[01:18] <yhan_> hi
[01:19] <yhan_> I'm trying to setup sound in my ltsp ubuntu, but sound is playing on the server
[01:19] <yhan_> what's wrong ?
[01:19] <yhan_> I have set sound_daemon = esd, and sound = true in lts.conf
[01:19] <yhan_> what could be wrong ?
[01:19] <yhan_> I'm running breezy
[01:21] <LaserJock> hmm
[01:22] <LaserJock> I wonder if Breezy's LTSP supported sound
[01:23] <yhan_> I don't have found nothing in the doc
[01:23] <yhan_> that's why I'm asking here
[01:32] <yhan_> not supported, thanks anyway
[01:33] <ogra> there was a doc ... but willvdl recently deleted it ...
[01:33] <LaserJock> heh
[01:34] <ogra> well, it was always causing confusion ...
[01:35] <ogra> even writing "THIS DOC IS FOR BREEZY ONLY!!"  in bold 12pt letters at the top didnt help ....
[01:35] <ogra> so people often got confused ... and ltsp now had the docs included ....
[01:36] <ogra> oh how i hate library packaging ...
[02:59] <bddebian> Heya
[08:06] <RichEd> hey Kamping_Kaiser
[08:06] <RichEd> happy new year
[08:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> hallo RichEd , happy new year to you too :)
[08:38] <RichEd> hi juliux ... greetings for 2007
[08:38] <juliux> hi RichEd happy new year;)
[08:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> RichEd, so... will you be at LCA?
[08:40] <RichEd> Kamping_Kaiser: if my visa comes through ... then yes ... holding thumbs
[08:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> eek. good luck!
[08:41] <juliux> cu later
[09:00] <edgy> Hi, I had a presentation and I want the points on my slide to drop in one by one on click, how can I do this please in ooo?
[09:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> i sugetst an openoffice channel edgy
[09:08] <edgy> Kamping_Kaiser: thanks for the tip but I already asked there and there seems to be no one awake now :(
[09:13] <edgy> Kamping_Kaiser: what do you use for presenations? koffice?
[09:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> edgy, i do eitehr; a set of html pages linked up, or a set of text files ;)
[09:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> only oo.o if i /absolutely must/
[09:14] <edgy> Kamping_Kaiser: then your audience don't care a lot about effects. you are lucky ;)
[09:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> edgy, hehe. i have that luck, yes :)
[09:16] <edgy> Kamping_Kaiser: afk stands for what?
[09:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> away from keyboard
[09:16] <highvoltage> edubuntugirl: afk is away from keyboard
[09:16] <edubuntugirl> highvoltage: okay
[09:18] <RichEd> hi highvoltage
[09:21] <highvoltage> hi RichEd!
[09:21] <RichEd> how's 2007 treating you ?
[09:22] <highvoltage> maybe a bit early to tell, but so far so good :)
[09:25] <highvoltage> not a very nice message to get on an edubuntu server: http://www.flickr.com/photos/simonanibal/320746793/
[09:25] <edgy> Kamping_Kaiser: ;)
[09:27] <RichEd> brb -> reboot
[11:39] <RichEd> hi ogra ... cbx ...
[11:39] <ogra> heya
[11:45] <cbx33> hey RichEd hey ogra
[11:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[11:46] <RichEd> cbx33: all on track for BETT ? any loose ends ?
[11:49] <cbx33> no I think we're there
[01:12] <Feral_Kid> Anyone around... I am interested in seeing where the PTB are in incorporating applications from SEUL with edbuntu deployments...
[01:18] <RichEd> Feral_Kid: I can't answer you direclty, but can you pop me a mail, and I will send to the developer list ?
[01:21] <Feral_Kid> RichEd> Thanks... I used to use software from SEUL back when I was deploying K12LTSP systems in Los Angeles... I think there needs to be incorporation of some of the application available to the edubuntu arena...
[01:22] <RichEd> Feral_Kid: great send me details in the email (did you get the /msg) ... what you used it for, how you got hold of it (bundled with K12LTSP or download), and how useful it was to you. The more info we have, the more chance of pushing it faster & further
[01:23] <jsgotangco> :P
[01:23] <Feral_Kid> RichEd> I am sending right now...
