[12:09] <beuno> yeap
[12:09] <beuno> I hate suming up gnome packages...
[12:33] <beuno> 45 feisty packages to go for UWN
[12:33] <beuno> someone's gotto have a few extra minutes...
[01:42] <somerville32> <-- is stupid.
[02:33] <rjian> did anyone receive the UWN 26 on their email?
[02:45] <theCore> rjian: I did receive it
[02:46] <rjian> strange i did not received any...
[02:46] <rjian> hmm
[02:46] <rjian> theCore: can u send me a copy?
[02:46] <theCore> rjian: to?
[02:46] <theCore> rjian: your email?
[02:46] <rjian> rjian@moss.orgz.ph
[02:47] <theCore> rjian: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news/2007-January/000066.html
[03:12] <Admiral_Chicago> someone with info about gobby UWN?
[03:13] <Admiral_Chicago> i lost my log when I restarted this liveCD
[03:25] <tonyyarusso> Anyone seen bueno?
[03:25] <BHSPitLappy> no
[03:25] <Admiral_Chicago> tonyyarusso: he was here a few hours ago
[03:25] <Admiral_Chicago> !seen beuno
[03:25] <tonyyarusso> Admiral_Chicago: Ah, all right.
[03:25] <ubotu> I last saw beuno (n=martin@68-155-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) 2h 36m 26s ago, quiting: "Ex-Chat"
[03:43] <theCore> Admiral_Chicago: ubuntu.juliux.de; port: 6523; passwd: ufl@ftw
[03:43] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks theCore 
[03:45] <tonyyarusso> Oh good, at least that got taken care of
[03:46] <Admiral_Chicago> tonyyarusso: UWN?
[03:46] <tonyyarusso> Admiral_Chicago: yeah, the server.  Mine died.
[03:48] <Admiral_Chicago> oh okay.
[03:53] <Admiral_Chicago> tonyyarusso: maybe you can answer this, i'm looking at xine-lib and under it I see libxine-dev, libxine-main etc
[03:53] <tonyyarusso> Admiral_Chicago: um, ok?
[03:54] <Admiral_Chicago> do I just name it Xine Lib or Libxine or Xine. Are each one seperate?
[03:54] <tonyyarusso> Name it for what?
[03:54] <Admiral_Chicago> UWN 27. Doing Feisty changes
[03:54] <tonyyarusso> ah
[03:55] <tonyyarusso> I'd go with Xine myself, but Corey usually does that section.
[03:56] <Admiral_Chicago> I'll just do some other ones and ping Cody or Corey when they are around.
[03:56] <tonyyarusso> Sounds good
[03:58] <Admiral_Chicago> apt-cache show pypsi
[03:58] <Admiral_Chicago> dammit. i forget i'm on irssi and not talking to a terminal
[04:00] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm that doesn't return anything. is this even in the repos...maybe added in feisty
[04:14] <nixternal> somerville32: gobby server ip?
[04:14] <nixternal> so i can add the kubuntu stuff from today
[04:14] <somerville32> Umm... :)
[04:14] <somerville32> One sec
[04:14] <nixternal> somerville32: where at in the world are you btw? you seem to be online all the time as well :)
[04:14] <somerville32> lol
[04:15] <somerville32> Atlantic Canada
[04:15] <nixternal> ahhh
[04:15] <nixternal> so you are an hour ahead of me then i believe
[04:15] <nixternal> -0600 here, -0500 where you are?
[04:15] <somerville32> No
[04:15] <somerville32> -0400
[04:15] <nixternal> whoa
[04:15] <nixternal> newfoundland?
[04:15] <nixternal> hehe
[04:15] <somerville32> Nfld is -0330
[04:19] <somerville32> ubuntu.juliux.de 6523
[04:19] <Admiral_Chicago> somerville32: it's ubuntu.juliux.de. 6523 ufl@ftw if you need it
[04:19] <Admiral_Chicago> ah there you go
[04:19] <nixternal> thank you
[04:54] <Admiral_Chicago> brb
[05:29] <nixternal> hrmm
[05:29] <nixternal> i am trying to find news and it just isn't there
[05:31] <somerville32> : (
[05:31] <somerville32> Look in your mailbox
[05:31] <somerville32> I'm sure there is something on the ml
[05:32] <nixternal> im on every list there is :)  the bug list is nice and full ;p
[05:32] <somerville32> lol
[05:32] <nixternal> i will make a quick run through though and see if anything stands out
[05:33] <nixternal> check the community stuff up top, ready for some proofing, i add the kubuntu meeting, cd/dvd image testing, and a quick ubuntu irc port 8001 note
[05:41] <somerville32> What about mentioning Second Life is going GPL?
[05:41] <somerville32> lol
[05:42] <somerville32> Oh wait, we don't want to be slashdot ;] 
[05:42] <nixternal> wth is Second Life?
