[12:01] <mnoir> hou5ton: also places -> search for files
[12:01] <mnoir> hou5ton: make sure you learn how locate works or you will be disappointed when it doesn't find things you just installed
[12:02] <thecat> !samba
[12:02] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:03] <mnoir> hou5ton: if you use locate a lot you will want to learn how to pipe through grep
[12:03] <BULLE> is there some way of installing older libc and libc++ etc in edgy eft, so i can run dapper binaries ?
[12:03] <brianski> oh wow
[12:03] <BlueLaguna> !swat
[12:03] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:03] <BULLE> eg, like the *compat* packages in centos/fedora
[12:03] <BlueLaguna> wtf is SWAT?
[12:03] <brianski> it's a known bug that xen on edgy/ubuntu crashes with two domU's
[12:03] <brianski> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xen-source-2.6.17/+bug/71348
[12:04] <BULLE> BlueLaguna: web interface for samba configuration
[12:04] <ikonia> brianski what do you want us to do about it
[12:04] <mwe> BULLE: mixing packages from different releases might cause other problems.
[12:04] <brianski> ikonia: i was just providing that info for cafuego
[12:04] <ikonia> mwe you just don't do it
[12:04] <ikonia> brianski I thought you where asking about it - the channels moving too fast - sorry
[12:05] <mwe> BULLE: that's kinda what I was suggesting ;)
[12:05] <brianski> ikonia: lucky for you, i accept apologies in cash or money order :)
[12:05] <BULLE> mwe: ye, i was just hoping there would be compat packages, as per other linux distributions, as i want to run nxclient, and there are no edgy eft binaries available for it, and for some a bit unclear reason freenx isnt included in edgy eft either
[12:05] <ikonia> brianski you can have moth filled wallets
[12:06] <ikonia> BULLE thats the price of bleeding edge
[12:06] <mwe> BULLE: I see
[12:06] <mnoir> BULLE: so can you just build it for 6.10?
[12:06] <BULLE> ikonia: for some very old version of bleeding edge
[12:06] <ikonia> bleeding edge distro
[12:06] <Mikey> ok, im crying for help, i dont knwo what wrong with my wifi card
[12:06] <BULLE> ikonia: i dont have that much of a choice, as i need 2.6.17 to get sound and nic support
[12:07] <BULLE> Mikey: what driver are you trying to use ?
[12:07] <Apeiron> heya :) i have this little question.. i try to install "libglu1-mesa-dev", but i get the error msg: libglu1-mesa-dev depends on: libglu1-mesa (=6.5.1~20060817-0ubuntu3), but 6.5.1+cvs20060824 will be installed. i dont get the error msg, would be glad if someone could help me out :)
[12:07] <BULLE> Mikey: and what hardware is it, and what is it you are having problems with
[12:07] <Valentine> I've got a 'can't even make it to browse the 6.10 desktop cd' problem :s
[12:07] <ikonia> Apeiron what ubuntu version
[12:07] <Mikey> BULLE: im trying to use RT2500 on a open network (for now)
[12:08] <Apeiron> ikonia, just updated from dapper to edgy
[12:08] <Valentine> all I get is corrupted graphics, both in normal and graphics safe mode
[12:08] <BULLE> Mikey: okies, was some time since i used my rt2500 based pci card, but it should be pretty darn easy
[12:08] <BULLE> Mikey: get hold of kernel module and utilities
[12:08] <BULLE> Mikey: load module, put interface up
[12:08] <ikonia> Apeiron that message doesn't make sense - are you sure its accureate
[12:08] <Mikey> BULLE: having problems with configuring, im confused where the settings should go
[12:08] <BULLE> Mikey: run the gui config tool
[12:08] <BULLE> Mikey: create a profile, save it
[12:09] <Mikey> BULLE: yea all done, and oh no gui for me :(
[12:09] <BULLE> Mikey: and then you are set
[12:09] <Apeiron> ikonia, i translated it from german to english as good as i can.. hm, the german version doesnt make sense to me either.
[12:09] <ikonia> Mikey why are you using the gui
[12:09] <BULLE> Mikey: last time i used the rt2500 driver, the gui was realy the sane option
[12:09] <ikonia> Apeiron sorry - hard to work outs whats going on in the translation
[12:09] <BULLE> Mikey: the other alternative was to create the config file via vim in binary mode, and a single space in the wrong place made it go boooooom
[12:09] <ikonia> Mikey that should read why are you NOT using the gui
[12:09] <Mikey> BULLE: i havent installed gui, and yes ive loaded the driver that works
[12:09] <Apeiron> ikonia, is there any way to switch the language from synaptic?
[12:09] <ikonia> Mikey install the gui
[12:09] <ikonia> Apeiron not a clue
[12:10] <BULLE> Mikey: so install the gui then
[12:10] <mnoir> Apeiron: any help in the #ubuntu-de channel ?
[12:10] <Apeiron> mnoir, k, ill try.
[12:10] <mnoir> Apeiron: the problem is most packages may not have other language documentation
[12:11] <Mikey> BULLE: gui later. Im editing file /etc/network/interface
[12:11] <mnoir> so synaptic would still display alot of english
[12:11] <Apeiron> mnoir well, but that error is from dpkg/synaptic/whatever...
[12:11] <ikonia> Mikey don't be "cool" install the gui - you've struggled all night
[12:11] <Apeiron> mnoir, hm, maybe the translation isnt good...
[12:11] <ikonia> you openly admit you don't know whats going on, make it easy install the gui
[12:11] <Valentine> so, any noob help?
[12:11] <mnoir> Apeiron: dunno - i am spoiled speaking english :)
[12:12] <BULLE> Mikey: unless the rt2500 driver have been heavily rewritten since last time i used it, that wont work
[12:12] <Apeiron> mnoir, wait, ill try if apt outputs in english
[12:12] <BULLE> Mikey: it relies on a custom config file
[12:12] <Mikey> ikonia: gui crashed on a bit, during install
[12:12] <ikonia> Mikey re-install
[12:12] <mwe> Apeiron: exporting LANG and LANGUAGE might be sufficient to change lange
[12:12] <BULLE> the gui is flaky
[12:12] <BULLE> it does segfault occasionaly
[12:12] <mwe> Apeiron: language
[12:12] <ikonia> BULLE arn't they all
[12:12] <BULLE> but its the only darn thing there is
[12:12] <BULLE> ikonia: this is more then usual =)
[12:12] <Mikey> BULLE: argh no, if i reistall then it wont tettect ra0, ive reinstalled many times now
[12:12] <mwe> Apeiron: well you know what I mean ;)
[12:12] <lucasvo> hm, I have problems wiht my packagemanagement
[12:12] <Mikey> dettect*
[12:13] <lucasvo> dpkg: error processing courier-authdaemon (--install): cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[12:13] <ikonia> Mikey your system sounds pretty screwy
[12:13] <BULLE> Mikey: just compile the gui app then ?
[12:13] <dxdt> has anyone install ROOT before?  Is there a package in apt or a package for download somewhere
[12:13] <Tenric> Hey, does Edgy support Airlink wireless cards?
[12:13] <BULLE> Mikey: you dont have to install it, just compile the binary
[12:13] <Apeiron> mwe, k, just wait a bit
[12:13] <BULLE> Mikey: and run it
[12:13] <cas3> !foo
[12:13] <ubotu> foo is barr
[12:13] <naxo> hi guys, this is so great... i have just installed xubuntu few days ago (been using RedHat some time ago) and I discovered something that surprises me a lot - a great community behind UBUNTU project, it is great to see friendly openminded people sharing the knowledge... thanks a lot to all of you contributing to this great effort
[12:13] <jewbilee> tenric: probably not nicely
[12:13] <cas3> lol
[12:13] <lucasvo> dxdt: you mean root, the superuser?
[12:13] <dxdt> lucasvo, no
[12:13] <rogue780> when I run azureus I get the following message: DEBUG::Tue Jan 09 18:12:33 EST 2007  Data Missing /home/shawn/Battlestar.Galactica.S03E07.DSR.XviD-ORENJi. can someone help me?
[12:13] <Apeiron> mnoir, mwe well, apt-get tells me its already the newest version. weird.
[12:14] <lucasvo> someone can help me to manually remove a package?
[12:14] <mwe> Apeiron: what is sorry? I think I missed something
[12:14] <dxdt> lucasvo, ROOT  as in http://root.cern.ch for doing high physics calculations
[12:14] <hou5ton> MAN ... would it be too much to ask to just have a double pane file manager running as root???  :-|
[12:14] <Valentine> hmmmm, I'm just trying to get to the point where booting to the cd gives me something mkore than crap garbled graphics....
[12:14] <Mikey> BULLE: ok, brb
[12:14] <mwe> lucasvo: please elaborate
[12:14] <n2diy> hou5ton: that would be mc, midnight commander.
[12:15] <hou5ton> n2diy:   ok ... ok ... i'll really go get it this time
[12:15] <lucasvo> mwe: well I have this broken package which I tried to purge, didn't work, I tried to install it, and now it doesn't find the archive anymore
[12:15] <mwe> lucasvo: ah. editing the cache after making a backup has worked for me
[12:15] <dv_> hi
[12:16] <dv_> any ideas why the ubuntu reps *still* have the 8774 drivers and not the 9xxx ones?
[12:16] <dv_> I mean, its already a couple of months old..
[12:16] <lucasvo> mwe: what should I edit? can you point me to a file?
[12:16] <mwe> lucasvo: yeah.
[12:17] <mnoir> hou5ton: the gui version is gnome commander
[12:17] <tirus89> h3xis, you here?
[12:17] <hou5ton> mnoir:   ooops ... i'm currently installing mc
[12:17] <mwe> lucasvo: create a backup of /var/lib/dpkg/status. then remove the entry for the package in the file. then remove any files it left
[12:17] <hou5ton> mnoir:   I'll see what it looks like
[12:17] <Apeiron> ok, i changed the locale, and here is the original output: The following packages have unmet dependencies. libqt3-mt-dev: Depends: libglu1-mesa-dev but it is not going to be installed or libglu-dev
[12:17] <mnoir> hou5ton: that's ok - the terminal is good for you - real men use terminal
[12:17] <mcphail> dv_: apps in the ubuntu repos generally only get security fixes.
[12:18] <mwe> lucasvo: that will make APT think it was never installed
[12:18] <tirus89> does anyone have a bootable cd low-level formatting program
[12:18] <Apeiron> so anyone know what that "but is not going to be installed or..." means, or why it shows up?
[12:19] <dv_> mcphail, so no chance to get 9xxx ones in dapper ever?
[12:19] <dv_> very, very bad.
[12:19] <lucasvo> mwe: thanks
[12:19] <m12> any ideas why a printer that is hooked up to my router doesn't appear on the network?  I have another printer which DOES, but this one doesn't.  But it works with windows.
[12:19] <mwe> lucasvo: do you understand?
[12:19] <ghatak> I have D-Link router, is there a trick to send all traffic on a cerntian port to a certain port on my system which is also connected to that D-Link router via another port
[12:19] <UbuntuInstaller> Help!
[12:19] <UbuntuInstaller> I went to a page someone gave me to install ubuntu from my hard drive.
[12:20] <UbuntuInstaller> It told me that when I would restart it would open the grub menu.
[12:20] <lucasvo> mwe: yes!
[12:20] <UbuntuInstaller> (I had done all the required steps.)
[12:20] <mwe> lucasvo: great ;)
[12:20] <lucasvo> I think it worked
[12:20] <lucasvo> thanks
[12:20] <Tenric> can someone recommend a wireless card that is well-supported with Ubuntu and won't be too much trouble to set up?
[12:20] <UbuntuInstaller> So I finally decided to make it boot into the grub menu as default.
[12:20] <blekos> is there any way to rip dvd in ubuntu, any prog?
[12:20] <UbuntuInstaller> Well, it turns out my path isn't correct and it won't lemme change it.
[12:20] <blekos> smg like dvdshrink etc
[12:21] <UbuntuInstaller> I can't figure out how to open back into Windows XP Home.  Does anyone know how?
[12:21] <cas3> I use some cisco wireless card tenric
[12:21] <UbuntuInstaller> Or can someone help me by looking on there Windows XP Home?
[12:21] <cas3> I've also used lucient waveman gold
[12:21] <Tenric> cas3: was it pretty easy to get it to work?
[12:22] <cas3> Tenric: it was all plug and play, put the card in and it hotplugged
[12:22] <Tenric> cool
[12:22] <Tenric> which one would you recommend?
[12:22] <cas3> *shrug*
[12:22] <Tenric> ok, which is cheaper?
[12:23] <cas3> waveman for sure
[12:23] <Tenric> ok
[12:23] <cas3> but it's not very good for wardriving and such
[12:23] <Tenric> that's cool
[12:23] <Tenric> just need it for general purpose
[12:24] <cas3> cool cool
[12:24] <Tenric> it's not even me; I was telling a friend about Ubuntu and he has an old Dell notebook
[12:24] <tirus89> does anyone have a low-level drive formatter that can boot on a cd???
[12:24] <Tenric> he wants to know what card to geet
[12:24] <naxo> Does anyone have an idea how to set up special function keys on Sony VAIO PCG-K215B running Xubuntu 6.10 - the keys for LCD brightness and volume control do not work obviously. If there is no way, then how can I change the brightness and contrast of display on the system (software) level - any aplication? It runs on ATI integrated 3d card. Any help appreciated. Thanks.
[12:24] <Tenric> *get
[12:24] <mike__> Tenric
[12:24] <mike__> Have him get an intel
[12:25] <mike__> It's highly compatible.
[12:25] <Tenric> ok
[12:25] <mwe> naxo: I don't know if it's the best option but I think xbindkeys might work
[12:25] <Tenric> plug-and-play?
[12:25] <[BTF] Chm0d> evening guys could someone give me a hand with fstab?
[12:26] <cas3> um more like push and play
[12:26] <naxo> thanks mwe, anybody else have any idea?
[12:26] <Tenric> well, okay, yeah.
[12:26] <Tenric> what do you mean by push?
[12:26] <cas3> ya have to push the card into the laptop (instead of plugging)
[12:26] <n2diy> naxo, loadkeys might be useful.
[12:26] <Tenric> well, right.
[12:27] <mwe> loadkeys?
[12:27] <naxo> thanks n2diy
[12:27] <jewbilee> speaking of special function keys I could use some help too
[12:27] <YupItsMe> daymn, the more I learn the more I love about linux/ubuntu!  :D  that sounds cheezy but wth.
[12:27] <mwe> isn't that for the console keymap
[12:27] <n2diy> mwe, man loadkeys.
[12:27] <LucianSolaris> yo
[12:27] <Tenric> but plug-and-play is a common expression, with an easily recognizable meaning, even in non-exact references, while "plug-and-push" is not.
[12:27] <Tenric> hehe
[12:27] <Mikey> BULLE: guess what, i used the windows universal fix, (apparently it spread to linux as well) and it works
[12:27] <tirus89> !low level format
[12:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about low level format - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:27] <[BTF] Chm0d> hmm guess not
[12:27] <tirus89> !low-level
[12:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about low-level - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <cas3> you know what I mean though, i it's all automatic
[12:28] <BULLE> Mikey: hehe
[12:28] <jewbilee> I use FN+F8 for CRT/LCD, becuase something is wrong with my monitor cable and my screen goes blank sometimes, but pressing the usually turns off and then turns back on the screen in windows, but not Ubuntu, does anyone know how to fix this?
[12:28] <BULLE> Mikey: happy joy joy then
[12:28] <mwe> n2diy: I know what loadkeys is. AFAIK it just loads a predefined keymap for the keyboard in the terminal _outside_ Xorg
[12:28] <Tenric> happy, happy joy-joy, happy, happy joy-joy
[12:28] <peace-keeper> linux would be so great if you didnt have to spend hours configuring / figuring out things :)
[12:28] <[BTF] Chm0d> not much acknowlegement in here
[12:28] <tirus89> !formatting
[12:28] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[12:29] <[BTF] Chm0d> almost as if you are invisible
[12:29] <mwe> n2diy: It doesn't have any effect inside X not to mention for special keys
[12:29] <YupItsMe> peace-keeper  that's part of the fun of linux
[12:29] <n2diy> mwe, I thought it did bindings too? Haven't taken a close look at it yet.
[12:29] <wilstar> hi all.
[12:29] <riotkittie> figuring things out is great.
[12:29] <Mikey> BULLE: well, no, because now i have to set it up to work with WPA
[12:29] <tirus89> !DiskMounter
[12:29] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[12:29] <Tenric> peace-keeper: that's what separates us from non-Nerds.
[12:29] <[BTF] Chm0d> !fstab
[12:29] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[12:29] <Valentine> may I get a little help with initial grafix misdetection? I mean from the moment of booting to the 6.10 desktop cd
[12:29] <tirus89> !fuse
[12:29] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[12:29] <Jambo1> Hi. I've used testing distros before. I was wondering what kind of things I would be able to help out with in Feisty given that I know little about coding but am willing to poke around?
[12:29] <mnoir> [BTF] Chm0d: most folks ignore ppl who do not ask real questions
[12:29] <Valentine> please?
[12:30] <[BTF] Chm0d> umm i was in much earlier posted a questions and still nothing
[12:30] <[BTF] Chm0d> so its a hit and miss
[12:30] <riotkittie> then repeat your question
[12:30] <mnoir> ask gain, i will try if i know :)
[12:30] <Valentine> fubarred graphics from boot, all modes, all resolutions
[12:30] <mnoir> gain=again
[12:30] <Valentine> just trying to get to the initial exploration of desktop cd
[12:30] <[BTF] Chm0d> im having a problem with my dvd drive.  I am installing my q4 but it says I dont have permissions http://pastebin.ca/311499
[12:30] <wilstar> i need winetools, but i can't download it. The official download-site doesn't work and i can't find any site rpm with the latest version. can anyone send winetools to me? thanks in advance
[12:30] <mwe> !patience | [BTF] Chm0d
[12:31] <ubotu> [BTF] Chm0d: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:31] <[BTF] Chm0d> my cdrom drive has same options in fstab i have np there
[12:31] <apokryphos> Jambon: take a look here:
[12:31] <apokryphos> ubotu: participate
[12:31] <ubotu> To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[12:31] <kane77> can I connect two computers if i only have straight through cable?
[12:31] <scifi> is there likely to be a stable flash player 9 released for edgy ?
[12:31] <naxo> ok different approach... how can I change the brightness of my LCD display on sony VAIO from the system level... simply put - how to make everything darker... some kind of application for ATI cards?
[12:31] <cas3> yes, plip and slip ( i think)
[12:31] <[BTF] Chm0d> scifi: i use edgy and flash 9 i haven't had a problem with it
[12:31] <n2diy> kane77: nope.
[12:32] <Tenric> can anyone tell my why all my high-resource games have super-low framerate even though my system is easily good enough to handle them?
[12:32] <[BTF] Chm0d> kane77: yes you can
[12:32] <riotkittie> ooh. i had ports open left and right.
[12:32] <kane77> n2diy, some routers can handle crossover... I thought...
[12:32] <hou5ton> mnoir:   ok .. i have the mc gui version, but it won't let me change the permissions on a template folder so I can copy new templates in there?  What am I missing?
[12:32] <mwe> Tenric: I think that question is a bit too general
[12:32] <scifi> [BTF] Chm0d: any idea if it works well in konqueror too?
[12:32] <kane77> [BTF] Chm0d, so the lan card will cross it?
[12:32] <mnoir> hou5ton: you are running gnome commander??
[12:32] <hou5ton> yes
[12:33] <n2diy> kane77: well, if you have a router, and TWO cables, then yes, you can connect two computers.
[12:33] <mnoir> k sec
[12:33] <[BTF] Chm0d> now konqueror im not sure for i use firefox
[12:33] <hou5ton> mnoir:   yes
[12:33] <mirak> is there a way to blacklist modules ?
[12:33] <mwe> mirak: yes
[12:33] <[BTF] Chm0d> umm kane77 yea if you connect two computers with a crossover cable you are fine
[12:33] <cas3> you can reverse the pair on cat5 cant you?
[12:33] <newpZ> hi what is the best way to convert a file to mpeg4?
[12:33] <[BTF] Chm0d> not using a router though just both nics
[12:33] <mirak> I have a module that conflict with another one. pmac_zilog prevent 8250.ko to be loaded, and it's bad
[12:33] <washbear> cannot connect to my access points web-interface with firefox - what's to be done? install MS IE with x-over office?
[12:33] <mirak> mwe: how ?
[12:33] <scifi> [BTF] Chm0d: i think i have to enable backports for player 9. how do i do that ?
[12:33] <FunnyMan3595> n2diy: I've been able to just connect the two by a cable and assign them both local static IPs.
[12:34] <Valentine> [spam apology]  I am trying to boot to the Desktop 6.10 AMD64 Bit CD with a GeForce 6600. I get the initial boot screen fine, but as soon as I attempt to move on, the graphics are garbled. I have tried multiple resolutions and colour depths in both normal and safe modes. Any help?
[12:34] <mwe> mirak:put blacklist <stupid_modudle> in a file in /etc/modprobe.d/
[12:34] <dirle> I want to install AutoCad.. wine is installed along with IE6.. but the AutoCad installer can not see it.. help pls
[12:34] <cas3> and you could use a serial to connect 2 boxes
[12:34] <mnoir> hou5ton: stupid question - i installed it but where izzit in the menu??
[12:34] <Tenric> mwe: my computer's brand-new; Intel core-2 duo and a gig of ram, but all of the games I have on Ubuntu that aren't super basic to begin with are s-l-o-w
[12:34] <[BTF] Chm0d> hmm scifi i haven't enabled anything for my flash to work so youa re getting into something im not all that good at
[12:34] <kane77> n2diy, I meant that normaly a straight through cable is used for connecting router-PC but crossover worked as well... so I thought that router doesnt mind... I thought that lan cards can convert it...
[12:34] <mwe> Tenric: what card?
[12:34] <hou5ton> mnoir:   Applications / Accessories
[12:34] <[BTF] Chm0d> serial much too slow these days :P
[12:34] <riotkittie> converting audio from one format to another, most often, is unwise. unless you dont mind (further) quality degeneration.
[12:34] <n2diy> FunnyMan3595: with a crossover cable yes, otherwise you need a router.
[12:34] <Tenric> Hm.
[12:34] <cas3> yeah but still cool
[12:35] <FunnyMan3595> n2diy: Actually, modern hardware will crossover automatically.
[12:35] <cas3> Tenric what game?
[12:35] <Tenric> Nvidia, I think.  How do I check
[12:35] <scifi> [BTF] Chm0d: the default flashplugin-nonfree is version 7, are you sure ur using version 9?
[12:35] <dirle> I want to install AutoCad.. wine is installed along with IE6.. but the AutoCad installer can not see it.. help pls
[12:35] <mnoir> :} sec
[12:35] <Tenric> case3: several
[12:35] <mwe> Tenric: lspci
[12:35] <Valentine> [spam apology]  I am trying to boot to the Desktop 6.10 AMD64 Bit CD with a GeForce 6600. I get the initial boot screen fine, but as soon as I attempt to move on, the graphics are garbled. I have tried multiple resolutions and colour depths in both normal and safe modes. Any help?
[12:35] <mwe> Tenric: what does glxinfo|grep direct return if you type it in a terminal?
[12:35] <cas3> tenric glxinfo | grep glx
[12:35] <n2diy> FunnyMan3595: modern hardware, whatzat? :)
[12:35] <lifepositive> What is the difference between ADSL and DSL?  any1 know pls?
[12:35] <cas3> err direct...yeah...
[12:35] <FunnyMan3595> n2diy: If you've got old stuff, you need a crossover, but I've used a normal cable to connect two straight and a crossover to connect to a router.
[12:35] <[BTF] Chm0d> thats what it says
[12:36] <dirle> I want to install AutoCad.. wine is installed along with IE6.. but the AutoCad installer can not see it.. help pls
[12:36] <mnoir> hou5ton: ok i was looking for sumpin i cannot find quickly - try running from a terminal:  gksudo gnome-commander
[12:36] <Valentine> n2: hardware guaranteed to be problematic under Linux?
[12:36] <[BTF] Chm0d> could be wrong
[12:36] <cas3> hey what games Tenric are you playing?
[12:36] <Flannel> !repeat | dirle
[12:36] <scifi> [BTF] Chm0d: it says version 9?
[12:36] <ubotu> dirle: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:36] <kane77> FunnyMan3595, does it cross automaticaly? (the on  board stuff) that's what I was on about!
[12:36] <mirak> mwe: ok
[12:36] <[BTF] Chm0d> yes
[12:36] <mwe> mirak: do you understand?
[12:36] <dirle> I want to install AutoCad.. wine is installed along with IE6.. but the AutoCad installer can not see it.. help pls
[12:36] <kyncani> Valentine: i would try feisty
[12:36] <Valentine> !patience
[12:36] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:36] <naxo> dsl - digital subscriber line, and adsl - asynchronous digital subscriber line or smyh lifepositive
[12:36] <nisq> How do I tell which version of ubuntu I am running?
[12:36] <scifi> [BTF] Chm0d: and how did u install it? just via synaptic?
[12:36] <mnoir> hou5ton: your problem is you need root privs to change perms
[12:36] <[BTF] Chm0d> well im goin to find somewhere else to help me with fstab
[12:36] <FunnyMan3595> n2diy: Anything after 2000, and possibly earlier than that.  I don't know when they came up with that feature, but I discovered that it works by accident.
[12:36] <[BTF] Chm0d> no went to macromedia and d/l
[12:36] <hou5ton> mnoir:   ah
[12:37] <Tenric> case3: gl-117, Globulation 2, Lincity-NG, and Flightgear
[12:37] <riotkittie> [BTF] Chm0d: whats your prob with fstab?
[12:37] <mwe> Tenric: what does glxinfo|grep direct return if you type it in a terminal?
[12:37] <cas3> Tenric, oh
[12:37] <metafour> Hi all, I just installed Ubuntu on my Box and was wondering if someone could help me get my wireless card working?
[12:37] <n2diy> FunnyMan3595: ok, news to me.
[12:37] <[BTF] Chm0d> riotkittie: http://pastebin.ca/311499
[12:37] <dirle> !patience
[12:37] <gdb> nisq: $ cat /etc/lsb-release
[12:37] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:37] <mnoir> hou5ton: there should be a pick on a menu to run it as root
[12:37] <[BTF] Chm0d> umm
[12:37] <riotkittie> brb
[12:37] <Mikey> BULLE: i belive i need command line to set up WPA anyway?
[12:37] <[BTF] Chm0d> im trying to install q4 via dvd and it says permissions denied
[12:37] <cas3> Lincity-ng was slow for me too, I wonder what language it was written in
[12:37] <mnoir> hou5ton: it is easy enough to add to the menu as such but i thought the facility was already there
[12:37] <FunnyMan3595> n2diy: Yeah, it's an undocumented feature as far as I can tell, the manufacturers just slipped it in quietly.
[12:37] <mwe> gdb: what about just typing lsb_release -a ? ;)
[12:37] <dirle> I want to install AutoCad.. wine is installed along with IE6.. but the AutoCad installer can not see it.. help pls
[12:37] <Tenric> mwe: nothing usefil
[12:38] <[BTF] Chm0d> but my cdrom has same settings and I have no problem with that
[12:38] <Tenric> *useful
[12:38] <[BTF] Chm0d> !fstab
[12:38] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[12:38] <gdb> mwe: oh!  I didn't know there was a command for it.  That's nifty!
[12:38] <mwe> Tenric: what did it return?
[12:38] <Tenric> directions on usage
[12:38] <Valentine> so no one can tell me how to get the cd to boot so I can actually see the graphics?
[12:38] <nisq> Can anyone help me?  What command tells you which version of Ubuntu you are running?
[12:38] <n2diy> FunnyMan3595: I have a meeting tomorrow night, I'll ask those guys what they know about it?
[12:38] <kyncani> Valentine: i would try feisty
[12:38] <Tenric> Usage: grep [OPTION] ... PATTERN [FILE] ...
[12:38] <Tenric> Try `grep --help' for more information.
[12:38] <Valentine> feisty?
[12:38] <cas3> ?
[12:38] <mwe> Tenric: type it correctly
[12:38] <gdb> nisq: You've been given 2 different commands to use.
[12:38] <gdb> nisq: Are neither of them acceptable?
[12:38] <mnoir> hou5ton: you know the whole sudo story?
[12:38] <mwe> Tenric: glxinfo|grep direct
[12:38] <FunnyMan3595> kane77: It should.  Like I said, it's an undocumented feature, so not all cards may do it, but the worst that'll happen is that it won't connect.
[12:38] <rogue780> is there a way to search the contents of all the files in a directory and all the subdirectories for specific text?
[12:39] <cas3> glxinfo | grep direct
[12:39] <nisq> I didn't see them sorry
[12:39] <IdleOne> how do I check my internal ip?
[12:39] <mwe> Tenric: type that
[12:39] <gdb> nisq: ;-)
[12:39] <kyncani> Valentine: modern hardware not working -> try a more recent distro
[12:39] <FunnyMan3595> n2diy: What guys?  (sorry, just came on channel a bit ago)
[12:39] <naxo> ok different approach... how can I change the brightness of my LCD display on sony VAIO from the system level... simply put - how to make everything darker... some kind of application for ATI cards?
[12:39] <gdb> nisq: I'd use mwe's, personally.  $ lsb_release -a
[12:39] <nisq> Thank you gdb
[12:39] <dirle> I want to install AutoCad.. wine is installed along with IE6.. but the AutoCad installer can not see it.. help pls
[12:39] <rogue780> is there a way to search the contents of all the files in a directory and all the subdirectories for specific text?
[12:39] <Flannel> dirle: please stop repeating the same thing over and over again.  Yes, people have seen it.  Would you prefer it if 970 people all told you they didn't know the answer?
[12:39] <Valentine> kyn: is the GeForece 6600 'modern'?
[12:39] <riotkittie> [BTF] Chm0d: what's your specific problem with the fstab, or getting things to mount? and are you using edgy? i am unfamiliar with the whole UUID way of thnigs
[12:39] <gdb> nisq: No worries, I'm just giving you a hard time ;-)
[12:39] <hou5ton> mnoir:   well .. i know it is temporary root
[12:39] <kane77> FunnyMan3595, the worst that would happen is that I would unplug the computer carry it up plug it in and find out it doesnt work :D
[12:40] <n2diy> FunnyMan3595: Carbon Amateur Radio Club, we meet on the air every Wednesday. Lot of linux guys there.
[12:40] <alekzandr> is the us ubuntu archive going slowly? updates seem glacial the last two days
[12:40] <riotkittie> the one thing i did notice was a lack of mount points for a partititon ar two.
[12:40] <mnoir> hou5ton: this is totally related
[12:40] <kyncani> Valentine: i don't know but assumed so,isn't it ?
[12:40] <dirle> just maybe someone who just joined knows... that's all Flannel
[12:40] <hou5ton> mnoir:   I just moved some stuff in there ... and will see if it actually wokds now
[12:40] <DanSayCool> joy
[12:40] <Tenric> direct rendering: No
[12:40] <Tenric> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[12:40] <mwe> Tenric: that's your problem
[12:40] <mnoir> riotkittie: UUID is a way of matching labels instead of hw devices
[12:40] <newpZ> is there a video converter for linux?
[12:40] <Valentine> kyn: worth a try, ty for the lead.
[12:40] <mwe> Tenric: you don't have accelerated 3d
[12:40] <cas3> you need to intstall your nvidia kernel mod Tenric
[12:40] <snide> hey guys, any of you know how i can make blender able to minimize? so i can read the tutorials then go back .. and forth and so on
[12:40] <[BTF] Chm0d> riotkittie: i am installing q4 via cedega but it will not let me see contents of the dvd says permissions denied
[12:40] <Tenric> OK, how do I do that?
[12:40] <cas3> Tenric: or whatever card drivers you need for your hardware
[12:40] <lynucs|afk> newpZ, join #tovid and try to install tovid and todisc
[12:40] <mwe> Tenric: you need to install the nvidia driver if that's the card you have
[12:41] <mnoir> riotkittie: they did it so you could change plugs and still address the same disks
[12:41] <lynucs|afk> newpZ, in #tovid someone might help you
[12:41] <nanda> quick question, whats the command for restarting apache in the terminal?
[12:41] <cas3> uh...hng on long process
[12:41] <FunnyMan3595> n2diy: They may or may not know, depends on who's played around with networking cables.  :)
[12:41] <IdleOne> mwe: may I dcc chat you to test?
[12:41] <rogue780> is there a way to search the contents of all the files in a directory and all the subdirectories for specific text?
[12:41] <newpZ> thanks
[12:41] <mwe> IdleOne: ?
[12:41] <Flannel> nanda: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart (that's for apache2, obviously)
[12:41] <IdleOne> mwe:  dcc isnt working wanna see if I got it fixed
[12:41] <mnoir> rogue780: man grep and pay attention to -R
[12:41] <nanda> Flannel: thanks!
[12:41] <n2diy> FunnyMan3595: roger that.
[12:42] <FunnyMan3595> kane77: Why do you want to connect them like that?  (Got on recently, remember?)
[12:42] <mwe> IdleOne: go ahead
[12:42] <bluefox83> how do i launch/configure samba?
[12:42] <mnoir> !samba | bluefox83
[12:42] <ubotu> bluefox83: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:42] <alekzandr> i am reading a nice samba howto http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605&highlight=samba
[12:42] <IdleOne> mwe:  anything?
[12:42] <cas3> Tenric: what version of ubuntu do you have?
[12:42] <mwe> IdleOne: I got a popup but couldn't accept it
[12:43] <rogue780> mnoir, that won't show me the contents of the file though...
[12:43] <kyncani> newpZ: like avidemux perhaps ?
[12:43] <hou5ton> mnoir:   ok ... the new templates are all there
[12:43] <dirle> do I have to tweak Wine in order for Windows based applications see any other needed software like IE?
[12:43] <IdleOne> mwe:  thanks
[12:43] <alekzandr> nanda, you can also do apache2ctl graceful
[12:43] <hou5ton> mnoir:   and work
[12:43] <mnoir> hou5ton: so all is happy?
[12:43] <nanda> thanks alekzandr
[12:43] <YupItsMe> I wish my printer was compatible with ubuntu
[12:43] <tobyr> Hey guys, making a partition for Ubuntu, do I need ext2 or exg3?
[12:43] <Tenric> Ah, I lied. It's an ATI
[12:43] <Tenric> case3: Edgy
[12:43] <tobyr> ext3*
[12:43] <cas3> Tenric: go here for the drivers -  http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[12:44] <nanda> toby: use ext3
[12:44] <mnoir> rogue780: it shows you the line that has the match.  if you want to see the fiule, make grep only print the file names and pipe to cat
[12:44] <bimberi> tobyr: use ext3
[12:44] <cas3> Tenric: oh ... well then I dunno
[12:44] <tobyr> Thanks guys
[12:44] <Flannel> dirle: since no one here knows, you might ask the wine channels - #winehq is a good place to start
[12:44] <wilstar> can anyone send me winetools?
[12:44] <[BTF] Chm0d> i know about the lack of mount points i think that has something to do with a prior raid0 i had
[12:44] <cas3> Tenric: I've only used nvidia
[12:44] <tobyr> My CD drive is broken, so I have the ISO on my windows Desktop
[12:44] <dirle> ty Flannel
[12:44] <rogue780> mnoir, cat?
[12:44] <rogue780> crap
[12:44] <nisq> Cool, I am pulling out some old drives, I forgot when and what I did back then.  Thanks. Ubuntu 5.10 be what they are
[12:44] <tobyr> Don't have a clue how to install it
[12:44] <Enverex> dirle, What's the problem?
[12:44] <rogue780> don't know what that is
[12:44] <cas3> they offer better support
[12:44] <mnoir> rogue780: man cat to learn more
[12:44] <jewbilee> Where can I see what programs are using what processor usage?
[12:44] <snide> hey guys, any of you know how i can make blender able to minimize? so i can read the tutorials then go back .. and forth and so on
[12:44] <Flannel> !install | tobyr
[12:44] <ubotu> tobyr: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[12:44] <tobyr> I was going to use Instlux but they don't use Edgy... I have 6.10 here on my desktop
[12:44] <dirle> got Autocad instalation working.. but it can not see the IE that is installed
[12:44] <sdgr406> jewbilee: top
[12:44] <mnoir> rogue780: or pipe to vi
[12:44] <Tenric> OK, it has an x86 and an x86_64. which one?
[12:44] <Flannel> tobyr: the first link has a method of installing from inside windows, or it used to.
[12:45] <jewbilee> sdgr406: what do you mean top?
[12:45] <mnoir> ro
[12:45] <rogue780> mnoir, pipe it...
[12:45] <Tenric> or, rather, how do I find out which one?
[12:45] <sdgr406> jewbilee: that's the command... 'top'
[12:45] <mnoir> rogue780: to edit i mean
[12:45] <naxo> ext3 supports journaling - safer for your data
[12:45] <jewbilee> sgdr406: ahh, ok, is there a graphical version aswell?
[12:45] <cas3> Tenric: http://ati.de/support/driver.html
[12:45] <sdgr406> jewbilee: I think it's called gtop
[12:45] <dirle> Enverex:.. got wine on and IE installed but the Autocad installer says I need IE
[12:45] <mnoir> rogue780: let me slow down a bit
[12:45] <tobyr> Ah
[12:45] <Tenric> that's the page I'm on.
[12:45] <tobyr> Excellent, thanks Flannel
[12:45] <sdgr406> jewbilee: there's also a system monitor applet you can add to your menu bar
[12:45] <DavidW2> hi. I am getting this error with eclipse: java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: memmove
[12:45] <tobyr> I just converted my Windrive from NTFS to FAT32
[12:45] <nisq> snide: you have to set the blender to start in a window, then you can resize  Took me awhile to figure that one out
[12:46] <rogue780> mnoir, please...I'm doing my best, but I'm a windows convert
[12:46] <cas3> Tenric: I guess download it, stop X, and then install it
[12:46] <mnoir> rogue780: often one unix command does part of a job and another does another part
[12:46] <jewbilee> sgdr: whats it called?
[12:46] <mwe> naxo: or rather ext3 _is_ a journaled fils system. ext2 with a journal to be specific
[12:46] <tobyr> Hey, does anyone know if a Netgear WPN511 will work out of the box?
