[12:15] <stdin> sleepy495: it has a "Junk" folder for spam, it puts emails it thinks is spam in there, and it "learns" too, so yeah
[12:15] <sleepy495> ok, thanks
[12:15] <stdin> np
[12:20] <Murchadh> ls
[12:27] <MidMark> how can I sync removable device?
[12:27] <MidMark> !sync
[12:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sync - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <k4071k_b0073r> hey anyone here ever play games on pogo.com?
[12:28] <stdin> !rcync
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rcync - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <stdin> !rsync
[12:28] <k4071k_b0073r> cause while under kubuntu i cant seem to load any of the rooms on pogo
[12:28] <ubotu> rsync: fast remote file copy program (like rcp). In component main, is standard. Version 2.6.8-2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 237 kB, installed size 472 kB
[12:28] <stdin> MidMark: maybe that ^
[12:30] <MidMark> stdin: my problem is I want to put sync for all my removable devices until the bug in Edgy is fixed
[12:30] <MidMark> I have to change my fstab?
[12:30] <k4071k_b0073r> could it be something to do with java?
[12:31] <stdin> MidMark: you mean add it to the mount options?
[12:31] <stdin> k4071k_b0073r: I'll try and check
[12:32] <MidMark> stdin: yes, appending it just prevent to cache data?
[12:33] <k4071k_b0073r> thank you i dont know what the deal is man....just seems that i can login to pogo but i cant join any rooms
[12:34] <stdin> MidMark: you have to mount it manually, with pmount sync /dev/sda
[12:35] <MidMark> so I cannot put it in fstab for automatic mount?
[12:36] <stdin> MidMark: no, because removable devices aren't in fstab
[12:37] <stdin> k4071k_b0073r: do you have java installed ?
[12:37] <MidMark> stdin: yes, I have to change an udev rule?
[12:37] <fdoving> MidMark: i belive it's a hal policy.
[12:37] <stdin> MidMark: no, udev has nothing to do with mounting
[12:37] <k4071k_b0073r> hell i dont know
[12:38] <k4071k_b0073r> i just installed kubuntu
[12:38] <MidMark> fdoving: sync can help to prevent data loss for removable device?
[12:38] <k4071k_b0073r> show i install a jave environment to
[12:38] <stdin> k4071k_b0073r: then, you don't
[12:38] <k4071k_b0073r> ok so ill try to install java now
[12:39] <fdoving> MidMark: yes, it will also write the device to death fast. but that's your choice. /etc/hal/fdi/policy/preferences.fdi
[12:39] <fdoving> that's where it is in feisty, atleast.
[12:39] <fdoving> line 51.
[12:40] <fdoving> MidMark: change 'false' to 'true'.. and see if that helps.
[12:40] <MidMark> fdoving: I'm reading... but I haven't understood why it kills removable devices
[12:41] <fdoving> MidMark: there is a comment with a link to a linux-kernel mailinglist post.
[12:42] <MidMark> fdoving: I was reading it before you pointed out me, I try to understand better...
[12:42] <fdoving> MidMark: good, then you'll figure it out from here.. i need to go to bed.
[12:42] <fdoving> nite all.
[12:43] <gnomefreak> nite fdoving
[12:43] <rysiek|pl> #wifi
[12:43] <stdin> night
[12:43] <rysiek|pl> argh, sorry
[12:43] <MidMark> goodnoght
[12:43] <fdoving> nite gnomefreak.
[12:43] <fdoving> and midmark, stdin and all.
[12:43] <rysiek|pl> guys, anybody here uses wpa_supplicant?
[12:43] <MementoMori> hi all
[12:44] <MidMark> rysiek|pl: tried, but there are no good software to configure it
[12:44] <rysiek|pl> MidMark: yeah, I'm fighting with the config file right now
[12:44] <rysiek|pl> MidMark: or do you know any good software that will allow me to use WPA with EAP-TLS authentication?
[12:45] <MementoMori> I just installed kubuntu 6.10 i386 on my laptop and everything went fine. What I should install in order to change cpu speed on the fly?
[12:45] <MidMark> rysiek|pl: I don't... sorry, they are all buggy/incomplete
[12:46] <MementoMori> rysiek|pl: did you already tried knetworkmanager?
[12:46] <MidMark> knetworkmanager sucks
[12:46] <MementoMori> lol
[12:46] <gnomefreak> !wpa
[12:46] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:46] <MidMark> !knetwrokmanager
[12:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knetwrokmanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:46] <MidMark> !knetworkmanager
[12:46] <ubotu> knetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 213 kB, installed size 1448 kB
[12:46] <rysiek|pl> MementoMori: will knetworkmanager allow me to use EAP-TLS?
[12:47] <rysiek|pl> ok, I'll give it a go
[12:47] <MidMark> rysiek|pl: for me knm doesn't detects any ssid don't know why
[12:47] <MidMark> but you can try
[12:47] <MementoMori> rysiek|pl: I dont remenber..... but I found it a nice software
[12:48] <MementoMori> MidMark: maybe your router/ap doesnt broadcast any ssid
[12:48] <MementoMori> !cou speed
[12:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cou speed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:48] <MementoMori> !cpu speed
[12:48] <ubotu> cpu: a console based LDAP user management tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.3-8 (edgy), package size 137 kB, installed size 432 kB
[12:48] <gator> hey is there any other messenger's like gaim and kopete
[12:49] <sonicGB> gator aMSN is a good MSN clone (only does msn tho)
[12:49] <gator> I need like for all of them.
[12:49] <gator> Gaim is ok..but there are some bugs in it.
[12:49] <sonicGB> for that, I think that kopete is the best
[12:49] <MidMark> MementoMori: I don't want to broadcast ssid, but I don't know how to tell to knm that is the right behaviour
[12:49] <gator> kopete is hard on the ram.
[12:50] <sonicGB> ram is cheap :-) hehe
[12:50] <gator> yes..but when ur 15..its nto
[12:50] <gator> not.
[12:50] <cntb> please join kubuntu torrent download http://cargol.net/~ramon/ubuntu-dvd-en
[12:50] <stdin> !sim
[12:50] <ubotu> sim: Simple Instant Messenger (KDE). In component universe, is extra. Version 0.9.4-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 3335 kB, installed size 9304 kB
[12:50] <_sledge_> Does anybody have successfully burned a CD with Kubuntu at all?
[12:50] <gator> yes.
[12:51] <stdin> _sledge_: yes, many times
[12:51] <gator> 1
[12:51] <gator> Out of 1.
[12:51] <MementoMori> !kpowermanager
[12:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kpowermanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:51] <cloakable> _sledge_: Yep, I have a perfect 6.10 cd
[12:51] <_sledge_> I've two machines with different dvd burners and I get the same effin' error message all the time.
[12:51] <stdin> _sledge_: what's the error you get?
[12:51] <MementoMori> _sledge_: try changing cds
[12:51] <gator> Its not that hard to burn a cd.
[12:52] <gator> Its more of common sense.
[12:52] <frank_> I'm getting this build error while trying to build cinelerra: audioesound.o: In function `AudioESound::open_input()':/home/frank/cinelerra-temp/hvirtual/cinelerra/audioesound.C:80: undefined reference to `esd_open_sound'
[12:52] <frank_> any ideas?
[12:52] <sonicGB> hmmm, sim looks good
[12:52] <stdin> sim's quite nice, yeah
[12:53] <cntb> stdin: important question !! for everyone who wants to make transition to linux
[12:53] <sonicGB> frank_: that can be tough to troubleshoot, sometimes happens when you have version mismatches in different packages
[12:53] <stdin> frank_: why not use the version in the ubuntu repositories?
[12:54] <sonicGB> for eg if cinelerra requires something_else 0.12 and you've only got 0.11, etc...
[12:54] <stdin> cntb: what?
[12:54] <sonicGB> !ask | cntb
[12:54] <ubotu> cntb: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:54] <frank_> stdin: sonicGB: cinelerra is not in the repos. and the ubuntu deb on the cinelerra webstite doesn't seem to work eithet
[12:55] <stdin> ahh
[12:55] <cntb> stdin I Say and other are worried by same question
[12:55] <stdin> frank_: is that from http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu ?
[12:55] <cntb> using burner at least as in nero
[12:56] <stdin> cntb: nero is c**p :p , i use k3b
[12:56] <frank_> stdin: not exactly. there is another repository for cinelerra for dapper
[12:56] <cntb> sonicGB:  pls calm down
[12:56] <_sledge_> stdin: Sense Code: 0x24 Qual 0x00 (invalid field in cdb) Fru 0x0
[12:56] <_sledge_> Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) error refers to command part, bit ptr 0 (not valid) field ptr 0
[12:56] <sonicGB> cntb: what?
[12:56] <MementoMori> the "power manager" icon in the tray bar show me battery charge status and cpu speed but I cant change it from this program......
[12:56] <_sledge_> Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0
[12:57] <MementoMori> what I'd try?
[12:57] <cntb> and dont you flame me sonicGB I am here to help and be helped
[12:58] <_sledge_> The funny thing is: growisofs seems to burn, but craps out with a "Can't close session" error, while mkisofs & dvdrecord just bail immediately.
[12:58] <rysiek|pl> MementoMori: knetworkmanager does not discover my wireless iface (rausb0)
[12:58] <rysiek|pl> MementoMori: any ideas? I am totally new to this app
[12:58] <sonicGB> cntb: I'm sorry if you thought you were being flamed. I don't think that i've flamed anyone, it certainly wasn't my attempt.
[12:58] <cntb> ok
[12:58] <sonicGB> s/attempt/intent/;
[12:58] <sleepy495> !xgl
[12:58] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:59] <sonicGB> and with that, I think that's quite enough ubuntutude for me for one day! I'm off. Have a great day folks! :-)
[12:59] <_sledge_> !dvdr
[12:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvdr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:59] <flaccid> why are segfaults becoming common with apt-get ??
[12:59] <stdin> _sledge_: what's the error you get?
[12:59] <_sledge_> stdin: scroll up
[01:00] <sonicGB> frank_: btw, cinelerra looks nice, I'm gonna have a go at building that today. If you're still stuck with it, come looking for me later, hopefully I'll have sorted it!
[01:00] <MementoMori> rysiek|pl: http://passivemode.net/updates/2006/5/29/linksys-wusb54gc-linux.html
[01:00] <rysiek|pl> MementoMori: ah, thanks
[01:00] <stdin> _sledge_: what application is that from, k3b?
[01:01] <andre> hello all
[01:01] <_sledge_> stdin: dvdrecord
[01:02] <feprss> Hello all
[01:02] <andre> hey feprss
[01:02] <rysiek|pl> MementoMori: there's nothing there, I have the driver installed and compiled, I also recompiled wpa_supplicant so that it supports the driver, I am able do discover some networks (including my own) with the Wireless Assistant, but KNetworkManager does not see my net iface
[01:03] <feprss> why in kconsole arrow keys aren't working? anyone that can help me?
[01:03] <stdin> _sledge_: I don't know what that error is
[01:03] <stdin> sorry
[01:03] <feprss> when I use up arrow it writes an A, left arrob it writes a B, etc
[01:03] <stdin> _sledge_: try asking in #ubuntu or ##linux
[01:05] <rysiek|pl> anyways, network manager is not an option here, my network card driver does not support the wext
[01:09] <_sledge_> oh lol, growisofs worked...
[01:09] <_sledge_> habeeb it
[01:11] <cntb> please join kubuntu torrent download http://cargol.net/~ramon/ubuntu-dvd-en ! ty already joined guys
[01:11] <stdin> cntb: if you want to advertise something, use #kubuntu-offtopic , this is a support channel
[01:12] <stdin> * please :)
[01:12] <BTR> Hi, is there any app that reminds of autocad?
[01:12] <feprss> wireless assistant from kubuntu doesn't support WPA?
[01:13] <miguel> hola
[01:13] <miguel> k tal?
[01:13] <stdin> feprss: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/WifiDocs/KubuntuWPAHowTo
[01:14] <feprss> BTR http://alts.homelinux.net/search.php?type=priv&q=autocad
[01:14] <gesslar> i'm trying to create a .deb file for a qt program. i think i've got the handle on the "no configure" thing, but i seem to be having this problem that my actual binary isn't making it into the .deb file
[01:15] <gesslar> i'm following these instructions: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Deb_Guide
[01:15] <feprss> yes stdin, but isn't good for novice users :/
[01:15] <feprss> I'm looking for something as in gnome or in wxp
[01:15] <stdin> feprss: I don't use wireless, so that's the only guide i know of
[01:15] <feprss> all right, thanks :)
[01:16] <gesslar> which, btw, needs fixing. i'll try to find someone to email about the problems with the guide
[01:16] <BTR> thanks feprss!
[01:16] <Rorshach> what's that guide, stdin? I'm having difficulty with connecting through my wireless card.
[01:17] <stdin> Rorshach: wireless help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs WPA help https://wiki.kubuntu.org/WifiDocs/KubuntuWPAHowTo
[01:17] <nikola> hi
[01:17] <nikola> i STILL dont know how to install kbfx themes -_-
[01:17] <nikola> its really mean to me :(
[01:17] <nikola> i dont have the configuration software
[01:18] <stdin> gesslar: ask in #ubuntu-doc
[01:18] <gesslar> thanks stdin
[01:18] <stdin> :)
[01:18] <Rorshach> Ironically, I'm thinking everything is working as it should, and is most likely a config problem, as I can detect the wireless networks around me, I just can't connect to mine.
[01:18] <gesslar> wait, is that for the help with building the deb or the reporting of the problems with the docs, stdin?
[01:19] <feprss> oh stdin, that guide looks well, the only requisite is knetworkmanager
[01:19] <feprss> knetworkmanager is myy answer, thanks :)
[01:19] <stdin> gesslar: the docs, wait a sec for the deb help :p
[01:19] <nikola> how do i quit an app from the konsole?
[01:19] <stdin> gesslar: about the deb package, are you going to install it yourself too?
[01:19] <gesslar> gesslar: all right :p
[01:19] <stdin> nikola: Ctrl-C
[01:19] <rysiek|pl> MementoMori: if you ever happen to be in Warsaw, drop me a line and you'll get yourself a cold beer and a decent guide to the city. one of the links you gave me helped. :D JID: rysiek[at] rysiek.ath.cx
[01:19] <gesslar> stdin: yes, ideally.
[01:20] <stdin> gesslar: what type of app is it, source code (with make et all) or just a gui thing?
[01:21] <gesslar> stdin: the app is a qt gui application, it's not a source distribution.
[01:21] <gesslar> i hope i answered that right
[01:21] <gesslar> lol
[01:21] <stdin> gesslar: ahh, ok, on to my next question then :p what part of the guide you posted isn't working ?
[01:22] <MementoMori> rysiek|pl: am happy to read this...... But it's quite difficult I'll ever be in warsaw... I'll drink a cold beer thinking of you here in Italy
[01:22] <rysiek|pl> MementoMori: anyways - thanks a bunch, and cheers :)
[01:22] <gesslar> stdin: the guide is fine, except for the part called "File:file rules" where the bottom of the scrollbox shows that they meant for some of the content to be outside of the scroll box to be instructions, not part of the file info itself
[01:23] <gesslar> stdin: that, i'll bring up to the -doc people
[01:23] <MementoMori> here is late and tomorrow is a working day........ 'nite everybody
[01:23] <gesslar> stdin: other than that, i war largely successful in building my .deb file and it installs just fine, just...well, my binary isn't in the .deb when i check the package information
[01:23] <gesslar> war = was
[01:25] <stdin> gesslar: looks like everything from "</nowiki}}" on isn't in the file, or do you know that already?
[01:25] <gesslar> stdin: and the instructions don't really go into what they mean by "add installation commands". no examples, or anything, so i'm unsure.
[01:25] <gesslar> yes
[01:25] <gesslar> i figured that out :)
[01:26] <gesslar> that's what i was going to report to the maintainer
[01:27] <stdin> gesslar: ahh, so you want to report that to this guy: http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=27599
[01:27] <stdin> gesslar: and you can build the deb in a "hackish" way, if the guide isn't working
[01:28] <gesslar> actually, i just had some inspiration as to why it might not be working
[01:28] <stdin> gesslar: but it's not exactly easy
[01:28] <stdin> gesslar: what's the inspiration? help me, help you :p
[01:29] <gesslar> well, in my .pro file i tell it: DESTDIR = bin
[01:29] <gesslar> so the binary file doesn't end up in the main directory when it compiles
[01:29] <gesslar> so maybe the deb maker thing isn't FINDING the binary
[01:29] <gesslar> so it has nothing to put in the .deb
[01:29] <gesslar> i'm changing it to leave the binary in the main directory
[01:31] <stdin> humm
[01:31] <stdin> in "File:file rules" gesslar ?
[01:32] <gesslar> darnit
[01:32] <gesslar> it didn't find it, still
[01:32] <gesslar> ok?
[01:32] <gesslar> i have rules open
[01:32] <stdin> in the guide, it on line 45
[01:32] <gesslar> stdin: oh my goodness
[01:33] <gesslar> stdin: i completely missed that
[01:33] <stdin> heh :p
[01:33] <gesslar> stdin: oh, but that line's already in my rules file
[01:33] <stdin> still, you may need it in that file too
[01:33] <draik> !yakuake
[01:33] <ubotu> yakuake: Yet Another Kuake, KDE terminal emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 67 kB, installed size 488 kB
[01:34] <gesslar> love yakuake
[01:34] <draik> I do too
[01:34] <draik> but I can't seem to find it in the repos for dapper
[01:34] <stdin> draik: you need to enable universe
[01:34] <stdin> !universe | draik
[01:34] <ubotu> draik: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:34] <gesslar> stdin: it's in that file
[01:35] <draik> I just updated my sources list from source-o-matic
[01:35] <draik> I know about the repos, I just don't know why I wasn't able to find it
[01:35] <stdin> draik: did you tick the box with "Community maintained" in it?
[01:35] <draik> I had everything enabled
[01:35] <draik> ???
[01:35] <draik> There was only the one that asked if you wanted src
[01:36] <stdin> draik: that's not it, post your sources.list on pastebin
[01:36] <stdin> !pastebin
[01:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:37] <draik> http://pastebin.com/853925
[01:37] <draik> stdin:
[01:37] <draik> There was my list
[01:38] <draik> stdin: http://pastebin.com/853925
[01:38] <stdin> ok
[01:38] <draik> list to my laptop anyway
[01:39] <stdin> draik: can you see it in adept?
[01:39] <draik> stdin: I don't use adept
[01:39] <draik> I just updated the file and used konsole
[01:39] <stdin> gesslar: maybe follow another guide, that one seems not to be very good
[01:39] <rysiek|pl> cu all, gtg
[01:40] <gesslar> stdin: do you know of any other?
[01:40] <stdin> draik: did you run "sudo apt-get update" after you changed the file?
[01:40] <draik> stdin: I'm currently running     sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[01:40] <stdin> gesslar: i'm googleing now :p
[01:40] <draik> stdin: yup
[01:40] <draik> I'm on the last update
[01:40] <draik> err.. upgrade
[01:41] <stdin> draik: what dose "apt-cache search yakuake" show ?
[01:41] <draik> 1sec
[01:41] <draik> finishing up the upgrade
[01:41] <beels15> german
[01:41] <beels15> deutsch
[01:42] <stdin> !de
[01:42] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:42] <draik> stdin: got it!
[01:42] <gesslar> !fr
[01:42] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:42] <thompa> anybody know hot to make kmpalyer open bbc radio?
[01:42] <stdin> draik: :)
[01:43] <stdin> gesslar: maybe https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToBuildDebianPackagesFromScratch
[01:43] <thompa> If I could avoid real player somehow...
[01:43] <stdin> thompa: have you got w32codecs ?
[01:43] <thompa> im on kubuntu64
[01:43] <thompa> i dont think it will work
[01:44] <draik> hmmm
[01:44] <draik> still not on my K menu
[01:44] <gesslar> stdin: thanks!
[01:44] <thompa> i think there is a way for mplayer using codecs at hand or something
[01:44] <thompa> but mplayer wont install
[01:44] <draik> CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[01:44] <manom> hi everybody, do you know where can i get help about compiling kdebluetooth from svn trunk?
[01:45] <lupine_85> manom: whoever manages the svn trunk will provide compilation instruction
[01:45] <lupine_85> ...s
[01:45] <thompa> nevermind mplayer is installed it seems
[01:45] <stdin> thompa: I'm not sure you can do it then, short of installing a basic system in a chroot
[01:45] <manom> :) thanks
[01:46] <stdin> draik: try logging out, and back in
[01:46] <thompa> stdin: the bbc radio site will work without real player im sure, if not ill chroot whatever that is
[01:46] <draik> Just did
[01:46] <draik> CTRL ALT BACKSPACE
[01:46] <draik> I got it back
[01:47] <stdin> !chroot
[01:47] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[01:47] <stdin> thompa: ^^
[01:49] <gesslar> stdin: i figured it out! :)
[01:49] <gesslar> stdin: thanks tonnes :)
[01:49] <stdin> gesslar: yay :D
[01:49] <jpr_> hello
[01:49] <stdin> hi
[01:50] <jpr_> my first time using IRC
[01:50] <stdin> well welcome to the #kubuntu channel :)
[01:50] <jpr_> Thanks
[01:50] <draik> Welcome to #kubuntu
[01:51] <nikola> hi
[01:51] <nikola> afk
[01:51] <jpr_> Hello
[01:51] <draik> What can we do for you today jpr_
[01:51] <draik> ?
[01:52] <jpr_> I've installed ubuntu linux on one of my machines and i'm just messing around with it, it's great
[01:54] <draik> If you need help, this would be the place
[01:54] <jpr_> I am having a problem with ktorrent
[01:55] <draik> ok
[01:55] <draik> simple questions first...
[01:55] <draik> Are you on a router?
[01:55] <jpr_> I can download one torrent no problem, but if i try to download a second i get an error
[01:55] <jpr_> yes i'm on a router
[01:56] <stdin> what's the error you get?
[01:56] <draik> did you port forward?
[01:56] <draik> actually, nevermind
[01:56] <jpr_> don't know about port forwarding
[01:56] <draik> what type of router do you have?
[01:56] <draik> actually, hold on
[01:57] <draik> I know of a place that has the manual for every router for port forwarding
[01:57] <jpr_> it just says that there was a problem opening the torrent, and to try saving it first
[01:57] <draik> hmmm
[01:57] <stian__> meeh...
[01:58] <Calmcacil> this is mean
[01:58] <jpr_> is it port forwarding thats the problem?
[01:58] <draik> could be
[01:58] <draik> let me find the manual
[01:58] <Calmcacil> cant get wlan working -_-
[01:58] <stdin> jpr_: ahh, so try downloading the .torrent file to your desktop, then opening it in ktorrent
[01:58] <jpr_> I never had a problem like this on the other operating system
[01:58] <stdin> !wifi | Calmcacil
[01:58] <ubotu> Calmcacil: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:58] <sleepy495> is there a web site or tutorial on installing xgl/compiz for dapper? most sites just mention stuff for gnome and edgy..
[01:58] <draik> jpr_: http://portforward.com/
[02:00] <jpr_> thanks
[02:00] <jpr_> I'll have a look at it
[02:00] <draik> It will help you with your specific router and firewall settings
[02:01] <Calmcacil> need to get wlan up with wpa x3
[02:01] <pcnerd37> Hello.  I need some help
[02:01] <stdin> Calmcacil: wireless help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs WPA help https://wiki.kubuntu.org/WifiDocs/KubuntuWPAHowTo
[02:01] <jpr_> Why does it allow me to download the first file without any problem?
[02:01] <Calmcacil> im looking at it ;p
[02:02] <stdin> Calmcacil: 2nd link is specifically for WPA
[02:02] <draik> no clue
[02:02] <draik> jpr_: no clue
[02:03] <jpr_> ok draik thanks for your help
[02:03] <pcnerd37> I have just installed the latest version of Kubuntu on my thinkpad and Im having some wireless issues.  When I try to use the wireless assistant to get on a WEP encrypted network, the connection always fails.  I have tried this on several wireless networks with no luck.  Can anybody tell me why this is happening and how i can fix it?
[02:03] <flaccid> pcnerd37: try knetworkmanager
[02:03] <draik> jpr_: no problem
[02:04] <pcnerd37> ok, thanks
[02:04] <pcnerd37> will that work for WPA networks too?
[02:05] <flaccid> yep sure will
[02:05] <flaccid> mind you the devs forgot that now using generic kernel, ipw and other drivers won't be available
[02:05] <pcnerd37> great
[02:05] <flaccid> so hopefully your card is fine or uses wext
[02:06] <pcnerd37> i hope so too
[02:06] <jlh_> hello
[02:07] <stdin> hi
[02:07] <jlh_> Thsi is my first time using this app
[02:08] <jpr_> same here
[02:08] <stdin> then welcome to #kubuntu
[02:08] <jlh_> I have not been to this IRC channel before.
[02:08] <jlh_> I'm a long time Debian user.
[02:08] <stdin> #kubuntu is the support channel for Kubuntu
[02:08] <jlh_> EDGY
[02:08] <stdin> <-- feisty :)
[02:09] <Seeker`> <--- windows XP
[02:09] <stdin> BOO! :p
[02:09] <jlh_> seeker are you using Mirc
[02:09] <stdin> how's kqemu going Seeker` ?
[02:10] <BluesKaj> stdin, is feisty stable in your opinion ?
[02:10] <stdin> BluesKaj: it's been quite stable, for me (TM)
[02:10] <stdin> Uptime: 14 days, 10 hours and 46 minutes
[02:11] <stian__> grrr
[02:11] <stian__> this is so anoying
[02:11] <jlh_> Your not running it as a server are you?
[02:11] <Calmcacil> when i join a WPA network
[02:11] <Calmcacil> wlan
[02:11] <Calmcacil> my computer freezes up
[02:11] <stdin> BluesKaj: but it's not considered stable, it's still under development
[02:11] <stdin> jlh_: nope, well only samba and ssh
[02:11] <Calmcacil> i am using ndiswrapper
[02:11] <Seeker`> jlh_: Yes, I am using MIRC
[02:12] <BluesKaj> yeah i'm aware of that , simply curious , stdin :)
[02:12] <Calmcacil> anyone have any ideas
[02:12] <jlh_> That's a cool program. I used it for about 12 yrs
[02:12] <stdin> BluesKaj: I've got edgy on another partition, just in case, but I haven't had to use it so fat
[02:12] <Seeker`> stdin: I've got it running. I am attempting to install XP with it so I have even less reasons to boot in windows. but it keeps on stopping at 35% installed
[02:12] <stdin> s/fat/far/
[02:13] <stdin> Seeker`: I remember trying to install XP in qemu, too for ever, so I gave up and used vmware
[02:13] <jlh_> VMware rocks
[02:14] <Calmcacil> grr
[02:14] <Calmcacil> anoying crap
[02:14] <stdin> I use qemu where I can
[02:14] <jlh_> Just remember there are great commercial apps out there.
