=== Fujitsu_ [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #launchpad === Ppjet6 [n=ppjet6@81.56.130.254] has joined #launchpad === Ppjet6 [n=ppjet6@81.56.130.254] has joined #launchpad === jml [n=jml@203-113-250-200-static.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #launchpad [01:10] mpt, nobody but the DBA can delete product series [01:11] fujitsu: did you get some launchpad team membership email? [01:11] Lemming of the DBA === poolie [n=mbp@ppp112-44.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad [01:17] hi kiko [01:18] hi kiko [01:18] and jamesh [01:18] hey jamesh [01:18] hey poolie [01:18] I checked with the Brazilian Embassy, and they said they mailed my passport back today [01:19] I was getting a bit worried because I'd sent it to them on the 14th December [01:23] jamesh, it's brazil. you know how it works. [01:23] kiko: the telephone number for visa enquiries is only open 2 hours a day [01:23] for me it is from 7am to 9am [01:24] that would require me take a phone to my morning bike ride which is most inconvenient [01:24] (these are people in Canberra -- not Brazil [01:24] I know. I am just putting myself in your place [01:25] however [01:25] the embassy is not in canberra [01:25] ? [01:25] it is in a brazilian plot of land within the canberra city limits [01:25] :) [01:25] you keep your hands off my embassy [01:25] when we visit the australian embassy in brasilia it reminds us in big bold capitals that we are on australian soil [01:26] it would be a 4-5 hour plane flight for me to get my hands on that plot of land [01:26] I spoke of hands figuratively [01:26] yeah :) [01:26] I wish .au would get rid of the visa requirement for Brazilians [01:26] that way Brazil would get rid of the requirement for Australians [01:26] we would indeed [01:27] but I'm concerned about all the australians flocking for jobs to brazil [01:27] taking over our beaches [01:27] eating all our food [01:27] but you don't mind kiwis like mpt getting in visa free? [01:27] you know what I mean [01:28] jamesh, be honest to yourself. how many people are there actually in NZ? mpt, his mom, dad, two sisters and the president. [01:28] thumper too [01:28] and a lot of sheep [01:28] thumper just moved in and wasn't included in the census [01:28] jamesh: even in NZ sheep don't get passports, though :) [01:28] i'm not concerned about the job market for sheep [01:28] spiv: they don't generally need them to travel internationally [01:29] lucky sheep [01:29] though it is true that sheep can ruin beaches and eat copious amounts of food [01:29] what was this conversation about again? [01:29] ah yes [01:29] let me know if the embassy doesn't send your passport [01:30] and I will talk to the embassy here to see wtf is wrong with those slackers [01:30] it should be here by the end of the week [01:30] kiko, New Zealand has a president?? [01:30] mpt, oh, so it's just the 5 of you, thumper and the sheep? [01:31] No, no, my third sister can be the president [01:31] She's studying politics [01:31] poor girl [01:31] and the kiwi birds/fruit [01:31] and ajmitch [01:31] kiko, pong? [01:31] how can anybody try to convince anyone that they are studying politics. your parents are 0wned [01:32] Fujitsu_, yes, I'd like to know if you got any launchpad membership email? [01:32] man vmware over remote X doesn't start up for me [01:32] how disgusting === kiko kicks vmware [01:32] Not for a couple of days... FOr any team in particular? [01:33] kiko, we think she actually plans a career as a spy [01:33] mpt, that's more like it. I know just the person for her to talk to. [01:33] kiko knows people who know people [01:35] maybe she'll take up the option for New Zealand to become a state of Australia [01:35] according to our constitution, NZ can do that [01:37] I knew jamesh was going to go for the low blow [01:37] I already mentioned NZ and sheep [01:37] NZ isn't a state of Australia? [01:37] mdke: for some reason they want to stay independent === mdke gets his map out [01:40] New bug: #78522 in launchpad-bazaar "xmlrpc failure shouldn't include exception details" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78522 [01:41] mdke: New Zealand is like 2 timezones east of Australia [01:43] NZ used to be a state of Australia [01:43] then we grew up [01:44] jamesh: doesn't stop hawaii [01:44] or France, which is one time zone east of England === mdke sleeps before the nonsense gets too much === kiko is now known as kiko-zzz [02:01] Oh, cool: https://launchpad.net/amu === mpt especially likes the "Part of: Bluetooth Messagging [sic] Deamon [sic] " part === mtaylor [n=mtaylor@adsl-75-14-240-132.