[12:46] <jewbilee> sdgr: found it
[12:46] <rogue780> mnoir, I'm with you so far
[12:46] <mnoir> rogue780: so we connect the output of one command to the input of the next
[12:46] <Tenric> case3: but which driver do I choose?  there's x86 and x86_64
[12:46] <cas3> Tenric: do you have a 64bit processor?
[12:46] <FunnyMan3595> *scratches his head*  Huh, thought I'd enabled universe/multiverse on this computer.  Apparently not...
[12:46] <Tenric> I should
[12:47] <Tenric> I see.
[12:47] <cas3> Tenric: what's your processor model?
[12:47] <naxo> mwe: just like you said... ext3 is a journaled filesystem...
[12:47] <mnoir> rogue780: this may be easier in a p,....
[12:47] <mnoir> pm i mean
[12:47] <Tenric> dunno
[12:47] <wilstar> can anyone send me winetools?
[12:47] <Tenric> graphic or main?
[12:47] <snide> nisq
[12:47] <n2diy> FunnyMan3595: save after you make your changes, or they don't stick.
[12:47] <cas3> no like AMD or Intel
[12:47] <snide> how do i do that, im still pretty new
[12:47] <rogue780> mnoir, did you get the pm? I've had issues before
[12:47] <Przemcio78> what time is it now?
[12:48] <cas3> Pentium 4 or whatever it is...
[12:48] <adaptr> 00:47
[12:48] <adaptr> silly
[12:48] <Przemcio78> sorry, wrong vhannel
[12:48] <n2diy> 1847
[12:48] <mwe> naxo: I was just being annoying, correcting your statement that ext3 supports journaling. it's mandatory or it wouldn't be ext3 by definition ;)
[12:48] <kane77> FunnyMan3595, I dont have cross right now :D
[12:48] <mnoir> rono i tried you...
[12:48] <FunnyMan3595> n2diy: Thinking back, I think synaptic barfed on me at the time.  Something about adding them duplicated a repository.
[12:49] <mardi_soir> hello .. i would like to mute system bips... no X is  running ...
[12:49] <nanda> I'm trying to setup apache2+php5, I have php5 installed, but when I browse to a php page it offers a download instead of displaying the page..
[12:49] <nanda> any ideas?
[12:49] <hou5ton> how can I capture streaming video from CNN.com so that I can replay it for a class at a later time without internet access?
[12:49] <Tenric> case3: Intel
[12:49] <kane77> how easy is to set up shared internet connection?
[12:49] <h3xis> kane77, hey, you get it?
[12:49] <cas3> is ubuntu going to put more ruby1.9 libraries in their repository? or are they waiting for 2.0?
[12:49] <adaptr> mwe: not so fast... look through the possible tune2fs options for ext3 and you'll see there is a lot of room for argument; strictly, ext3 is an extension of ext2, and not a real FS in its own right - proven by the fact that you can always mount an ext3 partition as if it were ext2
[12:49] <cas3> Tenric: Intel what?
[12:49] <Tenric> core2 Duo
[12:49] <kane77> h3xis, I bought WMM-3000AP but it doesnt work out...
[12:49] <nisq> snide:  I think I found it reading the tutorials, I ended up setting a launch option in the workspace
[12:49] <mnoir> rogue780: try joining #ubuntuuu
[12:49] <FunnyMan3595> kane77: Yeah, but why do you want to connect them directly?  Just that you have no network to put between them, or were you having problems with how they were connecting before?
[12:50] <kane77> FunnyMan3595, they have no network...
[12:50] <h3xis> kane77, it's just an access point so it won't work :/
[12:50] <juanfjara> hello
[12:50] <cas3> Tenric: get the x86 package
[12:50] <nisq> Snide: I am working on an old ubuntu machine right now, and the machine with my blender stuff is in the trunk of my car right now - sorry
[12:51] <kane77> h3xis, I found out... the guy in the shop persuaded that that's what I want...
[12:51] <kane77> h3xis, I decided to trust the cable :D
[12:51] <h3xis> kane77, should have stuck with your original plan to get the wrt54gl
[12:51] <wilstar> can anyone send me winetools?
[12:51] <cas3> Tenric: that's a nice processor by the way
[12:51] <nisq> Snide:  Blender is cool.   The animations are straight forward when you get there.  Take you time.  It takes awhile to remember the hot keys
[12:51] <metafour> Hi all, I just installed Linux on my system alongside windows and I was wondering if someone could help me get the wireless card working?
[12:52] <kane77> h3xis, yeah, well he told me that it doesnt got what it needs...
[12:52] <alin0s> depends if the card is supported.
[12:52] <FunnyMan3595> kane77: Okay, it should work.  If not, you can pick up http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/tools/7470/ to make a normal cable crossover.
[12:52] <metafour> it is supported ; p
[12:52] <mardi_soir> hello .. i would like to mute system bips... thanks for wanswer
[12:52] <nisq> Snide:  got to go sorry
[12:52] <snide> np man
[12:52] <metafour> in fact the wireless cards driver cd HAS some drivers for certain linux distributions on it
[12:52] <FunnyMan3595> kane77: Or perform surgery (http://www.makeitsimple.com/how-to/dyi_crossover.htm)
[12:52] <alin0s> hmm i dont really know much about that ill have to get out my google gun :D
[12:52] <metafour> but this being my first distribution i don't know how to install them
[12:52] <h3xis> kane77, why not?
[12:52] <Tenric> case3: Thanks
[12:52] <h3xis> kane77, what did he say it needed
[12:52] <Tenric> I'm happy with it
[12:53] <caminomaster> hi
[12:53] <kane77> h3xis, he said that wds is what I need...
[12:53] <peace-keeper> !java
[12:53] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[12:53] <FunnyMan3595> kane77: If you need them to connect to the internet at the same time, you'll need more than that, though, unless one of the two has a second NIC.
[12:53] <alin0s> ubotu...
[12:53] <peace-keeper> !multiverse
[12:53] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[12:53] <alin0s> what kind of name is that
[12:53] <kane77> h3xis, gotta go...
[12:53] <alin0s> seems like a bot if you ask me
[12:53] <caminomaster> how can I set a player to preview from ares under wine?
[12:53] <cas3> Tenric: it supports 64 bit, but I really don't know anything about that, I need to keep up with the pace of technology better
[12:53] <h3xis> kane77, alright. you dont need wds though :P
[12:53] <FunnyMan3595> !ubotu
[12:53] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:53] <kane77> h3xis, see you tomorow
[12:53] <h3xis> kane77, ok
[12:54] <FunnyMan3595> !hi | alin0s
[12:54] <ubotu> alin0s: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:54] <FunnyMan3595> alin0s: Yeah, it's a bot.  :)
[12:54] <alin0s> can i get ubotu to say lick my shiney metal butt
[12:54] <alin0s> lol
[12:54] <alin0s> that would be good.
[12:55] <FunnyMan3595> !language | alin0s
[12:55] <ubotu> alin0s: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:55] <bobbyd> hi
[12:55] <FunnyMan3595> Nah, he's too straight-laced.  :)
[12:55] <FunnyMan3595> !hi | bobbyd
[12:55] <ubotu> bobbyd: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:55] <caminomaster> how can I set a player to preview from ares under wine?
[12:56] <Enverex> Is there anyone here that has been using Linux for many years?
[12:56] <FunnyMan3595> Wondermous.  Now that I've got the repositories on (duh), the JDK installed.  :)
[12:56] <bobbyd> does anyone have suggestions for a good batch music tagger/renamer ? I tried musicbrainz and cowbell, but neither seem to be that good (cowbell crashes in batch mode under Edgy)
[12:56] <FunnyMan3595> Enverex: In what sense, and what is "many"?
[12:56] <Mikey> what was that file called, WPA_confs....something??? anyone???
[12:56] <IdleOne> w33d30
[12:56] <kozmic> how do i know what version of ubuntu im running ?
[12:56] <mike__> What's the free channel again?
[12:56] <Enverex> FunnyMan3595, Say... 3+ years
[12:56] <Taime1> does linux automatically recognize a highspeed connection if its a first time hookup? or do i need windows to establish the connection, then i can plug in the linux box?
[12:57] <alin0s> 0 years 0 days i use mac lol
[12:57] <schisms> It's automatic
[12:57] <Taime1> sweet
[12:57] <bobbyd> Taime1: how are you connecting, cable modem via ethernet?
[12:57] <Music_Shuffle> Taime1, auto I'm pretty sure.
[12:57] <Taime1> i thought so
[12:57] <Taime1> yes, bobbyd
[12:57] <schisms> If it's ethernet.
[12:57] <schisms> I don't know about usb.
[12:57] <FunnyMan3595> Enverex: I've been using Linux from a command prompt for that long, but I only converted a few months ago.
[12:57] <alin0s> looking into linux for a old windows box to convert it so i can have a nice file storage server
[12:57] <bobbyd> Taime1: just plug and play then :)
[12:57] <alin0s> one that doesent crash every week *twitch*
[12:57] <Taime1> thanks
[12:57] <Taime1> see ya folks
[12:58] <schisms> What's the free channel?
[12:58] <Music_Shuffle> ..?
[12:58] <Music_Shuffle> Free?
[12:58] <FunnyMan3595> schisms: As opposed to?
[12:58] <schisms> The open talk channel, not support.
[12:58] <Music_Shuffle> !offtopic
[12:58] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:58] <schisms> Thanks.
[12:59] <Music_Shuffle> Anytime.
[12:59] <Agrajag> this one isn't free? oh man, I'd better fake my own death or something, I can't pay that bill
[12:59] <schisms> Sorry, misspoke. Hah
[12:59] <Music_Shuffle> ahahaha
[12:59] <m12> any ideas why a printer that is hooked up to my router doesn't appear on the network?  I have another printer which DOES, but this one doesn't.  But it works with windows.
[12:59] <Arigato> is there a quick way to get the md5 hash of string from console?
[12:59] <FunnyMan3595> Agrajag: Yeah...  I could fall on either side, there.  Had one person singing my praises, but I've also been asking for a bunch of help.
[12:59] <Klark_Kent> how do i enable PHP on dapper drake?
[12:59] <Klark_Kent> in ##php, they referred me here
[12:59] <dxdt> Arigato, echo -n "fooo blah" | md5sum
 i've tried to install PHP on ubuntu dapper drake, but every time i run a PHP script on my server, my web browsers asks me to download it rather than the server running it -- as if it's not recognised... but other site's that use PHP files (ie.: message boards and so on), they run -- what's wrong with my PHP installation? i've tried many times (i get it from the package manager synaptic
[01:00] <bobbyd> FunnyMan3595: your join script is annoying :)
[01:00] <FunnyMan3595> Klark_Kent: Have you tried sudo apt-get install php?:
[01:00] <Klark_Kent> yes
[01:00] <Klark_Kent> i've isntalled it more than once
[01:00] <dxdt> Klark_Kent, look in the config files.  Something is missing there.
[01:00] <FunnyMan3595> Klark_Kent: Sounds like the server is misconfigured.
[01:00] <dxdt> Klark_Kent, go through them searching for things containing php
[01:00] <Klark_Kent> they said something about "Mime" types
[01:00] <FunnyMan3595> Klark_Kent: Webserver, not PHP server.
[01:00] <FunnyMan3595> bobbyd: What join script?
[01:00] <P3nnywise> How do I install Java Runtime enviorement?
[01:00] <farkr> ubuntu uses 2.6 kernel right?
[01:01] <Klark_Kent> ok, brb i'll check the web server's confs
[01:01] <noobcook> damnit im still having ubuntu install errors
[01:01] <dxdt> farkr, yes
[01:01] <FunnyMan3595> bobbyd: *clueless*  I'm using gaim, I haven't set one other than whatever default it may use.
[01:01] <bobbyd> FunnyMan3595: ok, you must have done the !hi thing by hand then?
[01:01] <Enverex> Without using Kubuntu, how easy is it to switch from Gnome to KDE?
[01:01] <FunnyMan3595> bobbyd: Only for people who come on and say "Hi".  :)
[01:02] <Music_Shuffle> Enverex, very.
[01:02] <bobbyd> Klark_Kent: check the module is enables with "a2enmod" if it's apache2
[01:02] <noobcook> can i whisper someone to get some ubuntu install help?
[01:02] <Klark_Kent> ok
[01:02] <Klark_Kent> thanks
[01:02] <bobbyd> FunnyMan3595: :)
[01:02] <Enverex> Music_Shuffle, Awsome, thanks
[01:02] <FunnyMan3595> Enverex: Eh, using KDE in ubuntu is pretty much Kubuntu.
[01:03] <bobbyd> noobcook: just ask in the channel
[01:03] <P3nnywise> How do I install Java runtime enviorment?
[01:03] <Music_Shuffle> Not really.
[01:03] <bobbyd> noobcook: someone will help :)
[01:03] <noobcook> but so much spam but ok
[01:03] <FunnyMan3595> Enverex: In fact, the easiest way to install it is apt-get install kubuntu
[01:03] <Music_Shuffle> Kubuntu installs always fail for me after a few months, Ubuntu installs with KDE...never. ./shrug.
[01:03] <FunnyMan3595> !pastebin | noobcook
[01:03] <ubotu> noobcook: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:03] <apokryphos> FunnyLookinHat: kubuntu-desktop
[01:03] <Music_Shuffle> !kde | Enverex
[01:03] <Tenric> how do I run a .run?
[01:03] <ubotu> Enverex: KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[01:03] <Music_Shuffle> its kubuntu-desktop
[01:03] <Ralth> I am getting frustrated with my wireless connection.  It was working find, then I installed kismet and ran it.  That worked fine, but now I can connect to my network.  Any ideas?
[01:03] <FunnyMan3595> apokryphos: Pardon.
[01:03] <noobcook> i have troubles with installing from cd on my laptop, but i have a console on my laptop atm, i would like to copy the cd to my harddrive so i can then install from that
[01:03] <Enverex> FunnyMan3595, Well yeah, heh, I just prefer KDE these days although Gnome isn't as bad under Ubuntu as it seems to have a lot more features for some reason.
[01:03] <Music_Shuffle> Err..nvm. apokryphos wins :(
[01:03] <noobcook> i am new to linux
[01:03] <FunnyMan3595> Right, got it.  kubuntu-desktop.
[01:03] <apokryphos> that page has all the info
[01:04] <tobyr> Hey guys
[01:04] <Tajmox> What program to capture screen to video?
[01:04] <tobyr> I'm following the windows install thing, and I dont understand this line
[01:04] <apokryphos> most of the content there hasn't changed since hoary :P
[01:04] <tobyr> "Create a new text file called menu.lst and save it to the first primary partition of your hard drive."
[01:04] <Tajmox> Or capture window to video
[01:04] <tobyr> Does that mean put it in the root of C:
[01:04] <tobyr> ?
[01:04] <FunnyMan3595> noobcook: So, how far have you gotten?
[01:04] <bobbyd> noobcook: is your CD drive broken?
[01:04] <FunnyMan3595> noobcook: Or are you just to the "I want it" stage?
[01:04] <Tenric> how do I run a .run?
[01:04] <Dypfryst> apt-get install msttcorefonts gsfonts-x11
[01:04] <Klark_Kent> bobbyd: in mods-enabled in /apache2: " Press ? for keyboard shortcuts
[01:04] <Klark_Kent> " Sorted by name (.bak,~,.swp,.o,.info,.aux,.log,.dvi,.bbl,.blg,.brf,.cb,.ind,.i"= /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/
[01:04] <Klark_Kent> ../
[01:04] <Klark_Kent> cgi.load
[01:04] <Klark_Kent> userdir.conf
[01:04] <Dypfryst> ops
[01:04] <Klark_Kent> userdir.load
[01:05] <FunnyMan3595> !pastebin | Klark_Kent
[01:05] <ubotu> Klark_Kent: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:05] <noobcook> well funnyman , in the last 3 days ive been through, solaris, debian bonzai, DSL, linux live and none of them work
[01:05] <noobcook> i know redhat and mandrake work but i am relluctant to download so much cds
[01:05] <Klark_Kent> didn't know that was large, sorry
[01:05] <FunnyMan3595> noobcook: Be more specific.  What's going wrong?
[01:05] <apokryphos> noobcook: mandriva is one cd
[01:05] <bobbyd> Tenric: if it's an executable, "chmod +x blah.run" then "./blah.run"
[01:06] <FunnyMan3595> Klark_Kent: Depends on your perspective.  I usually pastebin anything more than 2 lines or so, unless it's just a long question.
[01:06] <bobbyd> Klark_Kent: I have "php4.conf  php4.load" too
[01:06] <Klark_Kent> hmm
[01:06] <noobcook> well when i try install i get irq error so i use irqpoll then i get I\0 read errors so i use acpi_skip_timer_override but then i get soft locks on the cpu at inconsistant stages threw install
[01:06] <Klark_Kent> i cant modify mods-enabled in/out of root
[01:06] <noobcook> i think its related to my cdrom being unsported
[01:06] <bobbyd> Klark_Kent: check php package is installed, if in doubt, use synaptic to "completely remove it" and then reinstall it
[01:06] <FunnyMan3595> noobcook: Hmm, could be a driver issue.
[01:06] <noobcook> so id like to copy the cd to my hd under terminal and then run install from the hardrive
[01:07] <Klark_Kent> ok
[01:07] <Ralth> I am getting frustrated with my wireless connection.  It was working fine, then I installed kismet and ran it.  That worked fine, but now I can't connect to my network.  Any ideas?
[01:07] <bobbyd> Klark_Kent: "sudo a2enmod php4"
[01:07] <FunnyMan3595> noobcook: Have you tried an ubuntu livecd?
[01:07] <noobcook> no i havent
[01:07] <dxdt> Ralth, kismet probably put your card in monitor mode.  try sudo iwconfig eth# mode managed  where the # is the number of the car or just restart and I think it will restart.
[01:08] <bobbyd> Klark_Kent: is php in mods-available ?
[01:08] <Klark_Kent> no
[01:08] <Klark_Kent> (and im using php5 btw)
[01:08] <noobcook> i dont want to download anything else its so frustrating like being slapped in the face
[01:08] <FunnyMan3595> noobcook: Yeah, we know the feeling.
[01:08] <bobbyd> Klark_Kent: it's probably the same :)
[01:08] <Klark_Kent> Module php5 installed; run /etc/init.d/apache2 force-reload to enable.
[01:08] <Klark_Kent> : D i think that might fix it
[01:08] <Klark_Kent> i'll try it
[01:08] <noobcook> so is there boot options for ubuntu that will let me install of a local file?
[01:08] <noobcook> perhaps flash archive?
[01:09] <Enverex> Spee_Der, What's wrong?
[01:09] <FunnyMan3595> noobcook: Hmm...
[01:09] <Klark_Kent> i usually just restart or stop then start in /etc/init.d/apache2
[01:09] <FunnyMan3595> noobcook: I think there's one built for a flash drive...
[01:09] <Ralth> dxdt: tried that, and it's still not working.
[01:09] <Spee_Der> Enverex, well, nothing as yet. I just got the card. Now I need to know if I need change in xorg.conf for it is all. I haven't put it in the computer as yet.
[01:10] <noobcook> would you point me in the direction of being able to find out the code or do i need to spend more endless hours on google lol
[01:10] <Mikey> whats the x environment called in ubuntu? like if i want to apt-get it
[01:10] <bobbyd> noobcook: maybe you can boot the minimal install from a flash drive?
[01:10] <Spee_Der> Enverex, Do I need to make any changes ? Or will it just simply pick up from where I am now ?
[01:10] <Jsm06> Quick question: is their an easy way to install java on edgey?
[01:10] <Enverex> Spee_Der, What are you cureently using?
[01:10] <bobbyd> noobcook: what size flash drive do you have, and does you laptop support booting from that?
[01:10] <Spee_Der> Enverex, I am using a Matrox G400/G450 dual port video card.
[01:11] <Spee_Der> Enverex, the new 5200 card is also dual port video card with 256 megs.
[01:11] <m12> any ideas why a printer that is hooked up to my router doesn't appear on the network?  I have another printer which DOES, but this one doesn't.  But it works with windows.
[01:11] <noobcook> mikey try cat /etc/apt/sources.list i duno if thatl work
[01:11] <Enverex> Spee_Der, You'll need to install the official nvidia drivers then and make sure xorg.conf is set to use the "nvidia" driver
[01:11] <cokeslut> sup?
[01:11] <clever> how do i enable the tvout on my video card?
[01:11] <cokeslut> that's a secret
[01:11] <bobbyd> Mikey: x-window-system
[01:11] <FunnyMan3595> noobcook: Got a floppy drive:
[01:11] <FunnyMan3595> noobcook: ?
[01:11] <Ralth> dxdt: I tried iwconfig, and everything seems to be good there.  But it still won't connect.
[01:11] <Tenric> bobbyd: sweet. should I restart now or what?
[01:11] <noobcook> funnyman3595 umm yes on my laptop but not on my big computer
[01:11] <Spee_Der> Enverex, okay. I think I have all the nvidia stuff installed, will double check. Thanks much.
[01:11] <dxdt> Ralth, what router?
[01:12] <FunnyMan3595> noobcook: Okay...
[01:12] <bobbyd> Tenric: I have no idea what you did :)
[01:12] <bobbyd> Tenric: what did you install?
[01:12] <Spee_Der> I have print also a copy of the current xorg.conf just in case.
[01:12] <FunnyMan3595> noobcook: Aha!
[01:12] <noobcook> i hope ur onto something funnyman3595 =D
[01:12] <FunnyMan3595> noobcook: Got windows?
[01:12] <noobcook> winblows yes
[01:12] <FunnyMan3595> noobcook: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows
[01:12] <Ralth> dxdt: dlink.  It was working just fine until I installed kismet.
[01:12] <noobcook> not on the laptop though
[01:12] <noobcook> lol
[01:12] <dxdt> Ralth, what router anyway, out of curiosity?
[01:12] <noobcook> lilo has corrupted my winblows
[01:12] <Spee_Der> Enverex, any other suggestions before I begin the install please ?
[01:13] <FunnyMan3595> noobcook: You're trying to install to the laptop, but it's hosed?
[01:13] <noobcook> whats hosed?
[01:13] <bobbyd> Spee_Der: copy all of /etc/* to somewhere else :)
[01:13] <noobcook> !definition hosed
[01:13] <dxdt> Ralth, also, if you could pastebin your iwconfig info that would be cool too.
[01:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about definition hosed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:13] <Enverex> Spee_Der, Not that I can think of.
[01:13] <FunnyMan3595> noobcook: It won't boot into anything?
[01:13] <noobcook> it boots into terminal
[01:13] <Spee_Der> Ok. Thanks Enverex and bobbyd.....
[01:13] <noobcook> no gui thats all
[01:13] <sleepy745> how do you set xorg.conf to use the new nvidia driver?
[01:13] <BULLE> Mikey: when i used the rt2500 driver, the by far simplest way was to just use the gui to create the default profile
[01:14] <BULLE> Mikey: then the driver will load that profile, at each boot
[01:14] <kusch> is it possible to install a tar.gz-file without the terminal?
[01:14] <Maje> Can ACPI problems cause a kernel panic during bootup?
[01:14] <bobbyd> noobcook: do the server install and then just get ubuntu-desktop
[01:14] <Spee_Der> I can't wait to see the astronomy program working a lot better with the new video card, which is only 16 megs.... lol
[01:14] <noobcook> yes Maje thats what im having
[01:14] <Mikey> BULLE: ive done that with cli now :)
[01:14] <noobcook> try acpi=off
[01:14] <FunnyMan3595> noobcook: Ah, so you've got a linux prompt?
[01:14] <Mikey> BULLE: yea, its pretty easy
[01:14] <bobbyd> sleepy745: sudo nvidia-glx-config
[01:14] <noobcook> yeh funnyman with full access to commands
[01:14] <socorrista_ach> oh man
[01:14] <socorrista_ach> nvidia problems
[01:14] <socorrista_ach> got those
[01:15] <Maje> noobcook: That's what my pal's trying now. His GeForce card seems to be causing problems, been trying to figure it out for a while :D
[01:15] <Ralth> dxdt: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1000/
[01:15] <socorrista_ach> already solved it
[01:15] <socorrista_ach> is it ubuntu?
[01:15] <Mikey> BULLE: i think im going to give WPA a bash again
[01:15] <noobcook> maje u can maybe try acpi_skip_timer_override
[01:15] <cntb> please join  downloading  from torrent http://cargol.net/~ramon/ubuntu-dvd-en this edgy ubuntu install dvds
[01:15] <Ralth> dxdt: it's a netgear wgr614
[01:15] <clever> how do i enable the tvout on my video card?
[01:15] <Jerem1> hello, i am brand new to Ubuntu and I cant get my CDrom, floppy or ZIPdrive to work.... anybody got a few minutes to help me out?
[01:15] <Maje> noobcook: yes, sounds exactly like something that might help...
[01:15] <noobcook> =)
[01:16] <noobcook> gee in 3 days of using linux ive learnt to help someone
[01:16] <kusch> is it possible to install a tar.gz-file without using the terminal?
[01:16] <noobcook> that feels good
[01:16] <socorrista_ach> lol
[01:16] <socorrista_ach> so did i noobcook
[01:16] <bluefox83> Jerem1, whatcha trying to do?
[01:16] <noobcook> hehe
[01:16] <socorrista_ach> heheh
[01:16] <Jsm06> is their an easy way to install java on edgey?
[01:16] <Maje> lol we all have problems, it's a matter of telling others how to fix the problems you've already had.
[01:16] <FunnyMan3595> noobcook: Okay, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation is the main page I'm looking at...
[01:16] <socorrista_ach> yeah
[01:16] <bobbyd> noobcook: if you have a basic install, do you have a broadband connection?
[01:16] <bimberi> !java | Jsm06
[01:16] <ubotu> Jsm06: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[01:16] <socorrista_ach> just use synaptics
[01:16] <socorrista_ach> its there
[01:16] <noobcook> thats exactly right maje
[01:16] <dxdt> Ralth, hrmm.  How about a nice sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart ?  Also if I were you I would probably just reset the router, not that the router is broken, but In my experience from time to time routers get kinda confused.
[01:16] <noobcook> yes bobbyd
[01:16] <socorrista_ach> many versions of java
[01:16] <noobcook> ok funnyman
[01:17] <bimberi> !enter
[01:17] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:17] <BULLE> Mikey: back when i used the driver, it didnt respond to iwconfig wpa options properly, so it was never an option
[01:17] <Jerem1> bluefox82, i would just like to be able to use the cdrom, floppy any zip drive on this machine
[01:17] <noobcook> lolooks promising
[01:17] <FunnyMan3595> noobcook: Installation/OverSSH looks like a possibility, that gives you the command line instructions.
[01:17] <Jsm06> cheers bimberi
[01:17] <bimberi> Jsm06: np :)
[01:17] <bobbyd> noobcook: and you installed ubuntu? or you just booted the installation disc?
[01:17] <noobcook> i tried to boot the install disk
[01:17] <FunnyMan3595> noobcook: Or even /FromKnoppix
[01:17] <bluefox83> Jerem1, what seems to be the problem then?
[01:17] <noobcook> i got to desktop once with about 500 boot option commands but it froze
[01:18] <noobcook> ive got a linux terminal installed on my laptop atm which i really like
[01:18] <noobcook> its so full of infomation
[01:18] <Klark_Kent> wow, i removed apache, and php, reinstalled it, and still doesn't work
[01:18] <user01_> i have a laptop with a radeon 7500 card and when i plug in the monitor i see my lcd screen except the dvd windows is black on video playback (it is there on lcd) and any visualisation elements do not work
[01:18] <Klark_Kent> shouldn't that have fixed it?
[01:18] <Klark_Kent> as that worked other times
[01:18] <Mikey> BULLE: all my options i put in that /etc/network/interface file, and then ifup it :)
[01:18] <Jerem1> bluefox83, when i attempt to access any of those drives, i get an error saying... "Unable to Mount Drive" or "Drive does not exist".............. even though it clearly does because Ubuntu recognizes that the drive is there
[01:19] <bobbyd> noobcook: you could just use the alternate install cd and install the server version of ubuntu, then install the desktop aftwards, that might be easier than some complex ssh install
[01:19] <BULLE> Mikey: ye, its the prefered way nowadays
[01:19] <bobbyd> noobcook: the alternate install has a non-graphical installer
[01:19] <BULLE> Mikey: i just use wpa_supplicant to manage all the wlans for me, its simplest imho
[01:19] <bluefox83> Jerem1, check your mount points... if you put a cd in the cdrom try mount /dev/cdrom /cdrom
[01:19] <BULLE> Mikey: dunno if it works with the rt2500 driver though
[01:19] <noobcook> i dont like Gui but i realise i need it as my terminal doesn't have umm lynx
[01:19] <kusch> is there anybody who wants to help a new ubuntu-user?
[01:19] <bluefox83> Jerem1, sometimes it's /dev/hdc
[01:19] <FunnyMan3595> bobbyd: Have fun with noobcook, I gotta run.  Late clases, gotta hate 'em.
[01:19] <noobcook> but ok ill look at this install first then try dling the server cd
[01:20] <noobcook> cya funnyman thanks for help
[01:20] <FunnyMan3595> !bye | FunnyMan3595
[01:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bye - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:20] <FunnyMan3595> Stupid bot.
[01:20] <FunnyMan3595> :)
[01:20] <noobcook> lol
[01:20] <Jerem1> bluefox83, may I PM you?
[01:20] <socorrista_ach> Jerem1 u have too edit some files
[01:20] <bluefox83> Jerem1, yeah, that would make life a little easier...
[01:20] <lynucs> !xrdp
[01:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xrdp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:20] <socorrista_ach> to mount another hard drive
[01:21] <bluefox83> socorrista_ach, he's only trying to mount cdrom/floppy/zip
[01:21] <socorrista_ach> oh
[01:21] <socorrista_ach> sorry
[01:21] <socorrista_ach> misread it
[01:21] <Spee_Der> Ok folks, wish me luck with the new video card install . . . . .  wooohooo ! ! !
[01:21] <Mikey> BULLE: thankyou i was looking for wpa_supplicant, can i get it with apt-get?
[01:21] <Spee_Der> And thanks for the help also ! ! ! !
[01:21] <Valentine> Still unable to access even the boot to cd functionality due to fubarred graphics. GeForce 6600, AMD64. Tried both 6.10 and Feisty in multiple resolutions, depths and both regular and safe mode.
[01:21] <xerog> ...
[01:21] <bobbyd> noobcook: http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/releases.ubuntu.com/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso
[01:22] <socorrista_ach> bluefox83 can u tell me out too put gDesklets too start with ubuntu?
[01:22] <noobcook> what do i download desktop cd or server cd?
[01:22] <noobcook> o wait
[01:22] <noobcook> that obvious
[01:22] <noobcook> desktop
[01:22] <noobcook> i was reading wrong =)
[01:22] <socorrista_ach> lol
[01:22] <Mikey> noobcook: dl the alternate CD
[01:22] <bobbyd> noobcook: no, the alternate
[01:22] <Mikey> ;)
[01:22] <noobcook> haha
[01:22] <noobcook> ok
[01:22] <bobbyd> noobcook: I gave you the link :)
[01:22] <bluefox83> socorrista_ach, i haven't really messed with gdesklets much, all i know to do is start it up manually...
[01:22] <noobcook> ah thanks
[01:22] <noobcook> didnt see
[01:23] <Valentine> so no one here can tell me how to get the initial boot to desktop cd working with a standard video card?
[01:23] <kusch> seveas, i have a simple question.
[01:23] <Maje> Valentine: what is your video card?
[01:23] <noobcook> BUT ITS 700 MEGS
[01:23] <noobcook> ARGHHHHH
[01:23] <bobbyd> noobcook: if that's slow find the same file on a server closer to you from the Ubuntu website
[01:23] <Valentine> GeForce 6600
[01:23] <socorrista_ach> bluefox83 cant u just put programs of your choice too start up automatically?
[01:23] <bobbyd> noobcook: what's your net connection speed?
[01:23] <Maje> Valentine: What happens when you try booting to the CD?
[01:23] <Mikey> noobcook: have you got dialup?
[01:23] <noobcook> adsl 256k
[01:23] <noobcook> lol
[01:23] <bluefox83> Valentine, should be as simple as put the cd in, reboot, then select boot from cd...
[01:23] <noobcook> 700megs takes like 5 or 6 hrs
[01:23] <bluefox83> socorrista_ach, probably
[01:24] <noobcook> until my brother can hack my modem i wont have any downloading joy
[01:24] <Valentine> Maje: I get the initial boot screen, if I chooose the 1st bbot option I get a scren ov vertical black, green and white bars
[01:24] <Mikey> noobcook: awwww unlucky, its worth it tho, i dled normal, burned, found out i needed alternate argh
[01:24] <Ralt1> dxdt: restarted network, and restarted router.  Still not working.
[01:24] <noobcook> is there a terminal alternative?
[01:24] <bobbyd> noobcook: there is a smaller install, but you'll need all that stuff anyway, so just download it and try tomorrow :)
[01:24] <noobcook> nooooo
[01:24] <Valentine> maje: if I then use different resolutions, colour depths and modes (ie safe/normal) I get closer to the actual images
[01:24] <socorrista_ach> i need it too..i had too download both
[01:24] <noobcook> 1 last try before i do it
[01:24] <bobbyd> noobcook: you could try the ssh install
[01:24] <Valentine> but they are still fractured and duplicated
[01:24] <dxdt> Ralth, eek  hmm
[01:25] <bobbyd> noobcook:  but it'll probably be messy :)
[01:25] <bluefox83> Valentine, check the cd to make sure it's working right, if it's not that, then you might try using the alternate cd, install the server option, then apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:25] <noobcook> meh
[01:25] <Maje> Valentine: It sounds like your resolution is b0rked.
[01:25] <Valentine> shucks, I just want to test drive it
[01:25] <Maje> Valentine: What type of screen are you using?
[01:25] <noobcook> bobbyd are u sure i cant copy the cd to my hd then install from that?
[01:25] <bluefox83> ah
[01:26] <bobbyd> noobcook: probably somehow, but I don't know how :)
[01:26] <noobcook> i WILL find out how
[01:26] <Valentine> Maje: I have 2x iiyama Prolite E431S tft
[01:26] <bobbyd> noobcook: when you do, post it on the forum :)
[01:26] <Maje> Valentine: I had that problem, or close to it when I changed from an LCD to a CRT screen...
[01:26] <Mikey> noobcook: start the dl, youll find that in the end youll need it
[01:26] <bobbyd> Valentine: is this a laptop?
[01:26] <bluefox83> Valentine, my girlfriend's sytem was having a similar problem with the 4400 card..but i use the 5500 and i don't have any problems..
[01:26] <Valentine> neg, desktop
[01:26] <noobcook> ill run the download over tnoight
[01:26] <noobcook> in the morning itl be done
[01:26] <lufis> In top there's a column for "memory" and "virtual memory" - what's the difference?
[01:26] <bluefox83> *system
[01:26] <noobcook> i hate not having net for a day coz of some lepracy download
[01:27] <Mikey> lol
[01:27] <bobbyd> noobcook: I wasn't aware you could download lepracy
[01:27] <bluefox83> lufis, virtual memory is basically a swap file used to temporarily store data on the hard disk
[01:27] <noobcook> lol bobbyd
[01:27] <noobcook> would this work
[01:27] <noobcook> "wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists...> ect "
[01:27] <lufis> bluefox83: ah, and memory is actual ram?
[01:27] <bluefox83> lufis, bingo
[01:27] <Valentine> ah well, guess I'll give linux another 3-5 years....
[01:27] <lufis> bluefox83: thanks
[01:28] <Maje> Valentine, it really sounds like the same problem I had moving to an LCD screen
[01:28] <bluefox83> Valentine, shouldn't be that hard man..try resetting your bios or something, i never tried that with hers...
[01:28] <bobbyd> noobcook: work to do what? get the iso? yes, but you'll have to burn it from your linux install then
[01:28] <Valentine> ersetting my bios?
[01:28] <Maje> Valentine: Which was my resolution being completely out of sync with the screen itself
[01:28] <noobcook> drat u should be able to just pick what you need to install not have to download a whole thing
[01:28] <bluefox83> Valentine, boot into your bios, and select reset to default
[01:28] <Valentine> maje: ok, any work arounds?
[01:28] <Jsm06> stupid question
[01:29] <noobcook> its like beer u drink all the water in beer just to get to the 5% alcohol ><
[01:29] <Maje> Valentine: One of the drawbacks of the LiveCD is not being able to configure things...
[01:29] <Jsm06> How would i accept the liscnece aggreement when installing java
[01:29] <JosefK> Jsm06: what did you try to install using?
[01:29] <bobbyd> Valentine: you've been very unlucky
[01:29] <Valentine> gotcha, I'd not mind slapping a 20 gig partition on there, but the machines not geared for it
[01:29] <bluefox83> Jsm06, you would click the "I agree" button...
[01:29] <JosefK> Jsm06: that jvm install breaks in adept at least
[01:29] <Maje> Valentine: You just had the 1-out-of-20 chance of the LiveCD not working
[01:29] <bobbyd> noobcook: you can do that with a minimal install CD that's available somewhere, but basically it'll just download most of the stuff on the D when you install ubuntu-desktop
[01:29] <Valentine> ie I diodnt plan on a free 20 gig partition and no, I am not starting out with a low level format ;)
[01:29] <overridex> what's the option to glxgears to make it show the fps?
[01:29] <n2diy> Jsm06: scroll down until the ok button is available.
[01:29] <bluefox83> Valentine, how old is that machine?
[01:29] <xopher> Jsm06, press enter untill 100%, then write in 'yes' and press enter again?
[01:30] <Maje> Sorry, man.
[01:30] <Valentine> couple years max
[01:30] <qsdfghjk> howto flush dns cache ?
[01:30] <Valentine> any kind of partition rejigger out there?
[01:30] <Jsm06> Mm i ll go try using the packagemanager instead of the console
[01:30] <JosefK> Jsm06: tab then enter, then tab, select 'yes' then enter - that's if you did it using apt-get/aptitude
[01:30] <JosefK> Jsm06: it's fine in the console
[01:30] <riotkittie> just use a few free gigs ;p
[01:30] <bluefox83> Valentine, the installer has a partition editor on it called gparted
[01:30] <Valentine> cant see the installer
[01:30] <bluefox83> point made...