[02:14] <Seeker`> oooh...just made it to 37%
[02:14] <jpiccolo> whats the app that shows weather on your desktop
[02:14] <jlh_> I never had a sucessful load using Qemu
[02:14] <stdin> Seeker`: just leave it for a few hours, and hope it don't crash :p
[02:15] <jlh_> kweather
[02:15] <stdin> jlh_: you can even open vmware images in qemu :)
[02:15] <Seeker`> thats what i'm thiking of doing
[02:15] <Calmcacil> wpa kinda sucks
[02:15] <BluesKaj> i used GParted to setup and resize the Windows NTFS and Edgy ext partitions ...worked well as a live cd for me
[02:15] <Seeker`> the problem is that my desktop is very noisy, so i may not be able to get much sleep
[02:15] <jlh_> No, Just use Vmware and create a vmware image.
[02:16] <jlh_> vmware is free. Check out the website.
[02:16] <BluesKaj> VMWare, bah humbug ! :)
[02:16] <jlh_> It works
[02:16] <stdin> jlh_: use qemu to create a vmware image, and qemu is free (really free GPL)
[02:16] <BluesKaj> I don't see the point of it
[02:16] <jlh_> Do you work in IT
[02:16] <jlh_> ?
[02:17] <stdin> or just use XEN :p
[02:17] <jlh_> You have to learn something other than opensource apps.
[02:18] <stdin> jlh_: yeah, but when you can use oss, you should :p
[02:18] <jlh_> Corporate networks are not built entirely on opensource
[02:18] <stdin> all the computers I work on use GNU/Linux
[02:18] <Seeker`> jlh_: But when at home you can use as much (or as little) oss as you like
[02:19] <jlh_> You work in a corporate environment?
[02:19] <BluesKaj> I just logon to windows (if I really need to), which becoming less and less frequent as time goes by. :)
[02:19] <Seeker`> jlh_: Yep
[02:19] <jlh_> how many users?
[02:19] <jlh_> Hard to believe that all computers are oss top to bottom...
[02:20] <Seeker`> in the company i work for? probably a couple of thousand. I dont work in the IT department, I work in R&D
[02:20] <Seeker`> All of the computers I use for anything other than checking email run linux
[02:20] <jlh_> That's different
[02:21] <BluesKaj> most corporations hire windows IT admin guys : hence the prevalence of windows where there is no need for it
[02:21] <jlh_> When you send people out the field, they will have to connect and use applications that interface with the dealer location.
[02:21] <K`zan> Am I doing something wrong or is wine not a ubuntu package?
[02:22] <stdin> !wine
[02:22] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:22] <stdin> !info wine
[02:22] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB
[02:22] <stdin> K`zan: it is an ubuntu package, follow that guide
[02:23] <stdin> s/is/has/
[02:23] <Seeker`> jlh_: It is possible to use open source software in most (if not all) situations
[02:23] <soulrider> hi everyone
[02:24] <jlh_> Who is going to pay to move, train and rewrite applications
[02:25] <jlh_> This is why makes more sense to attack small emerging companies
[02:25] <Seeker`> jlh_: One of the problems at the moment is that people are trained to use windows from the beginning, not use computer or generic applications
[02:25] <jlh_> influence Linux use
[02:25] <jlh_> You don't understand what I'm saying.
[02:26] <K`zan> stdin: Must have something screwy here, have the universe repository but all I get is libwine, libwine-dev and winefish.  Not sure what is going on here...
[02:26] <flaccid> i think linux needs 5 more years to be up there
[02:26] <flaccid> the interoperability just isn't there yet
[02:26] <jlh_> When I move a fileshare to a new location without research, I can break many applications.
[02:27] <stdin> K`zan: huh, how did you search for it?
[02:27] <jlh_> Now think of changing a whole infrastructure.
[02:27] <K`zan> adept just entered "wine"
[02:27] <K`zan> stdin: used adept just entered "wine"
[02:27] <jlh_> Linux needs an administration tool
[02:28] <Seeker`> i'm not saying that it should be used everywhere now
[02:28] <flaccid> jlh_: it has lots already doesn't?
[02:28] <jlh_> with plugins to manage
[02:28] <stdin> K`zan: open konsole, and type in "apt-cache search wine" and see if it's shown there
[02:28] <Seeker`> but given time it definately can be used in a much larger share of the market
[02:28] <stdin> jlh_: look at webmin
[02:29] <flaccid> webmin is shite
[02:29] <jlh_> I know what webmin is.
[02:29] <K`zan> stdin: thanks, trying that now.
[02:29] <flaccid> if you mean a control panel. none free exist that are any good
[02:29] <jlh_> I hear ya
[02:29] <stdin> yes, but that's what he was describing, and the only one I know of like that
[02:29] <jlh_> thats what I'm talking about.
[02:29] <flaccid> oh
[02:29] <flaccid> i'm writing one
[02:29] <flaccid> but it won't be GPL
[02:30] <flaccid> and its going to take me probaly 2 years to finish
[02:30] <cloakable> Oh? Why?
[02:30] <jlh_> We can't lead if we are emulating Windows way of doing things
[02:30] <flaccid> but yes i'm doing this because none free exist that are any good
[02:30] <K`zan> stdin: same results with addition of tellico stuff :-/.
[02:30] <flaccid> i don't think windows has much to do with CPs :)
[02:30] <jlh_> SAmba is nice but we are always trying to be compatable with MS AD
[02:31] <stdin> K`zan: what version of kubuntu are you on? and what architecture?
[02:31] <flaccid> we've been compatible with ms ad for a number of years now with samba
[02:31] <K`zan> edgy, amd64
[02:31] <K`zan> stdin:  edgy, amd64
[02:31] <jlh_> We need to be inovative.
[02:32] <flaccid> we are innovative. just lacks a lot of other stuff
[02:32] <jlh_> Do we really need 10,000 linux distros?
[02:32] <flaccid> no
[02:32] <flaccid> but we need one that beats windows in all aspects
[02:32] <jlh_> WE have no standard
[02:32] <flaccid> not one does that yet
[02:32] <K`zan> jlh_: I don't think so but with the pissing matches that go on, I can't see how that can be avoided...
[02:32] <jlh_> I hear ya
[02:32] <superkirbyartist>  Any ideas for lightweight sound recorder?
[02:33] <jlh_> That's the biggest dissapointment about Linux, to me.
[02:33] <flaccid> its too late to unify *nix. but its not too late to improve what is available
[02:33] <flaccid> superkirbyartist: audacity might be light enough
[02:33] <K`zan> jlh_: if half that energy went into getting stuff done in a VERY few distros, we'd have left m$ in the dust a good while back :-(.
[02:33] <stdin> K`zan: don't think there is a amd64 package for wine
[02:33] <superkirbyartist> flaccid:  Thank you!
[02:33] <jlh_> When I say standardization, I hear your attacking Oss
[02:33] <flaccid> my dislike of linux is distros not living up to name and not satisfying the person trying to come from windows
[02:34] <K`zan> stdin: OK thanks, the amount of stuff that won't run under amd64 (linux and windoz) is staggering :-(.  THanks for the help, much appreciated.
[02:34] <stdin> K`zan: is there any reason you need to run 64bit ?
[02:34] <flaccid> an out-of-the-box emphasis needs to placed on linux. its not out of the box yet, rarely is
[02:34] <jlh_> I would like to setup a re-think website for Linux users and programmers.
[02:35] <jlh_> that would be a start
[02:35] <flaccid> jlh_: so would i . you set it up and i'll post :)
[02:35] <jlh_> I'm graduating in June, I will have more time to invest in Linux.
[02:36] <jlh_> Linux could use a add/remove programs app.
[02:36] <jlh_> I don't mean adept or apt
[02:36] <K`zan> stdin: I think the only good reason is I got bit believing the marketing BS :-/.
[02:36] <Seeker`> isn't that what synaptic does?
[02:36] <conk> yep
[02:36] <stdin> jlh_: what about the one in the kmenu?
[02:36] <jlh_> Most people do not care what a dependancy is
[02:37] <flaccid> jlh_: it does have it
[02:37] <K`zan> stdin: about to uninstall all the 64 bit stuff and just install the 32 bit "equivalents"...
[02:37] <jlh_> kmenu
[02:37] <flaccid> there are a few add/remove gtk apps
[02:37] <stdin> K`zan: the only advantages or 64bit is if you have 4GB+ RAM really
[02:37] <geekster> jlh_ most people also don't care what a .dll is
[02:38] <jlh_> under system settings
[02:38] <jlh_> That's a good place to put it.
[02:38] <stdin> jlh_: Kmenu -> Add/Remove Programs
[02:39] <jlh_> Adobe EAsports don't write apps for us because there are to many distros
[02:39] <bonbonthejon> I am having trouble with kontact
[02:39] <jlh_> They are not going to write 40 versions of an installer
[02:39] <bonbonthejon> kontact will not fully maximize
[02:39] <flaccid> um
[02:39] <flaccid> thats coz they are stupid
[02:39] <jlh_> We need a standard
[02:40] <flaccid> you only need 1 version because of archs
[02:40] <geekster> jlh_ actually i talked to a bunch of the adobe guys at linuxworld, they dont write them more because of the percieved limited market share linux has today.
[02:40] <flaccid> jlh_: adobe is bullshitting basically
[02:40] <stdin> jlh_: linux just don't have enough market share, and you only need 3 packages for linux, a tar.gz a RPM and a DEB
[02:40] <flaccid> jlh_: have a look at nexuiz
[02:40] <jlh_> where do things reside /etc  /home  /var....
[02:40] <flaccid> stdin: or 1 binary installer
[02:40] <flaccid> man:heir
[02:41] <flaccid> hmm no mah:heir in ubuntu, thats not good
[02:41] <stdin> yep, like the nvidia driver installer, works on all linux, only one package
[02:41] <jlh_> What DEB? Not all Debian deb's are compatable with Ubuntu..
[02:41] <flaccid> oh it does
[02:41] <flaccid> i spelt it wrong
[02:41] <dwidmann> jlh_, much of it does seem to be standardized, to some extent
[02:41] <flaccid> jlh_: try man hier
[02:41] <geekster> jlh: there is a lot of issues with linux, same can be said for every OS out there.
[02:41] <jlh_> see what I mean, and that's stated on ubuntu
[02:41] <flaccid> jlh_: trust me its adobe not linux that is the problem
[02:42] <flaccid> nexuiz has one .zip and works on all platforms..........
[02:42] <jlh_> how about a click binary
[02:42] <stdin> jlh_: that's to do with what libs are packaged, and dependencies, just stick the directory tree in a deb, it'll work on all deb systems
[02:42] <geekster> jlh: try clicking on a .deb
[02:42] <jlh_> dpkg -ivh ooooo.beb
[02:42] <flaccid> a click binary is fine. x11 is a standard for gui and sh is standard for shell...
[02:43] <jlh_> you know what I'm talking about.
[02:43] <flaccid> there really isn't a problem
[02:43] <flaccid> it comes down to the developers
[02:43] <flaccid> excuses are always made..
[02:43] <jlh_> They don't all work. Let's keep out of the Linux fantasy world
[02:43] <flaccid> that sounds like a pathetic excuse
[02:44] <geekster> jlh_ i do know what your talking about and there is still a few pieces missing i do not disagree, but i think you will see windows has the same issues for a lot of stuff too.
[02:44] <flaccid> 'i want linux to rule', 'be easy on them they don't work' wtf
[02:44] <jlh_> I think there are better ways of doing things but I don't see them challenging MS
[02:44] <flaccid> things need to be treated on a professional level or it won't compete
[02:44] <flaccid> there is nothing missing.... i just disproved that
[02:44] <stdin> jlh_: depends on the package, but if you realace a full app, with all it's dependencies in it, it will work on any deb system
[02:45] <flaccid> a binary installer negates the need for more than 1 way of distribution
[02:45] <stdin> place not replace
[02:45] <geekster> jlh: better be glad its there or you would be even more harrassed with virus's and spyware, ms wouldnt have the competition forcing them to look better and more secure
[02:45] <homer> assuming KDE 4 comes out 2 weeks before fiesty comes out
[02:45] <jlh_> Right, but who wants to research all that. I can't get people to stop opening unknown mail senders.
[02:45] <homer> will it be included?
[02:45] <dwidmann> homer, kde4 will not be default in kubuntu
[02:46] <stdin> homer: I doubt KDE 4 will be out any time soon
[02:46] <dwidmann> it will be made available upon completion
[02:46] <flaccid> probably someone that wants to put some effort into the gnu/linux mission.........
[02:46] <stdin> not released anyway
[02:46] <homer> stdin: alot of KDE devs are working solely on KDE 4 now, so you never know
[02:46] <dwidmann> it will be a seperate set of packages entirely, kde3 apps are not compatible with kde4 at all, also, the settings directory will be ~/.kde4
[02:46] <stdin> homer: it'll take more than 4 months tho :p
[02:47] <flaccid> well i read there was a qt3 compatibility wrapper in qt4...........
[02:47] <jlh_> Most people want to sit on an IRC channel and piss each other off, rather than finding a solution to one major problem before moving on to the next.
[02:47] <flaccid> even showed that to me when i compiled qt4
[02:47] <geekster> jlh_: how much software have you released and how many how-to's have you written???
[02:47] <flaccid> most people i doubt ti. some perhaps, but that is not all people. nowhere near it
[02:47] <stdin> off topic discussions are supposed to be in #kubuntu-offtopic
[02:48] <geekster> k
[02:48] <flaccid> myself i've written articles, helped, reported bugs etc. something that a lot of people do here
[02:48] <jlh_> KDE will get some major apps designed for us because they will standarize something and distribute their toolkit like MS pushes the ASP suite
[02:48] <homer> it seems the ubuntu people have a special plan for KDE 4 if it get released
[02:48] <geekster> ditto flaccid and its why i do anytime in irc at all
[02:49] <geekster> i personally can't wait to see kde4... quite excited.
[02:49] <jlh_> I'm the freakin' penguin. What does it matter. I use Linux
[02:49] <stdin> i'm gonna wait until at least RC1 to try kde4
[02:49] <homer> plasma looks to be the coolest part of it
[02:49] <geekster> glad to finally have my treo syncing with kontact.
[02:50] <homer> but that is really pre-alpha
[02:50] <homer> alot of libraries are mature while others are pre-alpha
[02:50] <brandon> hey can someone tell me if there is a way to fix flash on myspace so that it displays the players correctly
[02:50] <homer> like phonon is pretty mature
[02:50] <K`zan> stdin: based on my experiences so far, I agree :-).  I don't have anything that needs 4G of RAM so I might as well install the 32 bit versions :-/.
[02:50] <stdin> yeah, not developer release, a release candidate
[02:50] <dwidmann> I think I'll wait til there are debs ... takes too much bandwidth to keep up with svn
[02:50] <jlh_> I will be happy we are not always adding "finally" when something works.
[02:50] <stdin> K`zan: it will save you a whole lot of trouble :p
[02:51] <homer> also KWin improvements look cool
[02:51] <homer> KHTML is really heavy development
[02:51] <K`zan> stdin: I would have :-) but I have already beat my head bloody finding out what works and what doesn't :-).  At least I can stop that now :-).
[02:51] <dwidmann> I wonder if they're working on a new kwin theme or not, hmmm
[02:51] <homer> lots of commits to it
[02:51] <geekster> im quite happy with kde as it is but cooler is nice and kde4 definetly looks to deliver on that.
[02:52] <bonbonthejon> can someone help me figure out how to get konqueror to work with Novell BorderManager
[02:53] <jlh_> see ya all
[03:13] <BluesKaj> what's force removal command for an unwanted file that consistently wants to install
[03:13] <BluesKaj> ?
[03:13] <stdin> apt-get remove ?
[03:14] <bonbonthejon> BluesKaj: apt-get purge?
[03:14] <Hobbsee> apt-get remove --purge
[03:14] <BluesKaj> no, apt doesn't work
[03:14] <stdin> BluesKaj: what's exactly is the situation ?
[03:15] <BluesKaj> trying to get risd of calmav it intereferes with upgrades in synaptic
[03:15] <BluesKaj> clamav
[03:15] <stdin> BluesKaj: try with aptitude remove
[03:16] <Jiong> ?
[03:34] <Alter-Ego> does kubuntu have a billing clock/timer ?
[03:37] <denis> good mornmng
[03:37] <denis> h morning
[03:38] <denis> I have a problem with adept since I upgraded to kubuntu 6.10
[03:38] <radiant> can someone do a /whois on me and post it in whisper?
[03:39] <denis> I have 27 packages to update but everytime I want to do that the package to be updatet is shown as (break)
[03:39] <denis> any idea?
[03:41] <denis> perhaps because of the sources.list?
[03:41] <denis> :-/
[03:42] <BluesKaj> the calmav pkg is broken and upgrading doesn't work and purging won't either ...stuck in limbo and it's interfering with upgrading other pkgs
[03:42] <BluesKaj> clamav
[03:47] <n8k99> hey there
[03:49] <bonbonthejon> hi
[03:49] <denis> bye
[03:51] <draik> Can I convert pdf to another format?
[03:51] <draik> In Kubuntu, can I convert pdf to doc, odt or another format?
[04:00] <nikola> guess what?
[04:00] <nikola> I GOT KBFX TO WORK
[04:00] <nikola> KIND OF
[04:01] <nikola> I kinda cheated it into working :P
[04:01] <bonbonthejon> nikola: did you use the repository?
[04:01] <nikola> nope
[04:01] <Annirak> How would I go about recording a 15-minute audio clip from line-in at specific times of day?
[04:01] <nikola> there is a place where you can change the look of the bar in the bar settings
[04:01] <nikola> i did that
[04:02] <nikola> then i dloaded a program that became my kbfx button
[04:02] <lupine_85> Annirak: $console recording program + cron
[04:02] <nikola> thats all
[04:02] <nikola> my computer now looks like.............. windows xp...................
[04:02] <bonbonthejon> eww
[04:02] <nikola> wow, this is totally an OS confused Mac
[04:02] <bonbonthejon> lol
[04:02] <nikola> iz still my fav computer :P
[04:03] <nikola> mainly cuz i cant get my hands on my dad's macpro ><
[04:03] <Annirak> lupine_85: any suggestions for the console based recording program?
[04:03] <nikola> oh, that reminds me
[04:03] <nikola> how do i get my webcam and mic to work with kubuntu?
[04:04] <lupine_85> Annirak: no, sorry.
[04:06] <geoffb> Hey folks, kubuntu on an intel macbook! woo! a much easier windowing system to cope with than OS X! I'm stuck with screen resolution of 1024x768, I want/need 1280x800, no option to change it in the gui. May I have some pointers on how to fix that please?
[04:12] <BluesKaj> geoffb, sys/settings/monitor&display/hardware/admin mode/scrnsize slider
[04:13] <BluesKaj> correction geoffb,sys/settings/monitor&display/admin mode/scrnsize slider
[04:18] <makuseru> anyone know a channel i can go to for videogame help?
[04:20] <geoffb> BluesKaj: thanks, I've tried that, I don't have options beyond 1204x768... at the moment I'm digging in xorg.conf to rectify that
[04:23] <BluesKaj> yes, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' ...there you'll see the options for scrn resolutions
[04:24] <BluesKaj> !xorg
[04:24] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:25] <BluesKaj> !xserver-xorg
[04:25] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 (edgy), package size 165 kB, installed size 584 kB
[04:25] <makuseru> anyone know a channel i can go to for videogame help?
[04:25] <BluesKaj> !xserver
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <BluesKaj> heh
[04:25] <stdin> !xconf
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xconf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:26] <scorp2025> Hi, I need to install the gettext-ruby1.8 package in Dapper, unfortunately the given version is quite buggy and more or less useless for my purpose.
[04:26] <scorp2025> What shall I do?
[04:26] <prophitinc> hey i need help setting up a password for su
[04:26] <stdin> !xconfig
[04:26] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". To configure only the driver and resolution, type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh".
[04:26] <stdin> ahh :)
[04:26] <BluesKaj> that's it
[04:26] <stdin> prophitinc: use sudo
[04:27] <prophitinc> sudo
[04:27] <stdin> !sudo
[04:27] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:27] <j_> Hey, I feel rude, is it ok if I ask for some help in here? lol
[04:27] <stdin> !ask
[04:27] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:27] <prophitinc> i need to install java
[04:27] <prophitinc> i downloaded 2 different files
[04:28] <j_> just installed kubuntu, and all my images are screwed up, it's like on a badly compressed video, all the black space in any image is like green and scrambled
[04:28] <stdin> !java | prophitinc
[04:28] <ubotu> prophitinc: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[04:28] <makuseru> prophitinc: you could use automatix
[04:28] <prophitinc> whats that
[04:28] <stdin> !ausomatix
[04:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ausomatix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:28] <stdin> !automatix
[04:28] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:28] <makuseru> lies
[04:28] <stdin> ^^^ automatix = bad
[04:28] <makuseru> it dosnt break anything
[04:28] <makuseru> no
[04:28] <stdin> yes
[04:28] <stdin> :p
[04:29] <makuseru> automatix = makes EVERYTHINg easier
[04:29] <notech> seen itt hose a different distro
[04:29] <makuseru> its for ubuntu based distros only
[04:29] <makuseru> w32 codecs, multimedia codes, mplayer and flash plugin for FF and java
[04:29] <makuseru> prophitinc: www.getautomatix.com
[04:29] <notech> no it isn't, or maybe it was automatrix. something along the ssame thing
[04:30] <prophitinc> how do i enable multiverse?
[04:30] <makuseru> yes automatix is ubuntu ONLY
[04:30] <makuseru> it says it on its main site
[04:30] <BluesKaj> hmmm, can't seem to purge or upgrade a broken pkg ...what does one do to get rid of it ?
[04:30] <stdin> automatix can leave your system in an an usable state when you try and upgrade, if you use it, you do so AT YOUR OWN RISK
[04:30] <BluesKaj> it won't fix either
[04:30] <BluesKaj> din't used automtix
[04:31] <BluesKaj> use
[04:31] <stdin> BluesKaj: that statement wasn't directed at you :) what package is it, clamav?
[04:31] <makuseru> stdin: automatix does only good
[04:31] <prophitinc> so how do you enable multiverse?
[04:31] <stdin> makuseru: like I say, if it breaks your system, too bad
[04:31] <notech> makuseru: maybe for you, but many others have had troubles
[04:32] <BluesKaj> yeah, damn thing sticks like sh..t to a blanket
[04:32] <stdin> !multiverse | prophitinc
[04:32] <ubotu> prophitinc: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:32] <stdin> BluesKaj: try sudo dpkg -r clamav
[04:32] <david_> salut
[04:33] <david_> ya quelqun?
[04:33] <stdin> !fr
[04:33] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:33] <BluesKaj> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove clamav which isn't installed...strangest thing, yet it keeps wanting to upgrade WTF ?
[04:34] <stdin> BluesKaj: what dose "dpkg --list | grep clamav" show?
[04:34] <stdin> BluesKaj: pastebin if it's large
[04:34] <notech> Automatix2 does not replace your sources list. It adds missing official sources and some safe third party sources to your existing sources.list  ...... so nice of them to determine what 3rd party are safe while giving you no choice in the matter
[04:35] <stdin> notech: and why not just do it the safe way, following the guides on help.ubuntu.com ?
[04:35] <BluesKaj> just pmd ya, stdin
[04:36] <BluesKaj> well queryed
[04:36] <notech> stdin: i would never use automatix
[04:37] <stdin> BluesKaj: try "sudo dpkg -r clamav-base clamav-daemon clamav-freshclam ibclamav1 "
[04:38] <BluesKaj> warning: ignoring request to remove ibclamav1 which isn't installed
[04:38] <stdin> people should not reccommend automatix, or easyubuntu, as both can do considerable damage, if you still want to use it, then good luck
[04:39] <BluesKaj> easyubuntu is a bit better , not as damaging as automatix
[04:39] <php-freak> $ lynx -source http://go-pear.org/ | php ?
[04:39] <php-freak> $ lynx -source http://go-pear.org/ | php  how do i run this?
[04:39] <stdin> BluesKaj: huh... , try " sudo dpkg -r clamav-base clamav-daemon clamav-freshclam"
[04:40] <php-freak> $ lynx -source http://go-pear.org/ | php  how do i run this?
[04:41] <stdin> !php
[04:41] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[04:41] <stdin> !php3
[04:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about php3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:41] <stdin> !php4
[04:41] <ubotu> php4: server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package). In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.4.2-1.1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[04:41] <stdin> php-freak: try installing that
[04:41] <holger> hello
[04:41] <stdin> php-freak: then run the command in konsole
[04:42] <php-freak> i already got that installed
[04:42] <php-freak> stdin? what are you talking about
[04:42] <php-freak> I'm asking how do I installed pear
[04:42] <j_> j_
[04:42] <php-freak> do you know anything about php
[04:42] <php-freak> http://pear.php.net/manual/en/installation.getting.php its telling me how to install pear here, and thats what im trying to do
[04:42] <stdin> php-freak: you have to install php, then run the command it says in konsole
[04:43] <php-freak> stdin: php is install cli version/ web version
[04:43] <php-freak>  -source http://go-pear.org/ | php
[04:43] <php-freak> i run that
[04:43] <php-freak> unkown command
[04:43] <holger> is there a way to delete the last entry from history. "history -d" wants to know the offset, but i don't know the offset of the last element. mmh
[04:44] <stdin> php-freak: ok, if you have it installed, just run the command in console as "lynx -source http://pear.php.net/go-pear | php -q"
[04:44] <php-freak> command not found
[04:45] <holger> "history | tail -n 2" returns the offset i want to know, how can i match it?
[04:45] <stdin> php-freak: try: "wget http://go-pear.org/ -O - | php -q"
[04:47] <_sledge_> Did you mean: ubuntu upgrade from edgy to frosty
[04:47] <_sledge_> rofl
[04:47] <_sledge_> :P
[04:48] <BluesKaj> snowman is the latest > :)
[04:50] <php-freak> stdin: cool got it whats the -O -q for?
[04:51] <stdin> php-freak: the '-O -' makes wget output the file to stdout, and but I don't know what the '-q' option to php dose
[04:55] <zshay> are the servers for apt-get running slow today?
[04:56] <zshay> all of my downloads are going normal speed except for apt-get downloads...
[04:57] <virustech> hi! who can tell me how to play mp3 music on my kubuntu? please
[04:57] <_sledge_> !mp3
[04:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:57] <Annirak> how do I change the volume of /dev/dsp?
[04:57] <Annirak> Well, for recording audio, that is
[04:58] <stdin> Annirak: use kmix for that
[04:58] <stdin> zshay: depends which servers you are using
[04:59] <Annirak> stdin I'm trying to record audio from a script.  Can I use kmix to change the audio in that scenario?
[05:00] <stdin> Annirak: that should work, or alsamixer
[05:01] <Search4Lancer> eeee problem!
[05:01] <Search4Lancer> I've been doing some rearraging in my room and left my laptop unplugged and of course it died
[05:02] <Search4Lancer> I just started it back up and the screen size was at 800x600 (not sure what it was before), which is definitely not right
[05:02] <Search4Lancer> I tried changing it to the larger value, and rather than making everything smaller (the desired effect) everything stayed the same size, and the screen was scrolling
[05:02] <stdin> !xconfig | Search4Lancer
[05:02] <ubotu> Search4Lancer: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". To configure only the driver and resolution, type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh".
[05:03] <stdin> Search4Lancer: use the last command there ^^
[05:03] <Search4Lancer> it's the resolution that's the problem, correct?
[05:03] <stdin> Search4Lancer: yes
[05:04] <Search4Lancer> that didn't do much
[05:04] <stdin> Search4Lancer: what happened when you ran it?
