[12:00] <mwe> rnalexander: yeah
[12:01] <Philluminati> I don't know why I'm here. I use fedora
[12:01] <PORDO> Philluminati lol
[12:01] <jazzrocker> lol... so then isn't "debian unstable" kind of an oxymoron?
[12:01] <rnalexander> Looks like all the way through etc and a bit of dev.
[12:01] <Wimpog> HOW TO to set a mysql root password?
[12:01] <mwe> rnalexander: chown -R root.root /etc then change cups
[12:01] <sten_> Philluminati: how long has it been since your last confession?
[12:01] <Philluminati> It does look nice tho. It's one i'm eventually going to check.
[12:01] <mnoir> Philluminati: cuz you wish you were using ubuntu
[12:01] <jazzrocker> Wimpog, howto ask #mysql?
[12:01] <ghatak> un_operateur: yea i carry around my laptop so i will be able to show off :)
[12:01] <PORDO> Wimpog are you trying to ask, "How do I set a mysql root password?"
[12:01] <pianoboy3333> When I try and print to a printer connected to an XP computer, in the printer's preferences, I get this error: Printing: No %%BoundingBox: comment in header! What does that mean?
[12:02] <un_operateur> jazzrocker, it is .. but most common users shouldnt be using "debian unstable" anyway :)
[12:02] <jazzrocker> PORDO, yes he is
[12:02] <Wimpog> YES, in mysql server
[12:02] <Philluminati> I had to switch away from Suse quick and fedora was on the front of the magazine. What can I say?
[12:02] <rnalexander> ok, what should I change cups to  ryan.root?
[12:02] <jazzrocker> un_operateur, indeed
[12:02] <Wimpog> #mysql
[12:02] <mwe> rnalexander: no
[12:02] <Wimpog> 
[12:02] -Evil[BOT] :#ubuntu- pen0r
[12:02] <wkerzend> i have ubuntu dapper installed and software update doesnt show a new distribution
[12:02] <Cambo> Hello all
[12:02] <jazzrocker> Wimpog, ask the #mysql channel, not us
[12:02] <mwe> rnalexander: chown /etc/cups cupsys.lp
[12:02] <Wimpog> OK, thanks
[12:02] <Cambo> hello everyone i would like a bit of help
[12:02] <un_operateur> wkerzend, you'll need to add the edgy repos to sources.list
[12:02] <Cambo> hello everyone i would like a bit of help
[12:03] <un_operateur> !upgrade | wkerzend
[12:03] <ubotu> wkerzend: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:03] <jazzrocker> Cambo, i would like a pony
[12:03] <rnalexander> WME, need a user to own it to.
[12:03] <ghatak> Cambo: dont ask to ask, just ask the question mate
[12:03] <mwe> rnalexander: classes.conf cupsd.conf ppd ppd/* printers.* and ssl in /etc/cups should be cupsys.lp as well
[12:03] <CDB> I got access to my linux box from winxp using samba, but I still can't "authenticate" windows from linux. It resolves but when I try to connect to the windows share, it asks for a domain and a password, but i am not under a domain. Everything I try fails.
[12:03] <mwe> rnalexander: cupsys
[12:03] <wkerzend> un_operateur: thanks
[12:03] <jazzrocker> CDB, ask #samba ?
[12:03] <mwe> rnalexander: chown cupsys.lp /etc/cups
[12:04] <sten_> zkerzend: some people found that the Edgy upgrade broke their X.  I found that it slightly broke my Cupsd.  (some HP drivers were re-organized)
[12:04] <Cambo> Ok then does anyone remember on windows the novel messenger where if you send a mesage to a user it just pops up is there a linux alternative?
[12:04] <jazzrocker> CDB, there's a fairly good samba-HOWTO at tldp.org that's what i used
[12:04] <jazzrocker> Cambo, yup, it's called GAIM
[12:04] <rnalexander> mwe, should I chown each of those files you listed or just to the directory recursively?
[12:04] <juano> CDB: go to /etc/samba/smb.conf and change security = user to security = share
[12:04] <mwe> rnalexander: classes.conf cupsd.conf ppd ppd/* printers.* and ssl in /etc/cups as well
[12:04] <sten_> zkerzend: it was easy to fix though--I just re-selected my driver of choice. (HPLIP, I think)
[12:04] <Cambo> ok jazzrocker im just going to try that out brb 10 mins
[12:04] <mwe> rnalexander: /etc/cups should not be changed recursively
[12:05] <un_operateur> Cambo, there's a samba-dependant one called linpopup (i think)
[12:05] <CDB> thanks guys. i'll check it all out
[12:05] <CDB> :)
[12:05] <Cambo> nan i dont like linpopup
[12:05] <juano> CDB: also, activate guest account on windows
[12:05] <mwe> rnalexander: some files need to be root.root other (the ones I listed) need cupsys.lp
[12:05] <Cambo> in gaim what new account type do i make?
[12:05] <killown> my sound card not work  with all modules up
[12:05] <mwe> rnalexander: and the /etc/cups dir itself should be cupsys.lp as well
[12:05] <jazzrocker> Cambo, any type you like... don't think you can *make* accounts in gaim
[12:05] <killown> what happen?
[12:05] <mwe> rnalexander: etc is the hardest. the rest will be easy
[12:06] <killown> anyone can help - me please
[12:06] <rnalexander> mwe, I can't find those files.  they're not in the cups directory.
[12:06] <jazzrocker> Cambo, you must *have* an account with one of those services already... AIM, MSN, Yahoo!, Google Talk, Jabber, ICQ, whatever
[12:06] <mwe> rnalexander: what's in it
[12:06] <daubs> anyone know how imminent a failure is if smart tells you your hd is at risk of imminent failure?
[12:06] <Cambo>  i was thinking of a LAN only thing
[12:06] <jazzrocker> lol @ daubs
[12:06] <ghatak> just use a browser mate, meebo.com
[12:06] <killown> please
[12:06] <daubs> My girlfriends machine has just told her that
[12:06] <Cambo> are you talking to me ghatak
[12:06] <killown> how I get alsa-conf
[12:06] <Philluminati> Cambo. You said 'novell messenger'. Is that a part of Novell Netware?
[12:06] <daubs> its been flitting on and off for weeks
[12:07] <mwe> rnalexander: maybe cups is not configured. did you configure printing?
[12:07] <ghatak> Cambo: yeps, just use plain old FF+Meebo.com
[12:07] <un_operateur> Cambo, if you want a purely linux commandline one, write works
[12:07] <rnalexander> mwe command.types cupst.conf interfaces mime.convs mime.types ppd printers.conf printer.conf.0 pstoraster.convs raw.convs raw.types ssl
[12:07] <jazzrocker> daubs, umm... well then it's very obvious what imminent means
[12:07] <jazzrocker> daubs, it means backup now cuz who knows
[12:07] <mwe> rnalexander: yeah
[12:07] <daubs> lol
[12:07] <jazzrocker> daubs, do you know what a dictionary is?
[12:07] <Cambo> do you no that think and just click send mesaage to cameron.calver and  stuff so you dont even have to have to ap  running
[12:08] <mwe> rnalexander: chown cupsys.lp /etc/cups/printers.*
[12:08] <mwe> rnalexander: and chown -R cupsys.lp /etc/cups/ppd
[12:08] <killown> please
[12:08] <daubs> jazzrocker, yes, but I was wondering if it was worthwhile paying the extra for a 24 hour delivery on a new drive or letting it go slow
[12:08] <Cambo> un_operateur where do i get write
[12:08] <un_operateur> Cambo, in english please .. :)
[12:08] <killown> my sound not works
[12:08] <jazzrocker> killown, with all ALSA modules up?
[12:08] <un_operateur> Cambo, at your terminal -- man write
[12:08] <daubs> I mean government imminent usualy means a month or so
[12:08] <jazzrocker> killown, last i saw you were using OSS, not ALSA... and what sound card do you have
[12:08] <rnalexander> mwe, done!
[12:08] <killown> jazzrocker I not found command alsa-conf
[12:08] <mwe> rnalexander: and chown cupsys.lp /etc/cups/ssl and chown cupsys.lp /etc/cups/cupsd.conf. phew
[12:09] <xenex> !dualboot
[12:09] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[12:09] <mwe> rnalexander: I think that was it
[12:09] <Cambo>  ok i have to guys anyway talk yo you later
[12:09] <rnalexander> mwe, confirmed the ppd directory is changed.
[12:09] <jazzrocker> killown, don't assume to know the answer to your question... alsaconf may or may not be the solution to your problem
[12:09] <mwe> rnalexander: ls -l /etc/cups what's not owned by cupsys?
[12:09] <Philluminati> cambo. Your thinking of novells netware wrapper for "net send *pc* *message*"
[12:09] <jazzrocker> killown, i'll ask you once more... what sound card do you have?
[12:09] <Philluminati> ?
[12:09] <un_operateur> killown, it's alsaconf not alsa-conf
[12:10] <mwe> rnalexander: is this edgy by the way?
[12:10] <killown> but I yet show to you my modules works
[12:10] <killown> in pastebin
[12:10] <jazzrocker> killown, wrong answer... let someone else help you, bye
[12:10] <rnalexander> mwe yes, it's an edgy upgrade form dapper.
[12:10] <killown> un_operateur alsaconf too not found
[12:10] <mwe> rnalexander: yeah
[12:10] <mwe> rnalexander: ls -l /etc/cups what's not owned by cupsys?
[12:11] <un_operateur> killown, maybe you need to install the alsa-utils and alsa-base packages then
[12:11] <killown> jazzrocker, Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
[12:11] <rnalexander> everything is root in /etc/cups except for ppd printers.conf and printers.conf.0
[12:11] <killown> un_operateur I have alsa-utils installed
[12:11] <rnalexander> so it's command.types
[12:11] <mwe> rnalexander: huh
[12:11] <rnalexander> cupsd.conf interfaces mime.convs mime.types
[12:11] <un_operateur> killown, try the fqpn of the command then -- /usr/sbin/alsaconf
[12:11] <jazzrocker> killown, ok that's better... it's a fairly standard chipset
[12:11] <rnalexander> pstoraster.convs raw.convs raw.types ssl
[12:11] <mwe> rnalexander: who owns cupsd.conf
[12:12] <un_operateur> killown, it's probably because /usr/sbin isnt in your path
[12:12] <rnalexander> mwe, root owns cupsd.conf
[12:12] <killown> un_operateur sound card was working yesterday
[12:12] <killown> hm
[12:12] <jazzrocker> un_operateur, he doesn't even have the ALSA modules loaded in his kernel... he showed me his lsmod and he has OSS
[12:12] <mwe> rnalexander: should be cupsys.lp as well as shold ssl
[12:12] <mwe> rnalexander: change them
[12:12] <killown> jazzrocker yes
[12:12] <jazzrocker> killown, ok what are the various things you've done between yesterday and now
[12:12] <killown> un_operateur, oss
[12:12] <xenex> how do i install ubuntu when i already made windows 40gb out of 74gb? i'm at the partition part in ubuntu
[12:12] <un_operateur> killown, what does  asounconf list show you
[12:12] <killown> but kde say cpu overload crash sound
[12:13] <uberspaced> ahhh
[12:13] <un_operateur> killown, alsa and oss can be installed simultaneously
[12:13] <jazzrocker> hahahah
[12:13] <uberspaced> installed latest version of kubuntu, have some problems
[12:13] <juano> xenex: you can select, use continuos free space
[12:13] <jazzrocker> KDE is a peice of shit
[12:13] <un_operateur> jazzrocker, errm, what alsa modules would one expect to have loaded? :)
[12:13] <ggergely> yeah
[12:13] <uberspaced> uncommented some lines in apt sources
[12:13] <killown> aaaa
[12:13] <PriceChild> !language | jazzrocker
[12:13] <ubotu> jazzrocker: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:13] <ggergely> tvm' the best :)
[12:13] <mwe> rnalexander: did you changed them? you're almost done now
[12:13] <jpjacobs> xenex, i recommend making a seperate homepartition.
[12:13] <uberspaced> now apt wont get stuff
[12:13] <uberspaced> err, apt wont get xchat
[12:13] <uberspaced> forced to use irssi instead
[12:13] <juano> xenex: that option will use the remaining 34 GB for ubuntu
[12:13] <uberspaced> kindof nifty looking.
[12:13] <killown> Names of available sound cards: V8237
[12:13] <xenex> juano: what about swap?
[12:13] <jazzrocker> ggergely, you mean twm?
[12:13] <rnalexander> mwe both cupsd.conf and ssl are now owned cupsys lp
[12:13] <killown> un_operateur,
[12:14] <mwe> rnalexander: good I think that was it. the rest will be easy
[12:14] <un_operateur> killown, try setting the default card using asoundconf
[12:14] <imbecile> i was wondering if anyone in the states could successfully place a call with http://www.ip-relay.com/   ... i have the flash i just cannot type in the box
[12:14] <uberspaced> how do i tell what release of ubuntu i'm using?
[12:14] <juano> xenex: by selecting that option, swap and boot partitions are automatically made and configured
[12:14] <killown> un_operateur certo!
[12:14] <jrib> !version | uberspaced
[12:14] <ubotu> uberspaced: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[12:14] <uberspaced> i think im on edgy
[12:14] <rnalexander> mwe, thanks!  what's the rest?  just waiting for errors as they pop up and changing them when they appear?
[12:14] <ggergely> yeah :)
[12:14] <ggergely> that's soo cool
[12:14] <mwe> rnalexander: ls -l / and chown -R root.root any dir that's not root.root except home
[12:14] <blanky> hey guys
[12:15] <uberspaced> ok, yeah, i'm on edgy
[12:15] <Peebo> Can anyone explain why none of the media players will play a file across a samba network
[12:15] <killown> un_operateur, I set it
[12:15] <ggergely> btw I use gnome, but also like afterstep
[12:15] <killown> but not happen
[12:15] <juano> xenex: there's no need to manually partition if you dont want to waste time :P
[12:15] <killown> asoundconf reset-default-card v8237
[12:15] <ggergely> and gnustep/wmaker
[12:15] <un_operateur> Peebo, they all can
[12:15] <blanky> i have a question, I have 2 extra mouse buttons on my mouse, and on windows one goes back and the other goes forth in firefox/internet explorer, how can i do this on ubuntu ?
[12:15] <mwe> rnalexander: chown root.root /home (not recursively!)
[12:15] <uberspaced> so.  first, i guess i would like to get apt fixed.  i uncommented some lines and added multiverse to the end of some lines, and when i do apt-get update, it complains about not being able to find universe packages.
[12:15] <rnalexander> mwe, cool, there's only three.
[12:15] <rnalexander> one sec.
[12:15] <Peebo> Would I ask the question if that was the case.
[12:15] <un_operateur> killown, errm, you need -- asoundconf set-default-card CARD
[12:15] <juano> blanky: you mean the wheel?
[12:16] <blanky> juano: no
[12:16] <jazzrocker> blanky, that has to do with your X config... /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:16] <mwe> rnalexander: confirm with the find command afterwards
[12:16] <un_operateur> Peebo, ask your question
[12:16] <blanky> jazzrocker: I know that...
[12:16] <blanky> I'm wondering HOW to do it :P
[12:16] <killown> un_operateur, asoundconf set-default-card v8237 I yet do it
[12:16] <killown> but not happen
[12:16] <uberspaced> !paste
[12:16] <ubotu> paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[12:16] <jazzrocker> blanky, tldp, the wiki, google... i'm sure they all know
[12:16] <Peebo> Totem could not play 'smb://mode66;uuuuuuuuu@xxxxxxxx/music/Santana/Carlos Santana - All That I Am - 05 - Just Feel Better (Feat. Steven Tyler Of Aerosmith).mp3'.
[12:16] <un_operateur> killown, do you have esd/esound installed too ?
[12:16] <rnalexander> mwe ok, it's bin boot and build and the cdrom drive, I guess I stopped it before it got too far.  home is still root.
[12:16] <blanky> jazzrocker: Except, I'm asking the channel
[12:17] <ailean> hey gnomefreak
[12:17] <jazzrocker> blanky, yeah except if you haven't googled first we're going to tell you to google first
[12:17] <killown> un_operateur, xmms player its player music  but dont return sound
[12:17] <juano> blanky: what mouse you got?
[12:17] <mwe> rnalexander: good. /home/ryan is ryan?
[12:17] <gnomefreak> hi
[12:17] <killown> un_operateur I go to check now
[12:17] <blanky> juano: a razer diamond back
[12:17] <insane_alien> anyone know how to limit bandwidth on a device?
[12:17] <un_operateur> Peebo, why not mount your samba folder locally and then play via the local folder?
[12:17] <jazzrocker> blanky, ewww... i've got the same actually
[12:17] <jazzrocker> blanky, how can you stand that thing on *nix?
[12:17] <blanky> jazzrocker: be logical, if I knew what to look for I would of course google it
[12:17] <Peebo> the error is           Could not read from resource.
[12:17] <blanky> jazzrocker: I like it, haha
[12:17] <tony_> hey I'm having some problems with an orinoco card... ifconfig says it's connected to the wireless network, but no intarwebs, and the wireless router can't see the laptop...
[12:17] <mwe> rnalexander: chown -R root.root /boot and /bin and /cdrom
[12:17] <rnalexander> mwe, /home is root root, /home/ryan is ryan ryan
[12:17] <joxnil> HELP! Trying to get dual-screen to work, but it won't!
[12:17] <killown> i have esd
[12:18] <tony_> any ideas?
[12:18] <uberspaced> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/787/
[12:18] <Peebo> Maybe I don't want to, that's not the point
[12:18] <tony_> iwscan turns up nothing
[12:18] <mwe> rnalexander: good
[12:18] <mwe> rnalexander: chown -R root.root /boot and /bin and /cdrom
[12:18] <jazzrocker> blanky, ? i'm being quite logical, "diamondback linux" would be a good place to start... i'll continue being logical if you'll think for yourself a little
[12:18] <uberspaced> can somebody check out that apt error?
[12:18] <mwe> rnalexander: what's /build?
[12:18] <joxnil> this the right place for help on dual-screen issues?
[12:18] <blanky> jazzrocker: I've done that before...
[12:18] <jazzrocker> blanky, in fact i've already *done* that search because i've got a diamondback and i was rather saddened to find that i couldn't change the DPI on linux
[12:18] <killown> un_operateur, how I reset sound controler?
[12:18] <juano> blanky: try this ---> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-96291.html
[12:18] <jazzrocker> blanky, well then get more creative
[12:18] <joxnil> Ubuntu Edgy
[12:18] <blanky> thanks juano :)
[12:19] <mwe> rnalexander: you're almost done
[12:19] <jazzrocker> f8ckin hell blanky you're a retard... and juano you're a spoon feeder
[12:19] <juano> blanky: compare your xorg.conf with that one and check for diferences.. etc.
[12:19] <un_operateur> uberspaced, what distro you on, dapper or edgy?
[12:19] <blanky> thanks juano
[12:19] <blanky> Seveas: are you there
[12:19] <uberspaced> un_operateur: edgy
[12:19] <rnalexander> mwe, cdrom isn't changing, I think it's mapped to media/cdrom, shall I go to media/cdrom and chown that to root?
[12:19] <imbecile> can someone try to place a call with www.ip-relay.com and see if they can type in call box.. i can dial the number i just cannot type
[12:20] <mwe> rnalexander: chown root.root /cdrom
[12:20] <imbecile> i have the flash enabled i dont understand it
[12:20] <NickGarvey> the cool kids do chown root: /media/cdrom
[12:20] <mwe> rnalexander: that should change the link. it's not important for a link but ugly
[12:20] <killown> un_operateur, what I do?
[12:20] <killown> install alsa?
[12:20] <tony_> could someone please help me troubleshoot my orinoco drivers?
[12:20] <xenex> imbecile: its not flash, its java
[12:20] <NickGarvey> oh unless it is linked
[12:20] <NickGarvey> then..
[12:20] <NickGarvey> the cool kids do chown root: /cdrom
[12:20] <imbecile> xenex,  err i meant java sorry
[12:20] <xenex> imbecile: i suggest using AIM and IM them
[12:21] <xenex> imbecile: My IP Relay on AIM
[12:21] <Seveas> blanky, yes
[12:21] <rnalexander> mwe, weird, the cdrom is still listing as ryan.root
[12:21] <xenex> imbecile: much quicker that way
[12:21] <mwe> rnalexander: if you don't do it with -R it should work
[12:21] <juano> jazzrocker... loser nickname
[12:21] <imbecile> xenex,  ahhh thanks man good idea
[12:21] <joxnil> anyone? dual-screen issues?
[12:21] <Seveas> juano behave
[12:21] <blanky> what's up Seveas :)
[12:21] <joxnil> :)
[12:21] <blanky> Seveas: no, he was being a dick
[12:21] <Seveas> blanky, who?
[12:21] <imbecile> xenex,  im trying to make a rap song with a relay operator
[12:21] <blanky> jazzrocker, but he's gone, no need to worry
[12:21] <Seveas> ah ok
[12:22] <mwe> rnalexander: don't worry
[12:22] <uberspaced> ahh, crap.  did somebody direct a message to me?  i'm using irssi for the first time
[12:22] <xenex> imbecile: rofl gl
[12:22] <mwe> rnalexander: ownerships of symlinks have no effect
[12:22] <rnalexander> I mwe, I just did, but it's staying ryan.root  *shrug*
[12:22] <juano> Seveas: yep.. sorry for that.. he was acting NOT nice
[12:22] <uberspaced> how do i scroll up in irssi?
[12:22] <rnalexander> mwe, ok cool.  Thank you very very much!!!
[12:22] <Seveas> juano, I see (just read backlog)
[12:22] <blanky> don't worry about it juano, he's gone, it's over
[12:22] <mwe> rnalexander: don't worry. actually I don't think you can change it
[12:22] <imbecile> xenex,  thanks
[12:22] <mwe> rnalexander: only by removing the link and adding it back
[12:22] <juano> blanky: yep :-)
[12:22] <uberspaced> page up works.  go figure,.
[12:22] <killown> oh my god
[12:22] <killown> 
[12:23] <mwe> rnalexander: I think it should be fixed now (finger crossed)
[12:23] <NickGarvey> heh
[12:23] <joxnil> Tried most HOWTO's I could find, but still no luck getting dual-screen to work...
[12:23] <mwe> rnalexander: run the find command once more to confirm
[12:23] <uberspaced> un_operateur: any idea what could be wrong with apt?
[12:23] <uberspaced> do you want me to paste my sources.list?
[12:23] <rnalexander> mwe I just ran the find again, most of it's got.  I've got a few things in /dev and some things under /var but I think those were mine to begin with.
[12:24] <un_operateur> uberspaced, sure, do that please
[12:24] <uberspaced> will do.
[12:24] <rnalexander> mwe, the only files under dev showing up as mine are in /dev/.static/
[12:24] <un_operateur> killown, errm, you dont really need alsa to work audio -- maybe you could try getting xmms to choose it's default sound device -- CTRL+P  > audio-plugins ...
[12:24] <mwe> rnalexander: I'd change them to root.root
[12:25] <rnalexander> mwe will do, one sec
[12:25] <mwe> rnalexander: wait
[12:25] <killown> un_operateur, I resolve my problem with rexima
[12:25] <killown> alsamixer dont works
[12:25] <uberspaced> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/788/
[12:25] <uberspaced> sources.list
[12:25] <un_operateur> killown, so, does xmms work not?
[12:25] <killown> but mic without sound
[12:25] <un_operateur> now?
[12:25] <killown> un_operateur, now yes
[12:25] <rnalexander> mwe ??
[12:25] <Kryczek> hi guys!
[12:26] <killown> only mic dont work
[12:26] <Kryczek> since the new Firefox update, all Firefox menus have gone
[12:26] <rnalexander> mwe, sorry, I was too quick on the draw, they're changed now.
[12:26] <Kryczek> it just looks like an empty toolbar
[12:26] <rizenine> What does this "-- MARK --" mean? It's in my /var/log/messages.
[12:26] <Kryczek> and no key combination works (alt+F) etc
[12:26] <Kryczek> does anybody else have the same problem?
[12:26] <ghatak> right i am in my installation, one problem is, i cant become root, sudo passwd prompts for password, how do i become root? setup did not asked for a password
[12:26] <mwe> rnalexander: I think it's ok. I would have had you keep the groups in .dev if they were not screwd
[12:26] <christiane> Hello. What is the difference between xvid, xvid2, xvid3 and xvid4 in the Video Codec section of dvd::rip's gui?
[12:27] <rnalexander> mwe what does /dev do anyway?
[12:27] <mwe> rnalexander: if the system boots it's ok I think as udev takes over
[12:27] <uberspaced> and, to whom it may concern, i think ndiswrapper-utils is busted on edgy
[12:27] <joxnil> i think no-one sees me here, is this true?
[12:27] <rnalexander> mwe btw, why is there a 'bin' and an 'sbin'?
[12:27] <uberspaced> but anyhoo, one problem at a time.  apt first.
[12:27] <rizenine> uberspaced: why?
[12:27] <mwe> rnalexander: /dev are the file systems representation of your devices
[12:27] <uberspaced> rnalexander: user binaries and super user binaries
[12:27] <killown> un_operateur, I need to configure anything to get sound mic?
[12:27] <I-kido> joxnil
[12:27] <uberspaced> rizenine: the dependancy is kindof busted;
[12:27] <rnalexander> uberspaced  ah!  thanks.
[12:28] <uberspaced> 1.1 was installed when 1.8 should have been installed
[12:28] <mwe> rnalexander: sbin are for the sytem binaries
[12:28] <killown> rexima sound mic max
[12:28] <uberspaced> instsalling 1.8 worked, and it worked with modprobe
[12:28] <rizenine> rnalexander: dev is the linux devices folder.
[12:28] <uberspaced> 1.1 didnt.
[12:28] <mwe> rnalexander: usually stuff that only root have perms to use
[12:28] <joxnil> I-Kido, thanks, means I'm visible
[12:28] <rnalexander> mwe would you recommend I set a root password?
[12:28] <mwe> rnalexander: no
[12:28] <rizenine> uberspaced: no, just use ndiswrapper 1.8
[12:28] <uberspaced> just saw the stuff on a forum too
[12:28] <uberspaced> rizenine: yeah, i know that now
[12:28] <rizenine> uberspaced: it will install commons
[12:28] <mwe> rnalexander: I would recommend sudo -i if you need a root prompt
[12:28] <I-kido> lol joxnil, nah too crowded
[12:28] <rizenine> uberspaced: oh
[12:29] <joxnil> :-s
[12:29] <uberspaced> rizenine: now i just need apt to work so i can install stuff.
[12:29] <mwe> rnalexander: I think your system is fine now
[12:29] <rizenine> uberspaced: you also know to run ndiswrapper-1.8 right instead of just ndiswrapper
[12:29] <user_> Hello
[12:29] <un_operateur> uberspaced, if i were you, i'd have sources.list like this http://pastebin.ca/309752
[12:29] <rnalexander> mwe, I usually sudo, but it was weird when I hosed sudo ;-)
[12:29] <uberspaced> rizenine: yes, i know, i got that working.  now i have other crappy issues.
[12:29] <joxnil> I-Kido, is er nederlands help-irc kanaal voor xorg vragen?
[12:29] <rnalexander> mwe, ok I'll shutdown and restart, *fingers crossed*
[12:29] <mwe> rnalexander: yeah try avoiding that in the future ;)
[12:29] <rizenine> uberspaced: ok
[12:29] <uberspaced> un_operateur: thanks.  looking into it right now.
[12:29] <guigz> I have questions concerning swap
[12:29] <I-kido> joxnil #ubuntu-nl
[12:30] <insane_alien> does anyone know how i can limit the bandwidth of my computer?
[12:30] <un_operateur> killown, errm, I think that depends on the application using the mike
[12:30] <killown> un_operateur, without app dont work?
[12:30] <uberspaced> un_operateur: it just looks like a reasonable apt file but without comments and with multiverse on each line.
[12:30] <uberspaced> i'll try it ;)
[12:30] <rnalexander> mwe, so far so good, nice pretty splash screen and progress bar moving along.
[12:30] <lupine_85> !info python-dev feisty
[12:30] <ubotu> python-dev: Header files and a static library for Python (default). In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.4-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 0 kB, installed size 20 kB
[12:31] <guigz> I use Xubuntu with 1Go RAM...Do I really need swap?
[12:31] <ghatak> What is used to upgrade to most recent version of ubuntu ?
[12:31] <mwe> rnalexander: I'll have to go. I feel confident it will work now.
[12:31] <mwe> rnalexander: good night
[12:31] <rnalexander> Thanks again!
[12:31] <un_operateur> uberspaced, well, I dunno what it is with yours but I suspect a slight formatting error somewhere in it .. cant find out where tho
[12:31] <cameron_> Hello all
[12:32] <un_operateur> killown, some apps require alsa or oss or something else to support the mike .. but some don't .. it depends on the applications used
[12:32] <Lethargy_4> Yes you will want swap, what happens if you have save a large file, or .doc if you have no swap yo could max the memory and then the kernel would start shutting down process to make room.
[12:32] <killown> un_operateur sound works now , only mic dont
[12:32] <uberspaced> goddammit, firefox isnt pasting correctly from the text box of the paste
[12:33] <uberspaced> and it's pulling line numbers from the display above it.
[12:33] <kane77> h3xis, is MIMO what I want?
[12:33] <guigz> In fact I have my system on an usb key so I only have 2Gb space...
[12:33] <Lethargy_4> You might not use swap much, but when you do need it you will have it.
[12:33] <h3xis> kane77, no
[12:33] <guigz> My actual swap is 256Mo
[12:33] <Lethargy_4> that might be enough, most like a little more
[12:33] <un_operateur> killown, does alsamixer work?
[12:33] <cameron_> yeh i think about 150mb
[12:33] <guigz> Xubuntu seems not to need a lot of memory,so I was wondering shutting swap
[12:33] <kane77> h3xis, what is SMAr
[12:33] <b08y> hello, can some one help with beryl and nvidia 8776 ? i get http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/6560/ , what do i need to set in my xorg.conf to get that thing running
[12:33] <killown> un_operateur alsamixer works now
[12:34] <Lethargy_4> I would say 500 to 750 should be enough.
[12:34] <h3xis> kane77, no idea :P
[12:34] <un_operateur> killown, and it controls the volume and channels, etc alright, does it?
[12:34] <cameron_> can someone help me in moving my /home folder on another partion
[12:34] <killown> un_operateur yes
[12:34] <user_> hello
[12:34] <cameron_> can someone help me in moving my /home folder on another partion
[12:34] <kane77> h3xis, because I found one that has 3xSMAr antenas...
[12:34] <killown> but sound mic dont effect
[12:34] <guigz> In fact I only have 100Mb free on my main partition....So disabling swap would be interesting
[12:34] <blanky> cameron_: is the other partition mounted?
[12:34] <un_operateur> cameron_, I think you might need !cloning
[12:35] <Kryczek> FIREFOX IS UNUSABLE WITH THE NEW UPDATES
[12:35] <blanky> !cloning | cameron
[12:35] <ubotu> cameron: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type "dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages", move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type "sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade"
[12:35] <cameron_> no i have not made the other partition yet
[12:35] <cameron_> cloning??
[12:35] <uberspaced> un_operateur: appears to have worked.  it also appears that i'm retarted when it comes to pasting things into vi.
[12:35] <blanky> read above, cameron_
[12:35] <cameron_> hey blanky and i gotta do something sorry
[12:35] <un_operateur> cameron_, err no, you dont want !cloning on second thoughts :)
[12:35] <Kryczek> hello?
[12:35] <h3xis> kane77, the base firmware wouldnt allow what you want to do with it
[12:35] <Kryczek> major Ubuntu problem
[12:35] <blanky> un_operateur: yeah haha I was like, 'wth'
[12:35] <Kryczek> does anybody care?
[12:35] <riotkittie> uh
[12:35] <riotkittie> brb
[12:36] <un_operateur> blanky, I forget which !command is which sometimes :)
[12:36] <un_operateur> uberspaced, thats good .. practise your vi
[12:36] <blanky> haha
[12:36] <noobie0057> Kryczek: I care, but I don't matter
[12:36] <blanky> brb
[12:37] <b08y> hello, can some one help with beryl and nvidia 8776 ? i get http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/6560/ , what do i need to set in my xorg.conf to get that thing running
[12:37] <un_operateur> killown, errm, I can't think of anything that might help you excep -- verify that the mike is plugged in right, it's not muted in the alsa/gnome mixers and not muted in the application using it
[12:37] <riotkittie> whee.
[12:37] <Lethargy_4> guigz that would interesting I hope this is not critical part of your network.
[12:38] <killown> certo!
[12:38] <New2Ubunt2> openoffice.org is not working
[12:38] <un_operateur> uberspaced, the reason i use a sources.list like that is because it's just neater and consistent .. instead of a mess all over the place
[12:38] <noobie0057> Kryczek: what's the problem?
[12:38] <New2Ubunt2> when I click spell check with overtly misspelled words it does not find them as misspelled
[12:38] <un_operateur> uberspaced, the latter is prone to errors
[12:38] <Kryczek> noobie0057: there is no menu anymore :)
[12:39] <New2Ubunt2> how do I fix spell check in OpenOffice.org?
[12:39] <Kryczek> noobie0057: have a look for yourself: http://kryczek.gemnetworks.com/public/firef0xed.png
[12:39] <un_operateur> New2Ubunt2, F7 maybe ?
[12:39] <noobie0057> Kryczek: Ah,, firefox,, is this 2.0?
[12:39] <Lethargy_4> that is normal for spell checkers,
[12:39] <New2Ubunt2> F7 runs the spell checker but hte problem is it doesn't find any misspelled words
[12:40] <Lethargy_4> try it in say word, I bet you will have the same problem.
[12:40] <un_operateur> New2Ubunt2, or set the language/dictionary (dunno how to do it, i dont use OO.org)
[12:40] <Kryczek> noobie0057: nope, 1.5.0.9
[12:40] <uberspaced> un_operateur: ok, i take back the entire "appears to be working thing"; similar error message this time:
[12:40] <uberspaced> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/790/
[12:40] <New2Ubunt2> what do you use Un_Operator?
[12:40] <noobie0057> Kryczek: did you just update and then got this problem?
[12:40] <Kryczek> noobie0057: yes
[12:40] <un_operateur> New2Ubunt2, well, I use google's docs&spreadsheets
[12:40] <uberspaced> un_operateur: as far as comments are concerned, i agree.  there are some people who just clutter things with stupid stuff.
[12:40] <New2Ubunt2> ahhh
[12:41] <noobie0057> Kryczek: did you try rebooting? There is a safemode for firefox.. you might try that (from the command line)
[12:41] <jewbilee> Would you guys mind critiquing my Ubuntu wallpaper i made today in The Gimp for me?
[12:41] <Kryczek> noobie0057: the update was the other day, so I did reboot today
[12:41] <Kryczek> noobie0057: I did try -safe-mode
[12:41] <noobie0057> jewbilee: did you post it online somewhere?
[12:42] <ghatak> Update is running, it has downloaded a kernel too, Would it replace the existing kernel or not ? relink grub automatically to new one ? i remember doing same thing in debian and it did not relinked the new kernel and i was without a bootable system...
[12:42] <Kryczek> I also rm'd ~/.mozilla
[12:42] <Kryczek> nothing helps
[12:42] <jewbilee> noobie0057: yea i did
[12:42] <Kryczek> it's really an update problem
[12:42] <noobie0057> Kryczek: the word "hosed" comes to mind..
[12:42] <mnoir> Kryczek: do toher gui things have the top menu?
[12:42] <uberspaced> eval:
[12:42] <uberspaced> whoops.
[12:42] <bimberi> ghatak: it won't replace the existing kernel but will add new lines to the grub config and boot to the new kernel by default
[12:42] <mnoir> other*
[12:43] <noobie0057> Kryczek: I really am new to linux, so just and idea, perhaps you could reinstall?
[12:43] <ghatak> bimberi: that will do
[12:43] <Kryczek> noobie0057: reinstall Linux?
[12:43] <noobie0057> jewbilee: lets have the url
[12:43] <jewbilee> noobie: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=51273
[12:43] <noobie0057> Kryczek: no just firefox
[12:43] <Kryczek> noobie0057: it would install the exact same files...
[12:44] <xenex> http://www.uploadftw.com/0107/DSC08727.JPG
[12:44] <xenex> how do i fix that?
[12:44] <un_operateur> uberspaced, hmm, I seem to think there's a problem with content being retrieved properly -- try another mirror -- replace us.archives.ubuntu.com with something like uk.archives.ubuntu.com
[12:44] <mnoir> Kryczek: many ppl have updated without reporting such a problem
[12:44] <uberspaced> un_operateur: ok; will do.
[12:45] <mnoir> Kryczek: a purge and reinstall would take like 3 min
[12:45] <Kryczek> k, i'll do
[12:45] <Bryan`> i went through the package manager like the help file said and installed nvidia-glx and its deps...however it tells me....
[12:45] <Bryan`> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[12:45] <Bryan`> Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[12:45] <Bryan`> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[12:46] <kane77> !paste | Bryan`
[12:46] <ubotu> Bryan`: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[12:46] <uberspaced> un_operateur: yay, UK.
[12:46] <noobie0057> jewliee, I like it. I like the font. My criticism would be to try less loud colors
[12:46] <un_operateur> !nvidia | Bryan`
[12:46] <ubotu> Bryan`: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:46] <Bryan`> yea, didnt think it would paste that on seperate lines
[12:46] <uberspaced> un_operateur: it done worked good.
[12:47] <un_operateur> uberspaced, sounds like a problem between you and the us mirror then -- give it a try in a couple of days, perhaps it'll resolve itself then :)
[12:47] <uberspaced> un_operateur: and for some reason, it worked faster than the us mirrors;
[12:47] <un_operateur> uberspaced, well, do you know what time it is in the US now? :)
[12:47] <jewbilee> noobie: i think i know what you mean, you should have seen how bright it was before the circular black gradient with a slight opacity lower
[12:47] <un_operateur> uberspaced, time there is _update_ time :)
[12:48] <uberspaced> un_operateur: huh?
[12:48] <^Aftermath^> You people are evil: "Happy New Year to all Ubuntu users." What about other people?
[12:48] <uberspaced> got the "time in us part" not "time there is update time"
[12:48] <^Aftermath^> They deserve a Happy New Year too.
[12:48] <uberspaced> you suggesting a buttload of americans are all like "lets run sudo apt-get update" right now?
[12:48] <noobie0057> jewbilee, you could try green and blue, the other thing that might be nice is to fade the line between the curve
[12:48] <jewbilee> ^Aftermath^: nope, you're wrong... they dont
[12:48] <uberspaced> interesting hypothesis.
[12:48] <uberspaced> brb
[12:48] <un_operateur> uberspaced, well i meant, a lot of the ubuntu users in the US will have logged on now and be doing updates and what not on the us mirrors
[12:48] <^Aftermath^> Yes, they do.
[12:48] <^Aftermath^> You don't if you think they don't.
[12:49] <^Aftermath^> bubai.
[12:49] <noobie0057> New Year is on April the 1st
[12:49] <Med_Stud> awww, I think someone hurt ^Aftermath^'s feelings
[12:49] <uberspaced> ah.  xchat. much better.
[12:49] <uberspaced> ok.  now on to my second problem.
[12:50] <un_operateur> uberspaced, lol
[12:50] <SySh> hi
[12:50] <uberspaced> i have ndiswrapper installed, and the drivers for my card are installed, and modprobe ndiswrapper worked
[12:50] <noobie0057> does anyone know about tsclient?  I'd like to know if I can establish a VPN connection and remote desktop to a Windows XP machine
[12:50] <uberspaced> but now my crapity wont start the card.
[12:50] <LameBMX> uberspaced, they can all be solved by turning amish
[12:50] <uberspaced> is there an "all knowing" ubuntu edgy wireless howto?
[12:50] <LameBMX> !wifi
[12:50] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:50] <un_operateur> noobie0057, tsclient only does remote desktop no VPNs
[12:50] <uberspaced> LameBMX, i almost said something really tastelss to that.
[12:51] <LameBMX> dont know past that
[12:51] <ghatak> !udate
[12:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about udate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:51] <ghatak> !update
[12:51] <LameBMX> lol uberspaced sorry im in a bit sarcastic of a mood ...
[12:51] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:51] <SySh> There are much difference between ubunto 6.06 to 6.10? Do you recomend an upgrade?
[12:51] <uberspaced> LameBMX, apparently, you didnt get it ;)
[12:52] <noobie0057> un_operateur: is VPN a windows only thing.. I'll google it..
[12:52] <LameBMX> lol
[12:52] <un_operateur> SySh, are you happy with your current setup? if so, stick with it  .. if you feel brave and want to experiment, then upgrade :)
[12:52] <LameBMX> noobie0057, no its not a windows only thing
[12:53] <LameBMX> noobie0057, how to do it under linux i dont know though :/ ... wanna config up a real router hit me up
[12:53] <gottatrieit> Hi. Anyone on that can help me with an update problem?
[12:53] <SySh> un_operateur : Hum... I'm real fine with my 6.06... but I think... is there anything I don't have on that new version?
[12:53] <un_operateur> noobie0057, no VPNs are a internet-standard -- but tsclient doesnt establish VPN connections with remote computers, it's job is similar to the mstsc.exe on windows -- purely to provide a RDP client
[12:54] <noobie0057> LameBMX: thanks,,
[12:54] <mnoir> gottatrieit: not unless you ask an actual question...
[12:54] <un_operateur> SySh, well, edgy brings in newer versions of software -- so you'll find that some packages will have enhanced, so that way you might gain a bit
[12:54] <noobie0057> un_operateur: if I had a vpn established then tsclient could work though that connection? The reason is my work only allows remote desktop connections in this way
[12:55] <SySh> un_operateur : thanks
[12:55] <gottatrieit> I've tried downloading the updates and upgrade for 6.06 from 5.10 and the download speed is extremely slow. Is there a problem with the mirror sites?
[12:55] <un_operateur> noobie0057, yes, as long as there is connectivity between the two computers in the VPN tunnel .. sure
[12:55] <phroggy> hey all, I've got an old Dell laptop that I just installed Ubuntu 6 on, and the display is wonky.  xorg.conf says it should be running at 1400x1050, which is probably correct for this LCD, but it's actually running at something lower, maybe 800x600, which is not displaying correctly.
[12:55] <IntuitiveNipple> Edgy and manual GRUB setup is failing with error 6 - any GRUB experts about?
[12:55] <phroggy> text mode (with framebuffer) is similarly (but not identically) broken.
[12:55] <phroggy> (perhaps that's a different resolution, which is why it's not the same)
[12:55] <mnoir> gottatrieit: shouldn't be - are you using one geographically close to you?
[12:56] <gottatrieit> I really don't know. It starts automatically and hasn't given me the choice of sites.
[12:57] <gottatrieit> mnoir: How can I tell if my ehto card is shot?
[12:57] <gottatrieit> ethernet card, sorry.
[12:57] <mnoir> gottatrieit: dunno - it is at least working somewhat and they do not usually fail slowly
[12:58] <gottatrieit> mnoir: Dumb question as I am online, right? Sorry.
[12:58] <phroggy> how can I find out what resolution it's actually currently running at?
[12:58] <LameBMX> gottatrieit, id agree with mnoir if they arent working they generally dont work at all ... have you tried to say tracert google.com
[12:58] <phroggy> and, if that's something other than what I see in xorg.conf, why would that be?
[12:59] <LameBMX> phroggy, you monitor should have a settings button in in there is normally info or it just shows the resolution
[12:59] <phroggy> this is a laptop, there is no OSD
[12:59] <gottatrieit> I'm just frustrated that I can't download the updates.  I had to delete my operating system and reinstall it. Now I'm having problems.
[01:00] <phroggy> I remember there being a program I can run that will report a bunch of info about what X is doing.
[01:00] <mnoir> gottatrieit: where in the world are you?
[01:00] <phroggy> but I don't remember what it was called.
[01:00] <gottatrieit> LameBMX: Yes. I did a test run at speedtest.net for RoadRunner tech service yesterday.
[01:00] <gottatrieit> Florida, USA
[01:01] <ShadowRider007> i got a Ubuntu n00b question. I installed Ubuntu from live CD, everything works GREAT! Except, if the OS is idle it drop network-connection until I open firefox or something. However, I can't ping it from another computer until I do something internet related on the Ubuntu computer. Is there away to keep alive the connection or something?
[01:01] <un_operateur> phroggy, doing things like what?
[01:01] <mnoir> in terminal, traceroute google.com    should give you like sub-100ms response time
[01:01] <phroggy> un_operateur: all I'm looking for is the screen resolution.
[01:02] <gottatrieit> mnoir: Anything over -100ms is not too good? Room for improvement?
[01:02] <minerale> I'm looking for a torrent client, the current one is old and it runs python scripts, I was looking for a compiled one that I can set 'limits' on and still run it under gnu screen
[01:02] <mnoir> gottatrieit: i am trying to eliminate other network slowness as an issue
[01:02] <un_operateur> phroggy, errm, i think gnome-display-properties can list that for you -- if not the xorg.conf surely does
[01:02] <LameBMX> oh nice .. dont know offhand phroggy
[01:02] <mnoir> gottatrieit: so just comparing - but what is your connection?   dsl, cable, etc?
[01:03] <mnoir> gottatrieit: first numbers, then opinion :)\
[01:03] <phroggy> un_operateur: here's the problem:  it's not running at the resolution specified in xorg.conf
[01:03] <gottatrieit> Ok. I'm not knowledgeable in networking and speed stuff, thanks for the help, mnoir.
[01:03] <LameBMX> gottatrieit, tracepath will fish that stuff out for you ... sorry im still a nix n00b .. tracert was windows
[01:04] <gottatrieit> mnoir: cable. supposed to be 10mbs and 300kbs download.
[01:04] <gottatrieit> OK
[01:04] <andre> hello everyone
[01:04] <un_operateur> phroggy, do you run gnome?
[01:04] <andre> my first time here
[01:04] <andre> though you guys probably get that a lot ;)
[01:05] <Bryan`> hmmm, ive done everything in the how-to for installing nvidia drivers...they are all installed in package manager...and it still wont load the kernel driver
[01:05] <gottatrieit> I'll get figures in a sec, I'll open another screen and go into terminal. brb
[01:05] <phroggy> ok, I was right...
[01:05] <andre> Bryan:  I also tried installing the NVIDIA drivers... they are a pain in the arse
[01:05] <Bryan`> anyone have any ideas?
[01:05] <phroggy> gnome-display-properties says 640x480, and there are no other options in the menu.  How can I fix that?  xorg.conf lists only the correct resolution.
[01:06] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> !kernel
[01:06] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[01:06] <mnoir> gottatrieit: open another screen??
[01:07] <Crankymonky> !pastebin | Crankymonky
[01:07] <ubotu> Crankymonky: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:07] <un_operateur> phroggy, well, firstly i'd ask if you were using a more exotic graphics card? one that would use non-free/restricted drivers?
[01:08] <phroggy> un_operateur: the Ubuntu 5 Live CD worked fine.  Also, the correct resolution *is* listed in xorg.conf, so it's getting probed correctly somewhere.
[01:08] <ubuntux> !kernel
[01:08] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[01:08] <LameBMX> un_operateur, he is using a lappy
[01:08] <ubuntux> !patch
[01:08] <ubotu> patch: Apply a diff file to an original. In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.9-4 (edgy), package size 93 kB, installed size 188 kB
[01:08] <phroggy> and yeah, it's a crappy old Dell laptop.
[01:08] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> Can anyone point my to a tutorial on modifying the existing ubuntu kernel?
[01:08] <ubuntux> !aiglx
[01:08] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[01:08] <gottatrieit> Yeah. Desktop. lol Sorry.
[01:08] <jrib> !kernel | asdfjkahsdfjkha
[01:08] <ubotu> asdfjkahsdfjkha: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[01:08] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> jrib, that is not a tutorial
[01:08] <mnoir> gottatrieit: do yourself a favor - click applications -> accesories and drag terminal to yer bar so you just need to click it for another terminal
[01:08] <un_operateur> phroggy, errm, you could try running the xorgconfig again
[01:09] <RAV_TUX> nalioth: need staff help
[01:09] <Godsey> bimberi: git finally worked.
[01:09] <gottatrieit> Couldn't get traceroute to work, so I did a ping to speedtest.net and everything came back at less than 40ms.
[01:09] <nalioth> RAV_TUX: with what?
[01:09] <jrib> asdfjkahsdfjkha: yes it is
[01:09] <mnoir> ok - so net is fast for you
[01:09] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> jrib, would you care to show me?
[01:09] <RAV_TUX> nalioth: sign in with Nick problems
[01:10] <nalioth> RAV_TUX: /msg me please
[01:10] <mnoir> gottatrieit: in a terminal, go to /etc/apt and look in the file sources.list
[01:10] <jrib> asdfjkahsdfjkha: I don't know what else I can do other than give you the URL
[01:10] <bimberi> Godsey: cool :)
[01:10] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> jrib, have you gone to the url? Have you tried to find the page that is a tutorial?
[01:10] <un_operateur> phroggy, hmm, the command doesn't seem to exist on my system -- perhaps -- sudo dpkg --priority low xorg xorg-server
[01:10] <jrib> asdfjkahsdfjkha: yes...
[01:11] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> jrib, will you tell me how to find it?
[01:11] <jrib> asdfjkahsdfjkha: type these letters into your web browser https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild and press enter?
[01:11] <mnoir> tell me the net address of the line that sez edgy updates on it
[01:11] <un_operateur> phroggy, errm, make that dpkg-reconfigure -- sorry
[01:11] <pl0id> hello all, i'm wondering if someone can help.  How do I go about completely removing all traces of apache2?  I attempted sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2 however apache is still running even after a reboot of the system
[01:11] <mnoir> gottatrieit: it is about the 4th line with text on it
[01:12] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> jrib, wow... where is the link to that on that page you sent me?
[01:12] <Wimpog> How to configure Linux PC running Ubuntu as an Ethernet bridge?
[01:12] <phroggy> un_operateur: if xorgconfig does what I think (generates xorg.conf), that won't help, because xorg.conf is correct, and is being overridden somehow.
[01:12] <jrib> !kernel | asdfjkahsdfjkha
[01:12] <ubotu> asdfjkahsdfjkha: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[01:12] <jrib> ^
[01:12] <scoob> what is the recommended web browser for new ubuntu users?
[01:12] <magic_ninja> firefox
[01:12] <NevroPus> anyone knows of a good wma ---> mp3 converter
[01:12] <NevroPus> ?
[01:12] <phroggy> so, how does gnome-display-properties get a list of available resolutions?
[01:12] <MKR> better content providers
[01:12] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> jrib, oh I was going to the first link... thanks :P sry for the inconvience
[01:12] <phroggy> NevroPus: are they DRM encrypted, or not?
[01:12] <mnoir> phroggy: from yer /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:13] <gottatrieit> mnoir: got the file open, fourth line w/text #?
[01:13] <Wimpog> How to configure Ubuntu PC as an Ethernet bridge?
[01:13] <jrib> asdfjkahsdfjkha: oh, np
[01:13] <mnoir> gottatrieit: what is the http: etc address?
[01:13] <un_operateur> phroggy, errm, it might be regenerated tho (i'm not too sure) .. but xorgconfig doesnt seem to exist on debian/ubuntu -- so i'd use dpkg-reconfigure on xorg and xorg-server
[01:13] <phroggy> mnoir: that's obviously not correct.  /etc/X11/xorg.conf says 1400x1050, gnome-display-properties says 640x480.
[01:13] <checkmate> NevroPus: ffmeg, mencoder
[01:13] <NevroPus> not encrypted phroggy
[01:13] <checkmate> try those two
[01:13] <MKR> Lame probably does wma->mp3
[01:13] <scoob> ninja, i am using firefox but it loads web pages as if i'm on some 3rd world dial up.  However, i can download files at over 850 kb/s
[01:13] <Peebo> Wimpog, As a straight bridge it's easy
[01:14] <checkmate> ffmpeg and mencoder do most for me, but i don't normally use .wma... i think as long as the codecs are found it'll work
[01:14] <un_operateur> phroggy, what graphics card do you use?
[01:14] <phroggy> NevroPus: if you have Windows, iTunes will do it automatically (it defaults to AAC but you can set it to MP3 instead).  Not the answer you wanted in a #ubuntu channel, I suppose... ;-)
[01:14] <Peebo> Wimpog, fit two network cards and turn on ip_forwarding
[01:14] <gottatrieit> mnoir: this one? : http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[01:14] <phroggy> un_operateur: whatever's in this Dell laptop, it's something by ATi, I forget exactly.
[01:14] <Wimpog> That's not bridging, that is ip forwarding!!!
[01:14] <Wimpog> that is routing
[01:14] <un_operateur> phroggy, lspci should list it
[01:14] <Wimpog> I need to enable BRIDGING
[01:14] <mnoir> gottatrieit: yes - and that is correct for you
[01:14] <mnoir> gottatrieit: in us
[01:15] <Peebo> Wimpog, No that's bridging, plain flat bridging, joining to networks
[01:15] <mnoir> gottatrieit: i dunno why it is slow for you
[01:15] <un_operateur> phroggy, and if it's ATI.. then did you install and configure the ATI kernel modules?
[01:15] <NevroPus> hehe, I have win on another partition, but not iTunes, hate that prog:P but ofcorse, can use it on that though
[01:15] <mnoir> gottatrieit: how much are you trying to d/l?
[01:15] <NevroPus> and you'r right, not the answer I wanted in #ubuntu :P
[01:15] <mnoir> gottatrieit: uuh, update?
[01:15] <gottatrieit> mnoir: Ok. I usually get much better speed, but it chokes down quite a bit.
[01:16] <Peebo> Wimpog, If you want to do more you will need to learn the route command and possibly iptables
[01:16] <ghatak> !version
[01:16] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[01:16] <mnoir> gottatrieit: doubt it is you :)
[01:16] <mnoir> gottatrieit: with a problem i mean :)
[01:16] <gottatrieit> mnoir: somewhere abround 150 mbs? Too much at once?
[01:17] <mnoir> gottatrieit: no
[01:17] <ghatak> !update
[01:17] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:17] <LumaQQ> Anyone know how to change your system font (im using a chinese system)  ~~????
[01:17] <un_operateur> Wimpog, IIRC there is a bridging howto on tldp
[01:17] <pl0id> how do you completely remove all traces of apache?
[01:17] <Wimpog> WHERE?
[01:18] <Wimpog> I'm new to this chat...
[01:18] <un_operateur> Wimpog, do you use google at all?  :) .. anyway , here's something -- http://linux-net.osdl.org/index.php/Bridge
[01:18] <gottatrieit> mnoir: I got the udate note and I was actually trying to get Dapper back on my machine.
[01:19] <mnoir> gottatrieit: update from what to 6.06??
[01:19] <Wimpog> I used gbrctl to create bridge on CentOS, but I don't know how to do that on Ubuntu Server!!!@
[01:19] <gottatrieit> 5.10
[01:19] <uberspaced> dang, i've hoste usb now.
[01:19] <khermans_> i have sun java plugin installed in Edgy, but Firefox fails to recognize it
[01:19] <uberspaced> that sucks.
[01:19] <mnoir> gottatrieit: that is pretty much a completely new set - that takes some time
[01:20] <khermans_> i have installed this through the sun java package in apt
[01:20] <bimberi> pl0id: 'sudo apt-get remove --purge apache' will take out most of it.  There may still be traces in places like /etc/apache or /var/log
[01:20] <gottatrieit> I have the disk for 5.10 and upgraded about 2 months ago. I shut down my machine Wednesday to put together a new machine for a friend.
[01:20] <mnoir> gottatrieit: it is worth it to d/l and burn a 6.06 install iso
[01:20] <gottatrieit> mnoir: yup, but I didn't have as much trouble the first time. lol
[01:20] <Wimpog> Ok, I see now. brctl is the tool for manipulating bridging...
[01:20] <mnoir> gottatrieit: :)
[01:21] <pl0id> bimberi, thanks.  yes i've done the remove --purge but after doing so should I just rm -rv the rest?
[01:21] <pl0id> is there a better way?
[01:21] <un_operateur> Wimpog, here's something you'd definitely like to bookmark too - http://tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/
[01:21] <un_operateur> Wimpog, there's two good howtos there on bridging too
[01:22] <gottatrieit> mnoir: The rest of this story is, and feel free to pass it along :s :D, is I forgot my password, didn't have it written down, sooooooooo, re install and re work the machine. Yippeee!
[01:22] <Wimpog> Thanks guys!!!
[01:22] <pl0id> also, after i did the purge --remove apache is still running even after the system was rebooted
[01:22] <gottatrieit> So, back to the drawing board as they say.
[01:22] <mnoir> gottatrieit: the problem is that so much is different, expecially the way Cannonical is managing ubuntu and the dynamic nature of debian and linux in general.   many folks (me included) don't upgrade - we keep our home stuff separate and install a new release and point to the home
[01:23] <mnoir> gottatrieit: and call that an upgrade :)
[01:23] <un_operateur> !password
[01:23] <ubotu> Forgot your password? Boot into recovery mode. What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords
[01:23] <kp1723> hiya
[01:24] <un_operateur> . o 0 ( just who writes these little instructions?)
[01:24] <gottatrieit> I don't understand that, mnoir. what do mean about home and pointing home?
[01:24] <phroggy> un_operateur: (sorry was afk) no, I haven't installed any drivers or kernel modules or anything; this is a completely clean installation just off the CD.  I haven't had an opportunity to install anything yet.
[01:25] <phroggy> I actually did a text-based install from the alternate CD, because that's what I happen to have handy at the moment, so I'm not sure how the regular graphical install would have looked.
[01:25] <mnoir> gottatrieit: many ppl make a separate filesystem for home that gets mounted, therefore whenyou make a new os, you can just use yer old home directory
[01:25] <un_operateur> phroggy, well the deal is nvidia and ATI kernel modules are not included on ubuntu/debian because of policy .. so you need to install and configure them seperately by yourself after install
[01:25] <Wimpog> Guys, one more question... My server has two HDDs. I think, I made a mistake while installing Ubuntu-server - I only formated one of the two HDDs. And now, for some reason, the other HDD is not even accessable... I think I need to reformat it, but how the heck do I acccess it???
[01:26] <un_operateur> Wimpog, have you tried mounting it?
[01:26] <Wimpog> I can't even see it anymore
[01:26] <Wimpog> I only see hda1
[01:26] <kp1723> Wimpog, fsisk -l lists you HHDs
[01:26] <un_operateur> Wimpog, errm, sudo fdisk -l   ought to list it if the BIOS detected it
[01:26] <kp1723> fdisk* even
[01:26] <Wimpog> ok, I'll try that thnks
[01:27] <un_operateur> !ati | phroggy
[01:27] <ubotu> phroggy: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:27] <gottatrieit> mnoir: Hmmmm. I will have to let that sink in a little. I'm not sure I understand it completely, but I get the basic idea. I need to become more "computer literate" to be able to do that.
[01:28] <phroggy> it won't be easy to do that when I can't actually see most of the screen.
[01:28] <kp1723> Can anyone help me troubleshoot an server problems?  It locks my system every time I exit X.
[01:28] <phroggy> another thing:  the Ubuntu 5 Live CD worked perfectly.  Didn't have this problem.
[01:28] <Thug-N-Me> how do i move on xchat the channel panel down on the bottom ?
[01:28] <phroggy> so I'm thinking if I install Ubuntu 5, it'll work.
[01:28] <phroggy> something changed in 6 that caused this bug.
[01:29] <phroggy> either that, or something happens differently between a live CD and an install that's different about the way it detects video.
[01:29] <mnoir> gottatrieit: it will take a while, it is sort of like using only your d drive for your things and only system things on your c drive
[01:29] <phroggy> in which case if I had an Ubuntu 6 live CD it should work correctly.
[01:29] <Wimpog> Guys, it did list the other HDD. Do you know how to format it???
[01:29] <gottatrieit> Well, I don't like to take up time on this channel to ask a lot of learning questions; i.e. howtos and chat. thanks again, mnoir.
[01:29] <pianoboy3333> When I try and print to a printer connected to an XP computer, in the printer's preferences, I get this error: Printing: No %%BoundingBox: comment in header! What does that mean?
[01:29] <mnoir> gottatrieit: this means you can trash your c drive and replace it and still have all your own things
[01:29] <mnoir> gottatrieit: np :)
[01:30] <un_operateur> phroggy, if you have an ATI card, it needs special attention -- with any ubuntu release
[01:30] <kp1723> Wimpog, first you have to add it to /etc/fstab and mount it
[01:30] <gottatrieit> ty
[01:30] <w3ccv> Wimpog, use fdisk to set up the partitions, then mkfd to "format" then you can mount
[01:30] <Wimpog> ok, then what???
[01:30] <un_operateur> kp1723, you dont need to edit the fstab to mount a volume -- just use !mount
[01:30] <phroggy> un_operateur: what about on a Live CD?
[01:30] <kp1723> but if you reboot...
[01:30] <sakura> Hi there! I'm having some trouble with VLC streaming. I checked with wireshark and found the stream works fine and makes to the other machine, but the client on the other end can't play it.
[01:30] <Wimpog> Ok, I'll try that
[01:31] <Thug-N-Me> what would be better sand saver to install Automatix2 or EasyUbuntu ?
[01:31] <jsilva> hi all
[01:31] <concept10> What is the url to Seveas' repo?
[01:31] <kp1723> hiya
[01:31] <un_operateur> !seveas
[01:31] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:31] <phroggy> un_operateur: I'm not talking about getting 3D acceleration to work correctly or optimal performance or anything, I'm only talking about the screen resolution not matching xorg.conf
[01:32] <jsilva> I need help, where I can find a mplayer that can play flv and 3gp videos?
[01:32] <Thug-N-Me> !Automatix2
[01:32] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:32] <un_operateur> phroggy, afaik .. gnome goes it's own way in determining the correct resolution to use (not sure about specifics) .. in either case, why not just follow the !ati howto? it's a 3 minute job actually
[01:32] <Thug-N-Me> !EasyUbuntu
[01:32] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[01:33] <phroggy> un_operateur: because I can't see the screen, so it would be awkward to do anything.
[01:33] <Wimpog> How's Ubuntu Server compared to Windows Server 2003??? I'd like to try both, but maybe some of you have tried and know something more....
[01:33] <bds> phroggy: can you use lynx?
[01:33] <eitan> I have a repeat error while trying to install Ubuntu 7.10 Fiesty Herd 1 Desktop from a live CD.  The error occurs after the "Ubuntu" start up screen (with the orange bar on the bottom) is complete.  The error is as follows: "Busyboy v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-3ubuntu2) Built in shell (ash).  bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" And I am kicked to some terminal as (initramfs).  Should I file this in bug reports?
[01:33] <un_operateur> phroggy, errm, most installing here happens via the command line anyway -- which you can get to via CTRL+ALT+F1
[01:33] <concept10> un_operateur, thanks.  I wasnt aware that Seveas' repo had mirrors.. I thought someone was using his name and making another repo
[01:33] <lupine_85> eitan: #ubuntu+1
[01:33] <eitan> thanks
[01:34] <Tox> hi how to disable ICMP Echo request
[01:34] <un_operateur> eitan, did you get an error before being sent to the busybox prompt?
[01:34] <Thug-N-Me> my terminal does not start any idea why ?
[01:34] <juano> !seveas
[01:34] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:34] <un_operateur> Tox, !iptables should help you
[01:34] <Tox> !iptables
[01:34] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[01:34] <pl0id> how do I completely remove all traces of apache2?
[01:35] <eitan> un_operateur, before, and it tries to repair something (i don't remember the exact output, I can repeat the error and save it and come back), and then i'm kicked to that shell
[01:35] <Thug-N-Me> my terminal does not start any idea why ?
[01:35] <Flannel> pl0id: the --purge flag (or complete removal in Synaptic), make sure you get all the packages, not just the metapackages
[01:35] <un_operateur> pl0id, errm -- sudo aptitude purge `aptitude search apache | grep -i ^i | cut -c 4-30`
[01:35] <jpjacobs> !repeat |Thug-N-Me
[01:35] <ubotu> Thug-N-Me: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:35] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> Hey guys, I am tring to use 'make menuconfig' but when I do it it says I do not have the Ncurses libraries. I tried 'sudo apt-get install ncurses-devel' but it told me coulden't find package... How would I go about installing these libraries?
[01:35] <Tox> is there any easier way to disable icmp req ?
[01:35] <ec> hi i have drapper drake...how do i install firefox 2.0
[01:36] <Thug-N-Me> jpjacobs thanks :)
[01:36] <Flannel> !firefox | ec
[01:36] <ubotu> ec: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[01:36] <Thug-N-Me> jpjacobs my terminal still dons`t start ;)
[01:36] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> !ncurses-devel
[01:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ncurses-devel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:36] <pl0id> Flannel: thanks
[01:36] <un_operateur> Tox, install !iptables and !firestarter -- firestarter would help you configure the iptables via a GUI
[01:36] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> !ncurses libraries
[01:36] <vitriol> anybody else getting extremely slow speeds from ubuntu repositories?
[01:36] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> !ncurses
[01:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ncurses - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:36] <pl0id> un_operateur: thanks
[01:36] <vitriol> i'm getting about 4000B/s
[01:36] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> !menuconfig
[01:36] <Thug-N-Me> !terminal
[01:36] <Flannel> !info libncurses4-dev
[01:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about menuconfig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:36] <un_operateur> asdfjkahsdfjkha, search packages.ubuntu.com
[01:36] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[01:36] <ubotu> Package libncurses4-dev does not exist in any distro I know
[01:36] <ec> ubotu: thanks
[01:36] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[01:37] <no-sleep> hi all
[01:37] <Flannel> asdfjkahsdfjkha: libncurses5-dev is the package, I believe.
[01:37] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> flannel thank you ill try that
[01:37] <vitriol> is it because there are too many people using the repos or what?
[01:37] <guigz> can someone explain me how I can create an initrd and how boot work?
[01:37] <vitriol> this is really frustrating
[01:37] <alex_> i am trying to format my usb hard disk to ext3, but i cant seem to get it working with gparted
[01:37] <bds> un_operateur: I thought aptitude only deinstalled dependentcies for packages that were installed with aptitude?
[01:37] <Tox> !firestarter
[01:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[01:37] <un_operateur> vitriol, probably because you are using a busy mirror -- try using another one
[01:37] <Quinn> anyone know how to properly setup color management using an ICC profile?
[01:37] <Thug-N-Me> no one can help me getting my terminal to work ?
[01:38] <vitriol> un_operateur: good point i'll try changing that out
[01:38] <kp1723> Thug, don't feel bad, no one knows why my X crashes.
[01:38] <un_operateur> bds, errm, I thought that too .. but i've recently notice aptitude deinstall unused packages installed via apt-get and synaptic too
[01:38] <eXistenZ> any good sensors client for gnome?
[01:38] <Thug-N-Me> kp1723 :)
[01:38] <Flannel> un_operateur: apt-get does too, as of newer versions
[01:38] <sakura> Quinn: lprof?
[01:39] <bds> un_operateur: ah, nice to know :)
[01:39] <Thug-N-Me> kp1723 really weird man it did work few min ago
[01:39] <Quinn> yeah I heard of that but I couldn't get it to do jack
[01:39] <Flannel> Thug-N-Me: you'll need more details than "doesn't work".  Which terminal? gnome-terminal? or ttys? when did they stop working? do you get error messages?
[01:39] <un_operateur> Flannel, yea, i know .. i was replying to bds's question about aptitude only deinstalling depends installed by itself
[01:39] <Quinn> Itried loading my already made ICC profile didn't sem to affect appearance of anything
[01:39] <alex_> i am trying to format my usb hard disk to ext3, but i cant seem to get it working with gparted.  I unmount the disk, and select format to ext3, but i get the error message "The following operation could not be applied to disk: Format /dev/sdc1 as ext3 See the details for more information ".  (The disk also mounts itself during this operation. ) Any ideas?
[01:40] <kp1723> Thug, If you hit ctrl+alt+f1 you can get to an old school termint.  ctrl+alt+f7 brings the gui back up.
[01:40] <Thug-N-Me> Flannel gnome-terminal it was working i mean starting a few min`s ago
[01:40] <sakura> Quinn: You have to be using it with a "color-aware" program
[01:40] <sakura> Quinn: Such as digikam
[01:40] <Quinn> sakura: Is there no way to color manage the entire desktop??
[01:40] <vitriol> alex_: why don't you just do 'mke2fs -j /dev/whatever
[01:40] <Thug-N-Me> kp1723 i don`t want that ...
[01:40] <sakura> Quinn: Not that I know of...
[01:40] <ebfex> noob question - i'm trying to get the sqlite command line client and it's not showing up in synaptic. the package i need is listed at packages.ubuntulinux.org ... how do i get those packages to show up in synaptic?
[01:41] <kp1723> thug, I had a feeling yoiu would say that :P
[01:41] <un_operateur> Thug-N-Me, you could install another terminal - xterm or urxvt .. as a backup
[01:41] <bds> Flannel, un_operateur: If newer versions of apt-get remove dependencies as well what are the advantages of aptitude for installing packages from the CLI?
[01:41] <Tox> i installed firestarter how to disable global  icmp request ?
[01:41] <Flannel> bds: the optional GUI?
[01:41] <Thug-N-Me> Flannel it try`s to get started but it fails . no error no nothing its just saying starting terminal then it stops after a while
[01:41] <Quinn> basically even viewing my photos look crap because my panel needs custom ICC, I am a photographer and graphic designer and the lack of support for color managment in linux i the only thing keeping me from never using windows
[01:41] <sakura> Tox: Preferences - ICMP filtering
[01:41] <Thug-N-Me> un_operateur yeah thanks
[01:42] <un_operateur> bds, aptitude has a better dependency-resolution algorithm -- so it works better when you have broken packages
[01:42] <alex_> vitriol, thanks
[01:42] <Flannel> ebfex: check to see on the website if they're in universe.  If so (I believe so), you probably don't have universe enabled in your repoitories
[01:42] <bds> Flannel, un_operateur: Thanks
[01:42] <sakura> Quinn: Yeah, same here... I'm battling ICC as well... and failing
[01:42] <tomas_> how do i make my log automatic, everytime i log to my computer it ask for my apsswprd and username
[01:42] <un_operateur> bds, apart from that -- it has better query formatting, searching, etc -- check out the doc/man pages of aptitude
[01:42] <lupine_85> tomas_: no password = automatic login
[01:42] <ebfex> Flannel: the site does say they're in universe. what config file do i need to modify?
[01:42] <Quinn> sakura: yeah its been driving me nuts
[01:42] <pl0id> un_operateur: that did the trick thanks so much!!!
[01:42] <Thug-N-Me> un_operateur i will reinstall my gnome-terminal might help
[01:43] <tomas_> how do i do that lupine?
[01:43] <Tox> shud i mark all requests ?
[01:43] <kp1723> So, anybody have a clue as to why X locks up my laptop when I try to exit my session?
[01:43] <un_operateur> pl0id, you are welcome :)
[01:43] <Flannel> !universe | ebfex
[01:43] <ubotu> ebfex: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[01:43] <ebfex> awesome, thank you
[01:43] <Flannel> ebfex: /etc/apt/sources.list is what you'll be editing, uncommenting the universe lines.
[01:43] <klohunt> does the FSF consider ubuntu free?
[01:43] <Thug-N-Me> un_operateur xterm its already installed how do i start it ?
[01:43] <ebfex> Flannel: great, thanks for the help
[01:44] <bds> un_operateur: I see, from reading the man pages for aptitude it seemed a bit superior to apt-get for a few things (I like the using the CLI), however, most of the ubuntu docs mention using apt-get?
[01:44] <bimberi> tomas_: do you mean autologon into Gnome? System -> Administration -> Login Window, Security Tab
[01:44] <un_operateur> klohunt, depends on what the FSF terms free really -- it's a very loose term in todays world of software and intellectual property :)
[01:44] <lupine_85> un_operateur: free as in freedom! :p
[01:44] <klohunt> un_operateur: I see
[01:45] <un_operateur> bds, well, traditionally apt-get does not install recommends while aptitude sometimes does -- so most docs prefer to use apt-get instead, it's lighter on the users
[01:45] <madman91> hey guys,, i need major firefox+mplayer-plugin+codec help.. and yes i googled.. and i followed guides.. issues up the bym
[01:45] <madman91> bum*
[01:45] <Flannel> klohunt: if you're looking for a 100% Free Ubuntu derivation, check out gNewSense
[01:45] <Thug-N-Me> need to know how do i start  xterm the gnome-terminal its not working anymore ;( does not start
[01:45] <sakura_> Gah. My computer borked.
[01:45] <Flannel> Thug-N-Me: alt-f2 will open a run dialog
[01:46] <Tox> !tos filtering
[01:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tos filtering - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:46] <klohunt> Flannel: thanks for the info. I dont really mind if things such as drivers are proprietary, I wouldnt change those anyway.
[01:46] <un_operateur> lupine_85, both the debian software guidelines and mozilla/MPL define "free" as in "freedom" but both claim the other as non-free .. or something like it :p
[01:46] <lupine_85> mozilla's MPL is not Free :)
[01:46] <magic_ninja> if i install a cdrom drive will ubuntu automatically detect and install it/
[01:47] <sakura_> magic_ninja: In most cases, yes.
[01:47] <Thug-N-Me> Flannel xterm does not start too
[01:47] <Flannel> klohunt: Software in ubuntu is separated into a few sections, there are Free ones, and not-so-free ones, you can always just avoid the not-so-free ones: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[01:47] <toulouse> !love
[01:47] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[01:47] <kp1723> thug, go System, Preferences, menu lay out.  then add it.
[01:47] <un_operateur> lupine_85, yea, well how come you get to use the software for no-charge, take and fork the source code with no restriction, etc then? :> :)
[01:47] <bds> un_operateur: I see, I guess I need to read up on the functionality of the recommends behavior
[01:47] <magic_ninja> sakura: ty sir installing this drive
[01:48] <klohunt> Flannel: thanks, I'll read that page
[01:48] <un_operateur> bds, it's nothing much -- just another field in the packages control file -- as show in  apt-cache show packagename
[01:48] <imbecile> how do i force quit firefox?
[01:48] <lupine_85> un_operateur: all those extra restrictions :p
[01:48] <lupine_85> imbecile: killall -9 firefox
[01:48] <un_operateur> s/show/shown/
[01:49] <Thug-N-Me> kp1723  shit man nothing starts anymore here need help
[01:49] <Thug-N-Me> kp1723 at least the menu layout its not staring :(
[01:49] <un_operateur> lupine_85, well, again, freedom is a relative thing, is it not? as in "freedom of speech and expression" too .. :)
[01:49] <kp1723> thug, NOTHING?
[01:49] <kp1723> that is beyond my skills
[01:49] <lupine_85> true
[01:49] <Thug-N-Me> kp1723 looks like nautilus is dead
[01:50] <lupine_85> that'll teach em
[01:50] <madman91> hey guys,, i need major firefox+mplayer-plugin+codec help.. and yes i googled.. and i followed guides.. can someone please give me a private "problem solving session" :D?
[01:50] <kp1723> I feel for you man
[01:50] <un_operateur> madman91, sudo aptitude install mozilla-mplayer mplayer
[01:51] <Thug-N-Me> Flannel nautilus does not start as well any idea what what can cause this ?
[01:51] <madman91> un_operateur: i have those installed
[01:51] <un_operateur> madman91, then you have everything you need :) whats the issue then?
[01:51] <madman91> un_operateur: well... i am on 64bit ubuntu.. so i installed 32bit 2.0 firefox ... i copied the plugin over.. but it wont play
[01:51] <madman91> un_operateur: i installed mplayer 32bit
[01:51] <Thug-N-Me> Flannel i did not touch anything its a fresh ubuntu install. looks like gnome-desktop or something like that does not work
[01:52] <madman91> un_operateur: and got all the codecs
[01:52] <un_operateur> madman91, well, quite naturally .. the codecs are all 32bit libraries
[01:52] <un_operateur> madman91, you might like to run firefox from within a 32 bit chroot
[01:52] <kp1723> madman91, 1a32-lbs installed?
[01:52] <MannyLNJ08753> Hello I installed Adobe Readier from a tar.gz but when I click on a pdf it opens in Evince. How can I force it to use Adobe Reader instead
[01:52] <madman91> kp1723: Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "1a32-lbs"
[01:52] <bimberi> !defaultapp | MannyLNJ08753
[01:52] <ubotu> MannyLNJ08753: To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[01:52] <kp1723> I mean ia32-libs
[01:52] <DrNic1> MannyLNJ08753: right-click any pdf file, and you can set the 'open with' preference from there :)
[01:53] <kp1723> sorry
[01:53] <madman91> kp1723: ?
[01:53] <DrNic1> have to say I really love the way ubuntu runs on the server.  its the best server distro ever IMO
[01:54] <kp1723> madman, sorry, but I meant to type ia32-libs
[01:54] <DrNic1> my spare celeron 550 is making a very nice lamp server, as well as download server
[01:54] <metal03> Small question...  how do I install plugins for Firefox?  I'm trying to install flash player but it says I have to run the installer directly from the terminal...  how do I do this?
[01:54] <jrib> !flash | metal03
[01:54] <ubotu> metal03: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:55] <IntuitiveNipple> Does anyone have GRUB expertise? I've got a weird error manually installing it with Edgy.
[01:55] <un_operateur> metal03, you need to install flash from APT not firefox -- use synaptic or aptitude to install !flash
[01:55] <[HUN] NetAngel> hi all
[01:55] <DrNic1> or use EasyUbuntu :)
[01:55] <kp1723> Hiya angel
[01:56] <[HUN] NetAngel> can you help me with some info?
[01:56] <DrNic1> go right ahead
[01:56] <kp1723> maybe, I am still learning all this though
[01:56] <kp1723> what do you need?
[01:56] <Gizmo_RA2> Not so small question relating to GCC, when I try to install some programs like turbogears I get the following error:   error: Setup script exited with error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1
[01:57] <DrNic1> Gizmo_RA2: that could be any number of problems.... does it tell you the gcc error which occured?
[01:57] <metal03> Un_operateur: merci, mais t'inquite j'ai jamais essaye directement  partir de ForeFox!  ;)
[01:57] <Flannel> !anyone | IntuitiveNipple
[01:57] <ubotu> IntuitiveNipple: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:57] <madman91> kp1723: yea i have those
[01:58] <[HUN] NetAngel> I'd like to "build" a small server (a closed server, for some hundreds users, with some thousends downloads a day)
[01:58] <kp1723> madman91, if you have those then you have what you need to run 32bit software.
[01:58] <[HUN] NetAngel> I thought ubuntu server edition is right for me
[01:58] <madman91> kp1723: i can run 32bit software fine... thats not the problem
[01:59] <DrNic1> [HUN] NetAngel: go on....
[01:59] <DrNic1> what kinna server software do you want to run?
[01:59] <Flannel> [HUN] NetAngel: users are what? people visiting the services?
[01:59] <kp1723> madman91, please explain in full
[01:59] <Flannel> [HUN] NetAngel: or people connected via thinclient
[01:59] <sdgr406> hi everyone.. would someone be willing to help me troubleshoot why I cannot burn cds/dvds? this install of ubuntu is about 4-5 days old and burning had been working fine (albeit slowly) until yesterday... I suspect a dbus update from yesterday but don't know what to check
[01:59] <[HUN] NetAngel> Flannel: it's a web-server
[02:00] <DrNic1> ubuntu server makes an excellent platform for that
[02:00] <Flannel> [HUN] NetAngel: then yeah, the server install is probably what you're looking for.
[02:00] <madman91> kp1723: i am on 64bit ubuntu 6.06 .... i installed 32bit firefox 2.0 from their site... i installed mplayer 32bit .. and the plugin... and all the codecs.. my firefox does not play videos
[02:00] <[HUN] NetAngel> but I have got a problem when I try to install
[02:00] <DrNic1> [HUN] NetAngel: in fact, you can install a LAMP server right out the box - in around 15 mins you can have it up and running!
[02:00] <Flannel> [HUN] NetAngel: which problem?
[02:00] <un_operateur> metal03, I'm not french as i'd appear to be :) but i got you -- firefox's plugin install doesnt work too good on non-windows, even on windows it sometimes fails when permissions are an issue -- moreover it's better to install a comprehensive codecs package using the superuser -- that way all applications get to see/use the codecs
[02:01] <DrNic1> [HUN] NetAngel: what appears to be the problem then?
[02:01] <un_operateur> madman91, are you using the 64bit firefox?
[02:01] <madman91> un_operateur: no.. 32bit firefox from their site .. version 2.0
[02:01] <[HUN] NetAngel> ubuntu does not see the SATA II Raid 5 array
[02:01] <Gizmo_RA2> metal03 sorry I am afk alot, I was sure that was the error it gave :S
[02:02] <DrNic1> ah right, yeah it might not depending on the SATA controller.  what chipset is the controller?
[02:02] <DrNic1> it might see the disks, but it might not see them as an array
[02:02] <metal03> un_operateur : I was just saying that I didn't try to install it from FireFox
[02:02] <un_operateur> madman91, errm, is it running from within a chroot?
[02:02] <[HUN] NetAngel> DrNic1: a moment
[02:02] <[HUN] NetAngel> I'll check
[02:02] <DrNic1> [HUN] NetAngel: sure
[02:02] <un_operateur> metal03, ahh well, statement stands :)
[02:02] <borg> what in ubuntu can i use to "network boot" a remote computer in my network with a foreign OS?
[02:02] <LogicalDash> I have network manager and its taskbar applet working, but for some reason the applet doesn't appear in the taskbar when I log in, even though I've already put nm-applet in Startup Applications. When I look in the system monitor, I even see that nm-applet has loaded on startup, but it doesn't appear in my notification area. What could be wrong?
[02:03] <Gizmo_RA2> metal03 the error it gave me was "implicit declaration of function"
[02:03] <madman91> un_operateur: no... just a 32bit .tar.gz ... running
[02:03] <[HUN] NetAngel> DrNic1: motherboard: Gigabyte 965P-DS4 with ICH8R and Gigabyte Sata controllers
[02:04] <[HUN] NetAngel> I created a Raid 5 array with 3 WD 320GB hds
[02:04] <sdgr406> whenever I insert a blank dvd I get a blank dvd+r icon on the desktop but if I try to run nautilus-cd-burner or brasero to burn something to it the disc ejects and I get an error to the effect of 'insert a recordable disc'. any idea why?
[02:04] <DrNic1> hmm, yeah see some "hardware" RAID controllers are actually not proper hardware controllers
[02:05] <Gizmo_RA2> so anyone want to help me find out why I can't compile some programs that use gcc??
[02:05] <[HUN] NetAngel> DrNic1: ok, what can I do?
[02:05] <VaMp|rO> DrNic1: can u help me pls?
[02:05] <[HUN] NetAngel> change the mobo?
[02:05] <Flannel> Gizmo_RA2: sounds like an issue with the source itself.
[02:05] <un_operateur> madman91, well, I'd expect that to get firefox working properly, it'd need to be run from within a chroot where all the libs and codecs are 32 bit too -- i dont use 64bit yet, you see, so  can't really say, but it seems there's quite some discussion on the net, google "64 bit firefox"
[02:05] <DrNic1> they're boards which use the driver to do a lot of the processing.  so yeah changing the motherboard, if thats an option would work
[02:05] <sdgr406> netangel - you could check if your controller is listed on http://linux-ata.org/driver-status.html
[02:05] <Flannel> !chroot | madman91, un_operateur
[02:05] <ubotu> madman91, un_operateur: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[02:06] <Gizmo_RA2> I tried installing turbogears and I tried installing a web client for xmms
[02:06] <madman91> thanks un_operateur Flannel
[02:06] <magic_ninja> is there anywhere to download the mozilla controls for cedega other then transgaming's site?
[02:06] <famicommie> Is there anyone around who wants to help me with my wireless connection -_-
[02:06] <RAV_TUX> PriceChild: ;-)
[02:07] <PriceChild> racarr: ?
[02:07] <Gizmo_RA2> I can help with wireless
[02:07] <racarr> PriceChild: ?
[02:07] <famicommie> Gizmo_RA2, I finally got my card recognized with ndiswrapper, but no matter what I do I can't see my router
[02:08] <Gizmo_RA2> :o
[02:08] <raphtee> \list
[02:08] <PriceChild> racarr: autocomplete messing up sorry
[02:08] <PriceChild> RAV_TUX: ?
[02:08] <famicommie> Gizmo_RA2, I have a card with a fancy MiMo antenna, and the laptop I have right next to me sees the router no problem.
[02:08] <Gizmo_RA2> oh ok, ndiswrapper can be a nightmare to get going, not that it helps you at all
[02:08] <sdgr406> netangel - actually the Intel ICH is the first controller listed on the link I provided
[02:08] <famicommie> Gizmo_RA2, Even moar exasperating is that I can see my neighbor's router
[02:08] <Gizmo_RA2> :o
[02:08] <Gizmo_RA2> ok I can see whats happening I think
[02:08] <[HUN] NetAngel> DrNic1: I'm sad, changing motherboard is the last option for me (us) :-(
[02:09] <raphtee> does anyone know much about anjuta 2?
[02:09] <famicommie> What's happening?
[02:09] <RAV_TUX> PriceChild: just a friendly ping ;-p
[02:09] <Gizmo_RA2> famicommie what protocol are you using on your router??
[02:09] <famicommie> WEP
[02:09] <famicommie> 128bit methinks
[02:10] <Gizmo_RA2> ok cause some cards don't see some protocols, is your neighbours one open or encrypted
[02:10] <Gizmo_RA2> afk
[02:10] <famicommie> encrypted
[02:10] <[HUN] NetAngel> sdgr406: on the link the controller I use (ICHxx) is listed
[02:10] <tomas_> starting for me is slow, i am using 6.10, any possible fix or things i can check
[02:10] <Gizmo_RA2> back
[02:10] <sunexplodes> tomas: what part of startup is slow?
[02:11] <Quinn> could anyone help me with setting up a remote desktop connection to a windows pc on my network?
[02:11] <Gizmo_RA2> ok what about the frequency is your router the same frequnecy as your neighbours?? that can cause interference
[02:11] <tomas_> i dont know how to call their parts
[02:11] <tomas_> but as soon as i boot it
[02:11] <tomas_> it takes 2-5 minutes
[02:11] <famicommie> I don't know how to check my neighbor's router's frequency...
[02:11] <tomas_> before fulling showing me my desktop
[02:11] <Yokatta> Quinn how big is the network
[02:12] <sunexplodes> okay. the part of startup where you see the splash screen, before the login is typically a little slow. IF you're experiencing a LONG wait AFTER logging in, there's a variety of things it could be
[02:12] <Gizmo_RA2> sorry went afk again
[02:12] <Quinn> Yokatta: just a simple windows home network, 2 desktops other than mine on it
[02:12] <famicommie> s'okay, I'm not going anywhere
[02:13] <Gizmo_RA2> did you get my pm???
[02:13] <famicommie> nope.
[02:13] <kp1723> When I try to exit/hibernate/suspend an x session mt laptop locks up.  Any ideas?
[02:14] <Gizmo_RA2> ok click my name in the list (or double click) and it should bring up a window
[02:14] <tomas_> sunexplodes, is there a command i can use to check what maybe the reasons for the slow startup
[02:14] <no-sleep> good night all
[02:14] <Sphynx> kp1723, funny enough - I was just about to ask about the same thing - on my desktop.
[02:15] <sdgr406> tomas_:  is it only startup that's slow or is the desktop environment in general slow? your host file may be misconfigured
[02:15] <Quinn> opps, I'm back
[02:15] <factotum> when I try to start X up, i get an error that the kbd module isnt loaded, what is the command to load it, insmod or something?
[02:15] <tomas_> i am a new, i dont know what a desktop environment is
[02:15] <Sphynx> kp1723, can you enter a virtual terminal?  Mine will lock on that as well.
[02:15] <kp1723> Sphynx, I think it's cause I have too much RAM LOL
[02:15] <tomas_> but here what i have done, i enabled the AUTOMATIC LOGIN
[02:15] <sdgr406> tomas_:  gnome.. your desktop. are all of your programs slow or just the startup portion?
[02:15] <tomas_> but still it is still slow
[02:15] <kp1723> I can open a terminal
[02:16] <tomas_> just the start up i think
[02:16] <verve> hey.. i just tried out Ubuntu for the first time, the livecd.. very impressed.. everything was configured automatically, didn't touch a thing.. the only 'glitch' i experienced was when i restarted, it ejected the cd told me to press enter to continue, but that didn't work, and alt-ctrl-del kept looping the process, so i had to hard reset.. no big deal though
[02:16] <Sphynx> kp1723, I mean a virtual terminal.  IE, ALT + F1 - F6.
[02:16] <Quinn> hey anyone want to help me set up a remote desktop connection to a windows pc on my network ??
[02:16] <verve> just had a question though.. what form does configuration take in Ubuntu, when i'm prepared to install it to my hdd? i'm used to console, then doing startx, not booting into x11.. i don't mind, just.. kind of disoriented
[02:16] <kp1723> Yes
[02:16] <Gizmo_RA2> famicommie you getting my pm's now???
[02:17] <Sphynx> Quinn, check out RDesktop or VNC.
[02:17] <famicommie> Gizmo_RA2, Nope :(
[02:17] <verve> which filesystems are available/recommended for Ubuntu?
[02:17] <Gizmo_RA2> they should be in the window that came up when you double clicked my name :S
[02:17] <verve> last time i messed with Linux, i was looking at XFS
[02:17] <kp1723> In fact everything else works great, but if I keep hard booting the system sooner or later it won't come back up.
[02:17] <famicommie> I have a window with your name, but it's empty...
[02:17] <Sphynx> verve, I used to recommend Reiser - However, with Hans going to jail..  I'd suggest Ext 3.
[02:17] <verve> haha
[02:17] <sunexplodes> ubuntu uses the ext3 file system by default
[02:17] <Quinn> Sphynx, I have RDesktop installed, don't know how to get it to work, I should be able to put the comps IPin the Comp Name field correct?
[02:18] <Gizmo_RA2> bassically I think ndiswrapper is limiting you to one frequency
[02:18] <Sphynx> Quinn, correct.
[02:18] <Gizmo_RA2> and it just happens to be the frequency of your neighbours wireless
[02:18] <verve> and what about kernel config and compilation, and ports or packages or whatever.. (i'm a BSD guy).. is there some fancy gui thing?
[02:18] <verve> or do i just open a terminal up or what?
[02:18] <Quinn> Sphynx, doesn't do anything
[02:18] <famicommie> Is there a way to configure the frequency?
[02:18] <sdgr406> verve: apt-get from command line or synaptic GUI
[02:19] <Sphynx> verve - I come from the Gentoo world.. fairly new to Ubuntu.  Synaptic is the GUI for package management..
[02:19] <Sphynx> verve - for cli, I think it's Aptitude.
[02:19] <tomas_> Is there a program that can check the speed of the my computer in term of booting
[02:19] <verve> i'm really impressed though.. i was expecting there to be some pain involved, having to tweak something or other
[02:19] <famicommie> Quinn,  To connect to a windows PC in my house I simply selected "Connect to Server" from under the "places" menu and configured it from there.
[02:19] <verve> but everything was auto-configured
[02:19] <verve> i'm stoked
[02:19] <verve> heh
[02:19] <sunexplodes> yeah, it's pretty sharp
[02:19] <sdgr406> I'm from Gentoo too.. in fact this machine was running gentoo until the hard drive died.. now it's running edgy
[02:19] <Sphynx> famicommie, he means an RDP session
[02:20] <famicommie> :x
[02:20] <Gizmo_RA2> not sure, I stopped using ndiswrapper when i couldn't get it going, try asking your neighbour what frequency there using, and set yours to the same frequency
[02:20] <verve> i just ruined a 104 day uptime in FreeBSD to boot into Ubuntu
[02:20] <verve> i'm sad
[02:20] <verve> heh
[02:20] <kp1723> verve, I though I did something worng when I installed and I didn't have to recompile my kernel to get something working
[02:20] <borg> what in ubuntu can i use to "network boot" a remote computer in my network with a foreign OS?
[02:20] <Quinn> famiecommie, which service type?
[02:20] <famicommie> Windows share
[02:20] <[HUN] NetAngel> can anyone suggest me an Intel Core2 Duo motherboard, with onboard SATA Raid 5 capability, then ubuntu server edition supports?
[02:21] <Sphynx> verve, I know where you're coming from.  I was impressed with SLED..  but god all mighty it's slow.  I'm much happier with this install.  It's the best of both worlds..  easy to configure and fast.
[02:21] <famicommie> Gizmo_RA2, So basically, I have to ask my neighbor what frequency their router is set to, and then change my router to that frequency as well?
[02:21] <kp1723> Angel, why not get a real RAID5 controller?
[02:21] <Gizmo_RA2> try that and see if it works
[02:21] <MagicFab> hi all - what would be a good Japanese input method for someone moving from Windows ?
[02:21] <verve> Sphynx: oh, i'm installing it.. just waiting to get my dvd burner
[02:21] <kp1723> It'll cost about the same
[02:21] <Gizmo_RA2> if it works then you have to figure out how to set the frequency manually
[02:21] <verve> so i don't have to use like 20 cdrs to back up my shit
[02:21] <Quinn> fammicommie, what I am trying to do is remote desktop connection, not browse that comps shared folders
[02:22] <verve> i just wanted to try it out first
[02:22] <verve> i love BSD, but Linux is more suited to my needs
[02:22] <Sphynx> verve - each has their uses ;)
[02:22] <verve> gf keeps bugging me to play Diablo 2, Windows hates this machine, and i have a sneaking suspicion i'll be able to get it working in Linux
[02:22] <famicommie> Gizmo_RA2,  okay, well, that's an adventure for another day I guess.
[02:22] <famicommie> Thank you
[02:22] <verve> BSD + Wine + Diablo 2 don't play well together
[02:22] <sdgr406> diablo 2 is supported in cedega
[02:22] <Sphynx> verve - I believe I've had it running under winex.
[02:22] <Gizmo_RA2> or you can run netstumbler on a windows machin
[02:22] <sunexplodes> you're probably right, diablo 2 works well in wine
[02:23] <[HUN] NetAngel> kp1723: ok, I'm new to this "RAID-thing", which RAID-controller (with RAID 5 functionality) is right for me (and doesn't cost like gold)?
[02:23] <Gizmo_RA2> that will also tell you what frequency it's on
[02:23] <kp1723> Angel, check out Apaptec's web site.
[02:23] <Gizmo_RA2> famicommie try netstumbler under windows
[02:23] <kp1723> I mean Adaptec
[02:23] <verve> oh, another thing.. i checked out netstat while i was in the livecd and i noticed some ports open on 127.0.0.1.. 631, 3008 (or something) and another one
[02:24] <verve> are those, like.. required by Ubuntu?
[02:24] <kp1723> God I suck at typing
[02:24] <verve> and not open to the world anyway, right?
[02:24] <Gizmo_RA2> anyone know how to get turbogears running under ubuntu dapper??
[02:24] <Sphynx> verve - Hrm.  Not sure.  I didn't think to look on the livecd like that.
[02:24] <IntuitiveNipple> verve: correct
[02:24] <IntuitiveNipple> 127.0.0.1 is localhost
[02:24] <verve> yeah
[02:24] <verve> oh, i know that.. just paranoid and making sure
[02:24] <verve> :P
[02:25] <sdgr406> apparently 631 is Internet Printing Protocol
[02:25] <verve> ah
[02:25] <Sphynx> Heh, pretty sure if the man is using Netstat, he knows what localhost is.
[02:25] <sdgr406> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_TCP_and_UDP_port_numbers
[02:25] <famicommie> Gizmo_RA2, None of my windows machines have a powerful enough wifi card, and it's too cold and dark to go stumbling around with the laptop. I'll just have to ask them tomorrow.
[02:25] <[HUN] NetAngel> kp1723: thx, checking
[02:25] <kp1723> There is no place like 127.0.0.1
[02:25] <IntuitiveNipple> there's no place like gnome :p
[02:25] <verve> i love the little african-sounding startup sound, too
[02:25] <verve> and the default color scheme/theme/background
[02:25] <verve> very earthy, etc
[02:26] <Sphynx> I could live without the default crap.
[02:26] <IntuitiveNipple> Any GRUB maestroes in? I have a tough one to solve with Edgy!
[02:26] <verve> sorry, i'm enamoured, hah
[02:26] <theflyingfool> without using synaptic can i check the version of a program?
[02:26] <Sphynx> Seeing as it never snows in Texas, I prefer my Beryl snow.
[02:26] <Sphynx> theflyingfool, Help | About ?
[02:27] <Sasa> hello all. I have a very simple dilemma that I cannot figure out. I am trying to burn a CD using Serpentine Audio CD creator. My blank CD is large enough to accommodate the MP3 files I have selected. However, I get a message that I need to enlarge the cache location. There is nothing in the preferences to let me increase allocated cache space for the serpentine program. Help please?
[02:27] <verve> how's that work? just install it via Synaptic in Gnome and it Beryl's on or what?
[02:27] <kp1723> Sphynx, where are you in Texas?
[02:27] <enyc> IntuitiveNipple: MAYBE>>> what exactly is happening?
[02:27] <verve> -ot
[02:27] <verve> er
[02:27] <verve> -it
[02:27] <Sphynx> kp1723, Dallas ;)
[02:27] <kp1723> w00t
[02:27] <verve> i have to relearn Linux, been in BSD too long, heh
[02:27] <kp1723> Where at in Dallas?
[02:27] <Sphynx> verve, Have to do the Beryl install..  it's in the latest install under toys.
[02:27] <verve> AHM SKEERED, MA
[02:27] <IntuitiveNipple> enyc: I've documented it in the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=333708
[02:28] <kp1723> I used to live at 635 and Skillman
[02:28] <verve> what about kernel stuff? that all command line still, or has someone created a fancy gui whizzbang for it?
[02:28] <Sphynx> kp1723, Las Colinas area.
[02:28] <kp1723> Ah
[02:28] <iain> Are there any special steps I need to take to install Ubuntu on a 64M system?
[02:28] <kp1723> nice place
[02:28] <burepe> !samba
[02:28] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:29] <Sphynx> kp1723, I have friends right over there..  635 and Skillman, I mean
[02:29] <Sphynx> verve - Kernel level stuff.. I still prefer the menuconfig.  However, I think KDE has a tool for kernel options.
[02:29] <kp1723> Sphynx, I am in Chicago now, but sometimes I miss being able to order real buiscuts and gravy
[02:29] <RAV_TUX> macd: boo!
[02:30] <enyc> IntuitiveNipple: apologies, I do not know about fakeaid myself.... and a do not know enough about grub to answer ;-(
[02:30] <Sasa> anyone?
[02:30] <Sphynx> kp1723, lol..  love Chicago man.  Giordano's is the place of gods.  My fiance lived there for a while.
[02:30] <enyc> IntuitiveNipple: I colud see you might want to persuade grub that (hd0) is actually /dew/dm0 or whatever manually then put grub on (hd0)
[02:30] <kp1723> I work right by Giordano's!
[02:30] <LostProject> I'm dual-booting Win XP and Ubuntu and everytime I boot into Windows, my wireless adapter stops working in Windows and Ubuntu and I have to unplug it and plug it back in to get it started again
[02:31] <kp1723> God they have great PIzza
[02:31] <Sasa> hello all. I have a very simple dilemma that I cannot figure out. I am trying to burn a CD using Serpentine Audio CD creator. My blank CD is large enough to accommodate the MP3 files I have selected. However, I get a message that I need to enlarge the cache location. There is nothing in the preferences to let me increase allocated cache space for the serpentine program. Help please?
[02:31] <Sphynx> Good grief man..  if I worked there, I'd weigh 500lbs.
[02:31] <enyc> IntuitiveNipple: personally I would avaid fakeraid ;-) ... set the bios etc. to single-disks mode and use linux software raid or LVM  if possible
[02:31] <IntuitiveNipple> enyc: thanks for looking. - yes, I have and it accepts that
[02:31] <superkirbyartist> Any ideas for lightweight sound recorder?
[02:31] <Gizmo_RA2> LostProject just don't boot windows ;) remove it completely
[02:32] <LostProject> i appreciate the humor, but i really do need help
[02:32] <professor> hey people
[02:32] <Sphynx> IntuitiveNipple, I'm reading..  I'll see if I can think of anything.
[02:32] <Gizmo_RA2> ok
[02:32] <IntuitiveNipple> Sphynx: many thanks... this has been taxing my brain for 8 hours now :)
[02:32] <ec> i need to uninstall madwifi(drapper drake) in order to reinstall one with openhal how do i do that?
[02:32] <Gizmo_RA2> um it is to do with the way windows initialises usb devices
[02:32] <Smegzor> I keep getting 'can't stat source..' when trying apt-get update.  I just changed my sources list via the ubuntu source-o-matic source list generator and I still get the same error.  What might be wrong?
[02:32] <Gizmo_RA2> I used to have the same problem with my mouse
[02:32] <Thug-N-Me> how do i start bittorrent-gui ?
[02:33] <professor> I have tried for the past 3 days getting wireless to work in ubuntu on my compaq, I have decided, ubuntu on desktop, easy to figure out, on a laptop hard as hell
[02:33] <IntuitiveNipple> My primary issue is I can't find out what the actual error means, seeing as the files themselves aren't corrupt or from different versions.
[02:33] <magic_ninja> Thug-N-Me: type bittorent-gui in terminal
[02:33] <Sasa> people
[02:33] <Sasa> seriously
[02:33] <Sasa> is anyone here
[02:33] <Sasa> am I invisible?
[02:33] <Sasa> helloooooooo
[02:33] <meleeglow> have an issue with ubuntu all my app downloads go extremely slow, why, how can I fix it
[02:33] <Thug-N-Me> magic_ninja doesnt work i tryed
[02:33] <Smegzor> yep
[02:33] <professor> sasa what do you need
[02:33] <magic_ninja> Thug-N-Me: i reccomend trying azureus if you've a faster system, if its slow like mine use bittornado, it works great
[02:33] <Sasa> thank you so much sir
[02:33] <Sasa> seriously, thank you
[02:33] <Sasa> I pasted my question
[02:33] <magic_ninja> Thug-N-Me: apt-get install bittornado
[02:33] <Sasa> here it is
[02:33] <lucky_> whats a program i can use to see if my webcam is working properly?
[02:33] <Sasa> thank you again
[02:33] <Sasa> hello all. I have a very simple dilemma that I cannot figure out. I am trying to burn a CD using Serpentine Audio CD creator. My blank CD is large enough to accommodate the MP3 files I have selected. However, I get a message that I need to enlarge the cache location. There is nothing in the preferences to let me increase allocated cache space for the serpentine program. Help please?
[02:33] <Sphynx> Sasa, never used that app
[02:33] <LostProject> Gizo_RA2: do you remember how you fixed it?
[02:33] <burepe> I shared some folders via samba my mac finds them but after I give it the password is says that the alias to the server can not be found. Any ideas as to why?
[02:34] <bds> Sasa, there are many people here, please be patient
[02:34] <Sasa> sphynx, it came with my edgy install
[02:34] <jakob> Quick question; How do I disable write protection?
[02:34] <Thug-N-Me> magic_ninja so i should get rid of bitorrent ?
[02:34] <professor> lol not sure about that one, use gnome banker
[02:34] <Thug-N-Me> magic_ninja the default one ?
[02:34] <magic_ninja> Sasa: sudo apt-get install k3b
[02:34] <Sasa> bds, I agree I overreacted
[02:34] <kp1723> Sasa, if no one knows, no one will answer
[02:34] <magic_ninja> Thug-N-Me: it won't but bittorrent is a lib for bittornado
[02:34] <Sphynx> Sasa, I'm a bit of a nazi when it comes to burning.  I insist on using K3b.
[02:34] <Caius> hi, is there anyway to force a HD to spin down, theres nothing in Power Management about it?
[02:34] <ec> is there a directory where apt-get store the name of the installed packages?
[02:34] <enyc> IntuitiveNipple: I do know that you can use grub setup() from anocther system... e.g.g try KNOPPIX 5.1.1 ...
[02:34] <magic_ninja> apt-cache
[02:34] <Sasa> that's totcally cool, I'm willing to download any app that'll work
[02:35] <enyc> IntuitiveNipple: it might work aroundh your problem
[02:35] <Sasa> K3B?
[02:35] <Sphynx> Yes
[02:35] <jakob> ec I'm not sure, but you can try synaptic
[02:35] <enyc> IntuitiveNipple: but you'd need fakeraid setup there too of course
[02:35] <verve> thanks a lot guys.. i'll be back when i'm ready to install.. once again, friendly channel!
[02:35] <verve> unlike some i've been in over the years
[02:35] <verve> heh
[02:35] <IntuitiveNipple> enyc: eeek, one's enough right now. I don't see how a different distro would help me, except to confuse me :)
[02:35] <jakob> Can someone tell me how I disable write protection?
[02:35] <bds> !k3b | Sasa
[02:35] <ubotu> Sasa: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[02:35] <Sasa> thank you Sphynx, can I get that from the "Applications" dropdown
[02:35] <verve> <3
[02:35] <Thug-N-Me> magic_ninja ok
[02:35] <Sphynx> take it easy, verve
[02:35] <Sasa> thank you ubotu
[02:35] <Sasa> wow
[02:35] <ec> jakob: the problem is that i need to uninstall madwifi...and i don t think it s in synaptic
[02:35] <enyc> IntuitiveNipple: you dont understand...
[02:35] <enyc> In	
[02:35] <imbecile> xenex,  do they ever ban your username or ip in relay?
[02:35] <Sasa> you people ROCK
[02:35] <Sphynx> Sasa, yes..  under Media.
[02:36] <lucky_> anyone know a program that will show the webcam on screen for me. like show the output in real time?
[02:36] <Sasa> thank you, i'm trying it now
[02:36] <enyc> IntuitiveNipple: you can do the grub 'setup' when booted from KNOPPIX live cd....
[02:36] <Godsey> I accidently deleted debian/config/i386/config.server, how can I use git to get it again?
[02:36] <enyc> IntuitiveNipple: Ive done it before ;-)
[02:36] <Sasa> wow, I haven't received this kinda support since last time I called Microsoft
[02:36] <jewbilee> Could anyone provide me a link to a Ubuntu logo large enough to make wallpapers with?
[02:36] <Sasa> oh wait....do they even have a phone number?
[02:36] <Grote> Naconkantari is gay LOL
[02:36] <capiira> hmmmm hi how well does a ubuntu usually upgrade? i mean from an older version like 4->5->6->7->..... anyone here with experience?
[02:36] <imbecile> Sasa,  I've noticed the people in here are really helpful and friendly
[02:36] <Caius> so is there anyway to force a HD to spin down, as theres nothing in Power Management about it?
[02:36] <Sasa> isn't it great?
[02:36] <jakob> ec I don't remember the command for removing software, but it should be fairly easy. Someone here should be able to help you.
[02:36] <Sasa> seriously
[02:36] <iain> jewbilee: Have you looked around http://art.ubuntu.com/main.php ?
[02:36] <enyc> IntuitiveNipple: given that these are both grub 0.9x versions ...
[02:37] <jewbilee> iain: no, thank you, i will do that now
[02:37] <sdgr406> I hate to repeat my question but can someone help with my burning problem? it's driving me nuts
[02:37] <IntuitiveNipple> enyc: Oh, yes, I understood that, but i'd still be relying on the same packages (dmraid and grub) so I'm not sure I'd be better off, especially as I have still to install the ubuntu-dmraid into the initrd too
[02:37] <kp1723>  When I try to exit/hibernate/suspend an x session mt laptop locks up.  Any ideas?
[02:38] <jrib> capiira: I'm on edgy now coming from hoary.  Has always worked ok for me.  I may have had to tinker a little bit if I upgraded before it was a stable release
[02:38] <enyc> IntuitiveNipple: i do understand... I seriously suggest you turn off the software raid in controller BIOS ,blank the dinsk  and use linux software raid  if you can
[02:38] <enyc> IntuitiveNipple: as it will make things a lot easier
[02:38] <Sasa> quick side question as my app is downloading - does Edgy support wireless WPA encryption ?
[02:38] <enyc> IntuitiveNipple: it just means you wont be able to directly boot from the second hdd
[02:39] <IntuitiveNipple> enyc: I can't, because of the existing Windows installation which has to remain
[02:39] <kp1723>  sdgr406, it helps to state the full problem :)
[02:39] <enyc> Sasa: i think this really depends on the chipset/driver type... I suspect for non-ndiswrapper driver the answer is yes...
[02:39] <Smegzor> Is there an easy way to tell if I am running Hoary, Edgy or some other release?  My sources list has bits of both.
[02:39] <sdgr406> kp1723: whenever I insert a blank dvd I get a blank dvd+r icon on the desktop but if I try to run nautilus-cd-burner or brasero to burn something to it the disc ejects and I get an error to the effect of 'insert a recordable disc'. any idea why?
[02:39] <enyc> IntuitiveNipple: well dont expect it to work easily then
[02:39] <enyc> IntuitiveNipple: sorry...
[02:39] <Sphynx> IntuitiveNipple, I know it's not what you want to hear, but I agree with enyc on this one.  The software raid really doesn't increase performance any measureable way..  If you insist on software raid, use the linux raid.  But the best thing to do is buy a true raid controller.
[02:39] <IntuitiveNipple> Sasa: yes, I've got it via wpa_supplicant
[02:40] <sdgr406> Smegzor: 'cat /etc/issue'
[02:40] <Sasa> intutitive: pardon my lack of knowledge here, what is WPA_supplicant?
[02:40] <magic_ninja> how do i figure out what nvidia driver version i'm using
[02:40] <kp1723> sdgr, does GnomeBaker do the same thing?
[02:40] <IntuitiveNipple> Sphynx, its not about performance, just safety. these servers have been running fine for years like this with Windows
[02:40] <sdgr406> kp1723:  haven't tried it.. problem is burning was working fine in brasero until a day or two ago
[02:40] <IntuitiveNipple> Sasa: its a package that supports WPA for WiFi cards
[02:41] <sdgr406> the only thing I changed was to ad amd74xx in /etc/modules and update the system (which updated dbus)
[02:41] <Sasa> intuitive: where can I get it?
[02:41] <sdgr406> I reverted the change in /etc/modules but that didn't help
[02:41] <kp1723> sdgr, if so then it might be mounting issue, but honestly I am not sure
[02:41] <IntuitiveNipple> Is installed by default by Edgy Eft I believe
[02:41] <sdgr406> I even did gksudo brasero and it still isn't accepting it
[02:41] <Sasa> hm
[02:41] <Sasa> I'll look around again
[02:41] <capiira> jrib: ahh ok, does ubuntu use debians upgrade system? i mean by adding "testing" to the source.list so you can always update it and someday you end on the next release?!?!
[02:41] <Sphynx> IntuitiveNipple, I realize that it works in windows..  but only because of the driver support.  It's just not a supported config, that I am aware of, under linux... and that's not distro specific.  I've had all sorts of hell trying to get software/bios raid to work in linux.
[02:41] <Sasa> I remember not being able to get it done so I gave upand plugged the cat cable
[02:42] <kp1723> I'm hitting fridge, anybody want anything?
[02:42] <IntuitiveNipple> well dmraid is working fine and i have read/write access to the NTFS partitions via ntfs-3g, thats not been an issue
[02:42] <Sphynx> Sasa - wireless in linux has gotten easier.
[02:42] <Sasa> is that wpa_supplicant an application?
[02:42] <Thug-N-Me> magic_ninja whats your favorite torrent search :) ?
[02:42] <Sasa> or something elese
[02:42] <IntuitiveNipple> the issue at the moment is GRUB and the Error 5 interpretation
[02:42] <IntuitiveNipple> sorry, Error 6 !
[02:42] <Sasa> sphynx: i'm glad, cos I only have a 3-foot network cable
[02:43] <Cooner750> Hello!
[02:43] <Sphynx> IntuitiveNipple, quite honestly, I've always ended up beating my head and giving up on it.  I fear that this is something I cannot assist with :(
[02:43] <sdgr406> IntuitiveNipple: did you check http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Stage2-errors.html
[02:43] <sdgr406> ?
[02:43] <Sasa> it sux sitting up against the wall with my laptop all night:)
[02:43] <josh0403> juano,  are you there?
[02:43] <juano> josh0403: yes
[02:43] <mphill> i deleted my /etc/xen files during testing, i am trying to reinstall the conf files but they won't come back, which command should i type to get the conf files back?
[02:43] <jrib> capiira: kind of.  Right now "feisty" is the name of the future release set for april.  So you could use those repositories.  Then on april you will end up with feisty.  But the next release will have a different name
[02:43] <imbecile> Sasa,  what wireless card do you have?
