| lucasvo | hm, ok just rebooting my server... | 12:25 |
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| lucasvo | hope it works | 12:25 |
| lucasvo | ... | 12:25 |
| lionel | :) | 12:25 |
| lucasvo | doesn't look good | 12:28 |
| lucasvo | I guess I have to hook up my display again | 12:29 |
| === okaratas iyi geceler.. | ||
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| [miles] | morning | 09:41 |
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| apremoli | ciao | 11:09 |
| apremoli | Sono nuovo e sto cercando di capire come funziona IRC | 11:10 |
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| firecrotch | I'm purchasing a dedicated web hosting account, and I can get any distro installed. Since I'm familiar with Ubuntu, should I go with Ubuntu Server? | 11:14 |
| [miles] | hola apremoli | 11:16 |
| [miles] | firecrotch, nice.. any distro eh | 11:17 |
| [miles] | firecrotch, what u want to do with the box exactly? | 11:17 |
| firecrotch | It will primarily be a server for a set of message boards, as well as some multimedia content | 11:18 |
| apremoli | Hola miles | 11:18 |
| [miles] | apremoli, hablas espaol? | 11:18 |
| apremoli | No only Italian or English | 11:19 |
| [miles] | firecrotch, well.. I'll briefly tell u my story | 11:19 |
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-server:fabbione] : Ubuntu Server *development* discussion | general support -> #ubuntu | ||
| [miles] | apremoli, ah ok.. sorry, I speak English and Spanish, but not Italian, but I can understand it | 11:19 |
| [miles] | firecrotch, I've used SuSE for a long long time... and for servers, their SLES range | 11:20 |
| [miles] | firecrotch, this is the first time I've setup a server using Ubuntu Server... | 11:20 |
| [miles] | firecrotch, I'm happy with it actually | 11:20 |
| [miles] | firecrotch, the one thing I trust implicitly about SUSE's SLES products, is their updates | 11:20 |
| firecrotch | miles, I was thinking that it would be a good choice, since I am familiar with Ubuntu, and the fact that it is built from Debian | 11:21 |
| [miles] | firecrotch, and if you've used SUSE, and know YaST2, well, it's one hell of a damn tool... | 11:21 |
| firecrotch | I only used SUSE for a little while | 11:21 |
| [miles] | firecrotch, as a rule, I *only* used SUSE for servers.. | 11:21 |
| [miles] | this is the first time I've broken that rule | 11:22 |
| firecrotch | Are you happy that you broke your rule? | 11:22 |
| [miles] | firecrotch, yes, and no | 11:22 |
| [miles] | firecrotch, the issue to me is *always* security updates, and how timely and stable they are | 11:22 |
| [miles] | firecrotch, I wont lie, I have more faith in the updates from SUSE that Ubuntu... | 11:22 |
| [miles] | firecrotch, but that is only due to my experience with SUSE for many years | 11:23 |
| [miles] | firecrotch, I can't say hand on heart, "Yeah, Ubuntu Servers updates are rock solid, timely, well tested, etc" | 11:23 |
| [miles] | firecrotch, but I would say exactly the same regarding CentOS also | 11:23 |
| [miles] | firecrotch, also, SLES 10 for example, is not expensive at all | 11:24 |
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| firecrotch | I should mention that I have issues with SUSE/Novell | 11:24 |
| [miles] | welcome skar | 11:24 |
| [miles] | firecrotch, what exactly? | 11:25 |
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| skar | hi miles | 11:25 |
| firecrotch | deep seated religious-like issues with the fact that Novell has anything to do with Microsoft | 11:25 |
| firecrotch | :P | 11:25 |
| skar | any package of sqlgrey available?!! | 11:25 |
| [miles] | firecrotch, ok, thats more political than technical tho | 11:26 |
| firecrotch | Heh, yeah. | 11:27 |
| [miles] | firecrotch, I've worked with SUSE for 7 years | 11:27 |
| [miles] | firecrotch, I've seen it change a lot | 11:27 |
| [miles] | firecrotch, fragment | 11:27 |
| [miles] | firecrotch, etc | 11:27 |
| [miles] | firecrotch, just gotta role with it | 11:27 |
