[12:12] <BHSPitLappy> I wouldn't go so far as to call him a "beast"...
[12:12] <BHSPitLappy> :P
[12:12] <troy_s> lol
[12:13] <troy_s> nature of our beast.  we must go through these growing pains.
[12:19] <familyfriendly> hrmm
[12:20] <familyfriendly> lol
[12:20] <familyfriendly> brb
[12:41] <familyfriendly> hey where do i get like ubuntu logo's etc? from the wiki?
[12:41] <TheSheep> familyfriendly: yes
[12:42] <familyfriendly> found :D
[12:42] <TheSheep> familyfriendly: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing
[12:42] <TheSheep> ah, ok
[12:50] <familyfriendly> thnx anyway
[02:08] <familyfriendly> http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/6919/screenshotem6.png
[02:08] <familyfriendly> too bright, too swirly, note mute enough ... ?  Its the whole comming together kinda thing, but kinda watercolourish, adding to the human dimension
[02:08] <familyfriendly> thoughts?
[02:38] <TheSheep> my eyes! my eyes!
[02:41] <BHSPitLappy> ouch
[02:42] <BHSPitLappy> now I want to criticize, but he's gone :(
[02:50] <TheSheep> heh
[04:04] <Winter-1> hey
[08:17] <BHSPitLappy> hey, familyfriendly
[11:40] <coz_> hello to all awake
[11:40] <coz_> I have a statement to make
[11:40] <BHSPitLappy> k
[11:40] <coz_> I have been posting much of my artwork on theubuntu forums site
[11:40] <BHSPitLappy> k
[11:40] <coz_> I have been doing this for some time now
[11:40] <BHSPitLappy> k
[11:41] <coz_> I reposted a painting of kassetra I had done last year that was posted for over 6 months on my gallery
[11:41] <coz_> after having reposted it again this morning, in 2 hours it was removed
[11:41] <BHSPitLappy> ouch
[11:42] <coz_> the answer I got for whay is that it was a nude however, not only do I have other nudes including a photograph there, but many people also have nudes on their galleries
[11:42] <coz_> this wa apparenlty a continuation of the rediculous politacal fiasco of last summer concerning kassetra
[11:42] <coz_> as a result i cannot post my work any longer
[11:43] <BHSPitLappy> hmm
[11:43] <coz_> the infiltration of ultra conservative values and political views have no place in art or ubunbtu
[11:43] <coz_> my work, unlikepdevs who have freely given it over to the public is copyrighted amterial
[11:44] <coz_>  so as a membert of the ubuntu art team, i strongly suggest that the other emembers, do the same
[11:44] <BHSPitLappy> jenda said to post in the Resolution Center.
[11:44] <coz_> until the conservative views are irradicated
[11:44] <BHSPitLappy> btw, you're being ridiculous
[11:44] <coz_> I urge all artists posting on the forums to remove their works
[11:45] <coz_> until this has changed
[11:47] <BHSPitLappy> Yeah, real speaker for his cause
[11:48] <BHSPitLappy> "I refuse to stick around anywhere long enough to support my arguments; complaints alone!
[11:53] <elkbuntu> if he's posting non-family friendly stuff then this outcome is for the best
[11:55] <BHSPitLappy> regardless of political views regarding art, this is a linux site.
[11:57] <elkbuntu> BHSPitLappy, and we're under the Code of Conduct, which means being respectful. nudity is quite disrespectful to many people and cultures
[11:57] <BHSPitLappy> parents only allow their kids to visit radio shack because they understand there's not a good chance of finding naked photos behind the iPod accessories.
[11:57] <elkbuntu> precisely
[11:57] <BHSPitLappy> as such, leave nude art to the nude art forums.
[11:57] <BHSPitLappy> we don't need to be one, masquerading as a tech support forum.
[11:57] <elkbuntu> and we both know there's a crapload of them out there anyway
[11:57] <elkbuntu> yeah
[11:58] <BHSPitLappy> that guy gets on my nerves a lot.
