[12:27] <ormiret> BBQ_Fetus: you can find out what the username is by looking in /home but if you want ot change it then a reinstall is probably the easiest way.
[12:27] <ormiret> esc: not sure, sorry.
[12:27] <esc> PuMpErNiCkLe, whats the difference between .bashrc and .bash_profile
[12:27] <esc> is .bash_profile just login shells?
[12:27] <BBQ_Fetus> do i have to be in root to look at /home?
[12:27] <esc> not to look at it no
[12:28] <esc> to modify it, yes :-)
[12:28] <BBQ_Fetus> how can i look at it?
[12:28] <esc> well you'll need to login first :-)
[12:28] <BBQ_Fetus> thats the problem
[12:28] <BBQ_Fetus> i cant log in
[12:28] <esc> you can use a live CD, like grml, for example to examine the file system
[12:28] <esc> or knoppix for that matter
[12:29] <BBQ_Fetus> it wont accept my username and pw i thought i created last night
[12:29] <ormiret> BBQ_Fetus: teh recovery mode doesn't require a login - you go straight to a priviledged shell
[12:30] <ormiret> from there you can look in /home to see what the username is and then reset the password for the user with the passwd command
[12:30] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bash_profile is read a login, bashrc is for non-login terminals.
[12:30] <PuMpErNiCkLe> s/a login/at login/
[12:31] <esc> PuMpErNiCkLe, so if i go and modify the PATH in .bashrc, it'll go adding stuff to PATH with every shell i open eh lol :-)
[12:31] <ormiret> esc: only in that shell, not systemwide
[12:31] <BBQ_Fetus> so when i get to root type /home
[12:31] <BBQ_Fetus> ?
[12:31] <esc> try ls //home
[12:31] <esc> minus one /
[12:32] <ormiret> BBQ_Fetus: 'ls /home/' will list one directory for each user
[12:33] <BBQ_Fetus> it showed the txt
[12:33] <BBQ_Fetus> "oem" in blue
[12:33] <BBQ_Fetus> is that my username?
[12:33] <ormiret> no, in that case you've done an OEM install and haven't configured it for your user yet.
[12:34] <ormiret> hang on a sec I'll look up the instructions
[12:34] <esc> by default directories are colored blue :-)
[12:34] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !oem
[12:34] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[12:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Blah... those links are completely useless.
[12:36] <DarthLappy> PuMpErNiCkLe: Ya.
[12:39] <ormiret> BBQ_Fetus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview
[12:41] <BBQ_Fetus> okay
[12:41] <BBQ_Fetus> so oem is the username
[12:42] <BBQ_Fetus> with the pw i selected?
[12:42] <Pirate-king> is there anyway to fix a login password
[12:45] <superkirbyartist> Maxamillion: We returned the wireless card.
[12:46] <superkirbyartist> And we got the one that claimed compatability.
[12:46] <maxamillion> ok
[12:46] <BBQ_Fetus> okay, im in guys
[12:46] <superkirbyartist> Sadly, after tests and tests, it didn't work, and the computer complained with an error message : "unable to power slot"
[12:47] <maxamillion> superkirbyartist: what does "lspcmcia" say?
[12:47] <superkirbyartist> So we left the big computer store and went to a smaller store
[12:47] <BBQ_Fetus> now that im at the desktop, how can i troubleshoot my display problems,  i can somewhat make out the display
[12:47] <superkirbyartist> We gave up and aimed for Ethernet products.
[12:47] <superkirbyartist> There is a 45$ card that works perfectly.
[12:48] <superkirbyartist> But I bought the 15$ USB-to-Ethernet cable to ty
[12:48] <superkirbyartist> try to make it work, since it was cheaper.
[12:48] <maxamillion> cool
[12:48] <superkirbyartist> Now, the question is, how can I get the cable to work?
[12:50] <superkirbyartist> Sorry, just went to go get laptop.
[12:52] <superkirbyartist> So how can I get my cable to work?
[12:52] <BBQ_Fetus> how can i manually set the resolution in the GUI? it only lets me select a max of 1024 x 768
[12:52] <BBQ_Fetus> and the right half of the screen is flickering badly
[12:52] <BBQ_Fetus> but this is the best i have gotten it to display thus far
[12:52] <BBQ_Fetus> so i have hope
[12:53] <superkirbyartist> Anyone?
[12:54] <maxamillion> superkirbyartist: what do you mean by "getting my cable to work"?
[12:55] <maxamillion> BBQ_Fetus: in Applications->Settings->Display Settings
[12:55] <superkirbyartist> I plug it into usb port on laptop, the other end is ethernet (plugged to modem).
[12:57] <BBQ_Fetus> yes i know, thats where i was at
[12:57] <BBQ_Fetus> but 1024 x 768 is the max setting it gives me
[12:57] <BBQ_Fetus> and i still have display problems
[12:57] <superkirbyartist> http://tinyurl.com/yljgtu is the product
[12:57] <BBQ_Fetus> the right side of the screen flickers badly
[12:57] <BBQ_Fetus> but the whole left side displays fine
[12:58] <BBQ_Fetus> where can i manually edit the resolution?
[12:58] <BBQ_Fetus> so i can select it in the display properties
[01:02] <BBQ_Fetus> anyone?
[01:04] <maxamillion> BBQ_Fetus: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:05] <maxamillion> BBQ_Fetus: the resolutions are listed towards the bottom of the file ... you can't miss them, there will be alot of them
[01:06] <BBQ_Fetus> do i run that in a terminal?
[01:07] <DarthLappy> That's the config file.
[01:07] <BBQ_Fetus> do i get to it from a terminal?
[01:08] <DarthLappy> You can edit it with sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:12] <Flashall> hello everyone
[01:12] <DarthLappy> Hello.
[01:14] <Flashall> i'm promoting a very interesting  poll on which should be the default email client in xubuntu
[01:14] <Flashall> please visit this link: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=332781 and give your opinion
[01:14] <superkirbyartist> Maxamillion?
[01:17] <Flashall> Really all your opinion would be really be important. I think, that is an important thread, I've also contacted the claws mail developers to keepm in touch with the thread
[01:17] <maxamillion> superkirbyartist: what?
[01:17] <superkirbyartist> How can I get the Nexxtech USB to Ethernet cable to work?
[01:17] <Flashall> i think that we all can benefit from a more efficient email client that Thunderbird
[01:18] <maxamillion> superkirbyartist: i have never heard of that device, why would i know how to make it functional?
[01:18] <superkirbyartist> Anyone?
[01:20] <maxamillion> superkirbyartist: something like that isn't specific to xubuntu ... you might want to try asking in #ubuntu ... there are generally more users in there and someone might be able to help
[01:21] <Flashall> hey cool one of the claws mail developers offered his support on ubuntu forums, for enhancing claws mail experience in xubuntu. That would be very benefit :D
[01:22] <Flashall> he's offering help to xubuntu developer team
[01:22] <kalikiana7> Flashall: If they improved html mail support Claws Mail might be a pretty nice default client.
[01:24] <Flashall> kalikiana, yes i agree, but i think that we should take advantage of thei're help. and kalikiana7 you can add that topic to the poll
[01:25] <Flashall> Thunderbird as firefix, it's to "memory leaked" :P and in low end PC's often blocks
[01:27] <BBQ_Fetus> okay guys can u walk me thru this, how to configure my monitor settings to display correctly
[01:27] <BBQ_Fetus> this is my monitor
[01:27] <BBQ_Fetus> specs
[01:27] <BBQ_Fetus> http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/monitors/p1110/En/specs.htm
[01:34] <kalikiana> Flashall: I posted and voted, now it's up to the developers and the Xubuntu team. :)
[01:35] <crimsun> to replace moz-tbird with gtk2 syl-claws?
[01:36] <Flashall> kalikiana,  thanks for your support, please spread this poll for all the xubuntu users you know, i've been promissed by the claws mail developers that they would keep that thread under the eye
[01:36] <maxamillion> crimsun: yes, that seems to be what the majority would like to see happen for feisty and there is even a claws devel who would like to help make it happen
[01:37] <vidd_laptop> what i miss?
[01:37] <Flashall> this thread can also help to gice claws mail developers a better feadback of their application, and can help them improve much features
[01:37] <maxamillion> vidd_laptop: lemme get you a link
[01:37] <kalikiana> vid: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=332781
[01:37] <maxamillion> yeah ... that's the one
[01:38] <crimsun> people must learn to migrate feature requests to -devel and launchpad
[01:38] <Flashall> sorry about my bad english in the thread
[01:38] <crimsun> most of us don't read the forum
[01:39] <vidd_laptop> lol...check this quote:
[01:39] <vidd_laptop> Windows (n): A 32 bit shell for a 16 bit operating system,
[01:39] <vidd_laptop> originally written for an 8 bit processor on a 4 bit bus by a 2 bit company
[01:39] <vidd_laptop> that can't stand 1 bit of competition! - Anon
[01:39] <maxamillion> crimsun: i do ... i can be the bridge ;)
[01:39] <crimsun> you've got your work cut out for you :p
[01:40] <maxamillion> vidd_laptop: nice, where'd you find that?
[01:40] <maxamillion> crimsun: yeah, i've noticed ... only been on the forums for like a week and a half, have to check them 2 or 3 times a day to partially keep up
[01:40] <vidd_laptop> on that link
[01:40] <Flashall> well crimsun you could help spread the forum poll in the feature requests to -devel and launchpad. i'm not registered on those :(
[01:40] <maxamillion> vidd_laptop: oh ... hrh
[01:40] <maxamillion> heh*
[01:41] <crimsun> Flashall: I could, but I don't care enough about either moz-tbird or gtk2 syl-claws to do so
[01:41] <crimsun> i.e., the current default does not annoy me enough to do so
[01:41] <Flashall> crimsun,  which email u use? mutt?
[01:41] <maxamillion> Flashall: it has been spoken about in -devel and i don't really see a big conversation community on launchpad
[01:41] <crimsun> however, since this is a community-driven derivative, if the community puts forth the effort, then the community can make it happen
[01:42] <crimsun> Flashall: all those
[01:42] <maxamillion> crimsun: i told the devel who wants to help to post on the mailing list, if he does i figure we can then see who is interested and go from there
[01:43] <maxamillion> claws devel*
[01:44] <vidd_laptop> there is a default e-mail client?
[01:44] <Flashall> maxamillion,  i have sponken with some xubuntu users, and they don't understand why thunderbird is the default choice fot GUI email client, since its much of a resource eater
[01:44] <maxamillion> Flashall: the same argument happens all the time over firefox
[01:44] <Flashall> i think there are many users as i , that want a change :)
[01:45] <Flashall> maxamillion,  you are correct, however claws mail has al the major features that thunderbird has
[01:45] <Flashall> even supports themes and plugins
[01:45] <vidd_laptop> is claws in the repo's?
