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beunoyeap12:09
beunoI hate suming up gnome packages...12:09
beuno45 feisty packages to go for UWN12:33
beunosomeone's gotto have a few extra minutes...12:33
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somerville32<-- is stupid.01:42
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rjiandid anyone receive the UWN 26 on their email?02:33
theCorerjian: I did receive it02:45
rjianstrange i did not received any...02:46
rjianhmm02:46
rjiantheCore: can u send me a copy?02:46
theCorerjian: to?02:46
theCorerjian: your email?02:46
rjianrjian@moss.orgz.ph02:46
theCorerjian: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news/2007-January/000066.html02:47
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Admiral_Chicagosomeone with info about gobby UWN?03:12
Admiral_Chicagoi lost my log when I restarted this liveCD03:13
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tonyyarussoAnyone seen bueno?03:25
BHSPitLappyno03:25
Admiral_Chicagotonyyarusso: he was here a few hours ago03:25
Admiral_Chicago!seen beuno03:25
tonyyarussoAdmiral_Chicago: Ah, all right.03:25
ubotuI last saw beuno (n=martin@68-155-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) 2h 36m 26s ago, quiting: "Ex-Chat"03:25
theCoreAdmiral_Chicago: ubuntu.juliux.de; port: 6523; passwd: ufl@ftw03:43
Admiral_Chicagothanks theCore 03:43
tonyyarussoOh good, at least that got taken care of03:45
Admiral_Chicagotonyyarusso: UWN?03:46
tonyyarussoAdmiral_Chicago: yeah, the server.  Mine died.03:46
Admiral_Chicagooh okay.03:48
Admiral_Chicagotonyyarusso: maybe you can answer this, i'm looking at xine-lib and under it I see libxine-dev, libxine-main etc03:53
tonyyarussoAdmiral_Chicago: um, ok?03:53
Admiral_Chicagodo I just name it Xine Lib or Libxine or Xine. Are each one seperate?03:54
tonyyarussoName it for what?03:54
Admiral_ChicagoUWN 27. Doing Feisty changes03:54
tonyyarussoah03:54
tonyyarussoI'd go with Xine myself, but Corey usually does that section.03:55
Admiral_ChicagoI'll just do some other ones and ping Cody or Corey when they are around.03:56
tonyyarussoSounds good03:56
Admiral_Chicagoapt-cache show pypsi03:58
Admiral_Chicagodammit. i forget i'm on irssi and not talking to a terminal03:58
Admiral_Chicagohmm that doesn't return anything. is this even in the repos...maybe added in feisty04:00
=== nixternal needs gobby server ip
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nixternalsomerville32: gobby server ip?04:14
nixternalso i can add the kubuntu stuff from today04:14
=== somerville32 nods.
somerville32Umm... :)04:14
somerville32One sec04:14
nixternalsomerville32: where at in the world are you btw? you seem to be online all the time as well :)04:14
somerville32lol04:14
somerville32Atlantic Canada04:15
nixternalahhh04:15
nixternalso you are an hour ahead of me then i believe04:15
nixternal-0600 here, -0500 where you are?04:15
somerville32No04:15
somerville32-040004:15
nixternalwhoa04:15
nixternalnewfoundland?04:15
nixternalhehe04:15
somerville32Nfld is -033004:15
somerville32ubuntu.juliux.de 652304:19
Admiral_Chicagosomerville32: it's ubuntu.juliux.de. 6523 ufl@ftw if you need it04:19
Admiral_Chicagoah there you go04:19
nixternalthank you04:19
Admiral_Chicagobrb04:54
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nixternalhrmm05:29
nixternali am trying to find news and it just isn't there05:29
somerville32: (05:31
somerville32Look in your mailbox05:31
somerville32I'm sure there is something on the ml05:31
nixternalim on every list there is :)  the bug list is nice and full ;p05:32
somerville32lol05:32
nixternali will make a quick run through though and see if anything stands out05:32
nixternalcheck the community stuff up top, ready for some proofing, i add the kubuntu meeting, cd/dvd image testing, and a quick ubuntu irc port 8001 note05:33
=== somerville32 nods.