[05:42] <somerville32> A game
[05:44] <nixternal> ahh
[05:44] <nixternal> school, kubuntu, and kde keep me busy
[05:48] <somerville32> It was on slashdot
[05:49] <nixternal> i don't read that anymore, it is poisoned news
[05:49] <somerville32> lol
[05:49] <somerville32> Oh crap
[05:49] <nixternal> uh oh
[05:49] <somerville32> It is tomorrow in 10 minutes
[05:49] <nixternal> well, 1hr 10min here :)
[05:49] <somerville32> We need to get this baby released, lol
[05:51] <nixternal> what else needs something that is important
[05:53] <somerville32> Feisty Changes needs to be finished up
[05:53] <somerville32> There is 3-4 left
[06:13] <somerville32> Ok
[06:13] <somerville32> We need proof readers :] 
[06:17] <nixternal> i removed imgSeek from teh feisty changes because it was nothing more than a manual merge from MoM, and it hasn't changed since January 2006, over a year ago
[06:18] <nixternal> feisty section is complete
[06:19] <somerville32> Huzzah!
[06:19] <somerville32> Proof read time
[06:19] <somerville32> crimsun, ping
[06:19] <nixternal> doing so now, running it through my dictionary
[06:27] <nixternal> spell checking completed
[06:27] <somerville32> Awesome
[06:28] <somerville32> Anyone else want to check it out before I send it?
[06:28] <somerville32> btw, nixternal
[06:28] <somerville32> Did you find the nice formatted info about the packages helpful?
[06:28] <nixternal> for feisty changes?
[06:28] <somerville32> Yup
[06:29] <rjian> back...
[06:29] <nixternal> all i needed really was the package name and version, google provides me teh rest, but it is good for those who don't knwo the packages and it gives them an idea of what it is, so it is easier to find
[06:29] <somerville32> nixternal: Well, one of the hard parts before was going through each package and determining if it was worthy or not
[06:29] <somerville32> Plus the info was all scewed all over the place
[06:30] <somerville32> IT was hard to work with
[06:30] <somerville32> Very intimidating
[06:30] <nixternal> ya
[06:30] <somerville32> It was a lot easier to get people to help
[06:30] <somerville32> This week felt like a breeze
[06:30] <nixternal> well from now on if i am around i can give you a hand from the get go on it
[06:30] <nixternal> i figure if there are 20 great updates that should be enough
[06:30] <nixternal> but there are a lot of little updates which really don't need mentioning
[06:30] <nixternal> when going through the feisty-changes list
[06:32] <somerville32> We only do new releases
[06:34] <somerville32> nixternal: Can you get links to the wiki pages of the new members?
[06:34] <nixternal> sure can
[06:35] <somerville32> thanks
[06:36] <nixternal> done
[06:37] <somerville32> I think we're ready
[06:38] <nixternal> one sec
[06:38] <nixternal> fixing some wording
[06:39] <somerville32> tell me when :] 
[06:41] <nixternal> ok done
[06:41] <nixternal> fixing the chicago stuff, don't want a million people showing up to a library for a business venue
[06:43] <somerville32> ok
[06:43] <somerville32> imported to wiki
[06:43] <somerville32> Last chance to review everyone
[06:43] <somerville32> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue27
[06:44] <nixternal> good job somerville32!
[06:44] <somerville32> Thanks :)
[06:44] <somerville32> You too
[06:44] <nixternal> no problem, anytime you need some help, ping me
[06:44] <somerville32> :)
[06:55] <elkbuntu> nixternal, aha.. feel like using your fridge superpowers?
[06:55] <nixternal> sure
[06:55] <elkbuntu> ok, let me move stuff to a wikipage for you to copy from
[07:02] <elkbuntu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/LCAOpenDay2007
[07:03] <elkbuntu> nixternal, :)
[07:03] <nixternal> roger
[07:06] <somerville32> elkbuntu, Will you proof UWN?
[07:07] <elkbuntu> somerville32, will it take less than two minutes?
[07:07] <somerville32> It might take three
[07:08] <somerville32> Depends on how fast you can read ;] 
[07:14] <somerville32> elkbuntu, let me know when you're done
[07:26] <elkbuntu> i'll let you know when i actually start. i havent yet. im in an out of the room constantly at the moment
[07:34] <somerville32> elkbuntu, I'm just going to send it cause I need sleep
[07:42] <nixternal> elkbuntu: posted, awaiting approval
[07:42] <nixternal> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/709
[07:42] <nixternal> dunno if you can read that, but worth a shot :)
[07:43] <nixternal> nope, guess not :(
[07:43] <somerville32> nixternal: You should send in something for UWN 27 too
[07:43] <nixternal> hrmm, somerville32 ^^
[07:45] <somerville32> moo?
[07:54] <Admiral_Chicago> sweet it's out
[07:54] <somerville32> :D
[07:55] <Admiral_Chicago> should I change https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter to show that?
[07:55] <Admiral_Chicago> is the translation ready? probably not right
[07:55] <Admiral_Chicago> found some mistakes...
