[12:19] I hate to bother you guys. [12:19] But what's the user-interface for approving members to a team? [12:20] Or even changing their status? [12:20] Oh, I see. I got logged out. [12:37] is there any malone xml rpc integration available in python at the moment? === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #launchpad [12:43] quick question, what happened to the "request backport in" button on launchpad? === thumper [n=tim@222.152.39.218] has joined #launchpad [12:51] jdong: Who knows whats going on with launchpad, lol [12:51] So many changes - hard to keep up [12:51] I have no idea, that's for sure :) [12:51] I get used to one way and the next day the link is gone [12:51] I'm looking for a way to mark a bug as fixed in Feisty but needs fixing in Dapper/Edgy [12:51] options in Launchpad change faster than Beryl options [12:58] jdong: "nominate for release" [12:59] jamesh: ah, ok, thanks [01:00] jamesh: nominations can't be marked with a progress/status individually anymore? [01:00] jdong: the nomination needs to be accepted by one of the developers [01:00] at which point it becomes a bug task that can have an assignee, status, importance, etc === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-135-240.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #launchpad [01:05] oh [01:05] :( === shawn___ [n=shawn@netblock-68-183-69-197.dslextreme.com] has joined #launchpad [01:13] jdong: the Ubuntu developers don't want random people creating tasks to fix bugs in Ubuntu Warty, for instance ... [01:13] jdong: the nomination feature keeps track of who requested the backport, and if the nomination gets rejected, who rejected it === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #launchpad === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.10.9.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === xenru|clone [n=Miranda@85.192.13.70] has joined #launchpad === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #launchpad [02:11] how would I show all the Critical bugs in https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs? maybe even all the High and Critical bugs? [02:15] New bug: #78384 in malone "Can not add comments to bug 78282 (release management related?)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78384 === freet15 [n=freet15@61.48.79.151] has joined #launchpad === freet15 [n=freet15@61.48.79.151] has joined #launchpad [02:32] apparently the Brazilian Embassy only takes telephone requests about visas from 9am to 11am eastern time [02:33] which corresponds to 7am to 9am western time ... === poolie [n=mbp@ppp112-44.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad [02:49] I'm a bit confused about "Releases" and "Release Series" on Launchpad. [02:50] This is my first time releasing anything on Launchpad. I created a release series first: https://launchpad.net/framework/release-0.2 [02:51] I've bound my release branch to it and a link is listed on the series overview page to it--nice. :) [02:51] What I don't get is what the point of a release within a series is. It seems like random metadata without a link to a branch...? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.48.79.151] has joined #launchpad === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.48.79.151] has joined #launchpad [03:18] jkakar: hi? [03:18] poolie: Hi. :) [03:19] jkakar: i think a release can have a package built from it [03:19] poolie: How does the package builder know which branch do use? [03:19] poolie: There appears to be no way to bind a branch to a release. Only to a release series. [03:20] and perhaps have bugs attached etc [03:20] jkakar: sorry i don't know [03:20] um [03:20] jamesh may know? [03:21] currently a ProductRelease is just metadata, an optionally a link to some files in the librarian [03:21] (the librarian linkage stuff isn't exposed in the UI [03:21] jamesh: Ah I see. Thanks! [03:21] jkakar: if you configure a glob for releases for a particular product series, the releases should get registered automatically [03:22] it'll scan for tarballs [03:22] Oh. I've been binding bzr branches to my release series. [03:22] you can do both [03:23] Huh, cool. Thanks. [03:28] jamesh: Who should I contact if I want to make a case about why I should have developer-level abilities with nomination? [03:28] jdong: w.r.t. Ubuntu? [03:28] jamesh: yes [03:30] jdong: currently you need to be a member of ubuntu-core-dev to be able to