| Lure | pinheiro: ;-) I need something for stock kde3 (powermanager info/warn notification) | 12:17 |
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| nixternal | gahahaha | 12:28 |
| nixternal | seaLne: no pr0n as i kick back and view photos either :) | 12:32 |
| seaLne | just my dirty mind i guess :) | 12:33 |
| nixternal | it took a second to grasp that though when you said it | 12:33 |
| nixternal | first time was a flyby, the second time around it landed | 12:34 |
| Jucato | heh :) | 12:34 |
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| toma | nixternal: can you remove the kubuntu meeting for tomorrow from the fridge? | 12:35 |
| nixternal | heh ya | 12:35 |
| nixternal | there is no meeting for tomorrow that i can see | 12:36 |
| seaLne | its a 22 hour meeting starting today | 12:36 |
| toma | seaLne: ah, so its a bug | 12:36 |
| seaLne | yeah sounds like start time and duration are confusing ;) | 12:37 |
| toma | yes, both have id 703 | 12:37 |
| toma | nevermind then | 12:37 |
| nixternal | Riddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/78376 | 12:39 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 78376 in ubiquity "Kubuntu Feisty daily-live Ubiquity Crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 12:40 |
| nixternal | will pop you and email now | 12:40 |
| === sebas sees big commits from Lure coming by. | ||
| nixternal | sent | 12:40 |
| Lure | sebas: and yesterday too ;-) | 12:41 |
| Lure | sebas: want to finish this off, so that we can push package tommorow morning | 12:41 |
| sebas | Lure: Depending on timezones, yes :) | 12:41 |
| sebas | Lure: I can test-run tomorrow morning (now + 9 hrs or so) | 12:41 |
| sebas | Should be in time for the freeze | 12:42 |
| Lure | sebas: please do - any feedback would be good | 12:42 |
| sebas | Sure | 12:42 |
| mhb | Jucato: I'll help you any way I can. If you want to help me and make a HOWTO for that, even better :o) | 12:42 |
| fdoving | Jucato: we'll move it here. as I said, it's just about adding a menu entry. should be simple. | 12:42 |
| Jucato | mhb: heh maybe next time. I just removed vmware :) | 12:43 |
| mhb | Jucato: aww | 12:43 |
| fdoving | qemu :) | 12:43 |
| mhb | I've noticed some people had comments about the Polyester look. It would be great if you either added them to a wiki page (like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuArtwork/PolyesterThemeIssues ) or emailed them to me. Thanks. | 12:46 |
| seaLne | toma: the problem for me was that it was entirely random whether it worked for me or not, i had 2 machine with identical packages yet only one worked | 12:46 |
| toma | seaLne: ok, i can ask if there are plans to make it easier for the future | 12:47 |
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| fdoving | nite. | 12:55 |
| Jucato | g'night for those going to bed! :) | 12:55 |
| seaLne | zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz :) | 12:56 |
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| === nixternal prepares for a night of hacking | ||
| Jucato | go nixternal!! :) | 12:57 |
| jdong_ | is there any tool I can use to figure out the version of linux from a vmlinuz file? | 12:57 |
| === jdong_ just noticed his HDTV's firmware is a vmlinuz,ext2 root, and initrd :D | ||
| Jucato | version of the kernel? | 12:58 |
| jdong_ | right | 12:58 |
| Jucato | shouldn't it be saying something like vmlinuz-<kernel.version.here>? | 12:59 |
| jdong_ | mfr's site doesn't have any firmware I could find though :( I e-mailed tech support a sec ago asking for it | 12:59 |
| jdong_ | Jucato, no, it's renamed | 12:59 |
| Jucato | jdong_: oh... | 12:59 |
| jdong_ | Jucato, it's a_335_spa.img, olevia.kgz, pm_a10.bin | 12:59 |
| Jucato | O.o | 12:59 |
| jdong_ | root, initrd, vmliinuz in that order | 12:59 |
| jdong_ | I went through pm_a10.bin with strings | 12:59 |
| jdong_ | and it's obviously linux | 12:59 |
| Jucato | I guess you can't do uname -r there :P | 01:00 |
| Lure | Tonio_: I though I would package guidance tonight, but I am too tired | 01:01 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: okay no problem, I'm just working on kdebluetooth | 01:02 |
| Lure | Tonio_: if you have time/energy I would like to see it in Herd2 (freeze tommorow) | 01:02 |
| jdong_ | Jucato, I can probably get farther by unzipping the root fs image :) | 01:02 |
| Jucato | :) | 01:02 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: can I sync from svn ? | 01:02 |
| jdong_ | Jucato, /lib/modules should have the kernel name :) | 01:02 |
| Lure | Tonio_: package just need to change to package all icons/*.png | 01:02 |
| Lure | Tonio_: yes, just take the latest from svn | 01:03 |
| Tonio_ | okay will do in a moment :) | 01:03 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ping ? | 01:03 |
| Lure | Tonio_: just do not forget to pick up all icons and not just battery*.png as we do currently | 01:03 |
| Lure | ok, nite all | 01:03 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: sure | 01:03 |
| Tonio_ | good nite | 01:03 |
| jdong_ | Jucato, ATI chipsest, MIPS32 :D | 01:03 |
| Jucato | heh :) | 01:03 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: hi | 01:07 |
| sebas | Lure: Things seem to work here | 01:07 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: can you watch /usr/share/applnk/Utilities/dunhandler.desktop and confirm me the issue at the last line ? | 01:07 |
| Tonio_ | I have an issue patching this | 01:08 |
| Hobbsee | meeting ended yet? | 01:09 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: yes | 01:09 |
| Hobbsee | right | 01:09 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: you okay? | 01:09 |
| === Hobbsee wonders if she passed out.... | ||
| Tonio_ | Riddell: the problem is that dunhaldner.desktop lacks final new line but if I patch this, I get french text in the diff..... | 01:09 |
| Tonio_ | I think that can cause an issue but I'm unsure | 01:09 |
| Jucato | hi Hobbsee! hope you're feeling better | 01:10 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: not really | 01:10 |
| Hobbsee | a little | 01:10 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: aww | 01:10 |
| === Hobbsee wanders off again | ||
| mhb | Hobbsee: what are you doing here then? .o) | 01:10 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: that's it | 01:10 |
| Hobbsee | i stayed sign in | 01:10 |
| Hobbsee | er, signe | 01:11 |
| Hobbsee | d | 01:11 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: see you later | 01:11 |
| Jucato | take a rest :) | 01:11 |
| mhb | yes | 01:11 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain=desktop_extragear-pim_kdebluetooth | 01:11 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: that's a general issue with extragear apps that I need to talk to carlos about | 01:11 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: Hidden=trueX-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain=desktop_extragear-pim_kdebluetooth | 01:12 |
| Tonio_ | this is what I have | 01:12 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: hmm, I don't have that | 01:12 |
| Tonio_ | hum......... are you up to date ? | 01:12 |
| Riddell | nope | 01:12 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yeah but I didn't touch the package for a while now..... | 01:12 |
| Tonio_ | can someone else paste his final line on feisty please ? | 01:13 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: the issue is that if I patch it I get a french "no end line at end of file" in the diff......... that's problematic | 01:13 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: export LANG+C | 01:14 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: export LANG=C | 01:14 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: testing this | 01:14 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: hmm... looks like I missed my item... oh well, I got food instead... next meeting? | 01:16 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: sure | 01:17 |
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| Riddell | sebas: please sign the CoC on launchpad and sign yourself up to kubuntu-members | 01:22 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: hmm... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RyanKavanagh#head-cfcadec9d857e81f7b76e60c8ab5dfe01e0a5e24 was basicly what I wanted to talk about... have a Kubuntu-QA team, that could work with the Testing team... I can make a wiki elaborating the idea if you want :) | 01:25 |
| manchicken | WEAK! | 01:26 |
| Tonio_ | ryanakca: are you using feisty ? | 01:26 |
| Tonio_ | or manchicken ? | 01:26 |
| manchicken | pyuic doesn't support Qt4 designer!!!! | 01:26 |
| sebas | Riddell: Just done that | 01:26 |
| ryanakca | Tonio_: no.. wondering when I should upgrade... I'll probably upgrade with Herd 2... | 01:27 |
| manchicken | I'm using feisty in chroot. | 01:27 |
| sebas | manchicken: pyuic4 does, IIRC. | 01:27 |
| manchicken | What package is pyuic4 in? | 01:27 |
| manchicken | Or is that not a feisty package? | 01:27 |
| ryanakca | Tonio_: why? | 01:28 |
| Tonio_ | ryanakca: needed confirmation on a bug | 01:28 |
| sebas | pyqt4-dev-tools | 01:28 |
| manchicken | Very nice. | 01:28 |
| ryanakca | Tonio_: ah, kk, sorry | 01:29 |
| Tonio_ | ryanakca: no pb :) | 01:29 |
| === manchicken really want emacs w/fuzzy-fonts... | ||
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm packaging guidance | 01:30 |