[01:30] <Valentine> it be al garbled yarrrrr
[01:31] <Valentine> lol ;)
[01:31] <bobbyd> Valentine: don't know if "parted"or a derivative is available for windows
[01:31] <Valentine> googling
[01:31] <bluefox83> Valentine, does your monitor have a button to automatically resync everything?
[01:31] <aliasxerog> yes
[01:31] <aliasxerog> it fixed my problem
[01:32] <noobcook> bobbyd whats the command to copy everything in a directory eg for windows its d:/*.*
[01:32] <aliasxerog> cp
[01:32] <Valentine> I have an 'aoto configure' bluefox
[01:32] <aliasxerog> use that
[01:32] <n2diy> noobcook: /*
[01:32] <bobbyd> noobcook: cp -r dir/ somewhere/
[01:33] <noobcook> thanks
[01:33] <bluefox83> Valentine, on the monitor itself?
[01:33] <Valentine> blue: yes
[01:33] <noobcook> this is gona take all day lol
[01:33] <Valentine> boot to cd, hit auto configure and see?
[01:33] <kusch> the console doesnt work. is the another option?
[01:33] <bobbyd> noobcook: google for dos to linux translations, there are a few simple tables of equiavalent commands out there
[01:33] <noobcook> ok cool
[01:33] <bluefox83> Valentine, try pushing it when you get to the garbled part..one time i booted into the live cd and everything was sideways and kinda crumbly, i pushed my auto button and it sorted everything out nicely
[01:34] <Valentine> ok, ta blue, be back soon :)
[01:34] <bluefox83> ok
[01:34] <aliasxerog> I hope that helps him
[01:34] <Tenric> Hey, Nipple.
[01:34] <Tenric> how do I find out what graphics card I have?
[01:34] <aliasxerog> open it up
[01:35] <JosefK> lspci | grep -i VGA
[01:35] <Enverex> Tenric, "lspci" should give you some idea
[01:35] <Enverex> look for VGA
[01:35] <n2diy> Tenric: lshw
[01:35] <noobcook> i did cp -r /cdrom /home
[01:35] <noobcook> this will hopefully work
[01:35] <aliasxerog> Tentric: Why do you need to know
[01:35] <noobcook> AH ive worked out how to do it bobbyd =D
[01:35] <mnoir> lspci|grep VGA
[01:36] <bluefox83> hey windows users...does windows have a "lock screen" feature like linux that will let you keep anyone from using your machine till a password is entered?
[01:36] <ciscosurfer> I've got an interesting problem...
[01:36] <orudie> hey all, just installed vmware and ubuntu for the first time, having trouble getting internet in ubuntu
[01:36] <bluefox83> and i don't mean the logout screen
[01:36] <mnoir> rogue780: that last from me was for you and Tenric
[01:36] <noobcook> boot off the cd when ur at the splash you go boot options and change the directory your installing from lol =)
[01:36] <tirus89> h3xis, you here?
[01:36] <jewbilee> bluefox: yea, of course
[01:36] <ciscosurfer> I keep getting this error:  "Video codec 'MSS2' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies"
[01:36] <ciscosurfer> I have w32codecs installed...what do I need to do to get these files to work?
[01:36] <milo> test
[01:37] <bobbyd> noobcook: maybe that'll work, not sure though
[01:37] <mnoir> milo: did i pass?
[01:37] <kusch> HOW I INSTALL DOWNLOADED FILES WITHOUT TERMINAL? BECAUSE THE TERMINAL SEEMS NOT WORK
[01:37] <mnoir> kusch: stop shouting
[01:37] <Music_Shuffle> !caps
[01:37] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:37] <n2diy> ! caps
[01:37] <bobbyd> !caps
[01:37] <ciscosurfer> kusch: you can download on the web
[01:37] <bluefox83> jewbilee, how do you do that? my gf is sending a file to someone but wants to leave the house, and it's looking like it'll take a few hours for the file to send..she doesn't want anyone accidentally canceling her filesend
[01:37] <ciscosurfer> kusch: packages.ubuntu.com
[01:37] <kusch> what download
[01:37] <bobbyd> kush: what are you trying to install?
[01:37] <Maje> kusch: you can download and doubleclick them
[01:38] <Tenric> Man.  ATI Technologies Inc unknown device
[01:38] <Maje> kusch: And anyway, why won't the terminal work?
[01:38] <kusch> i try to install a tar.gz file
[01:38] <riotkittie> i would  die if i broke teh terminal
[01:38] <ciscosurfer> kusch: sorry, misread your question
[01:38] <kusch> its a plugin
[01:38] <bobbyd> kush: but *what* is it?
[01:38] <kusch> but how without terminal?
[01:38] <Tenric> mnoir: It says unknown device
[01:38] <jewbilee> bluefox: check the pm
[01:38] <bluefox83> kusch, tar.gz is not a file to be installed, it's a compressed file..you need to open it
[01:38] <kusch> it a plugin fpr opera: libflashplayer.so
[01:39] <ciscosurfer> Can anyone help me out with my question??
[01:39] <riotkittie> tar -xvf <that>.gz
[01:39] <bobbyd> kusch: double click the file, read the instructions
[01:39] <mnoir> kusch: trust me - you want to do this in a terminal...
[01:39] <jewbilee> bluefox: well chat in the PM, to keep this channel ubuntu only
[01:39] <bobbyd> kush: if it's flash player 9 beta
[01:39] <gus> riotkittie, u missing a z
[01:39] <ciscosurfer> kusch: you can do it via a GUI by running ALT-F2 and entering in 'gksudo nautilus' (no single quotes)
[01:39] <kusch> yes flash player 9
[01:40] <gus> :)
[01:40] <mnoir> !ati | tengil sounds like it may be a driver issue...
[01:40] <ubotu> tengil sounds like it may be a driver issue...: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:40] <mnoir> tengil: sorry - wrong person
[01:40] <ciscosurfer> Need help with a video problem...
[01:40] <ciscosurfer> c'mon guys...
[01:41] <kusch> everytime when the terminal ask the password, it failed
[01:41] <riotkittie> gus: really? today was the first way i tried that ;p  and it worked for me. but perhaps it was a fluke
[01:41] <bobbyd> kusch: you're not listening
[01:41] <riotkittie> i had been > gunzip <file>  then tar xvf'ing
[01:41] <gus> riotkittie, yup z means it's a gz file :)
[01:41] <riotkittie> brb. wanna see something
[01:41] <Jerem1> can anybody help me to get my floppy and zip drives working... i get an error that says "unable to mount" and "drive does not exist"..... how can I correct this?   Please PM me!
[01:42] <adaptr> kusch: if you don't have a working terminal then you could well be said not to have a working system
[01:42] <Enverex> Jerem1, Are you trying the mount the right thing?
[01:42] <cntb> cna anybody help me download dvd edgy faster ?
[01:42] <varsendaggr> ciscosurfer, what is the type of file that you are trying to play?
[01:42] <rance> I need to ask for help with sound on ubuntu, Ive tried all the howto tricks I can try with TWO different sound cards, and no matter what I do, I dont get sound, the right kernel modules load, and everything *APPEARS* to be setup correctly, but yet no sound, right now I have an aopen cobra aw-850 5.1 surround sound card installed and just like the stock sound card, no sound output at speakers
[01:42] <adaptr> cntb: erm.. no?
[01:42] <cntb> here is a link pls
[01:42] <ciscosurfer> I keep getting this error:  "Video codec 'MSS2' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies"
[01:42] <mnoir> riotkittie: tar supports al the good compressions
[01:42] <gus> does someone know how to know which chip does my wifi card have ? without opening my lappy :P
[01:42] <kusch> thanks for help :-(
[01:42] <cntb> adaptr: ?
[01:42] <BULLE> cntb: buy a faster internet connection ?
[01:42] <adaptr> cntb: download the CD and install whatever you need over the Internet
[01:42] <cntb> bulle 750K
[01:42] <ciscosurfer> varsendaggr: it's a wmv extenstion but I keep getting the error I listed above about 'mss2'
[01:42] <Jerem1> Enverex, I'm new..... i'm not sure what I'm doing.............sorry
[01:43] <cntb> adaptr: wrong
[01:43] <BULLE> wrong ?
[01:43] <ciscosurfer> varsendaggr: and I have w32codecs installed and all other video files work just fine
[01:43] <BULLE> its the best way
[01:43] <cntb> doing that for months adaptr
[01:43] <bobbyd> kush: http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/
[01:43] <adaptr> cntb: okay, bye bye
[01:43] <varsendaggr> ahhh...   are you playing it with mplayer or what?
[01:43] <cntb> I know how to doit
[01:43] <BULLE> cntb: so buy faster internet connection then
[01:43] <varsendaggr> only .wma  don't work?
[01:43] <BULLE> cntb: there is no magic, you cant get stuff down to your computer faster then your internet connection is
[01:43] <Mikey> lmao, i apt-getted lynx and im browsing the web, in ascii hahahhaha this is ace
[01:43] <riotkittie> nope. i just tarred then gzipped... and i dont have to add a z to options
[01:44] <ciscosurfer> varsendaggr: vlc and kaffeine will play the file, but I get audio only....all other players completely "dud out"
[01:44] <mnoir> riotkittie: why?  tar supports all the good compressions coming and going
[01:44] <Maje> lynx = awesome
[01:44] <cntb> bulle  my intention is to install  many many times
[01:44] <riotkittie> mnoir: why what ?
[01:44] <BULLE> cntb: yes, so download the whole dvd then
[01:44] <cntb> so I need installs locally bulle
[01:44] <cas3> links = awesome
[01:44] <orudie> hey all, just installed vmware and ubuntu for the first time, having trouble getting internet in ubuntu
[01:44] <cntb> tyvm BULLE
[01:44] <cas3> elinks 4 life
[01:44] <mnoir> riotkittie: why se[arate tar and gzip?
[01:44] <BULLE> cntb: yes, and what doyou think we can do about the speed of your internet conections ?
[01:44] <orudie> which networking settings should i use in vmware?
[01:44] <mnoir> [=p
[01:44] <riotkittie> elinks = awesomer
[01:44] <cntb> now you understand BULLE
[01:45] <cntb> we ?
[01:45] <Ferret> cntb: Just use a mirror that's near to you, for example if you lived in Israel you'd use http://ubuntu.interhost.co.il/
[01:45] <BULLE> cntb: should we all join hands and prey to god, so that you get a faster internet connection ?
[01:45] <cntb> tyvm Ferret
[01:45] <tirus89> h3xis, ?
[01:45] <riotkittie> mnoir: well.   uh. because i am clueless of course. but  as of earlier this afternoon, i stopped seperating them.
[01:45] <cntb> sure it has edgy dvds Ferret ?
[01:45] <h3xis> tirus89
[01:45] <mnoir> riotkittie: oic...
[01:45] <cntb> Ferret:  ?
[01:46] <ciscosurfer> varsendaggr: this is all that's listed on the web that I can find:: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+video+codec+mss2
[01:46] <tirus89> h3xis, im back, with a low level wipped drive
[01:46] <stormchas3r> how do I set my JAVA_HOME for ganttproject?
[01:46] <mnoir> riotkittie: in a fit of intuitiveness, j meanz bzip in tar  :)
[01:46] <ciscosurfer> varsendaggr: and those links don't help out
[01:46] <cntb> Ferret:  busy ?
[01:46] <mnoir> stormchas3r: export it in yer .bashrc
[01:46] <stormchas3r> mnoir, no idea how to?
[01:46] <Ferret> cntb: Nah, but you get the idea... go to http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download?action=show&redirect=downloadand scroll down to the continents list and click around until you find one that has the dvd versions
[01:47] <mnoir> stormchas3r: edit the file and look for other export stmts and copy, modify.  backup your .bashrc first
[01:47] <stormchas3r> mnoir, ty
[01:48] <mnoir> stormchas3r: pls report sucess or questions :)
[01:48] <stormchas3r> kk
[01:48] <riotkittie> brb. booting into zen. i wish there was a chance xubuntu'd run so well on this box.
[01:48] <cntb> ok Ferret http://ubuntu.interhost.co.il/ has not shown DVDs
[01:48] <cyris> hey where does cron log to? /var/log/messages ?
[01:48] <noobcook> oops
[01:48] <h3xis> tirus89, did ubuntu install?
[01:49] <noobcook> hey bobbyd u still here?
[01:49] <cntb> so my link for now is --- http://cargol.net/~ramon/ubuntu-dvd-en
[01:49] <cntb> please check it out and join
[01:49] <noobcook> anyone know the com line for installing ubuntu from the hardrive at splash?
[01:49] <tirus89> h3xis, i dunno, im really woozie from my dad using wood dye-ing products that i cant see well
[01:49] <varsendaggr> ciscosurfer, https://trac.videolan.org/vlc/query?format=rss&type=enhancement&order=priority
[01:49] <h3xis> tirus89, haha
[01:49] <ciscosurfer> varsendaggr: thanks, I will take a look!
[01:50] <Ferret> cntb: The only one I know is the official one then, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/release/ -- http and torrent downloads
[01:50] <noobcook> anyone?
[01:50] <bobbyd> noobcook: that won't work btw :)
[01:50] <noobcook> damnit
[01:50] <tirus89> h3xis, i dunno, about to scrap this comp, and get a recycle from my school
[01:50] <noobcook> why =(
[01:50] <cntb> ferret any DVDs there ?
[01:50] <Ferret> cntb: It's all dvds, just click it
[01:50] <varsendaggr> do a control f mms2       -  it is some kind of capture screen codec....
[01:50] <cyris> im trying to cron a script to run every minute, anyone see a problem with this? 1 * * * * /root/scripting/file_manager
[01:50] <bobbyd> noobcook: it's not possible, all you cn do from boot on the desktop CD is load a kernel
[01:50] <bluefox83> noobcook, i *think* it's simply "server"
[01:50] <h3xis> tirus89, might do well
[01:50] <cntb> k
[01:51] <Ferret> cyris: That looks more like 1:01, 2:01, 3:01
[01:51] <Ferret> cyris: Surely every minute would have a * in the first column too.
[01:51] <orudie> whats a good irc client for ubuntu ?
[01:51] <mnoir> cyris: that would run at the 1 minnit, every hour
[01:51] <cyris> Ferret: ah your right, thanks man
[01:51] <h3xis> orudie, xchat
[01:51] <orudie> tnx
[01:51] <bluefox83> orudie, xchat, don't use xchat-gnome though it sucks really bad...
[01:51] <noobcook> file=/home/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper initrd=/casper/initrd.gz ramdisk_size=1048576 root=/dev/ram rw quiet splash --
[01:51] <Mikey> you know what lynx was made for??? ascii p0rn, fits perfectly haha (sorry)
[01:51] <noobcook> would that work ^
[01:51] <tirus89> h3xis, i dunno, i wanna get off of ebay, but kinda dont trust some of the stuff, and the places up here want an arm and leg for 40 gig
[01:52] <Vluid> hi everybosy
[01:52] <cntb> Ferret: ?
[01:52] <cntb> pls pay attn
[01:52] <cntb>   Ubuntu universe, multiverse and restricted (DVD 1/3)  and the  list  of packages.
[01:52] <Vluid> has anybody an idea how to post collections of files in binary newsgroups?
[01:52] <cntb> on my link
[01:52] <tirus89> h3xis, i keep getting the mount error on "block (1,0), wtf does that mean
[01:53] <h3xis> tirus89, is this the same drive?
[01:53] <bobbyd> noobcook: I'm off to bed, good luck
[01:53] <tirus89> h3xis, yesh
[01:53] <noobcook> nite
[01:53] <h3xis> tirus89, it's probably bad
[01:53] <JohnnyX_> i opened synaptic and it said  linux-image*etc* is broken so i removed it and installed the next version
[01:53] <tirus89> h3xis, yarg
[01:53] <JohnnyX_> will this ruin my syste?
[01:53] <JohnnyX_> system
[01:53] <noobcook> anyone wana take over =p is it possible to do an ubuntu install from hardrive?
[01:53] <Vluid> im using newspost and i can post single files, but this is for a huge amount of files quite annoying
[01:54] <cntb> what about   Ubuntu universe, multiverse and restricted  in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/release/ ferret ?
[01:55] <JohnnyX_> it happend when i installed gnome-common-utils
[01:55] <JohnnyX_> and then it said the package was broken
[01:55] <evensourcelabs> i have downloaded many more programs than appear in my menus!
[01:55] <noobcook> anyone?
[01:55] <evensourcelabs> help!
[01:55] <JohnnyX_> this happend before and i lost everything
[01:55] <cntb> noobcook:  patience
[01:55] <JohnnyX_> can someone help me so i know i wont loose everything as soon as i turn my laptop off
[01:55] <noobcook> ok =)
[01:55] <cntb>  I also am looking for a way to do that
[01:56] <evensourcelabs> someone please help me
[01:56] <cntb> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/release/ pointed by Ferret,  noobcook
[01:56] <noobcook> cntb so far ive got the ubuntu cd copied to /home/cdrom but now i just need to work out how to boot it
[01:56] <noobcook> ok
[01:56] <noelferreira> how can i remove the desktop icon from hda2 that is mounted on /media/hda2. without removing it from the media directory?
[01:56] <Vluid> no idea??
[01:56] <ciscosurfer> varsendaggr: I'm PM'ed you
[01:57] <ciscosurfer> I've
[01:57] <Ferret> cntb: I said I don't know anything more about it. :)
[01:57] <cntb> noobcook: wrong not copied mounted
[01:57] <clayg> how difficult is it getting compiz running w/ dapper/gnome?
[01:57] <cntb> ok maybe copied
[01:57] <orudie> ok just downloaded xchat2.8.bz and extracted it, what do i do next to install it?
[01:57] <noobcook> yeh i copied it
[01:57] <noobcook> i checked the dir aswell
[01:57] <Mikey> can i get fluxbox with apt-get?
[01:58] <Mikey> and how can i search apt-get repository?
[01:58] <JohnnyX_> Mikey,
[01:58] <JohnnyX_> apt-cache search
[01:58] <Vluid> Mikey:synaptic
[01:58] <finer> mikey: type synaptic
[01:58] <noobcook> cntb that link you gave me is for the live cd and its 3.5gigs
[01:58] <JohnnyX_> i think he meants from the command line
[01:58] <Mikey> no gui :(
[01:58] <Vluid> mikey aptitude
[01:58] <finer> use aptitude then
[01:58] <JohnnyX_> apt-cache search "phrase" Mikey
[01:59] <Vluid> apt-file search
[01:59] <JohnnyX_> sudo apt-cache search that is
[01:59] <Mikey> in "" ?
[01:59] <finer> a terminal
[01:59] <Vluid> apt-get install apt-file
[01:59] <cntb> ok noobcook sorry
[01:59] <JohnnyX_> say you were searching for xmms  sudo apt-cache search xmms
[01:59] <Vluid> sudo apt-file update
[01:59] <orudie> how do i open a terminal in ubuntu?
[01:59] <Vluid> apt-file search <what you search>
[01:59] <noobcook> alt f1
[02:00] <noobcook> or f2 f3 or something
[02:00] <JohnnyX_> from what window manager orudie
[02:00] <clayg> orudie, in gnome app>acc>terminal
[02:00] <finer> applications > accesories > terminal
[02:00] <JohnnyX_> or do you mean in the tty1
[02:00] <noelferreira> how can i remove the desktop icon from hda2 that is mounted on /media/hda2. without removing it from the media directory?
[02:00] <clayg> or ctrl-f1
[02:00] <DarthLappy> JohnnyX_: You don't need sudo for apt-cache
[02:00] <clayg> thru f5 or 6
[02:00] <JohnnyX_> i just do it out of habit i guess
[02:00] <cge> JohnnyX_: It isn't a good habit.
[02:01] <JohnnyX_> probably not
[02:01] <Mikey> doent find anything on fluxbox :S
[02:01] <noobcook> does anyone know, what files are the files used at the ubuntu boot install cd?
[02:01] <orudie> clayg: i just installed ubuntu for the first time, downoaded xchat and extracted it, now i'm in xchat2.8.0 - file broser, installation instructions say make install
[02:01] <JohnnyX_> Mikey, have you tried xfce?
[02:01] <orudie> clayg: so i guess i have to make install from the terminal?
[02:01] <cge> noobcook: Why do you wish to know, and are you referring to the livecd or the alternate cd?
[02:01] <clayg> yeah
[02:01] <clayg> but you are already using it  , if we are speaking
[02:01] <L0cKd0wN> anyone know how to add the Terminal to the right-click menu ?
[02:02] <orudie> clayg: this is my other computer
[02:02] <noobcook> to the ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386 cd
[02:02] <orudie> windows
[02:02] <JohnnyX_> is anyone really good with wine?
[02:02] <cge> L0cKd0wN: Do you mean in the same way that it used to be in older versions of nautilus?
[02:02] <clayg> you don't have to "make"/compile it
[02:02] <finer> ./quit
[02:02] <clayg> you can just sudo apt-get it or open up synaptic
[02:02] <JohnnyX_> i bought this digital eyepiece so i can connect a spotting scope to my laptop but the installation cd is for windows of course
[02:02] <L0cKd0wN> cge, im new to ubuntu completely, so dunno heh
[02:02] <clayg> if you need to build/make/compile it, you need /shoudl grab a package called build-essentials
[02:03] <cge> L0cKd0wN: Oh, I thought you were asking for a specific behaviour which was present in nautilus a few years ago.
[02:03] <JohnnyX_> if you get xfce L0cKd0wN its on there
[02:03] <L0cKd0wN> cge: i used to use red hat fedora, and i recall being able to install something which places the Terminal in the right click menu
[02:03] <SanityInAnarchy> hmm...  alright, strange question: I've got an Ubuntu install/livecd running on my Powerbook, which has a broken screen, but it works when I plug in a monitor with DVI... except Ubuntu doesn't seem to see the monitor out of the box
[02:03] <JohnnyX_> but im pretty sure thats on the forums
[02:03] <cge> L0cKd0wN: Ah yes, so you are referring to that.
[02:04] <Jsm06> !ati
[02:04] <L0cKd0wN> cge: and since gnome is gnome on any distro.... i was assuming ubuntu had something like what i was referring to :)
[02:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:04] <Mikey> JohnnyX_: it seems that i cant apt-get install xfce (but i really want fluxbox becasue its small
[02:04] <cge> L0cKd0wN: I'm not sure how to solve it, though I would like to know as well. I wilil look into it.
[02:04] <evensourcelabs> can someone HELP ME
[02:04] <JohnnyX_> xfce is small as well Mikey
[02:04] <L0cKd0wN> cge, ok cool, i'll keep googling :D
[02:04] <JohnnyX_> and much prettier imo
[02:04] <kyncani> !someone | evensourcelabs
[02:04] <ubotu> evensourcelabs: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:04] <Jarrett> Hi, I have a question about hard drive partitions when installing ubuntu.
[02:04] <L0cKd0wN> JohnnyX_, im not low on system resources, don't need to run xfce... hehe
[02:04] <JohnnyX_> sudo apt-get install xfce4 Mikey
[02:05] <cge> L0cKd0wN: This isn't quite what the old behaviour was, but http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/12/29/right-click-to-launch-custom-scripts-with-nautilus-ubuntu-6061-610/ might work.
[02:05] <JohnnyX_> im not either localghost
[02:05] <JohnnyX_> L0cKd0wN*
[02:05] <SanityInAnarchy> so two questions:  Is there a livecd that'll work here? And if not, what would be the easiest way to ssh in?
[02:05] <JohnnyX_> i just think its the best looking desktop enviroment
[02:05] <L0cKd0wN> cge: thanks :)
[02:05] <JohnnyX_> especially with the xfce4-dusk theme
[02:05] <cge> Mikey: Then why not just install fluxbox?
[02:05] <mnoir> Jarrett: and what IS your question about hard drive partitions when installing ubuntu?
[02:05] <L0cKd0wN> dusk?
[02:05] <JohnnyX_> xfce4-dusk
[02:05] <Mikey> cge: it doesnt find it on apt-get
[02:05] <JohnnyX_> its a theme
[02:05] <Jarrett> I'd like to dual-boot Windows and Ubuntu, but I'm wondering if it's possible to resize the existing Windows partition without messing naythingup.
[02:05] <cge> Mikey: one minute
[02:05] <Jarrett> anything*
[02:06] <evensourcelabs> ok
[02:06] <L0cKd0wN> got a screenie? :)
[02:06] <cge> Mikey: Do you have the universe repositories enabled?
[02:06] <evensourcelabs> why dont all my programs show up in the menu
[02:06] <SanityInAnarchy> Jarrett:  yes. I don't know if the installer will do this for you (I think it will), but there are ways.
[02:06] <riotkittie> Jarrett: yes
[02:06] <mnoir> Jarrett: yes, after you compress and maintain the win part in win and back it up
[02:06] <Mikey> cge: i dont know, im running cli btw
[02:06] <steelb> what are some alternatives to GAIM for AIM?
[02:06] <Mikey> cge: say if i dont, how would i enable it?
[02:06] <L0cKd0wN> Jarrett, yes I used Partition Magic 8.0 to resize windows
[02:06] <riotkittie> the installer will see you win partition and set up your dual boot fine. or at least it should.
[02:06] <Przemcio78> hooray, my internet connection is 2 times faster :DDD
[02:06] <kyncani> Jarrett: you can resize your win partition from the ubuntu install cd
[02:06] <cge> Mikey: I presume that you are relatively competent at CLI use?
[02:07] <riotkittie> ewww. partition magic is the root of all evil
[02:07] <noelferreira> how can i remove the desktop icon from hda2 that is mounted on /media/hda2. without removing it from the media directory?
[02:07] <Przemcio78> sorry, wrong channel
[02:07] <evensourcelabs>  why dont all my programs show up in the menu
[02:07] <dougsko> what algorithm does ubuntu use for its password files? and is there a built in app to encrypt plaintext using that algo?
[02:07] <riotkittie> the gparted live cd is love ;p
[02:07] <Mikey> cga: relativly hehe, yea, everythings relative
[02:07] <Jarrett> Alright then.. hopefully the installer will do it, since I don't have Partition Magic
[02:07] <cge> Jarrett: The installer will do the first part for you, but might not do to second part.
[02:07] <Jarrett> thanks :)
[02:07] <evensourcelabs> PLEASE
[02:07] <cge> s/to//
[02:07] <mnoir> Jarrett: look into the gparted live cd - it is very nice
[02:08] <evensourcelabs> OMG
[02:08] <Jarrett> cge: You mean it might not be able to resize the partition then?
[02:08] <Jarrett> mnoir: Alright
[02:08] <cge> Mikey: Then edit /etc/apt/sources.list, and uncomment the lines for universe.
[02:08] <Mikey> cge: acctually, thats the reason why im trying to get x, because im relativly competent
[02:08] <Sakui> anyone use ATI TV capture cards in ubuntu?
[02:08] <evensourcelabs> none of you appear competent!
[02:09] <cge> Jarrett: It should be able to resize the partition, but there is no guarantee that it won't mess it up.
[02:09] <Mikey> cga: 2 lines yea?
[02:09] <noobcook> cge do you know if i can install from hardrive?
[02:09] <Jarrett> cge: :S
[02:09] <noobcook> i know theres a way i can do it but it will take a long time
[02:09] <cge> Mikey: Yes.
[02:09] <noelferreira> how can i remove the desktop icon from hda2 that is mounted on /media/hda2. without removing it from the media directory?
[02:09] <riotkittie> wow.  whatta jerk.
[02:09] <jughead> what might run Ubuntu the best (32 bit code only):  an thlon 64 X2 dual core -or- a Core 2 Duo from intel?
[02:10] <tirus89> h3xis, the weird thing is i can install windows on it
[02:10] <Jarrett> I'll definitely check out gparted, it looks like what I need
[02:10] <pyr0000> hello
[02:10] <cge> Mikey: And then, of course, you will need to run apt-get update. After that you should be able to install fluxbox or most any other window manager you prefer.
[02:10] <h3xis> tirus89, not surprised :P
[02:10] <cge> Like wmii :)
[02:10] <tirus89> h3xis, lol, explain
[02:11] <pyr0000> i need help with a fresh install of ubuntu, can some one please pm me to help
[02:11] <Mikey> cge: still nothing on search
[02:11] <h3xis> tirus89, i guess the windows install doesnt check the disk for problems
[02:11] <mag__> Can you help me with samba ? I can't see the images in the file, I try to view the information enside ubuntu but I'm usig windows
[02:11] <cge> Mikey: And you've run apt-get update?
[02:11] <DarthLappy> !anyone | pyr0000
[02:11] <ubotu> pyr0000: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:11] <cge> jughead: I would recommend the Intel CPU.
[02:11] <M0ses> Hello people
[02:11] <Mikey> cge: ah, no
[02:11] <tirus89> h3xis, hmmm, anyway to bypass that in ubuntu?
[02:11] <noobcook> hi m0ses
[02:11] <h3xis> tirus89, not that i know of
[02:11] <cge> jughead: Since Intel does a better job of supporting Linux. This is especially the case if you plan to use integrated graphics.
[02:12] <tirus89> h3xis, anyway of finding out/
[02:12] <noobcook> would anyone be able to help me with some tricky code
[02:12] <h3xis> tirus89, i guess ask here?
[02:12] <Mikey> cge: little help with the could be aprectiated
[02:12] <M0ses> I just managed to install ubuntu 6.10 alternative install in text mode
[02:12] <M0ses> it worked using tonny's advice
[02:12] <cge> Mikey: one moment, I've lost what was going on, as I usually do in here.
[02:13] <^Ocean^> IS the gnome weather applete busted ?  Or is somthin on my distro busted  ?
[02:13] <cge> Mikey: So you have run apt-get update, or you haven't?
[02:13] <mag__> Can you help me with samba ? I can't see the images in the file, I try to view the information enside ubuntu but I'm usig windows
[02:13] <Mikey> cge: no i havent
[02:13] <tirus89> anyone know how to bypass the disk check on ubuntu install and cd boot?
[02:13] <cge> Mikey: So you should run sudo apt-get update
[02:13] <mag__> Can you help me with samba ? I can't see the images in the file, I try to view the information inside ubuntu but I'm usig windows...
[02:13] <JohnnyX_> anyone know how to change the icon for xfce-screenshot
[02:13] <M0ses> ok now i need to connect to the internet...
[02:13] <JohnnyX_> it doesnt have the option in preferences
[02:13] <cge> noobcook: Possibly
[02:13] <pyr0000> ok i installed ubuntu off the livecd onto my dell c840 everything went smoothly but i cant see my network card in the network connectons area, it is in the device manager and i used bcm4318.all.tar.gz to set it up but still no lights or anthing, the weird thing is when i boot off the live cd it shows up but i am unable to connect to my network. as well when booting off the livecd some errors come up about bcm43xx but they do not come up with the
[02:13] <petka> great
[02:13] <Flannel> JohnnyX_: you might try #xubuntu, they might know
[02:13] <petka> installed xchat
[02:14] <jughead> thanks cge; I was thinking that the Core 2 might run better
[02:14] <cge> noobcook: By the way, was your previous question ever answered?
[02:14] <noobcook> nope
[02:14] <Mikey> cge: ahh, i was trying sudo apt-get selfupdate, ok, updating now...
[02:14] <JohnnyX_> oh yea
[02:14] <mag__> Can you help me with samba ? I can't see the images in the file, I try to view the information inside ubuntu but I'm usig windows...
[02:14] <Tonren> Hey guys, I'm trying to enable postfix as a send-only mail server.  I'm doing web development on a laptop connected to the web through a commercial router & cable modem.  Who can help me out?
[02:14] <Flannel> tirus89: what are you trying to do?
[02:14] <Vuen> hey guys, i'm trying to play a dvd using kaffeine, but the audio is out of sync by about half a second or so
[02:14] <JohnnyX_> i forgot they have different chans for all the desktop enviroments
[02:14] <Vuen> anyone know how i can fix it?
[02:15] <^Ocean^> Weather Report 2.16.2 Broken ?
[02:15] <tirus89> Flannel, its a install on week 2 or 3 now, i have alot of problems i wish not to retype, but i need to know to to bypass the disk check on the live cd of ubuntu edy
[02:15] <mag__> Can you help me with samba ? I can't see the images in the file, I try to view the information inside ubuntu but I'm usig windows...
[02:15] <cge> noobcook: So, why did you want to know what files were used, and when was the period of operation you were interested in?
[02:15] <Valentine> no joy =\
[02:16] <noobcook> im interested in recoding the ubuntu boot so i can put it on a floppy an use the floppy to make ubuntu install from hardrive
[02:16] <noobcook> is that possible
[02:16] <farkr> does grub keep its config files in /boot?
[02:16] <cge> noobcook: Hmm....
[02:16] <Flannel> farkr: yes
[02:16] <cge> noobcook: You should use the alternate CD for that instead of the desktop CD.
[02:16] <cge> noobcook: But it should be possible.
[02:16] <ayaz> hey guys, i used apt-get to install bitchx, where can i find the config file? their website doesnt seem to work right now either
[02:16] <Flannel> !install | noobcook, lots of different methods
[02:16] <ubotu> noobcook, lots of different methods: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[02:17] <noobcook> ive tried all that
[02:17] <Flannel> ayaz: not sure, but probably ~/.bitchx (it's either a folder or a file)
[02:17] <noobcook> acpi conflicts cause a soft lockup, top and bottom is i _cannot_ install from cd
[02:17] <cge> noobcook: Even the Installation/FromHardDriveWithFloppies?
[02:17] <ayaz> hmm i definitely checked that
[02:17] <noobcook> ive only got 1 floppy to use =p
[02:17] <Flannel> noobcook: you can always turn acpi off
[02:18] <sdgr406> the noacpi kernel parameter doesn't help?
[02:18] <noobcook> ive tried it flannel
[02:18] <noobcook> ive tried it ALL
[02:18] <noobcook> lol
[02:18] <cge> noobcook: Ouch
[02:18] <cge> noobcook: Let me think
[02:18] <noobcook> acpi_skip_timer_override
[02:18] <noobcook> ive tried acpi off
[02:18] <noobcook> irqpoll
[02:18] <noobcook> acpi aclpi
[02:18] <noobcook> acpi acpi
[02:18] <noobcook> *roar*
[02:18] <cge> noobcook: Does the computer have an easy network connection?
[02:18] <noobcook> yeh
[02:19] <jarjar26> Hi everybody, i try to compile apps on Ubuntu and  receive these error: configure: error: unable to find the GNOME libraries
[02:19] <cge> noobcook: How experienced are you with Linux?
[02:19] <noobcook> ive currently got a linux terminal installed on it thats 100% complete
[02:19] <Flannel> noobcook: er, there are a few floppy installation methods on that site.  You obviously haven't tried them all
[02:19] <noobcook> umm
[02:19] <noobcook> this is my 3rd day =p
[02:19] <MindFreek> QUESTION: Is there a way to boot people who login via VNC
[02:19] <noobcook> is there flannel
[02:19] <ayaz> jarjar26: have you tried using "apt-get" to compile some of the apps? it would install those libraries for you as well
[02:19] <Valentine> one day linux will get there... one day.
[02:19] <JohnnyX_> is there a #chan for wine?
[02:19] <cge> Flannel: he only has one floppy :(
[02:20] <jrib> JohnnyX_: yes, #winehq
[02:20] <noobcook> also this comp im on doesn't have a floppy drive =p
[02:20] <jarjar26> ayaz, is when i type ./configure ... apt-get install only .deb package no ?
[02:20] <JohnnyX_> thank you jrib
[02:20] <pyr0000> ok i installed ubuntu off the livecd onto my dell c840 everything went smoothly but i cant see my network card in the network connectons area, it is in the device manager and i used bcm4318.all.tar.gz to set it up but still no lights or anthing, the weird thing is when i boot off the live cd it shows up but i am unable to connect to my network. as well when booting off the livecd some errors come up about bcm43xx but they do not come up with the
[02:20] <jrib> JohnnyX_: anytime
[02:20] <cge> noobcook: There *is* a way, but it would be difficult. Have you considered putting the hard drive in another computer, installing Ubuntu, and then putting it back in the first one?
[02:20] <Flannel> noobcook: er, so your CDrom doesn't work, you have no floppy.  But your terminal works, and your network works?
[02:21] <noobcook> yes flannel
[02:21] <noobcook> cge lol umm
[02:21] <ayaz> jarjar26: i'm not 100% on if it just works for .deb, however ive used apt-get for many apps.. ie azureus.. xmms. k3b.. just typed "apt-get install azureus"
[02:21] <L0cKd0wN> anytime I restart the gnome session manager, I lose my mouse and have to completely reboot the system, is there a fix for this?
[02:21] <noobcook> how about ssh install?
[02:21] <Mikey> cge: installing xfce4 now, will it just run after that? how do i launch it
[02:21] <noobcook> possible?
[02:21] <jrib> !ssh | noobcook
[02:21] <ubotu> noobcook: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[02:21] <cge> jrib: ?
[02:21] <jarjar26> ayaz, i know ... but the appz who i want compile are not in package (.deb)
[02:21] <jrib> cge: ?
[02:21] <cge> noobcook: Yes, it is. If you can get it to SSH and have wget installed, you should be able to install.
[02:22] <noobcook> i dont have wget llo
[02:22] <noobcook> for some stupid reason
[02:22] <noobcook> how do i check what terminal it is
[02:22] <cge> jrib: noobcook was asking whether Ubuntu could be installed through SSH
[02:22] <jrib> noobcook: oh, try to address people when you talk otherwise people like me will get confused and think you are asking how to install ssh
[02:22] <Dimensions> hiya whats difference between a USB Dongle and USB Adapter ??
[02:22] <noobcook> sorry jrib =p
[02:23] <cge> Mikey: Depends
[02:23] <jrib> noobcook: have you seen !install ?
[02:23] <noobcook> yeh
[02:23] <noobcook> im looking at it now
[02:23] <cge> Mikey: Since I assume that you don't have a login manager, you should create a .xsession and then use startx
[02:23] <noobcook> ill try some more boot commands i guess
[02:23] <cge> noobcook: The hard drive swapping is a serious suggestion.
