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TLEI don't think.. think that it makes any difference in the procedure that there is a patch along.12:05
UbugtuNew bug: #78370 in hal (main) "hal must allow the "locale=" option for ntfs filesystem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7837012:06
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TLEDoes anybody here know of some software which is good at keeping track of your bug work. I'm just looking for some small database like application, which can contain the bugnumber, a "look at it next time"-date and a description and log ??12:08
UbugtuNew bug: #78371 in gaim (main) "crash while expanded contact came online" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7837112:10
UbugtuNew bug: #78372 in acpi-support (main) "Dell Inspiron 9400: backlight off after resume from suspend" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7837212:10
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UbugtuNew bug: #78373 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Thinkpad gets stuck booting feisty." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7837312:20
UbugtuNew bug: #78374 in kde-guidance (main) "user password is not read every time you open an user, results in password overwritten" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7837412:25
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dsasTLE: You could use a wiki page on wiki.ubuntu.com to do that12:30
dsasjust make wiki.ubuntu.com/TLE/Bugs then do || bugnum || date || description ||12:31
dsasit'll display as a table.12:31
TLEdsas: thank you, that is an exiting idea12:40
UbugtuNew bug: #78375 in gnome-mount (main) "[patch]  ntfs-fuse and ntfs-3g support for gnome-mount" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7837512:40
UbugtuNew bug: #78376 in ubiquity (main) "Kubuntu Feisty daily-live Ubiquity Crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7837612:40
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UbugtuNew bug: #78303 in ion3 "Ion3 complains of missing fonts on login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7830301:05
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UbugtuNew bug: #78377 in Ubuntu "poor message about "the x keyboard settings differ from your current gnome keyboard settings"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7837701:21
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UbugtuNew bug: #78378 in plucker (universe) "Python segfaults when running Plucker" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7837801:35
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UbugtuNew bug: #78380 in Ubuntu "Fiesty Live CD crashes during Boot " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7838001:50
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UbugtuNew bug: #78381 in Ubuntu "Regression of USB Mouse - Very slow if pc left on" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7838101:55
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UbugtuNew bug: #78386 in Ubuntu "Madwifi doesn't work on Thinkpad T42p" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7838602:25
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UbugtuNew bug: #78388 in dh-make (main) "GPG key comment is not used" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7838802:51
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UbugtuNew bug: #78391 in eog (main) "eog seg faults in 2.6.20-5-generic opening a JPG" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7839103:15
UbugtuNew bug: #78390 in ubiquity (main) "kubuntu 6.10 installer crashed on grub-install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7839003:16
UbugtuNew bug: #78392 in ghex (universe) "/var/lib/scrollkeeper/(null)/scrollkeeper_cl.xml warning on pkg ghex" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7839203:20
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UbugtuNew bug: #78393 in Ubuntu "reboot not successful on eMachines M5312 in 6.10 Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7839304:00
UbugtuNew bug: #78394 in Ubuntu "audio trouble caused by USB connected mouse at boot-time v6.10" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7839404:05
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UbugtuNew bug: #69385 in gaim (main) "Crash when closing message window." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6938504:15
Hobbseebug 7832004:18
UbugtuMalone bug 78320 in adept "Adept Updater crashes on update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7832004:18
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UbugtuNew bug: #78396 in language-selector (main) "Language selector does not install pdf language support" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7839604:55
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UbugtuNew bug: #78397 in compiz (universe) "Package 0.3.6" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7839705:20
UbugtuNew bug: #78399 in jack-audio-connection-kit (universe) "Please sync jack-audio-connection-kit from Debian experimental (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7839905:30
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UbugtuNew bug: #78400 in xvidcap (multiverse) "Crashing xvidcap - cedega - Warcraft -window" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7840005:35
UbugtuNew bug: #78401 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu does not read system clock correctly." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7840105:45