| ryanakca | gnomefreak: sorry, lost the link to the opera .deb, mind resending it to me? | 01:30 |
| Riddell | manchicken: you need pyuic4 | 01:30 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: have you checked with Lure it's a good time for that? | 01:31 |
| manchicken | Got it. | 01:31 |
| manchicken | I really don't want to have to hand-recreate all of this UI. heh. | 01:31 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yeah he asked me to do it before herd2 | 01:31 |
| Riddell | cool | 01:32 |
| Tonio_ | kdebluetooth fixed... dunhandler path was invalid too, should work now | 01:33 |
| Tonio_ | then I have to fix katalog, and gtk-qt-engine | 01:33 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I noticed gtk-qt-engine package doesn't have dpatch rules.... | 01:34 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: should I consider switch back to cdbs for simple-patchsys or do you want to use something close to the debian packaging system ? | 01:34 |
| Tonio_ | I vote for cdbs :) | 01:35 |
| Tonio_ | debian packaging "structure", sorry | 01:35 |
| sebas | Speaking of kbluetooth, it has the wrong presets for /etc/init.d/bluetooth start|stop | 01:35 |
| sebas | Good: /etc/init.d/bluetooth start|stop | 01:36 |
| sebas | Bad: /etc/init.d/bluez-utils start|stop | 01:36 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: I like cdbs simple-patchsys bestest | 01:37 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay let's divert from debian again :) | 01:37 |
| allee | sebas: in debian one beter uses invoke-rc.d bluetooth start|stop | 01:38 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: what does debian use? | 01:38 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: why do we need to patch? | 01:38 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: pure debhelper packaging without any patching system in use... | 01:38 |
| sebas | allee: kbluetooth wants to know that anyway | 01:38 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: we patch for the icons, and I also need to hide the kcm desktop file in kmenu | 01:38 |
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| === allee ponders to plans to try quilt instead of simple patchsys 'cause it allows to pusd/pop/test/remove patches | ||
| manchicken | Okay, I'm gonna take off for now. | 01:40 |
| ryanakca | see yah manchicken | 01:41 |
| ryanakca | allee: does cdbs' patch system let you do that? | 01:42 |
| allee | ryanakca: no, not conviniently | 01:43 |
| ryanakca | hmm | 01:44 |
| ryanakca | is the kubuntu cloak kubuntu/members? or ubuntu/members? | 01:48 |
| Riddell | there isn't a kubuntu cloak | 02:00 |
| Riddell | just ubuntu | 02:00 |
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| somerville32 | Can someone that was at the meeting tonight login to gobby and summarize the meeting for the UWN? | 02:10 |
| nixternal | how much money do you have? | 02:11 |
| somerville32 | Umm... I got cookies. :) | 02:11 |
| nixternal | im on a diet | 02:11 |
| nixternal | ;p | 02:11 |
| nixternal | if someone doesn't step up in the next few minutes i will take care of it | 02:12 |
| ryanakca | oooh, cookies... what kind? | 02:12 |
| Jucato | nixternal: Customizing Kubuntu desktop wiki is up: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu | 02:12 |
| nixternal | ryanakca: the kind you like :) | 02:12 |
| nixternal | rockin' Jucato! | 02:12 |
| somerville32 | Thats right :) | 02:12 |
| ryanakca | somerville32: hmm... how long till the get here? | 02:12 |
| ryanakca | somerville32: I would, but I have no clue about gobby, and I was only there for half of the meeting... sorry | 02:13 |
| nixternal | he will overnight them just as soon as you finish the gobby write up :) | 02:13 |
| ryanakca | next time :) | 02:13 |
| nixternal | argh :) | 02:13 |
| ryanakca | sorry nixternal, I knew you really really really wanted to summarize it, so I decided to leave it for you :) | 02:14 |
| nixternal | haha thanks | 02:14 |
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| Jucato | nixternal: rppppoek doesn't seem to setup PPPoE connections. it's only a systray app to connect/disconnect/get the IP | 02:21 |
| nixternal | shouldn't be all that difficult to make it set them up though | 02:21 |
| Jucato | meaning, modify the code? create a GUI to setup PPPoE? | 02:22 |
| nixternal | sure :) | 02:22 |
| Jucato | heh :) | 02:22 |
| nixternal | i have a brand new Qt4 design book as well ;p | 02:22 |
| Jucato | wth?!! which one? | 02:22 |
| nixternal | c++ gui programming with qt4 | 02:23 |
| nixternal | there is another one as well that I am going to order | 02:23 |
| Jucato | aw... :( | 02:23 |
| Jucato | Design Patterns in C++ using Qt 4? | 02:23 |
| Hobbsee | whee, back again | 02:23 |
| nixternal | ya, that is the one im going to order, blue cover? | 02:23 |
| nixternal | hiya Hobbsee | 02:23 |
| Jucato | yep | 02:23 |
| Jucato | wb Hobbsee! | 02:23 |
| Hobbsee | heya | 02:23 |
| Jucato | feeling better? | 02:23 |
| Hobbsee | yeah | 02:23 |
| Hobbsee | shaking - but not twitching | 02:24 |
| ryanakca | hey Hobbsee | 02:24 |
| Jucato | nixternal: you ordered it online? how much did it cost? (wanna ask my relatives to buy one for me...) | 02:24 |
| === Hobbsee waves | ||
| Hobbsee | heya | 02:24 |
| === Hobbsee back a bit later | ||
| nixternal | less than $40 | 02:24 |
| nixternal | USD | 02:24 |
| Jucato | yeah, they're in the US :) | 02:24 |
| Jucato | NY to be exact | 02:24 |
| === Jucato wonders if danimo's book will ever be translated to English, making that 3 Qt 4 books available | ||
| nixternal | did he do the German one? | 02:25 |
| Jucato | yeah | 02:26 |
| nixternal | ya i seen that one on amazon as well, it is in my 'wish list' somehow | 02:26 |
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| Jucato | heh... if you can read german :D | 02:26 |
| nixternal | heh, i can hardly read english ;) | 02:26 |
| Jucato | lol | 02:27 |
| Jucato | btw, ordered it through amazon? | 02:27 |
| Jucato | nixternal: while waiting for the other book, you might find this interesting: http://cartan.cas.suffolk.edu/moin/OopDocbookWiki | 02:28 |
| ryanakca | anybody have a link to kubuntu posters/pamphlets/promo stuff? all I've found is ubuntu stuff... | 02:28 |
| nixternal | nice | 02:29 |
| nixternal | ryanakca: and thats all you will find | 02:29 |
| ryanakca | drats | 02:29 |
| nixternal | i think the only K ones I have seen was one I did which was remmoved and I think one raphink did as well | 02:29 |
| nixternal | ermm, presentations | 02:29 |
| === ryanakca wonders if kwiii will ever make one... | ||
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| ryanakca | I would make one... but it would probably scare people away from it rather than attracting people to it | 02:30 |
| Jucato | heh :) | 02:30 |
| nixternal | ryanakca: get your blog on the planet, blog about it, and you will be amazed by how many people respond to it | 02:32 |
| nixternal | i have been getting more and more emails each day from people (most of them bashing beryl and automatix) | 02:33 |
| nixternal | i have started an anti-beryl and anti-automatix following | 02:33 |
| === Jucato always reads the planet... but doesn't comment... :O | ||
| nixternal | i try to comment on some blogs | 02:34 |
| ryanakca | nixternal: I don't have a blog... used to... | 02:34 |
| Jucato | I don't feel worthy :) | 02:34 |
| ryanakca | nixternal: but I only wrote stuff in it every 2-3 weeks, and even then it wasn't really interesting... | 02:35 |
| === Jucato takes a very short nap... | ||
| nixternal | hahaha, my dad seen a commercial that has that old 80's song which i don't know the words (rock the cash box) or something | 02:35 |
| nixternal | but he says rock the cat box | 02:35 |
| nixternal | i hate having a big screen tv, he comes over all the time and watches my tv | 02:36 |
| ryanakca | lol | 02:36 |
| ryanakca | how far away does he live? | 02:36 |
| nixternal | i live in their house, just have my own section | 02:36 |
| ryanakca | couple blocks? | 02:36 |
| ryanakca | ah | 02:36 |
| nixternal | ya | 02:36 |
| ryanakca | meh, I guess you don't get lonely :P | 02:37 |
| nixternal | i had to move back for a little while so i could finish school with my military benefits before they ran out | 02:37 |
| ryanakca | ah | 02:37 |
| nixternal | nah, plus i walk through the garage to get there for some dinner :) | 02:37 |
| ryanakca | lol | 02:37 |
| ryanakca | that's a plus | 02:38 |
| nixternal | ya, my little corner is setup like a flat | 02:38 |
| === ryanakca wonders what he'll do with the 50 or so cds he has laying around... hmm... | ||
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| ryanakca | I have Debian 3.0, gparted, Mandriva 2006, Red Hat 9, FC1, RH 6.0, Debian 2.0, hmm... knoppix, FC4, CentOS 4.0, Lindows (ick), puppy linux, freebsd 6.1 or 6.0...2 shipit cds left... | 02:41 |
| Ubugtu | Mandriva bug 2006 in Installation "Can't scroll properly in flat mode." [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2006 | 02:41 |
| ryanakca | wow, it gets mandriva bugs too? | 02:42 |
| Hobbsee | Uptime: 3 hours and 45 minutes | 02:42 |
| Hobbsee | impressive :) | 02:42 |
| ryanakca | lol | 02:42 |
| nixternal | interesting, the house on google maps must be old, it doesn't have the new portion, nor the pool, and has the old shed & walkway | 02:42 |
| ryanakca | Uptime: 2 days, 4 hours and 7 minutes | 02:42 |