[07:57] <somerville32> lol
[07:57] <somerville32> OH well
[07:57] <somerville32> And no
[07:57] <somerville32> I'm editing the front page
[07:57] <Admiral_Chicago> okay, fixes the link
[07:58] <somerville32> What are the mistakes?
[08:01] <somerville32> Admiral_Chicago, ?
[08:03] <Admiral_Chicago> somerville32: just a Behind Ubuntu Link
[08:03] <somerville32> We didn't have a Behind Ubuntu link in UWN 27
[08:04] <somerville32> You fixed it in UWN 27?
[08:04] <somerville32> *26
[08:04] <Admiral_Chicago> no, 26
[08:04] <Admiral_Chicago> lol
[08:04] <Admiral_Chicago> oh well it's fixed
[08:07] <Admiral_Chicago> iirc, Teg was updated recently to add desktop icons or icons in the applications menu, that may go into next week
[08:09] <somerville32> cool
[08:09] <somerville32> Woot for the first UWN of 2007!
[08:09] <somerville32> UWN Issue #27! :)
[08:11] <Admiral_Chicago> what script did you try? was it the one that dumped 2K lines?
[08:12] <somerville32> Hmm?
[08:13] <Admiral_Chicago> UWN 26 said you were testing a script to make writing UWN 27 much easier
[08:14] <somerville32> And we did :)
[08:15] <Admiral_Chicago> cool. btw, fixed a link. HelpingWithBugs to use interwiki linking, there was a trailing [WWW] 
[08:15] <somerville32> Umm...
[08:15] <somerville32> We don't want interwiki linking
[08:16] <Admiral_Chicago> no? oh yes because of the fridge and hosting on other pages.
[08:16] <Admiral_Chicago> I'll fix it then
[08:19] <Admiral_Chicago> done, I think I put it back properly.
[08:19] <somerville32> :] 
[08:21] <Admiral_Chicago> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue26
[08:21] <Admiral_Chicago> rjian: that link
[08:22] <rjian> Admiral_Chicago: thnx.. y is UWN15 is always on my Indox?
[08:22] <somerville32> rjian: Did you get another copy of UWN 15 today?
[08:23] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure...maybe it just likes you a lot
[08:23] <rjian> somerville32:  yup..
[08:23] <somerville32> e-mail?
[08:23] <rjian> Admiral_Chicago: hehehe 
[08:23] <rjian> rjian_sevilla@yahoo.com
[08:23] <Admiral_Chicago> seems i come up 5th with my LP page if I google myself
[11:31] <WaterSevenUb> following the topic... ask about the gobby server :-).... for translation of the UWN purposes which one is adequate?
[11:32] <WaterSevenUb> yesterday I saw gobby.ubuntu.com but it seemed there were so many documents open ... perhaps no backups as well? :) 
[11:32] <jenda> I think you can use ubuntu.juliux.de
[11:32] <WaterSevenUb> 6522(3)?
[11:33] <jenda> 3, I think.
[11:33] <jenda> ufl@ftw
[11:35] <WaterSevenUb> jenda, the version there is the last version?
[11:35] <jenda> dunno
[11:36] <jenda> (and runs)
[11:36] <WaterSevenUb> Well.. I use the wiki one... :)
[12:54] <crimsun> somerville32: contentless pong: 00:19 #ubuntu-marketing: < somerville32> crimsun, ping
[01:12] <rjian> good eve people
[01:52] <juliux> hi all
[02:36] <juliux> jenda, ping
[03:38] <WaterSevenUb> hey:) correct the typo in the UWN "Changes In Fiesty".. it has been around for a while.
[05:24] <jenda> juliux: pong
[05:24] <jenda> juliux: just got a package ;)
[05:46] <KenSentMe> I have a question about the Ubuntu Weekly #27
[05:47] <KenSentMe> On the wikipage of the newsletter there's a link to a wiki paga about TestDisk. However that page doesn't exist (yet). 
[05:48] <KenSentMe> Why is the link in the text then?
[06:19] <MitchM> The link propagated itself from anti-matter
[06:19] <MitchM> :0
[06:19] <MitchM> :)*
[06:46] <juliux> jenda, did you know somebody who as ubuntu stickers?
[06:48] <MenZa> juliux: I got my shirt
[06:48] <MenZa> And it pwns so much
[06:48] <MenZa> Thanks :D
[06:48] <juliux> MenZa, cool
[06:48] <juliux> MenZa, right size?
[06:49] <nixternal> shirt?
