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| kiko | mpt, nobody but the DBA can delete product series | 01:10 |
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| kiko | fujitsu: did you get some launchpad team membership email? | 01:11 |
| mdke | Lemming of the DBA | 01:11 |
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| jamesh | hi kiko | 01:17 |
| poolie | hi kiko | 01:18 |
| poolie | and jamesh | 01:18 |
| kiko | hey jamesh | 01:18 |
| kiko | hey poolie | 01:18 |
| jamesh | I checked with the Brazilian Embassy, and they said they mailed my passport back today | 01:18 |
| jamesh | I was getting a bit worried because I'd sent it to them on the 14th December | 01:19 |
| kiko | jamesh, it's brazil. you know how it works. | 01:23 |
| jamesh | kiko: the telephone number for visa enquiries is only open 2 hours a day | 01:23 |
| jamesh | for me it is from 7am to 9am | 01:23 |
| kiko | that would require me take a phone to my morning bike ride which is most inconvenient | 01:24 |
| jamesh | (these are people in Canberra -- not Brazil | 01:24 |
| kiko | I know. I am just putting myself in your place | 01:24 |
| kiko | however | 01:25 |
| kiko | the embassy is not in canberra | 01:25 |
| jamesh | ? | 01:25 |
| kiko | it is in a brazilian plot of land within the canberra city limits | 01:25 |
| LarstiQ | :) | 01:25 |
| kiko | you keep your hands off my embassy | 01:25 |
| kiko | when we visit the australian embassy in brasilia it reminds us in big bold capitals that we are on australian soil | 01:25 |
| jamesh | it would be a 4-5 hour plane flight for me to get my hands on that plot of land | 01:26 |
| kiko | I spoke of hands figuratively | 01:26 |
| jamesh | yeah :) | 01:26 |
| jamesh | I wish .au would get rid of the visa requirement for Brazilians | 01:26 |
| jamesh | that way Brazil would get rid of the requirement for Australians | 01:26 |
| kiko | we would indeed | 01:26 |
| kiko | but I'm concerned about all the australians flocking for jobs to brazil | 01:27 |
| kiko | taking over our beaches | 01:27 |
| kiko | eating all our food | 01:27 |
| jamesh | but you don't mind kiwis like mpt getting in visa free? | 01:27 |
| kiko | you know what I mean | 01:27 |
| kiko | jamesh, be honest to yourself. how many people are there actually in NZ? mpt, his mom, dad, two sisters and the president. | 01:28 |
| jamesh | thumper too | 01:28 |
| jamesh | and a lot of sheep | 01:28 |
| kiko | thumper just moved in and wasn't included in the census | 01:28 |
| spiv | jamesh: even in NZ sheep don't get passports, though :) | 01:28 |
| kiko | i'm not concerned about the job market for sheep | 01:28 |
| jamesh | spiv: they don't generally need them to travel internationally | 01:28 |
| jamesh | lucky sheep | 01:29 |
| kiko | though it is true that sheep can ruin beaches and eat copious amounts of food | 01:29 |
| kiko | what was this conversation about again? | 01:29 |
| kiko | ah yes | 01:29 |
| kiko | let me know if the embassy doesn't send your passport | 01:29 |
| kiko | and I will talk to the embassy here to see wtf is wrong with those slackers | 01:30 |
| jamesh | it should be here by the end of the week | 01:30 |
| mpt | kiko, New Zealand has a president?? | 01:30 |
| kiko | mpt, oh, so it's just the 5 of you, thumper and the sheep? | 01:30 |
| mpt | No, no, my third sister can be the president | 01:31 |
| mpt | She's studying politics | 01:31 |
| ajmitch | poor girl | 01:31 |
| jamesh | and the kiwi birds/fruit | 01:31 |
| jamesh | and ajmitch | 01:31 |
| Fujitsu_ | kiko, pong? | 01:31 |
| kiko | how can anybody try to convince anyone that they are studying politics. your parents are 0wned | 01:31 |
| kiko | Fujitsu_, yes, I'd like to know if you got any launchpad membership email? | 01:32 |
| kiko | man vmware over remote X doesn't start up for me | 01:32 |
| kiko | how disgusting | 01:32 |
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| Fujitsu_ | Not for a couple of days... FOr any team in particular? | 01:32 |
| mpt | kiko, we think she actually plans a career as a spy | 01:33 |
| kiko | mpt, that's more like it. I know just the person for her to talk to. | 01:33 |
| mpt | kiko knows people who know people | 01:33 |
| jamesh | maybe she'll take up the option for New Zealand to become a state of Australia | 01:35 |
| jamesh | according to our constitution, NZ can do that | 01:35 |