[01:45] <crimsun> yes, it's in the repo.
[01:46] <Flashall> vidd_laptop, u can download the latest version from the repos of the site :) they have repos for dapper and edgy
[01:46] <vidd_laptop> cool...but i dont like adding repo's to my sources list
[01:47] <maxamillion> Flashall: claws does not atopt the users gtk theme and does not have html support ...
[01:47] <Flashall> maxamillion, yes but if the developers colaborate they can change that
[01:47] <maxamillion> !sylpheed-claws-gtk2
[01:47] <ubotu> sylpheed-claws-gtk2: Fast, lightweight and user-friendly GTK2 based email client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0~rc3-1 (edgy), package size 1244 kB, installed size 2760 kB
[01:47] <maxamillion> vidd_laptop: its in the repos
[01:48] <vidd_laptop> kk
[01:48] <vidd_laptop> 2.6.1 is the latest...
[01:48] <maxamillion> Flashall: well, lets take one step at a time and work on that ... i just don't want to put all this effort into "selling" the idea to the dev team and the user community to have the features we need not implemented in time for feisty's release
[01:48] <kalikiana> Html and Theming are just the two points I critisized in the thread and which I'd say have to be fixed when Claws Mail becomes the default client.
[01:48] <maxamillion> vidd_laptop: ooooh, ok
[01:49] <maxamillion> kalikiana: yeah, i took those as examples from your post ;)
[01:49] <kalikiana> Oh, ok *g
[01:49] <crimsun> do I need to upload 2.6.1?
[01:49] <crimsun> no one seems to complain that it's not present in 7.04
[01:50] <Flashall> i've spoke earlier with Colin Leroy, one of the project leaders , and he was interested in given all the support needed for helping xubuntu experience, and  improve user experience
[01:50] <vidd_laptop> crimsun, can you add it to the repo's?
[01:50] <Flashall> so we can expect good things, although i agree with you maxamillion
[01:51] <crimsun> vidd_laptop: I'm not going to unless there's a rabid group of people who can't live without it
[01:51] <crimsun> (and I'm speaking of 7.04, not 6.06 or 6.10)
[01:51] <maxamillion> crimsun: i personally think you shouldn't bother with the effort until there is enough organization and support behind these conversations
[01:51] <vidd_laptop> ....
[01:53] <Flashall> kalikiana,  you can download a tango theme to claws mail
[01:54] <Flashall>      TangoClaws
[01:54] <Flashall> 	Author: Frederik Elwert
[01:54] <Flashall> View all icons 	Download (32 kB)
[01:54] <Flashall> Downloads: 1479
[01:54] <Flashall> i think that one of your complaints its easy to overcome ;)
[01:55] <maxamillion> Flashall: what if the user wants to alter their theme ... claws will still hold the theme we set it to
[01:56] <crimsun> sigh, a name change to boot
[01:56] <crimsun> I -love- that crack.
[01:56] <maxamillion> Flashall: and you know that would be one of the common questions we answer around here too
[01:58] <Flashall> sorry maxamillion  i didn't understood what is your point
[01:59] <vidd_laptop> Flashall, everyone and thier brother will be asking how to change themes
[01:59] <vidd_laptop> i think
[01:59] <maxamillion> Flashall: well if the installation package has the gtk theme to match the desktop, if the user wanted to change their theme then claws wouldn't change with it, it itself would have to be re-themed and alot of users would complain
[02:00] <vidd_laptop> is there a way to link the two?
[02:00] <maxamillion> probably
[02:00] <Flashall> maxamillion,  know i undestand your point
[02:00] <vidd_laptop> question...does thundebird have a theme thing?
[02:01] <Flashall> vidd_laptop,  yes
[02:01] <vidd_laptop> does thunderbird's theme correspond with the desktop theme?
[02:02] <Flashall> no, i think it is the default mozilla thunderbird theme
[02:02] <vidd_laptop> or do you have to manually reconfigure it too?
[02:02] <maxamillion> yeah ... mozilla just kinda does its own thing
[02:03] <vidd_laptop> then i think the "theme mismatch" is a mute point
[02:03] <Flashall> yap, thats also true
[02:03] <vidd_laptop> if the alternative dont do it, then having this "claws" do it (or able to do it) is just a bonus
[02:04] <maxamillion> vidd_laptop: yeah ... guess that's true
[02:04] <BBQ_Fetus> how do i get back to the gui from an alt cntrl f2
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[02:04] <Flashall> however even if thunderbird is included in the next release, i think that claws mail, is a healthy competition  :) and we all can benefit
[02:04] <BBQ_Fetus> awwww that you
[02:05] <maxamillion> Flashall: true
[02:05] <vidd_laptop> BBQ_Fetus, ???
[02:06] <maxamillion> vidd_laptop: i think he ment "thank you"
[02:08] <vidd_laptop> not enough coffee
[02:08] <maxamillion> vidd_laptop: yeah, story of my life... there will never be enough coffee
[02:09] <vidd_laptop> maxamillion, IS there such a thing?
[02:09] <maxamillion> vidd_laptop: apparently not ....
[02:09] <maxamillion> vidd_laptop: drink coffee all day and still fall asleep that night ... doesn't make sense
[02:11] <vidd_laptop> maxamillion, if I DONT get coffee b4 bed, i CANT sleep
[02:13] <maxamillion> vidd_laptop: well that's just addiction
[02:13] <maxamillion> at its best i might add ;)
[02:14] <crimsun> coffee's like water here; I just drink it whenever
[02:15] <vidd_laptop> water? what's that?....oh the stuff you make coffee with!!!
[02:15] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Mead ftw; cheers.
[02:16] <vidd_laptop> mead?
[02:16] <vidd_laptop> is that like beer?
[02:17] <PuMpErNiCkLe> No, it's fermented honey.
[02:17] <crimsun> that would kill me
[02:17] <crimsun> being type II and all.
[02:17] <vidd_laptop> on occasion i dont drink coffee b4 bed....i dring soda
[02:18] <vidd_laptop> crimsun, dont you have a shot or something to cure that?
[02:18] <vidd_laptop> PuMpErNiCkLe, sounds like an aquired taste
[02:19] <PuMpErNiCkLe> It is, a bit.
[02:19] <vidd_laptop> somerville32 must be away...he hasnt chased us to offtopic yet
[02:19] <vidd_laptop> =] 
[02:20] <crimsun> vidd_laptop: pricking myself every drink would suck.
[02:20] <vidd_laptop> so take a shot drink three and then prick
[02:20] <crimsun> it's the same deal
[02:20] <vidd_laptop> (if you can still shot straight)
[02:21] <crimsun> the path of laziness dictates that I stick w/ water
[02:22] <vidd_laptop> =] 
[02:22] <maxamillion> so ... i found out this machine wouldn't boot a 2.6 kernel, i install debian sarge because it offers a 2.4 kernel by default _and_ recognizes this random ethernet card so i get everything installed and working but i want to run lighttpd on it which is only offered in etch and sid ... what do i do? think to myself "why not just upgrade to etch?" ... well i did, now i have to start over because the 2.6 kernel of etch 
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[02:23] <vidd_laptop> lol
[02:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Build it yourself. ^^
[02:23] <maxamillion> PuMpErNiCkLe: i plan to do so this time around
[02:24] <maxamillion> PuMpErNiCkLe: well, no ... i think i am just going to use Boa because i only wanna host a wiki, files, and a web page on this thing
[02:25] <crimsun> !lighttpd
[02:25] <ubotu> lighttpd: A fast webserver with minimal memory footprint. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.13~r1370-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 288 kB, installed size 852 kB
[02:25] <crimsun> so...about it only being in etch and sid ...
[02:26] <crimsun> heck, there's really no excuse
[02:26] <crimsun> !lighttpd dapper
[02:26] <ubotu> lighttpd: A fast webserver with minimal memory footprint. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.11-3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 273 kB, installed size 828 kB
[02:26] <maxamillion> crimsun: ubuntu hasn't done a 2.4 kernel since 5.10 and 5.10 won't boot on this thing, only 5.04 and 5.04 won't see the ethernet card but debian sarge will
[02:27] <maxamillion> crimsun: and lighttpd isn't in the sarge repo ... only etch and sid
[02:27] <crimsun> Ubuntu has never used a 2.4 kernel.
[02:27] <vidd_laptop> crimsun, that is an incorrect statement
[02:27] <crimsun> is it now?
[02:28] <crimsun> I invite to you investigate our 4.10 release, which shipped with 2.6.8.1
[02:28] <crimsun> and you'd be almost positively incorrect.
[02:28] <maxamillion> crimsun: i insalled 2.4.27 on 5.04 on this machine last night
[02:29] <crimsun> seriously, go download a 4.10 iso and see
[02:29] <maxamillion> crimsun: from the installation cd i got through shipit
[02:29] <crimsun> yes, you -can- install a 2.4 kernel
[02:29] <maxamillion> crimsun: i'm not doubting you, but the 2.4 was able to be used for install back then and isn't now
[02:29] <crimsun> we have never and won't ship a 2.4 in the default install.
[02:29] <maxamillion> yes, that i know and you shouldn't
[02:31] <crimsun> it would be beneficial to make the card work under 2.6
[02:31] <vidd_laptop> what is the lspcmcia for the card?
[02:32] <vidd_laptop> hack it till it hurts -- i mean WORKS --
[02:32] <maxamillion> crimsun: its not so much the card, the whole system won't boot on 2.6 ... its a sony picturebook with all external peripherals and the 2.6 kernel won't see the cd-rom drive after the kernel loads so i can't install anything .... knoppix won't even boot on this thing with 2.6
[02:32] <Flashall> well guys got to go sleep
[02:33] <Flashall> good knight or good day ;)
[02:33] <Flashall> knight=night eheheh tricky english
[02:34] <maxamillion> lol
[02:34] <maxamillion> night
[02:45] <cellofellow> hello
[02:45] <vidd_laptop> *wave* cellofellow
[02:45] <cellofellow> :)
[02:49] <cellofellow> hi kalikiana
[02:51] <cellofellow> huh
[02:53] <vidd_laptop> tapioka noodles?
[02:53] <vidd_laptop> coco sause?
[02:58] <kalikiana> yeah, from an asian shop :)
[02:58] <kalikiana> only i should've thinned the sauce, it's pretty sweat
[03:07] <mdfrostt> all:  having trouble running BOINC.  it's installed into /usr/BOINC.  if I cd to that directory and run "./boincmgr" it runs correctly, but if I run "/usr/BOINC/boincmgr" the program opens but won't connect to localhost.  any ideas?