| [miles] | firecrotch, it's a damn fine distro for enterprise solutions, and it kicks the shit out of RHEL | 11:27 |
| [miles] | skar, lets have a look | 11:28 |
| [miles] | skar, http://sqlgrey.sourceforge.net/ | 11:28 |
| [miles] | skar, of that yeah? | 11:28 |
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| skar | m$ bought suse's friendship or something like that, nothing bad there for us users | 11:28 |
| skar | no big corp can be against users for so long | 11:29 |
| firecrotch | miles, so what I'm basically hearing is that you're most inclined towards SUSE because you're more familiar with it? | 11:29 |
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| [miles] | firecrotch, better to say it has my trust | 11:29 |
| [miles] | firecrotch, I can move freely between distros without problem | 11:29 |
| firecrotch | Gotcha. | 11:30 |
| [miles] | firecrotch, security..security...security | 11:30 |
| firecrotch | Ubuntu (with it's Debian base :) ) has my trust | 11:30 |
| [miles] | firecrotch, I just trust their patching | 11:30 |
| skar | miles: yup already using sqlgrey in gentoo for my devel system, but for server ubuntu et al seem better but no deb for the best greylisting server :( | 11:30 |
| [miles] | skar, sudo aptitude show postgrey | 11:30 |
| [miles] | skar, that package is with ubuntu | 11:31 |
| [miles] | skar, that any use to u? | 11:31 |
| skar | yup but postgrey is too primitive and poor on features | 11:32 |
| [miles] | ok | 11:32 |
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| [miles] | mmm, can u compile from source? | 11:32 |
| [miles] | and build your own .deb if required? | 11:32 |
| firecrotch | miles, thanks a lot for your input | 11:34 |
| [miles] | firecrotch, please don't think I'm knocking Ubuntu Server, cos' im not | 11:35 |
| [miles] | firecrotch, just to me, time will tell | 11:35 |
| [miles] | firecrotch, I believe it's in it's infancy | 11:36 |
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| skar | miles: yes thats the option other than source install(its perl anyway) | 11:41 |
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| lucasvo | hm, can someone help me with XEN? | 01:23 |
| === [miles] runs | ||
| lucasvo | [miles] : well I haven't even been able to boot my xen kernel | 01:26 |
| [miles] | lucasvo, sorry, I have noooo idea | 01:26 |
| [miles] | one sec, I have a mate who does Xen in Ubuntu... | 01:26 |
| [miles] | let me see if I can get him to join | 01:26 |
| [miles] | lucasvo, he's a bit busy atm, but he'll join shortly | 01:29 |
| lucasvo | ty | 01:30 |
| lucasvo | current status: reboots after it tries to load the kernel... :( | 01:31 |
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| lucasvo | thefish: you know xen? | 01:36 |
| thefish | lucasvo: a little, what do you need to know? | 01:36 |
| lucasvo | well I want to install it on edgy :) | 01:36 |
| thefish | ok cool | 01:36 |
| thefish | ive never done that, but i cant imagine its too tough | 01:36 |
| thefish | you need to run a xen kernel | 01:36 |
| thefish | so you will need to build your own | 01:37 |
| thefish | ps, whoever decided that #ubuntu-server should be about development might want to think again | 01:37 |
| === thefish tries to stay polite | ||
| thefish | #ubuntu-development may have been a slightly more intelligent choice | 01:37 |
| thefish | with #ubuntu-server doing what it says on the tin, serving as a place to discuss and get help for ubuntu SERVER | 01:38 |
| thefish | ffs | 01:38 |
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| thefish | lucasvo: now thats over with, if you find a howto for dapper it should work | 01:39 |
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| thefish | you basically need to: get zen patches against a certain kernel -> download that kernel -> patch it -> configure it with xen support -> build it -> boot it | 01:40 |
| thefish | you can use the same kernel for guests and the host | 01:40 |
| lucasvo | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XenVirtualMachine/XenOnUbuntuEdgy | 01:41 |