[01:24] <RichEd> :)
[01:33] <Feral_Kid> RichEd> I am still working on the e-mail... I tend to be slightly verbose at time!!! :)
[01:35] <RichEd> Feral_Kid: that is entirely okay and there is no problem at all in this regard whatsover in any possible regard to the issue discussed and the depth or degree of answer and / or supporting information or details.
[01:36] <RichEd> alternative answer: np
[01:36] <RichEd> :)
[01:38] <highvoltage> !seen burgandavia
[01:38] <ubotu> I haven't seen burgandavia recently
[01:38] <Feral_Kid> RichEd> You aren't located in Canada, are you?
[01:39] <RichEd> Feral_Kid: Cape Town, South Africa
[01:40] <Feral_Kid> Ah, no wonder you are so are alert... :) I am in the Los Angeles area, but was doing some early morning brainstorming...
[01:42] <RichEd> Feral_Kid: the K12LTSP / Edubuntu relationship is good, and we strive to present a similar experience & feature set ... so your comments on your topic and in this area will be appreciated
[01:43] <RichEd> (Eric Harrison was at our last developer conference, and gave great input) and ogra and he swap & share.
[01:48] <Feral_Kid> RichEd> Ok, mail should be there in a few seconds... All replies are welcomed...
[02:00] <RichEd> Feral_Kid: great email ... we're on the same page as you
[02:01] <RichEd> our next version (April) addresses a number of the issues you mention, and the secondary / high school / university config & application is a top target.
[02:02] <Feral_Kid> RichEd> Well, I truly believe that if applications taken from SEUL are converted to packages and placed in a repository that will make the battle a lot easier...
[02:03] <juliux> hi RichEd
[02:03] <Feral_Kid> RichEd> Are you familiar with SEUL?
[02:03] <juliux> RichEd, sorry i had to go to university
[02:05] <RichEd> hey juliux : np ... busy busy busy myself
[02:05] <juliux> RichEd, ok
[02:05] <RichEd> Feral_Kid: also, we are looking at a process / guidelines to make information available about supporting and supported applications ... in categories as follows:
[02:06] <RichEd> [ bundled ]  <- [ repository]  <- [ supported ]  <- [ recommended ]  <- [ reviewed ]  <- [ aware of ] 
[02:07] <RichEd> So we will welcome any suggestion to put into the pipe line (from right side) and then there will be approval / review criteria to be met to move upstream (to the left)
[02:10] <RichEd> Feral_Kid: I have to confess that all I know about Seul is that is was a venue for one of the olympics.
[02:11] <RichEd> I'll load the link and look around. If I put it in the "pipe-line" perhaps you would be able to do a review for us ( a few paragraphs explaining what it is, how it works, what sort of system spec / impact it has or needs )
[02:13] <Feral_Kid> RichEd> I was looking at some of the applications... As things go, I see that there as been a significant drop in on-going support of application, but I am happy that is still exists...
[02:14] <RichEd> Feral_Kid: I loaded the site, and I see that it looks like a catalogue, and not a single application. So ignore any cvomments above that clash with that view.
[02:15] <RichEd> w.r.t. ^^ do you mean Edubuntu support or SEUL support ?
[02:15] <Feral_Kid> No, I was talking about SEUL site...
[02:15] <RichEd> great ... phew ...
[02:16] <Feral_Kid> I was just looking at some of the applications and the last time they were updated...
[02:16] <Feral_Kid> RichEd> Nevertheless, you will see that there are some great applications that exist on that site...
[02:17] <RichEd> Feral_Kid: my view is that we need to build a user support community where the people using the applications can offer peer-to-peer support (user support) down to a teacher level.
[02:18] <RichEd> If we can show the developer community behind the applications that (ed)ubuntu recommend their applications, and provide a support forum for our users, then it should provide more reason for them to stay up to date, and make any adjustments we feel are needed for stability / security.
[02:19] <RichEd> The first few applications we are gong to chuck into the pipeline are:
[02:19] <RichEd> * Moodle
[02:19] <RichEd> * LAMs
[02:19] <RichEd> * SchoolTool
[02:20] <RichEd> So if an application stalls in the pipeline I showed above, then we'll let the developers know what and why it hit a blockage, and ask if we can all work to get it past the hurdles.
[02:20] <Feral_Kid> RichEd> I was just reading that UCLA is going to  Moodle for their courseware...