[02:24] <noobcook> cge its a laptop
[02:24] <noobcook> =p
[02:24] <pyr0000> Help! i cant get my bcm4305 to work!
[02:24] <cge> noobcook: Oh
[02:24] <cge> noobcook: Can you get it to run *some* form of linux?
[02:24] <noobcook> yeah
[02:24] <noobcook> its running terminal
[02:24] <noobcook> complete version aparently
[02:24] <Mikey> cge: XDM?
[02:24] <cge> noobcook: terminal?
[02:24] <toothpick> !automatix
[02:24] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[02:25] <toothpick> !WorksForMe
[02:25] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[02:25] <cge> Mikey: What?
[02:25] <Maje> pyr0000: check out ndiswrapper
[02:25] <cge> Mikey: Oh, if you are running XDM, you need a .xsession as well.
[02:25] <toothpick> !fglrx
[02:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:25] <cge> Mikey: I forgot that that existed.
[02:25] <Mikey> cde: im not running it, i just found it on google, can i apt-get that?
[02:25] <^Ocean^> None of my Desktop weather apps seem to work.  none of the G-desklets weather applets or the Gnome Weather Report Applet work.   Is this an issue with my distro, or a global issue ?
[02:26] <Mikey> cde: sorry to confuse
[02:26] <pyr0000> maje: i did i dled the bcm4318.all.tar.gz and ran it with no luck
[02:26] <delly> man everyone has nicknames
[02:26] <cge> Mikey: You could, but if you like the CLI, you might just want to use startx.
[02:26] <Maje> pyr0000: did you try installing ndiswrapper and using it with the drivers that you have for Windows?
[02:26] <Mikey> cde: ok then, 'sudo nano .xsession' ?
[02:26] <Maje> pyr0000: there is an ndisgtk package if you are adverse to the terminal
[02:26] <noobcook> cge wld disabling framebuffer help?
[02:26] <quijote> where can i found spanish help?
[02:27] <cge> Mikey: No, no sudo is needed. You just need to make a shell script in ~/.xsession that starts xfce4-session or fluxbox or something else, and then use the startx command.
[02:27] <mnoir> !es
[02:27] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:27] <quijote> thanks
[02:27] <cge> noobcook: Perhaps, I don't know.
[02:27] <noobcook> ok
[02:27] <mnoir> de nada
[02:27] <tobyr> :(
[02:27] <tobyr> big problems installing edgy from cd onto my laptop :(
[02:28] <socorrista_ach> tobyr shoot
[02:28] <tobyr> i put in country, name, keyboard, etc, then when it loads up the partition program the whole thing crashes
[02:28] <pyr0000> maje: should i do anything since i used the script for the bcm4318, or should i just get ndiswrapper and the windows driver for my card?
[02:28] <socorrista_ach> tobyr whats your system?? ram cpu etc
[02:28] <visik7> anyone able to play http://images.apple.com/movies/paramount/bee_movie/bee_movie-tlr1_h640w.mov
[02:28] <visik7> ?
[02:28] <tobyr> toshiba 2410-504, 256MB DDR RAM, 1.7Ghz
[02:29] <Maje> pyr0000: With my wireless card would not work with anything, but I got it working perfectly, without a hitch, using ndiswrapper.
[02:29] <pyr0000> visik7: visker?
[02:29] <noobcook> ok gona try load the kernal
[02:29] <socorrista_ach> tobyr when u startup the cd u have an option to test the cd..run it
[02:29] <visik7> pyr0000: can you see the streaming video ?
[02:29] <tobyr> socorrista_ach: Already done it
[02:29] <tobyr> Checksum is fine
[02:29] <pyr0000> maje: could you pm me and kinda walk me trough it?
[02:29] <Maje> pyr0000: You just need to go to packages.ubuntu.com and download the ndiswrapper package
[02:29] <socorrista_ach> tobyr: hum...get the alternate version
[02:29] <noobcook> !install
[02:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[02:30] <cge> I suppose I should ask the question I came in here a half an hour ago for the purpose of asking: I have a bluetooth mouse, and while it works, the scroll wheel only works occasionally. Does anyone know of this problem and a possible way to fix it? I've run xev and cat /dev/input/mice to see if there is anything that happens when the wheel is turned, and it doesn't appear that anything happens.
[02:30] <tobyr> the alternate version?
[02:30] <socorrista_ach> yes
[02:30] <toothpick> !easyubuntu
[02:30] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[02:30] <Maje> pyr0000: If you can't get it running, there's info on the wiki about it.
[02:30] <tobyr> what's that? i've had all sorts of crap trying to burn this cd lol
[02:30] <Maje> pyr0000: I would  help you more, but it's chem lab time, so I'm blocked for 4 hours =D
[02:31] <tobyr> i havent got  aburner so had to wake flatmate up to do it lol
[02:31] <socorrista_ach> tobyr: go to the official site end there dl the alternate version
[02:31] <socorrista_ach> lol
[02:31] <tobyr> bugger
[02:31] <SanityInAnarchy> coming off the livecd, is there a keystroke I can hit to get a terminal window? Can't seem to make ctrl+alt+f1 work
[02:31] <Jarrett> Thanks for the help all, I'll be going now :)
[02:31] <tobyr> its weird
[02:32] <tobyr> if i select add to free space... it comes up confirming the install, then says something about manually creating the partition instead
[02:32] <socorrista_ach> tobyr: does it load the live cd?
[02:32] <tobyr> yep
[02:32] <noobcook> bah im using the irqpoll variable and its still saying im not
[02:32] <Mikey> cde: erm, kindof stupid question, what do i put in that .xsession file/script? just two lines xfce4-session and startx?
[02:32] <tobyr> that's the only way i can get it to install... by clicking the first option and loading to the desktop, then double clicking install
[02:32] <Jarrett> Or maybe not, I just thought of another question
[02:32] <socorrista_ach> tobyr: does it gives u any error message or e just locks up?
[02:32] <tobyr> no just locks up
[02:33] <tobyr> the whole thing, no activity light on hdd, cdrom won't response, no mouse
[02:33] <socorrista_ach> u really have to download the alternate version
[02:33] <Jarrett> Instead of repartitioning my main drive, I have a second hard drive which I don't use for much.. is it possible to create a bootable partition on that second drive, or do all bootable partitions have to be on the same physical drive?
[02:33] <cge> Jarrett: You can certainly use the second drive.
[02:33] <socorrista_ach> tobyr: u have the memory on the limit
[02:33] <Jarrett> cge: great, that makes things much easier
[02:34] <tobyr> thats weird... is there a cmdline option to install via text interface?
[02:34] <Jarrett> Nice, now to find a blank CD, which might be difficult.  Later all
[02:34] <socorrista_ach> in the live cd i dont think so
[02:34] <socorrista_ach> cant remember
[02:34] <cge> tobyr: No, you need to download the alternate cd to install in a respectable manner.
[02:34] <tobyr> if i press f6 on the intro screen i can change boot options
[02:35] <socorrista_ach> dont try to do something like that or u will screw up everything
[02:35] <tobyr> so basically the partition program is causing my build to assert with an out of memory error?
[02:35] <Sakui> anyone use ATI TV capture cards in ubuntu?
[02:36] <cge> tobyr: If you don't have copious amounts of RAM, the LiveCD is not for you.
[02:36] <noobcook> try turning of acpi lol
[02:36] <noobcook> that fixes everything!
[02:36] <tobyr> 256 isn't a copious amount of RAM for Linux?
[02:36] <socorrista_ach> nope..i dont know how is building your partition table,i agree with cge
[02:36] <noobcook> hey cge i just got passed the inital stages of install =)
[02:36] <cge> noobcook: There was a time when it actually did solve close to all problems.
[02:36] <cge> cge: good
[02:36] <cge> tobyr: It isn't for the LiveCD
[02:36] <noobcook> ah crap
[02:37] <noobcook> bug: soft lockup detected on CPU#0
[02:37] <noobcook> -(
[02:37] <tobyr> God dammit
[02:37] <toulouse> tobyr: it would be for damn small linux tho
[02:37] <tobyr> So I HAVE to go into the LiveCD to install?
[02:37] <socorrista_ach> u really have to download the alternate version
[02:37] <cge> tobyr: Not if you download the alternate.
[02:37] <tobyr> God dammit cheers :P
[02:37] <tobyr> I'll do that then
[02:37] <noobcook> tobyr its only 700 meg
[02:37] <noobcook> thats nothing compared to how much you downloaded for the live cd
[02:37] <noobcook> lol
[02:38] <cge> tobyr: There are other ways but they are only for the insane.
[02:38] <tobyr> the cd i downloaded was only 700 meg
[02:38] <tobyr> :s
[02:38] <socorrista_ach> cge: you're good with bad news..u should become a doctor
[02:38] <socorrista_ach> lol
[02:38] <noobcook> really?
[02:38] <tobyr> yep...
[02:38] <noobcook> i thought the live cd is 3.5 gigs
[02:38] <noobcook> ohwell
[02:38] <tobyr> ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386
[02:38] <tobyr> is what i have
[02:38] <noobcook> ah
[02:38] <toulouse> oh crap live cd 3.5 gigs?
[02:38] <socorrista_ach> only 698megs
[02:38] <noobcook> same version here
[02:38] <toulouse> that is the dvd right
[02:38] <noobcook> i downloaded ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386 and so far its unsupportive and rife with problems lol
[02:38] <SanityInAnarchy> right, toulouse ... if there even is a DVD
[02:39] <tobyr> hey it says alternate version is for computers with under 196MB ram
[02:39] <toulouse> ya cause my live cd  be on a normal cd-t
[02:39] <toulouse> *r
[02:39] <socorrista_ach> yup
[02:39] <socorrista_ach> thats it
[02:39] <cge> tobyr: I wouldn't trust it.
[02:39] <tobyr> god damn
[02:39] <tobyr> nothing is ever simple
[02:39] <cge> tobyr: The alternate is better in nearly all situations.
[02:39] <socorrista_ach> cge
[02:39] <socorrista_ach> in the official site
[02:39] <tobyr> i will be getting the same version of the os though?
[02:39] <socorrista_ach> is right
[02:39] <cge> tobyr: Yes
[02:39] <socorrista_ach> i dl it for my laptop
[02:39] <noobcook> cge how do i deal with a " [17179798.612000]  BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0! "
[02:39] <tobyr> ok, so i'm looking at... ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[02:40] <cge> tobyr: And the installer is nearly completely different.
[02:40] <cge> tobyr: So a bug in one usually won't appear in the other.
[02:40] <socorrista_ach> tobyr: wait
[02:40] <Mikey> cde: cde: im confised about .xsession, do i have to dowdload it from somware else?
[02:40] <socorrista_ach> ill give the adress
[02:40] <socorrista_ach> its faster then torrent
[02:40] <tobyr> ok
[02:40] <tobyr> need uk mirror
[02:40] <tobyr> :P
[02:40] <toulouse> ive never gotten torrents to work on my ubuntu
[02:41] <tobyr> thanks for all your help guys, hopefully i'll be in here helping people out soon :D
[02:41] <toulouse> i tried azureus and everything
[02:41] <cge> Mikey: No, just create a file with something like "#!/bin/sh" and then "xfce4-session" in the next line.
[02:41] <sdgr406> noobcook: maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=251944 would help
[02:41] <noobcook> ok sdgr thanks
[02:41] <daftvader> toulouse: may be it is your firewall
[02:41] <tobyr> uTorrent for the win
[02:41] <nuvan> hey, my wireless adapter (bcm43xx) is being identified as eth2.  any way to have it be recognised as a wlan entry instead, so that NetworkManagerApplet will see it as a wireless device?
[02:41] <noobcook> damn i KNOW its an acpi problem...bastards
[02:41] <noobcook> it even says it ><
[02:41] <Mikey> cde: is this in root isnt it?
[02:41] <daftvader> toulouse: how do you set up your azureus?
[02:42] <toulouse> daftvader: it could be, i didnt set up anything, just left it tock
[02:42] <toulouse> im on wifi too
[02:42] <toulouse> that might have something to do with it
[02:42] <socorrista_ach> tobyr: http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/releases.ubuntu.com/edgy/
[02:42] <cge> Oh dear, I need to leave now, unfortunately.
[02:42] <daftvader> toulouse: that's probably the reason
[02:42] <daftvader> check for your open ports
[02:42] <cge> I always end up staying here far longer than I should.
[02:42] <toulouse> ya, i'll just stick with ftp, it's plenty fast eh?
[02:42] <tobyr> that's where i'm at socorrista_ach
[02:42] <tobyr> ok so http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/releases.ubuntu.com/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso
[02:42] <socorrista_ach> lol
[02:42] <daftvader> are you using an adsl router? a 56k modem? etc?
[02:42] <socorrista_ach> ?
[02:42] <toulouse> high speed dsl
[02:43] <socorrista_ach> use the portugal server
[02:43] <cge> Mikey: If you need help with the .xsession, just ask around in here or search for .xsession. They've been around for decades, so there is quite a bit of documentation about them.
[02:43] <daftvader> then check your port on your router
[02:43] <toulouse> and then goes through a linksys wireless b
[02:43] <sdgr406> the azureus wiki has plenty of documentation on how to properly configure the software
[02:43] <Mikey> cde: thankx so much for your help
[02:43] <toulouse> ok, im not too worried about it, is there any huge advantage?
[02:43] <noobcook> thanks cde ur a good sort
[02:44] <daftvader> toulouse: huge advantage compare to what?
[02:44] <sdgr406> check http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/NAT_problem for instance
[02:44] <toulouse> ftp
[02:44] <toulouse> is it alot faster than ftp or http?
[02:44] <daftvader> well ftp needs a dedicated server
[02:44] <toulouse> o
[02:44] <daftvader> torrent is a distributed server
[02:44] <nuvan> hey, my wireless adapter (bcm43xx) is being identified as eth2.  any way to have it be recognised as a wlan entry instead, so that NetworkManagerApplet will see it as a wireless device?
[02:44] <daftvader> you can only get certain files off the ftp server
[02:44] <socorrista_ach> ppl i have too go
[02:44] <socorrista_ach> c u all later
[02:44] <daftvader> while you can get basically anything that is seeded off millions other server
[02:45] <socorrista_ach> [[[[] ] ] ] 
[02:45] <clee_> Has anyone noticed the edgy servers going extremely slow while dapper serves are screaming fast?
[02:46] <clee_> i'm talking about the package servers that is.
[02:46] <daftvader> may be because there is a lot of people on edgy?
[02:46] <clee_> perhaps
[02:46] <Mikey> i get error while starting xfce4: exec 54: xinit: not found
[02:46] <clee_> yu would think they would dedicate more bandwidth to the busy servers.
[02:47] <daftvader> probably the same server number
[02:47] <daftvader> they can't predict how many would switch over to edgy
[02:48] <clee_> edgy has been out log enough, i think someone's being lazy.
[02:48] <clee_> long*
[02:48] <toulouse> !edgy
[02:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[02:48] <nuvan> ok, thanks to dmesg, I now have a simpler question.  how can I stop ndiswrapper from renaming 'wlan0' to 'eth1'?
[02:49] <sdgr406> clee_: apparently editing your sources.list and removing the us. prefix can help speed up your download
[02:49] <daftvader> has anyone computer ever frozen on ubuntu?
[02:49] <clee_> wow
[02:49] <clee_> thanks
[02:49] <kilgore> yes daft
[02:49] <toulouse> daftvader: lol, i just reset x
[02:49] <clee_> dapper used to freeze on me
[02:49] <sdgr406> clee_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=334538
[02:49] <daftvader> for some apparent reason, if I leave my computer on over night it freezes
[02:49] <toulouse> daftvader: apps freeze all the time for me
[02:50] <daftvader> toulouse: it is not the apps
[02:50] <kilgore> check power settings
[02:50] <toulouse> can you press ctrl+alt_backspace?
[02:50] <daftvader> I did, I even check the bios power setting
[02:50] <Mikey> oh no, linux, it dont freeze....it cools hahahah
[02:50] <toulouse> daftvader: reset x
[02:50] <daftvader> nope I cant even do the alt+sysrq
[02:50] <toulouse> ohy
[02:50] <toulouse> oh
[02:50] <toulouse> bummer
[02:51] <daftvader> only happen if I let it run overnight
[02:51] <noobcook> man what is this softlockup BS
[02:51] <daftvader> and I can't figure out why
[02:51] <toulouse> find a timer to reset ur comp at like 6 in the morning
[02:51] <daftvader> that's stupid
[02:51] <daftvader> because I use it as a server
[02:52] <daftvader> a media server
[02:52] <sdgr406> daftvader: nothing in /var/log/messages to indicate what's happening?
[02:52] <noobcook> thankyou for socialy engineering urself daftvader =p
[02:52] <daftvader> you are welcome, I doubt you can break into mine
[02:52] <noobcook> wna play
[02:52] <noobcook> lol
[02:52] <clee_> wow, that did the trick
[02:53] <daftvader> sdgr406 I check all the log
[02:53] <daftvader> sure bring it on noobcook
[02:53] <GuerrillaWon> Is anyone elses Ubuntu freezing, usually with firefox?
[02:53] <noobcook> does anyone know if all mb's support a usb to boot first?
[02:54] <rogue780> what does "Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server --- Xlib: Maximum number of clients reached" mean?
[02:55] <GuerrillaWon> Hmm actually, here's a better question, are there any nvidia drivers to update that will work on an amd64 architecture
[02:55] <GuerrillaWon> ?
[02:55] <GuerrillaWon> I see the regular drivers that can be updated but I'm not sure of it's compatibility with my amd64 system setup.
[02:55] <daftvader> are you using 64bit or 32bit OS?
[02:56] <PoLL> hello, does anyone happen to know where the aterm default config is located ?
[02:57] <noobcook> daftvader theres 20 hops to ur server i would get too slower downloads to bother =p
[02:57] <daftvader> lmfao noobcook so you did a traceroute to my computer
[02:57] <daftvader> lmfao boo hoo
[02:57] <noobcook> =p
[02:58] <krznpsk> at the bash prompt, how do i unzip all files in a dir, a la "unzip *.zip"
[02:58] <noobcook> i actually did a ping walk
[02:58] <noobcook> =p
[02:59] <daftvader> oh well i takes a genius to crack my firewall
[02:59] <daftvader> *it
[02:59] <noobcook> really
[02:59] <daftvader> yes really
[02:59] <noobcook> are u picking up my pings
[02:59] <h3xis> o rly?
[02:59] <Mikey> can somebody help me with my .xsession script?
[03:00] <daftvader> if you can get root access il be impressed
[03:00] <Mikey> i get xinit no found
[03:00] <clee_> Everytime someone says their firewall is unhackable they just illude to their stupidity.
[03:00] <noobcook> i dont have term access atm
[03:00] <noobcook> trying 2 install solaris again
[03:00] <daftvader> i didn't say my firewall is unhackable
[03:00] <noobcook> yeh
[03:00] <noobcook> hmm
[03:01] <daftvader> i just said that there is alot of script kiddies
[03:01] <noobcook> yep haha
[03:01] <daftvader> *are
[03:01] <clee_> okay
[03:01] <noobcook> im not a hacker
[03:01] <clee_> i'll trust you on that
[03:01] <noobcook> the only software i have is for checking my own ass
[03:01] <noobcook> this pc is actually the most vunerable pc ever
[03:01] <noobcook> haha
[03:01] <noobcook> but my gateway logs
[03:02] <SanityInAnarchy> is there an easy way to change the livecd? I want to have it run a script after it's booted
[03:02] <daftvader> using telstra david?
[03:02] <noobcook> telslut =p
[03:03] <bimberi> !uck | SanityInAnarchy
[03:03] <ubotu> SanityInAnarchy: UCK is a tool that helps you customizing official Ubuntu Live CDs (including Kubuntu/Xubuntu and Edubuntu) to your needs. See http://uck.sourceforge.net/
[03:04] <noobcook> but my ip is relaly weird
[03:04] <Mikey> can somebody help me start fluxbox, i just apt-getted it
[03:04] <noobcook> normally its not 58 :S
[03:04] <daftvader> lol telstra is a rippoff
[03:04] <Toulouse> hey guys, i adjusted the opacity of the background in xchat, and it died! now it wont relaunch! i have beryl running
[03:04] <bimberi> Mikey: it should appear on the Sessions menu of the login screen
[03:04] <Mikey> bimberi: im in cli
[03:05] <daftvader> and how did you get to talk to us?
[03:05] <Toulouse> using gaim
[03:05] <daftvader> then shut off beryl and tried again
[03:05] <Mikey> bimberi: i have only cli, this is why im abit desparate in typing to get x
[03:05] <Toulouse> okey dokey
[03:05] <daftvader> beryl isn't a full release yet
[03:05] <archangelpetro> could anyone suggest a solution?  http://rafb.net/p/RUqIwC52.html  im not sure what's wrong here.
[03:06] <clee_> I'm finding that Ubuntu and Vista Ultimate make a good dual book system.
[03:06] <bimberi> Mikey: 'startx' is the command, but as to what DE environment it will run, that will depend on your configuration
[03:06] <daftvader> why dual booting at all?
[03:06] <clee_> Because some people work for companies that dont use linux.
[03:06] <toulouse> daftvader: that worked :)
[03:06] <daftvader> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-core
[03:07] <daftvader> i think that would work for you Mikey
[03:07] <Mikey> bimberi: startx isnt recognised, but startfluxbox throws out an error
[03:07] <daftvader> it would let you choose the session
[03:07] <archangelpetro> anyone? http://rafb.net/p/RUqIwC52.html
[03:07] <steve_> Is there someone here who could help me with nvraid and dmraid here tongiht?
[03:07] <ratster> i am going to exchange vidio cards on the computer, do i need to reinstall ubunto or will it auto-detect, or is there something else i need to do?
[03:08] <Mikey> daftvader: xserver-core isnt installed, do you want me to apt-get it?
[03:08] <daftvader> nope i think i may have given you a typo
[03:08] <daftvader> give me a second
[03:08] <rioghal> Mikey, Are you configuring the X resolution?
[03:08] <bimberi> Mikey: yes, you need the xserver. but the package is xserver-xorg
[03:09] <Mikey> no, im trying to run fluxbox
[03:10] <jrib> archangelpetro: have you searched the forums the game links to to see if it is a known bug?
[03:10] <Mikey> bimberi: in process of install
[03:10] <archangelpetro> jrib, yes i have
[03:10] <rioghal> Mikey, When I installed fluxbox, the installer launched 'startfluxbox', I had problems with that until I just launched 'fluxbox' instead of 'startfluxbox', then fluxbox started right up.
[03:10] <archangelpetro> and to no avail i'm afraid.
[03:10] <daftvader> well if you have X
[03:10] <Mikey> rioghal: ok, ill have a try, when it finished apt-getting
[03:11] <mnoir> ratster: you will at least need to do:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  to reset yer config
[03:11] <Mikey> i want to try xfce4 later as well, i liked it b4
[03:11] <daftvader> then type dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:11] <mnoir> !fixres | ratster this may be a good page to look at
[03:11] <ubotu> ratster this may be a good page to look at: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:12] <rioghal> Mikey, FWIW, I'm on Dapper, not Edgy.
[03:12] <ratster> test anyone see this
[03:12] <daftvader> nope we didn't see that
[03:12] <rioghal> ratster, yes
[03:12] <toulouse> daftvader: thanks :) i got it workin
[03:12] <Tonren> Hey guys, I'm trying to enable postfix as a send-only mail server.  I'm doing web development on a laptop connected to the web through a commercial router & cable modem.  Who can help me out?
[03:13] <daftvader> toulouse: no worries, beryl is still very alpha
[03:13] <theflyingfool> hi all
[03:13] <daftvader> toulouse: I use it to play around and impress my gf
[03:13] <toulouse> is feisty gonna have it
[03:13] <toulouse> ?
[03:13] <steve_> I'll just put this out there, I'm trying to mount my windows drives which are on an nvraid device (gross I know), I'm using Edgy and I have mounted them before in the dapper days but now it seems dmraid doesn't recognize my nvraid properly.  When I type 'sudo dmraid -an' it gives me: 'RAID set "nvidia_edcfeiba" is not active.'   Can anyone please help?
[03:13] <CyberCod> Oh boy... do i ever need help now
[03:13] <toulouse> i mean built in
[03:13] <daftvader> toulouse: I doubt it
[03:13] <toulouse> oh
[03:13] <LameBMX> toulouse, probably not as a default thing
[03:13] <toulouse> bummer
[03:13] <toulouse> oh
[03:13] <LameBMX> if at all
[03:13] <toulouse> well, i'll have it,it's waaaay too cool not to
[03:13] <dm> Is Feisty fawn stable?
[03:13] <daftvader> nope
[03:14] <toulouse> !feisty
[03:14] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[03:14] <daftvader> it hasn't been released yet
[03:14] <protection> Is it possible to run Chankast under zine
[03:14] <CyberCod> who here knows about fixing filesystem errors via command line on ext3.... had a power failure
[03:14] <theflyingfool> how do i change which volume setting gets changed with my volume key, it currently changes the master mono, i need it to change PCM
[03:14] <LameBMX> it works really good ... but a lot of hand config is necessary .. and a lot of playing to get it working really good
[03:14] <protection> Is it possible to run Chankast under W*ine
[03:14] <daftvader> fsck
[03:14] <jrib> archangelpetro: does this command work?  'head /lib/libuuid.so.1 > /dev/null'
[03:14] <daftvader> !fsck
[03:14] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[03:14] <Mikey> daftvader: eeerrrr its asking me for location of my video card =\ pci:1:0:0 ok?
[03:14] <daftvader> just choose the default
[03:14] <noobcook> can anyone tell me how to make a flash archive?
[03:15] <daftvader> flash archive?
[03:15] <CyberCod> ok..  but can fsck fix damaged packages?
[03:15] <daftvader> yes it would CyberCod
[03:15] <archangelpetro> jrib, it didnt yeild any results at all.. but there was no error either
[03:15] <daftvader> oops damage packages?
[03:15] <daftvader> what do you mean?
[03:15] <ratster> thanks, i am going to change a vidio card on this machine does ubuntu auto-detect,
[03:15] <noobcook> "flash" installs your system from one or more Flash Archives"
[03:16] <daftvader> some program didn't work?
[03:16] <juano_> mag__: what seems to be the problem?
[03:17] <protection> Is it possible to run Chankast (http://www.chanka.org/)  under Wine
[03:17] <CyberCod> My brother had a power failure... now his pc boots up, does filesystem check, discovers a bunch of errors and ends up at a prompt... My cordless phone is charging up (it went dead talking to him) and I'm gathering info on what to do... should I just attempt to start x ?
[03:17] <daftvader> CyberCod: use aptitude reinstall to get your packages reinstall
[03:17] <CyberCod> so just apt-get reinstall  ?
[03:17] <tom_> hey everyone, i've managed to bork my sound. is there a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg except for your sound instead of video?
[03:18] <daftvader> CyberCod: nope aptitude reinstall packagename
[03:18] <jrib> tom_: how did you bork it?
[03:18] <CyberCod> is there a modifier for the command to denote reinstalling all packages?
[03:18] <archangelpetro> jrib, should it generate textual output?
[03:18] <daftvader> CyberCod: what is he running?
[03:18] <Dampyle> quit
[03:18] <Dampyle> exit
[03:18] <jrib> archangelpetro: no, head just prints the first 10 lines, but I had it send that to the black hole (/dev/null) since it is probably binary data.  I just wanted to make sure you could read the file ok
[03:18] <daftvader> CyberCod: ubuntu? kubuntu?
[03:18] <tom_> jrib: i downloaded the drivers for it (because the ubuntu drivers weren't letting me record) and followed the instructions, it made and installed some drivers and now nothing works
[03:18] <CyberCod> xubuntu... but I figured apt-get and fsck are the same
[03:19] <daftvader> nope
[03:19] <jrib> tom_: what drivers?
[03:19] <daftvader> apt-get fetches the packages off the net
[03:19] <daftvader> fsck just repair the filesystem
[03:19] <archangelpetro> jrib,  i figured so, but why wouldnt the client be able to access them?
[03:19] <archangelpetro> bearing in mind i'm on amd64
[03:19] <CyberCod> no i mean across the different distros... i know the programs have different functions
[03:19] <daftvader> fsck is like checkdisk in windows
[03:19] <tom_> jrib: um ok there the realtek linux audio driver r3.52
[03:19] <tom_> jrib: for an asus m2v onboard sound
[03:19] <jrib> archangelpetro: no idea, that's a weird error.  All I can tell you is I installed secondlife to /opt 2 days ago and it worked ok
[03:19] <ratster> thanks all :)
[03:20] <CyberCod> i mean apt-get is same in xubuntu as ubuntu... and ditto with fsck
[03:20] <daftvader> if you want to reinstall the whole os through apt-get then just type apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[03:20] <jrib> tom_: do you know where they installed to?
[03:20] <tom_> jrib: just a sec
[03:20] <CyberCod> ok... sudo apt-get reinstall xubuntu-desktop    ?
[03:20] <jrib> tom_: first thing, and probably the best thing, you can do is look for uninstall instructions on the same site
[03:20] <gdb> CyberCod: xubuntu *is* ubuntu
[03:21] <daftvader> sudo aptitude reinstuall xubuntu-desktop
[03:21] <ortega10> i'd like to buy a lcd monitor, but i'd like to know if i could have any problems with ubuntu, switching from my old crt to a new lcd... should i have to reconfigure xorg manually, and if so, would it be easy?  and could i have problems with a 1440x900 widescreen resolution, with a radeon 9600 and ati's proprietary drivers?
[03:21] <daftvader> apt-get doesn't have a reinstall
[03:21] <daftvader> command
[03:21] <Mikey> woooooow that took a well long time, all these questions asked by xserver-xorg, i feel like im in a police station
[03:21] <tom_> jrib: im not sure a script installed the stuff
[03:21] <jrib> daftvader: apt-get --reinstall install foo
[03:21] <gdb> daftvader: yes, it does
[03:21] <CyberCod> should he apt-get aptitude? or is it already there?
[03:21] <daftvader> ok
[03:21] <gdb> daftvader: apt-get --reinstall install package_name
[03:21] <archangelpetro> jrib, might it be to do with the fact that i'm on amd64? and it's a 32bit client? woudlnt i need that particular library in /usr/lib32?
[03:21] <nn531> how come I installed flash from synaptic and it still says I dont have it installed when I go to a flash website
[03:21] <phixnay> hey I have a question - I can't get 1440x900 to work on my new lcd widescreen monitor
[03:21] <daftvader> then i learnt something new
[03:21] <CyberCod> ok...
[03:21] <gdb> daftvader: ;-)
[03:21] <CyberCod> so
[03:21] <daftvader> sorry cybercod
[03:21] <jrib> archangelpetro: ah, yes, that's a good theory
[03:22] <phixnay> I tried editing xorg.conf, but so far no luck
[03:22] <steelb> how do i view all the applications that are running
[03:22] <jrib> steelb: ps -ef
[03:22] <archangelpetro> jrib, do you know of a package where i can get this library for lib32?
[03:22] <tom_> jrib: i think to /lib/modules/kernel_version/kernel/sound
[03:22] <bimberi> daftvader: no, you're right, it's a switch on the install command ;)
[03:22] <daftvader> ps -e
[03:22] <CyberCod> sudo apt-get --reinstall xubuntu-desktop    should get him back up and running well enough to see if anything else is damaged... after a  full fsck
[03:22] <rioghal> CyberCod, aptitude is installed by default, at least it is in Dapper.
[03:22] <steelb> well, whats the task manager shortcut
[03:23] <nn531> can anyone help me with a flash problem?
[03:23] <phixnay> steelb: try "top"
[03:23] <rioghal> steelb, gnome-system-monitor ?
[03:23] <daftvader> phixnay: have you tried going through the xserver wizard?
[03:23] <jrib> !ask | nn531
[03:23] <ubotu> nn531: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:23] <steelb> yes
[03:23] <ortega10> phixnay: i'm thinking of buying that kind of monitor too, what problem do you have?  do you see just a fraction of the screen, or you can't make it work at all, or does it resize the screen to a lower resolution?
[03:23] <CyberCod> I'm just marginally familiar with apt-get and synaptic... but whatever works... right?
[03:23] <arrenlex> CyberCod: That's "apt-get install --reinstal" by the way. Also, for metapackages, it's best to use aptitude, so it removes all the dependencies.
[03:23] <SanityInAnarchy> ok, new question: What's the difference between the alternate and server cds? (and which should I use for rescue)
[03:23] <nn531> jrib: i did... no one responded
[03:23] <jrib> tom_: can you link me to the instructions you used?
[03:23] <noobcook> YES
[03:23] <phixnay> ortega10, it defaults to a lower res
[03:23] <jrib> nn531: then repeat after waiting a bit
[03:23] <arrenlex> CyberCod: apt-get install --reinstall. Jeesh.
[03:23] <noobcook> SUCCESS
[03:23] <noobcook> =D
[03:23] <noobcook> YES SUCCESS
[03:23] <noobcook> =D
[03:23] <nn531> how come I installed flash from synaptic and it still says I dont have it installed when I go to a flash website
[03:23] <noobcook> =D
[03:23] <Mikey> daftvader: ok xorg.conf done, what next? run startx?
[03:23] <jrib> noobcook: ok, calm down :)
[03:24] <noobcook> lol sorry
[03:24] <steelb> rioghal: yes
[03:24] <noobcook> finally
[03:24] <daftvader> nope reboot
[03:24] <tom_> jrib: yep just a sec
[03:24] <jrib> nn531: did you restart flash?
[03:24] <phixnay> daftvader: I tried going through dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it had no effect
[03:24] <jrib> nn531: did you restart firefox?
[03:24] <ortega10> phixnay: but do you see all the screen filled (and resampled to a lower res), or just a fraction of the screen (and the rest in black)?
[03:24] <rioghal> phixnay, Did you restart X?
[03:24] <Mikey> daftvader: reboot? i though that was a windows universal fix?
[03:24] <daftvader> try rebooting
[03:24] <noobcook> dev/dsk/ was the key to everything
[03:24] <nn531> jrib: yes installed it yesterday and restarted, rebooted, shut down...
[03:24] <phixnay> ortega10: I see all the screen, but at 1152-870
[03:24] <milo> test
[03:24] <CyberCod> ok... thanks everyone... i'm just trying to have a comprehensive gameplan for when he calls back.
[03:24] <jrib> nn531: pastebin the result of this command: apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree
[03:24] <phixnay> I can change the resolutions though
[03:24] <theflyingfool> i need help getting my volume controls working properly
[03:25] <ortega10> phixnay: and the resample looks ok, or like crap (blurry and all)?
[03:25] <daftvader> well mikey
[03:25] <CyberCod> arronlex... should    "apt-get install --reinstall" have package name after? or does it re-install everything?
[03:25] <daftvader> what are you running? gdm or kdm?
[03:25] <phixnay> I can get 1280x1024, or 1280x720 It looks more blurry than it should
[03:25] <daftvader> fluxbox sits on top of that
[03:25] <nn531> jrib: well you showed me... installed: (none), any idea where I get it?
[03:25] <phixnay> and I have resarted X, crtl-alt-backspace
[03:25] <arrenlex> CyberCod: apt-get install --reinstall <packagename>
[03:25] <jrib> nn531: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[03:26] <CyberCod> ok.. thanx... i'm a stickler for clarification... sorry
[03:26] <daftvader> arrenlex: he wants to reinstall everything, the whole system
[03:26] <ortega10> phixnay: and does it look ok in 1280x1024?
[03:26] <ortega10> i'd like to buy a lcd monitor, but i'd like to know if i could have any problems with ubuntu, switching from my old crt to a new lcd... should i have to reconfigure xorg manually, and if so, would it be easy?  and could i have problems with a 1440x900 widescreen resolution, with a radeon 9600 and ati's proprietary drivers?
[03:26] <arrenlex> daftvader: ...weird. Why?
[03:26] <Mikey> daftvader: erm, im not sure, is there a place to find out (btw i installed cli from ubuntu cd and apt-get fluxbox)
[03:26] <daftvader> arrenlex: computer crashes nfi
[03:26] <rioghal> phixnay, this may be a dumb question, but are you sure your monitor supports the resolution you are trying to get? Some older monitors may not.
[03:26] <phixnay> ortega10- it's definitely usable, but what it does is it stretches to fit the widescreen.
[03:27] <arrenlex> daftvader: Dunno who you're talking about, but if you haven't found a way yet: dpkg -l | grep ii | awk '{print $2}' | xargs sudo apt-get install --reinstall
[03:27] <phixnay> rioghal: it's preferred res is 1440x900, and it works on windows on this same box
[03:27] <archangelpetro> jrib u know a package i can get for this library in 32bit format?
[03:27] <ortega10> phixnay: are you sure your *video card* supports that resolution?  what video card do you have?
[03:27] <arrenlex> daftvader: (i.e. tell him that if he hasn't found a way yet)
[03:27] <rioghal> phixnay, ok, just checking
[03:27] <VR_> hey everyone, what would be a reason for a shipit enquiry to be "denied" ?
[03:27] <tom_> jrib: umm i just used the instructions that came with the driver
[03:27] <nn531> jrib: how do I offically restart firefox, becasue closing and opening doesnt do the trick
[03:27] <pagefault> the ati drivers will get a list of resolutions from your pnp id
[03:27] <phixnay> ortega10: I have a Geforce 7600GS with 512 ram, so I thought it would be enough
[03:27] <steve_> ortega10: you shouldn't have any trouble
[03:27] <tom_> jrib: i got  them from http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?modelname=M2V&SLanguage=en-us
[03:27] <jrib> archangelpetro: no I don't, I don't know anything about using amd64
[03:27] <phixnay> I also have the latest drivers
[03:27] <oggy_> im running 64bit ubuntu and I cant seem to get a plugin for firefox flash plugin
[03:27] <pagefault> you don't need to worry about it working
[03:27] <pagefault> it will see your res
[03:28] <oggy_> firefox doesnt make one
[03:28] <rioghal> VR_, Can't ship to the destination? Too many shipit requests?
[03:28] <ortega10> steve_: but phixnay here says he has trouble with that same resolution ...
[03:28] <arrenlex> oggy_: That's because it doesn't exist.
