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somerville32hehe12:27
Stonekeeperis that poor performance on linux or all oses?12:27
tim_not 100% sure, but i think all12:28
tim_sister has one.. seemed to notice hers was a bit shoddy when she brought her windows laptop round12:28
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Stonekeeperdoes anyone know if firefox uses it's own fonts for the menu or is it done by xfce?12:30
Stonekeepermy firefox menu is looking around 16px o.O12:30
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Stonekeepernn all and thanks for all the fish. er... tips.01:57
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SmoothOpwhoot02:00
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somerville32:)02:04
somerville32Hi SmoothOp :)02:04
SmoothOpsup02:04
somerville32n2m. Yourself?02:04
SmoothOpsame02:04
Flipithi guys.. i just installed xubuntu and it formatted my drive,, i think.. it said delete all.. anyway there was a document on windows that i really need back is there any way other than going to a data recovery place to get it back02:04
SmoothOptrying to install xubuntu on a 390x02:04
somerville32Flipit: Doh! You should have copied the file over before you erased everything.02:06
SmoothOpah it doesnt matter02:07
Flipityeah02:08
Flipiti know02:08
Flipitbut is there any way?02:08
SmoothOpyeah02:08
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SmoothOptake it to the fbi02:08
Flipit*prays02:08
SmoothOpwhat kind of document02:08
Flipita word doc02:08
Flipitmicrosoft word02:09
somerville32Flipit: Chances are it is gone for good :(02:09
SmoothOpflipit, was it a pirated word doc02:10
magic_ninjais there anywhere to download the activex controls for transgaming other than p2p way02:10
SmoothOpor did you actually type it02:10
magic_ninjasomerville32: i got a new cdrom drive :-)02:11
magic_ninjasomerville32: its just a creative 52x but the prob was my drive, never should have *fixed* it while intoxicated02:11
somerville32:)02:11
Flipitno02:11
Flipitit was written on the laptop.02:12
magic_ninjatraded some really old speakers for it02:12
somerville32Flipit: Do _really_ need it?02:12
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Flipityes02:13
Flipiti really really need it02:13
SmoothOpwhat was in the doc02:14
Flipitfor work02:14
SmoothOpoh02:14
somerville32Flipit: Why would you erase your hard drive and not backup important files that you know you need?02:14
magic_ninjasomerville32: because some people don't realize what they are doing02:15
Flipitexactly02:15
Flipitis there any way?02:15
magic_ninjasome people think they don't need to back up anything then realize they need it, and yes its possible to do it but very difficult and i've never had to so i can't help you02:16
Flipitok02:16
Flipitthanks anyway02:16
Flipitim taking it to a data recovery place02:16
Flipitdo you think they willl be able to help me?02:16
somerville32Flipit: Yes but turn off your computer right now.02:17
Flipitok02:17
magic_ninjaFlipit: hey02:17
Flipitits off02:17
Flipitim on a diff one right npw02:17
Flipitnow*02:17
magic_ninjaFlipit: i'll look around and see if i can't find something, i was reading about it a while back02:17
Flipitthanks so much02:17
magic_ninjaFlipit: what type of filesystem was on the hard drive02:20
Flipitwindows02:20
Flipitmillenium edition02:20
Flipitif thats a file system02:20
magic_ninjaok so fat3202:20
Flipiti guess02:20
magic_ninjathats the Operating System, its installed to a fat32 filesystem02:21
Flipitok02:21
magic_ninjaFlipit: the second question you have to ask yourself if you are willing to buy software to possibly do it for ya and if your willing to spend the time on it, due to the fact this can be a time consuming thing to do02:22
Flipityes02:23
Flipiti am02:23
magic_ninjaalright then02:24
Flipitwhat software would you recommend.. and if i do this would this be something that the data recovery place wouldnt be able to do02:24
magic_ninjawell you should be able to do it yourself, I found a very nice howto for it and it helped me recover a couple partitions on my hdd once, but i hadn't formatted over them...so i'm seeing what else I can dig up for you02:25
magic_ninjathe data recovery place can probably do it faster and easier, but if you want to save money you can do it yourself02:25
Flipitthats not an issue02:25
Flipitmoney isnt an issue02:25
Flipiti just need the file02:25
