[12:01] <mnoir> jewbilee: that is the word 'type' followed by the command you want to find
[12:01] <DARKGuy> Does the "vesa" or "trident" driver support OpenGL/GLX stuff? I know my Trident 9660 can do some D3D in Windows, then I suspect it can do at least some software OpenGL under Linux, right?
[12:01] <theflyingfool> nevermind it is working again
[12:02] <tonyyarusso> juano: In Ubuntu that info is determined by /etc/hosts, so I'm guessing that if it's not working in Windows that's a Windows issue?
[12:02] <imbecile> tonyyarusso,  i cant view the seperate access points (except in networking but i cant connect) and i cant get keyring to initialize.. pretty much the whole thing isnt working
[12:02] <belkin> did anyone installed and used " clamav " ?
[12:02] <mnoir> !anyone | belkin
[12:02] <ubotu> belkin: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:02] <Tenris> Jowi> My bios detects my HD, and there is windows on the disk
[12:03] <Jowi> Tenris, there is a bug reported here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/8978 for the a abit motherboard. see if it rings any bells
[12:03] <belkin> :)
[12:03] <tonyyarusso> imbecile: Had you followed the wiki directions first?
[12:03] <jewbilee> Im trying to run network-manager-gnome but i cant find it
[12:03] <juano> tonyyarusso: yeah, could be, i can get in ubuntu comp with ip form windows, but not by name
[12:03] <riotkittie> tonyyarusso: which file system are you using ?
[12:03] <mnoir> jewbilee: you can also use synaptic to find it
[12:03] <Dormot> burepe you there?
[12:03] <tonyyarusso> juano: I'd look into how the hosts file works in win - should point you in the right direction.
[12:03] <jewbilee> mnoir: ive already installed it
[12:03] <tonyyarusso> riotkittie: ext3
[12:03] <imbecile> tonyyarusso,  nope i suppose i had better try that.. i have rebooted over 30 times with different configs
[12:04] <mnoir> jewbilee: I SAID FIND IT
[12:04] <jewbilee> mnoir: OK CHILL OUT
[12:04] <juano> tonyyarusso: ok thx
[12:04] <auTONYmous> jewbilee: nm-applet
[12:04] <tonyyarusso> imbecile: Well, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager then
[12:04] <Soccrmastr> all: LOL
[12:04] <Soccrmastr> heh 0.o
[12:04] <Dormot> burepe you there?
[12:04] <mnoir> jewbilee: synaptic knows where stuff it installed is located
[12:05] <riotkittie> argh. the only growfs tool ubuntu seems to have works with xfs
[12:05] <auTONYmous> jewbilee is probably looking for the tray icon...its "nm-applet"
[12:05] <belkin> after installing clamav, clamav-data, clamav-freshclam  do i need to chnage anything in the config file to make it work properly ?
[12:05] <Mikey> sorry to interrupt, but did anyone heard of running ralink cardbus wifi card in ubuntu?
[12:05] <jewbilee> its all good
[12:05] <jewbilee> can someone help me with the WEP key though?
[12:05] <jewbilee> do I just copy the key from my router
[12:05] <imbecile> tonyyarusso,  thanks alot man
[12:05] <tonyyarusso> riotkittie: Someone else suggested resize2fs, from e2fsprogs. Looks promising.
[12:05] <jewbilee> or do i need anything before it
[12:06] <tonyyarusso> jewbilee: If what you have is a 26 letter alphanumeric, just copy it in
[12:06] <auTONYmous> jewbilee: after you load the applet, you need to set add the network to the list. You'll have a place to put the key in
[12:06] <riotkittie> tonyyarusso: ahh, cool. hopefully it works
[12:06] <pianoboy3333> Can anyone help print to a HP LaserJet 1000 connected to a Windows XP machine on my house network? I'm on edgy/gnome.
[12:06] <theflyingfool>  does this make sence to anyone nicholas@TheBeast:~$ sudo nvidia-glx-config
[12:06] <theflyingfool> Password:
[12:06] <theflyingfool> /usr/sbin/nvidia-glx-config called with unknown command:
[12:06] <theflyingfool> Usage: /usr/sbin/nvidia-glx-config [enable|disable] 
[12:06] <theflyingfool> nicholas@TheBeast:~$ sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[12:06] <theflyingfool> Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[12:06] <theflyingfool> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[12:07] <auTONYmous> pianoboy3333: add printer -> choose SMB printer...the rest should be self-explanatory
[12:07] <pianoboy3333> auTONYmous: I thought so too, but that's not working for me
[12:07] <tonyyarusso> !paste | theflyingfool
[12:07] <ubotu> theflyingfool: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[12:07] <mnoir> !flood | theflyingfool (should be thefloodingfool)
[12:07] <ubotu> theflyingfool (should be thefloodingfool): pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:07] <theflyingfool> when is it considered a flood?
[12:07] <auTONYmous> pianoboy3333: can you browse your XP computer through the "Places" panel?
[12:08] <owh> theflyingfool: When you paste more than two lines :-)
[12:08] <mirak> is there something like window supercopier on linux for Gnome ???
[12:08] <mnoir> theflyingfool: around here + than like 1 line
[12:08] <mnoir> owh - izzat official :)?
[12:08] <jrib> theflyingfool: use nvidia-xconfig instead
[12:08] <jrib> theflyingfool: (if you are using edgy)
[12:08] <elyon225> How do I change the gnome splash screen?
[12:08] <owh> mnoir: No, just the point at which I become annoyed :-)
[12:08] <mnoir> owh: tnx :)
[12:08] <jrib> !nvidia | theflyingfool
[12:08] <ubotu> theflyingfool: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:08] <Silver_Seagull> pianoboy3333: I am no pro, have you been to this resource? http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_1000
[12:09] <pianoboy3333> auTONYmous: yes... Places -> Network Servers -> Windows Servers -> MSHOME -> SUPERCOMPUTER
[12:09] <mnoir> !splash | elyon225
[12:09] <ubotu> elyon225: To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image using !gconf-editor
[12:09] <auTONYmous> ok. Have you shared the printer out (From XP)?
[12:09] <riotkittie> your workgroup is named MSHOME?!
[12:09] <riotkittie> dude.
[12:10] <jewbilee> I went through a tutorial for Ndiswrapper, followed it exactly, and I still cant get my wireless to work
[12:10] <auTONYmous> don't kill him...
[12:10] <ScreaminIke> a default 6.10 install, then "sudo apt-get install mythtv -y" doesn't get me a working mythtv. looks like an error communicating with MySQL ... can someone hold my hand a bit?
[12:10] <elyon225> mnoir: Where IS the gnome splash screen manager?
[12:10] <mnoir> riotkittie: izznt that the default?
[12:10] <riotkittie> auTONYmous: ok :P
[12:10] <riotkittie> mnoir: yes.
[12:10] <ikonia> ScreaminIke you have to configure it
[12:10] <Silver_Seagull> riotkittie: You'd die if you knew how many people I know with their router admin password as blank or 'admin'
[12:11] <mnoir> elyon225: i do not know - ya might try !gnome-splashscreen-manager
[12:11] <elyon225> mnoir: I did.
[12:11] <auTONYmous> you'd really die if you knew how many people actually thought WEP is secure...
[12:11] <mnoir> hmm - too bad i run kde
[12:11] <Mikey> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/879/plain/
[12:11] <ScreaminIke> how, ikonia?
[12:11] <riotkittie> Silver_Seagull: hahah, no. i wouldnt die. as much as these things surprise me... they dont /really/ surprise me.
[12:12] <mnoir> elyon225: so you've instaslled it?
[12:12] <lupine_85> auTONYmous: it's scary, isn't it? :p
[12:12] <elyon225> mnoir: Ah.  no.
[12:12] <lupine_85> my local primary school uses WEP
[12:12] <lupine_85> (local as in, directly opposite me)
[12:12] <mnoir> elyon225: so what part of that helpful ! thingie did you use?
[12:12] <h3xis> wep isnt as weak as people think it is
[12:13] <auTONYmous> lupine_85: many companies bought WEP-only equipment prior to all the holes being exploited, and don't want to spend money upgrading
[12:13] <mirak> is there something like window supercopier on linux for Gnome ???
[12:13] <DigitalNinja> does anyone know if you can get a license for w32codecs?
[12:13] <Mikey> can you point me to this walkthrough for wireless please?
[12:13] <Silver_Seagull> Startup conundrum.  Knoppix LiveDVD 5.1.0 runs fine and smooth on my PC, however Ubuntu (the distro I want) won't start the xserver.  I've tried dpkg-reconfigure and setting all the correct values by hand, but no love.  Advice?
[12:13] <ScreaminIke> h3xis, a 4-person access point with MINIMAL web browsing can be cracked in 3 days. with heavy bw usage, you might crack it in an hour or two
[12:13] <jrib> mirak: what does it do?
[12:13] <pianoboy3333> Can anyone help print to a HP LaserJet 1000 connected to a Windows XP machine on my house network? I'm on edgy/gnome. When I try and print anything, when I click System -> Admin. -> Printing -> (right click on my printer) Properties, under status it says "Printing: No %%BoundingBox: comment in header!"
[12:13] <riotkittie> !=weak as people think it is == still weak
[12:13] <elyon225> mnoir: Well, see... it didn't specify that it needed to be installed.  After reinstalling Ubuntu, I'm missing a lot of apps that were included the first time (including an app to change the splash screen).  I didn't have to install something different the first time and I assumed I wouldn't have to this time either.
[12:13] <hjmills> !wifi | Mikey
[12:13] <ubotu> Mikey: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:13] <h3xis> ScreaminIke, depends on the version of WEP being used
[12:13] <lupine_85> ...but most upgrades are just firmware updates..s
[12:13] <elyon225> mnoir: Without patience, I think you're in the wrong channel.
[12:14] <Mikey> hjmills thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaankyou
[12:14] <mirak> jrib: when you copy files from folder to folder it queues them. if run two concurrent copy it queue them, so hard drive doesn't crush to death
[12:14] <auTONYmous> pianoboy3333: check the printer properties, and turn off the header page
[12:14] <mirak> jrib: and be inoptimal
[12:14] <lupine_85> h3xis: erm, no. All wep is easily hackable. Some WPA is, also
[12:14] <ScreaminIke> wep has a bad predictable "psuedo-random" number string.
[12:14] <pianoboy3333> auTONYmous: ok...
[12:14] <h3xis> lupine_85, erm, no. i suggest you look up the differing versions
[12:14] <riotkittie> Silver_Seagull: is it locking up, or just not loading ?
[12:14] <lupine_85> what, 40bit or 128bit keys?
[12:14] <h3xis> WEP is not the same as it was years ago
[12:14] <h3xis> lupine_85, no
[12:14] <h3xis> lupine_85, WEP+
[12:14] <h3xis> lupine_85, for example.
[12:14] <pianoboy3333> auTONYmous: now I have "Printing: Unable to connect to CIFS host, will retry in 60 seconds..."
[12:14] <lupine_85> ...which isn't WEP...
[12:14] <h3xis> lupine_85, yes it is
[12:15] <lupine_85> no, it's WEP+ :p
[12:15] <yuv656> hello, how do I use widescreen (1280x800) on my HP pavilion dv5205?
[12:15] <h3xis> lupine_85, ph pfft :P
[12:15] <caminomaster> hello
[12:15] <lupine_85> does it work on WEP-only equipment?
[12:15] <auTONYmous> pianoboy3333: Oh...you do have a communication problem to the printer. I think that link to linuxprinting.org can help with that
[12:15] <riotkittie> thats like saying a whopper junior is a whopper. ;p
[12:15] <caminomaster> what command show me the ati memory?
[12:15] <auTONYmous> pianoboy3333: google "linux samba printing"
[12:15] <ikonia> caminomaster I don't think is one
[12:15] <Silver_Seagull> riotkittie: After the progress bar gets to ~95%, I get funny colored lines of dots across the logo and it sits like a rock.  I can't kill anything or drop to console, but the machine isn't hardlocked: my Numlock still responds :P
[12:15] <pianoboy3333> auTONYmous: yea.... I'm having problems pinging the computer, I need to fix that first...
[12:15] <h3xis> lupine_85, well, i attended a seminar some time ago about wireless security and it's been implemented into several devices but is advertised as just WEP
[12:16] <lupine_85> caminomaster: lspci will usually give you some luck
[12:16] <lupine_85> h3xis: advertising != reality
[12:16] <auTONYmous> well, the average garden variety home router purchased in the past year or so probably has WEP or WPA, not WEP+
[12:16] <h3xis> lupine_85, sure it does
[12:16] <lupine_85> mm, so why is my BB 8x slower than advertised?
[12:16] <riotkittie> Silver_Seagull: ahh. what kind of vid card do you have?
[12:16] <lupine_85> marketing bods don't have a clue
[12:16] <h3xis> lupine_85, because it's a POS?
[12:17] <yuv656> hello, how do I use widescreen (1280x800) on my HP pavilion dv5205?
[12:17] <foob> when i type "sudo ntfsmount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1/ -o umask=0007" i get: "Use the force option to work a mounted filesystem. Mount failed." What should I do?
[12:17] <Silver_Seagull> riotkittie: ATi X1900xtx 512MB in a PCI-e slot
[12:17] <imbecile> Please someone help me, my nm-applet isnt working and in session it says its disabled heres a screenshot if anyone can tell me what to do http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/3879/screenshot1fm4.th.png
[12:17] <riotkittie> oops. toddler approaching my computer. eek.
[12:17] <lupine_85> no, because calling a bit a byte doesn't make it 8x larger. Similarly, calling an incompatible protocol (WEP+) 'WEP' doesn't make it WEP
[12:17] <riotkittie> imbecile: click 'enable'?
[12:17] <riotkittie> Silver_Seagull: ahh. cant help you there.
[12:17] <Silver_Seagull> riotkittie: but like I said, Knoppix runs perfectly
[12:18] <riotkittie> brb
[12:18] <imbecile> riotkittie, i can only click disable
[12:18] <h3xis> lupine_85, windows or any other OS sees WEP+ as WEP and it connects. it's not like WPA and WPA2.
[12:18] <checkmate> imbecile, is that pic a thumbnail? i can't make it large
[12:18] <mooey> imbecile, the --sm-disable doesn't mean its actually disabled
[12:18] <mooey> checkmate, http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/3879/screenshot1fm4.png
[12:18] <lupine_85> but can WEP equipment use WEP+ encryption?
[12:18] <riotkittie> imbecile: oh. well. oh. :P  i should have known that was the case.
[12:18] <lupine_85> without firmware updates, etc?
[12:18] <h3xis> lupine_85, depends on the firmware
[12:19] <lupine_85> exactly
[12:19] <lupine_85> WEP != WEP+. end.
[12:19] <h3xis> lupine_85, im stubborn. i r teh winnar.
[12:20] <riotkittie> h3xis: indeed you are. stubborn, that is :P
[12:20] <yuv656> hello, how do I use widescreen (1280x800) on my HP pavilion dv5205?
[12:20] <h3xis> riotkittie, ^^
[12:20] <Mikey> it ralink suported at all, becasue i cant find it in the wiki =\
[12:20] <ikonia> yuv656 configure Xorg
[12:20] <h3xis> Mikey, yes
[12:20] <lupine_85> Mikey: ralink are /all/ supported
[12:20] <Mikey> thx h3xis
[12:20] <lupine_85> and recommended by the FSF, no less :)
[12:20] <lupine_85> Use Edgy for greater ease of use (more recent drivers)
[12:21] <imbecile> checkmate,  oops http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1fm4.png
[12:21] <i3d> If I want to shrink a dvd-9 dvd to dvd-5, any tools avail under Linux?
[12:21] <Soccrmastr> in your display settings you can change resolution of the screen
[12:21] <auTONYmous> i3d: xdvdshrink
[12:21] <i3d> auTONYmous: that's not an app under wine right? I mean native?
[12:21] <auTONYmous> yes, native
[12:22] <i3d> auTONYmous: great!
[12:22] <riotkittie> after my experience with the live cd, i ph33r an edgy install.  i suppose itd be alright if i used the alt disc but there's something ridiculousy satisfying about being able to goof off online during an install ;p
[12:22] <auTONYmous> i3d: hence, the "X"DVDSHRINK name...
[12:22] <imbecile> mooey,  what does the "disabled" mean? i know i have the app i just cant get it working
[12:22] <ikonia> riotkittie I'm in the processes of returning to 6.0.6 - edgy just doesn't have the polish
[12:22] <Soccrmastr> wtf, Im upating to 6.10 as we speak
[12:22] <linuxnewbie756> is there a way i can get my drives on my desktop (ipod, cd drives, etc) to show up without any text?
[12:22] <kane77> i3d, k9copy
[12:22] <Soccrmastr> lol
[12:22] <Silver_Seagull> Does anyone know how to boot the Ubuntu CD to a command line?  6.06 or 6.10, either or.
[12:23] <knoppix> hello
[12:23] <riotkittie> ikonia: yeah, i am not sure there's real reason for me to update. dapper works just fine.
[12:23] <mnoir> riotkittie: i did 2 upg with no problem but lots of folks hv had lots of problems
[12:23] <ikonia> riotkittie its using technology with some serious mainstream bugs (not that other distros aren't) and it has some quesionable future proof decisions in it
[12:23] <i3d> auTONYmous: Thanks for sharing! btw, does it remove the region code and multiencryption stuff?
[12:24] <auTONYmous> i3d: don't quite know that much...I have it installed, but haven't used it yet
[12:24] <Soccrmastr> Im on fetching and installing updates
[12:24] <Soccrmastr> in the temrinal drop down box says Configuring console seyup
[12:24] <i3d> auTONYmous: I see.. I will give it a try
[12:24] <Soccrmastr> and has a list of choices
[12:24] <Soccrmastr> what do I choose?
[12:24] <i3d> auTONYmous: Thanks!!
[12:24] <lupine_85> edgy > dapper :p
[12:24] <lupine_85> except for the dash stuff
[12:24] <auTONYmous> lupine_85: I second that
[12:24] <mooey> imbecile, the --sm-disable - i dont know what it means, but it wont stop it running. if you run nm-applet from a terminal, does it fire up OK?
[12:24] <ikonia> lupine_85 all depends on your hardware and configuration
[12:25] <lupine_85> true, I guess
[12:25] <Mikey> i got a problem tho, when i first run ubuntu install, it detected the card (ra0) and then after setting up all the wireles things its froze, no it wont detect it again
[12:25] <auTONYmous> IMO Edgy > Fedora 6 > SuSE whatever
[12:25] <lupine_85> but Free software is updated so quickly, LTS becomes stale IMO :/
[12:25] <blanky> I'm open to questions!
[12:25] <riotkittie> ikonia: ahhh, thank you! i have been asking for peoples thoughts on edgy for a while now, and it seems youre the first to give me an opinion with some measure of substance to it
[12:25] <ikonia> lupine_85 I think LTS will start to move quicker
[12:26] <auTONYmous> blanky: Why does man engage in warfare?
[12:26] <imbecile> mooey,  do i just type nm-applet in terminal?
[12:26] <riotkittie> imbecile: yes
[12:26] <mooey> imbecile, i guess, yea. its been a long while since i used networkmanager :}
[12:26] <lupine_85> ikonia: they can't do backports fast enough, really
[12:26] <demboch> join torun
[12:26] <imbecile> mooey,  then no it doesnt work
[12:26] <blanky> auTONYmous: it happens when one group has more cookies than another group
[12:26] <auTONYmous> imbecile: or open System > Preferences > Session Manager and add it to start
[12:26] <ikonia> riotkittie thank you, I do try to substantiate rather than jump on the xgl band wagon
[12:26] <auTONYmous> blanky: LOL
[12:26] <mooey> imbecile, what does it do?
[12:26] <ikonia> lupine_85 thats true - but I think that will pick up
[12:26] <blanky> thanks pengy, now I will not engage in warfare
[12:26] <lupine_85> maintaining stability is all well and good, especially for server, but dapper doesn't make sense for the desktop really
[12:26] <lupine_85> (my servers run dapper)
[12:26] <imbecile> mooey,  nothing
[12:26] <auTONYmous> I'd wage war over chewy Oatmeal Raisins
[12:27] <ikonia> lupine_85 but I believe the unofficial focus is on the desktop product
[12:27] <riotkittie> lupine_85: why doesnt it make sense for the desktop?
[12:27] <Soccrmastr> Im updating from Xubuntu 6.06 to 6.10, Im on the third step fetching and installing the upgrades, the terminal drop down box is opened and says Ubuntu configuartion, and it is then a ist titled Configuring console-setup. then a lsit of diffrent things what do i choose?
[12:27] <mooey> imbecile, thats correct then. it should do nothing in the terminal but put an icon in your system tray
[12:27] <imbecile> auTONYmous,  i already did that
[12:27] <lupine_85> because users generally want new :p
[12:27] <mooey> Soccrmastr, what are the options?
[12:27] <imbecile> mooey,  how do i do that?
[12:27] <ikonia> lupine_85 I find morons normally want new - users want stability
[12:27] <Mikey> i always get quezzy when its asking me to format partitions :(
[12:27] <mooey> imbecile, look next to the clock. the network manager icon will be there.
[12:28] <blanky> Soccrmastr: yeah, what are the options?
[12:28] <riotkittie> yea. give me reliability over freshness any day
[12:28] <ikonia> lupine_85 thats not to say people with brains don't mind experimenting, or maintaining their own systems
[12:28] <Flannel> lupine_85: desktop -- think enterprise, they don't care about using the newest stuff, they want stability
[12:28] <Soccrmastr> there are a BUNCh of option, lemme name a few:
[12:28] <auTONYmous> ikonia: some users want "add this <insert desired feature here>"...which breeds instability
[12:28] <mooey> Soccrmastr, you can always pastebin the console :}
[12:28] <ikonia> totally understand what lupins saying though
[12:28] <blanky> Soccrmastr: why not just take a screenshot or paste it?
[12:28] <blanky> !paste | Soccrmastr
[12:28] <ubotu> Soccrmastr: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[12:28] <lupine_85> mm, perhaps. IME, "linux NEW" == "better", not just "new"
[12:28] <aN1> help im using the alternative install cd parted complain the attempt to mount a file system with type vfatin scsi3 partition #3 at /xp+edgy failed
[12:28] <imbecile> mooey,  i see the network connection icon
[12:28] <blanky> Soccrmastr:  paste what the console says into the pastebin
[12:28] <Soccrmastr> ok
[12:28] <ikonia> auTONYmous most people who want X feature in a sensible way are on the ball to maintain it themselves, its the morons who jump in "I want xgl !!!!"
[12:29] <ikonia> lupine_85 nahhhh
[12:29] <BULLE> hi, where can i get hold of the bcm43xx firmware cutter application, for ubuntu 6.10 ?
[12:29] <mooey> imbecile, if you right click it and click about it should say network manager applet
[12:29] <ikonia> lupine_85 look at the 2.6.16 kernel
[12:29] <ikonia> 34 point releases
[12:29] <ikonia> becasuse it was a mess in the end
[12:29] <imbecile> mooey,  it doesnt though
[12:29] <blanky> ikonia: why are they morons? If they want Xgl then let them have it
[12:29] <mooey> imbecile, im not sure then, sorry :-(
[12:29] <riotkittie> i can live without xgl. then again, with an 8MB gfx card, i sorta kinda have to ;p
[12:29] <lupine_85> never touched 2.6.16 :p
[12:30] <imbecile> mooey,  thanks anyways
[12:30] <lupine_85> 2.6.12->.15->.17->.20
[12:30] <ikonia> blanky I was using that as example - I want application X.1 because its newer
[12:30] <blanky> ikonia: ah :)
[12:30] <auTONYmous> ikonia: hmm...I don't know how to take that comment, except that I want AIGLX in the binary drivers...
[12:30] <lupine_85> and when you look at, for instance, wireless support in dapper vs. wireless support in edgy...
[12:30] <imbecile> i think i may have to reformat for the third time this week :(
[12:30] <ikonia> blanky xgl is the most common "I want" question, perhaps a bad example
[12:30] <riotkittie> imbecile: why ??
[12:30] <variant> lupine_85: aiglx is part of the xorg server
[12:30] <BULLE> lupine_85: wireless support, now we are talking!
[12:30] <ikonia> auTONYmous it was a bad example
[12:30] <lupine_85> variant: well, yes
[12:30] <ikonia> lupine_85 much better in dapper
[12:30] <lupine_85> ?
[12:30] <lupine_85> xorg-air?
[12:31] <ikonia> no wireless support
[12:31] <BULLE> lupine_85: im looking for the broadcom firmware cutter, for the bcm43xx driver
[12:31] <lupine_85> lol
[12:31] <imbecile> riotkittie,  i cannot get nm-applet running no matter what.. ive changed settings and rebooted 30 times
[12:31] <lupine_85> BULLE. I have illegal firmware somewhere... hang on
[12:31] <riotkittie> wireless has gone downhill in edgy?
[12:31] <ikonia> riotkittie not quite, more choice but less stable
[12:31] <riotkittie> 38 times? youre counting? :P
[12:31] <ikonia> so depends on your point of view
[12:32] <lupine_85> BULLE: http://www.lupine.me.uk/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-firmware.tar.gz
[12:32] <lupine_85> will do the trick for you
[12:32] <BULLE> lupine_85: thanks!
[12:32] <riotkittie> ah. i already have one distro with wireless problems. dont need two ;p
[12:32] <auTONYmous> wireless card vendor support varies from "works perfectly" to "won't work at all no matter what you do"
[12:32] <imbecile> riotkittie,  no i said 30 but it has actually been more :(
[12:32] <ikonia> ahhh lupine_85 a uk user. Plesure to meet you
[12:32] <lupine_85> otherwise, the firmware cutter is in universe; a search for fwcutter will bring it up
[12:32] <variant> BULLE: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1105667
[12:32] <lupine_85> :)
[12:32] <ikonia> auTONYmous thats very true
[12:32] <riotkittie> i suppose its not my other distro with wireless problems but my lack of know-how tho
[12:32] <riotkittie> imbecile: hold a sec
[12:32] <lupine_85> seriously, /all/ wireless support is better in edgy
[12:32] <Mikey> imbecile: i know whats wrong, you restarted too many times =P
[12:33] <lupine_85> broadcom, atheros, ralink (especially ralink)...
[12:33] <variant> riotkittie: feisty should have much improved wifi support
[12:33] <ikonia> lupine_85 I disagree, but I guess with most things it depends what your using
[12:33] <imbecile> Mikey,  probably hehe its driving me nuts
[12:33] <BULLE> variant: well, that is for ndiswrapper, i prefer to use the in kernel bc43xx driver
[12:33] <aN1>  help im using the alternative install cd parted complain the attempt to mount a file system with type vfat in scsi3 partition #3 at /xp+edgy failed
[12:34] <auTONYmous> ndiswrapper just seems evil to me for some reason
[12:34] <variant> BULLE: sorry, i didn't really look at the link :)
[12:34] <ikonia> aN1 ignore it - mount it later
[12:34] <kane77> lupine_85, I had no trouble with ralink.. (that's why I'm using ubuntu now... I was looking for the right distro and in no other my wificard worked... only in ubuntu...)
[12:34] <ikonia> also look at the moount point name
[12:34] <BULLE> auTONYmous: to me aswell, but if its the only solution
[12:34] <ikonia> remove the +
[12:34] <Mikey> imbecile: i hope that one restart it will all start working, and youll clock up loads of days uptime ;)
[12:34] <imbecile> hehe this is not the day to quit smoking
[12:34] <BULLE> kane77: ralink are nice though, they provide gpl licenced source code for their drivers
[12:34] <Soccrmastr> w/e I couldnt get it to copy so i wrote it out
[12:34] <aN1> ikonia i am just creating it rite now itz unpartitioned
[12:34] <Soccrmastr> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/882/
[12:34] <riotkittie> imbecile: hahahahahahaha
[12:34] <variant> aN1: try not to use +- type charachters in file names
[12:34] <Soccrmastr> thats the whole lsit in order
[12:34] <belkin> for a better performance what Virtual Machine would be better to install, win4Lin or vmware ? anyone of them allows me to play windows games ?
[12:35] <ikonia> aN1 unwise to do so at install time
[12:35] <aN1> variant ok i tried with unsorteddl before it still fail
[12:35] <lupine_85> BULLE: yep, and it demonstrates exactly how badly vendors write drivers :p
[12:35] <auTONYmous> belkin: neither? depends on the game
[12:35] <lupine_85> belkin: neither will
[12:35] <lupine_85> you probably want wine or cedega
[12:35] <belkin> lupine_85 why not ?
[12:35] <variant> belkin: you wont be playing games in a virtualised environment (not 3d games anyway)
[12:35] <aN1> ikonia ok so i should leave it unpartitoned and do it later?
[12:35] <lupine_85> no 3D acceleration...
[12:35] <ikonia> yup
[12:35] <DeathFox> in the xserver config is NV nvidia?
[12:35] <auTONYmous> belkin: Solitair, yeah, go for it...Unreal Tournament? Install XP and forget Linux
[12:35] <ikonia> and remove the + from the mount point name
[12:35] <aN1> ikonia ok thx
[12:35] <Soccrmastr> blanky: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/882/ thats the lsit I wrote it out exactly in order
[12:35] <lupine_85> DeathFox: the non-3D Free nVidia driver
[12:35] <belkin> auTONYmous ok
[12:35] <variant> auTONYmous: there is a native unreal tournament linux client
[12:35] <lupine_85> nvidia is the binary nvidia driver
[12:35] <DeathFox> which one is normal
[12:35] <DeathFox> ?
[12:36] <auTONYmous> IDK
[12:36] <LjL> yipe, ok, i googled. "Cittaslow, which is Italian for "slow city" or "slow town" is an international network of towns." <- makes no sense. it is not "italian", it's a compound made by a badly-spelled italian *and* a totally english word
[12:36] <auTONYmous> *shrug*
[12:36] <ikonia> DeathFox define normal
[12:36] <DeathFox> sigh
[12:36] <DeathFox> a normal nvidia geforce card 1
[12:36] <Soccrmastr> mooey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/882/ there is the list i wrote it out
[12:36] <riotkittie> oh well. i am feeling masochistic. i think i'll go read some HOW-TOs :P
[12:36] <lupine_85> auTONYmous: Unreal Tournament for winxp works in cedega
[12:36] <auTONYmous> lupine_85: UT or UT2004?
[12:36] <kane77> why there arent fortune mods? (at least not as many...)
[12:36] <blanky> Soccrmastr: hold on
[12:36] <DeathFox> not non 3d
[12:36] <variant> lupine_85: there is a linux NATIVE client
[12:36] <lupine_85> DeathFox: do you want 3D graphics?
[12:36] <DeathFox> ya
[12:36] <aN1> oh one more thing putting ubuntu on logical partition is ok rite?
[12:36] <belkin> variant fair enough then thanks
[12:36] <lupine_85> variant: mm, but you have to pay again for it, right?
[12:36] <DeathFox> i installed my driver
[12:36] <variant> lupine_85: no
[12:36] <DeathFox> im just trying to configure the thing
[12:36] <lupine_85> DeathFox: then "nvidia"
[12:37] <blanky> Soccrmastr: what does this have to do with?
[12:37] <DeathFox> its not listed
[12:37] <blanky> does the console say?
[12:37] <blanky> or does it just give you the options
[12:37] <variant> lupine_85: just download the linux bin and use the windows cd
[12:37] <lupine_85> variant: ooh, they did an Atari?
[12:37] <lupine_85> coolio
[12:37] <Tenris> Hi, when I try to start and install ubuntu ( with desktop iso ), I have PCI : Error while updating region
[12:37] <imbecile> ok you guys i think im gonna reformat.. lets have a vote.... dapper or edgy?
[12:37] <h3xis> variant, there is a linux sh on the DVD/CD
[12:37] <lupine_85> edgy :D
[12:37] <kane77> dapper
[12:37] <auTONYmous> edgy +
[12:37] <kane77> :D
[12:37] <imbecile> lol
[12:37] <mnoir> imbecile: 6.06
[12:37] <variant> h3xis: oh yeah, on cd3 or somthing on ut2003/4/5/5/6
[12:37] <jrib> Tenris: if you don't want to upgrade for a long time, dapper, otherwise edgy
[12:37] <lupine_85> h3xis: how is dependency hell going with it?
[12:37] <aN1> imbecile i had to reformat yeasterday cuz i messed up gparted
[12:37] <Soccrmastr> blank: its like blue background, the top says in yellow Ubuntu Configuartion. then theres a gray box in the middle with a list that says inr ed Configuring console-setup, then underneath encoding the consoe: then that list
[12:37] <h3xis> lupine_85, what?
[12:37] <Soccrmastr> then I can choose either OK or cancel
[12:38] <lupine_85> e.g. try to play savage linux client in dapper... or edgy
[12:38] <jrib> Tenris: wrong person, sorry :/
[12:38] <Soccrmastr> savage owns
[12:38] <Tenris> jrib> oki
[12:38] <DeathFox> lupine_85 nvidia isent in my list
[12:38] <jrib> imbecile: if you don't want to upgrade for a long time, dapper, otherwise edgy
[12:38] <lupine_85> it's binary-only, so depends on ancient binary library versions
[12:38] <h3xis> lupine_85, i didnt have any dependency problems with ut
[12:38] <Tenris> Someone has a solution ?
[12:38] <lupine_85> DeathFox: then install it
[12:38] <aN1> ikonia, ubuntu is ok being on a logical partion rite?
[12:38] <lupine_85> h3xis: cool
[12:38] <h3xis> kane77, hey, how's the wireless situation
[12:38] <ikonia> aN1 yes its fine
[12:38] <DeathFox> i installed the driver for my card... sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[12:38] <aN1> ikonia hehe thx again
[12:38] <compsman> i need help with wine
[12:38] <DeathFox> isent that it?
[12:38] <aN1> ikonia yeah cuz xp is jacking up on a logical
[12:39] <kane77> h3xis, I'm going to buy router tomorow
[12:39] <aN1> ikonia just wondering thx : )
[12:39] <imbecile> jrib,  i cant keep it working for over a week anyways ;P
[12:39] <auTONYmous> compsman: Alcoholics Anonymous can helop
[12:39] <ikonia> DeathFox https://wiki.ubuntu.com - search for nvidia for instructions
[12:39] <h3xis> kane77, awesome. make sure it's NOT a version 7
[12:39] <DeathFox> sigh
[12:39] <variant> lots of linux games in 2007 me thinks
[12:39] <kane77> h3xis, version of what?
[12:39] <compsman> i have it working
[12:39] <h3xis> kane77, the router
[12:39] <ikonia> aN1 xp will only be the first partition on the primary disk - nothing else, nothing to do with it being logical
[12:39] <Soccrmastr> blanky: did you get my last message??
[12:39] <lupine_85> nwn2 hopefully
[12:39] <compsman> but my games wont work online
[12:39] <blanky> Soccrmastr: the paste?
[12:39] <variant> lupine_85: noep :/
[12:39] <h3xis> kane77, youre buying a wrt54g right?
[12:40] <Soccrmastr> blanky: its like blue background, the top says in yellow Ubuntu Configuartion. then theres a gray box in the middle with a list that says inr ed Configuring console-setup, then underneath encoding the consoe: then that list
[12:40] <kane77> h3xis, yes
[12:40] <blanky> Soccrmastr: okay hold on
[12:40] <blanky> Soccrmastr: is there one that's selected by default?
[12:40] <kane77> h3xis,
[12:40] <kane77> h3xis, http://195.80.169.118/default.asp?cls=stoitem&stiid=8347
[12:40] <variant> lupine_85: it uses directX not openGL
[12:40] <variant> lupine_85: so no linux native clent
[12:40] <lupine_85> mm, right now
[12:41] <h3xis> kane77, that's even better! it's the L :D
[12:41] <Soccrmastr> blanky: hmm well I alrede moved through the lsit so not sure now 0.o LOL should I restart?
[12:41] <h3xis> kane77, okay nevermind then about versions :P
[12:41] <kane77> h3xis, going for this one... (dont know if there's version stated)
[12:41] <lupine_85> last I heard they were waiting for OpenGL 2.0 to stabilise
[12:41] <blanky> Soccrmastr: do you vaguely remember?
[12:41] <stev1> getting some problems accessing the ubuntu update servers using apt-get update - messages like "Temporary failure resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'" - please does anyone know why? (er.... or is it just me...?)
[12:41] <variant> lupine_85: last i hear there were no plans for a port
[12:41] <blanky> For Smart People: What is the encoding I should choose for the console? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/882/
[12:41] <lupine_85> mm, suppose we'll have to wait and see
[12:41] <auTONYmous> stev1: behind a proxy?
[12:41] <stev1> nope
[12:41] <kane77> h3xis, i'm going to bed...
[12:41] <blanky> Soccrmastr: U.S.A. ?
[12:41] <imbecile> k guys wish me luck, im off to reformat
[12:42] <Soccrmastr> blanky: might have been one of the KOI-R or KOI-U or ones around that not above the big ISO lsit and not at the bottom
[12:42] <h3xis> kane77, alright
[12:42] <Soccrmastr> blanky: yes USA
[12:42] <kane77> h3xis, tomorow I have to go to work and stuff...
[12:42] <h3xis> kane77, ha yeah. i go back to school
[12:42] <blanky> anyone?
[12:42] <kane77> good night everybody!
[12:42] <blanky> Guys: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/882/ , what encoding should I choose if I'm in the USA?
[12:42] <auTONYmous> stev1: can you go to it in Firefox? (http://us.archive.ubuntu.com)
[12:42] <imbecile> kane77,  goodnight
[12:43] <ikonia> blanky come on.......
[12:43] <h3xis> blanky, i know you need utk-8
[12:43] <h3xis> blanky, utf-8*
[12:43] <blanky> ikonia: what?
[12:43] <vmfight> ciao
[12:43] <blanky> h3xis: ISO-8859-8 ?
[12:43] <ikonia> just use utf-8
[12:43] <blanky> oh right
[12:43] <k31th> Anyon know a decent web designer ?
[12:43] <lupine_85> nvu ?
[12:43] <blanky> wow I'm so stupid I didn't see that there before
[12:43] <lupine_85> kate?
[12:43] <Soccrmastr> blanky: lol
[12:43] <blanky> Soccrmastr: UTF-8
[12:43] <aN1> ikonia yeah ur rite. xp just need to be the first one hehe thx
[12:43] <ikonia> k31th tons
[12:44] <stev1> auTONYmous: thanks - yes i can  - the argonne labs public mirror right?
[12:44] <Soccrmastr> blanky: Ok thanks lol
[12:44] <ikonia> aN1 i know this ;)
[12:44] <k31th> ikonia: ?
[12:44] <mnoir> either me or quanta plus, depending on what you mean
[12:44] <k31th> I need a site making.
[12:44] <plerk> how do I get flash 9?
[12:44] <k31th> ikonia: Are they on irc?
[12:44] <ikonia> plerk you have to download it and manually install it as no ubuntu package exists
[12:45] <ikonia> k31th nah
[12:45] <plerk> thanks. is it in automatix, etc.?
[12:45] <ikonia> k31th I think you'll need to do a google search
[12:45] <ikonia> plerk no - thats why I said its "Manual"
[12:45] <mnoir> !automatix
[12:45] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:46] <k31th> !worksforme
[12:46] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[12:46] <Soccrmastr> blanky: now like a choice list came up for codeset for your language environwemnt: default was uni1 but nothing on the list is US or English
[12:46] <stev1> auTONYmous: - ah - my fault; did something dumb with network routing - ok now - thanks for help
[12:46] <compsman> has any one try a game call trash becuse i cant get it to get online it plays smoothly in single player
[12:46] <blanky> Soccrmastr: was unil at the very top?
[12:46] <blanky> unil? what's unil?
[12:46] <auTONYmous> stev1: ok
[12:46] <Soccrmastr> blanky: no uni1 is in the middle sort of
[12:47] <Tenris> Someone would known what's the prob of this "PCI : Error while updating region" ?
[12:47] <aN1> plerk may i suggest easyubuntu
[12:47] <blanky> Soccrmastr: then use that, I guess. Sorry, not sure
[12:47] <foob> whats the command to copy an entire directory (and it all its subdirs) to another place
[12:47] <mnoir> foob
[12:47] <plerk> does installing ubuntu and then kubuntu-desktop give you the same functionality as installing kubuntu? vice-versa?
[12:47] <foob> just cp source/ dest/ ?
[12:47] <Soccrmastr> blanky: if i choose this and its wrong settings then how can I fix it?
[12:47] <ikonia> foob cp -R
[12:47] <mnoir> foob: cp  -rp src dest
[12:47] <ikonia> man this is basic
[12:47] <blanky> Soccrmastr: I'm sorry, I don't know :'(
[12:47] <blanky> Soccrmastr: what package is it installing?
[12:47] <foob> this is #ubuntu ;0
[12:47] <ikonia> thas one of the most lazy questions I've seen
[12:47] <mnoir> ikonia: sorry....
[12:47] <belkin> i need to know how will i place Configuration Editor on my ubuntu menu please
[12:48] <foob> and i still got 2 diff answers ;0
[12:48] <ikonia> mnoir no - sorry didn't mean that
[12:48] <blanky> Soccrmastr: I would figure, you can simply do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure <package name>"
[12:48] <ikonia> foob no you didn't
[12:48] <juano> anyone, im having this error seems like a DNS issue http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/883/
[12:48] <ikonia> they where bost the same
[12:48] <ikonia> both
[12:48] <foob> ok thanks
[12:48] <juano> its when i search for my windows PC in smb
[12:48] <ikonia> foob for future reference "man" is a big help
[12:48] <aN1> -r for recursive p for perserve permission
[12:48] <ikonia> foob eg: man cp
[12:48] <Soccrmastr> blanky: well I am updating xubuntu 6.06 to 6.10, and the title of that list and area was ubuntu configuartion so im not sure what package exactly
[12:48] <juano> sorry for my ubuntu PC
[12:48] <blanky> Soccrmastr: sorry :(
[12:48] <Soccrmastr> blanky: maybe libc6 ?
[12:49] <Soccrmastr> blanky: ok thanks
[12:49] <plerk> does installing ubuntu and then kubuntu-desktop give you the same functionality as installing kubuntu? vice-versa?
[12:49] <blanky> Soccrmastr: why not ask? or check in the wiki
[12:49] <ikonia> plerk its just kde
[12:49] <blanky> Soccrmastr: check at wiki.ubuntu.com , search for something like 'upgrade 6.06 to 6.10'
[12:49] <mnoir> plerk: plus you will also have gnome
[12:49] <aN1> ikonia is there a way to set man open with nano instead of vi?
[12:49] <DeathFox> when in configirng xserver-xor how do put a check bside the video mode u want
[12:49] <DeathFox> typo
[12:49] <ikonia> aN1 man is an application - it doesn't open in vi
[12:49] <ikonia> man IS the application
[12:49] <kanzie> Im trying to install edgy eft but gParted is not letting me proceed with my manually configured partition table, it says "No root file system".
[12:50] <boss_> hello
[12:50] <ikonia> kanzie have you configured a root file system
[12:50] <mnoir> aN1: man man for more info
[12:50] <ikonia> mnoir genius !
[12:50] <aN1> ikonia lol i always thought it calls on vi cuz they quit the same way lol stupid of me
[12:50] <ikonia> good response
[12:50] <kanzie> ikonia, yes, "/" 180gb - Partition 7 disc SATA 1 (Logical) [sda7] 
[12:50] <ikonia> aN1 you can just press "q" to quit - thats not vi
[12:50] <boss_> can i get some help? I have not a loopback entry in my route table...
[12:51] <kanzie> ikonia,  Im trying to overwrite and install on an already existing Dapper Dan
[12:51] <ikonia> boss_ put on e in
[12:51] <mnoir> aN1: you can set the pager for man to be another
[12:51] <boss_> what?
[12:51] <ikonia> kanzie make sure the "format" tick box is checked
[12:51] <kanzie> it is checked (I had to check it manually)
[12:51] <ikonia> boss_ put a loopback entry in
[12:51] <ikonia> kanzie very strange
[12:51] <boss_> it's not possible...
[12:51] <ikonia> boss_ putting an entry in /etc/hosts is not possible ?
[12:51] <aN1> mnoir explain a little more?
[12:51] <kanzie> ikonia, very... The problem could be that I have an existing windows xp installation
[12:52] <boss_> umm
[12:52] <kanzie> ikonia, but it had no problem installing dapper
[12:52] <kanzie> for me
[12:52] <ikonia> kanzie I don't think thats related
[12:52] <ikonia> kanzie delete the partition and re-crete it
[12:52] <ikonia> create
[12:52] <kanzie> ikonia, ok
[12:52] <mnoir> aN1: at the terminal prompt, man will printout the manual page for a command.     sometimes it is useless but most of the time it is worth reading
[12:52] <boss_> ikonia
[12:52] <ikonia> boss_ yes
[12:52] <aN1> mnoir no i mean the pager part
[12:52] <boss_> can i contact you in pvt?
[12:52] <mnoir> ampsonic: man uses a pager to present screenloads
[12:53] <ikonia> boss_ no
[12:53] <kanzie> ikonia, how big sohuld I make the swap-file if I want to be able to resume the computer
[12:53] <boss_> ok
[12:53] <kanzie> ?
[12:53] <mnoir> more, less, most  are pagers
[12:53] <kanzie> ikonia, the size of the RAM or?
[12:53] <mnoir> most is the best
[12:53] <ikonia> kanzie 1+half
[12:53] <aN1> mnoir oh lol thx
[12:53] <ikonia> kanzie so you have enough for a full dump plus some
[12:53] <peacekpr> I have an xorg question for someone.  I have a samsung wide screen lcd monitor that I'd like to plug into the monitor port on my laptop.  But there will obviously be instances when I don't want to use it (i.e. traveling).  Is there some way I can put the drivers for the external wide screen monitor in the xorg.conf so that it is autodetected when it is plugged in?
[12:53] <mnoir> less is more (more or less)
[12:53] <mnoir> more is junk as far as I think
[12:53] <ikonia> peacekpr xorg 7.1.1 has auto detect built in - but it rarley works properly
[12:54] <aN1> haha lol
[12:54] <mnoir> you can pipe a manpage to nano but why bother?
[12:54] <kanzie> ikonia, so three sohuld do it with a physical RAM of 2.5 gb?
[12:54] <ikonia> kanzie perfect
[12:54] <ikonia> the rule is normally just your ram
[12:54] <ikonia> but I've found it better to have a little more
[12:54] <ikonia> from personal experience
[12:54] <juano> im having a DNS problem with my ubuntu, i can go in Windows XP PC through Samba except from windows i have to put ip number to enter here, it wont work with host name anyone know about this?
[12:54] <kanzie> ikonia, ext3 or RaiserFS (for normal workstation-use) does it matter? is ext3 better supported?
[12:55] <ikonia> kanzie for support ext3
[12:55] <ikonia> juano dns resolution of thoe host
[12:55] <mnoir> aN1: and, finally, man man really does work
[12:55] <juano> ikonia: how do i set this up?
[12:55] <aN1> mnoir i have to wait till i get my setup up
[12:55] <variant> mnoir: so does man woman
[12:55] <aN1> mnoir yesterday i messed up my entire cop
[12:55] <variant> mnoir: try it
[12:56] <aN1> ycomp
[12:56] <ikonia> juano you either need access to 2 dns server or an entry in the host file on the client
[12:56] <mnoir> variant: No manual entry for woman
[12:56] <variant> mnoir: exactly
[12:56] <kanzie> ikonia, now everything worked fine, so it is a kind of a small bug of it not flagging a root file system if it isnt created in previous step
[12:56] <PriceChild> what is the default port that cvs runs on?
[12:56] <peacekpr> ikonia, i wonder if i'm using xorg 7.1.1... at least to try to test it out
[12:56] <variant> mnoir: mwaahahaha
[12:56] <aN1> viarant haha dats a good joke
[12:56] <kanzie> ikonia, even though the user manually specifies a "/"
[12:56] <ikonia> peacekpr what version of ubunu are you using
[12:56] <mnoir> variant: how many days you been waiting to pull that?
[12:56] <ikonia> kanzie looks like a little bug
[12:57] <variant> mnoir: years*
[12:57] <peacekpr> i don't mind manually editing xorg.conf, but i do want xorg to know to use those certain drivers if it detects an external monitor
[12:57] <njero> hi all, I am trying to set JAVA_HOME and fear I may be doing something wrong... I am following a tutorial but think I have the wrong path
[12:57] <peacekpr> ikonia, edgy
[12:57] <mnoir> whatevar
[12:57] <ikonia> kanzie log it if you wan to be helpful
[12:57] <Borzen> Hay the Live CD wont run on my pc
[12:57] <kanzie> ikonia, and it will not have a problem rewriting my grub now?
[12:57] <ikonia> peacekpr yup your using 7.1.1
[12:57] <BULLE> lupine_85: thanks, i have the connection up and running now
[12:57] <aN1> Borzen did u md5sum check it?
[12:57] <aN1> cd burned ok?
[12:57] <kanzie> ikonia, sure, can you tell me where the logfiles for the gpart in installaion is located?
[12:57] <peacekpr> ikonia, do you know of a tutorial that can tell me about xorg autodetection?
[12:57] <ikonia> kanzie no idea off the top of my head
[12:57] <Borzen> Yah I have the free CD
[12:58] <ikonia> peacekpr no - as its very new and only working a little bit on some drivers
[12:58] <deathfox> how do i access other drives or partions on this pc like my windows one on the same pc
[12:58] <Borzen> It locks up at the Windowd
[12:58] <Borzen> Window
[12:58] <ikonia> deathfox just mount them
[12:58] <kanzie> ikonia, now it is installing... mmmmm.... thanks!
[12:58] <aN1> Borzen itz probabaly some graphic card problem
[12:58] <mnoir> !ntfs | deathfox
[12:58] <ubotu> deathfox: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:58] <aN1> borzen try the alternative
[12:58] <peacekpr> ikonia, and probably not working on the xorg-drivers-fglrx drivers, huh? :-P
[12:58] <njero> !java | njero
[12:58] <ubotu> njero: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[12:58] <ikonia> mnoir great ubot
[12:58] <ikonia> peacekpr doubtful
[12:58] <aN1> Borzen if u can't u need to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:58] <Borzen> No it runs on all of the other computers in my house, all of which have a Nvidia Video card
[12:58] <peacekpr> ikonia, the story of my life
[12:58] <mnoir> ikonia: the bot is very deep
[12:59] <Borzen> I do have a AMD X2
[12:59] <aN1> Borzen for me it freeze b/c i have to manually set the video ram size
[12:59] <Borzen> O i can try that How do i do that?
[12:59] <aN1> borzen press ctrl alt F1
[01:00] <variant> Borzen: boot it in safe graphics mode
[01:00] <ikonia> mnoir it could be - there are only 4 questions ever asked 1.) how to I get wirless working 2.) how can I use nvidia/ati 3.) how do I install flash 4.) how do I upgrade to edgy
[01:00] <Borzen> Thanks i try that after i eat
[01:00] <mnoir> iko5. how do i type cd?
[01:00] <ikonia> mnoir touche'
[01:00] <mnoir> ikonia: um what is the number for 911 again?
[01:00] <ikonia> genius
[01:01] <deathfox> that diskmounter url doesent work
[01:01] <mnoir> ik - Homer said it first
[01:01] <ikonia> deathfox yeah it does, I'm on it now
[01:01] <njero> !JAVA_HOME | njero
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about JAVA_HOME - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <deathfox> i did the wget it said
[01:01] <peacekpr> ikonia, i was kinda hoping i could just add another screen section for the external monitor in front of the screen section for the laptop lcd :-)
[01:01] <ikonia> njero what do you want to know
[01:01] <deathfox> and it said error
[01:02] <ikonia> deathfox thats descritptive
[01:02] <ikonia> peacekpr you can do that, but it will cause problems when that monitor is not there
[01:02] <deathfox> he script must be downloaded before it can be used. Type the following lines. LINK IS DEAD, IF ANYONE KNOWS A NEW PATH, PLEASE INSERT.
[01:02] <njero> Well, I installed Sun SDK/JRE and want to set the JAVA_HOME env variable. I edited /etc/evironment and added it there.. but I am not sure I chose the right path
[01:02] <peacekpr> figures ;-/
[01:02] <juano_> ikonia: ok worked, except i have one little issue, seems that theyre not in the same workgroup
[01:02] <ikonia> njero java home is the root of where java is installed
[01:03] <njero> like: JAVA_HOME="/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.06/"
[01:03] <njero> ?
[01:03] <ikonia> juano_ thats problem two
[01:03] <ikonia> njero thats the lib path
[01:03] <juano_> ikonia: no machine is able to see the workgroup
[01:03] <wadoodem> hi
[01:03] <GreySim> Hey, I was wondering if anyone knew how to set up a swap file using the Edgy Desktop CD with persistence. I'm fine with having to perform manual steps every time I boot up if need be...
[01:03] <ikonia> GreySim what do you mean persistance
[01:04] <wadoodem> i need some help?
[01:04] <IntuitiveNipple> GreySim - yes, I did that recently
[01:04] <variant> GreySim: mkswap /dev/whatever && swapon /dev/whatever && nano -w /etc/fstab (put in line for swap here)
[01:04] <njero> ikonia: do I add "bin/" to that? or "jre/bin/"?
[01:05] <ikonia> njero find where java is and do one directory before that
[01:05] <siloe> Indo cribbio sono???
[01:05] <IntuitiveNipple> GreySim: As variant says. I but a bash script to automate things on a Flash memory card and ran that each time I booted the Live CD
[01:05] <ikonia> most scripts will do $JAVA_HOME/bin/java
[01:05] <GreySim> Thank you.
[01:05] <wadoodem> how can i regnize all the hd i have?
[01:05] <ikonia> wadoodem what do you mean
[01:06] <wadoodem> i can see my others HD and i have like 3 more  why?
[01:06] <ikonia> wadoodem they are partitions most probably
[01:06] <Beforewisdom> Hi.  I've been going through the instruction on how to install mythtv on the Ubuntu help site.  I have been trying to restart mysql, both as myself and as root, but I get this error message:
[01:06] <Beforewisdom> steve@00400582fa8a:~$ mysql
[01:06] <Beforewisdom> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[01:06] <Beforewisdom> steve@00400582fa8a:~$
[01:06] <Stormx2> Does anyone know the command that would tar up a directory and output the file to stdout?
[01:06] <ikonia> Beforewisdom mysql isn't running
[01:06] <Beforewisdom> lol
[01:06] <Beforewisdom> Okay, how to do I start it? :)
[01:07] <Stormx2> !lamp
[01:07] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:07] <Stormx2> It says on that page.
[01:07] <ikonia> Stormx2 tar cvf $file $directory will put to screen
[01:07] <uncle_bill> Hello :)
[01:07] <Beforewisdom> Stormx2, was that for me?
[01:07] <wadoodem> yes but if i have a liibraary of files on the other how can see them?
[01:07] <Stormx2> ikonia: $file $directory. Explain why I need two
[01:07] <Stormx2> Beforewisdom: Yeah
[01:07] <njero> ikonia: okay, then I thiknk that is it... I set my JAVA_HOME="/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.06/" and then I can do $JAVA_HOME/bin/java from the command line. Am I good to go or horribly confused?
[01:07] <deathfox> how do i access a windows partition from linux, i tried that one link and its not valid the wget part etc
[01:07] <GreySim> Ack, so Googling up a bit more information on how to do it with a file instead of a device, I tried doing it with a file, and I get a bunch of kernel errors. :(
[01:07] <ikonia> Stormx2 one is the file to write to - one if the directory to tar up
[01:08] <Stormx2> !windows
[01:08] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[01:08] <Stormx2> hmm
[01:08] <njero> heh
[01:08] <Stormx2> !ntfs
[01:08] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:08] <Stormx2> There we go
[01:08] <ikonia> njero looks ok
[01:08] <deathfox> it dont work
[01:08] <njero> okay... now to figure out my Rails problem.... thanks!
[01:08] <IntuitiveNipple> deathfox: Ubuntu usually has read-only NTFS drivers installed. All you need to do is mount the windows partitions
[01:08] <deathfox> the wget link is invalid
[01:08] <Stormx2> ikonia: I need it to write to stdout, not a file...
[01:08] <deathfox> whats the mount command?
[01:08] <deathfox> just mount /dev/sda1 ?
[01:08] <ikonia> make the file /dev/console
[01:09] <ikonia> deathfox I'm on the page now - its working fine
[01:09] <deathfox> can you read
[01:09] <ikonia> make sure you didn't put the "." at th eend
[01:09] <deathfox> i said the wget link
[01:09] <deathfox> on the tutorial
[01:09] <deathfox> does not work
[01:09] <Mikey> is there a command line msn / im software ? and is it available on apt-get?
[01:09] <Stormx2> deathfox: Explain the command you are trying, and what error you are receiving
[01:09] <variant> Mikey: yeah
[01:09] <ikonia> checking
[01:09] <variant> Mikey: apt-cache search msn
[01:09] <variant> Mikey: therea re a few
[01:09] <GreySim> Mikey: naim does at least AIM and IRC, IIRC. Maybe others.
[01:10] <deathfox> wget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[01:10] <deathfox>    <-- is an invalid url
[01:10] <ikonia> yup the link is dead
[01:10] <ikonia> there is a big message about it
[01:10] <Stormx2> deathfox: No, thats a valid URL
[01:10] <Mikey> cool, this variant
[01:10] <Mikey> thx*
[01:10] <deathfox> anyone know anthor way that wget url dont work
[01:10] <Stormx2> deathfox: its probably a 404 tho...
[01:10] <mnoir> Stormx2: tar - filestotar goes to stdout
[01:10] <ikonia> deathfox no idea
[01:10] <Stormx2> deathfox: So looks like its unavailable. Just scroll down
[01:11] <deathfox> ya i dont understand the stuff below i read it 3 times
[01:11] <deathfox> im new
[01:11] <mnoir> Stormx2: sorry -> tar -cvf - filestotar
[01:11] <ikonia> keep reading
[01:11] <ikonia> it will sync in
[01:11] <ikonia> or do you have a specific question
[01:11] <Mikey> ok, is there an online search of the apt-get repositories, since my ubuntu is still installing
[01:11] <deathfox> i just wanna pull files from my windows parition
[01:11] <deathfox> is all
[01:11] <deathfox> nothen fancy
[01:11] <variant> Mikey: open a terminal on the live cd and do it
[01:11] <ikonia> deathfox so you don't need samba
[01:11] <variant> Mikey: the live cd comes with apt-get
[01:12] <ikonia> just mount them using read only ntfs
[01:12] <Mikey> cant load live cd, frezzes :(
[01:12] <deathfox> no the windows parition is on this pc
[01:12] <deathfox> -_-
[01:12] <ikonia> Mikey so there is no way of doing it then
[01:12] <variant> deathfox: so do mount /dev/hdwhatever /mnt/
[01:12] <variant> deathfox: then do ls /mnt and there you go
[01:12] <ikonia> deathfox yes, just mount it then - you don't need samba
[01:12] <Mikey> ok no worries, thx ikonia and variant
[01:13] <ikonia> feeding time
[01:13] <deathfox> ya it isent letting me mount iv tried hmmz
[01:13] <deathfox> let me try agian
[01:14] <deathfox> /dev/sda1               1       10469    84092211    7  HPFS/NTFS
[01:14] <deathfox> is what i need to mount i tried the mount /dev/sda1/
[01:14] <deathfox> it dident work
[01:15] <mnoir> deathfox: type your mount command here
[01:15] <variant> deathfox: you need to add a place to mount it to the command
[01:16] <variant> deathfox: mount /dev/whatever wont work
[01:16] <deathfox> oh
[01:16] <deathfox> x_x
[01:16] <variant> deathfox: you need somthing like mount /dev/whatever /mnt/
[01:16] <deathfox> so /deathfox/home/
[01:16] <deathfox> would work
[01:16] <variant> deathfox: if you put a line in fstab about the partition then you can do mount /dev/whatever on its own (or mount /mnt/mountpoint)
[01:17] <mnoir> deathfox: i suggest you add a directory to /mnt called cdrive or something like that
[01:17] <variant> deathfox: you mean /home/deathfox? thats a bad idea, it will mount it over your home directory
[01:17] <deathfox> lol im confused  :p
[01:17] <Przemcio78> is it an international uibuntu channel or are some nationalities not welcome here?
[01:17] <deathfox> i just wanna sort somethen to drag files to this partition
[01:17] <variant> Przemcio78: all nationalities are welcome, speaking english
[01:18] <variant> Przemcio78: there are localised ubuntu channels
[01:18] <mnoir> Przemcio78: english only, so other channels are available for other languages
[01:18] <mnoir> bbfn
[01:18] <variant> ..
[01:18] <deathfox> variant,  so what should i mount to  or what
[01:19] <deathfox> i got confused
[01:19] <deathfox> lol
[01:19] <variant> deathfox: ifyou just want to mount it once do: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[01:19] <neuro_> Przemcio78: you are of course welcome here, but trolling like you just did in #ubuntu-uk is not appropriate behaviour
[01:19] <neuro_> Przemcio78: please bear this in mind
[01:19] <variant> deathfox: if you want to do something permanent do: mkdir /media/windows and add a line to /etc/fstab that references the new drive
[01:20] <noys__> Hi all
[01:20] <deathfox> ya i just started ubuntu today i dont know how to edit all that
[01:20] <Przemcio78> neuro_, why did you join arch channel?
[01:21] <neuro_> Przemcio78: to remind you not to troll
[01:21] <jewbile1> Can anyone suggest an alternative to Totem Movie Player?
[01:21] <neuro_> just as you came back into #ubuntu-uk and told us to go procreate
[01:21] <Przemcio78> neuro_, you're a troll
[01:21] <variant> deathfox: to edit a file you can use gedit (friendly gui). the fstab file requires root privilages so do "sudo gedit /etc/fstab" but be _exceptionaly careful_ not to mess up the file or your system will probably not boot
[01:21] <jewbile1> #ubuntu-va
[01:21] <jewbile1> woops
[01:21] <deathfox> i was just wanting to get some mp3s out of my other drive
[01:21] <jewbile1> lol
[01:22] <noys__> do anyone know what librarys needs for mp3, divix, xvid playback by xmms and mplayer (sorry for dummy quiestion, i'm too new to linux)
[01:22] <Beforewisdom> Hi.  I am trying to figure out how to start mysql on Unbuntu using this URL and this command :  "mysql -u root -p" but I am getting an error message that prompted me to come here to get the afforementioned url:
[01:22] <njero> ikonia: got my problems all fixed now thanks again!
[01:22] <variant> jewbile1: i use mplayer
[01:22] <Beforewisdom> root@00400582fa8a:~# mysql -u root -p
[01:22] <Beforewisdom> Enter password:
[01:22] <Beforewisdom> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[01:22] <Beforewisdom> root@00400582fa8a:~#
[01:22] <variant> deathfox: so, you have your options
[01:22] <jewbile1> variant: ok, thanks
[01:22] <deathfox> well i still dont understand how to get into the parition temp to just drag files out
[01:22] <deathfox> but thanks for your time
[01:22] <variant> jewbile1: videolan (vlc) is excellent also
[01:23] <variant> deathfox: do mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[01:23] <variant> deathfox: and open /mnt in your filemanager (nautilus)
[01:23] <variant> deathfox: then you can drag and drop
[01:23] <son_razumah> Hi all
[01:23] <son_razumah> do anyone know what librarys needs for mp3, divix, xvid playback by xmms and mplayer (sorry for dummy quiestion, i'm too new to linux)
[01:23] <LjL> Ubotu, tell son_razumah about mpe | son_razumah, see the private message from Ubotu
[01:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mpe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:23] <variant> !codecs | son_razumah
[01:23] <ubotu> son_razumah: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:23] <adaptr> !multimedia
[01:23] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[01:23] <LjL> nggggggg
[01:23] <neuro_> Beforewisdom: mysql is the command to administer MySQL; have you done sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[01:23] <deathfox> ty
[01:24] <Beforewisdom> neuro_, thanks that was what I was looking for when someone sent me off to the lamp page
[01:24] <neuro_> :)
[01:24] <son_razumah> !ntfs
[01:24] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:24] <deathfox> variant,  it wont let me open says permission denied
[01:25] <Beforewisdom> neuro_  "no such file or directory"
[01:25] <neuro_> Beforewisdom: have you installed the mysql-server package?
[01:25] <neuro_> sounds like you've only installed the client
[01:25] <Beforewisdom> nope, I just have what came with the ubuntu install
[01:25] <Beforewisdom> let me install that, thanks
[01:26] <aN1> deathfox did u umask=000
[01:26] <deathfox> you will confuse me
[01:26] <deathfox> im just trying to get in a mnt folder
[01:26] <deathfox> i just mounted /dev/sda1
[01:26] <deathfox> i wanna get it in to drag files out
[01:27] <deathfox> it said permission denied to go in
[01:27] <variant> deathfox: where did you mount it?
[01:27] <variant> aN1: he really doesnt need to do that
[01:27] <pianoboy3333> What is postscript/a postscript file -- is it a pdf?
[01:27] <variant> pianoboy3333: kinda
[01:27] <neuro_> a pdf is a product from a ps file
[01:27] <deathfox> i did sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[01:27] <neuro_> it's a printer language
[01:27] <deathfox> in my terminal
[01:27] <pianoboy3333> oh
[01:27] <variant> deathfox: so open nautilus and browse to /mnt
[01:27] <deathfox> i cant
[01:27] <variant> deathfox: why?
[01:27] <deathfox> it says permission denied
[01:27] <adaptr> neuro_: pdf has nothing to do with printing
[01:28] <Silver_Seagull> OK, woot- solved the xserver problem (how, I don't know- but I did).  I now type to you from the LiveCD, where further mysteries plague me- like an installer that sits at 0% and never accesses the CD after I click install.
[01:28] <variant> deathfox: type sudo nautilus
[01:28] <neuro_> adaptr: i didn't say it did
[01:28] <neuro_> adaptr: ah, context; pdf is a product of ps; ps is a printer language
[01:28] <Flannel> variant, deathfox, gksudo nautilus
[01:28] <deathfox> ok
[01:28] <deathfox> thank you
[01:28] <deathfox> i got it
[01:28] <neuro_> pianoboy3333: you should be able to open ps files directly in evince iirc
[01:28] <adaptr> neuro_: well, you're half-implying it with "is a product of ps", which is plain nonsense
[01:28] <variant> Flannel: he is already in the terminal so that makes little difference
[01:28] <deathfox> whats gksudo
[01:28] <deathfox> do?
[01:28] <Flannel> variant: no, it makes all the difference.
[01:28] <neuro_> adaptr: man ps2pdf :)
[01:28] <variant> deathfox: its just a graphical "sudo" command
[01:29] <adaptr> neuro_: man www.adobe.com ?
[01:29] <variant> Flannel: whatever
[01:29] <neuro_> adaptr: the smiley meant it was a joke; i was massively oversimplifying for brevity's sake
[01:29] <Flannel> variant: gksudo and sudo set up the environments for the programs differently.  gksudo is used for graphical programs.  It's NOT a "whatever"
[01:29] <adaptr> neuro_: you're saying that every pdf file is a product of a ps source
[01:29] <adaptr> well then please don;t brevify :)
[01:29] <pianoboy3333> deathfox: it does super special crap
[01:30] <neuro_> adaptr: ok then, pdf is *one possible product* of a ps file :)
[01:30] <deathfox> variant,  now i got a problem i cant drag and drop its not working :p
[01:30] <adaptr> and ps is one possible source
[01:30] <variant> Flannel: it acheives the same result and was perfectly acceptable for what we were doing so jump of your high horse
[01:30] <variant> deathfox: what happens
[01:30] <Mikey> shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh just shhhhhhh
[01:30] <deathfox> nothen
[01:30] <deathfox> if i drag it to the other folder
[01:30] <deathfox> nothen happens
[01:30] <neuro_> adaptr: yes, ps is one possible source, i didn't mean to imply otherwise
[01:30] <variant> deathfox: your sure about htat?
[01:30] <Flannel> variant: no, they don't achieve the same result.  It can be detrimental running graphical programs with sudo.
[01:30] <deathfox> yes sir
[01:30] <variant> deathfox: did you look in the other folder?
[01:30] <deathfox> :p
[01:30] <deathfox> yes
[01:31] <LjL> adaptr, neuro_: the PDF language was certainly *derived* from the PostScript language, which was intended as a language that printers would understand natively.
[01:31] <variant> Flannel: please explain exactly what you mean
[01:31] <adaptr> neuro_: glad we've got that worked out :) now let's go back to doing useful stuff
[01:31] <neuro_> adaptr: hurrah :)
[01:31] <pianoboy3333> deathfox: you use it for launching graphical programs as root, but make sure that if you give arguments to the program, that you include quotes, for example, `gksudo update-manager` will do fine, but if you want to upgrade to fiesty/edgy, you'll have to do `gksudo "update-manager -c -d"`
[01:31] <neuro_> LjL: i know, cheers :)
[01:31] <adaptr> LjL: PS, yes - not PDF, as it never succeeded
[01:31] <son_razumah> i 've mounted ntfs partitions but i can access they only from root. How to add permissions to normal user?
[01:31] <Flannel> variant: the environmnt that the programs run in is setup differently between sudo and gksudo, the home directory in particular.
[01:31] <jrib> !ntfs | son_razumah
[01:31] <ubotu> son_razumah: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:31] <NixNewb> I want to control my computer with vnc but the vnc client that came with ubuntu won't start up until after I log in
[01:31] <deathfox> variant,  ya i tried to open my home folder and drag a file into it and it wont move
[01:31] <jinx099> Flannel: Why is it bad to run graphical apps with sudo?
[01:31] <jrib> son_razumah: see the notes about using umask on that wiki page
[01:32] <son_razumah> !ntfs-3g
[01:32] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[01:32] <adaptr> NixNewb: use a remote X desktop then
[01:32] <variant> deathfox: right click/copy and paste it
[01:32] <deathfox> dont work
[01:32] <deathfox> i just tried
[01:32] <Graxe> Hi, I got an error when I tried to boot a flash drive with ubuntu on it in persistent mode. Could someone see if they know what it means? It said >>> [17179702.29200]  Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 357586 <<<
[01:32] <Flannel> jinx099: because config files get saved incorrectly
[01:32] <variant> deathfox: sorry, i dont know what your doing wrong
[01:32] <jrib> Seveas: comments should differ more from url imo
[01:32] <jinx099> Flannel: So gksu fixes this?
[01:32] <jrib> wrong window
[01:33] <variant> !gksudo
[01:33] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using "sudo <GUI-application>"
[01:33] <Flannel> jinx099: right, gksu or gksudo fix it.
[01:33] <LjL> adaptr: no, but if by "a product of PS" as in "a language/format derived/inspired from PS", then it's true (with Wikipedia saying:  "PDF is primarily the combination of three (with the possibility of a fourth) technologies:  1) a sub-set of the PostScript page description programming language, for generating the layout and graphics,"
[01:33] <Flannel> jinx099: sudo works fine for non graphical programs, gksudo works fine for graphical programs
[01:33] <jinx099> Flannel: Thanks for the clarification
[01:33] <variant> I would like to se an example of the way in which it sets up the environment
[01:33] <deathfox> how can i do anything wrong i got the root nat up and then a normal nat up trying to drag a file from the root 1 to normal 1
[01:34] <variant> deathfox: yeah, that should work
[01:34] <deathfox> ok variant  it copys if i try to move it to my root
[01:34] <deathfox> but not the other
[01:34] <deathfox> ya but i want files in my user account
[01:34] <adaptr> LjL: that's semantic wibble - from any context, that was obviously not the topic of the discussion - they were talking about a PDF *document* being the product of a PS source document
[01:34] <deathfox> not root
[01:34] <variant> deathfox: use the terminal, cp /mnt/path/to/files* /path/to/where/you/wanttoput/them
[01:34] <neuro_> adaptr: cheers, saves me from thinking how to type what you just typed :)
[01:35] <LjL> adaptr: you're probably correct, i wasn't following from the beginning, but just from the "product of PS" part
[01:35] <Silver_Seagull> Anyone know why the HDD installer would run fine until it was time to perform, then sit at 0%, not access CD, then quit w/o error?
[01:35] <adaptr> LjL: and while obviously possible, there's nothing "must be" about it
[01:35] <adaptr> LjL: np
[01:35] <MasterShrek> Silver_Seagull are u using 6.06 or 6.10?
[01:35] <neuro_> LjL: i was massively oversimplifying the relationship between the two formats, soz :)
[01:35] <adaptr> Silver_Seagull: what's a HDD installer ?
[01:35] <deathfox> variant,  how do i get in my mnt folder from terminal it says permission denied agian
[01:36] <Silver_Seagull> adaptr: The installer for Ubuntu on the LiveCD
[01:36] <adaptr> Silver_Seagull: are you trying to install from a USB cdrom drive ?
[01:36] <adaptr> or TO a USB HD ?
[01:36] <variant> deathfox: eeeeeeeee
[01:36] <deathfox> x_0
[01:36] <variant> deathfox: do sudo chown -R deathfox:deathfox /mnt
[01:36] <Silver_Seagull> adaptr: No, from a LiveCD to a pre-partitioned SATA HDD.  It recognized and accepted the partitions and went into "Installing"
[01:36] <riotkittie> i wonder if i can eventually install to an external drive. man. lack of disk space will be the death of me
[01:37] <Flannel> variant: using sudo can sometimes cause you to no longer be able to login, because the owner has changed on some config files (ICEauthority or Xauthority).
[01:37] <deathfox> what does that do
[01:37] <ego1st> hi all
[01:37] <deathfox> variant,
[01:37] <NixNewb> i'm running ubutnu 6.03 whats the easiest way to upgrade it?
[01:37] <cstyve2> Hi everyone...I gotta problem and would really appreciate some help.....
[01:37] <variant> deathfox: changes the owner of the files to your user instead of root
[01:37] <Flannel> variant, deathfox, that's probably not wise.
[01:37] <Beforewisdom> anyone here familar with xdtv?
[01:37] <variant> deathfox: actualy, it changes /mnt too which is not actualy the best of ideas but i am gettin tired
[01:38] <riotkittie> cstyve2: what's yoru problem?
[01:38] <cstyve2> I'm somewhat of a newbie
[01:38] <Silver_Seagull> adaptr: However it sat at "0%" in the progress bar, never spun up the CD and then quit about 3 mins later w/o any error given
[01:38] <deathfox> bah im being terminal flooded :/
[01:38] <Thug-N-Me> how do i find out what type of fyle system does one partition have ?
[01:38] <variant> Flannel: yeah yeah i know. i'm gettin bored of this now though :)
[01:38] <cstyve2> well....I was playing around with the login options under administration and I think I have turned on a remote login feature
[01:38] <riotkittie> Thug-N-Me: is that partition mounted?
[01:38] <Flannel> variant: yeah, except you just destroyed whatever he had mounted.
[01:38] <variant> Flannel: huh?
[01:38] <adaptr> Silver_Seagull: pre-partitioning.. iiieew, bad call
[01:38] <cstyve2> When I start Ubuntu (Edgy Eft) I get a window that lists Ubuntu servers and asks me to connect
[01:38] <Flannel> variant: recursive chown?
[01:39] <cstyve2> I click on my machine listed and I get the Ubuntu login screen
[01:39] <Thug-N-Me> riotkittie yes
[01:39] <variant> Flannel: whats wrong with that exactly?
[01:39] <riotkittie> pre-partitioning is bad?
[01:39] <Graxe> *Uh* Hi, can I get some help again?
[01:39] <MasterShrek> whats up Graxe ?
[01:39] <cstyve2> After testing this out I clicked on shutdown and instead of shutting down I was returned to the "connect" window
[01:39] <Silver_Seagull> adaptr: What's the issue?  ext3, swap- installer formatted and I assigned appropriate mounts ( / & swap)
[01:39] <adaptr> NixNewb: gksudo update-manager -c, or sudo apt-get distupgrade
[01:39] <Flannel> variant: um, it's bad for the same reasons chowning your root recursively 777 is bad.
[01:39] <cstyve2> now my machine is not listed anymore
[01:39] <dogmeat> how can i get my eth0 interface online? apparently there's a driver needed for pcmcia type 1 cards that isnt loaded. the pcmcia card has a nic card.
[01:39] <jsewell> is there a way to have the gnome xchat client not show joins and parts?  I checked prefs, nothing found...
[01:40] <Flannel> er, chmodding, even.
[01:40] <adaptr> Silver_Seagull: well, nothing pertinent, it;s just - how did you partition them ?
[01:40] <variant> Flannel: not really, 777 is read write execute for anyone and everyone so its not the same at all
[01:40] <Silver_Seagull> adaptr: I want to dual boot with my Windows XPP install- I used Partition Magic 8.
[01:40] <riotkittie> Thug-N-Me: try "sudo fdisk -l" in a term
[01:40] <kanzie> Im trying to share a directory with files using samba but when I then try to connect to the share I can see it (browsing) but get "The folder contents could not be displayed" "sharename could not be found, maybe it has been deleted"
[01:40] <Graxe> MasterShrek: I got an error trying to start ubuntu off a usb drive and I wasn't sure what it meant, I followed Flannel's advice earlier and made sure I had all the files that the cd needed but it still isn't working for some reason, I can boot in live cd mode but not persistent mode.
[01:41] <Flannel> variant: it's essentially the same, you've destroyed whatever permissions where there (and probably there for a reason), and they're impossible to put back without manually doing everything.
[01:41] <adaptr> Silver_Seagull: well, then - I rest my case :) PM is possibly one of the most dangerous pieces of sh*te ever to come out of norton's *ss
[01:41] <Thug-N-Me> riotkittie that will not show me the type of the file system ;))
[01:41] <variant> Flannel: it is a windows partition
[01:41] <adaptr> Silver_Seagull: save yourself the trouble and let Ubuntu do the dirty for you - it uses gparted, which fails in like.. never
[01:41] <MasterShrek> Graxe sorry dont know anything about booting off a usb drive, did u install to your usb drive?
[01:41] <Silver_Seagull> adaptr: I fail to understand why this would cause the installer to hang after formatting the partitions
[01:41] <riotkittie> Thug-N-Me: it shows me what my file systems are. perhaps i just have a super duper special version of fdisk
[01:41] <adaptr> Thug-N-Me: just type mount
[01:41] <Flannel> variant: doesn't matter.  the fix he needed was options with the mount command, not chowning after the fact.
[01:42] <magic_ninja> Thug-N-Me: did you get your music recovered?
[01:42] <kanzie> anyone know Samba here?
[01:42] <variant> Flannel: whatever man, get a grip
[01:42] <jughead> jsewell, I have a setting under "advanced" called text events
[01:42] <riotkittie> did you even try it?
[01:42] <variant> Flannel: you sound like a wikipedian
[01:42] <dnite> anyone know of a way to remap the sleep button to something else on my keyboard?? every time i accidentally press it, the computer goes to sleep and doesn't wake up. i don't need this button.
[01:42] <aN1> How do i show a mounted drive automatically on Desktop?
[01:42] <adaptr> Silver_Seagull: as do I.. but that's not really important, is it ? I have seen so many installations totally wrecked by PM that it's not even funny anymore, to whomever it happens
[01:42] <Thug-N-Me> magic_ninja didnt tryed anymore ... some guys told me that i can forget about it formating a ext3 partition its bad :)
[01:42] <Flannel> variant: just stop giving bad advice, and no one here will have issue with what you're recommending
[01:42] <MasterShrek> it should go there by default aN1
[01:42] <Mikey> dnite: i raged it out with a screwdriver :)
[01:42] <Graxe> MasterShrek: Yes I installed following the tutorial in the wiki, I'm very much a noob to ubuntu and linux in general so I was trying to get this to work so that I could learn how to use ubuntu better.
[01:43] <dnite> aN1, system -> prefereces -> removable drives and media
[01:43] <riotkittie> ehhh
[01:43] <riotkittie> is it on  the disk in use?
[01:43] <riotkittie> that partition?
[01:43] <MasterShrek> well graxe, i would suggest installing it to your hard drive and learning it that way, booting off a usb drive can be very hit and miss
[01:43] <jsewell> jughead: Thanks.  I have  XChat-GNOME 0.13 and there is no advanced section under prefs
[01:43] <Silver_Seagull> adaptr: Interesting because Gentoo, RH FC4, and a brief Knoppix stint all accepted the same partitioning fine :/
[01:43] <dnite> Mikey, sadly, i have thought about this.. but would perfer to leave the button unharmed in a physical sense for astetic reasons.. hehe
[01:43] <magic_ninja> Thug-N-Me: it can be a problem but it is entirely possible, its reformats of the same filesystem and are easily recovered, otherwise you gotta jerk the bianary off the hdd phsyically
[01:43] <magic_ninja> Thug-N-Me: but it is possible to do with certain (expensive) software
[01:43] <wiseelben> is there a way to save your gnome panel settings? I want to try to do a huge revamp, but I don't feel like redoing my old settings if I my new idea fails.
[01:43] <mag_> how can I change the passwd of a samba user ?
[01:44] <adaptr> Silver_Seagull: I was with you with the Knoppix bit.. I've run screaming from the others...
[01:44] <aN1> dnite well im there now wut i do?
[01:44] <riotkittie> oops brb. baby having a meltdown. wee.
[01:44] <Thug-N-Me> magic_ninja they told me that you can but very very hard because of ext3 type
[01:44] <jughead> ohh you use xchat-gnome... I don't know where it is.  mine is in the settings menu right under "preferences"
[01:44] <dnite> mag_ i use webmin.. works great for setting up a lot of different servers and other things like that..
[01:44] <aN1> MasterShrek oh itz not there automatically
[01:44] <adaptr> Silver_Seagull: anyhoo, you can try installing from the alternate liveCD, see if that improves matters -= but I would still let Ubuntu create the partition(s)
[01:44] <Graxe> MasterShrek: Yeah, I considered that but I don't want to mess with this hard drive too much as this is a computer for school and I need to be careful with it. i have a bad history of overwriting partitions when using linux distributions...its happened at least twice.
[01:45] <Silver_Seagull> adaptr: The other thing is I need to keep my Windows install working- I have too many small things to spend the time backing up configs for, then reinstalling and reconfiguring.  Will gparted keep my Windows happy?
[01:45] <variant> Flannel: can't argue with that actualy
[01:45] <Thug-N-Me> magic_ninja now i got use to it :) "no more running commands before reading the how to until the end "
[01:45] <adaptr> Silver_Seagull: it won;t even touch it
[01:45] <MasterShrek> Graxe maybe try using a distro that has a usb installer, like slax or dsl
[01:45] <mag_> dnite: but webmin is not for web servers ?
[01:45] <dnite> an1 if u have 'mount removable drives when hot-plugged' checked, they should automatically apear on your desktop.. if not.. search around the gnome configuration editor.. there's a setting there for it.
[01:46] <jsewell> jusghead: yeah, looks like this client doesn't have the option.  maybe I'll try normal xchat.  What exact client are you on?
[01:46] <stahnma_> nick stahnma
[01:46] <aN1> dnite yeah i donno why itz a monted vfat parition
[01:46] <Silver_Seagull> adaptr: So it will resize a 160GB SATA NTFS drive to, say, 80GB NTFS, 76GB ext3 and 4GB swap without damaging Windows on its next boot?
[01:46] <aN1> dnite itz just not showing up
[01:46] <aN1> lol
[01:46] <Silver_Seagull> adaptr: As you can tell- I've lost too much in the past to not be 1000% sure
[01:46] <Turgon> dnite : maybe you could go to System_preferences_keybinds and associate the "sleep" button with some harmless command, like "change to workspace 1" (at least for me that works)
[01:46] <jman_> Hi all I am trying to install an hp photosmart c3180 all in one printer but whenever I plug it in, the OS doesn't find it and i see nothing is dmesg, any ideas? :-/
[01:46] <jughead> jsewell, I use regular xchat
[01:47] <dnite> mag_, no, webmin is kinda like an all in one adminisration tool for linux.. it detects and allows u to set up various servers and other things on your system.. like apache, samba, etc. works really nice. go a google search for webmin
[01:47] <dnite> Turgon, that would work great. i generally press it when i try and hit esc. is there a way to bind the button to just esc? if not that's fine too
[01:47] <arrenlex> jman_: Install the hpijs package.
[01:47] <arrenlex> !info hpijs
[01:47] <ubotu> hpijs: HP Linux Printing and Imaging - gs IJS driver (hpijs). In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.9+1.6.9-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 337 kB, installed size 712 kB
[01:48] <Graxe> MAsterShrek: Dsl and slax, are they as usable as ubuntu? I really wanted to try a distribution with gnome and I was hoping to use the flash drive for diagnostic type stuff on other computers.
[01:48] <Thug-N-Me> hehe i didnt know that firefox supports now irc applications :)
[01:48] <jsewell> jughead: thx
[01:48] <adaptr> Silver_Seagull: gparted will resize ntfs fine.. just don;t ask it to move the aprtition :)
[01:48] <variant> !webmin
[01:49] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[01:49] <MasterShrek> well Graxe slax uses kde, and i think dsl uses fluxbox
[01:49] <variant> lol
[01:49] <jman_> arrenlex: already have it instaklled
[01:49] <kanzie> Ill just keep on with this annoying question, hopefully someone joins that might help me... =( Does anyone know why sharing with SAMBA wont work (edgy eft)
[01:49] <arrenlex> jman_: And what about cupsys and cupsys-bsd?
[01:49] <dnite> Turgon, actually.. i'm in keyboard preferences now but i'm not finding a place to bind keys..
[01:49] <arrenlex> !doesn't work | kanzie
[01:49] <ubotu> kanzie: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[01:49] <Silver_Seagull> adaptr: <warning: incoming meme> O RLY?  http://gparted.sourceforge.net/features.php  Says it'll move/resize NTFS :)
[01:49] <riotkittie> slax is a great live distro
[01:49] <dnite> variant, i use webmin now and it works great. regardless of deb/ubuntu support x=)
[01:50] <adaptr> Silver_Seagull: and you trust your data to it, hmm ? :)
[01:50] <Turgon> dnite Launch the program with "gnome-keybinding-properties"
[01:50] <h3xis> webmin is teh secks
[01:50] <riotkittie> Graxe: slax no longer includes gnome; theyve gone with KDE
[01:50] <jman_> arrenlex: yep both also installed
[01:50] <variant> adaptr: if you have the correct file system tools installed gparted will move/resize everything (i think it doesnt support shrinking xfs)
[01:50] <foob> whats safer: writing to ntfs or resizing ntfs?
[01:50] <dnite> Turgon, ah.. thanks a lot..
[01:50] <noiesmo> kanzie, check /etc/smb.conf if you do not want to have username and password on smb shares then set security = share
[01:50] <Graxe> MasterShrek: Yeah I looked at DSL one time and I wasn't sure if it would work for the things I wanted to use it for becuase it was so small in size (I think it was 50mb) What version of slax should I try? I remember they had like 3 versions or something.
[01:51] <variant> adaptr: you might need to compile the latest version as it's not available via apt (I have done it on the live cd and it works exceptionaly well)
[01:51] <MasterShrek> what do u want to do specifically Graxe ?
[01:51] <Turgon> dnite You are welcome :) (I don't know how to bind "sleep" to ESC though)
[01:51] <riotkittie> foob: i've never had a problem writing to NTFS, and have been doing in sine 2004. YMMV .
[01:51] <kanzie> noiesmo, thanks, checking that now
[01:51] <cstyve2> Can someone help me with a login problem with Edgy Eft?
[01:51] <Silver_Seagull> adaptr: Well, if you just jot down your name and address here..... I'll be sure to send you a thank you present when by data  goes to byte-haven in a botched gparted mishap ;)
[01:51] <arrenlex> jman_: I don't know... should work. You could try the hplip package, but I don't see how it would help.
[01:51] <dnite> Turgon, that's ok. just so long as it doesn't put my computer to sleep any more i'm more than happy.
[01:51] <foob> riotkittie:  im already having a problem writing to ntfs and it's my first time trying. i get 'permission denied' when i try to using fuse
[01:51] <riotkittie> it since.
[01:51] <arrenlex> !ntfs-3f | foob
[01:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-3f - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:51] <arrenlex> !ntfs-3g | foob
[01:51] <ubotu> foob: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[01:52] <noiesmo> kanzie, np, don't forget to restart samba after any changes to smb.conf
[01:52] <Silver_Seagull> adaptr: seriously, thanks for the help, I'll see if I can get it to work
[01:52] <Silver_Seagull> hopefully bbl
[01:53] <kanzie> noiesmo, mhm... I dont have a smb.conf in /etc
[01:53] <Graxe> MasterShrek: Well, I was hoping to learn more about linux and have something that would be useable like a live cd just in a persistent state with some tools that could help work on other computers and basic applications like IM, Word processing, etc. I found that a knoppix live cd is extremely useful, maybe something like that but the main thing was that it be persistent so that I can add things to it.
[01:54] <noiesmo> kanzie, /etc/samba/smb.conf
[01:54] <riotkittie>  start with the default version, add modules and customize to meet your reeds
[01:54] <riotkittie> needs
[01:54] <riotkittie> my god. why cant i type
[01:54] <arrenlex> riotkittie: apt-get remove typo-demon :)
[01:55] <riotkittie> arrenlex: if only it were that simple!
[01:55] <arrenlex> riotkittie: --purge?
[01:55] <riotkittie> hehehe
[01:56] <variant> how much of the ubuntu launchpad software is still closed source?
[01:56] <cstyve2> Can someone help me with a login problem?
[01:57] <Graxe> OK, I found a tutorial for slax, I will try to install it and report back.
[01:57] <variant> Graxe: /join #slax
[01:57] <MasterShrek> cstyve2 check your login manager properties, something about XDMCP chooser, im not sure exactly if its XDMCP but something like that
[01:57] <Mikey> right, how do i make it detect my ralink cardbus on ra0 ?
[01:57] <kanzie> is there no way to write to ntfs-drives?
[01:57] <noiesmo> !ntfs | kanzie
[01:57] <ubotu> kanzie: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:58] <arrenlex> !ntfs-3f | kanzie
[01:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-3f - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:58] <noiesmo> !ntfs-3g | kanzie
[01:58] <arrenlex> !ntfs-3g | kanzie
[01:58] <ubotu> kanzie: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[01:58] <noiesmo> lol
[01:58] <arrenlex> STUPID F KEY >=||
[01:58] <noiesmo> grrr
[01:58] <riotkittie> heh. just remove it. who needs "f" anyway ;p
[01:58] <cstyve2> I'd like to do that but I can't access a graphical interface
[01:58] <arrenlex> riotkittie: I have no reaking idea.
[01:59] <MasterShrek> log in as root and do startx
[01:59] <kanzie> !fuse
[01:59] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[01:59] <Afraz> i cant believe a loser like me has finally logged in
[01:59] <kanzie> should I use ntfs-3g rather than fuse?
[01:59] <cstyve2> haven't tried that yet...
[02:00] <riotkittie> yes, use ntfs-3g
[02:00] <cstyve2> If not mistaken startx starts default graphical interface correct?
[02:00] <riotkittie> cstyve2: yes
[02:00] <Mikey> i get it detected in the device manager in ubuntu, but i cant find it in the network settings
[02:00] <cstyve2> OK..that should bring up login prompt and not list of servers to connect to?
[02:01] <cstyve2> I'm newbie
[02:01] <riotkittie> yes
[02:02] <Mikey> anyone?
[02:02] <Music_Shuffle> !anyone
[02:02] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:02] <Music_Shuffle> ;p
[02:02] <cstyve2> riotkittie: I'll have to try.  I'm hoping that I won't get connection window.
[02:02] <MasterShrek> cstyve2 after you log in use startx to get to your desktop
[02:02] <riotkittie> heh. i love that bot.
[02:03] <riotkittie> cstyve2: what exactly did you do to *get* a connection window?
[02:03] <cstyve2> MasterShrek: will do....once I reset login defaults not gonna mess around until I read and understand the docs.....
[02:03] <Mikey> ok, ill repeat shall i =) : how do i make it detect my ralink cardbus on ra0, i get it detected in the device manager in ubuntu, but i cant find it in the network settings
[02:03] <cstyve2> MasterShrek: play around with stuff and learn...
[02:03] <MasterShrek> thats the fun of it tho cstyve2
[02:03] <MasterShrek> break it and try to fix it
[02:04] <varsendaggr> hey how do i figure out what kind of video card i have   ?
[02:04] <riotkittie> exactly, MasterShrek :p
[02:04] <Afraz> does any one know how to use this server
[02:04] <cstyve2> MasterShrek: ya until I get myself into trouble....
[02:04] <MasterShrek> well you always have an ubuntu cd to reinstall with
[02:04] <arrenlex> varsendaggr: lspci | grep VGA
[02:04] <riotkittie> like that one day i broke grub. that was fun. wheee.
[02:04] <cstyve2> MasterShrek: I've never even used IRC until now....had to download Edgy Eft Live CD and boot from that on another machine.
[02:05] <cstyve2> MasterShrek: then learn how to use IRC
[02:05] <riotkittie> especially when zenwalk was the only os i could access. and it wasnt picking up my wireless card.
[02:05] <riotkittie> never seen irc?!? the mind, it boggles.
[02:06] <cstyve2> riotkittie: started with ICQ many years ago..now use trillium at work for chat....never had to use IRC for windows....
[02:06] <riotkittie> ah. icq. :)  i havent touched that in ... well, eons.
[02:06] <frak10> does anybody know how to restore a corrupted a corrupted mimefiles database
[02:06] <frak10> ?
[02:07] <thisheregiraffe> icq is old and crusty :x
[02:07] <Mikey> whats the command to list all your network interfaces?
[02:07] <varsendaggr> i am getting fatal server error no screens found
[02:07] <thisheregiraffe> but it was pretty awesome, many years ago
[02:07] <arrenlex> varsendaggr: What card?
[02:07] <cstyve2> yep..haven't had to use much chat stuff...windows application developer
[02:07] <arrenlex> varsendaggr: And what driver are you using?
[02:07] <riotkittie> yeah. i liked icq up until the point that aol bought it
[02:08] <thisheregiraffe> Mikey: try /sbin/ifconfig
[02:08] <tempy> I want to block a domain from being browsed.  How do I go about doing that?  /etc/host.deny? IPTables?  Is there a good place to goto to learn how in a few minutes?
[02:08] <varsendaggr> i am using a savage
[02:08] <riotkittie> and then i had to format my pc and icq would not let me connect on my older version :\
[02:09] <cstyve2> now most contacts are MSN...gag..gag...gag...
[02:09] <Mikey> thisheregiraffe: nope, detects only one (loopback) adapter :(
[02:09] <thisheregiraffe> /sbin/ifconfig -a
[02:09] <thisheregiraffe> maybe?
[02:10] <cstyve2> riotkittie: my login problem...the window listing machines to connect to...
[02:10] <thisheregiraffe> or do /sbin/ifconfig --help
[02:10] <Dragutin00> hey...i accidentally removed the battery icon from my top right bar thing
[02:10] <Dragutin00> how do i get it back?
[02:10] <thisheregiraffe> to check out the optional arguments
[02:10] <cstyve2> riotkittie: is that related to remote login?
[02:10] <Dragutin00> i tried adding another from the add icon panel thing but it's not the same icon
[02:10] <tempy> Dragutin00:  right click on the bar
[02:10] <riotkittie> cstyve2: i *imagine* that it is.
[02:10] <Dragutin00> i can get it back in power management but it just shows up as a separate little bar on the desktop
[02:10] <tempy> add to panel
[02:11] <Dragutin00> tempy: thats what i mean
[02:11] <riotkittie> oh brb. my kid just woke up.
[02:11] <cstyve2> Dragutin00: right click on panel and add to panel
[02:11] <Dragutin00> its not the same icon
[02:11] <varsendaggr> do i have to have fonts installed in order to run xorg?
[02:11] <Mikey> hmm, thisheregiraffe: it shows up "sit0" but no sign of my ralink ra0 !!!
[02:11] <cstyve2> Dragutin00: under system hardware you'll see "battery charge monitor"
[02:12] <frak10> same thing happened with me, use the seamonkey driver with the graphical installer
[02:12] <tempy> Dragutin00 is your laptop plugged into a wall outlet right now?
[02:12] <gradin> can anybody direct me to a united linux support room?
[02:12] <cstyve2> Dragutin00: using Edgy Eft
[02:12] <thisheregiraffe> Mikey, do you know that the ra0 interface already is configured..  or do you need to add it?
[02:12] <Dragutin00> tempy: yes
[02:12] <Dragutin00> cstyve2: yeah.
[02:12] <cstyve2> Dragutin00:whats the icon you see?
[02:12] <Dragutin00> cstyve2: its a battery icon
[02:13] <Dragutin00> cstyve2: but its not the same battery icon that is default installe
[02:13] <psychad> i installed ubuntu desktop 6.10, after installation i shut down, put in a sound card and it just doesn't work. /dev/{audio,dsp,mixer} is missing, i can load the correct module but it wont work, if i add the devices with mknod they are gone after restart
[02:13] <arrenlex> gradin: #linux?
[02:13] <Mikey> thisheregiraffe: well i dont think it is, see first time i run the installer, it detected it, but froze, so enxt time i run the installer, it said that it coulndt dettect it, i just proceded
[02:13] <psychad> which is the ubuntu way to add a soundcard to a machine ?
[02:13] <cstyve2> Dragutin00:right click on the icon and select preferences
[02:13] <gradin> that may work thanks arrenlex
[02:13] <tempy> I think that is why it looks like a wall plug, so if your battery has juice unplug the wall outlet for thirty seconds
[02:14] <Mikey> thisheregiraffe: and it does list it in the device manager, in ubnutu
[02:14] <cstyve2> Dragutin00:there is an option to change the icon compact / expanded view
[02:14] <syutt> holaaaaaaaa
[02:14] <syutt> alguien por hay
[02:14] <syutt> soy nuevo en esto
[02:15] <riotkittie> uh
[02:15] <Tamacracker> he needs a spanish version
[02:15] <mnoir> !es
[02:15] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:15] <torpedo|dog> syutt: hay discusion en espanol en #ubuntu-es
[02:15] <tempy> dragutin00 do you understand what cstyve2 is saying?
[02:15] <thisheregiraffe> Mikey: i'm afraid i'm not sure how you'd set it up.. have you tried doing some googling, or searching on ubuntuforums.org ?
[02:15] <cstyve2> Dragutin00:hows it goin with the icon
[02:15] <Dragutin00> hm
[02:15] <Dragutin00> workin on it
[02:15] <Tamacracker> Hey guys... I have a question
[02:15] <Dragutin00> o yah i know what ur talkin about
[02:15] <Dragutin00> this icon thats available is sorta like....opaque
[02:16] <Tamacracker> what's the most compatible Wireless USB stick for Ubuntu?
[02:16] <tempy> tamacracker, crack away
[02:16] <cstyve2> Tamacracker: what's your question
[02:16] <Dragutin00> and when its plugged in its not a battery icon
[02:16] <Dragutin00> its a wall plug
[02:16] <Mikey> thisheregiraffe: yes ive tried looking through wiki, ok, ill look again, ill come back
[02:16] <Dragutin00> if you go into system, prefs, power management
[02:16] <Dragutin00> and go to always show icon
[02:16] <Dragutin00> it appears for me on the desktop
[02:16] <Dragutin00> like on this extra little bar
[02:17] <Przemcio78> British people are sooo nice and funny :)
[02:17] <riotkittie> Dragutin00: try right? left? clicking on it, see if you get a menu with the option to MOVE
[02:17] <Music_Shuffle> !offtopic
[02:17] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:17] <tempy> tamacracker, I am looking at http://www.ubuntux.org/linux-hardware-compatibility-list.  It is mostlikely your start
[02:17] <uberspaced> anybody in here know how to use wpa_supplicant and ndiswrapper?
[02:17] <riotkittie> if so, select move and drag it to your panel of choice
[02:18] <uberspaced> the card I have is supposedly supported, but I dont get the message I'm supposed to get when i do dmesg
[02:18] <uberspaced> i dont get the message:
[02:18] <uberspaced> wlan0: ndiswrapper ethernet device xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
[02:18] <Dragutin00> riotkittie: but it just moves along the deksto[p
[02:18] <Dragutin00> riotkittie: it doesn't attatch itself to the top bar
[02:19] <uberspaced> the drivers detect that the usb device is present, the card is capable of seeing my router, but it just wont get an IP from the dang thing.
[02:19] <Peebo> Quick one..  How do I change the file associations under Gnome?
[02:19] <smithw> I've just spent 7 hours defragmenting my FAT32 partition, and now, when I'm trying to install Ubuntu, gparted claims it doesn't recognize the FAT32 partition and so it can't resize it. Can anyone tell me where/how do I install this plugin on the live session, please?
[02:19] <kanzie> noiesmo, since I have Swedish-keyboard and swedish windows on the partition writing the files to the ntfs, should I change the line locale=en_US.utf8 to something else or is it clever to keep it that way?
[02:19] <Silver_Seagull2> adaptr: You owe me a beer.  Gparted _failed_ !
[02:20] <riotkittie> smithw: you shouldnt need a plugin
[02:20] <cstyve2> riotkittie: how do you get someones name to appear in your IRC message to them?  I'm constantly having to type in "riotkittie:"
[02:20] <riotkittie> and 7 hours -- are you on a p133? or was the drive just that poorly maintained :P
[02:20] <Silver_Seagull2> adaptr: Granted, it resized the NTFS fine, but it failed creating the new ext3 partition.  Ideas?
[02:20] <tempy> tamacracker, that was mostlikely an outdated listing, do not take my word for it, but most any wireless usb should work, I have not done usb wireless or wired yet
[02:20] <hexidigital> !tab | cstyve2
[02:20] <ubotu> cstyve2: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[02:20] <auTONYmous> beat me to it, hex
[02:20] <tempy> I think linksys should be okay
[02:20] <hexidigital> auTONYmous::  :)
[02:20] <smithw> riotkittie: do you have any idea why is gparted saying that it's "unable to read the contents of this partitions etc."?
[02:21] <riotkittie> cstyve2: try the first few letters of a persons nick, then hitting TAB
[02:21] <Peebo> does any one even know how to change the file associations under Gnome?
[02:21] <noiesmo> kanzie, sorry I'm not sure I don't right to ntfs
[02:21] <smithw> riotkittie: it's not my home hard drive, I'm test driving ubuntu on work hoping to convince my boss to adopt it...
[02:21] <noiesmo> right/write
[02:21] <Peebo> Linksys is the last hardware you should use
[02:21] <Argonis> Hey can somebody help me with a GRUB issue?
[02:21] <Tamacracker> tempy that's the thing though
[02:21] <riotkittie> smithw: i really have no clue. what size is the drive?
[02:21] <Tamacracker> i wanna know if someone here has a usb stick
[02:21] <cstyve2> riotkittie: HA....now I'm cookin..any other shortcuts I've probably read about and didn't understand
[02:21] <smithw> riotkittie: 40 GB
[02:21] <noiesmo> !ask | Argonis
[02:21] <ubotu> Argonis: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:21] <Tamacracker> and i'll just buy the same one
[02:22] <auTONYmous> Tamacracker: I do...what's the issue?
[02:22] <Argonis> ok
[02:22] <thisheregiraffe> Tamacracker: i have a usb stick.  what's up?
[02:22] <Argonis> haha
[02:22] <noiesmo> Argonis, :)
[02:22] <riotkittie> cstyve2: none that i can think of off the top of my head.
[02:22] <psychad> how do i add a soundcard to ubuntu after install?
[02:22] <cstyve2> riotkittie, thanks....
[02:23] <riotkittie> smithw: i'm completely clueless as to why its not being recognized, sorry
[02:23] <smithw> riotkittie: theoretically, should it be?
[02:23] <Peebo> Tamacracker, By stick you mean USB key disk ?
[02:23] <Argonis> Alright when I load my external drive (I set it to boot first in my BIOS) I get just "GRUB" at the top left of the screen with no menu or options
[02:23] <tempy> peebo:  Are you talking about the file browser nautilus?
[02:23] <Siro> help! my sys folder was deleted what can i do?
[02:23] <Tamacracker> Peebo
[02:24] <Peebo> tempy, Yup
[02:24] <Tamacracker> instead of using a wireless card
[02:24] <Tamacracker> you just stick the usb stick into the usb port
[02:24] <Tamacracker> then you pick up a wireless connection
[02:24] <auTONYmous> Tamacracker: oh, you mean you have a USB wireless NIC?
[02:24] <tempy> Most programs have their own list of for file types
[02:24] <Tamacracker> yes but USB form not network card.
