[12:19] <jenda> atoponce: ping
[12:19] <atoponce> jenda: yo
[12:19] <jenda> good... ;)
[12:19] <jenda> I was wondering if you're here.
[12:19] <jenda> Waiting for your membership approval...
[12:19] <atoponce> i wouldn't miss it for anything...  
[12:20] <atoponce> thx. i appreciate it
[12:20] <jenda> ...because I'm falling asleep ;)
[12:21] <atoponce> yeah. it's long today, isn't it?
[12:24] <jenda> indeed :)
[12:49] <atoponce> jenda: and the clock ticks...
[12:49] <atoponce>  
[12:52] <jenda> indeed :)
[12:57] <jenda> eek
[01:02] <atoponce> jenda: thx
[01:03] <jenda> np
[01:15] <MitchM> Jenda; would you be up for cheering for me if i applied for membership?
[01:15] <MitchM> Mainly for my hosting work for devubuntu
[01:16] <MitchM> and ubuntucounter.org etc.
[01:17] <jenda> MitchM: oh definitely.
[01:18] <MitchM> jenda; awesome :) -- I may have to start gearing towards membership
[01:18] <MitchM> Get good ol' Joey Stanford to root for me also
[01:19] <somerville32> MitchM: Have you ever helped out with UWN?
[01:19] <MitchM> somerville32, Did a a little work around #25 or so; nothing noticeable.
[01:19] <MitchM> somerville32, If there is some work I can jump in on -- that would be great :)
[01:19] <jenda> MitchM: that would make me even happier vouching for you :)
[01:20] <MitchM> jenda, hehe; well guess I'm elected to start working on the UWn
[01:20] <MitchM> I can even host a seperate gobby server on devubuntu.com if needed.
[01:20] <MitchM> anything to do for 28?
[01:21] <jenda> Everything.
[01:21] <jenda> :)
[01:21] <MitchM> haha.
[01:21] <jenda> I gotta sleep.
[01:21] <jenda> At least a bit.
[01:21] <somerville32> MitchM: We got a good gobby server now
[01:21] <somerville32> However, writers are always needed
[01:21] <MitchM> _finally_ :P
[01:22] <MitchM> I do dable in "english" everynow and again...
[01:22] <MitchM> if there are a couple topics to choose from I could get started tonight
[01:23] <somerville32> There are in-line comments
[01:23] <MitchM> affirm
[01:23] <MitchM> could you e-mail me the gobby info?
[01:23] <MitchM> mitch (at) kci.net
[01:24] <somerville32> We edit in the wiki
[01:24] <MitchM> I'm still at work -- and will soon be departing from home
[01:24] <MitchM> ah - gotcha.
[01:24] <somerville32> We only move to Gobby when more then one person wants to work on it at a time
[01:24] <MitchM> s/nosd/nods/
[01:26] <MitchM> So it article choice free-reign?
[01:27] <somerville32> Yup
[01:32] <MitchM> *nods head* looks easy enough -- I'll definetly jump in on #28 and help out.
[01:33] <somerville32> Awesome
[01:53] <atoponce> and anything else, really
[01:53] <somerville32> :)
[01:54] <somerville32> Welcome atoponce :)
[01:54] <atoponce> somerville32: thx!  
[07:52] <somerville32> poningru, sure :)
[07:57] <poningru> hehe
[07:57] <poningru> working on getting my gobby backup
[07:58] <somerville32> juliux server is working well
[08:02] <poningru> oh
[08:02] <poningru> cool
[08:53] <juliux> morning
[08:55] <somerville32> Good Morning! :D
[11:58] <jenda> morning
[11:58] <jenda> Although I don't see what's so good about it...
[11:58] <juliux> morning jenda 
[11:59] <xipietotec> hahaha, exercise is for quitters!
[12:00] <jenda> hehe
[12:42] <poningru> jenda: frack that
[12:42] <poningru> just go running
[03:43] <atoponce> running is for wimps. swimming is the workout for men!  
[03:43] <jenda> I hate swimming.
[03:44] <atoponce> i  swimming
[03:44] <atoponce> nothing better
[03:46] <jenda> Drinking is.
