=== zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-238-72.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === zenrox__ [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-238-72.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === Kraken [n=jon@stott1.demon.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === rexbinary [n=rexbinar@unaffiliated/rexbinary] has joined #xubuntu [01:21] !beryl [01:21] Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-238-72.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === vidd_laptop [n=vidd@static-72-86-135-233.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-20-13.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-20-13.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:39] wb magic_ninja [01:39] whats up [01:39] playin some cs source and fighting with gf [01:40] !build-essentail [01:40] finally got steam working, but its in directx rendering and i needa figure out how to get it into software rendering [01:40] Sorry, I don't know anything about build-essentail - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [01:40] !build-essential [01:40] Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!) [01:42] !investigate > Commander-Crowe === tuna-fish- [n=tuna@tunamasiina.kortex.jyu.fi] has joined #xubuntu [01:44] !investigate > somerville32 [01:44] lol [01:44] Please don't abuse the bot. [01:44] whats that do anyway?\ [01:45] !investigate > magic_ninja [01:45] i was actually seeing what it did, but i didn't get anything [01:45] !investigate > vidd_laptop [01:45] so what does it do? [01:46] To send answers to yourself, please use /msg instead of spamming the channel [01:46] vidd_laptop wants you to know: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... [01:47] ohh, i get it, its like getting the bot to PM you so you can figure out problems and such [01:47] thats pretty nifty [01:47] :) [01:47] (: [01:47] see somerville32 aren't ya glad you got me around to help ya out [01:48] :D [01:48] [01:48] man women...what do ya do? [01:48] i wonder if there is an xchat plugin for smilies, there should be [01:49] I just remembered somone actually use a (shi) as a smilie. [01:49] are you from asia or something/ [01:49] germany? [01:50] somerville32, whats investigate? [01:50] kalikiana, you a she? [01:50] Commander-Crowe, If you msg ubotu, you can pull up the factoids instead of paging them to the channel here :) [01:50] hmm...i'm having problems getting opengl to work with css anyone got any ideas, perhaps I should call valve tech support...i wonder if they would even be able to help [01:50] ok [01:50] I'm from Germany, not Asia. And I'm male. :) === vidd_laptop saw magic_ninja refer to kalikiana as "woman" === kalikiana is actually a Hawaiian name which would be Christian. [01:52] Many people in IRC assume the trailing 'a' to indicate feminine. === vidd_laptop always assumes ALL ppl in chat are male...even the ones CLAIMING to be otherwise [01:53] lol [01:53] *g [01:53] Anyhows... [01:53] :] [01:53] So, who is on Edgy? === vidd_laptop had an uncomfortable meet some years ago....[shutter] === vidd_laptop is on edgy [01:54] me === kalikiana is on edgy of course. [01:55] i didn't upgrade to fiesty yet, i have had alot of people tell me its kinda unstable like adema [01:55] somerville32, you still on feisty? [01:55] Yup [01:56] Hey. I have an idea. Lets all go visit #xubuntu-offtopic and talk about what we'd like to see in Feisty, ok? I'll listen to all your ideas :) [01:56] He's *still* on feisty? *g [01:56] vidd_laptop, nah, I've upgraded giddy goat already (7.10) === kalikiana wanders to #xubuntu-offtopic [01:57] vidd_laptop: no sir you didn't [01:57] i got an old 500mhz laptop i think ima do a lfs, would you guys say its helpful for learning? [01:58] yeah [01:58] i want to be a network admin, preferably a linux network admin, and a good one at that [01:58] oh [01:58] so i figure lfs would help alot === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust513.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:01] ohh well i'm off to play some css, but i was wondering how i can renice it so it will run at like -15 or so? === vidd [n=vidd@static-72-86-135-233.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === archangelpetro [n=petroleu@82.152.206.67] has joined #xubuntu === DarthLappy [n=Angus@pdpc/supporter/student/DarthShrine] has joined #xubuntu === skarface [i=antix@ip68-228-163-158.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:13] how do I stop iptables? [02:13] services iptables stop doesn't work [02:14] load firestarter [02:14] it is a firewall program [02:15] this is non-gui === vidd_laptop does not know a firewall configuration program the is CLI based [02:16] =[ === Crazy_Ma1 is now known as Crazy_Man === Crazy_Man [n=Crazy_Ma@cpe-76-185-11-94.tx.