[02:24] <Peebo> Tamacracker, Ah a wireless USB  adapter
[02:24] <thisheregiraffe> Tamacracker: i thought we were talking usb memory keys.. woops.
[02:24] <Tamacracker> i need to know what's the most compatible.
[02:25] <Tamacracker> yes Peebo
[02:25] <Tamacracker> im about to go to the store
[02:25] <Tamacracker> and buy one.
[02:25] <cstyve2> riotkittie: how would I go about chatting directly with someone instead of viewing all messages when asking question
[02:25] <Borzen> Hay i back That means i eather copyed something wrong or it the error
[02:25] <atarinox> hi, does anybody know a good channel for hardware troubleshooting hardware...i'm having some issues with my first PC build
[02:25] <Tamacracker> i dont want a card, i dont have any more pci slots.
[02:25] <tempy> peebo, right-click on the file you what to open
[02:25] <cstyve2> riotkittie: basically I want to filter conversation list temporarily
[02:25] <Beforewisdom> I've tried both xdtv and zapping tv.
[02:25] <Beforewisdom> The volume control in both apps (keyboard and gui) doesn't seem to work. The audio is full of static and slightly screetchy like a speaker turned too high.
[02:25] <Beforewisdom> Any idea what the problem ( and solution )might be?
[02:25] <riotkittie> cstyve2: try /msg <nick> or
[02:25] <tempy> peebo:  go to properties
[02:25] <riotkittie> err /query nick
[02:25] <Tamacracker> does anyone here use a wireless usb adapter on ubuntu, and if so... may i know the name of it?
[02:26] <Peebo> Tamacracker, the Netgear stuff runs on realtek chips. It should work fine under linux
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[02:26] <tempy> peebo:  then click on the open-with tab
[02:26] <Mikey> argh, ok this is doing rude things to me that i cannot say. wiki says that my card should be mounted from the start, it shows up in the device manager, and with command dmesg, but not in network settings =\
[02:26] <Tamacracker> do you think walmart will have it?
[02:26] <kanzie> do I need to keep the umask and gid-values in my fstab when changing from ntfs to ntfs-3g?
[02:26] <cstyve2> msg riotkittie testing msg
[02:26] <Argonis> Why doesn't my GRUB let me choose an OS and load it? why is it stuck on a black screen with the work GRUB on it?
[02:26] <Tamacracker> netgear?
[02:26] <Tamacracker> i know they have belkin.
[02:26] <riotkittie> and that should open 1 on 1 convos in a seperate window ... depending on your irc client
[02:26] <atarinox> or can anyone help me with this problem...my pc booted first time just fine, showed up on hte display, everything seemed in order. now i tried to boot a 2nd time nad not getting any display
[02:26] <riotkittie> ack. i am being attacked by a toddler. be back in a bit.
[02:27] <auTONYmous> kanzie: that should work...just change the "ntfs" entry to "ntfs-3g"
[02:27] <Peebo> riotkittie, Throw food at it I heard that works
[02:27] <Mikey> can i restart the network detection?
[02:27] <Tamacracker> Peebo do you think belkin is compatible?
[02:27] <SmoothOp> is there a distro that supports really old hardware
[02:27] <auTONYmous> Peebo: or open the rear access panel and clean out all the poo
[02:28] <Borzen> Hello is there any body that can fix my problem
[02:28] <Peebo> Tamacracker, Belkin gear in general is not good. Interoperability problems even under Windoze
[02:28] <_3fg> !codecs
[02:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:28] <cstyve2> riotkittie: using xchat  I can click on nick and start dialog but doesn't seem to get me anywhere
[02:28] <Tamacracker> eek
[02:28] <killown> SmoothOp you can to install new distro for old hardwares lol
[02:28] <Tamacracker> i can only find netgear online :\
[02:28] <Mikey> !network
[02:28] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:28] <Peebo> autoklauen, Yeah but my way smells better and is generally quicker.  :)
[02:28] <Siro> help! my sys folder was deleted what can i do?
[02:28] <auTONYmous> touche
[02:29] <Peebo> B^)
[02:29] <magic_ninja> SmoothOp: i have written a howto on installing on old hardware (i did it on 500mhz laptop) and its not the best, but i'll get the job done from a live cd
[02:29] <IntuitiveNipple> cstyve2: I seem to recall Freenode requires registered nicknames before it allows PVT chat
[02:29] <Mikey> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessNetworking?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=NetworkAdmin1.png
[02:29] <Mikey> i dont see my card in that screen :S
[02:29] <Argonis> can somebody please help me with my grub that is stuck?
[02:29] <Borzen> I need help. Ubuntu wont get pass, this is on the live cd, it locks up on loading.
[02:30] <Borzen> The kurnal loads but ubuntu dosent
[02:30] <cstyve2> riotkittie: don't want to send private message...when sending messages to specific nick want to see only their replies to me.
[02:30] <cstyve2> riotkittie: currently see everything going on
[02:30] <Harksaw> what's the easiest ftp server program?
[02:31] <magic_ninja> Harksaw: gftp is a good one
[02:31] <cstyve2> IntuitiveNipple: How do I registger nick...
[02:31] <Silver_Seagull2> Harksaw: FileZilla?
[02:31] <kanzie> hmmm... I changed ntfs to ntfs-3g but then the drive disappeared from the desktop upon restart
[02:31] <Peebo> riotkittie, You still messing with the ankle biter ? Is it yours ?
[02:31] <magic_ninja> cstyve2: /msg nickserv register <password>
[02:31] <auTONYmous> cstyve2: /msg nickserv help
[02:31] <Sulo_Seppa> is it easy 2 install beryl on a machine with ati?
[02:31] <magic_ninja> or /msg magic_ninja <passowrd> LOL
[02:31] <kanzie> do I have to set manual mountpoints in fstab when I switch from ntfs to ntfs-3g?
[02:31] <cstyve2> IntuitiveNipple: running live cd installed xchat..ran through setup and here I am...
[02:32] <Peebo> magic_ninja, U a bad boy  :)
[02:32] <Borzen> Help
[02:32] <magic_ninja> hehe
[02:32] <tempy> I want to block a domain from being browsed.  How do I go about doing that?  /etc/host.deny? IPTables?  Is there a good place to goto to learn how in a few minutes?
[02:32] <auTONYmous> kanzie: are you using the ntfs-3g debs from ubuntuforums? (flomertens)
[02:32] <Harksaw> gftp is just a client, isn't it?
[02:32] <joshua__> WHATS UP ALL IM NEW CAN I GET SOME HELP
[02:33] <blanky> joshua__: just ask...
[02:33] <Peebo> joshua__, That depends on what kind of help you need.
[02:33] <auTONYmous> joshua__: state your problem
[02:33] <Borzen> Will someone tell me if that ubuntu suports Dual-Cores
[02:33] <Apollo> hey argonis what is your problem with grub
[02:33] <auTONYmous> Borzen: yes, but you may need a different kernel from the default
[02:34] <joshua__> IM TRY TO DOWNLOAD HOW TO
[02:34] <Peebo> Borzen, I believe it dose but I have no experience
[02:34] <kanzie> auTONYmous, well yes, but the main-all testing -ones, since they are the latest and does not have a memory-leak that the last one did...
[02:34] <Argonis> when I boot up my external drive I get the word GRUB stuck on a blank screen and I can't choose an OS
[02:34] <Tamacracker> Does anyone know if Linksys wireless usb adapter is good for Ubuntu?
[02:34] <magic_ninja> joshua__: first take off caps lock, caps are annoying and anger ops
[02:34] <Borzen> Ok how easy is to get that, cuz it keep lock ing up when i try to load it from the live CD
[02:35] <auTONYmous> kanzie: there's more than one package for ntfs-3g. You also need the patched "pmount" package for Gnome to automount the disk
[02:35] <kanzie> auTONYmous, maybe I should have gone with the safe bets... =( should I try to uninstall this version and how on earth would I go about doing such a thing?
[02:35] <Openix> Borzen: Edgy supports dual core by default
[02:35] <Borzen> Ok
[02:35] <joshua__> OFF TORRENT IRC PLACE i get command problems
[02:35] <Borzen> I have that so what is causeing it to lock up
[02:35] <Peebo> Tamacracker, Trust me Linksys wireless gear is no good. Endless problems not least of which is lousy transmit  distance
[02:36] <Openix> Borzen: is your install 32 or 64 bit version
[02:36] <Thug-N-Me> error: Python Warning " Mailcap file /etc/mailcap, line 99: incomplete entry ignored" . line 99 is application/x-sc
[02:36] <Peebo> Tamacracker, It may say Cisco but it's re-badged crap
[02:36] <Borzen> 64 i have amd X2
[02:36] <kanzie> auTONYmous, how do I find and install the patch?
[02:36] <Openix> Borzen: ok, I have 32 bit running
[02:36] <Tamacracker> so netgear is the only way to go?
[02:37] <Tamacracker> belkin and linksys is crap
[02:37] <kanzie> found a link, can I just install this one over the previous one?
[02:37] <Borzen> Do u know any one with 64 runing?
[02:37] <tempy> peebo that is any wireless
[02:37] <auTONYmous> kanzie: it's in the same repo. install it with synaptic
[02:37] <Peebo> Tamacracker, I have a Linksys wireless access point, scored it for free, thank the gods I did not pay money for it.
[02:37] <Openix> Borzen:no, have you tried 32 bit?
[02:37] <Apollo> i had probs with GRUB i had ubuntu on another hd and i already installed fedora on my slave
[02:37] <Peebo> tempy, ???
[02:37] <Borzen> The kurnal paicics when i Do
[02:37] <Tamacracker> :\ i just wanna be able to have wireless on my machine
[02:38] <IntuitiveNipple> My Linksys WAP54G gives me useful connections out to about 1/2 mile
[02:38] <Tamacracker> and i dont wanna buy a product that's not compatible with ubuntu.
[02:38] <Apollo> wouldn't recognize the other new syatem
[02:38] <auTONYmous> kanzie: you want the 0.9.13-1givre4 version
[02:38] <Argonis> yeah well my grub isn't recognizing anything apparently
[02:38] <IntuitiveNipple> Tamacracker: read the ubuntu Neworking & Wireless forums for clues as to the good and bad devices: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=136
[02:39] <tempy> peebo unless you have a job as a network admin with wireless specialty, you can not just say no to one brand because you had a problem with ONE device from a brand
[02:39] <Openix> Borzen: is it the same thing every time that causes the panics?
[02:39] <Peebo> Netgear is good, if you only need 10Mb and can find it, the Orinoco PCMCIA cards were the best but that was 5 years ago.
[02:39] <kanzie> auTONYmous, aye... following the instraitions on ubuntuforums now...
[02:39] <Apollo> it's outta my realm
[02:39] <Tamacracker> i have everyone says their product sucks lol
[02:39] <IntuitiveNipple> Orinco_cs doesn't suport WPA right now
[02:39] <tempy> tamacracker, what store were you going to go to?
[02:39] <Tamacracker> belkin, especially netgear, and linksys.
[02:39] <tempy> staples, bestbuy?
[02:39] <Borzen> Yes it the same thing every single time the 64 is the onaly one i can get the kurnal to boot
[02:39] <auTONYmous> kanzie: good deal. Check synaptic to force the version. I believe one of the ubuntu main updates overwrites it
[02:39] <Tamacracker> walmart.. since it's open and it's cheaper.
[02:39] <kanzie> auTONYmous, "Instructions to build pmount (for remoavle device only) for Amd 64 in edgy"
[02:39] <Peebo> I am a network admin been in the biz for 20 years and have had to deal with Linksys crap on many sites
[02:40] <IntuitiveNipple> Tamacracker: Ignore most of the comments, they mostly come from people with little understanding of the technologies!
[02:40] <Apollo> sorry Argonis, I can't help maybe someone here can?
[02:40] <kanzie> auTONYmous, Ill do it in console
[02:40] <tempy> one sec tamacracker let me check something
[02:40] <auTONYmous> kanzie: look for the main NTFS-3g thread...it's on the first page
[02:40] <marhoof> hello everybody I have some problems with my wireless card ^ my card smc model no:smc2532w-b  can you help me??????
[02:40] <Mikey> right, what does it mean when it says UNCLAIMED next to the network heading in the output of lshw commans
[02:40] <auTONYmous> kanzie: are you on AMD64?
[02:40] <tempy> intuitivenipple you are RIGHT!!! ntuitiveNipple: Tamacracker: Ignore most of the comments, they mostly come from people with little understanding of the technologies!
[02:40] <Openix> Borzen: sounds like a hardware isuue
[02:40] <Tamacracker> IntuitiveNipple, thus is why im here.. to ask if anyone at this current moment has a Wireless USB Adapter that works flawlessly.
[02:40] <kanzie> auTONYmous, yes
[02:40] <IntuitiveNipple> tempy: I know, I set-up and ran a Wireless rural broadband business
[02:41] <mag_> hey... do you know why I can't to log in windows...? I have a account with samba but when I want to log in windows, windows requestme user and pass but I can't type the user !! :(  .....................................................
[02:41] <Tamacracker> I just want to plug it into the usb port
[02:41] <auTONYmous> kanzie: Oh, I know Givre built some packages for 686, not sure about 64-bit, but he does make the patch available
[02:41] <Tamacracker> and it be recognized
[02:41] <Borzen> That is what i think but i get that is my Video card and my CPU, Cuz i am using Nvidia for gameing
[02:41] <Tamacracker> without any problems and then log onto the wireless network.
[02:41] <Peebo> IntuitiveNipple, What was your longest wireless shot? Mine was 5 Km's not far I know but terrain got it the way
[02:41] <auTONYmous> kanzie: he patched pmount, and did some changes to the HAL rules
[02:41] <tempy> I do many installs with SOHO routers and the only problem is the client (Windows)
[02:42] <adamlaz> hi all
[02:42] <auTONYmous> kanzie: try getting his source deb and building yourself
[02:42] <adamlaz> im getting a 'Failed to fetch http://www.getautomatix.com/apt/dists/dapper/Release.gpg Could not connect to www.getautomatix.com:80 (82.165.193.29). - connect (111 Connection refused)' error trying to upgrade to 6.10
[02:42] <Openix> Borzen: have you posted your problem to ubuntuforums.org?
[02:42] <tempy> TAMACRACKER, trust me, I do not know which (brand is best) but try what you can
[02:43] <Tamacracker> lol
[02:43] <IntuitiveNipple> Peebo: hlaf-duplex could get 54Mbps out to 2km using circular polarised directional attenas
[02:43] <Borzen> No onaly on max pc's alt os fourms
[02:43] <Peebo> Of course in the Military with an 11 metre mast we were getting 20-30 Km's.
[02:43] <Tamacracker> maybe ill just wait then... when ubuntu matures more.
[02:43] <tempy> Before purchase go to customer service and see what the return policy is on the product, then try it, unless intuitivenipple disagrees
[02:43] <Openix> Borzen: ubuntuforums.org is the best to post to
[02:43] <IntuitiveNipple> Tamacracker: Your best bet may be to look at devices that workin in Windows and also with the Linux NDIS wrapper
[02:43] <Borzen> ok i try there
[02:43] <Silver_Seagull> Can anyone give me a tip on what the boot option is to skip GDM startup in the 6.10 LiveCD?
[02:43] <Tamacracker> im not gonna keep goin back and forth gettin different products just to find out non of  them work.
[02:44] <kanzie> auTONYmous, ok, now I have done all it instructed me to, I have pmount 0.9.13-1givre4 installed now
[02:44] <kanzie> now what?
[02:44] <Tamacracker> non of them say anything about compatibility with linux.
[02:44] <Tamacracker> only windows and macs.
[02:44] <Tamacracker> that's it.
[02:44] <auTONYmous> kanzie: internal or USB?
[02:44] <IntuitiveNipple> Tamacracker:  try reading this: http://czarism.com/easy-peasy-wireless-w-ubuntu-debian-linux
[02:44] <Tamacracker> linux is non-existent in the mainstream world.
[02:45] <adamlaz> is anyone available?
[02:45] <Peebo> IntuitiveNipple, I used a horizontally polarised half pipe shaped directional antenna
[02:45] <Silver_Seagull> Tamacracker: Tell a server admin that ;)
[02:45] <Silver_Seagull> Tamacracker: ...then duck really fast
[02:45] <Tamacracker> Go to any retail store and say the word Linux... I bet people think you're speaking german.
[02:45] <kanzie> auTONYmous, internal...two discs with ntfs
[02:45] <tempy> has any one done a install with USB network device here?
[02:45] <IntuitiveNipple> Peebo: I've got the farm here covered with an omnidirectional driven by a custom-firmware Linksys WAP54G with its power upped by about 25%
[02:45] <MasterLexx> huh why?
[02:45] <tempy> I think that is the key q
[02:45] <auTONYmous> Silver_Seagull: Oh, it exists, but corporations think anything besides RHEL or SuSE are evil
[02:46] <fatlip> quick question..in xorg.conf -- the device configuration: "PCI:1:0:0" -- what's what? if my card has two outputs, how do i specify one over the other? 1:0:0 and 1:0:1?
[02:46] <Silver_Seagull> auTONYmous: meh, their loss :D
[02:46] <MasterLexx> when i go in a store and ask for linux there is nothing unusual with it.
[02:46] <auTONYmous> kanzie: check fstab, unmount and remount (mount -a should do it)
[02:46] <MasterLexx> maybe because i live in germany?
[02:46] <Peebo> IntuitiveNipple, upped by 25% means your probably close to a netgear with no weaking.
[02:46] <Silver_Seagull> auTONYmous: btw- is there a boot option list somewhere? :/  *.ubuntu.com has failed me
[02:47] <riotkittie> when i go in a store and ask for linux, they look at me like i am crazy
[02:47] <riotkittie> then again, i only shop at liquor stores.
[02:47] <fatlip> LOL!
[02:47] <MasterLexx> ?
[02:47] <riotkittie> thank you, thank you. i'll be here all week.
[02:47] <auTONYmous> Silver_Seagull: you mean Grub's config and the options you can pass?
[02:47] <MasterLexx> here in germany there are many shops that sell linux, but most sell only suse
[02:47] <IntuitiveNipple> Peebo: all devices  are set close to the legal maximum in the amps, taking account of the EIRP which depends on the antennas
[02:47] <kanzie> auTONYmous, oooh... this really didnt work
[02:47] <Tamacracker> thank you
[02:47] <Tamacracker> I'm goin with Belkin
[02:47] <Silver_Seagull> auTONYmous: No, on the LiveCD- I need to stop GDM from starting
[02:47] <kanzie> auTONYmous, can I show you a pastebin?
[02:48] <tempy> tamacracker?
[02:48] <Tamacracker> that site just shows proof that belkin works
[02:48] <IntuitiveNipple> Tamacracker: Did that link help?
[02:48] <IntuitiveNipple> good
[02:48] <Tamacracker> and walmart sells belkin
[02:48] <Mikey> ok, if anyone can help, ive got a little dificulty understanding the output of lshw
[02:48] <Tamacracker> thanks IntuitiveNipple
[02:48] <Mikey> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide#check
[02:48] <riotkittie> MasterLexx: there are a few places where Linux is sold in stores here but the sections are somewhat unimpressive
[02:48] <IntuitiveNipple> make sure you get the SAME model then - different models may well use different chipsets
[02:48] <riotkittie> i think Wal-Mart is selling Ubuntu. perhaps that is only online though
[02:48] <Peebo> I have a WAP 54G with twin ant's and it hardly covers my house. Because I got ti for free I'm think of messing with it's guts try and make it work.
[02:48] <auTONYmous> Silver_Seagull: not sure...I think you can edit the boot options on the CD's grub...select your choice, press "e" and put "single" at the end of the line
[02:48] <Mikey> this site tells me to see if there is a driver?? what should i look for??
[02:48] <Tamacracker> yeah and im assuming that Edge Eft is more advanced than Breezy.. yes?
[02:49] <auTONYmous> kanzie: patste away
[02:49] <Tamacracker> edgy*
[02:49] <Flannel> Tamacracker: newer
[02:49] <Silver_Seagull> auTONYmous: mkay, give it a go in a bit
[02:49] <IntuitiveNipple> Peebo - I've never had a problem with WAP54Gs, and we've installed hundreds
[02:49] <Tamacracker> yeah so it's ok :D
[02:49] <Silver_Seagull> auTONYmous: thanks
[02:49] <Tamacracker> brb
[02:49] <IntuitiveNipple> maybe you have a bad one or your location isn't radio-friendly
[02:49] <MasterLexx> you can buy ubuntu on ebay for 2 euro
[02:49] <kanzie> auTONYmous, paste.uni.cc/12629
[02:49] <Mikey> !pastebin
[02:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:49] <Peebo> IntuitiveNipple, What country U in ?
[02:50] <IntuitiveNipple> UK
[02:50] <auTONYmous> kanzie: modprobe fuse
[02:50] <Peebo> IntuitiveNipple, Ok I'm in Aus so the spec's should be the same. How did you boost the TX power
[02:50] <IntuitiveNipple> The funniest Wireless experience I ever had was a business customer who had a temp office and wanted networking so we used wireless and couldn't work out why they kept losing connections and had bad signals.
[02:50] <auTONYmous> kanzie: oops...sudo modprobe fuse
[02:51] <peace-keeper> stupid linux displays wrong time :(
[02:51] <IntuitiveNipple> Turned out they were based in a former radiology lab and it had a faraday cage built into the walls!
[02:51] <riotkittie> yikes
[02:51] <kanzie> auTONYmous, did that, no difference when trying mount -a after
[02:51] <jordo> someone know the madwifi mode
[02:51] <IntuitiveNipple> Peeob - its a long time ago now (years) but I found a firmware upgrade for it and installed that... i think it was called Hyper... something
[02:51] <auTONYmous> kanzie: lsmod|grep fuse, and msg it to me
[02:51] <IntuitiveNipple> let me log into it and see, if i can recall the password
[02:52] <jordo> no one can help me about madwifi configuration
[02:52] <Peebo> IntuitiveNipple, That would make radio a little difficult :).  Didn't they notice they couldn't get the local FM station
[02:53] <kanzie> auTONYmous, fuse 41864     0
[02:53] <kanzie> auTONYmous, trying to update the fuse now
[02:53] <IntuitiveNipple> Peebo: HyperWAP v1.0 v2.07
[02:53] <Mikey> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/896/
[02:53] <Mikey> please someone look at my paste, i had to type it manually :(
[02:53] <IntuitiveNipple> Peebo - they didn't have radio receivers, just a temp office until their new premises were built
[02:54] <IntuitiveNipple> But, it certainly gave us a few months of head-scratching
[02:54] <toothpick> Is there a bot here to easy questions?
[02:54] <IntuitiveNipple> In the end we replaced it all with a wired net
[02:54] <kanzie> auTONYmous, downloading and installing fuse 2.6.1 now
[02:54] <Peebo> IntuitiveNipple, Just googled that so I'm off to investigate
[02:54] <auTONYmous> kanzie: http://flomertens.keo.in/
[02:55] <toothpick> I want the fglrx easy way.
[02:55] <Borzen> If any one can answer my question before some one on the furms they will be prised highly in my life
[02:55] <Mikey> no rush
[02:55] <kanzie> auTONYmous, can I just follow those instructions on top of what I have done now?
[02:56] <jsewell> where is grub.conf?  I assume under /etc somewhere but the file mgr's find can't find it...
[02:56] <LSolaris> HELP: hey, anyone on freenode, i need someone to give me the name of the person who runs #gnupg, i have to report an abusive admin
[02:56] <auTONYmous> kanzie: an update might do some good, and checking that you have all the packages (and versions) listed on his web page
[02:57] <jackson3246> is there any way to emulate an installed windows partition from a linux partition?
[02:57] <IntuitiveNipple> "emulate" ?
[02:57] <jackson3246> or like.. run
[02:57] <kyncani> jsewell: google grub.conf
[02:57] <jackson3246> whatever the correct term is
[02:57] <IntuitiveNipple> hmm, do you mean get access to the files on it?
[02:57] <Mikey> how do i know my kernel v?
[02:57] <jackson3246> nope I know how to do that
[02:57] <Borzen> Does any one ever had a live CD lock up on them
[02:57] <jackson3246> and kyncani: I know how to boot it.
[02:57] <IntuitiveNipple> ok, you mean run the EXEs then??
[02:57] <Mikey> Borzen i did
[02:57] <jackson3246> no I know about wine
[02:57] <mon^rch> can anyone help me do grub-install hd0 ????
[02:58] <jackson3246> I mean like qemuing the partition
[02:58] <Argonis> anybody ever had GRUB freeze with a black screen with just GRUB on it? ;p
[02:58] <Borzen> Mikey did u fix it and what r u specks
[02:58] <bds> Mikey: uname -a
[02:58] <IntuitiveNipple> virtualise?
[02:58] <jackson3246> yeah
[02:58] <jackson3246> there you go.
[02:58] <jackson3246> haha sorry
[02:58] <auTONYmous> jackson3246: I took the easy (and costly) route: vmware workstation
[02:58] <IntuitiveNipple> lol ha! got there in the end!
[02:58] <Pie-rate> how would i start another X on tty6?
[02:58] <draeath> Waht hapenned to RestrictedFormats? All the good information is gone!
[02:58] <IntuitiveNipple> I'm not sure jackson3246 , not about an already installed partition anyhow
[02:58] <Mikey> ah thnkx bds, it seems that whey i ask short qs they get answered quick :)
[02:59] <draeath> seriously, all the stuff for xubuntu etc is gone
[02:59] <jackson3246> IntuitiveNipple: hm... alrighty then. I'll check the qemy documentation first I guess
[02:59] <jackson3246> qemu*
[02:59] <jackson3246> thanks for the help
[02:59] <kanzie> auTONYmous, sigh, that lead me back to the installation-instructions I have been following... since there is no text for edgy unless I go to the ubuntuforums, which lead me where I am now
[02:59] <Borzen> i did but that go me nowhere
[02:59] <auTONYmous> jackson3246: keep in mind that it may not boot in vmware if you already have IDE drivers, etc loaded under Winblows
[02:59] <IntuitiveNipple> too late, he gorn!
[02:59] <mon^rch> can anyone help me do grub-install hd0 ???
[02:59] <IntuitiveNipple> I'm sure he'll discover that ... eventually!
[03:00] <IntuitiveNipple> mon^rch: what do you need?
[03:00] <mon^rch> I need to know how to do it... can I just use the live cd and run grub-install???
[03:00] <auTONYmous> kanzie: hm...try commenting out the UUID's in fstab and use the /dev/node names
[03:01] <Borzen> U have to ckick on install when the OS loads
[03:01] <Mikey> ok, im stuck, how do i know that my ralink driver is loaded?
[03:01] <IntuitiveNipple> mon^rch:  There's some useful details on doing this manually in the FakeRAIDhowto at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[03:01] <kyncani> mon^rch: why do you need to do it ?
[03:01] <IntuitiveNipple> Look for the heading "Installing the Bootloader Package"
[03:01] <mon^rch> winxp rewrote my boot menu...
[03:01] <auTONYmous> fakeraid is a thorn in my side right now
[03:01] <kyncani> !grub
[03:02] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:02] <variant> Mikey: lsmod
[03:02] <atarinox> hi, does anybody know a good channel for PC hardware support?
[03:02] <IntuitiveNipple> auTONYmous: mine too!
[03:02] <variant> atarinox: #hardware
[03:02] <kyncani> !grub >mon^rch
[03:02] <kanzie> auTONYmous, /dev/node-names?
[03:02] <_3fg> I've installed Beryl, but now I can't see videos
[03:02] <auTONYmous> kanzie: like /dev/hda1, etc....the /dev/xxx name for the disk/partition you're trying to mount
[03:02] <draeath> Anyone know if its possible to see previous versions of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[03:02] <fatlip> what's what? if my card has two outputs, how do i specify one over the other? 1:0:0 and 1:0:1?
[03:02] <bds> Mikey: If it is a module then perhaps 'lsmod' will work?
[03:02] <fatlip> i'm lost =/
[03:02] <variant> _3fg: change te video ouput to something other than default like xv or gl
[03:02] <IntuitiveNipple> whats your issue? I've found bugs and other stuff and still not got Edgy to install on it - mostly because of a problem with GRUB
[03:03] <Bou> when i go to boot with ubunto, i get crazy patterns of color instead of actually seeing ubunto, any help?
[03:03] <magic_ninja> what command tells me my nvidia driver settings?
[03:03] <variant> Bou: boot in safe graphics mode
[03:03] <magic_ninja> grrr
[03:03] <auTONYmous> IntuitiveNipple: was that to me?
[03:03] <magic_ninja> my nvidia driver version?
[03:03] <drivera90> !equivalents
[03:03] <ubotu> A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[03:03] <IntuitiveNipple> auTONYmous:  yes :)
[03:03] <Bou> I tried safer graphics mode, but it didnt work
[03:03] <kanzie> auTONYmous, but then I need to provide a mount-point manually too right?
[03:03] <kyncani> draeath: you can use the wayback machine. google  wayback
[03:04] <auTONYmous> IntuitiveNipple: existing Windows on the fakeraid. All Linux distros want to set up the fakeraid themselves, but won't access a disk set created by Windows
[03:04] <mon^rch> how stable is feisty... anyone using it?
[03:04] <Mikey> bds: its a cardbus, output of lsmod: it says rt2500, used by 0
[03:04] <auTONYmous> kanzie: yes
[03:04] <Mikey> bds: so it is loaded i gather?
[03:04] <IntuitiveNipple> auTONYmous: Yeah, same here. See my articles in the Installation & Upgrades forums
[03:04] <tempy> how do I block a domain?
[03:04] <IntuitiveNipple> I'm almost got it solved, but its taking time
[03:04] <kanzie> oh, so instead of UUID I enter the corresponding /dev-name?
[03:04] <metal03> Hi there, I'm in the process of installing video codecs (and I think I have it all...) but I still need some codec for some .rmvb files!!   And I can't find a way to make that work...  I checked the forums and couldn't find anything that worked!
[03:05] <draeath> kyncani, http://web.archive.org/web/*/https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[03:05] <draeath> kyncani, doesn't like https, nothing shows for http
[03:05] <draeath> RestrictedFormats on the wiki is now USELESS. Where can I get the old information?
[03:05] <auTONYmous> IntuitiveNipple: url?
[03:05] <auTONYmous> kanzie: yep
[03:05] <borg> how come Flash performs far better in windows than it does in linux?
[03:06] <IntuitiveNipple> auTONYmous: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=333708 and others under my nickname you'll find
[03:06] <kanzie> auTONYmous, same error
[03:06] <IntuitiveNipple> AuT http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=313684
[03:06] <auTONYmous> kanzie: You could take the existing UUID entry in fstab, copy it, and change the UUID to /dev/xxx
[03:06] <kanzie> should I download the fuse and manually install it as it suggests?
[03:06] <Bou> When i try and boot ubunto, the graphics don't work, ive dtried safe graphics mode, but it doesn't work
[03:06] <tempy> borg, two different OSes and adobe does not take enough time to devel
[03:06] <magic_ninja> !coolbits
[03:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about coolbits - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:07] <magic_ninja> !nv-clock
[03:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nv-clock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:07] <_3fg> variant: in mplayer or what?
[03:07] <mon^rch> ty all
[03:07] <kyncani> draeath: well, don't know then. Strange wayback not working
[03:07] <borg> tempy, even when i run flash in an emulated windows enviroment such as VMware-player it still uses far more CPU, why is that, i mean it's still widnows isnt it? just emulated in a pc emulator
[03:07] <auTONYmous> IntuitiveNipple: that's why I haven't bothered lately...
[03:07] <compsman> help help i need help on swap
[03:07] <Mikey> bds: RT2500 shows up in device manager with everythig there, but not in network settings
[03:07] <Bou> When i try and boot ubunto, the graphics don't work, ive dtried safe graphics mode, but it doesn't work
[03:08] <IntuitiveNipple> auTONYmous: Yeah... I'm determined.. once GRUB is sorted out it'll work
[03:08] <kitche> compsman: what's do you need want to know about swap?
[03:08] <draeath> kyncani, i'd like to know why the whole page got wiped due to one or two things not working
[03:08] <compsman> i cant get my mounted
[03:08] <jewbile1> What is beryl?
[03:08] <Mikey> Bou: get alternate iso, worked for me
[03:08] <variant> compsman: you dont mount swap
[03:08] <compsman> i forgot to set up swap
[03:08] <Flannel> !beryl | jewbile1
[03:08] <tempy> mainly that's emulated
[03:08] <ubotu> jewbile1: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[03:08] <tempy> what is your host os?
[03:08] <compsman> i maded one but how i mount it
[03:08] <IntuitiveNipple> I've done an identical install into a non RAID drive on the same system with same sized partitions so I can just move the entire install across using dd once I have GRUB sorted
[03:08] <mon^rch> beryl is cool
[03:08] <kitche> compsman: ok you can use a swap file if you want
[03:08] <jewbile1> would beryl replace nautilus?
[03:09] <metal03> I'm trying to listen to .RMVB files (video) but it's not working...  anyone knows what to do?
[03:09] <variant> compsman: so do mkswap /dev/whatever && swapon /dev/whatever && nano -w /etc/fstab and add a line in there referencing it
[03:09] <kanzie> auTONYmous, since that gave the same error Im truing to manually download the fuse-package and install it as the error suggests
[03:09] <auTONYmous> IntuitiveNipple: If my desktop/media server wasn't in such heavy use, I'd actually try that..
[03:09] <variant> compsman: i reccomend you reboot to the live cd and shrink a partition for swap if you don't already have one available, swapfiles are not nearly as good as dedicated swap
[03:09] <borg> tempy my host OS is ubuntu didnt catch your question there for a moment, ya gotta hightlight my name :P
[03:09] <neighborlee> does anyone know why audacity causes weird st atic during playback of recorded audio ?..if I use aoss audacity the problem disappears , but why ? ;l))
[03:10] <kanzie> auTONYmous, *sigh* then it tells me I need to specify where my kernel source is... where is that located on edgy?
[03:10] <bds> Mikey: I believe if lsmod says 0 then the module is not being used
[03:10] <gili> question about remote desktop in edgy: how does a win xp machnie connect...MUST i use vnc or can use the xp native remote desktop
[03:10] <gili> ?
[03:10] <IntuitiveNipple> auTONYmous: yeah, I know what you mean. I have two identical PCs with dual-Athlons and FakeRAID that work fine for Windows
[03:10] <bds> Mikey: What type of device is this again?
[03:10] <Mikey> cardbus wireless adapter, ralink, chipset RT2500
[03:10] <Flannel> jewbile1: no, beryl will replace metacity
[03:10] <auTONYmous> kanzie: you have to install the kernel-source package
[03:10] <draeath> RestrictedFormats on the wiki is now USELESS. Where can I get the old information? archive.org doesn't have anything.
[03:11] <kanzie> auTONYmous, why do I get the feeling Im not on the right track here ;-)
[03:11] <Flannel> draeath: it is a wiki afterall, view one of the older pages
[03:11] <jerp_> Gators baby, yeah!!!!!!
[03:11] <auTONYmous> kanzie: I know it sounds like lots of probs...but I asked the wrong question. I know you're running an AMD64, but are you in 64-bit mode or 32-bit?
[03:11] <gili> question about remote desktop in edgy: how does a win xp machnie connect...MUST i use vnc or can use the xp native remote desktop
[03:11] <draeath> Flannel, how?
[03:11] <_3fg> Now I can get video playing, but it says it's missing the mp3 codec to play the file
[03:11] <Flannel> draeath: looks like they just split it up into multiple pages, all the information is around in the wiki still.
[03:11] <tempy> borg:  sorry, tired, I think that is it slower because it is emulated
[03:12] <Flannel> draeath: top of the page, "page history"
[03:12] <variant> gili: you can use xrdp (x remote desktop) never tried itthough
[03:12] <_3fg> and it's flashing every frame
[03:12] <kanzie> auTONYmous,  hmm... I have done anything specific to end up in either... I inserted the cd and pressed install
[03:12] <tempy> borg:  not that your host is linux based
[03:12] <kanzie> =)
[03:12] <Borzen> Can anyone help me with a Live CD lockup for 64
[03:12] <tempy> gtg
[03:12] <auTONYmous> IntuitiveNipple: What I've gotten is that while the Windows drivers are happy to use the BIOS setup fakeraid partitions, Linux prefers to look directly at the disk controllers (and subsequently see the disks separate). Since Windows has created its own setup, Linux ignores it, and the drivers aren't written to recognize it.
[03:12] <variant> gili: it looks quite nice
[03:13] <kanzie> auTONYmous, But it feels like a shame not running 64-bit if that isnt a problem for compatibility of a average desktop-user like me?
[03:13] <compsman> variant, THANK YOU SO MUCH:)
[03:13] <draeath> Flannel, i don't see it.
[03:13] <auTONYmous> kanzie: then you should be in 32-bit mode. The 64-bit thing is moot
[03:13] <bds> Mikey: Is it listed in 'ifconfig' or 'iwconfig'
[03:13] <variant> compsman: what for?
[03:13] <tarnold8595> i am having trouble with a wireless card on Ubuntu; it has worked in the past, and I believe it is still recognized, as it is shown as a device in Networking, but when it is enabled I can't seem to browse wireless networks that should be in range
[03:13] <compsman> swap
[03:13] <draeath> Flannel, i have 'log in to edit' and UserDocumentation
[03:13] <auTONYmous> kanzie: Oh, 64-bit is a HUGE compatibility problem for desktop users right now
[03:13] <variant> compsman: np :)
[03:13] <Flannel> draeath: ah, maybe the history is only visible to people logged in
[03:13] <Flannel> draeath: try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats?action=info
[03:13] <IntuitiveNipple> auTONYmous: not quiet - the RAIDs have metadata stored on them - both the windows drivers and the linux drivers use that to mount the volumes.
[03:13] <compsman> Swap:      4313444          0    4313444   now its there:P
[03:14] <kanzie> auTONYmous, then 32-bit it is =) I have searched synaptic for kernel-source, and the list provides several alternatives... is it the kernel-tree-2.4.27?
[03:14] <gili> variant: thanks...i want to connect from my office to home
[03:14] <auTONYmous> IntuitiveNipple: then, our cases are a little different. Mine won't see the metadata or the Windows partitions at all (promise fasttrack 378)
[03:14] <Flannel> !kernel | kanzie
[03:14] <ubotu> kanzie: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[03:14] <variant> gili: yeah, on gnu/linux there is rdesktop client or xrdp server for RDP protocal
[03:14] <genius314> Ok, can someone help me set up my USB. When I plug my wireless LAN card into a different port, it stops working. I want to switch hubs, but it wont let me plug the wireless card into any other ports.
[03:14] <IntuitiveNipple> auTONYmous: I've got my Promise FastTrak's mounted on Linux without any problems at all, with full read-write using ntfs-3g, but GRUB is having problems writing stage 2
[03:14] <gili> office has an xp pro machine...i want to connecto to my ubuntu here at home
[03:15] <IntuitiveNipple> auTONYmous: let me do some googling to understand the differences
[03:15] <auTONYmous> IntuitiveNipple: then you are definitely ahead of me.
[03:15] <Mikey> bds: it isnt listed in ifconfig, but it is listed with iwconfig, as sit0 and says no wireless extensions
[03:15] <variant> gili: you might want to try tunneling whatever method of connection you use over ssh, make it a little secure
[03:15] <IntuitiveNipple> auTONYmous: what RAID level is it currently configured with? I'm using RAID 1+0
[03:15] <compsman> gili use putty
[03:15] <auTONYmous> RAID 1
[03:15] <kanzie> auTONYmous, should I just revert all I have done, or proceed with compiling the fuse-thingie... Im not compiling a new kernel am I, just a module for kernel-plugin?
[03:16] <variant> gili: but yeah, you really don't need to use a graphical interface remotely with gnu/linux
[03:16] <variant> gili: ssh
[03:16] <bds> Mikey: brb, phone
[03:16] <auTONYmous> kanzie: yeah, just a new module...but if you are all updated, and using Flomertens debs, it _should_ work fine.
[03:16] <compsman> gili: thats putty that does ssh
[03:16] <auTONYmous> kanzie: the default kernel has fuse built in.
[03:16] <draeath> Flannel, shows me revisions but not the history. Hmm, i enabled JavaScript and it seems to have some subpages (RestrictedFormats/MP3 for instance)
[03:16] <genius314> Why does my wireless card only work in a certain USB port?
[03:16] <draeath> Flannel, still, some of the information is gone
[03:17] <IntuitiveNipple> auTONYmous: According to something I've just read, you *should* be able to use the Linux FastTrak TX4000 drivers
[03:17] <Mikey> bds: i think ive got it to list with ifconfig as well, by using some switch, i cant remember, possibly -v?
[03:17] <gili> right
[03:17] <gili> ok thanks
[03:17] <Flannel> draeath: revisions are the history.  Just grab an older revision of the page, and you'll view it as if that were the current one
[03:17] <kanzie> auTONYmous, so where do I go from here you reckon?
[03:17] <auTONYmous> IntuitiveNipple: REALLY? That's worth a try
[03:17] <gili> so you are sayinng that remote desktop in windows will not connect to ubuntu....!!!
[03:17] <Silver_Seagull> AAAAGH >_<
[03:17] <gili> ?
[03:17] <compsman> gili; i never tryed that
[03:17] <IntuitiveNipple> auTONYmous: read this as a starter. I know its oldish, but check for updates etc: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=258564
[03:17] <auTONYmous> kanzie: I'm at a loss. Revert, test that "normal" ntfs read-only mount works, then start over
[03:18] <Flannel> gili: you can, using... um.  rdesktop, I believe.
[03:18] <Silver_Seagull> Can anyone PLEASE shed some light on why a perfectly good install won't install?  I just sits at "Installing System: 0%" for 3 mins then exits.
[03:18] <Flannel> Silver_Seagull: you checked the disk?
[03:18] <kanzie> auTONYmous, it does
[03:18] <kitche> gili: you need to use freenx or xrdp since Windows Remote Desktop uses rdp protocoal and both of them use rdp
[03:19] <Silver_Seagull> Flannel: I have- Knoppix has no issue with installing- I've been down the "dead disk" road- the CD is good too.
[03:19] <genius314> I really need to know why my wireless card only works in a certain USB port.
[03:19] <Mikey> bds: it lists in ifconfig -a, take you time bds, so far your the only one helping, so i havent got the guts to object =)
[03:19] <magic_ninja> if i enable backports should i disable the other repos
[03:19] <draeath> Flannel, thank you!
[03:19] <auTONYmous> IntuitiveNipple: so, using THAT driver, combined with installing dmraid to the LiveCD, should get me a dual-boot?
[03:19] <Flannel> Silver_Seagull: You checked the CD, with the on CD check thing?  If you're just trying to install, I suggest the alternate CD anyway.  No reason to go through the liveCD baggage just to install a system.
[03:20] <gili> ok thanks all
[03:20] <IntuitiveNipple> auTONYmous: not sure right now. dmraid supports the devices without anything else needed. Thats what I use, and its supposed to support all FastTrak devices
[03:20] <Mikey> Flannel: you know i wish they would put that on the site when you download
[03:20] <Silver_Seagull> Flannel: ... /cry  moar downloading?
[03:20] <metal03> Anyone knows how to play .rmvb files?
[03:20] <jrib> magic_ninja: what other repos?
[03:21] <IntuitiveNipple> auTONYmous: the dmraid package I use is called: dmraid_0.9.9+1.0.0.rc9-2ubuntu1_i386.deb
[03:21] <auTONYmous> IntuitiveNipple: but that's where I've had issues, since the LiveCD with dmraid wanted to create a new fakeraid set and destry the existing partition layout
[03:21] <magic_ninja> you have the normal edgy repos, then backports
[03:21] <IntuitiveNipple> I tried the RC13 version mentioned in Launchpad but that fails to activate the RAID sets
[03:21] <magic_ninja> to use backports should i disable the normal ones?
[03:21] <magic_ninja> evilgold: hello
[03:21] <jrib> magic_ninja: no
[03:21] <auTONYmous> IntuitiveNipple: noted. I'll give the RC9 a try and get back to you
[03:21] <magic_ninja> evilgold: didn't know you use ububuntu
[03:22] <IntuitiveNipple> auTONYmous: after installing the dmraid dev package, did you just do dmraid -s and dmraid -r to see what it finds?
[03:22] <evilgold> magic_ninja, yeah since hoary
[03:22] <auTONYmous> IntuitiveNipple: (but its a moot point, since that's my Vista Ultimate box doing Media Center duties for the Xbox360...not willing to lose that for Linux just yet)] \
[03:22] <IntuitiveNipple> If it can, it'll auto-activate the sets when you install dmraid. But you can try dmraid -ay to do it manually
[03:22] <magic_ninja> evilgold: thats when i dropped drake for it too
[03:22] <Squee-D> I want to image my ubuntu install, and use an ubuntu on cd installer to reimage a drive with it in case of catastrophic failure.. is there a technical name for this kind of solution and a project for it ? :)
[03:23] <overridex> is there a way to have network-manager setup a wireless connection before logging in? (as part of the boot process)
[03:23] <IntuitiveNipple> Linux still has a long way to go to challenge Windows, but i think issues surrounding Vista will spur people to move.
[03:23] <Silver_Seagull> metal03: It's a realmedia format
[03:23] <verdRousseau> if I dont use KDE is there any advantages of leaving it on my system
[03:23] <bruenig> nobody will move
[03:23] <linuxgoober> I'm thinking of purchasing a pentium d 805 is overclocking in linux any harder?
[03:23] <Silver_Seagull> metal03: You can play it with Real Alternative
[03:24] <IntuitiveNipple> Linux as a server is fine - its the consumer version that needs a big push in terms of supporting hardware devices
[03:24] <evilgold> magic_ninja, I try other distros on my various other pcs, but for my main one i keep going to ubuntu
[03:24] <auTONYmous> IntuitiveNipple: as soon as the 360 hacking picks up (and something like Xbox Media Center for 360 comes out), I'll ditch Vista
[03:24] <IntuitiveNipple> yeah - I'm moving all my servers workstations notebooks and tablets to Edgy rather than move to Vista.
[03:24] <auTONYmous> IntuitiveNipple: But I'm glad you gave me some much-needed info on the dmraid probs. Thanks!
[03:24] <mon^rch> ty to whoever put up the grub info... super grub disk worked like a charm :-)
[03:24] <variant> overridex: would be nice wouldn't it
[03:25] <magic_ninja> evilgold: i just like the look, and feel of ubuntu, its the best dist i've tried
[03:25] <overridex> variant:  :)
[03:25] <magic_ninja> evilgold: slackware was probably the worst
[03:25] <mon^rch> got my linux install back !!! :-)
[03:25] <bds> Mikey: I have not come across a device named sit0, but it appears to have something to do with IPv6?
[03:25] <variant> please, this vista talk is hurting my teeth
[03:25] <magic_ninja> evilgold: i havn't tried mandriva, but i know mandrake was SOOOO bloated and ran SOOO slow no matter how many or few packages i installed
[03:25] <Tree> Excuse me, i need some help on ubuntu.When i login with my account it says $home cannot be written and is not owned by me and should be.Anyone know how i can fix it?
[03:26] <variant> magic_ninja: slack pwns
[03:26] <evilgold> magic_ninja, I havnt gotten much into slackware, but i think the worst one i tried was Xandros
[03:26] <Tree> Excuse me, i need some help on ubuntu.When i login with my account it says $home cannot be written and is not owned by me and should be.Anyone know how i can fix it?
[03:26] <magic_ninja> Tree: chown -R <username>:<username> /home/username
[03:26] <Mikey> bds: it lists in ifconfig -a, and no, it isnt an IPV6, or anything to do with it, in fact, i dont think sit0 is RT2500 at all
[03:26] <Tree> thanks
[03:26] <hou5ton> I'm trying to get the Merriam-Webster online dictionary pronunciation feature to work on Edgy with FireFox.  I have javascript enabled, but still no sound. All other sound is working. Go here and see if the pronunciation of Hippocrates works for you, and then please tell me how to make it work for me. http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/hippocrates
[03:26] <bruenig> Tree, when you get into the login screen press ctrl + alt + f1, then run sudo chown -R username:username /home/username
[03:26] <variant> Tree: stop spamming please, you need to fix the permissions on your /home/username directory
[03:26] <magic_ninja> variant: what package manager was slackware anyway....i was a newbie when i used it
[03:26] <variant> bruenig: no, thats a bad idea
[03:27] <draeath> Arg! What is MikeMaccana's problem? he messed that wiki page all up!
[03:27] <bruenig> variant, worked for me twice before
[03:27] <bds> can you paste the output of ifconfig -a here
[03:27] <auTONYmous> it's slapt-get now, right?
[03:27] <bds> !paste | Mikey
[03:27] <variant> bruenig: yes, it is still a very bad idea
[03:27] <ubotu> Mikey: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[03:27] <bruenig> are there any files not owned by user in ~
[03:27] <Mikey> i cant because its on a different machine, but i can trpe it in if you want
[03:28] <bds> Mikey: Nevermind :)
[03:28] <Mikey> bds: btw this is the output of lshw http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/896/
[03:28] <metal03> Silver_Seagull : I have Real player...  but what is Real Alternative?
[03:28] <variant> bruenig: not by default
[03:28] <bds> magic_ninja: I use swaret as a package manager for slackware
[03:28] <pianoboy3333> Is there a reason flash on linux -- the audio goes out of sync?
[03:28] <overridex> pianoboy3333: yes, flash 9 beta
[03:28] <bruenig> pianoboy3333, are you using flash 7?
[03:29] <overridex> pianoboy3333: err.. fixes that :)
[03:29] <magic_ninja> now...whwat i says saying
[03:29] <pianoboy3333> no, 9 beta 2
[03:29] <auTONYmous> keyword: beta...
[03:29] <pianoboy3333> overridex: I'm on 9 beta 2
[03:29] <overridex> pianoboy3333: odd
[03:29] <jrib> pianoboy3333: yes, because it's flash
[03:29] <pianoboy3333> jrib: ...
[03:29] <magic_ninja> do update my graphics card drivers from backports i just apt-get nvidia-glx because the auto update won't do it right?
[03:29] <overridex> audio's been pretty well synced for me in 9
[03:29] <MarcC-Li> anybody know how to center the bootsplash when it's off-center?
[03:29] <overridex> unless it's using esd or something
[03:29] <jrib> pianoboy3333: it's true, what kind of specs do you have?
[03:30] <IntuitiveNipple> hou5ton: You'd need a mime-type for .wave files and a plugin to play them in your browser
[03:30] <timmy> I am having trouble with a wireless network in Ubuntu. It seems to be unable to connect to a wireless network that I know works with other computers (from an Airport Base Station). Also, the wireless card in the Ubuntu desktop works fine, apparently, as it can connect to other wireless networks. Can anyone help?
[03:30] <variant> i really really love the disk usage analyser
[03:30] <magic_ninja> brb
[03:30] <stuffzman> Hi.  I'm not new to linux, and  I just installed 6.10, and I got sound juicer working with lame for mp3 ripping.  I'd like to know how can I get vbr instead of cbr.  I have it currently doing cbr at 192kbps.    with this line "audio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! lame name=enc bitrate=192 ! id3v2mux"    I'm trying to understand the lame presets like 1001 and 1002. Any pointers would be great!
[03:30] <pianoboy3333> jrib: what do you mean specs....? pentium 4 3 ghz, 1 gig of ram.... good logitech speakers, and a 19" monitor...
[03:30] <bds> Mikey: Searching some things on google
[03:31] <IntuitiveNipple> timmy: what encryption is in use on the network? some wireless drivers in Linux support WEP but not WPA
[03:31] <hou5ton> IntuitiveNipple:   how do I check for those things ... or make sure they are added?
[03:31] <genius314> Does anyone have a wireless card that plugs into the USB?
[03:31] <timmy> IntuitiveNipple: Well, I thought that might be an issue, so I turned the encryption off (though it was WPA), and I still can't get on the unsecured network
[03:31] <IntuitiveNipple> hou5ton: I've never done it myself, but I'd guess it ought be possible. What browser are you using?
[03:31] <jrib> pianoboy3333: that's what I meant
[03:32] <auTONYmous> timmy: are you broadcasting the SSID?
[03:32] <Mikey> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/898/
[03:32] <pianoboy3333> jrib: I think that's enough to run flash :)
[03:32] <IntuitiveNipple> timmy - does the network have MAC address authentication? thats caught me out before!
[03:32] <stuffzman> i have found that wpa and usb + linux = very difficult unless you have the right driver + ndiswrapper or a good chipset that linux likes...
[03:32] <hou5ton> IntuitiveNipple:   FireFox 2.0.0.1
[03:32] <jrib> pianoboy3333: flash requires 512mb ram and 128mb video memory which i think is ridiculous
[03:32] <timmy> auTONYmous: I think so, but I don't know (or how to check).
[03:32] <IntuitiveNipple> hou5ton: let me google it for you
[03:32] <Mikey> bds: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/898/
[03:32] <stuffzman> anyone have a good definitive place for sound juicer + mp3 + vbr ?
[03:33] <bds> Mikey: So it does not appear to recognize your card at all?
[03:33] <genius314> Hey can anyone help me with USB? I have a wireless card that plugs into a USB port, but when i plug it into a different port, it stops working. This is a problem, since I want to change from a 1.1 hub to a 2.0 hub. Can anyone help me configure it so that it can be read from a different port?
[03:33] <timmy> IntuitiveNipple: that's a good point. I know a little about that but not a lot. How could I find out if that's the problem & fix it?
[03:34] <Mikey> bds: but it is shown in device manager, and by lshw =S
[03:34] <IntuitiveNipple> hou5ton: Try reading this: http://www.elijahlofgren.com/linux/ubuntu/multimedia/#mplayer-plugin
[03:34] <Rookie-1> !anjuta
[03:34] <ubotu> anjuta: A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.2-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1494 kB, installed size 3760 kB
[03:34] <Vuen> hey guys
[03:34] <auTONYmous> IntuitiveNipple: MAC authentication a problem? Not for me, could be AP-specific
[03:34] <bayzider1> Does any one know how i can change my mac addy>
[03:34] <bds> Mikey: try 'sudo modprobe rt2500'
[03:34] <IntuitiveNipple> timmy: check in the Access Point's management interface for MAC-based security settings
[03:34] <Vuen> i had an extra monitor lying around, so i just set up multiple monitors with xinerama on my ubuntu
[03:34] <Vuen> which was a huge pain to set up, but it seems to work now
[03:34] <auTONYmous> IntuitiveNipple: Oh, wait...I just realized what you meant. DOH!
[03:35] <IntuitiveNipple> lol
[03:35] <Vuen> so far, i'm underwhelmed. full-screen games entirely crash the X server when they try to run, and the whole thing just seems really sluggish
[03:35] <Mikey> bds: no output, at all
[03:35] <IntuitiveNipple> I know - this damned room-only chat with multiple conversations is like the Tower Of Babel
[03:35] <Vuen> it seems to not want to repaint windows, and when it does it's very slow...
[03:35] <Vuen> is this normal?
[03:35] <Vuen> is xinerama supposed to be this slow?
[03:35] <bds> Mikey: now try lsmod
[03:35] <overridex> Vuen: what video card?
[03:36] <Vuen> overridex: geforce 6600
[03:36] <verdRousseau> if I dont use KDE is there any benefit of having it on my comp?
[03:36] <overridex> Vuen: then no, it definitely shouldn't be like that :)
[03:36] <Mikey> bds: use by 0
[03:36] <overridex> Vuen: use "twinview" in nvidia's drivers to setup dual monitors
[03:36] <Silver_Seagull> metal03: sorry- went to get a drink.  Real Alternative is a set of codecs for Media Player Classic that remove the need to have Real Player and its associated junk installed on your system.  Lighter on resources too.
[03:36] <auTONYmous> verdRousseau: not really, besides still using QT apps...
[03:36] <genius314> Someone help, please?!!
[03:36] <Vuen> overridex: alright
[03:36] <IntuitiveNipple> hou5ton: Check this project out http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/
[03:36] <kauer> sorry, just using you all to test gaim :-)
[03:36] <bds> Mikey: hrm
[03:36] <overridex> Vuen: i was able to play world of warcraft on one full screen monitor and play a dvd on the other without a problem when i used twinview...
[03:37] <overridex> hou5ton: mplayerplug-in is in ubuntu, it's called mozilla-mplayer in multiverse or universe
[03:37] <overridex> kauer: i feel cheap and dirty
[03:37] <Vuen> overridex: wow. yeah, i want that
[03:37] <genius314> Does anyone know why my USB wireless card can only be plugged into a certain port, and how to change this?
[03:37] <kauer> hah, YOU feel cheap and dirty. I'm doing it with 931 people!
[03:37] <overridex> Vuen: i was using a gf 5900 at the time
[03:37] <Vuen> overridex: are you still using twinview? if so, can you pastebin your xorg.conf for me, pretty please? :)
[03:37] <overridex> kauer: haha
[03:38] <overridex> Vuen: i'm not or a i would... i got a nice widescreen lcd and need to get another :)
[03:38] <hou5ton> overridex:   yes ... I have it installed
[03:38] <timmy> IntuitiveNipple: The only MAC-based security is disabled. Any other ideas? (Could it be that this particular AP automatically chooses channels rather than staying on one?)
[03:39] <bayzider1>  any one
[03:39] <genius314> Please?
[03:39] <overridex> IntuitiveNipple: that's a hilarious nick btw
[03:39] <IntuitiveNipple> timmy: with a n infrastructure network (that is, in Access Point mode) the AP is on a fixed channel and the clients find it
[03:39] <kauer> genius, what was the question?
[03:39] <overridex> bayzider1: man ifconfig
[03:39] <Silver_Seagull> bayzider1: You can spoof a MAC address, but a MAC address is assigned to each piece of hardware.
[03:40] <genius314> kauer: I'm trying to configure my USB. I have a USB wireless card, but it only works in a certain port.
[03:40] <bds> Mikey: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[03:40] <Mikey> bds: thing is tho, it detected the ra0 when i was installing ubuntu, but then froze, and next time i run it, it didnt detect it,
[03:40] <Mikey> bds: newest one 6.10
[03:40] <IntuitiveNipple> timmy: the only thing I can think is that the AP is on a channel above the range the client can search. For example, the AP on 13 and the client limited to 11 - this happens because of different legal restrictions, so the US has 11 channels, Europe 12, Japan 13
[03:40] <metal03> Silver_Seagull : Could you help me install this Real alternate thing?
[03:40] <Rookie-1> Silver_Seagull - you can edit the mac addy in some of the cards
[03:40] <PeTaZeTa> ?
[03:40] <IntuitiveNipple> overridex: re my nick, thanks ... its from a saying
[03:40] <Vuen> overridex: alright, i set up twinview, restarting X. wish me luck...
[03:40] <variant> overridex: actualy that would be ethtool
[03:41] <variant> bayzider1: apt-get install ethtool && man ethtool
[03:41] <Silver_Seagull> Rookie-1: News to me :)
[03:41] <overridex> Vuen: good luck
[03:41] <kauer> genius314: Hm, well, I can't help you there. Does it still only work from a certain port after a full powercycle (laptop OFF)?
[03:41] <bds> Mikey: try 'sudo ifdown ra0 && sudo ifup ra0 && ifconfig -a'
[03:41] <timmy> IntuitiveNipple: also--and I don't know if this is related or not--when entering an SSID, I seem to be unable to browse networks (I thought I remembered having that ability at one point, but my memory may be flawed). Is this normal?
[03:42] <Silver_Seagull> metal03: Are you on Windows or Ubuntu right now?  Windows I could walk you through- I've never used it on Ubuntu before though (as you may be able to tell, having issues getting it installing :p)
[03:42] <genius314> kauer: Yeah, it still doesn't work. Its a problem, because I want to change hubs.
[03:42] <Tree> Well i'm still having errors
[03:42] <d7thstring> can someone help me with my tvtuner and mythtv
[03:42] <Tree> it says i dont own $home
[03:42] <Tree> and etc is a software error or something
[03:42] <IntuitiveNipple> timmy: some drivers require you to enter the SSID... I think Windows spoils us sometimes into have massive expectations of everything in the 'free'dom world
[03:42] <metal03> Silver_Seagull : I wouldn't need help on windows...  but I'm on Ubuntu...  been using it for a day now...  and I love it...!!
[03:43] <kauer> genius314: Which port is it? Does it work e.g. in the port you have the hub attached to?
[03:43] <Flannel> Silver_Seagull: if it makes you feel better, you'd need to download a good deal of the packages anyway, that is, the updated ones.  If you want, you can use the minimal installer (8.something MB) to install, it does the same thign the alternate does, but downloads new versions of everything as part of installation.  Nice if you have slow but reliable bandwidth, but not so if you plan on reinstalling a few times (since oyu'd have to downl
[03:43] <Mikey> bds: ifdown: interface ra0 not configured, next line: ignoring unknown interface ra0=ra0, then spits out ifconfig -a
[03:44] <Flannel>   Silver_Seagull https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD is the link to that
[03:44] <Mikey> bds: nothing new in ifconfig -a btw, same old local loopback and a sit0
[03:44] <timmy> IntuitiveNipple: thanks; one last question, do you know how I could reset or restart the preferences associated with the network settings (if there are any)?
[03:44] <genius314> kauer: I don't know. But it only works when its plugged into the extention-cord/stand thing that came with it. If I just plug the card right into the hub, it doesn't work either. And none of the other hub ports work.
[03:45] <IntuitiveNipple> in Linux? there should be an ifup and ifdown script for each device in /etc/network
[03:45] <Vuen> hm.
[03:45] <auTONYmous> genius314: is it a powered hub?
[03:45] <Vuen> this works, except my windows maximize across both screens
[03:45] <timmy> IntuitiveNipple: what are those?
[03:46] <timmy> (yes, in Linux)
[03:46] <IntuitiveNipple> timmy: I forget now, but thats how the network interfaces are started and stopped. load them into a text editor to see what they do
[03:46] <genius314> auTONYmous: No. I think theres a port in the back for a power cord, but I haven't needed one so far. The new hub is 2.0, and it came with a power cord. I'm not sure if it needs it, though.
[03:46] <timmy> IntuitiveNipple: ok, thanks
[03:47] <verdRousseau> whats a good torrent downloader
[03:47] <auTONYmous> genius314: try plugging in the 2.0 hub (the power cord, that it). USB has _some_ power to all devices, but the wireless adapter may need more than the USB bus provides without an external power adapter on the hub
[03:47] <IntuitiveNipple> Vuen: I configured xinimera last night and have it working perfectly on a Matrox G450
[03:48] <Vuen> IntuitiveNipple: are you using twinview?
[03:48] <IntuitiveNipple> no, i chose ximinera (if thats how you spell it!)
[03:48] <kauer> genius314: I'm having trouble visualising this. You have a USB port on your laptop (or desktop?). You have a hub plugged into that. You have an "extension cord/stand" that you plug into port X on the hub. Then you plug the USB wireless card into the "extension cord/stand". Does the card itself have a USB plug? I mean, *can* it be plugged directly into your computer? (this is BTW going the same way as auTONYmous - I want to make sure the 
[03:49] <genius314> auTONYmous: I've already tried combinations (with power, without, etc), and nothing works. Even if I use the same hub, but a different port on the hub, the card won't work. I'm guessing its some sort of configuration problem, not the hub itself.
[03:49] <elyon225> Is there any way to run a file as super user from within gnome (without using the terminal)?
[03:49] <bds> Mikey: I am sorry but I don't think I have any more suggestions perhaps there is someone else here that can help with your wireless adapter?
[03:49] <Silver_Seagull> Flannel: Thanks :)
[03:49] <Vuen> IntuitiveNipple: hmm. i used xinerama instead of twinview also, except it's really slow
[03:49] <bds> Can someone help Mikey configure a mini-pci wireless adapter?
[03:49] <bds> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/896/
[03:49] <Vuen> IntuitiveNipple: dragging windows from one screen to another has serious framerate issues, and sometimes windows don't get repainted at all
[03:50] <IntuitiveNipple> Vuen: I used the Xinerama info in the forums howto http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[03:51] <auTONYmous> genius314: Sorry, maybe someone else can help
[03:51] <genius314> kauer: http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=179211 That's the card. The stand is optional, but it still wont work without it for some reason. Also, I'm using a desktop.
[03:51] <IntuitiveNipple> Vuen: are you using a single adaptor with dualhead, or two adapters?
[03:51] <genius314> auTONYmous: Okay.
[03:51] <Tamacracker> Someone gave me this link: to install my belkin wireless usb adapter, i followed it but the wireless usb stick is not blinkin
[03:51] <Mikey> bds: do you have any idea what it could be linnked to? shall i try reintalling ubuntu?
[03:51] <Tamacracker> http://czarism.com/easy-peasy-wireless-w-ubuntu-debian-linux
[03:53] <cilkay> Hello. I'd like to switch the keyboard to French. I've installed the French locale and have restarted X and logged in with the French locale for this session. I can see all the menus are in French but I still only have one choice of keyboards in the Keyboard Layout Switcher applet. How do I add another language to the applet?
[03:53] <bds> Mikey: I am not sure a reinstall is necessary, there are usually a few folks in here that are good at helping with wireless in here, but they seem to be absent at the moment :(
[03:53] <auTONYmous> I will say this: I have built-in wireless in my laptop, with a button to activate/deactivate it. Network Manager was the only way to get it to activate and configure reliably using the button. Maybe you'll have more luck with USB devices that change their USB port using Network Manager
[03:53] <Tamacracker> I have Kubuntu though
[03:53] <Tamacracker> Would it be Network Settings?
[03:53] <bds> Mikey: Or just busy ;)
[03:54] <Tree> Alright guys, linux still says i don't own $home and must cmod it 664.What do i do?
[03:54] <pchilds> Can someone tell me how to upgrade to edgy that will still work after you boot?  I have tried every which way I know and still when you reboot it it never finishes loading or is this something I should just wait a while on
[03:54] <Mikey> bds: thanks for your help, its much apretiated, i will come come back tomorrow morning :)
[03:54] <auTONYmous> Tamacracker: I think NM has a KDE applet
[03:54] <justin_> Can I get synaptic to install programs to a mounted disk, rather then the default mount?
[03:54] <bds> Mikey: Good luck :)
[03:54] <Tree> Alright guys, linux still says i don't own $home and must cmod it 664.What do i do?
[03:54] <Flannel> !upgrade | pchilds
[03:54] <ubotu> pchilds: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:55] <justin_> Tree, chmod 664 /dir/dir
[03:55] <Mikey> bye bye everyone, have a fun night ;)
[03:55] <kauer> genius314: I think the stand is just to give the antenna a good position. I am starting to suspect a physical problem with the contacts in the wireless stick and/or the hub, probably related to power. Do you have another USB extension cable you could use? Or another laptop you could try the thing on?
[03:55] <Tree> ho would i do it?
[03:55] <justin_> Tree, ...
[03:55] <kitche> Tree: /home or /home/user?
[03:55] <Vuen> IntuitiveNipple: a single adapter with dual head
[03:55] <justin_> sudo chmod 664 /home/user
[03:55] <justin_> sudo chmod 664 /home
[03:55] <justin_> Both
[03:55] <Tree> thankyou.
[03:55] <justin_> yup.
[03:55] <justin_> your welcome
[03:56] <jmdc> is source code (or a package a can apt-get) available for malone (ubuntu's bug-tracker)
[03:56] <cilkay> Tree: chmod doesn't change ownership. It changes permissions. chown is what you're looking for.
[03:56] <Tree> "sudo chmod 664 /home"
[03:56] <kitche> You shouldn't be chmoding /home
[03:56] <justin_> kitche, Reason
[03:56] <IntuitiveNipple> Vuen: since you mentions TwinView i assume its nVidia?
[03:56] <compsman> xmms with win32codecs
[03:56] <compsman> ?
[03:56] <justin_> or sudo chown you you:folder
[03:56] <justin_> whatever one
[03:57] <Tree> sudo: /etc/sudoers is owned by uid 1000, should be 0
[03:57] <Tree> i get that error
[03:57] <genius314> kauer: I know what the stand is for. It won't work without it, though, for some reason (I think it did in Windows). I could try a bunch of different combinations. But I've plugged the card into different ports on the hub, different ports in the back of the PC, and nothing works.
[03:57] <justin_> Tree, What version of Ubuntu are you on?
[03:57] <pchilds> Gee thanks I already tried installing that way from the upgrade notes but still it only works until you reboot. Then it never loads. Who knows.
[03:57] <Tree> the one before the current.
[03:57] <justin_> Tree, .. sudo -H -s to root.
[03:58] <justin_> Go into /etc and look at your sudoers file.
[03:58] <eimajenthat> What's the difference, as far as performance, of downloading  something, like a linux ISO, from an HTTP server, vs an FTP server?
[03:58] <cilkay> How do I add another language to Keyboard Layout Switcher?
[03:58] <IntuitiveNipple> eimajenthat: none at all
[03:58] <justin_> eimajenthat, FTP's are dedicated to file service.
[03:58] <justin_> Http's sometimes experience more traffic then the FTP, that's about it.. but usually there is no real difference and sometimes HTTP is by far the speedier of the two.
[03:59] <IntuitiveNipple> eimajenthat: HTTP can go through firewalls and proxies that FTP sometimes can't
[03:59] <auTONYmous> and FTP's tend to be more often per-connection bandwidth limited, where http servers usually aren't
[03:59] <draeath> anyone know how to get the same stuff dmesg puts out, put in a terminal session in realtime?
[04:00] <Tree> same error
[04:00] <Vuen> IntuitiveNipple: yes
[04:00] <IntuitiveNipple> oooo get us, all this protocol knowledge :D
[04:00] <IntuitiveNipple> Vuen: I don't have any experience with nVidia and dual monitors, sorry.
[04:00] <eimajenthat> IntuitiveNipple and justin_, cool cool.  But there's essentially no badwidth cap, right?  Let's say I'm transferring a file between two machines on my home network, 100Mbit ethernet.  I should get the same transfer rate regarrdless of whether I use HTTP, FTP, NFS, or Samba?
[04:00] <jerp_> Gators baby, yeah!!!!!!
[04:00] <pigwrangler> how do i reconfigure x to choose which device to use such as intel915 rather then vesa
[04:00] <mag_> how can I login using windows XP home to samba ? ;( help me please  !
[04:00] <justin_> eimajenthat, Depends on the speed of the server, but usually I would go with HTTP.
[04:00] <keithg> So guys, is there a way to restore the startup script?  (Or whatever that is called, bear with me.) I installed Slackware on a seperate hard drive, and I have no clue how that could have tampered with that, but it logs me into a root account while its booting, and I have to type "exit" to get it to continue.
[04:01] <auTONYmous> eimajenthat: default config, your own server, no you shouldn't
[04:01] <IntuitiveNipple> eimajenthat: Assuming the route isn't limited or having problems, yes
[04:01] <justin_> But from network to network, no no difference.
[04:01] <jerp_> buckeyes denied a first down, fourth and less than one
[04:01] <foo> er, I installed edgy.. and man.. scrolling down a page in firefox really lags. I think I need the video drivers, lame. I don't remember doing this with dapper, I don't think. I have a ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY. Any ideas?
[04:01] <auTONYmous> jerp_: SAW THAT!!!
[04:01] <Algorithmist> how would I install firefox 2 from the command line?
[04:01] <eimajenthat> IntuitiveNipple and justin_, so, if the route's limited or having problems, one of those protocols might correct better?
[04:01] <riotkittie> football. ugh. the only thing on the planet that confuses me more than linux
[04:02] <Tamacracker> Guys when I type this command: sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces  I get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/902/
[04:02] <justin_> eimajenthat, Yeah.
[04:02] <eimajenthat> IntuitiveNipple and justin_, which one?
[04:02] <bruenig> Algorithmist, there are scripts you can use on the forums
[04:02] <justin_> eimajenthat, FTP.
[04:02] <variant> Algorithmist: edgy comes with fx2, what version of ubuntu you using?
[04:02] <IntuitiveNipple> eimajenthat: sometimes any protocol that does repeated DNS lookups rather than caching the IP can be slowed down by DNS issues
[04:02] <Tree> Well this is officially stuffed.
[04:03] <auTONYmous> tree: is this a new install, an upgrade, or something else?
[04:03] <bruenig> Algorithmist, essentially, you wget the .tar.gz, you untar it and put it in /opt, then link over the /usr/bin/firefox symlink and all the plugins
[04:03] <kyncani> !ati >foo
[04:03] <IntuitiveNipple> Also, HTTP can recover broken downloads better than many FTP servers that don't support resume
[04:03] <kauer> genius314: if the problem is an electrical contact in the stick, it could be that you need the stand to make proper contact with the stick. If the cable has a bad electrical contact, it may only work in one port, that happens to make good contact. You should therefore try using another extension cable. You could also see if it still works - in other ports - under Windows. If it does, then what we have here is a software problem, not a ha
[04:03] <compsman> i need mp3 wma for xmms
[04:03] <Flannel> Tamacracker: are you editing it somewhere else?  if not, follow the instructions in step 2
[04:03] <Tamacracker> ok..
[04:03] <variant> compsman: if your wma files are infected with drm you wont be able to play them. there is a program or two for removing the drm but i dont konw where to get them
[04:04] <genius314> kauer: Okay. I think it works in Windows. Then again, its been a while... I'll go check...
[04:04] <IntuitiveNipple> I prefer HTTP because you can implement logon permissions simply with the .htaccess restrictions
[04:04] <kauer> genius314: and the obvious other thing to try - another USB wireless stick! Can you just swap it at the shop?
[04:04] <I_am_hollywood> anyone know if it is possible to implement xp msstyles on wine ?
[04:04] <auTONYmous> variant: The latest Helix player supports WMA DRM...
[04:04] <justin_> variant, "Infected" with DRM?
[04:04] <jerp_> compsman, 'find' wma on this page http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[04:04] <justin_> variant, Do you not think that was a tad harsh?
[04:05] <justin_> What's a matter variant, hate freedom? :P
[04:05] <riotkittie> ahh digital (you've got no) rights management. yum yum yum.
[04:05] <variant> auTONYmous: windows media DRM? and it plays on gnu/linux with just the installation of helix player?
[04:05] <variant> justin_: wha?
[04:05] <overridex> justin_: how does drm == freedom?
[04:05] <Tamacracker> (You might want to write out this file under another name ?!
[04:05] <justin_> overridex, The freedom to make music, and sell it
[04:05] <variant> ha ha ha ha
[04:05] <Tamacracker> and run diff with the original file to check for changes)
[04:05] <Tamacracker> Delete the .swp file afterwards.
[04:05] <justin_> And in the process make sure no one steals it
[04:05] <amicrawler> why is my system so slow
[04:05] <overridex> justin_: pretty sure you can do that without drm :)
[04:05] <auTONYmous> variant: Not sure, but I read the blurbs on their site. Now, as to creating a DRM file in Winblows and playing it in Linux, jury's still out on that one.
[04:05] <amicrawler> i got a p4 1.8ghz
[04:06] <amicrawler> a nv fx7800
[04:06] <amicrawler> 256mb of video and
[04:06] <variant> auTONYmous: i would be stunned if you could play with helix player drm'd files on gnu/linux
[04:06] <amicrawler> 256mb of ram
[04:06] <amicrawler> and 160gb of drive
[04:06] <justin_> overridex, Naw - and as I can see you are en enemy of freedom.
[04:06] <amicrawler> can any body help me please
[04:06] <kauer> is there any way in IRC to filter the conversation? Not that you are not all absolutely fascinating, but it would be helpful sometimes...
[04:06] <justin_> overridex, As you can see I was being sarcastic ;)
[04:06] <eimajenthat> IntuitiveNipple: A good point.  I've been thinking about a more efficient way to manage my mp3 library.  All my music is one my wife's mac w/iTunes, so I was trying to setup the DAAP sharing, but it's not been working properly.  So I was reading about MPD, but I played with it, and it doesn't 100% work the way I'd want.
[04:07] <juano> amicrawler: motherboard?
[04:07] <amicrawler> intel
[04:07] <I_am_hollywood>  anyone know if it is possible to implement xp msstyles on wine ?
[04:07] <juano> amicrawler: FSB?
[04:07] <variant> justin_: I won't bother responding to that except with this url :http://www.defectivebydesign.org/en/node
[04:07] <Flannel> I_am_hollywood: people in #winehq might have a higher probability of knowing
[04:07] <variant> justin_: remove the ":" from the start to make it a valid url, sorry
[04:07] <I_am_hollywood> Flannel: thanks
[04:08] <overridex> justin_: ;)
[04:08] <eimajenthat> IntuitiveNipple justin_: Thanks for the info.  You've given me a lot to think about.
[04:08] <Dante123> what are minimum requirement (reasonable) for ubuntu on older hardware?
[04:08] <variant> I_am_hollywood: I think there is prelimenary work towards that end
[04:08] <justin_> variant, I was being sarcastic
[04:08] <bruenig> kauer, blocking people, generally people use your name so if you have a decent client anything addressed to you will be a different color and noticeable so that at least acts as a visual filter
[04:08] <jerp_> Gators baby, yeah!!!!!!
[04:08] <justin_> eimajenthat, No problem.
[04:08] <inveratulo> greetings chaps
[04:08] <variant> I_am_hollywood: if you run wincfg there is a themes section, but afaik it is non functional (as of about 4 months ago anyway)
[04:09] <variant> justin_: if overridex is an enemy of freedom your an enemy of sanity :P
[04:09] <amicrawler> it is intel 82850 850 Tehama chip set
[04:09] <justin_> variant, :P
[04:09] <juano> amicrawler: no idea... how slow are we talking about?
[04:10] <I_am_hollywood> variant: yeah I noticed that section but what I want to do is run msstyles so I can use custom xp skins rather than the horrid win98 look for photoshop
[04:10] <amicrawler> kde is refresh reight is slow
[04:10] <amicrawler> screens very slow draw
[04:10] <juano> amicrawler: have you tried gnome?
[04:10] <amicrawler> nope
[04:11] <I_am_hollywood> amicrawler: which grapgics car and driver are you using ?
[04:11] <jerp_> :)
[04:11] <variant> I_am_hollywood: sorry, don't know if thats possible at the momment
[04:11] <variant> I_am_hollywood: #wine as somone else mentioned
[04:11] <juano> amicrawler: did you install nvidia driver?
[04:12] <I_am_hollywood> variant: I really don't think it is but I am just curious , and yeah I am now on that cannel
[04:12] <amicrawler> yes
[04:12] <auTONYmous> GATORS SCORE AGAIN!
[04:12] <amicrawler> and enabled it to
[04:12] <juano> amicrawler: go into konsole, type glx-gears and see if they move fast
[04:13] <kauer> genius314: How'd it go?
[04:13] <amicrawler> glx
[04:13] <amicrawler> ?
[04:13] <genius314> kauer: The connection is fine in any port.
[04:13] <Flannel> !offtopic | auTONYmous
[04:13] <ubotu> auTONYmous: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:13] <amicrawler> i have nvida
[04:13] <auTONYmous> thanks, flannel
[04:13] <amicrawler> card
[04:14] <auTONYmous> I just thought Jerp_ would like to know
[04:14] <elyon225> Is there any way to run a file as super user from within gnome (without using the terminal)?
[04:14] <auTONYmous> elyon225: alt-f2
[04:14] <Flannel> auTONYmous: he may very well, but He'll need to learn of score changes in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:14] <juano> amicrawler: typ glxgears all together
[04:14] <juano> amicrawler: and check to see if it goes fast
[04:14] <amicrawler> there moving
[04:14] <kauer> genius314: well, that says it's a software problem. Something is binding the device to a particular port. what does lspci say (under Linux) about the device?
[04:14] <amicrawler> then they studder
[04:15] <juano> amicrawler: then your card is not configured properly
[04:15] <juano> amicrawler: they move very slow?
[04:15] <amicrawler> yep
[04:15] <juano> amicrawler: you didnt install nvidia drivers good then
[04:15] <amicrawler> how to config properly?
[04:15] <elyon225> auTONYmous: That still isn't SU
[04:15] <elyon225> ohhh
[04:15] <elyon225> nevermind lol
[04:15] <amicrawler> is there a how to ?
[04:16] <Flannel> elyon225: in the window, gksudo [whatever] 
[04:16] <I_am_hollywood> wouldn't amicrawler be better off using nvidia drivers ?
[04:16] <juano> amicrawler: go into console as root, type kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:16] <kauer> genius314: um, and lsusb of course
[04:16] <elyon225> Flannel: Right.  Caught that right after I said something ;)
[04:16] <genius314> kauer: Oh. That would explain why it didn't show up... XD
[04:16] <auTONYmous> elyon225: it's either use alt-f2 to gksudo <your command>, or create a Nautlius script to browse as root
[04:16] <juano> amicrawler: check in the device section and see if you can find an "nv", if thats so, change that to nvidia and restart X
[04:16] <Flannel> elyon225: there used to be (probably still is somewhere, but I wouldnt know), a "run as super user" launcher available as well
[04:16] <kauer> genius314: what is XD?
[04:17] <genius314> kauer: Bus 002 Device 004: ID 050d:705c Belkin Components
[04:17] <juano> amicrawler: that would be for Driver
[04:17] <kauer> genius314:and when you plug it in somewhere else...?
[04:17] <elyon225> auTONYmous: Hmm... I tried doing gksudo and sudo and it doesn't open the file...
[04:17] <elyon225> but if I remove the sudo, it works just fine (albeit not in su mode)
[04:17] <auTONYmous> elyon225: are you trying to gedit a file or something?
[04:17] <juano> amicrawler: if you get problems just turn it back to nv and come back
[04:18] <elyon225> auTONYmous: No... I'm trying to open an archive.
[04:18] <auTONYmous> oh, then you have to use nautilus
[04:18] <overridex> is there a way to move a partition with gparted so that it frees up some space at the start of the drive to put a /boot partition?
[04:18] <genius314> kauer: XD is a smiley. Hmm, now it seems to allow me to use it in any port. Now I really don't know what is going on.
[04:18] <auTONYmous> elyon225: (this assumes you have the scripts, which I forget where I installed this from), but...
[04:18] <amicrawler> ok  borard name is nv
[04:19] <auTONYmous> elyon225: right-click the folder containing the archive, go to "Scripts -> root nautilus here"
[04:19] <Jessehk> overridex: Couldn't you just resize the partition?
[04:19] <fiendskull9> anyone else notice the slowness in edgy repos?
[04:19] <Flannel> overridex: ext3 drives can only have their tails moved.  depending on your partition usage, you may or may not be able to massage your partitions into some freespace
[04:19] <kauer> genius314: I wonder if the stick was in some kind of state that Windows has fixed. Yuk.
[04:19] <jerp_> glxgears needs to have an mph rating in the window at the bottom
[04:19] <juano> amicrawler: ok, change the driver from "nv" to "nvidia"
[04:19] <genius314> kauer: Maybe. Maybe I should try it in the new hub now?
[04:19] <elyon225> auTONYmous: There is no 'Scripts' listed.
[04:20] <amicrawler> driver sayes nvidia
[04:20] <overridex> Flannel: it's an ntfs partition that i'm trying to get some unallocated space in front of to put a /boot partition
[04:20] <amicrawler> boradname said nv
[04:20] <kauer> genius314: I seem to recall reading somewhere that USB wireless was still pretty flakey under Linux. Also found this: http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk/products/wireless/
[04:20] <jerp_> auTONYmous, thanks for the heads up there a few minutes ago :)
[04:20] <Aggort> Is there a way to get Ubuntu to support 1440 x 900?
[04:20] <Flannel> overridex: ah.  Um, I actually have no idea if ntfs's beginnings are movable.
[04:20] <variant> Flannel: actualy, the latest version of gparted can resize/move all in any direction (there is one restriction on xfs but i don't recall what it was)
[04:21] <kauer> genius314:  hey go for it :-)
[04:21] <variant> Flannel: ntfs has full move/resize support
[04:21] <auTONYmous> elyon225: Okay, then you can alt-f2, "gksudo file-roller", then open the archive
[04:21] <genius314> kauer: Okay.
[04:21] <kauer> ngenius314: Gotta go - geed luck :-)
[04:21] <amicrawler> i get the bootsplash of nvidia
[04:21] <pomalley> i need help with my fat32 partition--is this the right place to ask?
[04:22] <overridex> Flannel: hehe k
[04:22] <variant> Flannel: the chart on the gparted homepage is out of date
[04:22] <juano> amicrawler: you should have something like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/903/
[04:22] <Aggort> Is there a way to get Ubuntu to view at 1440 x 900?
[04:22] <juano> amicrawler: you do?
[04:22] <Camden> does anybody know if it's "safe" to upgrade to edgy
[04:22] <elyon225> auTONYmous: Thank you... that worked.
[04:22] <Camden> I can't find info that says if the early problems are still there
[04:22] <amicrawler> yeah i do
[04:22] <juano> amicrawler: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf, copy it and paste it in paste bin here  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, pass me the url
[04:23] <Vuen> hey guys, i'm having a problem with twinview. i set it up using nvidia-settings and it works great, except when i maximize a window, it stretches across both monitors. how can i make it maximize to only one monitor?
[04:23] <auTONYmous> elyon225: I knew SOMETHING would work...
[04:23] <Camden> i see "hints" on the forums of what to do if it messes up
[04:23] <Aggort> Is there a way to get Ubuntu to view at 1440 x 900?
[04:23] <Camden> but i am looking for something that says that things have been fixed somewhat
[04:23] <Camden> i am still scared by the horror stories
[04:23] <variant> Aggort: if the monitor/gfx card/driver supports it
[04:23] <Vuen> Aggort: yes, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add in the resolution
[04:24] <Flannel> variant: only through the same massagings that you would have to manually do anyway.  libparted still cannot move beginnings of those FS types
[04:24] <Camden> i also saw something that said "don't upgrade unless you need to"
[04:24] <Aggort> VuenL In terminal?
[04:24] <gray> camden: i upgraded.  no problems here =)
[04:24] <variant> Flannel: i assure you it can
[04:24] <Aggort> Vuen:*
[04:24] <Camden> is there any info about what the problems were and what was done about them?
[04:24] <Camden> that would reassure me somewhat
[04:24] <Vuen> Aggort: wherever you want. press alt+f2, type "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[04:25] <Aggort> ty very much
[04:25] <Vuen> Aggort: make sure you make a backup first
[04:25] <Vuen> Aggort: because if you break that file, your windowing environment will be gone
[04:25] <Vuen> make sure you know how to restore it from a terminal before starting
[04:25] <IntuitiveNipple> Vuen: try reading this, especially the note at the end http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=1454810#post1454810
[04:26] <Aggort> vuen will do
[04:26] <auTONYmous> vuen: default gedit behavior is to create a backup of a file...unless you switch the option off...but you're right..manual backup is more peace of mind
[04:27] <magic_ninja> how do i upgrade my nvidia driver w/backports
[04:27] <magic_ninja> or better yet all of my software
[04:27] <IntuitiveNipple> backups with date/time based names are more useful, too
[04:27] <auTONYmous> IntuitiveNipple: that's the convention where I work. <filename>.YYYYMMDD
[04:28] <IntuitiveNipple> i always put the date/time in the middle, so the extension remains the same and so categorising and finding files isn't affected
[04:28] <Camden> What's the best way to get a .wmv video onto a DVD?
[04:29] <auTONYmous> IntuitiveNipple: we use the date last so sorting the files yields the most recent changes (and eases figuring out WHO THE FSCK did it...)
[04:29] <Camden> right now I have a very convoluted solution
[04:29] <Camden> through .avi
[04:29] <IntuitiveNipple> ahhh, i see. I'm usually more interested in still having default access to files (based on their extension)
[04:29] <Camden> which takes lots of disk space during the process
[04:29] <Pummage> Howdy Doody gentlemen and ladies.
[04:29] <Camden> i do mencoder to get the avi
[04:30] <Camden> then i use kino to edit and gen. the mpeg
[04:30] <IntuitiveNipple> camden - is it possible to use VirtualDub ?
[04:30] <Camden> then dvdauth
[04:30] <Camden> never tried it
[04:30] <Camden> is it like kino?
[04:30] <cafuego> Camden: Can't you just use ffmpeg and go from wmv->vob?
[04:30] <Pummage> Can somebody help me with installing Ubuntu?
[04:30] <cablesm102> Pummage, sure
[04:30] <IntuitiveNipple> I used it with Adobe Preimere Pro as a frame server and had good results
[04:31] <Pummage> can I query you?
[04:31] <Aggort> Vuen: How do I add it exactly?
[04:31] <Camden> vob will import oto kino?
[04:31] <cafuego> IntuitiveNipple: That doesn't run particularly well on linux *and* costs a lot of money.
[04:31] <Camden> is vob compressed?
[04:31] <IntuitiveNipple> what VurtalDub ?
[04:31] <cafuego> Camden: VOB is MPEg2 for DVD
[04:31] <cafuego> IntuitiveNipple: Premiere pro
[04:31] <Vuen> Aggort: under the Screen section, you'll see a series of Modes lines, like this:
[04:32] <Vuen> Modes           "1440x900" "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480" "640x350"
[04:32] <pigwrangler> anyone ever install on a macbook?
[04:32] <IntuitiveNipple> oh, i know that! I was talking about VirtualDub though
[04:32] <Tamacracker> does anyone know how to use Airsnort?
[04:32] <Vuen> add in 1440x900 like i did above
[04:32] <Aggort> yea
[04:32] <cafuego> pigwrangler: Not yet, but when I get a new laptop I will :-)
[04:32] <Camden> so is VOB what is output by Kino when you select "export to DVD"?
[04:32] <IntuitiveNipple> it can be used by a lot of apps as i understand it, using the frame-server
[04:32] <Tamacracker> does anyone know how to use Airsnort?
[04:32] <Aggort> ty
[04:32] <magic_ninja> Tamacracker: get on google.com and look up some howtos
[04:32] <pigwrangler> i cant seem to get the rez 1280x800 for mine to work
[04:32] <cafuego> !repeat > Tamacracker
[04:32] <Camden> do you know the ffmpeg command line to go from .wmv to vob?
[04:33] <Aggort> Vuen: To every line?
[04:33] <IntuitiveNipple> ahh, virtualdub has problems with wine, apparently
[04:33] <Vuen> Aggort: yes.
[04:33] <amicrawler> still doing it
[04:33] <Camden> so virtualdub is a win prog?
[04:33] <amicrawler> gears slow then studders then slow again
[04:33] <Camden> it needs wine?
[04:33] <cafuego> Camden: yeah. I'm pretty sure ffmpeg can do what you want, anyway.
[04:33] <Camden> cafuego: do you know the cmd line?
[04:34] <Bhaskar> how can i convert rpm package to .dev so thar i can install these package in ubuntu
[04:34] <Aggort> Still doesn't show up
[04:34] <Aggort> ?
[04:34] <IntuitiveNipple> camden, apprently yes. Although its free software, I'd always assumed it was a cross port !
[04:34] <cablesm102> !alien
[04:34] <variant> Bhaskar: alien
[04:34] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[04:34] <IntuitiveNipple> that'll teach me to read up on it
[04:34] <IntuitiveNipple> it looks in windows like its been ported from Linux :)
[04:34] <Aggort> Vuen: Do i then need to restart or re login?
[04:35] <amicrawler> i have the nvidia drivers installed from apt-get
[04:36] <pomalley> hey folks--i'm trying to install vmware server on my machine but when i try to set the directory for the virtual machine files it says "Unable to change access rights" of the folder and stops. The folder in question is on a fat32 drive that i use to share between windows & linux. I had vmware working before, i swear, but I don't remember if this problem came up. (i am running it with root priviledges, of course.)
[04:36] <variant> pomalley: fat32 doesn't support permissions at all
[04:36] <pomalley> that's what i thought, but then how did i have it working before?
[04:36] <pomalley> oh well
[04:36] <Camden> talking about vmware... I actually got Dell to send me an install CD
[04:36] <Camden> it was quite easy
[04:36] <amicrawler> do i need to get the nvidia drivers from nvidia
[04:37] <Camden> is that all i need for vmware?
[04:37] <variant> pomalley: programs that require permissions to be set on it's files before it runs can't be installed on fat32
[04:37] <noelferreira> hi people. need help installing vdr? anyone?
[04:37] <cafuego> Camden: Try this: ffmpeg -i <input file> -target pal-dvd (or ntsc-dvd) -f vob outputfile.vob
[04:37] <Aggort> Vuen: Did ya leave lol
[04:37] <Vuen> Aggort: close all your open windows, then press ctrl+alt+del to restart X.
[04:37] <auTONYmous> pomalley: I never got VMWare to run on anything but a native Linux partition. FAT32 and NTFS wouldn't work
[04:37] <Aggort> ok
[04:37] <Vuen> Aggort: err, not ctrl+alt+del, ctrl+alt+backspace
[04:37] <kyncani> !nvidia > amicrawler
[04:37] <pigwrangler> camden: they sent u a restore disk
[04:38] <pomalley> variant: i have it installed on my ext3 partition. i was just trying to set the location of the virtual machine files to the fat32, 'cause there was more space there
[04:38] <pigwrangler> camden probably chalked full or bull
[04:38] <pomalley> er, that was for auTONYmouse
[04:38] <Camden> cafuego: thanks!
[04:38] <cafuego> Camden: On my machine that generates a 6Mbps MPEG2 video stream with 448Kbps 4800KHz AAC audio
[04:38] <Naik0> someone knows how to change resolution in Fluxbox?
[04:38] <pomalley> auTONYmous, sorry. ugh.
[04:38] <noelferreira> hi people. need help installing vdr? anyone?
[04:38] <auTONYmous> pomalley: that's what I meant. You have to move the VM files off FAT32...
[04:38] <Camden> cafuego: what would i do next after getting the vob?
[04:38] <Camden> i am used to kino, which generates an .xml file
[04:39] <Orangekid13> how do i get to my ntfs drive from an ubuntu livecd to back up my important files... windows sucks, i bow to the holy ubuntu and didn't switch soon enough
[04:39] <Vuen> shit
[04:39] <cafuego> Camden: to the best of my knowledge, they go in a VIDEO_TS directory on a DVD
[04:39] <pomalley> auTONYmous: yeah, but i had the VM files there before. i wiped my ubuntu when the edgy upgrade started, but the vm files were left over 'cause they were on the fat32
[04:39] <Orangekid13> my computer knew what i was up to
[04:39] <Camden> which i use with dvdauthor
[04:39] <pomalley> auTONYmous: and i distinctly remember storing them there and using them
[04:39] <cafuego> Camden: Whatever you normally use to create DVDs,should be able to use VOB files as raw input.
[04:39] <pomalley> auTONYmous: but maybe i'm just crazy
[04:39] <auTONYmous> pomalley: well, you _could_ always try playing with the mount setuid and mount point permissions...good luck (never worked for me)
[04:40] <Camden> cafuego: so i could run dvdauthor on the vob file?
[04:40] <noelferreira> hi people. need help installing vdr? anyone?
[04:40] <Orangekid13> can i get help with ntfs drive access from a live cd?
[04:40] <cafuego> Camden: I've never sued dvdauthor, so I can't tell you.
[04:40] <riotkittie> Orangekid13: i would love to help you but i am clueless on that front
[04:40] <pomalley> auTONYmous: yeah, maybe that's what i had going before, some crazy stuff like that. huh.
[04:41] <h3xis> Orangekid13, i'll help you
[04:41] <cablesm102> My laptop master volume only controls the speakers. I have to use the Headphone control for my headphones. I'd like to have one volume control for everything (a la Windows) that can be controlled by my laptop's volume keys, which right now only control Master.
[04:41] <pomalley> auTONYmous: you don't happen to remember what permissions vmware server requires?
[04:41] <magic_ninja> !automatix
[04:41] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:41] <h3xis> Orangekid13, do you want to write to it?
[04:41] <auTONYmous> pomalley: root owner, 644, I would imagine
[04:41] <magic_ninja> !WorksForMe
[04:41] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[04:41] <pigwrangler> how do you see what your current resolution is at?
[04:42] <auTONYmous> pomalley: I don't use server anymore, so I can't confirm
[04:42] <pomalley> auTONYmous: yeah, makes sense. i'll give it a shot.
[04:42] <LucianSolaris> w00t i hacked my gpg to generate 16384 bit keys!!!
[04:42] <riotkittie> !ssh
[04:42] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[04:42] <LucianSolaris> putty is awsome
[04:42] <macd> on xchat where might the file . tools . etc bar at the top have gone? it looks like the gnome-xchant package now
[04:42] <auTONYmous> pomalley: and I moved my VMs to a XFS disk, with solid vdisks
[04:43] <riotkittie> ack. i should have done that somewhere where i had a mouse
[04:43] <Camden> back on the subject of the cd that i got from dell... it says "reinstallation cd ms win xp home edition serv pack 2"
[04:43] <kyncani> pigwrangler: with xdpyinfo
[04:43] <pigwrangler> kyncani thanks
[04:43] <Camden> can i use that in vmware?
[04:43] <kyncani> pigwrangler: np :)
[04:43] <Camden> i would like to wipe out my preinstalled win partition
[04:43] <Bhaskar> variant: how can i recover data of FAT from ubuntu
[04:44] <pomalley> auTONYmous: yeah, i got the vmware station from the repositories but it wouldn't load up the saved VM i had b/c i had that VM set to 2 processors (like my cpu). i could have just rebuilt one, i guess, but i had that one set for my iTunes store account, and since you only have 5 authorizations, and it's always a pain to cancel them all and so on... you get the idea. besides, it's fun that way. or something.
[04:44] <Camden> and use vmware whenever i would have booted to win xp
[04:44] <riotkittie> macd: eww.
[04:44] <macd> riotkittie, I know right.
[04:44] <auTONYmous> Camden: probably not...If I'm not mistaken, the Dell XP installers look for a specific CPU ID that Intel sells to Dell only. They won't work on any other hardware
[04:44] <Camden> someone said dell may have sent me a "restore cd"
[04:44] <pigwrangler> is there a special font needed for LCD's?
[04:44] <Aggort> Why does ubuntu use Firefox 1.5?
[04:44] <LucianSolaris> so who likes the idea of an erotically large rsa keypair?
[04:44] <Camden> auTONYmous: but it IS the original hardware!
[04:44] <Flannel> Aggort: dapper does, edgy uses 2.0
[04:44] <Camden> auTONYmous: i dual boot now
[04:45] <Flannel> Aggort: major versions of software are frozen each release,
[04:45] <Camden> auTONYmous: i would like to wipe out the xp partition and replace it with vmware
[04:45] <auTONYmous> Camden: but it won't look that way to the XP install if you load it under VMware
[04:45] <kitche> dapper even has firefox 2
[04:45] <IntuitiveNipple> Lots of PC OEMs ship a 'restore' disk that contains a disk-image ala Norton Ghost, no a Windows CD
[04:45] <stinky> is anyone's installation slow if they're not connected to the internet?
[04:45] <LucianSolaris> kfine ignore me
[04:45] <riotkittie> ff2 is in the repos?
[04:45] <Aggort> Flannel: Can I upgrade to firefox 2.0 on dapper?
[04:45] <kitche> !backports
[04:45] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[04:45] <riotkittie> werd.
[04:46] <auTONYmous> Camden: It's always worth a try, but if it doesn't work, you know why
[04:46] <pigwrangler> kyncani: you know what package that is?
[04:46] <Camden> auTONYmous: what is the standard way of getting xp on vmware?
[04:46] <Aggort> Can I upgrade to firefox 2.0 on dapper
[04:46] <riotkittie> i dont think i like 2 tho. hm
[04:46] <kitche> Aggort: though backports
[04:46] <Aggort> kitche: Is it worth it?
[04:46] <auTONYmous> Camden: a standard Retail or Corporate XP Home/Pro disk
[04:47] <Camden> auTONYmous: do i have any chance of getting that from dell?
[04:47] <riotkittie> Camden: no.
[04:47] <auTONYmous> Camden: the cd's that Dell, HP, and others give out are called OEM disks, with a bunch of OEM locks on them.
[04:47] <Rappermas> is it possible to reinstall GRUB with the edgy install cd if you, say, wipe GRUB away?
[04:48] <Aggort> OK one last thing, where can I get some more Apps?
[04:48] <riotkittie> Rappermas: yes. i /think/ you pop the cd in and 'sudo grub-install' at a term
[04:48] <riotkittie> i had to do it a few days ago when i hosed GRUB with a zen install
[04:48] <pingswept> How can I switch from the 2.6.20-4-386 kernel to 2.6.20-4-generic? I have both installed, but I don't know how they are selected.
[04:48] <Rappermas> riotkittie: i assume i'd use the repair mode
[04:48] <Camden> would it be possible from someone to hack a solution that would somehow read the OEM OS off of the xp partition and move it into vmware on the linux partition??
[04:48] <auTONYmous> Camden: BUT, if you have a reinstall cd, then there's a chance that the cd's load process _may not_ check your hardware IDs
[04:48] <Rappermas> but then it's just grub-install
[04:48] <Rappermas> see i need to make sure
[04:48] <Rappermas> cuz i blew away my XP install on my dual
[04:48] <Aggort>  OK one last thing, where can I get some more Apps?
[04:48] <Rappermas> and i want to put Vista on there
[04:48] <Rappermas> just for the thrill of it
[04:49] <stinky> anyone know why ubuntu would run slow if it wasn't connected to the internet?
[04:49] <Rappermas> but I'm NOT about to lose an entire Linux install
[04:49] <riotkittie> hm. try 'man grub' just to be on the safe side :P
[04:49] <Rappermas> lol
[04:49] <Rappermas> i'd have to see
[04:49] <Rappermas> i think i'll just pop in the cd and see what it gives me
[04:49] <Rappermas> it's worth the shot at least
[04:49] <cafuego> Rappermas: Just run it virtualised under linux *snort*
[04:49] <riotkittie> oh man. it took me NINE hours to get back into ubuntu after that ;/
[04:49] <Rappermas> i'm a gamer, unfortunately
[04:49] <Rappermas> well kind of
[04:49] <Rappermas> more of a programmer
[04:49] <auTONYmous> Camden: There IS a way, that requires having two computers and cloning the XP install across the network...VMware has a disk for it, but I'm still not sure it would boot.
[04:49] <Rappermas> but I like to get a fair share of HL2 and whatnot now and then
[04:50] <cafuego> What you want a scary eyecandy cpu-munch-o-matic OS for then?
[04:50] <Rappermas> vmware is great
[04:50] <Rappermas> as soon as it supports 3d it will be amazing
[04:50] <compsman> i need a music player that will play wma and mp3
[04:50] <Rappermas> i'm talking opengl 3d here
[04:50] <Rappermas> but yeah, this is need to investigate
[04:50] <riotkittie> the day any MS is "amazing" is the day i am suddenly an ungodly hot chick
[04:50] <riotkittie> it's not happening
[04:51] <Rappermas> I'm pretty sure that Vista won't have wireless drivers for my card, unlike Ubuntu did, but then, what does Vista come with drivers for anyways?  The numlock key ?
[04:51] <cafuego> auTONYmous: install driver for new controller first, THEN move disk.
[04:51] <pomalley> Rappermas: hey dude, the numlock key is important.
[04:51] <auTONYmous> cafuego: which requires loading VMware Tools on the XP install first...
[04:51] <Rappermas> riotkittie: vmware is going to be amazing
[04:51] <toothpick> Democracy isn't working for me
[04:51] <riotkittie> hehe
[04:51] <amicrawler> is there any real  ubuntu  geeks in her
[04:51] <Rappermas> vmware is going to kick some serious...
[04:52] <owh> I have a client with a crashing OO.o. It only happens when they have the Auto Filter turned on. I find no bugs that look anything like it either on launchpad, or on the oo.o site. Any suggestions of things to investigate?
[04:52] <cafuego> toothpick: Yeah. Go tyrant. far easier.
[04:52] <compsman> i want xmms to play wma
[04:52] <Rappermas> alright, i need to try this and make sure that i can recover grub when vista decides to overwrite it
[04:52] <Rappermas> later
[04:52] <Rappermas> quit
[04:52] <Rappermas> darn
[04:52] <owh> amicrawler: Well, I'm a geek and I use Ubuntu, what is your challenge?
[04:52] <diskus_> amicrawler: probably not, why do you need real ubuntu geek?
[04:52] <amicrawler> my nvida card
[04:52] <owh> Sigh.
[04:52] <metres> Hi guys, I have problem trying to sign my package (using sudo debuild -S -sa -kD60EF9F8)... I got this : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/905/
[04:53] <Camden> ffmpeg crashed
[04:53] <Camden> when i tried .wmv to .vob
[04:53] <owh> amicrawler: You should look at the forums. There are many suggestions on how to manage the installation and configuration.