[03:53] <atoponce> so is sex.  
[03:58] <jenda> hehe
[03:58] <jenda> Now you're positively contradicting yourself.
[03:58] <jenda> ;)
[03:59] <poningru> atoponce: swimming is quite hard to do at 4C
[03:59] <poningru> any lower its actually good
[03:59] <poningru> but here in fl the winter months temprature hangs around 4c
[04:00] <atoponce> 4 isn't bad. stay in the water too long, though, and you're likely to catch something...
[04:00] <jenda> 4 is the temperature at which the body will float best in the water ;)
[04:01] <jenda> because the water is the heaviest at that temp.
[04:02] <atoponce> yeah. stay in it too long, and your body certainly will start floating...  
[04:02] <poningru> lol
[04:02] <MitchM> good one.
[04:03] <poningru> the bad thing is though that water is just the temperature of the atmo
[04:03] <poningru> if the atmo goes lower water doesnt catchup
[04:03] <poningru> so for you its actually 'warm'
[04:03] <poningru> atleast couple of feet below surface
[04:04] <atoponce> i swim indoors, at the gym, and they keep the pool a tad too warm
[04:05] <poningru> ...
[04:05] <atoponce> usually, it's around 70f
[04:05] <atoponce> after a few laps, i feel like i'm swimming in a hot tub
[04:07] <MitchM> snowboarding is the workout for real men.
[04:07] <crimsun> whatever. irc is the real workout.
[04:07] <MitchM> for thr minf
[04:07] <MitchM> mind
[04:07] <MitchM> not the body
[04:07] <MitchM> :-)
[04:09] <poningru> no way man
[06:31] <FunnyLookinHat> MitchM sent me.
[06:32] <jenda> hey, FunnyLookinHat
[06:32] <FunnyLookinHat> howdy  : )
[06:32] <jenda> where did he send you to? ;)
[06:32] <FunnyLookinHat> To here of course  : )
[06:34] <FunnyLookinHat> I have to run for now, but I'll have a few questions for you all when I get back  : )
[06:34] <jenda> 
[06:41] <juliux> hi all
[06:43] <juliux> jenda, pls no forum for the marketing team, i don't like it if i have to poll(forum), push(mailinglist) is much better
[06:44] <jenda> juliux: did you read my email
[06:44] <jenda> ?
[06:44] <juliux> jenda, sure
[06:44] <jenda> we could set up a bridge
[06:44] <juliux> i am not a friend of this bridges
[06:44] <jenda> So that you only need to read one of the media.
[06:44] <jenda> Do you use ubuntu-users ML?
[06:45] <juliux> normaly a bridge make it easier to destroy the message tree
[06:46] <jenda> easier, perhaps, but the reasoning to open up a forum is still valid.
[06:46] <jenda> the MT needs more attention from the wider community.
[06:47] <jenda> And it's been working for ubuntu-users.
[06:47] <juliux> why?
[06:47] <jenda> Why?
[06:47] <jenda> Why we need attention?
[06:47] <jenda> Because we lack workforce.
[06:47] <juliux> bevor you search for more community contribution, make a plan what work could be done in the next weeks/month
[06:47] <jenda> And keeping in touch is always good.
[06:47] <jenda> gah
[06:53] <jenda> juliux: I believe I tons of available work in my own project, not to mention the UWN which constantly needs help - and it never hurts to have more ideas.
[06:54] <jenda> the fact is that mailing lists don't allow people to casually stumble upon them and watch the conversation. The tiny inconveniences of a bridge (probably negligeable) are by far outweighed by the benefit more eyes will bring.
[06:55] <juliux> jenda, i know, but i think it is more effective if you have a list of work and then search for people who can do the work, i am a go example if you didn't asked me personal i would never join the marketing team;)
[06:56] <jenda> I have different experience.
[06:56] <juliux> that is my experiences with the expo team in germany;)
[06:57] <juliux> every new member needs a mentor for the first 2-3 month
[06:57] <jenda> Whenever I asked particular people to do something for me, they found they couldn't fit it in their schedule. The most productive people came them selves.