[05:05] <Search4Lancer> "warning: not updating /etc/X11/X; file has been customized"
[05:05] <Search4Lancer> and it overwrote it, but with who knows what
[05:06] <stdin> Search4Lancer: ahh, run this first: sudo sh -c 'md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum'
[05:06] <stdin> Search4Lancer: then "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh" again
[05:07] <Search4Lancer> same result (or lack thereof)
[05:07] <stdin> Search4Lancer: what version of kubuntu are you on?
[05:08] <Search4Lancer> heck if I know... I tried to upgrade to Edgy and it didn't work, so... Dapper?
[05:08] <Search4Lancer> kind of silly that there aren't resolution settings somewhere easily accessible
[05:09] <stdin> Search4Lancer: in konsole type: md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5su
[05:09] <stdin> Search4Lancer: correction: md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[05:10] <Search4Lancer> result: c6c0b7a666f6d7b298b3eb42cda2f713  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:11] <stdin> Search4Lancer: ok, now type : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[05:11] <stdin> Search4Lancer: toy should see a a blue menu come up
[05:11] <stdin> (sort of)
[05:12] <Balsamic_Chicken> good evening stdin
[05:12] <Balsamic_Chicken> =)
[05:12] <thompa> is there a special kernel i want for amd64 duo core, it installed with generic, ?
[05:12] <stdin> good morning Balsamic_Chicken :p
[05:12] <stdin> thompa: generic is fine
[05:12] <thompa> there is amd64 generic also though
[05:12] <Balsamic_Chicken> what's the equivalent of krdc remote desktop connection in ubuntu?
[05:12] <Search4Lancer> stdin: still gives me the whole "not updating, possibly customized" schpeel
[05:13] <stdin> Search4Lancer: try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:13] <stdin> (without the -phigh)
[05:13] <draik> Doees     dpkg --get-selection    work for anyone?
[05:13] <thompa> stdin: shouldnt i be using amd64-k8-smp or something?
[05:13] <stdin> draik: yes, but it's dpkg --get-selections
[05:14] <draik> stdin: UGH... I hate missing that one letter
[05:14] <stdin> thompa: no, they have all been merged in to the generic one
[05:14] <draik> stdin: Thank you... again
[05:14] <MarcC-Li> where can I find the settings for the "lock screen" command? It stopped displaying the screensaver all of a sudden.
[05:14] <stdin> !generic
[05:14] <ubotu> Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[05:14] <thompa> stdin: good enough
[05:14] <thompa> tanx
[05:14] <draik> stdin: I've had so much help from you today. I thank you for that. When do I get your bill?
[05:15] <draik> woohoo... plugin works!
[05:15] <Balsamic_Chicken> what's the equivalent of krdc remote desktop connection in ubuntu?
[05:15] <stdin> draik: no problem, but all donations are welcome :p j/k
[05:15] <draik> stdin: why not?
[05:16] <BluesKaj> nite all
[05:16] <stdin> draik: hey, if you want to send my money, I won't stop you
[05:16] <draik> stdin: Depends, where's it going?
[05:17] <stdin> draik: i'm in the UK
[05:17] <draik> Hmmm...
[05:17] <draik> stdin: I'm in the US
[05:17] <thompa> !xgl
[05:17] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:17] <draik> stdin: might be a BIT of a problem there
[05:17] <Search4Lancer> yuy I don't even know what to put for half the crap it's asking me
[05:17] <stdin> Balsamic_Chicken: ask in #ubuntu ?
[05:18] <stdin> Search4Lancer: just leave as default (press enter), until you get to the resolution part
[05:18] <stdin> draik: paypal :p
[05:18] <draik> stdin: That's what I was thinking
[05:18] <draik> stdin: I deal with paypal at work all day long
[05:19] <draik> stdin: It's just a matter of conversion now
[05:19] <stdin> I can't remember the last time I used it, but it's useful to have one i guess
[05:20] <draik> stdin: Its about what... $1 USD is about $0.50 or so
[05:20] <draik> I know my USD is worthless to you
[05:20] <draik> so I have to bulk it up just right
[05:21] <stdin> draik: google says $1 = 0.516182316  :p
[05:21] <draik> yup
[05:22] <stdin> Search4Lancer: 1024x768 is standard, but you can go bigger
[05:22] <Search4Lancer> well it's a widescreen laptop
[05:22] <stdin> ahh, ok
[05:22] <Search4Lancer> it has 1280*800 selected... I think that's what I've been using
[05:24] <stdin> yeah, sounds right
[05:25] <Search4Lancer> okay.... I'm done.... now what? restart xorg?
[05:27] <stdin> Search4Lancer: yes, you just logout, and choose "restart X server" from the login menu (or press Ctrl-Alt-BackSpace if you can't find it)
[05:30] <Search4Lancer> :-\ still seems wrong
[05:30] <Search4Lancer> well, still _is_ wrong
[05:30] <stdin> is it a different resolution tho?
[05:31] <Search4Lancer> no... I'm pretty sure it's the same as it was a moment ago
[05:32] <stdin> maybe this page can help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:36] <Balsamic_Chicken> i'm trying to connect to someone that's could use krdc, once i know his ip address, how do i connect to him, does he need to have some application open for me to be able to connect with him?
[05:37] <stdin> Balsamic_Chicken: don't know, but here's a help page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[05:38] <Balsamic_Chicken> stdin ty
[05:38] <stdin> np , hope it helps
[05:45] <apixelatedoffice> I recently installed KDE, which is better with the KDE desktop... easy ubuntu OR automatix?
[05:45] <stdin> nither
[05:45] <kai_> wasup
[05:45] <stdin> see this warning:
[05:45] <stdin> !automatix
[05:45] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:46] <stdin> if you still want to install, then go ahead
[05:46] <kai_> How would I go about releasing and renewing my Ip number if linus?
[05:46] <apixelatedoffice> hmm, yeah, I want some stuff done fast, but I guess I'd better take it slow.
[05:46] <stdin> kai_: try "sudo ifup --force eth0" if it's the IP of eth0 you want to renew
[05:47] <kai_> ahhh, is that one a wiki for commands and what not
[05:47] <stdin> kai_: huh?
[05:48] <stdin> apixelatedoffice: what things do you want? codecs,flash,java?
[05:48] <kai_> is there a wiki or something where I can look up some ip commmands I can in linux? I don't know any
[05:48] <apixelatedoffice> yeah,... pretty much.
[05:49] <stdin> kai_: all I can recommend is search google, I just happen to have learnt that command
[05:49] <kai_> lol
[05:49] <apixelatedoffice> It's cool, I have a lot to figure out, I'll figure it out soon enough. :)
[05:49] <kai_> ok
[05:49] <stdin> apixelatedoffice: this page has all the info you need: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:50] <apixelatedoffice> oh thanks :)
[05:50] <stdin> no problem
[05:50] <stdin> apixelatedoffice: if you have any other questions, or need help, just ask :)
[05:50] <apixelatedoffice> thanks :)
[05:56] <crav> I have a broadcom bcm4318 that I absolutely cannot get to work. I've read and attmpted at least 10 different guides on the subject. Is it worth my $17 to just get a compatable card?
[05:57] <Balsamic_Chicken> what's good then
[05:57] <stdin> crav: have you read the guides on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs ?
[05:58] <stdin> crav: dapper or edgy?
[05:58] <crav> edgy
[05:58] <aseigo> Riddell: ping
[05:58] <stdin> looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Edgy
[05:58] <aseigo> dammit. wrong channel
[05:58] <stdin> heh
[05:58] <stdin> crav: that link should help
[05:59] <crav> i haven't seen that particular link
[05:59] <crav> i shall try yet again!
[06:00] <crav> right now i'm only online because of windows
[06:00] <crav> so i shall return, hopefully NOT while in windows.
[06:00] <stdin> ok, good luck crav
[06:06] <makuseru> anyone know a channel i can go to for videogame help?
[06:07] <Admiral_Chicago>  /list might know.
[06:07] <Admiral_Chicago> what do you mean video game help
[06:07] <stdin> makuseru: don't think there is one, have you looked at the help page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games
[06:08] <makuseru> no i havent
[06:08] <makuseru> thanks
[06:13] <knapp> Anyone familiar with Devede?
[06:13] <knapp> How can I make chapters in it?
[06:15] <Dr_willis> never heard of it.
[06:15] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:17] <dwidmann> Dr_willis, it's a python app for creating dvds, so now you've heard of it :)
[06:17] <dwidmann> **video dvds
[06:18] <stdin> knapp: when you select a file, you can set chapter length under "Advanced options"
[06:18] <stdin> don't think you can set chapters manually tho, just the length between them
[06:19] <stdin> nice little app there, didn't know about it
[06:20] <knapp> hmm let me take a look
[06:21] <knapp> stdin
[06:21] <stdin> yes
[06:21] <knapp> I have 11 avi files that I want to put on dvd. How can I make it so each (1-11) are chapters?
[06:21] <knapp> 11 chapters
[06:22] <knapp> Maybe just uncheck that box that says split into chapters?
[06:23] <stdin> knapp: don't think you can with that app, I think you can with kmediafactory tho
[06:23] <knapp> *sigh* so many freakin programs
[06:24] <knapp> why cant one do them all :/
[06:24] <stdin> knapp: but you can try unchecking the box and err
[06:24] <stdin> see not err :p
[06:26] <Minataku> stdin: Say, do you know where genii is?
[06:26] <stdin> Minataku: I don't, he's not online atm
[06:26] <Minataku> :o
[06:26] <stdin> hasn't been all day
[06:27] <Minataku> He said he'd be back yesterday and he wasn't
[06:27] <stdin> he was here yesterday
[06:27] <Annirak> I'm trying to capture audio from my line-in port with a script.  I'm using rec (sox package).  When I listen to the audio stream by removing the mute flag from line-in in alsamixer, I hear clean audio.  When I record it with $rec -d /dev/dsp outfile.wav and play it back in kaffeine, it's distorted.  When I force the sample rate to 44.1kHz, it's not as bad, but it's still distorted.
[06:27] <Minataku> stdin: I didn't see him :o
[06:29] <stdin> Minataku: he was here as genii and genii2
[06:29] <stdin> but he left at 11pm GMT
[06:30] <Minataku> stdin: Weird... maybe my brain is busted
[06:30] <Minataku> Wouldn't be the first time
[06:30] <Minataku> XD
[06:30] <stdin> Minataku: he should be here tomorrow, he has the odd day off :p
[06:31] <stdin> Annirak: maybe try asking in #ubuntu or ##linux seeing as it's not really a kubuntu specific issue
[06:33] <Minataku> stdin: Ah
[06:33] <Minataku> stdin: I was a bit worried, lol
[06:33] <stdin> Minataku: maybe he actually has a life outside of linux :p
[06:34] <Minataku> stdin: lol
[06:34] <Minataku> stdin: I know, I know
[06:34] <stdin> not like me :p
[06:34] <Minataku> But he wasn't around when he said he would be and I got a little concerned
[06:34] <Minataku> I'm still young enough to care sometimes
[06:34] <Minataku> XD
[06:34] <stdin> aww :)
[06:35] <Annirak> stdin: point.
[06:35] <Minataku> I'm cynical as all hell but I still have some love
[06:35] <Minataku> XD
[06:35] <stdin> all you need is love, love, love ....
[06:35] <stdin> :p
[06:35] <Minataku> lol
[06:37] <Minataku> Annirak: Perhaps the input signal is too high for the card? That could lead to clipping if precautions aren't taken
[06:38] <Annirak> It does play properly when done directly
[06:38] <Annirak> just not when recorded
[06:43] <Valmarko> I'd like to spend some of my free time by learning programing my computer. I' ve just downloaded to books: Ruby Cook Book ; The Rubu way. Well, I just need the ruby itself and some decent IDE :) Could someone help me ?
[06:44] <Minataku> Hm
[06:44] <Minataku> !ruby
[06:44] <ubotu> ruby: An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.2-1 (edgy), package size 18 kB, installed size 96 kB
[06:44] <Minataku> Oooh, that's nice
[06:44] <Valmarko> tanks :)
[06:44] <Minataku> Valmarko: I'd suggest Python, though
[06:44] <Minataku> It's more prevalent of a scripting language than Ruby
[06:45] <morghanphoenix> !dmi
[06:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dmi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:45] <Minataku> Also for a real language, there's always good old C++
[06:45] <Minataku> Or C
[06:45] <Valmarko> I no nothing about programming. I just want to start from some point, But, why do you suggest python?
[06:45] <Minataku> Valmarko: Personal preference, really, I use a couple programs written in Python and they're great
[06:46] <morghanphoenix> Python is the one I'm trying to learn in what little spare time I have. Lots of stuff I have is written in python and it's supposed to be one of the simpler languages to learn
[06:46] <Minataku> I've never actually used anything written in Ruby, yet, and it seems less prevalent than Python is
[06:46] <stdin> !python
[06:46] <ubotu> python: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.4.3-11ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 37 kB, installed size 208 kB
[06:46] <Dr_willis> different focus :)
[06:46] <Minataku> :3
[06:46] <Valmarko> ummm... Are there any books ?
[06:47] <morghanphoenix> !direct rendering
[06:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about direct rendering - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:47] <stdin> I know of a python ide, but not a ruby one
[06:47] <morghanphoenix> Anyone know the url for the direct rendering help?
[06:47] <stdin> !dri
[06:47] <ubotu> dri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.
[06:47] <Valmarko> Well... tanks :)
[06:47] <stdin> morghanphoenix: what graphics card do you have ?
[06:48] <morghanphoenix> ATi Radeon 7000 128MB
[06:48] <stdin> morghanphoenix: what dose "glxinfo |grep direct" show ?
[06:49] <morghanphoenix> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:49] <morghanphoenix> direct rendering: No
[06:49] <morghanphoenix> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[06:49] <Minataku> Valmarko: No problem
[06:49] <stdin> morghanphoenix: ahh, you need the ati binary driver then
[06:49] <stdin> !ati
[06:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:50] <morghanphoenix> Starts at the Radeon 9000 series in the support list
[06:50] <morghanphoenix> is there a legacy driver
[06:51] <morghanphoenix> 7000 is a pretty new card, it's amazing the ATi driver doesn't support it
[06:51] <Minataku> If all else fails, there's always VESA
[06:52] <morghanphoenix> !vesa
[06:52] <ubotu> vesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x
[06:52] <Minataku> I have to remember that *buntu does things in an easy/automated manner
[06:53] <stdin> morghanphoenix: what dose "lspci |grep VGA" show" ?
[06:53] <Minataku> I'm a Gentoo user who came in here to talk to someone so the thought of not doing it myself confounds me
[06:53] <Minataku> XD
[06:53] <stdin> morghanphoenix: that's "lspci |grep VGA"
[06:53] <morghanphoenix> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE] 
[06:53] <stdin> looks like ATI don't supply a driver for that anymore :(
[06:54] <Minataku> Isn't there a legacy ATI driver that they shove all their way-too-early-EOL'd card drivers to?
[06:54] <Minataku> Or has ATI gotten worse since the last crap I heard about them?
[06:54] <morghanphoenix> Ack, not fair, even dgen is running slow and choppy.
[06:54] <stdin> oldest driver I can find is 8500 series
[06:55] <stdin> hmm, google time :p
[06:55] <Minataku> I hate when they do things like that, as if nobody uses the card anymore when in reality a lot of people still do
[06:55] <morghanphoenix> It's a pretty new card too.
[06:55] <Minataku> EOL/EOS doesn't mean End Of Use
[06:56] <Minataku> Companies that provide no support for older products aren't companies worth doing business with
[06:56] <Minataku> Solely because of the fact that at any time determined by the company you'll end up screwed
[06:57] <morghanphoenix> I didn't buy it at least
[06:57] <Minataku> lol
[06:57] <morghanphoenix> Every part of my computer was free
[06:57] <Minataku> At least I know better than to ever buy ATI
[06:58] <morghanphoenix> Salvaged from peoples junked systems, whatever still works and is better than what I have ends up in my box.
[06:58] <Minataku> Lest my computer become more than 6 months old and they tell me my card is obsolete and that I can copulate with myself
[06:58] <Minataku> Trying to keep the language clean for in here
[06:58] <Minataku> lol
[06:58] <morghanphoenix> Amazing what people trash computers for
[06:59] <Minataku> Indeed
[06:59] <morghanphoenix> Most of my system was trashed because thier copy of windows me crashed
[06:59] <Minataku> "Oh, this is more than 10 days old, bin it"
[06:59] <Minataku> And of course the companies all assume that this is what EVERYONE does
[07:00] <morghanphoenix> I'm going to be buying a new laptop from linux certified soon, it'll be the first new computer I've owned since my 386 in the  mid 90s
[07:00] <Minataku> While in reality most people don't have the money or rather the expertise to change their hardware every time the next thing comes out
[07:01] <morghanphoenix> Is impossible to screw up in windows if the CD that comes with it has good drivers.
[07:01] <morghanphoenix> Just plug & play, then insert the disc for bonus features
[07:02] <flaccid> welcome to capitalism, Minataku
[07:02] <Minataku> Not to mention the total folly of "Intellectual Property" which really does nothing more than cause advancement to grind to a halt and lay festering
[07:02] <morghanphoenix> It would be just as easy in linux if you could actually find the damn drivers
[07:02] <Minataku> flaccid: Don't remind me, capitalism is the same reason we have to fight DRM/TCPA
[07:02] <morghanphoenix> DRM is the reason I'm using linux now
[07:03] <morghanphoenix> Microsoft, Apple and Sony got into a fight over who owned my music and videos, my computer was the loser
[07:03] <Minataku> With any (of their) luck we'll all be forced to use Windows thanks to big business
[07:03] <Minataku> morghanphoenix: That's a good one
[07:04] <morghanphoenix> And of course Microsoft wanted a butt load of money for the disc to the OS I allready owned
[07:04] <Minataku> Of course
[07:04] <morghanphoenix> Mine had been damaged, and even with a valid cd-key they wanted more than an old OS is worth.
[07:05] <Minataku> "License transfer!? THAT'S ILLEGAL WITCHCRAFT!"
[07:06] <morghanphoenix> I think if you've bought the damn OS you should be able to use it. We have an old 333 that has windows XP and it should be transferable to the faster computers, but no, that wouldn't make more money.
[07:07] <Minataku> Of course not, it's locked to the original computer thanks to "Product Activation"
[07:07] <morghanphoenix> As long as you remove it from the old computer there shouldn't be a problem, you still only own one installed copy, but that would constitute good customer service.
[07:07] <Search4Lancer> *gasp!*
[07:07] <Minataku> And -$300
[07:07] <morghanphoenix> Which I've had to do again four times in the last six months for the cd-rom, video card and both sticks of ram.
[07:08] <Minataku> Or whatever they overcharge for Windows
[07:08] <morghanphoenix> $200
[07:08] <morghanphoenix> But since you've allready paid $200, I guess that'd make it $400, so $300 is a good average.
[07:10] <morghanphoenix> Gotta go to Safeway, out of Dr. Pepper, not a good thing when you're short on sleep.
[07:10] <morghanphoenix> Too bad they stopped selling jolt around here.
[07:10] <Minataku> Sorry to sidetrack the channel with all that XD
[07:13] <flaccid> at the end of the day its people and greed that ruin it
[07:13] <flaccid> and as if google has lived up to their slogan
[07:14] <geoffb> human greed
[07:14] <flaccid> thats a double superlative, geoffb
[07:14] <geoffb> lol
[07:14] <flaccid> heh i know someone named geoffb too
[07:15] <geoffb> but you're better now?
[07:15] <flaccid> humans > greed
[07:15] <flaccid> huh
[07:16] <Rob-West> !bittorrent
[07:16] <ubotu> bittorrent: Scatter-gather network file transfer. In component main, is optional. Version 3.4.2-6ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 90 kB, installed size 556 kB
[07:16] <Rob-West> my bittorrent wont work
[07:17] <Rob-West> like 73% through a download and it stops working
[07:17] <Minataku> Rob-West: Are there still seeds/peers?
[07:18] <Rob-West> yea
[07:18] <Minataku> Hm
[07:18] <Rob-West> but it bittorrent freezes
[07:18] <Minataku> Weird
[07:18] <Rob-West> even in gnome
[07:19] <stdin> Rob-West: it may be there aren't any seeders
[07:19] <Rob-West> no theres like 600 seeders
[07:19] <Minataku> stdin: I asked that already, apparantly the app is freezing up on him
[07:20] <Rob-West> like if i have it opened and i open konversation
[07:20] <Rob-West> then try to go back to bittorrent its just a blank gray window
[07:21] <xenophile7x7> does anyone know a good resource to look up CLI-based software for kubuntu?
[07:22] <geoffb> xenophile7x7: is there something in particular that you're looking for?
[07:22] <xenophile7x7> no
[07:22] <xenophile7x7> ive only been using linux a few day,s so im still learning
[07:23] <stdin> Rob-West: maybe try a console torrent application, like rtorrent
[07:23] <xenophile7x7> but i want to focus more on cli than the gui
[07:23] <eve> hi
[07:23] <Rob-West> wont i have to start my download from 0%
[07:23] <xenophile7x7> im not necessarily tryin to find a download site. just a resource to see whats available.
[07:23] <Minataku> No
[07:23] <geoffb> xenophile7x7: I'm not aware of a specific place to search for cli only stuff. I often use freshmeat.net for finding stuff generally
[07:24] <Minataku> It should start from where the other client left off
[07:24] <stdin> Rob-West: probably, but maybe you could copy the partly downloaded files/dirs to where rtorrent saves them, and it may resume (maybe)
[07:24] <xenophile7x7> ok, ill give that a shot. thanks!
[07:24] <geoffb> but I usually approach it from the point of view of solving a specific problem, not browsing
[07:24] <geoffb> u welcome
[07:24] <geoffb> do ask if there's something specific you need a solution to
[07:24] <xenophile7x7> oh i will
[07:24] <Rob-West> where does rtorrent save
[07:25] <geoffb> :-)
[07:25] <xenophile7x7> just checking around to see whats out there atm though
[07:25] <xenophile7x7> kinda compare and contrast, experiminting and such
[07:25] <Rob-West> how do i open a torrent file
[07:26] <stdin> in rtorrent?
[07:26] <Rob-West> yea
[07:26] <geoffb> fair enough... maybe have a look at... .lynx (web browser), wget (web harvester!!!), rtorrent (bittorrent client)... uhm.... /me scratches head...
[07:26] <geoffb> Rob-West: iirc, it will accept the torrent filename as a command line argument
[07:26] <stdin> yep
[07:26] <Rob-West> [Snarf-It.org]  Microsoft_Flight_Simulator_X_Deluxe-Razor1911.torrent
[07:27] <Rob-West> so just put that in
[07:27] <stdin> Rob-West: start it like: rtorrent torrentfile.torrent
[07:27] <geoffb> lol... no, MSFS won't run on linux <grin>...
[07:27] <geoffb> yes, that's right
[07:27] <genben> hi all, been trying to config the jre plugin for FF on kubuntu according to the instructions at plugin.mozdev.org, but it isn't working
[07:28] <Rob-West> i give up
[07:28] <Rob-West> i wish i could FTP it
[07:28] <geoffb> Rob-West: what's the issue? is it still giving you grief?
[07:28] <Rob-West> yes
[07:28] <Rob-West> i should have just stuck to windows
[07:28] <geoffb> so what have you done so far?
[07:29] <stdin> genben: use the packages in multiverse
[07:29] <geoffb> don't stress dude, it can all be sorted :-)
[07:29] <genben> k, what is the correct package name
[07:29] <Rob-West> well before bittorrent stopped wanting to work my file got to 72%
[07:29] <geoffb> oh, ok, and now you're trying a different torrent client....
[07:29] <geoffb> gotcha
[07:29] <Rob-West> then i lost power and then bittorrent started acting up
[07:29] <stdin> genben: sun-java5-plugin
[07:30] <geoffb> and rtorrent? not working?
[07:30] <Rob-West> it wont open the torrent file
[07:30] <genben> stdin: ta
[07:30] <geoffb> on the command line, you're typing "rtorrent <torrent file name>"?
[07:30] <Rob-West> yes
[07:30] <genben> so pretty much anyhting i want to do, just follow the various ubuntu methods?
[07:31] <stdin> genben: you have multivers enabled tho?
[07:31] <genben> i do
[07:31] <geoffb> and it says....?
[07:31] <Rob-West> ill try Kget
[07:31] <stdin> genben: there is normally an ubuntu way, look at this page for others: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[07:32] <genben> stdin: thanks
[07:32] <stdin> no problem :)
[07:33] <geoffb> Rob-West: when switching to another torrent client, if it starts again at 0%, then look for ways to make it find the stuff you've already downloaded. Sometimes they will have different defautl destination dirs, and you might need to re-arrange the settings to make it play nice with what you've already retrieved.
[07:34] <Rob-West> ill try FrostWire
[07:35] <geoffb> uh, is that a torrent client, or gnutella?
[07:35] <geoffb> no, wait, "now with bittorrent support", it's all good
[07:35] <Rob-West> how to i make it see my other files
[07:35] <Rob-West> cuz imma be pissed if i gotta start over
[07:36] <geoffb> Rob-West: look for preferences/settings regarding where it saves / looks for downloads by default.
[07:36] <geoffb> [17:33]  <geoffb> Rob-West: when switching to another torrent client, if it starts again at 0%, then look for ways to make it find the stuff you've already downloaded. Sometimes they will have different defautl destination dirs, and you might need to re-arrange the settings to make it play nice with what you've already retrieved.
[07:37] <Rob-West> ok
[07:37] <Rob-West> it took me 3 days to get this far
[07:38] <Rob-West> to move files to a different folder its going at 12MB a second
[07:38] <Rob-West> i want this speed for downloads
[07:38] <geoffb> Rob-West: do you have plenty of free disk space?
[07:38] <Rob-West> yea
[07:39] <Rob-West> 140 gigs total
[07:39] <Rob-West> 119GB free
[07:40] <moj0rising> Hi. Does anyone know if Ican install compiz via apt-get on Feisty?
[07:41] <stdin> moj0rising: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingCompiz
[07:41] <stdin> tho beryl may be easier to install
[07:41] <StingRay> Hi, stdin. :)
[07:42] <stdin> hey, StingRay :)
[07:42] <moj0rising> really? OK I'll take a look onw.
[07:42] <moj0rising> now
[07:42] <Rob-West> geoffb
[07:42] <moj0rising> easiest is best. I just want to try it out.
[07:42] <Rob-West> this better work
[07:42] <stdin> StingRay: what mad security problem do you want to solve today? :p
[07:42] <moj0rising> thanks, stdin
[07:43] <StingRay> :D, stdin
[07:43] <stdin> moj0rising: for beryl https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingCompiz
[07:43] <stdin> moj0rising: for beryl https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingBeryl
[07:43] <stdin> wrong link :p
[07:43] <StingRay> enough for today...Yesterday I went to bed too late :O
[07:43] <stdin> heh, I know the feeling
[07:43] <StingRay> I managed to resolve my problem, but terminal session to 127.0.0.1:1001 and FreeNX
[07:44] <moj0rising> thanks again!