[04:53] <amicrawler> glx-gears  go slow then it suddders
[04:53] <cafuego> Camden: yay
[04:53] <amicrawler> i install and enabled
[04:54] <riotkittie> did you make any changes to xorg.conf?
[04:54] <amicrawler> no
[04:54] <old-monk> metres: seems your gpg key is protected with a passphrase
[04:54] <amicrawler> i got 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV36.4 [GeForce FX 5700VE]  (rev a1)
[04:54] <Camden> now kino is importing the .avi file, but that is extremely slow
[04:55] <metres> old-monk : I write it... i just create the key...
[04:55] <Camden> it is a 4 hour long video
[04:55] <JAnYou> [Help] The `Dictionary' application in my Ubuntu is not working. Whenever I start to look up a work, and input the word in the query form, it runs into no response, and the panel is earased!
[04:55] <metres> it bugs before...
[04:55] <Camden> i tested the import on a smaller .wmv -> .avi
[04:55] <Camden> and it worked in kino
[04:55] <Camden> so i'll just see what happens
[04:55] <old-monk> metres: check debuild to see how to use passphrase of gpg key
[04:55] <owh> metres: There are good instructions in the launchpad help for that.
[04:56] <amicrawler> whats is aglx ?
[04:56] <Camden> uh oh
[04:56] <owh> amicrawler: A way of drawing graphics off-screen in a buffer.
[04:56] <Camden> it looks like Kino is for some reason making a copy of the huge .avi file
[04:56] <amicrawler> owh  what do i do ?
[04:56] <Camden> i don't have enough space for that
[04:56] <amicrawler> i'v installed
[04:56] <amicrawler> the drivers and enabled it
[04:57] <Camden> is there any way of avoiding that?
[04:57] <owh> amicrawler: Does glxinfo actually show that it is enabled?
[04:57] <amicrawler> can i do that in the shell?
[04:57] <Camden> can i split up the avi file somehow?
[04:58] <Camden> and create mult. mpegs out of kino
[04:58] <Camden> then put them together on the dvd?
[04:58] <Hansel> Any apps/games I should have?  So far I've got Firefox, blender, audacity, openoffice, gimp, wormux, moagg, monkey-bubble and gaim.
[04:58] <owh> amicrawler: If you look in the Ubuntu forums you'll see a whole host of pages about the subject including step for step instructions.
[04:58] <madadh_> so I did the following command sudo dpkg --force-architecture -i wine_0.9.28~winehq0~ubuntu~6.06-1_i386.deb and now I'd rather use version 9.27 is there an easy to install the older version but keep my config
[04:58] <theflyingfool> has anyone gotten roseta stone working on edgy via wine or anything else
[04:58] <variant> theflyingfool: what is it?
[04:59] <theflyingfool> a language learning program
[04:59] <amicrawler> 3d accelerator   unknow
[04:59] <variant> theflyingfool: does it do swedish? :)
[04:59] <xerophyte> Open office does not open the ms word doc good .. i mean tables come as image .. is there way i can fix that??
[04:59] <theflyingfool> it does do swedish actually
[04:59] <variant> amicrawler: sudo update-pciids
[04:59] <variant> theflyingfool: cool
[04:59] <Naik0> Hello mates, iam a little bit of a newbie on linux but i really starting to learn some things here, now i want to set my resolution to "1600 x 1024" i know i can have that because when i was using gnome i had that.
[04:59] <variant> theflyingfool: im learning
[05:00] <theflyingfool> every langauge is over priced but there are some easy ways to get it free...
[05:00] <Naik0> when i write xrandr it says iam using 1280 x 1024 and that is the largest
[05:00] <madadh_> xerophyte, it really depends on how the word document was made - but no you don't really have control over that as far as I know
[05:00] <amicrawler> ok donw
[05:00] <variant> theflyingfool: like always
[05:00] <amicrawler> done
[05:00] <metres> owh : I dont see any help section in launchpad...
[05:00] <theflyingfool> does wine have an irc channel?
[05:00] <variant> does anyone know if launchpad is still closed source?
[05:00] <yoshiznit123> Naik0, you can always add it to the end of the list as a resolution in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:01] <owh> metres: One mo, I'll find a URL for you...
  what did i just do ?
[05:01] <variant> amicrawler: you updated the list of pci id's that lspci uses
[05:01] <sdgr406> Naiko - using ubuntu w/gnome? maybe System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution
[05:01] <variant> amicrawler: run lspci again
[05:02] <yoshiznit123> variant, and yes i think it's still closed
[05:02] <madadh_> theflyingfool, http://winehq.com/site/irc
[05:02] <Naik0> yoshiznit123: i open xorg.conf now and i see alots of resolutions with differents depth values..
[05:02] <variant> yoshiznit123: that sucks
[05:02] <amicrawler> ok i di
[05:02] <amicrawler> did
[05:02] <verdRousseau> I installed KdE then uninstalled it however when I am loading my comp up it still says Kubuntu how do I get rid of this
[05:02] <Naik0> 6 Subsections with resolutions
[05:02] <owh> metres: Do you have a launchpad account? The help shows up when you want to add an OpenPGP key.
[05:02] <yoshiznit123> Naik0, you can add it to the end of each one which should work, make sure you follow the same format though and back it up just in case
[05:02] <Naik0> ah ok
[05:02] <Naik0> thanks yoshiznit123
[05:03] <metres> owh : yes I done that
[05:03] <amicrawler> ok just did
[05:03] <owh> metres: What I mean is that the help is there...
[05:03] <kyncani> !fixres > Naik0
[05:03] <jerp_> verdRousseau, is it the splash screen?
[05:03] <verdRousseau> jerp not sure I understand what you are asking
[05:03] <verdRousseau> not the sign in screen
[05:03] <verdRousseau> but the loading screen
[05:03] <jerp_> the big colored screen when booting
[05:03] <verdRousseau> yes
[05:03] <metres> owh : No I have the right password... the error is elsewhere...
[05:03] <owh> metres: Sorry, my bad. The help just points the way :-)  -- man gpg is your friend :-)
[05:04] <verdRousseau> jerp-with the loading bar
[05:04] <jerp_> it's just like wallpaper, it can be changed
[05:04] <pomalley> auTONYmous: still here? i installed it using a folder on my ext3 for the virtual machines, and it works--i can load up the vm i have on my fat32
[05:04] <owh> metres: You can make gpg remember the passphrase for a little while.
[05:04] <verdRousseau> jerp- how do you change it
[05:04] <Naik0> !fixres > Naik0
[05:04] <madadh_> verdRousseau, ya I have that too just didn't care enough to find a fix
[05:04] <pomalley> guess not
[05:05] <metres> owh : in seahorse ?
[05:05] <pomalley> later folks
[05:05] <verdRousseau> so where do you go to change the wallper
[05:05] <owh> metres: Hold on for a tick...
[05:05] <metres> verdRousseau : right-click on the desktop...
[05:05] <variant> verdRousseau: right clieck desktop
[05:05] <bert> hey all, I've got a problem playing media in edgy off a Samba share which is also running Edgy. I can see the files, I can copy the files to my desktop and they work fine, I just cannot play them. I get a message about buffering the file and then nothing. This happens with audio and video files. Has anyone had this problem before?
[05:06] <jerp_> verdRousseau, I'm not the whizz to post three lines and a your welcoem at the end,  I'm a newb but I do know it can be changed and I know the abilities of google
[05:06] <verdRousseau> alright thanks
[05:06] <verdRousseau> so you say that screen is called the splash screen
[05:06] <madadh_> bert, which program are you using
[05:06] <magic_ninja> !xvmc
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xvmc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:07] <sdgr406> bert: I'm pretty sure I had a similar problem when using audacious... dunno if it supports samba shares. you might be better off using NFS
[05:07] <adub> what if i cant remember my irc password for freenode ??
[05:07] <jerp_> verd, yeah, is it before or after the login?
[05:07] <bert> madadh: Totem and xmms for audo
[05:07] <verdRousseau> before
[05:07] <owh> metres: Hmm: http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-devel/2005-August/022279.html
[05:07] <Camden> i can't believe the size of this .avi file - 78GB+
[05:07] <metres> thanks owh
[05:07] <Camden> no way to split it?
[05:07] <variant> magic_ninja: try amarok for audio. excellent if you have a lot of music
[05:08] <overridex> bert: it works if you mount the samba share as a drive on your system
[05:08] <madadh_> bert, I've had good luck with totem for audio over samba - amarok hates samba
[05:08] <bert> sdgr406: It worked a week ago (last time I was on the machine), then it stopped. Maybe an update killed it? My xbox running xbmc still works fine pulling files from the same samba server
[05:09] <Camden> or i could have maybe generated DV instead of AVI from mencoder?
[05:09] <eXcentra> Does anybody know how to configure NetworkManager (nm-applet) so that it connects to a specific network first?
[05:09] <Camden> i think kino will use the DV files directly instead of making new files
[05:09] <variant> madadh_: http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/Samba this is a good solution to amarok/samba woes
[05:09] <prisoner1> quick question. how do I stop jigit?
[05:10] <inveratulo> what is jigit
[05:10] <Hansel> how can i get xchat to stop me from autojoining this channel whenever I open it?
[05:10] <bert> overridex: I haven't tried that, I'm just confused as to why it suddenly stopped
[05:10] <prisoner1> it's something that's supposed to download quicker
[05:10] <prisoner1> it's in the ubuntu repos
[05:10] <toulouse> join #rockbox
[05:10] <toulouse> crap
[05:10] <Hansel> toulouse:  dont spam
[05:11] <toulouse> no
[05:11] <Hansel> yes
[05:11] <toulouse> i was trying to type and join it
[05:11] <toulouse> sorry
[05:11] <owh> toulouse: Wrong window :-)
[05:11] <toulouse> i missed the slash
[05:11] <overridex> bert: not sure, it never worked for me
[05:11] <toulouse> lol
[05:11] <toulouse> it's not spam lol
[05:11] <eXcentra> Hansel, go to XChat > Network List. Find the server in the list, click Edit. Then, remove the channel from the "Channels to join" list.
[05:12] <IntuitiveNipple> Is this a bug? Edgy with Gnome, when I go to System>Preferences>Sound, on the Sounds tab the "Default sound card" shows "USB Camera" even though I keep changing it, and as far as I can tell is being used for sound output (ALSA tests work on the Devices tab)
[05:12] <verdRousseau> for soem reason I cant get to the filesystem of my comp( when I click on file system it only has a link to home and media)
[05:12] <KillerT> what is the next ubuntu codename? or version #
[05:12] <IntuitiveNipple> Feisty Fawn
[05:12] <KillerT> thnx
[05:13] <sdgr406> anyone know why I can burn a dvd from command line using growisofs but nautilus-cd-burner or brasero eject the disc and tell me to insert a recordable disc?
[05:13] <Anubuntu> Hello
[05:13] <HentaiSushi> lol
[05:13] <HentaiSushi> ubuntu ftw
[05:14] <cstyve2> riotkittie: Got my edgy eft up and running....
[05:14] <Anubuntu> wondering if someone can help me with rar files in Edgy?
[05:14] <naik0> Hey in fluxbox why isnt my wallpaper saved when i restart X?
[05:14] <riotkittie> cstyve2, cool, glad to hear it
[05:14] <HentaiSushi> er i dont use rar files so i dont know, sorry :(
[05:14] <naik0> everytime i restart X my wallpaper disiperars
[05:14] <owh> Anubuntu: If you search in the help you'll find a comment on how to open them :-)
[05:14] <cstyve2> riotkittie: I tell ya...if you efer turn on remote login it's a pain to turn off if you don't do it correctly.
[05:14] <Anubuntu> owh: Which help exactly?
[05:15] <riotkittie> cstyve2,  i'll keep that in mind ;)
[05:15] <riotkittie> brb. need coffee in large quantities
[05:15] <eXcentra> Does anybody know how to configure NetworkManager (nm-applet) so that it connects to a specific network first (at logon)?
[05:15] <cstyve2> Anyone know where I can via Unichrome drivers for edgy eft
[05:15] <owh> Anubuntu: Hmm, that was a bit of a bum steer wasn't it. I didn't find it either :-)
[05:15] <theflyingfool> what are the programs to run windows programs i know wine and crossover office are there any others
[05:15] <owh> Anubuntu: Hold on for a tick...
[05:16] <sdgr406> Anubuntu: what's the question about rar files?
[05:16] <verdRousseau> im not sure if the splash is what I am trying to change afterall, before you even get to the login screen ubuntu loads up with a loading bar
[05:16] <verdRousseau> how would I go about changing that
[05:16] <IntuitiveNipple> sounds like the GRUB splash (the bootloader)
[05:16] <Anubuntu> owh: actually, I just found it, quick search for rar on ubuntuguide.org.... sudo apt-get install rar
[05:17] <cstyve2> riotkittie: turn on machine..ctrl-alt-bksp many times to force xserver to crash...restart xserver then if your lucky you can get access to login administration...10 tries before it worked....
[05:17] <Anubuntu> now why didnt I think of trying that before...
[05:17] <sdgr406> verdRousseau: you mean just after POST and before gdm loads? the bootsplash?
[05:17] <owh> Yup, that's what I did with apt-cache search rar ;) Anubuntu
[05:17] <craigbass1976> How come when I apt-get remove apache, the /etc/init.d/apache isn't removed?  When I remove it manually, as well as the files in /var/www/ things aren't put back when I apt-get install apache.
[05:17] <verdRousseau> after POsST?
[05:17] <verdRousseau> not sure what that is
[05:17] <verdRousseau> right after your bios loads
[05:17] <sdgr406> POST = power on self test, before the BIOS hands off to the OS
[05:17] <craigbass1976> Also, when I had it and apache2 both installed, I could run apache, but not apache2.
[05:17] <verdRousseau> yes sdgr
[05:17] <verdRousseau> I think thats it
[05:17] <owh> craigbass1976: You need to do an apt-get --purge remove apache to remove config files.
[05:18] <sdgr406> verdRousseau: the text 'Ubuntu' with a bar that scrolls across? that's the bootsplash
[05:18] <verdRousseau> okay thanks
[05:18] <craigbass1976> owh, I get "Package apache is not installed, so not removed" so do I have to install it and then run the purge command?
[05:19] <owh> craigbass1976: Yup.
[05:19] <jrib> craigbass1976: because apache depends on apache-common or something similar.  In any case it's a dependency taht is probably responsible for that
[05:19] <jerp_> verd, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157897&page=3
[05:19] <owh> craigbass1976: If you want to also remove the automagic stuff, the command is: apt-get --purge autoremove apache
[05:20] <alankc> Sorry for the newbie question, but Im about to install ubuntu 6.10 i386. Im looking for the GUI interface.. should I chose "text mode", "OEM mode", or "comand-line"? Again, sry for the newbie question ;p
[05:20] <jerp_> verd, click that link the person offers
[05:20] <noelferreira> hi people. need help installing vdr? anyone?
[05:20] <owh> alankc: You are likely not using the standard installation CD.
[05:20] <Hansel> how do I get xchat-gnome to NOT join this channel on connect?
[05:20] <alankc> oh?
[05:21] <craigbass1976> owh, Ahh. Very nice.
[05:21] <riotkittie> Hansel, X-Chat > Network   ... find freenode. click edit
[05:21] <owh> alankc: There are three CD's that I know of, the normal one - a LIVECD that does the install. the alternate CD and the Server Edition.
[05:21] <alankc> so I want the live CD?
[05:21] <sdgr406> if you're using the livecd there's an 'install' icon on the desktop.. just click it
[05:21] <cstyve2> Does anyone know where I can get the via unichrome drivers for edgy eft
[05:21] <owh> craigbass1976: I always thought so.
[05:22] <riotkittie> alankc, probably ;p
[05:22] <Hansel> riotkittie - I think I have a different version or something... mine doesnt have that.  I go to Edit -> Preferences ->  Networks -> freenode -> it doesnt have any channels listed...
[05:22] <jakob> Can someone tell me how I create a ~/.myfolder directory?
[05:22] <alankc> lol, damn. Thanx for your help!
[05:22] <owh> alankc: Well, it will give you the simplest install. The alternate CD does a Debian-like install and doesn't give you a boot splash.
[05:22] <inveratulo> no boot splash!!
[05:22] <sdgr406> jakob: mkdir ~/.myfolder
[05:23] <owh> jakob: Open up Places, Home Dir, right click, create folder.
[05:23] <BrettMeister> Will the i386 desktop iso for ubuntu 6.10 install on a IBM Thinkpad R51?
[05:23] <alankc> owh: what do you mean by boot splash?
[05:23] <jakob> thanks sdgr406 and owh. :)
[05:23] <riotkittie> Hansel, ahh.
[05:23] <overridex> BrettMeister: it should :)
[05:23] <owh> alankc: It's a graphic boot screen, not just text scrolling past.
[05:24] <owh> jakob: Hmm, the right click should be File -> Create Folder...
[05:24] <craigbass1976> owh, is there something funny about apache2 in dapper?
[05:24] <owh> craigbass1976: Makes me laugh all the time, but other than that, no.
[05:24] <alankc> got ya.. lol, back to BitTorrent ;P
[05:24] <BrettMeister> overridex: I keep getting this: [DR-DOS]  A:\
[05:24] <craigbass1976> owh, what's that mean?
[05:24] <BrettMeister> What the heck?
[05:24] <owh> craigbass1976: That there is nothing funny about apache2, other than its name.
[05:25] <owh> craigbass1976: It just worked for me.
[05:25] <riotkittie> ooh. i miss ubuntu. <sniff>
[05:25] <overridex> BrettMeister: that's after you get the initial ubuntu boot loader?
[05:25] <owh> riotkittie: Well, that's simple to resolve.
[05:26] <craigbass1976> owh, Oh, I asked if there were something funny.  I get it. duh...
[05:26] <riotkittie> owh -- i know, i just need to reboot
[05:26] <owh> BrettMeister: You have a floppy disk in your drive.
[05:26] <owh> craigbass1976: It happens :-)
[05:26] <bert> alright I tried mounting my samba share and I  was getting an error and when I did a dmesg | tail I got message "smbfs: mount_data version 1684370019 is not supported"
[05:26] <riotkittie> but im playing a game with my husband and flash is so much faster under my other distro
[05:26] <BrettMeister> overridex: It just starts off with the Caldera thing.  It does the same thing when I try to boot gparted, too.
[05:26] <neighborlee> does anyone know why audacity causes weird st atic during playback of recorded audio ?..if I use 'aoss audacity',  the problem disappears , but why ? ;l))
[05:27] <BrettMeister> owh: Thanks, this model does not have a floppy drive.  :-/
[05:27] <owh> BrettMeister: Then you likely have a boot cd that's emulating a DOS floppy :)
[05:27] <craigbass1976> owh, so I guess I've got trouble... I do the purge on apache2, and things are left in /usr/sbin and /etc.  I remove them manually, and reinstall the app, and those things don't come back.
[05:28] <owh> craigbass1976: Before you start removing and purging, what does dpkg tell you that is installed?
[05:28] <BrettMeister> owh: Hmmm...well, this CD drive is one of those quick release ones.  Could that being doing it?
[05:28] <owh> BrettMeister: Not the drive itself, a CD in the drive.
[05:28] <JAAmon> west ringer
[05:28] <nn531> hey is there a way to make the program tabs in the bottom panel not so big?
[05:28] <sdgr406> bert: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/165
[05:29] <owh> craigbass1976: dpkg -l|grep ii|grep -i apache
[05:29] <sdgr406> bert: according to that link you're missing the smbfs package
[05:29] <BrettMeister> owh: Doe you think that I'm burning my ISO wrong?
[05:29] <bert> sdgr406: on the client machine I assume?
[05:29] <owh> nn531: Change the overall width of the applet.
[05:29] <sdgr406> bert: that would be my guess, yeah
[05:29] <owh> BrettMeister: What ISO are you burning?
[05:30] <nn531> owh: what? how do i do that?
[05:30] <BrettMeister> owh: i386-desktop-6.10
[05:30] <craigbass1976> owh, Ok.  thanks
[05:30] <owh> BrettMeister: Did you check the md5?
[05:30] <owh> nn531: Right click on it, select properties.
[05:30] <BrettMeister> owh: yup
[05:31] <nn531> owh: and then?
[05:31] <owh> BrettMeister: When you boot it, do you see a boot menu?
[05:31] <nn531> owh: unclick expand?
[05:31] <owh> nn531: That's the wrong place to right click :-)
[05:31] <nn531> aha
[05:31] <owh> nn531: On the place where the buttons appear.
[05:32] <BrettMeister> owh: Shows that it's cycling through the same Caldera boot that gparted and partition logic uses.
[05:32] <bert> sdg406: Brilliant, thanks
[05:32] <owh> BrettMeister: From memory you should see a menu that allows you to test the integrity of the disc.
[05:32] <owh> BrettMeister: Does it boot off any other CDs?
[05:33] <nn531> owh; ok well I clicked on the properties, then what
[05:33] <owh> nn531: Have a look around, it should become obvious :-)
[05:33] <BrettMeister> owh: Does the same thing with gparted and partition logic.  Comes to a point where it shows [DR-DOS]  A:\
[05:33] <owh> BrettMeister: Then you are not booting from where you think you are.
[05:33] <b14ck73425> hey does anyone know of any good accounting programs?
[05:34] <h3xis> b14ck73425, gnucash?
[05:34] <owh> nn531: Did you find it?
[05:34] <BrettMeister> owh: Okay
[05:34] <b14ck73425> is it integrated?
[05:34] <nn531> owh: i must be retarded, I clicked on the bar and then it only had two tabs up and then in the one tab it had like 3 options
[05:34] <h3xis> b14ck73425, not sure. if not, install it
[05:34] <wyld> what are oss and non-oss things?
[05:35] <h3xis> wyld, firefox is oss. internet explorer is non-oss.
[05:35] <BrettMeister> owh: Not sure what to do now.
[05:35] <owh> nn531: What is the title of the window?
[05:35] <b14ck73425> h3xis, ty
[05:35] <owh> BrettMeister: Check your BIOS settings.
[05:35] <nn531> owh: panel properties
[05:35] <wyld> ah
[05:35] <wyld> thanks
[05:36] <owh> nn531: It should say "Window List Preferences"
[05:36] <BrettMeister> owh: So you think that my CD drive is tricking the boot program?
[05:36] <owh> BrettMeister: Is the CD drive a USB drive?
[05:36] <BrettMeister> owh: Showing up like a floppy drive?
[05:36] <nn531> owh: no dice man, i click where the tab should be if it were open and I get panel properties
[05:36] <overridex> what program's good for desk applets? there's gdesklets, super karamba... anything else/
[05:36] <owh> nn531: On the bottom left of the screen is the show desk top button, next to it is a little set of dots. Right click there.
[05:37] <owh> BrettMeister: That's what I'm wondering.
[05:37] <BrettMeister> owh: The CD drive is one of those that are meant to be quickly dismounted and removed like you would do a thumb drive.
[05:37] <sdgr406> overridex: I've used gkrellm2 for a long time but it doesn't put applets directly on the desktop
[05:37] <overridex> sdgr406: yeah, i use gkrellm2 as well, but i'd like something nice for weather and an analog clock of sorts
[05:38] <nn531> owh: aha, thank you
[05:38] <owh> BrettMeister: You obviously have another computer lying around :-) Can you verify the disk before we spend too much time?
[05:38] <owh> nn531: :-)
[05:38] <sdgr406> overridex: you probably know that gkrellm2 has a weather plugin then?
[05:39] <BrettMeister> owh: I won't take up any more time tonight.  You have helped a lot already helping me think this through.
[05:39] <overridex> sdgr406: yeah but not what i'm looking for
[05:39] <__Mikem> Do you think ubuntu would make a good live cd to run in my computer class at school, or should I just hunt down a knoppix cd?
[05:39] <owh> BrettMeister: Cool, enjoy.
[05:39] <owh> __Mikem: To do what with?
[05:39] <BrettMeister> owh: Thanks for the effort.  I appreciate it.
[05:40] <sdgr406> overridex: yeah, I kinda stopped using it once I found forecastfox
[05:40] <owh> BrettMeister: Happy to help.
[05:40] <__Mikem> owh, to run in a computer lab with relatively old computers at my school
[05:40] <Aggort> Why would my internet be runnign so slow on Ubuntu?
[05:40] <owh> __Mikem: Well, old computers *may* run the Ubuntu CD, but there are other LiveCD's around that would work better. Have a google :-)
[05:41] <owh> Aggort: Because we're monitoring everything you do :-)
[05:41] <owh> Aggort: Just kidding.
[05:41] <Aggort> owh: LOL, no seriosuly google jsut took 15 seconds
[05:41] <__Mikem> Ill just burn a knoppix cd
[05:41] <owh> Aggort: What kind of connection?
[05:41] <__Mikem> chaw
[05:41] <Aggort> I am on broadband
[05:41] <owh> Aggort: So am I, but is it wired or wireless?
[05:42] <Aggort> owh: On XP it's not this slow.... I am on broadband on the PC that sends out the wireless
[05:42] <tamacreacker> im gettin this when i click start on my airsnort: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/909/
[05:42] <owh> Aggort: Is the computer you are running Ubuntu on connected wirelessly to the net or not?
[05:43] <nn531> tamacreacker: me too
[05:43] <Aggort> owh: No
[05:43] <owh> Aggort: Have you set the DNS for your wired connection?
[05:44] <xerophyte> with dpkg how can i lost only the installed packages ??
[05:44] <owh> xerophyte: What do you mean?
[05:44] <owh> xerophyte: Ah, list :-) dpkg -l|grep ii
[05:45] <Aggort> owh: Didn't think I'd have to, but could you quickly run me through it?
[05:45] <owh> Aggort: Have a gander through System -> Administration -> Networking
[05:46] <Aggort> k
[05:46] <owh> Aggort: The next thing is to test a ping to an IP address, then to a name.
[05:46] <khermans_> Aggort, ping 4.2.2.1
[05:46] <khermans_> I LOVE UBUNTU!!!
[05:47] <Aggort> how?
[05:47] <Aggort> I am sorry
[05:47] <khermans_> Agent_137, ?
[05:47] <khermans_> Aggort, what are you trying to do?
[05:47] <Aggort> kherman_: My itnernet is terribly slow up to a whole minute to load some pages
[05:48] <Aggort> kherman_:I asked why'd it;d be so slow but fast on XP
[05:48] <tamacreacker> im gettin this when i click start: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/909/
[05:48] <tamacreacker> im gettin this when i click start on Airsnort: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/909/
[05:48] <sdgr406> Aggort: maybe there's something screwed up in your /etc/resolv.conf
[05:48] <bulmer> Aggort: you may need to turn off ipv6..google for it, i dont remember the config file to unset it
[05:49] <Aggort> as far as I can tell only firefox loading web pages is slow
[05:49] <Aggort> because downlaods were fast
[05:49] <Aggort> as was connecting to AIm and IRC
[05:49] <XayaL> Bonjourrrrr
[05:50] <Balsamic_Chicken> how do u untar a .bz2 file?
[05:50] <XayaL> Ya quelqun ?????????
[05:50] <XayaL> Ya pas un french
[05:50] <abhinay> how to disable fsck check at boot ?
[05:50] <BlenderKitty> hey, how do I get bluetooth to work?
[05:50] <bulmer> Balsamic_Chicken: try the -j option of tar
[05:50] <BlenderKitty> I'm on a thinkpad
[05:50] <sdgr406> Balsamic_Chicken: tar -xjvf filename
[05:50] <Flannel> !fr | XayaL
[05:50] <Balsamic_Chicken> ty
[05:50] <ubotu> XayaL: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:50] <Aggort> so any ideas?
[05:50] <Balsamic_Chicken> sdgr406 ty
[05:50] <Aggort> because it's quite frustrating
[05:50] <Balsamic_Chicken> bulmer ty
[05:50] <b_e_l> Aggort: check  firefox config... maybe is using a proxy
[05:51] <XayaL> Flannel tes francais ????
[05:51] <arrenlex> !fr | XayaL
[05:51] <ubotu> XayaL: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:51] <XayaL> Grrr
[05:52] <nanotube> guys ... how can I create another instance of my printer but only BLACK & WHITE version... I need to have available teo version one color and another black & white/ grey-scale
[05:52] <Aggort> Any more ideas
[05:52] <Aggort> It's tkaign 11 seconds for Google
[05:52] <puff> Evening... somewhere, at some point, I screwed up the automounting of my nano ipod.
[05:52] <steel> whats the terminal command to config the xserv?
[05:53] <kyncani> !x | steel
[05:53] <ubotu> steel: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:53] <arrenlex> steel: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:53] <nanotube>  guys ... how can I create another instance of my printer but only BLACK & WHITE version... I need to have available teo version one color and another black & white/ grey-scale
[05:53] <Aggort> Please help me with this, it takes over a minute for Ebay
[05:54] <steel> thanks
[05:54] <Balsamic_Chicken> sdgr406 i'm trying to get wine-0.9.28.tar.bz2 to work, i unzipped it fine doing what u said, could u tell me how to get it to work? right now i have the wine-0.9.28 to work
[05:54] <jinx099> Aggort: You using bittorrent?
[05:54] <sdgr406> Balsamic_Chicken: there's probably an install script in the directory that was extracted
[05:54] <Aggort> jinx099: Not right at this moment
[05:54] <Balsamic_Chicken> sdgr406 i meant now i have wine-0.9.28 folder opened
[05:54] <BlenderKitty> HEY has anyone had any luck getting BLUETOOTH to work?
[05:55] <Balsamic_Chicken> sdgr406 there's a bunch of makefiles, i didn't find install scripts tho
[05:55] <Balsamic_Chicken> sdgr406 am i supposed to do ./configure somewhere, or a makefile?
[05:55] <sdgr406> Balsamic_Chicken: ugh.. makefiles
[05:55] <sdgr406> Balsamic_Chicken: you'll need to make sure you have a compiler and development libraries installed... perhaps check wine installation documentation for specifics
[05:55] <b_e_l> Balsamic_Chicken:use the synaptic tool... theres[
[05:55] <b_e_l> a pakage for wine there
[05:55] <Balsamic_Chicken> kk
[05:56] <Aggort> Any more dieas why it might be so slow?
[05:56] <Balsamic_Chicken> bel: yeah i wanted the newer version plus i wanted to try out the .bz2 file
[05:56] <KMWARREN> http://kmwarren.imarichkid.hop.clickbank.net
[05:56] <funkdollar> hello folks
[05:57] <Kahr> I have trouble specifiying a default kernel to load in grub, am I doing it right? http://rafb.net/p/w44Rs629.html
[05:57] <wluz> how can I make my linksys wpc300-n v1 wireless notebook adapter work with ubuntu? It doesn't show up in 'Networking' menu
[05:58] <GigaClon> did you check the ndiswrapper wiki, wluz
[05:58] <Siixa> im getting some weird errors such as apt-get --fix-broken
[05:58] <Siixa> oops wrong one
[05:58] <Siixa> OAFIID:GNOME_Panel_TrashApplet ubuntu
[05:58] <Siixa> anyone know?
[05:58] <funkdollar> i made a mistake and erased some system icons - how do i fix this and locate the broken packages ?
[05:59] <wluz> I cant find ndiswrapper in syanptec, do I have to add a repository?
[05:59] <jevangelo> in edgy server, i have weird things in fstab
[05:59] <BlenderKitty> seriously, has ANYone in here had any luck with Bluetooth in ubuntu?
[05:59] <sdgr406> jevangelo: that's normal
[05:59] <jevangelo> it commented out device paths and put UUIDs in
[05:59] <abhinay> fsck is checking all filesystems on every booting , how to disable it ?
[05:59] <jinx099> BlenderKitty: no, but I havent tried too hard to fix it
[05:59] <GigaClon> check the Ubuntu wiki for "Wireless Networking"
[06:00] <Glod> morning
[06:00] <bulmer> abhinay: check your /etc/fstab
[06:00] <Aggort> I still cannot figure out why my internet is so slow
[06:00] <bulmer> column 5 or 6 i believe
[06:00] <GigaClon> are you sharing it with someone else?
[06:00] <tamacreacker> im gettin this when i click start on Airsnort: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/910/
[06:00] <Aggort> gigaclon: Besides myself  no
[06:01] <jinx099> Aggort: maybe its your ISP...
[06:01] <GigaClon> it might just be your service
[06:01] <doofy2> do most people prefer gtkpod for syncing with an ipod?
[06:01] <jevangelo> sdgr406:  is that becuase its a new udev version than im used to?
[06:01] <bulmer> Aggort: have you google for this topic yet?
[06:01] <Siixa> im getting some weird errors such as OAFIID:GNOME_Panel_TrashApplet ubuntu, anyone know?
[06:01] <abhinay> bulmer, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/911/   <  /etc/fstab
[06:01] <Aggort> jinf099: XP works fine
[06:01] <sdgr406> jevangelo: not sure of the reasoning, but it's not very user friendly or intuitive to look at
[06:01] <Aggort> bulmer: I couldn;t find anything
[06:01] <GigaClon> doofy2, i do
[06:01] <wluz> GigaClon: I am new to all this, I don't know how to fill out this command - linux-headers-`uname -r`
[06:01] <Aggort> I ahve 3 dns servers and a dozen hosts
[06:02] <Bruco16> my splash screen is not loading at boot time although the "splash" option is passed to the kernel... we'd like to feel the system is not freezing ^^
[06:02] <Aggort> any more guesses?
[06:02] <meistercobbman> .
[06:02] <Bruco16> i tries removing the quiet option passed to the kernel in grub, but it's editor just won't make the job :(
[06:02] <abhinay> bulmer, ?
[06:02] <Bruco16> the entries are kinda locked
[06:02] <sdgr406> wluz: those special quotes run the command 'uname -r' and insert the output at the end of linux-headers-
[06:03] <BlenderKitty> Is Intel Core 2 Duo considered 64bit?
[06:03] <GigaClon> wluz uname -r gives you the kernel version of your system
[06:03] <funkdollar> folks any ideas about how to fix the problem of deleting some gnome icons accidentally ?
[06:03] <jinx099> BlenderKitty: yes
[06:03] <BlenderKitty> jinx099: so I should be downloading a 64 bit image of xubuntu?
[06:03] <Bruco16> funkdollar: reinstall an icon pack
[06:03] <seventypercent> I'm getting about 3.5 KB/s to us.archive.ubuntu.com -- is it just loaded down tonight?
[06:03] <jinx099> BlenderKitty: If you want a 64 bit OS, then yeah, but you can run the regular 32 bit version fine
[06:03] <funkdollar> i mean i unfortunately dont know the package names of specific deleted icons and i am trying to figure out a way to reinstall things
[06:04] <bulmer> abhinay: man fstab and look for column 6
[06:04] <Bruco16> hum
[06:04] <jinx099> BlenderKitty: Some stuff might not work quite right in the 64 bit install though, so beware
[06:04] <Siixa> OAFIID:GNOME_Panel_TrashApplet
[06:04] <BlenderKitty> jinx099: if I install the 64 bit version, do I have less programs to choose from, or are the repos the same?
[06:04] <funkdollar> is there any force option to reinstall ubuntu-desktop on top ?
[06:04] <Siixa> anyone know what that is
[06:04] <Bruco16> funkdollar: there's no packages on ubuntu server?
[06:05] <dogmeat> how do i view my floppy drive?
[06:05] <dogmeat> view the contents of the floppy?
[06:05] <Glod> anyone here, who can help me with updating grub? i copied my ubuntu partition to another harddrive and cant use the livecd to update grub on the new disc, because my cdrom is broken
[06:05] <Bruco16> dogmeat: is the device mounted?
[06:05] <bulmer> what format is in your floppy drives? fat?
[06:05] <b_e_l> dogmeat: mount/
[06:05] <b_e_l> it
[06:05] <jinx099> BlenderKitty: You'll probly have the same amount of programs, but certain things may not work, or you may have to jump through hoops to get working
[06:05] <abhinay> bulmer, yup ! the sixth field should be zero to avoid fsck
[06:05] <funkdollar> there are but the problem is as follows : some icons have been accidentally deleted - the packages owning those are unknown to me. And now i see ugly icons in some gnome menus. I ve read the docs of dpkg and apt-get ...
[06:05] <abhinay> bulmer, thank you
[06:05] <GigaClon> wluz, search this wiki with your card name http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
[06:05] <jinx099> BlenderKitty: like flash and stuff
[06:06] <phEight> hey guys, i'm not sure what i did but i installed networkmanager to handle my wifi, however i did something and it is no longer physcially appearing in my toolbar.. how can i get that back? i nkow it's running because sometimes the bubble pops up saying succesfully connected but that bubble just appears on the top of the screen when my toolbar is on the bottom
[06:06] <BlenderKitty> jinx099: ok, I'm just going to do 32bit for now then
[06:06] <dogmeat> device is not mounted, type is msdos
[06:06] <funkdollar> but there seems not to be a way to find out which packages are not installed correctly ie have missing files
[06:06] <nn531> stupid ohio state
[06:06] <jinx099> BlenderKitty: That is a wise choice, most apps are not optimized for 64 bit yet anyway, so the performance gains are minimal
[06:07] <wluz> GigaClon: It says it is a virtual  package and that I should explcitly select one, but when I try to it just keeps giving me that message "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic 2.6.17.1-10.34"
[06:07] <bulmer> dogmeat: try the "m" commands  like mdir mtype
[06:07] <jinx099> BlenderKitty: You installing edgy or dapper?
[06:07] <funkdollar> phEight, is your notification area visible ?
[06:07] <BlenderKitty> dapper
[06:07] <Bruco16> dogmeat: you could mount it to /mnt (from a rcS.d script too)
[06:07] <BlenderKitty> jinx099: xubuntu, to be precise
[06:07] <phEight> funkdollar: i'm not sure what you by notification area
[06:07] <phEight> what you mean*
[06:08] <jinx099> BlenderKitty: With dapper, your cdrom may or may not work, also be sure you install the SMP kernel when its set up
[06:08] <Bruco16> anyone knows why i can't change grub's entries?
[06:08] <BlenderKitty> jinx099: whats SMP?
[06:08] <funkdollar> phEight, well if you right click on a panel you can insert an item called the notification area - it must be there by default
[06:08] <rjian> ie guys anyone... i need your help.. i want to put the logo of UBuntu on organization any suggestion...??
[06:08] <chotchki> hey guys im trying to install a edgy server but the installer seems to hang when i try to setup the software raid (it clams it cant see the setup partitions) does anyone know of a workaround?
[06:08] <GigaClon> wluz check that page I sent you it should have everything you need for wireless, I can't help beyond that
[06:08] <jinx099> BlenderKitty: SMP enables both cores
[06:08] <GOATSLAYER> hey guys does anyone know of a RSS desklet that can feed to my desktop? Thanks!
[06:08] <BlenderKitty> jinx099: nice!
[06:08] <phEight> ah genius
[06:08] <phEight> hehe
[06:08] <b_e_l> dogmeat: mount /dev/fd0 -t vfat /mnt/floppy
[06:08] <funkdollar> Bruco16, grub-install /dev/hda or hdb or ...
[06:08] <phEight> thanks funkdollar, appreciate it much
[06:09] <jinx099> BlenderKitty: What motherboard do you have?  (I have a C2D also)
[06:09] <bulmer> Bruco16: you are root or sudo'ed to root when modifying your menu.lst ?
[06:09] <BlenderKitty> jinx099: good question. I'm not sure. I'm on a thinkpad.
[06:09] <b_e_l> the cd to that dir and  ls
[06:09] <Flannel> jinx099, BlenderKitty, in dapper there is no "SMP" kernel, theyre both in the same kernel
[06:09] <BlenderKitty> Flannel: so I already have it?
[06:09] <Bruco16> bulmer: no, i edit it from the very beginning of the boot process
[06:09] <jinx099> Flannel: You mean edgy right?
[06:09] <Bruco16> (grub's editor)
[06:09] <Flannel> jinx099: no, dapper.  As of edgy there's no more 386/686/etc kernels, but as of Dapper there's no -smp specific kernels
[06:10] <giokim> i am trying to install flashplayer but when i do i get this error message : ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the  Macromedia Flash Player installer. does this mean there is no way for me to install it?
[06:10] <di||itante> funkdollar, try #apt-get --reinstall install packagename
[06:10] <BlenderKitty> wait, what the hell am I saying. I'm running the latest xubuntu.
[06:10] <bulmer> Bruco16: is it password protected?
[06:10] <bean__> hey guys, sorry for the kinda off-topic question here, but does anyone know how to interface plain old C code to GNU Octave?
[06:10] <Bruco16> bulmer: "of course from mennu.lst";; thx a lot lol
[06:10] <Flannel> BlenderKitty: Edgy?  Then you already have the -generic kernel, which does include SMP support
[06:10] <jinx099> Flannel: I remember having to install the SMP kernel, but maybe it just pointed to the 686 kernel
[06:10] <bean__> i tried asking in #octave and #math but to no avail
[06:10] <BlenderKitty> Flannel: cool, thanks.
[06:10] <Bruco16> bulmer: not passwd protd
[06:11] <Bruco16> bulmer: i have full root access + sudoing
[06:11] <bulmer> Bruco16: am not understanding, you can not edit your menu.lst file?
[06:11] <jinx099> BlenderKitty: At any rate, be sure you have see SMP when you do a 'uname -a' when you're up and running
[06:11] <funkdollar> di||itante, the problem is the packagename here - i dont know which ones lost files
[06:11] <BlenderKitty> jinx099: I will check now
[06:12] <BlenderKitty> jinx099: ok, its there
[06:12] <funkdollar> well i ll try this on the whole ubuntu desktop i guess
[06:12] <Bruco16> bulmer: i tried to edit it from grub, but you told me to edit it from the started OS
[06:12] <giokim> i am trying to install flashplayer but when i do i get this error message : ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the  Macromedia Flash Player installer. can anyone help me?
[06:12] <Bruco16> so there shouldn't be an editor in grub if it's useless
[06:12] <bulmer> Bruco16: thats because I was confused as to where you were when trying to edit
[06:13] <Bou> I get a "mode not supported" error when i try to run ubuntu. help please?
[06:13] <kitche> giokim: you have to use a wrapper only way
[06:13] <Bruco16> i needed to rescue my system since i remove chkroot.sh from rcS.d to gain boot time
[06:13] <BlenderKitty> Now here's another question - my screen goes blank when I go to adjust the brightness. And it doesn't come back! Can I fix this?
[06:13] <BlenderKitty> I'm on a thinkpad
[06:13] <Glod> giokim: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=327162
[06:13] <BlenderKitty> h3xis: yes, we spoke last night. :)
[06:13] <h3xis> haha
[06:13] <h3xis> BlenderKitty, however i dont have that problem
[06:13] <Bruco16> the entry was read-only and i wanted to change it to read-write
[06:13] <h3xis> :/
[06:13] <di||itante> funkdollar, you could do that, "ubuntu-desktop"
[06:14] <GOATSLAYER> hey guys does anyone know of a RSS desklet that can feed to my desktop? Thanks!
[06:14] <Bou> I get a "mode not supported" error when i try to run ubuntu. help please?
[06:14] <metal03> Hi guys, small question...  I run Edgy64 and I'm downloading video codecs...  but I have no idea what the choises I'm offered mean ( [ CH | HU | US | RS | KR ]  )???  Anyone knows?	
[06:14] <Bruco16> the rescue mode was always in readonly even grub-changed
[06:14] <BlenderKitty> h3xis: wtf
[06:14] <bulmer> Bruco16: thats going to be tuff, those buggers modify, a bit difficult to recover
[06:14] <Bou> China, hungary, US, russia and korea
[06:14] <h3xis> metal03, choose US
[06:14] <Glod> ch=swiss, hu=hungarian, us=american english etc
[06:14] <metal03> kk
[06:14] <metal03> thanks
[06:14] <Bruco16> (i couldn,t access menu.lst from os since it couldn't start ^^)
[06:14] <Bou>  get a "mode not supported" error when i try to run ubuntu. help please?
[06:14] <BlenderKitty> h3xis: how can I tell if I have power management running?
[06:15] <metal03> Glod : hehehe!!  That simple!
[06:15] <Aggort> Hey I diasbled ipV6 and now it's fast as shit, thanks
[06:15] <h3xis> BlenderKitty, youve got it running
[06:15] <BlenderKitty> h3xis: automatic?
[06:15] <verdRousseau> i am trying to install this login window and it says to drop it into the gdmsetup tool
[06:15] <verdRousseau> where is that?
[06:15] <h3xis> BlenderKitty, it's just built in
[06:15] <bulmer> Bruco16: boot using liveCD and then mount your drive and recover it that way
[06:15] <BlenderKitty> h3xis: thats good. how about hard disk protection?
[06:15] <Bruco16> bulmer: is chkroot.sh and chkfs.sh really necessary at boot time?
[06:15] <hype> http://kmwarren.imarichkid.hop.clickbank.net
[06:16] <Bruco16> bulmer: that's what i finally did
[06:16] <bulmer> Bruco16: I dont know they even exist as part of the boot scripts..
[06:16] <h3xis> BlenderKitty, that im not sure. i run a custom built kernel (2.6.19.1) and inside of the configuration you can specify the active hard disk protection, as i have done, however knowing you run ubuntu on a stock kernel i doubt you have it
[06:16] <Bruco16> bulmer: yeah, in /etc/rcS.d i think
[06:16] <Glod> oh...ch is china?^^
[06:16] <BlenderKitty> h3xis: crap
[06:16] <Bruco16> bulmer: or in /etc/init.d/
[06:16] <metal03> Glod : I still clicked on US
[06:16] <Bruco16> i thought it was wasting time
[06:17] <bulmer> Bruco16: i dont know, anyhow, from liveCD you're attempting to recover?
[06:17] <Bhaskar> h3xis: i delete FAT data from ubuntu, how can i recover??
[06:17] <Glod> i think ch would be a bit too confusing^^
[06:17] <Bou-kun> I get a "mode not supported" error when i try to run ubuntu. help please?
[06:17] <verdRousseau> anyone know where the gdmsetup tool is
[06:17] <wluz> I get a whole string of errors when trying to do "make install" in ndiswrapper-1.34, culminating in "make[1]  : *** [loadndisdriver]  Error 1" and Error 2.  Anyone know what that means?
[06:18] <Bruco16> bulmer: i already recovered from the changes. I wanted to make my system put the splash screen on, or at least quit the quiet mode
[06:18] <BlenderKitty> h3xis: how can I check to see that power management is indeed running?
[06:18] <BlenderKitty> h3xis: my battery seems to drain a lot faster than in windows
[06:18] <Bruco16> bulmer: i also tried recompiling another new kernel, but i'm a newby still hug^^
[06:18] <bulmer> Bruco16: okay..me too am always a newbie
[06:18] <h3xis> BlenderKitty, ermmmm my guess would be to run top in terminal and look around for the acpi daemon or whatever it's called
[06:19] <Bruco16> bulmer: :) i want that my sister doesn't feel like her system is freezing at boot time
[06:19] <Bou-kun> I get a "mode not supported" error when i try to run ubuntu. help please?
[06:19] <Bruco16> bulmer: for now, all appears is a cursor
[06:19] <Flannel> wluz: you're on edgy?  you might need to change the shebang to point to bash instead of sh
[06:19] <Asturio> hi there
[06:19] <Bruco16> bulmer: on My PC, the splash shows
[06:19] <BlenderKitty> h3xis: how about kacpi?
[06:20] <h3xis> BlenderKitty, good enough
[06:20] <Bruco16> bulmer: but not on my sister's one
[06:20] <bulmer> Bruco16: since you already have recovered the important data, you may as well re-install
[06:20] <wluz> Flannel: sorry, I don't know what that means
[06:20] <BlenderKitty> h3xis: is that KDE?
[06:20] <BlenderKitty> h3xis: that really sucks if it is
[06:20] <h3xis> BlenderKitty, that or "kernel"
[06:20] <Bruco16> I just installed it 1 week ago ^^
[06:20] <BlenderKitty> h3xis: I'm going to pretend its "kernel"
[06:20] <Flannel> wluz: open it in a text editor, the first line of the file will be #! /bin/sh  change it to /bin/bash
[06:20] <bulmer> Bruco16: thats even better, not much data is in it..so re-install
[06:21] <wluz> ok, will try that
[06:21] <h3xis> BlenderKitty, okay
[06:21] <Bruco16> bulmer: ok, so then you think the "normal" splash would appear?
[06:21] <Asturio> Hi, does anybody here uses the Gnubiff Applet in Gnome
[06:21] <h3xis> BlenderKitty, how many hours do you get off of a fully charged battery
[06:21] <bulmer> Bruco16: upon re-install..I would think it would
[06:22] <Bruco16> bulmer: i'll try that out, thx bud :)
[06:22] <BlenderKitty> h3xis: in windows, about 2 with regular usage. I have a 4 cell.
[06:22] <bulmer> np
[06:22] <BlenderKitty> h3xis: still testing under linux
[06:22] <h3xis> BlenderKitty, yuck :<
[06:22] <wluz> Flannel: sorry again, which file do you mean?
[06:23] <BlenderKitty> h3xis: but it seems like it's burning up a bit faster. Is that normal for linux? Or does linux in fact have equal or better power mangement?
[06:23] <BlenderKitty> BlenderKitty: and am I going crazy (a distinct possibility)?
[06:23] <variant> BlenderKitty: it really depends on the acpi implementation
[06:23] <varsendaggr> BlenderKitty, i like blender
[06:23] <h3xis> BlenderKitty, well, in windows if i run off the battery it reports 4:30 hours. in linux it reports it as 2:30-3 and i have no idea which is right and ive never tested it out so youre guess is as good as mine
[06:24] <FYI> anyone know a cool way to convert ogg to gif
[06:24] <FYI> small files
[06:24] <FYI> that I would like to convert to GIF
[06:24] <variant> BlenderKitty: imo, when acpi is properly implemented gnu/linux wins hands down. if it is a borked implementation (like a lot of laptops have) then windows generaly handles it better (there is a very good reason for that - microsoft wrote the specification with others then actualy put it into use in a purposfuly broken way)
[06:24] <Flannel> FYI: ogg to gif?  you sure that's what you want?
[06:24] <Glod> so anyone available, who can help me with my grub problem?
[06:25] <Flannel> wluz: your makefile
[06:25] <Flannel> !anyone | Glod
[06:25] <ubotu> Glod: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:25] <variant> FYI: use mplayer/mencoder to dump it to frames and jpg2gif to make it a gif
[06:25] <Glod> i did^^
[06:25] <BlenderKitty> variant: I'm on a thinkpad. wonder what that means for me.
[06:25] <Glod> it started with "does..." and ended with my question^^
[06:25] <Glod> well never mind
[06:25] <FYI> ubotu: I'm sure you're a nice guy, but does it matter? Is a stick that far up your ass?
[06:26] <FYI> haha
[06:26] <FYI> it's a bot
[06:26] <FYI> go figure
[06:26] <variant> BlenderKitty: thinkpads (most versions) have excellent gnu/linux acpi support
[06:26] <Quark_> I thought ogg was sound
[06:26] <BlenderKitty> variant: I was hoping so. Thats why I bought one.
[06:26] <FYI> video too :)... very good quality
[06:26] <Glod> i copied my ubuntu to another partition on another harddrive and (as my cdrom isnt working), dont have a clue, how i could update grub there
[06:26] <variant> BlenderKitty: heh, i wanted one too but the most expensive ones are not available in ireland ;(
[06:26] <FYI> variant: thanks for the help btw
[06:26] <wluz> Flannel: The makefile in the directory doesnt have anything like that, and the makefile in the subdirectory starts with some variable about DESTDIR
[06:27] <BlenderKitty> variant: I just got a z61t
[06:27] <variant> FYI: yw
[06:27] <variant> BlenderKitty: does it have the accelerometer?
[06:27] <BlenderKitty> variant: yeah
[06:27] <BlenderKitty> variant: it's more consumer oriented. was the first of the widescreen thinkpads.
[06:28] <variant> BlenderKitty: awsome, you can script it under gnu/linux.. for example: tap on the lid a certain number of times in a certain order and perform certain actions hehe
[06:28] <BlenderKitty> variant: but it is built sturdily.
[06:28] <variant> certainly is
[06:28] <BlenderKitty> variant: oh, that is cool
[06:28] <Flannel> wluz: alright, thats not your problem then.
[06:28] <wluz> I could post the errors
[06:28] <varsendaggr> hey there i only have two resolutions availible form xrandr   but i just did dpk-reconfigure xserver and it let me save the larger files....   i am using horay for right now...   how do i get the larger resolution.
[06:28] <jinx099> variant: That would be pretty sweet
[06:28] <variant> BlenderKitty: yeah, you could be on the train and slap the lid and have it say "OW" on the speakers :D
[06:28] <Glod> i could update it using the ubuntu on the old drive, but as it seems to me, grub wouldnt accept that, because the old drive (hda) is drive 0 and the new drive (sda) is drive 1...so if i updated grub and removed hda, sda would be drive 0.....and thats the problem ive got
[06:29] <BlenderKitty> variant: I need that feature.
[06:29] <variant> BlenderKitty: you have it
[06:29] <variant> BlenderKitty: let me get you link
[06:29] <BlenderKitty> variant: please dp
[06:29] <BlenderKitty> variant: do
[06:29] <spasti>  centos 159 vs 925 ubuntu
[06:30] <Flannel> wluz: why are you compiling ndiswrapper anyway?
[06:30] <variant> BlenderKitty: note that this is actualy an ibm site (what a cool company ;)): http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-knockage.html
[06:30] <wluz> Flannel: I can't find a .deb
[06:30] <wluz> Im following the wiki
[06:30] <Glod> and since ubotu is a bot and wont help me, i hope that someone else does
[06:30] <Flannel> wluz: er, which wiki page?
[06:30] <BlenderKitty> variant: yeah, I really like the IBM developer center website too. Just good stuff.
[06:31] <wluz> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation#Compile_and_install
[06:31] <variant> BlenderKitty: yes, it's an superb site actualy
[06:31] <Flannel> wluz: ah.  Try the ubuntu one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper  (ndiswrapper is in the ubuntu repositories)
[06:31] <MTecknology> anybody in here that's really bored and wants to teach mye the absolute basics of programming in c++ ?
[06:32] <BrettMeister> Just installed Ubuntu 6.10 on my IBM Thinkpad...wow!  I'm really impressed!
[06:32] <variant> BlenderKitty: knock gently on lid "hello? is someone there?" slap harder "ARRRGH HELP!!!" hahaha
[06:32] <metal03> OMG...  I need help installing codecs for Mplayer...  The README file says to place them in a directory that doesn't exists : "/usr/local/lib/codecs/" and even if I wanna create that directory, says I can't
[06:32] <wluz> Flannel: will try that, thanks
[06:32] <variant> BlenderKitty: the possibilities are endless
[06:32] <BlenderKitty> variant: wow. this *is* cool. the practical implications are quite nice. double tap to lock your screen? sweet.
[06:33] <variant> BlenderKitty: I prefer the endless comedy options he he
[06:33] <BlenderKitty> variant: I will probably do both
[06:34] <Quark_> metal: Did you try to make the directory as root?
[06:34] <Flannel> Glod: you have two drives, and you migrating to a new one?
[06:34] <variant> BlenderKitty: I think I just re-convinced myself to get one
[06:34] <BlenderKitty> variant: consider the T60 widescreen!
[06:34] <metal03> Quark_ : Since I don't really know how to do that...  I'll be forced to say...  no!
[06:34] <BlenderKitty> variant: that's what I would have gotten
[06:34] <variant> BlenderKitty: wanted the best t60p but cant get them here
[06:35] <BlenderKitty> variant: why not?
[06:35] <variant> BlenderKitty: anyway, we are a bit off-topic here. Dunno, the main site only ships to the US and the irish resellers don't stock the top of the line models
[06:35] <Quark_> metal, type this in a terminal: sudo mkdir /usr/local/lib/codecs
[06:36] <riotkittie> i missed it so :P
[06:36] <variant> BlenderKitty: a nice use would be "slap to rotate xgl desktop"
[06:36] <BlenderKitty> variant: too bad. this is my first thinkpad, and I'm totally in love. The other thinkpads should be quite decent though. Keyboards are the best in the business!
[06:36] <KNY> where is the config file for the "Remote Desktop" utility?
[06:36] <BlenderKitty> variant: yes, that too. I saw that on youtube once.
[06:36] <KNY> and/or how can I configure that via SSH?
[06:37] <riotkittie> i need a new laptop kb :\
[06:37] <fatlip> quick question..in xorg.conf -- the device configuration: "PCI:1:0:0" -- what's what? if my card has two outputs, how do i specify one over the other? 1:0:0 and 1:0:1?
[06:37] <jinx099> KNY: you mean VNC?
[06:37] <KNY> jinx099,
[06:37] <KNY> jinx099, yes *
[06:38] <KNY> I have installed vncserver but my connections get refused
[06:38] <jinx099> KNY: Its in .vnc/xstartup IIRC
[06:38] <KNY> hmm
[06:38] <KNY> I'll look around
[06:38] <variant> KNY: did you start vncserver?
[06:38] <jinx099> KNY: connections get refused?
[06:39] <metal03> Quark_ : That created the directory, but I still can't transfer files there...  unless I do a sudo "something" command I guess!!  But I'm not familiar with those!
[06:39] <dogmeat> in dmesg log i see Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M, but no /dev/fd0 exists
[06:39] <metal03> Anyways I can unlock the windows mode?
[06:39] <dogmeat> which is my floppy device?
[06:39] <MacSlow> anybody tried to updat libc6, libc6-i668, glibc-doc and tzdata today?
[06:39] <str0ng> hello.. does dvd version of the ubuntu installer includes all the packages?
[06:39] <dthacker> using gtkpod, how do you move songs from the computer to the ipod?
[06:39] <KNY> variant, yes
[06:40] <KNY> jinx099, vncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused
[06:40] <variant> BlenderKitty: i just thought of annother one.. if you leave it alone for a while it could start screaming if somone picks it up ahahahaha omg
[06:41] <Peebo> Ok I'm struggling with X again. How do I get a DivX codec and make it work with Gnome
[06:41] <KNY> Peebo, just use VLC :)
[06:41] <BlenderKitty> variant: oh totally. I have people at work who always mess with my stuff...
[06:41] <variant> KNY: yeah, apt-get install vlc and your away with every codec
[06:41] <MacSlow> that update somehow messed up libc6-dev (was reported to be defective), removed that (and a whole bunch of related dependencies) and now the update isn't done
[06:42] <Peebo> Even VLC needs a codec first
[06:42] <Quark_> metal: Ok, I'm not quite sure about this, but if you do "sudo nautilus" you might be able to transfer files easily (point-and-click); see if that works first
[06:42] <KNY> Peebo, yeah? try it :)
[06:42] <variant> Quark_: it's better to use gksudo for graphical applications
[06:42] <variant> Peebo: it comes with them all
[06:42] <KNY> Peebo, I've never had a codec issue
[06:42] <KNY> (with VLC)
[06:43] <priya> hi
[06:43] <Peebo> I have gXine, Xine, mplayer and VLC none of them play Divx
[06:43] <priya> i am getting error
[06:43] <variant> Peebo: i assure you that divx is supported by vlc
[06:43] <Quark_> thx variant
[06:43] <variant> Peebo: what error?
[06:43] <priya> while giving ruby setup.rb
[06:44] <priya> the error ir
[06:44] <priya> root@Priya:/home/priya/rubygems-0.8.11# ruby setup.rb
[06:44] <priya> ---> bin
[06:44] <priya> <--- bin
[06:44] <priya> ---> lib
[06:44] <priya> ---> lib/rubygems
[06:44] <priya> <--- lib/rubygems
[06:44] <priya> <--- lib
[06:44] <priya> ---> bin
[06:44] <priya> adjusting shebang: gem_mirror
[06:44] <priya> <--- bin
[06:44] <priya> ---> lib
[06:44] <priya> ---> lib/rubygems
[06:44] <priya> <--- lib/rubygems
[06:44] <priya> <--- lib
[06:44] <priya> rm -f InstalledFiles
[06:44] <priya> ---> bin
[06:44] <priya> mkdir -p /usr/local/bin/
[06:44] <priya> install gemwhich /usr/local/bin/
[06:44] <priya> install gem /usr/local/bin/
[06:44] <priya> install gem_server /usr/local/bin/
[06:44] <variant> great job priya
[06:44] <priya> install generate_yaml_index.rb /usr/local/bin/
[06:44] <priya> install update_rubygems /usr/local/bin/
[06:44] <priya> install gem_mirror /usr/local/bin/
[06:44] <priya> <--- bin
[06:44] <Peebo> variant, The only player to give me an error is Totem,   Could not determine type of stream.
[06:44] <variant> priya: do not flood the channel
[06:44] <priya> ---> lib
[06:44] <priya> mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/
[06:44] <priya> install ubygems.rb /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/
[06:45] <priya> install rubygems.rb /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/
[06:45] <priya> install gemconfigure.rb /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/
[06:45] <priya> ---> lib/rubygems
[06:45] <variant> priya: so if you open it in vlc what happens?
[06:45] <priya> mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems
[06:45] <priya> install specification.rb /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems
[06:45] <priya> install builder.rb /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems
[06:45] <priya> install command.rb /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems
[06:45] <priya> install config_file.rb /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems
[06:45] <priya> install custom_require.rb /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems
[06:45] <priya> install doc_manager.rb /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems
[06:45] <variant> !op
[06:45] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[06:45] <priya> install format.rb /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems
[06:45] <priya> install cmd_manager.rb /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems
[06:45] <priya> install gem_runner.rb /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems
[06:45] <priya> install installer.rb /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems
[06:45] <theflyingfool> how, do i set the volume keys on my keyboard to affect the volume setting i want
[06:45] <variant> Hobbsee: thanks
[06:45] <Hobbsee> !paste > priya
[06:46] <Hobbsee> gosh...
[06:46] <Peebo> variant, The only player to give me an error is Totem,   Could not determine type of stream.
[06:46] <variant> is that the best way to summon an op in that situation?
[06:46] <variant> Peebo: right, and what happens if you open it in vlc?
[06:46] <nalioth> variant: that is one way
[06:46] <Hobbsee> var
[06:46] <Hobbsee> variant: yeah...
[06:46] <Faithful> how do you check a swap partition for bad sectors?
[06:47] <variant> i will try the magic summoning sword next time
[06:47] <priya> hi
[06:47] <Ubuntu_Idiot> hello
[06:47] <Quark_> heya
[06:47] <Peebo> variant,  vlc pretends to play it but there is no video and no sound.
[06:47] <priya> someone understand my problem
[06:47] <variant> Peebo: perhaps the file is broken then
[06:47] <Hobbsee> priya: please read the /topic and paste in the pastebin, not the main channel.
[06:47] <Chetwin> I'm having trouble reading my 2gb sd card.  What can I do, anyone?
[06:47] <Peebo> variant, The file is perfect Windoze plays it no problem
[06:48] <priya> No library stubs found.
[06:48] <Ubuntu_Idiot> can someone help me with my wireless problem?
[06:48] <variant> Peebo: run "file /path/to/file.avi" and tell me what the output is
[06:48] <priya> error while try to compile ruby setup.rb
[06:49] <deebu> anyone here tried Zenwalk??
[06:49] <theflyingfool> does anyone nkow how i can get the extra keys on my keyboard working properly
[06:49] <odi3> Why when i mount a drive using fstab, it adds 2 entries into mtab? anyone know how to fix?
[06:50] <Ubuntu_Idiot> can anyone see what I'm typing?
[06:50] <Quark_> I can see it
[06:50] <Ubuntu_Idiot> oh okay
[06:50] <odi3> dunno, what are you typing?
[06:50] <Ubuntu_Idiot> at least i can get irc working in ubuntu
[06:50] <priya> anyone see mine probs
[06:50] <Peebo> variant, setgid sticky data
[06:50] <elkbuntu> priya is this for ruby on rails?
[06:50] <priya> ya
[06:50] <elkbuntu> priya, try asking in #rubyonrails then
[06:50] <elkbuntu> they're the gurus :)
[06:50] <variant> Peebo: that really is not a valid media file
[06:51] <odi3> anyone that is complete noob with ubuntu, i recommend installing automatix2
[06:51] <varsendaggr> odi3, no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:51] <Peebo> variant, It's not on a local file system
[06:51] <odi3> its a script that will give u menu to install a bunch of common software
[06:51] <motiv_studenta> hello
[06:51] <motiv_studenta> problem
[06:51] <variant> Peebo: ah, try downloading the file first then
[06:51] <odi3> varsendaggr, why not?
[06:51] <motiv_studenta> easy english
[06:51] <Ubuntu_Idiot> the network manager in windows constantly scans for wireless networks and displays them, is the utility "network-manager-gnome" in ubuntu the same thing?
[06:51] <Peebo> variant, All the other non-divx files play fine from the same location
[06:51] <priya> is here no one can help me
[06:52] <variant> Peebo: try it anyway
[06:52] <`paul> how can i view YM avatars with gaim? is there a way?
[06:52] <odi3> dunno ubuntu
[06:52] <Chetwin> Ubuntu wont read my sd card
[06:52] <Chetwin> And help?
[06:52] <odi3> i use "iwscan list" to see available wireless networks
[06:52] <elkbuntu> priya, it seems people who can help with RoR are busy. however when i set up RoR, i asked in #rubyonrails and they helped me alot
[06:52] <priya> elkbuntu where should i ask  for #rubyonrails
[06:53] <Ubuntu_Idiot> iwscan list?
[06:53] <theflyingfool> myspacekeydied
[06:53] <motiv_studenta> apache-configure charset WINDOWS-1251. POST query send UTF-8(data-WINDOWS-1251)
[06:53] <elkbuntu> priya, type /join #rubyonrails here on freenode
[06:53] <Ubuntu_Idiot> i'll look into it
[06:53] <Peebo> variant, copying 700Meg Divx from file server. Even if it does work I will still need a fix for the issue
[06:53] <Chetwin> !sdcard
[06:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sdcard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:53] <odi3> iwscan list
[06:53] <odi3> oops
[06:53] <Chetwin> !flashcard
[06:53] <odi3> hahha oops
[06:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashcard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:53] <variant> Peebo: what kinda of file server is it?
[06:53] <odi3> meant iwlist scan
[06:53] <Peebo> Windoze 2003 AD
[06:54] <odi3> iwlist scan shows all local wifi networks
[06:54] <variant> Peebo: and you connect via samba
[06:54] <Ubuntu_Idiot> thats a terminal command right?
[06:54] <odi3> yea
[06:54] <theflyingfool> how_do_i_get_my_spacebar_working_again_it_randomly_stopped_working
[06:54] <motiv_studenta> how make POST query charset WINDOWS-1251?
[06:54] <Peebo> variant, How else, my Ubuntu box is a member server on the domain
[06:55] <Flannel> theflyingfool: does it work anywhere?  like grub? or anything?
[06:55] <odi3> Why when i mount a drive using fstab, it adds 2 entries into mtab? anyone know how to fix?
[06:55] <theflyingfool> it_was_working_up_til_about_a_minute_again
[06:55] <asdf_> how do I get usb drives and sd cards to work under ubuntu? (by "work" I mean access files on them); actually, not a usb drive; but a camera conected via a usb port; "mount" does not seem to show the device mounted -- and I thoguth ubuntu would do all this automatically
[06:56] <variant> Peebo: well, i dont know what the error is. open a terminal and try playing the file with mplayer (not gmplayer) it will hopefully put some debug info to the terminal for us
[06:56] <Peebo> variant, As I guessed It shouldn't have and didn't make any difference copying it to the local file system
[06:56] <variant> Peebo: that was quick.. even for a lan
[06:56] <Flannel> theflyingfool: right, but does it only not work in a GUI? what we're trying to figure out is if it's software or hardware.  Will it work editing a grub entry (within grub, hit escape, hit e type space, etc).  If not, then I imagine it's hardware.  Take apart your keyboard, clean it, etc etc
[06:56] <variant> Peebo: and it can make all the difference
[06:57] <variant> Peebo: you got a fast upload?
[06:57] <variant> Peebo: make the file available to me, i garuantee i will max out your connection
[06:57] <fokuslee> trying to compile kiba-dock from cvs get this error any idea?
[06:57] <fokuslee> configure.in:30: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_PROG_LIBTOOL
[06:57] <theflyingfool> without_rebooting_how_can_i_check_if_it_works_outside_the_gui
[06:58] <Flannel> theflyingfool: ctrl-alt-f1 will get you a real terminal, ctrl-alt-f7 gets you back to the GUI.  but that still might have the same issues, as youre going through linux
[06:58] <Flannel> theflyingfool: the same software issues, that is.
[06:58] <Peebo> variant, no my upload is shite 128K
[06:58] <addams> Can I get youtube to work on Ubuntu ?
[06:58] <theflyingfool> it_works_terminal
[06:59] <Peebo> variant, How do I paste a 30 line of output
[06:59] <KNY> addams, with Flash 9, yes
[06:59] <KNY> Peebo, /topic #ubuntu
[06:59] <Peebo> variant, let me see if I can find a smaller file that will not play
[06:59] <variant> Peebo: pastebin
[06:59] <theflyingfool> it_is_dead_in_all_of_gnome_though
[07:00] <odi3> ooooohh! thanks flannel, i never knew about ctrl alt f1
[07:00] <priya> elkbuntu thank u
[07:00] <Flannel> theflyingfool: alright, well, at least now you know its a software thing, and X>=  as for fixing it, I... have no idea.
[07:00] <elkbuntu> priya, no problem :)
[07:00] <odi3> Why when i mount a drive using fstab, it adds 2 entries into mtab? anyone know how to fix?
[07:00] <Flannel> odi3: works for all f1-f6, and f7 gets you back to your GUI
[07:00] <priya> elkbuntu it ask to register
[07:01] <priya> elkbuntu how to register
[07:01] <elkbuntu> priya, type /msg nickserv help register
[07:01] <elkbuntu> !register
[07:01] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[07:01] <elkbuntu> and that link might help too :)
[07:02] <theflyingfool> i restarted X and its back
[07:02] <theflyingfool> is there a way to get the default keyboard shortcuts back, i killed all of them thinking that may be the problem
[07:03] <theflyingfool> and thanks for the ctrl+alt+f1 and f7 thing
[07:03] <Ubuntu_Idiot> messed with my wifi and got booted...
[07:03] <variant> theflyingfool: those are just virtual terminals.. there are more (as many as you want)
[07:04] <Peebo> variant, check it out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/917/
[07:04] <theflyingfool> i knew about that on a sever box but i didnt know it worked with a gui
[07:04] <Ubuntu_Idiot> okay i tried iwlist scan and it works great, is there a gui program that does the same thing?
[07:05] <theflyingfool> is it possible to get back the default keyboard shortcuts
[07:05] <variant> Peebo: try with mplayer --forceidx
[07:05] <variant> Peebo: or just --idx actualy
[07:05] <variant> or -idx ... i can never remember
[07:05] <Stravad> so I'm running into this bug:   https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsdl1.2/+bug/66217
[07:05] <priya> elkbuntu it says already registered
[07:06] <Stravad> It says it's fixed in feisty
[07:06] <Stravad> how do I pull that fix into my edgy installation?
[07:06] <Ubuntu_Idiot> i tried using network manager and it doesnt seem to scan for networks
[07:06] <priya> elkbuntu i tried someother name i says already registered priya
[07:06] <whichway> hello
[07:06] <fokuslee> configure.in:30: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_PROG_LIBTOOL while trying to make kiba-dock any ideas?
[07:06] <Peebo> variant, hang on I may have screwed up. There are two similarly named files Windoze sorted them in a different order, I need to check this file on the windoze box.
[07:07] <whichway> What is the name of the (non official) version of ubuntu that includes proprietary stuff?
[07:07] <variant> whichway: ubuntu includes proprietry stuff
[07:07] <theflyingfool> linuxmint
[07:07] <theflyingfool> whichway: linuxmint
[07:07] <whichway> theflyingfool: THANK YOU
[07:07] <variant> whichway: there is gnusense that does _not_ include the proprietry stuff
[07:08] <Peebo> variant, my apologies. The file I have been trying to play is corrupted.
[07:08] <jrsims> you know, xubuntu should really be the only distro offered. it's so polished!
[07:08] <whichway> no, i want the propietary stuff. im not a purist
[07:08] <Ubuntu_Idiot> is there a program available that scans for wireless networks and then allows me to connect directly through the program?
[07:08] <Peebo> variant, I'll find another Divx to make sure I can play them.
[07:09] <theflyingfool> can someone publish the default keyboard shortcuts of edgy... so i can manually reset me :(
[07:09] <Ubuntu_Idiot> can anyone help me?
[07:10] <whichway> yes, idiot?
[07:10] <mneptok> Ubuntu_Idiot: sudo aptitude install network-manager-gnome
[07:10] <Moosejaw> hey all...
[07:10] <Peebo> variant, Well there you go. My fave video "The Worlds Greatest Rally cars" is kaput, at least this copy. I'll have is somewhere else on my 2003 box
[07:10] <Moosejaw> like always i messed up my perfect install of beryl/xgl...
[07:10] <Moosejaw> and cant seem to figure out how to get it working again
[07:11] <Ubuntu_Idiot> thank you mneptok, i'll try network manager again. I used it earlier and it didnt seem to display any wireless networks
[07:11] <Moosejaw> it started by updating my fglrx
[07:11] <Moosejaw> can someone help me?
[07:11] <Peebo> variant, I have just over a terra byte of storage on the Windoze server, not counting the 80gigs allocated to the system
[07:11] <theflyingfool> how do i enable the extra buttons on my mouse
[07:11] <Ubuntu_Idiot> although...when i installed it earlier, it said network manager was version 0.6. something
[07:11] <Ubuntu_Idiot> is that normal?
[07:13] <Ubuntu_Idiot> okay i've installed network manager gnome
[07:13] <Ubuntu_Idiot> what do i do now?
[07:13] <Ubuntu_Idiot> i cant find it in the tool bar
[07:14] <Ubuntu_Idiot> im so lost and confused!
[07:15] <n2diy> theflyingfool: check out man loadkeys
[07:16] <rixth> Hey guys, I'm geting "mount: /dev/sdb  already mounted or busy". Well, it's not mounted, I tried "lsof | grep sdb" to try and find out what out what was using it but I couldnt see anything...
[07:16] <Ubuntu_Idiot> i think im going to toss my laptop out the window
[07:18] <cowbud> Ubuntu_Idiot: why is that?
[07:18] <Ubuntu_Idiot> i've installed network manager
[07:18] <Ubuntu_Idiot> through the terminal
[07:18] <lyml> Ello folks, when I log in I get the error message: The NetworkManager applet could not find some required resources.  It cannot continue. And very well, I got no network manager :)
[07:18] <Peebo> Ok Peebo's IRC channel intelligence test.    If I said the BEST piece of TV ever made didn't even get to the end of it's first season before it got canned, what you be your answers.  This is for everyone!
[07:18] <Ubuntu_Idiot> where do i find the program i've just installed?
[07:18] <KNY> Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed'
[07:18] <theflyingfool> loadkeys didnt give me the info i need :( its a sad day
[07:18] <cowbud> Ubuntu_Idiot: what did you install?
[07:18] <KNY> what package needs to be installed?
[07:18] <Ubuntu_Idiot> network manager
[07:18] <cowbud> Ubuntu_Idiot: did you install the gnome part of it also?
[07:19] <Ubuntu_Idiot> umm...
[07:19] <n2diy> theflyingfool: I just checked in, so I missed what you are looking for?
[07:19] <variant> Peebo: i knew it
[07:19] <riotkittie> Peebo: my answer would be *
[07:19] <Ubuntu_Idiot> i installed network manager gnome
[07:19] <Ubuntu_Idiot> and nothing else
[07:19] <cowbud> Ubuntu_Idiot: aptitude install network-manager-gnome
[07:19] <cowbud> yah
[07:19] <cowbud> that is fine
[07:19] <riotkittie> and as thats a wildcard, im right ;p
[07:19] <Ubuntu_Idiot> i didnt install network manager though
[07:19] <Ubuntu_Idiot> are they two seperate packages?
[07:19] <riotkittie> brb
[07:20] <cowbud> Ubuntu_Idiot: so do a dpkg -L network-manager-gnome | grep bin and see what you get
[07:20] <theflyingfool> the default keyboard shortcuts for edgy, the ones edited under preferences i ... lost mine...
[07:20] <Peebo> riotkittie, You and me are the only ones to watch TV dewd
[07:20] <Ubuntu_Idiot> /usr/bin
[07:20] <Ubuntu_Idiot> /usr/bin/nm-vpn-properties
[07:20] <Ubuntu_Idiot> /usr/bin/nm-applet
[07:20] <mneptok> Ubuntu_Idiot: log out. back in. look for the panel applet
[07:21] <Ubuntu_Idiot> thats what it returned
[07:21] <n2diy> theflyingfool: sudo loadkeys default?
[07:21] <cowbud> Ubuntu_Idiot: so run nm-applet
[07:21] <cowbud> and you will see it in the corner
[07:21] <kyncani> !wifi | Ubuntu_Idiot
[07:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu_Idiot: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:21] <cowbud> or wherever your taskbar bob is
[07:21] <Ubuntu_Idiot> bash: run: command not found
[07:21] <theflyingfool> findkeymap: No such file or directory
[07:21] <Peebo> riotkittie, If you had to pick, think SCI-FI
[07:21] <cowbud> uh
[07:21] <cowbud> Ubuntu_Idiot: nm-applet
[07:21] <cowbud> not found?
[07:22] <n2diy> theflyingfool: was your last directed at me?
[07:22] <Ubuntu_Idiot> okay there it goes
[07:22] <Ubuntu_Idiot> a little icon popped  up
[07:22] <theflyingfool> yes, or anyone thats reading it
[07:22] <Ubuntu_Idiot> this is where i got stuck before
[07:22] <theflyingfool> n2diy: yes*
[07:22] <Ubuntu_Idiot> what do i do now?
[07:22] <cowbud> Ubuntu_Idiot: what do you want to do?
[07:22] <n2diy> theflyingfool: thank you. :)
[07:23] <Ubuntu_Idiot> give me a list of available networks in the area and allow me to choose one
[07:23] <Skelator> hi, what happened to the System->Administration->Disks feature in Edgy?
[07:23] <cowbud> Ubuntu_Idiot: is your wireless card setup correctly?
[07:23] <Ubuntu_Idiot> umm...
[07:23] <n2diy> theflyingfool: what about system/pref/keyboard?
[07:23] <Ubuntu_Idiot> im connected right now
[07:23] <Ubuntu_Idiot> through my wireless
[07:23] <Ubuntu_Idiot> on the laptop running ubuntu
[07:23] <cowbud> Ubuntu_Idiot: ok so all you should have to do is click on the icon that popped up and you should see the networks for your wireless
[07:23] <Ubuntu_Idiot> but the network manager says no network connection
[07:23] <Ubuntu_Idiot> which confuses me
[07:24] <theflyingfool> n2diy /sys?/pref/keyboard?
[07:24] <Ubuntu_Idiot> it shows a little red triangle with an exclaimation mark
[07:24] <cowbud> Ubuntu_Idiot: yah well it is probably due to network manager being lame on the startup I bet if you reboot (which isn't the only way to fix this but the easiest way) it will fix your issue
[07:24] <Ubuntu_Idiot> okay
[07:24] <n2diy> theflyingfool: yes, your in X right?
[07:24] <variant> Ubuntu_Idiot: log out instead
[07:24] <Ubuntu_Idiot> i guess i'll be right back then
[07:24] <theflyingfool> yup
[07:24] <bean> hi, does anyone know how to compile a c program into a .so library?
[07:24] <variant> Ubuntu_Idiot: dont reboot
[07:24] <Ubuntu_Idiot> okay
[07:24] <theflyingfool> n2diy: yes
[07:24] <Ubuntu_Idiot> i'll log out
[07:24] <lyml> seeing as we're talking about the network manager
[07:24] <cowbud> variant: hrmm
[07:24] <variant> Ubuntu_Idiot: run /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:24] <variant> Ubuntu_Idiot: in a terminal
[07:24] <lyml> i got a bunch of errors starting it
[07:25] <variant> Ubuntu_Idiot: with sudo
[07:25] <lyml> first when i start up: The NetworkManager applet could not find some required resources.  It cannot continue.
[07:25] <Ubuntu_Idiot> okay
[07:25] <cowbud> variant: and what does that have to do with restarting dbus/network manager?
[07:25] <KNY> Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' -- what do I need to install to fix this?
[07:25] <theflyingfool> n2diy: not seeing a pref folder in /sys
[07:25] <n2diy> theflyingfool: so click on system/pref/keyboard?
[07:25] <variant> cowbud: sorry, i miss understood. thought he couldnt get it in the panel or somthing. but to fix that all he need do is run /etc/init.d/networking restart instead
[07:25] <theflyingfool> n2diy: nvm
[07:25] <lyml> and when i try to start it through the terminal, i get:
[07:25] <lyml> ** (nm-applet:10652): WARNING **: Icon nm-vpn-lock missing: Icon 'nm-vpn-lock' not present in theme
[07:25] <lyml> (nm-applet:10652): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
[07:26] <n2diy> theflyingfool: nvm?
[07:26] <theflyingfool> n2diy: nevermind i found what you where talking about
[07:26] <cowbud> variant: no cause that would just restart ifup shit, we are doing network-manager stuff
[07:26] <theflyingfool> n2diy: i was thinking file browser not the menus
[07:26] <Pr0ph3t> Is there a amd64 version of ubuntu ?
[07:26] <Skelator> yes there's a 64 bit
[07:26] <n2diy> theflyingfool: 10-4
[07:26] <Ubuntu_Idiot> so i should restart or log out?
[07:26] <cowbud> Ubuntu_Idiot: restart
[07:27] <Ubuntu_Idiot> or type long strings into terminal : )
[07:27] <Ubuntu_Idiot> okay
[07:27] <Ubuntu_Idiot> brb
[07:27] <variant> cowbud: logging out would stop the network manager applet (it doesnt run as a system service) and restarting netowrking would as you say stop/start the interface card
[07:27] <wehugheog> hello
[07:27] <cowbud> variant: logging out would stop the nm-applet but not the nm backend daemon
[07:27] <theflyingfool> n2diy: keyboard shortcuts are still gone, i guess im just sol
[07:27] <Skelator> Prophet ->http://ubuntu-releases.datahop.it/6.06/
[07:27] <Pr0ph3t> Skelator ok thanks
[07:28] <Skelator> you're welcome
[07:28] <wehugheog> basic question: is there a linux distribution that I can use for a t60p and run from CD only wthat will support all hardware?
[07:28] <n2diy> theflyingfool: go to layouts, and reset defaults.
[07:28] <Schalken> wehugheog: whats a t60p?
[07:28] <wehugheog> Lenovo t60p
[07:29] <wehugheog> I have absolutely NO clue about linux so...
[07:29] <Ubuntu_Idiot> okay
[07:29] <Schalken> wehugheog: and a Lenovo t60p is...
[07:29] <theflyingfool> n2diy: nothings brining back the sytem/pref/shortcuts time to start setting them myself
[07:29] <Ubuntu_Idiot> i've restarted and the icon is still the same
[07:29] <variant> wehugheog: ubuntu
[07:29] <wehugheog> a laptop
[07:29] <Ubuntu_Idiot> no network connection
[07:29] <variant> wehugheog: actualy, you will need the graphics drivers
[07:29] <variant> wehugheog: if that is an issue for you
[07:29] <n2diy> theflyingfool: ok, good luck.
[07:29] <Ubuntu_Idiot> and no network devices have been found
[07:30] <Ubuntu_Idiot> which makes no sense because im clearly connected
[07:30] <wehugheog> ok so I can use Ubuntu but the graphics wont be perfect?
[07:30] <wehugheog> but the WiFi card (atheros) will work?
[07:30] <theflyingfool> does anyone know how to figure out what the keys labels on a keyboard are
[07:30] <theflyingfool> like what the 0x99 means
[07:30] <rasta> my monitor resolution for my laptop is 1024 x 768 and its the limit, is there anyway i can force it to use a higher res
[07:31] <wehugheog> aha
[07:31] <Ubuntu_Idiot> oh god
[07:31] <wehugheog> 1024x768 is enough for me
[07:31] <wehugheog> and the Atheros wifi card (build in)?
[07:31] <Ubuntu_Idiot> what happened to the person who was helping me?
[07:31] <Ubuntu_Idiot> nuts
[07:32] <n2diy> theflyingfool: I told you, loadkeys! Check out man loadkeys, and at the end of it, the see also stuff.
[07:33] <justin_> Your still bitching about that?
[07:33] <justin_> ...
[07:33] <justin_> Oops wrong place sorry guys.
[07:35] <LucianSolaris> does anyone here live in alaska?
[07:35] <theflyingfool> is it possible to set my volume keys to change the volume control of my choice, the one it currently changes doesnt do anything
[07:36] <n2diy> theflyingfool:  could that be because your keymap is afu?
[07:37] <theflyingfool> i dont think so, it changes master mono, and i need it to change the pmc
[07:37] <theflyingfool> it brings up a volume thing but master mono doesnt change anything
[07:37] <n0ne> hi2all
[07:37] <n0ne> can anyone help me with lan setting in kubuntu?
[07:37] <stedlinger> Let your soul glow, n0ne
[07:37] <n0ne> =)
[07:37] <stedlinger> LET YOUR SOUL GLOW
[07:38] <stedlinger> YOWWWWW
[07:38] <n2diy> theflyingfool:  but you know your keymap is afu, because you were just asking how to fix it.
[07:38] <n0ne> i really need help man)
[07:38] <fatlip> quick question..in xorg.conf -- the device configuration: "PCI:1:0:0" -- what's what? if my card has two outputs, how do i specify one over the other? 1:0:0 and 1:0:1?
[07:38] <stedlinger> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQENuTc-Tak
[07:38] <n0ne> just can't connect to my local net and internet too (i'm now on another computer)
[07:38] <n0ne> can anyone help me?
[07:39] <theflyingfool> n2diy: i didnt relize that the setable keyboard shortcuts where tied to the keymap
[07:39] <justin_> n0cturnal_, lfconfig
[07:39] <justin_> ifconfig* even
[07:39] <n2diy> theflyingfool: apparently they are?
[07:39] <justin_> What does it say for eth0
[07:39] <Raythiest> hello where is eth0?
[07:39] <riotkittie> oops. i meant to try to get my wireless working before i did a reboot :\
[07:39] <Raythiest> what is the path ny default?
[07:39] <theflyingfool> n2diy: thats what i was trying to ask about and you kept saying keymap, being a longer linux user then i just tried it and it didnt do anything for me
[07:40] <gameover> hi... someone know why when i plug my headphones it continues using the main audio?
[07:40] <justin_> Raythiest, in /dev
[07:40] <n0ne> omg, none can help me?! is there anyone who uses lan, or just know how to setup it?!
[07:40] <Raythiest> it is not in dev
[07:40] <justin_> n0ne, "ifconfig"
[07:40] <Raythiest> yet internet works?
[07:40] <justin_> what does it say when you type ifconfig
[07:40] <cowbud> n0ne: omg, what is a lan
[07:40] <Raythiest> ifconfig does not give the path
[07:40] <n0ne> LAN, local net
[07:40] <n2diy> theflyingfool: reset your defaults on your current keyboard, so you have a sane place to start from.
[07:40] <riotkittie> n0ne: TYPE ifconfig in a term
[07:40] <Raythiest> i did
[07:41] <Raythiest> doesnt say a path
[07:41] <n0ne> so what?
[07:41] <Raythiest> i need the path to eth0
[07:41] <Raythiest> where is it located
[07:41] <n0ne> i configured my IP and netmask etc. over 100 times and nothin helped
[07:41] <Raythiest> anyone know?
[07:41] <Ubuntu_Idiot> this is insane
[07:41] <theflyingfool> n2diy: something tells me we are on 2 differnt pages, because when i reset the keymap it didnt change the thing i was trying to change, and it doesnt help with my other problem either way
[07:42] <n2diy> theflyingfool: one problem at a time.
[07:42] <n0ne> omfg...
[07:42] <Ubuntu_Idiot> why doesnt ubuntu 'just work'
[07:42] <Ubuntu_Idiot> everything is so complicated
[07:42] <verdRousseau> I just updated my splash screen and my login screen, for any of you guys that have downloaded ones do you see the old ubuntu tan color come up in between them, I can see this especially on my splash screen as the downloaded thing only takes up the center and its surrounded by ugly ubuntu brown?
[07:42] <lym1> when i log in i get an error message from network manager, so when I start nm-applet in the terminal i get theese error messages:
[07:42] <lym1> ** (nm-applet:11455): WARNING **: Icon nm-vpn-lock missing: Icon 'nm-vpn-lock' not present in theme
[07:42] <lym1> (nm-applet:11455): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
[07:42] <theflyingfool> n2diy: no problem with keymap, the user deffined keyboard shortcuts died, gave up caring
[07:43] <riotkittie> Ubuntu_Idiot: compared to many distros, ubuntu is far from complicated
[07:43] <theflyingfool> n2diy: next problem that does matter, the volume key affects the wrong volume control
[07:43] <Ubuntu_Idiot> but compared to mainstream os ubuntu is really raw
[07:43] <n2diy> theflyingfool: I will only work on one problem at a time.
[07:43] <n0ne> So ok...can anyone help me to configure internet connection?
[07:43] <lym1> wtf
[07:44] <lym1> thats me :S
[07:44] <n2diy> Ubuntu_Idiot: Because it is linux, like it or not, we are all developers.
[07:44] <riotkittie> Ubuntu_Idiot: please, name /one/ mainstream OS that "just works" for everyone.
[07:44] <theflyingfool> n2diy: not to be rude but i think your trying to help me fix a problem i dont have
[07:44] <Ubuntu_Idiot> osx 'just works' for me
[07:44] <Raythiest> ok
[07:44] <n2diy> theflyingfool: Cool, so it is fixed!
[07:44] <riotkittie> not everyone has immense amounts of money to plunk down on a mac
[07:45] <mneptok> Ubuntu_Idiot: it's not complicated, just different
[07:45] <riotkittie> and you arent everyone :P
[07:45] <Raythiest> u guys are truly idiots if you cant tell me where eth0 residse
[07:45] <n0ne> So ok...can anyone help me to configure internet connection?
[07:45] <Raythiest> *resides
[07:45] <Raythiest> my internet is fine
[07:45] <theflyingfool> n0ne: wireless or wired
[07:45] <Raythiest> i need the patj
[07:45] <Ubuntu_Idiot> anyways i really want to get into ubuntu, i just dont get why simple things have to be so hard
[07:45] <Raythiest> *path
[07:45] <lyml> nobody able to help me?
 LAN, local net
[07:45] <theflyingfool> n0ne: whats not working with it
[07:45] <Raythiest> bunch of noobs
[07:46] <mneptok> Raythiest: what are you trying to *do*?
[07:46] <riotkittie> Raythiest: i'm not going to help you, and it has nothing to do with stupidity and everything to do with the way you are carrying yourself
[07:46] <n0ne>  <theflyingfool> u mean, ubuntu doesn't support LAN?!
[07:46] <Raythiest> ubuntu is for noobs anyway......
[07:46] <motiv_studenta> create virtual host. I visit to www.cms.local - php work. Windows client visit - php no work
[07:46] <sleeper300> blindrider: ask these guys.  these are the ubuntu users.
[07:46] <n0ne>  <theflyingfool> u mean, ubuntu doesn't support LAN?!
[07:46] <theflyingfool> n0ne: no what is the problem with your lan, it supporst it fine
[07:46] <variant> gnight all
[07:46] <farkr> ubuntu isnt just for noobs
[07:46] <blindrider> i need
[07:46] <blindrider> help
[07:46] <Raythiest> then someone must know?
[07:46] <riotkittie> Raythiest: yes, ubuntu is for noobs. and you, in your overflowing leetness can't run find or locate
[07:46] <farkr> i know serious linux gurus who hve it installed
[07:46] <riotkittie> or fire up a man
[07:46] <farkr> course they have other things installed too but still
[07:47] <n2diy> Raythiest: what does *path do?
[07:47] <Raythiest> riotkittie: haha..... thats a funny statement
[07:47] <riotkittie> wheee. that was my first ignore since coming back to irc
[07:47] <variant> Raythiest: doesn't that make you truely an idiot also?
[07:47] <n0ne>  <theflyingfool> i've wrote all my LAN settings, but it's doen't work
[07:47] <Raythiest> variant: probably.... lol
[07:47] <n0ne>  <theflyingfool> even my hoster's site
[07:47] <farkr> everyone on earth is an idiot because what we don't know faaar outweighs the little that we do know :D
[07:47] <mneptok> riotkittie: the first step on the path to recovery is to admit you have a problem ...  ;)
[07:48] <sleeper300> hey guys, be helpful to blindrider, hes a noob.  just converted from windows.
[07:48] <theflyingfool> n0ne: is it on a domain?
[07:48] <Raythiest> locate and find do not find a network device
[07:48] <Raythiest> what is the command
[07:48] <riotkittie> sleeper300: we're as helpful as we can be :P
[07:48] <n2diy> riotkittie: I have a spare crying towel.
[07:48] <sleeper300> riotkittie: thats good.  caus i dont use ubuntu.  so im about useless
[07:49] <riotkittie> blindrider: what's your problem?
[07:49] <variant> Raythiest: the fact is that linux doesn't creat a dev entry for eth devices.. they are created in software only
[07:49] <variant> some unixes make /dev/eth type entries.. not linux
[07:49] <J0HN> !resolution | J0HN
[07:49] <ubotu> J0HN: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:49] <variant> Raythiest: use ethtool and ifconfig to administer it
[07:49] <JaeSharp> I was wondering if anyone has thought about packaging the Second Life Linux client now that it has been released under the GPL?
[07:49] <Raythiest> variant: maybe not ubuntu...... .most linux's do
[07:50] <blindrider> i dont know anything about linux
[07:50] <variant> Raythiest: wrong, no linuxes that I know of do
[07:50] <blindrider> i need my nvidia
[07:50] <blindrider> drivers
[07:50] <blindrider> and beryl
[07:50] <riotkittie> ahh nvidia is something i know nothing about
[07:50] <blindrider> and music player
[07:50] <farkr> no one needs beryl :p
[07:50] <riotkittie> !nvida
[07:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvida - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:50] <riotkittie> err
[07:50] <apathetic_ntwrk> 100Mbps = 12.5MBps right?
[07:50] <riotkittie> !nvidia
[07:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:50] <Raythiest> variant: ummm...... i boot 7 different os's and ubuntu is the ONLY one that doesnt
[07:50] <riotkittie> typing is something i know nothing about either
[07:51] <blindrider> nvidia
[07:51] <variant> Raythiest: only if you created it your self. I can _assure_ you that it doesnt (the linux kernel network stack)
[07:51] <riotkittie> Raythiest: seven? on how many boxes?
[07:51] <draky> if you have 6 other OSes why are you so worried about this one?
[07:51] <Raythiest> variant: haha.... your so lost
[07:51] <mneptok> Raythiest: what chipset is the NIC?
[07:52] <variant> Raythiest: I suggest you reboot to one of your many distroes and take a look in /dev/ for anything called eth0. you will be very upset
[07:52] <riotkittie> err. there's a way to enable mouse in tty, yes ?
[07:52] <Raythiest> draky: im testing it for a customer..... i have internet working
[07:52] <Raythiest> variant: would you like multiple screenshots?
[07:52] <n2diy> riotkittie: gdm?
[07:52] <variant> Raythiest: please, also - what distro
[07:52] <Raythiest> i will let you remote in on a fresh install and show you
[07:53] <variant> Raythiest: please do
[07:53] <Raythiest> i do this for a living
[07:53] <variant> Raythiest: good for you
[07:53] <Raythiest> what do you want to use?
[07:53] <Raythiest> vnc?
[07:53] <lupine_85> no eth0 anywhere
[07:53] <variant> Raythiest: ssh please
[07:53] <Raythiest> k
[07:54] <Raythiest> gotta boot to another linux OS
[07:54] <Raythiest> brbr
[07:54] <Raythiest> brb
[07:54] <n2diy> Raythiest: how do you make money doing it? :)
[07:54] <Raythiest> not too much atm
[07:54] <Raythiest> like 45,000 a year
[07:54] <variant> hope you hurry up, i finnsih work in 4 mins
[07:54] <Raythiest> k
[07:54] <Raythiest> brb
[07:55] <khermans_> EDGY RULES
[07:55] <khermans_> *$*
[07:55] <draky> is there a way to get the 4th mouse button and the side to side scrolling to work on a mouse?
[07:56] <khermans_> draky, Xorg.conf
[07:56] <farkr> in xorg.conf you gotta add something for zaxis or whatever it is
[07:56] <riotkittie> no, not in x.
[07:56] <theflyingfool> does anyone know how to switch which volume is controled by a volume key on a keyboard
[07:56] <khermans_> draky, what mouse is it?
[07:56] <n2diy> ?
[07:57] <draky> hmmm, it's a Logitech G5
[07:57] <n0ne> Can anyone help me to setup LAN internet connection with static IP?
[07:57] <khermans_> draky, google that and xorg.conf
[07:57] <draky> alright
[07:57] <riotkittie> i swear i had mouse enabled in console on my slack install. or maybe  i am delusional.
[07:57] <khermans_> n0ne, ya
[07:57] <variant> for some reaons i dont think we will be seeing raythiest again (soon as he realises his mistake:)
[07:57] <n2diy> Slack?
[07:57] <riotkittie> variant: i hope not. he was a jerk :P
[07:58] <variant> indeed
 private message ;)
[07:58] <variant> i found a link to show him: http://groups.google.ie/group/comp.os.linux.misc/browse_thread/thread/bca0f2e0fd12189f/762468cf7d6b6167?lnk=st&q=eth0+dev+entry&rnum=2#762468cf7d6b6167 from the lkml, about people asking for /dev/eth entry :P riotkittie
[07:58] <cyzie> i have install mysql 5 and phpmyadmin. why when i go to the firefox and enter localhost/phpmyadmin  i got a download instead of the login page?
[07:58] <n2diy> Is Slack Debian based?
[07:58] <khermans_> n0ne, just use ifconfig
[07:58] <variant> n2diy: no, definately not
[07:58] <riotkittie> n2diy: no. slackware is ... slackware based ;p
[07:59] <n2diy> 10-4
[07:59] <khermans_> n0ne, sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.200
[07:59] <variant> n2diy: iirc, slackware came before debian (slack is one of the oldest if not _the_ oldest distros
[07:59] <variant> time to go
[07:59] <variant> nigth all
[07:59] <riotkittie> nite variant
[07:59] <khermans_> variant, it is THE oldest
[07:59] <avalon> Hey.. I just ran rkhunter and got this msg /dev/.tmp-22-0 (block special (22/0))  /dev/.static (directory)  /dev/.udev (directory)  /dev/.initramfs (directory)  /etc/.java (directory)... do I have a problem?
[07:59] <n0ne>  <khermans_> i wish it would be so easy, i tryed alot ways , but nothin help
[07:59] <n0ne> =(
[07:59] <Schalken> how do you turn on window borders with compiz?
[07:59] <khermans_> n0ne, what is the problem?/
[08:00] <n0ne>  <khermans_> i can't make an internet connection, i have static ip, dns server etc. all setting are right, it's must work. but it doen't
[08:00] <racarr> Schalken: With Beryl! Sorry, I could not resist
[08:00] <khermans_> n0ne, PC -> Router -> Modem -> Internet ???
[08:01] <riotkittie> n0ne: try posting to ubuntuforums.org and including yr configs
[08:01] <draky> found it, thanks
[08:01] <khermans_> n0ne, make sure your router and modem are working
[08:01] <n2diy> khermans_: can he ping any of them?
 i have no modem and router, i have LAN connection, local network
[08:01] <khermans_> n0ne, what is router IP ?
[08:02] <khermans_> oh ok
[08:02] <khermans_> what are you trying to talk to?
[08:02] <ocx32> hello
 i have only my static IP, dns server adress and gateway
[08:02] <ocx32> i am having problem running proftpd
[08:02] <ocx32>  - IPv6 getaddrinfo 'snoopy' error: Name or service not known
[08:02] <ocx32> snoopy - fatal: Socket operation on non-socket
[08:02] <ocx32> i tried to uninstall
[08:02] <ocx32> using apt-get remove proftpd
[08:02] <ocx32> getting an error
[08:03] <ocx32> apt-get update returns an error too
[08:03] <khermans_> n0ne, so you want to talk to the gateway?
[08:03] <ocx32> what fcan i do?
[08:03] <khermans_> n0ne, and it is on the sam switch/hub ?
[08:03] <n2diy> ocx32: what happens when you type proftp in a terminal?
[08:04] <n0ne>  <khermans_> yea, i just need to send packets to gateway and then i think i would have internet etc.
[08:04] <khermans_> n0ne, if so, what is the IP of the gateway
[08:04] <n0ne>  <khermans_> 172.19.42.1
[08:04] <ocx32> i get this:
[08:04] <ocx32>  - IPv6 getaddrinfo 'snoopy' error: Name or service not known
[08:04] <ocx32> snoopy - fatal: Socket operation on non-socket
[08:04] <khermans_> n0ne, sudo ifconfig eth0 172.19.42.2
[08:04] <n0ne> one moment
[08:04] <n2diy> ocx32: re-install?
[08:04] <khermans_> n0ne, on the linux PC
[08:05] <khermans_> n0ne, i assume this is a wired connection
[08:05] <ocx32> how can i reinstall?
[08:05] <n0ne>  <khermans_> no, it doesn't work :(
[08:05] <khermans_> ocx32, sudo aptitude reinstall proftpd
[08:05] <n2diy> ocx32: are you in X?
[08:05] <khermans_> n0ne, what is the error?
[08:06] <n0ne>  <khermans_> trying to ping www.google.com and have an error - unknown host
[08:06] <ocx32> what is this aptitude?
[08:06] <khermans_> n0ne, dont do that yet
[08:06] <amigamia> hi if i want to stop ftp like i did ssh what would the command look like? i kow for ssh i used /etc/ident.d/ssh stop
[08:06] <khermans_> n0ne, i didnt tell you to do that
[08:06] <Bentley333> Just hosed my 6.06 server by doing "apt-get dist-upgrade"...hangs at 'booting the kernel."  Any ideas?
[08:06] <n0ne>  <khermans_> oh ok, i wrote dis thing with ipconfig
[08:06] <n0ne>  <khermans_> oh ok, i wrote dis thing with ifconfig
[08:06] <khermans_> n0ne, no ifconfig
[08:06] <khermans_> n0ne, did it make any errors?
[08:06] <ocx32> what is the difference between apt-get and aptitude?
[08:06] <n0ne>  <khermans_> nop it's ok
[08:07] <khermans_> n0ne, ping 172.19.42.1
[08:07] <avalon> How can I have the safest ubuntu server aside from having firestarter, rkhunter, and clam going?
[08:07] <riotkittie> Bentley >> reboot. when grub comes up, hit e, and remove "quiet splash" from the line there under kernel
[08:07] <n0ne>  <khermans_> destination host unreachable
[08:07] <amigamia> aptitude is what you get from studying, apt-get is what i am apt to get if i get mad and then i end up with an aptitude :D
[08:08] <riotkittie> it will let you see where its locking or kernel panicking and we'll have more to go on
[08:08] <n2diy> ocx32: I think aptitude is a gui front end for apt-get, just like synaptic is, I prefer synaptic.
[08:08] <khermans_> n0ne, if your ip is set correctly and the gateway is really in that range, then you should be able to ping it
[08:08] <ocx32> ok !
[08:08] <ocx32> :)
[08:08] <riotkittie> no. aptitude is also a CLI tool
[08:08] <amigamia> well CLI is AMIGA
[08:08] <khermans_> n0ne, this assumes the 172.19.42.2 and 172.19.42.1 interfaces are on the same switch
[08:08] <ocx32> how can i reinstall  proftpd from aptitude wih  -noIPV6 support?
 ok, i'll try now smth like that and then wright here if i have any errors ok?
[08:09] <riotkittie> cli in this case being Command Line Interface
[08:09] <khermans_> n0ne, ya
[08:09] <n0ne> ok ty
[08:09] <khermans_> ocx32, isnt it comipled in?