[06:57] <jenda> yes @ mentor
[06:57] <jenda> that doesn't seem to relate to keeping ourselves hidden on a mailing list.
[06:58] <juliux> a mailinglist isn't hidden
[06:58] <juliux> we have a public mailinglist archive everybody can join the mailinglist
[06:59] <juliux> jenda, sorry i have to leave for dinner
[06:59] <jenda> Laters.
[06:59] <jenda> juliux: opinion noted.
[06:59] <juliux> thxs
[07:35] <atoponce> jenda: help
[07:37] <juliux> re
[07:37] <atoponce> freenode crap
[07:37] <atoponce>  
[07:41] <jenda> atoponce: at your service.
[07:41] <jenda> Concept not understood.
[07:41] <jenda> Freenode is perfect.
[07:42] <jenda> I suggest inspecting user.
[07:42] <jenda> ;)
[07:42] <atoponce> :)
[07:42] <atoponce> it's *always* user error, but i wouldn't expect freenode to be perfect... 
[08:35] <juliux> hi willvdl 
[08:35] <willvdl> Hi
[08:36] <jenda> hello
[08:40] <willvdl> juliux that mail finally got sent (1mb file :| )
[08:40] <juliux> willvdl, thxs
[08:40] <juliux> willvdl, i also have a public ftp server fr *ubuntu stuff
[08:40] <juliux> s/fr/for
[08:41] <willvdl> yeah, I ran out out of time unfortunately...
[08:41] <willvdl> email was the quickest I had. We should start adding things like this to traditional ubuntu-marketing resources
[08:45] <juliux> willvdl, i will take with some people in germany who makes the german ubuntu leaflet perhaps we can desing a nice edubuntu one
[08:45] <juliux> willvdl, i personal don't like a leaflet in din a 4
[08:45] <willvdl> yeah but we needed to go with an existing template tht Canonical used
[08:46] <willvdl> so that we could get 1000 copies made for BETT
[08:47] <juliux> ahh
[08:47] <juliux> great
[08:47] <willvdl> cbx33 drafted that in record time :)
[08:48] <juliux> perhaps we should talk with riched and jono if we can make a news version which will also be sponsored
[08:48] <willvdl> Yip. am already on it
[08:48] <willvdl> We want a whole range of materials for all level of edubuntu users
[08:49] <juliux> great
[08:49] <juliux> i am sure we will translate it to german;)
[08:49] <juliux> and we will produced a german version
[08:51] <willvdl> excellent
[09:05] <DivineOmega> noobs
[09:07] <tsmithe> hi
[09:09] <jenda> Spam-a-lamma-ding-dong: http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Command_Line
[09:09] <tsmithe> hi jenda
[09:11] <jenda> hello :)
[09:12] <tsmithe> thats not funny - even in an automockingly (hmmm whats the real word for this?) kind of way...
[09:16] <jenda> I find it funny.
[09:25] <willvdl> I swear by uncyclopedia
[09:31] <tsmithe> hmm
[09:42] <somerville32> jenda: ping
[09:43] <jenda> somerville32: pong
[09:43] <somerville32> jenda: We need to write Heard 2
[09:43] <somerville32> jenda: When are you going to send me the pw for the ml? :)
[09:43] <jenda> somerville32: ah, as soon as I ask Jane to add you :)
[09:44] <jenda> I was hoping I'd add more people, if they volunteered, so I wouldn't have to request it several times.
[09:44] <jenda> somerville32: email and LP account link, please?
[09:45] <somerville32> cody-somerville@ubuntu.com
[09:45] <somerville32> http://launchpad.net/~cody-somerville
[09:45] <jenda> now, say hello to ubuntulog ;)
[09:46] <somerville32> Hello ubuntulog!
[09:47] <jenda> 
[10:05] <juliux> somerville32, which gobby server are you using for uwn at the moment?
[10:06] <somerville32> Yours
[10:06] <juliux> ok
[10:06] <BHSPitMonkey> what all is gobby used for?
[10:07] <BHSPitMonkey> I thought it was just like, collaborative text ed or something
[10:07] <somerville32> It is
[10:07] <BHSPitMonkey> k
[10:07] <somerville32> It is only used when we edit the UWN collaboratively
[10:07] <BHSPitMonkey> ah.