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:23] wb Crazy_Man [02:24] i think i'm going to upgrade to fiesty [02:24] you guys got any ideas/reccomendations/concerns? [02:24] back up your system [02:25] oh! and pray! [02:25] =] [02:28] perhaps just a backports repo [02:29] magic_ninja, upgrading is risky / uses lots of bandwidth at this time - feisty only has one beta out. You will be updating a lot everyday [02:29] why dont you try it within a virtual machine ? [02:29] good idea [02:29] you know how to use qemu ? [02:29] actually thinking backport, i just want the .9 nvidia drivers [02:30] and i have no problem installing them from nvidia's website === tuna-fish- [n=tuna@tunamasiina.kortex.jyu.fi] has joined #xubuntu [02:30] in the mean time ima go play some choppy css [02:31] have fun guys, MagicFab thank you for the advice === atarinox [n=atarinox@c-68-83-117-121.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:31] magic_ninja, and report back here by 9AM :) [02:31] lol [02:31] can't i work at 4am [02:33] hi can somebody help me with a hardware issue, or recommend a channel for hardware troubleshooting? [02:33] what iss you having? [02:33] atarinox: this one [02:34] atarinox: #ubuntu, they are all good, but #ubuntu is a high traffic channel so i reccomend trying this one first so you don't have to read 5 lines to find your answer [02:35] my first pc build booted up first time, and we turned it off and tried a 2nd boot, and now can't get any display [02:35] does it sound like my motherboard is fried? [02:35] atarinox: doubtful [02:35] atarinox: do you get any beeps from your mobo? [02:35] no beeps [02:36] onboard graphics? [02:36] we didnt change anything, just rebooted and no display [02:36] no, it's a pci-e vid card [02:36] no integrated [02:37] is the tower coming on? [02:38] yeah powers up just fine. also, when we have the cd-rom hooked up to the ide on the mobo, it won't open. but when its just powered on w/ no ide hooked up it opens just fine [02:38] do you have power lights on your tower? [02:38] yeah powers up fine, fans and lights [02:38] lights on keyboard? [02:38] try the monitor on a different computer, start with trouble shooting the cheapest parts first [02:39] do you have any display at all? [02:39] yeah monitor is working alright....no display on the tower [02:39] lol "cheepest" he says [02:39] sounds like a display card issue.... [02:40] is the moniter jack plugged in tight, and is the display adapter in the slot proper and tight? [02:40] what about that cd-rom issue though? what do you think about that/ [02:40] yeah the card's in tight, and hte monitor cable is as well [02:40] worked fine the first time, got a display. then the 2nd try nothing [02:41] which is what makes me think it's a mobo issue [02:41] im going to recomend something a little drastic: [02:41] haha uh oh [02:41] you know how to reset the bios on the motherboard? [02:41] no... [02:41] tower right? [02:41] yeah [02:42] how can we reset the bios w/ no display? [02:42] the easiest way is to pull the power cord and remove the battery on the motherboard [02:43] power on the mobo (you will not see anything, but the resisters will discharge) [02:43] and hten just replace it? [02:43] then replace the battery and the power cord [02:43] its easier then searching for the "clear cmos" jumper [02:44] ok [02:44] trying it now [02:44] and you wont fry the board by forgetting to reset the jumper [02:44] then just replace the battery and psu cord and power up? [02:44] yep [02:45] yeah still nothing [02:45] you did try to powwer up without the battery and power cord right? [02:45] we didnt make any changes to the bios [02:45] yeah [02:45] you have a spare display card? [02:46] no thats the problem...we've got all agp vid cards and no agp slot on the new mobo [02:47] but this cd-rom thing is what makes me think it's the motherboard...is there another reason the cd-rom wouldnt work if hooked up to the IDE, but would work if disconnected IDE and just hooked up to the psu [02:47] yes...the ribbon could be on backards [02:47] well the ribbons pins only allow it to go on one way [02:48] we've got the blue end hooked up to mobo [02:48] or it could be telling the mobo it is the same as another device on the same ribbon.... [02:48] you have one device per ribbon? [02:48] only one IDE ribbon and one device hooked up to it [02:48] the hard drive is sata [02:48] and no other devices [02:49] you have another mobo that can use that display card? [02:49] nope [02:50] did you get the mobo @ a store or online? [02:50] newegg [02:50] and the display? [02:51] display card on newegg as well [02:51] monitor has just been sitting around forever [02:51] works though [02:51] we have eliminated the monitor as the issue [02:52] haha [02:52] yes [02:52] remove the cd.... [02:52] boot system..... [02:52] yeah tried that [02:52] no display [02:52] can you get the keyboard lights to repond to num lock and cap lock? [02:53] havent tried hooking up a keyboard yet [02:53] *slaps forehead* [02:53] actually, maybe they did....i think theyre giving up though, calling newegg and telling them it's a problem with the motherboard [02:54] atarinox: ohh, you mean you just build this? [02:54] yeah [02:54] did you buy mobo proc ram and case as one or separate [02:54] everything separate [02:54] but it booted up fine the first time...which is strange [02:55] then we tried rebooting to get into bios and nothing [02:55] atarinox: your comp has a mind of its own [02:55] haha [02:55] luckily it's not mine [02:55] a friend's building it [02:55] What brand motherboard is it? [02:56] atarinox: you may have shocked something if the case is open, but if you don't get beeps then its probably not a tower issue, do you have a spare gc to put in it? [02:56] biostar T-series [02:56] no, we'd need a pci vid card and all our spares are agp...no agp slot on the mobo === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-20-13.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === maxamillion [n=max@r74-192-178-37.htvlcmta01.hnvitx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:07] *wave* maxamillion [03:09] hi hi === somerville32 [n=ubuntu@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #xubuntu [03:10] Hi [03:10] lol [03:10] I just rebooted for the first time since upgrading to Feisty [03:10] Totally hosed, lol [03:10] I just get "GRUB" [03:11] ouch! === somerville32 gets hacking. [03:12] like i say hack till it hurts... i mean WORKS!!! [03:13] somerville32: What was your uptime? [03:13] looks like 3 minutes now! [03:13] =] [03:14] lol [03:14] 4 days [03:14] Ok [03:14] Reinstalled grub and reconfigured it [03:14] lets go see if I fixed the problem :) === somerville32 waves. [03:14] Wish me luck :) [03:14] somerville32: good luck === maxamillion signed on just to help triage this ;) [03:19] if i enable packports should i disable the others? [03:19] magic_ninja: no [03:35] is it dapper or drapper? === grumpymo1e [n=warren@c220-237-175-49.lowrp1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu [03:36] dapper [03:36] (drake) [03:37] whats the command to check for disk space? [03:37] dh -r? [03:37] no [03:38] no? [03:38] du -h [03:38] dh doesn't exist with my installation [03:38] df -h [03:38] du is for a single direcotry, df is for partitions [03:38] disk usage and disk free, respectively [03:40] <3 df === Przemcio78 [n=Przemcio@83.2.19.132] has joined #xubuntu [03:41] how od i undo a aptitude install dist-upgrade? [03:42] i like xubuntu logout screen [03:42] Commander-Crowe: you don't [03:42] how to obtain such in other distro? [03:42] haha [03:42] ran out of space [03:42] welll.he did [03:43] Commander-Crowe: well ... you could try sudo aptitude clean and redo it in hopes it would resolve itself, but i really don't think it is possible to revert backwards [03:45] nope [03:49] E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. [03:49] I need help [03:49] I ran sudo dpkg --configure -a [03:49] nothing happened [03:49] Commander-Crowe: did you run "sudo dpkg --configur ... nvm [03:50] I jsut got error [03:50] Commander-Crowe: awesome [03:50] I know [03:50] Commander-Crowe: is the system usable? [03:50] I'm os proud [03:50] no [03:50] not anymore [03:50] how about [03:50] sudo dpkg reconfigure apt-get [03:50] or [03:50] live cd, backup files ... re-install ... it would probably be the quickest and easiest way === cilkay [n=cilkay@CPE00d0b743a22f-CM0011ae01fcbe.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:51] sudo dpkg --configure apt-get -a [03:58] How do I add another language to Keyboard Layout Switcher? [03:59] !keyboard-layout [03:59] Sorry, I don't know anything about keyboard-layout - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [03:59] bah! [03:59] cilkay: just a moment, lemme get you a link [03:59] thanks === somerville32 [n=ubuntu@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #xubuntu [04:00] No luck :( [04:00] somerville32: i sorry [04:01] I got grub to work again [04:01] but now I got "File not found" errors [04:01] Wait a tick! === somerville32 hacks some more. [04:01] somerville32: not to side track from what you are currently working on, but i remember you posting a link about switching language packs for the keyboard layout and now i can't find it ... do you remember where it is? ... cilkay needs it [04:02] There is an applet [04:02] maxamillion: I found something and will try