[07:44] <stdin> np :)
[07:44] <StingRay> stdin, the problem is that this situation is repeating for last 5 month too often
[07:45] <fignew> lol Rob, I have those download speeds :P
[07:45] <StingRay> :), however I will manage. I am just too new and have to read too much
[07:45] <stdin> StingRay: have you thought about using ssh instead of vnc?
[07:45] <StingRay> X11 forward?
[07:45] <stdin> yep
[07:45] <StingRay> stdin, I am running away from ssh and other users than me :D
[07:46] <Rob-West> geoffb thanks man
[07:46] <stdin> StingRay: ssh is the same as a user just logging in
[07:46] <Rob-West> this OWNS
[07:46] <StingRay> stdin, I made an autologin, so the user doesn't know his password
[07:46] <stdin> heh :p
[07:46] <geoffb> you're welcome Rob-West
[07:46] <vulcanius> anyone know how to get aptitude to show full version info (most recent/installed/etc) from the CLI?
[07:47] <vulcanius> also how to get it to show it by default
[07:47] <Rob-West> frostwire works better
[07:47] <stdin> vulcanius: use apt-cache policy PackageName
[07:47] <StingRay> stdin, kiosktool is a very good too indeed. I also locked gnome sessions in a very simple (maybe unprofessional way). I just locked .gnome* in the homedir :)
[07:47] <Rob-West> i moved the files to where frostwire save loaded the torrent and it said for the statys: RESUMING
[07:48] <vulcanius> thanks stdin
[07:48] <stdin> np
[07:48] <geoffb> Rob-West: then it will spend a while checking what you've got already and what it needs to get, then it will go off and get the rest of the download
[07:48] <stdin> StingRay: you really don't trust your users
[07:49] <StingRay> stdin, I caught them lying...
[07:49] <StingRay> then I put some kloggers and rdesktop...:D in fact I put Remote Administrator 2.2
[07:50] <stdin> StingRay: I suppose it's a good way to secure a public computer
[07:50] <StingRay> stdin, I could not get vnc properly working on :0.0
[07:53] <Search4Lancer> aarrgh I've finally got the display fixed but now my middle mouse button doesn't work!
[07:56] <Rob-West> geoffb its doing it now
[07:57] <geoffb> cool
[07:57] <geoffb> Search4Lancer: you've been tinkering around in xorg.conf? :-)
[07:58] <Jiong> ?
[07:58] <Search4Lancer> yes... my resolution got boned when my laptop shut off.... how I don't know...
[07:58] <Search4Lancer> but I've got the resolution fixed now
[07:58] <Search4Lancer> and the scroll area on my touchpad is even working now, too
[07:58] <Search4Lancer> but my middle mouse button no worky
[08:05] <jordo23> ANyone here run a 64 bit distro?
[08:05] <Rob-West> sup Jucato
[08:06] <Jucato> hi Rob-West
[08:06] <jordo23> Hey Jucato...
[08:06] <geoffb> Search4Lancer: what does the "Mouse" section in your xorg.conf look like (uh... someone know how to work pastebin?)
[08:06] <Rob-West> ok y did frostwire like scan the torrent then start ad 0
[08:06] <Jucato> hi
[08:06] <Rob-West> at*
[08:07] <geoffb> Rob-West: when a torrent client starts work on a new download, it pre-allocates all the space it needs in files of the same name as those it's downloading
[08:07] <stdin> !pastebin
[08:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:07] <geoffb> then it just fills them in with the real thing bit-by-bit as they come down
[08:07] <Rob-West> well it got to 35% in scanning then started at 0%
[08:07] <geoffb> the files look like the real thing, but you can't tell what you have, what you haven't without working through and checking them chunk-by-chunk
[08:07] <geoffb> that's what it's doing
[08:08] <geoffb> grrrr, I don't like that
[08:08] <geoffb> stdin: thanks
[08:08] <stdin> :)
[08:08] <geoffb> Rob-West: did you copy or move the files into the new location?
[08:09] <Rob-West> yes
[08:09] <geoffb> which?
[08:09] <Rob-West> to my frostwire download location
[08:09] <geoffb> did you move, or copy?
[08:09] <Rob-West> move
[08:09] <geoffb> bummer!
[08:10] <Rob-West> y
[08:10] <geoffb> tis business of transferring a torrent from one client to another can be tricky...
[08:10] <rga> hello all
[08:10] <geoffb> ok, dig around in the destination dir, see if it's created a second set of files, or if there's only the one set
[08:10] <geoffb> hey rga
[08:10] <stdin> hmm, anyone have a tip on how to use less or cat on a file starting with a - ?
[08:10] <rga> hi geoff
[08:11] <geoffb> rga: escape the '-' with a backslash...
[08:11] <stdin> I've tried quoting in " and ' and even \-
[08:11] <Rob-West> theres just 1 set
[08:11] <geoffb> s/rga/stdin/
[08:11] <rga> needing help
[08:12] <rga> any idea regarding asterisk
[08:12] <geoffb> sorry stdin, I'd have said use the backslash....
[08:12] <stdin> geoffb: don't work, cat: invalid option -- R (file name is -Reff- )
[08:12] <geoffb> ah, ok, its interpreting it as a command line option
[08:12] <geoffb> there's a way to say "no more command line options, this next thing is a filename".... now...
[08:12] <stdin> geoffb: I've tried 'cat \-Reff\- ' but no good
[08:12] <geoffb> I wonder what it is...!
[08:13] <rga> any1 with asterisk knowledge.....?
[08:13] <stdin> geoffb: ahh, you reminded me of it, it's 'cat -- -Reff-' :D thanks
[08:13] <geoffb> stdin: try "more -- -Reff"
[08:13] <geoffb> snap!
[08:13] <Jucato> stdin: how about cat "-Reff-"?
[08:14] <stdin> Jucato: tried that, didn't work, even tried cat '-Reff-'
[08:14] <Jucato> ah... :(
[08:14] <stdin> Jucato: but got it now, so it works :)
[08:14] <geoffb> Jucato: because the filename begins with something that looks like a command line option, it's getting foncused. Using the '--' (dash-dash) signals to the shell "end of options", and that the next thing is a filename
[08:14] <stdin> Jucato: nees 'cat -- -Reff-'
[08:15] <stdin> s/nees/needs/
[08:15] <geoffb> rga: I know a ~little~ bit about asterisk... try me....
[08:15] <Jucato> aah good to now..
[08:15] <geoffb> fine, don't then...!
[08:15] <geoffb> :-)
[08:15] <Rob-West> this sucks
[08:15] <Rob-West> now my torrent is going slow
[08:16] <Rob-West> ill fight with bitttorrent
[08:16] <Rob-West> brb
[08:16] <moj0rising> OK. I tried to install beryl on Feisty. It is not in the repositories like the docs say. Weird.
[08:17] <moj0rising> I tried adding some repros sound in some other areas but they don't support feisty.
[08:17] <geoffb> Search4Lancer: how you doing with your mouse thing?
[08:17] <Rob-West> ill try bittorrent
[08:17] <stdin> moj0rising: there isn't a reop for feisty, just use the edgy ones, they work fine
[08:18] <stdin> moj0rising: add "deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main" to your sources.list
[08:18] <stdin> moj0rising: it has beryl version 0.1.4 :)
[08:19] <moj0rising> Cool. That shouldn't hirt anything?
[08:19] <moj0rising> hurt, I mean.
[08:19] <stdin> moj0rising: I'm running feisty with beryl, works here :)
[08:19] <moj0rising> awesome. I'm so excited!
[08:20] <stdin> as you should be :p
[08:20] <Rob-West> it sayd bittorrent is unknown
[08:27] <Rob-West> bittorrent wont load now
[08:37] <Rob-West> rebooting doesnt fix my issue
[08:51] <makuseru> !aiglx
[08:51] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[09:00] <jordo23> Jucato:  How do you configure buffering through Kaffeine.....I am trying to play a video stream and it buffers the first 15 seconds, stops, then buffers the next 15 seconds, stops, etc.
[09:00] <Jucato> jordo23: sorry, I don't know
[09:11] <thedudewhodoesth> .::Torrart Radio::. tune in @ http://69.89.27.207:8000/
[09:13] <Jucato> thedudewhodoesth: what's that supposed to be?
[09:35] <zeekstarr> how do I do transparent menus?
[09:52] <Hikaru79> Hi, anyone here>
[09:52] <Hikaru79> *?
[09:53] <makuseru> i am
[10:30] <jtmoney> hey guys, i'm on a notebook... how do i configure power options, that is, different power profiles (plugged in, on battery, etc.) and things like when i shut the lid it suspends to ram?
[10:49] <aldin> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/avahi/libavahi-common3_0.6.13-2ubuntu2.3_i386.deb  404 Not Found
[10:49] <aldin> will it work later
[10:49] <Tm_T> aldin: Do apt-get update
[10:49] <aldin> i did update than sudo apt-get -d upgrade
[10:50] <dennis_> i can use my usb mouse + keyboard only after plugging the usb device out and in. can anyone help me solving this problem?
[10:50] <aldin> all went well but few of them wont
[10:50] <Tm_T> aldin: Yup, try again.
[10:50] <aldin> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/avahi/libavahi-common-data_0.6.13-2ubuntu2.3_i386.deb  404 Not Found
[10:50] <aldin> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/avahi/libavahi-common3_0.6.13-2ubuntu2.3_i386.deb  404 Not Found
[10:50] <aldin> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/avahi/libavahi-client3_0.6.13-2ubuntu2.3_i386.deb  404 Not Found
[10:50] <aldin> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/avahi/libavahi-glib1_0.6.13-2ubuntu2.3_i386.deb  404 Not Found
[10:50] <aldin> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/avahi/libavahi-core4_0.6.13-2ubuntu2.3_i386.deb  404 Not Found
[10:50] <Tm_T> !paste
[10:50] <ubotu> paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[10:50] <aldin> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/avahi/avahi-daemon_0.6.13-2ubuntu2.3_i386.deb  404 Not Found
[10:50] <aldin> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/avahi/libavahi-compat-libdnssd1_0.6.13-2ubuntu2.3_i386.deb  404 Not Found
[10:50] <aldin> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/avahi/libavahi-qt3-1_0.6.13-2ubuntu2.3_i386.deb  404 Not Found
[10:50] <aldin> sorz
[10:50] <aldin> sory
[10:50] <aldin> but only those wont
[10:51] <Tm_T> No prob.
[10:51] <aldin> i know i apologized
[10:51] <aldin> sorry again
[10:51] <aldin> where is tilda on us keyb
[10:51] <aldin> ~
[10:51] <Tm_T> Those got upgraded lately, I recommend to keep trying with update & upgrade
[10:51] <aldin> ?
[10:51] <Tm_T> aldin: Sorry can't remember, haven't been using US keyb for ages.
[10:52] <aldin> ok, i am bosnian
[10:52] <Tm_T> Heh, I'm finnish.
[10:53] <Tm_T> aldin: I think with google you'll find images of us layout.
[10:53] <aldin> Tm_T: ok, have some probs with ba kbd with beryl..., saw something xmodmap
[10:53] <aldin> ba -> bosnian
[10:54] <Tm_T> I don't touch beryl, I have enough unstable apps already. ;)
[10:54] <aldin> Tm_T: ok
[10:54] <aldin> gotta go see ya
[10:54] <ramanuj> i had installed ubuntu 6.06 on my laptop
[10:54] <Tm_T> Bye.
[10:55] <ramanuj> i have nvidia display but it is showing vesa card
[10:55] <Tm_T> !nvidia
[10:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:55] <ramanuj> when i installed nvidia driver then some lines are coming on display
[10:55] <Tm_T> ramanuj: Check if that helps.
[10:55] <ramanuj> i saw all mam
[10:55] <ramanuj> man
[10:55] <Tm_T> Ok.
[10:55] <ramanuj> but it the lines are coming
[10:56] <ramanuj> previously i was using mandriva 2007
[10:56] <ramanuj> there x server was automaticaly taking video driver as nvidia
[10:56] <ramanuj> any one can help plz
[10:56] <Tm_T> ramanuj: One thing..
[10:56] <ramanuj> yea
[10:57] <Tm_T> grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:59] <ramanuj> i should paste the out put here ?
[10:59] <Tm_T> ramanuj: if multiple lines, use pastebin
[11:00] <Tm_T> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:00] <Tm_T> Anyway, I have to go, good luck with it. ->
[11:00] <ramanuj> ok thak alot
[11:02] <ramanuj> pasted
[11:02] <filip_> how do i do the command gksudo in kubuntu?
[11:03] <thoreauputic> filip_: try kdesu instead
[11:04] <lupine_85> filip_: what's wrong with kdesu ?
[11:05] <filip_> kdesu worked..
[11:05] <filip_> but now i cant use "gedit"
[11:05] <lupine_85> then use kate instead of gedit?
[11:05] <filip_> how do i do that command in kde?
[11:05] <filip_> ok
[11:09] <filip_> shit... the linux dc++ i got from ubuntuforum wiki doesnt work...
[11:10] <filip_> does anyone know were i can get a working version of a dc++ clone?
[11:18] <jtmoney^> hey guys, i'm on a notebook... how do i configure power options, that is, different power profiles (plugged in, on battery, etc.) and things like when i shut the lid it suspends to ram?
[11:24] <casted> Hi, what package do i need for kdialog?
[11:26] <lupine_85> packages.ubuntu.com will tell you :)
[11:27] <Jucato> casted: no need to install kdebase, afaik. can't you run kdialog from the command line?
[11:27] <VSpike> I hate Linux sound systems right now :/
[11:28] <casted> Well, fixing this for someone else. I think he is using ubuntu, but kdialog is not installed (i asked him too run from the console)
[11:28] <Jucato> casted: yeah, it won't be available since he's using GNOME
[11:29] <casted> He is using amarok though. Does amarok depend on kdebase?
[11:30] <Jucato> kdelibs, but not kdebase, afaik
[11:30] <casted> kk, thanks
[11:33] <chuen> Hi, can anyone give me a heads up on setting up my printer? I'm using the guie, but am getting  an error msg saying that either the driver(s) don't exist or I don't have perimission to use them.  Are the installed with the original install?
[11:43] <Balsamic_Chicken>  I only participte 4 GI space for the Ubantu, and now it's complaining don't have enough space, only 156 Mb left, what should I do??
[11:49] <nuscly> Balsamic_Chicken: remove not needed packages, like games
[11:56] <Balsamic_Chicken> nscly thx
[11:57] <animimotus> hi
[11:57] <animimotus> in my Kubuntu I can't drop files on a virgin DVD-RW. How can active UDF drag and burn, please ?
[11:58] <animimotus> like on a floppy disk
[11:58] <Jucato> animimotus: you know my answer :)
[11:58] <nuscly> animimotus: use K3b
[12:00] <animimotus> Jucato: oh, a translation problem :p
[12:00] <animimotus> sorry
[12:00] <filip_> is there anything like bulletproof ftp for kubuntu?
[12:01] <dwidmann> kbear, kasablanca, kftpgrabber?
[12:02] <Jucato> konqueror?
[12:03] <filip_> how do i use konqueror like that?
[12:03] <Jucato> ftp://url
[12:04] <filip_> but what i want to do is to share my own files
[12:04] <Jucato> hm...
[12:09] <rysiek|pl> hi all
[12:09] <rysiek|pl> guys, got a problem here (asked on #ubuntu already, no answer though) - suddenly there are 300+ directories on my / (ext3), which are shown by ls -l  as: ?--------- ?  ?    ?     ?       ? name
[12:10] <rysiek|pl> wtf?!
[12:13] <adaptr> rysiek|pl: fsck
[12:14] <rysiek|pl> adaptr: done already, "filesystem clean" O_o'
[12:14] <adaptr> rysiek|pl: then something ran which created those directories
[12:17] <adaptr> rysiek|pl: arte you sure it is mounted as ext3 and not ext2 ?
[12:17] <rysiek|pl> adaptr: these are dirs lik /usr/share/perl5
[12:17] <rysiek|pl> hmm
[12:17] <rysiek|pl> yeah, I am pretty sure
[12:17] <rysiek|pl> yep, mtab says it's ext3
[12:17] <adaptr> rysiek|pl: that's completely different from what you posted before - please be as literal as you can be when reporting errors
[12:17] <rysiek|pl> where's the difference?
[12:17] <adaptr> rysiek|pl: amd there is no way you could *see* /usr/share/perl5 as a root directory
[12:17] <adaptr> rysiek|pl: and it's a link, anyway - just delete it
[12:17] <rysiek|pl> adaptr: I said they're *on* my root partition
[12:17] <adaptr> rysiek|pl: so how do you know they're not supposed ot be there ?
[12:17] <rysiek|pl> adaptr: man. /usr/share/perl, usr/share/perl5 - those *used to be* directories.
[12:17] <rysiek|pl> adaptr: they *are* supposed to be there. but *not* as ?----- ? ?...
[12:17] <filip_> how do i login as root to run a program that demands that
[12:17] <filip_> ?
[12:17] <rysiek|pl> filip_: sudo program
[12:18] <filip_> thers no graphic ways?
[12:18] <adaptr> rysiek|pl: did you run badblocks on the root partition ?
[12:18] <rysiek|pl> adaptr: besides, some programs can't find they're files (like... debconf, dpkg, aptitude, etc.), and guess where those files should be? yep, in those dirs
[12:18] <rysiek|pl> adaptr: no, I did not
[12:18] <rysiek|pl> adaptr: I'll do it now
[12:18] <adaptr> well, that woul dbe step one
[12:18] <rysiek|pl> adaptr: thanks, on it
[12:18] <adaptr> you'll need to do it read-only, of course
[12:19] <rysiek|pl> yeah, I'll probably just run kubuntu live
[12:20] <rysiek|pl> well, there goes five days of setting my laptop up...
[12:22] <Jucato> filip_: "kdesu <program>" if <program> is a graphical app
[12:22] <rysiek|pl> filip_: kdesu program :)
[12:23] <animimotus> grep burning /etc/group <------- does return anything. It's normal ? When I burn a DVD the files belongs to root:root
[12:23] <a_> how i can run (install) jdk  java devlopment kit on ubuntu
[12:23] <animimotus> so I must add my users?
[12:23] <adaptr> !jdk | a_
[12:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jdk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:23] <adaptr> pfffrt.. silly bot
[12:24] <a_> java devolpment kit
[12:24] <a_> i have bin file and want to run it
[12:24] <animimotus> adaptr: silly command :p
[12:25] <adaptr> animimotus: oh no sirra, it was well-conceived and immaculately executed!
[12:26] <adaptr> a_: make the file executable and run it
[12:26] <adaptr> a_: you'll have to do this as root, most likely
[12:26] <a_> how to make it executable?
[12:27] <rysiek|pl> chmod +x filename
[12:27] <adaptr> a_: if you want complete, 100% hand-holding (you sissy!): chmod a+x filename && sudo ./filename
[12:27] <a_> sorry not get what u said
[12:28] <a_> can tell me step by step
[12:31] <rysiek|pl> a_: open konsole and type in: cd /the/dir/with/the/binfile; chmod a+x the_name_of_the_bin_file; sudo ./the_name_of_the_bin_file
[12:32] <a_> ok wait plz
[12:32] <rysiek|pl> nop
[12:32] <daumantas> hi anybody who loves kubuntu ;>
[12:33] <larson9999> nope. we all hate kubuntu
[12:35] <daumantas> hehe
[12:35] <daumantas> bullshit ;>
[12:36] <disposable> when booting, i get 'Attempting manual resume' and 'attempt to access beyond end of device'. then the kernel panics. how do i make it NOT to resume from hibernation but to boot normally?
[12:36] <animimotus> grep burning /etc/group <------- does it return somethings ?
[12:37] <mots> are there any packages for kdevelop 3.4?
[12:39] <a_> rysiekjlp  it is give me install.sfx.4404 file in same directory
[12:39] <rysiek|pl> ?
[12:40] <DeMolay> animimotus: not in my PC
[12:40] <rysiek|pl> mots: apti-cache search kdevelop :)
[12:40] <a_> i get file in same dirctory called install.sfx.44404
[12:41] <mots> rysiek|pl: theres only 3.3 here
[12:41] <animimotus> DeMolay: ok. Because the files I burned belongs to root:root instead to my user. I search the problem
[12:41] <rysiek|pl> mots: in that case no, I suppose
[12:41] <rysiek|pl> a_: I have completely *no* knowledge on java
[12:42] <a_> how to insta java run time
[12:42] <rysiek|pl> a_: I just told you what the other's told you to do in a more clear way
[12:42] <rysiek|pl> a_: search on help.ubuntu.com
[12:42] <a_> u can go to www.java.com and download manully the java runtime
[01:04] <danielches> hi
[01:04] <danielches> how to i get kaffine to play wmv files?
[01:05] <Jucato> danielches: you need to install w32codecs
[01:05] <danielches> ok
[01:05] <Jucato> !w32codecs | danielches
[01:05] <ubotu> danielches: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:05] <danielches> thx
[01:07] <danielches> what program can easily convert them to ogg format?
[01:07] <Jucato> that I don't know...
[01:10] <danielches> ok
[01:10] <a_> what is su? do su is command line?
[01:11] <Jucato> !su
[01:12] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:12] <a_> thank u
[01:13] <a_> bu when type su ask me about password when write it tell me not authorization
[01:13] <Jucato> a_: don't use su. use sudo.
[01:14] <a_> ok
[01:14] <a_> http://java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#selfextracting
[01:15] <a_> this site tell me how to install java run time
[01:15] <Jucato> !java | a
[01:15] <ubotu> a: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[01:15] <Jucato> a_: you can install java from the repositories ^^^^
[01:38] <vluid> hello
[01:38] <vluid> hello?
[01:38] <manom> hi!
[01:38] <vluid> need some help.. ... ..
[01:39] <manom> well...i'll try my best...
[01:39] <vluid> thanks, it is about kopete
[01:39] <manom> shoot!
[01:39] <vluid> i like it very much, but it doest really support irc, or am i wrong?
[01:40] <manom> uf, I don't think so (not sure)
[01:40] <manom> have you tried konversation?
[01:40] <vluid> i am using gaim now, but with gaim i got encoding problems
[01:41] <vluid> konversation?
[01:41] <vluid> have to check
[01:41] <manom> hey!
[01:41] <manom> konversation is the KDE irc program BUT kopete seems to allow irc
[01:41] <Jucato> Kopete can be used for IRC. but it's IRC features are very poor compared to real IRC programs
[01:42] <vluid> ok, konversation is only for irc. im also using icq et jabber.
[01:42] <Jucato> icq, jabber, yahoo, msn, g-talk = IM (Instant Messaging)
[01:42] <vluid> ill stick with gaim, but i got these weird encoding problems
[01:43] <Jucato> like I said, Kopete can do IRC too
[01:43] <vluid> i mean, i _would_ stick
[01:45] <vluid> thanks, ill try kopete again
[01:45] <manom> see you!
[01:45] <vluid> ok
[01:48] <animimotus> please, where can I find the last burn log?
[01:49] <animimotus> the DVD burn was good but the verification has failed
[01:51] <vluid> im back again!
[01:51] <vluid> with kopete i cannot connect to any irc server
[01:53] <manom> ??? ill try myself
[01:53] <vluid> thanks, perhaps im too clumsy
[01:54] <manom> what problems did you had
[01:56] <vluid> i added a new irc-account and then i added a server irc.ubuntu.com (default for gaim), then i tried to connect. i chose #kubuntu as channel. it tried to connect for 3-4 min then i broke up.
[01:56] <vluid> had same problem before
[01:56] <manom> :|
[01:57] <vluid> ok, i gave kopete a try, because i had these encoding problems with gaim.
[01:59] <manom> hi vluid
[02:00] <bronze> Good morning.  What file do I have to modify to allow root logins on the main X-windows login?  (20+years *NIX user, Yes. i know the risks :-)
[02:00] <menom> hi
[02:00] <menom> vluid: i'm now from kopete
[02:01] <Jucato> !sudo | bronze
[02:01] <ubotu> bronze: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:01] <Jucato> bronze: that page has instructions
[02:02] <menom> vluid: :) i followed your instructions and everything worked
[02:03] <vluid> strange --..--
[02:03] <manom> what version of kopete do you have?
[02:03] <vluid> 0.12.3
[02:03] <vluid> standard ubuntu
[02:03] <manom> i've got the same
[02:03] <vluid> ill try again
[02:03] <manom> ok
[02:04] <manom> i'm sorry but i have no clues
[02:04] <tristano> hello, i want to connect a pc with kubuntu and a pc with windows trhough samba. pcs see them (pinging), but in both machines that don't see the network. someone can help me?
[02:05] <tristano> (i'm sorry for my poor english)
[02:07] <manom> tristano: first you have to install samba-server package
[02:07] <manom> tristano: then go to kcontrol and configure it.
[02:09] <vluid> @ manom: it worked now. perhaps i misspelled something.
[02:09] <vluid> thanks
[02:10] <manom> fine!!!
[02:10] <manom> see you!
[02:11] <tristano> manom, i'm a stupid... i've installed smb4k but not samba :S
[02:11] <powerfox> Hi. I have got some problems with vpn connection via pptp-linux (pon). May somebody help me?
[02:11] <manom> i had similar problems xD.
[02:12] <manom> ok
[02:12] <manom> bye bye guys and girls
[02:12] <manom> !!
[02:12] <dmial> sorry for my english :-) hello, had anybody install tv-tuner Beholder 409FM on Kubuntu 6.10?
[02:13] <dmial> it works, but there are rather bad signal translation, then in windows
[02:14] <dmial> my tuner based on saa7135, and I use modprobe saa7136 tuner=67 card =63 in /etc/modules
[02:14] <dmial> & so I use cable TV in PAl-format
[02:14] <piotrek> kubuntu is little unefficient why?
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[02:16] <Jucato> ??
[02:20] <tristano> manom, now?
[02:25] <pboban> hi. anyone knows which package contains su-to-root? i installed kvpnc but cant start it without this :(
[02:26] <bronze> sudo su -
[02:27] <bronze> or is that not what you need? (it gets you to  root in a shell)
[02:28] <MetaMorfoziS> hola! If somebody have 3minutes for me, to try something in firefox, please highlight me
[02:28] <MetaMorfoziS> not 3, 1.5;)
[02:29] <gnomefreak> MetaMorfoziS: what version of ff?
[02:30] <MetaMorfoziS> 2.0*
[02:30] <MetaMorfoziS> please, try out this: open ff, save a file, and open the download manager (the built in)
[02:30] <MetaMorfoziS> and click on "open"
[02:30] <MetaMorfoziS> the open  link, to that file that you have downloaded
[02:30] <MetaMorfoziS> is that work for you?
[02:30] <MetaMorfoziS> (is it opens the file?
[02:31] <MetaMorfoziS> )
[02:31] <gnomefreak> MetaMorfoziS: it does for me but im not on 2.0 :(
[02:31] <MetaMorfoziS> hm, have you an idea, aboutwhy not working for me? (on both machines that i have use)
[02:31] <MetaMorfoziS> in strace
[02:31] <gnomefreak> MetaMorfoziS: someone else had same issue i asked them to open a bug report but i dont know if he ever did
[02:31] <MetaMorfoziS> it says permission denied
[02:31] <MetaMorfoziS> but why?
[02:32] <MetaMorfoziS> hmm, wherE?
[02:32] <gnomefreak> MetaMorfoziS: your on edgy?