somerville32What about mentioning Second Life is going GPL?05:41
somerville32lol05:41
somerville32Oh wait, we don't want to be slashdot ;] 05:42
nixternalwth is Second Life?05:42
somerville32A game05:42
nixternalahh05:44
=== nixternal don't have time for games anymore
nixternalschool, kubuntu, and kde keep me busy05:44
somerville32It was on slashdot05:48
nixternali don't read that anymore, it is poisoned news05:49
somerville32lol05:49
somerville32Oh crap05:49
nixternaluh oh05:49
somerville32It is tomorrow in 10 minutes05:49
nixternalwell, 1hr 10min here :)05:49
somerville32We need to get this baby released, lol05:49
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nixternalwhat else needs something that is important05:51
somerville32Feisty Changes needs to be finished up05:53
somerville32There is 3-4 left05:53
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somerville32Ok06:13
somerville32We need proof readers :] 06:13
nixternali removed imgSeek from teh feisty changes because it was nothing more than a manual merge from MoM, and it hasn't changed since January 2006, over a year ago06:17
nixternalfeisty section is complete06:18
somerville32Huzzah!06:19
somerville32Proof read time06:19
somerville32crimsun, ping06:19
nixternaldoing so now, running it through my dictionary06:19
nixternalspell checking completed06:27
somerville32Awesome06:27
somerville32Anyone else want to check it out before I send it?06:28
somerville32btw, nixternal06:28
somerville32Did you find the nice formatted info about the packages helpful?06:28
nixternalfor feisty changes?06:28
somerville32Yup06:28
rjianback...06:29
nixternalall i needed really was the package name and version, google provides me teh rest, but it is good for those who don't knwo the packages and it gives them an idea of what it is, so it is easier to find06:29
somerville32nixternal: Well, one of the hard parts before was going through each package and determining if it was worthy or not06:29
=== rjian y is it im always receiving d UWN15??
somerville32Plus the info was all scewed all over the place06:29
somerville32IT was hard to work with06:30
somerville32Very intimidating06:30
nixternalya06:30
somerville32It was a lot easier to get people to help06:30
somerville32This week felt like a breeze06:30
nixternalwell from now on if i am around i can give you a hand from the get go on it06:30
nixternali figure if there are 20 great updates that should be enough06:30
nixternalbut there are a lot of little updates which really don't need mentioning06:30
nixternalwhen going through the feisty-changes list06:30
=== somerville32 nods
somerville32We only do new releases06:32
somerville32nixternal: Can you get links to the wiki pages of the new members?06:34
nixternalsure can06:34
somerville32thanks06:35
nixternaldone06:36
somerville32I think we're ready06:37
nixternalone sec06:38
nixternalfixing some wording06:38
somerville32tell me when :] 06:39
nixternalok done06:41
nixternalfixing the chicago stuff, don't want a million people showing up to a library for a business venue06:41
somerville32ok06:43
somerville32imported to wiki06:43
somerville32Last chance to review everyone06:43
somerville32https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue2706:43
nixternalgood job somerville32!06:44
somerville32Thanks :)06:44
somerville32You too06:44
nixternalno problem, anytime you need some help, ping me06:44
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somerville32:)06:44
elkbuntunixternal, aha.. feel like using your fridge superpowers?06:55
nixternalsure06:55
elkbuntuok, let me move stuff to a wikipage for you to copy from06:55
elkbuntuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/LCAOpenDay200707:02
elkbuntunixternal, :)07:03
nixternalroger07:03
somerville32elkbuntu, Will you proof UWN?07:06
elkbuntusomerville32, will it take less than two minutes?07:07
somerville32It might take three07:07
somerville32Depends on how fast you can read ;] 07:08
somerville32elkbuntu, let me know when you're done07:14
elkbuntui'll let you know when i actually start. i havent yet. im in an out of the room constantly at the moment07:26
somerville32elkbuntu, I'm just going to send it cause I need sleep07:34
nixternalelkbuntu: posted, awaiting approval07:42
nixternalhttp://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/70907:42
