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| thumper | hey mpt | 02:00 |
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| thumper | mpt: what do you think about using the icon from the bazaar-vcs.org website for the branch icon? | 02:01 |
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| mpt | thumper, I think it would make sense with the diamond removed | 02:04 |
| thumper | mpt: I don't quite understand | 02:05 |
| thumper | you mean just the arrow? | 02:05 |
| mpt | yes | 02:05 |
| thumper | hmm.. | 02:06 |
| thumper | mpt: how do I go about mocking this up? | 02:06 |
| mpt | maybe with a shadow added | 02:06 |
| mpt | Is the Bazaar logo available in vector format? | 02:06 |
| thumper | I think so | 02:07 |
| lifeless | mat nuzum did it | 02:09 |
| thumper | lifeless: are we ok to use it? | 02:10 |
| thumper | licence wise | 02:10 |
| lifeless | on launchpad? I see no reason why not. but the diamond is fairly integral IMO | 02:10 |
| thumper | I do like the diamond too | 02:10 |
| lifeless | its what makes it into a road sign | 02:10 |
| thumper | it makes it a "sign" | 02:10 |
| lifeless | rather than an arrow, or pissing chinaman | 02:11 |
| thumper | I was also wanting to use this image as a "badge" that we can use to tag specs and bugs in the listings to show associated branches | 02:11 |
| lifeless | it doesn't scale down all the well unfortunately | 02:13 |
| thumper | lifeless: I think the one that is used as favicon for the tab icon looks ok (if a little blurry) | 02:18 |
| lifeless | ok | 02:19 |
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| Nafallo | was there a way on the mirrorspage to see which one supports IPv6? :-) | 02:25 |
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| lifeless | Nafallo: might need to file a wishlist bug, or spec for that | 02:25 |
| Nafallo | thanks lifeless :-) | 02:26 |
| Nafallo | bug against launchpad or a particular component? | 02:26 |
| Nafallo | UMP? | 02:28 |
| Nafallo | lifeless: ^ :-) | 02:29 |
| lifeless | soyuz specifically, but we'll worry about that - just against the launchpad product is fine | 02:33 |
| Nafallo | I might aswell do it right from the start :-) | 02:34 |
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| Nafallo | bug 78636 | 02:37 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 78636 in soyuz "Doesn't show which mirrors supports IPv6" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78636 | 02:37 |
| Nafallo | lifeless: care to set it to wishlist? seems I can't :-P | 02:37 |
| mpt | That's bug 55195 | 02:39 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 55195 in malone "Set your own bug to wishlist" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55195 | 02:39 |
| lifeless | Nafallo: matsubara will ;) | 02:39 |
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| Nafallo | mpt: lol! :-) | 02:40 |
| Nafallo | lifeless: oki :-) | 02:40 |
| mpt | It appears our virtual hosting could do with some improvement | 02:40 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #78636 in soyuz "Doesn't show which mirrors supports IPv6" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78636 | 02:46 |
| Nafallo | wee! :-) | 02:47 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #78637 in launchpad-support-tracker "URL differs from displayed text" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78637 | 02:51 |
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| mpt | jamesh, check out http://www.google.com/search?q=%22set+your+own+bug+to+wishlist%22 | 03:23 |
| mpt | What do you think is causing result #2, <https://launchpad.net/malone?id=1>? | 03:23 |
| mpt | especially given that there are no results from <http://www.google.com/search?as_lq=https%3A%2F%2Flaunchpad.net%2Fmalone%3Fid%3D1&btnG=Search> | 03:26 |
| jamesh | well, "https://launchpad.net/malone" is now https://launchpad.net/bugs | 03:27 |
| jamesh | there is a little box for entering a bug ID there that might generate a URL like that | 03:27 |
| jamesh | maybe someone linked to it | 03:28 |
| jamesh | https://launchpad.net/bugs?id=1 redirects through to bug 1 | 03:28 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 1 in ichthux "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 - Assigned to Raphal Pinson (raphink) | 03:28 |
| Nafallo | lol | 03:28 |
| Nafallo | people are assigned to that bug now? :-P | 03:28 |
| jamesh | Nafallo: it keeps on growing new bug tasks and comments and subscribers ... | 03:29 |
| jamesh | and web links and specifications | 03:29 |
| Nafallo | oh my | 03:29 |
| Nafallo | scary | 03:30 |