| nixternal | 19:42:52 up 5 days, 25 min, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | 02:42 |
| ryanakca | lol | 02:43 |
| nixternal | dude it was 4 months until my dog unplugged it | 02:43 |
| ryanakca | Fedora Core bug 200, and sorry for abusing the bug bot :) | 02:43 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 200 in baz ""baz export" exports to the wrong directory with pathnames consisting of multiple components" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200 | 02:43 |
| ryanakca | lol | 02:43 |
| ryanakca | guess not | 02:43 |
| ryanakca | probably if I removed bug... but doesn't matter | 02:43 |
| ryanakca | nixternal: I still don't know what the point of uptime is... | 02:43 |
| nixternal | that is why i use boog instead :) | 02:43 |
| nixternal | heh, irssi sysinfo command has a vpenis score and i have no clue wth that is | 02:44 |
| nixternal | Host 'heavymetal', running Linux 2.6.17-10-server - Cpu0: Pentium III 797 MHz; Up: 5d+26 min; Users: 1; Load: 0.02; Free: [Mem: 7/376 Mio] [Swap: 831/831 Mio] [/: 16189/18415 Mio] ; Vpenis: 24.7 cm; | 02:44 |
| nixternal | see | 02:44 |
| nixternal | and i didn't install that (that i know of) | 02:44 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: yes, but this is a laptpo, and that was how long it lasted without pwoer | 02:45 |
| ryanakca | odd | 02:45 |
| === Hobbsee wonders what happened during the meeting | ||
| ryanakca | Hobbsee: nice... my mums is about an hour | 02:45 |
| nixternal | damn Hobbsee that is awesome | 02:45 |
| nixternal | mine is 2.5 every rip | 02:45 |
| ryanakca | Hobbsee: what laptop? | 02:45 |
| nixternal | and guidance is 100% accurate the entire time | 02:45 |
| Hobbsee | dell 6400 | 02:45 |
| ryanakca | oh, and Hobbsee, nixternal is writing a resume of the meeting, feel free to harrass him :) | 02:45 |
| Hobbsee | with the least-brightest screen, using the wifi | 02:45 |
| Hobbsee | hehe, i'll just read it | 02:45 |
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| === Hobbsee now remembers all the stuff taht she wanted toa sk in the meeting :P | ||
| ryanakca | lol | 02:46 |
| Hobbsee | guess i'll have to email it to the ML... | 02:47 |
| ryanakca | Hobbsee: your a bug triager, right? | 02:47 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: among other things, sure | 02:47 |
| ryanakca | or did you fade out? | 02:47 |
| Hobbsee | no, i still do it | 02:48 |
| === Hobbsee hasnt had much time lately... | ||
| ryanakca | hmm... what would you think of a Kubuntu-QA... I have some ideas under https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RyanKavanagh#head-cfcadec9d857e81f7b76e60c8ab5dfe01e0a5e24 ... | 02:48 |
| ryanakca | I'm going to talk to mhb about it tommorow, but incorporate the testing team into it... | 02:48 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: yeah...that sort of thing would be the testing team | 02:49 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: there's already a mailing list for it - kubuntu bugs, or something | 02:49 |
| === Hobbsee subscribes to most of it anyawy | ||
| Hobbsee | what bugs would count as kubuntu bugs? guess ones that belonged to kde* | 02:50 |
| ryanakca | yeah | 02:50 |
| nixternal | a qa team would be great imho | 02:50 |
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| Hobbsee | what about ubuntu-qa? | 02:50 |
| ryanakca | anything in kubuntu-desktop mainly, and then the KDE stuff in main. Universe would get a lower priority | 02:50 |
| Hobbsee | become part of that, do do kubuntu | 02:50 |
| Hobbsee | argh. -do | 02:50 |
| nixternal | Hobbsee: that is mainly for bug triaging is it not? | 02:50 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: yes | 02:51 |
| ryanakca | Ubuntu-qa is anything... | 02:51 |
| Hobbsee | -qa does mostly triage | 02:51 |
| ryanakca | and I'm part of ubuntu-qa... | 02:51 |
| Hobbsee | cd testing, etd | 02:51 |
| Hobbsee | c | 02:51 |
| Hobbsee | cool | 02:51 |
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| nixternal | well, i guess kubuntu-testing is the same as kubuntu-qa and vice versa | 02:51 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: instead of creating a new team, i'd suggest you work with mhb on the testing | 02:52 |
| Hobbsee | speaking of which, there's a new subforum of ubuntu forums, for cd testers | 02:52 |
| nixternal | oh ya, i did see the planet post on that | 02:52 |
| Hobbsee | maybe we want to integrate that with our testing, including a wiki. not sure on that | 02:52 |
| ryanakca | Kubuntu Quality Assurance would test it, file bug reports and triage them... kubuntu bugs would be https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | 02:52 |
| Hobbsee | as long as people actually keep it well done, that should be really handy | 02:53 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: what's "it"? | 02:53 |
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| ryanakca | Herd 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, x, groundhog 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, x | 02:53 |
| ryanakca | whatever -testers tests... | 02:54 |
| nixternal | hey kde devs, how come in trunk you have kdesecurity, kdock, kfte, and klyx that hasn't been touched in years? | 02:55 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: ah right | 02:55 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: ask in #kde-devel or soemthing | 02:55 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: there's no groundhog | 02:56 |
| ryanakca | I thought next release was grumpy groundhog... meh | 02:56 |
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| Hobbsee | ryanakca: no. that's hte inside canonical testing thingo that we dont know about | 02:57 |
| ryanakca | ah | 02:57 |
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| Hobbsee | morning deity | 02:58 |
| bddebian | Heya foks | 02:59 |
| bddebian | Err folks | 02:59 |
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| Hobbsee | bddebian: that's you. | 03:00 |
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| bddebian | Me who? | 03:00 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: :P the deity | 03:00 |
| bddebian | I'm just a schmuck :( | 03:02 |
| Hobbsee | awwww | 03:02 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: you still here? | 03:03 |
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| ryanakca | Hobbsee: shall I update the topic? | 03:06 |
| imbrandon | yup | 03:06 |
| imbrandon | wasup ? | 03:07 |
| ryanakca | kk, just a sec, I'm going to add the bug link | 03:07 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee, pong | 03:07 |
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| ryanakca | imbrandon: oh, I got hammered by questions at the meeting today :) | 03:08 |
| ryanakca | bbl, bed :) | 03:08 |
| imbrandon | lol | 03:08 |
| imbrandon | later | 03:08 |
| ryanakca | (or as hobbsee would put it, grilled :) | 03:08 |
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| imbrandon | yea , hammered == drunk to me ;) | 03:09 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: where's the svn konversation please :D | 03:10 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: yeah, i was going to ask you more :P | 03:10 |
| imbrandon | ahh yea. cruft, gimme 5 minutes | 03:10 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 03:10 |
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| imbrandon | hehe | 03:13 |
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| nixternal | lovely, my password for kde svn isn't working | 03:15 |
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| imbrandon | make -F Makefile | 03:21 |
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| imbrandon | err | 03:21 |
| nixternal | hehe | 03:21 |
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| Hobbsee | imbrandon: take two :P | 03:33 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: what should kubuntu-testers be doing, in your view? | 03:34 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: *poke* | 03:34 |
| Hobbsee | jdong: right. if you're mocking, i dont think we'll do anything about your bug, OK? :P | 03:36 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: when Riddell bounces you that something python related, can you CC me? | 03:42 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: or CC me in the first place? | 03:42 |
| allee | imbrandon: next time you merge konversation, please remove debian/cdbs/kde.mk. rules does not use it | 03:42 |
| Hobbsee | allee: cool, thanks @ kommando | 03:47 |
| imbrandon | allee, sure | 03:47 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: yes i was awake, FYI - i had trouble bootign - latest kernel didnt have l-r-m, so i had no wifi | 03:48 |
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| jdong | hobbsee: hehe :) | 04:24 |
| Hobbsee | jdong: :P | 04:24 |
| jdong | hobbsee: mind you slashdot is my runner-up bug tracking system ;-) | 04:25 |
| jdong | LOL | 04:25 |
| Hobbsee | jdong: heh | 04:26 |
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| nixternal | here we go again | 05:35 |
| nixternal | anyone have any good news to add to the UWN? | 05:35 |
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| Hobbsee | nixternal: hrm? stuff from the meeting would work | 05:41 |
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| === mode/#kubuntu-devel [+b jack_wyt!*@*] by Hobbsee | ||