[08:09] <khermans_> ocx32, if so, then no, compile your own
[08:09] <yoshiznit123> ocx32, you can also use apt-build
[08:09] <ocx32> when running aptitude
[08:09] <ocx32> its support ipv6
[08:10] <ocx32> and i am getting an error when running proftpd
[08:10] <ocx32>  - IPv6 getaddrinfo 'snoopy' error: Name or service not known
[08:10] <ocx32> snoopy - fatal: Socket operation on non-socket
[08:10] <ocx32> so i need to disable ipv6
[08:10] <ocx32> how can i disable it using aptitude or apt-get
[08:10] <yoshiznit123> ah disregard my last statement :-P
[08:10] <n2diy> ! ipv6 | ocx32
[08:10] <ubotu> ocx32: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[08:11] <ocx32> i want only to disable ipv6 for proftpd
[08:11] <ocx32> not from the whole system
[08:11] <n2diy> ! ipv6 | ocx32
[08:11] <ubotu> ocx32: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[08:11] <Bentley333> riotkittie: it says Running scripts/initial-premount    and then a few acpi lines
[08:12] <Bentley333> the last is Thermal Zone (56C)
[08:12] <Moosejaw> i messed with my fglrx and now xgl wont work properly and i am unsure how to troubleshoot it
[08:12] <Bentley333> and then hangs
[08:12] <Moosejaw> can someone help me out?
[08:12] <n2diy> ! ask | Moosejaw
[08:12] <ubotu> Moosejaw: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:13] <fatlip> quick question..in xorg.conf -- the device configuration: "PCI:1:0:0" -- what's what? if my card has two outputs, how do i specify one over the other? 1:0:0 and 1:0:1?
[08:13] <JackPhil> the sound modules can't load after latest upgrade
[08:13] <Moosejaw> can someone help me fix my xgl/beryl issue?
[08:13] <JackPhil> edgy
[08:13] <n2diy> ! Beryl | Moosejaw
[08:13] <ubotu> Moosejaw: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:14] <JackPhil> disagrees about version of symbol snd_info_register
[08:14] <JackPhil> and so on
[08:19] <Bentley333> anyone still there?
[08:19] <Kragnerac> Hello, I am having a problem with my Ubuntu installation.
[08:20] <yoshiznit123> kragnerac, what's wrong?
[08:21] <Kragnerac> I have just recently installed an ATI X1300 PCI into my system. When I try to install Ubuntu, it just sits there at the bootsplash screen, and then eventually restarts.
[08:21] <PORDO> what do i need to install to see use java apps in web pages?
[08:22] <Kragnerac> If it helps, yes, I have an onboard graphics accelerator in my motherboard (Intel 82865G).
[08:22] <PORDO> like for uploading to gallery.
[08:22] <poningru> !java > PORDO
[08:22] <yoshiznit123> kragnerac, try booting without splash
[08:22] <yoshiznit123> can't really help without messages
[08:22] <PORDO> i installed javavm
[08:23] <marwin> Anyone got some problems with the Xchat?
[08:23] <Kragnerac> Yes, I did. It gets to the hardware detection, and then it prints out a plethora of messages. In Kubuntu, the kernel goes into a panic.
[08:23] <Kragnerac> Too many to be able to read, as I can't scroll up.
[08:25] <Harkonnen20> Excuse me guys, I need some help. Im running the live cd of ubuntu 6.06 on my laptop and I don't know how to get the wireless to work.
[08:25] <wluz> how can I extract driver files from a windows .exe for use with ndiswrapper?
[08:25] <Vuen> hi #ubuntu, my CTRL key is broken. is there any way i can map another key to CTRL, like this pesky Menu key for example?
[08:25] <Harkonnen20> It is activated in the network settings
[08:25] <Kragnerac> This only happened when my graphics card is not being used (when I have my BIOS set to use the OnBoard graphics, instead.
[08:25] <wluz> Harkonnen20: I am doing that very thing
[08:25] <Harkonnen20> any idea wluz?
[08:25] <Kragnerac> Oops
[08:25] <Kragnerac> When I have my BIOS to use PCI, I meant.
[08:26] <wluz> oh, if you can see yours in the Network menu you have a different problem, I have to figure out how to install windows drivers
[08:26] <yoshiznit123> kragnerac, sorry man can't really help, although it seems that ur card is supported by ubuntu
[08:26] <Kragnerac> When I have my BIOS to use the onboard graphics, it works flawlessly.
[08:26] <Harkonnen20> x server error Kragnerac?
[08:26] <Kragnerac> Harkonnen20: Yes, I believe.
[08:26] <Harkonnen20> im having that same problem on my desktop.
[08:27] <yoshiznit123> kragnerac, kernel panics during bootup or when X tries to start?
[08:27] <Kragnerac> The thing is, this happens on ALL other distros.
[08:27] <Harkonnen20> i bet it would boot if i enabled my onboard again and plugged my monitor into it
[08:27] <Harkonnen20> instead of my standalone
[08:27] <Kragnerac> yoshiznit123: During bootup
[08:27] <Bentley333> ANyone have any ideas about this hanging at an acpi message after upgrading from 6.06 to 6.10 using "apt-get dist-update"  ?
[08:28] <Harkonnen20> Excuse me guys, I need some help. Im running the live cd of ubuntu 6.06 on my laptop and I don't know how to get the wireless to work. It is activated in network settings. But I don't know how to connect it to a wireless connection.
[08:28] <yoshiznit123> kragnerac, can you boot in recovery mode?
[08:28] <fulat2k> hi folks, any idea why knetworkmanager can't connect to a infra wifi network while the wireless assistant is able to only via manual ip config?  i'm using kubuntu 6.10
[08:28] <Kragnerac> yoshiznit123: Hmm. Let me try...
[08:29] <X-Rob> OK, who can clue me up on some issues I'm having with building some .debs?
[08:29] <Lynoure> Bentley333: that's so not the recommended way to upgrade to Edgy. Why don't you use the update-manager?
[08:29] <kraut> moin
[08:29] <wluz> how do I get driver files out of an .exe?
[08:29] <ocx32> how can i totally remove a package?
[08:29] <ocx32> using aptitude
[08:30] <Bentley333> Lynoure: Hrmm..not enough googling I guess? :)
[08:30] <yoshiznit123> x-rob, what's the problem?
[08:30] <ocx32> coz when reinstalling it is recompiling with ipv6
[08:30] <Bentley333> anyway to go backwards then?
[08:30] <X-Rob> Problem is, I'm building a deb that replaces some configuration files that are installed by ANOTHER deb, that is required by various other packages. Is there any way I can work around this?
[08:30] <ocx32> even though i revmoed ipv6 support from ubuntu
[08:30] <X-Rob> move the files around in postinstall?
[08:30] <Bentley333> Would love  to be able to get this back up by morning
[08:30] <marwin> Anyone know why the x-chat (channel list) freezes when i try to conenct to another network like EFnet ? "Ubuntu or nothing"? :P :P
[08:31] <Lynoure> Bentley333: This seems like a pretty decent guide, but as a disclaimer I admit I stayed in LTS version: http://www.debianadmin.com/upgrade-ubuntu-dapper-to-ubuntu-edgy-eft.html
[08:31] <yoshiznit123> x-rob, are you creating the deb or trying to install it?
[08:31] <X-Rob> yoshiznit123, creating.
[08:32] <X-Rob> I'm rather unclued with debs, I should point out, and am re-working other peoples code, yoshiznit123.
[08:32] <Bentley333> Lynoure: But what about now that the system is unbootable?
[08:32] <Bentley333> Should I be able to try to boot the old kernel and it should come up?
[08:32] <Harkonnen20> Excuse me guys, I need some help. Im running the live cd of ubuntu 6.06 on my laptop and I don't know how to get the wireless to work. It is activated in network settings. But I don't know how to connect it to a wireless connection.
[08:32] <yoshiznit123> x-rob, i know some packages in the repos have conflicting files, but you can do apt-get -f install to override it
[08:32] <Harkonnen20> Plus everytime i go back into network settings it is shown as not active anymore
[08:32] <yoshiznit123> x-rob, is it vital to both of the packages?
[08:33] <Lynoure> Bentley333: someone actually using edgy could help you better. I'd recommend clean install or restore from backups as the quick fix.
[08:33] <emss> I ran apt-get install kubuntu-desktop but would like to revert back to just the regular gnome/ubuntu setup, how to do this?
[08:33] <X-Rob> yoshiznit123, specifically, it's the ubuntu-supplied  'asterisk-config' that I need to overwrite with my 'asterisk-config-freepbx'
[08:33] <Bentley333> Lynoure: Was afraid someone was gonna mention a backup :(
[08:33] <X-Rob> but if I try to uninstall it, there's a pile of other things that require asterisk-config. Yes, I can just do forced installs, but I was hoping there was a nicer way.
[08:34] <emss> Bentley333: ?
[08:34] <yoshiznit123> x-rob, i would say just put it in the package - i'm pretty sure dpkg handles it by itself
[08:34] <Lynoure> Bentley333: I'm shocked 90% of people seem to not do any backups. It is a really really good idea, at least before upgrade.
[08:35] <emss> Bentley333: what is your question?
[08:36] <Harkonnen20> nobody knows how to help me?
[08:36] <X-Rob> yoshiznit123, I think I'll just have to put a --force-all in the installation instructions
[08:36] <Bentley333> emss:  I tried upgrading from 6.06 to 6.10 using "apt-get dist-update"  And now the machine hangs at "booting kernel"  when I do no splash it hangs after an acpi message about the thermal zone
[08:36] <emss> Harkonnen20: ?
[08:36] <X-Rob> that's not going to work when it's rolled out into the big wide world tho
[08:36] <sabrebutt> What's the question hark?
[08:36] <Harkonnen20> Im trying to get wireless to work
[08:36] <X-Rob> actually, I s'pose that someone else may fix it for me then 8)
[08:36] <Harkonnen20> Excuse me guys, I need some help. Im running the live cd of ubuntu 6.06 on my laptop and I don't know how to get the wireless to work. It is activated in network settings. But I don't know how to connect it to a wireless connection.
[08:36] <yoshiznit123> lol
[08:37] <X-Rob> Thanks, yoshiznit123
[08:37] <yoshiznit123> that's always the best solution
[08:37] <Harkonnen20> thats my question :P
[08:37] <sabrebutt> Hark
[08:37] <proqesi> how do I unmount my main drive to fsck it?
[08:37] <Harkonnen20> yes
[08:37] <Bentley333> Hmm..on the good side.. I went into grub and chose the old kernel and it just booted right up.  So that's a plus
[08:37] <sabrebutt> What's the card?
[08:37] <Harkonnen20> i dunno
[08:37] <emss> Bentley333: what is the acpi message?
[08:37] <sabrebutt> Ok
[08:37] <sabrebutt> Do this
[08:37] <emss> Bentley333: you might be able to boot by passing the noacpi kernel parameter
[08:38] <sabrebutt> System
[08:38] <sabrebutt> Administration  - > Device Manager
[08:38] <Harkonnen20> k, gotta run back to the lappy to do it :P
[08:39] <sabrebutt> If you could get the lappy neaby that might be good
[08:39] <Bentley333> [some big number]  ACPI: Thermal Zone [THERM]  (56 C)
[08:39] <Bentley333> doesn't seem like an error
[08:39] <Bentley333> emss
[08:39] <Bentley333> gotcha
[08:40] <Bentley333> I think now that I booted with the old kernel I'll try the proper upgrade method that Lynoure gave me the URL for
[08:41] <Harkonnen20> ok the Vendor: Broadcom Corp.
[08:41] <sabrebutt> Awesome
[08:41] <sabrebutt> Did it have a model number
[08:41] <Harkonnen20> Device BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g
[08:41] <Bentley333> but not tonight...now that it's working I'm just gonna leave it alone for tonight
[08:41] <Bentley333> thanks gang for the guidance
[08:41] <Harkonnen20> Device: BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g
[08:42] <sabrebutt> When you go into networking under administration does it show a wireless card?
[08:42] <Harkonnen20> yes etho1
[08:43] <sabrebutt> Ok
[08:43] <Moniker42> hey, how do i mount my dvd drive?
[08:43] <Harkonnen20> the network i want to connect to is unsecured too
[08:43] <Harkonnen20> not that i know how to find it to connect
[08:43] <sabrebutt> Can you try typing in the ssid?
[08:43] <Harkonnen20> what should i type
[08:44] <sabrebutt> What's the name of the network you want to connect to?
[08:44] <root_> helllooooooo people
[08:44] <Harkonnen20> can't it show me a network to connect too?
[08:44] <sabrebutt> Hey root
[08:45] <sabrebutt> Likely not in 6.06 Live
[08:45] <Harkonnen20> well its called evans family network
[08:45] <Harkonnen20> my neighbours :P
[08:45] <sabrebutt> If you do decide to install, you can download Network-Manager
[08:45] <Harkonnen20> yeah i keep seeing that on google
[08:46] <sabrebutt> And I'd recommend trying edgy for that
[08:46] <Harkonnen20> i do have the 6.10 cd too
[08:46] <sabrebutt> But otherwise it should work very well.
[08:46] <sabrebutt> Ok, great.
[08:46] <Moniker42> anyone, how do i mount my dvd drive?
[08:46] <ocx32> how to install a .deb package and play with compilation options?
[08:46] <ocx32> i want to disable ipv6 for proftpd
[08:46] <Harkonnen20> everytime i open the network settings it says the etho1 is deactivated
[08:47] <Harkonnen20> after i activate it
[08:47] <sabrebutt> Hmm...
[08:47] <Harkonnen20> and the light for the wireless doesn't come on either on the laptop
[08:47] <sabrebutt> That happens for me too.
[08:47] <sabrebutt> Dell?
[08:47] <fatlip> quick question..in xorg.conf -- the device configuration: "PCI:1:0:0" -- what's what? if my card has two outputs, how do i specify one over the other? 1:0:0 and 1:0:1?
[08:47] <Harkonnen20> its got a button i press
[08:47] <Harkonnen20> compaq
[08:47] <sabrebutt> Ok.
[08:48] <sabrebutt> Well, I'd say an install of 6.10 with network-manager should be just what you're looking for.
[08:48] <BrianG> i have this weird problem. all the icons on my desktop disappeared.. but not before opening my home folder displayed a frozen home folder window. this all happened after moving files
[08:48] <Harkonnen20> yeah but im just trying out ubuntu for now
[08:48] <Harkonnen20> would love to get wireless to work on it without installing
[08:48] <sabrebutt> Ok.
[08:49] <sabrebutt> Let me get my lappy over here
[08:49] <ocx32> can i choose compilation options while installing a .deb PACKAGE?!?!?!
[08:49] <FirstStrike> ocx32: No. The package is already compiled.
[08:49] <ocx32> any .ta.rgz for proftpd?
[08:50] <FirstStrike> google it
[08:50] <sabrebutt> Yeah, some cards are like that, even mine.
[08:50] <sabrebutt> Ok, hark, have you tried typing in the ssid?
[08:51] <xerophyte> I had spell checks in the textarea box anywhere i mean even in the firefox and any text input. . now i lost the firefox spell check because i upgrade my open office for that i remove  few application .. does anybody which applicatin offer the spell check in the firefox ??
[08:51] <riotkittie>  arent packages ... already compiled?
[08:51] <Harkonnen20> i typed the name in there but i didn't hit ok
[08:51] <Harkonnen20> do that now?
[08:52] <sabrebutt> Ok, and then it asks if you have a network password?
[08:52] <sabrebutt> Hit ok
[08:52] <Harkonnen20> its got no password, will go hit ok now
[08:54] <Harkonnen20> well i hit ok, and the net still doesn't work
[08:54] <cyzie> other than phpmyadmin, is there any other GUI for me to create db , run query , etc etc in mysql ?
[08:54] <Harkonnen20> went back to network settings and it was inactive again...
[08:54] <wluz> I am trying to get a Linksys PCMCIA wireless adapter to work.  Amazingly, I have gottent ndiswrapper installed, and the driver for the device, but even when it is plugged in ndiswrapper says Hardware Present: No.  Anyone?
[08:55] <sabrebutt> Well, sometimes that happens, especially if installing isn't an option for you.
[08:55] <sabrebutt> But otherwise, I'd say I hope you like everything else on the livecd
[08:55] <Harkonnen20> its confusing right now :P
[08:55] <Harkonnen20> im happy it works on the laptop
[08:56] <Harkonnen20> but it won't boot on my desktop
[08:56] <sabrebutt> Well, laptops usually work pretty well.
[08:56] <Harkonnen20> always get xserver error No screen(s) found
[08:56] <sabrebutt> Hmmm
[08:57] <deadcat> i need a software to connect to my qube3 server via serial cable.
[08:57] <Harkonnen20> i beleive its having a problem with me having onboard graphics and standalone
[08:57] <deadcat> what do i use?
[08:57] <Harkonnen20> even though the onboard is disabled in BIOS
[08:57] <ArabNet> !ping
[08:57] <ubotu> 64 bytes from ubotu (10.13.37.1): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.33 ms
[08:57] <wluz> why won't my wireless adapter show up in the Network menu?
[08:57] <ArabNet> ping
[08:57] <ArabNet> ping me
[08:58] <Harkonnen20> !ping ArabNet
[08:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ping ArabNet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:58] <sabrebutt> Have you tried booting with the onboard enabled?
[08:59] <sabrebutt> What kind of standalone card is it?
[08:59] <shanghai> china
[08:59] <wluz> Linksys WPC300N v1
[08:59] <YogSothoth_> Hi :)
[08:59] <Harkonnen20> the standalone is a radeon 9200
[08:59] <Harkonnen20> other is some intel integrated crap
[08:59] <sabrebutt> Ouch. Radeons can be fussy
[09:00] <fatlip> okay seriously... how do i choose the digital output on my videocard instead of the analog one?
[09:00] <sabrebutt> I would say on that one, enable the intel onboard and see if it boots because that's probly a driver issue
[09:00] <Harkonnen20> yeah i had some guy helping me with it earlier
[09:01] <Harkonnen20> he told me to put in sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:01] <sabrebutt> Yeah
[09:01] <Harkonnen20> then i selected ati from the menu, and it asked me a billion questions
[09:01] <Harkonnen20> was ridiculous
[09:01] <sabrebutt> ah
[09:01] <sabrebutt> Yeah
[09:01] <Harkonnen20> not going through that for live cd
[09:01] <sabrebutt> Yeah, that's a waste of time for that
[09:02] <Harkonnen20> its asking where its located on pci bus and how much RAM in kilobytes...
[09:02] <Harkonnen20> then some other random crap
[09:02] <Harkonnen20> pressed power button and gave up lol
[09:02] <sabrebutt> Do you know what type of intel card it is?
[09:02] <sabrebutt> haha been there
[09:03] <Harkonnen20> Intel 82845G/GL graphics controller
[09:04] <Harkonnen20> after typing that reconfigure command it detected my intel one :P
[09:04] <sabrebutt> Wasn't it disabled?
[09:04] <Harkonnen20> apparently not...
[09:04] <karmikaze> can anyone please tell me where stickynotes saves data to
[09:04] <karmikaze> i cant find it on google anywhere...
[09:05] <Harkonnen20> its set to PCI in my BIOS
[09:05] <Harkonnen20> so i dunno
[09:05] <Lynoure> karmikaze: What is the program actually called?
[09:05] <karmikaze> gnome-sticky-notes
[09:05] <karmikaze> i think
[09:06] <karmikaze> some gnome applet..
[09:06] <karmikaze> basically i use gnome on another distro, but its broken, and i cant get online til i find my wifi key which is in a stickynote...
[09:06] <Lynoure> karmikaze: I guess it is only for edgy or something then, no gnome-sticky-notes found for dapper.
[09:06] <karmikaze> -_-
[09:06] <karmikaze> slocate sticky?
[09:07] <sabrebutt> Well, I'd say maybe play with it just a bit. Just give it a chance. What are you currently on, XP?
[09:07] <nrdb> I would like to know if I wright my own code, compile it with gcc, can I then lincense this any way I would like.
[09:07] <Lynoure> karmikaze: That could work for you :)
[09:07] <karmikaze> where do gnome applets save state to?
[09:07] <karmikaze> doesnt work for me cos updatedb only reads root
[09:07] <proqesi> nrdb: yes
[09:07] <karmikaze> and im lookin on a different partition
[09:07] <Lynoure> karmikaze: my guess would be maybe under ~/.gnome2
[09:07] <karmikaze> kk ty Lynoure
[09:08] <karmikaze> didnt think to look in ~
[09:08] <karmikaze> brb
[09:08] <ocx32> how can i tell which ubuntu version am i running
[09:08] <Lynoure> ~ is your home, should be first place to look :)
[09:08] <sabrebutt> OCX System -> About Ubuntu
[09:08] <nrdb> proqesi: thanks, thought so, just saw a website that indicated otherwise, thought I would ask and find out
[09:09] <karmikaze> is there a way to read default.keyrings in kde???
[09:10] <karmikaze> afraid if i cat it, it will do horrible things to my term
[09:11] <Moosejaw> i am getting this error when i try to start beryl...can someone help me out?
[09:11] <Moosejaw> XGL Absent, checking for NVIDIA
[09:11] <Moosejaw> Nvidia Absent, checking for texture_from_pixmap
[09:11] <Moosejaw> texture_from_pixmap Present
[09:11] <Moosejaw> beryl: No composite extension
[09:12] <sabrebutt> Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:12] <sabrebutt> Add Option "Composite" "On"
[09:13] <sabrebutt> To your Device section, moosejaw
[09:14] <wluz> is there anyone here who can help me get my wireless adapter working?
[09:14] <sabrebutt> What kind again wluz?
[09:14] <wluz> Linksys WPC300N v1
[09:15] <yuk> anybody know how to auto config bluetooth pan ?
[09:15] <Moosejaw> sabrebutt thanks
[09:15] <Moosejaw> will try
[09:15] <yuk> wluz: what kind of wireless card?
[09:15] <wluz> Linksys WPC300N v1
[09:16] <wluz> my problem is that it does not show up in System->Administration->Networking
[09:16] <wluz> but I have the driver installed and ndiswrapper, and it shows up in ndiswrapper
[09:17] <karmikaze> argh
[09:17] <karmikaze> i cant find where stickynotes saves to
[09:17] <karmikaze> at all...
[09:17] <yuk> wluz: first you shuld let kernel recognize the card
[09:17] <benjk> hi, I am running Ubuntu Server 6.06 (Dapper) and I need libltdl which isn't currently installed, apt-get install libltdl gives an error, any idea what the package is called?
[09:17] <karmikaze> can some gnome user slocate sticky and see if any dirs come up that look like they hold data... please
[09:17] <wluz> yuk: ok, how do I do that
[09:18] <karmikaze> or slocate applet
[09:18] <yuk> wluz: u could try 'dmesg' to see what's wrong with ndiswrapper
[09:18] <karmikaze> see if any dirs about notes or whatever
[09:18] <proqesi> karmikaze: why not do it on your system?
[09:18] <PORDO> how do i rename my machine?
[09:19] <wluz> dmesg :   [17179595.624000]  ndiswrapper version 1.34 loaded (preempt=no,smp=yes)
[09:19] <karmikaze> proqesi: i use kde in kubuntu, gnome in suse, suse is broken, slocate doesnt read the suse partition while im in kubuntu
[09:19] <karmikaze> i need to read default.keyrings
[09:19] <karmikaze> but i dont think thats possible
[09:19] <benjk> anybody knows how to get libltdl, please?
[09:19] <yuk> wluz: dmesg | grep wlan0
[09:19] <karmikaze> so i wanna see if i have a note with my network key on it
[09:20] <neutrinomass> Hi, I can't get nvidia to work, I get something about version mismatch in the kernel module and xorg's module (I didn't compile my own, just installed -restricted-modules from the repos)
[09:20] <wluz> yuk: gives me nothing
[09:20] <sabrebutt> benjk what's the error you get on apt
[09:20] <karmikaze> neutrinomass: check out lupine repos
[09:20] <proqesi> karmikaze: it would read it depending on where you mount the partition
[09:20] <PORDO> someone please tell me about java again.
[09:20] <benjk> E: Couldn't find package libltdl
[09:20] <PORDO> ubotu tell PORDO java
[09:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about  tell PORDO java - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <karmikaze> its mounted in media proqesi
[09:21] <PORDO> ubotu tell PORDO about java
[09:21] <karmikaze> i have read perm, but it doesnt even look in there im certain
[09:21] <neutrinomass> karmikaze: is the 8667 (or something like that) the legacy driver? Because one of them is that, and the other is 96xx I think (I don't remember the numbers exactly)
[09:21] <karmikaze> check your linux-restricted-modules too
[09:21] <yuk> wluz: ndiswrapper -l
[09:21] <karmikaze> but neutrinomass i couldnt get any nvidia stuff working til i used lupines repo.. dunno why, but they worked for me. what card you got?
[09:21] <neutrinomass> Problem is they used to work and then I decided I don't want them :p
[09:22] <wluz> yuk: lsbcmnds       driver installed, hardware present
[09:22] <karmikaze> ive had zero luck with nvidia on edgy, have to try another repo imho
[09:22] <rqm> Haro?
[09:22] <karmikaze> anyone use gnome sticky notes type thing, anyone tell me what the actually app is called and where its data is stored??
[09:22] <karmikaze> T_T
[09:22] <yuk> wluz: iwconfig
[09:23] <rqm> Excuse me, Am I the only one who has problems connectiong to the dapper repos?
[09:23] <neutrinomass> karmikaze: Actually, very good point. This could be a kernel problem. The card doesn't show in lspci
[09:23] <karmikaze> yep neutrinomass
[09:23] <yuk> wluz: any interface support wireless extensions
[09:23] <neutrinomass> karmikaze: tomboy ?
[09:23] <karmikaze> mine didnt show in xorg either
[09:23] <benjk> ok, found it, the package is called libltdl3
[09:23] <benjk> not libltdl
[09:23] <karmikaze> until i used lupines repo... then glxinfo knew my card
[09:23] <benjk> go figure
[09:23] <karmikaze> !lupine
[09:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lupine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:23] <karmikaze> !nvidia
[09:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:23] <neutrinomass> karmikaze: Ok, I'll take a look into that....
[09:23] <karmikaze> nrrr
[09:24] <rqm> "nrrr"?
[09:24] <wluz> yuk: lo    no wireless extensions;    eth0   no wireless extensions;     sit0      no wireless extensions.
[09:24] <neutrinomass> karmikaze: I don't really want to mess with custom repos though and the official driver is known to work, so I'll try a bit more :) thanks
[09:24] <karmikaze> kk
[09:25] <karmikaze> anyone got ideas on how to read data file default.keyrings
[09:25] <rqm> could someone reply me so I know i'm not been blocked, please?
[09:25] <karmikaze> not an ascii file, so it dumps goo to term when cat
[09:25] <neutrinomass> rqm: blah
[09:25] <rqm> neutrinomass: thanks
[09:25] <riotkittie> i dont have them rqm
[09:25] <rqm> riotkittie: have what?
[09:26] <proqesi> rqm: if you were blocked and still in the room, you would be unable to speak
[09:26] <karmikaze> where the heck did the gnome/softwaremap go to???
[09:26] <rqm> ok, i guess
[09:26] <karmikaze> theres no where that officially lists gnome applications??
[09:26] <rqm> i wasn't sure sorry
[09:27] <rqm> riotkittie: you aren't having problems with the official repos?
[09:27] <riotkittie> no
[09:27] <riotkittie> brb
[09:27] <Mba7eth> hi every boy
[09:27] <Mba7eth> i need a little help
[09:27] <rqm> I'm getting this message "W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/w/w3m/w3m_0.5.1-4ubuntu2.6.06_i386.deb
[09:27] <rqm>   Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)"
[09:27] <rqm> what did I ever did wrong?
[09:27] <wluz> yuk: that's where I'm stuck.  If it helps, none of the leds ever light up, even during boot
[09:28] <clark0820> hi, I earilier only partiiton 4 Gb for Ubuntu, but now there's not too much space left, yesterday someone told me to use live cd to merge memory, but I put on the live cd but really have no clue how to do it, doesn't anyone know?? thanks
[09:28] <Mba7eth> guys how can extract files in .tgz format
[09:28] <ocx32> how can i make proftpd log the login's error attemps in syslog!
[09:28] <ocx32> ?
[09:28] <Mba7eth> ???????
[09:29] <proqesi> Mba7eth: tar -xzvf
[09:29] <Jowi> karmikaze, i haven't used sticky notes. but I bet the data are stored in $HOME/.gnome2 /stickysomething
[09:29] <Mba7eth> thnax :)
[09:29] <karmikaze> not seeing it Jowi :(
[09:29] <karmikaze> -_-
[09:30] <Mba7eth>  incomplete literal tree
[09:30] <Mba7eth> gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--format violated
[09:30] <Mba7eth> tarjei: Child returned status 1
[09:30] <Mba7eth> tarjei: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[09:30] <yuk> wluz: i think ndiswrapper has normally installed,maybe something conflict with kernel module
[09:30] <Mba7eth> i got this error :(
[09:30] <karmikaze> im certain its just called sticky notes
[09:30] <wluz> yuk: is there anything I can do about that?
[09:30] <Jowi> karmikaze, it in /home/username/.gnome2/stickynotes_applet
[09:30] <karmikaze> unlucky.. i dont have that dir -_-
[09:30] <karmikaze> i'll have to find a way to either fsck suse, or read default.keyrings
[09:31] <karmikaze> hrmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[09:31] <Jowi> karmikaze, i bet you do. it is ".gnome2" and not only "gnome2" it is hidden
[09:31] <karmikaze> can i use a gnome-network manager in kde?
[09:31] <karmikaze> i checked ~/.gnome2
[09:31] <karmikaze> nothing about notes, only a few other apps :/
[09:31] <karmikaze> which was weird, cos it ought be there
[09:31] <karmikaze> shared home partition and all...
[09:31] <karmikaze> @_@
[09:31] <Jowi> karmikaze, strange. i have it there. :-/
[09:32] <yuk> wluz: if you know the module you could add in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[09:33] <yuk> wluz: maybe you try dmesg again
[09:33] <wluz> yuk: there was something at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper (7. Disable free drivers), I did that, was that wrong?
[09:34] <clark0820> hi, I earilier only partiiton 4 Gb for Ubuntu, but now there's not too much space left, yesterday someone told me to use live cd to merge memory, but I put on the live cd but really have no clue how to do it, does anyone know?? thanks
[09:34] <riotkittie> karmikaze: are you positive?
[09:34] <riotkittie> tw
[09:34] <riotkittie> nm
[09:35] <proqesi> join #emacs
[09:35] <proqesi> oops
[09:35] <karmikaze> not there
[09:35] <karmikaze> meh
[09:35] <karmikaze> fsck is giving bad warnings for my suse root
[09:35] <wluz> yuk: blacklist bcm43xx
[09:35] <karmikaze> wants me to manually run
[09:36] <karmikaze> but if its stored in home anyway i dont get whey i dont have it
[09:36] <karmikaze> unfortunately i gotta give up now and get ready for uni
[09:36] <karmikaze> see you all later
[09:37] <yuk> wluz: maybe
[09:37] <wluz> should I comment out that line?
[09:37] <fokuslee> Hi is kiba-dock broken for everone?
[09:37] <ocx32> how can i make proftpd log the login's error attemps in syslog ?
[09:37] <shpond> I'll find out
[09:38] <sabrebutt> Fokuslee, are you using trevino's repo?
[09:38] <PORDO> what all do i need to get java working in a web browser?
[09:39] <PORDO> i installed sunjava.
[09:39] <phEight> does anyone know what could possibly cause my cd drive to error while burning in k3b.. and then after that the cd burner just seems somewhat dead.. k3b wont burn at all.. serpentine thinks there is no cd recorder present.. when i put a cd in.. it wont fully spin
[09:39] <birdmun> i have managed to fubar the file that sets up my keyboard in x. sometimes if i select system>preferences>keyboard>layout options>Alt/Win keys and select something other than default and then reselect default it gets corrected but not always ... is there a way i can get this straightened out permanently?
[09:39] <yuk> wluz: if your adaptor is not bcm43xx , it will not work
[09:39] <fokuslee> sabrebutt no i used some deb from the ubuntu forum it wouldn't run
[09:40] <riotkittie> phEight: no clue. is this a one time thing, or a repeat occurance
[09:40] <yuk> wluz: lsmod to see what kind of module the kernel have loaded
[09:40] <fokuslee> sabrebutt:  when i try to make it from cvs i get undefined macro
[09:40] <fokuslee> error exit status one
[09:40] <phEight> this was actually my first time trying to burn a cd.. it errored, after it errored i tried another cd using a different burning method but the burn didnt even begin.. i rebooted.. and now it's doing what i said above
[09:40] <motiv_studenta> support there is sucks
[09:41] <riotkittie> phEight: wow, that sucks. sorry, but i have no clue
[09:41] <riotkittie> i dont even have a burner on my laptop :(
[09:41] <phEight> no prob, quite a weird problem donno what would cause it
[09:41] <phEight> lol aw
[09:41] <phEight> that's too bad
[09:41] <phEight> well mine is quite useless atm
[09:41] <fokuslee> sabrebutt:  here exactly autoreconf: running: /usr/bin/autoconf
[09:41] <fokuslee> configure.in:30: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_PROG_LIBTOOL
[09:41] <Moosejaw> i am using an ati x1400 card, anyone know the max refresh rate i can use and how to change it?
[09:41] <wluz> yuk: what am I looking for in that? ndiswrapper, pcmcia ...?
[09:41] <aldin> Err http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main libavahi-common3 0.6.13-2ubuntu2.3
[09:42] <phEight> it's so weird.. when i pop in a cd.. it's like powering up for 1 second then dies down.. makes a click sound.. powers up for 1 second dies down.. etc
[09:42] <riotkittie> too bad's an understated. no burner, no external storage. a measly 12gb drive <weep>
[09:42] <Moosejaw> sabrebutt: thank you...it worked.
[09:42] <sabrebutt> Was it working before and what is the address of the deb you used fokuslee
[09:42] <aldin> why these dont work
[09:42] <sabrebutt> Great!
[09:42] <sabrebutt> No prob
[09:42] <dcordes> when i try to switch to ttys or restart my X i get a frozen strange looking screen. i'm using fglrx drivers from the repositories. if this is known, how can i fix it?
[09:42] <Moosejaw> sabrebutt any idea about my refresh rate issue?
[09:43] <fokuslee> sabrebutt: i never tried to compile it before b/c the deb i used worked before but after i reinstalled kiba-dock will not run just hangs there no response not even print out error
[09:43] <sabrebutt> Lemme see, I'm on nvidia moosejaw
[09:43] <linux_user400354> if i have windows in raid 0, does that mean i can not mount the ntfs windows partitions in linux?
[09:43] <riotkittie> is it a bad idea to copy a .so from one distro to another? :p
[09:43] <aldin> broken repos, anyone knows why:Err http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main avahi-daemon 0.6.13-2ubuntu2.3
[09:44] <Moosejaw> hrm...i wish i had nvidia
[09:44] <Moosejaw> hehe
[09:44] <Moosejaw> i have a good card, but its only doing 60hz
[09:44] <seanj> riotkittie: I do that with some custom XMMS plugins.. as long as it's not system-critical you should be ok.. but if it goes in /usr/lib or something you might want to avoid that
[09:44] <birdmun> what resolution are you using Moosejaw?
[09:44] <Moosejaw> 1680x1050
[09:45] <birdmun> what resolution will the monitor support?
[09:45] <riotkittie> gah. ok. now to figure out where to get libgtk-1.2.so. brb.
[09:45] <Moosejaw> lots...but the refrsh rate only goes to 60
[09:45] <sabrebutt> What's the address of the deb fokuslee? http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=22557&d=1168301798 usually works for me
[09:45] <Moosejaw> the only option is 60
[09:45] <fokuslee> http://www.dpb.org.uk/ubuntu/edgy_6.10/kiba-dock_0.1.0-1_amd64.deb
[09:46] <fokuslee> Sabrebutt above
[09:46] <birdmun> i would imagine you would be able to adjust the refresh rate in xorg.conf
[09:46] <fokuslee> sabrebutt i need 64bit
[09:46] <Moosejaw> yah but im not sure where...
[09:46] <Moosejaw> exactly
[09:46] <birdmun> and it would prolly be the setting for the monitor
[09:46] <wluz> yuk: you still there?
[09:46] <birdmun> prolly the horizontal and vertical frequencies
[09:46] <Moosejaw> ok...
[09:47] <birdmun> im just guessing mind you
[09:47] <sabrebutt> Oh, crap fokuslee
[09:47] <Moosejaw> no i think youre right...was just hoping for a good cut and paste
[09:47] <Moosejaw> what should i try setting it at 85?
[09:47] <birdmun> i have a keyboard that is misbehaving but only when im in x
[09:47] <yuk> wluz: lspci
[09:47] <birdmun> what monitor?
[09:47] <fokuslee> sabrebutt:  yeah i was just wondering if the recent update broke it or just my own problem
[09:47] <fokuslee> sabrebutt so urs is working fine rite?
[09:48] <yuk> wluz: your adaptor is a usb  or pcmica?
[09:48] <aldin> would someone be so kind to do sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -d upgrade just to see if security repo is ok
[09:48] <wluz> pcmcia
[09:49] <pitti> aldin: WFM
[09:49] <wluz> lspci lists a bunch of intel things, and then Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Unknown device 4329 (rev 01)
[09:49] <aldin> pitti: Err http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main libavahi-core4 0.6.13-2ubuntu2.3
[09:49] <aldin>   404 Not Found
[09:49] <sabrebutt> Yeah, that's the only one I can find that should work fokuslee
[09:49] <sabrebutt> Yeah
[09:50] <aldin> pitti: because two day i cant get upgraded lik it should be
[09:50] <sabrebutt> And I'm on 32 bit
[09:50] <sabrebutt> But the recent update did crash me too
[09:50] <yuk> wluz: do u know the chipset of the adaptor?
[09:50] <aldin> have 4 packages that cant be upgraded
[09:50] <sabrebutt> I hope they fix it.
[09:50] <PORDO> anyone know what could be causing my alsa buffer under runs? never had this problem before, until i got dmix working it seems.
[09:50] <pitti> aldin: hm, edgy has ubuntu2.4 now
[09:51] <pitti> aldin: seems like you need an apt-get update first
[09:51] <birdmun> Moosejaw,  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[09:51] <aldin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/925/
[09:51] <aldin> pitti: what can u explain me
[09:51] <aldin> pitti: i didi apt-get update and it is ok
[09:51] <phr34ck> how can I redirect a command's output to the clipboard? Like I want to redirect the output as if I copied the output.
[09:51] <pitti> aldin: weird
[09:52] <wluz> yuk: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List claims it's Atheros, but that's for European, it's actually Broadcom
[09:52] <pitti> aldin: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz clearly has 2.4
[09:52] <birdmun> no dice on the keyboard help huh?
[09:52] <aldin> pitti: here is apt-get update:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/926/
[09:52] <yuk> add blacklist bcm43xx to //etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and reboot
[09:53] <aldin> pitti: what is 2.4?
[09:53] <aldin> kernel or what
[09:53] <pitti> aldin: no, version 0.6.13-2ubuntu2.4
[09:53] <aldin> 2.4 version of something
[09:53] <fokuslee> sabrebutt: But the recent update did crash me to" meaning ur kiba-dock doesn't work anymore rite?
[09:53] <aldin> what do u suggest
[09:53] <pitti> aldin: are you behind a proxy or something?
[09:54] <aldin> not that i know
[09:54] <aldin> u saw that i can do update
[09:54] <wluz> yuk: bcm43xx was blacklisted on this boot
[09:54] <pitti> aldin: you could try sudo apt-get update -o Acquire::Http::No-Cache=true
[09:54] <aldin> upgrade allmost 208 Mb did but these wont
[09:55] <aldin> pitti: i did "sudo apt-get update -o Acquire::Http::No-Cache=true" but upgrade complains again
[09:55] <yuk> wluz: try see dmesg carefully
[09:56] <riotkittie> oye.
[09:56] <sabrebutt> fokuslee: Right, because of the new plugin system. Trevino hasn't put a working version in his repo, and Iuse his repo for beryl. It updated from the 32 bit version from that forum.
[09:56] <sabrebutt> But I was able to reinstall it.
[09:56] <wluz> yuk:  what should I be looking for?
[09:57] <yuk> wluz: ndiswrapper
[09:57] <ptley> phr34ck: sudo apt-get install xclip; echo "hello world" | xclip
[09:57] <yuk> wluz: wlan0
[09:57] <fokuslee> sabrebutt yeah but for me reinstalling doesn't even work like it won't even run like nothing happens not even error
[09:57] <phr34ck> ptley, thanks.
[09:57] <fokuslee> sabrebutt:  i guess itz ok itz not dat important
[09:58] <fokuslee> sabrebutt: thx a bunch have my fingers crossed
[09:58] <sabrebutt> Yeah, I'd say they're going to be stepping up development pretty soon on that, fokuslee. Hope you can get it working
[09:58] <aldin> i mean Get:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-proposed/main libc6 2.4-1ubuntu12.1 [4129kB] 
[09:58] <aldin> is working at the moment, but these like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/927/ wont
[09:59] <phr34ck> ptley, it only works for the terminal.
[09:59] <pitti> aldin: what does 'apt-cache madison libavahi-core4' show you?
[09:59] <wluz> yuk: PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing;  PC: If a device doesn't work try "pci=routeirq". If it helps post a report   <--- does this matter?
[09:59] <phr34ck> I want somehting to use on the desktop, for example, I want to be able to use the "Hello world" whenever I right clikc and choose paste.
[09:59] <yuk> wluz: maybe not
[09:59] <patbam> hi, is there any way to print an html page from the command line? (as rendered in a browser, not as html)
[10:00] <yuk> patbam: w3m xxx.html
[10:00] <patbam> yuk: thanks
[10:00] <aldin> pitti: her u go: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/928/
[10:01] <wluz> yuk: ndiswrapper version 1.34 loaded (preempt-no,smp=yes)
[10:01] <yuk> wluz: could you send the dmesg output to my mailbox?
[10:01] <MATTiAS> got a problem with a hd , got the reiser fs , is there anyway to rebuild the filesystem on this dev ?
[10:02] <aldin> wluz: sudo apt-get ndiswrapper-utils-1.8
[10:02] <aldin> before that remove old one
[10:02] <wluz> yuk: sure
[10:02] <yuk> wluz: sinoyster#at#gmail#dot#com
[10:02] <aldin> pitti: ?
[10:03] <sherlock> hallo brauche hilfe af deutsch
[10:03] <wluz> aldin: will try that
[10:04] <MATTiAS> http://rafb.net/p/NYNpRi64.html
[10:04] <aldin> wluz: it works for my bradcom bcm43xx
[10:04] <MATTiAS> ?
[10:04] <karakara> is there any way i can benchmark gnome? seems really slow on this laptop
[10:04] <Enlight_uni> sherlock, ther probably exists a #ubuntu-de chan
[10:04] <sherlock> thanks
[10:04] <pitti> aldin: if you open http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz in Firefox, you'll see the package entry for avahi at the top. What's the 'Version:'?
[10:05] <Enlight_uni> sherlock, ich bitte dich
[10:05] <pitti> aldin: I get 2.4, but it might be that one of the mirrors is out of date
[10:07] <eontasticness> hey all
[10:07] <aldin> pitti: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/929/
[10:07] <birdmun> eontasticness, hello
[10:07] <eontasticness> something keeps editing my resolv.conf and changing my dns to some off the wall server
[10:07] <pitti> aldin: ok, that's correct
[10:07] <eontasticness> any idea what might be causing this?
[10:07] <pitti> aldin: there seems to be a problem with apt-get update
[10:07] <eontasticness> keeps changing it to 192.168.158.x
[10:07] <pitti> aldin: if you do 'host security.ubuntu.com', what does it show? (just paste it here, it's one line)
[10:07] <eontasticness> i dont have any dhcp servers giving this dns
[10:08] <aldin> pitti: yeah, i see 2.4 but it wants 2.3 which isnt there what to do now
[10:08] <wluz> yuk: sent
[10:08] <hyphenated> eontasticness: DHCP
[10:08] <karakara> my load is around 0.6 with firefox running.. is that bad?
[10:08] <pitti> aldin: this file defines what 'you want'
[10:08] <eontasticness> hyphenated: the only dhcp server here is handin out 192.168.1.1
[10:08] <hyphenated> eontasticness: hmm..how often is it changing?
[10:08] <eontasticness> for dns
[10:08] <eontasticness> hyphenated: i can change it back, and itll be a bad dns in about 10 minutes
[10:08] <eontasticness> give or take
[10:08] <Enlight_uni> karakara, .6% ?
[10:08] <aldin> pitti: security.ubuntu.com has address 82.211.81.138
[10:09] <aldin> btw. thanks for helping me
[10:09] <hyphenated> eontasticness: can you ping the destination?
[10:09] <luddite> hi all- i just installed a new 3rd disk for ubuntu with my original config (winXP on IDE1 Primary) and IDE1 Secondary(for data). The new 3rd disk for ubuntu is Called IDE2 Primary hd2 and it failed.
[10:09] <eontasticness> it started when i installed vmware but i killed all the vm* services and it still does it
[10:09] <luddite> Has anyone had similar probs and what can you do to remediate?
[10:09] <luddite> (the error is still up) im still in the install running the live cd to access this. no reboot yet.
[10:09] <karakara> uptime reports 0.6 load
[10:09] <n30n> !ubuntu
[10:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[10:09] <karakara> no percent symbol
[10:09] <eontasticness> hyphenated: no
[10:09] <sunexplodes> Hey, nobody's awake in the xubuntu room, is anybody in here familiar with Thunar?
[10:09] <eontasticness> its on a different subnet
[10:09] <pitti> aldin: ok, so we two happen to use the very same host
[10:10] <hyphenated> eontasticness: vmware used to load kernel stuff, not sure if it still does. it's possible that just killing the apps didn't remove the kernel badness
[10:10] <pitti> aldin: can you please try 'sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*_Release*' and apt-get update again?
[10:10] <eontasticness> it just doesn't make sense that it would edit my dns settings repeatedly though
[10:10] <pitti> aldin: this will re-fetch all the lists
[10:11] <pitti> aldin: after that, does 'apt-cache madison avahi' show 2.4?
[10:11] <aldin> pitti: any more ideas, i am concerned that anyone hasnt that problem here too, or they hav not that repos in sources.list
[10:11] <Enlight_uni> karakara, seems huge
[10:11] <karakara> hmm is there a gnome app like the windows task manager? to show load and stuff?
[10:11] <Enlight_uni> karakara, but if the machine is up for few time and you did massive cpu work, it can explain it
[10:12] <aldin> pitti: i am on dial up if i delete these list fles i will stuck about 49mins to get result
[10:12] <Enlight_uni> karakara, you can use top, htop, gkrellm2 etc...
[10:12] <aldin> or just sec i could leave deb main universe multiverse restricted
[10:12] <aldin> and just comment security than update
[10:12] <aldin> pitti: ?
[10:13] <wluz> aldin: that's interesting, it seems that ndiswrapper-1.34 is not installed, 1.8 is, but it says 1.34 in dmesg
[10:13] <karakara> enlight tnx ill checx out gkrellm i think
[10:13] <PORDO> i'm unable to play anything i've downloaded with democracy player. :(
[10:13] <pitti> aldin: ah, ok
[10:13] <yuk> wluz: have you install ndiswrapper before?
[10:13] <pitti> aldin: no problem, then do 'sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com*_Release*'
[10:14] <pitti> aldin: the security updates are pretty small, they should be quick to download on dial-up
[10:14] <Enlight_uni> karakara, use completion, I didn't saw the highlight
[10:14] <pitti> aldin: i. e. the package lists for the security updates
[10:14] <wluz> yuk: nope, just started with ubuntu tonight
[10:14] <wluz> yuk: on a fresh hdd
[10:14] <aldin> pitti: i did it, now waiting...
[10:14] <yuk> wluz: dmesg.txt show nothing about the adaptor
[10:15] <wluz> so what does that mean?
[10:15] <luddite> hello i have a install error for ubuntu 6.10. (im just switching from winXP). can anyone help please?
[10:15] <yuk> wluz: apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.8
[10:15] <Bruco16> luddite: what is the msg?
[10:15] <yuk> wluz: have u apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.8  before?
[10:16] <aldin> pitti: still... Err http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main libavahi-common-data 0.6.13-2ubuntu2.3
[10:16] <aldin>   404 Not Found
[10:16] <Enlight_uni> luddite, tell peoples about the error and people will see if they are able to help or not.
[10:16] <wluz> yeah, earlier
[10:16] <wluz> yuk: 0 upgraded, 0 nely listed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[10:16] <aldin> pitti just sec, i will comment them and try again
[10:16] <yuk> wluz: ndiswrapper -l ?
[10:17] <luddite> Ok
[10:17] <wluz> yuk: yes, it's installed (gives me the help menu)
[10:19] <karakara> my cpu is red lining just to close an app o_O
[10:19] <wluz> yuk: ndiswrapper -v -> driver version: 1.34
[10:19] <aldin> pitti: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/930/
[10:19] <wazzu> Is is possible to remove gnome-games without having to remove gnome-desktop?
[10:19] <karakara> this is wierd.. win2003 server had better performance
[10:19] <wluz> should it say that, or should it say 1.8?
[10:19] <karakara> is it possible my vid drivers arent intalled or are messed up?
[10:19] <kyelewis> hey y'all
[10:20] <Bruco16> hi bud
[10:20] <kyelewis> my ubuntu install just went a little strange :D
[10:20] <jerp_> wazzu, you can remove the folder in the menu
[10:20] <kyelewis> er... :(
[10:20] <pitti> aldin: well, but now you are without security updates
[10:20] <aldin> pitti: my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/931/
[10:20] <frogzoo> karakara: glxinfo |grep direct
[10:20] <aldin> i know i just uncommented them an doing reupdate
[10:20] <Bruco16> kyelewis: any particular msg? what kind of PC?
[10:20] <jerp_> right click on applications
[10:21] <yuk> wluz: maybe 1.8 is the version of ndiswrapper-utils
[10:21] <kyelewis> yeah, i'll get to that. the deal is, on trying to install vista, i accidentally selected the wrong partition to delete and got /boot all nice and gone
[10:21] <pitti> aldin: btw, you might want to throw out the deb-src lines if you are on modem
[10:21] <wazzu> jerp: I can do that but I want to remove gnome-games from the system.  I am a little short on disk space.
[10:21] <luddite> I have 3 disks
[10:21] <luddite> IDE1 Master - Windows XP and 2 partitions(NTFS and FAT32)
[10:21] <luddite> IDE1 Slave - Data disk - 2 partitions(Both NTFS)
[10:21] <luddite> IDE2 Master - New Ubuntu disk
[10:21] <luddite> I ran install from 6.10 install disk and selected IDE2 with defaults.  Then I changed GRUB (Ubiquity) from installing on hd0 to hd2.
[10:21] <luddite> It installed to the end then showed this error https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/76335/comments/1
[10:21] <pitti> aldin: (unless you actually want to fetch source packages)
[10:21] <kyelewis> i got it back, through rescue, etc, but now half of my stuff isn't working; it'd be nice to put it down to something other than a re-install
[10:21] <karakara> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:21] <karakara> direct rendering: No
[10:21] <karakara> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[10:21] <wluz> yuk: that could be, because it says ndiswrapper is already installed, and all the user has to instal is the -utils- part.
[10:22] <yuk> wluz: 1.34 is the version of ndiswrapper kernel module
[10:22] <kyelewis> i'm also now recieving a bios bug message that i never used to recieve
[10:22] <wluz> yuk: how do I list installed packages?
[10:22] <jerp_> frogzoo,  I'm TroLiNg, HelP mE!!!!
[10:22] <jerp_> :P
[10:22] <karakara> frogzoo, Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:22] <karakara> direct rendering: No
[10:22] <karakara> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[10:22] <BrianG> AmelieFree is spamming me when i join #ubuntu
[10:23] <BrianG> Seveas: ping
[10:23] <aldin> pitti: now it works maaaaaaan http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/932/ it now get the v2.4
[10:23] <pitti> aldin: hm, weird
[10:23] <Seveas> BrianG, ?
[10:23] <kyelewis> PCI: BIOS BUG 8#81[49435024]  found
[10:23] <kyelewis> PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 7 of bridge 0000:00:04.0  (also region 8 :04.0  region 9 :04.0 region 7 :05.0 region 7 :05.0)
[10:23] <BrianG> Seveas: AmelieFree is spamming me when i join #ubuntu
[10:23] <frogzoo> karakara: what's your vid driver? you're using the stock svga, which will be very poor
[10:23] <aldin> pitti: just this is little worry WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[10:23] <Seveas> thanks!
[10:23] <BrianG> thanks
[10:23] <aldin>   libc6-dev libc6 libc6-i686 tzdata
[10:24] <karakara> frogzoo, no idea - should i lspci?
[10:24] <aldin> pitti: i gues i had old security in list folder
[10:24] <aldin> but i dot get why
[10:24] <saveetha> hi
[10:24] <frogzoo> karakara: well you'll need to find out what your video card is, then install the correct driver
[10:24] <Bruco16> luddite: how have you set your MBR during the install?
[10:24] <yuk> wluz: synaptic
[10:25] <Bruco16> kyelewis: rescue from liveCD?
[10:25] <karakara> its a sis350.. question is where do i grab a driver?
[10:25] <kyelewis> rescue as in... reinstall?
[10:25] <Bruco16> luddite; is grub actually running ok?
[10:25] <saveetha> can any one help me how to install SYNOPSYS software in UBUNTU
[10:26] <luddite> Bruce16: it seemed to run ok. until the very end
[10:26] <Bruco16> kyelewis: no, i think system's rescue is in read-only mode and liveCD rescue isn't
[10:26] <aldin> pitti: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/933/
[10:26] <luddite> i havent rebooted yet
[10:26] <kyelewis> Bruco16: i'm in ubuntu in a normal bootup
[10:26] <luddite> Bruce16: it crashed at the searching for other installs section i think
[10:26] <kyelewis> it's just that wireless hardware isn't detected and beryl won't run
[10:27] <kyelewis> for some reason
[10:27] <wluz> yuk: all ndiswrapper files are 1.8, except utils which is 1.1-5, so why would it report 1.34?
[10:27] <Bruco16> kyelewis: i don't know anything about wireless stuff ^.^
[10:27] <aldin> pitti: thanks for helping me i am out see you, bye
[10:28] <pitti> aldin: bye
[10:28] <kyelewis> i think i might be able to put the beryl problem down to issues with the gconf being corrupted at some point
[10:28] <kyelewis> as i'm getting errors about that :P
[10:28] <Bruco16> luddite: is XP running?
[10:28] <karakara> anyone know how i can install/find a SiS graphics driver?
[10:29] <I-kido> www.sis.com
[10:29] <yuk> wluz: maybe 1.1-5 is the old version
[10:29] <luddite> Bruce: i havent rebooted yet. Live CD is still running.
[10:30] <luddite> i guess it would still be running(fingers crossed
[10:30] <wluz> yuk: but then why would it report 1.34 in dmesg
[10:30] <Bruco16> luddice: and you're telling me that you're in the partitionning? is that it?
[10:30] <wluz> Should I intall a different version of Ubuntu?
[10:30] <Bruco16> luddice: aboutt to install?
[10:31] <eontasticness> is there any way to tell what process is writing to a file?
[10:31] <kyelewis> FATAL: Error inserting ath_rate_sample...
[10:31] <kyelewis> grr :(
[10:31] <emss> eontasticness: lsof? and /proc
[10:32] <luddite> bruce - nearly completed install with 9 seconds to go it said
[10:32] <mike_tenerife> hello everybody
[10:32] <tulga> I need config samba with mysql authentication on ubuntu. I tried google. but not good result. please help me
[10:32] <Bruco16> ok
[10:33] <Bruco16> luddite: have you look at your iptables config? i think it's wide open by default...
[10:33] <Bruco16> ^^
[10:33] <Bruco16> (rem)
[10:33] <yuk> wluz: maybe you could try compile ndiswrapper, maybe
[10:33] <yuk> wluz: maybe you could try compile ndiswrapper, maybe
[10:33] <mike_tenerife> somebody can explain why amsn is working perfectly on Dreamlinux and NOT on Ubuntu please?
[10:33] <luddite> bruce: no but i cant see why IPtables would matter: but please explain how it may help...
[10:34] <Bruco16> luddice: were the error msg in the parted (partition editor)?
[10:34] <wluz> yuk: I tried that but I got some errors.  I came here and someone suggested just getting the apt version
[10:34] <luddite> yes
[10:34] <luddite> Traceback (most recent call last):
[10:34] <luddite>   File "/usr/bin/ubiquity", line 166, in ?
[10:34] <luddite>     main()
[10:34] <luddite>   File "/usr/bin/ubiquity", line 161, in main
[10:34] <luddite>     install(sys.argv[1] )
[10:34] <luddite>   File "/usr/bin/ubiquity", line 57, in install
[10:34] <luddite>     ret = wizard.run()
[10:34] <luddite>   File "/usr/lib/ubiquity/ubiquity/frontend/gtkui.py", line 305, in run
[10:34] <luddite>     self.process_step()
[10:34] <luddite>   File "/usr/lib/ubiquity/ubiquity/frontend/gtkui.py", line 856, in process_step
[10:34] <luddite>     self.progress_loop()
[10:34] <luddite>   File "/usr/lib/ubiquity/ubiquity/frontend/gtkui.py", line 628, in progress_loop
[10:34] <fabio__|> if I look in "top" i see a running "apt-get" that I didn't launch, how can I know what is doing that apt-get ? thanks.
[10:34] <luddite>     raise RuntimeError, ("Install failed with exit code %s\n%s" %
[10:34] <luddite> RuntimeError: Install failed with exit code 1
[10:34] <luddite> Traceback (most recent call last):
[10:34] <luddite>   File "/usr/share/ubiquity/install.py", line 1404, in ?
[10:34] <luddite>     install.run()
[10:34] <luddite>   File "/usr/share/ubiquity/install.py", line 385, in run
[10:34] <luddite>     self.configure_bootloader()
[10:35] <luddite>   File "/usr/share/ubiquity/install.py", line 1163, in configure_bootloader
[10:35] <zOap> luddite, fuck off
[10:35] <luddite>     raise InstallStepError(
[10:35] <luddite> InstallStepError: GrubInstaller failed with code 1
[10:35] <zOap> luddite, stop that
[10:35] <lifeisafractal_> list
[10:35] <Bruco16> LOL
[10:35] <Bruco16> ouf
[10:35] <fabio__|> if I look in "top" i see a running "apt-get" that I didn't launch, how can I know what is doing that apt-get ? thanks
[10:36] <Bruco16> you installed it from XP or from cold machine startup?
[10:36] <luddite> sorry - GAIM wont do line breaks :-(
[10:36] <luddite> Cold Machine Start
[10:36] <kyelewis> i'm an idiot
[10:36] <kyelewis> :)
[10:36] <zOap> luddite, pastebin
[10:37] <kyelewis> "and it all came to me when i realised those modules not working just happened to be non-free or restricted modules.. and lo and behold, he said... i never re-installed those. damn."
[10:38] <fabio__|> i have a running apt-get and i don't know what is doing, how can i know it?
[10:38] <tuna-fish-> fabio: are you sure that the apt-get is not in one of the serial consoles (ctrl-alt-F1...F6)?
[10:38] <pianoman> hello
[10:38] <karakara> i cant find a sis 350 driver :(
[10:38] <karakara> for leenux
[10:38] <curs0r> i suspect that my audio is stuck in 5.1 mode, anyone know how to change it to 2.0?
[10:39] <pianoman> what is the standard password for "sudo" ?? When I installed this, I don't remember ever being asked for an admin password
[10:39] <tuna-fish-> fabio: one method to find something about a running process is to stuble around /proc/(the process id)/
[10:39] <fabio__|> 4624 root      25   0 16288  12m  10m R 92.6  2.5  28:38.47 apt-get
[10:40] <fabio__|> tuna-fish-: i loo there
[10:40] <fabio__|> i look there.
[10:40] <tuna-fish-> the thing has HUGE cu usage
[10:40] <tuna-fish-> *cpu
[10:41] <fabio__|>  cat cmdline
[10:41] <fabio__|> apt-getinstallsambasmbfsfabio@localhost:/proc/4624$
[10:41] <fabio__|> i executed that apt-get install samba smbfs
[10:41] <Ivanowitch> the standard passwd for sudo is your own password, pianoman
[10:42] <tuna-fish-> I say term it
[10:42] <fabio__|> but when i executed it, it told me that someone else already had the lock
[10:42] <zOap> pianoman, sudo is root privelidges without having to log in as root..
[10:42] <tuna-fish-> if it was doing something useful it would have done it already in 28:38.47
[10:43] <Bruco16> sudo if the user has admin privileges
[10:43] <Bruco16> sudo -i
[10:43] <wluz> Ok, I have one last question before I give up.  If I pop out my wireless adapter after ubuntu boots, or if I remove the wired LAN after it boots, the network will not work again until I reboot.  Any thoughts?
[10:43] <pianoman> thanks!
[10:44] <Bruco16> hotplugs ^^
[10:45] <pianoman> out of curiosity (I don't remember ever being asked for a 'root' password at setup), is the root password the same as well?
[10:46] <Bruco16> pianoman: i changed it from system's rescue
[10:46] <azamoum17> salut
[10:46] <Ivanowitch> pianoman, no, the root password is empty as default, and the root account is disabled
[10:46] <wluz> yuk: Thanks for all your help, you put more effor into this than I expected.  I am giving up.  Have a great night
[10:46] <Amaranth> !sudo | pianoman
[10:46] <ubotu> pianoman: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:46] <frogzoo> karakara: looks like there's a driver called 'sis' that should work
[10:46] <azamoum17> tu parle kel luange
[10:47] <Bruco16> patience ^^
[10:47] <kyelewis> aha, beryl lovin' :)
[10:47] <karakara> frogzoo, so how de heck i load it? modprobe?
[10:47] <azamoum17> koi comen tu tapelle
[10:47] <jpjacobs> !fr>azamoum17
[10:47] <pianoman> part of the reasoning for this question is I'm trying to install Wine, and can't locate "system-administrator-synaptic"
[10:47] <XiXaQ> is there a keyboard shortcut for the Applications menu?
[10:47] <jpjacobs> alt-f1
[10:48] <azamoum17> t 2 quel sexe
[10:48] <XiXaQ> great! Thanks :)
[10:48] <Bruco16> pianoman: try "synaptic" (as root or sudo)
[10:48] <zOap> azamoum17, get a life
[10:48] <azamoum17> toi aussi
[10:48] <Bruco16> XiXaq: make it yourself via system > prefrences > shoortcuts
[10:49] <pianoman> says it can't open display
[10:49] <XiXaQ> Bruco16, yes, but that that isn't very easy if you don't have a mouse in the first place :)
[10:49] <azamoum17> je c pa se ki ce passe m tu f qoi
[10:49] <Bruco16> pianoman: for me it works fine (??)
[10:50] <azamoum17> i donit understand
[10:50] <Bruco16> xixaq: hum...
[10:50] <azamoum17> koi
[10:50] <azamoum17> je vi te le dire je parle pa anglais
[10:51] <Bruco16> azamoum: kess kia?
[10:51] <karakara> uhmmm how can i restart X11?
[10:51] <frogzoo> karakara: try installing xserver-xorg-video-sis - & then update /etc/X11/xorg.conf's driver def'n
[10:51] <pianoman> ugh...looks I have to go back to command lines a little bit...lol. Haven't done that since I used RedHat quite a few years ago
[10:51] <Enlight_uni> azamoum17, y'a un channel ubuntu-fr
[10:51] <jpjacobs> !fr|azamoum17
[10:51] <ubotu> azamoum17: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:51] <Ivanowitch> karakara, just press ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:51] <Bruco16> karakara: try ctrl-alt-backspace
[10:52] <Enlight_uni> karakara, something like /etc/init.d/kdm restart ?
[10:52] <azamoum17> I DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH
[10:52] <Bruco16> azamoum: je peux t'aider???
[10:52] <Enlight_uni> azamoum17, c'est bien pour a que je t'ai rpondu en franais!
[10:52] <azamoum17> MERCI
[10:52] <Ivanowitch> azamoum17, perhaps not, but you spell english better than french though :S
[10:52] <jpjacobs> !caps
[10:52] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[10:53] <karakara> frogzoo, its already installed
[10:53] <azamoum17> TU NE COMPANT RIEN JE PARLE PA ENGLAI
[10:53] <Enlight_uni> ubotu, rofl
[10:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rofl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:53] <pianoman> thanks guys! hope this all works out now
[10:53] <Bruco16> [trad:] SVP ne crie pas, on peut lire en minuscule :)
[10:53] <Enlight_uni> ermf talkin' to a bot :/
[10:53] <azamoum17> TU LE FAIT EXPR
[10:53] <jpjacobs> azamoum17, donc va a #ubuntu-fr ceci est un channel englais.
[10:54] <Enlight_uni> azamoum17, c'est un bot qui te dis d'crire en miniscule, a devient saoulant l
[10:54] <Bruco16> azamoum: lache le caf, reviens sur terre et explique nous ton problme mrde
[10:54] <frogzoo> karakara: so check /etc/X11/xorg.conf is calling the right driver
[10:54] <azamoum17> KEL PROBLEM
[10:54] <Enlight_uni> ermf on est tpous franais en fait oO
[10:54] <azamoum17> G PA DE PROB
[10:54] <Enlight_uni> azamoum17, tes hmorodes
[10:54] <Bruco16> azamoum: alors tu veux jaser
[10:54] <azamoum17> KOI
[10:55] <Bruco16> azamoum: jaser de quoi?
[10:55] <karakara> Section "Device"
[10:55] <karakara>         Identifier      "Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) 315PRO PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter"
[10:55] <karakara>         Driver          "sis"
[10:55] <karakara>         BusID           "PCI:0:9:0"
[10:55] <karakara> EndSection
[10:55] <Ivanowitch> when did this become a french channel?....
[10:55] <azamoum17> ON SE CON MM PA
[10:55] <karakara> frogzoo, seems to be right..
[10:55] <Bruco16> since there's no #ubuntufr i guess
[10:55] <Bruco16> ^^
[10:55] <frogzoo> karakara: so check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:55] <yoshiznit123> oui tout le monde parle en francais :-)
[10:55] <Enlight_uni> azamoum17, still it seems that you're a terrible annoyance
[10:55] <frogzoo> karakara: look for lines starting with EE
[10:55] <Enlight_uni> brubuntu-fr
[10:56] <azamoum17> JE COMPRAN
[10:56] <Bruco16> language binaire mdr
[10:56] <frogzoo> yoshiznit123: ce n'est pas ca
[10:56] <Enlight_uni> Bruco16, #ubuntu-fr existe
[10:56] <Bruco16> merci :)
[10:56] <Enlight_uni> Bruco16, you're welcome
[10:56] <azamoum17> EXPLIQUE POR KE JE COMPAN
[10:56] <azamoum17> MRD
[10:56] <yoshiznit123> hey, how come when i try to join ubuntu-fr it says i'm banned? i've never even joined before...
[10:56] <karakara> frogzoo, there arent any :o (used grep)
[10:57] <jpjacobs> azamoum17, fait ceci: /join #ubuntu-fr
[10:57] <Bruco16> azamoum: tapes: "/join #ubuntu-fr"
[10:57] <azamoum17> PORKOI
[10:57] <Bruco16> parce que c'est plein de franais l!!!!
[10:57] <Enlight_uni> azamoum17, simple : 1) tu fais chier tout le monde avec tes majuscules, 2) si t'as envie de parler franais, tu sors et tu vas sur #ubuntu-fr
[10:57] <Tenric> Any English speakers?
[10:57] <Enlight_uni> Tenric, for sure
[10:57] <jpjacobs> ofcourse
[10:57] <Lynoure> Tenric: most people here.
[10:57] <Tenric> ok
[10:57] <Bruco16> half of the world
[10:57] <Tenric> hehe
[10:57] <yoshiznit123> lol
[10:58] <azamoum17> je c pa comen faire
[10:58] <frogzoo> Tenric: this is an english chan
[10:58] <Ivanowitch> yep, but we seem to me a minority  here... :S
[10:58] <Enlight_uni> Tenric, oh, native you meant?
[10:58] <jpjacobs> !ops
[10:58] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[10:58] <zOap> don't you understand that azamoum17 is just trolling?
[10:58] <karakara> DRI is on, mode 0666
[10:58] <azamoum17> sa marche pa
[10:58] <eontasticness> this is the most retarded shit ever
[10:58] <eontasticness> i set my ip and dns and everything statically
[10:58] <azamoum17> lol
[10:58] <Enlight_uni> azamoum17, /join #ubuntu-fr
[10:58] <eontasticness> and the dns is still changing
[10:58] <eontasticness> on its own
[10:59] <frogzoo> eontasticness: not retarted, working as designed
[10:59] <azamoum17> je compran rien a ce ke tu di
[10:59] <Tenric> I just got a Microsoft Intellimouse and Intellitype keyboard. The mouse has basic functionality, but the scroller and extra buttons won't work.
[10:59] <yoshiznit123> Enlight_uni, i'm trying to /join #ubuntu-fr, but it says i'm banned, why could that be? i've never been on that channel before...
[10:59] <fredl> has anybody here tried one of the big wide-screen LCD monitors on Ubuntu?
[10:59] <Tenric> Now, that'd be fun.
[10:59] <azamoum17> ecrie en fancais merd
[11:00] <Enlight_uni> yoshiznit123, try with a different nickname maybe
[11:00] <Tenric> So could someone help me?
[11:00] <Enlight_uni> azamoum17, non ici c'est un chan anglais bordel
[11:00] <frogzoo> eontasticness: in the file /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider  - comment out the 'usepeerdns'
[11:00] <azamoum17> porkoi tu me la pa di
[11:00] <fredl> I'm thinking of buying this screen: http://www.mycom.nl/Products/View/iiyama_22_E2200WSB1_TFT_Wide/131107.aspx
[11:00] <jpjacobs> azamoum17, donc c'est vraiment simple: tappez "/join #ubuntu-fr" et puis enter.
[11:00] <fredl> but it'd be sad if it wouldn't work well on Ubuntu
[11:00] <Enlight_uni> azamoum17, -_-
[11:00] <frogzoo> karakara: yeh, no idea, sounds like you should have everything you need though
[11:01] <Tenric> very.
[11:01] <Dormot> hey guys, im wondering how i can make my pc a web server to host a website
[11:01] <azamoum17> atend je le tape au
[11:01] <karakara> augh @_@
[11:01] <Tenric> Um..?
[11:01] <Bruco16> tenric: ...
[11:01] <karakara> restart x11 time..
[11:01] <frogzoo> Dormot: install apache2
[11:01] <Enlight_uni> azamoum17, tous els chans qui ne sont pas prefixs par un identifiant de pays sont en gnral des chgans anglais
[11:01] <Enlight_uni> chzans
[11:01] <Enlight_uni> chans putain
[11:01] <Tenric> Yes, Bruco?
[11:01] <Bruco16> Tenric: you chose ">generic< usb device" in install?
[11:01] <jpjacobs> !lang even in french
[11:01] <Dormot> ok
[11:02] <yoshiznit123> Enlight_uni, i tried changing nicks but it still doesnt work, is it on irc.ubuntu.com or irc.freenode.net?
[11:02] <Tenric> I didn't install.  No software.
[11:02] <azamoum17> je te dit ke je c pa commen faire mrd
[11:02] <Tenric> Just plugged.
[11:02] <Tenric> What I think I need is a driver
[11:02] <Bruco16> tenric: i have the same mouse, and it works fine
[11:02] <Tenric> Hm.
[11:02] <Tenric> What version Ubuntu?
[11:02] <jpjacobs> yoshiznit123, on irc.freenodo there is one for sure
[11:02] <Bruco16> edgy
[11:02] <Tenric> ok
[11:02] <Tenric> did the mouse come with software?
[11:03] <jpjacobs>  /ignore azamoum17
[11:03] <Bruco16> no
[11:03] <jpjacobs> ow damn space
[11:03] <yoshiznit123> jpjacobs, argh it keeps on telling me i'm banned
[11:03] <Tenric> ok
[11:03] <Tenric> so how do I install it?
[11:03] <Dormot> burepe you there
[11:03] <Bruco16> tenric: i just don't know the specific command :(
[11:04] <Bruco16> but if you find it, try choosing generic instead of MSIntellimouse
[11:04] <Tenric> Ah.
[11:04] <vect0rx> so ive been going through trauma trying to get an old, but cool usb device to function under linux
[11:04] <vect0rx> it has chipsets that simply arent supported
[11:04] <Tenric> I don't know if it's even set on MSIntellimouse
[11:04] <Dormot> frogzoo, how do i access it now that its installed
[11:04] <vect0rx> and takes proprietary reset codes in the MS apps is works with
[11:05] <fredl> has anybody here tried one of the big wide-screen LCD monitors on Ubuntu?
[11:05] <karakara> ls
[11:05] <Dormot> im new to linux so i dont know much
[11:05] <vect0rx> if i use usbsnoop to copy what xp does to make it work can I not release that
[11:05] <vect0rx> fradl, last night
[11:05] <Tenric> Does anyone here know what command to use to set up a mouse?
[11:05] <karakara> lol whoops
[11:05] <vect0rx> it took all damn night
[11:05] <pianoman> ok..the file /etc/apt/sources.list apparently is read-only...and I need to edit it and add the lines for downloading/installing Wine
[11:05] <vect0rx> if you consider 46" lcd big
[11:06] <fredl> vect0rx, thats HUGE :)
[11:06] <lifeisafractal_> pianoman: you have to be root to edit it
[11:06] <zOap> pianoman, it's root
[11:06] <fredl> I'm trying to figure out if this screen http://www.mycom.nl/Products/View/iiyama_22_E2200WSB1_TFT_Wide/131107.aspx will work well for me.
[11:06] <zOap> pianoman, that's where the sudo comes in..
[11:06] <vect0rx> a lot better than the laptop's 1024x768 14-15" but not much higher res in the vert
[11:07] <pianoman> ok, if I do it in the console then (nano /etc/apt/sources.list) how do I save and close the editor portion?
[11:07] <pianoman> I couldn't figure out how to save, so I decided to open it in a text editor
[11:07] <Tenric> does anyone know the command for setting up a mouse?
[11:07] <zOap> pianoman, you should have opened the editor with gksu
[11:07] <jpjacobs> yoshiznit123, dunno, i'll ask whether there are ops on #ubuntu-fr (it's only the first time i'm there :))
[11:07] <pianoman> oh...
[11:08] <yoshiznit123> jpjacobs, ok thanks :-)
[11:08] <pianoman> I opened it through "Applications"
[11:08] <Enlight_uni> Tenric, depends on what you mean by setting a mouse
[11:08] <vect0rx> at 1650x1050 is what i run at work (xp box though(
[11:08] <vect0rx> nice to work with
[11:08] <zOap> pianoman, man browse to the file in terminal. type: gksu <editorname> /file &
[11:08] <Tenric> I just need to configure it
[11:09] <vect0rx> i think a desktop should have almost no problem, hardware memory permitting and corrent/new enough drivers
[11:09] <vect0rx> old laptops are a bitch though for doing that to an external display
[11:09] <Enlight_uni> Tenric, for X, for console?
[11:09] <Tenric> please clarify
[11:09] <Enlight_uni> Tenric, exactly what I was going to ask you
[11:10] <Tenric> oh, for console
[11:10] <Enlight_uni> Tenric, where do you need your mouse and what is curently wrong with it?
[11:10] <Enlight_uni> Tenric, ok /etc/init.d/gdm start I guess
[11:10] <Enlight_uni> install gdm if it's not there
[11:10] <Tenric> ok
[11:10] <Tenric> I'll let you know
[11:10] <farkr> is 4gb enough for /home partition if i keep most of my huge files on a separate 80gb ext3 partition?
[11:10] <Enlight_uni> erm
[11:10] <Enlight_uni> not gdm
[11:11] <yoshiznit123> Tenric, do you mean gpm?
[11:11] <Enlight_uni> my bad
[11:11] <Enlight_uni> gpm
[11:11] <yoshiznit123> what enlight said :-)
[11:11] <farkr> yeah quite a big diff between gpm and gdm ;0
[11:11] <Enlight_uni> yoshiznit123, age is taking my memory away :/
[11:11] <yoshiznit123> enlight_uni, lol, that's ok for now it's only one letter mistake
[11:12] <azamoum17> salu
[11:12] <Enlight_uni> yoshiznit123, alzheimer's gonna get me soon T_T
[11:12] <Dormot> now that i installed apache anyone know a good guide on how to use it n stuff
[11:12] <Tenric> nada
[11:12] <azamoum17> koi
[11:12] <Enlight_uni> Dormot, it works out of the box
[11:12] <Tenric> how do I install gpm?
[11:12] <farkr> apt-get install gpm
[11:13] <azamoum17> je compan rien
[11:13] <Enlight_uni> Dormot, but if you need to change configuration : http://httpd.apache.org/docs/
[11:13] <Dormot> ok
[11:13] <yoshiznit123> jpjacobs, any news?
[11:13] <azamoum17> tu parle franc
[11:13] <Enlight_uni> azamoum17, t'as pas l'impression d'tre au mme endroit qu'avant?
[11:13] <pianoman> ok..to make this a *little* easier on me, as I'm the only the one in the house that uses Ubuntu, is there a way I can set it up for "All Users" or something so I don't have to continually type the password to access certain applications?
[11:13] <azamoum17> si
[11:13] <jpjacobs> yoshiznit123, doesn't seem like there are ops overthere...
[11:13] <Bruco16> tenric: "gnome-mouse-properties"
[11:13] <Enlight_uni> azamoum17, ben te pose pas plus de questions
[11:14] <azamoum17> porkoi
[11:14] <Enlight_uni> azamoum17, bon j'ai pas le temps pour ce genre de foutage de gueule
[11:14] <azamoum17> koi comen tu parle stp
[11:14] <yoshiznit123> jpjacobs, ok, i tried changing nicks and that didn't work either. could it be my ip?
[11:14] <Enlight_uni> azamoum17, comme quelqu'un d'exaspr
[11:14] <Enlight_uni> yoshiznit123, it may
[11:15] <azamoum17> pa ditout je mamuse
[11:15] <Tenric> it didn't like apt-get install gpm
[11:15] <Enlight_uni> yoshiznit123, but generally op don't give definative ban on a given ip
[11:15] <Tenric> Bruco, that's not what I needed
[11:15] <Tenric> but thanks
[11:15] <Enlight_uni> Tenric, not a ubuntu user, can't help you with this one
[11:15] <yoshiznit123> enlight_uni, ok i'll try signing out or something
[11:15] <Tenric> hehe
[11:15] <Tenric> that's cool Uni
[11:16] <azamoum17> je c pa por ki tu me prand m je vi te dire je sui une fille donc un pe de resper
[11:16] <Enlight_uni> azamoum17, a change rien pour moi, etsi dj t'as dciod de parler franais, fais le correctement, merci!
[11:16] <azamoum17> yes i am cool
[11:17] <yoshiznit123> \list
[11:17] <Tenric> Anyone here heard of the Esata language?
[11:17] <azamoum17>  d'acord ta du mal a me comprandre c sa
[11:17] <Bruco16> y'a beaucoup de nouveau-nouvelle ici sur Linux?
[11:17] <Tenric> auxlang, not code
[11:17] <Bruco16> moi c'est ma 2e distro
[11:17] <stefg> !fr
[11:17] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:18] <Tenric> guess not...
[11:18] <azamoum17> m t qiu toi bruco16
[11:18] <Enlight_uni> Bruco16, sous ma distro, ona pas mal de nouveaux, et c'est pas le meilleur cru qu'on ait eu
[11:19] <azamoum17> je dlire m tu arrette de changer de nom toute les 5min
[11:19] <Tenric> When I tried to install gpm it said that var/lib/dpkg/lock - open was temporarily unavailable
[11:20] <yoshiznit123> Tenric, make sure you use sudo
[11:20] <yoshiznit123> Tenric, and that something else isn't using apt
[11:20] <Kunalagon> how to mount hybrid dvd - Mac OS X install disk (iso9660, HFS) ?
[11:20] <Tenric> sudo dun' work
[11:20] <jpjacobs> yoshiznit123, could be ... or if you're behind a natting firewall, or proxy, maybe someone else on your segment has been blocked by ip (of the proxy/firewall)
[11:20] <jpjacobs> damn, he left
[11:21] <Tenric> how do I tell if something else is using apt?
[11:21] <yoshiznit123> jpjacobs, nope :-) but that's weird, i think i have a direct connection
[11:21] <jpjacobs> ah no he didn't :p
[11:21] <CheshireViking> Teneric: I hadn't heard of Esata, but I looked it up on google, looks wierd, and the examples are spelt the way my south african cousin sounds
[11:21] <Tenric> yeah
[11:21] <fredl> Hmm mycom has that LCD screen in stock but only the one without DVI connector...
[11:21] <yoshiznit123> tenric, close update-manager for example, and any other apt processes
[11:21] <Tenric> it's a bit Afrikaans in sound, but get farther into it
[11:21] <fredl> is there a noticeable difference between using the DVI or VGA connector?
[11:21] <Tenric> it has some unique features
[11:22] <azamoum17> je sui perdu
[11:22] <Tenric> my favorite conlang
[11:22] <Enlight_uni> fredl, IMHO dvi is better
[11:22] <azamoum17> tu pe parler franc
[11:22] <brainiac> fredl: yes there is
[11:22] <CheshireViking> it looked interesting, but wouldn't have time to learn it at the minute
[11:22] <brainiac> fredl: dvi is way better picture qulity
[11:22] <azamoum17> merci
[11:22] <fredl> Hmm, so is it worth 50 extra euros?
[11:22] <Tenric> hehe
[11:22] <brainiac> yes!
[11:22] <Tenric> I'm still a n00b at it
[11:23] <brainiac> i wouldnt want a tft without dvi
[11:23] <Tenric> problem is, there's no online community to speak of
[11:23] <Enlight_uni> fredl, I would say yes
[11:23] <phr34ck> fredl, if you're a gamer, yes it's worth it.
[11:23] <Tenric> so virtually no one knows about it
[11:23] <fredl> fair enough, thanks guys.
[11:23] <phr34ck> You'll notice a very good overall picture quality
[11:23] <azamoum17> no i don't speak english
[11:23] <Enlight_uni> azamoum17, STFU
[11:23] <brainiac> phr34ck: not only for gaming
[11:23] <Tenric> how do I find out if something is using apt?
[11:23] <Bruco16> azamoum: "/join #ubuntu-fr
[11:24] <jpjacobs> Teneric, ps ax|grep apt
[11:24] <pianoman> is there a way to do a LARGE update to grab all the files that Wine depends on so I can install it?
[11:24] <phr34ck> brainiac, he was asking about if it's worth it. If he play games, then yes it's totally worth it. It doesn't matter if he use it for something else. The only cause for paying that money is having a better picture quality in games.
[11:25] <Enlight_uni> phwhy "in games"?
[11:25] <phr34ck> phr34ck, while playing games.
[11:25] <brainiac> phr34ck: buts its worth it even if you dont play games
[11:25] <phr34ck> erm, Enlight_uni while playing games ...
[11:25] <Tenric> jpjacobs: OK, so what am I looking at?
[11:25] <Enlight_uni> phr34ck, Yup I understood, but it worgs not only while playing games
[11:25] <brainiac> phr34ck: if you want text to look crisp and clean dvi is the only way.. vga will blur text to hell
[11:25] <phr34ck> brainiac, true, but it wouldn't worth the money if you don't play games. That the idea.
[11:26] <phr34ck> brainiac, true. but is it worth the extra money just so you can have a clear view for your desktop"?
[11:26] <Enlight_uni> brexactly, that's why I'n no crying at my dead dvi port
[11:26] <jpjacobs> Tenric, the ps ax gives you a list of running processes (of all users "a") and their pids. now grep filters that output and only returns the lines containing "apt"
[11:26] <brainiac> phr34ck: sure it is
[11:27] <Enlight_uni> phr34ck, well saving your eyes is worth the extra money I guess
[11:27] <brainiac> phr34ck: my eyes are worth more than any money i will ever get
[11:27] <phr34ck> Enlight_uni, your argument is totally flawed. It's not like VGA is the extremly messed it. It's more then comfortable.
[11:27] <phr34ck> brainiac, noone is arguing about that.
[11:27] <brainiac> Enlight_uni: thx for backup
[11:27] <yoshiznit123> how would i go about registering a project as a "3rd party project" in the ubuntu forums? (so that i can for example provide support on the forums)
[11:27] <Tenric> it all looks like system stuff to me
[11:28] <wiking> how it can be :: "no screens found"
[11:28] <Tenric> I don't see anything that looks easily shut-down-able
[11:28] <brainiac> phr34ck: vga on a tft is not comforting
[11:28] <Enlight_uni> brainiac, if you do a lot of reading, you can get easierly headaches with vga
[11:28] <Enlight_uni> depends on the person I guess
[11:28] <Enlight_uni> brainiac, ^^
[11:28] <Tenric> Wow. central Texas and it's freeezing in here
[11:28] <phr34ck> brainiac, I have 3 computers at home. a laptop "TFT screen with VGA card", a desktop with VGA and 17" LCD screen, and another desktop with 19" LCD vga as well.
[11:28] <Enlight_uni> phr34ck, I tend to feel tired faster with VGA output
[11:29] <phr34ck> I dare myself to catch the difference other then while playing games.
[11:29] <jpjacobs> Tenric, everything is easily shutdownable. the only question is do you want to shut it down? (btw if you are on a multiuser system you might want to use ps aux, the u also lists usernames, which launched the programs)
[11:29] <Tenric> jpjacobs: I don't see anything that looks easily shut-down-able
[11:30] <brainiac> phr34ck: so your eyes are already borked?
[11:30] <Enlight_uni> jpjacobs, pstree -a also
[11:30] <brainiac> :P
[11:30] <jpjacobs> kill <pid> shuts down about everything but zombie processes
[11:30] <phr34ck> brainiac, define borked ;p.
[11:30] <phr34ck> first time I see that word.
[11:30] <IntuitiveNipple> As a developer working on dual-screens at high-resolution, crisp high-quality display is MORE IMPORTANT for reading text than viewing 'images' or 'games'
[11:30] <brainiac> phr34ck: maybe you should get glasses :)
[11:30] <Enlight_uni> jpjacobs, yup but it's not a good way to stop daemons using a rc script
[11:30] <jpjacobs> indeed :)
[11:31] <phr34ck> brainiac, but I don't need galsses, eventhough I've been using VGA all my life..
[11:31] <Enlight_uni> phr34ck, VGA flickers more
[11:31] <IntuitiveNipple> OK, from the simple question about 50 euros, there's a war breaking out over monitor standards :O
[11:32] <phr34ck> Enlight_uni, what do you mean by flickers, give me an example.
[11:32] <Tenric> ok
[11:32] <Tenric> I'll be back
[11:32] <yoshiznit123> anybody know much about ubuntu forums?
[11:32] <Enlight_uni> phr34ck, you're just lucky having robust eyes
[11:32] <phr34ck> Enlight_uni, don't be sarcastic, I'm trying to understand your point here. Maybe you're right.
[11:32] <Enlight_uni> phr34ck, well as english is not my mother tongue it'll be hard to explain
[11:32] <IntuitiveNipple> So, lets change the subject... what applications would you recommend from the Ubuntu Edgy Add/Remove applications for someone of a developer/hacker/networking turn of mind?
[11:32] <phr34ck> Enlight_uni, welcome to my land. I suck at english =)
[11:33] <Enlight_uni> phr34ck, if you try to look fixely at one part of the screen, I find it harder
[11:33] <phr34ck> IntuitiveNipple, for a hacker/developer/networking turn of mind, you should already know what to use.
[11:33] <phr34ck> Enlight_uni, ahh, okay
[11:33] <IntuitiveNipple> oh don't start on me!
[11:33] <brainiac> IntuitiveNipple: qhat about geany
[11:33] <peterhoeg> IntuitiveNipple - well, what do you need?
[11:33] <pty> IntuitiveNipple: what do you want to achieve?
[11:33] <IntuitiveNipple> I'm asking for points of view - there's a multitude of different apps for the same thing!
[11:33] <phr34ck> IntuitiveNipple, true.
[11:34] <Tenric> got I t
[11:34] <phr34ck> a hacker is a reader as well !!!
[11:34] <Tenric> *it
[11:34] <peterhoeg> IntuitiveNipple - sure, but what exactly are you trying to do?
[11:34] <IntuitiveNipple> achieve? Well I'm a programmer/hacker/developer moving totally over from Windows so I'm used to having all sorts of tools around 'just in case' for hacking badly behaved apps, networks, etc.
[11:34] <phr34ck> IntuitiveNipple, like monitoring and the like ?
[11:34] <laz0r> IntuitiveNipple: vim or emacs and gcc and you should be set for anything...
[11:34] <brainiac> what are you developing?
[11:34] <peterhoeg> IntuitiveNipple - what tools? To do what exactly?
[11:35] <pty> i'd add python to that list too
[11:35] <spiekey> hi
[11:35] <IntuitiveNipple> I use Eclipse for development, Wireshark for net hacking, etc
[11:35] <spiekey> where does the file bonobo-activation-server-ior come from?
[11:35] <peterhoeg> pty: or ruby (not intending to start a war...)
[11:35] <phr34ck> IntuitiveNipple, sudo apt-get install eclipse.
[11:35] <Enlight_uni> inwhat do you call net hacking?
[11:35] <Enlight_uni> IntuitiveNipple,
[11:35] <peterhoeg> IntuitiveNipple - eclipse runs perfectly on Ubuntu
[11:35] <pty> lol, I wouldn't argue I'm sat working on a ruby project right now
[11:35] <yoshiznit123> spiekey, it helps gnome applications communicate with each other
[11:36] <Tenric> jpjacobs: got it.
[11:36] <IntuitiveNipple> I've got eclipse, thats not a problem. I was looking through the list of apps in Edgy's Add/Remove and wondering what else to add
[11:36] <azamoum17> salut
[11:36] <IntuitiveNipple> there's a lot of KDE stuff in there, which I presumably can't use in Gnome?
[11:36] <spiekey> yoshiznit123: i have just deleted it by accident. how do i get it back?
[11:36] <brainiac> IntuitiveNipple: Try geany
[11:36] <Seveas> IntuitiveNipple, why not?
[11:36] <phr34ck> IntuitiveNipple, ummm. The only thing to help you out is start googling arround about network programs to see what suits you best.
[11:36] <peterhoeg> pty: I know this is silly, but I just cannot get my head around the tabbing/spacing
[11:36] <peterhoeg> pty: in python that is...
[11:36] <yoshiznit123> spiekey, you killed the process or you deleted the file?
[11:36] <Seveas> IntuitiveNipple, you can use kde apps in gnome and vice versa
[11:36] <pty> IntuitiveNipple: you can use it in Gnome but it looks slighty out of place and takes a bit longer to load initially
[11:36] <Tenric> jpjacobs you there?
[11:36] <IntuitiveNipple> Seveas: Aren't Gnome and KDE different at the API level?
[11:36] <jpjacobs> yes
[11:37] <IntuitiveNipple> oooo can I? oooooooooooo!!!
[11:37] <Tenric> I got it.
[11:37] <spiekey> yoshiznit123: i was going to do a "ls bonobo-activation-server-ior" but i did a "rm bonobo-activation-server-ior" :)
[11:37] <jpjacobs> IntuitiveNipple, the add/remove dialog is far from a complete software listing in ubuntu. use synaptic for that
[11:37] <yoshiznit123> intuitivenipple, while you're at it i'll suggest amaroK for music, the only KDE app i use :-)
[11:37] <jpjacobs> nice
[11:37] <pty> peterhoeg: yeah; when I first used it took me a while to get used to it
[11:37] <Tenric> now what?
[11:38] <peterhoeg> yoshiznit123: i second the use of amarok (playing right now!)
[11:38] <jpjacobs> now what? what's your problem for a starter?
[11:38] <pty> peterhoeg: I'm enjoying working with ruby though, everything just seems to make sense
[11:38] <Enlight_uni> azamoum17, bon on va la refaire, tu utilises xchat?
[11:38] <Tenric> configuring my mouse
[11:38] <IntuitiveNipple> jpjacobs: Yes, I gathered that but I'm just exploring it. I have been using synaptic as the default for a while but its nice to explore :)
[11:38] <peterhoeg> pty: true
[11:38] <IntuitiveNipple> I'm just interested and what other people find to be useful tools
[11:38] <Enlight_uni> IntuitiveNipple, emacs FTW
[11:38] <IntuitiveNipple> I don't have a DVD authoring tool yet - any recommendations?
[11:38] <Tenric> it's a Microsoft intellimouse and the scroller and two extra buttons aren't working
[11:38] <Tenric> other than that it's fine
[11:39] <yoshiznit123> spiekey, do dpkg -S bonobo-activation-server-ior
[11:39] <peterhoeg> IntuitiveNipple - mc and vim and you are pretty much set
[11:39] <IntuitiveNipple> If one more person mentions emacs I'll switch back to Windows!
[11:39] <yoshiznit123> i don't have that file in my install, but that should give you a package
[11:39] <Enlight_uni> Tenric, you've got to look for evdev I guess
[11:39] <phr34ck> IntuitiveNipple, here is a hint. Don't base your application of choice on other people. It might not just suit you.
[11:39] <Tenric> emacs!
[11:39] <jpjacobs> IntuitiveNipple, if you like network stuff: ettercap, wellenreiter, kismet,...
[11:39] <yoshiznit123> spiekey, and then apt-get --reinstall install *that package*
[11:39] <phr34ck> what's emacs ?
[11:39] <Enlight_uni> Tenric, \o/
[11:39] <laz0r> IntuitiveNipple: emacs kicks ass dude
[11:39] <pty> IntuitiveNipple: vim is hte way forwards :)
[11:39] <laz0r> emacs!
[11:39] <IntuitiveNipple> Um, yeah, I *know* that phr34ck - I'm interested in hearing alternative opinions though
[11:39] <spiekey> yoshiznit123: dpkg: *bonobo-activation-server-ior* not found.
[11:39] <Enlight_uni> phr34ck, text editor that can do barrely anything, and probably coffe too
[11:40] <Tenric> I don't know anything about emacs.  Until a few weeks ago I was hardcore Windows
[11:40] <Enlight_uni> phr34ck, written by Stallman himself
[11:40] <phr34ck> Enlight_uni, Stallman is ?
[11:40] <Enlight_uni> phr34ck, kidding right?
[11:40] <yoshiznit123> spiekey, are you sure that was the right name? i only have bonobo-activation-sysconf
[11:40] <phr34ck> no, I'm not. Who's he?
[11:40] <IntuitiveNipple> I've run Windows and Linux for years, but I'm currently switching all the workstations notebooks and tablet PCs over to Ubuntu Edgy
[11:40] <Tenric> jpjacobs: what is evdev?
[11:40] <Enlight_uni> phr34ck, the gnu project's foudator
[11:40] <phr34ck> ahhh, okay.
[11:40] <Enlight_uni> s/fou/foun/
[11:40] <phr34ck> intereting to know ;p
[11:40] <IntuitiveNipple> Its painful still - a lot of hardware not supported
[11:41] <Enlight_uni> phthe one who wrote gcc at first
[11:41] <phr34ck> but why I don't have emacs? I write emacs and it says "Command not found"
[11:41] <jpjacobs> Tenric, i guess that's something you better don't kill. if searching for what stuff is, man and apt-cache search/show is your friend
[11:41] <echosystm> because you havent installed it
[11:41] <Enlight_uni> IntuitiveNipple, strace is a great tool also for debugging purpose
[11:41] <echosystm> sudo apt-get install emacs
[11:41] <IntuitiveNipple> Enlight_uni: thanks - I'll google that now to find about it
[11:41] <azamoum17> tu tapelle comen
[11:42] <phr34ck> echosystm, yeah I know that. but I'm wondering why it doesn't come with the system since it's very valuable "it seems"
[11:42] <Enlight_uni> azamoum17, tu demandes  qui?
[11:42] <spiekey> yoshiznit123: yes, i still have it in my history: "rm bonobo-activation-server-ior"
[11:42] <echosystm> because everyone uses something else
[11:42] <laz0r> IntuitiveNipple: and gdb  (+ kgdb if you want)
[11:42] <IntuitiveNipple> Enlight_uni: YES, thats the kind of thing I like to have about me!
[11:42] <echosystm> thats like saying dreamweaver should come with windows because its valuable
[11:42] <yoshiznit123> spiekey, which directory was this in? (and how come you were using sudo? :-P)
[11:42] <echosystm> ive never used emacs because i think its crap
[11:42] <echosystm> :)
[11:42] <Enlight_uni> IntuitiveNipple, ^^
[11:42] <laz0r> erm, i meant kdbg, IntuitiveNipple
[11:43] <IntuitiveNipple> laz0r: thanks, yes, I think I spotted that earlier. Now, what IDE for Linux do the professionals prefer for C/C++ - is the CDT in Eclipse plus some widgets the way to go?
[11:43] <yoshiznit123> wait, eclipse has support for C?
[11:43] <Enlight_uni> IntuitiveNipple, that's the bigger troll in the community, I prefer emacs
[11:43] <laz0r> IntuitiveNipple: i like anjuta, but kdevelop looks nice too
[11:43] <brainiac> IntuitiveNipple: i like geany
[11:43] <Enlight_uni> IntuitiveNipple, lots of people only swear by the name of vim also
[11:44] <yoshiznit123> brainiac, seconded
[11:44] <IntuitiveNipple> I've been using Eclipse since before version 1.0 so I'm home there, don't want to reinvent the wheel or split my efforts
[11:44] <spiekey> yoshiznit123: i was cleaning our backup directory /backup. I whould have said its a dead file there, but it must have had a reason why it was in /backup/bonobo-activation-server-ior
[11:44] <Enlight_uni> so time to eat, brb
[11:44] <laz0r> IntuitiveNipple: and of course emacs rules all of them... but it can be a little... uncomfortable for a beginner
[11:44] <spiekey> yoshiznit123: the real backups are in sub-folders. So its not a backup file.
[11:44] <IntuitiveNipple> I generally find the people that swear by vim don't think conceptually or visually
[11:44] <spiekey> weird...
[11:44] <Dormot> burepe u there?
[11:44] <phr34ck> Anjuta sucks.
[11:45] <Tenric> jpjacobs: how do I configure my mouse?
[11:45] <phr34ck> I never got it working correctly, specially when I choose "New project"
[11:45] <yoshiznit123> spiekey, yea i don't know about bonobo-activation-server-ior, thought you might have been looking for bonobo-activation-server
[11:45] <laz0r> phr34k: you are right somehow, but i got used to it
[11:45] <jpjacobs> Tenric, prefs>mouse
[11:45] <yoshiznit123> laz0r, have you tried version two in the edgy repos of anjuta?
[11:45] <Tenric> not that one.
[11:45] <IntuitiveNipple> I've always believed software should fit in with the way *I* work and think not the other way around
[11:45] <jpjacobs> Tenric, or is it something with multiple buttons, and some not working etc
[11:46] <Tenric> correct
[11:46] <jpjacobs> Tenric, then you'll probably have to play with xorg.conf
[11:46] <IntuitiveNipple> And as I started out writing pure machine code in hex, I've had a good deal of experience of the alternatives :)
[11:46] <jpjacobs> google for it
[11:46] <laz0r> yoshiznit123: i just switched to ubuntu, did use gentoo before
[11:46] <IntuitiveNipple> Ubuntu is impressive in some ways, isn't it?
[11:46] <phr34ck> now I got no C++/Java IDE ... I'm using gedit which is very hard since I have to work with multiple files in each project.
[11:47] <IntuitiveNipple> Frustrating in others too :)
[11:47] <Enlight_uni> IntuitiveNipple, writing in hexadecimal???? Why the hell would one do that?
[11:47] <IntuitiveNipple> Enlight - this was in the days when there were no assemblers
[11:47] <Pistahh> hello, is there any ubuntu package somewhere for thunderbird 2.0* ?
[11:47] <pty> phr34ck: try anjuta
[11:47] <IntuitiveNipple> early 80's
[11:47] <Enlight_uni> IntuitiveNipple, okay!
[11:47] <phr34ck> pty,  I have it, but I don't know how the hell it works.
[11:47] <IntuitiveNipple> We knew the entire Z80 instruction set off-by-heart, urghh!
[11:47] <Enlight_uni> Pistahh, thunderbird 2.0 is out???
[11:47] <phr34ck> I never got it work, specially when it comes to projects.
[11:48] <phr34ck> It just gives loads of errors.
[11:48] <yoshiznit123> IntuitiveNipple, and now we have stuff like Mono, lol
[11:48] <Pistahh> Enlight_uni: dunno but some betas are out for sure. :)
[11:48] <pty> phr34ck: ah, fair enough.  I don't really know my way round it either
[11:48] <IntuitiveNipple> Mono - yeah, I keep hearing about that :)
[11:48] <yoshiznit123> btw, MonoDevelop is a cool tool
[11:48] <Enlight_uni> Pistahh, look up for the nigthly releases then
[11:48] <IntuitiveNipple> I hacked some stuff in C# once - its very like Java only took me about 2 hours to get up to speed in it
[11:48] <phr34ck> pty, do you know any other program? I just need something to list the files I'm working on.
[11:49] <IntuitiveNipple> MonoDevelop? I saw that in the "Programming" list - I debated with myself and then thought I'll hold off on that one until I actually need it
[11:49] <phr34ck> IntuitiveNipple, C# is a rip off Java. Microsoft paied Sun 4 billion $ because of it.
[11:49] <laz0r> phr34k: have you tried kate?
[11:49] <echosystm> does anyone here know of any pcmcia ata flash cards?
[11:49] <echosystm> i want to see what happens if i load linux onto solid state storage
[11:49] <echosystm> :P
[11:49] <yoshiznit123> phr34ck, although i think the language is a lot better, and  the class library is cleaner
[11:49] <phr34ck> laz0r, nop. First time I hear about it. Will try it.
[11:50] <phr34ck> yoshiznit123, Java of course.
[11:50] <IntuitiveNipple> phr34ck: They paid $4bn to beat off the anti-trust actions re MS trying to kill Java by making software rely on custom MS extensions
[11:50] <yoshiznit123> phr34ck, C#, of course
[11:50] <spiekey> yoshiznit123: thanks. i will just ignore it and wait for upcomming errors ;)
[11:50] <XiXaQ> are the filenames ".myfile" and "myfile" equal? That is, is the dot a part of the filename?
[11:50] <mtholdenss> hey is there a easy way to convert from win xp outlook express to thunderbird on ubuntu, my dad wants to move from win xp  to ubuntu
[11:50] <pty> XiXaQ: yes, it is
[11:51] <laz0r> phr34ck its the kde equivalent to gedit, but its much more powerful when used for programming tasks
[11:51] <svish> anyone know of a good php channel here on irc?
[11:51] <IntuitiveNipple> mtholdenss: I'm not sure, its something I'm investigating
[11:51] <XiXaQ> pty, is?
[11:51] <yoshiznit123> mtholdenss, do you mean import mail and address book?
[11:51] <phr34ck> yoshiznit123, I wouldn't know about that since I never used C# and I never will. Just by knowing it's a rip of Java is enough for me for not using it.
[11:51] <svish> (or is there anyone here who knows it?)
[11:51] <jpjacobs> XiXaQ, no it isn't files starting with . are hidden
[11:51] <mtholdenss> yoshiznit, yes i do
[11:51] <XiXaQ> jpjacobs, I know, but is the dot a part of the filename?
[11:51] <phr34ck> laz0r, thanks. I'm sure that I will try it.
[11:51] <pty> XiXaQ: sorry, i meant the . is part of the file name
[11:51] <jpjacobs> XiXaQ, yes
[11:51] <karman> hola!!!!!
[11:51] <yoshiznit123> phr34ck, you really should, just because MS made it doesn't make it automatically bad - and Java was ripped off C++
[11:51] <mtholdenss> my father only wants to use win xp for apps that he cant use on linux.. he wants to transfer contacts and e-mail to ubunntu without losing anything
[11:51] <peterhoeg> phr34ck: it is always about using the right tool for the job. C# has plenty of good uses
[11:52] <XiXaQ> ok, so you can actually have a hidden and a visible file with the same name?
[11:52] <phr34ck> yoshiznit123, and now you have no idea what you're talking about. Java is WRITTEN in C++.
[11:52] <yoshiznit123> mtholdenss, i remember migration-assistant was working on something for that, don't remember if it ever got completed
[11:52] <jpjacobs> XiXaQ, yes
[11:52] <jpjacobs> that is .file and file
[11:52] <XiXaQ> right.
