[12:01] <BackPacker> vinnybinny: OK, the command to do that would be: sudo rsync -avzulHKxq /data /backup
[12:01] <jrib> zOap: wherever you want.  What do you mean exactly?
[12:01] <Jowi> Tonren, that is strange. do you have a software firewall activated in linux?
[12:01] <i|D> ok got config
[12:01] <i|D> thx
[12:01] <frederific> Tonren: It sounds to me like the library's proxy is trying to run an activeX control or suchlike that is windows-only. I could be totally wrong though...
[12:01] <Tonren> Jowi: Not that I know of.
[12:01] <aoirthoir> Tonren: not much..came in to see if anyone knows how to get GRub to recognize an OS on another hard drive..not just another partition
[12:01] <purplemunkz> I am having a problem being able to access the internet on a fresh ubuntu install.   I have verified that my Ethernet card (eth0) is UP and is configured correctly.    I can ping my gateway, and can being intenet domains such as yahoo and google but can not access anything when attempting to open a website in firefox.  anyone seen anything similar?
[12:01] <vinnybinny> BackPacker: it has some large multimedia files so i would like no compression and to just overwrite the previous backup
[12:01] <Tonren> frederific: It kind of seems that way.
[12:01] <BackPacker> vinnybinny: that just copies over the new/changed stuff. To sync the directories: sudo rsync -avzulHKxq --delete /data /backup
[12:01] <BackPacker> vinnybinny: OK, hold on...
[12:01] <maddash> purplemunkz: set your default network interface
[12:01] <Tonren> frederific: The really weird thing is that in Linux, once connected, I can't even get Gaim or XChat working - so it's not just a web browser thing.
[12:01] <purplemunkz> uhm, how?
[12:01] <frederific> tonren: bit of a long shot, but have you tried asking the library people?
[12:01] <maddash> purplemunkz: sudo network-manager
[12:02] <zOap> jrib, I have a user bin /home/user/bin. But the path is not loaded at startup. where do I put the path so that it's loaded each time I log in? it works in term, but not in gui...
[12:02] <i|D> 	from: 0.0.0.0/0   to: .   via: 10.1.1.1 port = 1080
[12:02] <jrib> zOap: use ~/.gnomerc if you are using gnome
[12:02] <Tonren> frederific: I just can't deal with the "Linux...?" blank look right now.
[12:02] <BackPacker> vinnybinny: if there are large multimedia files, you'd want rsync to compress them while copying. They won't end up compressed in the backup directory
[12:02] <zOap> jrib, no I'm use xfce
[12:02] <odi3> purple: i use "iwlist scan" to find available networks then change essid to the network i would like to use
[12:02] <Jowi> Tonren, frederific might be right. it makes no sence that your connection is lost like that. can you verify that it disconnects or that the connection stays up but you can not browse?
[12:02] <frederific> tonren: Yeah, I figured it'd be like that
[12:02] <purplemunkz> ok, I'll give it a try...   so even if eth0 isn't currently set as the default, would I still be able to ping external hosts and ip's using the eth0 interface?
[12:02] <BackPacker> vinnybinny: but if you don't want rsync to compress them on the way, leave out the 'z' parameter
[12:03] <purplemunkz> because i can
[12:03] <frederific> tonren: have you tried turning off your pop-up blocker?
[12:03] <kcinna> how can i burn avi files to a dvd?
[12:03] <kcinna> as video
[12:03] <maddash> purplemunkz: if what I said works, then probably...
[12:03] <i|D> http://nopaste.biz/?11360
[12:03] <Tonren> Jowi: I'm pretty sure that, once my external ping stops working, I can still ping the router (wherever it is).  And what really is strange is that it DOES work!  For about 30 seconds.
[12:03] <i|D> i dont understand this config
[12:03] <vinnybinny> BackPacker: sounds good
[12:03] <h3xis> Tucky, okay i gotta head out but good luck. i'll be back later
[12:03] <Tonren> frederific: Funny you should ask that, because it did try to launch a pop-up when I was in Linux.  But when I booted into Windows and connected, it's been working with no popup.
[12:03] <kane77> h3xis, http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/1197/untitledlh3.jpg here's the picture... it's abit of a mess...
[12:03] <Tonren> frederific: In Windows, I connected to AIM before I even opened my browser.
[12:04] <Moon_Rabbits> Can I run speakers on Ubuntu if I don't have a soundcard? I mean, if the sound card is integrated into the motherboard? Because ever since I installed ubuntu my computer has been using it's built in speaker instead.
[12:04] <kcinna> !xvid
[12:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:04] <BackPacker> vinnybinny: if you decide you want to back a directory up to another machine on the lan, just add its name before the directory: sudo rsync -avzulHKxq --delete /data pc:/backup
[12:04] <h3xis> kane77, alright i'll save it and check it out when i get back. im heading out, but i
[12:04] <maddash> purplemunkz: does ffox work now?
[12:04] <Jowi> Tonren, check if the connection is still there after the 30 secs. if it is still up, it's not your wireless connection you should investigate but how the connection is verified from the Access Point or Proxy.
[12:04] <h3xis> kane77, i will be back later ;)
[12:04] <purplemunkz> ugh.. I'm in windows atm.  I got to reboot into ubuntu to give it a shot..
[12:04] <kane77> h3xis, ok
[12:04] <castoff> i|D do you know the socks server IP and the version either 4 or 5?
[12:04] <BackPacker> vinnybinny: the advantage of using rsync is that it only copies over the bits that have changed
[12:04] <i|D> yes
[12:04] <frederific> tonren: it could be that it opens one, then immediatle closes it, juse to make sure its a real PC
[12:04] <Tonren> Jowi: I don't really understand what you mean.  How do I verify if the connection is "still there"?  I don't know enough about networking to investigate proxies and stuff.
[12:05] <i|D> i have ip port and its socks 5
[12:05] <Jowi> Tonren, simply ping the gateway
[12:05] <Tucky> h3xis that is set up now
[12:05] <Tonren> Jowi: Like I said - I'm pretty sure I was able to ping the gateway after the rest of my services stopped functioning.
[12:05] <kane77> h3xis, can you just look at it and tell me if it's possible?
[12:05] <castoff> i|D replace 10.1.1.1 with ip and 1080 with port
[12:05] <i|D> and then i have to remove all this # ?
[12:05] <Tonren> frederific: I don't think so.  Like I said - the first thing I did in Windows was open Gaim, not Firefox or even IE.
[12:05] <frederific> tonren: In that case, its not a conneciton problem
[12:05] <odi3> problem: laptop connects to network folders for about 30 seconds, then says not responding. --> //diskstation/files /diskstation/files smbfs	rw,uid=odi3,gid=odi3,username=admin,password=dogman 0 0 <-- my fstab entry, anyone know how to fix?
[12:05] <Jowi> Tonren, I suspect frederific is right
[12:06] <castoff> i|D need a username/password?
[12:06] <purplemunkz> it really doesn't make any sense though,  as I can ping yahoo.com and google.com and get responses from those domain names.     but I simply can't access them using ffox, or even the apt-get utility isn't working as well...  though i can succesfully ping the hostname that apt-get is trying to connect to in order to pull packages.
[12:06] <almir> a nice media player for my mp3 collection?
[12:06] <i|D> no
[12:06] <frederific> tonren: hmm, dont know then, sorry
[12:06] <i|D> not needed
[12:06] <jrib> !player | almir
[12:06] <Tonren> frederific: Jowi: I think you guys are right - it's probably something that the proxy is trying to verify that Linux doesn't have.
[12:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about player - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:06] <castoff> i|D yep remove the # on the entries you use
[12:06] <i|D> okay
[12:06] <kane77> almir, listen if you use gnome, amarok for kde
[12:06] <i|D> i have to remove everywhere #
[12:06] <BackPacker> almir: amarok is very good
[12:06] <i|D> i dont know what to use there;D
[12:06] <almir> using gnome
[12:06] <castoff> i|D and then copy the configuration to /etc
[12:07] <jrib> zOap: maybe .xsession then, though I'm note sure atm
[12:07] <JosefK> kane77: I throw caution to the wind and use amarok in Gnome too ^^
[12:07] <Jowi> Tonren, if you're using firefox now check it's settings or try with another browser to see if that works any better
[12:07] <Batmanuel> hey guys, I need some help with flash sound. I read the faq, the restricted formats page AND the flash troubleshooting page and it only managed to completely break my flash support.
[12:07] <i|D> yes:))
[12:07] <LameBMX> amarok just rocks ...
[12:07] <castoff> i|D lets go to private messages
[12:07] <LameBMX> gnome and im usin it lol
[12:07] <zOap> jrib, .xession doesnt exist, I'll have a look around. thanks :)
[12:07] <vinnybinny> BackPacker: cool! so the first one was just to get the files there. and then rsync -avzulHKxq --delete /data /backup <--- is to only update the changed files
[12:07] <Tucky> h3xis you their?
[12:07] <Batmanuel> right now I cant even load flash videos... what should I do?
[12:07] <jrib> zOap: you create it
[12:07] <almir> ok
[12:07] <kane77> JosefK, I think amarok is a bit more mature... but I like to use gnome stuff for gnome :D
[12:08] <Toran> I'm having problems with mounting my iPod
[12:08] <jrib> zOap: or .xprofile
[12:08] <Tonren> Jowi: Well, Firefox works fine in Windows.  I'm sure other browsers wouldn't have any luck in Linux anyway.  Like I said - NOTHING worked, not even Gaim or XChat.
[12:08] <LameBMX> h3xis, did tirus ever show back up
[12:08] <odi3> batmanuel: i used automatix2 to install my flash support i think
[12:08] <frederific> Toran: What happens when you plug it in?
[12:08] <zOap> jrib, ok, thanks
[12:08] <Music_Shuffle> !automatix
[12:08] <Music_Shuffle> :P
[12:08] <Batmanuel> I'll give it a try...
[12:08] <Toran> Whenever I've just rebooted my computer it works fine, but after a while amarok no longer automounts it. Dmesg shows a lot of buffer i/o errors
[12:08] <purplemunkz> hmm something else that I did notice a little while ago, was that the eth0 interface (integrated on my mobo) is displaying all F's in the h/w address field in the ifconfig report..  is that common?
[12:08] <Jowi> Tonren, might be a cookie that keeps the connection up, that's why i suggested it
[12:08] <BackPacker> vinnybinny: no, they both update the changed files, but the one with --delete also deletes anything in the backup directory that doesn't exist in the source directory, i.e. anything that's been deleted from the source dir since the last backup. In other words, it syncs the two dirs
[12:09] <FaT32> Can anyone help please? I have a problem. I used command prompt to change my xorg.conf due to problems... After that I finally got Gnome... So, how to continue my installation from that Live CD?
[12:09] <frederific> Toran: are you in KDE or gnome?
[12:09] <Toran> fluxbox
[12:09] <BackPacker> vinnybinny: If you ever want to do this kind of thing manually, check out 'unison'
[12:09] <BackPacker> vinnybinny: I mean, in a GUI
[12:09] <Jowi> FaT32, click on "install" icon on the gnome desktop
[12:09] <Friggin> 'evening
[12:10] <Tonren> Jowi: Nope...Internet Explorer opened without a hitch.  I didn't think that was the case.  Like I've been saying - Gaim and Xchat were also affected.  How could a cookie mess with non-browser apps?
[12:10] <kane77> I got stuck somewhere... I want to create a link (or whatever it is) to firefox... how do I do this... i untarred it to /opt/firefox... when I run firefox from command line (/opt/firefox/firefox) it runs well, but I created a file called firefox in /usr/bin/ with contents /opt/firefox/firefox and thought that would run firefox, but it just runs MANY instances of sh or bash... :(
[12:10] <BackPacker> Friggin: what makes you think it's evening? :-)
[12:10] <Friggin> well it s here ;)
[12:10] <BackPacker> Friggin: exactly! :-)
[12:10] <odi3> purplemunkz: when u tried "iwlist scan" in terminal window, were the local wireless networks displayed?
[12:10] <Tonren> Jowi: frederific: Actually... it says here that the library's wi-fi is unfiltered.  That must mean it's not a proxy; there's something up with the router itself.  I wonder what the hell is going on...
[12:10] <Tucky> h3xis you their?????????
[12:10] <BackPacker> Friggin: it's 23:10 here...
[12:10] <vinnybinny> BackPacker: again thanks :)
[12:10] <Friggin> I'm trying to get my wlan to work, but no luck so far
[12:10] <Jowi> Tonren, you mentioned that you have to click on something on a web-page to connect, true or false?
[12:10] <Toran> BackPacker: that counts
[12:11] <BackPacker> vinnybinny: you're very welcome
[12:11] <kane77> Tucky, I thouht he had to go somewhere...
[12:11] <Tonren> Jowi: True!
[12:11] <Jowi> Tonren, I rest my case :)
[12:11] <BackPacker> Toran: You have some long evenings...  :-)
[12:11] <frederific> Tonren: That is very very very very odd indeed
[12:11] <kane77> BackPacker, it's 00:11 here
[12:11] <castoff> kane77 look at the ln -s command
[12:11] <FaT32> Jowi: I only have Ubuntu 6.10 CD icon on desktop...
[12:11] <BackPacker> kane77: Evening kane77
[12:11] <n2diy> FaT32, what makes you think your install is incomplete?
[12:11] <Tonren> Jowi: But what you're suggesting seems impossible.  How could a browser cookie, or lack thereof, PREVENT Gaim and XChat and even PING from working?
[12:11] <noiesmo> kane77,  you need to do " sudo ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox" that will create a symbolick link
[12:11] <Tonren> Jowi: The ping command doesn't care about browser cookies.
[12:12] <odi3> problem: laptop connects to network folders for about 30 seconds, then says not responding. --> //diskstation/files /diskstation/files smbfs	rw,uid=odi3,gid=odi3,username=admin,password=dogman 0 0 <-- my fstab entry, anyone know how to fix?
[12:12] <kane77> castoff, what does plain ln do? damn... i think that was wrong...
[12:12] <purplemunkz> hmm..   I do have a wireless card installed in the pc, but I'm not trying to use it.   I'm trying to use the integrated ethernet adapter..   I haven't configured my wireless card yet, because it's using the stupid broadcom chip, and I need to get the system connected to the intenet first so I can get the broadcom fw ripper tool...
[12:12] <Jowi> Tonren, true, but you said you could ping the gateway after that 30 secs. I just trust what you tell me.
[12:12] <kane77> castoff, (I mean without -s)
[12:12] <Tucky> kane do you know when hes gettin back?
[12:12] <Friggin> I'm with 6.06, updated, networkmanager installed and working, but no luck with wlan
[12:12] <castoff> kane77 look at noiesmo answer
[12:12] <timmae> !flash
[12:12] <aoirthoir> ubuntu is for girls
[12:12] <Tucky> cause he was gonna help me wwith my problem
[12:12] <i|D> :p
[12:12] <adaptr> Tonren: most timeouts are associated with DNS trouble
[12:12] <frederific> aoirthoir: and boys!
[12:13] <FaT32> n2diy: because I didn't get any installation screens like partition select, etc.
[12:13] <Tonren> adaptr: I have a feeling it's a DNS issue, but I don't know how to go about resolving it.
[12:13] <castoff> kane77 it makes a hard link
[12:13] <aoirthoir> frederific: yes
[12:13] <odi3> purplemunkz: oooo sry, thought u were trying to install wireless
[12:13] <Friggin> as far as I can tell there's no way to solve this using the gui, right? One has to get one's hand dirty?
[12:13] <Tonren> adaptr: I've had DNS issues on this laptop before.  In fact, for some reason, my /etc/resolv.conf constantly reconfigures itself to have the line: "nameserver 127.0.0.1" !!!  Sometimes I have to manually remove it to make things work.
[12:13] <adaptr> Tonren: well, do you have access to another DNS server ? try you rISPs secondary as the first one instead, it sometimes helps
[12:13] <Acorp> can anybody help me with boot ? system won't load, i have only black screen
[12:13] <castoff> i|D you getting my pm's?
[12:13] <i|D> * Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[12:14] <i|D> lols im soory
[12:14] <kane77> noiesmo, yay!! that works :D
[12:14] <adaptr> Tonren: then you have avahi or named installed, or possible a caching server
[12:14] <n2diy> FaT32, what version are you playing with?
[12:14] <i|D> im register now
[12:14] <break_> would anybody care to help me out?
[12:14] <purplemunkz> yeh, I will be once I get this network issue resolved...   it's just not making any sense, that I can ping virtually any host name and get resonses from the ip's associated with those hosts.. but when I try to open a website in firefox, or try to connect using the apt-get tool.. bam, nothing at all..
[12:14] <break_> first of all, i dont know what to do with a run.gz files
[12:14] <castoff> i|d ok
[12:14] <Jowi> Tonren, adaptr: that's easy to check. open a browser and type in 216.239.59.99 (that's google) and see if it works
[12:14] <noiesmo> kane77, :)
[12:14] <kane77> noiesmo, thanx a lot pal!
[12:14] <break_> and when i try extracting it, it errors
[12:14] <FaT32> n2diy: Ubuntu 6.10 Live CD
[12:14] <LameBMX> !anyone | break_
[12:14] <adaptr> Jowi: truem he should check that - but form what he says about resolv.conf, it looks like DNS
[12:14] <Tonren> adaptr: Unfortunately, I don't remember the IP addresses of my ISP's DNS.  I'm at the library, anyway.
[12:14] <eXistenZ> Hello, how can I override ls to ls -la?
[12:14] <Tonren> Jowi: I'm going to do that when I boot back into Linux.
[12:14] <kane77> why there isnt firefox 2 in dapper??
[12:14] <Otacon22> Hi all, I need to use a phone connected by a modem card as a skype speaker, how can i do it?
[12:14] <castoff> i|D you flooded me...lol
[12:14] <adaptr> Tonren: you can always see them
[12:15] <n2diy> FaT32, can you boot without the CD?
[12:15] <Tonren> adaptr: How?
[12:15] <eXistenZ> I tried writing an alias but it still doesn't work =/
[12:15] <i|D> lol im sorry castoff
[12:15] <Jowi> Tonren, if that IP address works in a browser then it's a DNS problem, if not, something else
[12:15] <Slart> eXistenZ:  you could check the man page for ls.. I think it's in the .bashrc file
[12:15] <frederific> kane77: Because when dapper came out, firefox 2 wasnt out
[12:15] <noiesmo> kane77, because most people have moved to edgy i would say
[12:15] <adaptr> Tonren: well, cat /etc/resolv.conf for one
[12:15] <i|D> i only posted what i have written and u not seen castoff
[12:15] <Acorp> Hi, can anyone help me with boot ? when i am trying to boot into gnome, only black screen appears
[12:15] <i|D> im sorry:p
[12:15] <break_> shouldnt your computer/router automatically detect your DNS settings?
[12:15] <odi3> Purplemunkz:to activate my wire connection, i just went to administration->networking-> then clicked on wired connection
[12:15] <Tonren> adaptr: When I do that, I only have 2 lines: nameserver 127.0.0.1 and search (hostname corresponding to my current network)
[12:15] <adaptr> Tonren: if it hasn't screwed that up - but a static (i.e. wired) install really shouldn't mess with that
[12:15] <break_> if you're behind a router, just set your DNS server to the IP address of your router?
[12:15] <FaT32> n2diy: I have Win 98 :) on my drive C I really want Ubuntu
[12:15] <kane77> eXistenZ, alias "ls"="ls -la"
[12:15] <n2diy> eXistenZ: did you log out, and back in?
[12:15] <castoff> i|D  hang on a sec
[12:15] <adaptr> !avahi | tonren
[12:15] <i|D> okie sure:)
[12:16] <eXistenZ> n2diy, ja
[12:16] <break_> anyway
[12:16] <kane77> eXistenZ, but its gone after restart
[12:16] <Tonren> break_: There's been something odd going on with my laptop's DNS.
[12:16] <Jowi> Acorp, does this happen if you create a new user and log in with that one as well?
[12:16] <break_> seriously, i want to install a .run.gz
[12:16] <odi3> purplemunkz: does it say dhcp then inside says enable this connection and auto configuration?
[12:16] <Tonren> !avahi > me
[12:16] <Tonren> ...
[12:16] <break_> and i dont have any idea what to do with it
[12:16] <Tonren> !avahi
[12:16] <adaptr> ubotu is broken !
[12:16] <Slart> break_: fir gunzip it
[12:16] <n2diy> FaT32, hmmm, reboot, and try the install again?
[12:16] <Tonren> Ubotu is dead!
[12:16] <adaptr> !ubotu
[12:16] <kane77> frederific, noiesmo and is it going to be backported?
[12:16] <break_> i tried gunzipping it
[12:16] <Slart> break_: then do a "sh thefilename.run"
[12:16] <break_> and it errored
[12:16] <frederific> !es
[12:16] <Jowi> ubotu quit half an hour ago
[12:16] <break_> it errors
[12:17] <noiesmo> kane77, not sure :(
[12:17] <Moon_Rabbits> I have two questions I'd like some help with, maybe? :}
[12:17] <castoff> i|D you get my pm?
[12:17] <i|D> yes
[12:17] <Acorp> Jowi: it has happen, when i tryied install from CD, it happens, when i installed from alternate CD and now trying to boot from HDD
[12:17] <Jowi> Moon_Rabbits, ask your questions and be precise
[12:17] <castoff> ok i'll send you what you need then
[12:17] <kane77> noiesmo, anyway, how can you backport a package?
[12:17] <Dimensions> Hiya ... i have two usb Wlan adopters ... how do i install them when i do lsusb one says  0ace:1215 ZyDAS other one says 18e8:6201  i dont know their brands etc ... i have searched google alot but oculdn't find any solution to it
[12:17] <Slart> break_: then I think you're... in a bad place =)... try downloading the file again? check it with "file filename" to see that it really is a zipped file
[12:17] <Tonren> frederific: Jowi: adaptr: I'm going to boot back into Linux and do some debugging.  If I can see Google after the 30 seconds, I'll know it's DNS.  I'm also gonna sudo aptitude remove avahi named.
[12:17] <odi3> purplemunkz: and is the green light on, where the ethernet cable plugs into the laptop?
[12:17] <purplemunkz> yeh, i did that already, lol.  still nothing..    it just doesn't make any sense at all..   I mean, from everything I am seeing, DNS resolution is working fine, and I can ping my gateway...    but, come to think of it I can't even access my wireless gateway's web page using ffox in ubuntu, although I can hit it fine in windows...   I'm using STATIC ip configuration instead of DHCP.  I've got the ip config set correcty (including dn
[12:17] <JiggleButt> \/\/00+!
[12:17] <JiggleButt> JiggleButt in da house!
[12:17] <JiggleButt> YaY
[12:17] <break_> ive redownloaded the 700mb file 3 times
[12:17] <JiggleButt> WoW
[12:18] <JiggleButt> Wee hee hee hee!
[12:18] <JiggleButt> Yeah!
[12:18] <JiggleButt> Woohoo!
[12:18] <JiggleButt> Yeppers!
[12:18] <break_> 70mb*
[12:18] <Slart> break_: it might just be broken at the source.. what is it you're trying to download?
[12:18] <kane77> JiggleButt, ehm...
[12:18] <break_> UT2004 demo
[12:18] <frederific> tonren: ok
[12:18] <break_> http://www.unrealtournament.com/ut2004/downloads.html
[12:18] <Slart> break_: got an url? I could try it too
[12:18] <BackPacker> JiggleButt: Pass that bottle over here... :-)
[12:18] <break_> beat ya to it :p
[12:18] <JiggleButt> Here ya go, buddy!
[12:18] <LameBMX> purplemunkz, does your router do the dhcp? and if so you may want to use it ... ive noticed letting things work that way keeps stuff from breaking
[12:18] <Moon_Rabbits> Firstly, my speakers are plugged directly into my motherboard, but Ubuntu doesn't seem to have detected them. When I try and play with the volume settings it says that no sound card is detected. Do I have to have a soundcard or does ubuntu support ones that are integrated into the motherboard?
[12:18] <Slart> break_:  =).. I'll get right on it.. I'll report back when done
[12:18] <Jowi> Acorp, so you get to the login screen at least?
[12:19] <Batmanuel> alright, I tried automatix2 and nothing. Still no flash support -_-
[12:19] <JiggleButt> Slart: May the force be with you!
[12:19] <break_> does that give me 20 minutes to run to the store Slart?
[12:19] <Batmanuel> little help here guys
[12:19] <JiggleButt> Yes?
[12:19] <frederific> kane77: have a look at <http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=324956>
[12:19] <FaT32> n2diy: I had a problem while installing... Got black screen with "sync" message... So, I manually changed xorg.conf (added VertRefresh) and after that - startx..... But I got _runned_ Ubuntu not installed
[12:19] <Slart> break_: sure.. I'll be right here
[12:19] <JiggleButt> Batmanuel, what is your Ubuntu problem?
[12:19] <LameBMX> break_, have you tried extracting it first
[12:19] <break_> haha, alright
[12:19] <break_> yes i've tried
[12:19] <Acorp> Jowi: no, only logo and progress bar appears, after that only black screen, without anything
[12:19] <purplemunkz> it does use DHCP, but I have 5 PC's connected to my router and 2 of them are servers, which i don't need pulling IP's via DHCP..   oh, and one of the PC's is my neighbor's PC (connecting to my wireless) and I don't feel like having to reconfigure all of their shiz...
[12:19] <Batmanuel> right now, I have no flash support
[12:19] <seanj> Batmanuel: add multiverse to your apt repositories and install flashplugin-nonfree
[12:19] <n2diy> Moon_Rabbits: You'll have to figure out what the chipset for sound is, on the mom board.
[12:20] <BackPacker> Moon_Rabbits: alsa and oss support integrated ac97 soundcards, don't know about esound
[12:20] <Batmanuel> seanj, trying that, hold on
[12:20] <Slart> break, you tried opening it with that archiver in gnome?
[12:20] <break_> what a nice neighbor you are purplemunkz
[12:20] <purplemunkz> haha yeah...
[12:20] <purplemunkz> she's hot.. what can I say :P
[12:20] <BackPacker> Moon_Rabbits: KDE supports alsa and oss, Gnome uses esound, I believe (dont use Gnome myself)
[12:20] <Acorp> Jowi: i am trying to solve it with some ppl on cz channel, so i left at this time for test something
[12:20] <n2diy> FaT32, hmmm, reboot, and try the install again?
[12:20] <pike_> thats not so bad im using circuit city ap right now..
[12:20] <break_> gunzip...
[12:21] <Slart> Gnome uses alsa too.. or esound.. or arts.. or bah.. there's just to many of them
[12:21] <seanj> gunzip file.run.gz ?
[12:21] <odi3> batmanuel, after installing automatix2, did you go run it, click on multimedia and have automatix2 install "Flash Player"?
[12:21] <break_> yep
[12:21] <seanj> then sh file.run
[12:21] <Jowi> Acorp, ok. you've got some framebuffer problem most likely. boot into recovery mode. type "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and select vesa as the video driver and go for the default options for the rest and then reboot and see if you still see nothing.
[12:21] <break_> it errors
[12:21] <seanj> break_: what's the error ?
[12:21] <break_> gunzip: UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run.gz: unexpected end of file
[12:21] <Moon_Rabbits> Alright, thanks BackPacker+n2diy
[12:21] <purplemunkz> ah, well I'm going to go bang my head on the wall some more ... wish me luck.
[12:21] <Dimensions> any one got solution for installing Wlan usb Adopters ? in ubuntu .... ???
[12:21] <BackPacker> Moon_Rabbits: If you open a console and enter 'lspci | grep -i audio' you  might see the card listed
[12:21] <seanj> break_: try renaming it to file.run
[12:21] <FaT32> n2diy: thanks, but I will get the same thing... :(
[12:21] <odi3> purplemunkz: gl:)
[12:21] <kane77> frederific, it's a notch harder as I run 64 bit version.. but thanx
[12:21] <purplemunkz> thanks
[12:21] <break_> ahh
[12:21] <seanj> break_: then do: sh file.run
[12:21] <break_> alright
[12:21] <Batmanuel> seanj, still not working.... what the hell
[12:22] <break_> bb in a minute
[12:22] <seanj> break_: if that doesn't work... their own local copy is corrupted
[12:22] <odi3> batmanuel, after installing automatix2, did you go run it, click on multimedia and have automatix2 install "Flash Player"?
[12:22] <frederific> ubotus back...
[12:22] <seanj> Batmanuel: :( did you restart mozilla/firefox
[12:22] <n2diy> FaT32,  ok, so you already tried that?
[12:22] <Batmanuel> ofcourse I did odi3
[12:22] <francalier> has anyone here used loobuntu?
[12:22] <castoff> i|D get all that?
[12:22] <Jowi> Acorp, either you have the wrong video driver or wrong monitor settings. "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" should fix that for you.
[12:22] <Batmanuel> yes, seanj, I did
[12:22] <odi3> kk
[12:22] <i|D> yes castoff
[12:22] <break_> UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run: UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run: cannot execute binary file
[12:22] <seanj> Batmanuel: in that case I have no idea what's wrong.. sorry :(
[12:22] <Jowi> Acorp, use the "vesa" driver to be safe
[12:22] <Slart> break_: do a md5 on the file.. just to see that we get the same file
[12:22] <castoff> i|D ok let me know
[12:22] <Jowi> brb
[12:23] <Moon_Rabbits> BackPacker: When I input 'lspci | grep -i audio' in the terminal, nothing seems to happen.
[12:23] <kuzmaster> !glgears
[12:23] <break_> tell me how and i will :x
[12:23] <i|D> yes i have got castoff
[12:23] <FaT32> n2diy: yes. I did whole process that I mentioned twice already...
[12:23] <perko> g'day!  is anyone here familiar with HAL?  I get a rather annoying error message each boot: "Failed to Initialize HAL!" .. as a result, USB does not automount.  I have read bug #24029; this is the closest i've found to my prob, but in my case dbus is running.  Any suggestions? I'm running Edgy 64bit (gnome)
[12:23] <n2diy> FaT32,  I've had trouble installing on drives with Win 98, can you low level format the drive?
[12:23] <Slart> break_: type "md5 myawsomelinuxgamefile.run.gz"
[12:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glgears - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:23] <break_> haha
[12:23] <castoff> i|D by the way the man page is man dante.conf
[12:23] <Batmanuel> urge to kill is rising.... I was only missing sound until your fancy faq broke everything. I'm gonna go uninstall everything
[12:23] <frederific> francalier: wow
[12:23] <BackPacker> Moon_Rabbits: OK, just do 'lspci' and look through the output. If it goes by too fast, do 'lspci | less' so you can page up and down, then press 'Q' to quit
[12:24] <break_> command not found?!
[12:24] <i|D> Thanks castoff
[12:24] <Slart> break_: oops, sorry.. md5sum
[12:24] <odi3> problem: laptop connects to network folders for about 30 seconds, then says not responding. --> //diskstation/files /diskstation/files smbfs	rw,uid=odi3,gid=odi3,username=admin,password=dogman 0 0 <-- my fstab entry, anyone know how to fix?
[12:24] <Moon_Rabbits> BackPacker: Okay, I used the lspci command, but what exactly am I looking for in the output?
[12:24] <Slart> I get ...     f72f55d1d9b5682408e36d8b0689e857  UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run.gz
[12:24] <break_> haha, alright here it is
[12:24] <break_> f72f55d1d9b5682408e36d8b0689e857  UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run.gz
[12:24] <Slart> looks the same..
[12:24] <BackPacker> Moon_Rabbits: Anything that says 'sound' or 'audio' or 'multimedia'
[12:24] <i|D> re
[12:24] <i|D> castoff i readed
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[12:25] <frederific> francalier: loobuntu looks great, how can I install it?
[12:25] <break_> yeah, its the same
[12:25] <break_> yours works?
[12:25] <castoff> i|D huh?
[12:25] <Moon_Rabbits> BackPacker: Nope, nothing there. Hold on a minute.
[12:25] <Slart> break_: same thing here.. someone made a mistake..
[12:25] <break_> ahh, its corrupt?
[12:25] <computrius> ive hit my snag again with linux
[12:25] <computrius> ive run out of problems to fix to get the install working correctly
[12:25] <computrius> im bored
[12:25] <computrius> lol
[12:26] <Jowi> computrius, install beryl with aiglx :)
[12:26] <computrius> already did :)
[12:26] <break_> Slart: so the file is corrupt from the source?
[12:26] <LameBMX> well computrius can you figure out how to make amorak hit the system bell in type with the music ...
[12:26] <Slart> break_: it would seem so... there's nothing on the forums about this? you can't be the first to download this
[12:27] <computrius> hehe
[12:27] <LameBMX> so desktop water will go to the music :)
[12:27] <odi3> computrius: u know how to mount NAS drives?
[12:27] <kuzmaster> can somone please tell me how to find out the frame rate that glxgears is running at?
[12:27] <Balsamic_Chicken> does anyone know how to set profile images for gaim? like the one picture that's displayed as u when ur in chat
[12:27] <n2diy> computrius: how do I change my keyboard layout while in terminal? :)
[12:27] <computrius> dont know what an NAS drive is, therefore probably dont have one
[12:27] <Valmarko> Could someone tell how to request the default configuration of my firewall. I would like to undo all the changes I made with guarddog
[12:27] <LameBMX> odi3 look up nfs
[12:27] <break_> i've been out of mountain dew for a couple hours now, i need more. so i'll be back later
[12:27] <bazsl> Newbie question: I am trying to run a program and I get errors of the form "error while loading shared libraries: libm.so.6: cannot open file: No such file or directory". I get the same message for libc.so.6, librt.so.1 and others. What do I need to install to correct this problem?
[12:27] <jrib> !glxgears | kuzmaster
[12:27] <ubotu> kuzmaster: To display the FPS in glxgears, run 'glxgears -printfps' in a terminal.
[12:27] <phrozen77_> hi all - i've got some problems installing perl-modules using the perl MCPAN shell for modules that are NOT available with apt-get.. seemingly they all failing to make... anyone has an idea what might be wrong?
[12:27] <Jowi> computrius, configure .xsession to start only beryl and gdesklets (you should have NO basic taskbars/docks since that is cheating)
[12:27] <kuzmaster> thanx
[12:27] <break_> when i get back, i'll bring up my other problem. the main reason why i want to try the UT2004 demo
[12:27] <BackPacker> Valmarko: you can use 'iptables -F' but it might not do what you think...
[12:28] <computrius> maybe I could code up a bbs software
[12:28] <computrius> that uses telnet
[12:28] <Slart> break_: another one, http://utforums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=559854
[12:28] <break_> i asked the guys in the wine channel, but i think its a driver problem
[12:28] <red_> anybody here a samba guru?
[12:28] <BackPacker> Valmarko: You might need to set up specific rules to allow everything in our out, depending on what you think the 'default configuation' should be
[12:28] <Slart> break_: ah.. well.. go get those drinks then
[12:29] <Valmarko> ummm... there's no simple way
[12:29] <BackPacker> Valmarko: Hold on a minute...
[12:29] <break_> lets hope they have a 2 liter bottle for under $2
[12:29] <computrius> I never have made any real app for linux
[12:29] <break_> :(
[12:29] <Batmanuel> alright, I have flash working. I'm still missing sound though.
[12:29] <Valmarko> ok
[12:29] <Jowi> computrius, should look like this when you're done: http://burninghands.eu/pics/Screenshot.png
[12:29] <break_> i hate living so close to washington dc, prices for everything are higher
[12:29] <phrozen77_> hi all - i've got some problems installing perl-modules using the perl MCPAN shell for modules that are NOT available with apt-get.. seemingly they all failing to make... anyone has an idea what might be wrong?
[12:29] <Batmanuel> I have a hunch its trying to use the OSS mixer but my card uses the ALSA mixer... how do I tell firefox that?
[12:30] <computrius> thats pretty sweet looking :)
[12:30] <jbroome> Jowi: nice scrn schot
[12:30] <red_> anybody here a samba guru? have some questions
[12:30] <jbroome> err, shot
[12:30] <odi3> lamebmx:I have the drives mounted on startup, but after about 30 seconds of use they stop working.....
[12:30] <computrius> I will take that challenge, as I want my desktop to look like that :)
[12:30] <Batmanuel> (vlc media player always gets it wrong too and I have to configure it so it uses the right sound card (I have 2))
[12:31] <Moon_Rabbits> BackPacker: On my mobo I see what appears to be my sound chipset. It says "ESS: AudioDrive", is this of any help to solving my problem?
[12:31] <Jowi> jbroome, luckily Beryl make it possible. don't need anything else :)
[12:31] <computrius> where did you get the dock?
[12:31] <Tonren> adaptr: Jowi: It was a DNS thing.  I manually set my DNS in /etc/resolv.conf to the IP address of the gateway, and it's working fine now.
[12:31] <Batmanuel> nobody? come on
[12:31] <BackPacker> Valmarko: Here's a 4-line script to take the firewall out (the | indicates the end of each line): #!/bin/bash | iptables-P INPUT ACCEPT | iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT | iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT
[12:31] <FaT32> n2diy: Ok. I probably found the way. System > Administration > Install... I already got first "installation screen"
[12:31] <LameBMX> computrius, what kinda vid card and how is your aiglx experience ... i went to glx cuz water and everything else works a lot better .. none of the video probs n junk
[12:31] <Pie-rate> if i install kubuntu-desktop, i'll get to chose between gnome and kde when i log in right?
[12:31] <odi3> lamebmx: now they only time out, if i restart my comp i can use them for about 30 seconds, then they time out again
[12:31] <Jowi> Tonren, I'm happy it was that simple :)
[12:31] <jrib> Pie-rate: yes
[12:31] <LameBMX> it totem and it have to be constantly resized to see the video lol
[12:31] <computrius> I installed beryl via ubuntu repositories
[12:31] <Tonren> adaptr: Jowi: However, the packages "avahi" and "named" aren't installed, but my resolv.conf is still setting itself as nameserver 127.0.0.1.  How do I stop this and tell it to get the nameserver automatically from the wifi router?
[12:31] <jakub_> how can i edit a PDF? are there any tools on gentoo that allow for that? i tried apt-cache search pdf | grep -i write
[12:32] <jrib> computrius: beryl isn't in ubuntu repositories
[12:32] <n2diy> FaT32,  Cool, good luck.
[12:32] <Valmarko> tanks BackPacker
[12:32] <Tonren> adaptr: Jowi: It'd be an awful hassle to do this every time I want to use the web.
[12:32] <computrius> well.. not ubuntu ones.. I had to add a 3rd party repo
[12:32] <BackPacker> Moon_Rabbits: I recognise the soundcard. I used to have one of those a long time ago. Don't know if Ubuntu can use it or not. Try entering "ESS: Audiodrive Linux" in http://www.google.com/linux and see what comes up
[12:32] <Tonren> jakub_: Can't The GIMP?  I know Photoshop ca.
[12:32] <Tonren> *can
[12:32] <BackPacker> Valmarko: You're welcome
[12:32] <LameBMX> odi3 i dont know i was just tryin to help point you in the right direction
[12:32] <BackPacker> jakub_: You can load PDF files into OpenOffice
[12:32] <jrib> jakub_: you're in #ubuntu, but the GIMP can
[12:33] <Jowi> Tonren, in network-admin create a "location" with a different DNS and switch the locations when you need
[12:33] <odi3> lamebmx: ah ok, thanks anyway:)
[12:33] <Cheese> What's OpenOffice?
[12:33] <Tonren> Jowi: What's "network-admin"?
[12:33] <BackPacker> !openoffice > Cheese
[12:33] <jakub_> BackPacker: how? i tried with openoffice
[12:33] <computrius> http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/
[12:33] <odi3> cheese: openoffice = microsoft office for linux
[12:33] <Slart> !openoffice
[12:33] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[12:33] <LameBMX> np .. 2x250GB drives for stoarge on this box :/ ... not much need for nas
[12:33] <Tonren> Jowi: Also, if it automatically gets the DNS from the router, I shouldn't have to manually set anything.
[12:33] <Slart> !openoffice | Cheese
[12:33] <ubotu> Cheese: a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[12:33] <Jowi> Tonren, "sudo network-admin" will let you know :)
[12:33] <Pie-rate> !spam
[12:33] <Valmarko> ummm... but... isnt it dangerous? I'm allowing everything. Firewall is pratically OFF (??)
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:33] <bulmer> jakub_ you may try pdf2ps > resultfile.txt  and then edit the resulting text file
[12:33] <BackPacker> jakub_: Hold on while I fire up OO and check...
[12:34] <Tonren> Jowi: Oh, jesus.  This thing.  This thing NEVER works, dude.
[12:34] <computrius> as a matter of fact I have beryl turned off right now because for some reason java apps wont draw their widgets with beryl on
[12:34] <bulmer> Valmarko: default ubuntu has no firewall activated
[12:34] <perko> !hal
[12:34] <ubotu> hal: Hardware Abstraction Layer. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.7.1-0ubuntu17 (edgy), package size 347 kB, installed size 1112 kB
[12:34] <perko> :/
[12:34] <Valmarko> Ohhh... ok :)
[12:34] <Valmarko> tanks
[12:34] <Jowi> Tonren, the automatic DNS is from /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and if you want to set it manyally you will have to do that each time. network-admin will let you have different profiles for different connections so that's *one* way of solving it
[12:34] <perko> anyone ever had/solved the "HAL failed to initialize!" error?
[12:34] <Tonren> Jowi: adaptr: Also, "ifconfig" shows the *broadcast* but not the *gateway*.  How do you view the gateway IP address?
[12:35] <mnoir> jrib: what version of the gimp can edit pdfs??
[12:35] <apodictus> @anyone: just installed a fresh unbuntu 6.10 started Totem and tried playing mp3/mpg files but it's complaining about not having the right codecs. If it cant play those what can it play?
[12:35] <|Sora|> how do i make the window tabs trangparent?
[12:35] <ikonia> Tonren: netstat -rn
[12:35] <Tonren> Jowi: I"m convinced that there's something set somewhere preventing networking from automatically setting the DNS based on each router it connects to via DHCP.
[12:35] <adaptr> Tonren: route -n
[12:35] <ikonia> |Sora|: you need to used an advanced window manager settings
[12:36] <|Sora|> where is that found ikaya_
[12:36] <computrius> LameBMX: geforce 7900 GT
[12:36] <jrib> mnoir: all I've tried since dapper
[12:36] <adaptr> Tonren: but start by just running dhclient -v -l
[12:36] <|Sora|> ikonia
[12:36] <Slart> mnoir: gimp? edit pdfs?? since when?
[12:36] <ikonia> yes
[12:36] <Dimensions> Hiya ... i have Two usb Wlan adopter ... thers no brand for it ... how do i install it and configure it ??? lsusb gives me this info 0ace:1215 ZyDAS and 18e8:6201
[12:36] <BackPacker> jakub_: I was wrong, it isn't OpenOffice that can edit PDFs, it's KOffice
[12:36] <adaptr> !gimp | mnoir
[12:36] <bulmer> Tonren: per adaptr..those will tell you what the DHCP doles out to your client
[12:36] <ubotu> mnoir: An advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[12:36] <guru> does anyone here use a usb kvm switch?
[12:36] <Tonren> adaptr: My DHclient doesn't have a -v switch.
[12:36] <|Sora|> where is that found ikonia
[12:36] <mnoir> Slart: i agree - i'm askin him to prove it since i do not beleive it
[12:36] <adaptr> Tonren: well, then leave it off :)
[12:36] <jakub_> BackPacker: okay, i'll try with that, but i'm fairly certain i'll get the same issue
[12:36] <Tonren> adaptr: XD
[12:37] <ikonia> |Sora|: use a form of xgl with beryl
[12:37] <adaptr> Tonren: you do want the -l, or else it will start a second daemon
[12:37] <|Sora|> yikes
[12:37] <vinnybinny> BackPacker: quick question again.  to setup rsync to run every friday @ 7:45pm I would add this to /etc/cron.d/anacron       45 19 * * 5 sudo rsync -avzulHKxq --delete /home/samba /backup ?
[12:37] <jrib> mnoir: it just opens it as an image that you can add stuff too, it doesn't extract text into text layers for example
[12:37] <Jowi> good catch adaptr
[12:37] <adaptr> Tonren: and a third, and afourth.. I've doe it :)
[12:37] <mnoir> adaptr: thanks - i have been using the gimp for quite some time :)
[12:37] <|Sora|> there is no simpler way? ikonia
[12:37] <ikonia> no
[12:37] <Azabe> im trying to remotely log into my ubuntu server, what do i need to enable in order to login remotely?
[12:37] <Tonren> adaptr: man dhclient says that -l just causes it to "try only once".  I don't understand what you mean... I've used dhclient to connect before.
[12:37] <ikonia> Azabe: depends how you want to login
[12:37] <Azabe> ssh
[12:37] <ikonia> via a terminal or an X session
[12:37] <Tonren> Azabe: sudo aptitude install openssh-server
[12:37] <bulmer> Azabe: use sshd
[12:37] <javaJake> How do I mount something when it isn't in /etc/fstab?
[12:37] <ikonia> Azabe: just install openssh-server package
[12:37] <javaJake> Say, /dev/sdc1?
[12:37] <frederific> Azabe: do you want jsut a terminal, or a GUI?
[12:37] <BackPacker> BackPacker: Looks right to me, but I don't remember the parameters to cron offhand. You've checked with 'man crontab'?
[12:37] <ikonia> javaJake: mount command
[12:37] <mnoir> jrib: in other words it does not edit pdfs, it converts them to images...
[12:38] <adaptr> mnoir: long enough to grasp the conceptual difference between IMG editing and presentation ? :)
[12:38] <Azabe> just terminal
[12:38] <Slart> mnoir: well.. how about that.. it opened the pdf.. showed me the first page as an image.. wouldn't call it editing though
[12:38] <whileimhere> Im using a IC Power AMD Mobile Sempron laptop with a built in SD card reader. The SD card reader works fine under WinXP with no additional software but under no version of Linux have I gotten it to work. The SD cards work fine with the USB Scandisk peripheral I bought but I would prefer to get the internal SD card reader to work. I have been all over the web including Google and Yahoo and Ubuntu's websites. Can anyone help 
[12:38] <mnoir> adaptr: yes
[12:38] <javaJake> ikonia, no, because I do not have /dev/sdc1 in /etc/fstab
[12:38] <ikonia> so ?
[12:38] <BackPacker> vinnybinny: Sorry, that was meant to be addressed to you:
[12:38] <adaptr> Tonren: if you want to know, just read all of the man page.. else just trust me... you want -l
[12:38] <francalier> mount /dev/sdc1 /mount/point
[12:38] <ikonia> you don't need it in fstab
[12:38] <Jowi> Azabe, ssh is very basic and nice (text only), you can use vnc or freenx for a graphical login that works even in windows
[12:38] <javaJake> ikonia, mount /dev/sdc1 WILL give me an error
[12:38] <mnoir> Slart: I AGREE - SEE MY LAST MESSAGE TO YOU
[12:38] <adaptr> mnoir: and you're sure it can ?
[12:38] <javaJake> francalier, thanks
[12:38] <BackPacker> vinnybinny: You might want to add something like >~/backup.log
[12:38] <bulmer> whileimhere: maybe you can exchange your laptop to a new one? ..just kidding
[12:38] <ikonia> javaJake: thats because thats not the command
[12:38] <Tonren> adaptr: I really do want to know, but all the man page says is that -l causes it to "try once or exit with Error Code 2".
[12:38] <frederific> wmileimhere: sorry, most laptops built in card readers dont work under ubuntu
[12:38] <whileimhere> Bulmer its about a month old.
[12:39] <mnoir> adaptr: can what - edit PDFs - no - of course not
[12:39] <vinnybinny> BackPacker: np, only thing is how is the cron daemon able to sudo?
[12:39] <Jowi> !ssh | Azabe
[12:39] <ubotu> Azabe: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[12:39] <frederific> whileimhere: sorry, most laptops built in card readers dont work under ubuntu
[12:39] <computrius> anyone know if the tv wonder elite works with linux... ive read various places that said it did, but ive had no luck with it
[12:39] <Slart> mnoir: ah, didn't see that.. I concur.. importing pdf's is more correct
[12:39] <javaJake> OK, last Q, what does GNOME use to make that fancy mount/unmount status bar pop up?
[12:39] <BackPacker> vinnybinny: the cron daemon runs as root
[12:39] <ikonia> !hcl >Computrius
[12:39] <swami> what is the mono developer chanell?
[12:39] <ikonia> #mono
[12:39] <BackPacker> vinnybinny: it doesn't need to use 'su' or 'sudo'
[12:39] <swami> what's it's name
[12:39] <mnoir> Slart: especially when somebody asks how to edit PDFs :)
[12:39] <Azabe> Jowi  i know how to use putty
[12:39] <ikonia> #mono
[12:39] <mohshami> hey guys, whenever I try to watch a movie on xine, the screensaver isn't stopped like it's supposed to, any idea where I should look? I'm using beryl with xfce btw
[12:39] <vinnybinny> so i should remove the sudo
[12:39] <Azabe> i keep getting remote connection refused
[12:40] <Slart> mnoir: =).. well.. it did open it...
[12:40] <ikonia> Azabe: show me the command your using to ssh in
[12:40] <DanglyBits> are there any more current linux kernels available for ubuntu..more current then 2.6.17 ?
[12:40] <jrib> mnoir: well you could edit it :)  But yes, importing would be more correct
[12:40] <Azabe> ssh username@ip.address
[12:40] <mnoir> Slart: :)
[12:40] <ikonia> DanglyBits: no
[12:40] <javaJake> Does anyone know what GNOME does to mount stuff automagically? I'd like to do the same in a script.
[12:40] <adaptr> Tonren: since the man page is about 5 screens long, I somehow doubt that that's all it says...
[12:40] <ikonia> Azabe: what user name
[12:40] <Azabe> i know how to ssh :)
[12:40] <Azabe> ive been using linux for a while just new to ubuntu
[12:40] <adaptr> !automounter | javaJake
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automounter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <Tonren> adaptr: I'll take a closer look, but I think that's it, really.  Anyway, I gotta run for now.  Thanks for all your help, guys! A dios!
[12:40] <adaptr> bleh
[12:40] <ikonia> javaJake: gome just does a mount when it gets an event from dbus
[12:41] <javaJake> Oh...
[12:41] <javaJake> OK
[12:41] <mnoir> jrib: i am not trying to be a pita - words are sometimes very loosely used here and it will almost always cause issues...
[12:41] <frederific> Azabe: do you have a firewall installed?
[12:41] <javaJake> ikonia, Then I assume GNOME itself creates the window that pops up when you eject a disk?
[12:41] <ikonia> javaJake: yes
[12:41] <aoirthoir> ok I got grub workin
[12:41] <aoirthoir> brb
[12:41] <javaJake> ikonia, rats... I was hoping it was a program
[12:41] <ikonia> no
[12:42] <Azabe> um, is there some sort of a firewall that comes default wiht the ubuntu-server install?
[12:42] <mnoir> jrib: seems to me that 'how can i edit hippos?' means changing the file within the framework of the structure of the file.
[12:42] <ikonia> no
[12:42] <kram_> hello guys, i have a problem with ubuntu(latest stable) on my laptop, when i boot it up powernowd wasnt working, so i switched to powersave, unfortunaly at boot time only the governor performance gets loaded, but i want the govenor on demand
[12:42] <Azabe> if so im not aware of it
[12:42] <frederific> Azabe, nope, don't think so
[12:42] <ikonia> Azabe: no ther eisn't
[12:42] <ikonia> isn't
[12:42] <BackPacker> Azabe: the firewall is built in to the Linux kernel. It's called iptables
[12:42] <Slart> Azabe: iptables... or whatever it's called now.. but I don't think it's filtering anything
[12:42] <BackPacker> Azabe: also called netfilter
[12:42] <ikonia> no rules are installed by default
[12:42] <mnoir> kram_: latest stable is not good enough a definition any more now that we have LTS - 6.06 or 6.10?
[12:43] <BackPacker> Azabe: If you want to set up firewalling, you could try Firestarter or Guarddog
[12:43] <ikonia> BackPacker: he doesn't
[12:43] <adaptr> does anybody have a suggestion for an IRC client that does decent thread highlighting ? and I mean somehting that's actually usable, like: right-click on a nick and select Add to thread.. then all selected nicks wil be highlighted, or better yet, spliced off to a new window, so I can at least attempt to follow a conversation
[12:43] <ikonia> he's trying to use ssh
[12:43] <Jowi> Azabe, no, the firewall is open. but you might want to add "sshd: ALL" to  /etc/hosts.allow
[12:43] <kram_> mnoir: sry for that, i am using 6.10
[12:43] <ikonia> Jowi: what command did you do to install the ssh server
[12:43] <BackPacker> ikonia: OK, thanks, I wasn't following the conversation from the start...
[12:44] <ikonia> BackPacker: no problem, just didn't want you to waste your tme
[12:44] <ikonia> time
[12:44] <mnoir> kram_: sry not needed :)
[12:44] <Slart> adaptr: I've never seen one that does that.. but let me know if you find one.. I want it too
[12:44] <ikonia> Azabe: what command did you use to install ssh server
[12:44] <mnoir> adaptr: me too!
[12:44] <Jowi> ikonia, apt-get install openssh-server
[12:44] <ikonia> Jowi: sorry - that was the wrong person. I was meant to ask someone else
[12:44] <eXistenZ> what's the difference between fakeroot and sudo?
[12:44] <adaptr> Slart: if I could program I'd build one, because this has irritated me from the first ime I've used IRC.. it is sooo obvious
[12:45] <ikonia> eXistenZ: fakeroot is not a command, sudo is
[12:45] <Slart> adaptr: indeed.. I'm using gnome xchat at the moment.. it's ok.. but it could be better
[12:45] <ikonia> fake root is an environment
[12:45] <ikonia> sudo is a command use to assume root permissions
[12:45] <francalier> fakeroot is also a command.
[12:45] <ikonia> really ?
[12:45] <adaptr> slart, mnoir: there are probably a lot of hangovers from the days when IRC was all text and no GUI.. but I mean come ON! grow up people ! :)
[12:45] <ikonia> I've never used that
[12:45] <Jowi> Azabe, "connection refused" is probably a firewall issue *or* a blocked port.
[12:45] <francalier> the command you use to run something in the fakeroot environment.
[12:46] <ikonia> Azabe: what command did you do to install ssh server
[12:46] <Slart> adaptr: hmm.. I still think irc is pretty much all text =)
[12:46] <adaptr> Slart, mnoir: you know of an IRC client that's at least decently scriptable, like mIRC is ?
[12:46] <Slart> adaptr: I think xchat is among the better..
[12:46] <Pie-rate> mirc?
[12:46] <Azabe> ikonia: nevermind, my bad. didn't know that default install doesn't bother installing sshd :)
[12:46] <ikonia> exactly
[12:46] <Azabe> i was assuming that it was installed
[12:46] <eXistenZ> what is a chroot environment?
[12:46] <ikonia> thats why I was asking
[12:46] <ikonia> eXistenZ: read the wiki
[12:47] <Azabe> thanks :)
[12:47] <Slart> !irc
[12:47] <mnoir> fakeroot man page:  http://nixdoc.net/man-pages/Linux/man1/fakeroot.1.html
[12:47] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[12:47] <adaptr> Slart: true, in its essence, yes  - but one of the advantages of a GUI is that it lets me manipulate text outside of the restrictions associated with a text-only screen... a very, very simple and obvious concept that a lot of OSS programmers still fail to grasp
[12:47] <Pie-rate> gaim pwnz j00
[12:47] <sleepy475> isn't bitchx a good client?
[12:47] <ikonia> sleepy475: I like it
[12:47] <mnoir> Slart: better than konversation and why?
[12:47] <adaptr> sleepy475: is it scriptable ?
[12:47] <ikonia> yes
[12:47] <Slart> mnoir: because I'm running gnome? =).. I haven't tried konversation so I wouldn't know
[12:47] <adaptr> !chroot | eXistenZ
[12:47] <ubotu> eXistenZ: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[12:48] <adaptr> hmm.. not that useful as an explanation
[12:48] <sleepy475> I forget how to get it, whats the apt get command for it?
[12:48] <mnoir> Slart: oic - a purist :)
[12:48] <sleepy475> to install
[12:48] <sleepy475> been a long time
[12:48] <ikonia> apt-get install BitchX
[12:48] <sleepy475> thanks
[12:48] <adaptr> and to think people call Linux difficult... :)
[12:48] <BlueDevil> adaptr: bitchx is scriptable
[12:49] <Slart> mnoir: hehe.. nah.. I think I have half of kde installed already.. there are so many nice small programs for kde that doesn't exist for gnome
[12:49] <Pie-rate> Slart: like?
[12:49] <mnoir> ikonia: no caps in that command to install
[12:49] <adaptr> BlueDevil: in what ?
[12:49] <ikonia> mnoir: don't think it matters to be honest, but no
[12:49] <ikonia> I was typing it as its said
[12:49] <Slart> Pie-rate: hmm.. what was the last one.. a vnc client that supports scaling..
[12:49] <ikonia> my bad
[12:49] <mnoir> ikonia: i promise it does
[12:49] <ikonia> mnoir: I blelieve yo
[12:49] <ikonia> you
[12:50] <BlueDevil> adaptr: its own scripting language, i guess
[12:50] <mnoir> .me just installed bitchx.....
[12:50] <BlueDevil> adaptr: i believe you can write plugins in tcl
[12:50] <mnoir> uuh - you know what i meant :)
[12:50] <ikonia> we do
[12:50] <adaptr> Slart: I used to think so too. .until I started ripping all the superfluous KDE stuff out again, because I could not get shit to work anymore.. think artsd (iiiew!) the dcop framework, kdm, and a lot of smaller things that can generously break your system, or at least make it less stable
[12:50] <adaptr> BlueDevil: Tcl it is, then - thanks
[12:51] <Otacon22> I need to use the telephone as a speaker and microphone for skype , I have connected it by a modemd card, how i can do it?
[12:51] <Slart> adaptr: oh? I haven't had any problems yet.. perhaps I'm just lucky.. I think i have artsd installed.. but it just sits there.. =)
[12:51] <jamesbrose> How can I completely format a old harddisk?
[12:52] <ikonia> jamesbrose: partition it and put a new file system on it
[12:52] <ikonia> or dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/$harddisk bs=512k
[12:52] <mag_> how can I see all the computers conected in the la with console ?
[12:52] <adaptr> Slart: do you use JACK, or anything else that would like to share your audio ? small tip : KDE ...won't
[12:53] <kitche> ikonia: why not just use /dev/zero? instead of /dev/random
[12:53] <ikonia> mag_: you can't
[12:53] <ikonia> kitche: so it write data, zero is fine though
[12:53] <adaptr> mag_: define "see"
[12:53] <castoff> jamesbrose if you are looking for DoD wipe look at bcwipe
[12:53] <mag_> ikonia: hummmm... ok ! so how can I know the name of the computer and the name of network that the machine is connected ?
[12:53] <jamesbrose> castoff while trying to use fdisk i get this: k
 using fdisk: ext2fs_mkdir: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while creating root dir
[12:53] <Slart> adaptr: I've been fighting with getting sound to work so I think I have pretty much everything installed.. jackd, esd, arts.. probably something else too.. yes.. Alsa of course.. and OSS.. and OSS through ALSA..
[12:53] <ikonia> mag_: you can't
[12:54] <frederific> otacon22: I don't think you can to be honest, modem drivers in linux are decidedly dodgy. You'd be better off getting a USB telephone (google for "skype handset" or similar)
[12:54] <andy> slart, i'vve got same problem
[12:54] <mag_> ikonia: mm ok ! thank's
[12:54] <Slart> andy: ok, what kind of problem?
[12:54] <Slart> andy: sound?
[12:54] <andy> with my tecra8000
[12:54] <Otacon22> francalier, I am an hacker , I want to try, i know that is possibile( with windows I know howto do)
[12:54] <Slart> andy: tecra8000?? what is that?
[12:54] <andy> i tried te find out what is wrong, but i'm a newbie
[12:54] <castoff> jamesbrose not a clue...tried googling it?
[12:54] <mag_> adaptr: juts I want to know if I can use a command like net view on MS-dos but in linux of course !
[12:54] <ikonia> hacker - oooh my lord
[12:55] <andy> tecra800 = toshiba laptop
[12:55] <Slart> andy: hehe.. so am I.. ah.. laptops.. the behorned one lives in laptops.. =)
[12:55] <adaptr> mag_: sure, but you'll get the same kind of info back, i.e. for Windows networking
[12:55] <andy> grinn
[12:55] <adaptr> mag_: you probably need to have a local samba server running though
[12:55] <mag_> adaptr: ok... thank's ! :D
[12:55] <ikonia> adaptr: he would so its in the same work group  / domain
[12:55] <Slart> andy: no tutorials on the net?
[12:56] <andy> but i'm okay, sound is not nessasery
[12:56] <ikonia> but that will only show windows machines - not any other unix machines
[12:56] <Jowi> Slart, try "killall esd" and see if that solves it
[12:56] <mag_> adaptr: probably... this is my problem I'm tryn to make a data server with samba but I got some problems... can you help me ?
[12:56] <Slart> Jowi: solves what? my sound is working alright
[12:56] <andy> yeah, i'll look it up, tomorrow, it's 01:00 over here ( netherlands)
[12:56] <frederific> otacon22: I really don't think it is possible, almost all modem cards are "winmodems", almost all of the processing and what-not is done in a proprietry driver which is only available for windows
[12:56] <Jowi> Slart, oh I thought you said that you were fighting for sound to work :)
[12:57] <Slart> andy: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2004-November/009979.html
[12:57] <Slart> Jowi: hehe.. I have been fighting.. apparently I won =)
[12:57] <Otacon22> mmm
[12:57] <andy> thnx slart
[12:57] <Jowi> good for you Slart!
[12:57] <frederific> otacon22: if you do manage it though, I'd be very interested, I've often thought about doing it myself
[12:57] <Slart> andy: you're welcome.. hope you get it to work
[12:57] <Otacon22> frederific, I have in my hand now 8 modem cards, I can start to try
[12:58] <spinynorm> anyone know what a zillion "rx invalid nwid" errors means in iwconfig?
[12:58] <b_e_n_z> i have a core 2 duo laptop with windows xp home on it... is it okay to install the amd64 desktop iso and dual boot?
[12:58] <andy> :) yess, and if i can, i'll format my windows machine
[12:58] <ikonia> yes
[12:58] <frederific> otacon22: the very best of luck to you, I look forward to hearing how you get on
[12:58] <kram_> i need help with my powersaved pls, i wnat to load govenor ondemand at boot time, instead it always loads performace govenor, when ir estart the daemon later wit works, i am using ubuntu 6.10
[12:58] <shreeve> what's the "correct" way to see "what's been added" to a new package, such as the kernel? for example, how would I tell what's new between kernel 2.6.20-3 and 2.6.20-4???
[12:59] <ikonia> shreeve: change log
[12:59] <shreeve> ikonia, where do i *find* the changelog?
[01:00] <LaptopZZ> is there a way to get the text installer instead of using the new graphical one?
[01:00] <ikonia> for an ubuntu kernel - or kernels in general
[01:00] <shreeve> ikonia, for ubuntu
[01:00] <enyc> LaptopZZ: get the 'alternate' cd
[01:00] <frederific> LaptopZZ- you need to d/l the alternate CD
[01:00] <ikonia> not sure where they are on ubuntu
[01:00] <LaptopZZ> thanks...
[01:00] <Simka>  
[01:00] <shreeve> enyc, can the server cd also do a text install?
[01:00] <Simka>       ???
[01:00] <ewook> ?
[01:00] <ikonia> Simka: english channel
[01:00] <Nvening> hi, in terminal what does -a do??
[01:01] <SilentDis> 'lo :)
[01:01] <ikonia> Nvening: just typing -a ?
[01:01] <ewook> Nvening, -a on what?
[01:01] <frederific> Nvening, depends on the command you use it with
[01:01] <LaptopZZ> is there a way using the graphical installer to choose a different video driver?
[01:01] <Nvening> i see
[01:01] <LaptopZZ> I have a nvidia geforce 6800 and it refuses to work
[01:01] <LaptopZZ> it gives me bizarre lines
[01:01] <ewook> Simka, dude, english.
[01:01] <shreeve> anyone know where the ubuntu kernel changelog files are? (so I can tell the difference between kernels?)
[01:01] <frederific> for example, ls -a shows hidden files as well
[01:01] <ikonia> Simka: this is an english channel
[01:01] <enyc> shreeve: i think the server cd is normally text install but it may vary somewhere between dapper and edgg ... again not sure
[01:01] <Nvening> is there a page abput the -letter commands cause i would like to know what they mean lol
[01:02] <shreeve> enyc, ok
[01:02] <ikonia> Nvening: its different for EVERY command
[01:02] <Simka>     
[01:02] <Nvening> ok
[01:02] <ikonia> Simka: speak english
[01:02] <Simka> no speack english
[01:02] <SilentDis> I'm looking for a bit of software, and hoping someone here can point me in the right direction.  I need a way to send messages over a LAN without a server in place.  Basically, a LAN-only serverless IM proggie that's fairly easy to use.  Something like Winpopup on Windows would be ideal.
[01:02] <ewook> Simka, your lines ends up looking :     
[01:02] <Simka> no speak english
[01:02] <enyc> shreeve: for a true server you will likely want dapper LTS rather than edgy at this time...
[01:02] <frederific> Nvening, to find out what they do for a command, type man <COMMAND> and scroll down to options
[01:02] <ewook> Simka, well, you did just now.
[01:02] <mnoir> Simka: what language?
[01:02] <frederific> SilentDIS: Take a look at linpopup
[01:02] <Simka> ewook what ?
[01:02] <Simka> RUSSIAN
[01:02] <mnoir> !ru
[01:02] <SilentDis> frederific, thanks :)
[01:02] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[01:03] <ewook> Nvening, or command --help
[01:03] <enyc> SilentDis: I think there is or was a Linpopup program actually... i.e. speaks winpopup over the network
[01:03] <Nvening> thanks
[01:03] <ewook> mnoir, wow. that's a bunch of weird chars ;P
[01:03] <Simka> Sencs
[01:03] <Wakeskater> ubuntu keeps locking up on me for no reason. is there a certain log that can help me find out the problem?
[01:03] <mnoir> ewook: thank the bot...
[01:04] <frederific> !linpopup
[01:04] <ubotu> linpopup: X Window System port of Winpopup, running over Samba. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-8 (edgy), package size 74 kB, installed size 332 kB
[01:04] <RichW> Does my xorg.conf look ok?  Dri wont load and it has two device sections? http://pastebin.ca/308769
[01:04] <SilentDis> enyc, cool.  i was looking into gui versions of talk, but that just seemed WAY too complex :P
[01:04] <mnoir> ewook: i got perfectly good cyrillic message
[01:04] <shreeve> anyone out there using kvm virtualization with ubuntu?
[01:04] <frederific> !linpopup | silentdis
[01:04] <adaptr> mag_: what are you trying to do ? I've done samba
[01:04] <ewook> mnoir, oh, so thats what it was :)
[01:04] <SilentDis> frederific, thank you :)
[01:04] <enyc> SilentDis: well ytalk does work... on the same host... over the nnetwork can be problematic...
[01:04] <Slart> mnoir: so.. how was bitchx?
[01:04] <ikonia> RichW: your loading the dri module on ati
[01:04] <frederific> you're welcome
[01:04] <RichW> yeh?
[01:04] <ikonia> I don't believe you do that with ati
[01:04] <mnoir> Slart: i do not like it - i am gui spoiled....
[01:04] <RichW> ikonia: i have a 9800 pro
[01:05] <mag_> adaptr: I eanto to do a data server here in my job all the people use windows xp but I wnat to do a linux server...
[01:05] <ikonia> I don't believe you load the dri modules with the ati drivers
[01:05] <Slart> mnoir: hehe.. so the search for the perfect IRC-client goes on
[01:05] <Wakeskater> ubuntu keeps locking up on me for no reason. is there a certain log that can help me find out the problem?
[01:05] <mnoir> Slart: i guess i like konversation but i would like an easier way to set highlights
[01:05] <SilentDis> enyc, yeah, that's what I was finding.  way too much work for my neophyte house-mate to figure out.  I needed something very easy for them to figure out, and preferrably serverless (the server box has a mere 64mb ram, and it does the whole LAMP thing) :P
[01:05] <RichW> ikonia: nvidia only?
[01:05] <seanj> what about xchat-gnome ?
[01:05] <XXX> hey
[01:05] <rogue780> is there a virtual machine type program out there freely available besides bochs?
[01:05] <ikonia> RichW: no you don't load dri with nvidia - you let the driver do it
[01:05] <XXX> can anyone help me with something?
[01:06] <Slart> seanj: I'm using that at the mo ment... I think it's just a pretty shell around xchat
[01:06] <n2diy> Wakeskater: /var/log/messages
[01:06] <ikonia> XXX: you have to ask
[01:06] <Slart> !ask | XXX
[01:06] <ubotu> XXX: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:06] <BackPacker> Wakeskater: You could try booting with the Live CD, mounting your main drive in /mnt, then checking out /var/log/messages
[01:06] <seanj> Slart: yeah, I prefer the original interface
[01:06] <mnoir> !anyone | XXX
[01:06] <ubotu> XXX: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:06] <XXX> when i dl something from a ftp server, where does it go?
[01:06] <adaptr> mag_: any particular reason ? :) if you company has Windows server licenses (or the money for them) that would be much simpler
[01:06] <RichW> ikonia: shall i remove refrences to dri from xorg.conf?
[01:06] <ikonia> XXX: you tell it where to go
[01:06] <mnoir> XXX: current dir usually
[01:06] <BackPacker> Wakeskater: come to think of it, you probably don't need the Live CD. Just grep through the file for the time it went down
[01:06] <Slart> XXX: ehh.. probably to some default dir.. have you checked you home?
[01:06] <XXX> o ok ty
[01:06] <ikonia> RichW: I'd check the wiki for the requirements
[01:06] <seitan> i have to ati drivers install and working for my radeon 9600xt, how do i configure the tv out?
[01:07] <SilentDis> rogue780, there's Xen (linux on linux, sort of), qemu (very decent)
[01:07] <seanj> you're welcome XXX ;P
[01:07] <Wakeskater> i have messages open. what am i looking for?
[01:07] <LaptopZZ> thanks
[01:08] <n2diy> Wakeskater: What time was your last freeze?
[01:08] <Simka> what translate the server for on russian language?
[01:08] <mag_> adaptr: 3 months ago the windows server was disturbed and all the information disappear :(
[01:08] <SilentDis> !ru | simka
[01:08] <ubotu> simka:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[01:08] <n2diy> ! ru
[01:08] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[01:08] <rogue780> SilentDis, thanks
[01:08] <Simka> write in  please
[01:08] <Wakeskater> just a few minutes ago
[01:08] <andrew_> anyone: Is there a way to make sure direct rendering in OpenGL is working correctly?
[01:08] <SilentDis> rogue780, are you looking to do WinXP under Ubuntu?
[01:08] <mag_> adaptr:  that is the reason that now I bought a dell server and now I want to use linux !
[01:08] <Simka> write in privat please
[01:08] <ikonia> Simka: we don't speak russion
[01:08] <sjust1216> When I download a kernel from kernel.org and try to untar it it goes so far and then gives me an error that the file is corrupt
[01:08] <SilentDis> !ru > Simka
[01:09] <enyc> SilentDis: heh I used to have a few user accounts that would login and then run talk to enyc
[01:09] <n2diy> Simka, that was Russian, what language are you looking for ?
[01:09] <adaptr> mag_: what do you mean, "disturbed" ? any decent server (windows or otherwise) has redundant storage and a backup strategy
[01:09] <ikonia> sjust1216: why are you doing that ?
[01:09] <enyc> SilentDis: on the old 'junk' slackware box
[01:09] <Simka> 
[01:09] <Simka>     
[01:09] <BackPacker> Wakeskater: Look near the end of the file. See what was happening just before you rebooted. You did reboot, didn't you?
[01:09] <Simka>  
[01:09] <Simka>  
[01:09] <adaptr> mag_: the very first step towards data security is making daily backups of your data - you can do that in any OS
[01:09] <Simka>  
[01:09] <Simka> 
[01:09] <Simka> 
[01:09] <sjust1216> to see if I can compile my own kernel
[01:09] <Simka> 
[01:09] <Simka> 
[01:09] <Simka> 
[01:09] <Simka>    
[01:09] <rogue780> SilentDis, no, I'm looking to find a better way to test an OS I'm developing other than constantly rebooting
[01:09] <Slart> Simka: noone here speaks russian.. I think.. try the russian channel
[01:09] <ikonia> sjust1216: why - it will probably break your ubuntu bo
[01:09] <Simka>      ?
[01:09] <SilentDis> simka, this is the english-only support channel.  you said you spoke russian before, is that not correct?
[01:09] <ikonia> box
[01:10] <mnoir> Simka: is not understandable!
[01:10] <Wakeskater> I was just in firefox, browsing the web when it hung...
[01:10] <Wakeskater> but it happened while in vmware
[01:10] <SilentDis> rogue780, qemu is probably your best bet then
[01:10] <andrew_> anyone: Is there a way to make sure direct rendering in OpenGL is working correctly?
[01:10] <Wakeskater> it just locks up randomly, its happened quite a few times today
[01:10] <SilentDis> !qemu | rogue780
[01:10] <sjust1216> it might but I just want ot see
[01:10] <ubotu> rogue780: qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[01:10] <ikonia> andrew_: glxgears
[01:10] <sjust1216> to see
[01:10] <Jowi> andrew_, glxinfo | grep direct
[01:10] <mag_> adaptr: Yes I know but the windows server some day didn't work and all the information or almost all disappear
[01:10] <SilentDis> andrew_, glxinfo | grep direct
[01:10] <spinynorm> anyone else using a wg311t? i cant get mine to work in edgy
[01:10] <SilentDis> Jowi, you beat me to it :P
[01:10] <ikonia> sjust1216: then you should know how to untar a file if your trying to build a kernel
[01:10] <archie> how to view all disks path
[01:10] <andrew_> ikonia: yeah cedega runs glxgears, they show, but are messed up
[01:11] <Jowi> sorry for that SilentDis :)
[01:11] <SilentDis> archie, more info please.  could you describe what you're trying to do?
[01:11] <ikonia> andrew_: why ar eyou using cedega
[01:11] <SilentDis> Jowi, lol
[01:11] <mnoir> !elaborate | archie
[01:11] <ubotu> archie: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[01:11] <BackPacker> archie: Do you mean you want to see where all drives are mounted?
[01:11] <PORDO> i'm about to reinstall edgy eft, and i'm considering dumping my reiser partitions for something that might work better with edgy.  is this a particularly important issue?  any suggestions on which FS to use folks?
[01:11] <enyc> SilentDis: hrrm on edgy you can compile and install kqemu without then needing te recompile qemu so far as I can seee
[01:11] <sjust1216> yes tar -xvjf the file
[01:11] <andrew_> ikonia: just testing it out, but i would like to fix my opengl problem
[01:11] <ikonia> PORDO: personal choice for your needs
[01:11] <archie> ok i formated one of my disk to ext
[01:11] <ikonia> only you can asnwer that
[01:11] <riotkittie> anyone know offhand if there's any difference between the Dapper live disc dl, the Dapper alt install download and the uhh uhh Dapper CDs sent via shippit in terms of the software initially included?
[01:11] <Jowi> PORDO, ext3 is a favourite
[01:11] <jakob> Can someone help me with modprobe?
[01:11] <archie> i cant see it
[01:11] <PORDO> ikonia i'm just using it as a home desktop OS, doing some music production in Ardour and what not..
[01:11] <BackPacker> archie: you won't see it until you mount it
[01:11] <SilentDis> enyc, yeah, it's in the package list, nice and simple to use, there's even gui managers of VMs out there (saw one up at gnomefiles.org)
[01:11] <andrew_> ikonia: glxinfo | grep direct gives me a "yes"
[01:11] <Wakeskater> BackPacker, can i show you the end of my loge.maybe you can help me out
[01:12] <Wakeskater> *log
[01:12] <archie> i even cant see it in kdisk
[01:12] <pale_horse> has anyone done a good install of "feisty" ?
[01:12] <ikonia> PORDO: its personal taste, all have pro's and cons
[01:12] <SilentDis> andrew_, then you're set, direct rendering is working properly :)
[01:12] <Jowi> andrew_, so DRI is set up properly.
[01:12] <BackPacker> Wakeskater: Not sure I can, but stick it in a pastebin then others can see it too
[01:12] <Wakeskater> not sure what that is
[01:12] <PORDO> ikonia well, sure it's personal taste.  but i've described what my needs are, so doesn't that help narrow it down?  i don't need a web server setup for instance.
[01:12] <SilentDis> pale_horse, since feisty is... what, 4 months out still... I can't see it as being all that 'together' yet ;)
[01:12] <BackPacker> !pastebin > Wakeskater
[01:12] <mnoir> !feisty | pale_horse
[01:12] <ubotu> pale_horse: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[01:13] <oredownik> siema
[01:13] <andrew_> Then I wonder why cedega is lying to me
[01:13] <archie> when i try to mount it says no fstab or mstab entry or somethin like dat
[01:13] <ikonia> not really, eg: ext3 would be fine but performance suffers a little with journaling, xfs is faster but has no journaling, reiser is good but has other drawbacks
[01:13] <ikonia> all the file systems are aceptable
[01:13] <riotkittie> feisty is fine if you like to watch your OS break
[01:13] <pale_horse> SilentDis I got the iso but the installer fails
[01:13] <ikonia> its what you want in your trade off
[01:13] <SilentDis> andrew_, I can help a bit with cedega, i use it myself
[01:13] <riotkittie> dont use it as your main OS and you'll be fine
[01:13] <jakob> How do I monitor which modules gets added with modprobe?
[01:13] <pale_horse> I am used to breaking my OS :)
[01:13] <red_> need help setting up user and passwords in samba
[01:13] <BackPacker> Wakeskater: Go here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and paste the last dozen or so lines of your /var/log/messages
[01:13] <SilentDis> pale_horse, I bet it does!  lol.  it's still very alpha.  you can hit up the ubuntu+1 room, and see if they want your bug reports though :)
[01:13] <pale_horse> I was a gentoo / sourcemage user a long time
[01:13] <ikonia> red_: smbpasswd
[01:13] <daviey> PORDO, music production, have you looked into http://www.jokosher.org/
[01:14] <BackPacker> Wakeskater: then come back and give us the URL
[01:14] <n2diy> jakob: lsmod
[01:14] <enyc> ikonia: ext3 seems like a good choice with its rock_solid reliability and good performance in 'typical' situations so far as I can see
[01:14] <archie> i dont know what disk exactly to mount coz i cant see it name
[01:14] <archie> dont remember path
[01:14] <pale_horse> thanks SilentDis  I'll visit
[01:14] <SilentDis> pale_horse, check out the !feisty info bit :)
[01:14] <mnoir> archie: well what disk did you format?
[01:14] <jakob> n2diy is there a way to keep it running so I can see what gets added?
[01:14] <ikonia> enyc: I have no problem with ext3 - but for real time encoding you may benifit from a faster file system, depends what your doing
[01:14] <bulmer> archie: do you remember which other hd you have?
[01:14] <andy> bye bye ... AND DON'T GO BACK TO MICROSOFT !!!!
[01:14] <andy> grinn
[01:14] <archie> yes
[01:14] <kaoz> can someone tell me how to get cc1plus?
[01:14] <crimsun> kaoz: install build-essential
[01:14] <BackPacker> archie: It won't have a path until you mount it. It will have a device name in /dev - possibly something like /dev/hdc
[01:14] <enyc> ikonia: makes sense
[01:15] <n2diy> jakob: I don't know?
[01:15] <red_> join #/samba
[01:15] <SilentDis> !cclplus
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cclplus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:15] <kaoz> build essential is installed
[01:15] <SilentDis> kaoz, I know as much as ubotu knows on that one, sorry :(
[01:15] <n2diy> jakob: take a look at man lsmod.
[01:15] <Melissa|X> I'm using Edgy and I just got my usb headset working, with mic, but I can't figure out how to get it to work with teamspeak. it auto-mutes me when I join a server
[01:15] <Slart> kaoz: what is cc1plus?
[01:15] <archie> where can i see the name i gave i.e linux_disk
[01:15] <crimsun> kaoz: which Ubuntu release are you using?
[01:15] <kaoz> i am trying to get my nostromo n52 game pad to work with dapper
[01:15] <bulmer> archie: on which controller is it attached on?
[01:15] <jakob> n2diy do you know how I can prevent a module from being loaded?
[01:16] <ikonia> jakob: black list it
[01:16] <archie> no controller
[01:16] <kaoz> 2.6.15-23-386
[01:16] <Scrocko> hi people.. i've just installed ubuntu from a cd afriend of mine gave me... now, this is version 5. something... can I upgrade to 6.10 or do I have to install it from scratch??
[01:16] <kaoz> dapper release
[01:16] <red_> i received this error when trying to get my samba password setup Could not connect to machine 127.0.0.1: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE Failed to change password for red
[01:16] <BackPacker> archie: You must have put it on a controller, oryou couldn't format it
[01:16] <jakob> ikonia, I tried that. Which blacklist file should I use?
[01:16] <riotkittie> anyone know offhand if there's any difference between the Dapper live disc dl, the Dapper alt install download and the uhh uhh Dapper CDs sent via ship-it in terms of the software initially included?
[01:16] <ikonia> red_: samaba is not allowing you to connect on local host
[01:16] <adaptr> mag_: Still, this is not directly a consequence of running Windows.. I am merely trying to figure out whether you want to "do Linux" because you were disappointed with Windows, or because of some other reason... although disappointment is a good enough reason in general, your vague descriptions of it giving you problems lead me to believe it is more a gut reaction than a considered move to a different server platfoprm.. which is not without its challenges
[01:16] <Snide> exit
[01:16] <archie> what do u mean controller ?
[01:16] <crimsun> kaoz: then --reinstall g++-4.0
[01:16] <archie> i dont understand u
[01:16] <ikonia> !blacklist
[01:16] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add "blacklist modulename" to the end of that list
[01:17] <BackPacker> archie: If it's the master on IDE channel 1, it will be hda, the slave on channel 1 is hdb, the master on IDE channel 2 is hdc and the slave on channel 2 is hdd
[01:17] <seanj> riotkittie: they're all the same once installed
[01:17] <SilentDis> Scrocko, you have to upgrade one version at a time.  I assume you have 5.10, so you'd have to step to 6.06, then 6.10 if you wanted the latest.  bit of a pain.  I'd recommend just pulling 6.10, burning the CD, and going from there
[01:17] <Simka> Say please you have ICQ?
[01:17] <kaoz> yes i have installed gcc-3.4 right now
[01:17] <archie> i have one disk
[01:17] <mnoir> Scrocko: you will need to do 2 dist upgrades.  you might want to d/l a more recent iso instead
[01:17] <riotkittie> seanj, hm. odd.
[01:17] <ikonia> !ru >simk
[01:17] <archie> its partition
[01:17] <ikonia> !ru >simka
[01:17] <crimsun> kaoz: it's not part of that package; it's part of g++-3.4 and g++-4.0
[01:17] <bulmer> archie: use  fdisk -l
[01:17] <Simka> i dont understand u
[01:17] <ikonia> !ru >simka
[01:17] <Simka> Say please you have ICQ?
[01:17] <jakob> ikonia, nvm I think I figured it out. Is there a way to monitor which modules gets loaded?
[01:17] <BackPacker> archie: If you haveone disk, it's called hda if it's an IDE disk, and sda if it's SCSI
[01:17] <seanj> ikonia: use
[01:17] <ikonia> lsmod
[01:17] <ikonia> as you've just been told
[01:17] <crimsun> kaoz: it's not needed for a C compiler, but it is needed for preprocessing for the C++ frontend
[01:17] <seanj> use | not >
[01:17] <Scrocko> ok, that's what i feared :( thanks fro the help...
[01:18] <frederific> !kvm | frederific
[01:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kvm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:18] <archie> ide
[01:18] <ikonia> seanj:  no problem but why
[01:18] <seanj> !ru | Simka
[01:18] <ubotu> Simka:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[01:18] <bulmer> archie: use  fdisk -l
[01:18] <riotkittie> i have been reading books and tutorials and such and when they include images of whats supposed to be a default install, they have things i dont
[01:18] <ikonia> seanj: he asked for it in a pm
[01:18] <ewook> Simka, settle down, and go to a russian channel.
[01:18] <crimsun> Simka: don't spam, please
[01:18] <archie> L or I
[01:18] <seanj> ikonia: oh sorry
[01:18] <mnoir> riotkittie: that is not uncommon
[01:18] <SilentDis> Simka, we're happy to help if you have a problem, and can relate it in english.  if that's tough (understandably), there's language specific chat rooms available.  we prefer NOT to take chat outside these rooms, simply for the sake of 'best support' and so others can learn :)
[01:18] <bulmer> el
[01:18] <seanj> ikonia: thought i had it all figured out lol
[01:18] <ikonia> he's had  the message in channel about 10 times
[01:18] <kaoz> ok so i have gcc 3.4 and 40 installed... however to compile another prog i had to make a link to gcc 3.4
[01:18] <Scrocko> hehe, "go to a russian channel"
[01:18] <BackPacker> archie: fdisk -l (that's a lower-case L)
[01:18] <kaoz> should i redo that link to 4.0?
[01:19] <mag_> adaptr: /clear
[01:19] <ewook> Scrocko, what's the funny part? =)
[01:19] <archie> its do nothing
[01:19] <SilentDis> Scrocko, exactly what I said, but I prefer the confusing long explinations *giggle*
[01:19] <Simka> I who understands no?
[01:19] <Scrocko> both worked..
[01:19] <BackPacker> archie: try it as root: sudo fdisk -l
[01:19] <Simka> I who understands no?
[01:19] <ikonia> !ru >simka
[01:19] <Simka> I who understands no?
[01:19] <archie> ok ok sorry i forgot bout root again
[01:19] <SilentDis> !ru | simka READ THIS
[01:19] <ubotu> simka READ THIS:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[01:20] <Simka> !ru
[01:20] <mnoir> SilentDis: i thik she can't
[01:20] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[01:20] <Scrocko> ewook: ok, I didn't see she(?) was russian... just thought you tried to insult her :)
[01:20] <SilentDis> Simka, language?
[01:20] <superkirbyartist>  How can I get the Nexxtech USB to Ethernet cable to work?
[01:20] <Simka> SilentDis RUSSIAN
[01:20] <mnoir> SilentDis: i suspect she may have a locale problem
[01:21] <ewook> Scrocko, her? well, no. someone said he/she was a while ago :) how many different layouts is there for russian anyway?
[01:21] <godtvisken> What is a good program to remind me of things? Like the typing break, but more powerful
[01:21] <mnoir> SilentDis: and cannot see the cyrillic char
[01:21] <SilentDis> Simka, go to #ubuntu-ru
[01:21] <ewook> perhaps that's the reason for the person to return all the time
[01:21] <SilentDis> mnior ahhhh
[01:21] <archie> backPacker how to get more info i see only blocks
[01:21] <BackPacker> superkirbyartist: If you're trying to connect to a USB socket on a cable modem, it would be much better to get a CAT-5 crossover cable
[01:21] <BackPacker> archie: what do you mean 'blocks'?
[01:21] <mnoir> SilentDis: just a guess from the conversation - but may be a troll :)
[01:21] <archie> i mean sectors
[01:22] <Slart> godtvisken: there's something installed by default in ubuntu.. can't remember the name though
[01:22] <superkirbyartist> BackPacker: I am trying to connect my laptop (USB port) to the modem/router.
[01:22] <MooUK> godtvisken: Do you mean like some sort of calendar/todo program?
[01:22] <BackPacker> archie: what does it say immediately under 'Device'?
[01:22] <Wakeskater> BackPacker, everytime i hit the paste button on that website my computer freezes
[01:22] <archie> i need detail names size etc
[01:22] <SilentDis> godtvisken, the calendar app in evolution ties itself into the desktop well, and will send notifications even if it's not running :)
[01:22] <Wakeskater> happened 3 times in a row
[01:22] <riotkittie> why is cat 5 better than usb ?
[01:22] <kaoz> ok i had to remove GCC symlink and make a new one for gcc-4.0
[01:22] <archie> /dev/hdc1
[01:22] <kaoz> it was pointed at 3.4
[01:22] <BackPacker> superkirbyartist: Oh, OK. I don't think that will work, but maybe someone else knows different
[01:22] <crimsun> kaoz: don't do that manually
[01:22] <kaoz> i am the one who created the symlink
[01:22] <crimsun> kaoz: reinstalling gcc, gcc-4.0, and g++-4.0 will do that for you.
[01:22] <kaoz> initially i mean
[01:23] <BackPacker> riotkittie: I used to get lots of drop-outs when using
[01:23] <kaoz> oh hehe
[01:23] <kaoz> oh well its done now
[01:23] <BackPacker> riotkittie: ethernet to USB
[01:23] <Scrocko> ewook: well, now I'm aware HE is russian... but admit it's a good insult... "don't spam, go to a russian server" :)
[01:23] <kaoz> all i did was remove the symlink and make a new one
[01:23] <godtvisken> MooUK: yes
[01:23] <riotkittie> i have my laptop connected to the modem via crossover. the desktop's connected to the modem via usb.  i havent noticed any differenre
[01:23] <riotkittie> or difference, either
[01:23] <BackPacker> Wakeskater: Is there anywhere else you can paste it?
[01:23] <ewook> Scrocko, perhaps a bit ;) but patience for someone that repeatedly spammed doesn't go on my good side all the time :)
[01:24] <jakob> where are programs being run from if you type their name in the console?
[01:24] <BackPacker> Wakeskater: Do you have a website you could put it on?
[01:24] <riotkittie> then again, the desktop is my husband's XP box of horror. i try to steer clear when i can :P
[01:24] <ewook> Scrocko, and especially when he's on a different locale :)
[01:24] <Wakeskater> yeah ill figure something out
[01:24] <kitche> riotkittie: some modem can't work that way anyways mine can't I can't use usb and ethernet together
[01:24] <BackPacker> jakob: What do you mean, "where are they being run from"?
[01:24] <Scrocko> yeah, a bit annoying perhaps..
[01:24] <ewook> jakob, from the console :)
[01:24] <riotkittie> kitche: i was surprised to find out that it could actually be done
[01:25] <kaoz> does anyone know how to install fltk?
[01:25] <BackPacker> jakob: Do you mean "In which directory is the executable for the command I'm running"?
[01:25] <ewook> kaoz: tried sudo apt-get install fltk ?
[01:25] <jakob> ewook, backpacker, I have three lirc executables. When I write lirc, which of the file is it running?
[01:25] <ewook> oh
[01:25] <kaoz> says cant find package
[01:25] <BackPacker> jakob: Enter 'which lirc' in a console to find out
[01:25] <ewook> *points to BackPacker * =)
[01:25] <jakob> backpacker, thanks :D
[01:25] <ikonia> Simka: don't pm please
[01:26] <BackPacker> jakob: You're welcome
[01:26] <Ben^> Hey, I am having a problem getting my Edgy install to work. There is a well known problem with ATI Radeon X1600 cards not working on initial install, you have to install a specific driver, which is fine. I have installed from an Edgy Alternate cd, and now I need to boot up and get into the console to do some driver configuring. The problem is I cannot access any virtual consoles using CTRL-ALT-F1 to F5, although X.org is loaded into F6 (w
[01:26] <Wakeskater> BackPacker, http://rafb.net/p/8I8J8i97.html
[01:26] <Alex> Is there a lunix command to flush out your dns cache?
[01:26] <archie> sorry but is there normal disk tool app like in windows acronis for linux ?
[01:26] <Scrocko> ok, now I'll be off for a while... try to update to 6.10...
[01:26] <BackPacker> ewook: Why?
[01:26] <BackPacker> Wakeskater: Hold on while I have a look...
[01:26] <ewook> BackPacker, you had the answer for jakob :)
[01:26] <ikonia> alex no - dns isn't stored on your PC - its on a server
[01:26] <Alex> ikonia: Isn't there a cache kept?
[01:26] <ikonia> its the server that caches it
[01:26] <BackPacker> ewook: Oh, I see... :-)
[01:26] <Ben^> can you tell edgy to boot into single user mode, similar to booting knoppix with "knoppix 2" for runlevel 2 ?
[01:26] <seanj> unless you're running a DNS server yourself..
[01:27] <Alex> ikonia: Ah - righto! :0
[01:27] <ikonia> seanj: then its still a dns server
[01:27] <Wakeskater> BackPacker,  Ok thanks
[01:27] <seanj> ikonia: that's true
[01:27] <ikonia> ;)
[01:27] <seanj> I need to keep my mouth shut lol
[01:27] <kitche> Ben^: yes it's called rescue mode
[01:27] <ikonia> ha ha, no -your right
[01:27] <BackPacker> Wakeskater: As I thought, it doesn't give any clues...
[01:27] <SilentDis> Alex, I don't think linux caches DNS the same way windows does, if that answers your question
[01:27] <seanj> thanks :)
[01:27] <jakob> backpacker is there a way to monitor which modules gets loaded when I run a make install?
[01:27] <Wakeskater> BackPacker, is there anywhere else i can look
[01:27] <Ben^> kitchie do you have to use the CD for that ? or is it a boot option on the hard disk install ?
[01:28] <BackPacker> Wakeskater: I can see the reboot at 19:19:16 and the startup entries from 19:21:03, but there's no clue what's causing the freeze
[01:28] <SilentDis> jakob, you know... I JUST saw something that'll monitor install proggies, and log file changes.... give me a moment to poke around.
[01:28] <BackPacker> jakob: No idea, sorry.
[01:28] <ikonia> jakob: no modules get loaded if you do a make install
[01:28] <ikonia> make install installs software
[01:28] <ikonia> doesn't load modules
[01:28] <BackPacker> Wakeskater: You could try ~/.xsession-errrors
[01:28] <Wakeskater> BackPacker, What can i do?
[01:28] <Wakeskater> ok
[01:28] <kitche> Ben^: it's part of the hard drive install
[01:28] <Ben^> kitchie thanks
[01:28] <wheels3572> Can someone tell me why VMWare will not recognize my CD or CDRom ?
[01:28] <jakob> ikonia, what should I look for then? Whenever I restart I have to do a make install of lirc in order to get it working again.
[01:29] <Ben^> kitchie its wierd tho, I've never known virtual consoles to not work. :/
[01:29] <ikonia> jakob: why did you install it from source ?
[01:29] <Simka> I you explain if you will say me its ICQ
[01:29] <kitche> Ben^: you just have to get to the grub menu and I don't know the key since I don't use splash screens with grub
[01:29] <BackPacker> ikonia: it's remotely possible that a 'make install' could run a modprobe command, but it's unlikely
[01:29] <jakob> ikonia, I followed the "how to" on the ubuntu forum.
[01:29] <ikonia> BackPacker: VERY unlikley
[01:30] <BackPacker> ikonia: unless he was installing a module from source. Extreeeeeeemely unlikely
[01:30] <ikonia> I think we can assume from his question - he's not doing that
[01:30] <Ben^> kitchie yeah I can get to grub no problem. But I have no idea how to fix the vconsole problem once I get there. I can install graphics drivers to get X working, but virtual consoles use standard text modes on any video card - they should just *work*
[01:30] <SilentDis> time for me to WoW for a bit.  take care all :)
[01:30] <Simka> !ru>Simka
[01:30] <ikonia> jakob: what makes you think its a module loading problem
[01:30] <toM|vendettA> hi, I downloaded a movie and I need help figuring out what codec it needs?
[01:30] <SilentDis> !codec | toM|vendettA
[01:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:31] <SilentDis> !avi | toM|vendettA
[01:31] <ubotu> toM|vendettA: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:31] <jakob> ikonia, I'm a newbie, so it was just a wild shot. I just can't figure out what it is that makes lirc work after each make install.
[01:31] <ikonia> what happens when you start lirc
[01:31] <Wakeskater> BackPacker, how do i type that command in?
[01:31] <tommason> I am unable to edit my apache.conf file or anything in the /etc directory.. I have tried  chmoding it to 777 and I still can't access it..
[01:32] <groggy> jakob: You know about the LIRC daemon, right?
[01:32] <BackPacker> Wakeskater: Which command? To check ~/.xsession-errors?
[01:32] <ikonia> tommason: never chmod it to 777
[01:32] <ikonia> tommason: what command are you doing to edit the file
[01:32] <jakob> groggy, sorry no.
[01:32] <jrib> tommason: don't chmod things outside of HOME unless you understand what you are doing, many users have been forced to reinstall as a result.  Use sudo to edit your file
[01:32] <groggy> jakob: You need to start lircd in the background.
[01:32] <groggy> jakob: What kind of remote control are you using?
[01:32] <troy_s> anyone have information regarding eSATA here?  as in how to make it automount under Ubuntu?
[01:32] <tommason> sudo.. I was trying to use Qunta
[01:32] <jrib> !sudo | tommason
[01:32] <ubotu> tommason: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:32] <ewook> Anyone got a readable (or more understandable) site regarding chmod ?
[01:33] <jakob> groggy a realmagic remote control
[01:33] <Stormx2> tommason: gksudo gedit /path/to/apache.conf
[01:33] <ewook> !chmod
[01:33] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[01:33] <troy_s> eSATA - anyone?
[01:33] <juan_> does anyone know how to install a usb wireless mouse?
[01:33] <groggy> jakob: Have you configured LIRC to find it?
[01:33] <BackPacker> Wakeskater: You still there?
[01:33] <Tucky> is h3xis back yet??
[01:33] <jrib> ewook: more understandable when compared to what?
[01:33] <kitche> troy_s: what is eSATA?
[01:33] <troy_s> juan_ should be plug and pray
[01:33] <troy_s> erk.
[01:33] <ikonia> groggy: he said he read the ubuntu how to - it should all be done
[01:33] <Wakeskater> Yes
[01:34] <Wakeskater> yes that command
[01:34] <groggy> ikonia: OK, assuming that the device is recognized.
[01:34] <juan_> pray.....ain't working
[01:34] <ewook> jrib, regular documentation :)
[01:34] <ikonia> I'm still waiting for him to tell me the error
[01:34] <troy_s> eSATA is external sata -- if you have an external drive with sata support, it offers eSATA output on it, which you plug into an eSATA port (adapted from SATA)
[01:34] <troy_s> fastest throughput.
[01:34] <groggy> jakob: Actually, I'm a little confused.  I don't have a 'lirc' executable on my machine.
[01:34] <jrib> ewook: do you include the ubuntu wiki in "regular documentation"?
[01:34] <troy_s> juan_ chip / make / model / vendor?
[01:34] <groggy> jakob: ... and certainly not three.
[01:34] <jakob> ikonia, groggy, if I run lircd after a reboot the log returns this "readlink() failed for "/dev/lirc" "no such file or directory". But if I run a make install first it works perfectly.
[01:34] <Tucky> h3xis you their newere?
[01:34] <BackPacker> Wakeskater: OK. Open a console and enter 'less ~/.xsession-errors' (without the quotes). Page down to near the end and look for anything drastic. Press Q to quit
[01:34] <ewook> jrib, no, I meant man chmod :) !chmod did the trick :)
[01:34] <groggy> jakob: Ah.
[01:35] <ikonia> jakob: the device isn't present as you've not set a udev device to be created at boot time
[01:35] <jrib> ewook: ah ok
[01:35] <ewook> jrib, I tend to easily forget about ubuntu's acctually great way of describing things ;)
[01:35] <juan_> wireless optival mouse-rechargable by ONE
[01:35] <kitche> troy_s: ok  I just never heard the term eSATA before that's why I asked I always heard them called external sata
[01:35] <Wakeskater> BackPacker, says command not found
[01:35] <kitche> troy_s: what's your problem exactly?
[01:35] <troy_s> well eSATA is a different port
[01:35] <ikonia> kitche: I thought that was what esata was
[01:35] <Wakeskater> nm that
[01:35] <BackPacker> Wakeskater: you haven't got the 'less' command?
[01:35] <ikonia> external sata
[01:36] <jakob> ikonia, groggy, all the "how to's" mention a module which should be loaded on boot, but I don't have the module.
[01:36] <troy_s> basically you convert a sata cable to eSATA
[01:36] <kaoz> does anyone here have  a nostromo gamepad? onlinux?
[01:36] <ikonia> jakob: is it talking about a kernel or lirc module ?
[01:36] <troy_s> but the problem is that when you insert into the eSATA port, the drive is basically invisible... even via mount.
[01:36] <groggy> jakob: Clearly you have something if you can get it to run at all.
[01:36] <BackPacker> Wakeskater: You should be able to install it with apt-get install less
[01:36] <Malagmyr> How can I enable users to connect with VNC to the login screen? It's kind of silly to have to walk over to the actual computer, log on, enable vnc, walk back and use it..
[01:37] <jakob> groggy, I can easily get it to run, it just annoys me I have to do a make install every time I've rebooted.
[01:37] <rogue780> how do I make cron jobs run as root?
[01:37] <mnoir> scary - i almost understand it
[01:37] <troy_s> Malachi: why not just use ssh -X or -Y?
[01:37] <jakob> ikonia, "it"?
[01:37] <groggy> jakob: Anyway, I haven't had LIRC running on Ubuntu, so maybe there's soemthing special there.
[01:37] <jrib> ewook: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/filepermissions.html is a friendly one too
[01:37] <Tucky> anyone here good with getting the ralink 61 chip working for wireless?
[01:37] <Malagmyr> rogue780: edit the crontab as root?
[01:37] <groggy> jakob: I don't have any problems on Debian, though.
[01:37] <troy_s> eSATA knowledge -- anyone?
[01:37] <ikonia> do the docs refer to a kernel module or a lirc module loading
[01:37] <mnoir> rogue780: either add to root's crontab or use the crontabes in /etc
 !avi | toM|vendettA <-- Hi, I have the proper codec installed and all, but I want to play the movie on a windows computer, and I need to figure out what codec it requires
[01:37] <kitche> troy_s: I m not sure if Linux supports external sata yet
[01:37] <Eulogy> can anyone running the latest ubuntu run the command 'ld --verbose' and put the output on pastebin.ca ?
[01:37] <groggy> jakob: Is it running right now?
[01:37] <ewook> jrib, I salute you, thank you :)
[01:37] <jakob> groggy no. Want me to run a make install?
[01:37] <rogue780> mnoir, Malagmyr, crontab? I've just been using kcron...
[01:38] <mnoir> rogue780: the ctontabs in /etc are prolly a better choice
[01:38] <Jowi> Malagmyr, I think you need to use x11vnc and use the -auth option to point to the auth file for gdm. it's a bit messy using vnc for that. another (and probably better) option is to use freenx
[01:38] <groggy> jakob: No, don't.
[01:38] <Jowi> !freenx
[01:38] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[01:38] <troy_s> kitche:  that rather is silly considering it is basically SATA -- the drive works fine when plugged directly into the SATA port, but you put the eSATA adapter on and it doesn't see it after boot.
[01:38] <Tucky> anyone here good with getting the ralink 61 chip working for wireless?
[01:38] <carlos> hi all, does anybody else get randomly disconnected when using the terminal server client from ubuntu to windows
[01:38] <groggy> jakob: Try this:
[01:38] <groggy> As root,
[01:38] <juan_> well, another question, how do i setup wifi
[01:38] <gninommus> hello!
[01:38] <xon_xoff> Hello, could someone please help me with a shell command
[01:38] <groggy> mknod /dev/lirc c 61 0
[01:39] <jrib> !ask | xon_xoff
[01:39] <ubotu> xon_xoff: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:39] <Wakeskat> BackPacker, my computer froze when i typed that command
[01:39] <groggy> jakob: Then try rynning lircd again.
[01:39] <xon_xoff> OKay
[01:39] <Wakeskat> is there anywayt o pull up a log of that?
[01:39] <xon_xoff> I want to copy a bunch of files in a directory over another bunch of files in another directory
[01:39] <gninommus> does anyone know of a tutorial for getting tv out working in ubuntu with a radeon 9600xt?
[01:39] <xon_xoff> and I don't want to be prompted if I want to overwrite each one
[01:39] <PurpleMunk> w00t...  got my network issues resolved :)
[01:40] <BackPacker> Wakeskat: well, again there might be something in /var/log/messages... You've really got problems with that box, haven't you? I can see you reinstalling soon...
[01:40] <Tucky> anyone here good with getting the ralink 61 chip working for wireless?
[01:40] <Amadeo> I got my Nvidia drivers installed, but the correct resolutions and refresh rates don't show up for me
[01:40] <Malachi> troy_s: Huh?
[01:40] <jrib> xon_xoff: cp won't prompt you unless you ask it to
[01:40] <Wakeskat> i think its a problem with my nvidia drive. beryl, or my wifi BackPacker
[01:40] <Wakeskat> *driver
[01:40] <xon_xoff> oh wait never mind
[01:40] <di||itante> xon_xoff, "rm -f" the files to remove if they are different names than the source files
[01:40] <Jowi> xon_xoff, the -i option will prompt
[01:41] <PurpleMunk> anyone else ever have an issue with ubuntu reporting the MAC address of an ethernet adapter as FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF?
[01:41] <xon_xoff> It turns out if you have a * after what you want to copy it prompts you
[01:41] <BackPacker> Wakeskat: Have you tried turning beryl off? (if that's possible)
[01:41] <xon_xoff> thanks guys
[01:41] <jakob> groggy I still get the same, except this gets added to the log "pixelview_init(): no such device or address"
[01:41] <Wakeskat> what was that command again?
[01:41] <mnoir> PurpleMunk: maybe the last one ever made?? :))
[01:41] <BackPacker> Wakeskat: you mean the 'less' command? 'less /var/log/messages' or 'less ~/.xsession-errors'
[01:41] <groggy> jakob: OK, looks like we have the wrong major number.
[01:42] <Wakeskat> 2nd one
[01:42] <carlos> does anybody have disconnect problems with terminal server client (RDP)
[01:42] <groggy> Listen to what ikonia said.
[01:42] <BackPacker> Wakeskat: but you said you didn't have the 'less' command installed
[01:42] <PurpleMunk> yeh, lol..   don't ask me why, but that's what ubuntu was doing with my ethernet card that is integrated on my mobo..  had to install an external pci ethernet card in order to access the network...
[01:42] <Wakeskat> i do it was a mistake
[01:42] <Wakeskat> it froze the compute when i typed that though
[01:42] <cappicard> hmm... i'm getting no sound from flash in firefox. Is there any changes I need to make? Im running edgy
[01:42] <BackPacker> Wakeskat: oh well, one less mistake  :-)
[01:42] <ewook> carlos, what program are you running it with?
[01:42] <juan_> wifi on a thinkpad, anyone?
[01:42] <mnoir> PurpleMunk: did you research whether there is a driver issue?
[01:42] <Wakeskat> ok i typed it again and didnt freeze
[01:42] <jrib> xon_xoff: make sure it isn't aliased to  cp -i  , that's not what happens here
[01:43] <mnoir> PurpleMunk: that'd be my guess
[01:43] <Wakeskat> ill copy it to that site BackPacker
[01:43] <PurpleMunk> and also, I am now having a problem with ubuntu not booting when I have usb devices plugged into my PC.   it doesn't matter which device (mouse, external cd recorder, printer, etc)..  it happens every time..
[01:43] <kitche> troy_s: ok I read that the neer kernel has better support for eSATA the article was written 12-21-2006
[01:43] <BackPacker> juan_: you're asking a very big question. Depends on which card you've got, whether a driver is available,  whether you want Managed or Ad-hoc mode...
[01:43] <BackPacker> Wakeskat: OK
[01:43] <PurpleMunk> nah, I haven't looked into it too much at this point..  I'm up and running on the network, thas all I care about at this point.
[01:43] <Wakeskat> BackPacker, http://rafb.net/p/nwRo9297.html
[01:44] <red_> im banging my head against the wall trying to configure samba. please help im ready to trow my pcs out the window
[01:44] <jakob> ikonia, sorry I didn't see your last reply, let me see.
[01:44] <troy_s> kitche wow kitche good googling.
[01:44] <jrib> !samba | red_
[01:44] <ubotu> red_: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:44] <eyalw> hey!
[01:44] <troy_s> kitche: when you say neer you mean newer not some dutch thing right?
[01:44] <BackPacker> Wakeskat: Is that all of it? Just 22 lines?
[01:44] <juan_> backpacker,  what do i have to look for?
[01:44] <tommason> so is it better to use sudo -i then gksudo gedit /path/to/whatever
[01:44] <kitche> troy_s: yes newer so I would actually say update your kernel then it should work
[01:45] <red_> i can mount files but cant do anything with the files. asks for a user name and pass but i cant figure out how to set it up
[01:45] <PurpleMunk> i'll be going wireless here shortly if everything works out with the broadcom driver firmware rip ..
[01:45] <Eulogy> can anyone running the latest ubuntu run the command 'ld --verbose' and put the output on pastebin.ca ?
[01:45] <BackPacker> juan_: If you said which WiFi card you've got and how you want to set it up, maybe someone can help you
[01:45] <eyalw> I tried $ sudo apt-get install thunderbird , and got: Package thunderbird is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:45] <Wakeskat> BackPacker,  i cant get it to go up anymore
[01:45] <eyalw> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[01:45] <Wakeskat> so for now yes
[01:45] <eyalw> is only available from another source
[01:45] <ikonia> red_: the username/password is meant for a user on the place your mounting from
[01:45] <jrib> !info thunderbird
[01:45] <ubotu> Package thunderbird does not exist in any distro I know
[01:45] <BackPacker> Wakeskat: What you posted shows that the machine went down, but doesn't give any indication as to why
[01:45] <ikonia> eg: from server a mount /tmp from server b - the username and password is an account from server b
[01:45] <di||itante> red_,  you need to add a sambuser and sambapasswd for that user on the xserver side
[01:45] <juan_> ok
[01:45] <enyc> ikonia: eyalw I think the package is 'mozilla-thunderbuird'
[01:45] <jakob> ikonia, this is what the how to says "echo "alias char-major-61-* lirc_gpio" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/lirc"
[01:46] <Jowi> !info mozilla-thunderbird
[01:46] <ubotu> mozilla-thunderbird: Mozilla Thunderbird standalone mail client. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.0.9-0ubuntu0.6.10 (edgy), package size 10504 kB, installed size 29596 kB
[01:46] <eyalw> !info thunderbird
[01:46] <ubotu> Package thunderbird does not exist in any distro I know
[01:46] <eyalw> ?
[01:46] <red_> how do i do that??
[01:46] <ikonia> jakob: ok
[01:46] <Wakeskat> BackPacker, how do i scroll up in the terminal. page up wont work and theres nothing to slide
[01:46] <di||itante> red_, man smbpasswd
[01:46] <eyalw> so how can i download it?
[01:46] <BackPacker> juan_: For example, I've got a Belkin PCMCIA card in my Thinkpad R40 and Ubuntu just recognised it
[01:46] <red_> look for mozilla-thunderbird
[01:46] <ikonia> red_: told you 2 times - smbpassword
[01:46] <red_> wont work
[01:46] <BackPacker> Wakeskat: hold down the shift key and use the up/down arrows and PageUP, PageDn
[01:46] <gdb> !info mozilla-thunderbird
[01:46] <eyalw> pk
[01:46] <ubotu> mozilla-thunderbird: Mozilla Thunderbird standalone mail client. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.0.9-0ubuntu0.6.10 (edgy), package size 10504 kB, installed size 29596 kB
[01:46] <eyalw> ok
[01:46] <gdb> ;-)
[01:47] <Amadeo> How can I fix the resolutions/refresh rates in Gnome? I'm stuck at 75Hz without all of my resolutions showing
[01:47] <ikonia> red_: what authentication database have you setup to use
[01:47] <toM|vendettA> Eulogy: http://rafb.net/p/tD1MT268.html
[01:47] <jrib> eyalw: sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird   that's what it is called (as someone above said)
[01:47] <BackPacker> juan_: And I just set up the card using the Networking dialog on the System menu
[01:47] <Wakeskat> then i guess that is it BackPacker
[01:47] <red_> ikonia i know you dig this is my outputred@red-desktop:~$ smbpasswd
[01:47] <red_> Old SMB password:
[01:47] <red_> New SMB password:
[01:47] <red_> Retype new SMB password:
[01:47] <red_> Could not connect to machine 127.0.0.1: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[01:47] <eyalw> thanks!
[01:47] <red_> Failed to change password for red
[01:47] <BackPacker> Wakeskat: Unless anyone else has any ideas...
[01:47] <red_> red@red-desktop:~$
[01:47] <jrib> !paste | red_
[01:47] <ubotu> red_: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[01:47] <troy_s> kitche: thanks for the tip.  i'll give it a try.
[01:47] <juan_> let me look for the wifi card
[01:47] <Eulogy> toM|vendettA: thank you very much :)
[01:47] <di||itante> red_,  do is as root
[01:48] <gninommus> how do i access fglrx-control?
[01:48] <BackPacker> Wakeskat: Whatever is causing it isn't putting any helpful messages anywhere
[01:48] <carlos> who's using a audigy 2 zs notebook? my mic port is not working
[01:48] <Wakeskat> BackPacker, http://rafb.net/p/TxQ2dy77.html
[01:48] <red_> duh- that was obvious!
[01:49] <ikonia> red_: do you have an account on the server the shared drive is on ?
[01:49] <BackPacker> Wakeskat: Again, line 12 shows that the machine went down, but again there's no indication as to why
[01:49] <Wakeskat> It has some lines after that about beryl
[01:49] <red_> ikonia: this is gonna sound stupid but an account?
[01:50] <ikonia> yes, a username
[01:50] <ikonia> and password
[01:50] <ikonia> a login account
[01:50] <red_> ikonia: no i don't how do i set that up
[01:50] <ikonia> then thats why its not working
[01:50] <ikonia> the account needs to be on the server - not th eclient
[01:50] <ikonia> the client
[01:51] <di||itante> ikonia, samba server doen not require a unix user be setup on the server
[01:51] <ikonia> di||itante: I know
[01:51] <ikonia> he's not running a samba server
[01:51] <ikonia> he's trying to mount from a remote server
[01:52] <n2diy> BackPacker: have you looked at his kernel log?
[01:52] <Jowi> red_, sudo smbpasswd -a username
[01:52] <di||itante> ikonia, sorry, he been talking samba for a while
[01:53] <kaoz> anyone here have a nostromo n52 gamepad?
[01:53] <ikonia> di||itante: don't I know it, thats why I've decided to try to sort it
[01:53] <BackPacker> n2diy: didn't think of that
[01:53] <kaoz> workin with ubuntu?
[01:53] <lifepositive> how can I install python on ubuntu please?
[01:53] <jrib> lifepositive: it is installed by default
[01:53] <n2diy> BackPacker: a million eyes.
[01:53] <jakob> groggy, it hit me that it's now able to find the /dev/lirc it's just not able to open it. Is there something I can do in that case?
[01:53] <red_> Jowi: Failed to initialise SAM_ACCOUNT for user username. Does this user exist in the UNIX password database ?
[01:53] <red_> Failed to modify password entry for user username
[01:54] <BackPacker> Wakeskat: Try checking out /var/log/kernel/errors using the less command
[01:54] <BackPacker> n2diy: Thanks!
[01:54] <n2diy> BackPacker: nada
[01:54] <user01> how do you get multiple language keyboards mapped correctly?
[01:54] <Jowi> red_, the user must 1. exist on the linux machine and 2. be added with smbpasswd -a command
[01:54] <Jowi> red_, need some sleep. almost 2am here. I wish you luck :)
[01:55] <Wakeskat> says no such file or directory
[01:55] <red_> Jowi: no problem thanks for you help i tired of this too.
[01:55] <BackPacker> Wakeskat: Forgot to say, you need to use sudo: sudo less /var/log/kernel/errors
[01:55] <Wakeskat> I did that
[01:56] <Wakeskat> not there
[01:56] <juan_> intel  PRO/wireless LAN 2100 3b mini pci
[01:56] <arrenlex> How would I do echo "foo" >> /var/bar with sudo?
[01:56] <jrib> arrenlex: sudo -i   first, then   echo "foo" >> /var/bar
[01:56] <BackPacker> Wakeskat: you don't have a /var/log/kernel/errors file?
[01:56] <lifepositive> jrib: how do I run python? :P
[01:56] <crimsun> arrenlex: echo foo |sudo tee -a /var/bar
[01:56] <arrenlex> jrib: Any ways without new shells?
[01:57] <Wakeskat> i typed it in
[01:57] <Wakeskat> let me look manually
[01:57] <kuzmaster> hello all
[01:57] <arrenlex> crimsun: I'll try, thanks.
[01:57] <user01> juan i have that same card :)
[01:57] <jrib> arrenlex: echo "foo" | sudo tee -a /var/bar  I think
[01:57] <juan_> ok
[01:57] <juan_> how do i configure that card?
[01:57] <n2diy> BackPacker: Wakeskat, here on Dapper it looks like it should be /var/log/kern.log
[01:57] <kuzmaster> so, im trying to install RaConfig, using these intructions
[01:57] <kuzmaster> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT2500?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29#Raconfig
[01:57] <jrib> lifepositive: you can run the interpreter by typing 'python' in a shell.  What are you trying to do with python?
[01:58] <user01> juan: i just got it working are you on a t40?
[01:58] <arrenlex> crimsun, jrib: that works, thanks!
[01:58] <jrib> oh crimsun said it first :)
[01:58] <capixaba> can someone help me?
[01:58] <kuzmaster> but when i get up to the make steps, i dont think it works.... here what i did http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/700/
[01:58] <Wakeskat> I dont have a Kernel folder in var/log/
[01:58] <i|D> offline - good night
[01:58] <capixaba> I got a problem
[01:58] <Wakeskat> im using 6.10
[01:58] <BackPacker> n2diy: Might have known it. That's what I get for running Mandriva 2007 while on #ubuntu...
[01:58] <user01> juan: im using edgy and it detected it right away
[01:58] <kuzmaster> now, is that supposed to happen?
[01:58] <Wakeskat> i have a kern.log
[01:58] <capixaba> I have a laptop HP zv6000 with ubuntu and I would like to run my wireless
[01:59] <BackPacker> Wakeskat: that's the one. But I have to say right now, I'm not sure I'd know what to look for
[01:59] <n2diy> BackPacker: ahhh. :)
[01:59] <capixaba> but is broadcom... can someone help please?
[01:59] <kitche> capixaba: which broadcom chipset?
[01:59] <BackPacker> n2diy: And it's what I get for hanging out in #mandriva and moonlighting in here...  :-)
[02:00] <juan_> it doesnt say, i just got it from a friend
[02:00] <lifepositive> jrib: learning about it
[02:00] <capixaba> kitche: broadcom BCM4318
[02:00] <capixaba> I am trying to 6 months
[02:00] <Gumby> can anyone tell me where network manager stores its encrypted network keys
[02:00] <capixaba> and I coudn't do nothing
[02:00] <jrib> lifepositive: you might like using  ipython  to play in
[02:00] <n2diy> BackPacker: Now I'll have to remember to ask my helper what they are running!
[02:00] <Wakeskat> what was that site that you can paste something to BackPacker? im gonna see if i can freeze it again
[02:00] <capixaba> it's very hard man....
[02:00] <user01> juan_: did you put in your wireless setting already?  system admin networking?
[02:00] <juan_> it just says ibm thinkpad
[02:00] <BackPacker> !paste | Wakeskat
[02:00] <ubotu> Wakeskat: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[02:01] <capixaba> kitche: can u help me?
[02:01] <kitche> capixaba: open up a terminal and type sudo ndiswrapper -l and see what it says
[02:01] <juan_> no i havent, i've never worked wireless, firts time
[02:01] <capixaba> kitche: ok... give me a second
[02:01] <lifepositive> jrib: ipython?
[02:01] <lifepositive> jrib: bash: ipython: command not found
[02:02] <jrib> lifepositive: you have to install that one
[02:02] <capixaba> kitche: hey man... this information: roanbrasil@roanbrasil-laptop:~$ sudo ndiswrapper -l
[02:02] <capixaba> No drivers installed
[02:02] <lifepositive> jrib: ok brb
[02:02] <user01> juan_: go to command screen and type in lspci
[02:02] <user01> juan_: if you see that card it is there and ready
[02:02] <kuzmaster> so any way. i was using make to install RaConfig, and i got up to the part where i do "make" but, i dont think it worked, it came up with heaps of stuff..... here what happend http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/700/
[02:03] <juan_> lets see
[02:03] <user01> juan_: then make sure that your wireless router is B
[02:03] <kitche> capixaba: ok you need to install the drivers then you don't happen to have the driver install cd around do you?
[02:03] <juan_> ok
[02:03] <juan_> yes, here it is in the last line
[02:03] <user01> juan_: and ask whoever set up the wireless router about any security settings
[02:03] <Stormx2> kuzmaster: Looks fine to me.
[02:04] <capixaba> kitche: I tried to emule the windows driver... but I can't ... I dont understand the problem... do u have a solution?
[02:04] <capixaba> some solution?
[02:04] <jakob> what is the point of the 0byte files in the dev library?
[02:04] <kuzmaster> Stormx2: so thats perfectlly fine/normal?
[02:04] <kitche> capixaba: well you have to extract the bcml5.inf file and the .sy file from the .exe
[02:04] <juan_> what os the wirless router to 8?
[02:04] <Malagmyr> Where can I get an explanation on the difference between the bigiron, generic and server kernels?
[02:04] <Stormx2> kuzmaster: I'd assume so. Sure you don't need to ./configure first anyway?
[02:04] <puff> Every now and then I get this weird thing where gnome appears  to freeze up on me.  I'm running gnome metacity under ubuntu dapper. The app  that's currently on top works fine (at the moment, emacs) but I can't alt-tab and I can't get the gnome toolbar dropdowns to work.  I'm about to ctrl-alt-backspace to restart X, but I'm looking for a) less drastic remedies and b) clues as to why this is happening and how to prevent it.
[02:04] <capixaba> kitche: I think that I did it.
[02:04] <|Sora|> there is no these for ubuntu that can make window titles transparent, right?
[02:05] <|Sora|> these = themes
[02:05] <MagicFab_> hi - where can I d/l Edgy DVD ISOs ? Can't seem to find them
[02:05] <kuzmaster> Stormx2: ummmm...i have no idea, i am following this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT2500?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29#Raconfig
[02:05] <nvez> I'm looking to migrate to Ubuntu (once again!) -- However, I only have 15 GB of free space on my ONLY hard (all NTFS), is it possible to convert 10 GB of the free NTFS space to a linux FS & then move over my files and extend the parition? If you understand what I'm trying to stay? :p
[02:05] <Stormx2> |Sora|: You'd need compiz, beryl or xgl
[02:05] <nvez> -t
[02:05] <capixaba> kitche: first... What must I do first?
[02:05] <Stormx2> well no
[02:05] <kitche> capixaba: get the .exe file
[02:05] <user01> juan_: go to network under system and administration
[02:05] <Stormx2> just compiz i think... bleh
[02:05] <MagicFab_> nvez, yes, but risky
[02:06] <MagicFab_> nvez you have backups, eh :) ?
[02:06] <capixaba> kitche: yeah... I got it...
[02:06] <Stormx2> puff: No idea... You can't run commands can you? Try killall gnome-panel
[02:06] <capixaba> kitche: and now?
[02:06] <dm> Anyone know of a way to powersave an NVIDIA card?
[02:06] <user01> juan_: you should see a wireless device
[02:06] <juan_> yes, i see it
[02:06] <kitche> capixaba: then do unzip name.exe replace the name with the name of the .exe file
[02:06] <nvez> MagicFab_: I know it is, but with only an extra 80GB external and 40 empty on it..
[02:06] <|Sora|> Stormx2, is that compiz in repository?
[02:06] <nvez> Oops, sorry, wrong highlight, I meant that for MagicFab_
[02:06] <rogue780> anyone know why I'm getting a test.c:1:22: error: iostream.h: No such file or directory error?
[02:06] <Stormx2> !compiz
[02:06] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:06] <user01> juan_: and then you click on configure and enter your settings
[02:06] <n2diy> BackPacker: Wakeskat, ?
[02:06] <juan_> it says active
[02:06] <dvheumen> could someone give me a hand. I've been having unexplained shutdowns of Ubuntu Dapper for a few months now, very sporadic, but it happened twice in a few hours now (the last just minutes ago). How can I see if Ubuntu has shut down properly or if it was a sudden power loss?
[02:07] <BackPacker> n2diy: I'm here, but Wakeskat's box went down 4 minutes ago.
[02:07] <Stormx2> |Sora|: You may be more interested in beryl tho, thats more supported I think...
[02:07] <capixaba> kitche: yeah... I did ... and now?
[02:07] <MagicFab_> nvez, you can reduce your NTFS partition size to free those 10GB (after defrag'ing), then use LVM to install U on those 10GB, then extend the partition/ combine with other LVM modules.
[02:07] <|Sora|> ok
[02:07] <|Sora|> !beryl
[02:07] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[02:07] <Dimensions> Hiya ... i have a zd1211 usb Wlan adopter .... i have downloaded a firmware for it ... which says copy files to /lib/firmware/zd1211 which i did ... but wat else i have to do i donno ... i still dont get it working ....
[02:07] <kitche> capixaba: ok you should have couple of folders now one of them should say Driver in the name
[02:07] <n2diy> BackPacker: Roger that, waiting to get a peek at his log.
[02:08] <|Sora|> Stormx2, only one is needed right?
[02:08] <capixaba> kitche: how can I do it?
[02:08] <user01> juan_: you put in the name of the network the ssid
[02:08] <BackPacker> n2diy: I guess his machine froze when he tried pastebinning it
[02:08] <Malagmyr> !bigiron
[02:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu's "bigiron" server kernel (linux-image-server-bigiron) is geared towards systems with more than 8 CPUs.
[02:08] <gop> !pacman
[02:08] <ubotu> pacman: Chase Monsters in a Labyrinth. In component universe, is optional. Version 10-16ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 24 kB, installed size 140 kB
[02:08] <MagicFab_> nvez, read a bit about LVMs and if possible, practice by using a vrtual machine / emulator (like qemu)
[02:08] <Stormx2> |Sora|: I'm not too familiar with any of it
[02:08] <user01> juan_: and then the password if there is one
[02:08] <Stormx2> |Sora|: But I think beryl is the best way to go
[02:08] <kitche> dvheumen: if dapper doesn't do a e2fsck then it shutdown probably most likely
[02:08] <nvez> MagicFab_: Know of any newbie-friendly tutorials out there or I'll have to go through the hard way? :p
[02:08] <Stormx2> |Sora|: Just follow instructions.
[02:08] <|Sora|> ok
[02:08] <user01> juan_: and make sure the box next to the wireless card is checked to enable it
[02:09] <juan_> ok
[02:09] <dvheumen> kitche: well, I haven't got a monitor connected at the moment, so I missed the possible check, can I find this in some log?
[02:09] <Heed> So I just did a fresh install of Edgy and got the first batch of updates, now everything that's downloaded from a repository is moving at 5-10 KB/s instead of the normal 160-180; anyone have an idea of why? The rest of my downloads are working fine..
[02:09] <user01> juan_: i uncheck the other box for the ethernet one so there isnt any confusion
[02:09] <MagicFab_> nvez, how much time you willing to dedicate to this ?
[02:09] <puff> Stormx2: yeah, I'm logged in via a console window, so I can run commands. Kill gnome-panel?
[02:09] <nvez> MagicFab_: As much as it takes, I'm a patient guy I guess. :p
[02:10] <n2diy> BackPacker: That would not be good.
[02:10] <nvez> I do have a fair big lot of Linux experience but not in FS (mainly servers, etc)
[02:10] <Jordan_U> Heed: You may just have a slow mirror
[02:10] <kitche> dvheumen: you might
[02:10] <juan_> but what about if i use mi wifi at cafes where they offer this service but there is no way of knowig all this data?
[02:10] <capixaba> kitche: how?
[02:10] <MagicFab_> nvez: if you want to practice on qemu, you'll need a couple hours, plus then doing the install another 2-3.
[02:10] <BackPacker> n2diy: Very true. My bet is that he'll reinstall some time soon
[02:10] <n2diy> BackPacker: Reinstall!?
[02:10] <kitche> capixaba: how what you just go into that folder in a terminal with cd folder that has driver in it's name
[02:11] <nvez> MagicFab_: Another small tiny thing, I have a Core 2 Duo and it has support for EM64T or w/e, can I use the Ubuntu x64 version and do you suggest it or I am better off with the x32 version?
[02:11] <Jordan_U> juan_: You want a program to automatically display and connect to wireless networks?
[02:11] <dvheumen> kitche: I see some references of ext3_orphan_cleanup: deleting unreferenced inode 77005xx. This is from fsck, isn't it?
[02:11] <Stormx2> puff: Try it.
[02:11] <capixaba> kitche: no.. I did it.. next pass
[02:11] <Stormx2> puff: No. killall gnome-panel
[02:11] <juan_> yes
[02:11] <Jordan_U> !network-manager | juan_
[02:11] <ubotu> juan_: networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[02:11] <BackPacker> n2diy: When they first try Linux some people re-format at the first sign of trouble.  When they get a little more experience, they reinstall. After a year or so they just grep through the logs...
[02:11] <kitche> dvheumen: most likely
[02:11] <Heed> Oh.. hmm.. is there anyway to manually choose a mirror?
[02:11] <riotkittie> network manager rules
[02:11] <MagicFab_> I just finished reviewing and proofreading the docs at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/QemuEmulator
[02:12] <kitche> capixaba: do you see any bcm*.inf files the star is just a wild card
[02:12] <riotkittie> although i have not actually tested it yet. been wired all day.