[02:32] <MetaMorfoziS> yes
[02:32] <gnomefreak> MetaMorfoziS: launchpad.net
[02:32] <MetaMorfoziS> kubuntu edgy and firefox 2.0*
[02:32] <gnomefreak> not sure why you are getting permissions denied unless one of the folders is restricted permissions
[02:33] <MetaMorfoziS> no, because if i save a fiel to my desktop
[02:33] <MetaMorfoziS> why that is denied for firefox?
[02:33] <MetaMorfoziS> and, i can open files from desktop (and i can save)
[02:33] <tristano> i'm trying to connect 2 pcs, one with windows, the other with kubuntu, through samba. now windows sees the kubuntu host, but isn't possible to see shared folders, i have an error that says: user could not have authorizations to use network resorce
[02:34] <moon-xsp> have somebody in china
[02:34] <MetaMorfoziS> launchpad search fields are big crap
[02:34] <MetaMorfoziS> i get results from all other apps but not firefox.
[02:34] <MetaMorfoziS> braghumprotflmao!
[02:47] <zombiedog> i love monkeys
[02:47] <zombiedog> who loves monkeys
[02:47] <Dasnipa`> me too
[02:47] <zombiedog> heheh
[02:47] <zombiedog> realy
[02:47] <zombiedog> u llike dogs too
[02:47] <zombiedog> ?
[02:47] <Dasnipa`> only the ones that fling poo
[02:47] <zombiedog> lol
[02:47] <zombiedog> me too
[02:48] <zombiedog> who is in uses runescape
[02:48] <Jucato> !offtopic
[02:48] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[02:48] <zombiedog> who in here uses rs
[02:48] <MetaMorfoziS> ;)
[02:48] <Dasnipa`> stupid kiddie zombie
[02:50] <eMaX_> hi all
[02:51] <eMaX_> I have a problem with firefox on kubuntu: whenever I open a page that contains a java applet, ff sementation faults if run as non-root
[02:51] <eMaX_> strace on ff shows that shortly before the crash he reads ~/.java/deployment/deployment.properties which has about the same content (except timestamps) as for root
[02:52] <eMaX_> AMAOF he cleanly removes his lock file before crashing
[02:53] <eilker> !es
[02:53] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:57] <Prabhu-> hi, can i configure NAT server on if i have a single n/w card on the m/c? and if that pc is using is a gateway to connect to net?
[02:58] <Prabhu-> any help?
[02:58] <JOSF> I never use a playlist. I prefer direct double-click on entries in my media-library. Is there a way to realize this with AmaroK ? Currently, when double-clicking an entry it gets added to the playlist but not played immediatly.
[02:58] <JOSF> Or, alternativley, is there any good audio player for KDE besides Noatun,Amarok,Juk ?
[02:58] <JOSF> I dislike all of them.
[03:10] <beels15> kubuntu.de
[03:10] <beels15> hallo
[03:10] <Prabhu-> any help in configuring a NAT/Proxy using a single NIC on a ubuntu box?
[03:10] <beels15> www.kubuntu.de
[03:10] <beels15> kubuntu.de
[03:11] <beels15> in deutsch
[03:11] <Jucato> !de
[03:11] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:14] <JuJuBee> Where do I turn off focus stealing prevention?
[03:15] <JuJuBee> Found it. never mind.
[03:15] <tristano> i'm trying to connect 2 pcs, one with windows, the other with kubuntu, through samba. now windows sees the kubuntu host, but isn't possible to see shared folders, i have an error that says: user could not have authorizations to use network resource
[03:15] <JOSF> JuJuBee: where was it ?
[03:15] <JuJuBee> thanks
[03:16] <JuJuBee> Under window behavior...Control Center
[03:16] <JOSF> tristano: If you do not need Samba you could try with Avahi and Zeroconf and ftp (it's more easy)
[03:16] <JOSF> JuJuBee: thanks
[03:16] <Jucato> you can also set it in the Window Menu (Alt+F3 or right-click on the title bar) -> Advanced -> Special Window Settings...
[03:17] <JuJuBee> Control Center -> Desktop -> Window Behavior -> Advanced Tab...
[03:18] <tristano> josf, i don't know avahi and zeroconf
[03:20] <JOSF> tristano: It is intended for automatic (zero) configuration of a network. If you just want to xfer files between two machines, then you could use it.l
[03:20] <JOSF> For the Windows side you need Apples Bonjour package
[03:21] <JOSF> check it out on wikipedia
[03:21] <JOSF> they have more links. It is integrated with KDE
[03:21] <JOSF> Check the Network settings for KDE
[03:23] <tristano> JOSF: and for share internet connection on a lan with a linux server?
[03:24] <eMaX_> anyone here ever had problems w/ the java plugin for firefox?
[03:24] <JOSF> It's all available under avahi and zeroconf. Two demons you install on the Linux side. But if you already have configured DHCP or have static IPs, then why don't *just* use an FTP server on the Linux side ?
[03:25] <JOSF> However, with AVAHI and Zeroconf you get Printer sharing too
[03:25] <JOSF> check it out on Google. It's a five minute setup
[03:25] <tristano> JOSF: ok, thanks
[03:28] <wilman> hey i want to get my audacity going
[03:29] <wilman> it does playback
[03:29] <wilman> but i  can't seem to record
[03:37] <tristano> JOSF: i don't find nothing on google on homto configuring with zeroconf and avahi!
[03:37] <JOSF> tristano: wait a moment
[03:37] <tristano> JOSF: thanks
[03:38] <JOSF> tristano: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=218630
[03:39] <tristano> ok
[03:40] <wilman> ubotu: record
[03:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about record - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:41] <wilman> ubotu: recording
[03:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about recording - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <Jucato> !ubotu
[03:42] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:47] <compilerwriter1> Has anyone successfully gotten a mud up and running on kubuntu?
[03:49] <Tido> a mud?
[03:49] <compilerwriter1> yes a multiuser dungeon.
[03:49] <compilerwriter1> I know I am dating myself here.
[03:49] <Jucato> MUD = Multi User Dungeon
[03:49] <amedeo> qualuno italiano
[03:49] <Tido> haven't seen one of those since I was a little kid :o
[03:50] <Jucato> !it | amedeo
[03:50] <ubotu> amedeo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:50] <amedeo> chi mi aiuta in italiano?
[03:50] <Tido> I can't say I've done it, but I remember looking at a mud package a long time ago and it being very well documented
[03:50] <gnomefreak> !it
[03:50] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:51] <compilerwriter1> Tido a friend of mine has just gotten himself access to a static ip and is itching to relive our college days.
[03:52] <compilerwriter1> Tido do you have any idea which mudlib and driver you were examining?
[03:52] <Tido> idk compilerwriter1, let me see if I can remember
[03:52] <Tido> it was one of the more widly used and known ones
[03:52] <Xeakin> i need to talk with some expert in kubuntu
[03:52] <compilerwriter1> Jucato do you have any input on the matter?
[03:52] <Xeakin> :P
[03:53] <compilerwriter1> we all have some knowledge xeakin
[03:53] <Jucato> compilerwriter1: sorry. none...
[03:53] <Xeakin> great!
[03:53] <compilerwriter1> Your just old enough to know what I am talking about.
[03:53] <Xeakin> ok i have a problem that is really freaking me out
[03:53] <compilerwriter1> Xeakin cut to the chase.
[03:53] <Xeakin> im really new into linux
[03:53] <Xeakin> and i tried like 6 distribution already
[03:54] <compilerwriter1> We were all new once xeakin
[03:54] <Xeakin> all live, and with all i get the same error
[03:54] <Xeakin> SQUASHFS error: unable to read page block.....................
[03:54] <Xeakin> when the cd is booting
[03:54] <Xeakin> ive searched in a lot of pages, i check de hdd and the memory, and all the pc looking for some hard error, but everything looks fine
[03:55] <Xeakin> and i have it running in vmware
[03:55] <Xeakin> so i really dunno what can be :S
[03:55] <Xeakin> do u guys have some clue, abut what can it be?
[03:55] <compilerwriter1> Xeakin that is a little more for someone above my pay grade.  If everything is working though perhaps it is and optional thing that something in the livecd always checks for.
[03:56] <Tido> compilerwriter1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LPMud
[03:56] <BluesKaj> howdy all :)
[03:56] <compilerwriter1> Thanks tido
[03:57] <Tido> compilerwriter1: more specifically: http://www.bearnip.com/lars/proj/ldmud.html
[03:57] <Xeakin> so im screw :(
[03:58] <balint> hi, how can i save the modified xorg.conf file?
[03:58] <wilman> ctrl x
[03:58] <wilman> and answer yes
[03:59] <wilman> how to test if my soundcars id working properly, recording
[04:00] <BluesKaj> balint, "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"... click on save
[04:00] <balint> omg its unbelievable, my internet is always interrupted on linux, but only on linux :(:(
[04:00] <balint> well bb i have to burn up my ISP
[04:00] <BluesKaj> or whatever edit program you use kde is usuak=lly kate
[04:00] <BluesKaj> usually
[04:02] <BluesKaj> asks a question but doesn't wait a reasonable time for an answer
[04:03] <VSpike> IIRC MudOS is the best supported and most active Driver
[04:04] <tristano> how to remote-controlling linux in windows?
[04:05] <Tido> tristano: check out either VNC or FreeNX
[04:05] <BluesKaj> hey abattoir
[04:05] <tristano> Tido: ok
[04:05] <abattoir> hi BluesKaj
[04:05] <VSpike> compilerwriter1: check this old thread http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.mud.lp/browse_thread/thread/9c5d33c4a44c9ee0/dc687cc50ad037fd?lnk=st&q=author%3Acarlyle-clarke+mud&rnum=1#dc687cc50ad037fd
[04:05] <Tido> anyone know a graphical gui for subversion?
[04:06] <BluesKaj> I need to purge clamav but it won't go away , nor will it update so i can remove it ...any suggestions ?
[04:06] <Jucato> Tido: kdesvn?
[04:06] <Tido> thx Jucato
[04:06] <VSpike> compilerwriter1: http://www.mudconnector.com/
[04:06] <sleepy495> is xgl/compiz worth installing on dapper 6.06?
[04:07] <eMaX_> wow
[04:07] <rasputin1575> hello peeps, can anyone help me configure my network - kubuntu 6.10, pls PM
[04:08] <eMaX_> the following took me 1 hour to find out: firefox crashes consistently when visiting a page containing a java applet when the following setting is made: user_pref("general.useragent.override", "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Firefox/1.5; Linux)");
[04:08] <Tido> sleepy495: it can be fun, it burns a little more resources, but a lot of people enjoy it - however you can get along without just as well
[04:10] <compilerwriter1> Thanks VSpike
[04:10] <VSpike> compilerwriter1: np :)
[04:10] <henrique> #mossoro
[04:17] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: did you figure out your network problem
[04:18] <rasputin1575> no man...  its a headache
[04:18] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: whats the problem
[04:18] <rasputin1575> i can connect for a few mins b4 i lose it
[04:18] <rasputin1575> right.. well i can use the internet for a few mins and then i lose it..
[04:19] <rasputin1575> am looking for someone (kind enough :) ) to share the file /etc/network/interfaces so that i can have a glance on how its done
[04:19] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: I PMed you
[04:20] <BluesKaj> gents I need to purge clamav but it won't go away , nor will it update so i can remove it ...any suggestions ?
[04:20] <rasputin1575> yup bonbon, i replied
[04:20] <kristyon> can anyone tell me where the config file is for video devices?
[04:20] <kristyon> as in v4l
[04:21] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: I didnt get anything
[04:21] <rasputin1575> ooops.. hold on lemme try again
[04:21] <BluesKaj> neither adept nor synaptic or even apt/aptitude can make clamav go away cuz it's badly broken
[04:21] <rasputin1575> anything ?
[04:22] <BluesKaj> and it can't be fixed
[04:22] <bonbonthejon> BluesKaj: try reinstalling and then removinf
[04:22] <Jucato> what error message?
[04:22] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: no
[04:22] <BluesKaj> bonbonthejon, err i did all that :(
[04:24] <rasputin1575> not sure whats happening.. am getting urs though
[04:24] <bonbonthejon> I dont think I am identified
[04:25] <rasputin1575> ok hold on, will send u a link (left it on a forum) ..details are there
[04:25] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: I cant view web pages
[04:26] <mustasj> Hi all. I am thinking about installing kubuntu, I am curios if it recognice my sound card, it requires the Intel HD Audio module. Output from lspci : 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller . Any idea if this is supported in 6.10? It was not supported in dapper. If not, where can I find a kernel config for ubuntu/kubuntu kernels? Thanks
[04:26] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: just tell me the problem
[04:26] <rasputin1575> ok thing is i have 2 laptops.. one with windows and the other with kubuntu
[04:26] <rasputin1575> got a rooter (no wireless), just plain old cable
[04:27] <rasputin1575> when cable is connected to windows, everything works fine
[04:27] <rasputin1575> but when i connect it to kubuntu's, it works for a while
[04:27] <rasputin1575> now i guess i must have screwed up the configuration on /etc/network/interfaces
[04:27] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: have you edited it?
[04:28] <rasputin1575> yup.. big time.. everytime i google it, i get something different, so its doing my head in
[04:28] <oceanstream> What's the difference between edgy and feisty?
[04:28] <bonbonthejon> oceanstream: edgy is the most recently released, feisty is still in development
[04:29] <Jucato> !feisty
[04:29] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[04:29] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: I should pastebin this, but I cant
[04:29] <oceanstream> ah, thank you.
[04:29] <oceanstream> clearly i am noob to *buntu.
[04:30] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: auto lo
[04:30] <rasputin1575> yeah go on
[04:30] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: iface lo inet loopback
[04:30] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: auto eth1
[04:30] <Jucato> oceanstream: we were all noobs once :)
[04:30] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: iface eth1 inet dhcp
[04:30] <rasputin1575> ok i have static instead
[04:30] <oceanstream> Jucato: yeah, but I get to be a noob all over again!  Slackware refuses to install on my laptop, so it's time to find a user-friendly distro. :)
[04:31] <Jucato> oceanstream: slack? then you're definitely not a noob :)
[04:31] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: well, does the router have DHCP?
[04:31] <oceanstream> Jucato: haha, but I've failed at using anything else - I'm kind of excited for package management and dependency tracking done by a program instead of by my brain :)
[04:32] <oceanstream> Jucato: the only linux I've actually been able to make run in the last 7 years or so is slackware.
[04:32] <rasputin1575> thats what i was told.. i just rang the provided...  i guess i need to change that to dhcp
[04:32] <rasputin1575> provider*
[04:32] <Jucato> well, knowledge that you gained will definitely still be useful, no matter the distro :)
[04:32] <gorganalmighty> oceanstream: slackware is one of the hardest distros to use, or so im told
[04:32] <Jucato> oceanstream: you are *definitely* *not* a noob :)
[04:32] <oceanstream> haha
[04:33] <Jucato> gorganalmighty: it is. it's the mother of all source based distros
[04:33] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: yeah, the ISP should give an IP to the router, the router should use DHCP to give IPs to the computers
[04:33] <Jucato> the oldest living distro as well
[04:33] <oceanstream> gorganalmighty: It can be a pain if you're not used to it - buliding everything from source w/o any real safety net.
[04:33] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: the windows box must be getting the ISP's IP, then kubuntu is left without
[04:33] <rasputin1575> cool <bonbon>.. since its dhcp , u think i need to fill out the details for address, netmask, network, bcast and gateway ?
[04:34] <gorganalmighty> is there no package management in slackware?
[04:34] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: the stuff I sent you should get an IP from DHCP
[04:34] <oceanstream> gorganalmighty: Well, there's an extremely limited set of package tools..
[04:34] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: I also use knetworkmanager, which is really nice
[04:34] <Jucato> Slackware packages are .tar.gz :D
[04:34] <oceanstream> gorganalmighty: Nothing even close to what ubuntu, debian, mandrake offer.
[04:34] <oceanstream> gorganalmighty: When I want a program, I download the source and compile.
[04:35] <gorganalmighty> hmmm... i think i'll stick with kubuntu thankyou! ;)
[04:35] <rasputin1575> cool mate, lemme have a go at that... will need to signout from here... am on windows right now
[04:35] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: ok, ill be here for a while
[04:35] <Jucato> anyway, slackware discussion getting -offtopic :)
[04:35] <oceanstream> hahah
[04:35] <rasputin1575> thx for ur help .. yeah i'll pop in later to let u know how it goes.. also just wondering , could there be a prb with my ethernet card ?
[04:35] <oceanstream> my bad :) - what's the name of the ubuntu package management system?
[04:35] <bonbonthejon> anyone know is I can disable TLS in konqueror
[04:35] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: I doubt it
[04:36] <rasputin1575> ok cheers... lemme try it now..
[04:36] <Jucato> bonbonthejon: Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Crypto ?
[04:36] <gorganalmighty> oceanstream: dpkg
[04:36] <gorganalmighty> as ubuntu is debian
[04:36] <chronic1> how many of you guys use the Automatix2 script?
[04:36] <bonbonthejon> thanks Jucato
[04:37] <chronic1> i just started to read about it yesterday...and still don't know too much about it
[04:37] <Jucato> !automatix
[04:37] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:37] <gorganalmighty> chronic1: I've been advised not to touch it so i don't
[04:37] <chronic1> haha
[04:37] <chronic1> ok..note taken....sounds kinda like a deb-hell maker
[04:37] <Jucato> chronic1: you can ask in #automatix if you want
[04:37] <Jucato> hopefully, feisty will make automatix and easyubuntu a bit redundant in some areas
[04:38] <gorganalmighty> not easyubuntu because of proprietry issues
[04:39] <oceanstream> Does kubuntu use beryl or another compositing window manager?
[04:39] <oceanstream> for desktop effects?
[04:39] <chronic1> Jucato: do you happen to have dvd/wmv/flash support on your machine?
[04:39] <Jucato> chronic1: not sure/yes/yes
[04:39] <Jucato> oceanstream: not installed by default
[04:39] <Jucato> and not completely supported (yet)
[04:40] <Jucato> !beryl | oceanstream
[04:40] <ubotu> oceanstream: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:40] <chronic1> did the standard "apt-get install flash-nonfree" work for you?
[04:40] <gorganalmighty> is easyUbuntu still maintained?
[04:40] <Jucato> chronic1: yes. (flashplugin-nonfree)
[04:40] <Jucato> gorganalmighty: not really sure. you have to ask them
[04:40] <oceanstream> Jucato: That's alright, I made beryl work with slackware I'm sure kubuntu will be similar.
[04:41] <chronic1> hmm, i have always got the error about bad network or upstream changes
[04:41] <chronic1> guess i'll try again
[04:41] <Jucato> btw, Flash 9 beta 2 is available in dapper and edgy -backports
[04:41] <oceanstream> Really?
[04:41] <Jucato> wmv support (w32codecs) is the easiest to install, provided you're on a 32-bit system
[04:42] <Jucato> !flash9
[04:42] <ubotu> flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[04:42] <chronic1> Jucato: i tried the w32codecs and the libdvdcss2 but get the following error for both of them....
[04:42] <Jucato> chronic1: I'm presuming you're on a 32-bit system. w32codecs and flash don't work on 64-bit
[04:43] <chronic1> it is a 32bit system
[04:43] <bonbonthejon> Jucato: I'm trying to authenticate konqueror with BorderManager, I disabled TLS, but now it says it lost connection to the server
[04:43] <Jucato> bonbonthejon: oh... I'm not familiar with those stuff :(
[04:43] <bronze> Hi. My /etc/apt/apt.conf file has only one line in it (New kubuntu install) and does not seemto beable to reach any repos.  and all the repos in sources.list were commented out by the installer. I can't do any apt operations successfully. Can anyone give me some ideas what to do please?
[04:43] <BluesKaj> Jucato, neither adept nor synaptic or even apt/aptitude can make clamav go away cuz it's badly broken
[04:43] <bonbonthejon> Jucato: ok, thanks, where shoudl I ask
[04:44] <BluesKaj> any ideas , Jucato ?
[04:44] <Jucato> bonbonthejon: probably here, but you'd have to wait for someone to answer...
[04:44] <chronic1> sorry for the PM...i just am wierd about pasting in channels
[04:44] <Jucato> !pastebin | chronic1
[04:44] <ubotu> chronic1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:44] <Jucato> that's what pastebins are for :)
[04:44] <Jucato> chronic1: you can't install w32codecs from the repositories (at least the official ones)
[04:45] <bonbonthejon> bronze: if you do ifconfig do you have an IP address
[04:45] <chronic1> what all repositories would you say are "safe" to include?
[04:45] <bronze> bonbonthejon: yes. I can get to internet fine
[04:45] <Jucato> chronic1: my personal opinion? ubuntu.com, kubuntu.org, and wine
[04:45] <Jucato> bronze: you need to uncomment the repositories you need
[04:45] <bonbonthejon> bronze: can you ping the source
[04:46] <paul_> Hi everyone, can someome please help me, I am new to Kubuntu. I have mounted a samba share in a folder within /media/sharedrive/, I would really like to modify the icon here, so I can make it look like a network share rather than a regular folder but every time I try to do it, it tells me I do not have sufficient access to edit a .directory file. There isn't even a .directory folder in there! I have tried sudo kate the .directory file, but it doesn't find
[04:46] <paul_> anything, can someone please help?
[04:46] <Jucato> chronic1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs
[04:46] <bronze> Jucato: you read my mind. I just did that. :-)
[04:46] <Jucato> :P
[04:46] <bronze> bonbonthejon: My network issues are all resolved.
[04:46] <bonbonthejon> bronze: can you update
[04:46] <bonbonthejon> bronze: good
[04:46] <bronze> bonbonthejon: just did. it seems to be working
[04:47] <bronze> thank you.
[04:47] <Jucato> heh :)
[04:47] <gorganalmighty> When i started using kubuntu I was suprised at how small the repositorys are.  Aren't there any generic Debian repositorys I should be adding?
[04:48] <bronze> oops - i installed xchat... there goes all the system speed - its activating gnome libraries.... :-(
[04:48] <bonbonthejon> !source-o-matic
[04:48] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:48] <Jucato> gorganalmighty: small?
[04:48] <bonbonthejon> gorganalmighty: ^^^
[04:48] <gorganalmighty> it seems small when you search for a particular type of util and find there are none
[04:48] <gorganalmighty> for example a binary file editor
[04:48] <Jucato> gorganalmighty: there are 20,000+ packages in Ubuntu
[04:49] <Jucato> of course, it might not be as much as what Debian has
[04:49] <gorganalmighty> maybe small is the wrong word
[04:49] <paul_> Xeakin: I can't PM apparently, not registered.
[04:49] <gorganalmighty> but ive been looking for a good linux binary file editor and haven't found one
[04:50] <Jucato> gorganalmighty: can you give an example of one?
[04:50] <Jucato> !register | paul_
[04:50] <ubotu> paul_: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[04:50] <gorganalmighty> also items like PythonCard and Audacity aren't in there
[04:50] <bonbonthejon> !audacity
[04:50] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1850 kB, installed size 5444 kB
[04:50] <gorganalmighty> Jucato: no i can't.  If I could I wouldn't be searching for 1
[04:51] <gorganalmighty> hmmm....
[04:51] <paul_> !register
[04:51] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[04:51] <Jucato> gorganalmighty: well, usually, you first search if there is a such an app in Linux before you search if there's a package for it in Kubuntu
[04:51] <Jucato> because Kubuntu can't have a package for an app that doesn't exist for Linux :)
[04:51] <gorganalmighty> i couldn't find audacity when I searched with adept from the dapper livecd
[04:52] <Jucato> !pythoncard | gorganalmighty
[04:52] <ubotu> pythoncard: wxPython-based GUI construction framework (meta-package). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-7 (edgy), package size 24 kB, installed size 60 kB
[04:52] <bonbonthejon> gorganalmighty: the livecd probably doesnt have all the repositories enabled
[04:52] <Jucato> gorganalmighty: in the Live CD, most of your repositories are disabled. it will only show you main and resitricted
[04:52] <gorganalmighty> i went in an enabled the ones that were there, but there were only about 5
[04:53] <Jucato> gorganalmighty: it's a Live CD :)
[04:53] <gorganalmighty> i must be missing something....
[04:53] <Jucato> it's not meant to be a *real* install
[04:53] <Jucato> it only contains enough settings and information to run, test and install
[04:53] <gorganalmighty> i only have internet at work so I use the Live CD to download packages to install at home
[04:53] <Jucato> if you really want to search for available packages, packages.ubuntu.com is the best way to go
[04:54] <gorganalmighty> okay thanks
[04:54] <Jucato> gorganalmighty: you have manually add universe and multiverse in the Live CD
[04:54] <gorganalmighty> my silly :D
[04:55] <Tido> anyone know a gmail checker that can check multiple accounts?
[04:55] <Jucato> kmail?
[04:55] <froud> give up, where is a magic solution to install nvidia on Kubuntu Dapper
[04:56] <Jucato> Tido: kmail? kcheckgmail?
[04:56] <kristyon> anyone use zoneminder?
[04:56] <Jucato> froud: is your card legacy?
[04:56] <gorganalmighty> do the opensource nvidia drivers support any kind of hardware acceleration?
[04:56] <kristyon> no
[04:57] <kristyon> not 3d anyway
[04:57] <Jucato> gorganalmighty: nope
[04:57] <froud> Jucato: GeForce FX 5200
[04:57] <kristyon> gorg anal mighty?
[04:58] <gorganalmighty> and i assume the closed source ones don't come preinstalled in kubuntu
[04:58] <Jucato> depending if your card is legacy or not, this should work normally: "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)" then "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[04:58] <kristyon> nope
[04:58] <Jucato> gorganalmighty: you assume correctly
[04:58] <manchicken> gorganalmighty: And they're unstable.
[04:58] <oceanstream> When I'm trying to set up this system, it doesn't give me a place to put in a root password?
[04:58] <gorganalmighty> kristyon: HAHA, Gorgan Almighty
[04:58] <Jucato> manchicken: they are not :P
[04:58] <oceanstream> then, when attempting kdesu I have no idea what to put in...
[04:58] <Jucato> !sudo | oceanstream
[04:58] <ubotu> oceanstream: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:58] <Jucato> oceanstream: your (first) user's password
[04:58] <froud> Jucato: I did sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common
[04:58] <kristyon> gorgan, sorry just my dirty mind, I couldn't make it out!
[04:58] <manchicken> Jucato: Sure they are.  Especially if you want to do anything with power management.
[04:59] <Jucato> manchicken: heh, I'm on a desktop... :)
[04:59] <froud> Jucato:  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[04:59] <Jucato> froud: you need the linux-restricted-modules for your kernel too
[04:59] <gorganalmighty> what about download stright from nvidia website?
[04:59] <Jucato> that's different from nvidia-kernel-common
[04:59] <kristyon> anyone use gatos for ati radeon vid capture?
[04:59] <oceanstream> Jucato: Well, how am I supposed to configure eth0 with this system?  In the configuration manager, it's set to dhcp and "Administrator Mode" asks for the root password.