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #launchpad === mtaylor [n=mtaylor@adsl-75-14-240-132.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has left #launchpad [] === mtaylor [n=mtaylor@adsl-75-14-240-132.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #launchpad === poolie_ [n=mbp@ppp112-44.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee giggles at the NZ conversation === mtaylor [n=mtaylor@adsl-75-14-240-132.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has left #launchpad [] === czedlitz [n=czedlitz@ip70-161-80-244.hr.hr.cox.net] has left #launchpad ["Leaving"] [03:31] [Hobbsee] ... #ubuntu-au [03:31] that explains it [03:33] mpt: um, OK :) [03:36] (that was a quote from /whois, if you were wondering) [03:39] ahhh... === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.2.171.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === somerville32 [n=somervil@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #launchpad === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-069-075.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #launchpad === Bhaskar [n=Bhaskar@202.79.37.177] has joined #launchpad [05:28] jamesh:hello [05:29] hi Bhaskar === czedlitz [n=czedlitz@ip70-161-80-244.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #launchpad [05:30] jamesh: i think u are aslo programmer [05:30] yep. [05:35] so, it looks like Python hasn' [05:35] t switched bug trackers yety === MagicFab [n=magicfab@ubuntu/member/magicfab] has joined #launchpad === lamont [i=lamont@nat/hp/x-9bde1aa00c800769] has joined #launchpad === freet15 [n=freet15@61.48.79.151] has joined #launchpad === freet15 [n=freet15@61.48.79.151] has joined #launchpad === MaSa69 [n=MaSa69@dsl-jklbrasgw1-fe1cfb00-100.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #launchpad [07:00] New bug: #78545 in launchpad "Launchpad config should be reset back to default after each test" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78545 === poolie__ [n=mbp@ppp112-44.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === BjornT [n=bjorn@clt-84-32-240-183.dtiltas.lt] has joined #launchpad === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad === matthewrevell [n=matthew@82-47-115-49.cable.ubr05.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === matthewrevell_ [n=matthew@82-47-115-49.cable.ubr05.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === jml [n=jml@ppp108-61.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === jinty [n=jinty@196.207.32.235] has joined #launchpad === carlos [n=carlos@167.Red-88-0-136.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad [09:18] morning! === jml [n=jml@ppp108-61.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad [09:28] carlos: morning :) === matthewrevell_ is now known as matthewrevell [09:30] matthewrevell: hey [09:31] morning guys, does anyone know if the malone xml rpc integration with python exists? === shawn___ [n=shawn@adsl-70-132-3-177.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] has joined #launchpad [09:33] jkelly_: what do you mean? [09:40] is there a file bug api for launchpad in python? [09:40] https://help.launchpad.net/MaloneXMLRPC === doko_ is now known as doko [09:49] jkelly_: what exactly are you looking for? the MaloneXMLRPC document describes how to file a bug from python. === jml [n=jml@ppp110-243.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad [09:56] BjornT: sorry, i understand what i have to do now, thanks anyway :) [09:56] cool :) === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #launchpad [10:01] BjornT: ping [10:01] hi carlos [10:02] BjornT: hi, could you do a fast review for me? it's related with the discussion we had on Friday about escape chars and getting the right encoding [10:03] s/escape/escaped/ [10:07] carlos: sure. is it carlos/launchpad/bug-67138? [10:07] BjornT: https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/pending-reviews/carlos/launchpad/bug-67138/full-diff [10:07] BjornT: yes === jml [n=jml@ppp110-243.