[11:58] <BHSPitLappy> meh.
[11:58] <elkbuntu> heh
[11:58] <elkbuntu> deep breaths, dear
[11:58] <BHSPitLappy> no, I'm fine.
[11:58] <BHSPitLappy> :P
[11:59] <BHSPitLappy> I'm just as civil as the
[11:59] <BHSPitLappy> HANG HIM!
[11:59] <elkbuntu> sometimes i wonder if this is a lingering curse from the linuxxx days, or a curse of letting horny geeks make pretty pictures
[11:59] <BHSPitLappy> lol
[11:59] <BHSPitLappy> I'm not old enough to know of such curses
[11:59] <elkbuntu> the two are not mutually exclusive either, hehe
[12:00] <elkbuntu> linuxxx is a nickname warty was given due to the default artwork of .. arousing artwork
[12:01] <BHSPitLappy> "The co-creator of LinuXXX, Eric Hefner, said that the inspiration for the all-porn OS came from the Ubuntu Linux distribution. "When Ubuntu revealed their original cleavage-enhanced splash screen, I knew the world was ready for a Triple-X operating system.""
[12:01] <elkbuntu> lol
[12:01] <BHSPitLappy> damn, I didn't get on board until Dapper.
[12:01] <BHSPitLappy> lol.
[12:03] <elkbuntu> i started using in hoary, 'discovered' the community in breezy
[12:03] <elkbuntu> i had used the channels late hoary, but they didnt really make an impression back then
[12:04] <BHSPitLappy> I'd finally had enough of Mandriva, so I started looking elsewhere.  Thought I'd finally look at this Ubuntu I'd heard so much about.  That was shortly before the Dapper release, so I waited for it.
[12:05] <elkbuntu> heh. ubuntu is the first linux i actually used
[12:05] <BHSPitLappy> As for the community, well I was already on freenode. Wasn't too much to join a few more chans :P
[12:05] <elkbuntu> played with knoppix and DSL before then
[12:05] <BHSPitLappy> My first was SuSe.
[12:05] <BHSPitLappy> YuCK.
[12:05] <elkbuntu> hehe
[12:05] <elkbuntu> they dotn use yum? :
[12:05] <BHSPitLappy> heh.
[12:06] <BHSPitLappy> they use NaSTy YaST
[12:06] <elkbuntu> i know
[12:06] <BHSPitLappy> Ubuntu was a big deal for me, though
[12:06] <elkbuntu> i have actually got mandriva on this machine.. i played with it for... i think half a day
[12:06] <BHSPitLappy> first linux I've used that could actually fill the shoes of "primary" for me
[12:07] <elkbuntu> ubuntu is a big deal for everyone, they just dont know it yet :D
[12:07] <BHSPitLappy> linux, before, was something I tried to be on as much as I could, but it was never livable.
[12:07] <elkbuntu> yeah
[12:07] <BHSPitLappy> and it's something I can share.
[12:07] <elkbuntu> it helps to have a community like this behind us
[12:08] <BHSPitLappy> I've got my family, grandmother, two friends using it
[12:08] <elkbuntu> nice. so far i've achieved a partition on my mother's computer. unfortunately she does still need windows for some things
[12:08] <BHSPitLappy> the grandmother part means a lot.
[12:08] <elkbuntu> yeah
[12:08] <BHSPitLappy> yeah
[12:08] <BHSPitLappy> my mom uses it about 50/50
[12:08] <BHSPitLappy> pretty evenly
[12:09] <BHSPitLappy> she likes the games ^^
[12:09] <elkbuntu> i had my bro playin wesnoth until he moved out last weekend
[12:09] <BHSPitLappy> coz is back on...
[12:09] <BHSPitLappy> not familiar with wesnoth
[12:10] <elkbuntu> turn based strategy game
[12:11] <BHSPitLappy> I see
[12:11] <BHSPitLappy> I used to like... a similar game to that
[12:12] <BHSPitLappy> I mean, one of that genre.