[02:12] <riotkittie> but it looks cool :P
[02:12] <capixaba> kitche: yeah.. I see it... bcmwl5.inf  or bcmwl5a.inf
[02:13] <MagicFab_> nvez, you'll have to hack a bit more to get support for stuff like flash, it's up to you. I would start with 32bit and in a couple of Ubuntu releases perhaps 64bit plugins/codecs etc will have better support
[02:13] <n2diy> BackPacker: Ok, I'm going to get booted off my ISP in seven minutes, so I'm just going to log off now, reset the connection, and then I'm good for another eight hours. I'll be back in a couple of minutes.
[02:13] <capixaba> kitche: and now?
[02:13] <Jordan_U> Heed: System -> Administration -> Software Sources Try the U.S. mirror if you live in the states
[02:13] <BackPacker> n2diy: OK
[02:13] <Heed> Ok, I'll give it a try
[02:13] <kitche> capixaba: ok you need to sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5a.inf then do ndiswrapper -l to see if it says driver present and hardware present
[02:13] <nvez> MagicFab_: I guess it's like Windows x64, same performence and less compatibility. :p
[02:14] <Heed> Well, it was already on the US mirror, switching it to the 'main server' seems to have fixed it..
[02:14] <capixaba> kitche: Installed ndis drivers:
[02:14] <capixaba> bcmwl5a         driver present, hardware present
[02:14] <capixaba> kitche: and now man?
[02:14] <jakob> n2diy was it you who knew a program that would monitor make installs?
[02:15] <kitche> capixaba: ok your hard ware is now setup
[02:15] <MagicFab_> nvez, when practicing with qemu, read about LVM and do your tests there. Search "Ubuntu LVM" in Google, I didn't find any good beginner's guide on the wiki
[02:15] <MagicFab_> Also check the forums
[02:15] <break_> is there a program like gmail notifier for linux??
[02:15] <MagicFab_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=141900
[02:15] <capixaba> kitche: how can I test it?
[02:15] <nvez> Yeah, I'm checking out the forums
[02:15] <n2diy> jakob: no sorry.
[02:15] <kitche> capixaba: you can do sudo iwlist scan see if it finds any ap near you
[02:15] <coulix> hello guys i am trying to make the edgy cd on a usb stick to install edgy on 965 intel chipset, i followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent but when it start on the comp it wroter "A] ]  weird chars for 1 line and stop"
[02:16] <BackPacker> n2diy: Still no sign of Wakeskat
[02:16] <Jordan_U> break_: Yes, I believe gmail notifier itself is available for Linux also
[02:16] <MagicFab_> nvez: compatibility is much better than Winx64 actually. Comparatively, most of the hardware tha has open/free drivers in 32bit linux will work in 64bit linux. Windows has to rely on its manugfacturers' drivers to do that
[02:16] <capixaba> kitche: I got a problem...
[02:16] <capixaba> kitche: look this msg
[02:16] <n2diy> BackPacker: maybe he is re-installing?
[02:16] <capixaba> kitche: lo        Interface doesn't support scanning.
[02:16] <capixaba> eth0      Interface doesn't support scanning.
[02:16] <capixaba> eth1      Interface doesn't support scanning : No such device
[02:16] <capixaba> sit0      Interface doesn't support scanning.
[02:16] <BackPacker> n2diy:  :-)
[02:16] <capixaba> I am sorry the flooding
[02:16] <kitche> !paste|capixaba
[02:16] <ubotu> capixaba: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[02:16] <break_> hahah
[02:17] <break_> eth0 is a warez group
[02:17] <break_> :x
[02:17] <capixaba> I am sorry the flooding
[02:17] <capixaba> ubotu: sorry man...
[02:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sorry man... - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:17] <Jordan_U> capixaba: Ubotu is a bot :)
[02:17] <kitche> capixaba: hmm you might have to sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[02:17] <capixaba> Jordan_U: I didn't know... lollll
[02:18] <capixaba> kitche: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko': No such file or directory
[02:18] <riotkittie> hahaha
[02:18] <capixaba> kitche: what did it happen?
[02:18] <noelferreira> does anyone have subtitles for the movie "The Good Shepherd"?
[02:19] <capixaba> kitche: what can i do now? no work...
[02:19] <Jordan_U> noelferreira: I think you posted in the wrong channel :)
[02:19] <riotkittie> do i want to install Edgy?
[02:19] <pagefault_> sure
[02:19] <dm> Which ones better cpufreqd + ACPI or powernowd?
[02:20] <capixaba> Jordan_U: I think too about noel ferreira
[02:20] <noelferreira> no i didn't Jordan_U? i can't find it anywhere
[02:20] <pagefault_> dunno
[02:20] <capixaba> kitche: ?
[02:20] <pagefault_> powernowd works good on my core 2
[02:20] <kitche> capixaba: your missing the ndiswrapper module
[02:20] <capixaba> kitche: what must I do then?
[02:20] <pagefault_> yeah
[02:20] <pagefault_> hmm
[02:20] <noelferreira> Jordan_U: Do you know any better place?
[02:20] <pagefault_> I use
[02:21] <capixaba> noelferreira: #subtitles
[02:21] <pagefault_> hmm
[02:21] <pagefault_> powernowd works good on my core 2
[02:21] <kitche> capixaba: install ndiswrapper-common
[02:21] <pagefault_> what cpu you got
[02:21] <pagefault_> I think they basically are all the same in terms of stepping support
[02:21] <pagefault_> powernowd works on pretty much everything afaict
[02:21] <pagefault_> but
[02:21] <capixaba> kitche: my source.list doesnt have hte url to ndiswrapper-common in the apt-get install do u have?
[02:21] <noelferreira> really capixaba is that a place like that
[02:21] <pagefault_> powernowd works good on my core 2
[02:21] <Jordan_U> noelferreira: This is a support channel, #ubuntu-offtopic maybe, but not likely there either :(
[02:21] <noelferreira> awesome
[02:22] <noelferreira> lol
[02:22] <capixaba> kitche: or .. how can i do with tgz?
[02:22] <noelferreira> but people in here used to have almost everything jordan
[02:22] <pagefault_> on notebooks it works well with my core duo as well
[02:22] <pagefault_> powernowd works good on my core 2
[02:22] <kitche> !ndiswrapper
[02:22] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:22] <pagefault_> oopsp
[02:22] <pagefault_> oops
[02:22] <pagefault_> brb
[02:23] <kitche> capixaba: since your hardware is present now that wifidocs will help you finish it
[02:23] <capixaba> kitche: help me please... I did it.. I have tried to 6 months it...
[02:23] <capixaba> I need your help man
[02:24] <Amadeo> Man, this is frustrating...trying to get your resolution and refresh rate to be supported
[02:24] <kitche> capixaba: hang on a second let me figure out what repo it's in
[02:24] <puff> Stormx2: Hm, killed metacity, it restarted itself, was unfrozen for 5-10 seconds then froze  up again.
[02:24] <capixaba> kitche: please
[02:24] <puff> Stormx2: killed gnome-panel, it restarted itself, same behavior.
[02:24] <Stormx2> puff: Wow... something is screwing with metacity...
[02:24] <Stormx2> eek.
[02:24] <kitche> capixaba: ndiswrapper-common is in main your sources.list shuld have main enabled
[02:24] <capixaba> kitche: where?
[02:25] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> I have a problem with VSFTPD when I try to connect with CuteFTP-pro. When I try to connect it says Can't read from control socket. Socket error = #10054 but right before I rebooted my box I could connect it it perfect.
[02:25] <puff> Stormx2: Just for good measure, I killed my large swiftfox process and left it dead, in case the memory it was consuming was a factor.  Shouldn't be, i have 2GB on this machine, but.
[02:25] <puff> So any last words before I ctrl-alt-backspace?
[02:25] <kitche> capixaba: just sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common and it should install it after asking if you want to install it
[02:25] <ozgurk> capixaba, nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:25] <capixaba> kitche: but my aot-get doesnt have it....
[02:26] <ozgurk> capixaba, apt-get
[02:26] <puff> here goes nothing...
[02:26] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> I have a problem with VSFTPD when I try to connect with CuteFTP-pro. When I try to connect it says Can't read from control socket. Socket error = #10054 but right before I rebooted my box I could connect it it perfect.
[02:26] <Stormx2> puff: eek
[02:27] <ozgurk> ozgur@ozgur:~$ apt-cache search ndiswrapper-common
[02:27] <ozgurk> ndiswrapper-common - Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper
[02:27] <capixaba> ozgurk: I need find ndiswrapper common
[02:28] <kuzmaster> hello everyone
[02:28] <kuzmaster> again
[02:28] <kitche> capixaba: what do you think ndiswrapper-common is? there is a - not a space
[02:28] <puff> Stormx2: Thanks for the help, in any event.
[02:29] <capixaba> kitche: my directory in apt-get doesn't find ndiswrapper-common... can u give ur sources.list? send me?
[02:29] <capixaba> because I dont have it... I need
[02:29] <kuzmaster> i am having quite a bad problem.... i cant get my wireless card to work. I am 99.9% sure that it is a RaLink chipset
[02:29] <kuzmaster> i am using ubuntu 6.10, with all the updates
[02:29] <kuzmaster> can somone please tell me how to make my wireless connection work
[02:29] <capixaba> ozgurk: can u understand me?
[02:29] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> How do I uninstall vsftpd on ubuntu server ?
[02:29] <ozgurk> capixaba, what is ubuntu version ? 6.06 6.10 ?
[02:30] <capixaba> ozgurk: i dont know.. how can I know?
[02:30] <kitche> capixaba: I don't use ubuntu so I don't have a source.list
[02:30] <kuzmaster> i have tried installing RaConfig, that dosnt work, it complains about that the device isnt found.....
[02:30] <ozgurk> asdfjkahsdfjkha, apt-get remove --purge vsftpd
[02:30] <ozgurk> capixaba, what is your ubuntu version ?
[02:31] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> ozgurk thank you so much. I have asked so many questions in here the past couple days and you are the first one to ever answer
[02:31] <kuzmaster> under networking, my wireless card shows up as wlan0 and wmaster, not ra0 like most people/docs have listed/said
[02:31] <capixaba> ozgurk: I dont know... how can I know? where can i look the ubuntu version?
[02:31] <kuzmaster> so can somone please tell me how to get my wireless card to work
[02:31] <ozgurk> capixaba, uname -ar ?
[02:32] <kuzmaster> ahhhhh anyone at all?
[02:32] <kuzmaster> !sourcs.list
[02:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sourcs.list - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:32] <kuzmaster> !sources.list
[02:32] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[02:32] <kuzmaster> !EasySource
[02:32] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:32] <nvez> MagicFab_: Can't I use the utility that comes while installing Ubuntu that resizes NTFS?
[02:32] <mooey> kuzmaster, i cant tell you how to make your wireless card work but its not a problem that its called wlan0. wlan0 is a standard name, ra0 is just what the ralink drivers call the interface.
[02:32] <ozgurk> capixaba,
[02:32] <ozgurk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/705/
[02:32] <capixaba> !sources.list
[02:32] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[02:33] <ozgurk> my sources.list pasted link..
[02:33] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> ozgurk I get 3 errors when I type that. one is not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock another is unable to write to /var/cache/apt/ and the last is the package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened
[02:33] <ozgurk> capixaba, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/705/
[02:33] <mooey> kuzmaster, you can rename it from wlan0 to ra0 in /etc/iftab but it won't make any odds
[02:33] <ozgurk> asdfjkahsdfjkha, rm -rf /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[02:33] <kuzmaster> mooey: i was figuring that that wasnt a problem..... i thought i was somthing that i should note it maybe.....
[02:33] <kuzmaster> mooey: ill try that
[02:33] <mooey> kuzmaster, whats the problem with your wifi?
[02:33] <capixaba> ozgurk: thanks a lot... I will paste in my sources.list
[02:33] <kuzmaster> mooey: it just dosnt work
[02:34] <ozgurk> capixaba, ok
[02:34] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> ozgurk CAnnot remove read only file system
[02:34] <kuzmaster> mooey: dosnt work full stop
[02:34] <mooey> kuzmaster, if you see wlan0 thats a good start :-) when you say doesn't work, does it list any networks?
[02:34] <ozgurk> asdfjkahsdfjkha,
[02:34] <MagicFab_> nvez, yes , always backup first
[02:34] <kuzmaster> mooey: well, where should it be listing networks?
[02:34] <MagicFab_> nvez, I've done several dozen partition resizings/ installs with U. w/o problem
[02:35] <mooey> kuzmaster, enter: 'iwlist wlan0 scanning' into a console
[02:35] <kitche> kuzmaster: sudo iwlist scan should tell you if ther is any AP near you
[02:35] <mooey> kuzmaster, that will list the networks it knows
[02:35] <mooey> ^^
[02:35] <MagicFab_> nvez, gotta run - ask on #ubuntu-ca and I can come back in ~3hr
[02:35] <CanadianMan> greetings
[02:35] <peacekpr> does ubuntu have a native hard drive eraser that uses very secure algorithms (like US DOD or Gutmann algorithms)?
[02:35] <kuzmaster> mooey: ZOMG!!!!! it says no scan results
[02:36] <Lazirusienca> Hello
[02:36] <ozgurk> asdfjkahsdfjkha,
[02:36] <ozgurk> root@ozgur:/home/ozgur# ls -la /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[02:36] <ozgurk> -rw-r----- 1 root root 0 2007-01-06 12:26 /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[02:36] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> ?
[02:36] <mooey> !info wipe | peacekpr
[02:36] <ubotu> wipe: Secure file deletion. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.20-2 (edgy), package size 34 kB, installed size 120 kB
[02:36] <Lazirusienca> Greetings and all that stuff
[02:36] <ozgurk> sudo rm -rf /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[02:36] <Caranarq> Hi
[02:36] <ozgurk> sudo : super user
[02:36] <Caranarq> i'm new using ubuntu
[02:36] <Lazirusienca> Can someone help me with  my graphics card problem
[02:36] <kuzmaster> mooey: but my wireles is on, and the computer maybe like a meter away from the wireless router
[02:36] <Lazirusienca> me too
[02:36] <Caranarq> and woul like some help ....
[02:36] <liam> hello, i want to add a theme to kde? can someone please tell me where to put the files once downloaded? or what procedures to take?
[02:36] <peacekpr> mooey, hmm... i wonder if that is bootable
[02:36] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> I did that
[02:36] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> and it still does it
[02:36] <CanadianMan> i'm also new
[02:36] <n2diy> peacekpr: yes it does, but I don't recall what it is called, maybe you can find it with google?
[02:36] <peacekpr> mooey, thx for the info... i'll go research it
[02:36] <Admiral_Buttercr> apparently ive put my system into some sort of dev mode and it forces ubuntu to start up in BusyBox LECLI(Liniux Enviornment Command Line Interface) I have tried to learn the system but i have failed. I am unable to find out how to return to Ubuntu.
[02:36] <Lazirusienca> Im also canadian
[02:36] <mooey> peacekpr, bootable? :}
[02:36] <CanadianMan> :) awesome
[02:37] <Lazirusienca> Cha
[02:37] <peacekpr> mooey, cd bootable
[02:37] <Caranarq> yeah I suppose yhis is full of newbies ....
[02:37] <Caranarq> I have a question abut network
[02:37] <quasicolon> a torrent of requests! It's hard not to get lost in it all
[02:37] <mooey> kuzmaster, you could try setting it to a fixed access point and see if it works. i had todo that with my ralink wifi card before it would scan for networks
[02:37] <CanadianMan> i have a question should i jsut say it or wait?
[02:37] <Lazirusienca> I posted in the forums for help, but I think I screwed myself over
[02:37] <mooey> peacekpr, its a package, its not a bootable cd
[02:37] <capixaba> ozgurk: man... thanks a lot... I installed the ndiswrapper common... what must i do now?
[02:37] <dm> Anyone know anything about Kiba dock ?>
[02:37] <mooey> !ask > CanadianMan
[02:37] <petal> i know it is a security risk, but I'd like to use automatic login at boot & after wake-up from standby. I think the first is done via gdmsetup, but how do I accomplish the second?
[02:37] <peacekpr> well, i guess i could do an ubuntu live cd then apt-get install wipe and run it, then install ubuntu from live cd
[02:37] <Lazirusienca> anyone know ANYTHING about ATI RADEON 9200???
[02:37] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> ozgurk I did what you said with the ls command but it still does not work. I used su also
[02:37] <Caranarq> hahahahaha canadian
[02:37] <n2diy> ! ask
[02:37] <kuzmaster> mooey: how do i do that...?
[02:38] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:38] <CanadianMan> lol k
[02:38] <Caranarq> we have the same problem ...
[02:38] <mvfeinstein>  Hi can anyone in here help me, I have an ATI x850 and just installed xorg-driver-fglx and now when i run glxinfo it says that direct render is off. How can I turn it back on?
[02:38] <mooey> kuzmaster, system -> administration -> networking :-)
[02:38] <mooey> peacekpr, yea that should work
[02:38] <Lazirusienca> How do I install a working driver for my ati graphics card to play planeshift
[02:38] <liam> hello, i want to add a theme to kde? can someone please tell me where to put the files once downloaded? or what procedures to take?
[02:38] <capixaba> ozgurk: ?? what can I do now?
[02:38] <CanadianMan> is there away to open ports on your localhost?
[02:39] <Jordan_U> !ati | Lazirusienca
[02:39] <ubotu> Lazirusienca: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:39] <Admiral_Buttercr> Is there a channel for Command line specific problems?
[02:39] <capixaba> kitche: I installed the ndiswrapper-common... can we continuous?
[02:39] <kuzmaster> mooey: so, like putting in the ESSID in there?
[02:39] <Caranarq> See: My home LAN network works two windows XP and this Ububtu machine. I want a file from the XPs. Is there a way I can get that file into LINUX? The file is in one of Windows XP shared folders
[02:39] <petal> mvfeinstein: open a console & type 'lsmod' & look if you find fglry among the list...
[02:39] <dm> Anyone know anything about Kiba dock ?>
[02:39] <quasicolon> liam: try the #kde room Im not sure
[02:39] <mooey> kuzmaster, yup
[02:39] <Jordan_U> Admiral_Buttercr: #bash
[02:39] <Admiral_Buttercr> THANKYOU!
[02:39] <mooey> *fglrX
[02:39] <BackPacker> CanadianMan: All ports are open on Ubbuntu unless you firewall them off
[02:39] <quasicolon> Caranarq:  you can do that with samba
[02:39] <Lazirusienca> I need more help then that
[02:39] <CanadianMan> gotcha thank you
[02:39] <capixaba> kitche: man.. are u there?
[02:40] <capixaba> ozgurk: are u there?
[02:40] <mvfeinstein> petal fglrx is in there
[02:40] <Caranarq> thx quasicolon
[02:40] <ozgurk> capixaba, my sources.list past or link. your copy my sources.list you add /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:40] <mooey> mvfeinstein, is fglrx the driver in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[02:40] <Lazirusienca> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide I used this site to help me but im having problems
[02:40] <peacekpr> it's worth a shot, i suppose - i want to donate my old laptop and put ubuntu on it so it has a working operating system when I donate it
[02:40] <CanadianMan> when i nmap 127.0.0.1 it only comes up with 3 open ports should i not be using that?
[02:40] <quasicolon> but actually, on my network anyway, when i go to places>network servers, it lists my flatmates shared folders without me needing to do any trickery
[02:40] <capixaba> ozgurk: yeah... I did it.... and I installed the ndiswrapper-common... after what can i do... i need to run my wireless... help me man
[02:40] <mooey> peacekpr, i've used wipe to clean hard drives before, it works pretty well
[02:40] <Lazirusienca> Im having problems with the libGL file
[02:41] <kuzmaster> mooey: nope, excatly the same, but, like before, there was no delay, like, it diddnt seem to search for any networks
[02:41] <kitche> capixaba: see if you can sudo modprobe ndiswrapper now
[02:41] <mvfeinstein> mooey yes
[02:41] <mooey> mvfeinstein, anything on in your xorg log in /var/log?
[02:41] <peacekpr> mooey, okay... that's what i'm going to do, then - sounds like a plan... thanks for the suggestion ... i was searching sourceforge for projects, but i guess my search keywords weren't the greatest
[02:41] <Lazirusienca> Hey guys if it says I can't copy somethying somewhere becuase I dont have the permission to do so. what do I do?
[02:41] <ozgurk> hmm capixaba
[02:41] <BackPacker> CanadianMan: It's a good way to see what's open. And it also shows what's listening on those ports. When you know that you can decide what, if anything, to firewall off
[02:41] <ozgurk> please..
[02:42] <jakob> I got lirc working backpacker :D
[02:42] <mooey> kuzmaster, wierd. have you done a sudo ifup wlan0 ?
[02:42] <Jordan_U> !sudo | Lazirusienca
[02:42] <ubotu> Lazirusienca: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:42] <capixaba> kitche: this msg appear again man: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko': No such file or directory
[02:42] <n2diy> CandianMan: that is your loopback device, it doesn't talk to the outside world, but the system does need it,
[02:42] <BackPacker> jakob: Great! Glad to hear it. :-)
[02:42] <peacekpr> away i go...
[02:42] <petal> mvfeinstein: good. now open your xorg.conf (etc/X11/xorg.conf) and look for the section "Device"...It should say something about ATI... (if you have a ati card, that is...)
[02:42] <Dexter_> witam
[02:42] <capixaba> kitche: whats happening?
[02:42] <petal> mvfeinstein: In this section "Device" the second line should be 'driver'
[02:42] <jakob> backpacker, all I had to do was make a shortcut to /dev/ttyS0 and rename it /dev/lirc
[02:43] <kuzmaster> yeah
[02:43] <petal> mvfeinstein: Is the 'driver' set to 'fglrx' there?
[02:43] <Dimensions> does any one know abt vendor of  this Wlan USB ... UID is 18e8:6201
[02:43] <jakob> backpacker, do you know I make a shortcut in the console?
[02:43] <BackPacker> jakob: Hmmm.... Wonder why an IRC client needs a serial port...
[02:43] <linux_newbie2> if I want to create a RAID 1 setup on Ubuntu, and I want to share it under SAMBA, does it matter which filesystem I use on the drives?
[02:43] <Amadeo> So, I've read a few forum pages...edited my xorg.conf a bunch of times...the resolution shows up now, but my refresh rate just won't change...not really sure what to do at this point anymore
[02:43] <BackPacker> jakob: a shortcut to what?
[02:43] <kuzmaster> mooey: but when i did it again, it said this "wmaster0: unknown hardware address type 801"
[02:43] <jakob> backpacker, lirc is a program for infra red remote controls :P
[02:43] <mooey> Dimensions, you can look up the device on www.pcidatabase.com
[02:44] <mvfeinstein> mooey there is a lot anything i am looking for?
[02:44] <BackPacker> jakob: oh, OK, the 'irc' part is a little misleading
[02:44] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> Can anyone help me uninstall VSFTPD. When I do apt-get remove --purge vsftpd I get some errors.
[02:44] <mvfeinstein> petal the driver is already set to fglrx
[02:44] <mooey> kuzmaster, thats wierd. the forum is a great resource for solving issues with wifi devices, deffinatly worth a search there if you haven't already.
[02:44] <capixaba> kitche: ?
[02:44] <jakob> backpacker, the lirc file lircd was looking for was nothing but a shortcut to ttyS0. Do you know how I can make a shortcut in the console?
[02:44] <Jordan_U> Lazirusienca: Basically, run: gksudo nautilus to get a file browser window with privaleges to write to anywhere, but close it as soon as you are done because being able to delete anything on your system isn't always a good thing :) or use the mv or cp commands with "sudo " in front of them
[02:44] <BackPacker> jakob: To make a 'shortcut' or symlink as Linux calls them, you use the ln command. Do 'man ln' in a console for mor information
[02:44] <kaozinc> can someone tell me where all the files are stored that synaptic dloads?
[02:45] <mooey> mvfeinstein, something that starts EE and looks relevant i guess, you could pastebin the log?
[02:45] <mooey> !pastebin > mvfeinstein
[02:45] <jakob> backpacker, thanks, your help has really been great :)
[02:45] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> Can anyone help me uninstall VSFTPD. When I do apt-get remove --purge vsftpd I get some errors. I am running ubuntu server.
[02:45] <BackPacker> jakob: You're welcome :-)
[02:45] <n2diy> kaozinc: locate *.deb
[02:45] <petal> How do I set my X-Session in Ubuntu up so that I'm automatically logged back in without re-entering a password when the computer wakes up from Standby?
[02:45] <Jordan_U> kaozinc: Where the .deb files are or where the files it installs go?
[02:45] <CanadianMan> i'm installing mythtv .20 and it needs ports 6543 open on local host and when i do 'nmap localhost' it does not show it on
[02:46] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, what are the errors? (pastebin them)
[02:46] <Shadow_mil> petal: look in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[02:46] <Shadow_mil> o wait
[02:46] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, I dont know how I am running ubuntu server.
[02:46] <Shadow_mil> nvm
[02:46] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, Unable to qwrite to /var/cache/apt/ and the package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened
[02:46] <mooey> petal, if you turn off the locking when the screensaver activates (system -> preferences -> screensaver) does that do it?
[02:46] <dm> Anyone know of an APP that will sync Album art for ipod, ( automatically search for album art, then you sync it, without having to point to the file on your HDD>
[02:46] <BackPacker> CanadianMan: That's because nothing's listening on that port
[02:46] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, with the warning of not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[02:46] <kaozinc> ok when i open up synaptic and select a file to install and it says that xxx kb have to be dloaded.... where is that location
[02:47] <CanadianMan> ahhhhh ok
[02:47] <sandy16> the hostname is not being displayed in my terminal only i can see is dollor ($) at the prompt, any suggestions
[02:47] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, are you running apt-get remove with sudo?
[02:47] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> yes
[02:47] <Dimensions> mooey:  im lookin for usb devices the one u are saying are for PCI slots ?
[02:47] <BackPacker> sandy16: You need to set your prompt. You can set it up in ~/.bashrc
[02:47] <Jordan_U> petal: Go to System -> Preferences -> Screensaver and uncheck the box that says " lock when screensaver is active"
[02:47] <mooey> sandy16, check your permissions on ~/.bashrc
[02:48] <mooey> Dimensions, oops :$ ignore heh. its late :D
[02:48] <petal> mooey: No, the block/password-requester was already off...
[02:48] <mnk0> yo
[02:48] <mnk0> whatu p
[02:48] <capixaba> I need install my wirelles in my laptop in the ubuntu... can someone help me please?
[02:48] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, I am using su
[02:48] <petal> Jordan_U: That's not it - the block/password-requester was already set to 'Off'
[02:48] <ozgurk> capixaba, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/709/
[02:48] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, does any other apt process exist already? perhaps in an existing open or disconnected session?
[02:48] <mnk0> capixaba: have u googled for that wireless shit
[02:48] <dm> Anyone know of an APP that will sync Album art for ipod, ( automatically search for album art, then you sync it, without having to point to the file on your HDD> repeat
[02:48] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, how do I check?
[02:48] <mnk0> oh yea
[02:48] <kaozinc> so does anyone know where that temp location is?
[02:48] <ozgurk> capixaba, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/709/
[02:48] <PriceChild> !language | mnk0
[02:48] <ubotu> mnk0: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:49] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, hm. ps aux | grep apt
[02:49] <mnk0> ubotu: my bad
[02:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about my bad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:49] <CanadianMan> thank you now i understand
[02:49] <sandy16> BackPacker, mooey , thank you
[02:49] <n2diy> asdfjkahsdfjkha: sudo not su, they aren't the same.
[02:49] <petal> mvfeinstein: Stupid question, but have you restarted your system after you installed the fglrx-drivers?
[02:49] <mnk0> what differencee of su -i and sudo -i
[02:49] <vijay> hello
[02:49] <capixaba> ozgurk: thanks again... I will try it...
[02:49] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> n2diy, they both have the same error
[02:49] <mvfeinstein> mooey Here is the log http://pastebin.com/853201
[02:49] <mooey> mnk0,  one switches user, one performs another command as the super user
[02:49] <mvfeinstein> petal yes
[02:50] <kaozinc> !synaptic storage location
[02:50] <ubotu> synaptic: Graphical package manager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.57.11ubuntu12 (edgy), package size 1032 kB, installed size 5420 kB
[02:50] <n2diy> asdfjkahsdfjkha: ok?
[02:50] <kaozinc> bah
[02:50] <BackPacker> mnk0: Also, sudo logs who has used it and which command they used
[02:50] <mnk0> oh k
[02:50] <capixaba> ozgurk: what is it? locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: Arquivo ou diretrio no encontrado
[02:50] <linux_newbie2> can anyone recommend a graphical partition manager?  The "Disks" window doesn't seem to let you create new partitions...
[02:50] <Jordan_U> sandy16: are You using Bash or another shell? ( sh in Edgy is NOT bash )
[02:50] <mooey> kaozinc, probably somewhere in /var/lib/dpkg?
[02:50] <capixaba> ozgurk: locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: Arquivo ou diretrio no encontrado
[02:50] <BackPacker> linux_newbie2: gparted
[02:50] <mooey> !gparted
[02:50] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[02:50] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, when I type that it says 5306 0.0 0.1 2884 796 ttyl R+ 19:49 0:00
[02:51] <capixaba> ozgurk: locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: file or directory not found
[02:51] <linux_newbie2> thanks BackPacker, mooey
[02:51] <petal> mvfeinstein: Do you still have that xorg.conf file open?
[02:51] <mvfeinstein> petal I know that driver is working because I am getting res above 1024x768 but before I did the install direct render was on and now it is off for some reason
[02:51] <mvfeinstein> petal yes
[02:51] <sandy16> mooey, BackPacker i have .bashrc as 755 , eventhough it is not working
[02:51] <sandy16> ??
[02:51] <mdfrostt> all: just installed boinc 5.8.1 into /usr/BOINC and have an interesting problem.  if I run the program by typing "./boincmgr" from the /usr/BOINC directory, it connects to localhost and everything works well; however, if I type "/usr/BOINC/boincmgr" it won't connect to my machine.  any ideas?
[02:51] <Jordan_U> mvfeinstein: Edgy or Dapper?
[02:51] <petal> mvfeinstein: Scroll down to its ending
[02:51] <mvfeinstein> Jordan_U Edgy
[02:52] <mooey> mvfeinstein, wierd. no errors. still glxinfo says direct rendering: no ?
[02:52] <BackPacker> sandy16: mine's 644
[02:52] <petal> mvfeinstein: Is there something like " Option "Composite" "false" "
[02:52] <n2diy> sandy16: why do you say it isn't working?
[02:52] <Jordan_U> mvfeinstein: You need to disable composit most likely
[02:52] <ozgurk> capixaba, what is compile ?
[02:52] <BackPacker> sandy16: it doesn't need the x bits set
[02:52] <petal> mvfeinstein: If not, try to add the following line(s) to your xorg.conf at its end:
[02:52] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, wierd. perhaps the lock file has not been removed or something. im not sure how to check though, sorry.
[02:52] <Lazirusienca> whoot! yay
[02:52] <di||itante> mdfrostt, add /usr/BOINC/ to your path
[02:52] <Lazirusienca> games working now
[02:53] <petal> mvfeinstein: Section "Extensions"
[02:53] <Lazirusienca> Anyone play planeshift?
[02:53] <petal> mvfeinstein: Option "Composite" "false"
[02:53] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, try removing /var/lib/dpkg/lock or something
[02:53] <mvfeinstein> mooey the only error I saw was about aiglx. Direct render still says no and I just noticed this Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:53] <sandy16> and also when i use arrows (up/down) for history , iam getting this :  $ ^[[A^[[A^[[B
[02:53] <petal> mvfeinstein: EndSection
[02:53] <di||itante> mdfrostt, doh, nevermind
[02:53] <mvfeinstein> petal no
[02:53] <capixaba> ozgurk: compile?
[02:53] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, it tells me its a read only system file
[02:53] <ozgurk> locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: file or directory not found
[02:53] <Lazirusienca> ANywho im gonna go, thanks for the help.
[02:53] <petal> mvfeinstein: Then put the three lines that I just posted there
[02:53] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, are you /sure/ you are root?
[02:53] <ozgurk> where error message?
[02:53] <petal> mvfeinstein: And restart your X-Server
[02:54] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, just logged in as root and tried it and says the same thing
[02:54] <mooey> mvfeinstein, i've had that before. there was a solution burried in the forums. i think it had todo with having the right settings in xorg.conf as petal was saying.
[02:54] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, can you write any files on the filesystem?
[02:54] <petal> the fglrx-driver has some problems in edgy
[02:54] <Jordan_U> asdfjkahsdfjkha: What problem are you having? ( it is hard to follow things right now :)
[02:54] <mooey> Jordan_U, apt whines when trying to remove the package vsftpd
[02:54] <kaozinc> Jordan_U can i PM you we were talking the other nite about an ati vid card... my nick at the time was kaoz
[02:55] <capixaba> ozgurk: i didnt understand
[02:55] <ozgurk> capixaba, where issue error message?
[02:55] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, no I cannot
[02:55] <mvfeinstein> petal mooey ok I just added those lines going to reboot brb
[02:55] <mdfrostt> di||itante: hadn't considered that (especially because I haven't a clue how to change the search path in linux).  since you said "nevermind" later, should I take it that that wouldn't work anyway?
[02:55] <bryanl> the ubuntu mirrors are way slower than i remember... any way i can speed up apt-get updates?
[02:55] <Caranarq> now, how do I intall Samba???????
[02:55] <petal> mvfeinstein: Good luck
[02:55] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, even in your home directory?
[02:55] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> jordan_u, vsftpd stopped working after I rebooted. I tried googling for 30 mintues hwo to fix it with the errors I was getting. Then I just decided to remove it, and it isnt working
[02:55] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, yes
[02:55] <Jordan_U> kaozinc: Sure, I have to allow unregged users to pm me first though so wait a second ( By default I don't see messages from unregged users )
[02:55] <cybercod> caranqrq... synaptic package manager has it... smb
[02:55] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, either you are not root or your file system is mounted read only
[02:56] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, root@hlds:
[02:56] <di||itante> mdfrostt, right
[02:56] <capixaba> ozgurk: yeah
[02:56] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, did you mount the fs as readonly ? if not, check the logs (dmesg) as it may have had an error and remounted itself read only to protect it
[02:56] <mdfrostt> di||itante: nuts.  any other ideas?
[02:56] <amir> !rpm
[02:56] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[02:56] <Caranarq> i don't have the synaptic PM... not under system>administration
[02:57] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, All I did was reboot man, it was working PERFECT before that...
[02:57] <capixaba> ozgurk: in the first apt-get and second to
[02:57] <capixaba> too
[02:57] <aivijay> hello
[02:57] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, :( check the logs
[02:57] <di||itante> mdfrostt, no, seems strange. did you have another version running at some other time
[02:58] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, I just typed dmesg and it has all these device lookup failed lines but I cannot scroll up since im on text based
[02:58] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, use less. type into a console: dmesg | less
[02:58] <mooey> and then you can page up and down
[02:58] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> dmesg | less
[02:58] <mooey> yea
[02:59] <mdfrostt> di||itante: yes, I had the fully supported version 5.4.11, but I needed the advanced functionality provided in the 5.8.1 beta version.  I thought I completely removed any remnants of the old version, though.
[02:59] <jewbilee> How do i find out what wireless card i have?
[02:59] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, am I looking for anything in particular?
[02:59] <mooey> jewbilee, lspci
[02:59] <bef_ubuntu> command for changing apt sources ?
[03:00] <di||itante> mdfrostt, im guessing there is something left somewhere from the old version. possible a hidden dir in your home dir
[03:00] <mooey> !sources | bef_ubuntu
[03:00] <ubotu> bef_ubuntu: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:00] <Caranarq> hmmm ... how can I know if I have administrative acces???
[03:00] <cybercod> caranarq.. you still need help with samba?
[03:00] <Caranarq> yeah ...
[03:00] <ozgurk> capixaba, past your locale command
[03:00] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, just something that says the file system was mounted readonly. thats assuming its not set to be read only in /etc/fstab ?
[03:00] <Caranarq> I can't install it
[03:00] <cybercod> caranarq     http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605&highlight=howto+samba   that got me going
[03:01] <mooey> Caranarq, in the console if your prompt ends in $ you are a user. if it ends with # you are root (admin) user. you can use sudo to run root commands as a $ user
[03:01] <jewbilee> mooey: If it says I have a broadcom BCM4306, which driver do i need for ndiswrapper?
[03:01] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, in fstab it says errors=remount-ro
[03:01] <cybercod> jewbilee... try driverguide.com for drivers
[03:02] <jewbilee> ok
[03:02] <mooey> jewbilee, i think there are native drivers for that chipset?
[03:02] <n2diy> BackPacker: he ought to be done soon, it has been nearly an hour.
[03:02] <petal> mvfeinstein: Had any luck?
[03:02] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, so when you write or save a file, what does it say? can't write to read only file system?
[03:02] <mdfrostt> di||itante: home is clear.  the thing that really confuses me is that both commands SHOULD be running the exact same file.  one uses the fully path, and the other runs the program in the current directory, which is /usr/BOINC.
[03:02] <cybercod> there are for broadcom... they don't "just work" though
[03:02] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey yez
[03:02] <mvfeinstein> petal yes it worked thanks for the help.... Now I just have to decide if I want to try to install beryl again..
[03:02] <cybercod> often its easier to disable them and use ndiswrapper
[03:03] <jewbilee> mooey: what do you mean?
[03:03] <jewbilee> mooey: do i still ned ndiswrapper?
[03:03] <cybercod> i've had to deal with broadcom on two laptops
[03:03] <di||itante> mdfrostt, yeah, its wierd
[03:03] <BackPacker> n2diy: I can't wait any longer, it's 2am here... See you around
[03:03] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, the hostname was hlds, if its a rented server i would get your host to shut the box down and run a file system check and then reboot it
[03:03] <capixaba> ozgurk: somethings I dont understand
[03:03] <petal> mvfeinstein: Great! Glad I could help... Beryl is cool - give it a try! Feels like a whole new OS! :)
[03:03] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, no the box is sitting next to me
[03:03] <di||itante> try updating the db database and searching for BOINC
[03:03] <lmd> http://www.ubuntu-es.org/index.php?q=forum/34 --> shoutcast
[03:03] <n2diy> BackPacker: roger that, I'm out of here in 30 minutes.
[03:04] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, run an fsck and reboot :-)
[03:04] <mdfrostt> di||itante: thanks for your help.  I'm going to go pick some brains elsewhere.  thanks again
[03:04] <capixaba> ozgurk: ipw2200 not found
[03:04] <di||itante> mdfrostt, good luck
[03:04] <capixaba> ozgurk: E: Couldn't find package ipw2200-source
[03:04] <mooey> jewbilee, i dont know alot about the broadcom chipsets, but as i understand it there is a driver already in ubuntu for that card
[03:04] <jewbilee> hmmm
[03:04] <mvfeinstein> petal I tried to install it yesterday and messed up my system so much that I reinstalled.... Would you happen to know where I can find a good how for ati+edgy+beryl? Or an easy way to do it?
[03:05] <mooey> mvfeinstein, theres some good guides for ati on the ubuntu forums, and for beryl on the beryl forums
[03:05] <capixaba> ozgurk: man?
[03:05] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey,  I did that and its still r/o
[03:05] <mvfeinstein> mooey is there any all inclusive that is easy to follow? I went through a lot of them and it really screw up my display last night
[03:06] <Caranarq> Many thanks!!!!
[03:06] <ozgurk> capixaba,
[03:06] <Caranarq> see ya!!!
[03:06] <ozgurk> #module-assistant command
[03:06] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, does 'sudo mount -a' remount it was read write?
[03:06] <petal> mvfeinstein: Indeed I do! http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=290841
[03:06] <capixaba> ozgurk: E: Couldn't find package ipw2200-source
[03:06] <mooey> mvfeinstein, its a sod :( the one on the wiki should be good
[03:06] <petal> mvfeinstein: This one worked like a charm for me (also using an ATI card...)
[03:06] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, no
[03:06] <linuxgoober> can someone point me to a link on how to make my own repository?
[03:06] <ozgurk> capixaba, please your console (terminal) in command module-assistant
[03:07] <mooey> mvfeinstein, i found it easier to install the drivers from ati.com than the ubuntu packaged ones. there is also a repository which has easy install and up to date ati drivers but i dont remember its name, sorry
[03:07] <ozgurk> your install module-assistant ?
[03:07] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, then im out of ideas, sorry. it certainly sounds like your file system is broken :(
[03:07] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, that at least is the root cause of not being able to remove vsftpd, heh.
[03:08] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, well shit.. is there any way I can retrieve some files I have stored on here before I reformat?
[03:08] <capixaba> ozgurk: I typed it... and choose(choise)  ipw2200... and after... I tried install...then... this msg appear in my terminal
[03:08] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, if you can read them thats great, you can blip them over the network with scp if you have ssh access to the machine
[03:08] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, I dont think I ever setup ssh, or do you haft to?
[03:09] <petal> mvfeinstein: Btw, no matter what you do with Beryl... You SHOULD always have the possibility to go back to your GDM Login screen and chose a normal Gnome session there...
[03:09] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, ah. you have to install the openssh-server package :(
[03:09] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, hm. usb stick?
[03:09] <petal> mvfeinstein: I'm off now - Good luck with your 3d-Acc.!
[03:10] <mvfeinstein> petal thanks for the help
[03:10] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, OOOOO I have one!!!! Do I have to manually mount it?
[03:10] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, does it appear in /media when you plug it in? :}
[03:11] <riotkittie> hm. i feel the need to learn how to do something but i dont know what
[03:11] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, all I see is cdrom cdrom0 floppy floppy0
[03:11] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, then yea you will have to mount it manually :~~)
[03:12] <n2diy> riotkittie: teach me how to change keyboard layouts in a console?
[03:12] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, how would I go about that?
[03:12] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, the last dmesg output when you plugged it in should lead you to the device name (something like /dev/sdb1 or simmilar) then you can mkdir /media/usbstick; mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/usbstick
[03:13] <mooey> the exact command depends on the device and the file system its formatted with
[03:13] <riotkittie> n2diy >> sudo loadkeys /usr/share/keymaps/<dir>/<dir> for a temporary change
[03:13] <riotkittie> uhmmmm i forgot how i made mine permanent
[03:14] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> I see like scsi device sda
[03:14] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> ;
[03:14] <n2diy> riotkittie: hmmm, I've been looking for that for six years, I'll take a look. Thanks.
[03:14] <mooey> riotkittie, you could learn how to turn water into wine :~)
[03:14] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, thats probably it
[03:14] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, the usb mass storage device driver uses the scsi subsystem
[03:15] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> by the way I cant create the folder
[03:15] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> its read only
[03:15] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> remember
[03:15] <mooey> heh yer
[03:15] <riotkittie> maybe it was sudo dpkg-reconfigure xkeyboard-reconfigure    . hm.
[03:16] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, do I haft to make the folder for me to mount it?
[03:16] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, mount it in /mount/floppy0 :}
[03:16] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, if you can make a folder in /tmp, do it therr
[03:16] <mooey> *there
[03:16] <riotkittie> mooey >> already know how to turn water into wine
[03:16] <mooey> */media/floppy0
[03:17] <n2diy> riotkittie: I'm on the loadkeys man page, this is what I'm looking for. I Know how to do it with X running, but not from a CLI.
[03:17] <mooey> riotkittie, lol. something more challenging then. wine to vodka? :}
[03:17] <NoEvidenZ> Ok, I feel like a complete moron asking this, but through the terminal, how do I make it delete a folder and everything in it?
[03:17] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, omg I am so confized
[03:17] <cybercod> isn't there a way to burn from CLI?  perhaps you could just burn a disk
[03:17] <mooey> NoEvidenZ, rm -rf will remove everything. its best to remove everything in a folder and then rmdir the folder so that you don't delete something you didn't want to delete
[03:17] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, hold on like 2 minutes ill brb I need to go outside for a second
[03:17] <n2diy> add grapes!
[03:18] <linuxgoober> NoEvidenZ rm -R /path/to/directory
[03:18] <mooey> NoEvidenZ, we are friendly :~) never be embarrased to ask. we all have to learn
[03:18] <riotkittie> n2diy >> yeah but there's something else that will make the change permanent. if i recall correctly loadkeys only works until you log out and then it resets
[03:18] <awenasidilisome> hey all
[03:18] <ryanakca> mako: ping
[03:18] <riotkittie> it's probably in the man
[03:18] <NoEvidenZ> linuxgoober: Thanks :P
[03:18] <linuxgoober> thats what we're all here for
[03:18] <riotkittie> i rarely read them <hangs head in shame>
[03:18] <NoEvidenZ> mooey: Thanks. It's not that I'm embarassed, it's that I should know. >.>
[03:18] <mooey> NoEvidenZ, :~)
[03:19] <n2diy> riotkittie: No, no, this fine, I don't want permanent change.
[03:19] <riotkittie> n2diy, ah ok then :)
[03:19] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, gone for a cigarette break? :p
[03:20] <n2diy> riotkittie: I'm toying with the idea of a terminal kiosk, and a script to let users select there keyboard, so this is perfect.
[03:20] <NoEvidenZ> Some days I'm all "I'm awesome! I'm learning Linux!" and others I'm like "It's all too hard!"
[03:20] <riotkittie> ahhh that's cool, n2diy
[03:20] <mooey> NoEvidenZ, it is certainly worth the effort to learn
[03:20] <linuxgoober> yeah... i feel the pain NoEvidenZ
[03:20] <riotkittie> NoEvidenZ, meee too
[03:20] <adub> anyone get monitor mode to work with atheros wireless cards ??
[03:21] <NoEvidenZ> Heh, I know it's worth learning, that's why I haven't given up yet.
[03:21] <mooey> good on ya :~~)
[03:21] <riotkittie> i started with slackware 9. then moved in with my husband and was forced to go back to xp.
[03:21] <mooey> divorce tbh >_>
[03:21] <riotkittie> hahahahaha
[03:21] <mooey> :)
[03:21] <aivijay_> guys am trying to setup wireless network in adhoc mode to make a peer to peer connection with my other laptop
[03:21] <NoEvidenZ> riotkittie: Girls learning computers?! What next? We'll let them VOTE?! *smirks*
[03:22] <NoEvidenZ> riotkittie: Ignore me, I'm a bad person.
[03:22] <aivijay_> can i get some doc which can help me out on this
[03:22] <riotkittie> hahaha. i like bad people. they tend to be more fun than the "good" ones ;)
[03:22] <biggahed_> i miss my slack. But now im too lazy to go back
[03:22] <mikedoty> I just had to reinstall ubuntu.  Not too bad, but now I need to get my video driver installed for my Geforce4 MX, since right now I'm limited to 640x480 resolution.
[03:22] <mooey> aivijay_, the forums are a great place to find instructions. or the ubuntu wiki. or the linux documentation project.
[03:22] <aivijay_> i am able to configure the wireless and am also able to get the list of other wireless networks near
[03:22] <mikedoty> Do I want ... nvidia-glx as my driver?
[03:22] <NoEvidenZ> aivijay_: I can't offer you docs, but I can offer you my best wishes.
[03:22] <CDION> hola alguien habla espaol??
[03:22] <aivijay_> but i dont know how to use it and start communicating
[03:22] <mikedoty> That is what I installed, but I still can't access 1024x768
[03:23] <merolhack> hola
[03:23] <NoEvidenZ> Oh, while I'm in here.. My xserver keeps crashing on start up.
[03:23] <CanadianMan> how do i mount a device at boot up
[03:23] <n2diy> ! es
[03:23] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:23] <merolhack> yo hablo spanglish
[03:23] <riotkittie> i really wanted to install slack but when i finally got my own computer, i had no discs to burn it too. and then i was like "ahhhh, i am too stupid!"
[03:23] <mooey> CDION, #ubuntu-es
[03:23] <mooey> CanadianMan, with /etc/fstab
[03:23] <mooey> !fstab
[03:23] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[03:23] <cybercod> mikedoty... have you heard of envy?
[03:23] <CanadianMan> thank you mooey
[03:23] <NoEvidenZ> Actually, I'll get some information about it dying, then i'll ask for help.
[03:24] <mikedoty> I don't think so cybercod, though maybe I just don't remember it
[03:24] <riotkittie> i installed zenwalk which is slacked based the other day.  apt has ruined me :P
[03:24] <linuxgoober> how do i make a .deb from a .tar.gz source package?
[03:24] <cybercod> mikedoty... its a very awesome script for installing nvidia proprietary drivers
[03:24] <cybercod> debian package
[03:24] <aivijay_> anyone, how do u set up an adhoc net work and communicate to two machines
[03:24] <cybercod> hang on... i'll get you the page
[03:25] <jrib> linuxgoober: to do it the right way, read the tutorial at help.ubuntu.com about packaging.  Or use checkinstall
[03:25] <mikedoty> Oh yeah, now I do vaguely recall that from a couple months ago when i first installed ubuntu
[03:25] <mooey> linuxgoober, checkinstall will do it
[03:25] <jrib> !checkinstall | linuxgoober
[03:25] <ubotu> linuxgoober: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[03:25] <JustNew> Hi. Ive got an external hardrive that Ubuntu has mounted automatically. I'd like to be able to put files onto it but the system says that it is a "read only disk". any ideas?
[03:25] <linuxgoober> can i make a repository on my website for it?
[03:25] <edburns> Hey, this was a really nice install.
[03:25] <edburns> I like Ubuntu so far.
[03:25] <biggahed_> i only tried ubuntu because its a polished apt using distro. I needed to try apt. But now that im using it, i must say its no as amazing as i though
[03:25] <NoEvidenZ> Can anyone tell me how to check system logs so I can get some information about my xserver crashing on start up?
[03:25] <mooey> JustNew, you should make sure that the file system its formatted with is one that ubuntu can read and write to nativly. perhaps its ntfs.
[03:26] <edburns> However, it doesn't come with xemacs pre-installed.
[03:26] <cybercod> mikedoty http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[03:26] <riotkittie> my husband keeps looking at my laptop when im in ubuntu or zen and going "wow, thats cool"  ... but he wont let me touch his desktop ;/
[03:26] <edburns> What's the easiest way to install xemacs on a stock Ubuntu system (6.10)
[03:26] <JustNew> it is ntfs im quite sure
[03:26] <mooey> NoEvidenZ, check Xorg.log in /var/log
[03:26] <NoEvidenZ> mooey: Thanks
[03:26] <riotkittie> i only went with ubuntu because ship-it sent me discs  ;p
[03:26] <jrib> edburns: sudo apt-get install xemacs21
[03:26] <n2diy> edburns: welcome aboard, click on system/admin/synaptic, and go get Xemacs.
[03:26] <NoEvidenZ> riotkittie: You using Edgy?
[03:26] <riotkittie> NoEvidenZ >> nope, i'm using Dapper
[03:26] <edburns> Ahhh, ubuntu use apt-get.
[03:26] <NoEvidenZ> riotkittie: Aw. I was gonna suggest you get Beryl.
[03:27] <n2diy> riotkittie:  is a smart kittie.
[03:27] <NoEvidenZ> Hell, I'm using Feisty.
[03:27] <JustNew> mooney: yes, my hardrive is NTFS, but so are my windows partitions
[03:27] <jrib> edburns: yeah, you can use synaptic too like n2diy suggested if you want a gui
[03:27] <cybercod> i tend to wait for you gurus to work out the bugs
[03:27] <cybercod> leading edge = bug infested
[03:27] <riotkittie> i am going to repartition  and i might put Edgy on then, once my 2k partition is gone
[03:27] <mooey> JustNew, there is experimental write support for ntfs
[03:27] <mooey> !ntfs-3g | JustNew
[03:27] <ubotu> JustNew: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[03:27] <JustNew> ok col
[03:27] <linuxgoober> leading edge linux is less bug infested than windows xp with all the updates
[03:28] <JustNew> thanks
[03:28] <NoEvidenZ> Haha
[03:28] <covOPprometheus> hey guys, can anyone name me one simple to use video converter with a GUI for ubuntu/gnome ?
[03:28] <n2diy> cybercod: leading edge = bleeding edge, and I don't like bleeding.
[03:28] <cybercod> agreed linuxgoober... thats why I'm still using xp SP1
[03:28] <awenasidilisome> anyone know what program i would need to edit stuff on a cellphone so that i can have my own start up sound
[03:28] <awenasidilisome> ?
[03:28] <NoEvidenZ> I'm using Feisty because GAIM in Dapper kept crashing and Edgy wouldn't boot on my system.
[03:28] <fami_> moto4lin
[03:28] <simulacra> Anyone have any good suggestions for a FOSS disk image distribution system?
[03:28] <NoEvidenZ> And I wanted Beryl.
[03:28] <cybercod> i don't trust anything from MS unless its been out for 3 years
[03:28] <riotkittie> i  never really had probs with xp.
[03:28] <mooey> simulacra, can you expand a bit?
[03:28] <linuxgoober> i don't trust ms
[03:28] <linuxgoober> period
[03:28] <simulacra> sure
[03:29] <want2ubunt2> Noobie Question: Can you tell the installer in 6.06 where to install GRUB?
[03:29] <edburns> n2diy: When I do that, and search for "xemacs" I only see 4 packages in the upper right pane, and none of them are xemacs
[03:29] <Jordan_U> NoEvidenZ: Are you useing Edgy and what type of card do you have?
[03:29] <simulacra> an alternative to Norton Ghoist is the best way to describe it
[03:29] <biggahed_> well i got some crashing problems with *buntu... xubuntu, that is. The screensaver just makes me restart my box. Cool, huh?
[03:29] <aivijay_> anyone who can tell me how i use a adhoc wireless network and connect to it and make both the machines communicate
[03:29] <cybercod> only problems I've ever had were usually self inflicted, but I tend to think I'd have more of them if I kept it up to date
[03:29] <NoEvidenZ> Jordan_U: Not using Edgy.
[03:29] <edburns> n2diy: Is there some way to make it display non installed packages?
[03:29] <cybercod> I was driven to linux by my inherent distrust of M$
[03:30] <NoEvidenZ> Jordan_U: I'm using Feisty Fawn and what type of card doy ou mean?
[03:30] <n2diy> edburns: what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[03:30] <riotkittie> yeah, xp updates wreak serious havoc on a box
[03:30] <cybercod> thats always first step... disabling them
[03:30] <edburns> n2diy: I just installed the very latest (6.10)
[03:30] <edburns> Maybe that's called Edgy?
[03:30] <edburns> Not sure
[03:30] <riotkittie> my husbands up to date 2.8ghz p4\512mb ram loads xp three times slower than my 750mhz laptop does
[03:30] <cybercod> has gnome gui changed much from dapper to edgy?
[03:31] <NoEvidenZ> Windows update turned my copied xp into legit XP.
[03:31] <riotkittie> err loaded.
[03:31] <n2diy> edburns: ok, I don't know if this will work for you, but is there an advanced tap you can select?
[03:31] <Jordan_U> want2ubunt2: You can with Edgy, if you can't in dapper it is always possible from the termial
[03:31] <Jordan_U> *terminal
[03:31] <awenasidilisome> fami_ moto4lin...what?
[03:31] <craig-griffis_> what repo can I get rar from ?
[03:31] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, ok im back
[03:31] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, howdy
[03:32] <cybercod> craig-griffis... automatix2 can give you rar support (and a bunch of other stuff
[03:32] <covOPprometheus> hey guys, can anyone name me one simple to use video converter with a GUI for ubuntu/gnome ?
[03:32] <mooey> simulacra, hm. im not sure to be honest, its not something i've ever looked for. freshmeat.net might be a good place to start a hunt for it though. im sure such a tool exists.
[03:32] <craig-griffis_> Yeah a bunch of other stuff I don't want
[03:32] <fami_> awenasidilisome, moto4lin is a good program to edit your cellphone
[03:32] <jrib> !info rar | craig-griffis_
[03:32] <ubotu> rar: Archiver for .rar files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.1-1 (edgy), package size 239 kB, installed size 472 kB (Only available for i386)
[03:32] <jrib> craig-griffis_: multiverse it seems
[03:32] <riotkittie> covOPprometheus, whats the fun in simple to use? :P
[03:32] <simulacra> thank mooey
[03:32] <fami_> awenasidilisome, check the forums for some FAQs on how to use it. I know that you have to run it as root for it to work properly
[03:32] <cybercod> cov0   you wanna do dvd's?
[03:32] <awenasidilisome> fami_ oh i'm at a site that supposedly has it but i'm not sure what computer to put it on
[03:32] <jakob> what is the equivalent of autoexec.bat in ubuntu?
[03:32] <mvfeinstein> beryl: SmcOpenConnection failed: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[03:33] <craig-griffis_> Hmmm (Only available for i386)    x64 here
[03:33] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, :P ok you want me to type like "sudo mkdir */media/floppy0; mount -t vfat /dev/sda */media/floppy0 " ?
[03:33] <Aggort> Does anyone in here know why Windows would need the Windows Install CD to be in the CD drive to boot, though it doesn't actually boot the CD?
[03:33] <fami_> awenasidilisome, what do you mean?
[03:33] <Gartral> !rar
[03:33] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[03:33] <Aggort> I need this error fixed big time
[03:33] <awenasidilisome> fami_ should i run it on ubuntu or kubuntu or maybe the mac
[03:33] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, one step at a time. first see if you can make a folder in /tmp to mount it on
[03:33] <n2diy> edburns: ?
[03:33] <glorinha> ohullllllllllllllllllll
[03:33] <riotkittie> Aggort, > youre not getting some kind of error message with the demand for the disc?
[03:33] <jakob> aggort have you tried fixboot and fixmbr?
[03:33] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, no its read only
[03:34] <fami_> awenasidilisome, I used it on GNOME ubuntu
[03:34] <glorinha> rodrigoooooooooo
[03:34] <Aggort> ritokittoe: No
[03:34] <fami_> awenasidilisome, Kubuntu should have an app called KMobile or something liek that.
[03:34] <glorinha> eta karalhuuuuuuuuuuuu
[03:34] <simulacra> aGGORT, SOUNDS like your BIOS is set boot from the CD only. Start there
[03:34] <Aggort> jakob: No, isn't that under recovery console in windows?
[03:34] <NoEvidenZ> Aggort: Type the first few letters and hit tab.
[03:34] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, I dont have a floopy drive. But it is still in the mount folder
[03:34] <mikedoty> I thought envy had killed my computer
[03:34] <Aggort> simulacra: If I change it to hard drive, nothing boots at all!
[03:34] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, in which case just mount it in /media/floppy0 or something :)
[03:35] <cybercod> mikedoty ???
[03:35] <jakob> aggort, yes it is. I had a similar problem because of grub, fixmbr and fixboot did it for me.
[03:35] <Aggort> NoEvidenZ: What?
[03:35] <simulacra> aha, corrupted MBR
[03:35] <NoEvidenZ> Never mind.
[03:35] <Aggort> Jakob: I can't boot to recovery console!
[03:35] <mikedoty> I ran it in a terminal and chose "install"
[03:35] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, mount -t vfat /dev/??? /media/floppy0
[03:35] <mikedoty> Then it crashed me, and when I tried to reboot it froze to a black screen
[03:35] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, where ??? is the device from dmesg
[03:35] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda
[03:35] <simulacra> You can fix that from recovery consol =, but its been ages since I have done that
[03:35] <Aggort> Jakob: This is happening w/o grub
[03:35] <mikedoty> But now I'm back how it was
[03:35] <craig-griffis_> jrib, Yeah but not 64 bit.  I have multiverse
[03:35] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, i would be surprised if it was sda, but try sda1 or something
[03:35] <awenasidilisome> fami_ i'll try and get it but right now i have to work on this stupid MS 2k pc
[03:35] <jakob> aggort does it give you a reason?
[03:35] <awenasidilisome> fami_ any other programs that might be useful
[03:35] <cybercod> mikedoty  did you follow all the instructions? open up repos?
[03:36] <Aggort> jakob: No
[03:36] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, im assuming that the usb stick has been formatted on another machine? if it was windows it will be vfat
[03:36] <Aggort> Jakob: it just boots to it
[03:36] <Aggort> I am about to make a video showing what it does
[03:36] <jrib> craig-griffis_: correct, there is unrar though if you don't need to create them
[03:36] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, ok I think that worked, is there a way I can zip a while directory and send the output file into /media/floppy0 ?
[03:36] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> whole*
[03:36] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> gzip tar or whatever
[03:37] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, tar -crf /media/floppy0/archive.tar /home/folder (i think)
[03:37] <Aggort> If I could boot to recovery console I wouldn't have any problem
[03:37] <riotkittie> woo. i cant wait to see this video :P
[03:37] <Aggort> Please help as this is also effecting GRUB and my Windows/Ubuntu experience
[03:37] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, you may not specify more than one '-Acdtrux' option.............................................. I am going to kill something
[03:37] <jakob> aggort have you tried a bootdisk? as in floppy.
[03:37] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, you will need to umount /media/floppy0 and then eject /dev/sda before you pull out the usb stick or it might not write the files to it
[03:38] <Aggort> Jakob: I don't have one
[03:38] <craig-griffis_> jrib, I only need it for dvd::rip
[03:38] <jrib> Aggort: try ##windows
[03:38] <Aggort> ?
[03:38] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, check the man page for tar then :~) im not sure of which options to use
[03:38] <awenasidilisome> fami_ moto4lin i just realized is for motorola
[03:38] <awenasidilisome> fami_ i use cingular
[03:38] <cybercod> craig-griffis   i use acidrip
[03:38] <craig-griffis_> jrib, it'll work with out no big
[03:38] <jakob> jrib, does ubuntu have an equivalent of autoexec.bat?
[03:38] <mikedoty> It never gave me instructions, just a menu that I saw
[03:38] <Aggort> jakob: I know I can boot from a floppy though
[03:38] <mikedoty> I have all my repositories (multi/uni) enabled
[03:38] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> cannot create a temp filename read only
[03:38] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> AGH
[03:38] <awenasidilisome> fami_ but maybe kmobile will work with cingular
[03:38] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, perhaps tar -cvf
[03:38] <jrib> jakob: what do you want the alternative to do?
[03:38] <craig-griffis_> cybercod, Acid wont do whole dvd's menu and every thing
[03:39] <edburns> jrib: Package xemacs21 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:39] <fami_> awenasidilisome, Try kmobile
[03:39] <cybercod> craig... tru... i don't use that stuff
[03:39] <jakob> jrib, I have a few lines I'd like to have added.
[03:39] <jrib> edburns: you need to enable universe
[03:39] <NoEvidenZ> How do I use the Python scripting interface in xchat? O.o
[03:39] <jrib> !universe | edburns
[03:39] <Aggort> jakob: Where can I get a boot disk? Just look on google?
[03:39] <ubotu> edburns: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:39] <cybercod> mikedoty... it died in the middle of it?
[03:39] <Aggort> jakob: what would I need, anything to fix this issue please lol
[03:39] <fami_> awenasidilisome, Look up some SEEM editor FAQs, too. That's how you change a lot of the stuff.
[03:39] <NoEvidenZ> Oh, hang on.. Never mind.
[03:39] <jakob> aggort, yes google bootdisk. That should do it
[03:40] <awenasidilisome> fami_ i will once i get this MS 2k pc fixed
[03:40] <jrib> jakob: do you want thing to run at boot time or can they run as your user when you log in?
[03:40] <jakob> jrib, I'd like this to be added in the boot sudo ln -s /dev/ttyS0 /dev/lirc | sudo lircd
[03:40] <Aggort> Jakob: What should I look for?
[03:40] <craig-griffis_> dvd::rip seems to be the only true dvdshrink like program for Linux, please tell me if I'm wrong.
[03:40] <rbil> jakob: http://customdesign.homelinux.net/nilug/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=48&Itemid=38
[03:40] <awenasidilisome> fami_ SEEM editor?
[03:40] <mooey> craig-griffis_, if it helps - dvdshrink runs pretty well under wine :)
[03:40] <covOPprometheus> riotkittie, hehehe, it's for my father hehehe
[03:40] <covOPprometheus> hey guys, can anyone name me one simple to use video converter with a GUI for ubuntu/gnome ?
[03:40] <NoEvidenZ> I feel terrible.. Been awake for far too long. :P
[03:40] <Aggort> Jakob: What should I look for in a boot disk?
[03:41] <mikedoty> It died right away ... right when I chose to install driver
[03:41] <jakob> aggort, have you got any empty cd's?
[03:41] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> Anyone here know how to tar a whole directory with subdirectories into 1 tar file?! :P
[03:41] <jrib> craig-griffis_: I don't know, but why does dvd::rip even need rar?
[03:41] <Aggort> jakob: 300
[03:41] <craig-griffis_> AHhhhhhhhhhhh    I do not and will not ever understand people who use wine. Sorry Windoze is a pet hate that I wish would vanish from the face of the universe
[03:41] <Pie-rate> How would I turn a .run file into a .deb?
[03:41] <cybercod> Hmmm...  you did this in terminal?  i think thats what happened
[03:41] <mikedoty> I did do it in terminal, yes
[03:41] <toM|vendettA> Pie-rate: try "alien --help"
[03:41] <cybercod> it kills x
[03:41] <mooey> welcome back, kuzmaster
[03:41] <Aggort> jakob: well over 300
[03:41] <jakob> aggort, try looking for recovery cd's then... Brb. phone is ringing
[03:41] <kuzmaster> mooey: thanx
[03:41] <Aggort> jakob: k
[03:42] <kuzmaster> are the ubuntu forums down?
[03:42] <kuzmaster> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[03:42] <kitche> Pie-rate: you can't
[03:42] <cybercod> you have to hit CTRL+ALT+F5 and do it in there... it kills X almost immediately
[03:42] <kuzmaster> it keeps comming up with the cpanel page......
[03:42] <mooey> kuzmaster, it loads here
[03:42] <jakob> aggort, I have to go for ten mins, sorry.
[03:42] <Pie-rate> kuzmaster: no.
[03:42] <kuzmaster> same, now
[03:42] <jrib> craig-griffis_: what errors do you get with 'sudo apt-get install dvdrip'?
[03:42] <mooey> @ 82.211.81.186
[03:42] <kuzmaster> its alright for me now
[03:42] <mikedoty> How do I get back to X after X is killed?
[03:42] <cybercod> startx
[03:42] <Aggort> ok
[03:42] <fami_> awenasidilisome, Yeah, for motorla at least I know a lot of the phone config is done via the SEEM
[03:42] <cybercod> after it is done
[03:43] <mooey> mikedoty, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[03:43] <cybercod> actually i think it starts it up automatically
[03:43] <Aggort> Hey anyone else want to help me with thsi odd issue? I really need to get it resolved
[03:43] <Pie-rate> is it possible to switch from gdm to kdm on the fly?
[03:43] <mooey> Pie-rate, sure. stop gdm and start kdm :p
[03:43] <mikedoty> Is it okay to run it from terminal?
[03:43] <mikedoty> Or should I exit x and run it from command line?
[03:43] <cybercod> no... terminal runs under x
[03:43] <rbil> PIe-rate: run kdm in another terminal
[03:44] <mooey> mikedoty, if you are in a terminal in X and then you run it it will kill the terminal
[03:44] <mikedoty> Ok
[03:44] <mikedoty> ctrl alt f5?
[03:44] <cybercod> ctrl + alt +F5.. thats what I read in the instructions
[03:44] <jerp> covOPprometheus, http://www.smorgasbord.net/best_video_converter_windows
[03:44] <awenasidilisome> fami_ anything for cingular that you can recall?
[03:44] <mikedoty> Alright
[03:44] <mooey> mikedoty, its best to press control-alt-f1 and do it in that console
[03:44] <mikedoty> right back
[03:44] <mikedoty> f1/
[03:44] <fami_> awenasidilisome, I've never had a cingular phone :( Only motorola and nokia
[03:44] <mikedoty> F1 or F5?
[03:44] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, ok its taring to the directory1!! :PPPP
[03:44] <mooey> mikedoty, or any of the virtual consoles :~) f5 is fine too
[03:44] <mikedoty> Ok
[03:44] <cybercod> one them anyway... I picked F5 arbitrarily... never knew there was a diff
[03:44] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, wicked :p
[03:44] <mikedoty> :)
[03:44] <mooey> cybercod, they are all the same :) just its helpful to have a few
[03:45] <Pie-rate> is it possible to run another desktop in another tty?
[03:45] <erisco> gaim is crashing EVERY time I talk to Smarter Child (an AI)... and gaim crashes periodically. I was wondering if there are any solutions to this, or if there are OTHER MESSAGING CLIENTS? Thanks.
[03:45] <sam__> How do You install Xubuntu ontop of ubuntu? plz
[03:45] <Aggort> Does anyone in here know why Windows would need the Windows Install CD to be in the CD drive to boot, though it doesn't actually boot the CD?
[03:45] <awenasidilisome> fami_ i only use cingular well this ones a LG so i'm not really sure on anything for it
[03:45] <rbil> Pie-rate: yes
[03:45] <mooey> sam__, apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[03:45] <riotkittie> sam > sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop , i believe
[03:45] <Pie-rate> rbil: how?
[03:45] <cybercod> mooey... so quick... arrrgh
[03:45] <khaije1> sam__: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[03:45] <riotkittie> mooey has the speedy fingers of doom
[03:45] <cybercod> i actually knew that one
[03:45] <mooey> muwhahahahaha
[03:46] <khaije1> hehe.. oops!
[03:46] <rbil> Pie-rate: I've never done it but a friend of mine runs his system with gnome running in tty F7 and kdm in F8
[03:46] <mooey> :)
[03:46] <awenasidilisome> i forgot how much MS 2k suxors
[03:46] <mvfeinstein> Can anyone here help me get xgl set up on edgy?
[03:46] <cybercod> there should be a helper point system
[03:46] <riotkittie> on the bright side, im faster than khaije1. <does a little dance>
[03:46] <rbil> Pie-rate: I assume you just start kdm in another tty terminal
[03:46] <mooey> mvfeinstein, do you have 3d acceleration going?
[03:46] <cybercod> mvfeinstein... automatix-bleeder does it
[03:46] <Aggort> Does anyone in here know why Windows would need the Windows Install CD to be in the CD drive to boot, though it doesn't actually boot the CD?
[03:46] <khaije1> riotkittie: heh! i'm multiskalking!
[03:46] <mooey> Aggort, possibly not the right channel :p
[03:46] <cybercod> aggort... if there is a critical system file missing, it could be reading it off the disk in order to boot
[03:46] <khaije1> (multislaking)
[03:46] <riotkittie> because Windows is the root of all evil and your Windows install is clearly possessed?
[03:46] <fami_> awenasidilisome, Sorry, but I don't know any particulars of the LG phones. You would have to google for info on it.
[03:47] <Aggort> cybercod: I ahd thought about that
[03:47] <awenasidilisome> yeah i know
[03:47] <Aggort> cybercod: But I can't even boot into recovery console to find out so
[03:47] <awenasidilisome> fami_ yeah i know
[03:47] <cybercod> Aggort... try going to Qunu.com  good free windows help there
[03:47] <mooey> best to blow your windows parition away for ubuntu though yea ? :}
[03:47] <Aggort> cybercod: Will try
[03:47] <cybercod> mooey... definately
[03:47] <gninommus> how can i config tv out with an ati 9600xt on edgy? i followed the instructions at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[03:47] <riotkittie> i need to get rid of my 2k partition ;\
[03:47] <Aggort> I would btu I am a gamer
[03:48] <mvfeinstein> mooey yes
[03:48] <mooey> excellent mvfeinstein :)
[03:48] <cybercod> aggort... try cedega
[03:48] <gninommus> but the ati config doesnt have any options
[03:48] <mvfeinstein> cybercod what is automatix-bleeder?
[03:48] <awenasidilisome> any one know if i should put kubuntu on the ubuntu box?
[03:48] <linuxgoober> Aggort I am a gamer, but I only use linux
[03:48] <mooey> automatix is evil mvfeinstein, avoid it :~)
[03:48] <Aggort> linuxgoobeR: How?
[03:48] <covOPprometheus> jerp, does that thing work on wine or what?
[03:48] <arooni> hey folks, when i run ... 'grep date_created ./' i get 'permission denied'.... do i need to write something different to recurisvely search through current directory looking for files with 'date_created'in them?
[03:48] <cybercod> mvfeinstein  it is a group of scripts for installing things in ubuntu
[03:48] <riotkittie> i am so ... something or other. i finally downgraded from xp to 2k, spent far too many hours moving partitions and breaking things...
[03:48] <mvfeinstein> mooey ok :)
[03:48] <awenasidilisome> dont know if its better to have 2 linux boxs or 1
[03:48] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, thank you!!!! Would you know if ubuntu is good for a gameserver? Because thats what im tring to use it as
[03:48] <linuxgoober> a lot of my favorite games play with linux and those that don't can with cedega and wine
[03:49] <jerp> covOPprometheus, what, do you need to put something on you ipod?
[03:49] <cybercod> I've not had any trouble with it mooey... whats wrong with automatix?
[03:49] <riotkittie> only to realize i *could* write to my husband's computer from ubuntu after all :/
[03:49] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, it depends what games tbh. alot run better on windows, sadly, but ubuntu is as good as any linux distro for game hosting. its modern, which is great
[03:49] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> linuxgoober try cedega, it seems to be the best for linux gaming
[03:49] <awenasidilisome> asdfjkahsdfjkha ubuntu should be good for a game server
[03:49] <aivijay_> true
[03:49] <mooey> cybercod, its frowned upon because it usually breaks a lot of things :(
[03:49] <riotkittie> have 2. one to test things and potentially break things with, one to work with ;p
[03:50] <Aggort> linuxgoober: OK, then how about this list of games I play, and you can help me out. BF2, Counterstrike, Half-Life and mods of the two, WoW, and War Rock, that's all I play
[03:50] <linuxgoober> asdfjkahsdfjkha : i have it, but theres no point in using it for games that run natively
[03:50] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> Hrmm, I had this problem that about 24 hours of running it the cpu usage would skyrocket and the serverside FPS would drop the teens, so I would haft to restart the server....
[03:50] <mooey> riotkittie, thats what i do :~) my laptop is for breakage and my desktop is stable
[03:50] <cybercod> ah... as I've said.. i've not had any trouble with it... and usually i install it before other things... so not much to break
[03:50] <linuxgoober> Aggort : broaden your horizons lol
[03:50] <covOPprometheus> jerp, nope, not at all, I need a video converter/encoder, that is able to change between a wide range of formats (like SUPER  on windows) but for ubuntu
[03:51] <Aggort> linuxgoober: Let me guess no of those games play or work?
[03:51] <riotkittie> i think im going to bring my ancient desktop out of the closet and use it for breakage :D
[03:51] <mooey> sadly linux isn't there yet for games :(
[03:51] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, do you know if there is a way to change the timer frequency to 1000hz on install without having to recompile the kernel ?
[03:51] <aivijay_> guys anyone who can help me out on wireless networking questions
[03:51] <mooey> quake3 based games are good
[03:51] <linuxgoober> I play WoW and Halflife sometimes
[03:51] <Aggort> linuxgoobeR: I only play those on PC (I hate rts's btw) the rest I have a Wii and Xbox360 for
[03:51] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, i suspect you will have to recompile the kernel, but its not so hard :)
[03:51] <linuxgoober> linux gaming is better than dualbooting imho
[03:51] <mooey> agree
[03:51] <mooey> i play /alot/ of enemy territory
[03:51] <riotkittie> dualbootings not bad if youve got the space.
[03:51] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, grrrrrrrrrr, would you have any suggestions on what kernel to use exactly for stability ?
[03:51] <jerp> covOPprometheus, vlc has a lot of plugins http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=449323
[03:52] <Aggort> linuxgoober: can I run mods with Steam throuhg Linux?
[03:52] <riotkittie> although i imagine it'd get annoying if all you did in win was game.
[03:52] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> aggort yes
[03:52] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, probably best just to make that change to the existing ubuntu kernel config. that way you dont stand to break too much heh
[03:52] <cybercod> I tend to keep OS partitions very small and do majority of installations on big media partition
[03:52] <caucas> hello guys
[03:52] <Aggort> asdfjkahsdfjkha: OK then what about War Rock?
[03:52] <linuxgoober> hy caucas
[03:52] <phasegen> anyone have any luck getting a palm t|x to connect to ubuntu?
[03:52] <Aggort> if I can play those then FUCK windows
[03:52] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, I tried to find a tutorial on that but no avail. I always ended up having to dl another kernel
[03:53] <cybercod> My win partition is only 5GB on a 250GB drive
[03:53] <linuxgoober> thats the spirrit Aggort! lol
[03:53] <kitche> !language|Aggort
[03:53] <ubotu> Aggort: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:53] <Aggort> sorry kitche
[03:53] <Aggort> I forgot
[03:53] <linuxgoober> fat32 cybercod?
[03:53] <Aggort> lol
[03:53] <covOPprometheus> jerp, thanks, I'll check it out
[03:53] <riotkittie> my current win partition is 1 gb on a 12gb drive ;p
[03:53] <caucas> Linux for humans
[03:53] <caucas> Ubuntu
[03:53] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> aggort, I could play all the hl1 modifications but I didnt have hl2 when I did it. But to my knowledge yes
[03:53] <awenasidilisome> i have 25 gbs on a 120 dedicated to win vista and the rest is for mac os x
[03:53] <cybercod> linuxgoober... actually no... its ext3
[03:53] <mooey> !compilekernel | asdfjkahsdfjkha
[03:53] <ubotu> asdfjkahsdfjkha: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[03:53] <cybercod> i use ext2fsd in windows
[03:53] <Aggort> kitche: Would you know why Windows would need the Windows Install CD to be in the CD drive to boot, though it doesn't actually boot the CD?
[03:53] <mooey> that has guides on using the existing kernel config, asdfjkahsdfjkha =)
[03:54] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mooey, thanks!!!!!!!
[03:54] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, no problem
[03:54] <Aggort> asdfjkahsdfjkha: Like I said though, what about war rock?
[03:54] <riotkittie> xp was taking up three. and driving me crazy because i had booted into it and used it all of twenty minutes in six weeks
[03:54] <Aggort> asdfjkahsdfjkha: And how do you got about installing them?
[03:54] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> aggort, war rock is just a mod of HL2 and if you can run hl2 then you can run a mod of it
[03:54] <cybercod> is it just me, or is ext3 more succeptible to damage from hardboots than ntfs?
[03:54] <struct> latest release is edgy right?
[03:55] <Aggort> asdfjkahsdfjkha: No it;s not.... it doesn't even play through steam
[03:55] <mooey> cybercod, ntfs hides errors :) so though you may see more, its more capable of dealing with them. when ntfs craps itself, its rarely fixable, but with ext3 its fixable
[03:55] <Aggort> asdfjkahsdfjkha: How do you isntall them anyway?
[03:55] <mooey> struct, yep
[03:55] <maddash> i got a 1089% speed increase using debian...
[03:55] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> aggort, I just used wine to install/run steam then used it like I was on windows
[03:55] <maddash> oop
[03:55] <maddash> s
[03:56] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> but you should use cedega since its made for gaming
[03:56] <linuxgoober> Aggort : purchase cedega or install wine or winex
[03:56] <cybercod> riotkitty  i just find it handy to have two OSes installed because invariably I will do something to screw up one of them
[03:56] <riotkittie> are you using key sequences to avoid having to do hard buuts?
[03:56] <cybercod> I'm one of those ppl who just can't leave things alone
[03:56] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> linuxgoober isnt cedega the new versions of winex ?
[03:56] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, cedega is a commercial proprietray fork of wine
[03:56] <riotkittie> cybercod >> hehehe. i have three installed at the moment :P
[03:56] <linuxgoober> what mooey said
[03:56] <cybercod> i only hardboot when neccessary... when it is extremely locked up (not even numlock works)
[03:56] <Aggort> is wine hard to use?
[03:56] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> wasnt cedega originally winex ?
[03:56] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> aggort no
[03:56] <Aggort> Would I need to be a linux pro I mean
[03:57] <Aggort> realllly
[03:57] <kitche> asdfjkahsdfjkha: cedega is winex
[03:57] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, it was originally wine, yea
[03:57] <Aggort> Hmmmmm
[03:57] <cybercod> aggort... no no no... i use it... whats that tell ya
[03:57] <riotkittie> cybercod > there is a way to get around that sometime with a series of keypresses
[03:57] <Aggort> I am starting to like the sound of this then
[03:57] <Aggort> hmmm
[03:57] <Aggort> Well I ca give it a try
[03:57] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> haha, I didnt even know how to mount a drive and I could get wine to work with steam/wow
[03:57] <Aggort> ok
[03:57] <riotkittie> yes, even when the system appears totally unresponsive
[03:57] <Aggort> but then still doesn;t help me
[03:57] <struct> if wine is gpl you would think cedega would have to distribute under gpl too
[03:57] <Aggort> I need to fix my problem firsty
[03:57] <rbil> cybercod: you should try opening another tty terminal and fix from there and if that doesn't work, ssh into your box and fix from there
[03:57] <Aggort> first*
[03:57] <Aggort> with the CD boot
[03:57] <break_> what the hell
[03:57] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> struct, I think you just pay for the updates or something
[03:58] <break_> flash player 8 isnt available for linux?!
[03:58] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> or the update service
[03:58] <mooey> struct, wine wasn't gpl when transgaming forked it, it was mit licenced. its lgpl now to stop proprietary forks
[03:58] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> People will always find a way to make money :p
[03:58] <riotkittie> you want the key sequences?
[03:58] <linuxgoober> break: don't think so
[03:58] <kitche> break_: nope it's 7 or beta 9
[03:58] <break_> so its impossible to watch videos online
[03:58] <iamsm1th> can anyone help me try to set up my wireless modem, i am new to linux and have been trying everything ALL DAY.
[03:58] <linuxgoober> break_ install beta9
[03:58] <struct> mooey: makes sense
[03:58] <gninommus> is dapper easier with getting tvout with ati working than edgy?
[03:58] <mooey> break_, flash player beta 9 works fine for online videos
[03:59] <kitche> asdfjkahsdfjkha: with cedega you pay for development and support it's not easy getting all those games working nicely
[03:59] <cybercod> one moment... whats tty and ssh stand for respectivly?
[03:59] <riotkittie> ssh = secure shell, i believe
[03:59] <mooey> iamsm1th, can you provide more information? what modem is it, what errors you get, what you have tried etc
[03:59] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> kitche I know I am just stating opinion
[03:59] <Aggort> hey one last thing: Would my games run any slower?
[03:59] <jevangelo> when i try to mount a dvd iso, what type is it
[03:59] <break_> give me the link for flash player 9
[03:59] <kitche> struct: their source code is avaible though cvs without the copyright protection and other stuff that isn't gpl
[03:59] <struct> Aggort: you are going to run games with wine?
[03:59] <jevangelo> iso9660 doesnt work
[03:59] <break_> i click on the link and it takes me to 7's page
[03:59] <Aggort> and what about using my iPod?
[03:59] <mooey> Aggort, generally yea
[04:00] <riotkittie> tty i have no clue.
[04:00] <Aggort> struct: sure sounds good to me
[04:00] <mooey> Aggort, your ipod will work with most apps. rhythmbox / amarok etc
[04:00] <cybercod> actually kitche... you join for a monthly fee... and when all the games you have are working... you quit.  program still works. you just can't update the engine... but if everything is working, you don't need to
[04:00] <struct> Aggort: ok have fun
[04:00] <mooey> !ipod
[04:00] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[04:00] <Aggort> but I;d be willing to purchase cedega to rid of Windows
[04:00] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> aggort, do it, its worth it
[04:00] <mooey> yup
[04:00] <iamsm1th> can anyone help me with setting up my computer to recognize the wireless router???
[04:00] <iamsm1th> can anyone help me with setting up my computer to recognize the wireless router???
[04:00] <Aggort> sturct: What do you mean?
[04:00] <rbil> irotkittie: there are 12 tty consoles. ALT+CTRL+F1 takes u to the first. ALT+F7 from first  will take u to GUI desktop.
[04:01] <open_source_nut> break_: http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/
[04:01] <iamsm1th> can anyone help me with setting up my computer to recognize the wireless router???
[04:01] <riotkittie> any way, my attempt to offer random, potentiially useful info. if your system appears to go completely unresponsive, even if keyboard indicator lights wont come on... try avoiding a hard boot wthi the following
[04:01] <mooey> !repeat > iamsm1th
[04:01] <cybercod> what does TTY stand for?
[04:01] <open_source_nut> iamsm1th: you have your wireless card setup?
[04:01] <thechef> these days, wine is often better, especially if you have some skills in configuring it. it really depends on the games you want to play, what you should use
[04:01] <kitche> break_: there is packages for 7 and 9
[04:01] <Aggort> asdfjkahsdfjkha: I was worried about iPod downlaoding music and video games, but it sounds like I don;t have to worry at all
[04:01] <break_> i dont see anything about 9 supporting linux
[04:01] <mooey> cybercod, teletypewriter
[04:01] <jakob> how does ubuntu differentiate between files without file extensions?
[04:01] <break_> just mac and windows
[04:01] <jerp> !wireless | iamsm1th
[04:01] <open_source_nut> asdfjkahsdfjkha: nice nick
[04:01] <ubotu> iamsm1th: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:01] <cybercod> well, aggort, its not all gravy... but it can be done
[04:01] <kitche> !flash9|break_
[04:01] <ubotu> break_: flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[04:02] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> open_source_nut thx
[04:02] <mooey> jakob, it examines the contents. see the file command :)
[04:02] <break_> !backports
[04:02] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[04:02] <Aggort> cybercod: What do you mean?
[04:02] <kitche> break_: 9 is being built for linux so it's not officially out still beta
[04:02] <mooey> pretty stable though
[04:02] <cybercod> yeah... ok... when I said it was locked up... i mean LOCKED UP... but its all better now... i used envy to change to nvidia proprietary drivers and I'm having no trouble now
[04:02] <jakob> mooey, file command?
[04:02] <kuzmaster> i am having problems when trying to update my sources.list via source-o-matic
[04:02] <kuzmaster> i get all sorts of errors http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/714/
[04:03] <kuzmaster> check that out
[04:03] <kitche> kuzmaster: you using edgy?
[04:03] <rbil> cybercod: the GUi might have been locked up but the operating system itself was still running
[04:03] <Aggort> cybercod: What do you mean it's not all gravy?
[04:03] <mooey> jakob, yea. its a command you can use to recognise what type of file a file is, without an extension. its the same system that your desktop uses.
[04:03] <cybercod> I'm sure, rbil... but if I cannot interact with it AT ALL... it may as well be made out of stone
[04:03] <cybercod> I tried letting it sit overnight once... no good
[04:04] <rbil> hence using something like ATL+CTRL+F1 to open another console, log in there and properly close down the system or fix the probs in the GUI
[04:04] <jakob> mooey if I create a text file how do I tell ubuntu that it's a script?
[04:04] <riotkittie> alt+sysreq+r to put the keyboard into raw mode, then alt+sysreq+s to sync the disc, then alt+sysreq+e to terminate all processes, then alt+sysreq+u to remount all file systems read only, and finally, alt+sysreq+b to reboot. wait around 15 secs between each sequence.
[04:04] <cybercod> no keyboard input.. no mouse input... thankfully the power button still worked
[04:04] <mooey> jakob, it will recognise it by the contents in the file and its file name
[04:04] <cybercod> riotkitty... wow
[04:04] <cybercod> i may have to write that down
[04:05] <mooey> riotkittie, thats wicked
[04:05] <jakob> mooey so should I add an extension to ie. "myscript"?
[04:05] <kuzmaster> kitche: yep
[04:05] <mooey> jakob, what type of script is it? bash script?
[04:05] <FFForever> what do you guys think about ms and there "intellectual property" in the linux kernel?
[04:05] <cybercod> ALT + SysReq +   R then S then E then U
[04:05] <mooey> FFForever, FUD
[04:05] <riotkittie> then B ,
[04:05] <kiwinz_sucks> !seen batiste
[04:05] <ubotu> I haven't seen batiste recently
[04:05] <kitche> !offtopic|FFForever
[04:05] <ubotu> FFForever: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:06] <cybercod> i think it is not going to make much difference if Sun gets patents to DRM
[04:06] <kitche> kuzmaster: did source-o-matic finally add edgy to their system?
[04:06] <cybercod> Because then SUN will own MS
[04:06] <jakob> mooey, no idea what that is, but it sounds like a batch file. But this is what I want in the script "sudo ln -s /dev/ttyS0 /dev/lirc | sudo lircd"
[04:06] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> oo I heard somethnig about someone patenting DRM
[04:06] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> whow as it?
[04:06] <kuzmaster> kitche: well, it comes up with edgy in the drop down box
[04:06] <mooey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, alan cox :)
[04:06] <break_> oh great, i dont have any audio
[04:06] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:06] <mooey> jakob, in which case you need to put a shebang at the top of the file: #!/bin/sh
[04:07] <mooey> jakob, then the desktop should recognise it as a script
[04:07] <break_> where did my sound go????
[04:07] <cybercod> riotkitty...   R S E U B... missed the B   is that right?
[04:07] <break_> i was listening to a cd a couple hours ago, it was working fine
[04:07] <break_> now i dont have any audio output at all
[04:07] <riotkittie> cybercod  >> yep !
[04:07] <jakob> mooey a shebang?
[04:07] <mooey> jakob, lol. thats what its called *shrug*
[04:07] <mooey> !shebang
[04:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shebang - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:07] <bnvjmhj> hi
[04:07] <mooey> :(
[04:08] <awenasidilisome|> break_ what did you to your computer?
[04:08] <mooey> howdy, bnvjmhj
[04:08] <odi3> Problem: I mount a network folder in ubuntu, add to fstab, works for 20 secs or so then stops responding. If i reboot it will work for 20 more seconds then stop responding, any ideas how to fix?
[04:08] <jakob> mooey, how do I add that?
[04:08] <cybercod> riotkitty... the things you learn in here
[04:08] <riotkittie> and give it like 10 or 15 secs between each series of keypresses so the system can do its thing
[04:08] <cybercod> i'm gonna email that to myself
[04:08] <kiwinz_sucks> break, check and make sure you have the right switches on
[04:08] <mooey> jakob, open the script in a text editor and add it as a new line to the top
[04:08] <break_> i've only installed flash9
[04:08] <new_user> hi all
[04:08] <riotkittie> cybercod,  i read it on the forums and had to write it down :P
[04:08] <kiwinz_sucks> for instance, some better sound cards have digital/analog switches
[04:08] <mooey> hi, new_user
[04:08] <riotkittie> its come in handy quite a few times and has never failed me
[04:08] <break_> i've had more problems with linux in the past day than i have with windows in the past year
[04:08] <jakob> mooey, ah, get it now.. Where should I put this script if I want it to run when I boot?
[04:09] <kurumin> ola
[04:09] <kiwinz_sucks> break, what sound card are you using
[04:09] <odi3> my fstab entry://diskstation/personal /diskstation/personal smbfs rw,uid=odi3,gid=odi3,username=admin,password=baddog 0 0
[04:09] <break_> nforce audio
[04:09] <break_> integrated
[04:09] <break_> im restarting, it helps alot
[04:09] <mooey> jakob, hm. i guess in /etc/init.d/ and then link it properly but im not sure about that
[04:09] <kurumin> sorry, can you repeat pleas
[04:09] <cybercod> riotkitty.. have you had to use it?
[04:09] <riotkittie> cybercod >> indeed i have. quite a few times.
[04:09] <mooey> break_, linux can be hard to get going. but the advantage is that when its going it shouldn't break, where as windows usually does, its a trade off, heh.
[04:10] <jakob> mooey, I thought the init.d was just commands.. I'll give it a try
[04:10] <riotkittie> and ive never had problems or data loss on the reboot
[04:10] <break_> a trade off that seems to favor windows
[04:10] <kiwinz_sucks> i have to rebuild my windows drive, but I keep putting it off because i dread it so much
[04:10] <break_> i can listen to music in linux, thats a plus
[04:10] <break_> but it sounds like crap
[04:10] <kiwinz_sucks> break, what app are you using
[04:10] <break_> no matter what program i use, volume
[04:10] <break_> nothing
[04:10] <break_> right now i'm using xmms
[04:10] <awenasidilisome|> break_ does it sound faster then normal or is it just poor quality
[04:10] <mooey> break_, i guess it depends how many problems you run into. it would be fantastic if you noted down the problems that you have and list them somewhere (your blog, mailing list, forums etc) so that we can make ubuntu better
[04:11] <break_> very poor quality
[04:11] <kiwinz_sucks> i've had problems with VLC having crappy sound quality
[04:11] <odi3> easiest way to rebuild windows is to build once, then save image on external sourse
[04:11] <kiwinz_sucks> i mean HORRIBLE quality
[04:11] <kiwinz_sucks> but other than that, apps play sound fine
[04:11] <break_> vlc is fine with videos
[04:11] <mooey> break_, use the sound mixer to adjust the levels, drop them all down abit then turn the speakers up?
[04:11] <riotkittie> hmm.  i found audio sounded a lot better when i installed the xmms eq plugins and turned 3d  on under alsamixer
[04:11] <break_> thats what i did mooey
[04:11] <break_> it still sounds horrible
[04:11] <cybercod> odi3.. yeah I use paragon drive copy for that
[04:12] <kiwinz_sucks> what's the best disk imager for linux
[04:12] <mooey> break_, i think xmms uses oss. you might get better sound quality from a more modern player like beep media player or rhythmbox that uses alsa
[04:12] <zcat[1] > kiwinz_sucks: partimage .. or dd :)
[04:12] <checkmate> i run xmms w/alsa fine
[04:12] <kiwinz_sucks> i've got a separate partition setup already and a clean install, so i'd like to do a complete image
[04:12] <cybercod> xmms can use alsa also
[04:12] <odi3> i used to just use ghost
[04:12] <h_black> i just updated ubuntu to 6.10, since i did i have troubles connecting to unencrypted networks, any ideas?
[04:12] <open_source_nut> kiwinz_sucks: dd
[04:12] <odi3> same thing tho
[04:12] <erisco> I am trying to remove a package, but it is trying to remove another package that shouldn't be removed. gnome-desktop. How can I get around this?
[04:12] <kiwinz_sucks> thanks, guys
[04:13] <mooey> erisco, it will do that if gnome-desktop depends on the package and so it shouldn't really be removed
[04:13] <zcat[1] > I just tar everything then reinstall grub by hand.. that way I can easily move to a different size partition or a totally different kind of drive (RAID, SATA) which partimage is likely to have issues with
[04:13] <kitche> kiwinz_sucks: be careful with dd since it cna whipe your drive clean also
[04:13] <erisco> mooey, so how can I reinstall my other package?
[04:13] <doofy> is there a good tutorial on making k3b burn mp3s in edgy?
[04:13] <kiwinz_sucks> will do, kitche
[04:13] <mooey> erisco, aptitude reinstall package? :}
[04:13] <kiwinz_sucks> it'll make a network-installable image, right?
[04:13] <odi3> erisco, you might have gnome-desktop checked and not seeing it in the list due to a filter
[04:13] <cybercod> doofy... you're probably missing libk3bmp3
[04:14] <Aggort> Well is that case, if anyone in here knows why Windows would need the Windows Install CD to be in the CD drive to boot, though it doesn't actually boot the CD, I can fix the problem and be Windows free!
[04:14] <erisco> mooey, thanks :)
[04:14] <Red-Sox> Any way to play apple's AAC's in Ubuntu?
[04:14] <riotkittie> why do you need to fix the problem to be windows free?
[04:14] <doofy> cybercod, thank you.
[04:14] <mooey> its late. bed for me. asdfjkahsdfjkha i hope you get your system sorted, let me know how it goes :-)
[04:15] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> thanks
[04:15] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> ttyl mooey
[04:15] <riotkittie> nite mooey
[04:15] <mooey> night all
[04:15] <odi3> aggort, what happens when CD isnt in drive?
[04:15] <cybercod> doofy.   no prob.. check spelling on that i'm not sure... and you may have to re-install k3b
[04:15] <mag__> Can I do restrictions in sub-files ?
[04:15] <mag__> in samba ?
[04:15] <doofy> cybercod, ill find it, didnt know there was a package in the reps
[04:15] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> name server = dns right?
[04:15] <Aggort> riotkittie: because regardless it will ask me to boot from CD (even thought it's clearly on the hard drive.
[04:15] <kitche>  asdfjkahsdfjkha yes
[04:16] <odi3> aggort, you might just need to go into bios and change the boot order
[04:16] <cybercod> aggort... and if you do not put the cd in?
[04:16] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> thansk
[04:16] <odi3> so it boots from specified hard drive instead of cd .
[04:16] <riotkittie> odi3, he's tried that. at least i hope he has because people have been suggesting it since at least this time last night
[04:16] <riotkittie> :P
[04:16] <Aggort> odi3: It will jsut hang there and then about 3 mintues alter start to try and boot from CD and then it won't boot anything if the CD is in there. Hell Grub won't even start to load unless the CD is in.            Cybercod: It boots Windows fine (w/o grub) With grub I get error 17!
[04:16] <odi3> haha oo ok
[04:17] <odi3> hmm
[04:17] <webmaren> i can't get my keyboard to work in a java applet
[04:17] <FFForever> y is the ubuntu wiki ssl?
[04:17] <Aggort> odi3- The boot order is definitely Hard Drive - CD- Floppy. I know I suck, but I am not a total noob
[04:17] <odi3> what happens if you pull cd rom drive right out of computer?
[04:17] <kitche> the bios boot order won't effect anything unless he has a cd in there of course
[04:17] <cybercod> error 17... oh yes... i just love error 17
[04:17] <Aggort> odi3: The same thing
[04:17] <zcat[1] > Aggort: what kinds drive? ide? sata?
[04:17] <cybercod> its my favorite
[04:18] <Aggort> zcat[1] : SATA
[04:18] <Aggort> cybercod: It's everyones
[04:18] <h_black> Since i updated ubuntu i can't get it to connect to my unencrypted network, does anyone know why?
[04:18] <webmaren> i can't type in java applets
[04:18] <iamsm1th> can anyone help me with setting up my computer to recognize the wireless router???
[04:18] <zcat[1] > hmm.. limited experience with sata .. I've set mine in bios to pretend to be IDE and that works for me..
[04:19] <NoEvidenZ> iamsm1th: I wish.
[04:19] <cybercod> aggort... does it have an IDE drive in it?
[04:19] <Aggort> If I unistall windows it will still look for the CD and if I put the CD in then it will boot the install and not grub!
[04:19] <Aggort> cybercod: Yes
[04:19] <odi3> iamsmlth what kind of wireless device u have?
[04:19] <mikedoty> I return slowly because my connection to the repositories was around 5 - 7 kb/sec
[04:19] <odi3> if u have linksys pcmia card with speedbooster i can hook u up:)
[04:19] <mikedoty> And because I was making a cake
[04:19] <cybercod> iamsm1th... is your wireless card detected?
[04:19] <riotkittie> did you try fixmbr from xp recov console?
[04:19] <zcat[1] > Aggort: can you get as far as the grum menu? try changing the kernel options from hda? to sda? and see if it can boot...
[04:20] <iamsm1th> yes, i think so
[04:20] <cybercod> mikedoty... did it work?
[04:20] <mikedoty> Thanks for your help cybercod and mooey in helping me figure out to use the program correctly
[04:20] <iamsm1th> it just says this device is not configured
[04:20] <FFForever> how can i speen up my apt downloads?
[04:20] <zcat[1] > *grub menu I mean...
[04:20] <FFForever> im getting 7722B/s :/
[04:20] <Aggort> zcat[1] : No when grub loads I get error 17
[04:20] <cybercod> mikedoty... so it is working?
[04:20] <FFForever> i normally get 80kb/s
[04:20] <mikedoty> It did indeed work and it is indeed working ;)
[04:20] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> lol speen
[04:20] <h_black> iamsm1th i'm having the same problem!
[04:20] <webmaren> i can't type in java applets can someone here offer some help
[04:20] <zcat[1] > Aggort: ok, sounds like grub is looking in the wrong place too...
[04:20] <odi3> u guys have linksys pcmia cards?
[04:20] <cybercod> ok... aggort... if you can put your /boot folder on the ide drive and point grub to it.. you should be able to get grub working
[04:20] <h_black> unless you type in a essid u can't connect
[04:21] <Aggort> zcat[1] : yea
[04:21] <Aggort> that's why I want to fix this werid thing witht he CD
[04:21] <Aggort> so I can get rid of Windows
[04:21] <h_black> (i think)
[04:21] <Aggort> cybercod: They did that last night to no avail
[04:21] <Aggort> Ikonia helped me
[04:22] <odi3> !register
[04:22] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[04:22] <h_black> which unbuntu are you running sm1th, 6.10?
[04:22] <cybercod> aggort  what file system on the IDE drive?
[04:22] <Aggort> you can run me through the steps if you;d like, but I am almsot certain that is what they did
[04:22] <riotkittie> when you get rid of windows, mail that cd back to microsoft, accompanied by a scathing letter about just how bad it sucks :P
[04:22] <Aggort> cybercod, I have NTFS and ext3
[04:22] <eitan> hey guys...need help with a bash script
[04:22] <kitche> Aggort: well what is grub installed ot the sata drive right now
[04:23] <Aggort> kitche: Should be
[04:23] <kitche> Aggort: since if it is it would be sd0,2 instead of hd0,2
[04:23] <cybercod> aggort... and you put the /boot files on the ext3 partition? and did you change grub to reflect that?  also.. i recommend the Ultimate Boot CD ISO if you can get it
[04:23] <awenasidilisome|> its so temping to wipe this guys drive and put kubuntu on it and tell him that i couldn't fix the problem so i gave him a better computer
[04:23] <Aggort> cybercod: I beleive so
[04:23] <kitche> awenasidilisome|: do it but then again they can sue you
[04:23] <riotkittie> heh. awenasidilisome| > be nice and give him a dual boot, instead.
[04:24] <Aggort> cybercod: yes the /root is on that partition and I beleive GRUB is too
[04:24] <Aggort> if you want to be sure give me the terminal commands and I will check for you
[04:24] <riotkittie> that way, you open the door to linux but arent exactly forcing him through it.
[04:24] <zcat[1] > Aggort: You have some bios settings to do with SATA? I suggest try fiddling with them and see if you can get grub to load. Sounds like BIOS is finding things in a different order than the install CD told GRUB about...
[04:24] <awenasidilisome|> kitche and riotkittie i want to but its MS 2k and the guy is old so i dont want to give him something he can't understand
[04:24] <riotkittie> and make kubuntu the default option. with a really short grub countdown :-'
[04:25] <Aggort> zcat[1] : I have messed with every last setting nothing worked lol
[04:25] <cybercod> aggort... ultimate boot cd will can find and fix grub, redirecting it to a /boot folder change.   Your /boot/grub/grub.lst (i think) should still reflect where your linux kernel is
[04:25] <zcat[1] > bugger...
[04:25] <riotkittie> awenasidilisome|, how old is so old?
[04:26] <doofy> does k3b support adding more files than are able to fit on one cd and then automatically splitting to a certain amount f cds?
[04:26] <cybercod> aggort   http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html     this is a very handy tool for your toolbox
[04:26] <kitche> awenasidilisome|: but then again I m not a Linux user that much anymore
[04:26] <iamsm1th> can anyone personally help me with setting up my computer to recognize the wireless router???
[04:26] <Aggort> cybercod they game me a command last night like /boot/menu/menu/grub.lst or something like that
[04:26] <riotkittie> i dont know - i think that maybe we have a tendency to make linux out to be too hard, or are too quick to discredit people
[04:26] <awenasidilisome|> riotkittie hes old enough to not understand anything about a computer nor does he care to learn
[04:26] <riotkittie> i imagine he's not doing much beyond email and internet
[04:26] <awenasidilisome|> hes over 50 i think
[04:26] <zcat[1] > boot a rescue disk and reinstall grub using hd(1,0) instead of hd(0,0) perhaps... worst case, put in a plain IDE drive just to boot from? :)
[04:26] <cybercod> aggort... yes. i remember now... /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:27] <riotkittie> ah one of those old people.
[04:27] <Aggort> no such file
[04:27] <cybercod> grub itself needs to be pointed at the right folder though... and it may not be
[04:27] <nny> hi anyone aware of a good howto or the possibilities of taking a frsh ubuntu install and making a livecd out of it?
[04:27] <cybercod> thats what error 17 is... can't find menu.lst
[04:27] <kaeru_> Could somone help me connect to my wireless ap? Kubuntu detects and installed the driver for my interface and I can see netwoks but cannot conntect
[04:27] <Aggort> cybercod: when I should ikonia everything he said it looked right
[04:27] <awenasidilisome|> riotkittie he plays a few game but nothing fansy
[04:28] <riotkittie> lolololol. the other day my husband was all yelling at me because i had downloaded the first iso of slackware and he couldnt log in to a website.
[04:28] <Wass|> hi, I would like to know if there's a way for growisofs to use for the device the  bus,target,lun  argument
[04:28] <awenasidilisome|> lol
[04:28] <nny> basically i have to install some packages on a new system (either via apt or source) and want to make an install cd out of it for future use
[04:28] <Aggort> cybercod: do you know the terminal commands to check this stuff? If so give them to me and I will show you
[04:28] <riotkittie> i wanted to smack some sense into him with the tower :/
[04:28] <cybercod> nny  you a JTHM fan?
[04:28] <zcat[1] > I got my machine to run using sata just yesterday .. set the BIOS to use IDE emulation, told the kernel to use /dev/sda1 as root. Everything is sweet. And much faster than ATA66 too...
[04:28] <open_source_nut> kaeru_: did u put in the right ssid and keys
[04:29] <awenasidilisome|> riotkittie towers are heavy and hurt throw a brick they do just as much damage but they're lighter
[04:29] <iamsm1th> can anyone personally help me with setting up my computer to recognize the wireless router???
[04:29] <riotkittie> hahahaha
[04:29] <nny> cybercod, yeah :D
[04:29] <zcat[1] > But I don't really have much of an idea what I actually did. Fiddled with settings until it worked. Happy.
[04:29] <cybercod> aggort...    sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst  (or menu.list  i can never remembr)
[04:29] <kiwinz_sucks> iamsm1th, you shouldn't have to set it up for your router
[04:29] <riotkittie> i had my dad using slackware once back in the day
[04:29] <kiwinz_sucks> are you wired or wireless?
[04:29] <awenasidilisome|> back in the day?
[04:30] <gninommus> why did this happen,  aticonfig: Writing to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' failed. Bad file descriptor. ?
[04:30] <awenasidilisome|> how old is he 60?
[04:30] <kaeru_> open_source_nut: I'm not sure about the key. My AP uses WPA-PSK WEP. I used iwconfig key s:foobar but it didn't help
[04:30] <riotkittie> which was impressive. cos my dad is all like "alt, cont... what? write that down"
[04:30] <KNY> about the "Networking" config tool--where does it save its settings?
[04:30] <awenasidilisome|> awesome
[04:30] <iamsm1th> im on wired right now
[04:30] <iamsm1th> but i have a wireless at my house and my apartment at school
[04:30] <kiwinz_sucks> and you can't see your router?
[04:30] <kiwinz_sucks> but you're online?
[04:30] <awenasidilisome|> someone that cares to learn the hot keys that isn't technology savvy
[04:31] <Aggort> neither of them worked
[04:31] <iamsm1th> it says that the device is not configured
[04:31] <whileimhere> I was wondering if I use an email client on my laptop like Evolution or CLAWS will it sync with say the sent items in GMAIL?
[04:31] <iamsm1th> ive tried a bunch of different things
[04:31] <eitan> im pretty new...need help writing a shell script to bind 2 keys to changing the brightness of my laptop.  Right now, I need to feed it commands through terminal to change.  Those commands are "echo "n" > /proc/acpi/sony/brightness" where n is a number 1-8.  I would like to bind 1 key to lower the # and send that command to terminal, and another key to raise it.  Would love some help, thanks guys!
[04:31] <cybercod> iamsm1th   do you have   wlan0 in "Networking" ?
[04:31] <kiwinz_sucks> so your wireless card, then
[04:31] <iamsm1th> no
[04:31] <iamsm1th> i just tried that
[04:31] <open_source_nut> whileimhere: yeah gmail has a howto on that
[04:31] <iamsm1th> and it said does not exist
[04:31] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[04:31] <kiwinz_sucks> edit your /etc/iftab
[04:31] <open_source_nut> whileimhere: in the settings enable pop acess
[04:31] <kitche> eitan: why not just you xbindkeys?
[04:31] <riotkittie> i dont get how he can be so clueless about computers. he bought his first one in like 91. and he's just... sad.
[04:31] <cybercod> iamsmith who are you replying to
[04:32] <kiwinz_sucks> you'll probably see an extra ethernet card
[04:32] <eitan> kitche: I would love to!  But I dunno how..
[04:32] <odi3> iamsmlth, you need to add some drivers,
[04:32] <whileimhere> On the GMAIL site? I didnt see if it specifically will sync sent items
[04:32] <riotkittie> on the bright side, i'm not getting tech support calls from him anymore :P
[04:32] <cybercod> riotkittie... its a knack.. some got it ... some use aol
[04:32] <riotkittie> hehehe. he uses aol.
[04:32] <kitche> !xbindkeys
[04:32] <ubotu> xbindkeys: Associate a combination of keys or mouse buttons with a shell command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.1-1.1 (edgy), package size 26 kB, installed size 148 kB
[04:32] <riotkittie> my husband uses it too. ;/
[04:32] <awenasidilisome|> i "bought" my first one in like 2003
[04:32] <odi3> sec lemme restart and ill give u info
[04:32] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> k
[04:33] <open_source_nut> whileimhere: do you have pop access enabled
[04:33] <pale_horse> heh my first was an IMSAI 8080B with a full hardware front panel ( circa 1976 )
[04:33] <cybercod> iamsmith.... you never answered... do you have wlan0 in "Networking" ?
[04:33] <KNY> about the "Networking" config tool--where does it save its settings?
[04:33] <kiwinz_sucks> he said he didn't
[04:33] <riotkittie> 1976 was before my time ;p
[04:33] <pale_horse> << is old
[04:33] <cybercod> kny... not a clue here
[04:33] <awenasidilisome|> great thing is now i have enough computers to have XP, Ubuntu, Mac os x, Vista, and kubuntu running in one room
[04:33] <awenasidilisome|> and soon to be opensolaris
[04:33] <cybercod> kny... try googling it...
[04:33] <Aggort> damn nothinfg
[04:33] <KNY> cybercod, alright
[04:34] <zcat[1] > awenasidilisome|: what, one computer and qemu? :)
[04:34] <whileimhere> open_source_nut: I have no prob getting email via pop what I am wondering is this. If I go to say work and use webmail and then come home and check it with a client will all the folders sync or just the inbox?
[04:34] <n30n> does anyone use that auto 'network-manager' package?
[04:34] <vectorxshell> alguem do brasil?
[04:34] <castoff> KNY /etc/networks/interfaces
[04:34] <riotkittie> i want a mac :\
[04:34] <kiwinz_sucks> i do, n30n
[04:34] <KNY> castoff, thanks
[04:34] <Amadeo> How do I go about updating my video drivers? (Nvidia)
[04:34] <open_source_nut> whileimhere: i have it where they all sync
[04:34] <riotkittie> maybe i'll get an ancient one off of ebay ;p
[04:35] <jrib> !br | vectorxshell
[04:35] <ubotu> vectorxshell: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[04:35] <tophatsir> it should sync.. but that can vary upon your server
[04:35] <zcat[1] > !nvidia | Amadeo
[04:35] <ubotu> Amadeo: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:35] <Amadeo> thanks zcat[1] 
[04:35] <cybercod> aggort... you still there
[04:35] <Aggort> yes
[04:35] <n30n> kiwinz_sucks: well i clicked and disabled networking, then when i reenabled it the section for enabling and disabling wireless networking disappear
[04:35] <Aggort> netiehr file was there
[04:35] <cybercod> armadeo http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[04:35] <kiwinz_sucks> i've seen that before
[04:35] <tophatsir> lol just modded my box to inside and out to look like a mac
[04:35] <kiwinz_sucks> it usually comes back up in my experience, though
[04:36] <whileimhere> open_source_nut: Okay. I was getting an error the other day about my sent items not syncing
[04:36] <open_source_nut> whileimhere: what client?
[04:36] <cybercod> aggort... go into you root directory
[04:36] <awenasidilisome|> zcat qemu?
[04:36] <kiwinz_sucks> last time i saw it, the card he was using was going bad
[04:36] <Aggort> cybercod ... :cough:: how
[04:36] <kiwinz_sucks> i don't think it's an applicatin problem, i think it's hardware
[04:36] <whileimhere> Evolution
[04:36] <awenasidilisome|> riotkittie i love macs but i'm slowly moving to linux/mac
[04:36] <cybercod> aggort.. open up any nautilus window and keep hitting the up arrow
[04:36] <zcat[1] > awenasidilisome|: well.. any emulator. intel mac + OSX + parallels to run all the other OSes ...
[04:36] <awenasidilisome|> or if i can get a copy of opensolaris i'm going to use that
[04:36] <cybercod> not the up arrow on the keyboard
[04:37] <n30n> kiwinz_sucks: i still connect wirelessly, i just cant see wireless networks under the network-manager drop list
[04:37] <cybercod> the up one folder button
[04:37] <kiwinz_sucks> n30n, i'm clueless then
[04:37] <kiwinz_sucks> are you using kde or gnome
[04:37] <awenasidilisome|> i have 1 pc for each OS exept i run vista and os x on the macbook
[04:37] <tophatsir> i can run all os's on my machine currently but i really prefer linux and windows way over mac os
[04:37] <zcat[1] > awenasidilisome|: thus "emough computers" == "one"
[04:37] <awenasidilisome|> nah
[04:37] <whileimhere> Though I think I want something that isnt so encumbersome
[04:37] <cybercod> aggort... when you can't go up anymore, you're in root
[04:37] <awenasidilisome|> 1 is never enough
[04:37] <Aggort> cybercod: cannot, it will jsut take me to the CD
[04:37] <awenasidilisome|> what does nasidile mean?
[04:37] <tophatsir> only reason i keep my windows is for vista dictation
[04:37] <whileimhere> I dont want all that evolution can do and a smaller footprint
[04:37] <open_source_nut> whileimhere: whell im using thunderbird
[04:38] <Aggort> cybercod: it will taske me to the CD's root
[04:38] <zcat[1] > I have enough computers to keep my house warm all winter....
[04:38] <Amadeo> Isn't a Pentium 4 (older, 2.26Ghz) considered an i386 processor? wikipedia lists it under i686
[04:38] <n30n> kiwinz_sucks: I guess its just goo it still works
[04:38] <cybercod> aggort... are you on a live disk right now?
[04:38] <whileimhere> open_source_nut: How is it?
[04:38] <open_source_nut> zcat[1] : lol
[04:38] <Aggort> cybercod: yes it's all can boot too
[04:38] <n30n> kiwinz_sucks: i just cant see it in GUI
[04:38] <tophatsir> its a 386
[04:38] <cybercod> aggort... crap
[04:38] <zcat[1] > power bill sucks though.
[04:38] <Amadeo> Yeah, I thought so
[04:38] <awenasidilisome|> zcat they all dont run at the same time
[04:38] <kiwinz_sucks> you could try installing the kde version of the app
[04:38] <cybercod> aggort... you need to mount some partitions...
[04:38] <kiwinz_sucks> just to see if it works better for you
[04:38] <Aggort> cybercod: ok
[04:38] <kiwinz_sucks> it also gives you more information than the gnome app
[04:39] <awenasidilisome|> except the xp box has to run when one of the pcs needs to be on the internet
[04:39] <open_source_nut> whileimhere:  its nice
[04:39] <open_source_nut> whileimhere:  and cool
[04:39] <tophatsir> any one know if there is any dictation software for linux (debian or ubuntu)
[04:39] <cybercod> aggort... make some folders on the desktop... just label them 1 2 3 4 etc one for each partition on every drive
[04:39] <Aggort> cybercod: I have ubuntu and windows installed, but cant access either of them
[04:39] <whileimhere> open_source_nut: Ill grab it from the repo then.
[04:39] <Asc> P4 is an x86 processor, which means it'll run a 386 kernel just fine, but it's a 686.
[04:39] <Aggort> cybercod: created folders
[04:39] <jimcooncat> Amadeo, it's a 686, but can run 386 kernel
[04:40] <tophatsir> p4 isnt a 386..
[04:40] <Amadeo> jimcooncat: So which linux-restricted-modules should I be using? Will one benefit me more?
[04:40] <awenasidilisome|> mac has dictation software
[04:40] <awenasidilisome|> lol
[04:40] <Asc> Some pentium 3s are also identified as 686s... my 500 mhz laptop is running a 686 kernel right now.
[04:40] <eitan> kitche: How can i figure out what key-codes are for certain key-presses, for instance my laptop has an Fn key
[04:40] <cybercod> aggort. once you're done there,  click System, then Administration, then Disks
[04:40] <tophatsir> i need some dictation software really bad
[04:41] <Aggort> k
[04:41] <Aggort> done
[04:41] <tophatsir> anyone got any suggestions for linux dictation sofware
[04:41] <cybercod> aggort you should see your drives
[04:41] <cybercod> do you?
[04:41] <Aggort> yea
[04:41] <Aggort> I have 1
[04:41] <kiwinz_sucks> what is "dictation" software
[04:41] <cybercod> ok... now, you're gonna want to select the drive that ubuntu is installed on, and click the partitions tab
[04:41] <tophatsir> you speak into mic and it types what you say
[04:41] <awenasidilisome|> yeah i finally got the driver downloaded W007!
[04:41] <awenasidilisome|> took me long enough
[04:41] <Aggort> did
[04:42] <awenasidilisome|> jeez windows sucks
[04:42] <maddash> mac also has reverse dictation software
[04:42] <Asc> tophatsir: My understanding of the situation if that you're best off using a proprietary solution for dictation on Linux.  But I might be wrong.
[04:42] <riotkittie> tophatsir, dictation under linux is basically a no go
[04:42] <gendor> could someone help me
[04:42] <zcat[1] > is there any voice recogition stuff for ubuntu?
[04:42] <maddash> I once order pizza using microsoft word on a mac
[04:42] <tophatsir> alright
[04:42] <cybercod> ok... now to mount the partitions... you should see a "change" button
[04:42] <tophatsir> i will just stick with my vista then
[04:42] <Matt_> anyone have a quick minute for newb question about wifi and ubuntu?
[04:42] <jimcooncat> Amadeo: p   linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-686                   - Non-free Linux 2.6.15 modules on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV
[04:42] <maddash> and one time, my dad thought I was with a girl or something haha
[04:42] <Aggort> yea
[04:43] <tophatsir> just hate beta testing.. gets to be a pain with all the bug reports
[04:43] <Asc> maddash: I made mine sing 'the worms crawl in, the worms crawl out...'
[04:43] <jimcooncat> Amadeo, that's from dapper
[04:43] <riotkittie> IBM used to have a program but i think someone bought it   ...
[04:43] <Amadeo> I see
[04:43] <cybercod> click that and browse your way to the folders you created    /home/ubuntu/Desktop/1
[04:43] <gendor> When I change font settings they affect everything except Firefox which keeps having somewhat blurry fonts
[04:43] <Asc> Matt_: Just ask away, and hope somebody answers. ;p
[04:44] <cybercod> aggort   once its there, you should click enable
[04:44] <Aggort> did
[04:44] <Amadeo> the 686 in Edgy says it's obsoleted by linux-restricted-modules-generic...which it says I already have...so now I don't know if I should be installing one of these or not, though the page says to... :P
[04:44] <riotkittie> i was looking into it a while ago because of issues with my wrist
[04:44] <Aggort> did
[04:44] <kohr_> is there a way to change the upload browser (like in firefox) to allow you to preview files like the windows one does?
[04:44] <cybercod> aggort, is it enabled?
[04:44] <Aggort> yup
[04:44] <castoff> gender: firefox settings are edit->preferences
[04:44] <Matt_> Do any wireless devices work with Ubuntu "out of the box"?  Is there a list of these devices or drivers somewhere? I have a desktop that I intend to use with Ubuntu and thought I would ask before I go out and buy an 802.11 adapter.
[04:44] <cybercod> ok... now minimize that for a moment
[04:44] <jimcooncat> Amadeo, to see list:  apt-cache search linux-restricted
[04:44] <tophatsir> meh.. i am bored.. i think i will go telnet my other comp just for kicks..=p
[04:44] <yoshiznit123> tophatsir, there are some solutions that i think work pretty well
[04:44] <webmaren> i cannot type my login to the java applet on runescape.com
[04:44] <Aggort> k
[04:44] <castoff> gendor: firefox settings are edit->preferences
[04:44] <webmaren> can someone offer help
[04:44] <cybercod> now open the folder "1"
[04:44] <zcat[1] > Matt_: rt2400 works sweet in edgy...
[04:44] <Aggort> did
[04:45] <gendor> castoff: but how can I make my fonts anti-aliased
[04:45] <break_> would anybody like to guide me through the installation of firefox 2.0?
[04:45] <kiwinz_sucks> Matt_, there IS a list, or a couple lists, rather, but they aren't too reliable
[04:45] <zcat[1] > out of the box, right off the install CD
[04:45] <cybercod> you see your ubuntu install in there?
[04:45] <tophatsir> webmaren: did you install the java plugin?
[04:45] <riotkittie> my wireless card worked from the minute
[04:45] <Aggort> yup
[04:45] <kiwinz_sucks> your best bet is to just ask around for someone who'd tried one
[04:45] <webmaren> yes
[04:45] <webmaren> from synaptic
[04:45] <cybercod> ok... /boot/grub/menu.list
[04:45] <yoshiznit123> break_, which version are you using? 2.0 is already included by default in edgy
[04:45] <break_> 1.5
[04:45] <break_> im on dapper
[04:45] <cybercod> find it yet?
[04:45] <yoshiznit123> break_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:45] <gendor> it seems that the fonts throughout the system and menus are anti-aliased but the fonts in Firefox keep aren't
[04:45] <Aggort> there
[04:46] <tophatsir> yoshiznit123, what do you mean.. for dictation?
[04:46] <cybercod> ok... is it opened up in gedit?
[04:46] <Aggort> yup
[04:46] <webmaren> tophatsir: yes i got it from synaptic, also jvm
[04:46] <yoshiznit123> tophatsir, yea actually i was looking for one a while back :-)
[04:46] <Matt_> Anyone have any luck with the Linksys USB 2.0 802.11 adapters?
[04:46] <cybercod> ok... this is just the config file for grub.   this SHOULD  be right, as it is now.... the problem is that grub itself cannot find it
[04:47] <cybercod> hence the error 17
[04:47] <yoshiznit123> tophatsir, i think you use ibm's viavoice and xvoice as one option
[04:47] <Aggort> yup
[04:47] <odi3> to get the linksys pcmia card to work you gotta update the firmware..
[04:47] <linuxgoober> Matt_ I got a trendnet to work, but it was so long ago i forget ho wi did it :-(
[04:47] <burepe_> does anyone know where the hosts file is in my apache install?
[04:47] <tophatsir> youshiznit, thanks.. any other suggestions.
[04:47] <cybercod> aggort....ok... wait a moment... lemme look something up
[04:47] <Aggort> k
[04:47] <kohr_> can anyone tell me what the default file upload/file chooser program (like if you are uploading something with firefox) is called?
[04:47] <yoshiznit123> tophatsir, i guess google "linux voice recognition"
[04:48] <castoff> gendor: see if this helps http://forums.pcbsd.org/viewtopic.php?p=25646
[04:48] <tophatsir> yoshiznit123, thanks for the help. will do. =] 
[04:48] <Amadeo> jimcooncat: Yeah, I'm just confused...this page says to get the linux-restricted-modules according to my processor...which is a Pentium 4.  The i386 has no special comments, but the i686 says it's obsoleted by the -generic that I already have installed...so which am I supposed to be getting? Any at all before I install Nvidia drivers?
[04:48] <erisco> can anyone find the package dbg-gaim on ubuntu 6.06? Or anyone know how I can get this package?
[04:49] <friedeggs> hello, I need help...after the default login screen, when the desktop is loading, the system is hanging, badly, the whole screen is just a solid peach colour, and a white box appears in the upper left hand corner...it looks like it wants to be a terminal there, but nothing can be typed in...help
[04:49] <break_> wow, this is too confusing
[04:49] <Matt_> well, I guess I will have to buy one from CompUSA .... and then just try to return it if it doesn;t work
[04:49] <burepe_> friedeggs: I had that same problem
[04:49] <break_> just to update a program???
[04:49] <kiwinz_sucks> friedeggs--- sounds like a gnome problem
[04:49] <burepe_> friedeggs: did you change the resolution?
[04:49] <kiwinz_sucks> try starting a safemode session
[04:49] <friedeggs> kiwinz_sucks: I tried to start failsafe, same thing
[04:50] <kohr_> can anyone tell me what the default file upload/file chooser program (like if you are uploading something with firefox) is called?
[04:50] <kiwinz_sucks> kohr_ i don't think anyone knows what you're talking about
[04:50] <kiwinz_sucks> file chooser for firefox?
[04:50] <friedeggs> mysystem was being weird before the restart
[04:50] <friedeggs> cpu was maxed out, but nothing was opened, and the system monitor would not open
[04:50] <gendor> can anyone help me with this Firefox problem, it seems that anti-aliasing is not on in Firefox, but it is on in the rest of the system
[04:51] <jimcooncat> Amadeo, beyond my knowledge, sorry
[04:51] <riotkittie> try switching to a tty and seeing whats running
[04:51] <Amadeo> that's ok, thanks for trying :)
[04:51] <kohr_> kiwinz_sucks you understand what i am asking? when you attach a file in gmail, for instance, a window pops up that allows you to choose the file you want to upload
[04:51] <open_source_nut> gendor: did you restart the font server after you canged things
[04:51] <castoff> gendor: did you look at the url i suggested?
[04:51] <Sargun> jessie, Hello
[04:51] <gendor> can you sent the URL atgain
[04:51] <castoff> gendor: see if this helps http://forums.pcbsd.org/viewtopic.php?p=25646
[04:51] <friedeggs> kiwinz_sucks: how would I reset gnome?
[04:51] <jimcooncat> Amadeo, you probably would need the corresponding linux-image
[04:51] <burepe_> friedeggs: did you just install? when you installed was the resolution 800x600 but too low? That was what happend to me. then I changed the resolution and I had your same problem. I reinstalled to get rid of it but now I still have low resolution
[04:51] <cybercod> aggort
[04:52] <Aggort> cybercod
[04:52] <friedeggs> burepe:no
[04:52] <break_> Man, theres this cute girl I know around here--shes a god when it comes to linux. Too bad I lost her phone number :(
[04:52] <gendor> ok I will give that a shot
[04:52] <archie> why my soundcard gettin down after unreal play
[04:52] <friedeggs> reinstalling is not really an option yet
[04:52] <gendor> open_source_nut: how do you restart the font server?
[04:52] <awenasidilisome|> break_ nice one
[04:52] <cybercod> ok... next you must mount up the partition that is on the IDE drive.. the ext3 one
[04:52] <archie> it says it is not configured properly
[04:52] <open_source_nut> gendor: i dont think thats your problem
[04:52] <kiwinz_sucks> kohr_, that's just ajax stuff in gmail
[04:52] <cybercod> mount it into "2"
[04:52] <friedeggs> if I can find out what is causing the system to hang...
[04:52] <kiwinz_sucks> it's not a program at all
[04:53] <archie> !ut
[04:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ut - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:53] <kram_> (exit
[04:53] <Aggort> cybercod, that is my ext3 one I munted already, unelss you mean swap
[04:53] <Aggort> or NTFS
[04:53] <archie> !unreal
[04:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unreal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:53] <gendor> I will try that and come back
[04:53] <burepe_> friedeggs: if you find out let me know in case I have it again
[04:53] <friedeggs> sure
[04:53] <friedeggs> I think it is gnome
[04:53] <kiwinz_sucks> kohr, it just brings up nautilus
[04:53] <cybercod> aggort... so you're saying that ubuntu is installed on the IDE drive?
[04:53] <Aggort> yes
[04:53] <Aggort> it has to be
[04:53] <cybercod> ok... so which partition is it?
[04:53] <Aggort> it's my only one
[04:53] <friedeggs> but I need to know how to reset gnome, in case it went haywire somehow
[04:53] <Aggort> hda3
[04:53] <kiwinz_sucks> friedeggs, you could try installing another dekstop and see if that one loads ok
[04:53] <Aggort> I already mounted it
[04:53] <Aggort> lol
[04:54] <kohr_> kiwinz_sucks, ok i will go configure nautilus
[04:54] <cybercod> ok... no problem... now we need to open a terminal
[04:54] <Aggort> k
[04:54] <Aggort> open
[04:54] <cybercod> i thought you said earlier you were on sata
[04:54] <cybercod> type grub
[04:54] <riotkittie> yeah, t thought that too
[04:54] <archie> is here room for linux gamers ?
[04:54] <Aggort> I thought it was
[04:54] <friedeggs> kiwinz_sucks: how would I reinstall gnome, you know, reset it to it's original settings
[04:54] <castoff> friedeggs: you mean reset like ctl+alt+del to restart X?
[04:54] <Aggort> done
[04:55] <cybercod> one moment.. lemme read a sec... must get this right
[04:55] <friedeggs> castoff:no, not just restart x, I mean reload gnome...reinstall it
[04:55] <awenasidilisome|> i have found that my brother is of no help when it comes to tech questions
[04:55] <Aggort> k
[04:55] <kiwinz_sucks> friedeggs, you could just try reinstalling it
[04:55] <friedeggs> screen just went black on said sick comp
[04:55] <cybercod> you said it was hda3?