[10:07] <BHSPitMonkey> I hear it mentioned a bit elsewhee
[10:07] <BHSPitMonkey>                                      r?
[10:09] <bethko> So what is going on what the gobby server?
[10:10] <somerville32> What do you mean?
[10:11] <bethko> the topic says to ask about it
[10:11] <somerville32> oh, hehe
[10:12] <juliux> gn8 all
[10:16] <somerville32> jenda: Jan seems to be around
[10:17] <jenda> huh? who? where?
[10:44] <beuno> somerville32, ping
[10:44] <somerville32> pong
[10:45] <beuno> all good?
[10:47] <somerville32> Whats all good? lol
[10:48] <beuno> :/ direct translations from spanish don't always work well
[10:48] <beuno> how are you?
[10:48] <somerville32> I'm good. Thanks :)
[10:48] <somerville32> s/good/well
[10:49] <beuno> was wondering if you needed help with the herd2 thingi
[10:49] <beuno> e
[10:50] <somerville32> I do, I do
[10:50] <somerville32> lets hop onto gobby
[10:50] <beuno> already there
[10:51] <somerville32> I've never done this before so it'll be a learning experience for both of us
[10:51] <beuno> heh, great
[10:52] <somerville32> elkbuntu, ping
[10:53] <elkbuntu> somerville32, pong, but busy
[10:53] <somerville32> elkbuntu, Please login to gobby when you get a chance. :)
[10:54] <elkbuntu> im not going to have time for another 7 hours
[10:55] <beuno> elkbuntu: I'd like to catch a few minutes a your attention some day
[10:59] <somerville32> I wonder how I'm going to manage to write this when I don't even use Ubuntu
[10:59] <somerville32> lol
[10:59] <beuno> heh
[10:59] <beuno> well
[10:59] <beuno> if you can help me digg up info
[10:59] <beuno> I can write
[11:01] <somerville32> Just refer to the old UWNs
[11:01] <somerville32> lol
[11:02] <somerville32> They have all the feisty changes
[11:02] <somerville32> Plus look at the specifications on launchpad
[11:02] <beuno> something about the mailing lists was said also
[11:02] <somerville32> Yup
[11:02] <beuno> the problem is knowing what's in herd2 that wasn't in herd1
[11:02] <somerville32> That would be a good place to check too
[11:03] <somerville32> I would refer to the UWNS
[11:03] <somerville32> All the work is alrighty now pretty much
[11:03] <somerville32> Just find interesting paragraphs
[11:03] <somerville32> Expand on them
[11:03] <somerville32> Attach some images
[11:03] <somerville32> And tada!
[11:30] <somerville32> crimsun: ping. Will you come help write Herd 2? I gotta run.
[11:33] <crimsun> gobby.uc?
[11:34] <somerville32> ubuntu.juliux.de 6523
[11:45] <beuno> well
[11:45] <beuno> I'm out of ideas
[11:45] <beuno> and if you're leaving cody, then maybe we should just dump this to the wiki
[11:45] <beuno> so anyone else can pitch in
[11:54] <beuno> *moved*
[11:58] <somerville32> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn/Herd2
[11:59] <beuno> I goto run in 10 too
[11:59] <beuno> so that's what I could come up with
[11:59] <beuno> I'll try and take another shot it at in a while
[12:00] <beuno> "at it"
[12:02] <MitchM> jenda: Can you access diy.devubuntu.com ?
[12:02] <tsmithe> i can... but then i'm not jenda
[12:02] <jenda> MitchM: yep
[12:02] <jenda> both, http and ftp
[12:02] <MitchM> hmm -- stupid firewall :P
[12:03] <MitchM> yeah -- something is funky with my test router
[12:03] <MitchM> :-P
[12:03] <MitchM> thanks for checking :)
[12:05] <MitchM> lolers -- looks like someone at my work tried accessing my server
[12:05] <MitchM> and my server doesnt like that :)
[12:05] <MitchM> blocked my companies WAN ip
[12:05] <MitchM> :-P