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persiaDebdiff uploaded for bug#36001.  Please review and upload.05:53
Admiral_Chicagobug # 3600105:54
Admiral_Chicagowhere is the bot....05:54
persiaAdmiral_Chicago: Try https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/slashem/+bug/3600105:54
UbugtuMalone bug 36001 in slashem "slashem-gtk & slashem-sdl lack entries in menu" [Medium,Confirmed] 05:54
Admiral_Chicagoformatting..05:55
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Admiral_Chicagoah I figure a MOTU will get on that soon05:56
Hobbseepersia: release is wrong :P05:57
Hobbseeapart from that, looks good05:57
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persiaHobbsee: I've just put a fixed patch (s/unstable/feisty) up.  Sorry.05:58
Hobbseewoot :)05:58
Hobbseepersia: done :)05:59
persiaHobbsee: Thanks.05:59
Admiral_Chicagoyea you need to realize Hobbsee is 1337 like that06:00
Hobbseepersia: dunno why you assigned it to MOTU06:00
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Hobbsees stuff before - or seen it when merging06:00
Hobbseepersia: when will you do the teg one?06:00
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persiaHobbsee: I put a patch up for bug 78296 earlier today :)06:00
UbugtuMalone bug 78296 in teg "TEG does not appear in Gnome Menu" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7829606:00
Hobbseewoot :)06:00
persiaHobbsee: I still haven't figured out how to catch the orphaned server issue yet, but at least the icon is pretty again.06:01
Hobbseepersia: :)06:01
Hobbseepersia: youv'e sent these to debian, preusmably?06:02
persiaHobbsee: robitaille assigned 36001 to MOTU in April.  This was best practice then.06:02
persiaHobbsee: Actually, no.  I've been relying on the nice interface in packages.qa.debian.org to show debian my patches.  Perhaps I should file some bugs...06:03
persiaHobbsee: e.g. http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gaphor.html shows the patch for gaphor, which was adopted by debian, hence your bug to sync.06:04
Hobbseepersia: ah right.  however it's done best - you seem to be the expert on icons :)06:04
Hobbseenice :)06:04
persiaHobbsee: No, just not very good at other things, and like to have a nice menu.06:04
Hobbseewell, we still need the icon/menu fixes :)06:05
Hobbseeand you appear to do all the patches right, so i dont have to go thru with a fine tooht comb for it :)06:05
UbugtuNew bug: #78402 in ekiga (main) "unknown crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7840206:06
Hobbseepersia: both accepted06:06
persiaHobbsee: If you're in an uploading mood, please also take a look at bug 33580 and bug 4262206:07
UbugtuMalone bug 33580 in imgseek ".desktop file not included" [Wishlist,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/3358006:07
UbugtuMalone bug 42622 in drscheme "Missing .desktop file" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/4262206:07
Hobbseethey look familliar...06:07
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Hobbseepersia: did you do them?06:07
persiaHobbsee: Yes.06:08
persia42622 is actually an example of why I should start filing bugs with Debian06:09
UbugtuNew bug: #78403 in chicken (main) "Include packages for Chicken Scheme 2.5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7840306:11
Hobbseepersia: indeed06:15
Hobbseeaiee, drscheme is big06:16
Hobbseepersia: done x206:20
persiaHobbsee: Thanks for all the uploads.06:21
Hobbseepersia: no problem :)  thanks for making the patches!  (and making them well :D)06:21
persiaPatch uploaded to fix bug 3632606:42
UbugtuMalone bug 36326 in qsampler "should depend on linuxsampler" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/3632606:42
UbugtuNew bug: #78405 in apport (main) "trying to run apport-retrace -d <file> to get dbgsym packages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7840506:50
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UbugtuNew bug: #78406 in gnome-panel (main) "spontaneous crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7840606:55
crimsunpersia: how would that help?06:56
crimsun1) linuxsampler doesn't exist as a binary in 7.0406:57
crimsun2) making linuxsampler a Recommends break the requirement that Recommends be satisfiable for installation06:57
crimsunbreaks, even06:57
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persiacrimsun: Right.  Should the bug be rejected then, especially if linuxsampler is not to be included in 7.04?  Furthermore, should qsampler be included if linuxsampler is not?07:00
crimsunno, leave the bug for now07:01
crimsunI don't have enough info atm to reject it outright, but it looks like it should be rejected soon07:02
persiaI'll just comment covering your notes above.07:03
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pwnguina quick scenario: about a month ago, someone submitted an ACPI laptop bug to launchpad that also affects my hardware. it was marked fix released over a week ago, but i'm still seeing problems with it07:06
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persiapwnguin: Bugs are usually marked "Fix Released" once a fix has been released to the development repositories for Ubuntu.  You may expect that the bug will not affect you (or others) in the future, but it may not have been backported to current releases.  Which bug number?07:08
pwnguin7702607:08
pwnguinhjmm07:09
pwnguini should check my email more often07:10
persiapwnguin: Looking at the bug, it appears that the fix didn't work, and that the developers have been notified.  More information should be forthcoming.07:11