[04:55] <awenasidilisome|> cuz it seems all my questions are beyond his tech. support knowledge
[04:55] <archie> i have a problem on ubuntu unreal tournament gettin my soundcard down
[04:55] <kiwinz_sucks> sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[04:55] <Aggort> right
[04:55] <cybercod> which in grub translates to hd0,2
[04:55] <kiwinz_sucks> then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:55] <Aggort> yup\
[04:55] <cybercod> ok... one moment
[04:55] <Aggort> I knew that from eyserdta
[04:56] <Aggort> yesterday *** bad typo
[04:56] <friedeggs> easy enough
[04:56] <friedeggs> brb
[04:56] <FindX> awesome
[04:56] <cybercod> Type "root (hd0,2)"     hit enter
[04:56] <cybercod> no quotes of course
[04:56] <burepe_> friedeggs: that ubuntu desktop install takes a long time I think
[04:57] <FindX> root (hd0.2)
[04:57] <Aggort> selected disk does not exist!
[04:57] <jimcooncat> kiwinz_sucks, removing ubuntu-desktop doesn't really uninstall anything
[04:57] <kiwinz_sucks> burepe_, i think the gnome libs will stay, though
[04:57] <cybercod> Hmmm...
[04:57] <kiwinz_sucks> it won't uninstall much, but it should get rid of the config files
[04:57] <kiwinz_sucks> put it back to defaults
[04:57] <Aggort> cybercod...  od
[04:57] <Amadeo> How can I find more apps to install through the tools provided?
[04:57] <Aggort> odd*
[04:57] <jimcooncat> hmmm
[04:58] <cybercod> did we miss a step?
[04:58] <burepe_> aggort synaptic
[04:58] <zcat[1] > Amadeo: synaptic ?
[04:58] <cybercod> hold on a moment...lemme look
[04:58] <Aggort> k
[04:58] <zcat[1] > Amadeo: or on the main menu "Add programs"
[04:58] <break_> WOAH
[04:58] <break_> 100%[[04:58] <faeryNatsuki> hello, i have a problem
[04:58] <faeryNatsuki> i have no sound in firefox with flash
[04:58] <kiwinz_sucks> faery, what flash are you using
[04:58] <riotkittie> or apt-cache search <keyword> in a term
[04:59] <kiwinz_sucks> 7 or 9 beta?
[04:59] <Amadeo> zcat[1] : What if it's not in Synaptic?
[04:59] <riotkittie> faeryNatsuki, flash 7?
[04:59] <awenasidilisome|> anyone know how to password protect the bios on a macbook?
[04:59] <zcat[1] > !seveas | faeryNatsuki
[04:59] <ubotu> faeryNatsuki: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:59] <faeryNatsuki> flash 9
[04:59] <faeryNatsuki> let me check
[04:59] <zcat[1] > get flash from seveas.... latest version and I think it works properly
[04:59] <mag_> Can somebody help me with samba !
[04:59] <cybercod> aggort, go back to disks... and disable that partition... then go back to the terminal and try again
[04:59] <break_> flash 9 works for me
[04:59] <maddash> where's h3xis?
[04:59] <Aggort> k
[04:59] <faeryNatsuki> 9 beta
[04:59] <break_> i didnt have video or sound with flash 7
[04:59] <break_> lol
[04:59] <h3xis> maddash, i live.
[05:00] <mag_> I can't enter to a file !
[05:00] <jontec> do I use a 64-bit install of ubuntu in vmware on windows?
[05:00] <FindX> i need help getting something that can play flash
[05:00] <kiwinz_sucks> flash 9 beta should work fine
[05:00] <maddash> yay h3xis
[05:00] <zcat[1] > FindX: seveas repos, then apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:00] <kiwinz_sucks> do you get other sound from your browser
[05:01] <riotkittie> i only have one gripe with flash under ubuntu.  i cant login @ comedycentral.com with it.
[05:01] <faeryNatsuki> 9.0.21.78.2ubuntu1~edgy1 is my version
[05:01] <Aggort> Error 11: Unrecognized device string
[05:01] <faeryNatsuki> i believed that
[05:01] <kitche> riotkittie: probably because it uses flash 9?
[05:01] <faeryNatsuki> but now i have no sound with flash
[05:01] <riotkittie> which is maddening because with my lack of life, i play the daily show trivia game more often then i care to admit
[05:01] <Aggort> sorry typoerd
[05:01] <Aggort> Error 21: Selected disk does not exist
[05:01] <faeryNatsuki> maybe the problem is related to the sounddirectly
[05:02] <riotkittie> kitche >> i have flash 9 installed but there is this weird neon green box that covers most of the page :/
[05:02] <faeryNatsuki> i have no sound when ubuntu starts
[05:02] <cybercod> Hmmm... perhaps it needs to be mounted in /media/hda3
[05:02] <faeryNatsuki> i had sound before, but not now :(
[05:02] <faeryNatsuki> the drums XD
[05:02] <riotkittie> faeryNatsuki,  >> silly question perhaps but... is your volume muted?
[05:02] <mag_> help me with samba .............................
[05:02] <cybercod> aggort hit Alt+F2   then type gksudo nautilus  then enter
[05:02] <zcat[1] > faeryNatsuki: turned down or muted?
[05:03] <Aggort> (nautilus:9536): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[05:03] <Aggort> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[05:03] <faeryNatsuki> i have sound
[05:03] <faeryNatsuki> no muted soun
[05:03] <FindX> zerodcm4601
[05:03] <FindX> lofrtyo4501
[05:04] <zcat[1] > faeryNatsuki: if you have the sound settings icon, doubleclick on it, make sure both master and DSP sliders are not at zero, and speaker icon below isn't crossed out
[05:04] <FindX> piopio4401
[05:04] <cybercod> aggort... darn
[05:04] <earthen> hye anyone know where the bluez-utiles file is gone in edgy?
[05:04] <kenthomson> Can someone please help me, cannot play .mov files. I have the plugins installed and i have tried VLC, mplayer, gxine, totem, none of them work. Can someone please please please help?
[05:04] <break_> yay, flash9 wont play music on myspace.com
[05:04] <faeryNatsuki> volume is OK, i have sound in gnome, in alsa, in amarok, but some programs have n sound... i had two soundcards and i disabled one, now i solved one problem and after i got a second problem :(
[05:04] <Aggort> cybercod: I think this is what I went through yesterday but it worked
[05:05] <cybercod> hmmm... ok... try remounting it in "1"   i think we were supposed to use root terminal
[05:05] <Aggort> k
[05:05] <kiwinz_sucks> kenthomson: http://othello.alma.edu/~07tmhopk/ubuntuhowto.html#restrictedcodecs
[05:05] <Amadeo> brb
[05:05] <kenthomson> kiwinz_sucks, i have installed all the codecs on the below linl
[05:05] <jimcooncat> kenthomson, .mov are Quicktime files
[05:05] <cybercod> aggort... lemme know when its remounted
[05:05] <nojock> how do i fix java it has an error on line 76
[05:05] <awenasidilisome|> anyone got any clues on how to get a visiontek 9250 video card to work? i've dowloaded and installed the drivers and i've tried a different monitor
[05:06] <Aggort> remounted
[05:06] <kenthomson> !restricted | kiwinz_sucks,
[05:06] <ubotu> kiwinz_sucks,: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:06] <kenthomson> jimcooncat, i know that
[05:06] <cybercod> aggort... close the terminal... and open a new one
[05:06] <zcat[1] > no DRM? no matter how many codecs you install, ubuntu still won't play DRM formats....
[05:06] <kiwinz_sucks> kenthomson, there are less-well supported codecs (read: glitchy as crap) in the link i gave
[05:06] <Aggort> done
[05:06] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> !kernel
[05:06] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[05:06] <zcat[1] > not sure if mov has a drm version though
[05:07] <cybercod> type in  sudo gnome-terminal     enter
[05:07] <kenthomson> zcat[1] , ok
[05:07] <Aggort> k
[05:07] <zcat[1] > common problem with wmv's though. I find them all the time :(
[05:07] <cybercod> in the new (root) terminal window  type grub
[05:07] <kiwinz_sucks> vlc plays WMV just fine
[05:07] <earthen> anyone know how I can have my blue-tooth mouse auto connect on startup I cannot find the bluez-utiles file that i used in dapper to do it
[05:07] <Aggort> k
[05:07] <zcat[1] > kiwinz_sucks: not protected wmv it doesn't :(
[05:08] <faeryNatsuki> see you, i'll try to fix it, and i have to restart
[05:08] <kiwinz_sucks> zcat, i haven't had any that won't play
[05:08] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> can anyone point me to a tutorial on modifying the original ubuntu kernel /
[05:08] <cybercod> now, what was it   ...   Type "root (hd0,2)"
[05:08] <kiwinz_sucks> are you using the most recent vlc and codecs?
[05:08] <zcat[1] > kiwinz_sucks: you're not looking in the right places :)
[05:08] <gop> !SheepShaver
[05:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about SheepShaver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:09] <zcat[1] > !drm
[05:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:09] <Aggort>  Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
[05:09] <gop> so thier no SheepShaver bulid for ubuntu
[05:09] <cybercod> ok.. now we're getting somewhere
[05:09] <cybercod> one moment
[05:09] <Aggort> lol
[05:09] <Aggort> k
[05:09] <jimcooncat> kenthomson, you try xine?
[05:09] <riotkittie> hm. i wonder how to make a fortune file.
[05:09] <earthen> !bluetooth
[05:09] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[05:09] <cybercod> setup (hd0)
[05:09] <cybercod> type that
[05:09] <kenthomson> kiwinz_sucks, i have all the codecs, etc updates
[05:10] <kenthomson> jimcooncat, i tried gxine, totem, vlc, mplayer
[05:10] <Asc> ubuntu VLC does wmv3 now?
[05:10] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> I am tring to install linux-kernel-devel but when I do apt-get it says it cannot find the package
[05:10] <kenthomson> Is this site down? http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Main_Page
[05:10] <cybercod> aggort?
[05:11] <Asc> huh, so it does.  Cool.
[05:11] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> I am tring to install linux-kernel-devel but when I do apt-get it says it cannot find the package
[05:11] <kenthomson> asdfjkahsdfjkha, don't repeat, if someone knows they are bound to help
[05:11] <Aggort> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/719/
[05:11] <cybercod> asdfgjklwhatever... try it with just -dev
[05:11] <kitche> asdfjkahsdfjkha: that's ebcuase that package doesn't exist
[05:11] <Aggort> cybercod: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/719/
[05:11] <kitche> asdfjkahsdfjkha: you probably want linux-tree
[05:12] <cybercod> aggort... ok... type quit
[05:12] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> im tring to follow https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KernelCustomBuild to modify the ubuntu kernel
[05:12] <Aggort> k
[05:12] <cybercod> did you do this yesterday?
[05:12] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> and it calls to install linux-kernel-devel
[05:12] <Aggort> yup
[05:12] <cybercod> exactly the same thing?
[05:12] <Aggort> pretty much
[05:12] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> cybercod what do you mean with just -dev ?
[05:12] <kitche> !linux-kernel-dev
[05:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linux-kernel-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:12] <cybercod> ok... and remind me... if there is no disk in, what happens when you reboot?
[05:13] <kenthomson> Would it help if i uploaded a 1.3mb, .mov file that is not working so that you guys can try it out and let me know whether or not you are having the same problems?
[05:13] <cybercod> how do you get to grub error 17?
[05:13] <Aggort> Only when the install CD is in
[05:13] <kenthomson> Is there someone here who would help me out by downloading a small 1.3mb .mov file and checking whether it is playable in Ubuntu or not?????
[05:13] <Aggort> without it it will just hang then try to boot from CD and then if no CD is in try to boot from floppy then it jsut sits!
[05:13] <zcat[1] > kenthomson: url?
[05:13] <kenthomson> jimcooncat, please read my above posts
[05:13] <cybercod> black screen?
[05:13] <cybercod> no messages?
[05:14] <Aggort> black with white text indeed
[05:14] <kenthomson> kiwinz_sucks ?
[05:14] <kenthomson> zcat[1] , ?
[05:14] <cybercod> what does it say?
[05:14] <zcat[1] > where's the clip? I'll try it.
[05:14] <kenthomson> zcat[1] , ok i will give it to you
[05:14] <jimcooncat> sorry, I do research only, don't test on my machine
[05:14] <kohr_> how do i set environmenta; variables?
[05:14] <riotkittie> wait. can you boot into windows after that if the disc is in ??
[05:14] <Aggort> only messages is standard standard and...
[05:14] <Aggort> Boot From CD:
[05:14] <Aggort> Boot From CD:
[05:14] <Aggort> (and w/e the floppy message is about a system disk)
[05:15] <Asc> ken, I'll give it a try as well, but I'm on 56k
[05:15] <kenthomson> HERE IS A .MOV FILE http://www.sendspace.com/file/7wxsqn, someone please play it and let me know whether it is playable or NOT> please
[05:15] <cybercod> "standard"?
[05:15] <kenthomson> Asc, zcat[1]  jimcooncat here you go
[05:15] <riotkittie> is the hd, by chance, dead?
[05:15] <Aggort> cybercod: you know the usual stuff you see when it's ready to boot. All the white text readng different things
[05:15] <cybercod> you've only got one hard drive right?
[05:15] <Aggort> cybercod: yes
[05:16] <kohr_> how do i set an environmental variable?
[05:16] <cybercod> you didn't change jumper settings, right?
[05:16] <LucianSolaris> yo yo yo
[05:16] <capixaba> i need to help... I have a laptop with radeon xpress 200 m... how can I config in my OS ubuntu?
[05:16] <Aggort> cybercod: no recently
[05:16] <kitche> kohr_: export VAR=whatever you want
[05:16] <Aggort> not*
[05:16] <Aggort> cybercod: but they'd be correct
[05:16] <kenthomson>  HERE IS A .MOV FILE http://www.sendspace.com/file/7wxsqn, someone please play it and let me know whether it is playable or NOT, please???
[05:17] <zcat[1] > kenthomson: seems a bit munted...
[05:17] <kenthomson> zcat[1] , you get any visuals? if yes, in what player, and ya what is 'munted'?
[05:17] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> !linux-kernel-devel
[05:17] <kenthomson> :)
[05:17] <dillitante> kohr_,  SET, man set
[05:17] <ubotu> linux-kernel-devel: Linux kernel hacking dependencies. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17.1-10.34 (edgy), package size 1070 kB, installed size 1108 kB
[05:17] <cybercod> ok... if you could... try rebooting, now... without the disk...and write down EXACTLY what it says... when you come back, we'll search for that exact text... also, what make and model is your PC?  custom built? dell? dare i say it ... compaq?
[05:17] <Aggort> cybercod: I cxan do you one better
[05:17] <PORDO>  so if i want to use dmix in my fresh ubuntu edgy install, should i set the sound system to NOT used esd?  and should i set it to use alsa as the sound device, instead of something like ICH5?
[05:17] <Aggort> I have a screen shot of it
[05:17] <Aggort> give me one sec
[05:17] <LucianSolaris> holy shit it took almost a minute to join this channel (900+ users in here) :O
[05:17] <kenthomson> cybercod, what's wrong with compaq?
[05:18] <cybercod> awesome
[05:18] <zcat[1] > mplayer: first frame, sorta, lots of errors. VLC crashed on it.
[05:18] <Aggort> to get it it off my laptop
[05:18] <riotkittie> heh
[05:18] <cybercod> **snicker** ahem.... nothing
[05:18] <Aggort> btw it's a cyber power gaming PC
[05:18] <kitche> PORDO: ICH5 is probably your sound card
[05:18] <cybercod> i just fix a lot of them
[05:18] <Aggort> give me a sec to get the photo ok
[05:18] <cybercod> ok
[05:18] <kenthomson> zcat[1] , not playable? Did you get any smooth frames playing for 1-2sec in any player, or NO?
[05:18] <PORDO> kitche indeed it is.
[05:18] <Amadeo> Does anyone happen to have a Plantronics DSP-500, or know how to get it working correctly? I can get audio, but the volume is maxed out no matter what I change the volume to in Gnome
[05:19] <kenthomson> Did anyone else try the .mov file? I can't play it in vlc, totem, mplayer, gxine. please help
[05:19] <Melissa|X> I have a plantronics headset, just not that particular one
[05:19] <PORDO> kitche my question was whether i should choose that, or alsa, as my sound device in order for dmix to work.
[05:19] <Amadeo> Melissa|X: Is yours USB?
[05:19] <Melissa|X> yes it is
[05:19] <cybercod> armadeo... right click the volume icon in tray and hit  preferences... make sure it is on the right card
[05:19] <zcat[1] > kenthomson: no, not playable at all. I could try it in windows but I have to go boot up another computer...
[05:19] <PORDO> mine isn't USB.  i was so depressed when i got it in the mail and had just assumed it was usb.
[05:19] <piao> how to resize a primary disk partition
[05:19] <PORDO> i never even considered a headset might not be usb.
[05:20] <PORDO> piao "how do i resize a primary disk partition?"
[05:20] <kenthomson> zcat[1] , let me try it in windows then? You see going back to windows is inevitable, it's just a matter of time as to how much can ubuntu hold us. One day all pcs are gonna be windows :(
[05:20] <bruenig> PORDO "piao "how do i resize a primary disk partition?""
[05:20] <piao> i use gparted
[05:20] <PORDO> bruenig ?
[05:20] <Amadeo> cybercod: It doesn't have a Volume selection :(
[05:20] <zcat[1] > kenthomson: I suspect the file is corrupted.
[05:20] <iamsm1t1> can anyone personally help me with my wireless connection? ive tried everything and have no idea what im doing....
[05:20] <cybercod> armadeo.. no icon there next to clock?
[05:20] <kenthomson> zcat[1] , i dom'y
[05:21] <Aggort> http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/3706/img2993sd3.jpg    This is right before it says about no system disk
[05:21] <kenthomson> !wifi | iamsm1t1
[05:21] <ubotu> iamsm1t1: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:21] <Amadeo> cybercod: I mean, when i select it...there's no Volume adjustment, just bass, etc
[05:21] <PORDO> how can i make my second hard drive be automounted under /media?  do i need to add it to fstab?
[05:21] <awenasidilisome|> the awenasidilisome-man wins
[05:21] <Melissa|X> Amadeo: try running "asoundconf set-default-card Headset" and see if that solves it
[05:21] <Tox> hi, how to reload all audio subsystem without restart ?
[05:21] <jrib> PORDO: yes
[05:21] <zcat[1] > kenthomson: where did it come from?
[05:22] <Amadeo> Melissa|X: Ok!
[05:22] <cybercod> armadeo is it set in alsa or oss?
[05:22] <kenthomson> zcat[1] , linux tutorial cd, that is a .bin/.cue, which i have mounted using cdemu as a .iso. Do you think that could be causing problems?
[05:22] <minerale> how can I enable xvideo ? I am trying to play a file via xv and I get something like: It seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card available.
[05:22] <jrib> minerale: what video card do you have?
[05:22] <Amadeo> cybercod: Alsa
[05:22] <cybercod> aggort... what about after that point? or does it just sit there?
[05:22] <jevangelo> i just mounted an iso that i bchunked from a bin and cue file, it has a video that has a .dat file extension
[05:22] <Aggort> cybercod: http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/3706/img2993sd3.jpg
[05:22] <jevangelo> what would i need to do to play it
[05:23] <Aggort> sorry
[05:23] <jevangelo> i think its a vcd
[05:23] <Tox> jrib can u help me ?
[05:23] <Asc> kenthompson: It doesn't work for me either.  mplayer shows a cursor moving a little but nothing intelligible in the background; vlc dies with a segfault.
[05:23] <Aggort> cybercod: it jsut sits there
[05:23] <ubuntu_> What's the best codec package to download? I have tons of video files, I need a good set of codecs
[05:23] <cafuego_> jevangelo: that would be a VCD or SVCD, MPEg1 or MPEG2 respectively.
[05:23] <Aggort> cybercod: I let it run for 5 minutes
[05:23] <jrib> jevangelo: I'd try mplayer with w32codecs, since that plays everything for me
[05:23] <cybercod> aggort... thats the same picture... it just sits at that point?
[05:23] <Aggort> yup
[05:24] <ubuntu_> I hear most of the good codecs are not in the repostiroeis for legal purposes
[05:24] <minerale> jrib: ATI, I have installed the ati drivers and they work finre
[05:24] <Aggort> ybercod: I have let it run for 5 minutes
[05:24] <ubuntu_> where can I get a good set of codecs?
[05:24] <cybercod> and if you put in the cd... it boots up properly?
[05:24] <jrib> Tox: no, sorry I don't know how to do that.  Maybe  /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart   ?
[05:24] <Amadeo> Melissa|X: Doesn't seem to, unless I would need to restart X
[05:24] <kenthomson> Asc, :(
[05:24] <harushimo> hey everyone I was wondering why ubuntu live cd didn't work
[05:24] <Chest> why does sudo init 5 not restart my X server
[05:24] <kenthomson> jrib, hi there, i still can't find a way to play that .mov file :(
[05:24] <Melissa|X> try restarting X then maybe
[05:24] <Chest> ?
[05:24] <kenthomson> jrib, i have uploaded it at http://www.sendspace.com/file/7wxsqn, if you could play it and help
[05:24] <Asc> kenthompson: Does that exact file work on windows?  After downloading it from the same location?
[05:24] <Amadeo> ok, brb
[05:25] <paguilera> Hi.  I'm wondering if there is anyway of being able to run firefox in a debug mode so I can try to find out why it's crashing.
[05:25] <kenthomson> Asc, not booted to windows after i had that file, but i don't doubt that it WONT work in windoZ
[05:25] <Aggort> cybercod: w/o GRUB yes
[05:25] <castoff> harushimo: did you md5sum the downloaded iso?
[05:25] <Aggort> with grub no
[05:25] <Tox> jrib it always stuck after game i play .. on exit i hear no sound everytime need to restart
[05:25] <cybercod> aggort... how are you selecting grub or no grub?
[05:25] <moshe> hello
[05:25] <jrib> Tox: weird, what game?
[05:25] <Aggort> cybercod: I'm not I'm saying before I isntalled ubuntu and after
[05:25] <Asc> kenthompson: Okay.  As long as win's still not better, I don't have to feel insecure.
[05:25] <cybercod> ah... ok
[05:25] <Aggort> cybercod: sorry to confuse ya
[05:25] <Tox> unreal tournament
[05:25] <ubuntu_> I guess what I need are w32 codecs
[05:25] <kohr_> ok, i used the blast program to put holes over all my windows, but none of my mice have the button to remove the holes, so all my apps have gaping holes in them, how do i fix this?
[05:26] <ubuntu_> so that I can watch all my movies
[05:26] <moshe> what do I need to do to make my hostname appear on my router's dhcp table?
[05:26] <kenthomson> jrib, ?
[05:26] <MSTK> for some reason I can't get the latest Java to work on firefox, despite the fact that I followed their instructions from the Sun site.
[05:26] <MSTK> anybody mind helping?
[05:26] <kitche> moshe: use a different dhcp client dhclient can do it
[05:26] <kenthomson> !java | MSTK
[05:26] <ubotu> MSTK: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:26] <jrib> kenthomson: can't play it either, it's either garbage or encoded in some pretty recent format probably
[05:26] <Tox> not everytime but often
[05:26] <harushimo> yes
[05:26] <kenthomson> jrib, :(
[05:26] <cybercod> aggort... and it did that with windows alone, before installing ubuntu? has it always done that?
[05:27] <kenthomson> jrib, so it won
[05:27] <moshe> kitche, you mean remove the one I have on the server now?
[05:27] <kenthomson> jrib, won't work?
[05:27] <jrib> kenthomson: nope
[05:27] <kenthomson> jrib, :(
[05:27] <Aggort> cybercod Yes to the first question no to the second. I had to reformat my hard drive about a year ago, that's when it started doing it
[05:27] <kenthomson> bye!
[05:27] <Aggort> I had to refomrat it after I screwed up an Ubuntu install that ruined my NTFS partition and at that time being in school I NEEDED windows
[05:28] <MSTK> thanks ken & ubotu
[05:28] <Amadeo> Nope :( There seems to be no volume control in the sound options for it...only PCM
[05:28] <moshe> umm
[05:28] <cybercod> aggort... on starting up the ubuntu live disk, there is an option to "boot to hard disk" have you tried that?
[05:28] <Aggort> a guy last night was going to have me erase my boot sector, but I had no clue how or what to do
[05:28] <moshe> isn't dhclient what's installed by default?
[05:28] <linuxgoober> I'm writing some lessons for my cousin's typing program and there needs to have only one sentence per line. Is there anyway I can script something to put an enter after every period?
[05:28] <moshe> it's on the server already
[05:28] <Aggort> cybercod: yes it eventually errors out
[05:28] <linuxgoober> http://hypertype.org/index.php?title=Adding_Practice_Texts
[05:28] <castoff> MSTK did you link it in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins?
[05:28] <cybercod> howso?
[05:29] <kenthomson> MSTK, :)
[05:29] <Aggort> cybercod: I unno it jsut won;t do anything
[05:29] <Aggort> I don't know what exactly it says
[05:29] <cybercod> ok... NONSYSTEM DISK ERROR?
[05:29] <Angelus> !GDM
[05:29] <Aggort> YEA
[05:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about GDM - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:29] <Aggort> I think that's it!
[05:29] <docmur> I"m wondering what the difference is (besides arch) that the 64bit release of a distro has over the x86
[05:30] <cybercod> yeah, its your boot sector that is screwed....
[05:30] <Aggort> YAY
[05:30] <Aggort> lol
[05:30] <Aggort> Now that's getting somewherwe
[05:30] <kenthomson> docmur non, it is not recommended to use even on a 64bit machine
[05:30] <docmur> okay
[05:30] <Aggort> well in that case can I flush it out and be safe?
[05:30] <cybercod> because we know the files are there, we just mounted them...
[05:30] <docmur> thanks
[05:30] <Aggort> YAY
[05:30] <Aggort> lol
[05:30] <Angelus> anyone know of a program for making GDMs?
[05:30] <cybercod> possibly, but you'd have to reinstall grub afterward, like we just did.
[05:30] <Aggort> you don't know how excited this makes me
[05:30] <kitche> Angelus: you mean theme for gdm?
[05:31] <Aggort> cybercod I'm willing to try anything at this poinrt
[05:31] <Aggort> so please let'as do this
[05:31] <Aggort> lol
[05:31] <Angelus> yes thank you kitche
[05:31] <cybercod> lemme look and see what I can find on boot sectors...
[05:31] <Aggort> k
[05:31] <cybercod> -------------------------ANY BOOT SECTOR GURUS IN THE HOUSE????
[05:31] <kitche> Angelus: I believe gnome-look.org has a good tutorial on how to make themes for gdm
[05:31] <bruenig> unfortunately not too that many dashes
[05:31] <bruenig> I mean four dashes maybe
[05:32] <bruenig> but that must be conservatively 20 dashes
[05:32] <mag_> can you help me with samba ? each times that I wanto to enter to ubuntu server, ubuntu server request me user an pass and I have no users created on the machine my configuration is this: http://pastebin.com/853264 could you help me !
[05:32] <bruenig> I am not 20 dashes good
[05:32] <cybercod> funny bruenig
[05:32] <ublender> hello
[05:32] <bruenig> ---------------------------look at me I can draw attention by being stupid
[05:32] <cybercod> just lots of conversations going on...
[05:32] <moshe> kitche, thanks.  That did the trick
[05:32] <zcat[1] > ------------------moo
[05:32] <cybercod> ah... being stupid is my specialty.. did you not know?
[05:32] <ublender> yay, gcc is evil
[05:33] <cybercod> i have lots of practice
[05:33] <moshe> cybercod, and you're exceedly humble
[05:33] <ublender> in fact, would there be a particular reason that when I compile just about anything, it segfaults and says it is unrecoverable/hardware/os issue?
[05:33] <cybercod> i barely know what I'm doing in here myself...i am just really good at researching
[05:33] <MSTK> I'm sorry for asking a lot of questions, but is there a Parallels-type application in Ubuntu where I can emulate an XP environment?
[05:33] <Aggort> PUT IT THIS WAY DASHES BEATS CAPS!
[05:34] <cybercod> i used both aggort
[05:34] <cybercod> double stupid whammy
[05:34] <acerbix> Question: Is there any way to set up mirror repositories? I am trying to update Fiesty after install, and speeds are s-l-ooooooooooooooo-w. Synaptic tells me it will take 3 days. Are there any mirrors?
[05:34] <Aggort> MSTK: Wine
[05:34] <ublender> MSTK: let me suggest researching wine, vmware, cedega, and crossover office
[05:34] <MSTK> Aggort: Wine just runs windows apps in Ubuntu
[05:34] <whileimhere> Whats a repo with the libdvdcss and w32 codecs?
[05:34] <Aggort> cybercod: there was a guy yesterday who knew exactly how to do it and then he logged off
[05:34] <MSTK> is there any way I can have, say, a window running that's a Windows desktop?
[05:34] <jrib> whileimhere: seveas' repo
[05:34] <jrib> !seveas | whileimhere
[05:34] <ubotu> whileimhere: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:34] <ublender> STK: vmware
[05:34] <whileimhere> thanks
[05:34] <Aggort> MSTK: sorry thoughts that what you wanted
[05:34] <ublender> MSTK: vmware
[05:35] <MSTK> Aggort: it's okay, thanks for helping
[05:35] <cybercod> lemme look it up.. i didn't know how to re-install grub when i came in here earlier lol
[05:35] <Aggort> MSTK: VMware is right
[05:35] <Aggort> cybercod: lol
[05:35] <cybercod> doesn't that make you feel secure?
[05:35] <kitche> MSTK: qemu maybe but why not just use parellel they do have a Linux version?
[05:35] <cybercod> be back in a moment
[05:35] <ublender> so, would somebody be willing to compile something for me :p
[05:35] <ublender> and send it to me
[05:35] <kitche> ublender: what tis it
[05:36] <ublender> kitche: pspvc
[05:36] <MSTK> kitche - i don't know...do they?
[05:36] <jrib> ublender: what is pspvc?
[05:36] <Asc> How much disk space does a new edgy install take up?
[05:36] <mikedoty> What file permission type am I to give a directory if I want it to be completely accessible, like any other folder I'd make?  sudo chmod ??? mydir
[05:36] <kitche> MSTK: yes but not sure if serials are different for it though
[05:36] <ublender> jrib: a video converter for encoding video for the psp
[05:37] <paguilera> What does it mean when you get a core dumped while using Firefox for an Illegal Instruction?
[05:37] <ublender> it comiles its own ffmepg, but it segfaults at a random point in the make process
[05:37] <ublender> compiles*
[05:37] <kitche> paguilera: that firefox did something bad you can find out what the core has in it by using gdc
[05:37] <PORDO> how do i make my optical digital out on my ICH5 the default (or work at all) in edgy
[05:38] <pwilson> does anyone know how to get the nvidia Geforce go 6150 / 430m (same damn card) working in edgy, I'm at my wits end, I've tried both the current, and legacy drivers, and get an error back saying that no such hardware exists (when I use the legacy) and when I install the non legacy driver, the system boots normally, I just can't see anything on my screen, its just black, (I can hear the system prompting me to login though) Any help wou
[05:38] <pwilson> ld be greatly apprieciated.
[05:38] <imbecile> ok guys, I installed kismet but do not see it in the applications menu, can someone tell me why?
[05:38] <harushimo> does ubuntu have a feature where you can run linux on cd like knoppix?
[05:39] <ublender> pwilson: I believe there is a special geforce go driver, although i'm not sure
[05:39] <harushimo> I was wondering
[05:39] <Aggort> harushimo: Yes
[05:39] <paguilera> kitche: Thanks.  But when I type in gdc, it says command not found.
[05:39] <kitche> harushimo: umm that's what the desktop-cd is it's a livecd and the installer
[05:39] <ublender> harushimo: yes, the standard install cd is also a live cd
[05:39] <imbecile> harushimo,  yes the install cd is a live cd
[05:39] <kitche> !gdb
[05:39] <ubotu> gdb: The GNU Debugger. In component main, is optional. Version 6.4.90.dfsg-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 2315 kB, installed size 5108 kB
[05:39] <kitche> paguilera: it's that gdb :)
[05:40] <LucianSolaris> pwilson do you see console text when you switch ttys?
[05:40] <kitche> paguilera: just point it at the core dump and it should debug it
[05:40] <LucianSolaris> like ctrl+alt+F[1-6] ?
[05:40] <paguilera> kitche: Oh, sorry.  gdb, not gdc.  sorry.
[05:40] <pwilson> Its as if the non legacy driver tells x to start on the seconday monitor (even though there is none installed), because when I attach a secondary monitor, the monitor blacks out and reports that it can't support that resolution.
[05:40] <Silver_Seagull> So I've tried 6.10 and 6.06- really I'd prefer 6.06, but both fail to init the xserver.  THey give an error about not being able to start- I checked my xorg.conf file and it's using the vesa driver for my ATi x1900xtx.  Not sure why it's dying.
[05:40] <imbecile> ok guys, I installed kismet but do not see it in the applications menu, can someone tell me why?
[05:40] <ublender> so, is/can ayone help me with compiling pspvc...
[05:40] <LucianSolaris> pwilson, answer my question...
[05:40] <paguilera> kitche: How can I capture the core dump?  Is it stored in a particular location?
[05:40] <pwilson> Yes, Lucian, I do.
[05:40] <kitche> paguilera: I said gdc also since I m working with D programming language which is what gdc is for
[05:41] <kitche> paguilera: should be in ~
[05:41] <pwilson> when I go to init 1 for example?
[05:41] <paguilera> kitche: Ok, thanks.  sorry about the confusion.  I'm going to try to find it now.
[05:41] <harushimo> that's what I thought but it didn't work on my computer
[05:41] <LucianSolaris> ok, go to a console pwilson, and login, then type dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:41] <LucianSolaris> follow the prompts
[05:41] <LucianSolaris> then try to start the x server again
[05:41] <cybercod> aggort... this is probably nothing to do with it... but in your bios... is virus protection turned on?
[05:41] <LucianSolaris> if it don't work, pm me
[05:42] <Asc> Silver_Seagull: The ati driver worked okay for my ATI card.
[05:42] <pwilson> I'll try that, thanks lucian, what so you think the problem is?
[05:42] <cybercod> do you recall?
[05:42] <Aggort> cybercod: I unno
[05:42] <Aggort> I think not
[05:42] <LucianSolaris> oh, and one more thing pwilson, are you sure you're on the correct head?
[05:42] <LucianSolaris> like are you sure head1 isn't really head2 (if it's a dual head card"
[05:42] <LucianSolaris> *)
[05:42] <Silver_Seagull> Asc: This is on the installation CD- I can't even get into the GUI to install Ubuntu.
[05:42] <harushimo> do I need more of current version of ubuntu
[05:42] <cybercod> next time you're in there.. make sure it is not.... it could be part of the culprit... keeping grub from installing properly because it thinks it is a virus
[05:42] <cybercod> i shall keep reading for a moment
[05:42] <Silver_Seagull> Asc: It's all autoconfiged to vesa
[05:42] <Aggort> k
[05:43] <MSTK> hi all.  I heard that some PC distributors keep a Disk image of the XP Installation CD on the hard drive, to save costs of actually creating a CD.  Now I need the CD...where do I find the disk image?
[05:43] <pwilson> Lucian, its a laptop, the generic driver points to the built in disp, but when I install nvidia-glx, it appears to move it off of built in display, AND attempt to go to some insane resolution that my 30 inch external monitor cannot support.
[05:43] <Asc> Silver_Seagull: Hit ctrl-alt-F1 to get to a terminal, 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg', select the ATI driver, and go through the configuration.  Then kill gdm and run 'gdm'.
[05:43] <kitche> MSTK: you need to use a type of program what is your computer maker
[05:44] <LameBMX> MSTK, it should have a general restore cd that will do that for you
[05:44] <imbecile> ok guys, I installed kismet but do not see it in the applications menu, can someone tell me why?
[05:44] <Asc> silver_seagull: if the ati driver isn't listed, apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati
[05:44] <kitche> LameBMX: some companies don't make the cd
[05:44] <MSTK> kitche - it's a Vaio
[05:44] <MSTK> PC
[05:44] <LucianSolaris> ok, pwilson, go through the dpkg-reconfigure and select all the applicable options for setting up the xserver
[05:44] <kitche> MSTK: ah might do some googling I only know about HP
[05:44] <johny5> Hello, I'm looking for a group-based p2p sharing app, like grouper, for linux.  Anyone know of any?
[05:44] <ublender> does anybody have a copy of ffmpeg that has extra-codecs?
[05:44] <LameBMX> no not an os cd .. a restore cd
[05:44] <MSTK> LameBMX - I'm not sure if I got one.  If I did, then chances are I stupidly mispaced it.
[05:44] <LucianSolaris> i think your xserver is trying to use your second monitor at an insane res
[05:44] <kitche> LameBMX: yes some companies don't make them
[05:45] <LameBMX> have the tools on it to restore the partiion
[05:45] <kitche> LameBMX: for example HP
[05:45] <rc-1> is there a way to make firefox crash?
[05:45] <pwilson> Lucian, one more q, can I just install the nvidia driver, and use that command from terminal inside gnome, then restart x?
[05:45] <LucianSolaris> i had the issue when my laptop screen went out and i wanted to use an external monitor, but i almost couldn't get x to quit using the panel and use just the monitor
[05:45] <quasicolon> ublender: and others: I'm having trouble getting codecs installed
[05:45] <cybercod> aggort... what brand drive is it?  fujitsu supposedly has problems like that sometimes
[05:45] <kitche> rc-1 kinda bug in firefox and flash
[05:45] <zcat[1] > rc-1: killall -11 firefox-bin ?
[05:45] <Silver_Seagull> Asc: I had seen that but wanted to ask if there was a known issue with ATI cards/DVI+LCD/other issue :)  I'll give it a go anyways, thanks.
[05:45] <rc-1> zcat[1] , thanks
[05:45] <LucianSolaris> uh, i'd recommend you use just a command prompt until you've set up X
[05:45] <Aggort> cybercod as did maxtor, but mine is a seagate
[05:46] <quasicolon> have you had success getting totem to play a lot of formats
[05:46] <Aggort> I;m sorry Westernd Digital
[05:46] <LameBMX> nah hp went with a unified disk to save costs ... everything is on the disk .. but the disk only installs what you got based on the mobos tattoo
[05:46] <cybercod> ok.. still reading
[05:46] <Aggort> k
[05:46] <ublender> quasicolon: are you talking about like audio video codecs, or just ffmpeg?
[05:46] <LameBMX> :)
[05:46] <LucianSolaris> ok, pwilson, i need to go, so can you find someone else to help you?
[05:46] <pwilson> I'm currently using x with the generic vesa driver, just wondering if I could do it all at once, before I fark my x server.
[05:46] <kitche> LameBMX: I had to make the dvd's myself
[05:46] <LucianSolaris> i hope i got you on the right track
[05:46] <imbecile> ok guys, I installed kismet but do not see it in the applications menu, can someone tell me why?
[05:46] <pwilson> Sure, thanks lucian.
[05:46] <LucianSolaris> please, just use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:46] <LameBMX> yea i had to retattoo a few mobos myself
[05:47] <quasicolon> ublender: divx and mp3 and a lot of codecs that I thought were part of ffmpeg
[05:47] <LucianSolaris> np
[05:47] <LucianSolaris> /me, out
[05:47] <quasicolon> but ive installed totem-xine and ffmpeg
[05:47] <imbecile> hello, is this thing on?
[05:47] <Asc> silver_seagull: Not to my knowledge, but it's possible.  However, the only time I did try to configure xorg with a DVI/LCD, it detected the monitor okay.
[05:47] <ublender> quasicolon: go to wiki.ubuntu.com and type "codecs" in the search bar
[05:47] <cybercod> aggort... you may need to check that the partitions are marked as "active"
[05:47] <nvez> hey, whats the limit for non-lba48 os's?
[05:47] <LameBMX> maybe some low line or something .. but ive never setup a computer that didnt have a cd (ive seen some that basically just copy the partition over vs having the os on the disc
[05:47] <ublender> quasicolon: i'm sure that will get you started on the right track
[05:48] <Aggort> cybercod: How?
[05:48] <LameBMX> 124GB or something nvez
[05:48] <Silver_Seagull> Asc: It detects my Syncmaster fine, but there are sections I wasn't sure about.  eg, it tries to set my monitor to 175MHz!
[05:48] <nvez> ah
[05:48] <nvez> thanks
[05:48] <nvez> anyways, brb, installing ubuntuuuu
[05:48] <kitche> LameBMX: this computer costs $1k it's a media pc I have a partition also but wanted a rescue cd
[05:48] <ublender> what i need, is a custom compiled version of ffmepg that has faac and x264 support, if someone has one
[05:48] <quasicolon> imbecile: have you checked the systems menu?
[05:48] <Silver_Seagull> Asc: I know for a fact it doesn't go above 75 for 1440x900
[05:49] <quasicolon> imbecile: you could probably find where it exists in your system path by running "which kismet" and manually add it to your menu
[05:49] <whileimhere> Hi. I am trying to use GXINE and on its setup wizard it says that I need to check for a MIT Xv extention. Anyone have a clue what this is?
[05:49] <LameBMX> kitche, u sure you didnt misplace it ... ive set up more than a few of those ... and had to retattoo others due to mobo defect
[05:49] <imbecile> quasicolon,  thanks but how do i add icon?
[05:50] <Amadeo> is there any way to make applications in my bottom panel have fixed width?
[05:50] <kitche> LameBMX: umm no since I just had to press F10 at the bios to start recovery mode
[05:50] <Asc> silver_seagull: Well... I don't think so.  You might try the 'medium' option when it gets to monitor configuration, and select the appropriate resolution and refresh.
[05:50] <ublender> whileimhere: i'm not sure about gxine, but may i suggest xine-ui?
[05:50] <whileimhere> Is that better?
[05:50] <ublender> well, i've never had any problems with it
[05:50] <kitche> LameBMX: then it goes to the restore partition and starts restoring no dvd involved
[05:50] <LameBMX> and you didnt get a disk with it
[05:50] <socorrista_ach> may someone help?
[05:51] <socorrista_ach> is it possible to run windows games in linux ubuntu?
[05:51] <LameBMX> everyone ive setup has had a disc with the documentation
[05:51] <moshe> ok...
[05:51] <eetfunk> where can i find a mirror list for apt-get?
[05:51] <Silver_Seagull> Asc: /me thinks more dev time is needed on hardware auto-detection for all distros.  That or some public whipping of hardware manufactureres for specs ;)   Thanks for the help, I'll bbl
[05:51] <zcat[1] > socorrista_ach: depends on the game
[05:51] <LameBMX> !wine | socorrista_ach
[05:51] <ubotu> socorrista_ach: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:51] <cybercod> one moment aggort... i'm having to get gparted
[05:51] <socorrista_ach> carbon for example
[05:51] <LameBMX> !cedega | socorrista_ach
[05:51] <ubotu> socorrista_ach: cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[05:51] <kitche> LameBMX: nope since, but anyways this computer is less then a year old that I had to create the rescue dvd for
[05:51] <Aggort> cybercod: aren't you one Ubuntu
[05:51] <socorrista_ach> wine isnt enough
[05:51] <Aggort> ?
[05:51] <ublender> !ffmpeg
[05:51] <ubotu> ffmpeg: multimedia player, server and encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:0.cvs20060823-3.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 175 kB, installed size 612 kB
[05:51] <moshe> must I include hostnames in /etc/hosts for each machine that I want to have access my server by hostname?
[05:51] <kitche> LameBMX: I just had to hit F10 before the computer booted and it went into rescue and started to restore
[05:52] <socorrista_ach> but i read somwhere that there was something
[05:52] <LameBMX> hmmm ... ive just set a bunch up ... im not sayin you didnt get a disk ...
[05:52] <zcat[1] > socorrista_ach: dual-boot or get a console. It's easier :)
[05:52] <cybercod> i'm in xp... on a client's machine (i do repair work) ... my 4-year-old's PC is on ubuntu though.
[05:52] <LameBMX> and everyone ive done had a disk ... and like it matters HP blows
[05:52] <erisco> how do you spell "ary"... "arri"... "arie"... like it has gone "ary" ?
[05:52] <socorrista_ach> how do i do that?im a newbie
[05:52] <cybercod> i just don't have gparted on it...
[05:52] <LameBMX> pardon my french
[05:52] <cybercod> my wife is using the main machine... playing WoW via cedega
[05:53] <kitche> LameBMX: my computer I got a disk also but on hp website it also says for the media pc I had to create it myself
[05:53] <kitche> LameBMX: or pay for one to be sent
[05:53] <Aggort> cybercod: I plan on doing that lol
[05:53] <imbecile> quasicolon,  it says its in /usr/bin/kismet but the directory isnt there
[05:54] <LameBMX> kitche, see .. thats just shady ... add to that a line of mobos that died within 30 days ... much much better off to build your own lol
[05:54] <ublender> what i need, is a custom compiled version of ffmepg that has faac and x264 support, if someone has one
[05:54] <cybercod> she's actually bugging me to watch a movie with her... so i may have to get back with you later on this if gparted can't do the trick... its installed... just a moment while I look
[05:54] <cybercod> i know that fdisk can do it... the windows fdisk... i dunno about the linux fdisk
[05:54] <Aggort> cybercod ok
[05:55] <Aggort> cybercod: yea
[05:55] <kitche> LameBMX: I usually buy cheap com,puters myself my computer costed under 300 bucks brand new
[05:56] <break_> buildign your own pc ftw
[05:56] <LameBMX> eh .. im trapped in build my own land ..
[05:56] <n2diy> kitche: why buy computers, this time of year you can find them at the curb for free.
[05:56] <carkeys> building your ow nis the only way to go
[05:56] <ublender> is it odd when gcc completely freezes ubuntu?
[05:56] <kitche> n2diy: my computer is 4 years old
[05:56] <LameBMX> my 3 year old comp behaves much better than anything ive had to work on so far
[05:56] <break_> the only disadvantage to building your own system is that you get quite a good price
[05:56] <cybercod> aggort
[05:56] <pulaski> Hello, I've been running ubuntu 6.06LTS with kernel 2.6.15-27-386 on the kde-desktop for only a little while.  I'm trying to install a package that will add a kernel module.  It's a package that will let me connect to my TI-84+ SE calculator.  The README.Debian tells me I need to know where the kernel sources are located.   The README suggests /usr/src/linux but that doesn't exist on my box.
[05:56] <break_> you basically get windows for free haha
[05:56] <LameBMX> abit ic7 max3 w00t w00t
[05:56] <n2diy> kitche: mine is 10
[05:56] <cybercod> open up the gnome partition manager
[05:56] <Aggort> cyvercod
[05:56] <Aggort> k
[05:57] <Aggort> open
[05:57] <cybercod> select the first partition
[05:57] <kitche> n2diy: and it's illegal to put a computer at a curb in New York State you have to take them to the dump
[05:57] <break_> i fell asleep on my couch
[05:57] <cybercod> of dev/hda
[05:57] <break_> i'm going to go to bed
[05:57] <pulaski> Where are the kernel sources located on ubuntu 6.10LTS?
[05:57] <cybercod> right click it and hit information
[05:57] <kitche> pulaski: have to install them
[05:57] <n2diy> kitche: monitors yes, but the system box too?
[05:57] <kitche> n2diy: yes since they have lead in them
[05:58] <riotkittie> my husband just tossed a < p1
[05:58] <cybercod> look next to "flags"
[05:58] <cybercod> what does it say there
[05:58] <Aggort> boot
[05:58] <n2diy> kitche: bummer, time to move to Pa. :)
[05:58] <cybercod> ok.. thats not it...
[05:58] <cybercod> :D
[05:58] <pulaski> hmmm kitche, are they available through adept?
[05:58] <LameBMX> ouch .. riotkittie now what holds your doors open?
[05:58] <Aggort> lol
[05:58] <jrib> pulaski: what package is this (I'm curious)?  You need to install the package to get the linux source, you probably just need the headers
[05:58] <Aggort> the rest don't have one
[05:58] <kitche> pulaski: yes it's either linux-tree or linux-source
[05:58] <cybercod> are the other partitions primary or in the extended area?
[05:59] <Aggort> all are primary
[05:59] <cybercod> i'm guessing you have 3?
[05:59] <bharath> Feisty problem: At GNOME startup "HAL not initialized" is displayed. Googling revealed it as a DBUS problem and an old solution exists -- but that did not work on feisty.
[05:59] <Aggort> indeed
[05:59] <pulaski> jrib its the tidev-modules-source package
[05:59] <Aggort> Windows, Swap, Root
[05:59] <jrib> pulaski: thanks
[05:59] <cybercod> ok.  wait a moment... reading
[05:59] <Aggort> k
[05:59] <riotkittie> LameBMX, -- shhh. i wanted to keep it ;(
[05:59] <kitche> n2diy: anyways I have 5 computer shells in my basement I cna use one is a pentium 2 ran well until the processor died on it
[06:00] <LameBMX> riotkittie, k ill keep it down ..
[06:00] <riotkittie> hehehe
[06:00] <alfish> hehehe?
[06:00] <pulaski> thanks kitche I'll look around
[06:00] <kitche> anyways I m getting off for now so I can watch Adult Swim
[06:01] <cybercod> aggort.. did you try the recovery mode of the windows disk,.... and enter in    fixboot?
[06:01] <LameBMX> i had a gateway .. first computer ... couldnt play games .. ditched it build a 2.4p4a and gigabyte mobo... that was next to junk but could play games ...
[06:01] <LameBMX> so i gave that to a friend
[06:01] <Aggort> cybercod: I can't get to it
[06:01] <cybercod> ?
[06:01] <CarCase928> hello, how do i use ubuntu as a proxy server?
[06:01] <cybercod> why not?
[06:02] <n2diy> kitche: roger that, this is my hot box, a dual p111/333 mhz machine, with 256 m of ram, and I did pay for it, $120 including a 17" monitor, mouse, keyboard, etc...
[06:02] <cybercod> you can't boot from windows install disk?
[06:02] <VIMmer> hi, i do some PHP developement, and i have always got multiple projects going on at the same time. so in the /var/www/ folder i have created a subdirectry called 'OtherSites' were i store all other sites and when I am working on one particular one, i copy the files from the particular folder to /var/www/ and then work on it
[06:02] <Aggort> cybercod: I can't get past grub to choose recover console and the isntall CD requires I have a restore floppy and I don't have one
[06:02] <acerbix> Question: Is there any way to set up mirror repositories? I am trying to update Fiesty after install, and speeds are s-l-ooooooooooooooo-w. Synaptic tells me it will take 3 days. Are there any mirrors?
[06:02] <LameBMX> when i built my max 3 ... then just to be fair (cuz im a computer n00b) .. i built a barton box with basically same level parts as my p4 .(msi w/ kt600 chipset )..
[06:02] <cybercod> no... that's not the repair console you want... its AFTER that one
[06:02] <LameBMX> then i gave up the barton box for a security deposite
[06:02] <Aggort> cybercod: ?
[06:03] <VIMmer> i find it too tedious, and someone told me that i cud just change the docroot for Apache everytime i work on a project, and that would solve my probelm
[06:03] <n2diy> kitche: forget dragging stuff to the dump, check out www.freecycle. com, and let folks come and get your stuff.
[06:03] <VIMmer> can anyone tel me what change to make?
[06:03] <n2diy> kitche: forget dragging stuff to the dump, check out www.freecycle.com, and let folks come and get your stuff.
[06:03] <cybercod> there's the AUTOMATED SYSTEM RECOVERY CONSOLE... that is not what you're wanting
[06:03] <dougb> does anyone here have any experience with LTSP?
[06:03] <Aggort> cybercod: I know
[06:03] <cybercod> hmmm...
[06:03] <riotkittie> freecycle rocks
[06:04] <riotkittie> which reminds me, i should be approving posts :P brb
[06:04] <Pie-rate> My laptop's 802.11g wireless works under ubuntu, however it doesn't work at low signal levels. Windows wireless works here, ubuntu can't connect. Is there any way to try to force it to boost its output power?
[06:04] <nikosapi> Is it possible to tell the kernel to not detect my raid array at boot time? It freezes when it detects it :-(
[06:04] <n2diy> riotkittie: roger that, is it .com or .org?
[06:04] <imbecile> does kismet have to be started in terminal?
[06:04] <n2diy> imbecile, can you find it in a menu?
[06:04] <Pie-rate> or am i boned until i put in an access point here?
[06:04] <riotkittie> .org. though i log in through yahoo groups
[06:04] <imbecile> n2diy,  nope
[06:05] <n2diy> imbecile, well, what other choice do you have?
[06:05] <Aggort> cybercod: put it this way there is no screen at all that I can access that let's me type in a console!
[06:05] <imbecile> n2diy,  thats why i was asking
[06:06] <n2diy> riotkittie: ok, as soon as I posted the link, I had my doubts.
[06:06] <Aggort> anyone new in her know much about boot sectors
[06:06] <Aggort> ?
[06:06] <riotkittie> hehehe ;)
[06:06] <cM0ss> How do I turn off powernowd in Dapper. You can do it easy in Edgy in the 'services' app....I cant find a way to do it in Dapper.
[06:06] <Master_Joda> hello
[06:07] <Master_Joda> some other ubuntu users says ubuntu server
[06:07] <Pie-rate> Anyone here know a lot about wireless drivers (>>>no, this is not a plea for someone to type !wifi, and that stupid bot needs to die in a fire<<<)
[06:07] <n2diy> imbecile, there maybe other ways to start it, at boot up, or with a cron job, but I don't know how to do stuff like thate.
[06:07] <n2diy> thate/that
[06:07] <Pie-rate> My laptop's 802.11g wireless works under ubuntu, however it doesn't work at low signal levels. Windows wireless works here, ubuntu can't connect. Is there any way to try to force it to boost its output power?
[06:07] <Master_Joda> need more time to be consider a serious option to deploy
[06:07] <Aggort> cybercod:? ?
[06:08] <Master_Joda> other prefer centos
[06:08] <bikini> does anyone know how to use ndiswrapper here?
[06:08] <Master_Joda> i like to believe ubuntu will be fine
[06:08] <castoff> Pie-rate what chipset and is there a firmware upgrade?
[06:08] <cybercod> sorry.. was reading..
[06:08] <bikini> and feel like helpin me out?
[06:08] <cM0ss> How do I turn off powernowd in Dapper. You can do it easy in Edgy in the 'services' app....I cant find a way to do it in Dapper.
[06:08] <Aggort> cybercod: jsut making sure
[06:08] <riotkittie> fine for what, Master_Joda ?
[06:09] <cybercod> Hmmm.... you know... one thing you COULD do....
[06:09] <Master_Joda> to build appliance server
[06:09] <Aggort> uh oh what?
[06:09] <Master_Joda> like
[06:09] <Master_Joda> firewalls
[06:09] <Master_Joda> antivirus
[06:09] <Lunch> Is there a gui to enable a second monitor?
[06:09] <Master_Joda> proxys
[06:09] <Pie-rate> Castoff: mmm, its an atheros AR5005G, I don't know if there's a firmware upgrade...
[06:09] <bikini> after you install a windows driver through ndiswrapper, then what/
[06:09] <bikini> ?
[06:09] <Master_Joda> maybe voip server
[06:10] <Master_Joda> what do you think
[06:10] <cM0ss> How do I turn off powernowd in Dapper. You can do it easy in Edgy in the 'services' app....I cant find a way to do it in Dapper.
[06:10] <riotkittie> cM0ss, >> sudo /etc/init.d/powernowd stop
[06:10] <Aggort> give me anythign cybercod
[06:10] <cM0ss> thanks.... a bunch..  =] 
[06:10] <riotkittie> :)
[06:11] <cybercod> in the live disk, where you first start it up, there's the options to change the grub boot options...  you could write down what your /boot/grub/menu.list says for your ubuntu installation, and type that into the Live disk boot options instead of what is there... and force-boot into linux... then perhaps you could re-install grub FROM your linux installation... maybe making better progress....
[06:11] <zcat[1] > cM0ss: you might also want to go into /etc/rc2.d and rename S??powernowd to K??powernowd
[06:11] <nvez> hello
[06:11] <Aggort> cybercod: Why would that help exactly?
[06:11] <cM0ss> sudo: etc/init.d/powernowd: command not found
[06:11] <cybercod> but we'll have to try that later... i'm goin to go watch "lady in the water"   I'll be back in a couple hours.
[06:12] <Aggort> WAIT
[06:12] <Aggort> omg
[06:12] <Aggort> don;rt qwatch that movie
[06:12] <Aggort> lol
[06:12] <pulaski> g'night
[06:12] <Aggort> it sucks!
[06:12] <cybercod> I am not sure... but its a possibility.
[06:12] <Aggort> lol
[06:12] <cM0ss> zcat[1] , Ok...I'll try it...I'll be back to let you know if it works.
[06:12] <cybercod> that it may change something... not that the movie sucks.. which is also a possibility.. but not the one I was speaking of
[06:12] <n2diy> cMOss: sudo /etc...
[06:12] <Aggort> lol
[06:12] <riotkittie> /etc/ not etc/   make sure you have the beginning /
[06:12] <Aggort> ok
[06:12] <Aggort> well shit
[06:13] <cybercod> my woman is seriously going to kill me.
[06:13] <Aggort> I have to go to bed
[06:13] <cybercod> ?
[06:13] <Aggort> lol
[06:13] <cybercod> now thats dedication for you
[06:13] <Aggort> tell her I am verry sorry
[06:13] <Aggort> I know hwos he feels
[06:13] <cybercod> you gotta go to bed?
[06:13] <Aggort> yea, I am in the East Coast and I have work
[06:13] <Aggort> in the morning
[06:13] <riotkittie> its only 12:13 ;p
[06:14] <dutch_scholtz> im compiling my kernel, and i have a core 2 duo. what processor family would that fall under (in 2.6.19)?
[06:14] <n2diy> riotkittie: your pretty sharp, but a tad slow. :)
[06:14] <Aggort> true
[06:14] <castoff> Pie-rate: what is the name brand on the card please?
[06:14] <Aggort> I gotta awake at 5
[06:14] <cybercod> ok... perhaps see you tomorrow... if not... ask others in here how to fix or replace your boot sector.... thats where the problem lies
[06:14] <cM0ss> riotkittie, yep...sorry...I missed my / ....it worked...thanks again...
[06:14] <Aggort> ty very much
[06:14] <Aggort> I hope to see you tomorrow
[06:14] <Pie-rate> castoff: Atheros AR5005G
[06:14] <cybercod> can I get your email? maybe I will find something later on tonite
[06:14] <Pie-rate> castoff: its an acer lappy
[06:14] <Aggort> Should I try deleteing the qwindows partition?
[06:14] <cybercod> If it were me I'd format the whole damn drive
[06:15] <dutch_scholtz> does anyone know what processor family a core 2 duo is in the 2.6.19 kernel?
[06:15] <riotkittie> n2diy,  i know. i am using the qwerty keyboard layout for some reason ;p and typing like 20 wpm after corrections
[06:15] <nvez> while installing, my mouse is disappared, but it works (when i put over an icon, it shines, etc0
[06:15] <nvez> i just cant see it
[06:15] <dutch_scholtz> would it be Athlon64?
[06:15] <zcat[1] > if you have to ask what kind of CPU belongs in what family, you probably shouldn't be compiling your own kernels...
[06:15] <riotkittie> and oh man, am i correcting.  :/
[06:15] <nvez> any service or something icould try?
[06:15] <riotkittie> hahahaha zcat[1] 
[06:15] <cybercod> you can take off any esential files via the live disk by mounting the win partition using "Disks"
[06:15] <castoff> Pie-rate: was trying to find it in supported hardware...can't seem to...still looking
[06:15] <n2diy> riotkittie: roger on the qwerty, dvorak is my layout.
[06:15] <dutch_scholtz> well, there isnt any proper option for it, and currently there is confusion in the matter
[06:15] <Aggort> cybercod, nothing is essential it's a fresh install
[06:15] <cybercod> you can burn via the live disk as well...
[06:15] <dutch_scholtz> zcat[1] : have you compiled recently? theres confusion as to what it is...
[06:16] <Aggort> cybercod I know
[06:16] <cybercod> wipe it all then.... and start fresh...
[06:16] <Pie-rate> castoff: it won't be there, tons of wireless things arent
[06:16] <dutch_scholtz> zcat[1] : no options fit it well
[06:16] <Aggort> including Ubuntu?
[06:16] <cybercod> try ubuntu only
[06:16] <riotkittie> yeah, i recently switched to dvorak and am kicking myself for not having done in sooner
[06:16] <cM0ss> riotkittie, is there any reason that simple command can't be found in any 'easy to find' location on the Ubuntu help sites?
[06:16] <Aggort> I want to
[06:16] <Aggort> ok
[06:16] <cybercod> wipe it ALL... try installing ubuntu by itself
[06:16] <Aggort> ttyl my friend
[06:16] <Aggort> ok
[06:16] <Aggort> Sure will
[06:16] <zcat[1] > I haven't neede to compile a kernel for _years_ .. occasionally I compile a module or two, even that's getting pretty rare.
[06:16] <castoff> Pie-rate: was hoping it was ;-)
[06:16] <cybercod> but i'm serious... wipe it all.. the whole drive
[06:16] <Aggort> through gparted?
[06:16] <Aggort> I will
[06:16] <nikosapi> if you set for example hde=noprobe when booting the kernel is it possible to then enable the drive after booting up?
[06:16] <cybercod> it could fix the boot problem
[06:16] <Aggort> through gparted
[06:16] <itsmabus> How can I merge two files, skipping duplicate lines?
[06:17] <cybercod> yes. thru gparted... then re-install
[06:17] <Aggort> thank you
[06:17] <Aggort> if not?
[06:17] <Aggort> then we know it HAS to be the boot sector
[06:17] <Jj> hello
[06:17] <cybercod> if I knew your windows install was fresh I would have suggested that an hour ago
[06:17] <Aggort> LMFAO
[06:17] <nvez> while installing, my mouse is disappared, but it works (when i put over an icon, it shines, etc)  -- any suggestions?
[06:17] <Aggort> sorry for wasting your time?
[06:17] <Jj> has anyone had problems with pydance?
[06:17] <cybercod> yes.. if that doesn't work, get  a new drive... and use that one for media or whatever
[06:18] <riotkittie> cM0ss > dunno. but if i had to venture a guess, it'd be that either 1 - with the amount of information available on those sites, none of it is easy to find
[06:18] <zcat[1] > Jj: Yep. it's totally alpha software...
[06:18] <n2diy> riotkittie: roger on correcting, what is the most used key, on any keyboard?
[06:18] <MSTK> um...my Add/Install Programs dialog just crashed.
[06:18] <Aggort> Really? A new drive? Why?
[06:18] <cybercod> because if the boot sector is failing... the rest of the drive probably isn't far behind
[06:18] <craig-griffis_> Ok fstab in Ubuntu is very different to RedHat what in this line makes this a RO file system and how do I make it RW   # /dev/hdb1
[06:18] <craig-griffis_> UUID=BE601D4B601D0BB1 /media/hdb1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[06:18] <Aggort> cybercod
[06:18] <Aggort> Oh no
[06:18] <imbecile> !universe
[06:18] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:18] <Aggort> you don;t understand
[06:18] <MSTK> is that a bad thing?
[06:18] <Administrator> Hi linux fans
[06:18] <riotkittie> on mine, at the moment, backspace, n2diy :P
[06:18] <Aggort> this tghhing has been doing this for a very long time
[06:18] <cybercod> ?
[06:18] <Lunch> How do I enable my second monitor?
[06:18] <cybercod> ok... its your data
[06:18] <Aggort> lol
[06:18] <n2diy> riotkittie: yep!
[06:18] <zcat[1] > damn it is so HOT here today!!!
[06:18] <Jj> i used to be able to play pydance in gentoo...
[06:19] <Aggort> I am keen on back up so don;t worry
[06:19] <Jj> not in ubuntu i eget this message
[06:19] <Administrator> ?
[06:19] <Jj> pygame.error: mixer system not initialize
[06:19] <jrib> itsmabus: comm   maybe?  I'm not sure I understand exactly what you are doing
[06:19] <Aggort> valuable data is stored on an extrernal 80 gig hard drive
[06:19] <craig-griffis_> !fstab
[06:19] <cybercod> but give that a shot... go ahead and do it before bed... it doesn't take long to format... and the install is pretty quick... then tomorrow you can let me know what happened
[06:19] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[06:19] <zcat[1] > I never got pydance to work reliably. sad, it seemed to have potential.
[06:19] <Aggort> I sure will
[06:19] <cybercod> you can write me at     straightshootincomputin@yahoo.com
[06:19] <Aggort> thank you again
[06:19] <hagabaka> could anyone tell me if http://supybot.com/ renders correctly in Konqueror, if you have the latest official package?
[06:19] <Pie-rate> Where would the configuration for the Atheros drivers be?
[06:19] <cybercod> put aggort as the subject
[06:20] <itsmabus> jrib: that's perfect, thanks
[06:20] <Jj> damn...
[06:20] <MSTK> hm...my Add/Remove Programs dialog just froze up
[06:20] <Administrator> how can i change my name?
[06:20] <Aggort> I'll keep that on hand
[06:20] <MSTK> is that a bad thing?
[06:20] <cybercod> good night
[06:20] <Jj> is it possible to have nvidia legacy and non-legacy driver at the same time?
[06:20] <castoff> Administrator /nick new_name
[06:20] <Aggort> goodnight
[06:20] <riotkittie> MSTK, kill it and reload it. probably nothing major
[06:20] <Jj> i have 2 nvidia cards, and one of them needs the legacy driver
[06:20] <zcat[1] > Jj: you have two nvidia cards?
[06:20] <NickCz> can someone help me get my xvid movie to work
[06:20] <Jj> zcat[1] : yup, a TNT2 PCI and a gforce 5200
[06:20] <cybercod> Jj i saw something about that on  ubuntuforums.org
[06:21] <cybercod> have you looked there?
[06:21] <zcat[1] > Jj: I don't think you can have both driveers since the module has the same name. Perhaps the legacy driver will work with the later card tho?
[06:21] <Jj> i googled
[06:21] <d_bug> hi...
[06:21] <jrib> !xvid | NickCz
[06:21] <ubotu> NickCz: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:21] <yakumo> hi i have trouble regarding fsck, everytime  when it check for errors i notice that my file get corrupted, like my movie files, iso files... any idea how to fix it??
[06:21] <cybercod> be back later ppl
[06:22] <yakumo> hi i have trouble regarding auto fsck, everytime  when it check for errors i notice that my file get corrupted, like my movie files, iso files... any idea how to fix it??
[06:22] <MSTK> riotkittie - How do I kill it?
[06:22] <Jj> te nvidia legacy driver should have a different name >_<
[06:22] <MSTK> i tried looking it up on the system monitor, but it doesn't seem to be listed.  If it is, it's under a different name
[06:23] <lufis> What's a good window manager?
[06:23] <MSTK> lufis - Beryl works fine for me
[06:23] <Pie-rate> damnit i should have kept notes on WTF i did when i was getting this laptop working
[06:23] <lufis> MSTK: well, i'm not big on eyecandy
[06:23] <riotkittie> MSTK, type xkill in a term  ...  an icon should pop up - i believe its a skull and crossbones -   and then click on the frozen window
[06:23] <MSTK> lufis - you don't need the eye candy.  just disable it
[06:23] <lufis> MSTK: ah, didn't know that
[06:23] <nn531> zero_chaos: you there?
[06:24] <zcat[1] > xkill? shudder...
[06:24] <jrib> lufis: why not just use metacity that's default in GNOME?
[06:24] <riotkittie> i thought the whole point of beryl was the eye candy.
[06:24] <MSTK> lufis - Under the settings, each feature has a check box that you can check on or off
[06:24] <nn531> !spoof
[06:24] <n2diy> For six years I've been trying to figure out how to switch keyboard layouts at a console, today, thanks to #ubuntu, I learned the command is loadkeys. That command isn't listed in any of my references, so thanks #ubuntu!
[06:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spoof - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:24] <lufis> jrib: Well, metacity works fine, i just want to try something different as a learning experience
[06:24] <MSTK> riotkittie - where do I type xkill?
[06:25] <zcat[1] > riotkittie: a little eyecandy is nice.. bery'ls default tries to show off every possible feature and it's just too much!
[06:25] <MSTK> zcat[1]  - come on, you can't possibly be telling me that wobbly windows are the most productive thing ever :)
[06:25] <MSTK> *aren't
[06:25] <imbecile> !universe
[06:25] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:25] <riotkittie> i just xkilled xchat because i am xdumb
[06:26] <zcat[1] > That genie swirl effect hs trippled my productivity, I tell ya!!
[06:26] <jrib> lufis: ah, in that case:  fluxbox (or any of the other boxes), fvwm, icewm, ratpoison, ... there's one more I liked but i forget the name :( ...  are fun to try
[06:26] <MSTK> I'm sorry, where do I type xkill again?  Sorry if the answer is simple and right in front of my eyes
[06:26] <zcat[1] > MSTK: alt-F2
[06:26] <MSTK> oh
[06:27] <zcat[1] > terminal, scherminal...
[06:27] <n2diy> A couple of days ago, someone asked how to load extended characters, I knew how to do it in RH, but couldn't find the answer here, or anywhere I looked. This afternoon someone asked the queston again, the trick is ctrl+shift+u, but... hold down ctrl+shift, while you enter the charcter code. 
[06:27] <secleinteer> hey, does anyone know how i would recognize/mount a sata hard drive i plugged into my box while it was on?
[06:27] <perky_> speaking of beryl, anyone know how to get menus to go ontop? i must have accidently ticked something.. and now popups appear behind applications :/
[06:27] <riotkittie> i wish i had a video card that could handle wobbly windows
[06:27] <LameBMX> awwww
[06:27] <perky_> too many options :|
[06:27] <MSTK> wobbly windows are the defining feature of Ubuntu
[06:27] <LameBMX> perky_,
[06:27] <MSTK> they're the only reason I switched
[06:28] <LameBMX> oopps .. perky main settings ... look for steal focus prevention
[06:28] <quasicolon> imbecile: right click on the menu you want to add it to 'edit menus'
[06:28] <zcat[1] > mine kinda handles beryl, but can't do any GL or SDL stuff at the same time... sad. I think I need a better card.
[06:29] <riotkittie>  i think my card has 8mb of ram. ohhhh yeah.
[06:29] <LameBMX> perky_, okay what version
[06:29] <riotkittie> < living it up
[06:29] <imbecile> quasicolon, thanks
[06:30] <MSTK> So apparently I lost my Windows XP install CD while moving to a new house.  Am I screwed for setting up any sort of virtual machine now?
[06:30] <zcat[1] >   o/~ o/~  I killed my install, just to watch it die...
[06:30] <konam> someone could tell me the resolution of the usplash in dapper?
[06:30] <konam> someone could tell me the resolution of the usplash in dapper?
[06:30] <zcat[1] > just reinstalled XP and edgy onto the SATA drive.. took half as long as and previous install!
[06:30] <zcat[1] > *any
[06:31] <Asc> MSTK: what version of XP was it?
[06:31] <castoff> MSTK: is xp still installed and are you thinking vmware?
[06:31] <zcat[1] > Prof VLK :)
[06:31] <MSTK> castoff - yeah, but it's installed on the actual hardware, as a dual-boot
[06:31] <MSTK> Asc - not sure...but would it matter?  I could always patch it up
[06:32] <PacketScan> Just did an inplace upgrade from dapper to edgy..  Having an issue with evoltion .. When connected to imap with ssl evolution fails to retrieve the folder list.
[06:32] <Asc> MSTK: Dunno, I don't use XP.  I've got a spare home edition key though, if you want it.
[06:32] <Amadeo> What are the best PC-to-PC VoIP clients for Linux?
[06:32] <MSTK> Asc - Yeah, but that won't help if I don't have the CD, right?
[06:32] <castoff> MSTK: utilize BARTPE to ghost it then ghost it down into vmware
[06:32] <zcat[1] > now that I know a fresh install works, I'm going to go reinstall the good indeall (with drivers and stuff) from image :)
[06:33] <n2diy> Asc: danger, passing out closed source keys here isn't a good idea.
[06:33] <h3xis> Amadeo, if im not mistaked, there's a Skype client for linux
[06:33] <h3xis> mistaken*
[06:33] <Asc> MSTK: Good point.  Could probably borrow a CD from someone though.
[06:33] <aNi`> MSTK if u owned a copy of windows before there is the OEM version of windows xp on demonoid.com u can dl it and burn it it will be all legit and wga authenticated
[06:33] <Pie-rate> with the unit "dBm", higher is more power right?
[06:33] <Amadeo> h3xis: Yeah, I tried it out...works ok, sound quality is awful in Linux for me for some reason
[06:33] <h3xis> Amadeo, okay, what about SFLphone?
[06:34] <Asc> n2diy: Yeah, probably not.  Still, it's not as though I'm even going to use it.  I don't know about the terms of the licence agreement, but I'd consider giving it away morally sound.
[06:34] <Amadeo> not sure, let me look it up
[06:34] <zcat[1] > +3dB == twice as much power
[06:34] <imbecile> ok guys i know there is something i need to type in terminal to load universe what is it?
[06:34] <riotkittie> oooh. i meant to do something productive tonight
[06:34] <MSTK> aNi` - thanks, I'll try to look that up.
[06:34] <n2diy> Pie-rate: yes.
[06:34] <aNi`> MSTK hold on
[06:34] <Amadeo> h3xis: Have you tried this one?
[06:34] <ppj> How "experimental" ix Edgy x64 under VMWare?
[06:34] <ppj> is
[06:35] <n2diy> Asc: but is it something we want to expose this community to?
[06:35] <h3xis> Amadeo, nope. its site has screenshots and other stuff if youre interested
[06:35] <Amadeo> ok, thanks :)
[06:35] <imbecile> ok guys i know there is something i need to type in terminal to load universe what is it?
[06:35] <Chest> how do i stop a running X server?
[06:35] <imbecile> its something i need
[06:35] <h3xis> imbecile, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file and add universe
[06:36] <n2diy> Pie-rate: and your problems may not be output power, it could be on the receive side of things?
[06:36] <aNi`> MSTK http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/331860/1141263/
[06:36] <imbecile> h3xis,  its something people have told me before i need first
[06:36] <Asc> n2diy: I'd /msg the key itself.  Or if you're worried about the act of piracy, I've only ever met one person in my generation who had any compunctions whatsoever about it.
[06:36] <MSTK> aNi` - thanks.  any comments onto the legality of this method?
[06:36] <aNi`> MSTK http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/320911/1141263/
[06:36] <h3xis> imbecile, what?
[06:36] <aNi`> first one is home second one is pro
[06:36] <aNi`> i think its legit if u had a copy before
[06:37] <User181> hey, does anyone know how to install ubuntu edgy in expert mode?
[06:37] <Chest> how do i stop a running X server?
[06:37] <bulmer> ctrl+backspace
[06:37] <MSTK> great...now normally to use a virtual drive I'd use daemon or alcohol on windows.  But I'm not sure how to do it on a Linux
[06:37] <imbecile> h3xis,  I'm not sure, its something i need to enable via command line though
[06:37] <h3xis> Chest, chase it
[06:37] <n2diy> Asc: I don't want the key, I'm just asking you to consider what the ramifications might be to distributing that on a linux forum.
[06:38] <Chest> bulmer: i think you mean ctrl-alt-backspace, that will restart it
[06:38] <h3xis> imbecile, i dont get it..you just use a text editor to edit sources.list. nothing special to do before hand
[06:38] <Amadeo> Which generally has better audio support/compatibility? Gnome or KDE?
[06:38] <bulmer> Chest yes.ctrl+alt+backspace will kill it
[06:38] <Chest> no it will restart it
[06:38] <Chest> i want to stop it
[06:38] <PORDO> how do i get programs to use dmix?
[06:38] <nvez> grr, im having trouble with the install here
[06:38] <bulmer> try it and see
[06:38] <h3xis> Amadeo, that's irrelevant. theyre just environments
[06:39] <riotkittie> nevez  > how so?
[06:39] <nvez> after i have installed, all that appears in vertical colored scanlines on my monitor.
[06:39] <castoff> Chest: init 3
[06:39] <PORDO> i have this line, pcm.digi { type dmix   ipc_key 5678293   slave { pcm "hw:0,4"  channels 6  rate 48000 } }
[06:39] <Chest> i have, IT RESTARTS IT
[06:39] <Chest> init 3 returns nothing
[06:39] <nvez> after it loads with the ubuntu status bar when booting
[06:39] <Chest> just sits there
[06:39] <aNi`> MSTK, sudo mount file.iso /media/iso/ -t iso9660 -o loop
[06:39] <M3L7Down> Hey Guys, where is xorg.conf?
[06:39] <Chest> newly installed ubuntu
[06:39] <h3xis> M3L7Down, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:39] <h3xis> Chest, why do you need to stop it?
[06:39] <castoff> Chest: telinit 3
[06:39] <M3L7Down> h3xis, thanks
[06:39] <Chest> to install nvidia drivers
[06:39] <h3xis> i see
[06:39] <Asc> n2diy: Wasn't implying you did.  Dunno about ramifications - it's not as though microsoft's spies are everywhere, and if they are they can't really go after either Ubuntu/Cannonical or whoever runs the servers.
[06:39] <riotkittie> chest > "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" ?
[06:40] <nvez> anyone have a clue why i have scanlines all over my screen and i cant see crap after installing ubuntu
[06:40] <Amadeo> h3xis: I ask because of this on help.ubuntu.com - "#
[06:40] <Amadeo> On some systems, the Skype application can only be used for one call each time it is run due to an issue with GNOME's Enlightened Sound Daemon (ESD)."
[06:40] <Chest> riotkittie: thanks, that did it.  But why doesn't init 3 work?
[06:40] <n2diy> Asc: your probably right, but they could generate bad PR, and we don't need that.
[06:40] <h3xis> Amadeo, i guess you could try it out on gnome first. it does say "some" so you might be excluded from that
[06:41] <nvez> can anyone pleeease help? :(
[06:41] <riotkittie> Chest, > i am not sure.
[06:41] <MSTK> aNi` - which of those do I replace with the filename/pasth of the image I'm trying to mouht?
[06:41] <niksoft> hey everyone
[06:41] <MSTK> hey
[06:41] <aNi`> file.iso u have to cd into the file iso directory and mount
[06:41] <aNi`> or just provide the full path
[06:42] <Amadeo> I'll mess with em a bit, thanks again :)
[06:42] <Asc> n2diy: Hm, okay.  Can't really see it making headlines, but that's a good point.
[06:42] <nvez> so no one has a clue?
[06:42] <niksoft> so i got a little problem with the live cd here...
[06:42] <jenna> hey sorry to be a pain but does anyone know how to enter expert mode to install ubunutu edgy 6.10?
[06:42] <imbecile> how do i open sources.list as read/write in terminal?
[06:42] <Chest> nvez: laptop?
[06:42] <niksoft> no
[06:42] <n2diy> Asc: ;)
[06:42] <h3xis> imbecile, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:42] <nvez> Chest: nope, normal screen
[06:43] <Asc> imbicile: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:43] <nvez> 6600gt screen, this happened in install too but i fixed by forcing VGA to 1024x768x32
[06:43] <jga2003> can any one help me
[06:43] <aNi`> MSTK u running widnows on vmware?
[06:43] <nvez> but now i dont know how to fix it permenantly
[06:43] <Chest> nvez: post your xorg.log to pastebin
[06:43] <riotkittie> nvez,   try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:43] <h3xis> jga2003, ask your question and maybe someone will
[06:43] <jga2003> I installed sql-ledger
[06:43] <nvez> riotkittie: i cant see crap :P
[06:43] <jga2003> but how it work
[06:43] <riotkittie> oh. oh yeah.
[06:43] <nvez> how can i switch to terminal or login to ubuntus terminal
[06:44] <MSTK> Demonoid won't let me download w/out registering.
[06:44] <nvez> without initalizing xorg or w/e
[06:44] <Asc> Can VMware run an existing windows install?
[06:44] <jenna> any idea why live-expert  wont work?
[06:44] <riotkittie> apparently, neither can i cause i wouldnt have suggested that if i could read ;p
[06:44] <castoff> jga2003: /usr/share/docs/sql-ledger maybe?
[06:44] <n2diy> nvez: sudo init 1 from a terminal, now.
[06:45] <nvez> n2diy: i cant see anything on the monitor
[06:45] <MSTK> aNi` - Demonoid is restricting downloads to registered users, and unfortunately open registrations are closed
[06:45] <Chest> nvez: ctrl-alt-F1
[06:45] <riotkittie> alt+ctrl+f1
[06:45] <nvez> k
[06:45] <aNi`> damn it
[06:45] <castoff> Asc: you can ghost it and then ghost it into vmware
[06:45] <aNi`> MSTK, try piratebay and isohunt then
[06:46] <n2diy> nvez: can you get to terminal with ctrl+alt+F1
[06:46] <nvez> n2diy: i restarted, so its loading again :P
[06:46] <jga2003> any one know Sql-Ledger
[06:46] <nvez> however, in the install, same thing happened, i pressed F6 for VGA or w/e and chose 1024x768x32 and it was fixed
[06:46] <imbecile> MSTK,  i believe its open registration on fridays
[06:46] <L0cKd0wN> hey guys, just installed ubuntu for the first time, the screen resolution is awful, how do i install nvidia drivers?
[06:46] <Asc> castoff, okay, thanks
[06:46] <n2diy> nvez: at the boot prompt halt it with escape.
[06:46] <nvez> n2diy
[06:46] <nvez> i cant
[06:47] <MSTK> imbecile - well, that's another week away =/  I'll try something else
[06:47] <nvez> i cant @ ctrl+alt+f1 part
[06:47] <marc__> Could someone tell me if installing ubuntu via the ubuntu xmas edition is alright?  Meaning is it a well put together version etc...
[06:47] <nvez> hold on, let me reboot and esc
[06:47] <h3xis> what the hell is ubuntu xmas edition
[06:47] <Chest> L0cKd0wN: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:47] <n2diy> nvez: wait!!!
[06:47] <LameBMX> h3xis, did tirus ever return
[06:48] <aNi`> MSTK http://www.isohunt.com/torrents/?ihq=windows+xp+pro+oem
[06:48] <nvez> uhh, n2diy, im at the grub boot menu now
[06:48] <professor> hey guys Im going crazy trying to set up my laptop with ubuntu
[06:48] <nvez> :x
[06:48] <carpenterThe> Hi, Is there a UI Package for setting scheduled tasks a.k.a. cron?
[06:48] <h3xis> LameBMX, not today. he said he was going to look on ebay for a ~10GB drive or so. he found out that he's got problems with his drive, as i assumed
[06:48] <Chest> professor: join the club
[06:48] <riotkittie> what kind of problems are you having, professor, and what kind of laptop?
[06:48] <marc__> ubuntu xmas edition can be found here...   ubuntusoftware.info
[06:48] <LameBMX> an nice
[06:48] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> Guys, I am tring to do sudo apt-get install linux-source and its telling me the package does not exist.... Any help?
[06:48] <craig-griffis_> !fsck.ntfs
[06:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fsck.ntfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <n2diy> ok, try intit 1, if that works, and you want to proceed, use init 5.
[06:48] <professor> I need to write a text into a file, but it says I dont have permission, how do I get permission
[06:48] <L0cKd0wN> Chest, thanks, i don't have TV-out though, the nvidia card is onboard the mobo
[06:49] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> professor use sudo
[06:49] <L0cKd0wN> Chest, shall i proceed with the instructions regardless?
[06:49] <nvez> n2diy: where?  im in the grub menu, because ctrl+alt+f1 doesnt work at all.
[06:49] <professor> riotkittie, it is a compaq presario c304nr
[06:49] <nvez> it just stays stuck at that corrupted-looking view
[06:49] <castoff> professor: sudo command
[06:49] <LameBMX> professor, is it a ntfs drive
[06:49] <n2diy> ok, recovery?
[06:49] <nvez> alright, hold on
[06:49] <riotkittie> ohhh compaq presario  <makes a scrunchy face>
[06:49] <professor> no
[06:49] <Chest> L0cKd0wN: yes, it should work for ant card.
[06:49] <Chest> *any
[06:49] <h3xis> marc__, why dont you just install the standard version?
[06:49] <n2diy> nvez: ok, recovery?
[06:50] <marc__> h3xis, quick and dirty, no need to screw around installing all the plugins etc
[06:50] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> Anyone here have ANY _PCI_ (not pci-e) spare vid card that I can take off thier hands?!
[06:50] <nvez> its in, n2diy
[06:50] <nvez> im in terminal/console
[06:50] <marc__> no one ever try the xmas edition?
[06:50] <professor> anyways how do I cange a writen file if it will not let me, I dont know how to get tot he file in terminal
[06:51] <niksoft> i'm continuously booting to a blank screen with the 6.10 live cd here, right after the framebuffer splash dissapears i get a blank screen... i tried using noapic nolapic, setting screen size to 1024x768 32 and using safe graphics mode... running an optiplex110 machine, and it ran before, the only thing i changed was i threw in an nvidia geforce fx5200 card in and now i get the blank after the splash...
[06:51] <n2diy> nvez: ok, do what you planned to do, and then type init 5
[06:51] <professor> or how to open it
[06:51] <L0cKd0wN> chest: ok great
[06:51] <nvez> n2diy: what exactly am i planned to do, i have no clue really. :p
[06:51] <nvez> some people suggested dpkg reconfigure something
[06:51] <Chest> L0cKd0wN: what card do you have?
[06:51] <nvez> let me try it..
[06:51] <nvez> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:51] <nvez> ill try that
[06:51] <Chest> L0cKd0wN: you may need to install the legacy drivers instead of the straight nvidia ones.
[06:52] <jga2003> I installed WINE, but didnt get any link in application menu, or i cant find any name like wine in run programmeI
[06:52] <n2diy> nvez: :) I don't know! :) You wanted to get to a prompt without X, here you are.
[06:52] <riotkittie> professor >> sudo nano <file>
[06:52] <riotkittie> or gksudo gedit <file>
[06:52] <Chest> jga2003: wine is command line
[06:52] <nvez> well thanks i guess n2diy, atleast now i can work with something
[06:52] <nvez> :D
[06:52] <LameBMX> niksoft, boot to recovery ... and edit your xorg.conf file
[06:53] <professor> riotkittie, ok what does that do
[06:53] <n2diy> nvez: 10-4, sorry I wasn't following the thread.
[06:53] <nvez> its okay, thanks, couldnt know what to do after that anyways
[06:53] <nvez> :P
[06:53] <LameBMX> hopfully someone here knows an easy tool to just reconfigure xorg.cong
[06:53] <riotkittie> professor, it will open the file as root, giving you permission to edit it
[06:53] <nvez> now lets try..
[06:53] <professor> ok
[06:53] <M3L7Down> hey, so I know where xorg is located now, but when ever I try to edit from root terminal, it tells me it doesn't know what kind of file it so
[06:53] <professor> let me try
[06:54] <riotkittie> LameBMX,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org
[06:54] <aNi`> xorg.conf is onpen with vi or nano
[06:54] <riotkittie> doesnt get much easier than that ;p
[06:54] <professor> riotkittie,  how do I save it now
[06:54] <LameBMX> professor, <riotkittie> LameBMX,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org
[06:54] <jga2003> then how i install a programm using wine
[06:54] <riotkittie> professor, what prgorgam did you open it with ?
[06:54] <jrib> M3L7Down: what command are you using?
[06:54] <crazy_bus> Does anyone know of a open-source helicopter simulator like this one? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunship_%28game%29
[06:54] <riotkittie> program?
[06:54] <jga2003> Tally
[06:55] <professor> riotkittie,  the one you told me to
[06:55] <professor> nano
[06:55] <LameBMX> nano
[06:55] <jga2003> an accounting software
[06:55] <professor> LameBMX, what will taht do
[06:55] <LameBMX> gedit dont work without X .. and his X is crashing
[06:55] <riotkittie> CTRL+X  ... before it exits, it will ask if you want to save changes
[06:55] <riotkittie> hit y
[06:55] <konam> how much take an  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)" comand
[06:55] <edgy> Hi, I installed k3d and it's now giving some erros every time I run apt-get. I tried to remove it with sudo dpkg --remove k3d but it's giving errors like "subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" how am I supposed to remove such packages in ubuntu?
[06:56] <LameBMX> it should reconfigure your xorg.conf file for your system
[06:56] <n2diy> konam: k3b?
[06:56] <jga2003> I want to install a windows gui programme on ubuntu, what will I do
[06:56] <mvfeinstein> I am getting some warnings from X windows about missing fonts, does anyone know if there is a base font package I can install to fix that?
[06:56] <riotkittie> jga2003, > install WINE
[06:56] <Pie-rate> Ok, so far for my wireless problem, i've tried iwconfig ath0 txpower 16 (as high as it would go without giving an invalid parameter error), i've played with the sens value (it just makes the access point disappear from the list). Nothing works. It still can't connect at low signal strength, when the windows drivers have no problem.
[06:57] <n2diy> edgy: k3b?
[06:57] <craig-griffis_> !ntfs-3g
[06:57] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[06:57] <burepe_> where is the apache hosts file?
[06:57] <edgy> n2diy: no k3d
[06:57] <LameBMX> professor, nvm .. that for for niksoft
[06:57] <LameBMX> ooops got nicks mixed up
[06:57] <n2diy> edgy: what is that do?
[06:57] <professor> LameBMX, what what does that do
[06:57] <jga2003> riotkittie: I installed wine, and how it work
[06:57] <Pie-rate> is there a graphical tool better than network manager for changing wireless settings?
[06:58] <n2diy> is/does
[06:58] <edgy> n2diy: for generating animation
[06:58] <M3L7Down> I used to be able to edit xorg.conf with the wordpad
[06:58] <riotkittie> jga2003, honestly, i am not totally sure. i've used CrossOver Office but not wine
[06:58] <M3L7Down> why can't I do that anymore?
[06:58] <LameBMX> professor, it reconfigures your xorg.conf file ... but i mistakenly put your nick in when that was info for niksoft ...
[06:58] <n2diy> edgy: ok, I thought you were trying to burn CDs with k3b, sorry.
[06:59] <nvez> i hope its because horizontal/vertial refresh was mis-set, restarting, fingers crossed.
[06:59] <nvez> :x
[06:59] <riotkittie> i suppose their is  a WINE submenu under your Application menu
[06:59] <professor> oh ok
[06:59] <LameBMX> who left a moment before i started tellin hime what to do lol
[06:59] <imbecile> why isnt everything in the advanced synapticwindow  in the basic window like kismet and several games?
[06:59] <jga2003> can i install crossover in ubuntu,
[06:59] <riotkittie> and an item in there that will guide you through installation
[06:59] <nvez> F^$%#%^*&$%&&%&$&@^#$^
[06:59] <nvez> not fixed
[06:59] <nvez> son of a :(
[06:59] <Netham45> o EW{Dzbw3Q7O/ Go?9 slP?Q|hle=)N.p 4'-
[07:00] <M3L7Down> jibs?
[07:00] <ComunisTico> hi can anyone explaine why does this appear when i try to open the repositories?
[07:00] <LameBMX> imbecile, i think its because the basic one integrated those applications into the menus and such ...
[07:00] <ComunisTico> root@roberto:/home/roberto# sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:00] <ComunisTico> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[07:00] <ComunisTico> Xlib: No protocol specified
[07:00] <M3L7Down> I just noticed that you tried to ask me a question
[07:00] <Netham45> Did anyone beep when I pasted o EW{Dzbw3Q7O/ Go?9 slP?Q|hle=)N.p 4'-
[07:00] <h3xis> Netham45, wtf?
[07:00] <imbecile> LameBMX,  ahhh thats the answer ive needed for days... so the advanced ones dont install to a menu?
[07:00] <h3xis> Netham45, no
[07:01] <M3L7Down> I was trying to log in as root through the terminal, then use edit xorg.conf
[07:01] <M3L7Down> it tells me it doesn't know what to do with it
[07:01] <edgy> n2diy: but whatever the package is I should be able to remove it, no?
[07:01] <Beawolfe> can anyone help me with compiz?
[07:01] <imbecile> Netham45,  no but it is still annoying you were right
[07:01] <LameBMX> imbecile, in short words .. synaptic lists virtually every package (if not all) ... and add remove programs integrates them into your enviroment
[07:01] <n2diy> edgy: yes, maybe you need to use sudo though?
[07:02] <Zambezi> Which kernel is it in Edgy server?
[07:02] <VIMmer> hi, i want to rwite a script that changes the a particular word in a file
[07:02] <n2diy> ! edgy kernel
[07:02] <IntuitiveNipple> 2.6.17
[07:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edgy kernel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:02] <VIMmer> can anyone plase guide me thru it?
[07:03] <Zambezi> IntuitiveNipple, Thanks. Now I'm sure dist-upgrade worked. ;-)
[07:03] <IntuitiveNipple> :)
[07:03] <nvez> alright.  tried something else, hope it works this time.
[07:03] <imbecile> LameBMX,  so i would have to add the programs i wanted to add in advanced manually  to the panel?
[07:04] <LameBMX> yea .. i mean i may be wrong and things change
[07:04] <n2diy> VIMmer:  PERL is good at that, I don't think you'll find a lot of help here for that?
[07:04] <LameBMX> but that was my observations
[07:04] <VIMmer> k
[07:04] <L0cKd0wN> Chest, ok I installed the drivers as per the instructions on the site you gave me, but I still don't see the resolution I need, (1440 x 900) i have a 19" Widescreen LCD
[07:04] <VIMmer> thx n2diy
[07:04] <noobtolinux> what up
[07:04] <ComunisTico> root@roberto:/home/roberto# sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:04] <ComunisTico> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[07:04] <ComunisTico> Xlib: No protocol specified
[07:04] <ComunisTico> cannot open display:
[07:04] <n2diy> VIMmer: nada
[07:04] <noobtolinux> about to install ubuntu 6.10 with windows
[07:04] <noobtolinux> hopefully it won't mess up my hd like suse did
[07:04] <nvez> son of a.  great,DOESNT WORK AGAIN
[07:05] <ComunisTico> can anyone explain why that happens when  try to open the sources
[07:05] <n2diy> noobtolinux: install winders first!
[07:05] <noobtolinux> winders?
[07:05] <castoff> ComunisTico: gedit is a gui interface...root can't open the display
[07:05] <L0cKd0wN> lol LameBMX
[07:05] <n2diy> noobtolinux: win
[07:06] <noobtolinux> what about it?
[07:06] <ComunisTico> 4<castoff> Then how can i open them?
[07:06] <n2diy> noobtolinux: install winders first!
[07:06] <aNi`> edgy did u find out how to uninstall k3d?
[07:06] <homer> winders over rides your MBR and earses GRUB
[07:06] <castoff> ComunisTico: use nano, vi, etc.
[07:06] <LameBMX> i wonder if imma hit the same problem when i get a widescreen monitor ... been thinkin about a 22" when i get paid (belated christmas gift to myself)
[07:06] <noobtolinux> i have windows on
[07:06] <noobtolinux> i'm on it
[07:06] <noobtolinux> lol
[07:06] <L0cKd0wN> anyone know how to tell ubuntu i have a 19" monitor that needs 1440 x 900
[07:06] <L0cKd0wN> ?
[07:06] <Administrator> 
[07:06] <riotkittie> brb. burning edgy.  i think. ehh. hm.
[07:06] <ComunisTico> 4<castoff> whats nano?
[07:06] <aNi`> Administrator:  nee how mah
[07:07] <Administrator> yes
[07:07] <aNi`> Administrator:  hehe
[07:07] <LameBMX> cept xorg.cong .. no L0cKd0wN
[07:07] <n2diy> noobtolinux: ok, you are good to go, winders eats up linux, if linux is installed before winders.
[07:07] <castoff> ComunisTico: terminal-based text editor
[07:07] <noobtolinux> k
[07:07] <L0cKd0wN> LameBMX, where's xorg.conf ?
[07:07] <L0cKd0wN> etc ?
[07:07] <aNi`> Administrator:  ur chinese rite?
[07:07] <riotkittie> wahhhh. i wish slackware had a live disc ;/
[07:07] <ComunisTico> 4<castoff> and from there i can change my sources?
[07:08] <LameBMX> L0cKd0wN,  /ect/X11/xorg.conf
[07:08] <Administrator> yes i from china.near ChangJiang river
[07:08] <computer13137> Hey
[07:08] <socorrista_ach> can someone tell how to enter in text mode in ubuntu??
[07:08] <computer13137> Question.
[07:08] <noobtolinux> with ubuntu do you have to keep burnin cds everytime a new version is released
[07:08] <socorrista_ach> i need to install a driver
[07:08] <noobtolinux> or does it update
[07:08] <castoff> ComunisTico: yes replace gedit with nano in the command
[07:08] <n2diy> riotkittie: why?
[07:08] <LameBMX> well /e<tab>X<tab>xo<tab> lol
[07:08] <computer13137> How do I ask Ubuntu what version it is?  Like WInver for Ubuntu?  I want to make sure the upgrade took effect.
[07:08] <aNi`> Administrator: omg great do u know how to get pplive working for linuX???
[07:08] <riotkittie> noobtolinux, : you can upgrade through apt
[07:08] <ComunisTico> 4<castoff>  what stranged me was that before i could change em opening them from gedit with no prob
[07:08] <socorrista_ach> can someone tell how to enter in text mode in ubuntu??
[07:08] <noobtolinux> so I won't have to install ubuntu over and over?
[07:08] <break_> alright
[07:08] <riotkittie> i personally prefer fresh installs when upgrading tho
[07:08] <LameBMX> computer13137, uname -r
[07:08] <noobtolinux> with new versions
[07:08] <noobtolinux> ?
[07:09] <break_> how do i install a .tgz file
[07:09] <Administrator> ok with wine?Tvants can run on linux by wine
[07:09] <computer13137> LameBMX: That's the kernel version.
[07:09] <h3xis> break_, you cant. you need to extract and then install the contents inside of it
[07:09] <IntuitiveNipple> L0cKd0wN: Take a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=310172
[07:09] <socorrista_ach> please somenone help me
[07:09] <break_> yes
[07:09] <break_> thats what i meant
[07:09] <computer13137> LameBMX: I'm looking for like "breezy, dapper, edgy"...
[07:09] <M3L7Down> okay, all I want to do is edit xorg.conf with GOSH DARN NOTEPAD
[07:09] <h3xis> break_, tar xzf *.tgz i think
[07:09] <M3L7Down> Linux HATES ME
[07:09] <aNi`> ok i will try but i read it dooesn't work
[07:09] <riotkittie> n2diy >> because i want to install something!  but not deprive myself of the wholesome goodness that is laying in bed and wasting time on the internet while doing it
[07:09] <n2diy> riotkittie: why?socrrista_ach: open a terminal.
[07:09] <MerlynCoslett> Why is it that when I use any Ubuntu Install Disk after the "Windows" Like load screen, I get a tan screen, with a distorted menu that says ubuntu and the computer sits for ever on this screen
[07:09] <aNi`> Administrator: is TVants better?
[07:09] <socorrista_ach> i have to have kernel access
[07:09] <LameBMX> computer13137, sorry thought thats what your lookin for ...
[07:10] <Peebo> When I type mount I get this : /dev/hdb1 on /media/hdb1 type ntfs (rw)     but if I try to do something I'm told it's a read only file system. HELP !
[07:10] <computer13137> I just upgraded to Edgy Eft, and I want to make sure it worked and such.
[07:10] <socorrista_ach> its an nvidia driver
[07:10] <Administrator> yes
[07:10] <n2diy> riotkittie: sometimes kitties have to get out of bed too
[07:10] <Administrator> TVants is better than pplive
[07:10] <computer13137> Someone gave me the line before... but I don't remember.
[07:10] <aNi`> Administrator: ok i will check it out thx but im in California don't no if i get good stream
[07:10] <noobtolinux> so someone tell me do I have have to install ubuntu over and over or will it update to newer versions? or do I have to compile updates?
[07:10] <IntuitiveNipple> Peebo: You need to install ntfs-3g to have writea-access to NTFS
[07:10] <bulmer> MerlynCoslett: use a lower resolution perhaps like 800x600
[07:10] <earthen> M3L7Down, type in command line sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:10] <M3L7Down> okay
[07:10] <riotkittie> well im not in bed yet ;p
[07:10] <nvez> im really frustrated.  i cant get ubuntu to tsart properly, i just get a random garbled colored lines.
[07:10] <Administrator> you can google about that
[07:10] <nvez> anyone has a clue? :
[07:10] <Peebo> IntuitiveNipple,  Just did that do I have to reboot for it to take hold
[07:10] <MerlynCoslett> I have a AMD X2 3800+ Does it matter which CD I chose (AMD64 vs Stanard Install CD)
[07:11] <nvez> im sure its in xorg.conf, i just dont know what it is.
[07:11] <IntuitiveNipple> Peebo: no
[07:11] <M3L7Down> yup, doesn't work
[07:11] <noobtolinux> nipple never did tell anyone if they are a she
[07:11] <noobtolinux> lol
[07:11] <n2diy> riotkittie: yea, but your all curled up and warm, time for a stretch.
[07:11] <M3L7Down> tells me display (null)
[07:11] <noobtolinux> MerlynCoslett YOU NEED the amd
[07:11] <computer13137> noobtolinux, PM me.
[07:11] <computer13137> I can tell you all about updating Ubuntu.
[07:11] <Peebo> IntuitiveNipple, Is there a new mount command for ntfs-3g
[07:11] <noobtolinux> ok?
[07:11] <marijan> hello ppl, hello i running linux ubuntu and i don't know how to install flash_player 9 for linux how can somebody tell me ?
[07:11] <IntuitiveNipple> Peebo: use ntfs-3g /dev/hdb1 /mnt/windows
[07:12] <earthen> M3L7Down, i guess you only have command line then right?
[07:12] <n2diy> ! flash
[07:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:12] <L0cKd0wN> IntuitiveNipple, ok will do
[07:12] <IntuitiveNipple> Peebo: try reading the man pages: man ntfs-3g
[07:12] <riotkittie> nvez >> try posting at ubuntuforums.org or searching posts there. there is an overwhelming amount of info available and something may apply to you. i'm sorry i cant help
[07:12] <Administrator> :)
[07:12] <aNi`> : )
[07:12] <earthen> M3L7Down, if thats the case change gedit to nano
[07:12] <edgy> aNi`: yes
[07:12] <M3L7Down> so, sudo gedit doesn't work, now what
[07:12] <marijan> ppl can somebody help me !?
[07:12] <computer13137> Noobtolinux: Open /etc/apt/sources.list and change all the "names" to the next version up.  Like if you're upgrading from Breezy, change it to dapper.  Then upgrade from dapper by changing it to edgy.
[07:12] <marijan> please
[07:12] <marijan> hello ppl, hello i running linux ubuntu and i don't know how to install flash_player 9 for linux how can somebody tell me ?
[07:12] <MerlynCoslett> I have tried using the stanard CD, the AMD CD, and Knoppix (attempting install that way) it always seems my computer halts after the inital load screen. Ubuntu says it supports my graphics card (7800GT), a riend recommended a different CD / DVD Drive, tried 3, all give me the same problems
[07:12] <computer13137> Then run "apt-get update'
[07:13] <riotkittie> M3L7Down,  gksudo gedit?  or sudo nano
[07:13] <computer13137> And "apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade"
[07:13] <n2diy> ! flash | maryjan
[07:13] <ubotu> maryjan: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:13] <aNi`> edgy how did u do it cuz i had the same error before?
[07:13] <M3L7Down> riotkitties: will this open it in notepad?
[07:13] <computer13137> !upgrading
[07:13] <Peebo> IntuitiveNipple, Looks like in need to run ntfsfix
[07:13] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:13] <computer13137> !upgrading noobtolinux
[07:13] <marijan> ppl i ask something 20 times
[07:13] <marijan> hello ppl, hello i running linux ubuntu and i don't know how to install flash_player 9 for linux how can somebody tell me ?
[07:13] <marijan> hello ppl, hello i running linux ubuntu and i don't know how to install flash_player 9 for linux how can somebody tell me ?
[07:13] <noobtolinux> ?
[07:13] <Administrator> receive Tvants
[07:13] <marijan> hello ppl, hello i running linux ubuntu and i don't know how to install flash_player 9 for linux how can somebody tell me ?
[07:13] <computer13137> Noobtolinux:
[07:13] <computer13137> !upgrading
[07:13] <earthen> M3L7Down, notepad is a windows program
[07:13] <noobtolinux> whats that do
[07:14] <IntuitiveNipple> Peebo: I've not had much sucesss from ntfsfix - had to use a Windows boot to chkdsk it
[07:14] <n2diy> ! flash | maryjan
[07:14] <ubotu> maryjan: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:14] <computer13137> Noobtolinux: never mind.. it was supposed to make Ubotu talk. :P
[07:14] <LameBMX> notepad is like saran wrap ...
[07:14] <edgy> aNi`: sudo mv /usr/bin/pycentral .; sudo apt-get remove k3d; sudo mv pycentral /usr/bin
[07:14] <marijan> hello ppl, hello i running linux ubuntu and i don't know how to install flash_player 9 for linux how can somebody tell me ?
[07:14] <riotkittie> M3L7Down >> i *believe* gksudo gedit will open it in the notepad-like application tho
[07:14] <computer13137> Noobtolinux:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:14] <marijan> noobtolinux: i download it
[07:14] <noobtolinux> i'm not on ubuntu yet
[07:14] <noobtolinux> ..
[07:14] <castoff> marijan: read the damn screen
[07:14] <M3L7Down> it tells me
[07:14] <M3L7Down> ...
[07:14] <marijan> noobtolinux: but i dont know how to install :(
[07:14] <riotkittie> but the CLI is your friend. learn it. love it. use it.
[07:14] <noobtolinux> i'm about to put it on
[07:14] <M3L7Down> cannot open display
[07:14] <riotkittie> <pets her command line>
[07:14] <noobtolinux> install what?
[07:14] <M3L7Down> and edit xorg.conf doesn
[07:14] <noobtolinux> ubuntu?
[07:14] <noobtolinux> its easy
[07:14] <M3L7Down> work either
[07:15] <h3xis> marijan, a lot of people here will say to install it using the package but i say to be a real man and install it using the plugin provided by adobe
[07:15] <noobtolinux> you set up in your bios to have it boot from the cd first
[07:15] <aNi`> edgy thx a bunch
[07:15] <MerlynCoslett> I have tried using the stanard CD, the AMD CD, and Knoppix (attempting install that way) it always seems my computer halts after the inital load screen. Ubuntu says it supports my graphics card (7800GT), a riend recommended a different CD / DVD Drive, tried 3, all give me the same problems
[07:15] <riotkittie> M3L7Down >>> sudo nano <file>
[07:15] <LameBMX> lol
[07:15] <imbecile> where do i find the icons for stuff im adding to menu?
[07:15] <earthen> riotkittie, I'm not sure but i think he is stuck in command line only
[07:15] <Peebo> IntuitiveNipple, Yeah no luck here either, Oh well I have a windoze live CD here. I'll reboot into that and be back...
[07:15] <marijan> h3xis: so nobody telling me
[07:15] <imbecile> where do i find the icons for stuff im adding to menu? in the same folder?
[07:15] <riotkittie> will open it in a CLI based editor
[07:15] <M3L7Down> k, I already used nano, and it wouldn't recognize commands to save
[07:15] <computer13137> bbl
[07:15] <h3xis> marijan, download the tgz from adobe and read the instructions
[07:15] <edgy> aNi`: you are welcome!
[07:15] <marijan> h3xis: i download it but i dont know too much english
[07:15] <riotkittie> windoze live cd???  ooh oooh tell me more.
[07:15] <h3xis> marijan, i see. well where are you at in the process?
[07:15] <Peebo> IntuitiveNipple, Thanx any how mate
[07:16] <earthen> M3L7Down, ctrl + X is what you use to save with nano then answer yes to the 2 questions that it asks you
[07:16] <M3L7Down> kk
[07:16] <n2diy> maryjan, what is your native language?
[07:16] <IntuitiveNipple> riotkittie: Yes, using BartPE most often
[07:16] <M3L7Down> thanks
[07:16] <LameBMX> yea windows PE have been around forever now
[07:16] <earthen> M3L7Down, it tells you on the bottom of the screen
[07:16] <IntuitiveNipple> don't get Windows PE confused with BartPE though
[07:16] <jerry> hello
[07:17] <riotkittie> am i always the last to mow about anything ?
[07:17] <IntuitiveNipple> BartPE is much more sophisticated
[07:17] <riotkittie> brb. i have a hot date with google.
[07:17] <IntuitiveNipple> riotkittie: If you don't Google, you'll never find out
[07:17] <Peebo> riotkittie, Look for a tool called BartPE, you use that and a windows CD to create a BArtPE boot CD better known as Windoze live
[07:17] <n2diy> riotkittie: well what do you expect, kitties sleep 18 hours a day
[07:17] <IntuitiveNipple> Windows-bloody- dead, more like
[07:17] <MerlynCoslett> Anyone ever had Ubuntu install (graphically) glitch and not allow for install (no matter the resolution). I am using a x2 Processor, Nvidia 7800GT, 21 Inch WS Monitor (Only components I would think might cause the problem)
[07:18] <Peebo> Ok I'm off to chkdsk my ffffffffnnnnn NTFS partition
[07:18] <nvez> im really frustrated.  i cant get ubuntu to tsart properly, i just get a random garbled colored lines along the screen, anyone ever had this happen?
[07:18] <h3xis> nvez, what video driver are you using
[07:18] <MerlynCoslett> nvez: happening to me right now
[07:18] <nvez> ive looked on the forums
[07:18] <nvez> nothing
[07:18] <nvez> h3xis: normal ones, didnt even get to boot
[07:19] <h3xis> nvez, what card you got
[07:19] <nvez> installation had same error except i pressed F5 or F6 and chose 1024x768x32
[07:19] <nvez> nvidia 6600gt
[07:19] <IntuitiveNipple> nvez: try starting it with the boot command options "quiet splash" removed, by pressing F6 when the boot menu appears
[07:19] <IntuitiveNipple> that might show you what its trying to do that is failing
[07:19] <nvez> IntuitiveNipple: i get to see the splash.
[07:19] <nvez> i see it load and all
[07:19] <MerlynCoslett> I have a similar problem to nvez but mine happense after the boot screen
[07:20] <MerlynCoslett> not during
[07:20] <MerlynCoslett> it is a tan screen
[07:20] <nvez> yeah, same here
[07:20] <nvez> after boot screen.
[07:20] <MerlynCoslett> with garbled
[07:20] <MerlynCoslett> letters
[07:20] <MerlynCoslett> and a fed up screen
[07:20] <MerlynCoslett> and sits for hours (yes I tested hours)
[07:20] <nvez> i dont have letters, i just have horizontal lines.
[07:20] <MerlynCoslett> depends on the CD I use
[07:20] <MerlynCoslett> and the time of day
[07:20] <nvez> im in recovery mode and clueless. :(
[07:20] <zcat[1] > nvez: problem is the splash will be covering up whatever error message it's halting at...
[07:20] <IntuitiveNipple> will the boot option "vga=771" help?
[07:20] <MerlynCoslett> I get past the Windows bootlike screen
[07:20] <MerlynCoslett> then it just sits
[07:20] <MerlynCoslett> with this weird looking rectangle box
[07:20] <MerlynCoslett> that says ubuntu
[07:21] <IntuitiveNipple> That sounds like Nautilus starting up
[07:21] <nvez> zcat[1] : ah, how do i do that?
[07:21] <n2diy> MerlynCoslett: how much RAM is in your box?
[07:21] <MerlynCoslett> IntuitiveNipple: It is a tan screen with a rectangle box
[07:21] <MerlynCoslett> 1 GB
[07:21] <MerlynCoslett> This is a gaming machine (with XP)
[07:21] <IntuitiveNipple> nvez: I just told you how to disable the splash :)
[07:21] <n2diy> MerlynCoslett: Ok, no problem there.
[07:21] <MerlynCoslett> but I want to go back to my linux ways
[07:21] <zcat[1] > nvez: take off 'quiet splash' so you can see all the startup messages...
[07:21] <nvez> IntuitiveNipple: i had the -exact- -same- -problem- when installing, but i pressed F6 (VGA) and chose 1024x768x32 - im sure something has to do, but ok, ill see
[07:21] <nvez> hold on
[07:22] <MerlynCoslett> in the process now
[07:22] <MerlynCoslett> the only error I got before was my prim HD was not happy
[07:22] <IntuitiveNipple> the more debig info you can gather, the better off you are :)
[07:22] <MerlynCoslett> but I don't plan to use it anyway
[07:22] <MerlynCoslett> dev hda sector 1414440 I/O Error
[07:22] <MerlynCoslett> Buffer I/O error on device hda, logical block 353610
[07:22] <IntuitiveNipple> sounds painful
[07:22] <n2diy> debig?
[07:22] <MerlynCoslett> then it loops that 5 - 6 times
[07:22] <IntuitiveNipple> "debug"
[07:22] <MerlynCoslett> and continues setup
[07:22] <n2diy> :)
[07:22] <IntuitiveNipple> Yes, it'll retry several times
[07:23] <MerlynCoslett> why would that matter in my case
[07:23] <MerlynCoslett> if I dont plan to use that hd
[07:23] <nvez> IntuitiveNipple: i chose the normal kernel, press "c", i have a few choices..
[07:23] <nvez> root, kernel, initrd, quiet, savedefault, boot..
[07:23] <earthen> anyone know how to make a bluetooth mouse connect auto during startup
[07:23] <IntuitiveNipple> I get that on my RAID disks when the standard IDE driver tries to talk to the Stripe arrays and gets Sector Not Found
[07:23] <nvez> or am in the wrong place?
[07:23] <MerlynCoslett> I am using the DFI LP UT NF4 SLI-DR Expert
[07:23] <MerlynCoslett> is anyone knows the board
[07:23] <mvfeinstein> Can anyone recomend a good bittorrent client?
[07:23] <MerlynCoslett> I use bittorrent
[07:23] <MerlynCoslett> personally
[07:24] <IntuitiveNipple> nvez: I usually press F6 than remove "quiet splash" from the command line, and maybe add "vga=771"
[07:24] <MerlynCoslett> command prompt is gone..
[07:24] <MerlynCoslett> now it is loading the "thinking" icon
[07:24] <MerlynCoslett> tan screen
[07:24] <MerlynCoslett> arrow key
[07:24] <MerlynCoslett> (2 computers here)
[07:24] <MerlynCoslett> and I seen a tan box...
[07:24] <MerlynCoslett> with what looks like a mountain and a sunset
[07:24] <MerlynCoslett> lines all through it like a bad video card
[07:24] <IntuitiveNipple> Is this the LiveCD?
[07:24] <MerlynCoslett> and I see ubunto in the almost top right hand corner
[07:24] <MerlynCoslett> this is the AMD64 CD
[07:24] <IntuitiveNipple> or an already installed kernel?
[07:24] <MerlynCoslett> Live
[07:25] <MerlynCoslett> I am attempting to install Ubuntu
[07:25] <n2diy> MerlynCoslett: cool, and you are playing on the other box, hopefully?
[07:25] <IntuitiveNipple> ok... just getting it clear in my head
[07:25] <nvez> alright,igot it IntuitiveNipple, its booting..
[07:25] <MerlynCoslett> yes, i am talking to you on my server
[07:25] <MerlynCoslett> and it will sit at this screen for hours (fell asleep ealier today)
[07:25] <MerlynCoslett> woke up a few hours later
[07:25] <MerlynCoslett> and it was still sitting here
[07:25] <nvez> IntuitiveNipple:it booted fully completetly
[07:25] <nvez> went till "ubuntu login"
[07:25] <nvez> then started x or whatever the gui is, the problem happened
[07:26] <cameron_> Hello everyone
[07:26] <MerlynCoslett> same here nvez, what are you system specs
[07:26] <MerlynCoslett> we both have Nvidia cars
[07:26] <MerlynCoslett> cards*
[07:26] <nvez> E6600 core 2 duo, 2gb ram, nvidia 6600gt
[07:26] <MerlynCoslett> so I am thinking, that might be the issue
[07:26] <cameron_> Hello everyone i need a little bit of help
[07:26] <IntuitiveNipple> nvez: So it sounds like display driver issues for you guys
[07:26] <MerlynCoslett> x2, 1 gb, 7800GT
[07:26] <cameron_> can someone help me
[07:26] <tomsavel> Hi all... just installed ubuntu....looks great :)
[07:26] <nvez> def., IntuitiveNipple.. but i cant figure it out
[07:26] <nvez> :(
[07:26] <riotkittie> hello tomsavel
[07:26] <cameron_> Who here knows what novels chat client looks like
[07:26] <cameron_> Who here knows what novels chat client looks like
[07:26] <h3xis> cameron_, i do
[07:26] <MerlynCoslett> why is it, the site says 7800GT (And I imagine 6600GT) works
[07:26] <MerlynCoslett> yet it wont boot
[07:27] <tomsavel> hi riotkittie
[07:27] <h3xis> cameron_, on windows?
[07:27] <PacketScan> edgy installs evolution version 2.8  how can i back port to 2.6 ?
[07:27] <n2diy> ! backport
[07:27] <cameron_> h3xis you no how when someone sends you a message it just pops up its there a linux version of that ( yes windows)
[07:27] <IntuitiveNipple> You'd better look at this forum thread, guys: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=114768
[07:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about backport - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:27] <h3xis> cameron_, ah, not that i know of :/
[07:27] <zcat[1] > cameron_: linpopup
[07:28] <cameron_> is that any good zcate\?
[07:28] <MerlynCoslett> be nice if I was not such a man
[07:28] <MerlynCoslett> and would search once in a while
[07:28] <tomsavel> I'm running ubuntu on my MacBook using Parallels
[07:28] <riotkittie> heh
[07:28] <zcat[1] > no idea. works identical to winpopup afaik.
[07:28] <L0cKd0wN> ok i adjusted the nvidia settings once again, it's better, but text appears "squished now"
[07:29] <cameron_> zcat[1]  when i have downloaded it threwsynaptic how do i use it ?
[07:29] <zcat[1] > cameron_: no idea. Never used it :)
[07:29] <zcat[1] > man linpopup perhaps?
[07:29] <riotkittie> hooray for pizza. and beer. and uh, heartburn.
[07:29] <cameron_> ok ill try it
[07:29] <MerlynCoslett> ah men to the pizza and beer
[07:29] <computer13137> I have a problem
[07:29] <MerlynCoslett> just not the best time to be drinking
[07:29] <jasin> hi
[07:30] <MerlynCoslett> love debugging on a light head
[07:30] <IntuitiveNipple> don't we all?
[07:30] <computer13137> I just installed Ubuntu and updated it twice to Edgy Eft...
[07:30] <n2diy> cameron_:  open up a terminal, and type the program name.
[07:30] <riotkittie> hehehe
[07:30] <nvez> IntuitiveNipple: dont think that has to do anything with it, its something in xorg.conf and... grrrrr
[07:30] <zcat[1] > alt-F2 and type linpopup, or put it in your session.
[07:30] <computer13137> And now I have tons and tons of 125MB partitions reading as "tempfs"...
[07:30] <cameron_> yeh im trying that now thanks
[07:30] <MerlynCoslett> do you recommend going to an older version of ubuntu?
[07:30] <MerlynCoslett> for the 7800GT Problem
[07:30] <computer13137> What is it all about?
[07:30] <cameron_> how do i put it in my session zcat
[07:30] <tomsavel> how do i know what version i am using?
[07:30] <cameron_> hey zcta wait a min
[07:30] <zcat[1] > preferences > sessions > startup programs > add
[07:31] <edgy> PacketScan: may by in this case you need to install from sources
[07:31] <jasin> uname -r tells you which kernel you are ussing
[07:31] <tomsavel> great thanks!
[07:31] <n2diy> tomsavel: uname -a
[07:31] <tomsavel> gotcha
[07:32] <MerlynCoslett> is there anyway to install ubuntu by console...
[07:32] <MerlynCoslett> not have to install GUI
[07:32] <Jordan_U> !install | MerlynCoslett
[07:32] <ubotu> MerlynCoslett: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[07:32] <computer13137> All: Why does my phpsysinfo page register like fifty "150MB partitions" called "tempfs"?
[07:32] <riotkittie> yes. download the alternate install cd
[07:33] <IntuitiveNipple> MerlynCoslett: yes the Alternate or Server CDs
[07:33] <cameron_> n2diy or zcat[1]  when i send a new message who do i address it to
[07:33] <nvez> MerlynCoslett: i just tried something, crossing fingers that itd work
[07:33] <iratsu> how would one go about sharing home directories over a local network? and is this generally a good thing to do?
[07:34] <n2diy> cameron_:  you can include both our nicks, and we'll both "get" it.
[07:34] <cameron_>  kk so what do i do for address
[07:34] <tomsavel> take care everyone.....great community here :)
[07:34] <L0cKd0wN> 1440 x 900 looks good under windows XP, but text looks real weird under ubuntu, anyone ever experience this?
[07:34] <riotkittie> bye tomsavel
[07:34] <nvez> come on please runn...
[07:34] <n2diy> cameron_:  n2diy, and zcat?
[07:34] <nvez> YES
[07:34] <nvez> I DID IT
[07:34] <tomsavel> bye :)
[07:34] <nvez> I DID IT WOO WOOOWO WOWOWOWO
[07:34] <cameron_> umm n2diy you will do
[07:34] <lovloss> I dont get deb packages much. I have multiverse, universe and main set of course, but i was wondering if there were any other good ones that i could set up for edgy eft... that way i could search for more files with adept. anyone know any?
[07:35] <riotkittie> did what? WOO WOOOWO woo.
[07:35] <nvez> riotkittie: fixed my monitor!!!
[07:35] <MerlynCoslett> nvez: throw it against the wall
[07:35] <riotkittie> nvez, cool!
[07:35] <n2diy> cameron_:  not sure I like the sound of that!? :)
[07:35] <MerlynCoslett> nvez: because I am about to
[07:35] <cameron_> n2diy i dont think this program is write for me
[07:35] <L0cKd0wN> is this a font display problem perhaps?
[07:35] <IntuitiveNipple> nvez: now document it somewhere for others to benefit
[07:35] <IntuitiveNipple> post it in the forums
[07:35] <L0cKd0wN> looks like everything under gnome is affected
[07:35] <Jordan_U> lovloss: Using a lot of 3rd party repos when you don't need them is usually a bad idea
[07:36] <lovloss> Jordan_U: Sometimes there are neat programs =)
[07:36] <jasin> lockdown, whats your color depth set as?
[07:36] <n2diy> cameron_:  I'm having trouble following everything, which program don't you think is right for you?
[07:36] <L0cKd0wN> jasin, 24
[07:36] <cameron_> umm linpopup
[07:36] <jasin> lockdown, ok, good :)
[07:37] <n2diy> cameron_:  sorry, I don't know anything about it, or possible alternative for it.
[07:37] <L0cKd0wN> im assuming if i used 1440 x 900 under windows, i should also be using it now under ubuntu... true?
[07:37] <cameron_>  yeh does anyone on this irc channel no a alternate for novel client chat?
[07:38] <Jordan_U> !easysource | lovloss Here you go if you must, but I would leave them uncommented unless you are searching for a program or you know you need it
[07:38] <ubotu> lovloss Here you go if you must, but I would leave them uncommented unless you are searching for a program or you know you need it: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:38] <jasin> lockdown, use what yoru video card and monitor supports
[07:38] <n2diy> LOckdOwN: nope.
[07:38] <IntuitiveNipple> Linpopup: http://www.littleigloo.org/software_002.php3
[07:38] <jasin> lockdown, windows sometimes will let you use resolutions not supported by the grahpics card and monitor
[07:38] <iratsu> how would one go about sharing home directories over a local network? and is this generally a good thing to do?
[07:38] <L0cKd0wN> well it's a 19" widescreen, onboard video geforce 6100 chipset
[07:38] <L0cKd0wN> i followed the instructions to a T
[07:38] <atarinox> hi, does anybody know a channel for hardware discussion?
[07:39] <jasin> lockdown, lcd's have native resolutions
[07:39] <L0cKd0wN> im pretty certain that 19" WS are 1140x900
[07:39] <L0cKd0wN> 1440*
[07:39] <cameron_> hey can somone go to #calver
[07:40] <n2diy> LOckdOwN: who makes it? Did the get there specs from M$? Did they give the specs to us?
[07:40] <jasin> lockdown, Most LCD monitors are able to inform the PC of their native resolution using Extended display identification data (EDID).
[07:40] <lyml> if I found a bug on ubuntu.com who should I talk to?
[07:41] <Bacchus> Hello.. don't manage to find the Color Schemes in hex for the ubuntu colors.. anyone know there to find them
[07:41] <n2diy> lyml:  bugs.ubuntu.com?
[07:41] <L0cKd0wN> n2diy, i bought the PC over thanksgiving, it's a "Lenovo" desktop
[07:41] <L0cKd0wN> how would i run EDID ?
[07:42] <n2diy> LOckdOwN: great, it is brand new, it will take months for us to reverse engineer it.
[07:42] <L0cKd0wN> but isn't the chipset rather old?
[07:42] <L0cKd0wN> 6100 ?
[07:42] <jasin> lockdown, you dont
[07:43] <jasin> lockdown, Extended display identification data (EDID) is a data structure provided by a computer display to describe its capabilities to a graphics card.
[07:43] <Moon_Rabbits> is there a way that i can add a shortcut (or the ubuntu equivelant of) that leads to a mounted drive to the main Computer folder?
[07:43] <Moon_Rabbits> equivalent*
[07:43] <n2diy> LOckdOwN: if that was the case, you wouldn't be here. Have you googled on linux and 6100?
[07:43] <L0cKd0wN> i was under the impression graphics cards are in the 8000 area now heh
[07:43] <cameron_> owww no one can help me
[07:43] <Jordan_U> Moon_Rabbits: Yes, what do you mean by main computer folder though?
[07:44] <zcat[1] > Jordan_U: Places >  Computer  ?
[07:44] <jasin> lockdown, version numbers mean little really
[07:44] <Moon_Rabbits> Jordan_U: Well, when I click Places and click Computer,
[07:44] <cameron_> if someone can help me with network chat programs join #calver
[07:45] <L0cKd0wN> jasin,  :(
[07:45] <n2diy> LOckdOwN: you don't seem to understand the battle? M$ and the folks that made your monitor, share info. with each other, and agree to not share it with linux!
[07:45] <Moon_Rabbits> I'd like to create a shortcut to that drive so that other members of my family can use it without bothering the main Filesystem drive, potentially buggering things up.
[07:45] <jasin> lockdown, you can use read-edid  to get your monitors specs.
[07:45] <Jordan_U> Moon_Rabbits: To make a link, the equivelent of a shortcut, right click the folder and go to "make link" or use ln -s
[07:45] <jasin> lockdown,
[07:45] <jasin> read-edid gets the specs of a monitor from the hardware,
[07:46] <L0cKd0wN> bash: read-edid: command not found
[07:46] <zcat[1] > apt-get install read-edid
[07:46] <L0cKd0wN> doh!
[07:46] <Moon_Rabbits> Jordan_U: Make link is greyed out, I can't select it?
[07:46] <jasin> lockdown, http://packages.debian.org/unstable/utils/read-edid
[07:46] <L0cKd0wN> unstable... eek
[07:47] <burepe> how can I tell the mount location of my usb hard drive?
[07:47] <L0cKd0wN> don't like the look of that heh
[07:47] <Moon_Rabbits> (also, this folder is a mounted drive, not a random dir)
[07:47] <L0cKd0wN> could this be related to a kernel problem
[07:47] <L0cKd0wN> when grub started, i had numerous choices
[07:47] <jasin> lockdown, is that what you cam here for, to complain?
[07:47] <jasin> http://freshmeat.net/projects/read-edid/
[07:48] <L0cKd0wN> nah i came to unsquish the text lol
[07:48] <L0cKd0wN> :P
[07:48] <Jordan_U> jasin: If you are going to link people to packages directly from Debian you should link them to the source package and tell them how to use apt-get build dep
[07:48] <jasin> Jordan, he knows how to download .deb files
[07:48] <jasin> Jordan, dont believe me? Just ask him
[07:49] <Jordan_U> jasin: But binary debian .debs may not work in Ubuntu
[07:49] <zcat[1] > n2diy: that's a cop-out a lot of the time anyhow. There's a lot of stuff Ubuntu could do, that is trivially configured but is still not set up by default. Edgy is better, hopefully Feisty will be near-perfect. If read-edid can pick up the resolution, why can't the xorg-server config?!
[07:49] <Moon_Rabbits> Does anyone know why I can't make a link to my second disc?
[07:49] <jasin> Jordan, you is speculating
[07:49] <jasin> Jordan, please stick with facts
[07:51] <n2diy> zcat[1] :  ok, its a copout? Is it a lie? Ubuntu is pressing it a lot better then any distro I've played with, but we are still playing catch up.
[07:51] <jasin> lockdown, see: http://john.fremlin.de/programs/linux/read-edid/ for more on read-edid
[07:51] <Jordan_U> jasin: It is a fact that binary debian packages are not always compatable with Ubuntu, unless you know they work, not just that they worked for you, I think you should not recommend them
[07:51] <lyml> i had a dream about ubuntu last night :)
[07:52] <jasin> Jordan, no its not.
[07:52] <lyml> i dreamt they released ubuntu command & counquer :)
[07:52] <cybercod> hello again everyone
[07:52] <L0cKd0wN> bookmarked, gonna restart GDM brb
[07:52] <jasin> Jordan, its your opinion or expierence, but its hardly a fact.
[07:52] <n2diy> zcat[1] :  and I've never heard of edid, so I'm behind the times too.