[02:43] <IntuitiveNipple> sdgr506: yes, i did. It doesn't really explain the underlying cause of the error.
[02:44] <josh0403> well I succesfully installed Ubuntu and I was wondering if you could help me again
[02:44] <IntuitiveNipple> I think i'm going to be digging into the GRUB source now
[02:44] <Smegzor> ok I'm using Hoary.  I still haven't had any luck fixing my sources.list (can't stat..)  It seems all of my sources don't exist.  This is from the source list generator on the ubuntu website.  I'm a Windows user *ducks* and I'm all out of clues.
[02:44] <Sasa> inb: i purchased a dell trumobile and installed it in the minipci slot
[02:44] <Cooner750> I am having a problem here in Ubuntu. Running the latest version. I am getting odd "lines" and "dots" on dialog buttons and other things in my install. The video is reported as "0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE] " Help please?
[02:44] <Sasa> on an insprion
[02:44] <Sasa> inspiron
[02:44] <jrib> Smegzor: is this a new install with not much on it?
[02:44] <Smegzor> not new and its the 64bit version
[02:45] <Skillet^> Bleh, I got my Linksys WUSB11 setup perfectly according to iwlist (access point address and all), but the connection completely refused to work anyway
[02:45] <sdgr406> Smegzor: update-manager should be able to do a distribution upgrade for you... I forget the exact syntax but it's on the official page somehwere. I think it's update-manager -c or something
[02:45] <bds> Cooner750: I had the same problem with an ATI card, let me see if I can google what I did
[02:45] <josh0403> juano,  I installed ubuntu but now I need to install my ati gpu again
[02:45] <jrib> Smegzor: ok, well pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list and the errors you get when you try to apt-get update.  But hoary is at end-of-life now, so you should consider upgrading
[02:46] <Smegzor> What does it update?  From Hoary to Edgy?  or something else?  ok.
[02:46] <iain> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a 64M system, but when the X server loads, GDM doesn't.  Anyone have a solution?
[02:46] <Thug-N-Me> ls totem better the mplayer ?
[02:46] <Sasa> haha
[02:46] <Sasa> that was my test to see if my wireless card works
[02:46] <imbecile> Sasa,  go to <system> <admin> <networking tools> and tell me if it says your card is working
[02:46] <juano> josh0403: k
[02:46] <Sasa> the whole thing toop a huge poop
[02:46] <juano> !ati
[02:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:46] <jrib> Thug-N-Me: whatever works better for you is better for you
[02:46] <capiira> ahh ok thx jrib!
[02:47] <capiira> then let me try ubuntu
[02:47] <Thug-N-Me> jrib that`s right :)
[02:47] <juano> josh0403: try that https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:47] <Skillet^> I've also been having issues with the networking config page
[02:47] <Smegzor> i'm quite happy to update from Hoary but have never done that before.  There's a how-to for this?  Or will the update you already mentioned do it?
[02:47] <kp1723> Thug, I think totem is better because I can'y get mplayer to open dvds
[02:47] <Skillet^> It seems to crap out if I try to disable the ethernet adapter
[02:47] <Thug-N-Me> jrib but whta would be you choise ?
[02:47] <jrib> capiira: I wouldn't recommend using the devel version of ubuntu on a system you use regularly though, just to give you a fair warning
[02:47] <Thug-N-Me> choose :)
[02:47] <jrib> Thug-N-Me: I like mplayer
[02:47] <capiira> ohhh
[02:48] <Sasa> imb: there is IPv4 protocol and it's giving me my local network's ip address under broadcast tab
[02:48] <capiira> its not stable as debians testing ?
[02:48] <Sasa> so it looks like it's picking it up
[02:48] <Sasa> I did set it up under networking, including providing my wep key
[02:48] <magic_ninja> how do i find out what version of the nvidia driver i'm running
[02:48] <Falstius> Thug-N-Me: I like vlc, it seems to give better playback, especially on older machines.
[02:48] <Thug-N-Me> Falstius i will try it too, thanks
[02:49] <imbecile> Sasa,  go to <system> <admin> <networking > (sorry sent u to wrong spot)and tell me if it says your card is working
[02:49] <Sasa> ok
[02:49] <Sasa> 1 sec
[02:49] <jrib> capiira: well it gets worked on for 6 months, at the beginning their tends to be some bumpy times sometimes.  ie sometimes you won't have X for a few days.  As it progresses, it gets more stable of course.  It's really intended to be used by people who want to help developing, bug finding, etc.
[02:49] <jrib> s/their/there
[02:49] <Smegzor> hmm..  this could be my problem.  I'm running Hoary but my new sources.list has entries for Edgy (not Hoary).
[02:49] <Sasa> imb: it does not say if it's working or not
[02:49] <Sasa> all three connections are enabled
[02:50] <Sasa> this is where I config'd the wireless
[02:50] <bds> Cooner750: You still there/
[02:50] <imbecile> Sasa,  double click on your wireless connection and see if its active
[02:50] <capiira> ohhhh ok :) hhehee
[02:50] <Cooner750> bds: Yes
[02:50] <bds> Cooner750: I think this is what I did https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/34435
[02:50] <Cooner750> bds: Be sure to put "cooner750:" before your messages so that it alerts XChat
[02:50] <sdgr406> Smegzor: check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:51] <Smegzor> thanks
[02:51] <bds> Confuser: Modified my xorg file so "RenderAccel" "off"
[02:51] <sdgr406> Smegzor: you would want the link for 5.04 to 5.10
[02:51] <jrib> !upgrade | Smegzor
[02:51] <ubotu> Smegzor: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:51] <bds> Confuser: Modified my xorg file so "RenderAccel" "off"
[02:51] <capiira> will i need to download the cd to upgrade to the next version ?
[02:51] <imbecile> Sasa, it should show a wireless card and say "the interface *blank* is active or inactive
[02:51] <Cooner750> bds: So if I use a different theme, will it go away?
[02:51] <jrib> capiira: nope
[02:51] <jrib> !upgrade | capiira
[02:51] <ubotu> capiira: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:52] <Sasa> hm, it's not showing it, imb
[02:52] <sdgr406> ooh, nifty
[02:52] <capiira> thx
[02:52] <bds> Cooner750: I modified my xorg file "RenderAccel" "off"
[02:52] <imbecile> sasa, you may need to load drivers manually
[02:52] <Sasa> it gives me a checkbox to enable "this connection" which I did, of course
[02:52] <capiira> let me read that and then try the live cd
[02:52] <Sasa> then it lists the wireless network name
[02:52] <jewbilee> Can someone tell me how to open a .SVG file?
[02:52] <Sasa> my wep key
[02:52] <Cooner750> Erm
[02:52] <Cooner750> what's going on here
[02:52] <Sasa> and DHCP for my conn settings
[02:52] <jrib> jewbilee: double click on it
[02:52] <Cooner750> it never asked me for a root password. What is the root password?
[02:53] <jewbilee> jrib: for editing
[02:53] <jrib> !root | Cooner750
[02:53] <ubotu> Cooner750: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:53] <jrib> jewbilee: you can use inkscape
[02:53] <jewbilee> jrib: sorry, forgot to mention that
[02:53] <sdgr406> jewbilee: with a program like inkscape
[02:53] <jewbilee> jrib: sudo apt-get install inkscape    ?
[02:53] <bds> Cooner750: use sudo before you edit the file
[02:53] <Cooner750> I know what sudo is
[02:53] <jrib> jewbilee: yep
[02:53] <jewbilee> jrib: thanks
[02:53] <Smegzor> I did uname -r and it returned this..  2.6.10-5-amd64-generic  What do I have?
[02:53] <jewbilee> jrib: ill give that a try
[02:53] <jrib> Cooner750: k, the answer to your question is still on that page though
[02:53] <ph1x> what relay chat I can use for ubuntu
[02:53] <ph1x> ?:
[02:53] <capiira> ciao
[02:54] <jewbilee> gotto love ubuntu repositories...
[02:54] <Jordan_U> ph1x: xchat-gnome is good
[02:54] <bds> Cooner750: sudo /path/to/your/editor/of/choice filename
[02:54] <Sphynx> Ahh - so anyhow, here's one for you guys.  When I try to shutdown, restart, etc, or switch to a virtual terminal, my system hard locks.  There is nothing to suggest what the issue is in any log.  And here's something goofy.. I've tried to change my menu.lst for grub to add the option of noacpi, but the freaking menu.lst never retains the values.
[02:54] <Davo_Dinkum> Is IceWeasel in the Ubuntu repositories?
[02:54] <Sasa> imb, where would I be able to find those drivers
[02:54] <ph1x> from where i can get Jordan_U can u give me link
[02:54] <Sasa> see the card is dell trumobile, i'm not sure if there are drivers
[02:54] <Sasa> oh wait
[02:54] <sdgr406> Sphynx: is /boot on its own partition? do you have /boot mounted when you save the file?
[02:54] <ph1x> becouse antil now i search
[02:54] <Sasa> dell may have the linux drivers for it
[02:55] <Cooner750> bds: So I add the line "RenderAccel Off" ?
[02:55] <Sasa> how hard is it to install drivers in linux?
[02:55] <Jordan_U> ph1x: It is in the repositories, you can use Add / remove programs to install it
[02:55] <Sasa> is it something a novice like myself can figure out
[02:55] <imbecile> sasa, did u see a wireless nic in networking?
[02:56] <imbecile> sasa,i think u may already have drivers
[02:56] <Jordan_U> Sasa: It depends on the drivers, some ( most ) are incredibly easy, others can be incredibly hard
[02:56] <Sasa> gotcha
[02:56] <Cooner750> bds: ?
[02:56] <Sasa> yes, I do have the wireless interface in my network settings
[02:56] <Sasa> it lists the wireless connection
[02:56] <bds> Cooner750: Yes
[02:56] <Jordan_U> Sasa: It is likely that it will work out of the box
[02:56] <sdgr406> Sphynx: you can also set noacpi at boot time.. when you get the GRUB splash screen, hit 'e' on the entry you want to edit, go to the kernel line and hit 'e' again.. add noacpi to the end and hit 'b' to boot it
[02:56] <Sasa> essid, and it says address:DHCP
[02:57] <bds> Cooner750: Do you know where to place the line?
[02:57] <cristian_28> hi
[02:57] <Sphynx> sdgr406, Nah, /boot is included in the root partition.  Well, I say that..  I'm checking right now.  If that's it, I'm really really gonna feel stupid.
[02:57] <Cooner750> bds: No, where do I place it?
[02:57] <Sasa> it's not working out of the box, but i'm giving it a really hard time
[02:57] <Sasa> it just may give up and start working, you know what I mean
[02:57] <imbecile> Sasa,  try installing knetworkmanager and kwifimanager in synaptic (aka add remove programs) under you "applications" tab
[02:57] <kp1723> Sasa, try the package 'wifi radar'  it solved almost all my probs connecting to wifi
[02:57] <Sphynx> sdgr406, anything else off the top of your head that might cause these locks though?
[02:57] <Sasa> knetwork manager
[02:57] <Sasa> got it
[02:57] <Sasa> 1 sec
[02:58] <bds> Cooner750: It has been a while, let me double check
[02:58] <Sasa> thank you for your support, imb, it's amazing
[02:58] <SmoothOp> whats the minimum ram requiremnts for ubuntu
[02:58] <jewbilee> jrib: I installed gimp-svg but it says I need gimp v. 2.2.11-1ubuntu3.1  how do i get that?
[02:58] <sdgr406> Sphynx: not really sure about the locks though, no.. nothing in the system logs?
[02:58] <kp1723> When I try to exit/hibernate/suspend an x session my laptop locks up.  Any ideas?
[02:58] <Sphynx> sdgr406, it would appear that /boot is indeed mounted and is writable.  So, I don't believe that's the issue.
[02:58] <jrib> jewbilee: did you install using gimp-svg with APT?
[02:58] <Sphynx> sdgr406, nada in the logs =\
[02:59] <sdgr406> Sphynx: ok.. you could try the second way I mentioned... that's only a one time thing though and isn't persistent
[02:59] <Smegzor> argh!  I'm using Ubuntu 5.04 and have 3 upgrades to get to 6.10  *sigh*
[02:59] <jewbilee> jrib: i did sudo apt-get install gimp-svg
[02:59] <jrib> jewbilee: apt-cache policy gimp-svg gimp    on pastebin please
[02:59] <cafuego_> Smegzor: Better yet, the upgrade will probably break.
[02:59] <Sphynx> sdgr406, right-o.  I believe I tried that..  I'll give it another whirl though and see where I get.  I appreciate the effort ;)
[03:00] <bds> Cooner750: I believe you should add it to the Screen section
[03:00] <sdgr406> Sphynx: no prob, I hope that works.. only reason I mentioned the /boot thing is I've done that before myself
[03:00] <h00t> hey guys i moved my sound card from 1 PCI slot into another and now ubuntu / linux cannot find resouce .                                 what can i do
[03:00] <Smegzor> very likely ..  coz I'm driving :)
[03:00] <sdgr406> Sphynx: gentoo used to recommend having /boot on a separate partition and it's not mounted by default for security
[03:00] <jewbilee> what is ubuntu's pastebin site?
[03:00] <bds> Cooner750: wait
[03:00] <jrib> !paste | jewbilee
[03:00] <ubotu> jewbilee: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[03:00] <crimsun> h00t: does Ubuntu detect it at all?
[03:00] <Sphynx> sdgr406, Yeah..  I actually think I've done that before when attempting to copy kernel sources to /boot.  Heh, I should have thought to check.
[03:01] <Sphynx> sdgr406, Yeah, I come from Gentoo ;)
[03:01] <jewbilee> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/794/
[03:01] <bds> Cooner750: I mispoke, add it to the device section
[03:01] <Thug-N-Me> Falstius vlc doesnt like to auto add the subtitles to the movies ;(
[03:01] <SmoothOp> what's ubuntu's minimum ram requirements
[03:01] <Cooner750> bds: Doing that now. Then I restart X, right?
[03:01] <Smegzor> hmm..  i might just reinstall with 6.10.  Thanks for the help.
[03:01] <bds> Cooner750: Where it says Section "Device"
[03:01] <h00t> crimsun, sorry ... i don't know how do i find out
[03:02] <crimsun> h00t: in a Terminal, tell me what the output from ``asoundconf list'' is
[03:02] <Sphynx> SmoothOp, Ubuntu doesn't require RAM.  If you're asking what a linux install's RAM reqs are, however.. that varies on a lot of things.  What kind of DE or WM do you want installed?  Do you want X to run?  is it CLI only?
[03:02] <sdgr406> Sphynx: gentoo's pretty good.. I had been running it since the 1.4 release (before they followed a naming scheme based on year). I got sick of compiling all of my installs though
[03:02] <jrib> jewbilee: erm you have the version it says it needs.  Can you pastebin the exact error too?
[03:02] <jewbilee> sure
[03:02] <bds> Cooner750: When you have added it to the "Device" section of your video card, save the file and restart X
[03:02] <h00t> names of available sound cards ...
[03:02] <h00t> 0
[03:03] <bds> Confuser: You may restart X by using CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE
[03:03] <Sphynx> sdgr406, Actually..  I started at 1.4 as well, I believe..  back in 2002?  I left for a different reason..  new job required SuSE.. and I had to force myself to use RPMs.
[03:03] <crimsun> h00t: it just says '0'?
[03:03] <bds> Confuser: Sorry confuser
[03:03] <jewbilee> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/795/
[03:03] <crimsun> h00t: ``cat /proc/asound/cards'', then  (please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org )
[03:03] <h00t> there's no list/ nothing is availabel
[03:03] <Cooner750> Restarting X.
[03:03] <bds> Cooner750: K
[03:03] <DjViper> does anyonw here know -everything- about broadcom wireless cards and how to make them WORK?
[03:04] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> Hey guys, I am using Ubuntu Server 6.06 Dapper and I am tring to do 'sudo apt-get install proftpd' but when I do it, it says that it could not find the package. Do I haft to edit the sources.list to be able to use apt-get to install this program?
[03:04] <yoshiznit123> DjViper, i don't know everything lol, but you can either use ndiswrapper of fwcutter
[03:04] <SmoothOp> synx: will 128mb and 400mhz processor be fine for the average stupid linux user
[03:04] <yoshiznit123> i have a broadcom btw
[03:04] <h00t> crimsun, ---- no soundcards ----
[03:04] <sdgr406> asdfjkahsdfjkha: what does 'apg-cache search proftpd' say?
[03:04] <kp1723> DjViper, you need an ndus wrapper to get a broadcom working
[03:04] <sdgr406> err, apt-cache
[03:04] <DjViper> yoshiznit123: using ndiswrapper, card is installed, but its not able to scan and connect
[03:04] <h00t> BTW it's SB live
[03:04] <DjViper> kp1723: already installed
[03:04] <Sphynx> SmoothOp, I'd suggest a lightweight Window Manager.  Perhaps use XUbuntu.
[03:04] <imbecile> Sasa,  hows it going? got it figured out?
[03:04] <h00t> crimsun, BTW it's SB live
[03:05] <DjViper> having problems configuring connections etc
[03:05] <yoshiznit123> DjViper, "ndiswrapper -l" says that hardware is there?
[03:05] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> sdgr406, It says nothing
[03:05] <crimsun> h00t: is it listed in ``lspci -v'' ?
[03:05] <kp1723> Dj,Viper, but beyond that I don't know much about them
[03:05] <bds> asdfjkahsdfjkha: It is in universe
[03:05] <crimsun> h00t: (please don't paste here)
[03:05] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> bds, thank you.
[03:05] <SmoothOp> sphy, i am
[03:05] <bds> asdfjkahsdfjkha: np
[03:05] <SmoothOp> the the partioner is taking over 30min to get to 50%
[03:05] <DjViper> yoshiznit123: bcmwl5a         driver installed, hardware present
[03:05] <jrib> jewbilee: k, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list I think you don't have universe security
[03:05] <SmoothOp> bad cd read speed is my guess
[03:05] <pianoboy3333> Can anyone please help me get printing working? I'm on edgy, gnome, and am trying to print to an HP LaserJet 1000 on a Windows XP box on my house network. All of a sudden it stopped working about a week ago. help?'
[03:05] <Cooner750> bds: No go
[03:06] <KD-Misafir592> BURDA  TRKE  B0130LEN  YOKMU
[03:06] <KD-Misafir592> ARKADA015eLAR
[03:06] <Sphynx> SmoothOp, What does the partitioner have to do with RAM>
[03:06] <bds> Cooner750: Gah, that is a bummer
[03:06] <yoshiznit123> DjViper, since ur using ndiswrapper, u have unload bcm43xx first with "sudo rmmod bcm43xx"
[03:06] <KD-Misafir592> YOLUMU  KAYBETT0130M
[03:06] <KD-Misafir592> YAF
[03:06] <Cooner750> bds: X crashes with the error "RenderAccel" is not a valid .... (something) in this section.
[03:06] <yoshiznit123> and then "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"
[03:06] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> bds, Actually I uncommented the lines for universe already. Is there something else I must do?
[03:06] <DjViper> yoshiznit123: hmm, why?
[03:06] <jewbilee> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/796/
[03:06] <Sphynx> Ugg..  is that dude spamming, or am I missing a font?
[03:06] <KD-Misafir592> YOKMU
[03:06] <bds> asdfjkahsdfjkha: sudo apt-get update
[03:06] <KD-Misafir592> TRKE  B0130LEN
[03:06] <KD-Misafir592> HELLO
[03:06] <yoshiznit123> DjViper, the drivers conflict
[03:06] <h00t> crimsun, yes it's listed there
[03:06] <SmoothOp> sphynx, how the hell should i know
[03:06] <DjViper> yoshiznit123: ERROR: Module bcm43xx does not exist in /proc/modules
[03:06] <kitche> Sphynx: it's in UTF-8 and some foreign language also
[03:07] <DjViper> yoshiznit123: I removed it already
[03:07] <SmoothOp> the live cd uses ram to run
[03:07] <Cooner750> So what do I do now?
[03:07] <crimsun> h00t: please pastebin your ``dmesg'', and tell me the url
[03:07] <jrib> jewbilee: yep, uncomment line 29.  Are you comfortable editing that file?
[03:07] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> bds, Oh! Thanks, totally forgot. :P
[03:07] <yoshiznit123> DjViper, ok so u dont have it - what card do you have? and did you do "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"?
[03:07] <jewbilee> jrib: yea, its not a problem
[03:07] <bds> Cooner750: OK, it appears that we placed it in the wrong section
[03:07] <KD-Misafir592> BURDA
[03:07] <KD-Misafir592> KFR  ETSEM  K0130MSEDE  ANLAMAZ  HA
[03:07] <Sphynx> SmoothOp, Hmm..  honestly, I'd maybe check and see if DMA is enabled?
[03:07] <Cooner750> bds: Where else would it go?
[03:07] <yoshiznit123> DjViper, and does iwconfig list ur card?
[03:07] <Music_Shuffle> Seveas, you here?
[03:07] <pianoboy3333> Can anyone please help me get printing working? I'm on edgy, gnome, and am trying to print to an HP LaserJet 1000 on a Windows XP box on my house network. All of a sudden it stopped working about a week ago. help?'
[03:08] <h00t> crimsun, how do i do that ... i'm sorry
[03:08] <KD-Misafir592> HANG0130  LKEYE  A0130T
[03:08] <bds> Cooner750: It should look like this http://beta.phys.uh.edu/~afritz/d800/XF86Config
[03:08] <Thug-N-Me> i get a error trying to play a movie " error opening/initializing the selected video-out (-vo) device "
[03:08] <KD-Misafir592> BU  KANAL
[03:08] <h00t> what's the chanel
[03:08] <DjViper> yoshiznit123: Broadcom 4306 rev2, yes I did modprobe it, yes it shows up in iwconfig
[03:08] <kp1723> When I try to exit/hibernate/suspend an x session my laptop locks up.  Any ideas?
[03:08] <jrib> KD-Misafir592: english?
[03:08] <KD-Misafir592> DEMEK  K0130  B0130R  BURDA  YOKMU
[03:08] <KD-Misafir592> 015e
[03:08] <jewbilee> jrib: do i want to uncomment line 30 as well?
[03:08] <Music_Shuffle> Or confused.
[03:08] <bds> Cooner750: the option that is
[03:08] <KD-Misafir592> TRKELER
[03:08] <Music_Shuffle> jrib, I don't think its a lack of comprehension. :P
[03:08] <Sphynx> SmoothOp, imho, it sounds like either hardware level, or hardware config level issues..
[03:08] <Pelo> I keep getting a  "No package 'gtk+-2.0' found" error when trying to ./configure , any ideas ? ,  it keeps happening with every source package i try to install
[03:08] <yoshiznit123> DjViper, and "sudo iwlist wlan0" or whatever ur card is doesn't list any wireless networks?
[03:08] <Cooner750> bds: But I want it un-commented, right?
[03:08] <jrib> jewbilee: if you want to grab sources for packages, sure.  It won't hurt anything
[03:08] <jewbilee> well
[03:08] <d00by> for some reason when i just dd an update, my pcmcia wirelsss card stopped working, any ideas?
[03:08] <KD-Misafir592> BEN0130MLE  YATAN  VARMI  BURDA
[03:08] <jrib> Music_Shuffle: me neither
[03:09] <KD-Misafir592> LTFEN  BAYAN   OLSUN
[03:09] <bds> Cooner750: You can paste your file here:
[03:09] <jewbilee> jrib: i uncommented line 29, then tried to install gimp-svg and it didnt work again
[03:09] <jewbilee> same error
[03:09] <bds> !paste | Cooner750
[03:09] <ubotu> Cooner750: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[03:09] <jrib> jewbilee: sudo apt-get update
[03:09] <Pelo> KD-Misafir592,   english please
[03:09] <KD-Misafir592> YES  YES  ::::::::))))))))
[03:09] <jrib> !ops
[03:09] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[03:09] <kmishr> :'D
[03:09] <bds> Cooner750: So I can look at it
[03:09] <Music_Shuffle> Lol.
[03:09] <Music_Shuffle> I avoided doing that :P
[03:09] <Cooner750> bds: let me test it this way. Restarting X.
[03:09] <Cooner750> bds: if it fails again, I'll paste it
[03:09] <Hobbsee> jrib: ?
[03:09] <jrib> Hobbsee: see KD-Misafir592
[03:09] <jewbilee> jrib: that worked, thanks!
[03:09] <elkbuntu> jrib,? how far do i have to scroll up?
[03:10] <tony_> hey I'm having some problems with my orinoco card... the card thinks it's connected to my AP but the AP says otherwise
[03:10] <d00by> for some reason when i just dd an update, my pcmcia wirelsss card stopped working, any ideas? its a Netgear 511t
[03:10] <Music_Shuffle> elkbuntu, not far.
[03:10] <DjViper> yoshiznit123: iwlist eth1 scan does not show any scan results
[03:10] <PriceChild> about 20 lines
[03:10] <PriceChild> elkbuntu: ^
[03:10] <DjViper> yoshiznit123: can I msg you?
[03:10] <tony_> iwlist can see the AP just fine.... how can I continue diagnosing this?
[03:10] <yoshiznit123> DjViper, is this edgy?
[03:10] <yoshiznit123> yea
[03:10] <Hobbsee> anyone know what language that was?
[03:10] <jrib> jewbilee: np, any time you edit sources.list manually, you need to apt-get update
[03:10] <Cooner750> bds: it worked.
[03:10] <Pelo> second try : what's that  unpacking command again   " unpack xwvz ... " something
[03:10] <jrib> Hobbsee: none, he's been doing this all weekend
[03:11] <Falstius> tony_: do you get a network connection?
[03:11] <sdgr406> Hobbsee: I'm guessing Turkish.. <KD-Misafir592> TRKELER
[03:11] <tony_> I'm using my wired connection right now
[03:11] <Music_Shuffle> Hobbsee, Turkish
[03:11] <Hobbsee> !tu
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <Music_Shuffle> I thinks.
[03:11] <Hobbsee> what's the channel for turkish?
[03:11] <Sasa> hey guys, I just thought of one extra thing
[03:11] <tony_> if I turn off the wired connection, iwconfig and iwlist says I'm connected, but I can't ping the router, etc
[03:11] <Falstius> tony_: are you sure it is not using someone elses access point? (especially if your AP is named 'linksys')
[03:11] <bimberi> !tr | Hobbsee
[03:11] <ubotu> Hobbsee: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[03:11] <bds> !tr
[03:11] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[03:12] <jrib> Hobbsee: oh my mistake then, got the wrong idea I guess
[03:12] <tony_> no my ap doesn't have the default name
[03:12] <d00by> for some reason when i just dd an update, my pcmcia wirelsss card stopped working, any ideas? its a Netgear 511t
[03:12] <tony_> and the MAC's match up
[03:12] <Sasa> it is a real novice question: as far as linux viruses etc...is it safe to run ubuntu with no protection?
[03:12] <Falstius> tony_: that's good, it is just nice to get the obvious stuff out of the way :).
[03:12] <tony_> and anyways, it won't connect to ANY access point
[03:12] <Naconkantari> Hobbsee: *!*@*!#channel
[03:12] <lupine_85> Sasa: pretty much
[03:12] <tony_> anyways I got an orinoco gold card with Hermes I chipset
[03:12] <lupine_85> there's no viruses in the wild for linux
[03:13] <tony_> and I patched the drivers to give it monitor mode
[03:13] <tony_> and everything worked fine until I rebooted
[03:13] <toulouse> Sasa: i dont think i have any protection on my ubuntu pc
[03:13] <d00by> for some reason when I just updated Ubuntu, my Netgear 511t stopped being recognized by Ubuntu. Is there any way to undo an update or anybody know how to fix the issue?
[03:13] <tony_> and now nm-applet doesn't show anything but the wired  connection
[03:13] <Sphynx> Sasa, the only AV that I run on any of my linux boxes is there to scan mail sent to/from Windows users.
[03:13] <Sasa> I see Phhynx
[03:13] <bds> !clamav | Sasa
[03:13] <ubotu> clamav: antivirus scanner for Unix. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1 (edgy), package size 65 kB, installed size 208 kB
[03:13] <sdgr406> AVG has a virus scan for linux
[03:14] <lupine_85> !amavis
[03:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amavis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:14] <sdgr406> or clamav like bds mentioned
[03:14] <Sasa> I only have a few gmail accounts anyway
[03:14] <lupine_85> bah
[03:14] <Sasa> and they're all scan by Mr. Google
[03:14] <Sasa> he owns us all
[03:14] <tony_> the card works fine with Kismet though
[03:14] <d00by> for some reason when I just updated Ubuntu, my Netgear 511t stopped being recognized by Ubuntu. Is there any way to undo an update or anybody know how to fix the issue?
[03:14] <Sasa> scanned*
[03:14] <Thug-N-Me> mplayer keeps saying this trying to play a movie >>  " error opening/initializing the selected video-out (-vo) device "
[03:14] <Hobbsee>  /ban *!*@88.233.39.248!#ubuntu-tr
[03:14] <tony_> and the little lights are happily blinking, etc
[03:14] <Music_Shuffle> Err, need a space, no?
[03:14] <Sphynx> Meh - night all.  Have fun in tinkering land.
[03:15] <Music_Shuffle> Before channel name?
[03:15] <d00by> for some reason when I just updated Ubuntu, my Netgear 511t stopped being recognized by Ubuntu. Is there any way to undo an update or anybody know how to fix the issue?
[03:15] <Hobbsee>  /ban *!*@88.233.39.248! #ubuntu-tr
[03:15] <Hobbsee> argh
[03:15] <Gizmo_RA2> rofl
[03:15] <tony_> d00by you'll have to find out what chipset the Netgear 511t has
[03:15] <tony_> then you can look up the correct driver from there
[03:15] <Naconkantari> Hobbsee: no  it's like Naconkantari!*@*i!#ubuntu-tr
[03:16] <Naconkantari> but whithout the i ;)
[03:16] <Jj_> hello
[03:16] <d00by> tony_, before it was plug and play with ubuntu, would the update have changed that?
[03:16] <Hobbsee> yay :)
[03:16] <kp1723> When I try to exit/hibernate/suspend an x session my laptop locks up.  Any ideas?
[03:16] <tony_> it could have... wireless is weird in linux
[03:16] <Jj> I removed my checkroot.sh from startup
[03:16] <tony_> did you go from Dapper to Edgy?
[03:16] <Naconkantari> :)
[03:16] <Jj> now gdm wont start unless i run checkroot manyally
[03:17] <fromvega> Hello
[03:17] <Jj> i used update-rc.d -f checkroot.sh remove
[03:17] <fromvega> How does the Ubuntu Alternate install CD work?
[03:17] <Jj> then i used update-rc.d checkroot.sh detaults to add it back but its not working
[03:17] <Sasa> spynx: K3b doesn't support MP3's???
[03:17] <sdgr406> Sasa: yes, it does
[03:18] <mena> What is the Latest version of xchat
[03:18] <bimberi> !alternate | fromvega
[03:18] <ubotu> fromvega: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[03:18] <Jj> what is the correct way to add checkroot.sh to startup?
[03:18] <ctothej> I just created another ext3 partition located at /dev/sda2. How can i make it so that I have full access to it and it automatically mounts every time i boot?
[03:18] <Sasa> sdgr, I attempted to drop a bunch of mp3s and it tells me unable to following files due to unsupported format
[03:18] <bds> Sasa: K3B does not come with MP3 decoding support out of the box. Depending on your version of Ubuntu, you will need different packages.
[03:18] <kp1723> Hhmmmmmmmmmmmmm....
[03:18] <bds> Sasa: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[03:18] <Sasa> bsd, how would I get the
[03:18] <Sasa> haha
[03:18] <Sasa> thankyou
[03:19] <yoshiznit123> ctothej, in /etc/fstab add "auto" to the options
[03:19] <tony_> so does anybody know what the deal might be with a wireless card which says it's associated to an AP but isn't?
[03:19] <kitche> Jj: sudo update-rc.d checkroot.sh add try that
[03:19] <sdgr406> ok.. if I suspect my burning problem is related to a dbus upgrade, how do I downgrade dbus?
[03:19] <yoshiznit123> ctothej, or add the partition first if it isn't there
[03:19] <kp1723> $250 for a year of Ubuntu support is starting to sound better and better
[03:19] <Jj> kitche: 'add' is not an option :-\
[03:19] <tony_> lol kp
[03:19] <burepe> When I got to my server why do I not see the index.htm page instead of the directory? http://www.ekoshi.net/
[03:19] <ctothej> yoshiznit123: its not there yet.
[03:19] <mena> is the ipv2 slowing dowen the conection
[03:20] <Sasa> ok, I need to install the following package:libk3b2-mp3soxtranscodevcdimager
[03:20] <kitche> mena: ipv6 slow s downt he connection if you don'
[03:20] <riotkittie> yoshiznit123, was it you who was asking about the ascii characters earlier?
[03:20] <kitche> t use it grre stupid enter button
[03:20] <Sasa> now, being a linux novice, I can't do much but to point and click
[03:20] <fiveiron> whats some good software for transferring files to and from a PDA?
[03:20] <yoshiznit123> ctothej, add a line like "/dev/sda2       /media/MOUNTPOINT      ext3      user,auto     0     0" to the end
[03:20] <Sasa> I can do a LOT of point-and-clicking:)
[03:20] <yoshiznit123> replacing MOUNTPOINT
[03:20] <yoshiznit123> riotkittie, yea i remember control-shift used to work i think
[03:20] <Sasa> what command should I use as a prefix before libk3b2-mp3soxtranscodevcdimager
[03:20] <mena> kitche, okay how to disable it
[03:20] <kitche> !ipv6|mena
[03:20] <ubotu> mena: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[03:20] <toulouse> fiveiron: ubuntu has a program for that
[03:21] <sdgr406> Sasa: apt-get install <package list>
[03:21] <kp1723> ok, I gotta take a break.  I have been here for 2 hours and not gotten anywhere
[03:21] <mena> kitche. thanks
[03:21] <mena> kitche>, thanks
[03:21] <tony_> sorry kp... I'd help if I could
[03:21] <fiveiron> toulouse: what is it?
[03:21] <riotkittie> ahhh
[03:21] <kp1723> is there a good forum for X issues?
[03:21] <ctothej> yoahixnit123: ok nice. thx. also, do i have to create the folder in /media/HDNAME or will it do that for me?
[03:21] <yoshiznit123> riotkittie, do u know?
[03:21] <yoshiznit123> ctothej, yea make the folder first
[03:21] <toulouse> crap, i cant find it, just a secf
[03:21] <kitche> kp1723: #xorg is good for channel but what kind of X issues?
[03:21] <ctothej> yoshiznit123: k thx
[03:22] <kp1723> When I try to exit/hibernate/suspend an x session my laptop locks up.  Any ideas?
[03:22] <Sasa> that's weird: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[03:22] <Sasa> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[03:22] <Sasa> sale@sale-laptop:~$
[03:22] <wolfgang_> Thug: open mplayer preferences, go to the video tab, highlight the "xv" driver, turn on "Enable double buffering" and "Enable direct rendering", then hit "OK" to save choices
[03:22] <sdgr406> Sasa: sudo apt-get install <package list>
[03:22] <kitche> Sasa: you using sudo?
[03:22] <Sasa> E: is my FAT32
[03:22] <riotkittie> yoshiznit123, yeah, its shift + control + the unicode numbers for the char
[03:22] <tony_> anybody else ever use an orinoco gold card?
[03:22] <kitche> Sasa: E: means error
[03:22] <bds> Sasa: E most likely means error
[03:22] <ph1x> how i can connect to ubunto when i use the same ip to 2 pc?
[03:22] <riotkittie> i was looking for something completely different and saw the answer on a site
[03:22] <bds> kitche: doh :)
[03:23] <yoshiznit123> riotkittie, yea see i think that used to work but it doesnt seem to anymore, does it work for you?
[03:23] <Sasa> Reading package lists... Done
[03:23] <Sasa> Building dependency tree
[03:23] <Sasa> Reading state information... Done
[03:23] <Sasa> E: Couldn't find package transcode
[03:23] <Sasa> sale@sale-laptop:~$
[03:23] <Sasa> I don't know why it's mentioning E:
[03:23] <riotkittie> yoshiznit123,  i havent tried it ;p
[03:23] <Sasa> it's not the root partition
[03:23] <toulouse> fiveiron: i could swear ubuntu had one, but anyways i found kPilot on my system, but that's a k-ubuntu program, it will work in gnome, so just go to synaptic and look up kPilot
[03:23] <kitche> !paste|Sasa
[03:23] <ubotu> Sasa: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[03:23] <bds> Sasa: E most likely means error
[03:23] <fiveiron> toulouse: ah, i have that... i'll try it
[03:23] <toulouse> kk
[03:23] <Sasa> so E: doesn't mean my FAT32 E: partition?
[03:24] <Sasa> oh
[03:24] <Sasa> I guess that would be only on the windows side
[03:24] <bds> !transcode | Sasa
[03:24] <ubotu> transcode: Utility to encode raw video/audio streams. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0.2-0.8ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 2293 kB, installed size 5424 kB
[03:24] <kitche> Sasa: you porbably don't have multiverse enabled
[03:24] <kitche> !mini
[03:24] <ubotu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[03:25] <aNi`> hi is there a way to resize my windows and linux partition without loosing the data on them?
[03:25] <Sasa> kitche: where do i enable the multiverse?
[03:25] <JackBandit69> I am having a problem using any of my package managers, I am running Edgy and would like to either force the depenecys to be resolved or to remove the packages that are causing the issues.here is what I have in the terminal. If anyone can help me, I would be greatly appericated
[03:25] <JackBandit69> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/798/plain/
[03:26] <kitche> Sasa: there is two ways in your /etc/apt/source.lst or in synaptic
[03:26] <riotkittie> ok. is there a noticable difference between edgy and dapper - in terms of features or whatever
[03:26] <aNi`> kitche i think for edgy there is an entry called souce
[03:26] <aNi`> scource
[03:26] <riotkittie> i am thinking about installing edgy over zenwalk but i am not sure.
[03:26] <sdgr406> Sasa: synaptic is the point and click way.. open synaptic and go to Settings -> Repositories
[03:26] <riotkittie> i shoooooooooould just wait until i get a new hd
[03:27] <kitche> aNi`: ? the source repos are for getting source
[03:27] <Thug-N-Me> its DemocracyTV beta for tv cards ?
[03:27] <aNi`> kitche im talking about adding multiverse i think in edgy its done in an entry on menu bar called source
[03:27] <kitche> aNi`: only if you use synaptic
[03:27] <riotkittie> brb. booting to the live disc
[03:28] <aNi`> kitche ok
[03:28] <kitche> aNi`: and I don't know much about synaptic since I tend to use aptitude or apt-get
[03:28] <Sasa> sdgr406: where do I fire off synaptic?
[03:28] <Sasa> I can see it's installed, but I cannot get to it through any path
[03:28] <mena> kitche, i do what it said and i restart the ubuntu and it tells me to type command and if i didnt found any out put it should be disabled(th ipv6).......i telling you that bec i fund output
[03:28] <sdgr406> Sasa: click on System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[03:29] <mena> kitche, did you get my point ir i make you lost
[03:29] <mena> or
[03:29] <kitche> mena: I get it just trying to think lol, so you disabled it though the modprobe.d way and also in firefox?
[03:30] <mena> now i take the frist one for ubuntu
[03:30] <maddash> there's this program I used in my previous breezy setup....it sets the lcd brightness of mylaptop...
[03:30] <maddash> called xbrightness-gui or something
[03:30] <maddash> anyone have a clue?
[03:31] <Sasa> sdgr406: thank you so much
[03:31] <mena> kitche, what is modprobe.d
[03:31] <Sasa> what should I do now to get that package installed
[03:31] <atarinox> hi, can somebody help me with edgy and a slow wireless connection. seems like all my windows pc's are fine, only the ubuntu laptop which is dragging....any commands i should use to start checking out the problem?
[03:32] <sdgr406> Sasa: enable the multiverse repository by going into the repository settings the way I mentioned before.. then either search for transcode in synaptic and install it from there or do sudo apt-get install transcode from the command line
[03:32] <kitche> !ipv6|atarinox try this
[03:32] <ubotu> atarinox try this: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[03:33] <msmollison> hello all... i have an install question
[03:33] <burepe>   !flock
[03:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:34] <msmollison> anyone alive?
[03:34] <Sasa> sdgr406: sorry I lost track of how to enable the multiverse
[03:34] <Sasa> would you mind repeating please?
[03:34] <sdgr406> Sasa: synaptic is the point and click way.. open synaptic and go to Settings -> Repositories
[03:34] <mena> kitche, so ..now its disabled or what
[03:34] <sdgr406> (gotta love message history)
[03:34] <kitche> !ask|msmollison:
[03:34] <ubotu> msmollison:: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:34] <kitche> mena: it should be
[03:34] <cyphase> how do i reset any changes i made via gnome-volume-control?
[03:35] <mena> kitche, okay thanks for your help
[03:35] <msmollison> ok : -]  this is my question. my hard drive is only 1.6 gigs so I can fit ubuntu 6.06. is there a way to install with fewer components to make it fit on the hard drive?
[03:35] <msmollison> *i cannot fit
[03:35] <Music_Shuffle> !minimal | msmollison
[03:35] <ubotu> msmollison: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[03:35] <kitche> msmollison: it'll be hard since base linux needs about 800 megs
[03:36] <JackBandit69> If anyone can help me... I am having a dependecy issue w/ my package managers (apt, aptitude, synpatic, ect...) I have tried to satisfy them but it's not letting me do much cause I have to fix the dependcy issue. If there is a way to remove the problem package or way to force the dependcys to install and like everything that would be really helpful. I have the output from the terminal when I use sudo apt-get -f install here ... http://paste.ubuntu-
[03:36] <JackBandit69> nl.org/798/plain/
[03:36] <msmollison> so the minimal CD image will allow me to not install things like, say, Open Office which I do not need?
[03:36] <Music_Shuffle> Right.
[03:36] <msmollison> thx all : -] 
[03:37] <kitche> msmollison: you'll probably only be able to use a text mode install with that much space
[03:37] <Sasa> sdgr406: thank you so much....ok, I did a search for libk3b2-mp3 sox transcode vcdimager in synaptic and nothing is coming back
[03:38] <nvez> hello everyone.
[03:38] <atarinox> ok i tried disabling ipv6 in swiftfox...but still slow. Seems like my page-loading is much faster in Epiphany as opposed to Firefox...could it be another config setting?
[03:38] <nvez> i am trying to make oidentd work with my ubuntu and xchat, it works, tracing with ethereal shows that it is actually sending and getting a response however im still traced as no identd?
[03:38] <aN1> hi sorri to ask again but i got disconnected while ago, anyway to resize my partitions and steal 10 gig ish from windows for ubuntu  without reinstalling linux and windows?
[03:39] <kitche> atarinox: yes ipv6 module that is in ubuntu
[03:39] <jbarket> I know this is a ridiculous question, but if you were building a dual quad-core xeon machine, how much RAM is enough RAM? I mean, that's 8 cores, so I'm thinking... a lot... but can I get an opinion from someone more worthy here?
[03:39] <aN1> jbarket u need 8 gigs
[03:39] <nvez> jbarket, depends what you want to put on it
[03:39] <nvez> mysql?  fill all the slots and make mysql store its data in the ram, and itll be pretty fast.
[03:39] <kitche> jbarket: most dual quad cores have 16 gigs of ram
[03:39] <nvez> :p
[03:39] <bds> > 640K
[03:40] <jbarket> It's a full time web server. Sorry for the stupidity level here, but I'm an Ubuntu fan that's been drafted as a temporary admin here, heh. I've been looking at 16GB, but I was worried that was either too much or uh too little, haha
[03:40] <jbarket> I'm worried 100% about performance, not cost. Not coming out of my pocket, heh
[03:40] <nvez> jbarket, how much daily hits or per second avg?
[03:41] <wick2o> hello, any ubuntu/iptables pros in the house?
[03:41] <wick2o>  iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -d 10.10.10.5 --dport 2052 -j DNAT --to-destination 10.10.10.9:10001
[03:41] <wick2o> 10.10.10.5 is my linux box
[03:41] <JackBandit69> aN1: use something like partition magic and you can resize the partitions w/out any kinda of destruction to the existing data
[03:41] <Sasa> I did a search for libk3b2-mp3 sox transcode vcdimager in synaptic and nothing is coming back - how can I install this library?
[03:41] <jbarket> nvez: Super little at the moment, but it's for a startup. They just don't want to have to pick up a second machine any time soon
[03:41] <atarinox> kitche: should these instructions for disabling ipv6 work on xubuntu?
[03:41] <wick2o> im tring route all traffic on that boxes port 2052 to another computer/port
[03:41] <aN1> JackBandit69,  partition magic can handle ext3 and swaP?
[03:41] <kitche> atarinox: yes since xubuntu just uses xfce desktop environment instead of gnome
[03:41] <wick2o> am i missing something i need to enable in ubuntu itself?
[03:41] <bds> Sasa: those are many packages you have listed there
[03:41] <sdgr406> Sasa: those are each individual packages.. you enabled multiverse in the repository settings? try 'apt-cache search transcode' and see what that says
[03:42] <madman91> BLUETOOTH PROBLEM:: I have a bluetooth dongle plugged in... hciconfig -a shows it to me... when I run gnome-bluetooth-manager .. i get this error http://madman91.pastebin.ca/309897
[03:42] <kyncani> aN1: parted can
[03:42] <kyncani> aN1: you could use qtparted from knoppix
[03:42] <jbarket> Thanks guys.
[03:42] <aN1> kyncani parted can handle ntfs and ext?
[03:43] <aN1> oh knoppix can't detect my display forsome reason
[03:43] <kyncani> aN1: yep
[03:43] <aN1> ok
[03:43] <aN1> kyncani,  i will look into it
[03:43] <aN1> thx
[03:43] <Sasa> sdgr406:  I enabled the multiverse settings
[03:43] <kyncani> aN1: well, i think you can find gparted from ubuntu install(=live) cd
[03:43] <madman91> does anyone know how i can resolve this error ? http://madman91.pastebin.ca/309897
[03:43] <Falstius> aN1: what about the gparted included in the ubuntu live CD?
[03:44] <cyphase> How do I reset any changes I've made via gnome-volume-control?
[03:44] <aN1> Falstius gparted is in alternative cd too rite?
[03:44] <aN1> Falstius i think i only have dat now
[03:44] <kyncani> aN1: gparted is a tool available on ubuntu's install cd
[03:44] <magic_ninja> how do i get my nvidia driver version
[03:45] <aN1> Kyncani yeah im asking itz on the alternative install cd too rite?
[03:45] <JackBandit69> aN1: from my experance, yes. I have used it before to resize linux and windows partitions... one thing you can do is get and install it on your windows partition, run it and do the resizing there, apply it all and reboot and alll that mess, then enjoy
[03:46] <Sasa> sdgr406: YOU ROCK
[03:46] <Falstius> aN1: I doubt it since gparted is a graphical program.  Parted is probably there though.
[03:46] <aN1> K thx for all ur help  i will try to see gparted and partition magic which one is better
[03:46] <Sasa> ROCK, I'll tell ya
[03:46] <kyncani> magic_ninja: dpkg -l '*nvidia*'
[03:46] <aN1> bbl if i don't ruin my box ^.^V
[03:46] <sdgr406> uhh.. thanks :)
[03:47] <tomsavel> hi all.... brand new here..... can i ask a quick question
[03:47] <Flannel> !ask | tomsavel
[03:47] <ubotu> tomsavel: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:47] <madman91> help help help ... how can i fix this error when starting gnome-bluetooth-manager    http://madman91.pastebin.ca/309897
[03:47] <tomsavel> my clock is acting very odd... I have it trying to synchronize... .but the time is all over the place
[03:47] <tomsavel> something im  missing?
[03:48] <JackBandit69> If anyone can help me... I am having a dependecy issue w/ my package managers (apt, aptitude, synpatic, ect...) I have tried to satisfy them but it's not letting me do much cause I have to fix the dependcy issue. If there is a way to remove the problem package or way to force the dependcys to install and like everything that would be really helpful. I have the output from the terminal when I use sudo apt-get -f install here ... http://paste.ubuntu-
[03:48] <JackBandit69> nl.org/798/plain/
[03:48] <Flannel> tomsavel: What is "all over the place"?  Are you dualbooting with windows?
[03:48] <tomsavel> wow, you are fast... Im running it virtually on the Mac using parallels beta 3
[03:49] <tomsavel> its not critical... but was curious if there was an easy fix
[03:49] <Flannel> tomsavel: with a mac, does the hardware clock get set to UTC? or to your localtime?
[03:49] <JackBandit69> aN1: I havent tried gparted and the other partition tools before, I have only really used fdisk and partition magic, I personaly really like partition magic. But if you have good workings w/ gparted or something else, let me know I would like to try out some other free tools, but am a little scared since I am not a fan of data-loss
[03:49] <Sasa> thanks again for all your support tonight
[03:50] <Sasa> sdgr406: you ROCK
[03:50] <tomsavel> the mac is looking to a server
[03:50] <Sasa> thanks again
[03:50] <tomsavel> is that what u mean?
[03:50] <magic_ninja> i have heard of a lot of probs with 1.0.8776 so do you guys have any ideas on how I can install older version?
[03:50] <Thug-N-Me> how do i auto mount my other hdd and make a link to deskop. i already have one created when i installed ubuntu for one of my hdd ( UUID=1440-C293  /media/hdg1     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1)
[03:51] <kyncani> magic_ninja: methinks downgrading packages is a bad idea
[03:52] <magic_ninja> kyncani: what about upgrading to beta drvrs i have heard good things about theme
[03:52] <jughead> I have a dvd saved as an .iso on my hard drive.  I have it mounted in /media/iso.  How can I play it once it is mounted?
[03:52] <christy> hello???
[03:52] <kyncani> magic_ninja: how about keeping your current version, i've heard you don't have any real problem with them :p
[03:52] <tomsavel> Hi Christy
[03:52] <JackBandit69> I dont like the idea of downgrading packages either, but I cant use any of my package managers and I would really like to get that issue resolved
[03:53] <jughead> hi christy
[03:53] <christy> hello never been here before
[03:54] <yoshiznit123> welcome :-)
[03:54] <sdgr406> jughead: if you have xine installed you can do xine dvd:/media/iso
[03:54] <sdgr406> 'xine dvd:/media/iso', that is
[03:55] <jughead> yeah I have xine installed.. thats the one I am trying to work with
[03:55] <cornell> Howdy... anybody know anything about qmake on ubuntu?
[03:55] <tomsavel> Flannel, I just selected use UTC in the preferences..... and it fixed things
[03:55] <tomsavel> thanks
[03:56] <cornell> I'm trying to install KeePassX, which requires untarring the tar , and then running qmake, make and make install.
[03:56] <cornell> No got qmake
[03:56] <jughead> sdgr406, that worked; is there a way make one of the extra buttons on the xine player interface perform that command?
[03:56] <cornell> :-(
[03:57] <sdgr406> jughead: that I don't know
[03:57] <tomsavel> hi all... is there a keystroke to open a terminal (my mouse freeezes occasionally)
[03:57] <kyncani> !apt-file
[03:57] <ubotu> apt-file is a program that can tell you which package(s) contain(s) a given filename. To install it and generate the database it needs, run "sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update"
[03:58] <magic_ninja> kyncani: i get a choppy framerate and nvidia says they have fixed a few bugs for geforce 3 and 4 cards (i have ti200)
[03:58] <kyncani> !apt-file | cornell
[03:58] <ubotu> cornell: apt-file is a program that can tell you which package(s) contain(s) a given filename. To install it and generate the database it needs, run "sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update"
[03:58] <sdgr406> tomsavel: alt+f2 then "gnome-terminal"?
[03:58] <tomsavel> great thanks sdgr406
[03:59] <sdgr406> no prob
[03:59] <cornell> kyncani, then do ...  apt-file qmake?
[03:59] <xerophyte> is there any program which can make random passwords , in Ubuntu ??
[03:59] <kyncani> cornell: you can use apt-file to know which package provide qmake
[04:00] <Thug-N-Me> whats the command that i have to add in fstab to have my secound hdd mounted at startup ? file system is /dev/hdf1  and mount point is /media/Hard2
[04:00] <CITguy> I'm having trouble installing a TV Tuner, can anybody help me?
[04:00] <riotkittie> oh man, that was painful
[04:00] <JackBandit69> can anyone help me w/ a package dependcy issue/error I am having?
[04:00] <scorp2025> Hi! What shall I do? I need to install the gettext-ruby1.8 package in dapper, unfortunately the version which is in dapper is quite buggy and useless for my purpose.
[04:00] <sdgr406> Thug-N-Me: add 'auto' in the options column
[04:00] <cornell> apt-file search qmake has lots of results, kyncani
[04:00] <JackBandit69> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/798/plain/
[04:00] <sdgr406> Thug-N-Me: oh.. you mean the whole line?
[04:00] <kyncani> magic_ninja: i would either * keep current version * use backports * use feisty (in this order)
[04:00] <Thug-N-Me> sdgr406 yeah .. :)
[04:00] <riotkittie> i spent like 20 mins waiting for edgy to load from the live disc
[04:01] <sdgr406> Thug-N-Me: /dev/hdf1 /media/Hard2 <filesystem> default,auto 0 0
[04:01] <sdgr406> Thug-N-Me: something like that
[04:01] <Thug-N-Me> sdgr406 i know how to manually sudo mount /dev/hdf1 /media/Hard2
[04:01] <Thug-N-Me> sdgr406 thanks
[04:01] <kyncani> cornell: apt-file search bin/qmake
[04:01] <cornell> kyncani: smaller list :-)
[04:01] <kyncani> :)
[04:01] <magic_ninja> kyncani: is feisty pretty unstable
[04:01] <shaq> hows it goin everyone
[04:02] <Flannel> xerophyte: there's a few.  pwgen is one, 'apt-cache search password generate random' for a list of others
[04:02] <kyncani> magic_ninja: yep
[04:02] <magic_ninja> i could easily use backports but i'm afraid of breaking other apps
[04:02] <cornell> Hope this isn't considered flooding....
[04:02] <cornell> libqt4-dev: usr/bin/qmake-qt4
[04:02] <cornell> libqt4-dev: usr/share/qt4/bin/qmake
[04:02] <cornell> qt-x11-free-dbg: usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/qmake-qt3
[04:02] <cornell> qt3-dev-tools: usr/bin/qmake-qt3
[04:02] <cornell> qt3-dev-tools: usr/share/qt3/bin/qmake
[04:02] <xerophyte> thx
[04:02] <riotkittie> grr :p
[04:02] <IntuitiveNipple> shouldn't that be "purrr" ?
[04:03] <cornell> Does this indicate I should apt-get install libqt4-dev?  Or qt3-dev-tools?
[04:03] <Thug-N-Me> sdgr406 why doesnt appear a hdd icon on my desktop after i mount it ?
[04:03] <riotkittie> no. after booting up from the edgy live disc, i am in no mood to purr ;p
[04:03] <kyncani> cornell: i guess one is provided with qt4,the other with qt3
[04:03] <shaq> anyone know of a way to do printer maintainence through gnome? perhaps i'm blind, but i havent seen anything :)
[04:03] <IntuitiveNipple> lol i know the feeling O_O
[04:03] <Thug-N-Me> sdgr406 so it shows there is a hdd and not just a mounted folder and a link to my desktop ...
[04:03] <vejan> why doesn't ubuntu edgy see my floppy drive?
[04:04] <cornell> And I would choose... 4, the most recent?
[04:04] <juano> Thug-N-Me: try adding these options auto,rw,exec,users
[04:04] <Thug-N-Me> vejan doenst like your floppy drive :)
[04:04] <kyncani> cornell: depends whether thiss app you're compiling (i hope it's not already packaged in ubuntu) will use qt3 or qt4
[04:04] <sdgr406> Thug-N-Me: dunno
[04:04] <IntuitiveNipple> I'm doing the exact same thing - can't get installed to a RAID 1+0 so now trying the identical install on  stand-alone disk
[04:04] <vejan> it work in other distributions
[04:04] <cornell> Just trying to run qmake
[04:04] <riotkittie> i can comment a line in fstab out and have it ignored, right?
[04:04] <Thug-N-Me> juano thank you
[04:05] <vejan> its listed in fstab
[04:05] <sdgr406> riotkittie: yep
[04:05] <cornell> Perhaps the KeePassX site will indicate 3 or 4?
[04:05] <IntuitiveNipple> vejan, what happens if you do it manually?
[04:05] <Thug-N-Me> juano after a sudo mount -a i should already see it  right ?
[04:05] <riotkittie> cool. i am hoping doing that will solve an annoyance
[04:05] <Gizmo_RA2> ok new question, anyone know how to get TurboX2 working for xmms2??
[04:05] <ArtVandalae> Hi guys. A quick question, how good is support for SATA on Linux these days?
[04:05] <hifimf> what's it mean when you boot up ubuntu and it stalls on loading file system?
[04:05] <IntuitiveNipple> to solve the annoyances type /quit :p
[04:05] <Thug-N-Me> juano i just want my hdd to appear in computer:/// ....
[04:05] <kyncani> magic_ninja: you could dual boot edgy and feisty, that way you could check if a recent driver would make any difference
[04:06] <vejan> trying to mount /dev/d0
[04:06] <verve> hey guys, is there a special kernel for Sempron CPUs?
[04:06] <vejan> special device /dev/fd0 does not exist
[04:06] <verve> mine identifies as an Athlon, 'cause it's clocked down
[04:06] <cornell> Ah... qt4.... thanks kyncani, we'll see what happens
[04:06] <verve> but it's a Sempron
[04:06] <Thug-N-Me> juano thats how it looks like /dev/hdf1 /media/Hard2  ext3 default,auto,rw,exec,users 0 0
[04:06] <lupine_85> verve: -generic
[04:06] <lupine_85> or compile your own
[04:06] <Gizmo_RA2> ArtVandalae Sata seems to have pretty good support in ubuntu, I have a raid card (not in raid mode) and it works, but the ide drives don't on the card
[04:06] <verve> that's what i mean, when i compile my own
[04:06] <verve> i phrased badly
[04:06] <sdgr406> Thug-N-Me: I made a typo before... should be 'defaults', not 'default'
[04:07] <verve> i meant, is there a Sempron option for processor type in the menuconfig?
[04:07] <IntuitiveNipple> Vejan try /dev/fd/0
[04:07] <lupine_85> k8 ?
[04:07] <verve> or do i just pick Athlon or what..
[04:07] <lupine_85> that's what I do to mine
[04:07] <ArtVandalae> verve: yeah the Sempron processes were originally based on the Athlon XP arch
[04:07] <vejan> can't find /dev/tty1 in /etc/fstab
[04:07] <verve> yeah, what's what mine identifies as, iirc
[04:08] <verve> CPU: AMD Athlon(tm)  (1000.17-MHz 686-class CPU)
[04:08] <Thug-N-Me> sdgr406 ok changed but still doesnt work
[04:08] <verve>   Origin = "AuthenticAMD"  Id = 0x681  Stepping = 1
[04:08] <verve>   Features=0x383fbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CM
[04:08] <verve> OV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE>
[04:08] <verve>   AMD Features=0xc0480800<SYSCALL,MP,MMX+,3DNow+,3DNow>
[04:08] <verve> sorry for spam, heh
[04:08] <verve> :`(
[04:08] <cornell> Well... TTFN, I'll try that libqt and see what happens...   Thanks again kyncani
[04:08] <verve> thank you
[04:08] <kyncani> cornell: np :)
[04:08] <shaq> anyone know of a way to do printer maintainence through gnome?
[04:08] <Thug-N-Me> sdgr406 it did mount the hdd but it doesnt show it on places ..or computer..
[04:09] <juano_> Thug-N-Me: try this line after filesystem: auto,rw,exec,users,dmask=000,fmask=111,nls=utf8  0       0
[04:09] <geoffb> Hi folks. Kubuntu 6.10 on an Intel Macbook, screen resolution is fixed at 1024x768, I need 1280x800, no option to change it in the gui. May I have some pointers on what to do please?
[04:09] <Flannel> !fixres | geoffb
[04:09] <ubotu> geoffb: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:09] <Thug-N-Me> juano_ without defaults ?
[04:10] <geoffb> thanks Flannel... looking....
[04:10] <sdgr406> geoffb: check the "Screen" section in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[04:10] <juano_> thats my line for my other hard disk, i can see it on desktop as user and in computer Thug-N-Me
[04:10] <Thug-N-Me> juano_ doesnt work here :(
[04:11] <juano_> Thug-N-Me: what is your mount point>?
[04:11] <hifimf> anyone know how to keep the system from hanging on :
[04:11] <hifimf>  mounting root file system
[04:11] <hifimf> waiting for root file system?
[04:11] <juano_> Thug-N-Me: /dev/? /media/? and whats the filesystem?
[04:11] <Thug-N-Me> juano_ ext3
[04:11] <Thug-N-Me> juano_ /dev/sda1 /media/Hard1
[04:12] <pigwrangler> should i use amd64 or intel86 for a core 2 duo?
[04:12] <Lethargy_4> Its the same thing Intel uses amd64 extensions
[04:12] <juano_> Thug-N-Me: cat /etc/mtab (use paste bin)
[04:12] <sweet_> pozdrawiam wszystkich dobrych ludzi
[04:12] <vejan> strange i can't get floppy drive to work
[04:13] <BenPA> can someone tell me if it is safe to upgrade to "Edgy"
[04:13] <Thug-N-Me> juano_ no such file ...
[04:13] <pigwrangler> Lethargy_4: so amd64 for 64bit and intel86 for 32?
[04:13] <Thug-N-Me> juano_ this is my fstab http://pastebin.com/853991
[04:13] <kyncani> pigwrangler: amd64
[04:13] <Gizmo_RA2> BenPA I use Dapper I believe it is the latest one
[04:14] <Gizmo_RA2> and it runs just as stable if not more stable than the old version I was running, edgy I think
[04:14] <BenPA> Gizmo I am doing a new install of an older version ... I heard there were issues with
[04:15] <BenPA> dapper and video cards
[04:15] <Gizmo_RA2> ok :s not on my hardware it doesn't, it runs a little slower than I expected, but i'm not running server edition like I used to
[04:15] <kitche> BenPA: from what I seen they got a lot of breakages out of Edgy from updating from dapper
[04:16] <BenPA> ok kitche thanks
[04:16] <Gizmo_RA2> kitche can you confirm which is the latest, I don't have a web browser or I would check
[04:16] <kitche> Gizmo_RA2: Edgy is
[04:16] <imbecile> has anyone used ip-relay at all?
[04:16] <juano_> Thug-N-Me: you have 2 entries, sda1 and hdf1 none of them will show on desktop?
[04:16] <Gizmo_RA2> oh ok :o :'(
[04:17] <kitche> Gizmo_RA2: dapper and edgy are pretty close to each other in software wise really in versions
[04:17] <Thug-N-Me> juano_ none
[04:17] <BenPA> lol
[04:17] <Gizmo_RA2> yeah so I figured
[04:17] <sdgr406> BenPA: the azureus package in edgy is pretty broken, dunno about dapper...
[04:17] <bruenig> it is bad in both
[04:17] <Gizmo_RA2> i'm trying to get TurboX2 to run :'( it really doesn't like my system
[04:17] <woodch> Oh God, how did I get here? I'm not good with internets
[04:17] <Thug-N-Me> juano_  i did sudo mount -a everytime i changed fstab
[04:17] <Gizmo_RA2> lol
[04:18] <crimsun> we just accepted an azureus SRU for edgy.
[04:18] <Jordan_U> sdgr406: Have you tried it with the Sun JVM ?
[04:18] <juano_> Thug-N-Me: ok.. let me check
[04:18] <Thug-N-Me> ok
[04:18] <woodch> Not where I meant to end up, but maybe where I needed to be
[04:18] <bruenig> You might as well just download it from azureus and put it in opt, that is the best way to get it going. And since there is no compiling, you just extract and go, it is not that hard
[04:18] <BenPA> so I am guessing that I can still upgrade to Dapper if I have to
[04:18] <Thug-N-Me> BenPA upgrade to dapper ? what version of ubuntu are you on now ?
[04:18] <sdgr406> Jordan_U:  no, I ended up installing the version from azureus' site.. I was reading a bug entry which says it's broken with both sun's and gcj
[04:18] <vejan> quit
[04:19] <makuseru> breezy?
[04:19] <BenPA> Ubuntu 5.10
[04:19] <malsyned_> Is there anyway, in a script defined for DPkg::Post-Invoke, to find out the operation dpkg was invoked to perform or the packages it performed that operation on?
[04:19] <Gizmo_RA2> ooohhh go the breezy
[04:19] <makuseru> wow, edgy is what? 6.10
[04:19] <Thug-N-Me> makuseru  cannot get any older ;)
[04:19] <makuseru> i dont use breezy
[04:19] <BenPA> I think so
[04:19] <makuseru> i dual book edgy and feisty
[04:19] <Gizmo_RA2> I use breezy "server edition" on my server ;)
[04:19] <makuseru> boot*
[04:20] <magic_ninja> so is fiesty a really stable ver of ubuntu
[04:20] <noodles12> is there a way to install rpm packages in ubuntu?
[04:20] <makuseru> no
[04:20] <noodles12> !rpm
[04:20] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[04:20] <kitche> magic_ninja: to the average user no to an expert probably
[04:20] <makuseru> noodles12: get alien
[04:20] <puff> how is edgy these days?  I upgraded to dapper in early october, an into some problems.
[04:20] <Jordan_U> magic_ninja: Not at all, it is still verry alpha
[04:20] <puff> Then again, it *was* friday the 13th...
[04:20] <makuseru> noodles12: it converts rpm's to deb;s
[04:20] <Gizmo_RA2> have used alien, it's not bad but screws things up occasionally
[04:20] <imbecile> hey guys how dangerous is alien?
[04:20] <noodles12> makuseru: how come the bot made ti seem like " it's quite dangerous" ?
[04:21] <aslddjfn> How do I get a fast list of sources for my ubuntu distro
[04:21] <makuseru> i dont know
[04:21] <aslddjfn> the sources i have are slow slow slow
[04:21] <puff> sources in what sense?
[04:21] <makuseru> ive never had problems
[04:21] <Wimpog> Where can I see list of users, groups, add/remove a user to/from a group?
[04:21] <puff> Wimpog: /etc/passwd, /etc/groups.
[04:21] <noodles12> makuseru: oh if you've used with no problems than i'll do it. thanks
[04:21] <juano_> Thug-N-Me: /dev/sda1		/media/Hard1		ext3	noauto,users	1 1 try that
[04:21] <kyncani> magic_ninja: you could dual boot edgy and feisty
[04:21] <Wimpog> thnx
[04:21] <geoffb> Wimpog: do you need a gui option or command line?
[04:21] <Jordan_U> imbecile: I would never use it personally, I have never found any program without a deb or source ( which can be made into a .deb )
[04:21] <makuseru> noodles12: just sudo apt-get install alien
[04:21] <sdgr406> Wimpog:  System -> Administration -> Users and Groups
[04:22] <magic_ninja> kyncani: yea but not interested in dual boots, thats why I don't have windows
[04:22] <puff> Wimpog: see also "man -k group"
[04:22] <Gizmo_RA2> windows SUCKS
[04:22] <magic_ninja> i am thinking about dual booting just for gaming but then i know that i'm going to end up going back to windows
[04:22] <imbecile> Jordan_U,  I have problems compiling though
[04:22] <kyncani> magic_ninja: you could dual boot edgy and feisty, that way you could check if a recent nvidia driver would make any difference
[04:22] <Thug-N-Me> juano_ nothing
[04:22] <Grindar> the xilinx ise software only comes in a red hat package for linux
[04:22] <makuseru> noodles12: then to convert just do sudo <filename.rmp> -d  without the brackets of course
[04:22] <Gizmo_RA2> I use dualboot just so I can play sa-mp and thats the only thing I have that still requires it
[04:22] <aslddjfn> puff sources in the sense of repos
[04:22] <Jordan_U> imbecile: Have you tried auto apt?
[04:22] <aslddjfn> my repos are slow
[04:22] <Thug-N-Me> juano_ they both are mounted already ... hope it doesnt matter if they are ..
[04:22] <juano_> /dev/sda1		/media/Hard1		ext3	noauto,users	0 0  -- Thug-N-Me
[04:23] <imbecile> Jordan_U,  no is it pretty easy?
[04:23] <Grindar> can you guys help me with ant install problem I had?
[04:23] <BenPA> I tried to use a Kubuntu 5.10 disk to install but it failed so I had these older disk around (Ubuntu 5.10) which I had to use because the new ver of Ubuntu dvd would not load
[04:23] <Grindar> *an
[04:23] <puff> aslddjfn: Ah, you're basically looking for the secret list of high-speed apt servers for ubuntu.
[04:23] <aslddjfn> yes
[04:23] <puff> aslddjfn: how much money do you have?
[04:23] <aslddjfn> they are free?
[04:23] <Jordan_U> imbecile: I haven't used it myself but it supposedly automatically grabs all of the build dependencies, so yes, it should be
[04:23] <sdgr406> Thug-N-Me: have you had a look in System -> Preferences -> Removable Drives and Media?
[04:24] <noodles12> makuseru: should i do "-d --scripts"  or just " -d" to convert to deb?
[04:24] <kitche> Gizmo_RA2: you should have seen my Windows it didn't bite lol
[04:24] <puff> aslddjfn: You're very lucky, we normally don't let outsiders subscribe to this expensive service.
[04:24] <puff> aslddjfn: I'm kidding.
[04:24] <computer13137> Hi
[04:24] <imbecile> Jordan_U,  ill give it a try first
[04:24] <makuseru> just -d
[04:24] <computer13137> I have a question.
[04:24] <kyncani> BenPA: you could use edgy install cd
[04:24] <kp1723> I think I found a solution to problem with x sessions locking up when I exit them!
[04:24] <BenPA> I dont have one kyncani
[04:24] <puff> aslddjfn:  Though I've often wondered about the idea of building a bittorrent-like distributed apt server system.
[04:24] <Thug-N-Me> sdgr406 everything checked
[04:24] <computer13137> When I install phpsysinfo in apt-get, it creates a shortcut type thing in /var/www that lets it be web accessable from another directory... how do I do that with other directories?  Like make /var/www/pub "link" to /data/pub?
[04:25] <kyncani> BenPA: can't youdownload one ?
[04:25] <Gizmo_RA2> kitche unless you start modding all teh running processes, replace explorer with a better program (like cmd ;) or a cygwin remote x11 server) then windows bites
[04:25] <sdgr406> Thug-N-Me: crap! :)
[04:25] <Jordan_U> imbecile: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutoApt
[04:25] <Thug-N-Me> sdgr406 why ?
[04:25] <BenPA> I could be time is short and I need to get the job done
[04:25] <sdgr406> Thug-N-Me: was hoping there was something in there that would help
[04:25] <makuseru> anyone know a channel i can go to for videogame help?
[04:25] <puff> aslddjfn: if you're doing a lot o finstalls you oculd consider setting up your own local repository server.
[04:25] <kitche> Gizmo_RA2: I modded my whole system lol made a twatech episode about it explaining the program I used
[04:25] <noodles12> makuseru: thanks for all your help. it worked.
[04:25] <Gizmo_RA2> cool
[04:25] <imbecile> Jordan_U,  thanks for you help
[04:25] <makuseru> no prob
[04:25] <juano_> Thug-N-Me: this link can be helpful http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131
[04:26] <aslddjfn> puff I am getting speeds of 31kbs is that normal?
[04:26] <Thug-N-Me> juano_ thanks a lot
[04:26] <computer13137> aslddjfn: Try setting all your sources in /etc/apt/sources.list to "archive.ubuntu.com" (take off the US.)
[04:26] <computer13137> The us. leads to a slow server.
[04:26] <computer13137> Trust me
[04:26] <computer13137> [21:24]  computer13137: When I install phpsysinfo in apt-get, it creates a shortcut type thing in /var/www that lets it be web accessable from another directory... how do I do that with other directories?  Like make /var/www/pub "link" to /data/pub?
[04:27] <chascon> what ever happened to linux-bcom4301 sourceforge page ?
[04:27] <sdgr406> computer13137: the ln command?
[04:27] <computer13137> sdgr406: I don't know, is that what it will do?
[04:27] <ArtVandalae> computer13137: use ln -s or (ln -S, I forget, read the man page)
[04:27] <sdgr406> ln -s <target> <link name>
[04:27] <computer13137> Thanks
[04:27] <computer13137> I'll try that
[04:28] <sdgr406> computer13137: so 'ln -s /data/pub/ /var/www/pub'
[04:28] <computer13137> Thanks!
[04:28] <computer13137> :D
[04:28] <computer13137> Worked
[04:28] <computer13137> :)
[04:28] <dublea> Newbie here... trying to see if anyone can help me with linksys wmp54g on ubuntu 6.10.  its being seen as RT2546 and can configure in System>Network.  I can also scan via command line, iwlist scan, and can see my wifi network ssid and that wep/wap is off.  everything is configued corretly but the light doesn't blink and it won't establish an IP via DHCP.
[04:28] <msmollison> i have a problem. when i boot up ubuntu live, on an old computer, i cannot connect to the internet. i do not know if this is a problem with the network card i have in there or something with ubuntu. any way to figure that out? should ubuntu be connecting to the internet automatically?
[04:28] <sdgr406> computer13137: no prob... if you do an ls -l <directory> links will show as the link name followed by a -> and where they point to
[04:29] <wick2o> msmollison: do an ifconfig
[04:29] <computer13137> Thanks everyone.  Once again IRC solves a Linux problem.  :)
[04:29] <computer13137> bbl
[04:29] <wick2o> see ifyour nic shows up
[04:29] <msmollison> ok
[04:29] <magic_ninja> irc is pretty awsome
[04:29] <msmollison> how do i open a command line?
[04:29] <Jordan_U> msmollison: Yes it should, are you trying to connect via ethernet?
[04:29] <msmollison> yes jordan
[04:29] <wick2o> from the pulldown in the upper left
[04:29] <msmollison> k (that is what i guessed : -]  )
[04:29] <kitche> msmollison: depends what networking card is it what slot is it in?
[04:30] <JackBandit69> anyone have any input on which would be better... edgy or openSuse 10.2??
[04:30] <ArtVandalae> JackBandit69: try both, and decide for yourself :D
[04:30] <msmollison> it is a PCI network card, kitche, if that is what you are asking
[04:30] <juano_> JackBandit69: edgy for me :P
[04:31] <dublea> Newbie here... trying to see if anyone can help me with linksys wmp54g on ubuntu 6.10.  its being seen as RT2546 and can configure in System>Network.  I can also scan via command line, iwlist scan, and can see my wifi network ssid and that wep/wap is off.  everything is configued corretly but the light doesn't blink and it won't establish an IP via DHCP.
[04:31] <wick2o> my linux problem is driving me nuts
[04:31] <Jordan_U> JackBandit69: In the completely unbiased opinion of Ubuntu users :)
[04:31] <msmollison> so if the nic shows up, what do i do? and if it does not, what should i do? i cant easily be online on this computer and the other at once.
[04:31] <RdHrd138> Edgy > OpenSuse 10.2 IMO
[04:31] <BenPA> Thanks all for your help
[04:31] <kitche> msmollison: then that should work
[04:31] <sdgr406> msmollison: lspci should show the ethernet card, ifconfig should show interfaces that are up and mii-tool should report the link state
[04:31] <sdgr406> err, link state/duplex mode
[04:32] <noodles12> i am tryign to install a printer. when i go to select printers in the "add printers" gui thing, it will only allow me to install .ppd files. I downloaded an rpm from lexmark that i converted to .deb and installed. how do i add this printer?
[04:32] <Grindar> I have a question. I'm pretty sure I goofed up my edgy install. I partitioned off a chunk of my external drive and installed edgy there. however, I forgot to switch the drive grub installed to. Now, I can't boot without the external drive attached, Grub throws seemingly random errors sometimes even with it attached, and when I try to boot Ubuntu from Grub, it hangs.
[04:32] <Grindar> Any suggestions on how to fix this?
[04:32] <magic_ninja> dublea: so your connecting through a router?
[04:33] <dublea> magic_ninja: yes, via 54g
[04:33] <msmollison> so to those of you helping with my network card... if it is not letting me load pages in firefox... should i assume the card is busted, even though the lights on the back light up when it is plugged in and it shows up in the device manager? (i looked at that already)
[04:33] <sdgr406> Grindar: sounds like you'd need to reinstall GRUB to the internal drive... have a look at the GRUB manual for grub-install
[04:33] <wick2o> msmollison: could be alot of things
[04:33] <blanky> anyone here know what architecture s390x is?
[04:33] <sdgr406> Grindar: would be something like grub-install hd0, dunno the exact syntax though
[04:33] <Gizmo_RA2> msmollison open cmd and type tracert google.co.nz
[04:34] <magic_ninja> dublea: did you configure it yourself, because I was going to ask if you had access to the router to verify that dhcp is actually in use...some network admins or people use static ips on their home address
[04:34] <juano_> msmollison: how is your PC connecting to internet?
[04:34] <Jordan_U> msmollison: I wouldn't go that far but I have never had a PCI ethernet card NOT work with Ubuntu
[04:34] <JackBandit69> cool deal, I was just curious cause I am slightly new at ubuntu. I have used alot of redhat and mandriva 2006 and never could get debian Sarge to install right. But there are a few issues w/ edgy I am not too tickled about
[04:34] <msmollison> i am just plugging my pc directly into my cable modem.
[04:34] <wick2o> any iptable pros in the house, im having problems routing traffic to another computer/port
[04:34] <dublea> magic_ninja: Yea, I'm the network admin, it is up, all the windows based pc's have an IP from the DHCP
[04:34] <msmollison> and i have 2 pcs - this one and the one that wont connect... so i cant talk to you guys while i am messing with the other one : -] 
[04:35] <Gizmo_RA2> Jordan_U I have, it was a gigabit card and got raped in every os but windows :'(
[04:35] <Jordan_U> msmollison: Can you pastebin the output of: sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0
[04:35] <sdgr406> msmollison: run ifconfig like someone else suggested.. also have a look at /etc/network/interfaces to see how the interface is configured (for DHCP or whatever)
[04:35] <juano_> the one that wont connect connects to the other PC?
[04:35] <wick2o>  iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -d 10.10.10.5 --dport 2051 -j DNAT --to-destination 10.10.10.2:10001
[04:35] <magic_ninja> dublea: give me a moment to do some reading of 54g standards, i'm not familiar with wifi networks
[04:35] <Jordan_U> Gizmo_RA2: Ahh, haven't tried many Gigabit ethernet cards myself
[04:35] <wick2o> anyone see anything majorly wrong with that?
[04:35] <msmollison> the one that wont connect connects to the cable modem. but it is not getting a dchp addy for some reason i think.
[04:36] <j_> strange problem, wondering if anyone had any idea's: All my images appear weird, a bit scrambled, like a bad codec was installed or something, the black parts of the image appear messed up, but all the other colours are fine... any idea's?
[04:36] <wick2o> i need to route all traffic on port 2051 to another machine
[04:36] <sdgr406> msmollison: you will likely need to power-cycle your cable modem when you switch from one machine to the other
[04:36] <tony_> hey guys... having some major problems with a wireless card, which started after I took my laptop to my brother in law's house and hooked up to his DSL
[04:36] <Gizmo_RA2> Jordan_U do you know anything about a program called TurboX2??
[04:36] <tony_> does a pppoe connection screw with your wireless?
[04:36] <msmollison> power cycle as in turn on and off? i did try that actually.
[04:36] <sdgr406> msmollison: yes.. ok
[04:36] <cge> Does anyone know if there is a way to get sound juicer to convert the encoding of the track data it downloads?
[04:36] <msmollison> well, turn off, wait a wihle, turn on.
[04:36] <wick2o> msmollison: you should really look into getting a router or a switch and enabled dhcp on your modem
[04:36] <Jordan_U> Gizmo_RA2: No, sorry
[04:37] <Grindar> Can I do it from within windows? As I can only get to ubuntu through a livecd.
[04:37] <msmollison> yeah, i have a router, its just a bitch to move it from elsewhere in the house right now. a huge bitch.
[04:37] <Gizmo_RA2> oh ok
[04:37] <abdul> hello
[04:37] <Jordan_U> msmollison: You should probably try unplugging it for good measure, sometimes "turning off" doesn't really turn it off
[04:37] <abdul> how's everybody doing?
[04:38] <wick2o> abdul: getting ready to give up on my iptables crap
[04:38] <sdgr406> msmollison: what does ifconfig | grep "inet addr" say?
[04:38] <Thug-N-Me> juano_ need help i just made "" mke2fs -L data /dev/hda3 "" anywhy i can have it back ?
[04:38] <Grindar> or possibly unhook the external, boot from the cd, and then reinstall grub?
[04:38] <Gizmo_RA2> yeah Jordan_U is right the motherboard ram and a few other things stay live
[04:38] <Grindar> Then install grub on the external?
[04:38] <tony_> how do I uninstall the pppoe connection?
[04:38] <abdul> wut are u talking about
[04:38] <geoffb> having trouble following instructions to install 855resolution/915resolution to fix intel graphics buggy bios. Am getting "no package found" type errors from apt-get.... do I need a different repo or something?
[04:38] <wick2o> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -d 10.10.10.5 --dport 2051 -j DNAT --to-destination 10.10.10.2:10001
[04:38] <juano_> Thug-N-Me: what sorry?
[04:38] <wick2o> tring to get all my port 2051 traffic on my linux box to goto another machine/port
[04:38] <dublea> magic_ninja: From the router,  	Router Name: WRT54GL;   Login Type: Automatic Configuration - DHCP
[04:38] <msmollison> thanks guys for all your help, i am going to go mess aroudn with it some.
[04:39] <mena> friends is there any messenager better than gaim for gnome
[04:39] <magic_ninja> no
[04:39] <magic_ninja> gaim is the shiat
[04:39] <Thug-N-Me> juano_ i just typed sudo mke2fs -L Hard1 /dev/sda1 and seen like i lose everything from that hdd :(( anyway to get it back ?
[04:39] <wick2o> i prefer pork
[04:39] <dublea> SSID:   	 qin   	   	
[04:39] <dublea>   	  	  	DHCP Server:  	 Enabled 	  	
[04:39] <dublea>   	  	  	Channel:  	 6  	  	
[04:39] <dublea>   	  	  	Encryption Function:  	 Disabled
[04:39] <geoffb> mena: aMSN is an excellent MSN clone, but it only does MSN
[04:39] <Grindar> well, I'm off to try it. Thanks guys.
[04:39] <wick2o> at least if all you need is aim
[04:40] <dublea> wow... it pasted the enters..
[04:40] <Gizmo_RA2> aMSN ROCKS
[04:40] <geoffb> Gizmo_RA2: yes yes, it does! :-) I like aMSN
[04:40] <mena> geoffb, okay ........ok friends
[04:40] <kyncani> Thug-N-Me: once you've formatted your partition, your data is lost.
[04:40] <Gizmo_RA2> it has a plugin for it called invisibility that rocks too
[04:40] <magic_ninja> Thug-N-Me: there is a ton of data recovery utilities if your willing to find one (possibly buy it, but i'm sure there are some open source ones out there) and spend the time copying what you need to another part/hdd
[04:40] <juano_> Thug-N-Me: you labeled the device?
[04:40] <magic_ninja> kyncani: you are wrong sir
[04:40] <geoffb> mena: ?
[04:41] <tony_> does anybody know how to uninstall a pppoe connection?
[04:41] <bepogi> Hello.  I have a minor but annoying problem.  Everything I open add/remove... it tells me applications at out of date.  I update/reload... close it and the same box pops up again.  I did both sudo apt-get update and sudo aptitude update in terminal and it did not resolve.  Any ideas?
[04:41] <Thug-N-Me> juano_ without to know what im doing ;(
[04:41] <magic_ninja> kyncani: unless you've done a low level format (aka write 000000's to the hdd) its possible to recover data at least partially
[04:41] <mena> geoffb, but the prblem with gaim it dosent support offline mesages for msn
[04:41] <Thug-N-Me> magic_ninja like ... ?
[04:41] <kyncani> magic_ninja: it's the short version, for newbs
[04:41] <geoffb> mena: does MSN support offline messages at all?
[04:41] <bepogi> everytime*
[04:41] <Gizmo_RA2> bepogi open terminal and type sudo apt-get update
[04:41] <magic_ninja> Thug-N-Me: there are tons for fat32 just not sure about open-source
[04:41] <Gizmo_RA2> then type sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:41] <mena> geoffb, msn now support it
[04:41] <geoffb> mena: if anything supports it, it will be aMSN... it's a pretty good copy of MSN imho....
[04:41] <magic_ninja> kyncani: the utils are usually pretty simple for that sorta thing
[04:41] <bepogi> ah, upgrade.  okay.  i will try it.  :)
[04:41] <geoffb> mena: oh cool, I didn't know that!
[04:42] <mena> geoffb, okay and for yahoo
[04:42] <juano_> Thug-N-Me: you formatted?
[04:42] <mena> geoffb, except gaim
[04:42] <geoffb> mena: wait, I'm pretty sure I tried offline messages with aMSN in the last day or so, and I don't think they worked. Got "cannot be delivered" message.
[04:42] <Thug-N-Me> juano_ dont know man i just typed sudo mke2fs -L Hard1 /dev/sda1 without to know whats happend :(
[04:42] <Gizmo_RA2> geoffb you are correct
[04:42] <bepogi> Gizmo_RA2: Hrm.  Add/Remove still saying list of Applications out of date when opening it.
[04:42] <mena> geoffb, in xp messnger the newest one support it
[04:42] <Thug-N-Me> juano_ i had 120 GB of music in it ;(
[04:42] <juano_> Thug-N-Me: why you do that?
[04:43] <kyncani> magic_ninja: simple enough for someone who does not keep backup and format rather lightly ??
[04:43] <magic_ninja> dublea: i don't know much about wireless networks, but if for some reason your not getting authenticated via dhch try ifconfig <interface> via terminal and see if you can't play with something to make it work
[04:43] <geoffb> mena: for gnome, I'm not much help sorry. I'm using kopete in KDE (mind you, I think with a bit of tweaking) (or maybe with no tweaking at all!) you can run KDE apps on gnome in ubuntu, 'cos all the libs are there and/or can be added
[04:43] <mena> geoffb, i was using msn live for xp
[04:43] <Gizmo_RA2> bopogi ok thats wierd, can't really help you then, is your clock set to the right date and time????
[04:43] <kyncani> magic_ninja: :))
[04:43] <bepogi> Yep.
[04:43] <magic_ninja> kyncani: actually yes i was helping someone do it earlier to recover a very important business document they were working on
[04:43] <mena> geoffb, okay i will see
[04:43] <mena> geoffb, thanks
[04:43] <geoffb> mena: with OSS, sometimes patience is necessary for new features... a couple of months and someone will implement offline messaging on the clone clients!
[04:43] <tony_> does anybody have any eperience in linux networking?
[04:43] <magic_ninja> kyncani: he had the money, bought the prog online (it was like 100 bucks) and used it and it worked
[04:43] <geoffb> mena: you're welcome :-)
[04:43] <Gizmo_RA2> bepogi ok i'm lost :s anyone else able to answer his question??
[04:44] <mena> ^_^
[04:44] <geoffb> tony_: ask away, if we can help, we'll help!
[04:44] <tony_> I need to know how to uninstall a pppoe connection
[04:44] <geoffb> Gizmo_RA2: I missed bepogi's question - what was it?
[04:44] <tony_> that's not the actual problem but I think it'll help
[04:44] <juano_> Thug-N-Me: what did you do exactly?
[04:44] <geoffb> tony_: uh, sorry, I don't know that one off the top of my head... maybe someone else can help, else I'll start googling!
[04:44] <Thug-N-Me> juano_ sudo mke2fs -L Hard1 /dev/sda1
[04:45] <bepogi> geoffb: Add/Remove tool tells my applications are out of date every single time on loading.  Even after reloading/update... terminal apt-get update and upgrade.
[04:45] <kp1723> What is the console command to terminate an x server/session?
[04:45] <Gizmo_RA2> geoffb it was about why bepogi's add remove packages thing kept saying the packages were out of date
[04:45] <tony_> don't bother geoff... I wouldn't be here if I didn't already do the search LOL
[04:45] <juano_> Thug-N-Me: and what happened? can you access that hard disk now?
[04:45] <tony_> anyways the actual problem is that my orinoco card can see all the networks around here, but won't associate
[04:45] <Gizmo_RA2> geoffb bepogi tried apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[04:45] <Thug-N-Me> juano_ i can yeah but its empty :(((
[04:45] <keithhhhh> what is compiz?
[04:45] <geoffb> bepogi: Gizmo_RA2: does "sudo apt-get up..... oh, gotcha...
[04:45] <geoffb> Gizmo_RA2: didn't help?
[04:45] <sdgr406> kp1723: /etc/init.d/gdm stop?
[04:46] <bepogi> No help.
[04:46] <geoffb> :-/
[04:46] <juano_> Thug-N-Me: try remounting the HDD, sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/Hard1
[04:46] <kyncani> magic_ninja: last time i checked (a long time ago), these kind of gpl'ed tools were not real newbs friendly
[04:46] <Gizmo_RA2> geoffb no apparently not
[04:46] <geoffb> bepogi: what OS/version?
[04:46] <bepogi> I know I can use Synaptic and just avoid Add/Remove.  It is a minor problem, but it is nagging. :)
[04:46] <bepogi> Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy
[04:46] <Gizmo_RA2> ah
[04:46] <geoffb> bepogi: that was gonna be my next advice... I like synaptic more betterer anyway
[04:47] <Thug-N-Me> juano_ i did .. its empty ;(
[04:47] <Gizmo_RA2> bepogi you could try apptitude that allways turns up roses
[04:47] <Gizmo_RA2> or grenades
[04:47] <juano_> Thug-N-Me: mkdir /media/myHard1
[04:47] <tony_> here's what I've tried so far http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=333668
[04:47] <bepogi> Yeah, Synaptic happens to work fine.  This problem came about after I installed KDE via aptitude.  (then removed it)
[04:47] <juano_> Thug-N-Me: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/myHard1
[04:47] <Pie-rat1> I installed kubuntu-desktop, and it changed the ubuntu logo to kubuntu when i start the machine up. how do i change it back?
[04:48] <Thug-N-Me> juano_ empty
[04:48] <geoffb> ohhh... bepogi, sorry, that one's out of my league... I'm good at *nix, not so good at GUI stuff
[04:48] <imbecile> to get to my desktop in terminal i type "cd Desktop" correct?
[04:48] <Gizmo_RA2> bepogi hence I said apptitude can turn up grenades sometimes :s
[04:48] <sdgr406> imbecile: cd ~/Desktop
[04:48] <imbecile> sdgr406,  thanks
[04:48] <geoffb> imbecile: "cd ~/Desktop"
[04:48] <geoffb> snap!
[04:48] <bepogi> Another thing I tried is sudo aptitude remove gnome-app-install
[04:48] <bepogi> To remove the tool altogether (then reinstall it)
[04:48] <imbecile> geoffb,  thanks too
[04:49] <bepogi> But I would have to remove ubuntu-desktop and I don't want to do that.
[04:49] <geoffb> u welcome imbecile
[04:49] <Gizmo_RA2> bepogi sometimes "other" dependancies get removed by apptitude, it's normally ok though
[04:49] <tony_> so yeah if iwconfig eth1 already says that my card is associated, but I can't get a DHCP connection, what do I check next?
[04:49] <sdgr406> imbecile: the ~ is a shortcut for the currently logged in user's home directory
[04:49] <sdgr406> imbecile: so it doesn't matter where you are in the file system, you do cd ~/Desktop
[04:49] <geoffb> tony_: do you know that there is working DHCP available via the wireless?
[04:49] <bepogi> An interesting thing though is in the info that came up, it said ubuntu-desktop was broken?
[04:49] <tony_> yes
[04:49] <imbecile> sdgr406,  ahhh cool
[04:50] <tony_> it worked just fine last night, and then I patched the drivers for monitor mode and ran kismet, then rebooted
[04:50] <tony_> worked fine until I rebooted
[04:50] <Gizmo_RA2> ok well you could try reinstalling again bepogi that might be the only way
[04:50] <geoffb> omg!
[04:50] <kd7swh>  is there a site to help me do things with dbus and beryl?
[04:50] <magic_ninja> Thug-N-Me: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec
[04:50] <magic_ninja> try that
[04:50] <tony_> still works fine with kismet and iwlist can see all the APs around here
[04:50] <magic_ninja> if that doesn't work PM me and we will try to get ya fixed up :-)
[04:50] <geoffb> tony_: are more than one app trying to use the card at the same time?
[04:50] <tony_> but nm-applet doesn't show the wireless connection
[04:50] <sp33dw> try irongeek.com
[04:50] <magic_ninja> i've had to do this alot so data recovery is one of my specialties
[04:50] <juano_> Thug-N-Me: cat /etc/fstab
[04:50] <tony_> geoff: I don't think so
[04:51] <juano_> Thug-N-Me: cat /etc/mtab also
[04:51] <geoffb> it won't play nice on the network if it's trying to scan for others at the same time
[04:51] <tony_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=333668 here's what I've tried so far
[04:51] <bepogi> Can I reinstall Ubuntu again from a cd on top of this?  Resetting everything?  Or do I have to delete partition and so on?
[04:51] <tony_> how would I check if some hidden app is attempting to use my card?
[04:51] <kiwinz_sucks> bepogi, installing against wipes the partition
[04:51] <Gizmo_RA2> just reinstall the display manager
[04:51] <Thug-N-Me> magic_ninja thanks
[04:52] <kd7swh> can one of you say my nick so i can test the dbus plugin?
[04:52] <geoffb> tony_: I'm bad at the gui, so no specific instructions, but have you fiddled in the network if setup and made sure that it's been told to use DHCP, etc?
[04:52] <bepogi> i did sudo aptitude install ubuntu and it says I am all up to date.  heh
[04:52] <Gizmo_RA2> hey kiwinz you don't like sheep???
[04:52] <bepogi> ubuntu-desktop, i mean
[04:52] <kiwinz_sucks> kd7swh
[04:52] <kiwinz_sucks> ...huh?  what's wrong with sheep?
[04:52] <magic_ninja> Thug-N-Me: click the TestDisk link
[04:52] <Gizmo_RA2> your name ;)
[04:52] <magic_ninja> Thug-N-Me: that should help ya
[04:52] <kd7swh> lol
[04:52] <tony_> geoffb: I've ran iwpriv to try to reset the card, iwlist and iwconfig to verify that it's trying to associate with the AP
[04:52] <kd7swh> thanks
[04:52] <kiwinz_sucks> i more hate kiwinz
[04:53] <kiwinz_sucks> fascist moderator on the ubuntu forums
[04:53] <tony_> and in the network manager program I have told it to use DHCP
[04:53] <Gizmo_RA2> ah ok
[04:53] <tony_> not real sure what else to do since I'm a relative *nix n00b
[04:53] <geoffb> tony_: on a command line "ps ax" for a start, and scan through the list to see if you recognise anything that might be wireless related
[04:53] <geoffb> maybe "ps ax | more" if you don't wanna scroll
[04:53] <cge> I have some text in an unknown encoding, but would know if it were correctly rendered. Is there some way for me to create a list of the output under each encoding?
[04:53] <imbecile> sp33dw,  irongeek is awesome.. he's a really nice guy too
[04:54] <geoffb> what's the file I edit to change the list of repos I use please?
[04:54] <Thug-N-Me> magic_ninja firefox wont open that html file
[04:54] <Thug-N-Me> juano_ http://pastebin.com/854010
[04:54] <tony_> ok geoffb: there's something in there about nm-applet running with arguments that I don't know what do
[04:54] <tony_> -sm-disable
[04:54] <geoffb> tony_: sorry, I just came out of a massive lag.... scrolling back...
[04:56] <magic_ninja> sure it will
[04:56] <Thug-N-Me> magic_ninja so testdisk-6.5.linuxstatic.tar.bz2 its what i need right ?
[04:56] <magic_ninja> whats your error
[04:56] <magic_ninja> prob
[04:56] <magic_ninja> brb
[04:56] <HentaiSushi> ohmy
[04:56] <juano_> Thug-N-Me: did you try unmounting first and then mounting as root?
[04:56] <HentaiSushi> linux wont go away :(
[04:57] <tony_> ok geoffb: not sure what I'm looking for, but I didn't see anything weird in the process list
[04:58] <computer13137> Hey.
[04:58] <computer13137> I have a Ubuntu question.
[04:58] <wonderl00t> Question: If i have a ".cpp" file and a "Makefile" for it, what command would i use to run that?
[04:58] <Soccrmastr> really
[04:58] <kyncani> magic_ninja, Thug-N-Me: methinks testdisk is already packaged for ubuntu
[04:58] <Soccrmastr> wrong channel sorry
[04:58] <tony_> geoffb: how would I check if the wireless is really using dhcp or not?
[04:58] <sdgr406> tony_:  /etc/network/interfaces?
[04:58] <tony_> k
[04:58] <computer13137> In FreeBSD, you can edit the message that it gives you when you login to SSH.  It's a file somewhere.  I would like to edit the Ubuntu SSH welcome message.  Does a file exist that holds this, and where?
[04:58] <tony_> hang on
[04:59] <Thug-N-Me> kyncani will it work ? to get my data back ?
[04:59] <sdgr406> computer13137: it might grab it from /etc/issue
[04:59] <kyncani> Thug-N-Me: don't know, never used it
[04:59] <computer13137> sdgr406: No.
[04:59] <gdb> computer13137: /etc/motd
[04:59] <computer13137> gdb: Thanks!
[04:59] <computer13137> :()
[04:59] <computer13137> * :)
[04:59] <gdb> computer13137: sure thing!
[04:59] <computer13137> That's it.
[04:59] <magic_ninja> !testdisk
[04:59] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.4.1-1 (edgy), package size 459 kB, installed size 1232 kB
[04:59] <sdgr406> neato
[05:00] <tony_> ok yeah it's using DHCP
[05:00] <tony_> or at least it's sposda be using DHCP
[05:01] <tony_> I also removed all the pppoe stuff in the interfaces file
[05:01] <tony_> which should keep it from booting... hopefully
[05:01] <JackBandit69> kyncani: sorry, missed this before. You can recover data even after a low-level format. Just overwriting all 0000's or 1111's dont really mean much, like deleting the dirtrees and the data being there but just unfound. Thats why we have tools like sdelete and others to destroy and overwrite sooo many times the data to be unrecoverable! NSA uses (least to last reading a deletion method of 35 times as DoD standard) but there are great forensic tools
[05:01] <JackBandit69> you can get that will recover almost anything less you overwrite it over and over and over and write w/ random charctors also in addition
[05:01] <kp1723> OK, so ther eis twist to my saga
[05:02] <Thug-N-Me> magic_ninja fam with testdisk ?
[05:02] <magic_ninja> not at all, just seems it can get the JOB done
[05:02] <Gizmo_RA2> just don't expect recovered excecutables to ever run again
[05:02] <tony_> I'm gonna try rebooting now that the pppoe stuff is gone and see if it helps
[05:02] <Gizmo_RA2> bye toni
[05:02] <Gizmo_RA2> *y
[05:03] <tony_> I'll be back LOL
[05:03] <kp1723> When I do a 'shutdown -r now'  from a virtual terminal with an x server/session running, I get a kernel panic.
[05:03] <Gizmo_RA2> I know
[05:03] <kp1723> Isn't that cool?
[05:03] <Gizmo_RA2> at least it shutsdown ;)
[05:03] <Thug-N-Me> kyncani weird testdisk doesnt show me the hdd i want to recover ;(
[05:03] <kp1723> This Ubuntu shit roscks
[05:03] <Gizmo_RA2> Thug-N-Me try hirens boot cd
[05:04] <kp1723> But I think I know how to fix it...
[05:04] <CarlFK> how do I find the package that gives me the pymssql python module?
[05:04] <chronic1> anyone here know if the default servers for apt-get are sending slow today?
[05:04] <JackBandit69> Gizmo_RA2: oh yeah, I dont think execs will ever run after all that, but important things can be salvaged and also enough stuff to get tossed away for along time by the feds (like images, ect...) can be salvaged too
[05:04] <kp1723> Xandros Linux has a 30 day free trial :P
[05:04] <kitche> kp1723: umm they also have  a free one
[05:04] <Gizmo_RA2> yeah thats true XD ROFL
[05:04] <kp1723> And if all else fails I can always reinstall CP
[05:05] <kp1723> XP*
[05:05] <Gizmo_RA2> JackBandit69 know any good active realtime encryption tools???
[05:05] <magic_ninja> pgp
[05:05] <Gizmo_RA2> that will slow them down, so it takes more than 23 days to un encrypt??? ;)
[05:05] <kp1723> So, can anyone tell how to troubleshoot a kerne; panic from exiting Xorg?
[05:06] <JackBandit69> Gizmo_Ra2: there are a few that are pretty good... I used to have the source for PGP, and PGP corprate here, I can see if I can find them... I heard gpg is pretty decent, but really foolded much w/ it
[05:07] <josh0403> Hi I messed up my xorg.conf and I was wondering if there was a way to modify it while in live cd mode
[05:07] <Gizmo_RA2> kp1723 no idea man, what is the kernal panic it gives you...pm me it if you can so we don't clutter the chat window any further :P
[05:07] <sdgr406> kp1723: see if there's anything interesting in /var/log/messages and/or /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[05:07] <tony_> lol no effect whatsoever
[05:07] <tony_> :-(
[05:08] <josh0403> Or would I have to completely reinstall ubuntu?
[05:08] <Gizmo_RA2> JackBandit69 that would be awesome I just need to make it so nothing is recoverable within 23 days ;) I have 2TB of "stuff" that needs heavy encryption, just so I don't have to worry about it anymore ;)
[05:08] <sdgr406> josh0403: instead of using a livecd you could boot into single user mode and modify the file from the console
[05:09] <josh0403> sdgr406: I tried but it crashes.
[05:09] <sdgr406> josh0403: crashes how?
[05:09] <tony_> I take that back it did have an effect
[05:09] <kp1723> sdgr406:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=333569
[05:09] <tony_> the wireless now has an IP!!!
[05:10] <tony_> hang on let me check if it works without the wired
[05:10] <wheels3572> How do I point VMWare workstation directly to my CD
[05:10] <chehgarg> i need help gettinga  tv tuner card working it uses a saa1734 chipset... can anybody help?
[05:10] <elyon225> Anyone have any insight into why my Flash 7 player no longer has sound?
[05:10] <tony_> so uhh I'm now wireless only
[05:10] <kp1723> sdgr406:  BTW, my laptop is runnign memtest just to be on the safeside.  I am at my desktop now.
[05:10] <tony_> woot
[05:10] <JackBandit69> Gizmo_RA2: I dont think I wanna know what the situation is, but is any of this law enforcement related? no, I am not the po-lice either
[05:11] <tony_> in case anyone else comes in with the same problem... PPPoE + orinoco = BAD!!!
[05:11] <josh0403> sdgr406: well, I boot up and before I can login, it gives me an error that says something along the lines of failed to start xserver(your graphical interface. then it freezes up .
[05:11] <tony_> nm-applet is still pretty screwy though
[05:11] <tony_> it can't see my wireless stuff
[05:11] <sdgr406> josh0403: how are you booting to single user mode? it sounds like it's still trying to boot into X
[05:11] <josh0403> and when I try to boot into recovery mode, my kebord wont work
[05:12] <Cybodog> Howdy, I have a few STUPID questions:  If I have an amn64 what kernel (desktop) do I want?
[05:12] <Cybodog> the kernel image naming is confusing me.
[05:12] <juano_> Thug-N-Me: any luck??
[05:12] <magic_ninja> the one that says 64bit
[05:12] <Cybodog> magic_ninja, no, I want x32
[05:12] <josh0403> sdgr406: well actually I don't know what single user mode is. lol
[05:12] <Thug-N-Me> juano_ nope testdisk doesnt search for hdd it can only see one of them :(
[05:12] <sdgr406> josh0403: hehe, ok
[05:13] <Cybodog> but do I want generic?  -386 ?
[05:13] <magic_ninja> man, i got a cd stuck in the drive and i can't press th ebutton to eject or use terminal to unmount, it just hangs
[05:13] <Thug-N-Me> juano_ which is not the empty one :(
[05:13] <josh0403> sdgr406: but when I fo into recovery mode, my keyboard doesn't work
[05:13] <wheels3572> Can someone help me with my VMWare Issue.  IT's Odd.  Linux Recognizes my Windows CD and autoboots for me but VMWare Worksation will not recognize the CD.  Can anyone help me with this problem
[05:13] <Cybodog> magic_ninja, did you try terminal eject?
[05:13] <magic_ninja> can you restart magicdev
[05:13] <magic_ninja> Cybodog: yes sir
[05:13] <sdgr406> josh0403: when you boot the machine and you get the GRUB splash (the screen with the different kernels listed), highlight the kernel you want to boot and hit 'e' then go to the kernel line and hit 'e' again... add 'init=/bin/sh' to the end of the line and hit 'b' to boot that entry
[05:14] <Cybodog> magic_ninja, thought it was worth asking :)
[05:14] <sdgr406> josh0403: it'll start to boot and then give you just a #
[05:14] <juano_> Thug-N-Me: maybe this can help, im gonna keep lookin http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=102886
[05:14] <Balsamic_Chicken> what's the equivalent of krdc remote desktop connection in ubuntu?
[05:14] <Balsamic_Chicken> what's the equivalent of krdc remote desktop connection in ubuntu?
[05:14] <Balsamic_Chicken> oops didn't mean to type that twice
[05:14] <Cybodog> magic_ninja, got a paper clip?
[05:14] <Balsamic_Chicken> i mean't paste
[05:14] <magic_ninja> mabye
[05:14] <magic_ninja> whats up?
[05:14] <kp1723> AAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:14] <josh0403> then I can edit xorg sdgr406 ?
[05:14] <sdgr406> josh0403: yeah, should be able to
[05:14] <Gizmo_RA2> plonk plonk
[05:14] <magic_ninja> !krdc | Balsamic_Chicken
[05:14] <ubotu> krdc: Remote Desktop Connection for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 498 kB, installed size 968 kB
[05:14] <kp1723> I am going to go get drunk now
[05:14] <josh0403> sweet thanks
[05:14] <Cybodog> there should be a hole you can mechanicaly eject the cd with a paper clip magic_ninja
[05:15] <magic_ninja> ahh got ya
[05:15] <sdgr406> josh0403: if that doesn't work or you seem to have trouble, just reboot and it'll boot like normal
[05:15] <magic_ninja> like the iMacs at my high school lol
[05:15] <kp1723> After 2 day s of this and getting no where I am pissed enough to get pissed
[05:15] <Balsamic_Chicken> magic_ninja um i need the krdc equivalent in ubuntu, is there such a program? cuz ubuntu is in gnome right
[05:15] <Hansel> Does anybody know what ls `yes` does?
[05:15] <josh0403> sdgr406: sure thing
[05:15] <sdgr406> Balsamic_Chicken: rdesktop
[05:15] <Cybodog> Now enough about YOU, more about me problem.  I do not understand the nameing for ubuntu kernels, if I want 32bit but run amd64, what kernel do I need?
[05:15] <Balsamic_Chicken> sdgr406 thx so much
[05:15] <wick2o> Anyone know how to setup iptables so if my linux server is 10.10.10.5 and i ssh into it and do a telnet 10.10.10.5 2051 that it tunnels to 10.10.10.2:10001?
[05:15] <wick2o> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -d 10.10.10.5 --dport 2051 -j DNAT --to-destination 10.10.10.2:10001
[05:15] <wick2o> doesnt seem to do the trick
[05:16] <kitche> Cybodog: just the -generic one
[05:16] <Thug-N-Me> juano_ thanks
[05:16] <computer13137> Hey again.
[05:16] <Cybodog> Thanks
[05:16] <computer13137> Question...
[05:16] <Hansel> answer...
[05:16] <Drunken_Canuck> anyone know where i can download ndiswrapper version .10
[05:16] <computer13137> What is a "tempfs" partition?  I have tons of them showing up in phpsysinfo... and I don't know what they are...  http://epecweb.ath.cx/phpsysinfo
[05:17] <kitche> computer13137: they are tmpfs they are like swap
[05:17] <computer13137> OK... so when do they go away?
[05:17] <magic_ninja> Balsamic_Chicken: apt-get install krdc and you got it no worries
[05:17] <magic_ninja> Balsamic_Chicken: with kde libs you can use kde and gnome apps cross-platform
[05:17] <kitche> computer13137: depends they might not I run my /tmp in a tmpfs
[05:18] <computer13137> There are less today than there were yesterday
[05:18] <computer13137> So they must go away at some time...
[05:18] <Drunken_Canuck> anyone know where i can download ndiswrapper version .10
[05:18] <elyon225> hehe, upgraded to Flash 9 and it works fine now...
[05:18] <JackBandit69> Gizmo_RA2: well all I can say, is if it is anyway shape or form related to legal issues or will be looked at, searched or viewed by any means that would be detremental to your life in the free socioty and you HAVE to keep the data... make backups onto media (dvd, cd, tape, whatever) and keep it off your property, and anywhere that can be traced back to you or related to you.
[05:19] <Hansel> Drunken - you should have it already... lsmod
[05:19] <Hansel> locate ndiswrapper
[05:19] <Hansel> if you dont have it then google for it and I'm sure there is a tar.gz of it out there.
[05:19] <Thug-N-Me> juano_ i go to sleep  see you around
[05:19] <magic_ninja> i think this cdrom i jus got crapped out on me
[05:20] <magic_ninja> and in hte last stage of the HL 2 install too >.<
[05:20] <Drunken_Canuck> sorry i am a noob to linux, and when i typed in ndiswrapper it said there was an unknown command or something  so then i downloaded it but it said the driver for my wireless was invalid
[05:20] <Enron> c++ developer here? i have some problem with gcc
[05:21] <kitche> Enron: why are you using gcc with c++?
[05:22] <Enron> i don't know
[05:22] <Enron> is it have better than gcc ?
[05:22] <magic_ninja> brb rebooting
[05:23] <kitche> Enron: g++ is used for compiling c++ code
[05:23] <Hansel> !ndiswrapper
[05:23] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:23] <Enron> so.. i using g++ too
[05:23] <Hansel> go read that Drunken_Canuck ^^
[05:23] <mvfeinstein> Can anyone here help me with shared folders? I am trying to set up a network share, but when I try to access it from another computer I get prompted for a user name and password but the authentication fails.
[05:23] <Enron> but when i compile my code with g++... nothing happen
[05:23] <Hansel> mvfeinstein:  NFS or samba or what?
[05:24] <Drunken_Canuck> ok thanks
[05:24] <JackBandit69> Gizmo_RA2: then take your copies on your machine and run something like sdelete (winblowz) or wipe (linux) and do at least 50 passes, if you can make it do a series of 000, 111, 1010101(random) 50+ times, there is no chance of recovering the data... but if you prefer you can use something like PGP or GPG there are a few others I am trying to think of them now. But what you should do is encrypt your data in the strongest bit you can (at least 256) a
[05:24] <JackBandit69> nd use diffrent algrothims (blowfish, tripple DES, ect...) and encrypt it once, then take the encrypted file and encrypt it again, and then encrypted the twice encrypted file at least again. There is someone can break the one or two levels of encryption, they will have more to go which will make it a HUGE HUGE investiment of time and money, or just damn nearly impossiable or more like improbiable they will get it
[05:24] <elyon225> Could someone help me get direct rending working?  I ran the reconfigure of the xserver, but that didn't work.
[05:25] <kitche> elyon225: card?
[05:25] <elyon225> Radeon 9600
[05:25] <clickme> whos having trouble with radeon 9600?
[05:25] <elyon225> clickme: I am.
[05:26] <elyon225> clickme: For some reason after reinstalling Ubuntu and the official ATI drivers, I can't get DR back on.
[05:26] <Jordan_U> elyon225: Edgy?
[05:26] <elyon225> Jordan_U: Yes.
[05:26] <mvfeinstein> Hansel samba I am using the Shared Folders app built into gnome
[05:26] <Jordan_U> elyon225: composit disabled ?
[05:27] <elyon225> Jordan_U: You know, I remember doing that the first time, but didn't see that in the instructions I followed this time.
[05:27] <Jordan_U> elyon225: It should have been if the instructions were for Edgy, what instructions did you follow?
[05:27] <chehgarg> anyone ever get a saa7134 chipset based tv tuner card going on Ubuntu?
[05:27] <GnuLegax> hi everyone!