| kiko | I knew jamesh was going to go for the low blow | 01:37 |
| jamesh | I already mentioned NZ and sheep | 01:37 |
| mdke | NZ isn't a state of Australia? | 01:37 |
| jamesh | mdke: for some reason they want to stay independent | 01:37 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #78522 in launchpad-bazaar "xmlrpc failure shouldn't include exception details" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78522 | 01:40 |
| jamesh | mdke: New Zealand is like 2 timezones east of Australia | 01:41 |
| mpt | NZ used to be a state of Australia | 01:43 |
| mpt | then we grew up | 01:43 |
| mdke | jamesh: doesn't stop hawaii | 01:44 |
| mdke | or France, which is one time zone east of England | 01:44 |
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| mpt | Oh, cool: https://launchpad.net/amu | 02:01 |
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| mpt | [Hobbsee] ... #ubuntu-au | 03:31 |
| mpt | that explains it | 03:31 |
| Hobbsee | mpt: um, OK :) | 03:33 |
| mpt | (that was a quote from /whois, if you were wondering) | 03:36 |
| Hobbsee | ahhh... | 03:39 |
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| Bhaskar | jamesh:hello | 05:28 |
| jamesh | hi Bhaskar | 05:29 |
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| Bhaskar | jamesh: i think u are aslo programmer | 05:30 |
| jamesh | yep. | 05:30 |
| jamesh | so, it looks like Python hasn' | 05:35 |
| jamesh | t switched bug trackers yety | 05:35 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #78545 in launchpad "Launchpad config should be reset back to default after each test" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78545 | 07:00 |
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| carlos | morning! | 09:18 |
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| matthewrevell_ | carlos: morning :) | 09:28 |
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| carlos | matthewrevell: hey | 09:30 |
| jkelly_ | morning guys, does anyone know if the malone xml rpc integration with python exists? | 09:31 |
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| lifeless | jkelly_: what do you mean? | 09:33 |
| jkelly_ | is there a file bug api for launchpad in python? | 09:40 |
| jkelly_ | https://help.launchpad.net/MaloneXMLRPC | 09:40 |
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| BjornT | jkelly_: what exactly are you looking for? the MaloneXMLRPC document describes how to file a bug from python. | 09:49 |
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| jkelly_ | BjornT: sorry, i understand what i have to do now, thanks anyway :) | 09:56 |
| BjornT | cool :) | 09:56 |
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| carlos | BjornT: ping | 10:01 |
| BjornT | hi carlos | 10:01 |
| carlos | BjornT: hi, could you do a fast review for me? it's related with the discussion we had on Friday about escape chars and getting the right encoding | 10:02 |
| carlos | s/escape/escaped/ | 10:03 |
| BjornT | carlos: sure. is it carlos/launchpad/bug-67138? | 10:07 |
| carlos | BjornT: https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/pending-reviews/carlos/launchpad/bug-67138/full-diff | 10:07 |
| carlos | BjornT: yes | 10:07 |
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| BjornT | ok, i'll take a look at it now. | 10:08 |
| carlos | BjornT: cool, thanks | 10:09 |
| jkelly_ | BjornT: would i have to do authentication myself? since it does not exist https://launchpad.net/malone/+bug/57742 | 10:14 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 57742 in malone "xmlrpc filebug API raises TypeError exception" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Bjrn Tillenius (bjornt) | 10:14 |
| BjornT | jkelly_: yes, you need to specify your username and password, using a URL like https://your@email.com:yourpassword@xmlrpc.launchpad.net/bugs/ | 10:16 |
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| sabdfl | greetings lunchpadders! | 11:00 |
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| cprov | good morning, folks | 11:07 |
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| WebMaven | lunchpadders? | 11:25 |
| WebMaven | Is that where you go to eat a meal in orbit? | 11:25 |
| WebMaven | sabdfl: are you coming to PyCon? | 11:26 |
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| sabdfl | WebMaven: no, but i believe stevea and static are | 11:33 |
| WebMaven | Cool. | 11:34 |