[02:20] <Feral_Kid> Going to use Moodle I meant...
[02:20] <RichEd> Yep. We are going to use Moodle as a base for an Edulinux project.
[02:22] <RichEd> The MOTU guys have some Security concerns preventing us from giving it our full blessing, so this will be a test case to see if these sorts of issues can be resolved by cooperation.
[02:25] <Feral_Kid> RichEd> Well, this all came about because I gave my 14 year old daughter a machine... I started with Ubuntu Edgy, and then did a switch over to EdU.... But I found myself working hard to make it functional for her... There is only some many times I can get a 14 year old to look at TuxMath and TuxType... So that started me trying to add some useful apps for her to use...
[02:31] <RichEd> That is a mirror of our experience & feedback ... historically the prioject had to start somewhere, and that initial target was:
[02:31] <RichEd> LTSP Server & Workstation Desktop for Junior School Classroom.
[02:33] <RichEd> Now we're expanding to other levels of schools, and also to present the view that you can have Edubuntu on the Desktop and Ubuntu in the National Server Farm ... one o/s ... one community ... one knowledge & support base ... different user flavours.
[02:34] <RichEd> So we are looking for people who have sourced and tried applications on their own, and found them useful and productive with a low hassle factor, and we then want to add them into the pipeline above.
[02:35] <RichEd> The next version (Feisty in Arpil) will have one install CD and then a downloadable .iso Add-On CD which will allow for a broader installation choice.
[02:35] <Feral_Kid> RichEd> Yes, that is a good move right there...
[02:37] <RichEd> Also, dynamic menus that check the user's group status, and load an apropriate menu according to the class level. i.e. a 8 year old kid and a 18 year old kid will get different menus when loging on to the same machine.
[02:39] <Feral_Kid> RichEd> But the goes back to the need to have applications for the 18 old, that is still academic driven...
[02:46] <Feral_Kid> RichEd> And I think that there is a good number of application available from SEUL... Just requires them being build and packaged...
[02:47] <Feral_Kid> RichEd> I might be a good idea to get a person or two to wander through SEUL and see what applications are useful...
[02:48] <RichEd> Yep. That's the whole pipeline theory. If the application is good (technically) and well adopted (good user base) we can focus some resources onto it. We've got techies who are desperate for input from educators as to where to focus.
[02:48] <cbx33> Damn - "I Just Lost The Game"
[02:49] <cbx33> RichEd do you know what "The Game" is?
[02:50] <RichEd> that hunt the photo person stalking thing ?
[02:51] <cbx33> losethegame.com
[02:51] <cbx33> congrats - you are now playing "The Game" ;)
[02:54] <cbx33> I hate my friend Andy for telling me about the game....
[02:54] <cbx33> i keep losing
[02:56] <ThomasWaldmann> moin
[02:56] <ThomasWaldmann> cbx33: may i query you on some edubuntu wiki stuff?
[02:58] <cbx33> sure
[03:01] <juliux> cbx33, did you know if it possible to use a SUN as edubuntu server?
[03:02] <cbx33> hmmm
[03:02] <cbx33> I'm not sure
[03:03] <juliux> ogra, ?
[03:03] <ogra> juliux, an opteron sun will work right away ... on sparc its untested
[03:04] <juliux> ogra, thxs
[03:04] <juliux> ogra, happy new year btw
[03:04] <ogra> i'd appreciate test feedback and bugreports for sparc though
[03:05] <ogra> juliux, thanks, same to you :)
[03:05] <cbx33> ;)
[03:06] <juliux> ogra, perhaps i will test it after my examens
[03:06] <ogra> you got a sparc ?
[03:06] <juliux> ogra, 20 sparcs;)
[03:07] <juliux> ogra, a frend of my has a lot of sparcs
[03:07] <cbx33> cool
[03:07] <juliux> and other speical hardware;)
[03:07] <ogra> nice
[03:07] <juliux> like an alpha computer
[03:07] <ogra> i knoiw some debian people try to get ltsp on sparc running, but havent got any feedback yet
[03:07] <ogra> oooh, i love aplhas
[03:07] <ogra> *alphas too :)
[03:08] <cbx33> hey ogra howz it going
[03:08] <cbx33> I apologise in advance I may miss tomorrows meeting
[03:08] <cberlo> Hi folks.  Got a (hopefully) quick question:  what's an easy way to create large numbers of users at once?