magic_ninjatake it to a data recovery place, or spend 50-100 dollars on software that does it for you...I found a nice link, let me paste it02:26
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Flipitbrb02:26
magic_ninjahttp://www.stellarinfo.com/disk-recovery.htm02:28
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Flipitok02:29
Flipitthanks alot02:29
Flipitfor all the help02:29
magic_ninjahttp://www.programurl.com/nucleus-fat-data-recovery.htm02:29
magic_ninjai think the second one looks better02:29
magic_ninjaif the fact that it was written over by ext3 (i belive the xubuntu installer uses ext3) then come back and i'll dig a little deeper02:30
Flipityeah02:30
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superkirbyartistAny ideas for lightweight sound recorder?02:32
magic_ninjaif time is an issue i reccomend trying out one of those software titles, it *should* do the trick02:32
Flipitok02:33
Flipitwilldo02:33
magic_ninjahow do i figure out what version of the nvidia drivers i use02:41
somerville32magic_ninja: Maybe glxinfo? Not sure.02:41
magic_ninjaman i've been having half-life 2 issues02:43
magic_ninjasomerville32: na that didn't do it man02:46
Flipithey ninja do you think the xubuntu instlaller writing over my files will be an issue.. because the sys recovery guy made it sound like it might be an issue over the phone.02:48
magic_ninjaFlipit: of course it might02:48
magic_ninjayour formatting over a fat32 filesystem with not another fat32 but an ext3, it becomes an issue then02:49
magic_ninjahowever, generally, without doing a low level format some data can be recovered02:49
Flipitalright02:49
SmoothOpis it a bad sign02:50
SmoothOpwhen the partitioner takes more than 15min02:50
SmoothOpto load02:50
somerville32lol02:54
somerville32Might be02:54
somerville32How much ram do you have?02:54
SmoothOp12802:55
SmoothOpmb02:55
SmoothOpthats what the sticker says02:55
SmoothOpthe laptop orginally came with 12802:55
SmoothOper02:55
SmoothOp6402:55
SmoothOpis that enough02:57
Flipiti thought if it was a live cd you needed at least 12802:58
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Flipiti could be wrong02:58
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chip1035hi gang03:29
maxamillionhello03:29
somerville32Hi :] 03:29
chip1035I have a question about wireless03:30
chip1035I just setup Xubuntu on my Dell 8500 Laptop03:30
chip1035Everything is in order except for my wireless.  I see it in the System - Administration - Networking and it's checkd, but it doesn't work, no valid IP or anything.  If I boot into Windows (dual boot), it works fine.03:31
maxamillion!wifidocs03:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wifidocs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:31
maxamillion!wifi03:31
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:31
chip1035thanks, i'll give it a try03:33
maxamillionokies03:33
somerville32!wifidocs is <alias> wifi03:34
ubotuI'll remember that, somerville3203:34
somerville32!wifidocs03:34
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:34
somerville32:)03:34
maxamillionchip1035: if the wireless card is detected, you might just need to install something like wifi-radar03:34
maxamillion!wifi-radar03:34
ubotuwifi-radar: graphical utility for managing Wi-Fi profiles. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.7-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 36 kB, installed size 208 kB03:34
chip1035Like Firestarter?03:36
chip1035I was reading something about Firestarter just now03:37
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maxamillionchip1035: no, firestarter is a gui frontend to iptables for configuring a firewall, wifi-radar is a graphical utility to manage wireless network "profiles" which are basically just connection settings for different wireless networks03:38
theHello, I have a post install question regarding Xubuntu...03:39
chip1035max, I just found it and installed it, wifi-radar...  I'm going to try it no03:40
chip1035now03:40
maxamillionchip1035: awesome03:40
maxamillion!ask | the03:40
ubotuthe: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:40
the:-p fine, here goes:03:40
theSo i used the alternate install cd to install xubuntu03:41
theeverythign went fine03:41
thenow, grub loads and I get the loading bar and it loads to 100%03:41
somerville32Yeah! :] 03:41
thethen when the GUI tries to load, I get nothing03:41