| cprov | stub: ping | 11:34 |
| stub | cprov: pong | 11:34 |
| WebMaven | sabdfl: Is Canonical going to sponsor the conference? | 11:35 |
| cprov | stub: hi, which wiki page did you mean for "partial production db snapshots" ? | 11:35 |
| SteveA | WebMaven: Canonical is not directly sponsoring pycon. We did just get provisionally accepted as PSF sponsors. | 11:43 |
| SteveA | to be approved by a members' vote at pycon. | 11:43 |
| SteveA | http://www.python.org/psf/records/members/2007-02-23/ | 11:43 |
| WebMaven | Oh, as a sponsor *member*, OK. | 11:44 |
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| WebMaven | That's very cool. | 11:46 |
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| WebMaven | PyCon sponsorship needn't be expensive. A bag-insert sponsorship can be had for $200, for example: http://us.pycon.org/TX2007/HowToSponsor | 11:48 |
| SteveA | WebMaven: that's an interesting idea. | 11:53 |
| SteveA | I want to get python developers to take a look at bazaar | 11:53 |
| SteveA | if you went to pycon and found a leaflet about bazaar in your conference pack, how would you feel? | 11:54 |
| WebMaven | depends on what it said, I guess. | 11:55 |
| WebMaven | A silver sponsorship gets you priority for Lightning Talks | 11:56 |
| WebMaven | BTW, inserts don't have to be printed materials. | 12:01 |
| SteveA | thanks for the suggestions. I'll have a think about this one. | 12:07 |
| WebMaven | You're welcome. I hope to see you there. | 12:08 |
| stub | cprov: The one for your spec that you referenced in the email (the Soyuz test environment one I think) | 12:09 |
| cprov | stub: Oh, sorry I misunderstood you then, I was thinking about some kind of work-in-progress specific spec for this. No problem, I will work in a draft blacklist. Thank you. | 12:13 |
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| xdatap | hi there | 12:37 |
| matthewrevell | xdatap: Hello | 12:37 |
| xdatap | seems today's recount of karma doesn't worked | 12:38 |
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| matthewrevell | xdatap: Your karma still total doesn't match the total of the separate amounts in each part of Launchpad? | 12:40 |
| xdatap | matthewrevell: yes. But it's the same of yesterday, but yesterday i worked on bugs | 12:40 |
| xdatap | so, probably the program that calculate the karma doesn't run today | 12:41 |
| matthewrevell | xdatap: Karma isn't updated immediately and can take up to two or three days. | 12:41 |
| mattl | LP has karma? | 12:41 |
| xdatap | matthewrevell: oh, 2 or 3. I'm thinking the calculate was daily | 12:42 |
| matthewrevell | xdatap: Check tomorrow and your total should be updated. | 12:42 |
| xdatap | matthewrevell: ok, thanks | 12:43 |
| matthewrevell | xdatap: No problem :) | 12:43 |
| xdatap | i go, bye | 12:44 |
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| matthewrevell | mattl: Yeah, it's a way to give a rough idea of how much each person has done. | 12:45 |
| mattl | ah, so how do you get karma? | 12:46 |
| matthewrevell | mattl: Reporting a bug, translating some text, updating a blueprint. Just about anything really. | 12:46 |
| mattl | can you lose it? | 12:46 |
| matthewrevell | mattl: Not that I know of. | 12:47 |
| mattl | okay. thanks :) | 12:47 |
| matthewrevell | mattl: I think it degrades, over time, so you need to remain active to retain a high level. | 12:47 |
| mattl | ahh, that makes sense. | 12:48 |
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| mattl | matthewrevell: having fun in the new job? | 12:48 |
| matthewrevell | mattl: Yeah :) Lots and lots to learn and I will never be stuck for something to do, which is good :) | 12:49 |
| mattl | you're the Launchpad marketing manager? | 12:49 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 12:50 |
| matthewrevell | mattl: That's one thing you could call it. My job is like a mix of what Jono does for Ubuntu, with marketing and communications thrown in | 12:50 |
| matthewrevell | mattl: I'm the Launchpad community/communications/marketing bloke. :) | 12:50 |
| mattl | heh. | 12:50 |
| mattl | will we see Launchpad ads? | 12:51 |
| matthewrevell | mattl: Ads *for* Launchpad? There are no plans for traditional advertising at the moment, but never say never. | 12:51 |
| matthewrevell | mattl: You might see the occasional Google ad in the future, and there have been some in the past. | 12:53 |