accept nominations or directly target bugs to distro releases [03:30] (I think) [03:30] oh, ok :-/ [03:31] back to using dapper-backports/edgy-backports products for the backports tree then :D [03:31] jdong: BjornT should be able to answer questions about the LP side of things [03:31] jdong: as for team membership/permissions, that is something for the Ubuntu developers and community to decide on [03:32] we've always got the option of modifying Launchpad if it can't correctly model the permissions Ubuntu needs [03:33] mmm [03:33] ok, I'll keep that in mind [03:33] in the future if the new system becomes a problem for me, I'll approach the tech board guys about it... === Riddell [i=jr@muse.19inch.net] has joined #launchpad [04:05] New bug: #78395 in malone "Support Google Code's issue tracker" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78395 === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.48.79.151] has joined #launchpad === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-086-217.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #launchpad === MagicFab_ [n=magicfab@modemcable238.84-82-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad === Bhaskar [n=Bhaskar@202.79.37.177] has joined #launchpad [04:42] jamesh: i have translated schooltool via launchpad, download po,mo file and update translation but the problem is : in the leftside of schooltool i e leftside menu(with hyperlinks) is not translated in Nepali pls suggest me why this happens [04:42] Bhaskar: have you asked the schooltool guys about this? [04:43] Bhaskar: in case there is something special you need to do to get those links translated? [04:43] james ya but nobody suggest me [04:43] jamesh: pls how [04:46] jamesh: i m sending schooltool.po pls check and suggest me [04:47] Bhaskar: yeah. it doesn't seem to be getting through one of our firewalls [04:47] can you put it up somewhere web accessible? [04:47] jamesh:mail pls , i m sending via mail [04:47] preferably with an up to date PO template too (probably called schooltool.pot [04:48] jamesh" your mail pls [04:49] james@jamesh.id.au [04:53] jamesh:pls check my mail [04:54] james:from Bhaskar [04:54] I don't see it yet [04:55] will probably have to wait til it gets retried due to greylisting [04:58] james: pls there is attachment, i think takes little time for download [05:05] Bhaskar: got your mail now [05:07] Bhaskar: do you know where I could see an up to date PO template for schooltool? [05:07] jamesh: pls check another mail, i send a localized screenshot os schooltool in nepali, where u can see my problem [05:07] jamesh: see https://launchpad.net/schooltool/2006/+pots/schooltool [05:08] Bhaskar: the PO file you sent me seems to have some form of conflict markers [05:08] jamesh: for update po template where u can see for nepali language: my name also [05:09] jamesh: i have merged two po so [05:09] there are translations that contain stuff like "#-#-#-#-# a.po (schooltool) #-#-#-#-# [one translation] #-#-#-#-# ne.po (schoolbell) #-#-#-#-# [a second translation] " [05:09] that looks incorrect [05:10] you probably need to combine the two files with msgmerge [05:10] jamesh: ya when merging ie msgcat [05:10] Bhaskar: if you can wait, danilos or carlos will be up, and may be able to help you [05:10] james: i used msgcat so this was happining [05:11] they are the main rosetta developers, and know a lot more about the details of the gettext utilities than me [05:11] james: here in Nepal it is 10:pm, i am in my office [05:12] jamesh: no no 10:am [05:12] jamesh: u get my 2nd mail? [05:13] Bhaskar: both Carlos and Danilo are on European time (+0100), so should be around for your afternoon [05:13] I got your second email [05:14] some of the untranslated strings seem to appear in your PO file with those weird conflict markers [05:14] other ones don't seem to be in the PO file at all [05:15] james:see the localised gui, i am trying to localized [05:15] yepo [05:15] yep, even [05:17] jamesh: i think the template given by launchpad, is not containing all the string that are used in schooltool application [05:17] Bhaskar: right. The schooltool guys need to upload new PO templates as strings are added/changed [05:18] if they don't, then the PO files generated by rosetta won't have full coverage [05:19] jamesh: they put 3 template, confusing, one is schooltool main, 2nd is schooltool2006,and 3rd one is schooltool in Ubuntu Dapper package "schooltool" [05:20] that does sound confusing [05:20] james:which one is to be used?? so i have merged 1 and 2 and compile [05:20] Bhaskar: the merged PO file you sent me references schooltool and schoolbell [05:21] from memory, schoolbell is a subset of schooltool only containing the calendar code and not the other school management bits [05:22] james: ya schooltooll template they provided is not containing whole string, so i have mersed schoolbell also, some strings are in schoolbell also [05:26] jamesh: i think they should provide only final one template [05:26] no argument there. [05:29] jamesh:well how can i solve my problem?? [05:30] Bhaskar: I don't know how to solve your problem. The people who'd have a better chance of helping you will be up shortly (a few hours) [05:31] james: thanks [05:31] james: what is your profession [05:32] jamesh: i think you are also programmer or...... [05:32] Bhaskar: I am also a Launchpad developer, but I don't work on the Rosetta parts much [05:33] james:well so you know python, zope.... [05:34] yep === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.48.79.151] has joined #launchpad [05:41] is there still a calendar feature in launchpad? [05:45] poolie ya [05:53] jamesh: i think you can aslo discuss with your team for such problems === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.48.79.151] has joined #launchpad [05:54] poolie: any problem [05:56] jamesh: Are you at all familiar with Zope3/SQLAlchemy integration via ZAlchemy? [05:56] WebMaven: never used SQLAlchemy, so no. [05:56] poolie: hi [05:57] jamesh: do you do RDBMS development with Zope3 at all? [05:57] WebMaven: yes. Launchpad stores most of its data in a Postgres database [05:58] (we also have a file based storage system called the librarian, rather than storing big files as blobs in the db) [05:58] WebMaven: we are currently using SQLObject [05:59] I tried SQLObject (and SQLOS) but got stuck on it's insistence on one db connection. [06:01] Also various annoying bugs. Meanwhile, ZAlchemy and SQLAlchemy look pretty good, but the examples are non-existent. [06:01] we have been looking at switching over to a new ORM [06:02] jamesh: check your pm [06:04] jamesh: so, is there anyone else who does know anything about SQLAlchemy and ZAlchemy? === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.48.79.151] has joined #launchpad === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.10.9.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad [06:07] WebMaven: I don't know. Perhaps ask on the SQLAlchemy list? [06:08] When I ask in #sqlalchemy, I get told "don't use Zope", which isn't helpful. [06:09] what if you ask on a zope list or IRC channel? [06:09] "don't use an RDBMS" [06:10] haha [06:10] it's OK, I know who the maintainer of ZAlchemy is, I'll catch him in IRC sometime soon. I was just wondering if I there were any other experts I could find. [06:11] expert users, that is. [06:12] WebMaven: if your problem is SQLAlchemy specific, I can't really help. If it is more of a "using ORMs with Zope" I might be able to help. [06:12] WebMaven: niemeyer may be able to help out a bit too -- he was using SQLAlchemy for another project [06:13] Hmm. I think it's ZALchemy specific, at least my current problem is. [06:13] I don't know if he was using ZAlchemy [06:13] Huh. OK, I'll keep an eye out for him then. [06:15] Well, if he was using something else, I'd like to know that too. I tried using Alchemist recently, but it's currently too focused on Five and Plone. [06:15] for that purpose, it is very nice, but I'm working on a Zope3 app. [06:16] jamesh: are you a Canonical employee? [06:18] Ah, I see you do. Are you or any other Canonical folks coming to PyCon? [06:20] WebMaven: I'm not going to PyCon. Don't know about anyone else [06:20] WebMaven: I'll be at linux.conf.au next week if you're in the area :) [06:21] Hah. I'm in Las Vegas. [06:21] that's not too far [06:21] you'd probably only need to change planes once === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.48.79.151] has joined #launchpad [06:23] Well, sure. Who's buying the ticket? [06:24] it is a bit late this year, but if you are prepared to speak you can get linux.conf.au to pay for the ticket [06:24] watch for next year [06:25] 's call for papers [06:25] Just the ticket, or hotel too? [06:25] both [06:25] LCA takes care of its speakers [06:26] Cool. Are they interested in Zope-related