somerville32doh03:41
theyeah03:42
somerville32Hey, I had a dream yesterday that my nickname was "the" and I was having highlight nightmares because the word the is used so often.03:42
maxamillionthe: ctrl+alt+f1 ... that should give you a command line login screen ... try that and if it does, then we can go from there03:42
maxamillionsomerville32: that's an interesting thing to dream about03:42
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thectrl+alt+f1 givers nothing, I am running on a pretty thin system... PII 6GB, HDD, 256mb PC100, so I figured it was a long shot on this PC03:43
theIt's the worst of several PCs I have sitting around, perhaps I should just install on something than was made this decade?03:44
maxamillionthe: i've run linux on lesser hardware without any issue03:44
theThat's what I figured03:44
theperhaps I should doublecheck all my hardware, it was running Win95 before, but that was good for well, nothing03:45
maxamillionthe: yeah, xubuntu will be wonderfully refreshing ...03:46
thehmmmm, well it seems that I may have a faulty PS/2 connection in my mobo as only half the keyboard work...I am not sure how I missed this before, Maybe ill find a PS/2 to USB dongle sitting around someplace03:54
somerville32lol03:56
somerville32That would do it03:56
somerville32lol03:56
theWell, as the French say, "I surrender", for now... I'll try again in a few weeks after I get my next pc, nite all03:57
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maxamillionhiya vidd_laptop03:58
magic_ninjasomerville32: do you know how i can get my drivers updated to the .9 betas?03:58
somerville32magic_ninja, You could install from the nvidia website03:58
magic_ninjaalright, i didn't know if there was a bianary or not04:00
magic_ninjaright now its just a side idea, i'm trying to get this blasted hl2 to run...i can't eject the disk its busy...04:00
vidd_laptop*wave* maxamillion04:00
magic_ninjasomerville32: your a dev, is fiesty stable04:03
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somerville32magic_ninja, I'm running Feisty right now.04:03
magic_ninjathats cool04:04
magic_ninjayou think upgrading to fiesty would be worth it and safe?04:04
vidd_laptopsomerville32, where can i burn an iso?04:04
somerville32vidd_laptop: You don't need to.04:04
somerville32vidd_laptop: You can just change your sources.list and dist-upgrade04:05
vidd_laptopif i am going to do a clean install, i will04:05
somerville32vidd_laptop: Upgrading is NOT recommended.04:05
somerville32vidd_laptop: You can download a daily build04:05
somerville32But I don't have a link04:05
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chip1035.04:10
magic_ninjai might just upgrade to fiest and see how good it is04:13
magic_ninjai wanna build a new comp, but i don't have the cash so i was thinking about just a new mobo, proc, ram and case04:13
magic_ninjafor some reason this comp hardlocks when i put it at 1477 mhz so i loose 300 mhz of speed04:14
vidd_laptopmagic_ninja, mobo, pro, ram, case.....that IS a new comp!04:19
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magic_ninjavidd_laptop: lol yea pretty much, but i'll have to take the hdd, graphics and sound card out of my other comp04:20
vidd_laptopya just need a hdd (unless you live cd it) most mobo come with sound and display!04:21
magic_ninjavidd_laptop: not interested in onboard at all, its easier to switch cards and not have onboard04:22
magic_ninjaits nice to have a backup onboard audio but onboard video tends to have too many irq errors in my experience04:23
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vidd_laptopyou getting a linuxBIOS compatable card?04:23
CITguycan someone help me with my TV card, it doesn't seem to work04:23
vidd_laptopwhat issue you having?04:23
magic_ninjavidd_laptop: idk, i gotta wait until income tax time04:24
CITguyI have an NVIDIA GeForce FX5700 TV Tuner card with the NVIDIA driver installed, but I cannot get it to work with TV capture04:24
vidd_laptopwhat app you using?04:24
CITguyTVtime and all of the programs I've tried keep coming up with "Cannot open capture device /dev/video0"04:25
vidd_laptopyou check out their site?04:25
CITguyTVtime?04:25
vidd_laptopyes04:25
magic_ninjaCITguy: perhaps its permissions, try running it with sudo just to make sure04:26
vidd_laptopi seem to recall they cover that issue....04:26
CITguynope, sudo didn't help04:27