| nixternal | already got that | 05:41 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 05:42 |
| nixternal | Hobbsee: should you forward him to #fix_your_shiznit | 05:42 |
| nixternal | or whatever it is | 05:42 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: when does this get published? | 05:42 |
| nixternal | im guessing today/tomorrow depending where at in the world you are | 05:42 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: probably....his home server knows about it | 05:42 |
| Hobbsee | right | 05:42 |
| Hobbsee | you could say that u-u-s has a mailing list now, but it's still being configured | 05:42 |
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| === mode/#kubuntu-devel [+b jack_wyt!*@*##fix_your_client] by Hobbsee | ||
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| nixternal | you had it right with the ## one | 05:45 |
| nixternal | interesting that he isn't doing this in #ubuntu | 05:45 |
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| nixternal | yes he is :) | 05:45 |
| Hobbsee | he just did... | 05:45 |
| nixternal | jack_wyt: port 8001 | 05:45 |
| nixternal | lol | 05:45 |
| === mode/#kubuntu-devel [+b jack_wyt!*@*] by Hobbsee | ||
| === mode/#kubuntu-devel [+b ##fix_your_clie*!*@*] by Hobbsee | ||
| nixternal | jack_wyt: you are join/part flooding | 05:46 |
| === mode/#kubuntu-devel [-b ##fix_your_clie*!*@*.] by Hobbsee | ||
| Hobbsee | nixternal: i suspect by accident | 05:46 |
| Hobbsee | it doesnt want to banforward | 05:46 |
| nixternal | i think Hobbsee sets +b jack_wyt!*@*##fix_your_client was the correct way | 05:47 |
| Hobbsee | he could still join | 05:47 |
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| nixternal | lol | 05:47 |
| nixternal | now he can't | 05:47 |
| === mode/#kubuntu-devel [+b *!*@61.48.79.151##fix_your_client] by Hobbsee | ||
| nixternal | there you go | 05:48 |
| === mode/#kubuntu-devel [+b *!*@61.48.79.151#fix_your_client] by Hobbsee | ||
| Hobbsee | hrm | 05:48 |
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| nixternal | hurry now, see if it works | 05:49 |
| === mode/#kubuntu-devel [+b jack_wyt!*@*!##fix_your_client] by Hobbsee | ||
| nixternal | heh, i can't /opme in here | 05:49 |
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| nixternal | lol | 05:50 |
| Hobbsee | yay for that section in konvi :) | 05:50 |
| nixternal | /ban jack_wyt!*@*!##fix_your_client | 05:50 |
| nixternal | copy and paste it :) | 05:50 |
| Hobbsee | yeah,i got it | 05:50 |
| nixternal | hehe | 05:50 |
| freeflying | Hobbsee: please unban jack_wyt | 05:52 |
| Hobbsee | freeflying: for? | 05:52 |
| Hobbsee | freeflying: is he speaking, as opposed to a dead client? | 05:52 |
| nixternal | if he was speaking, it would be like a cell phone cutting out | 05:52 |
| Hobbsee | freeflying: the join/part spam is annoying | 05:52 |
| Hobbsee | freeflying: especially as it's gone on for days | 05:53 |
| nixternal | h y hobb se ho ar yo d i g | 05:53 |
| freeflying | Hobbsee: for his damn network, he is my workmate, i'm suufering the damn netwrok too | 05:53 |
| freeflying | :) | 05:53 |
| Hobbsee | freeflying: ahhh. how are you managing to stay in then? | 05:53 |
| Hobbsee | freeflying: you may want to suggest he reads logs, if his connection is so flakey | 05:53 |
| freeflying | Hobbsee: ssh-tunnel :) | 05:53 |
| Hobbsee | hehe - teach him about it? | 05:54 |
| Hobbsee | freeflying: oh, you're in asia somewhere, arnet you. that wouldnt be pleasant | 05:54 |
| freeflying | Hobbsee: he haven't any ssh accounts outside our office :) | 05:54 |
| Hobbsee | freeflying: ahh | 05:54 |
| nixternal | freeflying: give him one :) | 05:56 |
| nixternal | hehe | 05:56 |
| nixternal | that is a horrid network if it continues to do that | 05:56 |
| freeflying | nixternal: I haven't too, mine is given by imbrandon too :) | 05:57 |
| nixternal | ahhh | 05:57 |
| nixternal | imbrandon: ^^ :) | 05:57 |
| nixternal | you can start charging ;p | 05:57 |
| === freeflying 'd pay for imbrandon :) | ||
| nixternal | just make sure he doesn't convert it to USD, we tend to rip people off ;) | 05:58 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 05:59 |
| === mode/#kubuntu-devel [-b jack_wyt!*@*!##fix_your_client] by Hobbsee | ||
| Hobbsee | there... | 05:59 |
| freeflying | Hobbsee: thanks :) | 06:00 |
| Hobbsee | freeflying: might be worth getting your friend to ask imbrandon for a shell too | 06:01 |
| freeflying | Hobbsee: then we really need pay imbrandon for it :) | 06:02 |
| Hobbsee | freeflying: have you seen the plan that he's on? it's nuts! | 06:03 |
| freeflying | Hobbsee: what plan? | 06:04 |
| Hobbsee | freeflying: the dreamhost plans - i think they have 75 shells, at base rate | 06:04 |
| freeflying | sounds nice, I'd have a look :) | 06:05 |
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| Hobbsee | !root | 06:49 |
| ubotu | sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information. | 06:49 |
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| katakombi | Hi. I'd like to get a certain package in feisty. Is it still possible? | 10:36 |
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| Lure | Tonio_, Riddell: guidance have one release critical bug: crash on startup w/o config file - fix is in svn, but I do not have time to provide debdiff | 11:48 |
| Lure | Tonio_: how did you create your orig.tar.gz: it is lacking some files on powermanager/icons (ac-adapter, processor) | 11:48 |
| Lure | Tonio_: and debian/*.install file still packages just battery-*.png - it should also include processor.png and ac-adaptor.png | 11:49 |
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| Zerlinna | ping Riddell | 12:59 |
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| Tonio_ | Lure: ac-adapter isn't there ?????? | 01:40 |
| Tonio_ | argh, I missed the install file..... | 01:41 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: I'm fixing this | 01:41 |
| Riddell | hi Zerlinna | 01:41 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: ping ? | 01:41 |
| Tonio_ | hey Riddell | 01:41 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: is the freeze active or can I upoad a latest guidance ? | 01:42 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: go ahead | 01:42 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm just doing the package | 01:44 |
| Zerlinna | Riddell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda I hope it's ok like this | 01:45 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: uploaded, sorry for missing the install file changes... | 01:49 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: also, you missed one of my change in guidance-power-manager.py, I readded it, I will send you a patch for svn | 01:50 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll try to attend at solution linux 2007 booth | 01:57 |
| Hobbsee | hey all | 01:57 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: we need at least one kubuntu person there :) | 01:58 |
| === Hobbsee is still alive | ||
| Tonio_ | hi Hobbsee | 01:58 |
| Zerlinna | hi Hobbsee | 01:59 |
| Hobbsee | :) heya | 01:59 |
| Hobbsee | oh dear. we still have an "insert image here" section of the released kubuntu docs in edgy - the examples on the cd | 02:01 |
| Hobbsee | x2 | 02:02 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: do you have CDs? | 02:03 |
| Riddell | Zerlinna: that looks good | 02:04 |
| Riddell | Zerlinna: I have a real life meeting this evening, but I'll try and be at CC too | 02:04 |
| Hobbsee | a real life meeting? whta's that? | 02:04 |
| \sh | moins Zerlinna | 02:05 |
| \sh | happy new year :) | 02:05 |
| Riddell | akademy organisres | 02:05 |
| Zerlinna | Riddell: it would be good if you could be at the cc | 02:05 |
| Zerlinna | hey \sh ! long time no see, happy new year ! | 02:06 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: nope can you provide a few cds to me ? | 02:07 |
| Tonio_ | I'll contact the french locoteam to be sure they accept me and then we can rediscuss this maybe | 02:08 |
| Zerlinna | Tonio_: will someone of us be present at fosdem? | 02:11 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: ooh, fun :) | 02:13 |
| Tonio_ | Zerlinna: I don't know at all... not that I know | 02:13 |
| Zerlinna | Tonio_: hmmm pity | 02:14 |
| Tonio_ | Zerlinna: but I can't imagin there is no ubuntu booth in there, I just don't know about kubuntu | 02:15 |
| Zerlinna | Tonio_: there is a ubuntu booth http://www.fosdem.org/2007/booths :) | 02:16 |
| \sh | Zerlinna:http://www.fosdem.org/2007/booths | 02:17 |
| \sh | ubuntu-be will be there | 02:17 |
| Zerlinna | \sh: I meant if there will also be some kubuntu-people | 02:17 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: what is the date of the event? | 02:18 |
| Tonio_ | from 01/30 to 02/01 | 02:18 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: 3 days | 02:18 |
| Riddell | erk | 02:18 |
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| Tonio_ | I'll contact ubuntu-fr today so I hope a response for tomorrow | 02:18 |
| Tonio_ | is that too late to provide me cds ? | 02:18 |
| Riddell | wait, that's not /in/ three days | 02:19 |
| Tonio_ | no, that's in 3 weeks, and the meeting is 3 days long :) | 02:19 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: order it on shipit then and put FAO maralize in the title so it gets processed fast | 02:20 |