[03:12] <ormiret> the only diference there should be would be the current working directory, try running 'PWD="/usr/BOINC"; /usr/BOINC/boincmgr' from somewhere else
[03:13] <mdfrostt> ormiret: no dice.
[03:15] <ormiret> not sure what's wrong with it then, a script (or alias) to do the cd and then run boinc might be worth a try though.
[03:16] <remyzero> hello
[03:17] <mdfrostt> forgive me for being ignorant, but I'm very new to linux (today's my first day) and I haven't a clue how to do that.  any chance you could walk me through creating a script or alias?
[03:17] <cellofellow> I know scripts, alias's on the other hand, I don't know.
[03:17] <snook353> how do i take a screenshot on xubuntu?
[03:17] <snook353> i saw it somewhere, but i don't remember how
[03:18] <cellofellow> snook353: add the screenshot plugin to the panel, then click it.
[03:18] <maxamillion> snook353: default ... use gimp, i recommend installing scrot
[03:18] <maxamillion> !scrot
[03:18] <ubotu> scrot: command line screen capture utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-7 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB
[03:18] <maxamillion> snook353: well ... yeah, that too :P ...
[03:18] <cellofellow> the panel plugin works for me.
[03:18] <maxamillion> yeah, the panel plugin is good ... i forgot about that one
[03:19] <mdfrostt> ormiret: nevermind.  I just found out that it comes with a script, and I should have been using it in the first place (run_manager instead of boincmgr)  thanks anyway!
[03:20] <ormiret> mdfrostt: and I'd almost finished typing an explanation of how to make a script :)
[03:20] <remyzero> if the manufacturer of a mobo doesnt supply drivers for linux, is there a site that has them?
[03:21] <cellofellow> drivers should just be in the kernel.
[03:21] <remyzero> for the intel 945 chipset
[03:23] <remyzero> oh, i am looking at maxamillion post in the forum ;)
[03:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Those are definitely included by default.
[03:25] <remyzero> and the rest of the drivers for the mobo?
[03:25] <remyzero> onboard video and network?
[03:25] <cellofellow> maybe it's the video and the sound and such.
[03:26] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Most likely included.  The video may require a proprietary driver for full 3d acceleration, but that would be in the repository if there was one.
[03:26] <remyzero> ah thank you
[03:27] <remyzero> the default video driver works
[03:27] <remyzero> not wel
[03:27] <remyzero> *well
[03:28] <cellofellow> I've never had an Intel video card on linux, so I don't know which driver works best. I've an nvidia.
[03:28] <remyzero> and when i update xubuntu the desktop exits to cli after logging on
[03:28] <cellofellow> odd.
[03:28] <PuMpErNiCkLe> The intel drivers are included by default, one version only, since Intel releases their driver source code.
[03:28] <Pirate-king> how do you get isa sound cards to work with xubuntu
[03:28] <remyzero> so i think i need to keep searching
[03:39] <remyzero> this sounds promising
[03:39] <remyzero> "Compiling and/or upgrading video drivers in Linux is a complex and error-prone task."
[03:39] <cellofellow> I've upgraded binary drivers fine.
[03:39] <remyzero> i guess that's what makes it a challenge
[03:39] <remyzero> lol
[04:02] <vidd_laptop> is there a way to find out if linuxBIOS will work on your old motherboard WITHOUT craking the case?
[07:04] <nixternal> somerville32: ping?
[07:04] <somerville32> nixternal, pong-a-dee-pong :)
[07:04] <nixternal> hehe
[07:04] <nixternal> hey, so Xubuntu is a registered trademark as well correct?
[07:05] <somerville32> I guess so :] 
[07:05] <nixternal> I have received mix messages from "Canonical" employees on it, and I noticed you sparked up a convo in doc
[07:05] <nixternal> well, Canonical pissed me off for sending a Holiday card that had the Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Edubuntu logo and no Xubuntu logo.
[07:06] <nixternal> it was for the Fridge, but I replied and said I wouldn't add it since it didn't have Xubuntu on there, and never heard back
[07:06] <somerville32> lol
[07:06] <somerville32> nixternal, Do you use Xubuntu?
[07:06] <nixternal> on my old laptop i do
[07:06] <somerville32> :] 
[07:06] <somerville32> Dapper or Edgy?
[07:06] <nixternal> Edgy
[07:06] <somerville32> Feisty is going to be awesome. :] 
[07:06] <nixternal> will put feisty on it shortly for some testing
[07:07] <somerville32> Infact, Feisty is already really cool :] 
[07:07] <nixternal> sweet
[07:07] <somerville32> It has a gui config tool for the compositor (no need to edit an xml file now)
[07:07] <nixternal> ya, I dual boot that machine with Xubuntu and gNewSense actually
[07:07] <somerville32> And things are much more glossy
[07:07] <somerville32> :] 
[07:07] <somerville32> Like, the windows decorations are absolutely beautiful
[07:07] <nixternal> i shall dl and install it tomorrow
[07:08] <somerville32> nixternal: I'd wait a few days
[07:08] <nixternal> i can do that
[07:08] <nixternal> i know one of the lead guys in my LUG is in love with Xubuntu
[07:08] <nixternal> even on his new 64bit machines he runs it.
[07:08] <somerville32> LD
[07:09] <somerville32> *:D
[07:09] <nixternal> hehe
[07:09] <somerville32> I know a lot of people who have nice powerful machines that use Xubuntu too
[07:09] <crimsun> I know, it's sooo much better than that crazy komodo dragony thing with the purple wallpaper.
[07:09] <nixternal> heh
[07:10] <nixternal> i think i catch the drift of that one crimsun, especially the purple wallpaper portion
[07:10] <nixternal> hence, i don't use that anyways :)
[07:10] <crimsun> better close this konsole tab
[07:10] <crimsun> err I mean
[07:10] <nixternal> hahahahaha
[07:10] <nixternal> busted!
[07:10] <nixternal> i wish there was a xatapult for xfce :)
[07:10] <nixternal> im so used to alt+space that it is hard to work other DE's
[07:12] <crimsun> interesting
[07:12] <crimsun> I'm just lazy and use a terminal emulator
[07:36] <HeathenDan> how do i include /media in slocate's db? it seems updatedb does not index it
[08:31] <saviles> how can i edit and organize the applications menu? do i have to install a package or is there one provided by default? if that's so, i haven't found it. any help wouldbe appreciated.
[08:37] <somerville32> saviles: Right click, edit menu
[08:39] <saviles> somerville32: i've tried that, but i can't get int to the other sub-menus (accessories, office, other, etc)
[08:39] <somerville32> IT is a known bug unfortunately :(
[08:39] <gpocentek> well it's not really a bug
[08:39] <saviles> a 'feature'?
[08:39] <gpocentek> it's more a missing feature
[08:40] <gpocentek> the menu uses the .desktop files in /usr/share/applications
[08:40] <gpocentek> and there's no way to change this in Xfce
[08:41] <somerville32> (currently)
[08:41] <saviles> gpocentek: i did manage to read that one someone's blog. i'm assuming the "Categories:" section in that file is what manages the shortcuts location?
[08:42] <gpocentek> yes
[08:42] <maxamillion> brb
[08:43] <saviles> out of curiousity, has the Xfce-menueditor ever been able to do it, like in previous versions?
[08:44] <kalikiana> How can I easily get "ps -lA" to sort by cpu usage?
[08:56] <saviles> thanks for all your help.
[08:56] <saviles> have a good day/night.
[08:59] <somerville32> Hmm.. I don't seem to have any sound in flash 9 with Firefox 2.1
[09:00] <maxamillion> somerville32: there was a post about that on the forums
[09:00] <somerville32> maxamillion, OooOoo.. got a link? :] 
[09:00] <maxamillion> somerville32: don't remember much about it ... but i remember there being a post, lemme check
[09:01] <maxamillion> somerville32: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=314718&highlight=no+sound+flash
[09:01] <somerville32> thanks :] 
[09:02] <maxamillion> anytime :)
[11:48] <avalon> Is there a way to use my USB memory stick as a general login for my Kubuntu installation? Also, can I store all my passwords on it?
[11:50] <somerville32> avalon: This is the #xubuntu support channel for Xubuntu. Have you tried #kubuntu?
[01:00] <Stonekeeper> hello. is installing xubuntu off a HD identical to the steps to install ubuntu off a hd? thanks
[01:03] <DarthLappy> Stonekeeper: Other than the different packages, I should imagine so.
[01:04] <Stonekeeper> Cool. There is lots of info for doing this from windows but not linux. I'm guessing it's roughly the same with a few grub tweaks?
[01:05] <DarthLappy> Yeah, probably.
[01:08] <Stonekeeper> you know, i hate being beaten. I got a laptop off my brother. They had win2k on it but "ripping cds was slow". Some "expert" upgraded win2k for them and killed the system. I've been trying to get xubuntu on it but it fails with lots of IO errors reading CDs. DSL works ok, but i guess it might being so small. If I can get xubuntu on it I've won, regardless of if they get rid of it later :D
[01:09] <DarthLappy> :)
[01:10] <Stonekeeper> I *never* lose >:)
[01:11] <DarthLappy> 'Course not, it's Linux.
[01:11] <Stonekeeper> you know quite a bit about it?
[01:11] <DarthLappy> Not so sure about that.
[01:11] <DarthLappy> I know enough for me.
[01:12] <Stonekeeper> DSL is pretty cool, but i like the *buntu infrastructure
[01:12] <Stonekeeper> updates/synaptic etc
[01:12] <DarthLappy> I'm pretty sure DSL is meant to stay as a LiveCD.
[01:13] <Stonekeeper> bah, you can HD install it
[01:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> You can install it.  You can even upgrade to Debian from it.
[01:13] <Stonekeeper> s/b/n
[01:13] <DarthLappy> I know you can.
[01:13] <Stonekeeper> mornign PuMpErNiCkLe
[01:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> moin
[01:13] <DarthLappy> But I think it works better as a LiveCD than from the HD.
[01:18] <Stonekeeper> i'm only using it for a grub install :)
[01:29] <Stonekeeper> if i'm right, in grub th (hd0,0) thing is HD number 0 partition 0?
[01:29] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Yes.
[01:30] <Stonekeeper> cool. I really hope this works ;)
[01:33] <Stonekeeper> According to the instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows    the initrd line suggests that it is in a boot directory. This does not exist on the cd. should that be install/initrd.gz ?
[01:38] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Probably.
[01:39] <Stonekeeper> I will not be beaten by a stinking old failing CD drive!! >:)
[01:39] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Rock on.
[01:42] <Stonekeeper> I've not used xubuntu much. Does thunar come up on insertion of usb pendrives?
[01:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> You should just get an icon on the desktop.