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pwnguinyea, apparently the original submitter chimed during tonights zelda session07:12
persia Patch uploaded for bug 5776907:12
UbugtuMalone bug 57769 in gnumed-client "Doesn't have a .desktop file" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/5776907:12
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UbugtuNew bug: #78407 in gnupg2 (main) "Too less strings in edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7840708:20
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dholbachgood morning08:41
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UbugtuNew bug: #78409 in jabber (universe) "Jabber crash upon registration" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7840909:31
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cypher1dholbach: hi!!!09:51
cypher1dholbach: happy new year!09:51
dholbachhey cypher1! to you too!09:52
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UbugtuNew bug: #78412 in gtkpod-aac (multiverse) "Crash when deleting songs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7841210:25
UbugtuNew bug: #78413 in gtk-theme-switch (universe) "gtk-theme-switch crashes on apply" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7841310:25
UbugtuNew bug: #69091 in fontconfig (main) "Fonts look blurry if ~/.fonts.conf (even empty one) is present" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6909110:40
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UbugtuNew bug: #78416 in Ubuntu "Evolution crashes on exit - Ubuntu 6.06" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7841610:51
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UbugtuNew bug: #78417 in Ubuntu "No way to suppress the password dialog after standby" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7841711:15
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UbugtuNew bug: #78419 in Ubuntu "Symbol for network connection not created for all devices" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7841911:35
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UbugtuNew bug: #78420 in nautilus-sendto (main) "nautilus-sendto crash on sending a file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7842012:00
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UbugtuNew bug: #78425 in xserver-xgl (universe) "xgl-crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7842512:22
UbugtuNew bug: #78427 in gabber2 (universe) "grabber 1.9.4.2 crashes on read message" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7842712:22
UbugtuNew bug: #78421 in bash (main) "cannot enter any characters any more sometimes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7842112:23
UbugtuNew bug: #78422 in mysql-admin (universe) "MySql admin crashes when doing backups of large data sets" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7842212:23
UbugtuNew bug: #78423 in tetex-base (main) "Chapter title in page header broken for memoir class (upstream fix exists)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7842312:23
UbugtuNew bug: #78424 in pgadmin3 (universe) "crash on displaying system objects" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7842412:23
UbugtuNew bug: #78426 in mplayer (multiverse) "mplayer crash with "illegal instruction" on PPC" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7842612:23
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UbugtuNew bug: #78429 in Ubuntu "Dell D600 immediately resumes when sent to standby mode in dock" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7842912:31
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UbugtuNew bug: #78428 in rhythmbox (main) "rhythmbox crashes editing tags of an mp3 file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7842812:36
UbugtuNew bug: #78430 in gnumeric (main) "Broken line in /usr/lib/mime/packages/gnumeric-gtk" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7843012:36
UbugtuNew bug: #78431 in rhythmbox (main) "Importing a cd in rhythmbox does not work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7843112:36
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UbugtuNew bug: #78432 in beagle (main) "beagled has two instances in the Gnome Session" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7843212:40
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UbugtuNew bug: #78433 in Ubuntu "random soft lockup with external usb harddisk" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7843312:45
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UbugtuNew bug: #76560 in Ubuntu "please sync python-debian from debian/experimental" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7656001:11
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UbugtuNew bug: #78435 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "temporary filenames should handle multiple extensions (.tar.gz)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7843501:35
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UbugtuNew bug: #76461 in nsca (universe) "Problem with Default Config File" [Unknown,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7646102:00
UbugtuNew bug: #76408 in suphp (universe) "suphp 0.6.2 needed for apache 2.2" [Unknown,Unknown]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7640802:10
UbugtuNew bug: #76483 in ipac-ng (universe) "Merge ipac-ng 1.31-3 from Debian" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7648302:10
