[12:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78623 in mod-ruby (universe) "libapache2-mod-ruby is not installable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78623
[12:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78624 in totem (main) "totem-mozilla-viewer crashes on choosing "About"" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78624
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[01:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78625 in firefox (main) "crash on right click save as" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78625
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[01:06] <gnomefreak> what do we do with repo issues? like nz mirrors are down. do we reject bug or is there a way to file it on the mirror?
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[01:11] <dsas> I don't think the mirror operators read LP for things like that. they presumably have some kind of notification for their servers going down anywya.
[01:11] <dsas> gnomefreak: I think I just rejected them in the past.
[01:11] <gnomefreak> ok ty thats what i figured
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[01:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78626 in apache2 (main) "mod_auth_ldap doesn't support SSL" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78626
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[01:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78628 in Ubuntu "Graphics Corruption while building a pbuilder environment for feisty under edgy." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78628
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[02:09] <dub> what help is rejecting it?
[02:10] <dub> the nz mirror isnt down, its dropping connections from selected nz networks
[02:11] <dsas> dub: people who run the mirrors don't read LP as far as I know. You should get in touch with them to fix the problem, or the mirror needs dropping.
[02:11] <dub> I believe they know and are doing it intentionally
[02:12] <dsas> i'm not sure about how you'd go about that. by pinging one of the canonical sysadmins probably.
[02:12] <dsas> dub: What was the bug number?
[02:12] <dub> IMO its an ubuntu problem if its official mirrors behave strangely
[02:12] <dub> 78614
[02:13] <dub> politics adn peering aside, my grandmothers PC just stopped working
[02:14] <xeruno> dub, mine too... granmothers are like viruses :S
[02:14] <xeruno> (computer viruses) jejejeje
[02:14] <dsas> dub: A report on apt won't reach the right people though :)
[02:14] <xeruno> :P
[02:15] <dub> well thats teh application that is failing
[02:15] <dub> I'm trying to be the lusers advocate here
[02:16] <dsas> dub: I'm not trying to dismiss the problem, I'm trying to find out where it should be filed so the people who can do something about it do something about it.
[02:17] <DarkMageZ> the maintainer of apt will know where it needs to go and will push it in the right direction
[02:17] <lifeless> dsas: hi, this should be: filed as a support request, and raised in canonical-sysadmins, for the mirror admins to take the mirror out of rotation if its fucked
[02:17] <dub> To my mind it sits with whoever sanctions official mirrors
[02:17] <lifeless> apt maintainer has nothing to do with this
[02:17] <lifeless> dub: you are right
[02:17] <lifeless> dub: the process is 'support request' -> 'bug if there is a software fault', and theres no software fault here.
[02:18] <lifeless> dsas: the ubuntu mirros are not our servers, and while we do scan, being told theres a problem is faster.
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[02:19] <dsas> lifeless: Right. from a -bugs perspective a bug against apt was wrong, so that was rejected, I was just looking for the proper procedure, not hiding the problem.
[02:20] <lifeless> dsas: yup. Support request is the right entry point. from there, if its urgent [and it is] , seek escalation on #launchpad or #canonical-syadmins, depending on how authoritative you can be about the problem.
[02:20] <lifeless> starting with #launchpad is always a good bet.
[02:21] <dsas> ok, would you like me to file a support tracker or are you someone who can handle this from here on?
[02:21] <dsas> thanks for bzr btw.
[02:22] <lifeless> dsas: lol :). Please do document the problem as a support request
[02:22] <lifeless> as thoroughly as possible. I've started escalating this
[02:23] <dub> there are tcptraceroutes in the bug I filed, I'm happy to perform further troublshooting if required
[02:23] <lifeless> link the bug to the support request, that will do
[02:24] <lifeless> dub: you say that the mirror operators are doing it deliberately. Why ?
[02:24] <dub> disclaimer: I work for one of the two main networks they are rejecting
[02:25] <dub> essentially because the two 'teir 1' carriers in NZ depeered a couple of years ago
[02:25] <lifeless> I dont think its reasonable for them to be on DNS rotation and rejecting anyone, but thats me
[02:25] <dub> citylink maintain the peering exchanges
[02:26] <dub> they have been anycasting the mirror at the exchanges so that people who peered with them got direct access and those that didnt got the content from PAIX
[02:26] <dub> this stopped some time in the last 3-4 weeks
[02:27] <dsas> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ticket/3121
[02:27] <dsas> lifeless: Do I need to subscribe anyone?