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad [10:08] ok, i'll take a look at it now. [10:09] BjornT: cool, thanks [10:14] BjornT: would i have to do authentication myself? since it does not exist https://launchpad.net/malone/+bug/57742 [10:14] Malone bug 57742 in malone "xmlrpc filebug API raises TypeError exception" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Bjrn Tillenius (bjornt) [10:16] jkelly_: yes, you need to specify your username and password, using a URL like https://your@email.com:yourpassword@xmlrpc.launchpad.net/bugs/ === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #launchpad === glatzor [n=sebi@p54967A40.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #launchpad === Kylekf [n=Kyle@60.48.105.213] has joined #launchpad === Keybuk [n=scott@217.205.109.249] has joined #launchpad === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad [11:00] greetings lunchpadders! === heno [n=henrik@ubuntu/member/heno] has joined #launchpad === cprov [n=cprov@monga.dorianet.com.br] has joined #launchpad [11:07] good morning, folks === jml [n=jml@ppp110-243.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #launchpad [11:25] lunchpadders? [11:25] Is that where you go to eat a meal in orbit? [11:26] sabdfl: are you coming to PyCon? === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #launchpad === cprov [n=cprov@monga.dorianet.com.br] has joined #launchpad [11:33] WebMaven: no, but i believe stevea and static are [11:34] Cool. [11:34] stub: ping [11:34] cprov: pong [11:35] sabdfl: Is Canonical going to sponsor the conference? [11:35] stub: hi, which wiki page did you mean for "partial production db snapshots" ? [11:43] WebMaven: Canonical is not directly sponsoring pycon. We did just get provisionally accepted as PSF sponsors. [11:43] to be approved by a members' vote at pycon. [11:43] http://www.python.org/psf/records/members/2007-02-23/ [11:44] Oh, as a sponsor *member*, OK. === oojah [n=roger@cpc1-nott6-0-0-cust436.nott.cable.ntl.com] has left #launchpad [] [11:46] That's very cool. === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #launchpad [11:48] PyCon sponsorship needn't be expensive. A bag-insert sponsorship can be had for $200, for example: http://us.pycon.org/TX2007/HowToSponsor [11:53] WebMaven: that's an interesting idea. [11:53] I want to get python developers to take a look at bazaar [11:54] if you went to pycon and found a leaflet about bazaar in your conference pack, how would you feel? [11:55] depends on what it said, I guess. [11:56] A silver sponsorship gets you priority for Lightning Talks [12:01] BTW, inserts don't have to be printed materials. [12:07] thanks for the suggestions. I'll have a think about this one. [12:08] You're welcome. I hope to see you there. [12:09] cprov: The one for your spec that you referenced in the email (the Soyuz test environment one I think) [12:13] stub: Oh, sorry I misunderstood you then, I was thinking about some kind of work-in-progress specific spec for this. No problem, I will work in a draft blacklist. Thank you. === niemeyer [n=niemeyer@201.11.214.142] has joined #launchpad === matsubara [n=matsubar@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad === mattl [n=mattl@gnu/webmaster/mattl] has joined #launchpad === xdatap [n=xdatap1@host110-222.pool8175.interbusiness.it] has joined #launchpad [12:37] hi there [12:37] xdatap: Hello [12:38] seems today's recount of karma doesn't worked === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #launchpad [12:40] xdatap: Your karma still total doesn't match the total of the separate amounts in each part of Launchpad? [12:40] matthewrevell: yes. But it's the same of yesterday, but yesterday i worked on bugs [12:41] so, probably the program that calculate the karma doesn't run today [12:41] xdatap: Karma isn't updated immediately and can take up to two or three days. [12:41] LP has karma? [12:42] matthewrevell: oh, 2 or 3. I'm thinking the calculate was daily [12:42] xdatap: Check tomorrow and your total should be updated. [12:43] matthewrevell: ok, thanks [12:43] xdatap: No problem :) [12:44] i go, bye === xdatap [n=xdatap1@host110-222.pool8175.interbusiness.it] has left #launchpad ["Konversation] === salgado [n=salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad [12:45] mattl: Yeah, it's a way to give a rough idea of how much each person has done. [12:46] ah, so how do you get karma? [12:46] mattl: Reporting a bug, translating some text, updating a blueprint. Just about anything really. [12:46] can you lose it? [12:47] mattl: Not that I know of. [12:47] okay. thanks :) [12:47] mattl: I think it degrades, over time, so you need to remain active to retain a high level. [12:48] ahh, that makes sense. === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #launchpad [12:48] matthewrevell: having fun in the new job? [12:49] mattl: Yeah :) Lots and lots to learn and I will never be stuck for something to do, which is good :) [12:49] you're the Launchpad marketing manager? [12:50] heh [12:50] mattl: That's one thing you could call it. My job is like a mix of what Jono does for Ubuntu, with marketing and communications thrown in [12:50] mattl: I'm the Launchpad community/communications/marketing bloke. :) [12:50] heh. [12:51] will we see Launchpad ads? [12:51] mattl: Ads *for* Launchpad? There are no plans for traditional advertising at the moment, but never say never. [12:53] mattl: You might see the occasional Google ad in the future, and there have been some in the past. [12:53] Actually, I'm not sure I see Google ads, but it could be an interesting one. [12:54] Further to our chat last week, I'm formulating ideas on how freedoms should apply to web applications. [12:54] mattl: Cool, I'd love to read/hear your thoughts. [12:54] I'd be interested to know your feelings on the subject when I send it out. [12:54] mattl: absolutely. Please put me on your list of people to see it :) [12:55] Heh, it's quite the list now. It seems a lot of people have an opinion on it. [12:56] Did you see Second Life now free software? [12:56] is now [12:57] mattl: Yeah, that's pretty cool. We interviewed one of the Linden Labs guys on LugRadio a few months back and he mentioned they were considering/planning it. I didn't realise it was going to be so soon, though. === jinty [n=jinty@vc-196-207-32-235.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #launchpad [12:58] Sooner the better, really. I'd like to see more games become free software. [12:58] I'm interested in the idea of writing a free software game for many platforms, but I'm not sure that the likes of Nintendo would accommodate such innovation. [12:59] mattl: It's easier for Second Life to open their client, than a lot of games, though, because they're subscription based. [12:59] mattl: Ever spoken to Pepsiman? He's ported Linux to the Nintendo DS [12:59] Second Life has a free-of-charge subscription, I believe. [01:00] I've been meaning to get GNU/Linux onto the DS. [01:00] I'd like to see it on the Wii. [01:00] mattl: Yeah, but you buy Linden dollars to do stuff in the world, using real dollars. So, it's not reliant on people buying a boxed version of the game. [01:01] As the Wii has a standard SD Card reader, I can envisage where you could buy a free software loader, and then load games from the SD Card. [01:01] The loader would have to be on the regular sized disks. [01:01] Until someone works out a way to do it with just the SD Card. [01:01] I'd best crack on, tbh. Look forward to seeing your document on software freedoms and web services. [01:15] New bug: #78562 in rosetta "Missing Firestarter translation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78562 === mholthaus_ [n=mholthau@155.158.79.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #launchpad [01:18] hello launchpad! === jinty [n=jinty@vc-196-207-32-235.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #launchpad [01:22] SteveA: ping [01:22] or kiko-zzz [01:23] carlos: ? [01:24] SteveA: The people at https://launchpad.net/medibuntu/ have some .pot upload requests === Sikavica [n=andon_si@82.114.78.10] has joined #launchpad [01:24] SteveA: I wonder whether they could be considered upstream in that context [01:24] I think so, but I would like to confirm it [01:24] SteveA: they are an Ubuntu derivative [01:25] what a confusing name :-) I thought it would be medically-themed ubuntu === sabdf1 [n=sabdfl@217.205.109.249] has joined #launchpad [01:25] and from what I see, the requests are for packages that are not included in Ubuntu already === mdz [n=mdz@cpe-76-173-8-128.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #launchpad [01:25] Multimedia, Entertainment & Distraction In Ubuntu [01:25] ;-) [01:26] I don't really understand what you're asking me, and what the consequences of a decision are. [01:26] I'm going for lunch now, can this wait until later? [01:26] sure [01:26] I will ping you later [01:27] ok === carlos -> lunch [01:35] see you! === czedlitz [n=czedlitz@ip70-161-80-244.hr.hr.cox.net] has left #launchpad ["Leaving"] [01:46] hey carlos === kiko-zzz is now known as kiko [01:46] good morning === Sikavica [n=andon_si@82.114.78.10] has left #launchpad [] [01:55] New bug: #78565 in launchpad "no direct link from bug comment page to corresponding