talks? [06:26] there is usually a large mix of papers presented at the conf [06:27] And is Zope part of that mix? ;-) [06:27] we've had Rasmus give tutorials on PHP, so Zope can't really be out of scope :) [06:27] Heh. OK. [06:27] OK, what the heck is gnome-vfs-obexftp? [06:28] the talk would need to appeal to a fairly broad audience though -- you wouldn't be able to expect all attendees to know about the Zope 3 component model for instance :) === freet15__ [n=freet15@61.48.79.151] has joined #launchpad [06:29] WebMaven: OBEX FTP is a file transfer protocol implemented by most phones that support bluetooth [06:29] Ah! All becomes clear. [06:29] WebMaven: gnome-vfs-obexftp is a module that lets you browse your phone's file system with gnome-vfs aware apps, such as Nautilus [06:29] Cool. [06:30] So I can take photos with my phone, hit reload in Nautilus and instantly view the photo on my laptop [06:30] v. cool. [06:30] (there is no change notification, so it is necessary to reload) [06:32] so, do bluetooth devices just appear on the desktop as a device, like a USB device you plugged in? [06:32] I mean, auto-magically? [06:33] not quite [06:33] you need to pair the device with your laptop [06:34] OK. 'cause, that would be an interesting vuln. [06:34] then if you go to the URL "obex:" in Nautilus and you get a list of the paired devices that support obexftp [06:34] very, very cool. [06:35] Hey, thx for explaining that. [06:37] it beats transferring photos off the phone as MMS messages, or sending them individually from the phone to the computer [06:38] I'll bet. [06:41] there is also a "Wireless USB" protocol in thw works, so the next digital camera and laptop you buy may be able to communicate in the same way [06:41] it also introduces yet another radio protocol for computers to implement ... [06:43] Well, while thats inconvenient in-and-of itself, eventually the weight of these protocols will tip the balance toward software defined radio. [06:44] for forward compatibility, if nothing else. [06:44] you've got WiFi, WiMAX, Bluetooth, Wireless USB, GSM, CDMA, etc [06:45] and they're coming along faster and faster.... [06:46] we're approaching the market limits on custom ASICs for radio protocols, devices are being obsoleted at an incredible pace. [06:47] a number of wifi chipsets _are_ software defined radios these days [06:47] device manufacturers are being backed into a corner, and the only way out is going to be reprogrammable hardware. [06:47] some of them run their firmware on decently powerful ARM CPUs [06:47] Yes, but not general purpose ones, yet. [06:48] how do you know? :) [06:48] I mean, one chipset, all protocols (all *possible* protocols). [06:48] but that's the way it's converging. [06:49] what I mean is: do you really know what the full capabilities of your wifi chipset are, assuming you were able to write custom firmware [06:49] And then, some really wild things will start happening... [06:50] OK, fair point, but if the chipset were *completely* flexible, it wouldn't just get used for wifi. [06:50] just diddling the frequency and power doesn't count. === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.48.79.151] has joined #launchpad [06:56] One chipset to rule them all... [06:57] AM, FM, UWB and maybe PM. === BjornT- [n=bjorn@213.226.190.250] has joined #launchpad === BjornT- is now known as BjornT [07:00] BjornT: earlier, kees was having trouble adding a comment to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vnc4/+bug/78282 [07:00] Malone bug 78282 in vnc4 "vnc4server does not start Desktop environment after security update" [High,Confirmed] [07:01] the +addcomment form gives a forbidden error. [07:01] the +addcomment form for either of the distrorelease bug tasks works okay though. [07:03] jamesh: yeah, i saw that in the backlog. i'll take a look at it today, i think there's an easy fix for it. [07:04] BjornT: I filed a bug about it (bug 78384) so it doesn't get forgotten [07:04] Malone bug 78384 in malone "Can not add comments to bug 78282 (release management related?)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78384 [07:04] thanks jamesh === freet15__ [n=freet15@61.48.79.151] has joined #launchpad === BjornT [n=bjorn@213.226.190.39] has joined #launchpad === ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@port166-123.ubs.maxnet.net.nz] has joined #launchpad [07:42] BjornT, did guided-filebug require updating anything in sourcecode/? === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #launchpad === jml [n=jml@ppp110-243.