[05:28] <chehgarg> i'm trying really hard to get the tuner card going... with no luck and i've run out of ideas
[05:28] <elyon225> Jordan_U: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/graphics-cards.html
[05:29] <magic_ninja> for some reason my cdrom just quit working
[05:29] <GnuLegax> hi guys! does anyone here have an Ati X200??
[05:29] <magic_ninja> is there a way to redetect it w/out reboot if it does it again?
[05:29] <Jordan_U> elyon225: That guide is out of date, for future reference wiki.ubuntu.com always has good guides, you need to add these lines to the end of your xorg.conf:
[05:29] <Jordan_U> Section "Extensions"
[05:29] <Jordan_U>         Option  "Composite" "Disable"
[05:29] <Jordan_U> EndSection
[05:30] <chehgarg> can anyone help me get a tv tuner card running?
[05:30] <Jordan_U> elyon225: Oh wait, that is help.ubuntu.com, strange ?
[05:30] <Music_Shuffle> !anyone | chehgarg
[05:30] <ubotu> chehgarg: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:30] <elyon225> Jordan_U: Yeah... those instructions were from the wiki ;)
[05:30] <magic_ninja> !magicdev
[05:30] <ubotu> magicdev: A GNOME daemon for automatically mounting/playing CDs. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.6-2.1 (edgy), package size 44 kB, installed size 676 kB
[05:31] <yong>  where's wine.conf in edgy
[05:31] <kyncani> magic_ninja: mayb modprobe -r and modprobe (in again) some cdrom related modules ?
[05:31] <chehgarg> !anyone
[05:31] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:31] <paz> hello.. does anyone know if it's possible to access a user's encrypted files (I have the password) on an xp ntfs partition from ubuntu?
[05:31] <chehgarg> !anyone | chehgarg
[05:31] <ubotu> chehgarg: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:31] <yong> who known
[05:31] <elyon225> Jordan_U: This just requires a restart of X, right?
[05:31] <Jordan_U> elyon225: Yup
[05:31] <magic_ninja> how do you temporarily disable magicdev as belive is that is the culprit
[05:31] <elyon225> Jordan_U: Okay... I'll be back if this doesn't do it.  Thanks :)
[05:32] <clickme> wait
[05:32] <clickme> check this out
[05:32] <clickme> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=235145
[05:32] <chehgarg> does anyone know how to get a tv tuner card working with ubuntu?
[05:32] <clickme> fixed my radeon 9600
[05:32] <elyon225> clickme: That says it only works for Dapper.  I'm running Edgy.
[05:32] <Music_Shuffle> !elaborate | chehgarg
[05:32] <ubotu> chehgarg: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[05:33] <Music_Shuffle> That's...pretty vague.
[05:33] <elyon225> Music_Shuffle: Can you help me program? ;)
[05:33] <chehgarg> does anyone know how to get a saa7134 chipset based tv tuner card working with ubuntu?
[05:33] <Music_Shuffle> ;P
[05:33] <elyon225> chehgarg: Did you Google for "saa7134 ubuntu"?
[05:34] <elyon225> chehgarg: That's always a great starting point for me.
[05:34] <chehgarg> yes i have, and i am at a lost, as nothign has helped me yet
[05:34] <chehgarg> this is always my last resort
[05:34] <chehgarg> i try not to bother anybody
[05:35] <drivera90>  How can I check incoming and outgoing network traffic?
[05:35] <wick2o> drivera90: netstat -a
[05:36] <Balsamic_Chicken> i'm trying to connect to someone that's could use krdc, once i know his ip address, how do i connect to him, does he need to have some application open for me to be able to connect with him?
[05:37] <GnuLegax> does anyone here have an Ati X200??
[05:38] <leros> i installed tightvncserver via terminal and now I need to uninstall it. Can someone help me?
[05:39] <leros> anyone?
[05:39] <Balsamic_Chicken> leros dpkg -r whatever_ur_trying_to_uninstall_if_u_installed_it_with_a_package, hope this helps, besides that i don't know
[05:40] <Jordan_U> leros: What are you trying to do?
[05:40] <clickme> elyon225: im running edgy too
[05:40] <leros> Balsamic_Chicken: that worked
[05:40] <clickme> elyon225: it worked tho
[05:40] <Balsamic_Chicken> k
[05:41] <magic_ninja> well crap, what controls automounting in edgy
[05:41] <magic_ninja> !automount
[05:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:41] <magic_ninja> !magicdev
[05:41] <ubotu> magicdev: A GNOME daemon for automatically mounting/playing CDs. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.6-2.1 (edgy), package size 44 kB, installed size 676 kB
[05:41] <elyon225> Jordan_U: That worked beautifullly.  Thanks, bud.
[05:41] <leros> is there anyway to get transparent windows without xgl/beryl?
[05:41] <Jordan_U> magic_ninja: I think it is HAL
[05:41] <magic_ninja> !hal
[05:41] <ubotu> hal: Hardware Abstraction Layer. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.7.1-0ubuntu17 (edgy), package size 347 kB, installed size 1112 kB
[05:42] <Jordan_U> leros: Without XGL yes, without beryl or compiz, no
[05:47] <Kaeru> I can't connect to my wireless router. I've got ipw3945 driver and it seems to be working but it can't connect to the AP.
[05:48] <mneptok> Kaeru: do you have network manager installed?
[05:48] <Kaeru> mneptok: yes
[05:48] <mneptok> and you're using that?
[05:49] <mneptok> WEP, WPA/PSK, WPA2 ... ?
[05:49] <Kaeru> mneptok: no, been using iwconfig, ifup/down
[05:49] <Kaeru> mneptok: WPA-PSK
[05:51] <mneptok> Kaeru: network manager is not installed by default. you installed it?
[05:52] <crav> I have a broadcom bcm4318 that I absolutely cannot get to work. I've read and attmpted at least 10 different guides on the subject. Is it worth my $17 to just get a compatable card?
[05:53] <Kaeru> mneptok: I must have at one point
[05:54] <piotrator> jak toto sie obsuguje
[05:54] <mneptok> Kaeru: so use that to connect
[05:56] <Kaeru> mneptok: I have KNetworkManager installed as a frontend but I see nothing about connecting to a wireless network
[05:56] <IntuitiveNipple> Edgy 1st-boot error: Error, failed to install HAL! - what to do?
[05:57] <mneptok> Kaeru: ah, KDE
[06:01] <juano_> to install KDE on ubuntu, do i need only to install via synaptic KDE?
[06:02] <juano_> is there any other requirement?
[06:02] <Gizmo_RA2> kde can be tricky ;)
[06:02] <Music_Shuffle> !kde
[06:02] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[06:02] <Gizmo_RA2> I use apptitude
[06:02] <Flannel> juano_: you might want kubuntu-desktop instead of KDE
[06:03] <juano_> Flannel: ok, ill try that thanks
[06:03] <magic_ninja> lol
[06:03] <kyncani> juano_: i would install both kubuntu-desktop and kde (more stuff)
[06:03] <Music_Shuffle> And Flannel gets credit?! I factoid-owned it up!
[06:04] <QMario> How do I print to PDF with Firefox?
[06:04] <juano_> kyncani: install both? k
[06:04] <kyncani> juano_: it brings more stuff in
[06:04] <rohan> hey all
[06:05] <rohan> how do i download upgrades for 'simply Mepis" dvd
[06:06] <LSolaris> Who's a pothead, say AYE!
[06:06] <LSolaris> AYE!
[06:06] <Gizmo_RA2> lol
[06:06] <kanpachi> hello
[06:06] <magic_ninja> AYE!
[06:06] <Gizmo_RA2> AAAYYYYYEEEEEEce
[06:06] <kyncani> rohan: this is #ubuntu, you might try #mepis or something like that
[06:06] <juano_> thanks guys, im downloading kubuntu-desktop now
[06:06] <makuseru> anyone know a channel i can go to for videogame help?
[06:06] <rohan> ok
[06:07] <kanpachi> xserver keeps randomly crashing on and logging me out x.x
[06:07] <Gizmo_RA2> na no idea.....didn't you ask that before??? start a new channel called #videogame_help ;)
[06:07] <kanpachi> i'm using nvidia geforce 4 mx with nvidia-glx drivers from repo, what can be causing it? x.x
[06:07] <kyncani> !x
[06:07] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:07] <magic_ninja> i'll idle there, help it going a bit
[06:08] <EnsignRedshirt> QMario: I  can think of two ways: (1)  In the Print window, click on Print To File, and call the file, say output.ps.  Then, in a shell,  give the command: ps2pdf output.ps
[06:08] <Gizmo_RA2> makuseru make a new channel /join #videogame_help
[06:08] <kanpachi> ?
[06:09] <soundmaster80> hi everyone, i know this is a dumb question but we have a site that just went live and now i'm getting sql error 28. the only partitions that are at 100% are the /var/tmp directory. I'm wondering if i can deleted the contents and not suffer
[06:09] <QMario> Thank you EnsignRedshirt! :)
[06:09] <soundmaster80> forgive my urgency but i'm not able to do anything to it and i'm watching it sit there
[06:09] <EnsignRedshirt> QMario: (2) I believe there is a way to create a "PDF printer".  It appears to be a printer in the Print dialog, but it actually creates a PDF file.
[06:09] <jbroome> that's the point of /tmp
[06:10] <EnsignRedshirt> QMario: ...but I don't know how to create such a PDF printer.  You'll have to do some more querying and searching if you want to go that route.
[06:10] <kyncani> soundmaster80: with xdiskusage, you can see what exactly in /var/tmp is eating disk space
[06:10] <QMario> EnsignRedshirt, do you like Star Trek?
[06:11] <soundmaster80> since it's a tmp folder can i delete the contents of it without much
[06:11] <EnsignRedshirt> QMario: ;)
[06:11] <Flannel> QMario: cups-pdf is one of them
[06:13] <sidewinder> anyone notice insanely slow dl rates from the ubuntu repositories?
[06:14] <james296> is it possible to get the intro movie displaying correctly in Half Life 2 or no?
[06:14] <Flannel> sidewinder: yeah, some of the mirrors are having issues
[06:15] <james296> well?
[06:16] <sidewinder> thanks
[06:16] <kitche>  /quit
[06:16] <krinns_> what this error mean  gdm[4767] : (child 5398) gdm_slave_alrm_handler: ws130.ltsp:0 got ARLM signal, to ping display
[06:17] <magic_ninja> grr
[06:17] <maddash> how do I ignore the login/logout msgs that irc plagues me with?
[06:17] <magic_ninja> for some reason half-life 2 installer works fine until the 5th cd, is there a way to redetect my cdrom drive w/out rebooting
[06:17] <mvfeinstein> Can anyone here suggest any good backup software? I would like to be able to create an image of my hd as well as full and incramental backups and I would love to be able to backup other systems on the network with it.
[06:17] <Flannel> !backup | mvfeinstein
[06:17] <ubotu> mvfeinstein: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[06:17] <erudified> magic_ninja, no broadband? I'd install via steam if I could
[06:18] <mneptok> mvfeinstein: rsync
[06:18] <artbird309> !php
[06:18] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:18] <mvfeinstein> Flannel thank you
[06:19] <mathew> !
[06:19] <magic_ninja> erudified: i'm having trouble with activex controls
[06:19] <erudified> magic_ninja, you need to get that mozilla-activex control and use it
[06:19] <erudified> magic_ninja, I think one of those commercial wine things comes with it? It's been a while
[06:20] <mathew> how do change kopete default browser mine in box is usin quanta instead of firefox
[06:20] <magic_ninja> yea it does, but for some reason the cedega p2p won't install it and i can't find the binary for cedega anywhere
[06:20] <erudified> I ended up getting the old counterstrike working pretty well on my dell inspiron 600m laptop
[06:20] <magic_ninja> if anyone out there could help a brother out?
[06:20] <erudified> (running ubuntu!)
[06:20] <erudified> source was unusable, though
[06:21] <erudified> http://www.iol.ie/~locka/mozilla/mozilla.htm
[06:21] <kestron> hi i have a problem with firefox.....can get the sounds to work :(
[06:21] <erudified> mozilla activex
[06:22] <mathew> how do you change kopete in box to be firefox as default
[06:22] <mathew> please
[06:22] <chris12349> I'm looking for these Icons I think they are called "industrial" anybody know"? http://default.co.yu/~ram/screenshots/screenshot-17052006.jpg
[06:22] <kestron> i mean cant
[06:22] <juano_> !kde
[06:22] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[06:22] <foglight> is there a command similar to yum --whatprovices in ubuntu for finding file level dependencies?
[06:23] <erudified> That mozilla activex plugin - you need to install a windows build of mozilla to use it
[06:24] <erudified> and there's some wine configuration you need to get steam to launch mozilla
[06:24] <Flannel> foglight: unfortunately apt only gets that information after instalaltion.  However, packages.ubuntu.com has a search (scroll down to second form)
[06:24] <mathew> hi i need help with kopete
[06:24] <foglight> Flannel: thanks
[06:24] <sdgr406> foglight: looks like dpkg can do that for you
[06:24] <magic_ninja> now i just need to locate the mozilla activex controls for the game
[06:25] <sdgr406> foglight: -S | --search <pattern> ...        Find package(s) owning file(s).
[06:25] <james296> how can I rename a folder in the Gnome menu?
[06:25] <foglight> sdgr406: ok yea thats good for already installed pkgs
[06:26] <sdgr406> oh, I see what you mean.. my bad
[06:26] <furseiseki> C
[06:26] <james296> well?
[06:26] <maddash> james296: press f2
[06:26] <magic_ninja> we got ne cedega users in here
[06:27] <Dormot> hello,  can anyone help me with ubuntu server edition driver issued
[06:27] <Dormot> issues*
[06:27] <james296> doesnt work
[06:27] <Dheeraj_k> how to upgrade from dapper to edgy? i have edgy cd!
[06:28] <Dormot> the resolution wont change
[06:28] <magic_ninja> Dheeraj_k: upgrade via the repos
[06:28] <Flannel> Dheeraj_k: which edgy CD? desktop or alternate?
[06:28] <sdgr406> does anyone know why my dvd burner spits out a blank disc any time I try to burn something? I get an icon on the desktop that says 'blank dvd+r disc' but nautilus-cd-burner or brasero both eject it
[06:28] <maddash> james296: tough. use google.
[06:28] <Dheeraj_k> desktop!
[06:28] <Dormot> im new to this unbuntu linux thing, and i dont know much
[06:29] <chehgarg> does anyone know how to setup a saa7134 chipset based tuner card? i've made progress and now have static
[06:29] <juano_> sdgr406: what u use to burn?
[06:29] <Flannel> Dheeraj_k: then that CD won't help you.  You should probably just download updates from the repositories
[06:29] <Flannel> !upgrade | Dheeraj_k
[06:29] <ubotu> Dheeraj_k: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:29] <sdgr406> either nautilus-cd-burner or brasero... I was able to burn discs up until a day or two ago
[06:29] <burepe> Dormot: you need help? Just ask people will reply if they can help.
[06:30] <james296> I cant find anything to help me
[06:30] <juano_> xcdroast works fine for me
[06:30] <sdgr406> burning a dvd would take about 45 minutes and I was having performance problems.. DMA didn't seem to be working, so I added amd74xx (my IDE chipset) to /etc/modules and my disk performance is good now but I can't burn anything
[06:30] <GnuLegax> does anyone know why glxinfo says "Direct Render: yes" and glxgears gives high points, but games and screensavers go pretty slow????
[06:30] <sdgr406> I changed back but it still doesn't work... the only other thing that happened afaik is dbus got updated
[06:31] <James__> Wireless question: I am using ndiswrapper with a broadcom card, and the wireless works for 10 minutes, then stops working.. any ideas?
[06:31] <james296> oh wait a minute, how do I manually edit the files in the gnome menu instead of using the gnome menu editor?
[06:31] <James__> when i reboot, wireless works again
[06:31] <burepe> Dormot:  you are using the server editon but you have a gui? I thought that the server edition was just a text based thing
[06:31] <james296> what file is everything that is in Applications, Places, and System?
[06:31] <I_am_hollywood> server is same, just has more server apps installed
[06:32] <Dormot> huh, i downloaded it
[06:32] <GnuLegax> burepe, yeah, you are right, only text...
[06:32] <Dormot> it said server edition
[06:32] <burepe> Dormot I am having a similar problem
[06:32] <GnuLegax> does anyone know why glxinfo says "Direct Render: yes" and glxgears gives high points, but games and screensavers go pretty slow????
[06:32] <burepe> Dormot: so you are not using the server edition
[06:32] <burepe> Dormot: it is confusing I know
[06:32] <Dormot> how can i tell
[06:33] <mena> IS THERE ANY EASY WAY TO INSTALL THE KUBUNTU LIVE CD THROW THE THE OS I AM USING
[06:33] <burepe> Dormot: did it start as a live cd? did you have a graphic install
[06:33] <burepe> yes
[06:33] <Dormot> yes
[06:33] <GnuLegax> does anyone know why glxinfo says "Direct Render: yes" and glxgears gives high points, but games and screensavers go pretty slow???? with ATI X200
[06:33] <Flannel> !caps | mena
[06:33] <ubotu> mena: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:33] <kestron> hey real can not anybody help me with getting the flashplayer to paly sounds????
[06:33] <n2diy>   ! caps
[06:33] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:33] <Dormot> wait
[06:33] <james296> well?
[06:33] <Flannel> Dormot: if it started as a GUI, you don't have the server CD
[06:34] <Dormot> i dont think so, it made me format the HD pick a partion and then it installed
[06:34] <mena> Flannel, I AM NOT SHOUTING
[06:34] <burepe> Dormot: so you are using the regular distro but you can have a server on it. Actually I just reinstalled and setup a server and I have the same resolution problem as you
[06:34] <juano_> mena: what OS are you using?
[06:34] <n2diy> ?
[06:34] <mena> juano_, ubuntu
[06:34] <n2diy> ! es
[06:34] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:35] <juano_> mena: and what do you want to install?
[06:35] <Dormot> is there any updates for drivers etc
[06:35] <I_am_hollywood> kestron: I recentally fixed the same problem, let me try to find a simple guide Ihad found before
[06:35] <burepe> Dormot: do you know what your video card it?
[06:35] <mena> juano_, kubuntu
[06:35] <Dormot> its a dell with a built in card
[06:35] <MasterShrek> mena:    sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:35] <juano_> mena: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:35] <burepe> Dormot: we have the same problem. Hold on
[06:35] <mena> juano_, this will do what
[06:35] <Dormot> thnx
[06:35] <MasterShrek> it will install kubuntu
[06:36] <juano_> mena: install kubuntu desktop
[06:36] <MasterShrek> choose kubuntu session from your gdm
[06:36] <james296> so what folder do I go to to edit the GNOME panel?
[06:36] <GnuLegax> does anyone know why glxinfo says "Direct Render: yes" and glxgears gives high points, but games and screensavers go pretty slow???? with ATI X200
[06:36] <Polygon89> hello, im wanting to shrink a ext3 partiton that is on an external hard drive some so i can create a fat32 partiton on it. Im running from the ubuntu edgy live cd, and for some reason when i select it in gparted, all the options are greyed out. I dont know why its doing this as gparted is running as root... can anyone help?
[06:36] <juano_> exactly
[06:36] <Flannel> james296: use alacarte
[06:36] <mena> juano_, i want to install just kubuntu and remove the ubuntu is that will do so
[06:36] <MasterShrek> actually it may be labeled kde
[06:36] <james296> yes, but I cant rename the main folders using that
[06:36] <odi3> problem: my mtab file has duplicate entries which are messing up my mounts. how do i fix this?
[06:36] <juano_> mena: no, with that you will have both kubuntu-desktop and gnome ubuntu
[06:36] <mena> MasterShrek, thanks
[06:37] <burepe> Dormot: do this command "lspci" and find the video card. then paste the one line for the video card here
[06:37] <chehgarg> does anyone know how to help me get sound off of my tv tuner card, i got the video working but i have no sound
[06:37] <james296> Flannel
[06:37] <n2diy> Polygon89:  take a look at gparted.
[06:37] <mena> juano_, is that better
[06:37] <X-Rob> Probably a bad time to join and ask, but who is/are the person/people who manage this channel?
[06:37] <I_am_hollywood> kestron: try this http://www.oreillynet.com/onlamp/blog/2006/07/audio_problem_from_flash_video.html
[06:37] <MasterShrek> mena u could do sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop   but i can almost guarentee it will make your system unstable
[06:37] <MasterShrek> mena that would get rid of gnome
[06:37] <james296> now what?
[06:37] <Polygon89> n2diy: yeah... what am i looking at?
[06:37] <burepe> chehgarg: your tv tuner card should have a seperate sound output than your computer. Plug your speakers in that
[06:37] <juano_> mena: i suppose so, if you want to install kubuntu, just leave gnome as it is, by default you can always start kubuntu at gdm
[06:37] <Dormot> on terminal? sry im new to this linux system
[06:37] <mena> MasterShrek, okay
[06:38] <jorgeu> anyone can help me with obexftp?
[06:38] <Flannel> X-Rob: there are quite a few of them, #ubuntu-ops is a place you can go to talk to them
[06:38] <juano_> mena: plus you can still use gnome anytime you wish
[06:38] <X-Rob> Thanks, Flannel
[06:38] <n2diy> Polygon89:  are you in X?
[06:38] <james296> Flannel?
[06:38] <Polygon89> n2diy: yeah, im running from the ubuntu edgy live cd, i have gparted open and im looking at it
[06:38] <mena> juano_, okay ....but etch one has its apps is that will make in conflict in the menu or something else
[06:39] <chehgarg> burepe doesn't work
[06:39] <juano_> mena: not at all
[06:39] <Dormot> i am using a windows pc atm but ill type the line
[06:39] <n2diy> Polygon89:  cool, good luck, I've never played with it.
[06:39] <mena> juano_, okay thanks
[06:39] <Polygon89> n2diy: oh...
[06:39] <crav> i have a broadcom 4318 wireless that is an absolute bitch to install. Is it worth my $17 to get a new wireless card?
[06:40] <juano_> mena: by the way im installing kubuntu-desktop my self right now :P
[06:40] <n2diy> Polygon89: I know what it is, but I've never used it.
[06:40] <I_am_hollywood> anyone know how to remote desktop to a win box on my network, can't seem to find much help
[06:40] <James__> crav: have you gotten it working?
[06:40] <Dormot> Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 02)
[06:40] <mena> juano_, okay ^_^
[06:40] <Polygon89> n2diy: so you do not know why its not letting me select "shrink" on my ext3 partiton of my external drive?
[06:40] <juano_> mena: they told me that installing kde also is good, more stuff
[06:40] <jbroome> Polygon89: is it mounted?
[06:40] <crav> James: i've tried just about every guide out there, to no avail
[06:41] <n2diy> Polygon89: Yes, that is correct.
[06:41] <mena> juano_, ok.....^_^
[06:41] <Polygon89> jbroome: yeah its mounted, i can select it from the desktop and everything, its mounted to /media/LinuxBackup
[06:41] <jbroome> you can't resize it while it's mounted
[06:41] <Dormot> burepe, ut ehre
[06:42] <Dormot> there*
[06:42] <Polygon89> jbroome: ahhhh that makes sense
[06:42] <Polygon89> jbroome: thanks a bunch
[06:42] <jbroome> np
[06:42] <James__> crav: i've got a 1390 and it works sporadically for me... but i would say for 17 bucks, it's worthingetting something else
[06:42] <Jordan_U> mena: Are you still trying to get rid of all of the gnome stuff?
[06:42] <I_am_hollywood> ooh whats perfect for partition editing is a live cd with gparted
[06:42] <James__> mine works fine for about 10 minutes and then won't work again til i reboot
[06:42] <burepe> Dormot: did you find the line? in the terminal yes
[06:42] <odi3> anyone know how the entries in mtab are added? my system is adding a duplicate entry and screwing up the mount
[06:42] <mena> Jordan_U, no
[06:43] <Dormot> Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 02)  is this it
[06:43] <mena> Jordan_U, but the problem is i try to install icthux throw ubuntu
[06:43] <mena> Jordan_U, and i found my self lost bettween apps
[06:43] <chehgarg> does anybody know how to get sound froma  tv tuner card? I finally got video. it's a saa7134 chipset and modprobe saa7134_alsa doesn't seem to work
[06:43] <crav> http://www.directron.com/awn154.html  this is the card i'm gonna order, anyone know of any problems?
[06:44] <Dormot> there are a few lines
[06:44] <burepe> Dormot: that is your ram I think. Look for something like this "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller:"
[06:44] <mena> Jordan_U, and one more thing that the ubuntu apps its icons doesnt apper in the menu and it makes me confuse and i thought i had something wrong with mu system
[06:44] <burepe> near the bottom I think
[06:45] <Dormot> oh got it, gimme 1 sec
[06:45] <sleeper> hey
[06:45] <mena> Jordan_U, ichthux is an kubuntu project
[06:45] <reddragon3668> my 'puter mysteriously locked up hard a bit ago... what log file might have info about what happened?
[06:45] <James__> crav: not heard anything about the airnet card... check out this thread.. they discuss several cards that worked out of the box: http://www.seungpyo.com/stacksandpiles/2006/07/02/broadcom-wireless-in-ubuntu-dapper-606/
[06:45] <odi3> anyone know how the entries in mtab are added? my system is adding a duplicate entry and screwing up the mount
[06:46] <Dormot> Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[06:46] <I_am_hollywood> mena, I would reccomend just installing Ubuntu and then adding the christian software packages you want that are in ichthux
[06:47] <mena> I_am_hollywood, okay
[06:47] <Dormot> how can i whisper you personally?
[06:47] <minerale> can linux binaries have icons embedded in them the same way windows binaries can?
[06:47] <burepe> Dormot we have differnt cards but I think we have the same problem. I am not sure how to solve it but I was going to try right now.
[06:47] <burepe> Dormot are you using xchat?
[06:47] <sleeper> I'm totally new to linux
[06:48] <Dormot> icechat on windows
[06:48] <mena> I_am_hollywood, so now is the better to install kubuntu then ichthix stuff or the best to install ubuntu then ichthux stuff
[06:48] <PA|CodyLoco> hi guys
[06:48] <sleeper> what channel is good to ask newbie questions?
[06:48] <burepe> right click on my name. Is your nick registered? You can't do it if it is not
[06:48] <Jordan_U> sleeper: This one :)
[06:48] <PA|CodyLoco> 'I'm still stuck with booting the Ubuntu installer
[06:49] <sleeper> cool
[06:49] <PA|CodyLoco> Can anyone with experience give me a hand?
[06:49] <MasterShrek> PA|CodyLoco whats up
[06:49] <sleeper> I'm going to try to install openSUSE on an old compaq that windows hates
[06:49] <Dormot> i dont think it it
[06:49] <mena> PA|CodyLoco, what is your memory ram
[06:49] <PA|CodyLoco> 1GB
[06:49] <odi3> anyone know anything about mtab?
[06:49] <burepe> Dormot if we can get a solution going it is going to be easier if you are on the comp with the problem. Is it connected to the net?
[06:50] <Jordan_U> PA|CodyLoco: What exactly happens when you try to boot?
[06:50] <MasterShrek> PA|CodyLoco do u have a sata drive by chance?
[06:50] <Dormot> yes, they both are
[06:50] <PA|CodyLoco> Pentium D925, 250GB HDD
[06:50] <mena> PA|CodyLoco, ok then ask any one else i dont know more bec i have 256 and it was getting problem bec of the ram
[06:50] <sleeper> How can I reformat the harddisk with linux? and what file system should I use?
[06:50] <Jerub> How do I import a key with apt-key ?
[06:50] <Dormot> im just using this one for the chat
[06:50] <burepe> dormot do sudo apt-get install xchat
[06:50] <Jordan_U> sleeper: The Ubuntu installer will let you do that, and ext3
[06:50] <PA|CodyLoco> it hangs right after the part that says it is loading the linux kernel
[06:51] <Dormot> on ubuntu?
[06:51] <ArtificialNother> Hey, quick question, I just installed the new Ubuntu off their site on my 64bit machine, and when I go to bootup it doesn't give me the graphical login screen, rather the text based one, whot's up with that o.O
[06:51] <burepe> yeah
[06:51] <sleeper> does openSUSE come with a browswer and email?
[06:51] <MasterShrek> PA|CodyLoco did u check the cd for defects?
[06:51] <Annirak>  I'm trying to capture audio from my line-in port with a script.  I'm using rec (sox package).  When I listen to the audio stream by removing the mute flag from line-in in alsamixer, I hear clean audio.  When I record it with $rec -d /dev/dsp outfile.wav and play it back in kaffeine, it's distorted.  When I force the sample rate to 44.1kHz, it's not as bad, but it's still distorted.
[06:51] <MasterShrek> sleeper yes it does
[06:51] <MasterShrek> sleeper but you should try slackware, youll learn alot more about linux
[06:51] <sleeper> oh
[06:51] <PA|CodyLoco> MasterShrek Yeah I have I've tried a couple different disks already, it's not the disk
[06:51] <MasterShrek> and u will learn how to tweak the kernel for the hardware that you are using
[06:52] <Himura> or try LFS :p
[06:52] <nilsl> Uhm, I tried to install quota, and did a "quotacheck -avugm" which to so long I ctrl+c it, now, I can't do a whole lot any longer. including deleting those lines I added to /etc/fstab. Any ideas? :D
[06:52] <riotkittie> slack is nice. and the boot time cant be beat.
[06:52] <thoreauputic> heh slackware advocacy in the Ubuntu channel :)
[06:52] <MasterShrek> heh
[06:52] <nilsl> riotkittie: Of course it can.
[06:52] <Dormot> seems i cant use my keyboard to type in the pw
[06:52] <MasterShrek> well for older hardware slack or gentoo
[06:52] <ArtificialNother> Anybody want to help me ayee?
[06:52] <Himura> Linux lovers here
[06:52] <nilsl> riotkittie: And btw, who boots, really? :D
[06:52] <james296> ok what is an alternative way to edit my GNOME menu instead of using Alacarte?
[06:53] <mena> I_am_hollywood, if i remove the gnome after installing kubuntu desktop,,,it would make the system unstable
[06:53] <MasterShrek> james296 get kde
[06:53] <MasterShrek> lol
[06:53] <PA|CodyLoco> MasterShrek any ideas?
[06:53] <nilsl> Himura: No, Linux haters.
[06:53] <riotkittie> i do  once every few days <hangs head in shame>
[06:53] <james296> besides that
[06:53] <Amaranth> james296: manually editing/creating ini and XML files
[06:53] <Dormot> go it
[06:53] <nilsl> riotkittie: :(
[06:53] <james296> I mean as in using a text editor to edit it
[06:53] <sleeper> It's an old compaq desktop so do I need special linux drivers for the motherboard?
[06:53] <MasterShrek> PA|CodyLoco does it happen with other distros?
[06:53] <james296> whats the file under?
[06:53] <Amaranth> james296: you have to create it
[06:53] <MasterShrek> sleeper i highly doubt it
[06:53] <james296> because to me Alacarte seems a bit buggy to me
[06:53] <wy> It seems edgy is using another kind of identification method in /etc/fstab. How can I set that for a new disk partition?
[06:53] <nilsl> Nobody have any ideas about what to do with my corrupt /etc/fstab? :D
[06:53] <Amaranth> james296: it's a _very_ complicated specification
[06:53] <PA|CodyLoco> MasterShrek tried the KDE version as well, same problem
[06:54] <Dormot> says cant find xcaht
[06:54] <james296> why would I have to create it if its already there?
[06:54] <odi3> nilsl, can you just make a new one?
[06:54] <MasterShrek> did u try some other distribution? like a knoppix cd or something?
[06:54] <sleeper> so slackware comes with drivers for?
[06:54] <PA|CodyLoco> oh no
[06:54] <ArtificialNother> Hey, quick question, I just installed the new Ubuntu off their site on my 64bit machine, and when I go to bootup it doesn't give me the graphical login screen, rather the text based one, I'm trying to boot it on KDE.
[06:54] <riotkittie> xcaht?
[06:54] <nilsl> odi3: That's a thought.
[06:54] <Amaranth> james296: http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/
[06:54] <Amaranth> james296: pages and pages of complicated and it depends on the desktop files spec
[06:54] <PA|CodyLoco> MasterShrek I would rather not if possible
[06:55] <Flannel> ArtificialNother: did you upgrade?  which CD did you download to install from?
[06:55] <MasterShrek> sleeper slackware comes with a linux kernel (2.4.33 to be exact) that is what is interacting with your hardware
[06:55] <wy> Anyone can help? It seems edgy is using another kind of identification method in /etc/fstab. Something like "UUID=e360521b-f570-4199-8f34-d50cb9572117". How can I set that for a new disk partition?
[06:55] <odi3> nilsl just rename it and write a new one, if you need i can give you mine for a starting point
[06:55] <ArtificialSynaps> No it's a new cd off ubuntu's site
[06:55] <PA|CodyLoco> MasterShrek Is there a linux distro I could try that would run right off the CD w/o me having to install anything?
[06:55] <ArtificialSynaps> the 64bit version
[06:55] <Flannel> ArtificialSynaps: which CD did you download?
[06:55] <MasterShrek> PA|CodyLoco yes knoppix does that
[06:55] <ArtificialSynaps> PA : try Knoppix
[06:55] <Flannel> PA|CodyLoco: there are tons, ubuntu even has one.  They're called LiveCDs
[06:55] <Music_Shuffle> PA|CodyLoco, Knoppix? Or any LiveCD?
[06:55] <ArtificialSynaps> hang on, let me check Flannel
[06:55] <Flannel> ArtificialSynaps: right, but, which one?  Desktop? Alternate? Server?
[06:56] <MasterShrek> knoppix is a nice cd to have handy
[06:56] <james296> ok, well in my applications menu I have two unneeded folders in it and I cant remove one of them using Alacarte
[06:56] <riotkittie> so is slax
[06:56] <ArtificialSynaps> kubuntu-6.10-desktop-amd64
[06:56] <ArtificialSynaps> That one
[06:56] <PA|CodyLoco> I'm using the Ubuntu Live CD, that's the problem is it won't load the isntaller
[06:56] <Amaranth> james296: what are they?
[06:56] <riotkittie> the slax live CD is sweet
[06:56] <MasterShrek> slax is nice
[06:56] <MasterShrek> based on slackware :)
[06:56] <james296> wine and wine-wine
[06:56] <I_am_hollywood> heck yeah it is, get knoppix live with gparted
[06:56] <Music_Shuffle> PA|CodyLoco, try another LiveCD perhaps, Knoppix is fun though.
[06:56] <Amaranth> james296: yay WINE bugs
[06:56] <I_am_hollywood> and slax is nice cause of the configurable packages
[06:56] <sleeper> Will the ethernet work right after the installation, MasterShrek?
[06:56] <Dormot> burepe
[06:56] <james296> lol, so what do I do?
[06:57] <PA|CodyLoco> Music_Shuffle I've tried several different LiveCDs
[06:57] <MasterShrek> it should sleeper
[06:57] <riotkittie> i know. i loves me some slackware. though i am too dumb to use it these days
[06:57] <root_> Ubuntu releases every 6 months?
[06:57] <Flannel> ArtificialSynaps: well, that certainly shouldve installed the desktop.  Did you get any errors during installation?  What sort of console do you get? what does it say?
[06:57] <Dormot> it cant find xchat, says error
[06:57] <Flannel> root_: yes
[06:57] <Amaranth> james296: i dunno
[06:57] <nilsl> odi3: Uhms...
[06:57] <PA|CodyLoco> It hangs at the same part every time
[06:57] <nilsl> Hehe
[06:57] <ArtificialSynaps> Nope
[06:57] <james296> you dont know?
[06:57] <nilsl> odi3: I can't write to my file system any longer, lol
[06:57] <PA|CodyLoco> Just a blinking cursor at the top left of the screen
[06:57] <MasterShrek> sleeper most hardware is supported in linux, especially older hardware. newer hardware is sometimes hit and miss
[06:57] <mena> !h
[06:57] <Music_Shuffle> PA|CodyLoco, then its not the disks :(
[06:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about h - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:57] <nilsl> Omg I suck.
[06:57] <burepe> Dormot:  wait one sec
[06:57] <nilsl> :D
[06:57] <Amaranth> james296: nope, i'd have to see a lot of the files that make up that wine menu and i'm about to go to bed
[06:57] <ArtificialSynaps> No errors, it all installed fine and when I take the cd out it brings it to the command line and says Ubuntu 6.10 ttyl and then lets me login
[06:57] <PA|CodyLoco> Music_Shuffle yeah I had figured that one already- so now what?
[06:58] <james296> GAH!!!
[06:58] <Flannel> ArtificialSynaps: alright, try this: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:58] <ArtificialSynaps> but it's straight from the command line
[06:58] <odi3> nilsl try         sudo gedit etc/fstab
[06:58] <james296> its really annoying lol
[06:58] <MasterShrek> ArtificialSynaps you need a video driver
[06:58] <ArtificialSynaps> Doing that right now
[06:58] <odi3> actually it might have to be ../etc/fstab
[06:58] <MasterShrek> oh nvm
[06:58] <Amaranth> james296: please pastebin your ~/.config/menus/applications.menu file
[06:58] <nilsl> odi3: Yea, I can't, no permissions
[06:58] <james296> I wish I can just right click delete one of them...
[06:58] <PA|CodyLoco> Thanks anyways :)
[06:58] <odi3> nilsl go to your etc directory
[06:58] <Amaranth> james296: if i can figure it out from there woohoo, otherwise i'd be willing to look tomorrow
[06:58] <PA|CodyLoco> Can anyone else help me then?
[06:58] <CzarAlex> Drake_: Ya in here?
[06:59] <odi3> they type sudo gedit fstab
[06:59] <ArtificialSynaps> Now it wants Ubuntu-serer 6.10 from my CD drive
[06:59] <Amaranth> PA|CodyLoco: What's the problem?
[06:59] <Drake_> I'm here Czar.
[06:59] <MasterShrek> PA|CodyLoco what ubuntu version are u using?
[06:59] <odi3> sudo stands for super user do
[06:59] <PA|CodyLoco> Ubuntu Desktop 5.10
[06:59] <odi3> i think haha
[06:59] <ArtificialSynaps> What should I do
[06:59] <ArtificialSynaps> ?*
[06:59] <james296> how do I do that lol
[06:59] <MasterShrek> ArtificialSynaps edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:59] <ArtificialSynaps> I've got the kubuntu iso dling right now, should I just wait?
[06:59] <odi3> ls
[07:00] <MasterShrek> and comment out the first line
[07:00] <Flannel> ArtificialSynaps: You didn't use the Desktop CD ;)  You got the server CD.  Alright, no big deal.  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out (#) the cd line (it'll be close to the top)
[07:00] <Amaranth> PA|CodyLoco: Oh wow breezy. That thing is 4 months away from not having any support. :)
[07:00] <Flannel> ArtificialSynaps: ctrl-O saves, ctrl-X exits
[07:00] <PA|CodyLoco> ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386
[07:00] <ArtificialSynaps> Shite, you're right...
[07:00] <Amaranth> !pastebin | james296
[07:00] <ubotu> james296: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:00] <MehAdult> Howdy.
[07:00] <nilsl> odi3: Uhm, my whole hda1 is read-only now.
[07:00] <MehAdult> How can I find out if I'm using 6.06 or 6.10? I forget.
[07:00] <Flannel> ArtificialSynaps: it's no big deal, you can change it over to a deskop real easy.
[07:00] <MehAdult> I've got the 2.6.17 kernel.
[07:00] <ArtificialSynaps> It says it's the desktop version, but this is the server version
[07:00] <crav> i've decided that it is no longer worth my time and effort to try to configure my built in wireless. i'm ordering a new wireless card.
[07:00] <Flannel> MehAdult: lsb_release -a
[07:00] <ArtificialSynaps> What should I do then?
[07:00] <MasterShrek> MehAdult try uname -a
[07:00] <MehAdult> ty Flannel
[07:01] <Drake_> I'm having an issue with GRUB/MBR
[07:01] <MehAdult> Yup edgy :).
[07:01] <riotkittie> crav,  order me one too ;p
[07:01] <MehAdult> ty again
[07:01] <CzarAlex> Drake_: Ah go ahead :)
[07:01] <nilsl> Screw this, lol
[07:01] <nilsl> :D
[07:01] <odi3> nilsl: even when u use sudo?
[07:01] <PA|CodyLoco> crav I'm starting to think it's no longer worth my time to get Ubuntu to run...  :(
[07:01] <nilsl> odi3: Yup.
[07:01] <riotkittie> though my wireless is fine on ubuntu
[07:01] <Flannel> ArtificialSynaps: comment out the CD line, then sudo apt-get update, what processor you using? AMD64?
[07:01] <burepe> Dormot: ok we got 3 things to do. First lets get a slower channel go to #kansailug
[07:01] <james296> ok check it plz
[07:01] <ArtificialSynaps> yeah, AMD64
[07:01] <Dormot> ok
[07:01] <james296> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/804/
[07:01] <ArtificialSynaps> Give me the command once more please
[07:01] <riotkittie> PA|CodyLoco, what issues are you having gettiing it to run?
[07:01] <crav> riotkittie: i'm working with a chip that has all sorts of problems. when i mentioned it to a friend he said "ya, you're fucked"
[07:02] <PA|CodyLoco> riotkittie do you mind joining a slower channel?  #codyhelp
[07:02] <Drake_> I shut my computer down a few weeks back, tried to boot it up again and it told me that there was no OS present.  So I replaced the harddrive with a brand new one, reinstalled Ubuntu and now after the computer passes through BIOS, it just sits at a black screen, doing nothing.
[07:02] <odi3> nilsl i am a ubuntu noob too so dont have too many ideas... maybe try restarting or manually unmounting and remounting?
[07:02] <Drake_> So I'm looking to reinstall GRUB.
[07:02] <crav> if i made minimum wage for the entire time i spent working on this, i'd have more than enough money for this: http://www.directron.com/awn154.html
[07:02] <Flannel> ArtificialSynaps: alright, we're going to install a desktop kernel, then reboot, then install kubuntu-desktop
[07:02] <ArtificialSynaps> Alrighty, that sounds good
[07:02] <Flannel> ArtificialSynaps: so, sudo apt-get install linux-generic
[07:03] <james296> well?
[07:03] <Flannel> ArtificialSynaps: then reboot for the new kernel, then when you come back, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, and that's... it
[07:03] <Amaranth> james296: you need to say my nick before your messages to me, 900 people in here
[07:03] <juano> Flannel: thanks, got kubuntu now works fine
[07:03] <Amaranth> james296: i just saw your url
[07:03] <Wimpog> Guys, I have two interfaces eth0 and eth1. I ONLY need DHCP server to listen on eth1. I have subnet declaration in /etc/dhcpd.conf for eth1. BUT STILL dhcpd won't start, it compains "No subnet declaration for eth0". Do I still need a subnet declaration for the interface that I DON'T want DHCP to listen on? If yes, please tell me what should it be....
[07:03] <improper> hi all. I was wondering if anyone could help me upgrade my libc6 package to 2.5-0ubuntu1 or greater
[07:03] <james296> ok
[07:03] <james296> I dunno how to do that whole name thing lol
[07:04] <Amaranth> james296: just type "amar" and hit tab, then type your regular message
[07:04] <james296> Amaranth, ok thnx
[07:04] <ArtificialSynaps> Okay, I got it, thanks Flannel
[07:04] <Flannel> ArtificialSynaps: eventually (once you get kubuntu, or whatever) you'll want to remove linux-server and linux-image-server, and then the individual -server kernel too, the first two are the important onesto remove though (well, they'll make it so you won't be downloading both types of kernels each time there's an update)
[07:05] <Wimpog> Can someone help me with DHCP???
[07:05] <brussel> Why does apt-cache show apache show version 1.3.34-4 instead of apache 2...
[07:05] <crimsun> improper: um, you really don't want to do that unless you have a compelling (vital) reason
[07:05] <Amaranth> james296: did you try right clicking on the wine and wine-wine menus in alacarte and choosing "Delete"?
[07:05] <juano> Wimpog: run dhcpd3 eth1
[07:05] <james296> yes
[07:05] <Flannel> brussel: because 'apache' is apache1+, apache2 is apache 2
[07:05] <Amaranth> james296: I see nothing in this file that says you tried to delete them
[07:05] <james296> didnt do anything
[07:06] <Amaranth> james296: did you uncheck them?
[07:06] <improper> I'm trying to install foo2zjs and it needs libc6 to be 2.5, I have tried apt-get upgrade libc6 but I can't find any newer libc6 packages
[07:06] <james296> wont let me
[07:06] <juano> Wimpog: go to /etc/dhcpd/dhcpd.conf and check your subnets
[07:06] <I_am_hollywood> anyone know how to remote desktop a win box?
[07:06] <Amaranth> james296: what do you mean it won't let you?
[07:06] <MasterShrek> I_am_hollywood get a program called tightVNC
[07:06] <brussel> flannel, thanks, so I guess I need to know which version I'm running before I ask it...
[07:06] <Amaranth> I_am_hollywood: Applications->Internet->Terminal Server Client
[07:06] <james296> I click the check box and the check mark wont go away
[07:06] <crimsun> improper: the real question is: Why are you trying to install foo2zjs that requires a newer version of libc6 than what your Ubuntu release ships with?
[07:06] <elyon225> Is there an English version for ubuntugames.org?
[07:06] <Amaranth> james296: you're forgetting my name again :)
[07:07] <Wimpog> Wicked cool guys!!! Thanks
[07:07] <Amaranth> james296: sounds like a gnome-menus bug :/
[07:07] <james296> SORRY! lol
[07:07] <Wimpog> juano: IT worked!
[07:07] <EnsignRedshirt> :)
[07:07] <Wimpog> thansk
[07:07] <james296> Amaranth, great...
[07:07] <juano> Wimpog: good :)
[07:07] <Amaranth> james296: you want wine and wine-wine to go away completely?
[07:07] <improper> crimsun, I've tried to install my printer hp laserjet 1018 with the foo2zjs that I got from apt-get install foo2zjs but it won't work
[07:07] <james296> Amaranth, nah just wine-wine
[07:07] <scotta316> What's wine-wine?
[07:08] <improper> crimsun, the help article I read says not to use the one that ships with ubuntu???
[07:08] <Amaranth> james296: actually this is still sounding like a WINE bug
[07:08] <james296> beats me, I pressed the Revert button to try to get default menus and it created that folder
[07:08] <root_> how long does it take to install Ubuntu 6.10?
[07:08] <Amaranth> james296: alacarte can't delete it because WINE is doing something goofy and gnome-menus and reacting to it the wrong way
[07:08] <Amaranth> james296: I don't think I can help you
[07:08] <DARKGuy> Anybody knows how to remove a package even when apt-get remove --purge does not work saying "the post-removal subprocess script returned the exit error code 2" ?
[07:08] <crimsun> improper: and instead use which one?
[07:08] <drewp> hi, i'm trying to recover files from an image of a broken disk (created with 'cat /dev/hda > image'). How do i get the right losetup offset to get the right partition of the disk? 'fdisk /dev/loop1' says "unable to seek"
[07:08] <james296> GAH, stupid wine!
[07:09] <Flannel> root_: less than an hour probably.  depends on your computer
[07:09] <Amaranth> Kimahri: FFX fan, eh?
[07:09] <improper> crimsun, the one from here: http://www.freestandards.org/~till/tmp/ubuntu/edgy/foo2zjs/binary/foo2zjs_20060625dfsg-2ubuntu2_i386.deb
[07:09] <Flannel> root_: and, for the record, IRCing fro the root account probably isn't the best idea
[07:09] <james296> I actually installed Steam on here as well, could that be the cause of the problem?
[07:10] <Amaranth> james296: nope
[07:10] <james296> GARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:10] <root_> Flannel:I'm using sysresccd without anything attached so it's ok :)
[07:10] <james296> fine
[07:10] <improper> crimsun, it's strange because the foo2zjs that I get from apt-get install is 20060625dfsg
[07:10] <Amaranth> james296: quick idea: run `rm -rf ~/.gnome ~/.kde`
[07:10] <james296> what can I do to refresh my desktop the way it was WITHOUT reformatting it?
[07:10] <Amaranth> james296: if you're using just gnome that should only remove the menus WINE added
[07:10] <crimsun> improper: is...what?
[07:11] <crimsun> improper: apt-cache policy foo2zjs |grep 500
[07:11] <Amaranth> james296: it'll remove all of them though, wine and wine-wine
[07:11] <james296> yeah it removed them, now I dont have the Steam folder...
[07:11] <improper> crimsun, 500 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages
[07:11] <improper>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages
[07:11] <Amaranth> james296: i told you it'd remove all of them
[07:12] <james296> yeah you did
[07:12] <crimsun> improper: and ``apt-cache policy foo2zjs|grep Candidate''?
[07:12] <james296> oh well no matter, I have Steam on my desktop anyway
[07:12] <brussel> How do you tell which version of ubuntu you are running with from the command line?
[07:12] <james296> lol
[07:12] <Amaranth> james296: phew
[07:12] <crimsun> brussel: lsb_release -r
[07:12] <james296> haha
[07:12] <brussel> crimsun, thanks
[07:12] <james296> thnx man
[07:12] <james296> appreciate it
[07:13] <I_am_hollywood> Anyone? anyone want to help me remote desktop a win box? please?
[07:13] <drewp> brussel: FYI, my 'cat /etc/issue' says 6.06.1 LTS, but lsb_release just says 6.06
[07:13] <improper> crimsun,  Candidate: 20060625dfsg-2
[07:13] <james296> does everyone here truly find this to be better than Windows?
[07:13] <james296> lol
[07:13] <james296> XP I mean
[07:13] <thoreauputic> I_am_hollywood: several people gave you hints already...
[07:13] <DARKGuy> I_am_hollywood: You can use VNC
[07:13] <root_> james296: ?
[07:14] <juano> brussel: gdm --version
[07:14] <Flannel> drewp, brussel, 6.06.1 is no different than 6.06 once you're installed.  .1 is just an updated release of ISOs
[07:14] <thoreauputic> james296: windows XP gives me nausea ;)
[07:14] <I_am_hollywood> see now Iknow what I can use I have the right software even Ijust don't get how to set t up
[07:14] <james296> LOL
[07:14] <DARKGuy> I_am_hollywood: What software do you have?
[07:14] <EnsignRedshirt> james296: Better than windows? Yup.  Of course, you are asking in a somewhat biased crowd.
[07:14] <james296> why because of the stupid blue screen of death?
[07:14] <crimsun> improper: hmm, and what's the error you receive when you attempt to dpkg -i that newer one? (use pastebin.ca)
[07:14] <thoreauputic> james296: because I feel unfree
[07:15] <crav> where might i find a list of supported hardware?
[07:15] <improper> crimsun, I'm not familiar with pastebin.ca
[07:15] <james296> but then again, some games dont run properly on Ubuntu as they would on XP...
[07:15] <juano> james296: comparing on a basis that this is free software it wins in many ways over windows
[07:15] <DARKGuy> The thing is about "feeling free"... yet in Linux you do the same thing you do in Windows... just, you don't pay for programs xD.
[07:15] <n2diy> ! hardware
[07:15] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[07:15] <I_am_hollywood> DARKGuy: I have remotedesktop client installed
[07:15] <jbroome> !pastebin | improper
[07:15] <ubotu> improper: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:16] <DARKGuy> I_am_hollywood: Ah, I've never used that one so I wouldn't know what to tell you :/ for remote-controlling I use VNC which I find way better so xD
[07:16] <thoreauputic> DARKGuy: no, you don't have to prove you aren't a criminal in Linux :)
[07:16] <n2diy> ?
[07:16] <PA|CodyLoco> OK I'm one step closer- I've determined that the Ubuntu loader is stopping at the following: ACPI: PCI Boot Bridge [PIC0]  (0000:00)
[07:16] <DARKGuy> thoreauputic: That's my point :P
[07:16] <james296> cuz I really wish someone could help me fix the way Halflife 2 is being displayed on here...
[07:16] <PA|CodyLoco> What the hell does that mean?
[07:16] <DARKGuy> james296: Tried #wine ?
[07:16] <james296> I hate the fact that it doesnt display anything at the intro
[07:16] <improper> jbroome, ubotu thanks!
[07:17] <n2diy> ! hardware
[07:17] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[07:17] <thoreauputic> DARKGuy: ah sorry - I read that as "you can do the same thing in Windows so waht's the issue" - misread :)
[07:17] <juano> james296: cedega is good for gaming
[07:17] <james296> yes but I dont have the Halflife 2 CD...
[07:17] <james296> CDs I mean
[07:17] <carutsu> I hope i don't get banned for this, i'm not releated to the proyect but i think is a great proyect... Sorry to make an anouncement guys, but we have a proyect that needs support: Ktoon, currently there are not many Flash-like aplications, so we need to support this one, please check out http://ktoon.toonka.com/, once again i apologize in advance but i'm trying that this message reach as much...
[07:17] <carutsu> ...people as possible (speacially those people who cares)
[07:17] <Wimpog> When I restart my PC, on the interfaces (eth1) does not show up. That is I have to manually "up" it and assign an IP. I would prefer to have that automatically done everytime, I restart. Anybody knows how???
[07:17] <james296> and I hear it is actually worse for gaming than Wine...
[07:18] <brussel> drewp, flannel, crimsun, juano: Thanks all
[07:18] <root_> Yay I have downloaded 6.10 :)
[07:18] <PA|CodyLoco> Anyone know what ACPI: PCI Boot Bridge [PIC0]  (0000:00) means and why my loader would hang there?
[07:18] <DARKGuy> thoreauputic: It's okay ^^
[07:18] <burepe> !sources
[07:18] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:18] <rredd4> using dapper, i am trying to uninstall xmms, it locks up on me.  I can see it in my menu, when i go to synaptic or add/remove, it does not show it installed.  yet it is in my sound & vid menu.  how can i remove it
[07:18] <improper> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/805/
[07:18] <carutsu> !PCI
[07:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about PCI - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:18] <riotkittie> . i googled for ubuntu and boot bridge and few of the results were in english. thats a first. :\
[07:18] <DARKGuy> james296: Depends on the game, and your video card drivers o.o and the cedega version too
[07:18] <burepe> !easysources
[07:18] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:18] <clearzen> does anyone have a suggestion for a good game in linux?
[07:18] <james296> yeah...
[07:18] <juano> james296: i dont think worse than wine, if you know how to use it
[07:18] <james296> well I have a GeforceFX 7300GS
[07:18] <riotkittie> rredd4 >> in a term "sudo apt-get remove xmms"
[07:18] <PA|CodyLoco> ACPI: PCI Boot Bridge [PIC0]  (0000:00)
[07:19] <root_> clearzen: tremulous, wesnoth, warsow, aao, penguinracer, bzflag, nexuiz etc.
[07:19] <DARKGuy> james296: for example WoW runs WAY better in Cedega than in Wine in my computer, yet UT:GOTY works better in Wine :P
[07:19] <EnsignRedshirt> james296: Hmmm... for state-of-the-art, hardcore gaming, unfortunately windows probably is better.
[07:19] <thoreauputic> rredd4: try   sudo dpkg --purge xmms  in a terminal
[07:19] <juano> PA|CodyLoco: how are you? did you fix the problem?
[07:19] <PA|CodyLoco> juano no but I'm a step closer
[07:19] <PA|CodyLoco> juano hows it goin?
[07:20] <juano> PA|CodyLoco: good for you :), good thanks... im trying out kubuntu :P
[07:20] <james296> does Ubuntu actually run in 32 bit by default or 24 bit?
[07:20] <PA|CodyLoco> juano I got Kubuntu to run on a real slow machine, it's pretty cool
[07:20] <thoreauputic> james296: huh?
[07:20] <rredd4> thoreauputic dpkg - warning: while removing xmms, directory `/usr/share/applications' not empty so not removed.
[07:21] <PA|CodyLoco> but juano I found out my loader is hanging here: ACPI: PCI Boot Bridge [PIC0]  (0000:00)
[07:21] <clearzen> james296:  Nothing I know of runs 24 bit
[07:21] <clearzen> james296: it is 32 or 64
[07:21] <juano> PA|CodyLoco: ahh.. i see
[07:21] <thoreauputic> james296: oh you mean display - the extra 8 bits are there - just a diff terminology
[07:21] <DARKGuy> clearzen: or 16 ;)
[07:21] <rredd4> riotkittie tried that, didn't work
[07:21] <james296> OHHH I see...
[07:21] <james296> ok..
[07:21] <juano> PA|CodyLoco: ill search some lets see if we get lucky
[07:21] <james296> why is it a diff terminology?
[07:22] <thoreauputic> rredd4: did you try  sudo dpkg --purge xmms ?
[07:22] <rredd4> yes
[07:22] <clearzen> DARKGuy: lol, I forgot about that. But you are right
[07:22] <thoreauputic> james296: I forget the setails, but the  extra 8 bits have something to do with alpha channels IIRC
[07:22] <rredd4> "sudo dpkg --purge xmms"  is what i typed
[07:22] <DARKGuy> clearzen: lol, the good ol' times :p
[07:22] <thoreauputic> s/setails/details
[07:22] <james296> ok..
[07:22] <james296> lol
[07:23] <thoreauputic> rredd4: and what happened ?
[07:23] <rredd4> thoreauputic got this message   dpkg - warning: while removing xmms, directory `/usr/share/applications' not empty so not removed.
[07:23] <thoreauputic> rredd4: that's OK - is xmms still in the menu?
[07:24] <rredd4> thoreauputic  ohh no
[07:24] <rredd4> !!
[07:24] <rredd4> i will reinstall
[07:24] <rredd4> ty
[07:24] <thoreauputic> rredd4: /usr/share/applications has a *lot* of stuff in it :)
[07:24] <improper> crimsun, apparently the printer requires that firware be loaded every time the printer starts up. I don't quite understand the situation, I just want to print my airline ticket :)
[07:24] <thoreauputic> rredd4: reinstall what?
[07:24] <rredd4> thoreauputic  xmms
[07:25] <rredd4> thoreauputic  using streamtuner
[07:25] <riotkittie> rredd4 >> if you continue to have issues with xmms, you may want to try beep-media-player instead
[07:25] <thoreauputic> rredd4: do you know about beep-media-player ? Like xmms only prettier....
[07:25] <riotkittie> it will need to be downloaded but its in the repos
[07:25] <improper> crimsun, bought this new printer today as my HP 2000C ran out of ink and it was cheaper to buy a new laser than replace the ink in the old one :(
[07:25] <rredd4> thoreauputic  it likes xmms... will beep media player work with streamtuner?
[07:25] <riotkittie> thoreauputic, get out of my head! :P
[07:25] <thoreauputic> rredd4: you can substitute beep for xmms in streamtuner
[07:25] <rredd4> thoreauputic  ok  ty!!
[07:26] <mena> the kde apps will appear in the ubuntu apps menu after installing kubunutu throw ubuntu
[07:26] <mena> or not
[07:26] <robert_> wtf
[07:26] <robert_> my network is slower than a snail
[07:26] <thoreauputic> rredd4: in streamtuner, edit -> preferences -> put beep-media-player in place of xmms
[07:26] <riotkittie> mena >> appear in the gnome menu?
[07:27] <rredd4> thoreauputic  great   !!
[07:27] <rredd4> i will
[07:27] <mena> riotkittie, the kubunutu apps
[07:27] <thoreauputic> rredd4: beep also can use xmms skins, or even winamp skins
[07:27] <mena> robert_, mybe the ipv6 is the reason ask some one about it
[07:27] <riotkittie> i know, mena but. eh never mind. some if not all kde apps will appear in the gnome menus
[07:27] <robert_> I should be getting ~2-3mb/sec- but it always slows down to ~8kb/sec- is this a linux problem?
[07:28] <clearzen> So, I am having trouble getting alias commands to work properly. In what file do I need to define the alias commands so that I can use them from the terminal?
[07:28] <Wimpog> "DHCP server failed to start, check syslog for diagnostics" WHICH "syslog" show I check?
[07:28] <thoreauputic> robert_: unlikely since I'm getting ~1.3 MB /sec here :)
[07:28] <mena> riotkittie, No I would that any apps of kde dont appear in gnome do u what i mean
[07:28] <robert_> bah
[07:28] <robert_> my router is screwing me
[07:28] <robert_> heh
[07:28] <rredd4> thoreauputic  cool
[07:28] <alfath> hey als pls
[07:29] <rredd4> thoreauputic  its almost done installing!
[07:29] <mena> robert_ !ipv6
[07:29] <riotkittie> mena > im not sure if theres a way to stop them from intermingling. i imagine there is httho
[07:29] <thoreauputic> rredd4: nice change from dialup to adsl2+ "_
[07:29] <thoreauputic> oops
[07:29] <Wimpog> I get this error message: "DHCP server failed to start, check syslog for diagnostics" WHICH "syslog" should I check?
[07:29] <rredd4> thoreauputic  using cable
[07:29] <thoreauputic> sorry that was for robert_
[07:29] <mena> riotkittie, okay
[07:29] <robert_> heh
[07:29] <rredd4> thoreauputic lol
[07:29] <Amaranth> Wimpog: /var/log/syslog
[07:30] <riotkittie> clearzen, >> hold a sec
[07:30] <Wimpog> Amaranth: Thanks
[07:30] <clearzen> riotkittie: ok
[07:30] <mena> robert_, Maybe is the ipv6 wich its slowing dowen the conection some times to make sure ask some one
[07:31] <robert_> mena- I use ipv4, though
[07:31] <DARKGuy> Okay so my xorg.conf in the InputDevice section for the keyboard it has:  Option          "XkbOptions"    "lv3:ralt_switch" . Does that affects how I can't use the Control key? (for example in Konqueror, Control key should work like in Windows, for selecting various files, and in Tibia it should work for some ingame features, and it doesn't). Is there a way to change that so it works correctly?
[07:31] <riotkittie> clearzen, "sudo nano .bashrc"    ...  go down towards the bottom of the file and look for the portion that says #Alias definitions
[07:31] <riotkittie> clearzen, and make sure those lines are NOT commented out
[07:32] <mena> robert_, okay .....i dont know so much but i am telling about the problem wich was facing me
[07:32] <riotkittie> then "touch .bash_aliases && nano .bash_aliases"   ... or whatever editor you prefer
[07:32] <rredd4_> thoreauputic  it won't open, shouldn't have to reboot?
[07:32] <Mementh> howdy all... newbie here.. where can i find a latest release of the ubuntu DVD ISO on a torrent
[07:33] <rredd4_> thoreauputic  there were no problems with install
[07:33] <thoreauputic> rredd4: no, you don't need to reboot
[07:33] <clearzen> riotkittie: That is what I thought but whenever I had added my alias commands they did not work. But I never used the touch command afterwards
[07:33] <riotkittie> clearzen, once you add aliases to that file and save it, you may need to "source .bash_alias"
[07:33] <thoreauputic> rredd4: beep should start from the menu - if not, try typing beep-media-player in a terminal
[07:33] <riotkittie> you dont need to use touch. touch just creates it.
[07:33] <aztracker1> okay, after 8 monhs in ubuntu, I think I am going back to windows... may try linux again in 2008.
[07:33] <mena> Bye All God Bless You And thanks For helping Me Today To Every One....Bye
[07:34] <riotkittie> aztracker1, why ya going back to win?
[07:34] <aztracker1> bye all, thanks to those who have been huge help in here..
[07:34] <Mementh> aztracker1 why?
[07:34] <clearzen> riotkittie: ok, thank you. That is going to save me a lot of time
[07:34] <thoreauputic> rredd4: any luck?
[07:34] <rredd4> thoreauputic  no
[07:34] <aztracker1> riotkittie, part of it, is that I am working at home, and the work stuff is in windows, the other part, is after today, I've spent vastly more time getting things to work, than I spent the rest of my lifetime in windows.
[07:34] <thoreauputic> rredd4: how did you install it? From synaptic?
[07:35] <rredd4> thoreauputic apt-get
[07:35] <Mementh> aztracker1 ouch..
[07:35] <Mementh> newbie here.. where can i find a latest release of the ubuntu DVD ISO on a torrent
[07:35] <Ojos_rojos> 8////////////////D
[07:35] <rredd4> thoreauputic  terminal is not doing anything
[07:35] <thoreauputic> rredd4: what does dpkg -l beep-media-player  say ?
[07:35] <riotkittie> aztracker1, ah :(
[07:35] <robert_> is there some way I can tune my network settings?
[07:36] <aztracker1> riotkittie, I don't knock it too much, I have a few clients I switched to it.. it just doesn't suit my needs..
[07:36] <riotkittie> Mementh, try torrentspy.com
[07:36] <thoreauputic> rredd4: if it installed the line shold start with ii
[07:36] <clearzen> robert_: To do what?
[07:36] <Ojos_rojos> ()()//////////D
[07:36] <thoreauputic> Ojos_rojos: ?
[07:36] <robert_> clearzen- go...faster?
[07:36] <rredd4> thoreauputic it does start with ii
[07:36] <riotkittie> aztracker1, understandable.
[07:36] <Amaranth> thoreauputic: that's all he has done since joining
[07:37] <rredd4> thoreauputic 0.9.7.1
[07:37] <thoreauputic> rredd4: ok what happens if you type  /usr/bin/beep-<tab> <enter> ?
[07:37] <clearzen> robert_: Is it always slow or only when uploading/downloading?
[07:37] <robert_> clearzen- my scp from box to box inside my network CRAWLS
[07:37] <riotkittie> brb
[07:37] <robert_> it starts at 100k/sec, and dwindles down to under 20k/sec
[07:37] <Mementh> is 6.10 a beta/almost done? or is it fully usable?
[07:37] <rredd4> thoreauputic nothing
[07:38] <thoreauputic> rredd4: erm, that's impossible
[07:38] <clearzen> robert_: do you have to forward ports in the firewall for your internal LAN?
[07:38] <riotkittie> Mementh, 6.10 is the current stable release
[07:38] <thoreauputic> rredd4: did it tab complet?
[07:38] <thoreauputic> *complete
[07:38] <clearzen> I had to but I'm using m0n0wall
[07:38] <rredd4> thoreauputic   typed this  /usr/bin/beep-media-player
[07:38] <robert_> clearzen- I don't run an internal firewall
[07:38] <charle97> mementh, 6.10 was released 2 months ago
[07:39] <clearzen> robert_:what kind of speeds do you get?
[07:39] <thoreauputic> rredd4: it should either say "command not found" or start ...
[07:39] <robert_> it hangs around 8-14k/sec
[07:39] <robert_> and by hangs, I mean stays :P
[07:39] <rredd4> thoreauputic i have to do a contrl z
[07:39] <clearzen> robert_: ouch, are they both wired connections?
[07:39] <thoreauputic> rredd4: why?
[07:39] <robert_> all of them are
[07:39] <imbecile> what do you guys reccomend for full disk encryption?
[07:39] <robert_> the only thing I can see affecting it
[07:40] <Mementh> riotkittie tks :) my windows "server" i was using for personal website died (for some reason PHP stopped working, tried updating and updating apache.. but nothing.... ) so i went to a hosted site while i test this out
[07:40] <thoreauputic> rredd4: that just stops it in its trcks..
[07:40] <clearzen> robert_: Have you assigned static ip addresses?
[07:40] <thoreauputic> *tracks
[07:40] <robert_> all of the boxes on my network get static IPs
[07:40] <rredd4> thoreauputic because the program is not opening... and the cursor is hung
[07:40] <thoreauputic> rredd4: what does  pidof beep-media-player  say ?
[07:40] <clearzen> robert_:what kind of router is it?
[07:40] <robert_> belkin
[07:41] <rredd4> thoreauputic 7564 7513 7432 7394 7322 7314 7306 7298
[07:41] <thoreauputic> rredd4:  killall beep-media-player
[07:41] <thoreauputic> rredd4: then try again
[07:41] <riotkittie> you have 8 instances of beep running?
[07:41] <robert_> wtf lmao
[07:41] <clearzen> are the 2 machines more than 300ft apart? Also, is there multiple computers running on the same network segment?
[07:42] <robert_> 8 beep instances/
[07:42] <rredd4> thoreauputic did killall... got this   7564 7513 7432
[07:42] <robert_> no
[07:42] <robert_> yes
[07:42] <rredd4> with pidof...
[07:42] <robert_> er
[07:42] <robert_> no, yes
[07:42] <robert_> all separated by a switch
[07:42] <burepe> !easysources
[07:42] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:42] <robert_> which goes around 40ft behind a bathtub in the next room to the router
[07:42] <thoreauputic> rredd4: erm, try  sudo killall beep-media-player
[07:43] <clearzen> robert_: oh, it shouldn't matter that much if you have a switch. How many pc's though?
[07:43] <thoreauputic> rredd4: you must have done something creative to get to this point...
[07:43] <thoreauputic> ;)
[07:43] <robert_> atm, 3 comps
[07:43] <maddash> where's h3xis
[07:43] <imbecile> what should i use for full disk encryption?
[07:43] <rredd4> thoreauputic lol  ??
[07:43] <robert_> and one in the other room
[07:43] <robert_> yeah
[07:43] <robert_> I know
[07:43] <BlenderKitty> hey, does the xubuntu live cd include gparted or qtparted?
[07:44] <h3xis> maddash, im here
[07:44] <robert_> the switch should say, 'hey, this is going here! *redirect*
[07:44] <robert_> er
[07:44] <robert_> the switch should say, 'hey, this is going here! *redirect*'
[07:44] <robert_> heh
[07:44] <thoreauputic> rredd4: there's no normal way to end up with 8 instances of beep, 3 unkillable
[07:44] <rredd4> thoreauputic what should i see with the pidof cmd?
[07:44] <thoreauputic> BlenderKitty: gparted IIRC
[07:44] <BlenderKitty> ?
[07:44] <thoreauputic> rredd4: nothing - after the killall
[07:44] <riotkittie> gparted
[07:44] <james296> I wonder how much better Feisty Fawn will be than Edgy Eft...
[07:44] <rredd4> i see 3
[07:44] <Peebo> ps auw |grep beep                killall -9 beep
[07:44] <BlenderKitty> ok
[07:44] <thoreauputic> rredd4: pidof tells you the process number
[07:44] <rredd4> let me reboot
[07:44] <clearzen> robert_: from the source machine open a terminal and ping the destination and tell me what the response time is, if you can.
[07:45] <maddash> yay h3xis
[07:45] <BlenderKitty> is anyone running xubuntu or ubuntu on a newish thinkpad?
[07:45] <robert_> I get less than 1ms pingtime
[07:45] <BlenderKitty> here, that is?
[07:45] <h3xis> XD
[07:45] <robert_> robert_@sandbox ~ $ ping panther
[07:45] <robert_> PING panther.r-butler.net (10.0.0.20) 56(84) bytes of data.
[07:45] <robert_> 64 bytes from panther.r-butler.net (10.0.0.20): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.127 m
[07:45] <maddash> blenderkitty: what's up?
[07:45] <rredd4> thoreauputic brb rebooting..
[07:45] <riotkittie> not i, says the owner of the dell latitude
[07:45] <maddash> h3xis brightens my night...
[07:45] <thoreauputic> rredd4: why?
[07:45] <h3xis> ^^
[07:45] <clearzen> do you get the same kind of results with rsync as well?
[07:45] <sleeper> What is the best distro?
[07:45] <h3xis> sleeper, that's a hard one. it's a tie between debian and slackware
[07:46] <maddash> sleeper: the best distro is windows. 98.
[07:46] <h3xis> ;)
[07:46] <rredd4> thoreauputic still shows 3 different numbers with pidof
[07:46] <thoreauputic> rredd4: rebooting is pointless - you need to kill the processes
[07:46] <riotkittie> rredd4, kill them manually
[07:46] <riotkittie> kill -9 <pid>
[07:46] <thoreauputic> rredd4: *sigh*  kill -9 <process numbers>
[07:46] <Peebo> sleeper, Ubuntu rules.....
[07:46] <sleeper> from what I hear, openSUSE, ubuntu and Slackware
[07:46] <BlenderKitty> maddash: I want to maintain my current windows install on its own partition, install xubuntu (or maybe opensuse) on a partition, then create a fat32 partition for sharing between my windows and linux partition. So 3 partitions in all.
[07:46] <clearzen> robert_: try restarting your networking I believe the command is sudo /etc/init.d/network restart
[07:46] <riotkittie> rebooting is the windows way <g>
[07:47] <thoreauputic> rredd4: use sudo if that doesn't work either
[07:47] <maddash> blenderkitty: definitely. in fact, that's exactly what I did when I was using ubuntu.
[07:47] <thoreauputic> rredd4: although it should blast them out of exitence really...
[07:47] <rredd4> thoreauputic all killed!
[07:47] <thoreauputic> rredd4: OK try starting it again now
[07:47] <phroggy> ok, so, I've got an old Dell laptop, just did a clean install of Ubuntu 6, and I've got two problems:  1) when the screen resolution doesn't match the actual resolution of the LCD, everything is garbled and I can only see part of the image, some parts are repeated, etc.  2) X is running at 640x480 and I can't change it.
[07:47] <imbecile> bah, im gonna go make relay prank calls
[07:47] <BlenderKitty> maddash: cool, so you had no problems on your thinkpad?
[07:47] <maddash> blenderkitty: just defrag your ntfs partition, and make sure all those blue lines in the defragmenter are compact....otherwise, when you resize the ntfs partition using ubuntu's partitioner, you could lose some files.
[07:48] <phroggy> I'm happy to ignore problem #1 if I can fix problem #2.
[07:48] <BlenderKitty> maddash: ok
[07:48] <robert_> hm
[07:48] <riotkittie> win98 is sweet. especially the first edition
[07:48] <rredd4> thoreauputic sos
[07:48] <maddash> blenderkitty: none, just that it was slow as hell.
[07:48] <Fireal> Hello all, Quick Question:  Is the firewall always on or do I have to run firestarter for the rules to be in effect?  i.e. is firestarter just to edit rules or to edit AND enforce them?
[07:48] <thoreauputic> rredd4: and don't ctrl-z it
[07:48] <BlenderKitty> maddash: the install?
[07:48] <rredd4> k
[07:48] <thoreauputic> rredd4: ?
[07:48] <Mementh> riotkittie Is it easy to setup a directory share for windows (IE i want to be able to let windows on another computer via a network read and write to a folder)
[07:48] <phroggy> the error being logged is: Not using mode "1400x1050" (no mode of this name)
[07:48] <maddash> h3xis: what's your `uname -a` ?
[07:48] <rredd4> thoreauputic no cntrl z
[07:48] <maddash> blenderkitty: huh?
[07:48] <thoreauputic> rredd4: so does it start or not?
[07:48] <rredd4> thoreauputic not working
[07:48] <BlenderKitty> maddash: the install was slow or linux was slow?
[07:49] <maddash> blenderkitty: oh, ...the latter
[07:49] <thoreauputic> rredd4: weird
[07:49] <rredd4> thoreauputic yeah
[07:49] <thoreauputic> rredd4: was xmms working?
[07:49] <maddash> blenderkitty: install takes **reasonably long**
[07:49] <rredd4> thoreauputic was locking up
[07:49] <thoreauputic> rredd4: does any other sound app work?
[07:49] <h3xis> maddash, i'm not on my debian box atm. but it's 2.6.19.1 with SMP
[07:49] <BlenderKitty> maddash: linux was slow on a thinkpad? damn
[07:49] <BlenderKitty> maddash: thats discouraging!
[07:49] <maddash> blenderkitty: depends on your cpu.
[07:49] <thoreauputic> rredd4: what does  pidof esd say ?
[07:50] <rredd4> thoreauputic kaffeine dies
[07:50] <h3xis> BlenderKitty, what's this about linux being slow on a thinkpad?
[07:50] <thoreauputic> rredd4: ^^^
[07:50] <maddash> blenderkitty: I used a 2ghz t43.
[07:50] <BlenderKitty> maddash: I have a core 2 duo
[07:50] <riotkittie> Mementh, i'm not really sure because i  only write from my ubuntu laptop to the xp box. IF you go to the forums and search for "SAMBA HOW-TO" i think an easy tutorial will pop up
[07:50] <BlenderKitty> maddash: mines 2ghz
[07:50] <h3xis> maddash, omfg j00 nub i have a t60
[07:50] <rredd4> thoreauputic show one set of #'s
[07:50] <thoreauputic> rredd4: killall esd
[07:50] <maddash> blenderkitty: just cut down w/e you don't need once you've installed. also, kill off gnome....use xfce4
[07:50] <burepe> !mp3
[07:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:50] <Mementh> riotkittie so you don't know if file shareing is easy the other way around
[07:50] <BlenderKitty> h3xis: I have a z61t
[07:50] <riotkittie> i have read some posts on at the forums and it seems fairly easy to set up
[07:50] <thoreauputic> rredd4: that is likely to be the problem
[07:50] <maddash> h3xis: :p
[07:50] <h3xis> haha
[07:50] <h3xis> 1.83ghz core duo
[07:51] <h3xis> that's right
[07:51] <riotkittie> then again, easy is a relative term
[07:51] <rredd4> thoreauputic did killall esd... try again?
[07:51] <BlenderKitty> h3xis: so is linux slow on your thinkpad?
[07:51] <h3xis> BlenderKitty, no
[07:51] <thoreauputic> rredd4: make sure esd is no longer running first
[07:51] <Fireal> Is the firewall always on or do I have to run firestarter for the rules to be in effect?  i.e. is firestarter just to edit rules or to edit AND enforce them?
[07:51] <thoreauputic> rredd4: pidof
[07:51] <thoreauputic> rredd4: then try again I guess
[07:51] <h3xis> Fireal, it's always on
[07:51] <Fireal> thanks
[07:52] <imbecile> what should i use for full disk encryption?
[07:52] <maddash> blenderkitty: just go try it. words can' convey the full experience. if you don't like it, then just delete it, and restore your windows partition to its original size using ubuntu's partitioner (kinda ironic there, isn't it?)
[07:52] <thoreauputic> Fireal: firestarter is just a front end
[07:52] <maddash> imbecile: water. freezer. gravity.
[07:52] <thoreauputic> Fireal: to iptables
[07:52] <riotkittie> BlenderKitty, linux is rarely slow on anything ;p
[07:52] <BlenderKitty> maddash: ok, thanks for the info
[07:52] <mneptok> BlenderKitty: the Thinkpads are easily the most common laptop among Canonical employees, if you care.
[07:52] <thoreauputic> rredd4: ?
[07:52] <BlenderKitty> mneptok: I do care. good to know.
[07:52] <Fireal> okey dokey, thought so...thanks
[07:53] <maddash> h3xis: how's the fan noise for the t60? I heard she's a real screamer.
[07:53] <riotkittie> i have a slack 9 install on a 3xxmhz amd k-6
[07:53] <maddash> blenderkitty: np.
[07:53] <rredd4> thoreauputic same.. same
[07:53] <rredd4> thoreauputic not sure what is going on.
[07:53] <BlenderKitty> my z61t core 2 duo (2ghz) runs really quiet
[07:53] <BlenderKitty> can't even hear the fan
[07:53] <h3xis> maddash, if it's running on the battery the fan doesnt cut on (or unless cpu intensive stuff kicks in) but when it has AC in the fan is on and it's not too loud
[07:53] <thoreauputic> rredd4: so let me get this straight - you can't play music at all, right?
[07:53] <BlenderKitty> well, barely. and I mean BARELY
[07:54] <rredd4> thoreauputic i can use kafeine
[07:54] <BlenderKitty> The T60 comes in widescreen now!
[07:54] <maddash> h3xis - I think you could control the cpufreq, even when it's in ac mode...
[07:54] <rredd4> thoreauputic i need to go... ty for your help..
[07:54] <h3xis> maddash, yeah, you can
[07:54] <thoreauputic> rredd4: what are you trying to play ? mp3 ?
[07:54] <maddash> blenderkitty: z61's are overrated. :P
[07:55] <maddash> h3xis: what's your native res? 1400x1050?
[07:55] <mneptok> i just wish i could rearrange the GD keys on this T60
[07:55] <h3xis> maddash, 1024x768
[07:55] <rredd4> thoreauputic i need to go... have to go to work
[07:55] <rredd4> thoreauputic thank you
[07:55] <rredd4> poof
[07:55] <BlenderKitty> maddash: how so? sure they're not T's.
[07:55] <thoreauputic> rredd4: OK - good luck :)
[07:55] <maddash> h3xis: for your t60? can't go higher than that, even in windows? how big's your screen?
[07:55] <riotkittie> thoreauputic has the patience of a saint
[07:55] <thoreauputic> riotkittie: heh - not really
[07:55] <h3xis> maddash, 15 inch. im pretty sure it wont go higher. if i make it go any higher the picture extends beyond the LCD
[07:56] <h3xis> maddash, even when i had windows
[07:56] <maddash> h3xis: er. that's weird. my t43 is on sxga+...1400x1050...
[07:56] <thoreauputic> riotkittie: weird that beep would not run - I have never seen that although esd can make it hang
[07:56] <maddash> blenderkitty: Z:T as liza minelli:mandy moore...
[07:56] <h3xis> maddash, yeah, my model is a 2007-57u and it's kind of retarded. the 15 inch screens have a fixed res of 1024x768 but it doesnt bother me
[07:56] <BlenderKitty> maddash: are you talking about beauty?
[07:57] <h3xis> haha mandy moore is a t60
[07:57] <h3xis> buahahaha
[07:57] <maddash> h3xis: ow. if you still have your warranty, I think you could upgrade the lcd panel.
[07:57] <h3xis> maddash, it's got 4 year warranty on it. what do you mean upgrade it?
[07:57] <maddash> blenderkitty: no, I'm talking about sex.
[07:57] <BlenderKitty> maddash: you have sex with your thinkpad?
[07:58] <BlenderKitty> I don't think the ultrabay was intended for that purpose.
[07:58] <maddash> h3xis: buy another lcd panel with higher res, and have the ibm (or lenovo?) guys put it in for you...any dmg would be covered by the warranty.
[07:58] <h3xis> BlenderKitty, i do all the time
[07:58] <theflyingfool> does anyone know why the new nvidia driver from their site wont work for me, but if i use the glx, not legacy from the repos it works
[07:58] <maddash> blenderkitty: OW.
[07:58] <riotkittie> nite all
[07:58] <h3xis> maddash, hm i didnt know you could do that
[07:58] <BlenderKitty> so the T60, is she heavy?
[07:58] <maddash> blenderkitty: I was speaking metaphorically...
[07:59] <h3xis> not heavy
[07:59] <BlenderKitty> maddash: I know you can mount drives and all, but not literally
[07:59] <maddash> h3xis: yeah. do you get ibm reps when calling tech support?
[07:59] <h3xis> maddash, never needed tech support
[07:59] <maddash> blenderkitty: ew. god. you're even better (or worse?) than I am.
[07:59] <rredd4> thoreauputic  i rebooted and it works now!!   ty  gotta go
[07:59] <DARKGuy> What's the line to put in the kernel boot for using a vga mode 0156 132x60 ?
[08:00] <thoreauputic> rredd4: and you never diagnosed the problem - oh well :)
[08:00] <maddash> h3xis: chk 'em out. I got free recovery cds by bugging 'em/...
[08:00] <BlenderKitty> mwahaha
[08:00] <BlenderKitty> ok, gonna go try this dual boot thing. peace out
[08:00] <Hmmmm> guys im facing some crazy issues with my microphone. it stops working all of a sudden, until the next reboot
[08:00] <improper> crimsun, I got it to work. The printer needs firmware downloaded to it so I got the firmware through foo2zjs and forced it into the printer "cat /usr/share/foo2zjs/firmware/sihp1018.dl >  /dev/usb/lp0". That made it work
[08:00] <maddash> h3xis: oh, and a free keyboard panel.
[08:00] <h3xis> omfg
[08:00] <h3xis> you did
[08:01] <h3xis> maddash, howd you score that
[08:01] <theflyingfool> does anyone know what the latest driver is for a  GeForce4 MX 440
[08:02] <maddash> h3xis: "I'm a student, college rapes your wallet, I'm so poor, plz plz help! I can't type up my paper b/c my kbd is all clacky and my roommate's asleep and if I clack too much he'll kill me!"
[08:02] <improper> crimsun, I'll have to do that every time I start the printer until I firgure out how to do the actual fix but at least I can print
[08:03] <maddash> h3xis: well, they weren't all lies...the buttons you would use with the trackpoint were unusually clacky, and the trackpoint would move the cursor by itself...
[08:03] <h3xis> maddash, i see. when i type i dont act like i have tourettes, but my room mate has a t60p and he bangs on his keys and puts an emphasis on his space bar
[08:03] <DARKGuy> Ow
[08:03] <h3xis> maddash, my trackpoint moves the cursos by itself if i press too hard on it
[08:03] <ToHellWithGA> can i mount a real windows installation through vmware in ubuntu?
[08:03] <maddash> h3xis: LOL my uncle always tries to teach the enter key a lesson...
[08:03] <evilgold> theflyingfool, just use the ones in the repository
[08:03] <h3xis> haha
[08:04] <james296> what is wrong with the doc.gwos.org site?
[08:04] <maddash> h3xis: yeah. that's a problem. call 'em about it. tell 'em you love your t60 so much you won't give it to them to repair. they probably would send you a replacement.
[08:04] <maddash> h3xis: just be civil. and persistent. and pray that the techie is in a good mood.
[08:04] <mena> why ubuntu dosent supprot many screen resolution!!!!!????
[08:04] <h3xis> maddash, haha alright
[08:04] <maddash> mena: what's the problem? specifically.
[08:04] <jbroome> !resolution | mena
[08:04] <ubotu> mena: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:04] <evilgold> mena, ubuntu supports every screen resolution
[08:05] <mena> maddash, i dont the resolution chnged without any intrupting from me
[08:05] <DARKGuy> What's the line to put in the kernel boot for using a vga mode 0156 132x60 ?
[08:05] <maddash> mena: huh?? are you running ubuntu right now?
[08:05] <james296> well?
[08:05] <mena> maddash, yes
[08:06] <maddash> mena: fire up cmdline, type in "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[08:06] <maddash> mena: no wait...
[08:06] <mena> maddash, okay
[08:06] <mena> maddash, oka
[08:06] <theflyingfool> what room should i go to for help with beryl
[08:06] <FunnyLookinHat> theflyingfool, ubuntu-xgl
[08:06] <maddash> mena: first fire up cmd line, type in "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.super.old"
[08:07] <mena> maddash, then
[08:07] <maddash> mena: then do the "sudo dpkg-rconf" thing I told you above
[08:08] <burepe> This guy I am helping is getting crazy slow downloads from "apt-get update" and any aptget installs. Any one know why? He says that he has dsl and it is working fine
[08:08] <mena> maddash, okay
[08:08] <maddash> mena: just go thru the questions...you'll eventually get one that asks you for resolutions that you want X to support.
[08:08] <dirkson> burepe, Any chance his DSL is piped through a router?
[08:09] <mena> maddash, ok
[08:09] <maddash> mena: tell me if you can't answer a question.
[08:09] <mena> maddash, yes..... what is i740
[08:10] <maddash> mena: which question are you on? select your driver?
[08:11] <burepe> dirkson: he has another windows comp that is behind the router too though
[08:11] <mena> maddash, yes x server driver
[08:11] <maddash> mena: what's listed there? what's your vid card?
[08:11] <rrittenhouse> I installed edgy and I want to remove graphical all together, what packages should I remove?
[08:11] <maddash> mena: pick the one that most accurately describes your card
[08:11] <DARKGuy> What's the line to put in the kernel boot for using a vga mode 0156 132x60 ?
[08:11] <rrittenhouse> not sure if there was a package that would take the rest out or not
[08:11] <maddash> mena: or just press "enter"...
[08:12] <mena> maddash. okay
[08:12] <mena> maddash, ok
[08:12] <dirkson> burepe, Get him to try a direct connection from the DSL modem to the ubuntu-comp. If that fixes it, it's a port forwarding issue; see if he can't get his router to enable upnp, or find/forward the ports apt-get might be using.
[08:14] <mena> maddash, i press enter for all
[08:14] <mena> maddash. ^_^
[08:14] <maddash> mena: even for the part that asks you for the resolution?
[08:15] <mena> no i change it
[08:15] <maddash> mena: ok.
[08:15] <mena> ok thanks
[08:15] <leo0> hi.
[08:15] <maddash> mena: either reboot, or just ctrl+alt+backspace...
[08:15] <maddash> mena: if you can't start back to the gui, then do this:
[08:15] <pradalover> Quick!!!!!!!!!!! I need registration key for windows XP Pro
[08:15] <mena> maddash, okay
[08:15] <leo0> anyone know how to add a mobile number to gaim for aim?
[08:16] <h3xis> pradalover, just sit there and come up with a combination until it works
[08:16] <maddash> mena: "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.super.old /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and reboot
[08:16] <ToHellWithGA> leo0: add a buddy with +1##########
[08:16] <maddash> LOL h3xis
[08:16] <h3xis> ^^
[08:16] <mena> maddash, okay i will rebot now brb
[08:16] <ToHellWithGA> leo0: assuming that's a US number where ########## is the full 10 digit number with area code
[08:16] <maddash> pradalover: why can't you buy xp pro? how'd you get it anyway? torrent?
[08:16] <leo0> i tried that but it just adds as if the number were a screen name and doesnt appear as a mobile . any clue why? tohellwithga ?
[08:17] <Znortfl> Hello people, yesterday started a backup process of simplebackup in the background and ended it later on. Ever since, my system CPU usage keeps peaking which is very annoying. I closed down all notneeded processes but it still keeps peaking. Any suggestions?
[08:17] <ToHellWithGA> it works though
[08:17] <ToHellWithGA> leo0: you did it with the leading +?
[08:17] <leo0> yes
[08:17] <maddash> znortfl: top
[08:17] <maddash> znortfl: `sudo top`
[08:17] <ToHellWithGA> Znortfl: renice
[08:17] <pradalover> No! my sister had the idiot IT guy at work burn it
[08:17] <h3xis> the idiot IT guy.
[08:18] <pradalover> and the retard wrote the key down wrong
[08:18] <h3xis> pradalover, what have you been using before xp?
[08:18] <ToHellWithGA> Znortfl: no need to use sudo with top, but top will list your processes running from highest to lowest CPU usage.  renice can change the niceness (priority) of that annoying one
[08:18] <pradalover> regular xp
[08:18] <Znortfl> maddash, done that. I see that a program called "apt-index-watch" keeps jumping up and down. Is it ok to kill it
[08:18] <maddash> znortfl: why not?
[08:19] <ToHellWithGA> Znortfl: ps -A |grep apt-index-watch
[08:19] <maddash> znortfl: go own it. just remember to get the process id
[08:19] <Znortfl> maddash, I dunno maybe I throw something over
[08:19] <maddash> znortfl: ps aux | grep -i apt
[08:19] <maddash> tohellwithga: argh!!! curses!!
[08:19] <ToHellWithGA> Znortfl: find the process id using that command i just sent, then do "renice +5 pid"
[08:19] <maddash> znortfl: no, do `sudo kill [proccess id] `
[08:20] <Znortfl> lol
[08:20] <ToHellWithGA> maddash: he wants it to go though
[08:20] <maddash> tohellwithga: "go"?
[08:20] <Mementh> is ubuntu supposed to have purple lines runnind downd the screen when booting up
[08:20] <ToHellWithGA> Znortfl: you want it to continue backing up but it's taking a long time, right?
[08:20] <VoltageX> any ideas how to get an Avermedia Hybrid DVB card (saa7133 chipset) working in ubuntu?
[08:20] <andrew800> hey guys, im installing ubuntu tonight, if i want to install on a usb hard drive, where does the bootloader go if i want to put it on that usb hard drive (e.g hd0)?
[08:20] <maddash> tohellwithga: sizeof (your.humor) > 0?
[08:20] <Znortfl> No, I want it to stop. It's useless now anyway because I stopped the gzip process earlier
[08:20] <Mementh> is ubuntu supposed to have purple lines runnind downd the screen when booting up or is it my old weird built in video
[08:21] <maddash> znortfl, tohellwithga: told you. use my kill cmd.
[08:21] <Znortfl> hehe okay
[08:21] <Dormot_> hello
[08:21] <maddash> tohellwithga: :P
[08:21] <elyon225> Hey, guys... I'm about to follow some speed tweaks on a website I found.  But I don't want to screw things up... has anyone read, or trust this info? http://tvease.net/wiki/index.php?title=Tweak_ubuntu_for_speed
[08:21] <maddash> how do I get a list of ops in thsi channel?
[08:21] <andrew800> elyon225: i have done soem, i have heard its good
[08:21] <ToHellWithGA> maddash: /msg ubotu ops
[08:22] <andrew800> elyon225: my friend said it helped immensly
[08:22] <andrew800> hey guys, im installing ubuntu tonight, if i want to install on a usb hard drive, where does the bootloader go if i want to put it on that usb hard drive (e.g hd0)?
[08:22] <leo0> :(
[08:22] <maddash> tohellwithga: precision in language. not both of ours were sound. just mine. your's would've kept his process going and going.
[08:22] <DARKGuy> Is there a way to force a package to install, or to force the removal of a package even if it says that the package is in a bad state or inconsistent and that it must be reinstalled before being removed? it's annoying >.<!
[08:22] <Flannel> andrew800: that depends on whether the computer you're using can boot from a USB device
[08:22] <maddash> tohellwithga: where's your sense of humor? I was joking all along, anyway
[08:22] <andrew800> flannel: it can
[08:22] <Znortfl> ok maddash, tohellwithga, thanks for the support it works like a charm.
[08:22] <Flannel> andrew800: then put the bootloader on the USB drive itself
[08:23] <ToHellWithGA> maddash: if you want to talk to me, PM me.  don't clutter this channel
[08:23] <burepe> I have a low resolution problem related to a savage video card. There are details about it here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1971658#post1971658 Can anybody help?
[08:23] <andrew800> flannel: do i need to, will it just boot without a bootloader?
[08:23] <ToHellWithGA> leo0: does it not send messages to that number?
[08:23] <Flannel> andrew800: no, it won't boot without a bootloader.  booting to USB without a bootloader would be just like booting to a HD without a bootloader
[08:23] <andrew800> flannel: If I just install it without a bootloader, it will just boot if i tell my bios to boot to the usb?
[08:24] <ToHellWithGA> leo0: cell phone numbers are not AIM accounts, so i don't see how it would know that a given account is "mobile" or not
[08:24] <mena> ITS WORKED
[08:24] <leo0> tohellwithga it doesnt recognize it as a mobile nor does it appear online
[08:24] <Flannel> andrew800: no.  The bootloader is what the BIOS boots to.
[08:24] <pradalover> I am assuming no one knows what to do...GEEZ
[08:24] <mena> what is the latest versin of x caht
[08:24] <maddash> mena: it worked?
[08:24] <andrew800> flannel: then how do i figure out the name off the usb device (e.g hd0)?
[08:24] <mena> maddash, yes
[08:24] <ToHellWithGA> leo0: set your buddy list to show offline buddies then try to send a message to it despite it appearing offline
[08:25] <leo0> i know but i have a few friends mobile numbers in my buddy list which were from normal aim on windows which show up as mobile
[08:25] <leo0> hmm
[08:25] <leo0> will try
[08:25] <burepe> Dormot_: what was the version of xchat you downloaded?
[08:25] <mena> maddash, can i make games work on ubuntu wich i was opening it on xp
[08:25] <rapid> mena: cedega / wine
[08:25] <maddash> mena: depends. first install wine.
[08:25] <ToHellWithGA> mena: if you do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xchat" you will have the most recent xchat package for your ubuntu version
[08:25] <maddash> !wine | mena
[08:25] <ubotu> mena: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:25] <Dormot_> burepe, from firefox
[08:25] <mena> ToHellWithGA, ok thanks
[08:25] <burepe> no from synaptic
[08:26] <Dormot_> burepe, sec
[08:26] <maddash> mena: don't use apt-get. use aptitude.
[08:26] <andrew800> Flannel: will the name be SDA or SDB, i dont think that will be the name, just becuase hd0 is a different context right?
[08:26] <Dormot_> burepe, 2.6.6
[08:26] <Mementh> is ubuntu supposed to have purple lines runnind downd the screen when booting up or is it my old weird built in video??
[08:26] <Flannel> andrew800: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB should help.
[08:26] <mena> maddash, but i heared its bad for the system right
[08:26] <maddash> mena: replace every instance of "apt-get" with "aptitude"
[08:26] <andrew800> k, thanks
[08:26] <mena> okay
[08:26] <maddash> mena: what's bad for the system? carbohydrates?
[08:27] <ToHellWithGA> maddash: that's not necessary
[08:27] <mena> maddash, the win
[08:27] <leo0> hmm perhaps its just his mobile
[08:27] <maddash> tohellwithga: if you want to talk with me, pm me. don't clutter this channel with bitching.
[08:27] <leo0> i added my own mobile number and it appears online yet his doesnt..
[08:27] <mena> maddash, Wine*
[08:27] <maddash> mena: dubious. define "bad."
[08:28] <mena> maddash, i dont knwo but i enter the kconverstaion befor and they telling me its the latest thing to use it if no other way
[08:28] <maddash> mena: did you ask "them" why?
[08:29] <yoshiznit123> mena, it's not bad for the "system", you can always get rid of it
[08:29] <yoshiznit123> by removing the ".wine" directory in your home dir
[08:29] <mena> maddash, no but they said bec alot of apps are avaliable so why i need it
[08:29] <maddash> mena: listen to yoshiznit123
[08:29] <mena> yoshiznit123, okay i see thanks friends
[08:30] <yoshiznit123> mena, what are you trying to run exactly?
[08:30] <mena> yoshiznit123, games
[08:30] <yoshiznit123> mena, yea for a lot of games wine is the only option. most other software has a free alternative
[08:30] <mena> yoshiznit123, wich are runing on xp
[08:30] <mena> yoshiznit123, okay
[08:30] <ToHellWithGA> mena: depending on the requirements of your games, you may want to try cedega
[08:31] <ToHellWithGA> ubotu: please tell mena about cedega
[08:31] <mena> ToHellWithGA, okay
[08:31] <mena> !cedega
[08:31] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[08:31] <ToHellWithGA> if it's winmine.exe, wine is great for it.  if it's something 3d and recent and fancy, cedega may be a better option
[08:31] <maddash> mena: cedega sounds nice.
[08:32] <mena> maddash, yea
[08:33] <mena> maddash, the ubotu auto answer is nice heheh......
[08:33] <yoshiznit123> whoa, cedega cvs is free?
[08:33] <mena> ^_^
[08:33] <ToHellWithGA> ubotu: please tell maddash about ubotu
[08:33] <bepogi> How is Ubuntu so strange?  I did a fresh install of Edgy a few days and when I installed Xchat from add/remove then, the systray plugin came enabled.  Now I just installed Edgy again tonight and it is nowhere to be found.
[08:33] <maddash> LOL
[08:33] <ToHellWithGA> maddash: note the "usage" part
[08:33] <maddash> that definitely put a new spin on "gratuitous"
[08:34] <mena> !ubotu
[08:34] <maddash> and your point?
[08:34] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:34] <mena> heheh ...nice
[08:34] <mena> ubuto
[08:34] <mena> ^_^
[08:34] <maddash> oh wait, I forgot. If you want to bitch and  moan, pm me.
[08:34] <ToHellWithGA> i did.  you haven't responded
[08:35] <Flannel> maddash: please keep the language family friendly, and take the squabbling elsewhere.  thanks.
[08:35] <mena> Is that tru that automatrix makes conflits
[08:35] <maddash> flannel: do you have a log of the msgs back till ~10 min ago?
[08:36] <burepe> Anyone know about low resolution after install with a " Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller" card?
[08:36] <Flannel> mena: yes, automatix is not a safe thing to use
[08:36] <ToHellWithGA> ubotu: please tell mena about automatix
[08:36] <mena> Flannel, how to install wine i dont any way exz\cept throw automatrix
[08:36] <yoshiznit123> mena, you can get it through synaptic too
[08:37] <ToHellWithGA> mena: sudo apt-get install wine
[08:37] <Flannel> mena: everything in automatix is available manually,
[08:37] <Em3rald> mena:  and some of us might tell you "works for me", but it's not a good way of learning Linux anyway.  Anything you could do right with Automatix, you could do right manually more safely.
[08:37] <Flannel> !wine | mena
[08:37] <ubotu> mena: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:37] <mena> okay
[08:37] <Flannel> mena: there's a wine in the repositories, see that page for a more current versin
[08:37] <lucas9000> how do i run memtest?  i've installed it using synaptic already
[08:37] <ToHellWithGA> lucas9000: does it appear as an option at boot time in GRUB?
[08:38] <mena> Flannel, i entered it and it telling not recmened to install newest version of wine
[08:38] <burepe> memtest in terminal? lucas9000
[08:38] <lucas9000> tohellwithga: i'm trying to run it in terminal
[08:38] <lucas9000> burepe: yes
[08:38] <Flannel> mena: alright, that wiki page knows best.  I haven't looked at it in a while.  It'll get you all setup though
[08:38] <mena> Flannel. okay
[08:39] <maddash> ...and then, there was silence...
[08:39] <lucas9000> tohellwithga, burepe: i think my problem is i don't understand the arguments i need to enter
[08:40] <burepe> try memtest man
[08:40] <ToHellWithGA> lucas9000: are you worried that your memory is corrupted?
[08:40] <burepe> I don't know I just took a guess
[08:40] <lucas9000> tohellwithga: want to see how my ram is performing to decide whether to replace it or not
[08:41] <lucas9000> burepe: "usage: memtest <mem<B|K|M|G>> [runs]  [-l or --log] "
[08:41] <mena> Flannel, i have a problem with parental cntrol with ubuntu CE is there any way to remove it
[08:41] <burepe> I don't know sorry man
[08:41] <lucas9000> burepe: np thanks anyway
[08:41] <ToHellWithGA> lucas9000: it would be much easier to use the memtest86+ package and just run it at boot time
[08:41] <burepe> mena ask your parents :)
[08:42] <lucas9000> tohellwithga: ok, how do i do that?  i have the package installed already
[08:42] <mena> burepe, this is my computer
[08:42] <burepe> im joking sorry
[08:42] <ToHellWithGA> lucas9000: do you use GRUB as your bootloader?  it's the default when you install ubuntu
[08:42] <lucas9000> tohellwithga: yes
[08:42] <burepe> It just struck me as funny
[08:42] <mena> burepe, i know how to remove extention but is there any way to reomve this bec its comes auto with the cd live
[08:43] <ToHellWithGA> lucas9000: when you start up, hit escape to go into the GRUB menu.  memtest86+ should be at the bottom of the menu
[08:43] <theflyingfool> in my xorg.conf under monitor i have option dpms, should that be there?
[08:43] <k001> hi every one
[08:43] <burepe> mena i have no idea sorry
[08:43] <maddash> theflyingfool: why shouldn't it be?
[08:43] <ToHellWithGA> lucas9000: just to be sure, i'd like you to do one thing before you restart.  in a terminal, run "sudo update-grub"
[08:43] <lucas9000> tohellwithga: when i boot i get a menu because i have winxp on here as well...so that menu?
[08:43] <mena> burepe., no problem
[08:44] <k001> How to make packages for Ubuntu?
[08:44] <theflyingfool> maddash: i dont remember it being there?
[08:44] <ToHellWithGA> lucas9000: it should be in that menu if you run the command i just mentioned.
[08:44] <maddash> theflyingfool: if nothing is broken, then I'd say everything is fine...
[08:44] <lucas9000> tohellwithga: ran your command...looks like grub is up to date
[08:44] <maddash> theflyingfool: dpms has to do w/shutting off the display, I think
[08:45] <lucas9000> tohellwithga: i'll restart and try it...thanks for your help
[08:45] <theflyingfool> maddash: well i have killed my xserver about 5 times in the last half hour, so i was wondering if that would be it or not
[08:45] <maddash> theflyingfool: define "kill"
[08:45] <NICKA> i can not seem to change the ubuntu icon in the top panal in the left corner
[08:45] <NICKA> what the heck am i doing wrong?
[08:45] <theflyingfool> it throws random errors at me, so i replaced it with my backup
[08:46] <theflyingfool> in a consol login
[08:46] <theflyingfool> and does anyone know what section DRI stands for/
[08:46] <k001> How to make packages for Ubuntu, It's similar of Debian?
[08:46] <maddash> theflyingfool: direct rendering.
[08:46] <theflyingfool> is mode 0666 good bad or indiffernt
[08:46] <maddash> theflyingfool: just take out the dpms, shouldn't do any harm...you won't be able to turn off your display if you're on a laptop, though....
[08:47] <ToHellWithGA> k001: there is a packaging guide in the ubuntu wiki
[08:47] <fulat2k_> hi folks, any way i can get knetworkmanager to connect to a wireless infra without DHCP?
[08:47] <emss> it's evil
[08:47] <maddash> theflyingfool: leave it. what vid card you have? what xorg vid driver?
[08:47] <k001> ToHellWithGA, please, do you give me the url
[08:47] <theflyingfool> NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] 
[08:47] <theflyingfool> one of the nvidia-glx verssions
[08:48] <ToHellWithGA> k001: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuPackagingGuide
[08:48] <maddash> theflyingfool: ah. then it would make sense for you to have dri.
[08:48] <k001> ToHellWithGA, thanks
[08:48] <maddash> theflyingfool: 666 is fine. just make sure you have "dri" loaded at the top of the xorg.conf
[08:48] <theflyingfool> yup its in there as loaded
[08:48] <emss> my cdrom is making strange noises while installing from livecd
[08:49] <ToHellWithGA> emss: mine clicks and ticks a lot.  it's not a smooth sound by any means when it's randomly getting this-and-that from a CD
[08:49] <maddash> theflyingfool: you ought to be good to go
[08:50] <mena> How TO install scripts with sh
[08:50] <mena> !sh
[08:50] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:50] <HypeRPG> .::Torrart Radio::. tune in @ http://69.89.27.207:8000/
[08:52] <burepe> waht is the copy command/
[08:52] <mena> WineCVS.sh, i have thsi file how yo innstall it
[08:52] <burepe> ?
[08:52] <mena> install*
[08:53] <mena> WineCVS.sh, i have this file how to install it
[08:53] <mena> *
[08:53] <metres> burepe : cp source destination
[08:53] <burepe> did it not working
[08:53] <maddash> burepe: permission denied? try it with sudo.
[08:53] <imbecile> i cannot connect to synaptic and i get these errors http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/812/ any ideas?
[08:53] <burepe> how do I change the name of a file and copy?
[08:54] <yoshiznit123> mena, i'm trying it right now :-)
[08:54] <burepe> i mean copy a file into a new file
[08:54] <mena> okay
[08:54] <yoshiznit123> although cvs doesn't seem like its building right now
[08:54] <rapid> cp file newfile
[08:54] <burepe> I need to back up xorg.conf
[08:54] <mena> yoshiznit123. ok
[08:54] <rapid> cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.backup
[08:54] <maddash> burepe: use sudo
[08:54] <maddash> burepe unless you've su'ed already
[08:54] <maddash> LOL
[08:54] <maddash> "su'ed"
[08:54] <maddash> haha
[08:55] <mena>  yoshiznit123, http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Cedega+CVS
[08:55] <mena> enter here and see bec i cant do anything from there
[08:56] <KillerKiwi2006> HELP, getting error 17 from grub
[08:56] <maddash> !conky
[08:56] <yoshiznit123> mena, that's what i'm using
[08:56] <ubotu> conky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.2-1 (edgy), package size 118 kB, installed size 376 kB
[08:56] <emss> does 6.10 have openoffice 2.1 packages?
[08:56] <mena> yoshiznit123. okay ^_^
[08:57] <mena> ToHellWithGA, thanks for your help
[08:58] <ToHellWithGA> mena: best of luck with your gaming
[08:58] <mena> hahah
[09:01] <enaut> is there anyone who knows what this information means? Begin: Waiting for root file system... especially if the system is freezing after a while of watching this nice message during bootup
[09:01] <maddash> enaut: ouch. could be a hardware problem.
[09:01] <enaut> really?
[09:01] <maddash> enaut: are you able to boot from another os using the same disk?
[09:02] <enaut> yes
[09:02] <enaut> win is currently running
[09:02] <enaut> from the same disk
[09:02] <maddash> enaut: you're root is ext3, right?
[09:02] <enaut> yes
[09:02] <ToHellWithGA> enaut: is taht the output you get when running the "recovery mode" from grub?
[09:03] <theflyingfool> is it possible to have x generate a fresh xorg.conf
[09:03] <ToHellWithGA> you may get more detailed output if you pick the recovery mode of your kernel
[09:03] <enaut> both the same result
[09:03] <enaut> (recovery and normal)
[09:03] <yoshiznit123> enaut, did you change any partitions around and forget to update grub?
[09:03] <imbecile> i cannot connect to synaptic and i get these errors http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/812/ any ideas?
[09:03] <maddash> enaut: what did you install?
[09:03] <enaut> i reinstalled grub may that be a problem?
[09:03] <maddash> enaut: precisely.
[09:03] <mena> Thanks Friends Your Help FOr Today ..With GOd Bless
[09:03] <mena> Bye
[09:04] <enaut> wow and how can i fix that
[09:04] <mena> ^_^+^_^
[09:04] <enaut> cu mena
[09:04] <ToHellWithGA> enaut: "sudo update-grub" in a terminal may help
[09:04] <yoshiznit123> mena, although cvs seems to be compiling now
[09:04] <enaut> ok thx for help i'll try it
[09:04] <yoshiznit123> oops
[09:04] <ToHellWithGA> if that does not help, you may have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst manually in a text editor
[09:06] <enaut> but i'm pretty sure that this menuelist is the same as before because all my options I have set are still there
[09:06] <imbecile> can anyone connect to synaptic right now?
[09:06] <imbecile> i cannot connect to synaptic and i get these errors http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/812/ any ideas?
[09:06] <enaut> but i'll try to update
[09:06] <enaut> cu
[09:08] <imbecile> i feel like im muted :(
[09:08] <sleeper> I can hear you
[09:09] <burepe> I am helping someone and we found a faq on how to fix his problem but the guy's monitor is different and we are not sure what values to enter for the monitor Here is the web page (the information we are using is the last post on the bottom). And the person I am helping's monitor is "15 inch triniton multiscan 100es" Can someone give us a push in the right direction?
[09:09] <Lynoure> imbecile: you are just asking at a non-busy hour: late at night for USA, morning in EU
[09:09] <imbecile> sleeper,  can you download anything from synaptic right now?
[09:09] <maddash> imbecile: look for mirrors
[09:09] <DarthLappy> imbecile: Are you runinng a proxy?
[09:09] <maddash> imbecile: gooogle ubuntu repository mirrors
[09:09] <Lynoure> imbecile: By "connect to synaptic" you mean connect the repositories?
[09:09] <imbecile> wow there we go
[09:10] <imbecile> Lynoure,  yes
[09:10] <Lynoure> imbecile: Which ones are you using?
[09:10] <pucko-> Can anyone tell me if all motherboards that supports that agp 1x/2x/4x will accept cards that need 3.3V and 1.5V? (or do I need to check which voltages my motherboard supports?)
[09:10] <pucko-> sorry, one "that" too much
[09:11] <improper> easy question: how do I tell how much free space I have on my linux partition?
[09:11] <imbecile> Lynoure,  heres a pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/812/
[09:11] <foglight> 4/j #ubuntu-dev
[09:11] <foglight> er
[09:11] <DarthLappy> improper: df -h
[09:11] <jenda> improper: check out the disk usage analyzer
[09:11] <improper> DarthLappy, jenda Thanks!
[09:11] <HypeRPG> .::Torrart Radio::. tune in @ http://69.89.27.207:8000/
[09:11] <jenda> improper: Applications > Accessories > Disk Usage Analyzer
[09:12] <ToHellWithGA> HypeRPG: please do not spam this channel
[09:12] <improper> jenda, thanks, that's a pretty cool little widget
[09:12] <Lynoure> imbecile: looks like a a local problem: Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1).  127.0.0.1 means your own computer.
[09:12] <mena> how to now what is the type of my viga card] 
[09:12] <jenda> improper: indeed :) just discovered it a few days ago.
[09:13] <hgist> help needed -> i have ubuntu 6.06 without apachectl , is it normal?
[09:13] <elyon225> Is there some kind of FAQ for audio that stutters and has a lot of pops in it?
[09:13] <imbecile> Lynoure,  teah looks like i have to uninstall TOR and privoxy
[09:14] <thoreauputic> elyon225: try removing the wax from your ears, or stop listening to Edison wax cylinders ;p
[09:14] <fatlip> HypeRPG: has onjoin spam
[09:14] <elyon225> thoreauputic: I already tried that!