vidd_laptopits been a while since i used it04:27
CITguyIt almost seems like my card isn't being recognized04:28
CITguyis there a way to get the app to point to my vid card04:29
vidd_laptopone sec04:29
magic_ninjai just traded some old boston acoustic speakers for a 52x cdrom, full duplex NIC and a 56k modem lol04:30
magic_ninjacan you use full-duplex with a regluar inet connection04:30
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vidd_laptopCITguy, i googled your card, and im finding ALOT of bad press04:35
=== vidd_laptop thinks you are going to have alot of issues with it
vidd_laptophave you tried to use one of the drivers tvtime recomends?04:36
CITguyI just ran "v4l-info" and got:04:36
CITguy"open /dev/video0: No such file or directory"04:36
CITguyso apparently the tv capture isn't set up04:36
CITguyvidd: i would, but i don't know which one to use04:37
vidd_laptopwhat driver do ou have installed for it?04:37
vidd_laptophttp://tvtime.sourceforge.net/cards.html04:38
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CITguythe only driver that I know that is installed for my graphics card is the one I downloaded straight from NVIDIA.com04:38
vidd_laptopthat is the DISPLAY adapter04:38
CITguythe current bttv driver is installed with the kernel04:39
vidd_laptopyou need a tv card driver too04:39
CITguyoh, ok04:39
CITguyso how would I install that?04:39
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vidd_laptopyou should find bttv in synaptic04:40
vidd_laptopyou may need to enable universe and multi-verse04:41
vidd_laptopanyone know how to set it up so gxine auto loads and plays when a dvd is inserted?04:43
CITguyI'll be back I'm going to try installing the tv capture driver.04:43
magic_ninjahey vidd_laptop you know anything about wifi networks04:44
vidd_laptopa little04:44
magic_ninjasomeone in #ubuntu's having trouble with a wifi network config 802.11g 54mbps with linksys and they got me stumped, but i'm trying ot help the guy out because everyone ignored him04:45
vidd_laptopinvite him to #xubuntu-offtopic04:46
magic_ninjanm he just quit ohh well04:48
magic_ninjaohh well04:48
magic_ninjanow to help this guy recover his 120 gigs of music04:48
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magic_ninjahow you temporarily disable magicdev05:32
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atarinoxhi, can somebody help me with a problem. i've noticed that my wireless internet connection has gotten much slower on my xubuntu 6.10 laptop compared to my windows xp laptop. i've disabled ipv6 in firefox but it's still slow. any other ideas why it would suddenly be so slow?06:47
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atarinox hi, can somebody help me with a problem. i've noticed that my06:48
atarinox                  wireless internet connection has gotten much slower on my06:48
atarinox                  xubuntu 6.10 laptop compared to my windows xp laptop. i've06:48
atarinox                  disabled ipv6 in firefox but it's still slow. any other ideas06:48
atarinox                  why it would suddenly be so slow?06:48
atarinoxwoops, sorry06:48
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maxamillion!wifi06:51
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:51
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atarinoxis there a way to downgrade a distro, if i wanted to revert back to dapper?07:00
somerville32Umm...07:00
maxamillionyes, i have heard of such wizardry but i don't recommend it ever ...07:01
atarinoxah alright07:06
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Shaezscheis there a trick to getting wpa working with wifi radar??07:54
Shaezschei cant get an ip address07:54
somerville32Have you referred to the wifi docs?07:56
Shaezschei can get network manager to work07:57
Shaezschewhat wifi docs07:57
Shaezschealso, is there a xfce music player that has a browsing feature similiar to amarok?07:58
Shaezschei.e. shows my library07:58
somerville32Shaezsche, You can use any player you like :] 08:03
somerville32There was a discussion on the mailing list a few weeks ago08:03
Shaezscheyea but amarok takes 30 seconds to load in xfce08:03
somerville32And it listed a few good ones08:03
Shaezscheit listed?08:03
somerville32http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/08:03
Shaezschewhat do i put in the wpa driver box with wifi radar if im using intel 291508:04
somerville32!wifi | Shaezsche08:07