[01:46] <Stonekeeper> cool that's good enough :)
[01:46] <Stonekeeper> i guess update-manager is still the same?
[01:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Yeah, same application.
[01:47] <Stonekeeper> btw, did you find out why gnome was installed yesterday?
[01:47] <Stonekeeper> was it the atrwork pulling it in?
[01:47] <PuMpErNiCkLe> The artwork shouldn't have done it.  Did you have any non-official repos enabled at that point?
[01:48] <PuMpErNiCkLe> (They may have messed up the dependency tree.)
[01:48] <Stonekeeper> it wasn't me who reported it
[01:48] <Stonekeeper> however, I'm about to do a default install so I'll look at it if you want
[01:48] <PuMpErNiCkLe> k
[01:49] <Stonekeeper> that's if i can get this cd to copy to usb without messing up
[01:50] <Stonekeeper> was copying the pressed directory and it came up with all sorts of funky chars. Trying it via reiserfs now, see if that fixes it
[01:52] <Nestor> hola ayuda alguna pagina que me diga como conectar xubuntu a internet que se configura?
[01:53] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !es
[01:53] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:55] <Nestor> ok
[01:56] <Nestor> y help me  please . how conect xubuntu a internet?
[01:57] <tim_> how do you connect?
[01:57] <Stonekeeper> Nestor: adsl? dial up?
[01:57] <Nestor> yes adsl
[01:58] <tim_> you have a usb modem, or an ethernet connection?
[01:59] <Nestor> ethernet connetion
[01:59] <tim_> should be easy enough then..
[02:00] <Nestor> network card  Dlink DFE 520tx
[02:00] <tim_> can you open up a terminal and type 'ifconfig' ?
[02:00] <Nestor> say me how
[02:00] <tim_> terminal will be in the menu somewhere
[02:01] <tim_> i have no xubuntu machine here.  so not sure where
[02:01] <Nestor> alguna page in internet
[02:01] <Nestor> :(
[02:01] <tim_> alguna?
[02:02] <Nestor> pages in internet for I connetion
[02:02] <Stonekeeper> ah dont worry about that, just find a terminal
[02:02] <tim_> alt + F2  ?
[02:02] <tim_> xterm?
[02:03] <tim_> yeah..
[02:03] <Stonekeeper> Application->system->terminal
[02:03] <Stonekeeper> (OSDir tours are useful for something!) :)
[02:04] <tim_> hehe..  are the words changed though if Nestor uses Spanish settings..
[02:04] <Stonekeeper> for sure
[02:04] <Nestor> say me tim_ is equal
[02:04] <Nestor> ubuntu
[02:05] <Nestor> say me tim_ is equal que ubutnu?
[02:05] <tim_> press alt + f2
[02:05] <Stonekeeper> Nestor: xubuntu = Ubuntu - Gnome
[02:05] <tim_> and type:
[02:05] <tim_> xterm
[02:05] <tim_> and hit enter
[02:05] <Nestor> terminal
[02:05] <Nestor> ipconfig
[02:05] <Stonekeeper> ifconfig
[02:06] <Nestor> moreaya
[02:06] <Nestor> ok
[02:06] <Stonekeeper> eth0? eth1?
[02:07] <Nestor> :(????
[02:07] <Stonekeeper> (Isn't there an xfce equivalent of Gnome networking to set this up?)
[02:07] <tim_> probably.. heh
[02:07] <Stonekeeper> what does ifconfig say Nestar?
[02:07] <tim_> surprised it isn't working out of the box though
[02:07] <Stonekeeper> me too
[02:07] <tim_> as he's likely to be using dhcp
[02:07] <Stonekeeper> it's probably because he's NOT using dhcp :)
[02:08] <tim_> hopefully :)
[02:08] <Stonekeeper> Nestor? ifconfig = ??
[02:09] <Nestor> ifconfig x10 192.168.1.3?
[02:09] <tim_> x10 ?
[02:09] <Stonekeeper> Nestor, estoy utilizando el babelfish en google satisfago tan sea paciente. Cul es la salida del comando del ifconfig?
[02:10] <Nestor> I want configure other machine a home
[02:10] <Nestor> thx for all
[02:10] <Stonekeeper> ah ok, machine not with you?
[02:11] <Nestor> I go to say
[02:11] <Nestor> thx <tim_> and <Stonekeeper>
[02:11] <Stonekeeper> :)
[02:12] <tim_> heh
[02:12] <Stonekeeper> wow
[02:12] <Stonekeeper> that was unusual :)
[02:12] <tim_> for sure..
[02:12] <Stonekeeper> i think he's off home to connect here to talk
[02:12] <Stonekeeper> so he has machine with him
[02:12] <Stonekeeper> i *think*
[02:12] <tim_> yeah.. i think so :)
[02:13] <Stonekeeper> lol - that was like having constipation :)
[02:13] <tim_> hah
[02:14] <Stonekeeper> there is a system->networking option. I'm *pretty* sure that's what he can use
[02:14] <Stonekeeper> er...hang on... if the machine is at home, where did the x10 line come from? o_O
[02:14] <tim_> who knows..
[02:14] <Stonekeeper> ...
[02:14] <Stonekeeper> damnit usb1 is slow...
[02:15] <tim_> unless he was asking if that was the line he could use to set it up..
[02:15] <Stonekeeper> yes, i think you're right
[02:15] <Stonekeeper> out of interest, is xubuntu an officially recognized ubuntu?
[02:15] <tim_> yeah, i think so..
[02:15] <Stonekeeper> shame they dont link to it off ubuntu.com
[02:16] <Stonekeeper> it always talks about the big 3
[02:16] <tim_> ah, i thought they did..
[02:16] <tim_> maybe it isn't then
[02:16] <tim_> http://www.ubuntu.com/  <-- it's on the right there
[02:16] <Stonekeeper> flip! i cant get xubuntu off my pendrive now! Man, this thing is cursed
[02:16] <Stonekeeper> whoah! ok! :)
[02:18] <Stonekeeper> how the heck can i get a permission denied if i'm root?
[02:18] <tim_> is it a fat filesystem?
[02:18] <Stonekeeper> no reiser
[02:18] <tim_> doesn't support user permissions..
[02:18] <tim_> ah
[02:18] <tim_> dunno then :)
[02:18] <Stonekeeper> the fat one corrupted filenames
[02:18] <tim_> or maybe it is mounted with ro
[02:18] <tim_> and you need rw
[02:19] <Stonekeeper> hmm.. I'll copy the iso, mount it and copy locally i think...
[02:22] <Stonekeeper> i wont be sorry to see the back of this compaq rubbish
[03:19] <Stonekeeper> w00000t! xubuntu installing of harddisk! :)
[03:20] <Stonekeeper> lol - everytime i see sucess, i see failure :( it fails to mount the "cdrom" :(
[04:15] <vidd_laptop> Stonekeeper, you have xubuntu installed on you hard drive and now it dont see your cdrom?
[04:16] <vidd_laptop> or are you installing from the live cd and getting this error?
[04:29] <Stonekeeper> vidd_laptop: hi
[04:29] <vidd_laptop> hello
[04:29] <Stonekeeper> I'm doing this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=316093
[04:30] <Stonekeeper> the worrying thing is that I'm seeing "block_devices: not fount error in syslog
[04:35] <vidd_laptop> did the install go ok?
[04:35] <Stonekeeper> nope
[04:35] <Stonekeeper> i can get it to boot but it just wont find the iso file
[04:36] <vidd_laptop> where did you put the iso?
[04:36] <Stonekeeper>  /dev/hda3
[04:37] <Stonekeeper> I've dropped into a shell from the installer and mount doesn't seem to be working :(
[04:37] <vidd_laptop> look at step 7
[04:37] <vidd_laptop> it is supposed to fail the first time
[04:37] <Stonekeeper> yes, but it fails after i create the loop device
[04:38] <vidd_laptop> so you went to terminal 2, ran the command, and switch to terminal 1....
[04:38] <Stonekeeper> yup
[04:38] <vidd_laptop> do you see the menu?
[04:38] <Stonekeeper> yes
[04:39] <vidd_laptop> and you choose "install xubuntu"
[04:39] <Stonekeeper> yup
[04:39] <Stonekeeper> i think it's a far deeper error
[04:40] <Stonekeeper> i've checked the script that scans for the iso and it tries to mount each device in turn. I've used exactly the same line to mount the devices and i get a mount error: Invalid Argument...
[04:41] <vidd_laptop> did you move the iso to the same place as in step 5?
[04:41] <Stonekeeper> yes
[04:41] <vidd_laptop> go to term 2
[04:41] <vidd_laptop> and do a ls -a
[04:42] <vidd_laptop> is the iso there?
[04:42] <Stonekeeper> nope
[04:42] <Stonekeeper> term 2 is in ram
[04:43] <vidd_laptop> is vmlinuz & initrd.gz files there?
[04:43] <Stonekeeper> well, aren't i *in* those files? aren';t they ramdisks?
[04:44] <vidd_laptop> there should still be files on your hard drive
[04:44] <Stonekeeper> where would they be?
[04:45] <vidd_laptop> im not sure....
[04:45] <vidd_laptop> im not too familiar with looking at partitions this early in the install process
[04:46] <Stonekeeper> i'm absolutely stumped when a mount command wont work
[04:46] <Stonekeeper> no wonder it cant find it!
[04:46] <vidd_laptop> me2
[04:47] <Stonekeeper> out of interest, where should logger output go to? syslog? I'm not seeing much there
[04:47] <vidd_laptop> dmesg or something similar (i think)
[04:49] <Stonekeeper> oh crap. you think the ext3 driver would read ext2 partitions?
[04:52] <vidd_laptop> no idea...i would imagine it would
[04:59] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Of course it would, it's the same format.  ext3 uses journalling on top of ext2.
[05:05] <Stonekeeper> that's what i thought. Problem sorted though. The iso had to be in a specific directory. That's what happens when you spend an entire weekend on a problem and dont do anything else o.O
[05:10] <vidd_laptop> Stonekeeper, so you good now?
[05:10] <Stonekeeper> pretty much
[05:12] <vidd_laptop> *thumbs up*
[05:13] <Stonekeeper> :)
[05:13] <mirflap> afternoon
[05:16] <mirflap> flash player 9 beta only has a .so file and a readme...? how can this possibly play flash ?
[05:16] <Stonekeeper> firefox uses the .so
[05:17] <mirflap> sure but it's just a link
[05:17] <vidd_laptop> hello mirflap
[05:17] <mirflap> there is no actual flash player
[05:17] <mirflap> hi vidd_laptop
[05:17] <Stonekeeper> copy to the plugins directory and restart firefox. Check by typing "about:plugins" in firefox
[05:17] <vidd_laptop> Stonekeeper, add your step (specify the directory you had to put it in) to the trheed so others will not have the same issue as you
[05:17] <Stonekeeper> not standalone
[05:18] <Stonekeeper> vidd_laptop: to my shame, it was already specified. The mistake was mine. too little sleep :P
[05:18] <vidd_laptop> lol
[05:18] <Stonekeeper> no lol :P
[05:18] <vidd_laptop> ah...you did not put it in the /boot directory?