| apokryphos | fosdem looks set to be awesome this year; can't wait | 02:21 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay, what is FAO maralize ? what does this mean ? | 02:21 |
| Riddell | for attention of | 02:22 |
| Riddell | Maralize is incharge of shipit | 02:22 |
| seele | mhb: ping | 02:23 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay thanks :) | 02:24 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: talking about that, is your invitation for akademy 2007 still valid ? ^^ | 02:32 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: which invitation was that? | 02:33 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: you told me 2 month ago you would like me to be there ;) | 02:34 |
| Riddell | certainly would | 02:34 |
| Riddell | everyone should come | 02:34 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm intereted, although I don't know if I'll be free to come, that depends if I get a new job or not..... | 02:34 |
| Tonio_ | if I get a knew one, that means no vacations for a year.... | 02:35 |
| Riddell | bonus points to mhb for getting the kubuntu meeting at the top of UWN | 02:35 |
| Riddell | no holidays for a year? what happened to french labour laws? | 02:35 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: we have 5 weeks per year, but in fact you have to win them, 2 days by month | 02:36 |
| Tonio_ | so when you start working, you generally have to wait for May to take the vacations you won | 02:37 |
| Tonio_ | so if I start in march or april, that means I will have to wait for may next year to take them | 02:37 |
| Tonio_ | that's a bit strange I know, but that's it ;) | 02:37 |
| Hobbsee | yay, cd testing... | 02:47 |
| Tonio_ | hum that kdebluetooth makes me crazy.... the patch didn't apply during the build, although that's a simple-patchsys task.... | 02:51 |
| Tonio_ | I don't understand | 02:51 |
| Tonio_ | Trying patch debian/patches/kubuntu_07_dunhandler_desktop.patch at level 1 ... success. | 02:55 |
| Tonio_ | that's a nightmare..... works locally | 02:55 |
| Tonio_ | fast creating kdebluetooth/kdebluetooth-common/dunhandler/dunhandler.desktop | 02:56 |
| Tonio_ | argh !!!!!!!! it is regenerated :/ | 02:56 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll fix this later, since that's not an emergency at all.... I'll prepare the package and wait for herd2 to be out | 02:57 |
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| sebas | Tonio_: Did you read my "kbluetoothd uses /etc/init.d/bluez-utils where it should use /etc/init.d/bluetooth" message? | 03:00 |
| Tonio_ | sebas: yup | 03:00 |
| Tonio_ | sebas: I also have to patch this | 03:01 |
| sebas | Tonio_: Ok, thanks | 03:01 |
| Tonio_ | sebas: patch is done, I'll wait for herd2 to upload | 03:07 |
| sebas | Kool | 03:07 |
| jdong | Riddell: ping | 03:08 |
| Riddell | jdong: hi | 03:14 |
| jdong | Riddell: question regarding DFSG ktorrent and the GeoIP database | 03:14 |
| jdong | does the GeoIP standard license really violate Ubuntu's main guidelines? | 03:14 |
| jdong | Azureus is in universe (not multiverse) and ships with the same database | 03:14 |
| jdong | Novell/SUSE even ships the database with opensuse's ktorrent | 03:15 |
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| Hobbsee | jdong: can i smack midmark (cimmo) with the cluebat please? | 03:33 |
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| jdong | Hobbsee: he's just a user who is slightly ticked off at the possibility of losing 500MB or so of data every time he uses his USB stick | 03:34 |
| jdong | crazy fool | 03:34 |
| bddebian | Heya | 03:35 |
| Hobbsee | jdong: i can understand that. but a crackpot solution usually doesnt work too well either | 03:35 |
| jdong | which solution is crackpot? | 03:35 |
| jdong | mounting sync, or remount-ro then umount? | 03:35 |
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| Hobbsee | whichever. without Riddell deciding which one is better | 03:35 |
| Hobbsee | hey Jucato! | 03:35 |
| jdong | well, when will Riddell decide? | 03:35 |
| jdong | this is a decision that could've been made a month before Edgy released when this bug was discovered | 03:36 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: jdong i suggest you ask him | 03:36 |
| jdong | instead it's been ignored and shoved back forever | 03:36 |
| Hobbsee | jdong: then write the damned debdiff. you clearly know what teh solution is. that will get you a hell of a lot further than just bitching constantly. | 03:36 |
| jdong | Riddell: care to express an opinion on how best to safely handle unmounting writable media in Edgy? | 03:36 |
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| jdong | Hobbsee: I'm not a KDE developer... where is unmounting handled? what source package? what cpp files? | 03:37 |
| Hobbsee | aiee! http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/night-bans-tougher-tests-for-pplaters/2007/01/09/1168104983564.html | 03:37 |
| Hobbsee | jdong: in dbus somewhere. | 03:37 |
| jdong | in dbus somewhere? | 03:37 |
| jdong | which KDE source package handles the KDE portion of it though | 03:37 |
| jdong | kdebase? kdelibs? | 03:37 |
| jdong | I'm not downloading a 30MB source package in my slow wifi link to find out it's the wrong one | 03:38 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: talking about the usbkey issue, we have 2 things to do : | 03:40 |
| Tonio_ | test 3.5.6 | 03:40 |
| Tonio_ | and test packages without sime's patches | 03:40 |
| jdong | Tonio_: I don't think sime's patches are to blame. The problem exposes itself in FC6 and Opensuse 10.2 | 03:40 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: great then | 03:41 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: I thought it was a ubuntu only issue | 03:41 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: then we have to test with 3.5.6 | 03:41 |
| jdong | Tonio_: from what Hobbsee said, the KDE response was 'we will fix it with KDE4' :D | 03:41 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: pffffffff stupid :( | 03:41 |
| jdong | my sentiments exactly | 03:41 |
| Tonio_ | it worked before so we just have to revert the code........ | 03:42 |
| raphink | 'we'll fix it after the release' | 03:42 |
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| Tonio_ | worked with 3.5.3 afaicr | 03:42 |
| jdong | Tonio_: it was a side effect of transitioning to d-bus | 03:42 |
| jdong | so I'm not sure if we'd want to revert that :) | 03:42 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: hum, probably not indeed | 03:42 |
| jdong | hence why I suggested mounting sync for the time being | 03:42 |
| Tonio_ | so the issue would be in dbus+kde and not kde code change ? | 03:43 |
| jdong | well, kde code change to have removable media handled by d-bus rather than itself | 03:43 |
| jdong | I'm guessing that during that shift, KDE lost its ability to see deeply into mounting behavior | 03:43 |
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| Tonio_ | the kde way to react to hard bugs is dangerous | 03:44 |
| Tonio_ | "wait for kde4" | 03:44 |
| jdong | I know | 03:44 |
| Tonio_ | that's great, but when will kde4 be mature ? | 03:44 |
| Tonio_ | and all apps ported to it (k3b, amarok....) | 03:44 |
| Tonio_ | that'll take a while | 03:44 |
| jdong | but to be fair it does seem like this is a bug at the core of storage management and isn't trivial to resolve in a technically meritable way | 03:44 |
| jdong | which is why I suggested my two workarounds | 03:44 |
| jdong | (1) mount sync like SUSE/Redhat does | 03:45 |
| Tonio_ | the problem is that kde 3 become unstable | 03:45 |
| jdong | (2) Change unmounting behavior to remount-ro then unmount | 03:45 |
| Tonio_ | 3.5.3 was just perfect | 03:45 |
| Tonio_ | and each new release adds a bunch of new critical bugs | 03:45 |
| Tonio_ | 3.5.4 went with this one | 03:45 |
| jdong | that sadly seems like the case | 03:45 |
| Tonio_ | 3.5.5 went with the crappy kwallet not saving passwords on logout...... | 03:46 |
| Tonio_ | that really critical | 03:46 |
| jdong | but I'm sure these will all get fixed in KDE4 ;-) | 03:46 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: your workarround can be the solution as long as we know kde 3 will not be fixed.... | 03:46 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: are you able to provide patches for this ? | 03:46 |
| jdong | Tonio_: no, I don't know the best way to effect that. It's a dbus/hal config file in /etc | 03:47 |
| jdong | Tonio_: I'd have to recommend talking to one of our experts in that field of how it should be done | 03:47 |
| jdong | because only kubuntu needs to do it; ubuntu/gnome is unaffected | 03:47 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: hum, we can hack that via kds package, but that's a policy violation | 03:47 |
| Tonio_ | really crappy | 03:47 |
| jdong | right :-/ | 03:48 |
| Tonio_ | and we cannot change the file directly cause that'll impact gnome too | 03:48 |
| jdong | I wasn't sure if touching hal was something kds was supposed to do | 03:48 |
| Tonio_ | okay can you send me the etc config file patched ? | 03:48 |
| Tonio_ | I'll test and then think about a solution | 03:48 |
| Tonio_ | something acceptable | 03:48 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: only hal is supposed to touch hal ;) | 03:48 |
| Tonio_ | otherwise that's a debian policy violation | 03:49 |