[12:12] <BHSPitLappy> many years back, on Windows...
[12:12] <elkbuntu> might be worth taking a look then
[12:12] <BHSPitLappy> no idea what it was called
[12:12] <elkbuntu> i totally suck at that sort of game
[12:12] <BHSPitLappy> nah, it really doesn't interest me
[12:12] <elkbuntu> but we have wormux and lincity-ng so im satisfied :)
[12:12] <BHSPitLappy> isn't lincity sort of disappointing
[12:13] <BHSPitLappy> I wish The Sims 2 worked in wine or something...
[12:13] <elkbuntu> lincity is, lincity-ng is better
[12:13] <elkbuntu> it's not as good as the real thing though
[12:13] <elkbuntu> i have simcity2000 disks around here somewhere
[12:13] <BHSPitLappy> oh
[12:13] <BHSPitLappy> heh, yeah, I have that
[12:13] <elkbuntu> still havent tried it in wine :(
[12:13] <BHSPitLappy> look it up in the appdb
[12:14] <BHSPitLappy> gotta love the original pixel-art buildings
[12:14] <elkbuntu> hehe yeah
[12:15] <elkbuntu> i can really see the gaming situation improving in the next year or two
[12:15] <BHSPitLappy> simcity 2000 has a gold rating
[12:15] <elkbuntu> yeah
[12:15] <elkbuntu> s/yeah/yeah?/
[12:15] <BHSPitLappy> what's sad is that the songs wouldn't work
[12:16] <BHSPitLappy> I assume
[12:16] <BHSPitLappy> MIDI...
[12:16] <BHSPitLappy> it really irks me that hardware midi is basically nonexistent in linux.
[12:16] <BHSPitLappy> then you'd think there'd be a well-implemented software synth, but there really isn't.
[12:17] <elkbuntu> there may well be one day
[12:17] <BHSPitLappy> you have a goose chase setting up qsynth, or mediocre performance with timidity
[12:18] <BHSPitLappy> maybe a nice, well-integrated server with a GUI for loading soundfont
[12:18] <BHSPitLappy> mayyybe I will... maybe I will... lol
[12:18] <elkbuntu> you never know what jokosher is going to end up like either ;)
[12:19] <BHSPitLappy> open source GarageBand?
[12:21] <elkbuntu> i think that's the intention
[12:22] <elkbuntu> http://jokosher.org
[12:22] <BHSPitLappy> I'm wondering if Audacity died...
[12:23] <elkbuntu> the project? nope
[12:23] <BHSPitLappy> last news is from october.
[12:23] <elkbuntu> that's not unusual
[12:24] <elkbuntu> slow != dead
[12:24] <elkbuntu> i suspect it will start feeding off jokosher at some point
[12:24] <BHSPitLappy> you wonder why they don't just produce a couple linux packages for 1.3.2b, either
[12:24] <BHSPitLappy> "The beta version of Audacity has not been packaged for very many distributions yet. You probably want to compile Audacity from source code."
[12:25] <BHSPitLappy> it probably required more effort to pump out Windows and Mac binaries... oh well
[12:25] <BHSPitLappy> I'm whining too much :)
[12:25] <elkbuntu> i think it's more a case of they let distro maintainers do the packaging
[12:26] <BHSPitLappy> distro maintainers won't/don't package it in beta...
[12:27] <BHSPitLappy> look how long it took them to figure out that gaim2.0beta was actually what they should go with.
[01:00] <lapo> hi
[01:02] <BHSPitLappy> yo
[02:17] <coz_> KaiL, morning
[03:52] <troy_s> greets all
[03:52] <TheSheep> hey troy
[03:53] <troy_s> go
[03:53] <troy_s> hey elkbuntu -- did corey have a little falling out with ubuntu apparently?
[03:53] <troy_s> (i ask you because you are in with the doc / marketing crowd i believe)
[08:30] <troy_s> greets msikma
[08:38] <msikma> Hi Troy