[05:21] <mirflap> flash 9 beta does not work
[05:22] <mirflap> do I need the standalone version as well
[05:23] <Stonekeeper> it works for me
[05:24] <Stonekeeper> i installed it with automtix.
[05:24] <Stonekeeper> automatix
[05:24] <Stonekeeper> bbiab
[05:32] <Prestwick> Hello, where can I find the ATI drivers for xubuntu and how do I install it?
[05:34] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !ati
[05:34] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:34] <Prestwick> yay thanks ^^
[05:34] <PuMpErNiCkLe> np
[05:59] <esc_on_lucidrine> hi all
[06:34] <Prestwick> haha, okay, well, I made the mistake of installing fglrx on my laptop which only has an ATI Rage Mobility on board ^^;
[06:34] <Prestwick> And now xorg won't start on startup, how do I remove fglrx?
[06:36] <Prestwick> Any ideas?
[06:41] <Prestwick> False alarm chaps, I just did the reconfigure command in the xorg.conf file.
[06:41] <Prestwick> Its working again.
[06:44] <Prestwick> Ah
[06:44] <Prestwick> now i have a new problem.
[06:44] <Prestwick> In the top left hand corner of the screen there is a small square of corruption that won't go away.
[06:54] <Stonekeepe2> It's installed! :)
[06:54] <Prestwick> hurrah
[06:55] <Prestwick> I think it might be something to do with xorg :(
[06:55] <Prestwick> When I reconfigured it, I chose the ATI driver (not the fglrx driver)
[06:55] <Stonekeepe2> anyone know how to add an iso as a repository? I mounted on loopback and added deb file://<path to root of cd> edgy main restricted, but an apt-get update moans with Unable to find expected entry restricted/binary-i386/Packages. Any ideas?
[07:05] <Pitbull_R> Hi all
[07:05] <Pitbull_R> Mind if I pick your brains with lame noob questions for a sec?
[07:06] <Pitbull_R> Hummm...I'm guessing I should take that as a "yes" ;)
[07:07] <pleia2> you can just ask your question, no need to ask if you can ask :)
[07:07] <Pitbull_R> Q: I am trying to setup a really simple linux file server (samba server) on a very old amd k6 400mhz pc with 256mb ram.
[07:07] <Pitbull_R> The ram is ok but hardware is kinda old and slow
[07:08] <Pitbull_R> I heard maybe xubuntu would be best bet.
[07:08] <Pitbull_R> Agree or disagree?
[07:10] <vidd_laptop> yes...xubuntu is the best choice (INHO)
[07:10] <Pitbull_R> thanks
[07:10] <Pitbull_R> U think it'll be easy to get samba to work on it'
[07:10] <Pitbull_R> I'm one hell of a noob
[07:12] <Pitbull_R> hehehe... guess everyone is partying over in another chan :)
[07:12] <Pitbull_R> hummm
[07:12] <pleia2> Pitbull_R: yes, it should be pretty easy
[07:12] <Pitbull_R> guess it's not going to be as simple as I thiught
[07:13] <Pitbull_R> pleia2: any good reading for it u recommend?
[07:13] <pleia2> Pitbull_R: it depends, are you setting it up for just linux machines to access? or linux and windows? or linux and mac and windows?
[07:13] <magic_ninja> whats up
[07:14] <Pitbull_R> wincrap machines too
[07:14] <Pitbull_R> :(
[07:14] <Pitbull_R> Wish not...
[07:14] <vidd_laptop> http://samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/
[07:14] <vidd_laptop> *wave* magic_ninja
[07:15] <Pitbull_R> mind if I stick around in chan and shout out for help if i get stuck?
[07:16] <Pitbull_R> I'll take that as a "yes", too :)
[07:16] <Pitbull_R> vidd_laptop: you into laptops or is that just the nick talking?!
[07:16] <Pitbull_R> cuz I actually want some tips on what laptop to be on the lookout for
[07:16] <Pitbull_R> wanna buy one soon
[07:17] <vidd_laptop> i have a desktopmachine and a laptop machine
[07:17] <Pitbull_R> atm have 4 destops
[07:17] <vidd_laptop> i use the two nicks to let ppl know which one im on
[07:17] <Pitbull_R> ahhhh
[07:17] <Pitbull_R> ok
[07:17] <Pitbull_R> sorry :)
[07:17] <vidd_laptop> np
[07:18] <Pitbull_R> just booted up live cd... starting install now...
[07:18] <vidd_laptop> you can actually order a laptop pre-installed with linux....
[07:18] <Pitbull_R> this is gonna take a while
[07:18] <Pitbull_R> vidd
[07:18] <Pitbull_R> yeah
[07:18] <Pitbull_R> I wanna get one but haven't gotten my mind set to which one.
[07:19] <Pitbull_R> I wanna game and do multimedia stuff on it
[07:19] <Pitbull_R> like mce or myth
[07:19] <magic_ninja> Pitbull_R: are you installing on an old machine, if so the live cd will be kinda (really) slow
[07:20] <Pitbull_R> yeah
[07:20] <magic_ninja> Pitbull_R: I have written a small howto and getting it to run alot better
[07:20] <Pitbull_R> is old amd 400
[07:20] <magic_ninja> ok
[07:20] <vidd_laptop> Pitbull_R, you want this on a laptop or desktop?
[07:20] <grazie> Pitbull_R: to get the most of that old desktop as a server, you'd be best to install ubuntu without the gui
[07:21] <Pitbull_R> where?
[07:21] <snook353> is it ok to delete the .gconf hidden file in my home folder?
[07:21] <snook353> now that i don't use gnome?
[07:21] <grazie> Pitbull_R: if you're happy installing, configuring, etc at cli?
[07:22] <Pitbull_R> yeah... am... but 6.10 server keeps rebooting after install
[07:22] <Pitbull_R> I'd love that howto magic_ninja
[07:23] <Pitbull_R> grazie: else i'd be all over 6.10 server
[07:23] <magic_ninja> mabye proc overheat?
[07:23] <Pitbull_R> nope
[07:23] <magic_ninja> or a powersupply issue
[07:23] <Pitbull_R> runs good with all others
[07:23] <magic_ninja> i was going to say
[07:23] <Pitbull_R> it's just with ubuntu 6.20 server
[07:23] <Pitbull_R> suse is ok
[07:23] <Pitbull_R> fedora
[07:23] <Pitbull_R> ubuntu 6.4
[07:24] <Pitbull_R> knoppix
[07:24] <Pitbull_R> etc...
[07:24] <Pitbull_R> magic_ninja: uhmmmm... about that howto???
[07:25] <magic_ninja> gimme a sec
[07:25] <magic_ninja> i was talking to gf
[07:25] <Pitbull_R> ok
[07:25] <Pitbull_R> sure
[07:26] <Pitbull_R> grazie: any ideas?
[07:26] <magic_ninja> http://www.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=313406&highlight=magic_ninja
[07:27] <grazie> Pitbull_R: sorry, ideas for what?
[07:27] <Pitbull_R> ideas why it reboots.
[07:29] <grazie> Pitbull_R: no. but don't think switching to xubuntu will solve your problem. there's a lot of overlap.
[07:30] <Pitbull_R> ok
[07:30] <Pitbull_R> thanks
[07:30] <Pitbull_R> will keep in mind
[07:34] <magic_ninja> Pitbull_R: is that howto helping ya at all?
[07:34] <magic_ninja> you will have to reload the install to make it boot quicker if you want but if its already in live cd that ought to help you out
[07:35] <Pitbull_R> it's helping plenty :)
[07:36] <Pitbull_R> Anyont hink that a 2gb hdd is overkill for swap?
[07:36] <esc_on_lucidrine> does anyone know how i can get foo to jive properly with bar in xubuntu?
[07:37] <esc_on_lucidrine> Pitbull_R, depends on your memory, and if you wanna use hibernation.
[07:38] <Pitbull_R> 256 mem and what the hell is hibernation?
[07:40] <grazie> Pitbull_R: for 256 it's overKill. I'd use 512 tops.
[07:43] <magic_ninja> doesn't cedega make a registry file for separate games?
[07:48] <vidd_laptop> Pitbull_R, i think it is overkill....but that is just me
[07:48] <Pitbull_R> mag
[07:48] <Pitbull_R> lol
[07:48] <Pitbull_R> yeah
[07:49] <Pitbull_R> wel... I have the spare hdd lying around and thought I nmight as well use it
[07:49] <Pitbull_R> magic_ninja: what is cedega?
[07:49] <magic_ninja> its a windows software wrapper for linux
[07:50] <magic_ninja> it uses wine
[07:50] <grazie> !cedega
[07:50] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[07:50] <magic_ninja> it enables you to run alot of games on windows, wine is better for apps
[07:50] <Pitbull_R> so in simple terms.. if i migrate my system to linux i would be able to run and install my wincrap apps and games?
[07:51] <Prestwick> I've got a question.
[07:51] <Prestwick> Why does Xubuntu rock so hard?
[07:51] <Pitbull_R> Prestwick: cuz it's "da bom" dude ;)
[07:52] <Prestwick> :D
[07:52] <vidd_laptop> Prestwick, what do you mean by "rock so hard"?
[07:52] <magic_ninja> Pitbull_R: its far from perfect
[07:53] <magic_ninja> Pitbull_R: you almost always have to tweak with cedega, and performance is reduced as well
[07:53] <vidd_laptop> is cedega free?
[07:53] <Pitbull_R> Oh well... another time maybe :)
[07:53] <Prestwick> Because it is having to emulate the environment?
[07:54] <Prestwick> Like say Rosetta does for PowerPC to x86 for OSX?
[07:54] <Pitbull_R> Prestwick: I'd guess thats it.
[07:54] <vidd_laptop> Pitbull_R, why give up on migration?
[07:54] <Pitbull_R> But with a hight power system it should be fine.
[07:54] <Pitbull_R> vidd_laptop: cuz i totally suk at *nix stuff
[07:55] <Pitbull_R> and cuz i'm the worlds most total noob!
[07:55] <grazie> vidd_laptop: cedega is not free. wine is free.
[07:55] <vidd_laptop> Pitbull_R, SO DID I A SHORT TIME AGO....AND IM still LEARNING
[07:55] <Prestwick> hahaha you'll have to learn sometime
[07:55] <vidd_laptop> damn cap locks
[07:55] <Pitbull_R> the only way I can see me learning this stuff is with a sledge hammer and chisel
[07:56] <Pitbull_R> open my head with hammer
[07:56] <vidd_laptop> grazie, so it is another pay program like crossover office?