nixternaldunno if you can read that, but worth a shot :)07:42
nixternalnope, guess not :(07:43
somerville32nixternal: You should send in something for UWN 27 too07:43
nixternalhrmm, somerville32 ^^07:43
somerville32moo?07:45
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=== ..[topic/#ubuntu-marketing:somerville32] : Welcome to the Ubuntu Marketing Team's IRC channel | We're here to fix Bug #1 | Please sign up to the mailing list, ubuntu-marketing at lists.ubuntu.com | UWN 27 released, UWN 28 in progress for Jan 15th | ask about the gobby server | CodySomerville (somerville32) is the new Co-Chief Editor for UWN
Admiral_Chicagosweet it's out07:54
somerville32:D07:54
Admiral_Chicagoshould I change https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter to show that?07:55
Admiral_Chicagois the translation ready? probably not right07:55
Admiral_Chicagofound some mistakes...07:55
somerville32lol07:57
somerville32OH well07:57
somerville32And no07:57
somerville32I'm editing the front page07:57
Admiral_Chicagookay, fixes the link07:57
somerville32What are the mistakes?07:58
somerville32Admiral_Chicago, ?08:01
Admiral_Chicagosomerville32: just a Behind Ubuntu Link08:03
somerville32We didn't have a Behind Ubuntu link in UWN 2708:03
somerville32You fixed it in UWN 27?08:04
somerville32*2608:04
Admiral_Chicagono, 2608:04
Admiral_Chicagolol08:04
Admiral_Chicagooh well it's fixed08:04
Admiral_Chicagoiirc, Teg was updated recently to add desktop icons or icons in the applications menu, that may go into next week08:07
somerville32cool08:09
somerville32Woot for the first UWN of 2007!08:09
somerville32UWN Issue #27! :)08:09
Admiral_Chicagowhat script did you try? was it the one that dumped 2K lines?08:11
somerville32Hmm?08:12
Admiral_ChicagoUWN 26 said you were testing a script to make writing UWN 27 much easier08:13
=== somerville32 nods.
somerville32And we did :)08:14
Admiral_Chicagocool. btw, fixed a link. HelpingWithBugs to use interwiki linking, there was a trailing [WWW] 08:15
somerville32Umm...08:15
somerville32We don't want interwiki linking08:15
Admiral_Chicagono? oh yes because of the fridge and hosting on other pages.08:16
Admiral_ChicagoI'll fix it then08:16
Admiral_Chicagodone, I think I put it back properly.08:19
somerville32:] 08:19
=== rjian can someone send me a Copy of UWN 26??
Admiral_Chicagohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue2608:21
Admiral_Chicagorjian: that link08:21
rjianAdmiral_Chicago: thnx.. y is UWN15 is always on my Indox?08:22
somerville32rjian: Did you get another copy of UWN 15 today?08:22
Admiral_Chicagonot sure...maybe it just likes you a lot08:23
rjiansomerville32:  yup..08:23
somerville32e-mail?08:23
rjianAdmiral_Chicago: hehehe 08:23
rjianrjian_sevilla@yahoo.com08:23
Admiral_Chicagoseems i come up 5th with my LP page if I google myself08:23
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WaterSevenUbfollowing the topic... ask about the gobby server :-).... for translation of the UWN purposes which one is adequate?11:31
WaterSevenUbyesterday I saw gobby.ubuntu.com but it seemed there were so many documents open ... perhaps no backups as well? :) 11:32
jendaI think you can use ubuntu.juliux.de11:32
WaterSevenUb6522(3)?11:32
jenda3, I think.11:33
jendaufl@ftw11:33
WaterSevenUbjenda, the version there is the last version?11:35
jendadunno11:35
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jenda(and runs)11:36
WaterSevenUbWell.. I use the wiki one... :)11:36
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crimsunsomerville32: contentless pong: 00:19 #ubuntu-marketing: < somerville32> crimsun, ping12:54
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rjiangood eve people01:12
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juliuxhi all01:52
juliuxjenda, ping02:36
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WaterSevenUbhey:) correct the typo in the UWN "Changes In Fiesty".. it has been around for a while.03:38
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jendajuliux: pong05:24
jendajuliux: just got a package ;)05:24
KenSentMeI have a question about the Ubuntu Weekly #2705:46
KenSentMeOn the wikipage of the newsletter there's a link to a wiki paga about TestDisk. However that page doesn't exist (yet). 05:47
