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| evand | cjwatson, any tips for detecting what partitions will still exist when partman commits? There doesn't seem to be a debconf question associated with it and my hunch is I'll have to look in /var/lib/partman/devices. | 08:05 |
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| cjwatson | evand: your hunch is more or less correct | 08:11 |
| evand | ok, thank you | 08:12 |
| cjwatson | evand: as long as parted_server is running (should be, if you're running after partitioning), 'from ubiquity.parted_server import PartedServer; parted = PartedServer(); parted.select_disk(blah); partitions = parted.partitions()' | 08:12 |
| cjwatson | or words to that effect | 08:12 |
| cjwatson | you'll have to iterate over parted.disks() yourself | 08:13 |
| evand | neat. Ok, I'll see what I can come up with. | 08:13 |
| evand | Also, the latest commit(s) on my branch has handling multiple errors in one pass working. Just wanted to give you a heads up. | 08:14 |
| cjwatson | excellent | 08:14 |
| evand | it's kind of hacky though. I had to modify ma-ask to accommodate it, but I played around with a few other options and this seems to be the cleanest and the only one that works 100%. | 08:15 |
| lifeless | cjwatson: the changes needed for debians' casper are to change the /cdrom to /live_media, to reflect that it may not be a cdrom | 08:19 |
| lifeless | cjwatson: that, or to reject that part of the debian casper changes | 08:19 |
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| dabaR | I am trying to netboot install ubuntu on my ppc powerbook. I am using dnsmasq and tftpd-hpa. My tftpd-hpa is started standalone by running "/usr/sbin/in.tftpd -l -v -v -v -v -v -s /tftpboot -a 192.168.0.1:69", my dnsmasq.conf has the following line: "dhcp-boot=yaboot,dabar,192.168.0.1". The contents of my /tftpboot are same as http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/powerpc/netboot/. I | 08:30 |
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| cjwatson | lifeless: IMO that should be rejected; ubiquity uses code from d-i that assumes /cdrom | 09:51 |
| cjwatson | dabaR: you were cut off after ".../netboot/. I"; IRC has a line length limit | 09:52 |
| lifeless | cjwatson: fair enough. However, I'll let you and mithrandir have that discussion | 09:52 |
| lifeless | cjwatson: I'm not advocating any specific approach, just that we dont break things :) | 09:53 |
| dabaR | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1024/ | 09:54 |
| tepsipakki | dabaR: try /var/log/daemon | 09:56 |
| cjwatson | personally I generally just strace the freaking tftpd to work out what it thinks it's doing | 09:58 |
| cjwatson | I've found that to be the quickest approach in practice | 09:58 |
| dabaR | k, I will try later. Thanks. | 09:58 |
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| secureboot | how do I set the language and keyboard layout for edgy in the preseed OR on the append line in isolinux.cfg? | 03:48 |
| cjwatson | see the installation guide, linked from http://help.ubuntu.com/ | 04:00 |
| cjwatson | preseeding advice is in an appendix | 04:00 |
| secureboot | cjwatson: yeah, that doesn't answer it correctly, I don't think | 04:09 |
| secureboot | https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/preseed-contents.html lists a debian edgy example preseed that doesn't work | 04:09 |
| secureboot | 404ed | 04:09 |
| secureboot | i dont' see links on those pages to submit either modifications or bugs | 04:09 |
| secureboot | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/apcs01.html | 04:09 |
| secureboot | that's the appendix example I find | 04:09 |
| secureboot | but it's for breezy | 04:09 |
| secureboot | so not terribly surprising that it doesn't work for language choosing | 04:10 |
| thom | cjwatson: is there any way to blacklist modules from the installer? i absolutely don't want to load usb_storage | 04:23 |
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| cjwatson | secureboot: debian-installer/locale should work - you just need to put it on the kernel command line | 04:44 |
| cjwatson | "The locale can be used to specify both language and country. To specify the locale as a boot parameter, use locale=en_US" | 04:45 |
| cjwatson | does that not work? | 04:45 |
| cjwatson | hmm, yeah, http://www.debian.org/releases/edgy/example-preseed.txt is obviously a broken link | 04:46 |
| secureboot | cjwatson: no - i still get asked for my language | 04:46 |
| cjwatson | you can file bugs on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug with 'installation-guide' as the source package | 04:47 |
| secureboot | i'm trying debian-installer/locale and just locale | 04:47 |
| secureboot | of course, both are listed as working - i wonder which it is supposed to be | 04:47 |
| cjwatson | they're aliases, either should work | 04:47 |
| secureboot | cjwatson: hmmm - i thought it was working before. I never got the keyboard map to work without intervention, but the language part was working in the past, i thought | 04:47 |