[02:27] <dsas> oh, actually I can't do that in the support tracker anyway.
[02:28] <dub> well the anycast address is still reachable and the content available via FTP
[02:29] <dub> so its debatable as to whether its intentional or a config problem
[02:29] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78629 in kerry (universe) "missing /usr/bin/kerry" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78629
[02:29] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78631 in Ubuntu "Thinkpad T60 ACPI problem on amd64 arch" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78631
[02:30] <dsas> dub: you may want to include some/all of this info in https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ticket/3121 so it's referenceble in the future.
[02:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78633 in gnome-power-manager (main) "gnome-power-manager shouldn't be in Applications -> System Tools" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78633
[02:31] <dub> dsas, will it help? As I said, politics aside, its the end user that is paying the price
[02:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78632 in xorg-server (main) "autodetection of Xinerama when creating xorg.conf" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78632
[02:32] <dsas> dub: Sure, we do want to fix the problem. I'm sorry if I've made you think otherwise.
[02:32] <dub> Not at all, I understand now that the bug report was the wrong way to go about it
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[02:38] <ajmitch> dub: great, so the citylink peering issues have come up again?
[02:39] <dub> it looks that way
[02:40] <dub> I'm looking for the little page they put up about it
[02:40] <ajmitch> probably the same thing they had on their ftp servers awhile back
[02:40] <ajmitch> "too bad, so sad, complain to your ISP"
[02:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78634 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "usbdev4.1_ep00: PM: suspend 0->1, parent usb4 already 2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78634
[02:44] <lifeless> I've filed a rt request on this
[02:44] <lifeless> dub: can you put some of the history in teh support request - just cause you can act like a 'luser', doesn't mean tthat the extra info you have won't help in the situation being resolved faster :)
[02:45] <lifeless> #26423 in rt
[02:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77460 in launchpad-integration ""Translate This Application" in Firefox mistaken for translating the Web page" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77460
[02:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78635 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "kernel oops in cpufreq / kondemand" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78635
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[03:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78639 in pound (universe) "sample configuration file use old syntax" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78639
[03:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78640 in kdebase (main) "kdesu does not respect NOPASSWD from sudoers" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78640
[03:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78641 in Ubuntu "CD does not boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78641
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[03:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78642 in texlive-base (universe) "Missing element in texlive-pictures" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78642
[03:31] <Nafallo> time to sleep
[03:46] <dub> lifeless, url to rt?
[03:48] <dub> theres more info in a debian bug I raised back when it first became an issue, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=296807
[03:48] <Ubugtu> Debian bug 296807 in ftp.debian.org "ftp.debian.org: ftp.nz.debian.org inaccessable from majority of nz internet" [Grave,Closed] 
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[03:50] <dthacker> yuck!
[03:50] <dthacker> hehe
[03:50] <lifeless> dub: thats internal sorry, but its how I get hold of the sysadmins
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[04:42] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78643 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "I dont't know why" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78643
[04:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78644 in firefox (main) "Firefox crash and the apport command was using the 100% of the CPU" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78644
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[05:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78645 in Ubuntu "Installer crashed with 6.06 LTS for PC, simplified Chinese" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78645
[05:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78647 in dolphin (universe) "dolpin: desktop file installed twice" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78647
[05:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78648 in yakuake (universe) "merge with Debian version 2.7.5-4" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78648
[05:32] <dub> matt has made contact with citylink, apparently its a fault, they are working on it
[05:34] <dsas> dub: Sweet, that's good to hear. Hopefully it'll be resolved soon.