[06:49] <nixternal> omg show me now, and price, and size, and can you ship it to chicago? :)
[06:49] <MenZa> yep juliux
[06:49] <MenZa> nixternal: Polo shirt with logo embroid
[06:49] <nixternal> omg
[06:50] <juliux> nixternal, http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/download/3158/
[06:50] <juliux> there is a picture
[06:50] <juliux> nixternal, sure we can ship it to chicago
[06:50] <nixternal> ooh now that i really really like
[06:51] <nixternal> awesome
[06:51] <nixternal> less than $100 :)
[06:51] <juliux> i will check it
[06:52] <nixternal> thank you
[06:53] <juliux> nixternal, i cost 8 with dhl
[06:54] <juliux> nixternal, as a normal letter until 500gr
[06:55] <nixternal> $10 USD, not to shabby
[06:55] <nixternal> cost of the shirt?
[06:56] <juliux> poloshirt or t-shirt?
[06:56] <nixternal> both
[06:56] <nixternal> are they both embroidered?
[06:56] <juliux> yes
[06:56] <nixternal> nice
[06:57] <juliux> if you want booth the shipit cost sit 12, the poloshirt 15, the t-shirt 10 so 37 total
[06:57] <juliux> i think this is around 50$
[06:57] <nixternal> wow
[06:57] <nixternal> 48.14 to be exact
[06:58] <juliux> ok
[06:58] <nixternal> that is a damn good price
[06:58] <nixternal> im checking with the chicago guys to see if they want any
[06:58] <juliux> ok
[06:58] <juliux> but rember size m is out allready
[06:58] <nixternal> oh ya, what sizes are available?
[06:58] <juliux> s,l,xl,xxl
[06:58] <nixternal> sweet
[06:59] <nixternal> i know I will need at least a XXL
[06:59] <juliux> hehe
[06:59] <nixternal> are they big in size, or normal?
[06:59] <juliux> normal
[06:59] <nixternal> im 6'3 220 pounds, i need some room
[06:59] <juliux> and they will not be smaller during wasching;)
[06:59] <juliux> 6'4 ;)
[06:59] <nixternal> excellent
[06:59] <nixternal> holy jesus, another tall drink of water
[07:00] <nixternal> is the XXL long enough on you
[07:00] <nixternal> that is my only issue with XXL shirts
[07:00] <nixternal> i could wear XL, but they are never long enough for me
[07:00] <juliux> i need only xl
[07:03] <nixternal> i can't believe how cheap you are selling those shirts
[07:03] <nixternal> the polo embroidered for me would cost $30
[07:03] <nixternal> hell, i paid $20 for a cafepress t-shirt
[07:04] <juliux> it is not so cheap
[07:04] <juliux> normaly in german a poloshirt cost around 20 
[07:04] <WaterSevenUb> (hhhmmm...translating UWN.... what feature is this:  * New Feature: Community Spotlight - Process of the Week; )
[07:04] <nixternal> $48 for a polo and a t-shirt shipped to the USA is CHEAP
[07:04] <WaterSevenUb> (?)
[07:04] <juliux> but we are an non profit organisation
[07:05] <nixternal> that's awesome. i am definitely going to do one of each, but i am waiting to see if the chicago guys want anything, then we can just do one shipment
[07:05] <juliux> nixternal, we do all the work unpayed in our freetime;)
[07:05] <nixternal> that's the greatness of our comunity
[07:05] <nixternal> juliux: we have been looking for a good place to do shirts for us, and we haven't found anything close to your prices
[07:05] <WaterSevenUb> (regarding the next UWN)
[07:06] <nixternal> WaterSevenUb: #27 or #28?
[07:06] <WaterSevenUb> #27.... 
[07:06] <WaterSevenUb> regarding the next #28
[07:06] <juliux> nixternal, we buyed 50 t-shirts and 100 poloshirts for 1500,-
[07:06] <juliux> nixternal, that is a normal price in germany
[07:06] <nixternal> wow
[07:07] <juliux> and the stickery is made in germany;
[07:09] <nixternal> WaterSevenUb: i have no idea what that feature is. it seems issue 28's Community Spotlight will highlight a "Process of the Week"
[07:09] <nixternal> what that process is i don't know as of right now
[07:09] <WaterSevenUb> .. it's difficult to translate without knowing :) thx anyway.
[07:10] <nixternal> juliux: can you give me the weight of each, 1 polo weighs?  1 t-shirt weighs? that way there we can see how much it will cost us to ship whatever amount we request?
[07:11] <nixternal> what city in germany btw?
[07:11] <juliux> nixternal, if you have more then the two shirts we can send it as a package upto 2kgs it cost 12,90 8shirts are 2kg
[07:11] <juliux> nixternal, i am from dresden;)
[07:11] <juliux> nixternal, same city as pitti;)
[07:11] <nixternal> nice
[07:13] <juliux> nixternal, 5kg package cost 32 10kg package 42 20kg package 42
[07:14] <juliux> nixternal, did you have any idea if we or you have to pay duty?
[07:14] <nixternal> i was wondering the same
[07:16] <juliux> out for dinner;)
[07:17] <WaterSevenUb> other question... you used a script to produce Feisty Changes? I was wondering how easy would be to change it to make easier the translations of Feisty Changes section.