KenSentMeWhy is the link in the text then?05:48
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MitchMThe link propagated itself from anti-matter06:19
MitchM:006:19
MitchM:)*06:19
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juliuxjenda, did you know somebody who as ubuntu stickers?06:46
MenZajuliux: I got my shirt06:48
MenZaAnd it pwns so much06:48
MenZaThanks :D06:48
juliuxMenZa, cool06:48
juliuxMenZa, right size?06:48
nixternalshirt?06:49
nixternalomg show me now, and price, and size, and can you ship it to chicago? :)06:49
MenZayep juliux06:49
MenZanixternal: Polo shirt with logo embroid06:49
nixternalomg06:49
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juliuxnixternal, http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/download/3158/06:50
juliuxthere is a picture06:50
juliuxnixternal, sure we can ship it to chicago06:50
nixternalooh now that i really really like06:50
nixternalawesome06:51
nixternalless than $100 :)06:51
juliuxi will check it06:51
nixternalthank you06:52
juliuxnixternal, i cost 8 with dhl06:53
juliuxnixternal, as a normal letter until 500gr06:54
nixternal$10 USD, not to shabby06:55
nixternalcost of the shirt?06:55
juliuxpoloshirt or t-shirt?06:56
nixternalboth06:56
nixternalare they both embroidered?06:56
juliuxyes06:56
nixternalnice06:56
juliuxif you want booth the shipit cost sit 12, the poloshirt 15, the t-shirt 10 so 37 total06:57
juliuxi think this is around 50$06:57
nixternalwow06:57
nixternal48.14 to be exact06:57
juliuxok06:58
nixternalthat is a damn good price06:58
nixternalim checking with the chicago guys to see if they want any06:58
juliuxok06:58
juliuxbut rember size m is out allready06:58
nixternaloh ya, what sizes are available?06:58
juliuxs,l,xl,xxl06:58
nixternalsweet06:58
nixternali know I will need at least a XXL06:59
juliuxhehe06:59
nixternalare they big in size, or normal?06:59
juliuxnormal06:59
nixternalim 6'3 220 pounds, i need some room06:59
juliuxand they will not be smaller during wasching;)06:59
juliux6'4 ;)06:59
nixternalexcellent06:59
nixternalholy jesus, another tall drink of water06:59
nixternalis the XXL long enough on you07:00
nixternalthat is my only issue with XXL shirts07:00
nixternali could wear XL, but they are never long enough for me07:00
juliuxi need only xl07:00
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nixternali can't believe how cheap you are selling those shirts07:03
nixternalthe polo embroidered for me would cost $3007:03
nixternalhell, i paid $20 for a cafepress t-shirt07:03
juliuxit is not so cheap07:04
juliuxnormaly in german a poloshirt cost around 20 07:04
WaterSevenUb(hhhmmm...translating UWN.... what feature is this:  * New Feature: Community Spotlight - Process of the Week; )07:04
nixternal$48 for a polo and a t-shirt shipped to the USA is CHEAP07:04
WaterSevenUb(?)07:04
juliuxbut we are an non profit organisation07:04
nixternalthat's awesome. i am definitely going to do one of each, but i am waiting to see if the chicago guys want anything, then we can just do one shipment07:05
juliuxnixternal, we do all the work unpayed in our freetime;)07:05
nixternalthat's the greatness of our comunity07:05
nixternaljuliux: we have been looking for a good place to do shirts for us, and we haven't found anything close to your prices07:05
WaterSevenUb(regarding the next UWN)07:05
nixternalWaterSevenUb: #27 or #28?07:06
WaterSevenUb#27.... 07:06
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WaterSevenUbregarding the next #2807:06
juliuxnixternal, we buyed 50 t-shirts and 100 poloshirts for 1500,-07:06
juliuxnixternal, that is a normal price in germany07:06
nixternalwow07:06
juliuxand the stickery is made in germany;07:07
nixternalWaterSevenUb: i have no idea what that feature is. it seems issue 28's Community Spotlight will highlight a "Process of the Week"07:09
nixternalwhat that process is i don't know as of right now07:09
WaterSevenUb.. it's difficult to translate without knowing :) thx anyway.07:09
nixternaljuliux: can you give me the weight of each, 1 polo weighs?  1 t-shirt weighs? that way there we can see how much it will cost us to ship whatever amount we request?07:10
nixternalwhat city in germany btw?07:11
juliuxnixternal, if you have more then the two shirts we can send it as a package upto 2kgs it cost 12,90 8shirts are 2kg07:11
