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jendaatoponce: ping12:19
atoponcejenda: yo12:19
jendagood... ;)12:19
jendaI was wondering if you're here.12:19
jendaWaiting for your membership approval...12:19
atoponcei wouldn't miss it for anything...  12:19
atoponcethx. i appreciate it12:20
jenda...because I'm falling asleep ;)12:20
atoponceyeah. it's long today, isn't it?12:21
jendaindeed :)12:24
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atoponcejenda: and the clock ticks...12:49
atoponce 12:49
jendaindeed :)12:52
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jendaeek12:57
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atoponcejenda: thx01:02
jendanp01:03
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MitchMJenda; would you be up for cheering for me if i applied for membership?01:15
MitchMMainly for my hosting work for devubuntu01:15
MitchMand ubuntucounter.org etc.01:16
jendaMitchM: oh definitely.01:17
MitchMjenda; awesome :) -- I may have to start gearing towards membership01:18
MitchMGet good ol' Joey Stanford to root for me also01:18
somerville32MitchM: Have you ever helped out with UWN?01:19
MitchMsomerville32, Did a a little work around #25 or so; nothing noticeable.01:19
MitchMsomerville32, If there is some work I can jump in on -- that would be great :)01:19
jendaMitchM: that would make me even happier vouching for you :)01:19
MitchMjenda, hehe; well guess I'm elected to start working on the UWn01:20
MitchMI can even host a seperate gobby server on devubuntu.com if needed.01:20
MitchManything to do for 28?01:20
jendaEverything.01:21
jenda:)01:21
MitchMhaha.01:21
jendaI gotta sleep.01:21
jendaAt least a bit.01:21
somerville32MitchM: We got a good gobby server now01:21
somerville32However, writers are always needed01:21
MitchM_finally_ :P01:21
MitchMI do dable in "english" everynow and again...01:22
MitchMif there are a couple topics to choose from I could get started tonight01:22
somerville32There are in-line comments01:23
MitchMaffirm01:23
MitchMcould you e-mail me the gobby info?01:23
MitchMmitch (at) kci.net01:23
somerville32We edit in the wiki01:24
MitchMI'm still at work -- and will soon be departing from home01:24
MitchMah - gotcha.01:24
somerville32We only move to Gobby when more then one person wants to work on it at a time01:24
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MitchMs/nosd/nods/01:24
MitchMSo it article choice free-reign?01:26
somerville32Yup01:27
MitchM*nods head* looks easy enough -- I'll definetly jump in on #28 and help out.01:32
somerville32Awesome01:33
=== atoponce looks forward to helping out with uwn
atoponceand anything else, really01:53
somerville32:)01:53
somerville32Welcome atoponce :)01:54
atoponcesomerville32: thx!  01:54
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somerville32poningru, sure :)07:52
poningruhehe07:57
poningruworking on getting my gobby backup07:57
somerville32juliux server is working well07:58
poningruoh08:02
poningrucool08:02
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juliuxmorning08:53
somerville32Good Morning! :D08:55
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jendamorning11:58
jendaAlthough I don't see what's so good about it...11:58
juliuxmorning jenda 11:58
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xipietotechahaha, exercise is for quitters!11:59
jendahehe12:00
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poningrujenda: frack that12:42
poningrujust go running12:42
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atoponcerunning is for wimps. swimming is the workout for men!  03:43
jendaI hate swimming.03:43
atoponcei  swimming03:44
atoponcenothing better03:44
jendaDrinking is.03:46
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atoponceso is sex.  03:53
jendahehe03:58
jendaNow you're positively contradicting yourself.03:58
jenda;)03:58
poningruatoponce: swimming is quite hard to do at 4C03:59
poningruany lower its actually good03:59
poningrubut here in fl the winter months temprature hangs around 4c03:59
atoponce4 isn't bad. stay in the water too long, though, and you're likely to catch something...04:00
jenda4 is the temperature at which the body will float best in the water ;)04:00
jendabecause the water is the heaviest at that temp.04:01
atoponceyeah. stay in it too long, and your body certainly will start floating...  04:02
poningrulol04:02
MitchMgood one.04:02
poningruthe bad thing is though that water is just the temperature of the atmo04:03
poningruif the atmo goes lower water doesnt catchup04:03
poningruso for you its actually 'warm'04:03
poningruatleast couple of feet below surface04:03
atoponcei swim indoors, at the gym, and they keep the pool a tad too warm04:04
poningru...04:05