| Nafallo | time to sleep | 03:31 |
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| mpt | It's a frankenbug | 03:49 |
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| SteveA | morning | 08:20 |
| SteveA | goedemorgen | 08:20 |
| thumper | morning SteveA | 08:21 |
| thumper | reminder: dbschema | 08:21 |
| SteveA | thanks tim! | 08:24 |
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| carlos | morning | 09:22 |
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| jordi | carlos: sorry, I stayed at ITI until past 20:00 :U/ | 11:32 |
| carlos | jordi: no worries at all ;-) | 11:32 |
| carlos | jordi: anyway the ping was for another thing | 11:33 |
| jordi | how did it go? | 11:33 |
| jordi | oh | 11:33 |
| carlos | jordi: do you have any document with the pros and contras (is that English?) of using Rosetta by upstream projects? mhb asked me for it to ask Beryld developers to use Rosetta | 11:33 |
| carlos | jordi: well, we should take the decision and ask CC to confirm it | 11:34 |
| carlos | and we decided that will be a team, it's up to us to decide who will be in that team | 11:34 |
| jordi | ok | 11:39 |
| jordi | I don't have that doc in English, but I can wirte it soonish | 11:39 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #78669 in launchpad-support-tracker "automatic resolve text is impersonal." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78669 | 11:45 |
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| carlos | jordi: cool, thanks | 11:58 |
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| carlos | danilos: hey, how's going? | 12:08 |
| danilos | hey carlos, not too well | 12:09 |
| carlos | :-( | 12:09 |
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| jordi | danilos: what's wrong? | 12:14 |
| danilos | jordi: I just picked up a bit of a flue, but feeling like shit for almost entire week | 12:16 |
| jordi | ew | 12:16 |
| jordi | today's my second day at the new place. | 12:16 |
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| danilos | jordi: oh, how's it going? | 12:22 |
| danilos | jordi: you like it? (it was also at the uni, right?) | 12:22 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #78672 in soyuz "entries in custom upload tarballs with long names don't get extracted" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78672 | 12:28 |
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| carlos | salgado: ping | 12:35 |
| salgado | carlos, pong | 12:35 |
| carlos | salgado: I'm having problems to manage rosetta-admins team | 12:35 |
| carlos | salgado: the owner of that team is 'launchpad-admins' | 12:36 |
| carlos | salgado: sorry, just 'admins' | 12:36 |
| carlos | salgado: but I'm an administrator | 12:36 |
| salgado | what sort of problems? | 12:36 |
| carlos | salgado: I'm not able to disable memberships | 12:36 |
| carlos | I'm only able to set an expire date for the membership | 12:36 |
| carlos | is that expected? | 12:36 |
| salgado | carlos, what membership are you trying to disable? | 12:38 |
| carlos | salgado: daf's one | 12:38 |
| carlos | oh | 12:38 |
| carlos | wait | 12:38 |
| carlos | salgado: how confusing... | 12:39 |
| carlos | Subscription (*) Never | 12:39 |
| carlos | is that? | 12:39 |
| salgado | that's the expiration, no? | 12:39 |
| carlos | oh, no, it's 'subscription expires:' | 12:39 |
| carlos | right, I see it in two lines | 12:39 |
| salgado | there should be a button on the bottom of the page to deactivate it | 12:39 |
| carlos | instead of a single one | 12:39 |
| carlos | salgado: and it's there... it's just me being completely blink..... | 12:40 |
| carlos | salgado: sorry for the noise... | 12:40 |
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| salgado | heh. no worries | 12:40 |
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| cprov | SteveA: ping | 02:06 |
| SteveA | cprov: hello | 02:07 |
| cprov | SteveA: hi, do you have a minute to review the fix for bug 78452 ? | 02:07 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 78452 in soyuz "database import policy violation in ftpmaster" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78452 - Assigned to Celso Providelo (cprov) | 02:07 |
| cprov | SteveA: https://devpad.canonical.com/~andrew/paste/filevdEqgT.html | 02:08 |
| kiko | cprov, if he doesn't I do, ok? | 02:08 |
| cprov | kiko: seems like we have "Review It" day today :). thanks | 02:09 |
| SteveA | cprov: r=me with one note | 02:10 |
| cprov | kiko: but I have something more important for you, well I should say somewhat *frustrating* instead, the gpg shell test worked perfectly during the night, not a single failure. | 02:11 |