[07:52] <jasin> n2diy, of course
[07:53] <kiwinz_sucks> debian packages may work, but they're not compiled for ubuntu's custom kernel
[07:53] <Jordan_U> jasin: Join #ubuntu-offtopic please, I don't want to clutter a support channel
[07:53] <kiwinz_sucks> so there's no guarantee
[07:53] <L0cKd0wN> lol now i have a scrollable destkop.... lol
[07:54] <jasin> kiwinz, all kernels are custom, regardless of the distro.
[07:54] <L0cKd0wN> kinda cool.... kinda
[07:54] <kiwinz_sucks> i know that, jasin
[07:54] <kiwinz_sucks> that's what i'm saying
[07:54] <jasin> kiwinz, then what you just said is illrelavent
[07:54] <kiwinz_sucks> not at all
[07:54] <voidmage> Any boinc users?
[07:54] <kiwinz_sucks> it's as relevant as saying gentoo binaries don't work with ubuntu
[07:54] <kiwinz_sucks> kernels are different
[07:54] <voidmage> Any boinc users know how to get boinc to use nice?
[07:55] <n2diy> jasin, I did my best not to go into RMS mode.
[07:55] <jasin> kiwinz, if kernels being custom was a problem  then people would have to compile source code packages would not work in anything.
[07:56] <kiwinz_sucks> not at all, jason, because packages are compiled per distro, with their kernel in mind
[07:56] <FFForever> how can i extract a .pak?
[07:56] <zcat[1] > n2diy: If there's an open-source program that can read the EDID data, it's hardly Microsoft's fault if the xorg-config isn't making use of it.. right?
[07:57] <Jordan_U> jasin: It is not only a kernel problem, it is also a problem with differing library / dependency versions among other things
[07:57] <kiwinz_sucks> indeed
[07:57] <L0cKd0wN> this might be overkill, but do other distros handle resolution better than this... say fedora?
[07:57] <kiwinz_sucks> even packages from earlier ubuntu releases often have problems with edgy
[07:57] <n2diy> zcat[1] : I have no clue what EDID is, but if M$ own it, yes it is a problem for open source.
[07:57] <L0cKd0wN> used that for a while, until i switched to here heh
[07:57] <n2diy> own/owns
[07:57] <L0cKd0wN> i've also not tried to run fc6
[07:57] <L0cKd0wN> on this new lcd
[07:57] <jasin> Jordan, if its that much of a problem then no one should even be ussing linux.
[07:58] <kiwinz_sucks> L0cKd0wN, resolution support is pretty sketchy, but i can tell you fedora core 6 sucks in general
[07:58] <kiwinz_sucks> jasin--stop making assumptions.  people use linux because packages are made per distro
[07:58] <kiwinz_sucks> that's why you have ubuntu repositories, not debian repositories
[07:58] <L0cKd0wN> uh huh...
[07:58] <Jordan_U> jason: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/MarkShuttleworth look at the section "What about binary compatibility"
[07:59] <kiwinz_sucks> lockdown, you just need your screen resolution fixed?
[07:59] <jasin> kiwinz, like Jordan has been doing?
[07:59] <zcat[1] > n2diy: you're assuming ... I'd have to google and see if there's any legal reson not to use it. But I suspect it's just something nobody got around to doing yet.
[07:59] <L0cKd0wN> so im S.O.L it seems heh
[07:59] <jasin> Jordan, no thanks.
[07:59] <kiwinz_sucks> jasin--i'm not here to pick sides, i don't know what Jordan's been doing, but i know YOU are making assumptions that aren't true
[07:59] <L0cKd0wN> kiwinz_sucks, correct, im at my native resolution (which is apparently 1440x900) but it looks off
[07:59] <kiwinz_sucks> how did you get it to that resolution?
[07:59] <L0cKd0wN> i told it
[07:59] <carpenterThe> can anyone suggest a good UI for cron?
[08:00] <L0cKd0wN> thats what i was running under windows xp
[08:00] <jasin> kiwinz, obviosuly you are considering you have said not a word to him about any of this.
[08:00] <n2diy> zcat[1] : I think you are making assumptions too, if we could play with it don't you think a million OS propramers would be doing it?
[08:00] <kiwinz_sucks> the easiest way to fix resolution is to simply replace the correct the horizontal and vertical refresh rates in your xorg.conf, make sure your default depth includes your resolution, and restart
[08:01] <kiwinz_sucks> if you used any other complicated method to do it, it was unnecessary
[08:01] <arrenlex> n2diy: This sounds like an interesting discussion; what are you talking about?
[08:01] <IntuitiveNipple> EDID is a VESA standard for display discovery, basically
[08:01] <jasin> thinking you are at the correct resolution does not mean you are.
[08:01] <L0cKd0wN> so i should edit xorg.conf directly? i've been using the command "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[08:01] <kiwinz_sucks> lockdown--again, you assume.  i haven't been following your conversation, i just noticed you were saying all debians worked with ubuntu, which is untrue
[08:01] <kiwinz_sucks> yeah, edit it manually
[08:01] <tomas_> is there an easyubuntu for UBUNTU 6.10?
[08:01] <n2diy> arrenlex: open source/closed source support for drivers and what not.
[08:01] <kiwinz_sucks> do you know your horizontal and vertical frequencies?
[08:01] <zcat[1] > n2diy: according to wikipedia it's a completely open and documented standard from VESA.
[08:02] <zcat[1] > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EDID
[08:02] <L0cKd0wN> kiwinz_sucks, no, but when i ran the command, it detected them for me
[08:02] <Jordan_U> jasin: I gave you a link to Mark shutleworth's wiki entry about why there IS binary incompatability between Ubuntu and Debian and you refuse to read it? why?
[08:02] <L0cKd0wN> just had to answer the questions one by one
[08:02] <kiwinz_sucks> lockdown--that's what it says, anyway
[08:02] <kiwinz_sucks> i've done it multiple ways
[08:02] <kiwinz_sucks> kubuntu even tried to auto-configure it for me
[08:02] <kiwinz_sucks> but it messed up
[08:02] <L0cKd0wN> and i don't i said all debians worked with ubuntu, im not experienced enough to say anything remotely intelligent in this place lol
[08:03] <n2diy> zcat[1] : cool, when you go on vacation you'll fix it for us, right?
[08:03] <kiwinz_sucks> tomas_ try http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html
[08:03] <L0cKd0wN> i don't think*
[08:03] <jasin> Jordan, *yawn*
[08:03] <kiwinz_sucks> lockdown--not you, i was talking to jasin
[08:03] <L0cKd0wN> ah :)
[08:03] <kiwinz_sucks> jasin, are you a troll?
[08:03] <kiwinz_sucks> i'm thinking as much
[08:03] <zcat[1] > n2diy: My point; it's broken because nobody got around to writing the code yet, NOT because MSFT won't let them!
[08:03] <jasin> kiwinz, are you an ass?
[08:03] <n2diy> zcat[1] : cool, when you go on vacation you'll fix it for us, right?
[08:04] <Jordan_U> !language | jasin
[08:04] <ubotu> jasin: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:04] <RudyValencia> Are the repositories for breezy still active?
[08:04] <zcat[1] > n2diy: Why don't you. You're the one that claimed it was some conspiracy from MSFT why it doesn't work already...
[08:04] <cybercod> ugh... i hate it when things get ugly
[08:04] <tomas_> is this suppose to be a one line command?
[08:04] <tomas_> wget -q http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[08:04] <tomas_> ?
[08:05] <kiwinz_sucks> yes
[08:05] <kiwinz_sucks> one line
[08:05] <Jordan_U> tomas_: Yes
[08:05] <Quinn> hi, I just want to thank everyone in the community for being so helpful, more and more I am switching to open source and one that makes it great are helpful ppl on here and forums :)
[08:05] <n2diy> zcat[1] : I don't get vacations, and I don't code!
[08:05] <cybercod> tomas   read much Raymond E Feist?
[08:05] <tomas_> it only says OK
[08:05] <tomas_> then nothing happens
[08:05] <kiwinz_sucks> you're welcome, quinn
[08:05] <kiwinz_sucks> ...from the community
[08:05] <Quinn> :D
[08:05] <kiwinz_sucks> tomas, that's all you need
[08:05] <cybercod> thats just the key tomas
[08:05] <cybercod> you still need to start it up
[08:06] <kiwinz_sucks> when you access a repository, you have a key to validate it
[08:06] <kiwinz_sucks> the command you entered just downloaded the key
[08:06] <zcat[1] > n2diy: perhaps I'll add it to my script.. I've already got a fairly goot bit of code to detect and find/configure drivers for nvidia cards...
[08:06] <cybercod> after you download it from repo
[08:06] <zcat[1] > *good
[08:06] <Moon_Rabbits> How come when I try and create a symbolic link to my second disc in the slash-root it says that it already exists, but I can't see it, even in my root account?
[08:06] <arrenlex> Quinn: 1. Help out on ubuntu IRC
[08:06] <arrenlex> 2. ???
[08:06] <arrenlex> 3. Profit!
[08:06] <arrenlex> ^ is ~'s plan.
[08:06] <kiwinz_sucks> tomas, use this link:
[08:06] <kiwinz_sucks> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/files/easyubuntu_latest.deb
[08:07] <kiwinz_sucks> then double-click the file it downloads and it will install easy ubuntu
[08:07] <cybercod> oh no... not the underpants gnomes!!!
[08:07] <n2diy> zcat[1] : ok, I'm re-training to get into the workplace again, what, if, I can learn to code, what language should I learn?
[08:07] <imbecile> lol
[08:07] <h3xis> n2diy, python
[08:07] <L0cKd0wN> if I pastebinned my xorg.conf , could you guys take a look ?
[08:07] <RudyValencia> is breezy still working?
[08:07] <kiwinz_sucks> certainly, lockdown
[08:07] <adorablepuppy> Hello.
[08:07] <Jordan_U> Moon_Rabbits: Does the name begin with a period? ( that is how you make a file/folder hidden in *nix )
[08:07] <L0cKd0wN> ok fabulous
[08:07] <kiwinz_sucks> rudy-- breezy is still up, i think, yes
[08:07] <RudyValencia> ok cool
[08:07] <n2diy> h3xis: Thank you.
[08:08] <tomas_> if i type that in the terminal, should i expect for something else to pop up or something
[08:08] <tomas_> it only says OK
[08:08] <Flannel> RudyValencia, yep.  Breezy is still supported until April
[08:08] <adorablepuppy> Synaptic seems to be very slow right now (about 3 kBps), is there some reason?
[08:08] <RudyValencia> OK
[08:08] <PFA> can someone help me with bitlbee... i know to "just ask" but i don't even know what i am asking!! this whole thing is confusing the heck out of me. it is really bad.
[08:08] <kiwinz_sucks> tomas, no, it shouldn't say anything else or pop up
[08:08] <L0cKd0wN> http://rafb.net/p/ye2Ifv76.html
[08:08] <cybercod> adorable... you're not the first person having that trouble... so ... hmmm
[08:08] <h3xis> n2diy, ive just started learning it and it's been kind of "easy" but i also have some basic knowledge in java and c++ but it seems like a good language to pick up
[08:08] <kiwinz_sucks> click this link to download the easyubuntu program:  http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/files/easyubuntu_latest.deb
[08:08] <tomas_> then how do i get the ubuntu
[08:08] <Moon_Rabbits> Jordan_U: No, it's got no period. e.e;; Well, this is only my first day on a *nix distro so :}
[08:08] <RudyValencia> What's the diff. between Ubuntu and Debian - other than Ubuntu being more up-to-date?
[08:08] <Jordan_U> adorablepuppy: I think one of the mirrors is slow today
[08:08] <tomas_> i downloaded it, installed it, then type that one line command
[08:09] <tomas_> i thought i will get the options to choose which one to install (flash, java, etc.)
[08:09] <kiwinz_sucks> yes, you will
[08:09] <n2diy> h3xis: Roger that, I can navigate Basic, and PERL, and that is it.
[08:09] <kiwinz_sucks> try typing "easyubuntu" into your terminal
[08:09] <h3xis> n2diy, i couldnt motivate myself to learn perl
[08:09] <n2diy> h3xis: And HTML.
[08:09] <adorablepuppy> My usual speed on synaptic is near my cap rate (3Mbps). 3kBps is absurd! :D
[08:09] <h3xis> n2diy, haha who doesnt know html
[08:09] <tomas_> get it THANKS
[08:10] <kiwinz_sucks> welcome
[08:10] <cybercod> The repos are slow... must be a M$ conspiracy
[08:10] <Moon_Rabbits> Jordan_U: Where do I put the folder when I create the link? I don't see periods before any other folder names and it let me create my other folders/directories without periods.
[08:10] <arrenlex> adorablepuppy: If the rest of your internet is significantly faster, it might just be that your mirrors are in bad shape at the moment.
[08:10] <B_166-ER-X> I have a problem with a fresh Edgy install (tried with dapper, does the same thing) , on a dual boot machine with Win Xp,  i cannot get the internet working, its set to 'DHCP'  and all...theres jsut..no juice.  It works fine on My install though, as with Win Xp (i am now on anoter pc with Edgy ) anyone have and idea where to look ?
[08:10] <Flannel> adorablepuppy, it's the mirror you're using.  If it really bothers you, change mirrors
[08:10] <Moon_Rabbits> Where do I put the period when I create the link?*
[08:10] <n2diy> h3xis: html, the copy and paste language!
[08:10] <kiwinz_sucks> lockdown, do you have the manual for your monitor?
[08:10] <h3xis> n2diy, yeah really.
[08:10] <cybercod> moon-rabbis    hit CTRL+H... that will show you all hidden folders
[08:11] <adorablepuppy> Flannel: How do I change mirrors?
[08:11] <L0cKd0wN> kiwinz_sucks, Im not sure
[08:11] <n2diy> h3xis: It works.
[08:11] <kiwinz_sucks> that would help greatly
[08:11] <L0cKd0wN> i could look it up online i think
[08:11] <Flannel> adorablepuppy, there's a way through synaptic and/or software properties, but it's much easier to manually edit your sources.list
[08:11] <Moon_Rabbits> cybercod: I have it set to display hidden folders already, but there isn't already a link to my drive-two folder in my slashroot
[08:11] <kiwinz_sucks> that's a good idea
[08:12] <cybercod> ah... ok... just tryin to help
[08:12] <Moon_Rabbits> Thanks anyways~
[08:12] <kiwinz_sucks> also, do you have a backup of you original xorg.conf?  reconfigure should have made one
[08:12] <kiwinz_sucks> post that one for me, if you could
[08:12] <jasin> That jerks on ignore
[08:12] <h3xis> n2diy, oh i know. back in the late 90s when i was a kid i used to make all kinds of sites and play with html using notepad and copying and pasting was a habit
[08:12] <adorablepuppy> flannel: Is that adding the "deb" lines? Is there another mirror for main packages then?
[08:12] <L0cKd0wN> k
[08:12] <jasin> lockdown, have they got your resolution problem fixed?
[08:13] <Spinnaker> Which folder should I put XCHAT scripts? PLS HELP ME
[08:13] <Flannel> adorablepuppy, there's lots of mirrors.  I'm... not entirely sure where you'd find a list of them though, but yeah, it's the urls after each "deb" or "deb-src" line
[08:13] <h3xis> Spinnaker, put it wherever you feel like
[08:13] <Flannel> Spinnaker, probably ~/.xchat/
[08:13] <marshall> hey guys
[08:13] <n2diy> h3xis: roger that, /edit/view/source.
[08:13] <kiwinz_sucks> hey marshall
[08:13] <h3xis> n2diy, exactly.
[08:13] <cantona> anyone know where can I buy a "linux plate"?
[08:13] <marshall> can somebody help me install banshee 0.11.3 plugins from svn? i have no idea how this works
[08:14] <adorablepuppy> Are these the mirrors? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[08:14] <Jordan_U> adorablepuppy: Go to System -> Administration -> Software Sources
[08:14] <kiwinz_sucks> !svn
[08:14] <ubotu> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[08:14] <ydnar> has anyone used skype v3 for windows via wine?
[08:14] <L0cKd0wN> jasin, not yet
[08:14] <L0cKd0wN> workin on it
[08:14] <jasin> spinnaker, you can put them anywhere you like.
[08:14] <L0cKd0wN> kiwinz_sucks, http://rafb.net/p/vNpXXT27.html
[08:14] <jasin> Lockdown, figures
[08:14] <L0cKd0wN> thats xorg.conf.backup
[08:14] <Flannel> adorablepuppy, I believe.  these are hte official ones: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive/OfficialMirrors
[08:15] <Spinnaker> okay thx
[08:15] <L0cKd0wN> the screen is just somewhat off, but it's very noticeable enough to be a huge bother
[08:15] <Jordan_U> adorablepuppy: Where it says "download from" choose "main server"
[08:15] <kiwinz_sucks> ok, lemme check out the files
[08:15] <L0cKd0wN> kiwinz_sucks, i ran that command so many times, i prolly butchered the config
[08:15] <kiwinz_sucks> ...that sucks
[08:16] <kiwinz_sucks> um
[08:16] <cybercod> Lockdown... i would suggest deleting the 1440x1440 from the display modes... your screen is obviously not a perfect square
[08:16] <kiwinz_sucks> are you absolutely sure your native is 1440x900?
[08:16] <adorablepuppy> Jordan_U: Main server is just as slow as the other one. I'm just going to start trying mirrors
[08:16] <jasin> the default location for xchat scripts is, ~/.xchat2/ Where "~" represents your home directory i.e.: $HOME/.xchat2/
[08:17] <Greib> lockdown did you buy one of those newegg 180$ monitors?
[08:17] <marshall> kiwinz_sucks, thanks but i already consulted ubotu
[08:17] <IntuitiveNipple> 1440x900 is a pretty common resolution for widescreen
[08:17] <jasin> main server is not sloww here
[08:17] <kiwinz_sucks> actually, it's 960...
[08:17] <cybercod> but in his xorg.conf... it shows 1440x1440... not x900
[08:17] <jasin> lockdown, and now they blame your monitor because they can't fix your problem.
[08:17] <marshall> does anybody know what "shift: 347: can't shift that many" means when doing ./autogen.sh?
[08:17] <kiwinz_sucks> that's his OLD config showing 1440x1440
[08:18] <cybercod> ah.
[08:18] <cybercod> ok... sorry..
[08:18] <kiwinz_sucks> his other link was posted earlier...no problem
[08:18] <cybercod> i'm shuttin up now
[08:18] <userbn> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[08:18] <Moon_Rabbits> Is it possible for me to move anything into the Computer:/// ?
[08:18] <Moon_Rabbits> Or is that restricted to only showing me my CDrom/floppy devices + Filesystem?
[08:18] <kiwinz_sucks> anyway, if your resolution is right, lockdown, try changing it to 1440x960, not 1440x900
[08:18] <L0cKd0wN> the monitor came with the desktop system heh
[08:18] <Hoxzer> how can I change mouse speed?
[08:18] <L0cKd0wN> it was $500 or something, get what i paid for lol
[08:19] <Flannel> So, I just installed (dapper) using LVM, /boot is not on LVM, / and /etc are their own logical volumes, on first boot I get "INIT: no inittab file found" and am then asked which runlevel I'd like.  is it poor grub configuration? or...?
[08:19] <Moon_Rabbits> Hoxzer: System -> Preferences -> Mouse
[08:19] <jasin> lockdown, a word of advice, if you want to fix something in linux don't bother taking the advice of people here .. read the mans, howtos, and do some research.
[08:19] <kiwinz_sucks> moon_rabbits--computer isn't a location, it's just how nautilus displays different key areas
[08:19] <adorablepuppy> Ab
[08:19] <kiwinz_sucks> you can add something to fstab or something and it will show up there
[08:19] <adorablepuppy> AH*, Main has perked up to 2.8 Mbps.
[08:20] <Jordan_U> Moon_Rabbits: Sorry, guess I gave you bad advice :)
[08:20] <n2diy> Hoxzer: click on system/prefrences/mouse?
[08:20] <Moon_Rabbits> Really? Okay, cuz that's what I've been trying to do all day and I haven't figured out how
[08:20] <Hoxzer> Moon_Rabbits: thx
[08:20] <L0cKd0wN> hmmm
[08:20] <L0cKd0wN> ok restarting X brb
[08:20] <L0cKd0wN> *crosses fingers*
[08:20] <kiwinz_sucks> k
[08:21] <Ace_NoOne> Hi there! Yesterday I installed Gnome and Beryl over my (freshly set up) Kubuntu, and now my machine only boots into terminal/CLI mode - any clue how to fix this?
[08:21] <kiwinz_sucks> ace_noone, what instructions did you follow?
[08:21] <kiwinz_sucks> you shouldn't have altered the boot whatsoever
[08:21] <Flannel> Ace_NoOne, do you get any errors?  (you might try asking in #ubuntu-xgl, that's the XGL/Beryl channel)
[08:21] <Ace_NoOne> the Ubuntu wiki's
[08:21] <kiwinz_sucks> the best guide to use is the beryl official one
[08:22] <L0cKd0wN> i can't see my mouse cursor!!! O_o
[08:22] <Jordan_U> Ace_NoOne: Did you use XGL?
[08:22] <kiwinz_sucks> haha
[08:22] <L0cKd0wN> and it looks more horrible lol
[08:22] <jasin> ace_no, type startx to load x
[08:22] <L0cKd0wN> thank god for [tab] 
[08:22] <Ace_NoOne> well, I didn't get any errors; what happened is Gnome locked up, I pressed CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE - and then nothing worked anymore, so I couldn't finish the Beryl installation
[08:22] <jasin> ace_no, kdm to load kde, gdm to load gnome
[08:23] <kiwinz_sucks> well then probably you should change your xorg.conf back to how it was so you can use your mouse
[08:23] <arrenlex> jasin: That's not how it works.
[08:23] <cybercod> Lockdown... do lower resolutions look bad too?
[08:23] <Flannel> Ace_NoOne, definately ask in #ubuntu-xgl, they should be able to help you out.
[08:23] <Ace_NoOne> thx
[08:23] <arrenlex> jasin: Those are different display managers which can each lode any other system. It just happens that GDM is written in GTK and KDM is written in QT.
[08:23] <jasin> arrenle, oh so start x wont load x? yeah, whatever.
[08:23] <arrenlex> load ***
[08:23] <arrenlex> jasin: The other thing. About kdm and gdm.
[08:23] <jasin> arrenlex, I know what their written in, thanks.
[08:24] <arrenlex> jasin: You know what they're written in but not what they do?
[08:24] <n2diy> What does ctrl+alt+ (+ or -) do?   Is that screen resolution, or just zooming in or out?
[08:24] <kiwinz_sucks> alright, i've got an idea, lockdown
[08:24] <jasin> arrenlex, thats your opinion
[08:24] <arrenlex> jasin: What is?
[08:25] <kiwinz_sucks> n2diy-- it cycles through you different X sessions
[08:25] <kiwinz_sucks> arrenlex, ignore him
[08:25] <mlpug> i have fresh edgy on ibm thinkpad T20. machine halts totally roughly three times out of four boots. this is around where it is supposed to go into graphical mode. how to debug this?
[08:25] <kiwinz_sucks> hes trolling, and has been for a while now
[08:25] <jasin> The xinit program allows a user to manually start an X server. The startx script is a front-end for xinit.
[08:25] <arrenlex> kiwinz_sucks: Oh. Someone should put up a "do not feed the trolls sign".
[08:25] <arrenlex> trolls" sign.
[08:25] <Greib> aww no nerd fight... tragic
[08:25] <n2diy> kiwinz_sucks: so  it cycles through the xorg.conf settings?
[08:25] <kiwinz_sucks> bascially, yeah
[08:25] <Ace_NoOne> nvm guys, fixed it by restoring the xorg.conf (thank god I'd made a backup)
[08:26] <mlpug> is there some general rule to make settings in xorg.conf more safe?
[08:26] <jasin> The two alternative methods for starting an X server is by using a display manager and starting the X server and then manually starting one or more clients. Using a display manager is the most commonly used method.
[08:26] <n2diy> kiwinz_sucks: Hello, can't we test our resolution settings that way?
[08:26] <adorablepuppy> I noticed a virus scanner in the synaptic package manager, is this really necessary? Are there viruses for linux now?
[08:26] <arrenlex> jasin: (00:22:46) jasin: ace_no, kdm to load kde, gdm to load gnome <---- wrong.
[08:26] <kiwinz_sucks> better?
[08:26] <burepe>  I using a faq to add virtual hosts to apache and it says to "# Add this line to the Hosts file:
[08:26] <burepe>  71.155.186.91     directory.thepalace.com
[08:26] <burepe>  " I am not sure what I am supposed to change the values to for my set up. Can someone tell me what the number means and if I am supposed to add the directory in the root of my apache install as as part of my url?
[08:26] <L0cKd0wN> ok i tried to put everything back, the best i could
[08:27] <L0cKd0wN> still no mouse pointer
[08:27] <L0cKd0wN> lol
[08:27] <cybercod> adorable... it helps to be able to scan files for viruses so you don't give them to poor disillusioned windows users
[08:27] <L0cKd0wN> i have an extra problem now, wahoo!
[08:27] <arrenlex> !virus | adorablepuppy
[08:27] <ubotu> adorablepuppy: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[08:27] <kiwinz_sucks> oh geez
[08:27] <Jordan_U> adorablepuppy: That is mostly for scanning for windows viruses so you don't send them to somebody else or as a mail filter
[08:27] <jasin> arrenlex, In the X Window System, an X display manager runs as a program, allowing starting a session on an X server from the same or another computer.
[08:27] <adorablepuppy> :D I see, protection for outgoing files.
[08:27] <Ace_NoOne> btw: how can I edit a file (e.g. the xorg.conf) as root? on KDE, there's an item for that in the context menu, but on Gnome it seems I have to change file permission via the terminal first!?
[08:27] <kiwinz_sucks> so then copy everything frmo the link you gave me, and replace your entire xorg.conf with it
[08:27] <jasin> arrenlex, I know what display managers do, thanks.
[08:27] <riotkittie> uhhh. is there a way to logout of gnome via command line?
[08:27] <kiwinz_sucks> it'll put the settings back to what they were when it worked
[08:27] <L0cKd0wN> k
[08:27] <kiwinz_sucks> http://rafb.net/p/ye2Ifv76.html
[08:27] <L0cKd0wN> uhhh could you send that link back to me
[08:27] <L0cKd0wN> lol thx
[08:28] <cybercod> wow.. i think he's got a chip on BOTH shoulders
[08:28] <L0cKd0wN> one step ahead haha
[08:28] <jasin> arrenlex, stop being a jerk
[08:28] <r_rehashed> when i boot, i get an error saying `tty: job-control turned off' and it goes into an `(intramfs)' prompt
[08:28] <L0cKd0wN> argh! i can't click it no pointer lol
[08:28] <r_rehashed> what does this mean?
[08:28] <kiwinz_sucks> lockdown, try ctrl+a
[08:28] <n2diy> riotkittie: init 2?
[08:28] <Jordan_U> Ace_NoOne: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf there is a way to make a menu item like in KDE but I don't remember how
[08:28] <r_rehashed> the error is not exact. it's something like that
[08:29] <kiwinz_sucks> WAIT, use this one:  http://rafb.net/p/ye2Ifv76.nln.html
[08:29] <kiwinz_sucks> got rid of the extra crap for you
[08:29] <hammad> Hi I'm new to Ubuntu I'm having a problem listening to anything from my speakers on my computer, if someone can help me it would be greatly appreciated.
[08:29] <cybercod> hammad.. no sound at all?
[08:29] <hammad> None
[08:29] <erpo> Hey all. What cool software can I add to my edgy machine to spiff out my desktop? I'm thinking along the lines of a compositor or xplanet or some linux version of Mac OS X's dashboard widgets. What software might I not have heard of before?
[08:29] <erpo> *Edgy machine
[08:29] <L0cKd0wN> sudo KILL URSELF
[08:30] <L0cKd0wN> lol, thats how i feel right now
[08:30] <hammad> None cybercod
[08:30] <kiwinz_sucks> hammad, double-click your speaker icon in the panel and make sure all your options are turned on and the volume is up
[08:30] <L0cKd0wN> ok thanks kiwinz_sucks
[08:30] <kiwinz_sucks> you might have to edit the preferences
[08:30] <Ace_NoOne> btw: thx Jordan_U
[08:30] <cybercod> ok.. hammad... the basics... speakers plugged in... turned on... plugged into correct jack?
[08:30] <hammad> correct.
[08:30] <hammad> when i go into windows everything works fine.
[08:30] <cybercod> hammad... apples and oranges
[08:30] <hammad> hehe as far as i can see in ubuntu nothing is muted
[08:30] <cybercod> but yes, that verifies they're hooked up properly
[08:31] <kiwinz_sucks> erpo, Beryl is the compositor to use, and gdesklets add widgets
[08:31] <Ace_NoOne> Jordan_U: what would be the command for accessing the GUI for file permissions tho?
[08:31] <cybercod> hammad  you have a volume icon next to clock?
[08:31] <hammad> other than "capture"
[08:31] <jasin> linux does not have virus problems? LOL
[08:31] <Jordan_U> erpo: beryl , bb ( ascii animation demo ) , kiba-dock ( composited dock with a physics engine, requires composited WM like beryl )
[08:31] <hammad> yes i do
[08:31] <kiwinz_sucks> Ace_NoOne, if you have permission to change the file, just right click on it
[08:31] <kiwinz_sucks> if not, you have to do it from the command line
[08:31] <L0cKd0wN> ok brb again :)
[08:31] <Flannel> Jordan_U, libcaca is better than AA/BB anyway -- color ASCII
[08:32] <jasin>    The myth that Linux is immune to viruses still persists.
[08:32] <cybercod> hammad  if you r-click the icon and hit preferences, what device does it show that it is using?
[08:32] <jasin> And thats very sad, people should know better.
[08:32] <erpo> Jordan_U, kiwinz_sucks: Thanks. :)
[08:32] <r_rehashed> hammad: does the volume bar come down when u click on the volume icon?
[08:32] <Ace_NoOne> kiwinz_sucks: but I usually don't (as I'm a non-adminstrative user by default, ain't I?)
[08:32] <hammad> HDA Intel Alsa Mixer
[08:32] <hammad> and next drop down is
[08:32] <cybercod> hammad onboard sound?
[08:33] <hammad> Sigmatel SCaC9221 something
[08:33] <cybercod> hammad... do you have both a sound card AND onboard sound?
[08:33] <r_rehashed> a similar thing happened to me and i found my card didn't support gstreamer
[08:33] <kiwinz_sucks> well what are you trying to do?  if you just want to change access to the folder/file, the command is "sudo chmod 777 (file path here)"
[08:33] <hammad> ya the volume bar comes down
[08:33] <hammad> when i clikc on it
[08:33] <kiwinz_sucks> that'll give everyone read/write
[08:33] <hammad> I'm not sure what I have
[08:33] <hammad> exactly how can I check?
[08:33] <jasin> Viruses by Type: Linux http://www.viruslibrary.com/virusinfo/Linux.htm
[08:33] <kiwinz_sucks> if you want, i posted a script on my site that will allow you to right-click on any file or folder to access it
[08:34] <Flannel> kiwinz_sucks, and is usually one of the best methods of destroying a system
[08:34] <kiwinz_sucks> flannel-- if you're sharing a pc with sensitive data, but most people aren't
[08:34] <cybercod> do you have two sets of sound jacks?  one vertical near the mouse and keyboard plugs? and a second set lower horizontally in one of the card bays?
[08:34] <kiwinz_sucks> better now, lockdown?
[08:34] <L0cKd0wN> ok back to normal, at 1280 x 1024 upon startup
[08:34] <L0cKd0wN> lol
[08:34] <L0cKd0wN> streeetched
[08:34] <Ace_NoOne> kiwinz_sucks: what I'm trying to do is to "un-gray-out" the file permissions section in the properties window
[08:35] <L0cKd0wN> brb have an idea
[08:35] <kiwinz_sucks> Ace, you can't do that unless you already have permission to the file
[08:35] <jasin> omly root should be able to edit files on your system.
[08:35] <jasin> only root should be able to edit files on your system.
[08:35] <Ace_NoOne> kiwinz_sucks: but how do I get permission - how do I make Ubuntu/Gnome ask me for the root pw
[08:35] <kiwinz_sucks> lockdown, if you give me your monitor make and model, i can startup my kubuntu live cd and see what it configures
[08:35] <jasin> Use sudo
[08:35] <kiwinz_sucks> http://othello.alma.edu/~07tmhopk/ubuntuhowto.html#openasroot
[08:36] <Flannel> So, I just installed (dapper) using LVM, /boot is not on LVM, / and /etc are their own logical volumes, on first boot I get "INIT: no inittab file found" and am then asked which runlevel I'd like.  How do I fix this?
[08:36] <adorablepuppy> I've been using different linux distros for years now, but I think Ubuntu is the one like the best. So far anyway. . .
[08:36] <kiwinz_sucks> that's a how-to for a script so you can access stuff as root
[08:36] <kiwinz_sucks> from there, you can change permissions in the GUI
[08:36] <hammad> I have nothing near the mouse and keyboard USB plugins
[08:36] <hammad> The place where my speakers go in are above in a little jack, its beside the mic jack n stuff
[08:36] <GOATSLAYER> guys, someone told me to """"svn co""""  some site, and the terminal does not recognize svn as a command, what do i do?
[08:36] <cybercod> hammad... so there's just the one set of sound jacks
[08:36] <hammad> yes your right.
[08:37] <jasin> dont change permissions thats a potential securirty risk, use: sudo gedit
[08:37] <kiwinz_sucks> !svn | GOATSLAYER
[08:37] <ubotu> GOATSLAYER: svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[08:37] <arrenlex> GOATSLAYER: install the subversion package
[08:37] <feli> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[08:37] <cybercod> be right back...
[08:37] <Ace_NoOne> thx Kiw
[08:37] <Ace_NoOne> thx kiwinz_sucks*
[08:37] <kiwinz_sucks> yep
[08:37] <GOATSLAYER> arrenlex: is that sudo apt-get install subversion?
[08:37] <arrenlex> GOATSLAYER: Yep.
[08:37] <adorablepuppy> Hmm.  .  . One thing I'm wondering about. Is there any way to reinstall (or verify) a package that has already been installed? An issue came up the other day in which I accidentally deleted a file, I knew what file it was, but still could do nothing about it.
[08:37] <feli> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[08:38] <jasin> adorable, yes synaptics
[08:38] <arrenlex> adorablepuppy: apt-get install --reinstall package :)
[08:38] <Bhaskar> how can i merge two po files into single one
[08:38] <adorablepuppy> :D Fantastic!
[08:38] <Jordan_U> !hi | feli
[08:38] <ubotu> feli: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:38] <L0cKd0wN> what if i tried like XGL, would that render my desktop differently, perhaps hiding the resolution problem?
[08:38] <kiwinz_sucks> nope
[08:38] <L0cKd0wN> i saw the words compiz, xgl thrown around
[08:38] <Jordan_U> L0cKd0wN: no
[08:38] <Kr0ntab> adorablepuppy, just to add to the answers you got, apt-file is a great package to use as well....
[08:38] <macd> any reason   kernel-patch-grsecurity2 isnt a package anymore?
[08:38] <L0cKd0wN> shucks!
[08:39] <kiwinz_sucks> lockdown, what's your monitor model?
[08:39] <Kr0ntab> apt-file allows you to look for packages that certain files belong to
[08:39] <L0cKd0wN> well i suppose i could put up with it....
[08:39] <L0cKd0wN> lol one sec, lemme look
[08:39] <L0cKd0wN> model 6920
[08:39] <jasin> adorable, you can also use  aptitude
[08:39] <jasin> to check installed packages, not installed, etc..
[08:39] <riotkittie> ugh. all of a sudden, gnome wont fully load
[08:39] <Jordan_U> !fixres | L0cKd0wN, sorry if you have already been given this link, but
[08:39] <ubotu> L0cKd0wN, sorry if you have already been given this link, but: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:39] <kiwinz_sucks> that's all of it?  like, no letters or anything?
[08:39] <adorablepuppy> Kr0ntab: I suppose that may come in handy. :)
[08:40] <jasin> adorable, sudo aptitude
[08:40] <L0cKd0wN> theres letters
[08:40] <L0cKd0wN> 6920-AB1
[08:40] <L0cKd0wN> L192 widescreen
[08:40] <kiwinz_sucks> if you want to try the hard way, i have posted a tutorial on my site: http://othello.alma.edu/~07tmhopk/ubuntuhowto.html#resolution
[08:40] <Jordan_U> !fixres | L0cKd0wN, sorry if you have already been given this link, but
[08:40] <ubotu> L0cKd0wN, sorry if you have already been given this link, but: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:41] <jasin> lockdown, still having resolution problems?
[08:41] <burepe> can someone tell me if this brings them to a directory? www.ekoshi.net
[08:41] <L0cKd0wN> of course :)
[08:41] <rdv> hello
[08:41] <jasin> lockdown, dont suprise me
[08:41] <CyberCod> hammad still there?
[08:41] <Jordan_U> burepe: Yup :)
[08:41] <h3xis> burepe, yes. it's /
[08:41] <burepe> what is in it?
[08:41] <rdv> where does Ubuntu keep its record of installed packages?
[08:41] <A[D] minS> !suspend
[08:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suspend - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <hammad> yup
[08:42] <hammad> im still here
[08:42] <arrenlex> rdv: dpkg -l
[08:42] <Kr0ntab> btw folks, I asked in here yesterday if anyone had luck getting a Dell wireless 5700 miniPCI EVDO card to work under Linux.  I got it working... same as all the others.  usbserial module and pppd.
[08:42] <n2diy> rdv: use "locate *.deb"
[08:42] <hammad> I did lspci this is whats in there only thing i can c related to audio if it helps
[08:42] <L0cKd0wN> Jordan_U, ok checking it out
[08:42] <Kr0ntab> just for the chat logs, and if anyone carres.  hehe.
[08:42] <kiwinz_sucks> lockdown, i found a link to the specs i think
[08:42] <kiwinz_sucks> hold on
[08:42] <Jordan_U> [DIR]  ekoshi/                 07-Jan-2007 12:43    -
[08:42] <Jordan_U> [DIR]  phpmyadmin/             29-Sep-2006 00:12    -
[08:42] <Jordan_U> [   ]  test.php
[08:42] <L0cKd0wN> http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=lenovo&lndocid=MIGR-65757
[08:42] <L0cKd0wN> yea found it too :)
[08:42] <burepe> Jordan_U: thanks h3xis
[08:42] <CyberCod> hammad     Click System> Preferences> Sound
[08:43] <Ace_NoOne> hmm... when executing the wireless assistant, I get an error "file '/etc/resolv.conf' could not be opened for writing"
[08:43] <kiwinz_sucks> AH
[08:43] <hammad> Intel Corporaration 82081G (ICH7 Family)  High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[08:43] <kiwinz_sucks> think i found it
[08:43] <kiwinz_sucks> should be easy
[08:43] <hammad> k im there
[08:43] <h3xis> haha hammad i have that same chipset
[08:43] <riotkittie> is there some way to kill gnome and make it forget what was running ?
[08:43] <CyberCod> hammad at the bottom... whats the default sound card
[08:43] <hammad> do you get sound ?
[08:43] <CyberCod> and are there other options
[08:43] <h3xis> hammad, yes
[08:43] <Bhaskar> svg:how can i merge two po files into single one
[08:43] <hammad> HDA Intel
[08:44] <hammad> is at the bottom
[08:44] <Bhaskar> h3xix:how can i merge two po files into single one
[08:44] <rdv> arrenlex, n2diy: i found some files but i remember seeing a list of installed packages by date
[08:44] <CyberCod> hammad is there another option?
[08:44] <sac> hi, what is the minimum recommended space required for /boot?
[08:44] <hammad> nope
[08:44] <hammad> nothing drops down
[08:44] <hammad> just highlights it again
[08:44] <kiwinz_sucks> lockdown, make a backup of your current xorg.conf, so when you paste this new one in, you can revert back if i mess it up
[08:44] <n2diy> rdv:  roger that.
[08:44] <jasin> lockdown, you been in here for over a half hour now and they still haven't got your problem fixed.
[08:45] <L0cKd0wN> jasin, more like 1.5 hours
[08:45] <L0cKd0wN> but im patient cuz im grateful for help
[08:45] <L0cKd0wN> :D
[08:45] <jasin> lockdown, thats sad.
[08:45] <CyberCod> hammad     and if you click the system sounds  play buttons there you get nothing?
[08:45] <n2diy> riotkittie: ctrl+alt+backspace, but will kill every thing running in X.
[08:45] <L0cKd0wN> kiwinz_sucks, roger
[08:45] <rdv> n2diy: that information is in one of the .deb files?
[08:45] <hammad> Play System Sounds? I don't understand what you mean.. It's already checked...
[08:45] <kiwinz_sucks> here's the new one you should try: http://rafb.net/p/gVm0Ia80.nln.html
[08:46] <riotkittie> n2diy, that was the first thing i tried. didnt solve my problem ;/
[08:46] <CyberCod> jasin, i feel so pitiful rising to your bait, but the only thing really sad that I can see here is the vibe you're putting off
[08:46] <hammad> Oh i see what you mean cyber
[08:46] <rdv> n2diy: i once found information telling me exactly when i installed certain packages
[08:46] <n2diy> rdv: no you should find a directory named archives, with all teh *.debs in it.
[08:46] <sac> is 100MB for /boot enough or more? how much space is normally recommended?
[08:46] <hammad> Sound not set for this event
[08:46] <hammad> thats what it says.
[08:46] <CyberCod> hammad ok... set one
[08:46] <hammad> ya nothing
[08:46] <hammad> i dont hear anything
[08:46] <Jordan_U> L0cKd0wN: Well, I havn't been paying attention to what advice you have and havn't been given so I'll try from the top, what kind of card do you have and are you sure you have the correct drivers?
[08:47] <L0cKd0wN> sac: i gave mine 100mb
[08:47] <hammad> tried changing it around n what not
[08:47] <n2diy> riotkittie: sudo init 2?
[08:47] <hammad> i dont hear anything
[08:47] <CyberCod> Hmmm...
[08:47] <L0cKd0wN> i have an onboard nvidia card (chipset 6100)
[08:47] <riotkittie> n2diy, didnt help either
[08:47] <L0cKd0wN> i followed initial instructions as per the directions on ubuntu's support site
[08:47] <kiwinz_sucks> lockdown, if i have the right monitor specs, that xorg.conf file WILL work
[08:47] <kiwinz_sucks> http://rafb.net/p/gVm0Ia80.nln.html
[08:47] <rdv> n2diy: i found that directory yes
[08:47] <n2diy> riotkittie: WTF? What are you trying to do again?
[08:47] <L0cKd0wN> ok
[08:48] <L0cKd0wN> restarting
[08:48] <L0cKd0wN> brb!
[08:48] <n2diy> rdv: are you running X?
[08:48] <rdv> yes
[08:48] <CyberCod> Hammad... i'm sorry... you'll need to look for more experienced help.  I'm just fielding the easier ones tonite
[08:48] <burepe> In my hosts file do I put my internal or external ip address?
[08:49] <Harold> i know this is a dumb question, but at the Ubuntu login I hit Control + Alt + Backspace and now I'm in a terminal, how do I go back into the GUI?
[08:49] <kiwinz_sucks> and the answer is...?
[08:49] <hammad> sure np
[08:49] <jasin> cybercod, i could careless what you think of me
[08:49] <hammad> can anyone help me i dont understand why i cant hear anything from my speakers.
[08:49] <L0cKd0wN> looks same
[08:49] <L0cKd0wN> and no mouse again
[08:49] <L0cKd0wN> :*(
[08:49] <kiwinz_sucks> ARGH
[08:49] <L0cKd0wN> i know!
[08:49] <L0cKd0wN> but i got the backup heh
[08:49] <burepe>  Control + Alt + f7 I think
[08:49] <n2diy> rdv: ok, take a note of where that archive/*.deb directory is, and then open nautilus from a terminal, with gksudo nautilus.
[08:49] <h3xis> hammad, have you checked volume control
[08:50] <hammad> yes
[08:50] <hammad> it says
[08:50] <CyberCod> jasin, i'm glad you could care less  thats just beautiful.  i could care less that you care less.  Its just the kind of person you are.
[08:50] <hammad> HDA intel Alsa Control
[08:50] <riotkittie> n2diy, im trying to get gnome to fully load. ;p  right now, i've got panels with nothing on them , and no desktop
[08:50] <hammad> Alsa Mixer
[08:50] <h3xis> hammad, through alsamixer?
[08:50] <h3xis> ah
[08:50] <hammad> HDA Intel (Alsa mixer)
[08:50] <hammad> thats what i says
[08:50] <jasin> cybercod, good for you.
[08:50] <hammad> it says PCM
[08:50] <hammad> its full
[08:50] <hammad> its not muted
[08:50] <jasin> cybercod, you done ?
[08:50] <rdv> n2diy: i think there's an easier way.  some log file told me what i installed and when.  i can't find it now though...
[08:50] <n2diy> riotkittie: do your drop down menus work?
[08:50] <riotkittie> n2diy, no
[08:51] <h3xis> hammad, i have the same chipset as you, however i am not using ubuntu and i am using a different kernel so i'm not sure what could be wrong :/
[08:51] <h3xis> hammad, and i do have sound
[08:51] <CyberCod> jasin... as soon as i figure out the ignore functions I am
[08:51] <n2diy> rdv:  cool, go for it.
[08:51] <riotkittie> drop down menus arent showing on the panels
[08:51] <hammad> sucks
[08:51] <hammad> i dont understand either
[08:51] <jasin> cybercod, bye jerk
[08:51] <hammad> I get sound on MEPIS
[08:51] <n2diy> riotkittie: yuck, can you get to a terminal?
[08:51] <Jordan_U> hammad: Does this command make any sound? cat /dev/urandom | /dev/dsp
[08:51] <hammad> I can't get my printer or sound to work on Ubuntu
[08:51] <CyberCod> oh.   i'm the jerk.
[08:51] <rdv> n2diy: found it.  it was just archived by logrotate
[08:51] <CyberCod> sure
[08:51] <kiwinz_sucks> cybercod, ignore that troll
[08:51] <arrenlex> CyberCod: Yay! Apparently I'm a jerk too! We can start a club. With jackets.
[08:51] <riotkittie> n2diy, yeah, i have tilda running
[08:51] <CyberCod> can I design the logo?
[08:52] <n2diy> rdv: ?
[08:52] <hammad> jordan how did you make that line?
[08:52] <arrenlex> CyberCod: It will have to say "do not feed the trolls!" on the back, but you can design the image.
[08:52] <hammad> after random
[08:52] <lilly> wats trolls
[08:52] <n2diy> riotkittie: hmm, a tilda ehh, what happen when you press enter twice?
[08:52] <CyberCod> I just don't understand his bad attitude... it seems like he knows stuff... yet he's such a jackhole about it
[08:53] <Jordan_U> hammad: Shift+bckslash or you can just copy and past the command from my comment
[08:53] <arrenlex> lilly: Annoying people with bad attitude which hang around insulting everyone and putting everyone into a bad mood.
[08:53] <rdv> n2diy: /var/log/dpkg.log ... the empty file there fooled me.  i had to look at the .gz'd archives
[08:53] <Ace_NoOne> kiwinz_sucks: I've followed your descriptions there, but ... well, it seems that there is no such folder as "$HOME/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/", so the "Open as Root" script there is not executed ever (or whatever is supposed to happen with it)
[08:53] <jasin> they attack me and say i'm the one with the bad attitude?
[08:53] <jasin> lol
[08:54] <kiwinz_sucks> Ace--are you using gnome or kde?
[08:54] <hammad> lol shift backspace won't work
[08:54] <n2diy> rdv:  your looking for *.deb files remember? Where are they?
[08:54] <Ace_NoOne> kiwinz_sucks: gnome at this moment
[08:54] <hammad> and apparently ctrl+v doesn't work
[08:54] <riotkittie> ugh.now i cant resize xchat to get back to tilda. no term for me
[08:54] <n2diy> riotkittie: ?
[08:54] <threeonefour> how to kill a process in terminal
[08:54] <Jordan_U> hammad: Sry, I meant shift + backslash :)
[08:54] <arrenlex> threeonefour: killall <name> or kill <pid>
[08:54] <L0cKd0wN> kiwinz_sucks, could you link me to ur xorg.conf that you edited for me most recently again plz? :)
[08:54] <kiwinz_sucks> ctrl+z, threeonefour
[08:55] <kiwinz_sucks> actually, i fixed ONE MORE thing in it
[08:55] <arrenlex> kiwinz_sucks: That backgroudns a process.
[08:55] <arrenlex> backgrounds *
[08:55] <L0cKd0wN> oh really? :)
[08:55] <CyberCod> snide comments = bad attitude     condescending crap = bad attitude     only hanging around so you can show up someone else instead of helping people = bad attitude.... jerk
[08:55] <hammad> cat /dev/urandom | /dev/dsp?
[08:55] <arrenlex> CyberCod: No more feeding the trolls, please.
[08:55] <jasin> lol
[08:55] <rdv> n2diy: i found the deb files, but i wasn't looking for them, i was looking for a log
[08:55] <hammad> it says Permission denied.
[08:55] <L0cKd0wN> sry, i got up to get ice, need another drink to focus
[08:55] <L0cKd0wN> hehe
[08:55] <riotkittie> enter twice does nothing
[08:55] <hammad> ./dev/dsp permission denied
[08:55] <Ace_NoOne> kiwinz_sucks: also, it also gives me some kinda device error(s) when using the "gedit $HOME/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/Open\ as\ root" command
[08:55] <threeonefour> arrenlex, thx
[08:55] <hammad> before it its bash:
[08:56] <n2diy> rdv:  I thought you wanted to purge your packages?
[08:56] <CyberCod> ok ok... no more feeding the trolls... its not his fault if his mama didn't hug him enough
[08:56] <hammad> bash: /dev/dsp Permission denied.
[08:57] <jasin> lockdown, I can fix your resolution but youd otn want my help.
[08:57] <jasin> lockdown, I can fix your resolution but you dont want my help.
[08:57] <kiwinz_sucks> http://rafb.net/p/zvaXx963.txt
[08:57] <L0cKd0wN> lol
[08:57] <Jordan_U> !ops | jasin is a troll
[08:57] <ubotu> jasin is a troll: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[08:57] <L0cKd0wN> im open to suggestions, thats why im here
[08:57] <kiwinz_sucks> you can try that new file, lockdown...i had a value entered wrong
[08:58] <n2diy> jasin, it is appearing to me that the want something, and when they learn how to do it, they don't want it anymore!?
[08:58] <kalikiana> Is there a way to do "ps -lA" and sort its output?
[08:58] <n2diy> the/they
[08:59] <L0cKd0wN> k
[08:59] <kiwinz_sucks> Ace, i have no idea why it's doig that to you...it works for me all the time
[08:59] <kiwinz_sucks> are you copy/pasting the commands directly?
[08:59] <riotkittie> oh well. i will try to figure this out in the a.m.   good nite all!
[08:59] <CyberCod> gnite riotkittie
[08:59] <jasin> lockdown, your problem is actually very simple to fix.
[09:00] <prince> hi
[09:00] <n2diy> riotkitties, gn, 73
[09:00] <prince> im new to ubuntu
[09:00] <kiwinz_sucks> hi prince
[09:00] <Harold> can someone help me get back into gnome
[09:00] <Ace_NoOne> kiwinz_sucks: well, I guess I'll hzst start from scratch again sometime next week
[09:00] <Ace_NoOne> thx for now
[09:00] <igcek> hwllo, which is THE BEST linux driver page on the web?
[09:00] <prince> and im having trouble with my wireless usb...
[09:00] <CyberCod> harold... are you in the black/white terminal?
[09:00] <kiwinz_sucks> sorry about that
[09:01] <Balsamic_Chicken> what does !  ops | jasin is a troll mean, is the "is a troll" part of the command?
[09:01] <Harold> yes i am cybercod
[09:01] <CyberCod> harold  try    startx
[09:01] <Harold> tried
[09:01] <leviathan> a server of jabber recomended?
[09:01] <elkbuntu> Balsamic_Chicken, it's telling us what the !ops call was for, tis all
[09:01] <Harold> didnt work
[09:01] <CyberCod> give you errors saying that it tried several times?
[09:01] <jasin> balsamic, insulting people is very immature
[09:01] <imbecile> hey guys im setting up TOR and privoxy and im stuck on one part im sure someone could easily explain the question i have is line #11   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/720/
[09:01] <Balsamic_Chicken> elkbuntu what does troll mean tho
[09:01] <Harold> yeah
[09:01] <kiwinz_sucks> Harold, try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[09:02] <arrenlex> Balsamic_Chicken: Everything after the pipe (|) is what ubotu considers the "addressee" of the message. They put it in there to tell the ops what the problem was.
[09:02] <Balsamic_Chicken> jasin i'm not insulting anyone, i was asking about a command that was all, still learning my way around konversation
[09:02] <Jordan_U> Balsamic_Chicken: No, I added the "is a troll" part, it is just a way of alerting the channel operators that they need to do something, in this case kick somebody
[09:02] <arrenlex> Balsamic_Chicken: Annoying people with bad attitude which hang around insulting everyone and putting everyone into a bad mood.
[09:02] <jasin> balsamic, that snot a command thats an insult.
[09:02] <Balsamic_Chicken> o cool
[09:02] <jasin> balsamic, thats not a command thats an insult.
[09:02] <elkbuntu> Balsamic_Chicken, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
[09:02] <Balsamic_Chicken> cool thx everyone for the info, just wanted to know
[09:02] <Harold> i get *Starting GNOME Display Manager...
[09:02] <Harold> but it stays in the terminal
[09:02] <Balsamic_Chicken> elkbuntu thx
[09:03] <L0cKd0wN> ok here we go again
[09:03] <L0cKd0wN> brb :)
[09:03] <kiwinz_sucks> well then something's wrong with gnome
[09:03] <CyberCod> harold.. what was last thing you did in gnome?
[09:03] <kiwinz_sucks> have you changed any settings or installed anything?
[09:03] <Harold> hit Control + Alt + Backspace at the login screen
[09:03] <CyberCod> have you rebooted?
[09:03] <Harold> yes several times
[09:04] <CyberCod> harold... just on the off chance.... try Ctrl+Alt+F7
[09:04] <Harold> nothing
[09:04] <jasin> I got better things to do then to sit in here an be insulted.
[09:04] <jasin> I pray you all grow up one day
[09:04] <arrenlex> jasin: I'm glad to hear it! :D Bye
[09:04] <Jordan_U> YAY!!!
[09:04] <CyberCod> yay!!!
[09:05] <prince> could anyone please help me, i'm having trouble connecting to the net using the wireless usb adapter...
[09:05] <elkbuntu> Jordan_U, CyberCod as much as i am sure you're pleased, it's not good behaviour to cheer a troll off
[09:05] <prince> tried looking up the net but couldn't find anything i could understand...
[09:05] <igcek> the best page for linux drivers?
[09:06] <CyberCod> true... sorry... he was just really getting to me... so many helpful people and here he is just being snide and condescending without helping anyone
[09:06] <imbecile> hey guys im setting up TOR and privoxy and im stuck on one part im sure someone could easily explain the question i have is what line #11 means  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/720/
[09:06] <kiwinz_sucks> prince, someone was on here earlier who just got his/her usb wireless to work...i don't know who, but they might be able to help if you can find them
[09:06] <CyberCod> prince.. what brand is it?
[09:06] <n2diy> imbecile: were is your internet connection? The only thing listed is 127.0.01, and that is your box!?
[09:07] <prince> its aztech wl630usb
[09:07] <CyberCod> prince.  have you tried ndiswrapper?
[09:07] <n2diy> 127.0.0.1
[09:07] <imbecile> n2diy,  that was a c/p from a tutorial
[09:07] <prince> cybercod, i looked that up but i don't understand how to do it
[09:08] <CyberCod> well, ok... you're gonna have to be open to learning a bit... but most likely it will work
[09:08] <Jordan_U> imbecile: I have never used tsocks but I belive that what that means is that if you want to run a command like FF with tor, you would type: tsocks firefox
[09:08] <n2diy> imbecile: ok, I don't know how to troubleshoot tutorials. Care to give a live example?
[09:09] <CyberCod> prince, open up synaptic package manager
[09:09] <imbecile> n2diy,  the only question i have is what to do with line 11 in the pastebin i have all else configured
[09:10] <prince> cybercod, i've been to ndiswrapper on sourceforge. but i can't find the model there. i read that most of the adapters will work on netgear drivers
[09:10] <imbecile> Jordan_U,  thanks, is there any way to have it automatically run when opening firefox?
[09:11] <gnomefreak> prince: packages.ubuntu.com has it so does the install cd
[09:11] <n2diy> imbecile: Sorry I don't know, but i don't _think_ you should be talking though 127.0.0.1?
[09:11] <CyberCod> ndiswrapper uses your windows drivers... it acts as a translator between linux and the windows drivers.
[09:11] <kiwinz_sucks> n2diy, i think that's how TOR plays...he doesn't connect to a real server
[09:12] <L0cKd0wN> alright something worked with that config
[09:12] <CyberCod> so you need to make sure you have the windows drivers handy
[09:12] <L0cKd0wN> think it looks improved
[09:12] <kiwinz_sucks> it's working?
[09:12] <Jordan_U> imbecile: Sort of, You can set it up so that when you choose FF from the Applications menu it will automatically do that, which is what I think you want
[09:12] <L0cKd0wN> :)
[09:12] <NoEvidenZ> imbecile: Oh man, the other day I got shitty and left when I saw someone call someone else an imbecile and tell him how to fix his problem. Now I know it was just you.
[09:12] <NoEvidenZ> YARR!
[09:12] <kiwinz_sucks> so, lockdown, here's the deal
[09:12] <n2diy> kiwinz_sucks: ok, I'm lost, so good luck to you guys.
[09:12] <prince> i've downloaded them onto a cd but i don't know how to install them since they have install wizards.
[09:13] <kiwinz_sucks> you need to write down your vert and horiz rates in that config file and keep them safe
[09:13] <imbecile> NoEvidenZ,  i just started trying this tonight..hehehe maybe it was someone else
[09:13] <NoEvidenZ> imbecile: In that case, I'm shitty again. *pouts*
[09:13] <L0cKd0wN> ok
[09:13] <kiwinz_sucks> whenever you reinstall ubuntu or whatever, just put those values in place of whatever is in the config file, add your resolution, and then restart
[09:13] <CyberCod> you could look for them at driverguide.com
[09:13] <NoEvidenZ> What card?
[09:14] <imbecile> hehe
[09:14] <L0cKd0wN> is there a way to anti alias or smooth fonts? or do i need to now install XGL for that?
[09:14] <n2diy> kiwinz_sucks: and stay on the LOW side of the H. sync rate.
[09:14] <kiwinz_sucks> no, you don't need XGL
[09:14] <n2diy> kiwinz_sucks: I meant V. sync rate.
[09:14] <arrenlex> L0cKd0wN: That's in your gnome settings.
[09:15] <kiwinz_sucks> it's in system > preferences > font
[09:15] <CyberCod> be back in a minute... going to make a cup of tea
[09:15] <kiwinz_sucks> yeah, i've had issues before when i messed upt he refresh rates
[09:16] <Jordan_U> L0cKd0wN: XGL won't do anything regular xorg can't do unless you have certain ATI cards, and even then all it will help you do is run compiz / beryl
[09:16] <n2diy> kiwinz_sucks: yep, drive the V. sync rate to hard/fast, and poof, you'll let the magic smoke out of something.
[09:16] <kiwinz_sucks> probably best settings are: Best Shape , Grayscale, Medium, and RGB
[09:17] <L0cKd0wN> ok well special thanks to kiwinz_sucks for sticking it through with me
[09:17] <L0cKd0wN> this is as good as its looked tonight so far, it's readable :)
[09:17] <kiwinz_sucks> i only know what to do because i've been through way too many lousy tutorials
[09:18] <kiwinz_sucks> ubuntuforums.org sucks for getting help--too much confusion
[09:18] <prince> gnomefreak : i've downloaded ndiswrapper from the site u gave me, i will be burning them to a cd and installing from the cd. should i use the add/remove applications or the synaptic package manager?
[09:19] <n2diy> kiwinz_sucks: spend an afternoon googling monitor repair, it is enlightening.
[09:19] <L0cKd0wN> i find that the support site is for an ideal scenario where everything is supposed to work, i wish i lived in that magical land where a migration to a new OS was smooth lol
[09:19] <kiwinz_sucks> yeah, i agree.  i can tell you, though, after finally taking the "linux dive," i find it WAY easier to maintain than windows
[09:20] <kiwinz_sucks> you figure stuff out once, and the rest is easy
[09:20] <n2diy> kiwinz_sucks: and that is why you hang out here, no/
[09:20] <n2diy> no?
[09:20] <L0cKd0wN> yea im not completely dumb in this stuff, i've played with fedora for 1.5 years so i have reasonable experience doing basic things in the tty
[09:20] <kiwinz_sucks> sure
[09:21] <Jordan_U> L0cKd0wN: For future reference, it is a much smoother transition if you buy hardware that is known to be linux compatible
[09:21] <kiwinz_sucks> there are some pretty awesome linux pre-builts out there...problem is they don't get the same hardware deals as Dell and the others, so they're a bit more expensive than you'd think
[09:22] <L0cKd0wN> yea, couldn't pass up a Black Friday special in Office Depot at 4am tho
[09:22] <Jordan_U> L0cKd0wN: And the next version of Ubuntu will come with Nvidia drivers installed to make that a non issue hopefully :)
[09:22] <n2diy> Jordan_U: yes, or trash pick it, old hardware work better then new, with linux
[09:22] <CyberCod> i thought ndiswrapper was in the repos???
[09:22] <L0cKd0wN> when's the next version of ubuntu due?
[09:22] <kiwinz_sucks> does anyone know if feisty is going to include restricted modules and nvidia?  i want my wireless back  :(
[09:22] <arrenlex> !feisty | L0cKd0wN
[09:22] <prince> CyberCod: whats repos?
[09:22] <ubotu> L0cKd0wN: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[09:22] <kiwinz_sucks> April
[09:22] <L0cKd0wN> cute bot
[09:22] <L0cKd0wN> heh
[09:22] <arrenlex> Ubotu is God.
[09:22] <Jordan_U> L0cKd0wN: I know what you mean, I use a macbook pro only because I got it for free :)
[09:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is God. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:23] <arrenlex> xD
[09:23] <L0cKd0wN> lol
[09:23] <n2diy> arrenlex: nooo, he broke down this afternoon.
[09:23] <kiwinz_sucks> ubotu is far from God
[09:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is far from God - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:23] <arrenlex> n2diy: What?! Impossible!
[09:23] <n2diy> arrenlex: nooo, he was down, for an hour.
[09:23] <kiwinz_sucks> did you get your fonts working lockdown
[09:24] <toulouse> !love
[09:24] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[09:24] <Pie-rate> I wish wine was better
[09:24] <CyberCod> prince... the ubuntu repositories used with apt-get and synaptic
[09:24] <toulouse> Pie-rate: me too
[09:24] <toulouse> play games and such
[09:25] <n2diy> Pie_rate: me too, that is why I drink beer.
[09:25] <toulouse> lol
[09:25] <prince> CyberCod: oh ok.
[09:25] <Jordan_U> lol
[09:25] <L0cKd0wN> kiwinz_sucks, yea still getting used to the way everything is rendered, i still have the feeling its a few pixels narrow, but definitely acceptable
[09:25] <CyberCod> prince... yes they are... ndiswrapper-utils and ndisgtk
[09:25] <kiwinz_sucks> i used to hate the way ubuntu did fonts
[09:25] <kiwinz_sucks> then i booted back into Windows to play some CoD2 for a bit
[09:25] <kiwinz_sucks> and WOW
[09:25] <kiwinz_sucks> i can't believe those ever looked good to me
[09:26] <wyld> what is dual head mode?
[09:26] <harrisony> wyld: in what context
[09:26] <CyberCod> wyld two monitors..
[09:26] <Jordan_U> wyld: I believe it is when you have two monitors
[09:26] <arrenlex> wyld: MultiHead is a common name for using multiple monitors (heads) at the same time. This can be multiple heads on one videocard, multiple videocards in one computer or even 'distributed' multihead covering multiple computers. Also known as DualHead when there are exactly two heads.
[09:26] <n2diy> wyld: two monitor, and one box?
[09:26] <harrisony> the tribe has spoken
[09:26] <wyld> graphics cards: dual head mode: activated
[09:27] <NoEvidenZ> How do I tell what version my shell is?
[09:27] <prince> CyberCod: so now i've downloaded ndiswrapper and the windows driver of the adapter. i will have to burn onto a disc to install it. should i use the add remove applications or the synaptic package manager?
[09:27] <n2diy> monitor/monitors
[09:27] <CyberCod> synaptic
[09:27] <arrenlex> NoEvidenZ: sh --version
[09:27] <kiwinz_sucks> help > about
[09:27] <wyld> wow, thanks you all
[09:27] <CyberCod> get both ndiswrapper-utils and ndisgtk
[09:27] <NoEvidenZ> arrenlex: Ah yeah.
[09:27] <CyberCod> prince... does the windows driver include an .inf file?
[09:27] <kiwinz_sucks> i'd actually suggest ndiswrapper-utils-1.8
[09:27] <kiwinz_sucks> tends to work better
[09:27] <Flannel> So, I just installed (dapper) using LVM, /boot is not on LVM, / and /etc are their own logical volumes, on first boot I get "INIT: no inittab file found" and am then asked which runlevel I'd like.  How do I fix this?
[09:28] <Jordan_U> arrenlex: Will that work with feisty not using bash for sh?
[09:28] <arrenlex> Jordan_U: ...nope. My apologies. I'm not running ubuntu. Doesn't work for dash.
[09:28] <LucianSolaris> ug, how do i remove bcm43xx module and get ndiswrapper to autoload?
[09:28] <prince> CyberCod : yes it has an .inf file
[09:28] <Flannel> Jordan_U, change the first line to bash instead of sh
[09:28] <NoEvidenZ> Is there a way to change the size of my TTY?
[09:28] <LucianSolaris> anyone?
[09:28] <CyberCod> kiwinz_sucks   ndiswrapper-utils in repos is 1.8
[09:28] <n2diy> Flannel: I don't know but does run level 5 work?
[09:28] <Jordan_U> arrenlex: Out of curiosity, debian?
[09:29] <arrenlex> Jordan_U: Yep.
[09:29] <kiwinz_sucks> didn't know that, it didn't used to be
[09:29] <LucianSolaris> 
[09:29] <CyberCod> they get updated all the time
[09:29] <L0cKd0wN> yea fonts look clean, just unusual to a newcomer
[09:29] <rizenine> How do I change IRQ's? I have ndiswrapper saying it's using irq 177 and acpi is saying it's using 177 as well. Then all of a sudden the kernel sends a message that it disabled irq 177.
[09:29] <LucianSolaris> ANYONE: how do I remove the module: bcm43xx and autoload ndiswrapper as a module?
[09:29] <L0cKd0wN> i should be grateful that nothing is actually seriously wrong with the installation :)
[09:29] <jimbob> can anyone help. USB mouse stops working after a few min on laptop. Touchpad still works
[09:29] <kiwinz_sucks> indeed
[09:29] <CyberCod> i tend to do things the hard way only when there is no other option
[09:30] <kiwinz_sucks> i'm going to make an image of this install while i sleep
[09:30] <kiwinz_sucks> that way i don't have to worry about messing stuff up
[09:30] <L0cKd0wN> jesus
[09:30] <L0cKd0wN> its 3:30 am
[09:30] <L0cKd0wN> where does the time go? :\
[09:30] <LucianSolaris> can anyone help me?
[09:30] <arrenlex> L0cKd0wN: It's a conspiracy. The Government is stealing your time.
[09:30] <Jordan_U> LucianSolaris: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29
[09:30] <kiwinz_sucks> sorry it took so long, lockdown
[09:31] <L0cKd0wN> heh hardly your fault
[09:31] <L0cKd0wN> im sure it'll grow on me
[09:31] <L0cKd0wN> :)
[09:31] <L0cKd0wN> i hope nvidia stuff becomes more automated as development continues
[09:31] <jimbob> * can anyone help. USB mouse stops working after a few min on laptop. Touchpad still works *
[09:31] <wyld> did you check the cable?
[09:31] <rizenine> LucianSolaris put it in the black list.
[09:31] <n2diy> LOckdOwN: thanks for the reminder, same here. Time is relative, it doesn't go anywhere.
[09:31] <jimbob> yes
[09:31] <Flannel> n2diy, no.  no matter hat I pick I get "no more jobs at this runlevel"
[09:31] <jimbob> it seems to be a common problem
[09:31] <L0cKd0wN> lol
[09:31] <CyberCod> there's a nice script for installing proprietary nvidia drivers called envy... thats about as automated as you can get
[09:32] <n2diy> Flannel: startx?
[09:32] <iratsu_> what's a good way to benchmark internet uplink?
[09:32] <metres> Hi all
[09:32] <prince> thanx CyberCod gnomefreak n kiwinz_sucks... i'm gonna try installing the drivers...
[09:32] <kiwinz_sucks> cool
[09:32] <perky_> g'day, my usb drive doesn't automount, and I get a "failed to initialize HAL!" error every time i boot.. any ideas?
[09:33] <CyberCod> prince... you know how?
[09:33] <perky_> edgy 64bit
[09:33] <n2diy> ! HAL
[09:33] <CyberCod> too late
[09:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about HAL - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:33] <Flannel> n2diy, linux hasn't booted yet.  So, startx wouldn't do any good, even if I had a GUI installed ;)
[09:33] <kiwinz_sucks> hah...64bit...that's why i don't use 64bit
[09:33] <perky_> :/
[09:33] <perky_> is it a common prob related to 64bit?
[09:33] <CyberCod> 64 bit does seem to be more trouble than it is worth
[09:33] <perky_> everything works except this.. i can manually mount..
[09:34] <arrenlex> perky_: The "hal" package is installed?
[09:34] <n2diy> Flannel: and still no run jobs available?
[09:34] <Pie-rate> man, rendering battle.net in firefox is a time consuming process, apparently.
[09:34] <arrenlex> perky_: And the "pmount" package?
[09:34] <kiwinz_sucks> perky, HAL is the usb hotplug
[09:34] <jimbob> who can help with with a usb mouse problem on a laptop?
[09:34] <Jordan_U> perky_: I don't see why being 64 bit would effect HAL
[09:34] <Flannel> n2diy: no matter which runlevel I choose, correct.
[09:34] <kiwinz_sucks> try adding it to mtab of fstab manually
[09:34] <perky_> arrenlex, both are installed
[09:34] <metres> I have an encoding problem... when I lock screen, the resulting login shows encoding error (my name is wrongly written)
[09:34] <Pie-rate> must be blizzard's habit of overusing flash and making ridiculous dhtml(or maybe even flash?) menus
[09:34] <n2diy> Flannel: did we try init 5
[09:35] <Jordan_U> jimbob: Ask your question and if anybody knows they will try to help
[09:35] <perky_> posted in ubuntuforums.. hopefully someone will eventually respond :)
[09:35] <kiwinz_sucks> metres, how does it show up in System > Administration > Users ?
[09:35] <metres> right
[09:36] <Flannel> n2diy, I already told you.  Regardless of what runlevel I chose.
[09:36] <metres> I mean correct
[09:36] <kiwinz_sucks> that's weird
[09:36] <n2diy> Flannel: ok, I'm old and forgetful, just double checking. :)
[09:37] <CyberCod> its never a good thing when the linux guru says "thats weird" lol
[09:37] <kiwinz_sucks> metres, can you edit your properties in the Users dialog
[09:37] <kiwinz_sucks> see if it's wrong in one of those places?
[09:37] <n2diy> CyberCod: noo, that is when you have them hooked!
[09:38] <Flannel> n2diy, I booted the liveCD, and /etc all looks sane, fstab looks good (although, I'm not sure what a 'good' LVM fstab looks like), inittab is there, as are runlevels.  It's just as if it's not mounting /etc or something.
[09:38] <jimbob> my mouse stops responding after a few min. when this happens all usb devices when pluggin in stop working. the only way to get working is restart the pc. but the touchpad still works without a problem
[09:38] <CyberCod> n2diy good point
[09:38] <kiwinz_sucks> jimbob, does another USB port work?
[09:38] <jimbob> nope.
[09:39] <metres> kiwinz_sucks : when I tryed creating another user with an  it said wrong caracter in username... but mine is set correctly
[09:39] <n2diy> Flannel: I'm lost, I hate to say it but have you re-booted?
[09:39] <CyberCod> jimbob  is this during constant use or when pc is idle?
[09:39] <Flannel> n2diy, every time I enter a runlevel ;)  it stops accepting input
[09:39] <n2diy> CyberCod: :) Now reel them in!
[09:39] <kiwinz_sucks> you tried a "?" in the name?  that might be why
[09:39] <jimbob> constant use. it's sitting there atm working but as soon as i use it after about 30 sec it stops.
[09:40] <jimbob> but the touchpad still works
[09:40] <mainer> irq conflict?
[09:40] <n2diy> Flannel: yuck, a very bad sign.
[09:40] <kiwinz_sucks> perky_ i'd just try reinstalling HAL through synaptic
[09:41] <perky_> ok
[09:41] <n2diy> be right back
[09:41] <metres> kiwinz_sucks : not a "?"  an "e" with an accent : 
[09:41] <Flannel> n2diy, shrug.  It's a fresh install.  What did I install wrong?  /boot isn't on LVM, / and /etc are (on separate logical volumes), which... from what I've gathered is ... doable, google just can't tell me how.
[09:41] <StarScream> hey guys, got a dapper server...i'm trying to expose mysql to the outside world...i've allowed it via firewall and in my.cnf the bind-address is commented out...what other magic do i need to do to get ubuntu to allow me to expose mysql
[09:41] <jimbob> the mouse works without a problem in windows. only in ubuntu 6.10. when i used 6.06 it worked without a problem
[09:42] <StarScream> i've granted access
[09:42] <StarScream> to %
[09:42] <StarScream> for my db
[09:42] <metres> kiwinz_sucks : ? and  are at the same place on an us keyboard....
[09:42] <Pie-rate> whoopsie, good thing i keep my computer password protected and locked down... shred -u Firefox-wallpaper.png before my parents see the thumbnail :)
[09:42] <StarScream> but it says my ip isn't allows to access the db
[09:42] <kiwinz_sucks> metres, so then i take it that e is what's showing up wrong?
[09:42] <metres> yes
[09:43] <kiwinz_sucks> what language are you typing in
[09:43] <metres> french
[09:43] <metres> iso-8859-1
[09:43] <metres> keyboard layout: canadian multilingual
[09:44] <CyberCod> metres...perhaps a font setting for the screen lock is the culprit
[09:44] <CyberCod> if there is one
[09:44] <kiwinz_sucks> could be the font, yeah
[09:45] <Balsamic_Chicken> how do make my windows looking like the window vista windows, cuz right now, in beryl when i pick an vista theme, i get the transparent tab alright, but everything under it is normal white color, i like how vista has the line (right below the transparent tabs) that contains:file, edit, insert, etc, black, how could i do that
[09:45] <Pie-rate> meh. no one likes the french, just get a different keyboard.
[09:45] <kiwinz_sucks> i don't know when ubuntu starts to look at the fonts, though, so it could be that his language support is allowing him to type it in and see it in gnome, but then it's just not reading it during startup
[09:46] <kiwinz_sucks> balsamic, are you talking about a GNOME theme?
[09:46] <kiwinz_sucks> gnome-look.org, look under the metacity 2.x themes
[09:46] <CyberCod> metres.. this is during the screen lock?  at the login screen? or lockout on the screensaver?
[09:46] <metres> CyberCod : only on the login after a screen lock
[09:47] <CyberCod> but not during the initial login
[09:47] <RichW> I need a favour from you guys, if you are running beryl/compiz with a ati card, could you post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to http://pastebin.ca and give me the link?
[09:47] <metres> My name doesnt appear on the initial login...
[09:47] <CyberCod> ah yes... silly of me
[09:48] <CyberCod> you could try locking out with screensaver... just create a launcher to start the screensaver and put it in your panel.
[09:48] <RichW> bPlease??
[09:48] <CyberCod> metres does it keep you from logging back in?
[09:48] <kiwinz_sucks> richw, what problem are you having?
[09:49] <RichW> just trying to get my ati card working with compiz so i want to check my conf file with someone elses.
[09:49] <metres> richw :  http://pastebin.ca/309125
[09:50] <metres> CyberCod : what do you mean ?
[09:50] <RichW> metres: thanks.. il look at it.
[09:50] <kiwinz_sucks> Beryl > Compiz  :)
[09:50] <CyberCod> RichW... wanna know how I got my compiz working when I had an ati card??? I got an nvidia one :)
[09:50] <metres> CyberCod : I am able to log back
[09:50] <CyberCod> metres  so it is only cosmetic?
[09:50] <n2diy> Flannel:  I don't know what went wrong.
[09:51] <RichW> metres: beryl or compiz work fine with your box?
[09:51] <metres> CyberCod : yes but I also tried to sign with gpg and my name wasnt right there too
[09:51] <metres> RichW : beryl with free driver 8.28
[09:51] <RichW> CyberCod: I have a spare nvidia one but its not as powerful.. nvidia 6200
[09:52] <CyberCod> richw... thats much better than the card I'm using... 4200TI
[09:52] <RichW> CyberCod: I have ati 9800pro
[09:52] <RichW> CyberCod: 9800 pro beats the cheapo nvidia one easy ;)
[09:52] <CyberCod> You're welcome to send me the nvidia you're not using
[09:52] <CyberCod> :D
[09:53] <RichW> CyberCod: ATI drivers suck
[09:53] <CyberCod> agreed
[09:53] <kiwinz_sucks> i've not had one good experience with ati
[09:53] <CyberCod> but since they were bought out they may improve
[09:53] <kiwinz_sucks> countless video cards, two tv cards...
[09:53] <kiwinz_sucks> horrible company
[09:53] <CyberCod> just give it a little time
[09:53] <CyberCod> horrible company that is under new management
[09:53] <RichW> When i ran vista... it would not do 3D with my ati but the nvidia was fine... i have all sorts of problems with ati
[09:53] <n2diy> Who bought out ATI?
[09:53] <CyberCod> AMD
[09:53] <metres> RichW :  I had to install this version : http://linux.punkforjesus.com/beryl/beryl-0.1.4.tar.gz im on amd 64
[09:54] <elyon225> Anyone know how to correct a problem with the syncing of DVD audio with the video?
[09:54] <n2diy> Hmmm?
[09:54] <CyberCod> AMD bought them a couple months back
[09:54] <metres> RichW :  doesnt work with the latest beryl depot
[09:54] <kiwinz_sucks> elyon-- try using libdvdcss2 and vlc
[09:54] <CyberCod> if you look at their site now... its green
[09:54] <Aiminghigh> hi, i need to use a configure option in apt-get, how would i do this?
[09:54] <RichW> metres: thanks, I have a model - config file now :)
[09:55] <Aiminghigh> like i need to reinstall a program but only beacuse i need to change one configure option
[09:55] <RichW> metres: what ati card you running?
[09:55] <metres> x1600
[09:56] <CyberCod> aiminghigh... you may just be able to delete its folder in your home directory ... in a couple instances it has reset some programs to default for me
[09:56] <elyon225> kiwinz_sucks: Already have those installed.
[09:56] <CyberCod> look for .whatever in your home folder... cut and paste it to somewhere else so you don't lose it if it don't work
[09:57] <RichW> Anyone else running a ATI card with beryl or compiz?
[09:57] <kiwinz_sucks> elyon, is it with EVERY dvd?
[09:57] <kiwinz_sucks> you can change the audio sync in the preferences
[09:57] <kiwinz_sucks> it's a trial and error process, but it's not too tough, and it works
[09:57] <elyon225> kiwinz_sucks: Yes.
[09:59] <sjgruby> czesc
[09:59] <sjgruby> hello
[10:00] <LucianSolaris> ALL: hey, anyone with wifi (or experience),  what is the best, most functional, wifi scanner and manager program?
[10:01] <LucianSolaris> ALL: i need a recommendation (knetworkmanager don't detect my wifi (defaults to ethernet) and kwifimanager just plain sux)
[10:02] <LucianSolaris> damn, no one is up???!!
[10:02] <mainer> wifi-radar?
[10:02] <CyberCod> hello
[10:03] <LucianSolaris> wifi-radar?  i'll give it a go
[10:03] <CyberCod> prince... how is that going?
[10:03] <prince> hi cybercod
[10:03] <LucianSolaris> this is BOTH a scanner and manager?
[10:03] <mainer> afaik
[10:04] <prince> i've installed ndiswrapper and ndisgtk. but i don't know how to use them to install the windows driver
[10:04] <CyberCod> prince... you get your wireless workin?
[10:04] <CyberCod> ok... you got the drivers? not packed up?
[10:05] <prince> nope ive unzipped it.
[10:05] <CyberCod> good
[10:05] <CyberCod> you in ubuntu now?
[10:05] <prince> nope i'm in windows. i've only got one monitor so i have to unplug ang plug it into the other computer
[10:06] <CyberCod> ok... on ubuntu, click System>Administration>Windows Wireless Drivers
[10:07] <prince> CyberCod ok. from there?
[10:07] <CyberCod> then it will come up with a window... you'll click browse, and browse to where you've got the drivers saved... make sure not on a cd... copy them somewhere permanent...
[10:07] <prince> ok
[10:07] <CyberCod> you'll want to select file ending in .inf
[10:07] <prince> i went through the driver files. the only file with .inf is autorun.inf
[10:07] <prince> is that it?
[10:08] <CyberCod> if there is more than one, try them out until you get one that says Hardware Detected
[10:08] <CyberCod> once you got that, you should be able to go into System>Administration>Networking and see wlan0 there... that'll be your wireless
[10:08] <Flannel> So, I just installed (dapper) using LVM, /boot is not on LVM, / and /etc are their own logical volumes, init stuff and fstab both look normalish, on boot I get "INIT: no inittab file found" and am then asked which runlevel I'd like.  How do I fix this? or what's the problem?
[10:09] <CyberCod> it is actually "Hardware Present: Yes" or "Hardware Present: No"
[10:09] <prince> CyberCod oh ok.
[10:10] <CyberCod> come back let me know if it worked
[10:10] <prince> CyberCod: sure.
[10:10] <CyberCod> you'll need to configure the card in "Networking" to work with your router
[10:10] <prince> CyberCod: thanx again. brb.
[10:10] <CyberCod> kk
[10:13] <Pie-rate> is there a program that reads from stdin and writes to the gnome copy/paste buffer?
[10:15] <RichW> Pie-rate: sounds like something you could write up in python
[10:15] <RichW> or perl
[10:18] <jirwin> hey there
[10:18] <LucianSolaris> ALL: hey, how do I get knetworkmanager to show me my wireless (eth0 via ndiswrapper)?
[10:18] <jirwin> This may not be the place to ask this, but I will try.
[10:19] <jirwin> I just got my ati drivers working with dual head in edgy
[10:19] <jirwin> the only problem
[10:19] <jirwin> when I play a video or sound when I have dual heads enableed I get this error: [00000288]  alsa audio output error: write failed (Broken pipe)
[10:19] <jirwin> anyone have any ideas of what may be causing this?
[10:22] <metal03> Hi there
[10:22] <CyberCod> lucian, your wireless should be wlan0
[10:23] <CyberCod> jirwin... it didn't do that before?
[10:24] <RichW> CyberCod: it varies.. mines ra0 :P
[10:24] <LucianSolaris> it isn't
[10:24] <LucianSolaris> never has been
[10:24] <LucianSolaris> it's eth0
[10:24] <LucianSolaris> my realtek lan device is eth1
[10:25] <LucianSolaris> now, for some reason, knetworkmanager seems to overlook eth0 as an enabled device
[10:25] <LucianSolaris> how do i force knetworkmanager to see eth0 as a wireless network device (it's covered eth1 as a 'wired' device)
[10:25] <LucianSolaris> so i don't have to run some ugly ass gtk app
[10:26] <CyberCod> sorry... lucian... wish I could help
[10:26] <CyberCod> i know nothing about kde
[10:27] <LucianSolaris> ugh
[10:28] <alink1000> where can i find some codecs/firefox plugins to support mpeg files?
[10:28] <alink1000> :)
[10:28] <jirwin> CyberCod: no it didn't
[10:29] <shack_> alink1000: install software called automatix
[10:29] <Phuzion> I need to install TCL for Eggdrop, whats the easiest way to do so?
[10:29] <jirwin> CyberCod: and it goes away once I change my xorg.conf back
[10:29] <alink1000> Where can I find it at, shack_?
[10:29] <shack_> just a moment
[10:29] <alink1000> k
[10:30] <CyberCod> jirwin... compare the two xorg.conf files... make sure nothing is changed except for video related stuff
[10:30] <shack_> check system-administraion-synaptic package manager
[10:30] <shack_> and seach automatix/automatix2
[10:30] <jirwin> CyberCod: will do.
[10:30] <shack_> it should be there
[10:30] <Flannel> shack_, please don't recommed automatix.
[10:31] <shack_> why? it's been working for me
[10:31] <Flannel> !worksforme
[10:31] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[10:31] <Phuzion> !automatix
[10:31] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:31] <CuriousCat> that's strange. the java applets on firefox 2 doesn't seem to work all of a sudden.
[10:31] <shack_> !automatix2
[10:31] <shack_> nothin ;)
[10:31] <shack_> g*
[10:31] <Phuzion> Yeah, its essentially the same thing
[10:31] <CuriousCat> can anyone point me to the directory where the plugins are? i'm using edgy
[10:32] <alink1000> ?
[10:32] <Phuzion> My personal suggestion: Don't install Automatix
[10:32] <alink1000> system-administraion-synaptic package manager
[10:32] <Slart> CuriousCat: I think there are several dirs for plugins.. one per user and one global
[10:32] <alink1000> what's that?
[10:32] <alink1000> check it where?
[10:32] <CraZy675> I have a ubuntu lamp server and i am trying to apt-get gd, but its asking me to put in the cd-rom, how do i set it to download from the repos?
[10:32] <Flannel> CraZy675, remove the CDrom (comment it out) from your sources.list
[10:33] <jirwin> CyberCod: a diff of the two files: http://pastebin.osuosl.org/620
[10:33] <Phuzion> CraZy675: go to /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out/delete the cdrom repo, then do sudo apt-get update
[10:33] <CraZy675> Flannel: thanks
[10:33] <alink1000> shack_?
[10:33] <jirwin> CyberCod: it looks to be fine to me
[10:33] <Flannel> !mpeg | alink1000
[10:33] <ubotu> alink1000: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:33] <shack> alink1000, i've been told not to recommend it, so follow flannel's instructions
[10:33] <LucianSolaris> now, i need either: knetworkmanager to see my eth0 wifi OR a better, more extensive, wifi scanner/viewer/manager (think netstumbler with management capabilities) that doesn't look like gnome ass
[10:33] <CraZy675> awe that was so easy
[10:33] <alink1000> k
[10:33] <CraZy675> awesome
[10:34] <timbobsteve> hey all
[10:35] <LucianSolaris> anyone?
[10:36] <LucianSolaris> now, i need either: knetworkmanager to see my eth0 wifi OR a better, more extensive, wifi scanner/viewer/manager (think netstumbler with management capabilities) that doesn't look like gnome ass
[10:36] <Flannel> !repeat | LucianSolaris
[10:36] <ubotu> LucianSolaris: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:37] <timbobsteve> can anyone help me diagnose a problem I am having? Out of the blue my machine started taking a ridiculous amount of time to open X applications. e.g. it now takes 20 seconds to open gnome-terminal.... and it never did before. Are there any logs that I can look at to help find what the problem is?
[10:37] <Ribs> timbobsteve, run 'top' and see if all your CPU is being eaten up by something
[10:37] <Phuzion> timbobsteve: possible memory leak on something?
[10:37] <Gyro54> Hi all
[10:38] <flo> how can i foundout if my sistem realy uses direct rendering? cedega says it doesn't
[10:38] <abyssinia2> 11
[10:38] <Gyro54> Can anyone suggest the best method to run a Creative Zen Vision M on Edgy?
[10:38] <timbobsteve> Ribs: top says that there is only 4% CPU usage... and that is Xorg using that
[10:39] <Ribs> run top as root?
[10:39] <Ribs> timbobsteve, I know this is very 'window-ish' -- but have you tried rebooting?
[10:39] <magic_ninja> whats up
[10:39] <Ribs> my guess is *something* is screwing around there
[10:39] <Ribs> it's a worry top isn't seeing it
[10:40] <timbobsteve> Ribs: Rebooting doesn't help... and Xorg is still the highest CPU user (when running top as root)....
[10:40] <Ribs> the only time that really happens is if top has been replaced with a altered version :/
[10:40] <jirwin> CyberCod: any ideas?
[10:40] <Ribs> timbobsteve, does this machine have any servers on it?
[10:40] <Ribs> even sshd or something
[10:40] <timbobsteve> Ribs: from the CLI apps respond at a normal rate, but all apps in X takes forever to load....
[10:40] <alink1000> I don't see software properties in administration, just software sources..
[10:41] <alink1000> =|
[10:41] <Ribs> oh, hrm
[10:41] <Ribs> that's... odd
[10:41] <alink1000> and it doesn't look the same
[10:41] <alink1000> as it says in the wiki
[10:41] <Flannel> alink1000, that's what it should be.  It's S.P. in dapper, S.S. in edgy
[10:41] <alink1000> maybe it's different in 6.10?
[10:41] <Ribs> timbobsteve, which video driver are you using?
[10:41] <alink1000> ah
[10:41] <timbobsteve> Ribs: I had sshd and xinetd... but I shut them down... I also killed all the vmware services (I have VMWare Workstation on this machine)
[10:41] <timbobsteve> Ribs: open radeon driver
[10:41] <Flannel> alink1000, might look a bit different, but the general process is the same
[10:41] <Ribs> does swapping to vesa fix it?
[10:42] <alink1000> k
[10:42] <timbobsteve> Ribs: will have to check... brb.. gotta kill gaim
[10:42] <Ribs> k
[10:44] <Peebo> Well for the first time in 10 years Linux has disappointed me. There does not seem to be a Linux equivalent of dvdshrink.
[10:44] <StarScream> Peebo: you haven't looked hard enough :)
[10:45] <StarScream> Peebo: google will help you
[10:45] <n30n> what do i have to do to play .rm files (real media)
[10:45] <Peebo> StarScream, It ha not dvdrip, acid rip not even close to the fuctionality of DVDshrink
[10:45] <StarScream> n30n: real media player
[10:45] <Ribs> Peebo, http://mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/dvdshrink/ -- seriously, first hit on google dude (if you don't mind using wine)
[10:45] <StarScream> google for Linux DVD Shrink
[10:46] <n30n> StarScream: Is that availible for ubuntu
[10:46] <Peebo> WINE is not f*cking LInux
[10:46] <StarScream> n30n: yes...from real networks site
[10:46] <StarScream> Peebo: next link down
[10:46] <StarScream> Peebo: k9copy
[10:46] <Peebo> Running windoze software is not running LInux software
[10:47] <StarScream> k9 copy isn't windows software.
[10:47] <CVirus> sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 /home/cvirus/file.img /media/cdrom/ .... Isnt this the proper way to mount a .img file ?
[10:47] <Peebo> StarScream, I had heard of k9copy. Forgot about it in the mist of lies told about dvdrip
[10:47] <CuriousCat> Peebo: closest one to dvdshrink is this: http://www.bunkus.org/dvdripping4linux/single/
[10:48] <roryy> CVirus: if it's an iso 9660 image, yes. They typically have extension .iso, though
[10:48] <CuriousCat> What i need is to change avi, mpg, etc... to DVD
[10:48] <CuriousCat> or even VCD
[10:48] <StarScream> CuriousCat: transcode or ffmpeg
[10:48] <StarScream> CuriousCat: there are some apps in the ubuntu repos
[10:48] <StarScream> dvd something
[10:48] <CuriousCat> ah. thanks StarScream
[10:48] <roryy> CVirus: try running 'file /home/cvirus/file.img' to see what sort of file it is
[10:48] <CVirus> roryy: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,
[10:49] <Flannel> I just installed (dapper) using LVM, everything is on LVM except /boot, when I boot I get "INIT: no inittab file found" and am then asked which runlevel I'd like.  How do I fix this? or what's the problem?
[10:49] <roryy> CVirus: odds are it's not an ISO image then, but something else.  I'm not familiar with all the cd image types (bin/cue/...)
[10:49] <n30n> so the real.com site let me download a .bin file, what do i do with that to install real player
[10:50] <kd7swh> It seems that I have loaded my notebook full of crap I don't even use again and it is lagging quite badly do you guys think I should wait til Feisty Fawn to do a reinstall?
[10:50] <Flannel> !real | n30n
[10:50] <ubotu> n30n: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:52] <CyberCod> curiouscat.... funny that you should mention it... i was just reading this page on dvd authoring in linux  http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/01/06/122323.php
[10:52] <CVirus> roryy: image.img: data
[10:52] <roryy> CVirus: that means file doesn't know what sort of file it is
[10:53] <CVirus> roryy: so ?
[10:53] <Ribs> timbobsteve, any luck?
[10:53] <timbobsteve> Ribs: no go... I also took the time to disable AIGLX as well... still no difference
[10:53] <L0cKd0wN> does thunar work under ubuntu
[10:53] <Peebo> CuriousCat, There is nothing there that does what DVDshrink does, BUT k9copy does read like it is a contender, running apt-get now
[10:53] <roryy> CVirus: you'll need to find out from the source of this file what sort of data it is
[10:53] <CuriousCat> CyberCod: hmm. interesting.
[10:53] <gnomefreak> L0cKd0wN: yes
[10:54] <Ribs> timbobsteve, I honestly have no idea at this point... Can you run a gui app from terminal and see if anything gets spit out?
[10:54] <L0cKd0wN> gnomefreak, do i apt-get it?
[10:54] <CVirus> roryy: it is supposed to be a CD Image !
[10:54] <break_> OS: Windows Millenium 4.90 (Build #3000) CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4400+, 2.21 GHz, 1024KB Video: Direct3D HAL (1152x864x24bpp 85hz) Sound: Realtek ALC850 rev 0 Memory: Used: 398/1011MB Uptime: 12h 54m 23s HD: Free: 112.36 GB/134.55 GB Connection: ra0 @ 0 bps (Rec: 3044.41MB Sent: 130.35MB)
[10:54] <timbobsteve> yeh tried that when I used 'time' to time the speed of opening an app
[10:54] <gnomefreak> L0cKd0wN: yeah install it first
[10:54] <break_> hahahaahaha, windows ME rofl
[10:54] <roryy> CVirus: you need to find out what sort of cd image
[10:55] <CyberCod> well ppl... i've got to get some sleep
[10:55] <|Sora|> there is no themes for ubuntu that can make window titles transparent, right?
[10:55] <Ribs> timbobsteve, I guess somehow your xorg install has become fubar
[10:55] <timbobsteve> damn :(
[10:55] <CyberCod>                   goodnight all
[10:55] <Ribs> timbobsteve, Try a livecd to remove any doubts about your hardware
[10:56] <Peebo> Quickly before it completes downloading k9copy is downloading some KDE libs, tell me it's not going to install KDE on my computer and that it will run under gnome
[10:56] <Ribs> timbobsteve, then I'd suggest a reinstall
[10:56] <Ribs> Peebo, It will run under gnome
[10:56] <Ribs> Peebo, But it is a KDE application
[10:57] <Peebo> Ribs, 23Meg D/L that unpacks to 84Meg please tell me it's not installing KDE on my machine
[10:57] <Ribs> Peebo, If you want to run a KDE based application, it will need some KDE parts to work
[10:57] <Ribs> that's a given
[10:58] <Peebo> Ribs, I'm OK with some KDE parts, but I don't want that butt ugly mother of a thing taking over my desktop
[10:59] <Ribs> I doubt it will 'take over'
[10:59] <Ribs> the only KDE app I use is Amarok, and that plays fairly nicely
[10:59] <Peebo> Ribs, Fingers crossed
[11:01] <Peebo> Ribs, Just out of curiosity how easy is it to switch between KDE and Gnome if you installed both ?
[11:01] <Ribs> you just select which session you want from your login manager
[11:02] <Ribs> however, you'll find both sets of applications in your menus
[11:02] <Ribs> and it's generally a bit messy
[11:02] <Peebo> Kewl, I've used Linux for just over 10 years but it has always been console based, I played every now and then with X but never had a use for it.
[11:03] <gnomefreak> edit your munes and you wont have that problem :)
[11:03] <gnomefreak> menus*
[11:03] <prince> hi everyone
[11:04] <Peebo> Ok here goes nothing k9copy has just installed BBL
[11:04] <prince> i need help with my wireless connection.
[11:05] <prince> i've downloaded ndiswrapper-utils. but can't install it.
[11:05] <|Sora|> Is there any way in ubuntu that can make window titles transparent?
[11:06] <metal03> Anyone here available to give a few pointers to a Linux beginner?
[11:07] <Jowi> |Sora|, Beryl/Compiz is a 3d accelerated window manager
[11:08] <Jowi> !beryl
[11:08] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:08] <|Sora|> there is no other way?
[11:08] <|Sora|> like from themes?
[11:08] <metal03> If anyone is available to explain a few things about ubuntu, I'd apreciate it!
[11:09] <wolfgang> metal03: shoot
[11:09] <jpjacobs> metal03, yeah sure: first of all read the docs before doing/trying stuff. and there is a starters page on the ubuntu-wiki if i'm not mistaken.
[11:09] <kane77> metal03, might try
[11:09] <Jowi> |Sora|, there are some "fake" transparencies in a couple of window managers, but in Gnome you have no such option as far as I know
[11:09] <alex_> what is the best file system supported by both windows and ubuntu?
[11:09] <metal03> Well I have a little bit of problems understanding the whole "installing programs" thing...
[11:10] <Slart> alex_there are drivers for ext2 for windows
[11:10] <Slart> alex_ : or let me see if I can find the url
[11:10] <mneptok> alex_: ext3. http://fs-driver.org
[11:10] <|Sora|> ok jowl, 1 more question, when i minimize something, to get it again, i have to do alt + tab, how do i make it apprar in the bottom tab and not disappear?
[11:10] <alex_> Slart:  thanks Slart, mneptok
[11:11] <kane77> metal03, okay.. so there are repositories, think of it as an ftp server containing lots of programs... repositories you have are stored in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:11] <n30n> !real
[11:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:11] <wolfgang> metal03: have  you used Synaptic Package Manager at all?
[11:11] <Pie-rate> "for 284 days last year, exploit code was publicly available for unpatched vulnerabilities in IE6 and below."
[11:11] <alex_> i was hoping there was something understood by windows without drivers
[11:11] <mneptok> alex_: FAT32
[11:11] <alex_> as it is for a usb disk i use on all sorts of computers
[11:11] <Slart> alex_ ok, that was the same one as mneptok gave you.. it works
[11:11] <alex_> mneptok:  the problem with fat32, it doesnt support filesizes of 4gb+
[11:12] <mneptok> alex_: for flash storage you want fat32
[11:12] <kane77> metal03, to install programs from your repositories use synaptic package manager... (system -> administration -> synaptic)
[11:12] <alex_> something i need :(
[11:12] <jpjacobs> metal03, there are several repositories (listed in /etc/sources.list) these are site where apt get's the software from.synaptic is a frontent to the commandline tool apt-get.
[11:12] <Jowi> |Sora|, right click on the bottom bar and add a window list applet to it
[11:12] <jpjacobs> frontend*
[11:12] <alex_> its a usb hdd
[11:12] <mneptok> alex_: then you want ekt3
[11:12] <mazinyer_Z> ???
[11:12] <metal03> wolfgang: I've read a lot in the forums about it...  and I tried to use it...  but I'm not sure if I did anything!!
[11:12] <mneptok> *ext3
[11:12] <alex_> mneptok:  yeah no worries, ill use that
[11:12] <mazinyer_Z> http://groups.msn.com/MARDELPLATABUENOSAIRESARGENTINA/general.msnw?action=mb_post&mview=1&ID_TopParent=2114&ID_Parent=2115
[11:13] <mazinyer_Z> http://groups.msn.com/MARDELPLATABUENOSAIRESARGENTINA
[11:14] <kane77> metal03, you might only get a .deb file to install it double click it and the gdebi starts and installs it for you... (however be aware that dependencies exist - a package depends on some other packages so to install a program all the packages that the program depend on have to be installed)
[11:14] <jpjacobs> metal03, also, not all program's you install appear in the menu, sometimes you'll have to search what command launches them. This is however trivial most of the time. like if you type firefox  in a console it would launch mozilla-firefox
[11:14] <break_> sup
[11:14] <break_> need help again lol
[11:14] <nzMM> hello, question if compiz wobbles but i have no borders, whats the likely reason?
[11:15] <L0cKd0wN> hey guys, ubuntu just completely crashed on me, i had to hold down the power button to force a hard reboot, are there system logs to tell me what happened? (im new to linux)
[11:15] <kane77> metal03, synaptic solves the dependencies automatically
[11:15] <wolfgang> metal03: After you mark the program you want to install (and any dependencies) you have to hit the "apply" button in the top row
[11:15] <break_> so i downloaded a .tar.bz2...and i found instructions on what to do with it on the intarweb, and it doesnt work
[11:15] <mneptok> nzMM: the default Metacity in GNOME doesn't work with compositors, iirc
[11:16] <break_> anyone care to help me figure out what i'm doing wrong?
[11:16] <mneptok> L0cKd0wN: cat /var/log/messages
[11:16] <Flannel> break_, what "doesn't work"?
[11:16] <kane77> metal03, the third possibility is that you only have a program in .tar.gz or tar.bz and its in source form... to handle this you have to install "build-essential" package
[11:17] <|Sora|> Jowi, its a wine application that dont show up
[11:17] <break_> tar xvjf LastFM_Linux_1.0.0b.tar.bz2...huge list of files that extract to a new folder
[11:17] <break_> i browse to that folder, and i have no idea how to install from there
[11:17] <mneptok> break_: tar -jxvf filename.tar.bz2
[11:18] <break_> yes
[11:18] <Flannel> break_, why not just install lastFM from the repositories?
[11:18] <break_> it extracted
[11:18] <break_> i cant find it
[11:18] <Flannel> it's in universe
[11:18] <Flannel> !info lastFM
[11:18] <ubotu> lastfm: an audio player for last.fm personalized radio. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.90-3 (edgy), package size 476 kB, installed size 1080 kB
[11:18] <break_> wow
[11:18] <metal03> hehehe...  wow!!  That's a lot of information...  I have like 10 questions after each explanation you guys give me!!  I'm so exited about ubuntu :)
[11:18] <mneptok> that's a far saner idea
[11:18] <kane77> break_, you sure you need lastFM... amarok has it integrated
[11:18] <break_> yes
[11:18] <Flannel> !universe | break_
[11:18] <ubotu> break_: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[11:18] <break_> i want lastfm for xmms
[11:18] <jpjacobs> metal03, if the program is'nt listed in the menu, and it doesn't work when you type in it's name at the commandline, you can request a list of files owned by a package in synaptic. Right click on the package, and you'll find it. Usually executables are in /bin /sbin /usr/sbin or /usr/bin. you can also request a list of files owned by the package by entering dpkg -L <package> on the commandline (CLI). (btw use man to get extensive info a
[11:18] <break_> i know that
[11:18] <kane77> break_, ok.. sorry
[11:19] <Flannel> I just installed (dapper) using LVM, everything is on LVM except /boot, when I boot I get "INIT: no inittab file found" and am then asked which runlevel I'd like.  How do I fix this? or what's the problem?
[11:19] <break_> alright, so explain to me how i find lastfm
[11:19] <zcat[1] > break_: lastfm? all I want for xmms is my two front teeth...
[11:20] <zcat[1] > sorry, lme joke..
[11:20] <break_> i already searched for it in synaptic
[11:20] <alecjw> hi. what port does vnjc use? is it 5901?
[11:20] <break_> and it comes up with nothing
[11:20] <wolfgang> break_: in my experience lastfm sucks
[11:20] <alecjw> *vnc
[11:20] <kane77> break_, you have universe enabled?
[11:20] <break_> who cares
[11:20] <zcat[1] > lastfm - an audio player for last.fm personalized radio
[11:20] <break_> yes i have universe enabled
[11:20] <metal03> (Kane77, jpjacobs, wolfgang or anyone else) Would anyone of you guys be available to discuss this live on TeamSpeak or something?
[11:20] <break_> i just want it because it keeps track of what i listen to
[11:21] <zcat[1] > must be in seveas if it's not in multiverse...
[11:21] <Slart> alecjw: 5900 I think
[11:21] <zcat[1] > !seveas
[11:21] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:21] <Flannel> break_, you're on Dapper aren't you
[11:21] <Slart> alecjw: 5900 for display 0, 5901 for display 1 etc...
[11:21] <break_> well, it isnt showing u
[11:21] <break_> yes im on dapper
[11:21] <alecjw> Slart: thanks :)
[11:22] <zcat[1] > ahhhh... might be an edgy thing then.
[11:22] <jpjacobs> metal03 ermmm maybe just make a seperate channel :) any ideas?
[11:22] <zcat[1] > !search lastfm
[11:22] <ubotu> Found:
[11:22] <Slart> alecjw: you're welcome
[11:22] <Flannel> break_, lastfm isn't in dapper repositories, only edgy.
[11:22] <break_> thanks for telling me now
[11:22] <zcat[1] > !upgrade
[11:22] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[11:22] <metal03> jpjacobs : I tried to PM you...
[11:22] <break_> so, i already have the .tar.bz2 downloaded and extracted
[11:22] <break_> how what do i do with it
[11:22] <jpjacobs> metal03, made a channel #helpmetal03 :)
[11:22] <break_> now*
[11:22] <Flannel> !compile | break_
[11:22] <ubotu> break_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:22] <metal03> lol
[11:22] <metal03> k
[11:23] <zcat[1] > !botsnack
[11:23] <ubotu> Yum!
[11:23] <break_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:23] <zcat[1] > break_: sudo ?
[11:23] <break_> yep
[11:24] <Peebo> Well k9copy is fast, I'll give it that but the test is in the quality of the final dvd. only 25% to go
[11:24] <zcat[1] > something else open?
[11:24] <chalcedony> how big is ubuntu ? gb and cds ?
[11:24] <break_> <1gb, 1cd
[11:24] <break_> for the regular install at least, right?
[11:24] <zcat[1] > chalcedony: base install is only one CD.. but I generally add another 500M of packages to make it useable...
[11:24] <Peebo> Ubuntu 32 bit desktop 672 Meg ISO
[11:25] <chalcedony> zcat[1] : TY
[11:25] <Peebo> Ubuntu 32 bit server 452 Meg ISO
[11:25] <zcat[1] > codecs, flash, java, kino, a few games...
[11:25] <Peebo> 64 bit versions similar size
[11:25] <break_> Downstream: 0.00 KBytes/s  Upstream: 0.00 KBytes/s
[11:25] <break_> hah, its broken :(
[11:26] <break_> Current Downstream: 0.07 KBytes/s
[11:27] <|Sora|> how do i install "dmsetup" im tring to install truecrypt
[11:27] <L0cKd0wN> if a system crash occurs, is it possible that because the OS stop functioning, no log message is created of the event?
[11:27] <grub_booter> zcat[1] : it's nice to see kino in that list :-D
[11:28] <SubMOA> speaking of truecrypt, can you use that on a HDD that already has data on it or do I need to reformat?
[11:28] <break_> wow this is confusing
[11:28] <break_> just to install a program?
[11:28] <break_> this is at least 20 minutes of reading
[11:28] <Slart> SubMOA: I think you have to do it on a clean drive.... or tryecrypt will clean it for you =)
[11:28] <L0cKd0wN> what program? heh
[11:29] <kane77> metal03, I dont use teamspeak...
[11:29] <kane77> metal03, but I'm available here just pm me
[11:29] <SubMOA> Slart, haha, thanks
[11:29] <emile> L0cKd0wN: i guess so because disk hasnt synced yet
[11:29] <break_> alright, ./configure doesn't always do something, right?
[11:29] <zcat[1] > it's ice to see kino working properly :)
[11:29] <zcat[1] > *nice
[11:29] <grub_booter> heh
[11:30] <Jowi> SubMOA, you can use it on whatever drive you want. basically you create a container of, let's say, 300MB. when dectrypted you can put stuff in it and it will automatically encrypt what you put in. then you just unmount the file and no-one can see what's inside it until you mount it again.
[11:30] <grub_booter> zcat[1] : i used to contribute a lot to that project - haven't had time of late :-/
[11:30] <zcat[1] > well, in part because I finally have a fast enough computer, but there were a few issues with it before. It's pretty good now! I'm thinking I might do a podcast sometime.
[11:30] <grub_booter> cool
[11:30] <SubMOA> jowi, neato... does that utilize stenography at all?
[11:30] <emile> L0cKd0wN: if i recall correctly there is a alt-sysrq combined with some keys (s,u,b) which does sync-unmount-reboot and can be useful in some cases
[11:31] <L0cKd0wN> sounds over my head heh
[11:31] <L0cKd0wN> all i know is that linux boasts stability, and that wasn't it.... hahaha
[11:31] <L0cKd0wN> ><
[11:32] <Slart> L0cKd0wN: if you want stability, go with the older distros.. Debian, Suse etc.. Ubuntu is a bit young to be that stable =)
[11:32] <emile> L0cKd0wN: but with sysrq you might get your logs
[11:33] <L0cKd0wN> heh
[11:33] <L0cKd0wN> yea im googling :)
[11:33] <break_> Current Downstream: 1371.99 KBytes/s
[11:33] <break_> :D
[11:33] <emile> yay for google ;)
[11:33] <break_> it said i need QT 4.1.x
[11:34] <levander> Anyone knows where the "temporary internet files" for Firefox are?
[11:34] <SubMOA> ... do any of these crypto programs utilitze stenography?
[11:34] <levander> The ones that cache web pages and the such.
[11:34] <zcat[1] > levander: yes.
[11:34] <SubMOA> opps, I mean steganography
[11:34] <Jowi> SubMOA, i have no idea. check truecrypts homepage
[11:34] <L0cKd0wN> levander, type about:config
[11:34] <L0cKd0wN> prolly find it there :P
[11:34] <L0cKd0wN> (in the URL bar)
[11:35] <SubMOA> jowi, rgr, thanks
[11:35] <zcat[1] > levander: somewhere under ~/.mozilla/firefox/ -- was going to look for them but I haev cache turned off :)
[11:35] <Jowi> SubMOA, truecrypt.org
[11:35] <Peebo> :)
[11:35] <SubMOA> thanks jowi
[11:35] <Slart> SubMOA: there is at least one program that use steganography to hide stuff in jpegs that I know of.. but none of the big ones do that.. it's .. a bit ... amateurish =)
[11:36] <levander> I typed about:config, there are a few hundred entries up there.
[11:36] <zcat[1] > levander: configureable, isn't it!!
[11:36] <break_> alright
[11:36] <break_> so is it possible to install this or what???
[11:36] <zcat[1] > break_: possible, yes. For you.. perhaps :)
[11:37] <levander> zcat[1] : Is there any user-specific data that firefox stores?  I "mv .mozilla mozilla-conf.bak" and restart firefox, it still knows what extensions I had installed.
[11:37] <break_> i'm about to give up and go back to windows
[11:37] <break_> this is complete BS
[11:37] <break_> it takes me an hour or two to do ANYTHING in dapper
[11:37] <levander> break_: You can repeat problem?  I got here after you stated it.
[11:37] <Slart> break_: who trickee you into
[11:37] <zcat[1] > break_: you build stuff from source in windows?
[11:37] <break_> but if i had edgy...it would work
[11:37] <SubMOA> slart I was reading some technical document (way over my head, so i just breezed a lot of it) but I THINK it was saying everything on the HDD (every sector thingy) is randomly written, then the data is sporadically written to areas, although in different containers, so that you can give a key to one container and it will open everything, but that all the others seems to be random data intermingled with all the other "data"
[11:37] <Jowi> SubMOA, the joy of truecrypt is that it is transparent. the container, while mounted, acts as a normal folder. when you unmount it it becomes a regular file, so you can name it what you want like "corrupted .doc file - need repair" and no one can check if it's a truecrypt file or not.
[11:37] <Slart> break_: who trickee you into thinking linus would be easy =)
[11:37] <SubMOA> jowi, nice.
[11:38] <break_> people tell me to do something, and it NEVER works
[11:38] <|Sora|> SubMOA, truecrypt does not have steno
[11:38] <|Sora|> stega
[11:38] <SubMOA> I shouldn't have said "everything" in the second to last line.  I meant everyting in that container slart
[11:38] <break_> You need Qt 4.1.x to compile this source-code
[11:38] <Slart> SubMOA: that sounds.. plausible.. I haven't checked out troecrypt in a while.. but that's not really steganography, is it?
[11:38] <levander> break_: I'd personally still on use Linux if I were interested in learning about it, or if I had an admin handy.  Although, it is getting a lot closer to being usable to end-users.  A lot  closer with Ubuntu.
[11:38] <break_> how do i make sure QT 4.1.x is installed
[11:39] <L0cKd0wN> what's the problem? heh
[11:39] <break_> i need to find that girls number
[11:39] <break_> shes a cute 17 year old linux geek
[11:39] <Jowi> SubMOA, I just saw on truecrypts homepage that it does have steganography as an option (they call it hidden volume)
[11:39] <zcat[1] > break_: Find a precompiled package for your distro. Or upgrade to edgy where you know it's in the repos. Compiling from source is usually not the best options
[11:39] <SubMOA> slart, I think steganography is the science of hiding data.
[11:39] <SubMOA> jowi, nice
[11:39] <levander> break_: Why do you want QT 4.1? For what purpose?
[11:39] <break_> i need it to install something i really want
[11:39] <SubMOA> slart, that's hiding, right?
[11:39] <Slart> SubMOA: yes.. I agree with you there.. and ok.. if you call hiding a volume steganography.. sure =)
[11:39] <Peebo> WOH ! cute female Linux Geek,  someone is dreaming, but I like it.
[11:39] <|Sora|> jowi, but thats not steganography
[11:39] <break_> nooo!
[11:39] <break_> not dreaming
[11:40] <break_> i lost her phone number when i moved last weekend
[11:40] <SubMOA> ... I would want to use all six crypto schemes :O)
[11:40] <break_> i moved back to this crappy town
[11:40] <levander> break_: Ubuntu isn't like Windows where you're supposed to so easily mix and match applicaion versions.  It's a lot easier if you just stay with what your distribution has officially packaged for you.
[11:40] <Slart> I think more of hiding data inside sound files and such when I hear steganography.. but I guess digging a hole in the ground for the hard drive might be hiding it too =)
[11:41] <Peebo> slaps break_
[11:41] <break_> so if i cant find it through the package manager, then dont even think about using it?
[11:41] <AlexC_> Morning all
[11:41] <SubMOA> slart, haha, yes, and a very fine science it would turn out to be.
[11:41] <|Sora|> with truecrypt, you can only hide it under a truecrypt volume, which is foolish i think
[11:41] <Jowi> |Sora|, why wouldn't it be? steganography is to hide information inside other data. like hiding a message within a message.
[11:41] <break_> so i'll ask again
[11:41] <SubMOA> |Sora|, whys that?
[11:41] <zcat[1] > levander: more to the point; there is only one 'windows distro' -- and nobody in windows builds apps from source..
[11:41] <break_> how can i make sure that QT 4.1.x is installed
[11:41] <|Sora|> any idiot knows that its truecrypt :)
[11:41] <levander> zcat[1] : Yeah, so?
[11:41] <break_> qmake -v?
[11:41] <|Sora|> and that it has this feature
[11:42] <emile> break_: 0900-acidburn? ;-)
[11:42] <Peebo> What kind of IRC server doesn't have the slap command :(
[11:42] <francalier> break_: install libqt4-dev
[11:42] <levander> zcat[1] : You also can't upgrade every single application on your entire system with one command, without even having to reboot, when a new release of the distribution comes out with Windows.
[11:42] <break_> there
[11:42] <SubMOA> |Sora|, so what would be a better route?
[11:42] <Peebo> howd U do dat
[11:43] <levander> zcat[1] : Just install edgy, you're bitching is taking more time than it would take to install it.
[11:43] <break_> /me slaps Peebo around a bit with a large trout
[11:43] <zcat[1] > levander: yeah, I know... It's nuts to build stuff from source, nobody does it in windows.
[11:43] <SubMOA> |Sora|, ohh
[11:43] <avalon> Is there a way to use my USB memory stick as a general login for my Kubuntu installation? Also, can I store all my passwords on it?
[11:43] <Peebo> Ah
[11:43] <zcat[1] > levander: wrong person.. you want to tell break_
[11:43] <Jowi> SubMOA, |Sora| the only thing that can give anyone a hint that it can be a truecrypt file is that you have the truecrypt program installed on the system. if every system came installed with it as default it wouldn't be a problem but as long as you have to install it manually it raise suspicion perhaps...
[11:43] <|Sora|> you have a gun to your head ... "open that file or we will kill your family" you open the hidden volume using truecrypt " you think we are idiots?" lol ...
[11:43] <levander> zcat[1] : The only time I build stuff from source is when I'm really stuck wanting an application and Ubuntu doesn't provide it, which is once or twice a year.  Or, if I'm developing some software against some library or something I need a specific version of the library for.
[11:44] <levander> zcat[1] : my bad
[11:44] <SubMOA> jowi, but you still have plausible deniability, right?
[11:44] <levander> break_: the bitching comment above was for you
[11:44] <break_> i see
[11:44] <levander> break_: Just install edgy
[11:44] <Peebo> Yeah that's kewl
[11:45] <Jowi> SubMOA, I would say so. unencrypted, the file looks like random data and can not be destinguished from a corrupted file
[11:45] <Beawolfe> can anybody help me with compiz?
[11:45] <levander> break_: And, if you don't have much on dapper that you care for saving, I'd really do a fresh install of edgy.  Ubuntu didn't do such a good job with the upgrade process to edgy from dapper.  Just install fresh.
[11:45] <AlexC_> Beawolfe: not if you don't ask the question!
[11:45] <zcat[1] > levander: same. almost never. If it's not in a repo somewhere I generally just wait for someone to package it... been a while since I've needed to compile anything :)
[11:45] <SubMOA> jowi oh, ok.
[11:45] <break_> Beawolfe: where are you in fairfax county?
[11:45] <|Sora|> jowi, but thats true of any truecrypt file, there is no need for a hidden one
[11:45] <levander> zcat[1] : Every time I've compiled something myself, I've decided later it was a mistake and that I didn't really need it.  I can't think of one time I was glad I did that.
[11:46] <|Sora|> the whol point of a hidden volume is to hide it when someone asks you to open it
[11:46] <Beawolfe> I installed the proggy but cant find it to add to menus or how I can configure it
[11:46] <SubMOA> what do you use to open a hidden volume in turcrypt?
[11:46] <Tucky> hey guys can someone help me with my wireless card??
[11:46] <AlexC_> Beawolfe: it should be in System->prefs somewhere
[11:46] <Jowi> |Sora|, I would compare it to any other type of security measure - security by obscurity. not bad but also not foolproof.
[11:46] <AlexC_> Tucky: No, not untill you ask the question!!!
[11:46] <emile> what program is needed to convert video to 3gp (nokia phone) format?
[11:46] <Music_Shuffle> !anyone | tucky
[11:46] <ubotu> tucky: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:46] <zcat[1] > levander: actually, about the upgrade. Mine went sweet! Lots of stuff installed and configured so I really didn't want to start fresh either...
[11:47] <Jowi> |Sora|, in truecrypt, the hidden volume is hidden. you need to know the exact name of the hidden volume in order to mount it. it is not visible.
[11:47] <Tucky> ive got a wireless card in my desktop which had ra61 chip, but i cant get it working, can someone help?
[11:47] <SubMOA> |Sora|, there has to be away to open it, though, right? like pressing "alt + 7" or something would open up a dialoge box to enter a password.  Couldn't they just do all possible key combo's and shabam?
[11:47] <avalon> Is there a way to use my USB memory stick as a general login for my Kubuntu installation? Also, can I store all my passwords on it?
[11:48] <znejk> hello
[11:48] <SubMOA> jowi where would you enter that?
[11:48] <|Sora|> no SubMOA, they have seperate activations
[11:48] <Beawolfe> can't find it there Alex
[11:48] <Jowi> |Sora|, someone can see that the file is 300MB large and that it only contain 290MB of data but that's it.
[11:48] <AlexC_> Beawolfe: you could install Beryl instead?
[11:48] <Jowi> SubMOA, enter what?
[11:48] <SubMOA> |sora| Jowi I think I'll just have to fiddle around with it to get a good understanding.
[11:48] <break_> Beawolfe: I have an off-topic question to ask you.
[11:48] <SubMOA> jowi, the "exact name of the hidden volume"
[11:49] <levander> zcat[1] : break_ sounds like a newbie, and my upgrade to edgy was hell, as were lots of others, if he doesn't have much on his dapper box, i'd recommend a fresh install.  If he does have a lot, dist-upgrade like you say.
[11:49] <AlexC_> Beawolfe: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu
[11:49] <Beawolfe> not sure how on Dapper........wiki page says there is no answers for installment on Dapper at all
[11:49] <break_> I don't need LastFM, but i'm used to having it. I like how it keeps track of what I litsten to.
[11:49] <Jowi> SubMOA, when you mount the volume
[11:50] <zcat[1] > levander: yeah, probably. My upgrade from breezy to dapper wasn't quite as easy.  I ended up reinstalling that time :)
[11:50] <SubMOA> jowi, ooo
[11:50] <break_> If compiling is going to be this big of a PITA, I'll just forget about it.
[11:50] <zcat[1] > break_: yeah, totally. compiling's for gurus and developers...
[11:50] <Amaranth> Beawolfe: Dapper is not supported by beryl or compiz
[11:51] <Amaranth> break_: rhythmbox (and most of music managers) have last.fm plugins to report what songs you listen to
[11:51] <break_> I was under the impression that everyone would end up having to compile something.
[11:51] <zcat[1] > break_: ten years ago....
[11:52] <break_> But if you download something, you usually get the souce.
[11:52] <Beawolfe> Amaranth Okay Thanx!
[11:52] <zcat[1] > well, perhaps five years ago.. recent distros you should never really need to compile stuff.
[11:52] <Amaranth> break_: If it's not in Ubuntu it doesn't exist. :P
[11:52] <Amaranth> !dstats
[11:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dstats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:52] <Amaranth> aww
[11:52] <Amaranth> Ubuntu has something like 20000 packages
[11:52] <Music_Shuffle> lol :P
[11:52] <break_> and you can always add more
[11:53] <SubMOA> I love encryption!  I just got a book, actually on it... it's in the mail :O)  And i read this book at the library all about how the NSA tried to outlaw crypto good book.
[11:53] <Music_Shuffle> Isn't it like...5k before *verse, and 20k after enabling, yes?
[11:53] <break_> So, that guy Beawolfe...he lives in my area. heh
[11:53] <break_> I need somebody's advice on how to survive in this town. :\
[11:53] <avalon> SubMOA: If you like encryption, can you tell me if it's possible to encrypt all of my hard drives without suffering slowdowns?
[11:54] <zcat[1] > break_: this isn't windows. There's about 18,000 packages in the official repos and quite a lot more in 3rd party repos... you don't download stuff, just find a repo and install precompiled packages through synaptic..
[11:54] <Music_Shuffle> Survove
[11:54] <Music_Shuffle> i*
[11:54] <Music_Shuffle> ...wow that sucked. 'Survive?'
[11:54] <Amaranth> SubMOA: They tried like 15 years ago
[11:54] <Slart> avalon: probably not.. all encryption takes a little effort.. noticable is another thing
[11:54] <Amaranth> SubMOA: it's all open and legal now
[11:54] <break_> I searched for lastfm in Synaptic, and got no results.
[11:54] <Victor```> break_: try amarok
[11:54] <Amaranth> break_: therefore it doesn't exist ;)
[11:54] <|Sora|> Amaranth, after they cracked it, lol
[11:54] <Victor```> it supports last.fm
[11:54] <|Sora|> who knows ;)
[11:55] <emile> zcat[1] : do you know of a good index of (non official) ubuntu repositories?
[11:55] <Music_Shuffle> break_, because its not separate package-wise, its integrated in the media players :P
[11:55] <Amaranth> break_: But if you just want something to report what music you listen to rhythmbox will do that
[11:55] <SubMOA> opps... yea, I kind of have a nagging feeling it's not all that safe
[11:55] <zcat[1] > break_: you just need to find a repo that has it.
[11:55] <zcat[1] > !som
[11:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about som - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:55] <zcat[1] > !sourceomatic
[11:55] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:55] <Amaranth> |Sora|: Trust me, the NSA cannot crack rjindael :P
[11:55] <break_> I'm pretty sure i'll be fine with xmms and nothing to tell me what i've been listening to.
[11:55] <zcat[1] > sourceomatic lists a bunch..
[11:56] <elami> hello
[11:56] <|Sora|> Amaranth, how do you know what the NSA can or cannot do? =)
[11:56] <Victor```> hmm, what do you all prefer? OO.o or KOffice?
[11:56] <SubMOA> figure this:  The FBI is in bed with cellphone manufactures to let them enable the microphone on cellphones (even when turned off) I wonder if the NSA did something with, say, Windows or hardware manufacturers so that any computer hooked up to the net is is part of a cluster (like the folding@home) thing and they can summon the collective power of millions (100's of millions?) computers to crack stuff.
[11:56] <SubMOA> just my paranoid theory
[11:56] <emile> zcat[1] : thnx
[11:56] <elami> Esetleg vannak itt magyarok?
[11:56] <SubMOA> Amaranth, why do you say that?
[11:57] <Victor```> SubMOA: they wouldn't need that, federal funding can afford powerful clusters on its own
[11:57] <AlexC_> break_: last FM _IS_ in the ubutnu repos
[11:57] <zcat[1] > break_: deb http://hassers.fi/ubuntu dapper lastfm   -- add this to your repos in synaptic, refresh, search again and you should have a lastfm package you can add.
[11:57] <AlexC_> break_: sudo apt-get install lastfm
[11:57] <SubMOA> Victor```, true, but couldn't you do a lot more with all those powerful clusters, AND millions of computers
[11:57] <Amaranth> |Sora|, SubMOA: Because every cryptographer in the world says so.
[11:57] <AlexC_> zcat[1] : no need, it's already in the Ubutnu repos!
[11:57] <SubMOA> Amaranth, ohh... I was challenging you, btw, just curious
[11:57] <zcat[1] > AlexC_: not in dapper apparently...
[11:57] <SubMOA> wasn't*
[11:58] <zcat[1] > AlexC_: and he doesn't want to upgrade..
[11:58] <AlexC_> zcat[1] : ahh I see,
[11:58] <AlexC_> break_: try this then: http://people.debian.org/~pxt/lastfm/
[11:58] <Victor```> SubMOA: so you are suggesting that they rigged SELinux?
[11:58] <|Sora|> Amaranth, because they couldn't crack it ... btw ... so you know why such toold like encryption are used? .. to hide secrets .. if they were'nt secrets, everyone would know about it, hehe
[11:58] <Victor```> if SELinux was rigged they'd already be drawing far more power than if Windows was rigged
[11:58] <DragoraN> hi, please, i instaled HP LaserJet 1320 printer on cups, but every time i want to print document, printers waits for pressing green button on printer.. how to disable that? manual feeding is disabled in config. I searched all the web..
[11:59] <Slart> DragoraN: check to see if the default papersize is different from what's in the printer
[11:59] <Victor```> DragoraN: can you print from, say, Windows?
[11:59] <Amaranth> |Sora|: The NSA is not God.
[11:59] <SubMOA> Victor```, ehh... no idea.  it was just a thought.  I would imagine people would notice large CPU usage, etc. but still, it was just a thought...
[11:59] <SubMOA> Amaranth, WHAT? I thought...
[11:59] <SubMOA> just kidding
[11:59] <Music_Shuffle> Amaranth, both in that sense, and in that only God cares about everyone's personal secrets. :P
[12:00] <yukio> Hi, could someone tell me how to create a network between 2 Ubuntu pc's? Maybe with a link to a guide? Thanks.
[12:00] <Victor```> yukio: with a hub or without one
[12:00] <|Sora|> Amaranth, i didn't say they were, but there is a possibility that they do have it cracked, we will never "know" for certain
[12:00] <Slart> SubMOA: that's what all the whining about lag in counterstrike is about.. NSA stealing peoples fps ;)
[12:00] <zcat[1] > if SElinux was rigged, I think someone would notice .. could be an interesting excercise in 'hiding things in plain sight' though :)
[12:00] <SubMOA> slart BAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[12:00] <fildo> yukio: carrier pigeon, that accepts packet transfers
[12:00] <SubMOA> even if that's true, that's funny.
[12:00] <yukio> Victor```, i connected them with an ethernet cable
[12:00] <Victor```> yeah, SELinux is constantly being reviewed by developers, no way they can do that
[12:00] <Victor```> yukio: directly?
[12:01] <Victor```> you need a crossover cable
[12:01] <break_> haha, speaking of counterstrike
[12:01] <yukio> crossover
[12:01] <Amaranth> |Sora|: The only way to break it is brute force
[12:01] <tom_biggy> hi all
[12:01] <tom_biggy> :)
[12:01] <break_> i installed Steam and CS:Source through wine
[12:01] <tom_biggy> what's the problem?
[12:01] <break_> it works, but it runs in DX8 mode, and i only get ~30fps max
[12:01] <|Sora|> ok Amaranth, whatever you say
[12:01] <DragoraN> Slart: sec
[12:01] <break_> i'm thinking its a driver problem
[12:01] <DragoraN> Victor```: yes, windows
[12:02] <yukio> Victor```, yes i connected them with a crossover cable
[12:02] <Victor```> yukio: set one machine's IP to 172.16.0.1 and the other to 172.16.0.2
[12:02] <yukio> i've done 192.168.0.1 and 0.2  its the same?