[03:08] <cbx33> as I'll be at BETT all day
[03:08] <juliux> ogra, i think he as 30-40 computers in his 10qm room, but only 3 computers are  running at the moment;)
[03:08] <cbx33> wow
[03:08] <cbx33> I used to have 9-10 when I was about 17
[03:09] <cbx33> the college used to throw them out so I used to take them home
[03:09] <juliux> most of them are from the university, they give it for less money away if they didn't need them longer
[03:10] <cberlo> cberlo: Around here, older computers can be had for free, if you know where to ask.  Computers for Schools.
[03:10] <cberlo> Doh -- didn't mean to preface that to myself....  :)
[03:11] <juliux> cberlo, if your usernames are user1, user2, user,3 you can do that via a shell skript;)
[03:11] <cberlo> juliux: I have a list of names (John Smith, Jane Doe, Adbul Mehta-Jones, etc.) that needs to be formatted first, then make into usernames and accounts will passwords....
[03:12] <cberlo> make/made, will/with
[03:12] <cberlo> Just can't communicate today!
[03:12] <juliux> cberlo, sounds like a job for python,bash,perl or wathever;)
[03:13] <cberlo> juliux: I have a bit working with a bash script and some awk, but I'm getting stuck on processing the names.  I go through the list, and it keeps separating the first and last names (for username in $( cat usernames.txt ); do echo $username; done).  Roughly, that's the code I've got -- some awk processing and whatnot in there, too.
[03:14] <cberlo> I know what parameters I want to send to useradd; I know I can use chpasswd to set the passwords afterwards.  I'm just stuck at getting "John" and "Smith" together in one item for processing.
[03:15] <cberlo> Where do I paste here?  I forgot.  I can put all of the code I have so far, if anyone wants to have a look...
[03:15] <cberlo> !paste
[03:15] <ubotu> paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[03:15] <juliux> cberlo, is there no charakter in your list that shows here is the end of a nem?
[03:15] <cberlo> \n is about it
[03:16] <juliux> so you have every name in one line
[03:16] <cberlo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/943/
[03:16] <cberlo> Yep.  One name per line.
[03:17] <cberlo> the newIDs part is basically to find what IDs to give each new user (I was planning to use newusers command initially, so I needed that).
[03:20] <cberlo> The list comes from a couple of administrators, and sometimes contains invalid characters, so I used sed to delete them.  I've also figured out a basic routine to reformat each name pair into our account naming standard.  Only catch now is to get FirstName and LastName to process together.
[03:22] <cberlo> And a minor thing (although definitely an annoyance) not related to this question:  when I'm using vi, when do the arrow keys no longer work in Edgy?  I get C, D, B, etc. when I try to move around in my file while in insert mode...
[03:23] <ogra> use vim, not vi
[03:23] <ogra> or install the full vim instead of the vim-tiny package we ship due to space constraints
[03:23] <cbx33> vi seems to work ok here
[03:24] <ogra> not on fresh installs
[03:24] <cbx33> ahhh ok
[03:24] <cberlo> ogra: Okay, so if I install the full vim, everything should be good?
[03:24] <ogra> if you use vim-tiny the vi command will behave like a native vi and not accept arrow keys
[03:24] <ogra> if you start it with the vim command it switches to the vim mode
[03:24] <cberlo> Sounds reasonable.  Thanks.
[03:25] <ogra> it gained us 8MB we needed in edgy ... sorry for the annoyance, even i triggeren that change for ubuntu i'm not happy with it ...
[03:25] <ogra> *triggered
[03:26] <cberlo> ogra: So am I to understand that you guys don't have a mass user creation utility for Edubuntu yet?
[03:26] <ogra> nope
[03:26] <cbx33> it is planned isn't it ogra ?
[03:26] <ogra> but there are tons of scripts
[03:26] <ogra> not for feisty yet ... but we'll have them eventually
[03:26] <cberlo> orgra:  Okay, when I'm done, who do I submit the script to, or where can I get a script that already works so I don't reinvent the wheel?
[03:26] <ogra> google ?
[03:27] <cberlo> ogra: Okay, but that mostly gets me newusers, and I don't want to use that utility.