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === freet15__ [n=freet15@61.48.79.151] has joined #launchpad === freet15__ [n=freet15@61.48.79.151] has joined #launchpad [07:56] mpt: I was just doing a quick fix for the alignment problem with the "Launchpad" menu at the top of the page [07:56] mpt: https://devpad.canonical.com/~andrew/paste/fileJJM7iL.html <- does that look okay to you? === mpt is temporarily confused by the "~andrew" in the URL [07:56] hello [07:56] jamesh, yep, that looks fine [07:56] poolie, no, no calendar any more [07:56] the fonts in the beta look very small to me [07:56] or is my browser just confused? [07:56] poolie, yes, that was an executive decision [07:58] mpt: is the top menu gone from the beta UI? [07:59] jamesh, it no longer has any icons in it, so the problem doesn't occur [08:00] mpt: weird. I don't see any menu on beta.launchpad.net [08:00] mpt: no, guided-filebug shouldn't have required any updating in sourcecode/. i did a commit to sourcecode/sqlos a while ago, though, so make sure it's up to date. [08:01] jamesh, that's because the menu is currently accidentally hidden by my initial unsuccessful attempt to make it look like a menu [08:01] fair enough :) [08:01] BjornT, yes, since asking that question I discovered that sqlos was out of date and have just updated it :-) === freet15__ [n=freet15@61.48.79.151] has joined #launchpad [08:02] hadn't quite finished testing whether that was the problem [08:04] hooray [08:04] thanks BjornT === carlos [n=carlos@167.Red-88-0-136.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad [08:15] morning [08:19] carlos: Bhaskar was around earlier with some questions about using some translations he'd done in Rosetta with SchoolTool [08:19] jamesh: ok, thanks [08:19] I helped him as best I could, but you might have better luck [08:19] Bhaskar: hi [08:20] carlos: thanks for jamesh and hi [08:20] Bhaskar: what could I do for you? [08:20] carlos: i have problem in translation [08:21] What kind of problem? [08:21] carlos:I have translate: [08:21] 1. SchoolTool Series: main Translation template "schooltool" [08:21] https://launchpad.net/schooltool/main/+pots/schooltool [08:21] 2. SchoolTool Series: 2006 Translation template "schooltool" [08:21] https://launchpad.net/schooltool/2006/+pots/schooltool [08:21] 3. SchoolBell Translation overview [08:21] https://translations.launchpad.net/schoolbell/+translations [08:21] And download po and mo and did: make update-translations but i could not get all the string to be translate in nepali . [08:21] My quarries: [08:21] 1.which template should be used for translation?????? [08:22] 2.i think all above template given by launchpad is not containing all the string used in schooltool, schoolbell. [08:22] 3.there is confusion in template 1 and 2 (given above), i think launchpad should mersed both of them with containing all string used in schooltool (people are always in confusion which template should be used) [08:22] Note: the attached localized gui, i mersed two po ( schooltool and schoolbell) so some of string is seen in nepali otherwise hard to see from only schooltool.po [08:22] So please suggest me , how to proceed further. [08:23] hmm [08:24] well, we don't handle those templates directly [08:24] Schooltool developers do [08:24] so they decided to use that layout [08:24] from what I see there [08:24] seems like the template you should work on is https://launchpad.net/schooltool/2006/+pots/schooltool [08:25] at least is the latest one [08:26] Bhaskar: did you try to ask at #schooltool ? [08:27] carlos: i have many try with them but could not get proper ideas from there === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.10.9.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === freet15__ [n=freet15@61.48.79.151] has joined #launchpad [08:29] Bhaskar: then, could you try to contact with someone from https://launchpad.net/~schooltool-owners (except for Mark Shuttleworth) ? [08:29] they are the ones using launchpad for Schooltool so they should give you a hint on it. [08:30] carlos:i also used https://launchpad.net/schooltool/2006/+pots/schooltool but not success, see i have translated [08:31] Bhaskar: how do you try to use those translations? === shawn___ [n=shawn@adsl-70-132-3-177.