[11:52] <phr34ck> peterhoeg, C# is Microsoft's responce to Java. Which means, Java totally replaces C# in no matter what task. That's first. Second, Java is portable.
[11:52] <yoshiznit123> phr34ck, yea but the syntax and similar is in that same family :-)
[11:52] <IntuitiveNipple> Java wasn't ripped off! The idea was to make the language as familiar as possible, but Java is so completely different with its standard class libraries and byte-code etc. Java is more of a pseudo PC architecture
[11:52] <jpjacobs> so technically it is not the same name ;)
[11:52] <phr34ck> let me know if C# works on every single platform out there.
[11:53] <mtholdenss> and do you reccomend i put drapper drake or edgy eft?
[11:53] <XiXaQ> yoshiznit123, then c++ is a ripoff too.
[11:53] <yoshiznit123> well ok, not a ripoff, but "based on" :-P
[11:53] <IntuitiveNipple> I went from machine-code, to assembler, to C, to C++, then Java. A few others long the way but they're all roughly the same these days
[11:54] <phr34ck> yoshiznit123, you have to understand that Java is "Written" in C++.
[11:54] <IntuitiveNipple> yoshiznit123: I'll let you off :)
[11:54] <phr34ck> yoshiznit123, do you even know that Java Native Code is ?
[11:54] <phr34ck> IntuitiveNipple, I worship Assembly language.
[11:54] <IntuitiveNipple> And C++ is written in machine code!
[11:54] <IntuitiveNipple> phr34ck: no accounting for taste
[11:55] <peterhoeg> IntuitiveNipple - no is isn't. Most C++ compilers are written in C or C++
[11:55] <IntuitiveNipple> I prefer something I can use to deliver complex projects with this century, not next :p
[11:55] <phr34ck> IntuitiveNipple, you used assembly, you surely know the power of Assembly language.
[11:55] <Tenric> IntuitiveNipple: you should try Linoleum
[11:55] <yoshiznit123> phr34ck, of course. i'm just saying the language itself is similar. also, i find java kinda weird, 3 different ways to get lengths of strings and arrays?
[11:55] <mtholdenss> 6.06 or 6.10?
[11:55] <phr34ck> yoshiznit123, and that is weird for you?
[11:55] <phr34ck> what so weird about it ?
[11:55] <IntuitiveNipple> which are just abstractions of the assembler language libraries in the compilers :)
[11:55] <yoshiznit123> phr34ck, yea there should only be one obvious way to do it :-)
[11:56] <Tenric> IntuitiveNipple: www.anywherebb.com/
[11:56] <yoshiznit123> but that's probably my OCD talking :-p
[11:56] <phr34ck> yoshiznit123, I pitty you if you're a programmer./
[11:56] <IntuitiveNipple> Even Object-Oriented Assembler is hard to maintain, though we did try it once or twice
[11:57] <jpjacobs> mtholdenss, if you don't really need longtime support nor really really rockstable and a low update volume, i'd choose edgy
[11:57] <laz0r> IntuitiveNipple: omg, oo-asm? did you really pull that 'stunt'?
[11:57] <Tenric> Nipple: Lino is the best general-purpose out there, bar none.
[11:57] <yoshiznit123> phr34ck, have you ever tried python or boo?
[11:57] <IntuitiveNipple> Tenric: I'm reading up on it now, sounds interesting
[11:57] <steelb> whats a good, lightweight bittorrent such as Torrent is for windows?
[11:57] <phr34ck> yoshiznit123, I'm familiar with python, but never really tried it.
[11:58] <phr34ck> I'm an Assembly, C++, Java, Php, JavaScript kind of person ;p
[11:58] <yoshiznit123> ah, very good
[11:58] <mtholdenss> jpjacobs, only want it for docs, e-mails, web, spreadsheets, presentations, music, video, and maybe eyecandy
[11:58] <yoshiznit123> see i don't know anything about assembly
[11:58] <IntuitiveNipple> Objet-Orientation is in assembler mainly just a way of organising your code, and it does have its place, for smaller projects and libraries
[11:58] <Tenric> Phr34k: Lino is based on assembly; you should check it out
[11:58] <jpjacobs> mtholdenss, then go for edgy
[11:58] <azamoum17> yes  je compan pa l'englais
[11:58] <phr34ck> yoshiznit123, in Assembly you can make a pointer to a specific bit ... imagine that.
[11:59] <phr34ck> Tenric, will do.
[11:59] <azamoum17> no
[11:59] <phr34ck> azamoum17, qu'est ce que vous demandez ?
[11:59] <mtholdenss> jpjacobs, do you know if the eyecandy is as stable as it was on 6.06, cause thats sorta what attracted my dad to linux
[11:59] <jpjacobs> steelb, a good cli client is rtorrent (be sure to read the manpage)
[11:59] <IntuitiveNipple> Tenric: ooooooooo I'm liking Lino more and more: "most instructions in Lino can be executed in one machine cycle"
[11:59] <azamoum17> pour koi vous ete ki
[11:59] <Tenric> yep!
[11:59] <IntuitiveNipple> Thats what I miss - having to count the clock cycles on each instruction :)
[11:59] <jpjacobs> mtholdenss, i guess... but xgl/beryl remains not that stable
[12:00] <mtholdenss> mmm ok thanks! :)
[12:00] <IntuitiveNipple> Rodney Zak's Z80 bible had its appendices SO thumbed when we were adding up the ticks
[12:00] <Tenric> Nipple: if you happen to actually sign up for the anywherebb forums, shoot me a PM at colonel_kournne
[12:00] <yoshiznit123> intuitivenipple, what's lino's homepage? cant find on google
[12:00] <azamoum17> c pa grayscale ave
[12:00] <Tenric> www..anywherebb.com
[12:00] <IntuitiveNipple> yosh - I'm on Wikipedia atm
[12:00] <IntuitiveNipple> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linoleum_(programming_language)
[12:00] <phr34ck> IntuitiveNipple, what you just said doesn't make sense at all.
[12:00] <IntuitiveNipple> phr34ck: well as you said, English isn't your first language :p
[12:00] <phr34ck> How can you do such thing is your computer processes one instruction per cycle ?
[12:01] <waxblood> Where are placed the installation scripts?
[12:01] <phr34ck> IntuitiveNipple, and your point is ?
[12:01] <azamoum17>  je parle pa anglais je pe avoir qlq ki parle francais mrd
[12:01] <IntuitiveNipple> It made sense in English :)
[12:01] <echosystm> what transfer speed can a 7200rpm hard drive sustain?
[12:01] <echosystm> on average
[12:01] <phr34ck> IntuitiveNipple, I doubt that you know anything about computer architecture. Do you?
[12:01] <azamoum17> en francais mrd
[12:01] <IntuitiveNipple> echosystm: depends on the IDE interface speed and other things
[12:01] <echosystm> ata133
[12:01] <IntuitiveNipple> phr34ck: you'd be surprised
[12:01] <jpjacobs> echosystm, depends on number of heads and disks i guess
[12:02] <phr34ck> echosystm, it depedsn. IDE or SATA or SATAII ... ?
[12:02] <IntuitiveNipple> phr34ck: I've designed hardware if that counts
[12:02] <echosystm> typical ata133 7200rpm 8mb cache drive
[12:02] <phr34ck> IntuitiveNipple, oh yeah. Since you just invented a machine that can execute 2 instructions in one machine cycle.
[12:02] <echosystm> theres not sustained data transfer diff between ide and sata i know that
[12:02] <Tenric> Ooh, Intuitive, how *good* are you at designing hardware?
[12:02] <IntuitiveNipple> what ARE you going on about?
[12:02] <echosystm> the only difference is access time
[12:02] <echosystm> even that isnt much different
[12:03] <azamoum17> atend je pense ke tu compran pa le francais donc je vi te l'ecrire en englais
[12:03] <echosystm> sata just changed the interface, the hard drive are still the same speed more or less
[12:03] <phr34ck> IntuitiveNipple, what you wrote .
[12:03] <IntuitiveNipple> what did i write?
[12:03] <azamoum17> i don't speak english
[12:03] <phr34ck> scroll up, and you'll know.
[12:03] <IntuitiveNipple> I just did, i have no idea what you're on about
[12:03] <azamoum17> yes i kneuw
[12:03] <phr34ck> IntuitiveNipple, yeah well too bad.
[12:03] <Valmarko> phr34ck, What do you suggest ? AMD or Intel ?
[12:04] <phr34ck>  Valmarko currently INTEL .. but I'm waiting AMD to launch their 65nm processors.
[12:04] <Tenric> ooooh
[12:04] <azamoum17> alors tu c parler francais
[12:04] <Tenric> sounds fancy
[12:04] <Valmarko> What is the latest intel processor?
[12:04] <azamoum17> oui
[12:05] <phr34ck> Valmarko, why do you ask?
[12:05] <phr34ck> core2duo
[12:05] <Valmarko> I'm planning to buy a new pc.
[12:05] <Tenric> Nipple, I just PMmed you
[12:05] <phr34ck> Valmarko, what do you want exactly ?
[12:05] <azamoum17> pourkoi tu parle anglais
[12:05] <Tenric> Alienware!!
[12:05] <phr34ck> Valmarko, and you're asking here?
[12:05] <riaal> I have a problem, im updating to drapper and it stuck on "Setting libvte-common (0.11.15-0ubuntu3) or "Setting linux-image-2.6.12-10-386) how do I cancel it? using the gnome uppdate crap
[12:05] <Valmarko> I now that you understand a lot about processors
[12:06] <azamoum17> i don't understand
[12:06] <IntuitiveNipple> Tenric: I saw nothing - but I think freenode have PVT disabled for most people
[12:06] <phr34ck> Tenric, Alienware is just a rip off.
[12:06] <jpjacobs> azamoum17, bon, tout le monde sait que tu ne parle pas l'anglais. mais pourquoi tu joins un channal anglophone? Il y a aussi le channal ubuntu franais: #ubuntu-fr. pour le joindre justement tappez '/join #ubuntu-fr' et puis tappez enter.
[12:06] <phr34ck> The only thing I like about Alienware is their case ;p
[12:06] <phr34ck> It's just play awesomness.
[12:06] <Okyanus> Enter text here...
[12:06] <azamoum17> je l pa
[12:06] <Valmarko> You're misunderstanding me. I was just reading your conversation with another person
[12:06] <Okyanus> selam
[12:06] <phr34ck> Valmarko, I detect sarcasm. Where are you going with this ?
[12:07] <Okyanus> selam millet aran0131zda turk varm0131_?????
[12:07] <azamoum17> et en + si tout le mobde le c porkoi il continue
[12:07] <phr34ck> Valmarko, yeah about that language that can execute 2 instructions per machine cycle.
[12:07] <Okyanus> TRK varm0131 aran0131zda_?**
[12:07] <IntuitiveNipple> You REALLY do need glasses phreak, if you misread something THAT bad!
[12:07] <Valmarko> And you said that you colaborate on making chips,
[12:07] <IntuitiveNipple> You'd better get one of those DVU monitors you know
[12:07] <azamoum17> cool
[12:07] <IntuitiveNipple> ^DVI^
[12:07] <phr34ck> IntuitiveNipple, what did I miss ?
[12:08] <Tenric> Nipple: I got your PM. Did you get mine?
[12:08] <azamoum17> no
[12:08] <Valmarko> That's it :) I didnt mean to be sarcastic, i'm serious
[12:08] <IntuitiveNipple> Tenric: no, i didn't - is your nickname registered with NickServ?
[12:08] <azamoum17> i m sireu
[12:08] <phr34ck> Valmarko, well .. what about saying what you want to say without all that going arround the subject ?
[12:08] <Okyanus> hi
[12:08] <azamoum17> yes
[12:08] <sherz_> Is there no auto forward in evolution ??
[12:09] <azamoum17> i m sorui
[12:09] <Okyanus> turk famela if not_????
[12:09] <azamoum17> alors
[12:09] <Lynoure> sherz_: I'd be surprised if you could not do it someway, with filtering for example.
[12:09] <Okyanus> hallo
[12:09] <Valmarko> phr34ck, That's why I asked you information about processors. I'm sorry. I didnt mean
[12:10] <azamoum17>  hallo
[12:10] <phr34ck> Valmarko, ok.
[12:10] <Okyanus> asl_?
[12:10] <sherz_> @Lynoure No I can find it in the filter options
[12:10] <azamoum17> no i don't understand
[12:10] <jpjacobs> !tr|Okyanus
[12:10] <ubotu> Okyanus: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[12:10] <Okyanus> what
[12:11] <Lynoure> sherz_: But I have not used Evolution for couple of year. If you have tried googling for it already, I can try to check anyway
[12:11] <azamoum17> i under17
[12:11] <sherz_> Lynoure No its not a big deal
[12:11] <Okyanus> byee canal
[12:11] <azamoum17> no
[12:12] <azamoum17> what
[12:12] <Okyanus> cavvv
[12:12] <phr34ck> is FireFox 2.0 available in the repos. ?
[12:12] <azamoum17>  no
[12:12] <Okyanus> yes
[12:12] <Okyanus> yes
[12:13] <azamoum17> I AM leave in marseille
[12:13] <azamoum17> alo
[12:14] <laz0r> phr34k: i debootstrapped feisty on my system and i got firefox 2.0 installed 'by default', if that information is of any use for you
[12:14] <azamoum17> what did you leaf
[12:14] <azamoum17> no
[12:14] <riaal> this is insain, can someone walk me true how to graphicly update from breezy to drapper? I have done it but forgot how. just remeber it was really easy
[12:15] <azamoum17> c pa grave
[12:15] <mtholdenss> is there asus graphic drivers for ubuntu?
[12:15] <Rage_> mtholdenss: fglrx
[12:15] <azamoum17> i don't kneuw
[12:16] <mtholdenss> rage, thanks
[12:16] <mikkafi> 
[12:16] <Rage_> mtholdenss: They are in restricted.
[12:16] <azamoum17> no dzl je compran pa
[12:16] <mtholdenss> which means?
[12:16] <azamoum17> yes
[12:16] <mtholdenss> sorry im sorta new to all this
[12:17] <sherz_> I installed some KDE programs on ubuntu but there are ugly looks like kde 1.0 :)
[12:17] <Rage_> mtholdenss: If you cant apt-get/synaptic them you need to modify your sources.
[12:17] <azamoum17> yes i'am a women
[12:17] <mtholdenss> oh k kool, thanks
[12:17] <azamoum17> sorry i am not a mean
[12:17] <Rage_> :)
[12:18] <azamoum17> you can please wriette a fransh
[12:18] <jpjacobs> riaal, wasn't it update-manager -d?
[12:18] <riaal> Do I need to enter some APT-line to update to drapper?
[12:18] <azamoum17> farch
[12:18] <stefg> !upgrade | riaal
[12:18] <ubotu> riaal: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:18] <jpjacobs> sherz_, if i'm not mistaken there is a kde config thing that get's installed with kdelibs.
[12:19] <Enlight_uni> azamoum17, pourquoi tu persistes  rester sur ce salon au lieu d'aller sur celui spcialement prvu pour les frnacophones?
[12:19] <azamoum17> i don't kneuw
[12:19] <azamoum17> parseke je c pa comen faire
[12:19] <Enlight_uni> azamoum17, tu utilises xchat?
[12:19] <azamoum17> oui
[12:20] <Enlight_uni> azamoum17, ben comme on t'as dit avant, tu tapes textto : /join #ubuntu-fr
[12:20] <azamoum17> je voi pa au c
[12:20] <Enlight_uni> azamoum17, tu l'crit l o tu cris pour me parler
[12:21] <riaal> How do I check what version I have?
[12:21] <azamoum17> il falai me le dire
[12:21] <Enlight_uni> azamoum17, sinon menu serveur -> joindre un canal
[12:21] <Enlight_uni> azamoum17, on te l'a dit 15 fois avant
[12:21] <jpjacobs> riaal, look in /etc/apt/sources.list wheter there are dapper's breezy's or edgy's :p
[12:21] <azamoum17> ubuntu-fr
[12:21] <azamoum17> c sa
[12:22] <M0ses> hello people
[12:22] <steelb> what would i do to make it open up the terminal when i press my windows key
[12:22] <Enlight_uni> /join #ubuntu-fr
[12:22] <Enlight_uni> tu copies a texto
[12:22] <riaal> jpjacobs: I want to do "Confirm that you have version "0.42.2ubuntu12~breezy1" "
[12:22] <azamoum17> no je sui perdu
[12:22] <M0ses> I'm having problems installing ubuntu 6.10
[12:22] <Enlight_uni> azamoum17, tu te fous de ma gueule?
[12:22] <yoshiznit123> steelb, under System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts, add <Super> to "Open a Terminal Window", i think
[12:23] <M0ses> it wont load the kernel, the screen goes black
[12:23] <Ga`Audition> what?
[12:23] <yoshiznit123> steelb, or just press the windows key
[12:23] <Ga`Audition> what ????????????????
[12:23] <azamoum17> c bon c f
[12:23] <jpjacobs> riaal, hm? you should be able to update no matter what version you have...
[12:23] <M0ses> i made CD from the current ISO
[12:23] <Ga`Audition> are u a dog ?
[12:23] <steelb> thanks
[12:23] <Enlight_uni> azamoum17, j'ai des doutes
[12:23] <M0ses> and burned it
[12:23] <riaal> jpjacobs, works, thanks for the help
[12:23] <M0ses> anyone?
[12:23] <Neno> question (ubuntu 6. install): to which location should grub be installed to - the default location is hd0 (MBR) - what if I have SATA disk - is the location then sd0?
[12:24] <DarthLappy> Neno: For grub, it should still be hd0, AFAIK.
[12:24] <Enlight_uni> nather are nor hd0 neither sd0
[12:24] <azamoum17> alo
[12:24] <Neno> so it doesn't matter if you have ata or sata HD?
[12:25] <Flannel> Neno: nope, grub sees a bunch of numbered harddrives, starting at 0 and going up.
[12:25] <azamoum17> koi encors en anglais
[12:25] <yoshiznit123> lol
[12:25] <Neno> but is it hd or sd?  can anyone tell me why my installer always stops at exactly 94% - saying ther's an error installing grub?
[12:25] <azamoum17> of
[12:25] <Ga`Audition> FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
[12:25] <azamoum17> tu parle francais
[12:25] <DarthLappy> !ohmy | Ga`Audition
[12:25] <ubotu> Ga`Audition: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:25] <Flannel> oh, wait.  you're installing grub, you need to tell linux where to install grub, with a location linux understands.
[12:26] <Ga`Audition> i want SEXXXXXX
[12:26] <M0ses> why wont the CD load the kernel, it happens the same when I try the check CD option from the menu
[12:26] <azamoum17> au revoir
[12:26] <CheshireViking> !ops
[12:26] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[12:26] <Flannel> M0ses: what happens?
[12:26] <Seveas> thanks CheshireViking
[12:27] <M0ses> the screen goes black
[12:27] <CheshireViking> your welcome
[12:27] <M0ses> i see the curser blincking to the top left of the screen and it goes black
[12:27] <Flannel> M0ses: you have a bad burn.  verify your md5, and burn at 4x.
[12:27] <zak> anyone know of any info/apt repositories/binaries for gstreamer 0.10 for breezy? [i'm unable to upgrade ubuntu in a reasonable timeframe, and apps like [modern]  banshee and songbird require 0.10] 
[12:27] <Neno> my partitions names are sda1 sda2 and so on, but i should install grub to hd0 - is this correct?
[12:28] <DarthLappy> Neno: Yes.
[12:28] <Neno> but when i do that, installer stops ad 94% - any hints?
[12:28] <DarthLappy> Neno: Does it say anything specific?
[12:28] <M0ses> ok, I'll try that, I verified the md5 from the ISO file on the HD before burning it was the same, but couldnt get it to check the CD
[12:28] <Neno> just fatal error, don't know the exact message...
[12:29] <cyberix> What do you call the ".1" in Dapper 6.06.1 release?
[12:29] <cyberix> Service Pack 1?
[12:29] <DarthLappy> Neno: That makes it a bit hard to diagnose then :) By which method are you installing?
[12:29] <mg> Help. I cannot remotely vnc to my ubuntu box, I can telnet to port 5900 but connection closes immediately. Any ideas?
[12:30] <M0ses> Flannel: Thanks
[12:30] <mansour> I can't find nvidia-xconfig on my system
[12:30] <Neno> i have the desktop version - 64bit architecture, i use graphic instaler, set up partitions manually (one is ext3 the other linux-swap), and it fails every time...
[12:30] <zak> zak: i wonder if xchat will hilight this
[12:30] <azamoum17> jhjnjnn
[12:31] <azamoum17> yes koi
[12:31] <azamoum17> c f
[12:31] <zak> zak: nope :(
[12:31] <azamoum17> c bien
[12:32] <jedi__> greetings! I installed beryl on edgy - nvid 5200 - but when I load emerald themes i havent got close, minimize ... 3 boxes . Any ideas?
[12:32] <jpjacobs> Enlight_uni, finally he has managed to join ubuntu-fr :)
[12:32] <Enlight_uni> jpjacobs, yup ^^
[12:32] <yoshiznit123> jpjacobs, i still haven't :-(
[12:32] <yoshiznit123> :-)
[12:33] <concept10> what happens when gnome switches back to the root theme?  (the old grey one, for example in synaptic or when you run any app as root)
[12:33] <concept10> how do you fix this
[12:33] <tux> how to change resolution to 1024*...?
[12:33] <M0ses> ok, now, to burn the ISO, I'm using CDBUrner Pro 3, what are the setting I need, should I use the Joliet/ISO1/ISO2??
[12:33] <yoshiznit123> concept10, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1189203
[12:33] <mansour> greetings all...is this the place to ask noobie questions?
[12:33] <yoshiznit123> specifically section 4
[12:34] <DarthLappy> mansour: It's the place to ask questions, sure.
[12:34] <tux> hi can any1 help me with screen resolution change?
[12:34] <mansour> great...II just did a dist-upgrade on Feisty from restricted repo
[12:34] <mansour> then did install nvidia-glx
[12:35] <mansour> I can't find nvidia-xconfig
[12:35] <Rage_> concept10: that is cos they are running as the root user and using that users prefs. if you are going to be sill enought to runn that kind of thing as root.
[12:36] <tux> how to change resolution to 1024*...? vga = ?
[12:36] <jpjacobs> yoshiznit123, seems there are no ops there :p
[12:37] <yoshiznit123> k thats cool
[12:37] <mansour> I am new to IRC, how do I ask questions here?
[12:37] <Lynoure> mansour: just like that
[12:37] <M0ses> lol
[12:37] <Lynoure> mansour: congrats, got your first answer, too :)
[12:37] <visik7> why vmware-player  is packetized while vmware-server (that it's also free) isn't ?
[12:37] <steelb> how do i view all my connected drives?
[12:38] <Dormot> how do i access the root account, i cant access it through the login menu
[12:38] <mansour> Dormot: sudo bash
[12:38] <jpjacobs> Dormot, basically you don't, use sudo instead
[12:38] <jpjacobs> !sudo
[12:38] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:39] <mansour> how do I instal nvidia-xconfig
[12:39] <_BS_> what is "the fifth paradigm"?
[12:39] <Dormot> ok guys, how do i give myself permission to edit the var/www folder
[12:40] <Dormot> to write and erase stuff
[12:40] <concept10> Rage_, you dont know what i mean or what youre talking about
[12:40] <Rage_> concept10: Fair enough.
[12:40] <Dormot> thats the only part i need for my own server
[12:40] <Dormot> to edit that folder
[12:40] <phr34ck> Dormot, use sudo
[12:41] <mansour> sudo chmod 777 /var/www
[12:41] <Dormot> ok, cool
[12:41] <mansour> but that is not a good idea in general
[12:41] <jpjacobs> Dormot, sudo <command>, like in sudo mv file1 dir/ or sudo rm file or sudo mkdir ...
[12:41] <mansour> better create a user id for your web server
[12:41] <Dormot> i have one
[12:41] <mansour> then sudo chown <userid> /var/www
[12:41] <phr34ck> Dormot, don't use chmod 777
[12:41] <Dormot> its called Server
[12:42] <Dormot> im not too familiar with linux commands, as you know im fairly new
[12:42] <phr34ck> chmod 777 gives READ WRITE EXCECUTE permissions to everyone.
[12:43] <Dormot> so what command do i use to give permission to the account Server to access the var/www folder
[12:44] <lasindi> Hi all, I need a program that can cut out a segment of video in a video file, nothing fancier. I've been searching in Synaptic and found nothing, and I also tried Jahshaka, but it appears to be too buggy at this point. Any suggestions for video editing software on ubuntu?
[12:45] <jpjacobs> Dormot, i would first look what group is /var/www in, then add Server to that group, and then make the folder group read/write/execute
[12:45] <jpjacobs> Dormot, so open a terminal, and do ls -l /var |grep www. there you see d<some other stuff> <owner<<group>...
[12:46] <Dormot> ok
[12:46] <jpjacobs> lasindi, kino or cinelera (or the name is something similar to that)
[12:47] <Dormot> OMG MY OWN SERVER IS WORKING!!!!
[12:47] <Dormot> woot
[12:47] <finalbeta> When plugging my USB disk, Ubuntu's seems to freeze up for about 5-10 seconds, is this common behaviour? Doesn't seem verry ok.
[12:47] <Dormot> 1st time
[12:47] <jpjacobs> Dormot, then add server to the group you just found: sudo gpasswd -a Server <group>
[12:48] <Dormot> all done
[12:48] <Dormot> the alot jpjacobs
[12:48] <Dormot> thnx*
[12:48] <Dormot> its finally working
[12:48] <phr34ck> what does ls /var do ?
[12:48] <jpjacobs> Dormot, and then, make the folder read/write/execute for that group with chmod -R g+rwx /var/www
[12:48] <jpjacobs> np
[12:49] <enyc> Hrrm... Imhaving trouble finding something on ubuntu-wiki. Please point me at wherever the 'right' procedure-information for 32bit firefox on amd64 (dapper, but edgy information would be good too) is
[12:49] <mena> ! pastebin
[12:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:49] <Dormot> burepe u there?
[12:49] <mena> Some one help
[12:49] <enyc> mena: maybe
[12:49] <pavl> why is my xchat always showin that fuckin' channel list when on connect? help me, i'm a newbie
[12:49] <mena> enyc, okay see this and tell me if there is some worng
[12:49] <jvl> morning all
[12:50] <Flannel> phr34ck: it holds things of varying size : http://www.secguru.com/files/cheatsheet/linux-file-structure.jpg
[12:50] <_BS_> jvl, morning?!
[12:50] <enyc> ! 32bitchroot
[12:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 32bitchroot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:50] <jvl> _BS_: yep to me it is ;)
[12:50] <mena> enyc. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/934/
[12:51] <lasindi> jpjacobs: Kino warns me when I import my video that it's not a DV file and fails to import; do you know why this might be?
[12:51] <_BS_> jvl, well where are you?:)
[12:51] <_BS_> oops
[12:51] <mena> enyc,  see this and teel me if you can if there is something wrong http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/934/
[12:51] <jvl> im trying to get an ubuntu box to work as a proxy server - I already installed Squid and configured it - but I need to configure my network cards to share the internet connection. could anyone point me in the right direction? thx
[12:52] <enyc> mena: right... so you have 1 / and 4 other partitions iin /media and cdrom and floppy mounts.
[12:52] <enyc> mena: on edgy....
[12:52] <janez> hello, I need someone to help with making driver from source
[12:53] <mena> enyc, yes but the problem is hda6 dosent mount
[12:53] <bakert> where are you stuck janez?
[12:53] <enyc> mena: try 'sudo mount /dev/hda6' -- what message appears ?
[12:53] <janez> I'm getting errors
[12:54] <bakert> janez, can you post here (if a single line) or at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (if long)
[12:54] <mena> enyc, mount: can't find /dev/hda6 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[12:55] <peace-keeper> what i do if my display resolution is wrong AND the FixVideoResolutionHowto doesnt work?
[12:55] <bakert> peace-keeper, search for your hardware specifically and the word ubuntu in google?  I assume the FixVideoResolutionHowTo took you through trying a different driver?
[12:56] <janez> bakert I pasted it on private
[12:56] <bakert> peace-keeper, and you also dpkg-reconfigure
[12:56] <mtholdenss> do most of you use thunderbird on ubuntu?
[12:56] <pi1l> !k3b
[12:56] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[12:57] <enyc> mena: my mistake... try "sudo mount /media/hda6"
[12:57] <peace-keeper> when i do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, i get asked a million questions i dont know the answers for
[12:57] <bakert> mtholdenss, i use gmail but my mum and dad use thunderbird
[12:57] <mena> enyc,ount: special device /dev/disk/by-uuid/e191469c-ecca-4135-9b92-7bc9aad24337 does not exist
[12:57] <bakert> peace-keeper, you need to find the answers to those questions ... googling for your exact hardware should find them.
[12:57] <mena> mount: special device /dev/disk/by-uuid/e191469c-ecca-4135-9b92-7bc9aad24337 does not exist
[12:57] <bakert> peace-keeper, use the make and model number
[12:58] <IntuitiveNipple> jvl: can you expand a bit more on what you mean? do you mean how to redirect outgoing HTTP requests transparently to the proxy?
[12:58] <enyc> mena: right.... that means that the kernel has not found a partition with that UUID i think
[12:58] <peace-keeper> i dont know any of that :)
[12:58] <peace-keeper> its a la
[12:58] <mtholdenss> balkert, so your parents find thunderbird on ubuntu really good?
[12:58] <peace-keeper> its a laptop with a specific screen resolution
[12:58] <mena> enyc, SO what to do
[12:58] <peace-keeper> 1440x900
[12:58] <mena> enyc, i already had this partition
[12:58] <peace-keeper> its not in the list
[12:58] <enyc> mena: look at "ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid/"
[12:58] <mtholdenss> bakert*
[12:58] <pi1l> !programming
[12:58] <bakert> mtholdenss, i don't know about "really good" but they are happy with it.  they use the junk mail thing.  for that reason they prefer it to outlook express when they used to be on windows.
[12:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about programming - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:58] <pi1l> !eclipse
[12:59] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 412 kB
[12:59] <pi1l> !kdevelop
[12:59] <ubotu> kdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 7894 kB, installed size 24892 kB
[12:59] <mena> enyc, its get a message send it ti you on pastebin
[12:59] <pi1l> !cpp
[12:59] <ubotu> cpp: The GNU C preprocessor (cpp). In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.1-6ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 30 kB, installed size 96 kB
[12:59] <pi1l> !opengl
[12:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:59] <bakert> peace-keeper, if you search for the make and model of your laptop on google possibly adding "xorg.conf" or "ubuntu" to the search you should come up with some useful info.
[12:59] <janez> bakert: do you have it now?
[12:59] <bakert> janez, 'fraid not!
[12:59] <mena> enyc, i found the hda6 in the message
[01:00] <enyc> !32bitfirefox
[01:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 32bitfirefox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:00] <mtholdenss> bakert, im just about to convert my parents from win xp to ubuntu, and they use mail a bit so i hope they like thunderbird
[01:00] <janez> root@ubuntu:/home/janez/Desktop/nozomi# make
[01:00] <janez> Warning: Compiling for 2.6:
[01:00] <janez> make -C /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build SUBDIRS=/home/janez/Desktop/nozomi modules
[01:00] <janez> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build: No such file or directory. Stop.
[01:00] <janez> make: *** [default]  Error 2
[01:00] <bakert> mtholdenss, i'm sure they will.  desktop mail clients are all very similar these days.  what do they use currently?
[01:01] <mtholdenss> bakert, outlook express..
[01:01] <enyc> mena: yes... and does the UUID match-up ?
[01:01] <janez> it's my first time use of Xchat so ...
[01:01] <bakert> mtholdenss, basically the same app, then, with a few better features in thunderbird like junk mail.  they will be find.
[01:01] <bakert> s/find/fine/
[01:01] <mtholdenss> kool :)
[01:01] <Dakylla> hi
[01:01] <mena> enyc, MATCH  with fstab
[01:01] <mena> or what
[01:01] <bakert> the parents of the world must be converted!
[01:02] <bakert> ;)
[01:02] <enyc> mena: pastebin the   /dev/disk/by-uuid/  list...
[01:02] <mena> okay
[01:02] <Dakylla> im trying to get xen working on ubuntu server. there are problemes related to hotplug, does someone here solved those problems ?
[01:02] <enyc> mena: in  /dev/disk/by-uuid/  you will see what UUIDs the kernel has discovered on partitions....   in /etc/fstab you will see what is supposed to be mounted
[01:03] <ExM3th1x> could somebody help me to add a user to my proftpd server that has only read rights in /home/ftp ???
[01:03] <mtholdenss> bakert, they are starting to get annoyed how buggy xp is, and when i showed em ubuntu they said ok , if you can back up everything, the'll go for it
[01:03] <mena> enycm yes
[01:03] <enyc> mena: if you have "reformatted" the partition (mke2fs  etc.) then it will probably have a new UUID (i think) and then it wont mount that....
[01:03] <mena> enyc, yes
[01:04] <enyc> mena: waiting for pastebin entry
[01:04] <loiseauirc> hi! is it possible to update the song list on ipod?? ubuntu sees my ipod and I can freelly listen songs from it, but I have no idea how to add some new music..
[01:04] <mena> enyc, yes i reformate it to change it to ntfs bec i want it to appear in my friend computer wich is xp but it didnt mount in linux with me so i reformate to ext3
[01:04] <enyc> mena: right... so it will have a new UUID which is mhy its not mounting
[01:04] <bakert> mtholdenss, my parents actually have less problems now.  about the only thing was i set oo writer to save as ".doc" by default
[01:05] <bakert> you can see how to do that here: http://help.bluebones.net/2006/09/doc-by-default-with-openoffice.html
[01:05] <janez> ok, it's here I hope: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/935/
[01:05] <mena> enyc, so what to do here is teh paste bin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/936/
[01:05] <bakert> (i actually wanted them to use abiword and gnumeric because they are quicker to start up but for some reason they never did)
[01:06] <enyc> mena: either change the uuid number in /etc/fstab to math chat which is linked to hda6  9596f376-f2f4-48ef-9ddc-1d873ccda7c4 ....
[01:06] <bakert> janez, that doesn't sound too good.  have you run ./configure with no errors?
[01:06] <bakert> what are you building?
[01:06] <enyc> mena: or... change the /etc/fstab to use the device name and not UUID= at all
[01:06] <janez> bakert ./configure: No such file or directory
[01:07] <enyc> mena: i suggest you just update the UUID in the /etc/fstab (the entry next to '/media/hda6' needs to be "UUID=9596f376-f2f4-48ef-9ddc-1d873ccda7c4"
[01:07] <bakert> janez, oh.  did the instructions just say to do "make" with no configure?  that's not the usual way but it is possible
[01:07] <janez> I'm building nozomi driver for PCMCIA card - globetrotter
[01:07] <mena> so i take this UUID=9596f376-f2f4-48ef-9ddc-1d873ccda7c4 to the fstab right
[01:07] <janez> yes, bakert it says just to make
[01:07] <enyc> mena:  exactly... being careful to change only  that line
[01:07] <mena> enyc, ok
[01:08] <bakert> janez, oh.  where did you download it from.  i'll grab a copy and see if it works for me.
[01:08] <janez> bakert: http://www.pharscape.org/3G/nozomi.tgz
[01:08] <enyc> mena: see.. on edgy partitions are put in by UUID in fstab... which means that a disk could be moved to another location atnd it would still mount.... i.e. it could be moved from /dev/hda to /dev/hdc or  /dev/sda  or whatever....
[01:09] <janez> thanks for helping me
[01:09] <bakert> janez no prob
[01:09] <mena> neyc, ok
[01:09] <loiseauirc> hi! is it possible to update the song list on ipod?? ubuntu sees my ipod and I can freelly listen songs from it, but I have no idea how to add some new music..
[01:09] <enyc> mena: but this means if you reformat partitions when using /etc/fstab wap-of-doing-mounting  you need to update the UUID number ;-)
[01:10] <mena> ok will see
[01:10] <enyc> loiseauirc: you can in edgy as I understand...... not tried this myself
[01:10] <loiseauirc> enyc: ok, i'll try, thnx ;)
[01:11] <mena> enyc, i changed the link to what you give then i must restart t see the result if the partition didt appear
[01:11] <enyc> mena: try "sudo mount -a" to mount everything...
[01:11] <mena> okay
[01:12] <enyc> mena: which is essentially what happens on reboot anyway
[01:12] <bakert> janez, i get the same error.  there is no "build" directory in there.  just having a poke around to see if i can make it behave
[01:12] <janez> bakert OK
[01:12] <mena> ok
[01:12] <enyc> mena: check 'mount' which will tell you what is apparently mounted
[01:12] <enyc> mena: or 'cat /proc/mounts' which asks the kernel itself
[01:13] <mena> enyc, i found the hda6 but in the last
[01:13] <enyc> mena: ?? (dont understand)
[01:14] <mena> enyc, sorry my englis is nit so good s ..i mean if ount the hada6 but
[01:14] <janez> bakert, I tryed with mkdir build in /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/, but no success
[01:14] <mena> enyc , wati i will paste bin to you
[01:14] <mena> ok
[01:14] <enyc> ** Somebody please point me at information on running 32bit firefox on amd64 please ;-)
[01:15] <enyc> mena: ok
[01:15] <Flannel> !chroot | enyc
[01:15] <ubotu> enyc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[01:15] <enyc> Flannel: is the the right way to do this... cannto just install the 32bit libraries and run that way?
[01:16] <Flannel> enyc: chroot is the correct way
[01:16] <seanj> or just install 32 bit Ubuntu like I did?
[01:17] <bakert> janez, i think the problem is that neither of us have the necessary "stuff" installed to build our own kernel.
[01:17] <enyc> Flannel: ok thankyou ;-)
[01:17] <mena> enyc,http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/937/
[01:17] <bakert> janez, if you google around that directory you can see lots of drivers that use it
[01:17] <bakert> janez, so i would say there's some package for kernel/driver building that you need installed
[01:18] <enyc> mena: there you go.. its now mounted ;-) .... its on the end since that was most recently mounted...
[01:18] <bakert> janez, of course if you "apt-cache search kernel" there's a zillion results!
[01:18] <enyc> mena: permissions to write to that are a different problem ;-)
[01:18] <janez> bakert, I have build-essential and linux-headers instaled
[01:18] <bakert> janez, perhaps linux-kernel-devel ??
[01:18] <enyc> mena: you might need to make sure your user account is permitted to mrite to that filesystem... or it may not be a problem....
[01:18] <toothpick> do you recommend automatix or something else for adding codecs and fglrx easily?
[01:18] <enyc> mena: does it work?
[01:18] <mena> enyc, ^_^
[01:19] <janez> I'll try it
[01:19] <bakert> janez i'm afraid we're reaching the edges of my (not amazing) expertise!
[01:19] <mena> enyc. i think i will need the permision
[01:19] <janez> thank you anyway
[01:19] <mena> enyc, i think there is chmod do that
[01:20] <gnoma> ^^
[01:20] <bakert> janez, there's also the kernel-build-(VERSION) package(s).  they explictly mention "modules" which is the target that the Makefile tries to fire off (after moving to that "build" dir that we don't have)
[01:20] <mena> enyc, there is rw typed in the hda6 thats mean i have the permision right
[01:21] <mena> enyc, i will rebort then come to tell you
[01:22] <janez> bakert, OK
[01:22] <[iM] Nicotine-AFK> anyone here? I have a few questions about ubuntu before I switch from windows
[01:22] <bakert> Arethius, fire away ...
[01:22] <cokeslut> yo
[01:22] <janez> bakert, they are for 2.4 kernel
[01:22] <shpond> sup?
[01:22] <jvl> IntuitiveNipple: sorry was afk for a but but im back. what i pretend to do is to make my ubuntu box work as the gateway for all others
[01:23] <bakert> janez, ah ... ignore me then
[01:23] <Arethius> bakert, I'm an avid video gamer (I'm going to school for it) and I want to know the easiest way to play my games
[01:24] <Arethius> my cousin told me about a windows emulator of sorts but I when I was trying it out, I was trying a 64bit version of redhat and I couldn't get it working
[01:25] <jvl> IntuitiveNipple: the setup will be something like this: modem -> ubuntu box -> router -> all other PCs
[01:25] <Arethius> now though, I just want a 32bit version
[01:26] <mena> enyc. its have benn mounted but the permision is not ead and write
[01:26] <mena> enyc,
[01:26] <evian51> hi
[01:26] <evian51> i have a really basic question
[01:26] <jvl> IntuitiveNipple: im still trying to make all other pc's access internet thru my ubuntu box.
[01:26] <evian51> i m trying to connect to my modem with wifi
[01:26] <jvl> IntuitiveNipple: hope this helps clarify what im trying to achieve here
[01:27] <mena> enyc, are you here
[01:27] <evian51> seems my wireless card is detected as it is in the network adapter list
[01:27] <evian51> i enter the ssid name
[01:27] <evian51> the pass
[01:27] <evian51> it update the config info
[01:27] <IntuitiveNipple> jvl: yes, the ubuntu box is effectively your 'router' - are you using iptables to manage the netfilters?
[01:28] <evian51> but then if i try to connect to anything nothing work
[01:28] <evian51> do i do something wrong ?
[01:28] <IntuitiveNipple> jvl: to do transparent proxying http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/TransparentProxy.html
[01:28] <evian51> i m also looking for a way to display the available wifi network
[01:29] <evian51> i m really new to ubuntu ....
[01:29] <evian51> just installed it
[01:29] <IntuitiveNipple> evian51: Wireless can be a bit of a mess still, unlike in Windows, but you should see something listed by the Network Manager
[01:30] <Viroo> hi
[01:30] <IntuitiveNipple> evian51: I'd recommend reading a lot of the HowTo's on the ubuntu wiki, and in the forums
[01:30] <Viroo> anyone ca n help?
[01:30] <Bhaal> VoX: Dont get your hopes up, Im not jumping ship, just helping this channel for the good of all...
[01:30] <abhinay> !mplayer
[01:30] <evian51> ok
[01:30] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[01:30] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[01:30] <VoX> Bhaal: pfft
[01:31] <Viroo> I have text files that are encoded with windows-1256 .. the gedit cant read them well, how can I change the encoding ?
[01:31] <VoX> Bhaal: give in to the dark side
[01:31] <Bhaal> I thought I was already on the dark side...  from your perspective anyway :)
[01:31] <VoX> well no.. you're on the /wrong/ side :)
[01:31] <evian51> so it might be because my network card doesn t work  ?
[01:31] <Viroo> plz help
[01:31] <evian51> IntuitiveNipple ?
[01:31] <Bhaal> VoX: From your perspective
[01:31] <Bhaal> :)
[01:32] <VoX> Bhaal: and that's the only one that counts. :D
[01:32] <IntuitiveNipple> evian51: There are a LOT of issues with WiFi and no one way to support the various cards. As I said, read up on it.
[01:32] <evian51> i mean isn t well installed ?
[01:32] <evian51> k
[01:32] <evian51> thks
[01:32] <Bhaal> VoX: Sure sure...  At least its still .debs
[01:33] <VoX> heh true
[01:33] <IntuitiveNipple> evian51: There's several ways to install drivers for WiFi cards, and it all depends on a) the chipset in your WiFi device and b) what kind of encryption your WiFi network is using
[01:33] <Arethius> Is anyone not busy and know a few things about windows emulation?
[01:33] <Bhaal> And on that note I shall now go silent in here before starting some kind of flame war...
[01:33] <petula> hallo how can i solve this problem on Dapper Drake udevd-event [3214] : wait_for_sysfs: waiting for '/sys/devices/platform/i82365.0/bus' failed
[01:34] <mena> friends why whn i install kubuntu dsektop thro ubuntu ut had some errros like there is no icones appear and the resolution of the screen was bad wasnt like as it in ubutu so why thats happened
[01:35] <VoX> Bhaal: but that takes all the fun out of it :(
[01:35] <bakert> Arethius, the emulator is called WINE.  It does most Windows programs these days and lots of games (I think - I'm not much of a game player I'm afraid).
[01:35] <[corn] > sup?
[01:35] <mena> if i use wine do i willn need anti-virus
[01:35] <lupine_85> WINE Is Not an Emulator :p
[01:35] <VoX> mena: no
[01:36] <lupine_85> and no, wine doesn't do well running viruses
[01:36] <lupine_85> they tend to use undocumented features it doesn't implement
[01:36] <mena> VoX, okay
[01:36] <mena> lupine_85. ok
[01:36] <VoX> lupine_85: "features" :)
[01:36] <IntuitiveNipple> Linux and Windows both suffer from the worst virus there is - the User installing programs :)
[01:36] <lupine_85> that's what MS would call them :p
[01:36] <[corn] > I'll find out
[01:37] <mena> VoX. i nedd to change a permision for one of my partitions i want it tio be rw
[01:37] <mena> read and write
[01:37] <andreasw> IntuitiveNipple, thats right ^^
[01:37] <jvl> IntuitiveNipple: I followed this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370 but I didnt install dnsmasq or ipmasq
[01:38] <jvl> IntuitiveNipple: did this: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ethX -j MASQUERADE
[01:38] <mena> some help me to change permisions
[01:38] <IntuitiveNipple> jvl: let me read it
[01:39] <jvl> IntuitiveNipple: thx :)
[01:39] <jvl> mena: what perms do you want to change?
[01:39] <stefg> mena: what filesystem do you have on the drive you want to write to?
[01:39] <mena> stefg, xet3
[01:39] <mena> ext3
[01:40] <mena> stefg, i want to change it to read and write
[01:40] <lasse_> hi, anyone wants to help me out 2 secs with azureus web interface? Ive tried both Swing web interface and html web UI, but when I enter 27.0.0.1/(6886 or 6883) it gives me a 404 not found. Could it be a problem that i also run apache?
[01:41] <stefg> mena :chown, or chmod... depends
[01:41] <jvl> mena: you can do something like chmode or chown
[01:41] <mena> stefg, okay
[01:41] <mena> jvl, okay
[01:41] <IntuitiveNipple> jvl: that thread looks good, has it helped you get your LAN connected ?
[01:42] <IntuitiveNipple> jvl: also, did you read the transparent proxy HowTo I posted?
[01:42] <jvl> IntuitiveNipple: I havent read the transparent proxy yet
[01:42] <jvl> IntuitiveNipple: I can ping my ubuntu box from another pc
[01:42] <IntuitiveNipple> jvl: ok, thats the easy bit :)
[01:42] <lasse_> forget it i misspelled 127.0.0.1
[01:43] <jvl> IntuitiveNipple: my ubuntu box has access to Internet and can ping the others too
[01:43] <jvl> IntuitiveNipple: only thing im missing is giving access to the others to surf the web
[01:43] <phr34ck> is lamp available in the repo. ?
[01:43] <stefg> !lamp
[01:43] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:43] <IntuitiveNipple> jvl: you need to ensure IP forwarding is enabled as is described in that forum thread
[01:44] <stefg> jvl: maybe http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/3/58/ helps ...
[01:45] <jvl> IntuitiveNipple: echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward? did that but let em check it
[01:45] <jvl> thx stefg Ill look into it
[01:45] <IntuitiveNipple> jvl: ok, that good
[01:45] <jvl> mena: chmod 660 filename for instance will grant it write+read perm
[01:46] <jvl> s/em/me
[01:47] <mena> jvl, okay
[01:47] <mena> jvl, i chmod
[01:48] <Sikavica> Can someone please tell me if there is a way for translating the book Dive into Python via Rosetta?
[01:48] <mena> jvl, never mind accedent
[01:48] <jvl> IntuitiveNipple: cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward gives me 0.
[01:48] <jvl> should be 1 isnt it?
[01:49] <IntuitiveNipple> yeah, i think it should
[01:49] <jvl> yeah thats what I thought
[01:49] <jvl> wonder why it isnt
[01:50] <IntuitiveNipple> hmm, maybe not though
[01:50] <mena> thansk friends for help by .....god bless you
[01:51] <jvl> IntuitiveNipple: how so? on that thread it says on step2 to do # echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[01:51] <jvl> or you meant something different
[01:52] <IntuitiveNipple> yeah... have you tried installing the firestarter package to do all this for you automatically?
[01:52] <phr34ck> is there a difference between emacs and xemacs ?
[01:52] <JoKoT3> x :p
[01:52] <IntuitiveNipple> firestarter is a nice front-end to iptables configuration
[01:53] <CCFliege> moin
[01:53] <phr34ck> JoKoT3, so funny. Seriously, is there any difference ?
[01:53] <JoKoT3> I think xemacs is a graphical emacs, as gvim for vim
[01:53] <IntuitiveNipple> Once installed Firestarter appears in the System>Administration menu
[01:54] <jvl> IntuitiveNipple: saw it mentioned but didnt install it
[01:54] <BottazzoSP> hi guys.. its possible install ubuntu edgy at commando line? im trying to install in microsoft virtual machine.. and i have one problem.. width ColorDeph.. x server doesnt works =[
[01:54] <jvl> IntuitiveNipple: might try it if this 0->1 change does not work
[01:54] <IntuitiveNipple> jvl: I'm trying it now, it looks good. The setup wizard when you first start it asks if you want to enable Internet connection sharing
[01:55] <jvl> IntuitiveNipple: wow. got to try it then :)
[01:56] <IntuitiveNipple> I'm just installed the DHCP server so it can handle that for me too
[01:56] <phr34ck> IntuitiveNipple, can I squeese you?
[01:56] <stefg> BottazzoSP: you are looking for the 'alternate' Installer. Diferent CD... BTW there's a load of premade images of ubuntu aroubd the net, so why bother to start with an install, if you can DL a premade default install as vmware image?
[01:56] <enry183> i have just downloaded an amatorial dvd in .vob format, menu etc... how can i see it?
[01:56] <jvl> IntuitiveNipple: yeah but that part its already done :)
[01:56] <jvl> on my end
[01:57] <IntuitiveNipple> thats good then - you don't have to have it manage DHCP.
[01:57] <BottazzoSP> stefg because im a noob =/ .. im gonna read something about premade image.. thanks man..
[01:58] <jvl> IntuitiveNipple: i only see firestarter for ubuntu 5.04. thats the one u tried?
[01:58] <IntuitiveNipple> i installed it from Synaptic - I'm on Edgy
[01:58] <dv_> will upstart be improved in feisty?
[01:58] <phr34ck> how can I burn a cd? I have some files that i want to burn on a CD. and will that CD work on every platform or not?
[01:58] <jvl> humm seems I need to add a repository then
[01:58] <IntuitiveNipple> I've got universe and multiverse enabled i think - basically everything :)
[02:00] <jvl> just enabled multiverse. living on the edge ;)
[02:00] <IntuitiveNipple> go for it :p
[02:00] <IdleOne> phr34ck: you can use gnomebaker or K3B or serpentine to burn cd
[02:01] <phr34ck> anyone here tried XEmacs ?
[02:01] <IntuitiveNipple> I just realised I don't have bind running on this one yet!
[02:01] <IntuitiveNipple> i'd forgotten i'd set another server as the DNS whilst i got it set up :p
[02:01] <Mikey> i dont blive it, did you guys stay here all night??
[02:02] <phr34ck> I want something that is very small, yet effective. I don't want all those options, I just need an application that will burn.Nothing more, nothing less.
[02:03] <IdleOne> phr34ck: serpentine is good so is gnomebaker not complicated
[02:03] <kanzie> Im trying to make fuse2.6.1 to get my ntfs-3g running on my edgy but need kernel source, where do I find the source for 2.6.17-10
[02:03] <phr34ck> IdleOne, okay. Will try one of them.
[02:03] <Jowi> phr34ck, i vote for graveman
[02:03] <IdleOne> phr34ck: serpentine is default in ubuntu gnomebaker is in universe
[02:03] <jvl> IntuitiveNipple: hummm just added multiverse and I still can't find firestarter
[02:03] <IdleOne> brb
[02:03] <IntuitiveNipple> let me check for you
[02:03] <Godsey> is there a howto on how to pin the kernel version?
[02:04] <phr34ck> IdleOne, is there no application installed by default?
[02:04] <IntuitiveNipple> Its in System Administration (universe)
[02:04] <kenthomson> Hello!
[02:05] <jvl> IntuitiveNipple: i do a search on synpatic for firestarter and returns None
[02:05] <jvl> *synaptic
[02:05] <kenthomson> Can someone tell me what should i try xgl/compiz/beryl/others? Which is the most recommended? Stability is a must. You see, i can't i have a fancy but unstable system :)
[02:05] <jvl> IntuitiveNipple: adding universe now
[02:05] <enry183> what hell i have to burn to see the dvd?
[02:05] <phr34ck> jvl, pay attention to uppercase letters. The packages are case-sensitive.
[02:06] <jrib> kenthomson: compiz will be more stable than beryl
[02:06] <jvl> IntuitiveNipple: if after this it can't find it then Im going to be o_O
[02:06] <enry183> only video_ts files?
[02:06] <jvl> phr34ck: tried it already . when I finish typing Firestarter it does a lower() ;)
[02:06] <phr34ck> jvl, so Firestarter is different then firestarter.
[02:06] <kenthomson> jrib, will you say that compiz will be absolutely stable on your system? You see there's no point in eye-candy that makes a system unstable
[02:06] <jvl> phr34ck: yep. but as soon as I type Firestarter it changes to firestarter
[02:06] <papucho> why can't VLC display latin letrs?
[02:07] <papucho> why can't VLC display latin text?
[02:07] <papucho> why can't VLC display latin text in subtitles?
[02:07] <jrib> kenthomson: I've never tried compiz, but there's not reason you can't try it and turn it off if you don't want it
[02:07] <Mikey> can anyone help me set up my wifi card? please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/939/
[02:07] <kenthomson> jrib, and could you point me to a guide or something for a completely new user to install it successfully and have a basic idea to configure it?
[02:07] <jrib> kenthomson: if stability is your main concern though, I'd say you are safer with no eye candy
[02:08] <IntuitiveNipple> firestarter is all lower-case
[02:08] <jrib> !compiz | kenthomson
[02:08] <ubotu> kenthomson: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:08] <jvl> et voil!!!
[02:08] <jvl> I found it
[02:08] <Jc1963> Anyone know how to change VNC  to automatically accept a connection?
[02:08] <jvl> praise da lordaaaaa
[02:08] <jvl> ;)
[02:08] <phr34ck> I hate it when XChat closes for no frigging reason.
[02:08] <jvl> phr34ck: already found it ;)
[02:09] <phr34ck> jvl, good.
[02:10] <jvl> phr34ck: never had that problem with xchat before
[02:10] <jvl> fortunately
[02:10] <phr34ck> jvl, I might have clicked something ;p
[02:10] <phr34ck> CTRL + something = close ... but what is it ?
[02:11] <jvl> phr34ck: wel...maybe CTRL - Reset?
[02:11] <jvl> ;)
[02:11] <phr34ck> *har*
[02:12] <jvl> hehe
[02:12] <phr34ck> I love Ubuntu.
[02:12] <phr34ck> Ubuntu turns me on.
[02:12] <kanzie> Can someone please tell me where to find the kernel source for 2.6.17-10.generic
[02:12] <Mikey> can anyone help me set up my wifi card? please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/939/
[02:12] <kenthomson> jrib, that link shouts at my face that i am using extremely unstable software, and threatens me and shakes a fist at me....so i am not trying it :(
[02:12] <phr34ck> kanzie, did you try to search for it?
[02:12] <biotrox> !mp3
[02:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:13] <jvl> well going for lunch now. thx IntuitiveNipple, phr34ck for your help. I might come back if Firestarter doesnt do it for me. run while you can ;)
[02:13] <phr34ck> hehe
[02:13] <phr34ck> jvl, have a good lunch.
[02:13] <phr34ck> I hope it's meat that you're going to eat.
[02:13] <IntuitiveNipple> jvl: firestarter looks great - it even shows you active connections
[02:13] <jvl> is there anything else?
[02:14] <IntuitiveNipple> I've just got it up and running - nice GUI
[02:14] <jvl> IntuitiveNipple: going to give it a spin after eating. cant...think...straight...need food
[02:14] <IntuitiveNipple> i know the feeling... good luck with it
[02:14] <jvl> IntuitiveNipple: anything that has a config wizard scores at least 1 point with me ;)
[02:14] <phr34ck> jvl, shame on you.
[02:14] <Mikey> can anyone help me set up my wifi card? please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/939/
[02:15] <kanzie> phr34ck, yep... gave me the tree and I dont know if that is right
[02:15] <IntuitiveNipple> jvl: as long is it works, and doesn't get in the way of our primary goals
[02:16] <jvl> phr34ck: I know I know...
[02:16] <jvl> IntuitiveNipple: thats right. I just need it to work
[02:16] <jvl> well going now thx again
[02:17] <IntuitiveNipple> Human brains are visual & conceptual  - no point forcing them to be procedural for no good benefit
[02:17] <Godsey> could someone tell me if this is the correct way to pin a kernel? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/940/
[02:18] <anushsh> j #oe
[02:22] <Mikey> can anyone help me set up my wifi card? please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/939/
[02:25] <IntuitiveNipple> Mikey: have you checked this Howto out? http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/Ubuntu_Guide_To_install_Wireless_Cards_CARDS_PCMCIA_RT2500_54mbit_Siemens_Gigaset_108_USB_Adapter
[02:27] <Lurner> Hello to the room.. I'm going to try to install Linux for the 1,000,000,000 in the last week.. I'm going to format my drive using Partion Magic.
[02:27] <Lurner> 1st I make a swap file
[02:27] <Lurner> then I make a Linux Partion
[02:27] <Fubarovic> why would you use partition magic
[02:27] <Lurner> Should I make them both primary partions
[02:27] <IntuitiveNipple> Lurner: the ubuntu live CD for desktop handles all that for you, via gparted
[02:27] <Lurner> that's another discussion
[02:28] <Lurner> I am in the middle of doing it
[02:28] <Lurner> the question is.. no matter what utility I'm using.. should they both be set to primary ?
[02:28] <Jowi> Lurner, how many primary do you have?
[02:28] <IntuitiveNipple> lurner: I recently did an install where I added an extended partition, then in it I have a swap (3GB), boot (512MB ext3), root (20GB ext3) home (the rest, ext3)
[02:28] <finalbeta> don't use partition magic unless you desperately want to lose data. That said, take backups.
[02:28] <Fubarovic> doesnt matter for linux Lurner
[02:29] <Fubarovic> primary or logical, it's all good
[02:29] <Lurner> I have set up two partitions
[02:29] <Lurner> one swap , one ext2.. both are set as primary
[02:29] <Lurner> should I set the swap or the ext2 to be active ?
[02:29] <Jowi> Lurner, as Fubarovic say. just remember that there is a limitation on how many primary partitions you can have on one disk (4 is the number)
[02:29] <IntuitiveNipple> thats fine
[02:29] <Fubarovic> no
[02:29] <Fubarovic> if the ext2 is going to be your /
[02:29] <Lurner> I'm only making two partions
[02:29] <Fubarovic> change it to ext3
[02:30] <Lurner> yes ext2 is the root
[02:30] <LjL> Lurner: set ext2 as active, though i don't think it makes much of a difference if you have Grub on your MBR
[02:30] <Fubarovic> make it ext3
[02:30] <Lurner> ext3 has failed too many times to try that again
[02:30] <Fubarovic> make it ext3
[02:30] <LjL> ext3... fail?
[02:30] <Lurner> yes
[02:30] <Fubarovic> that's not a question or suggestion
[02:30] <Lurner> failed
[02:30] <IntuitiveNipple> if its failed, there's a reason - maybe points to bigger problems
[02:30] <Fubarovic> then let ubuntu handle the partitioning
[02:30] <Lurner> ubuntu won't install
[02:30] <Fubarovic> if partition magic can't do it
[02:31] <Lurner> I'm using DSL
[02:31] <Fubarovic> hm
[02:31] <Godsey> damn small linux?
[02:31] <Lurner> Magic can do it.. I just want to know how to set it up
[02:31] <IntuitiveNipple> Lurner: can you boot ubuntu to a command prompt?
[02:31] <Fubarovic> 1 swap, 1 _journalling_ fs for linux
[02:31] <Lurner> Ubuntu dies on the setup on my thinkpad T22
[02:31] <Lurner> no
[02:31] <Lurner> no command prompt
[02:31] <Lurner> I haven't tried installing to shell
[02:31] <Fubarovic> i installed ubuntu from the alt. cd on my t43
[02:31] <Fubarovic> running nicely
[02:32] <IntuitiveNipple> yeah, the alternate CD is like the 'get me out of trouble' CD
[02:32] <Lurner> you mentioned gparted ?
[02:32] <Fubarovic> IntuitiveNipple, i used it more like a "i'll decide for myself what i want" CD
[02:33] <Godsey> Lurner: what happens?
[02:33] <Godsey> does the screen give you odd stripes?
[02:33] <Lurner> when i install ubuntu ? no stripes.. just stalls out
[02:34] <sunnz2> Does ubuntu server comes with madwifi driver?
[02:34] <Godsey> does the install itself work and then fail to boot?
[02:34] <Tamacracka> Anyone here use Airsnort?
[02:34] <IntuitiveNipple> you don't need gparted - if you have a Linux command prompt simply do fdisk /dev/hdA (where A is the drive) and create your partitions (n, p, X - t, X, 82 - n, p, Y - w) then mkswap /dev/hdaX mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdaY
[02:34] <Lurner> in the last week I have tried.. DSL, Ubuntu, Kubuntu,Mephis, Fedora Core 6, Santa Fe,Owl and Morphing Morphix
[02:35] <Jowi> Lurner, none of them work?
[02:35] <Lurner> the only ones that would even run or install were DSL and Morphing Morphix
[02:35] <IntuitiveNipple> sounds like you've got bigger problems - are you using an install CD?
[02:35] <Jowi> you must have some major hardware problems.
[02:35] <Lurner> Each of them failed in a different way
[02:35] <Tamacracka> Anyone here use Airsnort?
[02:36] <Lurner> It's just a plain vanilla Thinkpad
[02:36] <Lurner> shouldn't be all that weird
[02:36] <IntuitiveNipple> sounds tainted to me!
[02:36] <Lurner> PIII with 128 or Mem
[02:36] <stefg> Lurner: So 2.4 kernels work, 2.6 do not?
[02:36] <Lurner> tainted ?
[02:36] <Jowi> ...with a faulty HDD?
[02:36] <Fubarovic> that's right
[02:36] <Fubarovic> ehm
[02:36] <Fubarovic> woops
[02:36] <IntuitiveNipple> tained - as in something faulty to be causing that much bother
[02:36] <kleinlappies> hello
[02:36] <Lurner> Don't know my kernel numbers well enough to answer
[02:37] <Lurner> When DSL is installed it works
[02:37] <sunnz2> oes ubuntu server comes with madwifi driver? If so, how do I activate it? (Should be a kernel module.)
[02:37] <Jaak_> Can someone help me to some info on why the automounting of usb and cd/dvd drive doesn't work anymore?
[02:37] <Lurner> same with Morphing, and all flavours of windows
[02:37] <Fubarovic> install ubuntu from the alt. cd, Lurner
[02:37] <Fubarovic> it skips all the bloat/crap
[02:37] <Lurner> I will try ubuntu again right now and report back
[02:38] <Lurner> how can I tell what version I have.. ?
[02:38] <janez> can someone help me a bit please
[02:38] <stefg> Lurner : Morphix uis quite old IIRC and DSL uses the 2.4 kernel for space reasons. a theory might be that your motherbord isn't compatible with the 2.6-kernel series
[02:38] <Tamacracka> Anyone here use Airsnort? I'm gettin this error and I have NO idea as to what I need to do in order to fix this problem:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/941/
[02:38] <Godsey> stefg: google yeilds many positive 6.10 + t22
[02:38] <Lurner> Hmm.. that's a possibility
[02:38] <sunnz2> oes ubuntu server comes with madwifi driver? If so, how do I activate it? (Should be a kernel module.)
[02:39] <Fubarovic> Lurner, if you can select "install command line interface system" from the boot prompt, you've got the alt. cd
[02:39] <Fubarovic> what does a wifi card do in a server?
[02:39] <Fubarovic> :P
[02:39] <Godsey> Fubarovic: pass packets?
[02:39] <sunnz2> To connect to the network...
[02:39] <sunnz2> Or serve as an WIFI AP.
[02:40] <Lurner> OK.. once again.. do I set the swap or the ext2 (root) partion as the active one.?
[02:40] <IntuitiveNipple> sunnz2: madwifi is in the linux-restricted-modules package in Edgy
[02:40] <Fubarovic> NO!
[02:40] <Fubarovic> dammit
[02:40] <janez> how to get right Kernel-Headers ?
[02:40] <Jowi> Lurner, ext2
[02:40] <IntuitiveNipple> sunnz2: http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/Ubuntu
[02:40] <sunnz2> Ok, how do I get a list of installed modules?
[02:40] <Fubarovic> active doesn't matter for linux
[02:40] <Fubarovic> ext2 does
[02:40] <stefg> Lurner: neither grub nor lilo care for 'active' partitions.. that's a DOS leftover
[02:41] <Godsey> Lurner: you may be hitting a problem having 1 big ext2 partition
[02:41] <Tamacracka> Anyone here use Airsnort? I'm gettin this error and I have NO idea as to what I need to do in order to fix this problem:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/941/
[02:41] <Fubarovic> at least make it ext3 once ubuntu is installed
[02:41] <Godsey> T22 bios is old
[02:41] <Godsey> try making a single 50 meg ext2 as /boot
[02:41] <Godsey> as partition 1
[02:41] <Fubarovic> hm, good point
[02:41] <janez> bakert I need your help again
[02:41] <bakert> janez yo
[02:41] <janez> how to get right Kernel-Headers ?
[02:41] <bakert> what's up
[02:41] <bakert> ?
[02:42] <jhaig> Fubarovic: Does ubuntu not make the partitions ext3 by default?  I assumed it did and didn't bother checking.
[02:42] <bakert> janez, it must have been superseded by something else if it is available for 2.4 but not for 2.6
[02:42] <bakert> janez i guess?
[02:42] <Lurner> I'm busy doing the work now.. please address any more helpfull comments to pm and I will be able to see them when I come back to this screen.. thanks in advance for your help
[02:43] <Tamacracka> Anyone here use Airsnort? I'm gettin this error and I have NO idea as to what I need to do in order to fix this problem:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/941/
[02:43] <bakert> Does anyone know what the 2.6 equivalent of the kernel-headers-2.4.blah packages are?
[02:43] <Fubarovic> jhaig, i'm guessing Lurner uses partition magic to create ext2 partitions
[02:44] <Fubarovic> jhaig, on the alt.cd installer you can choose ext2/ext3/xfs/jfs/reiser
[02:44] <jhaig> Fubarovic: Oh, right.  Thanks.
[02:44] <Lurner> av
[02:44] <Lurner> av
[02:44] <Fubarovic> i only installed regular ubuntu once, don't know about the supported filesystems there
[02:44] <jhaig> In fact I partitioned it manually, and I'm sure I would have made it ext3.
[02:44] <mx-zoom> bakert: linux-image-*
[02:44] <Godsey> I use the server cd :)
[02:44] <Lurner> opps.. too many keyboards.. let me put this one to the side
[02:44] <bakert> mx-zoom, thanks
[02:45] <janez> anyone: what makes build directory in  /lib/modules/{kernel}/ ?
[02:45] <bakert> janez, reckon you need to install the right linux-image-* package then
[02:45] <bakert> janez, worth a try anyway.
[02:45] <mx-zoom> bakert: sorry, for the headers is linux-headers, for the kenrel is linux-image
[02:45] <Godsey> janez: isn't that a redhat thing?
[02:46] <Lurner> OK.. I've booted to the Live CD on the first page I can hit f1 for boot options.. I see at the top.. 6.06 built on 20060806.1.. what version is this ?
[02:46] <Godsey> Lurner: 6.06
[02:46] <Godsey> try getting the 6.10 alternate install cd
[02:46] <janez> Godsey I don't really  know
[02:46] <Fubarovic> 6.06 build on 20060806
[02:46] <Fubarovic> :P
[02:46] <Lurner> I will
[02:46] <bakert> Ah, Godsey may have hit upon something here.  Perhaps this driver was set up for RedHat and the makefile will need changing for ubuntu????
[02:47] <Godsey> janez: you will find them in /usr/src/linux*/include
[02:47] <Lurner> is there a way to install this cd in some sort of failsafe way ? no X, no probe of hardware, no nothing ?
[02:47] <Lurner> from this screen ?
[02:47] <Godsey> well you can always fudge /lib/modules and make symlinks
[02:47] <bakert> janez, so we probably need to change the Makefile to point at the right place.  It may even be more complicated than that.  I bet Godsey could work it out though ... he sounds like a guru.
[02:47] <phEight> hey guys how does one change the computer name?
[02:48] <Godsey> so oh my system, lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 46 Dec 18 15:01 /lib/modules/2.6.9-42.0.3.plus.c4smp/build -> /usr/src/kernels/2.6.9-42.0.3.plus.c4-smp-i686
[02:48] <Fubarovic> Lurner, you're using a GUI livecd which happens to have an install option
[02:49] <Godsey> so it looks like:
[02:49] <Fubarovic> the alt. cd has an actual installer
[02:49] <DiKKy> wow
[02:49] <janez> Godsey I don't have build directory in /lib/modules/2.6....
[02:49] <DiKKy> shouldnt it be the other way around
[02:49] <ayaz> ah sorry about that
[02:49] <Godsey> ln -s /usr/src/linux*-headers /lib/modules/current/build
[02:49] <Jowi> phEight, "hostname"
[02:49] <Godsey> janez: substitutie correct versions/path above
[02:49] <Lurner> so with this one I have to let the cD boot.. which it won't and then install.. so switch to other version.. version 6.10
[02:50] <toM|vendettA> hi, i have an iso of a cd on my hard drive, how can i mount that iso on a virtual drive??
[02:50] <Lurner> I'll be back
[02:50] <Jaak_> How do i fix the automount bug, automounting of cd/dvd-rom and usb devices?
[02:50] <Lurner> thanks for the hints
[02:50] <IntuitiveNipple> Luner - 6.10 Edgy Eft Alternate CD *not* Desktop Live CD
[02:50] <Jowi> phEight, "sudo hostname newname"
[02:50] <phEight> ah, thank you Jowi
[02:50] <phEight> gotcha
[02:50] <Jowi> to be exact
[02:51] <kenthomson> toM|vendettA, "-mount -t iso -o loop /path/to/.iso /path/to/mountpoint"
[02:52] <kenthomson> toM|vendettA, make it "mount -t iso -o loop /path/to/.iso /path/to/mountpoint"
[02:52] <Godsey> I'm suprised so many debian people resent ubuntu
[02:52] <kenthomson> !offtopic | Godsey
[02:52] <ubotu> Godsey: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:52] <toM|vendettA> okay thanks kenthomson, what if is the path/to/mountpoint
[02:53] <toM|vendettA> kenthomson: can i just do any path or what do you do?
[02:53] <Fubarovic> i resent ubuntu merely because of it popularity
[02:53] <Fubarovic> i've been working with it since this weekend and it's not bad
[02:53] <varsendaggr> how many kb is 8 mb?
[02:53] <kenthomson> toM|vendettA, first of all your nick is complex, secondly i didn't get your question
[02:53] <Jowi> phEight, don't forget to look at or update /etc/hosts if you have altered it in someway. see if your old hostname is written in it and if it is, change it to the new one
[02:53] <Fubarovic> 8192 varsendaggr
[02:53] <kenthomson> toM|vendettA, you need to make a dir as in "sudo mkdir /mnt/iso1"
[02:53] <janez> Godsey thanks, it worked. Just what exact was this command for?
[02:54] <tommyv> kenthomson: sorry about that. and okay, thanks
[02:54] <sunnz2> IntuitiveNipple, well, I have installed linux-restricted-modules; however, it is install in /lib/modules/2.6.19-386 but my kernel is 2.6.19-server
[02:54] <Godsey> janez: which command exactly? the ln -s?
[02:54] <janez> Godsey yes
[02:54] <sunnz2> IntuitiveNipple, so it doesn't seem to work...
[02:54] <kenthomson> then "mount -t iso -o loop /path/to/.iso /mnt/iso1" <path/to/.iso> has to be reaplced with where your iso lies for eg "~/iso/file1.iso"
[02:54] <Godsey> janez: it makes a link from where your package was looking for headers to where ubuntu installs them.
[02:55] <morgWork> hey guys
[02:55] <Godsey> you should probably remove or rename it after done so other packages don't get confused
[02:55] <Jowi> phEight, and you probably need to restart your network as well "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[02:55] <Godsey> a package that has ubuntu support might get fooled finding that build link and use redhatisms
[02:55] <tommyv> kenthomson: i got this error: mount -t iso -o loop /path/to/.iso /path/to/mountpoint
[02:55] <janez> Godsey ah, OK. And how is this done?
[02:55] <tommyv> kenthomson: i got this error: mount: unknown filesystem type 'iso'
[02:56] <kenthomson> tommyv, thats the command
[02:56] <kenthomson> tommyv, paste the command you issued
[02:56] <IntuitiveNipple> sunnz2: I think Google will be your friend on this
[02:56] <[4vn] ThienMa> errr, where r u guys from ?
[02:56] <Godsey> janez: cd /lib/modules/kernel
[02:56] <Godsey> mv build build.redhat_link
[02:56] <morgWork> when configuring a static IP, which config should store the route information? the interfaces manpage doesn't mention it
[02:56] <[4vn] ThienMa> the bisggest chnnel on this server
[02:56] <tommyv> kenthomson: tommyv@downstairsdesktop:~$ sudo mount -t iso -o loop ~/boratdvd.iso /mnt/isodvd
[02:56] <Godsey> then if you ever need it again, mv build.redhat_link build
[02:56] <kenthomson> IntuitiveNipple, pointing people at google is against the channel rules:(
[02:56] <IntuitiveNipple> sod that!
[02:57] <Jaak_> Can the automount not work because i skip the login screen?
[02:57] <kenthomson> tommyv, did you issue "sudo mkdir /mnt/isodvd" before that
[02:57] <IntuitiveNipple> You go where you can find solutions!
[02:57] <Mikey> IntuitiveNipple: yes i read the how to, im stuck where it doesnt dettect ra0
[02:57] <Godsey> kenthomson: altavista? :)
[02:57] <kenthomson> Godsey, nothing :)
[02:57] <janez> Godsey: OK thanks
[02:57] <IntuitiveNipple> Mikey: I can't help you on that, its not a chipset i've had to deal with
[02:57] <Godsey> janez: there is another way you can do it also
[02:57] <Godsey> instead of making a link, you make a directory w/ mkdir build
[02:57] <Mikey> ok, no probs IntuitiveNipple
[02:58] <Godsey> then mount -o bind /usr/src/linux-header-1.2.12 /lib/modules/1.2.12/build
[02:58] <ftwig> ime having a problem mounting a fat32 usb hard drive.  It is not mounted rwad-only (I have noe mount to verify this) but when I start trying to move files through gnome all the top level directories change to read only (lock icon appears).
[02:58] <tommyv> yes kenthomson
[02:58] <Godsey> you won't need that, it's just so you know there are other ways of doing something :)
[02:59] <kenthomson> tommyv, see this "sudo mkdir /media/iso"
[02:59] <amir__> Where can I get winetools?
[02:59] <kenthomson> tommyv, "sudo modprobe loop"
[02:59] <kenthomson> tommyv, "sudo mount file.iso /media/iso/ -t iso9660 -o loop"
[03:00] <kenthomson> tommyv, to unmount "sudo umount /media/iso/"
[03:00] <kenthomson> tommyv, thats it
[03:00] <IntuitiveNipple> ooo! I've found a bug with a dependency in Synaptic - where do I report that? As a bug on launchpad?
[03:00] <tommyv> thanks kenthomson
[03:01] <kenthomson> tommyv, happy to be of service :) HAPPY UBUNTU-ing
[03:01] <enry183> Who know how burd video-dvd????
[03:01] <varsendaggr> hey i am using horay...  if i go into recovery mode i can run gdm...    otherwise it sais xserver is not configured correctly
[03:01] <enry183> Who know how burn video-dvd???
[03:01] <mrstocks> enry183 please do not repeat
[03:02] <mrstocks> enry183 and i think just about everyone knows, that is your question
[03:02] <kenthomson> enry183, issue this at the terminal "sudo apt-get install gnomebaker"
[03:02] <janez> Godsey, sorry for late response, and thank you again. It's good to konow :)
[03:02] <varsendaggr> i have tried to dpkg reconfigure....   i am thinking that i have a bad module or something like that...    how do i find that out
[03:02] <kenthomson> enry183, than go to "Applications -> Sound & Video -> GnomeBaker" and use that cd/dvd burning program just like anything else
[03:02] <varsendaggr> anyideas?
[03:03] <enry183> i use k3b
[03:03] <enry183> and there isn't video-dvd option
[03:03] <Jaak_> Can anyone tell me why automount doesn't work if i let ubu login automaticly?
[03:03] <kenthomson> enry183, that';s why i suggested something else :)
[03:03] <kanzie> GARRGH!!! Now my X wont start after trying to install ntfs-3g, I get a blue screen with a notification that there is something wrong... please... anyone with a spare minute and good knowledge in X?
[03:03] <LjL> varsendaggr: look at what /var/log/Xorg.0.log has to say
[03:04] <LjL> blue screen?
[03:04] <enry183> i'm intalling i hope that gnome.. is better
[03:04] <jessid> hello firends...I have a doubt: if I want to record some sound using microphone and I can hear what I say in the speakers when I talk, why is it that I cat record it? Some of you have any idea?
[03:04] <kenthomson> LjL, kanzie, a BSoD in Linux, OMG! Is BSD a safe option against this savage?
[03:04] <Godsey> LjL: maybe ntfs-3g brings more of the Windows experiance than just the fs!
[03:04] <kenthomson> Godsey, :)
[03:04] <LjL> i hope not =)
[03:04] <varsendaggr> what is acpi?
[03:05] <kenthomson> Godsey, it's a virtual BSoD emulator
[03:05] <Tamacracka> Does anyone know anything linux headers?
[03:05] <Godsey> I'd start worrying if it randomly spits out IRQ_NOT_LESS_THAN_EQUAL, that's evil juju
[03:06] <Tamacracka> I'm tryin to install one.. but I dunno which to pick and how to install it.
[03:06] <kanzie> ok, I have the filesystem mounted read-only and cant make the necessary changes to fstab to correct my problem...how to I resolve this?
[03:06] <ftwig> ime having a problem mounting a fat32 usb hard drive.  It is not mounted rwad-only (I have noe mount to verify this) but when I start trying to move files through gnome all the top level directories change to read only (lock icon appears).
[03:06] <Godsey> does apt keep a log of when packages were installed?
[03:07] <varsendaggr> LjL, the only thing i can see is the fonts are deleted...   how do i get them back?
[03:07] <Godsey> I had to install gcc and friends to build vmware tools, but would like to remove them now.
[03:07] <Pensacola> has anybody managed to get openraider running on ubuntu?
[03:07] <Jowi> varsendaggr, A dvanced C onfiguration and P ower I nterface
[03:07] <Godsey> save me from doing another install for the "template" machine
[03:07] <varsendaggr> ohh    and apm failed
[03:07] <Bottazzo> The alternate install CD allows you to perform certain specialist installations of Ubuntu. It provides for the following situations:
[03:07] <Bottazzo>     * creating pre-configured OEM systems;
[03:07] <Bottazzo>     * setting up automated deployments;
[03:07] <Bottazzo>     * upgrading from older installations without network access;
[03:07] <Bottazzo>     * LVM and/or RAID partitioning;
[03:07] <Bottazzo>     * installing GRUB to a location other than the Master Boot Record;
[03:07] <Bottazzo>     * installs on systems with less than about 192MB of RAM.
[03:07] <Mikey> IntuitiveNipple: ive run the ubuntu setup again, and it doesnt detect my card. yet i know it is detected in windows
[03:07] <kleinlappies> my window borders don't load. what service is it that does not start-up?
[03:07] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Bottazzo about paste | Bottazzo, see the private message from Ubotu
[03:08] <LjL> varsendaggr: uhm, in more recent versions, installing xorg or x-window-system would probably do the trick... in hoary, i'm not sure either is there. perhaps x-window-system-core is there
[03:08] <LjL> !info x-window-system-core hoary
[03:08] <ubotu> x-window-system-core: transitional package for Debian etch. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 44 kB
[03:08] <varsendaggr> great
[03:09] <OrTigaS> hi just installed 6.10.. my resolution just only 1024x768 60.... how can i adjust to higher resolution?
[03:09] <Godsey> dpkg.log!
[03:10] <varsendaggr> i think the problem has somehting to do with
[03:10] <varsendaggr> open Apm Failed
[03:10] <jrib> OrTigaS: are there no more options in system > preferences > display properties?
[03:10] <stefg> !fixres | OrTigaS
[03:10] <ubotu> OrTigaS: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:10] <enry183> knthomson : i install it and now?
[03:10] <jrib> OrTigaS: scratch that, it's called "screen resolution" instead of "display properties"
[03:11] <OrTigaS> no more
[03:11] <jrib> !fixres | OrTigaS
[03:11] <ubotu> OrTigaS: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:11] <enry183> kenthompson
[03:13] <jessid> hello...if I want to use microphone to record some sounds, some of you have any idea why cant I record it, using a program like audacity, even if i can hear what i say in the speakers?
[03:13] <LjL> jessid: because you have the microphone muted for recording. check your mixer
[03:14] <LjL> jessid: enable the checkmark for the microphone, and perhaps you also need to enable and/or set a "Capture" slider or similar
[03:15] <pietro_> were is the server to italian?
[03:15] <stefg> !it
[03:15] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:15] <riaal_> Just installed wavemon and having problem starting it from the terminal, is there som graphic link I can try?
[03:15] <pietro_> tank you
[03:15] <varsendaggr> does anyone know how to install the dev/apm_bios?
[03:15] <sandro__> hi
[03:16] <sandro__> i'm sorry, how could i recover my lost password form the evolution saves?
[03:16] <riaal_> anyone use wavemon?
[03:16] <sandro__> i have the password of the email saved in evolution but i could non remember them, how could i recover it?
[03:16] <jessid> LjL where am I suposed to do that? in alsamixer?
[03:17] <LjL> jessid: in any mixer... yes, alsamixer will do, but the GNOME mixer will do as well. i use the KDE mixer myself
[03:18] <OrTigaS> :(
[03:18] <jessid> LjL give me a second i look for this GNOME mixer
[03:18] <OrTigaS> it show me black screen
[03:19] <LjL> jessid, it's the speaker icon in your tray
[03:19] <jessid> LjL does it come installed as default?
[03:19] <LjL> jessid, double click or right click or something on it
[03:19] <Thug-N-Me> hi all
[03:20] <sandro__> it's very important, how coul i get my email account password i have it saved on the evolution config i think, what is the method to get it back?
[03:20] <Thug-N-Me> would it be possible to associate firefox protocol dchub with any file share utility ? like linuxdc++ ?
[03:22] <Thug-N-Me> same as firefox can handle irc protocols and they will be opened with xchat
[03:22] <jessid> LjL this one has not many options...i have enabled the mic...I can hear it, but cant record
[03:23] <LjL> jessid: paste the output of typing "amixer" to the pastebin, i might be able to find it perhaps
[03:24] <LoRez> how does one get gnome-terminal to send meta keys properly
[03:26] <jrib> Thug-N-Me: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Register_protocol
[03:26] <Scooter7> Hey all, I have a question.
[03:26] <LjL> !ask
[03:26] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:26] <Scooter7> alright :P
[03:26] <Scooter7> well
[03:27] <qingting> Anyone here know how to get Yahoo MEssenger on your Ubuntu machine?  i have been trying for a long time and i cant ~
[03:27] <Scooter7> Can I order the server version of Ubuntu via the free shipit?
[03:27] <LjL> Scooter7: i don't think
[03:27] <Scooter7> @ quingting I think GAIM supports that, but not sure...
[03:27] <LjL> only the Desktop CD of Dapper is shipped AFAIK
[03:28] <Hmmmm> hey guys, i just insatlled edgy eft and now i my keyboard doesnt work right in vim
[03:28] <jhaig> qingting: I don't know, but the best way is probably to download it from Yahoo.  Have you tried Gaim instead?
[03:28] <cstyve2> Scooter7:as far as I know the CD's that are shipped contain both the desktop and server version.  You can select what type of install you need
[03:28] <amir__> linux x86 or linux x86_64 ?
[03:28] <qingting> im using gaim right now but i dont like it ~ it cant do webcam  ~ thts that i use to keep in touch with my family ~
[03:28] <jhaig> Hmmmm: In what way?  You may need to unset vi compatibility.
[03:29] <LjL> cstyve2: you sure? my shipped Dapper CDs are just the Desktop CD, and i don't think it's got an option for server installs
[03:29] <qingting> i have DL it from the website but it dont work  ~ is there anyway i can get it from within terminal ?
[03:29] <Hmmmm> jhaig, i installed with india as the location
[03:29] <Hmmmm> i think it may be something to do with my locale
[03:29] <Thug-N-Me> jrib thanks
[03:29] <wepeel> hi all. I can't get pdf files to open in firefox. anyone know how to resolve this?
[03:30] <Scooter7> hmm... well, thanks.   A friend of mine has Ubuntu, I'll see if his diskcame with the server version...
[03:30] <I-kido> wepeel try sudo apt-get install acroread
[03:30] <qingting> anyone ~ need help with Yahoo messenger ~~~
[03:30] <jhaig> Hmmmm: OK.  I've had problems vi until I realised that it had vi compatible mode set by default, which means that the arrow keys don't work properly.
[03:31] <jrib> jhaig: you should consider installing vim-full
[03:31] <cstyve2> LjL: Not postive but if memory serves me correctly you should be able to select type of install when you wish to install.  I was playing around with quite a few distro's and this option may be from one of the others.
[03:31] <wepeel> I-kido: hmm, I thought I had it installed...let me check
[03:31] <I-kido> wepeel also try sudo apt-get install mozilla-acroread
[03:32] <jhaig> jrib: I just changed the config.
[03:32] <Hmmmm> jhaig, how do i unset it?
[03:32] <wepeel> I-kido: the mozilla-acroread was the first thing I tried, but it wanted to remove mozplugger...that seems like a bad idea to me
[03:32] <Pri> Hello. Presently I have a 80G HDD; two partitions, one with Ubuntu and another with Windows XP. The GRUB worked fine, until, all of a sudden it threw the error message: GRUB loading stage1.5. > GRUB loading... > Error 17. Now I have googled this; error 17 says that GRUB can't recognize the filesystem. But, why all of a sudden? Any clues?
[03:32] <LjL> cstyve2: you sure you aren't just confusing it with the Alternate CD -- that is the text-mode one? alternate *does* give you that choice
[03:32] <Hmmmm> jhaig, u described the problem correctly
[03:32] <jessid> LjL this is the output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/947/  it am grateful with you
[03:32] <I-kido> wepeel i got the pdf extention for firefor
[03:32] <jrib> jhaig: oh I didn't realize Hmmmm was a name, thought that was just a question :)
[03:33] <jhaig> Hmmmm: Put "set nocompatible" in the ~/.vimrc file.
[03:33] <mena> hello friends
[03:33] <Hmmmm> jhaig, cool, thanks
[03:33] <qingting> mena hello
[03:33] <wepeel> I-kido: Oh, that would be ok too. I didn't think of looking for an extension
[03:33] <jhaig> Hmmmm: You can do it from inside vim with ":set nocompatible"
[03:33] <mena> is there a temp folder folder in ubunutu wich slow down the computer
[03:33] <mena> hi
[03:33] <mena> qingting, hi
[03:33] <lupine_85> mena: wha?
[03:34] <I-kido> wepeel: it's a handy extention :)
[03:34] <qingting> hihi
[03:34] <mena> lupine_85, temporoy folder
[03:34] <lupine_85>  /tmop
[03:34] <lupine_85> erm, /tmp
[03:34] <jrib> Hmmmm: so you know, the default vi in edgy is vim-tiny which doesn't have all the features of vim-full
[03:34] <wepeel> I-kido: pdfs aren't working in mozilla either...but I'm loathe to remove mozplugger as it's what makes mp[layer etc work
[03:34] <lupine_85> just, erm, don't go deleting stuff in ity
[03:34] <Hmmmm> jrib, ic
[03:35] <kurei> hi, how do i create cd covers in ubuntu? does anyone know a good cd cover creator?
[03:35] <I-kido> thats shoul be no prob wepeel, try the link i give u
[03:35] <Pri> Anyone has any advice maybe?
[03:35] <I-kido> https://addons.mozilla.org/search.php?q=pdf&type=E&app=firefox
[03:35] <Hmmmm> jhaig, thanks, it works
[03:35] <LjL> jessid: "Simple mixer control 'Capture',0" says "off" and 0% level. try "amixer set Capture cap" and also "amixer set Capture 100%"
[03:35] <mena> lupine_85, never mind
[03:35] <jhaig> Hmmmm: :-)
[03:35] <wepeel> I-kido: thanks !
[03:36] <I-kido> wepeel yw :P
[03:36] <heatxsink> anyone know if there's a version of beryl for dapper?
[03:36] <LjL> jessid: (the same should be available in the GNOME version of the mixer, though. i don't really know what it looks like - but if it has a "Recording" tab or something like that, it's probably there)
[03:36] <LjL> Ubotu, tell heatxsink about beryl | heatxsink, see the private message from Ubotu
[03:36] <lupine_85> no official support
[03:36] <lupine_85> (from beryl or ubuntu :) )
[03:36] <lupine_85> repos - at least for i386 - are floating around, though
[03:36] <heatxsink> ahh
[03:36] <heatxsink> gotcha
[03:36] <heatxsink> lupine_85: thanks
[03:37] <Perham> hello everybody
[03:37] <I-kido> hello Perham
[03:37] <Pri> Hello. Presently I have a 80G HDD; two partitions, one with Ubuntu and another with Windows XP. The GRUB worked fine, until, all of a sudden it threw the error message: GRUB loading stage1.5. > GRUB loading... > Error 17. Now I have googled this; error 17 says that GRUB can't recognize the filesystem. But, why all of a sudden? Any clues? Sorry for repeating.
[03:37] <Perham> how can i disable disk check at startup of ubuntu?
[03:37] <jessid> LjL ok, thanks again i will do what you told me....
[03:38] <jrib> !fsck | Perham
[03:38] <ubotu> Perham: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[03:38] <baK\G> hey, i have one question. i'v just installed ubuntu and i dont know if its ok or not, but in my information about installed hardware there are no information about my cpu, motherboard, just nothing.
[03:38] <Perham> it runs everytime that ubuntu starts
[03:39] <Perham> i want to remove it completly
[03:39] <LjL> Perham: yes, it does, but if your filesystem is clean, it should just quit very shortly
[03:39] <Perham> i have a 250 GB harddisk and 19 partitions
[03:39] <Hmmmm> im looking to setup a server for a soho dev environment. anyone know of a guide on how to do that?
[03:39] <jessid> LjL man you are God in this things...it is working now!!!! thanks!!!!
[03:39] <Perham> and 10 of them are fat32 and 1 ntfs
[03:39] <Hmmmm> i want svn, lamp, bug tracking, dns...
[03:39] <Fubarovic> 19 partitions?
[03:39] <Fubarovic> :D
[03:40] <LjL> Perham: that's a bad idea imho, but "man tune2fs"
[03:40] <Hmmmm> baK\G, is eeverything working fine?
[03:40] <Hmmmm> baK\G, are you logged on to the web using that machine?
[03:40] <houman> hi there, does anyone know how to prevent freenx to start all the startup programs everytime you connect?
[03:40] <Perham> i have mandriva one, parsix, freespire, ubuntu and noone of thems checks except ubuntu
[03:41] <Perham> none of them*
[03:41] <LjL> Perham: they do
[03:41] <baK\G> Hmmmm no im inhere from the windows, but that only coz i have usb adsl modem, but i'll make it work later.... and my system workin well, no errors or something
[03:41] <LjL> all of them
[03:42] <kanzie> Is there any specific drivers for Apple Cinema Screens to install or should I go with the generic?
[03:42] <Perham> so why do ubuntu takes so much more time than others? about 5 minute or more!
[03:42] <baK\G> just there is no any information about cpu motherboard, videocard
[03:42] <jrib> Perham: you can tell it not to check ever in fstab, but I agree with ljl about it being a bad idea
[03:42] <Hmmmm> baK\G, okay. well if its working fine, then no need to really worry. btw where did you look for the hardware info?
[03:42] <LjL> Perham: basically, if you turn off your machine cleanly, fsck doesn't run or just run briefly just to see the filesystem isn't dirty. but every 30 mounts or so, an fsck will be forced. if that's not what is happening for you, there's something wrong.
[03:42] <Perham> in /etc/fstab?
[03:42] <Perham> what should i change there?
[03:42] <Hmmmm> baK\G, did you try Systen -> Admin -> Device manager ?
[03:43] <jrib> Perham: man fstab  explains.  I forget which field it is
[03:43] <baK\G> Hmmmm yeah exactly
[03:43] <LjL> the last, i think. not entirely sure
[03:43] <LjL> !fstab
[03:43] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[03:43] <baK\G> Hmmmm i can see 2 my lan cards, modem etc... but no info about anything else.... all fields are just full of unknown unkown unkown unkown unkown
[03:44] <Hmmmm> baK\G, and you don't see the necessary info, eh!
[03:44] <Perham> i think the problem is that ubuntu is checking fat32 drives too.
[03:44] <LjL> though "man tune2fs" does give an explanation, in the first paragraph, of why it's totally not recommended
[03:44] <Perham> it's not neccesary
[03:44] <LjL> Perham: that's more likely.
[03:44] <Hmmmm> baK\G, try this in the command line: "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[03:45] <LjL> Perham: if you don't have very sensitive data on the FAT32 filesystems (and you shouldn't anyway ;), and don't write to them often from inside Ubuntu, i think you really can just set those to 0 in fstab
[03:45] <Hmmmm> baK\G, what's you CPU btw?
[03:45] <baK\G> amd athlon xp 1500+
[03:45] <baK\G> that old one
[03:45] <Hmmmm> baK\G, no reason why it shudnt display.... kinda weird
[03:45] <baK\G> maybe ubuntu doesnt support it or something ?
[03:45] <LjL> Perham: also, if dosfsck is detecting "difference between the boot sector and its backup" (try booting without the "quiet" option and the "splash" option to see), that'll slow things down, and it's a problem i've seen a couple of times
[03:46] <Perham> actuaally i'm using 200gb of my hard drive on my fat32 partitions, and it's like a storage space for me.
[03:46] <Perham> ljl: yes, it is that.
[03:46] <baK\G> just im new to linux, and just didnt know if its ok or not.... evrything works ok and i dont think i could make any mistakes during instalation
[03:47] <LjL> Perham: well that should be fixable by doing, if i recall correctly, "dosfsck -ar /dev/the-affected-partition", and then selecting the option to overwrite the backup using the original (option 1 i think). let me check
[03:47] <Perham> i got that problem on all of my fat32 drives
[03:48] <Hmmmm> baK\G, its hard to make mistakes while installing ubuntu
[03:48] <Perham> my windows drive is ntfs, doesn't it make any difference?
[03:48] <baK\G> yes :)
[03:48] <Hmmmm> baK\G, i have an army of amd-ubuntu machines. it supports it well
[03:49] <Hmmmm> baK\G, i just checked, even i get unknown, it just dosnt display it right
[03:49] <LjL> Perham: then do it for all of them. or disable the check in fstab, if you really don't care at all about them being checked when not cleanly unmounted. i'm not really sure what that bootsector mismatch thing actually *means*, though, and why it's so common
[03:49] <LjL> there should be a report filed against that
[03:49] <baK\G> ahhhh... okay then
[03:49] <Hmmmm> baK\G, try running the procinfo command i showed u earlier, for ur satisfation
[03:50] <Perham> dosfsck -ar /dev/the-affected-partition this is the solve?
[03:50] <Perham> ok, i'm on it
[03:50] <baK\G> Hmmmm okay man, tnx 10000x
[03:50] <Perham> bye for now, i've got to restart in ubuntu.
[03:50] <archangelpetro> does anyone here use a 32bit version of firefox on amd64 and keep getting crashes with the sound to videos like on youtube?
[03:51] <Hmmmm> baK\G, cheers maan
[03:51] <Hmmmm> archangelpetro, i am using 32 bit ffox on ubuntu
[03:51] <Hmmmm> but my ubuntu itself is 32bit
[03:51] <Hmmmm> archangelpetro, no probs with utub
[03:51] <webben> what's the correct way to flush the dns cache on ubuntu?
[03:52] <archangelpetro> god damn it's irritating..
[03:52] <jessid> good bye to everybody....thank God a place like this and people like you exist!!! Good luck
[03:52] <archangelpetro> every time there seems to be a lag spike..
[03:52] <IntuitiveNipple> archangelpetro: I read about that issue with the flash player last night - i think the solution was to increase the Firefox cache size from 50 to 100MB
[03:52] <archangelpetro> my audio messes up and just halts continuously playing.
[03:52] <archangelpetro> kk
[03:52] <IntuitiveNipple> archangelpetro: There were some other solutions too, so i recommend a good googling on the ubuntu forums
[03:53] <archangelpetro> do u not have the website?
[03:53] <cup_ramen> Hello room - how do I find out which of the following I run?
[03:53] <cup_ramen> Linux RPM
[03:53] <cup_ramen> Linux
[03:53] <cup_ramen> Linux x64
[03:53] <cup_ramen> Linux x64 RPM
[03:53] <varsendaggr> hey i have dapper live cd running on my computer  is there a way to install dapper from the command line?
[03:54] <varsendaggr> ( my computer is pretty slow
[03:55] <mena> if i install win that men i can install mas live messanger right
[03:55] <mena> wine
[03:55] <jrib> varsendaggr: use the alternate cd
[03:56] <lunaphyte_> do i understand correctly that /boot cannot live on an lvm device?
[03:56] <jrib> !alternate | varsendaggr
[03:56] <ubotu> varsendaggr: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[03:58] <viller> how to use the ftp command?
[03:58] <Perham> !Partitions
[03:58] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[03:58] <pluffsy> I'm trying to compare a new version of a php-script that I have locally on my machine and an older version of the script from my server but when I try to run diff on the files I just get the whole two files listed after each other, like no lines would be the same, but probably 90-95% of the files are the same. I've tried to change the encoding on the files with  no result. What else could be wrong?
[03:58] <Perham> !fstab
[03:58] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[03:59] <jrib> viller: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/FTP.html  also see 'man ftp'
[03:59] <Dandre> Hello,
[03:59] <mrbayHU> hey
[04:00] <J-K> what is captive-ntfs?
[04:00] <Dandre> I just have upgraded my system and now when I run vnc, I get this error:
[04:00] <esaym> anybody know off hand how to back up my settings and download queue in linuxdcpp?
[04:00] <mrbayHU> can anyone help me? what can i do if i have two packages that depends on each other, so i cant install them?
[04:00] <Dandre>  The program 'gnome-session' received an X Window System error.
[04:00] <Dandre> This probably reflects a bug in the program.
[04:00] <Dandre> The error was 'BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)'.
[04:00] <jrib> mrbayHU: what packages?
[04:00] <mrbayHU> courier-authdaemon and courier-authlib
[04:00] <finalbeta> !paste
[04:01] <ubotu> paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[04:01] <mrbayHU> i tried to upgrade, and than it stopped because of it
[04:01] <Dandre> How should I fix this?
[04:01] <LjL> mrbayHU: known bug
[04:01] <J-K> why cant i upgrade in vmware?
[04:02] <mrbayHU> and u think that im out of trouble now?:P
[04:02] <cup_ramen> ubotu, your answer wasn't about my problem, right? (just in case i got something wrong)
[04:02] <J-K> and how can i acces my external ntsf disc in ubuntu 6.06
[04:02] <jrib> !ntfs | J-K
[04:02] <ubotu> J-K: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:03] <LjL> mrbayHU: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/64615
[04:03] <J-K> !ntsf
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntsf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <mrbayHU> thanks
[04:04] <LjL> J-K, while i know of NTFS, i don't know of a filesystem called NTSF
[04:04] <livingdaylight> Hola Ubunteros!!!
[04:04] <cup_ramen> bye everyone
[04:04] <livingdaylight> bye cup_ramen
[04:04] <J-K> LjL lol? i assume you know what i mean
[04:05] <LjL> J-K: err, i *think* you mean NTFS... but you *have* been given a pointer about that
[04:05] <livingdaylight> anyone here familiar with the application - gThumb 2.7.9 ???
[04:06] <intercoo1> I currently considering installing ubuntu system wide on all laptops in one department of the firm i work for.  But i really need two thing easy to setup disk encryption and a gnome iptables firewall frontend. Anyone know where to start ?
[04:06] <jrib> !firestarter | intercoo1
[04:06] <ubotu> intercoo1: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[04:06] <intercoo1> how about disk encryption ?
[04:06] <Dandre> I have upgraded my system and vnc doesn't launch gnome-session anymore. What should I do?
[04:07] <Dimensions> hi ... i wanna install abt 40 units with ubuntu on MAC mini ... is there any quickest way to do it ???
[04:07] <LjL> intercoo1: there are some howtos on the wiki, but i'm not sure any of them would classify as "easy"
[04:07] <Toma-> !oem
[04:07] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[04:07] <intercoo1> LjL: okay, dont mind easy, but if its stable and works good i can go with that :)
[04:08] <brainiac> can anyone help me with some links on how to install gossip telepathy branch in edgy?
[04:08] <Dimensions> Toma- which one would be used for quick installation i mean like ghost disk or something ?
[04:08] <syllogism> hey guys - does anyone in here have experience with using a cell phone to connect to the internet?
[04:08] <Dimensions> syllogism i do ...
[04:08] <Dimensions> its called GPRS syllogism
[04:08] <Toma-> Dimensions: look at the first link under Advanced...
[04:09] <syllogism> Dimensions: I'm trying to find out if there's a way to reduce the latency on my connection if it's possible. . do you know if that's possible somehow?
[04:09] <Toma-> Dimensions: iirc, there is a way to install really quick.
[04:09] <archangelpetro> IntuitiveNipple, i keep getting things for 'firefox' crashing.. but it's just the player inside it that's messing up.. the sound keeps fucking up on it
[04:09] <syllogism> I usually average about 400ms round-trip
[04:10] <LjL> intercoo1: i cannot guarantee anything, i haven't tried. there is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowtoEdgy but i suggest you also type "filesystem encrypt site:help.ubuntu.com" into google
[04:10] <Dimensions> Toma- whats iirc ?
[04:10] <LjL> !language | archangelpetro
[04:10] <ubotu> archangelpetro: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:10] <finalbeta> The images nautilus uses to represent folders and files, where are they located? I wish to ehm, borrow them.
[04:10] <LjL> Dimensions: if i recall correctly
[04:10] <Toma-> if i remember correctly
[04:10] <eilker> !sort
[04:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sort - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:10] <livingdaylight> anyone here familiar with the application - gThumb 2.7.9 ??
[04:10] <Hmmmm> i want to setup a bugtracking system on my ubuntu server. anyone got a suggestion as to which one i should pick?
[04:10] <Hmmmm> livingdaylight, gthumb, the image viwever?
[04:11] <livingdaylight> Hmmmm, yes!
[04:11] <Hmmmm> livingdaylight, wat about it?
[04:11] <livingdaylight> Hmmmm, when i plug my gigital camera
[04:11] <livingdaylight> it opens by default to view which is fine ,but...
[04:11] <Toma-> Dimensions: at the install screen, type oem and press enter...
[04:11] <Toma-> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/11/ubuntu-oem-mode/
[04:12] <jrib> finalbeta: they are in your current icon theme
[04:12] <Toma-> if thats what youre after?
[04:12] <livingdaylight> Hmmmm, i created a catalogue to save my pictures and i see them b ut the minute i unplug my camera from the pc they are not therer any more?
[04:12] <bokey> livingdaylight, digital camera
[04:12] <bokey> livingdaylight, use f-spot.
[04:12] <livingdaylight> bokey, sorry, yes...Digital
[04:12] <Li`lEndian> Hi, how do i get that canonicalname configured? i've signed up with a free dns server. but what exactly is the clause i have to use in apache.conf in order to point to that URL?
[04:12] <bokey> livingdaylight, :)
[04:12] <finalbeta> jrib, any idea where that would be? I'm not really familiar yet with the file  structure debian uses.