[07:18] <nixternal> i don't know about that, i believe somerville32 or Burgandavia would know more about that
[07:18] <WaterSevenUb> ok...thx again.
[07:19] <nixternal> no problem, sorry i couldn't me of more assistance
[07:27] <nixternal> juliux: you must have a DHL account, if I were to ship a similar package to you, it has quoted me at $191.79 USD :\
[07:38] <juliux> nixternal, i uses deutschepost.de;)
[07:38] <nixternal> ahh
[07:38] <nixternal> i was like how does he ship that cheap
[07:39] <nixternal> juliux: someone also said (i will check into it) that if you post it as a gift, then it is non-dutiable or whatever that word was :)
[07:40] <juliux> nixternal, i will check in the internet how to deal with that problem;
[07:40] <juliux> nixternal, or ask my parents they are sending every year christmas gifts to usa
[07:41] <nixternal> hehe, that will work
[07:42] <juliux> what shirts should i reserve for you?
[07:42] <nixternal> right now 1XXL Polo and 1XXL T-shirt
[07:42] <juliux> ok
[07:42] <juliux> done,)
[07:43] <nixternal> that was easy :)
[07:43] <nixternal> if i dont' hear anything within the next hour or so from the chicago guys, then it will be up to them on getting a shirt :)
[07:44] <juliux> nixternal, it is first come first get
[07:49] <nixternal> Note: Most personal shipments worth up to $200, and gift packages worth up to $100, will pass dutyfree as long as the recipient does not receive multiple packages in a single day whose cumulative value is more than these amounts.
[07:50] <juliux> sounds good
[07:50] <nixternal> that is a government website here in the states
[07:50] <juliux> if we get over the 200$ we will make two packages to two different people;)
[07:51] <nixternal> that is a good idea
[07:51] <nixternal> i wonder where they all are
[07:51] <nixternal> none of the bums work, they are all students pretty much
[07:51] <juliux> nixternal, what time you have in us?
[07:51] <nixternal> almsot 13:00
[07:52] <juliux> that is to early for students;)
[07:54] <nixternal> hehe true
[07:58] <juliux> but i get up very early every day:(
[07:58] <nixternal> i try to
[07:59] <juliux> i have to;) my first course is at 7:30 ;)
[07:59] <nixternal> ya, i will be doing that next week as a matter of fact
[09:41] <juliux> hi tonyyarusso 
[09:42] <tonyyarusso> hi juliux 
[09:44] <jenda> juliux: I have stickers. Tons.
[09:44] <juliux> jenda, did you have a picture?
[09:44] <juliux> jenda, i want to buy some for the expos in germany
[09:45] <jenda> sure
[09:45] <jenda> j'sec
[09:45] <jenda> juliux: http://flickr.com/photos/menza/190241486/
[09:45] <juliux> jenda, can you mail me the price?
[09:46] <jenda> juliux: simple - 2 for 10 small ones or 1 big one.
[09:46] <juliux> good price
[09:46] <tonyyarusso> !seen bueno
[09:46] <ubotu> I haven't seen bueno recently
[09:46] <juliux> yeah edubuntu stickers;)
[09:46] <jenda> lemme check stock
[09:46] <juliux> !benuo
[09:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about benuo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:48] <juliux> jenda, i will buy a lot of stickers;)
[09:49] <jenda> uh oh... bad news :/
[09:49] <jenda> it seems I don't have many of the little ones left.
[09:49] <jenda> (where could they be - did I really ship them all?)
[09:50] <juliux> jenda, then i will take the rest, if possible;)
[09:50] <tonyyarusso> If anyone sees bueno, tell him he can turn off the script.
[09:50] <jenda> sure it's possible, but give me a bit to search.
[09:50] <jenda> juliux: how many would you be interested in? I've been considering a reprint for some time anyway.
[09:51] <juliux> jenda, around 500 or more
[09:51] <juliux> jenda, let me know if you will reprint one, i will check with the rest of the team how much stickers we want
[09:52] <juliux> jenda, but we have around 10 expos in germany this year
[09:53] <jenda> juliux: with such an order, I'll definitely reprint.
[09:53] <juliux> jenda, i will talk with the rest of the team this week
[09:53] <jenda> great
[09:53] <jenda> would you prefer somethnig like that on the picture, or, say brown? :)
[09:54] <jenda> (me looks for pic of old stickers)
[09:54] <jenda> elkbuntu: got any pics of the brown stickers?
[09:54] <juliux> i prefer the powered by stickers
[09:54] <jenda> yes, powered by, but I can make them nice and brown, too ;)
[09:55] <juliux> hm brown?
[09:55] <juliux> pic?
[09:55] <jenda> This is one option: http://commodore.gran.ee/images/designedforubuntu.png
[09:55] <jenda> (changing the text)
[09:56] <jenda> juliux: if you order 500 or more, I can make it German text as well :)
[09:56] <juliux> no powered by is great
[09:56] <jenda> ok
[09:56] <juliux> because it is the same like the windows stickers;)
[09:56] <jenda> eek :)
[09:56] <juliux> i don't like the brown stickers
[09:56] <jenda> and this is the type I've already done: http://www.tikal26.net/ubuntu/Samolepka-EN.png
[09:57] <jenda> or, I can just make it white.