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UbugtuNew bug: #78437 in ubiquity (main) "installer crashes in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7843702:20
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UbugtuNew bug: #78438 in openoffice "Can't enter "-rhoAcw" as text in a cell" [Unknown,Unknown]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7843802:25
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=== Yawner thinks the topic is misleading
palskihow come?02:47
Yawnerdont think its the HugDay today :)02:48
Yawnerwhen is the next HugDay?02:48
palskioh, that's true =)02:48
persiaYawner: It's always HugDay!02:49
Yawnerhehe02:49
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gnomefreakmvo: when you get a spare few minutes. I commented on the smart sync bug #73882 that smart is no longer in debian NEW. i have smart RC from debain at this time but there are some things i have concerns about how it handles packages (maybe an upstream issues) but when you get time can you ping me02:49
UbugtuMalone bug 73882 in smart "Please sync from debian/incoming (overwrite ok)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7388202:49
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UbugtuNew bug: #78439 in Ubuntu "ubuntu bug report" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7843902:51
UbugtuNew bug: #78440 in firefox (main) "Visit of a website crashes FF completely" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7844002:51
gnomefreakmvo: http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html02:51
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Yawnerhehe02:51
persiaOK, so maybe everyday isn't hug day after all :(02:51
Yawneroh well, im still fixing bugs today :)02:52
gnomefreakpersia: mostly wednesdays are hug days02:52
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Past_Imageshi guys i wondered if any of you could help out with these two bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/7820503:04
UbugtuMalone bug 78205 in Ubuntu "major usb detection problems in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 03:04
Past_Imageshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/7746403:04
UbugtuMalone bug 77464 in udev "usb printer not detected to add printer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 03:04
Past_Imagesi'm still waiting for fixes as i can't use my scanner!03:04
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UbugtuNew bug: #78441 in epiphany-browser (main) "[Feisty]  Crash displaying pages in the Amazon Online Reader" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7844103:06
UbugtuNew bug: #78442 in hugs98 (universe) "hugs crashed " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7844203:10
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zulnot enough03:13
Hobbseehehe03:14
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UbugtuNew bug: #78443 in kdesdk (main) "Kcachegrind: graphviz caller graph only partially drawn (no boxes)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7844303:40
UbugtuNew bug: #78444 in gnome-art (universe) "gnome-splashscreen-manager 0.2-3 Help > About "Close" button non-working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7844403:40
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UbugtuNew bug: #78446 in Ubuntu "Bad wording when "X system keyboard settings differ from your current GNOME keyboard settings"" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7844603:45
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=== gnomefreak starting to hate email :(\
Hobbseegnomefreak: why so?03:51
gnomefreaktoo many03:51
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gnomefreakim at about 100 emails every 2-3 hours03:51
crimsunI'm at 100 every 15 minutes.03:51
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marnanelgnomefreak: due to spam? or legit email?03:59
gnomefreaklegit04:00
UbugtuNew bug: #71760 in mozilla-firefox-locale-all (main) "mozilla-firefox-locale-lt should be returned back to main from universe" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7176004:00
gnomefreakthunderbird doesnt give me much spam at all i have to go to server to get that04:00
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UbugtuNew bug: #78448 in xen-3.0 (universe) "Xen: default gateway lost" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7844804:06
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bddebianBoo04:10
ograbee04:11
HobbseeBLING!!!04:11
bddebian:-)04:11
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UbugtuNew bug: #78449 in xserver-xorg-driver-i810 (main) "Xorg+gdm goes into restart loop after crash caused by running some OpenGL applications" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7844904:16
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UbugtuNew bug: #78450 in Ubuntu "applet crashes on login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7845004:21
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UbugtuNew bug: #78453 in cacti (universe) "cacti remote injection exploit" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7845304:30
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UbugtuNew bug: #73510 in cupsys (main) "Missing dependency for update-inetd" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7351004:36
UbugtuNew bug: #78455 in checkinstall (universe) "checkinstall aborts due to missing file or directory" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7845504:40
UbugtuNew bug: #78456 in Ubuntu "installer complains about 'no root fs' although it's selected" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7845604:40