| mattl | Actually, I'm not sure I see Google ads, but it could be an interesting one. | 12:53 |
| mattl | Further to our chat last week, I'm formulating ideas on how freedoms should apply to web applications. | 12:54 |
| matthewrevell | mattl: Cool, I'd love to read/hear your thoughts. | 12:54 |
| mattl | I'd be interested to know your feelings on the subject when I send it out. | 12:54 |
| matthewrevell | mattl: absolutely. Please put me on your list of people to see it :) | 12:54 |
| mattl | Heh, it's quite the list now. It seems a lot of people have an opinion on it. | 12:55 |
| mattl | Did you see Second Life now free software? | 12:56 |
| mattl | is now | 12:56 |
| matthewrevell | mattl: Yeah, that's pretty cool. We interviewed one of the Linden Labs guys on LugRadio a few months back and he mentioned they were considering/planning it. I didn't realise it was going to be so soon, though. | 12:57 |
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| mattl | Sooner the better, really. I'd like to see more games become free software. | 12:58 |
| mattl | I'm interested in the idea of writing a free software game for many platforms, but I'm not sure that the likes of Nintendo would accommodate such innovation. | 12:58 |
| matthewrevell | mattl: It's easier for Second Life to open their client, than a lot of games, though, because they're subscription based. | 12:59 |
| matthewrevell | mattl: Ever spoken to Pepsiman? He's ported Linux to the Nintendo DS | 12:59 |
| mattl | Second Life has a free-of-charge subscription, I believe. | 12:59 |
| mattl | I've been meaning to get GNU/Linux onto the DS. | 01:00 |
| mattl | I'd like to see it on the Wii. | 01:00 |
| matthewrevell | mattl: Yeah, but you buy Linden dollars to do stuff in the world, using real dollars. So, it's not reliant on people buying a boxed version of the game. | 01:00 |
| mattl | As the Wii has a standard SD Card reader, I can envisage where you could buy a free software loader, and then load games from the SD Card. | 01:01 |
| mattl | The loader would have to be on the regular sized disks. | 01:01 |
| mattl | Until someone works out a way to do it with just the SD Card. | 01:01 |
| matthewrevell | I'd best crack on, tbh. Look forward to seeing your document on software freedoms and web services. | 01:01 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #78562 in rosetta "Missing Firestarter translation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78562 | 01:15 |
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| static | hello launchpad! | 01:18 |
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| carlos | SteveA: ping | 01:22 |
| carlos | or kiko-zzz | 01:22 |
| SteveA | carlos: ? | 01:23 |
| carlos | SteveA: The people at https://launchpad.net/medibuntu/ have some .pot upload requests | 01:24 |
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| carlos | SteveA: I wonder whether they could be considered upstream in that context | 01:24 |
| carlos | I think so, but I would like to confirm it | 01:24 |
| carlos | SteveA: they are an Ubuntu derivative | 01:24 |
| SteveA | what a confusing name :-) I thought it would be medically-themed ubuntu | 01:25 |
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| carlos | and from what I see, the requests are for packages that are not included in Ubuntu already | 01:25 |
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| carlos | Multimedia, Entertainment & Distraction In Ubuntu | 01:25 |
| carlos | ;-) | 01:25 |
| SteveA | I don't really understand what you're asking me, and what the consequences of a decision are. | 01:26 |
| SteveA | I'm going for lunch now, can this wait until later? | 01:26 |
| carlos | sure | 01:26 |
| carlos | I will ping you later | 01:26 |
| SteveA | ok | 01:27 |
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| carlos | see you! | 01:35 |
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| kiko-zzz | hey carlos | 01:46 |
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| kiko | good morning | 01:46 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #78565 in launchpad "no direct link from bug comment page to corresponding bug" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78565 | 01:55 |
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| kiko | BjornT, ping? | 02:51 |
| BjornT | hi kiko | 02:51 |
| kiko | how's it going old man | 02:51 |