[09:57] <juliux> i like the old style ones;)
[09:57] <jenda> ok
[09:58] <juliux> but i will send all the pics to the teamlist
[09:58] <jenda> they aren't necessarily old style - they're MenZa style. T'means I'll have to dig up the artwork ;)
[09:58] <jenda> hehe, ok.
[09:58] <jenda> It's no problem to dig up, really:
[10:09] <MenZa> jenda: his shirt is awesome, innit?
[10:09] <MenZa> shirts*, are*
[10:09] <jenda> MenZa: perfect :)
[10:09] <MenZa> I got mine today
[10:09] <MenZa> = C'est sexcellent.
[10:09] <jenda> A bit on the expensive side, but perfect :)
[10:09] <MenZa> hah
[10:09] <jenda> MenZa: so did I :)
[10:09] <MenZa> How much are they, apiece?
[10:10] <jenda> 15+4.50
[10:10] <MenZa> What currency's that again? Euro?
[10:10] <MenZa> :d
[10:10] <jenda> yep
[10:10] <juliux> MenZa, yes 
[10:10] <MenZa> I've seen worse.
[10:10] <MenZa> meh, bad irssi
[10:10] <juliux> jenda, the normal price for a polo shirt in DE ist 20-25
[10:11] <MenZa> Yeah, it's not that bad
[10:11] <jenda> juliux: I don't normally buy polos, and never in DE ;)
[10:12] <MenZa> Might order one with a breast pocket once you've got those ready, juliux
[10:12] <MenZa> I wear polos constantly.
[10:12] <jenda> juliux: I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it - just my personal opinion... and budget :)
[10:12] <juliux> jenda, phh, i only buy alcohol in cz;)
[10:12] <MenZa> lol
[10:12] <jenda> I paid for MenZa's with the marketing money, as that's what his stickers will net.
[10:12] <jenda> hehe
[10:13] <juliux> MenZa, in CZ you get the 1l bottle for the price of the 0.7l bottle
[10:13] <jenda> juliux: true, I don't buy much more either ;)
[10:13] <MenZa> lol
[10:13] <juliux> MenZa, and i can travel with my studentticket to cz;)
[10:14] <MenZa> :D
[10:14] <MenZa> nice
[10:14] <MenZa> now
[10:14] <MenZa> Gotta do some stupid project
[10:14] <MenZa> ttyl
[10:15] <jenda> juliux: so, in essence, your country promotes drinking for students?
[10:15] <jenda> Boo!
[10:15] <jenda> :)
[10:15] <juliux> jenda, lol
[10:16] <juliux> jenda, i can take the train until one station bevor the border, then i have to walk aroun 1km;)
[10:18] <jenda> lol :)
[10:18] <jenda> walking there is ok...
[10:19] <jenda> walking back is the problem.
[10:19] <juliux> jenda, most time we drive buy car;)
[10:20] <jenda> Well, driving back would be illegal, wouldn't it? :)
[10:20] <juliux> no
[10:21] <juliux> 12l alcohol is allowed
[10:21] <juliux> or 120l beer;)
[10:21] <juliux> there was only one real controll in the last year
[10:32] <jenda> juliux: is that in the boot or in the blood?
[10:32] <juliux> jenda, LOL
[10:33] <jenda> 120 l is what the average german drinks in a year :)
[10:33] <jenda> Well, the Czech will down it in a mere 9 months ;)
[10:34] <juliux> jenda, yes but we are students
[10:39] <jenda> juliux: that's average vaules ;)
[10:40] <juliux> jenda, i will work that the average will be higher;)
[10:40] <juliux> in 2007;)
[10:41] <jenda> hehe ;)
[10:41] <jenda> This is from the National Geographic, some 2004
[10:46] <beuno> somerville32: great job on getting the UWN out in time
[10:47] <juliux> hi beuno 
[10:47] <somerville32> Thanks :] 
[10:47] <beuno> hey juliux
[10:47] <jenda> oi, beuno
[10:47] <juliux> beuno, <tonyyarusso> If anyone sees bueno, tell him he can turn off the script.