| Tonio_ | not any package is supposed to touch etc/ files except the file holding package | 03:49 |
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| jdong | Tonio_: look at /etc/hal/fdi/policy/preferences.fdi , line 32 to end | 03:49 |
| jdong | there's already commented-out sample config lines for forcing sync (on media <1GB, but that check can be easily removed) | 03:50 |
| jdong | IMO we should not be using that check because media >1GB suffer from the exact same issue | 03:50 |
| Tonio_ | yup | 03:50 |
| Tonio_ | I have a 2gb usb key that has the same problem | 03:51 |
| jdong | right; size isn't the issue; write speed of the medium is the biggest one | 03:51 |
| Tonio_ | yup | 03:51 |
| jdong | and nothing says media greater than n GB will write blindingly fast ;-) | 03:51 |
| Tonio_ | hum I have to go for a few minutes, brb | 03:51 |
| jdong | np | 03:51 |
| jdong | thanks for your time, Tonio_ | 03:51 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: but we have to think about a fix for the release, that's really critical | 03:51 |
| jdong | yeah | 03:52 |
| Tonio_ | we have to follow how opensuse, mandriva etc... are dealing with this | 03:52 |
| Tonio_ | seya | 03:52 |
| mhb | hello everyone | 03:55 |
| mhb | hi seele | 03:55 |
| Lure | Tonio_: we do not need your change - it is ok in SVN | 03:56 |
| Hobbsee | jdong: what i said was "it's a result of this, it's already been fixed in kde4" - you know, it's a really bad idea to read someone's text, then interpret it however you like, then blame them constantly. | 03:56 |
| Lure | Tonio_: and kde-guidance-powermanager needs to depend on kde-guidance | 03:56 |
| mhb | hi Hobbsee, I noticed you poked me | 03:56 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: hum not that I've seen | 03:56 |
| Lure | Tonio_: and kde-guidance does not need to depend on python-dbus | 03:56 |
| Lure | Tonio_: all needed icons are in SVN - I just do not know how you create your tar ball - it is missing some files in powermanager/icons | 03:57 |
| abattoir | hi everyone too :) | 03:57 |
| mhb | abattoir: glad to see you | 03:57 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: yeah I changed that to make it clear | 03:57 |
| Lure | Tonio_: like processor.png, ac-adaptor.png which are there forever | 03:57 |
| abattoir | mhb: I noticed you poked me :P | 03:58 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: you have all the icons, but you don't use it | 03:58 |
| Tonio_ | lemme give you a diff | 03:58 |
| Hobbsee | hey mhb. i'll repoke later | 03:58 |
| Lure | Tonio_: I think that tarbal should be SVN as-is | 03:58 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: I added them back in my today's upload, my fault indeed | 03:58 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: icons/ is a hudge mess........ | 03:58 |
| Tonio_ | why not make it clean once and for all ? | 03:58 |
| Lure | Tonio_: and you have .svn dirs (use svn export instead of svn co) | 03:58 |
| Hobbsee | jdong: now you see why i wasnt about to somehow make a patch out of the listed solution there - it's more complicated than first looks | 03:58 |
| Lure | Tonio_: not anymore - I have removed everyhting that is not needed | 03:59 |
| Lure | Tonio_: only needed .png is there and all valid .svg's | 03:59 |
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| Lure | Tonio_: there is still icons/png dir which we probably do not need anymore, but I need to talk with sebas before nuking it | 03:59 |
| Lure | main is frozen already :-( | 04:00 |
| Lure | Riddell: we will need exception for this one I think | 04:00 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: you miss icons under icons/ | 04:01 |
| Tonio_ | all the icons for charging/discharging are under icons/png | 04:01 |
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| Tonio_ | but important icons are under icons, like ac-adapter and processor | 04:01 |
| Lure | Tonio_: no, they are duplicated - both in icons and icons/png | 04:01 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: look at my latest tarball | 04:01 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: NO ! ;) you miss charging-80 for example | 04:02 |
| Tonio_ | http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/42 | 04:02 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: and concerning the changes I'm doing, here they are | 04:02 |
| Tonio_ | you also miss 80% there | 04:02 |
| Lure | Tonio_: charging-80 is not used in code ;-) | 04:02 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: that's the change I'm doing | 04:02 |
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| Lure | Tonio_: I have seen your diff, it is just obsolete | 04:02 |
| Tonio_ | 85 -> 75 -> 60 | 04:02 |
| Tonio_ | where is the logic behind ? | 04:03 |
| Lure | Tonio_: we do not have 80% icon - that is | 04:03 |
| Lure | ;-) | 04:03 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: it is in icons/png | 04:03 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: that's why it is messy | 04:03 |
| Lure | Tonio_: it is not! | 04:03 |
| Lure | Tonio_: at least not in SVN | 04:03 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: it was in my previous upload ;) | 04:04 |
| Lure | Tonio_: it might be in your tar, but I do not know how you got it | 04:04 |
| Tonio_ | I added the icon and the changes in the python file :) | 04:04 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: I made it | 04:04 |
| Lure | Tonio_: it might, but it was wrong icon | 04:04 |
| Lure | ;-) | 04:04 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: okay let's make it clear | 04:04 |
| Lure | ok, at least it is clear now ;-) | 04:04 |
| Tonio_ | are you okay if I prepare a tar archive with : | 04:04 |
| Tonio_ | all charging/discharging icons | 04:05 |
| Tonio_ | my changes on the code to use them | 04:05 |
| Tonio_ | and clean icons structure | 04:05 |
| Lure | Tonio_: yes, if 80% is not there (as we do not have .svg for it) | 04:05 |
| Tonio_ | I sum up the changes via an email and you sync if you are okay with them right ? | 04:05 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: no need of svn for those icons, they are pure bitmap ones.... | 04:05 |
| Lure | Tonio_: just use SVN and pakcage battery*.png processor.png ac-adpater.png from icons/ and you are done | 04:05 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: will do but are you okay for my changes if I'm doing that way ? | 04:06 |
| Lure | Tonio_: but then we have build dep on inkscape | 04:06 |
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| Lure | Tonio_: small icons are very tricky for svg->png conversion (rendering) | 04:06 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: we are not building icons via svg file..... the svg files are old ones | 04:06 |
| Tonio_ | that's why we need to clean this ! | 04:07 |
| Tonio_ | the new icons don't have svg files, they are pure bitmap | 04:07 |
| Lure | Tonio_: no, they are only new in upt-to-date svn - do not look at your tar ball! | 04:07 |
| Lure | ;-) | 04:07 |
| Tonio_ | I'm looking at the svn ! | 04:07 |
| Lure | Tonio_: new icons have .svg! | 04:07 |
| Tonio_ | no ! ;) | 04:07 |
| Tonio_ | look at the files ! | 04:08 |
| Tonio_ | svg and png are not the same | 04:08 |
| Lure | Tonio_: _1 to _9 icons are new from kwwii | 04:08 |
| Tonio_ | argh ! | 04:08 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: we can't have 3 version of the icons in the same folder......... | 04:08 |
| Lure | Tonio_: just open them with Inkscape (konq cannot render them for some reason) | 04:08 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: okay but can you then remove all the old ones from the svn to make it clear ? | 04:09 |
| Lure | Tonio_: I know, but we care only about .png for packaging, so I do not see what is the problem | 04:09 |
| Tonio_ | battery-charging-040.svg that's n-2 version | 04:09 |
| Tonio_ | battery-charging-040.png -> n-1 | 04:09 |
| Lure | Tonio_: I can cleanup svn, but I need to talk with sebas and kwwii if this is ok | 04:09 |
| Tonio_ | battery-charging_1.svg -> n | 04:09 |
| Tonio_ | that's a hudge mess ;) how can I follow this ? | 04:10 |
| Lure | Tonio_: I have cleaned up all .png on icons/ so that we can have a simple rule that we need all .png from icons/*.png | 04:10 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: and shouldn't we have png in the svn directly instead of converting during the build ? | 04:10 |
| Lure | Tonio_: no need to follow .svg ;-) | 04:10 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: sure, but well svg+png is very common in tarballs :) | 04:10 |
| Lure | Tonio_: we do not convert .svg during the build - it is there for artists only | 04:10 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: okay se what is the point ? | 04:11 |
| Tonio_ | how do we get the png icons ? | 04:11 |
| sebas | Lure: Sure, go ahead | 04:11 |
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| Lure | Tonio_: sure they can be in tar ball (it should be everything that svn export gives you) | 04:11 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: okay that's great | 04:11 |
| Lure | sebas: so it is OK to remove old .svg and png dir? | 04:11 |
| sebas | Yes | 04:11 |
| Lure | sebas: I wil do it now to make Tonio happy ;-) | 04:11 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: and also a 80% icon would be nice, I'll look in doing it (very easy) | 04:11 |