juliuxnixternal, i am from dresden;)07:11
juliuxnixternal, same city as pitti;)07:11
nixternalnice07:11
juliuxnixternal, 5kg package cost 32 10kg package 42 20kg package 4207:13
juliuxnixternal, did you have any idea if we or you have to pay duty?07:14
nixternali was wondering the same07:14
juliuxout for dinner;)07:16
WaterSevenUbother question... you used a script to produce Feisty Changes? I was wondering how easy would be to change it to make easier the translations of Feisty Changes section.07:17
nixternali don't know about that, i believe somerville32 or Burgandavia would know more about that07:18
WaterSevenUbok...thx again.07:18
nixternalno problem, sorry i couldn't me of more assistance07:19
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nixternaljuliux: you must have a DHL account, if I were to ship a similar package to you, it has quoted me at $191.79 USD :\07:27
juliuxnixternal, i uses deutschepost.de;)07:38
nixternalahh07:38
nixternali was like how does he ship that cheap07:38
nixternaljuliux: someone also said (i will check into it) that if you post it as a gift, then it is non-dutiable or whatever that word was :)07:39
juliuxnixternal, i will check in the internet how to deal with that problem;07:40
juliuxnixternal, or ask my parents they are sending every year christmas gifts to usa07:40
nixternalhehe, that will work07:41
juliuxwhat shirts should i reserve for you?07:42
nixternalright now 1XXL Polo and 1XXL T-shirt07:42
juliuxok07:42
juliuxdone,)07:42
nixternalthat was easy :)07:43
nixternalif i dont' hear anything within the next hour or so from the chicago guys, then it will be up to them on getting a shirt :)07:43
juliuxnixternal, it is first come first get07:44
nixternalNote: Most personal shipments worth up to $200, and gift packages worth up to $100, will pass dutyfree as long as the recipient does not receive multiple packages in a single day whose cumulative value is more than these amounts.07:49
juliuxsounds good07:50
nixternalthat is a government website here in the states07:50
juliuxif we get over the 200$ we will make two packages to two different people;)07:50
nixternalthat is a good idea07:51
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nixternali wonder where they all are07:51
nixternalnone of the bums work, they are all students pretty much07:51
juliuxnixternal, what time you have in us?07:51
nixternalalmsot 13:0007:51
juliuxthat is to early for students;)07:52
nixternalhehe true07:54
juliuxbut i get up very early every day:(07:58
nixternali try to07:58
juliuxi have to;) my first course is at 7:30 ;)07:59
nixternalya, i will be doing that next week as a matter of fact07:59
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juliuxhi tonyyarusso 09:41
tonyyarussohi juliux 09:42
jendajuliux: I have stickers. Tons.09:44
juliuxjenda, did you have a picture?09:44
juliuxjenda, i want to buy some for the expos in germany09:44
jendasure09:45
jendaj'sec09:45
jendajuliux: http://flickr.com/photos/menza/190241486/09:45
juliuxjenda, can you mail me the price?09:45
jendajuliux: simple - 2 for 10 small ones or 1 big one.09:46
juliuxgood price09:46
tonyyarusso!seen bueno09:46
ubotuI haven't seen bueno recently09:46
juliuxyeah edubuntu stickers;)09:46
jendalemme check stock09:46
juliux!benuo09:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about benuo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:46
juliuxjenda, i will buy a lot of stickers;)09:48
jendauh oh... bad news :/09:49
jendait seems I don't have many of the little ones left.09:49
jenda(where could they be - did I really ship them all?)09:49
juliuxjenda, then i will take the rest, if possible;)09:50
tonyyarussoIf anyone sees bueno, tell him he can turn off the script.09:50
jendasure it's possible, but give me a bit to search.09:50
jendajuliux: how many would you be interested in? I've been considering a reprint for some time anyway.09:50
juliuxjenda, around 500 or more09:51
juliuxjenda, let me know if you will reprint one, i will check with the rest of the team how much stickers we want09:51
juliuxjenda, but we have around 10 expos in germany this year09:52
jendajuliux: with such an order, I'll definitely reprint.09:53
juliuxjenda, i will talk with the rest of the team this week09:53
jendagreat09:53