[04:59] <lupine_85> gorganalmighty: no point
[04:59] <Jucato> gorganalmighty: possible, but more problematic
[04:59] <lupine_85> !nvidiabeta
[04:59] <ubotu> For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[04:59] <manchicken> Jucato: Just because you don't use the functionality they break doesn't mean they don't break functionality ;)
[05:00] <Jucato> manchicken: it just means that I'm unaware of the instability :P
[05:00] <Jucato> oceanstream: I just told you, your user's password is the sudo password
[05:00] <oceanstream> oh
[05:00] <oceanstream> hahahaha
[05:00] <oceanstream> sorry
[05:00] <oceanstream> :)
[05:00] <Jucato> oceanstream: you could also read the wiki page I pointed out earlier
[05:00] <manchicken> heh
[05:00] <manchicken> ATI drivers are even more unstable though.
[05:00] <gorganalmighty> lol i wouldn't ever touch an ATI card
[05:01] <Jucato> no kidding?
[05:01] <Jucato>  :P
[05:01] <manchicken> These video card manufacturers are the enemies of freedom.  Nobody should buy from either of them ^_^
[05:01] <kristyon> how about ati video input?!!
[05:01] <gorganalmighty> manchicken: Good idea, I always love to GUESS what should be on my monitor!! :P
[05:01] <kristyon> been trying for ages to get my radeon to do capture
[05:02] <sleepy495> Will my desktop theme be erased when I install xgl/compiz?
[05:02] <fignew> gorganalmighty: ... or just use intel :P
[05:02] <manchicken> gorganalmighty: Intel makes quite a nice graphics card, and they support free software drivers, too.
[05:02] <bonbonthejon> gorganalmighty: I had a teacher who joked he could listen to the processor instead of jusing a monitor
[05:02] <gorganalmighty> manchicken: 3D acceleration?
[05:02] <manchicken> gorganalmighty: Yep.  Quite nice.
[05:02] <fignew> gorganalmighty: tons of it!
[05:02] <kristyon> man thats some high hearing range he's got!
[05:02] <Jucato> manchicken: non-IGP video cards?
[05:02] <gorganalmighty> manchicken@ I didn't realise that, I'll check it out
[05:03] <manchicken> Jucato: Dunno on that one.
[05:03] <Jucato> :)
[05:03] <manchicken> Or, for the safety and stability of your machine, you could just use free software drivers without 3d accel on any card.
[05:04] <manchicken> But I would agree that the intel cards are the best way to go.
[05:04] <gorganalmighty> Seriously can these Intel 3D accel cards compete with nVidia and ATI?
[05:04] <manchicken> (or any card sporting an intel chipset)
[05:04] <manchicken> gorganalmighty: Sure they can.
[05:04] <lupine_85> gorganalmighty: the latest one is OK
[05:04] <gorganalmighty> manchicken: have you ever tried playing Tux Racer without 3D Accel?
[05:04] <lupine_85> i810 and i915 were a bit weak
[05:04] <manchicken> gorganalmighty: The more important question is is your freedom worth 3d accel?
[05:05] <lupine_85> manchicken: well, yes :p
[05:05] <manchicken> That's a rather cheap price.
[05:05] <Jucato> manchicken: yes
[05:05] <Jucato> I also have the freedom to choose to use a binary driver, even if it somehow limits my absolute freedom, right?
[05:06] <gorganalmighty> manchicken: I'd prefer to avoid opensource becoming the new vendor lock-in
[05:06] <manchicken> Sure you do.  But I wouldn't recommend it.
[05:06] <sleepy495> how do I edit this from root? etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc, is it kdesu kate or just kdesu
[05:06] <manchicken> gorganalmighty: How is that a vendor lockin?
[05:06] <Jucato> sleepy495: kdesu kate
[05:06] <sleepy495> thanks
[05:06] <Jucato> sleepy495: kdesu lets you run kate as root
[05:06] <manchicken> gorganalmighty: When you've got the ability to do whatever you want with the software, there is no lockin.
[05:06] <lupine_85> http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/linux-doomsday
[05:06] <lupine_85> oh yes
[05:06] <Jucato> some, though, have a mental lockin
[05:07] <Jucato> mental/theoretical/ideological lock in
[05:07] <manchicken> Yeah.  Those who hate the notion that it's okay to restrict freedom for the sake of profit will have that lock-in I suppose.
[05:07] <Daisuke_Ido> my mind is apparently elsewhere this morning...  i read kdesu as k-desu rather than kde-su :\
[05:07] <gorganalmighty> Restricting someone to only free stuff when better is available is just like vendor lock-in
[05:07] <lupine_85> desu desu desu
[05:08] <lupine_85> ;)
[05:08] <Daisuke_Ido> exactly.
[05:08] <gorganalmighty> they all fall down
[05:08] <Jucato> lupine_85: hai!
[05:08] <Daisuke_Ido> scary
[05:08] <lupine_85> hai2u
[05:08] <Daisuke_Ido> oh no
[05:08] <manchicken> gorganalmighty: It's not about restricting.  It's about freedom.  Less free is not better.
[05:08] <Jucato> well, anyway, discussion is getting -offtopic...
[05:08] <gorganalmighty> agreed
[05:08] <lupine_85> manchicken: more choice is always better ~desu
[05:08] <gorganalmighty> And I've got work to do....
[05:08] <manchicken> Even if it's "better" technology, it's still not okay to restrict a person for the sake of profit.
[05:08] <manchicken> lupine_85: Slavery is not a choice.
[05:09] <lupine_85> it is if there's a choice
[05:09] <manchicken> lupine_85: Slavery is never a choice.
[05:09] <Jucato> I suggest to those who want to continue the discussion to continue it in #kubuntu-offtopic
[05:09] <manchicken> Jucato: Stick in the mud ;)
[05:09] <manchicken> heh
[05:09] <Jucato> :)
[05:09] <manchicken> Either way, nvidia and ATI drivers suck mainly because they destabilize your kernel as well as restrict your freedom.
[05:09] <lupine_85> If I choose to sell myself into slavery (rather than being captured in a village raid ;) ), it was a choice
[05:09] <manchicken> ^_^
[05:10] <lupine_85> but yeah, the binary drivers do suck
[05:10] <lupine_85> nouveau++
[05:10] <manchicken> lupine_85: Not if the slave-masters killed the people who offered you freedom so that slavery would be the only choice.
[05:10] <Jucato> *ahem*
[05:11] <lupine_85> and there your analogy falls down. they didn't :)
[05:11] <lupine_85> Jucato: oh, ok :)
[05:11] <manchicken> Go to offtopic
[05:11] <lupine_85> not that there's much else going on here
[05:11] <lupine_85> nah, I'm done
[05:11] <Jucato> not a good reason :)
[05:12] <compilerwriter1> VSpike still here?
[05:12] <manchicken> lupine_85: Tell that to the guy who got sued by ATI for trying to reverse-engineer 3d drivers for Free software.  We could have nice, stable ATI drivers by now.  Though I've found that composite WMs kinda slow things down ^_^
[05:12] <Jucato> 1 reason why we tend not to encourage offtopic discussions, even when there's a very low traffic in here, is because some people might be afraid to ask questions because there's an ongoing discussion
[05:12] <manchicken> (see?  I talked about something kubuntu related, it's on topic)
[05:13] <lupine_85> well, reverse-engineering is illegal in some countries
[05:13] <compilerwriter1> Tido you still here?
[05:13] <lupine_85> clean-room implementation is necessary
[05:13] <lupine_85> hence nouveau
[05:13] <manchicken> lupine_85: Naw.  People should be able to write whatever software they want to write.  Like in kubuntu, you can write any program or contribute to the distro freely ^_^
[05:14] <manchicken> They even have a nice way of encouraging people to try making distros from their distro.
[05:14] <manchicken> It's quite nice.
[05:14] <compilerwriter1> I could use a little mud installation help if someone feels like playing around.
[05:14] <Tido> yeah compilerwriter1
[05:14] <lupine_85> mm, now we hit philosophy. That "right" clashes with the "right" of people to own what they create
[05:14] <compilerwriter1> good tido.  Want to help me get a mud fired up?
[05:15] <manchicken> lupine_85: Who says they have that right?
[05:15] <Jucato> manchicken: I really like you, specially for all your help... but please?
[05:15] <Tido> I really can't, compilerwriter1, I'm working :(
[05:15] <manchicken> Jucato: I suppose ^_^
[05:15] <compilerwriter1> ok.
[05:15] <Jucato> thanks
[05:15] <manchicken> Nobody has any good questions right now though. ^_^
[05:15] <manchicken> What else is there to talk about?
[05:15] <Tido> if you do it get up and running, send me an ip sometime, would be crazy to see a mud again
[05:16] <Jucato> manchicken: see my statement earlier
[05:16] <compilerwriter1> I got as far as config to create the makefile.
[05:16] <manchicken> Which one?
 1 reason why we tend not to encourage offtopic discussions, even when there's a very low traffic in here, is because some people might be afraid to ask questions because there's an ongoing discussion
[05:16] <manchicken> We're in code-freeze at work, so it's kinda dull there.
[05:16] <manchicken> Ah.
[05:16] <compilerwriter1> tido I am not sure I will be able to do that but perhaps you will be able to help in that regard when the time comes.
[05:16] <manchicken> Really?
[05:16] <Jucato> really
[05:16] <Tido> kk
[05:17] <Jucato> I was like you before. I questioned the rule of not having offtopic conversation during low traffic times...
[05:17] <manchicken> I wouldn't think that would be the problem.
[05:17] <compilerwriter1> Anyone need a diversion?
[05:17] <Jucato> diversions are more than welcome, in offtopic :)
[05:17] <Jucato> unless they are Kubuntu-related diversions
[05:19] <soulrider> Jucato: i think that if its a low traffic time it should be allowed to have offtopic conversations
[05:19] <soulrider> but definately not whent heres a lot fo people asking questions
[05:20] <Jucato> soulrider: I thought so too before. But I've seen it happen, that some people were reluctant to ask because there was an offtopic debate/discussion going on
[05:20] <compilerwriter1> Jucato It is a kubuntu diversion of sorts.  I am trying to make something work on kubuntu.
[05:20] <Jucato> anyway, it's not for me to decide
[05:20] <soulrider> compilerwriter1: what do you mean by "divertion of sorts" ?
[05:21] <Jucato> I only implement "the rules" :)
[05:21] <compilerwriter1> Jucato but in all fairness it is a total waste of time sort of thing for someone with a headache to divert the tension for a minute
[05:21] <compilerwriter1> soulrider I am trying to get a mud up on my machine to play with one again.
[05:21] <soulrider> a mud?
[05:21] <compilerwriter1> I think I have managed a workable make file from the config but am not sure.
[05:22] <BluesKaj> so what's the sledgehammer command to rid the system of a program that is blocking apt-updates ?
[05:22] <BluesKaj> a broken pkg
[05:23] <soulrider> !adeptfix
[05:23] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[05:23] <soulrider> there :)
[05:25] <rysiek|pl> hi all
[05:25] <soulrider> hi rysiek|pl
[05:25] <rysiek|pl> anybody knows of a way to *make* apt/aptitude/dpkg remove a given package *without* executing the pre-remove script?
[05:26] <Jucato> ??
[05:27] <soulrider> no idea, i just aptitude purge everything :P
[05:27] <rysiek|pl> lol
[05:27] <Jucato> what pre-remove script? and why don't you want to run it?
[05:28] <soulrider> !repos > compilerwriter1
[05:29] <rysiek|pl> Jucato: the prerm scripts; I get "subprocess pre-removal scripts returned error code 2"; I had a disk failure, some directories gone buh-bye (well, I have them - as files with numbers as their names in /lost+found :/ ) and I don't want to re-install the system from ground up
[05:30] <Jucato> ah.. . hm...
[05:30] <rysiek|pl> Jucato: actually reinstalling *all* the packages solved almost all problems - the dirs are back where they should be, etc - but 4 packages didn't install correctly
[05:32] <BluesKaj> apt keeps tewlling me to : dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem , but it doesn't do anything , the problem remains
[05:33] <Jucato> sudo apt-get -f install ?
[05:33] <soulrider> BluesKaj: sudo dpkg -conf......... ?
[05:34] <africantiger> hello
[05:35] <africantiger> Anyone able to help out of dependency hell on a newly installed Kubuntu?
[05:35] <africantiger> I am trying to install automatix2
[05:35] <sleepy495> Does it matter where to put certain backupfiles or can I put them anywhere
[05:35] <soulrider> africantiger: why would you have dependcy hell ?
[05:35] <yelonek> !automatix2
[05:36] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:36] <soulrider> just use apt-get or adept to install packages and it will install the dependencies
[05:36] <bubu1uk> sleepy495: at least somewhere where they r safe. that's why it's backup. not somewhere where they can get lost. :p
[05:36] <africantiger> tried a simle package vim, but no go
[05:37] <yelonek> !WorksForMe
[05:37] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[05:37] <soulrider> africantiger: vim is already installed
[05:37] <yelonek> !install
[05:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[05:37] <africantiger> soulrider: yes it is!
[05:38] <soulrider> africantiger: ;)
[05:38] <africantiger> soulrider: why does apt-get fail?
[05:38] <soulrider> maybe because its already installed
[05:38] <africantiger> soulrider: I also tried gvim -- that also did not work
[05:39] <yelonek> how do i give rights to write for me in /media/hda4 ? i tried to use chmod but not sure if i use it right
[05:39] <africantiger> soulrider: I am new to debian not linux (I use Fedora)
[05:39] <soulrider> africantiger: if youre using apt-get aptitude or adept, it WILL download dependencies automatically
[05:39] <yelonek> chmod u+w /media/hda4 ?
[05:39] <soulrider> yelonek: press alt+f2 and type "kdesu konqueror"
[05:39] <Jucato> africantiger: gvim is not installed by default, but vim is
[05:39] <soulrider> then go to /media/ and change permissions by right clicking hdb4 and selecting properties
[05:40] <soulrider> africantiger: deb doesnt have the problems rpm has ;)
[05:40] <yelonek> thx, soulrider :)
[05:40] <africantiger> sure did not work for automatix2
[05:40] <africantiger> neither .deb or apt-get xxx
[05:40] <soulrider> africantiger: have you enabled the extra repositories ?
[05:40] <africantiger> don't thinks so
[05:41] <soulrider> !repos | africantiger
[05:41] <ubotu> africantiger: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:41] <soulrider> that is probably your problem
[05:41] <africantiger> ok
[05:41] <Jucato> !automatix | africantiger
[05:41] <ubotu> africantiger: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:41] <soulrider> i suggest you dont use automatix i heard it broke some systems, but its your choice, some people use it and like it
[05:42] <africantiger> ok, stay away from automatix, instal lthe extra repos
[05:42] <africantiger> how do you use apt-get with adept?
[05:43] <africantiger> i tried apt-get adept install gvim  --- that did not work
[05:43] <Jucato> er
[05:43] <yelonek> sudo apt-get install gvim
[05:43] <Jucato> sudo apt-get install gvim
[05:43] <soulrider> africantiger: adept is like a GUI for apt-get
[05:43] <soulrider> see you Jucato
[05:43] <africantiger> ok
[05:43] <unix_infidel> o man, sleep sounds fun.
[05:43] <Jucato> see yah! :)
[05:44] <soulrider> !universe
[05:44] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:44] <Jucato> be nice to newbies :)
[05:44] <soulrider> we are ;)
[05:44] <soulrider> africantiger: follow that link, it will explain how to add the new repositories
[05:45] <africantiger> soulrider: thanks
[05:45] <africantiger> all: thanks
[05:45] <soulrider> no probnlem
[05:45] <BluesKaj> still stuck in broken pkg hell here :(
[05:45] <soulrider> ill be back in a sec
[05:46] <soulrider> BluesKaj: this will sound very windows-ish, but how about a reboot?
[05:46] <yelonek> africantiger: go to adept_manager, not installer
[05:46] <yelonek> africantiger: then you got view->manage repositories
[05:46] <BluesKaj> hehe, soulrider :) ...I guess it's worth a try
[05:47] <soulrider> im back :)
[05:47] <africantiger> what is adept_manager?
[05:47] <soulrider> africantiger: thats adept
[05:47] <yelonek> africantiger: kind of adept
[05:47] <scorp2025> Hi, last night I changed my source list to edgy (I am using dapper) and made a apt-get update. Then I switched back to default source list, unfortunately installing gettextruby1.8 isn't possible any more (keeps bugging that it isn't installable). What shall I do?
[05:47] <yelonek> go to system->adept manager
[05:47] <soulrider> adept has several interfaces, some are more expert oriented while others are more newbie oriented
[05:48] <soulrider> scorp2025: did you upgrade to edgy ?
[05:48] <soulrider> i dont think you should have changed the repo list back
[05:48] <africantiger> What is the main problem with automatix2?
[05:49] <intelikey> soulrider how would reboot help a broken package ?
[05:49] <scorp2025> soulrider: No I didn't. I tried to install the gettextruby1.8 version of edgy but it didn't work so I switched back.
[05:50] <intelikey> scorp2025 did you apt-get update after you switched back ?
[05:51] <scorp2025> intelikey: of course. That's why I don't understand the problem
[05:51] <intelikey> lets see the error
[05:52] <TheGateKeeper> BluesKaj, so what have you managed to break today?
[05:54] <intelikey> BluesKaj   Q. "so what do linux user do anyway?"    A. "they install software."     :)
[05:54] <BluesKaj> clamav. by trying to remove it
[05:55] <intelikey> sudo apt-get remove clamav     says what ?
[05:56] <scorp2025> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/837/ I translated the error message, because it's in German.
[05:57] <BluesKaj> clamav-daemon: Depends: clamav-base (= 0.88.4-1ubuntu2) but 0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1 is to be installed
[05:57] <intelikey> scorp2025 k thankd.
[05:57] <intelikey> s
[05:59] <intelikey> BluesKaj try       aptitude remove clamav clamav-base clamav-freshclam libclamav1
[05:59] <intelikey> see what it does.
[06:00] <Bubba_Gump> can anybody name a good place to buy PCI graphics cards in the UK please?
[06:01] <compilerwriter1> Is a file that keeps stalling while being downloaded likely to be corrupt?
[06:01] <yelonek> anybody had problems with sound mixer ?
[06:01] <intelikey> scorp2025 did you try#   sudo apt-get remove libgettext-ruby1.8
[06:01] <yelonek> i'm turning mute on, but still hear sounds
[06:01] <intelikey> scorp2025 probably just say not installed.
[06:02] <scorp2025> intelikey: it's not installed.
[06:02] <intelikey> !info libgettext-ruby1.8 dapper
[06:02] <ubotu> libgettext-ruby1.8: Gettext for ruby1.8. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.0-1build1 (dapper), package size 131 kB, installed size 2068 kB
[06:02] <intelikey> scorp2025 ok you have not universe in your sources.list  or the wrong universe repo
[06:02] <africantiger> help installing gvim
[06:03] <intelikey> !sound | yelonek
[06:03] <ubotu> yelonek: If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[06:03] <scorp2025> intelikey: I have main restricted universe and multiverse turned on.
[06:03] <intelikey> as dapper   and applied changes ?
[06:03] <africantiger> i have added universe and multiverse
[06:04] <BluesKaj> error processing clamav-daemon (--configure):Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting configuration.
[06:05] <scorp2025> intelikey yeah.
[06:06] <intelikey> BluesKaj ok first add that package to the removal   and then if that fails try this#     sudo dpkg -P --force-remove clamav-daemon clamav clamav-base clamav-freshclam
[06:06] <intelikey> or --force-all
[06:07] <intelikey> then do# sudo apt-get install -f    to take care of any inconsistancy in the package database
[06:07] <pcnerd37> Hi.  Im hoping somebody can help me.  Im having trouble figuring out how to set up the universe and multiverse repositories.  Im trying to use the guide for ubuntu to set them up with synaptic, but what it says to do and what is there are two different things.
[06:08] <BluesKaj>  intelikey,  dpkg: unknown force/refuse option `remove
[06:08] <intelikey> see above post ^
 or --force-all
[06:09] <yelonek> !pcm
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pcm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <yelonek> what is pcm in mixer ?
[06:09] <pcnerd37> also, when doing any kind of scrolling, it is real jerky and not smooth at all.  Is there anyway to fix that?
[06:10] <scorp2025> intelikey: any ideas left?
[06:10] <yelonek> !kmix
[06:10] <ubotu> kmix: sound mixer applet for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 366 kB, installed size 1208 kB
[06:10] <apixelatedoffice> I have to be a KDE n00b for a bit... I want to get rid of a ton of Gnome based apps... KDE apps are much better... so anyways, I checked like 25 un-installations and crashed my system last time... if I simply un-installed the gnome desktop (with one check using synaptic) would that harm my system?
[06:11] <intelikey> oh scorp2025 if you tried to install that from edgy repos you may need to  "sudo apt-get clean "   also
[06:11] <BluesKaj> Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:11] <intelikey> you could have a uninstallable package in the cache dir.
[06:11] <BluesKaj> sounds reasonable
[06:11] <intelikey> what was the error ?
[06:11] <BluesKaj> that was it above
[06:12] <BluesKaj> /var/cache/apt/archives/clamav-daemon_0.88.4-1ubuntu2_i386.deb
[06:12] <BluesKaj> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:12] <pcnerd37> when i move windows on the screen or try to scroll, it is really jerky, is there anyway to fix that?  graphics drivers possibly?
[06:13] <africantiger> soulrider: how does one install software on kubuntu?
[06:13] <africantiger> I have been successful thus far?
[06:13] <africantiger> not even in adept
[06:13] <apixelatedoffice> is checking to uninstall simply the gnome desktop, will it mess my system up?
[06:14] <intelikey> BluesKaj why are you installing ?    -P is purge packages
[06:14] <africantiger> i am trying to install firefox from adept
[06:14] <intelikey> apixelatedoffice no not at all
[06:15] <BluesKaj> I'm not installing as such , but I reckon I have to install to fix the broken pkg in order to remove it successfully
[06:15] <apixelatedoffice> Ok thanks, it's a start... one day I wont be a n00b, and I'll be super happy with KDE!!! lol
[06:15] <intelikey> africantiger try the command line ?     sudo apt-get install firefox
[06:16] <africantiger> unmet dependencies
[06:16] <scorp2025> intelikey: thx for your help! But this just won't work, I guess I finally killed my system :-(
[06:16] <apixelatedoffice> intelikey... one more quicky... what is the fastest way to uninstall programs you see in the 'start menu'
[06:16] <intelikey> BluesKaj shouldn't have to    that's what the --force-all -P  should do on the dpkg command   if you ran that then you might run the apt-get install -f   to see what it says now.
[06:16] <sleepy495> what line do I add for sources,.list, this one doesn't work "deb http://xgl.compiz.info/dapper main
[06:18] <intelikey> apixelatedoffice sudo apt-get remove <package name>      and wildcards will work     gtk*   for example will clean out most all gnome packages.
[06:19] <intelikey> scorp2025 i'm on dialup so slow connection but i'm installing that package to test   trying to determine what might be happening there.
[06:19] <apixelatedoffice> OK awesome, thanks, one of the reasons I switched to KDE is because the Ubuntu room is ridiculous ... 1000 people... and if you have a question you are their mercy! :^)
[06:20] <intelikey> only a few seconds left on the dl.
[06:20] <BluesKaj> intelikey, same errors
[06:20] <intelikey> apixelatedoffice yes a channel can get "over crowded"
[06:21] <apixelatedoffice> yeah, it's almost like the super geeks rule the room and there is no room for simple questions.
[06:21] <intelikey> BluesKaj clear the cache and try it.
[06:21] <BluesKaj> how do i do that, intelikey ?
[06:21] <intelikey> apixelatedoffice except the "super geeks" don't seem to know anything either most of the time.
[06:22] <apixelatedoffice> hehe, super geek wannabes? lol
[06:22] <intelikey> BluesKaj sudo apt-get clean
[06:22] <BluesKaj> EEEUWW intelikey , that looks dangerous
[06:23] <Lynoure> BluesKaj: it just cleans away local cache of .deb files
[06:23] <intelikey> well in all fairness to the supergeeks i don't usually get an answer to my questions in here either.
[06:23] <intelikey> scorp2025 i just installed   Setting up libruby1.8 (1.8.4-1ubuntu1.3) ...
[06:24] <intelikey> Setting up libgettext-ruby1.8 (1.1.0-1build1) ...
[06:24] <Lynoure> BluesKaj: I have always thought that get clean sounds like a shower :)
[06:24] <scorp2025> intelikey So it worked for you?
[06:25] <yelonek> how do i put openoffice.org Draw into menu ?
[06:25] <intelikey> as you see no error here     (dapper)   so it's in your sources.list or your package cache  or your package database       edit the sources.list by hand carefully and make sure there is no edgy in it.   sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*   and  sudo apt-get update    then try again.
[06:25] <yelonek> i tried to add ooffice -draw  position
[06:26] <yelonek> but that doesn't work
[06:26] <BluesKaj> bummer ...same errors
[06:26] <scorp2025> intelikey could you please paste your source list?
[06:27] <yelonek> nah, no underline: "% U"
[06:27] <intelikey> BluesKaj ok you you want to play hard ball with that thing we can rm the configs for that package and then uninstall it.
[06:27] <apixelatedoffice> umm is 'OpenGL' referring to "most compatible with gnome"?
[06:27] <BluesKaj> intelikey, it seems the only thing left to do :)
[06:28] <intelikey> BluesKaj ok how do you want to do it.  cli or gui ?     and you'll have to wait while i take a short break first.
[06:28] <BluesKaj> i don't even want the thing ...I mistakenly decided to install it
[06:28] <BluesKaj> cli works for me
[06:28] <scorp2025> intelikey thx a lot :-)
[06:28] <apixelatedoffice> I think I answered my own question... when I clicked uninstall... it wanted to uninstall gaim and abiword and xchat and stuff!
[06:29] <lynskyn__> Are you gay?
[06:29] <intelikey> k brb.
[06:31] <NeonLightning> how do i check what processes are using a specific process
[06:32] <intelikey> pstree
[06:32] <NeonLightning> oi bash is using dpkg
[06:33] <NeonLightning> and i can't kill dpkg
[06:34] <intelikey> BluesKaj ok.  do    rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/clamav*.*inst ;sudo apt-get install -f ;sudo apt-get remove --purge clamav*
[06:34] <compilerwriter1> I may have backgrounded a job how do I find out?
[06:34] <yelonek> how do i run OODraw ? I know it is installed, but there is no shortcut in menu
[06:34] <intelikey> NeonLightning users can't kill what they don't own.   sudo.
[06:35] <NeonLightning> i am in console as root right now
[06:35] <NeonLightning> and i thought you couldn't use kill -9 without beeing in sudo or root anyway
[06:35] <intelikey> NeonLightning fuser -k /usr/bin/dpkg*
[06:36] <NeonLightning> blank
[06:38] <intelikey> kill doesn't have to be -9  can be -6 or no option  also killall <processname>        ps -A x    &   top  are handy.
[06:38] <BluesKaj> cool! thx intelikey ...no broken pkgs ! :)
[06:38] <intelikey> compilerwriter1 fg ?
[06:38] <intelikey> BluesKaj np.
[06:38] <NeonLightning> oh i've always just used -9
[06:39] <intelikey> BluesKaj i have had dpkg broken many times....
[06:39] <NeonLightning> and for ps i usually use ps -aux |grep whatever
[06:40] <intelikey> that will error  ^   NeonLightning   they broke posix  the -a is not an option.   try  ps aux      and i don't like it but that's the new standard
[06:40] <NeonLightning> yea it errors but still works for some reason
[06:40] <intelikey> man ps for more.