atoponceusually, it's around 70f04:05
atoponceafter a few laps, i feel like i'm swimming in a hot tub04:05
MitchMsnowboarding is the workout for real men.04:07
crimsunwhatever. irc is the real workout.04:07
MitchMfor thr minf04:07
MitchMmind04:07
MitchMnot the body04:07
MitchM:-)04:07
poningruno way man04:09
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FunnyLookinHatMitchM sent me.06:31
jendahey, FunnyLookinHat06:32
FunnyLookinHathowdy  : )06:32
jendawhere did he send you to? ;)06:32
FunnyLookinHatTo here of course  : )06:32
FunnyLookinHatI have to run for now, but I'll have a few questions for you all when I get back  : )06:34
jenda06:34
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juliuxhi all06:41
juliuxjenda, pls no forum for the marketing team, i don't like it if i have to poll(forum), push(mailinglist) is much better06:43
jendajuliux: did you read my email06:44
jenda?06:44
juliuxjenda, sure06:44
jendawe could set up a bridge06:44
juliuxi am not a friend of this bridges06:44
jendaSo that you only need to read one of the media.06:44
jendaDo you use ubuntu-users ML?06:44
juliuxnormaly a bridge make it easier to destroy the message tree06:45
jendaeasier, perhaps, but the reasoning to open up a forum is still valid.06:46
jendathe MT needs more attention from the wider community.06:46
jendaAnd it's been working for ubuntu-users.06:47
juliuxwhy?06:47
jendaWhy?06:47
jendaWhy we need attention?06:47
jendaBecause we lack workforce.06:47
juliuxbevor you search for more community contribution, make a plan what work could be done in the next weeks/month06:47
jendaAnd keeping in touch is always good.06:47
jendagah06:47
jendajuliux: I believe I tons of available work in my own project, not to mention the UWN which constantly needs help - and it never hurts to have more ideas.06:53
jendathe fact is that mailing lists don't allow people to casually stumble upon them and watch the conversation. The tiny inconveniences of a bridge (probably negligeable) are by far outweighed by the benefit more eyes will bring.06:54
juliuxjenda, i know, but i think it is more effective if you have a list of work and then search for people who can do the work, i am a go example if you didn't asked me personal i would never join the marketing team;)06:55
jendaI have different experience.06:56
juliuxthat is my experiences with the expo team in germany;)06:56
juliuxevery new member needs a mentor for the first 2-3 month06:57
jendaWhenever I asked particular people to do something for me, they found they couldn't fit it in their schedule. The most productive people came them selves.06:57
jendayes @ mentor06:57
jendathat doesn't seem to relate to keeping ourselves hidden on a mailing list.06:57
juliuxa mailinglist isn't hidden06:58
juliuxwe have a public mailinglist archive everybody can join the mailinglist06:58
juliuxjenda, sorry i have to leave for dinner06:59
jendaLaters.06:59
jendajuliux: opinion noted.06:59
juliuxthxs06:59
atoponcejenda: help07:35
juliuxre07:37
atoponcefreenode crap07:37
atoponce 07:37
jendaatoponce: at your service.07:41
jendaConcept not understood.07:41
jendaFreenode is perfect.07:41
jendaI suggest inspecting user.07:42
jenda;)07:42
atoponce:)07:42
atoponceit's *always* user error, but i wouldn't expect freenode to be perfect... 07:42
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juliuxhi willvdl 08:35
willvdlHi08:35
jendahello08:36
willvdljuliux that mail finally got sent (1mb file :| )08:40
juliuxwillvdl, thxs08:40
juliuxwillvdl, i also have a public ftp server fr *ubuntu stuff08:40
juliuxs/fr/for08:40
willvdlyeah, I ran out out of time unfortunately...08:41
willvdlemail was the quickest I had. We should start adding things like this to traditional ubuntu-marketing resources08:41
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juliuxwillvdl, i will take with some people in germany who makes the german ubuntu leaflet perhaps we can desing a nice edubuntu one08:45
juliuxwillvdl, i personal don't like a leaflet in din a 408:45
willvdlyeah but we needed to go with an existing template tht Canonical used08:45
willvdlso that we could get 1000 copies made for BETT08:46
juliuxahh08:47
juliuxgreat08:47
willvdlcbx33 drafted that in record time :)08:47
juliuxperhaps we should talk with riched and jono if we can make a news version which will also be sponsored08:48
willvdlYip. am already on it08:48
willvdlWe want a whole range of materials for all level of edubuntu users08:48
juliuxgreat08:49
juliuxi am sure we will translate it to german;)08:49
juliuxand we will produced a german version08:49
willvdlexcellent08:51
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DivineOmeganoobs09:05
tsmithehi09:07