jendawould you prefer somethnig like that on the picture, or, say brown? :)09:53
jenda(me looks for pic of old stickers)09:54
jendaelkbuntu: got any pics of the brown stickers?09:54
juliuxi prefer the powered by stickers09:54
jendayes, powered by, but I can make them nice and brown, too ;)09:54
juliuxhm brown?09:55
juliuxpic?09:55
jendaThis is one option: http://commodore.gran.ee/images/designedforubuntu.png09:55
jenda(changing the text)09:55
jendajuliux: if you order 500 or more, I can make it German text as well :)09:56
juliuxno powered by is great09:56
jendaok09:56
juliuxbecause it is the same like the windows stickers;)09:56
jendaeek :)09:56
juliuxi don't like the brown stickers09:56
jendaand this is the type I've already done: http://www.tikal26.net/ubuntu/Samolepka-EN.png09:56
jendaor, I can just make it white.09:57
juliuxi like the old style ones;)09:57
jendaok09:57
juliuxbut i will send all the pics to the teamlist09:58
jendathey aren't necessarily old style - they're MenZa style. T'means I'll have to dig up the artwork ;)09:58
jendahehe, ok.09:58
jendaIt's no problem to dig up, really:09:58
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=== MenZa bows to juliux
MenZajenda: his shirt is awesome, innit?10:09
MenZashirts*, are*10:09
jendaMenZa: perfect :)10:09
MenZaI got mine today10:09
MenZa= C'est sexcellent.10:09
jendaA bit on the expensive side, but perfect :)10:09
MenZahah10:09
jendaMenZa: so did I :)10:09
MenZaHow much are they, apiece?10:09
jenda15+4.5010:10
MenZaWhat currency's that again? Euro?10:10
MenZa:d10:10
jendayep10:10
juliuxMenZa, yes 10:10
MenZaI've seen worse.10:10
MenZameh, bad irssi10:10
juliuxjenda, the normal price for a polo shirt in DE ist 20-2510:10
MenZaYeah, it's not that bad10:11
jendajuliux: I don't normally buy polos, and never in DE ;)10:11
MenZaMight order one with a breast pocket once you've got those ready, juliux10:12
MenZaI wear polos constantly.10:12
jendajuliux: I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it - just my personal opinion... and budget :)10:12
juliuxjenda, phh, i only buy alcohol in cz;)10:12
MenZalol10:12
jendaI paid for MenZa's with the marketing money, as that's what his stickers will net.10:12
jendahehe10:12
juliuxMenZa, in CZ you get the 1l bottle for the price of the 0.7l bottle10:13
jendajuliux: true, I don't buy much more either ;)10:13
MenZalol10:13
juliuxMenZa, and i can travel with my studentticket to cz;)10:13
MenZa:D10:14
MenZanice10:14
MenZanow10:14
MenZaGotta do some stupid project10:14
MenZattyl10:14
jendajuliux: so, in essence, your country promotes drinking for students?10:15
jendaBoo!10:15
jenda:)10:15
juliuxjenda, lol10:15
juliuxjenda, i can take the train until one station bevor the border, then i have to walk aroun 1km;)10:16
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jendalol :)10:18
jendawalking there is ok...10:18
jendawalking back is the problem.10:19
juliuxjenda, most time we drive buy car;)10:19
jendaWell, driving back would be illegal, wouldn't it? :)10:20
juliuxno10:20
juliux12l alcohol is allowed10:21
juliuxor 120l beer;)10:21
juliuxthere was only one real controll in the last year10:21
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jendajuliux: is that in the boot or in the blood?10:32
juliuxjenda, LOL10:32
jenda120 l is what the average german drinks in a year :)10:33
jendaWell, the Czech will down it in a mere 9 months ;)10:33
juliuxjenda, yes but we are students10:34
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jendajuliux: that's average vaules ;)10:39
juliuxjenda, i will work that the average will be higher;)10:40
juliuxin 2007;)10:40
jendahehe ;)10:41
jendaThis is from the National Geographic, some 200410:41
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=== beuno waves
beunosomerville32: great job on getting the UWN out in time10:46
juliuxhi beuno 10:47
somerville32Thanks :] 10:47
beunohey juliux10:47
jendaoi, beuno10:47
juliuxbeuno, <tonyyarusso> If anyone sees bueno, tell him he can turn off the script.10:47
beunojenda  ;D10:47
beunoaaah10:47
jendayeah, nice work, somerville32 ;)10:47
beunoright10:47
beunowill do now10:47
juliuxsomerville32, i let the gobby server running, so feel free to use it;)10:47
beunothanks juliux10:47
somerville32Thanks10:47
somerville32Now... everyone get working on UWN 28! :D10:47