[10:47] <beuno> jenda  ;D
[10:47] <beuno> aaah
[10:47] <jenda> yeah, nice work, somerville32 ;)
[10:47] <beuno> right
[10:47] <beuno> will do now
[10:47] <juliux> somerville32, i let the gobby server running, so feel free to use it;)
[10:47] <beuno> thanks juliux
[10:47] <somerville32> Thanks
[10:47] <somerville32> Now... everyone get working on UWN 28! :D
[10:48] <juliux> beuno, you are welcome
[10:48] <beuno> lol
[10:48] <beuno> somerville32: I'll be working on the Upstart article first
[10:48] <beuno> and getting the DIY website demo up today
[10:48] <somerville32> beuno: We're doing a process of the week this week
[10:48] <beuno> :(
[10:49] <beuno> ok
[10:49] <beuno> I'll do it anyway while I have Scott's attention   :p
[10:58] <beuno> and you can put it in whenever it's needed
[11:04] <juliux> somerville32, you can ask the german kubuntu team about the uwn now in -meeting if you want
[11:09] <jenda> juliux: speaking of stickers - would you be interested in the big round ones? they are really nice, and I've got plenty of them :)
[11:09] <jenda> juliux: I can give you a quantity discount (with a bit of calculation...)
[11:09] <juliux> cool
[11:31] <juliux> nixternal, i said mako that you are organising a shirt shipping to usa;)
[11:31] <jenda> sweet!
[11:38] <nixternal> hehe
[11:39] <nixternal> juliux: paypal the recommended exchange?
[11:39] <juliux> nixternal, paypal is fine
[11:39] <nixternal> did you ask your family about the duty thing?
[11:39] <jenda> shipping to the US requires a customs notice...
[11:39] <juliux> but then 2$ more for the charge;)
[11:39] <nixternal> i know i don't pay any taxes/duty when i receive shipits
[11:40] <jenda> ...you can just write it's a present ;)
[11:40] <juliux> nixternal, not yet, i am not living at home;)
[11:40] <nixternal> jenda knows :)
[11:40] <jenda> hehe
[11:40] <juliux> jenda, ah so i write on the package GIFT and everything is fine?
[11:40] <nixternal> jenda: any idea on how long it will take to get here (days wise)
[11:41] <jenda> juliux: nope, go to the post office, and ask about it.
[11:41] <jenda> nixternal: about a week
[11:41] <nixternal> wow, that is good
[11:41] <jenda> shouldn't be more, unless it's really big.
[11:41] <juliux> jenda, i have the papers here;) and no i see something about duty
[11:41] <nixternal> i was expecting longer since this countries borders and customs are morons
[11:41] <jenda> (if it's going prioritaire)
[11:41] <juliux> jenda, there is a checkbox gift;)
[11:41] <jenda> juliux: I don't think it's in the base prices - you don't _pay_ for it.
[11:42] <jenda> juliux: yes, taht's it ;)
[11:42] <jenda> probably
[11:42] <nixternal> no juliux won't pay for it, i will, which is no biggy as it seems it would only be a few bucks probably
[11:42] <jenda> nixternal: for some reason, prioritaire seems default (in CZ)... the other is by ship, and that could take a month.
[11:42] <nixternal> ya, i can't wait for no stinkin' ship ;)
[11:42] <jenda> nixternal: you don't pay customs if it's a gift either.
[11:43] <nixternal> i need a quality ubuntu shirt to make me look cool :)
[11:43] <juliux> nixternal, sorry i don't get that
[11:43] <nixternal> jenda: ya i found that out, gift <$100 USD == no duty, and even if it isn't a gift, something about it being <$200 == no duty as well
[11:44] <nixternal> juliux: you have the quality ubuntu shirt i need to make me look stupendous (but im sure i will always look stupid) :)
[11:44] <nixternal> as a matter of fact, one of the kubuntu devs could get me a kubuntu t-shirt screenprinted and it would cost me about $40 shipped
[11:44] <jenda> juliux: in CZ, it works like this: I went to the post office and wanted to send my 4th batch of posters - they told me I can't ship to the US without customs notices. They gave me as many of these as I wanted, and I'm to check 'gift' on each, write 'posters' the date, and sign them.
[11:45] <juliux> nixternal, i don't mean the duty i mean the charge for paypal;)
[11:45] <jenda> I pre-made that in OO.org, so I just sign :)
[11:45] <nixternal> $2 charge for paypal? don't bother me, i think that is how they get their kickback
[11:45] <jenda> juliux: paypal won't cost you anything if it's paypal-to-paypal
[11:46] <jenda> they only charge if it's credit-card-to-paypal.
[11:46] <juliux> nixternal, we get 51$ from jenda and we had to pay 2 charge
[11:46] <jenda> your bank might charge
[11:46] <jenda> juliux: I paid by credit.
[11:46] <nixternal> hrmm
[11:46] <nixternal> ahh
[11:46] <nixternal> i will do p2p :)
[11:46] <juliux> jenda, ah
[11:46] <jenda> argh! juliux, that's 2 off your next purchase!
[11:46] <nixternal> lol
[11:46] <juliux> jenda, it is ok;)
[11:46] <nixternal> speaking of that, what do you have for sale jenda?
[11:46] <jenda> nixternal: stickers, as usual.
[11:47] <nixternal> the powered by stickers?
[11:47] <jenda> http://flickr.com/photos/menza/190241486/
[11:47] <nixternal> you realise i have looked at that page 1000000000 times and i always forget :)
[11:47] <jenda> no, I'm out of those - although I'll be printing again, as juliux wants an a**load...