| lucasvo | this doesn't seem to work for me | 01:42 |
| lucasvo | and it is outdated | 01:42 |
| thefish | aah ok, so theres a xen kernel in universe | 01:42 |
| thefish | lucasvo: where do you get stuck? | 01:43 |
| thefish | if you get stuck on boot, check the path to your /boot | 01:44 |
| lucasvo | thefish: the path is correct | 01:44 |
| thefish | you may need just /xen-3.0-i386.gz etc | 01:45 |
| lucasvo | it can load the modules but hten it reboots without warning | 01:45 |
| thefish | so where are you getting stuck? can you boot dom0? | 01:45 |
| lucasvo | no | 01:45 |
| thefish | ah | 01:45 |
| lucasvo | I can't boot | 01:45 |
| lucasvo | but grub can load the modules | 01:45 |
| thefish | make sure you have root= correct as well | 01:46 |
| thefish | sorry lucasvo i need to go, may be back in a bit - try joining #xen maybe? | 01:47 |
| thefish | seeya | 01:47 |
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| J_P | hi all | 01:49 |
| J_P | people, is possible install apache2_mod_python and apache2_mod_php one same server ? | 01:49 |
| [miles] | guys, I'm getting this error: | 01:52 |
| [miles] | [21577] dbg: ldap: loading Net::LDAP and URI | 01:53 |
| [miles] | [21577] error: Can't locate Encode/ConfigLocal.pm in @INC (@INC contains: lib ../lib /usr/share/perl5 /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.7 /usr/local/share/pe | 01:53 |
| [miles] | rl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl) at /usr/lib/perl/5.8/Encode.pm line 52. | 01:53 |
| [miles] | any ideas what package im missing? | 01:53 |
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| skar | uuencode?!? | 02:59 |
| [miles] | back | 03:03 |
| [miles] | skar, dunno | 03:04 |
| skar | hmm try installing Encode | 03:08 |
| skar | thats what it says | 03:08 |
| [miles] | http://use.perl.org/~TeeJay/journal/22506 | 03:09 |
| [miles] | did that | 03:09 |
| [miles] | now, no errors | 03:09 |
| [miles] | ;) | 03:09 |
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| drarem | is it really necessary for all these forums to make you type in some code you can barely read to authenticate you are a human and then fill out a registration email to say you are who you say you are just to be able to post a dumb reply to a dumb message? | 03:53 |
| [miles] | yes | 03:57 |
| [miles] | totally | 03:57 |
| [miles] | justified | 03:57 |
| [miles] | ;) | 03:57 |
| drarem | some of those things are hard to read - I want to slap the webmaster and make him read a text in that | 04:01 |
| drarem | textbook | 04:01 |
| drarem | /rant | 04:02 |
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| levander` | I've got some empty test database in my MySQL 5.0 server. Is this something the install scripts put there for a purpose, or did I just put it in there? | 04:31 |
| levander` | Do you guys have a test database in your server? | 04:31 |
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| drarem | i think it puts a sample database in there | 04:44 |
| drarem | what's the database name | 04:45 |
| mralphabet | drarem: the users suffer a slight inconvenience or the users suffer a forum full of spam posts . . . your pick | 04:51 |
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| J_P | hey all, anyone here has installed with sucess (subversion + trac + ssl) and (DotProject) on ubuntu ? | 05:14 |
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| J_P | anyone use SVN or DotProject on Ubuntu ? | 05:30 |
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| CarlFK | [ 137.878574] cs4232-pnpbios: probe of 01:01.00 failed with error -2 | 09:33 |
| CarlFK | [ 137.878674] CS4232 soundcard not found or device busy | 09:33 |
| CarlFK | why is -server doing anything with sound cards? | 09:33 |
| tmh__ | why wouldn't it be? why would the modules be removed from -server? is there some problem with it using your sound card? | 09:37 |
| CarlFK | space, and what ever other advantages server has over desktop | 09:44 |
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