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] has joined #launchpad [08:33] carlos: simply i have translated in launchpad, download po and mo file then compile with make update-translations [08:33] oh, so you put it back into your schooltool tree [08:35] Bhaskar: I don't know how is that handled, did you check that it doesn't require that you add Nepali language to any Makefile ? [08:35] I'm assuming that you added that language and it didn't exist before in the SchoolTool tree [08:35] carlos:i copy those files on src/schooltool/locales/ne/LC_MESSAGE/schooltool.po,schooltool.mo [08:37] carlos> in configuration there is a provision to add language [08:38] I guess that means you added it, right? [08:41] carlos:in schooltool.conf file you can add your language [08:41] that's on run time, right? [08:41] carlos: so i also add my language :ne [08:42] carlos: i set in default [08:42] Bhaskar: could you check that update-translations installed your translations into your system tree? [08:42] or are you executing it from the source code tree? [08:42] carlos:ya [08:43] carlos: make pudate-translations [08:43] carlos:make update-translations [08:43] carlos: then run localhost [08:44] Bhaskar: then no idea, sorry, you will need to check it with Schooltool developers... [08:45] carlos:there is 3 templates, which one to be used? [08:45] Bhaskar: from my point of view the '2006' one [08:47] carlos:but i think this template not containing all the string [08:47] Bhaskar: then it's a problem with SchoolTool developers that didn't upload latest template from their source tree [08:48] carlos:i think so [08:48] carlos: are you doing work in schooltool [08:49] no, I'm not [08:49] carlos: where r u from [08:49] I'm just a Launchpad developer and helped them to use Rosetta to handle translations [08:49] Bhaskar: from Spain [08:51] carlos:i think in spain the schooltool project is ongoing, have u any info about this [08:52] no, sorry. I'm not in touch of anyone deploying it [08:53] carlos: ok [08:53] carlos: are u programmer.... [08:53] Bhaskar: yes [08:54] carlos: c c++ java, python which one ???? [08:55] carlos: me also [08:55] C and Python, but also have knowledge of java [08:56] carlos: are u engineer [08:56] carlos: how can i start to learn python, share me ideas [08:58] Bhaskar: http://docs.python.org/tut/tut.html [08:58] that's a tutorial to introduce yourself in python [08:59] carlos: for schooltool customization i need the programming skill in python [09:00] right [09:02] carlos: where are u working? [09:03] Bhaskar: in Canonical [09:03] carlos:well , i think u are also engineer [09:04] carlos: what type of project are in canonical [09:05] Bhaskar: launchpad.net [09:06] carlos: well , so u know the launchpad template for translation, [09:06] Bhaskar: there is not such template (yet) [09:08] carlos: i mean schooltool template?? === thumper [n=tim@166-179-25-236.jamamobile.co.nz] has joined #launchpad [09:10] as I said, we helped them to import it into launchpad [09:10] but the SchoolTool developers are the ones that do the upload into our system [09:12] carlos:why this is happening? [09:13] what? === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #launchpad === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #launchpad === matthewrevell [n=matthew@82-47-115-49.cable.ubr05.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === doko_ is now known as doko === ..[topic/#launchpad:matthewrevell] : Developer meeting: Thu 11 Jan 2007, 1200UTC (wiki:MeetingAgenda) | launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com (wiki:MailingLists) | Channel logs: http://tinyurl.com/72w39 === stu1 [n=stub@ppp-58.8.2.171.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === silwol [n=silwol@193.170.132.134] has joined #launchpad [10:03] spiv: bazaar/launchpad meeting? [10:04] jamesh: Do you have time for a call today? [10:04] matthewrevell: sure. But I've got one meeting now and another next hour. [10:04] some time after that? [10:05] jamesh: Yeah, that sounds great, thanks. I've just got a few questions about the Zope migration. [10:05] jamesh: Do you want to ping me when you're available? [10:05] hey stub, bug 76854 has me modifying trusted.sql to teach the stored procedure for validating URLs about the bzr+ssh scheme. Is there any special technique for modifying this code so that it goes into production smoothly? [10:05] Malone bug 76854 in launchpad-bazaar "Launchpad does not understand bzr+ssh: urls" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76854 - Assigned to Elliot Murphy (emurphy) [10:06] matthewrevell: sure. [10:06] jamesh: Thank you :) === jinty [n=jinty@vc-196-207-32-235.