bug" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78565 === silwol [n=silwol@193.170.132.134] has joined #launchpad === silwol [n=silwol@193.170.132.134] has left #launchpad [] === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #launchpad [02:51] BjornT, ping? [02:51] hi kiko [02:51] how's it going old man [02:52] it's going good, working on implementing the malone side of the bug reporting tool. [02:52] cool -- mdz was asking me about that. is the cloakroom stuff working as expected? [02:55] well, i haven't come that far yet, i'm still writing the tests. but i'd think it should work as expected. [03:02] BjornT, ah. what does the API for retrieving the blob look like? [03:06] kiko: in python? it's ITemporaryStorageManager.fetch(token) [03:06] BjornT, and you get the content back as a string or something? [03:07] kiko: almost. you get some object, and object.blob is the uploaded data as a string. [03:07] okay, sounds pretty simple. === mattl [n=mattl@gnu/webmaster/mattl] has left #launchpad ["Leaving"] [03:08] BjornT, and we do no parsing of the blob, right? just add it as an attachment and that's it? [03:09] kiko: no, we will parse it, either append to the description, add as a comment, or add as an attachment. [03:10] BjornT, oh. so a very custom parse at that. how do we know what type the blob is? is there a signature or something? [03:11] kiko: the blob is a multipart MIME message, so it's easy to parse. we know what to do with the different parts by looking at the Content-Disposition header for each part. [03:11] BjornT, my question is more how do we differentiate from different types of blob? [03:11] i.e. for future-proofing and also "spam"-proofing. [03:13] there's only one type of blobs so far. if it's not a valid MIME message, we'll display an error message. this is done on the +filebug page, though. anything can still be uploaded, but only the +filebug page will be able to access them. [03:15] BjornT, yeah, I know, with a GET-informed token. [03:15] BjornT, what do we do when we have a second type of blob? I'd like at least some sort of identifiable signature somewhere somehow. can that be arranged? [03:17] kiko: it'd be easy to add a custom header to mime message. something like X-Launchpad-Bug-Report-Info: 1.0 [03:18] BjornT, is the format highly ubuntu-specific or could, say, firefox or python use it? [03:20] kiko: there's nothing ubuntu-specifict about it, so we could document it properly on help.launchpad.net and let any project use it. [03:21] BjornT, okay, I like both those ideas. maybe work with somebody to document the format so you don't have to? [03:23] kiko: well, i'm going to document it anyway in the doctests. but i guess i could ask someone to look at the doctests and produce user documentation from that. [03:24] right [03:24] could matthewrevell do that I wonder? === cprov is now known as cprov-lunch === matthewrevell reads back [03:27] kiko, BjornT: Yep, I can do that. [03:28] BjornT: Let me know when you've got something you want me to look at. [03:28] BjornT: Or if you want to write some notes, I can turn it into docs [03:28] it should be straightforward -- the doctests should provide the best notes possible [03:30] kiko: So, the documentation is for an API that allows third party tools to report bugs directly into Malone? [03:30] matthewrevell: cool. it's probably best to do it after the distro sprint, so don't expect anything before the beginning of february. [03:31] BjornT: Okay, nice one. Just let me know when you need me. [03:31] matthewrevell, not exactly, but related. it's for a data format that a tool can upload and then give the user a handle that he can use when filing a bug to retrieve it. [03:31] matthewrevell, so I can upload a file containing a dump file and a traceback and some information about the environment [03:32] then with the handle I get back from launchpad [03:32] I can go in and file a bug and launchpad knows to pull the coat out of the cloakroom and attach it to your bug in a way that makes sense. [03:32] maybe the traceback and env info goes in a comment and the dump goes in as an attachment [03:33] kiko: Right, I see, thanks. [03:33] matthewrevell, the upload is meant to be done by a tool, in the case of ubuntu, which will hand off to a +filebug in firefox [03:34] kiko: Right. === newz2000 [n=matt@12-216-147-124.client.mchsi.com] has joined #launchpad === newz2000 [n=matt@12-216-147-124.client.mchsi.com] has left #launchpad ["We] === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@mail.foredil.it] has joined #launchpad === matthewrevell [n=matthew@82-47-115-49.cable.ubr05.