juliuxbeuno, you are welcome10:48
beunolol10:48
beunosomerville32: I'll be working on the Upstart article first10:48
beunoand getting the DIY website demo up today10:48
somerville32beuno: We're doing a process of the week this week10:48
beuno:(10:48
beunook10:49
beunoI'll do it anyway while I have Scott's attention   :p10:49
beunoand you can put it in whenever it's needed10:58
juliuxsomerville32, you can ask the german kubuntu team about the uwn now in -meeting if you want11:04
jendajuliux: speaking of stickers - would you be interested in the big round ones? they are really nice, and I've got plenty of them :)11:09
jendajuliux: I can give you a quantity discount (with a bit of calculation...)11:09
juliuxcool11:09
juliuxnixternal, i said mako that you are organising a shirt shipping to usa;)11:31
jendasweet!11:31
nixternalhehe11:38
nixternaljuliux: paypal the recommended exchange?11:39
juliuxnixternal, paypal is fine11:39
nixternaldid you ask your family about the duty thing?11:39
jendashipping to the US requires a customs notice...11:39
juliuxbut then 2$ more for the charge;)11:39
nixternali know i don't pay any taxes/duty when i receive shipits11:39
jenda...you can just write it's a present ;)11:40
juliuxnixternal, not yet, i am not living at home;)11:40
nixternaljenda knows :)11:40
jendahehe11:40
juliuxjenda, ah so i write on the package GIFT and everything is fine?11:40
nixternaljenda: any idea on how long it will take to get here (days wise)11:40
jendajuliux: nope, go to the post office, and ask about it.11:41
jendanixternal: about a week11:41
nixternalwow, that is good11:41
jendashouldn't be more, unless it's really big.11:41
juliuxjenda, i have the papers here;) and no i see something about duty11:41
nixternali was expecting longer since this countries borders and customs are morons11:41
jenda(if it's going prioritaire)11:41
juliuxjenda, there is a checkbox gift;)11:41
jendajuliux: I don't think it's in the base prices - you don't _pay_ for it.11:41
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jendajuliux: yes, taht's it ;)11:42
jendaprobably11:42
nixternalno juliux won't pay for it, i will, which is no biggy as it seems it would only be a few bucks probably11:42
jendanixternal: for some reason, prioritaire seems default (in CZ)... the other is by ship, and that could take a month.11:42
nixternalya, i can't wait for no stinkin' ship ;)11:42
jendanixternal: you don't pay customs if it's a gift either.11:42
nixternali need a quality ubuntu shirt to make me look cool :)11:43
juliuxnixternal, sorry i don't get that11:43
nixternaljenda: ya i found that out, gift <$100 USD == no duty, and even if it isn't a gift, something about it being <$200 == no duty as well11:43
nixternaljuliux: you have the quality ubuntu shirt i need to make me look stupendous (but im sure i will always look stupid) :)11:44
nixternalas a matter of fact, one of the kubuntu devs could get me a kubuntu t-shirt screenprinted and it would cost me about $40 shipped11:44
jendajuliux: in CZ, it works like this: I went to the post office and wanted to send my 4th batch of posters - they told me I can't ship to the US without customs notices. They gave me as many of these as I wanted, and I'm to check 'gift' on each, write 'posters' the date, and sign them.11:44
juliuxnixternal, i don't mean the duty i mean the charge for paypal;)11:45
jendaI pre-made that in OO.org, so I just sign :)11:45
nixternal$2 charge for paypal? don't bother me, i think that is how they get their kickback11:45
jendajuliux: paypal won't cost you anything if it's paypal-to-paypal11:45
jendathey only charge if it's credit-card-to-paypal.11:46
juliuxnixternal, we get 51$ from jenda and we had to pay 2 charge11:46
jendayour bank might charge11:46
jendajuliux: I paid by credit.11:46
nixternalhrmm11:46
nixternalahh11:46
nixternali will do p2p :)11:46
juliuxjenda, ah11:46
jendaargh! juliux, that's 2 off your next purchase!11:46
nixternallol11:46
juliuxjenda, it is ok;)11:46
nixternalspeaking of that, what do you have for sale jenda?11:46
jendanixternal: stickers, as usual.11:46
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nixternalthe powered by stickers?11:47
jendahttp://flickr.com/photos/menza/190241486/11:47