| SteveA | cprov: you should file a bug about that XXX | 02:11 |
| kiko | cprov, and uploads worked perfectly too? | 02:11 |
| SteveA | maybe mark it with a tag 'derivation', and add that tag to our set of proposed tags | 02:11 |
| SteveA | it'll be important to find derivation-related bugs and limitations and XXXes when we come to work on that | 02:11 |
| cprov | SteveA: right, it's already a blue-sky XXX. I will file a bug and not its number in the XXX. | 02:11 |
| cprov | SteveA: 'derivation' tag is a great idea ! | 02:12 |
| SteveA | ok, propose it on the Tagging page on help.launchpad.net, and we'll officially approve it tomorrow in the meeting | 02:12 |
| cprov | kiko: yes, they did after 21 UTC | 02:12 |
| cprov | SteveA: right, will do. Thanks. | 02:13 |
| kiko | cprov, and yet the shell script kept on working throughout that time? | 02:13 |
| kiko | cprov, have you asked elmo about the possibility of it being DNS? | 02:13 |
| cprov | kiko: yes, I left it running until this morning | 02:13 |
| kiko | cprov, one thing you could do is have an /etc entry added for the host -- it would rule out DNS completely | 02:13 |
| kiko | cprov, and no failures? | 02:13 |
| cprov | kiko: uhm, didn't have time yet (busy morning) | 02:14 |
| cprov | kiko: I will check this possibility with him. | 02:14 |
| cprov | kiko: no, not a single one. | 02:15 |
| elmo | it's super unlikely to be DNS | 02:15 |
| elmo | if our internal DNS was flakey, we would have had other problems by now | 02:15 |
| kiko | elmo, so it looks to be something on drescher itself then. kinda weird but that's life I guess | 02:15 |
| elmo | kiko: eh | 02:15 |
| elmo | you're assuming it's the network or the machines | 02:15 |
| kiko | no | 02:15 |
| elmo | it could just as well be the underlying software, either gpg or the keyserver | 02:15 |
| kiko | I mean "on drescher" in the more global sense | 02:15 |
| kiko | well, it could be the keyserver but it's unlikely now that cprov tells me a script has fetched keys from it continuously since yesterday with no errors | 02:16 |
| elmo | btw, another possible workaround would be to try each fetch again one time if it fails | 02:17 |
| cprov | elmo: we can try to make the signature verifier resilient, try to verify a failed signature a couple of time, let's say 3 for luck. | 02:19 |
| kiko | cprov, why don't you monkeypatch that in as a test? | 02:23 |
| cprov | kiko: tests don't fail. Well we can introduce a similar behaviour in zeca, I guess | 02:25 |
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| kiko | cprov, no, no I meant why don't you monkeypatch the change to "try 3 times" onto drescher | 02:29 |
| kiko | and see if it helps | 02:29 |
| cprov | kiko: aha, you meant back to the "Cowboy dev style". | 02:30 |
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| cprov | kiko: ok, I cook the patch and ask r=kiko ASAP | 02:31 |
| kiko | fill it with XXXs for full effect | 02:31 |
| cprov | kiko: ok, will do | 02:32 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #78683 in soyuz "SyncSource procedure is restricted to Ubuntu" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78683 | 02:36 |
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| carlos | see you | 02:51 |
| sabdfl | SteveA: is that lp-dependencies package sorted? | 02:57 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #78692 in launchpad "Ugly: Magic menu links to %7Eusername rather than ~username" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78692 | 03:51 |
| Nafallo | magic menu? :-) | 03:52 |
| SteveA | sabdfl: deb http://lpdebs.canonical.com/edgy ./ | 03:52 |
| SteveA | sabdfl: launchpad-developer-dependencies is the package name. | 03:52 |
| SteveA | sabdfl: available for dapper and edgy. not feisty yet. | 03:53 |
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| matthewrevell | salgado-lunch: Just to confirm, if someone has a dormant profile in LP and they try to create an account, we'll let them carry on as usual without mentioning anything in the ui? | 05:29 |
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| cprov | kiko-fud: check the gpg workaround you suggested at https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/pending-reviews/cprov/launchpad/trivialities-2/full-diff | 05:44 |
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| SteveA | matsubara: hi | 05:58 |
| matsubara | hello SteveA | 05:58 |
| SteveA | matsubara: do you have time for a voice call with me? | 05:58 |