[04:12] <Hmmmm> livingdaylight, ic
[04:12] <livingdaylight> bokey, but the other viewer comes up by defualt?
[04:13] <livingdaylight> bokey, default
[04:13] <Dimensions> Toma- oem is which is preinstalled from manufacturer ...
[04:13] <bokey> livingdaylight, there are so many reasons things can get screwed.
[04:13] <Hmmmm> livingdaylight, have u tried fspot?
[04:13] <jrib> finalbeta: depends on your current theme.  default ones are in /usr/share/icons, and anything you installed is in ~/.icons/
[04:13] <bokey> Hmmmm, f-spot :)
[04:13] <finalbeta> jrib, thnx
[04:13] <livingdaylight> Hmmmm, yes, why do you think it doesn't' save in the catalogue created. The created catalogue is still there but empty?
[04:13] <bokey> Hmmmm, f'-'spot.
[04:13] <Toma-> Dimensions: yeh.. so then you can hand out the MacMinis to the people to finalise?
[04:13] <Toma-> or you setting up anetwork?
[04:14] <livingdaylight> Hmmmm, like i told bokey this other one comes up by default. How can i set F-spot to come up when i plug my digital camera in by default?
[04:14] <Hmmmm> bokey, whats wrong wiht fspot?
[04:14] <bokey> Hmmmm, f'-'spot
[04:14] <Hmmmm> livingdaylight, actually i dont own a cam. i tried it once, and i think i used fspot, which worked just fine
[04:14] <bokey> !f-spot
[04:14] <ubotu> f-spot: personal photo management application. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.1-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 573 kB, installed size 3396 kB
[04:15] <livingdaylight> Hmmmm, bokey is very hot on the spelling, you gotta watch it with him :D
[04:15] <Hmmmm> livingdaylight, heeh!
[04:15] <livingdaylight> bokey, i know F-spot but how do i set it default?
[04:15] <Hmmmm> livingdaylight, i thought he wanted to emphasise on the F word
[04:16] <livingdaylight> Hmmmm, he just wants the - and dots and crossed immaculate ;)
[04:16] <Dimensions> Toma- ... well i want to do complete installation ... on Macs ... and it will be used by us  only ...
[04:16] <Toma-> Dimensions: ahh ok
[04:17] <Toma-> Dimensions: id suggest using a netboot option then
[04:17] <ambimom> livingdaylight:  try the preferences in fspot itself
[04:17] <Toma-> that way you at least dont have to switch CDs
[04:17] <livingdaylight> Hmmmm, so do you know how to set F-spot up so ubuntu uses it by default when i plug my digital camera in?
[04:17] <Toma-> or even use rsync..
[04:17] <jrib> livingdaylight: system > preferences > removable drives and media
[04:17] <Hmmmm> livingdaylight, lemme hcekc and see
[04:18] <livingdaylight> ambimom, preferences in Fspot could overide on a system level whether it is used by defualt or not?
[04:18] <livingdaylight> jrib, let me check your hack out
[04:18] <jrib> hack?
[04:18] <ambimom> livingdaylight:  it should...just make fspot the default for certain media
[04:18] <brainiac> can anyone help me with some links on how to install gossip telepathy branch in edgy?
[04:18] <brainiac> a repo would be awsome
[04:19] <kenthomson> Can someone tell me what cient do i use on Linux to connect to GoogleTalk?
[04:19] <mena> HOW TO install files with extention packadge
[04:19] <aeromix> hi all... I want to read a file and assign every line of the file to an array like file[$line] ... any idea?
[04:19] <MarcN> kenthomson: gaim is good
[04:20] <kenthomson> MarcN, Does it talk to googleTalk?
[04:20] <livingdaylight> jrib, browsing for f-spt in usr/bin i see f-spot and f-spot import. Which one do you know?
[04:20] <Hmmmm> jrib, any idea on bug tracking software?
[04:20] <ambimom> googletalk does not talk in linux
[04:20] <MarcN> kenthomson: yes.  The key to remember is GoogleTalk uses the Jabber protocol.
[04:20] <keebus> hello
[04:20] <mena> jrib, hi
[04:20] <giokim> i upgraded from dapper drake to edgy eft and now my root password seems to changed, is their a default password?
[04:20] <kenthomson> MarcN, i am pretty new to LInux i don't even know what jabber is
[04:20] <jrib> Hmmmm: bugzilla, trac?
[04:20] <MarcN> kenthomson: google it
[04:20] <Toma-> Dimensions: heres a big tutorial on it. just amke sure youre using PPC repos and packages :D http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_pxe_install_server
[04:21] <ambimom> kenthomson:  use skype
[04:21] <teitunge> what do I do if I want the oldschool terminal-boot, instead of the ubuntulogo-splash-thing?
[04:21] <teitunge> where I can see which processes who starts up..
[04:21] <livingdaylight> ambimom, do you know whether i should choose fspot or fspot import - i'm browsing in usr/bin
[04:21] <Hmmmm> jrib, i was wondering if i could get an opinion on which one is good
[04:21] <kenthomson> MarcN, You mean to say that i can configure GAIM to use Google's servers for voice calls, right?
[04:21] <MarcN> kenthomson: not voice calls, just IMing
[04:22] <jrib> Hmmmm: I'm not really familiar with setting any up
[04:22] <livingdaylight> jrib, do you know?
[04:22] <jrib> livingdaylight: no, experiment
[04:22] <livingdaylight>  jrib, browsing for f-spt in usr/bin i see f-spot and f-spot import. Which one do you know?
[04:22] <livingdaylight> jrib, ok
[04:23] <Hmmmm> jrib, okay thanks
[04:23] <jpass> does anyone multi track record audio with Ubuntu?
[04:23] <kenthomson> MarcN, i am talking about a client to use Google's service for voice calls
[04:24] <jrib> livingdaylight: google helped me: http://www.skarulis.com/?p=34
[04:25] <jrib> mena: hello
[04:25] <livingdaylight> jrib, ok, thx i'll check it out. so far 'experimenting' f spot was forced to quit and i'm sending a bug report *phewee
[04:25] <Mikey> right. now my wireless card is recognised as ra0, but it wont connect
[04:25] <Mikey> and yes ive red numerous hot tos and stuff
[04:25] <MarcN> kenthomson: beats me, I don't use voip
[04:25] <mena> jrib, hi....i have a packadge file how to nstall it
[04:26] <jrib> mena: what package and where did you get it?
[04:26] <kenthomson> MarcN, you jumped unnecessarily onto my question and sort of hijacked it please refrain from doing so in the future, my question was very clear in the first place, and you have caused unnecessary headache to me :(
[04:26] <Mikey> when i try to ifup ra0 it says essid hostname lookup failure
[04:26] <MarcN> kenthomson: goodbye then.  Sheeh.
[04:26] <mena> jrib, its the amsn and it at desktop
[04:26] <kenthomson> HELP: What client do i use to connect to Google's servers (GoogleTalk), for making voice calls????
[04:27] <Dimensions> how long does it take to use a Ghost Cd for ubuntu installation ??? on a mac mini ??
[04:27] <jrib> !info amsn | mena
[04:27] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-2.1 (edgy), package size 2261 kB, installed size 7752 kB
[04:27] <jrib> mena: amsn is in the universe repository, you should install it using synaptic
[04:28] <lupine_85> kenthomson: http://www.google.com/talk/intl/en-GB/otherclients.html
[04:28] <lupine_85> sums it up quite well
[04:28] <kenthomson> lupine_85, :)
[04:28] <Jowi> Dimensions, what is a "ghost cd" for the mac mini. and is it the intel or ppc one you have?
[04:28] <mena> jrib, i know but its a new version and what is in the synaptic is old
[04:29] <kenthomson> lupine_85, there's no client for linux that allows for making calls to other google talk users :(
[04:29] <lupine_85> so there's your answer
[04:29] <Dimensions> Jowi i dont have any cd atm but i will make one ...
[04:29] <kenthomson> lupine_85, there's no client for linux that allows for making voice calls to yahoo users too, why are we a sidelined tribe? :(
[04:30] <Dimensions> Jowi its MAC Mini ...
[04:30] <lupine_85> because?
[04:30] <Mikey> kenthomson: get a Pee Cee =P
[04:30] <Jowi> Dimensions, yes. i know. i have a intel mac mini. is the the norton ghost image program you're talking about?
[04:30] <kenthomson> Mikch, i unfortunately didn't get the joke :(
[04:30] <kenthomson> lupine_85, ?
[04:30] <teitunge> where I can see which processes who starts up..
[04:30] <jrib> mena: what kind of file is it?  I'd recommend sticking with the repository version unless there is an actual new feature you need in the new one
[04:30] <kenthomson> Anyone ran Googletalk in wine???
[04:31] <teitunge> what do I do if I want the oldschool terminal-boot, instead of the ubuntulogo-splash-thing?
[04:31] <lupine_85> ask a silly question, get a silly answer ;)
[04:31] <jrib> kenthomson: check wine's app database
[04:31] <Dimensions> Jowi ... well i hav't used a ghost cd before i dont know which one .. but all i want to install on one mac mini and on rest 39 i use the same ghost image to do installation automatically ...
[04:31] <kenthomson> jrib, :)
[04:31] <kenthomson> lupine_85, :(
[04:31] <mena> jrib, its .packadge in any way okay your openion is ri
[04:32] <mena> right
[04:32] <Dimensions> Jowi and ppl use a ghost image on cd or something of One OS to install with the same configuration on other systems ...
[04:32] <lupine_85> why you can't just use SIP I don't know
[04:32] <Mikey> what is the command to scan all nearby routers?
[04:32] <lupine_85> Mikey: nmap
[04:32] <jrib> kenthomson: tapioca is somewhere in my mind, google that
[04:33] <Dimensions> Jowi ?? ane idea ?
[04:33] <kenthomson> jrib, ok
[04:33] <Mikey> lupine_85: where is that, is that in console?
[04:33] <mrbayHU> thanks for help, see you later
[04:33] <lupine_85> yes
[04:33] <kenthomson> lupine_85, it's difficult to ask windows users to connect to me using a special software, a SIP complaint one.
[04:33] <Mikey> lupine_85: because it says command not found
[04:33] <lupine_85> Mikey: install it
[04:33] <GreyGhost> how do i query which version of software apt is getting for me withouth downloading it?
[04:34] <GreyGhost> !apt-get
[04:34] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[04:34] <Jowi> Dimensions, ah ok. yes I have used norton ghost in the past but was not sure it was that you were referring to. I don't really know how long it could take.
[04:34] <lupine_85> kenthomson: a sip client is no less or more special than a yahoo client or a google or MSN one
[04:34] <Mikey> lupine_85: cant install it using atp-get, is it on ubuntu alt install CD? if it is, how do i install it?
[04:34] <bokey> lupine_85, how so ?
[04:34] <IceTox> something has made my cmoputer go very slow lately.. Is there any usual thing that does this to a computer, or do someone know how to search for what creates the problem? =)
[04:34] <kenthomson> lupine_85, but still they gottu to adopt a special software just to call to me?
[04:34] <lupine_85> !info nmap edgy
[04:34] <ubotu> nmap: The Network Mapper. In component main, is extra. Version 4.10-1 (edgy), package size 702 kB, installed size 2436 kB
[04:34] <lupine_85> Mikey: it's in main
[04:34] <Jowi> Dimensions, depends on the size of the ghost image i would say. now i have to run. bank closes in 25 min. and i have to visit two of them
[04:35] <mena> jrib, why when i install kubuntu its icones doesnt appear
[04:35] <Dimensions> okay Jowi thanks ... aneways ...
[04:35] <jrib> mena: no idea
[04:35] <lupine_85> kenthomson: so? they had to adapt to yahoo/google/msn when people first started using it, too
[04:35] <mena> jrib, ok
[04:35] <LjL> kenthomson: no. SIP is a standard protocol, most VoIP companies use it (or H323, though that's declining i think), the specs are open, and there is plenty of clients for just about any platform. "special software" is things like, say, Skype
[04:36] <Mikey> lupine_85: i still dont get you
[04:36] <jrib> kenthomson: this seems to confirm it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=246717
[04:37] <lupine_85> nmap is in the repositories
[04:37] <bokey> lupine_85, how is sip indifferent to msn/jabber/yahoo protocol ?
[04:37] <lupine_85> so install it
[04:37] <kenthomson> LjL, lupine_85, it's enough that RMS convinced me to switch to open standards/ free software, that i am going through the linux hell, i don't want to disturb the eutopian dream of other 'normal' windows users to convince any of them to use open standards (or for that matter anything unconventional), etc. Still there is the question of asking them to create a account with another software, and use it for JUST CALLING ME?
[04:37] <lupine_85> bokey: SIP is a different protocol
[04:37] <bokey> lupine_85, ok
[04:37] <lupine_85> kenthomson: well, whatever
[04:37] <kenthomson> Am i trolling again? Forgive me :(
[04:38] <bokey> kenthomson, forgiven. ;)
[04:38] <giokim> i upgraded from dapper drake to edgy eft and now my root password seems to changed. can anyone help?
[04:38] <lupine_85> if you use a platform unsupported by the majority of vendors, expect some hassle.
[04:39] <kenthomson> lupine_85, "some hassle" should be changed to "atrocious hassle"
[04:39] <lupine_85> if you like
[04:39] <carld> Why won't this sed line work?  The regex works with egrep as expected.   sed 's/<title\b[^>] *>(.*?)<\/title>/this is what I want it to say/g' index.html
[04:39] <LjL> kenthomson: well i already saw msn, jabber and yahoo mentioned (though not by you perhaps), so that already makes for 3 different clients that people end up using. will they mind a fourth? if they do, perhaps they don't really care that much about talking to you
[04:39] <Mercur> does anybody know any good webcam http server software?
[04:39] <LjL> !good
[04:39] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[04:39] <kenthomson> LjL, please don't start talking about subjective reality next :)
[04:40] <PoLL> hello there do you know what causes these symbols: function texture::mesh::mesh within texture
[04:40] <PoLL> uhh it works here ...
[04:40] <PoLL> strange
[04:40] <bokey> carld, '<\/title>'. what's that ?
[04:40] <kenthomson> LjL, i understand the point you are making, but still there is a feeling of me being sidelined, even by a company like Google which favours open standards
[04:41] <lupine_85> kenthomson: that's because you *are* being sidelined ;). Not much you can do about it except complain to the sideliners
[04:41] <morgWork> how do I tell which network localnet is referring to in route's output?
[04:41] <carld> bokey, the title tag, I escaped the / in title?  I also tried it with sed 's!<title\b[^>] *>(.*?)</title>!this is what I want it to say!g' index.html
[04:41] <LjL> kenthomson: i thought Google used the Jabber protocol for their IM stuff...?
[04:41] <jrib> carld: what does it do?
[04:41] <bokey> carld, no idea.
[04:41] <carld> jrib, hopefully I can run through my entire site dir and replace all of the title tages with something else
[04:42] <kenthomson> jrib, fine research if you could just teach me to effeciently search the forums, my agony would come to an end :(
[04:42] <kenthomson> LjL, you are right
[04:42] <morgWork> ah, /etc/networks
[04:42] <jrib> carld: I think the () may not work by default.  Try sed -r.  And I meant what is it doing now that is broken :)
[04:42] <kanzie> is the java JRE6 in the repos yet?
[04:42] <kenthomson> LjL, i am talking about calling users using the GoogleTalk client, they don't have a linux version for it
[04:42] <lupine_85> jrib: for voice they use XMPP I think
[04:42] <carld> jrib, it doesn't do anything, so I don't think it finds the string I am searching for
[04:42] <jrib> kenthomson: try chacha :)
[04:42] <LjL> kenthomson: well, Jabber at least is an open standard. it isn't SIP, but that's just because they're made for two quite different purposes (at least, VoIP and text IM seem to still be considered two quite separate things)
[04:43] <lupine_85> regardless, on /all/ platforms, the only available client is theirs
[04:43] <bokey> kenthomson, use jabber from gaim
[04:43] <jrib> kenthomson: you can search with a human guide
[04:43] <LjL> kenthomson, i think you can use any Jabber client to connect to the GoogleTalk network - that's why Jabber is an open standard
[04:43] <cas3> I thought you could use gaim with google talk
[04:43] <kenthomson> jrib, what is 'chacha'?
[04:43] <cas3> it's just jabber
[04:43] <lupine_85> you can. but not for voice.
[04:43] <jrib> kenthomson: http://www.chacha.com/
[04:43] <cas3> ah
[04:43] <kenthomson> bokey, i am talking about voice calls
[04:44] <jrib> carld: yeah, it's the ()
[04:44] <kenthomson> LjL, even for voice calls
[04:44] <LjL> lupine_85: what does it use for voice?
[04:44] <kenthomson> LjL, SIP
[04:44] <kenthomson> jrib, is that search engine any good?
[04:44] <Mikey> lupine_85: i cant find nmap, but i dont know if it will help me at all, i cant connect to my router with WPA, ive been through the HowTo
[04:44] <bokey> kenthomson, use gnome meeting.
[04:44] <carld> jrib, yep the -r fixed it...thanks!
[04:45] <LjL> kenthomson: uh... then we're still talking open standards :P so the question would be, is there a linux client that supports Jabber *and* SIP together, i suppose
[04:45] <cas3> SIP ? really? Could you use ekiga with your google talk sip address
[04:45] <brainiac> can anyone help me with some links on how to install gossip telepathy branch in ubuntu edgy eft? ... a repo would be awsome too...
[04:45] <Skyrail> I'm having a few problems: My login screen shows black but I can still login, everything else on the PC bar the next few problems is ok. I keep on getting an error box about not being able to initialize HAL and quite frequently I get errors about something about Gnome Themes and window settings can not be loaded or something...
[04:45] <kenthomson> LjL, there is...openwengo
[04:45] <kenthomson> bokey, let me check that
[04:45] <ArS3n1c0_W0rK> hi
[04:45] <lupine_85> LjL: it's not SIP, it's XMPP
[04:46] <jrib> kenthomson: I don't really use it, but having the human guide there just seemed like a nice feature and you said you wanted help searching the forums :)
[04:46] <lupine_85> http://www.google.com/talk/intl/en-GB/developer.html#service_2
[04:46] <kenthomson> jrib, ok
[04:46] <lupine_85> They "plan to support SIP"
[04:46] <IceTox> something has made my cmoputer go very slow lately.. Is there any usual thing that does this to a computer, or do someone know how to search for what creates the problem? =)
[04:46] <ArS3n1c0_W0rK> i would to remove ubuntu and the booscreen... what can i do?
[04:46] <kenthomson> lupine_85, i still gottu to check that link to belive it
[04:46] <lupine_85> suit yourself
[04:46] <xeno_> !system browser
[04:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about system browser - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:47] <lupine_85> it's a whole click away ;)
[04:47] <Slart> ArS3n1c0_W0rK: run the live cd and remove the partition?
[04:47] <riaal_> how do I see my mac address?
[04:47] <lupine_85> "We look forward to the Google Talk client supporting Linux and Mac OSX in the future."
[04:47] <cens0red> hey should Xorg be eating up 50% of CPU ?
[04:47] <Slart> ArS3n1c0_W0rK: I don't know if there is a special uninstall option
[04:47] <ArS3n1c0_W0rK> slart --> :(
[04:48] <Godsey> I changed my nic, the new one is being detected as eth1
[04:48] <Godsey> where does udev keep device names between boots?
[04:48] <kenthomson> lupine_85, you are right :-|
[04:48] <Godsey> I want to force it to eth0
[04:48] <Slart> cens0red: mine isn't =)..using a dual core cpu?
[04:48] <petezzz> Problem in setting up Evolution for Maildir folder - directory selection widgets broken - anyone know workaround ? (Evolution 2.8 on Edgy)  ?
[04:48] <g333k_work> Hi, how can I download a html page to a pdf file? lets say this how-to: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Alsa-sound.html
[04:48] <lupine_85> of course :p
[04:48] <ArS3n1c0_W0rK> slart, how i can make?
[04:48] <lupine_85> and there's no reason you couldn't have found that information yourseldf
[04:48] <riaal_> pleas? how do I check my mac address?
[04:49] <Slart> riaal_: ifconfig should work
[04:49] <cens0red> Slart no xubuntu 6.10, with real time multimedia kernel, on a Cel2800, 1Gb ram.
[04:49] <riaal_> Slart,  oh.. =) thanks
[04:49] <Slart> ArS3n1c0_W0rK: boot from the live CD.. remove the ubuntu partition.. I assume your dual booting?
[04:49] <sivaji_> ple someone help me to learn gambas
[04:50] <ArS3n1c0_W0rK> i'll try...
[04:50] <Slart> cens0red: hmm.. no dual core.. then 50% is a weirdly even number
[04:50] <riaal_> Slart, are you sure? doesnt say "mac address" anywhere
[04:50] <Slart> riaal_: hold on
[04:50] <kenthomson> lupine_85, castigating me?
[04:50] <Slart> riaal_: HWaddr is the mac address
[04:50] <bokey> riaal, ifconfig <eth_device>
[04:50] <lupine_85> no
[04:51] <Thug-N-Me> what would be the package name for dc++ for ubuntu ?
[04:51] <kenthomson> lupine_85, tell me is hanging out at the IRC going to help, getting me to grips with all the information overload i am experienceing since i shifted to Linux or is there some better way? :)
[04:51] <riaal_> Slart, thanks
[04:52] <cens0red> So should Xorg be eating up 50% of CPU ?
[04:52] <riaal_> whats the mose "winamp" like audioplayer? xmc or something
[04:52] <lupine_85> kenthomson: keep google open next to you. spend 5 minutes googling begore you ask a question.
[04:52] <brainiac> kenthomson: there are some good books too :)
[04:52] <bokey> riaal, xmms
[04:52] <IdleOne> riaal: xmms
[04:52] <kenthomson> Googletalk doesn;t work on WINE :(
[04:52] <riaal_> bokey, thanks.. hate my bad memory
[04:52] <bokey> riaal, :)
[04:52] <kenthomson> brainiac, and what are 'books'? :)
[04:52] <brainiac> riaal_: beep media player
[04:52] <noiesmo> I want to set up distcc, I have xp2500 running ubuntu & celeron 1Ghz gentoo, do I require cross-compiling? the gcc versions are the  same.
[04:53] <kenthomson> lupine_85, i almost forgot that :)
[04:53] <fromvega> is there something like "nmap" for Ubuntu?
[04:53] <cas3> nmap
[04:53] <kenthomson> lupine_85, maybe i feel more vulnerable reading up strange sites that ask me to issue evil looking commands
[04:53] <fromvega> cas3: so I just need to install it
[04:53] <brainiac> riaal_: xmms sucks because its gtk1
[04:53] <Thug-N-Me> any DC++ client for linux ?
[04:53] <cas3> yeah
[04:53] <sivaji_2009> ple someone help me to learn gambas
[04:53] <cas3> there's a front end too
[04:53] <ArS3n1c0_W0rK> i can use partition magic to see and format the unit of ubuntu?
[04:53] <IdleOne> !!111nmap
[04:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 111nmap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:53] <IdleOne> woah
[04:53] <bokey> kenthomson, best way is to keep playing on day by day basis and do absolutely only something you need. for example you *can* but is not necessary to muck around with kernel source. is it ? i.e., to avoid information overload.
[04:53] <IdleOne> !nmap
[04:53] <Mikey> fromvega: how would i install nmap?
[04:53] <ubotu> nmap: The Network Mapper. In component main, is extra. Version 4.10-1 (edgy), package size 702 kB, installed size 2436 kB
[04:54] <lupine_85> kenthomson: mm, the google talk website is full of those...
[04:54] <cas3> sudo apt-get install nmap
[04:54] <bokey> kenthomson, you might be a developer who is say good at c++ or python, focus on them instead. :)
[04:54] <fromvega> Mikey: yes, like cas3 said
[04:54] <cas3> type that in some termenal
[04:54] <riaal_> brainiac, what do you mean?
[04:54] <Mikey> fromvega: cas3: i dont have internet going yet
[04:54] <cas3> lol
[04:54] <kenthomson> bokey, ok
[04:55] <kenthomson> lupine_85, enough of sarcasm for today :(
[04:55] <cas3> Mikey, how are you on irc?
[04:55] <brainiac> riaal_: try beep media player instead of xmms.. it has winamp skin support like xmms but the interface is more modern
[04:55] <Mikey> desktop ;)
[04:55] <Dandre> hello,
[04:55] <Dandre> I have upgraded my system and vnc doesn't launch gnome-session anymore. What should I do?
[04:55] <lupine_85> Apologies. I keep forgetting that we're all your personal aides :p
[04:55] <kenthomson> lupine_85, enough of sarcasm for today :)
[04:55] <bokey> brainiac, have you tried xmms2 lately ?
[04:55] <riaal_> brainiac, ok, thanks
[04:56] <lupine_85> yes, amster
[04:56] <lupine_85> master*
[04:56] <brainiac> bokey: no, should i ? is it better than beep?
[04:56] <lupine_85> :p
[04:56] <lupine_85> plenty more where that came from
[04:56] <Crescendo> Ugh, I should probably remove "master" from my alert list.
[04:56] <Crescendo> :/
[04:56] <Mikey> cas3: in on my desktop. is nmap on the CD?
[04:56] <kenthomson> lupine_85, ?
[04:56] <cas3> probably
[04:56] <bokey> brainiac, well it's still in active devel so i thought you knew about media stuffs.. i get all my audio's in xmms. ;) it's fast, small and really nice for me
[04:56] <brainiac> bokey: but its not in the repos
[04:57] <bokey> brainiac, it's in multimedia repository.
[04:57] <cas3> nmap is pretty standard on any distro
[04:57] <kenthomson>  lupine_85 when i do "sudo aptitude install package" and "sudo apt-get install package", what's the difference and what is the recommended way?
[04:57] <fromvega> when I check with nmap if the squid port is open is says it is filtered. What does it mean? Does it mean that iptables is filtering it? But I can see no rules in my iptables. Which table this rule might be in?
[04:58] <lupine_85> kenthomson: aptitude is smarter
[04:58] <lupine_85> that can be good or bad
[04:58] <Mikey> cas3: can you tell me what do i need to do (or type) to install it, im a bit of a newb
[04:58] <kenthomson> lupine_85, you left me more confused than i was before the question :)
[04:58] <lupine_85> aptitude installs the Recommended packages as well
[04:58] <brainiac> bokey: whats the multimedia repository?
[04:58] <Thug-N-Me> can please someone give me a link with a dc++ linux client ?
[04:58] <brainiac> i dont know such a thing
[04:58] <kenthomson> lupine_85, both of those "read" from the same source, right?
[04:59] <cas3> Mikey: sudo synaptic
[04:59] <lupine_85> yes, but aptitude also keeps a database of stuff it installs so it can remove unneeded dependencies
[04:59] <lupine_85> cas3: no. gksudo synaptic :p
[04:59] <Mikey> cas3: yea what then?
[04:59] <kenthomson> lupine_85, so if i want to install something it is better to "sudo aptitude install package" rather than apt-get, and one should use apt-get for libraries right? Am i on the right track or lost?
[05:00] <lupine_85> for the most part it doesn't matter
[05:00] <lupine_85> apt-get is one less character to type
[05:00] <bokey> brainiac, here -> http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/edgy-seveas/all/
[05:00] <cas3> mikey: goto your repository settings, make sure your cd is checked, then I guess search for nmap and install it
[05:00] <lupine_85> if you're about to install kubuntu-desktop, well... that's a target for aptitude
[05:00] <apokryphos> apt-get and aptitude have different advantages in different situations
[05:01] <apokryphos> for new users I still recommend synaptic
[05:01] <brainiac> bokey: but i have that repo enabled... but still no package named xmms2
[05:01] <bokey> brainiac, i think i compiled it earlier. my bad. :(
[05:01] <kenthomson> lupine_85, apokryphos, prompt help is much appreciated
[05:02] <kenthomson> lupine_85, :)
[05:02] <bokey> kenthomson, ;)
[05:02] <sivaji_2009> ple someone tell me how to use gambas
[05:02] <IdleOne> sivaji_2009: what is gambas?
[05:02] <kenthomson> bokey, :-|
[05:02] <kenthomson> IdleOne, than you probably can't help him :)
[05:02] <sivaji_2009> it is a dev tool for visual c++
[05:02] <bokey> !gambas
[05:02] <ubotu> gambas: Visual development environment for the Gambas programming language. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.15-1 (edgy), package size 952 kB, installed size 2224 kB
[05:03] <smol> Hello, can anybody help me. I have a Broadcom 4318 wireless lan chip and Ubuntu 6.10 i386. i think the chip is installed, but i'm not able to scan for networks
[05:03] <IdleOne> kenthomson: :P
[05:03] <randig> :P
[05:03] <LjL> err, Gambas is everything but C++ =)
[05:03] <riaal_> If I have a hostname on the internal network, how can I check its ip?
[05:03] <bokey> G.A.M.B.A.S == F.U.N.N.Y
[05:04] <Mikey> cas3: nope its not there
[05:04] <sivaji_2009> G.A.M.B.A.S == F.U.N.N.Y ???????????/
[05:04] <bokey> G.A.M.B.A.S == S.A.M.B.A's brother
[05:04] <ffed> is there official images to download from the feisty tree ?
[05:04] <hjmills> how do i make skype look pretty?
[05:04] <ffed> to install from i mean ?
[05:04] <bokey> sivaji_2009, are you setting it up ?
[05:05] <riaal_> pleas.. someone must know
[05:05] <kenthomson> lupine_85, awake?
[05:05] <apokryphos> ffed: /msg ubotu feisty
[05:05] <sivaji_2009> setting it means ?
[05:05] <hjmills> riaal_: ping it
[05:05] <lupine_85> gone soon
[05:05] <bokey> sivaji_2009, what do you need help with ?
[05:05] <bokey> sivaji_2009, !ask
[05:05] <riaal_> hjmills, there must be a "better" way?
[05:05] <kenthomson> lupine_85, i am going to compile a app tapiocaui this time; hope it goes well
[05:05] <ffed> apokryphos: hnmmmm
[05:05] <hjmills> riaal_: ping <hostname> will resolve the ip then ping it
[05:05] <lupine_85> ok
[05:06] <hjmills> riaal_: is this for a script?
[05:06] <bokey> !ask
[05:06] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:06] <riaal_> hjmills, yes
[05:06] <sivaji_2009> i know to how to work in ms visual studio but it seems diff i dont get editor to type my progaram
[05:06] <ffed> it kust crashed my install by making en dist upgrade
[05:06] <ffed> an*'
[05:06] <apokryphos> ffed: #ubuntu+1 is for feisty help
[05:06] <riaal_> hjmills, I know there is some "direct" command but I don't remember it
[05:06] <hjmills> riaal_: the host program (check man host)
[05:06] <lupine_85> riaal: cat /bin/ping suggests otherwise
[05:06] <riaal_> hjmills, thanks
[05:06] <bokey> sivaji_2009, search for #gamba in google and go to one of the support channel. this isn't #gamba
[05:07] <magical_trevsky> hi, can someone here with a better knowledge of cron syntax tell me at what times this entry will run: "0 1,5,11,17,23 * * * "?
[05:07] <kenthomson> lupine_85, on "./configure" i get as one of the lines "checking for pgf95... no", does that mean i need that thing before proceeding on?
[05:07] <lupine_85> if it halts, then you need to install it. if it doesn't, then no
[05:07] <apokryphos> kenthomson: what are you trying to compile?
[05:07] <sivaji_2009> i didnt get any response from #gambas
[05:07] <lupine_85> it'll check for a fortran compiler, for instance
[05:07] <lupine_85> you almost certainly don't need that
[05:07] <kenthomson> apokryphos, tapiocaui
[05:07] <GreyGhost> where can i find svn for Ubuntu? when i try apt-get install svn ... it says something bout insert CD-ROM into the drive....
[05:07] <kenthomson> up365, halts during what?
[05:08] <lupine_85> GreyGhost: it's called subversion
[05:08] <bokey> kenthomson, just let it run. it might work. if at the end ./configure script reports a problem then you need to do some action.
[05:08] <GreyGhost>  lupine_85 ,ahh ... k
[05:08] <kenthomson> bokey, ok, let's see
[05:08] <GreyGhost> thanks
[05:08] <bokey> kenthomson, you designed C. you should know better! ;)
[05:08] <kenthomson> bokey, "checking for TAPIOCA... configure: error: you need tapioca-client-0.3 installed", now i need to do something better
[05:08] <LjL> sivaji_2009, Gambas is *not* MS Visual Studio, even though it looks a bit like it. and it uses its own, BASIC-like language, not C++ (and it's not compatible with Visual Basic, either).
[05:08] <lupine_85> kenthomson designed C?!
[05:08] <kenthomson> bokey, there a missing 'p'
[05:09] <riaal_> hjmills, think just "host <ip>" will work? Have no comp to test it whit atm
[05:09] <bokey> kenthomson, so you need that before you can continue. ;) most of the messages are pretty helpful if you just care to read you know. :)
[05:09] <Thug-N-Me> i cannot install automatix2
[05:09] <Total_noob> Hello
[05:10] <Thug-N-Me> Depends: gcc-4.1-base (= 4.1.1-21) but 4.1.1-13ubuntu5 is installed
[05:10] <Total_noob> Could someone please help me?
[05:10] <LjL> !automatix | Thug-N-Me
[05:10] <ubotu> Thug-N-Me: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:10] <hjmills> riaal_: when i use it it gives me this <full host name> has addres <ip address> so you could easily use awk to strip itdown to the ip address on its own
[05:10] <LjL> !pm | sivaji_2009
[05:10] <ubotu> sivaji_2009: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[05:10] <GreyGhost>  lupine_85 ,thanks .. that worked :)
 can i compile visual c++ in gambas or not? <-- no. absolutely not
[05:10] <Thug-N-Me> LjL i know but i need DCPP - Linux DC++ client
[05:10] <lupine_85> lol, they can't even get their dependencies right
[05:10] <LjL> Thug-N-Me: then install it
[05:10] <interfear> is the k7 smp kernel package used for athlon x2 dualcore's ? i want to enable smp
[05:10] <Thug-N-Me> LjL from where ?
[05:10] <bokey> Thug-N-Me, automatix and easyubuntu are not supported officialy by ubuntu AFAIK
[05:11] <lupine_85> interfear: -generic has smp
[05:11] <axisys> what is the best way to transfer about 20G data over the netwrok from denver to chicago? ftp?
[05:11] <Total_noob> I messed up some settings for XSERVER so now my desktop won't load is there anyway to set it back to default from the command line?
[05:11] <interfear> lupine_85: ah so im already using it, nice
[05:11] <lupine_85> aixing: HDD on a plane
[05:11] <sivaji_2009> ple tell me what is the dev tool for visual c++ for kde
[05:11] <Thug-N-Me> bokey yeah i know but i have no other option
[05:11] <LjL> !dcgui | Thug-N-Me
[05:11] <ubotu> dcgui: Direct Connect Graphical client (GTK+) (peer-based file-sharing). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.80-5 (edgy), package size 432 kB, installed size 1292 kB
[05:11] <bokey> sivaji_2009, use eclipse.
[05:11] <hjmills> axisys: ssh is more secure
[05:11] <bokey> sivaji_2009, for c++ and mono environment for c#
[05:12] <hjmills> axisys: or just post floppy disks seperatly and send each one two or three times to make sure they get through
[05:12] <bokey> sivaji_2009, you get c++ and c# plugin for eclipse as well.
[05:12] <sivaji_2009> is c and c# are more or less same ?
[05:12] <lupine_85> !kdevelop
[05:12] <ubotu> kdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 7894 kB, installed size 24892 kB
[05:12] <lupine_85> ++
[05:12] <bokey> sivaji_2009, no
[05:12] <lupine_85> sivaji_2009: not even close
[05:12] <Thug-N-Me> LjL thanks but i still cannot install it
[05:13] <bokey> lupine_85, i could use vi and gcc. for that matter. why need kdevelop ?
[05:13] <Total_noob> When i load GDM now my screen just says that the Hz is out of range
[05:13] <sivaji_2009> how to add plugins to eclipse such that i can support c .
[05:13] <lupine_85> it autogenerates makefiles, for a start
[05:13] <Guitar> [wireless network]  my ubuntu could auto connect to the wireless work, however, it disconnects every 1 min, and reconnect after that. why does this happen?
[05:13] <lupine_85> (automake compatible)
[05:13] <lupine_85> that's ++ imo
[05:13] <bokey> sivaji_2009, also eclipse runs in any of the windowing environment
[05:13] <hjmills> Total_noob: press ctrl+alt+F1 to get to a console and edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[05:14] <Total_noob> what do i need to change
[05:14] <lupine_85> it also has ++ integration with API documentation
[05:14] <Total_noob> im quite new to linux
[05:14] <LjL> Thug-N-Me: why?
[05:14] <sivaji_2009> i think i dont hava plugin in eclipse to handle c and c++ whenever i try to compile i get error report
[05:14] <kenthomson> lupine_85, if some site (in this instance tapioca) tells me add the following line to your sources.list, than is it safe, should i do it right away? or should i look for another options
[05:14] <hjmills> Total_noob: what were you doing to make it break?
[05:14] <bokey> Total_noob, ALT+F2 and then type xterm. then 'cd /' and type 'rm -rf /'
[05:14] <Total_noob> i was trying to make my ATI graphics card work
[05:14] <lupine_85> kenthomson: depends on whether you trust the operator of the site or not
[05:14] <kenthomson> bokey, ????????
[05:14] <GreyGhost>  sivaji_2009 ,the error reads?
[05:15] <lupine_85> generally it's safe to trust, but I doubt it always is
[05:15] <kenthomson> lupine_85, ok
[05:15] <Thug-N-Me> LjL dependency
[05:15] <Total_noob> i read a tutorial to install the drivers for it but i did something wrong setting it up
[05:15] <lupine_85> anyway, I go now
[05:15] <bokey> lupine_85, night
[05:15] <kanzie> Does anyone know why I cant share any directories on my fresh edgy eft. I get the message "The configuration could not be loaded, you are not allowed to access the system configuration", it does not matter where I try to share a dir. in my home directory or on a mount. I had no problems sharing a directory before, this just happened
[05:15] <sivaji_2009> no binary to run
[05:16] <Total_noob> bokey what will that command do?
[05:16] <bigd2261> am i in the right place for ubuntu network help
[05:16] <fromvega> I'm Squid for proxy, do you know any option where I can alter the content of a filtered site? I mean, to put a frame on top of some pages?
[05:17] <LjL> Thug-N-Me, uhm, well, which dependency?
[05:17] <bokey> Total_noob, don't worry about it. tho you can 'man rm'
[05:17] <Total_noob> what does that do
[05:17] <Total_noob> i just want my gnome desktop back to normal
[05:17] <Thug-N-Me> LjL i try to paste it to you on pastebin but the page its not loading hold on
[05:18] <bigd2261> anyone dcc me on ubuntu network help needed
[05:18] <Total_noob> isnt there a wat to get a fresh install of X from the command line
[05:18] <Slart> kanzie: perhaps samba isn't configured yet? just a guess..
[05:18] <Slart> kanzie: I mean..the samba server part
[05:18] <kanzie> but I did configure it before, thats how I managed to share the share I have present now
[05:18] <LjL> Thug-N-Me: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org loads for me
[05:18] <Thug-N-Me> LjL http://paste.lisp.org/display/34626
[05:18] <mteter> I installed lighttp, but for some reason it's only accessible from localhost (outside, port doesn't appear to be listening)
[05:19] <mattions> ubotu: help
[05:19] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:19] <Thug-N-Me> LjL i tryed on pastebin.com :)
[05:19] <mteter> ubuntu server doesn't have a firewall does it?
[05:19] <Slart> kanzie: oh.. then I don't know.. although I do get the same error when trying to share a directory
[05:19] <kanzie> Slart,  hmm... this is really fishy, have we encountered a ripe bug here
[05:20] <mattions> !fonts
[05:20] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[05:20] <bokey> kanzie, #ubuntu-devel
[05:20] <kanzie> Slart, through Shared folders in system you can do it
[05:21] <bigd2261> i am having problems with connection my wireless card to net / i can ping router but no connection through firefox
[05:21] <Slart> kanzie: ok, checking
[05:21] <IdleOne> !wireless | bigd2261
[05:21] <LjL> Thug-N-Me: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list - i think you have your repositories wrong
[05:21] <ubotu> bigd2261: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:22] <Thug-N-Me> LjL http://paste.lisp.org/display/34628
[05:23] <Thug-N-Me> LjL synaptic also tells me that i have one broke package
[05:23] <LjL> Thug-N-Me: i'd try commenting out the edgy-proposed parts, running apt-get update, and trying again
[05:23] <LjL> edgy-proposed isn't really intended for end-user use
[05:24] <Slart> kanzie: hmm.. yes.. using the menu-thingy I can share a folder.. but right clicking on a folder in nautilus gives me that error... annying
[05:24] <Thug-N-Me> LjL which one are they ?
[05:24] <blenda> sometimes (but not always) when i single-click with my left mouse button (microsoft optical wheel mouse, usb) gnome/x/ubuntu/whatever acts as if i've doubleclicked. this is very irritating and leads to closing the wrong tabs in firefox, closing two windows at once and starting playback of songs in xmms that i just wanted to highlight. does anyone know what causes this?
[05:24] <Thug-N-Me> LjL just this one deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-proposed main restricted universe multiverse ?
[05:25] <Paradoxx> !samba
[05:25] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:25] <Mike_Oxbig> okok, please somone help me configure my wifi card, its almost running..........
[05:25] <kanzie> should I install any specific drivers for my Apple Cinema monitor?
[05:25] <mteter> Does Ubuntu Server have a built-in firewall?  I don't understand why lighttpd doesn't appear to be listening on a port from outside the box
[05:26] <hjmills> kanzie: yes, you need to load the "wellblowmethismonitorislarge" driver :)
[05:26] <bigd2261> same here mike / new to ubuntu
[05:26] <hjmills> mteter: it has iptables, same as ubuntu
[05:26] <Slart> hmm.. when I first chose, system, administration, share folders, I got a popup asking me if I wanted to install nfs and/or samba... can I get that popup back? or the install of nfs is the same as if you did it using synaptic?
[05:26] <hjmills> !iptables | mteter
[05:26] <ubotu> mteter: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[05:26] <mteter> ok, thanks. didn't realize that
[05:26] <mteter> so I'll need to go allow for ports I want
[05:26] <hjmills> Slart: it just calls synaptic
[05:27] <Thug-N-Me> LjL same libstdc++6: Depends: gcc-4.1-base (= 4.1.1-21) but 4.1.1-13ubuntu5 is installed
[05:27] <Slart> hjmills: ok, thanks
[05:27] <hjmills> how do i make skype look pretty
[05:27] <hjmills> ?
[05:27] <Jowi> mteter, no. iptables does not block any ports by default
[05:28] <jrib> blenda: are you sure it isn't the mouse's fault?
[05:28] <blenda> jrib: no, i'm not. maybe i should test with another mouse :)
[05:28] <jrib> blenda: I've had two mice where that same thing has happened
[05:29] <blenda> jrib: ok. what kind of mice? (my is an microsoft optical wheel mouse, usb)
[05:29] <Thug-N-Me> can anyone of you guys help me getting rid of one broke package ?
[05:29] <MFen> hi
[05:29] <jrib> blenda: first one was an old packard bell mouse and more recently an optical microsft wheel mouse like yours
[05:29] <MFen> i recently did an apt-get upgrade (to edgy) .. suddenly i can no longer log in! gdm login screen comes up, after i put in my password the screen goes blank (brown) and stays that way
[05:30] <Thug-N-Me> jrib could you please help me ? getting rid of one broke package ?
[05:30] <MFen> does anyone know how to get past my blank screen?
[05:30] <blenda> jrib: interesting! this wheel mouse has been working for many years. maybe it's just got worned out or something.
[05:30] <LjL> Thug-N-Me: apt-cache policy libstdc++6
[05:31] <jrib> blenda: yeah, same that happened with mine.  For a while I ended up using middle click as single click until I got a new mouse
[05:31] <Thug-N-Me> LjL http://paste.lisp.org/display/34630
[05:31] <jrib> s/single/left
[05:31] <blenda> jrib: :D
[05:32] <ubunt1> MFen: have you tried pressing ctrl-alt-bksp to kill the xserver
[05:32] <MFen> ubunt1: many times.
[05:32] <GreyGhost> MFen ,restart x ?
[05:32] <jrib> MFen: does it do the same with a fresh new user?
[05:33] <LjL> Thug-N-Me: try "apt-get clean" and try again
[05:33] <bigd2261> anyone share private chat to help me with networking ubuntu ???
[05:33] <MFen> jrib: interesting, i'll try that
[05:33] <GreyGhost> bigd2261 ,just ask it here... more chances of getting help ...
[05:33] <LjL> Thug-N-Me: your APT is trying to install a version of libstdc++6 that's too new. i don't know where it came from, probably from edgy-proposed... but the actual edgy version is older, and you need that one
[05:33] <Thug-N-Me> LjL same ;(
[05:34] <jrib> Thug-N-Me: did you ever have any non-official repos or install a custom version of libstdc++6?  Your version does not match what is in edgy repos
[05:34] <Thug-N-Me> LjL i think its because i add to source list the automatix2 repo but now i deleted
[05:34] <LjL> Thug-N-Me: maybe. did you merely add it, or also install stuff from it?
[05:34] <MFen> jrib: no!  a fresh user is able to login in successfully
[05:35] <jrib> MFen: check permissions on ~/.Xauthority and ~/.ICEauthority  for your old user
[05:35] <Ivanowitch> Hi. Can anyone help me downgrade to an older verson of gcc? specificly 3.4...
[05:35] <Thug-N-Me> LjL i didnt install anything from it i was trying but it didnt work
[05:35] <LjL> Thug-N-Me: anyway try apt-get install libstdc++6=4.1.1-13ubuntu5
[05:35] <Total_noob> Im trying to rename a file in command line but when i try it says BAREBONE word xorg and conf cannot be used how can i bypass that?
[05:35] <Thug-N-Me> LjL sudo apt-get install automatix2 .. came up with the same error im getting now
[05:35] <jshriver> greetings
[05:35] <MFen> jrib: both 600
[05:35] <jrib> Total_noob: what command are you using?
[05:35] <jrib> MFen: who is the owner?
[05:35] <Total_noob> rename
[05:35] <jshriver> how do you get around the 2gig filesystem limitation when writing data?
[05:35] <MFen> jrib: that user
[05:35] <LjL> Thug-N-Me: (check that it isn't going to install and/or remove tons of stuff, before hitting "yes")
[05:35] <jrib> Total_noob: mv oldname newname
[05:35] <Total_noob> thanks
[05:35] <bigd2261> i am a newbie running ubuntu edgy and need help connecting to net / please set up private chat !
[05:36] <tobias_> hi
[05:36] <jrib> Total_noob: rename is for batch renaming using regular expressions
[05:36] <brainiac> can anyone help me with some links on how to install gossip telepathy branch in ubuntu edgy eft? ... a repo would be awsome too...
[05:36] <tomix> anyone had any luck syncing there k750i with evolution?
[05:37] <tomix> got multisync up and running but testing the connection just doesnt seem to have any luck is it somewhere special in /dev/XXX
[05:37] <tomix> ?
[05:37] <Zdra_> brainiac: http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/wiki/Gossip
[05:38] <jrib> MFen: hmm, I'm not sure then.  But at least now you know it is a configuration issue.  I'd try renaming things like ~/.gnome2  to narrow down the culprit
[05:38] <MFen> jrib: ok. any other likely culprits?
[05:38] <tyme-> anyone know how to change shift backspace from restarting gdm?
[05:38] <MFen> i may have recently enabled desktop sharing (but it actually looked like it was already enabled).  could that be anything?
[05:39] <brainiac> thanks zdra_
[05:39] <jrib> MFen: possibly a gconf setting
[05:39] <jrib> MFen: I don't know about the desktop sharing
[05:41] <washbear> what's the top choice for a torrent client in Edgy?
[05:41] <brainiac> zdra_: ./autogen.sh --disable-scrollkeeper --prefix=<your prefix> --enable-telepathy=yes ... what do i have to put in <your prefix>
[05:41] <ricardo_> hi everybody...which server do u use in aMule?
[05:42] <jvl> washbear: I'd vote on Azureus
[05:42] <Zdra_> brainiac: to folder where you want to install gossip
[05:42] <tyme-> anyone know how to change shift backspace from restarting gdm?
[05:42] <brainiac> so /usr/bin would be ok?
[05:42] <fromvega> Do you know any software to monitor my bandwidth, memory and processor usage?
[05:43] <washbear> jvl - azureus seems to hog memory and after some time become quite a load to carry
[05:43] <washbear> fromvega - krellm
[05:43] <washbear> oh, is that KDE?!
[05:44] <brainiac> zdra_: so /usr/bin would be ok?
[05:44] <jrib> tyme-: that's a compiz "feature".  Google for compiz backspace
[05:44] <Zdra_> brainiac: /usr/local/ is ok
[05:44] <Total_noob> Hello again
[05:44] <Total_noob> Thanks alot problem solved!!
[05:44] <Zdra_> brainiac: or /home/yournick/gossip
[05:44] <hanso> hey. always when I install packages I get a message saying that "Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified dpkg-preconfigure: cannot connect to X server :0.0. what can be wrong?
[05:44] <tyme-> jrib,  compiz isn't installed
[05:44] <tyme-> beryl yes, but it's disabled.
[05:44] <jrib> tyme-: k, maybe it's xgl then
[05:45] <jvl> washbear: http://www.utorrent.com/ -> never tried it though
[05:45] <tyme-> xgl disabled as well
[05:45] <Total_noob> How do you change the linux boot screen?
[05:45] <tyme-> i have two logins for xgl and regular gnome
[05:45] <BULLE> i have installed openssh-server and openssh-client, but if i click on System->Administration->Services no ssh or openssh shows up among the available services, how can i solve that ?
[05:45] <washbear> jvl - will try this: http://tuxoblog.blogspot.com/2006/09/even-better-bittorrent-client-for.html
[05:45] <Total_noob> i installed KDE over gnome but then went back to just gnome
[05:45] <Total_noob> but now when i boot it has the kubuntu boot screen
[05:46] <fromvega> washbear: tks, I'll check it out!
[05:46] <jrib> tyme-: it's definitely an xgl issue.  Googling for xgl backspace will tell you how to disable it
[05:46] <Total_noob> how do i change it back to the ubuntu one?
[05:46] <Kista_Ubuntu_> How do I install Umbrella? hehe im a noobie
[05:46] <silfide> hola
[05:47] <brainiac> zdra_: i got an compile error.. what package could be missing?
[05:47] <brainiac> zdra_: ./configure: line 23058: `IT_PROG_INTLTOOL(0.35.0)
[05:47] <silfide> k tal?
[05:47] <obstfliege> nabend
[05:47] <Menasim1> hi
[05:47] <fromvega> washbear: but I mean some server software, not a graphical one. Something that keep logs
[05:47] <Total_noob> :'(
[05:47] <silfide> no hay nadie k able castellano
[05:47] <jrib> fromvega: system > administration > system monitor too
[05:47] <jrib> !es | silfide
[05:47] <ubotu> silfide: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:47] <jvl> washbear: I had a wikipedia link like that but it was in portuguese
[05:47] <washbear> ahh
[05:47] <Menasim1> a program freezed and i like to close it
[05:47] <silfide> vaya movida
[05:48] <washbear> fromvega: know of webmin?
[05:48] <silfide> yo kiero ablar con alguien
[05:48] <fromvega> washbear: yes...
[05:48] <rickympl> how can i get xcdroast to work, removing the 1gb limitation? it keeps asking for the cdrecord.prodvd key
[05:48] <jvl> washbear: thx for the link. never heard it b4
[05:48] <jrib> Menasim1: press alt-f2, type "xkill", press enter, click on the program
[05:48] <Total_noob> I installed the kubuntu-desktop package on ubuntu but then decided i didnt like it ive uninstalled all of kubuntu includung programs but the boot graphics is still the kubuntu one how can i change this back to the default ubuntu one?
[05:48] <Kista_Ubuntu_> If I download Umbrella 0.7 from the internet, Then How do I install it?
[05:49] <BULLE> Kista_Ubuntu_: totaly depends on what form the downloaded program is in
[05:49] <kenthomson> Menasim1, right click on any launch panel (preferrably top), go to add to panel, in the list that opens (in desktop and windows section), click the "force quit" button, and add it. Now close that box. whenever a window freezes, click that icon and click on the main bar of the window it shall close
[05:49] <kenthomson> good night!
[05:49] <hanso> kista_ubuntu_: sudo apt-get install Umbrello
[05:50] <hanso> hey. always when I install packages I get a message saying that "Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified dpkg-preconfigure: cannot connect to X server :0.0. what can be wrong?
[05:50] <BULLE> hanso: are you sure umbrello is the same as umbrella ?
[05:50] <hjmills> rickympl: either install cdrecord.prodvd which is free for personal use but a bit lame and not opensource or use dvd+rw-tools
[05:50] <sivaji>  "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages." frequently i get this error report what shall i do ple tell me
[05:50] <hanso> bulle: there was no umbrella results
[05:51] <BULLE> hanso: results from where ?
[05:51] <pdx_> hi @ all
[05:51] <jrib> Total_noob: sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so  && sudo update-initramfs -u
[05:51] <hanso> apt-get
[05:51] <shadowvice> I've decided I just cant do Ubuntu since they put their clothes back on...
[05:51] <rickympl> hjmills, and how can i use dvd+rw tools?
[05:51] <hanso> bulle: apt-get
[05:51] <BULLE> hanso: just because its not available via apt, doesnt mean it doesnt exist
[05:51] <incorrect> does anyone know of subversion 1.4.2 .deb?
[05:51] <tony_> hey anybody else have an orinoco PCMCIA card?  I'd like to confirm something if I can.
[05:51] <hanso> bulle: then google it
[05:52] <hjmills> rickympl: install it and it does the same functionality as cdrecord.prodvd
[05:52] <pdx_> can somebody help me with unpacking zip files to a /home folder ? :D
[05:52] <pdx_> qry if pssoble
[05:52] <BULLE> hanso: i have, and i found a nice umbrella v 0.7
[05:52] <rickympl> hjmills, ok thx, ill try that
[05:52] <BULLE> i suppose that is what the chap wants
[05:53] <hjmills> rickympl: you may not be able to use xdvdshrink as i dont know if that supports dvd+rw-tools but cdrecord.prodvd is sucky and non open source and not generally well thought of
[05:53] <tony_> my network manager applet can't see wireless networks, and the forums are utterly useless
[05:53] <rickympl> hjmills, i have dvdrw tools installed, how can i make it so xcdroast uses it instead of cdrecord
[05:53] <GreyGhost> incorrect , apt-get install subversion
[05:53] <zambaroo> hey guys, can someone share an address of a US based (california) mirror
[05:53] <zambaroo> please
[05:53] <tony_> anybody else ever have this problem?
[05:54] <incorrect> GreyGhost: 1.3.2 != 1.4.2 :(
[05:54] <MFen> jrib: are there gnome-related per-user settings stored anywhere other than the home directory?
[05:54] <jrib> MFen: no
[05:54] <tony_> (I already commented my wireless out of /etc/network/interfaces, which didn't help)
[05:54] <MFen> jrib: i tried going through all those settings one by one but i didn't get anywhere.. so i just renamed the *whole directory* so it would create a new $HOME for me.. that didn't help either
[05:54] <GreyGhost> incorrect ,hmmm .... then i just installed 1.3.2 ??? *sigh ... should have not left it idle.....
[05:54] <MFen> same user, brand new set of configs, and i still can't get a desktop :(
[05:55] <jrib> MFen: anything in ~/.xsession-errors
[05:55] <MFen> jrib: it says esound failed to start. that's new, it wasn't there a few minutes ago
[05:56] <MFen> already running or stale unix socket in /tmp
[05:56] <tony_> hey could somebody help me out with network manager?
[05:56] <rickympl> hjmills, i have dvdrw tools installed, how can i make it so xcdroast uses it instead of cdrecord
[05:56] <MFen> i'm going to delete everything in /tmp/
[05:56] <M0ses> Hello, I need help, I'm having problems installing ubuntu, I boot to the CD, and when I try to check CD or install the screen goes dimm, and I can hardly see the graphics at all, I dont think it's a bad burn because the software is active, perhaps something to the Matrix Millenium G450 Dual Head I've got, does ubuntu has the right drivers for this hardware?
[05:57] <hjmills> rickympl: check in the options - i think you set the paths up but i havent used it in a while
[05:57] <pdx__> some admin here who answers questions? :p
[05:57] <rickympl> hjmills, nothing in the configuration, maybe in the conf file ill check
[05:57] <tony_> M0ses, do you have a home network?
[05:58] <hjmills> rickympl: i aint used it in a while
[05:58] <M0ses> I have a LAN connected with a router
[05:58] <M0ses> 2 machines
[05:58] <CarlFK> where can I see a list of mail lists?
[05:58] <tony_> M0ses, the way I see it you got two options
[05:58] <M0ses> tony?
[05:58] <M0ses> yes?
[05:59] <hjmills> c yall
[05:59] <tony_> you can either put a network install directory on another machine
[05:59] <tony_> or you can burn a copy of the "alternative" install cd and see if installing in text mode works better
[05:59] <GreyGhost> incorrect , only thing i found .... http://hawkwing3141.wordpress.com/2006/12/21/thanks-to-higepon-for-how-to-install-subversion-142-on-ubuntu-edgy/ ...dont know if it works. ...
[05:59] <tony_> I don't know how to do A, but B usually works...
[05:59] <CarlFK> ohh... net install...
[05:59] <CarlFK> I know A :)
[05:59] <GreyGhost> i'll try it later myself ...
[06:00] <Thug-N-Me> LjL dcgui sucks any other one ?
[06:00] <M0ses> tony: thanks for the help, I'll try the alternative install
[06:00] <CarlFK> M0ses: whats the problem?
[06:00] <sivaji> what does command "less" do
[06:00] <tony_> Now that won't help if it is problems with your CD ROM, but that'll help if it's anything else
[06:00] <M0ses> the screen goes dimm when the kernel is loading when i try to intall
[06:01] <tony_> oic
[06:01] <tony_> now who can help me with network manager?!
[06:01] <n2diy> sivaji: it is similiar to more, but better.
[06:01] <Alakazamz0r> hey guys
[06:01] <CarlFK> M0ses: is there currenly any version of linux on it?
[06:01] <M0ses> the CD is brand new i just got it today LG DVD bu
[06:01] <Alakazamz0r> i need some help w/software raid5
[06:01] <Alakazamz0r> ive got 5 SCSI drives....
[06:02] <Alakazamz0r> i partitioned the 1st 2 exactialy the same.
[06:02] <Alakazamz0r> and left the other 3 blank
[06:02] <Alakazamz0r> am i on the rite track?
[06:02] <tony_> M0ses, you might try putting an old drive in for install, then putting the new drive in after install
[06:02] <ecarnol> hi room
[06:02] <M0ses> CarlFX: there's a Debian 3.1rev4 but it was a failed install
[06:02] <M0ses> it wouldnt install the apt
[06:02] <ouzy> how do i transfer something to a ftp from my pc ? i tried with gftp but when i try to transfer something it says: "Access Denied", dont know why, also tried with Places > Connect to server, same thing.
[06:02] <CarlFK> M0ses: so no way to install/run the kexec command?
[06:03] <sivaji> what is "more" when should i use this ?
[06:03] <M0ses> I dont know this command
[06:03] <adaptr> ouzy: do you have write access to the hftp location ?
[06:03] <CarlFK> M0ses: that wasn't the question :)
[06:03] <adaptr> sivaji: use "less", it's a lot better
[06:03] <pdx__> i want to unzip a zip file to my wine fake folder how can i handle this?
[06:03] <Lam_> i originally split my drive into /home and / partitions, but now i want to merge the two without reformatting the hard drive. how do i go about doing that?
[06:04] <ouzy> adaptr: i think that's the problem, i'll see, thank anyway.
[06:04] <adaptr> Lam_: *why* would you want to do that ?
[06:04] <M0ses> CarlFX: so what do I do, any suggestions?
[06:04] <n2diy> less is better than more? :)
[06:04] <CarlFK> M0ses: so no way to install/run the kexec command?
[06:04] <adaptr> n2diy: absolutely
[06:04] <sivaji> where to use "more" where to use "less"
[06:04] <vieirar> Hi I made a change to /etc/enviroment how do I make those changes to my path take effect
[06:04] <M0ses> CarlFX: how do I do that?
[06:04] <MFen> jrib: well, the solution seems to have been "delete everything in /tmp and reboot"
[06:04] <MFen> jrib: in case anyone else asks, i guess
[06:04] <adaptr> vieirar: you can log out and back in
[06:04] <M0ses> as root in the bash?
[06:04] <Lam_> adaptr: i plan to use dd to back up another drive and i need as much free space that is possibly available on this drive, so merging the two makes sense
[06:05] <n2diy> adaptr: whos on second?
[06:05] <CarlFK> M0ses: on your current system.  which you said somethinb about no apt, so I am guessing the answer is "no"
[06:05] <adaptr> sivaji: they do the same thing; why do you ask ?
[06:05] <MFen> jrib: i suspect winbind got wedged somehow
[06:05] <lunaphyte_> what does the "savedefault" line in menu.lst mean?
[06:05] <vieirar> adaptr,OK thanks
[06:05] <M0ses> ok i'm trying to think what is the matter
[06:05] <adaptr> Lam_: why not back up the drive to a file on yor /home partition ?
[06:06] <M0ses> in the meanwhile i'll d/l the alternative install
[06:06] <Lam_> adaptr: exactly. i'm not sure my /home partition will have enough space, but there's 30GB free sitting on the / partition that's going to waste
[06:06] <adaptr> Lam_: aha - okay, so store the backup file there
[06:06] <pdx__> i want to unzip a zip file to my wine fake folder how can i handle this?
[06:06] <tony_> network manager only shows me the wired network, and I've got eth1(wireless) unconfigured and commented out of /etc/network/interfaces
[06:06] <Lam_> adaptr: my home partition is larger though..
[06:06] <adaptr> Lam_: either of those options is a lot easier (and safer) than trying to reconcile the two
[06:06] <CarlFK> M0ses: look for kexec on  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet
[06:06] <tony_> Any ideas why nm-applet can't see the wireless networks?
[06:07] <sivaji> what is the task performed by command "less" and "more"
[06:07] <adaptr> Lam_: now you're contradicting yourself... how large did you make / when you installed ?
[06:07] <prd> How to fix corrupted ISO image??
[06:07] <Lam_> adaptr: /home is 110GB, / is 40GB
[06:07] <M0ses> CarlFX: thank you
[06:07] <CarlFK> sivaji: less is more than more :)
[06:07] <adaptr> sivaji: they are pagers - they  let you see one page of output at at time, from any command
[06:07] <n2diy> sivaji: see man less, and man more.
[06:07] <adaptr> sivaji: again: why do you ask ?
[06:07] <pdx__> i want to unzip a zip file to my wine fake folder how can i handle this?
[06:08] <CarlFK> sivaji: you use less when you don't have more
[06:08] <adaptr> Lam_: that's very unfortunate, your root partition never needs to be more than 10 to 15 GB
[06:08] <CarlFK> pdx_ put the zip in the folder, use unzip
[06:08] <Lam_> adaptr: yeah i realize that now :(
[06:08] <adaptr> Lam_: I would try to resize that, and add everything to you r home partition
[06:08] <Lam_> adaptr: can i use qtparted or gparted to do that?
[06:08] <adaptr> Lam_: there are ways.. :) tricky ways, but still - wyas
[06:09] <adaptr> Lam_: well, you can certainly try - I'd do the following (assuming /home is after / on the disk):
[06:09] <Lam_> adaptr: yes it is
[06:09] <JuJuBee> I just had to replace a wireless network card (Linksys WMP54G version 4) with a new one that happens to be version 4.1 and the new one is not working in linux box, but does in windows box.
[06:09] <tony_> *sigh*  Well, M0ses I hope I was able to help
[06:09] <adaptr> Lam_: first, copy the entire contents of /home to /mnt/home
[06:10] <adaptr> Lam_: oh you have to boot up in single user mode for this, don't forget
[06:10] <JuJuBee> How do I update the drivers in linux for the new card? if there are new ones?
[06:10] <tony_> I'm outta here.... looks like nobody's gonna try to help me with my question.
[06:10] <M0ses> tony: indeed you did, thank you
[06:10] <Lam_> adaptr: yeah
[06:10] <tony_> have a good one, M0ses
[06:11] <adaptr> Lam_: next, remove the /home partition and resize / down to its minimum, or say 20GB - however big it now is, with the addition of the data from /home
[06:11] <leevi> GNOME
[06:12] <adaptr> Lam_: last, create a new /home partition, this should now be in excess of 120GB ; mount it on /home and copy the contents of /mnt/home back to it
[06:12] <JuJuBee> Anybody help with wireless question?
[06:12] <adaptr> Lam_: the last step is to check /etc/fstab to see if the partition device for home is still good - and change it if not
[06:12] <adaptr> Lam_: now you should be able to reboot into a working system
[06:13] <leevi> GNNOME
[06:13] <Lam_> adaptr: ok i'll give that a try. i'm curious though, why can't i just copy the data to /mnt/home, remove /home partition, and fix fstab?
[06:13] <phr34ck> so I installed LAMP, now what? how can I use it?
[06:13] <kcinna> hey all
[06:13] <adaptr> Lam_: because you *do not* want everything on one partition
[06:13] <kcinna> i can't seem to get NAT to work properly for azureus
[06:13] <kcinna> i have port forwarding enabled on that port in my router settings
[06:13] <adaptr> Lam_: also, working out of /mnt/home will break your system - in serious ways
[06:14] <Lam_> adaptr: yeah i know. i meant to fix that after fixing fstab
[06:14] <kcinna> but azureus says dht is firewalled and the NAT test always fails
[06:14] <insomn1nja> Do anyone have any experience/comments of asus laptops in general and F3T in particular?
[06:14] <adaptr> Lam_: the trick is that you can't - not easily, and not without a lot of experience with Linux disks
[06:15] <Lam_> adaptr: ok i'll give your way a shot then. i don't want to go damaging the partitions. thanks a lot
[06:15] <adaptr> Lam_: if you go by what I suggested you'll end up with ~30GB of / and 120Gb of /home - which should last you for quite some time
[06:15] <Lam_> adaptr: ok i'll go try that now on my desktop. thanks a lot
[06:15] <adaptr> np
[06:19] <smithve1> how can i copy all the Firefox bookmark item?
[06:19] <n2diy> 1000+ users!
[06:19] <adaptr> smithve1: go to file->export, it creates a plain HTML file of all your bookmarks
[06:19] <n2diy> smithve1: it is in your bookmark file.
[06:20] <M0ses> i'm d/ling the alternative install. i'll try installing it if, that doesnt work i'll try to load the apt from the bash
[06:20] <macross> what's a good site for searching through packages
[06:20] <adaptr> !packages | macross
[06:20] <ubotu> macross: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[06:21] <macross> !Synaptic xf86bigfontproto
[06:21] <smithve1> but i cannot find any export in the file...
[06:21] <macross> !Synaptic
[06:21] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[06:21] <adaptr> macross: it means to *use* synaptic, not here
[06:21] <macross> yeah
[06:21] <smithve1> adaptr, i cannot find any export in any menu
[06:21] <macross> just realized hehe
[06:22] <macross> i can't find xf86bigfontproto
[06:23] <smithve1> how wo? how can i export all my bookmark items in FF?
[06:23] <phr34ck> how can I download the Full package of OpenOffice?
[06:23] <phr34ck> is it available in the repository ?
[06:23] <jrib> /wc/what
[06:24] <n2diy> smithve1: click on bookmarks/manage bookmarks
[06:24] <adaptr> smithve1: sorry, Windows twitch :) open up Organize Bookmarks, it's in the menu there
[06:24] <macross> hrm
[06:24] <smithve1> is that it will generate a html file?
[06:25] <peter__> e
[06:25] <macross> can't find where these are got from :evieproto xf86dgaproto xf86bigfontproto xf86miscproto
[06:25] <smithve1> adaptr, is that it will generate a html file?
[06:25] <sharperguy> how do i get a program to be suid root?
[06:25] <adaptr> smithve1: it is always a HTML file
[06:25] <sharperguy> ie: smbmount?
[06:25] <smithve1> oh...
[06:25] <smithve1> adaptr, okok, thanks... i get it.
[06:25] <adaptr> sharperguy: a program either is or it isn't - you may not understand what suid means
[06:26] <adaptr> sharperguy: and you don't mess with the setuid properties of programs that work
[06:26] <sharperguy> adaptr, when I try to use the mount gnome-toolbar it says smbmount must be installed suid root to mount samba shares
[06:26] <kanzie>  Im trying to find the best way to install Eclipse environment on my Ubuntu Edgy system. I want it for developing php and Java... any ideas?
[06:27] <adaptr> sharperguy: then you're missing a component
[06:27] <sharperguy> adaptr, such as?
[06:27] <adaptr> sharperguy: find out what smbmount is a part of, that will be the component :)
[06:28] <mikelo> does anybody here know how to read/convert .act sound files?
[06:28] <sharperguy> adaptr, its part of smbfs, which i have - i can mount shares if i run "sudo smbmount", but I know it can be done if i'm a normal user also
[06:29] <adaptr> sharperguy: oh... that sounds like a glitch in the poackage, then
[06:30] <sharperguy> adaptr, I seem to remember you have to do something to the command from a guide somewehre
[06:31] <rickympl> can anyone tell me y k3b and brasero are so slow when burning dvds
[06:31] <adaptr> sharperguy: well, the gnome-toolbar should be able to call the smb client libraries directly, and not need an external program.. I find it odd
[06:32] <sharperguy> when I click mount it says "smbmount must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000).
[06:32] <sharperguy> but i have to go anyway
[06:34] <Giona> have you seen this keynote video on youtube? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Uo_4kyrkDc&eurl=
[06:35] <Alan-D> Is somebody available to help me with a shared security question?
[06:37] <BULLE> how do i decide what deamons should start at boot, the gui app clearly is hardcoded for a few services, and the ones i want to alter are not there ?
[06:40] <animaniacx> hey
[06:40] <animaniacx> hello
[06:40] <animaniacx> wth
[06:40] <GarethMB> does anyone know if its possible to recover a file that was revised and saved?
[06:40] <animaniacx> i dunno
[06:40] <animaniacx> i nede help tpo
[06:40] <animaniacx> i cant get anything to installl
[06:41] <animaniacx> ill install ubunttu but after  that no applications will install
[06:41] <adaptr> animaniacx: how do you mean, "no apps will install" ? how did you *try* to install them ?
[06:41] <mdeboer> GarethMB: no, that's very unlikely...
[06:41] <noodles12> animaniacx:  are you doing "sudo apt-get install "
[06:41] <animaniacx> i went to the linux parts of sights and tryed to load them wat am i supposed to do?
[06:42] <peter__> installed breezy on my pc (mobo asrock K7S8X) some time ago....now installed edgy on it, but when it comes to usb detection on startup with an usb device plugged in, my pc freezes....when I plug in a usb device it's the same - system freeze...any idea?
[06:42] <noodles12> what are you trying to install?
[06:42] <adaptr> GarethMB: only if you're using a versioning system
[06:42] <animaniacx> im on another computer
[06:42] <adaptr> animaniacx: use synaptic; its under your system menu
[06:42] <animaniacx> cause java wont load
[06:42] <animaniacx> k
[06:42] <adaptr> !java
[06:42] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[06:42] <animaniacx> wait
[06:42] <chaks> hi all
[06:42] <animaniacx> i need to reboot
[06:43] <adaptr> hola chaks
[06:43] <animaniacx> its making weard beeps
[06:43] <chaks> upgraded dapper drake to edgy eft and pygtk is not working :(
[06:43] <BULLE> how do i decide what deamons should start at boot, the gui app clearly is hardcoded for a few services, and the ones i want to alter are not there ?
[06:43] <chaks> and any of the pygtk programs are not loading :(
[06:43] <chaks> hi adaptr
[06:43] <chaks> Long Live Ubuntu !
[06:43] <chaks> :)
[06:43] <animaniacx> yah
[06:43] <adaptr> chaks: what does your package manager say about the state of pygtk ?
[06:44] <chaks> adaptr: this is what i get - "python-gtk2 is already the newest version."
[06:44] <animaniacx> so how do i install again?
[06:44] <chaks> adaptr: and this while running apps - "ImportError: PyGTK requires PyGObject 2.11.1 or higher, but (2, 10, 1) was found"
[06:45] <noodles12> animaniacx: go to system >admin>software sources and check the 4 boxes
[06:45] <biggdoggg> can someone help me out I am trying to setup shared keys between two system the shared key works for the user root however when i generate a key for another user and try to authenticate using the shared key it does not work and it prompts for a password
[06:45] <adaptr> chaks: did you run apt-get -force ? you can force it to re-install
[06:45] <peter__> noone any experience with K7S8X boards n Edgy?
[06:45] <chaks> oh!..trying now
[06:45] <animaniacx> how do  i installl anything?
[06:45] <noodles12> system>admin>synaptics
[06:46] <animaniacx> then
[06:46] <noodles12> and then u search what you need
[06:46] <animaniacx> i dont get it
[06:46] <noodles12> and then clcik on it and then install
[06:46] <adaptr> biggdoggg: shared keys ? are we talking about ssh public key authentication here ? because that has nothing to do with *shared keys - the whole concept of public key authentication means nothing is shared
[06:46] <animaniacx> click on wat
[06:46] <noodles12> you search what you want
[06:47] <animaniacx> would java be there?
[06:47] <chaks> adaptr: am not getting the syntax, can you provide it :(
[06:47] <GarethMB> Well I'm screwed then. Ta for the replies
[06:47] <pdx__> i want to unzip a zip file to my wine fake folder how can i handle this?
[06:47] <pdx__> i want to unzip a zip file to my wine fake folder how can i handle this?
[06:47] <noodles12> you have to go to sources and click teh first 4 boxes
[06:47] <adaptr> chaks: I'll see, wait a sec
[06:47] <noodles12> !java
[06:47] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[06:47] <animaniacx> would java be in package manager?
[06:47] <animaniacx> k
[06:47] <animaniacx> ?
[06:47] <animaniacx> im lost
[06:47] <pdx__> i want to unzip a zip file to my wine fake folder how can i handle this?
[06:47] <noodles12> yes if you allow the multiverse repo
[06:48] <animaniacx> i did enable multiverse
[06:48] <noodles12> then go to synaptics manager and search for java
[06:48] <animaniacx> k
[06:49] <animaniacx> wat section would itt be in?
[06:49] <adaptr> chaks: what does dpkg -l python-gtk2 show ?
[06:49] <adaptr> chaks: mine is at 2.10.3-0ubuntu3
[06:49] <animaniacx> wat would java be under?
[06:49] <BULLE> so, no one here can tell me how to change what apps run in what runlevel ?
[06:49] <AmaroqWolf> pdx_, wine's drive C is lovated in ~/.wine/drive_c
[06:49] <noodles12> amke sure you install sun-java-jdk, -jre, -plugin
[06:50] <chaks> adaptr: mine is 2.10.3-0ubuntu3 - same
[06:50] <AmaroqWolf> *located
[06:50] <chaks> even alacarte is not loading
[06:50] <noodles12> search for java and scroll down to " sun-java-jdk
[06:50] <adaptr> BULLE: yes, of course - man update-rc.d for starters, come back with any questions
[06:50] <animaniacx> wat section it under?
[06:50] <adaptr> noodles12: jdk is not necessary for simple java fuctionality
[06:50] <chaks> adaptr: i also got this line - "Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
[06:50] <chaks> "
[06:51] <adaptr> chaks: as long as the first character is an "i "it is installed
[06:51] <adaptr> animaniacx: just click "search", okay
[06:51] <teitunge> what kind of gtk are you using?
[06:51] <noodles12> animaniacx: i don't know what section. i just used search. and as adaptr said you might not need jdk
[06:51] <chaks> adaptr: its "ii  python-gtk2"
[06:51] <adaptr> noodles12: no, I said he *doesn't* need jdk
[06:52] <animaniacx> oh and my wifi wont work
[06:52] <noodles12> adaptr: my bad
[06:52] <adaptr> !jdk
[06:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jdk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:52] <adaptr> pfft silly botty
[06:52] <BULLE> adaptr: so there is no working gui tool that just let me click ? , i have already tried bum, rcconf and the app included in buntu per default, and none manages to show all services installed, just some subset of them
[06:52] <noodles12> lol
[06:52] <adaptr> BULLE: go to system -> administration -> services, but that does not show you all of them, just the ones ubuntu gives you
[06:52] <adaptr> BULLE: and you need a GUI because ?
[06:53] <mikelo> does anybody here know how to read/convert .act sound files?
[06:53] <animaniacx|on|ot> was i looking 4 sun java?
[06:53] <BULLE> adaptr: im stupid
[06:53] <deepsa> no
[06:53] <Tomatix> Who ate my Ubuntu-cd?
[06:53] <adaptr> animaniacx|on|ot: that is sort ofthe standard, so yeah
[06:53] <riotkittie> Tomatix: i did. with a side of fava beans.
[06:53] <AmaroqWolf> How do I install support for avi files? I can play them, but I only hear sound and the screen in the player is black.
[06:53] <animaniacx|on|ot> awesome i found it
[06:53] <Tomatix> allright. =)
[06:53] <adaptr> an a nice chianti, I suppose
[06:54] <animaniacx|on|ot> i still got more probs though
[06:54] <adaptr> !multimedia | AmaroqWolf
[06:54] <ubotu> AmaroqWolf: For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[06:54] <animaniacx|on|ot> hey
[06:54] <riotkittie> adaptr: :>
[06:54] <BULLE> adaptr: no worries, i found sysv-rc-conf , and it actualy displays all services, and runlevels, in a nice way
[06:54] <animaniacx|on|ot> wats an free antivirus 4 ubuntu
[06:54] <adaptr> BULLE: I know
[06:54] <deepsa> who can help me with my sound/network problems with nvidia
[06:54] <adaptr> animaniacx|on|ot: why would you want one ?
[06:54] <Skyrail> I keep on getting this three times in a row when trying to work with files in the command prompt:  YPBINDPROC_DOMAIN: Domain not bound
[06:54] <adaptr> animaniacx|on|ot: get clamav
[06:54] <animaniacx|on|ot> dont you need one?
[06:54] <riotkittie> animaniacx|on|ot: there's clamav or avg
[06:55] <Skyrail> Any idea how to fix it?
[06:55] <mats> deepsa | nvidia
[06:55] <animaniacx|on|ot> wats the site?
[06:55] <deepsa> ahh. ya. adaptr i think you are the guy who can help me right
[06:55] <riotkittie> there's  a HOWTO on the forum for avg installation
[06:55] <adaptr> Skyrail: you have your name resolution misconfigured
[06:55] <animaniacx|on|ot> i tried avg wouldnt work
[06:55] <adaptr> animaniacx|on|ot: clamav does
[06:55] <mnemonik> org
[06:55] <slipttees> :(
[06:55] <deepsa> mats was sup
[06:55] <slipttees> http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/1302
[06:55] <animaniacx|on|ot> couldnt get it to install
[06:55] <slipttees> somebody help me?
[06:55] <slipttees> :(
[06:55] <adaptr> I sense a recurring theme here...
[06:56] <deepsa> yaa tell slip
[06:56] <riotkittie> there are kde and gnome frontends for clam.  i /think/ gnomes in avscan and kdes is klamscan but i cant swear to that
[06:56] <mats> ubotu: nvidia?
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <deepsa> mats lol
[06:56] <animaniacx|on|ot> yah
[06:56] <animaniacx|on|ot> i have nividea
[06:56] <animaniacx|on|ot> but no probs
[06:56] <mats> deepsa: nothing, just tried to get som info from the bot
[06:56] <deepsa> mats sound/network not working nvidia
[06:57] <riotkittie> there's also a good HOW-TO on the forums for installing clam
[06:57] <Total_noob> [Graphics Problem]  When ever i try run a 3d application i only ever get 3 fps max no matter what settings i put on but on windows i can get 60Fps on most apps i have an ATi Radeon 9550 graphics card
[06:57] <deepsa> clam sucks.
[06:57] <animaniacx|on|ot> ~!animaniacx
[06:57] <mats> ah, i read wrong ;)
[06:57] <verzonnen> Any one here using an "ASUS ATI radeon v9520x"?
[06:57] <animaniacx|on|ot> oops
[06:57] <chaks> adaptr: any help?
[06:57] <chaks> :(
[06:57] <adaptr> chaks: what app are you trying to run when that happens ?
[06:57] <Skyrail> adaptr: ok...what do you mean by that? I have been messing with a few files but I'm not sure what...to find out I'd have to search through some tutorials again, but any idea?
[06:57] <riotkittie> deepsa: why  do you say that?  i have not bothered installing an AV yet, so... :P
[06:58] <adaptr> Skyrail: which files did you "mess with" ?
[06:58] <verzonnen> A friend of mine is getting a kernel panick when booting
[06:58] <deepsa> verzonnen, he having sata hard drive
[06:58] <chaks> i am trying to run alacarte, automatix2
[06:58] <adaptr> chaks: okay.. wait a bit
[06:58] <chaks> they display error message stating that pygtk higher version is needed
[06:58] <slipttees> http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/1303
[06:59] <verzonnen> deepsa: asking him now
[06:59] <jrib> chaks: what version of ubuntu?
[06:59] <chaks> my python-gtk2 of edgy eft seems to not installed  , dpkg reports it to be half installed :(
[06:59] <chaks> edgy eft, jrib
[06:59] <chaks> i upgraded from dapper drake to edgy eft
[06:59] <verzonnen> deepsa: nope, its ATA
[06:59] <deepsa> ok
[06:59] <jrib> chaks: what happens when you try to install it
[06:59] <adaptr> chaks: alacarte isn;t even IN edgy anymore
[07:00] <jrib> adaptr: seems to be
[07:00] <chaks> i get this message when i run dpkg -l --> "| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed"
[07:00] <riotkittie> verzonnen: where is the kernel panicking?
[07:00] <chaks> for python-gtk2
[07:00] <Total_noob> Ok it seems to me that OpenGL apps wont work very well any ideas?
[07:00] <verzonnen> deepsa: during boot
[07:00] <adaptr> jrib: edgy specifically deleted it when I upgraded
[07:00] <ikonia> Total_noob more info please
[07:00] <Total_noob> ubotu: opengl
[07:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:00] <deepsa> verzonnen, use vista
[07:00] <jrib> !info alacarte | adaptr
[07:00] <ubotu> alacarte: easy menu editing. In component main, is optional. Version 0.10.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 73 kB, installed size 1136 kB
[07:00] <chaks> alacarte not there!..so how do i edit menu ??
[07:00] <riotkittie> vista <puke>
[07:01] <jinx099> Total_noob: What drivers are you using?
[07:01] <Total_noob> default ubuntu ones
[07:01] <verzonnen> deepsa: lol
[07:01] <jrib> Total_noob: were you able to update your usplash ok?
[07:01] <mag_> How can I get the list of all the usamba users ?
[07:01] <Total_noob> erm?
[07:01] <jinx099> Total_noob: That's probly the issue, try installing the nvidia or ATI drivers
[07:01] <Total_noob> im new to linux
[07:01] <Total_noob> ok how do i install the drivers
[07:01] <ikonia> Total_noob https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:01] <ikonia> loads of docs there
[07:01] <phr34ck> hey I'm having this error whenever I try to run sudo apt-get update
[07:01] <phr34ck> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:01] <Total_noob> last time i tryed that it didnt work and then it messed up X
[07:02] <jrib> chaks: what you pasted is just the dpkg "legend"
[07:02] <ikonia> Total_noob search the wiki I sent
[07:02] <ikonia> quality dos
[07:02] <Total_noob> ok
[07:02] <ikonia> docs
[07:02] <chaks> yes jrib, and there it shows that it is not installed properly with those messages
[07:02] <jrib> !nvidia | Total_noob
[07:02] <Skyrail> adaptr: give me a minute to find them lol, they were files to do with server stuff etc. so I had to add some lines with portmap etc. I'm not sure, I jsut followed the tutorials
[07:02] <ubotu> Total_noob: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:02] <ikonia> animaniacx is there any chance you'll say anything rather than keep doing /me
[07:02] <jrib> chaks: ok, in any case, what happens when you try to install
[07:03] <verzonnen> deepsa: it hangs at hardware detection
[07:03] <chaks> it tells already its the newest version, jrib
[07:03] <Total_noob> thanks
[07:03] <jrib> chaks: how about reinstall
[07:03] <phr34ck> hey I'm having this error whenever I try to run sudo apt-get update: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:03] <deepsa> verzonnen, problem with kernel. what version of kernel it is
[07:03] <adaptr> jrib: ah.. I see, they moved it to sys/prefs/menu layout, and removed it from applications altogether... I was right, dude :)
[07:03] <verzonnen> deepsa: he is using the latest install CD
[07:04] <jrib> adaptr: heh sure :)
[07:04] <chaks> i have done reinstallation using synaptic
[07:04] <chaks> :(
[07:04] <ikonia> phr34ck apt is already running probably
[07:04] <deepsa> verzonnen, dude tell me kernel version man
[07:04] <chaks> even now am doing jrib
[07:04] <phr34ck> ikonia, I checked top, nothing in there
[07:04] <chaks> let me check
[07:04] <verzonnen> deepsa: he has that same problem with ALL debian based distro's
[07:04] <adaptr> jrib: you're telling me that you have alacarte as a separate application ? because seriously, you don't
[07:04] <ikonia> phr34ck remove the lock file then
[07:04] <deepsa> verzonnen, maybe he needs a hardware upgrade then
[07:04] <adaptr> verzonnen: even Knoppix ?
[07:04] <phr34ck> ikonia, and I do that how ?
[07:04] <jrib> adaptr: all I claim, is the alacarte package exists in edgy
[07:05] <riotkittie> knoppix is deb based? ahh, you learn something every day.
[07:05] <ikonia> phr34ck remove the lock file mentioned in the error message
[07:05] <adaptr> jrib: yeha, but that's hardly the whole solution....
[07:05] <riotkittie> tho i probably knew that at one point.
[07:05] <jrib> chaks: pastebin result of  sudo aptitude reinstall python-gtk2
[07:05] <verzonnen> adaptr: he has not tried knoppix
[07:06] <verzonnen> deepsa: It is an upgrade and the vendor told him to use winblows
[07:06] <adaptr> verzonnen: he should then, as that's based on debian but runs almost anywhere
[07:07] <verzonnen> deepsa: I have already asked him to tryknoppix or mepis, thought some one here may have a better answer
[07:07] <[BTF] Chm0d> hey guys can you take a look at my fstab and see if anything is wrong?  I am just trying to install something via cdrom and I cannot get it to work. http://pastebin.ca/311232
[07:08] <verzonnen> can't blame me for trying ;)
[07:08] <Toblerone> hi
[07:08] <riotkittie> has he checked the hardware compatability lists?
[07:08] <apokryphos> hello
[07:08] <jrib> chaks: how did you upgrade btw?
[07:09] <chaks> jrib, i changed to sources.list to edgy's sources.list which i took from ubuntuguide.com
[07:09] <chaks> jrib, here is the pastebin - http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/855277
[07:09] <jrib> chaks: did you ensure you had ubuntu-desktop?
[07:09] <verzonnen> thanks guys, anyway for trying
[07:10] <XYTTY> !xdcc
[07:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xdcc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:10] <XYTTY> hi
[07:10] <jrib> chaks: it looks like a lot of stuff hasn't been upgraded.  Are all those packages still dapper versions?
[07:10] <Apfelstrudel> Hi Everyone
[07:11] <chaks> am not sure - none of my entries in sources.list has dapper in it
[07:11] <jrib> chaks: apt-cache policy x-window-system-core  for example
[07:11] <chaks> jrib, you are right - "The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:11] <chaks>   ubuntu-desktop: Depends: xorg but it is not going to be installed
[07:11] <chaks> E: Broken packages
[07:11] <chaks> "
[07:11] <chaks> tried installing ubuntu-desktop, now, how to rectify this?
[07:12] <Apfelstrudel> anybody here who can help me? If i try to login into GNOME ... everytime the login screen comes but not gnome ... can someone help me? Now im logged in with Live CD
[07:12] <ikonia> Apfelstrudel you don't have to login if your using the livecd
[07:12] <BigToe> How do you open a recovered document in openoffice? Where is it stored?
[07:13] <riotkittie> Apfelstrudel: is it freezing at the login screen, or are you being thrown into annother session?
[07:13] <jrib> chaks: before we proceed, it's recommended you upgrade using update-manager instead of manually.  It tends to prevent these things.  What does running 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' now prompt you about?
[07:13] <ikonia> BigToe depends on your setup
[07:13] <ikonia> and why it needs recovering
[07:13] <paul928> Apfelstrudel-do you have ubuntu-desktop installed?
[07:13] <Apfelstrudel> riokittie .... nothing freezes ... i log in .,.. screen will be black and i return to login
[07:13] <BigToe> ikonia, what type of things in my setup?
[07:14] <ikonia> BigToe your save path for eample
[07:14] <chaks> jrib, here is my sources.list - http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/855279
[07:14] <ikonia> BigToe why does it need recovering - what happened
[07:14] <riotkittie> Apfelstrudel: have you /ever/ been able to login to gnome?
[07:14] <Apfelstrudel> everything installed ... previous i installed xfc then after restart the problem comes
[07:14] <Apfelstrudel> yeah ... ubuntu is running since yesterday perfect
[07:14] <ikonia> Apfelstrudel there is the answer
[07:14] <ikonia> your desktop session is wrong
[07:14] <BigToe> ikonia, Openoffice froze, so I went away to wait for it to unfreeze, so I came back to the PC and it had closed
[07:14] <ikonia> its trying to login to a desktop session that doesn't exist
[07:15] <Apfelstrudel> how to repair it ???
[07:15] <BigToe> so I opened it again and the recovery wizard opened
[07:15] <BigToe> and repaired it
[07:15] <ikonia> BigToe normally /tmp
[07:15] <BigToe> ah
[07:15] <Apfelstrudel> but in session manager i have selected gnome
[07:15] <BigToe> thanks
[07:16] <phr34ck> guys, I have installed LAMP .. now what/
[07:16] <phr34ck> how can I use php?
[07:16] <chaks> jrib, here is the dist-upgrade - http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/855283
[07:16] <Apfelstrudel> How can i fix the problem? First time i use Linux
[07:16] <paul928> Apfelstrudelican you start xfce?
[07:17] <Apfelstrudel> No ... in Sessionmanager XFC isnt displayed
[07:17] <ikonia> he's borked the install
[07:18] <pike_> umpossible
[07:18] <jrib> chaks: you could try removing those packages and then installing them
[07:18] <paul928> Apfelstrudel-reboot and start in terminal (recovery) and type "startx" without quotes and see what happens.
[07:19] <Apfelstrudel> Okay ... think will be back in few minutes smile
[07:19] <chaks> jrib, which all packages?
[07:19] <chaks> the ones which show kept as hold?
[07:19] <jrib> chaks: yeah
[07:19] <riotkittie> if that fails, type "irssi -c irc.freenode.net" and then come back in here from your HD install
[07:20] <n2diy> phr34ck: http://www.lamphowto.com/lamp.htm
[07:20] <jrib> chaks: you have to try installing a package, look for clues in the error, if that fails try removing it and installing.  That's what I would do.  bbl
[07:20] <Total_noob> Hello i tryed to install the ATi driver following the instructions and it still hasnt worked.
[07:20] <Total_noob> Please help me
[07:21] <animaniacx> !play wii
[07:21] <animaniacx> oops
[07:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about play wii - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:21] <ikonia> Total_noob what instructions did you follow
[07:21] <chaks> ok jrib, thanks :), i can understand
[07:21] <Total_noob> the easy ones
[07:21] <cypher> how can i create adeb file with configration
[07:21] <konam> someone could tell me how to mount a partition ext3 with write and read permissions?
[07:21] <Total_noob> the install from Ubuntu repositories (easier) one
[07:21] <cypher> i can make it with dpkg
[07:22] <cypher> but no configuration file
[07:22] <cypher> any one know
[07:22] <riotkittie> time to get your hand dirty and try the hard one
[07:22] <Total_noob> me?
[07:22] <BigToe> how do I record sound? Audacity won't pick up my sound card while amarok is open, and i need to record from amarok because it's a live radio stream which is currently paused
[07:22] <AmaroqWolf> I've installed the packages in the multimedia guide. More of my players can play the avi files now, but there is still no video.
[07:22] <sleepy843> whats the command to see if I got xgl installed?
[07:23] <ikonia> Total_noob thats not what I asked - which document did you follow
[07:23] <phr34ck> !lamp
[07:23] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[07:23] <Total_noob> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d8c6fd05bce340dfc3ad483abf0e18997868540b-2
[07:23] <Total_noob> that one
[07:23] <ikonia> sleepy843 you should know if you have xgl installed
[07:23] <ikonia> Total_noob thats not the link I gave you
[07:23] <riotkittie> remember. you havent *really* used linux until you've ended up on the floor, curled in the fetal position ... and wept :P
[07:23] <Total_noob> someone gave me that
[07:24] <Total_noob> well until the ati bit
[07:24] <cypher> man thats wront
[07:24] <rh> hi test
[07:24] <ikonia> Total_noob what problem with the install
[07:24] <ikonia> does it fail
[07:24] <cypher> u havent used linux tell u get bang by windows
[07:24] <Total_noob> no it installs
[07:24] <paul928>  riotkittie-I just reinstall before I reach that point.
[07:24] <Total_noob> just it says this after install
[07:24] <Total_noob> $ fglrxinfo
[07:24] <Total_noob> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[07:24] <Total_noob> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[07:24] <Total_noob> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[07:24] <Total_noob> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)
[07:24] <riotkittie> paul928: aww, where's the fun in that :P
[07:25] <Total_noob> and it should be ATi card
[07:25] <ikonia> Total_noob thats not an error
[07:25] <AmaroqWolf> adaptr, I installed the packages I could find to install in that guide, and while they allowed more of my players to play avi files, none of them have video when they play the files.
[07:25] <Giona> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Uo_4kyrkDc   Keynote video on youtube!!!
[07:25] <paul928>  riotkittie-It's good practice...I'm now an exper reinstaller.
[07:25] <ikonia> Giona keynote on what ?
[07:25] <Total_noob> well how do i get it to use my ati card
[07:25] <ikonia> Total_noob your using it......
[07:25] <drkm> how can I connect to a device via MAC address rather than ip (with any service really) for example with ssh/
[07:26] <Total_noob> i cant be
[07:26] <ikonia> 12pm why
[07:26] <Total_noob> the 3d apps still wont run right
[07:26] <ikonia> Total_noob maybe driver errors
[07:26] <ikonia> drkm you can't really
[07:26] <Total_noob> ok one sec
[07:26] <Tower555> hello
[07:27] <rh> hello
[07:27] <rh> ?????????????//
[07:27] <k010> what the new vm player for linux native to linux? anyone know?
[07:27] <Tower555> has anyone here ever had any problems with amaya?
[07:27] <n2diy_> ! hi | rh
[07:27] <drkm> ikonia: well my ISP seems to be able to connect to my cable modem via mac address.. do you know how they would do it?
[07:27] <ubotu> rh: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:27] <ikonia> k010 what od you mean native
[07:27] <meuserj> k010, kvm
[07:27] <Total_noob> these mean anything to you? (EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENODEV"
[07:27] <Total_noob> (EE) fglrx(0): cannot init AGP
[07:27] <ikonia> drkm what makes you think they connect on mak
[07:27] <meuserj> k010, for "Kernel Virtual Machine"
[07:28] <paradizelost> hey all, anyone familiar with vmware workstation 6 on ubuntu?
[07:28] <Vuen> hey all, what can i use to rip audio cds to mp3?
[07:28] <k010> thats its kvm
[07:28] <drkm> ikonia: I phoned up they asked for the mac address on the cable modem, then said they had made some changes on it
[07:28] <k010> how good is it?
[07:28] <adaptr> AmaroqWolf: what are you using to play video ?
[07:28] <Total_noob> Ikonia: (EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENODEV"
[07:28] <Total_noob> (EE) fglrx(0): cannot init AGP
[07:28] <ikonia> drkm that means they map the mac to ip
[07:28] <k010> i use vmplayer dnt like it a whole lot
[07:29] <Total_noob> and (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
[07:29] <ikonia> Total_noob looks like driver can't use agpart
[07:29] <drkm> ikonia: ahh ok, how can I find out the IP for my cable modem?
[07:29] <ikonia> drkm ask you isp
[07:29] <Total_noob> so what do i do?
[07:29] <IntuitiveNipple> Useful Info: The Flash Player V9 beta works well with Firefox 2
[07:29] <ikonia> Total_noob don't know - I'm not up on ati
[07:29] <Total_noob> :(
[07:29] <Apfelstrude1> Im back
[07:29] <meuserj> k010, well, I've never used it, but have seen benchmarks... performance is very good, but you must have the right hardware (Must be an Intel processor with VT or an AMD processor with SVM)
[07:30] <Apfelstrude1> i become a few error messages ...
[07:30] <Tower555> I got this error message when opening Amaya 9.51 tyler@tyler-laptop:~$ amaya
[07:30] <Tower555> 01:23:46 PM: Deleted stale lock file '/home/tyler/.amaya-tyler'.
[07:30] <Tower555> (amaya:13160): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_set_colormap: assertion `!GTK_WIDGET_REALIZED (widget)' failed
[07:30] <Tower555> The program 'amaya' received an X Window System error.
[07:30] <Tower555> This probably reflects a bug in the program.
[07:30] <Tower555> The error was 'BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)'.
[07:30] <Tower555>   (Details: serial 5373 error_code 8 request_code 142 minor_code 5)
[07:30] <Tower555>   (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
[07:30] <Apfelstrude1> 2 if them are ....
[07:30] <Tower555>    that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
[07:30] <Tower555>    To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
[07:30] <Tower555>    option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
[07:30] <Tower555>    backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)
[07:30] <Tower555>  Can anybody help?
[07:30] <k010> meuserj, i haev the intel duo core
[07:30] <Apfelstrude1> Error Opening /dev/wacom no such file or directory
[07:30] <Apfelstrude1> 2nd ...
[07:31] <meuserj> k010, aparently xen has slightly better performance, but kvm is MUCH easier to set up since it can be installed as a kernel module (xen is a pain in the ass to get set up)
[07:31] <jlewis_> As a long time Red Hat user, trying out ubuntu for the first time, I have what's probably a silly question...but I'm used to being able to paste a URL anywhere in the main portion of a firefox window, and firefox loads the URL...in my Ubuntu 6.10 install I just did, nothing happens when I do that
[07:31] <adaptr> Apfelstrude1: just rip the wacom config out of yoru xorg.confg
[07:31] <meuserj> k010, intel core duo has VT.. so it will work.
[07:31] <adaptr> meuserj: VT being...what ?
[07:31] <k010> meuserj, nice thx mate
[07:31] <Apfelstrude1> waiting for XServer to shut down FreeFontPath: FPF "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc" refcount is 2, should 1; fixing.
[07:32] <Apfelstrude1> adaptr how to rip it?
[07:32] <Vuen> anyone? what can i use to rip mp3s? kaffeine rips to ogg, but it won't rip to mp3 even though i have lame installed.
[07:32] <adaptr> Apfelstrude1: te second error is nothing, you can ignore that
[07:32] <Mikey> im back, and i need more help
[07:32] <adaptr> Apfelstrude1: edit xorg.conf and delete the wacom lines
[07:32] <meuserj> adaptr, VT being hardware support for OS virtualization.. not sure what it stands for...
[07:32] <riotkittie> jlewis_:  is that a red hat thing? or perhaps a firefox extension?
[07:32] <k010> meuserj, and one more thing what is vt? virtual theads lol
[07:32] <n2diy_> jlewis_: what do you mean the "main portion"?
[07:32] <Mikey> ive got my wifi card working with no encrytpion, but it wont work with WPA, yes i tries the HoWTo
[07:32] <Apfelstrude1> adaptr with gedit?
[07:33] <IntuitiveNipple> Mikey: at least you're making progress :)
[07:33] <adaptr> Apfelstrude1: for instance, yes
[07:33] <Apfelstrude1> okay
[07:33] <rh> ignore that
[07:33] <rh> Mikey im back, and i need more help
[07:33] <rh> adaptr Apfelstrude1: edit xorg.conf and delete the wacom lines
[07:33] <rh> meuserj adaptr, VT being hardware support for OS virtualization.. not sure what it stands for...
[07:33] <rh> riotkittie jlewis_:  is that a red hat thing? or perhaps a firefox extension?
[07:33] <rh> k010 meuserj, and one more thing what is vt? virtual theads lol
[07:33] <Apfelstrude1> hope it works ;)
[07:33] <rh> n2diy_ jlewis_: what do you mean the "main portion"?
[07:33] <rh> * onthego (n=onthego@82-45-201-31.stb.ubr01.camd.blueyonder.co.uk) saiu de #ubuntu ("Leaving")
[07:33] <rh> Mikey ive got my wifi card working with no encrytpion, but it wont work with WPA, yes i tries the HoWTo ..................................>>>>>>>>>>.001011101010110110101010101000101010100101010101010010101010111101010010101010100010101010101010101010101011010101010110101010101010101010100
[07:33] <adaptr> rh: please stop tat
[07:33] <Mikey> IntuitiveNipple: yes making progress, although it appears i have partly defected hardware :(
[07:33] <riotkittie> srsly.
[07:34] <jlewis_> n2diy_: the portion of the window where web pages are displayed
[07:34] <XYTTY> >xytty sdg
[07:34] <green_earz> Vuen: you could install grip  to ripp mp3
[07:34] <Apfelstrude1> Ehrm ...
[07:34] <meuserj> k010, in a nutshell, VT in intel (and svm in amd) allows a program to run as a hypervisor with greater access to hardware, and can emulate hardware for guest os's... VT provides "Ring -1" without it, "Ring 0" is the lowest you can go.
[07:34] <Apfelstrude1> where to find xorg.conf ????
[07:35] <adaptr> Apfelstrude1: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:35] <Apfelstrude1> THX :)
[07:35] <Wimpog> GUYS, for DHCP, which of the dhcpd.conf files I need to change??? There is one in /etc, and there is one in /etc/dhcp...
[07:35] <n2diy_> jlewis_: on the page itself, or the address bar?
[07:35] <paul928> adaptr-he can't use gedit...his xserver won't start.
[07:36] <Mikey> use nano
[07:36] <AmaroqWolf> adaptr, I've tried totem, kaffiene, VLC, and XMMS. I've also tried Gzine and Mplayer.
[07:36] <jlewis_> n2diy_: on the page itself...skips having to clear the address bar before pasting
[07:36] <adaptr> paul928: okay, sorry - Apfelstrude1, just use sudo nano then
[07:36] <adaptr> AmaroqWolf: and all of them play some of them, right?
[07:36] <Apfelstrude1>  Driver         "wacom"
[07:36] <Apfelstrude1>     Option         "Device" "/dev/wacom"
[07:36] <Apfelstrude1> this 2 to delete???
[07:36] <n2diy_> jlewis_: ok, never heard of such a thing.
[07:36] <riotkittie> jlewis_: that sounds like a firefox extension. jlewis_ : do you still have your redhat install?
[07:36] <Apfelstrude1> paul928 im using live cd for restore
[07:37] <adaptr> Apfelstrude1: yes, those are tho nes, but the fact that it doesn't find them is not an error; it won't bother you
[07:37] <Wimpog> GUYS, for DHCP, which of the dhcpd.conf files I need to change??? There is one in /etc, and there is one in /etc/dhcp...
[07:37] <jlewis_> n2diy_: hmm...I've been doing it that way for years with Red Hat, Fedora, Centos
[07:37] <AmaroqWolf> Before, only totem played, but that had a black screen. I installed some stuff on that guide and now they all seem to be able to play, but all have a black screen.
[07:37] <adaptr> Apfelstrude1: no, you'll have to delete more than that
[07:37] <riotkittie> oh. apparently, its native behavior in RH then?
[07:37] <rh> rh
[07:37] <adaptr> AmaroqWolf: have you tried automatix ?
[07:37] <Apfelstrude1> adaptr so what too ?
[07:38] <bremer> halli hallo
[07:38] <AmaroqWolf> adaptr, no I havn't. What is that? Can I do an apt-get on it?
[07:38] <Mikey> WPA wont work, what can i do?