| sebas | That'd be nice | 04:11 |
| Lure | Tonio_: and sorry for confusion | 04:12 |
| sebas | Sorry for making it such a mess in the first place. | 04:12 |
| Tonio_ | to make the steps logic instead of 85->75->60>50 | 04:12 |
| Tonio_ | are you okay on that point ? | 04:12 |
| Lure | Tonio_: we do not need it - you dont see the diff with the eye anyhow (too small) | 04:12 |
| Lure | Tonio_: we could drop some more even | 04:12 |
| Lure | ;-) | 04:12 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: well the step between 75 ans 60 is a bit violent to me :) | 04:12 |
| sebas | Right, we made it to work well visually, not arithmetically :) | 04:12 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: I saw that using the app, but maybe I'm just a stupid paranoid | 04:13 |
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| Tonio_ | ;) | 04:13 |
| Lure | Tonio_: talk with artists than - we can not fix this for Herd2 | 04:13 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: sure | 04:13 |
| Lure | ac-adapter.png is also from other planet (ugly), but that what we have now | 04:13 |
| Tonio_ | okay so it is tool late for herd2, but I'm waiting for the svn and I will do a clean package then ;) | 04:13 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: sorry for the issue | 04:14 |
| Lure | Tonio_: pinheiro will work on it (I just need to send him an e-mail - I will mention also 80% gap) | 04:14 |
| pinheiro | yep | 04:14 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: great so that we can apply my patch the py code to go in a 10% step | 04:14 |
| Lure | Tonio_: we at least need to fix crash on startup - why it is too late? We can ask for exception. Riddell? | 04:14 |
| pinheiro | hope its not urgent im swaped with work | 04:14 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: I uploaded this | 04:14 |
| Tonio_ | quickly done today | 04:15 |
| Lure | pinheiro: no urgency - until feisty release ;-) | 04:15 |
| Riddell | Lure: I'm happy for it | 04:15 |
| pinheiro | how do you guys like the development in oxygen? | 04:15 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: the package isn't perfect, next will fix deps etc.... but it works | 04:15 |
| pinheiro | becoming less black :P | 04:15 |
| Riddell | pinheiro: yay :) | 04:15 |
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| Tonio_ | Lure: thanks for making it clear to me this time :) | 04:16 |
| Lure | pinheiro: great! | 04:16 |
| Jucato | pinheiro: hooray! :) | 04:16 |
| pinheiro | dont need t be this hapy :P | 04:16 |
| Tonio_ | pinheiro: very, very good :) | 04:16 |
| pinheiro | yea im hapy to so... | 04:16 |
| pinheiro | :) | 04:16 |
| pinheiro | any way trying to get the core action icons done this week | 04:17 |
| Riddell | pinheiro: when do you think I can put oxygen icons into kdelibs trunk? | 04:19 |
| pinheiro | can we wait to the end of the week i hope that by then i will have the core actions mostly done | 04:19 |
| pinheiro | Riddell: 3700 icons somthing must be wrong | 04:20 |
| pinheiro | im my wildest dreams i counted arround 2000 | 04:21 |
| Riddell | pinheiro: if I can do it this weekend that would work out nicely | 04:21 |
| pinheiro | ok | 04:21 |
| pinheiro | back to work then much to be done | 04:21 |
| Lure | Tonio_: removed icons/png dir and old .svg icons. Now we have right .png (for package) and only new .svg (for artists) | 04:23 |
| Lure | Tonio_: we can rename .svg names to match .png when artists will figure out 80% | 04:24 |
| Lure | Tonio_: ok? | 04:24 |
| Lure | Tonio_: if you can "svn export" again and prepare new package with all icons it would be great | 04:25 |
| Lure | Tonio_: I am sure Riddell can ask for freeze exception (as it fixes very visible bug for Live CD on laptop) | 04:25 |
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| Lure | Tonio_: sorry for all the mess and late minute changes | 04:27 |
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| Riddell | Tonio_: poke poke? | 04:50 |
| hunger | Riddell: You want to use oxygen icons with kde 3.x? | 04:56 |
| hunger | The oxygen icons guy at akademy said he'll change the license of the icons if he finds someone doing that. | 05:00 |
| pinheiro | hunger: me one of the oxygen guys | 05:00 |
| pinheiro | :) | 05:00 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ping ? | 05:01 |
| nixternal | Riddell: do you use svn+ssh with KDE SVN? For some reason my first couple of attempts at logging in didn't work, on the 3rd or 4th password attempt it worked | 05:01 |
| hunger | pinheiro: Great, so it is OK now to use those icons with non-kde4? | 05:01 |
| pinheiro | nope | 05:01 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: want me to prepare and upload a finally fixed guidance ? | 05:01 |
| pinheiro | :) | 05:01 |
| pinheiro | ridel is talking about k4 branch | 05:01 |
| hunger | pinheiro: Good:-) It would be a waste. | 05:01 |
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| nixternal | argh :) i was hoping for some new icon love for my lappy :) im using a nice, but silly icon pack from kde-look | 05:02 |
| Jucato | nixternal: what icon pack? | 05:02 |
| pinheiro | nixternal: use the one from svn from the oxygen guys :P | 05:02 |
| nixternal | i don't know. it is a collab project where the guy took icons from multiple packs and made one pack | 05:03 |
| pinheiro | but i find you using it i will be forced to kill you :P | 05:03 |
| Jucato | ah hm :) | 05:03 |
| nixternal | hehe | 05:03 |
| nixternal | pinheiro: i am not a windows user, so i dont' use stuff "illegally" anymore :) | 05:03 |
| pinheiro | oo its not ilegal | 05:03 |
| pinheiro | im just joking | 05:04 |
| pinheiro | read the licence | 05:04 |
| pinheiro | you can use it | 05:04 |
| nixternal | well then, guess i will have to do something then :) | 05:04 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: yes please | 05:04 |
| Riddell | hunger: kdelibs trunk is KDE 4 | 05:05 |
| pinheiro | Riddell: maybe you know this example icon what is that one | 05:05 |
| pinheiro | you marked it as unknow | 05:05 |
| Riddell | pinheiro: in icons.ods? I wasn't sure | 05:06 |
| pinheiro | yep | 05:06 |
| Riddell | I never found it | 05:06 |
| pinheiro | the fact is that i cant find it any were | 05:06 |
| Riddell | I think it's a figment of aseigo's imagination | 05:06 |
| pinheiro | hehehhehee | 05:07 |
| pinheiro | will talk to him them | 05:07 |
| pinheiro | my head was going into mush over this ones | 05:08 |
| nixternal | wasn't there something about that in the latest kde commit digest? | 05:09 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: currently building. I'm testing everything and that should be okay. I also fixed the deps as lure noticed minor issues | 05:10 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: guidance uploaded | 05:20 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: got a debdiff? | 05:20 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: tarball is different..... | 05:24 |
| Tonio_ | lots of changes in binary files (png/svg) | 05:24 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: you need this for Mithrandir ? | 05:25 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: I have a debdiff, but due to svn changes, removall etc.... the content is about 6.5 MB | 05:29 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: not sure that will help a lot | 05:29 |
| Tonio_ | also lots of changes since my previous upload had svn datas in it (my fault) | 05:30 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: do you know what lure fixed for the crash? | 05:31 |
| sebas | Riddell: # battery critical and lid actions. | 05:32 |
| sebas | - self._setCB(self.BatteryCriticalCombo, self.cb_act, self.cb_act_def_critical, self._checkOldConfig(self.config.readEntry("batteryCriticalAction"), False)) | 05:32 |
| sebas | + self._setCB(self.BatteryCriticalCombo, self.cb_act, self.cb_act_def_critical, self._checkOldConfig(self.config.readEntry("batteryCriticalAction", ""), False)) | 05:32 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: unfortunatelly no | 05:32 |
| sebas | self.LaptopLidRadios.setButton(self.config.readNumEntry("laptopLidAction", 0)) #default None | 05:32 |
| sebas | Rather trivial thing | 05:32 |
| sebas | (Default value for something that's read from kconfig) | 05:33 |
| sebas | Would've been a regression, and it's really a one-liner | 05:33 |
| sebas | And it's critical since it breaks all fresh installs | 05:34 |
| Riddell | ok, cool | 05:35 |
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| Riddell | Tonio_: guidance accepted | 05:43 |
| sebas | Cool! | 05:43 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: thanks | 05:43 |
| sebas | Thanks | 05:43 |
| Riddell | well, thanks for fixing it :) | 05:44 |
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| nixternal | wo0t on guidance! | 05:50 |
| nixternal | my last lappy and guidance didn't agree w/ each other, my new lappy and guidance are in love with each other | 05:50 |
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| nixternal | ../../include/QtGui/private/../../../src/gui/kernel/qt_x11_p.h:50:22: error: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory | 06:31 |
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| nixternal | this begins the errors in building tq-copy from svn, any ideas? | 06:31 |