[07:56] <Pitbull_R> chisle the info into brain :)
[07:56] <vidd_laptop> Pitbull_R, it comes with time....
[07:56] <grazie> vidd_laptop: yes
[07:56] <vidd_laptop> it took you some time to learn windows Pitbull_R
[07:57] <Prestwick> How do I view windows network shares in Xubuntu?
[07:57] <Pitbull_R> vidd_laptop: well, truth be told, I am getting pretty good at typing apt-get install samba
[07:57] <Pitbull_R> :)
[07:57] <vidd_laptop> Pitbull_R, lol
[07:57] <Pitbull_R> Prestwick: I pitty u dude!
[07:58] <mats> 1system -> shared folders?
[07:58] <Prestwick> haha huh?
[07:58] <Pitbull_R> I've been trying to get down that raod for weeks now... and always keep hitting my pretty head against the wall!
[07:58] <Prestwick> I thought that was the way to create shared folders on your Linux machine Mats
[07:58] <Pitbull_R> See... thats where the sledge hammer comes in
[07:58] <Prestwick> I want to view shared folders on my Windows machine across the network
[07:58] <Prestwick> lol
[07:59] <Pitbull_R> Prestwick: from windows to nix is easy
[07:59] <vidd_laptop> here is a nice tutorial:
[07:59] <vidd_laptop> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304131&highlight=xubuntu
[07:59] <Pitbull_R> Thats the one
[07:59] <Pitbull_R> nice one vidd_laptop!
[08:00] <Pitbull_R> Bravo! Encore!
[08:00] <Pitbull_R> Bravo!
[08:00] <Prestwick> Cheers pal
[08:00] <vidd_laptop> dont throw money...throw willing ladies!
[08:01] <Prestwick> hhahaha
[08:01] <Pitbull_R> lol
[08:02] <vidd_laptop> although donations to my college fund would be appreciated too!
[08:02] <Pitbull_R> lol x2
[08:02] <Pitbull_R> college... u guys crack me up :)
[08:03] <vidd_laptop> if you donate on 200$us, that will bring it to a total of....
[08:03] <vidd_laptop> 200$us!
[08:03] <Pitbull_R> lolllll
[08:03] <Pitbull_R> ohhh... such sweet comedy :)
[08:04] <vidd_laptop> but only 10 more years of that
[08:04] <vidd_laptop> =] 
[08:04] <Pitbull_R> lol
[08:04] <Pitbull_R> u in deep trouble man :)
[08:04] <Pitbull_R> Why dont u sell laptop annd pc?
[08:05] <Pitbull_R> that ought to get u started
[08:05] <Pitbull_R> hehe
[08:05] <vidd_laptop> cuzz then i would be forced to commit sepiku
[08:05] <Pitbull_R> lol
[08:06] <Pitbull_R> suicide is not the answer man.
[08:06] <Pitbull_R> Bungee without a cord is.
[08:06] <pleia2> might want to move this conversation to -offtopic
[08:06] <Stonekeepe2> vidd_laptop: xubuntu all installed nicely and d/l stuff via automatix and wireless card ;)
[08:06] <vidd_laptop> awesome
[08:07] <vidd_laptop>  Stonekeepe2 no issue with wireless card?
[08:09] <Prestwick> Mine is all installed on a Compaq Armada M700, ndiswrapper installed without a hitch :D
[08:09] <Prestwick> how do I change permissions on a folder?
[08:09] <vidd_laptop> Prestwick, i prefer to not use ndiswraper if i can get away with it
[08:10] <vidd_laptop> chmod [group] +[permissions] 
[08:10] <Prestwick> Thanks
[08:10] <Prestwick> its the only way I can get my card to work :(
[08:12] <vidd_laptop> usb, pci, or pcmcia?
[08:12] <Prestwick> pcmcia
[08:12] <vidd_laptop> what does lspcmcia show for the card?
[08:13] <Prestwick> tells me to go to lspci then...
[08:14] <Prestwick> 3Com Corp 3Com 3CRWE154G72 [Office Connect Wireless LAN Adapter] 
[08:14] <Stonekeepe2> vidd_laptop: nope - well one, the restricted modules not installed by default, even though they are in the installer
[08:15] <Pitbull_R> Q: If I game on windows, check mail on windows, and do basically everything on windows, have a low ass amd xp 2600+ with 1 gb ram, why on earth would I wanna jump to linux where I can't play my games or run my apps?
[08:15] <Stonekeepe2> Prestwick, just done a Compaq Armada 7800 with knackered cdrom drive
[08:15] <Stonekeepe2> i *HATE* compaq!!!
[08:15] <Prestwick> haha yeah, it was the only laptop I've got though
[08:15] <Pitbull_R> Stonekeepe2: used to be compaq repair tech
[08:15] <Pitbull_R> hated them, too!
[08:15] <Stonekeepe2> bwahaha! :)
[08:16] <Stonekeepe2> what's that? no BIOS?!?!!
[08:16] <Pitbull_R> lol
[08:16] <Prestwick> Argh!!! It keeps saying "invalid mode" whenever I try to use chmod!
[08:16] <Pitbull_R> you noticed, have you?! ;)
[08:16] <vidd_laptop> Pitbull_R, A: cuzz windows is a greedy company bent on world domination and is the new Evil Empire that needs to be crushed and put in its place
[08:16] <Pitbull_R> vidd_laptop: lol... so far loving reason A.
[08:17] <vidd_laptop> a=answer
[08:17] <Pitbull_R> lol
[08:17] <Pitbull_R> Hum... hardly seems like enough. Granted MS is evil, but have they actually ever "harmed" anyone?
[08:17] <vidd_laptop> Prestwick, who ownes the file you are trying to change?
[08:18] <Stonekeepe2> yeah, harmed me
[08:18] <Pitbull_R> http://www.bbspot.com/News/2000/4/MS_Buys_Evil.html
[08:18] <vidd_laptop> Pitbull_R, the list of companies is too numerous to list
[08:18] <Pitbull_R> lol
[08:18] <Pitbull_R> Stonekeepe2: elaborate, plz!
[08:18] <Stonekeepe2> Pitbull_R: how do you change the clock in bios when you dont have one?
[08:18] <vidd_laptop> Pitbull_R, not to mention the 10's of 1000's of ppl they prosecuted and sent to jail
[08:19] <Prestwick> ah I fixed it now ^^;
[08:19] <Prestwick> I just had everything round the wrong way
[08:20] <Stonekeepe2> Prestwick: did you get the dodgy keys working?
[08:20] <Stonekeepe2> i can't find a way of making the volume up/down keys actually make the volume go up down :)
[08:20] <Pitbull_R> Results 1 - 10 of about 31,700,000 for microsoft evil. (0.03 seconds)
[08:21] <Pitbull_R> Stonekeepe2: model?
[08:22] <vidd_laptop> Stonekeepe2, you simply need to add the volume applet on one of your taskbars
[08:22] <Pitbull_R> Stonekeepe2: ahhh, armada 7800
[08:23] <Pitbull_R> Tried pressing F10 during boot?
[08:24] <Pitbull_R> or was it F11
[08:24] <Pitbull_R> Not 100% sure
[08:24] <Pitbull_R> was eiher one or the other
[08:25] <vidd_laptop> press and hold any key and throw a keyboard error....
[08:25] <vidd_laptop> that will always bring up the command for entering the bios
[08:26] <Pitbull_R> I am pretty sure that only works for versions 10.39 and up
[08:27] <Pitbull_R> well... time for dinner. Pc just finished installing
[08:27] <Pitbull_R> will tinker after dinner.
[08:27] <Pitbull_R> cyas all
[08:28] <Stonekeepe2> no there is no bios!
[08:28] <Stonekeepe2> Prestwick: did you manage to get them sound keys working?
[08:28] <Pitbull_R> Stonekeepe2: not a bios per say, it's a app that is installed on all compaqs
[08:32] <Stonekeepe2> yeah, the HD was nuked
[08:32] <Stonekeepe2> i'm impressed that when i press Fn-F5 a sound thing comes up. Is that an xfce thing or compaq?
[08:34] <vidd_laptop> fn keys are usually an mother-board feature, and not OS
[08:37] <Stonekeepe2> yeah, looks like it ;)
[08:38] <vidd_laptop> Stonekeepe2, you saying you have no bios?
[08:38] <Stonekeepe2> yeah
[08:38] <vidd_laptop> your computer cannot boot AT ALL without a bios of some kind
[08:38] <vidd_laptop> even if it is a POST
[08:38] <Stonekeepe2> apparently, compaq took anything resembling an interface to the bios and made it software
[08:39] <Stonekeepe2> oh yes, there is a biod (of course) but no interface to it
[08:39] <vidd_laptop> not so....what is your pc?
[08:39] <Stonekeepe2> compaq armada 7800
[08:47] <esc_on_lucidrine> Pitbull_R, hibernation is "suspend to disk"
[08:47] <esc_on_lucidrine> basically copy your entire RAM to disk, and then you can reboot into that state
[08:48] <esc_on_lucidrine> obviously needs to be as big as your memory, and probabyl bigger, maybe like 2x
[08:49] <Stonekeeper> meh, my X crashed
[08:49] <esc_on_lucidrine> Stonekeeper, you can look at the log in /var/logs/Xorg.0.log
[08:50] <esc_on_lucidrine> or Xorg.0.log.old for older logs
[08:50] <Stonekeeper> i dont actually think it was X itself
[08:51] <Stonekeeper> it was like something was timing out
[08:51] <esc_on_lucidrine> you can do "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE" to find error messages
[08:52] <esc_on_lucidrine> i'd check there first :-) b4 hypothesizing something else
[08:55] <Maximilian1st> Hi all
[08:57] <hyper_ch> !wish
[08:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:58] <hyper_ch> anyone knows what wish is?
[08:58] <esc_on_lucidrine> is wish not a Tcl/Tk interpreter?
[08:59] <Maximilian1st> http://wish.sourceforge.net/
[08:59] <Maximilian1st> http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man1/wish.1.html
[08:59] <Maximilian1st> make your choice
[08:59] <Maximilian1st> probably the first one
[08:59] <hyper_ch> well, right now I have a problem firing up ff because wish uses all cpu
[09:00] <hyper_ch> can I kill it?