ubotuShaezsche: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:07
Shaezschehow can i monitor my clock freq and temps in xubuntu?08:11
Shaezschewith ubuntu i could just add it to the panel08:11
somerville32There is an applet08:11
somerville32:)08:11
Shaezscheyea but where?08:11
Shaezschenot in xubuntu08:11
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kaulichI just installes xubuntu, but my WLAN Dlink DWL 520+ was not found after an alternate install, using the live cd it worked quite good, but there the installation died, what can I do to get the card enabled? The bad thing, in the moment I have nir internet access from this computer, the WLAN is the only way out.11:50
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TaramI have skype problems...ich can hear but I can't speak12:39
Tarammodprobe snd-pcm-oss yield:  /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 27: ignoring bad line starting with 'rt61pci'12:40
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Commander-Crowehi05:44
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scotta316Hi all. Anyone know why some of my panel applets would have disappeared?05:59
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scotta316Anybody awake in here?06:14
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scotta316I'm having a bit of trouble with oom-killer events, and panel applets disappearing.06:23
scotta316Apparently my computer was awake all night dealing with oom-killer.06:23
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Shaezschewhere does xubuntu hide the wpa_supplicant.conf file?07:13
matsisnt the file in /etc/ ?07:15
Shaezscheno07:16
Shaezschein most distros it is....07:16
matsShaezsche: sudo updatedb; locate wpa_supplicat07:16
matshm.. strange07:17
Shaezschemats how can i change powernowd's default governor profiles?07:17
matsno idea07:18
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Shaezschewhich would give me better battery life, fluxbox or xcfe?07:19
matsboth of them are small and take few ressorces07:22
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yotuxHow can I add a user to have access to the scanner in xubuntu07:39
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somerville32IF yotux comes back07:50
somerville32You launch Applications > System > Users and Groups07:50
somerville32Click on the user, click properties07:50
somerville32Then click on the permissions tab07:50
somerville32and check off "Use scanners"07:50
somerville32then click ok07:50
somerville32:)07:51
Commander-Croweany recommended torrent programms?07:51
somerville32!find torrent07:53
ubotuFound: bittorrent, ktorrent, bittorrent-gui, libtorrent7, libtorrent7-dev (and 3 others)07:53
magic_ninjais there a prog that will make an exact copy iso of a cd (like clonecd)08:05
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PuMpErNiCkLemagic_ninja: dd08:52
magic_ninjaty08:53
magic_ninjai was actually wondering about making an ISO of a copy-protected disk to install from like you can do with daemon tool's in windows08:53
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yotuxI have just installed xubuntu and it seems that users don;t have usb access rights09:54
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somerville32yotux: How did you add the users?09:59
yotuxit was the stock setup09:59
yotuxThe reason that i am pointing to usb is because I can not use my scanner either09:59
yotuxif i go sudo xsane then I can have scanner access.10:00
yotuxi have run lsusb and my devices appear10:00
yotuxWhen attempting to add a printer it doesn't even show my lazer printer :(10:01
yotuxI only have 1 user on my system.10:01
somerville32launch Applications > System > Users and Groups10:01
somerville32Click on the user, click properties10:02
somerville32Then click on the permissions tab10:02
yotuxscanner is checked.  i don't see a usb option10:03
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yotuxok i have fixed the printer10:08
yotuxscanner seems to be working after you help somerville3210:09
somerville32Awesome! :)10:10
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yotuxStrange thought.  All I did was uncheck the box and then recheck the box10:12
yotuxanother thing that has been happening.  Xfce is losing control over the desktop10:13
yotuxI have installed the nvidia drivers that may be a cause?10:14
hyper_chyotux: how do you mean? Xfce losing control?10:14