[06:41] <intelikey> NeonLightning i like "-A" better than "a"  anyway  :)
[06:42] <NeonLightning> yea my adept errored wile installing totem-gstreamer and then i went to use it again and it said i couldn't change anything  so i tried to apt-get install it and it gave me an error saying to do dpkg --configure -a and that just gives me and error saying that dpkg is in use
[06:43] <intelikey> did you kill it ?
[06:43] <NeonLightning> couldn't
[06:43] <intelikey> does ps -A x say it's [defunct]  ?
[06:43] <NeonLightning> it doesn't say anything about not beeing able to but when i kill it i check ps again and its still there with the same pid
[06:44] <NeonLightning> i'll try that
[06:44] <NeonLightning>  9613 ?        D      0:00 dpkg --configure -a
[06:44] <intelikey> killall dpkg
[06:45] <NeonLightning> o
[06:45] <NeonLightning> i'm running off livecd and man is that putting the cd in go
[06:45] <NeonLightning> but now the cdrom has stopped and its still sitting on a blank line not at the prompt again tho
[06:46] <intelikey> killall didn't return ?     eeek!
[06:46] <intelikey> man the life boats!    abandon ship !
[06:46] <NeonLightning> yea this mobo is flaky so i'm blaming that
[06:47] <intelikey> sudo kill -9 -1      women and children first!    aoooogaaa !
[06:47] <intelikey> expect that to kill it. ^    along with everything else.
[06:48] <NeonLightning> lol so thats the same as shutdown -t3 now now
[06:48] <intelikey> no it leaves a running system.
[06:49] <intelikey> it's like killall5 && exit
[06:49] <NeonLightning> what does it leave you with?
[06:49] <intelikey> the kernel and init.
[06:49] <NeonLightning> lol might as well just reset
[06:49] <intelikey> you can then login and startx
[06:49] <NeonLightning> can't login i'm on a livecd
[06:49] <intelikey> if you wish.
[06:50] <NeonLightning> don't know the pass they use for the account ubuntu
[06:50] <intelikey> not one.
[06:51] <jakkass> .: 18: Can't open /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions
[06:51] <jakkass> any ideas guys?
[06:51] <jakkass> i'm trying to start my lighttpd server
[06:51] <jakkass> it won't work :o
[06:51] <intelikey> is the file there ?
[06:51] <jakkass> doesn't appear so
[06:51] <llutz> jakkass: installed no ubuntu-package?
[06:51] <jakkass> eh what?
[06:51] <jakkass> lol
[06:52] <jakkass> i installed kubuntu if thats one of the default packages i must have
[06:52] <intelikey> jakkass i think that's in lsb-utils
[06:52] <intelikey> let me check
[06:52] <jakkass> E: Couldn't find package lsb-utils
[06:52] <jakkass> E: Couldn't find package ubuntu-package
[06:53] <intelikey> lsb-base
[06:53] <intelikey> !lsb-base
[06:54] <ubotu> lsb-base: Linux Standard Base 3.1 init script functionality. In component main, is required. Version 3.1-10ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 76 kB
[06:54] <jakkass> hmm its not in apt-get
[06:54] <jakkass> for some reason
[06:54] <jakkass> oh base
[06:54] <sleepy495> how do I unhide files in konqueror?
[06:54] <jakkass> lsb-base is already the newest version.
[06:54] <LjL> Ubotu, tell sleepy495 about hidden | sleepy495, see the private message from Ubotu
[06:55] <intelikey> but it's not there... in fact i just went looking for   /etc/init.d/*funct*   and don't have one.    so find out what is looking for it and fix that.
[06:55] <sleepy495> !hidden
[06:55] <ubotu> Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[06:55] <intelikey> !hidden | sleepy495
[06:55] <ubotu> sleepy495: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[06:55] <intelikey> :)
[06:56] <llutz> they call it a "feature" ... tststs :(
[06:56] <intelikey> :B
[06:58] <intelikey> sleepy495 you might have been asking about   view -> show hidden
[06:58] <soulrider> i think that feature is getting removed in feisty
[06:58] <intelikey> that will show  .blah   where as the other will show you how to see /things
[06:59] <intelikey> soulrider yes i heard it was,  all they got was cussings from it....
[06:59] <soulrider> lol yes intelikey
[07:00] <HailandKill> Is there a helpful part of Adept Manager that will kindly tell me why my requested changes apparently BREAK everything?
[07:00] <soulrider> i think that all of my complaining about pppoe connections finally worked, since theyre implementing knetworkmanager
[07:01] <intelikey> HailandKill did you enable the universe/multiverse repos ?
[07:01] <intelikey> !repos | HailandKill
[07:01] <ubotu> HailandKill: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:01] <HailandKill> Not to my knowledge. Should I?
[07:02] <intelikey> yes
[07:02] <intelikey> read the link   ^
[07:03] <HailandKill> I've got everything enabled that is required enabled
[07:03] <intelikey> the standard ubuntu repositories " main restricted universe multiverse  & backports "   are safe (reletivly anyway) and give you access to over 12 more packages.
[07:03] <sleepy495> why is my source.list blank when I type kdesu kate etc/apt/sources.list ?
[07:04] <intelikey> "required enabled" ???
[07:04] <gnomefreak> sleepy495: you forgot the first /
[07:04] <intelikey> cause there is no $HOME/etc/apt/sources.list
[07:04] <zorglu_> sleepy495: "/etc/apt/sources.list"
[07:04] <gnomefreak> sleepy495: its /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:04] <sleepy495> thank
[07:04] <HailandKill> intelikey, they are enabled. I remeber doing it now, but I just edited the file.
[07:05] <intelikey> HailandKill ok apply changes update the database
[07:05] <intelikey> HailandKill just editing the file alone does nothing.
[07:06] <HailandKill> intelikey. Sorry, yeah... I updated everything ages ago. It all works perfectly
[07:06] <intelikey> ok what is listed that you can't install ?
[07:07] <HailandKill> I'm trying to install libpq-dev
[07:07] <intelikey> !libpq-dev
[07:07] <ubotu> libpq-dev: header files for libpq4 (PostgreSQL library). In component main, is optional. Version 8.1.4-7ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 298 kB, installed size 988 kB
[07:07] <intelikey> ok and it gives errors ?
[07:08] <HailandKill> It says Requested change: BREAK (install)
[07:08] <HailandKill> Consequently, it refuses to install.
[07:09] <intelikey> ah ok you added other (non-ubuntu) repos didn't you.  and installed what compiz ?
[07:10] <intelikey> pastebin you sources.list HailandKill
[07:10] <HailandKill> kk
[07:12] <intelikey> !break
[07:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about break - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:14] <intelikey> !automatix
[07:14] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:14] <intelikey> !WorksForMe
[07:14] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[07:16] <intelikey> !rezolution
[07:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rezolution - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:17] <intelikey> !resolution
[07:17] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:19] <HailandKill> intelikey, right... http://pastebin.com/854433
[07:19] <NeonLightning> i installed totem-gstreamer and gstreamer-0.8-dvd and totem keeps telling me that i don't have the plugins to play a dvd
[07:23] <intelikey> HailandKill hmmm well that's clean enough.    open a konsole and do# apt-get -s remove libpq*           and see what all it pukes out.
[07:24] <intelikey> may need to close adept first
[07:24] <intelikey> not sure for a dry run
[07:25] <HailandKill> It pukes out a lot...
[07:26] <intelikey> yes is libpq4  in the list ?
[07:27] <intelikey> better yet re run it with this added to it.     | grep libpq
[07:27] <ninnghizidha> Question: I cant upload to Flickr on two Pcs with Kubuntu (6.06 and 6.10) - i cant upload, thats so wierd.
[07:27] <HailandKill> one step ahead:
[07:28] <HailandKill> it is in there, "Note, selecting libpq4 for regex 'libpq*'
[07:28] <HailandKill> E: Broken packages
[07:28] <intelikey> HailandKill notice.   "Note, selecting"  can be ignored.
[07:29] <intelikey> but the broken package error we may need.
[07:29] <sleepy495> where is kde window decorator located?
[07:30] <intelikey> so get that in context    try this#  apt-get -s remove libpq* | grep -B5 -A5 libpq | grep -v "Note, selecting"
[07:31] <intelikey> HailandKill that should parse the output  might forget grep and just use less
[07:33] <intelikey> btw for anyone that didn't know    less has a search feature   /string   or  ?string   to search for string forward or backwards respectively
[07:34] <HailandKill> intelikey http://pastebin.com/854442
[07:35] <HailandKill> not sure if that's quite what you expected...
[07:35] <Tido> this is what I hate about kde/kubuntu: when I accidently open a file that uses a program already open, it makes the new mouse cursor, and puts a new item on the taskbar, and then takes about 2 minutes to figure out that program is already running
[07:36] <intelikey> HailandKill  sudo apt-get install -f       and pastebin the output
[07:37] <intelikey> tido so use   twm   insted of kde  :)
[07:38] <sleepy495> whats this mean at startup, "/dev/sda3 has been mounted 30 times without being checked?
[07:38] <intelikey> sleepy495 ah it means it's been mounted 30 times without being checked
[07:38] <HailandKill> pretty much what it says on the tin
[07:39] <HailandKill> It isn't a problem, sleepy495
[07:39] <HailandKill> intelikey, http://pastebin.com/854445
[07:39] <intelikey> k
[07:40] <intelikey> sleepy495 if you want to change that behaviour  use sudo tune2fs /dev/sda3      man tune2fs   for options
[07:41] <sleepy495> ok
[07:41] <sleepy495> I installed compiz and xgl, when I type compiz --replace gconf it says Couldnt load plugin 'libgconf.so
[07:41] <intelikey> sleepy495 i personally turn max count off   but that's not recommended.
[07:42] <intelikey> one would just assume gconf is installed.....
[07:43] <intelikey> HailandKill hmmmm that's very odd.
[07:44] <intelikey> HailandKill if you try to install that libpq4-dev via apt-get does it give anymore info on what is holding it up ?
[07:44] <intelikey> HailandKill cause that doesn't look normal   to have a broken package request with nothing broken....
[07:45] <intelikey> HailandKill i was actually expecting it to end with a postinst configure error or something.
[07:49] <BluesKaj> oops , fix broken pkgs is back !
[07:49] <fairman> Hi, i have one question. How to set to always run *.exe application throught Wine? I can set "remember this application forever" but next attempt he do not remmeber it. I am trying it throught Krusader
[07:50] <intelikey> BluesKaj what did you do now      lol
[07:50] <BluesKaj> nothing ...upgraded repos
[07:50] <BluesKaj> err updated rather
[07:51] <intelikey> fairman right click one and select run with and remember this type
[07:51] <HailandKill> intelikey, if I use Adept it tells me that there was an error committing changes. Followed with some generic possibilities, like it couldn't connect to the server or the package breaks other backages
[07:51] <fairman> intelikey: Yes i did it, but it is still wrong
[07:51] <HailandKill> I'm assuming libpq4-dev is breaking something, but I can't seem to find out what.
[07:52] <BluesKaj> this reminds me of Yast in Suse ...had broken pkges all the time ...din't matter what  :)
[07:52] <fairman> intelikey: right click - select open with - remember - it write "saving configuration" but it is still bad
[07:52] <intelikey> HailandKill close adept and do# sudo apt-get install libpq4-dev       so you can read the error message
[07:53] <intelikey> fairman hmm odd.   i guess you need to get with someone that uses kde.
[07:53] <intelikey> BluesKaj if updating the database broke things then the sources.list is in error.
[07:55] <NeonLightning> i installed totem-gstreamer and gstreamer-0.8-dvd and totem keeps telling me that i don't have the plugins to play a dvd any suggestions?
[07:55] <intelikey> fairman iirc you can open konqueror and menu settings configure konqueror     then in that window look at and/or edit file associations
[07:55] <sleepy495> how do I activate compiz?
[07:56] <HailandKill> intelikey, http://pastebin.com/854462
[07:56] <dwidmann> !dvdcss | neonlightning
[07:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvdcss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:56] <intelikey> !dvd
[07:56] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:56] <dwidmann> Yes. That.
[07:57] <BluesKaj> yeah intelikey , it's the official edgy list ...is it flawed ?
[07:57] <fairman> intelikey: Still wrong, i add "exe" and default applicaton wine (Wine Window Emulator) -> saving configuration but ....
[07:57] <intelikey> BluesKaj wouldn't suprise me.
[07:58] <BluesKaj> ok
[07:58] <intelikey> HailandKill is that an upgrade from dapper to edgy you are running ?
[07:58] <HailandKill> intelikey, straight dapper install.
[07:59] <intelikey> HailandKill oh sorry meant breezy to dapper anyway.
[07:59] <intelikey> that's odd.     oh wait.   you don't have updates
[07:59] <BluesKaj> well, i's not really abig bother ...apt does update ok , it's not blocked ...synaptic just tells me  there's a broken pkg whenever i open it , but I can still install other pkgs
[08:00] <intelikey> i think i know what it is HailandKill   what was the url to your sources.list again ?
[08:01] <HailandKill> intelikey http://pastebin.com/854433
[08:02] <intelikey> HailandKill ok
[08:04] <intelikey> copy yours to a safe place or name  and try putting that one in /etc/apt/   and do this#   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:05] <intelikey> then see if you don't have much better luck with it.     the problem is that the updates which ubuntu has issued has changed the dependancies on some packages.   that's why it installed ok for me but you got errors.
[08:07] <student> hi
[08:08] <revolution27> hey guys, firefox is installed but it's not in my applications menu. How can I get it there?
[08:08] <student> it should be under internet
[08:08] <revolution27> yeh but it's not
[08:08] <student> really?.....
[08:08] <student> can you locate it with konqueror?
[08:08] <student> or a file manager?
[08:09] <revolution27> i could before... now i can't
[08:09] <revolution27> but i can run it by typing firefox
[08:09] <student> hmm
[08:09] <student> right click ur bar, hit add application, and try typing in the name
[08:10] <BluesKaj> interesting error here .. "subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 2"
[08:11] <BluesKaj> pre-removal script?
[08:11] <revolution27> that works
[08:11] <student> does anyone here know how to configure wireless internet?
[08:11] <student> i have an airport card
[08:11] <revolution27> but hot do i get the icon?
[08:11] <BluesKaj> bbl, finally got some snow to push :)
[08:12] <intelikey> BluesKaj yeah located in /var/lib/dpkg/info/<packagename>.prerm
[08:12] <intelikey> BluesKaj most packages have  prerm postrm  preinst and postinst  scripts.
[08:13] <intelikey> oh and a .list  that is a record of what the package.deb actually installed.
[08:17] <frojnd> Hawkwind by anc chance here?
[08:17] <frojnd> any
[08:18] <intelikey> Hawkwind your phone is ringing.
[08:18] <intelikey> frojnd i haven't seen him say anything in a while.
[08:19] <intelikey> hours
[08:19] <frojnd> hm
[08:19] <frojnd> :)
[08:21] <frojnd> nevermind HawkWind...
[08:23] <Hawkwind> frojnd: ??
[08:24] <frojnd> I had some problems with avidemux and I somehow connected with moive apocalypto (iMBT) and that u might have seen it...
[08:25] <Hawkwind> Ummm, nope.  Not my type of movie at all.  What made you think of me and that movie together ?
[08:25] <frojnd> ScT :)
[08:26] <goeki> j
[08:28] <Hawkwind> Nope, haven't seen it and probably won't
[08:30] <frojnd> I just got a thought nothing more :)
[08:36] <murat> hi
[08:37] <murat> does anybody installed scorched3d ?
[08:38] <vge> !skype
[08:38] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[08:38] <HailandKill> intelikey That has seemed to have fixed it. Thanks very much!
[08:38] <revolution27> everytime i type qtparted into adept it closes, why?
[08:38] <xHerr4> hello!
[08:38] <vge> someone can tell me how to enter "enter" -key in skype chat?
[08:39] <xHerr4> did have a people that can to install a tar.gz program??
[08:39] <xHerr4> help!
[08:39] <xHerr4> helppppppppppp!!!
[08:40] <Dasnipa`> did have a people that can to install?
[08:40] <Dasnipa`> wtf
[08:43] <fdoving> xHerr4: have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[08:43] <K`zan> what does one need to play flash in firefox, so far tried swf-player and flashplayer-mozilla, do I need the non-free one?  TIA!
[08:43] <xHerr4> ok thank you!
[08:43] <fdoving> !flash9 | k`zan
[08:43] <ubotu> k`zan: flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[08:44] <K`zan> fdoving: Thanks, checing it out now.
[08:44] <xHerr4> euh...
[08:44] <xHerr4> dou you have it in french??
[08:44] <Dasnipa`> !fr
[08:44] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:44] <K`zan> !backports
[08:44] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[08:44] <xHerr4> ok thank
[08:49] <K`zan> ubotu: added: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-backports main universe multiverse restricted and did the update and still no flash9 found?!?
[08:49] <nalioth> K`zan: flash 9 isn't in the reops
[08:50] <nalioth> !tell K`zan about flash
[08:50] <K`zan> fdoving: added: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-backports main universe multiverse restricted and did the update and still no flash9 found?!?
[08:51] <K`zan> !tell K`zan about flash
[08:51] <nalioth> K`zan: look for private messages
[08:51] <K`zan> nalioth: I'm doing something wrong here :-/
[08:53] <nalioth> !flash
[08:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:53] <nalioth> K`zan: ^^^
[08:55] <K`zan> nalioth: seems to be for older versions than edgy :-(.
[08:55] <K`zan> nalioth: Got things I have to go do, will look into it a bit later.
[08:59] <jann> hi, does anybody have experience with the skype plugin for kopete (http://extragear.kde.org/apps/kopete%20skype/). i'd like to use it but cant find it in the repositories. i downloaded the file but dont know what to do now. thanks.
[08:59] <zorglu_> !feisty
[08:59] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[09:06] <cpk1> hrmm are you supposed to unmount a camera before you unplug it?
[09:06] <cloakable> Ja
[09:06] <cloakable> Yep
[09:08] <cpk1> hmm i dont think i see it in mount...
[09:08] <TurnTheOtherWay> hmm first time irc. plenty here, anyone help me with install probs?
[09:09] <xeen7_7> Somebody here knows how to install EMC ? it is the programm for CNC-Coding
[09:10] <ronald_> k
[09:10] <cpk1> TurnTheOtherWay: whats wrong?
[09:11] <TurnTheOtherWay> yknow theres a desktop screen before it lets you install?
[09:11] <TurnTheOtherWay> tryout kinda thing
[09:12] <cpk1> and...?
[09:12] <marcolinux> ragazzi sono l'unico a star impazzendo con linux?
[09:13] <TurnTheOtherWay> the desktop doesnt load it just turns into a screen of coloured bars and flashes
[09:13] <marcolinux> hello!
[09:13] <fdoving> !it | marcolinux
[09:13] <ubotu> marcolinux: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:13] <rindolf> Hi all.
[09:14] <rindolf> Can anyone try to reproduce this bug with KDE 3.5.5? http://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=27999 . One has to set the windows style to Keramik and use it with FocusFollowsMouse.
[09:17] <TurnTheOtherWay_> argh connection reset. now my timed out self is here
[09:18] <php-freak> hey guys how can i view all devices that are installed on my usb drivers
[09:19] <cpk1> TurnTheOtherWay_: try starting in vga mode
[09:19] <KaiserSuse> php-freak: lsusb
[09:20] <cpk1> TurnTheOtherWay_: you have an nvidia?
[09:20] <TurnTheOtherWay_> yes
[09:20] <TurnTheOtherWay_> how do you start in vga?
[09:20] <KaiserSuse> php-freak: on second thought... I don't really understand yer question
[09:20] <php-freak> Bus 004 Device 012: ID 0711:0900 Magic Control Technology Corp. SVGA Adapter
[09:20] <php-freak> well its saying its there
[09:21] <php-freak> im trying to get that working
[09:21] <php-freak> its for dual screen monitor support
[09:21] <cpk1> TurnTheOtherWay_: are you on the computer you are trying to install linux on right now? if you start in safe mode i think you can switch to tty1 and you will get a fine screen
[09:22] <cpk1> i cant remember the command to start in vga
[09:22] <php-freak> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16812203013 well read this right here under linux
[09:22] <php-freak> says it works with linux
[09:22] <zorglu_> hmm a vga via usb ? i miss something, i mean usb bus is not fast enought to send the content of the vga.. no ?
[09:23] <php-freak> Pros: Works with the sisusb driver for 2.6.x kernels and sisusb x.org driver. Works great out of the box with SuSE 10.1
[09:23] <php-freak> 2.0 is
[09:23] <TurnTheOtherWay_> cpk1: im on that comp, yes. you mean start in safe mode in kubuntu install?
[09:24] <TurnTheOtherWay_> cpk1: also, whats tty1?
[09:24] <cpk1> TurnTheOtherWay_: yes and then switch to tty1 (press ctl alt f1)
[09:24] <cpk1> hopefully you will get a clear picture
[09:25] <php-freak> any one know how i can get this to work? with that driver?
[09:25] <cpk1> and then you will need to use the command line to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:25] <TurnTheOtherWay_> cpk1: ill try that first part, thanks. but why the conf file?
[09:25] <cpk1> TurnTheOtherWay_: but, there should be a way to start in vga (iirc safemode is supposed to but it doesnt in edgy)
[09:26] <cpk1> TurnTheOtherWay_: when you get to all the boot options from the cd there is also some help text, read through that and see if there is a vga option
[09:26] <zorglu_> well i was wrong apparently vga via usb is possible :)
[09:26] <TurnTheOtherWay_> cpk1: vga wouldnt be necessary if tty1 works?
[09:27] <php-freak> hey guys do you know how I can get this to work http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16812203013 well read this right here under linux
[09:27] <cpk1> TurnTheOtherWay_: if tty1 works then you will still need to make sure X is using vga
[09:27] <cpk1> TurnTheOtherWay_: once you get it installed you wont need vga anymore though dont worry =)
[09:28] <intelikey> have oddity.   pt_chown: needs to be installed setuid `root'
[09:28] <intelikey> Cannot chmod /dev/ttyp0 to 620 currently 666: Operation not permitted
[09:28] <TurnTheOtherWay_> cpk1: X? also, why would vga be required (and are these messages being sent only between us?)
[09:28] <intelikey> but if i chmod that to 620 then the error  cant chmod to 666  comes up   why all the chmoding ?
 cpk1: X? also, why would vga be required (and are these
[09:29] <intelikey>                    messages being sent only between us?)
[09:29] <cpk1> TurnTheOtherWay_: everyone can see these, and i dunno why vga is required but every *buntu install I have done my nvidia card always has problems and I have had to install in vga mode
[09:31] <cpk1> TurnTheOtherWay_: if you get to tty1 though then you will need to do "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and then look for Section "Device" and change here: Driver         "nvidia" change the nvidia to vga
[09:31] <TurnTheOtherWay_> cpk!: so they can lol. the addressing just sends to freenode too. ill try those things thanks
[09:31] <TurnTheOtherWay_> cpk1: sudo nano?
[09:31] <cpk1> unless someone else (intelikey maybe?) knows how to start in vga from the edgy install cd
[09:32] <intelikey> !irc | TurnTheOtherWay_
[09:32] <ubotu> TurnTheOtherWay_: irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[09:32] <cpk1> TurnTheOtherWay_: sudo makes you do a command as root and nano is a very user friendly text editor
[09:32] <intelikey> the last url ^
[09:32] <revolution27> hey, anyone know any free software similiar to garageband or frooty loops?
[09:33] <intelikey> !guidelines
[09:33] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:33] <revolution27> was that for me?
[09:34] <TurnTheOtherWay_> thanks intel. first timer lol. and thanks cpk ill try those out... now wheres my cd?
[09:34] <intelikey> heh for one and all
[09:34] <revolution27> lol
[09:34] <intelikey> TurnTheOtherWay_ yeah i gathered that.
[09:35] <cpk1> TurnTheOtherWay_: hopefully that works for you, if you cant get to tty1 then read the help provided on the cd at the boot options menu and see if there are any options you can do from there
[09:35] <TurnTheOtherWay_> cpk1: alright ty. just need to copy down instructs before i boot cd lol
[09:35] <cpk1> and hopefully you wrote this stuff down =P
[09:36] <TurnTheOtherWay_> one step ahead of ya :p
[09:36] <intelikey> revolution27 searching the package database for those key words draws a blank.
[09:36] <cpk1> i'm going to be gone for several hours though so hopefully this works =)
[09:36] <TurnTheOtherWay_> lol if it doesnt i hope theres someone around :s
[09:36] <intelikey> there's always someone around.
[09:37] <cpk1> TurnTheOtherWay_: and dont worry about having to install in vga, once i installed I was able to get the nvidia drivers installed and dont have any problems with it
[09:37] <TurnTheOtherWay_> oh one more general thing anyone. does kubuntu have GRUB?
[09:37] <intelikey> yes
[09:38] <TurnTheOtherWay_> and does it add in other OS's automatically?
[09:38] <TurnTheOtherWay_> or is manualadd necessary?
[09:38] <intelikey> grub is the default boot loader.  and it does a pretty good job of adding other (M$) os's
[09:39] <intelikey> not as good with other *nix os's   but that is to be expected.
[09:39] <desync> grub automatically added my winxp install on my 2nd drive, and make my 2nd drive look like it's the only drive so xp boots as if nothing changed
[09:40] <intelikey> with linux you can name your kernel anything and put it anywhere, which makes it a little more tricky to autodetect
[09:40] <php-freak> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16812203013 does any one know how to get this to work, it said it wors with linux?
[09:41] <php-freak> I have xp drivers setting here, but no linux drives
[09:42] <php-freak> http://www.strotmann.de/twiki/bin/view/Microusb/UsbDevices also says linux driver exist here too
[09:42] <revolution27> hey, (i dunno if this is even legal but) does anyone know how to get amarok to play music purchased from itunes?
[09:43] <revolution27> the format seems to be m4p
[09:43] <intelikey> !mp3
[09:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:43] <TurnTheOtherWay_> m4p is itunes pprotected :/
[09:43] <zorglu_> http://www.winischhofer.at/linuxsisusbvga.shtml <- php-freak
[09:44] <intelikey> if the answer is not there then i have no clue ^
[09:44] <revolution27> yeh m4p is protected.. but i'll look it up
[09:44] <revolution27> i hate itunes for that
[09:44] <php-freak> hehe
[09:44] <TurnTheOtherWay_> an m4p won't run with anything else as far as i know
[09:44] <php-freak> zorglu: is this it?
[09:44] <intelikey> TurnTheOtherWay_ ah you mean legal hateware.
[09:45] <intelikey> nice.  who would pay for such a thing ?
[09:45] <zorglu_> php-freak: what do you mean ? it explain exactly how to plug your stuff
[09:45] <revolution27> that's a good way t odescribe it ;)
[09:45] <TurnTheOtherWay_> anyone who wants music from itunes
[09:45] <revolution27> i got gift cards, that's why
[09:45] <TurnTheOtherWay_> who has one of thsoe little cards
[09:45] <TurnTheOtherWay_> yeah
[09:45] <php-freak> zorglu: lol, but I mean this should fix it, this is what i need right?
[09:45] <peryska> q es esto?