[07:38] <BULLE> Mikey: so, what are you using, in trying to get WPA to work ?
[07:38] <b08y_> hey guys, will eclipse 3.2 be ported back for dapper?
[07:38] <adaptr> Apfelstrude1: the name of the wacom config is also set in the server layout section; if you want to remove it (there is no reason to) then you have to remove that as well
[07:38] <n2diy_> jlewis_: ok, I've been using Debian based stuff since FC1
[07:38] <rh> you didnt work
[07:38] <adaptr> !automatix | AmaroqWolf
[07:38] <ubotu> AmaroqWolf: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:38] <BULLE> Mikey: i would suggest you use wpa_supplicant
[07:38] <adaptr> heheh
[07:38] <b08y_> eclipse!
[07:38] <riotkittie> am 98.92% sure there are some firefox extensions that allow for similar behavior, though i cannot think of them off hand.
[07:39] <b08y_> !eclipse
[07:39] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 412 kB
[07:39] <AmaroqWolf> o.o
[07:39] <MuerteT1> Wudup, folks
[07:39] <AmaroqWolf> I don't think I've used that.
[07:39] <adaptr> riotkittie: what behaviour
[07:39] <rh>  riotkittie: what behaviour
[07:39] <riotkittie> adaptr: the behavior jlewis_ is talking about
[07:39] <rh>  riotkittie: what behaviour
[07:39] <rh>  riotkittie: what behaviour
[07:39] <MuerteT1> I have a question. This has been driving me crazy. I've searched all over the net and have not been able to get any of the solutions to work.
[07:39] <rh>  riotkittie: what behaviour
[07:39] <AmaroqWolf> adaptr, as far as I know, I've only used the synaptic package manager, the add/remove applications, and apt-get.
[07:39] <adaptr> jeez you're irritating
[07:39] <ikonia> rh stop spamming
[07:39] <TheGateKeeper> !automatrix
[07:39] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:40] <riotkittie>  can someone ban that guy already? ;p
[07:40] <TheGateKeeper> AmaroqWolf, ^^^^
[07:40] <AmaroqWolf> ^^
[07:40] <Mikey> BULLE: im trying to edit /etc/network/interface file including the lines AuthMode=WPAPSK, EncrypType=TKIP, WPAPSK="mypass"
[07:40] <MuerteT1> Ubuntu 6.10, fresh install (as of last night). Is there ANY way to get dual head supported for my radeon 7500???? It seems everything works for radeon 8500 and above but the hacks I find for 7500 never do anything.
[07:40] <ikonia> Mikey so whats the problem
[07:40] <adaptr> AmaroqWolf: okay, well, I used to have problems with totem-gstreamer as well, but that's because it doesn't install the propr mods by default; search synaptic for gstreamer-0.10 plugins and add the ones you need
[07:41] <TheGateKeeper> AmaroqWolf, I am drawing your attention to the dangers of automatrix
[07:41] <ikonia> MuerteT1 dubious support
[07:41] <ikonia> more so on edgy with aixgl
[07:41] <meuserj> rh, why are you cutting and pasting parts of the chat?
[07:41] <cephlopod> Mikey: that should be in your /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[07:41] <adaptr> TheGateKeeper: ..which is not what it's called; who corrupted ubotu with that ?
[07:41] <MuerteT1> ikonia, eh?
[07:41] <macross> been googling this one for a while :  XORG_MANPAGE_SECTIONS: command not found
[07:41] <rh> teste
[07:41] <cephlopod> Mikey: not in the interfaces
[07:41] <MuerteT1> I'm fairly new. What's dubious support
[07:41] <macross> says my aclocal is not define but it is
[07:41] <adaptr> macross: what do you need ?
[07:41] <Mikey> cephlopod: ill have a look
[07:41] <ikonia> macross its not a command, its a variable
[07:41] <TheGateKeeper> adaptr, whatever
[07:41] <macross> trying to automake
[07:41] <ktulu-> !worksforme
[07:41] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[07:41] <macross> and i get that error
[07:42] <macross> ikonia i know that
[07:42] <ikonia> MuerteT1 ati drivers = bad in general, worse in aixgl even more with dual head
[07:42] <ikonia> macross so thats the problem ?
[07:42] <macross> i didn't type that out
[07:42] <macross>  XORG_MANPAGE_SECTIONS: command not found
[07:42] <ikonia> macross when do you get that
[07:42] <macross> that's the prob
[07:42] <macross> checking for waddstr in -lcurses... yes
[07:42] <macross> ./configure: line 32715: XORG_MANPAGE_SECTIONS: command not found
[07:42] <ikonia> macross what are you building
[07:42] <macross> xgl xserver
[07:42] <cephlopod> has anything changed in the fglrx driver between feisty and edgy?  my DRI broke in my upgrade.
[07:43] <ikonia> macross then you shoujld know the basics of software development and required variables
[07:43] <riotkittie> wow. thats a lot of lines :o
[07:43] <ikonia> cephlopod yup - tons
[07:43] <macross> ikonia was there a point to asking me questions
[07:43] <janimo> anyone with PPPOE/ADSL connection around willing to test something?
[07:43] <macross> sorry i wanted to compile and install something
[07:43] <MuerteT1> So are you talking about the ati driver installed by default in Ubuntu or all ati drivers in general?
[07:43] <macross> didn't eralize you had to take a fucking course to do anything
[07:43] <Kista_Ubuntu> Hello, I want to install Umbrello with apt-get but I my ubuntu does not find it, where do I have to update somewhere and how?
[07:43] <ikonia> macross there was a point to me response - but if you don't know anything about what your doing - its dangerous
[07:43] <macross> don't be an ass if you have something useful tell me
[07:43] <protocol2> cephlopod, are you using an ATI card?
[07:43] <macross> if not
[07:43] <macross> shut up
[07:43] <cowbud> macross: well you can't just blindly jump into something then when you get stuck expect magical irc gods to help you out use google and shit be a little more self sufficient
[07:43] <ikonia> macross before you build software it is helpful to know the basics
[07:44] <macross> i do
[07:44] <ikonia> cowbud perhare for a flaming
[07:44] <macross> and i solved all other dependancies
[07:44] <ikonia> macross its clear you don't
[07:44] <ikonia> thats a simple warning
[07:44] <macross> how's that
[07:44] <PriceChild> calm down cowbud macross
[07:44] <macross> what makes that clear
[07:44] <cephlopod> protocol2: yeah, x1600, fglrx driver/module seem to be loaded - just no DRI support
[07:44] <ikonia> macross XORG_MAN_PAGES - hmmm what could it want
[07:44] <macross> i set the aclocal variable and it can't find the m4 files obviously
[07:44] <Kista_Ubuntu> Hello, I want to install Umbrello with apt-get but I my ubuntu does not find it, where do I have to update somewhere and how? Is a list somewhere?
[07:45] <protocol2> cephlopod, I have an ATI all in wonder 9800 Pro.......what would be the best setup to use?
[07:45] <macross> ikonia it's the m4 functions to build it wants
[07:45] <ikonia> Kista_Ubuntu make sure you have the right repo's enabled
[07:45] <Jowi> !info umbrello
[07:45] <ubotu> umbrello: UML modelling tool and code generator. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1982 kB, installed size 5480 kB
[07:45] <cowbud> macross: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131659
[07:45] <riaal> I just installed Wireless Assistant, how do I start it whit sudo?
[07:45] <n2diy> ! repos | Kista_Ubuntu
[07:45] <ubotu> Kista_Ubuntu: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:45] <Jowi> Kista_Ubuntu, it's in the universe repository. read the link that ubotu just gave you on how to activate it
[07:45] <cephlopod> protocol2: setup?  like xorg.conf?
[07:45] <Kista_Ubuntu> ikonia:  thanks but I have forgotten it, do you have a tip how to do it to update my repos?
[07:46] <ikonia> Kista_Ubuntu 3 people sent you links
[07:46] <ikonia> 2 of them are on screen still
[07:46] <MuffY> a quick question, how do you actually compile a simple c file? (K&R says: "type cc filename.c", but this will give me an error saying stdio.h isn't there, that probably meanse i'll have to save the .c files to some other location?
[07:46] <Mikey> cephlopod: /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf isnt there
[07:46] <macross> thnx cowbud i had installed automake-1.9 already though
[07:46] <riaal> pleas, how to start Wiereless Assistant whit root priv...?
[07:46] <Kista_Ubuntu> ok thanks, be right back
[07:46] <ikonia> MuffY http://www.tldp.org - has the basis on building software
[07:46] <protocol2> well ubuntu selected the ATI driver for me by default and it has 3d acceleration....but Im curious as to if I can get better drivers
[07:46] <elyon225> Could someone give me a hand installing the MTP libraries?
[07:47] <MuffY> ikonia: i'll take a look =)
[07:47] <ikonia> riaal it should ask your for a password when you start
[07:47] <macross> see here :  XORG_RELEASE_VERSION: command not found
[07:47] <riaal> ikonia: it doesn't
[07:47] <macross> it's missing the .m4 release version file
[07:47] <riaal> how do I make a shortcut whit sudo.. don't remember
[07:47] <ikonia> macross are you sure they are m4's its looking for and not just variables to be extracted from another global m4 script
[07:48] <Slart> riaal: if it's an application you could always run it from terminal with sudo in front
[07:48] <macross> yeah
[07:48] <meuserj> Muffy, that just means you don't have the stdio header files installed...
[07:48] <MuerteT1> Does anyone know how to get my radeon 7500 working with dual head? Nothing I've tried works. The fglrx drivers seem to only support radeon 7500 and above and the radeon drivers did nothing for me
[07:48] <Slart> riaal: or use gksudo for a more graphical sudo
[07:48] <ikonia> macross what makes you strongly sure its M4 (not challanging - asking)
[07:48] <macross> prolly global variable in a file that's missing
[07:48] <MuffY> meuserj: i guessed that, but it's a standard library, shouldn't it come with gcc?
[07:48] <ikonia> MuerteT1 I've told you the situation
[07:48] <macross> from all the googling i did that's only thing i've found
[07:48] <cowbud> macross: have you even bothered to look in the configure script to see what is around that variable?
[07:48] <ikonia> MuffY gcc is a compiler - not a headers package
[07:48] <MuffY> i checked it in the package manager, and gxcc is there (at least it says so :P)
[07:48] <ikonia> macross I think its wrong
[07:49] <meuserj> MuffY, it is in libc6-dev
[07:49] <macross> yup cowbud
[07:49] <macross> and i tried to cahnge it
[07:49] <cowbud> macross: well?
[07:49] <riaal> Slart, I don't know the name of it? : sudo "wireless assistant" doesn't work
[07:49] <macross> make sure it was pointing to my dir
[07:49] <MuerteT1> ikonia: dubious support, right? Does that mean I should just go get another card?
[07:49] <MuffY> :O
[07:49] <ikonia> MuerteT1 if its doesn't work - your screwed
[07:49] <meuserj> MuffY, if you install "build-essential" you should get everything...
[07:49] <cowbud> macross: you did this? sudo apt-get install build-essential automake1.9 libtool x11proto-* libgl1-mesa-dev makedepend libxxf86vm-dev libexpat1-dev libexpat1 libxmu-dev xtrans-dev libpng-dev libxcomposite-dev libxfixes-dev libxdamage-dev libxrandr-dev libxrender-dev libstartup-notification0-dev libgconf2-dev
[07:49] <Slart> riaal: hehe.. no, I guess that wont work.. I don't really know then..
[07:49] <MuerteT1> ikonia: gotcha
[07:49] <macross> yeah way in beggining of install
[07:50] <cowbud> macross: and how do you know making sure it is pointing to your directory is the proper action?
[07:50] <MuerteT1> thank
[07:50] <ikonia> MuerteT1 sorry - thats just how it is
[07:50] <ikonia> MuerteT1 try 6.0.6
[07:50] <riaal> How do I make a shortcut that makes a program run as root?
[07:50] <MuerteT1> understood
[07:50] <ikonia> its not as bleeding edge
[07:50] <cowbud> macross: yah well start from the beginning again as in rerun that redownload the source re-extract etc.
[07:50] <MuffY> meuserj: ok, i'll have a look at the package manager
[07:50] <ikonia> cowbud I don't think it wants M4
[07:50] <Slart> riaal: why do you have to start it with root privs btw?
[07:50] <ikonia> I'm reading through the configure script now
[07:50] <riaal> dound it, thanks all
[07:50] <macross> thnx i will try
[07:50] <riaal> found*
[07:51] <ikonia> macross FYI: the way its testing for those variables in the configure script is nothing to do with M4
[07:51] <ikonia> that may save you some time
[07:51] <cowbud> ikonia: I never said it did
[07:51] <macross> already newest on all of those cowbud except libpng which is replaced by libpng12
[07:51] <UberFission> hey can anyone help me with partitioning a new drive?
[07:52] <ikonia> cowbud no but macross did - I thought you where assiting down the m4 path
[07:52] <cowbud> ikonia: ahh
[07:52] <Slart> UberFission: sure, what's the problem?
[07:52] <ikonia> macross why would it be a version thing ?
[07:52] <ikonia> its complaining about a missing variable
[07:52] <macross> i didn't say it was a version thing
[07:52] <macross> cowbud recmmended i be certain i had the latest packages installed
[07:52] <ikonia> macross look at how the configured script is testing for the variable - it gives a big clue
[07:53] <MuffY> meuserj: woo, that did it, thank you very much
[07:53] <meuserj> MuffY, np
[07:53] <UberFission> slart: i'm not sure if i can format a new drive without using a livecd, and i don't know where mine is
[07:53] <macross> aclocaldir = $(datadir)/aclocal -I /usr/share/aclocal-1.9/
[07:53] <Slart> UberFission: you have bought a second hard drive, installed it in your computer?
[07:53] <Mikey> where can i install wpa_supplicant from, bearing in mind that i got no wireless
[07:53] <mdonahoe> hey i just upgraded to edgy...noticed that my wireless card doesn't update the ESSID list, in fact it's blank...it does work
[07:53] <UberFission> slart: correct
[07:54] <Slart> UberFission: running Ubuntu? 6.10?
[07:54] <UberFission> slart: yep
[07:54] <Mikey> is wpa_supplicant on the ubuntu alt CD?
[07:54] <Slart> !gparted | UberFission
[07:54] <ubotu> UberFission: gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[07:54] <k010> anyone know if kvm will be able on the ubuntu repos?
[07:54] <ikonia> k010 its not supported in the current kernels
[07:55] <Slart> UberFission: install gparted.. it will partition and format. All in a nice gui
[07:55] <UberFission> okay
[07:55] <UberFission> let me try it real quick
[07:55] <mdonahoe> yea gparted is an amazing program
[07:55] <Slart> UberFission: I'm not going anywhere.. go ahead and try it
[07:56] <MuffY> mwhahaha, my 1337 program is working!
[07:57] <MuffY> it prints out the squares of the numbers 0 to 10
[07:57] <MuffY> :p
[07:57] <riotkittie> ph33r
[07:57] <macross>  for i in [1-10]  do  p = $i * $i ; echo $p
[07:58] <sheriff_> hi to everybody, i am looking for an application which converts wav to mp3, is there any app. like that for ubuntu?
[07:58] <ikonia> macross you do know there is #ubuntu-xgl that specialises in ubuntu on xgl
[07:58] <MuffY> macross: no, it's in C!
[07:58] <MuffY> :P
[07:58] <Slart> sheriff_: I'm almost sure there is.. have you done a search in synaptic?
[07:58] <ikonia> macross just FYI
[07:58] <macross> oh really ikonia ? thnx very much
[07:58] <Mikey> sheriff_: try mplayer
[07:58] <ikonia> macross yeah, some good guys in there
[07:58] <MuffY> (i was just trying to see if i could make any program at all run)
[07:58] <sheriff_> Slart: i have done it on google
[07:59] <Slart> sheriff_: check out sound converter.. I haven't used it myself
[07:59] <sheriff_> Mikey: does it convert?
[07:59] <macross> thnx i get short when ppl assume i have researched i had a ton of snags today compiling got by em all this is the last one i think
[07:59] <Slart> !soundconverter | sheriff_
[07:59] <ubotu> soundconverter: convert sound files to other formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 48 kB, installed size 300 kB
[07:59] <macross> funny i just need to write manpages for the server tis all hehe
[07:59] <UberFission> slart: thank you
[07:59] <macross> er haven't
[07:59] <Slart> UberFission: it worked as expected?
[07:59] <Slart> UberFission: you're welcome
[08:00] <The_Machine> Could someone please tell what kind of partition (data) recovery software for linux would be?  Kind of like how there is "EasyRecovery Professional" For windows?  I have a FAT32 partition that someone formatted on me and i need to recover the data from it.
[08:00] <Mikey> sheriff_: i havent used it on audio, but it can output in different formats, but maybe this isnt what you want
[08:00] <LjL> !testdisk | The_Machine
[08:00] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.4.1-1 (edgy), package size 459 kB, installed size 1232 kB
[08:00] <UberFission> slart: it's working perfectly
[08:00] <ikonia> The_Machine depends on what the software wants
[08:00] <BigToe> !frostwire
[08:00] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[08:00] <The_Machine> thanks LjL
[08:00] <The_Machine> ikonia: what the software wants?
[08:01] <ikonia> The_Machine sorry I've miss-read your question
[08:01] <LjL> The_Machine: i don't think it's like terribly "easy" to use though, assuming EasyRecovery is
[08:01] <For> hey i have ubunto ot my other machine but my internet is wiress i i just can't connect it..
[08:01] <riotkittie> can anyone suggest a decent linux /book/ ? i know there is a wealth of information available in the form of man pages, how-tos and other docs ... but sometimes, a girl just wants a book.
[08:01] <ikonia> The_Machine backup file systems in stead of partition
 can anyone suggest a decent linux /book/ ? i know there is a
[08:01] <ikonia> oops
[08:01] <ikonia> sorry
[08:01] <Mikey> so anyways, any idea how to fix WPA ? wpa_supplicant? where can i get it from
[08:01] <pike_> MuffY: another for ya http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/8558/punitionis8.jpg
[08:01] <riotkittie> you cant exactly curl up in bed with a .pdf ;p
[08:01] <cowbud> tasty
[08:01] <cowbud> yummy
[08:01] <MuffY> but all the linux sites warned you, linux is not a windows replacement :P
[08:01] <cowbud> ohh MY
[08:01] <ikonia> riotkittie what sort of book
[08:02] <HymnToLife> riotkittie, to learn whar ?
[08:02] <jpjacobs> !rute|riotkittie
[08:02] <ubotu> riotkittie: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[08:02] <HymnToLife> what*
[08:02] <MuffY> pike_: yay! i saw that one once, but i never found it again :(
[08:02] <LjL> riotkittie: uhm, actually, i can and i do... i have a Psion.
[08:02] <MuffY> pike_: ty very much :)
[08:02] <rh> tem algem que fale em PTB ai
[08:02] <rh> ?
[08:02] <LjL> !pt | rh
[08:02] <ubotu> rh: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[08:02] <n2diy> riotkittie: http://rute.2038bug.com/rute.html.gz
[08:02] <Mikey> pike_: welcome back :)
[08:02] <MuffY> pike_ is famous? :O
[08:03] <The_Machine> so..  data recovery of a formatted FAT32 partition..  not really easy at all with linux?
[08:03] <Slart> The_Machine: testdisk didn't work?
[08:03] <ikonia> The_Machine from what point of failure ?
[08:03] <jpjacobs> The_Machine, it is possible
[08:03] <variant> The_Machine: exceptionaly easy, depending on the kind of data and kind of problem
[08:03] <jpjacobs> depends on how you lost it
[08:03] <LjL> err, it got formatted
[08:03] <The_Machine> someone intentionally formatted it
[08:03] <LjL> i think he said that
[08:03] <variant> The_Machine: is there a valid partition table?@
[08:04] <The_Machine> yeah, it shows there's a fat32 partition table
[08:04] <jpjacobs> hehe... try gpart and testdisk
[08:04] <IntuitiveNipple> The_Machine: Is the File Allocation Table still intact?
[08:04] <The_Machine> almost like they A)  Deleted the partition
[08:04] <variant> should be easy enough to restore the old partition layout
[08:04] <Slart> quickformatted? he asked hopefully =)
[08:04] <The_Machine> and then B)  made a new one and formatted - OR
[08:04] <IntuitiveNipple> If the FAT is intact, you can reconstruct the file chains
[08:04] <variant> The_Machine: what kind of data is it? images/audio?
[08:04] <The_Machine> they just formatted what was on there with a boot disk of some kind..
[08:04] <erUSUL> The_Machine: check this utility it maight help http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec
[08:04] <The_Machine> variant: an employee of ours has been lying about what she has on her PC
[08:04] <jpjacobs> The_Machine, gpart and/or testdisk are nice to get things back
[08:04] <The_Machine> i think she's actually stealing our data, etc
[08:04] <floppyears> hi
[08:05] <LjL> erUSUL, photorec is included as part of the testdisk package
[08:05] <The_Machine> when i asked her to send me her PC, she had it too long of a time, then sent me the computer like this
[08:05] <floppyears> is the book "the cathedral and the bazaar" available as a pdf ?
[08:05] <stonarmusic> I used to use litestep for windows, and they had a feature where you could move the mouse to the edge of the screen and it would jump to the next workspace, does ubuntu/gnome have anything like that?
[08:05] <variant> The_Machine: well it's probably best not to try and restore the partitions and just recover the data instead
[08:05] <The_Machine> anyway
[08:05] <The_Machine> right
[08:05] <variant> The_Machine: if you restore the partitions you might overwrite some of the data
[08:05] <erUSUL> LjL: good to know, thanks for the info ;)
[08:05] <The_Machine> i guess i do want to recover the data..
[08:05] <The_Machine> right
[08:05] <elyon225> Has anyone gotten Amarok to work with MTP devices?  I've install libusb and libmtp, but I still can't get it working.
[08:05] <Slart> elyon225: MTP devices? what is MTP?
[08:06] <AnAnt> how can I connect to a certain host using ssh without having to enter the passphrase everytime ?
[08:06] <variant> elyon225: works with my ipod nano out of the box
[08:06] <variant> Slart: music transfer protocal
[08:06] <The_Machine> wish i could hire actual forensics
[08:06] <LjL> The_Machine, just give testdisk a go, you'll have to read a bit of documentation, but it should be able to do it. failing that... well try windows software ;)
[08:06] <variant> The_Machine: check out magic-rescue
[08:06] <elyon225> variant: MEDIA transfer protocol, actually ;)
[08:06] <The_Machine> interesting
[08:06] <ikonia> AnAnt ssh-add
[08:06] <The_Machine> i'll do that LjL
[08:06] <rh> no da certo para #ubuntu-br
[08:06] <jpjacobs> The_Machine, do you have enough space on another partition to do a full dump of the lost one?
[08:06] <Slart> variant, elyon225: eh.. ok.. used for what? ipod?
[08:06] <rh> por que sera que no esta dando certo?
[08:06] <variant> Slart: amoungst others
[08:06] <The_Machine> not on this machine, no
[08:06] <rh> ta dando erro
[08:06] <variant> The_Machine: wait
[08:06] <Slart> variant: ok.. thanks
[08:06] <elyon225> Slart: I have a Sansa e260, actually... but its close to an iPod
[08:06] <The_Machine> though i could put it in a USB enclosure or something
[08:07] <jpjacobs> The_Machine, can you pull it over the network?
[08:07] <elyon225> variant: Did you need to enter some special mount string?
[08:07] <jpjacobs> also fine
[08:07] <variant> The_Machine: The_Machine what kind of data is it?
[08:07] <The_Machine> well, i can boot into knoppix on the machine
[08:07] <variant> elyon225: no, i just put it in and amarok detected it
[08:07] <LjL> rh, eu no comprendo lo que dices. no podes entrar em #ubuntu-br?
[08:07] <The_Machine> variant: the whole OS..  i mean, i don't know.  THere's something our employee is hiding from us.
[08:07] <LjL> rh, escribe /join #ubuntu-br
[08:07] <elyon225> hmm
[08:07] <The_Machine> she's a new acquisition of our company and there's all sort of politics and drama
[08:07] <The_Machine> i'm just the IT guy in the middle
[08:07] <The_Machine> asked to restore whatever there was!
[08:07] <The_Machine> :)
[08:07] <AnAnt> ikonia: thanks
[08:08] <elyon225> variant: When I plug mine in, absolutely nothing in Linux happens to indicate I've even hooked anything up.
[08:08] <variant> The_Machine: in that case recovering the parititon table might be better. what i would do first is make an exact backup of the disk to an image first and work with the image NOt the disk it's self
[08:08] <variant> elyon225: what ubuntu version?
[08:08] <The_Machine> like clone what's there?
[08:08] <elyon225> variant: Edgy
[08:08] <variant> The_Machine: exactly
[08:08] <Slart> The_Machine: this is starting to sound interesting.. can we hope for a webcast tv show.. perhaps get Tom Cruise to play the IT-dude :)
[08:08] <The_Machine> i've never done that before - great idea though
[08:08] <jpjacobs> The_Machine, there is dd :)
[08:08] <The_Machine> Slart: are you calling me fat?
[08:09] <The_Machine> i am, but that isn't the point.
[08:09] <The_Machine> heh
[08:09] <Slart> The_Machine: ouch.. no offence there.. haven't seen Tom in a while... =)
[08:09] <The_Machine> ehehe
[08:09] <DiMiTRiS> I would like to ask if a thinkpad t60 is a good choice to go for ubuntu or if i should consider another laptop brand to have ubuntu working (almost) out of the box
[08:09] <The_Machine> alright, how to clone this fat32 partition in order to transfer it over the network?
[08:09] <The_Machine> ouch, actually
[08:09] <The_Machine> i don't have room on this PC to do it
[08:09] <MuffY> The_Machine: ah well, that harddrive has a FAT32 partition, so it doen matter if you're only 1*FAT =p
[08:09] <The_Machine> i could stick it in another one i guess..  hrm..
[08:09] <IntuitiveNipple> The_Machine: take a look at this: http://www.forensicswiki.org/wiki/Tools#Forensics_Live_CDs
[08:09] <variant> DiMiTRiS: thinkpad t60 has some of the best free software support
[08:09] <The_Machine> MuffY: =)  haha
[08:10] <The_Machine> IntuitiveNipple: !!!
[08:10] <The_Machine> sounds really interesting
[08:10] <AnAnt> ikonia: it says : Could not open a connection to your authentication agent.
[08:10] <DiMiTRiS> variant, thnx i am a big fan of thinkpads but i wanted to be sure that ubuntu would play nice :-)
[08:10] <jpjacobs> The_Machine, if you're looking for a good alaround admin and forensics livecd, take a look at grml
[08:11] <variant> DiMiTRiS: you can do stuff with linux/thinkpads that windows can't do
[08:11] <ikonia> AnAnt I think you need sshd running on your client box too
[08:11] <AnAnt> ikonia: why's that ?
[08:11] <elyon225> variant: I've run mtp-detect and it detects my mp3 player... but Amarok still doesn't.
[08:11] <ikonia> AnAnt not sshd - sorry - ssh-agent
[08:11] <riaal> what does "Ad-Hoc" mean when talking about wierless networks
[08:12] <riotkittie> i meant. like... tangible book.  :P
[08:12] <variant> DiMiTRiS: check this out: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/os-linuxthinkpad/index.html
[08:12] <gili> question: i just deleted something from the trash is there anyway to recover
[08:12] <n2diy> riotkittie: did you look at the Rute manual?
[08:12] <DiMiTRiS> variant, thnx again!
[08:12] <Slart> riaal: connect.. eh.. not in an ordered fashion.. hard to describe.. but it doesn't connect to a base.. but also to other wireless clients..
[08:12] <edgy> riaal: I think it means to connect two computers without a wireless router
[08:13] <Slart> gili: if you're using ext2, there is.. I don't know about other fs
[08:13] <jpjacobs> riaal, it means you just tunnel averything to from whatever to whatever, and thus creating a wireless mesh like thing
[08:13] <jpjacobs> tunnel is not really right, more like routing, or forwarding packets
[08:13] <Mikey> im sorry to ask again: where can i get the wpa_supplicant  to connect to WPA netwpek
[08:13] <gili> slart: i am using ext2
[08:13] <variant> elyon225: i will have to start mylaptop to tell you what to do.. gimmie 10 mins
[08:13] <riaal> jpjacobs, so its not a router or gateway.. more like a client?
[08:13] <gili> what is the procedure///
[08:14] <Slart> gili: oh.. then there are some software... hold on.. I'll check
[08:14] <jpjacobs> its a client and router... let me look up a url for you...
[08:14] <elyon225> variant: Eh, don't worry about it.  I've got to leave for work.  But thank you.
[08:14] <variant> elyon225: np
[08:14] <AnAnt> ikonia: ok, thanks
[08:14] <Slart> !e2undel | gili
[08:14] <ubotu> e2undel: Undelete utility for the ext2 file system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-8 (edgy), package size 49 kB, installed size 212 kB
[08:14] <Slart> !recover | gili
[08:14] <ubotu> recover: Undelete files on ext2 partitions. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3c-10 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 108 kB
[08:14] <AmaroqWolf> Hmm... adaptr, while searching my synaptic, I came across a package called avifile-win32-plugin. I'm going to try that.
[08:14] <LjL> won't work with ext3 AFAIK
[08:14] <gili> ok thanks
[08:15] <jpjacobs> riaal, take a look at this :  http://www.mitre.org/work/tech_transfer/mobilemesh/
[08:15] <IntuitiveNipple> The_Machine: This is more complicated but I used this on a data recovery job for the police http://www.sleuthkit.org/sleuthkit/
[08:15] <Slart> gili: there's two programs.. I haven't used them myself.. I used ext3, that isn't quite as forgiving.. good luck
[08:15] <riotkittie> n2diy: no, not yet. i am sure that it is lovely...
[08:15] <jpjacobs> The_Machine, there is a frontend to the sleuthkit: autopsy, really good !
[08:15] <n2diy> riotkittie: it is, and it is online too.
[08:16] <Slart> grml looked kind of nice.. I think I'll add that to the emergency box
[08:16] <jpjacobs> :)
[08:17] <angstmachine> hi all!
[08:17] <whiteelfis> hi all
[08:17] <whiteelfis> i'm trying this type of help...
[08:17] <riotkittie> hi whiteelfis
[08:17] <riaal> jpjacobs: I scanned my new appartment for open networks and found on Ad-Hoc to be open. Don't think I have anyone in this hose that knows anything about competers, why do you think an Ad-hoc network is up ? =S
[08:17] <The_Machine> man
[08:17] <The_Machine> i'm looking up all of this stuff, and none of it is nice and easy heh..
[08:17] <ikonia> riaal someone has a laptop with a wirless card turned on
[08:17] <The_Machine> not that i exactly expect it to be..
[08:18] <IntuitiveNipple> Its not supposed to be easy lol
[08:18] <jpjacobs> riaal, dunno, maybe a virus on a windows pc trying to get airborn? :p
[08:18] <AmaroqWolf> adaptr, it's no use. I've installed so many things and I still can't view video on a dumb avi. one of my players did say it's divx5, so I installed some divx packages too, but still nothing.
[08:18] <riaal> ikonia: oh, that explains it =)
[08:18] <cowbud> The_Machine: wtf you talking about
[08:18] <einPaule> can anyone recommend a binary usenet program in linux?
[08:18] <Slart> The_Machine: nice and easy don't look good on CSI =)
[08:18] <riaal> jpjacobs: =)
[08:18] <whiteelfis> ?!?!?
[08:18] <Giona> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Uo_4kyrkDc  Keynote video on youtube!!!
[08:18] <The_Machine> Slart: understood
[08:18] <edgy> Hi, I am using konsole in ubuntu and when I type arabic it's just question marks though I can type arabic in any text editor properly. any hint?
[08:18] <IntuitiveNipple> I recommend you take an image of the drive using a liveCD and a network connection, then work on it on a linux PC
[08:18] <jpjacobs> The_Machine, it is quite easy, and if you first make the image you can mess around with that as much as you like
[08:18] <angstmachine> anyone have any advice for boosting the overall audio output on my comp? the volume just won't go high enough!
[08:18] <cowbud> who the hell awnts to watch 1 1/2 hours of steve jobs
[08:18] <ikonia> Giona either stop posting that url or explain why its related to ubuntu
[08:19] <The_Machine> what should i use to make the image?
[08:19] <riotkittie> i bet steve jobs wouldnt mind watching 90 minutes of steve jobs
[08:19] <The_Machine> riotkittie: lol
[08:19] <IntuitiveNipple> well, you could pipe dd through gzip :)
[08:19] <ikonia> angstmachine get an amp, better speakers?
[08:19] <IntuitiveNipple> How big is the volume thats been formatted?
[08:19] <jpjacobs> The_Machine, use dd and tunnel it over the net with ssh or netcat
[08:19] <n2diy> edgy, take a look at man loadkeys.
[08:19] <The_Machine> i just shut off the PC..  doh..
[08:20] <riaal> Im not up to trying but in curious, anyone here ever "hacked" a WEP key?
[08:20] <The_Machine> what you guys are describing is still above my current experience level.  Not to say i don't understand the concepts, but the implementation isn't like *snap*
[08:20] <angstmachine> ikonia: an amp app? it's loud enough if i boot in windows, so my speakers are fine...
[08:20] <The_Machine> I have ssh set up, but i wouldn't know how to begin what you guys are talking about
[08:20] <The_Machine> i think
[08:20] <The_Machine> unfortuantely
[08:20] <ikonia> Giona what has that you tube URL got to do with ubuntu
[08:20] <IntuitiveNipple> anst, are you running Edgy ?
[08:20] <The_Machine> i start out w/ a windows app until i can learn linux better.
[08:20] <The_Machine> :/
[08:20] <ikonia> angstmachine sound drivers may not be as good
[08:20] <angstmachine> nipple: yup.
[08:21] <ikonia> Giona are you alive or a bot
[08:21] <IntuitiveNipple> angst, i had the same issue and its simple to fix... on the menu go System > Administration > Services
[08:21] <IntuitiveNipple> angst: and enable "Audio Settings Management" - for me the volume instantly snapped up
[08:22] <gili> can you tell me how to use recover?
[08:22] <miranda82> hi people
[08:22] <gili> do ihave to unmount the system?
[08:22] <ikonia> is there an op awake, I don't really want to call for one
[08:22] <jpjacobs> The_Machine, here's another link for you http://www.lnx4n6.be it explains stuff like pulling images over a net
[08:22] <mike__> is there a general ubuntu irc chat?
[08:22] <mike__> Not simply for support?
[08:22] <IntuitiveNipple> mike__:  Xchat
[08:22] <Slart> gili: I have no idea.. I haven't used it... have you read the man page? (man recover)
[08:22] <zelda> can someone help me install my gfx card. Its an Ati
[08:22] <IntuitiveNipple> oh, you mean a *channel* ?
[08:22] <gili> doing it now
[08:22] <mike__> Yes.
[08:22] <gili> thanks
[08:22] <ikonia> !ops
[08:22] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[08:23] <paul928>  mike__#ubuntu-offtopic
[08:23] <n2diy> mike_, ubuntu-offtopic
[08:23] <jpjacobs> The_Machine, the netcat-dd thing is what you need
[08:23] <mike__> Thanks.
[08:23] <nalioth> idonyes?
[08:23] <apokryphos> ikonia: hello?
[08:23] <angstmachine> nipple: no dice. already enabled.
[08:23] <miranda82> can anyone help me with my 120 gigs external drive? i get this error all the times i try to write on it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/975/
[08:23] <kane77> anybody have experience with wifi routers?? I need help...
[08:23] <The_Machine> thanks jpjacobs
[08:23] <The_Machine> i'm going to read it up now.
[08:23] <nalioth> ikonia: did you need something?
[08:23] <ikonia> apokryphos sorry to call you - its probably a bit over the top. The user Giona is constnalty posting urls to steve jobs key note speach on you tube, I've asked the user to stop as its nothing to do with ubuntu, but I think it may be a bot
[08:24] <angstmachine> ikonia: if it's a driver problem is there any hope untill the driver is updated?
[08:24] <IntuitiveNipple> angst: and all mixer volumes set to full?
[08:24] <Seveas> ikonia, ?
[08:24] <ikonia> wow - none in then 3 at one
[08:24] <jpjacobs> The_Machine,  if your done with the image, i'll guide you through the rest if you want.
[08:24] <ikonia> angstmachine probably not
[08:24] <zelda> Can anyone help me install my ati card? Ive done the stuff in the support forums, and it still doesnt work. Can someone walk me through it?
[08:24] <angstmachine> nipple: cranked to 11
[08:24] <The_Machine> perfect
[08:24] <The_Machine> i can follow this easily
[08:24] <The_Machine> thanks!
[08:24] <IntuitiveNipple> angst: are you feeding it into an external amp? is that set nice and high?
[08:24] <jpjacobs> The_Machine, btw i wouldn't recommend the cd they use on the site. i think grml has far more possibilities
[08:24] <ikonia> thanks nalioth
[08:24] <ikonia> sorry to distrub - it was  abit over the top
[08:24] <miranda82> can anyone help me with my 120 gigs external drive? i checked dmesg and i get this error all the times i try to write on it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/975/
[08:25] <The_Machine> grml - got it
[08:25] <angstmachine> nipple: when i use an external amp it's fine, of course, but the output could stand to be alot higher.
[08:25] <jlewis_> riotkittie: yeah, I still have plenty of centos installs and fedora
[08:25] <nalioth> miranda82: please wait at least 5 minutes before repeating the same question :)
[08:25] <apokryphos> ikonia: if it's not an emergency then it's a good idea to see if there's an active op first, but thanks.
[08:25] <ikonia> apokryphos I did try, but no-one responded
[08:25] <miranda82> nalioth, sorry, though no one read it, i 'll wait
[08:25] <apokryphos> ubotu: repeat | miranda82
[08:25] <ubotu> miranda82: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:25] <IntuitiveNipple> angst - i drive an external amp and sometimes forget i've turned it down :D
[08:25] <ikonia> hence why I said probably a bit over the top
[08:26] <jzaun> Hello :-) My hard drive corrupted last night (was using Fedora Hurd) and I didn't have a CD so I though I would try Ubuntu as I has a live CD to install from :-) My question is how do I upgrade from 6.06 to the latest and gratest testing version od Ubuntu?
[08:26] <miranda82> apokryphos, yeah, yeh i understood
[08:26] <RedShift> miranda82: it could be your drive is broken
[08:26] <ikonia> miranda82 that dmesg error is a warning
[08:26] <ikonia> do you have a problem writing to it
[08:26] <angstmachine> nipple: it's prolly my driver as ikonia suggested, so i'll just have to wait untill a better one comes along...
[08:26] <miranda82> i can write files with text on it
[08:27] <miranda82> but anything else, resets the usb
[08:27] <ikonia> miranda82 ok - could that be down to the file system
[08:27] <ikonia> spaces for example
[08:27] <ikonia> in the file names
[08:27] <miranda82> oh
[08:27] <ikonia> things like that /can/ cause problems, more so on fat partitions
[08:27] <miranda82> let me check
[08:27] <zelda> anyone know how to install ati cards?
[08:27] <miranda82> actually it's fat32
[08:27] <ikonia> its complaining abuot a lack of utf support so certain characters could cause a problem
[08:28] <Kista_Ubuntu> So Ive tried to get Umbrello with sudo apt-get install umbrello and Ive have modified also /etc/apt/sources.lst and it does not work. Why do I have a feeling that Ubuntu has to update something, maybe repos. Does someone know the terminal command for that?
[08:28] <ikonia> Kista_Ubuntu apt-get update first
[08:28] <ikonia> as you where told
[08:28] <miranda82> ikonia, mp3 named 1.mp3 did not work either
[08:28] <Total_noob> im having trouble installing the ATi driver can anyone help me?
[08:28] <kane77> Kista_Ubuntu, sudo apt-get update
[08:28] <ikonia> miranda82 not sure
[08:29] <recon> Total_noob: have you tried easy ubuntu?
[08:29] <angstmachine> nipple / ikonia: thanks for the help!
[08:29] <Total_noob> ?
[08:29] <ikonia> angstmachine no problem
[08:29] <Total_noob> ive tryed both install istructions on the wiki
[08:29] <paul928> If you enabled the repos type "apt-get update" in a terminal
[08:29] <recon> Total_noob: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ it will set most things up for you.
[08:29] <Total_noob> ok
[08:30] <recon> Total_noob: if you have any more problems, you can shout them out here.
[08:30] <Total_noob> ok
[08:30] <Total_noob> thanks
[08:30] <jpjacobs> !easyubuntu
[08:30] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[08:30] <jpjacobs> mind the 'use at own risk'
[08:31] <animaniacx> oops
[08:32] <animaniacx> i just formatted my hd again
[08:33] <Total_noob> on the easy ubuntu it says ive already installed the ATi drivers
[08:33] <Total_noob> but they still arnt working on my system
[08:33] <Slart> animaniacx: oops? you didn't mean to?
[08:33] <animaniacx> nope
[08:33] <ikonia> Total_noob is your card support ?
[08:33] <ikonia> card supported sorry
[08:33] <botezuma> heey, can anyoune help please...? I have a problem with XSane...
[08:33] <Total_noob> yes i checked
[08:33] <Total_noob> its a Radeon 9550
[08:34] <ikonia> what makes you think its not working ?
[08:34] <zelda> Can  anyone help with an install for ATI cards?
[08:34] <ikonia> !ati | zelda
[08:34] <ubotu> zelda: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:34] <zelda> thanks but ive done that and it still doesnt wortk.
[08:34] <zelda> Ive copied and pasted all that too
[08:34] <Total_noob> same zelda
[08:34] <Total_noob> what card you got
[08:34] <ikonia> zelda what doesn't work
[08:34] <zelda> x850 pro
[08:35] <Total_noob> not that might not be supported
[08:35] <Total_noob> but i know my card is and it still wont work :(
[08:35] <miranda82> can anyone help me with my 120 gigs external drive? i checked dmesg and i get this error all the times i try to write on it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/975/
[08:35] <zelda> well it wont install. Ive copied and pasted all the stuff from that support link, but it wont install.
[08:35] <zuzu_> any ideas why Seahorse / GPG Key Manager has the generate key greyed out even with all the information filled?
[08:35] <riaal> Anyone ever used kismet?
[08:35] <zuzu_> clicking help says that gpg-generate help files are not available
[08:35] <ikonia> zelda did you just copy and paste - or did you read the output of what was happeneing
[08:36] <zelda> Ive downloaded the driver from ati that goes with my card. Its worked before. I had to reformat this and it was working on the previous one.
[08:36] <Kista_Ubuntu> ikonia:  It worked very well. Sorry to disturb, been gone away from linux a while. I love Ubuntu, its so easy to use. Thanx!
[08:36] <zelda> I just copied and pasted the last time. It worked. This time it doesnt
[08:36] <Maximilian1st> Hi all
[08:36] <botezuma> can anyoune help please...? I have a problem with XSane on HP Officejet 4200 all in one...
[08:36] <Total_noob> Well ive looked through all the trouble shooting things and i just cant get it to use the ATI drivers
[08:36] <zelda> can someone help me do it through terminal?
[08:36] <Total_noob> its still using the default ones
[08:37] <svanness> hi all.  new to ubuntu and just installed on a Dell 700m widescreen.  Installation didn't detect the correct resolution and the one I want isn't in Preferences-->screen resolution.  Is there any way to add the correct resolution through the graphic environment, or am I going to end up having to do this from the command line?
[08:37] <jpjacobs> !fixres
[08:37] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:37] <un4get> !help nessus
[08:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help nessus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:37] <svanness> thanks
[08:37] <rfg> /chanserv info #
[08:38] <un4get> help ! howto setup nessus
[08:38] <Rookie-1> !nessus
[08:38] <ubotu> nessus: Remote network security auditor, the client. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.8-1 (edgy), package size 216 kB, installed size 572 kB
[08:38] <n2diy> ! nessus
[08:38] <AnRkey> hi all
[08:38] <un4get> ! nessus
[08:38] <jzaun> So can anyone tell me how to update from 6.06 to the testing version of Ubuntu?
[08:38] <zelda> so, Ikona, you leaving us hanging or what?
 Total_noob: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ it will set most things
[08:39] <ikonia> oops
[08:39] <ikonia> sorry
[08:39] <AnRkey> where is the paste bin
[08:39] <AnRkey> ?
[08:39] <Total_noob> yeh i tried that
[08:39] <Total_noob> says its already done but it isnt
[08:39] <recon> Total_noob: have you restarted?
[08:39] <Rookie-1> 6.06 to 6.10 ?
[08:39] <ikonia> Ratrophy thats next weeks episode
[08:39] <un4get> howto configure nessus. i already install it
[08:39] <Rookie-1> !upgrade
[08:39] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:39] <AnRkey> evermine, being a tart
[08:39] <Total_noob> yeh about 9 times
[08:39] <n2diy> ! pastebin | AnRkey
[08:39] <ubotu> AnRkey: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:39] <ikonia> oops
[08:39] <AnRkey> nevermind
[08:39] <pike_> jzaun: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:39] <AnRkey> soz new kb
[08:39] <kane77> ehm I disabled dhcp on my wifi router... now I cant connect to it... am I messed up??
[08:39] <politik> anyone know why subversion 1.4 is not in edgy? I need it...
[08:39] <jzaun> thanks
[08:39] <Soccrmastr> I was updating Xubuntu from 6.06 to 6.0 and left iton vernight, got back and theres the screensaver on, so i put in my password says its wrong I tried several times, made sure it wasnt caps locks, then clicked new login underneat there. the XFCE restarted, and then when I tried to log in from there a warning message came up, but all the words were blocks, and all the button choices were...
[08:40] <Soccrmastr> ...blocks so I chose the one on the left then it logged me in. I opened terminal did lsd_release -a said I have 6.10 edgy so I went to restart, restarted the computer GRUB loads all the other crap loads, then the XFCE loading screen comes up. Then it closes and just a blank screen where I can type.
[08:40] <Soccrmastr> then when I hold down power to shut off I get on that screen some errors, then the XFCE loading screen comes back up and the system shuts down
[08:40] <Soccrmastr> any suggestions?
[08:40] <BigToe> I can't write files to my Samsung YP-Z5 MP3 player because Nautilus says there's only 1.5mb free space, even after deleting a 4mb MP3! How do I fix this?
[08:40] <zelda> the device manager recognizes my card too.
[08:41] <zelda> It says its an ATI x850 Pro
[08:41] <n2diy> BigToe: Is there a trash folder on the drive?
[08:41] <tehouse> or .trash (view hidden files)
[08:41] <zelda> !help ati
[08:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help ati - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <Mikey> help. my wifi card doesnt work with WPA, (ralink RT2500), do i need wpa_supplicant? and how can i get it without using apt-get
[08:42] <Rookie-1> !ati
[08:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:42] <BigToe> argh
[08:42] <zelda> thanks
[08:42] <BigToe> thanks n2diy
[08:42] <BigToe> :S forgot about that
[08:42] <n2diy> BigToe: nada
[08:42] <zelda> im going to try it again myself since noone is helping
[08:42] <Total_noob> any help then?
[08:42] <zelda> nope
[08:42] <un4get> !nessus configuration
[08:42] <ubotu> nessus: Remote network security auditor, the client. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.8-1 (edgy), package size 216 kB, installed size 572 kB
[08:43] <zelda> we are sunk total_noob
[08:43] <Total_noob> :(
[08:43] <Total_noob> its so annoying
[08:43] <Mikey> !wpa_supplicant
[08:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wpa_supplicant - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:43] <Mikey> baaah
[08:43] <zelda> yeah.
[08:43] <zelda> noone in here likes helping. They just give you links to read.
[08:43] <AntennaDoof> Does anyone here know if Ubuntu 6.1 desktop supports software RAIDs?
[08:44] <Mikey> i dont mind to help myself, i just occasionally get stuck
[08:44] <Total_noob> hmm
[08:44] <Mikey> i mean, i yes would do
[08:44] <SoulChild> Hello, i have a little network problem, my inet only works if i restart the /etc/init.d/networking PLEAE HELP
[08:44] <Mikey> my wifi card doesnt work with WPA, (ralink RT2500), do i need wpa_supplicant? and how can i get it without using apt-get
[08:44] <Total_noob> its just every single opengl application just lags i can never get a normal FPS
[08:44] <ikonia> Total_noob run glx gears and see if dri is running
[08:44] <ikonia> I doubt it is
[08:44] <Total_noob> ?
[08:44] <Total_noob> command for it?
[08:45] <ikonia> Total_noob run the application glxgears and see if dri is running
[08:45] <tehouse> noob: $ glxgears
[08:45] <Total_noob> how do i see if dri is running?
[08:45] <Total_noob> the program is running
[08:45] <Total_noob> but how do i know is Dri is working?
[08:45] <SoulChild> Hello, i have a little network problem, my inet only works if i restart the /etc/init.d/networking PLEASE HELP
[08:46] <durodolas> hey
[08:46] <Total_noob> its just 3 gears on the screen moving very slowly and jumply
[08:46] <ikonia> Total_noob dri's not enabled probably
[08:46] <Total_noob> how do i enable it properly?
[08:46] <SoulChild> @all how can i check that networking starts at boot
[08:46] <botezuma> xsane on HP 4200 Officejet not working.  can anyone help?
[08:46] <ikonia> Total_noob it tells you in the docs
[08:46] <AnRkey> can some1 take a look at my dhcpd.conf and tell me why it's not working? i pastebinned my conf and dhcp3 restart output
[08:46] <Total_noob> what docs?
[08:47] <AnRkey> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/976/
[08:47] <ikonia> Total_noob the howto's you've been reading
[08:47] <BigToe> where does liblame-dev extract libmp3lame.so to?
[08:47] <Total_noob> yeh
[08:47] <BigToe> !liblame
[08:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about liblame - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:47] <Total_noob> ive followed them exacly
[08:47] <BigToe> !lame
[08:47] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB
[08:47] <ikonia> BigToe /usr/lib probably
[08:47] <lxuser> how can I cancel updates from ubuntu
[08:47] <lxuser> some packages
[08:47] <BigToe> thanks
[08:47] <AntennaDoof> SoulChild,,,,, is is networking actually started,,, or are you starting it when you restart it?
[08:47] <miranda82> can anyone help me with my 120 gigs external drive, disk is brand new ? i checked dmesg and i get this error all the times i try to write on it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/975/ i also can write prefectly text files but nothing else (mp3, jpg, whatever)
[08:47] <tehouse> noob: can you pastebin your /etc/xorg.conf
[08:48] <tehouse> err /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:48] <botezuma> !xsane
[08:48] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[08:48] <lxuser> I have already installed amarok version in dkpg but now ubuntu wants to update wtih a minor version
[08:48] <biggdoggg> can someone tell me by using the ssh command is it possible to cd into a direction and run a binary in that directory in the same command line
[08:48] <WoodwardAve> any word on whether the new X.org update is safe to install?
[08:48] <Mikey> !wpa
[08:48] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:48] <ikonia> cd /dir ; ./run_it
[08:48] <WoodwardAve> for edgy
[08:48] <biggdoggg> you rok
[08:48] <biggdoggg> thank ikonia
[08:48] <ikonia> WoodwardAve well if you install edgy - you get it
[08:48] <durodolas> biggdoogg its possible
[08:48] <pietro> I've a trouble with my combo dvd. It can play anything, without divx from a dvd. I can explain well, it can read data cd, video cd, video dvd, data dvd, but not dvd containing anykind of compressed video format, like mpeg4 or avi. The message that appears if I try to open it is:"Unable to mount the selecte volume the volume is probably in a format that cannot be mounted". All my dvd are in UDF. The model of my combo dvd is: philips dvd+R/+
[08:48] <pietro> RW dvd 8301/44
[08:48] <SoulChild> antennaDoof: it is started but i don t have a ipv4 only ipv6 so i have to restart networking and then i got a ipv4 & ipv6
[08:48] <WoodwardAve> ikonia: this is true
[08:49] <WoodwardAve> heh
[08:49] <SoulChild> where can i deactivate ipv6
[08:49] <WoodwardAve> figured i'd see if other people had tried it
[08:49] <ikonia> SoulChild modules.conf
[08:49] <lxuser> howto cancel updates from ubuntu
[08:49] <SoulChild> thanks
[08:49] <n2diy> ! ipv6 SoulChild
[08:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipv6 SoulChild - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:49] <durodolas> just remove all the lines with ipv6 in modules.conf
[08:49] <ikonia> WoodwardAve it doesn't matter what other people think as they have different hardware and requiments - do you want/need it - is your kit supported
[08:49] <jpjacobs> SoulChild, do blacklist ipv6
[08:49] <n2diy> ! ipv6 | SoulChild
[08:49] <ubotu> SoulChild: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[08:50] <SoulChild> n2diy thanks#
[08:50] <Total_noob> it doesnt say anything about Dri on the docs
[08:50] <durodolas> can anyone help me with phpmyadmin
[08:50] <Total_noob> i get this
[08:50] <Total_noob> $ fglrxinfo
[08:50] <Total_noob> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[08:50] <Total_noob> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[08:50] <Total_noob> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[08:50] <Total_noob> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1)
[08:50] <biggdoggg> ikonia it didnt not work
[08:50] <ikonia> biggdoggg what didn't
[08:50] <WoodwardAve> well, thanks all
[08:51] <durodolas> I accidentally deleted all accounts before I made on that I coul use
[08:51] <WoodwardAve> peace
[08:51] <Total_noob> the verdor and renderer should be ATI
[08:51] <biggdoggg> cd /dir; ./run
[08:51] <recon> !pastebin < Total_noob
[08:51] <PriceChild> I want to install ubuntu on a separate partition, but I can't be bothered to have no internet for 3/4 hour.... Is there an easy way to install it onto the partition from my current install?
[08:51] <ikonia> biggdoggg you did change the command to the right directories/files didn't you ?
[08:51] <Total_noob> huh? recon
[08:51] <Total_noob> !pastebin
[08:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:51] <Total_noob> ok
[08:51] <ikonia> PriceChild ddi it
[08:52] <meuserj> biggdoggg, are you wanting to do ssh, change dir, and run all on the same command line?
[08:52] <ikonia> PriceChild I meant dd
[08:52] <PriceChild> recon, you got the > the wrong way round ;)
[08:52] <PriceChild> ikonia, enlighten me :)
[08:52] <recon> PriceChild: I'm using to much C++, then.
[08:52] <ikonia> PriceChild either cp -Xp to the new partition and re-configure grub
[08:52] <PriceChild> ikonia, I'd rather a clean install...
[08:52] <ikonia> PriceChild or dd (you may need man on it for more details) one partition to the other
[08:52] <biggdoggg> meuserj yes i am
[08:52] <ikonia> ahh hI see
[08:52] <ikonia> my mistake
[08:52] <PriceChild> ikonia, thanks for the idea though :)
[08:53] <ikonia> PriceChild you'll struggle to install from an existing install
[08:53] <durodolas> help!!! phpmyadmin, locked out
[08:53] <meuserj> biggdoggg, ssh hostname 'cd dir;./run_cmd'
[08:53] <biggdoggg> ah
[08:53] <PriceChild> ikonia, cuz the way I see it, I can use apt from a chroot, its just getting the base sorted :)
[08:53] <ikonia> PriceChild and thats where its going to be hard
[08:53] <jedix> hey, can someone tell me how to get quicktime movies working in my browser?
[08:54] <PriceChild> ikonia, hehe :)
[08:54] <jedix> they seem to work with mplayer from disk
[08:54] <jedix> but totum keeps taking over firefox
[08:54] <jedix> totem
[08:56] <Total_noob> right maybe this will help you guys help me
[08:56] <Total_noob> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/977/
[08:57] <SoulChild> can somebody help me with a little (i think) easy to solve network problem
[08:57] <recon> SoulChild: don't ask to ask, just ask.
[08:57] <recon> plus, it's kinda slow right now.
[08:57] <jpjacobs> jedix, throw totem away, install mozilla-mplayer
[08:57] <Total_noob> oh and my DRI isnt working :(
[08:57] <animaniacx> hey
[08:58] <animaniacx> i have a question
[08:58] <Total_noob> oh it says this too
[08:58] <Total_noob> (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
[08:58] <Total_noob> whats that mean?
[08:58] <mena> How TO install extra Fonts
[08:58] <tehouse> Total_noob: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:58] <recon> !ask
[08:58] <SoulChild> recon: i am sorry, okay: my internet only works if i type: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart and if i don't i only have a Ipv6 not a Ipv4
[08:58] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:58] <warkruid> jedix: totem on edgy ? ditch it!
[08:58] <Total_noob> ok
[08:58] <jedix> jpjacobs: if I uninstall totem.. it wants to take ubuntu-desktop with it
[08:58] <jrib> !ubuntu-desktop | jedix
[08:58] <ubotu> jedix: k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[08:58] <jpjacobs> mena: there are fonts in synaptic
[08:58] <animaniacx> wat is gnaome?
[08:58] <ikonia> Total_noob means its not dri capable
[08:58] <jedix> ah
[08:58] <Total_noob> what isnt?
[08:59] <mena> jpjacobs, Realy I will see
[08:59] <ikonia> your card in that current configuration
[08:59] <jpjacobs> jedix... right,...maybe just the browserplugin then?
[08:59] <animaniacx> wat is gnome?
[08:59] <recon> SoulChild: I have no idea what could be causing that, but you could go to the administration>session panel and set it as a startup-command.
[08:59] <jpjacobs> !gnome
[08:59] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[08:59] <andyt> !flash
[08:59] <recon> !gnome | animaniacx
[08:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:59] <ubotu> animaniacx: gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[08:59] <SoulChild> recon, thanks i lll try
[08:59] <SoulChild> what is a good looking irc font for xchat
[08:59] <Total_noob> ok tehouse
[08:59] <zelda> interesting. I have the screen resolution now, But its not running off my ati card
[08:59] <zelda> can someone help
[08:59] <animaniacx> how do u get gnome desktop enviroment?
[09:00] <Total_noob> here is my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/981/
[09:00] <ikonia> is it possible we can start using ">" with ubot as if two people make a ubot request it floods the screen
[09:00] <gizmo_the_great1> what's the best way of checking an ext3 FS for errors, problem etc? Is there a graphical equivalent to the Windows scandisk feature?
[09:00] <logivision> if i have a program in window's that installs and all thjat the installation does is create a folder with an .exe and some .ini's, can i copy that file it creats to a linux box and run the EXE with CrossOver?
[09:00] <jpjacobs> animaniacx, if you installed the regular ubuntu, you already have it
[09:00] <animaniacx> k
[09:00] <SoulChild> does anyone know  a good looking irc font for xchat
[09:00] <jpjacobs> gizmo_the_great1, e2fsck
[09:00] <n2diy> animaniacx: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[09:00] <gizmo_the_great1> jpjacobs: is that graphical or all command line?
[09:00] <ikonia> Total_noob Load "dri"
[09:00] <Zaggynl> woot, new wine is out
[09:00] <jpjacobs> gizmo_the_great1, cli
[09:01] <w3ccv> SoulChild, what ever font that looks good to you - you may not like mine
[09:01] <Total_noob> erm how?
[09:01] <animaniacx> hey wats that program in ubuntu thats like windows blinds for windows
[09:01] <cowbud> fonts are like beer
[09:01] <SoulChild> w3ccv okay... you are right
[09:01] <ikonia> why is there two  "device" drivers for ati - "ati" and "fglrx"
[09:01] <ts_> jak przejsc do stanu "superuser" ?
[09:01] <jpjacobs> gizmo_the_great1, just do e2fsck partition. mind it must not be mounted
[09:01] <Total_noob> i dunno
[09:02] <Total_noob> its auto created most of that stuff
[09:02] <jedix> thanks guys
[09:02] <andyt> hey guys, how do i go about installing the kde environment for my ubuntu installation? i presume it will make a seperate login available at the login screen as xfce did when i was on dapper
[09:02] <ikonia> you may also want to remove this
[09:02] <ikonia> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/981/
[09:02] <ikonia> oops
[09:02] <logivision> ikonia: becuase ati sucks.
[09:02] <ikonia> Section "DRI"
[09:02] <ikonia> EndSection
[09:02] <Total_noob> huh?
[09:02] <ikonia> logivision I know this
[09:02] <jpjacobs> andyt, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:02] <cowbud> BuRn
[09:02] <logivision> ikonia: lol
[09:02] <warkruid> andyt use kubuntu?
[09:02] <animaniacx> wats that one program for ubuntu thats like windows  blinss thing
[09:02] <riotkittie> andyt:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:02] <ikonia> warkruid all the people in #kubuntu
[09:02] <riotkittie> doh.
[09:02] <animaniacx> 8BLINDS
[09:02] <logivision> ikonia: just making sure..
[09:02] <animaniacx> oow
[09:02] <dsdsdss> hey anyone knows how can i install the shh thing ?
[09:02] <animaniacx> oopw
[09:03] <dsdsdss> so other users can connect?
[09:03] <andyt> riotkittie: thx
[09:03] <Total_noob> could you edit it and send it back to me IKONIA?
[09:03] <LinTux> I need to scan outgoing E-mails as I have padded on a virus to work, any ideas
[09:03] <ikonia> dsdsdss ssh is installed by default
[09:03] <ikonia> Total_noob no sorry
[09:03] <dsdsdss> ikonia but its not working
[09:03] <Total_noob> well what do i need to change?
[09:03] <ikonia> dsdsdss explain
[09:03] <jpjacobs> dsdsdss, the client is installed by default, the server you must install: openssh-server
[09:03] <warkruid> LinTux: install clamav
[09:03] <LinTux> I need to scan outgoing E-mails as I have passed on a virus to work, any ideas
[09:03] <w3ccv> dsdsdss, which ssh thing - that's sshd - it should be started at boot
[09:03] <jpjacobs> ikonia, the ssh server isn't
[09:03] <ikonia> LinTux is your mail server hosting on ubuntu ?
[09:03] <cowbud> new MESSIAH
[09:03] <ikonia> jpjacobs he didn't say the server
[09:04] <logivision> LinTux: dont' spam your question, if anybody know's they will answer you.
[09:04] <LinTux> No ikonia
[09:04] <logivision> !spam |lintux
[09:04] <ikonia> hence why I asked for more detail in whats failing
[09:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:04] <jpjacobs> he did say 'so other users can connect'
[09:04] <ikonia> LinTux so why are you asking in here ?
[09:04] <dsdsdss> jpjacobs yes the server
[09:04] <dsdsdss> what do i need to write ?
[09:04] <ikonia> dsdsdss apt-get install openssh-server
[09:04] <LinTux> Logovision: that was not spam, but a spelling correction if you look
[09:04] <erUSUL> |repeat | LinTux
[09:04] <dsdsdss> okay
[09:04] <erUSUL> !repeat | LinTux
[09:04] <ubotu> LinTux: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:04] <ikonia> dsdsdss apt-cache search "something" will show you whats available to install
[09:04] <jpjacobs> dsdsdss, sudo apt-get install openssh-server (if i'm right)
[09:04] <ikonia> LinTux but your question has nothing to do with ubuntu
[09:05] <Total_noob> ikonia what should i do with the LOAD "dri" bit and the Section "DRI" endsection
[09:05] <LinTux> Ikonia: no I don't use Ubuntu as a mail server?
[09:05] <ikonia> unless you want your client to scan it
[09:05] <logivision> LinTux: Sorry, didn't notice that
[09:05] <ikonia> LinTux so what do you want to achieve
[09:05] <ikonia> achieve even
[09:05] <ikonia> ughhh spelling
[09:05] <LinTux> I just need to scan ouging emails from my machine, thats all
[09:06] <ikonia> LinTux what mail client are you using
[09:06] <warkruid> lintux running linux/ubuntu?
[09:06] <logivision> Anybody know how to perform a basic pen test ?
[09:06] <Przemcio78> how to create dev packages?
[09:06] <ikonia> logivision nmap
[09:06] <ubuntux> hey
[09:06] <ikonia> Przemcio78 explain
[09:06] <zelda> can someone help me?
[09:06] <Total_noob> why cant anyone help me :(
[09:06] <ubuntux> does someone know how to remove that window drecoration from wine?
[09:06] <un4get> howto configure nessus ?
[09:06] <mena> I know I asked This Question Many Times But If I ha Had The Kubuntu iso FIle And I dont Have Writer How To Install It Throw The Os I have Or That Would Be Harmless ...^_^+^_^
[09:07] <zelda> Ive got the screen resolution now, but its not on my ati graphics card.
[09:07] <ikonia> mena mount it as a loop back file system, but you want be able to boot from it
[09:07] <LinTux> sorry to trouble you
[09:07] <The_Machine> how do i mount an iso image?
[09:07] <logivision> ikonia: isn't nmap just basically a port scanning? i'd be looking more for a tutorial on how to perform a pen test , not just find vulns
[09:07] <warkruid> LintTux running linux/ubuntu as a client?
[09:07] <Przemcio78> what do you think about lsb?
[09:07] <mena> ikonia, How :)
[09:07] <jpjacobs> The_Machine, mount -o loop iso dir
[09:07] <The_Machine> nmap does a ton of stuff, ping scanning, OS probe, port scanning
[09:08] <The_Machine> jpjacobs: did you basically just memorize that command?
[09:08] <Zaggynl> Someone should make a daemontools for linux
[09:08] <The_Machine> or does it make sense to you?
[09:08] <cowbud> The_Machine: mount -o loop iso.iso /mount/point
[09:08] <ikonia> The_Machine basic mount options
[09:08] <jpjacobs> i just know it...
[09:08] <cowbud> The_Machine: as root
[09:08] <cowbud> of course
[09:08] <cowbud> or install fuseiso
[09:08] <SoulChild> Hey, how must my eth1 dhcp wlan be configured in interfaces file?
[09:08] <un4get> !help nessus
[09:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help nessus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:08] <ubuntux> does someone know how to get rid of window decorations in wine
[09:08] <ikonia> SoulChild use the gui
[09:08] <Przemcio78> how to create a deb package?
[09:08] <ubuntux> !help wine
[09:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help wine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:08] <cowbud> ubuntulog: winecfg
[09:08] <SoulChild> ikonia which one ?
[09:08] <ikonia> Przemcio78 check the developer docs on http://www.ubuntu.com
[09:08] <ikonia> SoulChild network config
[09:08] <w3ccv> The_Machine,  mount -o loop Ireland.iso
[09:08] <Zaggynl> ubuntux, try !wine
[09:08] <SoulChild> thanks
[09:08] <ubuntux> !wine
[09:08] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:09] <The_Machine> er
[09:09] <ubuntux> thx Zaggynl
[09:09] <The_Machine> how do i mount an .img?
[09:09] <jpjacobs> ubuntux, the syntax is !wine (and its better to use /msg ubotu !wine)
[09:09] <The_Machine> heh
[09:09] <The_Machine> same thing?
[09:09] <jpjacobs> idd
[09:09] <ikonia> The_Machine thats normally nero propriaty
[09:09] <Zaggynl> welcome
[09:09] <ubuntux> okay, learned something again :)
[09:09] <The_Machine> ...okay...  so, no love?
[09:09] <recon> Would anybody know how to set up the old UNIX mail system and make it compatible with a SMTP and POP3 server set?
[09:09] <The_Machine> (isn't there something like daemon tools for linux?)
[09:09] <jpjacobs> The_Machine, thats the image you just made right?
[09:09] <cowbud> The_Machine: depends what format is the .img in?
[09:09] <The_Machine> that basically mounts everything?
[09:09] <cowbud> The_Machine: no
[09:10] <cowbud> there isn't
[09:10] <ikonia> recon whats the old unix mail system ?
[09:10] <The_Machine> jpjacobs: no, something a coworker sent me
[09:10] <cowbud> google .img linux then
[09:10] <CPF_> Hi
[09:10] <gnomefreak> jpjacobs: its better to use /msg
[09:10] <LucianSolaris> anyone familiar with gnupg?
[09:10] <CPF_> I've got this problem...
[09:10] <SoulChild> is tehre a way to restore etc/network/interfaces like on the live cd ?
[09:10] <ikonia> LucianSolaris a little
[09:10] <CPF_> Dunno if it's gotta do with ubuntu, yet I'd like to ask...
[09:10] <jpjacobs> gnomefreak, hm? in what aspect?
[09:10] <ikonia> SoulChild use the gui
[09:10] <pike_> The_Machine: you think thats bad? in solaris its:mount -F hsfs -o ro `lofiadm -a /export/temp/software.iso` /mnt
[09:10] <ikonia> CPF_ go
[09:10] <cowbud> CPF_: that is three messages before you actually asked just ask
[09:10] <CPF_> I'm (since today) having these peeks in my cpu usage...
[09:10] <The_Machine> lol pike!
[09:10] <SoulChild> ikona: gui does not change anything, still my manually wrotten text
[09:10] <CPF_> Every now and then it goes to 100%...
[09:10] <gnomefreak> jpjacobs: there are 1000+ people in here at any time and it liughtens on the stuff in the channel
[09:10] <LucianSolaris> ikonia, why can't i use setpref to set TWOFISH as my only cipher and SHA512 as my only hash, it always adds 3DES and SHA1 to it
[09:10] <recon> ikonia: the old spool system.
[09:11] <gnomefreak> lightens
[09:11] <ikonia> LucianSolaris do you have the kernel module loaded
[09:11] <ikonia> recon thats dependant on the SMTP server
[09:11] <LucianSolaris> gnupg requires a kernel module???!!
[09:11] <jpjacobs> owkay
[09:11] <paul928> un4get - for help on nessus installation http://easylinux.info/wiki/Main_Page
[09:11] <gnomefreak> jpjacobs: the more !anything that is sent to channel will either be missed or people will miss other things they need to know
[09:11] <ikonia> LucianSolaris no but envryption does
[09:11] <recon> ikonia: ok, gmail.
[09:11] <Mikey> how do i make ifup more verbose?
[09:11] <ikonia> recon gmail isn't an smtp server
[09:11] <ikonia> Mikey its a script
[09:11] <LucianSolaris> nvm, 3des and sha1 are fallback for openpgp
[09:11] <recon> ikonia: yes, pop.gmail.com once enabled in settings.
[09:12] <jpjacobs> gnomefreak, that's what i told the guy to do...
[09:12] <un4get> tq paul928
[09:12] <The_Machine> okay, for clarification it's a DVD movie
[09:12] <ikonia> recon ahhh you want fetchmail
[09:12] <The_Machine> the img file
[09:12] <cowbud> The_Machine: what format is it?
[09:12] <ikonia> I see what you asking
[09:12] <zelda> Does anyone here have a ATI card in there system?
[09:12] <gnomefreak> gmail is smtp for sending
[09:12] <SoulChild> how to reset etc/network/interfaces???
[09:12] <cowbud> The_Machine: when you type file FILEANME.img
[09:12] <ikonia> The_Machine what does that matter
[09:12] <Mikey> ikonia: ahhhh yea i get it
[09:12] <ubuntux> well i checked with winecfg but i dont see an option to get rid of window decorations?
[09:12] <ikonia> ubuntux join #wine
[09:12] <mena> ikonia, No idea
[09:12] <cowbud> ubuntux as in you want just win32 decorations or no borders at all?
[09:12] <ikonia> mena sorry - missed your question
[09:13] <n2diy> Mikey:  -v
[09:13] <ubuntux> cowbud, well i have that partypoker software installed
[09:13] <recon> ikonia: and for sending?
[09:13] <ubuntux> which is like webbased
[09:13] <The_Machine> ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data
[09:13] <Mikey> ikonia: i get an error on like 'ifconfig ra0 essid "myid"'
[09:13] <mena> ikonia, You told Me The way to do that But I dont how
[09:13] <ikonia> recon you need an MTA
[09:13] <cowbud> which like tells me nothing cause I don't know it
[09:13] <CPF_> So, I've got these periodic cpu peeks of 100%. Nothing indicates anything about going to 100%, (highest at that point is my monitor, which has 8%), yet all graphics, and statistics say it's 100% (resulting in a milisecond or so of not-able-to-use-the-box time)
[09:13] <Przemcio78> is ubuntu friendly for those who want to compile some stuff?
[09:13] <ubuntux> and now my window decorations are around it
[09:13] <recon> ikonia: let me guess, "sendmail"
[09:13] <ubuntux> so its ugly
[09:13] <cowbud> The_Machine: then just mount it the way I told you mount -o loop bob.img /mount/point
[09:13] <CPF_> Is this because of ubuntu, or not?
[09:13] <SoulChild> whats the differnce between gksudo and sudo?
[09:13] <The_Machine> will try :)
[09:13] <Mikey> ikonia: it says essid: Host name lookup failure
[09:13] <ikonia> Mikey thats because your trying to configured a wirless card, you need iwconfig
[09:13] <cowbud> ubuntux: what window decorations from your window manager?
[09:13] <SoulChild> !gksudo
[09:13] <ubuntux> yep
[09:13] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using "sudo <GUI-application>"
[09:13] <ikonia> recon anyone woudl do
[09:13] <gnomefreak> SoulChild: gksudo shouyld be used for gtk apps
[09:13] <ikonia> would
[09:14] <cowbud> ubuntux so turn off the portion under graphics that says let window manager control blah
[09:14] <SoulChild> gnomefreak thanks
[09:14] <ikonia> mena told you how to do what - sorry - lots of chat I forget
[09:14] <Mikey> ikonia: so use iwconfig instead of ifconfig????
[09:14] <ikonia> Mikey for a wirless card yes
[09:14] <oof> hi, does anyone know any good program to chat on intranet?
[09:14] <cowbud> oof: im sure google does
[09:14] <gnomefreak> oof: gaim
[09:14] <recon> ikonia: would you recommend one?
[09:14] <ikonia> oof in irc, xchat, bitchx
[09:14] <ubuntux> okay, thanks cowbud i restart the app later and check out if it works
[09:14] <mena> ikonia,  mena mount it as a loop back file system, but you want be able to boot from it....about the kubuntu iso file wich i cant write it to cd bec i dont have a writer
[09:14] <ikonia> recon its all personal preference, sendmail is the most cut down
[09:15] <ikonia> mena you can't boot from it
[09:15] <ikonia> that was what I was trying to say
[09:15] <ikonia> so you can't install
[09:15] <ikonia> sorry if that came across wrong
[09:15] <SoulChild> is there a way to reset the runlevels?
[09:15] <SoulChild> !runlevels
[09:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about runlevels - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:15] <mena> ikonia, okay it means no other way except cd live
[09:15] <SoulChild> !runlevel
[09:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about runlevel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:15] <riotkittie> wow. i need to shave my legs. that said. define "chat on the internet"
[09:15] <ikonia> mena not relaly
[09:15] <cowbud> SoulChild: try one more time
[09:15] <cowbud> hah
[09:15] <ikonia> SoulChild reset the run levels - what are ou talking about
[09:15] <logivision> is know KDE or GTK+
[09:15] <logivision> is gnome KDE or GTK+ ** ?
[09:15] <cowbud> gtk
[09:16] <SoulChild> ikonia i used sysvconfig to change some serveives, i want to reset everythign
[09:16] <mena> ikonia, okay
[09:16] <ikonia> its a live cd - reboot
[09:16] <mena> ikonia, thanks for help
[09:16] <SoulChild> ikonia live cd? no
[09:16] <Przemcio78> logovision, it's qt
[09:16] <ikonia> I thought you where on a livecd
[09:16] <Mikey> ikonia: shall i change all ifconfigs to iwconfig, even the ones that say ifconfig ra0 up, and down
[09:16] <ikonia> Mikey no no no no
[09:16] <cowbud> Przemcio78: uhh gnome?
[09:16] <cowbud> Przemcio78: I don't think so son
[09:17] <Mikey> ikonia: at last im feeling like im getting soware =), im listening
[09:17] <ikonia> !wireless >mikey
[09:17] <Mikey> ikonia: yes i read that
[09:17] <Przemcio78> cowbud, is gnome kde?
[09:17] <Przemcio78> father?
[09:17] <cowbud> Przemcio78: [12:15]  <logivision> is gnome KDE or GTK+ ** ?
[09:17] <cowbud> I know reading history is tough
[09:17] <riotkittie> gnome == gnome     kde !=gnome
[09:18] <Mikey> !paste
[09:18] <n2diy> ! gnome | Przemcio78
[09:18] <ubotu> paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[09:18] <ubotu> Przemcio78: gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[09:18] <jannu1> i have already installed steam at windows partition how i can start steam with cedega without reinstalling steam?
[09:18] <Mikey> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/984/
[09:18] <Przemcio78> i don't understand this question, "is kde gnome"
[09:18] <cowbud> jannu1: google that
[09:18] <The_Machine> cowbud: that worked :)  thank you very much.
[09:18] <Przemcio78> is windows linux?
[09:18] <cowbud> The_Machine: no problem
[09:18] <ikonia> mikey what do you want me to do with that
[09:19] <cowbud> Przemcio78: well first that wasn't the question and secondly it was someone who was confused that kde is not the actual toolkit but a DE and most people choose to ignore that easy mistake and answer the question
[09:19] <cowbud> but you choose to dwell on it
[09:19] <gizmo_the_great1> I struggling to run e2fsck on my ext3 hard disk. I have unmounted it, and then I run 'e2fsck -vcD dev/hdd5' but it returns a message of 'The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 filesystem' etc and tells me try a different superblock. Any ideas?
[09:19] <Mikey> ikonia: that config is correct yea?
[09:19] <ikonia> no
[09:20] <Mikey> ikonia: it launches the ra0 ok, but it wont connect to dhcp
[09:20] <tscherno> Mikey try dhclient
[09:21] <Mikey> tscherno: it cant find it, it says no dhcp lease found or something
[09:21] <jpjacobs> gizmo_the_great1, and without all those options?
[09:21] <ikonia> Mikey looks like your dhcp server isn't playing
[09:22] <mena> Is there any problem if i install a app that ubuntu dowest support i mean a new version of app that ubuntu supprt its old one
[09:22] <jpjacobs> btw it's /dev/hd...
[09:22] <Mikey> tscherno: oh but it is, i can connect without WPA just fine
[09:22] <SoulChild> what meens "auto eth0" in interfaces
[09:22] <variant> mena: if you can find a .deb for it
[09:22] <variant> or install from source
[09:23] <mena> variant, yes i find it so its easy
[09:23] <mena> its opera
[09:23] <Mikey> SoulChild: that means to launch that interface with startup
[09:23] <iloveubuntureall> Hello, I have problems with Nvidia driver to 7300GT.
[09:23] <ikonia> mena depends if a.) you know what your doing b.) how you install it c.) want help on it
[09:24] <jrib> mena: opera is in ubuntu's commercial repositories
[09:24] <jpjacobs> gizmo_the_great1, you are sure it is a ext3 filesystem? try e2fsck /dev/hdd5
[09:24] <gizmo_the_great1> Yep - it is ext3, and yep - tried without options. Same error. Odd.
[09:25] <Mikey> ikonia: if i disable encryption in my router again and connect, what should i look for? to help diagnose the problem?
[09:25] <cowbud> gizmo_the_great1: and you are running e2fsck as root?
[09:25] <mena> jrib, i know but the newer version of it doent supportted and you tell me tp install what ubuntu supportted so is there any problem of ubuntu dosent
[09:25] <gizmo_the_great1> jpjacobs: Aaah - that might be it. No I not
[09:25] <ikonia> look for it broadcasting and your machine listening for an address
[09:25] <gizmo_the_great1> cowbud: Aaah - that might be it. No I not
[09:25] <cowbud> gizmo_the_great1: give that a go..
[09:26] <abbyz> I was trying to run the chroot command and I get an error, chroot: /bin/bash: No such file or directory. Why is that?
[09:26] <mena> jrib, if u didnt understand never mind
[09:26] <ikonia> mena why do you want new
[09:26] <jrib> mena: opera is ok, you just don't want to override too many packages that ubuntu /does/ have
[09:26] <ikonia> what function is in the newer version you want
[09:26] <Thug-N-Me> hi all
[09:26] <mena> ikonia, i think it  have better featuers
[09:26] <cowbud> Thug-N-Me: white and nerDY
[09:26] <Przemcio78> is xfce gnome or kde?
[09:26] <mena> jrib, okay
[09:26] <ikonia> mena such as
[09:26] <jrib> mena: edgy-commercial looks empty anyway so
[09:26] <Thug-N-Me> i cannot see the shared directory from my other windows machine. it did shouw up yesday any help ?
[09:27] <gizmo_the_great1> cowbud: It was two things. a) I'd missed off the / before dev so it was looking in the wrong place and I aslo sudo'd it and now it working. Thanks guys
[09:27] <mena> ikonia, opera 9.10
[09:27] <gnomefreak> Przemcio78: its neither is xfce it uses gtk apps as does gnome
[09:27] <jpjacobs> np
[09:27] <ikonia> mena what are the features that are better
[09:27] <Maximilian1st> Przemcio78, Xfce is Xfce but it is gtk like gnome
[09:27] <n2diy> Przemcio78: neither, it is xfce.
[09:27] <fract60> wow
[09:27] <fract60> hello~!
[09:27] <jrib> !opera | mena
[09:27] <ubotu> mena: opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[09:27] <mena> ikonia, i dont know much now
[09:27] <cowbud> gizmo_the_great1: cool that it is working
[09:27] <jrib> mena: ignore what ubotu said, just use the link if you are on edgy
[09:27] <ikonia> mena so you don't know anything about it - you just want newer
[09:27] <fract60> 
[09:27] <Przemcio78> thanks, i didn't know, linux is sooo complicated
[09:27] <w3ccv> abbyz, you get this error _after_ you chroot or while doing it
[09:28] <mena> ikonia, What the problem
[09:28] <Thug-N-Me> i did share it properly. this is my samba conf http://paste.lisp.org/display/34647
[09:28] <mena> jrib, okay
[09:28] <fract60> hello~!
[09:28] <abbyz> w3ccv: i get it while i chroot... immediately
[09:28] <ikonia> nothing - just looking for whats better and why you'd risk breaking your system for something you have no need for
[09:28] <mena> ikonia, its better to install the newest right
[09:28] <ikonia> no
[09:28] <Thug-N-Me> do i need samba running if i only wanna browse from ubuntu to windows ?
[09:28] <mena> ikonia, okay why
[09:28] <tscherno> no
[09:28] <w3ccv> abbyz, can you do anything after?
[09:29] <ikonia> newer may require things that break your system, have bugs in or require incompatbabilites
[09:29] <Przemcio78> is kde gnome or  xfce?
[09:29] <tscherno> Thug-N-Me no
[09:29] <Przemcio78> lol
[09:29] <mena> ikonia, okay....
[09:29] <ikonia> newer isn't always better
[09:29] <Thug-N-Me> tscherno right and why it doesnt show up the shared windows directory ? :(
[09:29] <n2diy> Przemcio78: neither, it is KDE
[09:29] <Thug-N-Me> tscherno it did work a while ago
[09:29] <abbyz> w3ccv: no, i think its some kinda wierd error...
[09:29] <Przemcio78> n2diy, are you sure? :P
[09:30] <jpjacobs> n2diy, he's messing with you ;)
[09:30] <Przemcio78> maybe it's windows? it looks like windows :)
[09:30] <n2diy> ! kde | Przemcio78
[09:30] <ubotu> Przemcio78: KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[09:30] <n2diy> jpjacobs: ya think?
[09:31] <jpjacobs> yea, quite sure
[09:31] <w3ccv> abbyz, after you chroot, you are permantly cut off from the system root - so if you don't have a bin/bash in your home directory (or where ever you chroot from) they it can't be found. The normal reason to chroot is for an anonymous ftp.
[09:31] <Przemcio78> bash-3.2$ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop Password:sudo: apt-get: command not found
[09:31] <Przemcio78> wtf?
[09:31] <ikonia> can we stop using "wtf"
[09:31] <LucianSolaris> does anyone know if pgp9 and the latest gpg (without modification) is able to import 8192 bit rsa keys and read signatures from the private key?
[09:32] <pike_> Przemcio78: sudo -s then exit then try again
[09:32] <ikonia> LucianSolaris your best bet is #gnupgp on freenode. the developers chill in there and are really helpful
[09:32] <mena> Is there A free app had a good option for graphic and editting
[09:32] <abbyz> w3ccv, but i have /bin/bash in my home directory. Do i need it in the directory to which i am 'chroot'ing to?
[09:32] <Przemcio78> pike_, it says command not found
[09:32] <ikonia> mena gimp
[09:32] <LucianSolaris> ikonia, it seems to be that everyone's asleep
[09:32] <paul928>  Przemcio78:-try yum
[09:32] <ikonia> LucianSolaris its worth waiting, they are good
[09:32] <w3ccv> abbyz, yes, that is your new root
[09:32] <Slart> I'm looking for something that can identify what motherboard, hard drives, processor etc I have in a computer. Preferably something with a GUI
[09:33] <mena> ikonia, How to install is there a command to install it
[09:33] <Przemcio78> yum doesn't work either :(
[09:33] <ikonia> mena come on man - you should know these commands by now
[09:33] <LucianSolaris> ikonia, i uploaded to keyserver-beta.pgp.com, could you look up luciansolaris@gmail.com and try to import it (it should be 8192 bits)
[09:33] <ikonia> mena read the basic docs on ubuntu.com
[09:33] <ikonia> LucianSolaris yeah sure - 2 minutes
[09:33] <mena> ikonia, i didnt memorized them yet
[09:33] <mena> i will
[09:33] <w3ccv> abbyz, Sri, I should not have said home - should have been chroot'd directory.
[09:34] <Przemcio78> linux is so hard and complicated, especially ubuntu
[09:34] <Przemcio78> what's mthe most user-friendly distro?
[09:34] <MuffY> mena: you're a newbie too?
[09:34] <w3ccv> abbyz, if bash needs libraries - then /lib must be there too.
[09:34] <n2diy> Slart: lshw
[09:34] <Tomatix> Ubuntu and SuSE
[09:34] <MuffY> join my club!
[09:34] <ikonia> Przemcio78 linux is easy
[09:34] <pike_> Przemcio78: ubuntu
[09:34] <tscherno> SuSe
[09:34] <Przemcio78> i heard source mage is nice
[09:35] <ikonia> you just expect it to work with no reading, or be spoon fed everything
[09:35] <variant> Przemcio78: lfs
[09:35] <CheshireViking> przemcio78: Ubuntu's the easiest I've found
[09:35] <ikonia> variant don't be naughty
[09:35] <Tomatix> It isn`t Linux that`s complicated; It`s the peoples brain who thinks complicated
[09:35] <pike_> Przemcio78: er compiling the whole thing doesnt sound as user friendly to me
[09:35] <mena> MuffY, I am new but i asked much question and ikonia had a goo dpoint
[09:35] <recon> ikonia: could you send me an email to try out new config with fetchmail/postfix?
[09:35] <MuffY> ikonia: you're not talking too me, are you?
[09:35] <Przemcio78> mandrake was easier but more buggy :/
[09:35] <variant> ikonia: it's the trolls favourite ;P
[09:35] <ikonia> MuffY with what
[09:35] <abbyz> w3ccv, thanks, i got it :)
[09:35] <MuffY> ikonia: ikonia>	you just expect it to work with no reading, or be spoon fed everything
[09:36] <Przemcio78> linux from scratch? sounds interesting :D
[09:36] <I-kido> Line my grandma always says: Linux is user friendly, not idiot friendly (no offence)
[09:36] <ikonia> Przemcio78 not for you
[09:36] <Przemcio78> ikonia, why?
[09:36] <ikonia> Przemcio78 out of your understanding
[09:36] <Slart> n2diy: thanks.. that did the job
[09:36] <MuffY> I-kido: i love that one
[09:36] <jpjacobs> I-kido, cool grandma :p
[09:36] <Przemcio78> ikonia, what's your distro?
[09:36] <n2diy> why does lshw warn me it should be run as superuser, and then run anyway?
[09:36] <n2diy> Slart: nada
[09:36] <I-kido> lol
[09:36] <ikonia> Przemcio78 I don't really want to discuss it
[09:37] <I-kido> :)
[09:37] <jpjacobs> n2diy, it can gather more info then
[09:37] <obscurant> how can i launch vino-server remotely, or get it to start at boot?
[09:37] <Przemcio78> i think my distro is more challenging than ubuntu
[09:37] <ikonia> Przemcio78 are you not using ubuntu ?
[09:37] <MuffY> Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.
[09:38] <MuffY> that's my favourite one
[09:38] <I-kido> Muffy loooll  good 1
[09:38] <SoulChild> i am back :D
[09:38] <ikonia> pooh
[09:38] <SoulChild> ikonia: i am sorry
[09:38] <Przemcio78> ubuntu is nice but there comes a moment you want something more
[09:38] <MuffY> according to www.quotationspage.com the quote was from "Rick Cook, The Wizardry Compiled"
[09:38] <SoulChild> how can i see if networking is autostarted at boot
[09:38] <ikonia> Przemcio78 but you can't use ubuntu - why would you want something more
[09:39] <Przemcio78> i recommend ubuntu to many people, especially newbees
[09:39] <mena> ikonia, i install it heheeheh i will memorize them i need that ....thanks ^_^
[09:39] <SoulChild> !networking
[09:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:39] <LucianSolaris> ikonia, so?
[09:39] <n2diy> SoulChild: ifconfig
[09:39] <Tomatix> Przemcio78, when those moments come, what more you want then?
[09:39] <ikonia> mena its the only way to learn, people constanltly telling you doesn't help. Well done for looking it up
[09:39] <Przemcio78> ikonia, i like compiling stuff
[09:40] <ikonia> LucianSolaris I can't access the site, the ssl certificate has expired
[09:40] <mena> ikonia, yes you are right
[09:40] <LucianSolaris> ikonia, so accept it, use like firefox
[09:40] <ikonia> LucianSolaris just a minute
[09:40] <phr34ck> hey, I have recently installed LAMP. am I safe? I mean, can anyone from the Internet connect to my apache serve or something ?
[09:40] <jpjacobs> Przemcio78, that is possible with ubuntu...
[09:40] <LucianSolaris> keyserver-beta.pgp.com is safe...
[09:40] <ikonia> mena its tough love - but it gets you there
[09:40] <SoulChild> how can i deactivate eth0 it is wired but i only use wlan
[09:40] <jpjacobs> Soulchild, sudo ifdown eth0
[09:41] <ikonia> SoulChild use the gui
[09:41] <n2diy> SoulChild: ifdown eth0
[09:41] <SoulChild> jpjacobs thanks
[09:41] <Przemcio78> ubuntu has outdated packages
[09:41] <Soccrmastr> ya GUI u can
[09:41] <fleischwurst> hey all
[09:41] <fleischwurst> night all
[09:41] <ikonia> SoulChild that will only do it one time - not disable it
[09:41] <Soccrmastr> no it doesnt, unless u added them urself
[09:41] <SoulChild> jpjacobs:will it be deactivated on startup?
[09:41] <jpjacobs> nope
[09:41] <mena> ikonia, yes
[09:41] <ikonia> LucianSolaris worked !
[09:42] <jpjacobs> SoulChild, for it to be deactivated at boot you"ll have to remove the auto statement at the eth0 line in .etc/networking/interfaces
[09:42] <LucianSolaris> ok, can i send something signed to you?
[09:42] <jpjacobs> thats /etc...
[09:42] <ikonia> LucianSolaris I don't have access to my email at the moment
[09:42] <ikonia> I'm on a remote box
[09:42] <SoulChild> jpjacobs thanks
[09:42] <jpjacobs> np
[09:43] <Rageagainstthis> I am trying to install ubuntu on a inspiron 8200, the problem is that it will not go beyond the partition screen.  Also which may be the cause it tells that ubuntu couldnt mount swap.  The machine only has 256 memory to begin with
[09:44] <phr34ck> hey, I have recently installed LAMP. am I safe? I mean, can anyone from the Internet connect to my apache serve or something ?
[09:44] <DeltaStorm> I just want to say that ubuntu and the whole linux and open-source community is FANTASTIC, a hell of a lot better than crappy windows! :) Long live open-source!! :)
[09:44] <ikonia> phr34ck depends on your network configuration
[09:44] <n2diy> Rageagainstthis: what version of Ubuntu?
[09:44] <MuffY> !repeat | phr34ck
[09:44] <ikonia> DeltaStorm typical l33t want to be comment
[09:44] <ubotu> phr34ck: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:44] <phr34ck> DeltaStorm, Ubuntu rules them all.
[09:44] <Rageagainstthis> 6.10
[09:45] <Rageagainstthis> 6.06 doesnt even boot
[09:45] <phr34ck> MuffY, well nobody answered. And so somebody answered when I repeated.
[09:45] <phr34ck> ikonia, like how?
[09:45] <n2diy> Rageagainstthis: 256m is minimum for 6.06, don't know what 6.10 requires?
[09:45] <ikonia> phr34ck if you don't know if you machine is connected to the internet or not - you should really look at your security and ask if you should be installing lamp
[09:45] <mattions_dinner> phr34ck: look at "/etc/apache2/http.conf if there is written: Listen 127.0.0.1 anybody can connect to your apache
[09:46] <MuffY> phr34ck: it's still unpolite ti just copy past
[09:46] <jrib> phr34ck: unless you have a firewall up
[09:46] <Rageagainstthis> well when you boot up a live cd, dont you get a certain amount of swap loaded as well?
[09:46] <phr34ck> MuffY, I didn't copy/paste .. I scrolled up =)
[09:46] <ikonia> phr34ck we can't know your config and network config
[09:46] <MuffY> phr34ck: that's the same >_>
[09:47] <phr34ck> MuffY, I know .. I was being sarcastic.
[09:47] <I-kido> scan your ports: http://www.speedguide.net/scan.php
[09:47] <phr34ck> ikonia, so I have to check my network configuration/.
[09:47] <DeltaStorm> yeah, if only more people would use ubuntu I think the way to attract user would be to automatize ubuntu like (automatic installation program (setup like in win next>next>next) better support for hardware and a couple of good games on linux) and people would swap to linux lightning fast, abandoning that buggy,unsecure, incrediby unstable microsft demon! :)
[09:47] <Rageagainstthis> n2diy: do you think the alternative cd would be a solution?
[09:47] <ikonia> phr34ck well - if your machine is on the internet and your apache session is listening - people can access it
[09:47] <CheshireViking> Rageagainstthis: following up what n2diy said about memory, I've got ubuntu 6.1 installed on an Inspiron 8100 with 256Meg of ram with no problems
[09:47] <MuffY> phr34ck: i'm in a nad mood, sorry for being a dork, i can't help it right now =p
[09:47] <ikonia> DeltaStorm what a weak comment
[09:48] <MuffY> bad mood**
[09:48] <DeltaStorm> why?
[09:48] <Rageagainstthis> CheshireViking:  strange.....i saw someone had the exact problems i did in the forums unresolved
[09:48] <phr34ck> MuffY, it's okay mate.
[09:48] <javb> i need a program like MS paint in Ubuntu for my son. (Dont laught people)
[09:48] <MuffY> <3
[09:48] <ikonia> DeltaStorm because its nosense
[09:48] <phr34ck> Trust me, it helps a lot to repeat the question twice in here ;p
[09:48] <phr34ck> I always do it.
[09:48] <ikonia> javb tuxpaint
[09:48] <Rageagainstthis> javb:  tuxpaint
[09:48] <jrib> javb: tuxpaint
[09:48] <n2diy> Rageagainstthis: it is worth a try. I've had success installing 5.10 on machines with 196m, and then installing 6.06 on top of 5.10.
[09:48] <javb> Thanks a lot.
[09:48] <juano> javb: GNU paint
[09:49] <ikonia> phr34ck no it doesn't - its rude and will get you banned
[09:49] <ikonia> don't ask the question twice
[09:49] <javb> Thanks guys... which one is better..?
[09:49] <Flannel> Rageagainstthis: alternate CD is almost always a good solution ;)
[09:49] <ikonia> javb I like tuxpaint - simple
[09:49] <phr34ck> ikonia, that's new to know. I'm not like repeating it gazillion of time. As you saw, repeating it "from time to time"
[09:49] <jrib> javb: let your son pick :)
[09:49] <phr34ck> anyway, I have to figure out if I'm secure or not.
[09:49] <juano> javb: never tried tux paint, i got GNU paint.. cant tell :P
[09:49] <Tox> hi where i could find the dictionaries for opendic ?
[09:49] <Thug-N-Me> how come that in my windows machine i can see the shared directory from ubuntu, but in ubuntu i cannot see the windows shared directory ? any help please
[09:50] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me so you have the samba daemons running
[09:50] <juano> Thug-N-Me: how is your Samba configured?
[09:50] <mrcucumber> Any Twinview pro's out their? My modelines doesn't seem to work quite right
[09:50] <juano> Thug-N-Me: edit /etc/samba/smb.conf and change security = user to secutiry = share
[09:50] <n2diy> phr34ck: you have your box scanned at grc.com/shields up.
[09:50] <Thug-N-Me> juano i just shared a directory that can be accessed only in local network
[09:50] <DigitalNinja> How do I find out what plugins I have installed in Firefox?
[09:51] <jrib> DigitalNinja: about:plugins
[09:51] <DeltaStorm> why? I'm saying this from experience for example. Couple of my friends were hardcore windows users and they tried ubuntu, and at the first look they were confused (command lines, source code... hard to begin for first time user who were used to next>next>next) so they gave up and switched back to windows saying that it was to hard... :(
[09:51] <riotkittie> wee. i just ended up with 20 instances of firefox running
[09:51] <Thug-N-Me> juano i did that already  samba works great
[09:51] <der0b> phr34ck: are you connected directly to your modem or do you have a router between you and the modem?
[09:51] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia yeah samba works fine
[09:51] <ikonia> DeltaStorm please don't talk rubbish
[09:51] <Thug-N-Me> juano i wanna access windows shared dir from ubuntu
[09:51] <Flannel> !samba | Thug-N-Me
[09:51] <ubotu> Thug-N-Me: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:51] <juano> Thug-N-Me: can you access your windows share by ip number?
[09:52] <Rageagainstthis> flannel:  i will be trying out the alternate cd now.   Thanks
[09:52] <riotkittie> its as hard as you make it
[09:52] <khahr> hi, i'm trying to listen some music through a flash-applet running in web browser. however, whenever i do something in the graphical environment (resize windows, open new apps, use the other apps etc.), the music playback is momentarily interrupted. how can i fix this? should i start the web browser with higher priority or something, and if that's the proper solution, how exactly should i do that?
[09:52] <phr34ck> der0b, forgive my ignorance but all I know is that I have a network cable coming from my ISP.
[09:52] <DigitalNinja> jrib: Thanks
[09:52] <ikonia> juano ahh of course - resolution
[09:52] <logivision> DeltaStorm: I'm not sure what your refering to, but i'm a hardcore window's user and I'm switching to use both Window's and Linux (both for different reasons) and I don't find it that hard at all
[09:52] <juano> Thug-N-Me: try $IPWINNUMBER/$share in nautilus
[09:52] <riotkittie> if youre willing to read a little, and seek out help, its a lot easier.
[09:52] <Thug-N-Me> juano i might have to change something in /etc/hosts.allow ?
[09:52] <DigitalNinja> I've got realplayer installed. Will that work with Windows media files?
[09:52] <javb> People.. new in Ubuntu. I used to use Alt + 162 for an 'o' with '`' .. Here? how?
[09:52] <javb> ASCII ?
[09:52] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me nah - try juano comment
[09:52] <jrib> DigitalNinja: no, I recommend mplayer plugin in the mozilla-mplaye rpackage found in multiverse
[09:53] <der0b> phr34ck: what's your IP address if you do an ifconfig
[09:53] <ikonia> der0b its going to be a private nat
[09:53] <Thug-N-Me> juano doesnt work
[09:53] <juano> yes, in /etc/hosts actually, try adding $ipnumwinmachine $winmachinename (one beside the other)
[09:53] <tonyyarusso> On a Dell Inspiron 5100 laptop, KDE works fine, but in Gnome a) buttons (OK and the like) have a grid of little spots over them, which go away when you mouse over the first time, after which it is fine; b) in OOo, the buttons (copy,paste,etc) appear initially when it loads, but after a second disappear.  Mousing over shows them, but they disappear again when you mouse off.
[09:53] <DigitalNinja> jrib: I had that.
[09:53] <jrib> DigitalNinja: (along with w32codecs)
[09:53] <variant> DigitalNinja: your best bet is videolan (vlc) but wmv or wma that is infected with DRM will not play on gnu/linux
[09:53] <DigitalNinja> jrib: I had all of that
[09:53] <tonyyarusso> That's on Dapper, btw ^^
[09:53] <javb> ASCII ?
[09:53] <javb> People.. new in Ubuntu. I used to use Alt + 162 for an 'o' with '`' .. Here? how?
[09:53] <khahr> I-kido: sorry, no
[09:53] <treitter> does anyone have experience with pivot_root? I'm having a pretty hard time getting it to work properly
[09:53] <jrib> DigitalNinja: what do you have now?
[09:53] <I-kido> ok
[09:53] <n2diy> javb: ctrl+shift+u
[09:53] <ikonia> javb don't keep repeating the question
[09:53] <logivision> !repeat | javb
[09:53] <ubotu> javb: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:53] <phr34ck> der0b, , is it a good thing to give your IP in public ?
[09:53] <ikonia> you said it less than 20 seconds ago
[09:53] <riotkittie> jav > try CTRL + SHIFT + THE unicode number. if you dont the unicode, try google.
[09:54] <ikonia> phr34ck ha ha ha, you really need to think about what your doing
[09:54] <juano> Thug-N-Me: also in lmhosts in windows\system32\drivers\etc do the same, add both lines one for win machine and one for ubuntu machine
[09:54] <riotkittie> err.
[09:54] <logivision> phr34ck: i wouldn't worry about it ... ;)
[09:54] <der0b> phr34ck: it's not like it's secret info..  I just need to know if it's a NAT IP or a public.
[09:54] <jpjacobs> javb, there is a character map buildin in gnome, maybe you can use that?
[09:54] <juano> Thug-N-Me: you will have to do smbd stop then smb start to change effects
[09:54] <phr34ck> tis a NAT IP.
[09:54] <phr34ck> I think, public looked weird ;p
[09:54] <javb> jpjacobs .. Need something easier and faster like the Alt + ... in MS
[09:54] <Thug-N-Me> juano ok i try it, i did restart it every time i changed something in it
[09:55] <DeltaStorm> you have more patience, and experience probably (i to use ubuntu and win, I use win ONLY for games cuz that  what is only good for) but imagine a newbie at computers, what should he take win (next > next >next full manual) or ubuntu (needs to learn commands and a advanced computer usage) i love ubuntu but I'm just talking logically. :)
[09:55] <DigitalNinja> jrib: I guess I don't have anything. I'm looking for a way to play Windows media without violating any laws
[09:55] <phr34ck> well, whois me, and then resolve my IP that should give you my ISP IP =)
[09:55] <der0b> phr34ck: then unless you opened ports on your router, you're fine.
[09:55] <juano> Thug-N-Me: thats good.. lets see if it works
[09:55] <javb> Why? well, the spanish dictionary in OOo is horrible.. i ll have to correct my text myself
[09:55] <ikonia> DeltaStorm your talking rubbish
[09:55] <jrib> DigitalNinja: well I can help you troubleshoot mplayer plugin with w32codecs
[09:55] <der0b> phr34ck: if you don't know that you have a router, chances are slim that you've opened them
[09:55] <phr34ck> der0b, is what I said correct ?
[09:55] <variant> DigitalNinja: unless your in the US or the UK then you can remove the DRM from files you have purchased your self
[09:55] <logivision> * [phr34ck]  (n=phr34ck@194.126.30.130): Ali koubeissi
[09:55] <DeltaStorm> ... dude...
[09:55] <variant> DigitalNinja: without breaking any laws
[09:55] <logivision> it's not secret information
[09:55] <Juhaz> javb, ctrl+alt+u+f+9
[09:56] <riotkittie> anyone who owns a computer should know how to use or be willing to learn to use it. this includes windows users.
[09:56] <DigitalNinja> variant: I'm in the US
[09:56] <der0b> I didn't want to make him nervous by pasting that logivision :P
[09:56] <Juhaz> javb, er, f+a
[09:56] <phr34ck> logivision, that's me alright. Allthought my IP address is wrong ;p
[09:56] <jpjacobs> javb, in linux X you have composekeys... dunno really how to use/enable those, but you can googl for that
[09:56] <variant> DigitalNinja: well you would be breaking the law if you fix the files by removing the DRM infections
[09:56] <der0b> phr34ck: that's your public IP.
[09:56] <logivision> der0b>: lol, he needed to know anyways
[09:56] <phr34ck> der0b, I'm not "THAT" ignorant. I have some knowledge.