[03:27] <ogra> http://www.google.de/search?q=linux+mass+user+creation+script&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=com.ubuntu:de:official&client=firefox-a
[03:27] <cberlo> I want to start with a list of names (as mentioned) and wind up with unique accounts.
[03:27] <ogra> ;)
[03:28] <cberlo> Okay, i'll do more reading.  It's all in how you word it!  :)
[03:29] <cbx33> indeed it is
[03:30] <ogra> put your users in a file ...
[03:30] <ogra> #!/bin/sh
[03:30] <ogra> users=`cat userlist`
[03:30] <ogra> for user in $users; do
[03:30] <ogra> adduser $user
[03:30] <ogra> done
[03:30] <ogra> ...
[03:30] <ogra> the simplest one you can do ...
[03:31] <ogra> (indeed for GECOS data you need a bit of awk and split lines etc ...)
[03:32] <cberlo> Okay, that's similar to what I've done already.  I'm getting the first and last name separated, though.
[03:35] <bddebian> Heya
[03:38] <cberlo> So no quick solution for the FName, LName problem?
[05:47] <TeePOG> good day
[05:48] <TeePOG> where would be a good place to ask / suggest a new education project? I have an aquaintance who has a couple good ideas, but no programming / web dev knowledge... he's looking for some ppl who can do non-profit dev work (probably LAMP) in their spare time
[05:49] <ogra> TeePOG, probably the edubuntu-devel mailing list
[05:49] <TeePOG> cool ogra, thx
[05:49] <TeePOG> how have you been btw?
[05:49] <ogra> fine thanks
[05:49] <ogra> just preparing the next milestone CD ... (herd2)
[05:50] <TeePOG> indeed... still April?
[05:50] <ogra> yep
[05:50] <TeePOG> you guys on track?
[05:50] <ogra> as usual
[05:50] <ogra> indeed :)
[05:50] <TeePOG> lekker
[05:50] <TeePOG> looking forward to checking it out
[05:50] <ogra> :)
[05:51] <TeePOG> but ogra, this project is by its very nature non-distro specific... even platform-independent. which is why i'm thinking LAMP
[05:51] <TeePOG> will TSF still help?
[05:53] <TeePOG> in your opinion of course
[05:55] <TeePOG> hi again
[05:55] <TeePOG> ogra: can you paste what you got from me last?
[06:03] <cberlo> Hi folks.  Came up with a pretty good solution for my mass user creation (thanks for the leads earlier).  Anyone interested can see the script at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/962/
[06:03] <cberlo> Basically, takes users as Firstname Lastname pairs (one per line) and makes users out of them.  Does basic checking for duplicates and makes unique accounts out of duplicate entries.
[06:04] <cberlo> Now, anyone want to tear it apart and make it better?  :)
[06:14] <Laser_away> It sure seems like I'm in the wrong time zone for Edubuntu
[06:15] <LaserJock> all the fun stuff happens while I'm gone I think
[06:15] <ogra> just change your sleep schedule ;)
[06:16] <ogra> TeePOG, "<TeePOG> in your opinion of course" was the last i got
[06:16] <LaserJock> ogra: well, I try, but my wife doesn't like it when I'm in bed typing on the laptop at 3:00am ;-)
[06:16] <TeePOG> yah, that's what i have as well
[06:16] <TeePOG> we have a wonky adsl line here
[06:17] <ogra> LaserJock, just shift her as well :)
[06:20] <LaserJock> ogra: haha ;-)
[06:21] <ogra> LaserJock, seen that ? http://google-code-updates.blogspot.com/2007/01/google-and-imara-project.html
[06:23] <LaserJock> ogra: no I hadn't, amazing
[06:24] <ogra> LaserJock, wuld you mind to put http://packages.debian.org/experimental/misc/marble on your todo for a sync to universe ?
[06:24] <LaserJock> ogra: np
[06:24] <ogra> thanks :)
[06:25] <LaserJock> ogra: I think once we can include Java apps by default we'll really be able to do a lot more
[06:25] <ogra> yeah
[06:25] <LaserJock> there's some really good stuff out there
[06:25] <LaserJock> I see it all the time in the sciences
[06:25] <ogra> feisty+1 will rock :)
[06:25] <LaserJock> :-)
[06:25] <ogra> java should be on the CD by then
[06:25] <LaserJock> yeah, I hope so
[06:26] <LaserJock> ogra: why do we need marble?