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[09:14] <elyon225> thoreauputic: My wax is completely up to date though!\
[09:14] <thoreauputic> elyon225: heh - just covering the bases ;)
[09:14] <Lynoure> imbecile: using ubuntu repositiories over top would be a bit pointless, too. :)
[09:14] <Lynoure> s/top/tor
[09:15] <thoreauputic> elyon225: maybe you should not use the ear wax for your cylinders ;p
[09:15] <mena> Any One KNow How To know what is the type of the viga card throw terminal
[09:16] <ToHellWithGA> mena: lspci
[09:16] <yoshiznit123> oh mena, btw cvs is building fine now
[09:16] <eteran> hello everyone, i'm trying to switch from WinXP to Xubuntu for my first choise desktop, i'm in need of a nice image viewer, something like irfanview would be nice, any suggestions?
[09:16] <mena> ToHellWithGA, ok
[09:16] <mena> yoshiznit123, how
[09:16] <yoshiznit123> just follow the directions on the page :-)
[09:17] <yoshiznit123> but if you get a __stack_chk_fail, you have to edit the makefile
[09:17] <maddash> is there an op around here?
[09:17] <maddash> I hesitate to use !ops
[09:17] <maddash> but hyperpg is a bot...a spambot...did the same in #debian.
[09:17] <SaLoMoN> mh yeah
[09:17] <mena> yoshiznit123, from the begining on the terminal its telling me comand cant found
[09:17] <SaLoMoN> it is
[09:17] <thoreauputic> maddash: what's the problem?
[09:18] <SaLoMoN> [09:17:54]  <HypeRPG> .::Torrart Radio::. tune in @ http://69.89.27.207:8000/
[09:18] <yoshiznit123> mena, cd to the directory with WineCVS.sh
[09:18] <SaLoMoN> Its a spambot
[09:18] <maddash> [03:17]  maddash: but hyperpg is a bot...a spambot...did the same in #debian.
[09:18] <yoshiznit123> and type "bash WineCVS.sh"
[09:18] <SaLoMoN> in here
[09:18] <SaLoMoN> :|
[09:18] <maddash> thoreauputic: [03:17]  maddash: but hyperpg is a bot...a spambot...did the same in #debian.
[09:18] <SaLoMoN> mr HypeRPG
[09:18] <SaLoMoN> ^^
[09:18] <maddash> check with #debian
[09:18] <SaLoMoN> or rejoin here
[09:18] <SaLoMoN> lol
[09:18] <maddash> chk with "peters" in #debian
[09:19] <mena> yoshiznit123, So How ....:)
[09:19] <thoreauputic> maddash: K-lined apparently
[09:19] <yoshiznit123> mena, :-) open up a terminal
[09:19] <yoshiznit123> where did you download that file?
[09:19] <maddash> maddash: hmm?
[09:19] <mena> yoshiznit123, ok
[09:19] <mena> yoshiznit123, then
[09:19] <maddash> thoreauputic: hmm? you're an op, rah?
[09:19] <thoreauputic> ->> HypeRPG has quit (K-lined)
[09:19] <maddash> thoreauputic: nvm. thanks for responding any how.
[09:19] <thoreauputic> maddash: and yes
[09:19] <johnstar> does anyone know whats the min for a root dir in ubuntu I was thinking about getting a gigabyte iram drive
[09:20] <yoshiznit123> mena, then change to the directory with the file
[09:20] <yoshiznit123> mena, something like "cd Downloads/wherever"
[09:20] <thoreauputic> johan666: a standard install uses about 1.8G not counting swap
[09:20] <mena> yoshiznit123, ok i will see
[09:20] <hgist> could someone assist me referring the ubuntu 6.06 w/o apachectl ?
[09:20] <thoreauputic> bah johnstar that was for you - sorry johan666
[09:21] <Flannel> hgist: what?
[09:21] <thoreauputic> johan666: a server install only uses a few hundred MB , but of course has no GUI
[09:21] <thoreauputic> grrr
[09:21] <hgist> i'm running ubuntu 6.06 but can not find apachectl util
[09:22] <yoshiznit123> mena, compiling is a bit of a hassle. btw, if you'd rather spend the 5 dollars to buy cedega and get support, that would probably be easier in general :-)
[09:22] <eric`> is the download rate for updates EXTREMELY slow for everyone else?
[09:22] <Flannel> eric`: yeah, some mirrors are slow today
[09:22] <Lynoure> thoreauputic: actually, more pointful to patch the client to ignore joins and quits in that situation
[09:22] <thoreauputic> Lynoure: ?
[09:23] <imbecile> bbiam to see if i fixed this
[09:23] <mena> yoshiznit123, heheh..
[09:23] <eric`> Flannel: any news on when they will pick up?
[09:23] <Lynoure> thoreauputic: rather than cutting off tab fingers :)
[09:23] <johnstar> In manual install you can have home dir and / on diffrent drives, partition I just wanted to know the / because I have a spare gig of ram :)
[09:23] <thoreauputic> Lynoure: I kind of need to see joins and quits
[09:23] <eric`> this is rediculous :(
[09:23] <ToHellWithGA> eric`: it's free, man.  it'll get faster some time.  don't sweat it so much
[09:23] <Lynoure> thoreauputic: not ignore that way, make tab complete ignore them.
[09:23] <thoreauputic> ah
[09:23] <Flannel> eric`: apachectl isn't part of apache2, only apache
[09:23] <Lynoure> thoreauputic: thus 'patch' there :)
[09:24] <Flannel> eric`: sorry, not you.
[09:24] <eric`> yeah school starts tomorrow and i wanted everything setup, oh well, it can wait i suppose :-)
[09:24] <h3110w33n> hi
[09:24] <Flannel> hgist: apachectl isn't part of apache2, only apache
[09:24] <ToHellWithGA> h3110w33n: can you be helped?
[09:24] <Flannel> eric`: no, no way of determining when.  You can try a different mirror
[09:24] <eric`> how so?
[09:25] <Flannel> eric`: change the URLs in your sources.list
[09:25] <hgist> Flannel: actually, i wanted to check my apache2 .conf files ; hence thoughts using apachectl
[09:25] <johnstar> I know I can get a live cd hacked and booting (with persistence) of of 1 gig so I might do that
[09:26] <bepogi> Hello.  Sometimes a lot of my functionality dies out of nowhere.  Log Out button doesn't work.. neither does quit in the System menu.  Gaim, Gnometris... come to think of it... all GTK stuff I guess.
[09:26] <yoshiznit123> mena, did u get it working?
[09:26] <bepogi> How do I fix that or enable them to work again so I don't have to manually flip the switch on my pc?
[09:26] <espenel> you tell me ;)
[09:26] <XiXaQ> I'm configuring an email server. Now, I've installed and configured postfix and dovecot by following the guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer. How can I make sent mail available via imap?
[09:26] <Flannel> hgist: for apache2, you want apache2ctl, which is already installed
[09:26] <ToHellWithGA> bepogi: you can always restart using a terminal
[09:27] <eric`> sudo apt-get update... this will update the same as clicking that little orange icon?
[09:27] <mena> yoshiznit123, No But Wait
[09:27] <Flannel> eric`: the orange... reload icon?
[09:27] <imbecile> yayyyy i fixed it
[09:27] <hgist> Flannel: thnx I'ii try it
[09:27] <bepogi> The terminal won't start either.
[09:27] <ToHellWithGA> bepogi: "sudo shutdown -r now" will reset your computer very quickly without using the gnome logout icon
[09:27] <bepogi> Xchat, Firefox work... that is about it.
[09:27] <johnstar> whats -r do?
[09:27] <ToHellWithGA> bepogi: ctrl+alt+f1 will not get you a terminal?
[09:27] <eric`> Flannel: the orange icon with a star in the middle
[09:27] <ToHellWithGA> johnstar: restart
[09:27] <thoreauputic> johnstar: reboots
[09:27] <bepogi> ToHellWithGA, nope.
[09:27] <eric`> that pops up near the time
[09:28] <imbecile> whoah 318 kbs  download from repos right now
[09:28] <hgist> Flannel: thnx thnx , found n working
[09:28] <bepogi> i can bring up alt-f2 tho... let me see
[09:28] <imbecile> thats the best speed ive gotten from them
[09:28] <eric`> yeah repos are lagging bad
[09:28] <Flannel> eric`: oh, the update manager?  that's the same as sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:28] <bepogi> That didn't work.
[09:28] <bepogi> No terminal access.  :/
[09:28] <bepogi> Only Xchat and Firefox work.  lol
[09:29] <imbecile> eric`,  mines going really fast right now
[09:29] <bepogi> This has happened before.  Everytime I had to flip my computer switch and everything worked upon logging back in.
[09:29] <bepogi> But it breaks once or twice a day.
[09:29] <yoshiznit123> sorry for the off topic, is there a c programming channel on irc? i've never really used irc
[09:29] <Flannel> bepogi: sounds like a hardware problem
[09:29] <Flannel> yoshiznit123: ##C
[09:29] <eric`> imcecile: quit taking it all and give me some :D
[09:30] <emss> so I just installed 6.10 where are the nvidia-glx-legacy packages?
[09:30] <yoshiznit123> flannel, thanks
[09:30] <enaut> now i fired up knoppix to try out the update grub sollution for the "waiting for rootfilesystem" problem but ubdate grub outputs the following things: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/813/
[09:30] <Flannel> emss: multiverse
[09:31] <ToHellWithGA> enaut: did you try grub-install?
[09:31] <eric`> i like to install the nvidia driver from their site personally :O
[09:31] <ToHellWithGA> also, that looks like knoppix
[09:31] <enaut> yeah its in the 2.
[09:31] <mena> yoshiznit123,test: 43: ==: unexpected operator
[09:31] <mena> WineCVS.sh: 48: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[09:31] <emss> Flannel: just uncomment the appropriate lines in /etc/apt/sources.list and update?
[09:31] <mena> yoshiznit123, its telling me that
[09:31] <yoshiznit123> mena, do you have all the libs installed?
[09:31] <yoshiznit123> mena and its because ubuntu uses dash now by default
[09:32] <yoshiznit123> you have to use bash instead of sh
[09:32] <Flannel> emss: multiverse requires you to type, but yeah.  uncomment the universe line, type in " multiverse" after universe, and then update.
[09:32] <mena> yoshiznit123, okoy
[09:32] <tortho> anyone running beryl, and hav other that us keyboard here?
[09:32] <Flannel> tortho: you might try #ubuntu-xgl
[09:32] <tortho> Flannel: Thanks
[09:32] <mena> yoshiznit123, do i must get a proffile
[09:33] <yoshiznit123> yea
[09:33] <yoshiznit123> get profile 0
[09:33] <mena> yoshiznit123, okay
[09:33] <emss> Flannel: how to change the Ubuntu mirros? the http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ is slow 14KB/s
[09:33] <enaut> the output of grub-install is in taht paste too http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/813/
[09:33] <Flannel> emss: remove the us. make it http://archive...
[09:34] <mena> yoshiznit123, 0
[09:34] <ToHellWithGA> emss: please don't whinge about 14k/s.  some people dial up and don't get that rate.  the problem will be solved in time, and until then you can use a mirror
[09:34] <yoshiznit123> mena, you also have to have all the build packages installed: type this from another terminal:
[09:34] <yoshiznit123> sudo apt-get install cvs build-essential bison flex-old libasound2-dev x-dev libpng12-dev libjpeg62-dev libfreetype6-dev libxrender-dev libttf2 libttf-dev libsdl1.2-dev libsdl-ttf2.0-dev libsdl-net1.2-dev libsdl-gfx1.2-dev msttcorefonts libfontconfig1-dev
[09:34] <subzero800> anyone: I just installed my ati drivers, but forgot to disable composite, so I uninstalled and disabled composite, reinstalled and glxinfo says no :-(
[09:35] <mena> allthat
[09:35] <mena> ok
[09:35] <subzero800> anyone: do I have to re-load a config or something? I really rather not re-format
[09:36] <xopher> subzero800 actually, you can enable/disable composite without re-installing at all.. just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:36] <subzero800> I did, but when i restart, the driver still won't load
[09:37] <mena> yoshiznit123, it gives many win
[09:37] <xopher> you sure you selected the correct driver in xorg.conf?
[09:37] <subzero800> what do you mean?
[09:37] <mena> yoshiznit123, 0 profile
[09:37] <xopher> subzero800 under the device section
[09:38] <xopher> you have to change the driver value to the driver you want to use
[09:38] <xopher> just installing isnt sufficient, its there, but not used, if you get me.. :D
[09:38] <Xyloc> Can anyone help me with a WPA PSK TKIP conversion problem? (My WLAN card won't accept a ASCII passphrase). I'm trying to use iwpriv to test my setup
[09:38] <subzero800> i get ya, how do i change it xopher?
[09:38] <yoshiznit123> mena, ?
[09:39] <xopher> subzero800 just open the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file with a text editor with sudo
[09:39] <mena> yoshiznit123, after chossing profile 0 it gaves me amy of wine
[09:39] <mena> many*
[09:39] <subzero800> wait, lemme try something brb
[09:40] <yoshiznit123> mena ?
[09:40] <yoshiznit123> pastebin it or something
[09:41] <enaut> no one knows a solution for my problem? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/813/
[09:41] <mena> 1 ) cvscedega_head
[09:41] <mena> *PTHREADS VERSION* - for newer distros
[09:41] <mena> This profile gets the most recent, but also most bleeding
[09:41] <mena> edge version of the free cvs cedega.
[09:41] <mena> This is the PTHREADS version, therefore not for older glibc
[09:41] <mena> based distributions.
[09:41] <mena> 2 ) cvscedega_head_old
[09:41] <mena> *NON PTHREADS VERSION* - for older distros
[09:41] <mena> This profile gets the most recent, but also most bleeding
[09:41] <mena> edge version of the free cvs cedega.
[09:41] <mena> This is the NON PTHREADS version for older distributions
[09:41] <sesho> anyone knows how to make apt look in a directory for packages instead of online?
[09:41] <mena> based on glibc <2.3.1.
[09:41] <maddash> !enter | mena
[09:41] <ubotu> mena: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:41] <ToHellWithGA> mena: stop
[09:41] <mena> 3 ) cvswine_head
[09:41] <mena> Regular Wine:
[09:41] <mena> This profile gets the latest bleeding edge wine from
[09:41] <mena> CVS.
[09:41] <maddash> !enter | mena
[09:41] <mena> 4 ) dx9wine
[09:41] <maddash> mena, stop.
[09:41] <mena> Regular Wine with Oliver Stiebers Direct3D9 Patches
[09:41] <yoshiznit123> k yea good
[09:41] <mena> 5 ) rewind
[09:41] <mena> Rewind is the fork of wine right before they went lgpl.
[09:41] <mena> 6 ) winex300_old
[09:42] <mena> *NON PTHREADS VERSION* - does not work with newer distros
[09:42] <mena> Gets the winex 3.0 CVS release. This is the version from CVS
[09:42] <ToHellWithGA> !ops
[09:42] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[09:42] <mena> that WineX 3.0 is based on.
[09:42] <maddash> mena, I'm trying to read enaut's msgs
[09:42] <mena> 7 ) winex310
[09:42] <mena> *PTHREADS VERSION* - for NEWER distros (glibc >2.3.1)
[09:42] <maddash> please stop
[09:42] <mena> Gets the winex 3.1 CVS release. This is the version from CVS
[09:42] <mena> that WineX 3.1 is based on.
[09:42] <ToHellWithGA> we need a +b
[09:42] <mena> 8 ) winex320
[09:42] <mena> *PTHREADS VERSION* - for NEWER distros (glibc >2.3.1)
[09:42] <mena> Gets the winex 3.2 CVS release. This is the version from CVS
[09:42] <mena> that WineX 3.2 is based on.
[09:42] <yoshiznit123> its prolly lagging
[09:42] <mena> 9 ) winex330
[09:42] <mena> *PTHREADS VERSION* - for NEWER distros (glibc >2.3.1)
[09:42] <mena> Gets the winex 3.3 CVS release. This is the version from CVS
[09:42] <maddash> ugh
[09:42] <mena> that WineX 3.3 is based on.
[09:42] <maddash> !ops
[09:42] <mena> sorry sorry sorry
[09:42] <maddash> geez
[09:42] <mena> sorry sorry sorry
[09:42] <mena> i am realy sorry i didt mention it
[09:42] <maddash> !enter | mena
[09:42] <ubotu> mena: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:42] <Flannel> no, he's pasted and now his client is nice enough to throttle it for us.  mena, in the future, use pastebin, thanks.
[09:42] <maddash> ughhhhhhh
[09:43] <Flannel> enaut: don't you want /dev/sha5 instead of /media/?
[09:43] <Flannel> er, sda5
[09:43] <maddash> I don't even know if my logs still have enaut's msgs. what's your prob, enaut?
[09:43] <mena> Flannel, i am realy sorry sorry sorrry plz
[09:43] <yoshiznit123> k mena, scroll down with space and then type 0
[09:43] <mena> ok
[09:43] <mena> sorry i am stupied
[09:43] <thoreauputic> mena: you are lucky you weren't banned
[09:43] <mena> yes
[09:43] <ToHellWithGA> mena: we're just all glad it's over.  next time you ahve a lot of text, copy and paste it to a pastebin
[09:43] <ToHellWithGA> !pastebin
[09:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:44] <jin> 
[09:44] <mena> ToHellWithGA , okay
[09:44] <maddash> enaut : do you mind reposting your problem ? maybe I could help you.
[09:44] <enaut> Flannel: /media/ is my mountpoint
[09:44] <foglight> poor mena
[09:44] <enaut> there are several error herehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/813/
[09:45] <mena> foglight, what to see it was a mistake and i will not make it again sorry friends and thanks for not banding
[09:45] <mena> say
[09:45] <Bhaskar> data on  FAT is format from UBUNTu, how can i recover these data
[09:46] <foglight> mena, accidents happen
[09:46] <enaut> but the mainproblem is that my ordonary linux refuses to boot (says: waiting for root filesystem)
[09:46] <rizal_opre1> my laptop can't produce sounds, what should I do?
[09:46] <emss> enaut: did you change anything after instaling ubuntu?
[09:46] <maddash> enaut: as I asked before, what and how did you install?
[09:47] <maddash> rizal_opre1:  alsa
[09:47] <Flannel> enaut: acutally, I don't see a --root-directory option in update-grub anyway
[09:47] <Jowi> Bhaskar, you made a backup of your linux files onto a fat partition?
[09:47] <maddash> rizal_opre1:  make sure u've installed alsa-base, alsa-utils and libed0
[09:47] <rizal_opre1> alsa? what is that mean?
[09:47] <maddash> rizal_opre1 : then run alsa-config
[09:47] <Bhaskar> jowi, no there are other files
[09:47] <enaut> but the chroot command isn't working too
[09:47] <sesho> anyone knows how to modify sources.list so that apt looks in a  local directory for packages instead of online?
[09:47] <maddash> rizal_opre1 : sry, make that "libesd0" or something
[09:47] <Jowi> Bhaskar, then I do not understand your question. please rephrase
[09:48] <Flannel> sesho: comment out the cdrom line
[09:48] <mena> yoshiznit123, i choise 00 then its opened a comands what to do
[09:48] <rizal_opre1> how can I run alsa-config from the desktop?
[09:48] <maddash> rizal_opre1 : how not? open up a cmd terminal, type "sudo alsa-config"
[09:48] <yoshiznit123> if "r" is one of the choices, do that
[09:49] <Xyloc> How do I use iwpriv to test my WLAN card using WPA-PSK (TKIP) and an ASCII-key?
[09:49] <mena> yoshiznit123, no
[09:49] <emss> rizal_opre1: http://www.alsa-project.org/
[09:49] <yoshiznit123> what are the choices, and don't paste :-)
[09:49] <rizal_opre1> it's said command not found
[09:49] <Bhaskar> jowi: i have automatically mount windows partition FAT, by mistake /media/rm-rf /* detete my all FAT partition data, so how can i retrieve these data
[09:49] <Flannel> sesho: er, sorry.  wrong direction.  you want https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocalAptGetRepository
[09:50] <maddash> rizal_opre1 : did you chk that those 3 things were installed?
[09:50] <maddash> rizal_opre1 : geez read my msgs
[09:50] <Jowi> Bhaskar, you probably can not. maybe there is a disk recovery tool out there somewhere but there is no obvious way.
[09:50] <mena> yoshiznit123, okay
[09:51] <enaut> maddash:I reinstalled windows and after that i tried to fix my MBR as usual but it wasn't working - so i tired the Supergrub-CD and it worked partially
[09:51] <sesho> Flannel, thanks - checking it out
[09:51] <rizal_opre1> I don't know how to check those 3 things
[09:51] <maddash> rizal_opre1: the 3 pkgs are, again: alsa-base, asa-utils, and libesd0-alsa
[09:51] <rizal_opre1> I'm new
[09:51] <Bhaskar> jowi: you mean i can't recover data?
[09:51] <ubuntu__> hi guys
[09:51] <rizal_opre1> help me maddash, please
[09:51] <maddash> rizal_opre1: should've asked how to chk first,. then. opena  cmd term and type in "sudo synaptic"
[09:52] <maddash> rizal_opre1 : or just press Alt+f2 and type in "gksu synaptic"
[09:52] <Jowi> Bhaskar, there is a way to undelete data from an ext2 partition called "recover". but i have no idea if there exist a similar tool for FAT partitions
[09:52] <Jowi> !recover
[09:52] <ubotu> recover: Undelete files on ext2 partitions. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3c-10 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 108 kB
[09:52] <maddash> rizal_opre1 : do you know how to use synaptic?
[09:52] <mena> yoshiznit123, pastebain link plz
[09:52] <rizal_opre1> yes I have open the synaptic
[09:52] <yoshiznit123> !pastebin
[09:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:52] <rizal_opre1> what should I do next?
[09:53] <rizal_opre1> maddash: I found alsa-base and alsa-utils in the synaptic
[09:53] <maddash> rizal_opre1 : chk the 3rd one.
[09:54] <mena> yoshiznit123, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/814/
[09:54] <maddash> rizal_opre1 : if it's not installed, then install it.
[09:54] <Jowi> Bhaskar, maybe "mondo" can help but I haven't tested it
[09:54] <Jowi> !mondo
[09:54] <ubotu> mondo: powerful disaster recovery suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.08-2-2 (edgy), package size 391 kB, installed size 1128 kB
[09:54] <maddash> rizal_opre1 : then open a cmd term, run `sudo alsa-config`
[09:54] <ubuntu__> any1 running vsftpd?
[09:54] <maddash> !anyone | ubuntu__
[09:55] <ubotu> ubuntu__: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:55] <sesho> Flannel, thanks but i need something else , i have abox with no internet connection, its a fresh install. i copied var/apt/archives afrom another box and try to install but get lost in dependencies...
[09:55] <Bhaskar> jowi : i have ubuntu6.06
[09:55] <ubuntu__> lol
[09:55] <Hikaru79> Hi; I'm having a problem with the Beryl repositories. I *did* enable them, but when I try "sudo apt-get install beryl", it gives me unmet dependency errors :( For example: http://rafb.net/p/rDDp7369.html
[09:55] <Hikaru79> Does anyone know what might be going on?
[09:55] <yoshiznit123> mena, argh. did you end up getting the profile?
[09:55] <ubuntu__> I'm getting permizzon denied error while creating folder via vsftp
[09:55] <ubuntu__> anyone knows about it?
[09:55] <ubuntu__> write mode is enabled though
[09:55] <subzero800> anyone: has anybody installed beryl on their ati card here?
[09:55] <Bhaskar> jowi: how can i install mondo in ubuntu 6.06
[09:55] <rizal_opre1> maddash: I found libesd-alsa0 is it the the same?
[09:55] <Flannel> sesho: without the depends the packages won't work,
[09:56] <Jowi> Bhaskar, I just read a bit about mondo and it seems it supports vfat (which is fat32). maybe you should try it "sudo apt-get install mondo"
[09:56] <maddash> rizal_opre1 : yes.
[09:56] <mena> yoshiznit123, ?
[09:56] <rizal_opre1> maddash: then what?
[09:56] <xopher> subzero800: you're better off asking about beryl in either #beryl or #ubuntu-xgl ;)
[09:56] <yoshiznit123> mena, k type :q and enter
[09:56] <maddash> rizal_opre1 : install
[09:56] <yoshiznit123> sorry
[09:56] <Bhaskar> jowi: can u send me link from where it can be downloaded
[09:56] <ubuntu__> anyone?
[09:56] <yoshiznit123> just press q
[09:56] <sesho> Flannel, i know but i cant install the dependencies manually - i ahve more than 300 packages there
[09:57] <Flannel> maddash: they set up the environment different than sudo, gksu(do) should be used when the programs they're starting are graphical
[09:57] <rizal_opre1> maddash: I'd love to, but I don't know how
[09:57] <Flannel> sesho: I'm not sure what you're asking to do, honestly.
[09:57] <enaut> maddash: you don't know a solution anymore?
[09:57] <Jowi> Bhaskar, you don't need a link. simply type "sudo apt-get install mondo" in a terminal and it will be downloaded and installed automatically
[09:57] <harp> when I enable my netcard it works but OS works very slowly and if you want to run some program it takes about 1 minute
[09:58] <Bhaskar> jowi: but i have no internet on that PC
[09:58] <Jowi> Bhaskar, ah. I will see what I can find
[09:58] <maddash> rizal_opre1 : click "apply"
[09:58] <maddash> enaut: huh?
[09:58] <sesho> Flannel, i have a new install box with no internet , i copied a bunch of packages and their dependencies from another box, but when i try to dpkg them apt looks for the dependencies in the repositories instead of the local directory
[09:58] <ubuntu__> grr
[09:59] <rizal_opre1> maddash: I can't click it
[09:59] <mena> yoshiznit123, i started it from the beginig then i will choos 0 if i find r type r right if didt typr :q
[09:59] <maddash> Flannel: tell elkbuntu how ignorant he is. he's not responding to me.
[09:59] <Bhaskar> jowi:pls
[09:59] <maddash> rizal_opre1 : why not?
[09:59] <ubuntu__> sesho:  where did u copy to?
[09:59] <maddash> rizal_opre1: uh
[09:59] <yoshiznit123> mena, lol yea
[09:59] <enaut> maddash:I reinstalled windows and after that i tried to fix my MBR as usual but it wasn't working - so i tired the Supergrub-CD and it worked partially
[09:59] <mena> bec i know thtat you wont get rif of mee right^_^
[09:59] <sesho> ubuntu_ a local folder
[09:59] <mena> rid*
[09:59] <enaut> maddash: the answer for what i installed
[09:59] <maddash> rizal_opre1: you have to **select the nice white box on the left of the text within the list**
[09:59] <rizal_opre1> maddash: maybe because I already installed it?
[09:59] <Flannel> maddash: first, I wont.  second, you need to be registered and identified to services to send queries, which is why he isn't responding.  /msg nickserv help register for more information
[10:00] <ubuntu__> sesho:  copy it to /var/cace/apt/archives
[10:00] <maddash> Flannel : thanks
[10:00] <ubuntu__> cache*
[10:00] <Flannel> maddash: you can also take it to #ubuntu-ops
[10:00] <maddash> Flannel : double heap of gratitude
[10:00] <sesho> ubuntu_ of course! ,silly me
[10:00] <sesho> ubuntu_ thanks
[10:00] <ubuntu__> welcome
[10:00] <maddash> rizal_opre1 : if a package is installed, then the box on the left would be green
[10:01] <Guardian> hi
[10:01] <Guardian> is there anything to do to enable transparency in flash animations under linux ?
[10:01] <Jowi> Bhaskar, http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/m/mondo/
[10:01] <mena> yoshiznit123, i typed :q and it started from making profile
[10:01] <mena> yoshiznit123, after i didt found r
[10:01] <ubuntu__> man :O
[10:01] <Jowi> Bhaskar, this is probably what you want http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/m/mondo/mondo_2.20-1.1_i386.deb
[10:01] <enaut> maddash: my chroot outputs "chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Exec format error"
[10:01] <ubuntu__> noone using vsftpd ?
[10:02] <ubuntu__> enaut:  run as root
[10:02] <maddash> enaut: ow. can you `sudo which chroot`?
[10:02] <yoshiznit123> mena, i dunno how to help you, i'd have to see the messages
[10:02] <Bhaskar> jowi: ok i will dodnload
[10:03] <mena> yoshiznit123, okay i will give you
[10:03] <eric`> whats the easiest way to install java 6.0?
[10:04] <ubuntu__> mena pc still not fixed?
[10:04] <rizal_opre1> maddash: yes the box is green
[10:04] <enaut> maddash: outputs: /usr/sbin/chroot
[10:04] <mena> ubuntu__, about
[10:04] <Jowi> Bhaskar, you will need to download these to get it fully installed (find them from the same place as I gave you before, do some digging): afio buffer gawk libfuse2 libntfs8 lzop mindi mindi-busybox mondo ms-sys ntfsprogs syslinux
[10:04] <ubuntu__> u had problem yesterday
[10:04] <harp> I run xvidtune set new display settings but I don't know how to save this settings
[10:04] <vleon> !tv-out
[10:04] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out on certain NVidia cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition
[10:04] <mneptok> eric`: you're better off with the JRE in Universe
[10:04] <maddash> rizal_opre1 : then click "apply"
[10:05] <mena> ubuntu__, about the resolution
[10:05] <enaut> ubuntu__: i was root
[10:05] <eric`> mneptok: i need JDK
[10:05] <ubuntu__> yes
[10:05] <mena> ubuntu__, its solved
[10:05] <maddash> enaut: then from here in, do "/usr/sbin/chroot" not just "chroot
[10:05] <ubuntu__> <<IRCmonkey
[10:05] <mena> maddash by him
[10:05] <mneptok> eric`: the JDK is in there
[10:05] <mdious> enaut:  http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/suse-linux-help/48236-lost-root-password.html might help
[10:05] <Bhaskar> jowi i download, but error :dependancy is not satisfiable:libc6 appears
[10:05] <mena> ubuntu__, thanks for your asking
[10:05] <ubuntu__> np
[10:05] <ubuntu__> !vsftpd
[10:05] <ubotu> vsftpd: The Very Secure FTP Daemon. In component main, is extra. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 109 kB, installed size 408 kB
[10:06] <mdious> enaut:  what output do you get for mount ?
[10:06] <maddash> rizal_opre1: have you installed it all yet?
[10:06] <mena> yoshiznit123, to the point more what to do take the choise 0 coy then paste it to more
[10:07] <ubuntu__> bbl
[10:07] <yoshiznit123> mena, what's it asking for?
[10:07] <enaut> maddash: same results as without
[10:07] <emss> firefox doesn't use the gtk font color
[10:07] <Jowi> Bhaskar, i don't really know. maybe i gave you the link to the wrong version...
[10:08] <maddash> enaut: are you su'ed?
[10:08] <mena> yoshiznit123, the profile chosing ...... in any why what if i didt chose account
[10:08] <enaut> yes
[10:08] <yoshiznit123> mena, i messaged you, u there?
[10:08] <Bhaskar> jowi:ubuntu 6.06
[10:08] <mena> yoshiznit123, yes
[10:09] <eric`> mneptok: i dont see it in universe :(
[10:09] <eric`> whats the name of the package?
[10:09] <enaut> maddash: yes
[10:10] <acab_> i'm trying to install vmware player but when i try to install the deb package i get: A previous installation of VMware Software has been detected.
[10:10] <acab_> how i could uninstall it?
[10:10] <xopher> acab_: what do you have installed?
[10:10] <eric`> mneptok: nevermind i found it
[10:10] <mdious> acab_:  dpkg --purge
[10:10] <Jowi> Bhaskar, try this one http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/m/mondo/mondo_2.06-1_i386.deb
[10:10] <acab_> i think nothing... or i don't know how check it... nothing in the repo....
[10:11] <soup_> where is a good place to look for disk drivers if the install indicates you need to provide them?
[10:11] <xopher> acab_ try writing vmware in terminal, then TAB, might show something, and an uninstaller
[10:11] <cafuego> soup_: What hardware you got?
[10:11] <maddash> enaut: why don't you reinstall?
[10:11] <Jowi> Bhaskar, I have 6.06 as well and when I apt-get it that version is what is installed
[10:11] <soup_> sata, uli or ali chip I think is the south, radeon x200 motherboard
[10:12] <enaut> maddash: the whole thing or what?
[10:12] <Bhaskar> jowi: there may be dependent file?
[10:12] <maddash> enaut: ubuntu.
[10:12] <cafuego> soup_: If that's not supported, try a newer Ubuntu.
[10:13] <soup_> I've tried 6.10 desktop, & server, and am now using the alternate install disk >< is there something newer, or should that be working on 6.10 (ie: my equipment is suspect)
[10:13] <enaut> maddash what about the configuration and e-mail an stuff will that stay if i dont format anything?
[10:13] <sudo_maddash> enaut: probably not.
[10:13] <sudo_maddash> enaut: tell me what you need to keep.
[10:13] <Jowi> Bhaskar, these are the versions that got installed for me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/815/
[10:14] <cafuego> soup_: Well, it's hard to get stuff that won't work (at all) on 6.10, but you may want to give the rc1 version of 7.04 a try just in case
[10:14] <enaut> mad dash and is there a way to export the installed packates list?
[10:14] <acab_> with dpkg --purge i dont' konw the name of the pakcage :( the error was: A previous installation of VMware Software has been detected.
[10:14] <mena> yoshiznit123, Are you here
[10:14] <Jowi> Bhaskar, do some digging for the correct files at http://archive.ubuntu.com
[10:15] <acab_> i've tryied VMware
[10:15] <sudo_maddash> enaut yes. there is.
[10:15] <enaut> how?
[10:15] <yoshiznit123> mena, yea
[10:15] <sudo_maddash> ena: ut: dpkg --get-selections > file-name
[10:15] <sudo_maddash> enaut: dpkg --get-selections > file-name
[10:15] <yoshiznit123> mena, although ur not answering the pm
[10:15] <mena> yoshiznit123, is * mean i cant use the account
[10:16] <mena> yoshiznit123, i answered
[10:16] <Jowi> Bhaskar, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/ . gawk, libntfs8 libfuse2 ntfsprogs and syslinux are in "main", the others in "universe"
[10:17] <enaut> maddash: but i cant get into any console of the linux i want to restore :(
[10:17] <mena> yoshiznit123, i am there
[10:17] <mdious> sudo_maddash:  didn't know about that one :)
[10:18] <yoshiznit123> mena, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/817/
[10:18] <yoshiznit123> that would probably be alot easier :-)
[10:18] <mena> yoshiznit123, okay
[10:19] <sudo_maddash> mdious: you're welcome. :)
[10:19] <mdious> sudo_maddash:  just tested it out then, very nice...always wanted something like that...should have read the man pages hehe...reminds me of /var/packages (or somewhere like that) on slackware :)
[10:19] <enaut> sudo_maddash: and what about the whole beryl stuff and so on i installed will that stuff stay?
[10:19] <mena> yoshiznit123, you give me that befro sure to use it
[10:20] <yoshiznit123> ?
[10:20] <imbecile> how do i kill azureus?
[10:20] <cafuego> killall java
[10:20] <mena> yoshiznit123, you give me that befor in the pm
[10:20] <simon^templar> hi hi hi XD
[10:20] <yoshiznit123> yea
[10:21] <yoshiznit123> that's what i'm using, i'm playing warcraft 3 as we speak :-)
[10:21] <imbecile> my azureus has a frozen warning dialog in the corner
[10:21] <yoshiznit123> imbecile, that's a know bug in the old versions of azureus
[10:21] <mena> yoshiznit123, okay
[10:21] <simon^templar> i need to know how to install x window for ubuntu 6.10 server (kde or gnome)?
[10:21] <mena> ^_^
[10:21] <mena> yoshiznit123,SOrry for disturbing you all the time
[10:21] <yoshiznit123> imbecile, to kill it you could just right click and exit, no?
[10:21] <sudo_maddash> enaut: nothign will stay. it's going to be a clean format.
[10:21] <imbecile> yoshiznit123,  how do i fix it?
[10:22] <finer> hey i had a quick quesiton: whats the command again for using your mouse to kill a process?
[10:22] <yoshiznit123> finer, xkill
[10:22] <imbecile> yoshiznit123,  no the error box stays there
[10:22] <finer> thanks
[10:22] <mena> Sorry Friends for the Accident And For the disrurbing .....Godbless
[10:22] <yoshiznit123> imbecile, are you using azureus from the repos?
[10:22] <yoshiznit123> later
[10:22] <enaut> oh no so ill have to save all the data... :(
[10:22] <imbecile> yoshiznit123,  yes
[10:23] <yoshiznit123> imbecile, and sun's java?
[10:23] <Jowi> simon^templar, to install the bare minimum for an x server see here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[10:23] <VIMmer> hi, i am trying to set up DNS on my local machine
[10:23] <imbecile> yoshiznit123,  i havent d/led any other java for it
[10:23] <imbecile> yoshiznit123,  i just installed azureus package
[10:24] <soup_> cafuego: was able to get it to work by switching from sata to raid mode in the bios, cherry now, thanks for your help.
[10:24] <mdious> mena:  what accident...?
[10:24] <Jowi> simon^templar, for the full monty simply run "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" for gnome or "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" for kde
[10:24] <VIMmer> i cant understand one thing in the zone file in /var/cache/bind/db.debubuntu.foo
[10:24] <the_rick> !raid
[10:24] <enaut> sudo_maddash: but i'll do that in the evening but thanks for help anyway
[10:24] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[10:24] <mena> No I jsut try To paste something and take a big usage of the screen
[10:24] <yoshiznit123> imbecile, ok if i remember correctly, azureus doesn't work well without the new java, so install the packages "sun-java5-bin" and "sun-java5-jre"
[10:24] <mena> :)
[10:24] <VIMmer> i am following the steps from: http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=846&print=1
[10:24] <VIMmer> can anyone please help me?
[10:24] <sudo_maddash> enaut: np.
[10:25] <yoshiznit123> inbecile, unless you are morally against non-free software :-)
[10:25] <enaut> and all the others too - thx for help - i'll go to work now cu
[10:25] <jamaas> Anyone game to help me sort out a fstab, missing mtab problem ?
[10:25] <imbecile> yoshiznit123,  ill give it a go
[10:25] <VIMmer> in the zone definition file, there is a line: example.com.    IN SOA    ns1.example.com. admin.example.com. ( ...
[10:25] <Balsamic_Chicken> test
[10:26] <VIMmer> why are there 2 addresses?
[10:26] <mena> Bye Bye Friends And Sorry Again...God Bless
[10:26] <VIMmer> i have to replance ns1 with the domail name of my machine, but what does the 2nd stand for?
[10:27] <Dormot> hi guys, can anyone tell me how to add this pc(ubuntu) to my windows network so other pcs can acess the files in it
[10:27] <Jowi> ubotu, tell Dormot about samba
[10:27] <eXistenZ> Jowi, Are you on gnome or kde?
[10:27] <Dormot> i finally fixed the resolution problem :)
[10:28] <imbecile> wow the repos are going super fast for me right now
[10:28] <Jowi> eXistenZ, neither. running Beryl + gDesklets only (http://burninghands.eu/pics/Screenshot.png)
[10:28] <DARKGuy> Holy.... cow. Beryl friggen' rocks. Too bad it doesn't work with FluxBox :( anybody know a VERY lightweight and fast non-WM thing? (not like XFCE, but are there others?)
[10:28] <eXistenZ> Jowi, How much memory do you have?
[10:29] <mena> yoshiznit12, My Freinds thansk For The Soultion...Great thanks
[10:29] <Jowi> eXistenZ, 512MB RAM
[10:29] <Balsamic_Chicken> clark0820 hello, are u getting this?
[10:29] <the_rick> Is there no way to set up RAID/LVM from scratch in the graphical installer?
[10:29] <eXistenZ> Jowi, I find beryl quite slow on 512MB
[10:29] <clark0820> B_chicken, yes I got the msg
[10:29] <mdious> DARKGuy:  I like blackbox...there is like openbox, fvwm etc...a google search for linux lightweight window managers brings up some stuff you might like
[10:30] <Jowi> eXistenZ, for me it is very very fast. running it on a dual core mac mini. it flies.
[10:30] <DARKGuy> mdious, but it is said that any box WMs don't work with Beryl since Beryl is a WM itself :/
[10:30] <clark0820> B_chicken, u screen name is too long I have to shorten it to B_chicken
[10:30] <eXistenZ> Jowi, I have 3Ghz Prescott. it kinda sucks
[10:30] <lupine_85> clark0820: s/b_ch/Bal<tab>
[10:31] <mdious> DARKGuy:  sorry I didn't read what you said properly
[10:31] <imbecile> yoshiznit123,  do i have to reboot before the new packages take effect?
[10:31] <DARKGuy> mdious, It's okay ^_^ thanks for answering though
[10:31] <yoshiznit123> imbecile, shouldn't but you have to update java
[10:31] <lupine_85> in decent IRC progs anyway :)
[10:31] <yoshiznit123> hold on a sec
[10:31] <Jowi> eXistenZ, maybe it's your graphic card that is not 100% supported. I have a builtin intel 945GM (shared memory even) here and it runs just fine.
[10:31] <Balsamic_Chicken> lupine_85 thx i didn't even know there was the shortcut
[10:31] <imbecile> yoshiznit123,  i downloaded it what should i do next?
[10:31] <yoshiznit123> imbecile, sudo update-alternatives --config java
[10:31] <the_rick> Dormot, do you have any experience with Samba?
[10:31] <yoshiznit123> and choose the one that has sun in it
[10:31] <lupine_85> tab completion++
[10:32] <Dormot> nope
[10:32] <Dormot> i installed it but thats it
[10:32] <the_rick> !samba
[10:32] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:32] <tonsofpcs> how do i change a user's home directory?
[10:33] <Balsamic_Chicken> clark0820 btw try out this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449, it looked like a decent diagonostic tool for sound card problems, i don't know how it might work out, but worth a try =)
[10:33] <the_rick> Dormot, get in synaptic and make sure samba is installed.
[10:33] <Dormot> ok
[10:33] <the_rick> Then you are going to edit the /etc/samba/smb.conf file
[10:33] <the_rick> it is a lot like a windows ini file if you are familiar with those
[10:34] <Dormot> im a nub so not really :(
[10:34] <mdious> Dormot:  don't worry you are not a....nub
[10:35] <the_rick> Dormot, Let me know when you have samba installed
[10:35] <Dormot> done
[10:36] <the_rick> :)
[10:36] <Dormot> sry
[10:36] <mdious> tonsofpcs:  try usermod
[10:36] <Dormot> wrong button
[10:36] <san> hi
[10:36] <san> hi
[10:37] <timbobsteve> hey
[10:37] <mdious> tonsofpcs:  usermod -d /home/new usernameyouwantdirectorychangedfor
[10:37] <mdious> (I think, I am probably wrong ^_^...http://www.computerhope.com/unix/usermod.htm)
[10:37] <timbobsteve> can someone help me with a weird problem? Gnome takes forever to start for some reason. It has only just started happening yesterday. I run
[10:38] <timbobsteve> i run 'top' and it says that CPU usage is 5%
[10:38] <jamaas> Is there an easy way to regenerate a fstab?
[10:39] <tonsofpcs> mdious: i did that, it updated /etc/passwd, but on login home is still /root
[10:39] <the_rick> Dormot, I've messaged you, can you see it?
[10:39] <Dormot> yes
[10:39] <eXistenZ> Jowi, How long it takes for your computer to open firefox as an example?
[10:39] <Dormot> but im not registeed
[10:40] <Dormot> i can see them but cant respond
[10:40] <the_rick> ahh, ok
[10:40] <Jowi> eXistenZ, 3-4 seconds
[10:40] <mdious> tonsofpcs:  never tried it with root user sorry....actually never done it with any user sorry
[10:40] <Dormot> so the page is open with options n stuff
[10:40] <raj> -bash: symbol lookup error: -bash: undefined symbol: rl_variable_value
[10:40] <the_rick> Dormot, so do you have a specific folder that you want to share or what?
[10:41] <Jowi> eXistenZ, that is if it was never opened before. it is instant if I already loaded it once
[10:41] <Dormot> yes, its on my desktop
[10:41] <the_rick> Do you know what chmod is?
[10:42] <Dormot> nop
[10:42] <mena> frineds what is the best anti virus program
[10:42] <maddash> mena: linux
[10:42] <the_rick> Dormot, Ok, I'm gonna help you get this up quick, but for security, you should read up on file permissions
[10:42] <eXistenZ> Jowi, same here. I once tried beryl, but I don't like to wait 2 secs for those wiggling windows everytime I want to open something
[10:42] <Dormot> ok
[10:42] <mdious> tonsofpcs:  were you logged in as root when you did it...maybe that had something to do with it...i dunno sorry....i'm off.  Good Luck.
[10:43] <eXistenZ> Jowi, and when you open lots of stuff, it just gets crammed and impractical
[10:43] <mena> maddash, Mean
[10:43] <tonsofpcs> yes
[10:43] <tonsofpcs> nite
[10:43] <maddash> mena: I was serious
[10:43] <enaut> wethter you believe it or not I just reviewed my /boot/grub/menuelist and found that there arethe root patitions wrong defined I changed two numbers and everything is working again...
[10:43] <mena> maddash, i am not kiding how to get it
[10:44] <maddash> mena: how to get linux? aren't you using it?
[10:44] <enaut> thx go to maddash
[10:44] <the_rick> Dormot, get all that?
[10:44] <maddash> enaut : huh??
[10:44] <mena> i am talking about the program ...and yes for linux
[10:44] <Jowi> eXistenZ, that can be turned off. I only use the useful stuff (ummm, that doesn't sound right). I find beryl very practical. I don't have any use for a taskbar for example. if i want to find a window i just twitch my pointer up to the top right corner and, voila, all applications presented to me ready to be clicked.
[10:44] <Dormot> yes
[10:45] <Dormot> i already have some info there
[10:45] <Dormot> do i replace it all?
[10:45] <maddash> mena: you don't need one.
[10:45] <the_rick> no
[10:45] <the_rick> just add it to the bottom
[10:45] <Dormot> ok
[10:45] <enaut> you read that maddash? wethter you believe it or not I just reviewed my /boot/grub/menuelist and found that there arethe root patitions wrong defined I changed two numbers and everything is working again...
[10:45] <the_rick> then save and close
[10:45] <mena> maddash, okay but what will tell me that is there a virus or its preventing them
[10:46] <eXistenZ> Jowi, Is it possible to install windows on the mini mac?
[10:46] <maddash> enaut: congrats.
[10:46] <enaut> but now i really have to go to work cu
[10:46] <Dormot> ok
[10:46] <Dormot> its done
[10:47] <the_rick> Dormot, now get back to a terminal window and type sudo chmod 777 /path/to/folder/to/share
[10:47] <the_rick> but placing the path to the folder you want to share
[10:47] <Jowi> eXistenZ, yes. well, xp sp2 is minimum requirements. but for that you need first to boot osX, download bootcamp to burn a xp drivers cd and to resize the partitions. it works well to dual boot. but I got fed up with OSX so now I have XP (which I booted once in 6 months) and Ubuntu only
[10:48] <Dormot> wait
[10:48] <Dormot> 1 sec
[10:48] <the_rick> ok
[10:48] <eXistenZ> Jowi, To feel the gaming experience one needs windows :-)
[10:48] <meddi> evening all
[10:48] <Dormot> i replace /home/samba/public with the folder i wanna share?
[10:48] <the_rick> yes
[10:48] <the_rick> in that file
[10:48] <Dormot> ok
[10:49] <Jowi> eXistenZ, absolutely agree. luckily for me I don't game much.
[10:49] <eXistenZ> Jowi, It is sad that games are windows-oriented.
[10:50] <meddi> can any one help, i've loaded ubuntu 6.10 to dual boot. start ubuntu, get the message Starting Up... then the screen goes blank
[10:50] <Starcraftmazter> hey, what is the location of the floppy drive on ubuntu?
[10:51] <lupine_85> you need to mount it
[10:51] <lupine_85> device file is /dev/fd0, probably
[10:51] <Dormot> ok its done
[10:51] <Dormot> now what?
[10:51] <Atlanta80> I have recently setup Ubuntu 6.10 on an older machine of mine, it has a i810 video card, when I switch to the command like (Ctrl+Alt+F1) the screen flips out and just gives me green lines everywhere, but I can switch back to X just fine. I'm thinking it's an FB problem...
[10:51] <eXistenZ> Jowi, Do you know what are the names of some certification exams for linux sys admin?
[10:52] <the_rick> that last command I told you...
[10:52] <Dormot> i did that
[10:52] <the_rick> sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[10:52] <Dormot> done
[10:52] <Dormot> how do i know if i can access the folder
[10:52] <Starcraftmazter> how do I mount it
[10:52] <Jowi> eXistenZ, no, but I do know IBM got some, Redhats are pretty good I heard as well. Novell (R.I.P) also have good ones.
[10:52] <the_rick> ok, if all went well, you should be able to go to your windows machine and do run \\theIPofyourmachine
[10:53] <Dormot> ok
[10:53] <the_rick> and there should be a share named linux-share
[10:53] <Dormot> cool
[10:53] <emss> I just installed tremulous using apt-get install tremulous and am using the nvidia-glx-legacy driver and the game does not start
[10:53] <Dormot> tnx
[10:53] <the_rick> knock on wood
[10:53] <soup_> what is the command line equivalent for Server of System => Administration => Update Manager in Desktop?
[10:53] <emss> I get this error when running tremulous from gnome-terminal SDL_SetVideoMode failed: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[10:54] <Dormot> 1 more thing, how do i find the IP of this PC
[10:54] <the_rick> no problem...but remember, read up on file permissions...
[10:54] <the_rick> as of right now, anyone that can access that IP address can read or write to or from that folder
[10:54] <Dormot> how can i find my ip?
[10:54] <the_rick> ifconfig
[10:55] <the_rick> at the terminal
[10:55] <Dormot> k
[10:55] <Atlanta80> Anybody on how to modify framebuffer settings on the CLI or if Ubuntu even sets up a FB?
[10:55] <Jowi> emss, type "glxinfo | direct" and see if direct rendering is on maybe
[10:56] <Jowi> !framebuffer | Atlanta80
[10:56] <ubotu> Atlanta80: If you would like information on framebuffers, please visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[10:56] <Atlanta80> tyvm
[10:56] <the_rick> Is it possible to set up RAID/LVM from scratch in the graphical installer or do I have to use the alternate cd with text installer?
[10:56] <Jowi> Atlanta80, what you're looking for should be on the bottom of that page
[10:56] <emss> Jowi: I get a bunch of errors Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:56] <Dormot> the_rick, it asks me for a PW and username
[10:57] <emss> Jowi: my xorg.conf has Load "dri" Load "glx"
[10:57] <Atlanta80> ah this should help very much. Thanks again Jowi
[10:57] <Starcraftmazter> yo how do i mount a floppy disk
[10:57] <Dormot> i use the one from my pc but doesnt work
[10:57] <the_rick> hmmm
[10:57] <maddash> emss: does "glx" exist?
[10:57] <the_rick> Dormot, The file I gave you for smb.conf should allow anyone to access that folder
[10:57] <lupine_85> Starcraftmazter: sudo mount -t auto /dev/fd0 /path/to/mountpoint
[10:58] <Dormot> mm
[10:58] <emss> maddash: how would I check this is a fresh 6.10 install with updates and the nvidia-glx-legacy and tremulous packages installed
[10:58] <Dormot> now i cant acces the /etc/samba/smb.conf file
[10:58] <Starcraftmazter> whats path/to/mountpoint?
[10:58] <Dormot> says access denied
[10:59] <Jowi> emss, i don't know. only configured one nvidia card in my life on ubuntu. worked well so i don't know how to troubleshoot that
[10:59] <Dormot> ok forget the last part
[11:00] <lupine_85> Starcraftmazter: where you want it mounting
[11:00] <lupine_85> typically /mnt or /media/floppy
[11:00] <Starcraftmazter> does it have to exist?
[11:00] <lupine_85> yes
[11:01] <Starcraftmazter> oh cool thanks
[11:01] <Starcraftmazter> works
[11:01] <Starcraftmazter> :)
[11:02] <Starcraftmazter> is there a way to use the gnome terminal like putty?
[11:02] <Starcraftmazter> because putty can be quite awkward
[11:03] <Dormot> rick how do i do the testparm
[11:03] <the_rick> at the terminal
[11:03] <IntuitiveNipple> Starcraftmazter, you mean as an SSH client?
[11:03] <Jowi> Starcraftmazter, simply type "ssh user@ipaddress"
[11:04] <Kayin> Hey guys, I've got a problem starting tomcat5.
[11:04] <Kayin> It worked fine yesterday when I installed it.
[11:05] <Kayin> But when I /etc/init.d/tomcat start now, the status says "Tomcat 5 servlet engine is running with Java pid ****" but seconds later it says "Tomcat 5 servlet engine is not running, but pid file exists."
[11:05] <Dormot> i get this sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[11:05] <Dormot> wait
[11:05] <Jowi> Kayin, this is just a hunch. remove the pid and try again
[11:05] <Dormot> Load smb config files from /etc/samba/smb.conf
[11:05] <Dormot> Processing section "[printers] "
[11:05] <Dormot> Processing section "[print$] "
[11:05] <Dormot> Processing section "[venom1588] "
[11:05] <Dormot> Processing section "[linux-public] "
[11:05] <Dormot> Loaded services file OK.
[11:06] <Jowi> Kayin, it is probably in /var/run
[11:06] <san> hm
[11:06] <mena> Sorry Friends But more question...that what will hapened if i get mp3s files and it was contain a virus but for widows xp what will hapened withme in linux
[11:06] <the_rick> hmm, that all looks ok
[11:06] <san> hm
[11:06] <Jowi> mena, nothing
[11:07] <lupine_85> mena: MP3 files don't hold viruses
[11:07] <lupine_85> and it wouldn't run if it was a .exe renamed to a .mp3
[11:07] <mena> lupine_85, okay not the mp3 ...any other file
[11:07] <mena> it will not do any thing
[11:07] <lupine_85> it wouldn't run
[11:07] <Dormot> i still cant access it
[11:07] <mena> ok
[11:08] <Kayin> Jowi: What would I be looking for in /var/run ? There's nothing in there that's tomcat related.
[11:08] <lupine_85> windows uses the PE executable format; linux uses ELF
[11:08] <Dormot> [linux-public] 
[11:08] <Dormot>         comment = server shared space
[11:08] <Dormot>         path = /home/venom1588/Desktop/Shared
[11:08] <Dormot>         read only = No
[11:08] <Dormot>         create mask = 0666
[11:08] <Dormot>         directory mask = 0777
[11:08] <Dormot>         guest ok = Yes
[11:08] <Kayin> Sorry, I'm pretty new to Linux..
[11:08] <lupine_85> !pastebin
[11:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:08] <fuffal0> i've got another computer with onboard video, and it's got *extremely* laggy video in X, i assume it has the wrong driver - but i dont know what kind of onboard video it is - any ideas?
[11:09] <Jowi> Kayin, normally the pids are in there like /var/run/gdm.pid for example. it might be that tomcat stores its pid somewhere else. i wouldn't know
[11:09] <lupine_85> Dormot: are your masks the wrong way round?
[11:09] <Kayin> Yeah, I see a whole bunch of *.pid files that have the same names of services I already run such as sshd and apache2 and such.
[11:09] <IntuitiveNipple> fuffal0: the xorg log reports it all - but I can't remember where I saw it earlier today :(
[11:09] <the_rick> Dormot,  hold on just a sec...
[11:09] <Dormot> lupine_85, what u mean
[11:10] <fuffal0> IntuitiveNipple - i think it's using the wrong driver tho and i don't know what/how to tell it otherwise
[11:10] <IntuitiveNipple> fuffal0: It'll tell you the device, and from that you can Google or whatever for the correct driver
[11:11] <IntuitiveNipple> I did that earlier and now I've got my TwinHead dual monitors running just as in Windows
[11:11] <mena> i installl the kopote and it had alot of erros is that bec its just for kubuntu
[11:11] <the_rick> Dormot, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/820/
[11:11] <mena> not working on ubuntu
[11:11] <Dormot> the rick i thnk the masks are wrong
[11:11] <the_rick> you forgot a few lines I think
[11:12] <Dormot> comment = Users profiles
[11:12] <Dormot> ;   path = /home/samba/profiles
[11:12] <Dormot> ;   guest ok = no
[11:12] <Dormot> ;   browseable = no
[11:12] <Dormot> ;   create mask = 0600
[11:12] <Dormot> ;   directory mask = 0700
[11:12] <Dormot> and u gave me diff masks
[11:13] <the_rick> did you see my post
[11:13] <iheartsynaptic> hi.... i'm trying to convert from windows... but struggling with wireless is shaking my faith...
[11:13] <brutopia> iheartsynaptic: what's the problem
[11:13] <the_rick> try it out exactly without leaving anything out
[11:13] <the_rick> you were missing the guest ok param
[11:14] <iheartsynaptic> brutopia: how do i start? Just to make sure I haven't missed any steps
[11:14] <Past_Images> hi guys can anyone help me out. i installed ubuntu on a hardrive that i then fitted to a different machine and it's not booting, althought i do get as far as the splash screen
[11:14] <brutopia> iheartsynaptic: is there wireless devices listed if you run iwconfig
[11:14] <thoreauputic> !wifi| iheartsynaptic
[11:14] <ubotu> iheartsynaptic: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:14] <Dormot> ok i tried it
[11:14] <Dormot> lets ee
[11:14] <Dormot> see
[11:15] <brutopia> Past_Images: try recovery mode
[11:15] <the_rick> don't forget you will have to do a sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[11:15] <Dormot> yea
[11:16] <Past_Images> ok this is the error msg in recovery mode: /bin/sh; can't access tty; Job control turned off 'initframfs)
[11:17] <Neno> hello, i got a question, hope i can get an answer this way...
[11:17] <Dormot> still dont work
[11:17] <Dormot> i dunno whats wrong
[11:17] <thoreauputic> Neno: don't ask to ask - just ask :)
[11:17] <the_rick> I'm pretty sure the mask is right
[11:18] <iheartsynaptic> brutopia: sorry for the wait... What's the difference between amd64 and i386
[11:18] <thoreauputic> iheartsynaptic: 32 bits :)
[11:18] <Dormot> is there suppose to be "guest" line somewhere?
[11:18] <Neno> i downloaded the ubuntu 6.10 dekstop edition (1 cd) - for the 64bit architecture, booted from the cd, and wanted to install it right away... The installation went smoothly, just until the 94% - installation of grub...
[11:18] <the_rick> Dormot, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/820/
[11:18] <Neno> and then: fatal error...
[11:18] <Dormot> i did that exactly
[11:18] <brutopia> iheartsynaptic: what kind of processor do you have
[11:19] <iheartsynaptic> thoreauputic: ok, i'm not using amd64 so i should choose 1386?
[11:19] <iheartsynaptic> *i386
[11:19] <brutopia> choose i386 then
[11:19] <thoreauputic> iheartsynaptic: umm - youcan use either
[11:19] <the_rick> the publc line should take care of it...
[11:19] <soup_> how can I tell apt-get that the drive I installed from is no longer available and I want it to go to the net?
[11:19] <thoreauputic> iheartsynaptic: i386 will be easier in a number of ways
[11:19] <Neno> i tried to install ubuntu few times, and every time it stops at 94%? Any hints?
[11:19] <the_rick> hmm, well, that works on my system.
[11:19] <thoreauputic> iheartsynaptic: ah sorry I misread - yes i386
[11:20] <thoreauputic> Neno: what's the error message?
[11:20] <Past_Images> is the error fixable guys?
[11:20] <Neno> don't know the exact message, but my guess is there's a problem with grub installation, more precise, the location of grub-installation
[11:21] <Neno> at the beginning, in step 4 or 5 (don't know..) the default location for installing grub is set to: (hd0)...
[11:21] <thoreauputic> Neno: grub normally installs to the MBR - and "fatal" doesn't tell us much :)
[11:21] <Dormot> idunno
[11:21] <Dormot> ill just try some other time
[11:21] <yoshiznit123> is there a way to play a wav file backwards? gnome-sound-recorder doesn't do it
[11:21] <Neno> what's the ekvivalent of MBR in linux - hd0 or sd0?
[11:21] <iheartsynaptic> brutopia, thoreauputic: ok, so I download the package then apt-get install as root?
[11:22] <Neno> or something else?
[11:22] <Dormot> backmaskin eh
[11:22] <thoreauputic> iheartsynaptic: sorry I haven't followed the whole convo - what are you installing?
[11:22] <Jowi> soup_, not sure you can. but you can apt-get -d to download only. then enter /var/cache/apt/archives and transfer the files to the other computer through other means
[11:22] <brutopia> iheartsynaptic: just use the GUI package manager shipped with ubuntu
[11:22] <brutopia> then you don't have to know about i386 or amd64
[11:23] <Neno> MBR for the older ata HD-s is hd0, anr for SATA drives is sd0 - is this right?
[11:23] <Dormot> ok how do i register my nickname?
[11:23] <thoreauputic> Neno: depends on what kind of hard drive - a sata drive would be sd0 I think, for instance
[11:23] <Dormot> !nickname
[11:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nickname - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:23] <Dormot> dont work!!
[11:23] <ghjmgj> Hello
[11:23] <ghjmgj> !list
[11:23] <jpjacobs> Dormot: /msg nickserv register password i think
[11:23] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:23] <iheartsynaptic> thoreauputic: i'm trying to install ndiswrapper and ndisgtk to work my wireless adapter
[11:23] <thoreauputic> Dormot:  /msg nickserv register <password>
[11:23] <Neno> is it possible to change the default location of grub install in desktop edition?
[11:23] <iheartsynaptic> brutopia: is it the synaptic package manager?
[11:23] <Dormot> ok
[11:24] <ghjmgj> !list
[11:24] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:24] <thoreauputic> !synaptic| iheartsynaptic
[11:24] <ubotu> iheartsynaptic: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[11:24] <thoreauputic> iheartsynaptic: your nick suggests you know about it :)
[11:24] <Past_Images> hello if anyone can please help me with this error on boot: /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off (initframfs)
[11:25] <Dormot> rick, can you see that?
[11:25] <iheartsynaptic> thoreauputic: heheheh. i've been trying to install the ndiswrapper-utils for a few days now. but can't seem to get it to work. synpatic looks easy but it cant be installed using synaptic.
[11:26] <ghjmgj> hello
[11:26] <ghjmgj> !list
[11:26] <Dormot> !list
[11:26] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:26] <the_rick> Dormot, let's try one more thing...
[11:26] <Dormot> ok
[11:26] <thoreauputic> iheartsynaptic:  sudo aptitude install ndiswrapper-utils
[11:26] <the_rick> find the line in your smb.conf file where it says ;security = user
[11:27] <the_rick> or just security = user
[11:27] <the_rick> and change it to this
[11:27] <the_rick> security = share
[11:27] <Dormot> lemme open it again
[11:27] <iheartsynaptic> thoreauputic: what happens is that is says unable to find package ndiswrapper-utils
[11:27] <iheartsynaptic> *it
[11:27] <thoreauputic> !info ndiswrapper-utils
[11:28] <ubotu> ndiswrapper-utils: Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1-5 (edgy), package size 8 kB, installed size 48 kB
[11:28] <PORDO> what are the restricted packages called for playing .avi and such?
[11:28] <thoreauputic> iheartsynaptic: it's in main - check your /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:28] <PORDO> i have the lines in my sources.list
[11:29] <Dormot> for user name
[11:29] <Dormot> what do i put
[11:29] <the_rick> did you do a restart?
[11:29] <iheartsynaptic> thoreauputic: ok, a few websites uses make command, is it the same for ubuntu?
[11:29] <the_rick> it shouldn't ask you for a user name
[11:29] <Dormot> yes
[11:29] <Dormot> damn
[11:30] <Dormot> i did restart i
[11:30] <Dormot> tt
[11:30] <IntuitiveNipple> How can I set separate Wallpapers for each of my monitors, or have it repeat the same Wallpaper on each?
[11:31] <PORDO> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse
[11:31] <PORDO> can someone tell me why this isn't working?
[11:32] <Dormot> i give up, doesnt work
[11:32] <jpjacobs> PORDO, perhaps thepackage doesn't exist. try seaching packages in synaptic, or with apt-cache search <package>
[11:33] <gharz> how do i install .tar.gz? i'm planning to update my firefox by downloading from the site. i typed tar -zxvf file.tar.gz... is this correct?
[11:33] <Neno> question: is sd0 = sda? --> the location of MBR on sata disk?
[11:33] <jpjacobs> Neno, yes
[11:33] <DarthLappy> gharz: That should extract the archive, yes.
[11:33] <PORDO> jpjacobs i did apt-cache search.
[11:34] <jpjacobs> gharz, you'll b e better of not installing tar.gz's unless absolutely necessary, use apt-get or synaptic instead.
[11:34] <gharz> DarthLappy, it would only extract the file? uhmmm... i'll check on how i can install it.
[11:34] <PORDO> jpjacobs doh! the name was just a little off. thx
[11:34] <DarthLappy> gharz: There'd be instructions inside.
[11:34] <gharz> jpjacobs, apt-get doesn't have the latest version yet
[11:34] <thoreauputic> !ff|gharz
[11:34] <ubotu> gharz: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[11:34] <gharz> DarthLappy, thanks
[11:34] <Past_Images> ok just gonna reinstall with dapper instead of edgy. thanks anyway
[11:35] <Dormot> thnx for help rick
[11:37] <jpjacobs> gharz, seems to me the info on that wikipage thoreauputic was talking about is a little out dated. they still talk about FF 1.5. i would be carefull...
[11:38] <gharz> ok
[11:38] <gharz> thanks
[11:38] <fromvega> Hello!
[11:38] <thoreauputic> jpjacobs: the principles for installing the latest ff are still the same
[11:38] <thoreauputic> jpjacobs: and if you are running edgy you don't need to
[11:39] <thoreauputic> jpjacobs: dapper still uses 1.5 ( 1.5.09 currently I think)
[11:39] <jpjacobs> could be...
[11:39] <thoreauputic> jpjacobs: no could be about it
[11:40] <thoreauputic> jpjacobs: I just followed that wiki today on dapper
[11:41] <thoreauputic> jpjacobs: if you don't use dpkg-divert etc your default browser will still be the Ubuntu version
[11:41] <TLE> Hey I have a problem. Firefox wont start. I tried runninf sh -x /usr/bin/firefox to see if I could figure out what was wrong. It complained about a syntax error in line 121
[11:41] <jpjacobs> thoreauputic, ok it is like that... but if you use dapper, and you use it because it's rock-stable, then you don't go udateing by hand the about most critical (meaning the package that if it's vulerable can give acces to your sytem) by hand.
[11:41] <TLE> this line looks like this: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${LD_LIBRARY_PATH/:\/usr\/lib\/mozilla-thunderbird:/:}
[11:41] <jpjacobs> -by hand
[11:41] <TLE> can anybody see if there is anything wrong ?
[11:42] <thoreauputic> jpjacobs: umm, the mozilla ff 2.0.0.1 is stable, and the instructions put it in /opt, and the old ff remains
[11:42] <thoreauputic> jpjacobs: it isn't really needed though, true
[11:43] <Balsamic_Chicken> I only participte 4 GI space for the Ubantu, and now it's complaining don't have enough space, only 156 Mb left, what should I do??
[11:43] <tiffany123> Hi
[11:43] <jpjacobs> Balsamic_Chicken, apt-get clean for a starter
[11:44] <tiffany123> Because I have to reconfigure my network I deactivatet the WLAN Encryption. Then I deleted the ASCII-Key in my ubuntu system prefences. But I cant connect to the wireless network now, how to fix it ?
[11:45] <tux> is there any way to view jpgs in console?
[11:45] <DarthLappy> tux: How would that work...?
[11:45] <thoreauputic> jpjacobs: re: your comments - if you don't understand what the wiki page instructions mean, then I agree that you shouldn't follow them blindly. I do, so I feel fine using them
[11:45] <jpjacobs> tux, if you have framebuffer, you can use fbi
[11:45] <Balsamic_Chicken> jpjacobs what does apt-get clean do
[11:45] <Balsamic_Chicken> jpjacobs how could i add more space tho
[11:46] <thoreauputic> Balsamic_Chicken: cleans the cached packages out
[11:46] <tux> jpjacobs, sorry whats that?
[11:46] <jpjacobs> Balsamic_Chicken, it throws away the packagefiles, you dowloaded. (it doesn't uninstall them, just the archives)
[11:46] <thoreauputic> Balsamic_Chicken: gives you more space
[11:46] <Balsamic_Chicken> thoreauputic is there some way to increase the size of the paritition
[11:46] <tux> DarthLappy, any way to view jpgs or other files in console?
[11:46] <thoreauputic> Balsamic_Chicken: yes, you can do it from a live CD with gparted - but you need adjoining space on the disc
[11:47] <jpjacobs> tux, put vga=791 in your /boot/grub/menu.lst on the optionsline (look in the comments)
[11:47] <tux> jpjacobs, i hav e done that
[11:47] <jpjacobs> tux, then you'll have frambuffer support. now you can install fbi (an imageviewer for framebuffer), and view your images
[11:50] <Kayin> Gah, still no luck with the tomcat5 thing.
[11:51] <thoreauputic> !msg
[11:51] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[11:52] <fawaz> hi allllllllll
[11:52] <jpjacobs> hi
[11:52] <cherva> can anyone help me with installing of WINE with ./configure I get checking for C compiler default output file name...
[11:52] <cherva> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[11:52] <emss> hello, i keep getting this error when I run glxinfo ro try to start tremulous: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"., I have apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy and have edited xorg.conf to use nvidia over nv
[11:53] <jpjacobs> cherva, no need to comile, wine is in the repos
[11:53] <jpjacobs> !wine
[11:53] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:53] <cherva> i know but i want to install it this way
[11:53] <fawaz> can someone help me please i need a fever
[11:53] <fawaz> ???????????
[11:53] <emss> a fever?
[11:53] <jpjacobs> !ask|fawaz
[11:53] <ubotu> fawaz: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:54] <metres> favor !?
[11:54] <cherva> anyone installed flash 8 pro with WINE ?
[11:54] <jpjacobs> cherva, have you installed build-essential?
[11:54] <fawaz> i want to practice for a CCNA (cisco certified networking ass ) exam  are there any semulators ?
[11:54] <Past_Images> cherva, can't be done, only flash 8 basic
[11:54] <Kayin> Okay, here's my problem, I installed tomcat5 yesterday and after the installation it worked fine, but when I try to start it now (with sudo /etc/init.d/tomcat5 start) it looks like it starts, but when I status it later it says the service is not running but the pid file exists, even though there's nothing tomcat related in /var/run
 no I'll apt-get it now
[11:55] <emss> hello?
[11:56] <fromvega> I have installed Ubuntu Server 6.10, can I revert it to 6.06 without losing the current configuration?
[11:56] <TLE> could someone please paste their /usr/bin/firefox script in a pastebin, in a standard updated 32 bit edgy version
[11:57] <cyphase> does anyone know of a "screensaver" that lets you see your desktop, but asks to unlock when you try to do anything?
[11:57] <jpjacobs> fromvega... never tried that. but you could change all edgy's to dappers in /etc/apt/sources.list and then do apt-get install distupgrade. but i don't know wheter that will work or not
[11:58] <cherva> thx  build-essential apt-geted and flex and bison too now WINE is ./configure-ed :)
[11:58] <TLE> fromvega: you rally should try and look in the wiki, up- and downgrades can to very wrong if they are not done correctly
[11:58] <TLE> really*
[11:59] <fromvega> tks!
[11:59] <ubaba> Hi
[11:59] <ubaba> I cant connect with WireLess
[12:00] <ubaba> How can I config
[12:00] <emss> I get Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". :(
[12:00] <thoreauputic> !wifi| ubaba
[12:00] <ubotu> ubaba: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:00] <ubaba> Laptop Conpaq V3000
[12:00] <jpjacobs> emms nvidia, or ati?
[12:01] <emss> jpjacobs: nvidia I have nvidia-glx-legacy installed
[12:01] <jpjacobs> emms then you need: nvidia-glx and linux-restricted-modules-<some version>
[12:02] <emss> jpjacobs: I ran apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy
[12:02] <thoreauputic> !nvidia
[12:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:02] <cyphase> Basically, I want to be able to lock the screen without a screensaver, and with everything continuing to look normal, e.g. the time apple isn't frozen, any notifications still popup, etc
[12:02] <jpjacobs> uhu, you need the non legacy i think
[12:02] <emss> jpjacobs: no this is a legacy card and in debian I used the nvidia-glx-legacy package
[12:02] <jpjacobs> ok
[12:03] <Kayin> Does anybody have any experience with running Apache Tomcat?
[12:03] <Past_Images> hi guys i need an old distro to install on an old box which wont boot the dapper livecd, it needs to be easy to install good with old hardware and be easy to use, we only use it for a screensaver in a shop window so any suggestions? it does need to have an easy picture slideshow screensaver and also it's go no internet connection....
[12:03] <jpjacobs> emms, take a look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see that the car uses nvidia, that dri is _not_ loaded , and glx is.
[12:04] <DiKKy> i have an awkward problem, after attemtting to copy some 15gigabytez from one usb disk(fat32) to another (ntfs) i know is experimental and it didnt work, no harm to any data so far, however i am now out of space in m relatively small home directory. And no matter ow many files i move and delete it doesnt affect the size does anyone know if there is some cache file problem ?
[12:04] <emss> jpjacobs: well I have Load "glx" in xorg.conf and Load "dri" commented out
[12:04] <SurfnKid> hello
[12:04] <SurfnKid> my desktop files are gone
[12:04] <SurfnKid> how can i refresh the desktop
[12:05] <jpjacobs> emms, look at the output of lsmod|grep nvidia, is it loaded?
[12:05] <rysiek|pl> guys, got a problem here - suddenly there are 300+ directories on my / (ext3), which are shown by ls -l  as: ?--------- ?  ?    ?     ?       ? name
[12:05] <adaptr> SurfnKid: if they are *gone* then refreshing the desktop won't do much
[12:05] <DiKKy> the thing is i am not able to login to my gui
[12:05] <emss> jpjacobs: yes, I have used these drivers before
[12:05] <jpjacobs> SurfnKid, tried logging out and back in?
[12:05] <DiKKy> i need my gui for real actual work
[12:05] <DiKKy> can anyone help ??
[12:05] <SurfnKid> adaptr, theyre not gone, its the second time today
[12:05] <SurfnKid> some app just freezes
[12:05] <jpjacobs> emss, then i don't know what could be wrong
[12:05] <ubaba> How can I change some desktop icons like that: folders, hd icons,...
[12:06] <SurfnKid> jpjacobs, yes but im downloading something and its half way
[12:06] <adaptr> SurfnKid: I assume you mean files *on* your desktop
[12:06] <Sir_Penguin> Hi everyone, just a really quick question :)
[12:06] <SurfnKid> adaptr, yeap, did it earlier, not sure if its nautilus or what
[12:06] <emss> jpjacobs: ok
[12:06] <SurfnKid> adaptr, maybe killing some app and reloading it
[12:06] <emss> jpjacobs: I will us nvidia legacy.run and see if that works
[12:06] <Sir_Penguin> I need to download the Ubuntu source for NdisWrapper using the internet but I currently cannot get the internet in Ubuntu, is there some other place I can get it easily?
[12:06] <jpjacobs> Dikky what errors do you get in /var/log/ (in the xorg on dunno what it's called)
[12:06] <adaptr> DiKKy: you probably can't login because there's no space left in your home directroy.. it won't be ableto start you a session in that case, but this would be of the "more than a little rare" variety
[12:07] <jpjacobs> DiKKy, the lines with E infront of them
[12:07] <DiKKy> yes adaptr thats correct
[12:07] <DiKKy> i get an error message
[12:07] <DiKKy> gdm says
[12:07] <DiKKy> check file privz
[12:07] <DiKKy> and/or
[12:07] <DiKKy> no space left
[12:07] <DiKKy> but
[12:07] <DiKKy> i am unable
[12:07] <adaptr> DiKKy: then you really need to move or delete some files from your home dir
[12:07] <DiKKy> to free up any space
[12:07] <DiKKy> i have been doing that
[12:07] <ubaba> Where I can get look&feel icons for ubuntu
[12:08] <DiKKy> i have an awkward problem, after attemtting to copy some 15gigabytez from one usb disk(fat32) to another (ntfs) i know is experimental and it didnt work, no harm to any data so far, however i am now out of space in m relatively small home directory. And no matter ow many files i move and delete it doesnt affect the size does anyone know if there is some cache file problem ?
[12:08] <adaptr> well, then it looks like you're stuck - why would you not be able to delete files in your own home dir ? what happens when you try ?
[12:08] <DiKKy> they disappear
[12:08] <adaptr> !icons | ubaba
[12:08] <ubotu> ubaba: Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[12:08] <DiKKy> ive doublechecked file privz
[12:08] <ubaba> I want to change some icons on my latop
[12:08] <DiKKy> either that
[12:08] <adaptr> hrpmh
[12:08] <DiKKy> or
[12:08] <jpjacobs> Dikky, they prollyt are in the trashcan
[12:08] <rysiek|pl> anybody?
[12:08] <DiKKy> um
[12:09] <DiKKy> if u paid any attention
[12:09] <DiKKy> u would notice
[12:09] <adaptr> me ! me !
[12:09] <DiKKy> that i have no gui
[12:09] <DiKKy> i am currently using another computer as i couldnt even start irssi on it
[12:09] <DiKKy> there is 0 bytes available
[12:09] <SurfnKid> i think its nautilus
[12:09] <DiKKy> if i delete something
[12:09] <DiKKy> no matter how big
[12:09] <adaptr> DiKKy: and you need a GUI for ....?
[12:09] <DiKKy> there is still 0 bytes
[12:09] <DiKKy> for WORK
[12:09] <DiKKy> besides i cant do anything with the cli either
[12:09] <DiKKy> except deleting files
[12:09] <jpjacobs> Dikky, then log in on a console, use ls to view directory contents, cd to ge to a dir, rm to remove files, and man to look up what the commands mean.
[12:10] <DiKKy> i know
[12:10] <DiKKy> ive been doing that
[12:10] <jpjacobs> ah right...
[12:10] <DiKKy> there is some cach problem probly related to the erroneous copy attempt between two usb disks
[12:10] <jpjacobs> then you really got yourself a weird problem
[12:10] <DiKKy> OR my file database (updatedb) is too large
[12:10] <Past_Images> hello anyone?
[12:10] <DiKKy> i dont know where its located though
[12:10] <jpjacobs> !ask
[12:10] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:11] <adaptr> DiKKy: that makes no sense - updatedb/locate would never screw up like this
[12:11] <DiKKy> well
[12:11] <DiKKy> my / is kinda filled
[12:11] <DiKKy> yesterday
[12:11] <DiKKy> it was
[12:11] <DiKKy> 500 mb free space
[12:11] <adaptr> DiKKy: and it's not *your* "file database" - it's just a search index
[12:11] <DiKKy> then i tried the copy operation
[12:11] <DiKKy> and after i rebooted
[12:11] <DiKKy> this shit happened
[12:11] <DiKKy> yeah but it takes space
[12:12] <adaptr> DiKKy: reboot into single user mode, and the space problem on /root will be gone - root always has 5% free space on the root filesystem
[12:12] <Sir_Penguin> Okay, I've finally found the source/
[12:12] <Sir_Penguin> :)
[12:12] <Sir_Penguin> Cya.
[12:12] <DiKKy> single user mode
[12:12] <DiKKy> what runlevel is this
[12:12] <adaptr> DiKKy: "single"
[12:12] <SurfnKid> it was galeon
[12:12] <DiKKy> init single ?
[12:12] <cypher1_> DiKKy: i think "0"
[12:12] <DiKKy> ha ha
[12:12] <jpjacobs> isn't it init s?
[12:12] <DiKKy> <3
[12:13] <DiKKy> ill try that bbiab
[12:13] <adaptr> DiKKy: that should work, yes
[12:13] <cypher1_> DiKKy: give single as parameter while booting..
[12:13] <DiKKy> when
[12:13] <SurfnKid> adaptr, galeon was holding nautilus
[12:13] <DiKKy> in the grub menu ?
[12:13] <adaptr> SurfnKid: that's just stupid - they're both browsers
[12:13] <tiffany> Hi
[12:14] <cypher1_> DiKKy: at the grub menu .. choose to edit options.. add "single" at the end and boot
[12:14] <tiffany> I lost my ICQ Password from GAIM, waht to do now ? :-/
[12:14] <SurfnKid> adaptr, soon as galeon was killed, nautilus was released and the files automatically refreshed
[12:14] <SurfnKid> adaptr, oh weird
[12:14] <DiKKy> well
[12:14] <SurfnKid> :)
[12:14] <DiKKy> im root now
[12:14] <tiffany> I have save the password in gaim so is there an option to read out ?
[12:14] <DiKKy> good
[12:17] <DiKKy> but the thing is
[12:17] <DiKKy> df -h gives output
[12:17] <DiKKy> size 9.2gb
[12:17] <DiKKy> used 9.0gb
[12:17] <DiKKy> avail 0
[12:17] <DiKKy> but ok
[12:17] <DiKKy> rebooting
[12:17] <adaptr> DiKKy: yes, but that's not true for you at this moment
[12:17] <DiKKy> right
[12:17] <DiKKy> k
[12:17] <DiKKy> testing with single
[12:17] <jpjacobs> tiffany, can't you go to the icq site, and request a ne one?
[12:17] <DiKKy> it may also be related to a faulty /etc/fstab i forgot to take a security copy before i edited it when trying to copy to the ntfs disk
[12:17] <tiffany> jpjacobs, no, I only saved so chars which I didnt remeber at the secure question
[12:17] <J_P> hi all
[12:17] <Death_Rider> hey
[12:17] <DiKKy> allright it appears im able to start xfce thanks guys , but still this is as root and insecure any ideas on what to do now ? just remove lots of software and hope the problem solves itself ?
[12:18] <jpjacobs> DiKKy, well yea, and review your fstab.
[12:18] <Death_Rider> look, when i try to install Ubuntu, on the ~5 step, where GNOME partition manager is, i get a msg "No Device Detected"... so i can't create partitions for the swap and other stuff
[12:18] <Death_Rider> wgy is that?
[12:18] <DiKKy> right
[12:18] <jpjacobs> and if you don't want to login as root do : su user , and log in after taht
[12:19] <DiKKy> k
[12:19] <DiKKy> is there any way to remove all of kde in one single command ?
[12:19] <DiKKy> and all of xfce
[12:19] <DiKKy> i have too much stuff
[12:19] <DiKKy> i just need gnome
[12:19] <adaptr> DiKKy: apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop
[12:19] <DiKKy> thanks
[12:20] <Death_Rider> can someone help me plz ? :P
[12:20] <adaptr> DiKKy: but I'd advise you to solve the homedir problem first
[12:20] <DiKKy> right
[12:20] <adaptr> Death_Rider: no need to panic, we read you
[12:20] <ubaba> ***adaptr: Im a newbie on linux, so I just want to learn about LINUX!
[12:20] <DiKKy> does gnome have cache files in my home dir ?
[12:20] <adaptr> Death_Rider: is your harddrive USB or SATA ?
[12:21] <adaptr> DiKKy: lots, you can delete most of them
[12:21] <DiKKy> and where do i find them ? .gnome/?
[12:21] <Death_Rider> i gues it's SATA cause it ain't connected via USB :P
[12:21] <adaptr> DiKKy: .gconf, .gnome, .gnome2, and some more subdirs all contain gnone info, but if you're planning on removing KDE anyway I'd start by rm -rf-ing /.KDE
[12:21] <adaptr> sorry, ~/.KDE, rather
[12:22] <DiKKy> yeah but as i said
[12:22] <DiKKy> i think its related to some huge cache file
[12:22] <DiKKy> due to the failed
[12:22] <adaptr> Death_Rider: and does ubuntu see it ?
[12:22] <DiKKy> operation
[12:22] <DiKKy> i attempted
[12:22] <DiKKy> thanks though
[12:22] <DiKKy> ill give u a report once im done fixing it ;)
[12:22] <adaptr> DiKKy: AFAIK Linux does not do that sort of thing - that sounds like a typical Windows kludge
[12:22] <DiKKy> yeah
[12:22] <adaptr> DiKKy: 10 to 1 it's all in the Trashcan
[12:22] <DiKKy> but i cant think of
[12:22] <DiKKy> any other solution
[12:22] <adaptr> I'd wipe that first
[12:23] <DiKKy> where is that? .trash ?
[12:23] <Death_Rider> well, when i put the ubuntu CD in and it launches from the CD, i can only see my DVD rom, my floopy but no HDD :/
[12:23] <DiKKy> when i rm files in the cli they dont go to traschan ???
[12:23] <Death_Rider> i should be able to see my hdd also/
[12:23] <floating> Hi. Is anyone here using some other graphical web browsers than firefox ? I am looking for something more lightweight
[12:23] <Death_Rider> ?
[12:23] <cafuego> floating: opera
[12:23] <Death_Rider> i also recommend opera, cause it rocks :P
[12:24] <jpjacobs> floating, extremely lightweight, but not much featrures: dillo!
[12:24] <floating> DiKKy: ~/.local/share/Trash/files
[12:24] <DiKKy> yeah opera ftw
[12:24] <jpjacobs> or links2 -g
[12:24] <DiKKy> thx
[12:24] <adaptr> Death_Rider: if you plan on installing to it, yes you certainly should see it...
[12:24] <Death_Rider> damn :/
[12:24] <Death_Rider> how do i make it see it? :/
[12:24] <Death_Rider> i know the HDD must be set on Master...
[12:24] <DiKKy> its empty
[12:24] <Death_Rider> and i believe it should see it
[12:25] <DiKKy> i dont use the traschan much
[12:25] <DiKKy> no surprise
[12:25] <adaptr> Death_Rider: go to system -> administration -> device manager
[12:25] <Death_Rider> oooh, i get lost there, there are sooooooo many different devices :)
[12:25] <Death_Rider> but i think i could find smth if i had to
[12:25] <DiKKy> my home directory is the same partitn as / though
[12:25] <Death_Rider> so what should i be looking for?
[12:26] <DiKKy> but purge was an invalid command
[12:26] <DiKKy> lol
[12:26] <DiKKy> *operation
[12:26] <lupine_85> apt-get remove --purge
[12:27] <DiKKy> wird
[12:27] <DiKKy> says 0 to remove
[12:27] <ubaba> apt-get install abc package without depencies??
[12:27] <DiKKy> think of something big and useless that is default that i can remove ?
[12:28] <adaptr> Death_Rider: an HDD device that looks like it is yours
[12:28] <adaptr> DiKKy: kOOo :)
[12:28] <adaptr> DiKKy: I sorta tripped on "useless"...
[12:28] <DiKKy> oh im running dapper
[12:28] <DiKKy> lol
[12:28] <pty> floating: have you tried epiphany?
[12:28] <DiKKy> right
[12:28] <DiKKy> well
[12:28] <DiKKy> damn
[12:29] <adaptr> DiKKy: how big is your root partition, then ? it sounds like it might be as little as 4GB
[12:29] <DiKKy> nah
[12:29] <DiKKy> 9.2gb
[12:29] <DiKKy> or 10GiB
[12:29] <DiKKy> or whatever
[12:29] <adaptr> that;s insane - but then I never put /home on the root partition if I can help it
[12:29] <DiKKy> nah that was a major mistake
[12:30] <DiKKy> i have another parttion with 6-7gb free space
[12:30] <DiKKy> (this is a laptop)
[12:30] <DiKKy> can i move
[12:30] <DiKKy> all the files
[12:30] <DiKKy> in my home dir
[12:30] <DiKKy> to that partition
[12:30] <floating> pty, nope..
[12:30] <DiKKy> and then mount it at homedir
[12:30] <DiKKy>  ?
[12:30] <adaptr> DiKKy: sure
[12:31] <kane77> DiKKy, do not spread your posts please
[12:31] <pty> floating: i recommend it; lighter than firefox and fits in well with the rest of the gnome desktop
[12:31] <DiKKy> sorry
[12:32] <kane77> DiKKy, np
[12:32] <floating> pty ok. I am just trying the dillo that jpjacobs mentioned. this feels great(if I manage to get macromedia and java and other things going on
[12:32] <Kayin> Does anybody have any experience with running Apache Tomcat?
[12:33] <disposable> when booting, i get 'Attempting manual resume' and 'attempt to access beyond end of device'. then the kernel panics. how do i make it NOT to resume from hibernation but to boot normally?
[12:33] <DiKKy> what properties do i need to assign the vfat partition to be able to use it as home dir for my user ?
[12:33] <DiKKy> in /etc/fstab
[12:34] <adaptr> DiKKy: oh.. vfat.. you can't, reformat it as ext3
[12:34] <disposable> DiKKy: rw,auto,users,umask=0000
[12:34] <Death_Rider> but what if i don't find my HDD device there? :/
[12:34] <adaptr> I would not do that
[12:34] <DiKKy> of course i can
[12:34] <disposable> DiKKy: but it is a very strange idea. no security, links wouldn't work, etc..
[12:34] <adaptr> Death_Rider: then perhaps you can try the alternate install CD and try to match a driver with your hardware... what is your mainboard, and what kind of drive do you have ?
[12:34] <DiKKy> i dont mind
[12:34] <adaptr> DiKKy: fine, whatever
[12:35] <DiKKy> im gonna do a reinstall later
[12:35] <jpjacobs> floating, you won't... dillo is way to limited for that. be happy you even get pictures ;)
[12:35] <DiKKy> i just need it to work today
[12:35] <floating> jpjacobs, ok. ;)
[12:36] <voltagex> hi, I'm having trouble getting a DVBT TV card to work
[12:37] <disposable> voltagex: hide it in your pocket then. maybe they wont notice :)
[12:37] <DiKKy> lol
[12:38] <voltagex> that's really helpful. Avermedia Hybrid PCI (AR16), SAA7134 based, known to work in Linux.
[12:39] <adaptr> voltagex: no need to pout.. we're not asking for you vriginity :)
[12:39] <adaptr> whatever that is ..whehe
[12:39] <voltagex> ffs, at least #gentoo tell you to recompile.
[12:40] <fredl> hi, it would seem that X generates a crashreport after I installed 6.10 from the alternate CD.
[12:40] <disposable> voltagex: insert saa7134,bt878, and mt352
[12:40] <fredl> I found out by looking at the /var/log/apport.log
[12:40] <voltagex> ooh, didn;t do bt878
[12:40] <voltagex> didn't think it was bt based
[12:40] <fredl> and a file is created in /var/crash/_usr_bin_Xorg.0.crash
[12:41] <disposable> voltagex: i didn't either, but without it it didn't want to work. maybe you'll need the feisty kernel.
[12:41] <fredl> what do I do with such a crash file??
[12:42] <fredl> BTW, I think it was caused because I removed the Option "DPMS" from xorg.conf and replaced with HorizSync and VertRefresh manually
[12:43] <fredl> but when I have the DPMS option in there, X shows up in a horrendous resolution.
[12:45] <Alex_Jones_Rocks> I can get commercial support from Canonical if I'm running gNewSense right?
[12:47] <chehgarg_> does anyone know how to get a netgear wireless wg311 v3 working on ubuntu edgy?
[12:48] <Alex_Jones_Rocks> chehgarg_, I can help you. Do you know what chip is inside it?
[12:48] <Alex_Jones_Rocks> chehgarg_, If not, open a terminal and type lspci.
[12:50] <chehgarg_> i don't see it listed actually
[12:51] <chehgarg_> is that because i'm using the ethernet card he already ahs installed(ihave to convert to wireless) his dog chews them up
[12:52] <chehgarg_> Alex_Jones_Rocks I found it! 02:09.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88w8335 [Libertas]  802.11b/g Wireless (rev 03)
[12:52] <[ID] -81863212> chehgarg_  8 8 6
[12:53] <fredl> anybody here still using a Voodoo 3 card by any chance?
[12:54] <Alex_Jones_Rocks> chehgarg_, "Marvell is said to be a company with an unusually poor record of supporting free operating systems."
[12:55] <chehgarg_> Alex_Jones_Rocks well what do i do then?
[12:55] <chehgarg_> the regular ethernet work.. but his GF says we have to get rid of the cord running through the house, cuz of the dog
[12:56] <Xyloc> Can anybody help me with WPA-PSK (TKIP) using Ubuntu-provided driver for RT2500?
[12:56] <DiKKy> thanks for the support guys. ill idle here now and maybe ill give something back to the community someday =) appreciate it.
[12:56] <Alex_Jones_Rocks> chehgarg_, You're SOL because the company that makes your hardware makes crap. Get a card with a RaLink chip in it.
[12:57] <Xyloc> Alex_Jones_Rocks: Can you help me witrh a Ralink WPA problem?
[12:57] <chehgarg_> Alex_Jones_Rocks but it's not my card, i'm settign it up for a friend, and i know he has no cash for a new card
[12:57] <chehgarg_> how can you tell what chip is in it when you go shopping for one?
[12:57] <cyzie> how do i avoid a user from being log when i view using the command last?
[12:57] <Kayin> Can anybody help me with my Tomcat problem? I installed tomcat5 trough apt-get yesterday and after the installation it worked fine (I connected to localhost:8180 succesfully), but when I tried to start it just now (with sudo /etc/init.d/tomcat5 start) it looks like it starts, but when I status it later it says the service is not running but the pid file exists, even though there's nothing tomcat related in /var/run ..
[12:58] <XCute4God> Hi guys! l(
[12:58] <XCute4God> ooops
[12:58] <XCute4God> ;)
[12:58] <chehgarg_> Alex_Jones_Rocks how would I go about it anyway? I mean maybe i'll get lucky and it will work
[12:58] <Alex_Jones_Rocks> chehgarg_, Best place to buy is from New Egg.
[12:58] <Alex_Jones_Rocks> Xyloc, Sorry nope
[12:59] <Alex_Jones_Rocks> chehgarg_, Look it up on the internet. If you have to get an Atheros card but that's discouraged.
[12:59] <XCute4God> anyone can help me? how can i hide my hard disk icons from my desktop????
[12:59] <Skat> I have a Netgear WG311T and it has an Atheros chip...works out of the box with Edgy
[01:00] <Xyloc> Alex_Jones_Rocks: Well you told chehgarg_ to get a Ralink chipset...
[01:01] <app> I have Ubuntu on a disk partition, but company policy (and Pointsec encryption in MBR) prevents me form installing a boot loader. Can I boot an Ubuntu disk partition by using the Ubuntu live CD, or by using some other well known live CD? I don't want to craft my own boot disk...
[01:01] <Alex_Jones_Rocks> Xyloc, Yes which I don't have on me at the moment nor do I use WEP or WPA, I have the wifi router hooked up to an OpenBSD machine and the only way to get passed the interface on the OpenBSD router is through SSH, heh.
[01:01] <Alex_Jones_Rocks> app, I think you can use a floppy that has GRUB on it, Google GRUB and floppy.
[01:02] <Xyloc> Alex_Jones_Rocks: Thanks for the clarification
[01:02] <Alex_Jones_Rocks> Xyloc, You're welcome.
[01:02] <app> Well, I don't have a floppy drive. BTW, I tried the GRUB multiboot spcial CD, but it failed / I failed to use it.
[01:02] <DiKKy> is "chmod 644 /home/dir" recursive ? y/n
[01:02] <emss> is there a working nvidia-glx-legacy package for 6.10?
[01:03] <Alex_Jones_Rocks> DiKKy, add -R
[01:03] <quasar8888> what does ubuntu use to prevent virus , spyware etc ?
[01:03] <chehgarg_> so Alex_Jones_Rocks you're saying you can't help get this thing working at all?
[01:03] <cyzie> how do i avoid a user from being log when i view using the command last?
[01:03] <DiKKy> where
[01:03] <XCute4God> Please, Anyone: How can i HIDE my desktop disk icons ???
[01:03] <Alex_Jones_Rocks> chehgarg_, No, because the hardware manufacturer does not respect you.
[01:03] <Xyloc> quasar8888: Use ClamAV for AV
[01:03] <[ID] -81863212> Xyloc  8 8 6
[01:04] <Xyloc> [ID] -81863212: Yes?
[01:04] <chehgarg_> ok. well thanks anyways, guess i'll find another way
[01:05] <quasar8888> What is Clam AV ?
[01:05] <Xyloc> quasar8888: Clam AV is an antivirus solution for Linux
[01:05] <[ID] -81863212> Xyloc  8 8 6
[01:06] <quasar8888> Where can I get Clam AV ?
[01:06] <XCute4God> Please, Anyone: How can i HIDE my desktop disk icons ???
[01:06] <Xyloc> quasar8888: Use apt-get
[01:06] <[ID] -81863212> Xyloc  8 8 6
[01:07] <Xyloc> Can anyone kill that ID-bot?
[01:08] <Xyloc> Is there an IRC-channel specializing on linux-wireless?
[01:09] <selinuxium_> Hi all, what is the difference between gstreamer 0.8 and 0.10? will they coexist together on the same system happily or should I be using one or the other?
[01:09] <crimsun> you should use gst0.10 wherever possible.
[01:09] <selinuxium_> crimsun: Cheers
[01:10] <Xyloc> Can Anybody help me with WPA, using a Ralink RT2500 chipset?
[01:12] <tito_linux> Last night I installed Beryl, it was running fine last night but this morning my X sessions seem to be messed up. When GNOME loads It only shows its loading the panel. The desktop & bottom panel don't function properly.
[01:15] <thrax> howdy all :) anyone know where i can get drivers for a giga-byte GA-K8VM800M motherboard ?\
[01:16] <waxfactor2nd> hi can anyone help me
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[01:16] <waxfactor2nd>  			 		 		 		 		hi ive just installed the nvidia driver via automatix but now i only can choose 640*480 in the screen resolution menu. this is a 1280*1024 screen so it is very anoying. how can i make it back to 1280*1024. it is a 6600gt and im running edgy
[01:16] <Hoag> Hey all. Can anyone tell me the command to open the System Monitor
[01:17] <n2diy> ! automatix | waxfactor2nd
[01:17] <ubotu> waxfactor2nd: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:17] <waxfactor2nd> ahh there must be some way to do it
[01:17] <waxfactor2nd> ?
[01:18] <gnomefreak> waxfactor2nd: try #automatix
[01:18] <waxfactor2nd> k
[01:18] <Hobbsee> !resolution | waxfactor2nd
[01:18] <ubotu> waxfactor2nd: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:18] <Flannel> !fixres | waxfactor2nd, this may or mightnt work, depending on what automatix did.
[01:18] <ubotu> waxfactor2nd, this may or mightnt work, depending on what automatix did.: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:18] <HHak> hello, is it possible to change the font of those text terminals (that can be acessed throught Ctrl+F1 etc.) ?
[01:18] <HHak> if so, how ? can you point me into right direction ?
[01:18] <HHak> please ...
[01:19] <linuxden> ubuntu would  not complete login this a.m. Until I started cable modem. I am on linksys router. any ideas why?
[01:19] <rikless> et bien mes premiers pas sur irc avec ubuntu :)
[01:19] <rikless> impecable
[01:19] <HHak> please talk english
[01:20] <n2diy> ! fr
[01:20] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:20] <Hoag> Hey all. Can anyone tell me the command to open the System Monitor?
[01:20] <elvelind_> how can I findout which package a certain file belongs too?
[01:20] <PuPPet> close
[01:20] <serishema> hoag: perhaps ksysguard?
[01:21] <Hoag> serishema: "bash: ksysguard: command not found"
[01:21] <HHak> please, can anyone tell me how can the font of the text terminals (Ctrl+Alt+F1, F2 etc.) be modified ?
[01:22] <serishema> hoag: oh okay you're using gnome
[01:22] <Godsey> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/825/  I get this error when trying to build a kernel package
[01:23] <hemppa> Hoag: gnome-system-monitor
[01:23] <Godsey> I copied config.server to config.server-vm
[01:23] <Godsey> is there something else I needed to do?
[01:23] <waxfactor2nd> that didnt work
[01:23] <thrax> Is anyone able to point me in the right direction for Giga-Byte motherboard drivers ?
[01:23] <waxfactor2nd> to restart the x
[01:23] <waxfactor2nd> anyone knows what i then could do?
[01:23] <Jowi> elvelind_, dpkg -S filename
[01:24] <fredl> hey guys I'm thinking of buying a used graphics board for the computer I'm building for my 6 year old.
[01:24] <fredl> Does anybody have any experience with the  AOpen GeForce 4 Ti4200 ?
[01:24] <fredl> does that card do 3D?
[01:24] <Hoag> hemppa: Thanks
[01:24] <Thug-N-Me> hi all
[01:24] <Xyloc> fredl: You bet it does
[01:25] <serishema> fredl: yes it works fine with the nividea binary drivers and does good enough 3d for cedega
[01:25] <fredl> oh that's cool to hear, so 15 euros for that card (the 64Mb version) isn't a bad deal huh?
[01:25] <Thug-N-Me> are there any settings i have to make to get a better download with the default gnome bittorent ?
[01:25] <serishema> fredl: sounds like a good deal to me
[01:26] <fredl> good. you have one yourself serishema?
[01:26] <fredl> or Xyloc.
[01:26] <waxfactor2nd> anyone how can i change the screen resolution, cant in the system screeen resolution
[01:26] <serishema> fredl: yes, but it's the 128mb version
[01:26] <gutterpunk> hi guys I need some help. I need to install grub via a chroot. I'm currently using the ubuntu live cd and I'm hoping to be able to install grub on the hard disk using it
[01:26] <fredl> what resolution do you use it at serishema?
[01:26] <serishema> 1280 by 1024 32 bit
[01:26] <Xyloc> fredl: Well I have a Gforce 6200, but it's still aGForce
[01:27] <fredl> well not all GForce's are the same right?
[01:27] <gutterpunk> Problem is, If I try grub-install hd0 or whatever I get: "azsper... does not have a corresponding bios drive"
[01:28] <gutterpunk> how can I fix this issue? it is on a production server so kinda urgent :s
[01:28] <serishema> gutterpunk umm for me i'd get out of the chroot environment and use ...
[01:28] <fredl> I mean I have to get something, and this GForce seems a lot snappier than the old Voodoo3 I'm trying to get to run right now and which I suspect has a hardware problem.
[01:28] <thrax> does anyone know where to get drivers for a GA-K8VM800M motherboard? im really desperate here guys. can't find these things anywhere
[01:28] <voltagex> I can't get my Avermedia Hybrid PCI (AR16), SAA7134 based, known to work in Linux.
[01:30] <mena> friends i need to unmount my partitions to reformate them
[01:30] <serishema> gutterpunk: mount your linux partition and make sure /boot is avilable then do grub_install --recheck --root-direct<path to /boot>
[01:30] <serishema> sorry that should be --root-directory
[01:31] <Thug-N-Me> i get a error trying to download something couldnt listen 98 address already in use any idea ?
[01:31] <mena> serishema, you mean me
[01:31] <serishema> umm possibly, whoever it was that was having the problem reinstalling grub using the livecd
[01:32] <mena> ! unmount
[01:32] <serishema> i had to do it recently so i was on the top of my head
[01:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unmount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:32] <serishema> !umount
[01:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:32] <mena> any know how
[01:33] <mena> there is no more users on the screen
[01:34] <fredl> what's the difference between AGP 4x and AGP 8x ?
[01:34] <mena> freinds i need help
[01:34] <mena> i want to unmount my partions
[01:35] <serishema> umount <path to mountpoint>
[01:35] <serishema> must be doing with sudo or as root
[01:35] <mena> okay
[01:35] <gutterpunk> serishema, I still get the error about the corresponding bios drives
[01:35] <serishema> also you cannot unmount your root partition while the system is running for reasons that should be obvious
[01:36] <serishema> gutterpunk: paste your command line?
[01:36] <fredl> how can I find out if my mainboard has AGP 8x or AGP 4x ?
[01:36] <jpjacobs> fredl, try lshw
[01:37] <mena> serishema, I TYPED the comand   command not found
[01:37] <n2diy> fredl: google.
[01:37] <serishema> mena: are you using the livecd?
[01:37] <mena> no
[01:37] <thrax> ive downloaded the drivers i wanted in .tgz. how do i install them ?
[01:37] <mena> i want unmount other partitions bec they cant appear in xp bec they are ext3
[01:37] <fredl> jpjacobs: lshw|grep -i agp gives product: 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge
[01:38] <mena> and i dont wont the problem wich enable it in the xp
[01:38] <serishema> mena: oh right grub_install isn't usually there unless you specifically install it, reboot from the CD and try again
[01:38] <gutterpunk> serishema,  sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda... could raid be the cause of ths problem?
[01:39] <fredl> jpjacobs: does that show if it's 8x or 4x ?
[01:39] <mena> i was usaly unmount them throw gparted nad it telling they mount on the mount point !!!!
[01:39] <temp_> I have deleted my privileged user account and need another one, I have a basic account and the root password. How can I add a priveleged user
[01:39] <mena> and*
[01:40] <Xyloc> mena, there is a tool to browse ext-based filesystems in the /tools directory of any Knppix or Ubuntu Live-CD
[01:40] <Xyloc> mena, check this out: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm
[01:40] <mena> okay
[01:41] <Xyloc> mena, it even does ReiserFS
[01:41] <mena> Xyloc, okay but they are ext3
[01:42] <jpjacobs> fredl, see for yourself. it's installed by default
[01:42] <temp_> How do I enable root login?
[01:42] <fredl> jpjacobs, huh?
[01:42] <temp_> I've done sudo passwd but it didn't work
[01:42] <mena> Xyloc, did it will work
[01:43] <fredl> jpjacobs, I don't understand. That's what lshw says, but how do I know if an AGP 8x card will run well in that slot?
[01:43] <Past_Images> hi what dir do i need to create so that glslideshow shows my photos and not ones of space ships in dapper??
[01:43] <mena> Xyloc, okay i see it thanks
[01:43] <jpjacobs> fredl, open a console, and key in "lshw|less" , than enter
[01:43] <Xyloc> mena: I didn't really understand your last sentence...
[01:43] <Xyloc> mena, nevermind
[01:43] <fredl> jpjacobs, yes, I did that....
[01:43] <mena> Xyloc, no problem never mind
[01:43] <jpjacobs> fredl, there you have a chance to see what slot it is... 4x or 8x
[01:44] <Godsey> fredl: doesn't your bios tell you?
[01:44] <fredl> jpjacobs, hmm it says a lot of things but I don't see whether it's 4x or 8x
[01:44] <fredl> Godsey, there's an idea, lemme look in the BIOS
[01:44] <waxfactor2nd> hi now ive uninstalled the automatix drivwer and installed it the booring way, but i still cant change the resolution, i can only choose 640*480. so what shall i do, im a a newb.
[01:45] <n2diy> ! automatix | waxfactor2nd
[01:45] <ubotu> waxfactor2nd: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:45] <gnomefreak> !fixres | n2diy
[01:45] <ubotu> n2diy: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:45] <mena> Xyloc, but the problem know that the xp systm is not on the hard ....so how cant i accse it to install it
[01:45] <gnomefreak> n2diy: he removed (hopfully all of it)
[01:45] <mena> Xyloc, know>>>Now
[01:46] <fredl> jpjacobs, it says 'width: 32 bits' undeer the PCI AGP Bridge section...
[01:46] <mena> Xyloc, the xp is on my friend hard
[01:46] <Xyloc> mena, Which OS do you have up and running?
[01:46] <n2diy> gromefreak: the key operator there is "hopefully"
[01:46] <mena> ubuntu
[01:46] <fredl> does the width have anything to do with AGP 4x or 8x ?
[01:46] <mena> Xyloc, ubuntu
[01:46] <waxfactor2nd> now it aint automatix question, ive installed the driver on the normal booring way
[01:46] <Xyloc> mena, did your friend encrypt his files in anyway?
[01:47] <Kishore> ubotu, kill
[01:47] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[01:47] <Godsey> fredl: http://www.abcd.com.au/v/agp_slot.htm
[01:47] <gnomefreak> waxfactor2nd: read the link i gave you. and it can still be automatix causing the problem.
[01:47] <mena> No bu the big problem that i am going at first to creat a cd and the files i have it he dosent
[01:47] <waxfactor2nd> there is only things to 6.06
[01:47] <jpjacobs> fredl, dunno the system i am on doesn't have an AGP dlot ;)
[01:47] <jpjacobs> slot*
[01:48] <Godsey> unless you know it's either 4 or 8
[01:48] <gnomefreak> waxfactor2nd: the links i gave you will work for edgy also
[01:48] <Xyloc> mena, you can use K3B to burn a CD, if that's what you want.
[01:48] <Godsey> and I thought 8x cards degrate to 4x
[01:48] <eyalw> hi
[01:48] <waxfactor2nd> how, shall i write the stuff to 6.06 in 6.10?? or did i miss something there
[01:48] <mena> no the problen i dont have now a writer >>:)
[01:48] <gnomefreak> waxfactor2nd: did you read the links i gave you
[01:49] <waxfactor2nd> partly, when i saw there only stood 6.06 and 5.10 and then something else started i closed it
[01:49] <fredl> Godsey, thanks! that helps! I guess I have an AGP 2x slot
[01:50] <gnomefreak> waxfactor2nd: look heres easy way find out what the vertical and horizontal refresh rates are by goggling your monitor. than add those rates to /etc/X11/xorg.conf in the right place and add the monitor vaules it can support.
[01:50] <eyalw> i'm having problem understanding some ssh related stuff
[01:50] <fredl> so it's not likely an AGP 8x card will even fit in there :/
[01:50] <gnomefreak> waxfactor2nd: the fixres links are the same for all releases
[01:51] <waxfactor2nd> huh what link did you gave me then??
[01:52] <randig> hej
[01:52] <gnomefreak> !fixres | waxfactor2nd
[01:52] <ubotu> waxfactor2nd: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:52] <Peres> hello
[01:52] <gnomefreak> waxfactor2nd: that one
[01:52] <randig> hehe......
[01:53] <chehgarg_> anyone ever get a wg311v3 wirless netgear card working on Ubuntu Edgy?
[01:53] <serishema> in my case the X window system is a windows program :-)
[01:53] <mena> Xyloc, thansk i sloved it
[01:53] <mena> thanks
[01:53] <Xyloc> mena, don't mention it
[01:53] <waxfactor2nd> kk ill try
[01:54] <mena> Xyloc, ok
[01:56] <bronze> Good morning.  What file do I have to modify to allow root logins on the main X-windows login?
[01:57] <gnomefreak> !sudo | bronze
[01:57] <ubotu> bronze: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:57] <gnomefreak> bronze: read it it has a section that you want. but im warning you its not supported in here nor iis it a good idea at all.
[01:57] <gnomefreak> brb
[01:57] <bronze> um, yeah i know how to become root. I want to allow a root login on a console in my server room
[01:58] <bronze> gnomefreak: I understand. Been using *NIXes since 1981
[01:58] <bronze> built my first network (200+ nodes) in 1983
[01:59] <Corvus> join #ubuntu-fr
[01:59] <Corvus> salut
[01:59] <bronze> can you be more specific?
[01:59] <n2diy> ! fr | Corvus
[01:59] <ubotu> Corvus: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:00] <Corvus> merde, je me suis gour de canal
[02:00] <Corvus> dsol
[02:01] <jpjacobs> bronze, if you want a root login, you must unlock the rootaccoutn by assigning a passwd (sudo passwd root)
[02:01] <eyalw> i'm having problem understanding some ssh related stuff
[02:01] <eyalw> can somebody help me
[02:01] <jpjacobs> ask |eyalw
[02:02] <jpjacobs> !ask |eyalw
[02:02] <ubotu> eyalw: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:02] <Xyloc> I'm trying to set up WPA, using the RT2500-driver supplied by Ubuntu (origin: Serialmonkey rt2x)
[02:02] <Xyloc> It doesn't seem to accept ASCII-keys, only numerical. My router uses ASCII as WPA-PSK (TKIP) key
[02:02] <eyalw> ok, well, when i want to connect to a ssh server, i need the server pub. key and it needs mine right?
[02:03] <ys76> Hi there! I need an advice: I am looking for a working SCSI-Controller for a failover-setup on a shared storage (AMD64 PCI-X)
[02:04] <n2diy> eyalw: right.
[02:05] <eyalw> n2diy: ok, so i have an sshd running on my pc, how can i configure which pub/prv pair of keys it uses?
[02:05] <jpjacobs> eyalw, those normally get generated automatically.
[02:05] <jpjacobs> and are specific to the host, not the user
[02:05] <n2diy> eyalw: ssh will generate its own.
[02:05] <exs> does anyone know of a text-to-speech program for ubuntu?
[02:05] <XCute4God> Please, ANYONE: How can i HIDE my desktop disk icons ???
[02:05] <eyalw> jpjacobs: where can i find them?
[02:05] <jpjacobs> if you want to use user-specific keys, take a look at ssh-keygen
[02:05] <exs> XCute4God:  I'e wondered that before, I don't think you can.