UbugtuNew bug: #78457 in portmap (main) "[Feisty]  portmap missing after upgrade from Edgy?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7845704:45
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UbugtuNew bug: #78460 in synaptic (main) "Synaptic seg fault" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7846005:05
UbugtuNew bug: #78461 in cowdancer (universe) "please sync cowdancer 0.25 from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7846105:05
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UbugtuNew bug: #78462 in Ubuntu "Please sync libdbus-java from Debian Sid" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7846205:36
UbugtuNew bug: #78463 in xserver-xgl (universe) "Xgl not starting" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7846305:36
dholbachheno: at some stage we need to decide about the xml format that bughelper uses05:38
henodholbach: for the info files you mean, right05:38
dholbachheno: once we have sorted that out we can start hacking on it and I'm sure once we have that platform other people will help out as well05:38
dholbachyep05:39
dholbachat the moment bughelper uses   .info.old   files (if you merged from my branch already)05:39
henowhat is there to decide? I'm happy with your proposed layout05:39
dholbachoh ok05:39
henoyes, I noticed05:39
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dholbachI don't think it covers all cases yet, but I think it's a good start05:40
dholbachfor next release we should have some specs about it too05:40
henoIt covers several ANDs and NOTs, which is already quite good. Is there any point in allowing nesting them05:43
henoThe main problem might be sitting down and writing/updating the files05:44
dholbachyes05:44
dholbachah ok, now i understand05:44
dholbachhmmmmm05:44
dholbachyou don't have to nest, if you don't want05:44
henoThere is probably a strong case for simplicity to start with05:44
dholbachthe example i made up - is that simple enough?05:44
henoYes, I would say so05:46
dholbachok cool05:46
dholbachI'll try to write up something spec like, at least some ordered bullet points and take some of them, so we don't end up doing the same work twice05:47
dholbachonce the xml format works roughly we can ask people to dump all their knowledge into the bughelper05:47
dholbachand write small tutorials to do that05:47
dholbachit will be SO good05:47
henoheh, yeah. Just need some users05:48
dholbachand I thought, I'd add a   -v   which shows general information about that package05:49
henoso are you planning on putting this in universe or something, so it can be apt-get installed?05:49
dholbachsure05:49
henoright05:50
dholbachi added a debian/ dir in one of the commits05:50
henowe should think about how people would share info files05:50
henowould they always be in ~/ or with the app?05:50
dholbachgood question05:51
henoshould they be stored centrally in the bzr repo05:51
UbugtuNew bug: #78467 in nicotine (universe) "Please add Lithuanian translation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7846705:51
UbugtuNew bug: #78468 in fontforge (main) "Fontforge loads .so files directly without version number" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7846805:51
UbugtuNew bug: #78469 in psi (universe) "Psi doesn't handle (yahoo) gateway connection intelligently enough" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7846905:51
UbugtuNew bug: #78470 in gdm (main) "switching to current logged in user freezes gdm" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7847005:51
henousing bh, step 1. grab the latest info tree05:51
dholbachmaybe in the bzr repo and have some operation to get up-to-date05:51
dholbachor we have two separate branches and separate packages05:51
dholbachwe could have daily checkouts+builds of the bughelper-data package05:52
henoyep, and allow people to have local files in ~/ to supplement/overide the default05:52
dholbachbetter to train people to update the -data branch every now and then - I think it's best to have it in a branch somewhere05:53
UbugtuNew bug: #78472 in mono (main) "mono crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7847205:55
henodholbach: hm, but how do you even edit files locally? right in /usr/lib/whatever?05:57
henoI think a lot of people will use bh semi-interactively when hunting for bugs -- 'let's put this in and see what comes out'05:58
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UbugtuNew bug: #78473 in gossip-telepathy (universe) "Gossip-telepathy crashes while connecting" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7847306:05
UbugtuNew bug: #78474 in gajim (universe) "Gajim doesn't handle (yahoo) gateway connections intelligently enough" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7847406:05
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gnomefreakmvo_: is there something that would cause a malformed entry in sources.list when there isnt one?06:15
mvo_gnomefreak: the source.list editor in synaptic might cause one (that would be a bug in it of course)06:15
gnomefreakthat sounds like a good chance since he used synaptic to set sources. but i gave him a new list that i know is good06:16
mvo_gnomefreak: what does the new list look like? in what way is it corrupted?06:17
UbugtuNew bug: #78475 in gdm (main) "gdmsetup doesn't open" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7847506:17
UbugtuNew bug: #78476 in libgd2 (main) "libgd2 project, new maintainership, new CVS, new issue tracker" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7847606:17