| matsubara | SteveA: yes. skype or the voip thing? | 05:59 |
| SteveA | we can try skype | 06:00 |
| matsubara | SteveA: hmm I need recover my password. can you give me 5 min to set things up here? | 06:01 |
| SteveA | matsubara: sure | 06:01 |
| matsubara | SteveA: ok, I'm logged in | 06:03 |
| SteveA | me too | 06:03 |
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| salgado | matthewrevell, yeah, that's how it's intended to work | 06:11 |
| matthewrevell | salgado: cool, thanks | 06:11 |
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| jordi | carlos: no langpackgs for january released yet? | 06:15 |
| carlos | jordi: no, we had a small problem with cached .po files, pitti will release them tomorrow | 06:15 |
| carlos | danilos: btw, what's the status of your branch? | 06:16 |
| danilos | carlos: still working around some issues (it's not that it took that long, it's just that I fell asleep and only woke up about half an hour ago) | 06:16 |
| carlos | danilos: ok, don't worry I know you are not at 100% today | 06:17 |
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| kiko-fud | matthewrevell, and how it so works, I hope | 06:50 |
| kiko-fud | hah | 06:50 |
| kiko-fud | my mouse started working again | 06:50 |
| kiko-fud | cprov, wow, nice code! | 06:55 |
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| kiko | cprov, "Due to" | 06:56 |
| kiko | cprov, "the production system" | 06:56 |
| kiko | cprov, "the external keyserver" | 06:56 |
| cprov | kiko: really ? it maybe works too | 06:56 |
| kiko | cprov, "the failed verification" | 06:57 |
| cprov | kiko: oops | 06:57 |
| kiko | yes, it's a nice clean-up | 06:57 |
| kiko | cprov, "2 other times" | 06:57 |
| kiko | cprov, you should use str(err) (or repr(err) perhaps) | 06:57 |
| matthewrevell | kiko: Hello. I think I've come in part way through a conversation. | 06:57 |
| kiko | err.__str__() is evil | 06:57 |
| kiko | matthewrevell, whose conversation? :) | 06:58 |
| cprov | kiko: yes, I've noticed, thanks | 06:58 |
| matthewrevell | kiko: Erm, the bit where you say, "and how it so works" :) I'm not sure what that means. | 06:58 |
| LarstiQ | mine! | 06:58 |
| kiko | cprov, can you explain status.message versus status.args? | 06:58 |
| kiko | matthewrevell, where did I do that? | 06:59 |
| kiko | ah | 06:59 |
| cprov | kiko: sure, status.message ~ status.args[2] : | 06:59 |
| kiko | matthewrevell, I was referring to your chat with salgado | 06:59 |
| kiko | cprov, ah, ok. | 06:59 |
| kiko | cprov, r=kiko | 06:59 |
| matthewrevell | kiko: Ah right, yeah. My system crashed, so I didn't have the backlog to remind me of the context. | 06:59 |
| cprov | kiko: many thanks, do I also have perms to cherrypick it in drescher ASAP ? | 07:00 |
| kiko | cprov, sure. if it blows up it's your neck on the line anyway | 07:00 |
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| kiko | ;-) | 07:00 |
| kiko | seriously, it looks safe if pyflakes likes it | 07:00 |
| kiko | matthewrevell, time to start using Ubuntu? | 07:00 |
| cprov | kiko: ohh sh.. it's fine I have my *fire-fighting* kit :) | 07:00 |
| matthewrevell | kiko: Haha :) | 07:00 |
| matthewrevell | kiko: For some reason, the system reboots when I plug my iRiver into the mains. | 07:01 |
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| alefteris | for rosseta questions is this the right place? | 07:06 |
| salgado | alefteris, it sure is! :) | 07:07 |
| alefteris | ok for feisty where i should translate packages? | 07:08 |
| alefteris | for example i want to translate the latest version of muine in greek.. | 07:10 |
| alefteris | i get this https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/muine/+translations | 07:11 |
| salgado | alefteris, hmm, it looks like we need some help from carlos or danilos | 07:17 |
| danilos | alefteris: muine is a package from universe repository, and we don't support translating them yet | 07:18 |
| danilos | alefteris: for the moment, you'd want to work with upstream http://l10n.gnome.org/teams/el | 07:19 |
| alefteris | how about packages in main, like the new gnome games? | 07:20 |
| danilos | alefteris: feisty is otherwise not yet "open" for translation, but we're planning on opening it before the end of January | 07:21 |
| danilos | alefteris: for the moment, you can work on edgy translations, and they will be migrated to feisty once it is opened | 07:21 |
| alefteris | ok, are you gone make an announcment when it will be open for feisty? | 07:22 |
| alefteris | in the lists maybe? | 07:22 |