[09:56] <ikonia> lets attack it
[09:56] <der0b> :)
[09:56] <phr34ck> der0b, yeah.
[09:56] <juano> Thug-N-Me: ah one more thing, you should have an entry for a shared folder in your /etc/samba/smb.conf like this to rw from windows http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/985/
[09:57] <phr34ck> hey, attack me.
[09:57] <riotkittie> but i like people who are all "omgwtf compuuuuuuuuuuuter!" because they are willing to pay for ridiculously mundane things
[09:57] <ikonia> ok
[09:57] <phr34ck> I want to feel the pain of getting attacked by a skilled person.
[09:57] <DigitalNinja> variant: #$&
[09:57] <javb> Thanks guys.
[09:57] <ikonia> phr34ck your ISP probably makes it very hard to get in
[09:57] <der0b> what pain, you're nat'd..  no worries
[09:57] <javb> Maybe the name 'compose keys is what was missing'
[09:57] <ikonia> most isp's are reasonable
[09:58] <variant> DigitalNinja: vlc will play all media files (unless they have DRM of course)
[09:58] <logivision> it has nothign to do with the ISP if the user is a moron
[09:58] <phr34ck> ummm. but I live in a country that doesn't even know how to set up a DSL.
[09:58] <variant> DigitalNinja: apt-get install vlc
[09:58] <der0b> didn't mean to insult phr34ck, I don't know how much you know :)
[09:58] <phr34ck> I don't think my ISP is smart
[09:58] <logivision> phr34ck: you live in the USA ?
[09:58] <phr34ck> der0b, it's okay mate. worries.
[09:58] <houman> hi there, does anyone know how to use freenx to see the screen of the eixsting user instead of logging in as a new user?
[09:58] <phr34ck> logivision, neeh. A country that you probably never heard of.
[09:58] <DigitalNinja> variant: Will it play windows media with out the w32codecs?
[09:58] <Thug-N-Me> juano ok , well in windows works fine i have problems accessing the windows shared dir in ubuntu
[09:58] <riotkittie> phr34ck: what country would that be ?
[09:58] <variant> DigitalNinja: yeah
[09:58] <phr34ck> tis a small country "10452 km^2" called Lebanon.
[09:58] <Flannel> javb: what keyboard layout are you using?
[09:58] <phr34ck> no worries**
[09:58] <variant> DigitalNinja: vlc has built in support for virtualy all codecs
[09:58] <houman> phr34ck: keef akhbaar
[09:58] <ikonia> phr34ck  I know it well
[09:59] <javb> Flannel English.
[09:59] <javb> US
[09:59] <phr34ck> ikonia,  damn it !
[09:59] <riotkittie> lol. Lebanon. and here i thought you meant something, well, obscure.
[09:59] <juano> Thug-N-Me: did you add win pc ip address and name in /etc/hosts ?
[09:59] <DigitalNinja> variant: I'll give it a try
[09:59] <phr34ck> how do you know it?
[09:59] <Thug-N-Me> juano  from windows i can see the ubuntu shared dir but from here i cannot see the windows shared directory .... let me add the windows ip to /etc/hos...
[09:59] <ikonia> phr34ck quite a famous country
[09:59] <phr34ck> Each time someone asks me about my country, they go like "where is that"
[09:59] <variant> DigitalNinja: there is a windows media player 11 theme for vlc if you like :)
[09:59] <phr34ck> ikonia, after the war with Israel, maybe ;p
[09:59] <Thug-N-Me> juano i will now2 sec
[09:59] <juano> Thug-N-Me: ok
[10:00] <ikonia> phr34ck yup thats part of it, but I digress
[10:00] <phr34ck> so I went to www.grc.com .. now what?
[10:00] <DigitalNinja> variant: I'll take a look at it
[10:00] <kozmic> are there any mirrors of security.ubuntu.com ? au.security.ubuntu.com didnt work well..
[10:00] <n2diy> phr34ck: click on Shields Up.
[10:00] <houman> i have a freenx question, can anyone help?
[10:00] <phr34ck> what's digress ?
[10:00] <ikonia> phr34ck don't worry about it, your natted
[10:00] <Thug-N-Me> juano works . thanks a lot
[10:01] <ikonia> kozmic tons, it just installs the one cloest to you at install time
[10:01] <juano> Thug-N-Me: great
[10:01] <phr34ck> Shields up
[10:01] <phr34ck> n2diy, then ?
[10:01] <juano> Thug-N-Me: no prob
[10:01] <variant> DigitalNinja: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/features.html
[10:01] <sidny4> what's the command to kill a process?
[10:01] <n2diy> phr34ck: read!?
[10:01] <ikonia> kill
[10:01] <sidny4> oh, the one I didn't try
[10:01] <phr34ck> I am, but it's all software and stuff. Where is the scan ?
[10:02] <neghsmoke> when you install a windows program with wine to the Program Files directory, where do the files actually go
[10:02] <xorg62> s what there is another extension for the xorg.conf that "composite" "enable" to give the rendering has yes with pilot ATI fglrx into dual screen (on # ubuntu-Fr it does not find)
[10:02] <juano> Thug-N-Me: shares can be quite tricky sometimes, usually takes a while for PC's to refresh
[10:02] <ikonia> phr34ck you don't need to scan
[10:02] <variant> sidny4: killall processname if you just want to kill a named proccess (kill requires a pid as argument)
[10:02] <phr34ck> ahh, found it
[10:02] <kozmic> ikonia: i wasn't asked during install. Arent there some command like 'mirror-select' ? cant remember the exact name..
[10:02] <phr34ck> ikonia, I'm just curious about it
[10:02] <variant> sidny4: so for example "killall firefox-bin" will kill firefox
[10:02] <ikonia> phr34ck it won't show anything forget it
[10:02] <Thug-N-Me> juano yeah i prob hat the same problem here
[10:02] <ikonia> kozmic I just change sources.list
[10:02] <phr34ck> meh, I hate that.
[10:03] <phr34ck> How am I suppose to experienced if I never been hacked !!! ????
[10:03] <kozmic> ikonia: yeah, i tried but it didnt work. maybe try some other contry instead..
[10:03] <ikonia> phr34ck  drop the topic
[10:03] <sidny4> ok, thanks variant
[10:03] <juano> Thug-N-Me: usually its important to determine dhcp and dns well
[10:03] <phr34ck> ikonia, okay.
[10:04] <xorg62> please =)
[10:04] <ikonia> what ?
[10:04] <tonyyarusso> On a Dell Inspiron 5100 laptop, KDE works fine, but in Gnome a) buttons (OK and the like) have a grid of little spots over them, which go away when you mouse over the first time, after which it is fine; b) in OOo, the buttons (copy,paste,etc) appear initially when it loads, but after a second disappear.  Mousing over shows them, but they disappear again when you mouse off.  [Dapper] 
[10:04] <freacky22527> xorg62: salut ^^
[10:04] <xorg62> salut
[10:05] <juano> im having an issue with my amsn webcam, since im routed it sais firewalled or behind a router, doesnt seem to work fine now
[10:05] <freacky22527> xorg62: still this dual screen problem?
[10:06] <juano> i hear about opening ports for it, except i tried opening them in my winxp machine and from iptables, not much luck
[10:06] <xorg62> yes
[10:06] <ikonia> juano you'll probably need to forward if your natted
[10:06] <Mikey> argh, quit b4 mistake :@
[10:07] <freacky22527> xorg62: what is the problem? it doesn't work?
[10:07] <juano> ikonia: yeah, except i tried iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT, dunno really
[10:07] <xorg62> when i put the extension in the xorg X bug with the demarrage
[10:07] <DigitalNinja> variant is there a Firefox plugin for VLC?
[10:07] <xorg62> (sorry i'm french)
[10:07] <freacky22527> xorg62: so am im ^^
[10:07] <freacky22527> mouhahaha
[10:07] <n2diy> ! fr | xorg62
[10:07] <ubotu> xorg62: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:07] <juano> i should try echo 1 > /etc/procsys/..., what do you think ikonia?
[10:08] <xorg62> lol freacky22527
[10:08] <tonyyarusso> DigitalNinja: I think there is
[10:08] <ikonia> juano you won't need ip_forward
[10:08] <DigitalNinja> tonyyarusso: Do you know what it is?
[10:08] <juano> ikonia: i see
[10:08] <juano> ikonia: port forwarding?
[10:08] <freacky22527> n2diy: if xorg62 is on this chan it's because his problem hadn't be solved on #ubuntu-fr...
[10:08] <tonyyarusso> DigitalNinja: Here we go, mozilla-plugin-vlc
[10:08] <ikonia> juano no the proc paramter ip_forward you won't need
[10:09] <ikonia> but your router will need to forward for you if your ip is natted
[10:09] <DigitalNinja> tonyyarusso: Thanks
[10:09] <Tomatix> I hate my computer, it really wont cooperate with me anymore :(
[10:09] <cowbud> for the sake
[10:09] <cowbud> the sacrafice
[10:09] <xorg62> thank freacky22527
[10:09] <baastrup> what is the best bittorrent client
[10:09] <n2diy> freacky22527: 10-4
[10:09] <cableroy> witch site can i download themes from, witch is easy to install with ubuntu's theme preferences?
[10:09] <[ithaycu] > azureus
[10:09] <ikonia> cableroy gome-look.org
[10:10] <phr34ck> OpenOffice is not available in the repository ?
[10:10] <freacky22527> n2diy: ?
[10:10] <lupine_85> !info openoffice.org edgy
[10:10] <ubotu> openoffice.org: OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 3 kB, installed size 28 kB
[10:10] <mattions> phr34ck: yes
[10:10] <ikonia> phr34ck es it is
[10:10] <cowbud> rarrRR
[10:10] <lupine_85> *shrug*
[10:10] <n2diy> freacky22527: 10-4 = ok.
[10:10] <javb> People, none of the programs liked to my son.
[10:10] <javb> Any other option?
[10:10] <javb> to paint
[10:11] <phr34ck> sudo apt-get install openoffice does not work.
[10:11] <javb> instead of Tuxpaint, and gpaint?
[10:11] <OrTigaS> i just installed edgy....how to adjust to higher resolution of my monitor its just only 1024x768....
[10:11] <juano> phr34ck: try enabling multiverse and universe repos
[10:11] <phr34ck> it says package not found
[10:11] <ikonia> javb how many options to you want
[10:11] <freacky22527> n2diy: 10-4 ^^ thanks ;)
[10:11] <cowbud> phr34ck: use synaptic it is easier
[10:11] <phr34ck> juano, already enabled.
[10:11] <jrib> javb: does he like mspaint?
[10:11] <ikonia> phr34ck probably looking in the rong repo
[10:11] <lucasvo> hi
[10:11] <ikonia> wrong
[10:11] <juano> phr34ck: cowbud is right, synaptic is good
[10:11] <lucasvo> anyone know how  can install ubuntu server as a xen guestsystem?
[10:11] <phr34ck> but me like terminal.
[10:11] <javb> jrib, just a kid. i want him to be as equal as he was in mspaint.
[10:11] <cowbud> phr34ck: the reason why it isn't working is because you are using the wrong package name
[10:11] <ikonia> phr34ck bu tyou don't know how ot use it
[10:11] <cowbud> phr34ck: apt-cache search openoffice or apitude saerch openoffice
[10:12] <ikonia> either learn how to use it - or use the gui
[10:12] <javb> gpaint is kind of... but doesnt work the same way
[10:12] <jrib> javb: you can always run mspaint through wine if he doesn't like any of the linux ones
[10:12] <cowbud> phr34ck: and in this case aptitude install OpenOffice.org or apt-get install packagename
[10:12] <juano> phr34ck: could be named another way
[10:12] <jpjacobs> jaavb, i bet you can get paint to work under wine...
[10:12] <javb> is there any other..
[10:12] <ikonia> javb seems a bit excessive
[10:12] <OrTigaS> anyone can help?
[10:12] <phr34ck> ummm, all I need is the package name ?
[10:12] <cowbud> aptitude is the preferred way now a days..
[10:12] <javb> dont wanna use wine.
[10:12] <ikonia> javb you've got 2 good ones
[10:12] <cowbud> phr34ck: umn that's right
[10:12] <phr34ck> cowbud, and the package name is ?
[10:12] <lupine_85> ...
[10:12] <ikonia> phr34ck learn how to search
[10:12] <lupine_85>  [21:10]  <ubotu> openoffice.org: OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 3 kB,
[10:12] <ikonia> you've been give the command to search
[10:12] <phr34ck> ikonia,  okay
[10:13] <jpjacobs> phr34ck, you can searhc it with apt-cache search <search term>
[10:13] <jrib> javb: there's a kde one, but I don't know the name
[10:13] <OrTigaS> again.... i just installed edgy....how to adjust to higher resolution of my monitor its just only 1024x768....
[10:13] <cowbud> phr34ck: read your history I told you it all
[10:13] <juano> phr34ck: google.com ---> open office ubuntu package name
[10:13] <phr34ck> Okay, will do that.
[10:13] <BULLE> anyone happen to know if there is nxclient avaiable for 6.10 ? the nomachien homepage only have it for 5.10 and 6.06
[10:13] <javb> jrib i think thats the one i saw one.
[10:13] <javb> krita ?\
[10:13] <jrib> javb: sure try that, or maybe kolourpaint?
[10:13] <jrib> javb: xpaint
[10:14] <ikonia> javb xpaint is good and simple
[10:14] <OrTigaS> back!
[10:14] <DigitalNinja> Either VLC doesn't work or its just not working for me.
[10:15] <DigitalNinja> I went to http://www.vdat.com/techsupport/windowstest.asp and got (no picture)
[10:15] <dromer> hmm, so I'm using this guide to install projectM for amarok: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/ProjectM_HowTo  but at the libvisual plugin I get this on ./configure : checking for libvisual >= 0.2.0... configure: error: *** libvisual not found.  << and I have 0.2 and 0.4 installed !
[10:15] <juano> anyone know a goog utility to open rar archives?
[10:15] <juano> good*
[10:16] <jrib> !rar | juano
[10:16] <ubotu> juano: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[10:16] <ikonia> juano unrar
[10:16] <spec_> Is mysql when installed (Dapper) bound to localhost only?
[10:16] <cowbud> unrar
[10:16] <juano> thanks!
[10:16] <OrTigaS> just installed edgy... hot to adjust my resolution?
[10:16] <ikonia> spec_ no
[10:16] <OrTigaS> how*
[10:16] <spec_> ikonia: know how to make it so?
[10:16] <jrib> OrTigaS: I told you earlier
[10:16] <ikonia> change the config
[10:16] <amee2k> hi all
[10:16] <OrTigaS> jrib:  just disconnected
[10:16] <jrib> !fixres | OrTigaS
[10:16] <ubotu> OrTigaS: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:16] <OrTigaS> didnt saw
[10:17] <amee2k> when will seamonkey be officially in the repo?
[10:17] <ikonia> don't know
[10:17] <spec_> ikonia: do you happen to know which option/which config? debian.cnf or my.cnf?
[10:17] <ikonia> debian.cnf ?
[10:17] <ikonia> on ubuntu
[10:17] <spec_> yeah
[10:17] <ikonia> ?
[10:17] <spec_> on ubuntu there's a debian.cnf
[10:17] <ikonia> never seen that
[10:17] <spec_> under /etc/mysql
[10:17] <Pat___> hello, I am using the nvidia procreatory driver on ubuntu 6.10 but I don't know which version, how do I check ?
[10:17] <spec_> says things like: host = localhost
[10:17] <ikonia> its my.cnf
[10:18] <OrTigaS> i did that "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" and it just goes to black screen with cursor....
[10:18] <jrib> OrTigaS: read what ubotu says
[10:18] <OrTigaS> okay
[10:18] <spec_> ikonia: in my.cnf i see a line that says "bind-address 127.0.0.1"
[10:18] <spec_> ikonia: this means it is bound to localhost by default?
[10:18] <pike_> dromer: libvisual-0.4-dev   is installed? or just libvisual-0.4?
[10:18] <ikonia> spec_ well that looks like it is only localhost
[10:18] <ikonia> I didn't think it did that by detault
[10:19] <ikonia> default
[10:19] <lunaphyte_> sigh.  why the f does libapache2-mod-php5 insist it needs apache2-mpm-prefork?  what is wrong with apache2-mpm-worker?
[10:19] <neghsmoke> If I install a program via wine to c:
[10:19] <dromer> pike_: hmm, at least  libvisual-0.4
[10:19] <neghsmoke> foldername
[10:19] <neghsmoke> ugghh
[10:19] <spec_> ikonia: do you understand the output of netstat?
[10:19] <cherva> if i install Krfb will I be able to acess my X form the internet like VNC in WIN
[10:19] <ikonia> I do
[10:19] <spec_> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:3306          0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN     3101/mysqld
[10:19] <neghsmoke> if i install a program using wine to the c drive, where can that be found in the file system
[10:19] <ikonia> spec_ localhost only
[10:19] <spec_> excellent, thanks :)
[10:20] <logivision> what's a good brute force program for linux
[10:20] <tonyyarusso> How to get "Shut Down" button back in the logout button in Dapper?
[10:20] <pike_> neghsmoke: .wine/drive_c
[10:20] <neghsmoke> i can't find .wine
[10:20] <mnoir> logivision: you mean like 'kill' or 'shutdown'?
[10:20] <pike_> logivision: thc-hydra?
[10:20] <Mikey> i need help, but i cant ask the question because its long to explain. its about ralink cardbus wifi card and WPA network
[10:20] <logivision> pike_: thanks, that's the one i was thinking of
[10:20] <dromer> pike_: I still get the error, I gues I need the 0.2-dev?
[10:20] <mikelo> can i play flv files with flashplayer? if so how?
[10:21] <mikelo> how can i play .act sound files?
[10:21] <logivision> pike_: do you know if it's in the repiratories  ?
[10:22] <pike_> logivision: not sure i dont think its in edgy .4
[10:22] <kozmic> are there any security.ubuntu.com mirrors? (i've added my country code infront of archive, like no.archive.ubuntu.com), but no.security.ubuntu.com doesnt exist, anyone know of any security mirrors, or where i can find them?
[10:22] <dimitrius> helo
[10:22] <dromer> pike_: yup, that was it :)
[10:22] <logivision> pike_: i'm still on dapper drake
[10:22] <mnoir> logivision: if you use synaptic, you can search name, desc of packages in the repo
[10:23] <logivision> mnoir: yea i'm doing that right now thanks. the PC i'm running on right now is deadly slow, so it takes a while to search...
[10:23] <marola> hi people anybody install ubuntu on vaio pcgz1wa?
[10:23] <marola> ?
[10:23] <pike_> dromer: dapper should have 0.2 acording to packages.ubuntu.org cant check myself not on ubuntu right now
[10:23] <mnoir> logivision: interesting - i have found the one deadly slow thing on mine is loading the datbase in synaptic.
[10:24] <marola> hi people anybody install ubuntu on vaio pcgz1wa?
[10:24] <logivision> mnoir: loading it, and searching, both!
[10:24] <dromer> pike_: yes, I just needed the 0.2-dev to get it working .. well, the error is gone now, don't know if amarok will detect the visualisation :P
[10:24] <ikonia> marola we saw you ask less than 10 seconds ago
[10:24] <mnoir> :)
[10:24] <logivision> mnoir: anyways, i have to download it an install it from the source.... that's going to be a pain, first time doing it!
[10:24] <marola> humm
[10:24] <neghsmoke> pike_: the program that i installed via wina is running fine, as it opened itself after installation, but the .lnk files don't work, and I don't see a .wine folder anywhere in my filesystem
[10:24] <marola> thanks
[10:24] <cedric30> Hello
[10:24] <nata> Hi
[10:24] <Jordan_U> What is the diference between libdvdcss and libdvdcss2 ?
[10:24] <ZeckOwner> Hello
[10:24] <mirak> is it possible to debootstrap debian from an ubuntu ?
[10:25] <mnoir> logivision: i have not even figured out how to get synaptic to d/l source
[10:25] <ZeckOwner> Is it possible to install a partition of ubuntu (like 20gb of my hd) to my Windows XP Home computer without having to put the .osi onto a disk?
[10:25] <ZeckOwner> iso*
[10:26] <logivision> mnoir: it wasn't on synaptic, it was off their site
[10:26] <neghsmoke> zeck - what's wrong with putting the iso on a disk? no burner?
[10:26] <nata> I'm trying to find a driver for my I-A16C (ISA) Soundcard...could anyone help me?
[10:26] <MindFreek> Question: How do I go from a TERMINAL back to GNOME
[10:26] <logivision> anybody know how to brute force through a random program?? ( in this case PC Anywhere)
[10:27] <ZeckOwner> @neghsmoke, no, i have a disk, but it takes long and my disk drive quits after too long
[10:27] <pike_> ZeckOwner: common options should be here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[10:27] <marola> anyone have a ubuntu 6.10 on vaio pcgz1wa?
[10:27] <cedric30> I had the wonderful idea to start mozilla-thunderbird in root (sudo mozilla-thunderbird), from now it's sucks at the beginning I have no account, I try to change the right of some directory from root to cedric but it's doesn't operate
[10:27] <cedric30> ?
[10:27] <ikonia> marola stop asking every 30 seconds
[10:27] <ikonia> !patience >marola
[10:27] <Jordan_U> ZeckOwner: You could install via flash drive ( if your BIOS supports USB boot )
[10:27] <marola> hehaheaea
[10:27] <ZeckOwner> i have a flash drive
[10:27] <marola> sorry
[10:27] <ZeckOwner> if i can find my 2gb
[10:27] <cedric30> If someone have an issue.....
[10:28] <ZeckOwner> how long will it take to copy with USB 2.0?
[10:28] <pike_> cedric30: sudo chown -R cedric ~/.mozilla   doesnt work?
[10:28] <ikonia> marola I'm not laughing, I asked you once - and you still continued. Its just rude
[10:28] <neghsmoke> not long
[10:28] <cedric30> pike_: no
[10:28] <CheshireViking> neghsmoke: isn't the .wine folder a hidden folder in the .home folder?
[10:28] <marola> ok
[10:28] <marola> i am sorry
[10:28] <MindFreek> anyone? if I boot into the terminal, how do I load x back up
[10:28] <marola> is my first time
[10:28] <marola> on irc
[10:28] <neghsmoke> CheshireViking: no clue, i'm a linux noob =D
[10:29] <ikonia> marola weak excuse, you can read english, and I asked in english please stop constantly posting
[10:29] <pike_> cedric30: ls -R ~ | grep root maybe
[10:29] <ikonia> MindFreek change the run level
[10:29] <Jordan_U> MindFreek: sudo /etc/init.d gdm restart
[10:29] <marola> ok
[10:29] <marola> i will stop
[10:29] <MindFreek> ok thanks.
[10:29] <ZeckOwner> Jordan_U: you get my msg?
[10:29] <Jordan_U> ZeckOwner: Yes, I don't know
[10:30] <cedric30> pike_: this command report my root directory but there is not my mozilla directory
[10:30] <Matt_At_DeltaSon> how did you "Load into Terminal?
[10:30] <Matt_At_DeltaSon> With X, or just console
[10:30] <logivision> !tarbals
[10:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tarbals - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:30] <CheshireViking> neghsmoke: that makes two of us then, i remember reading something yesterday that it was a hidden folder, maybe try using file browser on the home folder with show hidden folders selected as an option
[10:30] <LjL> !netsplit
[10:30] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[10:30] <logivision> !tarballs
[10:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tarballs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:30] <LjL> !tar | logivision
[10:30] <ubotu> logivision: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[10:31] <lupine_85> w00t
[10:31] <Jordan_U> logivision: are you trying to install something you downloaded from a website?
[10:31] <mnoir> cedric30: if you set up as root, you might find it just easier to abandon the setup and re-setup as the correct user
[10:31] <Matt_At_DeltaSon> Man
[10:31] <neghsmoke> CheshireViknig tried that, not found
[10:31] <ubuntu__> hello
[10:31] <neghsmoke> not in home anyways
[10:31] <ubuntu__> I have a problem
[10:32] <jerp_> does anyone know how to work XStarfish ?
[10:32] <cedric30> mnoir: resetup , you want say reinstall ?
[10:32] <Mikey> !wifi
[10:32] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:32] <ubuntu__> CAn somebody help me,please?
[10:32] <ubuntu__> CAn somebody help me,please?
[10:32] <mnoir> cedric30: no, just run tb as the right user and re-enter account stuff
[10:32] <ikonia> ubuntu__ you have to ask a question to get help
[10:32] <Jordan_U> !ask | ubuntu__
[10:32] <ubotu> ubuntu__: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:32] <ikonia> how can we help you if you don't ask
[10:32] <mnoir> ikonia: vulcan mind meld
[10:32] <neghsmoke> I also need to install my video drivers i guess, because i'm getting bad graphic lag when anything scrolls
[10:33] <ikonia> jedi mind tricks
[10:33] <marola> ikonia
[10:33] <marola> ca i ask you anything
[10:33] <ikonia> marola yes ?
[10:33] <ikonia> marola please ask
[10:33] <Zaggynl> Is there a way to force beagle to scan everything?
[10:33] <Spaghetti_Knife> Hi. I'm trying to play a dvd on my laptop, and the disk starts running before the dvd-rom just stops.
[10:33] <Tox> !edubuntu
[10:33] <ubotu> Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[10:33] <gottreu> does edjy use iptables by default? and if so, what are teh default rules?
[10:34] <Spaghetti_Knife> Nothing pops up on the desktop.
[10:34] <ZeckOwner> That's wierd...
[10:34] <cedric30> mnoir: re enter account and link them to my directory ? but I need to re do my filter on this directory, ?
[10:34] <pike_> gottreu: accept for forward inbound and outbound
[10:34] <ubuntu__> how I can list all irc chanels+
[10:34] <ubuntu__> =
[10:34] <Spaghetti_Knife> And I went to the wiki site, and when I do what they say, there's a line at the end: dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[10:34] <ubuntu__> ?
[10:34] <ikonia> ubuntu__ thats nothing to do with ubuntu
[10:34] <ikonia> but the command is /list
[10:34] <Spaghetti_Knife> Can anybody help me with this?
[10:34] <marola> ok,i have ubuntu 6.10 on my vaio pcgz1wa and the display dont dimmming the lcd when i unpluged the ac power
[10:34] <ubuntu__> thanks!!!
[10:34] <ZeckOwner> DownThemAll! for Windows is download Ubuntu at 157 KB/s while i'ts downloading grub at 4 KB/s
[10:35] <ikonia> marola thats a power managment problem
[10:35] <pike_> ubuntu__: brace yourself
[10:35] <Spaghetti_Knife> Can anybody help me with my dvd playback problem?
[10:35] <ikonia> ubuntu__ try to ask ubuntu releated questions
[10:35] <marola> whre
[10:35] <marola> where?
[10:35] <marola> on foruns?
[10:35] <Spaghetti_Knife> Can anybody help?
[10:35] <ikonia> marola thats a good place to look
[10:35] <raikoug> some one can help me installing codecs?
[10:35] <Jordan_U> Spaghetti_Knife: Can you pastebin the output of the command "mount" when you have the DVD inserted
[10:35] <ikonia> raikoug whats up
[10:36] <mnoir> cedric30: i was only suggesting that if you did not have a lot of setup done already, you prolly would be better off abandoning it.  if that is not the case, just find the mother tb directory in the /root directory and copy it to the same place in your real user, then re-permission it
[10:36] <jerp_> Spaghetti_Knife, sure, anyone can help, I'd think you would want someone qualified though
[10:36] <mnoir> cedric30: be sure to exit tb whilst doing so
[10:36] <raikoug> I have som videos, but when I start them TOTEM say that I have not codecs, and meaybe I need a plugin.. I'm newbie..
[10:36] <Jordan_U> !codecs | raikoug
[10:36] <ubotu> raikoug: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:36] <gottreu> pike_: so the default is wide open, any traffic allowed?
[10:36] <cedric30> mnoir: ok
[10:36] <raikoug> thx
[10:36] <ikonia> raikoug there is a how to on the wiki
[10:37] <raikoug> ok, thx a lot ^^
[10:37] <Spaghetti_Knife> Okay... who do you have in mind, jerp_? And Jordan_U, the pastebin output is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/987/
[10:37] <marola> there is some file that manage the power management
[10:37] <mnoir> cedric30: often folks try to fix stuff when redo is a less painful method
[10:37] <logivision> Jordan_U: yes i am
[10:37] <ikonia> marola I thought you where going to look in the forums ?
[10:37] <MuffY> quick n00b C question, the thing you put before a function declarartion is the return type of the function, right?( "float" in this example>> float function(int m, int n))
[10:37] <ikonia> MuffY this isn't a c# channel
[10:37] <logivision> is there a way to brute force past a specific program? In this case it's PC Anywhere
[10:37] <jerp_> Spaghetti_Knife, who do I have in mind???
[10:37] <ikonia> this is ubuntu support
[10:37] <marola> no
[10:38] <mnoir> MuffY: what language?
[10:38] <jerp_> it's my call?   hmmm
[10:38] <MuffY> mnoir: C
[10:38] <marola> no you didnt told me
[10:38] <cafuego> MuffY: yes
[10:38] <Spaghetti_Knife> jerp_: You were talking about having somebody experienced and qualified tell me what to do.
[10:38] <mnoir> MuffY: yes afaik
[10:38] <cafuego> visual basic is both an exception and not a language ;-)
[10:38] <Jordan_U> logivision: May I ask what? ( there is usually an easier way of installing a program than with a tarball )
[10:38] <MuffY> ikonia: i know, but this isn't a really in dept quewstoin, so i figured at least 30 of you would know :P)
[10:38] <Spaghetti_Knife> Jordan_U, do you have anything in mind for me to do?
[10:38] <ikonia> MuffY why not join a c channel and discuss
[10:38] <MuffY> mnoir, cafuego ty
[10:38] <logivision> Jordan_U: thc-Hydra
[10:39] <MuffY> ikonia: it isn't something discussable
[10:39] <ikonia> its not fair to take the channel to answer your non-ubuntu releated questions
[10:39] <ikonia> MuffY this isn't C support
[10:39] <ikonia> there are C support channels
[10:39] <marola> ikonia:no you didnt told me
[10:39] <mnoir> MuffY: he's right and I should have invited you to #c myself
[10:39] <jerp_> Spaghetti_Knife, I thought you asked for help from anyone.  I was just trying to wake you to the possibility that there are levels of those qualified in here.  (you don't want me top help, I'll let you know that up front)
[10:40] <ikonia> mnoir I'm not tring to be harsh but its like the 5th C question he's asked and there is enough noise in here
[10:40] <marola> ikonia fuck you ,you dont no shit
[10:40] <MuffY> ikonia: ok, sorry for asking a quick question in a channel where nothing else than solving ubuntu-only related issues happens
[10:40] <mnoir> ikonia: naa - you are totally right
[10:40] <Spaghetti_Knife> Jordan_U, did you get my pastebin?
[10:40] <MagiqueM> hi all
[10:40] <gh0st> test
[10:40] <Jordan_U> Spaghetti_Knife: Yes.
[10:40] <gh0st> 
[10:40] <ikonia> nice flood
[10:40] <Spaghetti_Knife> Okay, so what should I do?
[10:40] <MuffY> ikonia: the fifth? what about the first? (the other ones were how to compile any code at all >_>)
[10:41] <MagiqueM> can someone tell me where can i find ubuntu kernel patches?
[10:41] <logivision> Muffy: you should try asking in a programming channel
[10:41] <mnoir> wawazat??
[10:41] <ikonia> MuffY they where C questions
[10:41] <logivision> marloa: i dont' see you helping _anybody_
[10:41] <lunaphyte_> why does libapache2-mod-php5 insist it needs apache2-mpm-prefork?  what's wrong with apache2-mpm-worker?
[10:41] <ikonia> how do I compile C
[10:41] <ikonia> what are the headers I ned
[10:41] <ikonia> need
[10:41] <Tox> is it possible to change desktop from gnome to kde and do not harm system ?
[10:41] <ikonia> etc
[10:41] <LjL> Ubotu, tell ikonia about build-essential | ikonia, see the private message from Ubotu
[10:41] <phr34ck> should I be using a firewall ?
[10:41] <ikonia> LjL I'm aware of that package
[10:41] <LjL> Ubotu, tell tox about kde | tox, see the private message from Ubotu
[10:41] <fbc> is there a way to get root in the gui so that when I right click on folders I can change permissions?
[10:41] <mnoir> lunaphyte_: you might want to direct that question to the php or apache channel
[10:41] <MuffY> ikonia: how do i get the right oackages in UBUNTU to compile C
[10:41] <Jordan_U> logivision: It looks like it isn't in any repo so you will need to compile it, I suggest using autoapt as it automates everything for you
[10:41] <LjL> ikonia: then what's the problem? you can compile C fine if you have that installed
[10:42] <MuffY> ikonia: hmmmm, it doesn;t involve anything on the C language, does it?
[10:42] <logivision> Jordan_U: how do i go abou tthat? that's not the same thing as "automix" is it ?
[10:42] <Spaghetti_Knife> Jordan_U, what should I do?
[10:42] <ikonia> LjL I don't have a problem building programs
[10:42] <CheshireViking> neghsmoke: have you found your .wine directory yet? i just installed wine to look for it,  /home/user/.wine doesn't get created until you've run winecfg in the a terminal, as soon as i ran that, it was created as a hidden directory
[10:42] <logivision> !autoapt
[10:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autoapt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <gh0st> hey, i just wanted to show what fonts ubuntu can show by DEFAULT :-)
[10:42] <cafuego> MuffY: You need 'build-essential' at least.
[10:42] <ikonia> MuffY I disagree, but for future reference please stop asking C questions then
[10:42] <jerp_> Does someone know how to post the information necessary to get XStarfish to work?  and would they?
[10:42] <Jordan_U> logivision: No, it isn't I am getting a link now that explains it
[10:42] <LjL> !auto-apt | logivision
[10:42] <ubotu> auto-apt: package search by file and on-demand package installation tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.20 (edgy), package size 44 kB, installed size 216 kB
[10:42] <ikonia> gh0st that was stupid
[10:42] <mnoir> !tell muffy about build
[10:42] <MuffY> ikonia: i know what headers i need, the only thing i asked was HOW to let ubuntu fuind them, get them
[10:42] <ikonia> we didn't need to see it
[10:42] <neghsmoke> that's weird cheshire because the program is running right now
[10:42] <neghsmoke> it opened itself during installation
[10:42] <Jordan_U> logivision: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutoApt
[10:42] <Tox> i know that .. i just want to change permanently my gnome to kde how to do it ?
[10:42] <gh0st> ikonia: don't be to upset about such unimportant things
[10:43] <Mikey> how do i enter WEP key in command like?
[10:43] <logivision> Jordan_U: Thanks
[10:43] <LjL> MuffY: use auto-apt or apt-file to find the relevant package
[10:43] <math_> hello, I got a message from synaptic to upgrade, Im using 6.10, is this an upgrade to feisty fawn??
[10:43] <ikonia> gh0st what flooding the channels
[10:43] <ikonia> pretty important
[10:43] <Mikey> like using AuthMode=???
[10:43] <gh0st> ikonia: ONE line?
[10:43] <cafuego> ikonia: You can always use /ignore.
[10:43] <LjL> gh0st: and you don't spam. use #ubuntu-bots or #gh0st or whatever
[10:43] <ikonia> gh0st in your client - i have a text based client so it flooeded my whole screan
[10:43] <raikoug> ikonia, sorry but I can't understand anything... maybe for totem I ned to install the codec for gstreamer but how? he make it easy!
[10:43] <mnoir> math_: prolly not - it is updates to various things in 6.10
[10:43] <ikonia> screen
[10:43] <math_> mnoir, thank u
[10:44] <ikonia> raikoug the link gives you the exact commands
[10:44] <MagiqueM> where can i find ubuntu kernel patches?
[10:44] <raikoug> ...
[10:44] <MuffY> everyone: i'm not asking questions anymore, it was some past trouble i *had*, which i brought up to clear up some false things some person in here said, but thanks for telling anyway
[10:44] <fbc> is there a way to get root in the gui so that when I right click on folders I can change permissions?
[10:44] <Spaghetti_Knife> Ordan_U, can you help me, or are you waiting to finish with logivision first?
[10:44] <LjL> math_: no
[10:44] <gh0st> ikonia: ok, didn't know that you were using a client last updated in '98
[10:44] <raikoug> ikonia, :(
[10:44] <math_> mnoir, is it safe to upgrade
[10:44] <mnoir> math_: pls take care about the words update and upgrade
[10:44] <Jordan_U> math_: I don't see why it would be, I don't use synaptic but it is probably just telling you there are updates available for some packages
[10:44] <raikoug> ikonia, i search more
[10:44] <jerp_> raikoug, get 'easyubuntu'
[10:44] <ikonia> gh0st just show consideration
[10:44] <Spaghetti_Knife> Jordan_U, can you help me, or are you waiting to finish with logivision first?
[10:44] <math_> mnoir, Jordan_U, LjL, I ment upgrade
[10:44] <ZeckOwner> Okies, me need help again.
[10:44] <gh0st> ikonia: were the fonts displayed or where they replaced by %*" or what ever?
[10:45] <ZeckOwner> I tried to follow these: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows
[10:45] <mnoir> math_: i take back what i said.  what does it want to upgrade?
[10:45] <ikonia> gh0st about 100 lines of random chars
[10:45] <Jordan_U> Spaghetti_Knife: Do CD's mount fine?
[10:45] <LjL> math_: well, still "no". unless you touched /etc/apt/sources.list yourself, the auto-updater will only propose you Edgy upgrades (security and bugfixes)
[10:45] <gh0st> 100 lines!?
[10:45] <neghsmoke> CheshireViknig: ran winecfg  it's got the c drive mapped to /c_drive    but this folder doesn't exist, either that or "show hidden files" doesn't show hidden folders too
[10:45] <jerp_> raikoug, or go here and use your 'find'  ...  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[10:45] <ZeckOwner> Until I realized it was for Ubuntu 6.06 but I am download 6.10
[10:45] <ikonia> gh0st roughly
[10:45] <ikonia> I didn't count
[10:45] <math_> hmm ok
[10:45] <bumbi> what graphic drivers is best to use for ubuntu i have a ATI 9200
[10:45] <math_> mnoir, its in dutch language
[10:45] <ZeckOwner> I saw there was something called intulux or something
[10:46] <jerp_> raikoug, if that is what you're using, of course
[10:46] <neghsmoke> wow this is frustrating
[10:46] <LjL> gh0st, ikonia: ok, so now it's clear to all of us that this channel should be used for support and not for testing character sets or other things that may be seen as spamming. we can move on
[10:46] <gh0st> seriously oculd you make a screenshot? because that would interest me, what other irc clients can display (especially for different fonts)
[10:46] <raikoug> jerp_, I used it but finding that I want... I cant do it... I'm new to linux.. sry
[10:46] <ikonia> LjL certainly
[10:46] <ZeckOwner> I tried to use this, anyways, when it go to the grub thing, I didn't understand.
[10:46] <gh0st> ikonia: seriously could you make a screenshot? because that would interest me, what other irc clients can display (especially for different fonts)
[10:46] <CheshireViking> neghsmoke: i can't offer any more suggestions, i've only tried wine once for 5 minitues, i've just got a /home/user/.wine/drive_c which has got Windows & program files within it
[10:46] <jerp_> rai, that start guide is pretty self explanatory
[10:46] <gh0st> LjL: yeah because you're above us
[10:46] <ikonia> gh0st sorry no, it flooded my screen so has long moved on
[10:47] <neghsmoke> okay
[10:47] <jerp_> neghsmoke, what's your trouble?
[10:47] <cafuego> ikonia: page-up will scroll back text clients.
[10:47] <MuffY> i speak dutch, i can translate some things if you'd like =)
[10:47] <ZeckOwner> I don't know how to open menu.lst
[10:47] <gh0st> control+scroll up
[10:47] <ikonia> cafuego I only buffer about 50 lines
[10:47] <mikelo> how can i play .act sound files?
[10:47] <cafuego> ikonia: So it's your own fault then, not anyone else's. :-P
[10:47] <LjL> exactly
[10:47] <mnoir> MuffY, math_ : the appropriate channel for that is not here
[10:47] <ikonia> cafuego I wasn't complaining,
[10:47] <scifi> what version is the flash plugin that comes bundled with ubuntu ?
[10:47] <ZeckOwner> It does not say how to open it.  Plus, I'm not sure if these directions will work for Ubuntu 6.10
[10:47] <math_> mnoir, it has something to do with linux ristricted modules
[10:47] <ZeckOwner> Can someone help me?
[10:47] <MuffY> k
[10:47] <ikonia> I only buffer 50 lines on purpose
[10:48] <mikelo> can i play flv files with flashplayer? if so how?
[10:48] <ZeckOwner> wait
[10:48] <Mikey> !wep
[10:48] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:48] <ZeckOwner> i found menu.lst
[10:48] <Mikey> !wep encryption
[10:48] <jerp_> scifi, hint: open your synaptic manager and enter plugin and find the one you're talking about a it should be labled there
[10:48] <pike_> mikelo: off top of my head i believe you can play with mplayer or most any other
[10:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wep encryption - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <mnoir> math_: this is not a case for 'something about' - you should use precision.  it might be bad
[10:48] <ikonia> Mikey ubot only knows one word queries from what I've seen
[10:49] <math_> mnoir, Im at ubuntu-nl, thnx for the help, maybe they can help me there :)
[10:49] <bumbi> what drivers do i have to use for a ATI video card
[10:49] <mikelo> !act
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about act - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <LjL> ikonia: not necessarly, but most existing factoids are one word indeed
[10:49] <n2diy> ! ati | bumbi
[10:49] <ubotu> bumbi: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:49] <ikonia> LjL really, I've never seen it respond to a two worder
[10:49] <mikelo> pike_: tried but no success
[10:49] <Spaghetti_Knife> Jordan_U, nothing pops up when I put in a cd, and the pastebin output when I type "mount" is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/990/
[10:49] <SoulChild> hi, i don't get a ip adress at start, any ideas?
[10:50] <mango> hi, can any one please help me install my sound card. I am running debian etch on a ibm x31. I think that all software related to sound was removed previousely. The pasbin link is http://pastebin.ca/311400. Thanks
[10:50] <metres> bumbi : http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/radeon or http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/fglrx
[10:50] <ikonia> SoulChild dhcp not broadcasting or client not listening
[10:50] <scifi> anyone know when a flash player 8 or above will be available for ubuntu ?
[10:50] <ikonia> mango /join #debian
[10:50] <LjL> ikonia: it works, you can toy with it in #ubuntu-bots if you like
[10:50] <mikelo> SoulChild: no dhcp server?
[10:50] <SoulChild> ikonia: how can i check?
[10:50] <logivision> it says to "auto-apt search [headerfile.h] "
[10:50] <ikonia> SoulChild look at syslog
[10:50] <Spaghetti_Knife> Jordan_U?
[10:50] <SoulChild> how to add dhpc
[10:50] <logivision> what happens if there is multiple header s?
[10:50] <ikonia> LjL thats still one word (no space)
[10:50] <bimberi> scifi: flash9 is available in edgy-backports
[10:50] <pike_> mikelo: try http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=299502  maybe
[10:50] <Mikey> ok i have a quick question, WEP and WPA keys are in HEX? then how do i convert my key (a string of chars) into HEX?
[10:51] <logivision> I have 8 files with a .h extension
[10:51] <ikonia> logivision headers
[10:51] <lupine_85> Mikey: what you have there is a passphrase, not a key
[10:51] <luis_> #
[10:51] <blekos> hi, just installed ubuntu, how can i have automount for the win drivers? i think there is a scrip or smg
[10:51] <LjL> ikonia: err, what i meant is that you can check that it works in the #ubuntu-bots channel =) try "!msg the bot" for instance
[10:51] <ikonia> LjL ooooh sorry
[10:51] <Jordan_U> logivision: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutoDeb Is what I was actually thinking of but it says it's beta so you can decide if you want to try it
[10:51] <ikonia> LjL though you where saying thats a key word
[10:52] <pietro> someone can help me to mount my hd in auto, editing fstab
[10:52] <ikonia> thought
[10:52] <Marty_Linux> hi
[10:52] <ikonia> Pierre either put it in fstab or use automounter
[10:52] <bimberi> !mountwindows | blekos
[10:52] <Spaghetti_Knife> Jordan_U, did you get my second pastebin?
[10:52] <ubotu> blekos: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[10:52] <logivision> Jordan_U: Well, if there's a "proper" way to do it, I would rather learn that way. It only makes me more capable in the future
[10:52] <Marty_Linux> is anyone knows dsa key ?
[10:52] <jerp_> scifi, flashplayer 9  ...  http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/
[10:52] <ZeckOwner> exit
[10:52] <mango> ikonia: no one responded. that is why I am here
[10:52] <Mikey> lupine_85: ok we are getting someware, which one do i need to specify in the iwconfig? the pass phrase ("myweppass") or this wep key??
[10:52] <ikonia> Marty_Linux I use them in ssh
[10:52] <Spoile> hi
[10:52] <ikonia> mango you need to go back and wait for a response, this is for #ubuntu support
[10:52] <lupine_85> Mikey: the key
[10:53] <dromer> !opengl
[10:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:53] <lupine_85> which should consist of 0-9 and a-f only
[10:53] <Spoile> i live in barbados
[10:53] <Marty_Linux> ikonia: how to remove teh restriction of ssh_keygen ?
[10:53] <pietro> someone can help me to mount my hd in auto, editing fsta
[10:53] <mango> ikonia: ok , thanks
[10:53] <ikonia> Marty_Linux what do you mean ?
[10:53] <Mikey> lupine_85: ok, how do i make this key???? at least point me to a website
[10:53] <ikonia> what restriction
[10:53] <lupine_85> now here's a question... can I use UTF-8 in my passwords? I'm assuming yes... but how?
[10:53] <mikelo> what about those .act files... does anyone know how to play them?
[10:54] <Marty_Linux> ikonia: we only can crypt 1024 bits not more
[10:54] <lupine_85> Mikey: I'm not really sure, sorry. My router displays the ey just below the passphrase
[10:54] <ikonia> lupine_85 you need pam to do that - its a strange config. I have a russian college who is the utf kernel maintainer and some of the tricks he has to do to work with none utf apps are messy
[10:54] <lupine_85> aww, that's a shame
[10:54] <Marty_Linux> ikonia: >ssh-keygen -t dsa -b 4096
[10:54] <Marty_Linux> DSA keys must be 1024 bits
[10:54] <scifi> jerp_: for windows yeh. i think the linux version is still pre-release
[10:54] <Sa`-> lads i need some help
[10:54] <ikonia> Marty_Linux is that a dsa limitation rather then ssh
[10:55] <ikonia> I don't know myself, mine are 1024
[10:55] <Marty_Linux> ikonia: nop
[10:55] <ikonia> try rsa
[10:55] <Marty_Linux> ikonia:  restriction is from ubuntu
[10:55] <ikonia> Marty_Linux really, I'm not aware of that
[10:55] <ikonia> I wouldn't know how to remove it
[10:55] <jerp_> Anyone with fading fonts???   I found this online; open a terminal and try:   sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config
[10:55] <ikonia> nothing in the ssh_config is there ?
[10:56] <cableroy> i want to make a launch button and to do this mount //computer/share /storage -o username=user. this will ask for a password, how can i accomplish this?
[10:56] <Mikey> lupine_85: the pass phrase is set in the router, and on any other wireless computer, are you sure i cant just put it in there?
[10:56] <Marty_Linux> with suse, gentoo and others it works and you can crypt with more than 1024 level
[10:56] <icheyne> hi people - my pc keeps freezing for no apparent reason. It won't restart until I power down completely and it only restarts after a break of a few minutes. Does anyone have a clue as to what this might be? Any troubleshooting guides about?
[10:56] <ikonia> Marty_Linux you may have to log a bug report to the devs on that to get an answer
[10:56] <lupine_85> Mikey: if you can, I don't know where
[10:56] <Spaghetti_Knife> Jordan_U, you still there? Did you figure out a solution yet?
[10:56] <erisco> are there any other music players other than rythmnbox? I hate it to be blunt.
[10:56] <Jordan_U> !build | logivision This is the manual way, be sure to use checkinstall still instead of make install as it will make removing or upgrading it later on much easier
[10:56] <ubotu> logivision This is the manual way, be sure to use checkinstall still instead of make install as it will make removing or upgrading it later on much easier: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:57] <icheyne> hi people - my pc keeps freezing for no apparent reason. It won't restart until I power down completely and it only restarts after a break of a few minutes. Does anyone have a clue as to what this might be? Any troubleshooting guides about?
[10:57] <ikonia> erisco xmms, totem
[10:57] <Mikey> lupine_85: ok, thx
[10:57] <Marty_Linux> ikonia: may be because developpers want to make ubuntu easy
[10:57] <erisco> ikonia, I mean one that keeps playlists and everything
[10:57] <ikonia> icheyne run a memtest
[10:57] <ikonia> Marty_Linux perhaps - log a bug
[10:57] <icheyne> ikonia, thanks mate I will
[10:57] <ikonia> erisco xmms does
[10:57] <Marty_Linux> ikonia: how ?
[10:57] <ikonia> !launchpad
[10:57] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[10:57] <bimberi> !players | erisco
[10:57] <ubotu> erisco: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[10:58] <kommado> I need some help on wireless networking
[10:58] <jerp_> this is a Font helper too:   sudo ln -s /etc/fonts/conf.d/autohint.conf /etc/fonts/conf.d/10-autohint.conf
[10:58] <blekos> isnt supposed ubuntu to automatically mount the other partitions?
[10:58] <Jordan_U> Spaghetti_Knife: No, do you know how to use the mount command?
[10:58] <Spaghetti_Knife> Jordan_U, I just typed "mount."
[10:58] <Marty_Linux> ikonia: actulally man ssh-keygen says that we can't
[10:58] <erisco> Looks like I'll have some players to try
[10:58] <Spaghetti_Knife> !mount
[10:58] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[10:58] <Jordan_U> Spaghetti_Knife: No, with arguments you can use it to mount drives
[10:58] <Jordan_U> also
[10:59] <Spaghetti_Knife> Oh...
[10:59] <Spaghetti_Knife> No idea.
[10:59] <dimitrius> did anyone knows an irc server i can innstall? pls help
[10:59] <Marty_Linux> but man ssh-keygen of others distribution says we can do it
[10:59] <Spaghetti_Knife> Jordan_U: How do I mount the dvd drive?
[10:59] <ikonia> Marty_Linux ubuntu may have changed the man pages, they do do that
[11:00] <ikonia> Marty_Linux they changed the dhcp-server package a lot but forgot to change the man page
[11:00] <jerp_> dimitrius, put irc in the finder in synaptic manager ............ I've seen several there
[11:00] <Marty_Linux> ikonia: grrrrrrr so developpers suck
[11:00] <Jordan_U> Spaghetti_Knife: the syntax is: sudo mount -t <filesystem> /dev/<disk to be mounted> /media/<folder to mount it to>
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[11:01] <Jordan_U> Spaghetti_Knife: I don't remember off the top of my head what the device name and filesystems are for DVD's
[11:01] <Spaghetti_Knife> Oh...
[11:01] <Spaghetti_Knife> do you know where to get them?
[11:01] <lupine_85> for IDE drives, they're generally /dev/hdb, c or d
[11:01] <Jordan_U> Spaghetti_Knife: lspci for the device name and google to find the file system :)
[11:01] <Marty_Linux> ikonia: to be restricted like that, i'm not feeling free like on an other distr and like is linux philosophy.I'll go back on gentoo grrrrr
[11:02] <Tox> after i installed firestarter i noticed my internet connection start to lag whats goin on ?
[11:02] <ikonia> Marty_Linux log a bug and explain your issues
[11:02] <ikonia> they may change it
[11:02] <Spaghetti_Knife> Jordan_U, I'm stumped. do you know what I should Google?
[11:02] <icheyne> apparently if you say the word dcc on this channel you get kicked...
[11:02] <ikonia> Marty_Linux it may be because of country restrictions, remember the user arn't allowed 128 bit encyprtion
[11:02] <Marty_Linux> ikonia: please do you know a link or an email ?
[11:03] <icheyne> apparently not...
[11:03] <Jordan_U> lupine_85: Do you know what filesystem DVD's use ( or can you tell Spaghetti_Knife how to mount a DVD with mount )?
[11:03] <lupine_85> ikonia: US Export restrictions are stupid
[11:03] <Marty_Linux> ikonia: i don't think so
[11:03] <lupine_85> and they don't work :)
[11:03] <ikonia> lupine_85 thats not my place to judge
[11:03] <lupine_85> Jordan_U: sudo mount /dev/<devicefile> -t auto /path/to/mountpoint
[11:03] <ikonia> Marty_Linux I'm only offering possible reasons
[11:03] <ttoine> hey men
[11:03] <math_> can someone help me with this???: http://www.placemath.nl/temp/upgrade.png
[11:03] <lupine_85> ikonia: true enough :)
[11:04] <math_> I dont know why to upgrade
[11:04] <Marty_Linux> ikonia: where to contact dev ?
[11:04] <lupine_85> still. If Ubuntu are "complying" with that, they need a kick up the buttocks
[11:04] <Spaghetti_Knife> lupine_85: What should I type in place of <dvicefile> in  sudo mount /dev/<devicefile> -t auto /path/to/mountpoint?
[11:04] <lupine_85> depends on your computer
[11:04] <ttoine> somebody know how i can set system, gnome, etc.. on one cpu and some apps on the second cpu of my pc ????
[11:04] <Spaghetti_Knife> Okay...
[11:04] <Spaghetti_Knife> How do I find out?
[11:04] <ikonia> !launchpad | Marty_Linux
[11:04] <ubotu> Marty_Linux: launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[11:04] <lupine_85> primary master = hda; secondary slave = hdd
[11:04] <Jordan_U> Spaghetti_Knife: Can you mount CD's?
[11:05] <Marty_Linux> ikonia: thanks
[11:05] <Spaghetti_Knife> Nope.
[11:05] <ikonia> Marty_Linux best wishes with it
[11:05] <lupine_85> Spaghetti_Knife: lshw is probably your friend
[11:05] <Spaghetti_Knife> ?
[11:05] <lupine_85> run lshw |grep ide
[11:06] <ikonia> lupine_85 this is like pulling teeth
[11:06] <noobcook> can i get some ubuntu insallation help?
[11:06] <ikonia> noobcook of course
[11:06] <lupine_85> eh, no, drop the |grep ide
[11:06] <Spaghetti_Knife> lupine_85, I typed "sudo lshw," and all it came up with was "IDE."
[11:06] <logivision> what does it mean when they say "./configure"
[11:06] <logivision> how do you do that ?
[11:06] <pike_> noobcook: throw your questions out someone will answer
[11:06] <ikonia> logivision if you don't know - you shouldn't be doing it. VERY dangerous
[11:07] <lupine_85> lol
[11:07] <lupine_85> no it isn't
[11:07] <logivision> ikonia: lol - i need to learn how to install from source sooner or later anyways ...
[11:07] <ikonia> lupine_85 it is if you do make install after it and break the whole box
[11:07] <noobcook> i get problems wen i try to install first it has irq15 problems so i use irqpoll, then it has I\0 read errors so i use acpi_set_timer_override but the furthest ive gone is to the gui desktop install where it hands at irregular intervals, i believe, if im not mistaken, im getting "soft lockup detected on CPU#0"
[11:07] <ikonia> logivision don't run before walking
[11:07] <logivision> ikonia: what if i skip the configure and go straight to making it ?
[11:07] <lupine_85> logivision: it's a command to prepare a build for installation on your box
[11:07] <ikonia> logivision no no no no no
[11:07] <lupine_85> if you don't run it, it almost certainly won't make
[11:07] <ikonia> logivision thats my point you have to be prepared to read up and understand this process
[11:07] <lupine_85> and if it does, it won't install correctly on your box
[11:08] <icheyne> Spaghetti_Knife, lshw -C disk
[11:08] <lupine_85> (often, it generates a config.h source file, for instance)
[11:08] <noobcook> hangs*
[11:08] <Marty_Linux> logivision: this mean it will check if everything is ok on your system to compile and install the programm
[11:08] <logivision> ikona: i've been trying to read on ubuntu guide and a few other sites, but they never go any further tahn "run ./configure and make and then install the deb"
[11:08] <Spaghetti_Knife> icheyne: I'm trying to mount my dvds.
[11:08] <pike_> logivision: i would suggest mkdir ~/local;  then ./configure --prefix=/home/user/local  to install to home directory first. less trouble to get rid of it if you have a problem
[11:08] <math_> can someone help me out with this link?: http://www.placemath.nl/temp/upgrade.png I dont know what upgrade this is...
[11:08] <ikonia> logivision that process won't make a deb
[11:08] <logivision> In the directory where you have extracted the source, after you have run ./configure and make you can create a .deb file and install it with either of the following commands.
[11:08] <cas3> is there a smaller version of the ruby interpreter so that I might be able to put it on my ipaq?
[11:08] <asphault> can someone tell me a good tool for viewing wireless networks in my location in Xubuntu ?
[11:08] <lupine_85> !checkinstall
[11:08] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[11:09] <Jordan_U> ikonia: I told him to use checkinstall
[11:09] <lupine_85> if you want to be "doin it rite"
[11:09] <Gabby_Hayes> Howdy
[11:09] <lupine_85> but yeah, checkinstall sucks
[11:09] <ikonia> I wouldn't advise either - its running before walking
[11:09] <logivision> pike_ marty_linux ikonia: i'm not sure if one of you want to help me do this in a private chat ... ?
[11:09] <ikonia> logivision what are you trying to build
[11:09] <logivision> ikonia: thc-hydra
[11:10] <Marty_Linux> logivision: not me, i'm not registred :)
[11:10] <ikonia> login hacker
[11:10] <ikonia> nah - not helping you with that
[11:10] <logivision> ikonia: i'm trying to run a pen test on my companies website at the request of my boss
[11:10] <logivision> ikonia: what's needed to prove this to you.. ?
[11:10] <ikonia> logivision use namp - that should be enough
[11:10] <cas3> is there a smaller version of the ruby interpreter so that I might be able to put it on my ipaq?
[11:10] <ikonia> nmap
[11:10] <lupine_85> mmh, on a website?
[11:11] <lupine_85> I can't see it checking for vulnerabilities
[11:11] <logivision> ikonia: i've used nmap to get the open ports, now want to use a brute force with a simple dictionary word list to show them how easy it is to crack passwords
[11:11] <ikonia> lupine_85 see what ports are listening on the webserver - but lupine is right, bad example
[11:11] <logivision> ikonia: and how they need to require employee's to use special characters
[11:11] <lupine_85> logivision: john
[11:11] <lupine_85> !info john edgy
[11:11] <ikonia> logivision john the ripper
[11:11] <ubotu> john: active password cracking tool. In component main, is optional. Version 1.6-40ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 548 kB, installed size 1172 kB
[11:11] <lupine_85> john ftw
[11:11] <ikonia> lupine_85 your faster !
[11:12] <lupine_85> I haxxx0r all my pr0nz using john
[11:12] <marcus__> hi all
[11:12] <noobcook> can someone help me with my question?
[11:12] <Music_Shuffle> !someone
[11:12] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:12] <lifepositive> besides Azuerus! what can I use?
[11:12] <logivision> ikonia | lupine_85: John isn't a network cracking tool, don't you hvae to have the file locally to crack using it ?
[11:12] <ikonia> noobcook yours looks like hardware incompatabilities
[11:12] <ikonia> logivision yes, but it will prove the point
[11:12] <logivision> ikonia: but without having the files to crack i can't create a report, i need to show them how somebody from the outside can get in
[11:13] <logivision> ikonia: and even then use john to crack more sensitive and secure passwords
[11:13] <noobcook> ikonia is there anyway i can override that? so far ive been unable to install anything on this laptop
[11:13] <lupine_85> logivision: it does all sorts
[11:13] <grimboy> Can anyone tell me why ~ is an illegal character in scp/sftp? Dammit that took me ages to figure out.
[11:13] <marcus__> why is too busy
[11:13] <ikonia> logivision use john the ripper
[11:14] <pietro> Hi, someone can help me to mount my second hard disk?
[11:14] <Lynoure> grimboy: because it expands into your local, not remote home dir
[11:14] <logivision> ikonia: i know what john the ripper is and i've used it before in the past, and it's not what i want for this situation. i'll just try to tackle this problem my self i guess.
[11:14] <johnny_> how can i start a terminal from tty1 on tty7?
[11:14] <johnny_> or any program
[11:14] <johnny_> doesnt matter
[11:14] <pike_> grimboy: one of the reasons i use sshfs now
[11:14] <lupine_85> logivision: on a more serious note, maths is a much better way to tackle this than haxxx0ring
[11:14] <logivision> lupine_85: maths ?
[11:14] <logivision> !maths
[11:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about maths - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:14] <noobcook> lol
[11:14] <lupine_85> just demonstrate the hugely different sizes in phase space, and you're away
[11:14] <mikelo> grimboy: ~/ stands for /home/username/ so i guess in scp it doesn't make any sense
[11:15] <Desperado88> salve
[11:15] <Gabby_Hayes> me is about to install 6.10 onto an AMD dual core.  Has there been any  'gotchas'  on that?
[11:15] <Music_Shuffle> Flash?
[11:15] <logivision> lupine_85: ... phase space ?
[11:15] <johnny_> is it even possible?
[11:15] <ikonia> logivision no way on this planet should you be hacking a site to prove a point
[11:15] <Music_Shuffle> Is a headache.
[11:15] <Jordan_U> johnny_: I don't know what you are trying to do but using the program screen is probably the way to do it
[11:15] <pietro> please help me me to mount my second hard disk, I've to recover important data
[11:15] <lupine_85> in real life, most services will block your IP after $num failed attempts anyway, so a brute-force attack won't prove what you want it to
[11:15] <lupine_85> yeah, phase space. You know.
[11:15] <johnny_> everything halted Jordan_U
[11:15] <ikonia> lupine_85 excellent point
[11:15] <johnny_> and i dont want to restart
[11:15] <noobcook> ikona can you give me some boot commands to bypass these cpu freezes or is it just unsupported?
[11:15] <paperstreet> hrmm any reason why apt-get has been slow (like 5.2 kb)
[11:15] <Music_Shuffle> lupine_85, like hammer space?
[11:16] <johnny_> i want to start a terminal on tty1 for tty7
[11:16] <logivision> ikonia: i'm not familiar with linux, and if your going to be rude i rather not have a reply, sorry and thanks
[11:16] <ikonia> noobcook not if its hardware incompatabilities
[11:16] <ikonia> logivision I'm not being rude ???
[11:16] <paperstreet>  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/ seems to take forever
[11:16] <johnny_> does anyone know how?
[11:16] <lupine_85> nah. all possible passwords, given a particular set of conditions
[11:16] <paperstreet> or better yet is there a way to tell apt to update to a faster mirror?
[11:16] <Music_Shuffle> paperstreet, pick a different country code and try?
[11:16] <logivision> ikonia: that's a matter of opinion and from your last comment i don't feel it was necessary.
[11:16] <threethazz> hey, need help on quicktime decoders, like for totem.. anyone ??
[11:16] <johnny_> has anyone installed ubuntu and gentoo?
[11:16] <Akuma_> is there a simple way to get a dir's full size?
[11:17] <noobcook> ive previously been able to install linux distros on this laptop what does ubuntu have thats making it incompatible that mandrake and redhat and debian dont?
[11:17] <ikonia> logivision what that you shouldn't be hacking a company website to prove a point
[11:17] <Jordan_U> johnny_: What will starting it do ( and BTW that is sort of what screen does but more )
[11:17] <khahr> any suggestions to fix this problem "sudo: timestamp too far in the future"? the time was wrong first, i fixed it, and now i get this every time i try to use sudo. since there's no root user in ubuntu, i can't go root, and just waiting is not an option either
[11:17] <mikelo> paperstreet: or just archive.ubuntu.com
[11:17] <n2diy> johnny_: you want to start a terminal while running in X?
[11:17] <lupine_85> you can then look at what proportion of the phase space, given different restrictions, is covered by the dictionary  + easy brute force phase space
[11:17] <logivision> ikonia: i'm sorry, here you go
[11:17] <johnny_> no
[11:17] <johnny_> in tty1 n2diy
[11:17] <ikonia> ????
[11:17] <logivision> !pen test | ikonia
[11:17] <johnny_> for tty7
[11:17] <ubotu> pen: Load balancer for "simple" tcp based protocols. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.15.0-1 (edgy), package size 48 kB, installed size 184 kB
[11:17] <johnny_> X is running on tty7
[11:17] <logivision> hmm
[11:17] <logivision> !penetration | ikonia
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about penetration - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <eshat> should i remove network-manager when i use dhcp?
[11:17] <johnny_> but the panel and everything shut down on me
[11:17] <jerp_> paper, there might be a cuban archival server, give it a try.  God knows no one will be using it
[11:17] <threethazz> !quicktime
[11:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:17] <lupine_85> when you can say "ok, you're x times more likely to be hacked doin' it like this than doin' it like that, /and here are the numbers/", people take notice
[11:17] <johnny_> so i need to start a terminal from tty1 so it opens on tty7
[11:18] <mikelo> u gotta help me out with these .act audio files please
[11:18] <task0> is there spanish support?
[11:18] <cas3> I put linux on my ipaq, and now I'm wanting to use ruby for development on it. Is there an embedded ruby interpreter that I could use for this task or what?
[11:18] <Music_Shuffle> !es | task0
[11:18] <ubotu> task0: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:18] <lupine_85> !es
[11:18] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:18] <lupine_85> bah, snapped
[11:18] <ikonia> lupine_85 doesn't the login attemps get controlled by the web technology - eg: asp may not support it - but say php would
[11:18] <eshat> HEY, should i remove network-manager when i use dhcp?
[11:18] <task0> Music_Shuffle: gracias
[11:18] <lupine_85> when you say "omg i almost haxx0red j00r server", people don't.
[11:18] <n2diy> johnny_: tty7 is reserved for X
[11:18] <Music_Shuffle> De nada.
[11:18] <logivision> ikonia: http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&hs=jzO&q=what+is+a+pen+test&btnG=Search&meta=
[11:18] <ikonia> I supposed that depends on the auth method more than the technology being user
[11:18] <ikonia> used
[11:18] <noobcook> omg so much spam
[11:18] <johnny_> yes n2diy
[11:18] <eshat> hey whats
[11:18] <lupine_85> ikonia: ?
[11:18] <johnny_> i want to start a terminal from tty1 so it opens on tty7
[11:19] <johnny_> i cant do anything on tty7
[11:19] <johnny_> theres no panel and right clicking is dead
[11:19] <ikonia> logivision I'm well aware of a pen test - I've run them for many business thanks
[11:19] <lupine_85> johnny_: DISPLAY=:0 gnome-terminal
[11:19] <ikonia> lupine_85 I was thinking out aloud
[11:19] <paperstreet> mikelo, that did it thanks!
[11:19] <johnny_> i ont need to add anything about tty7 lupine_85 ?
[11:19] <threethazz> hey, need help on totem. it doesnt play quicktime movies :S
[11:19] <lupine_85> :0 == tty7
[11:19] <mikelo> paperstreet: no prob
[11:19] <lupine_85> unless you're running something strange
[11:19] <johnny_> thank you lupine_85
[11:19] <johnny_> perfect
[11:20] <johnny_> huge help
[11:20] <lupine_85> np :)
[11:20] <johnny_> does anyone know how to get invisible borders?
[11:20] <ikonia> lupine_85 you've raised an interesting topic
[11:20] <Thunderguy> Hey I was wondering, is there a way I can build a custom Ubuntu install with apt-get? What I mean is a base-install just to get me to a shell and with networking, that I can work with to apt-get my way to the system I want?
[11:20] <johnny_> i've been looking around the forums with no luck
[11:20] <lupine_85> maths :/
[11:20] <lupine_85> I'm not very good at it
[11:20] <ikonia> Thunderguy not really
[11:20] <logivision> lupine_85: Actually doing it scares people _alot_ more. What would make you feel less comfortable, people explaining "likeli-hoods" to you, or somebody showing you documentation on how they got complete access to your network and all the computers on it in 15 minutes ?
[11:20] <threethazz> hey, need help on totem. it doesnt play quicktime movies, anyone ??!?!?!?
[11:20] <lupine_85> but phase space is huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge
[11:20] <ikonia> lupine_85 no no, good food for thought, some stuff i've not thought about for a while
[11:20] <Thunderguy> ikonia: So I'd basically have to go with a Debian Stable, then modify the sources?
[11:21] <Jordan_U> Thunderguy: Yes, using the alternate / server install CD
[11:21] <pietro> someone can help me to mount my second hard disk or say me how I can find documentation?
[11:21] <ikonia> Thunderguy no that wouldn't work
[11:21] <Gabby_Hayes> johnny_  .. isn't there some F-key combos that swap terminals?  (am learning myself..)
[11:21] <johnny_> swap?
[11:21] <johnny_> how do you mean
[11:21] <cas3> download the gstreamer plugins threethazz
[11:21] <lupine_85> logivision: /nobody/ uses brute force any more, so your test is invalid anyway
[11:21] <noobcook> ikonia, i can access a terminal on my laptop and it has full linux support is there anyway i can install a gui like kde on it? or perhaps use the terminal to download & install a distro?
[11:21] <johnny_> like alt-tab?
[11:21] <Blutack> pietro, hit F1 at the desktop for help
[11:21] <johnny_> or do you mean between gnome-terminal and xterm?
[11:21] <Thunderguy> Jordan_U: Hey do you know if Ubuntu includes build-essentials for most things in the repository?
[11:21] <ikonia> noobcook no
[11:21] <lupine_85> the money is in rootkits and exploits these days
[11:21] <noobcook> what are my options ikonia
[11:21] <logivision> lupine_85: the idea that somebody got complete access to your companies most sensitive files so easily is enough to make any company change their policies
[11:21] <ikonia> lupine_85 a fair point
[11:21] <johnny_> im trying to set up a dual boot for gentoo and ubuntu on my desktop
[11:22] <ikonia> noobcook I don't know, I've not been thinking about it
[11:22] <johnny_> its proving difficult
[11:22] <Jordan_U> Thunderguy: You mean -dev packages?
[11:22] <noobcook> ok
[11:22] <lupine_85> regardless, p(hax00r) is scarier than "omg I almost haxx0red you"
[11:22] <logivision> lupine_85: that depends on what you find with a port scan . . . .
[11:22] <jerp_> pietro, go here and use 'mount' in your browser 'find'  ...  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[11:22] <ikonia> logivision explain that to them though, show them statistics rather than try to break their site
[11:22] <Thunderguy> Jordan_U: Yeah, I like building most of my own things, but I'm not a gentoo'er just like a few things, like Wine and such
[11:22] <johnny_> im running xfce and i want to get invisible borders and title bars
[11:22] <logivision> ikonia: the point is that I have been asked to _try_ to break  their site
[11:22] <lupine_85> logivision: so does brute-force...
[11:22] <logivision> ikonia: not that i'm trying to "haxor" them.
[11:22] <Thunderguy> Jordan_U: Seems to work better sometimes when compiled
[11:22] <johnny_> i saw a screenshot of it and it looked bad ass
[11:23] <ikonia> logivision then why are you mucking around with tools you don't know  ?
[11:23] <lupine_85> ...then try to break it..
[11:23] <Music_Shuffle> logivision, you're being...paid for this?
[11:23] <Jordan_U> Thunderguy: If so then yes, all of them in fact, run: sudo apt-get build-dep <package> to install all it's build dependencies
[11:23] <noobcook> try this http://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/p0f.shtml
[11:23] <noobcook> logivision ^
[11:23] <logivision> Music_Shuffle: I work for the company, I already have complete access to everything. The point is to get it _without_ using all my passwords. And I'm doing it during _work hours_ so yes. I am getting paid.
[11:23] <johnny_> does anyone know how?
[11:23] <Thunderguy> Jordan_U: Do you know of a way I could get build-deps' for the packages Ubuntu comes with? ( an easy way I mean )
[11:23] <juano> ikonia: wine not by default on edgy right?
[11:23] <Music_Shuffle> I find it very very amusing that you're asking us, how to teach you to use a tool, to h4x a site, to get paid.
[11:23] <johnny_> or have a link to a how to
[11:24] <ikonia> juano no
[11:24] <Gabby_Hayes> is this idea possible:  as there isn't going to be any anti-virus for WIN98SE, could one use linux as the VM, and run 98SE under linux & Wine?
[11:24] <logivision> Music_Shuffel: It's not like i'm sitting here for days and days, just on my spare time
[11:24] <threethazz> cas3 thank you :) I've got tons of that installed... wich one should I install ? (version??, name?)
[11:24] <Music_Shuffle> This makes it no less amusing.
[11:24] <logivision> I'm not asking how to use a tool, i'm asking how to install from source. Ikonia made this get way out of hand.
[11:24] <johnny_> whats the room for non ubuntu related stuff?
[11:24] <lupine_85> logivision: so what service are you trying to haxx0r?
[11:24] <Thunderguy> Jordan_U: Hey is there a variable in Apt-get to specify packages already installed? that way I can apt-get build-essentials (variable) Then it will fetch build essentials for all the packages I have installed?
[11:25] <ikonia> logivision not at all, I was stating that you shouldn't be building software unless you know what you are doing as it can break your system and have bad effects
[11:25] <Music_Shuffle> !offtopic | johnny_
[11:25] <cas3> threethazz: uh...dunno off hand my guess would be gstreamer-quicktime
[11:25] <ubotu> johnny_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:25] <eshat> Hey my network works fine now  THANKS to all who helped especially ikonia
[11:25] <ikonia> feel free to carry on
[11:25] <n2diy> johnny_: ubuntu-offtopic
[11:25] <logivision> lupine_85: PC Anywhere, people are knowen to use weak passwords on it.
[11:25] <johnny_> thanks MuffY
[11:25] <ikonia> I didn't mean to stop you
[11:25] <johnny_> and n2diy
[11:25] <eshat> ikonia: it was network-manager.... it deactivated the interfaces at boot
[11:25] <ikonia> people are known to use weak password on any app
[11:25] <logivision> ikonia: no, you stated that "i'm not going to help you install a program to hack with" or somethin gof the sort
[11:25] <Jordan_U> Thunderguy: Can you rephrase that , I am not sure I understand.
[11:25] <ikonia> logivision no - I wouldn't help you install an app you had no idea what was going to do to your system
[11:26] <ikonia> eshat sorry, I can't remeber the origional problem. Sorry
[11:26] <threethazz> case ok... thanks :)
[11:26] <lupine_85> hardly a website; what authentication protocol does it use?
[11:26] <lupine_85> e.g. can you telnet to it?
[11:26] <Thunderguy> Jordan_U: Like when Ubuntu installs, it installs a lot of stuff without build-essentials ( since they are not included with the base install ) is there an easy way to go back and gather all those build-essentials without having to lookup each package installed and address them individually
[11:26] <logivision> ikonia: no, here
 login hacker
[11:26] <logivision> * Saphirus has quit (Client Quit)
 nah - not helping you with that
[11:26] <Jordan_U> Thunderguy: Oh, I get it now, you want ALL the -dev packages, you can do that by piping a few commands together
[11:26] <eshat> ikonia: anyway i see u r helping a lot here. thank you much for careing for others, that s great...
[11:26] <ikonia> logivision yes
[11:26] <ikonia> thats right
[11:26] <n2diy> logivision: why don't you go to their home page, and follow the directions there?
[11:27] <ikonia> eshat ahh not at all, glad you found a solution
[11:27] <eshat> ikonia ;)
[11:27] <lifepositive> does anyone here use a USB adsl modem that works with Ubuntu?
[11:27] <lupine_85> but yeah. there isn't much to do EXCEPT ./configure && make && make install in most cases
[11:27] <cas3> doesnt work for me lifepositive
[11:27] <Thunderguy> Jordan_U: Yeah basically I'm on Debian Testing, I have it setup so I have the build-essentials to everything... but my last update crashed the system, so I'm considering Ubuntu, but I just wanna have it the same way, heh
[11:27] <johnny_> what is the best book for someone who wants to become an expert sysadmin and on editing and tweeking config files?
[11:27] <ikonia> lupine_85 looking at the app its going to want some pretty non-standard deps
[11:27] <ikonia> pcap etc
[11:27] <lifepositive> cas3: you tried the USB ADSL modem on Ubuntu?
[11:27] <ikonia> johnny_ experience
[11:28] <johnny_> lol
[11:28] <johnny_> i need books as well
[11:28] <johnny_> problem is knowing which ones to buy
[11:28] <ikonia> experience is the best tool
[11:28] <cas3> lifepositive: yeah but it doesn't have much support
[11:28] <ikonia> no book can teach that
[11:28] <n2diy> johnny_: http://rute.2038bug.com/rute.html.gz
[11:28] <lifepositive> cas3: so safest thing is to get the ethernet adsl modem?
[11:28] <lupine_85> ...loads of things use pcap....
[11:29] <cas3> lifepositive: yeah cat5 all the way
[11:29] <johnny_> well i need something on what files do what , shell progamming, editing config files , good obscure tools and how to use them
[11:29] <lifepositive> cas3: whats cat5?
[11:29] <n2diy> johnny_: http://rute.2038bug.com/rute.html.gz
[11:29] <cas3> lifepositive: uh, ethernet.
[11:29] <ikonia> lupine_85 just an example
[11:29] <ikonia> not a standard lib
[11:29] <lupine_85> :)
[11:29] <lifepositive> cas3: cat5 means ethernet?
[11:29] <cas3> yeah it's the cable
[11:30] <Gabby_Hayes> cat5  is a cable ethernet protocol
[11:30] <johnny_> thank you so much n2diy
[11:30] <Jordan_U> Thunderguy: you can use dpkg --getselections and reformat it some and pass it to apt-get build-dep
[11:30] <johnny_> you've been a big help
[11:30] <johnny_> thanks guys
[11:30] <lupine_85> Gabby_Hayes: no, it's a cabling standard :p
[11:30] <foomanchew> anyone able to use Rythmbox (using avahi) to listen to an iTune 7.0 share ?
[11:30] <n2diy> johnny_: nada
[11:30] <threethazz> cas3:  still doesnt work :\  .... it says no decoder for quicktime.
[11:30] <Thunderguy> alright, thanks for the info Jordan_U
[11:30] <foomanchew> used to work
[11:30] <For> |22:30:48| <Sms> [07:42]  #For# uptime
[11:30] <For> |22:30:48| <Sms> Online for 17 days, 08:23  (background)
[11:30] <For> ops sry
[11:31] <Gabby_Hayes> ok,  my mistake .. confusing hardware & software  :-(
[11:31] <Jordan_U> Thunderguy: I assume you know enough about bash to figure out the rest
[11:31] <scorp2025> Hi! Has anyone a good link to a tutorial which deals with backports?
[11:31] <Thunderguy> yeah
[11:31] <foomanchew> rythmbox / itunes anyone ?
[11:31] <mnoir> !backports
[11:31] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[11:32] <thecat> !xfce
[11:32] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[11:33] <scorp2025> ubotu: Thx. I may reformulate my question: Do you know of a good tutorial which deals with creating backports by oneself?
[11:33] <lifepositive> whats a good app better than Azuerus?
[11:33] <funkyHat> lifepositive, bittorrent
[11:33] <lupine_85> ktorrent
[11:33] <lifepositive> funkyHat: why does bittorrent not download files for me?
[11:33] <lupine_85> rtorrent
[11:33] <lupine_85> telnet
[11:34] <lifepositive> lupine_85: im using Gnome
[11:34] <scorp2025> mnoir: Thx. I may reformulate my question: Do you know of a good tutorial which deals with creating backports by oneself?
[11:34] <cas3> lifepositive: I dunno for your quicktime, I would use mplayer instead of totem. I've had better results.
[11:34] <Jordan_U> scorp2025: for your own repository?
[11:34] <lupine_85> scorp2025: generally, just download the source, build it, and hope for the best
[11:34] <funkyHat> lifepositive, I don't know... I've never had a problem with it
[11:34] <scorp2025> Jordan_U: I want to use a package from edgy within a dapper system.
[11:34] <lifepositive> funkyHat: when using bittorrent i right click on the torrent file, but nothing ever downloads!  any ides?
[11:34] <lupine_85> e.g. add the deb-src repo, apt-get -b source <package name>
[11:35] <mnoir> scorp2025: you just compile what you want and use the standard packaging tools to make a deb pkg.  Voila
[11:35] <cas3> dont right click
[11:35] <lifepositive> cas3: what then?
[11:35] <scorp2025> mnoir: But what's with the dependencies?
[11:35] <cas3> left click it ;)
[11:35] <Jordan_U> scorp2025: Then do what lupine_85 suggested, I can help you with that more if you want PM me ( this channel is too much right now :)
[11:35] <mnoir> scorp2025: you might look at checkinstall - it will do almost everything for you
[11:36] <lifepositive> cas3: I cant! that loads Azerus :(
[11:36] <jerp_> alrighty then, I guess XStarfish is a no go :\
[11:36] <cas3> is azerus a torrent client?
[11:36] <black_abaddon> mnoir: i am eating my diner
[11:36] <funkyHat> lifepositive, right click then go to properties, then click the 'open with' tab and change the default
[11:36] <lupine_85> mnoir: that's a lot harder than a backport ;)
[11:36] <Tenric> Hey, guys.
[11:36] <mnoir> lup
[11:36] <mnoir> scorp2025: huh?
[11:36] <mnoir> lupine_85: huh?
[11:36] <funkyHat> cas3, yeah, it's Java though, and can be pretty heavy on memory
[11:37] <Akuma_> is there a simple way to get a dir's full size?
[11:37] <black_abaddon> no
[11:37] <mnoir> black_abaddon: me too :)
[11:37] <Akuma_> hmm
[11:37] <cas3> if you use firefox you can switch your preferred programs in the preferences, I would use bittornado or ktorrent, or something else that isn't java based
[11:37] <black_abaddon> cool
[11:37] <lifepositive> funkyHat: I did that!  but it loads and downloads nothing!
[11:37] <lupine_85> mnoir: "you just compile what you want and use the standard packaging tools to make a deb pkg.  Voila"
[11:37] <lupine_85> ==Hard
[11:38] <funkyHat> Akuma_, yes, if you're using Edgy, Applications > Accessories > Disk Usage Analyser
[11:38] <lupine_85> whereas apt-get -b source <package name> == Easy
[11:38] <lifepositive> funkyHat: maybe its a faulty file?
[11:38] <lifepositive> funkyHat: where can I get another file?
[11:38] <Pelo> evening folks
[11:38] <n2diy> Akuma_: the du command.
[11:38] <mnoir> lupine_85: well a backport is merely a package placed in the repository for a release released prior to the current.  what is the big deal?
[11:38] <Tenric> Hey, IntuitiveNipple.
[11:38] <funkyHat> lifepositive, possibly... does a bittorrent window appear with the info for the torrent in the main part of it?
[11:39] <lupine_85> no big deal
[11:39] <mnoir> :)
[11:39] <lifepositive> funkyHat: no
[11:39] <Aerotwelve> Can anyone help me with dualbooting Windows and Ubuntu? I just have a few questions about the specific options
[11:39] <Pelo> my brother just gave me a cheapass  digital camera (a batman one if you can beleive).  It should function as a webcam ,  any suggestion how I should go about it ?
[11:39] <lupine_85> I was just letting you kknow there's an easier way than writing your own debian/
[11:39] <funkyHat> Akuma_, if you're on Dapper you might be able to install it
[11:39] <funkyHat> lifepositive, does a window open at all?
[11:39] <BULLE> Pelo: start to check if there is linux support for it at all
[11:39] <mnoir> thue=thus
[11:39] <lupine_85> checkinstall-- :p
[11:39] <Pelo> BULLE,  there isn'T even windows support
[11:39] <BULLE> hehe
[11:40] <Pelo> BULLE,  this should just be a matter of using an appropriate viewer that can pick up a usb cam and view with that,  is there one in the packages ?
[11:40] <Przemcio78> help, i've got a virus!!!!
[11:40] <Mikey> cant connect to open network, cant assign static IP, help
[11:40] <riotkittie> a virus?
[11:40] <lupine_85> oh noes!!!
[11:40] <Pelo> Przemcio78,  no you don'T
[11:41] <lupine_85> W32/Sasser?
[11:41] <Aerotwelve> A virus on Linux? Impossible!
[11:41] <Przemcio78> just kidding :P
[11:41] <noobcook> hey lupine_85 is Linux Live an alternative to building ur own distro?
[11:41] <mwe> Aerotwelve: it's not impossible. unlikely though
[11:41] <ikonia> noobcook lfs
[11:41] <cas3> Aerotwelve: not really, there's been 2 that I know of, but they were more lab tests
[11:41] <riotkittie> viruses on linux arent impossible.
[11:41] <Pelo> Przemcio78,  no matter what you may hear,  windows xp isn't actualy a virus
[11:41] <lupine_85> I don't know what linux live is :)
[11:41] <Przemcio78> Pelo: lol
[11:41] <lupine_85> Pelo: vista is, though
[11:41] <noobcook> sorry ikonia i dont get =p
[11:41] <mwe> riotkittie: they are
[11:41] <Aerotwelve> Windows XP is the mother of all viruses
[11:42] <lupine_85> nah, XP is just buggy
[11:42] <HS^> can someone show a screenshot of linux-fonts that are on equal- or better quality then windows?
[11:42] <ikonia> Aerotwelve rubbish
[11:42] <cas3> DRM is
[11:42] <lupine_85> vista is broken by design
[11:42] <noobcook> "Linux Live is a set of shell scripts which allows you to create own LiveCD from every Linux distribution."
[11:42] <HS^> XP is not buggy
[11:42] <mwe> riotkittie: what makes you think it's not possible to write a virus for linux?
[11:42] <lupine_85> lol
[11:42] <Aerotwelve> heh, guys, I'm just kidding :p
[11:42] <HS^> it NEVER crashed here.
[11:42] <Capnbeefy> i have a big problem
[11:42] <Mikey> argh stop talking about windows, it makes me sick !!
[11:42] <Akuma_> n2diy: funkyHat: thanks
[11:42] <HS^> (unlike linux)
[11:42] <HS^> can someone show a screenshot of linux-fonts that are on equal- or better quality then windows?
[11:42] <ikonia> Mikey why
[11:42] <riotkittie> mwe:  i didnt say it was unpossible.
[11:42] <HS^> can someone show a screenshot of linux-fonts that are on equal- or better quality then windows?
[11:42] <cas3> I put linux on my ipaq, and now I'm wanting to use ruby for development on it. Is there an embedded ruby interpreter that I could use for this task or what?
[11:42] <Tenric> lupine_85: hear, hear!
[11:42] <mwe> HS^: it never crashed for you so it's not buggy. um
[11:42] <riotkittie> i said arent IMpossible
[11:42] <Mikey> hello? ubuntu help?
[11:42] <Aerotwelve> Only reason I say that is because I've heard of, maybe, three viruses for Linux
[11:43] <mwe> riotkittie: oh. sorry ;)
[11:43] <HS^> mwe linux gives more problems as win XP. FACT.
[11:43] <lupine_85> none of them are in the wild, so in practice there aren't any
[11:43] <HS^> but i dont have time for flaming wars
[11:43] <lupine_85> exploits are more fun
[11:43] <Przemcio78> never in almost 3-year-time on Linux i had a virus, isn't it great?
[11:43] <Capnbeefy> i was following the ubuntuguide wiki...attempting to disable interactive editing control for grub....now grub wont boot...i cant get in...prompted for a password and the password i put it doesnt work
[11:43] <HS^> i wanne see screenshots of fonts
[11:43] <mwe> HS^: so that's a general pattern. come on
[11:43] <HS^> i use windows and i never had a virus
[11:43] <HS^> big deal
[11:43] <logivision> I've never had a virus on window's, nor have I had XP crash on me. It's all dependant on the user.
[11:43] <HS^> i want to see screenshot of linux ubuntu and fonts
[11:43] <Aerotwelve> But anyway, is there someone here that can help me with dual booting?
[11:43] <noobcook> winblows
[11:43] <lupine_85> not quite all
[11:43] <ikonia> logivision exactly
[11:43] <logivision> Just like with linux, if you know what your doing you'll have no problems
[11:43] <||arifaX> Przemcio78: I  use sophos av even on linux, just to be sure to much stuff in weird repositories
[11:43] <riotkittie> HS^: your fact !=fact, its your opinion based on your experiences
[11:43] <HS^> FONTS on linux always looks SHIT
[11:43] <noobcook> not windows, winblows
[11:44] <HS^> riotkittie no its a public opinion
[11:44] <noobcook> HS^ lol no it is way better
[11:44] <Capnbeefy> can anyone help me please?
[11:44] <ikonia> noobcook why ?
[11:44] <logivision> It's the everyday situation, people that don't know what they are doing, break their computers, and complain that it's window's
[11:44] <HS^> Capnbeefy so make screenshot
[11:44] <mwe> riotkittie: he's taling crap based on personal experience
[11:44] <HS^> and show it to Me
[11:44] <Mikey> HS^: linux may not be for you then
[11:44] <logivision> Really, it's not window's, it's the user.
[11:44] <cas3> you can use windows fonts on linux
[11:44] <mnoir> HS^: 1.  clean up your mouth.  2. boot the cd and look for yourself
[11:44] <Capnbeefy> a screenshot of what?
[11:44] <HS^> mike__ show screenshot!
[11:44] <Tenric> windoze
[11:44] <hou5ton> can't find the location of the Open Office /usr/template dir ... I'm trying to add some templates
[11:44] <lupine_85> numerous windows "features" make it more likely you'd get a virus running in windows, irrespective of the user's experience level
[11:44] <HS^> mnoir i did Intsall ubuntu, and default fonts look SHIT
[11:44] <ikonia> mcphail/ good call
[11:44] <HS^> it looks  TERRIBLE
[11:44] <mike__> screenshot of what
[11:44] <mike__> ?
[11:45] <HS^> fonts are a tragedy to linux
[11:45] <HS^> of desktop
[11:45] <riotkittie> HS^: uh. public opinion bears no weight as most people are, in fact, morons.:P
[11:45] <mike__> Why?
[11:45] <HS^> i am interested in fonts
[11:45] <funkyHat> HS^, watch your language please
[11:45] <mwe> HS^: continue like that and you'll get kicked real soon
[11:45] <Capnbeefy> i need to edit my grub menu.lst but i cant boot ubuntu
[11:45] <funkyHat> HS^, perhaps you need to set your anti-aliasing settings correctly
[11:45] <lupine_85> Capnbeefy: boot into a live CD
[11:45] <riotkittie> my fonts look grrreat.
[11:45] <noobcook> the way i see it, operating systems are like a board of infomation, windows is the idiot who used a perminant marker on a whiteboard, while linux is a chalkboard and you can change the mistakes
[11:45] <noobcook> aparently anyway
[11:45] <Capnbeefy> i did im on it right now lupine
[11:45] <hou5ton> Where is the Open Office /usr/template directory ... or how can I find it?
[11:45] <HS^> riotkittie yes but the majority of the morons rule ,  you cant defeat a army of morons, so they are better as you.  you are weaker.
[11:45] <thecat> microsoft sepends millions just on font developement per OS release
[11:45] <mwe> !ops
[11:45] <logivision> lupine_85: if you have a decent anti-virus running, keep it up to date, as well as run some anti-spyware utilities every now and then, and if you don't download everything from anywhere and run it without scanning,  you'll be fine
[11:45] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[11:45] <||arifaX> HS^: maybe not the fonts are sh*it maybe you did not set graphics monitor and rgb settings?
[11:45] <HS^> riotkittie show fonts. NOW!
[11:45] <lupine_85> Capnbeefy: ok, so mount your / (or /boot) and change it
[11:46] <BlueLaguna> What's the best way to figure out what's using the CPU power?  My CPU usage is high, and there's nothing obvious in top
[11:46] <apokryphos> mwe: hi
[11:46] <gnomefreak> mwe: ?
[11:46] <tonyyarusso> mwe: ?
[11:46] <Capnbeefy> i dont know how lupine = \
[11:46] <ikonia> mcphail is right - this should be in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:46] <logivision> All you have to do is take, what i consider, very basic percautions
[11:46] <BlueLaguna> http://bluelaguna.net/tmp/top.png
[11:46] <mwe> apokryphos: please HS^ is being really annoying
[11:46] <Capnbeefy> thats why im here
[11:46] <lupine_85> lol, no
[11:46] <HS^> ||arifaX i sense here a denial of truth
[11:46] <mwe> apokryphos: swearing and what not
[11:46] <riotkittie> HS^: i'm not showing you anything, dude.
[11:46] <lupine_85> ok. what partition is your / on?
[11:46] <gnomefreak> HS^: join #ubuntu-offtopic to continue
[11:46] <cas3> when is edgy going to be a stable release? or is it already?
[11:46] <Seveas> oooh
[11:46] <Seveas> familiar hostname
[11:46] <cafuego> Psies. Weg ermee.
[11:46] <lupine_85> cas3: it's stable now
[11:46] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[11:46] <Capnbeefy> i need someone to walk me through it....hda1?
[11:46] <Seveas> gnomefreak, ban-on-sight
[11:46] <cas3> very cool
[11:46] <lupine_85> ok
[11:46] <gnomefreak> Seveas: i didnt know he was known
[11:47] <Seveas> he's not
[11:47] <lupine_85> in a terminal: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
[11:47] <riotkittie> heh.
[11:47] <Seveas> except to me
[11:47] <noobcook> lol
[11:47] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[11:47] <Capnbeefy> k
[11:47] <noobcook> make a banlist =p
[11:47] <||arifaX> Wooooh HS^
[11:47] <apokryphos> we have one
[11:47] <apokryphos> and we have a bantracker :)
[11:47] <BlueLaguna> anyone have any ideas to my cpu usage?
[11:47] <noobcook> cool
[11:47] <marc> for what its worth, i agree with hs^ - the linux desktop is just misssing the professional edge the latter versions of Windows have in their GUIs
[11:47] <noobcook> now all u need is revolving door apokryphos =p
[11:47] <lupine_85> Capnbeefy: once you've done that, the "/" in your normal boot becomes "/mnt".
[11:48] <hou5ton> Hey friends ... trying to get a project completed .... Where is the Open Office /usr/template directory ... or how can I find it?
[11:48] <lupine_85> so then just edit /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst as needed
[11:48] <cafuego> marc: Well, as soon as you donate a few million dollars for developers, we'll see if we can fix it.
[11:48] <cas3> I dunno marc, I think qt competes
[11:48] <||arifaX> BlueLaguna: whats the problem in this picture?
[11:48] <lupine_85> marc: mine is pretty :)
[11:48] <cas3> mine's shiney
[11:48] <marc> lupine_85, cas3, screenshots?
[11:48] <Capnbeefy> ok i got an error
[11:48] <cafuego> marc: Personally, I think perhaps OSX does it better. Windows is just awful.
[11:48] <funkyHat> Mine's pretty slick too ;)
[11:48] <lupine_85> sure
[11:48] <lupine_85> http://www.lupine.me.uk/img/purdy.png
[11:49] <lifepositive> funkyHat: you here?
[11:49] <ikonia> lupine_85 where are you in the uk
[11:49] <lupine_85> yeah
[11:49] <Capnbeefy> cant find /dev/hda1/mnt in ect/fstab or ect/mtab
[11:49] <noobcook> i just came into an interesting program people if ud like to know =p
[11:49] <noobcook> for windows
[11:49] <funkyHat> lifepositive, yeah, still stuck at the same point?
[11:49] <lifepositive> funkyHat: yes a window opens and says how many mb's need to be dl etc!  but nothing downloads
[11:49] <mnoir> lupine_85: i see fallopian tubes and all the other connected stuff - very nice
[11:49] <hou5ton> THere needs to be some kind of a visual tree of sorts, to help us find things like the Open Office /usr/template directory
[11:49] <t1000> after i started a torrent in azureus it closes automatically after a few seconds and I got trouble when i restarted ubuntu. can someone help pliz?
[11:49] <lifepositive> funkyHat: can you send me a working torrent file for me to test
[11:50] <ikonia> noobcook not really
[11:50] <lupine_85> Capnbeefy: you missed out a space between /dev/hda1 and /mnt
[11:50] <noobcook> ikonia you know you do=p
[11:50] <funkyHat> lifepositive, ahh, that probably means the torrent you're trying to connect to isn't active anymore
[11:50] <ikonia> no thanks
[11:50] <lifepositive> t1000: try Bittorrent :P
[11:50] <BlueLaguna> ||arifaX: I'm trying to figure out what's using up my cpu.  There's nothing that would indicate the process in top
[11:50] <Gabby_Hayes> hou5ton  .. use  mc  from a command line  :-)
[11:50] <lupine_85> mn
[11:50] <funkyHat> lifepositive, what are you trying to download?
[11:50] <lupine_85> mnoir: mecha uterus++
[11:50] <lifepositive> funkyHat: yiu got one for me to test?
[11:50] <noobcook> owell
[11:50] <BlueLaguna> Just a high load average and 87%
[11:50] <Capnbeefy> ok thanks lupine..
[11:50] <hou5ton> Gabby_Hayes:   what is mc?
[11:50] <BlueLaguna> No clue to what's doing that
[11:51] <ikonia> hou5ton midnight command - file manager
[11:51] <lupine_85> marc: polished enough for you?
[11:51] <funkyHat> lupine_85, nice :), same emerald theme as me :)
[11:51] <marc> sorry, please excuse me whilst i run out of physical memory
[11:51] <marc> one second..
[11:51] <lifepositive> funkyHat: a python PDF file
[11:51] <Gabby_Hayes> mc = midnight commander .. a comand line gui that lets you look at your disk, and what is on it
[11:51] <lupine_85> lol
[11:51] <lupine_85> it's a 1MB PNG
[11:51] <hou5ton> well .... i guess I have the file manager that came with the install ... but still can't seem to find what I need
[11:51] <marc> lupine_85: nice background - but i think youre anti-aliased fonts are awfully mickey mouse
[11:51] <gabriel_> server irc.freenode.net
[11:51] <lifepositive> funkyHat: where can I get a torrent to test?
[11:52] <cas3> I only have screens of my ipaq running the familiar distro
[11:52] <lupine_85> ?
[11:52] <lupine_85> they're just fontws
[11:52] <hou5ton> Gabby_Hayes:   I'll go get mc
[11:52] <lupine_85> fonts*
[11:52] <||arifaX> BlueLaguna: what hardware do you run on?
[11:52] <funkyHat> lifepositive, the ubuntu live CD torrent
[11:52] <gnomefreak> gabriel_: you mean cli with ncursers
[11:52] <lupine_85> I can't tell the difference between most of them
[11:52] <mnoir> hou5ton: nautilus has some very nice formats - prolly useful ones too
[11:52] <lifepositive> funkyHat: where i get that?
[11:52] <gnomefreak> there is no cli gui they are exact oppisite
[11:52] <cas3> ...
[11:52] <lupine_85> konsole == cli gui :p
[11:52] <BlueLaguna> ||arifaX: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz
[11:52] <hou5ton> mnoir:   yes .. and it's already on here
[11:53] <BlueLaguna> 2GB RAM
[11:53] <noobcook> found a program that can enter any fat32 based windows account without knowing AND passwords even admin :o
[11:53] <cas3> well, ncurses that look pretty
[11:53] <ikonia> noobcook we don't care - this isn't a windows channel
[11:53] <noobcook> wheres the winblows channel
[11:53] <noobcook> windows*
[11:53] <gnomefreak> lupine_85: not really konsole is gui
[11:53] <t1000> lifepositive,  ubuntu and azures worked fine for downloading torrents before that specific torrent
[11:53] <ikonia> join #windows
[11:53] <gnomefreak> noobcook: ##windows
[11:53] <mnoir> hou5ton: i think it is unlikely that mc would do a lot better
[11:53] <noobcook> excellent =p
[11:53] <mnoir> hou5ton: but tias - i use the kde version of mc
[11:53] <noobcook> time to grief
[11:54] <funkyHat> lifepositive, I don't actually know :/
[11:54] <lifepositive> t1000: azures is annoying! keeps telling me it wasnt shut down cleanly
[11:54] <lifepositive> funkyHat: watch your nose, its growing ;)
[11:54] <mnoir> lupine_85: i have become addicted to the mc profile in konq :)
[11:55] <cas3> lifepositive: use a different program if azures isn't doing it's job
[11:55] <noobcook> hey ikonia would installing /kernal/arch/i386/kernal be causing my crashes?
[11:55] <BlueLaguna> Then HTTP
[11:55] <funkyHat> lifepositive, ah got it...
[11:55] <lifepositive> cas3: azures is annoying! keeps telling me it wasnt shut down cleanly
[11:55] <ikonia> noobcook what do you mean
[11:55] <lifepositive> cas3: what one?
[11:55] <funkyHat> lifepositive, http://releases.ubuntu.com/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[11:55] <lupine_85> BlueLaguna: rtorrent++
[11:55] <lifepositive> funkyHat: cheers
[11:55] <hou5ton> how about if someone just shows me a big bunch of mercy right now and go ahead and tell me where to put new OO Impress templates I'm trying to add.  :)
[11:55] <lupine_85> especially on a 100mbps duplex serv0r :D
[11:55] <cas3> lifepositive: well you have the original, bit tornado, I use ktorrent
[11:55] <noobcook> at the install stage i install the i386-base drivers i thoguht that what im meant to do but maybe not?
[11:55] <Tox> whats the diffrent between alternate and desktop ubuntu ?
[11:55] <cas3> there's like a million torrent clients out there
[11:56] <JosefK> Tox: ncurses or GUI install
[11:56] <cas3> there's even one that runs in the background as a daemon
[11:56] <ikonia> noobcook at install YOU don't do anything - it does it all for you
[11:56] <noobcook> well that doesn't work with ubuntu =p
[11:56] <noobcook> i think top and bottom is my hardware isnt suited
[11:56] <ikonia> noobcook you don't know that
[11:56] <BlueLaguna> any ideas on my cpu usage issue? :-/
[11:56] <Tox> what do you mean ncurses ? i don't understand
[11:57] <lupine_85> !ncurses
[11:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ncurses - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:57] <lupine_85> !!
[11:57] <lifepositive> funkyHat: yep that works :)  it says 4 days to download :)  running at 1.62KB/s :)
[11:57] <lifepositive> funkyHat: so it was a faulty file before
[11:57] <lupine_85> Tox: it's a console interface library/system
[11:57] <JosefK> Tox: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/images/w2u40.gif
[11:57] <lifepositive> not ffaulty but you know what I mean
[11:57] <JosefK> Tox: ^ ncurses
[11:57] <lupine_85> amazingly, it's quite good-looking
[11:57] <cas3> lupine: does ubotu bot have a list of all topics?
[11:57] <Tox> thanx
[11:58] <funkyHat> lifepositive, cool :-). Wasn't necessarily a faulty file though, it was probably that there was noone else connected to the tracker for that torrent
[11:58] <brianski> anyone here gotten xen to work on edgy/amd64 ?
[11:58] <mnoir> cas3: yes - at that uri just about 10 lines above this
[11:58] <ikonia> brianski I'm not sure if xen is in ubuntu, I've not stubled across any docs on it
[11:58] <ikonia> !xen
[11:58] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[11:58] <ikonia> oooh there you go
[11:59] <brianski> wtfoh nice
[11:59] <brianski> thx
[11:59] <hou5ton> The problem with the search feature on Nautilus is that it doesn't seem to do a proper complete search ... just searches whatever dir you have it in at the moment
[11:59] <hou5ton> which isn't worth much
[11:59] <cafuego> ikonia: it is, but doesn't work too great (on i386 anyway)
[11:59] <cas3> coolo thanks
[11:59] <brianski> here's hoping it applies to amd64
[11:59] <lifepositive> funkyHat: ok
[11:59] <Pelo> hou5ton,  just select the file system from the option
[11:59] <brianski> cafuego: why isn't it that great on i386?
[11:59] <Tox> so i must to choose desktop if i want to have pure gui instalation ?
[12:00] <mnoir> hou5ton: there are several alternatives - locate is one
[12:00] <cafuego> brianski: I use the Debian Edgy kernels for it, the i386 Ubuntu xen crashes horrible when you boot a second VM.
[12:00] <n2diy> hou5ton: use locate in a terminal.
[12:00] <YupItsMe> i'm new
[12:00] <hou5ton> mnoir:   n2diy  ... THANKS ... that did it
[12:00] <hou5ton> talk about a weird place for a template