[06:26] <ogra> we dont need it ...
[06:26] <ogra> but its there and makes a good impression
[06:26] <ogra> so we should have it available
[06:27] <LaserJock> Universe?
[06:27] <ogra> for now, yes
[06:27] <LaserJock> k
[06:27] <ogra> if there is demand for main or we hav plenty space on the second CD then we can include it as well
[06:52] <LaserJock> ogra: well, marble seems to build and install fine. I'll have to wait for a bit to test it out though
[06:53] <ogra> afai "white" in -motu already tested it ... he pinged me a week or so ago
[06:53] <LaserJock> k
[06:54] <ogra> but he didnt answer my pings since ....
[07:12] <LaserJock> !seen RichEd
[07:12] <ubotu> I last saw RichEd (n=richard@dsl-241-111-169.telkomadsl.co.za) 1h 50m 32s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection
[07:13] <LaserJock> darn
[07:15] <LaserJock> ogra: do you know of any good educational software directory sites?
[07:17] <ogra> http://richtech.ca/seul/ ?
[07:17] <ogra> (thats a schoolforge mirror iirc, you can look ar schoolforge.org as well )
[07:18] <LaserJock> ah, that's pretty good
[07:20] <LaserJock> since there isn't  education section in the repo it makes it a bit more difficult to spot edu packages
[07:20] <LaserJock> we don't have a page like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuScientists yet do we?
[07:22] <ogra> nope
[07:22] <ogra> but we probably shoudl
[08:36] <LaserJock> ogra: bug #78601
[08:38] <ogra> yay, thanks
[08:38] <LaserJock> np
[08:38] <LaserJock> that's really a pretty cool app for as small as it is
[08:38] <ogra> yep
[08:39] <LaserJock> great for geography at least
[08:40] <LaserJock> brb, mac has to install updates :/
[08:45] <LaserJock> re
[08:50] <caris_mere> Good evening
[08:51] <AnRkey> i need help with my dhcp on an ubuntu box running ltsp. here is my info http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/976/
[08:52] <AnRkey> can any1 help?
[08:56] <AnRkey> any1?
[08:57] <LaserJock> so dhcp isn't working?
[08:57] <LaserJock> I assume :-)
[08:58] <ogra> you need to call the initscript
[08:58] <ogra> dhcpd3 restart wont work ;)
[08:58] <LaserJock> ogra: that's seems kinda buggy
[08:58] <ogra> LaserJock, ?
[08:59] <LaserJock> shouldn't dhcpd3 restart work?
[08:59] <ogra> that you have to call /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart instead ?
[08:59] <LaserJock> oh, that's what I thought you meant didn't work
[08:59] <ogra> well, indeed you could patch all server binaries to call the initscript
[08:59] <LaserJock> nvm
[08:59] <ogra> ;)
[09:00] <ogra> AnRkey, apart from that you need a statically configured interface with an ip of the 192.168.1.X range
[09:01] <ogra> so dhcpd knows on which interface it shall serve
[09:02] <AnRkey> could you be more "noob" friendly
[09:02] <AnRkey> ? :)
[09:02] <ogra> did you use edubuntu ? then all interfaces etc should be configured properly ...
[09:02] <ogra> else edit /etc/network/interfaces
[09:03] <ogra> man interfaces has a description of the options
[09:04] <AnRkey> no i am using regular ubuntu
[09:04] <AnRkey> i am doing research for starting a company
[09:04] <AnRkey> the M$ costs don't excite me to much so i am looking at setting up everything using ubuntu
[09:05] <AnRkey> i am setting it up on ubuntu and not edubuntu for a learning curve :D
[09:08] <LaserJock> ogra: with EdubuntuOnTwoCds we are going to have just 3 options - young children, highschool, university. Is that right?
[09:09] <LaserJock> or are the tasks up for debate?
[09:10] <ogra> that are the tasks
[09:11] <LaserJock> so would we have metapackages for those or can we do it all from g-a-i?
[09:11] <LaserJock> and do we need a seed for the second cd?
[09:11] <ogra> AnRkey, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/983/
[09:12] <ogra> add that to your /etc/network/interfaces (with the right ethX interface indeed)
[09:12] <juliux> ogra, did you have time on 17th and 18th februar?