[09:00] <Maximilian1st> close all important data and give it a try
[09:01] <hyper_ch> Maximilian1st: killing it worked fine
[09:01] <maxamillion> whois Maximilian1st
[09:01] <Maximilian1st> Fine. I have a question, who uses Xfmedia to play MP3s
[09:02] <Maximilian1st> maxamillion, It's me, hi :-p
[09:02] <maxamillion> ah ... rgr, hello
[09:02] <maxamillion> Maximilian1st: welcome to the chan :)
[09:02] <Maximilian1st> Thank you
[09:03] <vidd_laptop> =] 
[09:03] <Maximilian1st> I am a Xubuntu user and my xfmedia does not play mp3s at all so I was wondering if it is a general problem or just my partial upgrade to feisty
[09:04] <maxamillion> Maximilian1st: general problem ... but it might have been worsened by the feisty upgrade
[09:04] <Maximilian1st> vidd_laptop, to be precise I just want to know if xfmedia works in xubuntu.
[09:04] <vidd_laptop> Maximilian1st, why not try to convert them to free format, and try again
[09:04] <vidd_laptop> works for me....
[09:04] <maxamillion> Maximilian1st: xfmedia was removed and replaced by gxine for edgy because we had so many problems with it in dapper
[09:05] <Maximilian1st> It is strange because it used to work for me using gentoo. I just switched to try xubuntu this year.
[09:05] <esc_on_lucidrine> what made you switch?
[09:05] <Maximilian1st> Is it due to the xine version maybe?
[09:06] <Maximilian1st> I use a laptop and compiling is not really appropriate for it
[09:06] <esc_on_lucidrine> fair enough :-)
[09:07] <Maximilian1st> Gentoo is very powerfull and has very good documentation
[09:07] <esc_on_lucidrine> oh yes
[09:08] <esc_on_lucidrine> still on my list of distros to take for a spin
[09:08] <Maximilian1st> So if I get it right, Xfmedia is not usable in xubuntu
[09:08] <esc_on_lucidrine> i might go using it for my gateway, but probably use OpenBSD
[09:08] <Maximilian1st> Used it during four years
[09:09] <Maximilian1st> It's the hell of a learning curve but it helped me understand a lot of how linux works
[09:09] <maxamillion> i would run gentoo if i had the patience for source distros ... but i've been on debian for so long using binary packages its made me lazy
[09:09] <maxamillion> Maximilian1st: slackware will teach those concepts as well ;) ...
[09:11] <ewook> wine throws me libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x46
[09:11] <ewook>  all over when trying to fire up a install (starcraft). Is is just that I've got crappy drivers for my gfx?
[09:13] <Maximilian1st> ewook, Hello
[09:13] <ewook> yo :)
[09:13] <Maximilian1st> ewook, Good. These warnings are safe, mine is 0x5b
[09:14] <ewook> Maximilian1st, you've got a errorlist hidden somewhere?
[09:14] <ewook> walking in the dark here =/
[09:14] <Maximilian1st> It just warns you that you won't have all the possible options
[09:14] <Maximilian1st> But does the install crash?
[09:14] <ewook> ya
[09:14] <ewook> it fails the second after due to a 'unknown' reg-entry
[09:15] <ewook> Error in script file SetupDat\GenDefs.ins, line 20: unrecognized registry type
[09:15] <Maximilian1st> then you better head over to the wine irc channel or web forum. You could also give codeweavers.com a try
[09:16] <ewook> gotcha. thanks :)
[09:16] <Maximilian1st> Sorry, but this is absolutely unrelated to xubuntu I think, could be wrong...
[09:16] <ewook> I hoped that it had something to do with the gfx-things loaded with x.
[09:17] <ewook> but I'll check 'em out and see whats up :) thanks man
[09:17] <Maximilian1st> look codeweavers
[09:17] <Maximilian1st> I tried and it really works out of the box
[09:18] <Maximilian1st> Yes, I know, you have to pay for it... But hey, this is less headache to install windows applications you really need
[09:19] <ewook> do I dare to ask the price?
[09:19] <Maximilian1st> It is on the web site, something like 30-40$...
[09:19] <Prestwick> how do I change the keyboard language?
[09:20] <ewook> oh, they have a trial for 60 days.
[09:23] <Maximilian1st> Prestwick, Hello.
[09:24] <Maximilian1st> Prestwick, You could try looking in the documentation...
[09:25] <Maximilian1st> Prestwick, OK, https://help.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html
[09:26] <Stonekeeper> lol, I was just paying youtube vids on this laptop 266/128M ram
[09:26] <Stonekeeper> jerky but sound was perfect
[09:26] <maxamillion> Maximilian1st: thank you for educating users about the documentation
[09:27] <Maximilian1st> maxamillion, Nothing to thank
[09:27] <maxamillion> :)
[09:27] <Stonekeeper> anyone suggest a networking applet for xubuntu? Just the plain old "Network Manager" one?
[09:30] <hyper_ch> so, back again :)
[09:30] <Prestwick> Max: thats a crazy idea
[09:30] <Prestwick> Max: theres no room here for "logic" or "common sense", get out!
[09:31] <Maximilian1st> This is for you maxamillion
[09:33] <Taram> hi TheSheep
[09:33] <maxamillion> Maximilian1st: yeah ... rgr
[09:34] <maxamillion> Prestwick: uhmmm... we aren't microsoft, we enjoy logic and common sense around here ;)
[09:34] <Maximilian1st> maxamillion, I was joking, no idea who he pointed out, probably me. Bad Max
[09:35] <maxamillion> probably to both of us, you referenced the documentation and i endorsed your referencing it
[09:35] <Prestwick> lol
[09:36] <Maximilian1st> Prestwick, You are such a joker...
[09:36] <Stonekeeper> according to my ps aux, nm-applet is running, but I can't see it. Any ideas?
[09:36] <Pitbull_R> I finally got samba working :)
[09:37] <Pitbull_R> But i do have 1 question: how can i setup a working sahre for each user that logs in to the server?
[09:37] <magic_ninja> hello. for some reason my cdrom only reads cds that I have burned, it won't read game cds, audio cds or anything other than burned cds.  Do you guys have any ideas I believe there is a problem somewhere within my OS's hardware configuration
[09:37] <Maximilian1st> Stonekeeper, applet... Do you have the http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-xfapplet-plugin installed on your panel?
[09:37] <hyper_ch> magic_ninja: did they run on windows?
[09:38] <magic_ninja> yea
[09:38] <magic_ninja> can i boot into a live cd and do it with only one cdrom drive
[09:38] <Maximilian1st> hyper_ch, where in switzerland are you from, Nyon here...
[09:38] <hyper_ch> St. Gall
[09:40] <Prestwick> I try my best :D
[09:42] <Stonekeeper> Maximilian1st: ooh.. is that installed by default?
[09:42] <Stonekeeper> is there a better one for xfce?
[09:42] <Maximilian1st> Stonekeeper, Can't find it here, you'll have to add it
[09:43] <Maximilian1st> Stonekeeper, better what?
[09:43] <Stonekeeper> wifi applet
[09:43] <Maximilian1st> I use wifi-radar, it's ok...
[09:43] <Stonekeeper> is that gnome too?
[09:43] <Maximilian1st> nope
[09:44] <Prestwick> I've got a problem with Fusesmb
[09:44] <Stonekeeper> so less resources?
[09:44] <Prestwick> basically it comes up with the error "failed to access mountpoint /media/network: Permission denied"
[09:44] <Prestwick> yet I chmodded the directory to 777
[09:45] <Prestwick> Any ideas?
[09:47] <Maximilian1st> Haven't tried that one out yet. I use pyNeighborhood for browsing networks.
[09:48] <Prestwick> Oh cool, can I nab that in synaptic?
[09:49] <Maximilian1st> nab?
[09:49] <Prestwick> get
[09:49] <Maximilian1st> Sorry Prestwick I'm Swiss not english...
[09:49] <Maximilian1st> ok
[09:49] <Maximilian1st> uh?...
[09:49] <Prestwick> Good! Last free country in Europe I see! :D
[09:49] <Prestwick> I like that :)
[09:51] <Prestwick> Yes, so, where can I get pyNeighborhood?
[09:51] <Maximilian1st> :-), It's not in the ubuntu trees but you can download it from it's website and you will need python and smbfs to be installed
[09:51] <maxamillion> Prestwick: don't bother ... it doesn't work
[09:51] <Maximilian1st> It does work for me at least
[09:51] <maxamillion> Prestwick: use linneighborhood
[09:51] <maxamillion> Maximilian1st: really? ... myself and 3 other users downloaded the package from the repository and the source ... couldn't get either to work
[09:52] <Maximilian1st> http://pyneighborhood.sourceforge.net/
[09:52] <maxamillion> Maximilian1st: i just figured it was because the developer wasn't done porting the application
[09:58] <Prestwick> Right, I've installed it
[09:58] <Prestwick> linneighborhood
[09:58] <Prestwick> how do I use it?
[09:59] <maxamillion> Prestwick: http://www.bnro.de/%7Eschmidjo/index.html
[10:01] <maxamillion> i gotta run ... bbl
[10:02] <Prestwick> ah cool, got it working
[10:17] <Stonekeeper> hello again :) anyone know how to make the password keyring thing save the master password? I really dont care about the security aspect of it!!
[10:20] <Prestwick> Right I'm getting a silly error trying to install pyneighborhood.
[10:21] <Prestwick> When I go through the make install stage of the process, it says it can't stat *.png because its not there.
[10:22] <Stonekeeper> heh - cool
[10:28] <Maximilian1st> Prestwick, could you post more of the error message?
[10:28] <Prestwick> ah I solved it
[10:28] <Prestwick> none of the png files were in pyneighborhood/share/pyneighborhood/icons
[10:29] <Carna> hi everyone
[10:29] <Prestwick> he
[10:29] <Prestwick> y
[10:30] <Maximilian1st> hi
[10:30] <Prestwick> we're looking good Max
[10:30] <Prestwick> its working
[10:30] <Maximilian1st> Nice
[10:30] <Carna> mmm i've now by now installed xubuntu 6.06 and i wish to run fluxobx ... how to?
[10:31] <Prestwick> eh? no wait, its now trying to connect to "82.101.8.46:445"
[10:31] <Maximilian1st> Prestwick, Do you have a network at hand to test the app with?
[10:31] <Carna> just downloaded from synaptic
[10:31] <Prestwick> yeah, I'm using the network I'm on at the momment.
[10:31] <Maximilian1st> use gsynaptic to install it maybe?
[10:32] <Prestwick> The laptop's address is 192.168.1.4 and the pc I want to scan is 192.168.1.3
[10:32] <Carna> is there smone using fluxbox?
[10:32] <Maximilian1st> there are some options that you can adjust...
[10:33] <Maximilian1st> Carna, in the gdm session chooser there should be an option to change window manager, go and check. Log out and look for the options you are given.
[10:34] <Carna> the gdm session chooser is SESSIONS on the settings men?