[02:06] <jpjacobs> eyalw, /etc/ssh/...
[02:06] <Past_Images> hello anyone?? glslideshow is showing pics of space but how do i get it to show my photo collection
[02:06] <Past_Images> ?
[02:06] <jpjacobs> exs, festival, there is support for assistive technologies in ubunut, see menu>prefs>...
[02:06] <ubuntu__> hello
[02:06] <XCute4God> exs, I don't know, but it got to have an answer...
[02:07] <exs> jpjacobs:  why did you refer to me?
[02:07] <eyalw> jpjacobs: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key - is the private key?
[02:07] <jpjacobs> exs, XCute4God, take a look at the configuration manager, somewhere in the menu. if i'm not mistaken there is some option like /desktop/show.icons...
[02:08] <ubuntu__> for what jp?
[02:08] <jpjacobs> exs, the text-to-speech thing you wanted
[02:09] <exs> jpjacobs:  yeah,  I can't find it in the menus
[02:09] <eyalw> jpjacobs: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key - is the private key?
[02:09] <jpjacobs> eyalw, you don't have to care for thos keys normally
[02:09] <XCute4God> jpjacobs, neither me
[02:10] <ubuntu__> exs: have u looked in synaptic?
[02:10] <XCute4God> jpjacobs, i can't find this any menu to handle this
[02:10] <exs> ubuntu__:  no, what's this program called?
[02:10] <ubuntu__> exs let me chk, 1 second
[02:10] <exs> XCute4God: same here, gimme a shout when you find it
[02:10] <jpjacobs> sorry guys, i'm not at my ubuntu machine now, but i know it's there. (maybe try gnopernicus, festival, flite,...)
[02:11] <eyalw> jpjacobs: ok, so, say i'm on my university pc, i wanna connect to my home ssh server. i need to have? 1. my own private/public key pair. 2. the server public key?
[02:11] <kenthomson> HELP: i can't configure wengophone
[02:11] <kenthomson> can someone please help me?
[02:12] <ubuntu__> exs:  search for festlex
[02:12] <ubuntu__> ok
[02:12] <jpjacobs> eyalw, you just connect. then you get a question about wether to trust the host or not, just trust it (or if you are paranoid, check the fingerprint)
[02:12] <mena> freinds
[02:12] <ubuntu__> hello mena
[02:12] <mena> i have aproblem with mounting a petition
[02:12] <mena> partition ...hello ubuntu
[02:12] <ubuntu__> whats up?
[02:12] <j0sh0> hi all! I'm using 915resolution for my intel 855GM graphics card for xserver, but looking thru Xorg.0.log i see the line "i810(0): Not using mode "1024x768" (no mode of this name)" however if i do "915resolution -l" i can see that mode in the list!! why wont X let me use 1024x768? I know the laptop is capable of it because winXP allowed me to use it?
[02:12] <rabe> ;)
[02:13] <mena> ubuntu__, i have reformate a partition to ntfs and i edit the fstab and until now it wouldnt mount
[02:13] <mena> !!
[02:13] <exs> ubuntu__:  Turns out I already got that, how do I launch it?
[02:13] <kenthomson> HELP: I get, "Fatal error" Wengo cannot work properly. The sip port number of wengo is already being used by other software!"
[02:13] <Kayin> Can anybody help me with my Tomcat problem? I installed tomcat5 trough apt-get yesterday and after the installation it worked fine (I connected to localhost:8180 succesfully), but when I tried to start it just now (with sudo /etc/init.d/tomcat5 start) it looks like it starts, but when I status it later it says the service is not running but the pid file exists, even though there's nothing tomcat related in /var/run ..
[02:14] <jpjacobs> kenthomson, are you running ekiga?
[02:14] <ubuntu__> exs: do u have the dependency package for male voice
[02:14] <kenthomson> jpjacobs, no actively but it is installed (be default) and setup with one of my accounts, UES
[02:14] <ubuntu__> mena:  can i see the fstab
[02:14] <kenthomson> jpjacobs, YES
[02:14] <ubuntu__> or can u type that line here
[02:14] <mena> okay
[02:14] <eyalw> jpjacobs: well.. this is not helping me. sorry. where can i found a good ssh tutorial, i've been over like 10
[02:14] <ubuntu__> eyalw: hi
[02:14] <mena> ! pastbian
[02:14] <ubuntu__> eyalw:  man ssh
[02:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:15] <boro__> hi chlopaki
[02:15] <kenthomson> !pastebin | mena
[02:15] <ubotu> mena: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:15] <exs> ubuntu__:  Yep, got the male voice.
[02:15] <mena> okay
[02:15] <ubuntu__> exs: ok
[02:15] <jpjacobs> kenthomson, then kill ekiga first, a port can be only used by one program at a time
[02:15] <eyalw> ubuntu__: when u dont know what is fingerprint, and how ssh works, man ssh wont help u
[02:15] <kenthomson> jpjacobs, but ekiga is not ACTIVELY running in the background as of now, it is just installed. Will i have to uninstall it?
[02:15] <eyalw> ubuntu__: I've read it
[02:16] <XCute4God> jpjacobs, exs I've found how hide dekstop disk icons!!
[02:16] <hotti> where could i find a decent howto to get flash and java working with firefox in ubuntu amd64?
[02:16] <jpjacobs> kenthomson, oh no that shouldn''t be a problem
[02:16] <ubuntu__> launch festival
[02:16] <exs> XCute4God:  tell us how!
[02:16] <kenthomson> jpjacobs, then, what do i do?
[02:16] <ubuntu__> eyalw:  what r u trying to do?
[02:16] <jpjacobs> kenthomson, you can see which programs are listening on which ports by using 'netstat -alpI inet'
[02:17] <ubuntu__> mena: ?
[02:17] <mena> ubuntu__, and i also need the permisiom to read and write on the ntfs partition......http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/828/
[02:17] <kenthomson> jpjacobs, "ps -e | grep ekiga" give no output, BTW
[02:17] <mena> ubuntu__, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/828/
[02:17] <ubuntu__> ok
[02:17] <Past_Images> hi is there a way to speed up the ubuntu dapper screen saver -  i'm using the one for Pictures Folder
[02:17] <XCute4God> exs, execute : gconf-editor, then find apps->nautilus->desktop and uncheck "volumes_visible"
[02:18] <eyalw> ubuntu__: I wanna have a simple understanding of how ssh works, (i'm familier with the encription idea of public keys) but not with the logging into a server with ssh, and how do i specify what public key to use, or, how do i get the server's public key, or how does the server gets my public key
[02:18] <kenthomson> jpjacobs, "netstat: invalid option -- I
[02:18] <kenthomson> "
[02:18] <ubuntu__> chking 1 sec
[02:18] <vluid> hello everybody!
[02:18] <ubuntu__> eyalw: do this mate
[02:18] <kenthomson> !hi | vluid
[02:18] <ubotu> vluid: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:18] <jpjacobs> eyalw, you don't need to have those, ssh takes care of that.
[02:18] <XCute4God> exs, Got it?
[02:18] <ubuntu__> eyalw: when a key is genrated 2 key r done, private/public
[02:18] <ubuntu__> ok
[02:18] <jpjacobs> kenthomson, weird...
[02:19] <jpjacobs> Sorry that should have been A...
[02:19] <vluid> ive got some encoding problems with gaim.
[02:19] <voltagex> has anyone had success with the Avermedia Hybrid PCI cards?
[02:19] <kenthomson> jpjacobs, the command you gave me throws an error "netstat: invalid option -- I"
[02:19] <ubuntu__> mena: ok
[02:19] <ubuntu__> what error u get ?
[02:19] <kenthomson> Does GAIM allow voice-calls to yahoo users?
[02:19] <exs> XCute4God:  yeah, shame its so hard to enablr/disable
[02:19] <mena> ubuntu__, the ntfs partition didt appear
[02:20] <ubuntu__> eyalw:  u send the public key to the person with whom u wana share, leep private to urself
[02:20] <ubuntu__> ok
[02:20] <ubuntu__> yes mena
[02:20] <ubuntu__> try doing it manually 1st
[02:20] <ubuntu__> using the mount command
[02:20] <Xyloc> Can anyone help me with a wireless network problem?
[02:20] <mena> then
[02:20] <eyalw> ubuntu__: lets talk in client-server matters, not as if i'm sharing with my friend with whom i can talk to
[02:20] <ubuntu__> des it work?
[02:20] <rabe> hi
[02:21] <ubuntu__> eyalw:  i sent u the public key ok fo eg
[02:21] <mena> ubuntu__, its open commands and the ntfs didt apper
[02:21] <ubuntu__> eyalw: u use the ssh --impprt option to add ym key
[02:21] <jpjacobs> kenthomson, my fault, it should have been 'netstat -alpA inet'
[02:21] <rabe> i have a problem during installation with qparted it tells me that i dont have a root partition, but i choose one with reiserfs to formated and to be mounted
[02:21] <XCute4God> exs, yeah... but all the configuration of gnome can be made from gconf-editor... we can made a lot of tweaks from it
[02:22] <kenthomson> jpjacobs, a small 'a' and a big 'A' together? :)
[02:22] <benrob> tricky one: I have winxp running as a client in vmware on my ubuntu dapper host. Works really well. But I get error messages of "cannot communicate with scanner" when trying to scan. The scanner is regognised under vm > removeable devices > usb devices however.
[02:22] <jpjacobs> yes
[02:22] <jpjacobs> see man netstat
[02:22] <benrob> one would guess win-only scanners etc are one of the key uses of vmware...
[02:22] <kenthomson> jpjacobs, i got some long output
[02:22] <vluid> when my friends write in german over icq and they have umlauts in their text i get following error : "(There was an error receiving this message. The buddy you are speaking to most likely has a buggy client.)" my encoding is iso-8859-15. so i cannot figure out where the problem could be
[02:22] <mena> ubuntu__, what to do
[02:22] <eyalw> ubuntu__: one moment, say u r the server i run in my home ubuntu, and i am somedistanced workstation, ok?
[02:22] <ubuntu__> mena: try HPFS
[02:23] <mena> what is that
[02:23] <kenthomson> jpjacobs, do i "grep" something? What do i look for?
[02:23] <kostas_> hello everyone
[02:23] <eyalw> ubuntu__: so, in order for me to connect with u, i need in advance to have your public key stored in my email for example, right?
[02:23] <rabe> qparted dosent want to install
[02:23] <ubuntu__> yes
[02:23] <jpjacobs> kenthomson, you have to know which prog is listening on the wengo-port, so search which port wengo needs, and see what's taking it.
[02:24] <krys_>  /server irc3.tin.it
[02:24] <krys_> dsadasdsad
[02:24] <bronze> jpjacobs: did that, Thank you.
[02:24] <jpjacobs> eyalw, you just Connect. do ssh user@host and it will work, no need to make it more difficult
[02:24] <kenthomson> jpjacobs, weng in its configuration tells me it has SIP:5060, should i search for 5060?
[02:24] <ubuntu__> mena:  u there
[02:24] <ubuntu__> try this
[02:24] <jpjacobs> bronze, np
[02:24] <jpjacobs> indeed
[02:24] <ubuntu__> mount -t ntfs /dev/hda6 /media/ntfs
[02:24] <mena> ubuntu__, yes
[02:25] <kenthomson> jpjacobs, "netstat alpA inet | grep 5060", Gives no output
[02:25] <ubuntu__> or whatever mount point name u kept
[02:25] <ubuntu__> ok?
[02:25] <mena> ok
[02:25] <eyalw> jpjacobs: but this is the linux community, not some Windows forum. i wanna know what is done backstage
[02:25] <jpjacobs> kenthomson, that's weird. maybe you accidently launched 2 instances of wengo?
[02:26] <kenthomson> jpjacobs, let me close all of them and restart them. Do you use wengo?
[02:26] <jpjacobs> eyalw, don't go calling me a windows user hey. just google . www.openssh.com is a nice place to start :|
[02:26] <deebu> when  remove usb devices in ubuntu without unmounting them, ubuntu tells me that its unsafe...is this unique to ubuntu or a property of gnome 2.16??
[02:26] <jpjacobs> kenthomson, installed it yesterday, but kicked it because it was damn slow
[02:27] <ubuntu__> deebu:  it is normal
[02:27] <deebu> when I remove usb devices in Edgy without unmounting them, ubuntu tells me that its unsafe...is this unique to ubuntu or a property of gnome 2.16??
[02:27] <eyalw> jpjacobs: never did, but your answer was very similar to one a windows user will answer
[02:27] <kenthomson> jpjacobs, and instead you use, <what> for VOIP?
[02:27] <rabe> is qparted buggy
[02:27] <eyalw> jpjacobs: and its not like i havnt googled, i just never found the right tutorial yet
[02:27] <rabe> i tell me that i have not selected a root partition
[02:27] <ubuntu__> rabe:  qtparted?
[02:27] <mena> ubuntu__, it should mounted after rebort right
[02:27] <rabe> yes
[02:27] <n2diy_> deebu: neither.
[02:28] <ubuntu__> mena:  nope
[02:28] <deebu> ubuntu__, i know its normal...but i wanted to know if this is a property of edgy or gnome 2.16? bcoz its a really nice feature for newbies..
[02:28] <ubuntu__> can u access ntfs now?
[02:28] <eyalw> jpjacobs: they all explain how to connect with a password. i wanna connect with a public key and a password
[02:28] <jpjacobs> well i do not really use it a lot. i like ekiga, but it takes a whole lot of libs (we'll on this non-gnome box). ihu, ohphone and yate look prommising.
[02:28] <mena> ubuntu__, okay
[02:28] <ubuntu__> deebu:  nope, u will get it on kde too
[02:28] <benrob> I have winxp running as a client in vmware on my ubuntu dapper host. Works really well. But I get error messages of "cannot communicate with scanner" when trying to scan. The scanner is regognised under vm > removeable devices > usb devices however. Any ideas how to fix this?
[02:28] <mena> ubuntu__, not yet
[02:28] <deebu> n2diy, then to whom does the credit go for this nice feature?
[02:28] <mena> ubuntu__, but the command worked
[02:28] <rabe> ubuntu_: yes it tell me that i have no root partition selected, but i have
[02:28] <ubuntu__> mena:  ok so u an access ntfs data?
[02:29] <kenthomson> jpjacobs, Do you know of any software that will allow me to make voice calls with yahoo users (on yahoo messenger)? (except ofcourse the yahoo messenger)
[02:29] <ubuntu__> can*
[02:29] <Jowi> !ssh | eyalw
[02:29] <ubotu> eyalw: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[02:29] <n2diy_> deebu: I don't think it is a feature, and it is bad practice, you should always unmount/eject a USB device before unplugging it.
[02:29] <deebu> ubuntu__, nope...i do not get it in kde...i tried in it kubuntu
[02:29] <Jowi> eyalw, check that first link. it includes pub key auth
[02:29] <jpjacobs> eyalw, google for ssh public key. te first hit is a good one
[02:29] <eyalw> Jowi: i've been there
[02:29] <bronze> I'm trying to configure my eth0 with a static IP on my LAN.  I have used the gui to reconfigure the interface, but when I run /etc/init.d/networking restart it still tries to do DHCP on the interface.  How do I get it to use the new settings?
[02:29] <mena> ubuntu__, Not Yet i cant find in the desktop ...i will rebort then come and tell you ..brb
[02:29] <ubuntu__> deebu:  when u right clik on the usb desktop icon
[02:29] <jpjacobs> kenthomson, no, I practically don't know any yahoo users
[02:29] <ubuntu__> u will get it deebu
[02:29] <revan> I can't hear anything out of my speakers. I get this error when trying to test my audio: audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Resource busy or not available.
[02:30] <ubuntu__> mena: hold on
[02:30] <mena> ok
[02:30] <kenthomson>  Do you know of any software that will allow me to make voice calls with yahoo users (on yahoo messenger)? (except ofcourse the yahoo messenger)
[02:30] <mena> ubuntu__, ok i am here
[02:30] <Jowi> eyalw, so what are you wondering exacely?
[02:30] <eyalw> sorry, this is not helping me. "go search" - i can tell that to myself alone. bye for now
[02:30] <ubuntu__> if the command worked, and u can access the file system
[02:30] <Jowi> exactly even
[02:30] <ubuntu__> add it to fstab
[02:30] <ubuntu__> dont delte the old one though ok , make a new mount point
[02:30] <ubuntu__> ok
[02:30] <ubuntu__> then reboot
[02:30] <mena> ubuntu__, okay
[02:31] <bronze> I'm trying to configure my eth0 with a static IP on my LAN.  I have used the gui to reconfigure the interface, but when I run /etc/init.d/networking restart it still tries to do DHCP on the interface.  How do I get it to use the new settings?
[02:32] <benrob> go figure.... now it wants to work! well, cant complain about that...
[02:32] <rabe> is it not possible to have to root partitions in same primary partitions
[02:32] <deebu> ubuntu__, im not talkin abt dat buddy...im sayin that it tells me that its unsafe to remove usb devices without ejecting them...when i remove them wihout ejecting them...so is this user-friendly dialog a part of ubuntu...or a part of kde?
[02:32] <Xyloc> bronze: Probably the GUI changes a file that the networking init-script is not referring to
[02:33] <ubuntu__> deebu:  u will get that in every OS
[02:33] <bronze> Xyloc: si the fallback is go to /etc/ig and set the ifcfg files by hand?
[02:33] <deebu> ubuntu__, i do NOT:( except windows n edgy
[02:34] <bronze> *so
[02:34] <ubuntu__> i do
[02:34] <rabe> No mount point selected for Partition 1 Disc IDE/ATA 1 (Primary) [hda1] .
[02:34] <rabe> Kein Root-Dateisystem
[02:34] <revan> Hi, I can't hear anything out of my speakers when trying to play audio or video. I get this error when trying to test my audio: audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Resource busy or not available.
[02:34] <rabe> i dont understand what qparted want me to do
[02:34] <Xyloc> bronze: Yes, you can edit the /etc/network/interfaces file by hand
[02:34] <deebu> ubuntu__, i unplugged usb devices many times in dapper..kubuntu..without unmounting them...but i didnt see any dialog telling me that its unsafe..
[02:35] <ubuntu__> deebu:  u see icon on desktop?
[02:35] <ubuntu__> right clik on it
[02:35] <deebu> ubuntu__, yup of course
[02:35] <bronze> Xyloc: All right, Who is the tease that put the network stuff in the GUI then ? :-)
[02:35] <ubuntu__> deebu:  see safetly remove?
[02:35] <Xyloc> deebu: try rebooting while having an opened file form your USB-stick, you're bound to get a warning then
[02:35] <deebu> ubuntu__, i know i can unmount them safely before unplugging them..if thats wht ur tryin to temme
[02:36] <ubuntu__> deebu: yes , always do that
[02:36] <Xyloc> bronze: I don't know, but the standard networking tools are not working for me either...
[02:36] <revan> ...
[02:37] <Xyloc> bronze: Yet, I try to configure WLAN instead of wired (wired works perfectly)
[02:37] <smithw> Hello everyone. Is there an option to apt-get in command line which lists all the packages currently installed? I've been searching the man pages without much success...
[02:37] <erUSUL> cl
[02:37] <ubuntu__> bronze:  are you using network-admin for networking/
[02:37] <bronze> ubuntu__: nope, I'm root at the moment
[02:37] <n2diy_> smithw: you should be able to do that in synaptic.
[02:38] <ubuntu__> wb mena
[02:38] <mena> ubuntu__, bad luck bad luck
[02:38] <ubuntu__> bronze:  try that command
[02:38] <mena> :(
[02:38] <ubuntu__> mena:  did not work?
[02:38] <bronze> Ubugtu: is network-admin a gui tool?
[02:38] <mena> yes
[02:38] <ubuntu__> what did u add to fstab?
[02:38] <ubuntu__> bronze:  yes
[02:38] <smithw> n2diy_, yeah, but I want this output to be in plain text to feed a script, which will parse this value and install the same packages on another system... Can synaptic do that, also?
[02:38] <J_P>  people, I would like know if what machine is better for run ubuntu + postgresql : "Pentium 4 D 3.2GHz" or "Pentium Core2 Duo 1,8GHz". Remeber OS is Linux 32 bit
[02:39] <mena> ubuntu__, i didnt add any thing bec its the same as i was checked it
[02:39] <mena> i see it
[02:39] <bronze> ubuntu__: is it the one you access from the menu  via "system settings"?
[02:39] <ubuntu__> right
[02:39] <mena> the mount point is what i am usin
[02:39] <n2diy_> smithw: ok! I doubt synaptic can do that, good luck.
[02:39] <ubuntu__> mena try this
[02:39] <mena> ok
[02:39] <bronze> ubuntu__: That didn't change the interface
[02:39] <ubuntu__> open terminal
[02:39] <mena> ok
[02:39] <ubuntu__> sudo mkdir /media/ntfs
[02:40] <smithw> n2diy_, thanks...
[02:40] <Blutack> smithw: try apt-cache man pages
[02:40] <ubuntu__> whats the hda number?
[02:40] <ubuntu__> for ntfs
[02:40] <ubuntu__> 6?
[02:40] <mena> ubuntu__,6
[02:41] <smithw> Blutack, thanks, let me see...
[02:41] <vleon> can someone help me with tv-out?
[02:41] <bronze> bbl
[02:41] <ubuntu__> echo "/dev/hda6 /media/ntfs  ntfs  defaults 0  0" >> /etc/fstab
[02:42] <ubuntu__> now reboot mena
[02:42] <ubuntu__> ok
[02:42] <mena> OK
[02:42] <logical> hi.. do you know scim setting??
[02:42] <ubuntu__> u should be able to access ntfs in /media/ntfs
[02:42] <ubuntu__> mena:  1 more thing though
[02:43] <ubuntu__> u do have ntfsprogs installed right?
[02:43] <mena> ubuntu__, i dont know that
[02:43] <ubuntu__> mena:  sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs
[02:43] <ubuntu__> ok?
[02:44] <mena> ok
[02:44] <ubuntu__> good luck
[02:44] <exs> anyone using feisty? hows it shaping up?
[02:44] <mena> ubuntu__,okay
[02:45] <fredl> so for configuring a Gforce 4 card I need to just follow the instructions at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29 ?
[02:45] <mena> ubuntu__, the command above you give me to the fstab right
[02:45] <ubuntu__> apt-get?
[02:45] <logical> mount /dev/hda1 /media/foldername -o nls=cp949,utf8. And you can see ntfs folder...
[02:45] <ubuntu__> or echo?
[02:46] <mena> echo what is that
[02:46] <ubuntu__> did u run the echo command?
[02:46] <vleon> can someone help me with tv-out?
[02:47] <ubuntu__> mena:  ?
[02:47] <mena> ubuntu__, seconed plz
[02:47] <ubuntu__> just edit fstab manually add it there
[02:47] <ubuntu__> dont use echo
[02:47] <ubuntu__> u can wreck system
[02:48] <mena> okay
[02:48] <logical> can someone help me with scim setting in other language?
[02:48] <mena> ubuntu__, bec i do that permision denied
[02:49] <Prabhu-> hi, can i configure NAT server on if i have a single n/w card on the m/c? and if that pc is using is a gateway to connect to net?
[02:49] <ubuntu__> mena: press alt+f2
[02:49] <Prabhu-> a nat/proxy server
[02:49] <ubuntu__> in run type gksu gedit /etc/fstab
[02:49] <logical> root permission needs..
[02:49] <mena> okay
[02:50] <mena> ubuntu__, it will make 2 to 0 is that okay
[02:51] <Prabhu-> any help for me?
[02:51] <ubuntu__> keep both 0 0
[02:51] <mena> okay
[02:51] <mena> i should remove that right /dev/hda6
[02:51] <ubuntu__> !ntfsprogs >mena
[02:52] <ubuntu__> mena nope dont remove anything
[02:52] <ubuntu__> just add 1 more in the end
[02:52] <ubuntu__> ok
[02:52] <mena> ok
[02:52] <vleon> can no one help me with tv-out?
[02:53] <mena> brb
[02:53] <Lynoure> vleon: Have you already told them about what is wrong?
[02:54] <Lynoure> vleon: It's tempting to say "just plug a tv into it" if that is all of the question =)
[02:54] <vleon> :)
[02:54] <vleon> sec
[02:54] <vleon> !tv-out
[02:54] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out on certain NVidia cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition
[02:54] <Ubuntuguy> All -- looking for help with ipod.  under dapper and edgy it doesn't automount.  How can I enable automount?
[02:55] <vleon> well i edited every thing as was stated in the guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition and installed the proprientry nvidia drivers, and yet i see nothing on my tv screen (yes i plugged the cables)
[02:55] <vleon> and yes i restarted the comp
[02:57] <no-sleep> is anyone interested to give me some feedback about my project: http://timesaver.sf.net/ - version beta 0.5.3 Thank you!
[02:57] <ubuntu__> wb mena
[02:57] <mena> ubuntu__, when i done that what hapened so i think is didt mounted for that reason see the ppastebian
[02:58] <mena> ! pastebian
[02:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:58] <ubuntu__> did u chk /media folder?
[02:58] <mena> the fstab
[02:58] <ubuntu__> !pastebin | mena
[02:58] <ubotu> mena: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:58] <a1m> nekoi balgarin nema le
[02:58] <a1m> ?
[02:58] <a1m> :>
[02:58] <mena> ubuntu__, if no solve i will make it ext3 :)
[02:59] <mena> and make you reat and me
[02:59] <mena> rest
[02:59] <eXistenZ> what's the difference between chroot and dchroot?
[02:59] <mena> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/829/
[02:59] <ubuntu__> lol
[03:00] <mena> i do it wrong right
[03:00] <mena> heheheh sorry the resolution was deffrent ...heheh
[03:00] <ubuntu__> i dont see anything u typed new in fstab?
[03:00] <ubuntu__> i told u to add a line there
[03:00] <ubuntu__> u did nothing
[03:00] <mena> ubuntu__, no u gived me i do it
[03:01] <ubuntu__> open fstab again
[03:01] <mena> ubuntu__, is there any apps in linux enable reading for xp i mean apps installed on linux or command do that
[03:01] <mena> okay
[03:01] <Knight_Lord> Is there any way of knowing which client of and NFS server is creating more traffic?a
[03:01] <mena> i am on it
[03:01] <foRza> Can someone explain to me how I can make changes to my usbpen be written immediately. (aka SYNC)
[03:02] <n2diy_> Knight_Lord: netstat?
[03:02] <qsrv> is it possible to install firefox 2 on ubuntu?
[03:03] <choix-du-jour> hello, I have a problem: wath is the "classical" chmod for an ubuntu filesystem? 776? 777? 66..or...???
[03:03] <qsrv> what is the easiest way to do this?
[03:03] <Knight_Lord> n2diy_ netstat only gives the open connections, not the ammount of data transfered
[03:03] <capiira> hi people anyone know if there is a way to fix that damn small gnome animation icon in ubuntu nautilus
[03:03] <ubuntu__> mena did u install ntfsprogs?
[03:03] <capiira> ?
[03:03] <mena> yes sure
[03:03] <Knight_Lord> n2diy_ besides it can get very quickly very poluted
[03:03] <mena> as you told me
[03:03] <mena> and it was loading in that time
[03:03] <vleon>  well i edited every thing as was stated in the guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition and installed the proprientry nvidia drivers, and yet i see nothing on my tv screen (yes i plugged the cables)
[03:03] <vleon>  and yes i restarted the comp
[03:04] <Morrissey> Hi, I have a problem with Amarok not transfeering the Album Covers to my ipod. Maybe its an artwork problem? Anyone know how to get this working? In advance, thanks
[03:04] <ubuntu__> ok
[03:04] <ubuntu__> open fstab then
[03:04] <mena> ok
[03:04] <n2diy_> Knight_Lord: ok, good luck.
[03:04] <no-sleep> is anyone interested to give me some feedback about my project: http://timesaver.sf.net/ - version beta 0.5.3 Thank you!
[03:04] <mseney> qsrv, i would just use System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager  and just search for "firefox" you should see version 2 listed and can just check it for installation
[03:05] <ubuntu__> add a new line in the end
[03:05] <jpjacobs> vleon, if i'm not mistaken there is a package nvtvout, or something similar. maybe that helps you?
[03:05] <mena> okay
[03:05] <qsrv> mseney, I'm running dapper, so I guess I need to update to edgy first
[03:05] <qsrv> how do I this?
[03:05] <ndlovu> I have a usb disk that's not automounting at the moment. is there some way to poll usb for removable drives?
[03:05] <vleon> maybe it will thank you, ill search for something like that
[03:05] <ubuntu__> like this /dev/hda6 /media/ntfs   ntfs   defaults,umask=0  0  0
[03:05] <mena> ok
[03:06] <capiira> no one know how to fix that ubuntu broken icon ?
[03:06] <mena> okay then
[03:06] <mena> after that
[03:06] <mena> save then
[03:06] <mseney> qsrv, oh sorry yeah i'm using edgy. my server is running dapper lts so i haven't tried installing firefox on it..
[03:06] <ubuntu__> make a new folder in /media
[03:06] <hsyn> hello to everyone
[03:06] <ubuntu__> name it ntfs
[03:06] <ubuntu__> ok
[03:06] <mena> ok
[03:07] <hsyn> i have a question about usb hdd. how and where do i mount this device
[03:07] <everton137> hi, I've upgraded ubuntu dapper to edgy and I am having problems with Emacs fonts (they appears as squares). I changes /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but problems continues. Does someone know how to solve this? Thanks
[03:07] <ubuntu__> hsyn:  in /media
[03:07] <ubuntu__> hsyn:  ubuntu auto detects it
[03:07] <ndlovu> according to dmesg: "[17181344.956000]  sd 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sdb"
[03:08] <jpjacobs> no-sleep, looks neat. however i don't install it because i don't have gnome and, i'm not planning on installing all the libs. Maybe add a general description on the mainpage.
[03:08] <mena> ubuntu__, ubuntu sorry ....i take the link you give right or not if not you give the right line plz ...if you are angry never mind :)
[03:08] <ubuntu__> mena:  what?
[03:08] <everton137> Oh, in xorg.conf I added lines /X11/fonts or /fonts/X11, this was my change.
[03:08] <hsyn> ok i only see cdrom devices in media. does that mean ubuntu don't recognize my hdd
[03:08] <mena> ubuntu__, never mind
[03:09] <ubuntu__> hsyn:  try changing the usb slot
[03:09] <Prabhu-> any help in configuring a NAT server with a single NIC?
[03:09] <ndlovu> ah, sudo mount -a did the trick for me
[03:09] <jpjacobs> no-sleep, oh sorry, didn't read all to the bottom, never mind the last thing i said
[03:10] <no-sleep> jpjacobs: thanks for looking
[03:10] <mena> ! pastebin
[03:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:10] <hsyn> i changed the usb port. no changes! anything else i can try?
[03:10] <ubuntu__> nada
[03:10] <hsyn> ohhhh :'(
[03:11] <ubuntu__> hsyn:  u on ubuntu right?
[03:11] <hsyn> yes
[03:11] <ubuntu__> gnome?
[03:11] <hsyn> yes
[03:11] <trurl> Hi
[03:11] <ubuntu__> well it auto mounts it
[03:11] <ubuntu__> u should have no issue
[03:11] <mena> ubuntu__, see it and tell me right or wrong just right or wrong nothing else >>>>> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/830/okay
[03:12] <mena> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/830/
[03:12] <hsyn> how can i check if usb is working (drivers) properly
[03:12] <ubuntu__> mena:  nope
[03:12] <ubuntu__> u did add nothing :p
[03:12] <ubuntu__> ur just giving same old file
[03:12] <Morrissey> Hi, I have a problem with Amarok not transfeering the Album Covers to my ipod. Maybe its an artwork problem? Anyone know how to get this working? In advance, thanks ... (maybe I need to compile the libgpod myself somehow?)
[03:12] <mena> hhaahha okay
[03:12] <mena> i will reformate it ti ext3
[03:13] <mena> i am .....bad
[03:13] <mena> :(
[03:13] <acuster> hey all
[03:13] <trurl> I forgot my password to the keyring in which some passwords are saved (ftp, ssh..., they are NOT important, i know them) and some apps like to access the keyring... how may i reset this keyring?
[03:13] <I-kido> /dev/           /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[03:13] <app> Does anyone have any experince with Canonical support? Is it worth the money?
[03:13] <acuster> does anyone know how ubuntu will support the integrated intel graphics for X 7.2?
[03:13] <mooey> acuster, #ubuntu+1
[03:14] <acuster> that is, if we have a laptop with the integrated graphics and an ati card, can we choose which graphics system to use?
[03:14] <sexcopter8000> is there a program in ubuntu to check if a fat partition is healthy?
[03:14] <acuster> right
[03:14] <ubuntu__> sexcopter8000:  fsck
[03:14] <maddash> where's the wide-eyed gazelle?
[03:14] <mooey> fsck.vfat, yar
[03:14] <ubuntu__> !fsck
[03:14] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[03:15] <trurl> !keyring
[03:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keyring - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:15] <trurl> darn
[03:15] <trurl> ;)
[03:15] <I-kido> lol
[03:15] <Victor```> I do not think there is a 'vfatprogs' package
[03:15] <MetaMorfoziS> whon knows, why the firefox download dialog's "open" and "show" links and features don'T work udner kubuntu edgy with 2.0 ff?
[03:16] <ubuntu__> mooey:  indian?
[03:16] <mooey> ubuntu__, o_O hmz?
[03:16] <Victor```> 2.0* firefox doesn't seem to like KDE
[03:16] <everton137> Emacs: does someone here uses Emacs on Ubuntu e] Edgy?
[03:16] <ubuntu__> lol ^_^
[03:16] <ubuntu__> vi :)
[03:16] <Victor```> everton137: why?
[03:16] <I-kido> I-kido also 2.0* firefox doesn't seem to like KDE
[03:17] <Victor```> emacs, esc-x, type doctor :X
[03:17] <jrib> !anyone | everton137
[03:17] <ubotu> everton137: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:17] <everton137> Victor```, ubotu, because when I did, no one answered, then I did a not so detailed one. ;-)
[03:18] <capiira> hmmmm noone here ever wondered about that broken gnome nautilus icon ?
[03:18] <everton137> Victor```, I've upgraded ubuntu dapper to edgy and I am having problems with Emacs fonts (they appears as squares). I changed /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but problems continues. Does someone know how to solve this?
[03:18] <jpjacobs> everton137, ubotu is a bot, not much sense in replying to it...
[03:18] <jrib> capiira: what broken gnome nautilus icon?
[03:19] <everton137> jpjacobs, thanks. if he was paying attetion on forum, he would see his answer was kinda silly
[03:19] <I-kido> Broken Nautilus Icon: wrong or corrupted Icon Theme
[03:19] <ubuntu__> everton137: hi
[03:19] <ubuntu__> everton137:  did u download emacs fonts package?
[03:19] <capiira> its soooo damn small like a point
[03:19] <jrib> capiira: but I don't know what you are referring to.  Maybe a screenshot would help
[03:19] <capiira> even on the live cd
[03:20] <capiira> open the nautilus
[03:20] <capiira> then on the top right there is a icon animation
[03:20] <capiira> on the tool bar where the buttons are
[03:20] <jrib> !enter
[03:20] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:21] <capiira> :)
[03:21] <everton137> ubuntu__, I don't think so. let me apt-cache search and dpkg -l this. could you inform the package name? I just gooogle about my problem, but no one said about extra packages for emcas on edgy...
[03:21] <jrib> capiira: the foot?
[03:21] <capiira> yes
[03:21] <voltagex> I need help with an Avermedia Hybrid card (saa7134)
[03:21] <capiira> looks like a small point here
[03:21] <Ubuntuguy> All -- looking for help with ipod.  under dapper and edgy it doesn't automount.  How can I enable automount?
[03:21] <ubuntu__> everton137:  emcas-intl-fonts
[03:21] <jrib> capiira: ok I see now, yeah I guess it looks small
[03:21] <ubuntu__> see if that helps
[03:22] <capiira> but its not a ubuntu only problem
[03:22] <everton137> dpkg -l | grep emacs | grep font -> ii  emacs-intl-fonts                           1.2.1-6ubuntu1
[03:22] <everton137> ubuntu__, dpkg -l | grep emacs | grep font -> ii  emacs-intl-fonts                           1.2.1-6ubuntu1
[03:23] <voltagex> anyone got ideas on how to get this tv card working?
[03:24] <everton137> ubuntu__, yes, I have it abnd fonts are squares... the strange thing is that xemacs appears its font, but menu at the top doesn't appear
[03:24] <ubuntu__> no idea then sorry
[03:25] <okyz> hi
[03:25] <okyz> Im having trouble installing ubuntu from n] 
[03:25] <okyz> another linux computer
[03:26] <deebu> has anyone used axel for downloading files?
[03:26] <n2diy_> okyz: ethernet, wireless?
[03:26] <jhaig> Is it possible to find out why a computer needs rebooting after an update?  I don't remember seeing any kernel packages being updated.
[03:26] <capiira> let me see if there is a public gnome bugzilla
[03:27] <okyz> okyz: no, i have all the data on the CD. its just that im using debootstrap to copy the files
[03:27] <okyz> im trying to set up my thin client with ubuntu
[03:27] <n2diy_> okyz: Sorry, I don't know, good luck.
[03:27] <das-q> hmm, chaining like that ->      tail -f somelog.txt | grep -v 'I don't wanna see this' | grep -v 'and that as well not'     <- doesn't work, why?
[03:28] <das-q> at least it doesn't seem to work with tail, as I remember that it worked in conjunction with a simple cat
[03:28] <jhaig> das-q: In what way does it not work?
[03:28] <pike_> okyz: have you checked https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation  yet for a guide?
[03:28] <das-q> jhaig: it doesn't print anything anymore
[03:28] <okyz> das-q: -f means follow right
[03:28] <okyz> remove it and it will work
[03:28] <das-q> okyz: right
[03:29] <das-q> it works with only one grep
[03:29] <das-q> that's what i mean
[03:29] <jhaig> das-q: Is the text in the quote just an example or really what you are trying?  It has a single quote character in it which is messing things up.
[03:29] <das-q> I just want to define some strings to filter out
[03:29] <das-q> jhaig: just an example, no stupid errors :)
[03:29] <okyz> das-q: maybe sed will be better
[03:30] <das-q> okyz: thanks, I'll try sed
[03:30] <jrib> das-q: tail -f foo | egrep -v 'foo|bar|cat|dog'    should work.  I'm not sure why yours does not
[03:30] <das-q> jrib: ah, well, that of coure should work too
[03:30] <kenthomson> I can't setup wengophone. Can someone please help?
[03:30] <das-q> tail -f access.log | grep -v 'dapper-security Firefox/1.5.0.7' | grep -v 'Gecko/20060601 Firefox/2.0.0.1 (Ubuntu-edgy)'
[03:30] <das-q> that was my exact try
[03:30] <okyz> anyone here used debootstrap+
[03:30] <jhaig> das-q: I'm not sure, but you could try escaping the / character
[03:31] <jrib> das-q: when I pipe twice to grep it fails to display anything for me too
[03:31] <jrib> (with tail -f)
[03:31] <das-q> jrib: ah, good to know
[03:31] <das-q> jrib: but I remember that this worked with cat instead. Anyway, I'll try that egrep-solution now
[03:31] <jrib> das-q: well I'm pretty sure it has to do with the -f
[03:32] <n2diy_> okyz: Your using a Dvorak aren't you?
[03:32] <jhaig> jrib: I'm pretty sure that the "tail -f" is fine.
[03:32] <das-q> jrib: but I _want_ to follow the file
[03:32] <okyz> n2diy_: its just a normal qwerty with b0rked keymapping
[03:32] <das-q> jrib: and it _does_ work with only one grep :)
[03:32] <jrib> das-q: right, I'm just saying that's the reason cat is working
[03:32] <pl_ice> yo, whats up? :P
[03:33] <das-q> alright, it works that way:   tail -f access.log | egrep -v 'dapper-security Firefox/1.5.0.7|Gecko/20060601 Firefox/2.0.0.1 (Ubuntu-edgy)'
[03:33] <n2diy_> okyz: ok, the ? and the + keys are adjacent on a Dvorak.
[03:33] <das-q> thanks people
[03:33] <pl_ice> guys, in gaim, how do i search for other users? can't find that option....
[03:33] <okyz> n2diy_: i didnt find the question mark here, so i typed + and figured you would understand :P
[03:34] <daedra> yo
[03:34] <das-q> ah, dammit, it doesn't filter out at least the latter one, geez :o)
[03:34] <n2diy_> okyz: 10-4!  :)
[03:34] <daedra> how do I add a gpg key to open up a repo in my sources list?
[03:34] <bronze> Hi all, I Just installed Kubuntu and i was wondering if there are any major differences between how Ubuntu and Kubunto system are administered?
[03:34] <bronze> *Kubuntu
[03:34] <jrib> das-q: maybe surround each expression in (), like  (foo)|(bar), the () are special in egrep I think
[03:34] <das-q> jrib: just doing so :)
[03:35] <das-q> jrib: had to escape the other parenthesis too
[03:35] <okyz> n2diy_: this debootstrap script is really weird. :S I dont like it one bit
[03:35] <eXistenZ> debootstrap is like a configuration for the chroot env?
[03:35] <das-q> tail -f access.log | egrep -v '(dapper-security Firefox/1.5.0.7|Gecko/20060601 Firefox/2.0.0.1 \(Ubuntu-edgy\))'
[03:35] <das-q> wonderful :o)
[03:35] <n2diy_> okyz: Fine business, just the name scares me.
[03:35] <benkong2> hello all
[03:36] <daedra> how do I add a gpg key to open up a repo in my sources list?
[03:36] <benkong2> anyone help on a question of blacklist and orinco_pci driver for my intersil prism 2.5 wireless card?
[03:36] <jrib> daedra: apt-key add
[03:37] <daedra> jrib: "gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found."
[03:37] <daedra> :(
[03:37] <kenthomson> Is there someway i can call someone who is logged in the 'yahoo-messenger'? a pc-to-pc call, without using the official yahoo messenger? Does GAIM allow that? please help
[03:37] <jrib> daedra: you need to have the key
[03:37] <jrib> daedra: it's apt-key add file.gpg   for example
[03:38] <benkong2> If I just add prism2_pci and hostap_pci to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist will that allow me to get a working wireless connection?
[03:38] <daedra> jrib: yeah thats what I did
[03:38] <kenthomson> jrib, could you please help me with the above question
[03:38] <jrib> daedra: can you link me to the .gpg file you are using?
[03:38] <daedra> jrib: but apparently the file has no valid OpenPGP info :S
[03:38] <gnomefreak> jrib: hav eyou ever tried adding time stamp to a terminal?
[03:39] <jrib> kenthomson: I don't know, try #gaim
[03:39] <kenthomson> gnomefreak, can you please help me with the above question
[03:39] <kenthomson> jrib, thank you, i shall try it
[03:39] <pl_ice> benkong2 try  it ;) it will remove the module , should work
[03:39] <jrib> gnomefreak: I have it, but I use zsh, here is what my prompt looks like:  (jasonr@luso:~)%                                                                     (9:39/8157)
[03:39] <gnomefreak> kenthomson: voip in gaim?
[03:39] <daedra> jrib: http://deb.grml.org/dists/grml-stable/Release.gpg
[03:39] <gnomefreak> thats default for zsh isnt it?
[03:40] <jrib> gnomefreak: default zsh is just  %  :P
[03:40] <smithw> Why does "echo `dpkg -l` >> somefile.txt" gets me a file with everything in one line?
[03:40] <hhanne> hi there. I use ndiswrapper for my pci wlan card. but the module will not load automatically, how can i change that?
[03:40] <imhotepp> Guys, I accidentaly removed myself from the admin group using usermod, now I can't sudo and do any administrative task
[03:40] <jrib> gnomefreak: mine is similar to what you get with  prompt elite2
[03:40] <math_> hello, how can I rename files with spaces like: "some file here.txt" to "some_file_here.txt" underscores ?
[03:41] <gnomefreak> jrib: thats good than. i will play with it a bit see what i can do with it
[03:41] <imhotepp> how can I put myself back to the admin group please?
[03:41] <jrib> math_: do you know about regex?
[03:41] <kenthomson> gnomefreak, this is my requirement: I need to call someone who is logged into the official yahoo messenger. Is it possible without using the official yahoo messenger?
[03:41] <math_> no?
[03:41] <jrib> imhotepp: reboot, choose "recovery mode" from the grub menu,  then run this command:   adduser YOUR_USERNAME_HERE admin
[03:41] <math_> jrib, never heard of it
[03:41] <bronze> imhotepp: boot single user and edit the /etc/group fileby hand?
[03:41] <pl_ice> imhotepp :)
[03:41] <imhotepp> damnit
[03:41] <gnomefreak> kenthomson: you may need to use ekgika(sp) or skype or something of the like
[03:41] <math_> jrib, with the command rename it must be posible?
[03:42] <kenthomson> gnomefreak, i am having/using ekiga
[03:42] <kenthomson> gnomefreak, but i cannot enter someone's yahoo--id, in ekiga and call them directly.
[03:42] <jrib> math_: yes, with a regex.  I think   rename -n 'y/ /_/' *     should work.  Try it, it won't do anyuthing for real unless you remove the -n
[03:42] <gnomefreak> kenthomson: than i dont know i have telephones i use for calls
[03:42] <pl_ice> imhotepp yeh single user....
[03:42] <daedra> jrib: does it work for u?
[03:42] <imhotepp> grub doesnt show menu, ubuntu is the only OS in this machine
[03:42] <math_> -n is for testing?
[03:43] <math_> jrib,
[03:43] <imhotepp> how do I choose single user?
[03:43] <gnomefreak> kenthomson: you may want to see if #ekiga is open and if so if they can help
[03:43] <jrib> daedra: nope, weird
[03:43] <jrib> imhotepp: press escape when you are booting up
[03:43] <kenthomson> gnomefreak, ok
[03:43] <daedra> jrib: yeah I thought it was a quirk
[03:43] <pl_ice> imhotepp search google ubuntu single user, very simple
[03:43] <kenthomson> jrib, #gaim is almost asleep :(
[03:44] <daedra> jrib: thanks anyway
[03:44] <math_> jrib, thank you very much
[03:44] <math_> thats what I was looking for :)
[03:44] <jrib> math_: http://www.regular-expressions.info/  are good to know
[03:44] <imhotepp> so the single user mode is unprotected (no password?)
[03:44] <math_> realy powerfull to change names like that
[03:45] <jrib> imhotepp: correct, unless you set a root password
[03:45] <imhotepp> and I will be logged in as root?
[03:45] <pl_ice> imhotepp yes
[03:45] <n2diy_> jrib: + :)
[03:45] <NixNewb> can i make this ubuntu box act as a gateway with the uplink a wireless card?
[03:45] <pl_ice> imhotepp no passwd required for root
[03:45] <imhotepp> then I can just use usermod to undo my blunder?
[03:45] <jrib> imhotepp: the adduser command I gave you is probably simpler, but yes you could use that
[03:46] <pl_ice> imhotepp yes, or like the guy said, u can edit the files by hand, just an ascii file, simple
[03:46] <jrib> imhotepp: I guess usermod is how you got into this situation?
[03:46] <imhotepp> jrib:yup
[03:46] <imhotepp> i didn't realize -G takes u away from ALL other groups
[03:46] <imhotepp> :(
[03:47] <pl_ice> imhotepp we all learn on the mistakes :P (wish could say that to my boss...)
[03:47] <bronze> pl_ice: you can, make sure you do that part on a test system tho'  :-)
[03:48] <pl_ice> bronze couple of beers and i can do anything ;)
[03:49] <bronze> :)
[03:50] <imhotepp> Thanks fellas, I 'll go test this....
[03:50] <imhotepp> before anyone here finds out what happened to me
[03:50] <pl_ice> imhotepp ;) g'luck, u won't have much problems with that
[03:51] <bronze> I have a machine on a Static Ip LAN, and the Network GUi admin tool isn't working. it keeps losing any info I put in it so I am setting up networking by hand (not on the machine I'm typing on obviously). I have created /etc/resolv.conf but I can't get any DNS lookups to work?  Can anyone help me?
[03:51] <benkong2> what is this error telling me on an emerge -uD world "ebuild', '/', 'app-admin/eselect-1.0.7', 'nomerge') pulled in by"?
[03:52] <math_> jrib, the manual of rename says, to rename upper cases of names to lower cases, you've to type rename y/A-Z/a-z/ *, but then the termiUnrecognized character \xE2 at (eval 1) line 1.
[03:52] <math_> nal says:
[03:52] <jrib> benkong2: wrong room?
[03:52] <kenthomson> Anyone knows how i can call someone on yahoo-messenger?
[03:52] <benkong2> jrib yea ur right sorry
[03:53] <pl_ice> bronze , resolv.conf leave that alone, itls all in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:53] <jrib> math_: weird, do you have funky characters in the names?
[03:53] <lupine_85> pl_ice: no, nameserver stuff can go in resolv.conf
[03:53] <bronze> pl_ice: ? I dont understand.  Does that mean I have to put resolv.conf in that dir?
[03:53] <math_> erm not realy
[03:53] <math_> jrib,
[03:54] <jrib> math_: does it happen when you specify a particular file instead of *
[03:54] <n2diy_> bronze:  you created /etc/resolv.conf? Who own its?
[03:54] <ronalde> shorewall (on edgy) doesn't log to /var/log/messages while all shorewall, sysklog, klogd log-related settings are default. Does anybody have pointers?
[03:54] <bronze> n2diy_: root
[03:54] <yokobr> hi
[03:54] <math_> jrib, both
[03:54] <n2diy_> bronze:  that is correct. ?
[03:54] <pl_ice> yeh, resolf.conf got ur nameserver but it's setup automatically through the file in networks
[03:54] <pl_ice> thats how i do it
[03:55] <yokobr> does anyone know a way to get xgl under ubuntu 64?
[03:55] <bronze> n2diy_: root owns /etc/resolv.conf
[03:55] <SoulChild> hey... short question, how can i hide a terminal?
[03:55] <Rage___> SoulChild: minimize it?
[03:55] <bronze> pl_ice: which file? interfaces?
[03:55] <n2diy_> bronze:  that is correct.
[03:55] <SoulChild> RAGE___ no i dont want to see it
[03:55] <SoulChild> RAGE___ even not in the taskbar
[03:55] <pl_ice> SoulChild kdocker program, i think thats what u want? google kdocker
[03:56] <bronze> n2diy_: but after restarting network, i get no lookups
[03:56] <pl_ice> bronze /etc/network/interfaces  thats the setting for lan etc
[03:56] <SoulChild> pl_ice: i ve connected via vpn in termnal, and since i am connected terminal is not editable anymore... so i dont want to see it
[03:56] <n2diy_> bronze:  how many interfaces do you see with ifconfig?
[03:56] <bronze> pl_ice: I'm familiar with the file, had to use to set up my Nic, What do I put in it?
[03:56] <jhaig> SoulChild: Why do you need to hide it?  You could run screen, detatch and then close the terminal window.
[03:57] <bronze> n2diy_:  eth0 and lo
[03:57] <jrib> math_: k, can you paste your last command here so I can try it?
[03:57] <pl_ice> SoulChild hm, not sure, i think i know what u mean
[03:57] <n2diy_> bronze:  cool, can you ping eth0, or its IP address?
[03:57] <math_> rename y/A-Z/a-z/ *
[03:57] <pl_ice> bronze , man interfaces
[03:57] <math_> jrib, rename y/A-Z/a-z/ *
[03:57] <bronze> ping it iwth itself?
[03:58] <jrib> math_: use ' not, 
[03:58] <math_> ooh
[03:58] <bronze> n2diy_: yes. that works
[03:58] <n2diy_> bronze:  cool, can you ping your router?
[03:58] <math_> jrib, wait...
[03:58] <Encep> yeah baby
[03:58] <bronze> yes
[03:58] <godzilla8nj2day> Trying to set up network persistence (similar to www.slax.org/webconfig.php but on my own server) for multiple users. Is there any documentation on Ubuntu LiveCD persistence more detailed than https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDPersistence?
[03:58] <Encep> oh yaeh
[03:58] <gean> hi everybody! is there any ubuntu package (orr at least linux free soft), that can do the following: combine a PDF file (mathematics, say) with sound (ogg, say), such that the result can be seen as a ``film'', where the image does not change very quickly, but rather every 20 seconds up to 2 min ?! Help & suggestions are highly appreciated!
[03:59] <Encep> nie
[03:59] <Encep> nie
[03:59] <Encep> nie
[03:59] <Encep> nie
[03:59] <Encep> nie
[03:59] <Encep> me
[03:59] <Encep> nue
[03:59] <jrib> Encep: stop please
[03:59] <bronze> pl_ice: don't see any optin in man interfaces for setting nameservers orDNS services. can you Hint me what keyword to look for in that manpage?
[03:59] <SoulChild> hey,... how can i hide the terminal, i ve connected to a vpn client and i am not in edit mode anymore, so how can i hide it ?
[04:00] <bronze> n2diy_: yes I can.
[04:00] <math_> jrib, u sure to use ' instead of  ?
[04:00] <n2diy_> bronze:  cool, can you ping yahoo.com?
[04:00] <jrib> math_: yes
[04:00] <pl_ice> man iwconfig or man ifconfig
[04:00] <bronze> no
[04:00] <gean> i am aware of the swftools, but it is not simple to do the job: combine PDF + ogg in a ``rather starry movie''
[04:00] <gean> any better suggestion?!
[04:00] <math_> then it does'nt do anything
[04:00] <jhaig> SoulChild: I'm not entirely sure what you mean, but you could run 'screen' in the terminal, then detach when you have finished with it and close the terminal window.
[04:00] <bronze> n2diy_: no, get unkown host
[04:01] <pl_ice> bronze do u want my config, i'm going through a router, static ip, can post it if u like
[04:01] <bronze> pl_ice: please.
[04:01] <jhaig> SoulChild: 'screen' continues to run in the background.
[04:01] <jrib> math_: use -v, does it tell you anything?
[04:01] <math_> jrib, nothing happend when I do: 'y/A-Z/a-z/'
[04:01] <n2diy_> bronze:  bummer, check your router configuration, either your packets aren't getting out, or the returns aren't allowed, or maybe both?
[04:01] <SoulChild> jhaig: no, i can't type anymore cause i am connected to internet
[04:02] <bronze> n2diy_: router is fine. all other systems on the LAn (like this one) are fine.
[04:02] <jhaig> SoulChild: Well, you have to run screen at the start, and then do everything in the screen session.
[04:02] <math_> jrib, rename -v 'y/A-Z/a-z/'
[04:02] <math_> reading filenames from STDIN
[04:02] <lightup> can anybody help me with compiling cairo please?  configure keeps telling me to install freetype and fontconfig but apt-get tells me fontconfig is the newest version and i have just compiled and installed freetype
[04:02] <n2diy_> bronze:  all behind the same router?
[04:02] <math_> jrib, after that I cant type
[04:02] <jrib> math_: you forgot the * to tell it what files to work on
[04:02] <jrib> math_: press ctrld
[04:02] <jrib> math_: press ctrl-d
[04:02] <math_> ah ofcour
[04:02] <math_> se
[04:02] <bronze> n2diy_: yes
[04:02] <SoulChild> jhaig: okay thanks
[04:02] <pl_ice> bronze http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/832/
[04:03] <n2diy_> bronze:  hmm
[04:03] <jhaig> SoulChild: but that is the only way I can think of doing it.
[04:03] <bronze> interesting just pinged cnn.com by its IP address.  and got error - network unreachable....
[04:03] <math_> jrib, ok it works :)
[04:03] <bronze> but pinged it from this machine just fine.
[04:03] <bronze> so I clearly have an issue on my Ubuntu system
[04:04] <maurox> hello does anyone had problems updating libc6 ????????
[04:04] <kenthomson> Can i download yahoo messenger from ubuntu repos??????
[04:04] <godzilla8nj2day> Trying to set up network persistence (similar to www.slax.org/webconfig.php but on my own server) for multiple users. Is there any documentation on Ubuntu LiveCD persistence more detailed than https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDPersistence ? Is this the right place for this question? No posts on this in the forums.
[04:04] <math_> jrib, last question
[04:04] <math_> jrib, how to do this with all sub-dirs?
[04:04] <bitmvnch> kenthomson: you can download gaim or kopete, which are compatible
[04:04] <bitmvnch> afaik
[04:04] <jrib> math_: what shell do you use?
[04:04] <math_> jrib, -R does not work
[04:04] <kenthomson> bitmvnch, i want to call yahoo users
[04:04] <n2diy_> bronze:  what about the ethernet cable, it could be loose or bad, what else could it be?
[04:05] <bitmvnch> kenthomson: yes gaim or kopete should support the yahoo protocol
[04:05] <math_> the default one from gnome
[04:05] <Dimensions> kenthomson: why do u need yahoo msn ... u can use Gaim ... which is all in one ...
[04:05] <bitmvnch> otherwise go to yahoo.com, see if they have a gnu/linux client
[04:05] <kenthomson> Dimensions, bitmvnch, i am talking about 'calling' users who are logged-into the official yahoo messenger. calling as in voicecalls to users with yahoo-ids.
[04:06] <kenthomson> Can i download the official yahoo messenger from ubuntu repos?
[04:06] <bitmvnch> kenthomson: then go to yahoo.com, you probably need the proprietary client (which stinks)
[04:06] <bronze> n2diy_: have to assume its good. i can ping the router
[04:06] <jrib> math_: k, you are using bash.  zsh will let you specify **/* as a recursive glob.  But with bash, you'll have to use the 'find' command along with -exec.  From the top of my head,  find -exec rename 'y/A-Z/a-z/' '{}' \;
[04:06] <bitmvnch> no, you can't, afaik, because yahoo probably does not allow redistribution.
[04:06] <kenthomson> bitmvnch, how else do i place calls to yahoo users?
[04:06] <bronze> it was Ok yesterday too.. :-)
[04:06] <bitmvnch> it's a different kind of software, for a different kind of world.
[04:06] <kenthomson> bitmvnch, ok
[04:06] <n2diy_> bronze:  ah yes, that is correct.
[04:06] <bitmvnch> knethomson: get new friends or use an evil OS ;)
[04:07] <kenthomson> bitmvnch, what about calling someone on Windows (pc-to-pc)? what is the easiest way? (low-latency, clear voice is a must)?
[04:07] <math_> jrib, ok
[04:07] <math_> jrib, what is zsh? some shell?
[04:07] <n2diy_> bronze:  do you have another Ubuntu box connected to this router?
[04:07] <jrib> math_: yep, it's another shell.  Has some nify features
[04:07] <kenthomson> n2diy_, 'box' sounds ugly :(
[04:07] <bitmvnch> kenthomson: you can use applications like skype which are, last i checked, supported on all major platforms, but that also won't be in ubuntu repo afaik.
[04:08] <n2diy_> bronze:  do you have another Ubuntu box connected to this router?
[04:08] <math_> sudo apt-get install zsh? :)
[04:08] <bronze> n2diy_: pl_ice Got it! :)
[04:08] <jrib> math_: yep
[04:08] <kenthomson> bitmvnch, ok
[04:08] <math_> ah ok
[04:08] <bitmvnch> there is also google talk only on windows, but i know nothing more of it than i can't use it.
[04:08] <bronze> n2diy_: pl_ice added "gateway line to /etc/networkinginterfaces.
[04:08] <pike_> kenthomson: ekiga is a good free alternative to skype i beliece
[04:08] <bronze> much Gracias fellas!
[04:08] <n2diy_> ????????????
[04:08] <n2diy_> bronze:  do you have another Ubuntu box connected to this router?
[04:08] <bronze> n2diy_: no
[04:09] <kenthomson> pike_, and how do i call a windows users through ekiga? Is it available on windows? And is it easy to setup for the windows user? (you see i am causing the windows user undue problems by asking for a seperate software to talk to me). ANd has it got clear voic, low-latency?
[04:09] <n2diy_> bronze:  ok, thank you.  ummm
[04:09] <bronze> n2diy_: My dns lookups are working now
[04:09] <lupine_85> kenthomson: it's just SIP
[04:09] <bitmvnch> heh, i sniped at both of google and vonage's HR departments over the fact that they couldn't communicate with my SIP phone.
[04:09] <bronze> i was missing the gateway definition in the interfaces file
[04:09] <bitmvnch> "what do you mean can i hear you now? aren't you a phone company?"
[04:09] <bronze> i wonder why the gUI lost that?
[04:09] <bitmvnch> ;)
[04:10] <lupine_85> so - it being an open standard - you can call any other user with a SIP softphone
[04:10] <kenthomson> lupine_85, Hi! :)
[04:10] <lupine_85> :p
[04:10] <n2diy_> bronze:  can you surf?
[04:10] <godzilla8nj2day> anyone? (cricket, cricket) i'm trying to get some help creating a livecd that stores persistence for multiple users on a mounted drive on my server. does anyone know of any documentation on persistence?
[04:10] <kenthomson> lupine_85, so tell me, is there a way, in which i can call users who are logged-into the official yahoo messenger?
[04:10] <pl_ice> bronze gui does not work for a long time ~ a year :P
[04:10] <bronze> n2diy_: pl_ice   OK, Now  How do i start up the Internet thingy ?  I want my own Like Al Gore has.... :-)
[04:10] <mena> ubuntu__, Are You here
[04:10] <bronze> pl_ice: aha.  Good to know
[04:11] <yokobr> hey guys, anyone knows a way to run dapper 64bit+beryl+nvidia?
[04:11] <lupine_85> kenthomson: I have no idea. You'd need to find out what protocol, etc it uses
[04:11] <mc__> yokobr: google knows
[04:11] <kenthomson> lupine_85, you are again going to cause me extra tussle? is it? Is this always gottu be so difficult?
[04:11] <kenthomson> :)
[04:11] <yokobr> ive tryied a loot man
[04:11] <yokobr> cant find
[04:11] <mena> okay friends how can i remove all the kubuntu apps and the kde with command
[04:11] <lupine_85> kenthomson: if you don't like it, you can ask Yahoo for a Linux version of their client, I guess
[04:12] <jrib> mena: how did you install it?
[04:12] <kenthomson> lupine_85, or else tell me this, what is the easiest way to call someone on a windows PC? (what software do i ask him/her to use as their SIP softphone)?
[04:12] <jrib> mena: and what version of ubuntu are you using?
[04:12] <mena> jrib, thrwo comand
[04:12] <lupine_85> any SIP softphone.
[04:12] <kenthomson> lupine_85, one exists for linux, but remember we are against proprietary software? :)
[04:12] <jrib> mena: which command?
[04:12] <kenthomson> lupine_85, as in...?any recommendations?
[04:12] <Dimensions> kenthomson:  the easiest way is to use Skype ... its quality is best ... and its used on both windows and linux
[04:12] <lupine_85> no. I don't use windows :p
[04:12] <mena> the terminal
[04:12] <lupine_85> Dimensions: skype quality is crap
[04:12] <jrib> mena: apt-get or aptitude?
[04:13] <kenthomson> lupine_85, Dimensions <clears throat> ??
[04:13] <mena> wait a secone
[04:13] <mena> d
[04:13] <lupine_85> it's *also* properietary, locks you in, and steals your u/s bandwidth :p
[04:13] <Dimensions> lupine_85:  we use it in professional life ... in our office ...
[04:13] <lupine_85> poor you :/
[04:13] <kenthomson> Dimensions, it's developement is stalled on Linux
[04:13] <Dimensions> we use Skype to talk to any one around the world ...
[04:13] <lupine_85> what's wrong with IAX ?
[04:13] <bronze> lupine_85: We are using skype here, quality seems fine.
[04:13] <mena> jrib, apt-get
[04:13] <jrib> mena: k, what version of ubuntu?
[04:14] <bronze> lupine_85: what should we be listening for?
[04:14] <kenthomson> Dimensions, 'around the world' as in, International space station or the ones residing on the surface? :)
[04:14] <mena> jrib, 6.10
[04:14] <lupine_85> I'd have thought a company wouldn't like skype taking their bandwidth
[04:14] <Dimensions> kenthomson:  just go to skpe.com or sudo apt-get install skype
[04:14] <jrib> mena: try 'sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop'  and then maybe 'sudo apt-get autoremove'
[04:14] <kenthomson> Dimensions, ok
[04:14] <lupine_85> bronze: just general poor quality here
[04:14] <Ubuntuguy> All -- looking for help with ipod.  under dapper and edgy it doesn't automount.  How can I enable automount?
[04:14] <lupine_85> 8128/832 low-latency broadband, as well
[04:14] <Dimensions> lupine_85:  may be ur bandwidth sux ?
[04:15] <mena> jrib, okay but that will reomve the whole kubintu with apps
[04:15] <jrib> mena: in theory (I've never tried it)
[04:15] <lupine_85> it's only one of the fastest residential links in the UK :p
[04:15] <kenthomson> Dimensions, make that skype.com :)
[04:15] <bronze> lupine_85: oh, ok. sorry to here that.
[04:15] <Dimensions> yeah kenthomson :)
[04:15] <kenthomson> lupine_85, and for internet telephony you use <what software>?
[04:15] <lupine_85> I use linphone
[04:15] <mena> jrib, okay ...so what do you recomend for my ubuntu or kubuntu
[04:15] <Dimensions> lupine_85:  ... for us it works just like linephone
[04:15] <kenthomson> lupine_85, say that again? :)
[04:16] <jrib> mena: whichever you like better.  They are both good.  Using both is fine too
[04:16] <lupine_85> linphone is fine, ekiga is fine
[04:16] <lupine_85> linphone lets me select my second soundcard for in & output, so I use it
[04:16] <kenthomson> lupine_85, linphone, ekiga, wengo. Take your pick and recommend one to me
[04:16] <mena> jrib, okay
[04:16] <lupine_85> never heard of wengo
[04:16] <kenthomson> lupine_85, though i only have one soundcard
[04:16] <lupine_85> ekiga is prettier than linphone
[04:16] <lupine_85> apart from that, and the soundcard thing, they're much of a muchness
[04:16] <godzilla8nj2day> have USB Stick persistence working. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDPersistence  says root of auto mounted hd can also store persistence so long as named casper-rw. ne1 know of docs on persistence that would make multiple user persistence possible on networked server? like www.slax.org/webconfig.php ?
[04:17] <Dimensions> ekiga isn't for windows ?
[04:17] <mena> jrib, but when i install kubuntu some apps has erros in icons
[04:17] <xopher-> What, kenthomson, you didnt give up on ubuntu yet? :P
[04:17] <mena> k apps
[04:17] <jrib> mena: I don't know about that
[04:17] <kenthomson> xopher-, Looks like everybody is ganging me up. :)
[04:17] <lupine_85> Dimensions: last time I checked they had a preliminary build of ekiga for windows
[04:17] <mena> jrib, okay
[04:17] <lupine_85> very experimental though
[04:17] <xopher-> kenthomson, hehe, that happens yaeh :)
[04:17] <lupine_85> but since you can use any SIP softphone with it, it's not an issue
[04:17] <Past_Images> hi guys, got a problem. i've added a Pictures folder to home and chosen it as screensaver in preferences - but the transitions are so slow on my old hardware - its for a shop window display, is there a way to change the settings...? please help me out?
[04:18] <kenthomson> lupine_85, i suggest you rush to http://www.wengophone.com/index.php/homePage, i recommend it
[04:18] <Past_Images> just need to change how many secs each pic is on and also change transition type to none??
[04:18] <Past_Images> but don't know where to do it
[04:18] <kenthomson> xopher- , you know of anyway to call users logged into the official yahoo messenger? call as in, voice call.
[04:18] <blackangel> hello how do you do?
[04:18] <mena> jrib, thanks i think the seconed comand you give will remove all k apps ...thanks again
[04:18] <Dimensions> well kenthomson ... why dont u download all of them ? and see which one is better and then come and tell us ur results ... my experience is telling me skype as we use it from UK to America Asia Europe ...
[04:19] <Morrissey> !easysource
[04:19] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:19] <lupine_85> mm, SIP?
[04:19] <Dimensions> now if you are going to ask 957 users of channel thats something else then ....
[04:19] <bronze> sweet!   just mystyped URL > www.ubunto.com,  got redirected to ubuntu.com!
[04:19] <kenthomson> Dimensions, i shall perform the survey and post the results at www.myLifeSucksDueToLInux.com, ok? Or do you need more sarcasm? :)
[04:19] <seanj> so much for user-friendly :(
[04:19] <xopher-> kenthomson, nope, sorry, haven't used internet calling that much.. actually only once or twice, and that was with windows 95, so.. well.. yeah.. :)
[04:19] <kenthomson> Dimensions, all this extra effort is just not my cup-o-tea :)
[04:20] <Dimensions> nah kenthomson instead post it to ...www.iamconfusedhead.com
[04:20] <kenthomson> xopher- , you got your hair-cut or are they draggin behind you on the ground? :)
[04:20] <bronze> kenthomson: so why did you invent UNIx anyway?
[04:20] <kenthomson> bronze, ain't funny.
[04:20] <Dimensions> :)
[04:20] <lupine_85> install $linux_app on PC 1, $windows_app on PC2, call
[04:20] <bronze> kenthomson: is your nick your real name?
[04:20] <lupine_85> but yeah. I'm off for revision now
[04:20] <kenthomson> bronze, i didn't think it would come in my after life to haunt me that way
[04:21] <kenthomson> bronze, real name = nick name (that's what normal people do) :)
[04:21] <Dimensions> tc lupine_85...
[04:21] <jpjacobs> i saw a post on freshmeat about skype. it apears they slush anybodies calls through random clients to get thelm through NATs etc: freshmeat.net/articles/view/2079/
[04:21] <cherva> anyone to help installing Flash 8 Pro ?
[04:21] <bronze> kenthomson: heh, sorry.  At least you don't have an exact match to Ken thompson
[04:21] <Dimensions> lol bronze
[04:22] <kenthomson> bronze, yeah the 'p' is missing, but don't worry that's good :)
[04:22] <constrictor> is mozilla sunbird in the repos
[04:22] <riaal> Hi, I just inserted a wierless network card in my laptop, no installation detection stuff poped up. what do I need to do? It's an Dell and a C-net network card
[04:22] <n2diy_> constrictor: not since last week
[04:22] <xopher-> kenthomson, actually I got out of the army 6 months ago, I was practically shaven bald for 12months there, now it's uhm, normal I guess, I let it grow a bit, just to make sure I was able to get my hair back, gonna cut it soon though.
[04:22] <constrictor> oh no
[04:23] <xopher-> But. no, not shoulder length
[04:23] <kenthomson> xopher- , i thought cave-man had it that way ("never used internet telephony") :)
[04:23] <pike_> riaal: you might just check your network config tool and see if the device is showing up. like eth1 or ath0 or wlan0 or whatever
[04:23] <n2diy_> constrictor: I mean I checked the repos last week, and it wasn' t there, I got it off the moz site.
[04:23] <kenthomson> xopher- , i was talking about ankle-length :)
[04:23] <constrictor> i/me banging my head against the wall
[04:23] <kenthomson> !offtopic > kenthomson :)
[04:23] <constrictor> oh right
[04:23] <xopher-> kenthomson, hehe, I type faster than I talk I guess :D
[04:23] <xopher-> :>
[04:23] <constrictor> feeling very dumb right now
[04:24] <riaal> pike_: cool, so its normal that nothing pops up? It looks almost unpowerd (no lights)
[04:24] <kenthomson> constrictor, i don't think anyone here feels any different :)
[04:24] <cherva> anyone installed Flash 8 Pro ???
[04:24] <pike_> riaal: ah well there would idealy be lights :)
[04:24] <kenthomson> cherva, i have it on <what's the other os called?> :)
[04:24] <riaal> pike_: =) that tue
[04:24] <Falstius> BSD?
[04:24] <mutabaruk> does anybody know how to ger rid of the irritating 'your session has been saved' popup when you power down
[04:25] <n2diy_> constrictor: ?????? Go get, and make sure to install it under /opt.
[04:25] <mutabaruk> ?
 how did you installed it ?
[04:25] <constrictor> aha
[04:25] <vleon> is ter someone here that uses tv out? i seem to have problems with that?
[04:25] <kenthomson> cherva, on Windoze? :)
[04:25] <constrictor> you mean decompress it into opt?
[04:25] <cherva> on ubuntu
[04:25] <godzilla8nj2day> what's the best doc on creating your own livecd? Does anyone know if you can use a mounted network drive instead of usb stick for persistence?
[04:25] <kenthomson> cherva, i ain't did it
[04:25] <n2diy_> constrictor: that would work too.
[04:26] <kenthomson> lupine_85, xopher-, Bye! Happy UBUNT-ing
[04:26] <constrictor> sorry n2diy_ was there another method?
[04:26] <xopher-> kenthomson, bye
[04:26] <n2diy_> constrictor: do you have the package?
[04:26] <constrictor> n2diy_:nah going to d/l it now
[04:27] <cherva> ok but it did it on SuSE 10.0 from the first time and on ubuntu flash comes on with an error to reinstall very strange isin't it
[04:27] <n2diy_> constrictor: ok, it is easier to play with, when you have it. :)
[04:27] <patientfox> hello... im trying to do apt-get install libapache2-mod-mono and i get this error from apt:
[04:27] <cherva> i copyed all the files (as one tutorial sad) and inported the reg file from win and bam "please reinstall flash"
[04:27] <patientfox> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:28] <patientfox>   libapache2-mod-mono: Depends: mono-apache-server (< 1.1.14) but it is not going to be installed or
[04:28] <patientfox>                                 mono-apache-server2 (< 1.1.14) but 1.1.17.1-2 is to be installed
[04:28] <patientfox> how do i fix this so i can do the install ... ?
[04:28] <patientfox> any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks
[04:28] <pl_ice> g'night ;)
[04:28] <n2diy_> constrictor: hope it works out ok. :)
[04:28] <jpjacobs> !past>patientfox
[04:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about past - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:28] <constrictor> n2diy_: yeah, does it come in a deb. because all i can find is tar.bz
[04:28] <jpjacobs> !paste>patientfox
[04:28] <shockent> Hi, I'm having problems with my onboard sound -- I've checked all my volume levels yet I still get no sound -- anyone able to help?
[04:29] <n2diy_> constrictor: do you have X working, if so, it doesn't matter what we get.
[04:29] <constrictor> ok nice
[04:29] <constrictor> i have the tar ball
[04:30] <constrictor> n2diy_: i'll just unzip it into /opt
[04:30] <patientfox> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/833/
[04:30] <n2diy_> constrictor: move it to /opt, and then unzip it, or unarchive it.
[04:30] <constrictor> will do sir
[04:30] <patientfox> once again, any help fixing this broken package thing would be very appreciated. thank you
[04:30] <constrictor> one sec
[04:31] <n2diy_> constrictor: how do you plan to do it?
[04:31] <jpjacobs> patientfox, have you got all the needed repo's? and have you recently updated your package-lists?
[04:31] <sleepersix> I'm trying to install linux, but my computer won't boot from the CD
[04:31] <constrictor> i have this nifty little nautilus script call "root-nautilus-here"
[04:32] <constrictor> will move that and unzip as root
[04:32] <jpjacobs> sleepersix, have you made the cddrive the first bootdevice in the bios?
[04:32] <sleepersix> I downloaded the CDs and burnt them
[04:32] <sleepersix> yes
[04:32] <vleon> tv-out, anyone please
[04:32] <pike_> sleepersix: try the alternate install cd. or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation  there are many ways to install
[04:32] <sleepersix> I just choose data disc to burn
[04:32] <constrictor> n2diy_: do i need to change perms on the sunbird folder?
[04:33] <sleepersix> do I need to make them bootable?
[04:33] <jpjacobs> have you verified your download with the md5sum?
[04:33] <n2diy_> constrictor: it should be good to go out of the box.
[04:33] <sleepersix> no
[04:33] <constrictor> it's already executable
[04:33] <constrictor> i'm set
[04:33] <constrictor> terminal time
[04:33] <rabe> what do you use to burn cd
[04:33] <Falstius> sleepersix: is your computer configured to boot from CDs?
[04:33] <patientfox> jpjacobs: i should only need universe to get it to work
[04:33] <sleepersix> nero express
[04:33] <jpjacobs> you have to burn it as an image, not as a datadisk.
[04:33] <sleepersix> yes
[04:33] <patientfox> which i have
[04:33] <rabe> lol
[04:34] <pike_> sleepersix: not trying to insult you but you did select burn image not just data cd or something right?
[04:34] <rabe> im talking about burning in xubuntu
[04:34] <constrictor> n2diy_: ok one little glitch do i need to do a sym link into syspath?
[04:34] <sleepersix> I didn't download the iso, just a folder with all the files
[04:34] <n2diy_> constrictor: ??? Why do you ask that?
[04:35] <sleepersix> actually it's openSUSE, but this channel is more helpful
[04:35] <constrictor> n2diy_: because straight running sunbird does not run sunbird
[04:35] <n2diy_> constrictor: ok, do you have a /sunbird directory?
[04:35] <godzilla8nj2day> do any of the 960 people in this room know anything about persistence with the livecd? i want to save profile info to a network drive instead of usb stick and am looking for a word or two of wisdom.
[04:35] <constrictor> yep
[04:36] <jpjacobs> sleepersix, hehe sneaky... well if you want to boot a livecd and install from it, you'll need the iso.
[04:36] <constrictor> checking for perms on that too
[04:36] <jpjacobs> godzilla8nj2day, i know grml has an option that does the trick. maybe ask over at #grml?
[04:36] <n2diy_> constrictor: WTF!? I installed Sunbird last week, and that is where it ended up too! I though I screwed up, but it did it to you too.
[04:37] <godzilla8nj2day> thx jp
[04:37] <jpjacobs> np
[04:37] <n2diy_> constrictor: But it is still usable, cd to /sunbird, and type sunbird.
[04:37] <rabe> is xfburn ok to use ?
[04:37] <constrictor> oh i think i know
[04:37] <rabe> can i burn iso wiht it
[04:38] <constrictor> do i need to change perms for the folder as i untared as root
[04:38] <constrictor> normal user might not have perms to execute
[04:38] <YoManWazap> rabe gnome-baker
[04:38] <sleepersix> I downloaded a zip file for each CD from http://en.opensuse.org/Released_Version ...
[04:38] <rabe> YoManWazap: thx
[04:38] <n2diy_> constrictor: negative, your perms are ok, cd /sunbird.
[04:38] <sleepersix> what are those for?
[04:39] <avaloncio> hi
[04:39] <avaloncio> real IP is shown herE?
[04:39] <constrictor> d2niy_: so would that mean that everytime i need to run sunbird i must cd to it's directory
[04:39] <riaal> whats the name of that heavy wierless network program?
[04:39] <constrictor> n2diy_: i am in sunbird
[04:40] <n2diy_> constrictor: did you cd /sunbird?
[04:40] <Ubuntuguy> All -- looking for help with ipod.  under dapper and edgy it doesn't automount.  How can I enable automount?
[04:40] <n2diy_> constrictor: congrats!
[04:40] <constrictor> yep
[04:40] <constrictor> file owner is root
[04:40] <constrictor> group is root
[04:40] <jpjacobs> Ubuntuguy, i think there is some thing like that in the menu>prefs>removable media.
[04:41] <rabe> is gnome-baker a synaptic packet
[04:41] <jpjacobs> yes
[04:41] <Ubuntuguy> jpjacobs: yeah, got that.  funny thing is my thumb drive DOES automount but not my iPod
[04:42] <riaal> what program to use to check for wierless networks?
[04:42] <jpjacobs> Ubuntuguy, does the thing even get detected when you plug it in (see output of dmesg|tail just after plugging in)
[04:42] <riaal> I used some really heavy program for it back in the days but I dont remember its name.. starting om K i think
[04:42] <vleon> can someone, anyone help me with tv-out? itryed to update xorg.conf with no results and used nvtv, but the display n te tv can only be on 800X600 resolution, and the screen is poorly adjust
[04:42] <jpjacobs> riaal wavemon?
[04:42] <constrictor> n2diy_: it works but i still think i want to do a symlink to /usr/share/local
[04:43] <n2diy_> constrictor: Why?
[04:43] <Kyynara_> I have edgy eft installed, and somehow ubuntu uses the 1.5.0.2 version of firefox, but when I check from synaptic I see that 2.0 is installed. Any ideas?
[04:43] <Ubuntuguy> jpjacobs: oh yeah and I can manually mount it OK,  I just want it to automount (lazy, I guess)
[04:43] <constrictor> that way i don't have to cd to sunbird
[04:43] <ikonia> Kyynara_ did you install firefox via a tar download
[04:43] <constrictor> all i need to do is to type in sunbird at terminal anywhere
[04:43] <n2diy_> constrictor: Cool, I should do the same thing!
[04:44] <Kyynara_> ikonia: maybe it was so long ago, can't remember, how would I check?
[04:44] <constrictor> sorry it's /usr/bin
[04:44] <sleeperCrashed> sorry, this dumb computer crashed
[04:44] <constrictor> /usr/bin/local
[04:44] <sleeperCrashed> I don't know how to log my other aliases out
[04:44] <rabe> i cant install gnome-baker
[04:44] <sleeperCrashed> this comp crashes every 10 minutes
[04:45] <n2diy_> constrictor: what is the link command?
[04:45] <sleeperCrashed> so I downloaded the zip files from http://en.opensuse.org/Released_Version
[04:45] <sleeperCrashed> but they aren't isos
[04:45] <constrictor> the path is actually /usr/local/bin so the command should be
[04:45] <jpjacobs> Ubuntuguy, i guess that requires some udev/hal magic. but i don't really know how.
[04:45] <constrictor> sudo ln -s /opt/sunbird/sunbird /usr/local/bin
[04:46] <constrictor> that works
[04:46] <Ubuntuguy> jpjacobs: that's what I'm lookng for.
[04:47] <constrictor> sudo ln -s /opt/sunbird/sunbird /usr/local/bin/sunbird
[04:47] <vleon> !tv-out
[04:47] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out on certain NVidia cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition
[04:47] <Lost_Soul> please i need help, from BitchX
[04:47] <Lost_Soul> PLEASE
[04:47] <Lost_Soul> :(
[04:47] <ikonia> whats up
[04:48] <FunnyLookinHat> Lost_Soul, just ask your question and if someone can answer they will
[04:48] <oxl> !tv-out
[04:48] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out on certain NVidia cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition
[04:48] <constrictor> let me know how it goes n2diy_
[04:48] <Lost_Soul> i like file " .bitchxrc  "
[04:48] <Lost_Soul> i like file " .bitchxrc  "  , for configuration my BItchX
[04:48] <ikonia> we all like that file, it rules
[04:49] <n2diy_> constrictor: ok I just created the link, and I'm getting ready to test it now.
[04:49] <Batman> hallo
[04:49] <Lost_Soul> configuration server irc, password nick, xmms , etc
[04:49] <Lost_Soul> please
[04:49] <Lost_Soul> :(
[04:49] <ikonia> yeah - its a grat file Lost_Soul
[04:49] <Lost_Soul> ikonia,
[04:49] <ikonia> yes
[04:49] <Lost_Soul> have you this file
[04:49] <ikonia> yes,
[04:49] <Lost_Soul> send me please?
[04:49] <ikonia> no
[04:49] <Lost_Soul> :(
[04:49] <ikonia> they are my settings
[04:50] <FunnyLookinHat> Lost_Soul, google for a tutorial on configuring BitchX through that file....
[04:50] <Lost_Soul> :(
[04:50] <brainiac> is there a prefered motherboard for core2duo on ubuntu? plz tell me :)
[04:50] <Lost_Soul> ikonia, you are bad
[04:50] <ikonia> Lost_Soul https://www.bitchx.com - the docs tell you how ot put it together and all the options you can have
[04:50] <Lost_Soul> :(
[04:50] <MiS> I've discovered a weird thing on my system that I've never seen.  I wonder if it hasn't been compromised.  A number of what used to be *directories* are now symlinks to some scitps in /etc/init.d
[04:50] <ikonia> I'm bad ?
[04:50] <Lost_Soul> yes
[04:50] <Lost_Soul> too bad
[04:50] <FunnyLookinHat> brainiac, nope
[04:50] <ikonia> errrrr ok
[04:50] <brainiac> hrhr
[04:50] <pike_> ikonia: not exactly the open source spirit man ;p
[04:50] <MiS> anyone seen such thing?
[04:50] <Lost_Soul> i like help person
[04:51] <Lost_Soul> you no
[04:51] <ikonia> pike_ yeah - shame on me for not sending all my personal config details
[04:51] <Lost_Soul> :(
[04:51] <Gothfunc> the mousepad/nipple has just stopped on my laptop.  can i restart the mouse drivers or something?  any idea how?
[04:51] <n2diy_> constrictor: nope, didn't work.
[04:51] <kenthomson> !repos > kenthomson
[04:51] <brainiac> i want to buy one which is supported best for linux
[04:51] <constrictor> wrong path then
[04:51] <ikonia> Lost_Soul http://www.bitchx.com - its got a docs section that tells you have to configure the file with all the options you may or may not want
[04:51] <constrictor> do you have that nautilus script i was talking about?
[04:51] <brainiac> or is there a site where you can find ubuntu supported hardware
[04:51] <FunnyLookinHat> brainiac, they're all fairly generic...
[04:51] <jpjacobs> !laptop
[04:51] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[04:51] <ikonia> brainiac check the HCL
[04:51] <ikonia> !HCL brainiac
[04:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about HCL brainiac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <brainiac> thx
[04:52] <ikonia> !HCL |brainiac
[04:52] <ubotu> brainiac: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[04:52] <vleon> can someone, anyone help me with tv-out? itryed to update xorg.conf with no results and used nvtv, but the display n te tv can only be on 800X600 resolution, and the screen is poorly adjust
[04:52] <n2diy_> constrictor: no I don't, and I don't want to troubleshoot it now, it isn't a big hassle to cd /sunbird to run it.
[04:52] <ikonia> vleon someone keeps sendin you a URL with help tips
[04:52] <constrictor> ok
[04:52] <ikonia> I've seen it popup twince scein I've been in here
[04:52] <brainiac> hmm the list looks quite old
[04:52] <constrictor> ignorance IS bliss :P
[04:53] <n2diy_> constrictor: so is sleep!
[04:53] <constrictor> LOL
[04:53] <vleon> ohh i didnt notice :)
[04:53] <riaal> how do I see what Ip dns etc. I have?
[04:54] <ikonia> riaal ipconfig
[04:54] <riaal> thanks
[04:54] <ikonia> oir the network manage under gnome
[04:54] <n2diy_> ifconfig
[04:54] <ikonia> or
[04:55] <vleon> what this url?: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition
[04:55] <riaal> "ipconfig -not found" =S
[04:55] <n2diy_> ifconfig
[04:55] <lupine_85> use ifconfig instead
[04:55] <Riyonuk> Once I removed network-manager-gnome, wireless worked...why?
[04:55] <lupine_85> or for extra internets, use ip
[04:55] <ikonia> sotty - my typo
[04:55] <riaal> lol, im DOS injured =P
[04:55] <ikonia> sorry
[04:56] <ikonia> mt fault
[04:56] <ikonia> my fault
[04:57] <lexx> Hello, can anyone help me I have a ubuntu installation problem...
[04:57] <Gothfunc> the mousepad/nipple has just stopped on my laptop.  i'd like to reset the mouse without restarting X.  any idea how that can be done?
[04:58] <Riyonuk> Firefox isnt working, it wont let me go to any pages, it says Connecting, and then nothing happens
[04:58] <mayday_> siemano
[04:59] <ikonia> Riyonuk is your network connected
[04:59] <ikonia> can you ping anything
[04:59] <Riyonuk> -_-
[04:59] <ikonia> can you do an nslookup or dig
[04:59] <Riyonuk> Yes Im connected
[04:59] <Riyonuk> Im currently downloading
[04:59] <Riyonuk> whats nslookup/dig?
[04:59] <ikonia> firewall ?
[04:59] <mena> Wht thy didnt support ubuntu with apss such as kopote messanger
[04:59] <Riyonuk> No firewall
[04:59] <Riyonuk> Installed yesterday
[05:00] <ikonia> in a command prompt type "nslookup www.google.com"
[05:00] <ikonia> see what you get
[05:00] <rabe> fucking xfburn doesent worl
[05:00] <rabe> work :)
[05:00] <Riyonuk> ikonia, I got Name:   www.l.google.com
[05:00] <Riyonuk> Address: 216.239.37.104
[05:00] <Riyonuk> Name:   www.l.google.com
[05:00] <Riyonuk> Address: 216.239.37.99
[05:00] <rabe> i need to burn an image
[05:00] <Riyonuk> rabe, no cursing please :p
[05:00] <rabe> ;)
[05:00] <lexx> :( Ubuntu hates my computer... :(
[05:01] <ikonia> Riyonuk akk kiijs giid
[05:01] <Riyonuk> So does mine
[05:01] <ikonia> all looks good
[05:01] <Riyonuk> :o
[05:01] <Riyonuk> oh
[05:01] <math_> hello, I've got a canon ip2200 printer, but there's only the ip4000 in de list of drivers, shall i use this driver?
[05:01] <ikonia> math_ cannon drivers suck - not great for linux support
[05:01] <math_> :X
[05:01] <Vigo> Ratso
[05:01] <Riyonuk> Ill try again
[05:01] <Vigo> Hiya
[05:01] <math_> ikonia, ok?
[05:01] <rabe> Ri.yonuk: yes but xfbrun does not start to burn, do you know how i can burn an image
[05:02] <Riyonuk> pssh
[05:02] <Riyonuk> now it works
[05:02] <jrib> math_: yes, try it.  You can usually use a similar driver
[05:02] <ikonia> Riyonuk probably just getting dhcp/info
[05:02] <Riyonuk> rabe, I just use CD/DVD Creator, the default
[05:02] <Riyonuk> ikonia, so what was the problem?
[05:02] <lexx> Does anyone know why ubuntu crashes on installation on a compaq presario AMD64? It crashes when saying "moutning root file system"
[05:02] <math_> jrib, ok thnx :)
[05:03] <Vigo> If I put windows on Drive (x) wich I did, can I just burn another ISO and install or use the GRUB to repair a previous install?
[05:03] <pike_> math_: do a google search like "site:linuxprinting.org ip2200" for more info
[05:04] <lexx> Anyone?
[05:05] <Lost_Soul> please
[05:05] <Vigo> Apologies Lexx: did not see your Q?
[05:05] <Lost_Soul> where is the file .bitchxrc , i don t found
[05:05] <Lost_Soul> :S
[05:06] <Riyonuk> lexx, that did it for me, I have a compaq, I just restarted. It seems when making a ext3 it does, but not a resierfs
[05:06] <lexx> Vigo: Yeah, it just wont install, I have tried lots of different versions and made lots of CD's even tried v4.10 official CD and it still crashes on install
[05:06] <Lost_Soul> where is the file .bitchxrc , i don t found ???
[05:06] <riaal> how do I see what rel i have, like breezy, badger
[05:06] <jrib> Lost_Soul: it's ~/.BitchX/  for the directory.  But you have to run bitchx at least once as your user
[05:06] <ikonia> Lost_Soul I've told you and sent you a URL
[05:06] <lexx> Riyonuk: SO I should just leave it alone for a long time and see if it works?
[05:07] <Lost_Soul> 1 min
[05:07] <Vigo> lexx: I have too pooch it and scram the data? or will any backups I made load in after the scram?
[05:07] <ikonia> Lost_Soul http://www.bitchx.com - look in the docs part it gives you a list of all the options you can have and you can customise the setup
[05:07] <Riyonuk> lexx, yup, it seems my pc was very hot, I left it off overnight, next morninng it worked...but thats just for me
[05:07] <slammer> please help, i can't stream files over samba?
[05:07] <pike_> riaal: like cat /etc/*release is one way
[05:07] <andre> how do i get rid of all the in and out messages
[05:07] <Lost_Soul> BitchX.away  BitchX.formats  BitchX.sav     only 3 files
[05:07] <Lost_Soul> :S
[05:08] <jrib> Lost_Soul: yeah ikonia is right, you just create the file you mentioned.  The directory is for soemthing else
[05:08] <Riyonuk> What other 3rd party repos are there besides automatix and easyubuntu?
[05:08] <ikonia> Lost_Soul http://www.bitchx.com - look in the docs part it gives you a list of all the options you can have and you can customise the setup
[05:08] <pike_> riaal: of course 'like' is not part of the command ;p
[05:08] <n2diy_> Riyonuk: debian.org
[05:08] <lexx> Riyonuk: Hmmmn, I think that it completely dies as the keyboard is completely unresponsive during install
[05:08] <riaal> pike_, thanks. whats the latest?
[05:08] <Riyonuk> lexx, is it plugged in :p
[05:09] <Riyonuk> n2diy_, you come out of nowhere XD, any more? Trying to get as many as possible
[05:09] <lexx> Riyonuk: LOL, yeah. It just wasnt having any of it.
[05:09] <Vigo> Riyonuk: What are trying? and did you xorg it?
[05:09] <jrib> Riyonuk: don't use debian repos
[05:09] <Lost_Soul> 1 friend say me , .bitchxrc is create , no file found
[05:09] <Riyonuk> Ahh
[05:09] <Riyonuk> OMG
[05:09] <ikonia> Lost_Soul http://www.bitchx.com - look in the docs part it gives you a list of all the options you can have and you can customise the setup
[05:09] <Riyonuk> to many people, Im trying to get more software :p
[05:09] <pike_> riaal: latest stable is edgy. but dapper is the long term support version. so both a kept updated
[05:09] <Riyonuk> I like trying new things
[05:10] <jrib> !easysource | Riyonuk
[05:10] <ubotu> Riyonuk: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:10] <n2diy_> Riyonuk: :)  If you can't find .debs, at debian. org, where are you going to find them?
[05:10] <jrib> Riyonuk: I'd advise against just addign random repositories
[05:10] <Lost_Soul> ikonia, bitchx.com , no have configuration , its very basic
[05:10] <ikonia> Lost_Soul http://www.bitchx.com - look in the docs part it gives you a list of all the options you can have and you can customise the setup
[05:10] <Riyonuk> why?
[05:10] <Riyonuk> Well just sources from good sources
[05:10] <ikonia> in the docs section - it tells you how to build the file
[05:11] <Vigo> I  resolved that driver issue, the Xpress 200 ATI with the xorg it worked great and no yucky installs
[05:11] <lexx> Is there any reason why the installation process should crash on the compaq Presario? Its just odd.
[05:11] <riaal> pike_: where can I read about how to get drapper for example
[05:11] <n2diy_> Riyonuk: :)  .deb, is a debian package, no? debian.org is there home page.
[05:12] <kenthomson> HELP: Whenever i download any .zip or any .tar.gz from the internet for installing software, it downloads just fine on my desktop, but when i click it on the desktop with my mouse, it changes its icon to represent a html document, and than it behaves as a html document (the whole archive!!!) so than i can't unzip it or do whatever. What is happening? I am on UBUNTU 6.10
[05:12] <jbroome> OMG
[05:12] <Riyonuk> n2diy_, yes I know, I hate installing from source or deb, apt is way better for me, just point and click :D
[05:12] <Vigo> lexx: It work, ermm worked on the HP I am useing, HP is sorta Comaq,,,
[05:12] <pike_> riaal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation is one place they are all available at ubuntu.com
[05:13] <lexx> Vigo: Its odd as I have tried different CD's and used them in different CD drives and all installations just crash
[05:13] <n2diy_> Riyonuk: :)  Roger on that, .debs are easy to play with, source is, well, source.
[05:13] <Riyonuk> Alrighty, next to my "Dumb questions Riyo asks", :p
[05:14] <karakara> is there any way to clean up swap?
[05:14] <seanj> I wonder if swapoff would clear it out
[05:14] <Riyonuk> GAIM never seems to work for me, I always get like a switchboard error or something, is there an alternative to gaim or a way to fix this? Maybe an update to gaim? I wouldnt know how to do that
[05:14] <lexx> I guess I will be cursed with having to use VMware all the time to run Ubuntu! :@
[05:15] <n2diy_> karakara: why do you want to mess with swap?
[05:15] <pike_> lexx: try the alternate install cd also both 6.02 and 6.10
[05:15] <karakara> i cant hibernate due to not enough swap
[05:15] <jdkycdoc> do you know if email clients download attachments several times when you forward messages with them? (e.g. working with gmail)
[05:15] <ikonia> karakara give it more swap
[05:15] <pike_> lexx: er 6.06
[05:15] <lexx> pike_: Thanks, I will download 6.06 alternate. What is the difference?
[05:16] <n2diy_> karakara: so, your swap file isn't big enough.
[05:16] <Tony_> hi, i really messed up when upgrading to Edgy(i think), because now GRUB won't start.. Any suggestions?
[05:16] <karakara> apparently so, i dont know how to fix it
[05:16] <pike_> lexx: still on 6.06 myself not too familiar with edgy changes. youre not getting any errors?
[05:16] <ikonia> Tony_ how can not even know what OS your installing
[05:16] <ikonia> karakara create a bigger swap partition
[05:16] <lexx> pike_: No errors, just complete crash. Shall I get the alternate amd64?
[05:17] <Vigo> lexx: That is what I did once, the Alternate Install and the i386 both worked in testing but the one did not function after certain repos were added. I am still working on that,,,,,
[05:17] <chaosklica1_> Hello everyone!!!!!
[05:17] <n2diy_> karakara: There are no easy options.
[05:17] <chaosklica1_> :)
[05:17] <Tony_> pike_: Ubuntu...?
[05:18] <ikonia> Tony_ I mean how can you not know what OS release your updating to
[05:18] <ikonia> thats pretty basic thing to know before doing an update
[05:18] <lexx> Vigo & pike_: It all crashes when saying its mounting the root file system. Also I think there may have been an error message before that saying something about resources. it moved too quickly.
[05:18] <riaal> pike_: I have done this breezy to drapper update before and remember it was really easy but I have forgot how I did it. And can't find it on ubuntu.com.. You have a direct link? (sorry)
[05:19] <karakara> can i add a partition to swap or change it?
[05:19] <pike_> lexx: id try 6.10 or even 7.04 though its alpha.
[05:19] <Tony_> Yeah.. The (Ithink) was basicly my bad english,it was supposed to mean I think i messed up...
[05:19] <ubuntu__> HI
[05:19] <Mattwj2005> hi guys
[05:19] <ikonia> Tony_ so whats the problem
[05:20] <lexx> pike_: am trying to download 6.06, that is dapper isnt it? I have wasted loads of CD's today a couple more wont do that much harm.
[05:20] <Mattwj2005> I am using Ubuntu in VMware in Windows XP :)
[05:20] <Tony_> ikonia: The problem is my GRUB is gone, i get "NTLDR is missing"...
[05:20] <peace-keeper> is there a free version of vmware?
[05:20] <lexx> peace-keeper: Yes vmware server is free
[05:20] <ikonia> Tony_ thats nothing to do with your upgrade. NTLDR is when the windows bootloader trys to run
[05:20] <Mattwj2005> yes the player is free
[05:20] <Vigo> lexx: Have you set the BIOS to accept it yet?
[05:21] <ikonia> Tony_ do you have windows on your machine ?
[05:21] <lexx> Vigo: How do you mean, it is setup to boot from CD
[05:21] <Mattwj2005> yes
[05:21] <ikonia> Mattwj2005 who are you having a conversation with ?
[05:21] <ikonia> ahh peacekeeper
[05:21] <Mattwj2005> I was talking to peace-keeper
[05:21] <ikonia> yeah I couldn't see his name for some reason
[05:21] <Tony_> ikonia: it probably tries to run because GRUB is gone, i had dual boot.. anyway i tried to reinstall grub with the arch-base-install.iso, but it said it couldn't install GRUB because.. GRUB was missing..:s
[05:21] <ikonia> then the screen scrolled and I could
[05:22] <riaal> lol, what "program" is use to update from breezy to drapper? Done it before but don't really remember
[05:22] <ikonia> Tony_ what the heck is arch-base-install.iso ???
[05:22] <ikonia> Tony_ just boot of any ubuntu CD  and re-install grub to the boot sector
[05:22] <karakara> how can i change what partition is used for swap?
[05:22] <pike_> riaal: well from gui id do: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list then find and replace all instances of dapper with edgy then save  then 'sudo apt-get update' then 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' is the manual way
[05:22] <Mattwj2005> peace-keeper.....if you download the player you'll need to make an image......here is a website that'll do that for you
[05:22] <ikonia> karakara etc/fstab
[05:22] <Mattwj2005> http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml
[05:22] <Tony_> ikonia: it's an arch linux disc, wich has the option of just installing GRUB.. Apparently it didn't eork that well
[05:23] <n2diy_> karakara: you can't
[05:23] <jpjacobs> karakara, change it in /etc/fstaab
[05:23] <ikonia> Tony_ just install it from the ubuntu cd
[05:23] <riaal> pike_: there is some graphic way?
[05:23] <ikonia> n2diy_ sure he can
[05:23] <raul> can some one help me?
[05:23] <ikonia> n2diy_ just change it in /etc/fstab
[05:23] <jpjacobs> karakara, that is if you've set up the swappartition on another partition.
[05:23] <gar-> hi how i can install freetype support for php in ubuntu thanks...
[05:23] <ikonia> raul you have to ask a question before we know if we can help
[05:23] <n2diy_> ikonia: go for it!
[05:23] <Vigo> lexx: On mine I had to go into BIOS to set up a dual boot, set Ubuntu as HD1 and Win as HD0 (default) then switched em around for testing. All are different , but that is just how I had to set mine. once
[05:24] <ikonia> n2diy_ have you had problems with it this way ?
[05:24] <ikonia> n2diy_ its always worked for me ?
[05:24] <raul> i dont know how to install windows progams on ubuntu
[05:24] <Tony_> ikonia: how do i install it from the ubuntu cd then?
[05:24] <ikonia> raul you can't
[05:24] <lexx> Vigo: Oh, right when this CD is downloaded and burnt I will check in the BIOS, but I am sure I have never seen, that in there.
[05:24] <raul> so what can i do
[05:24] <pike_> riaal: yes but im stuck on a bsd right now and cant remember gui app name
[05:24] <ikonia> Tony_ just boot from the CD - type in "grub" as root and issue the grub commands to put it back on the boot sector
[05:24] <n2diy_> ikonia: no, no problems, but he is running out of swap, and needs to expand it.
[05:24] <riaal> pike_: okey, thanks for the help
[05:25] <ikonia> raul use an emmulator - or don't use windows programs
[05:25] <lexx> Vigo: I dont think it even gets as far as the installer, it crashes before it loads that
[05:25] <minimec> raul: well you can installing the software wine, but ... What windows software do you want to install?
[05:25] <raul> where can i find am emulator
[05:25] <ikonia> n2diy_ he's not using LVM so he'll need to create a new partition and swap the entry in fstab
[05:25] <pike_> riaal: if you remeber the name all you do is "application -c"  i believe
[05:25] <ikonia> !wine |raul
[05:25] <ubotu> raul: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:25] <Mattwj2005> vmware works pretty good
[05:25] <raul> ok ill try
[05:25] <Mattwj2005> but you'll have to do a full Windows install
[05:25] <jdkycdoc> hi, i'm wondering if email clients are clever enough not to download several times the attachments on forwarded emails (e.g. working with gmail)
[05:26] <n2diy_> ikonia: this is over my head, that is why I told you, you could go for it. ;)
[05:26] <ikonia> n2diy_ ahh right
[05:26] <riaal> Please, what appt is used to update from breezy to drapper??
[05:26] <ikonia> riaal doen't use apt
[05:26] <riaal> pike_: ok thanks
[05:26] <ikonia> don't
[05:26] <Vigo> lexx: Sure sounds like a boot volume issue if it scrams that fast. Do you ever see the Splash Screen or does it snag in  initial boot mode?
[05:27] <DeCaelo> Why can't they use Apt? Is it easier to just use Synaptic?
[05:27] <jpjacobs> riaal, first change your sources.list to have dapper's instead of breezy's. then do apt-get update, then apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:27] <DeCaelo> (just curious)
[05:27] <LumaQQ> hi
[05:27] <ikonia> DeCaelo other ubuntu version updates have suggested better methods than apt-get
[05:27] <pike_> riaal:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[05:27] <karakara> ok.. my swap is listed in fstab but its listed as a UUID x_x
[05:27] <lexx> Vigo: Yeah I see the splash screen and it says [OK]  to the first thing and then never does for the "mounting root file system" one
[05:27] <ikonia> DeCaelo I've read but not experienced issues using apt for distro upgrades
[05:27] <style> hello. is there a way to get a newer kernel version then 2.6.17-10 form a repo?
[05:27] <karakara> how can i find out the UUID of a partition?
[05:27] <ikonia> karakara so you need to get the blockid of your new partition
[05:28] <ikonia> blkid
[05:28] <pike_> riaal: ah breezy well https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[05:28] <DeCaelo> Oh cool, I wasn't aware that there were issues with apt.. it's what I've used all the time and it's never caused me any problems.
[05:28] <Tony_> ikonia: ok, so now what?:P i'm in the grub> thingy
[05:28] <ikonia> DeCaelo they are listed in the urls that pike_ is showing
[05:28] <lexx> Vigo: when I tried the i386 one, the splash screen appears and the progress bar thing keeps going back and forth but nothing happens other than that.
[05:28] <ikonia> Tony_ use the appropriate root and setup options to install grub
[05:30] <riaal> pike_: thanks alot
[05:30] <pike_> riaal: np
[05:31] <ikonia> pike_ great URL quotes
[05:31] <ikonia> oooh a cambridge uni person
[05:31] <karakara> ok.. done, now i just run mount -a right?
[05:31] <ikonia> karakara no as you don't mount swap
[05:31] <ikonia> I don't think mount -a will pick up swap
[05:32] <fleischwurst> theres a long hair on the left of my right nipple :o
[05:32] <fleischwurst> holy shit
[05:32] <ikonia> !language | fleischwurst
[05:32] <ubotu> fleischwurst: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:32] <kcinna> !dhcp
[05:32] <ubotu> dhcp: DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0pl5-19.4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 108 kB, installed size 308 kB
[05:32] <karakara> sooo how can i check if the swap space is being used?
[05:32] <ikonia> swapon -s
[05:33] <lexx> Vigo: Now burning the alternate amd64 6.
[05:33] <lexx> Vigo: Now burning the alternate amd64 6.06 iso
[05:33] <vleon> u have a strange problem, every time i use gedt i get this massage in the terminal : (gedit:7415): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
[05:33] <vleon>         Using the fallback 'C' locale.
[05:33] <vleon> (gedit:7415): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
[05:33] <vleon> vleon@Old-Machine:~$ sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:33] <vleon> (gedit:7465): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
[05:33] <vleon>         Using the fallback 'C' locale.
[05:33] <vleon> (gedit:7465): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
[05:34] <fleischwurst> !ops vleon
[05:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ops vleon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <ikonia> thanks for the flood
[05:34] <fleischwurst> !ops
[05:34] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[05:34] <jpjacobs> karakara, to use a new swappartition, use sudo swapon <partition> (and before that, if you haven't don that, do sudo mkswap <partition>)
[05:34] <crimson> i was playing around with my software sources, and it has messed up my repositories so I can't see any packages in my installer, anyone know what to do?
 Sorry, I don't know anything about ops vleon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <karakara> cool ty all
[05:34] <mena> HI FRIENDS MY story that i try to reformate on of my partitions to ntfs and then i can acsses it bec it doesnt apper and it didnt mount after alot of effrots with someone i didt have the appilty to see my pation after that i refromat it to ext3 and now its also doesnt appear
[05:34] <ikonia> crimson don't know what you've done - so its hard to tell
[05:34] <jpjacobs> karakara, and if you look at free before you enable it, and after, you will see the increase
[05:35] <ikonia> mena why did you try to do that
[05:35] <karakara> yah i figured the  mkswap bit ^_^
[05:35] <vmfight> ciao a tutti
[05:35] <jussi01> hei, can someone tell me how to find out my systems architecture? (i586/i686/pentium 3...etc) I have a pentium m 1.6...
[05:35] <ikonia> jussi01 its a 686
[05:35] <karakara> yup the new swap is showing :D
[05:35] <mena> ikonia, bec i was in need of the ntfs to make it work on xp
[05:35] <jussi01> ikonia: thanks
[05:35] <karakara> so its hibernate time!
[05:35] <ikonia> mena did you format the partition with NTFS from linux or windows ?
[05:35] <crimson> ikonia: i initially just made source code an option for my packages, and then i got that problem, but now I have all the settings back to default and i am still in the same boat
[05:36] <karakara> tnx again all
[05:36] <ikonia> crimson doesn't sound like thats the only change you made
[05:36] <mena> ikonia, linux ubuntu bec i dont have xp but i don it to enable my friend to acces my partion
[05:36] <crimson> ikonia but i know it is
[05:36] <minimec> jumbers: I think pentium m is 'centrino... so i686.
[05:36] <ikonia> crimson things don't just break on their own
[05:36] <ikonia> I'm not saying thats a bad thing
[05:37] <ikonia> but think about what else you've done
[05:37] <Vigo> lemee test this, wish me luck!
[05:37] <madmax> Hi... I am new in Ubuntu... Can any one tell how can I find out the root password... it never ask me... I just create a user and a password for it... but I never typed any password for the root
[05:37] <lexx> Vigo: Good luck
[05:37] <ikonia> madmax you need to read the basics on ubuntu
[05:37] <ikonia> madmax http://www.ubuntu.com
[05:37] <madmax> I search there... but I didn't find it
[05:37] <crimson> ikonia you don't understand what i am saying - i know what i did, and i have reversed it. if you don't know what the problem is, don't try and tell me what i've done
[05:37] <ikonia> madmax look in the docs
[05:37] <kcinna> i can't seem to get dhcp towork properly
[05:38] <madmax> thanks
[05:38] <kcinna> the router doesn't list my IP address
[05:38] <pike_> !sudo | madmax
[05:38] <ubotu> madmax: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:38] <lexx> I guess if this ISO doesnt work on my PC then I will be condemned to use windows for the rest of my life... :(
[05:38] <mena> ikonia, no soultion
[05:38] <ikonia> crimson I'll rephrase that, adding the source directorys would not make your dpkg repo's vanish
[05:38] <ikonia> so, I'm asking you to think if there is anything else you've done
[05:38] <ikonia> as you rightly said putting it back hasn't fixed it so something else must be effecting it
[05:38] <crimson> ikonia they haven't vanished, they aren't being read
[05:38] <madmax> thanks ubotu
[05:39] <ikonia> crimson could you define not being read, eg: at what point
[05:39] <crimson> ikonia line 5 of the ocde
[05:39] <ikonia> what code ?
[05:39] <gnomefreak> crimson: did you try sudo rm /var/cache/apt/*.bin?
[05:39] <gnomefreak> crimson: if i read it right its your sources.list file
[05:39] <crimson> gnomefreak: no, i will. thanks for some actual insight
[05:40] <crimson> thanks
[05:40] <ikonia> crimson what code are you referencing from line 5 ?
[05:40] <ikonia> I think I've missed a bit of your post
[05:40] <crimson> ikonia: don't worry about it
[05:40] <ikonia> have you fixed it ?
[05:40] <crimson> no, but you aren't understanding me
[05:41] <ikonia> crimson you've added repo's but when you do an apt-get or apt-cache for example its not reading the repo's - is that not the problem ?
[05:41] <Wimpog> Guys, I have eth0 and eth1. I ONLY need DHCP to listen on eth1, and I ONLY have subnet declaration for eth1. Manually, I start dhcpd like this: "dhcpd eth1". However, when the server starts up, DHCP fails to start. The syslog says that there is no subnet declaration for eth0, but I DON"T need it to listen on eth0. Anybody knows how to start DHCP on system startup???
[05:41] <ikonia> Wimpog you'll have to edit the init script
[05:42] <ikonia> Wimpog I'll re-prhase that, its easier to edit the init sscript
[05:42] <Wimpog> ikonia: do you know what exactly to edit???
[05:42] <crimson> gnomefreak: that doesn'
[05:42] <crimson> gnomefreak: that doesn't seem to have an effect
[05:42] <gnomefreak> crimson: any errors?
[05:42] <ikonia> crimson could you explain the problem again so I don't miss any this time
[05:42] <ikonia> Wimpog there is a startup flag (something like -i eth0) you can pass it
[05:43] <Wimpog> ikonia: I'm not that knowledgable in DHCP, so if you know what to edit and where, I'll appreciate if you tell me
[05:43] <crimson> gnomefreak: yeah, just no response to that command
[05:43] <Wimpog> ikonia: is that script /etc/init.d/dhcp?