UbugtuNew bug: #78477 in Ubuntu "on kde logout all disk partition are umounted " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7847706:17
gnomefreakmvo_: its not corrupt i will show you it06:17
chantrahi, can anyone using feisty confirm this bug: https://launchpad.net/bugs/7847006:17
UbugtuMalone bug 78470 in gdm "switching to current logged in user freezes gdm" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 06:17
gnomefreakhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/839/plain/   its says line 2 is malformed06:18
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chantragnomefreak: maybe some kind of special cahracter are messing the list up?06:19
gnomefreakchantra: im having him re paste it but he swears there isnt i had him check 3 times06:20
chantraopening with vi, is there any ^R or whatever characters?06:20
mvo_gnomefreak: strage, works for me (on edgy). maybe the misformated line is in a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d?06:20
gnomefreakah06:20
gnomefreakcan we safely sudo rm that?06:21
chantragnomefreak: this settings works here as well06:22
gnomefreakchantra: works here as well thats what makes me wonder but hes pasting full list to me and its exactly the same06:23
chantra:s06:24
chantraI'm not sure weird character will be dispayed by pastebin :(06:24
UbugtuNew bug: #78478 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Package: linux-image-2.6.20-5-generic fails to install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7847806:25
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kikohello there! is anyone in favor or against bug 2796?06:27
UbugtuMalone bug 2796 in malone "Remove constraint on marking duplicates of duplicates" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/279606:27
kikowe display the correct target to be duplicating against today06:27
kikoand having a single dupe target is a valuable thing06:27
gnomefreakim gonna have him email me the file if he can06:29
chantrayep, will be better I guess06:33
persiakiko: I'm in favour of 2796.  Sometimes it only becomes obvious two bus are the same after each has a few duplicates (especially shortly after a release (either real or snapshot)06:34
seb128kiko: how is it valuable?06:34
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gnomefreakmvo_: you were right once again i had him mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d and it works so i think im gonna have him delete it see if it gets remade06:36
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kikopersia, we already do the right thing and duplicate against the correct master when indicating a bug is a dupe of a dupe, though..06:37
kikoseb128, I think having dupes of dupes will only make duplicates less visible and for that reason less valuable06:38
kiko(and duplicates are already not very valuable as it is)06:38
seb128kiko: duplicates are noise anyway06:39
seb128we just want to get them out of the way06:39
seb128the only interesting part is the dup counter06:40
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seb128and launchpad could do the maths without forcing to dup everything from the same bug no?06:40
UbugtuNew bug: #78479 in debtags (main) "[edgy]  debtags crash during search" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7847906:40
UbugtuNew bug: #78480 in libsexymm (universe) "[Sync Request]  Sync libsexymm (0.1.9-2) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7848006:40
kikoseb128, we do the maths already.06:41
kikoseb128, however, there is one situation where this isn't done06:41
seb128well, you force to dup from the same bug, there is no math to do06:41
persiakiko: My apologies.  I was not clear.  My hypothetical example is that 100 is opened (inapproprate behaviour in foo), followed by 105 (foo corrupts data), 110 is a duplicate of 100, and 115 a duplicate of 105.  A developer discovers that there is a pointer error that can either cause inappropriate behaviour or corruption, but is unable to solve it, and wants to merge 100 and 105 (and cannot).  On the other hand, I agree that t06:41
kikono06:41
seb128I often find it anoying06:42
kikoseb128, you can visit a bug and dupe it against any other bug -- we just go and dupe it against the right place.06:42
seb128one reason is the one mentioned by persia06:42
kikothe only issue remaining is the one persia points out.06:42
seb128sometime I've to update like 10 bugs only to mark a duplicate06:42
kikobut I ask myself if we're not better off having a special way to handle that (more rare) case06:42
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kikorarer? what a horrible word06:42
seb128well, I don't get the value of forcing to dup from the same bug06:43
persiakiko: uncommon or less common06:43
seb128B and C are dup for A06:43
seb128come D06:43
seb128how does it mater than you dupe it from B, C or A?06:43
kikoseb128, it doesn't matter, and that's how launchpad works right now.06:44
kikoit used to be that we required you to dupe against A06:44
seb128ah ok06:44
kikowe now transparently do the maths for you.06:44
persiakiko: That's a nice improvement.  Thanks.06:44
seb128I've not noticed the new behaviour yet then06:44
kikothe only remaining issue is what persia was pointing out06:44
seb128so what is your question about? ;)06:44
kikobut I think that relaxing the constraint is not the answer to it.06:44
seb128well06:44
kikoseb128, whether we should relax the constraint and allow dupes of dupes06:45
kikowhich would make the dupe counter either useless or much harder to calculate.06:45