[11:47] <jenda> haha :)
[11:47] <nixternal> hahaha
[11:47] <juliux> jenda, did you think it is possible that i get the stickers at the end of februar?
[11:47] <jenda> I now have tons of the round logo stickers, and the white things.
[11:47] <jenda> juliux: definitely.
[11:48] <juliux> jenda, good
[11:48] <nixternal> the little white things or the big white things :)
[11:48] <jenda> nixternal: big
[11:48] <jenda> I'll be printing the little, however.
[11:48] <nixternal> ya, i want the little and the round, i have a ton of the big ones from canonical that i have to hand out this weekend at our meeting
[11:49] <nixternal> it is great, i am seeing ubuntu stickers all over laptops at the uni now
[11:49] <nixternal> even though most are probably still running Windows :)
[11:49] <jenda> nixternal: MenZa's big ones are bigger than canonicals... and they stick ;)
[11:49] <jenda> hehe
[11:49] <nixternal> haha
[11:50] <nixternal> ya, the canonical ones stick for a month or so and then SLIDE off, they don't even fall off
[11:50] <jenda> nixternal: how many of which are you thinking?
[11:50] <jenda> hehe
[11:50] <nixternal> prices and i will give you the amount
[11:50] <nixternal> 5,000 each?
[11:50] <nixternal> ;p
[11:50] <nixternal> j/k
[11:50] <jenda> I gave juliux the price of 2 for 10 small or each big.
[11:50] <juliux> the first ones from canonical are great
[11:51] <jenda> You can stick to that... or you can use $3 per 10 small ones and $2 for each big, for easiness of calculation :)
[11:51] <nixternal> $2.63 USD isn't to shabby i guess
[11:51] <nixternal> hahahahahahahahahahaha
[11:51] <nixternal> oh
[11:51] <nixternal> jenda: i read you last line as "you can stick that.... or"
[11:51] <jenda> those are my older prices - I just made up what I told juliux ;)
[11:52] <jenda> hehe
[11:52] <nixternal> i love this conver script, it converts everything for me via cli or a right click
[11:52] <nixternal> Kubuntu FTW!
[11:53] <juliux> jenda, we will talk if i know the total number of the stickers we want
[11:53] <nixternal> i need to add some network conversions and some theorems so when i do tests and homework :)
[11:54] <jenda> nixternal: if you could guess how many little ones you could use, it would help me decide if I should print 1000 or 2000
[11:54] <jenda> juliux, nixternal, and if you two can use more than 300 (combined) of Kubuntu, Edubuntu or Xubuntu - I can print that as well.
[11:55] <juliux> jenda, i only want ubuntu and edubuntu;)
[11:55] <jenda> elkbuntu bought all of my Kubuntu, Edubuntu and Xubuntu prints :/
[11:55] <jenda> juliux: ok :)
[11:55] <nixternal> i would probably look at a few sets of each (at least Ubuntu & Kubuntu)
[11:55] <jenda> juliux: please find out the numbers, at latest by the end of January.
[11:55] <juliux> jenda, what is the minimum number?
[11:55] <nixternal> how much are the round ones? and are there Kubuntu ones as well?
[11:56] <jenda> nixternal: you'd have to get 300 of Kubuntu ;)
[11:56] <jenda> no, not round Kubuntu, sorry :/
[11:56] <nixternal> my laptop won't hold 300
[11:56] <nixternal> ;p
[11:56] <jenda> you could try persuading MenZa to make them.
[11:56] <jenda> nixternal: they are $2 apiece
[11:56] <nixternal> next is Hobbsee's pointy stick of doom :)
[11:57] <juliux> jenda, 2 !=2$
[11:57] <nixternal> 2 == $2.63
[11:57] <nixternal> unless that changes again anytime soon
[11:57] <juliux> yes  is more then $ ;)
[11:57] <jenda> juliux: your price is 2 - 2, his is $3 - $2 ;)
[11:57] <juliux> jenda, hehe
[11:57] <jenda> on average, it's quite fair :)
[11:57] <jenda> you can choose either of the tariffs, I s'pose.
[11:58] <nixternal> i seen someone had some little silver stickers somewhere as well
[11:58] <jenda> Although that'll put me at a disadvantage...
[11:58] <nixternal> can't remember where i saw them though
[11:58] <jenda> nixternal: point me to them!!!
[11:58] <jenda> :)
[11:58] <nixternal> i wish i could remember, they were cool
[11:58] <juliux> jenda, i take the 2;)
[11:58] <nixternal> you know what, maybe directron.com had them at one point
[11:58] <jenda> juliux: good :)
[11:58] <juliux> nixternal, i think they are from germany
[11:59] <juliux> nixternal, you mean the metal one?
[11:59] <nixternal> very well could have been. yes the metal ones
[11:59] <juliux> there was a company in german
[11:59] <nixternal> which would go great with the brushed aluminum laptop