| BjornT | it's going good, working on implementing the malone side of the bug reporting tool. | 02:52 |
| kiko | cool -- mdz was asking me about that. is the cloakroom stuff working as expected? | 02:52 |
| BjornT | well, i haven't come that far yet, i'm still writing the tests. but i'd think it should work as expected. | 02:55 |
| kiko | BjornT, ah. what does the API for retrieving the blob look like? | 03:02 |
| BjornT | kiko: in python? it's ITemporaryStorageManager.fetch(token) | 03:06 |
| kiko | BjornT, and you get the content back as a string or something? | 03:06 |
| BjornT | kiko: almost. you get some object, and object.blob is the uploaded data as a string. | 03:07 |
| kiko | okay, sounds pretty simple. | 03:07 |
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| kiko | BjornT, and we do no parsing of the blob, right? just add it as an attachment and that's it? | 03:08 |
| BjornT | kiko: no, we will parse it, either append to the description, add as a comment, or add as an attachment. | 03:09 |
| kiko | BjornT, oh. so a very custom parse at that. how do we know what type the blob is? is there a signature or something? | 03:10 |
| BjornT | kiko: the blob is a multipart MIME message, so it's easy to parse. we know what to do with the different parts by looking at the Content-Disposition header for each part. | 03:11 |
| kiko | BjornT, my question is more how do we differentiate from different types of blob? | 03:11 |
| kiko | i.e. for future-proofing and also "spam"-proofing. | 03:11 |
| BjornT | there's only one type of blobs so far. if it's not a valid MIME message, we'll display an error message. this is done on the +filebug page, though. anything can still be uploaded, but only the +filebug page will be able to access them. | 03:13 |
| kiko | BjornT, yeah, I know, with a GET-informed token. | 03:15 |
| kiko | BjornT, what do we do when we have a second type of blob? I'd like at least some sort of identifiable signature somewhere somehow. can that be arranged? | 03:15 |
| BjornT | kiko: it'd be easy to add a custom header to mime message. something like X-Launchpad-Bug-Report-Info: 1.0 | 03:17 |
| kiko | BjornT, is the format highly ubuntu-specific or could, say, firefox or python use it? | 03:18 |
| BjornT | kiko: there's nothing ubuntu-specifict about it, so we could document it properly on help.launchpad.net and let any project use it. | 03:20 |
| kiko | BjornT, okay, I like both those ideas. maybe work with somebody to document the format so you don't have to? | 03:21 |
| BjornT | kiko: well, i'm going to document it anyway in the doctests. but i guess i could ask someone to look at the doctests and produce user documentation from that. | 03:23 |
| kiko | right | 03:24 |
| kiko | could matthewrevell do that I wonder? | 03:24 |
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| matthewrevell | kiko, BjornT: Yep, I can do that. | 03:27 |
| matthewrevell | BjornT: Let me know when you've got something you want me to look at. | 03:28 |
| matthewrevell | BjornT: Or if you want to write some notes, I can turn it into docs | 03:28 |
| kiko | it should be straightforward -- the doctests should provide the best notes possible | 03:28 |
| matthewrevell | kiko: So, the documentation is for an API that allows third party tools to report bugs directly into Malone? | 03:30 |
| BjornT | matthewrevell: cool. it's probably best to do it after the distro sprint, so don't expect anything before the beginning of february. | 03:30 |
| matthewrevell | BjornT: Okay, nice one. Just let me know when you need me. | 03:31 |
| kiko | matthewrevell, not exactly, but related. it's for a data format that a tool can upload and then give the user a handle that he can use when filing a bug to retrieve it. | 03:31 |
| kiko | matthewrevell, so I can upload a file containing a dump file and a traceback and some information about the environment | 03:31 |
| kiko | then with the handle I get back from launchpad | 03:32 |
| kiko | I can go in and file a bug and launchpad knows to pull the coat out of the cloakroom and attach it to your bug in a way that makes sense. | 03:32 |
| kiko | maybe the traceback and env info goes in a comment and the dump goes in as an attachment | 03:32 |
| matthewrevell | kiko: Right, I see, thanks. | 03:33 |
| kiko | matthewrevell, the upload is meant to be done by a tool, in the case of ubuntu, which will hand off to a +filebug in firefox | 03:33 |