[09:46] <TurnTheOtherWay_> and in itunes, they even label songs with nice big EXPLICIT signs
[09:46] <peryska> hola a todo/asa
[09:46] <TurnTheOtherWay_> unremovable ofcourse
[09:46] <php-freak> zorglu: sorry i might of confused you
[09:46] <zorglu_> php-freak: i think so. the original page say it is a sisusb. and the page i gave you is for sisusb
[09:46] <intelikey> your money man.  not my problem.  sorry i mentioned it.
[09:46] <zorglu_> !tag | php-freak
[09:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tag - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:46] <zorglu_> !tab | php-freak
[09:46] <ubotu> php-freak: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[09:47] <peryska> ok
[09:47] <php-freak> k
[09:47] <revolution27> anyone know an itunes replacement that accepts international credit cards? I don't think so
[09:47] <intelikey> by choice.
[09:47] <TurnTheOtherWay_> lol yes enough of this i have kubntu to install. have fun everyone
[09:47] <php-freak> zorglu_: is there a way my current onboard video card I can make it where it will have higher resolution?
[09:47] <php-freak> maybe just by a little bit
[09:48] <zorglu_> php-freak: i dont understand your question, can you rephrase
[09:48] <peryska> agur a todos
[09:48] <intelikey> !resolution | php-freak
[09:48] <ubotu> php-freak: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:48] <peryska> voy a informarme un poco de esto
[09:48] <peryska> lo siento
[09:48] <zorglu_> !es | peryska
[09:48] <ubotu> peryska: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:49] <peryska> gracias
[09:49] <peryska> esto es interesante
[09:49] <peryska> gracias
[09:50] <php-freak> 
[09:50] <php-freak> This driver is only provided in source code. This source code compiles under Linux 2.6.9 and newer kernels. 2.4
[09:50] <php-freak> how can i tell if my nix matches that?
[09:50] <intelikey> it does
[09:50] <zorglu_> "uname -a" will give you the version of kernel you got
[09:50] <intelikey> but to answer your Q    uname -a
[09:50] <zorglu_> which is higher than '2.6.9'
[09:51] <zorglu_> aka 'it does' :)
[09:52] <php-freak>  2.6.17-10
[09:52] <php-freak> will it work?
[09:53] <zorglu_> .17 is higher than .9
[09:53] <zorglu_>  This source code compiles under Linux 2.6.9 and newer kernels.  <- from what you pasted
[09:53] <peryska> no entiendo nada
[09:53] <php-freak> man
[09:53] <php-freak> so it won't work?
[09:53] <peryska> agur
[09:54] <zorglu_> peryska: here we speak english and most of us dont understand what you are saying :0
[09:54] <php-freak> zorglu: can you help me with this, im tottaly lost
[09:54] <zorglu_> php-freak: ????
[09:54] <php-freak> get this installed
[09:54] <intelikey> php-freak back to my first answer to "<php-freak> how can i tell if my nix matches that?"    "<intelikey> it does"
[09:54] <zorglu_> php-freak: well .17 is newer than .9
[09:54] <zorglu_> but clearly to compile a kernel will be painfull for you
[09:55] <php-freak> yea
[09:55] <zorglu_> hmm maybe you can compile only the module tho :)
[09:55] <php-freak> how can i get this done
[09:55] <php-freak> yea
[09:55] <php-freak> zorlglu_: will you help me please?
[09:55] <zorglu_> sorry no time
[10:00] <BluesKaj> intelikey, I went to the clamav site and was able follow their instructions for reinstalling clamav successfully..then i just removed it
[10:01] <intelikey> cool.
[10:01] <intelikey> i started to install it just to see what it was... hehhe
[10:02] <BluesKaj> pita is what it is
[10:02] <intelikey> you should see the way people act when you say "i dont have antivirus software"      then they really phr33k out when you say "and no firewall"   :)
[10:03] <BluesKaj> yeah  :)
[10:04] <intelikey> and when i say something like last install was over a year ago and not one crash.....    :)
[10:04] <esaym> anyone know of a replacement for the windows version of angry ip scanner http://www.angryziber.com/ipscan/
[10:04] <BluesKaj> i'm behind a router so I just use avg on my windows partition
[10:04] <esaym> I really miss an app like that in linux
[10:05] <intelikey> BluesKaj but i get the same looks from people in here when i say "i don't have any partitions"   so i guess it's all in what you are used to.
[10:06] <brett__> what is a good ftp program for linux
[10:07] <BluesKaj> well intelikey, I'm not quite "there" yet but i will be soon ...once i get tovid and todisc cli commands figured out and working I'l prolly kiss the NTFS partition goodbye
[10:07] <intelikey> esaym   nessus - Remote network security auditor, the client  &  nessusd - Remote network security auditor, the server         +     nmapfe - The Network Mapper Front End
[10:07] <cntb> please join kubuntu torrent download http://cargol.net/~ramon/ubuntu-dvd-en
[10:08] <intelikey> !spam | cntb
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <intelikey> hmmm didn't that used to work.
[10:08] <intelikey> anyway   don't spam the channel
[10:09] <esaym> hmm
[10:09] <brett__> does anyone know any ftp programs for linux?
[10:09] <esaym> can nmap scan ranges?
[10:10] <intelikey> esaym there are a lot more apps  it all depends on what you want to do.
[10:10] <intelikey> ranges of ip's or ranges of ports ?
[10:10] <esaym> just something quick and easy
[10:10] <TurnTheOtherWay> intelikey: know anything about nano?
[10:10] <esaym> just scanning 1 or 2 ports on a netrange
[10:10] <fdoving> cntb: around?
[10:10] <intelikey> yeah TurnTheOtherWay   ^ means hold the ctrl key down
[10:11] <esaym> like scan 192.168.0.0-1192.168.255.255 for open port 80
[10:11] <TurnTheOtherWay> ahhh isee
[10:12] <intelikey> esaym yes   but you might need to use it cli to get that out of it.   the nmapfe  fe=frontend a gui
[10:12] <TurnTheOtherWay> intelikey: tried to edit xorg but couldnt use the ^ lol so couldnt install. its a little confusing lol.
[10:13] <TurnTheOtherWay> esaym: what makes you want to scan for open ports lol?
[10:13] <esaym> check for servers when I get on a new network
[10:13] <intelikey> TurnTheOtherWay yes they could have made the help pages a little easier to find    of course hitting f1 is kinda a criptic way to access help
[10:14] <esaym> what is cli?
[10:14] <intelikey> !cli
[10:14] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:14] <TurnTheOtherWay> i couldnt find anything useful in the helps
[10:14] <esaym> oh rofl
[10:14] <carlos> quick question. how do I unlock my /var/lib/dpkg ?
[10:14] <bbeck_> I just installed nvidia-glx, and it replaced my smp kernel with a non-smp kernel.  Is there a way that I can have nvidia drivers and use an smp kernel?
[10:14] <fdoving> !adept crash fix | carlos
[10:14] <ubotu> carlos: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[10:14] <K`zan> !nvidia drivers
[10:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:14] <intelikey> TurnTheOtherWay in nano   hit [f1] 
[10:14] <K`zan> !nvidia-drivers
[10:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia-drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:14] <K`zan> !nvidia_drivers
[10:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia_drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:14] <esaym> can nmap scan ip ranges?
[10:15] <BluesKaj> CLI - Command Line Interface or terminal or konsole or console :)
[10:15] <carlos> thanks fdoving !1
[10:15] <esaym> i have knmap
[10:15] <fdoving> you're welcome carlos.
[10:15] <carlos> thanks ubotu
[10:15] <intelikey> !ati | K`zan
[10:15] <ubotu> K`zan: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:15] <BluesKaj> !ati/nvidia
[10:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ati/nvidia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:15] <TurnTheOtherWay> intelikey ahh i see. thanks intel.
[10:16] <TurnTheOtherWay> !vga
[10:16] <intelikey> K`zan also !nvidia  is the same infonode.
[10:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vga - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:16] <BluesKaj> !svga
[10:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about svga - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:16] <TurnTheOtherWay> !xorg
[10:16] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:16] <BluesKaj> hehe..dumb bot
[10:16] <intelikey> TurnTheOtherWay no problemo
[10:16] <intelikey> de nada
[10:17] <TurnTheOtherWay> useful little bot
[10:17] <TurnTheOtherWay> !sda3
[10:17] <intelikey> !bot
[10:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sda3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:17] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:17] <TurnTheOtherWay> lol
[10:17] <esaym> ok nmap can scan ranges
[10:18] <TurnTheOtherWay> *goes to install kubuntu again*
[10:18] <intelikey> yes and regex is as handy as a pocket on a shirt.
[10:18] <intelikey> man regex
[10:20] <intelikey> ok back around after last rounds.
[10:20] <look> HI
[10:22] <revolution27> for anyone who want's to know how to convert protected m4p files to unprotected m4a files (to allow itunes purchased music to be played anywhere) goto http://www.hymn-project.org/download.php )
[10:22] <revolution27> It should be legal if you bought and own the music
[10:23] <K`zan> I need access to restricted repositories and the howto doesn't say what that is, does that mean: "main restricted " (which I have, but no nvidia binary driver) ?
[10:24] <ftld> what command tells me how much of a volume is in use?
[10:24] <ftld> what command tells me how full a volume is?
[10:24] <K`zan> also no "Restricted copyright" box in manage repositories ?!?
[10:25] <K`zan> Ah, synaptic....
[10:25] <Jucato> K`zan: restricted is already enabled by default
[10:26] <ftld> err, i didn't mean to say that twice in here
[10:26] <ftld> oh well
[10:27] <K`zan> Jucato: THanks, now to figure out why it can't find the nvidia drivers, going to load synaptic and see if that finds it.
[10:27] <Jucato> nvidia-glx?
[10:27] <K`zan> Jucato: Not sure, always downloaded and installed the drivers from the nvidia site in gentoo...
[10:27] <SSJ> ftld:Try "df"
[10:28] <Jucato> K`zan: that's the name of the nvidia package
[10:28] <Jucato> SSJ: df shows you the amount of free disk space... (Disk Free)
[10:28] <K`zan> Ah, OK, thanks Jucato !  Checking now.
[10:29] <K`zan> Jucato: Don't think so :-(: These XFree86 4.x/X.Org binary drivers provide optimized hardware acceleration
[10:29] <K`zan> looking for nvidia, not xorg drivers.
[10:29] <Jucato> ??
[10:29] <Jucato> !nvidia-glx
[10:29] <ubotu> nvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.8776+2.6.17.6-1 (edgy), package size 3970 kB, installed size 12312 kB
[10:30] <K`zan> Jucato: That is what it says about nvidia-glx
[10:30] <Jucato> and?
[10:30] <K`zan> Ah, OK, RTFM :-) NVIDIA binary :)
[10:30] <Linux_Galore> hai Jucato
[10:31] <Jucato> hi
[10:31] <K`zan> Jucato: I took that to be xorg drivers...
[10:31] <Jucato> :)
[10:31] <K`zan> Jucato: New to debian (again :-).
[10:31] <K`zan> Jucato: Been running gentoo for the past few years...
[10:31] <Linux_Galore> K`zan: the nv driver is usually supplied with the xorg package
[10:32] <K`zan> Linux_Galore: Yes, but that one leaves MUCH to be desired :-).
[10:32] <Linux_Galore> K`zan: I know, blame nvidia for lack of documentation
[10:32] <K`zan> Linux_Galore: I do indeed...
[10:33] <K`zan> I also need kernel source for something (I installed 64 bit and too many apps I want / need do not run under it, so I am transitioning to 32bit).
[10:33] <Linux_Galore> wish Intel made a decent graphics drivers, i965 even though having a open source driver with 3d still lacks allot
[10:34] <K`zan> Linux_Galore: I will not touch anything intel puts out if I can avoid it :-/.
[10:34] <Linux_Galore> s/drivers/chipsets/
[10:36] <K`zan> ok, lemme reboot the beast and see if it worked, brb.
[10:39] <BluesKaj> Linux_Galore, bad windoze habit
[10:40] <Linux_Galore> K`zan: you know you dont have to reboot to load the driver
[10:40] <HailandKill> Too late
[10:40] <K`zan> Linux_Galore: Always have in the past - no nvidia splash screen, I don't think this is what I wanted... checking.
[10:41] <CVirus> K`zan: why did you move away from Gentoo ?
[10:41] <K`zan> Linux_Galore: Nope it isn't: Driver          "nv"
[10:41] <Linux_Galore> K`zan: just log out then press press ctrl alt backspace   that reloads the x server and the "driver"
[10:41] <Jucato> K`zan: did you run "sudo nvidia-xconfig" already?
[10:41] <K`zan> CVirus: Pissing matches are killing it and apps I need are no longer in portage.
[10:42] <Jucato> or "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"?
[10:42] <CVirus> pissing matches ?
[10:42] <K`zan> Jucato: No, but will to see what happens.
[10:42] <Jucato> K`zan: then no wonder your driver is still nv
[10:42] <CVirus> portage almost contains everything
[10:42] <Jucato> !nvidia | K`zan
[10:42] <ubotu> K`zan: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:42] <K`zan> CVirus: People to whom being important is more important than gentoos wellbeing.
[10:43] <Jucato> K`zan: you also need to install the linux-restricted-modules that matches the kernel you are using
[10:43] <Jucato> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[10:43] <K`zan> Jucato: That seems to have changed the xorg.conf, restarting x, brb
[10:44] <Jucato> hm.. did he install the restricted modules already?
[10:44] <K`zan> That got it, thanks MUCH all!
[10:45] <K`zan> crap, the url for the nvidia binary driver howto didn't survive the restart, again please?
[10:46] <Jucato> doesn't matter if you got it working already :)
[10:46] <binks> hi i installed pyqt and qt4 designer but it doesnt show up in development menu how do i start it
[10:47] <BluesKaj> K 'zan  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:47] <K`zan> Jucato: Was just concerned that there might be something else I needed to run besides the xorg.conf update thing you gave me.
[10:48] <Jucato> !nvidia | K`zan
[10:48] <ubotu> K`zan: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:48] <K`zan> BluesKaj: Thanks much!
[10:48] <K`zan> Jucato: you too :-).
[10:51] <BluesKaj> K`zan, np :)
[10:52] <jpiccolo> a new version a feisty is out?
[10:53] <Riddell> ** Kubuntu meeting in 10 minutes in #ubuntu-meeting
[10:54] <Jucato> jpiccolo: none yet, afaik.
[10:54] <Jucato> Herd 2 isn't out yet
[10:54] <jpiccolo> i am running herd 1
[10:55] <jpiccolo> and when i goto update it says "A new version of Kubuntu is available! Click next if you wish to upgrade now."
[10:56] <jpiccolo> i click next and adept update manager dies
[10:56] <bobleny> Is there some kind of documentation for kubuntu's terminal commands?
[10:57] <fdoving> !cli | bobleny
[10:57] <ubotu> bobleny: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:57] <bobleny> cli!?
[10:58] <Jucato> Command Line Interface
[10:58] <jpiccolo> cli is the terminal
[10:58] <jpiccolo> ^
[10:58] <bobleny> Oh
[10:58] <bobleny> Is there a diffrence in commands from ubuntu to kubuntu?
[10:59] <jpiccolo> not really
[10:59] <Jucato> none
[10:59] <bobleny> you say that like there is?
[10:59] <bobleny> ok
[10:59] <Jucato> except when you are talking about specific apps
[10:59] <jpiccolo> well i mean some programs will have different names
[10:59] <bobleny> oh
[10:59] <bobleny> No big deal there
[10:59] <jpiccolo> yeah
[11:00] <TheGateKeeper> bobbyd, ubuntu & kubuntu are the same distro using different desktops
[11:01] <bobleny> Is there a way to password protect files in your home folder?
[11:02] <LjL> bobleny: encrypt them
[11:02] <bobleny> How do I do that?
[11:02] <matthias> hi
[11:02] <matthias> how do i select wish java jre i want to use?
[11:02] <matthias> i know that there was anything with dpkg but i dont know what
[11:03] <LjL> !kgpg | bobleny
[11:03] <ubotu> kgpg: GnuPG frontend for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 445 kB, installed size 1404 kB
[11:04] <bobleny> k
[11:05] <bobleny> thanks (8-)
[11:05] <josh_> i have superkaramba runnin
[11:05] <josh_> how do i get the docks to see my cpu temp and fan rpm's
[11:06] <josh_> i have an nforce 430 chipset
[11:06] <matthias> or was it sth like update-alternatives?
[11:06] <matthias> i got it on my own: update-alternatives --config java
[11:08] <BluesKaj> what's the best way to upgrade the JRE version over the one in the repos ?
[11:08] <Dasnipa`> BluesKaj, download it?
[11:09] <BluesKaj> trying the deb pkg download din't work ...it caused an installer prob
[11:09] <josh_> www.getautomatix.com
[11:09] <josh_> has all the drivers/software you need for that kind of stuff
[11:09] <josh_> adobe reader, p2p clients
[11:09] <BluesKaj> no josh_, automatix isn't for me... not a good excperience
[11:09] <josh_> java/flash for firefox
[11:10] <josh_> really?
[11:10] <BluesKaj> broken pkgs
[11:10] <Dasnipa`> BluesKaj, just download the installer from java
[11:11] <TheGateKeeper> BluesKaj, you got synaptic installed?
[11:11] <Dasnipa`> BluesKaj, i went and aliased it to a different name so when i want to run 1.5 i run with java5 and and 1.4 is just java
[11:11] <josh_> oh
[11:11] <josh_> ok well can someone help me with the sensors
[11:12] <josh_> i want to monitor cpu and fan
[11:13] <Jucato> BluesKaj: what installer problem?
[11:14] <BluesKaj> Dasnipa`, I wish it was that easy ...I had probs with it not having the right dependencies previously installed
[11:15] <BluesKaj> anyway, I'm at a site that seems to be what i need helpwise...thx anyway
[11:15] <Croupier> hi there
[11:16] <Tido> what package do I need to connect to subversion as a client?
[11:16] <LjL> Tido: subversion
[11:16] <LjL> or if you want a GUI too
[11:17] <LjL> !kdesdk-kio-plugins
[11:17] <LjL> !kdesvn
[11:17] <ubotu> kdesdk-kio-plugins: subversion ioslave for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 435 kB, installed size 880 kB
[11:17] <ubotu> kdesvn: subversion client with tight KDE integration. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.5-1 (edgy), package size 1405 kB, installed size 3304 kB
[11:17] <farkr> i have a dual boot system (win2000/linux) and win2k only supports up to 32gb fat32 partitions. do you think it would work to make two 32gb fat32 partitions so i can use one for my music and one for my movies?
[11:18] <fxr> hello can i ask a question?
[11:18] <Lynoure> !ask
[11:18] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:18] <fxr> does anyone know if this how-to should work for my radeon 9600se: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[11:18] <Dasnipa`> farkr, it isnt windows that only supports fat32 up to 32 gb its a restriction on the filesystem itself
[11:19] <farkr> i thought fat32 goes up to 2 TB
[11:19] <Dasnipa`> farkr, wtf crack are you on?
[11:19] <farkr> it said it on the msdn site
[11:20] <Dasnipa`> fat16 could do, 4 gb if i recall... fat32 brought that number to 32
[11:20] <Dasnipa`> maybe ntfs is the 2tb one
[11:20] <zeekstarr> I've been having a problem not being able to download files bigger than 4.3 gig, something about thats the biggest file allowed on my fat32 ( I dual boot as well)
[11:20] <farkr> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/154997
[11:20] <farkr> FAT32 supports drives up to 2 terabytes in size.
[11:20] <farkr> NOTE: Microsoft Windows 2000 only supports FAT32 partitions up to a size of 32 GB.
[11:21] <LeeJunFan> XP as well
[11:21] <LeeJunFan> of course
[11:21] <Jucato> yes, but file sizes in FAT32 are limited to 4GB afaik
[11:21] <farkr> 2gb i think
[11:21] <LeeJunFan> yeah, 2
[11:21] <zeekstarr> what can I do to allow bigger file sizes. i can't download dvd isos right now
[11:22] <Dasnipa`> farkr, i dont think thats quite accurate in the article
[11:22] <Jucato> oh there, 2GB :)
[11:23] <farkr> anyways my question was is making multiple 32gb fat32 partitions the best solution so i can still read/write my data from win2k?
[11:24] <x86> why not use ntfs and some open source NTFS linux drivers?
[11:24] <LeeJunFan> zeekstarr: use a different filesystem.
[11:24] <farkr> x86 too dangerous
[11:24] <Chousuke> iirc there is an ext2 driver for win2k
[11:24] <farkr> since i have no other way to backup
[11:25] <farkr> those are only good for read only, not writing, they corrupt things
[11:25] <x86> yeah there are ext2 and ext3 drivers for windows :)
[11:25] <zeekstarr> LeeJunFan: Yea I knew that much, but I need a fat32 so I can dual boot XP and Kubuntu and share my 250gig hd between them
[11:25] <farkr> those things corrupted me is the reason im lookin for a fat32 solution right now ;0
[11:25] <Dasnipa`> farkr, yes i found it. actually the most recent version of fat32 supports 8 TB while yes the max filesize is still 4 gigs
[11:26] <zeekstarr> is that a setting that perhaps could be changed in partition magic (boot up)?
[11:28] <LeeJunFan> zeekstarr: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[11:29] <zeekstarr> I've already got gigs upon gigs of files ont his fat32
[11:31] <LeeJunFan> zeekstarr: don't know what to tell you FAT32 isn't going to hold dvd iso's. You could possibly use windows XP to convert Fat32 to ntfs and use a fuse base ntfs fs driver which allows r/w for the linux use.
[11:31] <LeeJunFan> !fuse
[11:31] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[11:31] <LeeJunFan> I don't know how unsafe it is - I've used it a bit w/o any problems.
[11:32] <JosefK> is there any way to have the bookmarks toolbar only show in the Web View profile of konqueror?
[11:32] <TheDebugger> How about ntfs-3g?
[11:33] <Jucato> JosefK: unfortunately, no
[11:33] <JosefK> Jucato: alas, this seems like a serious flaw.  I'll check to see if I can hack it into the config files by hand
[11:34] <Jucato> JosefK: good luck. but afaik, no amount of config hacking answers that
[11:34] <Jucato> it's really in the code. a *gasp* limitation of Konqueror
[11:35] <JosefK> crikey :/
[11:36] <silya> Hi all! There is many mistakes in russian translation in kubuntu 6.10 :/ Who coordiantes it?
[11:37] <K`zan> Silya if you know Russian, get involved and help fix it!
[11:40] <daveyarusso> I have an odd disk issue.  I had two partitions, deleted one (using GParted on an Ubuntu Live CD), and then grew the first into the space.  Now, I seem to have an 11 GB _partition_, but only a 5.4 GB filesystem (same as it had before on the first).  How do I fix it?
[11:42] <hassan2a> hello
[11:42] <hassan2a> who playing to enemy territory ?
[11:46] <JosefK> no dice with the config files, there are keys for Hidden etc. for each of the toolbars, but konqueror just ignores them
[11:46] <JosefK> it must be stored somewhere else, but wherever it is isn't in .kde/share/apps/konqueror
[11:47] <lupine_85> daveyarusso: run resize2fs on it?
[11:47] <daveyarusso> lupine_85: Works for ext3 as well as ext2 presumably?
[11:47] <lupine_85> you can do online resizing into a larger partition, so you don't need to be in a live cd to do so
[11:47] <lupine_85> yeah, works fine
[11:47] <nixternal> !ops
[11:47] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato or DBO
[11:47] <lupine_85> just sudo resize2fs devicefile
[11:48] <gnomefreak> .opme
[11:48] <fdoving> hm?
[11:48] <lupine_85> ...?
[11:48] <gnomefreak> ?
[11:48] <Hobbsee> nixternal: ?
[11:48] <fdoving> wrong chan i belive..
[11:48] <Jucato> ??
[11:48] <nixternal> wrong window ;)
[11:48] <nixternal> haha
[11:48] <nixternal> shhh
[11:48] <lupine_85> lol
[11:48] <gnomefreak> it was taken care of in #ubuntu
[11:48] <nixternal> back to the meeting
[11:48] <Jucato> bah
[11:48] <Jucato> :P
[11:48] <lupine_85> thought I'd been caught sekeretly selling Windows Vista there ;)
[11:49] <Jucato> JosefK: I've been telling you, it's not possible. but feel free to dig around if you still want to
[11:49] <LjL> hey
[11:49] <LjL> wrong window but... *nobody was affected*?`that's a first
[11:49] <klerfayt> I got problems with monitor turning blank after some minutes then I'm away - what could be the cause?
[11:49] <daveyarusso> lupine_85: I'll give it a try.  Thanks.
[11:49] <lupine_85> np, I do it a lot with my LM partitions :)
[11:49] <JosefK> Jucato: heh, I'm nothing if not persistent
[11:49] <lupine_85> erm, LVM
[11:49] <Jucato> good luck
[11:49] <JosefK> Jucato: nice to see the rush of people with ideas in #kde too...
[11:50] <daveyarusso> lupine_85: Tony may find you for LVM help sometime... ;)
[11:50] <lupine_85> seriously, I hacked through it
[11:51] <lupine_85> now it's working, it's incredibly cool though
[11:51] <daveyarusso> lupine_85: You sure it doesn't need to be a live CD?  I got "/dev/hdc3 is mounted; can't resize a mounted filesystem!"
[11:52] <lupine_85> strange. dapper or edgy?
[11:52] <daveyarusso> Dapper
[11:52] <K`zan> brb
[11:52] <lupine_85> hmm. the older kernel might not have support for on-line resizing built in :/
[11:53] <lupine_85> worked fine on edgy
[11:53] <lupine_85> sorry, I just assume everyone's on edgy ;)
[11:53] <lupine_85> LTS--
[11:53] <daveyarusso> lupine_85: Aaah.  That seems likely.  Well, we can get resize2fs on the live CD anyway.
[11:54] <hassan2a> anyone playing to enemy territory ?
[11:54] <lupine_85> hassan2a: not right now...
[11:54] <daveyarusso> lupine_85: Is the package name for that the same as the command (if you know offhand)?
[11:54] <lupine_85> it's hard to play ET and use IRC at the same time :p
[11:54] <hassan2a> erf
[11:55] <hassan2a> isn't hard ^^
[11:55] <lupine_85> t'isn't easy ^^ desu
[11:55] <lupine_85> daveyarusso: e2fsprogs: /sbin/resize2fs
[11:56] <daveyarusso> lupine_85: Great.  Thanks.
[11:59] <fxr> hi ve tried about a thousand howtos' to get fglrx working with my radeon 9200se i keep killing X
[12:00] <fxr> its really starting to frustrate me
[12:00] <fxr> can anyone offer any ideas where i might be going wrong?
[12:00] <Jucato> !ati
[12:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:04] <fxr> ***The model of the card is in the 9xxx series, 9500 or higher, or it is in the X series (e.g. X300), or it has TV-Out capability. The 'fglrx' driver does not support cards earlier than the 8500.***
[12:05] <fxr> does that mean my 9200 is supported, its not totally clear
[12:05] <desync> i've given up on fglrx with my x1300
[12:13] <lupine_85> fxr: it probably means it isn't
[12:14] <foob> when i type "sudo ntfsmount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1/ -o umask=0007" i get: "Use the force option to work a mounted filesystem. Mount failed." What should I do?