[09:39] <[miles] > morning
[10:08] <fabbione> morning
[12:17] <J_P> hi all
[02:39] <J_P> people, I would like know if what machine is better for run ubuntu + postgresql : "Pentium 4 D 3.2GHz" or "Pentium Core2 Duo 1,8GHz". Remeber OS is Linux 32 bit
[02:41] <ivoks> Core2 is better than Pentium
[02:41] <ivoks> for everything
[02:41] <jsgotangco> aye
[02:42] <J_P> ivoks: but did you see clock diference ? 
[02:43] <ivoks> J_P: yes
[02:45] <J_P> ivoks: but so with that diference the core2 is better ?
[02:46] <ivoks> well, AMD has lower clock speed too, and better performance than Pentium
[02:47] <J_P> humm I will be choice de core two duo so :-)
[02:50] <ivoks> core2 includes better MB + better chipset
[02:51] <J_P> ivoks:  I did one test here now in two machines : tar -xzvf file.tar.gz.
[02:51] <J_P> core2 = real    3m22.843s
[02:51] <J_P> user    0m39.660s
[02:51] <J_P> sys     0m15.940s
[02:51] <J_P> p4 D = real    3m17.146s
[02:51] <J_P> user    0m34.110s
[02:51] <J_P> sys     0m21.500s
[02:51] <J_P> core2 is 1,8 and P4 D is 3.2
[02:52] <ivoks> same FS?
[02:52] <ivoks> same HD?
[02:52] <J_P> ivoks: yes, and in core two is one HD. In p4 D is two (doing RAID 1 via software)
[02:53] <J_P> ivoks: hd is diferent.. but both 7200rpm
[02:53] <ivoks> heh :)
[02:53] <J_P> but pD are doing raid1 (so is more slow)
[02:53] <J_P> need write in two hds
[02:53] <J_P> and result test was more speed
[02:53] <ivoks> it doesn't work like that...
[02:54] <J_P> what ?
[02:54] <ivoks> raid has some caching, right?
[02:54] <ivoks> try with gcc
[02:54] <J_P> I think yes
[02:54] <J_P> ivoks: you have one example ?
[02:54] <ivoks> so, it reports it's written, while it is not (not yet)
[02:55] <J_P> ok, do you have one example to test with gcc 
[02:55] <J_P> ?
[02:55] <ivoks> try compiling kernel
[02:55] <ivoks> or povray
[02:56] <J_P> one povray example ?
[02:56] <J_P> :-)
[02:56] <ivoks> install povray
[02:57] <ivoks> and povray-3.5-includes
[02:59] <ivoks> and povray-3.5-examples
[03:00] <J_P> ivoks: what example do you recommend run ?
[03:01] <ivoks> which ever you want
[03:01] <J_P> ok. I will do taht tests..
[03:02] <J_P> and after I tell you the result :-)
[03:03] <ivoks> for example
[03:03] <ivoks> in /usr/share/doc/povray-3.5/examples/advanced
[03:03] <ivoks> povray +H1000 +W1000 mist.pov 
[03:05] <ivoks> or even
[03:05] <ivoks> povray +H3000 +W3000 mist.pov 
[03:05] <ivoks> (it's longer, so it would give better results)
[03:07] <ivoks> on intel core (not core2, but core) duo@1.83 it takes 2:20 (with only one core)
[03:12] <ivoks> this is diskless test
[04:11] <[miles] > anyone know the exact difference between a MD5 password, and a MD5 crypted password from /etc/shadow?
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