| matthewrevell | kiko: Right. | 03:34 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #78577 in launchpad "Send notifications when a new member is added to a team" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78577 | 04:26 |
| kiko-fud | salgado, is that not done today? | 04:28 |
| salgado | kiko-fud, not when you use the +addmember page | 04:28 |
| kiko-fud | salgado, should the event not be triggered in the domain class instead to avoid this? | 04:29 |
| salgado | we don't have an event for that | 04:32 |
| salgado | what we have currently is notifications for status changes, not for addition of new members | 04:32 |
| kiko-fud | s/the event/an event? | 04:32 |
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| rolando-ve | hi | 06:32 |
| rolando-ve | I need a littel help | 06:32 |
| rolando-ve | mya anyone help me,please | 06:32 |
| rolando-ve | this is the case | 06:32 |
| rolando-ve | I did help to create the ubuntu-sv (ElSalvadorTeam) project in LaunchPad | 06:33 |
| salgado | rolando-ve, is that a project or a team? | 06:33 |
| rolando-ve | but when I did try to give the owern to the lider user of ElSalvador, the I dont know what happened a assign the owenr to other user | 06:34 |
| rolando-ve | a Team | 06:34 |
| rolando-ve | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sv | 06:34 |
| rolando-ve | now, I cant give the own to the correct user | 06:35 |
| rolando-ve | :( | 06:35 |
| rolando-ve | what can i do? | 06:35 |
| rolando-ve | Fritznl is the own now, and must be navnelson | 06:36 |
| rolando-ve | I mistake | 06:36 |
| salgado | rolando-ve, let me try to get somebody to fix this for you | 06:37 |
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| rolando-ve | salgado, thanks! | 06:37 |
| salgado | kiko-fud, can you change the owner of https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sv from 'na' to 'navnelson7'? | 06:37 |
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| kiko-fud | salgado, sure. | 06:45 |
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| kiko | rolando-ve, salgado: done. | 07:09 |
| rolando-ve | Thank you | 07:10 |
| rolando-ve | Thanks salgado , kiko | 07:10 |
| rolando-ve | see you | 07:11 |
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| jmedina | hello there | 07:13 |
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| jmedina | I just join to an launchpad group, and Im inviting some friends to ask their doubts there | 07:14 |
| jmedina | but I dont see any page where they can ask | 07:14 |
| jmedina | I only see the "Answers" page | 07:14 |
| carlos | jmedina: that page is associated with a product | 07:15 |
| carlos | jmedina: not teams | 07:15 |
| jmedina | ok | 07:15 |
| carlos | seems like what you want is a forum | 07:15 |
| carlos | but we don't have such feature | 07:15 |
| carlos | or a mailing list | 07:15 |
| jmedina | then, for example https://answers.launchpad.net/ | 07:16 |
| jmedina | who and how those answers were made? | 07:16 |
| jmedina | jeje | 07:16 |
| carlos | jmedina: that's for user support linked with a product or distribution | 07:16 |
| carlos | if you have a problem with Ubuntu, you open one and the developers will try to solve your problem | 07:17 |
| carlos | or with launchpad itself | 07:17 |
| carlos | is not exactly a forum | 07:17 |
| jmedina | yes, I know | 07:18 |
| jmedina | thanks I found the request support form | 07:18 |
| jmedina | and now I understand it | 07:18 |
| jmedina | thanks | 07:18 |
| carlos | np | 07:19 |
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| radix | If I want to request the ability to specify columns to display in bug listing tables, should I file a bug (I couldn't find any existing bugs about that) | 08:07 |
| kiko | that bug is already filed | 08:10 |
| radix | I must be searching for the wrong terms... | 08:12 |
| radix | kiko: do you know the number or at least some likely search terms to find it? :) | 08:12 |
| kiko | I'm looking | 08:12 |
| kiko | how weird | 08:15 |
| radix | maybe someone rejected it? | 08:15 |
| kiko | matsubara, help? | 08:18 |
| matsubara | kiko: maybe you're looking for you comment in bug https://launchpad.net/malone/+bug/3752 | 08:19 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 3752 in malone "Bug lists should provide a way to change the query" [Medium,Fix released] - Assigned to Brad Bollenbach (bradb) | 08:19 |