[05:38] <ajmitch> yep, it was just talked about in #ubuntu-nz earlier
[05:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78649 in openoffice.org (main) "Crashes on launch with "free(): invalid pointer"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78649
[05:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78650 in Ubuntu "can not install programs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78650
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[06:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78651 in Ubuntu "CPU stuck at 100% usage" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78651
[06:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78652 in ardour (universe) "inserting .wav as track, jack shutdown cause ardor was not fast enough" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78652
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[06:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78653 in websvn (universe) "please sync websvn 1.61-21 from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78653
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[06:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78654 in emacs-snapshot (universe) "emacs freezes, then crashes during auctex processing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78654
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[07:11] <Admiral_Chicago> Bug #2
[07:11] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, bot is lagging i think
[07:13] <Admiral_Chicago> oh thats because the bug doesn't exist, it would be nice to know that
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[07:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78655 in language-selector (main) ""Language support is not installed completely" alert needs wording fixes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78655
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[07:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78656 in Ubuntu "Problem with Update Manager" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78656
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[08:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78657 in eclipse (universe) "incorrect dependancies (0ubuntu1 not 3ubuntu1)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78657
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[08:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78658 in ekiga (main) "weblinks don't work in ekiga" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78658
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[08:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78659 in Ubuntu "ata2 io problems" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78659
[08:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78660 in gdm (main) "can't change GDM settings." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78660
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[08:59] <dholbach> good morning
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[09:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78661 in gtk2-engines (main) "Black themes/High Contrast Inverse theme Bugs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78661
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[09:27] <BugMaN> hi!
[09:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78662 in ecj-bootstrap (main) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78662
[09:47] <lifeless> dub: nz.archive.ubuntu.com should work now - its out of the rotation until its fixed
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[09:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78663 in sun-java6 (multiverse) "Some Java 6's bin require libstdc++.so.5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78663
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[09:57] <BugMaN> hi seb128!
[09:57] <seb128> Hi BugMaN
[09:58] <BugMaN> i found a bug in epiphany but epiphany don't use malone
[09:58] <seb128> open a bug on the epiphany-browser packager on launchpad or a bug on bugzilla.gnome.org
[09:59] <BugMaN> ok
[09:59] <seb128> what is the bug about?
[09:59] <BugMaN> crash
[10:00] <BugMaN> if you try to delete 2 or plus bookmarks epiphany crash
[10:00] <seb128> likely due to some plugin or firefox then :p
[10:00] <seb128> ah
[10:00] <seb128> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=351814
[10:00] <Ubugtu> Gnome bug 351814 in General "crash while deleting more than 1 bookmark in bm-editor" [Blocker,New] 
[10:00] <seb128> that one then
[10:00] <BugMaN> yes
[10:00] <seb128> it's already known, no need of a new bug :)
[10:01] <BugMaN> ok
[10:01] <BugMaN> :-)
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[10:19] <kgoetz> i filed http://launchpad.net/bugs/78657 about 50 min ago, and just realised its probably only a typo in the control file. can someone confirm that? i dont really want to force install the package if rebuilding it will work instead
[10:19] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 78657 in eclipse "incorrect dependancies (3ubuntu1 not 0ubuntu1)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
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[10:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78664 in ubiquity (main) "Kubuntu installer crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78664
[10:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78665 in gtk+2.0 (main) "FEISTY: libgtk2.0 upgrade broke things in gtk apps such as mousepad and gedit" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78665
[10:39] <somerville32> Ugh oh
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[10:54] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[10:54] <Admiral_Chicago> that will install the codecs necessary
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[11:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #76383 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "fglrx-driver behaves strange in 8.32.5, works fine in 8.28.8" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/76383
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[11:15] <kgoetz> actually, i'll ask the motu's
[11:15] <Admiral_Chicago> i think you mean buildclean
[11:15] <Admiral_Chicago> err autoclean
[11:15] <Admiral_Chicago> that's when a deb is made iirc.