[12:03] <znejk> i have a strange sound problem .. when i play songs with a little more bass than usual i get a disted sound which i dont get in windows... any clues?
[12:03] <Victor```> yukio: is the subnet mask 255.255.255.0?
[12:03] <SubMOA> does (can?) truecrypt use a dongle
[12:03] <yukio> yes
[12:03] <Victor```> hmm, did you make one machine the gateway?
[12:04] <DragoraN> Slart: papersize is ok..
[12:04] <yukio> Victor```, i set up the desktop as the gateway, 192.168.0.1
[12:04] <zcat[1] > break_: got it sorted now?
[12:04] <Victor```> yukio: have you attempted to ping one machine from the other
[12:04] <[sAt4nAx] > break_ what display card do you have?
[12:04] <Slart> DragoraN: ok, just a thought.. my printer does that if they dont match... checked papersize in the application printing too?
[12:05] <break_> Video: X11 Windowing System on Direct3D HAL (1152x864x24bpp 85hz)
[12:05] <break_> oh comne on
[12:05] <yukio> Victor```: not yet
[12:05] <DragoraN> Slart: yes
[12:05] <Victor```> try it
[12:05] <break_> NVIDIA 7900GT
[12:05] <Victor```> also disable the firewall on both systems
[12:05] <Slart> DragoraN: then I'm out of ideas, sorry
[12:05] <yukio> have none
[12:06] <yukio> i have to disconnect to try that, wait 2 mins
[12:06] <kane77> is there something to stitch panoramic photos together??
[12:06] <Victor```> yukio: ubuntu has a firewall on by default
[12:06] <Slart> kane77: searched the repos? I thought I saw something yesterday when I looked
[12:06] <DragoraN> Slart: ok.. thanks for help
[12:06] <zcat[1] > hugin - Panorama Tools GUI
[12:06] <tom_biggy> guys! do you know how to print a copyrighted pdf document??? In the menu the save as, and the print options a re grayed out... :(
[12:06] <SubMOA> gotta run, see yea, nice chat
[12:06] <zcat[1] > pandora - GIMP Plugin For Creating Panoramas
[12:07] <break_> tom_biggy: take screenshots? haha
[12:07] <pascal> bonjour
[12:07] <DragoraN> anyone ideas?
[12:07] <zcat[1] > tom_biggy: try xpdf?
[12:07] <tom_biggy> i've tried adobe reader and that default prg starting with e....
[12:07] <tom_biggy> evince or sg like this...
[12:08] <zcat[1] > no idea.. none of my pdf's have ever been copy protected..
[12:08] <DragoraN> please, i instaled HP LaserJet 1320 printer on cups, but every time i want to print document, printers waits for pressing green button on printer.. how to disable that? manual feeding is disabled in config. I searched all the web..
[12:08] <tom_biggy> :(
[12:09] <tom_biggy> I've never tried printing in Linux cause i don't have a printer :D
[12:09] <zcat[1] > DragoraN: you sure it's not just taking longer than you expect?
[12:10] <Victor```> DragoraN: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_1320
[12:10] <malomeat> Hello?
[12:10] <yukio> Victor```: you there? i used 172.16.0.x, mask 255.255.0.0 and the ubuntu's ping right each other
[12:11] <zcat[1] > ahhh.. a documented bug :)
[12:11] <Victor```> yukio: that means they have connectivity
[12:11] <malomeat> Can somebody help me?
[12:11] <Victor```> !justask | malomeat
[12:11] <ubotu> malomeat: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:11] <malomeat> Heheh... okay.
[12:12] <DragoraN> zcat[1] : how do you mean?
[12:12] <malomeat> I need tips on how to dualboot ubuntu.
[12:12] <yukio> Victor```: its here i dont know how to go through
[12:12] <malomeat> A link would be fine.
[12:12] <Slart> malomeat: tips? install windows, install ubuntu.. done ? =)
[12:12] <glick> malomeat, ever hear of google?
[12:12] <malomeat> That simple?
[12:12] <Music_Shuffle> ...you guys could just be nice.
[12:12] <Music_Shuffle> !dualboot | malomeat
[12:12] <ubotu> malomeat: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[12:12] <Music_Shuffle> Simple. Jeez.
[12:13] <Slart> malomeat: eh.. yes.. that's what I did
[12:13] <Victor```> malomeat: yes, GParted resizes NTFS partitions
[12:13] <zcat[1] > DragoraN: nm, apparently someone else has the same problem with your printer too..
[12:13] <yukio> Victor```: i would like to share files and possibly the broadband connection
[12:13] <glick> google "ubuntu windows dual boot"
[12:13] <Victor```> yukio: oh, sudo apt-get install firestarter
[12:13] <yukio> on both?
[12:13] <Victor```> no
[12:13] <Victor```> on the one sharing the connection
[12:13] <Music_Shuffle> glick, I just linked him, which would've taken less time than what you said -and- been more useful.
[12:13] <yukio> ok
[12:13] <Slart> malomeat: there are probably some things that could go more or less wrong along the way... I didn't encounter anything special though
[12:13] <zcat[1] > malomeat: seriously; install windows; install ubuntu afterwards. It'll ask if you want to resize windows, set up dual boot, and everything.
[12:14] <Victor```> zcat[1] : it actually does that?
[12:14] <Victor```> heh
[12:14] <Victor```> I have windows on a separate hard drive
[12:14] <|Sora|> how can i open rpm packages in Ubuntu?
[12:14] <Victor```> |Sora|: FIRST, try to find the same package in .deb format
[12:14] <zcat[1] > Victor```: my 10yo is doing this month's LUG presentation, it's that easy :)
[12:14] <glick> Music_Shuffle, i dont get it, its not hard to type into google, searching for google the link you posted is like the second link listed
[12:14] <Music_Shuffle> !alien | |Sora|
[12:14] <ubotu> |Sora|: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[12:14] <Slart> |Sora|: check the application Alien..
[12:14] <|Sora|> ok
[12:14] <Victor```> alien likes to mess things up
[12:14] <Slart> bah
[12:15] <Music_Shuffle> !jfgi | glick
[12:15] <ubotu> glick: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[12:15] <Victor```> look for the same package in .deb format
[12:15] <Music_Shuffle> :P
[12:15] <DragoraN> Victor```: oh.. many thanks :) i used wrong ppd
[12:15] <Victor```> DragoraN: no problem
[12:15] <glick> Music_Shuffle, i didnt say any of those words
[12:15] <yukio> Victor```, sorry, installed it but really dont know how to use it :\
[12:15] <Music_Shuffle> The sentiment's pretty much the same.
[12:15] <Slart> glick: I think jfgi is close enough ;)
[12:15] <glick> Music_Shuffle, not at all
[12:15] <Slart> if that means what I think it does
[12:15] <Music_Shuffle> Yeah. Sentiment-wise, and I said that too.
[12:15] <Music_Shuffle> Slart, it does.
[12:16] <Victor```> read the fine manual? :D
[12:16] <yukio> ill search on the wiki, thanks
[12:17] <Victor```> yukio: although your best bet would be to get a router
[12:17] <Victor```> install firestarter, use the wizard to share your Internet connection
[12:17] <glick> Music_Shuffle, if anything it doesnt hurt to let him know where to find information himself, i just let him know that google is out there and has many answers
[12:17] <glick> thats all
[12:17] <yukio> i cant find it in the menu, maybe i have to start it by console
[12:17] <glick> in case he didnt know about google
[12:17] <Victor```> yukio: system > administration
[12:18] <Jason_Dean> when i'm o scrolling on a web page or any program in general scrolling is way too slow, the same happens when a window is redrawn (like after resizing), any ideas on this ? [running xfce] 
[12:18] <jpjacobs> yukio, if you've got an old box lying around it make a great router in combination with freesco (see http://freesco.org)
[12:18] <Music_Shuffle> ...maybe, but that's not how it came off as to anyone else.
[12:18] <yukio> oh thanks
[12:18] <Victor```> an old box with three NICs lol
[12:18] <Slart> yukio: ipcop is another alternative.. if you've got that box
[12:18] <iocaste> I'm having problems getting a microphone work with my Audigy 4 sound card can anyone help?
[12:18] <zcat[1] > Jason_Dean: too lottle ram? too much running?
[12:19] <zcat[1] > *little
[12:19] <phr34ck> how do I fix fonts in FireFox? I want them to appear the same as if I was using FireFox on windows.
[12:19] <Jason_Dean> no i got lots of free ram
[12:19] <Victor```> you need one NIC connecting to the modem and another connecting to a hub/switch
[12:19] <Jason_Dean> about 200mb free
[12:19] <phr34ck> I have all windows fonts with me "on a usb" .... tell me what to do?
[12:19] <Victor```> phr34ck: it's best you install msttcorefonts
[12:19] <Victor```> !info msttcorefonts
[12:19] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[12:20] <zcat[1] > Jason_Dean: what's top say? any processes out of control?
[12:20] <phr34ck> Victor```, already did that.
[12:20] <phr34ck> nothing happened.
[12:20] <Victor```> phr34ck: err?
[12:20] <zcat[1] > Jason_Dean: just scrolling? No lag opening a new terminal or anything?
[12:20] <Slart> phr34ck: I'm not sure it will look the same anyway.. my installation doesn't look the same.. and I've tried changing fonts etc.. but it might be just me
[12:20] <Victor```> it's in multiverse, which isn't used by default
[12:20] <Jason_Dean> zcat[1] : no it's a fresh system, i had the same problem on my desktop computer and it disapeared after installing nvidia drivers
[12:21] <Victor```> you don't need to manually install your windows fonts
[12:21] <phr34ck> Slart, it's very irritating. It's like FireFox is not being able to render the webpages correctly.
[12:21] <zcat[1] > Jason_Dean: hmm.. install drivers perhaps :)
[12:21] <Jason_Dean> zcat[1] : but now i'm on the laptop who has a generic card with shared memory with the system
[12:21] <phr34ck> Victor```, I did that because there is a link in Ubuntu where they tell you about fonts.
[12:21] <Death_Rider> hi, i've got a problem when i want to instal ubuntu, at the GNOME partition manager i get a msg "No Device Detected" which probably reffers to my HDD
[12:21] <Victor```> phr34ck: enable the multiverse repository in Synaptic
[12:21] <phr34ck> I want to use Tahoma and Terbushet MS.
[12:21] <yukio> Victor```, Thanks a lot! i have internet on both machines :D
[12:21] <phr34ck> Victor```, already there.
[12:21] <Slart> phr34ck: yes.. I agree.. it annoyed me very much .. but I got over it.. it's like having a rock in the shoe.. after 4 or 5 miles you can't be bothered any more ;)
[12:21] <Victor```> phr34ck: both are included
[12:22] <phr34ck> Slart, amen to that.
[12:22] <Jason_Dean> zcat[1] : yeah but what drivers ? I never had this problem with windows,fedora and ubuntu 5, which i have installed in the past
[12:22] <phr34ck> The thing is that I'm always removing the rock and putting it back again ... if you know what I mean.
[12:22] <Slart> phr34ck: hehe.. that's one way of doing it.. yes =)
[12:23] <zcat[1] > Jason_Dean: odd problem. hopefully someone here will know. I don't :(
[12:23] <Jason_Dean> zcat[1] : np, thanks anyway :)
[12:23] <Slart> phr34ck: but try with the fonts.. check the settings in your windows installation... especially which fonts and sizes.. and set it the same in linux.. you might be lucky
[12:23] <Death_Rider> when i want to instal ubuntu, at the GNOME partition manager i get a msg "No Device Detected" which probably reffers to my HDD... how do i make it find my HDD?
[12:23] <Peebo> Well it's official k9copy is crap. Low quality DVD output. I hate it when a Windoze application is the best in it's field. Dvdshrink rules supreme.
[12:24] <Victor```> phr34ck: http://corefonts.sourceforge.net/ has instructions
[12:24] <phr34ck> Slart, I tried to do that, it's close enough. I'm happy with my desktop and everything, the thing is that you cannot controle the rendering of the webpages.
[12:24] <Victor```> I don't see a problem with rendering, heh.
[12:24] <Slart> phr34ck: that's kind of odd.. one would think that the gecko engine would render the same...
[12:25] <phr34ck> Victor```, fonts that is.
[12:25] <Victor```> I installed the core fonts package and it looks fine now
[12:25] <phr34ck> If you open the same website on different platforms, they're not the same, hence, they're not rendered the same.
[12:25] <r4663r> hello
[12:25] <Slart> phr34ck: well.. that's html for you..
[12:26] <aktiwers> Hi
[12:26] <Slart> phr34ck: if people wanted it to look the same they would have used pdf =)
[12:26] <Victor```> phr34ck: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208396
[12:26] <Slart> hello aktiwers
[12:26] <aktiwers> Can anyone help me out with my ATI Drivers?  [9200SE] 
[12:26] <r4663r> can anyone tell me howto make a small wlan accesspoint on my computer that i can connect with my laptop to it?or only a few words for what i have to look at google..
[12:26] <aktiwers> I cant seam to get it work :S
[12:26] <Victor```> !justask | aktiwers
[12:26] <ubotu> aktiwers: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:26] <Slart> !ati | aktiwers
[12:26] <ubotu> aktiwers: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:26] <phr34ck> Slart, kinda. I'm trying to figure out where is the problem. I once tried to create a file on the desktop called .fonts.config, the odd thing is that firefox detected it but it said it's not written correctly.
[12:27] <phr34ck> so perhaps I need a configuration file somewhere.
[12:27] <Victor```> phr34ck: can you at least check out that forum link I gave you?
[12:27] <aktiwers> Oh thanks guys :)
[12:27] <aktiwers> I made a post on the Ubuntu Forums
[12:27] <Slart> aktiwers: have you read that page? or are you following some other setup thingy?
[12:27] <phr34ck> Victor```, I am checking. I'm not the kind that just talks ;p
[12:27] <Slart> phr34ck: never tried that.. I only messed with options in firefox
[12:27] <aktiwers> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=333224
[12:28] <Victor```> I don't really mind the rendering tbh
[12:28] <aktiwers> Yes I followed the needed guides, but without any luyck :S Pls look at my post on UF Im really lost
[12:28] <Victor```> aktiwers: Just tell us what's wrong
[12:28] <phr34ck> Does any of you know how do I change the Refresh rate? in the screen resolution panel, it only shows 51 mhz. I want it 60
[12:28] <aktiwers> I have 3d - I want OpenGL to work
[12:29] <Slart> aktiwers: I have a nvidia myself so I don't really know a lot about ati cards... perhaps someone else is more knowledgable
[12:29] <aktiwers> ok thanks anyways Slart :)
[12:29] <Victor```> aktiwers: did you check /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[12:29] <Slart> phr34ck: is the resolutions correct in the xorg.conf?
[12:29] <phr34ck> Slart, it's 1280x800
[12:29] <aktiwers> I will have a look..  2 sec :)
[12:30] <Slart> phr34ck: and the refresh rates?
[12:30] <phr34ck> I can't see the refresh rate in the file.
[12:30] <phr34ck> Where is it located ?
[12:30] <Victor```> I don't know why people complain about the font rendering in X
[12:30] <Victor```> heh
[12:30] <Slart> phr34ck: I just commented out the lines about refresh rates.. that made xorg get the values from the monitor directly.. then everything worked alright
[12:30] <Victor```> phr34ck: it's in the monitor section of xorg.conf
[12:31] <zak> any good gnome html editors? [not wysiwyg, but preferably with inbuilt preview feature of some kind] 
[12:31] <Victor```> zak: Nvu
[12:31] <Victor```> oh wait
[12:31] <mats> vim<3 works with everything!
[12:31] <phr34ck> ahh, there is a FONT PATH in the xorg.conf
[12:31] <aktiwers> For me it looks alright..  is there a pastebin I can use somewhere? I dont know that much about how it should look.. (the /etc/X11/xorg.con)
[12:31] <Victor```> zak: men use vi
[12:31] <Victor```> are you a man?
[12:31] <Victor```> :D
[12:31] <Slart> phr34ck:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[12:31] <zak> Victor```: yes. a big, girly man. now gimme a HTML IDE!!!
[12:32] <Victor```> :\
[12:32] <Victor```> fine
[12:32] <Slart> !pastebin
[12:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:32] <phr34ck> 	HorizSync	28-64
[12:32] <phr34ck> 	VertRefresh	43-60
[12:32] <phr34ck> these ?
[12:32] <mats> mhm
[12:32] <Slart> phr34ck: yes.. just put a # in front of those
[12:32] <Slart> phr34ck: and see if xorg gets them from the monitor
[12:32] <phr34ck> done, should I log off or anything ?
[12:32] <mats> ?? usb
[12:32] <Slart> phr34ck: restart gnome/kde
[12:32] <Victor```> zak: try Nvu
[12:33] <mats> ubotu: usb?
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:33] <phr34ck> Slart, how do I do that?
[12:33] <Victor```> It has a good HTML IDE built in
[12:33] <aktiwers> ok here it is:
[12:33] <Slart> phr34ck: you can press ctrl+alt+backspace. !! all programs in x will shut down
[12:33] <aktiwers> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/733/
[12:33] <mats> Bluefish is a perfect hmtl-editor.. use that one!
[12:33] <Victor```> yeah so if you're downloading porn
[12:33] <Slart> phr34ck: gnome/kde will restart automatically.. you'll have to log on again etc
[12:33] <Victor```> you better let that stuff finish
[12:33] <phr34ck> ahh okay
[12:33] <phr34ck> will do that in a while, working the fonts now.
[12:34] <Victor```> and downloading porn?
[12:35] <phr34ck> Victor```, I went to the website you gave me, I'm suppoe to download a bunch of XML files but the link is not found, what should I do ?
[12:35] <Victor```> crap...
[12:35] <Victor```> well they're supposed to "improve" font rendering
[12:35] <Victor```> I really don't know
[12:35] <phr34ck> Well, that's fine.
[12:35] <phr34ck> I'm going to change the browser.
[12:36] <Victor```> zak: sudo aptitude install nvu or sudo aptitude install bluefish
[12:36] <phr34ck> Any recommandation ?
[12:36] <Victor```> heh
[12:36] <Victor```> ies4linux
[12:36] <Wibble-> My trash bin contains items owned by root (contained within directories I own and sent there) - how can I empty the trash?
[12:36] <phr34ck> is opera available in the repos. ?
[12:36] <Victor```> phr34ck: yeah, non-free
[12:37] <aktiwers> Victor``` Does my /etc/X11/xorg.conf look right?    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/733/   Strange thing is my fglrxinfo shows MESA?
[12:37] <zak> Victor```: hmmm... bluefish looks like my thing, but i'll try them both. thanks.
[12:37] <Wibble-> Victor```: whats the diff between aptitude install and apt-get install?
[12:37] <Victor```> Wibble-: eh, same thing
[12:38] <Wibble-> oh ok
[12:38] <Slart> hmm.. you only have to disable DRI on nvidia cards?
[12:38] <mats> zak: there is a bunch of editors for html. Good luck! You should try to learn VI(M)
[12:38] <seanj> Slart: I've had no problems with DRI loaded
[12:38] <Victor```> aktiwers: that looks about right
[12:38] <Slart> seanj: oh? all the tutorials I've seen for installing binary drivers for nvidia says to disable it..
[12:39] <mats> Wibble-: aptitude - high-level interface to the package manager
[12:39] <aktiwers> Victor```  ok thanks..  but shouldnt  fglrxinfo show ati instead of MESA then??
[12:39] <mats> Wibble-: its just a "easier" way
[12:39] <seanj> Slart: You probably should, but I've had no trouble with my GeForce 6200 with DRI enabled in xorg.conf
[12:39] <Slart> !nvidia > Slart
[12:39] <Vich> hi
[12:40] <mats> Wibble-: but it does the same thing
[12:40] <Slart> !nvidia | Slart
[12:40] <ubotu> Slart: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:40] <zak> mats: i have a vague understanding of vi [i use it for things where i have to do a quick edit of something and opening a GUI editor would take longer than the editing i need to do] , but i just can't be bothered learning to use it productively with syntax hilighting and such :) i'm forgetful too, so i'd be constantly re-learning.
[12:40] <Slart> seanj: any advantages of having DRI enabled?
[12:40] <seanj> Slart: I don't believe so
[12:40] <rowanjl> Hey
[12:41] <mats> zak: i think gvim should do the job for you then ;)
[12:41] <Wibble-> mats: typing apt-get install is easier than typing aptitude install ;) I assumed that aptitude would do more from the command line than apt-get but if it doesn't, it doesn't.
[12:41] <rowanjl> I was playing a dvd in xine, when I skipped forwards a bit the sound cut out. I've restarted the computer and I still have no sound... wtf!?
[12:42] <Slart> seanj: hmm.. looking at the "official howto", it doesn't say anything about DRI.. note to self.. dont install stuff when deprived of sleep =)
[12:42] <rowanjl> Any idea what I should do?
[12:42] <j0sh0> Hi all, just wondering if someone could help me - I'm running edgy on a laptop with intel integrated 855GM video card. I can't get xserver to run at 1024x768 like it did in windows. I've edited xorg.conf and then xserver wont start, downloaded 915resolution but the resolution is already in one of the modes! I'm lost for what else to do please any help greatly appreciated!
[12:42] <seanj> Slart: lol, join the club... I'm wasted
[12:44] <aktiwers> anyone wanna help me get my ATI drivers work with 3d?
[12:44] <GrimWald> rowanjl did you verify with alsamixer that the sound is still on ? and are sure that any program isn't using the audio output ?
[12:45] <rowanjl> GrimWald: how do I check to see if it is "on"?
[12:45] <aktiwers> I think it has something to do with this error I get when running dmesg | grep   "[17179611.912000]  [fglrx:firegl_unlock]  *ERROR* Process 4633 using kernel context 0"
[12:45] <aktiwers> any ideas?
[12:45] <GrimWald> M stands for mute so check if there is any M for master or PCM
[12:46] <rowanjl> It all looks fine, no mutes
[12:46] <Victor```> rowanjl: is external amplifier muted
[12:46] <rowanjl> Nope
[12:46] <Victor```> try muting that
[12:47] <GrimWald> and no programs as esd or artsd running ?
[12:47] <christopher_l> how do I disable tooltips? anyone?
[12:47] <rowanjl> I see esd in my processes list
[12:48] <Victor```> rowanjl: did you mute the external amplifier?
[12:48] <seanj> I bet tooldips are buried in some arcane configuration file :(
[12:48] <christopher_l> maybe
[12:48] <rowanjl> Victor```: the amp is not muted, and plays other sources fine
[12:49] <rowanjl> GrimWald: I should kill esd?
[12:49] <Victor```> oh, you're not getting any sound fro m a DVD?
[12:49] <Victor```> from
[12:49] <Victor```> did you try other players?
[12:49] <Victor```> vlc, ogle-gui, etc.
[12:50] <rowanjl> no sounds, not just from dvd
[12:50] <Slart> christopher_l: perhaps nautilus does the tool tips.. but I'm just guessing
[12:50] <Victor```> what do you mean it plays other sources fine, though
[12:50] <GrimWald> you could try rowanjl, at first did you verify if the sound in xine is also on ?
[12:50] <rowanjl> GrimWald: it isn't just xine, its every sound generating program, but yeah, I'll try
[12:51] <GrimWald> k
[12:51] <christopher_l> Slart: how do I get in nautilus?
[12:51] <Victor```> mute the external amplifier and try to play something, trust me, it's worked for me before
[12:51] <Slart> christopher_l: I'm working on it.. give me a second
[12:51] <christopher_l> ok
[12:51] <rowanjl> GrimWald: the computer is still silent
[12:52] <GrimWald> weird :/ did you try what Victor``` says ?
[12:52] <rowanjl> Victor```: I think you have a different idea of "external amplifier" than I do. I've got a 6 channel 180w RMS Kenwood amp on my desk :P
[12:52] <Victor```> mute it :P
[12:53] <behemot> hi!
[12:53] <rowanjl> (It doesn't have a mute :X)
[12:53] <Victor```> no...
[12:53] <Victor```> mute it with alsamixer
[12:53] <Victor```> lol
[12:53] <GrimWald> alsamixer
[12:53] <GrimWald> ^^
[12:53] <Victor```> it's a switch
[12:53] <behemot> how to install xplanet on edgy eft + xgl??
[12:53] <Victor```> if it's in the mixer, press M on it
[12:53] <jonah1980_2> hey guys i need some advice... i've got a system at work that is busted up with an old copy of suse, now i've brought the hardrive home so that i can install ubuntu on it and then take it back to work - but will it boot from installing it on another box? the suse that was on it isn't booting on my home machine so i'm in fear it won't boot ubuntu at work!?
[12:54] <rowanjl> Done, but it didn't do anything :P
[12:54] <behemot> how to install xplanet on edgy eft + xgl??
[12:54] <Slart> christopher_l: run gconf-editor in a terminal
[12:55] <bzuci> 6.10, sound card cs46xx, no microphone input, capture is selected. Anyone....?
[12:55] <Victor```> rowanjl: so unmute it and try something else
[12:55] <christopher_l> Slart: Im already in there, but I can't turn all tooltips off
[12:55] <rowanjl> Victor```: something else?
[12:55] <christopher_l> only the top panel
[12:56] <GrimWald> it's probably just a process that uses audio output
[12:56] <jonah1980_2> is there any procedure to install it on a hardrive that will go into another box with different hardware?
[12:56] <Slart> christopher_l: check in apps/panel/global
[12:56] <jonah1980_2> i can't install it at work cos the cd drive is broken?
[12:56] <Victor```> jonah1980_2: depends what you mean by different hardware
[12:57] <Slart> christopher_l: there are probably some programs that do their own tool tips.. but I'm guessing that should kill most of them
[12:57] <jonah1980_2> Victor, well it might well have ati and mines got nvidia, different processors and motherboards etc etc
[12:57] <Victor```> different processors?
[12:57] <Victor```> as in?
[12:57] <rowanjl> Victor```: GrimWald I'm going to have to go back to windows, because I'm too tired to think about this. Thanks :)
[12:57] <christopher_l> Slart: It's off, but not all the tooltips
[12:58] <jonah1980_2> Victor, ah well mines a 64bit machine and work is 32bit but was planning on just installing 32bit edgy
[12:58] <Slart> christopher_l: yes.. I noticed.. well.. there might be more places to disable it... that was the one I knew about
[12:59] <Victor```> jonah1980_2: can't you put the good CD drive in the other computer
[01:00] <Victor```> someone here could also help you with putting the CD files on a 1 GB USB drive and booting from it
[01:00] <jonah1980_2> Victor, no unfortunately people at home need it, plus the boss doesn't want me messing around down at work, so i said i'd just bring hardrive home
[01:00] <mazinyer_Z> http://groups.msn.com/MARDELPLATABUENOSAIRESARGENTINA
[01:00] <Victor```> jonah1980_2: hmm... the CD drive in that machine is actually broken to where it can't read CDs?
[01:00] <Victor```> at all?
[01:01] <jonah1980_2> Victor, yup
[01:01] <Victor```> hmm.
[01:01] <Victor```> wait a second
[01:01] <jonah1980_2> Victor, it's just an old bust up machine, we only want dapper or edgy on so we can use it as a screensaver machine in the shop window going round all day with adverts which i can pendrive across as it's not networked up or anything
[01:02] <Victor```> oh
[01:02] <Victor```> I guess it might work
[01:03] <Victor```> since ubuntu installs a ton of drivers and loads all the necessary kernel modules at boot time
[01:03] <jonah1980_2> Victor, problem is suse on it's dead old and it's dual booting with windows, which we need to remove as we've put windows on a new machine as we no longer need to use it on this shop window box - so i just though whack a clean copy of ubuntu on there
[01:04] <Peebo> !libavifile
[01:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libavifile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:04] <Victor```> but quite frankly I believe putting a good drive in it temporarily would be a much, much better idea
[01:05] <mazinyer_Z> hola
[01:05] <mazinyer_Z> hey
[01:05] <mazinyer_Z> ??
[01:05] <seanj> hi mazinyer_Z
[01:05] <mazinyer_Z> hola
[01:07] <GuerrillaWon> Does anyone know where there is a working libgnutls amd64 deb?
[01:07] <jonah1980_2> Victor, well i guess it's worth a shot now i'm home with the drive an all
[01:07] <luca> luca
[01:07] <jonah1980_2> Victor, are my chances slim?
[01:07] <GuerrillaWon> All the links I follow seem to be dead, I think I'm missing something.
[01:07] <Victor```> jonah1980_2: I couldn't say
[01:08] <Jowi> what is the /srv directory for? I haven't seen it before
[01:08] <gen> can you please help in making my ubuntu as a server
[01:08] <Jowi> gen a server for what?
[01:09] <gen> thanks jovi, I'm trying to use as a internet server
[01:09] <Jowi> gen, again i need to ask. what type of server do you need to install? webserver, ftp server, ssh server...?
[01:10] <rusher> hello
[01:10] <Chromafil1> Does anybody know how to grant a user the ability to perform administrative tasks in Ubuntu so they can access the graphical admin tools?
[01:10] <gen> webserver and ftp server
[01:10] <luca> irc luca
[01:10] <jonah1980_2> has anyone in here ever pulled off installing ubuntu on a hardrive that will then be put in a new system that possibly has different ati/nvidia graphics card and other totally diff hardware?? any tips?
[01:10] <Jowi> Chromafil1, yes, add the user to the admin group
[01:11] <Chromafil1> Jowi, thanks,  will try this with terminal...
[01:11] <rusher> i did jonah
[01:11] <rusher> it worked perfectly
[01:11] <rusher> amd sempron 32bit to a amd 64 and vice versa
[01:12] <rusher> ati - nvidia
[01:12] <jonah1980_2> rusher, wow really?? i'm installing on an amd64 with nvidia and gonna put the drive in an intel ati box!! and not feeling like it's gonna work...
[01:12] <jonah1980_2> rusher, and other one 32bit!
[01:12] <rusher> it will not work unless your using the 386 kernel
[01:12] <gen> jowi
[01:13] <rusher> usually ubuntu keeps the old kernel and the new kernel
[01:13] <Jowi> just say exactly what you need help with gen
[01:14] <rusher> how come ubuntu is slower than debian
[01:14] <jonah1980_2> rusher, well i'm installing 32bit version of ubuntu, so will that be ok?
[01:14] <troll> bonjours y a t'il un francais sur ce chan
[01:14] <rusher> 32 bit to a 32 bit yeagh
[01:14] <Jowi> troll, va a #ubuntu-fr
[01:14] <rusher> use generic kernel or 386
[01:14] <jpjacobs> !fr>troll
[01:15] <troll> ok merci
[01:15] <Jowi> de rien
[01:15] <wayco> anybody have any idea what would cause all video players to suddenly stop displaying graphics and only give me the audio portion of the file?
[01:15] <rusher> and switch your video driver to vesa
[01:15] <rusher> codec problem i guess
[01:15] <Storkme> how can i synchronize my evolution mail client with one or more computers?
[01:15] <rusher> copy the data in the .evolution folder
[01:15] <Storkme> ok
[01:15] <rusher> thunderbird was easir, that is why I siwtchted
[01:15] <jonah1980_2> rusher, so when i take drive to work and fit it and try boot, will anything go wrong, will i have to do anything? the old machine at work even has an old serial monitor with a totally diff refresh rate etc...
[01:16] <rusher> you have to google the evolution thing
[01:16] <rusher> I did not have a problem
[01:16] <Storkme> how do i do it with thunderbird?
[01:16] <rusher> you might have eto reconfigure x.
[01:16] <saispo> hi, where i can find mozilla-sunbird for edgy ?
[01:17] <rusher> /home/yourname/.thunderbird/weirdname/Mail/Loalfolders
[01:17] <rusher> its actually .mozilla-thunderbird
[01:17] <rusher> copy all the files in the last folder
[01:17] <obstfliege> moin
[01:18] <rusher> your in debian 2
[01:18] <rusher> lol
[01:18] <rusher> good morning
[01:18] <Chromafile> Does anybody know how to allow new users to access system administration through the graphical tools in Ubuntu?
[01:18] <rusher> add them to /etc/sudoers
[01:18] <Chromafile> Tried adding the users to admin group - did ot work.
[01:18] <jonah1980_2> rusher, so as long as i get a prompt someone should be able to help me fix the graphics if there's problems? also the machine has no internet connection, so will be hard to install other drivers and stuff...
[01:19] <rusher> you should have the vesa driver installed already
[01:19] <rusher> anyone offering any Linux IT jobs?
[01:19] <un_operateur> Chromafile, usually only root has those privileges -- and members of the admin group can use sudo to become root -- so invoke those said utilities using sudo/gksudo
[01:20] <rusher> you have to be a sudoer to use sudo
[01:20] <rusher> you have to be in /etc/sudoers to use sudo
[01:20] <gen> alladin, can you help me in networking matters
[01:20] <un_operateur> rusher, yes, the admin group is a sudoers group
[01:21] <un_operateur> rusher, so members of that group can sudo
[01:21] <Chromafile> Rusher, should this work?  sudo adduser --group /etc/sudoers
[01:21] <rusher> anyone have etch installed
[01:21] <jonah1980_2> rusher, man that's awesome awesome awesome - you'd have no chance in hell if you're trying stuff like this on windows... the possibilities with linux are unreal
[01:21] <rusher> yup
[01:21] <gen> rusher, can you help me in networking
[01:21] <rusher> i had that problem with windows 98 back in the daay
[01:21] <rusher> sure
[01:21] <rusher> what is your question
[01:21] <cE_ManIEZ_Fs> alow
[01:21] <rusher> can anyone help me with debian etch
[01:22] <rusher> 'ood day mate
[01:22] <un_operateur> rusher, whats the debian issue?
[01:22] <Chromafile> Thanks Rusher, will give that a try - may be back in a few mins :)
[01:22] <rusher> my sound does not work
[01:22] <rusher> ok
[01:22] <gen> I'm a freelance webprogrammer, and would like to setup a the ubuntu as my server
[01:22] <stork> gen, good to know.
[01:22] <rusher> it has crappy quality and high pitch noises and then stops
[01:23] <un_operateur> rusher, configured alsa and ~/.asoundrc ?
[01:23] <rusher> gen , debian etch would be better
[01:23] <stork> rusher, what sound device?
[01:23] <rusher> onboard
[01:23] <wayco> anybody have any idea what would cause all video players to suddenly stop displaying graphics and only give me the audio portion of the file?
[01:23] <stork> what chipset, rusher ?
[01:23] <rusher> let me find it
[01:24] <un_operateur> !lamp
[01:24] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:24] <PDani> hi
[01:24] <PDani> how can i burn a bootable cd image to a dvd?
[01:24] <gen> rusher, what is debian etch
[01:25] <rusher> hda-intel nvidia corp MCP51 High Def
[01:25] <un_operateur> gen, it's a distro - like ubuntu edgy
[01:25] <rusher> debian etch is a linux distro . Ubuntu is based from Ubuntu
[01:25] <rusher> debian etch is a linux distro . Ubuntu is based from debian
[01:27] <gen> I would like my ubuntu to be a testing server for my web pages, LAMP to be exat
[01:27] <uniqueLikeYou> jonah1980_2: I installed debian on one pc and copied it to another pc with different hardware. After editing the boot loader and xfconfig most of the stuff worked fine.
[01:27] <rusher> you might want to start with a graphical version
[01:27] <rusher> regular ubuntu
[01:28] <rusher> can you survive in a shell environment
[01:28] <gen> he he he he, might start in graphical
[01:28] <gen> may last dos programming is pascal
[01:28] <gen> he he he
[01:28] <saispo> no mozilla-sunbird ubuntu packages for this times ?
[01:28] <rusher> install regular ubuntu then install apache or apache2
[01:29] <rusher> ice weasel!
[01:29] <gen> apache, MySQL, PHP
[01:29] <un_operateur> saispo, did you search packages.ubuntu.com ?
[01:29] <rusher> you can install all those easily after a installation
[01:29] <saispo> un_operateur: yep not found or my glasses is not good ;)
[01:29] <asph> hiya there
[01:29] <saispo> rusher: iceweasel is firefox no ?
[01:30] <rusher> yes saispo
[01:30] <rusher> ice weasel is the GNU Firefox
[01:30] <un_operateur> saispo, yes and no
[01:30] <rusher> just released for debian ETch Testing
[01:30] <rusher> and Ice Dove
[01:30] <markus_nagler> Anyone know how to persuade Nautilus to display folder size in MB instead of number of items?
[01:30] <gen> i think my ubuntu version is regular only
[01:30] <wayco> anybody have any idea what would cause all video players to suddenly stop displaying graphics and only give me the audio portion of the file?
[01:30] <rusher> debian made changes and mozilla said do not call it firefox if you changed some code
[01:30] <rusher> because it is not firefox\
[01:31] <rusher> video codec problem wayco, I have that problem porting video from windows - Linux and vice versa
[01:31] <rusher> and from my camera~
[01:31] <luca> come entro
[01:31] <gen> were can I download the apache
[01:32] <gen> for my ubuntu
[01:32] <wayco>  <rusher> where would i start to fis this problem?
[01:32] <rusher> synaptic, ubuntus program getter
[01:32] <un_operateur> saispo, you can always install sunbird from the binary tarballs -- sounds like ubuntu doesnt have it in the repos
[01:32] <rusher> install w32codecs
[01:32] <rusher> or win32codec
[01:32] <rusher> try avidemux to re-render video
[01:32] <rusher> possibly qdvdauthor
[01:33] <rusher> i ended up with videos with no sound =*
[01:33] <wayco>  <rusher> i am sure they are already installed ... it was all good yesterday
[01:33] <rusher> when I watched porn, it would not show the wma video, only audio. Avi and mpeg would play perfectly
[01:34] <Rookie-1> !freenx
[01:34] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[01:34] <xerophyte> 20 Partner Points ?? how do you get the partners points with ubuntu to be an  Affiliates
[01:34] <xerophyte> ?
[01:35] <wayco>  <rusher> i am getting no video for any file type
[01:35] <rusher> did  you try multiple players ?
[01:36] <wayco>  <rusher> both vln and movie player ... same results
[01:36] <un_operateur> wayco, try running your players from the command line -- they might spit out valuable debugging info that'll help you troubleshoot
[01:36] <timmae> !video
[01:36] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
 have done ... starts with no error ... same result
[01:37] <rusher> delete the profiles in your home directory and try watching again
[01:37] <rusher> this will start things from scratch
[01:37] <timmae> !flash
[01:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
 delete the profiles in your home directory?   not sure what you mean
[01:38] <un_operateur> wayco, I'd try reinstalling the codecs if i were you
[01:39] <rusher> delete .vlc and .kaffeine in your /home/yourname
[01:39] <mazinyer_Z> http://groups.msn.com/MARDELPLATABUENOSAIRESARGENTINA
 and then reinstall them?
[01:39] <rusher> when you launch a program. it makes a hidden folder filled with your settings and data
[01:39] <mseney> join #debian
[01:39] <mseney> oops..sorry
[01:39] <rusher> try just deleting the profiles firsst
[01:40] <mazinyer_Z> ???
[01:40] <zhe> hi all
[01:40] <un_operateur> hey
[01:40] <zhe> does anyone have an idea how I could set up filesharing between a ubuntu and windows machine in the same network?
[01:40] <rusher> i do zhe
[01:41] <zhe> yeah?
[01:41] <rusher> isntall smbfs and samba
[01:41] <un_operateur> !samba | zhe
[01:41] <ubotu> zhe: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:41] <Rookie-1> !se
[01:41] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[01:41] <zhe> thanks
[01:41] <rusher> !alsa | rusher
[01:41] <ubotu> rusher: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[01:42] <rusher> dam =(
[01:42] <un_operateur> rusher, you can query the bot privately -- /query ubotu
[01:42] <rusher> oh lol
 i just moved the .vlc folder out of path .. tried an avi .... new .vlc folder created .... same result(audio, no video)
[01:43] <sebs> jo hi
[01:43] <sebs> somone can tell me which package i heve to use for getting mysql 4(!) for edgy t.  ?
[01:43] <un_operateur> wayco, purge-remove w32codecs (and other codecs packages you may have installed) .. purge /usr/lib/codecs -- and then reinstall your codecs
[01:44] <sebs> to b. exactly 4.1x
[01:44] <un_operateur> sebs, as long as you know the right version number -- sudo aptitude install mysql=4.1 ..
[01:45] <scoob_deb> is there someone available to tolerate new user questions for a few minutes?
[01:45] <rusher> and it will be updated automatically with update-manager right ?
[01:45] <rusher> question scoob?
[01:45] <sebs> not using apt-get install for that ?
[01:45] <scoob_deb> i want to use opera web browser but it's asking what kind of ubuntu I have
[01:46] <un_operateur> sebs, errm, i'm not sure if apt-get handles that syntax and its just better to use aptitude
[01:46] <scoob_deb> was 6.10 the latest version and if so how do i tell if that is what I have?
[01:46] <rusher> opera sucks btw
[01:46] <scoob_deb> oh it does?
[01:46] <un_operateur> scoob_deb, cat /etc/release or cat /etc/issue
[01:46] <scoob_deb> i have firefox installed
[01:46] <sebs> okay. Why is that so ? mnaybe because its easier possible to select versions with aptitude ?
[01:47] <un_operateur> sebs, well, for one, aptitude handles dependencies better and it remembers software installed and removes packages that are no longer used -- moreoever it handles almost all apt-get commands identically
[01:48] <rusher> how does it compare with synaptic
[01:48] <rusher> un_operateur  how does it compare with synaptic
[01:48] <joshinho> Hi
[01:48] <un_operateur> rusher, it's a command-line and ncurses application -- so it has no gui -- it does as well as synaptic, if not better
[01:48] <joshinho> I have a problem instlling ubuntu
[01:49] <joshinho> when I get the the part of the installation where Im asked to partition
[01:49] <joshinho> it freezes
[01:49] <rusher> have you tried multiple cd's ?
[01:49] <joshinho> does anyone know what I can do to get round this?
[01:49] <joshinho> i've tried one
[01:49] <joshinho> the one I buned myself
[01:50] <joshinho> onto DVD
[01:50] <joshinho> burned
[01:50] <shack> hey guys, I have small problem with amule and firewall. I've already opened ports 4662 tcp, 4672 and 4665 udp and forwarted port 4662 to my amule computer but still I cant connect to servers
[01:50] <shack> any suggestions?
[01:50] <rusher> waste of dvd...........try it again on a different cd
[01:50] <un_operateur> joshinho, I havent installed or used an ubuntu desktop CD .. but there's a way to verify if the CD was burnt properly, have you done so?
[01:50] <joshinho> oh no I haven't
[01:51] <joshinho> guess i will do that
[01:51] <joshinho> thanks
[01:51] <rusher> also...
[01:51] <rusher> nm
[01:51] <joshinho> ok
[01:51] <un_operateur> joshinho, if i were you, i'd use an alternate CD and do things the conventional way
[01:51] <rusher> cdefrag the windows drive
[01:51] <joshinho> thankyou all
[01:52] <rusher> I found out about the alternative cd the hard way
[01:52] <rusher> dam raid
[01:52] <joshinho> whats the conventional way?
[01:52] <sebs> un_operator: it still installs the 5.x server .. even if i name the exact version number
[01:52] <un_operateur> joshinho, booting the CD and performing the install without first going into a live desktop
[01:52] <joshinho> yeh thats what I do
[01:53] <joshinho> :)
[01:53] <rusher> you use the blue and red install ?
[01:53] <un_operateur> joshinho, the problem with the live desktop is it hides valuable console messages if they are spit out
[01:53] <un_operateur> rusher, you mean the ncurses installer?
[01:53] <rusher> what is this ncurses I keep hearing about
[01:53] <mooey> !ncurses
[01:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ncurses - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:54] <mooey> :-(
[01:54] <rusher> !ncurses
[01:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ncurses - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:54] <rusher> !ncurses | rusher
[01:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ncurses - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:54] <mooey> its a library for making console applications easier
[01:54] <un_operateur> rusher, an example of an ncurses interface is that of midnight commander or aptitude -- try it out at the console
[01:54] <rusher> oh
[01:54] <rusher> that has been around for years
[01:54] <un_operateur> rusher, very much similar to that of a BIOS interface -- but from a command line
[01:55] <abhinay> how to label a ext3 drive ? i have tried :  sudo e2label /dev/hda6 Movies , but i am not getting 'Movies' as the name of the drive instead it shows hda6 at my desktop , Any Suggestions ?
[01:56] <rusher> right click and choose rename
[01:56] <un_operateur> abhinay, I don't use nautilus/gnome -- but there may be a way to do that using the properties of the volume -- right click > properties > somewhere
[01:56] <rusher> or make an original ICON
[01:56] <rusher> what do you use un_operateur
[01:57] <abhinay> It can't be renamed , becoz it is a drive
[01:57] <abhinay> not a launcher
[01:57] <rusher> 6.06 came with a disk admin tool
[01:57] <rusher> made it really easy to manage disks
[01:57] <abhinay> rusher, whats that ?
[01:57] <rusher> system- admin disk admin
[01:57] <savvas> I made a custom bash script with wget, and i get this: /home/forger/rapid-: Unsupported scheme.
[01:58] <savvas> what does it mean?
[01:58] <rusher> Edgy Eft discontinued diskadmin
[01:58] <un_operateur> savvas, maybe you are wgetting something thats not a valid URI
[01:58] <mooey> savvas, you trying to wget a protocol that isn't valid. use only http and ftp
[01:59] <savvas> un_operateur: is the first parameter in bash $1 or $0 ?:\
[01:59] <savvas> hm $1 that was my mistake :P
[01:59] <un_operateur> savvas, errm, i think $0
[02:00] <sedrake> how do i install Kernel Source for my running kernel?
[02:00] <savvas> no $0 returns the shell meh
[02:00] <savvas> that's why i was getting the error hehe
[02:00] <savvas> thanks for your help :)
[02:00] <un_operateur> savvas, ahh, shows i dont use bash for shell scripting :)
[02:03] <tosmo> just installed ubuntu on an older machine. trying to dialin with an (at compatible) modem doesn't work. unfortunately ubuntu isn't exactly verbose about what it does/doesen't, and on the 6.10 dvd there are no other dialin tools despite what ubuntu offers in the networking settings. helpfully the help tells me where to look up on the internet which i cannot reach..
[02:05] <j0sh0> hi could someone help me with my Xorg.0.log output and getting my intel 855GM video cards working properly?
[02:05] <sebs> hmmm
[02:05] <jonah1980_2> rusher,hi again getting errors and wont' let me install ubuntu - dunno if hardrive corrupt or what. trying now to zero the disk with ubcd
[02:06] <Toge> hello
[02:07] <un_operateur> j0sh0, did the card ever work before at all? whats the log saying, just give us a gist
[02:08] <un_operateur> sebs, ahh sorry, i read your post before and meant to reply
[02:08] <sebs> :)
[02:08] <un_operateur> sebs, you could try manually installing version 4 from the archives
[02:09] <un_operateur> s/archives/repositories/
[02:09] <j0sh0> un_operatuer: yeah it could display 1024x768 in winxp. the log says "Not using mode "1024x768" (no mode of this name)"
[02:10] <sebs> hmm ... strated to use ubuntu today.. so you might be a bit slower with me ;)
[02:10] <dorel__> is it normal to have both artsd and esd running?
[02:10] <j0sh0> un_operauer: and then reverts to 800x600: "Virtual size is 800x600 (pitch 1024)
[02:11] <un_operateur> sebs, ok, sec
[02:11] <un_operateur> j0sh0, can you get to a desktop or not?
[02:11] <Lorvija> heya. how much does ubuntu need space on hd to work fine?
[02:11] <Kapsel_> Hi, I installed a package (freeradius) on my system and did some changes in the config files in /etc/freeradius. I would like to revert to the original files, is there any way I can force a reinstall of the package and then overwrite the files I made changes to?
[02:11] <j0sh0> un_operatuer: but i know the mode is there - it shows it in the log and in "915resolution -l"
[02:11] <jpjacobs> Lorvija, at least 2Gb
[02:11] <cold> why does flash work for suse and not ubuntu?
[02:12] <Lorvija> jpjacobs is that kinda "minimal installation" or does that include programs too...
[02:12] <j0sh0> un_operatuer:yeah i have a desktop but it wont allow me to change to 1024 res, very frustrating!
[02:12] <un_operateur> j0sh0, have you tried via gnome-display-properties ?
[02:13] <jpjacobs> that's a standard install . if you want it smaller, you can use xubuntu or fluxbuntu (dunno if the lastone is correct)
[02:13] <un_operateur> Kapsel_, sudo sh -c "aptitude purge freeradius; aptitude install freeradius"
[02:13] <j0sh0> un_operatuer: i've tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, if thats what you mean?
[02:13] <nol13> hi, i have a dvd image that is in a VIDEO_TS folder with a bunch of .VOB files and a few others, how do i burn this to play in a dvd player? do i just make a data dvd with k3b with the VIDEO_TS folder?
[02:13] <Kapsel_> un_operateur: super, thanks!
[02:13] <Lorvija> jpjacobs okay.. just thinking of buying enough ram and installing it on it (:
[02:14] <un_operateur> j0sh0, errm, no, try this at your command line - gnome-display-properties
[02:14] <un_operateur> Kapsel_, you might like to make backups of config files next time -- try !bkp (i think thats what it's called)
[02:14] <jonah1980_2> un_operateur, hey good to see you, you've helped me so much in past! i know saying feisty in the edgy room is a dirty word, but i don't suppose you have a feisty box do you? just i've got a few usb issues... scanners and printers not working for me on two different machines
[02:15] <Kapsel_> un_operateur: okay. I just made alot of changes to the files to get something working, just to find out that it was a problem elsewhere. And when i fixed it elsewhere, FreeRadius was b0rken.
[02:15] <un_operateur> jonah1980_2, I did run feisty for a month or so -- but not since Jan the 1st .. whats the issue
[02:15] <un_operateur> ?
[02:15] <j0sh0> un_operatuer: yeah, thats where it wont allow me to change the resolution! i've even set the only resolution of the defaultdepth to 1024x768 in the xorg.conf modes line
[02:16] <un_operateur> j0sh0, so you did edit the xorg.conf file manually at some point?
[02:16] <nol13> anyone know anything about burning dvd images?
[02:17] <_raphael_> is there a repo with moodbar in amarok for ubuntu?
[02:18] <un_operateur> j0sh0, maybe this might help -- sudo dpkg-reconfigure --priority low xorg
[02:18] <jonah1980_2> un_operateur, well with printers there's a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/77464  - so everyone is having to do this command everyboot to use the printer!  as far as why scanners aren't working not sure, i thought it might be related somehow but dunno, i've got some photos i need to scan and can't do it though, can only get a preview!
[02:18] <j0sh0> un_operatuer:yeah i've played around with it manually, tried to use dpkg-reconfigure, none of them will allow me to use 1024x768 in display properties and i reckon it has something to do with what i pointed out in the log file... i'm just not sure why
[02:19] <j0sh0> un_operatuer: what does the low xorg priority do?
[02:20] <un_operateur> j0sh0, just reconfigures xorg but asks you about all configuration questions the installer script might have
[02:20] <un_operateur> j0sh0, after doing that -- try the same with the xorg-server package
[02:21] <un_operateur> jonah1980_2, so which command did you have to type out every boot -- the adduser one?
[02:21] <sedrake> how do I install kernel source for my running kernel?
[02:21] <jonah1980_2> un_operateur, well everytime i need to print having to do: sudo usermod -aG plugdev cupsys    and then restart cups and then printers work
[02:22] <jonah1980_2> un_operateur, is there anything similar do you think i could do for scanning?
[02:22] <bullgard1> What is the English name of the GNOME applet in the far upper right?
[02:23] <sebs> irc://efnet.demon.co.uk
[02:23] <brice> hello
[02:23] <un_operateur> sedrake, find out what kernel headers are available -- aptitude search `uname -r` .. and then install them -- sudo aptitude install linux-headers....
[02:23] <brice> i search help i try to make dual screen and i don't arrived
[02:23] <brice> here is my xorg.comf
[02:23] <brice> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/737/
[02:23] <|Sora|> can you turn off "sudo" ?
[02:23] <Slart> Is there a difference between doing sudo dosomething and sudo su  , dosomething ?
[02:23] <|Sora|> the requirement for sudo
[02:24] <un_operateur> Slart, sudo su is redundant -- use sudo -s or sudo -i instead
[02:24] <Slart> I mean in the way the command is run?
[02:24] <un_operateur> jonah1980_2, errm, all i can think of is that it's a bug -- maybe you can have one of your init scripts perform those command automatically
[02:24] <un_operateur> jonah1980_2, did you say your scanners work but not properly?
[02:25] <Lynoure> |Sora|: yes, but why do you want to?
[02:25] <jonah1980_2> un_operateur, yeah weird thing is it's previewing on my 32bit box
[02:25] <Slart> well.. the reason I'm asking is because when I try to change the rights to the alsa part of /proc (/proc/asound) by doing "sudo chmod a+rw -R /proc/asound" I get permission denied.. but if I do sudo su and then run the same command it's ok
[02:25] <|Sora|> I is possible to turn off the requirement for "sudo" ?
[02:26] <sebs> un_operator: are you still with me ;)
[02:26] <Sir_Penguin> Hi all! Wireless help again :p However, I *have* made progress. I download wifi-scanner (google will find it as first item) which tells me that it *is* connected.
[02:26] <Lynoure> |Sora|: requirement for "sudo"? What do you mean?
[02:26] <Sir_Penguin> However, I also have the built in networking tools setup (although not working) and I think that they *may* be conflicting with each other.
[02:27] <|Sora|> Lynoure, the need for permissin to open a file
[02:27] <Lynoure> |Sora|: Yes, but with some files it is majorly unwise
[02:27] <Sir_Penguin> Is this a possibility and if so would I be able to disable the built-in networking tools just for this?
[02:27] <Lynoure> |Sora|: the command you are looking for is chmod, see  man chmod
[02:27] <jonah1980_2> un_operateur, so i can hit preview and it shows in xsane and then when i press scan it says it's doing it but the scanner doesn't do anything and i just get a black image. but on 64bit box i don't even get a preview or anything
[02:27] <kenthomson> Can someone help me with cdemu?
[02:28] <un_operateur> jonah1980_2, errm, maybe the scanner package (xsane) needs configuring/tweaking to get it working properly -- sad thing is i never used a scanner on linux before -- so, have a look around in the app and read the doc files maybe
[02:28] <kenthomson> ken@ken-ubuntu:~$ cdemu -u 0
[02:28] <kenthomson> [Errno 16]  Device or resource busy
[02:28] <kenthomson> How do i dismount the virtual cd?
[02:28] <gen> un_operateur, please help in installing apache
[02:28] <avalon__> Can I encrypt my hard drives to prevent someone from being able to view them if they're not in my computer?
[02:28] <Sir_Penguin> kenthomson, do you mean livecd?
[02:29] <un_operateur> kenthomson, you need to terminate all open files that may be accessing the volume -- lsof | grep cdvolumename
[02:29] <gen> I've already download the httpd-2.2.3
[02:29] <Sir_Penguin> Okay, I think I'm totally off lol :p
[02:29] <kenthomson> Sir_Penguin, you know about cdemu?
[02:29] <Sir_Penguin> No, sorry, I thought that it was something else.
[02:29] <mwe> avalon__: you can encrypt a file system in linux. I'm not into the details, though
[02:29] <Sir_Penguin> Don't worry.
[02:29] <jonah1980_2> un_operateur, ok thanks for your help... i didn't think i'd need my scanner either or i neednt of upgraded! oh well
[02:29] <kenthomson> un_operateur, no-open files are acessing that volume through the GUI
[02:29] <Lynoure> avalon__: If you do not need all hardrives be encrypted, just some parts, look into truecrypt.
[02:29] <un_operateur> gen, errm, why dont you just install via synaptic/aptitude - sudo aptitude install apache2
[02:29] <avalon__> I'd have to have the entire drives encrypted
[02:30] <kenthomson> un_operateur, could you please explain this "volume -- lsof | grep cdvolumename"
[02:30] <un_operateur> kenthomson, that doesnt mean that there are no processing accessing the volume otherwise, does it? :)
[02:30] <adaptr> avalon__: there are several utilities to accomplish this
[02:30] <mwe> avalon__: you cannot encrypt a drive
[02:30] <kenthomson> un_operateur, no they may be accessing them
[02:30] <Sir_Penguin> Has anyone here used the wifi-radar program?
[02:30] <mwe> avalon__: you can encrypt the file system on it
[02:30] <The_StalLion> hi, can anyone help? im trying to change the default placing for desktop icons ...when inserting a usb pen, for example, the icon appears top-left desktop ...is it possible to change that to top-right?
[02:30] <Sir_Penguin> Foudn here
[02:30] <sebs> ok, so  ym question again: how do i (ubuntu newbie) get a mysql 4.1 on my ubuntu edgy theft. all tries with the package managers got me version 5
[02:30] <Sir_Penguin> http://wifi-radar.systemimager.org/
[02:30] <Lynoure> avalon__: /boot and /bin and all? Why? :) (I'm curious)
[02:31] <avalon__> Well.. I just need it to where if someone steals my drive, they cant see anything useful on it
[02:31] <kenthomson> un_operateur, Is it possible that if i mount a .cue file using cdemu, cdemu mounts them incorrectly/due to a bug in cdemu, the contents of the mounted file are corrupted?
[02:31] <avalon__> I've got some very confidential files on it
[02:31] <Lynoure> avalon__: for 99% of the users something like truecrypt is well enough, and damn easy
[02:31] <un_operateur> kenthomson, lsof lists open files -- grep filters output -- so together you're trying to find what processing might have files on that volume open
[02:31] <mwe> avalon__: encrypt the file systems on it then ;)
[02:31] <adaptr> avalon__: look into cryptfs, also the possibility to encrypt a loop-mounted "partition"
[02:32] <avalon__> Can truecrypt do the entire partition?
[02:32] <kenthomson> un_operateur, ok, and about the second question? :)
[02:32] <Lynoure> avalon__: it can make a virtual partition that it encrypts
[02:32] <saispo> how can i build a debian package for ubunutu ? i have the .dsc, the diff and the orig packages
[02:32] <un_operateur> kenthomson, afaik, .cue files are just lists, plain-old-text-files -- so i dont think they can be mounted, no -- but their .bin counter-parts can be mounted
[02:32] <mwe> avalon__: as I said you don't encrypt devices or partitions. you encrypt the file system ;)
[02:33] <kenthomson> un_operateur, yeah i mean the .bin/.cue pair? Can cdemu mount them incorrectly so as to the contents on them may be corrupted?
[02:33] <avalon__> Because what I want to do if it's possible is make it to where if someone tries to hack my login password, after three attempts, the drives get formatted.. I know I"m paranoid, but if you knew these files, you'd understand.
[02:33] <adaptr> avalon__: encrypting your system partition isn't all that useful, unless you're uber-paranoid; encrypt your data files instead
[02:33] <gen> un_operateur, this is the message I get when I entered the sudo - aptitude install apache2E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail able)
[02:33] <gen> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc ess using it?
[02:33] <The_StalLion> hi, can anyone help? im trying to change the default placing for desktop icons ...when inserting a usb pen, for example, the icon appears top-left desktop ...is it possible to change that to top-right?
[02:33] <un_operateur> gen . sudo  :)
[02:33] <Lynoure> avalon__: and you can even hide encrypted virtual partition within other one, so that if they have access to you and your disk, you can maybe mislead them from torturing you for the passphrase.
[02:33] <kenthomson> un_operateur, i mean, can there be a bug in cdemu wherein the file that it mounts becomes corrupted?
[02:34] <vdepizzol> anyone know a stop-motion draw animation app for Linux?
[02:34] <mwe> gen: close synaptic first if it's open
[02:34] <adaptr> avalon__: so what if they try to hack your login a thousand times ? if they have access to your hard drive they can just read it... you need to encrypt the data partitions to prevent damage from physical theft
[02:34] <gen> how can I close it
[02:34] <un_operateur> kenthomson, errm, i dont know how cdemu works -- but it shouldnt corrupt files .. maybe the bin file was already corrupt to begin with
[02:35] <mwe> gen: click the close button
[02:35] <kenthomson> un_operateur, " lsof | grep iso" (iso is the name of mounting folder), gave me four entries, now how do i stop them so that i can unmount the .bin
[02:35] <un_operateur> kenthomson, you could just extract the contents of the .bin file if you wanted, why mount?
[02:35] <avalon__>  So by encrypting the partitions, if someone stole the drive, they couldn't make head or tails from it?
[02:35] <gen> I'm in the terminal. :(
[02:35] <kenthomson> un_operateur, i have mounted it so that i can see and it behaves as a CD, that is how it was intended to be
[02:35] <mwe> gen: but synaptic is open in an X session?
[02:35] <un_operateur> gen, sudo aptitude install apache2  --- dont forget sudo
[02:35] <adaptr> gen: then kill the process, or better yet, remove the lock file
[02:36] <un_operateur> kenthomson, killall processname
[02:36] <Lynoure> avalon__: true, unless you chose a passphrase that is so weak they can guess or bruteforce it.
[02:36] <The_StalLion> hi, can anyone help? im trying to change the default placing for desktop icons ...when inserting a usb pen, for example, the icon appears top-left desktop ...is it possible to change that to top-right?
[02:36] <mwe> adaptr: is that a good idea if it's locked because another program is using it?
[02:36] <avalon__> well that certainly isn't the case. I'm using pams to make sure that I don't have a weak pass. It's a key.
[02:36] <adaptr> Lynoure: isn't it possible to use a public key with a passphrase ?
[02:37] <adaptr> mwe: he says he's in a terminal, and I am assuming he is *not* running X, or else he could just close synaptic
[02:37] <kenthomson> un_operateur, this is the first of the four entries from "lsof | grep iso" : bash       2678        ken  cwd       DIR      254,0      2048       2816 /media/iso
[02:37] <kenthomson> , What am i supposed to do?
[02:37] <avalon__> That's what I have adaptr. It's ran from a USB key that requires the drive to be in or the comptuer won't login
[02:37] <adaptr> mwe: so the only processes running that could hold the lock should be defunct or orphaned
[02:37] <Lynoure> adaptr: Sorry, I'm lacking context for your guestion. If you meant that if he leaks his passphrase. Well, it's all for nothing then.
[02:37] <mwe> adaptr: ther could be an active X session on the same machine
[02:38] <un_operateur> kenthomson, close the bash session firstly :) open up a new one and try again -- may work
[02:38] <adaptr> Lynoure: no, what I mean is that witrh a public key and passphrase system, the passphrase alone is worthless - an attacker also needs the actual key, which makes it doubly difficult
[02:38] <adaptr> mwe: then he could just switch to it
[02:38] <un_operateur> mwe, adaptr i think gen's working through ssh on a server
[02:38] <kenthomson> un_operateur, what am i supposed to kill? "killall <what comes here>"?
[02:38] <Lynoure> adaptr: but if the files are as sensitive as he says, they can get all that from him at gunpoint.
[02:39] <adaptr> un_operateur: then killing synaptic would be the way to go
[02:39] <mwe> adaptr: if he's logged in through ssh he do that
[02:39] <un_operateur> kenthomson, errm, ok if you like suicide -- killall bash
[02:39] <un_operateur> adaptr, errm, synaptic on an X-less machine??
[02:39] <Lynoure> adaptr: the setup sounds like he carries also the key with him physically always, not much safer than not having one if it is always near the laptop
[02:39] <adaptr> Lynoure: anybody can get that in any case whatsoever - we have to assume that whatever's in the files is also in his own head
[02:39] <kenthomson> un_operateur, na, what am i supposed to kill so that, i am able to unmount the cdemu's .bin? I gave a sample output, there are four more that appear on "lsof | grep iso"
[02:40] <mwe> gen: ps -e|grep synapic, does that return anything?
[02:40] <adaptr> Lynoure: physical danger is generally not regarded a significant factor, as a computer can hardly protect you from that
[02:40] <Lynoure> adaptr: Actually then I'd recommend just keeping it in his head. :)
[02:40] <adaptr> Lynoure: unless you can swing it real hard :)
[02:40] <un_operateur> kenthomson, i think the first field in the output of lsof is the process name -- you killall a process name
[02:40] <kenthomson> un_operateur, ok :) thank you for all the help, that was really prompt :)
[02:41] <kenthomson> HAPPY UBUNT-ing!
[02:41] <un_operateur> ha ha, likewise
[02:41] <gen> mwe, okay guys working on it. he he he
[02:41] <ltibor65> Hi guys! I want to connect my laptop to my desktop computer with UTP crossover cable. Both computers have Ubuntu 6.06 as OS. How can I configure the the network to share files between the computers without to destroy my working Internet ADSL connection ?
[02:42] <Lynoure> adaptr: actually, having a system that adds to deniability (like encrypted partition hidden inside another one) can help a good deal there. But I have luckily never been in the situation to test how far goons go
[02:42] <The_StalLion> hi, can anyone help? im trying to change the default placing for desktop icons ...when inserting a usb pen, for example, the icon appears top-left desktop ...is it possible to change that to top-right?
[02:42] <adaptr> ltibor65: how is the network connected to the internet ?
[02:42] <finalbeta> How does md5sums get created inside the control.tar.gz of debian packages?
[02:42] <mwe> gen: if you kill synaptic from the terminal it will probably leave the lock but in that case you can safely remove the lock file aferwards
[02:42] <kenthomson> hoa so many questions?
[02:42] <adaptr> Lynoure: true. but whenevr dealing with goons it is safer - and a lot cheaper in the long run - to just hire your own :)
[02:43] <un_operateur> finalbeta, it's probably the md5sum of all files inside the .deb not of the .deb itself
[02:43] <mwe> finalbeta: someone ran md5sum I guess
[02:43] <ltibor65> adaptr, With adsl modem
[02:43] <gen> mwe, this is the message she gave. ERROR: List of session leaders OR effective group IDs was invalid.
[02:43] <Lynoure> adaptr: I think so too =)
[02:43] <mwe> gen: what gave you that?
[02:43] <adaptr> ltibor65: yes, but *how* are the computers connected to it ?
[02:43] <mwe> gen: ps?
[02:43] <gen> the terminal
[02:43] <mwe> gen: typing ps -e?
[02:44] <finalbeta> un_operateur, mwe , yes , it's from all files inside the package, yet it's done recursive, can't find something that does it inside md5sum. And wouldn't wanna manually run it on all files.
[02:44] <finalbeta> mwe, great answer btw. thnx.
[02:44] <adaptr> finalbeta: it is run over the tar file, obviously
[02:44] <jrib> finalbeta: control.tar.gz? where is that, what package?
[02:44] <finalbeta> it's part of every .deb file.
[02:45] <mwe> gen: please elaborate ;)
[02:45] <gen> it shows  the PID TTY and TIME CMD
[02:45] <adub> svn command doesnt work when i run it  what package do i need to have this command
[02:45] <finalbeta> control.tar.gz and data.tar.gz
[02:45] <un_operateur> finalbeta, you mean the control file -- not control.tar.gz right?
[02:45] <Lorvija> heya. I'd like to seed several kubuntu/ubuntu images but i have a little problem with ctorrent/bandwith management... ctorrent currently lets only control one instance at a time... but i can't limit all ctorrent instances to use less than xxx kb/s... Any ideas how to do this or ideas for better commandline program?
[02:45] <adub> svn checkout http://
[02:45] <adaptr> finalbeta: it is built into dpkg
[02:45] <adub> what package do i need to have svn command work??
[02:45] <mwe> gen: typing ps -e|grep synaptic didn't return anything or what? I don't quite follow
[02:45] <adaptr> !svn | adub
[02:45] <ubotu> adub: svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[02:45] <Savage-{> anybody know how to open up an rpm and manually place the files?
[02:45] <finalbeta> un_operateur, no, the control file is named, control, this file is named md5sum inside control.tar.gz
[02:46] <finalbeta> adaptr, thnx.
[02:46] <mwe> adub: subversion
[02:46] <kate___> hey
[02:46] <jrib> finalbeta: do you mean the .dsc file?
[02:46] <adub> thanks mwe
[02:46] <un_operateur> Savage-{, rpm2cpio rpmfile.rpm | cpio    i think
[02:46] <Savage-{> cool thx
[02:46] <tim167> Gimp question: how do I move a layer on top of another one instead of below it ? (the up and down arrows in the layers dialog are inactive...) thanks!
[02:46] <adaptr> #gimp ?
[02:46] <ltibor65> adaptr, only the laptop is connected to Internet with Ethernet UTP, I will connect the two computers to each other and then not connect to Internet.
[02:46] <finalbeta> jrib, no, but I'm probably going about building this the wrong. way, pretty much extracting a .deb file to see how I should build one for my own java program.
[02:47] <mnoir> Savage-{: alien would cvt to .deb and allow you to manage properly
[02:47] <finalbeta> The ubuntu packaging guide is no help at all.
[02:47] <gen> ps -e, where can I get the next to e? he he he
[02:47] <adaptr> ltibor65: and you're asking how you can still be connected to the internet ? I'd say.. not
[02:47] <Savage-{> alien sux
[02:47] <jrib> finalbeta: after reading that one, read through  the debian new maintainers guide
[02:47] <Savage-{> I haven't ever gotten a package to work right with that
[02:47] <mwe> Savage-{: I have
[02:47] <gen> mwe, ps -e, where can I get the symbol next to e?
[02:47] <mwe> Savage-{: many times
[02:47] <Savage-{> I tried the deb option
[02:47] <mnoir> Savage-{: well that makes one of you :)
[02:47] <Savage-{> and it failed
[02:47] <mwe> gen: the pipe? (|)
[02:48] <tim167> adaptr: #gimp = kinda slow ...
[02:48] <adaptr> finalbeta: you build and manipulate .deb files with dpkg; you never assemble them by hand
[02:48] <Savage-{> alient is notorious for not being perfect
[02:48] <un_operateur> finalbeta, afaik, control.tar.gz ecompasses control and md5sums -- control contains the info about the package and md5sums the sums of every other file inside data.tar.gz
[02:48] <Savage-{> alient
[02:48] <adaptr> tim167: no problem, it was just a suggestion.. if there are people there, they would tend to know more about it
[02:48] <Savage-{> alien
[02:48] <gen> yes
[02:48] <gen> yes?
[02:48] <mwe> Savage-{: I see. I never noticed
[02:48] <mwe> gen: us keyboard?
[02:49] <Savage-{> it is a vmware package
[02:49] <gen> yes
[02:49] <mwe> gen: well I have a danish keyboard.
[02:49] <mwe> anyone where is the pipe (|) located on a us keyboard?
[02:49] <adaptr> mwe: above the enter key, usually
[02:50] <ltibor65> adaptr, not this, I am asking how can I set the connect between two computers with cross over cable for file sharing.
[02:50] <gen> is there any other way] 
[02:50] <mwe> gen: adaptr says it's usually above the enter key
[02:50] <un_operateur> finalbeta, if you're out to build your own package -- this helps loads - http://people.debian.org/~jaldhar/make_package1.html
[02:50] <finalbeta> thank you.
[02:50] <adaptr> ltibor65: "set the connect" ? no idea what you mean, but if yo mean you want to set up TCP/IP between them - just assign each machine a static IP in the range 192.168.0.x
[02:50] <Savage-{> mwe: let me try it again
[02:51] <mwe> Savage-{: sudo alien blah.rpm
[02:51] <gen> okay, i'll try it again
[02:51] <adaptr> ltibor65: nothing more is needed, no gateway, or whatever - just an IP in the same range
[02:51] <mwe> gen: ;)
[02:51] <Savage-{> yeah I went to /tmp and typed alient ~/Desktop/VMWarexxx.rpm
[02:51] <gen> yes, i get it
[02:51] <Savage-{> alien damn it
[02:51] <mwe> Savage-{: heh ;)
[02:51] <gen> i'll try to execute it again
[02:51] <mwe> gen: go ahead
[02:52] <gen> tnxs guys
[02:52] <mwe> gen: ps -e|grep synaptic
[02:52] <ltibor65> adaptr, and then will one computer see the files of other?
[02:52] <adaptr> ltibor65: if you want some flexibility with that, I suggest you set the static IP as alternative for both machines, so you can still get an IP form the modem when you plug that in - but a 5-port switch costs about $20, so plan to get that ASAP
[02:52] <adaptr> ltibor65: that depends - *how* do you want to share files ?
[02:53] <Savage-{> ls
[02:53] <gen> mwe, i enter the command
[02:53] <Savage-{> whoops hehe
[02:53] <jrib> finalbeta: you should be looking at source packages btw not the binary deb produced
[02:53] <mwe> gen: did it return anything?
[02:53] <gen> mwe, nothing
[02:53] <gen> went back to prompt
[02:53] <Hmmmm> hi guys, just installed on my new hp laptop. having some crazy issues with my microfone though
[02:53] <faeryNatsuki> hello people, i have a question
[02:54] <jrib> !ask | faeryNatsuki
[02:54] <ubotu> faeryNatsuki: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:54] <faeryNatsuki> when i use synaptic to uninstal a package i have two options
[02:54] <mwe> gen: hmm. but someone is logged into a gnome session on the same machine you ssh to?
[02:54] <faeryNatsuki> une is tu uninstall and the second something like uninstall enterely
[02:54] <mwe> gen: it means synaptic is not running
[02:54] <finalbeta> jrib, I'm not sure. It's a small app in beta, just wanna get an installable version.
[02:54] <faeryNatsuki> what is the differnece?
[02:54] <gen> wait
[02:54] <jrib> faeryNatsuki: just uninstalling won't remove configuration files
[02:54] <un_operateur> faeryNatsuki, the latter purges all configuration files for that package
[02:54] <Hmmmm> can anyone help me with an audio issue please?
[02:55] <adaptr> !ask | Hmmmm:
[02:55] <ubotu> Hmmmm:: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:55] <IRCMonkey> hi
[02:55] <gen> mwe, this is the output. 30148 00:11:34 synaptic
[02:55] <Hmmmm> just installed on my new hp laptop. having some crazy issues with my microfone though
[02:55] <mwe> gen: oh
[02:55] <IRCMonkey> Hmmmm:  like what issues mate?
[02:55] <adaptr> mwe: nya nya nya ..nyer :)
[02:55] <faeryNatsuki> jrib and if i use the second option it's like uninstall and purgue?
[02:55] <gen> he he he, just trying to klearn new things
[02:55] <ltibor65> adaptr, I want now a direct connect with a UTP cable, without hub or switch and I want that both computer can read and write the certain files of other. How to make this?
[02:55] <Rookie-1> !freenx
[02:55] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[02:55] <Hmmmm> IRCMonkey, my mike works for a few seconds
[02:55] <Hmmmm> then stops
[02:55] <Hmmmm> until i reboot
[02:56] <adaptr> ltibor65: by installing some file-sharing software, like samba or nfs
[02:56] <mwe> gen: sudo killall synaptic should kill it but leave the lock file. you can remove that one afterwards. then you should be able to use apt
[02:56] <jrib> faeryNatsuki: right, "remove completely" is equivalent to purge in aptitude and apt-get
[02:56] <gen> trying to setup a server
[02:56] <Hmmmm> i have a compaq nx6324
[02:56] <Hmmmm> compaq nx6325 actually
[02:56] <Hmmmm> with adgy
[02:56] <IRCMonkey> do u hear noise?
[02:56] <Hmmmm> edgy
[02:56] <IRCMonkey> or just freezes
[02:56] <adaptr> !enter | Hmmmm
[02:56] <ubotu> Hmmmm: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:56] <Hmmmm> audio works perfect even now
[02:56] <Hmmmm> just the mike stops working
[02:57] <kennyt> linux >=2.6.20 is broken on ppc?
[02:57] <IRCMonkey> Hmmmm:  make sure nother application is using audio in background
[02:57] <Hmmmm> ok
[02:57] <faeryNatsuki> jrib, thanks
[02:57] <faeryNatsuki> ;)
[02:57] <kennyt> it's oopsing just after being selected here; earlier kernels hang the system right after fsck
[02:58] <Hmmmm> well how can i check to see if some other app is using up my mike?
[02:58] <faeryNatsuki> mmm, do you know if i can use conio.h in linux?
[02:58] <IRCMonkey> use top
[02:58] <ltibor65> Thanks, adaptr, I will try it.
[02:59] <IRCMonkey> or system monitor
[03:00] <gen> mwe,
[03:00] <kate___> is msn totally disabled?
[03:00] <kate___> msg sorry
[03:00] <kate___> :)
[03:00] <IRCMonkey> anyone setup LAMP on ubuntu?
[03:01] <IRCMonkey> 1LAMP
[03:01] <IRCMonkey> !LAMp
[03:01] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[03:01] <gen> run the sudo aptitudeinstall apache2, and its running
[03:01] <gen> mwe, run the sudo aptitudeinstall apache2, and its running
[03:01] <gen> mwe, it start in installing
[03:01] <kate___> can someone please help me? i have the same problem like this guy:  http://72.14.221.104/search?q=cache:BjFzBi7pcRUJ:www.thisishull.net/showthread.php%3Ft%3D152695+a6b00r+linux+gnustikos&hl=hu&gl=hu&ct=clnk&cd=7
[03:01] <mwe> gen: it's sudo aptitude install apache2 though
[03:02] <gen> yes, its done
[03:02] <adaptr> mwe: I'd make that "sudo apt-get install apache"
[03:02] <gen> package is install
[03:02] <mwe> adaptr: I see
[03:02] <IRCMonkey> gen what are you trying to do?
[03:02] <gen> mwe, how ca I test it
[03:02] <mwe> gen: /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[03:03] <gen> trying to setup a testing server for my webpage design
[03:03] <adaptr> gen: open a browser like links or lynx and go to localhost
[03:03] <IRCMonkey> oh ok
[03:03] <IRCMonkey> good luck gen
[03:03] <gen> he he he thanks
[03:03] <gen> trying hard though
[03:03] <IRCMonkey> i'm trying that too
[03:03] <IRCMonkey> :)
[03:04] <adaptr> IRCMonkey: any reason why you did not use the LAMP option from the Server setup ?
[03:04] <gen> with the help of this I think I can
[03:04] <mwe> gen: the command I just suggested should start apache. provided it succeeds and you don't have a firewall blocking connections you should then be able to see the default apache page on the server
[03:04] <IRCMonkey> adaptr:  nope
[03:04] <gen> okay wait try to do it
[03:05] <mwe> adaptr: you prefer apache 1 ?
[03:05] <IRCMonkey> gen if you install apche,make sure u get a good net monitoring tool like iptraf or something
[03:05] <IRCMonkey> sudo apt-get install iptraf
[03:05] <kate___> IRCMonkey please?:)
[03:05] <IRCMonkey> kate what?
[03:06] <kate___> do you know the solution for this problem?     http://72.14.221.104/search?q=cache:BjFzBi7pcRUJ:www.thisishull.net/showthread.php%3Ft%3D152695+a6b00r+linux+gnustikos&hl=hu&gl=hu&ct=clnk&cd=7
[03:06] <kate___> i have the same
[03:06] <adaptr> mwe: hum.. okay, so use apache2 instead, but I don't see why you would use aptitude, if that is even possible with command-line arguments
[03:06] <gen> IRCMonkey, what is iptraf for?
[03:06] <IRCMonkey> kate let me chk the link
[03:06] <IRCMonkey> 1 second
[03:06] <kate___> thanks
[03:06] <phr34ck> guys, something is with my computer. I logged off, and logged in back again and everyhting is slow
[03:06] <mwe> adaptr: it is indeed possible
[03:06] <phr34ck> when I scroll down with pages, it freeses a little bit.
[03:07] <jenetik> Does ubuntu server include everything ubuntu desktop has?
[03:07] <adaptr> mwe: and aptitude uses its default dependency checking this way ? because that *would* make it useful... nothing else would
[03:07] <phr34ck> I used the TOP command, and it turned out that Xorg is eating up the processor "80%"
[03:07] <adaptr> phr34ck: that's not unusual
[03:07] <jrib> jenetik: no, you won't have gnome for example
[03:07] <mwe> adaptr: and IMO it's superiour to apt-get as it allows proper uninstallation of automatically installed dependencies
[03:07] <IRCMonkey> kate no idea sorry
[03:07] <kate___> :(
[03:07] <adaptr> mwe: that's what I meant by "dependency checking", yeah :)
[03:07] <jenetik> ok
[03:07] <jrib> jenetik: (by default, you can always install anything you can install on the desktop of course)
[03:07] <phr34ck> what am I suppose to do ?
[03:08] <IRCMonkey> kate gpm installed?
[03:08] <mwe> adaptr: it does
[03:08] <jenetik> anyone know the best mirror to get the .iso from?
[03:08] <jenetik> these are slow as hell
[03:08] <gen> mwe, This is the message, Unable to open logs
[03:08] <jrib> jenetik: try bit torrent
[03:08] <adaptr> jenetik: one close to you, usually
[03:08] <mwe> gen: from what?
[03:08] <sebs> un_operator: got it: solution was to add the universe to the synaptic and all is fine
[03:09] <IRCMonkey> gen iptraf is to monitor ur net connection
[03:09] <gen> upon executing the /etc/init.d/apache2 statr
[03:09] <ubuntux> does someone have java 1.6 installed on edgy?
[03:09] <jenetik> where is the .torrent at
[03:09] <jenetik> I cant find it
[03:09] <kate___> IRCMonkey now i installed
[03:09] <mwe> ubuntux: yes
[03:09] <IRCMonkey> ok kate
[03:09] <sukrit> IRCMonkey, hi, sorry i got disconnected
[03:09] <gen> mwe, upon executing the /etc/init.d/apache2 statr
[03:10] <IRCMonkey> np
[03:10] <sukrit> still trying to recover my microphone
[03:10] <IRCMonkey> gen spelling wrong of start
[03:10] <mwe> ubuntux: I installed it with the installer from sun. I kept 1.5, though. just installed .16 in /opt
[03:10] <kate___> IRCMonkey and now? is it solved?
[03:10] <sukrit> i tried looking in top for alsa, or sound ... but to no avail
[03:10] <jenetik> http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/ubuntu-releases/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[03:10] <jenetik> ?
[03:10] <jrib> jenetik: choose "other installation options" and look for the right .torrent file
[03:10] <IRCMonkey> kate cant be sure
[03:10] <jrib> jenetik: yeah, that one looks right
[03:11] <adaptr> gen: run the command under sudo
[03:11] <IRCMonkey> does ur pc freeze/
[03:11] <adaptr> gen: normal users aren't allowed to start services
[03:11] <mwe> gen: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start. note the sudo
[03:11] <IRCMonkey> i mean have u chked for over heating?
[03:11] <kate___> IRCMonkey i hope, if yes then thanks, if not i will come back :)
[03:11] <sukrit> IRCMonkey, what should I look for in top?
[03:11] <IRCMonkey> good luck kate
[03:11] <ubuntux> mwe, okay, you know if there is a deb or something for it?
[03:11] <jenetik> does ubuntu config satellite TV cards automatically?
[03:11] <gen> okay
[03:11] <jenetik> video for linux?
[03:11] <kate___> bbl thanks
[03:11] <x-r00t-x> hello. can anyone tell me what chmod i set to home dir????
[03:11] <gen> sorry for the spelling :)
[03:12] <jrib> x-r00t-x: whatever you want
[03:12] <mwe> ubuntux: I don't know any. using the sun installer was easy though
[03:12] <adaptr> x-r00t-x: you should have left it alone in the first place :)
[03:12] <gen> mwe, httpd already running
[03:12] <ubuntux> mwe, okay gonna try it out then
[03:12] <IRCMonkey> ain top chk for any apps, that might use sound
[03:12] <jewbilee> Can anyone tell me how I make GAIM join ubuntu and identify me with nickserv on connect?
[03:12] <IRCMonkey> and then kill it
[03:12] <x-r00t-x> adaptr, i already did something.
[03:12] <mwe> gen: good. that means it's already started. I think
[03:12] <adaptr> x-r00t-x: the proper permissions are 40755
[03:12] <mwe> gen: try sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart to make sure
[03:13] <x-r00t-x> so chmod 40755 ~ ? adaptr
[03:13] <sukrit> IRCMonkey, ok killed everything
[03:13] <adaptr> x-r00t-x: yep
[03:13] <IRCMonkey> ok
[03:13] <x-r00t-x> adaptr, [~]  ->> $ chmod 40755 ~
[03:13] <x-r00t-x> chmod: invalid mode: `40755'
[03:13] <jrib> adaptr: what does that 40 mean?
[03:13] <gen> mwe, Forcing reload of web server ok.
[03:14] <mwe> gen: good. now lynx locahost
[03:14] <adaptr> x-r00t-x: yes, the 4 is set with another util
[03:14] <sukrit> IRCMonkey, now what
[03:14] <IRCMonkey> x-r00t-x:  try 0755
[03:14] <janstedehouder> Hi, does anyone have an experience with booting Edgy Eft on an Intel 865G chipset?
[03:14] <mwe> gen: sudo aptitude install lynx if you don't have it or try w3 instead
[03:14] <IRCMonkey> now try mic
[03:14] <mwe> gen: w3m*
[03:14] <mpittle> Whats the battery monitor for ubuntu (gnome) called?
[03:14] <mpittle> Battmon?
[03:15] <sukrit> nope, no luck
[03:15] <gen> would I use a browser
[03:15] <gen> mwe, would I use a browser?
[03:15] <adaptr> x-r00t-x: you can set 0755 with chmod, though - I thnk the 4 is set with chattr or something
[03:15] <IRCMonkey> battmon?
[03:15] <janstedehouder> It won't allow screen resolutions larger than 640x480. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't solve the problem
[03:15] <IRCMonkey> try apt-cache search battery
[03:15] <mwe> gen: yeah ;) w3m and lunx are terminal browsers
[03:16] <IRCMonkey> mwe yes
[03:16] <x-r00t-x> oh ok adaptr.
[03:16] <mwe> IRCMonkey: yes what
[03:16] <IRCMonkey> yes they r terminal browsers
[03:16] <KenSentMe> How can i see if my rc.local script has been run at boot?
[03:16] <mwe> IRCMonkey: I know. I just told gen ;)
[03:17] <IRCMonkey> ken try rcconf
[03:17] <IRCMonkey> mwe sorry
[03:17] <mwe> IRCMonkey: heh
[03:18] <gen> mwe,  IRCMonkey.executing sudo aptitude lynx
[03:18] <mwe> gen: sudo aptitude install lynx
[03:18] <gen> mwe, IRCMonkey, yes anf its installing
[03:18] <gen> mwe,  yes anf its installing
[03:19] <mwe> gen: good
[03:19] <gen> mwe, hey its done
[03:19] <mpittle> Whats the battery monitor for ubuntu (gnome) called?
[03:19] <IRCMonkey> ok kool
[03:19] <mwe> gen: lynx localhost then
[03:19] <mwe> gen: it should show the default apache page
[03:19] <IRCMonkey> mpittle:  try this apt-cache search battery
[03:19] <gen> yehey up and running
[03:19] <mwe> gen: great
[03:20] <IRCMonkey> gen way to go gen
[03:20] <gen> yessssssssssssssssss
[03:20] <IRCMonkey> :)
[03:20] <gen> he he he
[03:20] <gen> I already download the iptraf
[03:20] <gen> :)
[03:20] <IRCMonkey> good
[03:20] <mena> hi friends... i have a problem with mu resoluton how to solve
[03:20] <mena> my*
[03:20] <IRCMonkey> sudo iptraf to run it
[03:21] <Jowi> !resolution > mena
[03:22] <Goslowjimbo> How do you use the broken filter in the synaptic package manager?
[03:22] <markvandenborre> how is a novice user supposed to add a truetupe font to his system?
[03:22] <gen> mwe, how about installing the MySQL?
[03:22] <jrib> !fonts | markvandenborre
[03:22] <ubotu> markvandenborre: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[03:22] <faeryNatsuki> I have no sound in flash in ubuntu, what can i do?
[03:23] <jrib> faeryNatsuki: are you using flash9beta?
[03:23] <mish> I'm trying to set up forwarding from ethernet port to wlan
[03:23] <mish>  had it working yesterday and can't work out why it is not working today - can anyone help?
[03:23] <faeryNatsuki> mmm, i think that
[03:23] <GuerrillaWon> I've installed nspluginwrapper but I get command not found when trying to execute, anyone now what's going on with this?
[03:23] <Intelligitimate> My desktop disappeared. I think Nautilus crashed. How do I get it back?
[03:23] <mwe> gen: you should probly read !lamp to install a proper lamp server
[03:23] <wheels3572> Can someone help me with Gaim Logging feature please
[03:23] <mwe> !lamp | gen
[03:23] <ubotu> gen: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[03:23] <faeryNatsuki> i used flash 7 and flash9beta, and the standalone flash player... no sound
[03:23] <zig> hi all, I forgot, I'm looking for a console package manager ?
[03:23] <adaptr> mish: all you need is to add a route
[03:23] <adaptr> mish: first explain what you did to make it work yesterday
[03:23] <mish> route -n
[03:23] <mish> Kernel IP routeing table
[03:23] <mish> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[03:23] <mish> 192.168.99.0    0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
[03:23] <mish> 192.168.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 ra0
[03:23] <mish> 0.0.0.0         192.168.0.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 ra0
[03:24] <IRCMonkey> what bout gaim logging?
[03:24] <adaptr> !flood | mish
[03:24] <ubotu> mish: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:24] <mwe> mish: don't do that
[03:24] <wheels3572> Im having issues with Gaim logging any chats now.  Is there a master logging file for Gaim?
[03:24] <mena_> plz i need help with monitor resolution
[03:24] <IRCMonkey> wheel yes
[03:24] <IRCMonkey> if loggin is enabled
[03:24] <mwe> !paste | mish
[03:24] <Ice_Wewe> mena_: ok, what's your problem?
[03:24] <ubotu> mish: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[03:24] <mena_> i cant shange it
[03:24] <faeryNatsuki> jrib, i used flash 7 and flash9beta, and the standalone flash player... no sound
[03:24] <adaptr> mena_: what is the problem ?
[03:24] <jrib> faeryNatsuki: what version does this site say you have: http://www.adobe.com/products/flash/about/
[03:24] <IRCMonkey> mena whats wrong?
[03:24] <Ice_Wewe> mena_: have you checked your xorg.conf?
[03:24] <mena_> its 600*400
[03:24] <adaptr> mena_: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to include the resolutions you need
[03:25] <Ice_Wewe> mena_: you won't be able to change your resolution unless Xorg is aware of other resolutions
[03:25] <jakob> What is a SVN Snapshot?
[03:25] <mby> I want to use hash sign in configuration file and don't want the following string to be treated as comment ? should I preceed it somehow ? I tried \ and '' :/
[03:25] <faeryNatsuki> dejame ver
[03:25] <wheels3572> IRCMonkey, I have all 3 options checked and it's still not logging for me.  ANy ideas?
[03:25] <mish> sorry - didn't know about paste bin
[03:25] <mena_> so how to make it know
[03:25] <Ice_Wewe> jakob: it's a tarball of SVN that's taken at regular intervals
[03:25] <mwe> !fixres | mena_
[03:25] <ubotu> mena_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:25] <adaptr> jakob: a build at a certain point in time
[03:25] <madbart> How can i add a new server :)
[03:25] <adaptr> madbart: build one ?
[03:25] <mish> just noticed my script references wlan0 but should reference ra0 ...
[03:25] <jrib> jakob: it's a snapshot of an svn repository at some point in time
[03:25] <IRCMonkey> wheel did u chk  $HOME/.gaim folder?
[03:25] <Jowi> jakob, source code from a specific date and time
[03:25] <mish> off to check that
[03:25] <Ice_Wewe> mwe: I think that's wrong, for starters, there's no such thing as ?dm
[03:25] <markvandenborre> jrib, thx for your explanation, but... I looked for the most newbie proof instructions (dropping stuff in the nautilus font view) and that didn't work on dapper
[03:25] <mena_> Okay friends i will try thanks
[03:26] <Ice_Wewe> mwe: how do I fix ubotu's description?
[03:26] <Jowi> !svn
[03:26] <ubotu> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[03:26] <mwe> Ice_Wewe: huh?
[03:26] <wheels3572> IRCMonkey, no I have not.  It stops at yesterrday.  After I had my power failure
[03:26] <markvandenborre> (mind you, this is not for me, it's for a friend who is less experienced)
[03:26] <ctqucl> I want to create a user by users-admin,but my users-admin can't work now,how can I creat a user like the kind 'desktop-user',who can help me?:(
[03:26] <jrib> markvandenborre: sometimes you will need to restart the application or regenerate the font cache (either run 'fc-cache' or just log out and back in I think)
[03:26] <Ice_Wewe> mwe: type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[03:26] <adaptr> Ice_Wewe: there is nothing wrong with it - your display manager could be any of xdm, gdm or kdm, so a single-character wildcard is appropriate here
[03:26] <Ice_Wewe> mwe: it's gdm, not ?dm
[03:26] <mwe> Ice_Wewe: try it it works
[03:26] <IRCMonkey> wheels3572:  open konsole type cd $HOME/.gaim
[03:26] <Ice_Wewe> adaptr: ah, ok, sorry
[03:26] <IRCMonkey> there should be a log folder
[03:26] <mwe> Ice_Wewe: ?dm works for gdm, xdm and kdm
[03:27] <mwe> Ice_Wewe: ? is a wild card
[03:27] <Ice_Wewe> rirght, ok
[03:27] <jakob> and what are these lines called "deb url main stable"?
[03:27] <markvandenborre> jrib, hm, I'll have a look and report a bug about that
[03:27] <adaptr> mwe: actually, it works for all three of them at the same time, which may not be what you want if you've got more than one installed
[03:27] <Ice_Wewe> jakob: the stable tree of the main package repo?
[03:27] <mwe> adaptr: it doesn't matter
[03:27] <Goslowjimbo> How can I use filters on synaptic package manager?
[03:27] <Ice_Wewe> adaptr: but only one should be running at a single time
[03:28] <mwe> adaptr: it works as the ones that are not default will just exit without doing anything
[03:28] <jakob> ice_wewe, as in I want find some to add to synaptic. What should google then?
[03:28] <mish> that fixed it - thanks, and sorry again for pasting in
[03:28] <adaptr> Ice_Wewe: the command doesn't care if they're running or not, but mwe is right
[03:28] <Ice_Wewe> jakob: why do you want to add random Ubuntu repos?
[03:28] <Ice_Wewe> adaptr: ok
[03:28] <ctqucl> I want to create a user by users-admin,but my users-admin can't work now,how can I creat a user like the kind 'desktop-user',who can help me?:(
[03:28] <faeryNatsuki> jrib, that's the page you sent me says "You have version 7,0,68,0 installed"
[03:29] <Goslowjimbo> As in I want to use broken filter to find why synaptic package manager doesn't work
[03:29] <jakob> ice_wewe, not random, just for beryl
[03:29] <adaptr> jakob: start by enabling the universe and multiverse repositories - that'll up your package count to 20000+
[03:29] <Ice_Wewe> ctqucl: edit /etc/shadow and /etc/passwd and add the user
[03:29] <IRCMonkey> ctqucl:  adduser name
[03:29] <faeryNatsuki> i just installed it, and sound is working
[03:29] <adaptr> jakob: well then why not say so > sjeez
[03:29] <mwe> jakob: the beryl wiki tells you how to it
[03:29] <Ice_Wewe> IRCMonkey: that oo
[03:29] <Ice_Wewe> too*
[03:29] <mwe> !beryl | jakob
[03:29] <jrib> faeryNatsuki: install flash9beta.  Your sound will fail if you have more than one app using sound and on of those apps is flash
[03:29] <ubotu> jakob: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[03:29] <ctqucl> thank you, Ice_Wewe
[03:29] <faeryNatsuki> jrib, ahora lo que no tengo es el sonido de todo lo dems :(
[03:29] <Loevborg> Lately, I frequently get very bad ping times from my ubuntu box to my WLAN router, occasionally "destination not reachable". The router is not to blame, because my iBook works fine; only the dapper box behaves weird. It's a pci prism54 btw.
[03:29] <adaptr> !es | faeryNatsuki
[03:29] <ubotu> faeryNatsuki: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:29] <Loevborg> Anyone have an idea?
[03:29] <GuerrillaWon> I have nspluginwrapper installed and can't find or call it in /usr/lib anyone know where I'm going wrong?
[03:30] <adaptr> ..if it even was spanish :)
[03:30] <wheels3572> IRCMonkey, Lovely I have a busted gaim logs option.  It will no longer log anymore.  GRRRRRRRRRR.  Stops at lastnight even in CLI
[03:30] <mwe> jakob: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy
[03:30] <GuerrillaWon> Or how to find it? find nspluginwrapper is returning no results.
[03:30] <jakob> adaptr, because I often look for the repositories(?), for different programs, but I didn't know what to look for.
[03:30] <Ice_Wewe> ctqucl: yeah, I'd suggest copying an existing user (like yourself) and editing it for your preferences. If you mess up passwd or shadow, there is a good chance _your system won't work_
[03:30] <faeryNatsuki> hehe, sorry
[03:30] <IRCMonkey> wheels3572:  lol :)
[03:30] <adaptr> jakob: search the forums, search ubuntuguides, google, and as a last resort, try the official docs :)
[03:31] <wheels3572> is there a way remove gaim and reinstall it see if ti works that way or is there an upgrade to GAIM?
[03:31] <faeryNatsuki> jrib, now i have flash sound but i lost system sound
[03:31] <faeryNatsuki> weird, hey! i got sound again
[03:31] <jrib> faeryNatsuki: right, see the last thing I said
[03:31] <IRCMonkey> wheels just use synaptic to upgrade
[03:31] <adaptr> jakob: *programs* generally don't have entire repositories, unless it's a dedicated separate system, like beryl, which is heavily developed but not part of the standard repo's
[03:31] <jakob> adaptr, aren't the "deb http://url.com main stable" lines called repos?
[03:31] <Goslowjimbo> OOps.  I want to use the synaptic package manager broken filter to find why UPDATE MANAGER is not working.
[03:31] <faeryNatsuki> jrib, the best way to install the flash 9 beta?
[03:31] <adaptr> jakob: no, the URL is the site, "main" is the repository
[03:32] <wheels3572> IRCMonkey, ok ty
[03:32] <jrib> faeryNatsuki: flash7 uses oss so it will only allow one thign to play sound at a time, flash9 uses alsa by default so that won't happen.  Yep, I would suggest installing flash9
[03:32] <jrib> !flash9 | faeryNatsuki
[03:32] <ubotu> faeryNatsuki: flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[03:32] <adaptr> jakob: or vice versa - you'd have to ask a debian fanatic what exactly it means
[03:32] <faeryNatsuki> ok, i'll give a try
[03:32] <faeryNatsuki> :)
[03:32] <jakob> adapt, hehe, okay :P
[03:33] <Ice_Wewe> not to annoy too many Beryl users, but it just seems like a rip off of what Leopard and Vista ship with
[03:33] <Ice_Wewe> I'll stick with my E17, thanks
[03:33] <adaptr> jakob: just know that you need all three parts of the line: deb to indicate a binary deb repo, the URL, and the section, or repo, itself
[03:33] <Ice_Wewe> *hugs E17*
[03:33] <mena_> friends how to chandge the defcult display manager
[03:33] <Ice_Wewe> mena_: use gdm?
[03:33] <adaptr> Ice_Wewe: have you used Beryl ?
[03:33] <mena_> yes
[03:33] <Ice_Wewe> adaptr: no
[03:33] <IRCMonkey> mena dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[03:33] <jakob> adaptr, of course. I was just wondering if there was an easy way to search for those lines.
[03:33] <Ice_Wewe> mena_: click on the menu in the lower left corner
[03:33] <IRCMonkey> make sure kdm is installed
[03:34] <adaptr> Ice_Wewe: then please refrain from such silly comments - beryl is capable of wizardry that Vista won't have for at least a YEAR
[03:34] <Ice_Wewe> adaptr: have you used E17?
[03:34] <adaptr> Ice_Wewe: if ever
[03:34] <mena_> Ice_Wewe, then
[03:34] <Ice_Wewe> mena_: sorry, didn't know you were using kdm, can't help
[03:34] <Lynoure> jakob: repositiories, yes. just like in Ubuntu. But it can be hard to tell the ubuntu and debian ones apart with an automatic search
[03:34] <adaptr> Ice_Wewe: does it explode/zoom/combust my dialog boxes ? can it scroll by all windows 5 times a second? :)
[03:34] <mena_> okay no prob
[03:34] <Ice_Wewe> adaptr: ...no
[03:34] <mwe> is there anyway to browse down the list in top?
[03:35] <Ice_Wewe> adaptr: not that it
[03:35] <poningru> mwe: what do you mean?
[03:35] <IRCMonkey> mwe up/down key
[03:35] <jakob> lynoure, there's a difference between debian and ubuntu? I thought ubuntu was to debian what vista is to windows.
[03:35] <Pensa`MIA> my screen doesn't turn off but just makes every pixel black when ubuntu is supposed to turn it off
[03:35] <mwe> poningru: IRCMonkey doesn't work here
[03:35] <Ice_Wewe> (sorry about the returns) adaptr: not that it'll change anything, but I'd prefer simplicity and power over eye candy. E17 splits the difference. Besides, can you have animated desktop background in Beryl?
[03:35] <IRCMonkey> debian is dad, ubuntu is son
[03:35] <poningru> jakob: eh... not really
[03:35] <adaptr> Ice_Wewe: you should try it sometime, then... unless your system is very old (mine is an athlon XP 1700+ with a cheap GeForce FX5200) it will quite literally blow your mind
[03:35] <adaptr> Ice_Wewe: you can have an animated *anything* in beryl
[03:36] <mwe> poningru: I mean I want to see the processes below the bottum
[03:36] <poningru> mwe: oh in top
[03:36] <Lynoure> jakob: yes, there is difference. Ubuntu is based on Debian, but egdy is closer to Debian Unstable than Stable when it comes to the versions of things.
[03:36] <adaptr> Ice_Wewe: that's the whole point of it - it's open, and anybody can write plugins for it
[03:36] <gen> mwe, IRCMonkey thanks guys your a big help
[03:36] <poningru> mwe: do you have X running?
[03:36] <mwe> poningru: right ;)
[03:36] <poningru> as in a gui?
[03:36] <poningru> just use system monitor
[03:36] <mwe> poningru: yes is that relevant?
[03:36] <Ice_Wewe> adaptr: thanks, but no thanks. I run linux to get away from the crazy mind-set that consumers *must* have the fanciest graphics, even at the expense of power and battery life (granted, this isn't a laptop)
[03:36] <poningru> if not you cant
[03:36] <adaptr> Ice_Wewe: what is, in your opinion, the power that e17 gives you ?
[03:37] <poningru> mwe: top doesnt allow you to scroll iirc
[03:37] <IRCMonkey> gen good luck
[03:37] <jakob> lynoure, so it's a modded Debian Unstable?
[03:37] <poningru> jakob: yes
[03:37] <poningru> precisely
[03:37] <jrib> mwe: you could use htop
[03:37] <faeryNatsuki> jrib: could the problem be caused by the firefox 2.0.0.1 update?
[03:37] <jrib> faeryNatsuki: no
[03:37] <faeryNatsuki> jrib: or related to swiftfox?
[03:37] <jrib> well, doubtful at least
[03:38] <Ice_Wewe> adaptr: E17 is a versatile window manager that has 'eye candy' like desktop transitions, a unique wall paper for every desktop, animated desktop backgrounds (without the added CPU/GPU load), and many more
[03:38] <jrib> faeryNatsuki: doubtful, it's a well-known issue with flash7
[03:38] <Lynoure> jakob: kinda. except unstable is evermoving, everchanging, unlike the released Ubuntus
[03:38] <mwe> poningru: annoying. I'll just use ps -e|less then
[03:38] <Ice_Wewe> adaptr: you can read on all it's features (like I did with Beryl) at www3.get-e.org
[03:38] <jimcooncat> jrib, hey, htop's nice, thanks!
[03:38] <dimitri_> does anybody use dynDNS ? i want to host a small web page
[03:38] <adaptr> Ice_Wewe: I'll check it out - is it standard in synaptic ? I can't find e17
[03:39] <IRCMonkey> i use no-ip
[03:39] <Ice_Wewe> adaptr: that's nice that you can animate *anything/everything* in beryl
[03:39] <pier> hi
[03:39] <Ice_Wewe> adaptr: no, unfortunately you have to compile it
[03:39] <faeryNatsuki> jrib, flash7 gives me sound but flash 9 no
[03:39] <adaptr> Ice_Wewe: okay, that's not a problem per se
[03:39] <mpittle> Doesn't anyone use ubuntu with a laptop in here? :P
[03:39] <jrib> faeryNatsuki: is flash9 installed now?
[03:39] <faeryNatsuki> "You have version 9,0,21,78 installed"
[03:39] <faeryNatsuki> that's what webpage says
[03:39] <mwe> jrib: yeah htop! it's cool.
[03:39] <jrib> faeryNatsuki: do you have anything else running?
[03:39] <mpittle> I just want the link to the battery monitor on Gnome, its on the About section of the monitor.
[03:39] <IRCMonkey> jrib:  broswer-flash plugin installed?
[03:39] <pier> please i have on question on ubuntu livecd i want to keep changes on usb key ... how is this possible ?
[03:40] <jakob> lynoure, so will the next ubuntu be an updated ubuntu or will it be a modded version of the newest Debian Unstable?
[03:40] <poningru> jakob: they merge with debian unstable everytime before next release
[03:41] <faeryNatsuki> jrib, anything else? amsn, and nothing more
[03:41] <Ice_Wewe> adaptr: to find a list of what you have to compile, try this webpage: http://www3.get-e.org/E17_User_Guide/English/_pages/2.1.html and to find out what you have to build, try this: http://enlightenment.freedesktop.org/
[03:41] <adaptr> Ice_Wewe: so you installed Ubuntu then ditched Gnome and installed e17 ?
[03:41] <poningru> err as in they bring in stuff from debian before every release
[03:41] <mwe> jrib: thanks for suggesting htop. I'll avoid top when I can and use htop from now on ;)
[03:41] <Ice_Wewe> adaptr: oh, and grab another theme before you make your judgement, the default one isn't the best
[03:41] <jakob> okay then, thanks for the info lynoure and poningru :)
[03:42] <jrib> faeryNatsuki: weird, I guess flash9 is buggy for you then.  You could try the old fixes for flash7 but they just run flash through alsa-oss so I don't know if that will fail too
[03:42] <jrib> !flash | faeryNatsuki
[03:42] <ubotu> faeryNatsuki: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:42] <markvandenborre> !ubotu fonts|markvandenborre
[03:42] <ubotu> markvandenborre: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[03:42] <Ice_Wewe> adaptr: no, I was running dapper and migrating to Edgy (I ran Gnome in dapper cause E17 wouldn't build). I ran IceWM while I was migrating because for some reason Nautilus and Gnome in Edgy won't read my preferences in my home, but they'll overwrite them with stuff that the Dapper versions don't like
[03:42] <jrib> faeryNatsuki: the restricted wiki has isntructions on setting up alsa-oss with flash7
[03:42] <mpittle> !ubotu battery
[03:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about battery - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <mpittle> !ubotu battery monitor
[03:42] <Ice_Wewe> adaptr: so, thus everytime I rebooted into Edgy to install or fix something, I would have to reconfigure everything Gnome/Nautilus in Dapper
[03:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about battery monitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:43] <faeryNatsuki> the restricted wiki?
[03:43] <faeryNatsuki> jrib
[03:43] <Ice_Wewe> adaptr: as you can probably tell, this got old really quickly, so I ran IceWM in Edgy till I got E17 compiled and runing
[03:43] <jrib> faeryNatsuki: yeah, it's in the log paragraph ubotu just said
[03:43] <jrib> s/log/slong
[03:43] <jrib> erm
[03:43] <Jowi> adaptr, e17 is good but nothing beats Beryl. e17 does not have the features you're probably used to having with Beryl.
[03:43] <zig> anyone knows where I can find the headers of the ffmpeg library ? I don't find the ffmpeg-dev package
[03:43] <Ice_Wewe> adaptr: if you want to run E17, you'll have to make the file .xsession and put in it "exec enlightenment_start"
[03:44] <wheels3572> Can anyone tell me if there is a GAIM room on IRC
[03:44] <wheels3572> ?
[03:44] <jrib> wheels3572: yes, #gaim on freenode
[03:44] <Ice_Wewe> adaptr: they tell you that you have to change your window manager by hand, and I had to look in my notes for when I ran E17 on Mandrake to figure out how to do that (they really should tell you how)
[03:44] <IRCMonkey> wheels3572:  whats wrong?
[03:44] <kaman> hi. i have problemm with Open Office`s Calc- how to rename the field "Wierz 1,2,3,4,5" on the right? http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clipboard01wp8.jpg
[03:44] <Jowi> adaptr, if you want to try it you don't have to install from source. here are the repos for it: http://www1.get-e.org/Main/News/_articles/365.html
[03:44] <wheels3572> IRCMonkey, I just reinstalled gaim without restarting X and it's still not logging
[03:44] <adaptr> Ice_Wewe: there's a very simple guide on the forums: indeed, soulmachine has a repo
[03:45] <wheels3572> IRCMonkey, and EVERYTHIGN is  checked
[03:45] <Ice_Wewe> adaptr: really?
[03:45] <Ice_Wewe> adaptr: but that's for i386, I bet
[03:45] <IRCMonkey> wheels3572: try this
[03:45] <IRCMonkey> wheels3572:  run gksu gaim
[03:45] <IRCMonkey> enable loggin
[03:45] <Ice_Wewe> adaptr: problem with x64 is no one loves you enough to make a repo...
[03:45] <mby>  I wanted to use hash sign in fstab configuration file and don't want the following string to be treated as comment ? should I preceed it somehow ? I tried \ and '' :/
[03:45] <Jowi> Ice_Wewe, there are AMD64 versions available on that page as well
[03:46] <IRCMonkey> 1 more thing
[03:46] <gan|y|med> hi
[03:46] <jrib> kaman: what does "wierz" mean?
[03:46] <IRCMonkey> is syslog running?
[03:46] <gan|y|med> anybody tried K-3D in edgy???
[03:46] <Ice_Wewe> adaptr: oh, and unless the packages in the repo are really new, I doubt you'll be able to enjoy E17 to the fullest because most of the new features are only available to those who built from recent CVS
[03:46] <Ice_Wewe> Jowi: thanks for that information.
[03:46] <Ice_Wewe> *goes to look at said page*
[03:46] <hoelk> speaking of beryl
[03:46] <mby> wierz = believe :)
[03:46] <hoelk> any way to run it on an old tnt2?
[03:46] <spice> Hey.
[03:46] <spice> How do I make an application run on startup from the terminal?
[03:46] <kaman> jrib - the vertical space
[03:46] <mby>  I want to use hash sign in configuration file and don't want the following string to be treated as comment ? should I preceed it somehow ? I tried \ and '' :/
[03:47] <madbart> How to stop vpn? ;(
[03:47] <kaman> jrib - opposition to the column
[03:47] <hoelk> and is it a good idea ? i cut the fan of my tnt2 because it was to loud ;)
[03:47] <jimcooncat> spice, add it to .bashrc
[03:47] <IRCMonkey> mad stop it on boot up
[03:47] <hoelk> (or its power control to be exact)
[03:47] <mwe> spice: you mean run when you log into to the termianl or what?
[03:47] <madbart> Could someone tell me hot wo stop vpn
[03:47] <IRCMonkey> uinstall
[03:47] <spice> No, I want beryl to run when I log in.
[03:47] <IRCMonkey> lot of ways ;)
[03:47] <spice> But I'm doing the installation over ssh, so I can't do the gui.
[03:47] <Jowi> spice if you are using gnome simply add beryl-manager to your session
[03:48] <spice> Doesn't that require use of the gui?
[03:48] <Ice_Wewe> IRCMonkey: I think he took you seriously
[03:48] <mwe> spice: I think you need to edit the gconf database. not sure though
[03:48] <IRCMonkey> oh
[03:48] <Ice_Wewe> IRCMonkey: isn't it as simple as running vpnc-disconnect?
[03:48] <spice> Actually figured it out. Thanks guys!
[03:48] <spice> Seey'all.
[03:49] <IRCMonkey> ice temp solution ain it?
[03:49] <faeryNatsuki> the firefox 2.0.0.1 update was really unstable for me, anybody else had this problem?
[03:49] <wheels3572> IRCMonkey, how do I uninstall gaim and start GKSU without always going to CLI?
[03:49] <ctqucl> Ice_Wewe: how can I creat a new user purview like the default one) now? no users-admin and no reference.
[03:49] <Ice_Wewe> IRCMonkey: temp solution? No, that disconnects you
[03:49] <mwe> faeryNatsuki: it works fine here
[03:50] <Ice_Wewe> ctqucl: edit /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow
[03:50] <IRCMonkey> wheels3572:  gksu gaim command is ruunning gaim as root
[03:50] <mwe> Ice_Wewe: always use vipw and vigr for that though
[03:50] <Jowi> ctqucl, a simple solution is to type "sudo adduser newusername"
[03:50] <faeryNatsuki> mmm, i updated it on friday, and from that day until now it crashed about... 40 or 50 times
[03:50] <adaptr> ctqucl: (and Ice_Wewe) man useradd
[03:50] <wheels3572> IRCMonkey, ohhhhh.  So it's not a different Gaim?
[03:51] <IRCMonkey> nope
[03:51] <Ice_Wewe> ctqucl: /etc/passwd, add "user:x:1001:1001:User User,,,:/home/user:/bin/bash" where user is the name of the new user you wish to add
[03:51] <wheels3572> IRCMonkey, ok can you explain why it logs in Root mode but not regular mode?
[03:51] <MikeTheC> Hello all...
[03:51] <jrib> kaman: you can create a new column on the left and use that as the label when you create the chart
[03:51] <Thialfihar> hey
[03:51] <adaptr> Ice_Wewe: sjeez.. for gods sake dont encourage him to fsck his system :)
[03:51] <Jowi> Ice_Wewe, that is a bad way of doing it
[03:51] <ctqucl> but perview is the same as default?
[03:52] <IRCMonkey> wheels3572:  chlk syslog is running
[03:52] <Ice_Wewe> ctqucl: and in /etc/shadow, add "user::13456:0:99999:7:::"
[03:52] <Thialfihar> I'm trying to run postfix on Ubuntu (edgy) and it won't stop rejecting mail because it can't resolve any remote hosts, apparently.
[03:52] <mwe> Ice_Wewe: don't add users like that
[03:52] <ctqucl> ok,I try it
[03:52] <Ice_Wewe> ctqucl: which will add the new user without a password
[03:52] <IRCMonkey> and also chk golder/file perm. on .gaim folder
[03:52] <mwe> Ice_Wewe: there are programs for that
[03:52] <Jowi> ctqucl, use "adduser"
[03:52] <adaptr> ctqucl: no idea what you're on about - to create a new user just run sudo useradd, man useradd
[03:52] <mwe> Ice_Wewe: useradd
[03:52] <Thialfihar> I can resolve them with host or dig, but postfix always throws out those errors.
[03:52] <MikeTheC> Question: Does anyone here have experience installing Ubuntu PPC on old-school hardware?
[03:52] <Ice_Wewe> mwe: yes, but this is the manual way of doing it, incase the other programs aren't present or you don't/can't use them (such is the case with a Knoppix rescue disk)
[03:53] <mwe> Jowi: adduser is somewhat alod school isn't it ;)
[03:53] <kaman> jrib- thank you, it works
[03:53] <adaptr> mwe: not on debian
[03:53] <wheels3572> IRCMonkey, under gaim?  Sys log is cuz I can see who logged on and off
[03:53] <mwe> Ice_Wewe: you don't edit /etc/passwd without vipw
[03:53] <mwe> Ice_Wewe: it might render your system useless if you screw up
[03:53] <gan|y|med> anybody tried K-3D in edgy???
[03:53] <adaptr> mwe: adduser is a front-end to useradd, which asks you for all info and doesn't require you to remember all the switches
[03:53] <IRCMonkey> wheels3572:  for normal user chk its folder perm. setting
[03:53] <Jowi> mwe, it's better for beginners. it is interactive and prompts you for the details of the user as well as creates the homedir
[03:54] <ctqucl> thanks, I know useradd and adduser ,I just want to copy a user like the one I lost.
[03:54] <adaptr> Jowi: all of which can be done with useradd as well, but you have to read the man page first :)
[03:54] <mwe> adaptr: I thought it was the other way around. I find the similar names hard to remember which is which
[03:54] <IRCMonkey> brb
[03:54] <Jowi> adaptr, exactly :)
[03:55] <adaptr> mwe: well, think of it this way - useradd is the *nix command of old, usually recognised by the form "object-action"
[03:55] <adaptr> mwe: the new-bie friendly way is usually more windoze-oriented, "action-object"
[03:55] <IRCMonkey> back
[03:55] <MikeTheC> I've been trying to install 6.10 on an old "beige" PowerMac G3 via BootX with no luck.
[03:55] <mwe> adaptr: yeah ;)
[03:56] <adaptr> mwe: most *nix commands follow that pattern
[03:56] <jimcooncat> ctqucl, sounds like vipw is what you need
[03:56] <adaptr> MikeTheC: not the x86 ISO, I hope...
[03:56] <jimcooncat> ctqucl, if you know vi that is
[03:56] <MikeTheC> adaptr: No, it's the PPC version. :)
[03:56] <IRCMonkey> well later guys
[03:56] <jimcooncat> ctqucl, if not, you have to set your EDITOR variable first to whatever editor you like
[03:56] <IRCMonkey> happy new year all
[03:56] <adaptr> MikeTheC: okay, then what is going wrong ?
[03:56] <adaptr> phew.. FInally :)
[03:57] <MikeTheC> Well, I can't get it to boot the CD once it's switched out of Mac OS and entered the RAM Disk.
[03:57] <jimcooncat> ctqucl, I don't think it will make you a new /home/~ for your user though
[03:57] <MikeTheC> I've tried passing various kernel arguments, nogo.
[03:58] <Victor```> do other live cds work
[03:58] <Victor```> and have you tried the alternate install CD
[03:58] <MikeTheC> I've also made sure that I've got all the files named correctly and placed correctly.
[03:58] <MikeTheC> Victor```: I haven't tried pulling down any other ISOs, no.
[03:59] <MikeTheC> I mean, I know it works because I can get the CD to boot on a New World ROM Mac (an iMac G4).
[03:59] <ctqucl> I am not be good at englistso please dont mind I know slowly
[03:59] <Victor```> MikeTheC: http://ftp.wayne.edu/linux_distributions/ubuntu/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-alternate-powerpc.iso
[04:00] <caucas> hi guys
[04:00] <MikeTheC> Victor```: What's different about the Alternate PowerPC iso?
[04:00] <Victor```> it doesn't boot an X session off the CD
[04:00] <reverseblade> !hi | caucas
[04:00] <ubotu> caucas: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:00] <MikeTheC> Victor```: (D/L iit now, btw)
[04:00] <caucas> hello 4ubotu
[04:00] <caucas> thank you
[04:01] <Victor```> some machines like the alternate disc
[04:01] <MikeTheC> Hmm...
[04:01] <Victor```> it installs the same things though
[04:01] <Victor```> you can even install a command line system
[04:01] <Victor```> I use the same disc to install Xubuntu, Kubuntu, or Ubuntu
[04:02] <MikeTheC> Dumb question: Is the kernel and ramdisk that's on it available independantly? (Or would that be compatible)?
[04:02] <Victor```> I can install a command-line system and install 'kubuntu-desktop', 'xubuntu-desktop', or 'ubuntu-desktop'
[04:02] <caucas> The Ubuntu Alternate CD uses the text installer instead of the new GUI installer. It needs less system memory and permits advanced installs with preseeded options as well as LVM or RAID disk configurations.
[04:02] <Victor```> yes
[04:02] <reverseblade> !alternate
[04:02] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[04:02] <amir> Where can you get help on how to remove linux?
[04:02] <xstasi> hi
[04:02] <xstasi> i can't find alsasconf on edgy
[04:02] <Victor```> amir: remove it completely? just remove the partition
[04:02] <xstasi> is it normal?
[04:02] <reverseblade> amir, remove ?, why?
[04:02] <gan|y|med> what debian release is edgy built on?
[04:03] <caucas> do not you like ubuntu?
[04:03] <caucas> ubuntu is considered to be the best distro
[04:03] <Victor```> no it isn't
[04:03] <reverseblade> gan|y|med, it is not built on a  specific version I guess
[04:03] <Victor```> there is no "best distro"
[04:03] <caucas> at least the most visited distro around the world
[04:03] <reverseblade> There ,s
[04:04] <xstasi> anyone knows?
[04:04] <MikeTheC> Well, here's the deal. BootX loads, loads the kernel and the ramdisk, unloads Mac OS 9.1, launches the ramdisk, and then eventually fails to ever read the root partition, giving an error to that effect.
[04:04] <gan|y|med> just got sid as an answer in kubuntu
[04:04] <faeryNatsuki> jrib, i have now flash 7 working on the machine :)
[04:04] <reverseblade> faeryNatsuki, flash 9 is also working nicely
[04:04] <Victor```> I really don't know Macs
[04:04] <caucas> this is subjective but there are many people using ubuntu than other distros
[04:04] <MikeTheC> I've been reading the various different self-help sites, but everyone glosses over any kind of details in that area.
[04:05] <amir> reverseblade: remove ubuntu compleatly because I can't install xp without removing ubuntu, Why i want to remove it, its because of a game I can't play in ubuntu
[04:05] <faeryNatsuki> reverseblade: flash 9 is giving me no sound in any browser
[04:05] <SteveT> Hello all, I need some help with my multimedia plugins. Can anyone help my get streaming video using helix? When trying to watch a video on the BBC news site, I get an error such as: "Bad Transport (rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/news/media/news_web/video/40545000/nb/40545855_nb_16x9.rm?title="BBC%20News"&author="http://news.bbc.co.uk/"&copyright="(C)%20British%20Broadcasting%20Corporation")"
[04:05] <Victor```> MikeTheC: http://www.gifford.co.uk/~coredump/beigeg3.htm
[04:05] <faeryNatsuki> and i don'r know what the problem is
[04:05] <MikeTheC> Well, you see, with what are called "Old World ROM" Macs (which the Beige PowerMac G3 was the last of), you can't directly boot the CD.
[04:05] <reverseblade> faeryNatsuki, strange, works perfectly here
[04:05] <caucas> I have both windows xp and ubuntu on my pc
[04:05] <adaptr> my condoleances :)
[04:05] <caucas> first you must install windows xp
[04:05] <xstasi> where is alsaconf on ubuntu?
[04:05] <MikeTheC> Yeah, that was the first one I looked at.
[04:06] <caucas> and then you install ubuntu on other partiion
[04:06] <Victor```> I have Windows XP, Solaris, Ubuntu, and FreeBSD installed
[04:06] <Victor```> :)
[04:06] <caucas> guahh
[04:06] <MikeTheC> Anyhow, the newer ones can find the yaboot stuff on the CD and boot from it immediately.
[04:06] <caucas> guauu
[04:06] <faeryNatsuki> i thing the same it's really weird
[04:06] <faeryNatsuki> because it worked before!
[04:06] <caucas> I would like to try that installation
[04:06] <reverseblade> amir, what you have to do , is to have some unparitined space to install windows, and install it there. If you are too much confused, this way is easier , first install windows andthen install ubuntu
[04:06] <reverseblade> amir, to remove it you have nothing to do, installing windows will wipe ubuntu out
[04:07] <reverseblade> amir, which game btw ?
[04:07] <MikeTheC> What BootX does is let the Mac go as far as it's ROMs make it (that is, load an Apple OS), then it interrupts the process and switches over to Linux, which can then be booted.
[04:07] <caucas> I know there are many people who prefer using windows xp
[04:07] <amir> reverseblade: I can't install xp without doing something to my hardriver, because xp need ntfs or fat to be installed on
[04:07] <MikeTheC> It's a pain in the ass, and the only reason I'm even trying it is I've got this old dinosaur and I'd like to set it up as a local fileserver.
[04:07] <caucas> since that packets they have only work on that system
[04:07] <caucas> but you might use wine
[04:07] <reverseblade> caucas, windows is not yet a complete replacemnt of linux. there are many applications of which there is no linux alternative
[04:08] <Victor```> I need to boot into Windows to clean out my Windows partition, ugh
[04:08] <amir> reverseblade: continuum, subspace http://wine.getcontinuum.com/
[04:08] <caucas> wine is improving the quality to recognize a lot of software to work windows programs
[04:08] <caucas> on linux
[04:08] <Victor```> reverseblade: many if not all consumer applications have a free alternative
[04:09] <shack> hey, there. I've set up my ftp server, but how can I make users to access and send files to upload directory, but not to delete files from upload dir?
[04:09] <Victor```> I know there are special applications that do not yet have free alternatives
[04:09] <shack> I'm using vsftp
[04:09] <Victor```> but the free software community is huge
[04:09] <reverseblade> amir, no need to install windows for this game. This game runs on linux as well
[04:09] <reverseblade> amir, http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=3703&iTestingId=4636
[04:09] <amir> reverseblade: It says so but I cant get it to work
[04:10] <reverseblade> amir, at what stage you are stuck ?
[04:10] <caucas> Victor, how did you install all the distros you said you have into your h.h.
[04:10] <amir> reverseblade: I know i have followed the guide but I get stuck at one stage and I cant do anything about it
[04:10] <caucas> ??
[04:10] <reverseblade> amir, does the game run ?
[04:10] <amir> reverseblade: ill descibe it, wait
[04:12] <reverseblade> shack, I dont think it is an easy task, you have to run a cron job that eachtime it sets those files, unwriteable
[04:12] <SteveT> hello all, can anyone help me with helix?
[04:12] <bXi> fun little experiment
[04:12] <bXi> upgrade warty to edgy
[04:12] <reverseblade> helix is a geometrical shape I suppose
[04:12] <bXi> without going trough hoary or dapper
[04:13] <shack> reverseblade any quides I could follow on that?
[04:13] <reverseblade> bXi, what happened ?
[04:13] <jrib> bXi: success?
[04:13] <shack> reverseblade that is something I also tought, but I have no clue how to do that
[04:13] <bXi> reverseblade: nothing
[04:13] <reverseblade> shack, no, but may I ask why do you have such a requirement ?
[04:13] <bXi> just installed warty
[04:13] <adaptr> shack: depends on your server, but it should be easy to make an "anonymous drop" as it is called
[04:14] <SteveT> I keep getting an "Bad Transport" error when trying to view video on the BBC news.
[04:14] <adaptr> reverseblade: very common requirement
[04:14] <shack> reverseblade just if I have server up and someone wants to mess up with my upload dir he can del all files from there
[04:14] <mdke> can anyone suggest programs for designing nice greetings cards?
[04:14] <faeryNatsuki> now i have a problem, i could tell firefox to use aoss, but i want to say the same to opera, any idea?
[04:14] <shack> reverseblade tought only trusted users are let in, but some one could do it accidently
[04:15] <reverseblade> shack, AFAIKi you can assign each user, a different directory on the file system
[04:15] <jrib> shack: you can set the sticky bit on a directory, I don't know if ftp affects that at all
[04:15] <reverseblade> jrib, unix permissions must affect any service
[04:16] <jrib> shack: actually I guess that wouldn't work, that would only prevent them from deleting others' files anyway
[04:16] <shack> is there anyway that those files would change to other user when uploaded?
[04:16] <amir> reverseblade:  Here its to long to write it here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/749/
[04:16] <shack> as said I'm using vsftpd
[04:16] <reverseblade> shack, is this a file server within your LAN or you need a real FTP serve available within the internet
[04:17] <shack> it is available within the internet
[04:17] <reverseblade> shack, yes but is it a requirement ?
[04:17] <shack> yes it is
[04:17] <reverseblade> okay
[04:17] <shack> so i can move files from my workplace
[04:18] <shack> tought i can live without of solution to this problem, but it would be nice to get this done properly
[04:18] <reverseblade> then prolly , assigning a directory for each user should do the trick
[04:18] <helpmeplz> help me please, I keep getting Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[04:18] <helpmeplz> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[04:18] <Beforewisdom> Is there a tv card app for ubuntu, that records, besides xawtv, zapping, and mythtv?
[04:18] <reverseblade> shack, you can use local users on that system
[04:18] <adaptr> helpmeplz: so.. do you have it installed ?
[04:18] <helpmeplz> I have nvidia-glx installed
[04:18] <jrib> shack: http://vsftpd.beasts.org/vsftpd_conf.html suggests you can set the umask to whatever you want, that should work.  Just don't give anyone write permissions ont he files
[04:19] <adaptr> helpthat is *not* what it complains about - you need to install the restricted-modules for you kernel, then reboot
[04:19] <faeryNatsuki> jrib, any idea in how to say opera to use aoss sound wraper?
[04:19] <adaptr> oh, okay - bye
[04:19] <jrib> faeryNatsuki: no, I don't know how
[04:19] <shack> what does umask do?
[04:19] <faeryNatsuki> ok, thanks :)
[04:20] <reverseblade> shack, checked this ? http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=3703&iTestingId=4636?
[04:20] <adaptr> shack: it limits the permissions users may assign to new files
[04:20] <GuerrillaWon> I'm trying to register my nick with nickserv per the channels requirements, but it's freezing my computer, I assume just the window interface, which raises the question, is there a way to force my way out of a system freeze?
[04:20] <adaptr> GuerrillaWon: ctrl-alt-backspace will restart X
[04:20] <reverseblade> GuerrillaWon, which client do you use for IRC ?