[09:12] <ogra> juliux, nope
[09:12] <juliux> ogra, shit, we have a room for the fasching event
[09:12] <ogra> i'm flying to oslo on the 21st and have some stuff to do the week before
[09:12] <juliux> ogra, ok
[09:13] <ogra> i wont have much time this year ... travelling nearly every month for at least a week
[09:13] <juliux> enjoy it
[09:13] <ogra> so if i want to do development alongside i have no spare time at all
[09:13] <AnRkey> ogra: i can't quite figure out whats wrong with my /etc/network/interfaces file
[09:14] <ogra> well, i'm not fancy of travelling anymore after i did it for two years now
[09:15] <AnRkey> ogra: this is my /etc/network/interfaces >> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[09:15] <AnRkey> could you slap some sense into me?
[09:16] <ogra> just use the values i just posted for your setup
[09:16] <ogra> you can copy and paste it ... and adjust the interface name if its not eth0
[09:19] <LaserJock> ogra: man, that's a lot of travel. :/
[09:21] <ogra> LaserJock, yes and it gets worse ... we take more and more responsibilities with edubuntu for other projects ... that sadly requires in-person meetings ...
[09:21] <ogra> anyway, i'll have to cae for some other stuff now ... bbl
[09:21] <AnRkey> ogra: thanks i will give that a go
[09:22] <ogra> btw, CD testing for herd2 will take place the next two days ... keep your isos up to date if you want to help testing ;)
[09:23] <LaserJock> ogra: I've got the new vmware for intel macs now
[09:23] <LaserJock> I should be able to do some testing I think
[09:24] <LaserJock> but I don't have an amd64 or ppc :/
[09:44] <caris_mere> Anybody here using LOGO programming with kids?
[09:55] <caris_mere> I am having problems installing a program in edubuntu
[09:55] <LaserJock> which one?
[09:55] <caris_mere> ucblogo
[09:56] <caris_mere> I have it one machine, but the other gives errors about libraries...
[09:56] <caris_mere> but both computers are the same
[09:58] <LaserJock> hmm
[09:59] <LaserJock> caris_mere: what libraries?
[10:00] <caris_mere> Laserjock: I am not sure which libraries are having the problems, but these are the ones required: libc6, libc6.1, libice6, libncurses5, libsm6, libx11-6
[10:00] <caris_mere> Laserjock: actually I recall there being something about the x libraries that didn't work
[11:02] <AnRkey> so... ogra: still can't get my dhcp going
[11:02] <AnRkey> can u help?
[11:07] <AnRkey> Please please please for the sake of my poodle, help me
[11:08] <LaserJock> I can't really help, I've never run an LTSP server
[11:09] <LaserJock> but you should try emailing the edubuntu-users list
[11:09] <LaserJock> as right now many people are asleep
[11:10] <AnRkey> but that makes me sad
[11:10] <AnRkey> bah
[11:10] <AnRkey> thanks anyways LaserJock
[11:16] <LaserJock> well, I'm sorry I can't do more for you
[11:16] <LaserJock> but the mailing list has lots of people
[11:22] <LaserJock> ogra: if you have a chance can you make sure you've gotten the email I just sent to edubuntu-devel, thanx
[11:27] <ogra> LaserJock, dansguardian is no option for main ... (flaky license)
[11:27] <ogra> misi should in any case have jokosher (i'll wite a MIR if i find the time)
[11:27] <ogra> s/misi/music
[11:28] <ogra> what about drgeo
[11:28] <ogra> ?
[11:28] <LaserJock> ah yeah, drgeo
[11:29] <ogra> apart from that , great list ...
[11:29] <LaserJock> the science/math stuff I'm pretty ok with
[11:29] <LaserJock> the other stuff I'm much less confident about
[11:29] <LaserJock> I was just trolling about
[11:30] <ogra> lets wait what people add :)
[11:30] <LaserJock> yeah, I figure I'll let people add a bunch
[11:30] <LaserJock> then I'll widdle down to what's likely to get past pitti ;-)
[11:31] <ogra> heh, and Mithrandir :)
[11:32] <LaserJock> I'd really like to find some more teacher tools
[11:33] <ogra> there was one for scheduling ...
[11:33] <ogra> and for grade statistics ... i have to look them up
[11:33] <ogra> bibshelf would also be a good candidate ... its a neat book database software
[11:34] <LaserJock> oh, that is probably a good idea