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === kiko is now known as kiko-fud [04:26] New bug: #78577 in launchpad "Send notifications when a new member is added to a team" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78577 [04:28] salgado, is that not done today? [04:28] kiko-fud, not when you use the +addmember page [04:29] salgado, should the event not be triggered in the domain class instead to avoid this? [04:32] we don't have an event for that [04:32] what we have currently is notifications for status changes, not for addition of new members [04:32] s/the event/an event? === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch === cprov-lunch is now known as cprov === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara === merriam [n=merriam@84-12-191-249.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === Ppjet6 [n=ppjet6@81.56.130.254] has joined #launchpad === __keybuk [n=scott@217.205.109.249] has joined #launchpad === rolando-ve [n=rolando-@200.8.47.2] has joined #launchpad [06:32] hi [06:32] I need a littel help [06:32] mya anyone help me,please [06:32] this is the case [06:33] I did help to create the ubuntu-sv (ElSalvadorTeam) project in LaunchPad [06:33] rolando-ve, is that a project or a team? [06:34] but when I did try to give the owern to the lider user of ElSalvador, the I dont know what happened a assign the owenr to other user [06:34] a Team [06:34] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sv [06:35] now, I cant give the own to the correct user [06:35] :( [06:35] what can i do? [06:36] Fritznl is the own now, and must be navnelson [06:36] I mistake [06:37] rolando-ve, let me try to get somebody to fix this for you === zwnj [n=behnam@213.207.210.231] has joined #launchpad === jkakar [n=jkakar@204-174-36-228.unknown-dhcp802.dsl.ucc-net.ca] has joined #launchpad [06:37] salgado, thanks! [06:37] kiko-fud, can you change the owner of https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sv from 'na' to 'navnelson7'? === jkakar [n=jkakar@204-174-36-228.unknown-dhcp802.dsl.ucc-net.ca] has joined #launchpad [06:45] salgado, sure. === kiko-fud is now known as kiko [07:09] rolando-ve, salgado: done. [07:10] Thank you [07:10] Thanks salgado , kiko [07:11] see you === jmedina [n=jmedina@red-corp-200.76.227.46.telnor.net] has joined #launchpad [07:13] hello there === rolando-ve [n=rolando-@200.8.47.2] has left #launchpad ["Leaving"] [07:14] I just join to an launchpad group, and Im inviting some friends to ask their doubts there [07:14] but I dont see any page where they can ask [07:14] I only see the "Answers" page [07:15] jmedina: that page is associated with a product [07:15] jmedina: not teams [07:15] ok [07:15] seems like what you want is a forum [07:15] but we don't have such feature [07:15] or a mailing list [07:16] then, for example https://answers.launchpad.net/ [07:16] who and how those answers were made? [07:16] jeje [07:16] jmedina: that's for user support linked with a product or distribution [07:17] if you have a problem with Ubuntu, you open one and the developers will try to solve your problem [07:17] or with launchpad itself [07:17] is not exactly a forum [07:18] yes, I know [07:18] thanks I found the request support form [07:18] and now I understand it [07:18] thanks [07:19] np === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #launchpad === mdke_ [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #launchpad === mholthaus_ [n=mholthau@johnny33.dersbach.ch] has joined #launchpad [08:07] If I want to request the ability to specify columns to display in bug listing tables, should I file a bug (I couldn't find any existing bugs about that) [08:10] that bug is already filed [08:12] I must be searching for the wrong terms... [08:12] kiko: do you know the number or at least some likely search terms to find it? :) [08:12] I'm looking [08:15] how weird [08:15] maybe someone rejected it? [08:18] matsubara, help? [08:19] kiko: maybe you're looking for you comment in bug https://launchpad.net/malone/+bug/3752 [08:19] Malone bug 3752 in malone "Bug lists should provide a way to change the query" [Medium,Fix released] - Assigned to Brad Bollenbach (bradb) [08:19] s/you comment/your comment/ [08:20] that looks close [08:20] you know everything matsubara [08:20] New bug: #78596 in malone "Automatically handle moving duplicates across when duplicating