[05:43] <ikonia> Wimpog I don't know off the top of my head, but its something like -i eth0 on the dhcp daemon start up
[05:43] <ikonia> Wimpog spot on
[05:43] <fleischwurst> theres a long hair on the left of my right nipple :o
[05:43] <ikonia> Wimpog if you do a man on dhcp you may find the option, I just can't remember it
[05:43] <ikonia> fleischwurst we heard you the first time
[05:44] <PatitoFeo> hi
[05:44] <fleischwurst> you didnt give me advices
[05:44] <fleischwurst> :<
[05:44] <gnomefreak> crimson: it shouldnt respond. but after running that run update again see if it reads them
[05:44] <ikonia> fleischwurst get lost
[05:44] <Slart> Is there a way to burn a directory with more than 6 subdirectories to a DVD? some extension?
[05:44] <crimson> gnomefreak: okay
[05:44] <ikonia> gnomefreak thats what I wondered if he'd not done an apt-get update
[05:44] <Wimpog> ikonia: Ok, I'll take a look at it. I mean, when I start it manually: dhcpd eth1, it starts fine, BUT I want to have it started automatically everytime
[05:44] <Slart> I mean more than 6 levels deep
[05:44] <ikonia> after changin the rpo
[05:44] <gnomefreak> fleischwurst: join #ubuntu-offtopic for non support topics
[05:45] <crimson> gnomefreak: it fixed the line 5 error, now i just have a line 2 error
[05:45] <ikonia> crimson whats line 5 and 2 errors ?
[05:45] <Slart> !DVD
[05:45] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:45] <ikonia> where are you seeing that
[05:45] <gnomefreak> crimson: what is the error?
[05:45] <gnomefreak> crimson: is it failed to fetch?
[05:45] <Jaak_> One of my ubuntu desktops doesn't recognize any usb devices, and i think it doesn't see any cd/dvd's.... All the devices and cd's work on another ubu desktop. I don't understand what's wrong, everything else seems to work fine! Can anyone help me?
[05:45] <crimson> gnomefreak: it is a malformed line in source list
[05:45] <gnomefreak> crimson: is this edgy?
[05:45] <pike_> Wimpog: maybe im missing something but couldnt you just gksudo /etc/network/interfaces
[05:45] <crimson> gnomefreak yeah
[05:45] <gnomefreak> crimson: paste your sources.list file to pastebin
[05:45] <ikonia> crimson can you paste your source.list
[05:46] <P-Smurfy> god, the nvidia drivers are driving me nuts, i've done everything properly, tried editing by hand, but i get no 3d rendering, and when i grep for direct rendering i get this error: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:46] <pike_> Wimpog: er gksudo gedit
[05:46] <ikonia> gnomefreak your quicker
[05:46] <gnomefreak> crimson: you might just have an extra xhar in there
[05:46] <crimson> gnomefreak: whats that?
[05:46] <gnomefreak> ikonia: i deal with apt/synaptic/aptitude and dpkg all day long
[05:46] <Wimpog> ikonia: and then what??? BTW it's a server,so it doesn't have gedit
[05:46] <ikonia> gnomefreak join the club ;)
[05:46] <ikonia> Wimpog pardon ?
[05:47] <Tony_> My Ubuntu live cd can't find my ubuntu installation after i upgraded to edgy.. what to do?
[05:47] <Wimpog> ikonia: It doesn't have graphical interface
[05:47] <gnomefreak> crimson: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and paste the contents to pastebin.
[05:47] <ikonia> Wimpog ok and ?
[05:47] <gnomefreak> !paste | crimson
[05:47] <ubotu> crimson: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[05:47] <Wimpog> ikonia: so no gedit
[05:47] <ikonia> Wimpog use vi, or nano, or emacs
[05:47] <ikonia> Wimpog if you can't edit a file - you shouldn't be trying to run a server
[05:47] <kenthomson> gnomefreak, When i open synaptic, go to repositories and check mark all of the avilable ones 'on', does that mean that i have all the software that ubuntu officially hosts on its servers available? Or do i have to do anything mroe
[05:48] <gnomefreak> kenthomson: should
[05:48] <MDT> Hello, this is a relatively new (and unbelievably frustrated) linux user.  I'm using linuxMint (an ubuntu deriv) and I'm trying to print to a printer shared on a windows workgroup computer.  Linux can see the printer (it says it can anyway, and reports it ready), but when I try to print, it just hangs with a 'printing' message and never prints.  I've tried the Mint forums, I've tried #samba, I've tried #cups.  Can anyone help ple
[05:48] <Wimpog> ikonia: I can edit, and I"ve already edited that file
[05:48] <ikonia> Wimpog then why did you need to know the command to edit ?
[05:48] <kenthomson> gnomefreak, if yes, then when i search of 'opera' i don't get anything, whereas ubuntu hosts it, how do i download/see it?
[05:48] <gnomefreak> kenthomson: opera is not in any ubuntu repos
[05:48] <ikonia> MDT this is #ubuntu - ubuntu support - can't really support forks or branches
[05:48] <Wimpog> ikonia: I don't, I just don't know WHAT to edit
[05:48] <kenthomson> gnomefreak, i really think it is
[05:48] <gnomefreak> kenthomson: i have  a.deb for it if you want it
[05:48] <ikonia> MDT see if they have support
[05:49] <ikonia> Wimpog the startup script as I said earlier
[05:49] <mnoir> MDT: since it is not ubuntu, you may have challenges getting support here
[05:49] <kenthomson> gnomefreak, a .deb is available at their website, thanks for the offer, but i really know that ubuntu hosts it
[05:49] <gnomefreak> kenthomson: its non free. it was in the ubuntu-commerical repo but that was cancelled after dapper
[05:49] <Wimpog> ikonia: Ok I'll try that, editing the /etc/network/interfaces did not help
[05:49] <P-Smurfy> can anyone help me? the nvidia drivers are driving me nuts, i've done  everything properly, tried editing by hand, but i get no 3d  rendering, and when i grep for direct rendering i get this  error: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:49] <kenthomson> gnomefreak, ok
[05:49] <ikonia> Wimpog why are you doing that ?
[05:49] <gnomefreak> kenthomson: no they dont. ubuntu CANT
[05:49] <ikonia> Wimpog I said the startup script
[05:49] <jpjacobs> !nvidia
[05:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:49] <ikonia> Wimpog you add something like -i eth0
[05:49] <StraightShootinC>  Do any of you know of a way to disable the rightclick feature?
[05:49] <kenthomson> gnomefreak, is their some website where i can go and and search ubuntu's servers online?
[05:49] <Wimpog> ikonia: Ok, I'll try
[05:49] <StraightShootinC> its for my son's PC
[05:50] <Tony_> My Ubuntu live cd can't find my ubuntu installation after i upgraded to edgy.. what to do?*bump*:P
[05:50] <ikonia> Wimpog whats the point of asking for help to just do your own random thing
[05:50] <ikonia> Tony_ did you fix grub ?
[05:50] <MDT> This was my last attempt to get help.  Maybe I'll just go fork some $$$ to M$ then and install XP on the machine instead of Linux.  I'm really tired of trying to get this thing to work.
[05:50] <gnomefreak> kenthomson: you can go to packages.ubuntu.com and veiw all packages in a release
[05:50] <ikonia> MDT ok, go install XP
[05:50] <mnoir> MDT: go to irc.spotchat.org and join #linuxmint
[05:50] <Wimpog> ikonia: everybody ask for help here
[05:50] <ikonia> Wimpog yes, but you didn't do what I told you to fix it, you just did something random
[05:51] <StraightShootinC>   anyone?
[05:51] <kenthomson> gnomefreak, ok, thats helpful thank you, and take a look here http://www.ubuntu.com/news/opera9, or is this outdates? Anyways thank you
[05:51] <eXistenZ> Why the DOM Inspector cannot be found in ff2 edgy?
[05:51] <crimson> gnomefreak: pasted  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/836/
[05:51] <Tony_> yeah i re-installed it, but i probably have t edit menu.ls, anyway the disc won't find ubuntu.. bit i didn't think it needed GRUB to find it, concidering it's a live cd..
[05:51] <ikonia> Wimpog never mind, let me know how you get on
[05:51] <Tony_> MDT: you have installed the drivers right?
[05:51] <Wimpog> ikonia: I edited the /etc/network/interfaces yesterday, and tried that. BUT I did not just do it now....
[05:51] <setog3> hi all , I have only ubuntu live cd / and install cd , how can I reinstall grub ? (windows sp2 delete my grub)
[05:51] <gnomefreak> kenthomson: that was for the commercial repo and that is no longer kept up
[05:51] <StraightShootinC> Tony... did you mount the partition?
[05:51] <kenthomson> gnomefreak, ok
[05:51] <ikonia> Tony_ you don't need grub - if your system won't find the cd at boot time - its hardware problems, as your OS has not loaded
[05:52] <vinder> who
[05:52] <StraightShootinC> !grub
[05:52] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:52] <Tony_> StraightShootinC: hmm.. do i have to do that? i think i remember from pervious live cd usage that i didn't anyway, i'll try:D
[05:52] <gnomefreak> kenthomson: you can always add it to your sources.list but the packages are not up-to-date and ubuntu no longer supports them
[05:53] <gnomefreak> kenthomson: also note its a bad idea mixing repos
[05:53] <setog3> StraightShootinC: thx to you
[05:53] <hamil> hello everybody. I am looking for a TV-tuner pcmcia card for my laptop. Anyone know of some card that will work out of the box?
[05:53] <root_> motherfuckers!!!!!!!!!
[05:53] <ikonia> !hcl | hamil
[05:53] <ubotu> hamil: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:53] <kenthomson> gnomefreak, one more thing, whenver i download some software from the internet using firefox in .zip or in .tar format, they download fine, but when i click on them on the desktop the icon of the archive (a box one) changes to one of html document. That means that the .zip file now has a html icon and behaves as one. Moreover, when i try to extract it nothing happens even when i extract it at the command line, somehow it becomes a html document magic
[05:53] <kenthomson> ally when i click it with a mouse. I am highly confused and need some help
[05:53] <eXistenZ> anyone?
[05:54] <jpjacobs> !language|root_
[05:54] <ubotu> root_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:54] <StraightShootinC> Tony   if you can get up to the live Cd desktop, and if you wish to change some files on your previous installation, you need to create folders and mount those partitions in those folders... if you can't boot the live cd... then I'm not being helpful at all
[05:54] <mvfeinstein> If I want to share a folder over the network, and not have to log into to access it what would be the best way to do that?
[05:54] <javi> irc://irc.freenode.org/ubuntu-es
[05:54] <pike_> hamil: never used em but hauppauge  are good cards supported well i think
[05:54] <hamil> ok, i will look to that mark then, thanks pike_!
[05:55] <gnomefreak> kenthomson: that is new. i have never even heard of that happening unless it has an html doc inside the zipped archive
[05:55] <kenthomson> gnomefreak, no its a proper archive, and i can't extract it, that happens with quite a few archives that i download :(
[05:56] <obstfliege> nabend!
[05:56] <gnomefreak> crimson: delete lines 1 and 2 than save and close it than run sudo apt-get update again
[05:56] <hamil> pike_ looks like its only pci cards listed on the hardware support page.. :(
[05:56] <crimson> gnomefreak: okay
[05:56] <gnomefreak> kenthomson: can you post the archive somewhere so i can try it
[05:57] <kenthomson> gnomefreak, ok let me see
[05:57] <gnomefreak> crimson: also delete line 5
[05:57] <gnomefreak> thats the issue as i see now
[05:57] <Tony_> wehey i just needed to mount the disc..:$
[05:58] <kenthomson> gnomefreak, that happens with many archives that i download from sourceforge, but as of now it would be difficult to find one...i think you wouldn;t be able to reproduce the problem unless you are sitting at my PC :)
[05:58] <crimson> gnomefreak: still malformed line 2
[05:58] <gnomefreak> crimson: as long as you have the cdrom repos enabled its gonna try to read them first by default
[05:58] <piyush> #vista
[05:58] <gnomefreak> crimson: delete lines 1 2 and 5
[05:58] <crimson> gnomefreak: i di
[05:58] <crimson> d
[05:58] <gnomefreak> crimson: what line is now line 2
[05:58] <crimson> gnomefreak: its blank
[05:59] <kenthomson> gnomefreak, gotta run!, thanks for the help.
[05:59] <Wakeskate> ie been playing around with ubuntu for a few days. it keeps randomly freezing. i just did a fresh install and installed nothing extra and it still locks up
[05:59] <gnomefreak> can you paste the new list you have now to pastebin
[05:59] <kenthomson> HAPPY UBUNTU-ing
[05:59] <kenthomson> :)
[05:59] <Wakeskate> can someone please help me out
[05:59] <jpjacobs> Wakeskate, anything in the logs? (/var/log/...)
[05:59] <crimson> gnomefreak:just a sec
[06:00] <Wakeskate> i really wouldnt know what to look for jpc
[06:00] <Wakeskate> jpjacobs
[06:00] <Wakeskate> im very new to linux
[06:00] <ikonia> Wakeskate whats the problem
[06:00] <Wakeskate> ill be using ubuntu and it will just freeze
[06:01] <Wakeskate> i thought it was firefox but it happened with opera too
[06:01] <ikonia> Wakeskate at what point does it freeze
[06:01] <Wakeskate> the whole computer just freezes and i have to hit the reboot button
[06:01] <Wakeskate> any point
[06:01] <ikonia> Wakeskate run a memtest on your PC
[06:01] <crimson> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/838/
[06:01] <Wakeskate> i did
[06:01] <Wakeskate> it was fine
[06:01] <ikonia> Wakeskate how long did you leave it running for
[06:01] <Wakeskate> i have vista dual booted
[06:01] <selinuxium_> Wakeskate: if you type the first few letters of a nick then hit tab it wil finish it off for you
[06:01] <konam> Wakeskate what version of ubuntu do you use?
[06:01] <jseattle> does anyone know how to fix the flash player bug in edgy
[06:01] <akastler> ola kien es
[06:01] <jhaig> How much memory does it have?
[06:01] <jpjacobs> for example take sudo less /var/log/kernel (in a console), and look at the bottom for lines with errors.
[06:01] <Wakeskate> whoa too many people
[06:02] <akastler> abla algien espaol
[06:02] <jpjacobs> ok i'll bugger of. :)
[06:02] <jpjacobs> !es
[06:02] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:02] <selinuxium_> jseattle: what bug? I am using the one from the seveas.ubuntulinux.nl site.
[06:02] <kbrosnan> Wakeskate: got any plugins flash/java installed?
[06:02] <Wakeskate> im usuaing 6.10. i run windows so i dont think its a memory issue. it happens after 5 minutes or after 20.
[06:02] <Wakeskate> i had at one time
[06:02] <Wakeskate> before i formatted an hour ago i had all my stuff set up nice
[06:02] <Wakeskate> but it just freezed whenever it felt like
[06:02] <jpjacobs> Wakeskate, windows running is not necesarrily a sign of healthy ram...
[06:02] <jseattle> selinuxium: i am using edgy and every time i load a page with flash in firefox 2.0, the browser crashes
[06:02] <Wakeskate> ok well i ran memtest
[06:03] <Wakeskate> and it was fine
[06:03] <bosozoku> jseattle, there's a fix for that
[06:03] <Wakeskate> ive had the desktop up and running for about 25 minutes now no freeze but im not doing anything on it
[06:03] <jseattle> bosozoku: please help
[06:03] <Wakeskate> on another computer now
[06:03] <selinuxium_> jseattle: I have the same set up and do not suffer the same problems. Sometime on myspace when someone hav eover pimped there page with 100s of widgets FF crashes but otherwise. no.
[06:04] <peace-keeper> i have a 120gb hard disk and want to install ubuntu using vmware.. how large should i make the virtual disk?
[06:04] <bosozoku> export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1
[06:04] <bosozoku> stick this in /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[06:04] <esi2_14> hello
[06:04] <bosozoku> or in the ff startup script
[06:04] <gnomefreak> crimson: what is the output when running sudo apt-get update
[06:04] <Wakeskate> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=313411
[06:04] <Wakeskate> thats the best i could come up with but there arent any solutions
[06:04] <esi2_14> the script????
[06:04] <jseattle> thx bosozku
[06:04] <esi2_14> false
[06:04] <bosozoku> also, upgrade to ff 2.0.0.1
[06:04] <Wakeskate> just people experiencing problems like myself
[06:04] <piyush> what is get key ?
[06:05] <crimson> gnomefreak: E: Malformed line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/edgy-universe.list (dist parse)
[06:05] <jseattle> cool
[06:05] <bosozoku> btw, i'm still haveing some flash problems in ff
[06:05] <YogSothoth_> Hi
[06:05] <jseattle> thanks guys
[06:05] <selinuxium_> bosozoku: what does that command do?
[06:05] <bosozoku> videos halt after 2 seconds
[06:06] <gnomefreak> ok crimson open that file up with gksudo and delete everything in it and leave it open
[06:06] <crimson> gnomefreak okay
[06:06] <bosozoku> selinux, it changes something with video display that allows flash to function with less than 24-bit color
[06:06] <Carlos_L> xd
[06:06] <crimson> gnomefreak: its open and empty
[06:07] <gnomefreak> crimson: give me a minute
[06:07] <crimson> gnomefreak: okay
[06:08] <gh0st> hello, i just updated something i shouldn't, how can i 'DOWN'date ?
[06:09] <konam> gh0st te pasaste a edgy?
[06:09] <konam> gh0st sorry, you upgraded to edgy?
[06:09] <gnomefreak> crimson: copy and paste everything on this site to that file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/839/plain/
[06:09] <gh0st> konam: yes
[06:09] <Jon335> I'm running Edgy, and none of the progress bars display, it's like this on the live CD too.
[06:09] <gnomefreak> crimson: let me know when your done pasting it
[06:09] <konam> gh0st and you want to go back to dapper...?
[06:10] <mvfeinstein> If I want to share files on my local network with no authentication to access them whats better nfs or samba?
[06:10] <crimson> gnomefreak: done
[06:10] <Rage___> mvfeinstein: if you are using windoz then samba
[06:10] <gnomefreak> crimson: save and close it
[06:10] <kcinna> !ssh
[06:10] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[06:10] <Jon335> what should i do?
[06:10] <gh0st> konam: no, just one app-update
[06:11] <gnomefreak> crimson: once saved and close run sudo apt-get update
[06:11] <crimson> gnomefreak: same error, maybe i need to reboot?
[06:11] <gnomefreak> crimson: shouldnt have to. make sure there are no stray marks in that file.
[06:12] <gh0st> how can i UNDO an application update?
[06:13] <kane77> is there something that would open .dgn files? (my dad has some maps in this format...)
[06:13] <crimson> gnomefreak: it is exact
[06:13] <heartofgold> hi. im having problems playing real media files. i tried the !restricted stuff... problem is, realplayer plays them very choppily, and mplayer, xine give me errors
[06:13] <heartofgold> any ideas?
[06:13] <gnomefreak> crimson: give me a couple of minutes for this
[06:14] <crimson> gnomefreak: okay
[06:14] <joxnil> Hmm. A lot more quiet now than yesterday evening
[06:14] <Tony_> gah i still det the "NTLDR is missing" on boot..:/
[06:15] <joxnil> Maybe someone can help me installing a dual-screen setup today...
[06:15] <afmacedo> Hi
[06:15] <afmacedo> I have a question about my repository organization
[06:15] <kane77> !ask | afmacedo
[06:15] <ubotu> afmacedo: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:15] <joxnil> :)
[06:16] <mvfeinstein> Rage_ is there a way to set up the share so that it does not promt for credentials?
[06:16] <afmacedo> "If I have 2 different distros, do I have to maintain 2 different versions of the same package ?
[06:16] <konam> gh0st undo?
[06:16] <konam> just uninstall the app and reinstall the version you want
[06:16] <peace-keeper> hi, can i ask to ask a question?
[06:16] <gh0st> konam: yes, i updated something let's say 1.2 to 1.3 and now i want 1.2 back
[06:16] <konam> if you wanna update it just make an "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[06:17] <Wimpog> ikonia: I got DHCP to work
[06:17] <Wimpog> ikonia: thanks for your help
[06:17] <joxnil> Question: Using Ubuntu 6.10 with ATI Radeon 9200 PRO. Trying to install TV-out, but no effect so far... Used many different HOWTO's but the screen remains stripey...
[06:17] <mrlinux> how do i check to see if edubuntu is blocking a port or type of connection
[06:18] <sleepy745> deb http://xgl.compiz.info/ dapper main doesn't workm any ideas?
[06:18] <sleepy745> for sources.list
[06:18] <chaosklica1_> add beryl!
[06:19] <chaosklica1_> do you want the sources for beryl?
[06:19] <sleepy745> for compiz
[06:19] <jthurman_linux> Has anyone ever set up a private nntp server in ubuntu?  I'm having trouble finding documentation on how to do it and would appreciate a push in the right direction.
[06:20] <konam> gh0st i told you
[06:20] <joxnil> Question: Using Ubuntu 6.10 with ATI Radeon 9200 PRO. Trying to install TV-out, but no effect so far... Used many different HOWTO's but the screen remains stripey...
[06:20] <gh0st> konam: that's what i finally did ... what a pain in the *** :-)
[06:20] <konam> :)
[06:20] <mrlinux> how do i check to see if edubuntu is blocking a port or type of connection
[06:22] <chaosklica1_> sleepy745 try this deb http://gandalfn.club.fr/ubuntu/ edgy .
[06:22] <chaosklica1_> deb http://gandalfn.club.fr/ubuntu/ edgy-misc .
[06:22] <chaosklica1_> deb http://gandalfn.club.fr/ubuntu/ edgy-dev
[06:23] <hendrickvp> what do you do when drupal will not show photos?
[06:24] <Tony_> gah i still get the "NTLDR is missing" on boot..:/  any suggestions?
[06:25] <chaosklica1_> sleppy745 http://cmaverick.wordpress.com/2006/11/11/sourceslist-completo/
[06:25] <trinitrogen> How do I change which programs open which files for me?
[06:25] <Tomcat_> Tony_: Check in grub on boot if you have the right partition/drive.
[06:25] <juano_> trinitrogen: open with
[06:26] <Tomcat_> Tony_: Select the line for Windows, press 'e', find the "root" line, press 'e', then put in "root (hd" and press TAB... that way you can check your drives and partitions.
[06:26] <trinitrogen> juano_, how do I make it perminant
[06:26] <Ben_FP> hello all :)
[06:27] <juano_> trinitrogen: are you in kde or gnome?
[06:27] <trinitrogen> juano_,  gnome
[06:27] <Wimpog> GUYS, I just enabled bridging on my PC, that is I bridged together eth0 and eth1, BUT I can NO LONGER SSH to it.... Any ideas, why?
[06:28] <juano_> trinitrogen: gnome, you go to properties of that file and go to a tablet on the right and youll see an application order
[06:28] <juano_> trinitrogen: you can modify this by selecting default application to launch with
[06:28] <Tony_> Tomcat_: problem is, GRUB won't load, all i get is "NTLDR is missing".. I've re installed GRUB two times already...:/
[06:28] <Ben_FP> i have a very basic question... this is all very new to me...
[06:28] <juano_> Tony_: seems your install didnt work
[06:29] <trinitrogen> juano_,  thanks!
[06:29] <juano_> trinitrogen: no prob :)
[06:29] <Ben_FP> can i still instal normal software on a ubuntu OS? such as microsoft office?
[06:29] <juano_> Tony_: how did you install grub?
[06:29] <Slart> Ben_FP: you can't install windows software.. if that's what you call "normal" software
[06:29] <juano_> Ben_FP: you would need to use wine for that or cross over office
[06:29] <Tony_> so, what can possibly have gone wrong? I installed GRUB from Ubuntu Live CD, using the "setup (hd0)"
[06:30] <Jon335> !wine
[06:30] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:30] <Tomcat_> Tony_: Maybe you're not booting from hd0? :o
[06:30] <Slart> Ben_FP: there are ways to install windows software.. but it's still a bit shaky.. most of the time there's good alternatives though
[06:30] <juano_> i agree with Tomcat_
[06:30] <juano_> Ben_FP: open office :D
[06:31] <Ben_FP> ah i see
[06:31] <Ben_FP> and software such as itune... it comes for lunix based os right?
[06:31] <Tony_> well yeah that is a possibilityXD, but eh.. how do i find out wich "hd" i'm booting from? concidering BIOS and "fdisk" is using other names?:P
[06:31] <juano_> Ben_FP: itunes doesnt come for linux, but you can get gtkpod, amarok
[06:31] <Slart> Ben_FP: I'm not sure.. perhaps someone else knows
[06:31] <Ben_FP> and that will work with my ipod right?
[06:32] <Slart> Ben_FP: there are plenty of music apps that work with your ipod.. Amarok is one that I use myself
[06:32] <Ben_FP> cool
[06:32] <juano_> Ben_FP: in most cases it works, depends on wich ipod, i tried it out with a motorola rokr and could sync itunes, but thats another deal, with normal pods it works
[06:32] <juano_> Ben_FP: couldnt sorry
[06:33] <Ben_FP> and what is the difference ubuintu and kubuntu? i downloaded both...
[06:33] <juano_> kubuntu works with kde desktop, ubuntu by default uses gnome
[06:33] <Ben_FP> ubuntu**
[06:33] <Slart> Ben_FP: Kubuntu uses KDE, Ubuntu uses gnome.. different look and feel
[06:34] <Ben_FP> ehhhh and what'S the diff? cause i know nothing about all this
[06:34] <marko_> my var/www folder links to usr/share/phpmyadmin, this does not seem normal, is it?
[06:34] <juano_> Ben_FP: different X interface, different desktops
[06:34] <Ben_FP> ah
[06:34] <Slart> Ben_FP: look and feel mostly
[06:34] <Ben_FP> and is one better then the other?? such as media or games or whatever?
[06:35] <Slart> Ben_FP: ohh.. dangerous question.. what is better.. Amiga or Atari ;)
[06:35] <Jon335> Ben_FP, it's mostly preference
[06:35] <hjmills> hi - i have a problem
[06:35] <Ben_FP> ah i see
[06:35] <juano_> Ben_FP: yeah... just different
[06:35] <Ben_FP> such as xbox 360 or playstation 3 :P
[06:35] <Wimpog> GUYS, who can help with with Bridging???
[06:35] <Slart> Ben_FP: I use gnome as a base.. but I've still got some KDE apps installed.. you're not that limited
[06:35] <Ben_FP> i see
[06:35] <juano_> Wimpog: what seems to be the problem?
[06:36] <Slart> Ben_FP: I would say even less diff than xbox 360 and ps3
[06:36] <Ben_FP> and gnome and KDE is just the file system or formate??
[06:36] <moab_> How does one uninstall a program (eg Helix Player) from the desktop when using Ubuntu 6.10?
[06:36] <Wimpog> Once I add a bridge, and bridge eth0 and eth1, I CANNOT SSH to my server anymore!!!
[06:36] <Slart> Ben_FP: if you downloaded the normal install you can always boot using the live cd and try them out before deciding
[06:36] <Jon335> Ben_FP, they are the windowing systems, they handle look and feel
[06:36] <Wimpog> I can see the bridge, but can't SSH to any of the interfaces anymore
[06:36] <osfameron> !dual-head
[06:36] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead
[06:36] <Wimpog> When I remove the bridge, I can ssh
[06:36] <Jon335> !help
[06:36] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:37] <peace-keeper> !torrent
[06:37] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[06:37] <Wimpog> I used brctl for creating bridge
[06:37] <osfameron> hrmpf, I was hoping dualhead on ubuntu would JustWork(tm) these days
[06:37] <juano_> Wimpog: how is your network setup?
[06:37] <Wimpog> juano_: what exactly are you asking?
[06:38] <juano_> Wimpog: to what are eth0 and eth1 connected?
[06:38] <nullnvoid> hey
[06:38] <BenFP> thanx for the info guys :)
[06:38] <nullnvoid> need some document about configuring my wireless connection
[06:38] <Wimpog> juano_: eth0 is connected to LiNKSYS. eth1 to nothing right now
[06:38] <Slart> Ben_FP: it's hard to try to describe the difference.. try googling for gnome and kde and look at some screenshots.. or try the live cds.. that's what they are there for
[06:39] <BenFP> i downloaded the linux OS form the sire... can i still instal and try it out on my windows os right now?
[06:39] <Wimpog> juano_: regular PC from which I'm sshing is also behind the LinkSYS
[06:39] <BenFP> and roll back?
[06:39] <BenFP> site*
[06:39] <Slart> BenFP: you can have both installed if you've got the hard drive space for it
[06:39] <nullnvoid> can eth1 be the wireless device?
[06:39] <juano_> Wimpog: mm not route maniac... maybe someone else can help ya with that
[06:39] <BenFP> Ooo cool
[06:39] <Wimpog> juano_: ok, thnkx
[06:40] <BenFP> ok i'll go back to the site and use the live CD :P
[06:40] <Slart> BenFP: I've still got my windows 2000 partition... just in case I really really need windows for something
[06:40] <moab_> !<uninstall application>
[06:40] <juano_> Wimpog: though it may have to do with iptables and ssh port
[06:40] <kzm_> hey.. did anybody got a KEYSPAN serialusbconterverter working under ubuntu?
[06:40] <BenFP> so you can have more then one OS on your hd right??
[06:41] <Wimpog> juano_: yeah, I've found something online, but it doesn't say clearly what has to be configured...
[06:41] <BenFP> i got XP home eddition
[06:41] <juano_> BenFP: yep, as many as it can
[06:41] <BenFP> it kinda sucks LOL
[06:41] <BenFP> cool
[06:41] <juano_> Wimpog: try this from both machines: iptables -p FORWARD ACCEPT
[06:41] <kzm_> nobody?
[06:41] <Slart> BenFP: yes, you can have more than one OS.. it's called dual booting
[06:41] <Slart> !dual
[06:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:41] <Slart> !dualbooting
[06:41] <kzm_> resources may be?
[06:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dualbooting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:41] <pike_> BenFP: !grub
[06:41] <pike_> er..
[06:41] <pike_> !grub | BenFP
[06:41] <ubotu> BenFP: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:41] <Wimpog> juano_: which both machines? the server on which bridge is enabled and ....?
[06:42] <sdundon> I deleted all the postgresql files.  How can I get them back?
[06:42] <nullnvoid> !wireless
[06:42] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:42] <BenFP> and questions on the hardware... i just ordered a new video card and sound card... will they be suported in ubuntu or kubuntu??
[06:42] <juano_> Wimpog: thought you had 2... from where to where do you want to ssh?
[06:43] <Wimpog> juano_: yeah, one of them is Windows
[06:43] <sdundon> Does any one know how to fix a corrupted package instance?
[06:43] <Slart> BenFP: what kind of graphics card?
[06:43] <juano_> Wimpog: ohh lol, then try iptables -p FORWARD ACCEPT from server
[06:43] <pike_> BenFP: video card no question you want nvidia not ati. ati drivers are not good for 3d stuff. nvidia is very good about support
[06:43] <rrittenhouse> I'm trying to find a package that will let me remove graphical completely.. any ideas?
[06:43] <mrlinux> how do i check to see if edubuntu is blocking a port or type of connection
[06:43] <rrittenhouse> in edgy
[06:43] <Wimpog> juano_: yeah, I'm going to right now
[06:43] <BenFP> ati radeon X1950 pro
[06:43] <hjmills> hi
[06:43] <sdundon> why use ubuntu if not using graphics?  why not debian?
[06:43] <hjmills> how do i find out what the lag is in irssi?
[06:44] <juano_> Wimpog: it may be problem with packet forwarding
[06:44] <Slart> BenFP: most things work in linux.. although some things work better than others.. =) graphic cards are one of those things.. nvidia cards work better than ati cards.. but people are using both
[06:44] <BenFP> i know nvidia is better... but it's so expensive
[06:44] <BULLE> sdundon: because debian is very slow with updates, and so on ?
[06:44] <Slart> BULLE: even in unstable or testing?
[06:44] <sdundon> bulle: fair enough.  but it also a much more "light-weight" system
[06:44] <rrittenhouse> sdundon, I dont have the server cd but I wanted to use my regular edgy install cd and just remove graphical since i have everything else working
[06:45] <pike_> BenFP: i would recommend an older nvidia card and saving your money over ati. most linux games older gen cards are fine for
[06:45] <Slart> !ATI | BenFP
[06:45] <ubotu> BenFP: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:45] <hjmills> oh evidently today is the turn for irc not to work - dont you love it!? (hint- NO!)
[06:45] <BULLE> Slart: no, but then you have the joy of using unstable, and when things go to hell, all you get to hear is "that is to be expected, you use unstable"
[06:45] <sdundon> does any1 know how to restore the /vali/lib/postgresql/8.1 directory?
[06:45] <Slart> BULLE: that's debian for you =)
[06:45] <hjmills> and im probably talking to myself which is rather sad - i cant see any replies if anybody is recieving and replying
[06:45] <BULLE> Slart: ye, =( =)
[06:45] <hjmills> oh - lag of 112 going up by the second.... no chance
[06:46] <Slart> BULLE: but surely there must be some other distro then.. or you like the debian/ubuntu style?
[06:46] <Wimpog> juano_: FORWARD isn't recognized option
[06:46] <BenFP> and how do games work on linux? most game are window based are they not?? can i still play them on ubuntu?? cause that'S why i got a video card...
[06:46] <sdundon> bulle: close gdm and then do a sudo apt-get remoce xorg-x11 ?
[06:46] <juano_> Wimpog: i found this for ssh
[06:46] <Slart> BenFP: games are a sad chapter in the linux-book..
[06:47] <sdundon> BenFP: Wine/cedega
[06:47] <BULLE> Slart: well, me personaly ? i use a fedora, gentoo and ubuntu, as i find them suitable for diff things
[06:47] <Slart> BenFP: some work using wine.. other almost work.. some are made for linux... but most aren't
[06:47] <sdundon> BenFP: there is a little work to be done, but pratically no games that can't run in linux
[06:47] <BenFP> ah i see
[06:47] <nullnvoid> guyz my loptop is near the wireless modem and I can see it's sending/receiving but the signal strength is 0 why's that?
[06:48] <BULLE> sdundon: i think you should direct that to rrittenhouse or whoever it was that needed actual help with it
[06:48] <pike_> BenFP: there are some good games that are free though.  enemy terriory, tremulous, are both very good onlne fps games. savage2 all the ID games..
[06:48] <nullnvoid> already sent 23998 packets
[06:48] <sdundon> BenFP: any game using the OpenGL works automatically, basically, and all of the [mind blank]  windows things are difficult
[06:48] <sdundon> sorry
[06:48] <Slart> BULLE: yes.. I figured it might be easier chosing another distro than taking the gnome out of ubuntu
[06:48] <BenFP> do i ahve to download an app to be able to play the window based games on ubuntu or somehting like that??
[06:49] <BenFP> most of the games i play are openGL
[06:49] <jrib> !wine | BenFP
[06:49] <ubotu> BenFP: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:49] <Slart> BenFP: yes.. that app would be wine.. you can check what games work at winehq.com .. or was it winehw.org?
[06:49] <jrib> !cedega | BenFP
[06:49] <ubotu> BenFP: cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[06:49] <pike_> BenFP: wine is capable with some config but most people have better luck with cedega.
[06:49] <scotta316> My computer had several oom-killer events overnight, and now some of my panel applets have disappeared.
[06:49] <sdundon> BULLE: "<BenFP>	and how do games work on linux? most game are window based are they not?? can i still play them on ubuntu?? cause that'S why i got a video card..."
[06:49] <x0x> ANyone know a good link on wine edgy x86 64?
[06:49] <ErrantEgo-Laptop> rrittenhouse :P
[06:49] <juano_> Wimpog: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/842/
[06:49] <Slart> BenFP: although.. games that work flawlessly using wine are more the exception than the rule
[06:49] <juano_> Wimpog: try that
[06:49] <mirak> hi
[06:50] <mirak> when you duplicate a hard drive on one other with dd, is the disk geometry important ?
[06:50] <Goldenphoenix> BenFP: I know some guys who use Cedega/Wine and are playing even modern games, but it's difficult with action-games
[06:50] <scotta316> Is Cedega free?
[06:50] <sdundon> BenFP: wine is a bitch.  but impressive.  as with everything else, google "ubuntu howto _blank_" where blank is the game
[06:50] <jrib> scotta316: no
[06:50] <sdundon> cedega is not free
[06:50] <Wimpog> juano_: Ok, I'll try, will the webserver work then, or will it require an additional rule?
[06:50] <sdundon> but I here it is worth it
[06:50] <Tony_> I tried installing GRUB on a different drive, but then i get !Cannot mount selected partition".. anyone?
[06:50] <Goldenphoenix> scotta316: no but not very expensive
[06:50] <Slart> isn't cedega free if you compile it yourself?
[06:50] <juano_> Wimpog: that line accepts connections for ssh
[06:51] <sdundon> you only need a one month subscription
[06:51] <sortl> the gnome-terminal drops clipboard, anyone else experience this annoying fact?
[06:51] <juano_> Wimpog: for http it would be:
[06:51] <jrib> sortl: what do you mean?
[06:51] <ErrantEgo-Laptop> rrittenhouse :P
[06:51] <x0x> Slart : Got how to?
[06:51] <Wimpog> juano_: so, once I enable bridge, I would have to add all these rules, that I normally don't need?
[06:51] <sortl> tell jrib, well the clipboard sometimes stop working
[06:52] <Slart> x0x: huh?
[06:52] <mag__> Please help me with samba !... I can't see the images inside a file shared with samba ! widonws says that the img is not avalible ! ...
[06:52] <sortl> jrib: im thinking maybe i should start using someother terminal...
[06:52] <juano_> Wimpog: it would have to be once the bridge is enabled cause you cant ssh after you enable the bridge
[06:52] <BenFP> yeah cedega is not free but there is a free versino called CVS... right or i could always use WINE...
[06:53] <x0x> Slart: How to compile it
[06:53] <wheels3572> what do I do after I have done chown -R <my_username> $HOME/.gaim/logs
[06:53] <jrib> sortl: I've never experienced it but i usually use the X clipboard
[06:53] <usuario_> mendez
[06:53] <usuario_> mendez
[06:53] <Slart> x0x: oh.. I have no idea.. it was just a comment about cedege being free
[06:53] <Kuwabara_ss> i need help!!
[06:53] <jrib> !helpme | Kuwabara_ss
[06:53] <ubotu> Kuwabara_ss: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:53] <juano_> Wimpog: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/843/
[06:53] <BenFP> hmm
[06:53] <juano_> Wimpog: thats for http accepting
[06:53] <Kuwabara_ss> !helpme
[06:54] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:54] <BenFP> i guess i could try the cedege CVS
[06:54] <usuario_> hola
[06:54] <BenFP> that is a free software
[06:54] <melecio> Does the diskmounter comes with ubuntu already or i have to download it?
[06:54] <Slart> eh. Kuwabara_ss. What's your question?
[06:54] <BenFP> cedega**
[06:54] <Kuwabara_ss> Slart, archives .mp4
[06:54] <jrib> melecio: if you mean the script called "diskmounter", no, you have to download it
[06:54] <Wimpog> juano_: ok, I'll try that. The problem is that I have the sever, IP router, bridge, DHCP server, LAMP server all on one PC
[06:54] <jrib> !diskmounter | melecio
[06:54] <ubotu> melecio: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[06:54] <mrlinux> what is the linux command for tracert
[06:54] <Kuwabara_ss> Slart, play, but without sound
[06:54] <pike_> BenFP: that is the source code youd have to compile. of course that is what you should do downloading the torrent would be dishonest
[06:55] <usuario_> to be red
[06:55] <juano_> Wimpog: ok, its worth the try though
[06:55] <BenFP> and how do i compile it so i can use it freely?
[06:55] <Wimpog> juano_: yeah
[06:55] <usuario_> 
[06:55] <usuario_> k
[06:55] <Slart> Kuwabara_ss: oh.. I can't help you with that.. perhaps someone else can.. include what player you're using
[06:55] <usuario_> l
[06:55] <usuario_> 
[06:55] <melecio> ok thanks!
[06:55] <BenFP> OoO and i use ed2k not bittorent... is that supported in linux??
[06:55] <BenFP> lol
[06:55] <Kuwabara_ss> Slart, okz...tank
[06:55] <Goldenphoenix> BenFP: yes both
[06:55] <Slart> BenFP: hehe.. that's why people are paying.. it's not that easy.. probably not that hard either.. but it will take some work
[06:56] <BenFP> ah yes i suppose you need an app to sompile the open code too :P lol
[06:56] <pike_> BenFP: amule
[06:56] <Slart> BenFP: not one.. a couple of them.. and libraries etc etc etc.. and patience.. and strong coffee
[06:56] <BenFP> Goldenphoenix... thank you :) i will look into ed2k apps that work with linux
[06:57] <BenFP> i use emule... i suppose amule is similar
[06:57] <BenFP> lol thanx slart :P
[06:57] <BenFP> will brew a strong coffe :P
[06:57] <Slart> hehe
[06:57] <dime> Hi. I have installed XGL but now I want to know how can I disable it?
[06:57] <rrittenhouse> So is there a package I can remove in synaptic that will let me effectively remove graphical from edgy
[06:58] <LjL> Ubotu, tell dime about xgl | dime, see the private message from Ubotu
[06:58] <gean> hi everybody! is there any ubuntu package (orr at least linux free soft), that can do the following: combine a PDF file (mathematics, say) with sound (ogg, say), such that the result can be seen as a ``film'', where the image does not change very quickly, but rather every 20 seconds up to 2 min ?! Help & suggestions are highly appreciated!
[06:58] <Slart> rrittenhouse: try removing the gnome stuff.. that might work... with a big might
[06:58] <rrittenhouse> lol vmware first it is
[06:58] <rrittenhouse> ;)
[06:59] <wheels3572> jrib, what do I do after I have done chown -R <my_username> $HOME/.gaim/logs
[06:59] <mike_tenerife> Hi all....first week with Ubuntu here
[06:59] <jrib> wheels3572: what are you trying to do?
[06:59] <BenFP> Creative 7.1 Channel PCI Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatal1ty FPS  does this sound card work with linux?? i hope soo LOL
[06:59] <Goldenphoenix> rrittenhouse: why synaptic, why not aptitude
[07:00] <gean> why aptitude, synaptic has an own LaTex & an own science category?
[07:00] <wheels3572> jrib, same as the other day.  I have screwed up log diirectory apparently. THat's what 3 people have told me and 2 have told me to use chown -R and I just did
[07:00] <mike_tenerife> anyone knows when amsn .97b will be in the normal repo?
[07:00] <jrib> gean: I'm not sure but a search turn up http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/movie15/ and I'm curious how it works
[07:00] <ubu_> i have the following error message...what should i do? smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)
[07:00] <jrib> wheels3572: ls -ld your log directory
[07:00] <gean> jrib : thanks for the hint, following it now..
[07:00] <Slart> BenFP: probably.. you can always google for ubuntu creative soundcard or something like that.. see if you get people swearing over the card or people being happy with it
[07:01] <BenFP> lol will do.. thanx slart :)
[07:01] <wheels3572> jrib, so would that be ls -ld /path to gaim log direcotry?
[07:01] <BenFP> is there a ubuntu section on sound card on the main site page??
[07:01] <jrib> wheels3572: sure
[07:01] <Goldenphoenix> BenFP: Sorry, butI have had such one, but I've never got it work properly
[07:01] <ErrantEgo-Laptop> Goldenphoenix: theres no difference
[07:02] <pike_> BenFP: wiki.ubuntu.com is a good place to search
[07:02] <Slart> BenFP: I have no idea... you could check the forums.. there should be a sound group there
[07:02] <wheels3572> jrib, drwx
[07:02] <jrib> wheels3572: everything
[07:02] <BenFP> cool thanx for all the help guys :)
[07:02] <Kuwabara_ss> videos .mp4 with video, but without sound....
[07:02] <ubu> i am ubu_
[07:03] <Goldenphoenix> ErrantEgo-Laptop: but when removing graphical, why use a graphical inerface? That can't be good, not?
[07:03] <wheels3572> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/844/
[07:03] <wheels3572> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/844/
[07:03] <jrib> gean: I've heard of the "beamer" package too.  It's used for presentations.  That may have some way to include an ogg
[07:03] <rrittenhouse> Goldenphoenix, true
[07:04] <Kuwabara_ss> !helpme videos .mp4 with video, but without sound..
[07:04] <mirak> when you boot in single, does linux mounts the partitions other than / ?
[07:04] <jrib> wheels3572: you can paste single lines here :)  Your permissions are find, there's no reason gaim can't write to log/ .  How about the subdirectories, do they have the same permissions?   Also, does running gaim in a terminal give you any useful output?
[07:04] <jrib> wheels3572: s/find/fine
[07:04] <ubu> i try to mount a samba share as user...but i have the folowing message: smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)...how should i modify /etc/sudoers?
[07:04] <Kuwabara_ss> !helpme
[07:04] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:04] <subzero800> Does anybody here have any experience installing beryl with dual monitors in ubuntu?
[07:05] <oxygen> hi
[07:05] <Kuwabara_ss> Videos .mp4 without sound
[07:05] <Goldenphoenix> rrittenhouse: "sudo aptitude remove xorg" ;-) and have a very good look what will be removed before pressing "y"
[07:05] <ubu> Kuwabara_ss: do you have sound in ubuntu?
[07:05] <alecjw> Kuwabara_ss: in what program?
[07:05] <Kuwabara_ss> ubu, yes
[07:05] <Zaggynl> My hdd is churning, how do I find out in Ubuntu what is using it?
[07:05] <wheels3572> jrib, I just know you all dont like cut and paste normally directly to the lobby here so I did what I was supposed to lol
[07:06] <Kuwabara_ss> alecjw, totem
[07:06] <wheels3572> jrib, checking those few thing snow
[07:06] <Peggerrr> ubu I dont think that has anything to do with sudo
[07:06] <auTONYmous> What's the best/most complete GTK media player? (Opinions welcome)
[07:06] <jpjacobs> Zaggynl, fuser -am
[07:06] <ubu> Peggerrr: so what should i do?
[07:06] <Goldenphoenix> rrittenhouse: but before "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[07:06] <jrib> wheels3572: yeah, but a single line url takes the same space as a single line message, your effort is appreciated though :)
[07:06] <kjaer> autoklauen, exaile, got everything and is fast
[07:06] <Zaggynl> jpjacobs, cheers
[07:06] <lyml> ello folks
[07:06] <alecjw> Kuwabara_ss: sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse
[07:06] <wheels3572> jrib, ok good point :).  yw though anytime I like to follow rules of the room :)
[07:06] <auTONYmous> kjaer: I agree, but I'm looking for alternatives...
[07:07] <lyml> i got a little problem setting up my wireless, anyone care to help?
[07:07] <kjaer> Why ? What do you need ?
[07:07] <kjaer> lyml, What card ?
[07:07] <Kuwabara_ss> alecjw, i made that
[07:07] <mirak> est ce que linux monte les partitions autre que / en mode single user ?
[07:07] <lyml> i think it's an intel one
[07:07] <jrib> !fr | mirak
[07:07] <ubotu> mirak: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:07] <Peggerrr> ubu, not exactly sure but it is makinig reference to uid's and it sounds like samba does not like it;s uid
[07:07] <mirak> when you boot in single, does linux mounts the partitions other than / ?
[07:07] <kjaer> lyml, What does the command cat /proc/net/wireless tell you ?
[07:07] <Peggerrr> ubu waht uid does it have now
[07:07] <mirak> jrib: are you a bot ?
[07:07] <lyml> a bunch of zeros
[07:07] <jrib> mirak: no?
[07:08] <mirak> jrib: bad paste
[07:08] <Kuwabara_ss> alecjw, i have instaled that
[07:08] <auTONYmous> not much, just wondering what everyone else is using
[07:08] <lyml> and some text
[07:08] <ubu> Peggerrr: it has uid 1000
[07:08] <LjL> gean: if the sound needs to be synchronized with the slides, it's one thing, but if it doesn't, i would probably just hack a shell script
[07:08] <kjaer> lyml, No interfaces ?
[07:08] <alecjw> Kuwabara_ss: are you usre that the volumje in totem is at a reasonable level?
[07:08] <ubu> Peggerrr:ubu:x:1000:1000:ubu,,,:/home/ubu:/bin/bash
[07:08] <lyml> well: Inter-| sta-|   Quality        |   Discarded packets               | Missed | WE
[07:08] <lyml>  face | tus | link level noise |  nwid  crypt   frag  retry   misc | beacon | 20
[07:08] <lyml>   eth1: 0000    0.    0.    0.       0      0      0      0      0        0
[07:08] <eXistenZ> Where can I find information on how to set up a chroot env in ubuntu?
[07:08] <LjL> Ubotu, tell lyml about paste | lyml, see the private message from Ubotu
[07:08] <kjaer> LjL, 3 lines is okay .. ?
[07:08] <Zaggynl> jpjacobs, euh, it only shows a list of process ..numbers?
[07:09] <Kuwabara_ss> alecjw, how??
[07:09] <jrib> !chroot | eXistenZ
[07:09] <ubotu> eXistenZ: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[07:09] <LjL> Ubotu, tell eXistenZ about chroot | eXistenZ, see the private message from Ubotu
[07:09] <LjL> kjaer: no
[07:09] <eXistenZ> LjL, why 64bit box?
[07:09] <kjaer> lyml, Have you installed linux-restricted-modules ?
[07:09] <lyml> fresh install
[07:09] <hjmills> urgh - i hate netgear
[07:09] <LjL> eXistenZ: because that's the most common use for a chroot for ubuntu users, i suppose - running 32 bit applications on the 64 bit version
[07:09] <alecjw> Kuwabara_ss: actually, it doesnt have a volume control. are you able to have 2 appsplaying sound at once?
[07:10] <Zaggynl> ah
[07:10] <Peggerrr> ubu http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/pipermail/yellowdog-newbie/2003-April/002798.html
[07:10] <lyml> anything on this came with the cd
[07:10] <Zaggynl> 'sudo fuser -amv /' does the job <3
[07:10] <wheels3572> jrib, drwx------ 3 wheels wheels 4096 2006-07-23 10:24 /home/wheels/.gaim/logs/yahoo
[07:10] <abhinay> rhythmbox crashes several times in edgy , anybody having the same problem ?
[07:10] <eXistenZ> LjL, What about building packages?
[07:10] <Kuwabara_ss> alecjw, i resolved now...was my totem..now i open with mplayer and play...
[07:10] <kjaer> lyml, Great
[07:10] <Kuwabara_ss> alecjw, tanks
[07:10] <LjL> Ubotu, tell eXistenZ about pbuilder | eXistenZ, see the private message from Ubotu
[07:10] <kjaer> Then install the restricted modules for your kernel
[07:10] <wheels3572> jrib, I did chown before I did that directory paste to you
[07:11] <jrib> wheels3572: also fine.  Can you remind me what exactly happens?  Does gaim just refuse to log or does it not let you change the setting?
[07:11] <lyml> ok
[07:11] <abhinay> Iam getting this error this error when iam compiling rhythmbox : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/847/
[07:11] <lyml> what on earth is that :)
[07:11] <kjaer> sudo aptitude install install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[07:11] <abhinay> any suggestions ?
[07:11] <lyml> instead of uname i write my username?
[07:11] <Tonren> How do I get aptitude to list my currently installed packages?
[07:11] <LiteWait> hey all ! does anyone know that site that has a cute way of installing a bundle of stuff to play mp3, windows media, flash, etc?
[07:11] <Tonren> lyml: No, type that exactly as shown by kjaer
[07:11] <jrib> Tonren: aptitude search '~i'
[07:11] <kjaer> lyml, no. Try writing uname -r in a terminal.
[07:12] <Tonren> lyml: But without the second install.
[07:12] <RockClimber> what is the ubuntu policy with version updates, eg if ubuntu X ships with openoffice Y does the openoffice version get bumped in the updates or do you have to wait to upgrade the whole distro?
[07:12] <Kuwabara_ss> alecjw, i resolved the problem
[07:12] <Tonren> jrib: THanks.  Haha, now where the hell does it say that in the man page?
[07:12] <wheels3572> jrib, it just strictly refuses to log anything.
[07:12] <jrib> Tonren: also see http://people.debian.org/~dburrows/aptitude-doc/en/ch02s03.html
[07:12] <Kuwabara_ss> alecjw, tankyou very much
[07:12] <alecjw> Kuwabara_ss: no probs
[07:12] <eXistenZ> LjL, I don't want to build packages from sources, and so I want to build them on a chroot env.
[07:12] <kjaer> lyml, Figured it ?
[07:12] <lyml> yup
[07:12] <lyml> it says done over here
[07:13] <lyml> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[07:13] <LjL> eXistenZ: hm? if you don't want to "build them from source", than what do you mean by "build"?
[07:13] <kjaer> With a bit of luck it shows up if you type network-manager
[07:13] <jrib> Tonren: what if you temporarily rename ~/.gaim to ~/.gaim.backup  and start over?  Does it work?
[07:13] <Tonren> jrib: mistell?
[07:13] <eXistenZ> LjL, I mean that I want to download tarball sources, and build them into packages.
[07:13] <lyml> there is a network-admin though
[07:13] <jrib> wheels3572: what if you temporarily rename ~/.gaim to ~/.gaim.backup  and start over?  Does it work?
[07:13] <jrib> Tonren: thanks
[07:13] <daviey> How can i 'repair' a ubuntu installation?  I'm getting odd quirks.  Can i re-install over the top and not loose my /home folder (same partition as /)
[07:13] <Tonren> How do I tell XChat that Firefox is the browser I want it to open links in?
[07:14] <kjaer> lyml, But your wireless is not shown ?
[07:14] <lyml> yes
[07:14] <lyml> it is shown in it
[07:14] <jrib> Tonren: sudo update-alternatives x-www-browser   don't ask me about that documentation :P
[07:14] <kjaer> Can you configure it yourself from here ?
[07:14] <LjL> eXistenZ: err that's still from source... anyway, basically you want to create a binary package out of raw source while *skipping* the step of creating a source package?
[07:14] <lyml> well
[07:14] <lyml> point is, it is configured
[07:14] <jrib> Tonren: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser   don't ask me about that documentation :P
[07:14] <nullnvoid> !wireless
[07:14] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:14] <hjmills> hi - i have a problem - i want to learn to program quite quickly so i can create decent apps (pref gui) because if i do all the cli apps and build up to bigger apps i just get bored
[07:14] <subzero800> what command shows me what disks are on my system?
[07:15] <eXistenZ> LjL, What if there is no source package for the program I want?
[07:15] <wheels3572> jrib, Ummmm let me see
[07:15] <jrib> subzero800: sudo fdisk -l
[07:15] <LjL> hjmills: try #programming
[07:15] <Tonren> jrib: *THAT* will tell XChat to use Firefox?  Wow... well, thanks.  XD
[07:15] <hjmills> LjL: thanks
[07:15] <kjaer> subzero800, the harddrives or the mounted ones ?
[07:15] <lyml> i have entered my ssid name and my password
[07:15] <wheels3572> jrib, but I will tell you this.  someone said to use gksu gaim and I have been and THAT logs just fine.
[07:15] <daviey> Tonren, Settings -> Advanced -? URL handlers i belive
[07:15] <oxl> yes , i want xchat to opera instead of FF , too ..
[07:15] <kjaer> lyml, Tried putting it directyle in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[07:15] <lyml> as plain ascii though
[07:15] <oxl> ah ok
[07:15] <jrib> wheels3572: it logs to ~/.gaim/logs/ ?
[07:16] <kjaer> *directly.
[07:16] <LjL> eXistenZ: well normally you'd create one yourself, and *then* build it.  but, granted, there *are* (dirty) ways to just churn out a binary package directly (obviously, it shouldn't be redistributed), such as checkinstall... as for ways that work in a chroot, i'm not sure
[07:16] <wheels3572> gaim itself logs to $HOME/.gaim/logs
[07:16] <lyml> well it says the same thing
[07:16] <Tonren> daviey: That lets you add EXTRA ones, but it doesn't let you set the "Open link in browser" default
[07:16] <LjL> eXistenZ: i mean, checkinstall itself can probably run in a chroot, i don't know of a tutorial though
[07:16] <lyml> I entered the password as a asci text though
[07:16] <eXistenZ> LjL, Okay, thanks so much :-)
[07:16] <lyml> it is a wpa-psk network
[07:17] <ubu> Peggerrr:thanks
[07:17] <daviey> Tonren, no idea then.  sorry.  Maybe it is just using the default browser?
[07:17] <kjaer> lyml, wpa used to be a problem. But take a look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[07:17] <Tonren> Is there a way to speed up GDM?  Once I login, it takes a full 30 or 40 seconds for my desktop, icons, panels, panel icons, system tray and other panel icons to sluggishly appear, one by one.  Is this normal?
[07:18] <Tonren> daviey: S'ok.  I"m sure Firefox is the default thoughl.
[07:18] <rrittenhouse> Tonren, is it on a laptop?
[07:18] <Tonren> rrittenhouse: Yes
[07:19] <rrittenhouse> Tonren, I have the same problem.....
[07:19] <Vicky_> what if i install firefox 2 in ubuntu 6.06
[07:19] <Vicky_> is there any problem
[07:19] <eXistenZ> Is it possible to add some kind of 'tabs plugin' or extension for nautilus?
[07:19] <NoobieDoobieDo> Hi. I have 1.5 GHZ Intel / NVidia Ti4200 128MB -- My video is feeling really slugging even though I have the drivers installed ... thoughts ?
[07:19] <mats> Tonren: what if you drop the slashscreen, does it go any faster then?
[07:19] <Tonren> rrittenhouse: I've tweaked my boot sequence so that it only takes about 40-50 seconds to go from hitting the power button to typing in my username & password
[07:19] <Tonren> mats: "slashscreen"?
[07:19] <oxl> Tonnen ..me too ;-)
[07:19] <Jowi> Tonren try replacing gnome with something else, like e17
[07:20] <LjL> eXistenZ: here is a generic chroot tutorial, https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/appendix-chroot.html , and here https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/packagingguide/ru/basic-scratch.html is a packaging tutorial making you use chroot (fakeroot). it *does* include the step of building a source package out of your tarball though
[07:20] <hjmills> Tonren: i think mats means splashscreen
[07:20] <oxl> Want to have opera as default
[07:20] <seanb> mats: what does glxgears give you?
[07:20] <rrittenhouse> Tonren, im thinking about xfce for mine though (for the laptop)
[07:20] <Tonren> rrittenhouse: But it's still kind of silly, because if I boot into Windows, it's just 30 seconds from hitting the power button to opening my programs.
[07:20] <Tonren> hjmills: Good call.
[07:20] <Tonren> mats: You mean removing "splash" from the boot sequence?  Or ...?
[07:20] <Tonren> Jowi: I didn't know that was possible.  Do I really want to go about changing my display manager?
[07:20] <mats> Tonren: try removing the splash
[07:21] <mats> Tonren: right ;)
[07:21] <mats> Tonren: i dont know - ;)
[07:21] <Hotkey> Newbie alert - hi - how can I get WPA added to wirelss network properties in 6.06?
[07:21] <Tonren> mats: ... what?
[07:21] <jpjacobs> NoobieDoobieDo, does lsmod|grep nvidia return something?
[07:21] <kjaer> Tonren, But can  you start programs after 30 secs of boot time ?
[07:21] <kjaer> Or do you have to wait 30 more before they launch ?
[07:21] <lyml> hmm, in this guide, it says there is a network manager icon in the gnome panel, I'm assuming the gnome panel is the thing that resembles the quick tray in windows, there is a speaker there with which i can change the sound and a date and time right next to it, but no three little dots like my guide here says
[07:21] <Tonren> kjaer: In Windows, yes.  In Linux, no.
[07:22] <NoobieDoobieDo> jpjacobs: yup. i get the nvidia splash screen and everything.
[07:22] <Tonren> kjaer: I'm sure it's unfair because this laptop was built for Windows, but still.  30 seconds vs. 90 - 120 seconds is a big difference.
[07:22] <kjaer> Tonren, empty the desktop, remove a lot of the background daemons.
[07:22] <Jowi> Tonren, something that looks different and behaves a bit different from gnome is e17. XFCE is quite close to gnome but alot lighter. install xubuntu-desktop, logout, change session to xfce and try it. you can always remove xfce if you do not like it.
[07:22] <NoobieDoobieDo> nvidia               4552692  12 ---- i2c_core               22848  2 i2c_acpi_ec,nvidia ---- agpgart                36784  2 nvidia,intel_agp
[07:22] <Jowi> !xubuntu
[07:22] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[07:22] <osfameron> Tonren, kjaer: depends, sometimes on my laptop ubuntu dapper hangs for a long time before opening processes
[07:22] <Tonren> Jowi: I've tried Xfce, fluxbox, KDE, etc.  GNOME is my favorite.
[07:22] <osfameron> Tonren, kjaer: I usually just restart the windows manager, seems to give it a kick.
[07:23] <Jowi> Tonren, nice that you found one you're satisfied with :)
[07:23] <NoobieDoobieDo> I really thought installing the drivers would help. But it feels almost exactly the same. I play 3d FPS with this video card no problem - it should run the gnome :|
[07:23] <Wimpog> Folks, how do I enable ip forwarding automatically on system startup??? Manually I do that:
[07:23] <Wimpog> echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[07:23] <kjaer> Tonren, You may also edit the sleep time in some of the init scripts
[07:23] <Tonren> Jowi: Thanks.  I keep threatening to switch to KDE, but it's been too much of a hassle and it seems more bloated.  I liked Xfce, but it was just a little too feature-thin for me.
[07:23] <kjaer> There is a lot of tweaking to do :)
[07:24] <marcus_> Is there a way to change rhe default icons in gnome without recompiling it?
[07:24] <Tonren> kjaer: I've already removed every extraneous background daemon I could find, even broke my bootup a few times in my zeal to increase speed.  WHat do you mean by "empty the desktop"?  Also, are there GDM-specific startup daemons that wouldn't appear in my boot up manager list?
[07:24] <jrib> marcus_: use your own icon theme
[07:24] <Jowi> Tonren, i know what you mean.
[07:24] <Jowi> brb
[07:24] <hjmills> Wimpog: add that to a startup script?
[07:25] <kjaer> Tonren, If it is a single user system, remove gdm and auto login the user
[07:25] <Hotkey> How can I get WPA added to wireless network properties in 6.06? Only WEP listed.
[07:25] <Wimpog> hjmills: do you know how? I'm not to familiar with "startup scripts"
[07:25] <Tonren> kjaer: But I like my login screen.  It's pretty.  :(
[07:25] <marcus_> jrib: Are they that complex?
[07:25] <hjmills> Tonren: you could try using initNG
[07:25] <Apelstrudel|AFK> Hi
[07:25] <Wimpog> hjmills: which startup script?
[07:25] <Tonren> kjaer: I think I mis-spoke.  It's not GDM that's slow - it's not the login screen that's slow.  It's GNOME itself, once I log in.
[07:25] <hjmills> Wimpog: afraid not - think if you google /etc/init.d/rc.local it may help
[07:26] <Apelstrudel|AFK> Anyone here who can help me with Ubuntu Dapper & RT2500 Chipset Wireless Card ?
[07:26] <marcus_> jrib: I mean can I have a certain type of file show up with a certain icon all the time?
[07:26] <Tonren> hjmills: I thought there were only two main bootup schemes, initNG and upstart, and initNG is the Ubuntu default?  (I could be horribly wrong.)
[07:26] <jrib> marcus_: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials/IconThemes  There are also plenty already made ones at gnome-look.org and art.gnome.org
[07:26] <hjmills> Tonren: no upstart is the ubuntu default and is meant to be faster than the old init but initNG is another "faster init" project
[07:27] <marcus_> jrib: okay. one more question: I am assuming to change the icons used within a program I would have to recompile it true?
[07:27] <jrib> marcus_: yes, easiest way would be to either just copy your existing theme and modify it, then place it in ~/.themes.  Or you can create your own custom one with your private icons and have it inherit the theme you current use
[07:27] <Tonren> hjmills: I see.  I might look into it, but at this point, it isn't my *boot-up* process that's slow anymore.  It's GNOME.
[07:27] <hjmills> Tonren: try another WM?
[07:27] <jrib> marcus_: depends on the program I guess
[07:27] <hjmills> Tonren: whats ure pc specs?
[07:27] <marcus_> jrib: Thanks.
[07:28] <Tonren> hjmills: I'm rather attached to GNOME.  I've tried fluxbox, blackbox, Xfce and KDE and GNOME is my favorite.
[07:28] <hjmills> Tonren: then im afraid you are stuck with the overhear
[07:28] <hjmills> s/overhear/overhead
[07:28] <Tonren> hjmills: AMD Turion 64 1.8GHz (I'm using the 32-bit packages though), 768 megs of RAM.
[07:28] <b08y> hi folks, some has exp with beryl ?? is it worth to install, is it realy smooth, and what happen if the cpu gets 100% load? doest lag even more or less, cause the Videocard takes more load.?
[07:28] <LjL> Ubotu, tell b08y about beryl | b08y, see the private message from Ubotu
[07:29] <hjmills> Tonren: try installing openbox and running openbox --replace when in gnome - see if thats faster
[07:29] <Tonren> hjmills: It just confuses me that I can come out of Windows hibernate in 30 seconds, but it takes a full two or three minutes to start working in Linux.
[07:29] <jrib> b08y: of course it uses more resources.  Whether you'll notice, depends on what plugins you use and what kind of system you have
[07:29] <Tonren> hjmills: Is openbox like fluxbox or blackbox?  I didn't like them too much.
[07:29] <mojojojo__> Tonren, Gnoe is cool.. but what it lacks, for me, is that it is quite weak when it comes to defining keyboard shortcuts
[07:29] <Tonren> mojojojo__: I just use xbindkeys.
[07:29] <hjmills> Tonren: windows loads the system services on login - linux loads em on boot
[07:29] <gean> jrib: wow, it looks like being inside latex! the first try to set it work failed, Error message: [ ! LaTeX Error: File `ifdraft.sty' not found. ]  // I must install something like MikTex or TeXLive, where some supplementary packages are available, as ifdraft, i suppose... However: The doc'n pretends more then i ever suspected INSIDE a latex environment! Thanks a lot for the hint!
[07:29] <hjmills> Tonren: if u run it from within gnome u get gnome with a faster window manager
[07:29] <mojojojo__> Tonren, never heard, I'll check it :)
[07:29] <Tonren> hjmills: I know, but like I've been saying - my Linux boot process only takes about 30 seconds.  Why does GNOME take another 60 - 90?
[07:30] <pike_> b08y: might try #ubuntu-xgl  as well if you have questions
[07:30] <Tonren> mojojojo__: If you can't figure out how to set it up, feel free to IM me and I'll help you out.
[07:30] <hjmills> Tonren: because your system is slow and you are loading a lot of programs?
[07:30] <Tonren> mojojojo__: I'm usually on AIM as whiteguyfromny.
[07:30] <jrib> gean: what did you end up using? beamer or that other thing?
[07:30] <kernelsensei> hi there
[07:30] <Tonren> hjmills: I'm not, though.  I load glipper, nm-applet, volume-manager, power-manager, xbindkeys and wifi-radar.  That's it.
[07:30] <mojojojo__> thx :)
[07:30] <hjmills> Tonren: do you have enough ram? - if the boot process uses it up then gnome may be slow
[07:31] <hjmills> Tonren: why nm-applet and wifi-radar? Dont they both do the same thing?
[07:31] <secureboot_> anyone know how to preseed keyboard layout?
[07:31] <Tonren> hjmills: Now THAT'S an idea.  768 is a lot, though.
[07:31] <secureboot_> the breezy manual seems to indicate that this is not possible
[07:31] <secureboot_> but edgy examples seems to indicate that it is
[07:31] <hjmills> Tonren: you shouldnt have probs with 768 - swap space ok?
[07:31] <Tonren> hjmills: nm-applet can't/won't detect my wireless, and no one could help me figure it out, so I have to use wifi-radar (or the command line, which I sometimes do.)
[07:31] <Tonren> hjmills: 512 megs of swap.
[07:32] <hjmills> Tonren: then get rid of nm-applet if its useless - save those precious clock cycles
[07:32] <secureboot_> i've tried d-i console-setup/layoutcode string us as recommended here: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/preseed-contents.html
[07:32] <secureboot_> but I still get asked those questions on boot
[07:32] <Tonren> hjmills: Yeah, but nm-applet works for wired internet.
[07:32] <LjL> Tonren: (you should make swap at least as much of your RAM, for things like hibernation to work. then you might not care, but still)
[07:32] <jmibanez> Tonren: what's your wifi card's chipset?
[07:32] <hjmills> Tonren: oh ok - cant u use the gnome default one?
[07:32] <Tonren> jmibanez: The infamous Broadcom 4318.
[07:32] <jmibanez> Tonren: just curious
[07:32] <jmibanez> Tonren: ah.
[07:33] <Tonren> jmibanez: I'm not using ndiswrapper though - I've been using cafuego's firmware.
[07:33] <hjmills> Tonren: you prob wanna triple your swap if u can
[07:33] <Tonren> hjmills: Isn't nm-applet the gnome default?
[07:33] <hotti> where could i find a decent howto to get flash and java working with firefox in ubuntu amd64?
[07:33] <Tonren> hjmills: That's an interesting idea.  I haven' tthought about that.
[07:33] <hjmills> !flash | hotti
[07:33] <ubotu> hotti: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:33] <Tonren> hotti: Are you heavily attached to amd64?  I have AMD64 but I'm running 32-bit Ubuntu, and it runs fine.
[07:33] <hjmills> !java | hotti
[07:33] <ubotu> hotti: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[07:34] <hjmills> !64bit | hotti
[07:34] <ubotu> hotti: AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[07:34] <Slart> but flash on AMD64 is horrible.. and then some
[07:34] <daviey> Tonren, no idea then.  sorry.  Maybe it is just using the default browser?
[07:34] <daviey> Tonren, sorry, wrong copy and paste
[07:34] <Tonren> daviey: Huh?
[07:34] <Tonren> daviey: lol, k
[07:34] <jmibanez> Tonren: iirc, nm-applet (or rather, NetworkManager) works with WiFi cards that support and can be configured through the linux wireless extensions
[07:35] <Tonren> hjmills: This is all rooted in my original stupid problem.  You see, if I set auto eth0 and auto eth1 (wired and wireless, respectively) in /etc/network/interfaces, my boot-up process hangs for over 5 minutes, trying to connect to wired and THEN wireless.
[07:35] <rogue780> I'm trying to share a folder on my desktop, but it keeps saying "The configuration could not be loaded, you are not allowed to access the system configuration." how to I fix this?
[07:35] <daviey> How can i 'repair' a ubuntu installation?  I'm getting odd quirks.  Can i re-install over the top and not loose my /home folder (same partition as /)
[07:35] <Tonren> hjmills: I've bitched and moaned to everyone I can find about how stupid it is that Linux can't check to see if there are available wireless netowrks, or even a freakin' cable plugged into the ethernet, but no one seems to know how to fix it.
[07:35] <Rookie-1> !rtorrent
[07:35] <jfil> http://ingtel.100webspace.net
[07:35] <ubotu> rtorrent: ncurses BitTorrent client based on LibTorrent. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.3-1 (edgy), package size 232 kB, installed size 636 kB
[07:35] <kernelsensei> I'm helping a friend with his ubuntu dapper, he has a very weird problem, the CD/DVD drive isn't detected, the ide-cd module is loaded but /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/info is empty
[07:35] <Tonren> hjmills: Windows can do it.  I don't see why Linux can't, but apparently, it can't.
[07:35] <hjmills> daviey: thats why you use 2 partitions
[07:35] <jmibanez> Tonren: it's basically a driver problem -- i have nm-applet working fine here
[07:36] <rogue780> I'm trying to share a folder on my desktop, but it keeps saying "The configuration could not be loaded, you are not allowed to access the system configuration." how to I fix this?
[07:36] <hjmills> Tonren: hmm - my laptop manages it im sure - unless i disabled the eth0 as i never plug in enough
[07:36] <rogue780> I'm trying to make a samba share
[07:36] <jmibanez> Tonren: although i can't use nm-applet to configure an adhoc wifi net, seeing as i'm using an atheros chipset
[07:36] <Tonren> jmibanez: Mine has a little "x".  There isn't even an option to configure it!
[07:36] <pike_> Tonren: it would be fairly easy to write a script to do that
[07:36] <osfameron> yeah, nm-manager sucks when it doesn't magically work
[07:36] <daviey> hjmills, abd thats why ubuntu configures /home on a seperate patition out of the box?
[07:36] <BenFP> i am on the ati webpage... i supose if i an using ubuntu i select linux 86 for the OS?? right?
[07:36] <osfameron> there's no way to convince it to do anytjhing at all
[07:36] <Tonren> pike_: To make a smart wired/wireless bootup process?
[07:36] <jmibanez> Tonren: could you send me a screenshot? i'm curious... just that bit
[07:37] <Tonren> jmibanez: Which bit, specifically?
[07:37] <hjmills> daviey: does it? i just know it was always recommended
[07:37] <daviey> hjmills, sarcasim
[07:37] <jmibanez> Tonren: the "has only X" bit
[07:37] <auTONYmous> "Windows Can Do It....if we had a dollar for every time that's been said
[07:37] <Tonren> osfameron: I've actually been configuring my network via the command line for almost a year.
[07:37] <hjmills> daviey: sorry - i aint done an install for a while but it looks like i may need to do one later
[07:37] <Tonren> osfameron: My boot up process takes 5 minutes if I let it configure itself, and the GUIs have NEVER worked well for me.
[07:37] <osfameron> Tonren: yeah, me too.  But I got tired of wirelss making me cry in frustration every time I went to a new place.
[07:37] <ghatak> i cant seem to be able to install libexpect-perl << apt-get install says not found from any source, help....!
[07:37] <jmibanez> Tonren: how have you been configuring it via command line?
[07:38] <Tonren> osfameron: jmibanez: In fact, I can't use the GUIs because they all take over /etc/network/interfaces by adding "auto eth0" and "auto eth1", forcing my bootup to hang for 5 minutes.
[07:38] <kernelsensei> any idea for my cd/dvd drive issue ?
[07:38] <BenFP> i am on the ati webpage... i supose if i an using ubuntu i select linux 86 for the OS?? right?
[07:38] <Tonren> jmibanez: Using sudo ifconfig, iwconfig, dhclient.
[07:38] <jmibanez> hrm...
[07:38] <LjL> ghatak: do you have universe enabled?
[07:38] <osfameron> Tonren: there's nothing like the sight of a 30something geek cursing in tears for an hour to make you realise that computers could really do with being just a little friendlier sometimes
[07:38] <auTONYmous> Tonren: what's your wireless chipset?
[07:38] <Tonren> osfameron: I started to get the hang of it, so it's not too bad now.
[07:38] <ghatak> Ummm not sure, let me check
[07:38] <LjL> Ubotu, tell ghatak about universe | ghatak, see the private message from Ubotu
[07:38] <Tonren> auTONYmous: The infamous Broadcom 4318.
[07:38] <auTONYmous> ah...
[07:38] <osfameron> Tonren: yeah, when it's just sudo ifup eth0, sudo dhclient eth0, I'm happy as larry
[07:39] <Tonren> osfameron: I wrote a script to make my wireless work
[07:39] <jmibanez> Tonren: ok... if you don't mind, could you paste the contents of /var/log/daemon.log to pastebin -- please make sure you strip out private info
[07:39] <Hotkey> How can I get WPA added to wirelss network properties in 6.06?
[07:39] <osfameron> Tonren: but really, every time I went to a place with a different wireless setup, it hurt.
[07:39] <Jaak_> i am having trouble with automounting of cd's and usb devices.... i don't understand, it found it might be a kernel bug... but i don;t know how to fix it, can anyone help me?
[07:39] <Tonren> jmibanez: Oh snap.  I never knew about that file.
[07:39] <Tonren> jmibanez: What does it log, exactly?
[07:39] <jmibanez> Tonren: btw, i don't use the GUI (network-admin) as i've been using NetworkManager for some time, and it seems that it works for me :)
[07:40] <Tonren> jmibanez: Literally NONE of the GUIs work for me.
[07:40] <auTONYmous> same here...nm-applet works a treat (though I have a IPW2200...)
[07:40] <Tonren> jmibanez: I can't use NetworkManager because it just doesn't work.  I can't use network-admin because it's slow and doesn't work.  I can't use wifi-radar because it hijacks /etc/network/interfaces and makes my boot hang.
[07:40] <osfameron> yeah, with nm-manager, I can even usa WPA stuff
[07:40] <jmibanez> Tonren: basically if a daemon logs something via syslog, and it doesn't go through messages, then it should come up there (for most daemons, i believe, someone correct me)
[07:40] <hjmills> Tonren & jmibanez: i always found that wifi roaming on linux was a hole in the head
[07:40] <osfameron> wifi-radar worked really well for me for 4 months, then just stopped working with random python errors
[07:40] <jmibanez> Tonren: NetworkManager should be logging messages there (/var/log/daemon.log)
[07:41] <Tonren> jmibanez: I see them.  I'll Pastebin in a sec
[07:41] <Tonren> jmibanez: You've never seen NetworkManager with the little x?
[07:41] <BenFP> if i am using Ubuntu and i am looking for drivers i select the linux 86 OS right?? not windows drivers... i need the linux drivers right?
[07:41] <jmibanez> hjmills: hmm... maybe a case of YMMV? i haven't any problems with NetworkManager + roaming
[07:41] <jmibanez> Tonren: nope.
[07:41] <jmibanez> must be lucky. *shrug* :)
[07:41] <hjmills> jmibanez: last time i tried it was loading 6 nm-applets each boot and they slowly grew
[07:41] <LjL> BenFP: ...? drivers for what?
[07:41] <jmibanez> (then again, i'm a masochist. i've previously run slackware :P)
[07:42] <Tonren> jmibanez: http://rafb.net/p/xrxtoQ45.html
[07:42] <jmibanez> Tonren: ok
[07:42] <Tonren> osfameron: Like I said... I've just been using the command line.
[07:42] <BenFP> for my video crad.. i am on ATI webpage and it is asking the OS for the driver... i select linux 86 right?
[07:42] <jmibanez> Tonren: there's your problem in the last lines --
[07:42] <shack> any idea what port is amsn using?
[07:42] <Tonren> Wireless roaming has worked for me, usually, with this script: sudo ifconfig eth0 down; sudo ifconfig eth1 up; sudo iwconfig eth1 essid any; sudo iwconfig eth1 ap any; sudo dhclient -1 eth1;
[07:43] <jmibanez> Tonren: the NetworkManager DBUS service couldn't be started (and as a regular user, you can't i believe run it)
[07:43] <BenFP> i don'T have a 64 bit processor so i just stick with linux 86 not the linux 86X64
[07:43] <shack> my firewall is blocking amsn so i should open this port
[07:43] <Tonren> jmibanez: So what should I do?
[07:43] <jmibanez> Tonren: try this -- and make sure you have a tail of /var/log/daemon.log in a term somewhere
[07:43] <ghatak> !EasySource
[07:43] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:43] <LjL> shack: no, but try netstat --program --listening
[07:43] <hjmills> what codecs dont work on 64bit?
[07:43] <Tonren> hjmills: What codecs DO work on 64bit?
[07:44] <hjmills> Tonren: well im sure i got some going...i think....
[07:44] <jmibanez> Tonren: first, check out if NetworkManager is properly installed (i.e. DBUS sees it) -- do 'ls /etc/dbus-1/event.d
[07:44] <Tonren> hjmills: I gave up on 64bit almost immediately.
[07:44] <jmibanez> Tonren: it should be listed as 25NetworkManager, and executable
[07:44] <Tonren> 22dhcdbd  25NetworkManager  70system-tools-backends
[07:44] <jmibanez> Tonren: there should also be an entry for NetworkManagerDispatcher
[07:44] <LjL> BenFP, what about you just use the drivers supplied with Ubuntu rather than break your system by installing such sensitive stuff manually, when you don't even know if you need the Windows or the Linux flavor? ;-)
[07:44] <Tonren> jmibanez: On a slightly tangential note, should I have avahi-daemon installed if I'm not a server?
[07:45] <LjL> Ubotu, tell BenFP about ati | BenFP, see the private message from Ubotu
[07:45] <Tonren> jmibanez: Beat me to it.  20hal     25avahi-daemon    26NetworkManagerDispatcher
[07:45] <Coweater`> unsure
[07:45] <jmibanez> Tonren: well, IIRC, no, not really. YMMV, and I *may* be wrong :) i have it, but i only grabbed it (avahi-daemon) relatively recently, and i haven't been having problems without it *shrug*
[07:46] <theaverageidiot> does anyone know how to change the resolution and color in cedega? i have a game that needs 640x480 with 256 colors
[07:46] <jmibanez> Tonren: ok, do this : 'sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart'
[07:46] <jmibanez> Tonren: but wait,
[07:46] <Tonren> jmibanez: I tried to do "sudo aptitude remove avahi-daemon" and it tried to uninstall gnome-desktop, so I gave up on trying to remove it.
[07:46] <jmibanez> Tonren: are you using Gnome?
[07:46] <Tonren> jmibanez: Yes.
[07:46] <jor> Ubuntu is supposed to have an 'admin' group (in /etc/groups)?
[07:46] <jmibanez> Tonren: because you might want to log out first... do that in a console
[07:46] <BenFP> it doesn't have my card in that list on the ubuntu webpage... it's too recent i guess?
[07:46] <hjmills> theaverageidiot: run it in windowed mode or change the res normally in gnome
[07:46] <jmibanez> Tonren: it might mess things a bit up
[07:47] <theaverageidiot> the game doesn't let me change it ingame
[07:47] <theaverageidiot> I'll try windowed
[07:47] <LjL> theaverageidiot: i don't use or have cedega, but my guess is it'll do that automatically, once you have that resolution *listed in xorg.conf*.  try a "grep 640 /etc/X11/xorg.conf"; if it's not there, you could probably run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to add it
[07:47] <theaverageidiot> but what about color?
[07:47] <Tony_> YEAH! IT WORKED! FINALLY!! WOOHOO!! ..so now you know..
[07:47] <Tonren> jmibanez: What is dbus, exactly?
[07:47] <pike_> jor: unless something has changed yes. admin should be the group with rights in /etc/sudoers
[07:47] <jmibanez> Tonren: dbus is an IPC bus -- inter-process communication
[07:47] <konam>  check this: http://digg.com/linux_unix/New_OFFICIAL_Ubuntu_package_auto_installs_codecs_Flash_Java_MS_Fonts
[07:47] <theaverageidiot>  grep 640 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:47] <theaverageidiot>                 Modes    "1920x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[07:47] <jor> pike_: any idea which package should configure/add that group?
[07:47] <hjmills> theaverageidiot: i meant change the res to 640x480 in gnome - tho my games auto scale down
[07:47] <jmibanez> Tonren: it's a freedesktop.org project/standard for allowing applications to communicate with each other
[07:47] <konam> what's next? make an comercial edition by PAY :)
[07:47] <jmibanez> Tonren: NetworkManager is a DBUS service
[07:48] <nullnvoid> no one to help with wpa?
[07:48] <laz0r> hi, i am wondering what the 'right way' to configure the wpa_supplicant startup under ubuntu
[07:48] <Tonren> jmibanez: Interesting.
[07:48] <pike_> jor: you have sudo access right now? if so it should be configured
[07:48] <jmibanez> Tonren: which means that it's launched with DBUS
[07:48] <jmibanez> Tonren: nm-applet needs NetworkManager
[07:48] <jmibanez> Tonren: and it communicates with it via dbus
[07:48] <jor> pike_: nope I don't. there is no admin group :)
[07:48] <LjL> theaverageidiot: ok then that shouldn't be the culprit (unless it's only listed for some color depth that you aren't using, but i think that's unlikely)
[07:48] <Tonren> jmibanez: nm-applet refers, specifically, exclusivley, to the system tray icon applet?
[07:48] <jmibanez> Tonren: i could point you to the webpage actually :D
[07:48] <auTONYmous> Tonren: yep.
[07:48] <jmibanez> Tonren: basically
[07:49] <theaverageidiot> I tried setting gnome to 640x480 and that didn't work and setting the game to windowed 640x480 doesn't work either
[07:49] <theaverageidiot> I think it's the color
[07:49] <jmibanez> Tonren: nm-applet's a NetworkManager "client"/interface
[07:49] <theaverageidiot> how do I change my color to 256
[07:49] <laz0r> there is no init script, but some script in /etc/network/if-pre-up.d and i think i'll have to create some file in /etc/default or something
[07:49] <Tonren> jmibanez: OK.  Maybe I should kill wifi-radar so it doesn't hijack the network interfaces from NetworkManager.
[07:49] <jmibanez> Tonren: there's one for KDE, i believe... someone correct me if i'm wrong
[07:49] <jmibanez> Tonren: please do :)
[07:49] <jmibanez> Tonren: oh, and could you paste your /etc/network/interfaces ?
[07:49] <jmibanez> Tonren: pastebin of course :) thanks :)
[07:50] <pike_> jor: i dont know about a package but all you do really is add the group admin; edit /etc/group and put your username end of admin grp then edit /etc/sudoers and there should be a commented out entry for root at least just copy that for admin
[07:50] <BenFP> guess i should bring my x1950 video card back to the store...
[07:50] <theaverageidiot> this explains my problem better: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=334106 (I made that post)
[07:50] <auTONYmous> Tonren: I had to exclusively use Network Manager in order to get everything working right
[07:50] <auTONYmous> Tonren: also, I think NM needs the interfaces set up as "auto" in /etc/network/interfaces
[07:50] <pike_> jor: there is probably a guide you might want to google for its pretty standard across all *nix's
[07:50] <jmibanez> bah...
[07:50] <jor> pike_: I would think that was configured in base-passwd package, and the update-passwd should 'sync' it. But I guess ubuntu configures this stuff somewher else :/ I'll do it manually
[07:50] <jmibanez> i got so used to hitting ^R to search backwards. grr.
[07:51] <rogue780> the volume controller next to the time/date went away one day and has never come back. any suggestions on how to get it back, or why it disappeared?
[07:51] <jmibanez> auTONYmous: no, not really :)
[07:51] <pike_> jor: im no debian vet sorry dont know which it would be
[07:51] <jmibanez> auTONYmous: in fact -- what works for me -- is having *no* entries for interfaces i want to manage via NetworkManager
[07:52] <auTONYmous> In my case, it worked better that way (but I switch between two different wired, and four different wireless...)
[07:52] <jmibanez> Tonren: at least in my /etc/network/interfaces -- i don't have entries for any network interfaces i want to manage via NetworkManager (i.e. no auto or iface lines)
[07:52] <auTONYmous> ok
[07:53] <jmibanez> the only entry i have there at the moment is lo :)
[07:53] <LjL> theaverageidiot: uhm, i think you need to restart X to change the color depth (besides having it enabled in xorg.conf). can be annoying i suppose, but: in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, you should have Subsection "Display", followed by a Depth, and then modes. create a new subsection like that, but change the depth to 8. then change the line saying DefaultDepth to 8 as well, and restart X -- you will have to change DefaultDepth back to 24 (i suppose
[07:53] <LjL> it's 24) and restart X again when you're finished playing.
[07:53] <Stormx2> Boy, samba is confusing!
[07:53] <krang> anyone know why this: echo "\n"      just prints the character n? I tried it with single and no qutoes too, same result
[07:53] <LjL> krang: echo -e "\n"
[07:53] <oxigen> hi, soon i'll get new pc, intel pentium d945 3.4GHz with 2Gb ram. what iso should i download for this cpu?
[07:54] <LjL> krang: besides, echo puts a \n at end of line by default ;-)
[07:54] <fdoving> krang: you're missing -e
[07:54] <jmibanez> Tonren: ? :)
[07:54] <Tonren> jmibanez: Didn't work.
[07:54] <jmibanez> Tonren: could you send /var/log/daemon.log again? :)
[07:54] <Tonren> jmibanez: I had to connect via command line
[07:54] <LinAsH> oxigen, i386-desktop
[07:54] <jmibanez> Tonren: btw, you wouldn't happen to have your wifi interface in /etc/network/interfaces?
[07:54] <oxigen> LinAsH: hmm, this cpu is 64 bit
[07:55] <hjmills> where can i download fiesty images from?
[07:55] <krang> LjL, fdoving: whoops, how dyslexic of me, I thought you had to include the -e to avoid having those evaluted. Thanks :-)
[07:55] <Tonren> jmibanez: Here's my /etc/network/interfaces: http://rafb.net/p/a0jPgF89.html
[07:55] <Nwallin1> Hi, how do install gnome desktop on ubuntu server?  i read online to install gnome-core, but this pkg isn't avail on 6.10
[07:55] <jmibanez> Tonren: is eth1 your wifi card?
[07:55] <LinAsH> oxigen, the 64 bits version is very tiring to get all working
[07:55] <Tonren> jmibanez: Yeah
[07:56] <Tonren> jmibanez: http://rafb.net/p/GNe2vD69.html There's /var/log/daemon.log
[07:56] <jmibanez> Tonren: try this -- restart dbus, but comment out all of the lines in /etc/network/interfaces, except the ones referring to lo (localhost)
[07:56] <jmibanez> Tonren: that is, leave the first two lines
[07:56] <Tonren> jmibanez: That's hardcore.
[07:56] <jmibanez> Tonren: make sure you comment them before restarting dbus ! :)
[07:57] <oxigen> LinAsH: so only 32bit... :(
[07:57] <jmibanez> Tonren: trust me :)
[07:57] <LinAsH> oxigen, and very few gain with 64 bits (like 2-3%)
[07:57] <Tonren> jmibanez: OK, here we go again
[07:57] <jmibanez> Tonren: if you want to take it a step at a time, just comment out the block referring to your wifi card :)
[07:58] <knight> hello all
[07:58] <knight> I HAVE  installed ubuntu server dapper
[07:58] <knight> with lamp
[07:58] <oxigen> LinAsH: if i install 64 bit kernel anyway, then can run only 64 bit applications on it? is it so?
[07:59] <knight> I am trying to ftp some html code to my server
[07:59] <pike_> !chroot | oxigen
[07:59] <ubotu> oxigen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[07:59] <Tony_> ok i could use some help.. The problem is that i can not boot ubuntu, because X crashes n boot, leaving me with absolutly no command lines. I can boot from a live CD though, but then I do not have acces to my *real* ubuntu installation.. Is it just to mount the partition and change the x11.conf? or is it a more fancy wa of doing it?
[07:59] <HarryR> oxigen, if you install a 64-bit kernel then you can run both 32-bit and 64-bit applications (whereas with a 32-bit kernel you can only run 32-bit apps)
[07:59] <Nwallin1> what package provides full gnome desktop?
[07:59] <knight> anybody can halp me
[07:59] <oxigen> thanks guys!
[08:00] <knight> I want to ftp html codes to my ubuntu server
[08:00] <HarryR> oxigen, most system utils are going to be running in 32-bit mode, and using a 64-bit kernel is only so you can take advantage of some of the nice advantages (like native 64-bit ints)
[08:00] <auTONYmous> knight: you have a LAMP server, but did you install an FTP server?
[08:00] <Tonren> jmibanez: http://rafb.net/p/hajwD629.html
[08:00] <knight> No I didnot
[08:00] <Nwallin1> anyone know what package to install on ubuntu server to get gnome desktop?
[08:00] <knight> which one isgood
[08:00] <knight> for thatn
[08:01] <magic_ninja> bunnies
[08:01] <jmibanez> Tonren: is nm-applet started up?
[08:01] <oxigen> HarryR: yes, i want to use 64 bit blender (when will be ready)
[08:01] <jmibanez> Tonren: so i take it it didn't work?
[08:01] <Tonren> jmibanez: Yeah, but it didn't work.
[08:01] <juano_> Nwallin1: gdm?
[08:01] <knight> hey autonymous
[08:01] <auTONYmous> knight: sudo apt-get install proftpd
[08:01] <Tonren> jmibanez: The new daemon.log is int eh pastebin I just sent
[08:01] <knight> which one can I select for ftp server
[08:01] <jmibanez> Tonren: looking at your log, it seems the devices are already being managed
[08:01] <pike_> knight: id recommend just openssh-server then use sftp
[08:01] <sleepy745> how do I turn on compiz when it's installed
[08:02] <Tonren> jmibanez: bcm43xx is cafuego's kernel firmware.
[08:02] <jmibanez> Tonren: 9 and 14
[08:02] <Tonren> jmibanez: Like I mentioned before, I don't use ndiswrapper.
[08:02] <LinAsH> oxigen, see http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=616&num=1# for a performance test
[08:02] <auTONYmous> pike_: me too, but then that requires a whole host of tuts on sftp clients, etc.
[08:02] <knight> sftp
[08:02] <Tonren> jmibanez: But bcm43xx doesn't "manage" it in terms of configuring it.  It's just the firmware.  I'm perplexed.
[08:02] <jmibanez> Tonren: lines 9 and 14 tell me that NetworkManager is managing the eth0 and eth1 interfaces
[08:02] <knight> ?/////
[08:02] <auTONYmous> pike_: so I kept it simple for him
[08:02] <Tonren> jmibanez: Ah, ok
[08:03] <Tonren> jmibanez: But look: It doesn't actually connect.  It says "There are no wireless networks stored."
[08:03] <rogue780> the volume controller next to the time/date went away one day and has never come back. any suggestions on how to get it back, or why it disappeared?
[08:03] <jmibanez> Tonren: that just means there aren't any in its cached lists
[08:03] <Tonren> jmibanez: Ok.  Why isn't it searching for new ones?  Can we tell?
[08:03] <jmibanez> Tonren: try this... and i hope you still trust me :)
[08:03] <auTONYmous> jmibanez: doesn't he need to "add a new network" in nm-applet?
[08:03] <knight> oh ok
[08:03] <oxigen> LinAsH: i hope you understand that i want to try 64 bit kernel on my new 64 bit cpu... thanks for links and info!
[08:03] <Tonren> jmibanez: Hey, you seem to be doin' your best.
[08:03] <jmibanez> auTONYmous: that'd work too
[08:03] <Tonren> auTONYmous: jmibanez: Wait, wait wait
[08:03] <jmibanez> Tonren: i try :)
[08:04] <jmibanez> Tonren: how did you connect now?
[08:04] <Tonren> auTONYmous: jmibanez: "Add a New Network"?  nm-applet doesn't HAVE a configuration interface, for me.
[08:04] <Tonren> jmibanez: Like I usually do - sudo dhclient -1 eth1
[08:04] <jmibanez> Tonren: ah...
[08:04] <insane_alien> aha!
[08:05] <jmibanez> Tonren: so i take it the icon for nm-applet looks like two computers with an 'x' on it?
[08:05] <laz0r> somehow, i just dont get it... i have a working wpa configuration, so i can just start wpa_supplicant and anything works fine. but how do i tell ubuntu that it should 'just start wpa_supplicant with this config and those options'?
[08:05] <Tonren> jmibanez: Correct
[08:05] <auTONYmous> Tonren: left-click (not right-click)
[08:05] <Tonren> auTONYmous: OH MY GOD.
[08:05] <jmibanez> Tonren: yes
[08:05] <Tony_> I mounted a partition, but i do not have permission to see the content, what to dooo!?
[08:05] <jmibanez> Tonren: i was about to say that.
[08:05] <knight> I am using NVU to create the html codes
[08:05] <jmibanez> uh...
[08:05] <jmibanez> wtf?
[08:05] <knight> I want to ftp to my lamp server
[08:06] <Tonren> jmibanez: I never, EVER noticed that it had a left-click menu.
[08:06] <auTONYmous> LOL
[08:06] <jmibanez> LOL
[08:06] <jmibanez> ROTFL....
[08:06] <juano_> Tonren: LOL
[08:06] <jmibanez> OH GOD>.
[08:06] <jmibanez> :D
[08:06] <auTONYmous> LMAO! (That one took me two weeks also)
[08:06] <Tonren> But come on!  What the hell kind of systray app do you LEFT CLICK?
[08:06] <ErrantEgo-Laptop> ^_^
[08:06] <jmibanez> Tonren: so there -- it was working
[08:06] <noelferreira> hi people i need a good sources.list file for eddy i386. where can i find a good one?
[08:06] <juano_> Tonren: LOL so right
[08:06] <LjL> Tonren: uhm, most of the KDE ones
[08:06] <jmibanez> Tonren: umm... you've previously used windows?
[08:06] <Tonren> LjL: No wonder I didn't like KDE
[08:07] <jmibanez> Tonren: most have both
[08:07] <Tonren> jmibanez: True
[08:07] <adaptr> Tonren: most of th egood ones - at least, the ones that realise you can double your functionality by abandoning the Winblows conventions
[08:07] <kernelsensei> I've a really weird DVD/CD drive issue, the system doesn't detect the device and the ide-cd module is loaded
[08:07] <pike_> !easysource| noelferreira
[08:07] <ubotu> noelferreira: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:07] <kernelsensei> any idea ?
[08:07] <Tonren> adaptr: Touche!
[08:07] <riotkittie> oh. while we're talking about nm,,, is there anyway to make NetworkManager shut up? it was flooding my console with info every ten seconds :\
[08:07] <pike_> noelferreira: never used it myself
[08:07] <jmibanez> Tonren: for instance, gnome-power-manager uses left-click too :)
[08:07] <adaptr> kernelsensei: not yet sensei, then :)
[08:07] <riotkittie> i likey the left clicks
[08:07] <Tonren> auTONYmous: jmibanez: OK, ok.  I'm going to disconnect, then try this left-click nm-applet nonsense.
[08:07] <jmibanez> riotkittie: umm... you didn't happen to mess around with /etc/syslog.conf ?
[08:07] <juano_> lol
[08:07] <auTONYmous> so does cpufreq applet
[08:07] <jmibanez> Tonren: hehehe :) good luck :)
[08:07] <Tonren> Speaking of which... does anyone know how to tell dhclient to release the current lease?
[08:07] <kernelsensei> adaptr: http://rafb.net/p/aK50UE94.html
[08:08] <riotkittie> jmibanez,  > no. should i have?
[08:08] <kernelsensei> adaptr: http://rafb.net/p/XzPTmo22.html
[08:08] <jmibanez> Tonren: just kill it with -HUP
[08:08] <Tonren> jmibanez: -HUP?
[08:08] <jmibanez> Tonren: SIGHUP should tell it to release
[08:08] <jmibanez> Tonren: kill -HUP `pidof dhclient`
[08:08] <magic_ninja> is there a prog to make an exact iso of a disk
[08:08] <Tonren> jmibanez: Oooh.  What do the -HUP switches do?
[08:08] <jmibanez> Tonren: it's a mnemonic for the signal
[08:08] <Tonren> jmibanez: Also, I never knew about the pidup command.
[08:09] <paradizelost> howdy all, running dual screen, how do i have firefox open on both?
[08:09] <Tonren> jmibanez: I love Linux.  You learn something obvious yet new every day.
[08:09] <paradizelost> it comes up saying that it's already running
[08:09] <jmibanez> Tonren: there's -HUP (SIGHUP), -TERM (SIGTERM), and -KILL (which is usually -9)
[08:09] <Tonren> jmibanez: Oh.  So, waht does the SIGHUP signal do?  The only SIG* I know is SIGSEGV, which is every programmer's favorite.
[08:10] <jmibanez> Tonren: ooh, SIGSEGV -- had that on my old box. HUP means Hang UP -- during ye olden days, that meant that the terminal was disconnecting so was "hanging up" and processes connected to the term should disconnect
[08:10] <kenny> hey i would love sum help with a problem i am having
[08:10] <jmibanez> Tonren: and clean up
[08:10] <jmibanez> Tonren: TERM is a notch above that, it's the usual kill switch -- essentially telling the proc "hey, gotta exit."
[08:10] <Tonren> jmibanez: So it's like asking someone to please pick up their things and leave, instead of hurling them through the door.
[08:10] <rkgl> kenny: whats it ??
[08:10] <adaptr> kernelsensei: that's not really interesting information... you want the output of lsmod | grep cd, and see what's in /etc/fstab
[08:11] <jmibanez> Tonren: -9 (KILL) is even worse -- it's a "you're definitely going down, and i don't fscking care." signal
[08:11] <auTONYmous> Tonren: good analogy1
[08:11] <kenny> i have instaled the lamp ver 6.6 and i have zero netconection
[08:11] <jmibanez> Tonren: yeah, -9 is the "hurling them through the door" signal
[08:11] <adaptr> kernelsensei: for the most information you can get, run dmesg | grep CD
[08:11] <kernelsensei> adaptr: the module is loaded and the /etc/fstab is irrelevant since the drive isn't detected at all
[08:11] <jmibanez> Tonren: IIRC, apps can trap the other signals, but not -9
[08:11] <adaptr> kernelsensei: that will tell you whether the kernel recignises it at all
[08:11] <Tonren> jmibanez: Cool.
[08:11] <jmibanez> Tonren: i usually first try killing procs with -HUP
[08:12] <Tonren> jmibanez: Sounds good.
[08:12] <kernelsensei> adaptr: already did the dmesg grep
[08:12] <Tonren> Well, here goes.  BRB.
[08:12] <adaptr> jmibanez: hup doesn't usually kill processes...
[08:12] <jmibanez> Tonren: if that doesn't work, i go harder with -TERM (which is what the default kill sends if you don't specify any signal to send)
[08:12] <jmibanez> adaptr: some procs do :)
[08:12] <Tonren> jmibanez: Ah, I see
[08:12] <kernelsensei> adaptr: the kernel see's a hdb in pio mode but then nothing
[08:12] <jmibanez> adaptr: daemons usually
[08:12] <kernelsensei> adaptr: nothing in /dev
[08:12] <rkgl> kenny: I dont get you ??
[08:12] <adaptr> jmibanez: it has been a long standing tradition that HUP signals the process to re-read its environment
[08:12] <Tonren> jmibanez: Oh, figured it out.  dhclient -r releases the current lease
[08:13] <Tonren> jmibanez: BRB!
[08:13] <jmibanez> Tonren: of course, sometimes i'm lazy and just do kill `pidof victim`
[08:13] <rkgl> kenny: what did you install ??
[08:13] <adaptr> jmibanez: but then you knew that
[08:13] <jmibanez> adaptr: yep
[08:13] <adaptr> kernelsensei: so.. what did it say ?
[08:13] <zelda> can someone please help me install my ati graphics card?
[08:13] <jmibanez> adaptr: :P
[08:13] <Naik0> Hey when i installed fluxbox my menus is empty, when i installed fluxbox last time it had alots of items in it
[08:14] <kernelsensei> adaptr: http://rafb.net/p/VEZYL651.html
[08:14] <BenFP|AFK> Zelda which ati card do you have?
[08:14] <zelda> x850 pro.
[08:14] <zelda> I have the installer on my desktop
[08:14] <auTONYmous> !ati | zelda
[08:14] <ubotu> zelda: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:14] <BenFP|AFK> you can either get it from ubuntu here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver or use the ati linux drivers from the ati website
[08:15] <kenny> the nic has been setup corectly but when i go to do > sudo apt--get update < it times out and i can only ping google.com and get a response every thing else does nothing i instaled the Ubuntu 6.06 LAMP
[08:15] <zelda> yeah I have that.
[08:15] <zelda> Can you help me install those?
[08:15] <adaptr> kernelsensei:  and those lines are sequential, I assume ?
[08:15] <rabrol> Can I use apt-get to find out if apache is intalled?
[08:16] <zelda> I have "edgy" Ive already downloaded the file from Ati's website. The file is on my desktop.
[08:16] <laz0r> ok, i'm rephrasing my question again: what do i have to do so the wpa_supplicant script in /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/ will start wpa_supplicant correctly?
[08:16] <EddyDean> Hello everyone, I'm having a problem. I installed the nvidia drivers (not legacy) by the guide on ubuntuguide.org. I also modified xorg.conf to use nvidia instead of nv. When I recently checked for direct rendering with glxinfo | grep direct I noticed that the direct rendering was off. I pasted a full output of glxinfo here: http://pastebin.com/854479
[08:16] <riotkittie> rabrol > why not just look for it on your machine?
[08:16] <houman> hi there, i need to install freenx, but the Seveas page has only debs built for dapper. not for edgy (which is what i have) is it safe to use them ?
[08:17] <EddyDean> By the way, I'm using 6.06, not Edgy
[08:17] <kernelsensei> adaptr: yes
[08:17] <pike_> houman: yes
[08:17] <zelda> BenFP|AFK: you still there?
[08:17] <rkgl> kenny: how do you connect to the internet
[08:17] <kernelsensei> adaptr: this is the result of a dmesg|grep -i ide
[08:17] <houman> pike_: so im safe??
[08:17] <rabrol> I'm not sure what I'm looking for!  I did locate apache and just found it in my Zope2.9 folder.
[08:17] <pike_> houman: absolutely.
[08:17] <houman> pike_: thank you :)
[08:17] <dakira> hi.. can anyone here help me with a regular expression?
[08:17] <pike_> houman: np
[08:18] <kenny> via an ADSL modem conected via ethernet
[08:18] <houman> dakira: i know perl regexp, what do you wanna do?
[08:18] <laz0r> dakira: what to you want to match?
[08:18] <adaptr> kernelsensei: the usual fix for this is to add the following to your kernel boot line: hdb=ide-scsi; this will force the sr-mod module to load, which you often need.. also try hdb=cdrom first, but those usually do get detected
[08:19] <laz0r> dakira: maybe this will help -> http://regexlib.com/
[08:19] <EddyDean> Hello everyone, I'm having a problem. I installed the nvidia drivers (not legacy) by the guide on ubuntuguide.org. I also modified xorg.conf to use nvidia instead of nv. When I recently checked for direct rendering with glxinfo | grep direct I noticed that the direct rendering was off. I pasted a full output of glxinfo here: http://pastebin.com/854479
[08:19] <dakira> perl is fine.. i want to match a string that contains at least six numbers and is allowed to contain the chars "-", "/", "*" and "#"
[08:19] <adaptr> kernelsensei: case sensitivity is important in grepping dmesg... I'd always look at the exact sequence of output from the uIDE driver, as it usually has more to say
[08:19] <Naik0> Hey when i installed fluxbox my menus is empty, when i installed fluxbox last time it had alots of items in it
[08:19] <rkgl> kenny: seems like the ADSl modem would have an ip and you would also have to configure your network properties..
[08:20] <mrlinux> what is the command to stop and restart a service
[08:20] <EddyDean> Naik0: The debian menu shows up in fluxbox, if you installed it
[08:20] <adaptr> mrlinux: /etc/init.d/service start|stop|restart
[08:20] <LSolaris> SECOND LIFE GOES OPEN SOURCE UNDER GPL! http://digg.com/gaming_news/Second_Life_Releases_the_source_code
[08:20] <muer> quit
[08:20] <kernelsensei> adaptr: I didn't find the hdX=cdrom in the kernel parameters documentation, is that standard ?
[08:20] <kenny> could it be that my modem uses 10.0.0.1 as its ip and that the server uses 10.0.0.3 insted of 192.168.XXX.XXX for both
[08:20] <EddyDean> Hello everyone, I'm having a problem. I installed the nvidia drivers (not legacy) by the guide on ubuntuguide.org. I also modified xorg.conf to use nvidia instead of nv. When I recently checked for direct rendering with glxinfo | grep direct I noticed that the direct rendering was off. I pasted a full output of glxinfo here: http://pastebin.com/854479
[08:21] <adaptr> great - now everybody can hack his SL account credits ....
[08:21] <ubuntu_> hi
[08:21] <dakira> houman and laz0r: something like [0-9] [-/*#] .. but with the above restrictions.. and I'm sure I need to escape something here, right?
[08:21] <adaptr> kernelsensei: of course it is in the documentation, what, are you smarter than me ? :)
[08:21] <rkgl> kenny: see if this helps http://chennailug.org/wiki/?title=Chennai_Broadband_guide#Broadband_in_Ubuntu
[08:21] <ubuntu_> hi kenny
[08:22] <ubuntu_> what bout broadband in ubuntu?
[08:22] <kenny> ok thanks
[08:22] <adaptr> ubuntu_: unlucky choice for a nick you have there.... better make it something a bit more distinguishing
[08:22] <kenny> ill give it a look
[08:22] <kernelsensei> adaptr: grep cdrom kernel-parameters.txt doesn't return this option :p
[08:22] <adaptr> kernelsensei: man bootparam does
[08:22] <ubuntu_> adaptr:  ty ur so sweet ;)
[08:22] <adaptr> kernelsensei: which is *still* the official documentation
[08:22] <Tonren> jmibanez: Didn't work, but some weird stuff happened
[08:22] <adaptr> ubuntu_: trolling already ? that was quick :)
[08:23] <jmibanez> Tonren: ok...
[08:23] <jmibanez> Tonren: daemon.log ? :)
[08:23] <Tonren> jmibanez: First, here's some background info
[08:23] <ubuntu_> adaptr: me ?
[08:23] <ubuntu_> u started it buddy ;)
[08:23] <jmibanez> Tonren: ok, go ahead :)
[08:23] <kernelsensei> adaptr: the evil kernel guys didn't update the kernel-params doc ^^
[08:23] <Tonren> jmibanez: A while ago I found that, if I was having trouble connecting to a wireless network, doing sudo rmmod bcm43xx; sudo modprobe bcm43xx (with a pause inbetween for typing) seemed to make things work
[08:23] <adaptr> ubuntu_: I gave you some very sensible advice.. there are 1000+ people in this channel, most of which already run ubuntu...
[08:24] <StraightShootinC> eddydean you still need help with nvidia?
[08:24] <jmibanez> Tonren: ok
[08:24] <ubuntu_> whatever dood :)
[08:24] <adaptr> kernelsensei: stop arguing, go reboot with hdb=blu-ray :)
[08:24] <Tonren> jmibanez: When I tried to script it, however, those two commands happening immediately almost always made Linux crash.  And I'm talking CRASH.  Everything frozen, I couldn't drop into terminal - I couldn't even do Alt + SysRq + R.
[08:24] <kernelsensei> adaptr: reboot in progress
[08:24] <jmibanez> Tonren: ok...
[08:24] <mrlinux> what is the dhcp service name
[08:24] <Tonren> jmibanez: One of the GUIs - I'm not sure which, but I don't think it was NetworkManager or nm-applet - tried to do that, at some point, and caused a crash a few days ago
[08:24] <kernelsensei> adaptr: that's the first time I see something like this
[08:24] <Tonren> jmibanez: I just thought I'd mention that, since it might be related
[08:24] <ubuntu_> mrlinux:  bind?
[08:25] <jpjacobs> anybody used e17/ entrance? because on my laptop my mouse dissapears at the entrance password prompt :|
[08:25] <adaptr> kernelsensei: and you can still chat ? that's like.. major mojo
[08:25] <jmibanez> Tonren: hrm...
[08:25] <logivision> Hey, I was wondering if somebody could help me set up a packet capturing device for my network.
[08:25] <Tonren> jmibanez: Here's the new daemon.log.  Lots of interesting info here. http://rafb.net/p/cr3AaC33.html
[08:25] <adaptr> ubuntu_: funny!
[08:25] <kernelsensei> adaptr: I'm helping a friend with ssh
[08:25] <juano_> EddyDean: maybe you need to add these lines to /etc/X11/xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/857/
[08:25] <ubuntu_> logivision: tcpdump?
[08:25] <phr34ck> Hello everyone./
[08:25] <StraightShootinC>                                          eddydean... still need help?
[08:25] <ubuntu_> adaptr:  btw happy new year dood :)
[08:25] <kernelsensei> adaptr: I don't use ubuntu myself
[08:25] <Tonren> jmibanez: What yo'ure seeing up top is it failing to connect to the wireless nw (jujubepk) and then TURNING OFF the device - removing its driver!
[08:25] <adaptr> ubuntu_: are you going to be stuck with giving single-word suggestions ?
[08:25] <rogue780> the volume controller next to the time/date went away one day and has never come back. any suggestions on how to get it back, or why it disappeared?
[08:26] <adaptr> ubuntu_: and a very happy new year to you too
[08:26] <logivision> ubuntu_: doesn't matter which program. right now i have Ethereal installed but can't get it to work properly. I want it to be able to capture all the traffic on my network
[08:26] <phr34ck> what SSH client are there for Ubuntu ?
[08:26] <Moniker42> hey, there are two packages for an Evolution Mail plugin i want, how do i know which one to pick?
[08:26] <ubuntu_> adaptr:  stll learning mate
[08:26] <Tonren> jmibanez: As soon as I did sudo modprobe bcm43xx, you see line 21, and it automatically hijacks it and tries to connect again, but it fails.
[08:26] <mrlinux> what is the dhcp service name so i can stop it and restart it
[08:26] <adaptr> phr34ck: you need more than one ?
[08:26] <ubuntu_> logivision:  whats the error?
[08:26] <phr34ck> adaptr, what do you mean?