[10:34] <Prestwick> It says "failed to scan by IP, trying by Name"
[10:34] <Prestwick> and then tries to ping a name server.
[10:38] <Maximilian1st> Carna, You have to log out of your session, read the doc if you don't know how to do that. Once you are logged out, you are in gdm and from there you can choose another WM, normally...
[10:39] <Prestwick> okay
[10:41] <Maximilian1st> Prestwick, you are done with it or it works?
[10:42] <Prestwick> I dodged that one, now I can't mount
[10:42] <Prestwick> It dosen't give a reason, SMB and CIFS both say "failed to mount"
[10:43] <Stonekeeper> I almost got xubuntu working majorly kick-arsely
[10:44] <Maximilian1st> Prestwick, Try fiddling with the options... The project is alive so there will be an update soon, I contacted the dev a week ago.
[10:44] <Prestwick> okay then
[10:44] <Prestwick> is there a support forum or something on the site?
[10:44] <somerville32> !forums | prestwick
[10:44] <ubotu> prestwick: The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[10:45] <Maximilian1st> nope, write to him if you really can't figure out how to make it work, there is also a doc on the site... not sure
[10:45] <somerville32> Oh sorry
[10:46] <somerville32> You're trying to get pyneighborhood to install
[10:46] <somerville32> I've never managed to get it to actually work
[10:46] <somerville32> Has anyone else?
[10:46] <Maximilian1st> Prestwick, http://grumpymole.blogspot.com/2006/11/xubuntu-browsing-samba-shares-with.html
[10:46] <Maximilian1st> It works for me.
[10:47] <somerville32> Maximilian1st, You've gotten pyneighborhood to work?
[10:48] <Maximilian1st> And the link I posted shows I am not the only one.
[10:49] <Flipit> hi guys.
[10:49] <Flipit> i need some help.
[10:49] <Maximilian1st> hi
[10:49] <Maximilian1st> Tell us flipout
[10:49] <Flipit> im trying to install xubuntu onm my old windows me laptop and i have no clue what to do
[10:50] <Flipit> i burned the cd
[10:50] <Flipit> and its in the drive.
[10:50] <Flipit> but..
[10:50] <Flipit> lol
[10:51] <Maximilian1st> but..
[10:51] <Maximilian1st> lol
[10:51] <Maximilian1st> Ah wait, I take out my magic ball... Hmm...
[10:51] <Flipit> do i have to uninstall windows first
[10:51] <Flipit> lol
[10:51] <Flipit> i have no clue
[10:51] <Maximilian1st> Do you want to keep windows?
[10:52] <Flipit> no
[10:52] <Maximilian1st> Then just tell the xubuntu installer to take over all the disk space
[10:52] <somerville32> Flipit: Does the cd-rom boot?
[10:52] <Flipit> i dont know.
[10:52] <Flipit> i went into my computer and it can see the files.
[10:53] <Flipit> but no installer came up
[10:53] <Maximilian1st> Flipit, Are you joking?
[10:53] <Flipit> X
[10:53] <Flipit> :X
[10:53] <Flipit> no
[10:53] <somerville32> Flipit: You need to reboot your computer :)
[10:53] <Flipit> k
[10:53] <Flipit> llo
[10:53] <Flipit> brb
[10:53] <somerville32> wait
[10:53] <somerville32> lol
[10:53] <Maximilian1st> 8-/
[10:53] <somerville32> Flipit:
[10:53] <somerville32> You need to make sure that your bios is setup to boot from the cd-rom
[10:54] <somerville32> If you go into your bios setup, configure it so the cdrom is the first thing in the boot sequence
[10:54] <Flipit> ok
[10:54] <somerville32> After that (making sure the cd is in the cd-rom drive), it should boot from the cd instead of your hard drive
[10:54] <somerville32> Are you using the live-cd or the alternative-installer cd?
[10:56] <Flipit> im using desktop cd
[10:56] <Flipit> guess its live
[10:56] <Flipit> k well
[10:56] <somerville32> How much ram does your laptop have?
[10:56] <Flipit> 256
[10:56] <Flipit> its fine
[10:57] <somerville32> Perfect.
[10:57] <Flipit> the xubuntu menu is there.
[10:57] <somerville32> Awesome! :)
[10:57] <Flipit> so just hit install :) ?
[10:57] <Flipit> hehe
[10:57] <somerville32> It should bring you to a desktop
[10:57] <somerville32> Has it done that?
[10:57] <Flipit> brb
[10:58] <Flipit> umm
[10:58] <Flipit> i never clicked start
[10:58] <Flipit> but
[10:58] <Flipit> i think it started on its own
[10:58] <somerville32> Yup
[10:58] <Flipit> its really loud :)
[10:58] <Flipit> my drive
[10:59] <Flipit> ok
[10:59] <Flipit> so
[10:59] <Flipit> i think it worked
[10:59] <Flipit> it looks like the screenshot
[10:59] <somerville32> Woot woot! :] 
[11:00] <Flipit> ok
[11:00] <somerville32> Feisty is awesome btw :)
[11:00] <Flipit> so lcick on the install icon?
[11:00] <somerville32> (the next release of Xubuntu)
[11:00] <somerville32> Flipit: Yup.
[11:00] <Flipit> k
[11:00] <somerville32> It'll provide a druid that will guide you through the different steps to install
[11:00] <somerville32> When asked about partitioning, just tell it to whip out your entire hard drive and install Xubuntu
[11:00] <somerville32> Flipit: Since you're using a laptop, I recommend looking at the wiki to see if there are any quirks for your make and model.
[11:01] <Flipit> ok
[11:01] <Flipit> also
[11:01] <Flipit> does the laptop need to have internet access?
[11:01] <Flipit> for this all to work
[11:01] <somerville32> Nope
[11:01] <somerville32> : )
[11:01] <Flipit> k
[11:02] <somerville32> Welcome to the Xubuntu community! :)
[11:04] <somerville32> Hi Soir! :) Welcome to #xubuntu
[11:05] <Soir> Oh, heya there
[11:06] <Flipit> thanks someville
[11:06] <Flipit> somerville*
[11:06] <Flipit> one question
[11:06] <somerville32> Flipit: Sure :) Ask away :)
[11:06] <somerville32> Hi Qew! :)
[11:07] <Qew> hey
[11:07] <Flipit> i have some word documents i might want to keep is there a way to partition the drive it can be mostly xubuntu but still be able to access windows to get those documents or something like that?
[11:08] <Flipit> somerville?
[11:09] <pleia2> Flipit: you can mount windows drives to have access to them in Linux
[11:09] <Stonekeeper> openoffice will allow you to read most word documents from xubuntu
[11:09] <Flipit> ok
[11:09] <Flipit> ill just erase it all
[11:09] <Flipit> thnaks.
[11:10] <Stonekeeper> anyone know how to run an application when a cd is inserted? I do like sound juicer....
[11:14] <Jester45> can you use a gpu as a extra cpu?
[11:15] <PuMpErNiCkLe> No.
[11:15] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Under special circumstances, with the right card, the support of the gpgpu project, and a lot of luck, you can use it as a math coprocessor.
[11:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> It's completely unsuited for typical processing, though.
[11:22] <Jester45> darn
[11:24] <Flipit> hey thanks for all the help guys it works perfectly i gotta head out see you guys later.
[11:31] <somerville32> pleias2, Stonekeeper: He is going to be some sad when he realizes he deleted everything and it didn't keep his Word documents :P
[11:42] <magic_ninja> grrr
[11:42] <magic_ninja> steam is giving me SOOOO much trouble
[11:42] <maxamillion> magic_ninja: yeah .... i tried steam with wine so i could play CS ... but i'm really bad at the game anyways so after about an hour or so i gave up completely
[11:46] <magic_ninja> i went out and bought a copy of HL2 just so i have an online cdkey for cs
[11:46] <magic_ninja> i used to be cal-m
[11:46] <magic_ninja> we had a couple former cal-i too
[11:46] <magic_ninja> used to play with alont of cal-i players
[11:48] <maxamillion> i used to host a web server for cal-i scrims because i had a close friend who was in a clan that was tied for 1st in cal-i ... but then he went to CPL last year and didn't make it into some bracket or something, so he got upset and quit playing and now goes to college
[11:49] <maxamillion> he played CS:S ... i play cs1.6 (but very seldomly and just to kill time so i'm not very good)
[11:52] <yotux> What is the recommended way to setup Wifi in xubuntu
[11:54] <maxamillion> !wifi
[11:54] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:54] <yotux> Thank you
[11:54] <maxamillion> anytime :)
[11:55] <yotux> Sorry to ask in the past i have used gnome and kde
[11:55] <maxamillion> yotux: if there is something on there that doesn't answer your question, post back here and we can try to help ... i think the wiki page is under some construction right now to more completely answer questions so there might be a gap here or there
[11:55] <maxamillion> yotux: oh, no worries ... you just want a gui frontend? wifi-radar
[11:55] <maxamillion> !wifi-radar
[11:55] <ubotu> wifi-radar: graphical utility for managing Wi-Fi profiles. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.7-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 36 kB, installed size 208 kB
[11:56] <maxamillion> yotux: that's the one i like
[11:56] <yotux> I am wanting to learn how to setup iwconfig
[11:56] <maxamillion> ohhhh ok ... lemme get you a link
[11:57] <yotux> i not really new but have fallen into the gui trap.  I am starting to love CLI because it seems faster
[11:57] <maxamillion> yotux: CLI is always faster ;) .... this is a pretty good link ... http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch13_:_Linux_Wireless_Networking
[11:57] <yotux> thanks again
[11:58] <yotux> just installed xubuntu.  setting up ndiswrapper at the moment
[11:59] <yotux> Is there a problem with edgy and icons appearing in xubuntu?
[11:59] <yotux> Desktop sorry
[12:02] <maxamillion> yotux: yeah, the feature was taken out because there was a bug during the development cycle that couldn't be resolved in time for the release date.... the main problem is that xubuntu is technically running a beta of xfce4.4 and we are waiting for the xfce project to release 4.4 stable before we are able to include all the features of xfce without experiencing extremem bugs
[12:02] <maxamillion> omg
[12:02] <maxamillion> and he left ...
[12:07] <Stonekeeper> i just got wifi working with a linksys wpc54g pcmcia card. it wasn't a massive bother
[12:24] <tim_> Stonekeeper, shit performance those cards though, eh? :)
[12:24] <tim_> range, i should say
[12:25] <Stonekeeper> nah, it's ok :)
[12:25] <Stonekeeper> yeah, range
[12:25] <Stonekeeper> i got 61% and i'm <1 metre from router :)
[12:26] <tim_> yeah..  i have to sit in the same room as the router.  bloody useless.