a bug with dupes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78596 [08:20] radix, I'm amazed at the fact that the bug is perhaps not reported then [08:20] New bug: #78597 in launchpad-development-infrastructure "lpdebs needs graphviz-cairo package for dapper amd64" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78597 [08:26] BjornT: shouldn't lp.net/malone/bugs/$bugid redirect to lp.net/bugs/$bugid? If yes, is there a bug filed on it? [08:28] matsubara: do we have many 404 for such URLs? [08:29] BjornT: I haven't checked the 404s, but all my old bugmail has the malone/bugs/$bugid url and would be nice to have that redirect to the bug instead of a 404 === silwol [n=silwol@193.170.132.134] has joined #launchpad === silwol [n=silwol@193.170.132.134] has left #launchpad [] [08:30] New bug: #78598 in launchpad-development-infrastructure "import policy violations in gina" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78598 [08:31] kiko: so then, should I file a different bug for it? [08:31] radix, yes, I think that's the only way to move forward in this quagmire === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #launchpad [08:34] hullo seb128 [08:34] kiko: cool then. [08:34] hey kiko [08:35] matsubara: hmm. i guess it might be worth adding a redirect for it. [08:37] BjornT: okie. I'll file a bug then. [08:44] grumpf [08:44] launchpad seems to eat the control-center uploads today [08:44] seb128, no warnings sent back? [08:44] cprov, ping? [08:44] kiko: pong [08:45] cprov, have a sec to look on mawson to see what's happening to seb's uploads? [08:45] kiko: no, no mail, nothing [08:45] seb128: we had problems with gpg keys [08:45] kiko: drescher :) [08:45] I've uploaded 2.17.5-0ubuntu1 for control-center some hours ago and no sign from it [08:45] seb128: I will check it again, no mail isn't expected. [08:46] and no 2.17.5-0ubuntu2, same (not sure if I should upload the .orig.tar.gz again then)? [08:46] cprov, ah [08:46] cprov: thank you [08:46] I got other packages accepted during the day [08:46] so it's not likely to be a problem with my key [08:50] New bug: #78602 in malone "Redirect /malone/bugs/$bugid to /bugs/$bugid" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78602 [08:51] seb128: it failed, indeed, by the gpg issue we had today -> GPG verification of control-center_2.17.5-0ubuntu1_source.changes failed: No public key [08:52] cprov: what should I do? I uploaded a 2.17.5-0ubuntu2 some minutes ago [08:52] seb128: you can either re-upload it or request distro-guys to re-process it [08:52] but without the orig [08:52] should I upload -0ubuntu2 again but with the orig then? [08:52] ok [08:52] thank you [08:53] seb128: it also failed ... I guess, let me see [08:54] seb128: btw, we still having the *gpg issue* I thought it was gone ... [08:56] New bug: #78605 in launchpad-development-infrastructure "get rid of 'test left new threads behind' messages during 'make check'" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78605 === thumper [n=tim@166-179-22-14.jamamobile.co.nz] has joined #launchpad [08:59] radix, did you file it? [09:00] kiko: I did. I don't know why it didn't show up here... #76808 [09:00] er, #78608 === radix eyes Ubugtu [09:01] New bug: #78608 in malone "Allow specifying arbitrary columns in bug listings" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78608 [09:01] heh [09:01] it takes 5 minutes [09:02] oh, I guess the same lag as email? [09:03] cprov: do you have a list of uploads that go rejected due to the gpg error? [09:03] because without feedback we might not upload them again [09:03] radix, ubugtu gets bugmail! [09:03] kiko: ahhh :) [09:03] would be nice to get a rejected mail when that happens [09:05] seb128: that's a good idea, can get someone from distro-team either to build a list of suspicious failures or to re-process them [09:05] seb128: I'm working to find the cause of the problem and hopefully fix it ... === SteveA [n=steve@costello.z3u.com] has joined #launchpad [09:07] cprov: ok, I will ping Tollef about that [09:07] after dinner [09:07] dinner time for now ;) [09:08] seb128: okay, I will be here too [09:08] cprov, what do you think happened? [09:08] kiko: looks like unreachable keyserver, but gpgme debug is so poor [09:09] gpgme is terrrrrible. [09:10] cprov, http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x6E63F4AA works from here, fwiw [09:11] kiko: right, but it doesn't inside p-u run, exits with 'No public key' [09:11] kiko: which is