[11:16] <Admiral_Chicago> !packagingguide
[11:16] <ubotu> The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources
[11:16] <Admiral_Chicago> kgoetz: take a look at that, hf gl
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[11:18] <Admiral_Chicago> I seems to remember seeing it in the guide, I looked at the guide a long time ago though
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[11:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78667 in Ubuntu "Edgy Memory troubles Edgy, Slow Performances, Soundcard not detected" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78667
[11:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78668 in Ubuntu "Unicode problem in the partition windows" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78668
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[12:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78670 in Ubuntu "Problem when changing opacity of taskbar" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78670
[12:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78671 in mesa (main) "Old version, upgrade needed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78671
[12:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71915 in update-manager "subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/71915
[12:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77528 in update-manager ""Size mismatch" error is unhelpful" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77528
[12:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63552 in update-manager "Update-manager is very invasive" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/63552
[12:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63609 in update-manager "missing python-vte causes upgrade failure" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/63609
[12:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69832 in update-manager "libghc6-hdbc-missingh-dev postinst fails" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/69832
[12:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71649 in update-manager "Message when system is up-to-date" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/71649
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[12:28] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78673 in update-manager (main) "edgy->fetisty dist-upgrade only works if ~/.gnupg file is there" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78673
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[12:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78674 in totem (main) "Totem crashes on watching .mov from Firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78674
[01:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78675 in wacom-tools (main) "wacom driver does not work and spams Xorg.0.log" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78675
[01:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78676 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashed when trying to close "image window"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78676
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[01:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78677 in gnome-panel (main) "invisible icons" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78677
[01:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78678 in gnome-panel (main) "clicking on gnome-invest changes keyboard indicator" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78678
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[01:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78679 in mono (main) "mono crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78679
[01:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78680 in avahi (main) "avahi's "enable_avahi" script does not turn on MDNS resolution" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78680
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[01:45] <chantra> 'lo
[02:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78681 in cupsys (main) "[PATCH]  CUPS's "enable_sharing" script incorrectly modifies cupsd.conf" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78681
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[02:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69085 in kde-systemsettings (main) "System Settings changes configuration files (makes fonts blurry) even without me applying any changes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/69085
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[02:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78682 in mp3gain (universe) "xargs: mp3gain: terminated by signal 11" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78682
[02:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69033 in hal (main) "nautilus-cd-burner does not recognise blank cd." [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/69033
[02:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78684 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "DRM doesn't load using Radeon 9700 running Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78684
[02:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78687 in firefox (main) "[Edgy]  Default font in Firefox too big" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78687
[02:42] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69160 in hal (main) "hal failed to initialize" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/69160
[02:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71558 in hwdb-client (main) "Gets stuck at video detection" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/71558
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[03:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78689 in gthumb (main) "error importing photos from a HP photosmart 812" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78689
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[03:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78690 in bluez-utils (main) "[Feisty]  bluez-utils update hangs on stopping bluetooth service" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78690
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[03:35] <bddebian> Boo
[03:39] <Nafallo> Baa!
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[03:44] <bddebian> Heh, heya Nafallo
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[03:53] <seb128> dholbach: what are all those upstream changes you are doing?
[03:53] <seb128> upstream task changes I mean
[03:53] <dholbach> our bug is closed already, and there's an empty upstream task
[03:53] <dholbach> i dunno how we got those, but i thought i'd clean up a bit
[03:53] <seb128> ah ok
[03:53] <seb128> do you have a list of those?
[03:54] <dholbach> i tried to find all new unconfirmed, undecided bugs we're subscribed to
[03:54] <dholbach> i ended up with a crazy list of bugs
[03:54] <seb128> ok
[03:55] <dholbach> i thought "malone might be malfunctioning, but why not just use the list i just got?" ;-)
[03:57] <seb128> dholbach: hehe, ok, I was just wondering if we had to update distro and upstream tasks by hand now
[03:57] <seb128> that looked like a step back
[03:57] <seb128> if that's just cleanup that's fine ;)
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[03:58] <seb128> good to see some bug triage action ;)
=== seb128 is doing some cleanup too
[04:03] <dholbach> yeah :-)
[04:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78693 in Ubuntu "Slow reboot sequence" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78693
[04:12] <dholbach> hahahaha, bug 30867 "..., but I am now testing Feisty, and.... oh my god !!!! Nautilus is displaying complete non sense, it's the end of the world..."
[04:12] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 30867 in nautilus "[Dapper]  nautilus shows drive labels instead of volume labels" [Low,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/30867
[04:12] <Hobbsee> dholbach: haha, nice
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[04:13] <Hobbsee> dholbach: to get libdvdcss2, do we prefer a script that wgets and installs it, or recommending an unofficial repo?
[04:14] <dholbach> no idea - it's both something that's out of our hands
[04:14] <dholbach> maybe installing a 'separate' package is better then activating a complete repository
[04:14] <dholbach> but ...  *shrug*
[04:14] <Hobbsee> dholbach: so, the solution is to ignore it, and hopes it goes away?