| danilos | alefteris: of course, it will be widely announced (ubuntu-translators, rosetta-users, it may probably hit planet.ubuntu.com as well) | 07:23 |
| alefteris | ok, thanks danilos | 07:23 |
| danilos | alefteris: no problem, I am happy to help | 07:24 |
| matthewrevell | matsubara: ping | 07:34 |
| matsubara | matthewrevell: pong | 07:35 |
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| mdke | danilos: got a moment? | 08:08 |
| danilos | mdke: sure | 08:08 |
| mdke | danilos: just wanted to seek your views in advance on something for feisty. ubuntu-docs has reorganised its source package structure significantly in this release cycle, we are now going to ship a lot of different much smaller documents... and I have been thinking about whether to ship one large pot template or several smaller ones. Do you have any views on this? | 08:09 |
| mdke | carlos: your views appreciated too ^ | 08:10 |
| mdke | here's the list of documents: https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos/trunk/ubuntu/C/ | 08:10 |
| mdke | also, will it be possible to import previous translations (Dapper, Edgy) on the same strings even though the template names have changed? | 08:10 |
| danilos | mdke: it's entirely up to you: it will be easier for translators to split work with several POTs, yet it will be easier for them to reuse boilerplate translations if they are in a single POT; in general, my suggestion would be multiple POTs | 08:11 |
| danilos | as for reusing existing translations, we'd need carlos input on that (he's mostly in charge of distro-to-distro migration) | 08:12 |
| mdke | okies | 08:12 |
| mdke | they'll get suggestions for boilerplate translations, I guess. (Assuming I've understood correctly what that word means) | 08:13 |
| danilos | mdke: yeah, that's right (well, "boilerplate translations" was to be "translations of boilerplate", or the texts coming up over and over again :) | 08:14 |
| mdke | nod | 08:14 |
| mdke | danilos: happy new year by the way, since I haven't bumped into you before in 2007 | 08:14 |
| danilos | mdke: English could certainly use a couple more declensions, though :P | 08:14 |
| mdke | heh | 08:15 |
| danilos | mdke: thanks, I wish you all the best in the new year as well :) | 08:15 |
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| kiko | hey jamesh? | 08:37 |
| kiko | matsubara, 2 AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'group' | 08:37 |
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| kiko | matsubara, does that appear related to your rosetta fix? it's on +translate | 08:37 |
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| matsubara | kiko: A OOPS id would be easier. | 08:38 |
| kiko | heh | 08:38 |
| kiko | OOPS-370A290 | 08:38 |
| Ubugtu | https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/370A290 | 08:38 |
| kiko | OOPS-372C102 | 08:38 |
| Ubugtu | https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/372C102 | 08:38 |
| kiko | wow, there are some pretty nasty URLs being hit | 08:39 |
| matsubara | kiko: you mean carlos' patch that I landed yesterday, right? Don't look related, but I'd need to investigate further to know for sure. Perhaps carlos could answer that more quickly | 08:45 |
| kiko | yeah | 08:46 |
| salgado | fwiw, _copyTranslation is removed on carlos' TranslationReview branch | 08:46 |
| kiko | matsubara, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+s%20%E2%80%A6%20+bug/66313 -- oooops | 08:46 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 66313 in kdepim "Calendar does not synch with palm device" [Unknown,Confirmed] | 08:46 |
| kiko | right, I remember that now | 08:47 |
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| matsubara | kiko: bummer, that one looks like a bug in the redirection code. I haven't reported it yet. | 08:58 |
| kiko | matsubara, somebody trying to @#!@# hack the URLs | 08:59 |
| salgado | cprov, you have a souyz-fixes branch on the general queue with a work-in-progress status. is it on the wrong section or with the wrong status? | 09:00 |
| cprov | salgado: wrong status, sorry I'll fix | 09:01 |
| salgado | I'll fix | 09:01 |
| salgado | I'm editing the page now | 09:01 |
| salgado | cprov, ^ | 09:01 |
| cprov | salgado: tks | 09:02 |
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| matsubara | kiko: aha! so somebody posted the URL here: http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=636951 (comment #4) and that forum seems to trim long urls like that. Weird! | 09:06 |
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| kiko | weird indeed | 09:11 |
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