[03:28] <jrib> nn531: close it.  Check if it is still running with: ps -ef  | grep firefox-bin
[03:28] <arrenlex> oggy_: Flash is 32-bit only
[03:28] <ortega10> phixnay: yes that videocard is more than enough  :)
[03:28] <oggy_> any other alternatives
[03:28] <phixnay> oggy_: try this link, it worked for me https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[03:28] <oggy_> ?
[03:28] <oggy_> thanks
[03:28] <phixnay> np
[03:29] <daftvader> Mikey: from the ubuntuguide.org - echo "exec startfluxbox" > ~/.xinitrc
[03:29] <nn531> jrib: ok.. and how do I tell if it's still running.. it displays some firefox stuff im assuming thats it
[03:29] <Sakui> anyone use ATI TV capture cards in ubuntu?
[03:29] <arrenlex> oggy_: Nothing that really works well.  There's Gnash, but it doesn't play many movies. You can run in a 64-bit chroot, but that's difficult to set up and your entire browser would be 32-bit and you'd have problems saving stuff because you'd be in a chroot.
[03:29] <jrib> archangelpetro: maybe try http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/dists/edgy-cafuego/secondlife/
[03:29] <Mikey> daftvader: ahh you want me to create a scrip with that yea?
[03:29] <arrenlex> oggy_: I strongly advise you to install a 32-bit distro. You won't notice a performance difference under regular desktop use, and it's a lot more compatible.
[03:29] <nn531> jrib: pkill i got it
[03:29] <phixnay> so any other ideas? I tried changing color depth to 16, and then to 8, but every time it thinks it's in 1440x900 it is really in 1152x870
[03:30] <jrib> nn531: k
[03:30] <nn531> jrib: thanks a bunch
[03:30] <daftvader> MIkey: well to check if you have gdm
[03:30] <daftvader> mikey: sudo apt-get install gdm
[03:30] <archangelpetro> jrib, think it'll work on dapper?
[03:30] <daftvader> mikey: that would install gdm
[03:31] <jrib> archangelpetro: no idea, try rebuilding the package from source
[03:31] <archangelpetro> hai ok :D
[03:31] <ortega10> phixnay: i found this thread in ubuntuforums <phixnay> so any other ideas? I tried changing color depth to 16, and then to 8, but every time it thinks it's in 1440x900 it is really in 1152x870
[03:31] <DigitalNinja_> Does anyone know what's going on with the ubuntu clamav package?
[03:31] <ortega10> phixnay: sorry, my bad
[03:31] <archangelpetro> ahh jrib they have a dapper version :D
[03:31] <ortega10> phixnay: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261856
[03:31] <Mikey> daftvader: thanks, i didnt have a window manages yet
[03:31] <jrib> archangelpetro: http://us.ubuntu.cafuego.net/dists/dapper-cafuego/secondlife/  :)
[03:31] <Mikey> r*
[03:31] <arrenlex> DigitalNinja_: Problems?
[03:32] <DigitalNinja_> arrenlex: Yup!
[03:32] <archangelpetro> thanks a lot jrib  :D you've been a great help
[03:32] <daftvader> after you get gdm type this command to get it started at startup
[03:32] <daftvader> Mikey: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[03:32] <arrenlex> DigitalNinja_: i.e. what problems are you having?
[03:33] <DigitalNinja_> arrenlex: WARNING: Your ClamAV installation is OUTDATED!
[03:33] <DigitalNinja_> arrenlex: ERROR: Clamd was NOT notified: Can't connect to clamd through /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl
[03:33] <Mikey> daftvader: it says action "reload" failed
[03:33] <milo> test
[03:33] <DigitalNinja_> arrenlex: I got those error messages from logwatch.
[03:34] <daftvader> Mikey: what said that? the dpkg?
[03:34] <Mikey> yes, at the end, after it installed it
[03:34] <daftvader> hmm odd. just run through the xorg.conf again
[03:35] <arrenlex> DigitalNinja_: Ubuntu Edgy has 0.88.2. Current stable is 0.88.7. I don't think it matters much... just wait for the package to update. It's already in Feisty.
[03:35] <Falstius> Firefox is silently crashing every time it visits my wife's school login page, any idea on how I can figure it what makes it crash?  With Mozilla in Ubuntu it is okay and with Firefox in windows it is okay.
[03:35] <arrenlex> Apropos the second message, I dunno. Don't run it.
[03:35] <CyberCod> my brother has a pretty good connection... and his only experience with installing linux is watching me install it.  I'm just trying to figure out the best fix-all solution to tell him...    if I can reinstall all the packages in xubuntu desktop, i'm sure that any other things can be addressed from synaptic, with which he has become familiar.
[03:35] <math_> hello, does anyone know how to chown all files directly also in sub-dirs?
[03:35] <Mikey> daftvader: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[03:35] <DigitalNinja_> arrenlex: My server runs Dapper. Is there a way to get the new package
[03:35] <daftvader> Mikey: yep
[03:35] <DigitalNinja_> ??
[03:35] <math_> sudo chown name -R * does not chown all files
[03:35] <rioghal> Falstius, Run firefox from a term and see if there is any error output
[03:35] <toulouse> math_: it's gonna be like chown -r
[03:35] <arrenlex> Falstius: Reproducibly? What happens if you run in safe-mode? "firefox -safe-mode"
[03:35] <daftvader> Mikey: just use a default configuration
[03:35] <toulouse> oh
[03:35] <math_> does not work
[03:36] <toulouse> nvm
[03:36] <math_> only the sub-dirs work
[03:36] <Schalken> how do you erase your terminal history?
[03:36] <Falstius> rioghal: no error messages, it really does crash silently.  I'll try safe mode.
[03:36] <math_> not the files
[03:36] <lifepositive__> what monitor is the best for headaches and eyes?
[03:36] <daftvader> why? someone has being dl p0rn from the net?
[03:36] <jrib> math_: chown -R foo:bar folder    notice, I said folder.  Your * will miss .* stuff
[03:36] <Falstius> arrenlex: I'll try that.  It happens every time.
[03:36] <rioghal> Schalken, have a look at ~/.bash_history
[03:36] <phixnay> woah, ok I didn't know xorg.conf needed modelines
[03:36] <jrib> math_: make sure you don't chown random system files btw
[03:36] <arrenlex> DigitalNinja: Yeah, dapper's is even older. Dapper doesn't get new package versions, only bugfix releases. The dapper-backports repository has edgy's version... you could try enabling that.
[03:37] <daftvader> yes poor Dapper
[03:37] <daftvader> I can't even get vim 7 on dapper
[03:37] <DigitalNinja_> lifepositive__: I like Dell monitors. The picture is better then nice.
[03:37] <math_> foo:bar ?
[03:37] <CyberCod> lifepositive... it can help to adjust the brightness.. to sit a little further away, and also to be in a dark room with a soft desk light
[03:37] <jrib> math_: name:group
[03:37] <arrenlex> daftvader: It's not stable anymore, just supported. If you want new versions, upgrade.
[03:37] <math_> ooh
[03:37] <math_> ok
[03:37] <math_> but I already did
[03:37] <toulouse> lifepositive_: get a mac monitor, it's $$$ but it's crisp!
[03:37] <math_> without group
[03:37] <Schalken> rioghal: aha, cheers!
[03:37] <daftvader> dapper is not stable? i thought dapper is the most stable
[03:37] <daftvader> with the LTS for 3 years
[03:37] <jrib> math_: it should work
[03:38] <crisp> oh ;)
[03:38] <jrib> math_: pastebin your example session if it didn't
[03:38] <tom_> jrib: when i try and do a alsaconf now it fails to find a card and then i get get a bunch of could not find module snd- then a bunch of different modules
[03:38] <CyberCod> Lifepositive... other than that... the headaches go away after the screen image is permanently burnt into your retinas :D
[03:38] <caminomaster> how can i preview files from ares (wine)
[03:38] <math_> jrib, i did: sudo chown math -R *
[03:38] <caminomaster> ?
[03:38] <DigitalNinja_> daftvader: What's this about dapper not being stable?
[03:38] <lifepositive__> is LCD better for eyes and to avoiud heacaches?
[03:38] <jrib> math_: what doesn't get chowned?
[03:38] <Mikey> daftvader: done, runing that gdm again, says the same thing : invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed
[03:38] <math_> the files
[03:38] <arrenlex> daftvader: By "not stable" I meant "not the current "stable" release." I didn't mean dapper itself wasn't literally stable.
[03:38] <Schalken> the only version that is unstable is the one under development - feisty fawn
[03:38] <Falstius> arrenlex: in safe mode it crashes, but if I disable javascript (uses the NoScript extension) it doesn't crash.  But I also can't log in.
[03:38] <rioghal> Schalken, Additionally, you can do: echo "" > /home/username/.bash_history
[03:38] <math_> only the direcotries did
[03:38] <DigitalNinja_> lifepositive___: I think so but you might want to ask a doctor.
[03:39] <arrenlex> Falstius: What site is this?
[03:39] <daftvader> arrenlex: can you help Mikey
[03:39] <daftvader> I am stuck
[03:39] <toulouse> lifepositive_: they sell those screen covers to help avoid eye damage and stuff, that might help. you see them on the monitors in hospitals sometimes
[03:39] <jrib> math_: name one file
[03:39] <arrenlex> Thet depends. What does Mikey need?
[03:39] <arrenlex> That *
[03:39] <Mikey> invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed
[03:39] <daftvader> can't get his gdm running
[03:39] <lifepositive__> toulouse: ah yes
[03:39] <CyberCod> Lifepositive... i'm not sure... google it... also... it may help to turn up the refresh rate... too low a refresh rate can be detected by sensitive eyes as a slight flicker and hence can give headaches from the strobe effect
[03:39] <lifepositive__> toulouse: what they called?
[03:39] <daftvader> trying to install fluxbox before installing default ubuntu gnome
[03:40] <lifepositive__> CyberCod: cheers
[03:40] <toulouse> ehhh i dont reeally know man
[03:40] <math_> erm... all files jrib
[03:40] <toulouse> ive seen em at the hostipital tho
[03:40] <arrenlex> Mikey: Run it as "sudo sh -x /etc/init.d/gdm reload" and pastebin all the output.
[03:40] <toulouse> *hospital lol
[03:40] <daftvader> lifepositive, they are call screen filters
[03:40] <horsman> heyo.
[03:40] <jrib> math_: k, pastebin:  ls -l && sudo chown foo bar && ls -l
[03:40] <steve_> phixnay: can you post your xorg.conf somewhere?
[03:41] <daftvader> use to be popular in the 90s when the refresh rate are low
[03:41] <DigitalNinja_> can I take a package from edgy and install it in dapper?
[03:41] <phixnay> yeah
[03:41] <phixnay> is the pastebin a good place?
[03:41] <CyberCod> lifepositive... i had that problem a few years back... i kept staring and it went away
[03:41] <Naik0> I need an good sound mixer, i have problems with my mic. I can hear my self but i cant talk to ppl over teamspeak
[03:41] <rioghal> DigitalNinja, that may send you straight to dependency hell, lol
[03:41] <lifepositive__> daftvader: cheers! screen filters
[03:41] <math_> jrib, brb
[03:41] <lifepositive__> CyberCod: what?
[03:41] <Mikey> arrenlex: oh god, i have it on a different machine, so cant paste bin, unless i pipe it into a file, save on floppy...
[03:41] <DigitalNinja_> rioghal: I don't want dependency hell.
[03:41] <phixnay> steve_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1007/
[03:42] <bradley_> my update manager just popped up with an update of the kernel, restricted modules and xserver but it also has a warning saying not all the updates can be installed unless i upgrade the distribution.  is that what i should do?
[03:42] <arrenlex> Mikey: Can't you upload it somewhere by FTP?
[03:42] <DigitalNinja_> rioghal: Maybe I'll just compile from source. ClamAV is giving me error messages
[03:42] <rioghal> DigitalNinja, no, you don't.. I spent two days there.. it's no fun
[03:42] <CyberCod> I had headaches from staring at my monitor a few years ago... but being the computer addict that I am... i just kept on doing what I was doing... and I guess i just got used to it.  hasn't bothered me since
[03:42] <arrenlex> Mikey: You could also stare at the output yourself until you coerce it to reveal where the problem is :)
[03:42] <DigitalNinja_> rioghal: The dapper package is old.
[03:42] <daftvader> always trust the updatemanager
[03:42] <Mikey> arrenlex: haha :(
[03:43] <linux_user400354> i have the mic volume all the way up and mic boot 20 db, but the mic sound is still low. any ideas about that?
[03:43] <rioghal> arrenlex, hahaha
[03:43] <bradley_> a distribution upgrade (using the update manager) will take me to feisty, right?
[03:43] <DigitalNinja_> rioghal: Any one who has installed Debian has been in dependency hell once or twice.
[03:43] <arrenlex> Mikey: Is this machine on a network? You could use ssh to copy the file.
[03:43] <Mikey> arrenlex: can i pipe the output in a file, save it on a flopy, and open it on my main machine, and paste viola
[03:43] <CyberCod> linux_user400whatever... is there a volume switch on the mic? do you have it plugged into the "Line In" jack?
[03:43] <arrenlex> Mikey: Sure you can, except that takes a while.
[03:43] <Jordan_U> linux_user400354: I am coming in late, is this a USB mic or is it possible you have it connected to Line in instead of mic in?
[03:44] <bradley_> and feisty is still alpha?
[03:44] <caminomaster> does anybody use ares with wine?
[03:44] <daftvader> bradley_: yes
[03:44] <linux_user400354> i have the mic volume all the way up and mic boot 20 db, but the mic sound is still low. any ideas about that?
[03:44] <CyberCod> linux_user... answer questions
[03:44] <Jordan_U> linux_user400354: What kind of mic?
[03:44] <Mikey> arrenlex: i have an ssh server with my current webhost, how can i pipe the output of the "sudo sh -x /etc/init.d/gdm reload" into a file??
[03:45] <Falstius> arrenlex: http://my.emich.edu/cp/home/loginf
[03:45] <Jordan_U> Mikey: use the > symbol to redirect to a file
[03:45] <archangelpetro> jrib, just my luck, the bloody amd64 package is not present.. :/
[03:45] <bradley_> daftvader, if that is the case why does my update manager want me to install this stuff?
[03:45] <Mikey> sudo sh -x /etc/init.d/gdm reload > output.log ?
[03:45] <rioghal> sudo sh -x /etc/init.d/gdm reload > /path/file   But that file will be owned by root
[03:46] <daftvader> bradley_: your update manager might not want you to update to fiesty
[03:46] <Mikey> its ok, im the root :D
[03:46] <daftvader> bradley_: are you running edgy?
[03:46] <arrenlex> Mikey: A minute please.
[03:46] <bradley_> daftvader, yep.
[03:46] <ademan> hey i'm having trouble opening a specific pdf file in edgy, is there any alternative program to the e-document viewer?
[03:46] <jrib> archangelpetro: heh.  Maybe ping cafuego
[03:47] <daftvader> are you sure your sources.list points to a stable release?
[03:47] <anorexicpillow> I have a question... when i go to google calendar on firefox it crashes... and same happens when i got to blogger (google login)
[03:47] <archangelpetro> jrib, it's fine.. the 32bit version is there... it's just the amd64 one isnt :/
[03:47] <someoneelse> Does &> redirect all output, including stdout and stderr? If not, what was that?
[03:47] <jrib> archangelpetro: though the source package is there.  Maybe you can build it yourself
[03:47] <steelb> is there a better way to upgrade to edgy eft from dapper drake than by changing all the sources?
[03:47] <bradley_> daftvader, how would i check that out? --does it say in the source.list file?
[03:47] <archangelpetro> jrib, that was my next line of attack :)
[03:48] <ademan> anorexicpillow: is there flash on that site?  There's a known problem with flash, but there's a fix as well, unfortunately i don't know it offhand
[03:48] <phixnay> there was a command - update manager -c or something
[03:48] <daftvader> have you modified your sources list every since installation?
[03:48] <jrib> archangelpetro: of course, the reason could also be that the package isn't there because of the same reason you can't run second life
[03:48] <anorexicpillow> im not sure if its flash...
[03:48] <phixnay> I can't remember exactly
[03:48] <anorexicpillow> but it only appears to be the google sites that shut down my browser
[03:48] <archangelpetro> jrib, rofl.. yea i considered that too :/ amd64 is such a pain in the ass
[03:48] <anorexicpillow> even youtube works
[03:49] <DaneDog> hi everyone
[03:49] <DigitalNinja_> What is this 24
[03:49] <ademan> anorexicpillow: probably has something to do with the javascript then, unfortunately i'm not aware of any problems with javascript...
[03:49] <anorexicpillow> okay
[03:49] <Tonren> Hey guys, I'm trying to enable postfix as a send-only mail server.  I'm doing web development on a laptop connected to the web through a commercial router & cable modem.  Who can help me out?
[03:49] <bradley_> daftvader, not manually but i have added some 3rd party repositories (now turned off) using synaptic
[03:49] <kb3efs> Hi this is Dave - Is anyone here have experience using Ubuntu on a laptop from www.system76.com?
[03:49] <anorexicpillow> well i guess ill just post to my blogger when on windows
[03:50] <DigitalNinja_> kb3efs: hold on
[03:50] <daftvader> then you should be fine. I really doubt update manager will upgrade your distro to fawn
[03:50] <CyberCod> I'm going to describe a glitch that I experienced about a month ago... and that my mother-in-law had this morning.  Its pretty strange, and somewhat distressing.   If anyone knows what to do... please help.  It will take a moment to type out though...
[03:50] <daftvader> must be just a typo
[03:50] <daftvader> or wrong wording
[03:50] <DaneDog> Is feisty available yet?
[03:50] <arrenlex> Mikey: Okay, googled it. Yeah: sudo sh -x /etc/init.d/gdm reload &> outlog.log
[03:50] <arrenlex> !feisty | DaneDog
[03:50] <ubotu> DaneDog: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[03:50] <daftvader> as long as your sources still says edgy you should be ok
[03:50] <MarcC-Linux> how do I access the setup for a specific screensaver?
[03:50] <ademan> !ask | CyberCod
[03:50] <ubotu> CyberCod: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:50] <MarcC-Linux> or general screensaver prefs?
[03:50] <DaneDog> cool thanks
[03:51] <arrenlex> Falstius: This may be a little late, but it doesn't crash my Firefox. Sorry about the delay...
[03:51] <bradley_> daftvader, i will double check the source.list just to be sure. thanks.
[03:51] <ademan> anorexicpillow: out of curiosity what version of firefox is it?
[03:51] <daftvader> no worries
[03:51] <rioghal> MarcC-Linux,  gnome-screensaver-preferences  ?
[03:51] <DigitalNinja_> kb3efs: Did your laptop come with ubuntu on it?
[03:51] <linux_user400354> Jordan_U: not line in, mic in because next to the port the mic is plugged into it has a picture of a mic for sure
[03:51] <Mikey> arrenlex: ok, ive got it saved, now i need help mounting a floppy drive :( (im really not this dumb)
[03:51] <anorexicpillow> the one that comes with 6.06
[03:51] <MarcC-Linux> rioghal: didn't work :-/
[03:52] <phixnay> hey everyone, i've been trying to get this screen res problem fixed, but so far no one here has known how to do it, is there anywhere else I can ask?
[03:52] <ademan> anorexicpillow: probably 1.5 then
[03:52] <arrenlex> Mikey: mount /dev/fd0
[03:52] <linux_user400354> Jordan_U: the port the mic is plugged into has a picture of a mic next to it
[03:52] <math_> jrib, http://www.pastebin.be/5084/
[03:52] <DaneDog> anyone using a unichrome video card?
[03:52] <ademan> phixnay: what seems to be the problem?
[03:52] <arrenlex> Mikey: If that doesn't work, sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
[03:52] <Falstius> arrenlex: I appreciate you checking.  If I delete the stored password for that site it no longer crashes.  The password was stored strangley too, it was just <> (empty string?)
[03:52] <math_> jrib, sorry, I was in more conversations :)
[03:52] <rioghal> MarcC-Linux,  System -> Preferences -> Screensaver  ?
[03:52] <phixnay> I can't get 1440x900 to work. xorg.conf is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1007/
[03:52] <anorexicpillow> is there a string of commands i can put in the konsole to get it updated to 2.0 easily?
[03:52] <arrenlex> Falstius: I dunno. Sounds weird, but I'd never had that problem.
[03:52] <noobcook> it says in the topic, happy new year to all ubuntu users, since my unbuntu wont install does that mean im not a user, hence no happy new year?
[03:52] <daftvader> phixnay: does your graphic card supports it?
[03:53] <MarcC-Linux> rioghal: right, but doesn't each screensaver have its own preferences?
[03:53] <MarcC-Linux> like what images to use for a slideshow, etc.
[03:53] <phixnay> I think so, it's a Geforce 7600GS 512MB
[03:53] <daftvader> phixnay: try updating your graphic driver
[03:53] <arrenlex> noobcook: Rejected!
[03:53] <kb3efs> Digital ninga - it well - asking questions before commiting$$$$
[03:53] <jrib> math_: shouldn't your chown command be something like:   sudo chown math:math *   ?
[03:53] <CyberCod> I went into my media folder, and one of the subfolders "TV Shows" had a double.. Two folders named "TV Shows".  One had everything in it... and the other had nothing.   Well, I sent the empty one to trash.  But somehow it deleted it completely instead.  And when i looked back in my media folder, both were gone.  I had deleted all my shows.  My freespace showed that they were gone as I suddenly had like 40GB more space than I had moments before.  N
[03:53] <Mikey> arrenlex: cant fint /dev/fd0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[03:53] <ademan> phixnay: does it just not show up in the resolution menu?
[03:53] <rioghal> MarcC-Linux, hmm.. I've never seen it that way with gnome screensaver.. not saying they don't, I just never saw individual prefs like that.
[03:53] <goldenchild> hey guys...I'm having an issue getting WoW to work on wine...I think it has to do with graphics drivers, as it's an odd memory error. what driver should I be using? I have a dell inspiron e1505...i've tried i810, intel, and vesa. none of them worked. thanks
[03:53] <arrenlex> Mikey: Then use the second command.
[03:53] <kb3efs> new to this type of chat BTW
[03:53] <arrenlex> (19:52:17) arrenlex: Mikey: If that doesn't work, sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
[03:54] <MarcC-Linux> rioghal: I have individual options in Kubuntu, so they've gotta be somewhere...
[03:54] <phixnay> ademan: it shows up, but when I choose it it sends me instead into 1152x870. I already have the nvidia drivers, I have the splash screen
[03:54] <loopdee> new ubuntu users needs a bit of help with installing. Booted with the cd, going through installer, manual partition editor with gparted, keeps telling me no root filesystem when one is in fact selected
[03:54] <rioghal> MarcC-Linux, You have individual options for gnome screensaver in kubuntu?
[03:54] <jrib> math_: shouldn't your chown command be something like:   sudo chown -R math:math *   ?  (forgot the -R)
[03:54] <MarcC-Linux> rioghal: no, for the xscreensaver screensavers, which also display in gnome-screensaver
[03:54] <linux_user400354> Jordan_U: "What kind of mic". A Cardioid DM-202 Dynamic Microphone that has a label with "IMP. 600" on it
[03:54] <Mikey> arrenlex: mount point /mnt/floppy does not exist
[03:54] <phixnay> loopdee: I had that problem also. I just had to go back a step, scratch all the partitions, and then try again
[03:54] <Schalken> loopdee: you need to select a partition to be mounted to /
[03:55] <math_> jrib,
[03:55] <goldenchild> yeah, whoops. wrong button. I'm back
[03:55] <arrenlex> Mikey: o_O how did you install your ubuntu?
[03:55] <ademan> phixnay: geeze, well one thing you might consider is asking in #nvidia or #kubuntu, or even #Xorg,    i dunno how much of a help they'll be but they're worth trying, and i don't think i can help you with that :-/    UNLESS it's a matter of your video card doesn't support that resolution at that refresh rate
[03:55] <Jordan_U> linux_user400354: What application are you using it in?
[03:55] <rioghal> MarcC-Linux, Be aware that the gnome devs severly hacked the xscreensavers that appear in gnome screensaver.. it could be that they took the individual prefs out.
[03:55] <loopdee> yes one is, hmm would not be able to reformat the /home, but ill try to scratch the / and swap
[03:55] <CyberCod> is there perhaps an undelete command?
[03:55] <daftvader> MIkey: cant you just type out the error?
[03:55] <jrib> math_: I also don't see any files in ~/personal
[03:55] <linux_user400354> Jordan_U: skype
[03:55] <MarcC-Linux> rioghal: wow, ok
[03:55] <daftvader> I'm sure that is not that log
[03:55] <math_> jrib, http://www.pastebin.be/5085/
[03:55] <pygi> who here uses Gnomebaker?
[03:55] <Falstius> CyberCod: sadly, no.  Its the price payed for a fast, stable file system.
[03:56] <Mikey> arrenlex: with alt CD, but install command line or something
[03:56] <daftvader> pygi:I do
[03:56] <arrenlex> CyberCod: Not in ext3 there isn't.
[03:56] <CyberCod> Bummer
[03:56] <jrib> math_: I don't see any files in that directory either and everything is owned by math
[03:56] <pygi> daftvader, shoot an opinion on http://img386.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotgnomefn3.png then :)
[03:56] <arrenlex> Mikey: Is this what you want?
[03:56] <nitromaster_> hello
[03:56] <CyberCod> she had like 140GB of shows (a real tv head)
[03:56] <phixnay> ademan: thanks, I'll try those, but I don't see how #kubuntu would help, seeing how I run gnome...
[03:56] <math_> jrib, sorry
[03:56] <math_> sec. :)
[03:56] <DaneDog> Can anyone help me with a unichrome card
[03:56] <ademan> phixnay: i figure it's an Xorg problem most likely, but i could be wrong
[03:56] <dawynn> Is there a guide for how to get a basic gameport joystick working in Ubuntu?
[03:57] <Falstius> CyberCod: what, did she rm -rf / ?
[03:57] <ademan> DaneDog: unichrome?
[03:57] <pygi> daftvader, any opinions? :)
[03:57] <kb3efs> DigitalNija: can you IM me on AIM or YAHOO?
[03:57] <Jordan_U> CyberCod: The only hope you have is that some application still has some of the files open
[03:57] <daftvader> pygi: what do you want to do?
[03:57] <daftvader> pygi: burn dvd?
[03:57] <ademan> DaneDog: ah an S3 card?
[03:57] <phixnay> ademan: ok, I'll try #xorg first then
[03:57] <DaneDog> yea... Via Unichrome Graphics card...
[03:57] <rioghal> MarcC-Linux, I just noticed something.. I took a screensaver name from the gnome screensavers (Atunnel) and did a "man Atunnel" and it worked, I got the manpage for Atunnel. Try finding a man page for the screensaver in question and see if it mentions prefs.
[03:57] <loopdee> sweet that worked , thanks
[03:57] <math_> jrib, http://www.pastebin.be/5086/ something like this dir?
[03:57] <pygi> daftvader, I'm just asking how you like the Gnomebaker druid xD
[03:57] <pygi> daftvader, /me = dev :)
[03:57] <DaneDog> yea... mine hates me...
[03:57] <DaneDog> :)
[03:57] <CyberCod> no she didn't ... she just saw two of the same folder... one of them empty... and deleted the empty one... like one is apt to do
[03:57] <ademan> DaneDog: what's the problem?
[03:57] <daftvader> pygi: oh it looks good
[03:57] <Mikey> arrenlex: well when i used the live CD, it crashed everytime, cli was the next logical option?
[03:57] <jrib> math_: sure, that one has a file called math.theme.  But it is owned by math
[03:58] <MarcC-Linux> rioghal: thanks
[03:58] <pygi> ok, anyone else with an opinion? :-)
[03:58] <] GoldenDragon> hmm.. is there a way to open PDFs in OpenOffice Writer?
[03:58] <DaneDog> well i tried the opensource drivers and i got it to work but i get a error on every glx command i run
[03:58] <arrenlex> Mikey: I mean, you want to end up with a Gnome GUI, right?
[03:58] <math_> well yes... but I cant write or something
[03:58] <CyberCod> well, in case any of you have this glitch in the future... try just rebooting..... it may sort itself out.  Don't delete
[03:58] <arrenlex> ] GoldenDragon: No.
[03:58] <Jordan_U> MarcC-Linux: Coming in late, are you trying to change screensaver prferences>
[03:58] <daftvader> pygi: trying to emulate nero style?
[03:58] <jrib> math_: look at the permissions on it
[03:58] <pygi> daftvader, no, no emulation xD
[03:58] <math_> ooh
[03:58] <goldenchild> apparently this laptop has a Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950....what driver should i be using with this card. anyone?
[03:58] <MarcC-Linux> Jordan_U: yes, is there a way?
[03:58] <rioghal> MarcC-Linux, Also, "info screensaver_name_here" may yield some help
[03:58] <pygi> daftvader, nero = ui bad :)
[03:58] <DaneDog> like what is the best driver? unichrome, openchrome or viatech drivers?
[03:58] <pygi> daftvader, but this druid is also bad, we'll fix it :)
[03:58] <math_> jrib, it has something to do with chmod???
[03:58] <Mikey> arrenlex: yea it couldnt hurt, my main goal was to get my wifi card working
[03:58] <daftvader> pygi: lol yea they are
[03:59] <jrib> math_: yes
[03:59] <jrib> !permissions | math_
[03:59] <ubotu> math_: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[03:59] <math_> jrib, oh lol
[03:59] <pygi> daftvader, they are what? :-D
[03:59] <pyr0000> help! i am tring to install network manager on my laptop that has no network connecton. i think i have the wireless all setup but my network is wpa so i need network manager. how do i install it with out the net. i coped the deb file to a cd and it siad i needed libnm-util0 so i installed that now it is saying "Dependency is not satisfiable: network-manager"
[03:59] <daftvader> pygi: nero guis are bad
[03:59] <CyberCod> pygi.. no nero = ui freaking horrible
[03:59] <math_> jrib, that was the problem :P
[03:59] <Jordan_U> MarcC-Linux: Yes, by editing the right .desktop file or using xscreensaver
[03:59] <Falstius> CyberCod: sounds like it was a link or some such.
[03:59] <ademan> DaneDog: i dunno, but what is the error you get?
[03:59] <math_> chmod -R * ?
[03:59] <pygi> CyberCod, no kidding :)
[03:59] <daftvader> pygi: what is druid by the way?
[03:59] <pygi> daftvader, I know ^_^
[03:59] <math_> chmod 777 -R *
[03:59] <DaneDog> hold on
[03:59] <arrenlex> Mikey: So you want a GUI?
[03:59] <pygi> daftvader, well, an easy way to burn cd/dvd whatever? :)
[03:59] <Jordan_U> MarcC-Linux: I made an application to do it a while back
[03:59] <Mikey> i was hoping for something small like fluxbox
[03:59] <DaneDog> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x46
[03:59] <daftvader> arrenlex: he want a fluxbox gui *sigh*
[03:59] <jrib> math_: I'd recommend choosing the "right" permissions instead of just using 777
[03:59] <phixnay> ademan: no one seems to be awake in #xorg or #nvidia :-(
[03:59] <MarcC-Linux> Jordan_U: I'd really just like it to use my desktop for distortion fx instead of showing the colorbars/fire-tv
[04:00] <math_> jrib, such as...?
[04:00] <math_> 775?
[04:00] <arrenlex> DaneDog: That's an aesthetic error that can be safely ignored.
[04:00] <daftvader> pygi: i thought the default gnomebaker is already easy
[04:00] <DaneDog> really?
[04:00] <pygi> daftvader, xD
[04:00] <pygi> daftvader, oh well :)
[04:00] <CyberCod> pygi.. i actually laughed out loud when I saw it... I really expected more from them than that... you'd think they'd be too embarrassed to release it til they got some clothes on it
[04:00] <arrenlex> DaneDog: Yes. I have it too. It's just a consequence of the open-source driver not supporting all modes.
[04:00] <jrib> math_: depends on what you will be using it for, but it doesn't look like it needs to be executed so 644 sounds better to me
[04:00] <DaneDog> why does everything i run game wise just dog so bad...
[04:00] <Mikey> arrenlex: oh dear, here some the *sigh*s, ill have whatever will work :) (and not occupy exxesive space)
[04:00] <Jordan_U> MarcC-Linux: that can be done, let me try and remember what needs changing and I'll get back to you, OK?
[04:00] <pygi> CyberCod, what do you mean? Nero or this shoot I just posted?
[04:00] <arrenlex> DaneDog: Because you're using an open-source driver. =P
[04:00] <MarcC-Linux> Jordan_U: great, thanks :)
[04:00] <math_> jrib, thnx :)
[04:01] <jrib> math_: I'm talking about math.theme only, don't 644 everything
[04:01] <DaneDog> oh... haha
[04:01] <CyberCod> pygi.. nero
[04:01] <math_> jrib, I know :)
[04:01] <pygi> CyberCod, aha, hehe :)
[04:01] <ademan> phixnay: they tend to be slow channels, whenever i ask anything there i just ask in the morning and check back every 30 minutes or so
[04:01] <DaneDog> is it better to use the properiety drivers?
[04:01] <math_> jrib, its just some personal files
[04:01] <daftvader> Mikey: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-dekstop
[04:01] <pygi> well, thanks for opinions
[04:01] <pygi> laters ;)
[04:01] <daftvader> Mikey: that would get you a basic thin desktop
[04:01] <phixnay> ademan: lol ok
[04:01] <MarcC> Jordan_U: it's busy in here, please query me if you get a chance.
[04:01] <CyberCod> danedog  depends on the card
[04:01] <arrenlex> DaneDog: Depends on your point of view. Your performance will be a lot better. But you will have proprietary components on your system.
[04:01] <daftvader> then you can be free from cli without cut and paste
[04:01] <matiu> when will edgy be released?
[04:01] <jrib> math_: you could do  u+w  to give the owner write permissions on everything recursively.  That seems ok
[04:01] <DaneDog> Via Tech
[04:01] <DaneDog> 3SG
[04:01] <Mikey> daftvader: erm, isnt that the CD with the standard live cd?
[04:02] <ademan> matiu: you mean feisty?
[04:02] <arrenlex> matiu: Edgy has been released for a few months now.
[04:02] <loopdee> is fglrx in ubuntu repository ?
[04:02] <pyr0000> how do i install network manager on a laptop with out the internet?
[04:02] <ademan> loopdee: should be
[04:02] <math_> jrib, u+w
[04:02] <math_> ?
[04:02] <matiu> oh, when I tried edgy, all my ACPI stopped working
[04:02] <CyberCod> Danedog  for some cards open source drivers are all that exist for linux
[04:02] <arrenlex> loopdee: Yes, but not by that name. I strongly suggest you follow !ati if you don't know what you're doing.
[04:02] <daftvader> Mikey: you can get it off the sources list
[04:02] <arrenlex> !ati | loopdee
[04:02] <ubotu> loopdee: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:02] <ademan> like intel i believe
[04:02] <matiu> so I went back to dapper :(
[04:02] <daftvader> MIkey: it doesn't have to be from a livecd
[04:02] <jrib> math_: read the page that I had ubotu tell you about before.  u+w means give the user write permission
[04:02] <loopdee> thanks
[04:02] <math_> ok thnx
[04:02] <DaneDog> VIAARENA.com has them but i can't compile them for the life of me :(
[04:02] <jrib> math_: ie   sudo chmod -R u+w *
[04:02] <DaneDog> i'm new to linux
[04:03] <Mikey> daftvader: ok getting it now
[04:03] <arrenlex> DaneDog: What card?
[04:03] <goldenchild> Okay, so apparently nobody knows what kind of driver I should use. where's a good place to go and find out what driver i should use? I've never had this kind of problem before
[04:03] <kyncani> !feisty | matiu
[04:03] <ubotu> matiu: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[04:03] <arrenlex> goldenchild: What driver you should use for what?
[04:03] <DaneDog> pm400
[04:03] <DaneDog> vt7205 chipset
[04:03] <arrenlex> DaneDog: ...that's a video card? o__O
[04:03] <goldenchild> arrenlex: i have a Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950 in my laptop. i've tried the vesa, i810, and intel drivers
[04:04] <arrenlex> goldenchild: You should be using i810.
[04:04] <rioghal> goldenchild, I'd recommend bookmarking: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[04:04] <pyr0000> how do i install network manager on a laptop with out the internet?
[04:04] <DaneDog> yea... it's the Viatech Unichrome Pro IGP on the PM400 board the chipset is vt7205
[04:04] <goldenchild> arrenlex: okay, then maybe the error isn't related to using the wrong card...i'm having a wine problem.
[04:04] <kyncani> pyr0000: you might check apt-zip
[04:04] <goldenchild> rioghal: thanks, i'll do that
[04:04] <bradley_> daftvader, i didn't see anything incriminating in my source.list but i am pasting it here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1011/ and would appreciate it if you would look it over.
[04:04] <arrenlex> goldenchild: What error?
[04:05] <pyr0000> kuncani: apt-zip?
[04:05] <kyncani> pyr0000: yes, apt-zip might suit you
[04:05] <pyr0000> kuncani: what does it do?
[04:05] <steve_> phixnay: did you try setting up your monitor with nvidia-settings?
[04:05] <DaneDog> I have an old ATI Rage Pro Turbo PCI card but it's only 8mb but it might work better then this unichome integrated...
[04:05] <goldenchild> arrenlex: basically, world of warcraft crashes on startup. something about a page fault. This is the first time I've tried to use WoW on a computer without an nvidia card, and I have it working on other ones. Following the same install procedure gets it to install, but it crashes when i try to play
[04:05] <phixnay> steve_: no, how do you do that?
[04:05] <kyncani> !info apt-zip | pyr0000, google for more infos
[04:05] <ubotu> apt-zip: Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.15 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 116 kB
[04:05] <arrenlex> DaneDog: Ouch. I can't imagine what would support that. Maybe ati or ati-misc?
[04:06] <DaneDog> haha
[04:06] <daftvader> bradley_: you have edgy propose in your source list
[04:06] <elyon225> Alright, guys.  I'm having a problem.  Linux is crashing on me every single time I log off (white screen, mouse frozen, Ctrl-Alt-Shift-Backspace doesn't do anything).  How would I track down and fix the cause?
[04:06] <steve_> phixnay: it almost looks like the tool they give you in windows
[04:06] <bradley_> daftvader, ah. i should take that out. thanks again.