[04:15] <dholbach> i don't think that's a solution :)
[04:15] <Nafallo> Hobbsee: with the script added back people can do whatever :-)
[04:15] <dholbach> what does the doc team say in their guide?
[04:15] <Nafallo> dholbach: the script
[04:16] <Hobbsee> dholbach: doc team refers to teh script
[04:16] <Nafallo> atleast that's what the bug said :-P
[04:16] <Hobbsee> dholbach: debian said the script was a security risk, as it wgets to /tmp
[04:16] <Hobbsee> dholbach: and removed it, saying debian multimedia was the way to go
[04:17] <dholbach> oh... and debian multimedia ships it?
[04:17] <Nafallo> debian-unofficial do
[04:17] <Hobbsee> dholbach: i believe so.  or somewhere does
[04:17] <Nafallo> and I can merge with them and put it in my repo ;-)
[04:18] <dholbach> maybe mvo_ has an opinion
[04:18] <dholbach> he's master of 'common customizations'
[04:18] <dholbach> sorry mvo_
[04:19] <Hobbsee> mvo_: ping?
[04:21] <mvo_> Hobbsee: what was the context?
[04:21] <Hobbsee> mvo_: we synced from debian, as they got rid of the script, saying to get the package from debian-unofficial repo instead.  libdvdcss2, and libdvdread3
[04:21] <Hobbsee> ie, dvd playing
[04:22] <Hobbsee> which, i suspect your common customisations want to utilise, anyway
[04:22] <Hobbsee> (kaffeine needs to utilise it, + gnome proggys)
[04:23] <Hobbsee> mvo_: did you want to think on it, and ping me tomorrow?  i'd like to go to bed fairly soon (it's 2.23am)
[04:24] <Hobbsee> or query hobbsee|nothere with the info, or email me - hobbsee@u.c
[04:31] <mvo_> Hobbsee: ok, have a good night. I will have a look
[04:31] <Hobbsee> mvo_: thanks.  email's best, as i absolutely cant forget then :)
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[04:34] <Hobbsee> night all
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[04:37] <Ng> is there a procedure for debugging (suspected) acpi problems?
[04:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78694 in ubuntu-meta (main) "Macintosh PPC Beezy upgrade to Dapper fails " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78694
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[04:45] <dholbach> Ng: there's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingACPI
[04:45] <dholbach> Ng: but it's not that much
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[04:51] <Ng> dholbach: ta. trying to help someone debug a weird thing on an hp machine where his ps2 keyboard doesn't work (!)
[04:51] <dholbach> urg
[04:51] <dholbach> anything strange in  'dmesg' ?
[04:52] <Ng> I've just asked for the info listed on that page, and I'll ask for dmesg too
[04:52] <Ng> it's already in LP affecting some others, bug 45165
[04:52] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 45165 in linux-source-2.6.17 "Hewlett Packard xw4300 Workstation + USB Mouse BUG" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/45165
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[05:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78695 in firefox (main) "firefox uses inordinate amounts of CPU when idle" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78695
[05:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78696 in ubiquity (main) "installer crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78696
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[05:40] <Ng> dholbach: nothing about it looks strange to me, but I'm not exactly sure what I'd be expecting to be strange
[05:40] <Ng> I put it in a bug comment at least
[05:41] <dholbach> ok good
[05:41] <dholbach> I hope that mjg59 and BenC can figure it out
[05:42] <Ng> me too, thanks for the pointer :)
[05:42] <dholbach> de rien
[05:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78697 in gnome-media (main) "crash in g_type_class_meta_marshal" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78697
[05:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78698 in gnome-app-install (main) "help button does not work in gnome-app-install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78698
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[06:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78699 in matplotlib (universe) "python-matplotlib should depend on python-numpy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78699
[06:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78701 in dvdauthor (universe) "k9copy and dvdauthor" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78701
[06:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78702 in Ubuntu "[Edgy]  Command can't be run as root in the GUI" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78702
[06:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78703 in netbase (main) "/etc/services should contain zeroconf info" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78703
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[06:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78704 in camorama (universe) "camorama swaps red and blue channels" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78704
[06:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78705 in erlang (universe) "Program will not launch" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78705
[06:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78706 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "(Feisty) Disks incorrectly detected as USB/SCSI" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78706
[07:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78707 in Ubuntu "The installer crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78707
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[07:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78708 in gaim (main) "The Gaim close inespected. Logged was stoped!" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78708
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[07:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78709 in Ubuntu "System freeze at startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78709
[07:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78710 in eog (main) "slow Eye of GNOME start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78710
[07:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78711 in installation-guide (main) "preconfiguration manual" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78711
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[07:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78712 in vlc (universe) "crash when watching apple quicktime streaming" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78712