[04:20] <vergil> Guerill: ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:21] <GuerrillaWon> I'd like to try to register again but I'm hammering my system with these restarts.
[04:21] <adaptr> GuerrillaWon: but it is a last resort
[04:21] <vergil> if you're in X
[04:21] <GuerrillaWon> Ok thanks.
[04:21] <vergil> if you're on console, chances are you hit ctrl-s... hit ctrl-q
[04:21] <GuerrillaWon> I'm using the all power chatzilla
[04:21] <GuerrillaWon> powerfull*
[04:21] <GuerrillaWon> And to register is just /register?
[04:21] <reverseblade> GuerrillaWon, use xchat then :) but real men use irssi :)
[04:22] <GuerrillaWon> ok I'll look into them.
[04:22] <Beforewisdom> Is there a tv card app for ubuntu, that records, besides xawtv, zapping, and mythtv?
[04:22] <bXi> freevo maybe?
[04:22] <GuerrillaWon> oops /ns register
[04:22] <Beforewisdom> thanks
[04:22] <caucas> victor, are you there?
[04:22] <Beforewisdom> exit
[04:22] <Beforewisdom> quit
[04:23] <amir> reverseblade: do you know what im doing wrong?
[04:25] <reverseblade> amir, no. but have you checked the link I have given ?
[04:25] <amir> reverseblade:  the wine link?
[04:25] <reverseblade> amir, also you can install windows via vmware within linux
[04:25] <reverseblade> yes
[04:26] <amir>  thank you
[04:26] <Victor```> I hope this partition resizes correctly
[04:28] <frojnd> what packages do I ndeed to install that I can see movies on youtube.com with firefox?
[04:28] <amir> reverseblade:  I dont understand how to follow the guide there
[04:28] <Victor```> !flash | frojnd
[04:28] <ubotu> frojnd: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:28] <black_abaddon> ...
[04:30] <reverseblade> amir, sorry
[04:30] <reverseblade> GuerrillaWon, lol
[04:30] <black_abaddon> vol
[04:31] <black_abaddon> bye bye
[04:31] <bagus_dewe> gfghjhjkj
[04:33] <vleon> ok ihave two questions
[04:33] <vleon> 1) i have to machines in my home, one of the is pentium 3
[04:34] <vleon> would gnome be able to run well on it or am i doomed to use xfce?
[04:34] <bulmer> why dont you try?
[04:34] <tonsofpcs> What config methods does edgy eft use for app executions on startup?
[04:34] <mooey> vleon, gnome should be fine on such a machine. the more cpu and ram the better, but it will work for sure
[04:34] <NkZ> Hey guys. Know where I can get a Wifi Strenght indicator?
[04:34] <jrib> tonsofpcs: config methods?  What do you mean?
[04:35] <tonsofpcs> jrib: how do I change what starts on startup
[04:35] <vleon> 100% sure? i only want to be able to run movies on tv out, surf on the net and maybe play some old games
[04:35] <mooey> NkZ, right click a panel, click add applet and add the network monitor applet. right click -> properties, set it to your wireless card and it will display the signal strength
[04:35] <vleon> but i dont want my system to freeze
[04:35] <Kkeksas> hi all :)
[04:35] <jrib> tonsofpcs: startup when you login as your user or during boot?
[04:35] <mooey> tonsofpcs, do you mean when the system boots or when you log in?
[04:35] <mooey> howdy, Kkeksas
[04:35] <vleon> or run vey slowly
[04:36] <mooey> vleon, xfce is fast. how much ram is in the pc?
[04:36] <NkZ> Thanx mooey :-)
[04:36] <rvalles> hi
[04:36] <vleon> well i didnt check
[04:36] <mooey> aloha, rvalles
[04:36] <rvalles> are there packages of the patched qemu for kvm for edgy?
[04:36] <vleon> but not much
[04:36] <tonsofpcs> jrib: system boots... I'm running "andLinuxPreBeta" and it includes edgy eft and it defaults to running gui apps as root, I want to change those to run as a user
[04:36] <vleon> anyway i can upgrade the ram if thats the only problem...
[04:37] <vleon> maybe this fact will give you a clue
[04:37] <mooey> vleon, try gnome, see if it is ok for you. it likes ram so that will help. its much a case of suck it and see unfortunatly, not so easy to predict what speed you are happy with :~)
[04:37] <vleon> i couldnt install xubuntu on it in regular install only alternate
[04:38] <vleon> im happy with any spped that will smothly run my movies and let me surf on the net
[04:38] <riz-o> Hi i can't boot into ubuntu
[04:38] <riz-o> i get a kernel panic error
[04:38] <jrib> tonsofpcs: see 'man update-rc.d' and !upstart I guess.  I'm not familiar with what "andLinuxPreBeta" is at all, but what you describe isn't default behavior for edgy
[04:38] <jrib> !upstart | tonsofpcs
[04:38] <ubotu> tonsofpcs: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[04:38] <mooey> vleon, install regular ubuntu and try it. if its not fast enough, all you need todo is 'sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop' and it will seitch
[04:38] <riz-o> how i can  recover ubuntu
[04:38] <mooey> *seitch -> switch
[04:38] <NkZ> mooey that worked perfectly. :-) Many thanks! :-)
[04:39] <mooey> no problem, NkZ
[04:39] <wheels3572> How do I check permissions in GAIM?
[04:39] <jrib> wheels3572: permissions of what?
[04:39] <mooey> wheels3572, permissions of what?
[04:39] <mooey> aheh
[04:39] <mooey> :D
 wow its easier than i thought :)
[04:39] <vleon> ok ill do that
[04:39] <wheels3572> jrib, mooey i honestly dont know.  I was asked if I have checked permissions in gaim
[04:40] <vleon> i have a second question
[04:40] <mooey> wheels3572, what led you to need to check them? can you expand on the problem?
[04:40] <jrib> wheels3572: ask the person that asked you :)  But I'm guessing he means ~/.gaim
[04:40] <tonsofpcs> yea, i think its using that... how do I list the scripts taht are set up?
[04:40] <wheels3572> jrib, only noe problem.  I did and have no reply they are gone idle grrrrrrrrrrrr
[04:40] <vleon> can you direct me to a good up to date guide, script or proggram that inables me to run tv-out with an nvidia card (i know how to install the binary drivers)
[04:41] <jrib> wheels3572: well what was the original issue?
[04:41] <wheels3572> mooey, to better help you understand.  I have no logging in gaim anymore after lastnight but if I run gksu gaim it logs just fine.  So I was asked to check permissions in gaim
[04:41] <wheels3572> jrib,  to better help you understand.  I have no logging in gaim anymore after lastnight but if I run gksu gaim it logs just fine.  So I was asked to check permissions in gaim
[04:42] <jrib> tonsofpcs: edgy uses upstart which is described on the above web page, but in edgy it is still just loading the old scripts in /etc/init.d/, so the manpage for update-rc.d will describe that
[04:42] <jrib> wheels3572: where does it log to?
[04:43] <vleon> can you direct me to a good up to date guide, script or programm that enables me to run tv-out with an nvidia card (i know how to install the binary drivers)?
[04:43] <wheels3572> jrib, that I dont understand whta you mean.  All I know is I have im logging and chat enabled in all of gaim itself.  It stopped working after tlastnight.
[04:43] <jakob> how do I make "make install" install to a certain directory?
[04:43] <wheels3572> jrib, are you asking for the path
[04:43] <jrib> wheels3572: yes
[04:43] <wheels3572> if so it's $HOME/.gaim/yahoo/wheels351972
[04:43] <jrib> jakob: ./configure --prefix=WHATEVER   usually
[04:44] <jrib> wheels3572: find ~/.gaim ! -user $USER
[04:44] <wheels3572> jrib, if so it's $HOME/.gaim/yahoo/wheels351972
[04:44] <wheels3572> ok
[04:44] <wheels3572> jrib, under filemanager or CLI?
[04:44] <jrib> wheels3572: cli
[04:45] <jakob> jrib, I get no such file or directory when I type ./configure
[04:45] <jrib> jakob: then consult the documentation for your application
[04:46] <jakob> jrib, I would but it's a plugin and I haven't been able to find anything on it
[04:46] <wheels3572> jrib, that command find ~/.gaim  ! -user $USER goes right back to cli command prompt
[04:46] <jrib> jakob: what plugin?
[04:46] <mooey> wheels3572, is logging deffinatly turned on in the gaim settings?
[04:46] <jakob> libtile. When I run make install it returns "install   : /root/.beryl/plugins/libtile.so.so-e"
[04:47] <faeryNatsuki> my flash player trouble is related to the plugin itself and not with firefox, i testes it in seamonkey and opera and it gives me no sound, maybe it is confusing the soundcard :(
[04:47] <ctqucl> I want to know which group the default user adds on?
[04:47] <wheels3572> mooey, oh yeah no doubt.  Under preferences and logging all 3 areas are checked
[04:47] <wheels3572> and in individual windows all boxes are checkmarked
[04:47] <jakob> jrib, but I want it to unstall to /usr/lib/beryl
[04:47] <vleon> can someone direct me to a good up to date guide, script or programm that enables me to run tv-out with an nvidia card (i know how to install the binary drivers)?
[04:47] <ctqucl> my problem is not to create a id
[04:47] <riotkittie> faeryNatsuki, and your problem is with the flash 9 beta?
[04:48] <jrib> jakob: is there anything more to installing the plugin than running 'make install' ?
[04:48] <bulmer> ctqucl: cat /etc/group
[04:48] <mooey> wheels3572, enter into a console: sudo chown -R YOUR_USERNAME ~/.gaim/logs
[04:48] <faeryNatsuki> yes riotkittie, is with the flash 9 beta
[04:48] <jakob> jrib, not as far as I know. All I need is for it install to the right directory
[04:48] <jrib> jakob: read the Makefile then
[04:48] <mnoir> ctqucl: what do you mean default user and what do you mean adds on
[04:48] <adam_12> how can i tell if both the cores in my prosesor r being used? coz i think only one is being used
[04:49] <lukillas> people, i've got a question, i downloaded java runtime from sun and installed it, make the simbolic link but when i enter a page containing java, firefox restarts, i tried to install jre from synaptic with same results, what can i do?
[04:49] <jakob> jrib, thanks. I think I found it :D
[04:49] <mnoir> !java | lukillas
[04:49] <ctqucl> the groups same as the user when we install system add.
[04:49] <ubotu> lukillas: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[04:49] <jrib> lukillas: you need sun-java5-plugin
[04:49] <faeryNatsuki> riotkittie: do you know something about it?
[04:49] <lukillas> ubotu, jrib: thanks i'll try
[04:49] <ikonia> adam_12: use top and see if it shows both processors
[04:49] <amadeus> hello ....
[04:50] <riotkittie> faeryNatsuki, no, sorry
[04:50] <adam_12> ikonia: wat is top?
[04:50] <asph> hiya again
[04:50] <ikonia> adam_12: top is a command
[04:50] <mnoir> ctqucl: i still do not understand your question.  to see the groups of the use that you are looged on as, type id in a terminal
[04:50] <ikonia> or do "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[04:50] <wheels3572> mooey, I keep getting invalid user
[04:50] <ikonia> and see if you see both cpu's
[04:50] <riotkittie> faeryNatsuki, did this version of flash ever provide sound for you?
[04:50] <ikonia> riotkittie: only flash 9 provides sound on most sites
[04:51] <ikonia> flash 7 won't play any later flash built sites
[04:51] <mnoir> ctqucl: IF you add a user, only a new group same as userid is created and assigned
[04:51] <ikonia> with sound
[04:51] <ctqucl> mnoir: I want to copy a user that the purview same as the user we install the system,I have lost it
[04:51] <bulmer> ctqucl: cat /etc/group  and see which group a user is added to
[04:51] <mnoir> ctqucl: to see all the members of groups, cat the /etc/groups file
[04:51] <riotkittie> ikonia, i know but faeryNatsuki is using 9 beta and not getting sound
[04:52] <ikonia> riotkittie: I'll bet he messed up the install - thats the most common
[04:52] <vleon> can someone direct me to a good up to date guide, script or programm that enables me to run tv-out with an nvidia card (i know how to install the binary drivers)?
[04:52] <vleon> !tv-out
[04:52] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out on certain NVidia cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition
[04:52] <ikonia> as there is no install routine for it
[04:52] <ctqucl> so I want to choose the right group to add. mnoir
[04:52] <mnoir> ctqucl: you want to put back a user you removed or add a user that was on another system?
[04:53] <riotkittie> ikonia,  yeah i was going to suggest a removal and reinstall if they hadnt already done so
[04:53] <mnoir> ctqucl: how shall you determine the correct group to give the user?
[04:53] <vleon> ubotu you are so cool (too bad that you are only a programm
[04:53] <ubuntux> someone know how to sync a symbian phone with evolution?
[04:53] <vleon> mooey thanks for your help
[04:53] <faeryNatsuki> riotkittie: i'm not sure, i have sound befire, but not now :(
[04:53] <adam_12> ikonia: Cpu(s):  3.0%us,  1.7%sy,  0.0%ni, 94.7%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.7%si,  0.0%st.
[04:53] <adam_12> is this wat im ment to b looking at and if it is then how do i tell if both of the prosesors r in use
[04:54] <hjmills> should it really take 4 minutes to login to the freenode server?
[04:54] <mnoir> ctqucl: i know i can help as soon as i can understand :)
[04:54] <ikonia> adam_12: just do cat /proc/cpuinfo and see if they are both there as you obviously arn't advanced enough to read commands like top
[04:54] <ctqucl> have same purview or power
[04:54] <mooey> vleon, no problem. wheels3572, i've got to go away for a bit, sorry, good luck solving the problem.
[04:54] <adam_12> ikonia: haha k im only 14
[04:54] <ikonia> so /
[04:55] <ikonia> ?
[04:55] <hjmills> lol
[04:55] <riotkittie> heh
[04:55] <riotkittie> i feel old now
[04:55] <hjmills> im sure i could have understood "top" when i was 14
[04:55] <ikonia> riotkittie: me too
[04:55] <mnoir> ctqucl: so right now the group you want to add is in the groups file?
[04:55] <ctqucl> I create a new user ,but it can
[04:55] <ikonia> hjmills: yup - hence why I said "so"
[04:55] <linuxnewuserr> hey I jusst installed Ubuntu 6.10 (install was easy and fast)  I don't know how to compile or install apps
[04:55] <linuxnewuserr> I don't know how to install chatzilla
[04:56] <adam_12> lol i dont care i have a life :P
[04:56] <ctqucl> yes
[04:56] <mnoir> k sec
[04:56] <ikonia> linuxnewuserr: the fact that your asking that suggest you shouldn't be compiling anything.
[04:56] <hjmills> adam_12: almost everybody in this chat room is alive, with the notable exception of ubotu
[04:56] <narvik86> linuxnewuserr: download it form mozilla's site
[04:56] <riotkittie> i had a life when i was 14. i also had the ability to read.
[04:56] <hjmills> !install | linuxnewuserr
[04:56] <ubotu> linuxnewuserr: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[04:56] <ikonia> linuxnewuserr: check the wiki http://wiki.ubuntu.com and learn how to use apt-get
[04:56] <linuxnewuserr> yeah butI don't know how to compile
[04:56] <linuxnewuserr> thanks
[04:56] <hjmills> !synaptic | linuxnewuserr
[04:56] <ubotu> linuxnewuserr: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[04:57] <wheels3572> mooey, ok ty
[04:57] <ctqucl> I want to have a user that the power same the we create by users-admin named 'desktop-user'
[04:57] <ikonia> linuxnewuserr: all the omre reason for you not to do it
[04:57] <linuxnewuserr> ?
[04:57] <ctqucl> but my users-admin is broken
[04:57] <hjmills> linuxnewuserr: what do you want to install?
[04:57] <linuxnewuserr> I'm new to ubuntu and linux
[04:57] <I-kido> linuxnewuserr try synaptic first, u can compile after a few years
[04:57] <linuxnewuserr> I have to install chatzilla, flash player
[04:57] <ikonia> linuxnewuserr: thats great, but 2 people have sent you links to read
[04:57] <linuxnewuserr> I know that
[04:57] <ikonia> read them
[04:57] <linuxnewuserr> I am
[04:57] <mnoir> ctqucl: the command is usermod -G newgrouptoadd loginname  OR you can alter the groups file to add the user to the group
[04:57] <SimonLoftus> hiya nokia
[04:57] <ikonia> hello
[04:58] <hjmills> linuxnewuserr: look on the wiki for flash - you cant compile it anyway as its not open source
[04:58] <hjmills> !flash | linuxnewuserr
[04:58] <ubotu> linuxnewuserr: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:58] <SimonLoftus> don't suppose you know how to make a shortcut for a folder
[04:58] <bulmer> ctqucl: do you have such a group called user-admin? i dont think so
[04:58] <ikonia> SimonLoftus: right click
[04:58] <mena> i had a problem with firefox browser...i cant open any site and i dont use any proxy service...any one know why
[04:58] <linuxnewuserr> k
[04:58] <SimonLoftus> I can only find out how for files and apps
[04:58] <mnoir> ctqucl: you should fix user management too
[04:58] <linuxnewuserr> thanks
[04:58] <AlexC_> Hey,
[04:58] <riotkittie> desktop shortcut, SimonLoftus ?
[04:58] <SimonLoftus> yah
[04:58] <AlexC_> Has anyone used Gajim?
[04:58] <ikonia> SimonLoftus: strike that - there is no option on right click
[04:58] <ikonia> my mistake
[04:58] <SimonLoftus> :)
[04:58] <hjmills> should it really take 4 minutes to login to the freenode server?
[04:58] <SimonLoftus> hello again riot
[04:59] <mnoir> AlexC_: gajim??
[04:59] <SimonLoftus> no hjmills
[04:59] <I-kido> sudo apt-get install chatzilla flashplugin-nonfree
[04:59] <SimonLoftus> like 2 seconds for me
[04:59] <AlexC_> mnoir: yeah it's a fork of Gaim but works with Jabber, looks intresting.
[04:59] <jrib> SimonLoftus: just use "file" and provide the path to the directory
[04:59] <ctqucl> not group named users-admin,it's a gnome-system-tools
[04:59] <ikonia> hjmills: it can be slow if you have no reverse dns
[04:59] <AlexC_> mnoir: I was just wondering if I could connect to the MSN protocol thingy with Jabber?
[04:59] <SimonLoftus> it wouldnt lemme select the folder
[04:59] <SimonLoftus> let me try :)
[04:59] <hjmills> ikonia: how can i get reverse dns?
[04:59] <riotkittie> SimonLoftus, - try right clickind on the desktop > create launcher  and select DIRECTORY as the type?
[04:59] <eyalw> hi guys
[05:00] <SimonLoftus> i have no directory as type
[05:00] <ikonia> hjmills: speak to your isp - you may already have it and thats no the problem
[05:00] <mnoir> AlexC_: hmm - i use PSI already for jabber and icq
[05:00] <jrib> SimonLoftus: you're right, it won't let you select, but it works if you type it out
[05:00] <hjmills> ikonia: i am on tiscali - do they have it or dont you know?
[05:00] <AlexC_> mnoir: PSI, is that just another jabber client?
[05:00] <ctqucl> we can use users-admin create a kind of user named 'desktop-user', not I want to create a user that the power like the 'desktop-user'.
[05:00] <eyalw> I have installed ssh, but there's no .ssh dir, why?
[05:00] <riotkittie> hm.
[05:00] <jrib> SimonLoftus: you could also just have it run the command "nautilus /foo/bar"
[05:00] <ikonia> AlexC_: why have you come to an ubuntu support channel to talk about and ask for help on an app thats not in any of the ubuntu repo's
[05:00] <SimonLoftus> i got it :D
[05:00] <ikonia> hjmills: they should certainly have it
[05:00] <jakob> is there a way to "zoom out", without increasing resolution?
[05:01] <brice> hi there
[05:01] <SimonLoftus> i just selected the file inside the folder
[05:01] <mnoir> AlexC_: it does all im type things plus some other communications and services
[05:01] <brice> is there someone for tzll me what's wrong in my worg
[05:01] <SimonLoftus> then in properties on the shortcut went to the far right tab and changed it :)
[05:01] <adam_12> im realy new to ubuntu so i suk. i have run the command cat /proc/cpuinfo but i still cant tell if both my prosesors cores are being used (coz i dont know wat im looking at lol)
[05:01] <SimonLoftus> thanks jrib
[05:01] <brice> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/737/
[05:01] <lale> hey all
[05:01] <hjmills> ikonia: do i need to forward any ports on my router or would dyndns muck it up>
[05:01] <lale> I just installed feisty
[05:01] <lale> herd 1
[05:01] <lale> it rocks
[05:01] <ikonia> hjmills: ahhh that could be the problem
[05:01] <hjmills> ikonia: the dyndns?
[05:01] <ikonia> changing your forward dns name, will effect the zone it looks up on reverse
[05:02] <AlexC_> mnoir: do I have to have a jabber account to talk on MSN via jabber?
[05:02] <ctqucl> I want to konw which groups that 'desktop-user' add.
[05:02] <ikonia> hjmills: it "can" not "does" cause problems
[05:02] <jakob> brice, what happens when you boot?
[05:02] <riotkittie> adam_12, >> did it list one processor or two?
[05:02] <ikonia> AlexC_: ask the application support team for that app
[05:02] <hjmills> ikonia: so if i forwarded the ports for irc to my pc would that fix it?
[05:02] <eyalw> I have installed ssh, but there's no .ssh dir, why?>??
[05:02] <ikonia> hjmills: probably not
[05:02] <mnoir> ctqucl: sorry i am still having problems understanding - you do not want to create a duplicate of desktop user or you DO want to create a duplicate?
[05:02] <lale> Just a question: the update utility tells me I should do a dist-upgrade.  Why? Should I say OK?
[05:03] <adam_12> riotkittie: only one
[05:03] <brice> jakob, boot information on the second screen
[05:03] <ctqucl> yes mnoir ,have same power.
[05:03] <brice> jakob, after i only have the first screen. impossible to have the second
[05:03] <narvik86> eyalw: how do you check for .ssh folder?
[05:03] <riotkittie> adam_12, then i will venture a guess that only one processor is being used
[05:03] <hjmills> ikonia: bummerz
[05:03] <SimonLoftus> brice, is there an ok button but u cant use it with enter?
[05:03] <mena> i had a problem with firefox browser...i cant open any site and i dont use any proxy service...any one know why....And Iam The Root user
[05:04] <ctqucl> because my users-admin is broken ,so I can
[05:04] <I-kido> lale it should be ok to upgrade, I see no harm in renewing ur system :)
[05:04] <cornell> Hi...  Trying to install keepassx, from source.  The install instructions on their site say to unpack it, run qmake, then make, and then make install.  I don't seem to have qmake.  What does it do, and is there a ubuntu "native" utility that does the same?
[05:04] <hjmills> ikonia: could that also muck up gaim logging into google talk?
[05:04] <eyalw> narvik86: I looked for it in my home directory, after revealing the hidden folders
[05:04] <ctqucl> so I can't create the user by it
[05:04] <jakob> brice did you make the xorg.conf with "nvidia settings"?
[05:04] <adam_12> riotkittie: lol i kinda guessed that. so hw do i get them both working?
[05:04] <brice> SimonLoftus, ???
[05:04] <brice> jakob, i think
[05:04] <lale> I-kido: uhm OK.  But don't I have the feisty repos already? What repositories is he going to activate?
[05:04] <SimonLoftus> brice, <brice> jakob, after i only have the first screen. impossible to have the second
[05:04] <mnoir> ctqucl: ok you will need to do 3 things - use the useradd command to add new user, second - make alterations in one line in /etc/passwd, third, add user to correct groups in /etc/groups
[05:04] <brice> SimonLoftus, jakob i have 2 Pci Cards
[05:05] <narvik86> eyalw: i have there only one file know_hosts, so probably directory will be crated after few connections
[05:05] <I-kido> lale feisty is beta, i wouldn't upgrade yet
[05:05] <I-kido> lale unless u r a developper :0
[05:05] <riotkittie> adam_12, i wouldnt know. try searching the forums . there is a wealth of knowledge there.
[05:05] <lale> I-kido: I'm currently running feisty
[05:05] <Prt9> hi, is bluetooth dongle supported by ubuntu?
[05:06] <mnoir> ctqucl: also a different native language support group may be easier for you :)
[05:06] <lale> I-kido: I just installed it from scratch (herd 1)
[05:06] <jakob> brice, which of them doesn't work?
[05:06] <ikonia> adam_12: have you worked out if its one cpu or 2
[05:06] <mnoir> ctqucl: and me :)
[05:06] <eyalw> narvik86: i see... hmm, i'm reading a tutorial about ssh, and they explain how to create encripted keys and place them inside .ssh
[05:06] <droide> bonjour
[05:06] <lukillas> well, i instaled sun-java5-plugin but it did not show in firefox when i entered about:plugins
[05:06] <lale> I-kido: no problems in it being unstable
[05:06] <SimonLoftus> bonjour
[05:06] <ctqucl> I just want to know which groups  I need,because I lost the one I have.
[05:06] <eyalw> narvik86: what are u suggesting
[05:06] <SimonLoftus> more like bonsoir though, its all dark here
[05:06] <jrib> lukillas: did you restart firefox?
[05:06] <I-kido> lale feisty will be released in april
[05:06] <brice> jakob, the second (but it works when i boot. or when i do ctrl + Alt + F1)
[05:06] <lukillas> jrib: yes i did
[05:06] <Prt9> can ubuntu support bluetootch dongle?
[05:07] <jrib> lukillas: what does 'apt-cache policy sun-java5-plugin | grep -i installed' say?
[05:07] <narvik86> eyalw: i you use ssh to connect to remote machine, first connection will take smth like fingerprint, and store it in .ssh/knows_hosts
[05:07] <brice> droide, BOnsoir comment vas tu?
[05:07] <mnoir> ctqucl: to find them you need to look inside /etc/groups
[05:07] <jakob> brice, do you get a clone if you do ctrl + alt + F1?
[05:07] <I-kido> lale: edgy runs fine, u could give it a try :)
[05:07] <SimonLoftus> Prt9, try checking on the forums
[05:07] <ikonia> why are people with NO uderstanding of ubuntu or linux in general so keen to upgrade to things that are a.) unstable b.) they have no idea what they are upgrading to
[05:07] <narvik86> eyalw: so it will be created after at least one connection
[05:07] <droide> un franais, cool ! bonsoir brice
[05:07] <mnoir> ctqucl: it will tell you what groups a user belongs to
[05:07] <lukillas> jrib: says nothing
[05:07] <droide> tu pourrait m'aider ?
[05:07] <riotkittie> uhh
[05:07] <ikonia> droide: this is an english channel
[05:07] <Prt9> droide: moi aussi !
[05:07] <SimonLoftus> the bonsoir comment was me
[05:07] <eyalw> narvik86: hmm.. ok, ill try keep on reading
[05:07] <narvik86> eyalw: try to connect somewhere and check if directory was created
[05:08] <eyalw> narvik86: tnks
[05:08] <brice> jakob, no first screen become black and second have console information
[05:08] <lale> I-kido: I just want to try feisty
[05:08] <droide> ikonia , I m very bad in english, scuse me
[05:08] <lale> I know edgy is fine :)
[05:08] <jrib> lukillas: umm, what does apt-cache policy sun-java5-plugin  say then?
[05:08] <mnoir> !fr | droide
[05:08] <ubotu> droide: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:08] <brice> droide, ;)
[05:08] <I-kido> :)
[05:08] <ctqucl> thank you,mnoir 8-)
[05:08] <AlexC_> Could someone help me connect to MSN via Gajim please?
[05:08] <lale> I-kido: I'm not having problems with feisty now
[05:08] <mnoir> ctqucl: does this help?
[05:08] <jakob> brice, and vice versa before you do ctrl alt f1?
[05:08] <ikonia> AlexC_: ubuntu doesn't support that app
[05:08] <ikonia> AlexC_: email or join the support discussion group for that application
[05:08] <brice> jakob, yes
[05:08] <lale> I-kido: it was just a question about strange behaviour of the system update app
[05:08] <riotkittie> lale,  /please/ tell me that you are not using feisty as your primary/only OS :P
[05:08] <I-kido> lale: feisty want to upgrade to what ?
[05:08] <lukillas> sun-java5-plugin:
[05:08] <droide> sur ubuntu-fr, personne ne me repond, je ne sais pas pourquoi
[05:08] <lukillas>   Instalados: (ninguno)
[05:08] <lukillas>   Candidato: 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1
[05:08] <lukillas>   Tabla de versin:
[05:08] <lukillas>      1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 0
[05:08] <lukillas>         500 http://ar.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Packages
[05:08] <jrib> !paste | lukillas
[05:09] <ubotu> lukillas: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[05:09] <brice> jakob, i can't make the 2 screens works in the same time
[05:09] <mena> i had a problem with firefox browser...i cant open any site and i dont use any proxy service...any one know why....And Iam The Root user
[05:09] <jrib> lukillas: sun-java5-plugin isn't installed
[05:09] <SimonLoftus> mena
[05:09] <ikonia> mena`you shouldn't be the root user
[05:09] <droide> brice , It's possible to help me ?
[05:09] <mena> I mean i am the only one who use the computer
[05:09] <ikonia> !fr | droide
[05:09] <ubotu> droide: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:09] <mena> nothing else
[05:09] <I-kido> lele: update is ok,  but dist-upgrade is usually a newer version of the distribution
[05:09] <SimonLoftus> root user?, do you really mean that
[05:09] <Prt9> droide: c'est poura aussi que je suis sur ce channel, ici deja, on aide.
[05:09] <brice> droide, peut etre
[05:09] <hjmills> can anybody recommend me 2 very reliable nameservers that i can always use without problems?
[05:09] <ikonia> hjmills: your ISP's
[05:10] <ikonia> hjmills: there are no "free" open ones
[05:10] <ikonia> only forwarders
[05:10] <lale> I-kido: in fact, the strange thing is that I'm running the newest one, so... :)
[05:10] <SimonLoftus> catch ya later ikonia, report making time
[05:10] <ikonia> SimonLoftus: bye
[05:10] <lukillas> jrib: thanks, i believed apt-get install sun-java5-bin installs plugin also, now about:plugins shows me  sun java too, thanks so much
[05:10] <lukillas> =)
[05:10] <hjmills> ikonia: damn - cos my isp dns servers seem to be giving me probs
[05:10] <mnoir> hjmills: you pay for reliability - are your isp's not reliable??
[05:10] <jrib> lukillas: np
[05:10] <lale> hjmills: mine too
 ,  brice , this is the link of my problem    http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=679879#p679879
[05:10] <ikonia> hjmills: mail your isp
[05:10] <I-kido> lolale: lol dont upgrade yet, only update some newer packages, they are mostly more stable
[05:11] <ikonia> its there responsability to provide dns
[05:11] <mena> ikonia, okay ,, what is the problem
[05:11] <lale> hjmills: what's your isp?
[05:11] <ikonia> mena: I don't have a problem
[05:11] <mwe> hjmills: there is opendns.com
[05:11] <adam_12> dose any one know how to get BOTH cores of my processor working?
[05:11] <brice> droide, trop complique pour moi
[05:11] <ikonia> adam_12: how do you know both are not
[05:11] <mena> ikonia, i mean with me the problem of that i cant open any thing throw the fire fox
[05:11] <jakob> brice, I've compared it to my xorg.conf and I can't find the error, if that's where it's located.
[05:11] <droide> ok brice
[05:11] <ikonia> mena: is your network configured correctly
[05:12] <user01> what do i need to install to get my mp3, ogg, flac, divx, xvid, and mov files to play correctly in edgy?
[05:12] <alink1000> how do I unarchive 7zip files?
[05:12] <jrib> !multimedia | user01
[05:12] <ubotu> user01: For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[05:12] <jrib> !7z | alink1000
[05:12] <ubotu> alink1000: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[05:12] <alex_> join #cw.pl
[05:12] <mena> ikonia, about ... i can open the gam instant messanger
[05:12] <mena> so i thing yes
[05:12] <riotkittie> ogg doesnt work out of the box? ;o
[05:12] <alink1000> Is ark in the add/remove applications? :)
[05:12] <ikonia> mena: how did you install and start firefox
[05:12] <adam_12> ikonia: because cat /proc/cpuinfo only lists one
[05:12] <linux_den> anyone know how to turn off the effect when minimizing maximizing window in ubuntu
[05:12] <brice> jakob, i don't understand too
[05:12] <Slart> there is one program I haven't been able to find a good linux-alternative for =/
[05:13] <rkgl> Hi I am having a problem  when I run sodo I get the error message "rkgl is not in the sudoers file"
[05:13] <riotkittie> what program, Slart
[05:13] <jakob> brice, if the second monitor works when you do ctrl alt f1, I don't think the xorg.conf is the problem
[05:13] <droide> thanks brice
[05:13] <ikonia> adam_12: show me the output of cat /proc/cpuinfo in a pastebin and the output of uname -a
[05:13] <droide> bye
[05:13] <pjpeter> hi i put to older hard drives in my computer to copy files to and it tells me i do not have permission when i try to copy some files to it
[05:13] <Slart> riotkittie: memory editor to cheat in games =)
[05:13] <jrib> pjpeter: what filesystem?
[05:13] <wheels3572> Can someone tell me if there is a log that tells you what updates have been installed and when?
[05:13] <riotkittie> hahaha
[05:13] <mena> ikonia, its comes with the ubuntu ce ....and i start it throw its icon
[05:13] <ikonia> wheels3572: /var/log/dpkg.log
[05:13] <ikonia> mena: whats ubuntu ce ?
[05:13] <mnoir> wheels3572: it is easy in synaptic
[05:13] <Slart> riotkittie: Linux doesn't allow programs to read memory from other processes?
[05:13] <ctqucl> now I use a user which add almost all the groups of them,because I don't know which one I need or not,but for visit some hardware,I must add it, mnoir.
[05:13] <AlexC_> ikonia: there is no where on the Gajim website to contact them or anything
[05:13] <brice> jakob, when i go to system preferences/resolution screen i see only obne screen
[05:13] <hjmills> mwe - brilliant thanks
[05:13] <mena> ikonia, ubuntu christian edition
[05:13] <ikonia> AlexC_: thats the price of using an unsupported application
[05:13] <riotkittie> Slart, that i do not know
[05:14] <ikonia> mena: sorry I don't know anything about that
[05:14] <mena> ikonia, okay its ubuntu
[05:14] <rkgl> Hi I am having a problem with sudo...
[05:14] <mena> in any way
[05:14] <mwe> hjmills: only "downside" is you'll be redirected to opendns.com for invalid lookups
[05:14] <mena> gdm
[05:14] <AlexC_> ikonia: what do you mean by unsupported ?
[05:14] <IRCMonkey> hi
[05:14] <jrib> rkgl: hi, what is the problem exactly?
[05:14] <alink1000> ahem... is ark or file-roller in add/remove applications?
[05:14] <sedra> what's the difference between ubuntu and ubuntu Christian??
[05:14] <ikonia> AlexC_: ubuntu doesn't support it
[05:14] <jakob> brice, have you tried writing a new xorg.conf from a template=
[05:14] <hjmills> mwe - meh - i can live with that if it works
[05:14] <ikonia> mena: its not its CE
[05:14] <pjpeter>  sudo mke2fs -j /dev/hdc1
[05:14] <mena> ikonia, okay sorry
[05:14] <alink1000> nvm, I found it. :)
[05:14] <mwe> hjmills: it does. and it works fast as well
[05:14] <mnoir> ctqucl: if you can logon as a user that is good, and then execute the command 'id', you can see all it's groups
[05:15] <skmidry__> how do I connect to a wireless AP on my HP laptop via WEP as it has a ipw3945 chipset
[05:15] <rkgl> jrib: when I run sudo I get the message "is not in the sudoers file"
[05:15] <IRCMonkey> !aircrack
[05:15] <ubotu> aircrack: wireless WEP/WPA cracker. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.3-3 (edgy), package size 136 kB, installed size 372 kB
[05:15] <AlexC_> ikonia: .... Canonical/Ubuntu don't support it as in they help develope, no, but thats the same with thousands of apps in the repos.
[05:15] <jrib> rkgl: is this the first user that you created during install?
[05:15] <mena> ikonia, now what is the problem bec i was openeing the browser and i was open sites normaly
[05:15] <skmidry__> I'm using dapper 6.0.6.1
[05:15] <ikonia> AlexC_: http://trac.gajim.org/newticket
[05:15] <mwe> hjmills: and at least invalid lookups get you to a google search page with the opendns front end
[05:15] <mena> ikonia, what happened
[05:15] <reverseblade> !wep | skmidry__
[05:15] <rkgl> jrib: yes
[05:15] <ubotu> skmidry__: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:15] <ikonia> AlexC_: no- this channel support ubuntu and ubuntu related packages - not random 3rd party ones that you've built yourself
[05:15] <jrib> rkgl: please tell us the output you get from the 'groups' command
[05:15] <rkgl> jrib: it worked even the last time I logged in
[05:16] <ikonia> mena: stop talking to me please
[05:16] <ctqucl> however,I want to remove the groups that I add but it's not nessary
[05:16] <AlexC_> ikonia: I have not built it my self at all. It's in the repos!
[05:16] <mena> ikonia, ok as you like thanks
[05:16] <ikonia> AlexC_: is it ? - which ones
[05:16] <jakob> brice, have you tried configuring xorg.conf for each monitor, one at the time?
[05:16] <rkgl> jrib: the output is rkgl, audio
[05:16] <wheels3572> mnoir, does that include updates that I installed through the update icon up by the clock that's in synaptic that your talking about?
[05:16] <jrib> pjpeter: if it's ext3, jus use chown and chmod to give whatever permissions you want to it
[05:16] <adam_12> ikonia: processor       : 0
[05:16] <adam_12> vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
[05:16] <adam_12> cpu family      : 15
[05:16] <adam_12> model           : 6
[05:16] <adam_12> model name      : Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz
[05:16] <adam_12> stepping        : 4
[05:16] <adam_12> cpu MHz         : 2400.000
[05:16] <riotkittie> whats in the repos, AlexC_ ?
[05:16] <AlexC_> ikonia: I don't know which one it's in, but all I did was "sudo apt-get install gajim"
[05:16] <adam_12> cache size      : 2048 KB
[05:16] <ikonia> so it is, I stand corrected
[05:16] <adam_12> fdiv_bug        : no
[05:16] <adam_12> hlt_bug         : no
[05:16] <AlexC_> riotkittie: gajim
[05:16] <faeryNatsuki> boys... there's a way to make swiftfox use other language packs?
[05:16] <mnoir> ctqucl: to remove - try to edit the /etc/groups file, remove users, NOT the whole line!!
[05:16] <adam_12> f00f_bug        : no
[05:16] <adam_12> coma_bug        : no
[05:16] <adam_12> fpu             : yes
[05:16] <adam_12> fpu_exception   : yes
[05:16] <AlexC_> PASTE BINJ
[05:16] <adam_12> cpuid level     : 6
[05:16] <ikonia> adam_12: I'm adding you to ignore as I told you to put it in a pastebin
[05:16] <adam_12> wp              : yes
[05:16] <reverseblade> adam_12, stop that !
[05:16] <adam_12> flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc up pni monitor ds_cpl est cid cx16 xtpr lahf_lm
[05:16] <adam_12> bogomips        : 6005.08
[05:16] <riotkittie> ohhhh use pastebin and stop flooding
[05:17] <AlexC_> adam_12: STOP THAT, use a pastebin
[05:17] <adam_12> ikonia: uname -a
[05:17] <ikonia> its clear you can't listen
[05:17] <adam_12> Linux UBunTU 2.6.17-10-386 #2 Tue Dec 5 22:26:18 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:17] <riotkittie> seriously
[05:17] <jrib> rkgl: you need to be in the "admin" group.  Reboot and choose "recovery mode" from the grub menu.  Then execute this command:  adduser YOUR_USERNAME_HERE admin
[05:17] <adam_12> wtf is a pastebin lol????
[05:17] <AlexC_> riotkittie: I'm trying to connect via Jabber (using Gajim) to connect to MSN
[05:17] <jrib> !pastebin | adam_12
[05:17] <ubotu> adam_12: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:17] <ikonia> adam_12: perhaps asking that before ignoring what I said would have been better
[05:17] <funkyHat> The junk filter in Evolution isn't actually doing anything at all :-S anyone else ever got this problem?
[05:17] <reverseblade> !language | adam_12
[05:17] <ubotu> adam_12: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:17] <ikonia> and I can see the problem already
[05:17] <GuerrillaWon> Mind if I paste a small bit of error text to see if anyone can't point me in the right direction?Package nspluginwrapper is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:17] <GuerrillaWon> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:17] <GuerrillaWon> is only available from another source
[05:17] <GuerrillaWon> Oh man I'm sorry
[05:17] <riotkittie> pasting it here is 1 - annoying  2 - fairly pointless  because nobodys going to be able to follow it , the way the chan moves
[05:17] <jrib> !permissions | pjpeter
[05:17] <ubotu> pjpeter: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[05:17] <GuerrillaWon> E: Package nspluginwrapper has no installation candidate
[05:17] <mnoir> ctqucl: maybe read the output from 'man group' to understand more
[05:17] <GuerrillaWon> I tried to pastebin that.
[05:18] <ctqucl> mnoir:  can you give me yours 'id' output?
[05:18] <jrib> GuerrillaWon: don't just try, succeed :)
[05:18] <GuerrillaWon> Apparently middle mouse doesn't open up a tab, and pastes :/
[05:18] <brice> jakob, yes and it works
[05:18] <ubuntux> someone know how to sync a symbian phone with evolution with usb?
[05:18] <mnoir> ctqucl: yes, sec
[05:18] <rkgl> jrib: thanks, I will give it a try and let you know
[05:18] <jakob> brice, have you got "nvidia-settings"?
[05:19] <GuerrillaWon> My apologies
[05:19] <alink1000> whoa, it said 7za is not in your PATH. please notifty your system administrator.
[05:19] <cornell> Thanks anyway, guys.
[05:19] <AlexC_> ikonia: its in the universe repository,
[05:19] <cornell> TTFN
[05:19] <alink1000> wtf is up with that?
[05:19] <brice> jakob, i tey
[05:19] <riotkittie> ;P
[05:19] <ikonia> AlexC_: yeah, I see it, my mistake - sorry
[05:19] <alink1000> when I tried ark that is
[05:19] <ikonia> alink1000: please watch your language
[05:19] <ikonia> I don't need to see that
[05:19] <brice> jakob, yes i have it
[05:19] <alink1000> I didn't even say it...
[05:19] <alink1000> =|
[05:19] <ikonia> "wtf"
[05:19] <alink1000> nothing wrong with that, but okay.
[05:20] <AlexC_> ikonia: can I ask for help now it's in the repos? :P
[05:20] <alink1000> anyways, can someone please give me a solution to this thing?
[05:20] <jakob> brice, does it recognise the second screen?
[05:20] <ikonia> AlexC_: well I doubt any ones going to be in a position to help - but sure. My mistake
[05:20] <GuerrillaWon> Can someone take a look at this and maybe point me in the right direction? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/753/plain/
[05:20] <dariel> holassss
[05:20] <dariel> como estan?
[05:20] <dariel> estoy buscando chat de sexo
[05:20] <brice> jakob, no
[05:20] <mnoir> ctqucl: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/754/  this is from 6.06 - is good for you?
[05:20] <alink1000> ....mkay
[05:20] <AlexC_> ok, Could someone help me connect to jabber via Gajim and then connect to msn??
[05:21] <jrib> !es | dariel
[05:21] <ubotu> dariel: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:21] <mnoir> ctqucl: bos group is not needed for you
[05:21] <jrib> though I don't think any #ubuntu channel I know of can help you with that
[05:21] <riotkittie> uh. did he just say he was looking for sex chat?  <shakes head>
[05:21] <ctqucl> waiting ,let me have a look  mnoir
[05:21] <mnoir> ctqucl: :)
[05:21] <alink1000> "The  utility 7za is not in your PATH.
[05:22] <alink1000> Please install it or contact your system administrator."
[05:22] <alink1000> that's what the error is when I tried 7zip on ark.
[05:22] <adam_12> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/752/
[05:22] <ikonia> alink1000: jesus - the error is pretty clear
[05:22] <mnoir> alink1000: then install it
[05:22] <ikonia> the command 7za is not in your path
[05:22] <alink1000> how do I install it?
[05:22] <ikonia> alink1000: at what point will you ever stop asking basic questions and start reading the wiki and the howtos
[05:22] <ikonia> your really becoming a pain "how do i......" constantly
[05:22] <mnoir> !software | alink1000
[05:22] <ubotu> alink1000: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents and !Offline
[05:23] <riotkittie> wait. you chastize someone for saying 'wtf' but are free to say 'jesus'
[05:23] <jakob> brice, judging from your corg.conf, I don't see any problems, but then again I'm fairly new to linux. The only thing I recommend right now is looking for some tutorials if you haven't already, or find somebody with a similar setup and steal their xorg.conf and then adjust it to your system. If that doesn't work, I think it's almost sure to say it's not your xorg.conf.
[05:23] <ikonia> riotkittie: touch'e apologies
[05:23] <riotkittie>  which some find offensive? :P
[05:23] <alink1000> A real pain? wow this support is horrible, and you're an asshole. =|
[05:23] <mnoir> ikonia: when we stop telling him how to do elementary stuff :)
[05:23] <riotkittie> not that i care. i just like to play devil's advocate ;)
[05:23] <ikonia> mnoir: yet - we keep telling him
[05:23] <user01> jrib: thanks it works now
[05:23] <ikonia> riotkittie: its a fair point he's just becoming annoying
[05:23] <brice> jakob, thanks
[05:23] <jrib> user01: great
[05:23] <riotkittie> hehehehehee
[05:24] <mnoir> mostly :)
[05:24] <islan> anyone ever have problems with a infinite loop using make?
[05:24] <user01> jrib: wow it even works with some wmv
[05:24] <mnoir> !anyone | islan
[05:24] <ubotu> islan: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:24] <ikonia> islan: normally caused by out of sync clock
[05:24] <islan> ikonia, that's why I figured, but I thought I fixed it.  I'll check once again.  (how accurate does it need to be?)
[05:25] <ctqucl> thank you , mnoir ,that's I need :)
[05:25] <mnoir> ikonia: see? like that!
[05:25] <mnoir> ctqucl: good - now help answer the next question :)
[05:25] <ikonia> mnoir: yeah - but the other guy asks like 100 things a day because its easier to be spoon fed than read anything on the basics
[05:25] <ikonia> his first quesiton was how to login
[05:25] <ikonia> come on......
[05:25] <mnoir> ikonia: :(
[05:25] <Anakin> hello I am new tu kubuntu and I want a few tips if u can help me...first of all where is the /etc/inittab file the one we use to choose the runlevel that we want to boot in...and second...how do I activate or deactivate services...for example I installed the telnetd server and I cant start it....
[05:26] <rkgl> jrib: it works thanks once again
[05:26] <jrib> rkgl: np
[05:26] <mnoir> Anakin: 6.06 or 6.10 ?
[05:26] <Anakin> mnoir: 6.10
[05:26] <mnoir> !upstart | Anakin
[05:26] <ubotu> Anakin: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[05:27] <mnoir> Anakin: welcome to mystery 101
[05:27] <user01> out of curiousity has anyone ever succesfully run photoshop cs2 under wine or crossover office?
[05:27] <ikonia> I hate upstart
[05:27] <python> http://www.enlargeyourpenis.de/61893/ :o
[05:27] <ikonia> why ubuntu wants to constantly break the norm I don't get
[05:27] <Anakin> mnoir: 10x :)
[05:27] <mnoir> !ops
[05:27] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[05:27] <Seveas> mnoir, ?
[05:27] <Seveas> mnoir, thanks
[05:27] <mnoir> Seveas: i was yellin about enlargement
[05:28] <ikonia> user01: I've heard of it running ok - but I have no personal personal experience of it
[05:28] <mnoir> Seveas: was i appropriate??
[05:28] <Seveas> mnoir, very
[05:28] <mnoir> Seveas: :)
[05:29] <rkgl> jrib: I am having problems with my sound as well
[05:29] <islan> system time of 11:32 EST on 1/7/2007
[05:30] <riotkittie> breaking the norm how?
[05:30] <rkgl> jrib: are there any good resources on the web to look into
[05:30] <jrib> rkgl: sound in everything?
[05:30] <rkgl> yes
[05:30] <ikonia> riotkittie: changing form traditional init system in a mainstream distro, implimenting the blockid ata branch before its really set as accepted within the kernel branch
[05:30] <jrib> !sound | rkgl
[05:30] <ubotu> rkgl: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[05:31] <ikonia> riotkittie: just a pain for old school chaps
[05:31] <riotkittie> ikonia, ah
[05:31] <ikonia> in dev or small distros - its cool and interesting but mainstream distros are a bit of a pain
[05:31] <ctqucl> I don't have the group 'accounting' and 'admin',and I choose the others ,thank you very much, mnoir
[05:32] <rkgl> jrib: yes, I found Alsa is selected, i will look into the resources
[05:32] <mnoir> ctqucl: yes - those are special groups for me :)
[05:32] <mnoir> ctqucl: is working?
[05:32] <sorush20> hi now do I write a .img files it's a dvd image file
[05:32] <mnoir> ctqucl: why you do not have admin??
[05:33] <mnoir> ctqucl: should need for sudo!
[05:33] <riotkittie> ubuntu kinda scares me. i worry that theyre gonna dumb it down to increase the appeal
[05:33] <mnoir> riotkittie: that would be hard to do
[05:33] <ctqucl> I can
[05:33] <svish> riotkittie: dumb it down?
[05:33] <Music_Shuffle> Its possible to dumb it down -more-?
[05:33] <ikonia> riotkittie: yup
[05:33] <riotkittie> yes, svish
[05:33] <ikonia> or make it so different that old school business/users won't touch it
[05:33] <svish> how?
[05:34] <flodinee> can someone help me change my port for mail in evolution?
[05:34] <riotkittie> mnoir, why do you think it would be hard to do?
[05:34] <riotkittie> brb. gotta go do the mommy thing
[05:34] <ctqucl> I can't use some gnome-system-tools,maybe because of this. mnoir
[05:34] <PurpleMunkz> hmm.. can somebody tell me of an easy way to setup keyboard shortcuts in gnome?
[05:34] <svish> wouldnt say making a system easier to use is the same as dumbing it down..
[05:34] <faeryNatsuki> i need to make a bash script, and launch from it a program, but i need to pass the arguments the script received to the launched app? how can i do that?
[05:35] <Music_Shuffle> PurpleMunkz, simple? System -> Prefs -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[05:35] <mnoir> riotkittie: all the dumbdown would have to occur at the ui level and would not have to touch the underlying system.  if they stray from the debial standard layout, support will be very expensive and hard to cannonical
[05:35] <islan> picky picky
[05:35] <PurpleMunkz> ok, so I have looked at that app before..  what's with all the hex codes as shortcut commands?
[05:35] <sorush20> !ccd2iso
[05:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ccd2iso - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:35] <SOMEONE> hi. i wonder if someone could help me a little?
[05:36] <mnoir> riotkittie: therefore, they can dumbdown all they want and it cannot affect the appeal to those who want to work at the less dumb levels
[05:36] <islan> what's the prob, SOMEONE ?
[05:36] <SOMEONE> about ati 9250 tvout casing white screen on primary display?
[05:36] <riotkittie> mnoir ah good point ;p
[05:37] <SOMEONE> without tvout the monitor screen is ok
[05:37] <ikonia> islan: whats up
[05:37] <faeryNatsuki> could you help me?
[05:37] <mnoir> riotkittie: if you really want an extreme view, linux .9 has been progressively dumbed down to get to today's distributions
[05:37] <riotkittie> mnoir, heh.
[05:37] <ikonia> mnoir: linux .9 ?
[05:37] <mnoir> riotkittie: X is a dumbing down...
[05:37] <ctqucl> root:x:0:
[05:37] <ctqucl> daemon:x:1:
[05:37] <ctqucl> bin:x:2:
[05:37] <ctqucl> sys:x:3:
[05:37] <ctqucl> adm:x:4:ctqucl
[05:37] <ctqucl> tty:x:5:
[05:37] <faeryNatsuki> how can I read arguments passed to a bash or sh script? it's an array? a variable?
[05:37] <mnoir> ikonia: mebbe yer too young to remember the prereleases
[05:37] <bulmer> faeryNatsuki: its usually $1 $2 $3 ...
[05:38] <ikonia> mnoir: ooh you mean linus pre release kernels
[05:38] <ikonia> 24 floppys
[05:38] <jrib> faeryNatsuki: google for the "advanced bash scripting howto"
[05:38] <islan> ikonia, hm?  oh, no, I was talking to the person with the s/n SOMEONE
[05:38] <mnoir> ikonia: d/l 23 diskettes.  load all night
[05:38] <ikonia> I remember
[05:38] <ikonia> yup, remember it well
[05:38] <faeryNatsuki> jrib: let me try
[05:38] <jrib> faeryNatsuki: s/howto/guide
[05:38] <faeryNatsuki> :)
[05:40] <riotkittie> i need to find my 386 ;p
[05:40] <adub> what is the repository for linux source tree
[05:41] <socorrista_ach> can someone help me?
[05:41] <compengi> !ask | socorrista_ach
[05:41] <ubotu> socorrista_ach: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:41] <riotkittie> socorrista_ach, perhaps. what do you nede help with.
[05:41] <socorrista_ach> i need help with editing my ubuntu boot optionsd
[05:42] <ctqucl> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/756/ mnoir ,that's mine
[05:42] <socorrista_ach> he starts with server editition and i want generic edition
[05:42] <adub> maybe linux-source ??
[05:42] <JH-> When installing ubuntu, it gets to 46% and freezes reading the CD
[05:42] <JH-> I did a "check CD" and it installs this way
[05:42] <JH-> never gets any farther
[05:42] <JH-> bad burn?
[05:42] <ikonia> socorrista_ach: they are the same ting
[05:42] <ikonia> thing
[05:42] <compengi> JH-, yeah probably
[05:42] <islan> JH, perhaps, check the md5-thingy
[05:42] <ctqucl> /sleep
[05:42] <socorrista_ach> no they're
[05:43] <socorrista_ach> not
[05:43] <socorrista_ach> because i have a nvidia
[05:43] <ikonia> just different packages
[05:43] <socorrista_ach> e hangs up in server mode
[05:43] <compengi> JH-, try to burn it on 4x
[05:43] <socorrista_ach> and runs perfectly in generic
[05:43] <JH-> I ran out of blank cds
[05:43] <ikonia> "server mode" - do you mean you have installed the "server" build
[05:43] <socorrista_ach> yes
[05:43] <socorrista_ach> it installed by itself
[05:44] <JH-> can I install an ISO onto a DVD?
[05:44] <socorrista_ach> i just need to change prioritys
[05:44] <riotkittie> sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub.menu.lst.old && sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:44] <ikonia> are you sure  - it can#t install by its self
[05:44] <ikonia> what priorities ?
[05:44] <riotkittie> yea, how does something install by itself?
[05:44] <socorrista_ach> lol
[05:44] <socorrista_ach> when i installed it
[05:44] <TheGateKeeper> adub, if you run firefox, it has a package search engine built in
[05:45] <ikonia> socorrista_ach: I don't understand what your talking about at all
[05:45] <ctqucl> Good night ,some one :)
[05:45] <riotkittie> i believe he's talking about boot order
[05:45] <socorrista_ach> when i install ubuntu it installed two versions
[05:45] <ikonia> no it didn't
[05:45] <socorrista_ach> server end generic
[05:45] <ikonia> no it didn't
[05:45] <chris> i have a quick question if anyone is willing to help out
[05:45] <riotkittie> you did something.
[05:45] <ikonia> you can only do one install at a time
[05:45] <riotkittie> hehehehe
[05:46] <socorrista_ach> i can choose if i press escape when is starting up
[05:46] <socorrista_ach> problably
[05:46] <faeryNatsuki> jrib: s/howto/guide was a link? it seems to be incomplete
[05:46] <ikonia> what ??/
[05:46] <TheGateKeeper> !ask | chris
[05:46] <ubotu> chris: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:46] <socorrista_ach> how can i undoit
[05:46] <ikonia> what are you talking about
[05:46] <chris> lol okay :)
[05:46] <user01> how can i verify if the driver automatically installed for my graphics card is the most appropriate/recent?
[05:46] <riotkittie> are you sure one is server and the other is desktop?
[05:46] <socorrista_ach> yes
[05:46] <riotkittie> and theyre not both desktop with different kernels?
[05:46] <socorrista_ach> right now im on generic
[05:46] <ikonia> riotkittie: how can he have 2 installs at once
[05:46] <ikonia> impossible
[05:47] <socorrista_ach> server doesnt start up with nvidia drivers
[05:47] <socorrista_ach> i dont know
[05:47] <ikonia> socorrista_ach: it won't
[05:47] <ikonia> because server doesn't install X
[05:47] <chris> I downloaded quake 3 today, it came in 5 .rar's and i extracted that, and now its a .exe file, which im assuming is a .exe archive with the game files inside. How can I open this exe archive?
[05:47] <socorrista_ach> oh yes it does and thats my problem
[05:47] <ikonia> chris sounds like a warez
[05:47] <riotkittie> ikonia >> two installs at the same time as in simultaneously putting both on?
[05:47] <socorrista_ach> it shouldnt
[05:47] <ikonia> socorrista_ach: then you don't know what your saying - the server doesn't install X
[05:48] <chris> yea i got it from a warez site
[05:48] <ikonia> riotkittie: similtanious
[05:48] <lostboyz> i get this error when compiling and all requirements are met
[05:48] <ikonia> chii: then don't use warez
[05:48] <lostboyz> i am trying to install something via tarball but the configuration script says i need dependencies, but they are all there.  what do i do? it also says Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
[05:48] <riotkittie> no. server doenst come with X, dude.
[05:48] <chris> is there a way to open exe archives?
[05:48] <ikonia> lostboyz: adjust the variable
[05:48] <ikonia> chris don't discuss warez
[05:48] <lostboyz> how do i do that?
[05:48] <ikonia> lostboyz: you should know if your building software
[05:48] <riotkittie> socorrista_ach, >> had you been drinking during or prior to your ubuntu install?
[05:48] <chris> okay, well how do i open .exe archives in general
[05:48] <socorrista_ach> im going to try to edit the boot file
[05:49] <ikonia> chris don't discuss warez
[05:49] <socorrista_ach> thank u all
[05:49] <chris> k
[05:49] <riotkittie> :P
[05:49] <mooey> whats the best way to install an autopackage package (!)?
[05:49] <mooey> !autopackage
[05:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autopackage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:50] <mnoir> !elaborate | mooey
[05:50] <ubotu> mooey: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[05:50] <chris> go to its properties and make it executable, then just double click
[05:50] <ikonia> chris don't discuss warez
[05:50] <lostboyz> yes i know i should know, but i am a new user at this and the program i want is not prepackaged
[05:50] <riotkittie> i love it when people who have no clue what theyre talking about are adamant that they do know what theyre talking about
[05:50] <ikonia> lostboyz: get support from the program developers / support
[05:50] <riotkittie> and then act like youre delusional when you point out simple truths ;p
[05:50] <ikonia> riotkittie: it made no sense
[05:50] <riotkittie> hahahahahahaha
[05:50] <chris> ikonia: i was answering someones question
[05:51] <mooey> chris, mine?
[05:51] <chris> ikonia: they asked how to open an autopackage
[05:51] <ikonia> I stand corrected
[05:51] <chris> yes mooey
[05:51] <mooey> thank you, chris :-)
[05:51] <drivera90> !equivalents
[05:51] <ubotu> A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[05:51] <chris> mooey: go to its properties and make it executable, then just double click
[05:51] <riotkittie> or when they use the "it installed itself!" excuse.
[05:52] <chris> mooey: np
[05:52] <riotkittie> that's always a good one ;p
[05:52] <ikonia> riotkittie: never heard that before
[05:52] <larrysage> my ubuntu 6.06 has been reloaded many times.. it quits when I get to the desktop, I think it may be because of my mainboard. I have an all in one via vt82c686 which works great with windows. but want to change...any ideas
[05:52] <ikonia> larrysage: check on the ubuntu hcl if its supported
[05:52] <ikonia> !hcl | larrysage
[05:52] <ubotu> larrysage: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:52] <chris> larrysage: im using a via board, linux works fine
[05:52] <larrysage> hcl is what?
[05:52] <GuerrillaWon> Geeze who would have thought reading through all the community documentation on Ubuntu would be so... helpfull.
[05:52] <ikonia> chris depends on the chipset
[05:52] <lightman> larrysage: seems strange that ubuntu is not working beacuse of a mobo
[05:53] <ikonia> lightman: not if the chips not supported it doesn't
[05:53] <chris> same chipset that was just mentioned
[05:53] <chris> c686
[05:53] <larrysage> is a thing with the via chipset as i understand it
[05:53] <ikonia> chris then you are spot on
[05:53] <lightman> okonia: ubuntu supports majority of recent mobo
[05:53] <ikonia> lightman: but not all
[05:53] <lightman> ikonia:true
[05:53] <ikonia> hence why i said check the hcl - make sure its listed then we can move o n
[05:53] <ikonia> rather than just assuming it supported it
[05:54] <mnoir> or you assuming it doesn't :)
[05:54] <larrysage> im wondering why when i load it it loads and runs beautifully ...why then can i not keep the drivers that it is using to setup?
[05:54] <ikonia> mnoir: yup - you remove the doubt/question
[05:54] <ikonia> larrysage: what makes you think its via
[05:54] <mnoir> larrysage: in a perfect world...
[05:55] <Tox> hi, what is the last debian distr ?
[05:55] <ikonia> tox /join #debian
[05:55] <Tox> ok tnx
[05:55] <mnoir> bet it is right in their title...
[05:55] <ikonia> yup
[05:56] <riotkittie> hehe
[05:56] <ikonia> or on the main webpage
[05:56] <ikonia> I hate that sort of thing - its super lazy
[05:56] <mnoir> ikonia: that would require understanding teh intarnets
[05:56] <ikonia> he he
[05:57] <jonah1980> hi can anyone please help me out just to get something through my video card, i don't know what to do: http://www.linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Pinnacle_PCTV_310i   that's my card but when i run tvtuner or whatever nothing is there
[05:57] <larrysage> i have another machine and it has never had a glitch.. i have checked out the via info and it shows that there are drivers to be added but I am so new to this that I do not knw how to add them
[05:57] <mnoir> ikonia: seriously, ubuntu's extreme politeness policing does encourage the annoying behaviors we have been discussing
[05:57] <riotkittie> i should compile the intarnets
[05:57] <s1`_> hi, where does the file go after i finish editing crontab with crontab -e?
[05:57] <ikonia> mnoir: I'm all for helping but this turns into the general no nothing channel at times
[05:57] <scifi> hi guys finally got my fresh install of Edgy after upgrading from Dapper went awry. I remember on Dapper i had to edit a file to change my monitors refresh rate to 75 from 60. can someone remind which file it is ?
[05:58] <ikonia> scifi: xorg.conf
[05:58] <scifi> ty
[05:58] <mnoir> scifi: be vewy vewy careful - /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:58] <riotkittie> i have to admit. one of ubuntu's biggest selling points for me would be the community and the fact that everyone is really cool
[05:58] <chris> agreed
[05:58] <riotkittie> but man. sometimes i just want to shake some of these people
[05:58] <chris> its as though everyone is one big happy family lol
[05:59] <riotkittie> then bludgeon them with a stack of HOW-TOs
[05:59] <faeryNatsuki> thanks jrib, that's what i needed :) see you bye
[06:00] <scifi> i remember now, i just need to put my monitors manufacturers refresh rate ranges in
[06:00] <riotkittie> hehe
[06:00] <serishema> i'm having problems with apt-get and synaptic and the like
[06:00] <jrib> scifi: man crontab  claims /var/spool/cron/crontabs
[06:00] <scoobtube> i don't even know how to use apt-get
[06:00] <riotkittie> serishema, what kind of problems?
[06:00] <jrib> s1`_: man crontab  claims /var/spool/cron/crontabs
[06:00] <serishema> for some reason after a crash, apt-get just goes back to the prompt without displaying anything when i try to install anything
[06:00] <scoobtube> this is my first linux installation
[06:00] <serishema> no error message or hint of any kind
[06:00] <serishema> aptitude also fails
[06:00] <ikonia> scoobtube: then thats surly a warning to read up in it
[06:01] <mnoir> serishema: nothing? no message at all?
[06:01] <serishema> no message at all
[06:01] <castoff> serishema: tried apt-get update?
[06:01] <scoobtube> ikonia, yeah, that's what i'm doing.  judging by the reactions here, i'm kinda scared to ask a question
[06:01] <s1`_> jrib, many thanks!
[06:01] <maney> quux: shouldn't generic names such as us.archive.ubuntu.com be setup to round-robin to all the region's repositories?  at least this morning that seems not to be working (I noticed this because the repo us.archive points at is horribly slow this morning - might be maintenance window there?)
[06:01] <serishema> same result
[06:01] <riotkittie> scoobtube sudo apt-get <package name>   to install, sudo apt-cache search <term> to search by keyword. man apt for more info
[06:01] <jonah1980> hello anyone who can help me out please? i just wanna watch a bit of tv on my computer with http://www.linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Pinnacle_PCTV_310i   this card
[06:01] <castoff> serishema: apt-cace search work?
[06:02] <castoff> apt-cache even
[06:02] <mnoir> riotkittie: see for that i would have piped !software
[06:02] <chrissturm> is there a decent wiki software in ubuntu main?
[06:02] <maney> er, that was s'posed to be Q:, forgot it would expand on me
[06:02] <serishema> yes
[06:02] <maney> chrissturm: yeah, several
[06:02] <riotkittie> mnoir,  ahh
[06:02] <chrissturm> mediawiki seems to be in universe
[06:02] <chrissturm> maney: can you name some?
[06:02] <maney> though of course "decent" is so much a matter of taste
[06:03] <castoff> serishema: sorry stumped me
[06:03] <maney> the wiki component of Trak is pretty good, though not my first choice as a wiki
[06:03] <chrissturm> trac is not in main
[06:03] <wolfgang_> ubotu: thanks for the Windows equivalent links, very helpful
[06:03] <chrissturm> is it?
[06:03] <maney> and I was going to say that moin was included, but now i think about it I'm not certain I've set that up on an Ubuntu box, so maybe it's in unverse too
[06:03] <mnoir> wolfgang_: you are thanking a bot :)
[06:04] <maney> isn't?  hmmm
[06:04] <serishema> there seems to be an undeletable file at /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[06:04] <maney> maybe I've only set those up on Sarge machines, then
[06:04] <serishema> i'm going to try running the riser fs check utility i suspect a corrupted filesystem
[06:04] <mnoir> serishema: delete with sudo
[06:04] <chrissturm> i think the ubuntu wiki uses mediawiki
[06:04] <maney> if neither is in main I'm really going to have to reconsider using Ubuntu for the new server after all
[06:05] <serishema> mnior: the delete appears to succeed but the file is still there
[06:05] <maney> yeah, I don't really like mediawiki
[06:05] <chrissturm> ubuntu main doenst even contain the packages that ubuntu.org uses :)
[06:05] <mnoir> serishema: you may be right about bad fs - reiser is not 10000% proof
[06:05] <wolfgang_> mnoir: chat newbie here, second day ever on a chat forum and I have just embarassed myself quite well
[06:06] <maney> nah, says moin is in main
[06:06] <mnoir> wolfgang_: naa - everybody does it :)
[06:06] <aimtrainer__> hi can anyone tell me please how to create a link in the shell (I mean a link to a folder)
[06:06] <jrib> chrissturm: ubuntu wiki is moinmoin
[06:06] <maney> but yeah, trac is universe.  bummer
[06:06] <chrissturm> jrib: ah, cool
[06:06] <chrissturm> moinmoin is in main, i will use that
[06:06] <riotkittie> ok, enough X for me. brb
[06:06] <mnoir> wolfgang_: try /msg ubotu    -  you can get a lot of good info
[06:06] <serishema> found the problem
[06:07] <serishema> sudo is broken
[06:07] <serishema> if i su to root it works
[06:07] <magical_trevsky> is there a way to limit the cpu usage a program is allowed when it's already running?
[06:07] <mnoir> serishema: how is it broken?
[06:07] <maney> yeah, I like moin a lot.  only partly because I can hack little extensions in a decent labguage :-)
[06:07] <castoff> magical_trevsky: renice
[06:07] <mnoir> serishema: do you need a good sudoers file?
[06:08] <magical_trevsky> castoff, awesome, thanks
[06:08] <larrysage> Im back again my prosavage video is not listed in the hcl... what do I do to give it a generic driver?
[06:09] <serishema> is there a way to back out of installing a package when it crashed half way through
[06:09] <serishema> doing dpkg --configure -a caused the system to crash
[06:10] <maney> dpkg --remove ?
[06:11] <castoff> larrysage: is there a xserver-xorg-video-savage package you can use?
[06:12] <serishema> i don't want to delete what's already there though, i just want the package manager to forget about it.
[06:12] <serishema> i have a bit of an obsecure case
[06:12] <serishema> i'm running ubuntu under colinux and installing x11-common is known to cause a blue screen
[06:12] <serishema> but i needed xsetroot from it
[06:12] <killown> Hey where I found list server for mldonkey?
[06:12] <wolfgang_> question to all:  What I need is a linux download manager that has the equivalent functionality, sophistication, and easy to use gui functionality of the program "Free Download Manager" in Windows.  If anyone has personal experience with linux download manager that really works and is not quirky, I am all eyes.
[06:13] <serishema> have you tried kget?
[06:13] <mnoir> serishema: -r or --purge one specific package and then reinstall if you want
[06:13] <mena> i cant acsses any site throw fire fox any one know why ....
[06:13] <serishema> mnoir: but reinstalling it will cause a blue screen again and exactly the same will happen again?
[06:13] <castoff> larrysage: did you get that?
[06:14] <mnoir> serishema: maybe, i dunno - what package is giving you such problems?
[06:14] <serishema> x11-common
[06:14] <serishema> it's a known problem with colinux
[06:14] <maney> serishema: sounds like you need to do a non-managed install of the part you want
[06:14] <mnoir> oic
[06:14] <wolfgang_> serishema:  I have not tried any linux ones yet, I trying to zero in on one.
[06:14] <mwe> serishema: you can download .debs and extract them
[06:14] <serishema> that might be a way out of this.
[06:14] <mwe> serishema: dpkg -x blah.deb
[06:15] <mnoir> serishema: or install from console instead of terminal
[06:15] <hjmills> mwe: cant file-roller also read debs?
[06:15] <mwe> hjmills: maybe so
[06:15] <angelo> hi all
[06:15] <confrey> hi everybody
[06:15] <angelo> hi
[06:15] <islan> hi angelo , confrey
[06:15] <mnoir> 1hi
[06:15] <hjmills> mwe: i seem to remember it was always the default action for firefox when you downloaded debs
[06:15] <mnoir> !hi
[06:15] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:15] <cyclebrock> Hello
[06:16] <mnoir> a thousand more ppl need to say hi....
[06:16] <timmae> hi
[06:16] <darkroast> ok, so when I hover over the date & time in ubuntu, it says "Click here to view your appointments and tasks" -- when I click, all I get is the little calendar.  How do I add appointments and tasks?
[06:16] <hjmills> can anybody recommend a gtk instant messenger client like gaim but not gaim?
[06:16] <larrysage> sorry castoff I missed it
[06:16] <ikonia> gtk based - touch
[06:16] <jrib> darkroast: in evolution
[06:16] <ikonia> depends what protocols you want
[06:16] <castoff> larrysage: is there a xserver-xorg-video-savage
[06:16] <darkroast> ah, thanks
[06:16] <darkroast> too bad I'm not using evolution :-)
[06:16] <ikonia> touch ?? tough I meant
[06:16] <confrey> anybody from germany, or france?
[06:17] <maney> serishema: would running inside vmware work for what you need to do?  there's a free version of that now (I think it's available for Windows-hosted too)
[06:17] <larrysage> yes I have found one but I dont know how to install it.. i have it on a disk
[06:17] <mwe> hjmills: I guess you don't like gaim?
[06:17] <hjmills> ikonia: well i use msn and google talk (jabber)
[06:17] <mnoir> !anyone | confrey
[06:17] <timmae> hjmills, i use AMSN and Kopete
[06:17] <ubotu> confrey: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:17] <serishema> maney: the idea was to avoid the overhead of emulating actual hardware
[06:17] <cyclebrock> Vmware, there is a free version of the server. very slick
[06:17] <angelo> kopete is nice
[06:17] <hjmills> mwe: its giving me more errors than i can even start to try and fix
[06:17] <mwe> timmae: I don't think they're gtk
[06:17] <serishema> maney: i was using virtual server, but it reduced my laptop battery life too much
[06:17] <castoff> larrysage: apt-get install
[06:17] <mwe> hjmills: oh
[06:17] <mwe> hjmills: odd
[06:18] <confrey> because I need to chat with somebody from Germany, or France.... I'm a ubuntu user, but I need to chat about other problems...
[06:18] <maney> serishema: back to manual install, then, I guess :-/
[06:18] <hjmills> mwe: i may try purging it and reinstalling it
[06:18] <larrysage> ok that is from the manual screen in the startup?
[06:18] <mwe> confrey: try #ubuntu-de and #ubuntu-fr
[06:18] <castoff> larrysage: from a terminal? yes
[06:18] <cyclebrock> Just curious if anybody has luck with edgy and laptop suspending
[06:18] <mnoir> confrey: in english?  i am not in europe but you might have better luck in the de or fr channels
[06:19] <larrysage> ok then I will be able to do it..but it is on my cd rom..what if it is not mounted?
[06:19] <ikonia> cyclebrock: yes
[06:19] <mwe> hjmills: I doubt that will help. maybe reset it's configuring in your home dir which will stay if even if you purge it
[06:19] <confrey> ubotu, I have a ubuntu question too : in xine dialog window, I see fonts in a bad format, bad dimension, ideas?
[06:19] <ppj> Anyone have some experience with Ubuntu on ESX?
[06:19] <mnoir> confrey: type /msg ubotu
[06:19] <castoff> larrysage: you have internet access on that system?
[06:19] <ppj> I've got the networking bridged, and man downloads are slow
[06:19] <hjmills> mwe: ah ok - i didnt realise that stayed - explains some things
[06:19] <Riyonuk> I keep trying to install kuake from the syanptic, but it installed Konsole
[06:19] <confrey> mnoir, right! thanks
[06:20] <larrysage> yes it worked when i loaded but i dont know if it is running when the system stalls
[06:20] <mwe> hjmills: only global configuration is reset when purging
[06:20] <mnoir> wolfgang_: see? caught confrey :)
[06:20] <cyclebrock> ikonia, what type of laptop?
[06:20] <ikonia> msi S262
[06:20] <LameBMX> !vmware
[06:20] <ubotu> vmware is VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[06:20] <hjmills> mwe: oh ok - useful to know - thanks
[06:20] <castoff> larrysage: ah if you do then apt-get will get it from the net
[06:20] <hjmills> mwe: i have removed most stuff in ~/.gaim leaving the logs as they are useful - ill see how it goes
[06:21] <wolfgang_> mnoir: yea, now I don't feel so bad
[06:21] <mwe> hjmills: yeah
[06:21] <mnoir> wolfgang_: :)
[06:21] <mnoir> wolfgang_: you are no longer a beginner here!
[06:21] <serishema> got it
[06:21] <castoff> larrysage: otherwise use dpkg -i file_name
[06:21] <serishema> deleting and recrating the /var/lib/dpkg by doing some hacking got what i want to happen
[06:21] <mnoir> serishema: things working?
[06:21] <dudes> who can giveme a link for install the drivers of "QuickCam for notebooks" (logitech)
[06:22] <Riyonuk> And I cant seem to find swiftfox in syanptic
[06:22] <mnoir> serishema: the hack was?
[06:22] <larrysage> ok how will it know where to get it from?
[06:22] <eyalw> hi
[06:22] <serishema> oh dear, nope i just broke the package system compluete
[06:22] <serishema> completely
[06:23] <eyalw> simple tutorial for getting sshd running and configured
[06:23] <mnoir> 1010 ppl say hi to eyalw
[06:23] <castoff> larrysage: the source.lst will tell it...i assume you have a fully installed system?
[06:23] <serishema> fortunately, i backed up the orriginal files
[06:23] <dudes> who can giveme a link for install the drivers of "QuickCam for notebooks" (logitech)
[06:23] <larrysage> yes
[06:23] <chrissturm> wie installier ich moinmoin am besten? fastcgi oder besser twisted?
[06:23] <mnoir> !sshd | eyalw
[06:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sshd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:23] <linuxnewuserr> how do I work a synaptic installer to install stuff
[06:23] <linuxnewuserr> confused as hell with linux
[06:23] <mnoir> !ssh | eyalw
[06:23] <linuxnewuserr> first day on it
[06:23] <ubotu> eyalw: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[06:23] <jrib> !synaptic | linuxnewuserr
[06:23] <ubotu> linuxnewuserr: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[06:24] <mnoir> !de | chrissturm
[06:24] <ubotu> chrissturm: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:24] <castoff> larrysage: so if using apt-get it will know, if using dpkg mount the cd and point it at it
[06:24] <jrib> Riyonuk: swiftfox isn't in the ubunut repositories
[06:24] <hjmills> mwe: same problem with jabber with a reinstalled gaim :( really does suck
[06:24] <Riyonuk> jrib, why?
[06:24] <chrissturm> mnoir: sorry, i have too many irc channels open it seems :)
[06:24] <eitan> hey guys...been looking for 2 hours for the terminal command to initiate the screensaver, anyone know?
[06:24] <mwe> hjmills: hmm
[06:24] <ublender> doesw anyone here have a psp they use with ubuntu?
[06:25] <frederific> hi everyone
[06:25] <mnoir> chrissturm: no need for sorry - mostly i am trying to help ppl get to somebody who can help :)
[06:25] <Riyonuk> It seems alot of the programs I got from automatix arent availble in synaptic >_<
[06:26] <mnoir> eitan: that may be an interesting challenge - i would try asking in #gnome as well
[06:26] <mena> jrib, i cant acces any site throw firefox and it telling me cant establish conection wiwith nay site .....do you know why
[06:26] <mena> jrib, any*
[06:27] <hjmills> mena: try disabling ipv6 - that gave me a headache a while back
[06:27] <larrysage> thanks.. I will probably be back to bug you but if I can get this machine running it will be by by windows.. I am currently testing the ubuntu on my 300mhz dell and it works so beautifully but the other machine is tons faster.
[06:27] <mena> hjmills, okay
[06:27] <lostboyz> does it matter if you are root or user when configuring packages?
[06:27] <doofy> how do i remove unneeded entries from the applications menu?
[06:28] <mnoir> lostboyz: usually does
[06:28] <jrib> doofy: right click on the ubuntu icon, and select "edit menus"
[06:28] <mena> hjmills, how
[06:28] <castoff> eitan: you look for the X screensaver?
[06:28] <islan> doofy, Applications, Accessories, A La Cart Menu Editor
[06:28] <scifi> hi guys, theres a tool somewhere for easily mounting your other disk drives, whats it called ?
[06:28] <hjmills> !ipv6 | mena
[06:28] <ubotu> mena: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[06:28] <mnoir> lostboyz: but that is for global config, not user config
[06:28] <islan> or, yeah, what jrib saud
[06:28] <islan> said*
[06:28] <eitan> castoff: the one in gnome, or are they the same?
[06:28] <mena> hjmills, problem is i cant accses any site even that
[06:28] <doofy> jrib, islan thank you.
[06:28] <jrib> Riyonuk: I don't know, you can request that it be considered for inclusion on one of the MOTU wiki pages though
[06:28] <hjmills> oh
[06:28] <hjmills> good point
[06:29] <hjmills> using fx?
[06:29] <castoff> eitan: look at xscreensaver
[06:29] <mena> hjmills, yes
[06:29] <mena> hjmills,, wait its opened
[06:29] <mena> why
[06:29] <mena> ^_^
[06:29] <hjmills> mena: cos its an ipv6 compatible site i think - thats just what i found
[06:29] <moti> as anybady can recomand how to config mail server on ubuntu
[06:30] <mena> hjmills, okay its opened i will see it thanks
[06:30] <hjmills> moti: i think there is a guide at help.ubuntu.com in the server guide
[06:30] <jakob> How come "sudo apt-get install xwinwrap" returns nothing?
[06:30] <Riyonuk> jrib, well lots of programs I want arent in the respositores, am I going to have to install them manually? Will they not get updated?
[06:30] <moti> tanks i will look
[06:30] <scifi> hi guys, theres a tool somewhere for easily mounting your other disk drives, whats it called ?
[06:31] <jrib> Riyonuk: what other applications are not in the repos?
[06:31] <serishema> system will probably crash again
[06:31] <serishema> fingers crossed
[06:31] <Riyonuk> jrib, well swiftfox, frostwire, energyxt2, audacious to name a few I need :p
[06:32] <eitan> castoff, xscreensaver isnt helping me eithe
[06:32] <serishema> nope, yay i think i got it. I tracked down the actual package which was xserver-xorg that i don't need anyway. So i force removed it and now everything is good
[06:32] <hjmills> Riyonuk: there is a script for swiftfox and probably on for frostwire - audacious is in the repos and i dont kniow about energyxt2
[06:33] <Jowi> !postfix | moti
[06:33] <ubotu> moti: postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[06:33] <chrissturm> whats the recommended way to configure moinmoin on ubuntu behind an apache server?
[06:33] <Riyonuk> hjmills, wtf, I cant find audacious >_>
[06:33] <jrib> Riyonuk: audacious is in feisty.  You can request the others.  frostwire provides ubuntu debs on their site
[06:33] <hjmills> Riyonuk: have you enabled multiverse and universe
[06:33] <Nermal> anyone else having problems with bluetooth and edgy ?
[06:33] <hjmills> !fuck | riyonuk
[06:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fuck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:33] <PurpleMunkz> what is the run time level that I should start ubuntu in if I don't want the X server to start at bootup?   should it be runtime lvl 3?
[06:33] <Riyonuk> >_>
[06:33] <hjmills> !language | Riyonuk
[06:33] <ubotu> Riyonuk: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:33] <faeryNatsuki> we need to program in php and mysql, and we have to develop something for any common web server, which mysql is better? mysql 5 or mysql 4.1?
[06:33] <serishema> level 3?
[06:33] <hjmills> better
[06:33] <FurryNemesis> PurpleMunkz, 2, I think
[06:34] <serishema> 2 is without networking isn't it?
[06:34] <Riyonuk> hjmills, Ive enabled them...I think
[06:34] <Nermal> specifically I get a "switching device to off" bubble appear when I scan for it on my phone
[06:34] <Riyonuk> jrib, what do you mean in fiesty?
[06:34] <eitan> castoff, I found that i need to change the key of /apps/gnome-screensaver/idle_activation_enabled to true to start the screensaver, this is done through GUI by gconf, how can i do it through issuing commands?
[06:34] <eyalw> i looked at the ubuntu docs on ssh, and it explains NOTHING about configuring an sshd, only about remotly logging into one. help, sshd?
[06:34] <Vilandil> join #ubuntu-fr
[06:34] <FurryNemesis> serishema, I think that dumps you into the cmd line
[06:34] <hjmills> Riyonuk: double check and make sure u apt-get update after
[06:34] <jrib> Riyonuk: feisty is the next version of ubuntu
[06:34] <FurryNemesis> !runlevel
[06:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about runlevel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:34] <FurryNemesis> !runlevels
[06:34] <faeryNatsuki> !mysql
[06:34] <PurpleMunkz> hmm I don't thin it's 2, because when I typed telinit 3 to change to r/l 3, then times runlevel to see what my current runlevel was, it displayed r/l 2 as the previous run level before I switched to 3..
[06:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about runlevels - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:34] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:34] <Riyonuk> jrib, so its only available if I install fiesty?
[06:34] <Nermal> hmm
[06:34] <castoff> eitan: does typing xscreensaver do it?
[06:35] <faeryNatsuki> !mysql
[06:35] <FurryNemesis> ah, ok
[06:35] <islan> hm ... how do I make sure the fan is on again?
[06:35] <Nermal> looks like this channel has gone further downhill :|
[06:35] <scifi> hi guys, theres a tool somewhere for easily mounting your other disk drives, whats it called ?
[06:35] <ublender> does anyone here have a psp they use with ubuntu?
[06:35] <Riyonuk> hjmills, in Software Sources, every box is checked
[06:35] <eitan> castoff, no, i don't have the program xscreensaver but i have xscreensaver-(5 diff programs here)
[06:36] <jrib> Riyonuk: in the official repositories, yes.  The repositories are frozen before an ubuntu version is released, so it won't be in edgy since it was released last october.  I wouldn't recommend you install feisty until it is released
[06:36] <eyalw> i looked at the ubuntu docs on ssh, and it explains NOTHING about configuring an sshd, only about remotly logging into one. help, sshd?
[06:36] <mwe> eitan: that's normal
[06:36] <castoff> eitan: hum...i'm trying to download xscreensaver now to look but it is very slow
[06:36] <serishema> apt-get install ssh did it for me
[06:36] <eitan> mwe: yeah but none of them work
[06:36] <Riyonuk> jrib, :( and theses deb.'s, I know there like .exe's but do they update?
[06:36] <serishema> installed the server actually, rather than the client
[06:36] <eitan> i mean
[06:36] <eitan> work to start the ss
[06:37] <mwe> eitan: I see. xscreensaver-demo works here
[06:37] <jrib> Riyonuk: they get security updates and major bug fixes
[06:37] <eitan> castoff: i think i can change gnome keys on the fly using gconftool -s (key) (type)
[06:37] <eitan> ill try something
[06:37] <Riyonuk> jrib, wait...what? I really dont want to download anything other than from snyaptic
[06:37] <scifi> what tool do i use to mount my other local disk drives ?
[06:37] <castoff> eitan: but xscreensaver is a seperate package than the configs b/c the configs are used by other screensaver progs
[06:37] <scoobtube> it's my understanding from reading that you have to install the ati video drivers at init level 3.  Is this correct?
[06:38] <mnoir> eyalw: i just found http://geodsoft.com/howto/ssh/servers.htm (google is your friend)  it might help.  have you tried and it is not workingg or not tried yet?
[06:38] <jrib> Riyonuk: what wasn't clear?
[06:39] <Riyonuk> jrib, well...nevermind, all clear. Thanks
[06:39] <serishema> how can i accept xdmcp connections without actually running an X server on the local machine?
[06:39] <agent> !init > FurryNemesis
[06:39] <jrib> Riyonuk: you could always join MOTU and help in the cause :)
[06:39] <castoff> serishema: you need the Xlibraries
[06:39] <Riyonuk> jrib, whats that?
[06:39] <eyalw> mnoir: well i never found this exact page, let me read a little and get back to u on this : )
[06:39] <jrib> !motu | Riyonuk
[06:39] <ubotu> Riyonuk: motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[06:39] <serishema> castoff: i have those
[06:40] <serishema> castoff: i just don't want kdm trying to start X org since that will make it crash
[06:40] <castoff> serishema: don't ask me what package that is in Ubuntu never looked
[06:40] <mnoir> eyalw: snot that hard - 1 config file  :)
[06:40] <Riyonuk> jrib, cant, dont always have an internet connecting :p
[06:40] <Riyonuk> Is it good to download pacakges not from the respositores?
[06:40] <jerp> scifi, there is autofs available in the synaptic manager
[06:41] <scifi> jerp: thx
[06:41] <scoobtube> do i need to be init level 3 to install the ati drivers for ubuntu?  I finally have a game that requires openGL and I've downloaded the ati drivers
[06:41] <castoff> serishema: use sysv-rc-conf to turn off kdm so it won't start
[06:42] <serishema> castoff: i want kdm to run though to manage remote x terminals
[06:42] <castoff> serishema: if you don't have that install it, i like it alot
[06:42] <MeRLiN-> Hi!
[06:42] <jrib> Riyonuk: I use frostwire myself, it is fine.  It is generally ok if a package is not in the repos and provides an Ubuntu deb
[06:42] <blblblblblblblbl> hi
[06:43] <jrib> Riyonuk: of course, you are trusting the developers that created the package
[06:43] <castoff> serishema: does it need to? i've never done that always pulled the GUI's back through ssh
[06:43] <Riyonuk> jrib, alright, just wish every program was available :D
[06:43] <mwe> Riyonuk: what are you looking for?
[06:43] <serishema> castoff: it would be easier if my linux ignorant brother just saw a login window on the right box
[06:43] <scoobtube> ok, so I opened up terminal and went from $ to # then went to desktop where the ati driver is and typed sh ./ati-driverblah blah blah and hit enter
[06:43] <Riyonuk> mwe, well first I want audacious
[06:43] <castoff> serishema: hehe ok
[06:43] <PacketScan> edgy comes with firefox 2..  how to revert back to 1.5 as 2.0 is Crach happy ?
[06:44] <mwe> Riyonuk: I see
[06:44] <jakob> where do deleted files go in linux?
[06:44] <mwe> PacketScan: it is? it never crashed here thouh
[06:44] <Riyonuk> jakob, trash
[06:44] <jrib> jakob: depends how you deleted them
[06:44] <jakob> please pretend I never asked that :-s
[06:45] <mena> i still cant open any site
[06:45] <C_J_Pro> Wow, been a while since I've last been here.
[06:45] <PacketScan> free'mwe, ff2 is crashing on linux and windows for me.. revert back to 1.5 seems to be the fix for now.
[06:45] <mwe> PacketScan: well if you insist, download 1.5 from mozilla.com and install it to /opt
[06:45] <scifi> jerp: in dapper there was a gui tool in administration menu for doing this, is there not such a gui tool in edgy ?
[06:45] <Riyonuk> Someone told me Automatix was bad news...is it really?
[06:45] <mwe> PacketScan: then sudo dpkg-divert /usr/bin/firefox && sudo ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/
[06:45] <scoobtube> when the ati driver extracts and starts i get this error:  X Server: Unknown X Window
[06:46] <mwe> PacketScan: err
[06:46] <scoobtube> cp: cannot stat `x710/usr/X11R6/bin/*': No such file or directory
[06:46] <mwe> PacketScan: sudo dpkg-divert --rename /usr/bin/firefox && sudo ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/
[06:46] <scoobtube> find: install/usr/bin/fireglcontrolpanel: No such file or directory
[06:46] <ghd> hi, im installing ubuntu 5.10, i need help with partitions.  basicly theres 1 partition on c drive which contains xp, i'd prefer to make a new partition on that drive to install ubuntu.  Also theres 4 partitions on d drive, one of which has knoppix installed, but i dont know which.  #1  is 12.6gb has a lightning/downward arrow, a black smiley face  says  and says ntfs.   #2  has all my music, video etc from xp.  #3 is 12.6gb has
[06:46] <ghd>  a black smiley face and says reiserfs.   #4 is 329mb swap. can anyone give advice on making a new partition on c drive or tell me which partition on d drive to delete so i can install ubuntu on it.  also, does anyone know what could be oln the 12.6gb partiton that doesnt have knoppix installed?
[06:46] <C_J_Pro> Are there any alternatives to Kontakt for Ubuntu?
[06:46] <jerp> scifi, look in your synaptic manager
[06:47] <scoobtube> how do i get to init3 in ubuntu?
[06:47] <mnoir> ghd: why 5.10
[06:47] <scifi> jerp: i dont know what it was called. autofs is just a script, i want a gui front-end tool
[06:47] <MetaBookfoziS> hi all
[06:47] <jakob> What does "missing separator. Stop" mean?
[06:47] <MetaBookfoziS> how can i workout to an app don'T use my internet connection?
[06:47] <mwe> jakob: from what?
[06:47] <hjmills> is it possible to run kde apps without kdelibs as im about to reinstall ubuntu and want to use all the programs i can (so i have more choice) and make them look the same without the overhead of loading half of kde
[06:47] <MetaBookfoziS> so i'm dont want to an app goes to internet?
[06:47] <mwe> hjmills: it's not
[06:47] <jakob> mwe a make or make install.
[06:48] <hjmills> jakob: probably that something is missing a seperator so it has had to stop
[06:48] <ghd> because thats the disc that ive got, and my pc is pretty crap.  is newer versions can run just as well on a 655mhz amd duron with 128mb ram, then i might install those
[06:48] <mwe> jakob: it means the source code is broken
[06:48] <mwe> jakob: what are you trying to install?
[06:48] <jakob> mwe, would it be safer to find a new source, rather than fix it?
[06:48] <mnoir> hjmills: no kde apps are gonna use the libs :(
[06:49] <jakob> mwe. xwinwrap, it's no longer on synaptics
[06:49] <mwe> jakob: also consider using checkinstall instead of make install
[06:49] <schlonzo> hello, i've got a problem. My hdb2 is, after transformating to FAT32 no longer available in ubuntu. How was the command to mute those hdd's ?
[06:49] <mena> hjmills, i still cant open any site and i done as it told me
[06:49] <jakob> mwe, checkinstall --> command not found
[06:49] <mwe> jakob: install it
[06:49] <hjmills> mwe: didnt think it was possible - overly hopeful
[06:49] <mnoir> ghd - you are gonna have a very interesting time getting support here :) i should think 6.06 would run fine unless there is a specific hardware issue
[06:49] <mwe> jakob: sudo aptitude install checkinstall
[06:49] <hjmills> mnoir: thats why i dont like kde i guess
[06:50] <jakob> mwe, thanks, I'll try that.
[06:50] <mwe> hjmills: it wont work if make install doesn't work though
[06:50] <MeRLiN-> bye
[06:50] <schlonzo> hello, i've got a problem. My hdb2 is, after transformating to FAT32 no longer available in ubuntu. How was the command to mute those hdd's?
[06:50] <mnoir> hjmills: it is just disk space...
[06:50] <N1kki> Hi, just a quick question, is there any way to install from the command line, got a really slow PC and in 15mins it hasnt even loaded the desktop manager from the live CD
[06:50] <hjmills> mnoir: and cpu and memory as it runs in the background doesnt it?
[06:50] <ghd> mnoir ok, i guess i'll dl the latest version then
[06:50] <mnoir> hjmills: when yer running those apps...
[06:51] <hjmills> mnoir: so when the apps close does kdelibs close:?
[06:51] <mwe> hjmills: it doesn't take cpu power to load some libs
[06:51] <Slart> N1kki: there's the alternate install cd
[06:51] <mnoir> hjmills: afaik
[06:51] <mwe> hjmills: it takes some memory though
[06:51] <Slart> !alternate | N1kki
[06:51] <ubotu> N1kki: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[06:52] <Riyonuk> Are there more repisotires then multivers, universe, etc?
[06:52] <mnoir> hjmills: if  ya like the apps ya gotta pay the price
[06:52] <hjmills> mwe - is it a significant amount - i have a decently powered pc but i just dont like choking it with stuff
[06:52] <linuxnewuserr> someone walk me through installation of easyubuntu and a .run in pvt plz these tutorial sites confuse me as a noob with this techinical crap that doesn't teach you easily
[06:52] <mwe> hjmills: they do "close" if they're not used.
[06:52] <N1kki> yep I saw that, but was hoping I wouldnt have to download and burn another copy
[06:52] <Prestwick_> Hi can anyone help?
[06:52] <jrib> linuxnewuserr: what are you trying to install?
[06:52] <mwe> hjmills: it's not that bad. some megabytes depending on the program
[06:52] <jrib> !helpme | Prestwick_
[06:52] <ubotu> Prestwick_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:52] <mnoir> !anyone |pres
[06:52] <ubotu> pres: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:52] <linuxnewuserr> easyubuntu
[06:52] <Prestwick_> Basically loaded up Ubuntu and a square about 70x70 pixels big is distorted in the top left hand corner ^^;
[06:52] <Slart> N1kki: I don't think there is a text mode install on the normal CD.. I might be wrong though..
[06:53] <N1kki> ah ok, Thanks :)
[06:53] <Gosha> .. how do i enable scripts in nautilus?
[06:53] <linuxnewuserr> ubuntu doesn't support my videocard yet x1950 ati
[06:53] <PacketScan> man what the heck happened in edgy.. FF2 is crash happy, Evolution lost SSL/TLS support..  Do they not test anymore before releaseing..YIKES.
[06:53] <mnoir> !elaborate | Gosha
[06:53] <ubotu> Gosha: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[06:53] <linuxnewuserr> but i downloaded the x1900 driver .run file
[06:53] <hjmills> mwe and mnoir: ok - thanks for all the advice - looks like im sticking with gnome
[06:53] <N1kki> Actually one more thing
[06:53] <mwe> Linuturk: doesn't fglrx support that?
[06:53] <N1kki> I havent really got a problem but really need some ideas, I'm a student and for my main project I decided to do something relating to IPTables (networking is a big interest of mine + also this should be useful in real life), thing is the only current idea is performance testing with iptables in place and a test without, I was wondering if anyone had any other ideas for a good project, I've been thinking for couple of weeks now and t
[06:53] <mnoir> hjmills: good move
[06:53] <hjmills> could i replace nautilus with something else in gnome?
[06:53] <Prestwick_> Any ideas?
[06:53] <jrib> linuxnewuserr: /join #easyubuntu
[06:53] <Riyonuk> linuxnewuserr, automatix is easier, just double click and its installed
[06:54] <mwe> hjmills: yeah as long as you keep it installed
[06:54] <mnoir> !automatix
[06:54] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:54] <hjmills> mwe: so nautilus is still needed?
[06:54] <Gosha> allright, so i put a script in ./gnome/nautilus-scripts and made it executable, now .. how do i make it appear on the right-click menu?
[06:54] <scifi> i cant seem to pysdm using sudo apt-get install pysdm, it says Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock and unable to lock administration directory
[06:54] <jrib> linuxnewuserr: what is the x1900 driver file for?
[06:54] <mooey> !worksforme
[06:54] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[06:54] <scifi> install*
[06:54] <linuxnewuserr> how do i find automatix?
[06:54] <lupine_85> !automatix
[06:54] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:54] <mnoir> !automatix
[06:54] <phr34ck> is there an alternative for Visio ?
[06:54] <mwe> hjmills: yeah some programs don't like it not being around
[06:54] <N1kki> did anyone get my long message?
[06:54] <lupine_85> snap :p
[06:54] <Wikipedia-Gast> HELLO
[06:54] <hjmills> mwe: oh ok - no point running anything extra
[06:55] <hjmills> !shout | Wikipedia-Gast
[06:55] <ubotu> Wikipedia-Gast: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:55] <lupine_85> N1kki: linux vs. vista performance testing? :p
[06:55] <Slart> phr34ck: you can try Dia, it's not a full replacement.. but it's a step in the right direction
[06:55] <kdamien> sorry
[06:55] <jughead> how can I mount an *.iso file in ubuntu?
[06:55] <mooey> !iso
[06:55] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[06:55] <Prestwick_> nobdy has any ideas then?
[06:55] <mena> mnoir, how can i solve the prblem of openeing sites throw firefox...i cant open any site throw it ..do ypu know why
[06:55] <Prestwick_> Nobody*
[06:55] <mena> You*
[06:55] <N1kki> hmm, i dunno about that, lol
[06:55] <kdamien> I want to ask a question
[06:56] <mooey> !ask > kdamien
[06:56] <hjmills> mena: did you read the instructions at the top of the page or lower down for dapper? edgy works on the dapper instructions
[06:56] <jrib> mena: can you 'ping www.google.com'?
[06:56] <Slart> Prestwick_: never heard of that error.. sorry
[06:56] <mwe> !ask | kdamien
[06:56] <ubotu> kdamien: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:56] <Prestwick_> Oh
[06:56] <Stonekeepe2> Hi. Anyone ever used a loopback iso as an apt source?
[06:56] <mnoir> mena: dunno - clearly your networking is working since you are talking here
[06:56] <scifi> i cant seem to install pysdm using sudo apt-get install pysdm, it says Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock and unable to lock administration directory
[06:56] <phr34ck> Where is Dia located ?
[06:56] <kdamien> what should I ask?
[06:56] <Prestwick_> Slart: ROFL its just gone
[06:56] <juano> jughead: as root type make dir /media/iso then type mount myiso.iso /media/iso
[06:56] <Prestwick_> Slart: Like literally its vanished just as you said that
[06:56] <jrib> scifi: do you have synaptic or update manager open?
[06:56] <mena> hjmills, i do as it said and iam 6.10
[06:56] <mwe> kdamien: don't be lame
[06:56] <mnoir> kdamien: start with the meaning of life and work your way up
[06:56] <Gosha> !scripts
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scripts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:57] <Gosha> !nautilus
[06:57] <mwe> kdamien: you said you want to ask a question and we say go ahead
[06:57] <ubotu> nautilus: file manager and graphical shell for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 586 kB, installed size 1424 kB
[06:57] <Slart> Prestwick_: hehe.. I think you might have to buy a new graphics card, or monitor if it keeps doing that =)
[06:57] <hjmills> mena: on that page i linked u to there were 2 sets of instructions - u needto use the second one
[06:57] <Gosha> okay, then .. what/where is the script menu in nautilus?
[06:57] <kdamien> what should I ask
[06:57] <juano> jughead: mkdir /media/iso it is. then type mount myiso.iso /media/iso
[06:57] <Prestwick_> Slart: this is an old Compaq Armada M700 laptop lol
[06:57] <Slart> phr34ck: it's in the repositories
[06:57] <jrib> Gosha: it only shows up if you install scripts
[06:57] <mooey> kdamien, ask what you came to ask
[06:57] <mena> hjmills, i will see
[06:57] <jrib> !ops
[06:57] <ragnar_123> anyone here with a working steam install (wine), who also is willing to send me the Friends/friendsUI.dll file?
[06:57] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[06:57] <kdamien> why
[06:58] <Gosha> .. and .. i do that by putting them into the script dir and make them executable, right?
[06:58] <phr34ck> sudo apt-get install Dia <--- package not found
[06:58] <hjmills> kdamien: try asking why we use ubuntu as opposed to windows
[06:58] <Slart> Prestwick_: oh.. light some candles, sacrifice a bbq chicken and hope for the best?
[06:58] <gnomefreak> jrib: ?
[06:58] <linuxnewuserr> can you install KDE onto ubuntu or would it defeat the purpose and just dl kubuntu?
[06:58] <Prestwick_> Slart: I think I haven't configured xorg properly, I accidentally installed the ATI proprietary drivers when I actually have just a Rage Mobility.
[06:58] <Slart> phr34ck: hmm.. I'll have a look.. hold on
[06:58] <jrib> gnomefreak: kdamien, now karras01
[06:58] <mooey> linuxnewuserr, you can. sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[06:58] <mena> jrib, ypu mean by ping googlde open it i try ti ooen it and nothing happened
[06:58] <mena> google*
[06:58] <Prestwick_> Slart: so xorg wouldn't restart, so I reconfigured xorg and chose the older standard ATI drivers.
[06:58] <jrib> mena: that's a command you can run in a terminal
[06:58] <mena> ok
[06:59] <hjmills> mena: open a term and run "ping google.com"
[06:59] <Slart> Prestwick_: ah.. well.. I guess with the wrong driver, anytihng is possible
[06:59] <Gosha> "ame will not necessarily appear on the scripts menu immediately. You first must visit the scripts directory with Nautilus (which can be done using the last option in the scripts menu.)" <-- where is that menu?
[06:59] <jrib> gnomefreak: thanks
[06:59] <Prestwick_> slart: yeah, thats what I'm thinking. Anyway, thanks for the help :)
[06:59] <hjmills> mena: if that works get the ip it tells you and try and connect to that in fx
[06:59] <Slart> phr34ck: it's in graphics, universt
[06:59] <Slart> Prestwick_: you're welcome
[06:59] <mena> hjmills, ok
[06:59] <jrib> Gosha: the scripts directory is ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/
[06:59] <Sp4rKy> please
[07:00] <Slart> phr34ck: you have to enable universe repositories.. in System, Administration, software sources
[07:00] <Gosha> oh, why gnome2?
[07:00] <linuxnewuserr> ok once the kubuntu desktop installs
[07:00] <linuxnewuserr> do i restart?
[07:00] <Sp4rKy> i've 55packages which are not upgraded during update daper => edgy (python*)
[07:00] <linuxnewuserr> to make it work
[07:00] <Slart> phr34ck: there are tick boxes for different repos
[07:00] <Sp4rKy> how can i force them to be upgrade ?
[07:00] <phr34ck> Slart, I have it enabled.
[07:00] <jrib> Gosha: because you are using gnome 2, that's where a lot of gnome-specific stuff goes
[07:00] <Slart> !dia
[07:00] <ubotu> dia: Diagram editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95.0-4ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 179 kB, installed size 528 kB
[07:00] <serishema> why would i get premission denied mounting an NFS share when the allowed host list is * ?
[07:00] <sleepy475> how do I stop my terminal from pining google?
[07:00] <Gosha> ah, didn't know
[07:00] <Gosha> well, thanks
[07:00] <jrib> sleepy475: ctrl-c
[07:00] <mooey> sleepy475, press control and c at the same time
[07:00] <Tsool> Folks, I'm trying to install lirc according to the instructions at http://venky.ws/forums/viewtopic.php?t=279 (I'm running Dapper, though). Everything goes just fine, the setup, the make and make install commands, themodprobe as well (and lsmod shows me the modules loaded). But, when I try mode2 I get the messages mode2: error opening /dev/lirc; mode2: No such device. And this is what I find...
[07:00] <mooey> heh
[07:00] <ragnar_123> (17:57:57) ragnar_123: anyone here with a working steam install (wine), who also is willing to send me the Friends/friendsUI.dll file?
[07:00] <Tsool> ...in /dev: crw-r--r-- 1 root root 61, 0 2007-01-07 18:35 /dev/lirc I've used fuer to check that no other process is using the device file. Any lic-gurus out there who could help me out?
[07:01] <jakob> can I run opensuse programs on ubuntu?
[07:01] <linuxnewuserr> mooey: once it installs will it automatically change to kde?
[07:01] <lupine_85> jakob: probably not
[07:01] <SoulCHild> Hey. does anyone know something about the ubuntu "AC Adapter"-Problem?
[07:01] <lupine_85> if you get hold of the source you can recompile it for ubuntu without any problems though
[07:01] <Riyonuk> jrib, so the only way Im going to get audacious is when fiesty is released?
[07:01] <phr34ck> ahh, it's a dia and not Dia.
[07:01] <jrib> jakob: probably, but you'd install them differently
[07:01] <i7ch> how do i tell make-kpkg to run make with the -j2 option?
[07:01] <Riyonuk> mooey, I heard there was like 2 versions of kde? core and normal?
[07:01] <PA|CodyLoco> hi guys
[07:01] <ragnar_123> hi!
[07:01] <Slart> phr34ck: ah.. case sensitive.. yes
[07:01] <PA|CodyLoco> does anyone have a second to help a newb?
[07:02] <mooey> Riyonuk, i've never used kde so i couldn't say :~)
[07:02] <fab_> hi there
[07:02] <PA|CodyLoco> :)
[07:02] <mena> hjmills, in the fire fox its told me Firefox is configured to use a proxy server that is refusing connections.
[07:02] <mooey> !ask > PA|CodyLoco
[07:02] <N1kki> !hi
[07:02] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:02] <N1kki> !help
[07:02] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:02] <mooey> linuxnewuserr, yep it will
[07:02] <juano> PA|CodyLoco: hi
[07:02] <PA|CodyLoco> hey I'm stuck installing any kind of Ubuntu on a system
[07:02] <mena> hjmills, i disabled the proxy and npw it telling me Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at 72.14.207.99.
[07:02] <SoulCHild> Anyone who knows how to doengrade the kernel to 2.6.16
[07:02] <PA|CodyLoco> it just hangs about ten seconds into the install
[07:02] <fab_> I've got a bit a difficult question about paritions
[07:03] <magic_ninja> PA|CodyLoco: whats the problem
[07:03] <linuxnewuserr> mooey: can I alway return to what I had before? or no
[07:03] <NoWhereMan> hi guys
[07:03] <N1kki> !boot
[07:03] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[07:03] <magic_ninja> PA|CodyLoco: how far can you get sir?
[07:03] <juano> PA|CodyLoco: did you check your installation media?
[07:03] <hjmills> mena: if you need a proxy you will have to leave it enabled
[07:03] <N1kki> this bot is goooood
[07:03] <ragnar_123> anyone here with a working steam installation?
[07:03] <mooey> linuxnewuserr, yes you can. just select a gnome session when you log on.
[07:03] <NoWhereMan> I don't see anumore the eject command in right click menu for thumb drives
[07:03] <magic_ninja> ragnar_123: mine works
[07:03] <NoWhereMan> is it just me?
[07:03] <Gosha> !qemu
[07:03] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[07:03] <PA|CodyLoco> yeah I've burned the disks about three times, once to a DVD even
[07:03] <PA|CodyLoco> at slowest speed
[07:03] <jrib> Riyonuk: audacious seems to provide ubuntu repositories as well
[07:03] <SoulCHild> HELLO, how can i downgrade my kernel to 2.6.16
[07:03] <juano> PA|CodyLoco: mm, what type of PC are you installing on?
[07:03] <PA|CodyLoco> it hangs right after it tries to load the linux kernel
[07:03] <jakob> Can someone help me find xwinwrap?
[07:04] <N1kki> !hello
[07:04] <ubotu> hello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB
[07:04] <fab_> I've got a dualboot ubuntu / windows xp system, and I can't create a linuxpartition outside of my extended partition, how can I change this?
[07:04] <linuxnewuserr> if you install kde can you always return to the old DE that was default?
[07:04] <Aggort> How do I go about running badblocks?
[07:04] <mena> hjmills, you mean enable it in the fire fox and the network proxy ......but i dont need any one of them
[07:04] <N1kki> !noob
[07:04] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[07:04] <linuxnewuserr> same here fab
[07:04] <linuxnewuserr> fab i hear ya
[07:04] <castoff> PA|CodyLoco did you md5sum the iso?
[07:04] <ragnar_123> magic_ninja: can you send me your Friends/friendsUI.dll, mine just doesn't work, and I do not have much bandwidth to reinstall.
[07:04] <PA|CodyLoco> a new Acer machine with a P4D, 300GB HDD, 1GB RAM
[07:04] <N1kki> sorry, shuld stop flooding the chan, lol
[07:04] <Aggort> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ badblocks -n-s-v/dev/hda/
[07:04] <Aggort> badblocks: invalid option -- -                                                Is that not right?
[07:04] <hjmills> mena: if you dont have a proxy then turn off the proxy in both gnome and firefox
[07:04] <hoelk> hmm what does jfgi mean
[07:04] <Riyonuk> So in installing KDE, it autmatically download kubuntu?
[07:04] <aslddjfn> hello
[07:05] <fab_> linuxnewuserr, how long you've been looking for a solution?
[07:05] <PA|CodyLoco> no, it wont load the disk checker
[07:05] <SoulCHild> ubotu: downgrade kernel?
[07:05] <jrib> jakob: http://swik.net/xwinwrap
[07:05] <Slart> N1kki: try searching and appending >N1kki.. as this  "!gnome < N1kki".. that way you wont be spamming the channel so much
[07:05] <hjmills> jakob: google is your friend :D
[07:05] <castoff> Riyonuk: the splash screen yes
[07:05] <PA|CodyLoco> and the ISO is fine because I had installed it on my old system
[07:05] <linuxnewuserr> lol for a day
[07:05] <magic_ninja> ragnar_123: sure no problem
[07:05] <jakob> jrib, I tried that, but I can't open the file.
[07:05] <Aggort> badblocks -n-s-v/dev/hda/
[07:05] <Aggort> What am I doing wrong?
[07:05] <ragnar_123> magic_ninja: thanks :D
[07:05] <N1kki> !gnome < n1kki
[07:05] <ubotu> gnome: The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.14.2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 44 kB
[07:05] <jrib> jakob: you need to compile it after you download it
[07:05] <magic_ninja> PA|CodyLoco: try breaking it down
[07:05] <jrib> !compiling | jakob
[07:05] <ubotu> jakob: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:05] <N1kki> better download the install Cd, C ya later guys, thanks for the hlp
[07:05] <PA|CodyLoco> what do you mean?
[07:05] <magic_ninja> ragnar_123: what part of the file tree is it in
[07:05] <juano> PA|CodyLoco: are you dual booting with another operating system? how is your grub configuration when installing?
[07:06] <n3t0> some one can help me with this http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/1289
[07:06] <mena> hjmills, i done it in the both ...and its the same result ......Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at www.google.com.
[07:06] <Aggort> badblocks -n-s-v/dev/hda/
[07:06] <N1kki> !install > n1kki
[07:06] <Aggort> What is wrong with that?
[07:06] <ragnar_123> magic_ninja: program files/steam/friends/friendsUI.dll
[07:06] <fab_> can someone help   linuxnewuserr and me with a partitionproblem?
[07:06] <PA|CodyLoco> juano I was trying to do a dualboot or even just wipe the whole HDD
[07:06] <hjmills> mena: if you have a router then reboot that and see if that helps - check other pcs on the network if there are any and see if they have the problem
[07:06] <PA|CodyLoco> juano using the Live CD
[07:07] <mena> hjmills, okay i will
[07:07] <PA|CodyLoco> any option I choose, including the "verify CD" option it just kind of hangs at a blinking cursor
[07:07] <hjmills> mena: if you still have probs and its def just ure pc then try grabbing a new ip (if using dhcp) or resetting your static ip if using that
[07:07] <NoWhereMan> guys, do you still have the right click "eject" for usb drives on edgy?
[07:07] <ragnar_123> magic_ninja: found it?
[07:07] <linuxnewuserr> mooey:  so if i install this kubuntu de is my ubuntu no more ubuntu but called kubuntu? lol
[07:07] <magic_ninja> PA|CodyLoco: try doing this if you can
[07:07] <fab_> nowhereman, I should be included yes
[07:07] <mena> hjmills, ok
[07:08] <Tsool> Folks, I'm trying to install lirc according to the instructions at http://venky.ws/forums/viewtopic.php?t=279 (I'm running Dapper, though). Everything goes just fine, the setup, the make and make install commands, themodprobe as well (and lsmod shows me the modules loaded). But, when I try mode2 I get the messages mode2: error opening /dev/lirc; mode2: No such device. And this is what I find...
[07:08] <Slart> NoWhereMan: nope.. I have an "umount" command though
[07:08] <Tsool> ...in /dev: crw-r--r-- 1 root root 61, 0 2007-01-0718:35  /dev/lirc I've used fuer to check that no other process is using the device file. Any lirc-gurus out there who could help me out?
[07:08] <mooey> linuxnewuserr, it will install some kubuntu branding, uea
[07:08] <juano> PA|CodyLoco: mm im not quite sure what it could be, it could be related to a hardware incompatibilty, i had sort of the same issue when trying to install a red hat 9.0 on a P4 80 GB 512 RAM
[07:08] <magic_ninja> ragnar_123: just delete it...it will remake itself
[07:08] <mooey> *yea
[07:08] <Aggort> Anyone tell my what is wrong with this command? badblocks -n-s/dev/hda/
[07:08] <NoWhereMan> Slart, whatever
[07:08] <mena> hjmills, thanks For Your Help
[07:08] <NoWhereMan> mine is localized
[07:08] <hjmills> mena: sure
[07:08] <cappicard> hmm... us.ubuntu.archives.com is slow as hell today
[07:08] <mooey> Aggort, perhaps you need to space the -arguments -out? badblocks -n -s /dev/hda
[07:08] <magic_ninja> ragnar_123: i don't have any friends on it anyway
[07:08] <NoWhereMan> but I don't have that anymore :/
[07:08] <RancidLM> can any one suggest a good PDF reader that has a "high lighting" feature?
[07:08] <PA|CodyLoco> juano wait is a Pentium D925 64 bit?
[07:08] <jakob> jrib, I can't do anything to that file you linked me to.
[07:08] <Pitbull_R> Hi all.
[07:08] <hjmills> Aggort: that should be badblocks -ns /dev/hda
[07:09] <juano> PA|CodyLoco: are you on a 64 bit?
[07:09] <PA|CodyLoco> magic_ninja doing what?
[07:09] <Pitbull_R> Anyone have a clue as to why my pc keeps rebooting right after installing 6.10 server?
[07:09] <NoWhereMan> fab_, I didnt understand u
[07:09] <PA|CodyLoco> juano I dunno is it 64bit?
[07:09] <PA|CodyLoco> lol
[07:09] <Aggort> ns?
[07:09] <Aggort> why
[07:09] <Xzyx987X> hey, this new Plextor-760A DVD-RW drive I installed doesn't seem to work in ubuntu, but it works fine in windows on the same computer
[07:09] <ragnar_123> magic_ninja: it should, but it doesn't. The file just simply doesnt exist, and steam wont start without it.
[07:09] <PA|CodyLoco> juano I don't use Intel procs so I don't really know lol
[07:09] <juano> PA|CodyLoco: cause if you are you need the x86_64 isos not the i586
[07:09] <Xzyx987X> the drive even works in vmware with windows xp running as a guest under ubuntu
[07:09] <PA|CodyLoco> i386 is what I have
[07:10] <fab_> NoWhereMan, when you rightclick on a usb device, then there should be the eject-option (also in edgy)
[07:10] <Xzyx987X> can anyone help me figure out the problem?
[07:10] <PA|CodyLoco> juano can I PM you this is giving me a head ache
[07:10] <jrib> jakob: are you able to download it?
[07:10] <juano> PA|CodyLoco: lol yes
[07:10] <NoWhereMan> fab_, there used to be
[07:10] <NoWhereMan> it's not anymore :/
[07:10] <Aggort> OK then what on earth does this mean ...
[07:10] <Aggort> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ badblocks -n -s -v /dev/hda/
[07:10] <Aggort> badblocks: Not a directory while trying to determine device size
[07:10] <jakob> jrib, yes. But I can't unzip it nor open it with a text editor
[07:11] <NoWhereMan> it worked using the disk applet, but it used to be there :/
[07:11] <fab_>  NoWhereMan, you've done anything special before it disappeared?
[07:11] <scifi> jrib: yes i did *slaps himself*
[07:11] <jrib> jakob: ah it seems the one there is already compiled, I had originally gotten it from somwhere else.  Anyway, do this:  chmod +x xwinwrap, then run the file with:  ./xwinwrap
[07:11] <linuxnewuserr> mooey:  this is a long install lol
[07:11] <NoWhereMan> fab_, I think there was a dbus upadte today
[07:11] <ragnar_123> magic_ninja: my steam says that i have a bad module (but the file isn't there (and steam doesn't create it)). Can I have yours?
[07:11] <scifi> jrib: but unfortunately E: Couldn't find package pysdm
[07:11] <jakob> okay, thanks jrib :)
[07:11] <fab_> NoWhereMan: ok, hang on a moment
[07:11] <jrib> !universe | scifi
[07:11] <ubotu> scifi: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:11] <castoff> Aggort: use it on a partition not a device
[07:12] <castoff> Aggort: i.e. badblocks /dev/hda1
[07:12] <Aggort> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ badblocks -n -s -v /dev/hda
[07:12] <Aggort> badblocks: Permission denied while trying to determine device size
[07:12] <Aggort> why would permission be denied.... castoff: I need to do the whole device sorry
[07:13] <linuxnewuserr> KDE looks so much nicer than nome
[07:13] <scifi> jrib: do the dapper instructions work for edgy too?
[07:13] <jrib> scifi: should be similar
[07:13] <jakob> jrib, ./xwinwrap gives me "Error: couldn't create command line"
[07:13] <jrib> jakob: weird, what arch are you on?
[07:14] <castoff> Aggort: not sure you can
[07:14] <fab_> NoWhereMan: I researched a bit, but I don't know how to recover it
[07:14] <jakob> jrib, arch?
[07:14] <pranav> plz ppl
[07:14] <pranav> help
[07:14] <pranav> me
[07:14] <pranav> plz
[07:14] <jakob> pranav, please be patient.
[07:14] <pranav> i have ubuntu 6.06
[07:14] <Aggort> castoff: Well somehow I need to find out if anything at the evry begining of the drive is corrupted
[07:14] <pranav> and have cd of ubuntu 6.10
[07:14] <fab_> NoWhereMan: seems like you have to use the unmount command for a while
[07:14] <pranav> how to upgrade??
[07:15] <NoWhereMan> fab_, disk applet works
[07:15] <Wiseguy> hey guys, for some reason it looks like when im in ubuntu there is like a haze or blur over the screen or something... its not really noticeable, but compared to how sharp my text and icons look in windows i tend to notice a difference... does anyone know what would cause this? or am i just delirious?
[07:15] <linuxnewuserr> mooey: how long does this thing take to install, it's been like 20 min lol
[07:15] <fab_> NoWhereMan: aha ok
[07:15] <jrib> jakob: architecture
[07:15] <hjmills> linuxnewuserr: what are you installing?
[07:15] <Silmeria> hi
[07:15] <NoWhereMan> still that's really strange
[07:15] <Silmeria> you know i was wondering....
[07:15] <jakob> jrib, as in ubuntu?
[07:15] <mooey> linuxnewuserr, kde is large. it will take some time.
[07:15] <Aggort> castoff: Even doing it by partition the device size still gets checked
[07:15] <NoWhereMan> fab_, it's strange because there's no eect in computer:/// either :/
[07:15] <Silmeria> is there a way to install ubuntu via the live cd?
[07:15] <PA|CodyLoco> juano Please check PC
[07:15] <ragnar_123> magic_ninja: if you dont really understand, then look at this: http://upit.jtw.dk/dl/wsu/
[07:15] <PA|CodyLoco> PM*
[07:16] <mooey> Silmeria, double click 'Install' on the desktop
[07:16] <hjmills> jakob: as in 64bit, x86, power pc etc
[07:16] <Silmeria> there isn't such 'install' on my desktop :/
[07:16] <pranav> mooey..
[07:16] <pranav> mooey
[07:16] <jakob> jrib, hjmills, x64
[07:16] <zspada15> hi, i have a Pentium 4 with HT and EMT64, which kernel would be the best?
[07:16] <juano> PA|CodyLoco: i PM you
[07:16] <PA|CodyLoco> What ISO do I need for a Intel Pentium D 925 3.0GHz / 4MB Cache / 800MHz FSB / Dual-Core / Presler / OEM / Socket 775 / Processor
[07:16] <castoff> Aggort: i just read the manpage and it says by partition basically, it is how I have always used it
[07:16] <pranav> how to upgrade to edgy
[07:16] <mooey> pranav?
[07:16] <pranav> from cd
[07:16] <fab_> NoWhereMan: that's really strange, but I'm too new to linux, I can't help you though :-/
[07:16] <hjmills> Silmeria: what version of the live cd u got?
[07:16] <Silmeria> i think it's a pretty old version!
[07:16] <NoWhereMan> fab_, oh well thanks, then
[07:16] <pranav> moey
[07:17] <pranav> how to upgrade to edgy
[07:17] <jrib> jakob: k it was probably compiled on x86.  You can try to grab the source from http://webcvs.freedesktop.org/xapps/xwinwrap/ and compile it yourself, though I have no idea if it will work
[07:17] <Silmeria> should i get a newer one?
[07:17] <PA|CodyLoco> juano why the hell aren't I getting your messages?
[07:17] <juano> PA|CodyLoco: aahh.. your not on 64, you got D
[07:17] <PA|CodyLoco> juano :(
[07:17] <black_abaddon> hi
[07:17] <zspada15> anyone know which kernel i should get?
[07:17] <hjmills> Silmeria: get edgy - its the latest
[07:17] <PA|CodyLoco> juano so whats that mean?
[07:17] <jakob> jrib, that was the first one I got, but it gabe me the "missing separator"
[07:17] <fab_> hjmills:  you know how I could make a linux partition outside of an extended partition?
[07:17] <mooey> !edgy > pranav
[07:17] <linuxnewuserr> mooey: some screen came up and just selected KDE and hit ok
[07:17] <pranav> mmya
[07:17] <linuxnewuserr> is it done now
[07:17] <linuxnewuserr> ?
[07:17] <PA|CodyLoco> juano which ISO should I get, pardon my ignorance but I enver use Intel
[07:17] <juano> PA|CodyLoco: well, you got a processor with 2 "brains"
[07:17] <jrib> jakob: what did you do for it to give you that?
[07:17] <Silmeria> edgy? never heard of it...where should i download it?
[07:17] <mooey> linuxnewuserr, its done when it returns you to the command prompt
[07:17] <Silmeria> i'm new to ubuntu :p
[07:18] <fab_> linuxnewuserr: you've solved your problem with the extended partition?
[07:18] <mooey> !edgy | Silmeria
[07:18] <ubotu> Silmeria: Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[07:18] <juano> PA|CodyLoco: well, i think i386 should do in that case
[07:18] <PA|CodyLoco> juano Yeah I know what dualcore is :)  which ISO should
[07:18] <mena> hjmills. i change my ip and then i must ask any one on the network ....if it was working so what to do ...oh .. i was have the fire starter firewall installed my be its the reason for that
[07:18] <zspada15> !HT
[07:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about HT - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:18] <jakob> jrib, make install. Make gave the same error.
[07:18] <linuxnewuserr> nah fab
[07:18] <PA|CodyLoco> juano that's what I'm using
[07:18] <linuxnewuserr> i'm more worried about kde
[07:18] <linuxnewuserr> at the moment
[07:18] <black_abaddon> http://slipknotmaggots.blog.hr/
[07:18] <jrib> jakob: pastebin
[07:18] <Silmeria> thanks everyone
[07:18] <hjmills> fab_: you can install linux on a primary partition if you have a spare one - but the extended partitions are just the same in a wrapper because of how partitions work
[07:18] <juano> PA|CodyLoco: did you try x86_64?
[07:18] <zspada15> do i need an smp kernel if i have hyperthreading?
[07:18] <jakob> jrib, the file?
[07:18] <PA|CodyLoco> juano I could
[07:19] <PA|CodyLoco> juano I was using i386
[07:19] <linuxnewuserr> mooey: I rebooted my comp and it's not KDE?
[07:19] <zspada15> !smp
[07:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:19] <fab_>  hjmills: the problem is, that I've got one primary ntfs partition (windows) and all others are trapped in the extended
[07:19] <juano> PA|CodyLoco: ok, let me see if i can come up with something
[07:19] <castoff> zspada15: yes
[07:19] <PA|CodyLoco> juano ok
[07:19] <black_abaddon> hi
[07:19] <mooey> linuxnewuserr, did you let the install process finish?
[07:19] <hjmills> linuxnewuserr: just log out and log in choosing kde from the sessions list (click sessions and choose kde)
[07:19] <jakob> jrib, I think I might have found the error, hang on
[07:19] <black_abaddon> i am satan
[07:19] <ragnar_123> Hi!
[07:19] <jrib> jakob: the output from make (if it still doesn't work)
[07:19] <linuxnewuserr> yeah
[07:20] <linuxnewuserr> it came up with some menu
[07:20] <mena> hjmills, do u think that maybe firestarter firewall was the reason .... i unstalled it
[07:20] <linuxnewuserr> of which one to pick
[07:20] <linuxnewuserr> than I hit ok
[07:20] <fab_> hjmills: I don't know how it happened, I erased the whole disk, then installed winxp with 2 ntfs partitions and then Linux with one fat, 2 ext3 and 1 linux swap
[07:20] <linuxnewuserr> then nothing else happened
[07:20] <zspada15> castoff: do i necessarily need it, or will i just notice performance increases?
[07:20] <black_abaddon> mrcvarim vam mame
[07:20] <linuxnewuserr> so i rebooted it then mooey
[07:20] <juano> PA|CodyLoco: actually x86_64 is only for AMD
[07:20] <black_abaddon> jesi tu?
[07:20] <hjmills> fab_: u can have up to 4 primary paritions but if you want more than 4 paritions one of those 4 paritions mst be an extended one with the rest inside
[07:20] <juano> PA|CodyLoco: so you wont need that
[07:20] <PA|CodyLoco> juano ok
[07:20] <jakob> jrib, the files I download were .htm's. It should work now.
[07:20] <castoff> zspada15: oh it will run fine w/o it...i never noticed much difference
[07:20] <PA|CodyLoco> juano then?
[07:20] <Son> i  cant login in my xps66
[07:21] <hjmills> fab_: i would recommend putting the / parition on primary if you can but if not - dont worry - it shouldnt matter
[07:21] <zspada15> castoff: well, i decided to get the 64 bit version because i'd figure that would be faster than the 32
[07:21] <hjmills> fab_:  what is the prob
[07:21] <castoff> zspada15: on a soyo m/b it even creashed it so i turned hyperthreading off in the bnios
[07:21] <Gosha> !iso
[07:21] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[07:21] <mooey> linuxnewuserr, do: aptititude install kubuntu-desktop and then wait for it to return to the prompt, then reboot
[07:21] <black_abaddon> adfaefsf
[07:21] <lightman> where i the grub folder installed?
[07:21] <Silmeria> hum hum....i've got a pretty noob question......
[07:21] <zspada15> Silmeria: ask away
[07:21] <fab_> hjmills: the problem is, that when it's logical, then the setup of ubuntu says that there's no root filesystem
[07:21] <linuxnewuserr> k
[07:21] <Silmeria> how do i type characters like # with xchat?
[07:21] <Silmeria> xDDDD
[07:21] <Son> HAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[07:22] <Silmeria> so ashamed to ask
[07:22] <zspada15> Silmeria: what do u mean?
[07:22] <hjmills> !shout | Son
[07:22] <ubotu> Son: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:22] <b0uncer> hi everyone
[07:22] <PacketScan> if i use "apt-get source evolution"  can i build with apt? or do i have to go find the source directory and build ?
[07:22] <Son> ok guys
[07:22] <black_abaddon> esi?