[08:26] <adaptr> mrlinux: the dhcp client is called dhclient
[08:26] <phr34ck> I have a shell account, and I want to access it. What to do ?
[08:26] <logivision> ubuntu_: there is no error, i just can't get it to capture all the traffic to all the machines on our network
[08:26] <riotkittie> rogue780, left click on the panel -> add to panel
[08:26] <jmibanez> Tonren: why do you have dhclient running?
[08:26] <laz0r> dakira: \d should match any decimal if i remember correctly, \d* should match one or more occurence of a decimal, so i would first try around with that
[08:26] <ubuntu_> logivision:  try running sudo ethereal
[08:27] <riotkittie> rogue > you will find the vol control applet in the box that pops up
[08:27] <adaptr> mrlinux: and it probably already runs a s a service.. run dhclient -l to update your lease once and exit
[08:27] <mrlinux> i am running a dhcp server for LTSP
[08:27] <EddyDean> StraightShootInc: Sec, I was afk
[08:27] <pike_> phr34ck: example:  bash$ ssh 192.168.1.5 -l username
[08:27] <marcus_> hi im back. how can i install kde,gnome and xfce so I can chose from them without losing my ubuntu desktop?
[08:27] <EddyDean> I'll try that
[08:27] <phr34ck> !SSH client
[08:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about SSH client - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:27] <adaptr> phr34ck: what do I mean ? I mean you already have OpenSSH installed, does that not work for you ?
[08:27] <dakira> laz0r: thx.. your link is really helpful, too
[08:27] <phr34ck> pike_, that will work ?
[08:27] <ubuntu_> marcus_:  hi
[08:27] <logivision> ubuntu_: i think it's in the configuration and setup, not in the permissions
[08:27] <phr34ck> adaptr, where is that?
[08:27] <ampsonic> Hello all, having trouble creating a build environment so I can compile IVTV, anyone have a moment to give me a hand?
[08:27] <phr34ck> I didn't know that.
[08:27] <ubuntu_> marcus_: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:27] <adaptr> phr34ck: what do you mean, *where* ?
[08:27] <pike_> phr34ck: yes also about same formate for sftp: sftp username@192.168.1.5
[08:27] <riotkittie> rogue780, if you want to keep it from disappearing again, right click and select 'lock to panel'
[08:27] <laz0r> dakira: [\d*\w*\d*\w*... will maybe match a string that contains at least six decimals somewhere in it?
[08:27] <adaptr> phr34ck: man ssh, "ssh user@host"
[08:27] <ubuntu_> logivision: normal user does not have capture perm.
[08:27] <lyml> could anyone help me set up my wpa psk wireless network?
[08:27] <EddyDean> Restarting X, I'll be back
[08:28] <zelda> ok that didnt help me at all.
[08:28] <lyml> and by setting up, i mean the network is already there
[08:28] <jmibanez> Tonren: or, rather, did you start dhclient while NetworkManager was holding on to the interface?
[08:28] <laz0r> dakira: dont know if there is a more elegant way to do what you want to do
[08:28] <lyml> but i need my wireless settings
[08:28] <marcus_> ubuntu_: I want them all three on my computer so I can switch between them. i have gnome now.
[08:28] <ubuntu_> marcus_: use syanptic to get all
[08:29] <ubuntu_> marcus_:  apt-get will work too
[08:29] <StraightShootinC> marcus  you can switch at the login screen
[08:29] <riotkittie> marcus_, you will be able to switch between them once you have downloaded them, from the sessions section on the login screen
[08:29] <Tonren> jmibanez: What you see from dhclient is me going "Oh man, it didn't work!" Then trying to run dhclient and discovering that eth1 didn't exist
[08:29] <zelda> can someone help me install my ati driver?
[08:29] <zelda> the forum didnt help me.
[08:29] <adaptr> !ati | zelda
[08:29] <ubotu> zelda: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:29] <kernelsensei> adaptr: uhu, the box isn't responding ^^
[08:29] <EddyDean> www.ubuntuguide.org
[08:29] <Mikey> My ubuntu live CD would crash as it tries to load X thing, is there a way just to go to CMD without demadning X?
[08:29] <EddyDean> There is a manual on installing ati drivers
[08:29] <kenny> ok i did the scan following the instructions and it did not detect my modem
[08:29] <StraightShootinC> EddyDean... did it work?
[08:29] <Tonren> jmibanez: I just don't understand why NetworkManager is unsuccessful.
[08:30] <jmibanez> Tonren: try this -- when you believe it can't be helped, tell NetworkManager to go to sleep. right click on nm-applet, there should be an option to Enable/disable it
[08:30] <LSolaris> who here was smart enough to change their local lan's IP from 192.168.[0/1] .x to 10.0.0.x ?
[08:30] <marcus_> riotkittie: install kde it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop. does that mean my gnome goes with it?
[08:30] <adaptr> kernelsensei: I presume your friend booted it up ?
[08:30] <EddyDean> StraightShootinC: Can't test yet, downloading something in firefox so I can't restart X
[08:30] <zelda> I know thanks. But I read them followed directions, and it didnt work.
[08:30] <Tonren> jmibanez: Ok...
[08:30] <ampsonic> trying to get my source tree ready for compiling, but when I run 'make oldconfig' it throws many errors (cannot find most of the header files)
[08:30] <StraightShootinC> marcus.. no... ubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package.
[08:30] <jmibanez> Tonren: oh, and i find that if i need to manually cycle my network connection, that's what i do...
[08:30] <logivision> ubuntu_: but the proram runs in root anyways.  Ethereal (as root) is what program i run says
[08:30] <LSolaris> marcus_ G[ay] nome will go away with kubuntu-desktop
[08:30] <LSolaris> *i don't think it will >.<
[08:30] <LSolaris> just work up :D
[08:30] <jmibanez> Tonren: as for the "it won't work" part... hrm. give me time to digest. :)
[08:30] <EddyDean> StraightShootinC: Americas army better be good :P Wasting my whole bandwith on this :P
[08:30] <marcus_> okay thanks for the help everybody :)
[08:30] <kernelsensei> adaptr: I just typed reboot but maybe didn't the kernel like the hdX=cdrom param ^^
[08:31] <ubuntu_> logivision:  ok open terminal
[08:31] <Tonren> jmibanez: OK.  I'm studying the daemon.log
[08:31] <StraightShootinC> it is a pointer to all the other packages in ubuntu-desktop collectiion
[08:31] <LSolaris> i love my KDE
[08:31] <phr34ck> !daemon
[08:31] <ubotu> daemon: turns other processes into daemons. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.3-1 (edgy), package size 97 kB, installed size 300 kB
[08:31] <kernelsensei> adaptr: he's not at home at the moment I'll have to wait
[08:31] <Tonren> jmibanez: What is all this wpa_supplicant nonsense?  I've never heard of that.
[08:31] <ubuntu_> logivision:  type sudo tcpdump
[08:31] <StraightShootinC> EddyDean... can you see my PM?
[08:31] <phr34ck> What's a daemon ?
[08:31] <LSolaris> http://luciansolaris.trideltatech.net/snapshot3.png  <---------------- My Desktop
[08:31] <ubuntu_> does logging start
[08:31] <adaptr> kernelsensei: the first time you want to try things like these you *sit down in front of the monitor* and *edit the boot option*, so when it goes fsck all you can reboot and revert painlessly....
[08:31] <Tonren> jmibanez: Maybe I should just bite the bullet and use ndiswarpper.
[08:31] <LSolaris> phr34ck, do you know hwat a windows 'service' is?
[08:31] <Tonren> !daemon
[08:31] <riotkittie> i always installed kde-base and xfce rather than the [x/k] ubuntu packages.
[08:31] <dakira> laz0r: the current thing that works is not really elegant.. but I'm sure it is possuible to to it shorter than this: ^[/#*0-9-] *[0-9] [/#*0-9-] *[0-9] [/#*0-9-] *[0-9] [/#*0-9-] *[0-9] [/#*0-9-] *[0-9] [/#*0-9-] *[0-9] [/#*0-9-] *$ :-)
[08:31] <jmibanez> Tonren: it's trying to connect to the wireless network using WPA (instead of WEP) as a first resort
[08:31] <Tonren> jmibanez: I don't know what the implications of either of those are.  :\
[08:32] <Tonren> jmibanez: Does dhclient use WEP?
[08:32] <phr34ck> LSolaris, ummm no.
[08:32] <jmibanez> Tonren: well, if it works using ifup/iwconfig and what-not ...
[08:32] <StraightShootinC> phr34ck   daemon is equal to  a "service" in the windows vernacular
[08:32] <jmibanez> Tonren: dhclient no
[08:32] <adaptr> kernelsensei: I woulda thought you woulda realised that.. being a kernel sensei and all.... one mistake in booting and your access is kaput
[08:32] <EddyDean> StraightShootinC: I guess, you sayd "Hello over there"
[08:32] <Tonren> phr34ck: It's pronounced "demon" despite the a.
[08:32] <jmibanez> Tonren: dhclient has no *idea* what wep is :)
[08:32] <ampsonic> if anyone has a moment, please PM me to help me configure my soruce tree so I can compile IVTV
[08:32] <phr34ck> Tonren, and what does it do exactly ?
[08:32] <adaptr> phr34ck: it's like a djinn, but nicer
[08:32] <StraightShootinC> Wireless Encryption Protocol
[08:32] <Tonren> jmibanez: Well then, NetworkManager shouldn't be hiccoughing.
[08:32] <Raac> so you all use linux
[08:32] <LSolaris> ok, phr34ck, a daemon is essentially a program that sits in the background
[08:32] <Raac> or unix or whatever it is called
[08:32] <LSolaris> like a windows service
[08:32] <adaptr> Raac: I take it you don't...
[08:32] <cobweb> yep
[08:32] <Tonren> phr34ck: Like other folks have been saying, a daemon is like a Windows Service.  It's just a program that runs in the background.
[08:32] <jmibanez> Tonren: how do you configure your wifi security?
[08:32] <laz0r> dakira: im inclined to say: if it works, stick with it
[08:32] <Tonren> Raac: Correct.
[08:33] <jmibanez> Tonren: i.e. how's the wifi network set up?
[08:33] <phr34ck> LSolaris, so if I type: firefox & <-- that's a daemon ?
[08:33] <EddyDean> Raac: Kinda weird question... At least most of us use GNU/Linux, which is indeed based on Unix.
[08:33] <zelda> Is someone going to help me?
[08:33] <adaptr> phr34ck: hardly
[08:33] <kernelsensei> adaptr: I just removed the lapic param and added hdb=cdrom and then typed reboot, nothing bad at all
[08:33] <jmibanez> Tonren: related to that, do you specify anything to iwconfig when manually configuring the interface?
[08:33] <Tonren> jmibanez: It's an unencrypted network.
[08:33] <jmibanez> Tonren: ah.
[08:33] <LSolaris> no
[08:33] <phr34ck> adaptr, well then, that was a program that runs in the background.
[08:33] <Tonren> jmibanez: This is my usual script:  sudo ifconfig eth0 down; sudo ifconfig eth1 up; sudo iwconfig eth1 essid any; sudo iwconfig eth1 ap any; sudo dhclient -1 eth1;
[08:33] <pike_> zelda: what was your question again?
[08:34] <LSolaris> daemons start up to provide a service to the system
[08:34] <adaptr> kernelsensei: irrelevant - *any* change in the boot parameters may make the system unbootable, which is obviously unsolvable on a remote system...
[08:34] <zelda> ive read the support pages. I cannot get this ati gfx driver installed
[08:34] <Tonren> phr34ck: I guess a more specific definition of "daemon" would be "A background process with no GUI."
[08:34] <kernelsensei> adaptr: I know
[08:34] <jmibanez> Tonren: hold on a sec... just have to kill rhythmbox for a minute
[08:34] <LSolaris> apache's httpd is a service, so is nfs and cups
[08:34] <adaptr> phr34ck: indeedy.. and the difference is....? :)
[08:34] <kenny> ok sudo ppp0econf has failed to find my modem now what do i do ass i said b4 the ip of the modem is 10.0.0.1 and the system is 10.0.3 any help to get the net working would be great
[08:34] <Raac> windows is crap but is somehwat user friendly so i use it
[08:34] <LSolaris> *daemon, not service :P
[08:34] <jmibanez> okay, back
[08:34] <adaptr> Raac: and you're ready to try Ubuntu ?
[08:34] <kernelsensei> adaptr: but my friend lives in paris, that's far away from my place
[08:34] <Tonren> jmibanez: hehe.
[08:34] <ubuntu_> well i'm outa of here
[08:34] <phr34ck> Tonren, a program is not a process, correct?
[08:34] <Raac> lol no
[08:34] <laz0r> dakira: more elegant way could be to just match for \d*, then strip that from the string and match again until there are none left
[08:34] <ubuntu_> later guys
[08:34] <jmibanez> Tonren: where was i
[08:34] <Tonren> phr34ck: I'd say it was.
[08:35] <adaptr> kernelsensei: not too far for a kernel sensei...:)
[08:35] <Tonren> jmibanez: NetworkManager fail.
[08:35] <zelda> pike_: i think youve helped me before.
[08:35] <phr34ck> then why: firefox & is not a daemon ?
[08:35] <kernelsensei> adaptr: but he's at home yet
[08:35] <EddyDean> Raac: Ubuntu is really user friendly too, it just has some problems on wireless networking.
[08:35] <adaptr> phr34ck: a program consists of at least one process
[08:35] <ubuntu_> adaptr:  cya mate
[08:35] <Tonren> jmibanez: You were asking about my wireless security.  My usual wireless network is unencrypted.
[08:35] <Raac> i followed a link from a website that brought me to this server.. im just navingating through rooms and exploring
[08:35] <kernelsensei> adaptr: the problem doesn't seem to be related to the kernel params at all
[08:35] <Sergemine> Hi, guys. Does anyone know if it's possible to install GRUB to a FAT partition? PLS!
[08:35] <Tonren> jmibanez: This is my usual script:  sudo ifconfig eth0 down; sudo ifconfig eth1 up; sudo iwconfig eth1 essid any; sudo iwconfig eth1 ap any; sudo dhclient -1 eth1;
[08:35] <jmibanez> Tonren: ah
[08:35] <pike_> zelda: ah well ati is one are im definately unfamiliar with. never had anything but nvidia.  is it giving any errors?
[08:35] <Tonren> jmibanez: (I resent that.)
[08:35] <kernelsensei> adaptr: "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"
[08:35] <jmibanez> Tonren: ok thanks for the refresher :)
[08:35] <pike_> are==area
[08:35] <EddyDean> StraightShootinC: The question is, can you see my PMs?
[08:36] <LSolaris> no offense phr34ck, if you don't know what a daemon is, and you don't understand our rough and non-official descriptions, maybe you shouldn't have a need to know what it is
[08:36] <kernelsensei> adaptr: I told my buddy to hard reboot the box
[08:36] <jmibanez> Tonren: umm... sorry, i guess. :) i'm a little scatter-brained at the moment
[08:36] <StraightShootinC> I'm not seeing any replies.. if you're not registered, I don't think you can send any
[08:36] <Tonren> jmibanez: It happens.  ;P
[08:36] <laz0r> dakira: but then would have to do some kind of a loop and less regexp magic
[08:36] <Tonren> laz0r: Mm, delicious regexp magic.
[08:36] <adaptr> phr34ck: a daemon is defined as a process that runs in the background and *detaches itself from the terminal* - the last bit is what makes it a daemon
[08:36] <phr34ck> LSolaris, it's okay. I try to understand, if I didn't, I search the web for some time, and if that didn't help me, I'll just drop it untill I get more experinced.
[08:36] <jmibanez> Tonren: anyway, how did you try connecting to the wireless network via nm-applet?
[08:36] <magic_ninja> hey kernelsensei i had to deal with that...need some experienced help or you getting it?
[08:36] <pike_> zelda: i dont like them but you might ocnsider one of the scipts
[08:36] <Tonren> jmibanez: I left-clicked it, and clicked "jujubepk" (the name of the wireless network)
[08:36] <zelda> pike_: no. I dont know how to install it. Im using Linux Mint, which is Ubuntu with added stuff. I dont know how to install it. Ive copied and pasted stuff from the support pages, but it will not install
[08:36] <StraightShootinC> EddyDean  More to the point... if what you're trying now doesn't work, I know a very good debian package for installing the proprietary nvidia drivers
[08:37] <LSolaris> phr34ck not to be a dick or anything :\  but yea, it is a background process that provides a specific service or duty to the system
[08:37] <jmibanez> Tonren: did the entry for the wireless network have any icons attached to it?
[08:37] <pike_> zelda: scripts automatix or easybuntu.  easybuntu would be safer
[08:37] <Tonren> jmibanez: No, but it has some kind of full bar next to it
[08:37] <phr34ck> LSolaris, okay I got it.
[08:37] <Mikey> i hate to interupt but i got a tiny q
[08:37] <phr34ck> Like apache service in windows.
[08:37] <jmibanez> Tonren: ok, the bar's the signal
[08:37] <EddyDean> StraightShootinC: I tried EasyUbuntu, but it detected the nvidia drivers as installed (ohh the agony, not being able to setup an debian-based system by myself)
[08:37] <magic_ninja> kernelsensei: has your buddy moved around any hard drives or such?
[08:37] <jmibanez> Tonren: so it *should* work, theoretically
[08:37] <kenny> need HELp with adsl modem
[08:37] <phr34ck> Where I can manage my services by right-clicking my computer and manage.
[08:37] <dakira> laz0r: i'll figure it out! :-)
[08:38] <jmibanez> Tonren: based on my checklist of "things needed to get NetworkManager running on an interface"
[08:38] <zelda> second question. How can i get this to stop asking me for my password every time I want to do something. Its annoying
[08:38] <jevangelo> im trying to run things on a remote ubuntu server with ssh, im logged into my username and trying to run things with sudo, but everytime i try, nothing happens
[08:38] <jevangelo> no errors or anything
[08:38] <kernelsensei> magic_ninja: nope, he has a notebook and the dvd device isn't detected
[08:38] <adaptr> phr34ck: stop referring to daemons as "windows services" already! Windows services are ripoffs of Unix daemons :)
[08:38] <riotkittie> i just shot coffee out of my nose. god. i am so sexy it hurts.
[08:38] <EddyDean> zelda: fakeroot maybe?
[08:38] <Tonren> zelda: You can add yourself to the "sudoers" file.
[08:38] <magic_ninja> kernelsensei: one thing that causes that problem is that linux can't mount the root partition...see if you can get some more detailed info about the error
[08:38] <LSolaris> hey, anyone here got nfs/smb working (as a server) in kubuntu edgy?
[08:38] <logivision> ubuntu_: is that going to capture ALL of the traffic on my network?
[08:38] <phr34ck> adaptr, you said it's like Windows services. I'm just refereing to it ;p
[08:38] <zelda> how do I do those gentlemen?
[08:38] <adaptr> phr34ck: I never did
[08:38] <LSolaris> i ain't linux stupid, but i don't get it
[08:38] <StraightShootinC> this isn't easyubuntu or automatix.. its called envy, you install it as a .deb, then switch to one of the virtual consoles and start it up... it can remove it as well so you can get rid of bad install first... you find it here        http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[08:38] <logivision> ubuntu_: not just from my computer but from all the other computers on the network too
[08:38] <jmibanez> Tonren: 1) driver's there; 2) has linux wireless networking interface (i.e. works with iwconfing et al.); 3) picked up by NetworkManager when it starts
[08:38] <Tonren> zelda: Use your favorite text editor to edit sudoers, and add this line: Defaults:zelda        !authenticate
[08:38] <sonium> is there a known bug in the last glibc update installation procedure? I get this error http://rafb.net/p/wApS9s71.html
[08:39] <phr34ck> well, someone did. Anyway, thanks for the explanation.
[08:39] <phr34ck> adaptr, I have a question though.
[08:39] <EddyDean> zelda: /etc/sudoers I guess, or sudo apt-get install fakeroot
[08:39] <jmibanez> Tonren: just can't get why it won't associate... hrm...
[08:39] <adaptr> LSolaris: samba is very different from NFS.. but NFS is definitely easier to set up.. if you have two ubuntu boxen I'd start with NFS
[08:39] <jmibanez> Tonren: do you have wireshark (nee' ethereal) installed?
[08:39] <Sergemine> is there a way to recover the windows install on a fat partition if the EXT3 partition where Ubuntu and GRUB files were istalled was deleted or formated. The windows system doestn't boot any more though it is there. Guys, pls! Is there a way to recover my PC?
[08:39] <EddyDean> zelda: You'll need to edit /etc/sudoers in order to make yourself able to use sudo <command>
[08:39] <phr34ck> how can I use & with a command when it requires a password. like: sudo apt-get update & <-- that never works if I need to supply the root password.
[08:39] <LSolaris> adaptr i get an authentication is not supported error from the client
[08:39] <pike_> zelda: if youre going to be doing alot of admin stuff you can sudo -i or sudo -s to get root terminal otherwise to just use sudo with no prompt gksudo gedit /etc/sudoers just google for the change to make to sudoers for no prompt
[08:39] <zelda> thank you gentlemen
[08:39] <jmibanez> phr34ck: sudo usually caches credentials for a short period of time
[08:39] <LSolaris> is it setup-able via gui or does it require l33t config file editing?
[08:40] <EddyDean> Sergemine: Some files might be able to be saved, but Windows is definately not going to work properly anymore
[08:40] <StraightShootinC> EddyDean, don't start it in terminal, because one of the first things it does is kill the X process.  So you must hit Ctrl+Alt+F2 (or F3 thru F6) to start it up.
[08:40] <Wassili> hallo
[08:40] <DeathFox> does ubuntu use any package amangers
[08:40] <kenny> "Cry" need network config help with adsl modem PM some help plzzz
[08:40] <DeathFox> im new :x
[08:40] <adaptr> phr34ck: what would be the use of forcing apt-get into the background ? if you really want to do this then enclose the command in quotes
[08:40] <jmibanez> phr34ck: what you can do is run a previous sudo command (say 'sudo apt-get update', then press ^C)
[08:40] <phr34ck> jmibanez, yeah I know. But what if I supplied the password for the first ime?
[08:40] <adaptr> LSolaris: where ? what ? huh ? what ?
[08:40] <EddyDean> StraightShootinC: Okay, I'm ready to get some files thrown at
[08:40] <jmibanez> phr34ck: then re-run it, with '&'
[08:40] <LSolaris> and cups server shows the printer, but doesn't print from the client
[08:40] <adaptr> LSolaris: setting up NFS takes about 5 minutes
[08:40] <StraightShootinC> Kenny... does it not serve dhcp?
[08:40] <LSolaris> not for me adaptr
[08:41] <riotkittie> oh. question about sudo and the 15 min period not needed to enter a pass. is that 15 mins from the first command, or 15 mins from the last sudo?
[08:41] <LSolaris> i spent hours, nogo
[08:41] <jmibanez> phr34ck: P.S. would you mind changing your nick? hard to type it :)
[08:41] <adaptr> LSolaris: first , *what * are you talking about ? SMB != NFS != CUPS
[08:41] <EddyDean> Deathfox: apt-get is the package manager used in ubuntu, and synaptic is the graphical frontend
[08:41] <adaptr> jmibanez: tab-complete, dude
[08:41] <riotkittie> jmibanez, > nick completion is your friend
[08:41] <phr34ck> jmibanez, use tab.
[08:41] <adaptr> jmibanez:  phr-TAB
[08:41] <LSolaris> NFS and CUPS (file sharing and printing on my lan)
[08:41] <jmibanez> adaptr: he's not the only phr
[08:41] <jmibanez> adaptr: i've been using tab completion :P
[08:41] <LSolaris> NFS, i can use sneakernet with an ipod, but i need cups
[08:41] <phr34ck> I'm the only phr ;p
[08:42] <Sergemine> EddyDean, but it's just the boot loader or master boot record, what ever which doesn't refer to the windows loader! how can i install GRUB or something else to MBR to have windows booting again? !!!!!! PLSSSSSS
[08:42] <LSolaris> i can't seem to get both set up
[08:42] <adaptr> LSolaris: if you want top use CUPS from another Linux machine you don't need anything besides CUPS
[08:42] <jmibanez> phr34ck: err, no, there's phrizer
[08:42] <riotkittie> are there any console based irc clients that do nick completion? and maybe throw a bit of colour in?
[08:42] <LSolaris> i know
[08:42] <phr34ck> ahh, I see.
[08:42] <DeathFox> does ubuntu use any package managers like rpms etc? for easy installing
[08:42] <Flannel> riotkittie: irssi, bitchX
[08:42] <phr34ck> well anyway, you can refer to me anyway you find suitable.
[08:42] <adaptr> jmibanez: but he *is* the first of them
[08:42] <riotkittie> i was trying to follow this chan in sirc yesterday. it was painful
[08:42] <pike_> riotkittie: i much prefer irssi
[08:42] <Tonren> jmibanez: Sorry about that.  Somehow, gnome-power-manager got closed, and my computer died.
[08:42] <StraightShootinC> Sergemine... is grub loading ok? do you have a windows entry in the grub menu?
[08:42] <jmibanez> adaptr: yeah, but i don't have tab-cycling :)
[08:42] <LSolaris> the fucking server won't print what the client tells it to print, even though the server shows the client the printer
[08:42] <EddyDean> DeathFox: Yes, *.deb files can be compared to RPM, but it's better ;)
[08:42] <jmibanez> adaptr: oh well :)
[08:42] <jmibanez> that's life :)
[08:42] <kenny> the nic is configured to the right ip and stuff but the sudo ppp0econf did not detect the modem as being there
[08:42] <adaptr> !language | LSolaris
[08:42] <ubotu> LSolaris: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:43] <riotkittie> Flannel,  ohhh i could kick myself, i have irssi installed  <hangs head in shame>
[08:43] <Tonren> jmibanez: Now... where were we?  Ostensibly, NetworkManager should be working fine, but it's not.
[08:43] <jmibanez> adaptr: using xchat-gnome at the moment, FWIW
[08:43] <johns^> LSolaris: is the printer enabled? /usr/bin/enable printername
[08:43] <phr34ck> Xchat rules.
[08:43] <StraightShootinC> kenny  if its a DSL modem... it shouldnt be connecting to ppp
[08:43] <EddyDean> Sergemine: Windows wants to be on the "master" hd (hda), else you need to map the harddisks
[08:43] <phr34ck> I like it very much.
[08:43] <LSolaris> well, the server is able to print
[08:43] <jmibanez> Tonren: yeah... it's got most of the checklist ok.
[08:43] <Tonren> jmibanez: Do you think I should try switching to ndiswrapper?  Would it be worth the trouble?
[08:43] <lyml> So I'm using this guide, and after having installed network manager gnome and logged out/in i still don't get that icon consisting of 3 dots as the guide says
[08:43] <lyml> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[08:43] <adaptr> LSolaris: how did you set up the printer ?
[08:43] <Flannel> riotkittie: the former is already installed, if you have u-d on dapper, not edgy.
[08:43] <johns^> LSolaris: how did you setup the client?
[08:43] <jmibanez> Tonren: how much pain are we talking about here? :)
[08:43] <Flannel> riotkittie: oh, nevermind, you know that already ;)
[08:43] <johns^> I always put a client.conf in /etc/cups
[08:43] <jmibanez> Tonren: i haven't personally used an ndiswrapper-dependent card yet
[08:43] <riotkittie> phr34ck, > xchat is nice but...    :P
[08:44] <peace-keeper> why dont the ubuntu torrents work on the download pages
[08:44] <kenny> i can only ping google and that is it aprt form that there is no netconection
[08:44] <adaptr> and I prefer to goto localhost:631 :)
[08:44] <Tonren> jmibanez: I dunno.  Last time I tried to get ndiswrapper working there was a scary error message, but it seemed like there were a lot of people on UbuntuForums who it'd happened to as well.
[08:44] <Mikey> My ubuntu live CD would crash as it tries to load X thing, is there a way just to go to CMD without demadning X?
[08:44] <jmibanez> Tonren: i've helped my girlfriend with her wifi card which needed ndiswrapper
[08:44] <EddyDean> StraightShootinC: Gonna restart X, I'll be back
[08:44] <johns^> ech "ServerName <insert servername here>" > /etc/cups/client.conf
[08:44] <jmibanez> Tonren: but that's about it
[08:44] <Tonren> jmibanez: I've gotten ndiswrapper working before.
[08:44] <StraightShootinC> ok
[08:44] <riotkittie> peace-keeper, i was wondering that myself a few days ago
[08:44] <LSolaris> via kcontrol under printers, selected cups, pointed client to server, server said it had the appropriate printer, went through correct drivers, tried printing test page, no go
[08:44] <jmibanez> Tonren: ok...
[08:44] <kenny> i wanted to do apt-get update but it times out
[08:44] <adaptr> Mikey: the alternative install CD can do text
[08:44] <jmibanez> hrm.
[08:44] <Tonren> jmibanez: I guess I ought to try it?
[08:44] <johns^> kcontrol printer admin doesn't work
[08:44] <poundex_> hey
[08:44] <jmibanez> Tonren: well, try it. :) if it works, then it works. if it doesn't, we tried :)
[08:45] <johns^> one of the thins that s*ck in ubuntu is printermanagement :)
[08:45] <DeathFox> does 64bit ubuntu run better on a 64bit
[08:45] <jmibanez> i'm going off to burn my lungs. :P
[08:45] <poundex_> can anyone tell me if it's possible to share an internet connection in linux over an ad-hoc wireless network to windows?
[08:45] <DeathFox> if u got a 64bit pc
[08:45] <DeathFox> ?
[08:45] <Mikey> adaptr: cant i just omit loading of gui (or x) from the normal CD?
[08:45] <Sergemine> StraightShootinC it is NOT. Grub is installed into the Master Boot Record (if that's an acurate understanding) but the grub files which were on ext3 drive are no longer there. Gone. Is there a way to refer GRUB not to the dead ext3 partition but to another FAT partition if I have a copy of those files placed there?!!!!!!
[08:45] <jmibanez> be back in a bit.
[08:45] <pike_> Mikey: best bet is to burn the alternate install cd. you should be able to thought alt-ctrl-f1 through 6 to get to term in livecd
[08:45] <adaptr> Mikey: nope
[08:45] <Tonren> jmibanez: K.  I'm gonna try building the newest ndiswrapper from source
[08:45] <Mikey> or at least install it onto the HD without loading?
[08:46] <LSolaris> adaptr?
[08:46] <adaptr> yes ?
[08:46] <StraightShootinC> Sergemine... so what are you logged into now? live CD? windows?
[08:46] <LSolaris> via kcontrol under printers, selected cups, pointed client to server, server said it had the appropriate printer, went through correct drivers, tried printing test page, no go
[08:46] <riotkittie> i need to make a windows live cd
[08:46] <riotkittie> hehehe
[08:46] <StraightShootinC> riotkittie.. those are cool
[08:47] <logivision> How do I set it up so I can listen to MP3's on linux ?
[08:47] <magic_ninja> !k0ncd
[08:47] <johns^> LSolaris: maybe an access problem. But first I would try to put a client.conf in /etc/cups and restart cupsys
[08:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about k0ncd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:47] <magic_ninja> !koncd
[08:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about koncd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:47] <StraightShootinC> !restricted
[08:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:47] <pike_> !resticted| logivision
[08:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resticted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:47] <pike_> !mp3 | logivision
[08:47] <ubotu> logivision: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:47] <adaptr> LSolaris: and CUPS works from the server ?
[08:47] <peace-keeper> dualboot is a sure way of getting yourself mentally insane
[08:47] <LSolaris> logvision set your sources to universe and multiverse, and sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[08:47] <riotkittie> StraightShootinC, i only learned about them the other day. in here, actually.   i figure i'll put one together just in case i /need/ it after nuking my last WinOS partition
[08:47] <LSolaris> adaptr yes
[08:47] <AmaroqWolf> logivision, I just use the XMMS player.
[08:47] <pike_> can't spell today it seems..
[08:47] <Sergemine> windows. but that's a different PC , StraightShootinC
[08:47] <johns^> peace-keeper: no dualboot rules :)
[08:48] <AmaroqWolf> I don't remember what else I've tried to install to allow me to listen to mp3s, but only that player seems to work.
[08:48] <sharperguy> Is flash 9 in the Edgy repos yet?
[08:48] <LSolaris> amaroqwolf amarok and vlc work for me
[08:48] <StraightShootinC> sergemine... how did you nuke the ext3 partition? is it still there?
[08:48] <LSolaris> w32codecs
[08:48] <riotkittie> peace-keeper >> ive never really had a problem setting up dualboots. multiboots on the other hand...  <cringe>
[08:48] <mrlinux> sharperguy, what u mean
[08:48] <AmaroqWolf> I have amarok and a few others and none of them work for me. They stop as soon as I try to play.
[08:48] <adaptr> LSolaris: what type of printer is it ?
[08:48] <LSolaris> hp deskjet 895 Cxi
[08:48] <johns^> riotkittie: my system is triple boot
[08:49] <LSolaris> proper drivers
[08:49] <johns^> win2k, demudi and edgy
[08:49] <mrlinux> what version is edgy 6.10
[08:49] <LSolaris> only thing it needs is a new color ink cartrage
[08:49] <riotkittie> johns^,  mine too. win2k, dapper, and zenwalk. though i am going to change that.
[08:49] <StraightShootinC> Sergemine... unless you deleted the partition, it can probably be fixed... i just need to know what happened
[08:49] <johns^> riotkittie: just installed edgy because I wanted to play with Beryl
[08:49] <adaptr> LSolaris: brrr.. sorry, mate :(
[08:49] <LSolaris> all my systems are purely kubuntu edgy
[08:49] <Tonren> Where are the source files located for Ubuntu?
[08:49] <johns^> Will get sick of it soon I guess
[08:49] <Sergemine> i installed an EXT3 filesystem driver under windows and mabaged to delete all Ubuntu files somehow
[08:50] <peace-keeper> i have a notebook with 120gb.. im 100% sure that if i try to setup dualboot on it, everything will go boom
[08:50] <yoshiznit123> tonren, you can get the source for a package with apt-get source
[08:50] <AmaroqWolf> LSolaris, do you know what I need to have installed to make mp3's work on everything, and not just XMMS?
[08:50] <Sergemine> the partition is deleted
[08:50] <johns^> Sergemine: why so complicated
[08:50] <johns^> just format the drive
[08:50] <Tonren> yoshiznit123: I mean the actual Kernel source
[08:50] <Sergemine> :(
[08:50] <johns^> Tonren: not installed by default
[08:50] <StraightShootinC> Sergemine... you installed Ext2fsd?  and then you told it to start the partition automatically right?
[08:50] <riotkittie> peace-keeper, your hard drive is 10x (and then some) larger than my laptop hd. i think i hate you :P
[08:50] <LSolaris> amaroqwolf, are your /etc/apt/sources.list sources set up to use the universe and multiverse repositories?
[08:50] <Tonren> johns^: What's the package name, and what directory does the source end up in?
[08:50] <Sergemine> can GRUB read from FAT drive?
[08:50] <johns^> Tonren: howtoforge.org has somethings about kernel compilation
[08:50] <jonah1980> hey guys how can i set my static ip in networking? my isp have given me a static ip which my router is auto connecting to. now i just need the routers ips etc to put in network settings instead of it being on dhcp??
[08:50] <laz0r> Sergemine: the ext3 ifs driver destroyed your partition? or did you delete anything yourself?
[08:51] <yoshiznit123> tonren, it would go in /usr/src/linux-VERSION
[08:51] <LSolaris> not just main and restricted
[08:51] <Tonren> johns^: I don't need to compile it, I just need it so I can compile ndiswrapper
[08:51] <Tonren> yoshiznit123: Do you know the package name?
[08:51] <adaptr> Tonren: apt-cache search linux-source
[08:51] <jonah1980> is there a terminal command to see ip address from router?
[08:51] <StraightShootinC> Sergemine?
[08:51] <Tonren> adaptr: lol, I was literally typing that exact line as you sent it
[08:51] <johns^> Tonren: you need linux-headers i think
[08:51] <Tonren> jonah1980: You mean your IP address, as assigned by the router, o the router's IP address?
[08:51] <borg> grrr, is there a flash 8 for ubuntu x86? and there do i get it?
[08:51] <adaptr> Tonren: yes, but ^^^^
[08:51] <yoshiznit123> tonren, and for ndiswrapper you should be able to compile just with the headers, "linux-headers-VERSION"
[08:51] <Sergemine> is there a liveCD to deleted
[08:51] <johns^> Tonren: do a  uname -a in a terminal en look for the headers with that name
[08:51] <Sergemine> deleted
[08:51] <riotkittie> no. flash 8 for linux does not exist
[08:51] <riotkittie> use 9beta
[08:52] <StraightShootinC> Sergemine you deleted it?
[08:52] <adaptr> Sergemine: why not just run GRUB and find out ?
[08:52] <jonah1980> Tonren, to be honest i don't really know what i mean, but yeah
[08:52] <peace-keeper> last time i had flash on ubuntu, the sound didnt work
[08:52] <Sergemine> *is there a liveCD to install GRUB seperatly
[08:52] <Sergemine> ?
[08:52] <LSolaris> 9beta works great for firefox, i just wished kde used flash for web backgrounds (so i could use digg's swarm for a background)
[08:52] <EddyDean> Okay I'm back
[08:52] <Tonren> jonah1980: Your computer and the router have separate IP addresses
[08:52] <jonah1980> Tonren, is it iproute or something like that in terminal?
[08:52] <EddyDean> Direct rendering works now :)
[08:52] <peace-keeper> linux + sound = always a problem
[08:52] <Tonren> jonah1980: Do you want *your* IP address, or the router's?
[08:52] <Flannel> Sergemine: there area few.  you can also use the regular CDs,
[08:52] <POVaddct> jonah1980: maybe you mean this: route | grep default
[08:52] <Flannel> !grub | Sergemine, first link
[08:52] <ubotu> Sergemine, first link: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:52] <Sergemine> or to recover an Grub install?
[08:52] <adaptr> jonah1980: route -n, or ifconfig, or ip route
[08:52] <StraightShootinC> EddyDean    was it envy? or what you tried before?
[08:52] <laz0r> Sergemine: you should be able to use any livecd with grub to install grub
[08:52] <jonah1980> Tonren, i just want the settings to put in gnome networks section to have static ip
[08:52] <Tonren> jonah1980: route -n
[08:53] <Sergemine> the UBUNTU ALTERNATIVE DESKTOP CDs?
[08:53] <LSolaris> ok, amaroqwolf, if your sources are set up with universe and multiverse, do a: sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[08:53] <riotkittie> Sergemine, if you have a live CD you can install grub from that.
[08:53] <hjmills> !shout | Sergemine
[08:53] <ubotu> Sergemine: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[08:53] <Sergemine> can you suggest a small size live CD that would do this?
[08:53] <riotkittie> wait. does GRUB still exist in your MBR ?
[08:53] <Sergemine> i couldn't find one
[08:53] <EddyDean> StraightShootinC: I just added these 3 lines, which messed up X because the quotes got pasted wrong, and then, just to be certain I also enabled dri
[08:53] <filipe88> I need to redirect a ftp service on iptables, of the server 200.x.x.x to the server 201.x.x.x. Help me?
[08:53] <LSolaris> BUT, if you just set your sources, amaroqwolf, to those two, you need to do a sudo apt-get update FIRST
[08:53] <jonah1980> ok thanks guys your cool
[08:53] <StraightShootinC> Ok. cool
[08:54] <hjmills> Sergemine: you could try the alternate install cd and do advanced mode and drop to a shell and do it there i would think
[08:54] <kernelsensei> adaptr: hdb={cdrom.ide-scsi} doesn't help, the kernel hangs with =cdrom and =ide-scsi does nothing
[08:54] <laz0r> Sergemine: the debian business card iso should be really really small
[08:54] <LSolaris> i'm a professional pirate from my windows days :P
[08:54] <riotkittie> Sergemine >> uhm, Damn Small Linux, maybe. i am not familiar with it , though but its about 50MB and i *think* it will run from disc
[08:54] <jonah1980> so i need static ip address, subnet and gateway, which is which on route -n??
[08:54] <kernelsensei> adaptr: but I'm wondering why is my secondary ide channel off
[08:54] <laz0r> Sergemine: although i cant guarantee that theres grub on it... but it should be
[08:54] <riotkittie> LSolaris, arrr, me too, matey :x
[08:54] <LSolaris> only 2 other distros i'd use other than kubuntu, that's debian and gentoo
[08:54] <Flannel> Sergemine: either, the alternate OR the desktop, or the super grub disk
[08:54] <adaptr> kernelsensei: he needs to go look in the BIOS
[08:55] <hjmills> LSolaris: what ship ye on and what sea do ye sail?
[08:55] <riotkittie> gentoo seems like a PITA.
[08:55] <StraightShootinC> riotkittie... raise the old skull n bones and we shall all rally round
[08:55] <riotkittie> i might try it if i had a better system tho
[08:55] <StraightShootinC> the jolly roger
[08:55] <LSolaris> i sail thee pacific in search of rare treasures, i reap the bootie that comes out of the indian
[08:55] <kernelsensei> adaptr: he installed ubuntu with the CD drive... so I think it's enabled and working
[08:55] <jonah1980> or is everything i need on ifconfig?
[08:55] <AmaroqWolf> LSolaris, it seems to have a spot for me to uncomment a couple of lines for the universe repository, but I don't see anything about multiverse. I do see something like backports that has multiverse in the lines. The universe one has one out of two lines already uncommented, and both of the backport ones are commented.
[08:56] <Sergemine> you see the addvansed install is too complicted. cannot figure out how to use it to recover grub install. something may be more specialized?
[08:56] <hjmills> yo ho ho and a bottle of rum
[08:56] <johns^> filipe88: /sbin/iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING  -p tcp --dport 21 -j DNAT --to 201.x.x.x
[08:56] <riotkittie> arrrrr.
[08:56] <EddyDean> hjmills: Or 2 bottles, if it's okay ;)
[08:56] <hjmills> Sergemine: download the ubuntu live cd then and use that?
[08:56] <Flannel> AmaroqWolf: you have to type in multiverse manually.  I usually do it on the universe lines, just add a space after each, and then add multiverse
[08:56] <jonah1980> adaptr, hmm all commands seem to have something missing...
[08:56] <Sergemine> and thank you very much for trying to help. for understanding the sittuation.
[08:56] <hjmills> Sergemine: either way you are gonna download another cd
[08:56] <laz0r> Sergemine: i you can boot, and then get a shell, you should be able to reinstall grub
[08:56] <filipe88> johns^ ok, i will test, thanks!
[08:57] <jonah1980> adaptr, can't see a gateway address, i'm a bit mixed up what is what really...
[08:57] <LSolaris> ok, do you see a repository line amaroqwolf where there isn't # in front (2 lines, a deb and a deb-src) that end with restricted and main?  just add the words universe and multiverse to the end of both those lines (they should be near the top), save, then do: sudo apt-get update
[08:57] <StraightShootinC> Sergemine... you never answered me completely... did you specifically remove the ext3 partition? if not it is possible you can repair it
[08:57] <hjmills> EddyDean: argh! drink as much as ye like, just dont ye dare throw on my ship!
[08:57] <logivision> I need to know _EVERY_ possible way to get a Window's  executable program installed and running on Linux
[08:57] <AmaroqWolf> So the multiverse ones are the same as universe lines, just with the addition of a space and the word multiverse?
[08:57] <johns^> filipe88: there's a simple iptables howto on linux.org. Very useful
[08:57] <LSolaris> then do sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[08:57] <g333k_work> hi, how can I convert this web page and all its links to a pdf file? http://www.linuxlots.com/~barreiro/spanish/gtk/tutorial/gtk_tut.es.html
[08:57] <laz0r> Sergemine: just start grub, then do the root (hd0,0) or whatever thing, then setup (hd0) (make sure hd0 is the actual harddisk where the grub files are)
[08:57] <jonah1980> Tonren, can you guide me on which is which?
[08:58] <mrlinux> how to restart dhcp sever in terminal
[08:58] <StraightShootinC> g33k_work   install pdf printdriver and then print it to file
[08:58] <jbroome> mrlinux: /etc/init.d/dhcpd restart
[08:58] <adaptr> jonah1980: the last line in the output from route -n should be your gateway address
[08:58] <Flannel> AmaroqWolf: well, they're all separate.  But you can piggy back repositories like that.  You could have four lines (one for each: main, restricted, uni, multi) or one line with all four, it doesn't matter.
[08:58] <StraightShootinC> though I dunno if there is one for ubuntu
[08:58] <Tonren> jonah1980: If you have a working connection, type "ifconfig" and look for "inet addr:".  The number to the right of that will be your computer's IP address, assigned by the router.
[08:58] <AmaroqWolf> Flannel, okay. Thank you. So I can just add multiverse to both of those lines?
[08:58] <LSolaris> amaroqwolf, they are different, universe adds in the 'unsupported' packages and multiverse adds in the proprietary packages
[08:59] <Sergemine> StraightShootinC I specially removed it after deleted files. it had no use
[08:59] <Flannel> AmaroqWolf: add multiverse after each universe
[08:59] <eXistenZ> How can I install flash 9 in ubuntu?
[08:59] <Tonren> jonah1980: Type route -n and look for the number under "Gateway". That will be your router's LAN IP address.  It's usually of the form 192.168.2.1
[08:59] <AmaroqWolf> Okay. The deb isn't commented out, but the deb-src is.
[08:59] <Flannel> !flash9 | eXistenZ
[08:59] <ubotu> eXistenZ: flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[08:59] <eXistenZ> !backports
[08:59] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[08:59] <mrlinux> mrlinux@Thinserver:~$ /etc/init.d/dhcpd restart
[08:59] <mrlinux> bash: /etc/init.d/dhcpd: No such file or directory
[08:59] <LSolaris> AmaroqWolf: be sure your main 2 repo lines ARE: [deb/deb-src]  http:// main restricted universe multiverse
[08:59] <mrlinux> help
[08:59] <StraightShootinC> Sergemine... actually it probably did... you freaked out and removed it... but there's a way to fix it if you do not remove it
[08:59] <borg> is there a flash 8 for linux?
[08:59] <StraightShootinC> live and learn I guess
[08:59] <Tonren> jonah1980: To get your WAN (that's WIDE Area Network, as opposed to LAN or LOCAL Area Network) IP address, go to whatismyip.com.
[08:59] <LSolaris> fuck
[08:59] <LSolaris> oops
[09:00] <LSolaris> sry language
[09:00] <yoshiznit123> mrlinux, it might be dhcp3-server
[09:00] <eXistenZ> Flannel, what is the name of teh package?
[09:00] <jonah1980> Tonren, ok cool thaks a lot
[09:00] <adaptr> AmaroqWolf: they have you editing sources.list by hand ?> stupid gits.. go to system -> administration -> software sources, it's all there
[09:00] <mrlinux> borg, i use flash 9 beta
[09:00] <iratepirate> no, there is NO Flash 8 for nix
[09:00] <Tonren> jonah1980: No prob, man.
[09:00] <Flannel> eXistenZ: no idea.  search for flash9
[09:00] <LSolaris> amaroqwolf, [deb/deb-src]  http://[repo url]  main restricted universe multiverse
[09:00] <AmaroqWolf> The deb one had dapper universe main restricted and the deb-src had dapper universe.
[09:00] <LSolaris> amaroqwolf, you using edgy?
[09:00] <borg> but there's flash 9 for linux right?
[09:01] <sleepy745> can gnome run a kde theme?
[09:01] <mrlinux> mrlinux@Thinserver:~$ /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart
[09:01] <mrlinux> dhcpd self-test failed. Please fix the config file.
[09:01] <mrlinux> The error was:
[09:01] <mrlinux> drop_privileges: could not set group id: Operation not permitted
[09:01] <AmaroqWolf> I'm using dapper.
[09:01] <mrlinux> help
[09:01] <yoshiznit123> mrlinux, and use sudo too
[09:01] <Sergemine> adaptr, " just start grub, then do the root (hd0,0) or whatever thing, then setup (hd0) (make sure hd0 is the actual harddisk where the grub files are)" - hd0 - does it stand for the drive? can a partition of this drive be specified where the /boot/grub/ directory is? and will a FAT partition work for holding those files?
[09:01] <LSolaris> ok, amarokwolf, it should say dapper main restricted universe multiverse on both lines
[09:01] <riotkittie> sweet.
[09:01] <imbecile> hey guys, how do i completely remove network manager?
[09:01] <Flannel> borg: yes
[09:01] <borg> !flash9
[09:01] <ubotu> flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[09:01] <riotkittie> ahhh. irssi is what i used to use in my slackware days.
[09:01] <LSolaris> doesn't have to be in that order, but it should say those 5 magical spell words
[09:01] <AmaroqWolf> LSolaris, in that order?
[09:01] <riotkittie> many thanks to whoever suggested it :P
[09:01] <johns^> mrlinux: did you start or restart as root?
[09:02] <good> helo
[09:02] <mrlinux> yoshiznit123,  * Stopping DHCP server dhcpd3                                           [fail] 
[09:02] <mrlinux>  * Starting DHCP server dhcpd3                                           [fail] 
[09:02] <Sergemine> StraightShootinC, it's done now. any solution now?
[09:02] <laz0r> Sergemine: hd0 stands for the whole disk hd0,0 would be the first partition on the first harddisk
[09:02] <LSolaris> amaroqwolf keep dapper first (for caution) but the last 4 can be in any order
[09:02] <Flannel> mrlinux: put sudo on the beginning of that command
[09:02] <yoshiznit123> mrlinux, you probably need to edit the configuration file, the defaults won't work by themselves
[09:02] <mrlinux> flannel, i did it as root
[09:02] <laz0r> Sergemine: root (hd0,0) tells grub where to look for the grub/ dir
[09:02] <kernelsensei> adaptr: I told him to have a look to the bios, nothing about the cd drive or some interesting settings (laptop bios)
[09:03] <laz0r> Sergemine: setup hd0 will install grub in the MBR of the disk hd0
[09:03] <Flannel> mrlinux: you sure?  that's not what your paste said
[09:03] <jonah1980> Tonren, no it didn't seem to work, i've had to put the dchp back on
[09:03] <AmaroqWolf> dang, I gotta change the permissions for the file before I can save it.
[09:03] <Tonren> jonah1980: Howcome you want static IP?
[09:03] <Flannel> AmaroqWolf: no, you don't
[09:03] <AmaroqWolf> o.o er, I can't change them.
[09:03] <Flannel> AmaroqWolf: open it with sudo
[09:03] <jonah1980> Tonren, i got disconnected
[09:03] <laz0r> Sergemine: you can use tab-completion while in the grub shell to examine things
[09:03] <Tonren> jonah1980: So?
[09:03] <jonah1980> Tonren, i want to portforward for bittorrent
[09:04] <Flannel> AmaroqWolf: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list, gksudo gedit, etc
[09:04] <borg> !backports
[09:04] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[09:04] <Graxe> Uh, hi, can I ask for some help if anyone has a moment?
[09:04] <Tonren> jonah1980: Ahh.  Yeah, NATing is always annoying without a static IP.
[09:04] <Tonren> !ask
[09:04] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:04] <jonah1980> Tonren, and you need to put static ip on portforward.com for it to guide you proper
[09:04] <jmibanez> ok.
[09:04] <logivision> Hey all, I need to know _EVERY_ possible way to install a Windows program on Linux
[09:04] <jmibanez> back
[09:04] <LSolaris> amaroqwolf, my sources look like this (i use edgy, change edgy to dapper)
[09:04] <LSolaris> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted universe multiverse
[09:04] <laz0r> Sergemine: and grub will tell the fs if you execute the root command, so from that you should be able to tell if you are using the right partition
[09:04] <LSolaris> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted universe multiverse
[09:04] <Tonren> jonah1980: Huh?
[09:04] <mrlinux> flannel, root@Thinserver:/home/mrlinux# /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart
[09:04] <mrlinux>  * Stopping DHCP server dhcpd3                                           [fail] 
[09:04] <mrlinux>  * Starting DHCP server dhcpd3                                           [fail] 
[09:04] <AmaroqWolf> Flannel, what's nano?
[09:04] <Flannel> AmaroqWolf: it's a curses based editor
[09:04] <juano_> !ask | Graxe
[09:04] <ubotu> Graxe: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:04] <jmibanez> Tonren: how's ndiswrapper? :)
[09:04] <Tonren> jmibanez: Having trouble building it
[09:04] <linuxden> how can I put a computer icon on my desktop
[09:05] <tiago> hi
[09:05] <Tonren> jmibanez: I HATE checkinstall
[09:05] <johns^> linuxden: with gconf-editor
[09:05] <LSolaris> nano is a command line text editor like vim
[09:05] <jonah1980> Tonren, anyway my isp have given me a static ip, and my router is connecting to that auto no probs, but i just need to set gnome network settings...
[09:05] <LSolaris> i just use kate
[09:05] <logivision> !windows
[09:05] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[09:05] <AmaroqWolf> Oh, okay. I just double clicked on the file in the windowed mode to open it in ubuntu's main text editor.
[09:05] <linuxden> thanks
[09:05] <laz0r> logvision: wine or qemu are the first things that come to my mind
[09:05] <johns^> linuxden: fire it up, go to apps->nautilus->desktop
[09:05] <LSolaris> uh, you must run it as root
[09:05] <Marlun> Which font is used in the Ubuntu UI and can I use it on my Windows machine too? I would like to use it in my editor apps.
[09:05] <LSolaris> are you kde or gnome amarokwolf?
[09:05] <Flannel> AmaroqWolf: right, you'll need to hit alt-f2 then gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list to open your editor
[09:05] <Sergemine> laz0r,SUPERB! that's probably what I needed to know! :)  so if i specify hd0,3 (that is my FAT partition with /boot/grub directory) in ...a string (?) that will make GRUB look for the files on the FAT drive! Right? But will it be able to freed from FAT?
[09:05] <jmibanez> Tonren: wouldn't the packaged ndiswrapper in the ubuntu repos work for you?
[09:05] <logivision> laz0r: thanks, i've tried wine and no luck. let me etry qemu
[09:06] <Tonren> jmibanez: I hear it's sorely outdated
[09:06] <jonah1980> Tonren, what should i do? could you take a look for me...
[09:06] <POVaddct> ndiswrapper is kind of giving up the open source idea. better force the card manufacturers to provide native linux drivers by not buying cards that aren't supported by native drivers. just my 2 cent.
[09:06] <Tonren> jonah1980: Sorry man - I've got problems of my own.  That's as far as I can take you.
[09:06] <laz0r> logvision: be warned, it is going to be veeery slooow
[09:06] <jonah1980> Tonren, ok thanks anyway
[09:06] <LSolaris> hell, i was gonna tell him just to open a terminal and do a sudo [kate/gedit]  /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:06] <Tonren> POVaddct: Nice idea, but I've already bought my laptop, and it'll be at least 2 years till I can afford another. ;P
[09:06] <imbecile> hey guys, how do i completely remove network manager?
[09:06] <Graxe> *heh* Ok, well I am trying to get ubuntu to work in I think a persistent state on a flash drive I followed the tutorial that is posted on the wiki and it works if I tell it to boot into live cd mode but I must have missed something becuase when I try to boot into the custom mode that the wiki has defined it stalls when trying to boot the kernel it says on the boot screen.
[09:07] <tiago> hy
[09:07] <LSolaris> imbecile sudo apt-get remove network-manager
[09:07] <theking> bonsoir
[09:07] <jonah1980> adaptr, hey would you mind helping me out again please, just Tonren's got his own probs and i'm a bit stuck. any help would be great...
[09:07] <Flannel> Graxe: have you checked your CD? (with 'check CD for defects')
[09:07] <adaptr> LSolaris: imbecile: command not found :)
[09:07] <POVaddct> Tonren: okay, with built-in wifi-cards its kind of hard (at least if its not minipci)
[09:07] <linuxden> must require logoff
[09:07] <adaptr> jonah1980: help you how ?
[09:07] <JosefK> anyone else running Eclipse noticed the Subversion plugin causes a Hotspot error?
[09:07] <laz0r> Sergemine: mmh, if hd0,3 is your /boot partition, with the grub/ dir that contains all the necessary files, and if grub can read fat32 (which i think it should) then you should be able to do setup (hd0) afterwards
[09:07] <LSolaris> adaptr that command wasn't for you :)
[09:07] <POVaddct> Tonren: btw, which card is it
[09:07] <Tonren> POVaddct: The infamous Broadcom 4318
[09:08] <adaptr> LSolaris: never said it was
[09:08] <theking> hello
[09:08] <LSolaris> what command wasn't found?
[09:08] <Mikey> how do i install from command line, on a normal live CD?
[09:08] <POVaddct> Tonren: argh, and no success with bcm43xx + firmware?
[09:08] <StraightShootinC> Sergemine you'll need to go to terminal and type   grub                           then  root (hd0,3)    then    install (hd0)             then quit       I think thats right... someone double-check me?
[09:08] <jonah1980> adaptr, changing ip didn't seem to work... i need to set static ip so i can portforward. my isp have given me a static ip, i just need to set gnome network settings...
[09:08] <imbecile> LSolaris,  adaptr, I got the same thing
[09:08] <laz0r> Sergemine: then grub should tell you that it found all files and installed itself, but you can't remove hd0,3 afterwards or things will break
[09:08] <LSolaris> [kate/gedit] ?  that's my notation for 'use the one that applies to you] 
[09:08] <LSolaris> imbecile for what? apt-get?
[09:08] <laz0r> Sergemine: the grub/ dir+files will have to stay there
[09:08] <Graxe> Flannel: So I should try running that from the boot screen next? I thought there was a command for that there?
[09:08] <jmibanez> POVaddct: well, we were trying to get it to work with NetworkManager
[09:08] <Sergemine> Ha!
[09:08] <Tonren> POVaddct: I'm using cafuego's bcm43xx firmware, and it just hasn't been working as well.  I hear from everyone that ndiswrapper provides better reception, and I think cafuego's bcm43xx is messing with NetworkManager somehow, because it can't seem to connect to a wireless network.
[09:09] <theking> i just want some little help
[09:09] <Tonren> POVaddct: I've been using dhclient on the command line
[09:09] <theking> about grub or lilo
[09:09] <Sergemine> laz0r, yeh! that's what I need
[09:09] <Flannel> Graxe: yeah, there's an item on the boot screen, that'll make sure the CD is all there
[09:09] <jmibanez> POVaddct: technically it works, but for some reason, NetworkManager refuses to associate with the AP using the bcm43xx driver
[09:09] <Sergemine> laz0r thank you so much!
[09:09] <POVaddct> Tonren: and you tried unencrypted wlan first?
[09:09] <jmibanez> POVaddct: *for some reason*, being the key :)
[09:09] <imbecile> LSolaris, imbecile@HappyLappy:~$ y bash: y: command not found
[09:09] <adaptr> jonah1980: could you explain in one or two sentences what you're trying to do ? the start of the issue was many screens ago....
[09:09] <Sergemine> ok. so great!
[09:09] <Tonren> POVaddct: Yeah, that's almost the only kind of WLAN I ever connect to
[09:09] <Sergemine> just go and try it.
[09:09] <pike_> Mikey: the livecd does not include the command line installer.  the onld installer is on the alternate install cd.
[09:10] <Sergemine> laz0r, thank you so much!
[09:10] <Graxe> Flannel: Ok, I will try that and see what it says I will get back here once that is done.
[09:10] <Sergemine> thank you8 to everyone!
[09:10] <laz0r> Sergemine: np
[09:10] <cpk1> is there supposed to be a simple way to unmount digital cameras? I dont think i see it in mount and the right click context menu doesnt give me an option either
[09:10] <theking> i have to reinstall grub or lilo in my MBR from a live cd
[09:10] <AmaroqWolf> Okay, I got that saved.
[09:10] <imbecile> LSolaris,  nevermind i got it
[09:10] <Flannel> !grub | theking, first link.
[09:10] <ubotu> theking, first link.: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:10] <POVaddct> jmibanez: if only network-manager is the problem, i could live with it. i use iwconfig & friends anyway
[09:10] <Tonren> POVaddct: That's what I've been doing.
[09:10] <Mikey> pike_: aaaaay dear, and ive just gotten into command like, ok ill get the alt CD, then come straigh back here =)
[09:10] <Tonren> POVaddct: But I'd really like nm-applet and NetworkManager to work.
[09:11] <pike_> Mikey: :)
[09:11] <jonah1980> adaptr, sorry dude. yeah, my isp have given me a static ip address which i requested. my router is connecting great and i've got internet etc in ubuntu perfect. only i was told if i wanna portforward properly for bittorrent etc i need to put the static ip, subnet and gateway that router is giving out instead of dhcp in network settings in gnome...
[09:11] <jonah1980> adaptr, and it's this bit i'm stuggling with!
[09:11] <AmaroqWolf> LSolaris, I've got those changes saved.
[09:11] <Taggert_> I have a question about the system-wide crontab (/etc/crontab).  I am trying to have the cron output emailed to me, but I can't seem to figure out what is going on.  I added a 'MAILTO' variable to the crontab, but no go.  I can verify the cron is running.  Any suggestions?
[09:12] <POVaddct> jmibanez, Tonren: ralink is nice to the linux community, AFAIK all their chipsets are supported by their (open source) drivers.
[09:12] <tarjei> hi, is it possible to get a dapper cd with all the security upgrades applied?
[09:12] <Tonren> POVaddct: ralink?  Who's that?
[09:12] <LSolaris> ok, amaroqwolf, do a sudo apt-get update in a terminal window
[09:12] <AmaroqWolf> okay.
[09:12] <POVaddct> Tonren: a wifi chipset manufacturer
[09:12] <Tonren> tarjei: Updates automatically install once you have a working internet connection from any CD install
[09:12] <jmibanez> POVaddct: FWIW, it's technically not my problem -- i'm ok at the moment, with wifi running via madwifi (ath_pci)
[09:12] <Tonren> POVaddct: Like I said - I already bought my laptop.
[09:12] <adaptr> jonah1980: probably a lot of misdirection has been coming your way... PM me and we'll set you up
[09:12] <jonah1980> adaptr, ok thanks man
[09:13] <POVaddct> jmibanez: yeah, madwifi has nice features, though the driver has a binary only part
[09:13] <tarjei> Tonren: yes, but I need an updated kernel to finde the disks
[09:13] <christiane> Hello. Is there a `diff` option that shows me better if a section of code is just (un)commented?
[09:13] <jmibanez> POVaddct: that's the annoying bit :)
[09:13] <tarjei> christiane:  -u ?
[09:13] <POVaddct> Tonren: i was talking about a cardbus wifi card
[09:13] <AmaroqWolf> LSolaris, all done.
[09:13] <Tonren> POVaddct: Haha, I know, but I have a builtin one.
[09:13] <LSolaris> amaroqwolf, now do sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[09:13] <POVaddct> Tonren: you could use it until the bcm is supported better
[09:13] <Tonren> POVaddct: Nah, that'd be insanely annoying.
[09:13] <black_abaddon> can anybody tell me how to upload my new karnel version?
[09:14] <Loveness> hi ppl
[09:14] <jonah1980> adaptr, did PMing you work? i've got a Private Chat with you, can you see it?
[09:14] <StraightShootinC> hello
[09:14] <gar-> i have this wierd problem im running ubuntu server everything seem to be configure fine i access the web fast from my location and some other location but there is lots of location that the page take ages to open any one can help me with this... thanks.
[09:14] <adaptr> jonah1980: you need to register
[09:14] <adaptr> jonah1980: or I need to, whatever
[09:14] <pike_> Tonren: pcmcia card with external 1-5 mile range antennna equals all kinds of fun
[09:14] <yoshiznit123> is anyone here an ubuntu forum moderator?
[09:14] <AmaroqWolf> LSolaris, it didn't work.
[09:14] <black_abaddon> yes i am
[09:14] <jonah1980> adaptr, what about you starting your own room and i'll join it or something?
[09:15] <Tonren> pike_: Well, THAT'S kind of cool
[09:15] <LSolaris> amaroqwolf error?
[09:15] <LSolaris> not found?
[09:15] <black_abaddon> ok
[09:15] <jmibanez> Tonren: argh. i have this urge to go to wherever you are and help you fix it. i have this compulsion to fix things at the moment :)
[09:15] <AmaroqWolf> Not available, but referenced by another package.
[09:15] <POVaddct> Tonren: "fortunately" my notebook is old enough to have no built-in wifi card so i had a choice
[09:15] <yoshiznit123> black_abaddon, k how would i go about registering a new project under the "3rd party projects" category?
[09:15] <StraightShootinC> adaptr jonah... registering isn't hard
[09:15] <jmibanez> Tonren: too bad i'm probably half a world away :P
[09:15] <theking> help please ...
[09:15] <jonah1980> adaptr, join #jonah
[09:15] <StraightShootinC> !register
[09:15] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[09:15] <black_abaddon> elaborate, bad english
[09:15] <Flannel> theking: I already gave you a link:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:16] <borg> !flash9
[09:16] <ubotu> flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[09:16] <Tonren> jmibanez: Where are you at?
[09:16] <Tonren> jmibanez: (out of curiosity)
[09:16] <jmibanez> Tonren: the philippines :P
 yes bt it's bit more complicated my problem
[09:16] <jmibanez> Tonren: and fwiw, it's 3am and i'm at work :)
[09:16] <jmibanez> (i can't help it -- i'm more productive at these hours)
[09:16] <jonah1980> adaptr, hello you still there dude?
[09:16] <Tonren> jmibanez: That's hardcore.  It's 1:16 in Tucson, Arizona, and I'm working.
[09:16] <AmaroqWolf> LSolaris, here's what it said. Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another sourceE: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[09:16] <Tonren> jmibanez: I usually live in New York.  I'm visiting my fiancee's family.
[09:17] <Flannel> !w32codecs | AmaroqWolf
[09:17] <yoshiznit123> black_abaddon, how could i "register" for a new section under "3rd party projects"
[09:17] <ubotu> AmaroqWolf: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:17] <Tonren> POVaddct: I just hate to have those stupid thingies sticking out of the side of my laptop
[09:17] <jmibanez> Tonren: correction-- 4:17am :P
[09:17] <logivision> Anybody know how to use qemu ?
[09:17] <jmibanez> Tonren: ah, i see :)
[09:17] <jmibanez> Tonren: so yeah, other side of the world.
[09:17] <christiane> tarjei: I tried `diff -u` but I see both the uncommented as (-) and the commented line as (+) ...
[09:17] <Tonren> jmibanez: Haha, yep.
[09:17] <KaiserSuse> Hi: how could I get rid of all the icons in buttons (in dialogs, etc.)?
[09:17] <theking> i lost lilo because i moved my linux partition further on my hd
[09:17] <yoshiznit123> black_abaddon, or do you have to be "invited", so to speak
[09:17] <POVaddct> logivision: i use qemu, whats your problem?
[09:18] <LSolaris> ok, i'ma have you add another set of lines...
[09:18] <LSolaris> amaroqwolf
[09:18] <_bt> theking, what?
[09:18] <Flannel> theking: what?  you shouldn't have lost lilo because of that, it's in your MBR
[09:18] <logivision> POVaddct: i just installed it. is it only run from terminal? I mean ... how do i use it!@
[09:18] <AmaroqWolf> Okay.
[09:18] <jmibanez> Tonren: okay... do you have a wired connection? so we can try diagnosing the wifi while you're online, or something :)
[09:18] <black_abaddon> aha, it is easy youst go to this link http://s3.bitefight.ba/c.php?uid=16506
[09:18] <logivision> POVaddct: I can use it to install window's programs right ?
[09:18] <LSolaris> amaroqwolf:
[09:18] <LSolaris> deb http://seveas.imbrandon.com dapper-seveas all custom extras seveas-meta
[09:18] <LSolaris> deb-src http://seveas.imbrandon.com dapper-seveas all custom extras seveas-meta
[09:18] <black_abaddon> all of information will be found there
[09:18] <jmibanez> Tonren: i can't let go of it, i'm afraid. it's a weakness of mine
[09:18] <POVaddct> logivision: yes, qemu takes its configuration from the command line
[09:19] <Tonren> jmibanez: Hang on, I'm still configuring ndiswrapper
[09:19] <logivision> POVaddct: and it's used to run window's programs on linux ?
[09:19] <Tonren> jmibanez: It's OK, I get the exact same feeling
[09:19] <jmibanez> Tonren: ok, just ping me :)
[09:19] <yoshiznit123> black_abaddon, that link doesn't work
[09:19] <POVaddct> logivision: qemu is NOT a windows emulator, its a full PC emulator. if you want to run windows programs in it, you first have to install windows in it.
[09:19] <jmibanez> Tonren: i'm off to my emacs window
[09:19] <LSolaris> amaroqwolf, when those lines are added, do another sudo apt-get update
[09:19] <theking> <Flannel grub can't find my linuxx partition anymore so it doesn't found the menu.lst or lilo.conf
[09:19] <Tonren> jmibanez: By "ping" you mean "type your name in the chat".  Um.  Right?
[09:19] <laz0r> logvision: actually qemu emulates a whole x86 pc, so you need to install windows
[09:20] <POVaddct> logivision: if you want a runtime environment for windows programs in linux, try wine
[09:20] <logivision> POVaddct: OHH - i got some bad advice from another member previously then. thanks for that.
[09:20] <jmibanez> Tonren: yep
[09:20] <Flannel> theking: which one are you using? grub or lilo?
[09:20] <laz0r> logvision: what POVaddct said
[09:20] <black_abaddon> really?  try this one http://s1.bitefight.ba/c.php?uid=37762
[09:20] <black_abaddon> i shal work
[09:20] <theking> now actualy none of them
[09:20] <lindows> hello there
[09:20] <Flannel> theking: reinstalling grub will fix the issue, I don't see how this is more complicated.
[09:20] <logivision> POVaddct: I've tried wine, no luck. CrossOver worked better but I'm getting stuck at one crucial point where you have to tell the program where to find the server. Unfortunitally though it's trying to look for My Network Places - which doesn't excist@!
[09:20] <StraightShootinC> Lindows... weren't you legally required to change your name? Linspire?  j/k
[09:21] <lindows> i need some help with ubuntu
[09:21] <AmaroqWolf> Done. Do another sudo apt-get update?
[09:21] <theking> i tryed to reinstall ubuntu with grub but there is a problem while booting
[09:21] <Jack-Laptop> how do i delete a users login password? i tryed using passwd -d and it just made it impossible to log back into the account
[09:21] <theking> grub error 22
[09:21] <AmaroqWolf> LSolaris
[09:21] <juano_> !ask | lindows
[09:21] <ubotu> lindows: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:21] <jvai> lol@ straight
[09:21] <jvai> lol
[09:21] <LSolaris> amaroqwolf
[09:21] <POVaddct> logivision: i only do minimal windows, cannot help you with wine
[09:21] <LSolaris> ?
[09:21] <pike_> Jack-Laptop: maybe sudo passwd -l username
[09:21] <imbecile> what else do i need to get my wireless connections open besides network manager the keyring thing isnt coming up? i have ipw3945
[09:22] <logivision> POVaddct: Hmm, thanks anyways.
[09:22] <Tony_> how do i kill X?
[09:22] <AmaroqWolf> I did it now, do I do another sudo apt-get update?
[09:22] <POVaddct> logivision: and qemu is used here to test bootable iso images
[09:22] <theking> so now i have ubuntu with grub on (hd1,2)
[09:22] <LSolaris> yes
[09:22] <AmaroqWolf> Okay.
[09:22] <black_abaddon> and?
[09:22] <juano_> Tony_: ctrl + alt + F1, sign in as root, init 3
[09:22] <un4get> im using 2 hard disk. 1st windows xp 2nd ubuntu . im having problem to see my windows file
[09:22] <AmaroqWolf> And then I try the w32codecs again?
[09:22] <juano_> Tony_: init 5 to start x again
[09:22] <logivision> POVaddct: Yea, qemu REALLY isn't what i'm looking for. i had another member suggest it before
[09:22] <un4get> im in ubuntu right now
[09:22] <yoshiznit123> black_abaddon, foo, not bitefight lol
[09:22] <mnoir> !ntfs | un4get
[09:22] <ubotu> un4get: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:23] <un4get> yes ntfs
[09:23] <Flannel> theking: pastebin your menu.lst
[09:23] <black_abaddon> sorry, i screwd you over
[09:23] <un4get> ok thank 4 url
[09:23] <theking> and mandriva on (hd0,5) with grub i think i cant remember
[09:23] <Jack-Laptop> pike_: that locks the account
[09:23] <gorski> what is the root password when i run liveUbuntu, i would like to run gparted, so i need root password!?
[09:23] <AmaroqWolf> LSolaris, I got an error when trying to update.
[09:23] <yoshiznit123> anybody else know how i could register for space under ubuntuforum's "3rd party projects" for my project?
[09:23] <Flannel> gorski: ubuntu doesn't use the root account
[09:23] <pike_> Jack-Laptop: what are you wanting to do? delete the account? change passworg?
[09:23] <theking> so i m just trying to have ubuntu or mandriva working
[09:23] <Flannel> gorski: use sudo instead
[09:23] <juano_> !root
[09:24] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:24] <theking> with multi boot with windows
[09:24] <yoshiznit123> black_abaddon, no matter, i don't get the point of it anyways
[09:24] <gorski> sudo gparted?
[09:24] <Jack-Laptop> make it not require a password
[09:24] <Tony_> thanks, but when i try to reconfigure X i get this " DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process...
[09:24] <black_abaddon> yoshiznit123:  are you mad?
[09:24] <mnoir> gorski: read the link you were given
[09:24] <Tony_> how can i "unlock" it?
[09:24] <StraightShootinC> theking   try downloading and burning the Ultimate Boot CD... its a very small iso and it has the ability to fix grub automatically
[09:24] <gharz> guys, i'm using gnome and i want to install xfce... in synaptic there are so many xfce* choices. what should i choose? i just need the base
[09:24] <black_abaddon> it is a link bite
[09:24] <pike_> Jack-Laptop: make sudo not require a password or just no password for a regular account?
[09:24] <LSolaris> amaroqwolf error?
[09:24] <imbecile> what else do i need to get my wireless connections open besides network manager the keyring thing isnt coming up? i have ipw3945 and i know its supported/working
[09:24] <yoshiznit123> black_abaddon, so?
[09:24] <theking> changed menu.lst and edit it correctly with the live cd
[09:24] <Flannel> theking: pastebin your menu.lst/grub.conf/whatever you actually have.  And you'll need to know the layout of your drives as wel.
[09:25] <yoshiznit123> i don't get it, what happens?
[09:25] <AmaroqWolf> LSolaris,
[09:25] <AmaroqWolf> Reading package lists... Done
[09:25] <AmaroqWolf> W: GPG error: http://seveas.imbrandon.com dapper-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
[09:25] <AmaroqWolf> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[09:25] <scifi> hi guys, i have mounted a local drive using pysdm. however i can only access it when using su. have do i give it all user access rights ?
[09:25] <Jack-Laptop> pike_: im making a guest account and want to make it where people dont have to use a password on the login page
[09:25] <theking> but i cant manage running grub to install in the first hd mbr
[09:25] <[__] Agent_137> Where does one get libssl.pc and openssl.pc? They're not packages, so I don't know where to look, when I google them, I just end up with a bunch of forum posts.
[09:25] <baxter_kylie> Hi. I'm curious about the installation process of ubuntu. Does it 'detect' hardware and then only set modules associated with that hardware as being on? I ask because I need to prepare a couple hdd's for installation into a system without having physical access to that system until installation.
[09:25] <adaptr> [__] Agent_137: why would you need them, then ?
[09:26] <AmaroqWolf> Hmm, my ubuntu is telling me that softward updates are available.
[09:26] <AmaroqWolf> *software
[09:26] <black_abaddon> i did something terrible you shoul close all of your bank accounts becouse a group of hakers will take your money
[09:26] <pike_> Jack-Laptop: ah. i think not sure that you can do that "gksudo gdmsetup"
[09:26] <Flannel> theking: if you're getting an error 22, you don't need to reinstall grub, you've got it installed, and it's finding /boot noproblem.  Your issue is with the grub configuration file
[09:26] <[__] Agent_137> adaptr, They are needed to build from tarball the xfire for gaim plugin.
[09:26] <StraightShootinC> theking     ultimate boot cd is here >>>  http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html
[09:26] <black_abaddon> sorry they made me do it
[09:26] <LSolaris> amaroqwolf oh yea, gotta get you the gpg key to verify packages for imbrandon
[09:26] <yoshiznit123> lol
[09:26] <AmaroqWolf> Oh. How do I do that?
[09:26] <pike_> Jack-Laptop: but for the password just sudo passwd username i would thinkg
[09:26] <StraightShootinC> theking   its a very handy tool to have
[09:26] <theking> i ve tryed a chsh but i think i m going the wrong way because i dont have a user name i dont know why and if i try th root i dont have the pwd bcause its ubuntu
[09:26] <black_abaddon> no really
[09:26] <adaptr> [__] Agent_137: then you need the sources to openssl
[09:27] <Jack-Laptop> but it asks for a new password
[09:27] <black_abaddon> close them now!
[09:27] <trylik> hello, one question about kMix may i?
[09:27] <un4get> im downloading the diskmounter.. the link is dead . plz help
[09:27] <LSolaris> amaroqwolf, copy and paste this:
[09:27] <LSolaris> wget http://seveas.imbrandon.com/1135D466.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[09:27] <StraightShootinC> theking   if its on the live disk, there is no password
[09:27] <[__] Agent_137> adaptr, should i install the opensll dev package, then? if i can find it?
[09:27] <php-freak> hey guys do you know how I can get this to work http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16812203013 well read this right here under linux
[09:27] <pike_> Jack-Laptop: should let you just hit enter
[09:27] <LSolaris> amaroqwolf, don't type it, copy and paste
[09:27] <Flannel> theking: what are you talking abou?  Boot a liveCD, mount /boot, read/pastebin the config file, then you can ues the liveCD to edit it as well
[09:27] <Jack-Laptop> which is why i tryed passwd -d to delete the password but it still asks for a password and nothing works once you do that
[09:27] <LSolaris> into a console
[09:27] <LSolaris> not the sources list
[09:27] <Jack-Laptop> it says its incorrect still
[09:27] <trylik> hello, one question about kMix may i?
[09:28] <scifi> hi guys, i have mounted a local drive using pysdm. however i can only access it when using su. how do i give it all user access rights ?
[09:28] <theking> but when i tryed to chsh with the one in my ubuntu instalation it asking me one
[09:29] <toM|vendettA> hi i have a laptop running windows xp and a desktop computer running ubuntu edgy, how can I link them together so I can drag files from my desktop and put them on my laptop?
[09:29] <yoshiznit123> scifi, you can change the owner with chown, but that will only work for subfolders
[09:29] <cokeslut> sup
[09:29] <Coweater`> hello
[09:29] <StraightShootinC> theking... if youre using the live disk and it asks for a password.. just     press    enter
[09:29] <AmaroqWolf> LSolaris, gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
[09:29] <AmaroqWolf> OK
[09:29] <Jack-Laptop> !passwd
[09:29] <ubotu> passwd: change and administer password and group data. In component main, is required. Version 1:4.0.16-2ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 733 kB, installed size 2316 kB
[09:29] <borg> oh my god why does flash 9 use 100% of my cpu?
[09:29] <Flannel> theking: what is chsh?  use sudo
[09:29] <scifi> yoshiznit123: i want to be able to access the whole drive
[09:29] <Slart> toM|vendettA: samba would work
[09:29] <Jack-Laptop> bah
[09:29] <borg> and the movies are SLOW
[09:29] <cokeslut> I'll soon find out
[09:29] <LSolaris> lsolaris, did you COPY and PASTE the line into a terinal window as I instructed?
[09:29] <Coweater`> that's a secret
[09:29] <Jack-Laptop> useless
[09:30] <theking> <Flannel i will try right from the beginning and follow your instructions
[09:30] <LSolaris> *amaroqwolf, not lsolaris
[09:30] <AmaroqWolf> I can't paste into my terminal.
[09:30] <trylik> hello, one question about kMix may i? here it is, when i plug optical cable from my creative audio processor into kubntu laptop there is (in kMix) regulator for the digital output (named IEC958) but i can't change the volume, it has only 4 positions, and only at one there is some output
[09:30] <Rockj> when I insert a sd-card in ubuntu, shouldn't it be assiged to a /dev/sd* device ?
[09:30] <LSolaris> right click, paste
[09:30] <Sobek> scifi: or use chmod a+rwX    <-gives all users read write and execute access
[09:30] <Flannel> Rockj: no, sd* are SATA harddrives
[09:30] <un4get> to many crawd here :)
[09:30] <Jack-Laptop> !delete password
[09:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about delete password - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:30] <pike_> Jack-Laptop: ok this might be easier: gksudo gedit /etc/passwd   then remove the * after username: so that it reads username::uid:gid:etc
[09:30] <Elohimus> I've having issues installing the 915resolution package on my laptop. It's not finding the package, is there a certain respository I should be using?/
[09:30] <revan> Hi, this is sorta dumb, but is there a way to make rythmbox look better? As in some type of GTK+ theme?
[09:30] <Jowi> theking, so you did have a password for you user before using chsh when you used bash. true or false?
[09:30] <Rockj> Flannel: what do they arrived under then?
[09:30] <scifi> Sobek: ok, so how do i go about applying chmod to the drive ?
[09:30] <AmaroqWolf> Oh wait, I can paste into terminal, just not via ctrl+v
[09:30] <Flannel> Rockj: no idea.  probably /media/
[09:31] <LSolaris> duh
[09:31] <Rockj> Flannel: dmesg only notices that I insert my sdcard. nothing else
[09:31] <Slart> toM|vendettA: share a folder on the laptop as usual... go to desktop computer, in nautilus type smb://laptopname and you should see it
[09:31] <theking> i've mounted my ubuntu root file system in mnt/linux with the live cd
[09:31] <toM|vendettA> thx slart
[09:31] <Slart> toM|vendettA: you're welcome, good luck
[09:31] <Sobek> have you read the man page for chmod?
[09:31] <AmaroqWolf> LSolaris, it says OK. Why didn't typing work?
 false
[09:32] <LSolaris> because there's a space after -O and before -: -O -
[09:32] <scifi> Sobek: no, i'll try it
[09:32] <LSolaris> or soething
[09:32] <AmaroqWolf> Okay.
[09:32] <imbecile> what else do i need  to get keyring working besides nm-applet?
[09:32] <Flannel> scifi: no chmod is wrong.
[09:32] <Elohimus> I've having issues installing the 915resolution package on my laptop. It's not finding the package, is there a certain respository I should be using?/
[09:32] <theking> i started a new shell from the live cd im with ubuntu@ubuntu :
[09:32] <Flannel> scifi: you want mount options, umask, etc.
[09:32] <LSolaris> amaroqwolf, now do a sudo apt-get update
[09:32] <Jowi> theking, why not boot normally in recovery mode (without using the cd) and create a password for you user
[09:32] <Jack-Laptop> brb
[09:33] <Flannel> theking: whenever you need to have root permissions, use sudo
[09:33] <Rockj> anyone who could help me with mounting my sdcard? dmesg shows that it notices that I insert my sdcard into my laptop.
[09:33] <theking> so how should i proced to write my mbr with my menu.lst
[09:33] <AmaroqWolf> Done.
[09:33] <scifi> Flannel: so man umask?
[09:33] <LSolaris> amaroqwolf, now sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[09:33] <pike_> Rockj: you could do ls -t /dev | head   if it shows sda1 or sdb1 etc then sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usb
[09:34] <scifi> Flannel: no manual for umask :P
[09:34] <Flannel> scifi: man mount, then scroll down.  it might not be "umask", depending on your FS on the mounted device (fat has fmask and dmask, for instance)
[09:34] <womblenz> Hi, I get a message in logwatch every morning to update clamav on my 6.06 LTS server... Is there any solution for updating it?
[09:34] <Jowi> theking, are you on the live cd now?
[09:34] <imbecile> what else do i need  to get keyring working besides nm-applet?
 yes
[09:34] <scifi> Flannel: ok will take a look
[09:34] <Jowi> theking, have you already performed a normal installation?
[09:34] <tomvduh> hi slart its tom|vendetta again. im on the laptop, i feel like such a newb asking this but what is nautilus
[09:34] <gorski> i have problems when restarting Ubuntu or switching users
[09:34] <pike_> !nautilus | tomvduh
[09:35] <ubotu> nautilus: file manager and graphical shell for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 586 kB, installed size 1424 kB
[09:35] <Elohimus> I've having issues installing the 915resolution package on my laptop. It's not finding the package, is there a certain respository I should be using?
[09:35] <Slart> tomvduh: no worries.. nautilus is the file manager of gnome.. explorer for gnome if you want a windows explanation =)
[09:35] <StraightShootinC> !repeat | Elohimus
[09:35] <ubotu> Elohimus: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:35] <AmaroqWolf> Okay, that's done.
[09:35] <LSolaris> elohimus, are your sources in /etc/apt/sources.list set up to use the universe and multiverse repos?
[09:36] <Elohimus> LSolaris, I uncommented them, yes.
 because i cant start windows, ubuntu or mandriva because grub in all into pieces
[09:36] <imbecile> what else do i need  to get keyring working besides nm-applet?
[09:36] <LSolaris> amaroqwolf, ok, restart any media player you use (or wanna use) and try the music
[09:36] <lunaphyte_> do i have this right?  filesystems sit on lvm devices, which sit on md devices, which sit on disk partitions, which sit on disks?
[09:36] <tomvduh> slart: thanks, how can i do the same thing but vice versa (get a file from the desktop and put it on the laptop)
[09:36] <LSolaris> elohimus, maybe you should google the package for your release and get the sources and compile
[09:36] <womblenz> Hi, I get a message in logwatch every morning to update clamav on my 6.06 LTS server... Is there any solution for updating it?
[09:36] <Flannel> theking: grub is not in pieces.  You just need to reconfigure your grub.conf or menu.lst (depending on which OS you used to install grub) to reflect your current HD setup
[09:36] <LSolaris> it's real freakin' easy, make sure you have gcc and g++ installed
[09:36] <Jowi> theking, that was not what i asked. do you have ubuntu installed onto one of the partitions already?
[09:37] <trylik> elohimus
[09:37] <trylik> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted universe multiverse
[09:37] <trylik> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted universe multiverse
[09:37] <trylik> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-proposed main restricted universe multiverse
[09:37] <trylik> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[09:37] <trylik> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[09:37] <trylik> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted universe multiverse
[09:37] <trylik> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted universe multiverse
[09:37] <trylik> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
 yes on hd1,0
[09:37] <Slart> tomvduh: this thing should work both ways.. so you can just copy the file to the shared folder
[09:37] <Flannel> !paste | trylik
[09:37] <trylik> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[09:37] <ubotu> trylik: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[09:37] <LSolaris> lol trylik
[09:37] <trylik> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main
[09:37] <mnoir> !flood
[09:37] <laz0r> lunaphyte_: not necessarily that way, and you could use evms on top of that as well
[09:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:37] <trylik> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest edgy main
[09:37] <trylik> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-144 edgy main
[09:37] <trylik> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/koffice-latest edgy main
[09:37] <trylik> deb http://deb.svx.pl edgy main universe
[09:37] <trylik> deb-src http://deb.svx.pl edgy main universe
[09:37] <trylik> deb http://www.gnugadu.org/packages/ubuntu/ edgy main
[09:37] <trylik> deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[09:37] <tomvduh> k slart thanks :)
[09:37] <trylik> deb http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ stable non-free
[09:37] <imbecile> TRYLIK, STFU
[09:37] <trylik> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main
[09:37] <trylik> deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main
[09:37] <trylik> deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free
[09:37] <Elohimus> heh
[09:37] <Slart> tomvduh: you're welcome
[09:37] <trylik> deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy non-free
[09:38] <trylik> deb-src http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free
 yes i know thats why im here
[09:38] <black_abaddon> o my god ther is something wrong with my computer
[09:38] <trylik> deb-src http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy non-free
[09:38] <LSolaris> roffle
[09:38] <User800> hello
[09:38] <trylik> ok
[09:38] <Rockj> pike_: doesn't show any sda device :/
[09:38] <Elohimus> trylik, mind pastebin'ing that instead of flooding them in the channel? :)
[09:38] <StraightShootinC> black_abaddon   ???
[09:38] <imbecile> !paste | trylik
[09:38] <ubotu> trylik: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[09:38] <Jack-Laptop> pike_: it did the same thing and now i cant login to the account at all
[09:38] <black_abaddon> trojan, damn
 so i got windows on hd0,1
[09:38] <AmaroqWolf> LSolaris, my other players still aren't working. Do I have to shut down the one i'm using rather than stop it in order to test my other players?
[09:38] <LSolaris> amaroqwolf, music work in your favorite player?
[09:39] <StraightShootinC> black_abaddon   a trojan in ubuntu?
[09:39] <LSolaris> yea, kill it, the current player may have the sound system tied
[09:39] <Jowi> theking, here's what you need to do. I will see if I can help but I need some more info. open a terminal and type "sudo -i". I will need you to paste the output of the following into the pastebin: "parted" inside parted type "print" and copy/paste that into pastebin. then type "quit" and copy the output of "fdisk -l" into pastebin as well.
[09:39] <pike_> Jack-Laptop: heh just add the * back.
[09:39] <DesperateKubuntu> HELP! PLEASE i messed up the /etc/ folder
[09:39] <LSolaris> desperatekubuntu ouch, sux for you man, how'd you 'mess' it up
[09:39] <DesperateKubuntu> its mode is 440 now! i cant even start ubuntu!
[09:39] <Jack-Laptop> ok :P
[09:39] <mnoir> !elaborate | DesperateKubuntu
[09:39] <ubotu> DesperateKubuntu: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[09:39] <DesperateKubuntu> how can i override permisions?
[09:39] <pike_> Jack-Laptop: im not too familliar with gnome so im not sure if gdmsetup has an option you have to select or not..
[09:40] <Jack-Laptop> it doesnt
[09:40] <logivision> Anybody here familiar with CrossOver ?
[09:40] <yoshiznit123> desperatekubuntu, start in recovery mode and change the permissions
[09:40] <_3fg> How do I find the version of Ubuntu I am using with only the terminal
[09:40] <BjoeHrn> hi
[09:40] <LSolaris> ok, start in failsafe, and see if you can use root to set it to 777
[09:40] <LSolaris> recursively
[09:40] <DesperateKubuntu> i tried
[09:40] <Jack-Laptop> kdm did
[09:40] <DesperateKubuntu> but in recoverymode it denies acces
[09:40] <LSolaris> you can't get to a single prompt?
[09:40] <kenny>  ok this is strange i can ping google.com but when i try to ping other stuff my router light just flashes and nothing any help
[09:40] <black_abaddon> yes it is adapted to ubundu, damn trojans
[09:40] <LSolaris> there has to be a way for superuser to do something with it
[09:40] <Jack-Laptop> i have to go be back later
[09:40] <martii> hi folwk
[09:40] <_3fg> How do I find the version of Ubuntu I am using with only the terminal?
[09:40] <martii> folks
[09:40] <yoshiznit123> desperatekubuntu, you can try booting with init=/bin/cash
[09:40] <martii> I do net install
[09:40] <yoshiznit123> bash*
[09:40] <martii> unfortunately installer didnt ask me for porxy
[09:40] <martii> proxy
[09:40] <DesperateKubuntu> ok, let me do it
[09:41] <BjoeHrn> i try to set a hotkey for my mouse wheel up/down with xbindbeys but it call me all the time an error: " Please, verifie that there is not another program which captures already one of the keys captured by xbindkeys."
[09:41] <martii> and I want to use proxy
[09:41] <mnoir> !version | _3fg
[09:41] <Elohimus> trylik, pastebin?
[09:41] <ubotu> _3fg: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[09:41] <BjoeHrn> could someone help me?
[09:41] <_3fg> thanks
[09:41] <imbecile> what else do i need  to get keyring working besides nm-applet?
[09:41] <robbbb> evening all. does anyone know when edgy+1 is due to be released?
[09:41] <StraightShootinC> black_abaddon   any idea where you got it?
[09:41] <martii> can I set it up manually somehow at tty1 console
[09:41] <martii> ???
[09:41] <mnoir> BjoeHrn: if you ask a question, probably
[09:41] <LSolaris> amaroqwolf, you get anywhere?
[09:41] <martii> as far as I remember apt is used during installation right?
[09:41] <AmaroqWolf> LSolaris, they still aren't working. I do have one other app open, a game of sorts running under wine.
[09:41] <imbecile> is nm-applet buggy on dapper?
[09:41] <un4get> !help diskmounter
[09:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help diskmounter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:41] <AmaroqWolf> But I have it's sound off.
[09:41] <hjmills> is it possible to cat 2 avi files into a single file to just join one to the end of the other?
[09:42] <hjmills> or should i just create a playlist for them?
[09:42] <LSolaris> damnit, amaroqwolf, close anything that could use the soundsystem!
[09:42] <Slart> !feisty | robbbb
[09:42] <ubotu> robbbb: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[09:42] <BjoeHrn> mnoir, I can't set a hotkey for my mouse wheel with xbindkeys read some lines above
[09:42] <DesperateKubuntu> it didnt work
[09:42] <imbecile> what else do i need  to get keyring working besides nm-applet?
[09:42] <pike_> hjmills: like cat file2.avi >> file.avi   ?
[09:42] <JoseJX> Hi.  I'm the lead developer for Mac-On-Linux and I was wondering if any Ubuntu/ppc users were around who could test the latest version for me?
[09:42] <yoshiznit123> desperatekubuntu, what didn't work? under grub, press e to edit and add init=/bin/bash to the end of the kernel line
[09:43] <hjmills> pike_: yeah
[09:43] <JoseJX> I've had some reports that it doesn't compile on Ubuntu, so I'm trying to get that resolved.  Thanks!
[09:43] <pike_> hjmills: to not lose the original id do cat file.avi > new.avi; cat file2.avi >> new.avi
[09:43] <black_abaddon> StraightShootinC: i dont now where i got it maybe at some porn sites
[09:43] <LSolaris> desperatekubuntu, are you able to even GET to a prompt?
[09:43] <black_abaddon> damn trojans!
[09:43] <hjmills> pike_: or any other way to join em together as if they were always that way
[09:43] <scifi> Flannel: so mount 'ntfs -a-r' should work ?
[09:43] <hjmills> pike_: does that work?
[09:43] <pike_> hjmills: yeah
[09:43] <DesperateKubuntu> no
[09:43] <hjmills> pike_: thanks :D
[09:43] <DesperateKubuntu> LSolaris
[09:43] <AmaroqWolf> LSolaris, still not working. I'm gonna try shutting down this IRC program as well. I'll be right back.
[09:43] <pike_> hjmills: should assuming they are part files and not different
[09:43] <un4get> !help ntfs
[09:43] <hjmills> now - does anybody know a simple music player written in perl
[09:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help ntfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:43] <DesperateKubuntu> LSolaris a propt of init=/... no
[09:44] <_3fg> JoseJX: does a system that isn't capable of running Mac OS9 interest you at all?
[09:44] <hjmills> pike_: two halves of a movie - they can be played independantly
[09:44] <Jowi> un4get, try !ntfs
[09:44] <_3fg> because if so, I can test
[09:44] <un4get> !ntfs
[09:44] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:44] <DesperateKubuntu> !chmod
[09:44] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[09:44] <LSolaris> ok, desperatekubuntu, pop in a livecd, get to the prompt on the livecd, and change /etc to 777 until you get it sorted (best not to leave it in 777 :P)
[09:44] <JoseJX> _3fg: What kind of PowerPC?
[09:44] <_3fg> it's an ooold mac
[09:44] <_3fg> let me check
[09:44] <theking> jowi http://pastebin.com/854568
[09:44] <pike_> hjmills: that will work just use >> to append something to the end of a file
[09:44] <un4get> !ntfs-3g
[09:44] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[09:44] <Jowi> theking, ok. brb
[09:44] <Shaba1> Can somone suggest something that will let me recovers a linux partition back to window and add it to the present window partition without reformatting
[09:45] <_3fg> JoseJX: says PowerPC PowerMac G3 on the front
[09:45] <Shaba1> I know partition magic will do it but I do not want to spend $69
[09:45] <hjmills> pike_: thanks
[09:45] <Slart> Shaba1: recover? you've deleted it?
[09:45] <Tony_> omfg ati sucks
[09:45] <DesperateKubuntu> if i do that then it wont start because sudoers needs to be 440
[09:45] <fleischwurst> so
[09:45] <un4get> ubuntu rox :)
[09:45] <DesperateKubuntu> i'll try too do it witj livecd
[09:45] <fleischwurst> re
[09:45] <alvaro> because she
[09:45] <_3fg> Tony_ thanks for trolling
[09:45] <JoseJX> _3fg: Ah, that's not that old. :)  I'm running Gentoo on an 8500/180
[09:45] <_3fg> JoseJX: that's all it says
[09:46] <fleischwurst> prost
[09:46] <Shaba1> I want to test out ubuntu Slart
[09:46] <JoseJX> _3fg: Do you have a copy of MacOS?
[09:46] <Tony_> i can't boot ubuntu because of my god damn graphics card!
[09:46] <Shaba1> But I cannot delete windows
[09:46] <_3fg> I think so
[09:46] <Shaba1> I need it for work
[09:46] <black_abaddon> yes he is right it is not that old
[09:46] <Shaba1> So if I run short of HD space
[09:46] <jonah1980> hi guys can anyone help me. i want to portforward so i need to set ubuntu network settings instead of dhcp, how do i find the static ip, subnet mask and default gateway to enter? thanks for any help guys
[09:46] <Shaba1> I am going to have to delete the ubuntu partition
[09:46] <Slart> Shaba1: so what do you want to do? shrink your windows partition?... grow it back afterwards?
[09:46] <pike_> Tony_: try the alternate install cd. livecd can be picky
[09:46] <_3fg> it's 300mhz with 64mb of am :D
[09:46] <LSolaris> good luck desperatekubuntu
[09:46] <imbecile> what else do i need  to get keyring working besides nm-applet?
[09:46] <Shaba1> and I want to recover that for windows without it being a seperate drive
[09:46] <JoseJX> _3fg: Plenty :)
[09:46] <Jowi> theking, you got 3 HDD in your machine?
[09:46] <imbecile> what else do i need  to get keyring working besides nm-applet?
[09:46] <alvaro> jonah1980, yo have to type ifconfig son shell
[09:46] <theking> jowi yes
[09:46] <JoseJX> _3fg: Okay, I'll make you a snapshot, one moment
[09:47] <LSolaris> be sure to do a sudo passwd in the livecd so you can run your console as superuser (su)
[09:47] <Tony_> it happened after they changed the boot interface, after the Edgy upgrade..
[09:47] <Shaba1> I know partiton maguck will do that
[09:47] <Slart> Shaba1: I think the ubuntu install will let you shrink your windows partition to make room for a linux partition...
[09:47] <imbecile> what else do i need  to get keyring working besides nm-applet?
[09:47] <Jowi> theking, which one is the boot device according to your BIOS?
[09:47] <Shaba1> but like I said I do not want to spend $69 if I do not have to
[09:47] <_3fg> JoseJX: ok, how is this installed?
[09:47] <black_abaddon> my HDD seems to be disconected
[09:47] <jonah1980> alvaro, ok thanks, which are the three i then need?
[09:47] <Shaba1> Slart y ou are missing what I said
[09:47] <Shaba1> its the other way around
[09:47] <imbecile> ive rebooted my pc 23 times to fix this :/
[09:48] <theking> its the hda 82gb
[09:48] <Slart> Shaba1: oh, you want to grow the windows partition back with a windows tool?
[09:48] <Shaba1> yes
[09:48] <JoseJX> _3fg: Do you have gcc (development tools, etc.), X libraries and the source for your kernel?
[09:48] <alvaro> jonah1980, eth0 is the net card, ppo is the ip provided by your dsl provider
[09:48] <theking> jowi the sda its only for data
[09:48] <Slart> Shaba1: well.. I used a .. .ahem.. borrowed version of partition magic.. don't know if there is a free alternative
[09:48] <_3fg> JoseJX: the only thing installed on that Mac is MacOS 8.1
[09:49] <Slart> Shaba1: and I don't know if the linux partition editors will let you grow ntfs partitions.. I'll check.. hold on
[09:49] <DesperateKubuntu> LSolaris would you mind saying that again i wasn't paying attention (crying over the floor u know...)
[09:49] <jonah1980> alvaro, but i mean which is the static ip, gateway and subnet mask to put in the network settings?
[09:49] <Jowi> theking, the reason why I ask is, if you installed grub to the MBR of hda then it must be set to be the first boot device in your BIOS/CMOS. Can you please verify that it is the case?
[09:49] <Shaba1> Ok Slart I thought someone here would know a free alternative
[09:49] <JoseJX> _3fg: Ah, no linux then?  Sorry I didn't make that clear. :)  I need someone who is running Ubuntu on their PowerPC machine.
[09:49] <LSolaris> be sure to do sudo passwd in the livecd so you can set a root password on the livecd and run your chmod as superuser on the livecd
[09:49] <_3fg> oh I see
[09:49] <_3fg> I thought it was testing a version FOR PPC
[09:49] <Jowi> theking, ubuntu root is hda5 i guess?
[09:50] <JoseJX> _3fg: No, but thank you for offering :)
[09:50] <_3fg> :)
[09:50] <DesperateKubuntu> ok... so if i do sudo chmod.... withouth changing the password wont work?
[09:50] <scifi> Flannel: so mount ntfs -a-r doesnt work. how should i structure the syntax ?
[09:50] <gorski> how to return sound on ubuntu login?
 nop ubuntu is on hdb2
[09:51] <alvaro> jonah1980, ah i think you can see them in system ->adminitration -> networking/network tools
 hda5 its mandriva
[09:51] <imbecile> is there anything i can type to see if nm-applet is running or installed correctly
[09:51] <imbecile> is there anything i can type to see if nm-applet is running or installed correctly
[09:51] <imbecile> is there anything i can type to see if nm-applet is running or installed correctly
[09:51] <imbecile> oops
[09:51] <pike_> gorski: 'gksudo gdmsetup'
[09:51] <WhitesOwnYourAss> HAY GUYS
[09:51] <AmaroqWolf> LSolaris, my other players still don't work. lol.
[09:51] <peace-keeper> what file system i use for a partition i want writeable for both win and linux?
[09:51] <WhitesOwnYourAss> TOUCH MA WILLY
[09:51] <WhitesOwnYourAss> :3
[09:51] <peace-keeper> fat32?
[09:52] <Slart> Shaba1: gparted claims to be able to both shrink and grow ntfs-partitions.. but not move them... so I guess you could shrink the linux partition down to a gig or so and grow back the ntfs partition.
[09:52] <Jowi> theking, ok. mount hdb2 and paste the menu.lst for grub in the pastebin please
[09:52] <LSolaris> amaroqwolf i'm outa ideas
[09:52] <pike_> peace-keeper: yep
[09:52] <un4get> did anybody here can help me... im totally new
[09:52] <jpjacobs> !language|WhitesOwnTourAss
[09:52] <ubotu> WhitesOwnTourAss: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:52] <Slart> !ask | un4get
[09:52] <ubotu> un4get: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:52] <un4get> im using 2 hard disk. 1st windows xp 2nd ubuntu . im having problem to see my windows file
[09:52] <alvaro> jonah1980, it depends if you have a router, or if you have dynamics ip assignments
[09:52] <WhitesOwnYourAss> !language|jpjacobs
[09:52] <ubotu> jpjacobs: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:52] <un4get> problem tu mount
[09:52] <AmaroqWolf> Can I get those links again you pasted earlier to the multimedia pages, LSolaris?
[09:52] <imbecile> jpjacobs,  he should just get booted
[09:53] <un4get> i just complete installed ubuntu in half an hour ago.,
[09:53] <Slart> un4get: hmm.. having problems meaning... you dont see the hard drives at all? you see them but filenames are screwed up? you can't open office documents?
[09:53] <WhitesOwnYourAss> !language|erUSUL
[09:53] <ubotu> erUSUL: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:53] <un4get> i can see the hard disk in device manager.. but how t mount it ?
[09:53] <WhitesOwnYourAss> !language|Ballas
[09:53] <ubotu> Ballas: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:53] <WhitesOwnYourAss> !help
[09:53] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:54] <un4get> did ubuntu auto mount the windows file ?
[09:54] <Slart> un4get: it isn't mounted automatically? mine was..
[09:54] <imbecile> WhitesOwnYourAss, this is an african heritage channel get out
[09:54] <un4get> how to mount it automaticly ?
[09:54] <Slart> un4get: if you open "my computer", don't you see the drives on the left side?
[09:54] <imbecile> ya dummy
[09:54] <pike_> !ntfs| un4get
[09:54] <ubotu> un4get: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:54] <erUSUL> WhitesOwnYourAss: ????
[09:54] <gorski> how to change default display manager
[09:54] <gorski> ?
[09:54] <un4get> none
[09:54] <houman> hi there, i was wondering, can i generate a public/private key for ssh on the server? because all the howtos tell you to do it from a remote machine
[09:54] <Slart> un4get: they might be called hdb1, hdc, sdc etc...
[09:55] <theking> jowi http://pastebin.com/854582
[09:55] <WhitesOwnYourAss> erUSUL: It's ok, I forgive you
[09:55] <WhitesOwnYourAss> but please watch your mouth
[09:55] <Jowi> theking, ok
[09:55] <Slart> un4get: ok, check in the /media folder.. see anything there?
[09:55] <WhitesOwnYourAss> imbecile: thula
[09:55] <riotkittie> uhh
[09:55] <riotkittie> glee. we have a troll.
[09:55] <Arhane> hi
[09:55] <POVaddct> certainly.
[09:55] <un4get> just cdrom and floppy
[09:55] <WhitesOwnYourAss> I'm not a troll
[09:55] <WhitesOwnYourAss> I'm a fairy
[09:55] <martii> ok to use proxy at start you need to use mirror/http/proxy=ULR_TO_PROXY
[09:55] <WhitesOwnYourAss> I just don't look to awesome
[09:55] <imbecile> i hate white supremacists more than trolls :/
[09:55] <erUSUL> WhitesOwnYourAss: i have said nothing to you ijust have join the channel and this are my two firsts lines here. scroll up and check
[09:55] <WhitesOwnYourAss> but I don't call you guys trolls just because you're all ugly geeks who get off using ubuntu
[09:56] <Slart> un4get: hmm... that's odd.. what version of ubuntu? edgy (6.10) ?
[09:56] <un4get> yes 6.10
[09:56] <riotkittie> i dont think he's really a white supremacist
[09:56] <WhitesOwnYourAss> erUSUL: LIES, please don't lie to me, my bleeding heart can only take so much
[09:56] <riotkittie> i think he's a very poor troll
[09:56] <WhitesOwnYourAss> heh
[09:56] <WhitesOwnYourAss> yeah
[09:56] <WhitesOwnYourAss> black > white
 ive edited this way and now i need to write it in the hda mbr i dont manage (sorry for my english im french)
[09:56] <WhitesOwnYourAss> rofl
[09:56] <Jowi> theking, line 22/23 are pasted correctly or are they faulty?
[09:57] <tuv> i can't install bonfire on edgy. apt-get install bonfire -> bonfire: Depends: brasero (>= 0.4.4-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed.
[09:57] <erUSUL> WhitesOwnYourAss: wellcome to my ignore file ;)
[09:57] <Slart> un4get: hmm... well... I don't really know why it does that.. all my windows drives were mounted automatically after install..
[09:57] <AmaroqWolf> He's just jealous that he doesn't know how to use any linux distro.
[09:57] <p0rak> Hey hey, thought id ask in here.. for some reason my resolution goes only up to 1280x1024 in xorg in ubuntu, i know my card supports up to 1600x1280 tho, it's a radeon 9600 pro, is there any way to change to so i can reach 1600x1280?
[09:57] <WhitesOwnYourAss> erUSUL: the pleasure's mine :)
[09:57] <un4get> im using 2 hard disk
[09:57] <WhitesOwnYourAss> Amaroq: who?
[09:57] <WhitesOwnYourAss> rofl
[09:57] <AmaroqWolf> You, mr. white.
[09:57] <Jowi> theking, no problem. mon niveau de francais n'est pas bonne :)
[09:57] <un4get> hda windows hdb ubuntu
[09:57] <erUSUL> !fixres | p0rak
[09:57] <ubotu> p0rak: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:57] <WhitesOwnYourAss> well, if Ubuntu can be called linux, then no, I can't use it
[09:57] <riotkittie> wahhhh. i have to go play video games. woe is me.
[09:58] <Siro> hello everyone
[09:58] <DesperateKubuntu> i though of another thing, is there a way to let windows see the directory of linux
[09:58] <DesperateKubuntu> ?
[09:58] <WhitesOwnYourAss> I prefer something which provides more intellectual stimulation
[09:58] <WhitesOwnYourAss> say, MS DOS
[09:58] <Siro> i need some help
[09:58] <theking> <Jowi it s pasted correctly iv made i mistak editing the file
[09:58] <un4get> hmm
[09:58] <houman> hi there, i was wondering, can i generate a public/private key for ssh on the server? because all the howtos tell you to do it from a remote machine
[09:58] <theking> <Jowi 2 sec just the time to correct this
[09:58] <adaptr> WhitesOwnYourAss: intellectual stimulation ? you mean... like your name ?
[09:58] <_3fg> !find ati
[09:58] <Slart> !diskmounter | un4get
[09:58] <ubotu> Found: binutils-static, foomatic-db, foomatic-db-engine, foomatic-db-hpijs, foomatic-filters (and 127 others)
[09:58] <ubotu> un4get: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[09:58] <_3fg> !ati
[09:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:58] <Siro> after updating my sys folder was deleted in the root directory and I can't get back into ubuntu can someone help me?
[09:59] <AmaroqWolf> If you want more intellectual stimulation, you might want to try another distro like gentoo. But if you can't even use ubuntu, you can't use any distro at all.
[09:59] <un4get> error 404
[09:59] <WhitesOwnYourAss> adaptr: lol, I'll change it if you like
[09:59] <riotkittie> stop feeding the troll
[09:59] <un4get> the file not exist Slart
[09:59] <WhitesOwnYourAss> Amaroq: slackware is the only distro that I've enjoyed
[09:59] <Slart> un4get: eh.. I see it.. try reloading
[09:59] <WhitesOwnYourAss> ubuntu was a waste of free postage
[09:59] <WhitesOwnYourAss> =\
[09:59] <un4get> ok
[09:59] <riotkittie> slack is cool. though i dont have the head to use it again at this point
[09:59] <AmaroqWolf> I've never tried slackware.
[09:59] <adaptr> houman: if you;re talking about a *client* key pair, it doesn't matter where you do it, really
[09:59] <riotkittie> but it was my first disto :D
[09:59] <belkin> hi all
[09:59] <laz0r> erm, if i have a pid file in /var/run, how do i use it to kill a process?
[09:59] <brussel> in ksh i'd edit .profile and put in things like "alias ..", where do I do that with bash?
[10:00] <tuv> is bonfire installable on edgy?
[10:00] <houman> adaptr: i thoguth so, but its just not working, i keep gettin "Permission denied (publickey).", but anyways i am trying to search te ubuntu forum
[10:00] <Tonren> jmibanez: Yo dude.
[10:00] <belkin> how do i get write permission to a second ext3 file system type hdd ? /dev/hdf1   *           1       19456   156280288+  83  Linux its mounted on /media/hdd1
[10:00] <jmibanez> Tonren: yup
[10:00] <Slart> brussel: .bashrc
[10:00] <jmibanez> Tonren: compiled it?
[10:00] <brussel> thanks slart
[10:01] <Tonren> jmibanez: Now that ndiswrapper is working (and it is), nm-applet isn't even DETECTING eth0 and eth1.
[10:01] <adaptr> houman: when do you get that message, and what exactly are you trying to do ?
[10:01] <Tonren> jmibanez: Left-clicking brings up "No network devices have been found."
[10:01] <WhitesOwnYourAss> hmmm
[10:01] <jmibanez> ah... daemon.log?
[10:01] <_3fg> how do I install aiglx from the terminal?
[10:01] <theking> jowi ok it's done
[10:01] <WhitesOwnYourAss> !language erUSUL
[10:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about language erUSUL - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:01] <WhitesOwnYourAss> am I on your ignore dude?
[10:01] <_3fg> !aiglx
[10:01] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[10:01] <WhitesOwnYourAss> !language|erUSUL
[10:01] <ubotu> erUSUL: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:01] <laz0r> uh, its a socket, not a pid file... so how do i use a socket to kill a process?
[10:02] <Peggerrr> when using sudo does it matter what order you put the User_Alias  and Cmnd_Alias  ?????