it. http://ubuntu.sabza.org/2006/10/13/xubuntu-easily-switch-keyboard-layout/ [04:02] Right click, add applet [04:02] Keyboard switcher [04:02] or something like that [04:02] No, that applet doesn't allow you to add new languages. [04:02] cilkay: yeah, that sounds about right [04:03] ok, i gotta run ... bbl [04:04] cilkay: Install them :] === somerville32 has so nailed his issue. [04:04] They were pointing to /boot/ [04:05] but I have a seperate partition for my boot files [04:05] so when in grub, no need for the /boot/ part === somerville32 hopes it will work. [04:05] Installing them apparently involves modifying xorg.conf === cilkay doing that now [04:09] Done. Added "fr" to Option XkbLayout === Jester45 [n=ryan@dsl-193-91.jax.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu === cilkay [n=cilkay@CPE00d0b743a22f-CM0011ae01fcbe.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:10] whats the ati driver [04:10] fglrx? [04:11] !fglrx [04:11] To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [04:11] Jester45, yes [04:11] oo [04:11] i know what i did wrong [04:11] im slow [04:11] didnt install it [04:12] its xorg-drivers-fglrx right? === DarthLappy [n=Angus@pdpc/supporter/student/DarthShrine] has joined #xubuntu [04:13] somethin like that [04:14] its juts driver not drivers === somerville32 [n=somervil@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #xubuntu [04:15] wb somerville32 [04:15] :) [04:15] you should join us in offtopic === somerville32 is back on Xubuntu :) [04:15] vidd_laptop: also could you tell me what my hostname was when i join was it regular or somthing like blahblah.blahblah.youwishyourlikeme === Commander-Crowe is now known as COmmander|away === COmmander|away is now known as Commander|away [04:16] bye all [04:16] Jester45, n=ryan@dsl-193-91.jax.centurytel.net [04:17] darn [04:17] how do you get a custom one [04:18] o well i dont care that much [04:18] no clue === cellofellow [n=josh@209.193.110.37] has joined #xubuntu === priidu [n=priit@220.248.71.164] has joined #xubuntu [04:23] I'm having some trouble with GTK Themes. [04:24] When I installed MurrinaBlue2 from xfce-look.org, everything is rather olive-drab and brown. Not really attractive. [04:25] lol [04:25] how do I fix that? [04:30] if i enable packports should i disable the others? [04:30] packports? [04:30] *b [04:33] I know there's a big discussion in -offtopic, but I'd like some advice on GTK Themes. I want something that ISN'T brown. [04:42] any good games for ubuntu? [04:42] maybe something online [04:42] !forums | atarinox [04:42] atarinox: The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums. === ellioTb [n=elliotbo@66-90-143-220.dyn.grandenetworks.net] has joined #xubuntu === quad3d [n=quad3d@72.183.114.200] has joined #xubuntu [05:14] hey somerville32 i added a backports repo, i believe the new nvidia driver is on there, what command would i use to install it? [05:14] apt-get update [05:14] apt-get upgrade [05:22] somer the backports doesn't have the new cards im pretty sure [05:22] lsmod | grep nvidia? === Commander-Crowe [n=chatzill@unaffiliated/Commander-Crowe] has joined #xubuntu [05:44] so, what do I do about brown GTK? [05:44] cellofellow: try Murrine Cappucino ;) [05:45] I don't want brown. I have MurrinaBlue2 and it's brown and olive drab. [05:45] cleanice is at least nuetral. [05:45] cellofellow: Industrial is nice and light [05:45] yes, I've use that. [05:45] cellofellow: Murrine Graphite is all gray [05:45] but brown edges and highlightes are still there. [05:46] no [05:46] unless you have something broken [05:46] MurrineEalm is all green and ornage :D [05:46] pretty cold though [05:47] mabywell, I'll see what's up. === rimmington [n=rhys@c220-237-163-193.lowrp1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu === rimmington [n=rhys@c220-237-163-193.lowrp1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has left #xubuntu [] [05:59] TheSheep: in this screenshot: http://cellofellow.homelinux.net/ubuntu/Screenshot-2.png, there's still little brown borders around buttons, and the highlights around selections are brown. [06:02] TheSheep: ? === UbuntuSt1ts [n=StatsBot@bl4-221-65.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #xubuntu === MagicFab [n=magicfab@ubuntu/member/magicfab] has joined #xubuntu === priit_ [n=priit@58.247.250.244] has joined #xubuntu === ron_o [n=ron@12-210-175-75.client.mchsi.com] has joined #xubuntu === troyr23 [n=troy@dwtt-01-0013.dsl.iowatelecom.