[07:22] <juano> PA|CodyLoco: what ubuntu you got , edgy?
[07:22] <mooey> PacketScan, look at dpkg-buildpackage
[07:22] <Son> evo me
[07:22] <fab_> hjmills: I wanted to make a seperate home partition, but I think I can forget this now :-/
[07:22] <black_abaddon> bok
[07:22] <Son> sta je?
[07:22] <lightman> question: where is the grub folder in ubuntu?
[07:22] <Silmeria> i mean i can't type also -> @ with this client
[07:22] <Son> sta ima
[07:22] <CrazyDoode> !bcm43xx
[07:22] <jerp> silmeria, uppercase 3 (shift +3)
[07:22] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:22] <Silmeria> i can just copy and paste it
[07:23] <timmae> Silmeria, Shift+3?
[07:23] <black_abaddon> ajmo priat s njima o ovim sranjima
[07:23] <hjmills> fab_: provided the root partition is on a primary partition you should be fine
[07:23] <fab_> lightman: /etc/grub
[07:23] <Son> kak su ovi glupi ko kurac!
[07:23] <linuxnewuserr> dun dun dun shout dundundun shout to the devil
[07:23] <Son> ajd
[07:23] <black_abaddon> probaj se uklopit
[07:23] <fab_> lightman: I think
[07:23] <PA|CodyLoco> juano yeah 6.10
[07:23] <PA|CodyLoco> ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[07:23] <Silmeria> omg doesn't work
[07:23] <hjmills> lightman: /boot/grub
[07:23] <mnoir> Silmeria: what keyboard are you using?
[07:23] <Silmeria> italian?
[07:23] <b0uncer> if I want to create a separate /home partition when installing Ubuntu, but still use logical volume groups, how would I go about; do I just manually create / and /home partitions and go on, does Ubuntu make use of logical volume groups, or do I have to manually configure them?
[07:23] <hjmills> fab_: provided you dont have a /boot parition
[07:23] <lightman> fab_: i thought the same but is not there
[07:23] <linuxnewuserr> i like linux , once i understand it i'll be ok
[07:23] <black_abaddon> i cant copy main system file!help please
[07:23] <lightman> i do have /boot but is not there either
[07:23] <mnoir> Silmeria: maybe ask in #ubuntu-it ?
[07:23] <b0uncer> and does it make it more difficult to later overwrite-install another Linux, sparing /home ?
[07:23] <mooey> Silmeria, check that your keyboard type and layout are correct in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard
[07:23] <Son> ubuntu 1,66 + iso-ico!
[07:23] <fab_> hjmills: winxp partition has the boot flag
[07:23] <hjmills> lightman: /boot/grub is where it should be
[07:23] <linuxnewuserr> mooey: it didn't work still nome
[07:24] <Silmeria> should i? i have an autojoin here xD
[07:24] <Silmeria> everytime i open the client
[07:24] <zspada15> linuxnewuserr: linux is about what NOT to do, once you understand what NOT to do, than your ok
[07:24] <fab_> hjmills: can I whisper you please?
[07:24] <hjmills> fab_: then you need to reinstall grub and make sure its working
[07:24] <hjmills> fab_: sure
[07:24] <Silmeria> well sorry to bother
[07:24] <black_abaddon> where can i get new linux for my windows
[07:24] <black_abaddon> ?
[07:24] <mnoir> Silmeria: english speakers tend to have reduced knowledge of these type of issues :)
[07:24] <Silmeria> i know it's annoying to reply to such noobish questions
[07:24] <Ice_Wewe> does anyone know which package provides libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0? Synaptic won't find it for me
[07:24] <zspada15> Silmeria: we are a support channel, no question is too noobish or stupid
[07:25] <mooey> Ice_Wewe, you can search packages by file on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[07:25] <linuxnewuserr> mooey: should I just try synaptic?
[07:25] <linuxnewuserr> mooey: KDE didn't load
[07:25] <lupine_85> #ubuntu-it is if you want to ask questions in italian :)
[07:25] <hustler1> black_abaddone- new linux?
[07:25] <Silmeria> so where can i find a kind of charmap? xD
[07:25] <mooey> linuxnewuserr, did you select KDE session when you logged in?
[07:25] <black_abaddon> yes
[07:25] <black_abaddon> please help me
[07:25] <linuxnewuserr> it didn't prompt it
[07:25] <mooey> Silmeria, System -> Preferences -> Keyboard
[07:25] <b0uncer> hm well seems you're too busy..
[07:25] <hustler1> what are u asking for?
[07:25] <linuxnewuserr> just asked for username and w
[07:25] <linuxnewuserr> pw
[07:26] <black_abaddon> new linux programs for my linux
[07:26] <mooey> linuxnewuserr, you have to click the sessions button and select KDE
[07:26] <juano> PA|CodyLoco: you told me that installing on another PC works fine right?
[07:26] <Son> where can i get new linux for my windows?
[07:26] <mooey> !synaptic > black_abaddon
[07:26] <jakob> jrib, I was able to make, but not make install.
[07:26] <PA|CodyLoco> juano please accept my DCC chat, PMs are being blocked by server
[07:26] <hustler1> use apt-get
[07:26] <linuxnewuserr> mooey: when it loads the os?
[07:26] <mooey> !elaborate > Son
[07:26] <sight> hi all
[07:26] <jrib> jakob: there is no make install
[07:26] <mena> !H
[07:26] <Silmeria> thanks everyone
[07:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about H - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:26] <black_abaddon> apt-get?where can i get one?
[07:26] <hustler1> synaptic
[07:26] <Son> copy paste hahahahaha
[07:27] <mooey> linuxnewuserr, when you are looking at the login screen, use the session button or menu
[07:27] <Ice_Wewe> mooey: great, thanks
[07:27] <jakob> jrib, so should I just copy the files I got from "make" to some folder?
[07:27] <linuxnewuserr> k
[07:27] <mooey> Ice_Wewe, no problem
[07:27] <Ice_Wewe> is there anyway I get install the contents of the package to another directory?
[07:27] <PA|CodyLoco> juano and yes i was able to install xubuntu onto an old celeron 400 machine with like 92MB of ram
[07:27] <jrib> jakob: you can leave it there and just run ./xwinwrap.  If that works, copy it wherever you want
[07:27] <Ice_Wewe> I'm trying to run 32bit firefox (so I can have java), but I want to keep my 64bit firefox
[07:27] <rejeep> Hi! How do I open gnome-terminal with fullscreen?
[07:27] <hustler1> black_abaddon- what dist. of linux u got now?
[07:27] <black_abaddon> linux are better when you use them on your windows
[07:27] <jakob> jrib, okay thanks, I'll give it a try
[07:27] <PA|CodyLoco> so I upgraded to this machine so I could run Ubuntu
[07:27] <k31th> any ideas how i can extract an image from a pdf
[07:27] <mooey> Ice_Wewe, deb package locations are fixed. you can recompile the package with a different install location.
[07:27] <mena> hjmills, i think that i wil renistall ubuntu mybe thats fix the problem
[07:27] <fab_> Ice_Wewe: you've tried chroot?
[07:27] <Son> PA|CodyLoco your comp SUCKS
[07:27] <hjmills> mena: should do but its a bit drastic surely?
[07:28] <black_abaddon> dist.?
[07:28] <Ice_Wewe> fab_: haven't bothered to make one for Edgy yet, had one for dapper
[07:28] <black_abaddon> elaborate
[07:28] <Son> razjasniti
[07:28] <Ice_Wewe> fab_: tell me, is there anyway I can export the display from my Dapper chroot to my Edgy system?
[07:28] <PA|CodyLoco> Son That is my third machine in my basement
[07:28] <mena> hjmills, okay
[07:28] <linuxnewuserr> mooey: i'm in session but KDE is not there?
[07:28] <Ice_Wewe> fab_: cause it won't work otherwise
[07:28] <hustler1> distribution=version
[07:28] <hjmills> Ice_Wewe: i think there is a guide in the wiki
[07:28] <fab_> Ice_Wewe: I had the same problem, now I'm switched back to 32bit ubuntu
[07:28] <MungoPark> ive got trouble installing libglib2.0-dev
[07:28] <black_abaddon> i am new user so help me please
[07:28] <Son> PA|CodyLoco:ok
[07:28] <hjmills> mena: is it def your pc that has the probs?
[07:28] <Ice_Wewe> hjmills: where is that wiki located?
[07:28] <k31th> any ideas how i can extract an image from a pdf
[07:28] <redmonkey> why dont you install kubuntu if you want to use kde anyway?
[07:28] <black_abaddon> oh 1.18b
[07:29] <Son> PA|CodyLoco:whats up?
[07:29] <hjmills> !wiki | Ice_Wewe
[07:29] <ubotu> Ice_Wewe: wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[07:29] <mooey> linuxnewuserr, if kubuntu-desktop is installed that session should be there. if its not i would recommend getting a proper kubuntu cd and installing from that
[07:29] <Ice_Wewe> hjmills: thanks
[07:29] <linuxnewuserr> k
[07:29] <hjmills> Ice_Wewe: sure
[07:29] <linuxnewuserr> thanks
[07:29] <hustler1> of ubuntu, suse,etc......?
[07:29] <black_abaddon> suse
[07:29] <mena> hjmills, Not Yet I didnt Ask others on the network
[07:29] <PA|CodyLoco> Son I'm stuck installing Ubuntu on a Pentium D 925
[07:29] <jerp> black _abaddon, new linux what?  do you know how to use google?   go here and check out some screenshots .. www.osdir.com  and enter their name into google to find their site to dl
[07:29] <jakob> jrib, I get this now "Usage: xwinwrap [-g]  [-ni]  [-argb]  [-fs]  [-s]  [-st]  [-sp]  [-a]  [-b]  [-nf] " "[-o OPACITY]  -- COMMAND ARG1..."
[07:29] <hjmills> mena: well check that first - no point reinstalling if its a network issue!!!
[07:29] <Son> PA|CodyLoco:can i help?
[07:29] <jrib> jakob: good, that's how you use it.  The swik site from before has some example
[07:30] <jrib> s
[07:30] <PA|CodyLoco> Son yeah for sure if you have any ideas
[07:30] <sight> i have trouble with connecting ext hdd sarotech by firewire to asus l3tp. and i can't find something that can help me with it. can anybody help me?
[07:30] <fab_> hjmills: you received my whispered message? (because i'm using trillian at the moment and I don't know if you can receive it)
[07:30] <castoff> linuxnewuserr: look at http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php
[07:30] <jakob> jrib, cool thanks. I'll have a look then.
[07:30] <hjmills> fab_: no - i was wondering if you had sent it
[07:30] <black_abaddon> yes thanks i yust got computer and i have linux
[07:30] <castoff> linuxnewuserr: 3rd bullet
[07:30] <fab_> hjmills:  damn trillian ^^
[07:30] <aimtrainer__> hi! can anyone tell me how to wipe a usb disk please?
[07:30] <mena> hjmills, okay ...
[07:30] <PA|CodyLoco> fab_ server blocks PMs from unregistered users
[07:30] <user01> how do i search for available wireless connections in ubuntu?
[07:30] <ublender> how would you format a command to copy a folder off another person's computer with scp?
[07:30] <fab_> hjmills: I can read it
[07:30] <fab_> hjmills: what you're writing
[07:31] <juano> PA|CodyLoco: im sorry, i cant find anything still... i'm gonna keep looking
[07:31] <PA|CodyLoco> fab_ Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register!
[07:31] <hustler1> I can't access my flopy drive- says please specify the filesystem type?
[07:31] <PA|CodyLoco> juano k thanks
[07:31] <hjmills> mena: if its def your pc then check /etc/network/interfaces to make sure that is all correct
[07:31] <Son> PA|CodyLoco:you need to copy file to linux
[07:31] <fab_>  PA|CodyLoco: I see
[07:31] <fab_>  PA|CodyLoco thank you
[07:31] <fab_> !register
[07:31] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[07:31] <black_abaddon> are there any good programs for video and audio merging in linux?
[07:31] <PA|CodyLoco> Son what do you mean?
[07:31] <jerp> hustler1, is it ext3?
[07:31] <mena> hjmills, ok  i will
[07:32] <black_abaddon> please help
[07:32] <castoff> ublender: scp -r user_name@machine:/path /your_path
[07:32] <hjmills> mena: if that needs changing then fix that (need sudo to edit it) and then "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[07:32] <fab_> hjmills: I quick register a nick
[07:32] <juano> PA|CodyLoco: maybe you could try partitioning less HD for Ubuntu
[07:32] <Son> i dont know
[07:32] <hustler1> jerp- no
[07:32] <jerp> black _abaddon, vlc or mplayer
[07:32] <juano> PA|CodyLoco: try giving it 80 GB or something
[07:32] <caminomaster> hi
[07:32] <user01> i have my wireless connection working but i manually entered the ssid, but what if im at  like a webcaf?  how do i scan for it?
[07:32] <Son> PA|CodyLoco:sorry i dont know
[07:32] <PA|CodyLoco> juano I can't get into the partition part
[07:32] <PA|CodyLoco> son np
[07:32] <xfab> 
[07:32] <juano> PA|CodyLoco: oo..
[07:33] <PA|CodyLoco> juano like the installer doesn't boot at all is my problem
[07:33] <caminomaster> i need a hdd monitor... can you suggest one?
[07:33] <black_abaddon> my kj125 is out of line and has some errors on it, does anyone knows how to fix this?
[07:33] <hustler1> i copied a file from my xp machine onto this disk, now I want to copy to my linux computer
[07:33] <mena> hjmills, ok .... but when i do that it telling me /etc/network/interfaces: command not found....
[07:33] <Son> hustler1:yes
[07:33] <PA|CodyLoco> juano it gets stuck right after it boots from CD and I choose to run Ubuntu to install it
[07:33] <sight> user01 i think wireless assistan manager can help u
[07:33] <hjmills> mena: use "sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces"
[07:33] <mena> hjmills, although i typed sudo befor it
[07:33] <xfab>  /msg NickServ set email garry.pierce@yahoo.com
[07:33] <mena> ok
[07:33] <hustler1> but linux machine can't read floppy disk
[07:33] <PA|CodyLoco> juano which is why I am so damn confused- why it won't work cuz it should
[07:34] <hjmills> mena: you want to open it - not run it
[07:34] <juano> PA|CodyLoco: ohh i see.. let me check
[07:34] <PA|CodyLoco> xfab now we get to spam you :P
[07:34] <PA|CodyLoco> xfab j/k
[07:34] <mena> ok i see
[07:34] <xfab> PA|CodyLoco: hehe :D
[07:34] <PA|CodyLoco> !register
[07:34] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[07:35] <jerp> hustler1, what extension is the file you are transferring
[07:35] <black_abaddon> freenode is great.does anyone agree?
[07:35] <Son> Someone know some program which can mix video?
[07:35] <mena> hjmills, the ip is correct the on i i use ....
[07:35] <mena> one*
[07:35] <black_abaddon> son try using nero
[07:35] <Son> nero?hahahah
[07:35] <jedix> How do I stop ubuntu from using one of my soundcards?
[07:35] <black_abaddon> yust kiding
[07:35] <jedix> I want it to stop using the onboard one..
[07:35] <sight> Son i need kino
[07:36] <sight> Son U need kino :))
[07:36] <jedix> I turned it off in the bios, and that did nothing.
[07:36] <Son> sight: kino?
[07:36] <sight> yeap.
[07:36] <Son> sight:buy kino!
[07:36] <black_abaddon> i am seling video eqipment does anyone wants to buy?
[07:37] <PA|CodyLoco> Does anyone know if there is a free blackberry enterprise server for linux?
[07:37] <black_abaddon> i am cheap
[07:37] <black_abaddon> yes there is
[07:37] <Son> sight:halooo!
[07:37] <Aiminghigh> hey, how can i tell apt-get to install into a different root?
[07:37] <PA|CodyLoco> black_abaddon where/how?
[07:37] <fredl> I seem to be having problems with installing 6.10 from the CD...
[07:37] <Aiminghigh> i want apt-get to install a program into a chrooted directory
[07:37] <jedix> can someone please tell me how to make ubuntu ignore a piece of hardware?
[07:38] <fredl> is there also a way to make 6.10 install in non-X ?
[07:38] <hendrixski> blackberry + linux sounds like a winning combination, I want to hear more
[07:38] <black_abaddon> http://s1.bitefight.ba/c.php?uid=37762
[07:38] <raf256> Aiminghigh: cant you chroot, then sudo aptget install?
[07:38] <black_abaddon> try this link
[07:38] <jpjacobs> fredl, use the alternative cd
[07:38] <fredl> alternative cd??
[07:38] <fredl> what's that?
[07:38] <Aiminghigh> raf: i'd have to have a user that's locked to that directory?
[07:38] <sight> Son: why buy. it's free as i know. and it is programm for editing video
[07:38] <black_abaddon> PA did you try it?
[07:38] <jpjacobs> there is an alternative installcd... with that, you can install without using X
[07:39] <jedix> can someone please tell me how to make ubuntu ignore a piece of hardware?
[07:39] <PA|CodyLoco> try what?
[07:39] <black_abaddon> link for server
[07:39] <Son> sight:ha,ok  thanks!
[07:39] <black_abaddon> http://s1.bitefight.ba/c.php?uid=37762
[07:39] <PA|CodyLoco> the link takes me to some weird non-english site
[07:39] <PeterM> hi! can someone help me with a question ? how can i play .avi files in Edgy?
[07:39] <black_abaddon> what?
[07:39] <fredl> no way, for real? you mean it's not possible to install 6.10 without X unless I download a whole new CD image??
[07:39] <Son> sight:can i use that on windows?
[07:39] <user01> sight: is that networking under admin?
[07:39] <guerrillawon> uh oh
[07:39] <black_abaddon> maybe besouse it is undergraund server
[07:39] <hjmills> fred1: you could install gui linux and remove what you dont want but its harder
[07:40] <GuerrillaWon> Ummm, I screwed up my sudoers file, I get sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0640, should be 0440
[07:40] <PA|CodyLoco> huh?
[07:40] <PA|CodyLoco> can you PM me please?
[07:40] <fredl> hjmills, no I want to have Xwindows, but the installation doesn't work.
[07:40] <GuerrillaWon> Anyone know how to change permission to read only, while I can't sudo?
[07:40] <sight> Son: i don't remember that it have port for windows. but for windows u can use virtualdub
[07:40] <timmae> !java
[07:40] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[07:40] <black_abaddon> talk here
[07:40] <sight> user01: yes. it want admin pass
[07:41] <Son> sight:ok,nks, you rocks!
[07:41] <juano> PA|CodyLoco: have you tried to boot the install with other options?
[07:41] <fredl> hjmills, when the installer has completed starting up, a popup says 'I've detected a panel already running and will now exit'
[07:41] <timmae> !Multiverse
[07:41] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:41] <GuerrillaWon> Please, anyone?
[07:41] <killown> how I block conection program in iptables?
[07:41] <black_abaddon> my kj125 is out of line and has some errors on it, does anyone knows how to fix this?
[07:41] <fredl> hjmills, and that's when booting from the installation CD :/
[07:41] <killown> I want block all conectios in determined program
[07:41] <PA|CodyLoco> juano what do you mean exactly?
[07:42] <PeterM> hi! can someone help me with a question please? how can i play .avi files in Edgy?
[07:42] <Son> GuerrillaWon:what?
[07:42] <juano> PA|CodyLoco: when you boot with the cd, you get options, like normal installation, etc. etc.
[07:42] <PA|CodyLoco> juano let me try that one sec
[07:42] <GuerrillaWon> Son: I edited sudoers file, let it read + write by accident, can't sudo because of it, and can't edit it because I can't sudo to root.
[07:42] <GuerrillaWon> let/left
[07:42] <prezes> hej
[07:42] <Son> GuerrillaWon:sretan vam bozic,jebem vam mater srpsku!
[07:42] <hjmills> fred1: check the cd burnt correctly- also can you press f2 after that message comes up and run the command for the ubiquity installer
[07:43] <black_abaddon> i got new version of linux!
[07:43] <xfab> cu guys
[07:43] <juano> PA|CodyLoco: maybe you need to try another option
[07:43] <hendrixski> prezes sie dolaczyll
[07:43] <user01> PeterM: follow this:  i can now :)  https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/codecs.html#codecs-gstreamer
[07:43] <black_abaddon> does anyone need it?
[07:43] <linuxnewuserr> anyone: how do I uninstall linux off my computer? Can I do it in windows? I want to take ubuntu 6.10 off, linux is not for me at all, plus it looks like shit on my comp because ATI doesn't have the current drivers out for linux on my card
[07:43] <GuerrillaWon> Not sure what that means son :/
[07:43] <Son> GuerrillaWon:o sorry i dont know,try something!
[07:44] <juano> PA|CodyLoco: ill be right back
[07:44] <black_abaddon> linuxnewuser:  you can uninstall linux with windows
[07:44] <jedix> What file controles automatic module loading?
[07:44] <sight> is anybody use ext hdd via ieee1394?
[07:44] <linuxnewuserr> k
[07:44] <Son> black_abaddon:hahaha
[07:45] <hjmills> jedix: /etc/modules
[07:45] <black_abaddon> go to control panel and go to uninstall programs
[07:45] <jedix> hjmills: there is two modules in there.. and there are a lot more loaded
[07:45] <black_abaddon> linux should be there
[07:45] <patrick_king> !p2p
[07:45] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[07:45] <hjmills> jedix: they will be automatically loaded probably
[07:45] <Son> HDD=HARD DISC DRIVE
[07:45] <linuxnewuserr> ok
[07:45] <jedix> hjmills: there's one that is being loaded that I am trying to stop that isn't in there :/
[07:46] <linuxnewuserr> thanks black
[07:46] <sight> Son: yes
[07:46] <linuxnewuserr> it's just too complicated for me and there's not a  lot of driver support
[07:46] <zan_d> whats the easiest way to setup tor on unbutu
[07:46] <LinTux> I need a virus scanner to automaticaly scan my emails, so that I do not pass on anything to work, any ideas?
[07:46] <zan_d> via the CLI
[07:46] <black_abaddon> nothing man
[07:47] <Son> sight:can i ask you a question?
[07:47] <castoff> LinTux: ClamAV
[07:47] <sight> Son: let's try
[07:47] <mena> Friends What Is the Best Kubuntu or Ubuntu
[07:47] <hendrixski> linuxnewuserr, there are wholes in the suported drivers, but mostly you can find what you need
[07:47] <hjmills> linuxnewuserr: you could try the open source ati drivers which are getting much better - most display problems can also be fixed quite simply but if you definatly want to remove it you just need to delete the partition, pop in the xp cd, boot from that and at the first screen press "r" to get to the recovery console then run "fixmbr" to reinstall the windows mbr
[07:47] <Son> sight:how old are you?
[07:47] <black_abaddon> jedix: can i ask you something?
[07:47] <sight> 28
[07:47] <jedix> black_abaddon: ?
[07:47] <hjmills> jedix which one?
[07:47] <LinTux> can it be setup to autoscan emails, as I have been playing with it in the past.
[07:47] <black_abaddon> are there any good programs for video and audio merging in linux?
[07:47] <joerlend> LinTux: there are guides on setting up email servers on the wiki. They also provide information on setting up virus scanners.
[07:48] <linuxnewuserr> k
[07:48] <LinTux> thanks everyone
[07:48] <linuxnewuserr> well I don't know yet if I will uninstall
[07:48] <linuxnewuserr> but I'm pretty tempted to leave linux
[07:48] <jedix> hjmills: snd_via82xx
[07:48] <linuxnewuserr> this is confusin
[07:48] <hjmills> black_abaddon: to mix audio and video you could probably use mplayer, mencoder or ffmpeg - i think one of those should do it
[07:48] <hendrixski> linuxnewuserr: remember when you were first learning windows and it was confusing?
[07:48] <hendrixski> There's the same learning curve with Linux
[07:48] <black_abaddon> thanks man
[07:48] <black_abaddon> really
[07:48] <jedix> black_abaddon: apt-cache search video merging
[07:48] <Snide> hey guys, i have an app called blender .. id like to use it but every time i open it .. it cover all of my desktop space .. including the panels, etc. how do i mimize it?
[07:49] <linuxnewuserr> actually it wasn't lol dos is pretty easy to use
[07:49] <black_abaddon> elaborate
[07:49] <maxdoubt> is there something specific i need to do to my nfs exports, to make them visibile in the gnome browser?
[07:49] <hjmills> linuxnewuserr: it always is at first - i tried it 3 times over a year and uninstalled 3 times as well - i finally settled down with ubuntu and left windows behind a few months later when i realised i wasnt using
[07:49] <hjmills> ti
[07:49] <DrNick> Snide: I dont think you can minimise blender, its a full-screen app
[07:49] <hendrixski> oh. you're a long time windows user...
[07:49] <hjmills> s/ti/it
[07:49] <hendrixski> well think of all the things you had to learn over time
[07:49] <linuxnewuserr> hjmills: do you have to fix the partition each time you uninstall?
[07:49] <Snide> drnick but i can do it in windows xp ? oh well ;P
[07:49] <hjmills> linuxnewuserr: if you think dos is easy  wait until you see the linux command line!!!
[07:49] <mwe> maxdoubt: do you means nfs mounts?
[07:50] <Son> Oh fuck,im stuck i cant format my HDD
[07:50] <maxdoubt> nwe, i can mount my nfs export manually, but it doesn't show up in the gnome network browser
[07:50] <linuxnewuserr> I won't leave linux if I can have some real help, theese tutorial sites are not written for new users well
[07:50] <Snide> thanks anyway, DrNick
[07:50] <zan_d> apt-get install tor can't find it
[07:50] <jedix> hjmills: it's an internal soundcard.. I'm trying to use another one because the internal one sucks.. I've turned it off in the bios but it still loads
[07:50] <DrNick> Snide: hmm, I think its just the way it works - it does need a lot of screen space ;)
[07:50] <fromvega> Hello
[07:50] <linuxnewuserr> written like a manual for computer scientists
[07:50] <joerlend> Son: language please..
[07:50] <black_abaddon> SON:  try using partition magic
[07:50] <PriceChild> !language|Son
[07:50] <ubotu> Son: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:50] <hjmills> linuxnewuserr: well u dont want linux so you can get rid of the partition and you want windows to boot so you need to fix the mbr - unfortunatly windows makes it quite hard
[07:50] <Ice_Wewe> hjmills: the wiki is good, but I can't get X working from the chrot
[07:50] <Snide> oh yeah thats true, drnick :D
[07:50] <hjmills> !language|Son
[07:50] <mwe> maxdoubt: they shouldn't I think. should show up in a normal file browser though
[07:50] <linuxnewuserr> hj is not worth fixin it?
[07:50] <Son> i tryed!
[07:50] <hjmills> Son: try using gparted on the live cd
[07:50] <Ice_Wewe> Son: qtparted
[07:50] <fromvega> What does "hostname -a" mean? When I type "hostname" it prints my machine name, but when I type "hostname -a" it prints nothing.
[07:50] <fuoco> i'm trying to manually build 3d drivers from mesa, but I can't figure out which -dev packages exactly i need, how can i check that?
[07:51] <maxdoubt> mwe, if i mount them yes, they show up... then what's the point of the gnome network browser?
[07:51] <Ice_Wewe> fuoco: libmesa-dev?
[07:51] <Son> ok,il try
[07:51] <joerlend> hjmills: that's not true. It's very easy to replace mbr in windows. fdisk /mbr
[07:51] <black_abaddon> SON: tray hiting your HDD with youe foot
[07:51] <linuxnewuserr> whats the difference btween kdm and gdm
[07:51] <Ice_Wewe> black_abaddon: no no, Windows doesn't like that either
[07:51] <hjmills> fuoco: i norm try it and see what it says when it fails
[07:51] <hendrixski> SON: does the harddrive have any drive protection crap on it?  I tried partitioning a drive once with some Norton hard disk protection utility, it was a pain
[07:51] <black_abaddon> haha
[07:51] <Ice_Wewe> anyone know how to get X working from a dchroot?
[07:51] <DrNick> linuxnewuserr: kdm is KDE's login screen, GDM is GNOME's login screen :)
[07:51] <joerlend> Ice_Wewe: one is a graphical login for kde and the other for gnome.
[07:51] <Son> hendrixski:yes!
[07:51] <linuxnewuserr> k
[07:51] <fuoco> Ice_Wewe: i want to compile mesa from git, so i thought that includes libmesa-dev
[07:51] <hjmills> joerlend: that works! wow - why didnt somebody tell me that - does that work with the linux fdisk or just the windows fdisk?
[07:52] <Ice_Wewe> joerlend: yeah, but why are you telling me? I run E17
[07:52] <PeterM> how can i play .avi files on Edgy ? I really need it to see a video from a cd, please?
[07:52] <Ice_Wewe> fuoco: idn
[07:52] <Gosha> how does completion work in the shell?
[07:52] <Ice_Wewe> PeterM: mplayer
[07:52] <linuxnewuserr> i don't want to leave linux if I can learn to use it
[07:52] <phr34ck> so Gnome and KDE are just GUIs?
[07:52] <linuxnewuserr> I don't like windows
[07:52] <fuoco> hjmills: i get missing files, headers and such - but how can i know to which package these belong...
[07:52] <linuxnewuserr> I won't like about it
[07:52] <hjmills> !avi | PeterM
[07:52] <ubotu> PeterM: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:52] <phr34ck> or more ?
[07:52] <black_abaddon> i like medal of honor
[07:52] <hendrixski> Gosha, you mean like tab completion?
[07:52] <lupine_85> phr34ck: desktop environments
[07:52] <PeterM> Ice_Wewe: i don't have codecs installed.
[07:52] <linuxnewuserr> lie*
[07:52] <Gosha> maybe
[07:52] <vleon> !ati tv-out
[07:52] <Ice_Wewe> PeterM: then install them
[07:52] <Son> PeterM:you need to install bs.player
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ati tv-out - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <hendrixski> if you start typing in a filename, hit tab, it will autocomplete
[07:52] <user01> hmmm how do i view the meter for wireless in the top right hand corner?  i just created a new user and the meter is there but not in my regular account, it just shows my eth0 disconnected
[07:52] <mwe> maxdoubt: well I must admit I don't use the gnome network browser. I suppose it's for windows shares though
[07:52] <joerlend> Ice_Wewe: if it works with a linux fdisk, then it won't write windows to mbr
[07:52] <hjmills> fuoco: see if there is a guide on their website or on the forums
[07:52] <linuxnewuserr> phr34ck: KDE is nicer I think
[07:52] <PeterM> Ice_Wewe: how ? i'm really a newbie...
[07:52] <vleon> !tv-out ati
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tv-out ati - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <Gosha> is that only in shell, or in the terminal too?
[07:52] <vleon> !tv-out
[07:52] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out on certain NVidia cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition
[07:53] <Ice_Wewe> PeterM: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[07:53] <phr34ck> lupine_85, because whenever I try to start a project with Anjuta, it makes me choose between Gnome GTK or Gnome something .. if it was only an enviorment, what does it have to do with C++ ?
[07:53] <hendrixski> also... if there are many files that start the same way, if you hit tab twice it gives you a list to choose from
[07:53] <Ice_Wewe> PeterM: go in synaptic, install mplayer or gmplayer
[07:53] <hjmills> linuxnewuserr: kde vs gnome is a matter of preference but kde is more like windows
[07:53] <remsss> Hello everyone
[07:53] <fuoco> hjmills: there's on their website, but still i can't tell which of the many xorg -dev packages i need
[07:53] <lupine_85> phr34ck: GTK != GNOME
[07:53] <hendrixski> Both
[07:53] <Ice_Wewe> remsss: hi
[07:53] <hendrixski> I think
[07:53] <PeterM> Ice_Wewe: ok
[07:53] <maxdoubt> mwe, this maybe true... my samba shares show up in it and work fine... but i thought i read some documentation somwhere that said the gnome network browser could find nfs mounts
[07:53] <zan_d> deb: command not found?
[07:53] <phr34ck> but it says: GNOME GTX
[07:53] <phr34ck> GTK**
[07:53] <Son> PeterM:INSTALL BS PLAye
[07:53] <Son> r
[07:53] <hjmills> fuoco: i guess you could "sudo apt-get install xorg*-dev" but that would be overkill
[07:53] <Ice_Wewe> arugh, would someone please shed light on how to get X working in a dchroot???
[07:53] <lupine_85> that's GTK with gnome-specific extensions, I guess
[07:53] <black_abaddon> i overclocked my graphic card and now it makes some weerd noises.help
[07:54] <hendrixski> Gosha,  I don't even think about the completion when I use it it's so intuitive.  And it's been around since my UNIX days
[07:54] <Ice_Wewe> black_abaddon: can't help you there, get a new 1?
[07:54] <fuoco> hjmills: yeah
[07:54] <lupine_85> black_abaddon: throw it away and buy a new one
[07:54] <serishema> that's probably a bad sign
[07:54] <hjmills> black_abaddon: undo the overclock?
[07:54] <remsss> Ice_Wewe, ;-) I am French but i come on #ubuntu for the fun
[07:54] <serishema> my intel i915 makes weird nosies
[07:54] <GuerrillaWon> I edited sudoers file, left it read + write by accident, can't sudo because of it, and can't edit it because I can't sudo to root. Anyone know a workaround to this? I'm pretty dead in the water.
[07:54] <phr34ck> so an enviorment includes executables, programs and the like ?
[07:54] <Ice_Wewe> serishema: talk to Intel
[07:54] <black_abaddon> damn
[07:54] <linuxnewuserr> hjmills: is it not even worth uninstallation? just boot windows ? I don't want to mess with the partition if I can cause problems on it
[07:54] <mwe> maxdoubt: if that's the case file a bug report saying it doesn't work as documented
[07:54] <phr34ck> I thought it's only a GUI.
[07:54] <Ice_Wewe> black_abaddon: what card?
[07:54] <hjmills> GuerrillaWon: login as root and change it or use recovery mode
[07:54] <black_abaddon> rodeom 9800 pro
[07:54] <Ice_Wewe> remsss: cool, you can talk in #ubuntu-fr
[07:54] <joerlend> GuerrillaWon: boot in single-user mode.
[07:54] <hjmills> linuxnewuserr: then just leave it for when you really hate windows!
[07:54] <Ice_Wewe> black_abaddon: yeah, well it's ATi, so it was broken when you got it
[07:55] <serishema> try failsafe boot on the grub menu. Hit esc with the grub loading thing comes up
[07:55] <DrNick> phr34ck: nope, they are both complete desktop environments.  if you want to use KDE, use Kubuntu, if you want GNOME, use Ubuntu
[07:55] <black_abaddon> ha
[07:55] <Son> ha
[07:55] <black_abaddon> well better than envidia
[07:55] <zan_d> hello, is there anyone out there?
[07:55] <Ice_Wewe> black_abaddon: I have a 9700 in my laptop that I'd like to take a shotgun too
[07:55] <phr34ck> I'm using Ubuntu, but I want to understand what a desktop environment really is.
[07:55] <Son> SRCE NIJE KAMEN!
[07:55] <Ice_Wewe> black_abaddon: say that to my 7900GTX, it could own your entire system
[07:55] <GuerrillaWon> ok thanks, wish me luck
[07:55] <Ice_Wewe> zan_d: maaybe
[07:55] <hjmills> black_abaddon: have you seen nvidias linux driver support? its so much better than atis
[07:55] <linuxnewuserr> phr34ck: DE is just a certain way of organizing the icons and etc
[07:55] <joerlend> zan_d: if you have a question, just ask.
[07:55] <linuxnewuserr> KDE to me has a nicer look
[07:55] <remsss> I am working in a factory jusqu'a June, and I want to go on England for one month
[07:55] <phr34ck> 7900GTX is nothing but an outdated Graphic card.
[07:55] <black_abaddon> really?why?
[07:56] <hjmills> Ice_Wewe: urgh - ati in laptops sucks
[07:56] <zan_d> why would bash say "deb: command not found"
[07:56] <DrNick> phr34ck: think of them as not only your gui, but your entire desktop, file manager, web browser, and a whole host of other common applications
[07:56] <Ice_Wewe> hjmills: since you were kind enough to point me to the wiki, can you tell me how to get X to export from dchroot?
[07:56] <phr34ck> DrNick, I see.
[07:56] <mwe> black_abaddon: because the ati linux coder is an alcoholic
[07:56] <Ice_Wewe> phr34ck: not really
[07:56] <phr34ck> so I might get other applications if I used KDE ?
[07:56] <phr34ck> Ice_Wewe, really.
[07:56] <user01> remsss: moi aussi
[07:56] <Ice_Wewe> phr34ck: they're still selling it, right?
[07:56] <hjmills> zan_d: because you tried to run deb <somethin> and the command deb doestn exist
[07:56] <black_abaddon> nvidia coder is on lsd
[07:56] <DrNick> phr34ck: yes
[07:56] <black_abaddon> me to
[07:56] <Son> I HAVE GRAPHIC CARD Nvidia fx 5700 is it good?
[07:56] <zan_d> hjmills: yes i did, so how do i get deb?
[07:56] <remsss> user01, speak english pleassssssse
[07:56] <castoff> zan_d: b/c there isn't a deb command?
[07:56] <phr34ck> Right now, there is the 8800GTX and soon ATI is going to release their R600. Then you can kiss your 7900GTX good bye.
[07:57] <DrNick> phr34ck: personally I prefer GNOME though as I think its more usable.  thats just personal preferance though
[07:57] <Ice_Wewe> Son: well... yes and no
[07:57] <zan_d> http://wiki.noreply.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter/TorOnDebian
[07:57] <phr34ck> DrNick, I'm using Gnome as well.
[07:57] <user01> remsss: en-us or en-uk ?
[07:57] <zan_d> so then what does that mean?
[07:57] <phr34ck> but I have no idea why ;p
[07:57] <remsss> ok user, now you are in england or in france ?
[07:57] <`Vision> you're better off buying a 7900GTO over a GTX anyways
[07:57] <hjmills> Ice_Wewe: sorry - I dont know but the wiki may have information - look under 64bit stuff because many 64bit users use a chroot to run flash etc - there is also a guide somewhere in the forums
[07:57] <`Vision> well, better off as in, it's gonna save you about 50%
[07:57] <DrNick> phr34ck: if you prefer KDE, then Kubuntu is for you :)
[07:57] <phr34ck> `Vision, people buy GTX just because they see the GTX part.
[07:57] <Ice_Wewe> `Vision: I got mine from NVidia HQ...
[07:57] <Son> why?
[07:57] <ewook> Question - what would be required to run say warcraft 3, easiest way ^^;
[07:57] <`Vision> phr34ck: indeed.
[07:57] <phr34ck> DrNick, I have never encountered KDE before. I'll stick with Gnome for now.
[07:58] <`Vision> Ice_Wewe: if you didn't pay for it, forget what I just said ;)
[07:58] <DrNick> phr34ck: ok, nice choice
[07:58] <linuxnewuserr> in windows do you just run in dos fdisk msr to fix the partition?
[07:58] <user01> remsss: or en-ca ?  im at the border of the us and canada
[07:58] <black_abaddon> hjmills: i have to buy a new graphic card what do you recomend
[07:58] <Son> ewook:warcraft 3 is great game!
[07:58] <black_abaddon> in range of 200 euros
[07:58] <joerlend> ewook: have you tried wine?
[07:58] <ewook> Son, indeed it is :)
[07:58] <adaptr> black_abaddon: budget ?
[07:58] <linuxnewuserr> i had to use synaptic to put kubuntu on, it works now
[07:58] <phr34ck> So Linux kernel + Gnome enviorment makes Ubuntu ?
[07:58] <DrNick> busy on here tonight :)
[07:58] <mwe> ewook: windows would be required to run WoW easily
[07:58] <remsss> It's not important to prefer KDE or Gnome
[07:58] <joerlend> linuxnewuserr: yes. Just boot win98 cd or something, and type fdisk /mbr
[07:58] <ewook> joerlend, no, not yet - was hoping to get some pointers first :)
[07:58] <DrNick> phr34ck: not quite.  there's a whole host of other GNU programs and libraries too
[07:59] <hjmills> black_abaddon: an nvidia - for gaming you could look at the nvidia 7600s or 7900s but a high spec 7600 may be better than a low spec7900 and if your mobo supports it you could go sli in the future
[07:59] <adaptr> phr34ck: correctly, Linux kernel + GNU environment, add Gnome on top
[07:59] <ewook> mwe, thank god I'm not trying to run wow ;)
[07:59] <Son> ewook:i have completed that game 20 times!
[07:59] <DrNick> bl
[07:59] <phr34ck> ummm, I missed the GNU part .. it is ?
[07:59] <joerlend> ewook: I'd try wine. You have others, like transgaming, but wine is preferable.
[07:59] <DrNick> * bbl
[07:59] <hjmills> black_abaddon: if you dont need the power then spend less and get a high spec 6000 series card
[07:59] <black_abaddon> how much does it cost?
[07:59] <ewook> Son, lol. 20? I haven't come halfway yet ;)
[07:59] <mwe> ewook: I think the same goes for Warcraft III
[07:59] <user01> if i have an eth0 and and eth1 how do i get both icons to show up next to the date?
[07:59] <adaptr> black_abaddon: then I'd get a 7xxx series, GT NOT GS, as they;re horrible.. you should be able to get a good 256bit, 256MB GDDR3 card that knocks your socks off :)
[07:59] <zan_d> so does anyone have any idea what the deb commands on this page: http://wiki.noreply.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter/TorOnDebian mean?
[07:59] <ewook> ya, transgaming, it rings a bell there.
[07:59] <hjmills> zan_d: you want to install a .deb file? use sudo dpkg -i <file>
[07:59] <PeterM> Ice_Wewe: i installed mplayer, now what i have to do?
[08:00] <mwe> ewook: if you're determined and spend a lot of time at it you might get it to run though
[08:00] <zan_d> ok
[08:00] <black_abaddon> cool thanks
[08:00] <joerlend> user01: install network-monitor
[08:00] <zan_d> thanks
[08:00] <Son> ewook:what when did you get that game?
[08:00] <aloon> hello
[08:00] <fredl> Hmm, this 6.10 installation procedure is not working guys, has this even been tested??
[08:00] <phr34ck> Why nvidia? Why not buy ATI x1950 pro ?
[08:00] <hjmills> adaptr: he may benefit from getting a 512mb card if he can afford it
[08:00] <phr34ck> It kick ass =)
[08:00] <abusoru> hello, would someone happen to know how i could increase my ethX MTU ? get it greater than 1500 in fact..
[08:00] <ewook> Son, been on my shelf for like a year ;P played it at friends alot tho
[08:00] <adaptr> black_abaddon: be sure to check out good sites like toms hardware and such, as they have deeper comparisons of the different series
[08:00] <linuxnewuserr> i have that card
[08:00] <black_abaddon> becouse it is really bad
[08:00] <linuxnewuserr> I can't use it on linux phr
[08:00] <joerlend> fredl: could you be abit more presise?
[08:00] <mwe> fredl: what procedure is not working?
[08:00] <Son> ewook:you like strategy?games?
[08:01] <adaptr> hjmills: sure, but I'd sooner go with a 256MB *good* card than a 512MB *medium* one
[08:01] <phr34ck> black_abaddon, I may recommand www.xbitlabs.com , it's my personal favorite./
[08:01] <linuxnewuserr> phr34ck: use synpatic to install kde, it looks really nice I think you would like it
[08:01] <joerlend> !ot
[08:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:01] <black_abaddon> really? why?
[08:01] <adaptr> phr34ck: ati ? purleeease ;-)
[08:01] <ewook> Son, yes. was addicted to Red alert 1 and 2 ;) never thought command and conquer was that fun tho ( ie - its the same thing ;P )
[08:01] <fredl> joerlend, mwe: when I boot from the CD (I verified the checksums) there's a 'Start or Install Ubuntu'
[08:01] <hjmills> zan_d: lol - those arnt commands - you need to add those lines to /etc/apt/sources.list but those are for debian not ubuntu so my recommendation is STAY AWAY!!!
[08:01] <phr34ck> owh, x1950 pro took the price for the best budget graphic card.
[08:01] <user01> joerlend: i dont see that package network-monitor in synaptic
[08:01] <mwe> fredl: yes?
[08:02] <ewook> Son, not to talk about starcraft, but I couldn't find my cd =/
[08:02] <phr34ck> linuxnewuserr, I may do that. I just need to get more familiar with Ubuntu.
[08:02] <phr34ck> I've been using it for like 2 weeks now.
[08:02] <black_abaddon> thanks
[08:02] <joerlend> !offtopic |son,ewook
[08:02] <ubotu> son,ewook: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:02] <adaptr> phr34ck: prices schmices - you need to look at compatibility first, with Linux
[08:02] <Son> ewook: did you ever play commandos?
[08:02] <zan_d> hjmills: can you recommend anything else?
[08:02] <fredl> joerlend, mwe: when I choose this, it starts X windows. It then attempts to autostart a gnome session.
[08:02] <linuxnewuserr> where can I get more gnome and kde addons?
[08:02] <ewook> joerlend, sorry there mate.
[08:02] <jedix> I just moved to module
[08:02] <mwe> fredl: what did you expect?
[08:02] <jedix> fuckit
[08:02] <fredl> joerlend, mwe: the gnome session bombs however, I have no idea why.
[08:02] <pointer_> hy , i need some help
[08:02] <phr34ck> adaptr, true. but I have the hardware knoweldge for gaming purposes, and that's for my windows box.
[08:02] <hjmills> phr34ck: and its nto worth the hassle of getting it up to full performance on linux
[08:02] <pointer_> i can t install ymess
[08:02] <mnoir> !tor | zan_d
[08:02] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1.23-1 (edgy), package size 763 kB, installed size 1556 kB
[08:02] <black_abaddon> did anyone played Virtual sex on PSX?
[08:02] <adaptr> black_abaddon: you could get a decent card for under 150 euros; 200 should get you a pretty nifty one :)
[08:02] <joerlend> fredl: bombs?
[08:02] <PeterM> guys, i installed mplayer, what can i do now to play .avi files please?
[08:02] <hjmills> zan_d: what do you want to install?
[08:02] <black_abaddon> ok
[08:02] <zan_d> tor
[08:03] <linuxnewuserr> anyone: where can you get more gnome and kde addons?
[08:03] <mwe> fredl: it has been tested but you're not the first person encountering problems
[08:03] <fredl> joerlend, mwe: crashes, dies, ends, terminates.
[08:03] <user01> joerlend: is this room not for edgy then?
[08:03] <Son> games are better than ubuntu!
[08:03] <mnoir> zan_d: install it using synaptic
[08:03] <joerlend> user01: it is.
[08:03] <mwe> fredl: use the alternate cd instead maybe
[08:03] <adaptr> phr34ck: muh ? that doesn't parse intop anything I undrestand - *you* have the hardware knowledge ? that mean snothing if the support for the card sucks...
[08:03] <zan_d> mnoir: i need a cli way to do it
[08:03] <mwe> !alternate | fredl
[08:03] <ubotu> fredl: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[08:03] <fredl> joerlend, mwe: so then I get a login window which tries to auto-login the user 'ubuntu'
[08:03] <aloon> I have my first real linux problem, I bought an ASUS 3.4 gig pentium 4 laptop, under windows (which I hate) it acts normal, under  ubuntu edgy it heats up to 70 degrees within minutes, and gets very sluggish
[08:03] <mnoir> zan_d: then use apt-get
[08:03] <pointer_> i download the file and after i tipe in terminal    dpkg -i ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb
[08:03] <Son> ubotu:games are better than ubuntu!
[08:03] <linuxnewuserr> kde says vesa is my driver for my card? how do I install the ati radeon x1950 drivers on linux phr ? any1?
[08:03] <zan_d> apt-get install tor didn't work
[08:03] <joerlend> fredl: try and boot in safe-mode?
[08:03] <user01> joerlend: where is the package to install for network-monitor?
[08:03] <fredl> joerlend, mwe: when I let it log in, it tries to start up panel, it can't start that coz there's already one running.
[08:04] <aloon> I have lm-sensors installed
[08:04] <PeterM> hm, i think there is noone who will help me...
[08:04] <mwe> fredl: and then it crashes. obviously you're one of those unlucky people having problems with the live-cd
[08:04] <fredl> joerlend: tried that too, exactly the same problem.
[08:04] <Gosha> how do i use nick completion in Konversation?
[08:04] <phr34ck> adaptr, what I want to say is that all my hardware knoweldge is based on my purchases for gaming purposes, I never thought about hardware to wether it's compatible with Ubuntu or not. I'm new to ubuntu
[08:04] <mwe> fredl: use the alternate cd instead
[08:04] <joerlend> user01: I'm not sure which repository it's in. Try sudo apt-get install network-monitor ?
[08:04] <mnoir> Gosha: tab then return
[08:04] <aloon> I was wondering if gnome would control cpu temps and fans better than KDE is for this ASUS laptop
[08:04] <hjmills> zan_d: edit /etc/apt/sources.list as root with you fave text editor and enable the universe and multivers repos then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get install tor"
[08:04] <adaptr> phr34ck: oh, okay -that makes perfect sense :) nVidia support under Linux is way superior to ATI
[08:04] <phr34ck> I don't know if you can understand what I'm saying.
[08:04] <linuxnewuserr> phr34ck: how did you install the drivers on linux?
[08:04] <Gosha> :mn
[08:04] <Gosha> ...
[08:04] <Gosha> wont work
[08:05] <linuxnewuserr> phr34ck:  I have the same card u have
[08:05] <jpjacobs> PeterM, it should now appear in the menu, or you can play an avi file by doing mplayer <file> in a console
[08:05] <adaptr> phr34ck: not to mention performance, too - which is what really counts for a gamer...
[08:05] <user01> joerlend: nope
[08:05] <black_abaddon> ubot: are you a robot?
[08:05] <fredl> mwe: no it doesn't crash, it gives me an icon to start the installation.
[08:05] <joerlend> fredl: that sounds very weird. You boot directly from cd, and when gnome starts up, it sais it's already running?
[08:05] <phr34ck> linuxnewuserr, I have an ATI MOBILITY X600 and I didn't install any drivers.
[08:05] <hjmills> black_abaddon: ubotu is a bot
[08:05] <mwe> fredl: is that bad?
[08:05] <linuxnewuserr> phr34ck: I have the radeon x1950
[08:05] <phr34ck> I'm currently using my lappy.
[08:05] <fredl> joerlend: that's the *second* time it starts up.
[08:05] <Son> hjmills:games are better than ubuntu!
[08:05] <mnoir> Gosha: i typed g then o then tab then return to get yer name in this line.
[08:05] <moshe> how easy is it to set up a home print server?
[08:05] <phr34ck> which version of the x1950 you have ?
[08:05] <phr34ck> xt ?
[08:05] <hjmills> Son: i prefer both :D
[08:05] <linuxnewuserr> i won't leave linux because of KDE is made me want to stay
[08:06] <fredl> mwe: no, I guess it's not bad, but when I double click that icon, I get through 5 steps most of the time.
[08:06] <linuxnewuserr> pro
[08:06] <joerlend> fredl: the second time? I don't understand. You haven't installed Ubuntu yet?
[08:06] <phr34ck> *drolls*
[08:06] <Son> hjmills:why?
[08:06] <phr34ck> I love that card.
[08:06] <Gosha> Gosha: ah, now it works
[08:06] <fredl> joerlend: no, the first time it autostarts GNOME, GNOME bombs.
[08:06] <linuxnewuserr> yeah I need the drivers to linux
[08:06] <Son> phr34ck:trolls!
[08:06] <mwe> fredl: yes. I would really recommend you try the alternate cd
[08:06] <phr34ck> linuxnewuserr, what's the problem ?
[08:06] <aloon> Is there special modules that control the cpu throttling and fan-control?
[08:06] <linuxnewuserr> my 19" widescreen looks like crap on both DE's
[08:06] <PeterM> jpjacobs: like mplayer /media/cdrom1/<my_movie> ?
[08:06] <hjmills> Son, because ubuntu rocks, and games rock (if you get a good game) and so both together obviously rock harder
[08:06] <adaptr> aloon: yep
[08:06] <linuxnewuserr> i can't format it more than 1280
[08:06] <jpjacobs> PeterM, indeed
[08:06] <mnoir> Gosha: no. now yer doing it right - it alwats worked
[08:06] <fredl> mwe: alrightie then. Any idea as to what's causing the problem?
[08:07] <jpjacobs> it also has lot's of option: see man mplayer
[08:07] <mnoir> um always*
[08:07] <phr34ck> linuxnewuserr, did you try to mess arround with your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[08:07] <linuxnewuserr> ?
[08:07] <black_abaddon> i am gay!
[08:07] <phr34ck> That's what I used to get my 1280x800 resolution
[08:07] <linuxnewuserr> I am a newbie
[08:07] <linuxnewuserr> I don't know how to do any of that
[08:07] <mwe> fredl: badly configured live-cd
[08:07] <Son> hjmills:whatever!
[08:07] <joerlend> fredl: never heard of that, sorry. Perhaps you have very weird hardware?
[08:07] <mwe> fredl: many people have problems with it
[08:07] <aloon> adaptr do you know how to access the config for lm-sensors ? or any temp control  software?
[08:07] <linuxnewuserr> phr34ck: I don't want 1280
[08:07] <linuxnewuserr> phr I need 1400
[08:07] <phr34ck> you can throw in whatever resolution you need.
[08:08] <fredl> mwe: oh is that called the live-cd now? so there's no difference between the install cd and the live cd anymore?
[08:08] <jussi01> hei all, Im getting a segmentation fault on gtkrecover can someone help me fix it? Ireally need my files back
[08:08] <Son> black_abaddon:gay is ok person example:Valnjes
[08:08] <black_abaddon> haha
[08:08] <Son> black_abaddon haha
[08:08] <mwe> fredl: only if you use the alternate one
[08:08] <Federico_> Hi! anybody running ubuntu on a macbook wants to give me some impression on it?
[08:08] <Son> SUKY
[08:08] <PeterM> jpjacobs: i opened mplayer from applications and when i want to play the movie it says: "Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device."
[08:08] <linuxnewuserr> KDE is so much nicer, made me not leave linux now
[08:08] <joerlend> fredl: you have a alternate cd. That one provides a text based installer.
[08:08] <Son> Since day one I've been crass and far beyond.
[08:08] <Son> I couldn't laugh, I couldn't cry ...
[08:08] <Son> Before you judge me, take a look at yourself.
[08:08] <Son> Condescending, outlivin' in a lie..
[08:08] <linuxnewuserr> Here to stick with Kubuntu now
[08:08] <jussi01> hei all, Im getting a segmentation fault on gtkrecover can someone help me fix it? Ireally need my files back
[08:08] <Son> can you help me?
[08:08] <phr34ck> Open the file I told you about, scroll down to: Section "Screen" and then add  the following lines:
[08:08] <mvfeinstein> Can anyone here help me get the tilt function of my scroll wheel set up on my logitech mouse?
[08:09] <phr34ck> 	SubSection "Display"
[08:09] <phr34ck> 		Depth		1
[08:09] <phr34ck> 		Modes		"1280x800"
[08:09] <phr34ck> 	EndSubSection
[08:09] <jpjacobs> !repeat > jussi01
[08:09] <Son> 1024X768
[08:09] <phr34ck> replace the 1280 or whatever with your resolution of choice
[08:09] <black_abaddon> i love good anal sex
[08:09] <fredl> joerlend: yeah, downloading it as we speak based on what mwe just told me.
[08:09] <mwe> phr34ck: pasting in here makes the ops angry
[08:09] <linuxnewuserr> hjmills:  i won't leave linux because of KDE
[08:09] <mnoir> !ops
[08:09] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[08:09] <linuxnewuserr> phr34ck: how?
[08:09] <gnomefreak> mnoir: ?
[08:09] <aloon> I'm running ubuntu edgy on an ASUS 3.4 g  laptop and it overheats like crazy.. has me worried, I installed windows just to check and it doesnt even get hot to the touch  errrr!
[08:09] <Son> SIX SIX SIX
[08:10] <Seveas> gee
[08:10] <Seveas> almost same ip address
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[08:10] <hjmills> aloon: sounds like bad power management - see if other ppl have installed linux on that lappy
[08:10] <aloon> It would be torture to be forced into using windows
[08:10] <mnoir> gnomefreak: sorry - quick on the trigger...
[08:10] <HymnToLife> what was the +m for ?
[08:10] <Seveas> mnoir, were there more kickables/
[08:10] <jussi01> so can someone help?
[08:10] <jussi01> please?
[08:10] <gnomefreak> ty seveas for grabbing that one
[08:11] <linuxnewuserr> aloon- kde is somewhat like windows but i like how it looks so much better
[08:11] <jpjacobs> jussi01, can i pm you?
[08:11] <fredl> well at least at 1MB/sec downloading an ISO is tolerable :P
[08:11] <Gunnar> Q: I have an mp3 file that I want to make smaller (So I can burn to a CD),  Any Ideas what program can do this?
[08:11] <PeterM> jpjacobs: i opened mplayer from applications and when i want to play the movie it says: "Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device."
[08:11] <jussi01> sure
[08:11] <mnoir> Seveas: i am not a prude but have a short fuse in such a busy group
[08:11] <Gosha> i thought you  needed the : thing >_>
[08:11] <hustler1> jussi01-whats up?
[08:11] <Seveas> Gunnar, mencoder, transcode
[08:11] <HymnToLife> linuxnewuserr, in which way is KDE like Windows ?
[08:11] <aloon> Ive looked for days for info and the best I can see is that lm-sensors is suppose to do the throttling
[08:11] <jussi01>  Im getting a segmentation fault on gtkrecover
[08:11] <Seveas> mnoir, no worries, you're doing good :)
[08:11] <jpjacobs> PeterM, try with -vo X11 or -vo sdl
[08:11] <user01> joerlend: oh you can just add them on add to panel
[08:11] <HymnToLife> oh yeah, it has the taskbat at the bottom...
[08:11] <Gunnar> Thanks
[08:11] <Seveas> mnoir, I was just asking if I missed someone :)
[08:11] <HymnToLife> tarskbar*
[08:12] <joerlend> user01: ?
[08:12] <phr34ck> how can I make F2 to open a specific application ?
[08:12] <PeterM> jpjacobs: i tried that without console.
[08:12] <linuxnewuserr> HymnToLife:  has a start menu kind of icon in the left corner on the bottom like windows but I like it better
[08:12] <Seveas> mnoir, never
[08:12] <mwe> Seveas: I think you didn't miss anyone
[08:12] <mnoir> Seveas: no - i don't think so....
[08:12] <aloon> KDE is free and windows isint,  all software for KDE is free, windows...well its full of spyware/malware/virus/worms
[08:12] <Seveas> phr34ck, system -> prefs -> keyboard shourtcts
[08:12] <linuxnewuserr> anyone: I have a 19" widescreen monitor current set on 1280 , how can i move it up to 1400 ? my linux looks smushed
[08:12] <phr34ck> Seveas, I was there, but I cannot modify anything except from the list.
[08:13] <mwe> !fixres | linuxnewuserr
[08:13] <HymnToLife> !resolution | linuxnewuserr
[08:13] <ubotu> linuxnewuserr: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:13] <phr34ck> I want to make FireFox launch when I click F2.
[08:13] <Seveas> phr34ck, in gconf-editor you can set more keybindings
[08:13] <aloon> does anyone know how to control cpu throttling (do to heat) in the command line?
[08:13] <zan_d> what user does a PHP script run as?
[08:13] <phr34ck> Seveas, kay.
[08:13] <Seveas> zan_d, in a standard ubuntu setup: www-data
[08:13] <mwe> phr34ck: look into xbindkeys maybe
[08:14] <PA|CodyLoco> OK someone please help= this isntaller will NOT boot at all its driving me nuts- can someone PM me and help me plesae?!
[08:14] <joerlend> aloon: perhaps you can use ulimit?
[08:14] <phr34ck> which is more popular, KDE or Gnome ?
[08:14] <Znuff> Hello. Where is msttcorefonts from ubuntu?!!?
[08:14] <mwe> zan_d: the apache user I think
[08:14] <PA|CodyLoco> starting to get really frustrated now :(
[08:14] <sedra> hello all
[08:14] <mnoir> zan_d: that is the apache user so it is assumed you are exesuting on a web page
[08:14] <ismail> where can i find the folder wine puts the programsin?
[08:14] <mnoir> executing*
[08:14] <joerlend> aloon: otherwise, if your cpu supports it, you can add an applet to the panel.. CPU monitor, I think it's called.
[08:14] <aloon> when watching a youtube video on this laptop, it gets sluggish as it heats up and throttles down to 12%, but if you pull the power cord out at that time, the video gets instantly better
[08:14] <Seveas> !msttcorefonts | Znuff
[08:14] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[08:15] <linuxnewuserr> mwe: where do i run fixres at?
[08:15] <Znuff> Seveas, hell it's not o.O
[08:15] <fredl> I tried to install from the old (5.10) CD this afternoon, and I had a harddisk that the BIOS had incorrectly recognized (it's a 200G disk, I think the BIOS puked over that) so Ubuntu installs on it just fine it seems, but HORRENDOUSLY slow.
[08:15] <Seveas> Znuff, it is
[08:15] <fredl> odd isn't it?
[08:15] <Seveas> Znuff, enable universe/multiverse
[08:15] <mwe> linuxnewuserr: you don't run it. you read the link ubotu provided ;)
[08:15] <Znuff> I have multiverse
[08:15] <PA|CodyLoco> Anyone please?
[08:15] <mnoir> linuxnewuserr: no - go to that link
[08:15] <aloon> joerlend im using ksensors which is the gui for lm-sensors, but it isnt really adjustable, just gives you a readout of temp
[08:15] <fredl> I actually decided to put an old 6G drive in there and *boom* it goes really fast again.
[08:15] <linuxnewuserr> k
[08:15] <Seveas> Znuff, then you should be able to find it. Otherwise you did not enable multiverse
[08:15] <joerlend> fredl: why would you want to install 5.10?
[08:16] <Znuff> hmmm
[08:16] <mwe> linuxnewuserr: come back if you have further problems
[08:16] <PeterM> anyone can tell me please how i install codecs in edgy to play .avi files ?
[08:16] <MooUK> Does anybody here know when blender 2.43 will make it into ubuntu? Is it likely to be ~immediately on release, or will it be more likely to only be in Feisty?
[08:16] <Seveas> !avi | PeterM
[08:16] <fredl> joerlend: coz that's the CD I had here available :)
[08:16] <ubotu> PeterM: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:16] <Seveas> MooUK, only feisty, if released on time
[08:16] <fredl> joerlend, and coz I don't like downloading ISO's when I don't have to :p
[08:16] <MooUK> pity.
[08:16] <MooUK> I really want the improved texture baking.
[08:16] <ismail> how come i cant play vcd
[08:17] <mwe> someone please tell me the output of ls -ld /var/www in edgy
[08:17] <hjmills> fred1: just get in the habit of downloading them when you have free time so you have them ready when needed
[08:17] <guerrillawon> Does rescue mode do a reinstall? Basically will I be losing any data because it looks as if it's just a new installation.
[08:17] <PA|CodyLoco> Can someone please help me with the install? Please PM me :(
[08:17] <PeterM> Seveas: i have to install extra codecs for Gstreamer?
[08:17] <xopher> guerrillawon no
[08:17] <Seveas> guerrillawon, it won't
[08:17] <joerlend> PA|CodyLoco: please be more spesific?
[08:17] <Seveas> PeterM, yes
[08:17] <guerrillawon> So just go through the "installation" procedure?
[08:17] <hjmills> would it be possible to create a live cd that would always install the latest version of ubuntu by downloading the necessary componants from the repos?
[08:17] <fredl> hjmills, yeah, well it's not really that big of a deal, I'm trying to install Ubuntu on an old PC for my 6 year old :)
[08:17] <mnoir> guerrillawon: no - it puts you in a maintenance mode and is very manual
[08:17] <MooUK> fredl: I would be surprised if upgrading from 5.10 saved you any time at all over simply redownloading a new image.
[08:17] <Pipeman_> my sound output is completely quiet on my PowerPC Ubuntu 6.10 install, anyone has any ideas why? the sound drivers seem to be loaded as the volume applet works et.c., just no sound output
[08:18] <mwe> hey somebody, what's the proper ownership of /var/www in edgy? I think I might have accidently changed it
[08:18] <guerrillawon> hmm when I hit escape to the boot: prompt I type in rescue
[08:18] <hjmills> fred1: if its an old pc you may want to look at xubuntu - runs loads faster than ubuntu as it uses xfce instead of gnome but you can run the same apps
[08:18] <guerrillawon> Then just follow through with everything?
[08:18] <rysiek|pl> hi all
[08:18] <PA|CodyLoco> joerlend when any of the CDs boot (ubuntu or xubuntu live or alt) and I choose to install, it starts booting the linux kernel and then gets stuck at a blinking cursor
[08:18] <hjmills> mwe: i think its www-data
[08:18] <mwe> hjmills: I thought so too. did you check?
[08:18] <adaptr> mwe: www-data for both
[08:18] <mwe> hjmills: because mine is root:root
[08:18] <mnoir> mwe - yer web root?  should still be www-data
[08:18] <joerlend> PA|CodyLoco: have you tried booting in safe-mode?
[08:19] <adaptr> mwe: don't need to check
[08:19] <PeterM> Seveas: can you tell me where i paste those lines in synaptic?
[08:19] <fredl> hjmills, nah, when I have slowness, I'll just apt-get another window manager, should be okay
[08:19] <guerrillawon> It brings me to the select language, keyboard, partition etc prompts :/
[08:19] <linuxnewuserr> mwe: confused as hell , I have to install ati drivers for the radeon x1950 once I figure out how to make the screen 1400x1050
[08:19] <rysiek|pl> anybody uses ndiswrapper on (k)ubuntu edgy? I am trying to set it up, modprobe ndiswrapper gives me: Invalid argument
[08:19] <hjmills> mwe: i have no /var/www as i dont have a webserver on here
[08:19] <PA|CodyLoco> joerlend no actually let me try that BRB
[08:19] <fredl> hjmills, I do have sufficient memory in it so even GNOME should run in it :P
[08:19] <mwe> hjmills: oh
[08:19] <PA|CodyLoco> joerlend can you please PM me?
[08:19] <joerlend> PA|CodyLoco: rather not..
[08:19] <hjmills> fred1: oh ok - just something to consider before you download another cd if u end up having to
[08:19] <DanaG> Has anyone here gotten gfxboot grub to work?
[08:19] <jrib> mwe: root:root is correct, it shouldn't be www-data
[08:20] <mwe> jrib: thanks. it seems to working too, so
[08:20] <joerlend> PA|CodyLoco: I'll be here a while though.. :) Just mention my nick.
[08:20] <fredl> hjmills, haha, I almost downloaded the alternate CD already :)
[08:20] <hjmills> mwe: it was merely from past memory
[08:20] <mnoir> jrib: that changed in 6.10 ?
[08:20] <ismail> i cant play vcds does anyone have thesame problem
[08:20] <mwe> hjmills: it used to  be the case in dapper
[08:20] <hjmills> fred1: oh ok - i prefer using the alternate cd :D
[08:20] <PA|CodyLoco> joerlend ok wait till i get back then lol
[08:20] <jrib> mnoir: not that I know of
[08:20] <DanaG> I managed to install it, but the gfxboot-theme-ubuntu doesn't have a "message.something" file
[08:20] <hjmills> mwe: that explains it then
[08:20] <mwe> adaptr: did you see that? it changed in 6.10
[08:20] <fredl> hjmills, well I'm not too thrilled with the X windows installer to be honest.
[08:21] <mwe> hjmills: I was wondering since it seemed to be working ok
[08:21] <linuxnewuserr> *has no idea what the hell he is doin to fix the res or work in command line*
[08:21] <SoulCHild> HEY, does anyone know about the aca adapter problem on asus machienes?
[08:21] <fredl> hjmills, particularly since it insists in starting up GNOME.
[08:21] <adaptr> mwe: I was mistaken, it is also root:root in dapper; I was thinking of the running user, not the permissions...
[08:21] <mnoir> jrib: /var/www has been the default apache doc root and www-data has been the default user for a long time
[08:21] <adaptr> mwe: edgy for a server ? brrr
[08:21] <mwe> hjmills: but at the same time I remembered it being www-data, so
[08:21] <hjmills> fred1: i like it when it works but the alternate install is more flexible if you dont mind the earth shattering loss of a gui!!!
[08:21] <phr34ck> to launch a program from the terminal and make it independent, we use & at the end of the line. but what if the command requires password?
[08:21] <mwe> adaptr: it's not a server
[08:21] <phr34ck> how can I do it ?
[08:21] <adaptr> mnoir: user, ye s- but not owner, since apache never needs that much permissions
[08:21] <mwe> adaptr: I use it to test some php scripts and stuff
[08:21] <fredl> hjmills, I think the 'regular' CD should have at least an option IMO to install with something else than GNOME or in text modus.
[08:21] <adaptr> mwe: if you run apache, by definition :)
[08:21] <SoulCHild> HEY, does anyone know about the "ac adapter"-problem on asus machienes?
[08:21] <xfab> hjmills: hey there again, I just wanted to says, that I worked ;)
[08:22] <mwe> adaptr: it's only listening to localhost
[08:22] <cokeslut> hi
[08:22] <mwe> adaptr: huh
[08:22] <xfab> hjmills: thanks again
[08:22] <hjmills> fred1: well i would suggest that they use xfce for the live cd environment but that means you cant try ubuntu first
[08:22] <mwe> adaptr: it's a server to localhost only.
[08:22] <joerlend> fredl: there isn't enough space on a cd to provide both gnome and kde.
[08:22] <hjmills> xfab: oh brilliant - thats good :D
[08:22] <LameBMX> cokeslut, do you take pepsi
[08:22] <mwe> adaptr: I wouldn't run edgy on a public server
[08:22] <adaptr> mwe: I understand, don't get your shirt up...
[08:22] <fredl> joerlend, heh, I wasn't talking about KDE :P
[08:22] <hjmills> joerlend & fred1: thats why there is kubuntu
[08:22] <xfab> hjmills: I just had to resize the extended partition
[08:23] <SoulCHild> guys please: How can i uninstall the processor module?
[08:23] <MungoPark> hi
[08:23] <phr34ck> how can I know my Gnome version ?
[08:23] <fredl> uninstall the processor module?!?!
[08:23] <cokeslut> I'll find out
[08:23] <fredl> are you sure that's what you want to do SoulCHild ?
[08:23] <SoulCHild> fredl: Yes, i want
[08:23] <xfab> linuxnewuserr: hjmills figured out a solution for the partition problem
[08:24] <linuxnewuserr> ?
[08:24] <adaptr> SoulCHild: there's no such thing - perhaps you mean the coolnquiet driver module ?
[08:24] <hjmills> SoulCHild: that sounds like a stupid idea - you need your processor
[08:24] <xfab> linuxnewuserr: you just have to resize the extended partition
[08:24] <SoulCHild> fredl: cause my centrino is not working properly and i read that i won't have controll over it if i uninstall but than i dont have this probelms anymore
[08:24] <DanaG> oh, speedstep-centrino?
[08:24] <DanaG> What's the issue?
[08:24] <SoulCHild> yes
[08:24] <SoulCHild> danag: the problem...
[08:25] <fredl> is that an actual module?
[08:25] <xfab> hjmills: well then, have a nice evening and see you soon
[08:25] <fredl> Hmm
[08:25] <SoulCHild> danag: if ac adapter is plugged in my maschine runs  very slowely, only at 100 mhz but i got 1600
[08:25] <xfab> cu guys
[08:25] <PeterM> how can those lines from extra codecs for Gstreamer in synaptic to install them ?
[08:25] <hjmills> xfab: cya
[08:25] <Federico_>  Hi! anybody running ubuntu on a macbook wants to share some impression on it?
[08:25] <fredl> SoulCHild, well, if the module is named speedstep-centrino, does rmmod speedstep-centrino work?
[08:25] <mwe> SoulCHild: 100 mhz?
[08:25] <DanaG> SoulCHild: try the package "powersaved"
[08:25] <mwe> SoulCHild: does it even support that speed?
[08:25] <DanaG> It can set policies.
[08:26] <SoulCHild> fredl: i ll try
[08:26] <SoulCHild> mwe: how can i check?
[08:26] <fredl> SoulCHild, well, the centrino should be scaled up when you do something that requires CPU power.
[08:26] <Gecko> Hey there. I am thinking about switching from kubuntu to ubuntu, I know that it's just an apt-get install ubuntu-desktop away, but does anyone know if there is anything that doesn't quite work from this or is it all just good?
[08:26] <linuxnewuserr> hey
[08:26] <LameBMX> Gecko, the other way was pretty smooth
[08:26] <adaptr> Gecko: if you remember to disable the KDE services you don't need - I found some getting in my way when switching desktops
[08:26] <mwe> SoulCHild: you probably need to check the docs for your CPU. my centrino is 1.2GHz and can only clock down to 600 mhz
[08:27] <fredl> SoulCHild, it saves power on your laptop to give the CPU more power when it's actually *needed*
[08:27] <LameBMX> Gecko, from ubuntu to kde .. but kde added tons of stuff i didnt care for
[08:27] <DanaG> I have a Yonah 1.83GHz, and I can only go down to 1.00GHz.
[08:27] <SoulCHild> fredl: Error: modulew is in use
[08:27] <Gecko> LameBMX: yeah, that's my biggest concern: Having a ton of useless app
[08:27] <DanaG> Install the package "powersaved"
[08:27] <Gecko> *apps
[08:27] <DanaG> then go through the config files in /etc/powersave/ and set it as you like it.
[08:27] <SoulCHild> I simply want to deactive this options, cause my ubuntu boots 3 times longer wehn ac adapter is plugged in
[08:27] <SoulCHild> on batterie it runs normally#
[08:28] <LameBMX> Gecko, well its not too hard if you do it cli .. just apt-get autoremove after wards
[08:28] <SoulCHild> danaG: thanks, i ll try
[08:28] <Gecko> LameBMX: oh, right
[08:28] <LameBMX> Gecko, or save it until your sure you wanna switch
[08:28] <PeterM> how can those lines from extra codecs for Gstreamer in synaptic to install them ? please!! damn
[08:28] <DanaG> If that doesn't work for you, add the line "blacklist speedstep-centrino" to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[08:28] <SoulCHild> danag no package found named powersave
[08:28] <riotkittie> powersaved
[08:28] <BlankMedia> What is the best linux Dock Program...kinda like OS X Dock?
[08:29] <DanaG> powersaved  -- d is for daemon.
[08:29] <phr34ck> should I upgrade to Gnome 2.16 ?
[08:29] <riotkittie> with the d ath the end
[08:29] <SoulCHild> ahh ok
[08:29] <SoulCHild> installing
[08:29] <joerlend> PeterM: No need to swear. I don't understand what you're saying, and there are so many others asking. Perhaps you should rephrase?
[08:29] <Gecko> So, how do I use that new init system, if I for instance want to change default *dm? Still update-rc.d?
[08:29] <DanaG> I have mine set to use the scheme "acoustic" when on AC and "powersave" when on battery.
[08:29] <LInUX_> hey every one out there
[08:29] <riotkittie> brb
[08:29] <DanaG> I set acoustic to use dynamic CPU frequency and powersave to use powersave (lowest always)
[08:29] <L0cKd0wN> how about dem gators? :D
[08:30] <mwe> SoulCHild: I found this: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies
[08:30] <joerlend> PeterM: I think they're in the multiverse repository.
[08:30] <BlankMedia> What is the best linux Dock Program...kinda like OS X Dock?
[08:30] <mwe> SoulCHild: it shows my supported freqs
[08:30] <jpjacobs> PeterM, gstreamer has nothing to do with mplayer.
[08:30] <joerlend> PeterM: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:30] <PeterM> joerlend: i'm not swearing, i wasted one hour for nothing, they don't help me becuase i'm a newbie or something who knows. just i want to do is to play .avi files, that's all.
[08:30] <SoulCHild> danaG: hmm ... can#t i simply deactive it, as i am always on ac... does blacklist speedstep_centrino help
[08:30] <Gecko> I better do the switch from text-mode. Brb
[08:30] <L0cKd0wN> PeterM, i just woke up but... whats ur problem?
[08:31] <DanaG> Yeah, that'd prevent the module from loading.
[08:31] <joerlend> BlankMedia: kdocker is nice, if you want to minimize any apps to tray.
[08:31] <hjmills> PeterM i already told you
[08:31] <hjmills> !avi
[08:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:31] <SoulCHild> danag thanks,...
[08:31] <DanaG> oh yeah, try 'cpufreq-info'
[08:31] <SoulCHild> ok
[08:31] <mwe> SoulCHild: you will probably get poor battery life without speedstep
[08:31] <DanaG> You can set the AC scheme to "performance"
[08:31] <mena> its advisable not use automatrix right
[08:32] <SoulCHild> danaG: command not found
[08:32] <mnoir> mena: right
[08:32] <mena> okay thanks
[08:32] <DanaG> oh, there's a package cpufrequtils
[08:32] <jpjacobs> PeterM, do you have w32codecs and mplayer?
[08:32] <aloon> anybody venture a guess wether gnome would control cpu temp/fans differently or better than KDE?
[08:32] <gerst> hi.. how can I change gaim irc colors?
[08:32] <PeterM> jpjacobs: i only have mplayer installed
[08:32] <SoulCHild> mwe: i am always on ac ... i can live with that
[08:32] <SoulCHild> danag okay i ll install
[08:32] <mwe> SoulCHild: oh
[08:32] <PeterM> jpjacobs: do i have to install w32codecs too from synaptic ?
[08:33] <jpjacobs> PeterM, then also get w32codecs, mplayer uses those, and not the free gstreamer codecs
[08:33] <jpjacobs> indeed
[08:33] <joerlend> aloon: I would guess that gnome and kde would both provide different frontends to the same backend.
[08:33] <DanaG> You can also dpkg-reconfigure gnome-applets
[08:33] <DanaG> and allow the cpufreq thingy to be root,
[08:33] <LInUX_> i've upgrade my ubuntu to feisty but i have a problem with the acpid  it gave a message that i should do dpkg-reconfigure acpi but it still show me that acpi not configured will what should i do >
[08:33] <DanaG> then add a cpufreq applet to the panel.
[08:33] <mwe> SoulCHild: sudo su -c 'echo performance > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq' should set it to max freq
[08:33] <PeterM> jpjacobs: there isn't nothing called w32codecs in synaptic
[08:34] <mnoir> LInUX_: go to #ubuntu+1
[08:34] <DanaG> The applet can be very useful.
[08:34] <SoulCHild> danaG, i have now my fill 1600 MhZ,... strange.. although i am on ac...
[08:34] <SoulCHild> i ll unplugg it and see
[08:34] <Gunnar> Q: I have an mp3 (Audio) file that I want to make the length smaller so I can burn to a CD,  Any Ideas what program can do this?
[08:34] <joerlend> PeterM: search the wiki. There is a link to a w32codecs download line.
[08:34] <aloon> joerlend do you know how to control cpu throttling? ive spent days googling it and I know there is a script that controls it but I cant find it
[08:34] <DanaG> powersaved sets it for yoy.
[08:34] <DanaG> you.
[08:34] <LInUX_> mnoir thank you
[08:34] <SoulCHild> now its on 600
[08:34] <mnoir> :)
[08:34] <DanaG> It'll be ondemand.
[08:34] <mwe> SoulCHild: mine does that if I unplug as well
[08:34] <SoulCHild> but how comes that it boots 2 minutes longer when i am on batterie ??
[08:34] <joerlend> aloon: I haven't done it myself, but you can limit a users cpu time with ulimit
[08:34] <DanaG> Just look around in the files in /etc/powersave
[08:34] <ismail> i cant play vcds does anyone have thesame  problem
[08:35] <SoulCHild> i lll reboot with ac plugged in and see... and come back, will u still be here in 4 minutes ?
[08:35] <DanaG> Yup.
[08:35] <lillpelle> Gunnar: maybe mp3splt package
[08:35] <SoulCHild> thanks, u help me a lot... i am fighting with this since month,...
[08:35] <SoulCHild> cya
[08:35] <Gunnar> Thanks.
[08:36] <fredl> well that's three ISO's downloaded today :P hope this one works!
[08:36] <ryanakca> hmm... is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IdeaPool used by anybody?
[08:36] <ryanakca> fredl: lol
[08:36] <mwe> fredl: check the md5sum ;)
[08:36] <jpjacobs> PeterM then you'll have to add some repo's (multiverse/universe/...)
[08:36] <PeterM> jpjacobs: can you tell me how pleae ?
[08:37] <fredl> mwe: I did. But first I decided to give edubuntu a try, I was mistaken to assume that this would be a good idea for my kids.
[08:37] <jpjacobs> !repos|PeterM
[08:37] <ubotu> PeterM: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:37] <fredl> mwe: and then I had the broken standard ISO
[08:37] <aloon> joerlend I see cpulimit in the repos
[08:37] <mwe> fredl: yeah
[08:37] <linux_user400354> Whats the difference between a 3d card and a vga card?
[08:37] <fredl> mwe: and now the alternate ISO
[08:37] <DanaG> You can burn CDs at a lower speed if they get corrupted or misread at higher speeds.
[08:38] <mwe> fredl: there is a good chance it will work right
[08:38] <DanaG> I don't know what edubuntu is about.
[08:38] <fredl> mwe - yeah I already started the text install from the alternate CD.
[08:38] <riotkittie> what did you think edubuntu was all about
[08:38] <joerlend> linux_user400354: well, the 3d card calculates images. VGA writes images to your screen. Or something like that.
[08:38] <mwe> linux_user400354: a vga card wont support accelerated 3d
[08:39] <PeterM> jpjacobs: on synaptic > repo > ubuntu 6.10 it's all there.
[08:39] <mwe> oh
[08:39] <fredl> I thought edubuntu was purely educational as in 'for kids'. Instead it seems like it's indeed also somewhat for kids, but more for schools 'n stuff to install LTSP or something.
[08:39] <PeterM> jpjacobs: universe, main, multiverse and restricted.
[08:39] <DanaG> What is LTSP?...
[08:39] <fredl> Linux Terminal Server.
[08:39] <mena> mnoir, Is There Any problem if i use kde apps on ubuntu
[08:39] <LinTux> anybody in the UK using Tiscali
[08:39] <joerlend> fredl: yes, it has some cool features.
[08:39] <jpjacobs> PeterM, have you updated your apt after adding those?
[08:40] <DanaG> I use kde apps in Gnome.
[08:40] <fredl> so you can use cheapo clients that run applications on a server.
[08:40] <abuyazan> hello all
[08:40] <seraphim_> mena: no
[08:40] <fredl> joerlend, I'm sure, but I'm no school :)
[08:40] <fredl> well
[08:40] <PeterM> jpjacobs: sudo apt-get update ?
[08:40] <jpjacobs> i mean executed apt-get update or with the updatemanager
[08:40] <abuyazan>  how can i put my picture on gaim account
[08:40] <DanaG> The only issue is that the appearance is mismatched.
[08:40] <fredl> I have only 2 kids that is :P
[08:40] <jpjacobs> indeed
[08:40] <abuyazan> like MSN messenger
[08:40] <PeterM> jpjacobs: wait a sec
[08:40] <mena> seraphim, okay thanks
[08:40] <joerlend> fredl: you don't have to run a terminal server in order to run edubuntu
[08:40] <fredl> joerlend, but it installs LTSP automatically.
[08:41] <verve> question.. the 6.10 ISO.. is that a livecd?
[08:41] <L0cKd0wN> about this multimedia problem, has he tried VLC Player, that thing worked outta the box for me
[08:41] <Uthalin> yes
[08:41] <fredl> verve, yes and no :)
[08:41] <joerlend> fredl: why does that matter?
[08:41] <hjmills> verve: yes - and the install disk
[08:41] <mwe> fredl: you can get all the stuff it would install with apt later though
[08:41] <SoulCHild> hey i am back... still no succes booting still takes long with ac plugged in
[08:41] <verve> and can you also install it to the hdd after?
[08:41] <PeterM> jpjacobs: yes, it's enabled.
[08:41] <fredl> joerlend: uhm, the install takes at least twice as long.
[08:41] <hjmills> verve: yes - thats correct
[08:41] <Uthalin> verve: yeah, the live CD will install, you can even surf the web at the same time
[08:41] <riotkittie> gah.
[08:42] <PeterM> jpjacobs: all i want a command to install those codecs, can you give me one?
[08:42] <verve> but i don't have to install, i can just try out Ubuntu from the cd, right?
[08:42] <Uthalin> verve: correct
[08:42] <hjmills> !avi | PeterM
[08:42] <hjmills> !avi | PeterM
[08:42] <hjmills> !avi | PeterM
[08:42] <hjmills> !avi | PeterM
[08:42] <ubotu> PeterM: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:42] <hjmills> !avi | PeterM
[08:42] <verve> 'cause i'm thinking i'm gonna switch to Ubuntu, but i need to wait until i get my dvd burner first
[08:42] <verve> heh
[08:42] <joerlend> verve: the Desktop-cd is both a live-cd and install cd. The Alternate CD is not a live-cd and gives you a text-based installer.
[08:42] <mwe> hjmills: ?
[08:42] <hjmills> !avi | PeterM
[08:42] <L0cKd0wN> lol
[08:42] <jpjacobs> PeterM, there is also the seveas repo if the package w32codecs isn't available from univers/multivers
[08:42] <DanaG> SoulCHild: hmm, if you do
[08:42] <verve> word
[08:42] <Zeta_John> hello all
[08:42] <Uthalin> verve: well it can fit on a single CD
[08:42] <mwe> hjmills: I think he got it
[08:42] <DanaG> dmesg | less
[08:42] <L0cKd0wN> not sure he did
[08:42] <riotkittie> anyone know where/how i might change the tty font :\~
[08:42] <verve> the alternate cd?
[08:42] <L0cKd0wN> lol
[08:42] <verve> where's that?
[08:42] <DanaG> you can scroll through the boot messages.
[08:42] <Uthalin> verve: oh im not sure about alternate
[08:42] <L0cKd0wN> lol
[08:42] <verve> like.. you can't get the two confused, can you?
[08:42] <verve> heh
[08:42] <L0cKd0wN> ops are everwhere -_-
[08:43] <DanaG> Look for anything that may seem relevant.
[08:43] <Zeta_John> is it a cd with app packages for ubuntu as in many distributions?
[08:43] <hjmills> sorry
[08:43] <riotkittie> insanely large text + speedy irc chan = bad combo
[08:43] <SoulCHild> danag: all processes take longer, it isnt a specific one
[08:43] <hjmills> i just get frustrated by people asking for help and ignoring the replied
[08:43] <hjmills> s/replied/replies
[08:43] <mwe> hjmills: heh
[08:43] <L0cKd0wN> vlc player = solution to multimedia problems
[08:43] <verve> anyways, alright.. thanks guys.. and kudos to being a friendly channel
[08:43] <verve> <3
[08:43] <L0cKd0wN> end of discussion.
[08:43] <SoulCHild> and there are no errors... i also dont have options to deactivate power savings in bios
[08:43] <mwe> hjmills: that seems normal in here though
[08:43] <jpjacobs> !source-o-matic
[08:43] <joerlend> Can't I scroll back with irssi?
[08:43] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:43] <DanaG> Hmm.
[08:43] <fredl> hjmills, haha, you know what's worse? if you type in a longwinded reply and the guy /quits before you can hit enter.
[08:43] <hjmills> was i kicked automatically or did somebody kick me normally?
[08:44] <hjmills> fredl: yeah - thats sucks too
[08:44] <mwe> joerlend: I think you can but I forgot how
[08:44] <L0cKd0wN> the ops came down from the heavens and made you leave :)
[08:44] <hjmills> joerlend: i want to say page up but i dont know for sure
[08:44] <Skwid_> is it possible to install ubuntu from floppy using network ?
[08:44] <joerlend> hjmills: that doesn't do it.
[08:44] <SoulCHild> danaG: i added blacklist speedstep_centrino but rmmod still says it is in use
[08:44] <fredl> okay, I really need to go get some tobacco.
[08:44] <hjmills> joerlend: sorry - bin a while since i used it
[08:44] <L0cKd0wN> floppy? people still have those O_o
[08:44] <Zeta_John> is it a cd or a ftp with programs packages for ubuntu?
[08:44] <riotkittie> shift + page up perhaps
[08:44] <hjmills> joerlend: check the man page?
[08:45] <DanaG> I think blacklist uses - instead of _
[08:45] <DanaG> it's odd: modprobe has things hyphenated
[08:45] <DanaG> rmmod has them underscored.
[08:45] <DanaG> this-is-modprobe this_is_rmmod
[08:45] <DanaG> odd.
[08:45] <joerlend> hjmills: sorry.. :) _now_ it suddenly works. I tried it earlier, but then I only got the bash history
[08:45] <riotkittie> anyone know where/how i might change the tty font?  bueller? bueller? ;p
[08:45] <hjmills> is there a way to get jabber and msn in xchat? or just jabber
[08:45] <SoulCHild> hmmm ... and now ? what u want me to try ?
[08:45] <mwe> DanaG: modprobe -l will show all the correct names
[08:45] <roostishaw> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook <--- could i use that guide on an external firewire drive i have attatched to my macbook with bootcamp?
[08:45] <hjmills> joerlend: oh well - if it works then dont complain!
[08:46] <Seveas> hjmills, bitlbee
[08:46] <hjmills> :)
[08:46] <joerlend> hjmills: try bitlbee for msn
[08:46] <jpjacobs> PeterM, in order to see what you must add in /etc/apt/sources.list for adding the seveas repos, use http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic, and only tick the seveas one
[08:46] <hjmills> Seveas: oh ok - so i cant get a plugin?
[08:46] <joerlend> hjmills: im.bitlbee.org
[08:46] <Mario85> Hi
[08:46] <metal04> hi
[08:46] <hjmills> joerlend: thanks
[08:46] <mwe> !bitlbee
[08:46] <joerlend> hjmills: just connect to it as if it's an IRC server and you'll get help once you're logged in.
[08:46] <ubotu> bitlbee: An IRC to other chat networks gateway. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1 (edgy), package size 297 kB, installed size 768 kB
[08:47] <L0cKd0wN> anyone know how to add the terminal to the right click menu ?
[08:47] <L0cKd0wN> :D
[08:47] <SoulCHild> however... i lll try later... danag thanks for caring
[08:47] <SoulCHild> peace
[08:47] <vieira> i ppl need help with printing form a windows to a kubuntu box any one expert in cups?
[08:48] <Zeta_John> ok everybody is too busy here
[08:48] <Zeta_John> by , see you later
[08:48] <TurboLover> hey guys
[08:48] <mattions> vieira: try to install on windows instruments to print under Unix
[08:48] <TurboLover> anyone ever have a problem with lcd screen
[08:48] <mwe> vieira: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[08:49] <L0cKd0wN> TurboLover, indeed
[08:49] <binarydigit> !ops
[08:49] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[08:49] <L0cKd0wN> oh jesus
[08:49] <numist> howa
[08:49] <roostishaw> WTF?
[08:49] <Uthalin> wounderful
[08:49] <roostishaw> sheesh
[08:49] <binarydigit> eek
[08:50] <yoshiznit123> what was that?
[08:50] <numist> well that was fun.
[08:50] <numist> might want to look into chanmode +J
[08:50] <TurboLover> anyone ever have a problem with ubuntu saying screens not found?
[08:50] <dramaEMO> a gay pride?
[08:50] <Seveas> numist, +J is a spawn of the devil
[08:50] <ismail> gus can i have some help here
[08:50] <TurboLover> like when i try to boot up to livecd
[08:50] <binarydigit> a ban on gay....
[08:50] <binarydigit> interesting
[08:50] <L0cKd0wN> lol
[08:50] <numist> Seveas: it also works in cases like that
[08:50] <joerlend> yoshiznit123: that was someone having sad fun.
[08:50] <L0cKd0wN> class action lawsuit, anyone? :D
[08:50] <Seveas> numist, it breaks in far too many cases as well
[08:50] <yoshiznit123> lol
[08:51] <numist> Seveas: when was the last time ou used it to the point of failure?
[08:51] <L0cKd0wN> ubuntu is homophobic, FABULOUS!
[08:51] <L0cKd0wN> lol j/p :D
[08:51] <yoshiznit123> hey everyone, is there a way to enter unicode characters from the keyboard? something like windows' alt+numpad combination
[08:51] <Seveas> numist, 2 seconds before it failed again so I set mlock to -J
[08:51] <PeterM> jpjacobs: sorry but i don't understand what's that
[08:51] <Zeta_John> no one knows if any cd or ftp specific to ubuntu packages exists ?
[08:51] <L0cKd0wN> anyone, i wanna stick the terminal in the right click menu
[08:51] <Seveas> and it failed to the point where after a netsplit everyone was gone
[08:52] <PeterM> jpjacobs: i tried to use synaptic to add those lines with gstreamer but i don't see any ADD on edgy.
[08:52] <metal04> Hey, I'm having a hard time installing wine...  anyone can help?  When I add in the repositories "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main" I get a 404 not found...  Is it normal?  Am I doing something wrong?
[08:52] <PeterM> jpjacobs: so i'm confused now
[08:52] <numist> Seveas | nalioth: note we're forwarding now to -unregged and the channel is not +r
[08:52] <Uthalin> metal04: sudo apt-get install wine should work if you have universe enabled
[08:52] <markelhas> mwe: i've check that already, can't print from the windows box only
[08:52] <markelhas> mattions: where can i find that?
[08:53] <Seveas> numist, so?
[08:53] <LameBMX> metal04, why are you using that repository for it
[08:53] <jpjacobs> PeterM, do sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list. then paste the lines you find using source-o-matic below all others, then save, update the packagelsitings and install w32codecs
[08:53] <markelhas> i ppl need help with printing form a windows to a kubuntu box any one expert in cups?
[08:53] <Seveas> numist, we are perfectly capable of running a channel
[08:53] <Seveas> no need for 'advise'
[08:53] <numist> sorry, didnt mean to make anyone touchy, sheesh
[08:53] <DanaG> What is "J?
[08:53] <metal04> LameBMX : cause the wine website says so!  hehehe
[08:53] <Skwid_> is it possible to install ubuntu from a floppy using a network connection ??????
[08:53] <markelhas> any cups expert!?
[08:53] <mwe> markelhas: is a firewall blocking it or something maybe
[08:53] <LameBMX> its in universe .. remove that repo how you installed it
[08:53] <Uthalin> metal04: theres an ubuntu specific build in univierse
[08:54] <mwe> markelhas: the directions in the wiki normally works
[08:54] <markelhas> mwe: i don't think so cause i can see my shared folders
[08:54] <ismail> skwid: dont think so but i  guess u can install it from a flash drive
[08:54] <markelhas> mwe: i've follow the wiki :(
[08:54] <metal04> Ok, I'm a total neeb to Ubuntu and Linux...  so what is universe?
[08:54] <markelhas> mwe: the says that it was ok but the printer don't print it
[08:54] <Seveas> !universe | metal04
[08:54] <ubotu> metal04: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:54] <alecjw> hi. is there any way of doing everyhtign which would happen if you restarted (other than reloading the kernel) without resarting? do you just rmmod everhyitng then modprobe it all agian, then /etc/init.d/* restart?
[08:55] <Uthalin> metal04: open up a terminal and try typing just this "sudo apt-get install wine"
[08:55] <ompaul> alecjw, a sure way to get yourself a flaky machine
[08:55] <fdoving> alecjw: why not just reboot?
[08:55] <markelhas> mwe: and if a send a test page from windows printers properties don't print, but if i browser with ie in cups and ask for a print test it works :(
[08:55] <LILSHADOW> Hello everyone
[08:56] <mattions> markelhas: they comes as windows system addons ... they have worked for me untill I have erased the win2000 for an ubuntu also on that computer...
[08:56] <alecjw> fdoving: becuase that would be too simple :D. i just asked out of interest really
[08:56] <mwe> markelhas: hmm
[08:56] <jamaas> Could anyone tell me if there is an easy way to replace/regenerate missing/corrupt /etc/mtab file ?  Newbie here ...
[08:56] <PeterM> jpjacobs: i got this when i try to apt-get install w32codecs. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/771/
[08:56] <ompaul> jamaas, reboot
[08:56] <fdoving> alecjw: ah.. sure, you can kill everything but init, and re-run the init scripts. that's possible.
[08:57] <Pipeman_> alecjw: now, I don't know how it works with the new upstart, but in normal init systems you'd be able to use "telinit 1" to go to single-user mode and then "telinit 3" (or "telinit 5" if that's the default runlevel) to go back to normal usage
[08:57] <jamaas> ompaul: get the same thing each time I reboot ...
[08:57] <joerlend> PeterM: did you read the RestrictedFormats page?
[08:57] <hjmills> how can i install the kde fonts?
[08:57] <mwe> jamaas: mtab reflects your mounts
[08:57] <fdoving> hjmills: what kde fonts specifically? the konsole fonts?
[08:57] <hjmills> joerlend: i hope so - i told him about it enough!
[08:57] <mwe> jamaas: what's the problem?
[08:57] <alecjw> PeterM: w32codecs has been removed form the codecs for legal reasons.
[08:57] <ompaul> jamaas, what are you trying to mount? cos that is the actual mounted partions
[08:57] <ElcMawr> Greetings... Please can anyone tell me why my Evolution (email) address book is not accepting any new addresses?
[08:57] <alecjw> !w32codecs | PeterM
[08:57] <markelhas> mwe: any ideia how can i solve this?
[08:58] <ubotu> PeterM: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:58] <joerlend> hjmills: I noticed. That's why I'm asking. It's abit strange that he's still asking.
[08:58] <jamaas> ompaul: I can't mount my cd or external usb disk
[08:58] <PeterM> joerlend: not yet, i wasted 1+ hour, it's late here and i want to play a movie, sheeesh
[08:58] <hjmills> fdoving: well my gf used to have kubuntu but today i installed ubuntu-desktop and removed kde and now she has fonts that i dont have
[08:58] <] batistuta[> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[08:58] <] batistuta[> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[08:58] <] batistuta[> what can i do ?
[08:58] <mwe> markelhas: make sure the ip traffic is getting through to the linux machine on the cups port
[08:58] <hjmills> joerlend: i told you about that restricted formats web page over half an hour ago - that would have had you up and running within about 10 minutes max
[08:58] <markelhas> mwe: in the wiki says about a cups.d to set port, but i don't have that folder, but in my cups.conf there is a 631 allow port
[08:59] <joerlend> hjmills: me? :)
[08:59] <markelhas> mwe: how can i check that?
[08:59] <joerlend> PeterM: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs
[08:59] <hjmills> joerlend: oops - my bad - sorry and thanks for telling me
[08:59] <PeterM> joerlend: so all i have to do is "sudo apt-get install gstream0.10*.... from restreictedformats?
[08:59] <fdoving> hjmills: oh.. compare the output of "dpkg -l '*fonts*'" on both machines.
[08:59] <ompaul> jamaas, when you plug in the device click on places and then home folder and see if the device is presented there (wait about 10 seconds) if it is there it will show on the "desktop" you can right click on the desktop to choose to "eject" it
[08:59] <hjmills> PeterM: i told you about that restricted formats web page over half an hour ago - that would have had you up and running within about 10 minutes max
[08:59] <mwe> markelhas: but can you reach that port from the windows machine?
[08:59] <jpjacobs> PeterM, close all running apt stuff (like synaptic/updatemanager/...)
[08:59] <hjmills> fdoving: thanks
[09:00] <ewook> phaw. wine only gives me plenty of errors =/
[09:00] <markelhas> mwe: yes because i can manage the cups form windows box
[09:00] <SHDAOW_X> Can anyone help me i have a broadcom  BCM4321 wireless card and cannot get ubuntu edgy to see it
[09:00] <SHDAOW_X> i have ndiswrapper on
[09:00] <PeterM> jpjacobs: and now?
[09:00] <jpjacobs> PeterM, it's to busy here, can i PM you?
[09:00] <riotkittie> wahhh
[09:00] <mwe> markelhas: and you can print locally on the linux machine?
[09:00] <SHDAOW_X> and it sees the driver and the hardware
[09:00] <hjmills> PeterM: do a "sudo apt-get install libdvdplay3 totem-xine libxine-extracodecs"
[09:00] <riotkittie> bueller? beuller?
[09:00] <PeterM> jpjacobs: sure
[09:01] <PeterM> ok hjmills
[09:01] <alecjw> SHDAOW_X: hagve you tried installing the FW and using the bcm43xx driver?
[09:01] <ompaul> SHDAOW_X, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4311_rev_01_%28ndiswrapper%29?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29 <<<---- that url there
[09:01] <cokeslut> sup
[09:01] <acetech747> what is the deal on the amd64 version?  i tried it before but a lot of programs seemed to have a problem so i reverted back to the x86 version.  is this less of a problem now?
[09:01] <ElcMawr> Any Evolution (email) experts here please?
[09:01] <PeterM> hjmills: E: Couldn't find package libdvdplay3
[09:01] <joerlend> PeterM: READ! You've been given the answers to your questions.
[09:01] <hjmills> PeterM: when that finishes run "i told you about that restricted formats web page over half an hour ago - that would have had you up and running within about 10 minutes max"
[09:01] <alecjw> ElcMawr: i can help you a bit, mainly with configuring evo
[09:01] <alecjw> with gmail
[09:01] <SHDAOW_X> ompaul thank you
[09:01] <hjmills> PeterM: sorry - change that whole command to the following
[09:02] <alecjw> ElcMawr: sory. i meant gmail
[09:02] <hjmills> PeterM: do a "sudo apt-get install libdvdread3 totem-xine libxine-extracodecs"
[09:02] <SHDAOW_X> alecjw what is fw?
[09:02] <riotkittie> anyone know where  i might change the tty font?
[09:02] <cokeslut> you tell me
[09:02] <jamaas> ompaul: Thanks, when I try that just get an error message saying it can not input/output mtab.  I'll reboot and have a look again?
[09:02] <alecjw> SHDAOW_X: firmware
[09:02] <ElcMawr> alecjw, sorry it's got to be Evolution. thanks anyway
[09:02] <yoshiznit123> is there a way to enter unicode characters from the keyboard? something like windows' alt+numpad combination
[09:02] <ompaul> jamaas, have it unplugged as the machine boots log in and then plug it in
[09:02] <alecjw> ElcMawr: i meant as in configuring evolution with gmail
[09:02] <joerlend> ElcMawr: don't ask for experts, you'll only scare off the semi-experts. Ask a precise question. If you really need an _expert_ then you should join #Evolution at gimpnet
[09:02] <alecjw> is tha waht you want to do?
[09:03] <hjmills> PeterM: that command will work and get you all up and running
[09:03] <ompaul> jamaas, and if it fails to show - then put it in a differnt USB port
[09:03] <Skwid_> is it possible to install ubuntu from a floppy using a network connection ??????
[09:03] <ElcMawr> alecjw, joerlend -- ok thanks
[09:03] <markelhas> mwe: i can print local and from other kubuntu box
[09:03] <hjmills> PeterM: if not - come back here and tell me
[09:03] <metal04> Uthalin : I tried "sudo apt-get install wine" but I get an error message : "Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
[09:03] <PeterM> hjmills: ok, and after that, what i need to do ?
[09:03] <SHDAOW_X> alecjw no how can i do that
[09:03] <Uthalin> metal04: using kubuntu or ubuntu?
[09:03] <PeterM> hjmills: to read restrictedformats webpage?
[09:03] <mwe> markelhas: and you're positive the printer is configured correctly in windows?
[09:03] <ElcMawr> Precise question: why doesn't Evolution accept any new address book entries?
[09:04] <metal04> Ubuntu
[09:04] <hjmills> PeterM: sudo  /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[09:04] <joerlend> PeterM: you couldn't possibly have read both pages and still be here asking questions?
[09:04] <markelhas> mwe: i think so
[09:04] <hjmills> PeterM: that command will work if you are on edgy
[09:04] <metal04> rename metal03
[09:04] <alecjw> SHDAOW_X: i'll try and find the utorial. it owrked on my bcm4306. most broadcoms work with EITER ndiswrapper OR the firmware hting
[09:04] <metal04> Can I?
[09:04] <markelhas> mwe: i've put the link in the wizard a choose the printer
[09:04] <SHDAOW_X> k
[09:04] <mwe> markelhas: double check. I'm sorry I can't say anything more clever
[09:04] <PeterM> hjmills: ok
[09:04] <markelhas> mwe: ok them
[09:05] <SHDAOW_X> thanks alecjw mine is pre-n dont know if that helps any
[09:05] <markelhas> mwe: i trying to set this for weeks
[09:05] <aloon> does lmsensors actually physically control cpu temp (via fan control) or is it just a visual display of whats going on?
[09:05] <markelhas> :(
[09:05] <SHDAOW_X> alecjw just for information sake its a dell laptop
[09:05] <hjmills> PeterM: also in future if ubotu tells you to go to a website for more info then please go there - its somebody else giving you info on what you asked for
[09:05] <ompaul> aloon, it is observational
[09:05] <Uthalin> metal04: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:05] <Pedro555> hy
[09:05] <PeterM> hjmills: it's done, now i can play ?
[09:05] <L0cKd0wN> i wanna stick the terminal in the right click menu
[09:05] <L0cKd0wN> how might one accomplish this?
[09:06] <hjmills> PeterM: yes-  open totem from them menu and try playing the .avi file
[09:06] <alecjw> SHDAOW_X: hmmm... that might mean something, but it workedo n my g+ (125 mbps) (but it can only do 11mbps (wireless b)) . this might haoppen to you too
[09:06] <LinTux> binary
[09:06] <metal04> Uthalin : Ok, what now?
[09:06] <aloon> ompaul I had a friend once do it, but I need to edit the script that controls the cpu throttling stages, right now it gets to 70 degrees within minutes and goes to 12% running speed
[09:06] <ompaul> aloon, looks like the fan is not turning on
[09:06] <hjmills> PeterM: let me know if it works
[09:06] <mwe> markelhas: what's the address you type in the windows priner wizard?
[09:07] <Uthalin> metal04: do you see the part where it says uncomment these lines to add sources from the universe repisatory?
[09:07] <alecjw> SHDAOW_X: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174 - good luck :)
[09:07] <PeterM> hjmills: ok, thanks a lot, it works and sorry if i was so stupid
[09:07] <jseattle> question: how do i put firefox 1.5 on ubuntu edgy as flash player kills firefox 2.0 on my system? please help
[09:07] <Uthalin> metal04: uncomment the line that says deb but not the one with deb-src
[09:07] <hjmills> PeterM: thats ok - just dont ever ignore ubotu
[09:07] <PeterM> hjmills: ok, i will next time. have a nice day
[09:08] <hjmills> PeterM: enjoy your video
[09:08] <jamaas> ompaul: back again, this is a dell d410 notebook and the cd is in the docking station, so I shutdown, took it out of the docking station, restarted edgy and now still do not have a /etc/mtab file ... ?
[09:08] <markelhas> http://printer-server:631/printers/HP5510
[09:08] <markelhas> mwe: http://printer-server:631/printers/HP5510
[09:08] <crimson> hey, anyone know how I can fix the terminal error: C compiler cannot create executables?
[09:08] <markelhas> mwe: and set in host the ip
[09:08] <mwe> markelhas: huh?
[09:08] <ElcMawr> see you all again some time, I'll have to fix this evolution bug myself! cheers xxxxxx
[09:08] <SHDAOW_X> hmm alecjw really only 11mps? because i am running it on windows and it runs fine
[09:08] <mwe> markelhas: ah
[09:08] <Uthalin> metal04: once you uncomment that line then save the file and open up a terminal and type sudo apt-get update, then try sudo apt-get install wine again
[09:08] <nalioth> crimson: that is sometimes a sign of a badly written configure script
[09:08] <ompaul> jamaas, no idea there
[09:08] <aloon> ompaul the fans work but edgy doesnt work so good right off the bat for this ASUS 3.4g laptop, if im watching a youtube video it throttles down and I get glitchy images, thanhheme for throttling is reveresed if you pull the powerplug out the video gets perfect.. THe power management sc
[09:09] <mwe> markelhas: I'd try the IP instead though
[09:09] <crimson> nalioth: it is for the ktorrent version update, so I am not sure that is the case
[09:09] <jamaas> ompaul: Thanks, anyone else got any ideas how to fix a broken /etc/mtab file?
[09:09] <ompaul> aloon, the words bug report come to mind, I am not familar enough with that
[09:09] <mako> ryanakca: hey, what's up?
[09:09] <markelhas> mwe: done that :(
[09:09] <alecjw> SHDAOW_X: yep. :(. the driver is completely reverse engineered. but if, like me, you only use it for <=11mbps internet, it shouldnt matter,, although the range could be cut down to b's standard
[09:09] <metal04> Uthalin : The only lines I see start with gpg - -
[09:10] <ryanakca> mako: not much
[09:10] <TurboLover> hey guys
[09:10] <nalioth> crimson: do you have build-essential installed ?
[09:10] <SHDAOW_X> alecjw hm i have a 108mpbs router but for the time being working is working
[09:10] <aloon> ompaul basically it doesnt heat up at all in windows xp (tested) and I hate windows... but under edgy kde it seems to heat up to scary levels within 10 minutes
[09:10] <mwe> markelhas: odd. I afraid I out of ideas though
[09:10] <mako> ryanakca: i wanted to know what you were looking for, but i saw your pm
[09:10] <mwe> markelhas: maybe someone else has another suggestion
[09:11] <crimson> nalioth: oh, thats it, i forgot to re-install that after my OS upgrade. thanks
[09:11] <Uthalin> metal04: one sec
[09:11] <hjmills> does anybody here have a *shudder* lexmark multifunction?
[09:11] <Moon_Rabbits> Does anyone know why my mounted hard disk won't show up in Places -> Computer? It's mounted under /media, but it won't show up like the cdrom and floppy do.
[09:11] <neops> hi can ne1 help with resolution problem?
[09:11] <markelhas> mwe: i hope so
[09:12] <hjmills> Moon_Rabbits: even if you go to /media? also you should mount it in a subdir of /media
[09:12] <alecjw> SHDAOW_X: but rmember, unless you have a >11mbps interet connection, or you want to transfer files beteween 2 comps on the netwrok, it shoudnt make any differnece at all
[09:12] <metal04> Uthalin : kk, I mean I see lines with deb...  there just not in comment!
[09:12] <mwe> markelhas: it sounds odd to me
[09:12] <ompaul> aloon, how new is that hardware?
[09:12] <Uthalin> metal04: is there one like this? "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe"
[09:12] <Uthalin> metal04: make sure there is not a # before it
[09:12] <SHDAOW_X> alecjw yeah but i transfer all the times  the thing that i am wondering is just how much distance i will lose
[09:12] <nikin> !skype
[09:12] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[09:13] <aloon> ompaul its about 2 years old ASUS pent 4 , 3.4 g laptop
[09:13] <jamaas> mwe: any suggestions for broken/missing /etc/mtab?
[09:13] <SHDAOW_X> alecjw i have heard that people have gotten 54mbps out of it
[09:13] <metal04> Uthalin : deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted
[09:13] <metal04> No # before it
[09:13] <ompaul> aloon, that is one theory blown out of the water
[09:13] <mwe> markelhas: you said you can reach the printer-server http from a browser on the windows machine?
[09:13] <Moon_Rabbits> hjmills: Yeah, it shows up in media, and it's mounted to /media/drive-two0, but I want it to show up in Places > Computer, more of a effeciency issue than a technical one. That, and it would be easier for the rest of my family who know nothing about anything electronic.
[09:13] <mwe> jamaas: mtab is not the problem
[09:13] <mwe> jamaas: mtab just shows what mounted
[09:13] <neops> ne1 help?
[09:13] <mwe> jamaas: what is your problem?
[09:14] <Uthalin> metal04: ok add this line: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe
[09:14] <neops> resolution
[09:14] <jamaas> mwe: can not mount a cd or external usb disk
[09:14] <markelhas> mwe: yes
[09:14] <hjmills> Moon_Rabbits: create a bookmark in nautilus or a shortcut on the desktop or add it to /etc/fstab which should add  it to the my computer list
[09:14] <ompaul> !resolution | neops
[09:14] <ubotu> neops: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:14] <mwe> jamaas: mtab has nothing to do with that
[09:14] <alecjw> SHDAOW_X: well i expect that it's different for each card
[09:14] <metal04> Uthalin : Anywhere?  It doesn't matter?
[09:14] <mwe> jamaas: you need to look into /etc/fstab instead or type the correct mount command
[09:14] <SHDAOW_X> alecjw yeah your right did you find it?
[09:15] <Uthalin> metal04: as long as its on a line all by itself
[09:15] <jamaas> mwe: thanks, I hear you, thanks
[09:15] <Moon_Rabbits> hjmills: It is already in /etc/fstab. How do I make a bookmark in nautilus (sorry, its only my second day using ubuntu e.e;)
[09:15] <mwe> jamaas: what did you try?
[09:15] <neops> thanx if type slow bcause on cellphone typing
[09:15] <Snide> OK, I have XFX GeForce 7600 XXX Edition 256MB video card .. but when every time I go in screensaver mode, the 3d seems to be choppy .. its like as if my videoard aint enought
[09:15] <aloon> anyone else here on a laptop using edgy?
[09:15] <Snide> do i need to edit the nvidia-settings or something like that?
[09:15] <ericj2190> aloon: i am
[09:15] <jamaas> mwe: tried a couple of changes to fstab, it used to work fine but now is not finding things, will have a look
[09:15] <neops> only gives 640x480 option
[09:16] <Snide> the nvidia driver was preinstalled by utbuntau
[09:16] <ompaul> neops, read this web page: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:16] <crimson> nalioth: i got past that error but now the system "Can't find X includes." Whats that mean?
[09:16] <hjmills> Moon_Rabbits: in nautilus browse into /media/wherever and press Ctrl+D
[09:16] <alecjw> SHDAOW_X: didn't i give you the link? oh sorry. thought i have it to you about 5 mins ago.  here it is: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174& - and good luck
[09:16] <mnoir> !about | aloon
[09:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about about - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:16] <SHDAOW_X> alecjw thanks might of lost it
[09:17] <nalioth> !tell crimson about xincludes
[09:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xincludes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:17] <aloon> ericj2190 do you ever have overheating issues? or do you know how to control cpu throttling settings?
[09:17] <Snide> Hey guys, when I used the add and remove application to add Azuerus (and java too) .. I can't seem to open the program
[09:17] <Snide> why is that
[09:17] <nalioth> crimson: join me in #ubuntu-classroom please
[09:17] <Snide> The Azuerus program itself ..
[09:17] <ericj2190> aloon: no, sorry. i have not had had problems with that
[09:17] <aloon> okay good   : )
[09:18] <SHDAOW_X> hey alecjw can i just pm you so its easier to communicate
[09:18] <SHDAOW_X> ?
[09:18] <kostas_> hello
[09:19] <Snide> exit
[09:19] <alecjw> SHDAOW_X: there's not really much more to talk about now, is there
[09:20] <SHDAOW_X> alecjw well i tried that method that you sent me and it had errors extracting it
[09:20] <Russel> hiho
[09:20] <Russel> where do i get the kernel source for the actual ubuntu kernel?
[09:21] <nikin> !vcd
[09:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vcd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:21] <markelhas> some one can help me setting cups to work with windows!?
[09:21] <ompaul> Russel, this is how you get any packages source   http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[09:22] <ompaul> Russel, or type kernel and linux-image as a search in synaptic
[09:22] <ctp> hi folks. how to restart the x-server?
[09:22] <metal04> Uthalin : I get the same error message I got before
[09:22] <metal04> But I did all you asked
[09:22] <Uthalin> metal04: did you do a sudo apt-get update first?
[09:22] <ompaul> ctp,  >> /etc/init.d/gdm restart <<  works
[09:22] <metal04> Of course
[09:22] <ctp> ompaul: ah, ok. thx
[09:22] <Nomaggiz> how do you kill an app that doesn't die from "kill -9"
[09:23] <ompaul> Nomaggiz, what application is it?
[09:23] <Nomaggiz> ompaul: both totem and gmplayer actually... really weird...
[09:23] <riotkittie> kill -9 process id
[09:23] <riotkittie> or kill -9 name
[09:23] <metal04> Uthalin : Of course I did
[09:23] <ompaul> Nomaggiz, killall totem or killall "programname"
[09:24] <Nomaggiz> yes yes, no work
[09:24] <metal04> Uthalin : but lemme try again to be sure
[09:24] <ompaul> Nomaggiz, totem or totem-xine?
[09:24] <Nomaggiz> totem
[09:24] <riotkittie> -9 = all ?
[09:24] <Nomaggiz> and gmplayer
[09:24] <Music_Shuffle> Uhh...you broke the universe then. :X
[09:24] <minimec> Hi folks. I use mldonkey-server 2.8.1-1 and forwarded the ports tcp 4662 and udp 4666 ont the router to that machine. No high IP's on the donkey servers... Where am I wrong?
[09:24] <mnoir> riotkittie: no -9 means nuke it
[09:25] <riotkittie> yeah thats what i thought, mnoir
[09:25] <Uthalin> metal04: if that doesn't work im not sure what your problem is, wine is in universe so apt-get install should work
[09:25] <Nomaggiz> and what do you do when that has failed? to quote south park: how do you kill that which has no life?
[09:25] <mnoir> riotkittie: but some pgms just won't cooperate
[09:25] <metal04> Uthalin : The line should be "sudo apt-get install wine" right?
[09:25] <ompaul> Nomaggiz, if you really want to you can reboot
[09:25] <Uthalin> metal04: correct
[09:26] <Nomaggiz> no other way?
[09:26] <mnoir> ompaul: prolly no need - they should be children of X
[09:26] <Uthalin> metal04: see if someone who knows more than me can help you
[09:26] <Hansel> metal04 - yes... you need to make sure you have the repository with it in your sources.list though first
[09:26] <Nomaggiz> I have an ftp download going...
[09:26] <Hansel> otherwise it will just say package not found
[09:26] <riotkittie> anyone hear read like uh, ...  i believe they are called "books" ?
[09:26] <Chest> I want to remove Java and replace it with Java 6, but when I set java-common for removal, Ubuntu insists it has to remove ubunu-desktop.  Can you remove java and simply replace it?
[09:26] <mnoir> Nomaggiz: sometimes things just get 'stuck' - after d/l ends, try restarting x
[09:26] <ompaul> mnoir, there is that,    Nomaggiz  so restarting X might be useful then
[09:27] <riotkittie> they are many sheets of paper. sometimes in a hard, yet neither cruncty nor candy coated shell?
[09:27] <Nomaggiz> mnoir: yeah, I'll do that
[09:27] <riotkittie> crunchy
[09:27] <metal04> Hansel : I thought I verified this with Uthalin, but if you wanna go thru the verification of that with me Hansel I'd appreciate it!
[09:27] <Nomaggiz> I was just hoping there'd be a better way...
[09:27] <Hansel> Chest - try apt-get upgrade java6
[09:27] <mnoir> Nomaggiz: 1st try just ending current sesion and logging in again
[09:28] <riotkittie> Nomaggiz,  xkill?   <hides>
[09:28] <Hansel> metal04 - k... sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:28] <Chest> no java6 package
[09:28] <vleon>  ummm strange thing, ive installed ubuntu from an alternate install disk using text mode, in the installation i wasent prompt to configure the user, and yet when i boot up the system i need to insert a login and pasword
[09:28] <mnoir> Nomaggiz: then try ctl-alt-bsp to force restart if needed
[09:28] <Nomaggiz> mnoir: can't, I have downloads going...
[09:28] <vleon> so what should i do?
[09:28] <Nomaggiz> mnoir: afterwards, logout/reboot is no prob
[09:28] <mnoir> Nomaggiz: no - i mean after the d/l end
[09:28] <Nomaggiz> riotkittie: yeah, hide ;)
[09:28] <Nomaggiz> of course
[09:29] <metal04> Hansel : ok, what am I looking for now?
[09:29] <Hansel> metal04 - once you have added the ones you want in there type CTRL X then Save.  Then you will need to type      sudo apt-get update    to sync apt-get locally with all of the new repositories
[09:29] <Hansel> metal04 - I'm not sure which repository has wine in it... if you want I can post my sources.list on a pastebin site for you
[09:29] <mnoir> !wine
[09:29] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:29] <minimec> Is there an mldonkey user in outer space? ;)
[09:29] <riotkittie> ok back to my question of the day
[09:29] <vleon> !text install
[09:29] <mnoir> !info wine
[09:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about text install - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:29] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB
[09:29] <TorontoPsycho> g
[09:29] <vleon> !alternate install
[09:29] <riotkittie> surely, tty font is defined somewhere. any idea where?
[09:30] <SHADOW_X> hello alecjw
[09:30] <jpjacobs> vleon, log in , and press esc to get into the grub kernel selection (if that is'nt the ccase) and then press e on the kernel you want to boot, and add single to the boot line, the B to boot the line
[09:30] <vleon> jpjacobs: what
[09:30] <vleon> ?
[09:30] <SHADOW_X> alecjw: apparently i cant pm you  because i am not registered
[09:30] <alecjw> SHADOW_X: hi.i sent you a message in a pm, then you signed off
[09:30] <vleon> i cant log in
[09:30] <slop> what's the gnome equivalent of k3b?
[09:30] <gkjones> any 1 struck a system taking ages on a 427 bootup # then continuing with the boot
[09:30] <jpjacobs> vleon, i know.
[09:30] <metal04> Mnoir, Hansel: So if I understand correctly this should me in universe repository
[09:30] <vleon> i dont know how that is the problem
[09:31] <alecjw> SHADOW_X: can you pastebin what the fwcutter says plz?
[09:31] <mnoir> i believe so
[09:31] <SHADOW_X> alecjw:  yes so i could go on linux i was on windows at the current time
[09:31] <riotkittie> elaborate on "cant login"
[09:31] <SHADOW_X> alecjw: sure h/o can you link me again please
[09:31] <jpjacobs> vleon, if you use the single bootoption, you'll be dropped to a rootshell, then you can just add the user, and give him a pass
[09:31] <alecjw> SHADOW_X: ok
[09:31] <vleon> ohhh
[09:31] <Hansel> metal04 - well if you think your sources.list is accurate then exit out of the text editor and    sudo apt-get update
[09:31] <riotkittie> synaptic and apt-get have ruined me
[09:31] <vleon> but why wasnt a user added?
[09:32] <Hansel> riotkittie - lol.
[09:32] <metal04> Hansel, Mnoir: I have a line with : "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe" should that be enough
[09:32] <Moon_Rabbits> I have a folder set to "owner: root > create aand ddelete files", and "group: users > create and delete files", but for some reason I can still only use that folder if I am using the root account or 'sudo', why?
[09:32] <Hansel> looks good metal04 - when you try to apt-get install wine what error do you get?
[09:32] <jpjacobs> vleon, dunno, bad earth rays :p
[09:33] <mnoir> metal04: i think so...
[09:33] <hagabaka> can I use python 2.5 instead of 2.4 for programs that use python?
[09:33] <Hansel> Moon_Rabbits - you can chmod 766 it if you want everybody to read/write to it...
[09:33] <SHADOW_X> alecjw: can you give me the link again please
[09:33] <riotkittie> slapt-get and g-slapt are improvements over netpkg but leave something to be desired ;p
[09:33] <mnoir> hagabaka: prolly - just renenber incase they do not work that that might be the reason
[09:33] <Moon_Rabbits> Hansel: What exactly does that do?
[09:33] <hagabaka> when install python 2.5 and remove 2.4, it looks like KDE and wesnoth will be automatically removed
[09:33] <alecjw> SHADOW_X: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174&
[09:33] <dimitri_> has anybody hosted a web page from there PC using dynDNS... im having trouble understanding. thanks
[09:34] <hagabaka> but python-support said python >= 2.4..
[09:34] <Hansel> Moon - man chmod... it changes the permissions on files/folders.  766 means the owner can wrx, the group can rw, and everybody else can rw
[09:34] <metal04> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:34] <metal04> Hansel : That's the error message I get : "This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:34] <metal04> is only available from another source
[09:34] <metal04> E: Package wine has no installation candidate"
[09:34] <mnoir> hagabaka: you installing 2.5 from non ubuntu repository?
[09:34] <Hansel> metal04 - k... lemme post my sources.list for you... hold
[09:35] <srbaker> folks
[09:35] <vleon> so i press e
[09:35] <srbaker> is there a "laptop compatibiltiy" sheet for ubuntu?
[09:35] <riotkittie> anyone use xubuntu?
[09:35] <vleon> and the d?
[09:35] <hagabaka> i think it's from the official repository
[09:35] <srbaker> one that lists things like how well suspend/resume works, etc?
[09:35] <phr34ck> guys, how can I get involved in Ubuntu, like how can I make programs? I'm pretty good in C++ and Java and I want to do applications.
[09:35] <mnoir> riotkittie: some folks that hang out in #xubuntu prolly do
[09:35] <riotkittie> srbaker, yes there is. its in the documentation on the site somewhere
[09:35] <pwuertz> hi, anyone knows why my mouse cursor disappears? when loading a website using firefox... or starting an application... the mouse cursor should switch to a loading/waiting-state... but instead, it disappears completely until the loading process is done
[09:35] <srbaker> phr34ck: read up on writing Gnome apps with C++ and/or java.
[09:35] <iSE> I cannot install ubuntu, I have Windows XP on my C drive and it won't let me resize the partition
[09:36] <phr34ck> srbaker, my application will be DE specific?
[09:36] <mnoir> iSE: who is "it"
[09:36] <magic_ninja> hello. for some reason my cdrom only reads cds that I have burned, it won't read game cds, audio cds or anything other than burned cds.  Do you guys have any ideas I believe there is a problem somewhere within my OS's hardware configuration
[09:36] <Moon_Rabbits> Hansel: Alright, sounds like it will work. But, mostly just because I'm curious and would like to figure my way around better, why doesn't it work right now? I have the permissions set to "users: create/delete files" and this account is part of the 'users' group, but it still doesn't work?
[09:36] <phr34ck> there is no general programming so it can run on  both KDE and GNOME ?
[09:36] <vleon> vleon, log in , and press esc to get into the grub kernel selection (if that is'nt the ccase) and then press e on the kernel you want to boot, and add single to the boot line, the B to boot the line
[09:36] <vleon> what do i add?
[09:36] <vleon> and what do i want to boot?
[09:36] <riotkittie> yeah, i kinda figured people in #xubuntu would use ubuntu
[09:36] <riotkittie> err xubuntu
[09:36] <SHADOW_X> alecjw:  this is what it is saying
[09:36] <Darkhack> phr34ck, KDE uses Qt as its GUI framework while GNOME uses GTK+.  Both KDE and GNOME can run each others applications.
[09:37] <jpjacobs> the first one, and add "single" to the line
[09:37] <srbaker> riotkittie: i'm having some trouble finding it
[09:37] <Hansel> metal04 - paste this list into yours... http://pastebin.com/853731
[09:37] <SHADOW_X> alecjw: sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware ~/Desktop/bcmwl5.sys
[09:37] <phr34ck> Darkhack, I see.
[09:37] <SHADOW_X> Sorry, the input file is either wrong or not supported by bcm43xx-fwcutter.
[09:37] <SHADOW_X> I can't find the MD5sum b89bcf0a25aeb3b47030ac83287f894a :(
[09:37] <Jowi> magic_ninja, try from another OS or a live-cd. if the problem is there in other os's it is probably your cdrom drive that is faulty
[09:37] <phr34ck> Anyone experienced in these stuff in here? I have no idea on where to start.
[09:37] <srbaker> aha
[09:37] <riotkittie> srbaker, > ok  let me fire up my browser and see if i can locate it
[09:37] <srbaker> got it
[09:37] <iSE> When i try to resize the C partion in the ubuntu installation program to about 75GB (I am using 16GB of 150) so I can format that using the ext3 filesystem and install ubuntu
[09:37] <srbaker> LaptopTestingTeam on the wiki
[09:37] <srbaker> riotkittie: thanks :)
[09:37] <srbaker> riotkittie: got it :)
[09:37] <rayed> I've installed ubuntu on single sata drive fine, but want GRUB to see windows on a RAID0 array, any way to edit GRUB post-install? GRUB is on single SATA.
[09:38] <Darkhack> phr34ck, All that is required is that they have the GUI framework installed.  IE: An Ubuntu user may need to install some kdelibs in order to run some applications but they will run in GNOME just fine.
[09:38] <RancidLM> how do i flush my DNS settings?
[09:38] <magic_ninja> Jowi: can i mount a cd with a live cd, i only hav eone cdrom drive
[09:38] <vleon> can someone help? it took me more that  a hour to install ubuntu only to find out that i cant log in :\
[09:38] <mnoir> !install | iSE have you been here?
[09:38] <ubotu> iSE have you been here?: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:38] <phr34ck> Darkhack, I see.
[09:38] <Hansel> RancidLM - you mean your own DNS server?  Explain "flush your own DNS settings"
[09:38] <phr34ck> will see what I will come up with.
[09:38] <iSE> thanx, installing isnt the problem at the moment tho, its resizing my ntfs drive
[09:38] <Jowi> magic_ninja, that should be possible (i don't know about ubuntu live cd but DSL or perhaps Knoppix should be able to)
[09:38] <alecjw> SHADOW_X: dont use bcmwl5.sys or whatever, use wl_apsta.o instead (http://boredklink.googlepages.com/wl_apsta.o)
[09:39] <neutrinomass> Hi. I want to connect my tv to the computer (video in) and capture various programs. Is that what MythTV is for?
[09:39] <iSE> its because i have 4 bad sectors
[09:39] <elbeto> hi guys
[09:39] <Hansel> hi elbeto
[09:39] <RancidLM> Hansel: my cached DNS.. for example windows:C:\>ipconfig /flushdns
[09:39] <iSE> !install
[09:39] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:39] <mnoir> iSE: well that certainly has nothing to do with installing - good luck
[09:39] <elbeto> One question, how can I make VLC the default player?