[04:06] <daftvader> correct me if I am wrong people but doesn't propose in your source.list would make it download beta stuff?
[04:06] <phixnay> steve_ how do I get it?\
[04:06] <pagefault> well
[04:06] <pagefault> it will see your res
[04:06] <pagefault> oh
[04:06] <pagefault> nm
[04:07] <pyr0000> kuncani: i have the deb file on the laptop but when i try to install it it says "error Dependency is not satisfiable: network-manager"
[04:07] <steve_> phixnay: try sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[04:07] <DaneDog> CyberCod: have you had any experience with unichrome?
[04:07] <black_abaddon> zzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZ
[04:07] <k010> There a folder in my .Trash but i cant seem to see it thru the terminal and i cant seem to remove it from the nautils brower
[04:08] <k010> any help?
[04:08] <black_abaddon> go ro delete
[04:08] <black_abaddon> to
[04:08] <toothpick> Is there a channel for feisty?
[04:08] <kyncani> pyr0000: apt-zip will handle dependencies i think
[04:09] <philip_> #ubuntu+1
[04:09] <bimberi> toothpick: #ubuntu+1
[04:09] <pyr0000> help! i am tring to install network manager on my laptop that has no network connecton. i think i have the wireless all setup but my network is wpa so i need network manager. how do i install it with out the net. i coped the deb file to a cd and it siad i needed libnm-util0 so i installed that now it is saying "Dependency is not satisfiable: network-manager"
[04:09] <daftvader> k010: rm -rf?
[04:09] <m12> i thought open office was supposed to be able to save as PDB.  am I possibly missing a package?
[04:09] <rioghal> PDB?
[04:09] <k010> daftvader, u mean rm -rf .Trash?
[04:09] <daftvader> k010: to see it through the terminal try ls -a
[04:09] <k010> ok
[04:09] <rioghal> k010, Wouldn't that remove the .Trash folder too?
[04:09] <phixnay> Steve_:sorry, wireless being spotty. Here's what it did
[04:09] <phixnay> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[04:09] <phixnay>   nvidia-glx
[04:09] <phixnay> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[04:09] <phixnay> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[04:09] <phixnay>   nvidia-glx
[04:09] <phixnay> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[04:09] <phixnay>   nvidia-settings
[04:09] <phixnay> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:09] <daftvader> k010: no rm -rf ~/.Trash/<foldername>
[04:09] <phixnay> Need to get 514kB of archives.
[04:09] <phixnay> After unpacking 21.2MB disk space will be freed.
[04:10] <phixnay> oops
[04:10] <elyon225> Alright, guys.  I'm having a problem.  Linux is crashing on me every single time I log off (white screen, mouse frozen, Ctrl-Alt-Shift-Backspace doesn't do anything).  How would I track down and fix the cause?
[04:10] <daftvader> elyon225: check your log file
[04:10] <daftvader> /var/log/messages
[04:10] <elyon225> daftvader: Sorry... I'm really new to Linux...
[04:10] <elyon225> ahh... thank you.
[04:11] <Egonis> For some reason Firefox randomly crashes (closes) when viewing most web pages since a recent update -- anyone else experiencing this?
[04:11] <Taladan> elyon225: ctrl+alt+f2, login and then tail /var/log/messages
[04:11] <biggdoggg> I love Ubuntu
[04:11] <NoPulp> me too
[04:11] <philip_> Egonis, pretty normal to me
[04:11] <Taladan> and if you want live tracking of the shudown process, tail -f
[04:11] <pyr0000> can some one please help me install network manager on a laptop that only has wireless and can not connect untill i access wpa
[04:11] <biggdoggg> honestly i never thought software could bring me peace
[04:11] <rioghal> elyon225, Don't appologize.. nobody was born with Linux knowledge.. except for maybe Linus Torvalds 
[04:11] <Egonis> philip_: as in this happens to you all the time??
[04:12] <biggdoggg> but ubuntu hass
[04:12] <k010> daftvader, no it didnt work
[04:12] <Taladan> rioghal: I suspect he made it up as he went along ;)
[04:12] <rioghal> Taladan, hahaha
[04:12] <philip_> Egonis, firefox is stable for me, n o problems whatsoever
[04:12] <k010> daftvader, the terminal doesnt see it at all, can seem to see it
[04:12] <daftvader> k010: you mean you still can't see that folder in bash?
[04:12] <elyon225> daftvader: Would this be an error?  "Jan  5 00:00:54 rossin gconfd (root-13990): GConf server is not in use, shutting down."
[04:12] <k010> daftvader, i guess so
[04:12] <[1] Thermoriax> Hello...
[04:13] <rioghal> k010, did you try ls -la ~/.Trash  ?
[04:13] <noobcook> what was everyones first computer
[04:13] <steve_> phixnay: I just installed my nvidia drivers tonight on the machine on using right now and I used the instructions at ubuntuguide.org for the beta drivers, so I haven't really tested the beta drivers all that much but they haven't crashed on me tonight and they do come with the nvidia-settings.  I'm sorry I don't really know why your apt-get is telling you what it is.
[04:13] <philip_> Egonis, have yo installed some extensions lately?
[04:13] <Taladan> Egonis: If it's FF v2.0, I've heard about issues with it, but you'd have to research it.  Only thing I could tell you is possibly revert.
[04:13] <Egonis> philip_: Nope, but good question, I will check that
[04:13] <rioghal> [1] Thermoriax, hi
[04:13] <k010> rioghal, that command didnt show it either
[04:14] <rioghal> k010, you're kidding
[04:14] <elyon225> daftvader: Actually... that was an old entry.  I don't see anything for today that looks like an error.
[04:14] <[1] Thermoriax> What is the Live CD supposed to do, when it gets to Unpacking and Executing the Kernel... sit for a half hour...?
[04:14] <noobcook> os there a way to skip iprb0 probing on boot?
[04:14] <noobcook> is*
[04:14] <daftvader> hmm linux crash is something hard to solve
[04:14] <daftvader> my ubuntu crash when I leave it on all night
[04:14] <daftvader> I don't know why either
[04:14] <[1] Thermoriax> It would have to run first, to crash...
[04:14] <noobcook> really
[04:14] <noobcook> i can leave my terminal for like 3 days
[04:15] <Taladan> ??
[04:15] <Rookie-1> daftvader - check the logfiles
[04:15] <k010> rioghal, when i try to delete it tthu the folder i get "i do not have permission to change the parents dir"
[04:15] <daftvader> Rookie-1 I did
[04:15] <daftvader> nothing out of the ordinary
[04:15] <Jordan_U> [1] Thermoriax: Did you check that the CD isn't scratched?
[04:15] <elyon225> daftvader: I know exactly WHEN and HOW it crashes for me, I just don't know WHY.  I can even reproduce it any time I want.
[04:15] <Taladan> daftvader: could possibly be a problem with the hardware overheating maybe?
[04:15] <daftvader> what does the --MARK-- part of the log file mean?
[04:15] <Jordan_U> elyon225: when / how does it crash?
[04:15] <elyon225> daftvader: I have that too :)
[04:16] <Rookie-1> kind of timestamp
[04:16] <rioghal> k010, So, according to CLI, the folder isn't there.. but according to nautilus, it is there?
[04:16] <elyon225> Jordan_U: Every time I log out of a user.  White screen, mouse locked... keyboard locked.
[04:16] <k010> rioghal, yep
[04:16] <elyon225> Jordan_U: I need to restart every time.
[04:16] <Jordan_U> elyon225: Can you get to a tty?
[04:16] <elyon225> Jordan_U: What is TTY?
[04:16] <daftvader> Taladan: I don't think it is the hardware
[04:17] <milo> i look 4 help but can't see how to add switch language bar
[04:17] <k010> rioghal, CLI > is it command line interface?
[04:17] <rioghal> k010, I would be more apt to believe CLI in that kind of conflict.. I've seen nautilus do some weird stuff.. that folder may not be there and nautilus is just being a tard
[04:17] <milo> how do i do
[04:17] <Taladan> elyon225: when it locks like that, try going to another shell window (ctrl+alt+f2), it may just be a problem with X
[04:17] <Jordan_U> elyon225: It is a terminal you can use when X crashes
[04:17] <rioghal> k010, yes
[04:17] <daftvader> Taladan: I can use it for the whole day without it locking up. but if I leave overnight, the next morning it just lock up
[04:17] <daftvader> Taladan: well not really locks up but commands takes 10 minutes to executes
[04:17] <elyon225> Taladan: I've tried the Crtl-Alt-Shift-Backspace but nothing happens...  is there any reason to think Crtl-Alt-F2 would work?
[04:17] <Jordan_U> elyon225: ctrl+alt+F1 to get to it, ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to X
[04:18] <Taladan> daftvader: do you have any odd cronjobs scheduled for it to do overnight?
[04:18] <k010> rioghal, it shows that the folder has about 75MB
[04:18] <CyberCod> I've been getting hard lockups on my son's computer when opengl screensavers are showing..is there a way to disable just the opengl screensavers?
[04:18] <k010> rioghal, not thru the terminal
[04:18] <daftvader> Taladan: nope i turn off cron all together
[04:18] <Jordan_U> elyon225: Yes, it is very possible that it is only X that has crashed
[04:18] <CyberCod> if you haven't noticed yet, I've installed ubuntu on just about every PC i have access to
[04:18] <Taladan> elyon225: because ctrl+alt+f2 switches to another term window, leaving X alone.
[04:19] <[1] Thermoriax> TTY = Teletype... old machine that took accoustic modem codes, and typed out letters...  your typing was also printed, and echoed up the modem line... an old, hardware dumb terminal...
[04:19] <elyon225> Taladan: So once I do that, what do I do?  My computer takes about 6 minutes to boot so its a pain to keep restarting without knowing what to look for ;)
[04:19] <metal03> I'm having problems installing wine no matter what guide I'm trying to follow...  anyone can gimmi a hand on a separate channel?
[04:19] <rioghal> k010, Do you have any other file manager installed? (Like gnome-commander, or konqueror, etc)
[04:19] <daftvader> Taladan: I suspect my bios hibernate my computer but this doesn't happen in windoze
[04:19] <Jordan_U> CyberCod: You can move their .desktop files to another folder, the files are in /usr/share/applications/screensavers on Edgy
[04:19] <Taladan> daftvader: try running the command top and let it run in a term window overnight and see what's using up your memory. Sounds like a runaway process
[04:19] <Taladan> daftvader: that's possible too
[04:20] <k010> rioghal, no i dnt, shall i install gnome-commander i never used it before
[04:20] <daftvader> Taladan: how can you shut down X to command line?
[04:20] <Taladan> elyon225: if it lets you go over to the 2 term, then just login and kill X.  startx should bring it back up.
[04:20] <rioghal> k010, no, I was just thinking
[04:20] <k010> rioghal, how do u tell X to use what file manager
[04:20] <CyberCod> Yay mother-in-law's files were in the trash
[04:21] <rioghal> k010, What is the name of the folder in ~/.Trash that you're having trouble with?
[04:21] <Jordan_U> daftvader: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop
[04:21] <elyon225> Taladan: And to track down the problem?  I have other family members that aren't going to be able to do that every time...
[04:21] <Mikey> daftvader: how long should the install of xbuntu-desktop be? im getting a black screen and loads of HDD activity
[04:21] <Taladan> daftvader: if you want to /always/ start at the command line and have to type startx every time change /etc/inittab to init level 3 instead of 5.
[04:21] <elyon225> Taladan: Perhaps I should see if its just X first, eh? ;)
[04:21] <JonTec__> hey, how do I connect to an adhoc network?
[04:21] <k010> wlan-intel-105159-1050174
[04:21] <k010> rioghal, wlan-intel-105159-1050174
[04:21] <Taladan> elyon225: To track it down then I would either cat /var/log/messages or tail /var/log/messages
[04:21] <daftvader> MIkey: It shouldn't be that long
[04:21] <JonTec__> sorry, more specific, how do I connect to a windows ad hoc network?
[04:22] <JonTec__> wireless
[04:22] <Taladan> elyon225: if it's not in there then try doing a cat ~/.xsession-errors
[04:22] <daftvader> MIkey: blackscreen? uh oh just wait till the hdd settles down, i think it is trying to install your graphic drivers
[04:22] <rioghal> k010, You can try CTRL+ALT+F1, run "sudo updatedb && locate wlan-intel-105159-1050174" and see if the console sees it. If it doesn't, I'd guess nautilus is being an idiot.
[04:22] <black_abaddon> JonTec: whats the time?
[04:22] <[1] Thermoriax> QUIT
[04:22] <JonTec__> black_abaddon: 10:22
[04:22] <black_abaddon> in the morning??
[04:22] <Mikey> daftvader:not long, huh, ubuntu cli install took over an hour
[04:22] <tom_> hey guys i broke my sound trying to install some drivers, is there any way to restore the ones that ubuntu installed by default?
[04:23] <Mikey> and i went for tea so i dont knw
[04:23] <Mikey> know*
[04:23] <JonTec__> black_abaddon: 10:22pm
[04:23] <metal03> I am totally lost with this wine installation...  I'd like to give you more information on the status of it but I am realy totally lost...  I dunno what I've tried anymore...  anyone can help me?
[04:23] <daftvader> MIkey: really? it only takes 10 minutes for me
[04:23] <arrenlex> Mikey: What machine? Mine took no more than 5.
[04:23] <daftvader> MIkey: when you say cli install did you mean you install a LAMP?
[04:23] <k010> rioghal, ok be bk soon
[04:23] <fiveiron> ugh
[04:23] <fiveiron> i'm about ready to do a clean install of 6.10 ... this is irritating me
[04:24] <Mikey> daftvader: no not lamp, ubuntu install, but without x
[04:24] <black_abaddon> JonTec: i am from CROATIA sow i just wanted to know what time it is where ever you gays are
[04:24] <daftvader> fiveiron: why?
[04:24] <JonTec__> black_abaddon: okay? :D
[04:24] <rioghal> Mikey, I installed the alternate CD (6.06.1 LTS) This morning on an Athlon 2800+, 1Gb ram and it took about 15 minutes.
[04:24] <Mikey> daftvader: my machine is an onl (2002) AJP laptop, 750Mhz 128Mb Ram, 10Gig Hdd
[04:24] <Egonis> I was not asked to set a root pw on install of Edgy Eft, and when I do a Package Upgrade, it prompts me for a password, of which I enter the default user pwd.
[04:24] <Egonis> I want to edit a file in /etc, and cannot su -- what is the root pw? how do I get to modify files in /etc?
[04:25] <elyon225> Taladan: Well crap.  It did it three times today and now it won't do it again.
[04:25] <daftvader> mikey: with that low spec you shouldn't use ubuntu
[04:25] <Mikey> daftvader: its got shorted USB port =S
[04:25] <black_abaddon> i dont know
[04:25] <gili> i have a questions about GNU chess.....?
[04:25] <rioghal> elyon225, Murphy's law? lol
[04:25] <daftvader> mikey: not the gui anyway
[04:25] <fiveiron> well apparently when i upgrade to 6.10, it didn't complete? or something... but mplayer and libggi2 have been sitting in my dist upgrades not able to be installed for a while, and stuff is slowly breaking... like now i can't run amarok because of some weird problem with xine
[04:25] <Mikey> daftvader: but i chose cli, (yes not the gui)
[04:25] <gili> can someone tell me if it is normall for CPU to be running at 100% during chess game
[04:25] <elyon225> rioghal: Yeah, figures lol.  It will do it to one of my family members when I'm not around lol
[04:25] <Taladan> Mikey: if you want an X-less ubuntu install, try doing just the server install disc?  It's smaller and you can always add whichever desktop/display manager you want to it later.
[04:26] <JonTec__> help.... meeeeee... :D I need to connect to a wireless windows ad hoc network and I installed the package mobilemesh, but still no luck T_T
[04:26] <rioghal> elyon225, hahaha
[04:26] <CyberCod> black_abaddon  the other day when you had the trojan... what did you use to detect it?
[04:26] <daftvader> Mikey: you can try gentoo
[04:26] <Taladan> elyon225: Always the way, eh?  I've gotta step afk for a bit...good luck with that X problem.
[04:26] <Mikey> daftvader: and when i did install a gui, it was fast enough for me, but it didnt detect wifi card so i got angr and formated :(
[04:26] <JohnnyX_> anyone know of a program that i can leave messages for people when they open the lid of my laptop?
[04:26] <JohnnyX_> or a shell script or something
[04:26] <black_abaddon> i  lied there were no trojan, but i am glad you remember me
[04:26] <fiveiron> daftvader: and now when i try and run a distribution upgrade it says there was a problem calculating the upgrade....
[04:26] <gili> can someone tell me if it is normall for CPU to be running at 100% during chess game
[04:26] <gili> ?
[04:26] <CyberCod> oh you booger!
[04:26] <arrenlex> JohnnyX_: Why don't you just stick on a post-it note? =P
[04:27] <Falstius> gili: is it beating you?
[04:27] <CyberCod> black_abaddon... you had me so worried I've just installed Avast Antivirus for Linux
[04:27] <daftvader> fiveiron: yea I have some problem with my 6.10 upgrade
[04:27] <black_abaddon> sorry man
[04:27] <daftvader> you just need to be patience
[04:27] <black_abaddon> peace?
[04:27] <gili> Falstius: always :-)
[04:28] <CyberCod> sure... I probably need it anyway... you just messed with my head royally
[04:28] <gili> i just wanted to know if it is normall for it to be running 100% CPU
[04:28] <daftvader> fiveiron: check your sources list
[04:28] <Falstius> gili: which chess program?
[04:28] <fiveiron> daftvader: even just tried upgrading to 7.04 ... no go on that either... some problem with the security key
[04:28] <black_abaddon> yea that was the intention
[04:28] <gili> i have several..
[04:28] <black_abaddon> buth a good one
[04:28] <gili> use GNU chess engine
[04:28] <CyberCod> you do know you are a twerb... right?
[04:28] <black_abaddon> twerb?
[04:28] <black_abaddon> elaborate
[04:29] <CyberCod> i made it up... like you made up the virus
[04:29] <daftvader> fiveiron: just use 6.10 sources.list
[04:29] <black_abaddon> haha
[04:29] <black_abaddon> thats the way!
[04:29] <daftvader> for any security key, look them up on google
[04:29] <JohnnyX_> lol arrenlex
[04:29] <JohnnyX_> its not as effective
[04:29] <JohnnyX_> and its for when they are on the computer
[04:29] <metal03> Anyone good enough to help me install wine....?  I tried...  but I'm too new to Linux to understand properly what went wrong!
[04:29] <JohnnyX_> so i just figured it would be something useful
[04:29] <mikebroberts> hi there - noobie here - can anyone lend me a hand setting up a wireless connection on a new 6.10 install?
[04:29] <daftvader> metal03: sudo apt-get install wine
[04:30] <Jordan_U> metal03: sudo apt-get install wine done.
[04:30] <arrenlex> JohnnyX_: If you have a GUI, you can make a script for when gnome autostarts.
[04:30] <JohnnyX_> im really new to scripting
[04:30] <JohnnyX_> not that advanced yet
[04:30] <syllogism> metal03: there's a #winehq channel I believe. . but wine is pretty easy to install
[04:31] <lovloss> what do i use to ask ubuntu for info about my computer (processor, card, motherboard, etc)
[04:31] <lovloss> mostly card and MB
[04:31] <rioghal> JohnnyX_,  http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
[04:31] <syllogism> lovloss: what 'card'?
[04:31] <black_abaddon> you gays are great, i have no idea of what you are talking about but i still love being here
[04:32] <daftvader> loveloss: dmesg
[04:32] <lovloss> er sorry cpu
[04:32] <k010> rioghal, well the locate found the folder but it was in my home dir, i deleted it but the folder is still in the ~/.Trash
[04:32] <black_abaddon> silence
[04:32] <JohnnyX_> im actually looking for a good hard copy on all the things you need to know and all the things you dont about linux
[04:32] <Falstius> gili: there should be a chess game in the "add/remove applications" games list.
[04:32] <Mikey> daftvader: my gooooooooooooood this install takes its time
[04:33] <JohnnyX_> like how to edit configuration files an make you own settings
[04:33] <rioghal> k010, And from nautilus, File -> Empty Trash  doesn't help?
[04:33] <syllogism> lovloss: if I want to get some information about devices on a system, I do an lspci -vvv
[04:33] <rioghal> JohnnyX_, http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/Bash-Beginners-Guide.html
[04:33] <lovloss> ok :D thats better
[04:33] <black_abaddon> i love you gays!
[04:33] <rioghal> JohnnyX_, I don't know about hard copies, but I couldn't live without this site:  http://www.tldp.org/
[04:34] <k010> rioghal, no i still get the error
[04:34] <black_abaddon> not in a gay way
[04:34] <JohnnyX_> im looking for something hard copy for when im at work , there isnt any wireless connections around
[04:34] <rioghal> k010, Weirdness.. maybe try posting on http://ubuntuforums.org
[04:34] <k010> rioghal, its says i dont have permission but i cant seem to change the permission since i cant see the folder thu cli
[04:34] <jrib> JohnnyX_: the rute book is good, you can always print it
[04:34] <jrib> !rute | JohnnyX_
[04:34] <ubotu> JohnnyX_: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[04:34] <JohnnyX_> true
[04:34] <daftvader> JohnyX_ check amazon
[04:34] <JohnnyX_> i just prefer books though
[04:35] <JohnnyX_> i have
[04:35] <JohnnyX_> there are alot
[04:35] <JohnnyX_> and i dont know what one to get
[04:35] <lovloss> lspci isnt helping. i want to know about my motherboard
[04:35] <JohnnyX_> im looking for the best book you can get
[04:35] <jrib> JohnnyX_: o'reilly books are usually good
[04:35] <gili> i have a chess game....i was wondering if it is normall for chess games to take up 100% cpu
[04:35] <syllogism> lovloss: maybe you could tell me what your looking for??
[04:35] <rioghal> JohnnyX_, "best" is quite relative.. what I feel is best may not interest you at all. I find it best to pick a subject and then explore books on that subject.
[04:35] <sleepy745> how do I make windows wobble in beryl?
[04:35] <k010> rioghal, i have another question if u dont mind
[04:36] <rioghal> k010, Not at all 
[04:36] <daftvader> k010: run a fsck
[04:36] <overridex> gili: hehe, probably not
[04:36] <lovloss> syllogism: My motherboard's model and capabilities. also my cpus... im trying to decide what i need to upgrade
[04:36] <k010> rioghal, when i try to switch using ctrl-alt-f1
[04:36] <syllogism> gili: normally no - is it consistent or does it always run @100% ?
[04:36] <riotkittie> JohnnyX_: good luck with that. i've asked for actual book suggestions repeatedly and people just link to docs :P
[04:36] <gili> syllogism:uses 100% non stop
[04:36] <k010> rioghal, system crashes wen a colorfull screen
[04:37] <daftvader> lovloss: your mobo should have information either on bios
[04:37] <gili> it freaks me out so i turn it off
[04:37] <k010> rioghal, *with
[04:37] <daftvader> or just open the lid and have a look
[04:37] <syllogism> lovloss: . . . if you have an oem machine, look it up on the internet - otherwise pop open the case and find some identification on the motherboard and then look that up on the net
[04:37] <syllogism> as far as cpu information
[04:37] <syllogism> cat /proc/cpuinfo should suffice
[04:37] <steve_> does anyone here know how to get dmraid working with nvriad in Edgy?
[04:37] <Falstius> gili: gnuchess uses ~100% of my cpu also
[04:37] <lovloss> ok thanks
[04:37] <rioghal> k010, Hmm.. you may have much larger problems than just a rogue folder. Again, try posting to http://ubuntuforums.org
[04:37] <riotkittie> JohnnyX_: from what i recall, Oreilly's Linux in a nutshell is pretty good, if youre not seeking something distro specific
[04:37] <dxdt> sleepy745, they should wobble by default if not open up the little settings manager and it should be in there.  Make sure it is enabled.
[04:37] <gili> ok
[04:38] <dxdt> gili, it does that when it is thinking hard, yeah
[04:38] <Falstius> gili: except it is more like 90 since I have vmware running in the background.
[04:38] <k010> rioghal, i think its my video driver but not really sure
[04:38] <syllogism> gili: try gnuchess ?
[04:38] <daftvader> lol
[04:38] <gili> i use gnuchess
[04:38] <rioghal> JohnnyX_, riotkittie has a good point, I saw that book at Barnes & Noble but didn't have the money for it.. I would love to have that book.
[04:38] <daftvader> that's the problem
[04:38] <daftvader> lfmao
[04:38] <syllogism> gili: sounds like a bug or something hehe - shouldn't always utilize 100% cpu haha
[04:39] <Mikey> daftvader: erm, i just realised that my sceen goes black after a while so i pressed a key and its still in CLI
[04:39] <gili> thats what i am trying to figure out....
[04:39] <riotkittie> rioghal: i am going to have to buy a copy. i checked it out of the library a few years ago when i was dabbling in Slackware.
[04:39] <daftvader> Mikey: lmfao
[04:39] <Mikey> daftvader: 8-)
[04:39] <daftvader> Mikey: is it still installing?
[04:39] <gili> doesnt sound rite for a simple game to take 100% cpu
[04:39] <rioghal> rioghal, It's a good book.
[04:39] <Mikey> daftvader: uyp
[04:39] <Mikey> yup*
[04:39] <daftvader> Mikey: ah that's probably ok
[04:39] <riotkittie> Oreilly also has a Ubuntu specific book but i'm not sure how in depth it is
[04:39] <nagromo> Hey, I'm trying to set up Ubuntu on a desktop, but I'm getting really slow internet access.
[04:40] <riotkittie> i have it on my disk in CHM form but havent really done more than glance at it
[04:40] <riotkittie> then there's um ... hold on, brb
[04:40] <daftvader> gili: you can try to set the niceness of it
[04:40] <Mikey> daftvader: what if its in a loop =P installing, uninstaling, removing, apt-getting, installing... you get it
[04:40] <gili> i had the program running for the entire time i was taking a bath...since i had no time restrictions...when i came back the computer was almost on fire !!!
[04:40] <gili> :-)
[04:40] <syllogism> gili: what is the name of this chess game?
[04:40] <Falstius> gili: it is thinking while you are making your move and analyzing all possible moves as far as possible.
[04:40] <daftvader> Mikey: i don't think so Mikey, this is apt-get not m$
[04:40] <Mikey> haha
[04:40] <sleepy745> windows wobble is checked
[04:41] <archangelpetro> Am i correct in thinking there's no wine package for amd64 dapper?
[04:41] <nagromo> ping works fine (60 ms ping to google), and internet works well on my laptop running XP, but on the Ubuntu desktop, trying to go to www.google.com will usually time out (not always, just usually)
[04:41] <daftvader> Mikey: well it usually show the component that is installing
[04:41] <gili> yes i figured the game woould be taxing but didnt think it would eat up over 90% of cpu resources
[04:41] <daftvader> you can find out
[04:41] <sleepy745> how do I make them wobble, can someone give me a way to do anything ith beryl?
[04:41] <Mikey> daftvader: eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer it spat out ~$ at me =S what do i do?
[04:41] <riotkittie> theres Sams Ubuntu Unleashed
[04:41] <daftvader> startx
[04:41] <Falstius> gili: come on, they use fast supercomputers in the world to beat the best human chess players.
[04:41] <gili> righ
[04:41] <gili> right *
[04:41] <ShiftyPowers> anyone know which packages I should remove to get rid of compiz
[04:41] <riotkittie> and Oreilly Ubuntu Hacks, Tips & Tools for Exploring, Using & Tuning Linux
[04:41] <Mikey> daftvader: baaah another error
[04:42] <ShiftyPowers> i want to replace it with beryl
[04:42] <daftvader> what is it?
[04:42] <nagromo> I'm connecting through a Foxconn WiFi card to a DSL router. The WiFi card uses the rt2500 driver
[04:42] <daftvader> ShiftyPowers: sudo apt-get remove compiz --purge
[04:43] <Mikey> daftvader: it scrolled of the screen, but the last bits read "error opening /dev/wacom : inavlid argument"
[04:43] <black_abaddon> i have nintetendo 64, how can i conect it if i even can to my linux?
[04:43] <daftvader> lol Mikey: any other error?
[04:43] <Falstius> I still think go is more interesting.
[04:44] <nagromo> Hello, could someone help me?
[04:44] <Mikey> daftvader: i cant see, it scrolled up, can i pipe it into an SSH window?
[04:44] <syllogism> black_abaddon: your best bet would probably be duck tape
[04:44] <arrenlex> Mikey: shift+pgup
[04:45] <black_abaddon> i will try, thanks!
[04:45] <Bruco16> can i pipe /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket ??
[04:45] <tom_> hey guys ive broken my sound in edgy, but when i reinstall alsa it doesn't work. i'm hoping that the newer drivers in feisty work, is it possible to install the feisty alsa packages into edgy?
[04:45] <arrenlex> syllogism: It's "duct tape".
[04:45] <Bruco16> (to stdout)
[04:45] <Tenric> IntuitiveNipple, join me in #tenric
[04:45] <Tenric> and anyone else who wants to, I guess.
[04:46] <syllogism> arrenlex: it's a bad habit I picked up - moving to the south ^__^
[04:46] <Mikey> daftvader: no its further up, can i pipe the output into an SSH so (i have a way of saving it on my desktop)
[04:46] <arrenlex> syllogism: Y'all batter lurnta speel when y'all're'ound thees parts!
[04:46] <Mikey> daftvader: so you can read it
[04:47] <syllogism> arrenlex: I reckon
[04:47] <kyncani> Mikey: you might want "script" (the command)
[04:47] <riotkittie> but there is a brand of duct tape called Duck Tape
[04:47] <riotkittie> so we'll let it slide
[04:47] <Mikey> kyncani: i dont quite understand that :S
[04:47] <farkr> if my / partition is 4gb will that be enough to mount /media/hda1 (my windows partition) or does mounting other partitions not matter for what size / is?
[04:47] <arrenlex> Mikey: are you trying to redirect the output of startx? "startx &> /tmp/out.log"
[04:47] <daftvader> i don't think you can pipe the output to an ssh
[04:47] <arrenlex> Mikey: Or you could just check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log. It's all in there.
[04:47] <kyncani> Mikey: man script might enlighten you
[04:48] <sleepy745> how do i update kernel when I upgrade my video drivers,,
[04:48] <Falstius> arrenlex: considering that "duct tape" is just about the worst thing to use to fix ducts, I think misspelling it is appropriate.
[04:48] <riotkittie> farkr: mounting other partitions has nothing to do with the size of your / part
[04:48] <syllogism> farkr: hehe - you don't need any extra space to mount a partition
[04:48] <jackson3246> how do I make a .iso image from a CD?
[04:48] <arrenlex> Falstius: No matter how poorly duct tape performs at fixing ducts, I assume it is worse at fixing ducks.
[04:48] <riotkittie> :P
[04:48] <arrenlex> jackson3246: dd if=/dev/hdc of=/tmp/out.iso
[04:48] <daftvader> lol
[04:48] <Mikey> arrenlex: but then how would i send the file? im confused, can i pipe a file into an ssh shell?
[04:49] <lovloss> Ok so i found  that my board is a foxconn 748k7aa using an AMD Athlon model 8 processor (1.5 ghz). Its crap, yes, yes, i know. Now, i went online and looked all that up and all i found were places to buy stuff. Anyone know where i should look?
[04:49] <syllogism> jackson3246: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=myiso.iso
[04:49] <riotkittie> yes, for fixing ducks, one should definitely go for krazy glue and a ubuntu live cd
[04:49] <jackson3246> syllogism: thanks
[04:49] <lovloss> that is, to upgrade... or to find out whqt it can handle
[04:49] <riotkittie> although, come to think of it, i wouldnt use a ubuntu live disc to fix anything :P
[04:49] <syllogism> riotkittie: that only works for fixing windows
[04:49] <daftvader> lovloss: google for its review
[04:49] <lovloss> hmm
[04:50] <rioghal> riotkittie,  http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page  
[04:50] <JonTec__> HELP ME: :D last time I'm asking. :( ... I am trying to connect to a windows ad-hoc network... I see a command on ubuntu forums... but I'm not trying to set it up... I'm trying to "see" the network... in windows on the comp, I can connect fine.
[04:50] <syllogism> lovloss: what kind of system are you wanting to build? - a gaming system? a server, a multimedia desktop? give us some details
[04:51] <syllogism> JonTec__: open system or no?
[04:51] <hoste> clear
[04:51] <hoste> can you help me with samba please ?
[04:51] <JonTec__> syllogism: what do you mean?
[04:51] <riotkittie> brb
[04:51] <jackson3246> arrenlex, syllogism: I did that and it returns "'/media/cdrom0' is a directory" and then shows 0 records in and out and outputs nothing
[04:51] <daftvader> hoste: what's wrong with samba?
[04:52] <syllogism> jackson3246: I said /dev/cdrom - not /media/cdrom0
[04:52] <arrenlex> jackson3246: Copy and paste: dd if=/dev/hdc of=out.iso
[04:52] <hoste> daftvader: I have a question ... I will show you a tree of files wait
[04:52] <arrenlex> jackson3246: That is the exact command. Nothing needs to be changed or adapted to your system.
[04:52] <syllogism> JonTec__: are you using any form of wireless security? - WEP, WPA?
[04:52] <jackson3246> arrenlex, syllogism: oh... thanks. haha
[04:52] <JonTec__> syllogism: I think I see something here on ubuntu forums... mode change. :D why are the forums so much more helpful than the wiki!?!
[04:53] <JonTec__> syllogism: none. :D
[04:53] <nagromo> Hello, I'm having trouble with Ubuntu
[04:53] <icedout3e> anyone know if its possible to connect a Zune to ubuntu?
[04:53] <hoste> daftvader: patch.timesofcoffee.com/data/files/tree.xls this is the  tree, is it possible to make this tree with samba ?
[04:53] <syllogism> JonTec__: hope the forums help ^__^
[04:53] <syllogism> icedout3e: The linux community tries to avoid viruses as much as possible
[04:54] <hoste> daftvader: there are the folders and inside there are the users thath will have permission to edit sometin on all  those files !
[04:54] <exs> Does anyone know if IDE is faster or slow than SATA II ?
[04:54] <icedout3e> viruses...is that a joke?
[04:54] <daftvader> hmm
[04:54] <hoste> daftvader: but I don't know how to do ... I'm trying to do a data server using samba and all the pc here or almost all has windows !
[04:55] <arrenlex> icedout3e: I believe he was calling the zune itself a virus.
[04:55] <daftvader> have you ever used samba before?
[04:55] <robert____> am i usingthe correct command to determine what my wireless card is, lspci
[04:56] <daftvader> robert___: yes
[04:56] <syllogism> robert____: lspci -vvv; and if that doesn't give you enough information pop open the case
[04:56] <riotkittie> ahh that system rescue cd looks cool but i dont really see a need for it. though i might make a copy ... but i've got slax (and knoppix, for when i'm feeling masochistic) so i'm
[04:56] <robert____> its a laptop
[04:57] <riotkittie> pretty much covered on that front
[04:57] <robert____> but i will issue that command
[04:57] <hoste> daftvader: just I need to share some folders, but as you can see I need to have some users with some privilegies
[04:57] <syllogism> robert____: you might try "lspci -vvv | grep -i wireless"
[04:57] <daftvader> hoste: well the users on samba will be different from the users on windows
[04:57] <syllogism> robert____: doesn't mean you can't pop it open to find out what card is in it ^__^
[04:58] <daftvader> hoste: you have to create samba users - ( may be the same name as windows users)
[04:58] <linux_user400354> when is fiesty coming out and what is the webpage that shows its schedule?
[04:58] <arrenlex> !feisty | linux_user400354
[04:58] <ubotu> linux_user400354: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[04:58] <linux_user400354> how much better is fiesty going to be than edgy?
[04:58] <robert____> syllogism:  is that three v's?
[04:58] <arrenlex> linux_user400354: 58.25%
[04:58] <daftvader> hoste: check www.ubuntuguide.org to see how to create users and share a folder on samba
[04:58] <hoste> daftvader: I have all al ready but I don't know how to give privilegis and accses to differents files !
[04:59] <riotkittie> feisty will be out in april
[04:59] <neighborlee> Arriba, Arriba, Andale!, Andale! , EEEhaaa!! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ( bbl )
[04:59] <syllogism> robert____: the first thing I would try is an lspci, if that didn't work for you, I would say try the internet and lookup your laptop(most of the time pretty standard for consumers), and if that didn't work - I'd open up
[04:59] <daftvader> hoste: then make them the same as your linux user
[04:59] <robert____> syllogism: i dont get an output
[04:59] <hoste> daftvader: I know how to create ... at this momment I have a network with linux windows but I need to make a provilegis of a users
[05:00] <juicyfish> Does anyone know of a good (stable release) music player for GTK? I'm using VLC right now, but I'd like something a little.. nicer to play my M4A archives.
[05:00] <syllogism> robert____: if you don't get any output - you'll have to read through the long listing of devices without greping for 'wireless' hehe
[05:00] <riotkittie> i play them in xmms
[05:00] <syllogism> juicyfish: I looked for the same a while back. . I think I ended up using mplayer
[05:00] <hoste> daftvader: ... I have 7 users on linux, and all the pc's now has the owner user an d pass and all the pc's can accses to the server but now the problemis:
[05:01] <riotkittie> though i prefer playing from the command line ;p
[05:01] <arrenlex> juicyfish, riotkittie: xmms is gtk+, not gtk2. You could try beep-media-player or bmpx.
[05:01] <juicyfish> :P
[05:01] <riotkittie> arrenlex: i have beep installed, too.
[05:01] <arrenlex> riotkittie: Why? xmms and beep are clones.
[05:01] <syllogism> riotkittie: ever used cmus?
[05:01] <riotkittie> arrenlex: because i can ;p
[05:01] <robert____> syllogism: so just lspci then? if so i get two possibilites network controller :broadcom  and ethernet c\ontroller: intel corporation
[05:02] <juicyfish> I'll check those out, thanks. I've had a tough time finding stuff that'll cooperate with my files.