seb128make launchpad update all the dups automatically06:45
persiakiko: I don't think dupes of dupes is useful: could LP do the math to merge the trees?06:45
kikoright06:45
kikoyes06:45
kikoit could.06:45
dholbachheno: you're right..06:45
persiakiko: I'd consider that a fine solution to the bug, in terms of easing workflow.06:45
kikoso if I dupe bug A which has dupes X, Y and Z to bug B, which has dupes V and W, we'd move X, Y and Z over.06:45
kikothanks for your input persia.06:46
seb128kiko: yeah, updating X, Y, Z to reflect the change made to A looks fine06:46
persiakiko: Thanks for pointing out the bug: I'd never have seen it.06:46
kikoI only remembered it because matt revell typo'd in the #launchpad channel. :)06:47
henodholbach: I guess you could manually symlink from /usr/lib/bh/whatever to ~/myinfofiles/ and sync that when you were ready06:47
henothat's probably how I'd do it, but it seems a bit hacky06:48
dholbachheno: yes... it'd be better to have some defined places we check, then the current directory, and so on - which in fact is what bh does atm already06:49
dholbachheno: we just need to think of some more cases06:49
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UbugtuNew bug: #78481 in firefox (main) "firefax shuts down" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7848106:51
UbugtuNew bug: #78482 in openoffice "wmf file handling wrong" [Unknown,Unknown]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7848206:51
gnomefreakwas the side pane removed from nautilus for some reason06:55
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marnaneleh, it sounds like you are in... sorry, lost the word06:57
marnanelthere's a mode that has it. like "place-ful"06:57
marnanelbah.06:57
marnanelspatial?06:57
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gnomefreaknot sure06:58
gnomefreakah double click the edgy06:59
gnomefreaki guess i closed it by mistake06:59
chantrahi guys, after creating a new user, the tab completion is not working? is this normal behaviour?07:05
UbugtuNew bug: #78483 in xchm (universe) "The program crashes when I try to open CHM file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7848307:06
UbugtuNew bug: #78484 in gnome-btdownload (main) "Gnome BitTorrent closed unexpectedly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7848407:06
chantrathe user is using /bin/sh (from /etc/password)07:06
chantraI know that /bin/sh moved from bash to dash, this is a pretty anoying behaviour though :s07:07
UbugtuNew bug: #78485 in gaim (main) "It Crashed Randomly (and annoyed me)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7848507:10
zulheh...07:12
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chantrashould bug 73502 being mark as duplicate of 74956 ?07:17
UbugtuMalone bug 73502 in gnome-btdownload "[Feisty]  gnome-btdownload broken" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7350207:17
chantraas the reason gnome-btdownload does not work is due to bug 7495607:18
UbugtuMalone bug 74956 in python-defaults "[Feisty]  Can't import python module" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7495607:18
UbugtuNew bug: #78487 in mail-notification (universe) "Notifies of "new" old mail when unread buffer is overrun" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7848707:20
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UbugtuNew bug: #78488 in libmtp (main) "libtmp-sendtr crash when trying to manually send track" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7848807:25
UbugtuNew bug: #78486 in libapache-mod-auth-kerb (universe) "remote heap buffer overflow DoS/code exec" [Unknown,Unknown]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7848607:26
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UbugtuNew bug: #78489 in openoffice.org (main) "ooo 2.1 splash screen says 2.0" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7848907:35
UbugtuNew bug: #78491 in network-manager (main) "network-manager insists on connecting to wireless network, even if wireless option is disabled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7849107:40
UbugtuNew bug: #78490 in abuse-sdl (universe) "can't shoot to the left" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7849007:45
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UbugtuNew bug: #71814 in ubiquity (main) "installer keeps crashing on kubuntu 64 live cd" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7181407:50
UbugtuNew bug: #78492 in gaim (main) "Gaim crashed with no apparent reason (msn_switchboard_release)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7849207:50
UbugtuNew bug: #78493 in gnome-system-tools (main) "setting static IP with network-admin makes GNOME startup slow" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7849307:50
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UbugtuNew bug: #71736 in ubiquity (main) "Installer Crashed Kubuntu (dup-of: 52682)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7173607:56
Luresfllaw: any suggestion on the last comment in bug 2567308:00
UbugtuMalone bug 25673 in linux-source-2.6.17 "Keyboard and touchpad doesn't work after suspend-to-ram on a Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo M1420" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/2567308:00
Luresfllaw: I think some kind of policy should be defined how to handle bugs that are fixed in latest release, but not in all supported releases08:01
sfllawLure: There's a general guideline.08:02
Luresfllaw: I know about sru, but are we supposed to test with all supported releases?08:03