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #launchpad === xdatap [n=xdatap1@host110-222.pool8175.interbusiness.it] has joined #launchpad [10:15] hi there [10:15] there's any launchpad admin here? [10:18] today karma calculation don't work: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/78411 [10:18] Malone bug 78411 in launchpad "Arithmetic error on Karma calculating" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [10:18] jamesh: already? I'm getting forgetful in my old age... [10:19] spiv: it is on irc.canonical.com [10:25] New bug: #78411 in launchpad "Arithmetic error on Karma calculating" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78411 [10:28] review meeting in 32 minutes [10:29] xdatap: I'll see if I can find an answer for you. [10:30] matthewrevell: ok :) === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-135-240.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #launchpad [10:41] jinty:hello [10:45] New bug: #78415 in rosetta "UTC_NOW usage for review and translation time broken for submission with errors" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78415 [10:49] Bhaskar, hi === cprov [n=cprov@monga.dorianet.com.br] has joined #launchpad [10:50] jinty: i have mailed you about all problems that i found when localization === xdatap [n=xdatap1@host110-222.pool8175.interbusiness.it] has left #launchpad ["Konversation] [10:51] good morning ! [10:52] jinty: pls discuss with your team [10:53] Bhaskar, I have about 100 mails in my inbox, it might take a little time. Most discussions happen on the mailing lists, you might get a better response posting there. [10:54] jinty: well i will poste there [10:55] Bhaskar, great! [10:55] jinty:well we always follow your suggestion [10:58] review meeting in 2 minutes [10:59] jinty: make well planning for better improvement on schooltool [11:02] who is here for the review meeting? [11:02] me [11:02] me [11:02] == Agenda == [11:02] * Roll call [11:02] * Next meeting [11:02] * Queue status. [11:02] * reviewers to discuss ideas and principles for keeping branch review quick [11:03] me [11:04] hi [11:05] I'll be a little disorganised tonight, my laptop is fucked and I'm using lynnes [11:05] sorry [11:06] ok, next meeting - we've now got a idea of reviewers availability [11:06] I have not analyzed that to see if we have another, better slot yet. [11:07] * Queue Status [11:07] right now, we've got post holiday backlog === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad [11:08] I'm keeping all reviewers with 3 pending reviews, the backlog seems to be shrinking. [11:08] any concerns or comments on the status? [11:08] Our developers should stop working so hard ;) [11:09] I like that there are a lot of small branches. [11:09] That's true. [11:09] I suggest that reviewers try to do 2 reviews a day until the backlog is gone [11:10] okay [11:10] Sounds good. [11:12] * quick branch review [11:12] Any more ideas or thoughts in this area ? [11:13] I've haven't looked at implementing the diff generation for multi-part branches in pending-reviews === markvandenborre [n=mark@86-39-105-126.customer.fulladsl.be] has joined #launchpad [11:14] is there a way to check the history of a launchpad team? [11:14] when that's done it should make multi-stage branches easier to manage and review [11:14] jamesh: cool. [11:14] has anyone tried using interdiff to see how branches evolve ? [11:14] I mean, like seeing when it started, when members were approved,... [11:14] not really. [11:15] That was discussed in the november IIRC. [11:15] should I send a reminder to the list ? [11:15] i haven't used interdiff yet [11:16] Nor me. [11:17] markvandenborre: there is the "members" page that tells you some of this, like when people joined. [11:17] SteveA, thx [11:17] markvandenborre: there isn't a page that gives a list of events in chronological order, though [11:18] ok, I'm very interested in whether it works for you or not, because this will influence what thumper is asked to do in the review module for launchpad [11:18] so, please start saving the diff you review locally, and playing with interdiff - for reviews that you bounce for further work. === danilos [n=danilo@adsl-233-130.eunet.yu] has joined #launchpad === cprov -> brb [11:19]