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jendaSpam-a-lamma-ding-dong: http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Command_Line09:09
tsmithehi jenda09:09
jendahello :)09:11
tsmithethats not funny - even in an automockingly (hmmm whats the real word for this?) kind of way...09:12
jendaI find it funny.09:16
willvdlI swear by uncyclopedia09:25
tsmithehmm09:31
somerville32jenda: ping09:42
jendasomerville32: pong09:43
somerville32jenda: We need to write Heard 209:43
somerville32jenda: When are you going to send me the pw for the ml? :)09:43
jendasomerville32: ah, as soon as I ask Jane to add you :)09:43
jendaI was hoping I'd add more people, if they volunteered, so I wouldn't have to request it several times.09:44
jendasomerville32: email and LP account link, please?09:44
somerville32cody-somerville@ubuntu.com09:45
somerville32http://launchpad.net/~cody-somerville09:45
jendanow, say hello to ubuntulog ;)09:45
somerville32Hello ubuntulog!09:46
jenda09:47
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juliuxsomerville32, which gobby server are you using for uwn at the moment?10:05
somerville32Yours10:06
juliuxok10:06
BHSPitMonkeywhat all is gobby used for?10:06
BHSPitMonkeyI thought it was just like, collaborative text ed or something10:07
somerville32It is10:07
BHSPitMonkeyk10:07
somerville32It is only used when we edit the UWN collaboratively10:07
BHSPitMonkeyah.10:07
BHSPitMonkeyI hear it mentioned a bit elsewhee10:07
BHSPitMonkey                                     r?10:07
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bethkoSo what is going on what the gobby server?10:09
somerville32What do you mean?10:10
bethkothe topic says to ask about it10:11
somerville32oh, hehe10:11
juliuxgn8 all10:12
somerville32jenda: Jan seems to be around10:16
jendahuh? who? where?10:17
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beunosomerville32, ping10:44
somerville32pong10:44
beunoall good?10:45
somerville32Whats all good? lol10:47
beuno:/ direct translations from spanish don't always work well10:48
beunohow are you?10:48
somerville32I'm good. Thanks :)10:48
somerville32s/good/well10:48
beunowas wondering if you needed help with the herd2 thingi10:49
beunoe10:49
somerville32I do, I do10:50
somerville32lets hop onto gobby10:50
beunoalready there10:50
somerville32I've never done this before so it'll be a learning experience for both of us10:51
beunoheh, great10:51
somerville32elkbuntu, ping10:52
elkbuntusomerville32, pong, but busy10:53
somerville32elkbuntu, Please login to gobby when you get a chance. :)10:53
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elkbuntuim not going to have time for another 7 hours10:54
beunoelkbuntu: I'd like to catch a few minutes a your attention some day10:55
somerville32I wonder how I'm going to manage to write this when I don't even use Ubuntu10:59
somerville32lol10:59
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beunoheh10:59
beunowell10:59
beunoif you can help me digg up info10:59
beunoI can write10:59
somerville32Just refer to the old UWNs11:01
somerville32lol11:01
somerville32They have all the feisty changes11:02
somerville32Plus look at the specifications on launchpad11:02
beunosomething about the mailing lists was said also11:02
somerville32Yup11:02
beunothe problem is knowing what's in herd2 that wasn't in herd111:02
somerville32That would be a good place to check too11:02
somerville32I would refer to the UWNS11:03
somerville32All the work is alrighty now pretty much11:03
somerville32Just find interesting paragraphs11:03
somerville32Expand on them11:03
somerville32Attach some images11:03
somerville32And tada!11:03
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somerville32crimsun: ping. Will you come help write Herd 2? I gotta run.11:30
crimsungobby.uc?11:33
somerville32ubuntu.juliux.de 652311:34
beunowell11:45
beunoI'm out of ideas11:45
beunoand if you're leaving cody, then maybe we should just dump this to the wiki11:45
beunoso anyone else can pitch in11:45
beuno*moved*11:54
somerville32https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn/Herd211:58
beunoI goto run in 10 too11:59
beunoso that's what I could come up with11:59
beunoI'll try and take another shot it at in a while11:59
beuno"at it"12:00
MitchMjenda: Can you access diy.devubuntu.com ?12:02
tsmithei can... but then i'm not jenda12:02
jendaMitchM: yep12:02
jendaboth, http and ftp12:02
MitchMhmm -- stupid firewall :P12:02
MitchMyeah -- something is funky with my test router12:03
MitchM:-P12:03
MitchMthanks for checking :)12:03
MitchMlolers -- looks like someone at my work tried accessing my server12:05
MitchMand my server doesnt like that :)12:05
MitchMblocked my companies WAN ip12:05
MitchM:-P12:05

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