[09:39] <jpjacobs> vleon, doesn't the single thing work?
[09:39] <SHADOW_X> alecjw: k
[09:39] <vleon> i didnt understand the single thing :)
[09:40] <phr34ck> Hansel, right clikc and choose "Repair"
[09:40] <phr34ck> it will flush and do all the work for you
[09:40] <phr34ck> wait, nevermind.
[09:40] <elbeto> One question, how can I make VLC the default player?
[09:40] <phr34ck> that was for Microsoft Windows.
[09:40] <vleon> maybe if you explain more preciesly and with brackets in places that i need to write and commands to execute
[09:40] <Jowi> !defaultapp
[09:40] <ubotu> To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[09:40] <iSE> what do u recommend then? I use the liveCD to boot ubuntu in order to install, tho it doesnt seem to mount any hard drives and won't let me either so i can't do anything with them
[09:40] <phr34ck> !Nautilus
[09:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Nautilus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:41] <SHADOW_X> alecjw: bcm43xx-fwcutter can cut the firmware out of /home/jose/Desktop/wl_apsta.o
[09:41] <SHADOW_X>   filename :  wl_apsta.o
[09:41] <SHADOW_X>   version  :  3.130.20.0
[09:41] <SHADOW_X>   MD5      :  e08665c5c5b66beb9c3b2dd54aa80cb3
[09:41] <SHADOW_X> extracting bcm43xx_microcode2.fw ...
[09:41] <SHADOW_X> extracting bcm43xx_microcode4.fw ...
[09:41] <SHADOW_X> extracting bcm43xx_microcode5.fw ...
[09:41] <SHADOW_X> extracting bcm43xx_microcode11.fw ...
[09:41] <Music_Shuffle> !pastebin
[09:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:41] <SHADOW_X> *****: Sorry, it's not possible to extract "bcm43xx_microcode13.fw".
[09:41] <SHADOW_X> *****: Extracting firmware from an old driver is bad. Choose a more recent one.
[09:41] <SHADOW_X> *****: Luckily bcm43xx driver doesn't include microcode11 uploads at the moment.
[09:41] <SHADOW_X> *****: But this can be added in the future...
[09:41] <Jowi> SHADOW_X, use pastebin
[09:41] <SHADOW_X> extracting bcm43xx_pcm4.fw ...
[09:41] <Music_Shuffle> ....
[09:41] <SHADOW_X> extracting bcm43xx_pcm5.fw ...
[09:41] <SHADOW_X> extracting bcm43xx_initval01.fw ...
[09:41] <Music_Shuffle> Stoppppppppppppppp
[09:41] <SHADOW_X> extracting bcm43xx_initval02.fw ...
[09:41] <mnoir> iSE: just a theory - i'd go  to the common problems link i already gave you
[09:41] <SHADOW_X> extracting bcm43xx_initval03.fw ...
[09:41] <SHADOW_X> extracting bcm43xx_initval04.fw ...
[09:41] <Jowi> !ops
[09:41] <SHADOW_X> extracting bcm43xx_initval05.fw ...
[09:41] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[09:41] <hjmills> !paste | SHADOW_X
[09:41] <SHADOW_X> extracting bcm43xx_initval06.fw ...
[09:41] <ubotu> SHADOW_X: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[09:41] <SHADOW_X> extracting bcm43xx_initval07.fw ...
[09:41] <SHADOW_X> extracting bcm43xx_initval08.fw ...
[09:41] <Music_Shuffle> Thanks.
[09:41] <Jowi> thanks
[09:41] <Music_Shuffle> @ nalioth
[09:41] <hjmills> phew
[09:41] <jpjacobs> vleon, boot the PC, then you get into a menu right where you can select which kernel to boot?
[09:41] <phr34ck> what's the difference between .tar.gz and .tar.bz2 ?
[09:42] <Seveas> phr34ck, gzip versus bzip2 compression
[09:42] <rayed> I've installed ubuntu on single sata drive fine, but I want GRUB to see windows on a RAID0 array, any way to edit GRUB post-install or do I need to be clever mid install so GRUB can see raid pair as single drive? GRUB is on single SATA.
[09:42] <nalioth> phr34ck: the compressor used
[09:42] <Hansel> phr34ck: for a tar.gz you    tar -zxvf     for a bz2 you     tar -jxvf
[09:42] <SHADOW_X> sorry
[09:42] <nalioth> !tell SHADOW_X about pastebin
[09:42] <mnoir> !bz2
[09:42] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[09:42] <mnoir> phr34ck: ^^^
[09:42] <Quinn> hey Jowi thanks for your help yesterday! At first my graphics wouldn't boot after modifying it, but fortunatly I took a bit of time and reset up my xorg which fixed it all
[09:43] <Xechor> I have an ATI Rage 128 Pro Ultra TF card. I attempted some other fixes to get X to load, and now I've gotten it to recognize the screen. I still, however, get the "No Screens Found" error because "Unable to find valid framebuffer device". Any help?
[09:43] <SHADOW_X> alecjw: sorry about that
[09:43] <phr34ck> is it the same as .rar and .zip files ?
[09:43] <SHADOW_X> alecjw: did yousee what was wrong
[09:43] <Hansel> phr34ck - kind of.. just different compression algorithms
[09:43] <Hansel> bz2 is better compression than tar.gz
[09:43] <mnoir> phr34ck: all different compressions
 vleon, boot the PC, then you get into a menu right where you can select which kernel to boot?
[09:43] <nalioth> SHADOW_X: use a pastebin, and bring us the URL
[09:43] <vleon> yeah i know how to do that
[09:43] <Jowi> no problem Quinn, glad I could help
[09:43] <vleon> i even know what grubs is :)
[09:43] <phr34ck> Hansel, yeah that's what I meant with my questions. Thanks.
[09:43] <jpjacobs> vleon, can i IM you?
[09:43] <alink1000> I really can't find this archive thing, and I've tried a lot of things.
[09:43] <g> hello...
[09:43] <vleon> yes
[09:44] <tiffany123> Hi
[09:44] <chinasky> hello, i have installed mythtv and when i try to run the backend i get this error:  Perhaps you have forgotten to bind video sources to your card's inputs?"" Thank you
[09:44] <alink1000> I downloaded that p7zip from the synaptic package manager.
[09:44] <alecjw> SHADOW_X: i couldnt really see it, spead accross so many lines. can you pastebin it instead (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org)
[09:44] <alink1000> but I still can't extract it.
[09:44] <neutrinomass> Hi. I want to connect my tv to the computer (video in) and capture various programs. Is that what MythTV is for?
[09:44] <mnoir> alink1000: how did you run the extract?
[09:45] <tiffany123> How can I tell my ubuntu that it should use NO WEP KEY for the wlan device ? There are only option for ascii and hexadecimal. If I choose one of them and insert no key it doesnt work
[09:45] <alink1000> I right clicked and clicked "Extract here".
[09:45] <mnoir> what happened
[09:45] <mnoir> ?
[09:45] <alink1000> then it came up with "Archive type not supported."
[09:45] <g> hello, could someone tell me the min.requirements for "PC (Intel x86) alternate install CD", please?
[09:45] <phr34ck> hey, is it worth upgrading to Gnome 2.16 ?
[09:45] <SHADOW_X> alecjw: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/775/ did i do it right
[09:45] <gkjones> any1 got a leadtec winxp tv card sucessfully get a signal in kbuntu
[09:46] <Quinn> xechor: try using the kernel buffer, if you look in your xorg there is an option for it
[09:46] <pablo_> hello, it doesnt works the wireless
[09:46] <justin_> How can I make a second hard drive which I added after installing Ubuntu .. mount with write access to users automatically on start up without being needed to mount it manually everytime?
[09:47] <jpjacobs> vleon, see IM
[09:47] <justin_> And also.. how can I format this drive, do I simply format /mnt?
[09:47] <alink1000> kind of in a hurry, so...
[09:47] <Hansel> justin - /etc/fstab
[09:47] <Quinn> Anyone know how to properly set up color management with a ICCprofile? Iam a graphic designer and cannot fully switch form windows yet because I can't find any info on how to set this up. kinda my last thing to take care of.
[09:47] <justin_> Thank you very much Hansel
[09:47] <alecjw> SHADOW_X: that error always happens. just ignore it. try configuring the wireless connection in sytem>>administration>>networking
[09:48] <Hansel> justin - alternatively you could edit one of your etc/init.d scripts to mount it
[09:48] <Hansel> ie; mount /dev/hdaX
[09:48] <justin_> :) Hansel If I wish to format it same thing .. lets say -- format /media/whatever?
[09:48] <Hansel> and if you want it ntfs or whatever...
[09:48] <pablo_> hello, it doesnt works the wireless pcmcia, although it is all rightly configured
[09:48] <justin_> No it's an EXT3 disk
[09:48] <Hansel> justin - man fstab
[09:48] <SHADOW_X> alecjw: there is no wireless there
[09:49] <vleon> jpjacobs do you get my answers?
[09:49] <hjmills> what port does bitlbee run on?
[09:49] <vleon> cause the server writes me something like this every time i write you back: Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[09:49] <cybercod> !register
[09:49] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[09:49] <ScreaminIke> what is the command to auto-config x?
[09:49] <Hansel> hjmills: netstat -an
[09:49] <Chest> Can you manually add applications to the Gnome Launcher?
[09:49] <jpjacobs> vleon, nope.
[09:50] <vleon> ohh thats explains stuff :)
[09:50] <alecjw> SHADOW_X: ah yes. you have to remove all traces of ndiswarppaer. "sudo aptitude purge ndiswrapper", then remove the line "blacklist bcm43xx" from the file /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[09:50] <Cyllene> Hey. Does anyone know why gnome gets stuck at "Window Manager" When it tries to start after logging in? I am using feisty.
[09:50] <vleon> im withyou this far
[09:50] <Hansel> ScreaminIke:  - xorgsetup
[09:50] <vleon> now what? (you can write me in private ill answer here...)
[09:50] <Rabble_> when I went to the help file to find my other HD it told me to go to the "disks" window, but when i went to find it, it wasnt there
[09:50] <Quinn> Cyllene - what wm and graphics driver you using?
[09:51] <winston> justin, is the new hdd formatted already?
[09:51] <christiane> Hello. I upgraded from Dapper to Edgy today and now I cannot start vncserver anymore. There was an error msg that twn could not be found so I installed it. Then I got font errors, so I created /etc/vnc.conf containing the font vars as shown in http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/VNC -- but still got the font error. How to do that on Edgy?
[09:51] <ScreaminIke> xorgsetup doesn't work, hansel
[09:51] <riotkittie> perhaps because youre uhhh using gnome on feisty?
[09:51] <vleon> jpjacobs: ok i press e to edit right?
[09:51] <Cyllene> Quinn: I am using the official nvidia drivers with Xorg.
[09:51] <hjmills> what port does bitlbee run on?
[09:51] <SHADOW_X> alecjw: i dont have that in my black list
[09:51] <Xechor> " (Quinn) xechor: try using the kernel buffer, if you look in your xorg there is an option for it" :::: I'm a newb. Is that configurable from dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg process?
[09:51] <metal04> Is it me or the WINE download package is down?
[09:51] <rayed> Hi, I'm hoping to get my new Ubuntu install to see a raid array on a Silicon Image controller which has WIndows installed so grub gives me the option to boot into it.Is this something I can alter post-install in grub? Thanks
[09:51] <Hansel> how about X -xf86config   ???
[09:52] <madman__> to allow a port to access the linux machine for bittorents, do i modify the hosts.allow with the ip + port?
[09:52] <Hansel> metal04 - after updating your sources.list did you   sudo apt-get update?
[09:52] <alecjw> SHADOW_X: you should have added it when you set up ndiswrapper
[09:52] <Hansel> madman__ that as well as iptables
[09:52] <Hansel> assuming iptables is in use
[09:52] <Cyllene> Quinn: Any ideas?
[09:52] <Hansel> iptables = local software firewall
[09:52] <SHADOW_X> alecjw:  hmm maybe thats why ndiswrapper didnt work
[09:52] <madman__> i dont use iptables yet
[09:52] <madman__> they are default :S
[09:52] <riotkittie> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:52] <metal04> Yes but when I look at it I get a 404 not found message when trying to get the wine thing
[09:52] <Hansel> madman___  see if it is in use without yoru knowledge  :)    iptables -L
[09:52] <SHADOW_X> alecjw: should i try ndiswrapper or just reboot it should work now right?
[09:52] <vleon> jpjacobs : i press e to edit the ubuntu line, and then e again to dit the root line?
[09:53] <madman__> i know its working
[09:53] <madman__> i did not have the time to say i did not know how :(
[09:53] <riotkittie> hm. GUY WITH THE GNOME PROBLEM - sorry but i lost the nick -- are you on a laptop by any chance?
[09:53] <Cyllene> riotkittie: no
[09:53] <Troy_McClure> anyone have a moment to help me troubleshoot why i can't read an NTFS Sata partition?
[09:53] <Quinn> Cyllene- I'm really no expert here but I would say to try reconfiguring your xorg using the command "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[09:53] <Troy_McClure> it used to work... now it doesn't
[09:53] <riotkittie> ok. then my suggestion is irrelevant
[09:53] <alecjw> you could try that. but jsut to make sure, what does the command "cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist | grep bcm43xx" say?
[09:53] <scherfa> Hello, since yesterday my soundcard didn't work anymore. Everyone else with that problem ?
[09:53] <madman__> so i need to modify iptables + hosts.allow?
[09:54] <riotkittie> Cyllene - have you ever been able to load it on feisty?
[09:54] <Cyllene> Quinn: I believe its a gdm problem, not xorg
[09:54] <riotkittie> or is this a new install ?
[09:54] <Cyllene> riotkittie: new.
[09:54] <Hansel> madman__ - I would take that approach... hosts.allow isn't completely necessary unless you are using xinetd and want more granular access configurations.
[09:54] <alecjw> scherfa: sytem>>prefences>>sound and then try fiddling with the menu at the top. when you've fgound somethigh that works, change all of them to the same thing
[09:54] <madman__> k i will figure it out :)
[09:54] <riotkittie> Cyllene, i'm clueless, sorry
[09:54] <vleon> jpjacobs then what line?
[09:54] <Quinn> Cyllene - hmm sorry Ireally don't know, I'm fairly new
[09:55] <metal04> Hansel : This is the Eroor message I can see when I do sudo apt-get update
[09:55] <metal04> Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/edgy/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
[09:55] <metal04> Failed to fetch http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/edgy-seveas/backports/binary-amd64/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
[09:55] <metal04> Reading package lists... Done
[09:55] <Hansel> is it just me or does the Barbeque sandwich snacker from KFC taste like ass?
[09:55] <Troy_McClure> !help
[09:55] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:55] <Seveas> metal04, those don't exist for amd64
[09:55] <Hansel> metal04 - thats not good  :(
[09:55] <scherfa> alecjw: No the settings are ok. It worked a long time .. but after the update yesterday the sound didn't work anymore ...
[09:55] <metal04> O.O
[09:55] <Cyllene> Hansel: It does taste like crap
[09:55] <metal04> What?
[09:55] <riotkittie> is there anything at KFC that doesnt taste like ass, Hansel ?
[09:55] <rayed> Troy can you see it in /dev/
[09:56] <Hansel> riotkittie:  I like their famous bowls and popcorn chicken.
[09:56] <Cyllene> Get the buffalo snacker
[09:56] <riotkittie> wait. except the potato wedges. those are yum yum yum.
[09:56] <Hansel> Cyllene:  thats what I am eating... buffalo/barbeque snacker... it is awful. The sauce is making me want to cut off my tongue
[09:56] <Cyllene> Hansel: Famous bowls? You meanm their buckwt of goo?
[09:56] <jpjacobs> vleon, i'm not at my ubuntu box for the moment, i think the one where the kernel get specified
[09:56] <Hansel> Cyllene: yes!!!!!
[09:56] <metal04> Seveas: So I can't use wine with my AMD64? So I won't be able to play World of Warcraft?
[09:56] <Hansel> bucket of goo... mmmmm <3
[09:56] <Seveas> metal04, correct
[09:56] <hjmills> is this even working with my sudden lag of 30 seconds?
[09:56] <Cyllene> Hansel: BBQ != buffalo
[09:56] <metal04> :'(
[09:56] <Seveas> Hansel, quit the offtopic talk please
[09:56] <riotkittie> hjmills, is what even working ?
[09:57] <Quinn> I propose there be an Open-source resteraunt with chicken
[09:57] <Hansel> Seveas - sorry... just had to point out how awful that was.  </offtopic>
[09:57] <nivanson> metal04: Almost all players playing WoW on wine and cedega got banned some time ago cuz the security program in WoW (Warden) was not allowed to run.
[09:57] <vleon> jpjacobs hh i think i got it, then what?
[09:57] <Quinn> I'll contribute some recipies and cook on weekends
[09:57] <Cyllene> Seveas: Do you know how to fix my problem?
[09:57] <Seveas> !offtopic | Quinn
[09:57] <ScreaminIke> i just got the ATI All-in-Wonder 2006 Edition AGP4x/8x card. what do i need to install/do to have gui? i'm in bash right now. no x at all.
[09:57] <ubotu> Quinn: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:57] <alecjw> Hansel: there's #ubuntu-offtopic and #ubuntuforums for ubuntu chat
[09:57] <Quinn> lol ubotu
[09:57] <vleon> jpjacobs it booted to a sudo command line
[09:57] <Quinn> ok ok
[09:57] <metal04> Nivanson : oh...  rly?  That sucks!
[09:57] <daishadar> oh
[09:57] <hjmills> Hansel: thanks
[09:58] <rayed> hello
[09:58] <Hansel> hi rayed
[09:58] <nivanson> metal04: Yeah, I would suggest you don't try it if you care for your account. Search the web for cedega ban wow and you will find it.
[09:58] <vleon> jpjacobs ut i suck at command line can you specify the commands i need to execute?
[09:58] <Riyonuk> Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? Whats that mean?
[09:58] <g> what are the min.requirements for UBUNTU 6.06, please??
[09:58] <Cyllene> Riyonuk: That means you need to learn to use a computer.
[09:58] <Seveas> g, depends on what you want
[09:58] <Cyllene> g: You need a computer.
[09:58] <riotkittie> sudo dpkg
[09:58] <Music_Shuffle> Cyllene, ....
[09:58] <Riyonuk> -_-
[09:58] <Hansel> g - I'd run it on a minimum of 486 with 64 MB of RAM... with NO GUI...
[09:58] <Music_Shuffle> Riyonuk, update manager?
[09:59] <Riyonuk> wha?
[09:59] <Hansel> anything less and you are going to pull your hair out, though it may technically work.
[09:59] <vleon> jpjacobs i already did that and it booted to terminal
[09:59] <rayed> Hansel, can you help with a raid problem? I want grub to see a striped raid array on which is a windows install, the ubuntu one is on a seperate sata drive
[09:59] <hjmills> Riyonuk: it means you are trying to run apt-get twice or have synaptic/upgrade manager runnig as well as apt-get
[09:59] <alecjw> Hansel: cubuntu might be to you liking hten :)
[09:59] <madman__> !iptables
[09:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[09:59] <g> ok, thanks
[09:59] <riotkittie> Riyonuk, > did you prefix whatever command you used with sudo?
[09:59] <SHADOW_X> alecjw: so am i ready to reboot?
[09:59] <jpjacobs> vleon, so you are sure the user doesn't exist? otherwise try passwd user
[09:59] <n2diy> Riyonuk: it means you are trying to open a second package manager, when one is already open.
[09:59] <czedlitz> LiveCD booted, but the resolutions is 640x480, but screen resolution doens't have any other options... how can i enlarge it to 800x600 so i can do the install ?
[09:59] <ctp> hi folks. i'm coming from gentoo, so i'm looking for the solution how to let start services automatically booting the pc (like postgress). something like 'rc-update add postgresql default' in gentoo ;-)
[09:59] <Music_Shuffle> Riyonuk, You can't run update manager/apt-get and/or synaptic at the same time.
[09:59] <nivanson> g, if you want to run full graphical gnome, you will want around 256mb RAM or more. your HD will be enough dont worry
[09:59] <Riyonuk> -_-
[09:59] <alecjw> !cubuntu Hansel
[09:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cubuntu Hansel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:59] <Riyonuk> All im running is a terminal and xchat
[09:59] <alecjw> !cubuntu | Hansel
[09:59] <ubotu> Hansel: cubuntu is an unofficial command-line based Ubuntu derivative. It includes a browser, an email client, a media player and many other useful applications. For installation instructions, see http://alecjw.googlepages.com/cubuntu-commandlineubuntu
[09:59] <rayed> Can I edit grub or do I need to reinstall using a driver for the array?
[09:59] <Hansel> alecjw - I'm not interested in another distribution.. I was giving a recommendation for minimum boxen to run Ubuntu on...
[09:59] <hjmills> ctp: i think its update-rc.d
[10:00] <ctp> hjmills: ok. thx
[10:00] <alecjw> Hansel: oh. sorry.
[10:00] <n2diy> Riyonuk: So where did that message come from?
[10:00] <Riyonuk> the terminal
[10:00] <christiane> Hello. I upgraded from Dapper to Edgy today and now I cannot start vncserver anymore. There was an error msg that twn could not be found so I installed it. Then I got font errors, so I created /etc/vnc.conf containing the font vars as shown in http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/VNC -- but still got the font error. How to do that on Edgy?
[10:00] <alecjw> SHADOW_X: yep. fingers crossed :)
[10:00] <Music_Shuffle> Riyonuk, it could be running in the background or tray...checked?
[10:00] <SHADOW_X> alecjw: K
[10:00] <jpjacobs> vleon,  did that spawn an error?
[10:00] <Riyonuk> just volume is in the tray
[10:00] <mikeconcepts> Jowi, are you thre? I have the answer to using bery with x11vnc
[10:01] <vleon> jpjacobs i tride passwd with couple of users
[10:01] <mikeconcepts> put -noxdamage with the command to run x11vnc
[10:01] <riotkittie> !console
[10:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about console - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:01] <nivanson> Anybody running NetworkManager in GNOME here? I am having some trouble with it. I am using my wireless but it's manually configures. My wireless card (bcm4318 using ndiswrapper) doesn't even show up in the NetworkManager.
[10:01] <Jowi> mikeconcepts, sounds like fun. :)
[10:01] <vleon> jpjacobs only root suggested to change the password
[10:01] <TurboLover> hey seeing as dapper drake and the ne wrelease sucks my ass and doesnt work with my lcd screen or gfx card, which one should i go with?
[10:01] <metal04> Alright then...  I'll have to cry myself to sleep a few days to get over World of Warcraft...  but I had to quit anyways!
[10:01] <riotkittie> gah. i will do what i should have done like three hours ago and google
[10:01] <n2diy> Riyonuk: So you where sitting there chatting, and the message popped up out of the blue?
[10:01] <vleon> jpjacobs but root is always enabled
[10:01] <mikeconcepts> Jowi, it works!
[10:01] <nalioth> TurboLover: please watch your language
[10:01] <Jowi> mikeconcepts, fill me in. what is needed?
[10:01] <nalioth> vleon: root where?
[10:01] <Music_Shuffle> metal04, :(
[10:01] <Riyonuk> n2diy, maybe...no, trying to install and it gives me an error
[10:02] <jpjacobs> vleon, well then you prolly really don't have other users. maybe try "less /etc/passwd" and look for a user you may have accidently added.
[10:02] <vleon> i pressed passwd root
[10:02] <hjmills> TurboLover: try edgy and get your gfx card working then your screen will work - what is the gfx card?
[10:02] <TurboLover> radeon 9200 se
[10:02] <jpjacobs> vleon, hit ctrl-c, you don't want to give root a passwd
[10:02] <n2diy> Riyonuk: Maybe...no? What where you trying to install?
[10:02] <hjmills> TurboLover: that should work with the radeon open source driver
[10:02] <StraightShootinC> turbolover good luck i had same card
[10:02] <metal04> Anyone here can help me get some codecs for totem to be able to watch my DivX, Wmv, Rmp stuff?
[10:02] <p_masho> anyone know how I enable tomboy or put it on the taskbar ?
[10:02] <mikeconcepts> Jowi, ok, will fetch the exact link I found, but basically when you run x11vnc just add the switch -noxdamage, simple as that
[10:02] <TurboLover> right well i see the bootup ubuntu screen
[10:03] <TurboLover> but when i do startup
[10:03] <TurboLover> it lags
[10:03] <TurboLover> then goes to a really ugly screen
[10:03] <nalioth> vleon: enabling a root pass in Ubuntu can lead to breakage
[10:03] <nalioth> !tell vleon about root
[10:03] <Riyonuk> A program you guys dont like :p
[10:03] <TurboLover> like ascii colored menu screen
[10:03] <TurboLover> i look at log sand ti says screens not found
[10:03] <riotkittie> uh.
[10:03] <Troy_McClure> i am stumped... my fstab is set correctly, ubuntu sees my drive, it just won't read it...
[10:03] <StraightShootinC> Turbolover... is this a fresh install?
[10:03] <Hansel> !tell hansel about root
[10:03] <jrib> p_masho: right click on the panel and add it
[10:04] <TurboLover> yes
[10:04] <n2diy> Riyonuk: Oh well, you were warned. :)
[10:04] <Riyonuk> You know dont you :p
[10:04] <Jowi> mikeconcepts, trying to find it in man x11vnc
[10:04] <Music_Shuffle> lol
[10:04] <vleon> jpjacobs /etc doesnt have a passwd folder
[10:04] <TurboLover> i downloaded the livecd and burned its image to a disc and booted up to it
[10:04] <riotkittie> what program dont we like?
[10:04] <n2diy> ! automatix | Riyonuk
[10:04] <ubotu> Riyonuk: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:04] <StraightShootinC> Turbolover       so you're in the liveCD now?
[10:04] <czedlitz> LiveCD booted, but the resolutions is 640x480, but screen resolution doens't have any other options... how can i enlarge it to 800x600 so i can do the install ?
[10:04] <TurboLover> no
[10:04] <TurboLover> i am not
[10:04] <Riyonuk> Yeah, Im not going to install it
[10:04] <TurboLover> i got frustrated and installed mandriva
[10:04] <riotkittie> ah.
[10:04] <StraightShootinC> you've not installed yet?
[10:04] <jpjacobs> vleon... whoa... you got yourself a pretty borked system.
[10:04] <Jowi> mikeconcepts, ah, got it. will try it out
[10:04] <TurboLover> i couldnt install!
[10:04] <vlad_ri> hello, everybody!
[10:05] <n2diy> Riyonuk: Ok, I gotta go, cul.
[10:05] <vlad_ri> i've installed nvidia drivers for my video card, it works good. but there is a problem, each time i restart the machine or make a log off / log on, the refrash rate is changing to 60 Hz and i have to adjust it. how can i solve that? the worst thing, i put a modline in the Monitor section which reads: ""1280X1024@85" 157.5 1280 1344 1504 1728 1024 1025 1028 1072 +hsync +vsync" and there is a Option line in Screen section: "metamodes"
[10:05] <vlad_ri> "1280x1024@85 +0+0; 1280x1024 +0+0". Nothing else in the whole xorg.conf related to refrash ratio... where could be the problem?
[10:05] <jrib> czedlitz: does it prevent you from installing?  I'll send you instructions, but I would just fix it after the install completed
[10:05] <TurboLover> when i select start ubuntu from the livecd i get the error screen
[10:05] <mikeconcepts> Jowi, http://bugs.beryl-project.org/ticket/385
[10:05] <TurboLover> saying no screens found
[10:05] <vleon> jpjacobs ell the only solution is to reinstall?
[10:05] <jpjacobs> vleon, if that even doesn't exist, who knows what else could be wrong... i'd consider a reinstall.
[10:05] <StraightShootinC> Turbolover  of course.... sorry... just woke up here....  have you tried to change the driver from "ati" to "radeon" or vice versa?
[10:05] <jrib> !fixres | czedlitz
[10:05] <ubotu> czedlitz: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:05] <jpjacobs> maybe it is fixable, but with some cli tricks.
[10:05] <vleon> jpjacobs shit, it takes a while on pentium 3 :\
[10:05] <PriceChild> How do I remake /etc/fstab ?
[10:05] <rayed> Is raid taboo around here?
[10:05] <TurboLover> straight: uhh, i cant even get into anything
[10:05] <vleon> ohh well
[10:05] <metal04> Anyone knows about video codecs?
[10:06] <czedlitz> jrib, yes it does, i can't hit the Next button on the isntaller
[10:06] <jpjacobs> vleon, let's just try to add a user, and get you back into gui.
[10:06] <vleon> jpjacobs thank you very very much for trying to help, atleast i learned something new
[10:06] <vleon> jpjacobs never mind ill just reinstall using oem
[10:06] <StraightShootinC> TurboLover... you've got command line, right?  are you on broadband?  If so you can still edit your xorg.conf
[10:06] <czedlitz> jrib, nvm i got it
[10:06] <vleon> jpjacobs bye thanx
[10:07] <linuxnewuserr> can anyone please help a linux newb? I had to reinstall ubuntu adn the partition took windows xp off, so I have no windows now butI want to learn linux anyway and i can't adjust my display drivers, I don't know how to install bins or tars
[10:07] <Jowi> mikeconcepts, yep. works fine. I would never know to use that option even after reading the man page for it. thanks for letting me know!
[10:07] <czedlitz> jrib, xorg was using some tx..something for Device and i just changed it to Vesa and it's all set
[10:07] <jrib> linuxnewuserr: in general you will want to install everything from synaptic
[10:07] <czedlitz> jrib, thanks though
[10:07] <TurboLover> straight: i dont know what i need to do with the xorg.conf
[10:07] <TurboLover> pretend im new
[10:07] <jrib> czedlitz: great
[10:07] <StraightShootinC> ok... turbo.. no problem
[10:07] <mikeconcepts> Jowi, I never forget a helping hand
[10:07] <TurboLover> and i dont have dreams about editign an obscure text file at the command line
[10:08] <StraightShootinC> You got a 2nd PC? or will you have to do this on the machine you're currently on?
[10:08] <jrib> linuxnewuserr: what are you trying to install exactly?
[10:08] <linuxnewuserr> flash
[10:08] <linuxnewuserr> realplayer
[10:08] <linuxnewuserr> eventually ati drivers
[10:08] <TurboLover> eh this is my only machine
[10:08] <linuxnewuserr> for the x1950
[10:08] <TurboLover> hold on for a second
[10:08] <linuxnewuserr> my screen is a 19 widescreen
[10:08] <linuxnewuserr> it's all packed in on here
[10:08] <linuxnewuserr> so ubuntu looks like crap
[10:09] <jrib> !enter | linuxnewuserr
[10:09] <ubotu> linuxnewuserr: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:09] <nivanson> Anybody here using Broadcom 4318?
[10:09] <jrib> !restricted | linuxnewuserr
[10:09] <ubotu> linuxnewuserr: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:09] <StraightShootinC> Turbolover    no problem, you're just going to need to write some stuff down.
[10:09] <Troy_McClure> anyone able to help me? i cannot access a sata NTFS parition, it mounts properly, even shows how much remaining space, but will not read it
[10:09] <jrib> linuxnewuserr: the restricted wiki has isntructions for flash and realplayer
[10:09] <jrib> !ati | linuxnewuserr
[10:09] <ubotu> linuxnewuserr: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:09] <jrib> Troy_McClure: is it a permissions problem?
[10:10] <TurboLover> okay and what is that
[10:10] <Troy_McClure> i have it set to all users in my fstab
[10:10] <Troy_McClure> so it shouldn't be,
[10:10] <jrib> Troy_McClure: what error do you get?
[10:10] <StraightShootinC> ok.. when it comes up and tells you it can't find any screens, it'll probably dump you at a login prompt or else ubuntu@ubuntu$
[10:10] <Jowi> mikeconcepts, you're lucky. i am good connecting names to faces but terrible with names in general if I have nothing but text to go after. runs in the family that disability.
[10:11] <TurboLover> yes
[10:11] <Troy_McClure> The folder contents could not be displayed.
[10:11] <TurboLover> can you send this to me in msg straight>
[10:11] <adorablepuppy> Hello.
[10:11] <jrib> Troy_McClure: where is it mounted?
[10:11] <Troy_McClure> Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of "sda1".
[10:11] <TurboLover> that way i can see and write down what you say
[10:11] <SHADOW_X> alecjw: hello it didnt work ndiswrapper didnt really uninstal
[10:11] <LinTux> I have just installed Google Earth and the graphics keep scrolling, anybody know a cure?
[10:11] <StraightShootinC> if it does ask you to login, just put in ubuntu... there is no password
[10:11] <adorablepuppy> Is there any way to make the super key open the applications menu?
[10:11] <user01> hi i tried to run a sh install script with sudo sh install.sh and when i did it it said /home/user does not belong to you . . . what do i need so i can install my program?
[10:11] <StraightShootinC> ok... i just registered so I dunno if the PM will work... one sec
[10:11] <Troy_McClure> at /media/sda1
[10:11] <jrib> Troy_McClure: prefix what you say to me with my name please or I'll go crazy trying to keep up :P
[10:12] <linuxnewuserr> is there a program for ubuntu that will install bins and tars automatically for me?
[10:12] <jrib> Troy_McClure: can you 'cd /media/sda1' in a terminal?  What does that say?
[10:12] <linuxnewuserr> i don't know how to compile
[10:12] <mikeconcepts> Jowi, naw, you're as good, I just have logging turned on in xchat, and looked up who the kind person was that helped me with the beryl/x11vnc issue
[10:12] <jrib> linuxnewuserr: no
[10:12] <linuxnewuserr> and these tutorials are confusing as heck
[10:12] <linuxnewuserr> crap
[10:12] <jrib> linuxnewuserr: you shouldn't need to compile anything
[10:12] <user01> linuxnewuserr: you should try other distributions :)
[10:12] <Troy_McClure> jrib: i can CD to the location, but as soon as i do an ls i get an ls: reading directory .: Input/output error
[10:12] <alecjw> SHADOW_X: then i dunno what to do if neither ndiswrapper or the firmware work. sorry :(
[10:13] <linuxnewuserr> user01:  ubuntu was recommended to me
[10:13] <hjmills> gah - the world evidently doesnt want me to use google talk or msn today
[10:13] <linuxnewuserr> as a new person to linux
[10:13] <jrib> linuxnewuserr: what do you want to install that you think you need to compile?
[10:13] <user01> linuxnewuserr: yep i guess i would too
[10:13] <linuxnewuserr> tar?
[10:13] <jrib> linuxnewuserr: the program "tar"?
[10:13] <Jowi> mikeconcepts, that's cheating. but I will start to do the same I think :)
[10:13] <user01> linuxnewuserr: also linux distros require some tinkering
[10:13] <LinTux> Man I love LINUX
[10:13] <linuxnewuserr> I will love it
[10:13] <mikeconcepts> Jowi, until I do Jowi, works for me :)
[10:14] <linuxnewuserr> when i know how to do stuff on it
[10:14] <cyris> im trying to write a script that makes a bunch of linux accounts, my only problem is that passwd prompts for a password and a confirm password, how can i send a default password to this?
[10:14] <linuxnewuserr> lol
[10:14] <Troy_McClure> jrib: this is the entry in my fstab /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ntfs rw,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[10:14] <LinTux>  I have just installed Google Earth and the graphics keep scrolling, anybody know a cure?
[10:14] <NoEvidenZ> Ever stay out all night? It's 8am, I just got home. I was at a friend's house playing Risk. So awesome.
[10:14] <jrib> Troy_McClure: when was the last time this drive worked?
[10:14] <NoEvidenZ> Night of my life!
[10:14] <adorablepuppy> Just in case nobody heard me the first time, In GNOME is there any way to get the super key to open the applications menu?
[10:15] <jrib> adorablepuppy: yes, system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[10:15] <jpjacobs> adorablepuppy, alt-f1
[10:15] <Troy_McClure> seems randomly after an update it quit, i did have to reinstall my MBR though, but yes, it works fine under windows
[10:15] <user01> linuxnewuserr: if you dont like to set your watch or program your tivo, linux probably isnt the way to go :)
[10:15] <PriceChild> Can someone tell me how to regenerate an /etc/fstab please?
[10:15] <Riyonuk> When trying to open syanptic, I get the error "Unable to get exclusive lock"
[10:15] <adorablepuppy> jpjacobs, jrib, thank you.
[10:15] <linuxnewuserr> user cut the crap
[10:15] <linuxnewuserr> i just came over from windows
[10:15] <jpjacobs> Riyonuk, it means apt is already working
[10:15] <Moon_Rabbits> What is the location of "Computer"? I mean, how do I navigate to it in the Filesystem
[10:15] <hjmills> !language | linuxnewuserr
[10:15] <ubotu> linuxnewuserr: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:15] <Riyonuk> Where though?
[10:15] <Riyonuk> I dont see it
[10:15] <Riyonuk> I just logged in and back out
[10:16] <jrib> Moon_Rabbits: What do you mean by "Computer"?  Your file system starts at / and branches from there
[10:16] <Riyonuk> Can I kill the process?
[10:16] <Moon_Rabbits> I mean "Places -> Computer", when I look at the top bar in the File Browser it says it's location is "computer:///
[10:16] <Troy_McClure> jrib: yeah... i am very confused, seems like it was after an update of some sorts, but i can't see how that would matter all that much
[10:16] <jpjacobs> Riyonuk, it can be updatemanager, working in the background. use ps ax|egrep (apt|dpkg) to see wheter apt or dpkg is running
[10:16] <hjmills> jrib: he means in nautilus where there is computer under the places menu
[10:17] <jrib> Moon_Rabbits: that's a special nautilus thing, it doesn't correspond to a particular directory afaik
[10:17] <user01> linuxnewuserr: you can get mac os for intel computers if you want a corporate nix
[10:17] <jpjacobs> Riyonuk, you can kill a proces with kill <pid> (pid found with ps)
[10:17] <Riyonuk> Nothing happened
[10:17] <Moon_Rabbits> jrib: Do you know why my second drive doesn
[10:17] <rayed> Is there a way during or after install to help grub to see a striped raid array on a silicon image controller so the windows install sitting on it can be added as a boot option please?
[10:17] <Riyonuk> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `apt'
[10:17] <Moon_Rabbits> 't appear there?
[10:17] <jrib> Moon_Rabbits: is it mounted in /media?
[10:18] <Moon_Rabbits> jrib: I was told that anything mounted in /media/.. gets put there.
[10:18] <Moon_Rabbits> Yeah, it is.
[10:18] <jpjacobs> right the it should be "(apt|dpkg|update)" sorry
[10:18] <Riyonuk> wait..what
[10:18] <jpjacobs> with the  ""
[10:18] <Riyonuk> :D so confused
[10:18] <minerale> I'm doing `ssh -X some.host` but once I SSH in $DISPLAY is not set, what is the default $DISPLAY value when one does ssh -X ?
[10:18] <rogue780> does anyone know if there is a way to make the sound card output higher besides adjusting the volume...I know that sounds weird, but I'm doing audio out to a TV and it is markedly quieter than anything else I have plugged into it, and it's quite annoying
[10:18] <Riyonuk> oh
[10:18] <jpjacobs> otherwise bash tries to interpret the ()
[10:18] <hjmills> rogue780: run alsamixer in a console
[10:18] <Aggort2> Would having the jumper on the hard drive in the wrong setting cause my boot sequence to be wrong?
[10:18] <hjmills> rogue780: and turn the TV up :D
[10:18] <Moon_Rabbits> jrib: Is there anything in /etc/fstab I have to edit in order for it to show up in the Places->Computer?
[10:18] <Riyonuk> jpjacobs, I get 4 numbers
[10:19] <LinTux> Does Ubuntu support PCI Express video cards
[10:19] <madman__> any good place to find wallpapers
[10:19] <hjmills> LinTux: well mine works wonderfully!
[10:19] <MasterShrek> Aggort2 it shouldnt, unless one drive isnt getting recognized and some of your operating system is on it
[10:19] <user01> how do i run sh install script as root if i have a linux program to install?
[10:19] <hjmills> madman__: gnome-look.org
[10:19] <LinTux> hjmills: thanks m8
[10:19] <czedlitz> ok i updated my Dapper box to Edgy using the package manager, and now when the machine boots, GDM tries to start and it flickers a bunch then stops and i can no longer use the machine unless i SSH into it from my other computer
[10:19] <madman__> thx
[10:19] <MasterShrek> user01 run:   sh install.sh
[10:19] <hjmills> user01: sudo install.sh
[10:19] <czedlitz> any ideas?
[10:19] <cmweb> On the live cd: how can i make it to where it will not load power management, it is killing the pc im installing ubuntu on (250MHZ processor and 64 MB ram)
[10:19] <vlad_ri> how can i configure my system to turn on NumLock every time i log on?
[10:19] <hjmills> vlad_ri: use numlockx
[10:19] <rogue780> hjmills, the problem is when I turn the tv up loud enough, it's almost maxed out and the speakers have a buzz to them
[10:19] <Riyonuk> jpjacobs, so no what?
[10:19] <Aggort2> What is the FDD cable is for?
[10:19] <cool-freak> hi,I have a big problem,i have no sound on my laptop
[10:19] <cool-freak> :s
[10:20] <user01> hjmills: when i do it as sudo it tells me my home directory is not mine
[10:20] <jpjacobs> Riyonuk, kill the ones you don't like :p
[10:20] <Toko> I have a bigger problem
[10:20] <cool-freak> can anywone help me?
[10:20] <hjmills> rogue780: then alsamixer will let you change the output level for that particular output
[10:20] <Riyonuk> all of them?
[10:20] <Toko> My gnome won't even boot
[10:20] <jpjacobs> or wait for them to end
[10:20] <LinTux> Anywhere where I can get a driver for my Nvidia PCI Express card
[10:20] <mikeconcepts> PriceChild, http://four.fsphost.com/gradgrind/larch/larch_live_details.html this guy has a script
[10:20] <jpjacobs> with top you can see which processes are actually busy.
[10:20] <vlad_ri> hjmills: what is numlockx?
[10:20] <hjmills> user01: then do "sudo su" and when you are root then run install.sh without sudo
[10:20] <Moon_Rabbits> Does anyone know why my mounted drive isn't showing up in Places->Computer, even though it's mounted to /media/drive-two?
[10:20] <jrib> Moon_Rabbits: I'm not sure.  What does you fstab line look like?  Have you made sure it's not an issue of just being "refreshed" (ie maybe logging out and back in to test)?
[10:20] <user01> hjmills: thanks
[10:20] <Toko> sudo su?
[10:21] <Toko> I just type su
[10:21] <hjmills> user01: but you want to install from repos where possible
[10:21] <PriceChild> mikeconcepts: thanks
[10:21] <hjmills> Toko: oh ok
[10:21] <Stonekeeper> hello. Does anyone know how to get Network Manager to save wpa keys and auto join on boot? thanks
[10:21] <hjmills> vlad_ri: its a program to turn on numlock when you start - search the forums for it - im afraid im outta here!
[10:21] <brettlee> How do I report Broken Packages? How can I help to fix?
[10:21] <hjmills> Bye all!
[10:21] <cmweb> On the live cd: how can i make it to where it will not load power management?
[10:21] <Moon_Rabbits> jrib: My fstab entry for the drive is "/dev/hda1 /media/drive-two defaults 0 0"
[10:22] <jrib> Moon_Rabbits: where's the type?
[10:22] <Riyonuk> jpjacobs, its not working "kill <pid> 4827
[10:22] <Toko> I'll be even more annoying, What's with login hanging on "The Panel" then outputting "There was an error starting Gnome Settings Daemon" then it either freezes or barely works at all, and wont' for Beryl at all
[10:23] <Moon_Rabbits> jrib: oops, I forgot to type that, but its ext3 (this is already listed in fstab, i forgot to type it in the chat)
[10:23] <jpjacobs> remove the <pid> you where supposed to fill that in ;)
[10:23] <rayed> Ok another - can I ssh through one computer to another rather than to one then on to the other?
[10:23] <Troy_McClure> jrib: just did an fdisk -l and apparently my sda1 shows a SFS file system....
[10:23] <Troy_McClure> it never was that before
[10:23] <cmweb> Any one got an answer or command for my problem?
[10:24] <jpjacobs> Riyonuk, got them killed?
[10:24] <brettlee> How do I report Broken Packages? How can I help to fix? The package is libapache2-mod-mono.
[10:24] <linuxnewuserr> I am trying to install the ati drivers from my desktop, do I have to specify it  when I use the sudo command in bash?
[10:25] <Jowi> rayed, yes. of course. all you need is the ip address of the computer running the ssh server.
[10:25] <NoEvidenZ> !bugs
[10:25] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[10:25] <bepogi> Hello.  Does anyone know why the quit button doesn't work sometimes and I am forced to power down my computer via the switch?  What can cause that lost functionality.
[10:25] <jrib> Troy_McClure: I'm not really sure what your error means.  I would check for anything meaningful in 'dmesg' too
[10:25] <NoEvidenZ> !bugs > brettlee
[10:25] <cmweb> !powermanagment
[10:25] <jrib> Moon_Rabbits: did you check if it shows up after logging out and back in?
[10:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about powermanagment - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:26] <madman__> each time i load firefox he keeps old webpages, like he cannot close sessions is there a way to reset that?
[10:26] <Moon_Rabbits> jrib: No e.e; I'll do that now~!
[10:26] <rayed> Thanks Jowi, I have a gateway pc on the network that the router points to, then I ssh from that to my own pc - so I can just forward to it?
[10:26] <SHADOW_X> Hello can anyone help me with my wireless card its not working
[10:26] <NoEvidenZ> cmweb: I'm not sure if you can change the start up settings on the live cd
[10:26] <brettlee> ok...it'll be my first time...thanks!
[10:26] <NoEvidenZ> SHADOW_X: Join the club.
[10:26] <Toko> Shadow, it matters what brand
[10:27] <Toko> etc
[10:27] <Toko> What type is it?
[10:27] <cmweb> noevidenZ,  some one told me to press f6 then type in acpi=off one time for this problem but it did not work
[10:27] <SHADOW_X> well its a dell laptop
[10:27] <Toko> built in
[10:27] <Toko> ?
[10:27] <elyon225> I'm having difficulty enabling Direct Rendering for my Radeon.  I followed the instructions on the Ubunut Wiki (including reconfiguring xserver), but no luck.  Anyone?
[10:27] <SHADOW_X> no its the upgraded
[10:27] <Jowi> rayed, the router should take care of the routing. if both the computers are connected to the same router there is nothing for you to configure. just "ssh user@ipaddress"
[10:27] <SHADOW_X> but yes on the board
[10:27] <NoEvidenZ> cmweb: where were you when you typed it?
[10:27] <SHADOW_X> its broadcom
[10:28] <cmweb> noEvidenz, on my old compaq desktop
[10:28] <Toko> I've used an expansion card before
[10:28] <Troy_McClure> jrib: NTFS-fs error (device sda1): ntfs_end_buffer_async_read(): Buffer I/O error, logical block 0x19605bf1.
[10:28] <NoEvidenZ> !wifi > SHADOW_X
[10:28] <SHADOW_X> Broadcom BCM4321(?) (rev 01)
[10:28] <Toko> I'm not sure about onboard wireless hardware
[10:28] <Troy_McClure> jrib: sda1: rw=0, want=425745395, limit=409600000
[10:28] <Toko> You have the module for the driver loaded and everything correct?
[10:28] <christiane> SHADOW_X: Try installing ncm43xx-fwcutter and run the shell skript
[10:28] <SHADOW_X> i did that
[10:28] <christiane> SHADOW_X: Try installing bcm43xx-fwcutter and run the shell skript
[10:29] <SHADOW_X> but didnt work
[10:29] <cmweb> noevidenz, at the beginging of the cd, in the boot
[10:29] <SHADOW_X> christiane, would you like to help me try again
[10:29] <jrib> Troy_McClure: I can't tell you what that actually means, I'd check that the drive is ok on a different OS
[10:29] <christiane> SHADOW_X: What does dmeg say when modprobing bcm43xx?
[10:29] <NoEvidenZ> cmweb: Well then i've got no idea. I'm honestly not terribly good with Linux. Sorry. :P
[10:29] <SHADOW_X> christiane, i could try again
[10:30] <SHADOW_X> christiane, how do i do that
[10:30] <Troy_McClure> jrib: it is... looks to me like it is trying to read beyond its actually size... hmph....
[10:30] <Riyonuk> jpjacobs, so how exactly do I kill it?
[10:30] <LinTux> I am trying to install an Nvidia driver and it tells me that I am using an X Server and to stop it before installing, how do I stop it and then restart it?
[10:30] <cmweb> Any one? i only got 64 MB to playwitth here
[10:30] <Toko> restart x server
[10:30] <Toko> ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:30] <christiane> SHADOW_X: type `lsmod | grep bcm`
[10:30] <whadar> !inotify
[10:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inotify - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:30] <Riyonuk> jpjacobs, no, I dont know how
[10:31] <nivanson> SHADOW_X: I just completed a new edgy install but I used ndiswrapper for BCM4318. What is your exact card?
[10:31] <christiane> SHADOW_X: Is bcm43xx loaded?
[10:31] <LinTux> how do stop X server
[10:31] <whadar> anyone can help with inotify?
[10:31] <pagefault> type
[10:31] <pagefault> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:31] <pagefault> then start
[10:31] <pagefault> or you can restart
[10:31] <jpjacobs> Riyonuk, so you got the process id's out of the ps thing right? now just do sudo kill number1 number2 ....
[10:32] <SHADOW_X> nivanson, Broadcom BCM4321(?) (rev 01)
[10:32] <SHADOW_X> nivanson, thats my card
[10:32] <jpjacobs> LinTux, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:32] <LinTux> How can I stop X Server
[10:32] <SHADOW_X> christiane, how do i know if bcm is loaded
[10:32] <pagefault> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:32] <christiane> SHADOW_X: type `lsmod | grep bcm`
[10:32] <jpjacobs> first :)
[10:32] <Toko> Anyone know how to fix the gnome freezing error on edgy, just updated and I get a "There was an error starting Gnome Settings Daemon" and it basically freezes.
[10:32] <Riyonuk> jpjacobs, care to tell me how?
[10:32] <Jowi> cmweb, are you using the live, or alternate cd?
[10:32] <nivanson> SHADOW_X: Then I suggest you use ndiswrapper for it. The bcm43xx is buggy for *18 still. bcm4318 ndiswrapper @ google and you will find help good luck!
[10:33] <rayed> Jowi, incoming ssh is pointed from the router to PC1 - I set it like that for security. At present I ssh to PC1, then from it on to PC2 - but that means 2 lots of processor overhead for PC1 doesn't it? Is there a way to extend the ssh connection to PC2? Or am I being breathtakingly stupid and it is already just doing that?
[10:33] <jpjacobs> well like i tell you enter 'kill number1 number2 number3 ...<whtever you want to kill'
[10:33] <Jowi> rayed. are these computers inside the same LAN / IP range?
[10:33] <petepete> anyone know how i can change my PCs bluetooth name from the default bluez ?
[10:33] <rayed> Both computers are on the same local network, yes
[10:33] <jpjacobs> add sudo to that. and don't type in the ... and the rest that follows
[10:34] <SoulCHild> hey can anyone help me: my ubuntu boots 3 times longer if my ac adapter is plugged in, on battery it works perfect... (centrino processor) any ideas?
[10:34] <christiane> SHADOW_X: ndiswrapper is the way I run my bcm4311 on Dell, maybe bcm4321 works ... If you try the ndiswrapper way you probably have to compile the latest ndiswrapper from source.
[10:34] <jpjacobs> and the numbers are the numbers in the first column of the output of 'ps ax|egrep "(apt|dpkg|update)"'
[10:34] <christiane> How do I enable java for firefox?
[10:35] <Toko> YOu need to get the JRE
[10:35] <Jowi> rayed, the router is only redirecting traffic coming in from the outside to one of the PC's that you specify. inside the LAN the router only need to redirect traffic, not route it per se. it works like a switch.
[10:35] <nivanson> christiane: Why compile it? Just install ndiswrapper-common and ndiswrapper-tools-1.8
[10:35] <Aggort2> What does cable select mean? Heh, it's been awhile.
[10:35] <Toko> not sure about enabling in FireFox
[10:35] <jpjacobs> christiane, there is a package for the browser plugin in apt.
[10:35] <Flannel> !java | christiane
[10:35] <ubotu> christiane: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[10:35] <SHADOW_X> christiane, how do i do that or if you have a complete guide or something
[10:35] <Toko> I used Automattix2 to install javas tuff
[10:35] <Toko> *java stuff
[10:35] <Xechor> Unable to find valid framebuffer device. Xubuntu Edgy with a ATI Rage 128 Pro Ultra TF.
[10:35] <Flannel> Toko: please don't recommend automatix
[10:35] <ubuntu__> hi
[10:36] <Aggort2> I have a hard drive set up as master with slave but the bios is not finding the slave.
[10:36] <SoulCHild> HEY: how can i deactivate speedstep_centrino?
[10:36] <Toko> Never, did just said I used it.
[10:36] <jpjacobs> SoulCHild, sudo rmmod speedstep_centrino
[10:36] <adorablepuppy> ! My s or p key aren't working in X anymore.
[10:36] <ubuntu__> Aggort2:  jumper setting chked?
[10:36] <Jowi> rayed, for example. My computer in france want to ssh into your computer in, let's say brazil. my request goes to your router that see "oh, an incoming ssh connection. i forward this to 192.168.0.5". when you ssh to a computer inside your own LAN the router just pass on the information.
[10:36] <SHADOW_X> so anyone how would i setup ndiswrapper with my bcm4321 card
[10:36] <SoulCHild> jpjacobs: speedstep_centrino is in use
[10:36] <jerp> Aggort2, you can't go into the bios?
[10:36] <Jowi> brb
[10:36] <christiane> nivanson: I only got 125kbit with ndiswrapper 1.8
[10:36] <Toko> Well, I'll just ask my question on forum a little more
[10:36] <ubuntu__> SHADOW_X:  hi
[10:37] <SHADOW_X> hi
[10:37] <ubuntu__> ndiswrapper -i win-driver.inf
[10:37] <jpjacobs> SoulCHild, then (i'm not too sure) do sudo /etc/init.d/powersaved stop
[10:37] <Aggort2> Yes, jumpers checked, and yes I can get into the bios but the bios is not finding the slave..
[10:37] <christiane> Flannel: Thank you. i already installed the jre pkg, but ff doesn't make use of it ...
[10:37] <nivanson> christiane: I see, well that is low. I am running at 180KB/s right now. with 1.8 =S
[10:37] <jpjacobs> SoulCHild, and then the rmmod thing
[10:37] <nivanson> christiane: (that is my max speed too ;))
[10:37] <SoulCHild> jpjacobs: it is still in use
[10:37] <ubuntu__> Aggort2:  all wires firmly in place?
[10:37] <rayed> Jowi I think I understand - so the connection is just moved from say 192.168.0.5 to 192.168.0.8  - the connection is then between the outside and the latter computer anyway?
[10:38] <ubuntu__> Aggort2:  does slave make any sound like a clik?
[10:38] <wkerzend> Im running ubuntu dapper on my laptop. somehow windows managed to crash my grub into errpr 15. I solved that problem by reinstalling grub. now I get error 17. I have a boot partition on dev/hda3 and the root on /dev/hda5 please help
[10:38] <Aggort2> Yeah. What do I need to set the jumpers to if I want two hard drives to be detected? No, the slave doesn't click.
[10:38] <rayed> Jowi So I can use a really slow PC as my gateway
[10:38] <jpjacobs> SoulCHild, i don't really know what could be using it. look into running processes and services, and into the output of lsmod (it lists dependancies between mdoules)
[10:39] <Aggort2> Do I need to set the master hard drive to master with slave present and the slave to cable select?
[10:39] <SoulCHild> jpjacobs: okay i ll try thanks
[10:39] <jpjacobs> np
[10:39] <ubuntu__> Aggort2:  yes
[10:39] <SHADOW_X> i tried to do the ndiswrapper but i get this error
[10:39] <SHADOW_X> couldn't copy win-bcmwl5.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper-1.8 line 144.
[10:39] <christiane> How to enable an installed sun-java5-jre pkg in Firefox?
[10:39] <madman__> i am searching for a popular system monitoring, for cpu, disk and other info
[10:39] <madman__> not gkreill
[10:39] <madman__> gkrellm
[10:39] <jrib> christiane: install sun-java5-plugin
[10:39] <jpjacobs> christiane, like i said there is a plugin in synaptic.
[10:39] <ubuntu__> SHADOW_X:  copy the drivers first to ur $HOME folder then try
[10:39] <christiane> SHADOW_X: You need the windows driver for ndiswrapper
[10:40] <ubuntu__> run the command as root
[10:40] <Aggort2> Ubuntu__: Thanks very much.
[10:40] <SoulCHild> jpjacobs: could it be gnome_power_manager?
[10:40] <jimmyk> anyone know why my Network Monitor v2.12.0 is showing that my signal strength is 0, when I'm sure it is good
[10:40] <Xechor> Unable to find valid framebuffer device. Xubuntu Edgy with a ATI Rage 128 Pro Ultra TF.
[10:40] <ubuntu__> Aggort2:  god luck
[10:40] <jpjacobs> yeah, that could verywell be it
[10:40] <SHADOW_X> i do have the winodws driver
[10:40] <ubuntu__> good*
[10:40] <ubuntu__> SHADOW_X:  on home folder?
[10:41] <SHADOW_X> now it is
[10:41] <ubuntu__> what bout java?
[10:41] <wkerzend> Im running ubuntu dapper on my laptop. somehow windows managed to crash my grub into errpr 15. I solved that problem by reinstalling grub. now I get error 17. I have a boot partition on dev/hda3 and the root on /dev/hda5 please help
[10:41] <jpjacobs> np
[10:41] <ubuntu__> SHADOW_X:  now try to install it
[10:41] <SHADOW_X> now it says already installed
[10:41] <SHADOW_X> now what
[10:41] <christiane> jrib, jpjacobs: Thanks, it works.
[10:41] <SHADOW_X> dont i have to black list it somewhere
[10:41] <ubuntu__> i dont think so
[10:41] <ubuntu__> not sure though
[10:42] <christiane> SHADOW_X: `rmmod bcm43xx`
[10:42] <snowwoolf> Last night I upgraded an old machine I use without X as a firewall to Edgy.  I have mirrored HDs in it, one IDE and one SCSI, using md.  Since the upgrade, every time it boots it boots it looses the SCSI drive in the RAID-1.  It re-adds back fine.  Also, the second NIC, and Intel EtherExpress Pro 100, isn't seen by the OS, until I remove the driver and reload it.  Can anyone help?
[10:42] <christiane> SHADOW_X: `rmmod ndiswrapper`
[10:42] <christiane> SHADOW_X: `modprobe ndiswrapper`
[10:42] <kane77> h3xis, are you here?
[10:42] <Aggort2> Ubuntu__: It didn't find it, should I set both to cable select?
[10:42] <christiane> SHADOW_X: `ndiswrapper -l`
[10:43] <h3xis> kane77, yes
[10:43] <SHADOW_X> none of those commands worked
[10:43] <Riyonuk> How come when updating synaptic, it always fails the translation en_us?
[10:43] <kane77> h3xis, have you looked at the picture I sent yesterday?
[10:43] <ubuntu__> Aggort2:  both should not be same
[10:43] <h3xis> yeah, let me find it. or if you have the link on hand
[10:44] <Josh0403> hello?
[10:44] <h3xis> kane77, i got it
[10:44] <kane77> h3xis, sec...
[10:44] <SoulChild> jpjacobs: there is nothing in lsmod what is using speedstep_centrino
[10:44] <StraightShootinC> Aggort!!!
[10:44] <kane77> h3xis, is it possible to do with standard routers?
[10:44] <h3xis> kane77, im not sure what youre doing in the before
[10:45] <StraightShootinC> is that you from yesterday?
[10:45] <StraightShootinC> I am cybercod
[10:45] <christiane> SHADOW_X: `ndiswrapper -l` Output?
[10:45] <jimmyk> anyone know why Network Monitor v2.12.0 would be showing that my signal strength is 0% when I'm sure it is good
[10:45] <h3xis> kane77, your main source of internet is wireless?
[10:45] <kane77> h3xis, yes
[10:45] <h3xis> kane77, gotcha. i see what youre doing now
[10:45] <SHADOW_X> bcmwl5          driver installed, hardware present
[10:45] <SHADOW_X> win-bcmwl5      invalid driver!
[10:46] <h3xis> kane77, give me a second to look in my router's firmware to see if it can be done
[10:46] <kane77> h3xis, ok
[10:46] <h3xis> kane77, youre wanting one antenna to receive data and the other to forward it
[10:46] <h3xis> kane77, right?
[10:46] <bruenig> how do you open a deb, I don't want to install it, I want to open it and look at its contents
[10:46] <kane77> h3xis, yes that's right
[10:46] <christiane> SHADOW_X: "invalid driver" doesn't sound that good ...
[10:46] <SoulChild> ARGHHH: I am going crazy!!! :( is there noone having the same problem, that the notebook boots much faster without ac adapter plugged in???? THIS SUCKS
[10:46] <Bryan`> is there a quick and easy way to resize a few partitions without messing up my installation?  namely my /boot partition
[10:46] <h3xis> kane77, alright one sec
[10:47] <ubuntu__> SHADOW_X: what happens when u run ifconfig
[10:47] <jewbilee> How can refresh my screen like switching to a projector, whenever I press, Fn+CRT/LCD it doesnt do anything
[10:47] <Josh0403> Hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu on my pc and I went out and got a brand sew 80 gig hard drive just for it, but I get an error "Failed to stqart the Xserver (your graphical interface). It is likely that is is not set up correctly. Would you like to view Xserver output to diagnose the problem" and it is frozen up so i cant choose yea or no.
[10:47] <SoulChild> I tested 30 different linux distributions and always the same... it drives me crazy, really...
[10:47] <Bryan`> or is it a normal thing to still have /boot on its own small partition?
[10:47] <madman__> help, when i open firefox, i got two webpages that opens, even if i close them and i stop firefox, i restart it they come back
[10:48] <madman__> any ideas
[10:48] <Josh0403> I have an integrated nvidea gforce 4 and a pci ati readeon 9250
[10:48] <h3xis> kane77, i think i got it
[10:48] <riotkittie> oooh much better
[10:48] <h3xis> kane77, let me take a screen
[10:48] <StraightShootinC> wow... josh0403... i didn't realize the 9250 came in pci... i thought pci stopped at 7000
[10:48] <jewbilee> How can refresh my screen like switching to a projector, whenever I press, Fn+CRT/LCD it doesnt do anything
[10:49] <ubuntu__> madman__: hi
[10:49] <enry183> googd night !!!
[10:49] <ubuntu__> madman__:  2 pages?
[10:49] <madman__> yeah
[10:49] <Josh0403> let me check the box to make sure, StraightShootinC
[10:49] <enry183> good night!
[10:49] <madman__> http://export
[10:49] <ubuntu__> madman__: ok do this
[10:49] <ubuntu__> goto firefox opetion
[10:49] <jpjacobs> !laptop>jewbilee
[10:49] <madman__> http://www.xlib_skip_argb_visuals=1.com/
[10:49] <ubuntu__> option*
[10:49] <SHADOW_X> ubuntu__, just gives me etho and lo
[10:50] <ubuntu__> choose use blank page
[10:50] <jewbilee> jpjacobs, doesnt look like uboto is in here
[10:50] <ubuntu__> !wlan0
[10:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wlan0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:50] <jewbilee> !laptop
[10:50] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[10:50] <ubuntu__> SHADOW_X:  try ifconfig up wlan0
[10:50] <Josh0403> Yep ati radeon 9250 pci
[10:50] <madman__> they still open :s
[10:50] <pagefault> you can get a geforce 6200 in pci as well
[10:51] <jpjacobs> ubotu botsnack
[10:51] <ubotu> Yum!
[10:51] <jpjacobs> !laptop
[10:51] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[10:51] <SHADOW_X> ubuntu__, wlan0: Unknown host
[10:51] <SHADOW_X> ifconfig: `--help' gives usage information.
[10:51] <jpjacobs> there you go
[10:51] <SHADOW_X> ?
[10:51] <Josh0403> so does anyone know how to fix the error?
[10:52] <SoulChild> anyone on a centrino processor?
[10:52] <pagefault> you mean a pentium-m
[10:52] <pagefault> centrino is a certification
[10:52] <SoulChild> yes
[10:52] <kamelo> a
[10:52] <ubuntu__> SHADOW_X:  ok
[10:52] <SoulChild> yesa pentium m
[10:52] <ubuntu__> SHADOW_X:  chk in lsmod | more
[10:52] <ubuntu__> do u see ur card?
[10:53] <juano> Josh0403:
[10:53] <h3xis> kane77, still there?
[10:53] <madman__> ubuntu_ i found my mistakes
[10:53] <juano> Josh0403: you have problems with Xserver?
[10:53] <ubuntu__> madman__: what was it?
[10:53] <markelhas> how can i set cups to verbose mode?
[10:53] <Josh0403> Yes
[10:53] <juano> Josh0403: did you install nvidia drivers?
[10:53] <madman__> i edited the /usr/bin/firefox filed and misplaced some commands to make the flash bug stop :(
[10:53] <riotkittie> ooh. i miss nick completion
[10:53] <miniman> I tried to mount my linux partition in windows, and it messed up my linux partition and GRUB, now I can't boot into either OS. Is there a way I can fix this without having to format everything?
[10:53] <ubuntu__> madman__: heh
[10:53] <riotkittie> riot: riot- riot;
[10:54] <madman__> sorry
[10:54] <ubuntu__> madman__:  good luck ;)
[10:54] <riotkittie> bummer.
[10:54] <juano> Josh0403: check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change driver: "nv" to driver "nvidia"
[10:54] <StraightShootinC> miniman... what did you try to mount it with?
[10:54] <riotkittie> miniman >> how did you attempt to mount this?
[10:54] <ubuntu__> miniman: hi
[10:54] <miniman> through a free program
[10:54] <Josh0403> My monitor isn't plugged into my nvidia port and the integrated nvidia geforce4 isn't even installed
[10:54] <SHADOW_X> ubuntu__, how do i know if i see my card and i know i have to get drivers for it because linux still doesnt see it but if i do the search for like broadcom it is here
[10:54] <miniman> ill find it out quick
[10:54] <ubuntu__> ext2fsd?
[10:54] <miniman> yes
[10:54] <miniman> yes thats it
[10:54] <rayed> Thanks Jowi btw, bye
[10:54] <Aggort2> What jumper should I send the master to and what jumper should I send the slave to because I can't get the slave to pick up?
[10:55] <riotkittie> miniman > do you have a ubuntu live disc ?
[10:55] <SoulChild> HI.... how can i deactivate speedstep_centrino????
[10:55] <pianoboy3333> I'm running ubuntu edgy, can anyone help print to a HP LaserJet 1000 connected to another XP machine on my network?
[10:55] <StraightShootinC> lemme guess... you tried to make it come up automatically
[10:55] <miniman> im in ubuntu live disc right now
[10:55] <kane77> h3xis, sorry... computer has been taken by my dad...
[10:55] <SimonLoftus> Evening all
[10:55] <kane77> h3xis, but I'm back
[10:55] <pagefault> SoulChild: stop powernowd
[10:55] <juano> Josh0403: wich card are you using?
[10:55] <StraightShootinC> miniman
[10:55] <Valmarko> Is it safe to remove exim4 ? Is this procedure going to interfere with automatic security updates from Ubuntu.
[10:55] <snowwoolf> Where is the best place to ask about a RAID problem after upgrading to Edgy?  I already Googled and read everything I could find relating to the problem.
[10:55] <SoulChild> pagefault: i ll try
[10:55] <StraightShootinC> you tried to make it come up automatically
[10:55] <riotkittie> Aggort << you resolve your cd problem yet?
[10:55] <SimonLoftus> riotkittie, hiya
[10:55] <h3xis> kane77, is this what you want: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/h3xis/cap.jpg
[10:55] <Josh0403> juano:  I'm using the ati 9250
[10:56] <SimonLoftus> riotkittie, remember that weird bumbumdum sound I was hearing?
[10:56] <Josh0403> its pci
[10:56] <SoulChild> pagefault: unknown job powernowd
[10:56] <miniman> josh: having problems with ATI 9250? if so PM me
[10:56] <pagefault> hmm
[10:56] <juano> have you installed the drivers for it? Josh0403
[10:56] <Aggort2> Riotkittie: Yes, I did today, I found out it was a combination of MBR fix and fixing my jumper
[10:56] <pagefault> sudo /etc/init.d/powernowd stop
[10:56] <StraightShootinC> miniman.. check pm.... i had this problem two weeks ago
[10:56] <miniman> k
[10:56] <riotkittie> Aggort >> cool! i am glad to hear that
[10:56] <kane77> h3xis, do all (most) of the routers have 2 antenas?
[10:56] <Josh0403> juano: I think I do, I mean it works in windows.
[10:57] <h3xis> kane77, no. this is on a linksys wrt54g
[10:57] <Aggort2> Riotkittie: But now it's not picking up the slave
[10:57] <h3xis> kane77, some have one
[10:57] <pianoboy3333> I'm running ubuntu edgy, can anyone help print to a HP LaserJet 1000 connected to another XP machine on my network?
[10:57] <miniman> Josh0403: I have the same gfx card as you..I can help you PM me
[10:57] <juano> Josh0403: you need to install the drivers for linux
[10:57] <Bryan`> how large should a /boot partition be?  whilst installing the nvidia-glx package for whatever reason it said it ran out of space
[10:57] <NevroPus> how do I close vlc completely? I closed the window by clicking the X, but it's still playing the sound
[10:57] <h3xis> kane77, i dont see why it wouldnt work, but i will post on the dd-wrt (the firmware used) forum and see what everyone says about it
[10:57] <bbm4n> hello
[10:57] <SimonLoftus> you sure NevroPus
[10:57] <StraightShootinC> miniman  is pm working?
[10:57] <SoulChild> pagefault: command not found
[10:57] <Josh0403> doesn't linux come with them?
[10:57] <SimonLoftus> that should close it fully
[10:58] <pagefault> SoulChild: hmm
[10:58] <SimonLoftus> check your system tray
[10:58] <kane77> h3xis, ok... thanx a lot for your time :D
[10:58] <NevroPus> I know SimonLoftus, but it wouldn't
[10:58] <SimonLoftus> weird
[10:58] <NevroPus> where's my system tray?
[10:58] <SimonLoftus> check in your other desktop
[10:58] <SimonLoftus> top right
[10:58] <bbm4n> i have a problem with synaptic
[10:58] <NevroPus> yeah, not there
[10:58] <SimonLoftus> hmm
[10:58] <bbm4n> i m behind a router
[10:58] <riotkittie> oh man. i cannot follow this room on sirc at all. brb. xchat here i come ;.
[10:58] <SimonLoftus> have u got more than one open?
[10:58] <ggergely> hi there. is there anibody here, who is Finnish?
[10:58] <SoulChild> pagefault: do understand bootchart png images and can u interpret them?
[10:58] <NevroPus> more than one vlc? nope
[10:58] <SimonLoftus> because you can open it multiple times
[10:58] <SimonLoftus> k
[10:58] <NevroPus> and noone sould be open now
[10:58] <miniman> How can I remove GRUB?
[10:59] <juano> Josh0403: check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf for any section that refers to ATI
[10:59] <pagefault> sudo cpufreq-selector --help
[10:59] <Josh0403> ok
[10:59] <bbm4n> what ports synapitic uses????
[10:59] <SimonLoftus> do you know how to open up the task manager?
[10:59] <SoulChild> miniman: do u want to use windwos?
[10:59] <StraightShootinC> miniman... its not grub that is the problem
[10:59] <pagefault> maybe that can help you out
[10:59] <madman__> can someone send me their firefox file or config, i messed the thing up :(
[10:59] <NevroPus> no, how?
[10:59] <pagefault> it works on my core 2
[10:59] <miniman> yes it is
[10:59] <SimonLoftus> ok
[10:59] <SimonLoftus> right click your bar at the top
[10:59] <StraightShootinC> miniman  do you have another pc to put the drive in?
[10:59] <bbm4n> anyone?
[10:59] <Josh0403> miniman: i can't pm you. It says I'm not registered
[10:59] <SimonLoftus> go down until you see system manager
[10:59] <SoulChild> pagefault: i ll try
[10:59] <miniman> I removed my linux partition, now alll i have is one windows partition.
[10:59] <miniman> yes
[10:59] <SimonLoftus> wait sorry click add to panel
[10:59] <SimonLoftus> then do that
[10:59] <miniman> All I need to do is remove GRUB
[11:00] <pagefault> ok
[11:00] <ggergely> fdisk /mbr
[11:00] <pagefault> it lets you set the frequency to whatever you want
[11:00] <bbm4n> does anyone knows what ports synaptic pack manager needs to be open?
[11:00] <miniman> josh0403: do you have MSN?
[11:00] <Zaggynl> :o 1024 peeps in here
[11:00] <jrib> for some reason metacity has suddenly decided to no longer raise a window when I click on its contents.  The only way to raise a window now is to click on the title bar.  Anything I can do other than logging out and back in?
[11:00] <ggergely> miniman: fdisk /mbr
[11:00] <Josh0403> yea
[11:00] <pianoboy3333> I'm running ubuntu edgy, can anyone help print to a HP LaserJet 1000 connected to another XP machine on my network?
[11:00] <madman__> can someone send me their firefox file or config, i messed the thing up :(
[11:00] <StraightShootinC> if you set ex2fsd to boot the linux partition automatically then it changes the partition table entry of the linux partition to 07 which is ntfs... then suddenly grub can't read it... its still there
[11:01] <pagefault> sudo cpufreq-selector --help
[11:01] <miniman> I removed my linux partition.
[11:01] <pagefault> it works yeah
[11:01] <h3xis> kane77, where are you at location wise?
[11:01] <StraightShootinC> miniman what did you remove it with?
[11:01] <ggergely> madman__: remove the settings. :
[11:01] <ggergely> $ rm -rf ~.firefox
[11:01] <miniman> Gparted
[11:01] <SoulChild> pagefault: let me explain the problem: ubuntu boots 2 min longer when my ac adapter is plugged in... seems to be a processor problem but i am not sure... anyway.. could u help me if i show u a bootchart with ac plugged in/out to analyse the problem, would be very thankful if u got the time for me
[11:01] <kane77> h3xis, you mean country?
[11:01] <StraightShootinC> ah nevermind then... i could have helped you before you did that...
[11:01] <h3xis> kane77, yeah. just to make sure the wrt54g is available
[11:01] <ggergely> miniman: in win cmd: fdisk /mbr
[11:01] <kane77> h3xis, im in slovakia (central europe)
[11:01] <h3xis> kane77, ok
[11:02] <madman__> i did
[11:02] <madman__> and firefox doesn't start anymore
[11:02] <ggergely> anyonefrim Finnland?
[11:02] <miniman> Through ubuntu: How can I remove GRUB?
[11:02] <mwe> ggergely: isn't it ~/.mozilla/firefox? and maybe renaming it would be wiser ?
[11:02] <Josh0403> miniman: jmh040390@msn.com
[11:02] <pianoboy3333> I'm running ubuntu edgy, gnome, can anyone help print to a HP LaserJet 1000 connected to another XP machine on my network?
[11:02] <kane77> h3xis, i was just checking and its available... (and isnt as expensive as I thought)
[11:02] <StraightShootinC> miniman removing grub won't put windows bootloader back
[11:02] <h3xis> kane77, yeah. it comes with crappy stock firmware, however if this goes through i'll help you flash it with the dd-wrt firmware
[11:03] <StraightShootinC> miniman   you could just re-install ubuntu fixing grub in the process
[11:03] <juano> Josh0403: try this   --->  sudo apt-get install fglrx-driver
[11:03] <disposable> i 'printed' my partition table into a file with cfdisk before windows completely screwed everything. how do i use the 'printed' copy to restore my original partition table? ( i have the table, sector and raw version)
[11:03] <bbm4n> blablab la
[11:03] <ghatak> The current version ubuntu is 6.10, i sometime ago downloaded 6.06 LTS, if i install 6.06 LTS now, would i able to update to most recent one without downloading and installing again ?
[11:03] <pagefault> SoulChild: I don't really know what the problem coudl be
[11:03] <pagefault> SoulChild: it should be booting at full speed
[11:03] <hou5ton> I can't figure out where to put OpenOffice templates ... the directory .... to put new ones in???
[11:03] <Flannel> ghatak: yep.
[11:03] <Flannel> !upgrade | ghatak
[11:03] <ubotu> ghatak: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[11:03] <kane77> h3xis, hopefuly my isp wont have issues with this :D
[11:04] <BigToe> How can I get ubuntu to play NSV streams?
[11:04] <CarCase928> hello. How do i set-up a proxy server on Ubuntu?
[11:04] <SoulChild> pagefault: thats what confusing me... do u have expirence with bootcharts
[11:04] <pianoboy3333> !printing
[11:04] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:04] <pagefault> sudo cpufreq-selector --help
[11:04] <pagefault> look there?
[11:04] <h3xis> kane77, they shouldnt. even if they did (cant see why they would?) they would never know
[11:04] <SoulChild> pagefault:
[11:04] <SoulChild> pagefault: i did
[11:04] <pagefault> SoulChild: no idea what one is
[11:04] <ghatak> Kewl, one more question, i want to try XGL on my lapi, and i am bout to install 6.06 LTS, can i try XGL on that or do i need separate distro for that ?
[11:04] <CarCase928> !Proxy Server
[11:04] <kane77> h3xis, he might notice my mac changed...
[11:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Proxy Server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:04] <Flannel> ghatak: yep, see #ubuntu-xgl for more niformation on setting that up
[11:04] <CarCase928> !proxy
[11:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proxy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:05] <mwe> !msgthebot | CarCase928
[11:05] <ubotu> CarCase928: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[11:05] <h3xis> kane77, your mac wont change. your mac is permanent
[11:05] <ghatak> Flannel: thanks a bunch
[11:05] <SoulChild> pagefault thanks anyway. for caring ;)
[11:05] <kane77> h3xis, but I will have the router connected instead of my wificard...
[11:05] <BigToe> How can I get ubuntu to play NSV streams?
[11:05] <kane77> h3xis, routers do have mac, right?
[11:06] <h3xis> kane77, yes, but it's not broadcasted to your ISP
[11:06] <Bryan`> how can i resize my partitions without destroying my install?
[11:06] <kane77> h3xis, :D thats cool then :D
[11:06] <kane77> h3xis, I'm going to look for one tomorow.. :D
[11:06] <h3xis> kane77, do you have some little pigtail cable that runs from the antenna on your roof to your wifi card?
[11:06] <mwe> Bryan`: that depends on the file system. for ext3 you can use gparted from a live cd
[11:06] <juano> Bryan`: use gparted
[11:07] <kane77> h3xis, yes
[11:07] <CarCase928> how do i set-up a proxy server on ubuntu?
[11:07] <h3xis> kane77, alright. let me draw a pic of what it should look like when it's done
[11:07] <kane77> h3xis,  :D i found out that I'm not that good on freehand drawing with mouse :D
[11:07] <MannyLNJ08753> Hello. I have a somewhere unorthodox systtem. I'm running a pre-made ubunto image under vmware (host os is XP) The image has a PDF viewer on it but I need to replace it with Adobe's PDF viewer due to the need to access a PDF protected by DRM
[11:07] <h3xis> kane77, haha not many people are
[11:08] <wkerzend> is anyone a grub expert here?
[11:08] <MannyLNJ08753> How do I do this?
[11:08] <NickGarvey> !justask
[11:08] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:08] <MasterShrek> wkerzend what do u need in grub?
[11:08] <Bryan`> how large should i make a /boot partition?
[11:08] <wkerzend> reinstall grub
[11:08] <mwe> !anyone | wkerzend
[11:08] <ubotu> wkerzend: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:08] <Flannel> !grub | wkerzend, first link
[11:08] <ubotu> wkerzend, first link: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:09] <wkerzend> i did but no one listened
[11:09] <wkerzend> Im running ubuntu dapper on my laptop. somehow windows managed to crash my grub into errpr 15. I solved that problem by reinstalling grub. now I get error 17. I have a boot partition on dev/hda3 and the root on /dev/hda5 please help
[11:09] <jewbilee> Can anyone tell me where the levels window is in the GIMP?
[11:09] <jakob> Can someone tell me how I run something as root in system/preferences/sessions?
[11:09] <init6> 6.10 comes using python 2.4 for everything.  How do I tell it I'd like it to use 2.5?
[11:09] <mwe> wkerzend: see the previous message from uboto to you
[11:09] <jrib> for some reason metacity has suddenly decided to no longer raise a window when I click on its contents.  The only way to raise a window now is to click on the title bar.  Anything I can do other than logging out and back in?
[11:09] <BigToe> How can I get ubuntu to play NSV streams?
[11:10] <Flannel> wkerzend: error 17 is grub not recognizing the filesystem it's trying to mount
[11:10] <Bryan`> juano: how large should i make my /boot partition.  it is currently 15mb
[11:10] <wkerzend> mwe: what ubotu descreibes is not the problem
[11:10] <kane77> jewbilee, layers -> colors -> lebesl
[11:10] <kane77> jewbilee, *levels
[11:10] <Flannel> Bryan`: it needs to be big enough to hold your kernels, and a few config files.
[11:10] <init6> Bryan:  100mb will be overkill.   Use that
[11:10] <Bryan`> Flannel: hmmm   installing the nvidia-glx package a note popped up saying it ran out of space and wouldnt continue
[11:11] <wkerzend> grub has as one argument root=???? what should i give there the root or the boot partition?
[11:11] <init6> root = /
[11:11] <Flannel> wkerzend: your root partition, once you're in grub, it's found /boot
[11:11] <Flannel> Bryan`: do you have a bunch of old kernels hanging around?
[11:11] <juano> Bryan`: i use 1.4 GB SWAP, runs fine
[11:12] <Bryan`> Flannel: this is a fresh installation
[11:12] <CarCase928> what packages do i need to set-up a proxy server?
[11:12] <h3xis> kane77, http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/h3xis/cap2.jpg
[11:12] <Flannel> Bryan`: alright, Why on earth did you make /boot only 15M, may I ask?
[11:12] <Riyonuk> I seem to be having wireless issues
[11:12] <wkerzend> flannel ok it says error 15 again but I know the kernels are there
[11:12] <Riyonuk> Xchat works fine, web browsing 99% never loads anything, not even google
[11:12] <SimonLoftus> anyone know a fast link for ubuntu ISO
[11:12] <Bryan`> Flannel: i was used to it from messing with slackware long ago...it always reccomended it, and i never had a problem
[11:13] <kane77> h3xis, yes, that's I was thinking... only for one computer I'll use normal ethernet cable
[11:13] <Flannel> wkerzend: error 15 is the stuff on your MBR not being able to find /boot
[11:13] <nite> Whats up people
[11:13] <h3xis> kane77, alright. im not sure if that layout will work, but i'll get back to you on it when i receive any feedback. im asking around
[11:13] <mwe> Riyonuk: I wonder why xchat works then
[11:13] <SimonLoftus> the xchat broswer works perfectly fine for me
[11:13] <kane77> h3xis, I realy appreciate your help...
[11:14] <h3xis> ;)
[11:14] <SimonLoftus> www.google.com
[11:14] <wkerzend> flannel: in grub i have root(hd0,4) (this is my boot partition), then kernel /vmlinuz.... root=/dev/hda5 (which is my root partiotion) ro quiet splaqsh ...
[11:14] <tiffany123> hi
[11:14] <SimonLoftus> yap, very fast
[11:14] <nite> Works for me too
[11:14] <SimonLoftus> hi tiff
[11:14] <Flannel> Bryan`: 100M should be plenty, kernels are about 9M a piece, for the whole thing (vmlinuz and initrd)
[11:14] <mlissner> Just checking - this works?
[11:14] <tiffany123> can someone help me with my wlan device ?
[11:14] <tiffany123> i want to connect to my network without any encryption - with encryption it works successfull
[11:14] <SimonLoftus> widelan or wireless lan?
[11:15] <Flannel> wkerzend: 15 error is before it gets to /boot (and therefore before it gets to it's config file).  It's the grub on the MBR looking at the wrong place for /boot
[11:15] <tiffany123> But if I only delete the whole key it doesnt work
[11:15] <tiffany123> wireless
[11:15] <Riyonuk> Is it my DNS? Im using DNS
[11:15] <MannyLNJ08753> Hello. I have a somewhere unorthodox systtem. I'm running a pre-made ubunto image under vmware (host os is XP) The image has a PDF viewer on it but I need to replace it with Adobe's PDF viewer due to the need to access a PDF protected by DRM how do I do this?
[11:15] <SimonLoftus> whats wrong with the encryption
[11:15] <SimonLoftus> its probs safe to use it
[11:15] <SimonLoftus> safer
[11:15] <Bryan`> Flannel: thanks for the help, ill give gparted a try...i just boot into the livecd?  or is it somewhere else?
[11:15] <mwe> Riyonuk: maybe. cat /etc/resolv.conf
[11:15] <Flannel> Bryan`: even 50M is probably fine.  15 is pushing it though, since you'd never be able to have two kernels installed (an old one, and a new one)
[11:15] <mwe> Riyonuk: tell me if it looks right
[11:16] <Flannel> Bryan`: yeah, the liveCD can repartition
[11:16] <Bryan`> alright thanks man
[11:16] <juano> Bryan`: gparted is in the repositories
[11:16] <juano> Bryan`: also
[11:16] <wkerzend> flannel, and how do I tell grub to look at the right place (my guess is grub-install /dev/hda3) but this didnt work
[11:16] <tiffany123> SimonLoftus: I#m using mnacosx at my second computer and because of unstable drivers i have to deactivate it
[11:16] <tiffany123> is there an solution?
[11:16] <Riyonuk> *Open DNS
[11:16] <Riyonuk> SimonLoftus, >_>
[11:16] <Bryan`> juano: so is it possible to do without booting to livecd? like i can do it right now?
[11:16] <tiffany123> because there is no option like "no encryption", only "ascii" and "hexadecimal"
[11:17] <madman__> is that normal
[11:17] <madman__> in 2gb of ram
[11:17] <mwe> Riyonuk: does /etc/resolv.conf look right?
[11:17] <madman__> i got 2gb used by ubuntu
[11:17] <Riyonuk> mwe, nameserver 208.67.222.222
[11:17] <Riyonuk> nameserver 208.67.220.220
[11:17] <Flannel> Bryan`: you can only repartition unmounted FSs, so probably doable, but not worth the hassle
[11:17] <mwe> Riyonuk: looks right
[11:17] <juano> Bryan`: yes, you can do it through here, then reboot to make changes, you can also download a gparted boot cd, ive got that, its neat
[11:17] <nite> Hi people
[11:17] <mwe> Riyonuk: can you ping google.com?
[11:17] <Bryan`> awesome
[11:18] <wkerzend> Flannel, doesnt root(hd0,4) tell grub where to look for boot?
[11:18] <Flannel> wkerzend: the grub installation happens on your MBR, so just /dev/hda
[11:18] <SimonLoftus> brb
[11:18] <Flannel> wkerzend: That configuration file is loaded only after it finds boot (the file is in /boot), your current error (15) is BEFORE it finds /boot
[11:18] <nite> Am I invisible?
[11:18] <nite> or what?
[11:19] <Bryan`> i see you.
[11:19] <wkerzend> Flannel: so i do  grub-install /dev/hda
[11:19] <juano> hi nite
[11:19] <nite> Thanks
[11:19] <Flannel> wkerzend: right, just like that page said to do.
[11:19] <madman__> firefox is not starting :(
[11:19] <Riyonuk> mwe, sure...I guess it does, whats it supposed to look like?
[11:19] <mwe> Riyonuk: you should get replies and no package loss
[11:20] <nite> Hows everyone today?
[11:20] <mwe> Riyonuk: when you press ctrl-c stop stop ping the last line says packet loss:
[11:20] <Flannel> nite: we're all dandy.  However, if you want to be social, this isn't the best place for it. #ubuntu-offtopic is what you're looking for,  #ubuntu is for support
[11:20] <mwe> Riyonuk: or the second to last line rather. it should be 0%
[11:21] <pianoboy3333> When I try and print, in the printer's preferences, I get this error: Printing: No %%BoundingBox: comment in header! What does that mean?
[11:21] <nite> Ahhhh thanks
[11:21] <nite> seeya
[11:21] <Bryan`> what can i use to burn iso to a cdr?
[11:21] <juano> Bryan`: xcdroast
[11:21] <jazzrocker> Bryan`, k3b, gnome-baker
[11:21] <jazzrocker> Bryan`, cdrao
[11:22] <mwe> Bryan`: cdrecord as well if you like CLI
[11:22] <h3xis> kane77, will you be back here later?
[11:22] <h3xis> kane77, i'm kind of interested in this configuration/layout myself
[11:22] <kane77> h3xis, i should be...
[11:22] <ts> ubuntu-pl
[11:22] <h3xis> kane77, alright. if i come up with anything from anybody i'll let you know
[11:22] <kane77> h3xis, what timezone are you at?
[11:23] <h3xis> kane77, eastern
[11:23] <kane77> h3xis, so what time it is?
[11:23] <h3xis> kane77, 5:23pm
[11:23] <VMT2007> Every time I start bash I get...
[11:23] <kane77> h3xis, here its 11:23pm
[11:23] <VMT2007> bash: setenv: command not found
[11:23] <VMT2007> twice
[11:23] <h3xis> kane77, ah okay
[11:24] <kane77> h3xis, I'll go to sleep in an hour... but I'll be back tomorrow...
[11:24] <h3xis> kane77, alright
[11:24] <mlissner> I'm having a bit of an issue...anybody want to give it a shot?
[11:24] <jazzrocker> is the default group the same as the username?
[11:24] <jazzrocker> or is there a "users" group?
[11:24] <seeds> !ask
[11:24] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:24] <jazzrocker> i need multiple users to be able to svn update the same website
[11:24] <bimberi> VMT2007: "setenv' is a "C Shell" script.  Won't work in bash.
[11:25] <mlissner> Can do...IRC is new to me. The problem I'm having is that my dual core is working as a single core.
[11:25] <VMT2007> bimberi: I know that
[11:25] <jazzrocker> right now i run svn update as root
[11:25] <VMT2007> but I get it every time I start bash :)
[11:25] <jazzrocker> mlissner, uname -a
[11:25] <mwe> jazzrocker: create a common group
[11:25] <bimberi> jazzrocker: yes
[11:25] <jazzrocker> bimberi, yes who?
[11:25] <VMT2007> It isn't in .bashrc or .bash_profile
[11:25] <jazzrocker> mwe, ok so is there one already that i should use? or should i create my own
[11:25] <mlissner> jazzrocker: it's the 386 kernel
[11:25] <bimberi> jazzrocker: I use the "staff" group for that ("Yes" was to your first question)
[11:26] <jazzrocker> mlissner, yeh, well that'd probably be your first issue, the second would be it needs to be the "SMP" kernel
[11:26] <mwe> jazzrocker: I created a 'users' group
[11:26] <seeds> I need some help. My pppoe connection is not starting automatically at startup, why?
[11:26] <bimberi> jazzrocker: ... but feel free to create your own ...
[11:26] <jazzrocker> bimberi, ok, cool thx
[11:26] <jrib> VMT2007: grep -R setenv ~   and wait? :)
[11:26] <mwe> jazzrocker: I don't consider my users staff
[11:26] <juano> seeds, did you run pppoeconf?
[11:26] <mlissner> jazz: Ok. I thought so, but when I switch to the smp kernel, I lose wireles.
[11:26] <VMT2007> jrib: recursive?
[11:26] <seeds> yes juano, but i have to make that everytime i want to connect to internet
[11:26] <jazzrocker> mlissner, yeh that's probably because they haven't compiled your wireless module for that specific kernel
[11:26] <jrib> VMT2007: or maybe start with just ~/.*
[11:27] <SilentDis> hello :)
[11:27] <juano> seeds: to trigger conn, you would do ---  pon dsl-provider  --- as root
[11:27] <mlissner> jazz: so then I have to do that myself right? And if I do, does that affect the other kernels? Cause I don't want to screw up the other kernels trying to get dual working...
[11:27] <jazzrocker> mlissner, i dunno, they're not always good at compiling *all* the modules for all the kernels... i've noticed this in various distros... e.g. there's a kernel update, but then they neglect to send the updated nVidia driver, so you update your kernel and poof, X stops working :)
[11:27] <jazzrocker> mlissner, how nice of them, lol, i've seen this on multiple distros
[11:27] <seeds> juano: how do i make it to run that command at startup?
[11:28] <jazzrocker> mlissner, so, yeh i dunno a lot about wireless, you may need to compile your wireless module by hand
[11:28] <mlissner> jazz: annoying...
[11:28] <juano> seeds: mm, you could do a start up script for that
[11:28] <Gosha> !nrg
[11:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nrg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:28] <SilentDis> bit of a weird issue, here...  I'm experiencing 'spikes' in processor usage for some reason, they appear to be related to a program called "apt-index-watcher".  there's a copy running, and every 5 seconds or so, another copy runs, which sucks 100% resources for a brief moment, then goes away, and the machine runs fine again.  this wouldn't be a problem, but it's causing a 'hiccup' of sorts when i'm doing gaming and such.  any suggestions?
[11:28] <Gosha> !mount
[11:28] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[11:28] <mlissner> jazz: so I should do it myself it sounds like?
[11:28] <jazzrocker> mlissner, so i'm sure that tendency applies to other drivers as well... and honestly i don't really know anything about wireless, i've never used it, too slow IMO
[11:28] <seeds> juano: I'm a noob so i don't know how to do that
[11:28] <Gosha> eh
[11:28] <Gosha> !iso
[11:28] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[11:28] <jazzrocker> mlissner, or at least search around on the wiki/forums
[11:28] <seeds> juano: can you help me please?
[11:28] <Godsey> jason@ubuntu:~/devel$ git clone rsync://rsync.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/bcollins/ubuntu-edgy.git ubuntu-edgy
[11:29] <jazzrocker> mlissner, see if anyone else has had your problem, and then yeah, probably research how to do it yourself
[11:29] <juano> seeds: check this out :) best luck http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/
[11:29] <Godsey> is this the correct line to get kernel source?
[11:29] <mlissner> jazz: yeah, I've been trying that for a few days now...no responses to my posts yet.
[11:29] <mnoir> !startup | seeds
[11:29] <ubotu> seeds: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[11:29] <Godsey> I get about 9meg of data and it errors
[11:29] <madman__> ubuntu optimisation
[11:29] <jazzrocker> mlissner, and or submit a report to the Ubuntu team and let them know "hey! you didn't compile foo module when you compiled kernel X"
[11:29] <mlissner> jazz: I guess I'll see what I can figure out. I switched to ubuntu from fedora because the smp kernel in fedora didn't work eitehr...oye...
[11:30] <bimberi> Godsey: there is a "linux-source" package
[11:30] <seeds> juano , mnoir, ubotu: thank you very much
[11:30] <jazzrocker> mlissner, hahaha lol
[11:30] <toyboytbfb> Wow..
[11:30] <toyboytbfb> O_o
[11:30] <BigToe> How can I view NSV streams in linux?
[11:30] <jazzrocker> mlissner, i've used both fed and ubuntu for quite a while
[11:30] <mnoir> seeds: hth
[11:30] <Godsey> bimberi: right, the KernelCustomBuild wiki sugests using git
[11:30] <Kaczer> Hi, i have one problem ... I was trying to install new nvidia drivers, i installed beta version of drivers from albertomilone.com but after reboot KDE did not start .... I have only command line
[11:30] <mlissner> yeah, fedora sure is prettier.
[11:30] <toyboytbfb> Ubuntu wont work for me!!!
[11:30] <jazzrocker> mlissner, neither has really impressed me, i still use windows on my desktop
[11:30] <toyboytbfb> ;_;
[11:30] <Kaczer> How can i start KDE from terminal?
[11:30] <Godsey> so i thought I'd give it a go, but it isn't working so I'm wondering what I've fubared :)
[11:30] <mlissner> jazz: hardware support...what else can I say.
[11:30] <toyboytbfb> Guys..
[11:30] <toyboytbfb> =(
[11:30] <jazzrocker> mlissner, yeah that's why i use windows :(
[11:30] <toyboytbfb> Ubuntu keeps freezin up
[11:31] <juano> seeds: your script would be this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/780/
[11:31] <toyboytbfb> on my desktop
[11:31] <mlissner> jass: so you think that messing with one kernel won't screw the other?
[11:31] <Godsey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelGitGuide  <- following this.
[11:31] <IntuitiveNipple> Any GRUB experts in, can help me with an Edgy install with dmraid ?
[11:31] <toyboytbfb> And i switched to ubuntu last nite
[11:31] <ghatak> Hey guys, which file system should i use, Ext3 or XFS, which is better ?
[11:31] <jazzrocker> mlissner, music hardware is firewire and my guess is that drivers for *nix are a few years away at least
[11:31] <VMT2007> ghatak: I use JFS
[11:31] <bimberi> Godsey: hm. righto. that's thrown my confidence a bit :)
[11:31] <juano> seeds: make that script and put it in the dir that the url mentions :)
[11:31] <mlissner> jazz: huh?
[11:31] <toyboytbfb> Hey guys
[11:31] <toyboytbfb> T_T
[11:31] <mlissner> jazz: lost me on that one.
[11:31] <jazzrocker> mlissner, um, well the Ubuntu kernel comes with a specific set of "Ubuntu" patches
[11:31] <sten_> ghatak: unless you have a UPS, I'd use ext3.
[11:31] <toyboytbfb> T_T!!!!!
[11:31] <jazzrocker> mlissner, *my* music hardware <-
[11:31] <toyboytbfb> Sigh this place sucks
[11:31] <mlissner> jazz: ah. Got it.
[11:31] <ghatak> hmm.. i guess i should stick to ext3
[11:32] <VMT2007> I use JFS on my laptop
[11:32] <Godsey> ghatak: you can shrink ext3, not xfs :)
[11:32] <mnoir> !enter | toy why not ask a sensible question:
[11:32] <ubotu> toy why not ask a sensible question:: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:32] <mwe> VMT2007: I find jfs to be horribly slow
[11:32] <Godsey> if that's important to you
[11:32] <VMT2007> ReiserFS isn't bad
[11:32] <jazzrocker> mlissner, so anyway if you recompile by hand you should use the Ubuntu sources rather than the "vanilla" kernel.org ones
[11:32] <jazzrocker> mlissner, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=kernel&titlesearch=Titles
[11:33] <Kaczer> Could anybody help me? I need to start KDE from terminal.... KDE will not start automaticly
[11:33] <ghatak> Godsey: yea that is what i want basically
[11:33] <mwe> VMT2007: I used to use JFS on my laptop but it was really slow handling many small files
[11:33] <sten_> vmt2007: but reiserfs has high-ish CPU usage compared to ext3.
[11:33] <jazzrocker> mlissner, this is probably the one you want: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild?highlight=%28kernel%29
[11:33] <seeds> juano: thank you very much, i will try it now
[11:33] <juano> seeds: no problem
[11:33] <VMT2007> lol, use vfat
[11:33] <Godsey> ghatak: w/ lvm2 and ext3 you can grow/shrink filesystems
[11:33] <Godsey> ghatak: I don't think you can online shrink, so you would have to use a rescue disk for that but you can online grow
[11:34] <jazzrocker> mlissner, honestly building a kernel really isn't *that* hard... most people are just irationally scared of things they don't know... if you follow the instructions and do it right it'll take a little trial and error and research but you'll get it
[11:34] <VMT2007> I can't shrink my ext3 fs
[11:34] <Godsey> VMT2007: is it mounted?
[11:34] <sten_> jazzrocker: do you know how to figure out which RTC chipset one has?
[11:34] <bimberi> Godsey: hmmk, the wiki page suggests both methods, but to use git if you want the latest development release (and says that's preferred)
[11:34] <mlissner> jazz, OK, well I guess I'll see if I can figure it out.
[11:34] <VMT2007> Godsey: I wasn't born yesterday, and it wasn't when I tried.
[11:34] <jazzrocker> sten_, um usually with google :)
[11:35] <Godsey> VMT2007: does it tell you the fs doesn't have resize inode support?
[11:35] <mwe> VMT2007: odd. I can easily schrink ext3 with gparted from a live cd
[11:35] <jazzrocker> sten_, i generally look at my hardware and take any serial/part numbers, look up the card in question and then google for it plus the word "chipset"
[11:35] <mlissner> jazz, thanks for the suggestions, it'll give me something to be proud of...
[11:35] <VMT2007> nope
[11:35] <rnalexander> Hello
[11:35] <jazzrocker> sten_, most linux hardware guides will tell you what chipsets various hardware has
[11:35] <mlissner> jazz, do I get to call my kernel whatever I want to?
[11:35] <mlissner> hell
[11:35] <rnalexander> I think I managed to mess up a CHOWN command.
[11:35] <mlissner> hello
[11:35] <jazzrocker> mlissner, yeah pretty much
[11:35] <mlissner> jazz, sweet.
[11:35] <mwe> rnalexander: that's easy to do ;)
[11:36] <rnalexander> Now my /etc/sudoers file belongs to my user account not user 0
[11:36] <mlissner> jazz, thanks again. I'm out for the moment.
[11:36] <Godsey> git may be too fancy for me :)
[11:36] <rnalexander> and I can't run sudo...
[11:36] <jazzrocker> sten_, also putting the word "linux" in there helps because we're the ones who most often want to know that info
[11:36] <mwe> rnalexander: boot to single user mode and change it back
[11:36] <mnoir> rnalexander: did you set a root pswd?
[11:36] <Godsey> ftp 0.99 kernel source from mit.edu was easier I think :P
[11:36] <rnalexander> No, I didn't set a root password I'm afraid, I can't SU in and change it :-(
[11:36] <sten_> jazzrocker: mm, that's always worked for me in the past.  I'm having more trouble this time though, because the chipset in question lives in a laptop
[11:36] <ggergely> just do: chowh root:root /etc/sudoers
[11:36] <mwe> rnalexander: there should be a rescue option in the grub boot menu
[11:36] <bimberi> Godsey: lol
[11:36] <IntuitiveNipple> Any GRUB experts about?
[11:36] <jrib> rnalexander: what chown command did you use?
[11:36] <jazzrocker> mlissner, last word is: i usually just compile exactly and only what i need directly into the kernel... but that's just me
[11:37] <ggergely> you are the owner, you should be able to change it
[11:37] <Flannel> !ask | IntuitiveNipple
[11:37] <ubotu> IntuitiveNipple: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:37] <mnoir> rnalexander: boot from the live cd, mount yer disk and change it
[11:37] <mwe> ggergely: no
[11:37] <ggergely> k
[11:37] <IntuitiveNipple> I asked it already!
[11:37] <ggergely> i beleive you
[11:37] <mwe> ggergely: users cannot chown to other users
[11:37] <Godsey> bimberi: but of course I am going to work on it till I figure it out ..just because
[11:37] <samuel> sup all
[11:37] <ggergely> i didn't know it.
[11:37] <Flannel> IntuitiveNipple: sorry, meant to !anyone you.  Anyway, just... ask the question, if anyone knows, they'll answer
[11:37] <rnalexander> MWE, how do I boot to single user mode please?
[11:37] <ggergely> now i learned sg new :)
[11:37] <jazzrocker> mlissner, a better way to do it would be compile "most" of exactly and only what you need directly in, and then choose some of it that you can compile as modules and do so
[11:37] <IntuitiveNipple> GRUB is reporting an error after "setup (hd0)" - being Error 6: Mismatched or corrupt version of stage1/stage2
[11:37] <samuel> anyone know what this means?
[11:37] <mwe> rnalexander: from the bootup menu, rescue
[11:37] <samuel> /usr/bin/dpkg-buildpackage: debian/rules: /usr/bin/make: bad interpreter: Permission denied? im doing it as root? permission denied?
[11:37] <Godsey> VMT2007: did you paste the error somewhere I can see it?
[11:38] <rnalexander> mwe trying now, thanks!
[11:38] <VMT2007> Godsey: I did it from a live CD
[11:38] <VMT2007> so no
[11:38] <jazzrocker> sten_, there's a whole site devoted to linux on laptops
[11:38] <jazzrocker> sten_, http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[11:38] <mlissner> jazz, I don't follow that, but I'll make a note of it in case someday I do?
[11:38] <Godsey> VMT2007: and you're positive it didn't auto mount the filesystem? :)
[11:38] <VMT2007> Godsey: I unmounted it
[11:38] <sten_> jazzrocker: yeah, I know about www.linux-laptop.net and www.thinkwiki.org
[11:39] <rnalexander> MWE there is a recovery mode option, but that's it, should I use that?
[11:39] <Godsey> the only time I've seen it not work is if the filesystem didn't have resize inode support or the kernel wasn't built w/ resize support
[11:39] <snowkrash> hi
[11:39] <mwe> VMT2007: it's odd, though. using a recent gparted I guess?
[11:39] <snowkrash> flash doesnt work on my ubuntu installation
[11:39] <Godsey> but resize2fs gave a meaningful error
[11:39] <snowkrash> can i try to install it via easy ubuntu
[11:39] <mwe> rnalexander: yeah that one
[11:39] <snowkrash> is easy ubuntu save?
[11:39] <jazzrocker> sten_, k then i dunno man... my guess is that the RTC would be part of the mobo... so... wouldn't that be like, nVidia, intel or AMD? depending on what system you have?
[11:39] <mwe> snowkrash: in most cases
[11:39] <Godsey> mwe: I rarely have luck w/ parted
[11:39] <jazzrocker> snowkrash, i don't like easyubuntu
[11:39] <jrib> snowkrash: easyubuntu will just install flashplugin-nonfree from multiverse, same as installing in synaptic
[11:40] <snowkrash> jazrocker
[11:40] <snowkrash> why
[11:40] <jazzrocker> snowkrash, i've had bad luck with it... even the last time they told me "no no no, it's so much better now" it really wasn't
[11:40] <wkerzend> Flannel: thanks found my mistake andcorrected it
[11:40] <snowkrash> well i tryed to install it from universe
[11:40] <snowkrash> from the adobe page
[11:40] <mwe> Godsey: I see. gparted has worked flawlessly for me.
[11:40] <rnalexander> MWE, booting now.  Ok, I'm at the command line.
[11:40] <snowkrash> nothin worked
[11:40] <jrib> snowkrash: it's not in universe
[11:40] <juano> samuel: try giving chmod 777
[11:40] <VMT2007> mwe: Yeah, the Ubuntu live install and even a FreeBSD live CD
[11:40] <mwe> rnalexander: good
[11:40] <jrib> snowkrash: which package?
[11:40] <mwe> VMT2007: hmm
[11:40] <jazzrocker> snowkrash, lol if you care about flash, don't use *nix
[11:40] <sten_> jazzrocker: yeah, I have an ICH4, but haven't yet been able to find what RTC is integrated into it.
[11:40] <rnalexander> MWE, go to the file and try changing permission manually?
[11:40] <Godsey> if I want a to shrink from say 3G to 2G, I use resize2fs to make it 1.8G or so, shrink to 2G lv and then resize2fs to increase it up to the full device :)
[11:40] <ghatak> what is the password for root on liveCD ?
[11:40] <mwe> rnalexander: chown root:root /etc/sudoers
[11:41] <jrib> !root | ghatak
[11:41] <VMT2007> snowkrash: try downloading one of the betas :P
[11:41] <ubotu> ghatak: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:41] <Godsey> I'm paranoid I'll shrink the lv smaller than the fs
[11:41] <snowkrash> jazzrocker: stupid answer
[11:41] <ghatak> ok thanks
[11:41] <jazzrocker> sten_, http://www.google.com/search?q=ich4+rtc&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[11:41] <bimberi> ghatak: there is none, but you can set one with 'sudo passwd'
[11:41] <VMT2007> oh yeah they're  going  to use a default root password
[11:41] <rnalexander> MWE, got it!  Is there a permissions repair tha tI can run, I'm sure sudoers isn't the only file that got permissions changed incorrectly?
[11:41] <ghatak> bimberi: wont let me su into root
[11:41] <VMT2007> hahaha
[11:42] <jazzrocker> snowkrash, um... no not really... neither flash, nor the ATI drivers actually even work on mac hardware... ditto for 64 bit... and the flash for linux right now is *still* old and doesn't actually work
[11:42] <bimberi> ghatak: *sudo*
[11:42] <mwe> rnalexander: what's ls -l /etc/sudoers say?
[11:42] <VMT2007> doesn't it use some random junk as the root password by default
[11:42] <jazzrocker> snowkrash, seriously, i used to run XP inside vmware if i wanted to watch flash
[11:42] <bimberi> ghatak: if you need a root shell, use 'sudo -i'
[11:42] <rnalexander> MEW, it's set back to root and root.
[11:42] <mwe> jazzrocker: rofl
[11:42] <ghatak> bimberi: thanks got it
[11:42] <jrib> rnalexander: if you did some kind of recursive command that changed permissions outside your HOME, you should probably reinstall
[11:42] <mwe> rnalexander: I mean for perms
[11:42] <killown> how I get alsa-conf working ?
[11:43] <pianoboy3333> When I try and print, in the printer's preferences, I get this error: Printing: No %%BoundingBox: comment in header! What does that mean?
[11:43] <jazzrocker> i ran xp in vmware for IE testing really... but when i wanted to watch flash... that's what i used
[11:43] <sten_> jazzrocker: the latest flash9 beta is head and shoulders above anything *nix has ever had--yes, it still sucks, but it sucks less.  A/V sync at least works now. ;-)
[11:43] <mwe> rnalexander: it should be 440
[11:43] <killown> ubuntu its whithout sound
[11:43] <jazzrocker> sten_, hahahah "it doesn't suck *as* much anymore, yay!"
[11:43] <dm_> Hey guys any idea how to create a batch file in win XP ? its only allowing me to creat a TXT file
[11:43] <jazzrocker> killown, run alsoconf from the commandline?
[11:43] <LameBMX> AS the defining word of the day
[11:43] <jazzrocker> gah, alsaconf even
[11:43] <jrib> dm_: /join ##windows
[11:43] <killown> jazzrocker command not found
[11:43] <rnalexander> mwe, good call, I screwed up the perms when I was trying to change it.  It's at 440 now (-r---r------)
[11:44] <ompaul> dm_, that is not for here
[11:44] <jazzrocker> killown, lsmod (don't paste it)
[11:44] <mwe> rnalexander: as it should be
[11:44] <jazzrocker> killown, is alsa even linked into your kernel?
[11:44] <LameBMX> !pastebin | killown
[11:44] <ubotu> killown: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:44] <dm_> Well thanks for ALL your help
[11:44] <mwe> rnalexander: I think sudo will work now
[11:44] <rnalexander> JRIB, oh dear, I'm afraid that's what happened.
[11:44] <Godsey> rnalexander: you didn't -s sudo did you? :)
[11:44] <rnalexander> JRIB, I stopped it when I realized the commend was wrong...
[11:45] <rnalexander> Godset, no I was trying to change permissions on some files in the directory I was in and chowed to me with a bad leading slash.
[11:45] <IntuitiveNipple> Any GRUB experts about?
[11:45] <rnalexander> I chowned myself.
[11:45] <rnalexander> go me.
[11:45] <mwe> rnalexander: oh
[11:45] <juano> !ask | IntuitiveNipple
[11:45] <ubotu> IntuitiveNipple: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:46] <rnalexander> MWE, reinstall?
[11:46] <mwe> rnalexander: you may be in deeper trouble then
[11:46] <Godsey> rnalexander: I mean, sudo still is suid root correct?
[11:46] <mwe> rnalexander: nah
[11:46] <mwe> rnalexander: fix it
[11:46] <IntuitiveNipple> juano - I know, and i have, and i'm waiting for someone who knows their stuff
[11:46] <mlissner> jazz, I think this kernel thing looks like a bit much for me.
[11:46] <mwe> did you do it on /
[11:46] <rnalexander> MWE I'm afraid so...
[11:46] <mwe> rnalexander: I did once as well. managed to fix it
[11:46] <juano> IntuitiveNipple: what seems to be the problem with GRUB?
[11:46] <killown> jazzrocker, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/785/
[11:46] <Godsey> rnalexander: you can probably use apt tools to reset permissions
[11:47] <mlissner> jazz, any easier ideas? It says "reasons not to compile a custom kernel: You merely need to compile a special driver. For this, you only need to install the linux-headers packages"
[11:47] <rnalexander> Godset, apt tools?  more details please?
[11:47] <jimmyk> anyone know why Network Monitor v2.12.0 would be showing that my signal strength is 0% when I'm sure it is good
[11:47] <Celestianpower> I have a problem with my printer: I try to print, it makes all the whirring noises and the slider goes from side to side, but it just comes out with a blank page; what's wrong?
[11:47] <eXistenZ> if I change the root dir with chroot, will everything in my system get changed?
[11:47] <jazzrocker> mlissner, ahh yes that is true, often that works as well
[11:47] <mwe> rnalexander: I did chown -R root.root /. then changed /home/ each user back. and a few other files in /etc that programs complained about like /etc/cups
[11:47] <rnalexander> The good news is that none of the directorys seem to be set to me.
[11:47] <Godsey> rnalexander: I'll google a bit, I haven't used debian since potato so rusty
[11:47] <IntuitiveNipple> juano - I'm installing Edgy, on a dmraid device, so following the FakeRAID howto, but i'm getting an error when issuing the "setup (hd0)" command
[11:47] <VMT2007> jimmyk: it's never happened to me before
[11:47] <CDB> I'm trying to utilize file sharing with my Windowx XP box and it asks me for a domain at authentication but I'm under the workgroup: HOME.
[11:47] <IntuitiveNipple> GRUB is reporting an error after "setup (hd0)" - being Error 6: Mismatched or corrupt version of stage1/stage2
[11:47] <VMT2007> does `iwconfig` show a strong signal strength
[11:48] <CDB> Can anyone help me?
[11:48] <pianoboy3333> When I try and print, in the printer's preferences, I get this error: Printing: No %%BoundingBox: comment in header! What does that mean?
[11:48] <jazzrocker> mlissner, so yeh, i don't remember exactly what package it's called, but you still need everything for building a kernel (e.g. build-essential: gcc, make ....) and you also need the linux header files for your currently running kernel so that the module can link against your currently running kernel
[11:48] <VMT2007> I don't even want to hear `stage1` or `stage2`
[11:48] <VMT2007> :\
[11:48] <rnalexander> Where Is my home directory in ubutnu?
[11:48] <VMT2007> stupid gentoo
[11:48] <mwe> rnalexander: what's your user name?
[11:48] <snowkrash> do other have problems with flash as well
[11:48] <killown> jazzrocker, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/785/
[11:48] <VMT2007> rnalexander: ~
[11:48] <snowkrash> on ubuntu
[11:49] <rnalexander> mwe ryan
[11:49] <jazzrocker> mlissner, the header files are sort of a map for the code to know where to poke in
[11:49] <Wimpog> Guys, do you know the room name for Ubuntu-Server?
[11:49] <IntuitiveNipple> VMT2007: yeah, its a pain! Google hasn't been my friend either
[11:49] <jpjacobs> CDB there is a tool smbpasswd. use it like this : smbpasswd -a <user>. more info: man smbpasswd
[11:49] <Flannel> Wimpog: this is it
[11:49] <CDB> your home dir is ~ or under /home/
[11:49] <mwe> rnalexander: /home/ryan is your homedir
[11:49] <rysiek|pl> guys, anybody knows where can I find any help with wpa_supplicant?
[11:49] <mlissner> jazzrocker, I guess I get that...so the idea is to merge in the files needed into the existing kernel?
[11:49] <killown> I cannot get alsa-conf
[11:49] <jazzrocker> killown, yeah so it looks like you're running OSS instead of ALSA
[11:49] <rnalexander> Hurm...
[11:49] <jazzrocker> mlissner, yeah
[11:49] <GuerrillaWon> Does anyone know of a good package that can handle remote desktop to a windows machine?
[11:49] <rnalexander> I might have gotten it fast enough.
[11:49] <CDB> hey, thanks a lot jpjacobs... i'll check it out
[11:49] <mwe> rnalexander: try find / >/dev/null 2>&1|grep ryan|less maybe
[11:49] <killown> jazzrocker     but without sound
[11:49] <Flannel> GuerrillaWon: X can do that by default
[11:49] <Wimpog> I have ubuntu-server installed, and want to also install LAMP. Do you know how to do that without a CD???
[11:50] <juano> IntuitiveNipple: maybe this can help http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=503066 :)
[11:50] <mwe> rnalexander: that should find files owned by you
[11:50] <GuerrillaWon> Reheheheeeallly?
[11:50] <mlissner> jazzrocker, well that sounds about as complicated all around as building a cusrom kernel...
[11:50] <Flannel> !lamp | Wimpog, wiki link
[11:50] <ubotu> Wimpog, wiki link: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:50] <jazzrocker> mlissner, yes indeed
[11:50] <GuerrillaWon> What would I look under?
[11:50] <VMT2007> GuerrillaWon: uh, one second
[11:50] <mlissner> jazzrocker, would it be possile to merge in the smp stuff instead?
[11:50] <jazzrocker> mlissner, nope
[11:50] <Philluminati> There is a good remote desltop tool but I can't remember what its called
[11:50] <VMT2007> Windows Remote Desktop or VNC?
[11:50] <Flannel> GuerrillaWon: XDMCP is a common one, if you're doing it over a LAN, otherwise you have to do some tunneling
[11:50] <sten_> GuerrillaWon: your options are RDP (not sure what servers are available for this), VNC (I use VNC4), and NX Server
[11:50] <jazzrocker> mlissner, that's too low level
[11:50] <rnalexander> mwe it turns up nothing.
[11:50] <mlissner> jazzrocker, had a feeling.
[11:50] <IntuitiveNipple> juano: thanks, but no. Already chased that one (and several others) down
[11:50] <Godsey> rnalexander: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/476
[11:50] <sten_> GuerillaWon: sorry, I misunderstood your question
[11:50] <mwe> rnalexander: leally?
[11:50] <VMT2007> Flannel: Yeah he's going to connect to Windows' X server.
[11:50] <VMT2007> :)
[11:50] <GuerrillaWon> It's a windows remote desktop.
[11:51] <juano> IntuitiveNipple: ok :) ill try to come up with something
[11:51] <GuerrillaWon> Thanks for the help.
[11:51] <mwe> rnalexander: not even the files in your homedir show?
[11:51] <jazzrocker> mlissner, i would personally recommend compiling your own kernel custom for two reasons, one it's not that hard, two you'll learn something, three you'll still have your old kernel(s) to fall back on should you mess up
[11:51] <Godsey> oh sorry that isn't good
[11:51] <mwe> rnalexander: and did it finish so quickly?
[11:51] <VMT2007> GuerrillaWon: for GNOME?
[11:51] <jazzrocker> mlissner, lol i guess that's three reasons
[11:51] <IntuitiveNipple> juano: thanks... Google hasn't been a help and i've been looking for 4 hours
[11:51] <jpjacobs> GuerrillaWon, there is rdesktop
[11:51] <GuerrillaWon> It's not across a lan so I'll get to get into some tunneling.
[11:51] <RogerBacon> anyone have read this ? : http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt
[11:51] <rnalexander> I'm trapped at a (END) prompt.
[11:51] <rnalexander> control C won't get me out.
[11:51] <Flannel> VMT2007: cygwin is a lovely thing, and easy to install/carry around on a thumbdrive.  Not my fault windows is deficient.
[11:51] <juano> IntuitiveNipple: hehehe
[11:51] <GuerrillaWon> vmt2007 yes
[11:51] <mwe> rnalexander: press q
[11:51] <Philluminati> rdesktop isn't for connecting to windows machines!
[11:51] <rnalexander> got it,.
[11:51] <mlissner> jazzrocker, tough call. I will have the old one to fall back on in grub right?
[11:51] <jazzrocker> mlissner, because honestly, in order to really understand how to "just compile a driver" you should understand what i means to compile a kernel
[11:51] <jazzrocker> mlissner, correct
[11:51] <jazzrocker> mlissner, probably about 4 old grub entries actually
[11:52] <Philluminati> It's called "TSCLIENT"
[11:52] <mwe> rnalexander: I screwed up the command. sorry
[11:52] <jazzrocker> mlissner, i mean you can compile 10 different kernels if you want
[11:52] <VMT2007> Philluminati: yes it is
[11:52] <jazzrocker> mlissner, and put them all in GRUB
[11:52] <VMT2007> it handles RDP fine
[11:52] <jpjacobs> Philluminati, sure it is.
[11:52] <mwe> rnalexander: try find / |grep ryan|less instead
[11:52] <mlissner> jazzrocker, It's on. Thanks for the help, I have to go get coffee now - I've stalled as long as possible with my friends.
[11:52] <VMT2007> GuerrillaWon: sudo aptitude install rdesktop
[11:52] <jazzrocker> mlissner, hahaha
[11:52] <mlissner> jazzrocker, much, much appreciated.
[11:52] <Philluminati> wmt2007, jpjacobs....it is???? I've just done it. Terminal Services Client
[11:52] <VMT2007> when that is done, sudo aptitude moo
[11:52] <VMT2007> you need to do that
[11:52] <Wimpog> GUYS, How do I start LAMP server, once it is installed?
[11:52] <VMT2007> :)
[11:52] <jazzrocker> mlinp
[11:52] <IntuitiveNipple> juano: to be clear, I've got a RAID 1+0 on /dev/mapper/pdc_xxx with 8 partitions ( windows, data, extended, swap, boot, root, home) all mounted on /target and i've chroot-ed to /target
[11:53] <jpjacobs> that rdesktop _is_ a windows remote desktop client
[11:53] <rnalexander> mwe, I might have typed the command wrong, I was able to confirm that my home dire
[11:53] <mwe> rnalexander: or even better find / -user ryan|less
[11:53] <rnalexander> MWE, that's working, loads of files, mostly in my home directory.
[11:53] <pianoboy3333> webmaren: well, can you help me if I go to #ubuntu? I've been posting there for the past two hours and no one has said anything...
[11:53] <CDB> Awesome. I got access to my linux box from winxp, but I still can't "authenticate" windows from linux.
[11:53] <jazzrocker> Wimpog, /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[11:53] <mwe> rnalexander: the ones outside should be changed though
[11:53] <Philluminati> now i'm confused. I don't know what rdesktop is. I thought it was something to do with rsh. anyway gorilla, you want tsclient
[11:54] <jazzrocker> Wimpog, /etc/init.d/mysqld start
[11:54] <Victor````> wow, three `s is already registered
[11:54] <Victor````> oh wait
[11:54] <IntuitiveNipple> juano: GRUB finds stage1 & stage2, and writes the e2fs_stage1_5, but fails on the "install..."
[11:54] <pianoboy3333> When I try and print to a printer connected to an XP computer, in the printer's preferences, I get this error: Printing: No %%BoundingBox: comment in header! What does that mean?
[11:54] <rnalexander> mwe, loads of stuff in my /etc directory as well.  still paging.
[11:54] <CDB> it resolves but when i try to connect to the windows share, it asks for a domain and a password, but i am not under a domain.
[11:54] <jazzrocker> Wimpog, theoretically that will do it if it's not done already... then go to http://localhost/
[11:54] <mwe> rnalexander: oh
[11:54] <CDB> no matter what i try it fails
[11:54] <Wimpog> Where to go???
[11:54] <mwe> rnalexander: try find / -user ryan >badfiles.txt to get the names to a text file
[11:54] <Victor````> Guys, this IRC channel isn't the only avenue of help.
[11:55] <rnalexander> mwe dang, it's into bin and boot as well...
[11:55] <rnalexander> and dev
[11:55] <mwe> rnalexander: then you can remove the lines showing files in your homedir
[11:55] <snowkrash> in fact joining this channel never ever helped me out :)
[11:55] <mwe> rnalexander: yeah
[11:55] <juano> IntuitiveNipple: mm can't help much.. , sorry
[11:55] <CDB> does anyone have any experience accessing a windows network file share?
[11:55] <init6> How do I force ubuntu to use python 2.5 as default?
[11:55] <jpjacobs> Philluminati, if you don't believe me, see apt-cache show rdesktop
[11:55] <jazzrocker> Wimpog, do you know what a web browser is?
[11:55] <IntuitiveNipple> juano: thanks for trying.. you see why i'm looking for an expert? :D
[11:55] <Wimpog> yeah, I do know
[11:55] <Philluminati> jpjacobs. I do believe you.
[11:55] <mwe> rnalexander: try find / -user ryan >badfiles.txt to get the names to a text file
[11:55] <sten_> jazzrocker: <whew> I finally found it.  The problem was finding which design the ICH4 integrated.  googling "ich4 rtc" didn't help...but eventually I realized that "ich4 rtc compatible" might yield some results.
[11:55] <jazzrocker> Victor````, ++ (forums and wikis are your friends)
[11:56] <Wimpog> which URL you meant?
[11:56] <Victor````> WHAT? ubuntu forums are VBULLETIN?
[11:56] <un_operateur> init6, you don't because most packages depend on 2.4 and can't use 2.5 as it breaks quite a lot of functionality
[11:56] <Victor````> non-free forum software!
[11:56] <Victor````> shame.
[11:56] <kmag> does start-stop-daemon monkey with the LD_LIBRARY_PATH?
[11:56] <juano> IntuitiveNipple: :-), yep
[11:56] <ghatak> How diffirent is Ubuntu from Debian apart from the front end ?
[11:56] <rnalexander> okeys.  I think it stops after the files.  Can I use the txt file list to change them back?
[11:56] <mwe> rnalexander: well everything in /bin should be root.root
[11:56] <Victor````> ghatak: not much different
[11:56] <jazzrocker> ghatak, why do you ask? yeah not much
[11:56] <Victor````> the backend can mean many things
[11:56] <sten_> jazzrocker: the trouble is, it's a "Motorola MC 146818 Real-Time Clock plus RAM"...hmm
[11:56] <mwe> rnalexander: chown -R root.root /bin
[11:56] <GuerrillaWon> Nice I got rdesktop up and working fine.
[11:56] <Philluminati> ghatak. it's mostly the packages and their default configurations
[11:56] <init6> un_operateur:  Figured as much. Thanks for confirming.
[11:57] <GuerrillaWon> It's a bit choppy but it'll do, thanks guys.
[11:57] <Victor````> the kernel is the same across virtually all Linux distributions, albeit some do use 2.4 and others use 2.6
[11:57] <rnalexander> mwe, done.
[11:57] <sten_> omg... "a standard part of the IBM Personal Computer Architecture, from the introduction of the IBM-PC AT and continuing into the IBM PS/2 line of systems"
[11:57] <jazzrocker> ppl still use 2.4? wow
[11:57] <kmag> I've got a program that runs fine when started on the command line as root, but when I use start-stop-daemon (with no --chuid), I get link errors
[11:57] <ghatak> jazzrocker: we use debian Etch at our workplace and i am gona try Ubuntu at home, so was just wondering how much familiarity i will gain from debian
[11:57] <Godsey> Victor```: what forum software would you have them use?
[11:57] <san> \
[11:57] <killown> my system not works sound
[11:57] <Victor```> Godsey: phpBB.
[11:58] <killown> what I do?
[11:58] <jazzrocker> ghatak, um... plenty
[11:58] <Victor```> It may not be that great out of the box but it's sure extendable
[11:58] <jazzrocker> omg
[11:58] <Victor```> extensible, wow
[11:58] <jazzrocker> phpBB is a security hole... no lemme rephrase that... security canyon
[11:58] <un_operateur> ghatak, the only difference is some ubuntu packages don't work on debian -- but it seems the inverse it somewhat true tho
[11:58] <Victor```> that's true...
[11:58] <ghatak> Victor```: right, well that is beauty of Debian
[11:59] <rnalexander> mwe, ok, the new-made text file doesn't list /bin anymore.
[11:59] <jazzrocker> if i didn't work with PHP all day i might not know that... but i do
[11:59] <mwe> rnalexander: good
[11:59] <Godsey> Victor```: I recently read vbulletin pulls licenses arbritrarially, other than that the software is superior
[11:59] <rnalexander> BTW, when did folks shift to Less instead of More?  I feel like a total piker.
[11:59] <Godsey> maybe they should switch to sharepoint 2007 :)
[11:59] <PORDO> i finally got dmix working, but now i have sound from Flash coming out of my ICH5's analog, not digital.  digital is the default device in my asound.conf
[11:59] <mwe> rnalexander: everything in /etc/ should be root.root as well except /etc/cups
[11:59] <PORDO> anyone know why this might be?
[11:59] <ghatak> un_operateur: Well i am under the impression that Ubuntu will give me good secure system as debian but with much recent packages of software, unlike debian where u have to wait for ages to get a recent version
[11:59] <Victor```> Godsey: Simple Machines is free to an extent
[11:59] <un_operateur> rnalexander, less is more :)
[12:00] <Victor```> and that board software is very good
[12:00] <Godsey> Victor```: I hate web forum software
[12:00] <rnalexander> MWE, there's still file sin etc, but they're all in X11...
[12:00] <jazzrocker> rnalexander, ohhh... so text files are how you ls /bin
[12:00] <Godsey> nothing nntp can't solve :)
[12:00] <mwe> rnalexander: oh
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[12:00] <mwe> rnalexander: all of them?
[12:00] <mwe> rnalexander: the file may not be sorted
[12:00] <rnalexander> oop, no spoke too soon, etc's hosed as well.  calendar/ console/  cron
[12:00] <un_operateur> ghatak, well, thats one of the areas in which ubuntu varies from debian, ubuntu likes to be a bit more bleeding-edge while debian likes to count on stability, hence why debian seems to lag on some packages