[05:02] <hoste> daftvader: how can I give them privileges and how can that some users doesn't privileges to accses of some folders you know
[05:02] <riotkittie> arrenlex:  actually, i was going to replace the former with the latter but never got around to it
[05:02] <daftvader> hoste: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_share_group_folders_with_read.2Fwrite_permissions_.28Authentication.3DYes.29
[05:02] <Tenric> could anyone tell me why certain web pages' text shows up as some Indian font?
[05:02] <hoste> daftvader: in the tree.xls there are some folders with some users thath I need that has a privileges to accses and write but others no
[05:02] <syllogism> robert____: look up the two devices and see which one is a wireless card, because that's not enough info for us hehe
[05:02] <Mikey> daftvader: the error is "(EE) xf89OpenSerial: : Cannot open device /dev/wacom
[05:03] <arrenlex> riotkittie: I used to use xmms, except it started crashing for some reason... I installed beep, but it didn't have the doublesize mode my eyes had grown used to. So I ended up with amarok.
[05:03] <arrenlex> Mikey: That is nonfatal.
[05:03] <juicyfish> I tried Amarok.
[05:03] <Mikey> daftvader: im going to try reinstalling ubunbtu with x tomorrow, because i think this one is screwed royaly
[05:03] <juicyfish> I have an external sound card right now and it refuses to acknowledge its existence.
[05:03] <riotkittie> i tend to stick with mpg123 most of the time.
[05:03] <daftvader> hoste: that would show you how to create folders and permission for each users
[05:03] <arrenlex> juicyfish: That's alsa, not amarok.
[05:04] <syllogism> I liked streaming music in amarok
[05:04] <robert____> syllogism
[05:04] <daftvader> Mikey: yes i think that is a good idea. May be it is the laptop
[05:04] <juicyfish> ?
[05:04] <riotkittie> eeeew, double size drives me nuts.  :)
[05:04] <juicyfish> Amarok still refused to play my music ;.;
[05:04] <hoste> daftvader: is this the correct manner to do ? valid users = system_username1 system_username2 for example !
[05:04] <varsendaggr> hey i have an mp3 player that i want to install ubuntu with...     i am following the instructions that make it bootable but i get the error that only 512 byte sectors are supported...   how do i work around this?
[05:04] <Mikey> daftvader: it is indeed
[05:04] <nagromo> Hey, I'm having issues with wireless (just installed) in Ubuntu 6.06. I checked with 'lsmod | grep rt2500' and it returns a line showing that the module is loaded. (According to google and 'lspci | grep Wireless', that is the chipset my card uses). I went in with the Ubuntu network configuration tool, enabled wireless, disabled ethernet, and entered the SSID and key (WEP 40-bit). It said I connected at 99% strength, and I can ping www.google.
[05:04] <arrenlex> juicyfish: Of course. Amarok is a high-class music player. It won't play your trash.
[05:04] <daftvader> hoste: yes it is in the smb.conf
[05:04] <riotkittie> i should check amarok out. its a kde app, right?
[05:04] <hoste> daftvader: that would show you how to create folders and permission for each users |||||| I don't understand you !
[05:04] <hoste> daftvader: humm ok ! but imagine !!! wait...
[05:04] <daftvader> hoste: remember to back up the smb.conf first
[05:04] <syllogism> juicyfish: you need to set the audio output engine and proper decoding libraries installed to get it working good
[05:05] <arrenlex> riotkittie: It's qt-based, yes. It's not tied to the KDE libraries so you should be able to install it without too many depencendies.
[05:05] <arrenlex> dependencies.
[05:05] <arrenlex> *lysdexic*
[05:05] <riotkittie> arrenlex: ah, cool.
[05:05] <lovloss> Im sorry to be such a bother... i cant find out how much processor speed my motherboard can handle for an upgrade. The sites arent helping.
[05:05] <Mikey> daftvader: but it still wouldnt harm trying to linuxify it :) as karl pilkinton says: you live and you learn
[05:05] <shorty114> lovloss, you mean overclocking or a new processor?
[05:05] <lovloss> shorty114  I want to get a  new processor :)
[05:06] <juicyfish> Meh. I found it somewhat bulky. That's why I began using VLC, but the playlist capabilities aren't that good.
[05:06] <syllogism> lovloss: how old is your computer?
[05:06] <daftvader> Mikey: if you have a lot of time on your hand, gentoo might fit that laptop
[05:06] <lovloss> shorty114: because mine is 1.5 ghz...
[05:06] <shorty114> lovloss, well, it's not so much speed as processor gen
[05:06] <JonTec__> k, syllogism: I got an ip, but no internet :D, I used... "iwconfig wlan0 mode ad-hoc" and changed essid to the name of the network I gave it in windows
[05:06] <daftvader> Mikey: or DSL
[05:06] <shorty114> lovloss, it may take a P4
[05:06] <lovloss> syllogism: Its fairly new.... in a strange way
[05:06] <Mikey> daftvader: ive tried DSL :D
[05:06] <lovloss> shorty114: no, its an AMD board
[05:06] <rioghal> juicyfish, Not sure if xmms supports the files you have, but I feel that xmms is quite nice.
[05:06] <shorty114> lovloss, oh, well, then i'm at a loss there :)
[05:06] <lovloss> shorty114: The compatible names are Sempron, Duron, Athlon
[05:07] <hoste> daftvader: suppose that I have 2 users user1 and user2 and I have a this tree of folders... /dell/hp/vaio  ok suppose that I need that user1 and user2  can be accses to dell but now the problem is that I need that user2 have no privileges to accses in vaio !
[05:07] <rioghal> juicyfish, Or even bmp (Beep Media Player)
[05:07] <shorty114> lovloss, any of those should be fine
[05:07] <hoste> daftvader: this is my confusion !
[05:07] <shorty114> lovloss, at any speed
[05:07] <lovloss> syllogism: The old Mobo broke and i took it in, got a cheap mobo for 70$... its out of the box
[05:07] <lovloss> shorty114: really?
[05:07] <Mikey> daftvader: but i pretty much love debian because of apt-get :D
[05:07] <syllogism> I think xmms has a gstreamer plugin, correct?  If that's the case you can play most files just fine
[05:07] <shorty114> lovloss, yeah, speed is only how fast the chip is clocked
[05:07] <mytankisfight> i just upgraded from ubuntu 6.06 to 6.10, since then my wireless connection has stopped working. can anyone help me out?
[05:07] <riotkittie> i think apt has ruined me. :(
[05:07] <oggy_> meh
[05:08] <blanky> hey guys, i clicked on the software updates thing and it's been frozen for a while now, no progress or anything
[05:08] <daftvader> hmm
[05:08] <lovloss> shorty114: I see... i just need to figure out whether or not to get another board in the process you see. im very very poor.
[05:08] <blanky> a while = 30 minutes
[05:08] <daftvader> hoste: let me think
[05:08] <hoste> daftvader: do you understan me or I can give you an other xls with 3 folders ..
[05:08] <Mikey> but anyways, have fun everyone, see you all tomorrow, have a nice night
[05:08] <varsendaggr> blanky, that is kinda normal
[05:08] <Tenric> night Mikey
[05:08] <hoste> daftvader: I will show you wait please !
[05:08] <blanky> varsendaggr: should I xkill it?
[05:08] <shorty114> lovloss, you should be fine
[05:08] <riotkittie> i installed zenwalk the other day, and oooh netpkg >cringe<. g-slapt is nice but the repos are ... thin.
[05:08] <Tenric> Party in #tenric!
[05:09] <riotkittie> woo. party. i'll bring the midgets. and the beer.
[05:09] <Tenric> hehe
[05:09] <varsendaggr> blanky, uhh yeat
[05:09] <toulouse> lol
[05:09] <rioghal> juicyfish, I have Synaptic open and searched for xmms. What kind of files are you looking to play?
[05:09] <varsendaggr> yeah
[05:09] <blanky> varsendaggr: you sure?
[05:09] <juicyfish> rioghal: M4A.
[05:09] <lovloss> shorty114: I mean, its not a *bad* board is it? it handles 3 gigs of memory, has 8 usb conenctors and boots from usb... i think its pretty decent huh?
[05:09] <varsendaggr> blanky, no
[05:09] <blanky> then, haha
[05:09] <shorty114> lovloss, heh, 3 GB of memory is nothing these days
[05:09] <blanky> I'll wiat a bit longer
[05:09] <shorty114> lovloss, but for 70 bucks i'd say it's good :)
[05:09] <lovloss> shorty114: I only have 1 ^_^ i didnt know anyone had more than 2
[05:10] <toulouse> i only have one gig of ram
[05:10] <toulouse> so that's nothing?
[05:10] <riotkittie> i only have 256mB
[05:10] <daftvader> hoste: i understand you
[05:10] <Aggort> Hey, can you guys help out? I am looking for some killer apps for Ubuntu or maybe not killer but the best ones I can have. Any suggestions to a website that lists them? For instance, I want the best IM and bittorrent  software around!
[05:10] <shorty114> lovloss, you can get 32 GB on some mobo's
[05:10] <juicyfish> The capacity of memory is moot compared to speed.
[05:10] <syllogism> lovloss: as long as it's got lots of usb connectors yeah, i'd hold on to that mobo. . .. . .that's how ya know it's a keeper ;-)
[05:10] <lovloss> shorty114: Just as long as i dont plug in a brand new shiny processor and find it underclocked to 1.6 ghz again
[05:10] <juicyfish> 1 GB of 800mhz > 2 GB of 667mhz
[05:10] <shorty114> juicyfish, yeah
[05:10] <lovloss> shorty114: holy cow
[05:10] <juicyfish> I have 1 GB of 667 and it runs fine.
[05:10] <toulouse> dang my mac down stairs has 256mb, and it's a mac mini, so it has a slow (laptop) hard drive, so virtual memory is out the crapper
[05:10] <mytankisfight> i just upgraded from ubuntu 6.06 to 6.10, since then my wireless connection has stopped working.  can someone please help me, i've wasted hours tring to solve this issue, I'd really appreciate it :)
[05:11] <lovloss> syllogism: :D yay
[05:11] <toulouse> it's slower than xmas
[05:11] <riotkittie> Aggort: "best" is a relative, meaningless term. the repos are full of cool things, just search, try and keep or remove as you see fit.
[05:11] <lovloss> thats true, processor > memory. especially since my main concern is rendering
[05:11] <rioghal> juicyfish, I don't see anything about m4a for xmms :(
[05:11] <robert____> syllogism:  i ran  lspci | grep Broadcom\ Corporation and it gave me "Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4311 (rev 01)"
[05:11] <juicyfish> :(
[05:11] <riotkittie> hahaha. that's like the best quit message evAr
[05:12] <nagromo> unless the 1 GB of 800MHz is DDR2 and the 2 GB of 667MHz is really fast DDR, with half the latency
[05:12] <lovloss> what good is a bunch of space if its moving slowly ^_^
[05:12] <syllogism> rioghal: look for m4a for gstreamer
[05:12] <Aggort> riotkittie: Well I figured that, but really I don;t know where to look. I know for GIMP there is GIMPShop, but I don't know necessarily where to get it and all. I was hoping for a website, like download.com
[05:12] <Tenric> I need to know what model my graphics card is, but lspci|grep VGA just returns 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 7149
[05:12] <haxality> is there any way to make panels completely disappear from the screen when they autohide in GNOME?
[05:12] <Tenric> any advice?
[05:12] <hoste> daftvader: patch.timesofcoffee.com/data/files/tree2.ods
[05:12] <Aggort> any ideas?
[05:12] <rioghal> syllogism, don't see anything for that either
[05:12] <riotkittie> hold on. let me see what i have m4as playing in. i only have one of them but had to find a plug-in
[05:12] <hoste> daftvader: there are 2 exmaples but I don'w know is the 1 and the 2 is possible to do !
[05:13] <lovloss> By the way, this is an odd question, but i started an open source sort of company thing... *blush*... anyway, im relatively new to this community compared to 9/10 of you, so maybe someone could give me pointers as to where to rack up some hits :)
[05:13] <lovloss> on the web page i mean
[05:13] <Tenric> I need to know what model my graphics card is, but lspci|grep VGA just returns 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 7149. Any advice?
[05:13] <oggy_> a good torrent client for ubuntu?
[05:13] <lovloss> i always leave out some vital information when i form a long question
[05:13] <toulouse> lovloss: sourceforge
[05:13] <juicyfish> I rip all of my music in 256kb/s M4A.
[05:13] <hoste> daftvader:  I had a mistake on exaple 1
[05:14] <juicyfish> I would really rather not re-rip or convert. :P
[05:14] <syllogism> lovloss: an oss  company eh?
[05:14] <lovloss> toulouse: dont you have to have a *source* first? ^_^
[05:14] <toulouse> oggy_: !azureus
[05:14] <toulouse> lovloss: oh i dont know
[05:14] <oggy_> thanks
[05:14] <hoste> daftvader: in the vaio just I wanto that user1 has accses
[05:14] <Tenric> lovloss: www.myspace.com/degreechanger
[05:14] <Tajmox> I have a PCI WiFi card that Ubuntu doesn't detect.  The device isn't Linux supported.  How do I go abouot fixing it?   Quetec WavePlus
[05:14] <lovloss> syllogism: ... sort of
[05:14] <riotkittie> gahhh. i hate it when i'm staring at a command line and not remembering what i wanted to do
[05:14] <riotkittie> ahhh. old age.
[05:14] <syllogism> juicyfish: you should switch to ogg vorbis hehe
[05:14] <Tenric> lovloss: he's an internet marketing expert.  Friend of mine.
[05:14] <Aggort> Hey, can you guys help out? I am looking for some killer apps for Ubuntu or maybe not killer but the best ones I can have. Any suggestions to a website that lists them? For instance, I want the best IM and bittorrent  software around
[05:14] <riotkittie> oh. m4a.
[05:14] <riotkittie> brb
[05:14] <Tenric> lovloss: let me know if that link doesn't work
[05:15] <lovloss> cool :) we're not really marketing though, just trying to get people to come see us
[05:15] <toulouse> tenric: it's a blank myspace
[05:15] <daftvader> hoste:
[05:15] <syllogism> riotkittie: at a time like that. . the best thing to do is motd
[05:15] <daftvader> you there?
[05:15] <lovloss> tenric: yes it is,blank ^_^
[05:15] <juicyfish> syllogism: I know. :( I record all of my own music in ogg, but hence I use VLC, so it isn't an issue anyway.
[05:15] <juicyfish> VLC plays all.
[05:15] <Aggort> isssss  KDE-Apps good??
[05:15] <blanky> lovloss: what?
[05:15] <Aggort> are there any other good sites like that?
[05:15] <Tenric> lovloss: hold ono
[05:15] <juicyfish> VLC could probably play jpegs.. if jpegs could be played.
[05:15] <Tenric> *on
[05:15] <mytankisfight> if no one here wants to help me out, can someone please suggest somewhere i can go, i've wasting so much time trying to get this thing working :(
[05:15] <hoste> daftvader: what happen !
[05:15] <lovloss> er, as longas im at it, http://www.vasilisagames.com
[05:15] <hoste> daftvader: yes !
[05:15] <syllogism> Aggort: Install them and find out
[05:15] <lovloss> lol blanky, i said "blank"
[05:16] <daftvader> each of your network users belong to a different group?
[05:16] <LameBMX> ahhh
[05:16] <blanky> oh, because I'm blank, I named myself blanky because blank was taken
[05:16] <daftvader> eg user1 belongs to group call user1
[05:16] <daftvader> and user2 belongs to group call user2?
[05:16] <lovloss> you could always be blanc
[05:16] <toulouse> i cant ever get any darn video playing under ubuntu, ive given up now--->nearly everything is on youtube, so i dont need video playing i guess
[05:16] <blanky> haha
[05:16] <daftvader> if you don't want user2 to access a subdirectory of a share folder
[05:16] <oggy_> hmm
[05:16] <Aggort> syllogism: that paste was an accident sorry. I meant,  aaaaaaaaa website liek KDE-Apps, are there any others?
[05:16] <hoste> daftvader: no
[05:16] <daftvader> try setting the permission
[05:16] <oggy_> I just installed azureus
[05:16] <oggy_> not working
[05:16] <hoste> daftvader: should be ?
[05:16] <Tenric> lovloss: www.myspace.com/degree_changer
[05:16] <rioghal> mytankisfight, I can only suggest either posting or searching at http://ubuntuforums.org
[05:17] <toulouse> !azureus
[05:17] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[05:17] <riotkittie> ok i found the player im using for m4a. brb again
[05:17] <toulouse> i dont know oggy_
[05:17] <juicyfish> riotkittie: What is it? :(
[05:17] <toulouse> must be configuration
[05:17] <daftvader> well if you do this chmod 700 directory
[05:17] <lovloss> *bookmarks*
[05:17] <toulouse> mine dont work, but im on wifi so i dont know
[05:17] <J0HN> !resolution | J0HN
[05:17] <daftvader> that mean only that user can acces that directory
[05:17] <ubotu> J0HN: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:17] <toulouse> it's different
[05:17] <mytankisfight> rioghal:thankyou
[05:17] <riotkittie> juicyfish: i'm using XMMS. i'm trying to figure out how i got it to do that. brb
[05:17] <Tajmox> My WIFI card isn't detected by Ubuntu.   How do I get it to work?   It's a Quetek Waveplus PCI.
[05:18] <Aggort> Are there any other sites like KDE-Apps?
[05:18] <juicyfish> Im using GTK 2
[05:18] <toulouse> !wifi
[05:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:18] <juicyfish> XMMS only works for GTK 1
[05:18] <Tajmox> thankns juicyfish
[05:18] <toulouse> Aggort: !wifi
[05:18] <juicyfish> ?
[05:18] <hoste> daftvader: I think that it's easy but for me is vary confuse lol I think that I'll need some help.. can I contact you tomorrow ?
[05:18] <juicyfish> Tajmox: For what? o.O
[05:18] <rioghal> juicyfish, If he can get m4a working, then I'd recommend xmms for you.. and there's a lot of skins for it. Also, there are a lot of goodies in synaptic for xmms
[05:18] <Tenric> lovloss: admitted, there's little information there, but I assure you, if you have a few bucks he'll get your marketing going.
[05:18] <lovloss> Tenric: thanks :) ill check it out
[05:18] <juicyfish> rioghal: I'll try it.
[05:19] <riotkittie> im a she. <shakes fist> :P
[05:19] <lovloss> gotta go guys
[05:19] <toulouse> lovloss: check sourceforge k
[05:19] <toulouse> oh well
[05:19] <rioghal> juicyfish,  http://www.xmms.org/   <-- some good skins there.
[05:19] <daftvader> sure
[05:19] <rioghal> rioghal, oh, sorry.. me too, I know how you feel 
[05:19] <hoste> daftvader: can you give me your email messenger or somering like thath ?
[05:19] <daftvader> il be on here
[05:20] <hoste> really ?
[05:21] <riotkittie> try ... sudo apt-get install xmms-mp4
[05:21] <Andymeows> So I was trying to install linux on my laptop as a dual boot with windows already installed, and I chose to shrink my partition and create 2 more smaller ones for linux, only the disc was scratched, and the installer crashed. I managed to reinstall linux, but my windows partition got hosed. Is there a way to recover some of the data off that partition?
[05:21] <blanky> Hey guys, how do I make a  in linux? In Windows it's ALT+164
[05:21] <hoste> daftvader: ok I will come back to this channel !
[05:21] <hoste> daftvader: thank's a lot !
[05:21] <hoste> :P
[05:21] <daftvader> hoste: no worries
[05:22] <riotkittie> juicyfish: try  sudo apt-get install xmms-mp4
[05:22] <riotkittie> to install the m4a ability
[05:22] <juicyfish> Im installing xmms now.
[05:22] <juicyfish> Crossing my fingers.
[05:22] <syllogism> Andymeows: why of course, and I'd recommend either "GetDataBack" or "RecoverMyFiles" to do it with
[05:22] <hoste> daftvader: yes velive me I have to finish this friday}
[05:22] <hoste> daftvader:  :(
[05:22] <blanky> !zsnes
[05:22] <ubotu> zsnes: Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.420-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 513 kB, installed size 3232 kB (Only available for i386)
[05:22] <Ash-Fox> Something, really weird is happening with Firefox -- I can't resolve any websites with it. I can resolve everything just fine with dig, host. Other browsers like Konqueror, links, lynx are able to resolve sites just fine. Firefox can open URLs that contain IP addresses. Anybody happen to have any ideas?
[05:23] <Naik0> Hey, is it easy to get a terminal on the desk? like this picture. http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/zoom.php?shots-dev/Megatron-lider-decepticon_fluxbox.jpg
[05:23] <hoste> daftvader: but now is late I frome mexico !
[05:23] <Naik0> iam using fluxbox
[05:23] <juicyfish> I mainly just want a non-bulky, smooth player with a good playlist function.
[05:23] <blanky> hoste: yo soy mexicano :D
[05:23] <nagromo> Hey, is there some sort of utility to show an on-screen keyboard where you click a special character (for French or Spanish) to insert it into the program?
[05:23] <juicyfish> VLC is good for all but playlists.
[05:23] <blanky> pero vivo en california
[05:23] <Andymeows> Thanks!
[05:23] <hoste> blanky: no mames wey pues deberias ayudarme con samba jajajaj !
[05:23] <riotkittie> dont forget to install xmms-mp4 on top of it.
[05:23] <math_> hello I'm trying to compile for the first time with this howto: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Quake3, but when I come to the 'make' point I get this message: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[05:23] <blanky> jaja, nunca lo e usado :(
[05:23] <juicyfish> I will.
[05:23] <math_> someone know what to do?
[05:23] <juicyfish> Riotkittie: thanks. <3
[05:23] <blanky> nagromo: right click on top panel
[05:23] <hoste> blanky: yo te conozco !
[05:23] <hoste> blanky: soy p47
[05:23] <blanky> nagromo: then add application
[05:23] <blanky> OOO!
[05:23] <riotkittie> juicyfish: my pleasure. hope it helps.
[05:23] <blanky> EY P47! HAHA
[05:23] <hoste> blanky: creo que si !
[05:24] <hoste> blanky: jajajajajaj !
[05:24] <pagefault> heh latest version of zsnes is 1.50
[05:24] <blanky> HAHA
[05:24] <riotkittie> ok. ive got to go cream my husband on the ps2. bbiab.
[05:24] <blanky> pagefault: yeah, so?
[05:24] <toulouse> nagromo: it's in applications>character map
[05:24] <blanky> !zsnes | pagefault
[05:24] <ubotu> zsnes: Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.420-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 513 kB, installed size 3232 kB (Only available for i386)
[05:24] <hoste> blanky: no mames hando pidiendo soporte para samba server ya sabes man
[05:24] <blanky> como te va mano jaja :P
[05:24] <blanky> hoste: y no hay canal para samba?
[05:24] <blanky> #samba?
[05:24] <nagromo> thanks
[05:24] <blanky> si lo hay!
[05:24] <hoste> blanky:  si wey pero son bien mammones!
[05:24] <blanky> metete alli y yo te alludo
[05:24] <syllogism> math_: make looks for a file called Makefile by default, and from that message - it looks like you aren't in the right directory when you executed 'make'
[05:24] <juano_> math_: maybe you have to run ./configure first before make
[05:24] <pagefault> yes I saw it the first time
[05:25] <hoste> blanky:  met tengo que ir, luego nos vemos en el messenger !
[05:25] <pagefault> hopefully 1.50 is pushed in edgy
[05:25] <nagromo> toulouse: thanks
[05:25] <blanky> jaja okay bye hoste
[05:25] <math_> ah, syllogism, juano_  well I just followed the how-to
[05:25] <toulouse> nagromo: hey man, ive had to get help before too :) that's what we are here for
[05:26] <juano_> math_: try finding a configure script
[05:26] <juano_> math_: and run ./configure
[05:26] <juano_> math_: then run make
[05:26] <math_> juano_, ok
[05:26] <variant> lo all
[05:27] <syllogism> variant: howdy
[05:27] <math_> juano_, what filetypes I have to search at?
[05:28] <math_> Makefile must be the one?
[05:28] <juano_> math_: usually when you compile from source before you do make, you need to run ./configure, there may be a file called "configure"
[05:29] <math_> ./configure
[05:29] <math_> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[05:29] <juano_> math_: not makefile
[05:29] <variant> math_: are you in the right directory?
[05:29] <math_> sh configure?
[05:29] <variant> math_: your command shell has to be in the directory containing the configure script
[05:29] <rioghal> rioghal, was it you who was talking about the book, "Linux in a nutshell"?
[05:30] <juano_> math_: if configure is in that directory yes, try ./configure or sh configure
[05:30] <rioghal> riotkittie, was it you who was talking about the book, "Linux in a nutshell"?
[05:30] <rioghal> hehe
[05:30] <riotkittie> rioghal: yep
[05:30] <rioghal> riotkittie, http://www.onlamp.com/linux/cmd/
[05:30] <mikebroberts> I'm still having a problem setting up wireless networking - can anyone help me out please?
[05:30] <variant> i saw that book, seemed like a nice reference
[05:30] <riotkittie> brb
[05:31] <math_> there's also one problem
[05:31] <math_> First of all ensure you've got following packages installed:
[05:31] <math_> gcc
[05:31] <math_> automake
[05:31] <math_> glibc-headers
[05:31] <math_> subversion
[05:31] <math_> glibc-headers is not in my sources.list
[05:31] <variant> math_: yes, apt-get install build-essential svn
[05:31] <math_> ooh
[05:31] <riotkittie> rioghal: ahhh. nice. thanks for the link
[05:31] <rioghal> rioghal, yw 
[05:32] <math_> variant, cant find svn package
[05:32] <atarinox> hi, can somebody tell me the command to see a list of running processes?
[05:32] <math_> variant, what repository for this?
[05:32] <variant> atarinox: top
[05:32] <variant> atarinox: or ps
[05:32] <atarinox> and is there a gui app i can d/l that will give function similar to windows task manager
[05:32] <variant> atarinox: yes, gnome task manager.. its already installed
[05:33] <math_> variant, ...what?
[05:33] <variant> math_: sorry
[05:33] <math_> :)
[05:33] <puff> Anybody got an ipod? I'm seeing some wacky behavior with gtkpod and I'm trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong.
[05:33] <math_> top or ps
[05:33] <toulouse> ipodlinux ftw
[05:33] <mikebroberts> I've tried installing gnome network manager, but it doesn't list any networks, but my wireless card is detected and enabled in the 'network settings' gui
[05:33] <riotkittie> puff:  i dont have an ipod but if you mail me yours, i'll look into your issue. heh heh.
[05:33] <variant> !svn
[05:33] <ubotu> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[05:34] <puff> riotkittie: Gee, thanks :-).
[05:34] <variant> wtf
[05:34] <riotkittie> compelling replacement. heh.
[05:34] <Syntax_Error> lo
[05:34] <riotkittie> i dont know why, but that amuses me muchly.
[05:34] <puff> From what I've seen, svn looks like it's turned the corner.
[05:35] <nagromo> Hey, I'm getting really slow wireless with the rt2500 driver on Ubuntu 6.06
[05:35] <math_> variant, ok thnx... but where the hell can I find those repositories?
[05:35] <variant> math_: I don;t know what the package is called.. it shouldbe in default repos
[05:35] <math_> hmm ok?
[05:35] <Andymeows> is there a way to download podcasts to your ipod in linux?
[05:35] <math_> well, it says cant find package
[05:36] <toulouse> wine + itunes?
[05:36] <atarinox> ok well swiftfox is frozen and not showing up in top or ps....how do i kill it?
[05:36] <cyphase> Andymeows: take a look at gtkpod
[05:36] <dogmeat> i modified menu.lst, then did update-grub, but didn't see any changes during boot up options
[05:36] <Andymeows> Thanks
[05:36] <Syntax_Error> i have troubles making beryl to work under edgy, i have an ati card, which need to have the extension "compisite" disable in order to have 3d acceleration, and beryl don't like that. Can i do something?
[05:36] <cyphase> Andymeows: i haven't used it, but i heard ir can do that
[05:36] <math_> toulouse, listen is a nice alternative :)
[05:36] <cyphase> it*
[05:36] <toulouse> listen?
[05:36] <math_> yes
[05:36] <toulouse> is taht a program
[05:36] <math_> thats something like itunes
[05:36] <math_> or amarok
[05:36] <toulouse> o
[05:36] <toulouse> thanks
[05:36] <math_> but very basic
[05:36] <math_> I use it
[05:37] <toulouse> does it connect to itms?
[05:37] <math_> toulouse, u using gnome or kde?
[05:37] <juano_> Syntax_Error: they will know probably in #beryl
[05:37] <toulouse> both
[05:37] <toulouse> gnome mainly
[05:37] <math_> ah, maybe amorok better to use
[05:37] <math_> oh
[05:37] <math_> amorok is kde, listen is gnome
[05:37] <math_> but I dont know about itms?
[05:37] <toulouse> k
[05:38] <toulouse> the itunes music store
[05:38] <math_> ooh
[05:38] <variant> math_: amarok is very nice
[05:38] <math_> yes it is
[05:38] <math_> but I uses gnome
[05:38] <variant> math_: so do i
[05:38] <Syntax_Error> juano_> thanks
[05:39] <bradley_> update manager installed an update (kernel, restricted drivers and xserver -- some thing in that ball park). upon restarting my computer xorg crashed. i have it running now but i had to remove nvidia from xorg.
[05:39] <bradley_> any ideas how to get this thing back to normal? what did i do?
[05:39] <riotkittie> eww. 11.2 gigs. *weep*
[05:39] <farkr> does ubuntu have a 'wheel' group or somethin that i can add a normal user to so they wont have to 'sudo' everything?
[05:40] <math_> toulouse, http://radio.hbr1.com:19720 :)
[05:40] <math_> variant, u use amarok in gnome?
[05:40] <toulouse> ok? that's one of the streams right
[05:40] <rioghal> farkr, No, but you can add a wheel group and then add users to that group
[05:40] <toulouse> i use streamtuner and xmmms all the time
[05:40] <Tonren> Hey guys, I'm trying to enable postfix as a send-only mail server.  I'm doing web development on a laptop connected to the web through a commercial router & cable modem.  Who can help me out?
[05:40] <math_> toulouse, just some radio stream
[05:40] <toulouse> for int. radio
[05:40] <toulouse> math_: try out streamtuner, it's awesome
[05:41] <math_> yes?
[05:41] <math_> toulouse, ...:O I see... a lot of radio streamings
[05:42] <toulouse> math_: http://www.nongnu.org/streamtuner/
[05:42] <math_> toulouse, better to have it all in one :)
[05:42] <toulouse> yep :)
[05:42] <toulouse> then xmms is almost seamless
[05:42] <math_> man, I use xmms, listen, mplayer... all those programs... :P
[05:43] <mikebroberts> hi all - I solved my wireless problem - I had to hack my interfaces file - http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu-linux.html
[05:43] <juano_> math_: xmms and mplayer and kaffeine do it all
[05:43] <math_> :)
[05:43] <J0HN> can anybody please help me with some resolution issues?
[05:44] <math_> were I can download a wineX installer...? :/
[05:44] <toulouse> i can never ever get any program on my computer to play movies tho! it's annoying
[05:44] <rioghal> J0HN, What is the problem?
[05:44] <juano_> J0HN: what seems to be the problem?
[05:44] <math_> toulouse, u cant?
[05:44] <J0HN> i want to properly identify my graphics card and monitor
[05:44] <toulouse> nope
[05:44] <math_> sudo apt-get install multimedia-gnome or something?
[05:44] <toulouse> mplayer is installed , so is kaffeine, so is totem
[05:44] <juano_> J0HN: install drivers you mean?
[05:45] <J0HN> when i run the terminal command that's suggested in the documentation, it detects it while i'm in the live cd, but not in the installed version
[05:45] <toulouse> math_, ive got homework, it's another issue for another day
[05:45] <math_> toulouse, but what's the problem?
[05:45] <math_> ok :)
[05:45] <toulouse> i dont really no
[05:45] <math_> toulouse, were u from?
[05:45] <J0HN> but with both versions, it never allows me to go to my monitor's native res, 1440x990@60hz
[05:45] <toulouse> but, it just starts then says it wojnt play
[05:45] <J0HN> yah, drivers i guess
[05:46] <toulouse> im from houston,texas
[05:46] <math_> ooh ok
[05:46] <toulouse> but--i dont like bush, dont worry
[05:46] <math_> <- netherlands
[05:46] <Tenric> Austin, TX here
[05:46] <toulouse> whoa cool
[05:46] <math_> lol toulouse
[05:46] <math_> but you like bill gates!
[05:46] <math_> I know for real
[05:46] <math_> :P
[05:46] <toulouse> us texas rednecks
[05:46] <toulouse> lol
[05:46] <juano_> J0HN: you can edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and try manually configuring resolution
[05:46] <toulouse> i dont like bush, i come in peace
[05:46] <math_> ;)
[05:46] <J0HN> i've looked at that file before
[05:46] <toulouse> well, i got to get onto my physics :|
[05:47] <Tenric> I did like Bush until a few weeks ago when I finally saw the light.
[05:47] <math_> good luck with homework
[05:47] <Tenric> I'm Libertarian now.
[05:47] <J0HN> i'm just not really able to do much
[05:47] <J0HN> and when i look at this:
[05:48] <J0HN> !resolution | J0HN
[05:48] <ubotu> J0HN: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:48] <J0HN> when i look at that ^^^^^^, i notice the documentation is out of date (sort of)
[05:48] <Math^> variant, it was subversion, not svn :P
[05:48] <lovloss> me again...  an AM2 slot is different from an A slot isnt it? :(
[05:48] <J0HN> it's for ubuntu drapper drake, and i have east est or whatever it is
[05:49] <tonsofpcs> how can I get java working on ff ? is it in apt somewhere?
[05:49] <jrib> !java | tonsofpcs
[05:49] <ubotu> tonsofpcs: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:49] <jrib> tonsofpcs: sun-java-plugin  for firefox
[05:49] <jrib> tonsofpcs: sun-java5-plugin  for firefox
[05:49] <tonsofpcs> thanks
[05:50] <juano_> J0HN: by editing your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, you can go to display section and add your resolution, that probably can able you to change it
[05:50] <juano_> J0HN: section "screen" to be exact
[05:51] <itanshi> is there some procedure i need to go through as a newly installed edgy eft era nub?
[05:51] <Xecho> An upgrade requires I enter my Xubuntu CD. I put it in and it mounts to cdrecorder, but the app asks for it in cdrom and won't see it. How can I fix this?
[05:51] <itanshi> i had a bunc of instalations fail on me and wireless is unchanged despite getting i believe the right ndiswrapper
[05:52] <J0HN> i see what you mean
[05:52] <Tonren> Hey guys, I'm trying to enable postfix as a send-only mail server.  I'm doing web development on a laptop connected to the web through a commercial router & cable modem.  Who can help me out?
[05:52] <cstrippie> itanshi - are you by chance trying to use a broadcom wifi chip?
[05:52] <J0HN> and then after i hit CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE, i can go to system>prefrences>screen resolution and choose it?
[05:52] <itanshi> yep
[05:52] <cstrippie> My last laptop was so equipped - I was never able to get ndiswrapper to work
[05:53] <itanshi> mm
[05:53] <cstrippie> You're using edgy, right?
[05:53] <itanshi> yes, i'll ask again tomorrow, tis late, thanks tho
[05:53] <juano_> J0HN: its worth a try yea, though you probably would have to restart X for changes, in case you cant restart X, just re-edit xorg.conf and leave it as it was
[05:53] <marltu> how to get packages for kompiling?
[05:53] <marltu> apt-get?
[05:53] <J0HN> this has happened to me MANY times: i change the res, and it doesn't recognize it! at least in windows, it would revert back to default after 10 sec if you don't say it worked...
[05:53] <marltu> *compiling
[05:53] <Xecho> An upgrade requires I enter my Xubuntu CD. I put it in and it mounts to cdrecorder, but the app asks for it in cdrom and won't see it. How can I fix this?
[05:54] <nagromo> Hey, I've got a probelm with Firefox's speed: I can download/use apt with high speeds, but when I go to gmail.com or google.com in firefox, I usually get a timeout; once in a while it works. I can ping sites with 0 packet loss and <100ms latency, though.
[05:54] <J0HN> how do i restart X?
[05:54] <nagromo> JOHN: CTRL+ALT+Backspace
[05:54] <Andymeows> ctrl-alt-backspace
[05:54] <J0HN> ooh, yah, i know about that key command. didn't know that's what it was doing, lol.
[05:54] <juano_> J0HN: ctrl + alt + F1 /  login as root / init 3 , then init 5
[05:54] <marltu> how to get packages for compiling?
[05:55] <rioghal> juano_, he shouldn't be able to log in as root as that is not supported and insecure.
[05:55] <J0HN> (is "X" the equivalent to "Explorer" in Windows [or "Finder" in mac] ?)
[05:55] <jinx099> nagromo: Try disabling IPv6
[05:55] <Slingky> hi guys
[05:55] <juano_> rioghal: mm you could be right,
[05:55] <khoa> JOHN, no
[05:55] <J0HN> also, i'm running from the live cd, as my installed ubuntu is configured to a screen res that doesn't work correctly
[05:55] <Slingky> does somebody may help me with CAPS LOCK ?
[05:56] <Slingky> it works like SHIFT LOCK and it's not what i want...
[05:56] <spasti> hi .ubuntu people !!!
[05:56] <rioghal> hi spasti
[05:56] <atoponce> i have a business card created in .svg, and i need to get it into OpenOffic.org. is this possible?
[05:56] <J0HN> well, i'm restarting X, if i don't respond it means i have to reboot from the live cd, redownload xchat... and will be back in a few min...
[05:56] <atoponce> i want to print them myself
[05:57] <J0HN> brb as i do this... wish me luck, lol
[05:57] <atoponce> i want to print both a front and back image, and keep the text as clear as possible
[05:58] <atoponce> so, maybe OOo isn't the way to go for this. but i would like to get about 10 on a page, all aligned
[05:58] <J0HN> hey, i'm back
[05:58] <J0HN> i restarted X
[05:58] <J0HN> and my resolution is still the same
[05:58] <juano_> J0HN: any luck?
[05:58] <J0HN> nope
[05:58] <elyon225> Taladan: Still around?