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nixternalyou realise i have looked at that page 1000000000 times and i always forget :)11:47
jendano, I'm out of those - although I'll be printing again, as juliux wants an a**load...11:47
jendahaha :)11:47
nixternalhahaha11:47
juliuxjenda, did you think it is possible that i get the stickers at the end of februar?11:47
jendaI now have tons of the round logo stickers, and the white things.11:47
jendajuliux: definitely.11:47
juliuxjenda, good11:48
nixternalthe little white things or the big white things :)11:48
jendanixternal: big11:48
jendaI'll be printing the little, however.11:48
nixternalya, i want the little and the round, i have a ton of the big ones from canonical that i have to hand out this weekend at our meeting11:48
nixternalit is great, i am seeing ubuntu stickers all over laptops at the uni now11:49
nixternaleven though most are probably still running Windows :)11:49
jendanixternal: MenZa's big ones are bigger than canonicals... and they stick ;)11:49
jendahehe11:49
nixternalhaha11:49
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nixternalya, the canonical ones stick for a month or so and then SLIDE off, they don't even fall off11:50
jendanixternal: how many of which are you thinking?11:50
jendahehe11:50
nixternalprices and i will give you the amount11:50
nixternal5,000 each?11:50
nixternal;p11:50
nixternalj/k11:50
jendaI gave juliux the price of 2 for 10 small or each big.11:50
juliuxthe first ones from canonical are great11:50
jendaYou can stick to that... or you can use $3 per 10 small ones and $2 for each big, for easiness of calculation :)11:51
nixternal$2.63 USD isn't to shabby i guess11:51
nixternalhahahahahahahahahahaha11:51
nixternaloh11:51
nixternaljenda: i read you last line as "you can stick that.... or"11:51
jendathose are my older prices - I just made up what I told juliux ;)11:51
jendahehe11:52
nixternali love this conver script, it converts everything for me via cli or a right click11:52
nixternalKubuntu FTW!11:52
juliuxjenda, we will talk if i know the total number of the stickers we want11:53
nixternali need to add some network conversions and some theorems so when i do tests and homework :)11:53
jendanixternal: if you could guess how many little ones you could use, it would help me decide if I should print 1000 or 200011:54
jendajuliux, nixternal, and if you two can use more than 300 (combined) of Kubuntu, Edubuntu or Xubuntu - I can print that as well.11:54
juliuxjenda, i only want ubuntu and edubuntu;)11:55
jendaelkbuntu bought all of my Kubuntu, Edubuntu and Xubuntu prints :/11:55
jendajuliux: ok :)11:55
nixternali would probably look at a few sets of each (at least Ubuntu & Kubuntu)11:55
jendajuliux: please find out the numbers, at latest by the end of January.11:55
juliuxjenda, what is the minimum number?11:55
nixternalhow much are the round ones? and are there Kubuntu ones as well?11:55
jendanixternal: you'd have to get 300 of Kubuntu ;)11:56
jendano, not round Kubuntu, sorry :/11:56
nixternalmy laptop won't hold 30011:56
nixternal;p11:56
jendayou could try persuading MenZa to make them.11:56
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jendanixternal: they are $2 apiece11:56
nixternalnext is Hobbsee's pointy stick of doom :)11:56
juliuxjenda, 2 !=2$11:57
nixternal2 == $2.6311:57
nixternalunless that changes again anytime soon11:57
juliuxyes  is more then $ ;)11:57
jendajuliux: your price is 2 - 2, his is $3 - $2 ;)11:57
juliuxjenda, hehe11:57
jendaon average, it's quite fair :)11:57
jendayou can choose either of the tariffs, I s'pose.11:57
nixternali seen someone had some little silver stickers somewhere as well11:58
jendaAlthough that'll put me at a disadvantage...11:58
nixternalcan't remember where i saw them though11:58
jendanixternal: point me to them!!!11:58
jenda:)11:58
nixternali wish i could remember, they were cool11:58
juliuxjenda, i take the 2;)11:58
nixternalyou know what, maybe directron.com had them at one point11:58
jendajuliux: good :)11:58
juliuxnixternal, i think they are from germany11:58
juliuxnixternal, you mean the metal one?11:59
nixternalvery well could have been. yes the metal ones11:59
juliuxthere was a company in german11:59
nixternalwhich would go great with the brushed aluminum laptop11:59

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