sfllawNot if we're not uploading to all supported releases.08:03
sfllawIt seems very unlikely that we'd fix this particular issue in Dapper.08:03
sfllawEspecially since it runs a different kernel.08:04
Luresfllaw: I think the problem is that most bugs are fixed in devel version, so backport has to be requested anyhow08:04
Lureso I do not think we should handle it any different if it is known that released version fixed the problem08:04
sfllawBackporting the kernel would be interesting.08:04
zulicky..08:05
sfllawBut not something I think we can support.08:05
sfllawLike zul said.08:05
LureI think if anybody thinks it is important for other release (like LTS), they should "Nominate for Release"08:05
Luresfllaw: true for kernel, but the same is true in general for any package.08:05
Lureok, I will write nice response to this guy08:06
sfllawThanks.08:06
zulsfllaw: if it is something simple then we can probably rip the parts out and backport what is needed08:06
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sfllawThat's what we've been doing with edgy-updates.08:06
sfllawBut dapper is pretty stable.  Unless there's a critical bug, it's unlikely we'll fix things there.08:06
sfllawAfter all, people are building things on dapper and presume they'll stay the same.08:07
Luresfllaw: done08:18
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UbugtuNew bug: #78496 in mono (main) "Mono crashed while donwloading a .rar file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7849608:26
UbugtuNew bug: #78497 in doodle (universe) "doodled package can't be removed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7849708:29
UbugtuNew bug: #78500 in control-center (main) "gnome-control-center wipes out /home/user" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7850008:45
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UbugtuNew bug: #78502 in Ubuntu "xubuntu no sound card vaio 505g" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7850209:00
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UbugtuNew bug: #78504 in neverball (universe) "package version is too high" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7850409:10
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UbugtuNew bug: #78506 in ubiquity (main) "installer crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7850609:51
UbugtuNew bug: #78507 in devede (multiverse) "version is outdated" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7850709:51
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UbugtuNew bug: #78505 in Ubuntu "NTFS and FAT partitions mounted with executable bits" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7850509:56
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UbugtuNew bug: #78508 in cryptsetup (universe) "lukfsformat doesn't use strongest cipher by default" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7850810:06
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UbugtuNew bug: #78509 in ubiquity (main) "Install crash at the time of partitioning" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7850910:15
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UbugtuNew bug: #78510 in firefox (main) "file dialog cuts filename " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7851010:30
UbugtuNew bug: #78511 in gnome-panel (main) "Gnome-panel flashing for kde apps on workspace change" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7851110:30
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davmor2Quick query I had a bug in gossip-telepathy which bug-buddy duly noted but the bug was sent to bugzilla not malone is this correct behavior?10:39
UbugtuNew bug: #69443 in xmms-scrobbler (universe) "patch for scrobbling cd audio" [Unknown,Unknown]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6944310:40
dsasdavmor2: bug-buddy does send things straight upstream yes.10:50
dsasdavmor2: the desktop took that decision rather than using the apport-gtk program that is otherwise used in Ubuntu.10:51
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davmor2dsas: Thanks for that is there anyway I can take the reports that are produced and drop them into apport-gtk also and then link the two reports?10:55
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dsasdavmor2: There is, first file a new bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gossip-telepathy/+filebug11:00
dsasthen press "also affects upstream" and fill in the form to link them.11:01
davmor2dsas will that take the info from the upstream version then?11:02
dsasdavmor2: Yes, it should prompt you for the upstream bug URL.11:02
dsasdavmor2: You probably want to copy and paste the info from the upstream bug report directly into the new ubuntu bug though.11:02
davmor2dsas: superb thanks for the info.  Shall go off and do it immediately :)11:04
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UbugtuNew bug: #78512 in Ubuntu "Core 2 Duo, on resume 2nd core frequency scaling reset" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7851211:21
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UbugtuNew bug: #78513 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Current ACX driver will not let USR5410 card function properly." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7851311:36
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UbugtuNew bug: #78514 in hardinfo (universe) "Crash on trying to view kernel modules" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7851411:45
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