| matsubara | s/you comment/your comment/ | 08:19 |
| radix | that looks close | 08:20 |
| kiko | you know everything matsubara | 08:20 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #78596 in malone "Automatically handle moving duplicates across when duplicating a bug with dupes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78596 | 08:20 |
| kiko | radix, I'm amazed at the fact that the bug is perhaps not reported then | 08:20 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #78597 in launchpad-development-infrastructure "lpdebs needs graphviz-cairo package for dapper amd64" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78597 | 08:20 |
| matsubara | BjornT: shouldn't lp.net/malone/bugs/$bugid redirect to lp.net/bugs/$bugid? If yes, is there a bug filed on it? | 08:26 |
| BjornT | matsubara: do we have many 404 for such URLs? | 08:28 |
| matsubara | BjornT: I haven't checked the 404s, but all my old bugmail has the malone/bugs/$bugid url and would be nice to have that redirect to the bug instead of a 404 | 08:29 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #78598 in launchpad-development-infrastructure "import policy violations in gina" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78598 | 08:30 |
| radix | kiko: so then, should I file a different bug for it? | 08:31 |
| kiko | radix, yes, I think that's the only way to move forward in this quagmire | 08:31 |
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| kiko | hullo seb128 | 08:34 |
| radix | kiko: cool then. | 08:34 |
| seb128 | hey kiko | 08:34 |
| BjornT | matsubara: hmm. i guess it might be worth adding a redirect for it. | 08:35 |
| matsubara | BjornT: okie. I'll file a bug then. | 08:37 |
| seb128 | grumpf | 08:44 |
| seb128 | launchpad seems to eat the control-center uploads today | 08:44 |
| kiko | seb128, no warnings sent back? | 08:44 |
| kiko | cprov, ping? | 08:44 |
| cprov | kiko: pong | 08:44 |
| kiko | cprov, have a sec to look on mawson to see what's happening to seb's uploads? | 08:45 |
| seb128 | kiko: no, no mail, nothing | 08:45 |
| cprov | seb128: we had problems with gpg keys | 08:45 |
| cprov | kiko: drescher :) | 08:45 |
| seb128 | I've uploaded 2.17.5-0ubuntu1 for control-center some hours ago and no sign from it | 08:45 |
| cprov | seb128: I will check it again, no mail isn't expected. | 08:45 |
| seb128 | and no 2.17.5-0ubuntu2, same (not sure if I should upload the .orig.tar.gz again then)? | 08:46 |
| kiko | cprov, ah | 08:46 |
| seb128 | cprov: thank you | 08:46 |
| seb128 | I got other packages accepted during the day | 08:46 |
| seb128 | so it's not likely to be a problem with my key | 08:46 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #78602 in malone "Redirect /malone/bugs/$bugid to /bugs/$bugid" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78602 | 08:50 |
| cprov | seb128: it failed, indeed, by the gpg issue we had today -> GPG verification of control-center_2.17.5-0ubuntu1_source.changes failed: No public key | 08:51 |
| seb128 | cprov: what should I do? I uploaded a 2.17.5-0ubuntu2 some minutes ago | 08:52 |
| cprov | seb128: you can either re-upload it or request distro-guys to re-process it | 08:52 |
| seb128 | but without the orig | 08:52 |
| seb128 | should I upload -0ubuntu2 again but with the orig then? | 08:52 |
| seb128 | ok | 08:52 |
| seb128 | thank you | 08:52 |
| cprov | seb128: it also failed ... I guess, let me see | 08:53 |
| cprov | seb128: btw, we still having the *gpg issue* I thought it was gone ... | 08:54 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #78605 in launchpad-development-infrastructure "get rid of 'test left new threads behind' messages during 'make check'" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78605 | 08:56 |
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| kiko | radix, did you file it? | 08:59 |
| radix | kiko: I did. I don't know why it didn't show up here... #76808 | 09:00 |
| radix | er, #78608 | 09:00 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #78608 in malone "Allow specifying arbitrary columns in bug listings" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78608 | 09:01 |
| radix | heh | 09:01 |
| kiko | it takes 5 minutes | 09:01 |
| radix | oh, I guess the same lag as email? | 09:02 |
| seb128 | cprov: do you have a list of uploads that go rejected due to the gpg error? | 09:03 |