yotuxAll of my icons on my desktop go away10:14
hyper_chmight be a bug10:14
yotuxTo fix it I have to goto Applications > Setting > Desktop Setting and re check allow xfce to manage the desktop10:15
grazieyotux: yes I have the same problem. I think it's a xfce bug.10:19
yotuxok10:19
grazieyotux: Is your system font size OK?10:19
yotuxAppears to be ok10:19
yotuxI have used Gnome and Kde in the past10:20
grazieyotux: I had a problem after installing nvidia driver10:20
yotuxxfce is a little different.10:20
yotuxWhen i go into CLI non x terminal the fonts have changed10:21
yotuxnon x CLI = alt ctrl F110:22
grazieyotux: is that a question or statement?10:22
yotuxstatement sorry10:23
yotuxSystem font is ??? for me.  Sorry I have played with linux for a few years but have fallen into the GUI trap.  i am now trying to learn how to use the CLI more10:24
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Shaezschewill xcfe give better battery life than gnome and kde?10:25
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somerville32Shaezsche, Hard to measure10:26
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daohodachello, I am installing a xubuntu on a dell old laptop. The install is OK. But I boot, I reach the splash screen and the login page. 2 secs later, the laptop goes standby.10:53
daohodacIf I boot to console mode and root# startx, it is OK.10:53
daohodacany idea?10:53
somerville32Weird10:54
somerville32I heard a bug about this10:54
somerville32You need to disable acpi, I think10:55
daohodacisn't it...10:55
daohodachow?10:55
somerville32hmm?10:55
somerville32Ok10:55
somerville32!acpi10:55
ubotuacpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)10:55
somerville32hmm... not what I want10:55
somerville32One sec10:55
somerville32I'll get the doc for you :)10:55
daohodacgreat..10:56
somerville32!bootoptions | daohodac10:56
ubotudaohodac: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions10:56
daohodacnewby question; what is !bootoptions | daohodac?10:57
ormiretan instruction to ubotu to tell you about boot options10:58
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daohodacthanks! you are saying that i append noacpi to the default  boot: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-k7 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash  ?10:59
somerville32Yup! :)10:59
somerville32Reboot and tell me if it works10:59
somerville32If you find you can't boot10:59
somerville32(ie. you typoed)10:59
somerville32You can edit it from grub10:59
somerville32I think you just type the letter e11:00
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daohodaci m back11:14
daohodacnoacpi , no effect for me11:14
somerville32Hmm11:16
daohodachowever, to edit the grub menu, i followed the instructions. but when i re reboot, the grub line does not contains noacpi... is it normal?11:16
somerville32No11:16
daohodaci do:11:16
daohodacwhen grub => esc11:16
daohodacgo on the line11:17
daohodace11:17
daohodacafter quiet => o11:17
daohodacnoacpi11:17
daohodacenter11:17
daohodacesc11:17
daohodacb to boot11:17
daohodacno save needed?11:17
somerville32That won't save it11:18
daohodacthe noacpi has to be appended to the boot sequence or in the "kernel line"?11:18
somerville32When you edit it at the boot screen, it only applies to that boot11:18
daohodacI tried the vi qw too11:18
daohodacyes, that is what i red.11:19
somerville32IIRC, there are several different variations to try too11:19
daohodacso, the noacpi is not the solution...11:19
daohodacIIRC? what is it?11:19
somerville32If I Remember Correctly11:20
daohodacI'll try it after a night of reflexion, perhaps.11:21
daohodacanother question, i am root and i do startx. It is not a good way to work.11:22
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somerville32I agree.11:22
somerville32How can you login in as root anyhow?11:22
daohodacif I su - me and startx, i am not authorized. how to?11:23
daohodacwhen I boot in text mode, I am root by default11:23
daohodacwhen I am in xfce as root, I can't setup my system. it says: "the configuration could not be loaded, you are not allowed to access the system configuration. weird...11:25
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kalikianaIs there a Scite user in here? I wonder if I could have a vertical line to see where 80 characters are.11:50
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