[07:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78713 in pypanel (universe) "pypanel is missing files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78713
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[07:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78714 in gnome-mag (main) "Please build gnome-mag with composite support" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78714
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[08:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78715 in firefox (main) "Firefox DOM Inspector installation fails on Edgy due to dependency error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78715
[08:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78716 in xserver-xgl (universe) "xserver-xgl  crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78716
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[08:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78717 in ubiquity (main) "installer crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78717
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[08:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78718 in xserver-kdrive (universe) "Xephyr don't handle the "alt car" key in ca_FR keymap" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78718
[08:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78719 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) ""Unread: -1" in thunderbird" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78719
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[08:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78720 in Ubuntu ""Copy Disc" burns audio disc as data dics" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78720
[08:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78721 in jabber (universe) "[Merge]  Jabber from debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78721
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[09:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78722 in ubiquity (main) "Feisty 20070110 -- Grub fails to list old kernel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78722
[09:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78723 in gaim (main) "Gain - crash - no apparent reason" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78723
[09:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78724 in armagetron (universe) "Armagetron crashes when start a Network Game" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78724
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[09:53] <Yawner> Howdy guys, can somebody take a look at this bug.. I am not 100% sure of what Gnome VFS is, I believe it is the file selection window.. If that is the case then I would like to mark the bug is fixed? Any Ideas?
[09:53] <Yawner> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozilla-thunderbird/+bug/36218
[09:53] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 36218 in mozilla-thunderbird "Thunderbird should be compiled with gnomevfs" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed] 
[09:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78725 in firefox (main) "firefox crashes opening webpage" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78725
[09:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78726 in hotkey-setup (main) "No intermediate brightness steps on Thinkpad (dup-of: 61184)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78726
[09:56] <dsas> Yawner: It's so you can save files to samba/ftp/etc shares.
[09:56] <dsas> Yawner: It's like extra backends to the file selector.
[09:57] <Yawner> hmm ok, I am guessing this is not present or is it?
[09:58] <dsas> Yawner: it's not implemented as far as I can see.
[09:59] <dsas> Yawner: I think it's implemented but not turned on rather. though i don't really know.
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[09:59] <Yawner> :)
[09:59] <Admiral_Chicago> there is a list too...
[09:59] <Admiral_Chicago> David may know as well
[10:00] <Yawner> Hmm ok, I will mark it as confirmed and see where it goes
[10:00] <Admiral_Chicago> sure. leave a comment too
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[10:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78727 in gaim (main) "crash sending a file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78727
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[10:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78730 in gnome-panel (main) "Crash of gnome-panel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78730
[10:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78729 in Ubuntu "Since last upgrade my xserver crash when i start a opengl app" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78729
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[10:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78732 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "madwifi-modules cause kernel-oops (feisty) (dup-of: 76294)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78732
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[11:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78733 in libgpod (main) "python-gpod has no python modules" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78733
[11:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78734 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "[rv280]  strange behaviour of xv and gl windows under aiglx (beryl)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78734
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[11:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78736 in kde-systemsettings (main) "systemsettings starts making noises" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78736
[11:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78735 in alsa-utils (main) "Crash doing "asoundconf unset-pulseaudio"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78735
[11:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78737 in pstoedit (universe) "pstoedit not compiled with svg output enabled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78737
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[11:55] <crimsun> argh
[11:55] <crimsun> I hate brown paper bag paste bugs
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[12:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78738 in ia32-libs-openoffice.org (main) "ia32-libs-openoffice.org_17_amd64 is broken (wrong libgnutls version)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78738
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