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:19] How do I disable force file checks? Cause my hard drive has corrupt sectors. And now my pc is in a loop of "hard drive contains errors won't boot" [06:19] When do you get that error? [06:22] I just turned the thing on and it was like "/hda has been mounted 37 times without being checked, force file check" [06:22] And it found errors not it won't start up without saying it found errors last scan and its trying again [06:23] Its a laptop and i have no idea how to replace the HDD in it [06:23] Just press crtl + alt + c [06:23] cellofellow: looks like outdoors theme :/ [06:23] it's grey. [06:23] so why? [06:24] cellofellow: check your .gtkrc and .gtkrc-2 [06:24] k [06:25] which is...? [06:25] cellofellow: ~/.gtkrc [06:25] not there [06:26] nothing happens when I hit ctrl + alt + C [06:26] cellofellow: ~/.gtkrc-2.0 [06:26] they aren't in ~/ [06:26] [17179666.504000] Buffer I/O errpr pm device hda1. locial block 230442 [06:27] cellofellow: the yare hidden files [06:27] I know that. [06:27] now it saying that fsck of the root filesystem has failed. minal must be performed then the system restarts. [06:27] minal? [06:27] wait, they are there but not showing even when I say show hidden files in thunar [06:31] AM I going to have to reinstall xubuntu to get acces s to my pc again or can anyone help me cancel the pcs doing a forece file check on startup [06:32] huh. my .gtkrc-2.0 file does say outdoors [06:32] cellofellow: comment that out [06:33] cellofellow: you probably used some gtk theme switcher [06:33] cellofellow: that put it in there [06:33] the xfce one. this has KDE comments in it. I originally installed Kubuntu then switched. [06:33] hah [06:34] ever wondered how there is a qt engine for gtk, but no gtk engine for qt? [06:35] I would sure like a GTK for QT. === kalikiana7 [n=kalikian@xdsl-87-78-22-77.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu [06:38] how do I apply an editted .gtkrc file? [06:38] .gtkrc-2.0 [06:39] cellofellow: just swithc the theme using theme switcher [06:39] k === kalikiana7 is now known as kalikiana [06:43] ok, just deleted that file and used the switcher to fix it. Now it works. [06:44] Any way to theme apps seperately? [06:44] Like XChat has another theme than Gaim? [06:44] why? whatever happened to consistency? [06:46] I want to see - if it's possible - if it's any fun or useful. :) [06:46] I don't know. [06:46] I wouldn't really do that with more than tow apps for long. [06:46] I tend to forget about theme changes after a week anyway. [06:47] kalikiana: see the gtk theme tutorial on art.gnome.org [06:47] kalikiana: it is possible to even style a single button in a single app differently [06:47] Is there a way to turn off its thing that it will force file check the hard drive after like 37 or whatever mounts? [06:47] I settled on IndustrialTango. I didn't like the murrina widgets, to blocky. [06:48] troyr23: yes, replace the '1 0' in /etc/fstab with '0 0' [06:48] troyr23: or use tune2fs [06:48] TheSheep: you were faster than me with typing :( [06:51] TheSheep: thx for the link, i found it === quad3datwork3 [n=quad3dat@12.110.209.115] has joined #xubuntu [07:00] does the install usually freeze at 77% [07:00] I decided to reinstlal [07:00] cause i couldn't figure out how to edit anything [07:01] it happens, but not necesserily every time you try. [07:02] s/necesserily/hopefully [07:02] How much ram do you have? [07:03] troyr23: if it's livecd, then it will freeze if you have less than 192MB ram [07:03] troyr23: use alternate cd instead [07:03] troyr23: if it's the alternate cd, then it probably generates anthy dictionary [07:03] troyr23: you can skip that step by switching to a second terminal and killing ti [07:03] it [07:05] TheSheep: I've wondered how I can make the buttons that are embedded in webpages in firefox look better. Use the native GTK widgets. [07:05] Can I do that? [07:05] I put the xubuntu cd in and told it to format and reinstall . it has 256mb of ram [07:05] cellofellow: no, but you can style them with css or use images [07:06] ok [07:06] CSS is one thing on the "Code to Learn" list. [07:06] cellofellow: all the normal properties work -- border, background, color, etc. [07:07] yeah, ok. [07:07] cellofellow: you must remember though that not all browsers allow to style the buttons, so use it for nicer buttons but don't rely on it [07:10] I thought you meant I could set my browser's general CSS settings for nicer buttons. [07:11] cellofellow: that's possible too, although I can't imagine a design that'd look good on all pages and backgrounds [07:12] yeah, ok. It's just when I use Konqueror or Opera or even Explorer (in XP) the buttons look a little better. [07:13] cellofellow: depends on the page [07:14] cellofellow: but they do look better on average [07:14] Opera has ugly widgets [07:14] firefox's are just generic gray squares. [07:14] somerville32: no, you just didn't configure your qt [07:15] somerville32: took me a month to make opera look good [07:15]