| nixternal | qt-copy that is | 06:32 |
| crimsun | and you have satisified the b-ds? | 06:32 |
| nixternal | i have gotten most of them, which b-ds would that be? | 06:33 |
| crimsun | ok, and libx11-dev is correctly installed? | 06:34 |
| nixternal | :) | 06:37 |
| nixternal | installing now | 06:37 |
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| nixternal | thank you sir! | 06:39 |
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| toma | is transparent and translucent the same? | 06:40 |
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| zorglu_ | q. is the log of the yesterday #ubuntu-meeting available from the web ? if so, any hint on how to find it ? | 07:55 |
| kwwii | good question | 07:56 |
| kwwii | if it is not available I have a log from it | 07:56 |
| kwwii | well, not the whole thing because I had to go to bed | 07:56 |
| kwwii | but most of it | 07:56 |
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| nixternal | http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ | 07:57 |
| zorglu_ | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/Kubuntu <- the official stuff seems quite obsolete | 07:57 |
| zorglu_ | ok thanks | 07:57 |
| nixternal | qt just completed | 08:00 |
| nixternal | 1hr 20min, not to shabby | 08:01 |
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| Lure | Tonio_: thanks for kde-guidance, but it seem we have another problem now: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/972/ | 08:07 |
| Lure | :-( | 08:07 |
| Lure | Tonio_: not sure how 32-wine.png would get into this package | 08:07 |
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| yuriy | Lure: it shouldn't be in the ubuntu package | 08:07 |
| Lure | yuriy: why not? | 08:08 |
| Lure | yuriy: and why it is in powermanager package - it should not be there either ;-) | 08:08 |
| yuriy | Lure: because it's not done *blush* | 08:08 |
| yuriy | no, it shouldn't be in any ubuntu packages, it should be separate but it's not done | 08:08 |
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| Lure | yuriy: ok | 08:09 |
| === Lure downloading source to check | ||
| yuriy | it should be in wineconfig | 08:09 |
| yuriy | don't know how it would have gotten in some other folder | 08:09 |
| yuriy | oh it might be in setup script... probably shouldn't have put that in there that early.. but i don't think the packages use that | 08:10 |
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| Lure | Tonio_ (or Riddell): it only needs simple packaging fix: ftp://lure@lure.lu.funpic.de/kubuntu/feisty/kde-guidance.debdiff | 08:23 |
| Lure | now all icons are where they should be and it does not crash on startup | 08:23 |
| Lure | or any other core-dev (raphink, imbrandon) ^^^ ;-) | 08:30 |
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| Tonio_ | Lure: asks me for password | 08:54 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: what is the fix ? | 08:54 |
| Lure | Tonio_: sorry: http://lure.lu.funpic.de/kubuntu/feisty/kdebase16.debdiff | 08:55 |
| Lure | (wrong paste) | 08:55 |
| Lure | Tonio_: http://lure.lu.funpic.de/kubuntu/feisty/kde-guidance.debdiff | 08:55 |
| Lure | ;-) | 08:55 |
| Lure | Tonio_: issue was that the source dir at the time of package has combination of icons from guidance and powermanager and *.png took all | 08:56 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: right....... looks like I really lack concerntration nowadays...... | 08:56 |
| Tonio_ | yeah I know, that's obvious....... shame on me | 08:57 |
| Lure | Tonio_: no problem, I pushed a crashing code yesterday in ;-) | 08:57 |
| Tonio_ | yeah but that's not the first error I'm doing today | 08:58 |
| Tonio_ | at least the 3rd | 08:58 |
| Lure | Tonio_: some days are like that ;-) | 09:05 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: uploaded, no idea if that'll get approved | 09:05 |
| Lure | Tonio_: I hope so, otherwise they will not have LiveCD ;-) | 09:06 |
| Lure | Tonio_: you should probably notify Mithrandir in #ubuntu-devel (as others ar doing) | 09:07 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: hehe indeed | 09:07 |
| Tonio_ | hard day today......... I think I should leave the computer since I can't seem to do something without bullshits in it | 09:11 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: mithrandir pinged, I'm waiting for a response | 09:13 |
| Lure | Tonio_: thanks | 09:13 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: any indea how to install a new language now ? | 09:17 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: language selector is out of the kmenu here.... | 09:17 |
| Lure | Tonio_: it should be in Regional&Language, but Riddell has lost the patch :-( | 09:17 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: hehe, so it is simply not accessible now ? ;) great, I'm not crazy | 09:18 |
| Tonio_ | yeah I remember he did something in the kcm language selector | 09:19 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: did he publish that ? we should be able to find the package on launchpad no ? unless that only was on his hdd ? | 09:19 |
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| Lure | Tonio_: jsut run /usr/bin/qt-language-selector | 09:20 |
| Lure | Tonio_: it was never uploaded as it seems to (losts on Riddell's computer) | 09:20 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: yeah that's what I've done :) | 09:20 |
| Lure | Tonio_: or the screenshots at Herd2 page are just mockup from Krita ;-) | 09:20 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: argh :) | 09:21 |
| Tonio_ | vaporware is evil you know ! | 09:21 |
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| kwwii | dude, do you really believe anyone making mockups would do it with krita? | 09:37 |
| kwwii | :p | 09:37 |
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| nixternal | kwwii is right, i did those mockups with mspaint :) | 09:44 |
| nixternal | i wondered the same thing, everything that is supposedly removed isn't, they are all right there still, but i think that is due to the updates instead of installing directly from a Herd 2 cd | 09:44 |
| gnomefreak | kde-guidance-powermanager might not install | 09:46 |
| gnomefreak | i used smartpm (it works out things) but looks like apt will have issues with it not overwriting | 09:46 |
| kwwii | :p | 09:47 |
| gnomefreak | its trying to overwrite /usr/share/apps/guidance/pics/32-wine.png | 09:47 |
| gnomefreak | i cant tell if it worked for me or not it ends in error code 1 but dpkg --configure -a doesnt set anything up. (just a warning) | 09:48 |
| Tonio_ | gnomefreak: that's fixed.... well uploaded at least :) | 09:50 |
| Tonio_ | gnomefreak: we just need to wait for mithrandir to approve | 09:50 |
| gnomefreak | k | 09:50 |
| gnomefreak | its all good i just didnt know if it was known i knew guidance was a package you wanted to get in this morning | 09:51 |
| gnomefreak | the one ending in 0ubuntu1 was the fixed version? | 09:52 |
| gnomefreak | if so it was acked by the looks of it | 09:52 |
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| gnomefreak | ah same one | 09:53 |
| Lure | gnomefreak: fixed version has 0ubuntu2 version | 09:58 |
| gnomefreak | i saw its the same version smart just re downloads it | 10:01 |
| Lure | gnomefreak: if you cannot wait, you can use this debdiff: http://lure.lu.funpic.de/kubuntu/feisty/kde-guidance.debdiff | 10:04 |
| Lure | ;-) | 10:04 |
| gnomefreak | oh i already fixed it :) | 10:04 |
| gnomefreak | --force-overwrite :( | 10:04 |
| Lure | btw, anybody working on k3b 1.0rc? seaLne maybe? | 10:05 |
| Riddell | Lure: I uploaded it yesterday | 10:08 |
| Lure | Riddell: where? nothing in feisty-updates | 10:09 |
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| Riddell | kdebase_3.5.5a.dfsg.1-1ubuntu16_source.changes Rejected | 10:09 |
| Riddell | bah | 10:09 |
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| Riddell | oh well, after herd 2 then | 10:09 |
| Lure | Riddell: no pb, I just thought it would be nice to test it... | 10:10 |
| gnomefreak | that was updated | 10:11 |
| gnomefreak | i have that version of kdebase | 10:11 |
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| Lure | Riddell: true - I also have that kdebase - are you talking about k3b? | 10:16 |
| Lure | Riddell: k3b is separate source (0.12.17) | 10:17 |
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| Lure | looks familiar: http://blogs.gnome.org/view/rodrigo/2007/01/08/0 ;-) | 10:44 |
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| Lure | Tonio_: kde-guidance accepted! | 11:03 |
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| Tonio_ | Lure: great good news | 11:15 |
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| allee | I've talked with upstream about digikam 0.9.1 release date and kubuntu upstream freeze on 15th. They suggested 1 Feb beta, 8 Feb rc and final 14th. sounds this reasonable? or should I ask for some days more for testing? | 11:22 |
| allee | Riddell: ^^ | 11:23 |
| Lure | allee: I would suppose if we have rc in before freeze, that we would be allowed to get UVF for released version | 11:25 |
| Lure | allee: but it is Riddell to tell.. ;-) | 11:26 |
| allee | Lure: sounds reasonable | 11:27 |
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| ryanakca | hm... when is feisty released? 07/04/01? | 11:55 |
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