| cjwatson | locale= is what our CD boot loader uses, so that really should work | 04:48 |
| cjwatson | given that we test it ... | 04:48 |
| cjwatson | keyboard has changed between releases; we test that via the CD boot loader, too | 04:48 |
| cjwatson | console-setup/layoutcode= (and usually console-setup/variantcode= as well) is correct for edgy | 04:48 |
| cjwatson | perhaps try locale=en_US.UTF-8 rather than plain en_US? | 04:49 |
| secureboot | hmmm - why is that necessary sometimes? | 04:49 |
| cjwatson | but IIRC gfxboot just passes en_US | 04:49 |
| cjwatson | localechooser's locale parsing is a bit ad-hoc in places | 04:49 |
| cjwatson | the correct locale name is en_US.UTF-8 | 04:49 |
| cjwatson | strictly speaking en_US is a different (legacy, non-UTF-8) locale | 04:50 |
| secureboot | append file=/cdrom/preseed/shamon.seed debian-installer/locale=en_US initrd=/install/initrd.gz ramdisk_size=16384 root=/dev/ram rw quiet -- | 04:54 |
| secureboot | that is simply not working | 04:54 |
| secureboot | and i'm baffled | 04:55 |
| secureboot | i keep getting asked what my language is - this should eliminate that, no? | 04:56 |
| secureboot | any ideas? | 04:57 |
| thom | bah. looks like blacklist went in this month. suck. second question, then. will debian-installer/probe/usb=false disable usb always, or just during initial boot? | 05:05 |
| thom | ok, usb=false suboptimal | 05:26 |
| cjwatson | blacklist> right, unless you're lucky and /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist is honoured, but IIRC not guaranteeably | 05:37 |
| cjwatson | AFAIK debian-installer/probe/usb=false only affects usb-discover | 05:38 |
| cjwatson | (i.e. initial boot) | 05:38 |
| cjwatson | TBH I'd just hack the initrd to remove usb-storage | 05:38 |
| secureboot | figured it out! I had a bad timeoutline in the isolinux.cfg, and I guess that messed up the boot parameters | 05:39 |
| cjwatson | that's surreal - I confess I wouldn't have thought of that | 05:40 |
| thom | cjwatson: hrm, good call | 05:42 |
| thom | ah, it's not in the initrd; must be in a udeb, so i guess i have to try and blacklist it in early_command | 05:57 |
| thom | (i really don't want a custom d-i build if i can avoid it) | 05:57 |
| cjwatson | what sort of install is this? CD, netboot, ...? | 06:28 |
| thom | netboot | 06:29 |
| cjwatson | net-retriever doesn't natively support exclusions, but if you can convince something to 'echo usb-storage-modules-2.6.17-10-386-di > /var/cache/anna/exclude' (or whatever the exact package name is) before anna runs then that would work | 06:31 |
| cjwatson | s/would/should/ | 06:31 |
| cjwatson | unfortunately early_command runs after anna, IIRC | 06:31 |
| cjwatson | actually, no | 06:32 |
| cjwatson | I think preseed/early_command should work for this | 06:32 |
| thom | oh really? that seems a good deal better | 06:33 |
| tepsipakki | just like I could run 'udpkg --unpack' for my own udeb in early_command, and the templates got registered and all :) | 06:34 |
| tepsipakki | pretty neat | 06:36 |
| thom | cjwatson: worked beautifully, ta | 06:47 |
| thom | i must write my beer tracking webapp | 06:47 |
| cjwatson | excellent | 06:47 |
| tepsipakki | I have a keg waiting, where do I send it :P | 06:48 |
| thom | right, sun x4100s now being flawlessly auto installed. time to go :-) | 07:10 |
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| secureboot | i'd like to simply install ubuntu-minimal, plus a small list of packages - how can I do this? Right now, I'm just looking in the Packages in dists/blahblah/debian-installer/Packages to make sure I don't delete any of those | 08:46 |
| secureboot | but the install is failing, from not having update-rc.d | 08:46 |
| secureboot | is there any way I can see a list of pacakges I absolutely need? | 08:46 |
| secureboot | i don't see a businesscard CD anywhere, that might make a good start | 08:49 |
| cjwatson | what debootstrap installs is the minimum you need | 08:56 |
| cjwatson | which is basically ubuntu-minimal, but you may be resolving some alternate dependencies the wrong way or something | 08:56 |
| secureboot | i just want to know what packages I need to install on the CD for the default install to work | 08:57 |
| secureboot | ubuntu-minimal is missing a lot of stuff, in its direct list - how can I get everything ubuntu-minimal depends on , and everything those things depend on, and so forth? | 08:57 |
| cjwatson | debootstrap expands that out. | 09:01 |
| cjwatson | alternatively, the germinate output | 09:02 |
| cjwatson | http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/germinate-output/feisty/minimal | 09:02 |
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| heno | Has anyone else observed this bug #78722 ? | 09:19 |
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| heno | cjwatson: is this normal behaviour from the grub-installer? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/78722 | 09:43 |
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