| seb128 | because without feedback we might not upload them again | 09:03 |
| kiko | radix, ubugtu gets bugmail! | 09:03 |
| radix | kiko: ahhh :) | 09:03 |
| seb128 | would be nice to get a rejected mail when that happens | 09:03 |
| cprov | seb128: that's a good idea, can get someone from distro-team either to build a list of suspicious failures or to re-process them | 09:05 |
| cprov | seb128: I'm working to find the cause of the problem and hopefully fix it ... | 09:05 |
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| seb128 | cprov: ok, I will ping Tollef about that | 09:07 |
| seb128 | after dinner | 09:07 |
| seb128 | dinner time for now ;) | 09:07 |
| cprov | seb128: okay, I will be here too | 09:08 |
| kiko | cprov, what do you think happened? | 09:08 |
| cprov | kiko: looks like unreachable keyserver, but gpgme debug is so poor | 09:08 |
| radix | gpgme is terrrrrible. | 09:09 |
| kiko | cprov, http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x6E63F4AA works from here, fwiw | 09:10 |
| cprov | kiko: right, but it doesn't inside p-u run, exits with 'No public key' | 09:11 |
| cprov | kiko: which is the same for truly not found keys or unreachable server or /who know what else/ | 09:11 |
| kiko | cprov, mmmm. can you access that URL from drescher manually? | 09:12 |
| kiko | cprov, can we add a sanity check to p-u that fetches a known key as a way to ensure that the keyserver is working and otherwise blow up and say "THE ROOF IS ON FIRE"? | 09:12 |
| cprov | kiko: gpg works when we call it manually on drescher | 09:13 |
| kiko | hummm. | 09:14 |
| kiko | did we change anything elsewhere since yesterday? | 09:14 |
| cprov | kiko: maybe, *pinging* keyserver would give us more information about the problem | 09:14 |
| kiko | cprov, well, ping doesn't ensure that the keyserver is actually working, only that the host is up | 09:15 |
| cprov | kiko: nothing on soyuz, dunno about the DC infra, but I guess not, elmo is aware of the problem and helping to debug | 09:15 |
| kiko | mmm | 09:15 |
| cprov | kiko: I meant high level *ping*, as you suggested | 09:15 |
| cprov | as "retrieving a known key" | 09:16 |
| kiko | ah right | 09:17 |
| kiko | yes | 09:17 |
| cprov | kiko: it's really strange because it works sometimes, for the same keys (seb's one, for instance) | 09:18 |
| cprov | kiko: the maximum debug you can get from gpgme is a tuple, (7, 9, 'No public key'), which is really distressing | 09:26 |
| kiko | cprov, so seb's key always works? | 09:27 |
| kiko | or does it only work sometimes? | 09:27 |
| cprov | kiko: only sometimes | 09:27 |
| kiko | cprov, ethereal or tcpdump to the rescue? | 09:28 |
| cprov | kiko: back to the basis ... | 09:28 |
| kiko | you said it man | 09:29 |
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| glatzor | hi. A German company contacted me, since they want to use launchpad for their Java based app. To whom can I forward the request? | 09:42 |
| kiko | glatzor, to me, but they can go ahead, register a product and start using Launchpad without any explicit permission. or is it a proprietary app? | 09:43 |
| glatzor | kiko: yes. www.netavis.net | 09:43 |
| glatzor | It's a proprietary one. | 09:44 |
| kiko | glatzor, okay. in that case please have them contact elliot@canonical.com please. | 09:44 |
| glatzor | kiko: fine. | 09:44 |
| kiko | glatzor, many thanks for referring this. | 09:45 |
| static | glatzor: Hi, I'm elliot. Like kiko said, thanks for referring this. | 09:45 |
| glatzor | static: thanks for providing lp to the Ubuntu project :) | 09:45 |
| static | glatzor: :) I just started working on it a few weeks ago, so haven't done much yet, but your sentiment is appreciated by the whole team. | 09:46 |
| kiko | static is being humble. he has masterminded this whole project since he was an infant and only now is he making his persona known to the world. | 09:50 |
| kiko | that mark character is smoke and mirrors to distract | 09:51 |
| mdke | aww. We really need a "Mark all fix committed bugs as released" button | 10:00 |
| kiko | mdke, when release happens? | 10:03 |
| mdke | kiko: well, not automatically, although that would be nice. | 10:04 |
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| mpt | Gooooooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders! | 12:01 |
| mdke | hiya mpt | 12:02 |
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