the same for truly not found keys or unreachable server or /who know what else/ [09:12] cprov, mmmm. can you access that URL from drescher manually? [09:12] cprov, can we add a sanity check to p-u that fetches a known key as a way to ensure that the keyserver is working and otherwise blow up and say "THE ROOF IS ON FIRE"? [09:13] kiko: gpg works when we call it manually on drescher [09:14] hummm. [09:14] did we change anything elsewhere since yesterday? [09:14] kiko: maybe, *pinging* keyserver would give us more information about the problem [09:15] cprov, well, ping doesn't ensure that the keyserver is actually working, only that the host is up [09:15] kiko: nothing on soyuz, dunno about the DC infra, but I guess not, elmo is aware of the problem and helping to debug [09:15] mmm [09:15] kiko: I meant high level *ping*, as you suggested [09:16] as "retrieving a known key" [09:17] ah right [09:17] yes [09:18] kiko: it's really strange because it works sometimes, for the same keys (seb's one, for instance) [09:26] kiko: the maximum debug you can get from gpgme is a tuple, (7, 9, 'No public key'), which is really distressing [09:27] cprov, so seb's key always works? [09:27] or does it only work sometimes? [09:27] kiko: only sometimes [09:28] cprov, ethereal or tcpdump to the rescue? [09:28] kiko: back to the basis ... [09:29] you said it man === glatzor [n=sebi@p54967A40.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #launchpad === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@ppp-29-103.25-151.libero.it] has joined #launchpad === mdke_ is now known as mdke === MagicFab [n=magicfab@ubuntu/member/magicfab] has joined #launchpad [09:42] hi. A German company contacted me, since they want to use launchpad for their Java based app. To whom can I forward the request? [09:43] glatzor, to me, but they can go ahead, register a product and start using Launchpad without any explicit permission. or is it a proprietary app? [09:43] kiko: yes. www.netavis.net [09:44] It's a proprietary one. [09:44] glatzor, okay. in that case please have them contact elliot@canonical.com please. [09:44] kiko: fine. [09:45] glatzor, many thanks for referring this. [09:45] glatzor: Hi, I'm elliot. Like kiko said, thanks for referring this. [09:45] static: thanks for providing lp to the Ubuntu project :) [09:46] glatzor: :) I just started working on it a few weeks ago, so haven't done much yet, but your sentiment is appreciated by the whole team. [09:50] static is being humble. he has masterminded this whole project since he was an infant and only now is he making his persona known to the world. [09:51] that mark character is smoke and mirrors to distract [10:00] aww. We really need a "Mark all fix committed bugs as released" button [10:03] mdke, when release happens? [10:04] kiko: well, not automatically, although that would be nice. === jml_ [n=jml@ppp110-243.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === Ppjet6 [n=ppjet6@81.56.130.254] has joined #launchpad === MagicFab [n=magicfab@ubuntu/member/magicfab] has joined #launchpad === carlos [n=carlos@167.Red-88-0-136.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #launchpad === somerville32 [n=somervil@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #launchpad === carlos [n=carlos@167.Red-88-0-136.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #launchpad === Spads [n=spacehob@host-84-9-50-186.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #launchpad === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-135-240.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #launchpad === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === beuno [n=martin@68-155-114-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #launchpad === cprov is now known as cprov-afk === xenru [n=xenru@85.192.14.210] has joined #launchpad === heno [n=henrik@ubuntu/member/heno] has joined #launchpad === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@port166-123.ubs.maxnet.net.nz] has joined #launchpad === jml_ [n=jml@203-113-250-200-static.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #launchpad === jml_ is now known as jml === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #launchpad === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #launchpad [12:01] Gooooooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders! [12:02] hiya mpt === kiko is now known as kiko-zzz === somerville32 [n=somervil@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #launchpad