[10:02] <houman> adaptr: i get that error when i ssh into my computer after i have set up the public/private key, im trying to get my ssh to work with keys rather than passwords
[10:02] <theking> jowi http://pastebin.com/854592
[10:02] <belkin> can anyone please help me having write permission to a second hard disk drive which is ext3 type ?
[10:02] <AmaroqWolf> Earlier, did somebody want to know how to install flash 9 on linux?
[10:02] <Tonren> jmibanez: Nothing.
[10:03] <jmibanez> hrm.
[10:03] <riotkittie> belkin: did you mount manually or was this automounted by fstab?
[10:03] <adaptr> houman: I understand that, but I need a little more information than that... do you understand exactly how pubkey auth works, did you add the public key to the authorized_keys file for the user account on the server ? did you set the right options in both the client's and the servers' ssh configuration files ?
[10:03] <jmibanez> Tonren: does ifup etc. work? with ndiswrapper i mean
[10:03] <Peggerrr> anyone know sudo that well
[10:03] <Tonren> jmibanez: Well, I don't normally use ifup/ifdown.  I manually dhclient, and it worked.
[10:03] <belkin> riotkittie i mount it manually
[10:03] <pike_> Peggerrr: ?
[10:03] <jmibanez> Tonren: hrm.
[10:04] <Peggerrr> pike_, when using sudo does it matter what order you put the User_Alias  and Cmnd_Alias  ?????
[10:04] <belkin> riotkittie i would also like to be auto mounted by fstab but how ? and also write permission to it
[10:04] <theking> jowi so now how do i write my mbr from the live cd with my new menu.lst
[10:04] <Tonren> jmibanez: This sux.
[10:04] <houman> adaptr: yes as far as i can tell, i mean i followed the guides, i did append the id_isa.pub >> authroizedkeys2 and chmod 600 authorized keys2
[10:04] <jmibanez> Tonren: could we back track a bit if that's ok with you? let's try bcm43xx again
[10:04] <houman> adaptr: its a weird error, not too many people are having it, i must have screwed up big time, haha
[10:04] <_emmanuel> hello
[10:04] <Tonren> jmibanez: *Groans*  Haha, okay, it's worth another shot
[10:04] <Siro> i f anyone can help me with sending me the contents of the sys folder please pm me
[10:04] <adaptr> houman: those were quite old guides, then
[10:05] <houman> adaptr: why do you say that
[10:05] <rpedro> !hi
[10:05] <Tony_> hmm my internett config does not work, and when i go to System -> Admin -> Network I get permission denied:S any suggestions?
[10:05] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:05] <juano> can i write to my ntfs HDD from ubuntu?
[10:05] <riotkittie> belkin: i'm not sure what the flags are to mount in manually in re-write mode but you should be able to find them easily by typing man mount
[10:05] <Slart> !ntfs
[10:05] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[10:05] <pike_> Peggerrr: i wouldnt think so
[10:05] <Jowi> theking, in the terminal you have open (and that has root access) type "grub" [enter]  then "root (hd1,1)" [enter]  and last "setup (hd0)" [enter] . that should do it. see if you get any errors
[10:05] <jvai> aight ppl
[10:05] <Slart> !ntfs-3d | juano
[10:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:05] <Peggerrr> pike_, I was afarid of that
[10:05] <Slart> !ntfs-3g | juano
[10:05] <ubotu> juano: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[10:05] <OHMYGODIMONFIRES> hello?
[10:06] <OHMYGODIMONFIRES> n e 1 help me>
[10:06] <adaptr> houman: the file is called id_dsa.pub, and the file you need to append it to is called .authorized_keys, in your own ~/.ssh directory
[10:06] <WhitesOwnYourAss> hey
[10:06] <juano> thanks Slart
[10:06] <WhitesOwnYourAss> I'll help you
[10:06] <Tonren> jmibanez: BRB.
[10:06] <WhitesOwnYourAss> :)
[10:06] <OHMYGODIMONFIRES> ty
[10:06] <jmibanez> Tonren: this time, with nm-applet disable NetworkManager (uncheck Enable Networking on the right-click context menu)
[10:06] <Slart> you're welcomg juano
[10:06] <OHMYGODIMONFIRES> umm
[10:06] <WhitesOwnYourAss> what's wrong?
[10:06] <Jowi> theking, then "quit" [enter]  to exit grub
[10:06] <Slart> OHMYGODIMONFIRES: just ask
[10:06] <OHMYGODIMONFIRES> its about the doomsday mod
[10:06] <Tonren> jmibanez: Yeah, that's what I've been doing
[10:06] <WhitesOwnYourAss> oh
[10:06] <jmibanez> Tonren: then shutdown the interface (sudo ifconfig eth1 down)
[10:06] <WhitesOwnYourAss> yeah
[10:06] <WhitesOwnYourAss> there's a bit of a problem with it
[10:06] <riotkittie> gah. this is the one time i regret not being in X
[10:06] <Tonren> jmibanez: Wait... you didn't mention that part before
[10:06] <jmibanez> Tonren: then turn NetworkManager back up
[10:07] <OHMYGODIMONFIRES> well i dunno how 2 get it 3d
[10:07] <riotkittie> brb
[10:07] <Tonren> jmibanez: hmmmm
[10:07] <jmibanez> Tonren: oh. ok.
[10:07] <OHMYGODIMONFIRES> its still crappy 3d
[10:07] <Tonren> jmibanez: So, Uncheck Enable, sudo ifconfig eth1 down, THEN re-enable networking.
[10:07] <jmibanez> Tonren: well, see if that works
[10:07] <Jowi> theking, let me knkow when you're done
[10:07] <Tonren> jmibanez: OK, BRB
[10:07] <jmibanez> Tonren: yep
[10:07] <riotkittie> brb
[10:07] <imbecile> is there anything i can type to see if nm-applet is running or installed correctly

[10:07] <WhitesOwnYourAss> OHMYGODIMONFIRE: are you on xchat or irssi or bitch? those will make it easier
 it writen my mbr successfuly
[10:08] <_3fg> If I disabled AIGLX and used another driver, how can I reenable AIGLX?
[10:08] <OHMYGODIMONFIRES> ????
[10:08] <OHMYGODIMONFIRES> eh?
[10:08] <Jowi> theking, very good. now reboot and check that hda is the first boot device on your system BIIOS
[10:08] <adaptr> OHMYGODIMALMOST13 :)
[10:08] <OHMYGODIMONFIRES> im only 15 lol
[10:08] <cntb> please join kubuntu torrent download http://cargol.net/~ramon/ubuntu-dvd-en
[10:08] <adaptr> well, you don;t sound like it
[10:08] <OHMYGODIMONFIRES> stfu noob
[10:09] <riotkittie> to add it to your fstab, try "sudo nano /etc/fstab"  to bring it up in an editor
[10:09] <somerville32> !stfu | OHMYGODIMONFIRES
[10:09] <ubotu> OHMYGODIMONFIRES: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[10:09] <adaptr> bye bye now
[10:09] <Shaezsche> is it possible to use the old boot method with edgy? from dapper? the new initrd, or wtahever its called takes 15s longer for my laptop
 ok i reboot then i come back on the channel to tell you how it went
[10:09] <Lunar_Lamp> Whenever I change desktop (on gnome, edgy) my KDE apps start flashing in the taskbar for attention (like when you have an IM).  This is really annoying, and a clear bug.  How can I stop this happening?
[10:09] <WhitesOwnYourAss> PriceChild
[10:09] <riotkittie> or use gedit instead if you prefer
[10:09] <OHMYGODIMONFIRES> oh ok soz
[10:09] <Jowi> ok theking i'll be here
[10:09] <riotkittie> what partition is the drive?
[10:09] <WhitesOwnYourAss> PriceChild, you called me out to #ubuntu-bots then you don't pitch
[10:09] <WhitesOwnYourAss> let's go
[10:09] <_Brandon_> hi, ive a problem, my hd partition table screwed up :P i runned gpart /dev/hda but it doesn't guess my ntfs partition
[10:09] <Shaezsche> what is the new boot method called anyway? initsomething
[10:09] <houman> adaptr: you got it, the file should have been authorizedkeys rather than authorizedkeys2 :D thanks so much
[10:10] <cafuego> Shaezsche: upstart
[10:10] <Tonren> jmibanez: Didn't work.
[10:10] <riotkittie> Shaezsche, upstart
[10:10] <adaptr> I know, I rule ;-)
[10:10] <Tonren> jmibanez: Jan  8 14:09:22 localhost dhclient: receive_packet failed on eth1: Network is down
[10:10] <Tonren> Jan  8 14:09:28 localhost NetworkManager: <information>^IWaking up from sleep.
[10:10] <jmibanez> Tonren: could you paste the latest daemon.log ?
[10:10] <Shaezsche> what was the boot method in dapper called
[10:10] <Tonren> jmibanez: Those are the two pertinent lines
[10:10] <cafuego> Shaezsche: init
[10:10] <jmibanez> Tonren: hrm...
[10:10] <Tonren> jmibanez: Immediately after reading that, I did sudo dhclient -1 eth1 and it worked.
[10:10] <cafuego> Shaezsche: (sysvinit)
[10:10] <Shaezsche> can i use init with edgy?
[10:10] <Shaezsche> upstart is way slower
[10:11] <OHMYGODIMONFIRES> umm
[10:11] <OHMYGODIMONFIRES> ........
[10:11] <cafuego> Shaezsche: Maybe, but if upstart is slower, something isn't right.
[10:11] <ompaul> !enter
[10:11] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:11] <OHMYGODIMONFIRES> im so sc**wd
[10:11] <Shaezsche> cafuego what could it be?
[10:11] <Shaezsche> upstart also takes 30s longer if im on my laptop's battery
[10:12] <riotkittie> Oetzi,  why are you so "sc**wd"?
[10:12] <jmibanez> Tonren: could you try not running dhclient for now? time how long it takes, and the result, from selecting the network in the nm-applet list, until NetworkManager gives up.
[10:12] <OHMYGODIMONFIRES> well no 1 iz helpin me
[10:12] <Tonren> jmibanez: No, remember - when I enable networking, eth1 and eth0 appear in the ifconfig list (as though the "up" command were run), but when I left click nm-applet, it says "No devices have been found".
[10:12] <Tonren> cafuego: Pardon me, but if you have a moment: Have you heard of your bcm43xx firmware screwing with NetworkManager?
[10:12] <riotkittie> OHMYGODIMONFIRES, helping you with what?
[10:12] <OHMYGODIMONFIRES> dooomsday mod
[10:13] <jmibanez> Tonren: cat /etc/network/interfaces --
[10:13] <Tonren> jmibanez: Also, I'm a little confused because when I disconnected and tried to switch from ndiswrapper to bcm43xx, I did rmmod ndiswrapper and it said the module didn't exist.  :\
[10:13] <riotkittie> eh. i know nothing about that mod .
[10:13] <kane77> is there any software for opening .dgn files?
[10:13] <Tonren> jmibanez: But neither did bcm43xx, which maeks me wonder: How the hell was I connecting?
[10:13] <OHMYGODIMONFIRES> crud.....ah well
[10:13] <Slart> OHMYGODIMONFIRES: this is a support channel for ubuntu... isn't there a special channel for doomsday?
[10:13] <riotkittie> what are .dgn files?
[10:14] <Tonren> jmibanez: It's the same as it was before.  I'll try it again with everything commented out.
[10:14] <imbecile> is there anything i can type to see if nm-applet is running or installed correctly
[10:14] <OHMYGODIMONFIRES> wazz ubuntu?
[10:14] <jmibanez> Tonren: everything except lo
[10:14] <AmaroqWolf> A linux distro.
[10:14] <kane77> riotkittie, they should be something like some cad files...
[10:14] <Tonren> imbecile: If nm-applet is running, you should see an icon of two computers in your systray
[10:14] <Tonren> jmibanez: Okey doke.  BRB.
[10:14] <giacomodeluca> italy
[10:14] <riotkittie> kane > ah. sorry, i do not know.
[10:14] <MarcC-Li> I never installed kernel 2.6.17-10 update - I'm afraid it will break NVidia - is there any reason not to think so?
[10:14] <OHMYGODIMONFIRES> in that case where do i get doomsday help?
[10:14] <AmaroqWolf> OHMYGODIMONFIRES, Ubuntu is a linux distrobution.
[10:15] <AmaroqWolf> type /list
[10:15] <mx-zoom> MarcC-Li: you have nvidia-glx installed?
[10:15] <Slart> OHMYGODIMONFIRES: this is one place, from google, http://www.doomsdayhq.com/
[10:15] <kane77> pike_,  how do you do that? (* pike_ tosses some chud to the trolls)
[10:15] <AmaroqWolf> You'll get to see all the channels.
[10:15] <MarcC-Li> mx-zoom: yes
[10:15] <imbecile> finally when someone answers me they leave :/
[10:15] <MarcC-Li> mx-zoom: via Envy
[10:15] <logivision> I'm looking at a window's configuration file for a program and am looking to make it compatible with linux. The two lines are "TcpIpServer=192.168.0.101" and "CurrentServer=DOUGDELL
[10:15] <logivision> MainServerName=DOUGDELL
[10:15] <logivision> MainSrvAdd=192.168.0.101
[10:15] <logivision> MainSrvVer=2005 SP3"
[10:15] <Music_Shuffle> kane77, type /me doesactionhere
[10:15] <pike_> MarcC-Li: you dont want to live in fear for the rest of your life. taka a chance
[10:15] <Slart> OHMYGODIMONFIRES: I think they have an irc-channel too..
[10:15] <Mastastealth> well, doesnt nm-applet need the network-manager-gnome package for systray icon...
[10:15] <pike_> kane77: /me whatever
[10:15] <mx-zoom> MarcC-Li: it is really easy to install the nvidia official driver
[10:15] <MarcC-Li> pike_: no freaking way, the last time it was a HUGE pita :D
[10:15] <logivision> What do I have to change in that config to make linux read it properly.. or do i?
[10:15] <Slart> OHMYGODIMONFIRES: #doomsday
[10:16] <kane77> Music_Shuffle, thanx... :D I've been wondering...
[10:16] <tuv> is bonfire installable on edgy?
[10:16] <mx-zoom> I can tell you how to
[10:16] <kane77> pike_, thanx
[10:16] <belkin> where is configuration editor ?
[10:16] <Shaezsche> when people talk about their boot times are they tlaking about the time it takes from the power on BUTTON until the desktop is loaded? or just the time spent at the ubuntu splash screeN??
[10:16] <Music_Shuffle> kane77, anytime. :D
[10:16] <logivision> I'm trying to run it with CrossOver but it can't find the file to update itself with, so I'm thinking it's possibly looking for the wrong address
[10:16] <MarcC-Li> mx-zoom: yes, but that version caused some sort of kernel version mismatch.
[10:16] <mx-zoom> MarcC-Li: you have to disable the nv module
[10:16] <Slart> oh, and you're welcome, OHMYGODIMONFIRES
[10:16] <MarcC-Li> mx-zoom: wha? whoa, never heard that before, how do I do it?
[10:17] <Jowi> imbecile, you need to logout and login again for nm-applet to work. so do that if you haven't already. when you log back in you should see a networking icon in the tray.
[10:17] <mx-zoom> MarcC-Li: I'll do a quick search. I'm using debian now and It is different
[10:17] <mx-zoom> w8 :P
[10:17] <tomvduh> hi, i have a file on my linux computer that I want to transfer to my windows xp computer, i have the file shared on the linux computer but dont know how to get it from the windows computer, what do i do o.O
[10:17] <MarcC-Li> mx-zoom: thanks
[10:17] <belkin> how do i start configuration editor ?
[10:17] <kane77> Music_Shuffle, any more stuff I can learn about irc?
[10:17] <Slart> tomvduh: how did you share it on the linux computer?
[10:18] <Music_Shuffle> kane77, loads.  I'm still working on it after a few months. >_<
[10:18] <logivision> Is there any way to "join a workgroup" that is full of window's machines, with Ubuntu ?
[10:18] <tomvduh> i right clicked and did share
[10:18] <tomvduh> slart: i right clicked and did share
[10:18] <pike_> tomvduh: im usually lazy and just apt-get install openssh-server  then download winscp on the windows box
[10:18] <Slart> tomvduh: sweet.. I didn't know you could do that =)
[10:18] <imbecile> Jowi,  thanks.. I hope i can get it working again
[10:18] <tomvduh> slart: do what?
[10:18] <Slart> tomvduh: try typing this on the windows computer then   //Nameofthelinuxcomputer
[10:18] <Jowi> theking, how did it go?
[10:19] <Slart> tomvduh: share stuff like that in ubuntu =)
[10:19] <theking> jowi bad news
[10:19] <tomvduh> oh lol
[10:19] <theking> grub error 22
[10:19] <mx-zoom> MarcC-Li: go to /etc/ and see if you've got a "restricted-modules" file
[10:19] <Jowi> theking, ok. wait
[10:19] <theking> style same problem
[10:19] <cherva> how can i read windows text documents without "recode"-ing them I didn't had that problem with SUSE and KWRITE
[10:19] <Shaezsche> when people talk about their boot times are they tlaking about the time it takes from the power on BUTTON until the desktop is loaded? or just the time spent at the ubuntu splash screeN??
[10:19] <kane77> Music_Shuffle, I'm going to check out the irc wikibook :D
[10:19] <tomvduh> slart: i typed that in the explorer window and it opened up internet explorer and tried taking me to http://downtairsdesktop
[10:19] <Tenris> hi, when I boot the liveDVD ( I burnt an ISO ), I press start and install, but I got this error "PCI: cannot allocate resource region 3 of device"
[10:19] <Slart> tomvduh: no http.. just //downstairsdesktop
[10:20] <Tenris> I've 3 of theses errors :(
[10:20] <MarcC-Li> mx-zoom: I do not appear to.
[10:20] <Slart> tomvduh: and not Internet Explorer.. just the regular explorer
[10:20] <subzero800> how would I add a wine program to Kiba bar?
[10:20] <belkin> how do i start configuration editor ?
 try the alternate CD i have the same problem
[10:20] <DigitalNinja> I've got a licensing question. Can one sell an Ubuntu workstation with multimedia support? (libdvdcss, w32codecs etc...)
[10:20] <logivision> Is there any way to join a window's "work group"
[10:20] <logivision> ?
[10:20] <mx-zoom> MarcC-Li: do sudo gedit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[10:20] <cherva> my live sc doesn't boot at all but with the alternate cd worked pefectly (OEM install)
[10:21] <Tenris> cherva> Oh ? so I'm going to try alternate and not desktop
[10:21] <pike_> DigitalNinja: you can probably get away with it. but if youre going to do that the fees per box are not that big
[10:21] <mx-zoom> MarcC-Li: under diable modules, you disable nvidia
[10:21] <cherva> thry the desktop alternate cd
[10:21] <Slart> DigitalNinja: Ianal, but I think you can.. you can't keep people from making copies and giving your product away in second hand though
[10:21] <DigitalNinja> pike_: What fees?
[10:21] <cntb> please join kubuntu torrent download http://cargol.net/~ramon/ubuntu-dvd-en
[10:21] <mx-zoom> MarcC-Li: sorry sorry,write nv and now nvidia
[10:21] <pike_> DigitalNinja: license fee
[10:21] <MarcC-Li> mx-zoom: so it should say DISABLED_MODULES="nv" ?
[10:21] <Wikipedia-Gast47> 
[10:21] <cntb> logivision: ?
[10:21] <DigitalNinja> Slart: I don't mined that part.
[10:22] <Wikipedia-Gast47> why
[10:22] <mx-zoom> MarcC-Li: that'll disable the nvidia module from the restricted modules file and there'll be no version missmatch
[10:22] <Tony_> i can't do any system configuration, it says i'm not allowed:s help?
[10:22] <mx-zoom> MarcC-Li: precisely
[10:22] <Wikipedia-Gast47> why
[10:22] <cntb> !samba | logivision
[10:22] <ubotu> logivision: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:22] <MarcC-Li> mx-zoom: thanks! I'll try it.
[10:22] <Wikipedia-Gast47> ubotu sucks
[10:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sucks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:22] <Jowi> theking, error 22 is "no such partition" I suspect that the order of the disks are not what you think they are. for example sda1 might be hd0, hda is hd1 and hdb is hd2. what type of disk is sda and how is it connected?
[10:22] <DigitalNinja> pike_: How and where do I get them? (w32codecs, libdvdcss, mp3 etc...)
[10:22] <Tenris> cherva> I took ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso, now I take ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso, i'll see :-)
[10:22] <cntb> !language | Wikipedia-Gast47
[10:23] <ubotu> Wikipedia-Gast47: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:23] <Slart> DigitalNinja: but you should check something like this with some proper, educated people.. perhaps mailing some kind of open source organisation
[10:23] <logivision> cntb: it's not to just view it. i need linux to actually belive it's IN the work group. If not, what's the format to point to a computer name that's in a window's work group ?
[10:23] <mx-zoom> MarcC-Li: don't forget you must unnistall the nvida glx package too
[10:23] <theking> jowi
[10:23] <DigitalNinja> Slart: I'll give that a try.
[10:23] <tuv> doesn't anyone use bonfire around here?
[10:23] <phr34ck> how can I assign F keys from the terminal ?
[10:23] <theking> so sda is on sat
[10:23] <theking> sata
[10:23] <laurelin> why
[10:24] <mx-zoom> MarcC-Li: and you also need "apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` build-essential gcc gcc-3.4 xserver-xorg-dev" so that nvidia works properly
[10:24] <xorg62> hi
[10:24] <Music_Shuffle> Why what?
[10:24] <logivision> currently the window's ile that is an .INI says "CurrentServer=SEVERNAME" but the computer was previously in the work group already
[10:24] <pike_> DigitalNinja: not really sure example: http://www.mp3licensing.com/royalty/software.html
[10:24] <cntb> logivision:  wait a sec
[10:24] <smev81> hi, everyone. Who knows a simple way to enable sound coming out of other channels (rear, side speaker, etc)?
[10:24] <cherva> how can i read windows text documents without "recode"-ing them I didn't had that problem with SUSE and KWRITE
[10:24] <theking> jowi the 80 gb is ide primary and wd20gb is on ide slave
[10:24] <DigitalNinja> pike_: Thanks! It's a start.
[10:24] <Slart> phr34ck: edit menu, keyboard shortcuts
[10:24] <MarcC-Li> mx-zoom: ok...heh, I'll try all that :)
[10:24] <laurelin> Music_Shuffle: why is life a cookie?
[10:24] <Naik0> !ati
[10:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:24] <lnm> what am I doing wrong when "sudo /usr/sbin/sshd reload" gives me the anwser "extra argument reload" ?
[10:24] <phr34ck> Slart, I write that in the terminal ?
[10:24] <Jowi> theking, oops. error 22 is "must load multiboot kernal before modules" maybe it's the installed kernel that is bad...?
[10:25] <laurelin> poor pengy
[10:25] <xorg62> why when i put the section "extension" in the xorg (for the rendering YES" with fglrx in dual scren my pc bug when the X start
[10:25] <mx-zoom> MarcC-Li: hehe np. I just remember the time I lost figuring it all out
[10:25] <Music_Shuffle> laurelin, there, you got a cookie.  Better now?
[10:25] <mx-zoom> MarcC-Li: gl xD
[10:25] <laurelin> thanks
[10:25] <Slart> phr34ck: no.. you click on the Edit menu, then keyboard shortcuts.. but that might not be what you want
[10:25] <laurelin> I love chocolate cake
[10:25] <Slart> phr34ck: in the terminal window
[10:26] <xorg62> no?
[10:26] <laurelin> poor Slart
[10:26] <Scand> hey, any new PLF repository for dapper ?
[10:26] <pike_> DigitalNinja: might be better off putting a script on desktop that they click on to 'install nonfree codecs' or something
[10:26] <laurelin> poor pike
[10:26] <Slart> laurelin: eh?
[10:26] <cntb> logivision: carefully use this http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/11/20/207251
[10:26] <laurelin> what?
[10:26] <phr34ck> The best way to install ATI is the following: supt apt-get install xorg-driver-flgrx flgrx-control .Once done, write this: aticonfig --initial
[10:26] <Jowi> theking, the error makes no sence to me. either the kernel is faulty or not found perhaps. damn.
[10:26] <DigitalNinja> pike_: I was thinking about that.
[10:26] <phr34ck> and then reboot your system
[10:26] <cntb> and you will be happy logivision
[10:26] <pike_> laurelin: ?
[10:26] <phr34ck> Slart, yeah, I want a way to do it from the terminal.
[10:26] <DigitalNinja> pike_: Would one be coverd by something like that?
[10:27] <xorg62> thank you goodbye and goodnight every ubunteros
[10:27] <Gosha> eh
[10:27] <phr34ck> sudo*
[10:27] <theking> jowy i dont think so 2 sec i check my menu.lst and the name of the vmlinuz and initrd and see if match with the path
[10:27] <Gosha_> .. wtf
[10:27] <Gosha> >_>
[10:27] <Gosha> <_<
[10:27] <logivision> cntb: thanks. but the first line states "that allows Windows users to connect to a Linux server"
[10:27] <Slart> phr34ck: hmm... then I'm out of ideas.... you want someting like "bind" in quake etc
[10:27] <smev81> hello @ all
[10:27] <logivision> cntb: I want a Linux computer to connect to a WINDOWS server... so it's backwards ?
[10:27] <phr34ck> Slart,  yeah :). I don't know if that is possible though.
[10:28] <cntb> the opposite is easier
[10:28] <phr34ck> For example, I want F2 to launch Opera browser. How do I do that?
[10:28] <jpjacobs> logivision, rdesktop?
[10:28] <cntb> logivision:  pls read it
[10:28] <Slart> phr34ck: that sounds like a gnome thing... or you want it to work in the terminal only?
[10:28] <logivision> cntb: thanks
[10:28] <logivision> jpjacobs: what's rdsektop?
[10:28] <smev81> who knows how to configure a (onboard standart) soundcard to output to more than one speaker?
[10:28] <juano> Slart: thanks, at last im able to set write permissions to ntfs partition
[10:28] <cntb> it has the workgroup line you need logivision
[10:28] <Jowi> theking, let's try this. in a terminal "sudo -i" then "grub" then "root (hd2,1)" then "setup (hd0)" then "quit" and reboot
[10:28] <hojgaard> Hey... I installed 6.10 on my 6.06 partition and now my other partitions are gone... What can i do??
[10:28] <lnm> Can someone tell me what am I doing wrong when "sudo /usr/sbin/sshd reload" gives me the anwser "extra argument reload" ?
[10:29] <Slart> phr34ck: if you want global shortcuts, try system, preferences, keyboard shortcuts
[10:29] <logivision> cntb: the samba set up does? or rdesktop?
[10:29] <phr34ck> Slart, that's the GUI way.
[10:29] <laurelin> poor Slart
[10:29] <Jowi> theking, I suspect sda is hd0 since it is listed first in fdisk -l (even though fdisk say it is not listed in order)
[10:29] <phr34ck> I'm seeking the CLI way.
[10:29] <Slart> juano: you're welcome.. it works alright? I've never tried it myself
[10:29] <Slart> phr34ck: yes =)
[10:29] <laurelin> poor Slart
[10:29] <phr34ck> there is no CLI way for it?
[10:29] <Jowi> theking, so hdb should be hd2 and hdb2 hd2,1
[10:29] <adaptr> !xbindkeys | phr34ck
[10:29] <cntb> rdesktop is like terminal services
[10:29] <ubotu> xbindkeys: Associate a combination of keys or mouse buttons with a shell command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.1-1.1 (edgy), package size 26 kB, installed size 148 kB
[10:30] <phr34ck> adaptr, you're a savior or something ;p
[10:30] <cntb> logivision:  you needed sharing right ?
[10:30] <juano> Slart: yeah installed ntfs-3g from universe and modified fstab from ntfs to ntfs-3g, same with mtab and remounted
[10:30] <laurelin> poor juano
[10:30] <adaptr> I know, and I just turned 36, too ! :P
[10:30] <whileimhere> Other than Sound Juicer is there a 'GOOD' alternative to rip my CDs to OGG? I think that Sound Juicer is just so slow.
[10:30] <laurelin> poor whileimhere
[10:30] <jpjacobs> logivision, windows servers have a rdp server, so users can remotely connect. rdesktop is a consoleclient for rdp, grdesktop a gui client.
[10:30] <belkin> hello ?
[10:30] <Slart> juano: sweet.. I might have to do that to my last ntfs-drive some day...
[10:30] <laurelin> poor jpjacobs
[10:30] <belkin> anyone online ?
[10:30] <belkin> :)))
[10:30] <laurelin> poor belkin
[10:31] <belkin> hell yeah
[10:31] <Jowi> theking, don't forget to mount hdb2 and edit your menu.lst to reflect this change in root
[10:31] <Wimpog> GUYS, has anybody tried to install TTCP tool on Ubuntu?
[10:31] <logivision> cntb: i need my linux machine to either 1) be INSIDE the window's work group so i can point to the name of a computer or 2) i need to know the format to point to a window's server by name and ip if it's not inside the work group
[10:31] <belkin> i wish i can get a bit of fstab mounting stuff help :)
[10:31] <Slart> phr34ck: there exists some shortcuts.. there must be a way to edit them... http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10877_11-5560550.html
[10:31] <phr34ck> Slart, thanks.
[10:31] <laurelin> poor phr34ck
[10:31] <logivision> i'm copying some window's files directly to linux and running them with crossover. the program has some .ini's though that I think i'll need to change. right now in the INI's it says
[10:32] <phr34ck> laurelin, I'm not poor .. I have UBUNTU !!
[10:32] <laurelin> poor logivision
[10:32] <cntb> logivision in konqueror address line syntax is
[10:32] <logivision> CurrentServer=SERVERNAME
[10:32] <obstfliege> gn8
[10:32] <logivision> MainServerName=SERVERNAME
[10:32] <logivision> MainSrvAdd=192.168.0.101
[10:32] <tomvduh> is it possible to map a network drive on windows?
[10:32] <cntb> smb://computername/share
[10:32] <Slart> phr34ck: hey.. there is a bind command... bind -p lists current shortcuts
[10:32] <belkin> tomvduh yeah samba
[10:32] <cntb> logivision:
[10:32] <laurelin> poor cntb
[10:32] <Wimpog> Who Knows how to intalls TTCP (test tcp) tool in ubuntu????
[10:32] <laurelin> poor Wimpog
[10:32] <phr34ck> awesome.
[10:33] <logivision> cntb: so if i use that format and put it in a config file .. ?
[10:33] <phr34ck> that's what I was looking for, I guess.
[10:33] <Wimpog> laurelin: Why?
[10:33] <cntb> laurelin: will you stop trolling now ?
[10:33] <laurelin> because life is a cookie
[10:33] <tomvduh> belkin: h0w?
[10:33] <laurelin> I don't troll
[10:33] <cntb> ask me  !
[10:33] <laurelin> ok
[10:33] <Slart> pengy.. dont feed it.. kill it.. kill it with fire.. ;)
[10:34] <laurelin> how are you, cntb?
[10:34] <Tonren> jmibanez: No dice.  I've tried every trick I have up my sleeve.  It just hangs.
[10:34] <belkin> tomvduh " Places > Network Servers "
[10:34] <jmibanez> Tonren: could you pastebin the daemon.log again? pretty please? :)
[10:34] <cntb> http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/11/20/207251 logivision why not read it ?
[10:34] <laurelin> poor Tonren
[10:34] <Tonren> jmibanez: Step ahead of you. http://rafb.net/p/QWRCda56.html
[10:34] <Tonren> laurelin: Computers hate me!  :D
[10:34] <belkin> tomvduh just make sure you already share the folder or whatever you wanna share on your windows machine
[10:34] <laurelin> do they
[10:34] <FatherTyme> http://www.xkcd.com/c176.html
[10:35] <Tonren> laurelin: Yep.
[10:35] <FatherTyme> I about died reading this one.
[10:35] <laurelin> I hate computers too
[10:35] <laurelin> Poor FatherTyme
[10:35] <cntb> !troll
[10:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <logivision> cntb: if that's the same article you posted before i already read through it
[10:35] <xtknight> when i compile 2.6.20-rc4 should i be patching 2.6.19 or 2.6.19.1?   does 2.6.20-rc4 include 2.6.19.1 updates?
[10:35] <laurelin> why do you say that, cntb?
[10:35] <Red-Sox> I need to install windows on top of Ubuntu for one application
[10:35] <laurelin> I'm sad
[10:35] <Red-Sox> So what do I need?
[10:36] <cntb> good logivision implement it and be happy
[10:36] <juano> Red-Sox: wich application?
[10:36] <Red-Sox> juano: iTunes
[10:36] <laurelin> cntb: why
[10:36] <pike_> Red-Sox: id download vmware server
[10:36] <Slart> Red-Sox: try qemu.. it works if it's not a game you're after
[10:36] <logivision> cntb: it's not doing what i want to do though. I won't want to have a linux server that window's PC's can connect to
[10:36] <laurelin> why
[10:36] <juano> Red-Sox: crossover office does it, except theres no ipod support
[10:36] <laurelin> why
[10:36] <tomvduh> belkin: how can i get my linux hardrive to show up on my windows computer?
[10:36] <cntb> dont forget to sudo cp /etc/samba/smb.conf smb.conf~bkp logivision
[10:36] <laurelin> why
[10:36] <Tonren> tomvduh: Do a google search for "ext2fs"
[10:36] <laurelin> why
[10:36] <Red-Sox> Slart, juano I need it for iPod and the music store + I need to use it for videos
[10:37] <laurelin> why
[10:37] <juano> Red-Sox: try amarok or gtkpod
[10:37] <laurelin> why
[10:37] <Red-Sox> juano: No music store
[10:37] <laurelin> why
[10:37] <Red-Sox> wtf laurelin
[10:37] <logivision> cntb: i want a linux machine to be able to point to a window's machine by it's name. either by being inside the network or by knowing the correct format to point to a computer that's inside a work group
[10:37] <juano> Red-Sox: they sync ipods
[10:37] <laurelin> why
[10:37] <Red-Sox> SHUT UP laurelin
[10:37] <belkin> tomvduh share the directory from your linux partition
[10:37] <theking> jowi hd2,1 no such partition
[10:37] <xkcd> FatherTyme: your mom
[10:37] <laurelin> why
[10:37] <Red-Sox> juano: I know but know music store
[10:37] <PriceChild> !ops
[10:37] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[10:37] <logivision> cntb: if i'm outside of the network and tell the program to connect to **SERVER** it's not going to find it becuase i'm not in the work group
[10:37] <Slart> Red-Sox: well.. vmware, qemu, perhaps wine should work
[10:37] <PriceChild> laurelin,
[10:37] <laurelin> why
[10:37] <Red-Sox> yeah PriceChild good call
[10:38] <laurelin> why
[10:38] <ompaul> PriceChild, ?
[10:38] <juano> Red-Sox: ive read that only some ipods sync with itunes through wine / crossover office
[10:38] <Red-Sox> sladen: wine doesn't work
[10:38] <PriceChild> laurelin,
[10:38] <PriceChild> ompaul, ^
[10:38] <Red-Sox> ompaul: laurelin
[10:38] <belkin> tomvduh install samba and add a dir to share from linux to windows ...
[10:38] <logivision> cntb: all i need to do is tell a program where to find a Window's computer by it's name
[10:38] <tomvduh> okay
[10:38] <Tonren> jmibanez: Any ideas?
[10:38] <ompaul> beaten to it
[10:38] <peace-keeper> !vmware
[10:38] <ubotu> vmware is VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[10:38] <tomvduh> sudo apt-get install samba < belkin?
[10:38] <juano> Red-Sox: ive tried with a motorola rokr E1 and no luck
[10:38] <jmibanez> Tonren: do you have dhcbd?
[10:38] <Tonren> jmibanez: What's that?
[10:38] <xtknight> btw, 2.6.20-rc4 should be patched to 2.6.19 (not 2.6.19.1) in case anyone wondered.
[10:38] <belkin> tomvduh yep
[10:38] <juano> Red-Sox: but thats a whole different story
[10:38] <jmibanez> Tonren: what version of NetworkManager do you have?
[10:38] <Red-Sox> yah
[10:39] <Red-Sox> okay so I'll try qemu
[10:39] <imbecile> Jowi,  I was wondering what you meant by reconnect?
[10:39] <Tonren> jmibanez: The applet is 0.6.3
[10:39] <Tonren> jmibanez: How do I get NetworkManager's version?
[10:39] <theking> jowi i root (hd1,1) the setup hd0 and hd1
[10:39] <Red-Sox> pike_: how much is vmware
[10:39] <jmibanez> Tonren: how did you install NetworkManager?
[10:39] <theking> i try
[10:39] <Tonren> jmibanez: Uh, doesn't it come installed?
[10:40] <theking> and i com back
[10:40] <Rageagainstthis> Has anyone used dream linux?
[10:40] <tomvduh> belkin: I installed that, shared the file, and have the two computers plugged in via ethernet, and I can't get the files to show up nn either of the comps =|
[10:40] <jmibanez> Tonren: yeah... but you might have installed it via source for all i know :)
[10:40] <Tonren> jmibanez: Oh.  Yeah, it's the presintalled vers.
[10:40] <jmibanez> dhcdbd
[10:40] <fleischwurst> spam
[10:40] <Tonren> jmibanez: what about it
[10:40] <jmibanez> Tonren: do a ps ax | grep dhcbd
[10:41] <hjmills> can i use ekiga to talk to people on skype?
[10:41] <Tonren> jmibanez: The usual Zen output: The only line grep dhcbd found was itself.
[10:41] <jmibanez> argh.
[10:41] <jmibanez> that is the *LAST* time i do ^R to search backwards.
[10:42] <Tonren> hehe
[10:42] <jmibanez> either that or i remap ^R in xchat-gnome
[10:42] <jmibanez> Tonren: you should have it running i guess
[10:42] <Tonren> jmibanez: I should have dhcbd running?
[10:42] <sladen> Red-Sox: what about wine doesn't work?
[10:42] <imbecile> is there a problem with nm-applet in ubuntu?
[10:42] <tomvduh> is it possible to zip up a file, then zip that file again?
[10:42] <hojgaard> Hey there. Can someone help me please. I installed 6.10 on my 6.06 partition and now my other partitions are gone... What can i do??
[10:42] <mpGoodwin> Question regarding dhcpd /dhclient: When receiving a hostname from server, client will only set hostname if it is emtpy or (none), but /etc/init.d/hostname.sh sets it to at least "localhost"
[10:42] <Tonren> jmibanez: wait wait wait
[10:43] <jmibanez> Tonren: i believe so... i have it running on mine, and this post -> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/networkmanager-list/2006-December/msg00017.html  <- has a mention of it as a diagnostic inquiry
[10:43] <belkin> tomvduh have a quick look in /etc/samba/smb.conf   and read at the end of that file how to add directory
[10:43] <Tonren> jmibanez: I HAVE a process called dhcdbd running.  NOT dhcdb.
[10:43] <jmibanez> Tonren: oh. ok.
[10:43] <Tonren> jmibanez: Freaking linux developers.  What the crap.  Give something a longer name for once
[10:43] <Red-Sox> sladen: quicktime
[10:43] <imbecile> is there a problem with nm-applet in dapper?
[10:43] <tomvduh> k thx belkin. i think im just gonna zip up the file, burn it to cd, then move it to this computer.
[10:43] <Tonren> jmibanez: dhcdbd looks like what my cat types wheni t walks on the keyboard
[10:44] <belkin> :)
[10:44] <un4get> :)
[10:44] <jmibanez> Tonren: dhcdbd --> dhclient DBUS-aware daemon
[10:44] <rrittenhouse> How can I have ubuntu start up in command line ? (change runlevel?)
[10:44] <Tonren> jmibanez: Yeah yeah yeah.  and lsof stands for "List Open Files" and fsck means "file system check" but that doesn't mean they don't look like gibberish
[10:44] <jmibanez> Tonren: i have to agree there.. :)
[10:45] <imbecile> is there a problem with nm-applet in dapper?
[10:45] <jmibanez> Tonren: back to the annoyance at hand :)
[10:45] <Tonren> jmibanez: Anyway, NetworkManager still isn't working.  :(
[10:45] <mnoir> Tonren: your point?   this is unix.  commands are supposed to look like gibberish
[10:45] <Tonren> mnoir: Touche.
[10:45] <Tonren> mnoir: Or should I say tche
[10:45] <un4get> help mp3 cannot play
[10:45] <un4get> !help codec
[10:45] <mnoir> :)
[10:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:45] <Tonren> mnoir: If that doesn't make sense, well, "man tche" and hope for the best, n00b.  XD
[10:45] <jmibanez> Tonren: what's the contents of /etc/dbus-1/event.d again? it scrolled off in my buffer
[10:46] <rrittenhouse> !help runlevel
[10:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help runlevel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:46] <Slart> !codecs
[10:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:46] <cntb> !restricted | un4get
[10:46] <ubotu> un4get: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:46] <imbecile> is there a problem with nm-applet in dapper?
[10:46] <un4get> thank cntb
[10:46] <Bruninha> heloo
[10:46] <guus_dk> I had a problem using the ACX driver for my US Robotics (USR5410) wifi card. Downloading a new driver and using that worked for me (followed instructions at acx100.sourceforge.net). Should I report this anywhere? Is anyone experiencing similar problems?
[10:46] <Lu> hello
[10:46] <ubuntu_> hello
[10:46] <Bruninha> brazil
[10:46] <LjL> !br
[10:46] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[10:47] <cntb> hello Bruninha
[10:47] <guus_dk> oh, I used feisty, that might be of importance.
[10:47] <Tonren> jmibanez: 20hal     25avahi-daemon    26NetworkManagerDispatcher
[10:47] <Tonren> 22dhcdbd  25NetworkManager  70system-tools-backends
[10:47] <jmibanez> Tonren: btw, when you kill dhclient, are you sure it's the only dhclient there?
[10:47] <Tonren> jmibanez: ... yes?
[10:47] <ubuntu_> hi from Italy. how can i install UBUNTU into my PC in anhoter parition?
[10:47] <Red-Sox> qemu didn't work slart
[10:47] <mnoir> guus_dk: yes - it does - go to #ubuntu+1
[10:48] <Tonren> jmibanez: ps aux shows only one
[10:48] <Slart> Red-Sox: oh? what went wrong?
[10:48] <jmibanez> Tonren: in http://rafb.net/p/QWRCda56.html, line 213 doesn't make sense
[10:48] <Tonren> jmibanez: That's what the -1 switch does on dhclient.
[10:48] <cntb> !it
[10:48] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:48] <LjL> ubuntu_: the installer will take care of that, it will ask you where you want to install it
[10:48] <guus_dk> ok mnoir
[10:48] <jmartini> I'm having issues changing the default sound card in System>Preferences>Sound from my SB card to my USB headset. They both show up in the combo box but changes are not saved. Any ideas?
[10:48] <Red-Sox> Slart: the same thing as Wine, Quicktime
[10:48] <Slart> Red-Sox: ah.. quicktime is a mess...
[10:48] <Tonren> jmibanez: Yeah, I don't know what the hell the deal with that is.
[10:48] <cntb> also ubuntu_  /nick
[10:48] <Slart> Red-Sox: vlc player doesn't handle quicktime?
[10:48] <Sling> hello all!
[10:48] <mnoir> guus_dk: sorry - i meant it makes a difference that you are running feisty, not that i know the answer :)
[10:48] <Tonren> jmibanez: I think it's because it deactivates eth1 on the line before, thus removing the module
[10:48] <Red-Sox> Slart: Yeah...but iTunes looks for its version
[10:49] <ompaul> !codecs | Slart
[10:49] <ubotu> Slart: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:49] <Sling> can anyone help me with a wireless issue in ubuntu edgy
[10:49] <guus_dk> mnoir: n/m, I'll post it there :)
[10:49] <meheren> Can you change the size of hpfs/ntfs partitions with the 6.06 install/live cd?
[10:49] <Red-Sox> Slart: and if it's not installed then it doesn't work
[10:49] <Naik0> can someone give me a guide so i can install my ATI Radeon 9800
[10:49] <mnoir> guus_dk: :)
[10:49] <Flannel> !ati | Naik0
[10:49] <ubotu> Naik0: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:49] <jmibanez> Tonren: AFAICT (and from my experience, YMMV obviously of course), networkmanager *doesn't* unload the module
[10:49] <Tonren> jmibanez: Well, it has been.
[10:49] <Slart> Red-Sox: how nasty of them.. well.. then vmware might be your best shot.. or dual boot
[10:49] <jmibanez> Tonren: sure, it puts the interface down, but it doesn't unload it
[10:49] <jmibanez> Tonren: the module i mean
[10:50] <Sling> can anyone help me with a wireless issue in ubuntu edgy, i did the one tutorial on the forums but it seems to not work, i do seem quite close
[10:50] <Tonren> jmibanez: Hmm...
[10:50] <Tonren> jmibanez: Well, I dunno, man.  I think this whole situation is just bizarre.
[10:50] <belkin> chown -R user:user ...
[10:50] <jmibanez> Tonren: however, there *shouldn't* be a dhclient, because NetworkManager starts that in stage 3
[10:50] <Red-Sox> Slart: Is vmware expensive?
[10:50] <jmibanez> Tonren: yeah, i agree it's bizarre.
[10:50] <Tonren> jmibanez: I don't believe there was a dhclient.
[10:50] <imbecile> WHY ISNT NM-APPLET WORKING FOR ME?
[10:50] <jmibanez> imbecile: BECAUSE YOU'RE SHOUTING.
[10:50] <imbecile> :/
[10:50] <Slart> Red-Sox: I don't know.. you'll have to ask the ones selling it =)
[10:50] <LjL> !caps | imbecile
[10:50] <ubotu> imbecile: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[10:51] <pike_> Red-Sox: vmware server is free as is player server is much better than player though
[10:51] <lunaphyte_> did ubuntu go back to using lilo with edgy?
[10:51] <jmibanez> Tonren: yeah, but the log clearly shows dhclient being run
[10:51] <imbecile> yeah i know but thats the only way to get people to answer me
[10:51] <jmartini> I'm having issues changing the default sound card in System>Preferences>Sound from my SB card to my USB headset. They both show up in the combo box but changes are not saved. Any ideas?
[10:51] <DeathFox> hey my video is very wavy its hard for me to search websites and scroll does that mean i need a video driver?
[10:51] <hjmills> !qt
[10:51] <Slart> imbecile: if we knew why it didn't work we would have told you when you first asked
[10:51] <ubotu> Qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications
[10:51] <Red-Sox> pike_: Hm
[10:51] <theflyingfool> does anyone know how to get the volume up and down buttons on my keyboard to actually work
[10:51] <jmartini> lunaphyte_:  nope, still grub
[10:51] <Tonren> jmibanez: That's me doing it AFTER NetworkManager gives up.
[10:51] <Flannel> lunaphyte_: not that I'm aware of.  You can install either though with the alternate CD
[10:51] <jmibanez> Tonren: ah.
[10:51] <imbecile> ive asked over 20 times :/ and rebooted over 30 trying to get it configured
[10:51] <theflyingfool> they bring up a volume thing, but they dont affect anything
[10:52] <Tonren> jmibanez: Wait a minute... maybe it's not...?  It's the same second as the last NM command before it
[10:52] <Tonren> jmibanez: I'm gonna try again, BRB
[10:52] <jmibanez> Tonren: my point...
[10:52] <Sling> can anyone help me with my wireless?  i have a Presario V2000,  the wireless light just blinks over and over, i did the turtorial on ubuntu forums tho, so it hink i got the driver and all installed
[10:52] <jmibanez> just missed him
[10:52] <Jowi> imbecile, sorry. had to leave. got a obnoxious baby here that hates his bed. I meant, log-out of gnome then log back in again. that should be it.
[10:52] <alink1000> mkay, still having that archiving problem with 7zip format...
[10:52] <meheren> Can you change the size of hpfs/ntfs partitions with the 6.06 install/live cd? Im trying to install ubuntu on a friends computer but it keeps failing when i resize their 80 gig partition for windows.
[10:52] <alink1000> would like to play super mario world hacks. :)
[10:52] <lunaphyte_> jmartini, Flannel: i'm installing a server with the alternate cd (no window manager) - it's insisting that it install lilo.  ican'
[10:52] <imbecile> Jowi,  you mean reboot?
[10:52] <Jowi> imbecile, no.
[10:52] <lunaphyte_> i don't see an option for grub.
[10:52] <alink1000> If someone can guid me through it, that would be just great. :)
[10:53] <Slart> meheren: why not try 6.10, I've heard that it can resize partitions
[10:53] <imbecile> Jowi,  how do i log out of gnome?
[10:53] <pike_> alink1000: be a man and install tremulous ;p
[10:53] <Flannel> lunaphyte_: hit "go back" or whatever, get back to list of steps, there's a grub option
[10:53] <jmartini> lunaphyte_: sorry thought you were talking about the workstation install. Can't speak to the server install.
[10:53] <alink1000> what's tremulous?
[10:53] <alink1000> does it come with the add/remove applications?
[10:53] <Jowi> imbecile, should be a "quit" button there somewhere.
[10:53] <Slart> aliens vs humans fps team game
[10:53] <meheren> Slart, heh simple because ive lost my 6.10 cd's... and 6.06 is just as good isn't it...
[10:53] <pike_> alink1000: online fps
[10:53] <alink1000> oh...
[10:53] <alink1000> that's...
[10:53] <rrittenhouse> I'm using ubuntu edgy - how can I change it to not start X upon startup (server setup)
[10:53] <LjL> !tremulous | alink1000
[10:53] <ubotu> tremulous: Aliens vs Humans, team based FPS game with elements of an RTS. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.0-2 (edgy), package size 1153 kB, installed size 2740 kB
[10:53] <bouncing> Has anyone noticed that the DOM Inspector went away from Ubuntu's package list?
[10:54] <alink1000> completely irrelavent to what I aws asking...
[10:54] <alink1000> *was
[10:54] <Slart> meheren: hehe.. well, I've heard it's having problems resizing ntfs partitions ;)
[10:54] <DARKGuy> tremulous is like Natural Selection :p
[10:54] <Sling> i have the bcml5 driver installed and it says hardware present
[10:54] <meheren> Slart, from people other then me?... heh
[10:54] <alink1000> I tried the ubuntu wikis, and got nothing to help with 7zip.
[10:54] <Slart> meheren: nope =)
[10:54] <pike_> alink1000: indeed
[10:54] <alink1000> Anyone want to walk me through it? :)
[10:54] <LjL> !7z
[10:54] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[10:54] <LjL> what's the problem alink1000?
[10:54] <meheren> Slart, ah i see what you mean
[10:55] <alink1000> I'd like to extract a 7z archive.
[10:55] <meheren> Slart, ok ill try that
[10:55] <LinTux> is their a universal driver for Nvidia PCI-E cards
[10:55] <alink1000> Super Mario World hacks to be specific. :)
[10:55] <jmartini> I'm having issues changing the default sound card in System>Preferences>Sound from my SB card to my USB headset. They both show up in the combo box but changes are not saved. Any ideas?
[10:55] <Flannel> lunaphyte_: if that for some odd reason won't work, just select the "don't install a bootloader" option, then install grub manually later
[10:55] <alink1000> is file roller in synaptic package manger?
[10:55] <alink1000> *manager
[10:55] <Red-Sox> can you compile a .dmg in linux?
[10:55] <imbecile> Jowi,  I cant get nm-applet to pull up a frontend at all
[10:55] <un4get> woo man.. thank a lot all you guy.. now im playing mp3 song :).. ubuntu ROX
[10:55] <Slart> meheren: I don't know if gnome partition editor is included with the default install.. but it should be able to resize it.. if you boot from the live cd
[10:55] <LjL> alink1000: file roller is installed by default. i think it's in the Accessories menu or something (dunno, i use KDE myself).
[10:56] <LjL> alink1000: what you need to install is the "p7zip" package anyway
[10:56] <meheren> Slart, ok
[10:56] <Sling> anyone have a few mins to spare for wireless help?
[10:56] <alink1000> I did.
[10:56] <alink1000> yesterday or something
[10:56] <alink1000> now what?
[10:56] <alink1000> don't give me that man p7zip command... it didn't help...
[10:56] <alink1000> =|
[10:56] <adaptr> rrittenhouse: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[10:56] <Jowi> imbecile, clicking on the icon should give you a list with wireless access points that is nearby. if your wireless network card is not activated you will not see that.
[10:57] <alink1000> so...
[10:57] <LjL> alink1000: well, aside from what is in the manual page, i cannot say much if you don't give me some more information about the problem. is there an error?
[10:57] <adaptr> rrittenhouse: but you can just choose "console session'" from the login screen; X will run briefly, until you log in - then it will exit
[10:57] <belkin> how do i start configuration editor, i cannot find it anywhere . i need to make some changes to Nautilus
[10:57] <Flannel> belkin: youll need to install it first
[10:58] <adaptr> !gconf | belkin
[10:58] <ubotu> gconf: GNOME configuration database system. (daemon and tools). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.9-7.1 (edgy), package size 380 kB, installed size 1484 kB
[10:58] <alink1000> when I click on "Open with p7zip" it just doubles it so "Super Mario World.7z.7z" and that's it.
[10:58] <phr34ck> Guys, where I can see Ubuntu heirarchy? Like Linux kernel, something is build upon it, and then something, and then something = Ubuntu OS.
[10:58] <phr34ck> how do I know all these stuff ?
[10:58] <mpGoodwin> Why does dhclient not set the hostname when dhcpd is configured to provide one.
[10:58] <adaptr> phr34ck: years and years of experience :)
[10:58] <Flannel> phr34ck: what do you mean?  Like all the packages that make up ubuntu?
[10:58] <phr34ck> Flannel, no.
[10:58] <alink1000> so, um.. yeah
[10:58] <adaptr> phr34ck: but really, any good Linux tutorial should explain the important bits
[10:58] <alink1000> what else would you suggest?
[10:58] <LjL> alink1000: uh? so you didn't just try "p7zip -d filename" from a console?
[10:59] <phr34ck> Well, Gnome is built upon GNU, right?
[10:59] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Red-Sox[away]  about away | Red-Sox[away] , see the private message from Ubotu
[10:59] <adaptr> phr34ck: I'd suggest anyone new to Linux to start with the rute user's guide
[10:59] <alink1000> d'oh!
[10:59] <jpjacobs> !rute>phr34ck
[10:59] <phr34ck> and GNU is built upon the linux kernel, if I'm not mistaken.
[10:59] <adaptr> phr34ck: nope
[10:59] <Flannel> phr34ck: yeah, Linux is linux.  So any "this is how linux works" article on the web will tell you.
[10:59] <jpjacobs> that explains a lot
[10:59] <adaptr> phr34ck: also nope
[10:59] <alink1000> I'mma try it now, and see if it helps
[10:59] <jpjacobs> phr34ck, see the pm ubotu send you
[10:59] <Slart> phr34ck: GNU existed before linux, If I'm correctly informed
[10:59] <phr34ck> adaptr, I was just giving an example to give you an idea on what I need exactly.
[10:59] <belkin> Flannel whats the name of the package apt cannot find anything
[11:00] <rrittenhouse> adaptr, thanks ;)
[11:00] <Sling> anyone have a few mins to spare for wireless help?
[11:00] <belkin> Flannel i did add extras repos ..
[11:00] <h3xis> Slart, that's right
[11:00] <adaptr> phr34ck: you may be misunderstanding what "built upon" means - it does not mean what you are referring to; that would properly be called "interoperates with"
[11:00] <mnoir> phr34ck: this is not a complete answer but prolly worth you looking at: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/
[11:00] <Flannel> belkin: gconf, it's in universe.
[11:00] <Jowi> phr34ck, http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3370/2500/1600/GNULinux.jpg is that close enough
[11:00] <alink1000> All it did was show me this:
[11:00] <alink1000> Usage: /usr/bin/p7zip [-d]  [-h|--help]  [file] 
[11:00] <alink1000>     -h print this help
[11:00] <alink1000>     -d decompress file
[11:00] <adaptr> phr34ck: as in, Linux interoperates with GNU which interoperates with Gnome
[11:01] <pike_> Sling: might get more help if you just ask your questions
[11:01] <alink1000> so, um... yeeah
[11:01] <pike_> Sling: somone will probably respond
[11:01] <belkin> Flannel thanks
[11:01] <LjL> alink1000: what had you typed, exactly?
[11:01] <belkin> Flannel familiar with fstab ? i have the command line but im not sure with something
[11:01] <alink1000> p7zip -d Super Mario World.7z
[11:01] <phr34ck> Thanks people. will read and see if I'll come up with something useful.
[11:01] <Tonren> jmibanez: http://rafb.net/p/2V3BG399.html
[11:02] <Slingky> hi huys!
[11:02] <jmartini> I'm having issues changing the default sound card in System>Preferences>Sound from my SB card to my USB headset. They both show up in the combo box but changes are not saved. Any ideas?
[11:02] <adaptr> phr34ck: in the way you use the term, *everything* builds upon the Linux kernel - that's why it's the kernel
[11:02] <Flannel> belkin: I'm no fstab guru, but I can read it.  what you looking for?
[11:02] <mnoir> alink1000: those spaces will screw you up...
[11:02] <jmibanez> Tonren: fwiw, http://rafb.net/p/PJia8J66.html <- my daemon.log, for a working wifi association
[11:02] <DeathFox> how can i tell which version of ubuntu i got
[11:02] <alink1000> ah...
[11:02] <LjL> alink1000: ah. no space in filenames. either use quotation marks, or use "\ " instead of " "
[11:02] <lunaphyte_> Flannel: i'm not seeing grub - https://www.groundnoise.net/files/ubuntu/DSC00272.png https://www.groundnoise.net/files/ubuntu/DSC00273.png -  it does seem odd.  will i be stuck when it reboots at the end of the install if i haven't installed a bootloader?
[11:02] <alink1000> so I underline 'em?
[11:02] <LjL> DeathFox: lsb_release -a
[11:02] <elyon225> Before I reinstalled Ubuntu, I remember there being some kind of Boot Up manager that allowed me to run programs at startup.  I can no longer find that app... anyone know where that is?
[11:02] <Tonren> god dammit.. XChat still won't open links in Firefox
[11:02] <mnoir> !version | DeathFox
[11:02] <ubotu> DeathFox: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[11:03] <belkin> Flannel can i change noauto to auto in this case /dev/device /mnt/point filesystem rw,user,noauto 1 1  and set ubuntu to auto login to a specific user ?
[11:03] <phr34ck> adaptr, what I was aiming for is how Ubuntu is layered. I'm not sure if that's the correct word.
[11:03] <mnoir> alink1000: no - you gotta escape them
[11:03] <Sling> on my compaq presario v2000, i have setup all the drivers and blacklisted bcm43xx.  if i do a ndiswrapper -l it says bcmwl5 driver installed, hardware present....i restart, and when i do, the wireless light ont eh laptop just blinks, it doe snot stay constant which is what it does on windows.  i cannot access the internet or router either
[11:03] <alink1000> SuperMarioWorld.7z?
[11:03] <DeathFox> what would cause my scrolling on websites and chat to have waves
[11:03] <DeathFox> and not normal scrolling
[11:03] <Tonren> jmibanez: I can't tell what the operative difference is
[11:03] <mnoir> um i think a\ b escapes the space
[11:03] <mpGoodwin> alink "Super Mario World.7z"
[11:03] <mnoir> so that would be 'a b'
[11:03] <alink1000> k
[11:03] <lxuser> I cant change themes in ubuntu edgy only the icons and windows deco only
[11:03] <Slingky> my recycle bin displays nothing. but files go to .Trash, is there a way to solve this ???
[11:03] <jmartini> DeathFox: I hate to say it but it's probably your X configuration
[11:03] <belkin> Flannel right now its set to noauto and i have to mount it manually everytime, will it work if i change it ? so it will be mounted at boot ? with rw permission for the user
[11:04] <Tonren> Sling: That's bizarre.  I'm on a Presario v2565us (that's v2000 series as well) and ndiswrapper has been working for me.
[11:04] <LjL> 1) quotation marks around the filename   2) a backslash before each space   ---  pick one.
[11:04] <lxuser> all of this happened after uninstalling kde gui
[11:04] <kane77> lxuser, what else?
[11:04] <Tonren> Slingky: Have you done sudo depmod -a?
[11:04] <DeathFox> how do i install a .sh file theres a script on the unbuntu forums that installs my video drivers
[11:04] <Flannel> lunaphyte_: you'll need to install a bootloader.  Continue without installing, then follow the firstlink on the following factoid
[11:04] <Flannel> !grub | lunaphyte_
[11:04] <ubotu> lunaphyte_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:04] <DeathFox> but its a .sh file
[11:04] <lxuser> well doesnt change colors
[11:04] <pike_> DeathFox: open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"  and go to town man
[11:04] <un4get> mmm
[11:04] <jmibanez> Tonren: i'm doing a side-by-side visual
[11:04] <Tonren> DeathFox: In terminal: chmod +x (scriptname); ./scriptname
[11:04] <Sling> Tonren do you have any ideas
[11:04] <LjL> well, alink1000, or 3), just use the TAB key. that will autocomplete filenames and command names
[11:04] <LjL> which is probably what most people would normally do
[11:04] <PriceChild> DeathFox, what drivers?
[11:04] <mnoir> DeathFox: 'install' an .sh file?
[11:04] <alink1000> okay
[11:04] <Sling> Tonren.  Like what did u do after u installed the drivers?
[11:05] <LjL> !tab | alink1000
[11:05] <ubotu> alink1000: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[11:05] <PriceChild> DeathFox, I wouldn't be isntalling drivers like that.... what card do you have?
[11:05] <lxuser> in one accout
[11:05] <nephish> lo there
[11:05] <LjL> so you just type Super<TAB> and you should probably get the correct filename
[11:05] <jmartini> pike_: That will only help him in some cases. I just had to pretty much write my xorg.conf file from scratch
[11:05] <lxuser> but if I create other account is solved
[11:05] <Tonren> Sling: Try this: sudo rmmod bcm43xx; sudo modprobe ndiswrapper; sudo depmod -a;
[11:05] <belkin> !fstab
[11:05] <DeathFox> it told me permission denied
[11:05] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[11:05] <lxuser> it just in one account
[11:05] <DeathFox> ii got a ati xpress 200
[11:05] <alink1000> zach@zach-desktop:~$ p7zip -d "Super Mario World.7z"
[11:05] <alink1000> 7-Zip (A) 4.42  Copyright (c) 1999-2006 Igor Pavlov  2006-05-14
[11:05] <alink1000> p7zip Version 4.42 (locale=en_US.UTF-8,Utf16=on,HugeFiles=on,1 CPU)
[11:05] <alink1000> Error:
[11:05] <alink1000> there is no such archive
[11:05] <LjL> Ubotu, tell alink1000 about paste | alink1000, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:06] <LjL> you're not in the right directory, i guess
[11:06] <LjL> did you use TAB?
[11:06] <kane__> !paste | alink1000
[11:06] <ubotu> alink1000: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[11:06] <logivision> I'm willing to give somebody complete control of my PC to help me get a window's app working on it !!!
[11:06] <PriceChild> logivision, what app?
[11:06] <lxuser> is there any config file that is not allowed me to change the colors in my themes
[11:06] <LjL> logivision: good idea (not)
[11:06] <PriceChild> logivision, not a good idea to give others access
[11:06] <Sling> Tonren. this could be the issue, it says ERROR: Module bcm34xx does not exist in /proc/modules
[11:06] <logivision> PriceChild: I know. But i've tried _everything_ !! !
[11:06] <adaptr> phr34ck: well, yes and no - when you are running a Gnome desktop you can sort of point to things and take apart the layers they represent on top of the kernel.. but everything is much more interwoven than that
[11:06] <jmartini> !ati | DeathFox
[11:06] <ubotu> DeathFox: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:06] <lunaphyte_> Flannel: thanks
[11:07] <LjL> alink1000: if the file is located on the desktop, you need to cd to the desktop. or whatever relevant directory it is located in
[11:07] <PriceChild> logivision, what program?
[11:07] <logivision> PriceChild: If i see anything bad going on, I can turn it off. If not when they are done I can disable permissions and such
[11:07] <Tonren> Sling: Don't worry, that just means that bcm43xx wasn't already there.  We were removing (rm)ing it anyway.
[11:07] <alink1000> and what command would I use for that?
[11:07] <LjL> Ubotu, tell alink1000 about cli | alink1000, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:07] <Jowi> alink1000, to extract 7z files use the command "7z x filename.7z"
[11:07] <LjL> alink1000: "cd"
[11:07] <Sling> ahhh alright....so what next?
[11:07] <Tonren> Sling: OK.  Now that that's done.  Please pastebin the output of sudo iwconfig and sudo ifconfig
[11:07] <PriceChild> logivision, what program?
[11:07] <phr34ck> I hear that Ubuntu is based on Debian. Debian is a distribution or what ?
[11:07] <logivision> PriceChild: it's a Point Of Sale system. It's a client and it's connecting to a server. The software is all window's based though.
[11:07] <Slart> !debian
[11:07] <jmartini> I'm having issues changing the default sound card in System>Preferences>Sound from my SB card to my USB headset. They both show up in the combo box but changes are not saved. Any ideas?
[11:07] <ubotu> Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship
[11:07] <elyon225> Before I reinstalled Ubuntu, I remember there being some kind of Boot Up manager that allowed me to run programs at startup.  I can no longer find that app... anyone know where that is?
[11:07] <mnoir> !debian | phr34ck
[11:07] <adaptr> phr34ck: a very long-established one, yes - it was the 3rd or so
[11:07] <ubotu> phr34ck: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship
[11:07] <Flannel> belkin: removing noauto should mount it, yes.
[11:07] <LjL> Jowi, that's not the point, i'm sure "p7zip -d filename" will work just as well, *once* you get the filename right
[11:08] <Sling> says...no wireless extentions
[11:08] <jmibanez> Tonren: will you ever be connecting to WPA networks?
[11:08] <foglight> logivision: have you tried cedega?
[11:08] <PriceChild> logivision, for the last time... what program?
[11:08] <Tonren> jmibanez: Probably not.
[11:08] <Sling> for iwconfig
[11:08] <logivision> PriceChild: I just told you uptop.
[11:08] <LjL> alink1000: so, is the file on the desktop?
[11:08] <PriceChild> logivision, If i have the name I can search a couple of databases...
[11:08] <PriceChild> logivision, i need the name
[11:08] <PriceChild> logivision, not what it does
[11:08] <alink1000> yeah
[11:08] <DeathFox> PriceChild,  well its an ATI xpress 200m
[11:08] <Sling> Tonren how do i pastebin
[11:08] <belkin> Flannel ok thanks
[11:08] <PriceChild> !paste | Sling
[11:08] <ubotu> Sling: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[11:08] <_3fg> I have one of those DeathFox
[11:09] <logivision> PriceChild: The company that makes it is called Maitre'D and the program's name that i'm running to run is named WSSETUP.exe
[11:09] <LjL> alink1000: then "cd ~/Desktop", then "p7zip -d Super<TAB>"  (meaning, hit TAB after typing that)
[11:09] <_3fg> what are you trying to do with it?
[11:09] <Tonren> Sling: Type "/topic" into your IRC chat program and click on the "Pastes to" link
[11:09] <trylik> question :) how can i join ubuntu-laptop irc channel?
[11:09] <foglight> logivision: have you tried Cedega?
[11:09] <DeathFox> 3fg im trying to make my video not be in laggy waves when screen scrolls
[11:09] <jmibanez> Tonren: umm, move /etc/wpa_supplicant/ifupdown.sh out of the way... temporarily
[11:09] <LjL> trylik: /join #ubuntu-laptop
[11:09] <jmartini> trylik: /join ubuntu-laptop
[11:09] <DeathFox> i get these very laggy waves when i try to scroll
[11:09] <jmartini> the other
[11:09] <logivision> foglight: No, i've never heard of it or had it suggested, only Wine and CrossOver
[11:09] <DeathFox> or somethen
[11:09] <_3fg> DeathFox: what do you mean when the screen scrolls?
[11:09] <Jowi> LjL, -d doesn't appear in its manpage
[11:09] <logivision> !cedega
[11:09] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[11:09] <DeathFox> ..
[11:09] <_3fg> when you scroll through text?
[11:09] <mnoir> LjL: not sure he should unzip there - his desktop is about to look like my wife's
[11:09] <DeathFox> when you scroll down chat browser etc
[11:09] <foglight> logivision: You can get help in #cedega too
[11:09] <DeathFox> its laggy waves
[11:09] <LjL> Jowi: p7zip [-d]  [-h|--help]  [file] 
[11:10] <logivision> foglight: it's not a game, i've tried using Wine and Crossover and both don't work..
[11:10] <Tonren> jmibanez: OK
[11:10] <jmibanez> Tonren: or, remove the symlink at /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/wpasupplicant
[11:10] <DeathFox> not normal scrolling
[11:10] <alink1000> THANK YOU
[11:10] <logivision> foglight: well they work but i belive it might be something in the configuration or ...something
[11:10] <alink1000> :D
[11:10] <alink1000> :D:D:D:D
[11:10] <Sling> Tonren. i can't exactly do a paste.... i'm on a different computer
[11:10] <Tonren> jmibanez: I just moved the /etc/wpa_supplicant file to ifupdown.sh.bak
[11:10] <_3fg> DeathFox: have you checked to see if your drivers are up-to-date?
[11:10] <LjL> mnoir: if the archive doesn't create a directory, guess so
[11:10] <jmibanez> Tonren: and the other symlinks in /etc/network/if*.d/ related to wpasupplicant
[11:10] <alink1000> :D :D :D :D *
[11:10] <Tonren> Sling: Oh, of course.
[11:10] <mnoir> :)
[11:10] <jmibanez> Tonren: oh ok, that'd work too
[11:10] <PriceChild> logivision, its not in the wine app database... I would suggest installing wine, then doing a "wine <<command>>"
[11:10] <LjL> alink1000: you're welcome, but no need to spam :)
[11:10] <jmibanez> Tonren: then try associating again. this'll bypass wpa_supplicant completely
[11:10] <DeathFox> _3fg im new what do i do
[11:10] <alink1000> kay...
[11:10] <Lynoure> logivision: If all of the company is going Linux, you might consider a Linux PoS, there is plenty
[11:10] <Sling> Tonren. when i plug it in i cannot get connect either....i can access the router, but i cannot access the intnet
[11:10] <Tonren> jmibanez: "associating"?
[11:10] <foglight> logivision: cedega sets up the confif pretty well, it doesnt have to be a game
[11:11] <jmibanez> Tonren: i'm beginning to think that the wireless extensions relating to WPA are incomplete on bcm43xx
[11:11] <Tonren> Sling: That sounds like a DNS issue.
[11:11] <jmartini> DeathFox: what does `grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf` say?
[11:11] <Tonren> jmibanez: I'm on ndiswrapper now, thouguh.
[11:11] <_3fg> DeathFox: I'm fairly new too, so listen to him
[11:11] <jmibanez> Tonren: and that that's preventing NetworkManager from going through completely
[11:11] <jmibanez> Tonren: either/or
[11:11] <Sling> Tonren i thought about that, the forums say add the ISP DNS to the list......i don't understand that...how do i know the ISP DNS ip?
[11:11] <Tonren> Sling: On your other computer, try navigating to this IP address in your browser; http://72.14.207.99
[11:11] <jmibanez> Tonren: it seems like there's a problem relating to WPA, but since you don't need it, we moved it out of the way for now.
[11:11] <Tonren> jmibanez: OK.  I'll try again in a minute.
[11:11] <jmibanez> Tonren: by associating, i mean, using NetworkManager
[11:11] <Tonren> jmibanez: Ohh, ok.
[11:12] <logivision> Lynoure: we have a license to sell this one, and it's a great point of sale, in the top 5 in canada. Also, the companya all know's how to use it and we excel in using it. We only want to change the work stations over not the servers.
[11:12] <juano__> anyone know how to accept ports 6890 to 6900 for webcam for amsn?
[11:12] <jmibanez> Tonren: clicking on nm-applet, selecting the wireless network
[11:12] <LjL> Jowi: note that there is a "p7zip" package and a "p7zip-full" package. you're probably using the latter, while i have the former. the former contains a "p7zip" executable, while the latter contains a "7z" executable, with different syntaxes
[11:12] <Sling> Tonren. nope....didn't work
[11:12] <DeathFox> jmartini,  i tried to config it a sec ago like guy told me idk what happend
[11:12] <logivision> foglight: thanks, i'll take a look in their channel for some help
[11:12] <juano__> anyone know how to accept ports 6890 to 6900 for webcam for amsn?
[11:12] <DeathFox>         Driver          "kbd"
[11:12] <DeathFox>         Driver          "mouse"
[11:12] <DeathFox>   Driver        "wacom"
[11:12] <DeathFox>   Driver        "wacom"
[11:12] <DeathFox>   Driver        "wacom"
[11:12] <DeathFox>         Driver          "ati"
[11:12] <DeathFox> er srry
[11:12] <DeathFox> dident mean to paste that
[11:12] <juano__> !paste | DeathFox
[11:12] <ubotu> DeathFox: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[11:12] <logivision> !pastbin | deathfox
[11:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:12] <Tonren> Sling: Hm.  OK, on your working computer, ping google.com and write down its IP address.  Then try navigating to that IP address in the browser of your laptop.
[11:12] <speed89> hi
[11:13] <jmartini> DeathFox: ok you're using the free ati driver. I've had better luck with the non-free fglrx driver from ATI.
[11:13] <juano__> anyone know how to accept ports 6890 to 6900 for webcam for amsn?
[11:13] <belkin> Flannel :( now looks like gconf its installed but i still cannot start it any help please
[11:13] <LjL> juano__: depends entirely on your router
[11:13] <jmartini> DeathFox: There is a HOWTO on the ubunto website for installing it
[11:13] <DeathFox> jmartini,  thats what it says tho
[11:13] <Lynoure> logivision: Depending on your reason of switching, and usage, having vmware for the PoS might do the trick if nothing else will
[11:13] <DeathFox> can i get a link
[11:13] <fleischwurst> good night everyone
[11:13] <Sling> Tonren nothing
[11:14] <pike_> juano__: by default firewall rules dont prevent so youre looking at your router as the problem. type "route -n"  youll getn an entry lik 000000   192.168.1.1 that 192. is what you need to type in address bar of firefox
[11:14] <Jowi> LjL, hmmm... p7zip is the only package available to me. p7zip is not included in it. 4.30.dfsg-1 dapper universe...
[11:14] <Tonren> Sling: OK, it's not STRICTLY a DNS issue.  If it was, that would work.
[11:14] <Flannel> belkin: what do you mean you can't start it?
[11:14] <logivision> Lynoure: We want to get away from spending $100 on each POS for a copy of window's, so VMWare would defeat the purpose.
[11:14] <Sling> Tonren yay
[11:14] <Tonren> Sling: Unfortunately, I don't really have the time to help you in depth... I'm trying to figure out something on my own at the moment.
[11:14] <Tonren> Sling: Umm... ok, summarize what you see when you type iwconfig and ifconfig
[11:14] <Sling> Tonren shucks...thanks anyways
[11:14] <belkin> Flannel well i cannot see it in my ubuntu start menu and i tryed to start it from terminal " gconf " :)
[11:14] <speed89> someone can help me? I have a trouble with my combo dvd, it read cd, but it isn't able to read dvd format. The error message that appears is:"unable to mount the selected volume. The volume is probably in a format that cannot be mounted
[11:14] <DeathFox> how do you run a .sh file i tried that one way it wont let me
[11:14] <brussel> anybody know why xchat won't allow me to join channel #Perl?
[11:15] <pike_> DeathFox: do "bash filename.sh"
[11:15] <LjL> Jowi: well then i guess that's been changed in Edgy. basically, p7zip only supports 7z file, while p7zip-full claims to also support ZIP, Zip64, CAB, RAR, ARJ, GZIP, BZIP2, TAR, CPIO, RPM, ISO and DEB
[11:15] <Flannel> belkin: oh, sorry.  remove gconf, install gconf-editor, it'll pull in gconf2
[11:15] <mnoir> DeathFox: you just type it's name in a terminal window
[11:15] <jmartini> DeathFox: use sudo
[11:15] <Flannel> belkin: so, gconf2 is the package we shouldve told you about, gconf-editor is the editor for the gconf2 database
[11:15] <Jowi> LjL, ok. thanks for the heads up in case i upgrade
[11:15] <DeathFox> bash worked
[11:15] <webmaren> I'm setting up msttcorefonts manually
[11:15] <jmartini> DeathFox: like this: sudo ./install.sh
[11:15] <Lynoure> logivision: you could bug the company that makes it to make a Linux port, too. It might be easy idea to sell to them, as you are not probably the only ones wanting to save that way.
[11:16] <DeathFox> ya i tried that jmartini
[11:16] <DeathFox> it dident work
[11:16] <webmaren> do the fonts go in their own subfolders in ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts/
[11:16] <DeathFox> the bash filename.sh did tho
[11:16] <juano__> pike_: so what would i need to enable these ports?
[11:16] <Sling_> tonren lo no wireless, eth0 no wireless eth1 signal level 0 noise lvl 0 link qual 0 everything 0, sit0 no wireless
[11:16] <DeathFox> when i install my video driver what do i do then
[11:16] <juano__> pike_: im routing through a windows XP machine
[11:16] <DeathFox> do i have to config it or somethen
[11:16] <jmartini> DeathFox: I'd use the fglrx driver package then, rather than the install.sh
[11:16] <mpGoodwin> Why does dhclient not set the hostname when dhcpd is configured to provide one.
[11:17] <Tonren> Sling_: OK.  Do you see anything when you type "sudo iwlist eth1 scan"?
[11:17] <Sling_> tonren ifconfig i get an ip from router
[11:17] <DeathFox> jmartini i dont know much i cant do much cause the video lag is bad i can hardly browser a single page
[11:17] <Lynoure> logivision: but good luck with the transition, I love doing those :)
[11:17] <djohnny79> Good evening everybody
[11:17] <belkin> Flannel gconf-editor is already the newest version how do i start it ?
[11:17] <koreleone> hi everybody
[11:17] <Sling_> tonren
[11:17] <Sling_> tonren yes i see the network i want
[11:18] <speed89> someone can help me? I have a trouble with my combo dvd, it read cd, but it isn't able to read dvd format. The error message that appears is:"unable to mount the selected volume. The volume is probably in a format that cannot be mounted"
[11:18] <Flannel> belkin: try "gksudo gconf-editor"
[11:18] <pike_> juano__: oh. best bet would be to buy a hardware router.  sorry not too familair with configuring windows for that
[11:18] <belkin> Flannel works thanks
[11:18] <juano__> pike_: k
[11:18] <belkin> Flannel shouldnt be on my ubuntu start menu ?
[11:18] <Lunar_Lamp> Whenever I change desktop (on gnome, edgy) my KDE apps start flashing in the taskbar for attention (like when you have an IM).  This is really annoying, and a clear bug.  How can I stop this happening?
[11:18] <Tonren> Sling_: OK, try typing this: sudo ifconfig eth0 down; sudo ifconfig eth1 up; sudo iwconfig eth1 essid any; sudo iwconfig eth1 ap any; sudo dhclient -1 eth1;
[11:19] <Jowi> speed89, is it a movie DVD?
[11:19] <speed89> jowi it contains divx
[11:19] <taitarya000> hello?
[11:19] <Jowi> speed89, do you have a movie DVD to try with?
[11:19] <pike_> taitarya000: hi
[11:20] <speed89> I see, just a second
[11:20] <taitarya000> ?
[11:20] <Tonren> Sling_: It shouldn't make a difference if you put all those commands on 1 line or multiple, but I usually put 'em on multiple lines
[11:20] <Tonren> taitarya000: Sup .
[11:20] <elyon225> Before I reinstalled Ubuntu, I remember there being some kind of Boot Up manager that allowed me to run programs at startup.  I can no longer find that app... anyone know where that is?
[11:20] <Tonren> elyon225: gksudo bum
[11:20] <taitarya000> sup guys
[11:20] <taitarya000> long time no see
[11:20] <elyon225> Tonren: Thank you.
[11:20] <speed89> jowi, no, I haven't one
[11:20] <Tonren> elyon225: That's for boot-up.  If you want to run programs when GNOME logs in, go to System -> Preferences -> Sessions -> Startup
[11:20] <pianoboy3333> Can anyone help print to a HP LaserJet 1000 connected to a Windows XP machine on my house network?
[11:21] <taitarya000> have any of you seen my` pet monkey
[11:21] <elyon225> Tonren: Ah... that's what I was looking for.  bum gave me an error and didn't load.
[11:21] <Tonren> pianoboy3333: Unplug it and plug it into the Linux box.  *Rimshot*
[11:21] <Sling_> tonren its doing a search i htink do i let it continue?
[11:21] <Tonren> elyon225: OKey doke.  Boot up and login are two distinct things - make sure people know which one you mean.
[11:21] <Jowi> speed89, try with another data DVD then. if you can't mount even that you should get a movie DVD to test with. you can play a movie DVD without mounting it with "mplayer dvd://" so at least you would know if the dvdcombo is broken or not
[11:21] <Sling_> tonren its done...says unable to obtain a lease on first try.  exiting
[11:21] <pianoboy3333> Tonren: I really need a serious answer... if you wanna give an answer like that, give it to me in -offtopic... I know this may sound harsh, but I need to print...
[11:21] <Tonren> Sling_: Hmmm...
[11:22] <gnomo_x> 1004 users!! :o
[11:22] <Tonren> pianoboy3333: I understand.  Didn't mean to come off as asinine.
[11:22] <speed89> jowi, I've found a movie dvd, I'm gonna try
[11:22] <elyon225> Tonren: I thought that I remembered seeing an icon for "Boot-Up Manager" in gnome... but its not there anymore.
[11:22] <Tonren> pianoboy3333: Is it connected directly to a windows box, or to a router with a print server?
[11:22] <Sling_> tonren was i suppose to type any or what i suppose to type the ssid of the network
[11:22] <pianoboy3333> Tonren: directly connected, it was working fine, up until a few weeks ago, I'm on edgy/gnome
[11:22] <Tonren> Sling_: "any" usually works, but now we'll try the ESSID instead of any.  type sudo iwconfig eth1 essid "essid"
[11:22] <taitarya000> Windows kicks Ubuntu's butt!!!
[11:22] <ompaul> taitarya000, this is not a chat channel, you may have it confused with some other channel, it strictly a support channel
[11:23] <taitarya000> ohh...
[11:23] <Tonren> Sling_: (replacing the second essid w/ your network, of course.)
[11:23] <Tonren> Sling_: Then try sudo dhclient -1 eth1 again
[11:23] <jmibanez> taitarya000: and we kick *your* butt anytime :P
[11:23] <lovloss> how do i know what my architecture is? i think i386 might be it but im not sure
[11:23] <taitarya000> can you guys give me some cheat codes for Nibbles...
[11:23] <speed89> jowi, the following message appeared:"no URL handler implemented for "DVD""
[11:23] <elyon225> taitarya000: Google for nibbles and cheat if you want.
[11:23] <ompaul> elyon225, don't feed the troll thanks
[11:24] <trylik> tell me, can i get some support here?
[11:24] <Tonren> lovloss: If you're on Windows, you're probably 32 bit unless your computer says 64bit somewhere.  If you're on a mac, you're PowerPC or Intel (you'll know if it's Intel).
[11:24] <elyon225> ompaul: Oh yeah.. missed the sign.  Sorry ;)
[11:24] <Tonren> !ask | trylik
[11:24] <ubotu> trylik: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:24] <Flannel> lovloss: what sort of computer do you have?
[11:24] <DeathFox> man sux i just instaleld linux and i got this video lag everytime somethen scrolls chat browser etc it has a 3 sec lag and it looks like a wave
[11:24] <Tonren> pianoboy3333: Hmm... I have to test something on my own computer, but I'll be back in a sec.  Might be able to help out, but keep asking.  ;P
[11:24] <gnomo_x> hey, only english here?
[11:24] <lovloss> Flannel / Tonren  its just a PC... pretty much custom. i donty have windows on it.
[11:24] <speed89> Jovi 're u there?
[11:24] <elyon225> DeathFox: Sounds like you need to setup your video card.
[11:24] <trylik> i have problem with digital sound output on my laptop
[11:24] <jmibanez> DeathFox: check your x.org drivers
[11:24] <pike_> gnomo_x: what language you want?
[11:24] <ompaul> gnomo_x, yes, what language do you want?
[11:25] <gnomo_x> portuguese xD
[11:25] <Flannel> lovloss: what processor does it have?
[11:25] <ompaul> !pr
[11:25] <DeathFox> ya im trying to install some drivers
[11:25] <ubuntu-probs> I was wondering if anyone else was having problems getting even the GNU flash plugin to work on Edgy amd64.. it installs with no errors and it is in the plugins dir.. but every site tells me it's not installed..
[11:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:25] <jmibanez> DeathFox: you might be inadvertently using the least-common-denominator vesa driver
[11:25] <DeathFox> but im new and probley got it wrong
[11:25] <ompaul> !br
[11:25] <pianoboy3333> Can anyone help print to a HP LaserJet 1000 connected to a Windows XP machine on my house network? I'm on edgy/gnome.
[11:25] <lovloss> Flannel An athlon AMD
[11:25] <alink1000> Hey, how come my sound in zsnes is all distorted and messed up, even though I fixed the settings and reset the game? ...and even restarted x.
[11:25] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[11:25] <trylik> is it possible to change the volume of the output, for example with kMix?
[11:25] <Flannel> !pt
[11:25] <djohnny79> Hey everybody
[11:25] <Jowi> speed89, yeah. you used "mplayer dvd://"?
[11:25] <Flannel> lovloss: yeah, it's i386
[11:25] <DeathFox> ya i got a amd atholon 64
[11:25] <variant> ubuntu-probs: gnash is alpha software and not very stable yet
[11:25] <Sling_> tonren same error...unable to obtain lease on first try, but it seems like the iwconfig eth1 essid "Essid" worked
[11:25] <lovloss> Flannel: Ok n.n
[11:25] <alink1000> so, um... yeeah
[11:25] <pianoboy3333> alink1000: make suer that zsnes is using alsa...
[11:25] <un4get> help Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:25] <un4get> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:25] <un4get> is only available from another source
[11:25] <pianoboy3333> *sure
[11:25] <djohnny79> is there anybody who has experience with gallery2? please pm me
[11:25] <constantine-xvi> how do you make a script run on boot?
[11:25] <alink1000> how do I make sure it's using alsa?
[11:26] <djohnny79> or anybody who knows where to find help?
[11:26] <alink1000> nvm
[11:26] <jmartini> DeathFox: have a look at this url, it helped me immensely: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[11:26] <pianoboy3333> !tell un4get about dvd
[11:26] <DeathFox> jmibanez,  i dont know what tha tmeans or what to do lol
[11:26] <un4get> i already install vlc
[11:26] <jmibanez> DeathFox: you're on ubuntu, i figure :P
[11:26] <pianoboy3333> !dvd > un4get
[11:26] <ubuntu-probs> variant: Any idea why even installing flash 9 doesn't even list or is that in the same stability stage?
[11:26] <un4get> ok
[11:26] <speed89> jovi, totem movie player
[11:26] <alink1000> nope, I can't find that option...
[11:26] <jmibanez> DeathFox: do a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' in a terminal
[11:26] <alink1000> =|
[11:26] <MaverickPT> how do i install the disks manager
[11:26] <pianoboy3333> un4get: ok? I think there's a script on your system, you run, and it installs
[11:26] <trylik> how can i turn the power on my TV-out?
[11:26] <un4get> thank 4 the links
[11:26] <djohnny79> Hello?
[11:26] <pianoboy3333> un4get: it
[11:26] <variant> !flash | ubuntu-probs
[11:26] <ubotu> ubuntu-probs: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:26] <Jowi> speed89, install mplayer and try it
[11:26] <jmibanez> DeathFox: but first, identify what your video card's chipset is
[11:27] <pianoboy3333> Can anyone help print to a HP LaserJet 1000 connected to a Windows XP machine on my house network? I'm on edgy/gnome.
[11:27] <jmibanez> Tonren: hey, wb
[11:27] <Tonren> jmibanez: Hey.  STill no dice.
[11:27] <Tonren> jmibanez: I think I'm callin' it quits, man.
[11:27] <alink1000> so, um... yeeah. how do I make sure it's using alsa? I can't find that option in zsnes.
[11:27] <djohnny79> Oder jmd der deutsch spricht??
[11:27] <Sling_> tonren no dice here either hah
[11:27] <DeathFox> ya edgy
[11:27] <DeathFox> i know basic linux commands nothing major
[11:27] <DeathFox> i havent used in a long long time
[11:27] <DeathFox> sense redhat 9
[11:27] <jmibanez> Tonren: ok... just for the sake of some completion, post me the daemon.log
[11:27] <speed89> Can I find it on synaptic?
[11:27] <djohnny79> UND Ahnung von gallery2 hat?
[11:27] <cowbud> DJGummikuh: wieso was willst du dann?
[11:27] <Tonren> jmibanez: This is the last line: Jan  8 15:26:30 localhost NetworkManager: <WARNING>^I nm_device_802_11_wireless_set_essid (): error setting ESSID to '' for device eth1: Invalid argument
[11:27] <lovloss> Whats the best way to hunt down source code? I need source from Kmix and all im finding is debs.
[11:27] <Tonren> jmibanez: Do you think that could be a hint?
[11:28] <cowbud> DJGummikuh: da gibts auch #ubuntu-de und nein leider nicht aber was hast du fuer eine frage
[11:28] <cowbud> err
[11:28] <mnoir> !sound | alink1000
[11:28] <ubotu> alink1000: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[11:28] <jmibanez> Tonren: maybe... maybe not.
[11:28] <cowbud> Djohnny79: da gibts auch #ubuntu-de und nein leider nicht aber was hast du fuer eine frage
[11:28] <jmibanez> Tonren: i feel sad. :(
[11:28] <Jowi> lovloss, "apt-get source ..."
[11:28] <pianoboy3333> Can anyone help print to a HP LaserJet 1000 connected to a Windows XP machine on my house network? I'm on edgy/gnome.
[11:28] <djohnny79> nee die Gummikuh hab ich im Skype ;-)
[11:28] <lovloss> jowi wow really? o.o
[11:28] <jmibanez> sprechen sie deutsch? nein.
[11:28] <Jowi> lovloss, yes
[11:28] <ompaul> !de
[11:28] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:28] <Tonren> jmibanez: http://rafb.net/p/Rqbfvh83.html
[11:28] <djohnny79> Also kleines mittelgroes Problem, dioe gallery will nich wie ich will
[11:28] <Tonren> jmibanez: That's all for now, man.
[11:29] <jmibanez> Tonren: good luck on that
[11:29] <lovloss> jowi where does the source go?
[11:29] <djohnny79> bzw die will GAR nicht ^
[11:29] <Tonren> jmibanez: THanks.  I'm gonna stick with the command line for now.
[11:29] <ompaul> DJGummikuh, english please
[11:29] <mnoir> !de | djohnny79
[11:29] <jmibanez> Tonren: sorry i couldn't help
[11:29] <ubotu> djohnny79: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:29] <djohnny79> danke
[11:29] <djohnny79> thx
[11:29] <Tonren> jmibanez: S'ok.  You hella tried.
[11:29] <ompaul> woops
[11:29] <mnoir> de nada :)
[11:29] <jmibanez> Tonren: btw, why is still running wpa_supplicant?
[11:29] <mo> how can I detect automatically if an external monitor is connected to my laptop? i want to use diferrent xorg.conf's without selecting the right one by hand.
[11:29] <Jowi> lovloss, to your home directory
[11:29] <jmibanez> Tonren: i thought we moved it out of the way
[11:30] <lovloss> jowi Wow... thats...e asier than i expected. thanks
[11:30] <jmibanez> Tonren: oh well :)
[11:30] <jmibanez> Tonren: if you get it working, kudos :)
[11:30] <DeathFox> did u get my msg jmi
[11:30] <Jowi> lovloss, not that you don't need to use sudo for that
[11:30] <DeathFox> my video is lagging so bad in here
[11:30] <Jowi> lovloss, s/not/note
[11:30] <un4get> cool dvd play well :)
[11:30] <lovloss> jowi yes :)
[11:31] <jmibanez> DeathFox: and i answered you. :P
[11:31] <Jowi> lovloss, you're welcome
[11:31] <DeathFox> i dident get your msg
[11:31] <DeathFox> hmm
[11:31] <jmibanez> DeathFox: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[11:31] <jmibanez> DeathFox: in a term
[11:31] <Sulo_Seppa> Hey guys, I just want to know.. Why do you all use ubuntu? I have used it in the past and didn't like it as much as other versions of linux, so I am just curious.
[11:31] <Tonren> jmibanez: No idea, dude.
[11:31] <jmibanez> DeathFox: identify video card chipset first
[11:31] <adaptr> DeathFox: you need to register to PM
[11:31] <DeathFox> oh
[11:31] <adaptr> !register
[11:31] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[11:32] <jmibanez> later everyone. :) (and if Tonren gets his card working, kudos to him)
[11:33] <DeathFox> can someone here help me with my video that i can PM i cant se ethis screen cause everytime someone talks my screen lag/refreshs and i freeze for a moment
[11:33] <Ruffles> is it possible to play a dvd movie from a shared dvd driver on another pc in the network?
[11:33] <capixaba> I would like some good solution to wireless
[11:33] <Jowi> speed81, sorry i missed your question since you didn't put my name in it... if you have enabled "multiverse" in synaptic you will find it there, yes
[11:33] <capixaba> in the ubuntu
[11:33] <logivision> Lynoure: My internet got disconneced and I can't remember what were working on!
[11:34] <DeathFox> is there a command to refresh xorg
[11:34] <Sling_> on my compaq presario v2000, i have setup all the drivers and blacklisted bcm43xx.  if i do a ndiswrapper -l it says bcmwl5 driver installed, hardware present....i restart, and when i do, the wireless light ont eh laptop just blinks, it doe snot stay constant which is what it does on windows.  i cannot access the internet or router either
[11:34] <capixaba> my wireless was work... I installed with this tutorial http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174&highlight=wireless+broadcom and work... after... no work more... can someone help me please?
[11:34] <logivision> is there a way to see what's happening and why a program crashes ?
[11:35] <mooey> !icewm
[11:35] <ubotu> icewm: wonderful Win95-OS/2-Motif-like window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.28-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 666 kB, installed size 1696 kB
[11:35] <capixaba> Sling_: I have the same problem man
[11:35] <mooey> !blackbox
[11:35] <ubotu> blackbox: Window manager for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.70.1-1.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 251 kB, installed size 768 kB
[11:35] <capixaba> Sling_: my problem is like yours
[11:36] <mnoir> logivision: depends on the program and how it is configged and executed
[11:36] <Sling_> capixaba does ur wireless light blink and all?
[11:36] <capixaba> can someone help me please
[11:36] <mooey> i need a really minimal window manager. something only with virtual desktops and a right click menu that i can place only the items i need in. does anyone have any recommendations?
[11:36] <capixaba> Sling_: my laptop is hp zv6000 wireless broadcom bcm4318
[11:36] <capixaba> :(
[11:37] <laz0r> mooey: fluxbox?
[11:37] <laz0r> mooey: or xfce4
 Sling_: my laptop is hp zv6000 wireless broadcom bcm4318 <== Just saw that line. I presume you're having problems with the wireless card?
[11:38] <mooey> laz0r, i've got xfce installed but the problem is i can't see how to customise the menu on right click, i need to remove a bunch of apps. i want a desktop basically with nothing but a web browser and a text editor, no other distractions like solitair :D
[11:38] <Lunar_Lamp> capixaba, you will want to use Ndiswrapper to get that working - the 4318 driver won't work with the native drivers.
[11:38] <Sling_> Lunar_Lamp i am
[11:38] <lovloss> Jowi: How come source code automoatically belongs to root?
[11:38] <Lunar_Lamp> Sling_, what#s your problem?
[11:38] <capixaba> Lunar_Lamp: I am using bcm43xx
[11:39] <laz0r> mooey: i think there should be a menu.xml somewhere in ~/.xfce4/
[11:39] <Sling_> lunar_lamp wireless light just blinks on the laptop
[11:39] <mooey> laz0r, thank you :-)
[11:39] <krystek> guys do you prefer KDE or rather Gnome ???
[11:39] <capixaba> Lunar_Lamp: when I run ndiswrapper I cant load with modprobe... can u help me with it?
[11:39] <capixaba> Lunar_Lamp: please?
[11:39] <Lunar_Lamp> wait, sling AND capixaba are both having bcm4318 problems at the same time?
[11:39] <laz0r> mooey: and theres a tool called xfce4-menueditor too
[11:39] <riotkittie> i prefer gnome over kde
[11:40] <laz0r> mooey: http://www.xfce.org/documentation/docs-4.2/xfdesktop.html
[11:40] <mooey> laz0r, i looked at that but it didn't seem to let me remove a bunch of items
[11:40] <Sling> lunar_lamp i thinks so
[11:40] <lovloss> How come when i apt-get source the source belongs to root
[11:40] <capixaba> Lunar_Lamp: My life depends it....
[11:40] <mooey> thanks, laz0r, i will poke around the docs and menu.xml
[11:40] <riotkittie> lovloss: because you apt-get with root privs?
[11:41] <adaptr> krystek: you're asking this in Gnubuntu ?
[11:41] <mnoir> lovloss: 1.  that's who installed it. 2. that's the way they want it
[11:41] <lovloss> riotkittie: Oh, that makes sense
[11:41] <adaptr> #gnubuntu, sorry
[11:41] <lovloss> So its not like these files are critical, i can change their permissions and move them ?
[11:41] <Lunar_Lamp> Lol, ok. So you've installed ndiswrapper, and then you did "nidiswrapper -i WINDOWS-DRIVER.inf" and then you copied the other (bcmwl5.sys) file into /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5?
[11:42] <mnoir> lovloss: it is source - splain how it could be critical?
[11:42] <laz0r> mooey: maybe what you want is to use a very simple wm, disable the right click menu completly, and then use something like that mac-osx-bar look-a-like thing which name i forgot to just display a big firefox icon..
[11:42] <riotkittie> lovloss: i dont see what harm it could lead to :P
[11:42] <daveyarusso> I have an odd disk issue.  I had two partitions, deleted one (using GParted on an Ubuntu Live CD), and then grew the first into the space.  Now, I seem to have an 11 GB _partition_, but only a 5.4 GB filesystem (same as it had before on the first).  How do I fix it?
[11:42] <Sling> lunar_lamp wait wait u have ot copy a file somewhere?
[11:42] <lovloss> mnoir: Hehe, first thing that happened when i got into linux was I learned to be careful with anything that requires a login
[11:42] <mnoir> lovloss: good point :)
[11:42] <lovloss> ^_^
[11:43] <Lunar_Lamp> Sling, yes. The windows driver comes in two parts. The "inf" file is required for the install, but you also need the "sys" file in the folder.
[11:43] <hjmills> how can i make skype look pretty and gnometastic?
[11:43] <mnoir> lovloss: now make sure to change it's ownership before working on it
[11:43] <mooey> laz0r, i would quite like to avoid wasting screen space on panels and icons. if i cant bend xfce to do what i would like i will use fluxbox i think :-)
[11:43] <riotkittie> daveyarusso: are you sure its one partition?
[11:43] <capixaba> Lunar_Lamp: can u halpe me?
[11:43] <lovloss> mnoir: already done. thanks for the help. Trying to get into devving :)
[11:44] <daveyarusso> riotkittie: It shows up in partition editors as such.  I can give you console output if you'd like.
[11:44] <Sling> lunar_lamp the file is there when it installs it shows
[11:44] <Lunar_Lamp> ok - capixaba and Sling --> #bcm4318
[11:44] <wheels3572> jrib, When I do a ls -ld am I supposed to look at the drwx or the drwx ---- 794
[11:44] <juano_> where can i change my PC name?
[11:44] <laz0r> mooey: thats the point, what i am image would be just a black screen with one icon
[11:44] <mnoir> lovloss: have a blast
[11:44] <laz0r> mooey: what i'm thinking of
[11:44] <riotkittie> daveyarusso:  no need to. i believe you. but. wow. that's just. wow.
[11:44] <mnoir> lovloss: remenber that only the make install should be run sudo
[11:44] <jdhoreotg> hello, i updated my Nvidia drivers to the beta drivers and now X won't start, can anyone help me?
[11:44] <mooey> laz0r, basically, yep. gnome has toooo much to distract me from actually doing any work, heh.
[11:44] <juano_> where can i change my PC name?
[11:44] <jrib> wheels3572: the permissions and owner
[11:44] <lovloss> mnoir k:)
[11:45] <mag__> how can I give permisions in a file to two users ? chown user1 user2 * doesn't works !
[11:45] <Lunar_Lamp> capixaba, join #bcm4318 :-)
[11:45] <daveyarusso> riotkittie: I seem to remember running into something like this earlier (like, Hoaryish) where you had to separately grow the partition and fs, but thought that had been taken care of.
[11:45] <mnoir> mag__: learn about groups
[11:45] <peace-keeper> how can i change my ubuntu screen resolution to 1440x900 ? its not in the list...
[11:45] <wheels3572> jrib, permissions are all correct all the way to the username in question.  What's the owner?
[11:45] <mooey> juano_, System -> Administration -> Networking, there is a tab there that allows you to change your system hostname.
[11:45] <jrib> mag__: make a group
[11:45] <mnoir> mag__: there can only be one....   owner
[11:45] <erUSUL> !fixres | peace-keeper
[11:45] <jdhoreotg> NOTE: i don't want to use the beta drivers, i want to go back down to the drivers that come with Edgy
[11:45] <ubotu> peace-keeper: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:45] <jrib> wheels3572: the owner of the file
[11:45] <jdhoreotg> PLEASE HELP!
[11:46] <jrib> !caps | jdhoreotg
[11:46] <ubotu> jdhoreotg: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:46] <DeathFox> jm pm
[11:46] <jrib> wheels3572: did renaming work?
[11:46] <riotkittie> juano_: or you can edit /etc/hostname
[11:46] <un4get> mmm
[11:46] <sivik> jdhoreotg, whats your problem
[11:46] <kmishr> lol
[11:46] <mnoir> !nvidia
[11:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:46] <DeathFox> jmartini
[11:46] <LFO> !wine
[11:46] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:46] <laz0r> mooey: thats why i thought you might just wann use that macosx thing, cause it will run with every wm, won't display any panels, and have an optional hoover over effect that looks fancy
[11:46] <SpaceFrog> hey guys
[11:46] <theflyingfool> does anyone know how to get volume keys on a keyboard to affect the right volume property
[11:46] <jrib> jdhoreotg: remove the drivers you installed and install the ubuntu packages
[11:46] <juano_> mooey: General --> host name???
[11:46] <daveyarusso> riotkittie: Do you know if I could change the filesystem size via fdisk/cfdisk somehow?
[11:46] <aib> does anyone use vmware server? it asks you to build and install it as a super user, and then regular users can't use it because it has super user permissions
[11:46] <SpaceFrog> I'm trying to install mysql-query-browser, but I'm getting this error:  Depends: libglibmm-2.4-1c2a  but it is not installable
[11:46] <russfs> I (think I would) like to set up LVM on my ubuntu 6.06 desktop. Can anyone help me with this or point me in the right direction?
[11:47] <mooey> juano_, indeedy, thats the one you want
[11:47] <wheels3572> jrib, drwx------ 794 wheels wheels 20480 2007-01-06 09:52 /home/wheels/.gaim/logs/yahoo/wheels351972
[11:47] <DeathFox> how do i reset back to defaul x server config
[11:47] <riotkittie> daveyarusso: no, i have no clue. you said you used gparted?
[11:47] <juano_> mooey: thanks!
[11:47] <mooey> juano_, no problem
[11:47] <pianoboy3333> Can anyone help print to a HP LaserJet 1000 connected to a Windows XP machine on my house network? I'm on edgy/gnome.
[11:47] <mnoir> !fixres | DeathFox this should help
[11:47] <ubotu> DeathFox this should help: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:47] <daveyarusso> riotkittie: Before I had, yes.
[11:48] <nixternal> nevermind
[11:48] <DeathFox> i tried to install a driver on the ubuntu pc and i rebooted not it wont open the x server it says that it has errors
[11:48] <nixternal> thanks Seveas
[11:48] <SpaceFrog> can anyone help plz?
[11:48] <theflyingfool> whats a good size for the home partion
[11:48] <Seveas> nixternal, ?
[11:48] <mnoir> theflyingfool: what you gonna put innit?
[11:48] <Flannel> theflyingfool: your home partition will be where you put all your stuff
[11:49] <theflyingfool> i dont know i want to put ubuntu on my laptop
[11:49] <nixternal> he tried his dcc hack on me as well
[11:49] <sivik> theflyingfool, why wouldn't you
[11:49] <Flannel> theflyingfool: is it going to be the only OS on there?
[11:49] <riotkittie> did you use an installed ver or the gparted LIVE CD?
[11:49] <sivik> SpaceFrog, whats your problem
[11:49] <Seveas> nixternal, heh, it was an automated ban :)
[11:50] <theflyingfool> yeah it will be the only OS, and i wouldnt because i havnt finished sorting throught the files yet
[11:50] <SpaceFrog> I'm trying to install mysql-query-browser, but I'm getting this error:  Depends: libglibmm-2.4-1c2a  but it is not installable
[11:50] <nixternal> ya, im going to leave thsoe alone from now on
[11:50] <theking> jowi are you here?
[11:50] <Flannel> theflyingfool: give /home the rest of the space from your other partitions
[11:50] <adaptr> SpaceFrog: install how ?
[11:50] <SpaceFrog> via synaptic
[11:50] <mooey> laz0r, it seems enlightenment already has an osx like dock, http://www.enlightenment.org/Applications/Engage/ - perhaps i should try enlightenment before other window managers :-)
[11:51] <riotkittie> DeathFox: how did you install the driver - synaptic? apt? otherwise?
[11:51] <theflyingfool> flannel: i dont know what size the other ones should be either, its an 80gb hd
[11:51] <arrai> hello, is it possible to both redirect the output of a program to a file and print it to the parent terminal?
[11:51] <Seveas> arrai, with tee you can do that
[11:51] <riotkittie>  enlightenment's nice
[11:51] <arrai> Seveas, thanks, will have a look
[11:51] <riotkittie> i should get 17
[11:51] <mnoir> arrai: yes - man tee to learn more
[11:51] <wheels3572> Also while im hear.  I need to see what updates were last done on my pc under Ubuntu.  Where can I go for a list of updates that were done?
[11:52] <riotkittie> i seem to recall borking 16 somehow.
[11:52] <peace-keeper> linux is hell
[11:52] <riotkittie> wheels3572: >> how do you update? update manager? synaptic? apt?
[11:52] <tonyyarusso> riotkittie: It was a live cd
[11:52] <laz0r> mooey: that looks like what i thought about, but i think there exists a standalone dock app too... somewhere
[11:52] <riotkittie> tonyyarusso: *a* live cd or *the* live cd?
[11:53] <wheels3572> riotkittie, there is a little update icon up up on the panel that pops up when updates are available I just click that and put in my password
[11:53] <mooey> laz0r, there are a few i think. there was one called kiga or something, but i can't find it now.
[11:53] <bimberi> wheels3572: /var/log/dpkg.log will show you recent package activities
[11:53] <daveyarusso> riotkittie: The Ubuntu Dapper desktop CD
[11:53] <riotkittie> ok, wheels. go to the System menu > Administration and load Synaptic. there should be something there that will tell you
[11:53] <laz0r> mooey: but i guess enlightenment is a very good choice as wm if you want customizability and a nice look
[11:54] <riotkittie> brb
[11:54] <mooey> laz0r, enlightenment looks good. im going to go and poke xfce for abit. thank you for your advice :-)
[11:54] <the_burk> laz0r, it is good.. but e17 doesnt have that much eyecandy yet..
[11:54] <imbecile> ok guys i cant get nm-applet working.. what else is good for connecting to wpa connections?
[11:54] <mnoir> arrai: the manpage is junk - go here to learn how to use: http://www.computerhope.com/unix/utee.htm :)
[11:54] <impl> e17 has tons of eyecandy
[11:55] <belkin> 
[11:55] <impl> hell, it's /mostly/ eyecandy
[11:55] <tonyyarusso> imbecile: What's not working with it?
[11:55] <mooey> is the enlightenment thats packaged in edgy E16 or DR17?
[11:55] <theflyingfool> how do i change what volume control my volume keys on my keyboard affect
[11:55] <mnoir> mooey: synaptic would tell you
[11:55] <laz0r> the_burk: mmh, ok, its been a while since i used enlightenment... but i like the screens im looking at right now
[11:55] <tonyyarusso> belkin: What was that?
[11:56] <riotkittie> wheels3572: in Synaptic, click on File in the Menu, then open the History
[11:56] <mooey> !info enlightenment
[11:56] <ubotu> enlightenment: The Enlightenment Window Manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.16.7.2-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 380 kB, installed size 980 kB
[11:56] <mooey> E16, then.
[11:57] <riotkittie> daveyarusso: ah. i could not get Dapper's gparted to work for the life of me. When I added freespace to my Ubuntu partition, I did it with the Gparted Live CD
[11:57] <Tenris> Hi everybody
[11:57] <riotkittie> and had no problems
[11:57] <daveyarusso> riotkittie: I see.  That's probably wise, since the gparted version on that is way newer.
[11:57] <imbecile> tonyyarusso,  i cant view the seperate access points (except in networking but i cant connect) and i cant get keyring to initialize.. pretty much the whole thing isnt working
[11:57] <riotkittie> i'm trying to find a command that might work to grow a FS but i'm not seeing one
[11:58] <Soccrmastr> when I run the gksu "update-managaer -c -d" in the temrinal it says /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/apt/__init__.py:17 : FutureWarning: apt API not stable yet warnings.warn("apt API not stable yet," FutureWarning)
[11:58] <Soccrmastr> does that mena anythign isw rong?
[11:58] <jrib> Soccrmastr: nope, that's normal
[11:58] <Soccrmastr> thanks
[11:58] <Tenris> I've installed ubuntu with alternate iso, i've successful the installation, but when I reboot my computer, I took this error
[11:58] <Tenris> "Grub error 21"
[11:58] <capixaba> i needd wireles help
[11:58] <belkin> sorry lads
[11:58] <Soccrmastr> i think I got that first time I installed xubuntu on my laptop
[11:58] <Soccrmastr> I just re-installed and it worked
[11:59] <Soccrmastr> capixaba what kind?
[11:59] <riotkittie> brb
[11:59] <Jowi> Tenris, according to http://www.uruk.org/orig-grub/errors.html that means "Unknown boot failure". not much to go by.
[11:59] <StRaNgEDooR> jmartini its deathfox isp died
[11:59] <Tenris> . . .
[11:59] <peace-keeper> argh whats so hard nowadays to automatically detect my screen resolution
[12:00] <Tenris> Jowi> so there is nothing to do ?
[12:00] <DARKGuy> Hey ^^ does the "vesa" or "trident" driver support OpenGL/Glx stuff?
[12:00] <black_abaddon> i an sorry for spaming the chat before
[12:00] <Jowi> Tenris, I have *no* idea
[12:00] <Tenris> oki :-(
[12:00] <theflyingfool> does anyone know why nvidia-settings would have unresolvable dependencies?
[12:00] <DeathFox> how do u reset your xorg back to default
[12:00] <DeathFox> or rerun the setup
[12:00] <black_abaddon> are we cool?
[12:00] <erUSUL> DeathFox: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[12:00] <DARKGuy> DeathFox: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:00] <jrib> theflyingfool: problems with your apt setup
[12:00] <DARKGuy> xD
[12:00] <jewbilee> How do I find a program and run it if it doesnt show up in the applications menu
[12:00] <theflyingfool> jrib: any idea how i would fix it?
[12:00] <juano> im having trouble with dns, from windows to here i can go in through \\192.168... but not by name, from ubuntu i can go in win comp by name and everything ok
[12:01] <Silver_Seagull> Alright- I have a conundrum.  Knoppix LiveDVD 5.1.0 runs fine and smooth on my PC, however Ubuntu (the distro I want) won't start the xserver.  I've tried dpkg-reconfigure and setting all the correct values by hand, but no love.  Advice?
[12:01] <jrib> theflyingfool: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list as well as your errors
[12:01] <jrib> !pastebin | theflyingfool
[12:01] <ubotu> theflyingfool: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:01] <Soccrmastr> jewbilee: if you know the exact name try running it in the terminal
[12:01] <mnoir> jewbilee: at commandline, 'type cpmmand'
[12:01] <Jowi> Tenris, hmm. another page here http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/gnu/grub/html_chapter/grub_13.html which says that 21 is "selected disk does not exist". seems like this page is more up to date