[05:58] <jack_> yo.. i have xubuntu installed on my laptop right now (pentium 3 256 mb ram) am i ok to install ubuntu on their or do you guys think I should stick with xubuntu
[05:59] <spasti> ubuntu people are all good people .have nice heart.
[05:59] <Taladan> vaguely...going to bed soon though
[05:59] <J0HN> in system>prefrences>screen resolution, it only lets me select 800x600 still
[05:59] <jack_> ???
[05:59] <elyon225> jack_: The only difference is that Xubuntu uses Xfce and Ubuntu uses Gnome...
[05:59] <elyon225> jack_: You can install gnome on there, I believe.
[05:59] <juano_> J0HN: which video card you got
[05:59] <jack_> really?
[05:59] <jack_> hmm
[06:00] <elyon225> Taladan: Just wanted to let you know that Crtl-Alt-F1 did nothing when my system crashed after logging off.
[06:00] <J0HN> ati, onboard graphics on my amd motherboard
[06:00] <Taladan> jack_: to 'install' ubuntu on there type: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:00] <J0HN> ati 200 something...
[06:00] <Taladan> elyon225: did you try F2 instead?
[06:00] <Xecho> My ATI card worked after using the Alternate installer and disabling the frame buffer.
[06:00] <elyon225> jack_: Then when you're logging in, just choose the session you want.
[06:01] <elyon225> Taladan: Yes, I tried F1, F2, Crtl-Alt and Crtl-Alt-Shift combos... nothing.
[06:01] <J0HN> on the live cd (for some reason, not when in the installed ubuntu), it recognizes the vid card name and stuff, same with the monitor
[06:01] <juano_> J0HN: on windows you can do 1024x768?
[06:01] <Xecho> An upgrade requires I enter my Xubuntu CD. I put it in and it mounts to .../cdrecorder, but the app asks for it in .../cdrom and won't see it. How can I fix this?
[06:01] <J0HN> i can do 1440x900, which this monitor was specifically designed for
[06:01] <J0HN> i can do 1024x768 too though
[06:02] <Taladan> elyon225: did you check /var/log/messages?
[06:02] <elyon225> Taladan: Nothing that I would think is an error message.
[06:02] <juano_> J0HN: yea.. when you boot with live cd you can do that reS?>
[06:02] <J0HN> i'm in the live cd right now
[06:02] <Taladan> elyon225: did you check ~/.xsession_errors
[06:02] <J0HN> and no luck
[06:02] <Taladan> ?
[06:02] <juano_> J0HN: you probably need the proper ATI driver
[06:03] <spasti> from livecd CAN I install ubuntu?
[06:03] <juano_> !ati
[06:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:03] <J0HN> (mainly cuz when i do the terminal command that gives me prompts about my setup, and when i choose to define my resolution, and i choose 1440x900, the only hz it offers is 100! i think 60 would work, but 100 for some reason doesn't and 60 isn't offered...
[06:03] <juano_> J0HN: you tried that?
[06:03] <magnet0> Hi
[06:03] <mena> Friends I had Already the Clam Anti virus Unstalled And I Cant Find It in the menu
[06:03] <Xecho> spasti - Yes.
[06:03] <magnet0> is there an easy way with the latest ubuntu version to add my windows partition to the grub list
[06:04] <mena> sorry installed
[06:04] <J0HN> i'm trying that right now
[06:04] <spasti> Xecho;that's great !
[06:04] <elyon225> Taladan: I don't see that file.
[06:04] <rioghal> mena, I believe clamav is a cli app
[06:04] <Taladan> er
[06:04] <Taladan> ~/.xsession-errors
[06:05] <Taladan> my bad
[06:05] <elyon225> ~ is home, right?
[06:05] <Taladan> Yeah
[06:05] <rioghal> yes
[06:05] <mena> rioghal, ok
[06:05] <Math^> Were do I download wineX, or do I have to buy Cedega for playing win-games?
[06:05] <Taladan> and any file that begins with a '.' is a hidden file.
[06:05] <Taladan> to see hidden files type 'ls -a'
[06:05] <Math^> Were can I download wineX, or do I have to buy Cedega for playing win-games?
[06:05] <Slingky> Does somebody may help me with xkboptions ???
[06:06] <elyon225> Taladan: Okay, that lists a few font errors and a gtk warning... that's it.
[06:06] <J0HN> what's the address to xorg.conf again?
[06:06] <Taladan> elyon225: what's the gtk error?
[06:06] <J0HN> it's /etc something...
[06:06] <rioghal>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[06:06] <juano_> J0HN: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:06] <J0HN> thanks
[06:07] <bulmer> find / -name xorg.conf
[06:07] <elyon225> Taladan: Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_widget_size_allocate(): attempt to allocate widget with width -3 and height 24
[06:08] <Taladan> that doesn't sound like it'd cause a freeze.
[06:08] <J0HN> that file has the full name of my graphics card, "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon Xpress 200 (RS482)" - just so i know when doing these ati drivers...
[06:09] <elyon225> Taladan: Just that and a bunch of fontconfig errors... a couple other lines, but they don't seem like error messages.
[06:09] <Taladan> I don't know what to tell you man.  You might try and see if there's an update for your window manager/display manager...Other than that it's gonna take someone with deeper bug tracking skills than I have at the moment.
[06:09] <Tonren> Guys, my wife left me, I crashed my car, my cat died, my laptop is almost out of batteries and I have a headache.
[06:09] <elyon225> Taladan: Alright.  Thanks for your help, though.
[06:09] <rioghal> Tonren, You're now qualified to write a country song
[06:09] <elyon225> Tonren: That poor lappy...
[06:09] <jb0nd38372> lmao
[06:10] <Taladan> sorry I couldn't help more
[06:10] <Tonren> Ok.. I just needed SOMEONE to respond to me for once.  XD
[06:10] <Taladan> may just be looking in the wrong place for it
[06:10] <elyon225> Taladan: I still appreciate it.  Just a very annoying problem...
[06:10] <elyon225> I can't exactly keep linux if it does this so often.
[06:10] <Tonren> elyon225: What's the story, dude?
[06:11] <elyon225> Tonren: I'd say that every other time a user logs out, the system freezes.  White screen, frozen mouse, keyboard doesn't work... I have to reboot.
[06:11] <elyon225> Its done it 5 or 6 times now tonight.
[06:11] <milo> hello
[06:11] <Tonren> elyon225: This is a multi-user machine?  Laptop or desktop?
[06:12] <Tonren> elyon225: How much would you say you know about this kind of thing?
[06:12] <Taladan> elyon225: Try the update, that might be a quick fix to your problem.
[06:12] <elyon225> Tonren: Yes, three users (family) and its on a desktop.
[06:12] <elyon225> Taladan: I have no idea how to do that.
[06:12] <elyon225> Tonren: I've had Linux for 3 weeks...
[06:12] <elyon225> Tonren: Reinstalled it twice...
[06:12] <meklort> hi
[06:12] <Tonren> elyon225: Don't worry 'bout it.  I was just askin.  Which version are you on?  6.06? 6.10?  Did this used to be a Windows computer?
[06:13] <elyon225> Tonren: I have edgy (6.10).  And yes, I still have windows installed...
[06:13] <elyon225> (haven't used it since switching, though)
[06:13] <mena> where to repot a bug
[06:13] <mena> report
[06:14] <mena> ! bug
[06:14] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[06:14] <meklort> Any one have experience with multi-seated x11 installs?
[06:14] <Tonren> elyon225: Okey doke.  This sounds kind of like an Xorg problem.  Xorg is the program that's the core of all the graphics on your computer.
[06:14] <Tonren> elyon225: Do you know how to pastebin stuff?
[06:15] <elyon225> Tonren: Yes.
[06:15] <elyon225> Tonren: I need the link for the ubuntu one again, though.
[06:15] <Tonren> elyon225: Just type /topic into your IRC chat.  It's in the channel's topic.
[06:15] <Tonren> elyon225: Do me a flava fave, and pastebin the contents of dmesg.
[06:15] <elyon225> ok
[06:15] <elyon225> Tonren: Remind me how to output that to a file?
[06:15] <J0HN> ati driver downloading...
[06:15] <Xecho> An upgrade requires I enter my Xubuntu CD. I put it in and it mounts to .../cdrecorder, but the app asks for it in .../cdrom and won't see it. How can I fix this?
[06:16] <bobby> heyyy
[06:16] <Tonren> elyon225: Sure.  Do you know how to open a terminal?
[06:16] <elyon225> Tonren: Yep.
[06:16] <J0HN> off topic of my issue, i have a question. why does it seem that installing/configuring linux (compared to Windows) seems so damn difficult.
[06:16] <elyon225> Tonren: Just don't remember the syntax for it.
[06:17] <gdb> Xecho: sudo umount cdrecorder
[06:17] <elyon225> J0HN: Because its not as easy as Windows ;)
[06:17] <gdb> Xecho: sudo mount /media/cdrom
[06:17] <Tonren> elyon225: Ok.  When you type "dmesg" into the command line, it outputs everything right in front of you - it's outputting to something called "STDOUT".  There are special ways of redirecting STDOUT.
[06:17] <J0HN> for example, requiring me to go into the terminal and type "make" while at the folder of what i wanna install
[06:17] <Xecho> Thanks!!!
[06:17] <gdb> er that other is /media/cdrecorder
[06:17] <J0HN> then i get errors that follow
[06:17] <gdb> Xecho: that *might* work
[06:17] <Xecho> Ok.
[06:17] <Xecho> I'll try it.
[06:17] <default> Hello
[06:17] <Taladan> Xecho: If you're using a GUI, go into adept and go Actions->Manage Repos, and right click CD repo and disable it.
[06:17] <jadi> and also if you use package managers, it might be easier
[06:17] <Tonren> elyon225: One of then is >, which redirects STDOUT to a file.  So, if you are in your home directory and you type dmesg > dmesg.log, it'll create a file called "dmesg.log" and fill it with the output.
[06:17] <Taladan> that'll permanently disable it from asking for the CD ;)
[06:17] <elyon225> J0HN: Because Linux allows you to totally customize HOW the program works, is installed, and is compiled... windows doesn't.
[06:18] <elyon225> Tonren: ah...
[06:18] <J0HN> i don't mind opening up random binary files as long as they pass my virus scan first. granted it could still be a virus, but i back everything up and consider myself pretty damn good in windows.
[06:18] <Tonren> elyon225: Did that make no sense?
[06:18] <nagromo> jinx099: Wow. Disabling ipv6 in firefox's about:config at least quadrupled my performance, and I'm not getting timeouts now. Thanks a ton.
[06:18] <rioghal> J0HN, It's difficult to create a single one-click install package when the various Linux distros use either .rpm or .deb or.tgz or other types of packages. This is where the repos come in quite handy.
[06:18] <J0HN> elyon225: i understand that, but what about the newbs that would rather just have a working app?
[06:18] <jadi> Is the date/month of the next major release known ? I want to immigrate from FC to Ubuntu but I think it is better to wait and do it at the next release. when is it ?
[06:18] <elyon225> Tonren: Nope... it made perfect sense (I have a LOT of PC experience dating back to pre-windows... so command line is nothing new to me... just gotta learn the new commands and syntax for linux)
[06:19] <elyon225> J0HN: That's what #ubuntu is for ;)
[06:19] <J0HN> rioghal: that makes sense
[06:19] <Tonren> elyon225: Great.
[06:19] <J0HN> elyon225: hehe, good point
[06:19] <jinx099> nagromo: I've been hearing a lot of reports with the same results.  I dont know what the issue is, IPv6 being enabled causes no problems for me
[06:19] <elyon225> Tonren: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1014/
[06:19] <J0HN> k, ati drivers finished downloading a min ago. brb
[06:20] <puff> What's the best ipod-management app for ubuntu?
[06:20] <Tenri1> I downloaded and installed the correct driver for my graphics card, but the card still isn't working, and the system doesn't recognize it.
[06:20] <J0HN> GRR!! i tried running the file, i get the message: "Could not open the file /home/ubuntu/Desktop/atiler-8.32.5-x86.x86_64.run"
[06:20] <Tonren> J0HN: For a lot of people, Ubuntu Linux installs without a hitch.  The people you see in here are either A) the unlucky ones or B) the experienced ones who want to help Category A.  ;P
[06:20] <Tonren> J0HN: What are you trying to do?
[06:20] <default> Using Synaptic I wanted to install the recent update for libc6 and libc6-dev. But something went wrong. I got a dependencies error
[06:20] <Taladan> elyon225: if you're into reading much, check out 'Linux in a Nutshell'.  That's the bash man pages (pretty much) in an indexed and readable format.
[06:20] <yuesefa> there's a dependency error while install mono
[06:21] <yuesefa> apache-mono
[06:21] <default> and a bit more like that, e.g. Error: BrokenCount > 0. Now, the error seems to connected to the libc6-dev.
[06:21] <default> To clean up the dependency-errors I would like to remove the libc6-dev but then I get a list of further *-dev packages that need to be removed including g++.
[06:21] <juano_> J0HN: did you try with ./ before the file
[06:21] <J0HN> i'm trying to open the ati driver installer i just downloaded
[06:21] <blanky> default: do you have sudo apt-get install build-essential?
[06:21] <J0HN> eh? i just hit the "Open" button from the Downloads window in Firefox...
[06:21] <juano_> ./atiler-8.32.5-x86.x86_64.run J0HN
[06:21] <elyon225> Taladan: I've got a LOT of intro linux sites bookmarked
[06:21] <J0HN> that's an abbreviation of the name anyway...
[06:21] <Tenri1> I downloaded and installed the correct driver for my graphics card, but the card still isn't working, and the system doesn't recognize it.
[06:21] <default> Question: can I remove the libc6-dev and further *-dev files without damaging my system?
[06:22] <default> blanky: yes, its installed
[06:22] <elyon225> Taladan: Just waiting for the time and patience to get into them.  Plus, I'd like to have Linux fully up and configured and SECURE before I get to into it.
[06:22] <Tonren> elyon225: Any luck with the dmesg posting?  I actually have to be someplace soon, but I'd like to try to help you out before I go if I can.
[06:22] <juano_> J0HN: enter a terminal, go to the file dir, type sudo ./filename
[06:22] <blanky> if you don't mind me asking, what's the package that you're trying to install?
[06:22] <elyon225> Tonren: I thought I already sent the link  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1014/
[06:22] <jadi> Is the date/month of the next major release known ? I want to immigrate from FC to Ubuntu but I think it is better to wait and do it at the next release. when is it ?
[06:22] <Tonren> elyon225: I must've missed it somehow.
[06:22] <Taladan> elyon225: The intro sites are good, but they only go so far.  As far as security, it's fairly well secure out of the box, as long as you're using rational username and password schema.
[06:23] <elyon225> Taladan: Secure was the wrong word... I meant stable ;)
[06:23] <default> blanky: i think my problem is already described at the following link but its too complex and dangerous for me to solve it that way so I'd prefer to remove the libc6-dev:http://shearer.org/Debugging_Dpkg_Problems
[06:23] <Taladan> heh
[06:23] <Taladan> well, sometimes that can be a chore, yeah.  But you learn a bunch and once it's stable, it's rock solid.
[06:23] <J0HN> i think i found the ati drivers in Synaptec
[06:23] <J0HN> Synaptic^
[06:23] <blanky> default: libc6-dev is used a lot
[06:23] <J0HN> i'm gonna give it a try... brb
[06:23] <juano_> J0HN: well then download that
[06:24] <Tenri1> I downloaded and installed the correct driver for my graphics card, but the card still isn't working, and the system doesn't recognize it.
[06:24] <default> blanky: right, but is it needed for RUNNING the system or only for compiling code? I mean, can I restart my system and so on WITHOUT the libc6-dev or is it actively needed?
[06:24] <juano_> Tenri1: wich card nvidia?
[06:25] <blanky> default: i doubt you actively need it
[06:25] <Tenri1> juano: ATI
[06:25] <blanky> default: and you tried the site you mentioned?
[06:25] <Tenri1> raidon mobile x1300
[06:25] <juano_> !ati | Tenri1
[06:25] <ubotu> Tenri1: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:25] <Tenri1> *raedon
[06:25] <Tenri1> ok, thanks
[06:26] <Tonren> elyon225: Did this crash occur at all today or yesterday?
[06:26] <rioghal> s/raedon/radeon/
[06:26] <elyon225> Tonren: Both... the most recent was about 45 minutes ago
[06:26] <default> blanky: thats what i needed to know before removing it thus removing the dependency error
[06:26] <farkr> in fdisk when i type 'l' to list partition types how come it shows 2 entries for NTFS? 86) NTFS volume set and 87) NTFS volume set. which do i use?
[06:26] <elyon225> Tonren: It happens a LOT... almost every time a user logs out.
[06:27] <blanky> default: im really sorry but I'm really busy right now, I have lots of homework :'( but I have a feeling your problem is fixable, I believe there's some type of force or flush command, I forget what it is though
[06:27] <Tonren> elyon225: OK.  If it's happened today, paste the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log.  (I couldn't find anything in dmesg)
[06:27] <blanky> default: sorry :(
[06:27] <Tonren> elyon225: I probably won't figure it out BTW.  I'm no developer or anything.  I just kinda know my way around.  Sorry if I got your hopes way up.  :\
[06:27] <default> blanky: no problem, thanks for your help!
[06:28] <Taladan> Tonren: better have him tail it and paste that instead of pasting the whole thing
[06:28] <blanky> default: no problem, sorry I couldn't really help :( maybe if you still have the problem tomorrow, I can help out
[06:28] <elyon225> Tonren: If you can't help, its quite alright.  I appreciate the attempt.  Here's the Xorg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1015/
[06:28] <Tonren> Taladan: Good call, but too late ;P
[06:28] <Xecho> Taladan - How do I disable the need for the CD again? I'm using Xfce
[06:29] <juano_> long live Konversation
[06:29] <jinx099> juano_: You misspelled "gaim"
[06:30] <Pie-rate> How would I start another X in another TTY for running fullscreen games?
[06:30] <farkr> i dont see the point of gui irc personally
[06:30] <Taladan> Xecho: if you can run adept in there, go to Adept->Manage repositories then R.Click the CD repo and choose 'Disable'.  Then apply, then okay.
[06:30] <default> Question: I need to remove approx. 15 *-dev packages, g++, build-essentials and libc6-dev to resolve a dependency error. Do I need any of the files mentioned to run my system (booting, X-window) or are they only used for compiling matters???
[06:30] <Xecho> Is there a command for opening Adept?
[06:30] <Taladan> there's a command line command for it, or you can just comment it out of /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:30] <Taladan> Yeah - adept
[06:30] <Xecho> lol ok
[06:30] <Xecho> I'll try it one sec...
[06:31] <Tenri1> how do I uninstall my graphics card driver?
[06:31] <rioghal> Tonren, Xchat, Settings -> Advanced -> URL Handlers.. add this as a command: !firefox -remote 'openURL(%s)'   That's what I have and firefox opens links from xchat when I right-click and choose "Open link in browser"
[06:31] <Tonren> elyon225: Crap.  I have to get going.  But I do notice two distinct types of errors in your Xorg log.  Look at lines 1022 - 1105 and 1171 - 1188.  This "drmOpenMinor" thing is screwing up, as is your settings for Wacom Tablet.
[06:31] <Tonren> elyon225: Thouhg I don't have any direct suggestions, it'd be a good idea to Google chunks of the error messages.  If you don't find anything, search ubuntuforums.org for people who've had your problem.  If all else fails, post in Ubuntuforums.
[06:31] <elyon225> Tonren: Yeah... I don't have a tablet.  But go, bud... thanks for taking a look!
[06:32] <juano_> Tenri1: did you install a package?
[06:32] <lyml> how do I do to install the opera webbrowser, i tried searching in synaptics, but it just gave me a bunch of garble, and i tried using sudo apt-get install opera, but it returned an error
[06:32] <juano_> from synaptic?
[06:32] <Tonren> rioghal: There's an "Open link in browser" sitting there that doe snothing.  :\
[06:32] <Tonren> elyon225: You can also ask around to see if someone will help you edit your Xorg.conf file to REMOVE references to the Wacom tablet, since you don't need them.
[06:32] <Tonren> elyon225: Good luck!
[06:32] <juano_> lyml: best would be to download it directly from opera.com and download deb package from there
[06:32] <Tonren> Gotta run, all
[06:32] <Tenri1> juano: yeah, and then I realized that there's an appropriate driver in the add/remove apps program
[06:33] <default> does anyone has a second for my question, please?
[06:33] <arrenlex> elyon225: Sorry, just curious: what problems are you having?
[06:33] <juano_> !ask | default
[06:33] <ubotu> default: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:33] <Tenri1> juano_: but it says I have to uninstall the old one first
[06:33] <Xecho> Nope.
[06:33] <default> Question: I need to remove approx. 15 *-dev packages, g++, build-essentials and libc6-dev to resolve a dependency error. Do I need any of the files mentioned to run my system (booting, X-window) or are they only used for compiling matters???
[06:33] <Xecho> There is no adept command
[06:33] <Xecho> Nor canI find it.
[06:33] <Xecho> There's a Software Sources manager...
[06:33] <Taladan> ACPI....maybe it's trying to sleep on close?
[06:33] <lyml> in the user guide it says i should try to avoid installing without the packages, is there really no way to download it with the package manager?
[06:33] <rioghal> lyml, opera isn't in the official repos, you'll need a 3rd party repo or get it from the opera site.
[06:34] <farkr> asking to ask a question is a contradiction
[06:34] <Xecho> But I think the underlying problem is that it's automounting to /media/cdrecorder instead of /media/cdrom.
[06:34] <juano_> Tenri1: if its from a deb package then it would be dpkg-packagename
[06:34] <lyml> ok
[06:34] <farkr> Xecho did you install adept? that comes with kde/kubuntu but not gnome/ubuntu
[06:34] <Tenri1> juano: nope; dot-run
[06:34] <Taladan> Xecho: yes, but if you're connected to the net, you don't need that active.
[06:34] <juano_> lyml: www.opera.com
[06:35] <Infragilis> Question: Is anyone here using a Sound Blaster card in 6.10?
[06:35] <default> It is probably the error mentioned at the following website: http://shearer.org/Debugging_Dpkg_Problems - dependency error: libc6 upgrade fails - but the way it is described to solve to problem is too dangerous to my mind
[06:35] <juano_> lyml: linux support is good
[06:35] <Xecho> Xubuntu
[06:35] <J0HN> i did the synaptic install of the ati driver
[06:35] <J0HN> but now what do i do?
[06:35] <Xecho> It still asks for it whilst online.
[06:35] <farkr> i thought linux doesnt support soundblaster cards, or does it now?
[06:35] <Xecho> It's annoying.
[06:35] <JAAmon> NEED A WESTIE
[06:35] <juano_> J0HN: for changes in video you need to restart X
[06:36] <J0HN> i tried continuing forward with the directions in the documentation, but i don't know if it just did everything
[06:36] <Taladan> Xecho: do this - look for a line in /etc/apt/sources.d that looks like this:
[06:36] <Taladan> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu-Server 6.06.1 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060807.1)] / dapper main restricted
[06:36] <juano_> Tenri1: im not quite sure how you could uninstall it
[06:36] <J0HN> i guess i'll just restart x and see if that does it
[06:36] <Infragilis> Specifically, I'm trying to add my sound card's module to the /etc/modules file in nano, but I do not know how to save the modules file while in nano.
[06:36] <JAAmon> I need a western ringer ya hear
[06:36] <arrenlex> Taladan: You mean .list? =P
[06:36] <J0HN> brb in a few min
[06:36] <Taladan> and put a # symbol in front of that(those) lines
[06:36] <Taladan> yes
[06:36] <Taladan> not .d
[06:36] <Pie-rate> how would i start another X in ctrl-alt-f6?
[06:36] <Taladan> .list
[06:36] <Xecho> Can I just change that line to read "cdrecorder"?
[06:36] <Taladan> thanks arrenlex, braindead over here.
[06:36] <Xecho> Instead of cdrom?
[06:36] <arrenlex> Taladan: It's okay. I mixed up my kernels and my wines earlier and told someone the newest version of wine was 0.2.28 xD
[06:36] <farkr> Pie-rate no and why do you wanna do that :p
[06:36] <Pie-rate> fullscreen games?
[06:37] <JAAmon> west ringer with assless chaps plz
[06:37] <rioghal> J0HN, Did you read this:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:37] <marc_> how do I restart gnome panel?
[06:37] <A[D] minS> !evolution
[06:37] <ubotu> evolution: The groupware suite. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.1-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 5022 kB, installed size 38204 kB
[06:37] <Pie-rate> i've been told to do that repeatedly, yet no one knows HOW to do it
[06:37] <Xecho> Taladan: Can I just change that line to read "cdrecorder"?
[06:37] <rioghal> marc, killall gnome-panel   it'll respawn
[06:37] <Taladan> Xecho: No
[06:37] <juano_> Tenri1: though you could try installing the synaptic package of ATI, i got nvidia actually, thats why i dont know much bout ATI never really configured ATI
[06:37] <A[D] minS> how i can export all my mails from evolution ?
[06:37] <Taladan> Not to my knowledge
[06:37] <J0HN> hey
[06:37] <arrenlex> Pie-rate: You can't in ctrl+alt+f6 unless you disable gettys. You can in ctrl+alt+f8
[06:37] <J0HN> no changes
[06:37] <JAAmon> I need a west ringer. Please. Thank you.
[06:37] <arrenlex> Pie-rate: startx -- :1
[06:37] <steelb> how do i reconfigure the x server?
[06:38] <marc_> rioghal: ty
[06:38] <arrenlex> Pie-rate: (Warning: Standard "command I never use pulled out of foggy memory" disclaimer)
[06:38] <Xecho> lol the thing is that I don't care if asks for the disk, so wouldn't it be easier to just mount the disk to cdrom instead of cdrecorder? Or is that vastly difficult or something?
[06:38] <rioghal> steelb, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:38] <jughead> hello, I use ubuntu and I installed KDE using "sudo aptitude install KDE"  I selected gdm as my login manager.  When I try to start a KDE session I get an error telling me to make sure the dcopserver program is running.  what is that/
[06:38] <steelb> thanks
[06:38] <Tenri1> juano_: The Add/Remove Applications program says it conflicts with the previously installed driver and that I have to uninstall the other one first.
[06:39] <Xecho> I just don't want to be masking a problem for a single situation.
[06:39] <Taladan> Xecho: Honestly I don't know man.  You can try it, but make sure you backup sources.list before you go dinking around too heavy with it.
[06:39] <juano_> rioghal: you know solution to Tenri1problem?
[06:39] <Xecho> Ok.
[06:39] <rioghal> juano_, no :(
[06:39] <Xecho> I mean there IS a sources manager. I can just remove the CDRom area listed.
[06:39] <Taladan> Just commenting it out is how you stop it though.
[06:39] <Xecho> It's in GUI and eerything.
[06:40] <juano_> rioghal: k
[06:40] <Tenri1> I think I may have it. hold on
[06:40] <Taladan> That'll work too
[06:40] <arrenlex> jughead: Is the kdebase-bin package installed?
[06:40] <sp33dw> Trying to use minicom to connect to network device but I get this error:     minicom: cannot open /dev/ttys0: Input/output error
[06:40] <J0HN> grr! the directions call for editing xorg.conf, but i can't edit it! it's read only!
[06:40] <juano_> Tenri1: ill try searching some.. ill try to come up with something
[06:40] <Taladan> And now I've gotta go get some sleep
[06:40] <Xecho> Night, thanks!
[06:40] <sp33dw> any ideas?
[06:40] <juano_> J0HN: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:40] <J0HN> thanks
[06:41] <juano_> J0HN: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:41] <arrenlex> jughead: In answer to your "what is it" question, dcop is a communication protocol which allows KDE applications to talk to one another. Or you to talk to them.
[06:41] <J0HN> what's the diff?
[06:41] <juano_> J0HN: try second comment, ignore first
[06:41] <J0HN> k
[06:41] <juano_> !gksudo
[06:41] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using "sudo <GUI-application>"
[06:41] <jughead> arrenlex, kdebase-bin package is installed
[06:41] <rioghal> juano_, Not a good idea to use sudo with a GUI app, that's what gksudo is for.
[06:41] <J0HN> thanks
[06:41] <threeonefour> what is a good vcd utility for ubuntu
[06:41] <juano_> rioghal: read back , i corrected it
[06:42] <rioghal> juano_, Ah, yes, good job 
[06:42] <juano_> rioghal: :)
[06:42] <Tenri1> be back
[06:42] <arrenlex> jughead: Does KDE let you log in? Or does it kick you out?
[06:43] <threeonefour> what is a good vcd creation utility for ubuntu
[06:43] <jughead> arrenlex, it kicks me out.  the error appears right after the splash screen appears.  when I click "ok" it goes back to gdm
[06:44] <arrenlex> jughead: Do you know about the virtual terminals?
[06:44] <jughead> no arrenlex
[06:44] <arrenlex> jughead: I'm assuming you also have and want to use gnome on this system?
[06:44] <jughead> yes arrenlex, I have fluxbox installed as well
[06:44] <jmspeex> crimsun: got news about the Speex update?
[06:45] <tom_> hey guys i've broken my sound and i'm not sure how to get it working again, can anyone help out?
[06:46] <checkmate> will there ever be native quicktime player for linux?
[06:46] <checkmate> or is apple against it
[06:46] <arrenlex> jughead: run the "dcopserver" command in gnome\fluxbox\whatever. See what it says.
[06:47] <juano_> checkmate: no itunes support from apple to linux :( dunno quicktime
[06:47] <arrenlex> checkmate: What do you have against w32codecs? :)
[06:47] <juano_> checkmate: mplayer + xmms + kaffeine does it all
[06:48] <jughead> arrenlex, there was no terminal output
[06:48] <checkmate> ah i got nothing against anyone (except windows probably), i just think it's wierd these big companies will support each other but not the little guys
[06:48] <arrenlex> jughead: That may be either good or bad. Try starting kde now.
[06:48] <jughead> arrenlex, ok brb'
[06:48] <arrenlex> checkmate: That surprises you?
[06:48] <Taladan> checkmate: that's because the 'little guys' aren't willing to be bought out and made to shank their customers at the drop of a hat.
[06:49] <Taladan> And now, bed.
[06:50] <Aggort> I know I am an idiot, but how do I install apps with Ubuntu????
[06:50] <arrenlex> !synaptic | Aggort
[06:50] <ubotu> Aggort: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[06:50] <juano_> Aggort: Synaptic manager
[06:51] <riotkittie> Aggort: what kind of app - something you've downloaded? or from the repos?
[06:51] <Aggort> downlaoded.... from GnomeFiles.... right now it's VLC
[06:51] <jughead> arrenlex, it did not work.  the error says "could not read network connection list. /home/matthew/.DCOPserver_matthew-laptop__0"
[06:52] <arrenlex> jughead: And there's nothing weird about your home dir?
[06:53] <riotkittie> Aggort: do this instead. open a term and type ...  sudo apt-get install vnc
[06:53] <riotkittie> errr
[06:53] <riotkittie> Aggort: do this instead. open a term and type ...  sudo apt-get install vls
[06:53] <jughead> arrenlex, there is no file by that name in my home dir
[06:53] <riotkittie> errr
[06:53] <riotkittie> Aggort: do this instead. open a term and type ...  sudo apt-get install vlc
[06:53] <Aggort> k
[06:53] <Aggort> lol
[06:53] <Aggort> ritokittie: Do I do that for all apps I download??
[06:53] <arrenlex> riotkittie: do this instead. close your eyes, take a deep breath, take your fingers off the keyboard, take a short walk, and come back in five minutes.
[06:53] <juano_> Aggort: yes as long as you know the package name
[06:54] <Moosejaw> whats the best ubuntu/linux software review site?
[06:54] <juano_> Aggort: or else --->  alt + F2 then type synaptic
[06:54] <diskus> is there such thing?
[06:54] <arrenlex> jughead: You could temporarily try kdm and see if it works. But I don't know what's wrong; everything you described sounds fine. Don't see why that file is missing.
[06:54] <Aggort> It didn't find it
[06:54] <Aggort> All it was was a folder
[06:54] <Dasnipa> that and the 'best' is a hard thing to define. especially when the word 'review' is involved since reviews are opinions
[06:55] <Aggort> do i need to keep it in the t.gz?
[06:55] <riotkittie> if you're looking for something and don't know the package name, you can 'apt-cache search' or use synaptic's search
[06:55] <clearzen> My friend has quotes that appear when he logs on to his slackware box via ssh. He said that it was part of a package called bsd games. Does anyone know how I could get this to work with ubuntu?
[06:55] <Moosejaw> Dashipa:  I am bored and just want some quality ubuntu/linux sites to peruse
[06:55] <diskus> Moosejaw: http://www.softpedia.com/reviews/linux/ there's something, google helps
[06:55] <riotkittie> keep what in the t.gz?
[06:55] <Moosejaw> diskus:  Wouldnt you agree that google doesnt always come up with quality links...and often times the community here knows better?
[06:55] <arrenlex> clearzen: the bsdgames exists in the repos.
[06:55] <satix> hey all
[06:56] <arrenlex> !bsdgames | clearzen
[06:56] <ubotu> bsdgames: a collection of classic textual unix games. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.17-8 (edgy), package size 913 kB, installed size 2344 kB
[06:56] <Aggort> riotkittie: the file to install I don;t understand
[06:56] <klees> is there a way to tell Amarok to use ID3v2 instead of v1???
[06:56] <robtp> hi everyone: most of my F* keys dont work
[06:56] <robtp> help?
[06:56] <robtp> klees: im pretty sure not
[06:56] <riotkittie> the file = vlc?
[06:56] <Aggort> I dowloaded it it's in  a gz file
[06:56] <jughead> arrenlex, I need to add something to my path.  do you know how to do that?
[06:56] <Aggort> riotekittie yes
[06:56] <arrenlex> Aggort: You're trying to install a .tar.gz? That's a source tarball -- an archive (like .zip) of a program's source code, which you have to compile before you run it.
[06:56] <klees> robtp: will it use ID3v2 if I remove v1 tags??
[06:57] <robtp> klees: i dont know, read up on taglib which is what it uses for tag parsing i believe
[06:57] <Aggort> I extract the vlc folder inside
[06:57] <arrenlex> jughead: If your question is "what do I need to add to my PATH", I have no idea. If your question is, "I need to add /usr/foo/bar to my PATH," I can.
[06:57] <juano_> Aggort tar -xvf name.tar.gz to unzip it
[06:57] <riotkittie> Aggort: type "sudo apt-get install vlc" in a term. this will download the file and install it for you, as vlc is available in the repos
[06:57] <klees> robtp: k thx
[06:58] <Aggort> sudo apt-get install vlc
[06:58] <Aggort> returns
[06:58] <Aggort> E: Couldn't find package vlc
[06:58] <threeonefour> how to convert from ogg to mp3
[06:58] <somerville32> !find vlc
[06:58] <ubotu> Found: libvlc0, libvlc0-dev, mozilla-plugin-vlc, vlc, vlc-nox (and 8 others)
[06:58] <somerville32> !vlc
[06:58] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[06:58] <jughead> arrenlex, yes, someone with a similar problem added /etc/X11R6/bin to their path and it worked
[06:58] <somerville32> !info vlc
[06:58] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[06:58] <Aggort> I'm on dapper btw
[06:58] <daftvader> !network
[06:58] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:58] <juano_> Aggort: open up synaptic manager and add multiverse and universe to the repos
[06:58] <clearzen> arrenlex: I do have it installed but it still does not show the random quotes when I log in via terminal. Any ideas?
[06:58] <somerville32> !repositories | aggort
[06:58] <ubotu> aggort: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:58] <daftvader> !network
[06:58] <daftvader> !networking
[06:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <arrenlex> clearzen: Nope. I've never messed with anything like that.
[06:59] <daftvader> hi
[06:59] <daftvader> how can i access a network drive through the cli?
[06:59] <Pie-rate> how would i play fullscreen 3d games in a different tty?
[07:00] <satix> Whats the network Q?
[07:00] <satix> pie-rate: what game are you trying to play?
[07:00] <Pie-rate> satix: ut2004
[07:00] <daftvader> how can i access a share network folder in the cli
[07:00] <satix> You installing from a CD?
[07:00] <daftvader> no
[07:00] <Rio> is there a way to start a remote desktop session without being logged on to the machine? REF http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Remote_Desktop_Sharing.2FDuplication_via_VNC
[07:00] <Aggort> these repos confuse me. I dowbnloaded VLC from GnomeFiles and it was a GZ then I extracted it to desktop
[07:00] <daftvader> i have two linux boxes
[07:01] <daftvader> i want to access the network folder in the cli
[07:01] <satix> Ok, So you want setup a network share on one drive and acess through your switch?
[07:01] <riotkittie> Aggort: what about repos confuses you?
[07:01] <juano_> Aggort: and when you enter the VLC dir, can you find a "configure" file?
[07:01] <satix> pie-rate : you installing from a CD?
[07:01] <daftvader> yes
[07:01] <satix> Which ver of ubuntu?
[07:02] <emss> why not just aptitude install vlc?
[07:02] <Aggort> riotkittie: Nevermind I read something and it jsut clicked I get it lol ... Are there a lot of repositories?
[07:02] <Pie-rate> satix: that doesn't matter, its already installed. i want to play in a different tty
[07:02] <juano_> Aggort: enable multiverse and Universe repos
[07:02] <arrenlex> jughead: Problem is, I'm not sure whether that needs to be added to root path or to user path.
[07:02] <Aggort> if I new what aptitude isand how to use it
[07:02] <Aggort> lol
[07:03] <Pie-rate> since alt-tab doesn't work properly with any fullscreen apps in ubuntu
[07:03] <Pie-rate>  /sigh
[07:03] <Naik0> When i configuring torsmo i get this error,
[07:03] <Naik0> checking for X... no
[07:03] <Naik0> Sorry, X is very much needed
[07:03] <Naik0> i have X so i dont understand anything :P
[07:03] <riotkittie> Aggort: uhmmm i believe that there are others that can be added manually but i am not positive. if there are, they are something used at your own risk
[07:03] <arrenlex> jughead: Try user's path first, I suppose... add this to ~/.bashrc: export PATH=$PATH:/etc/X11R6/bin
[07:03] <Aggort> juano figured that out, but where all can I egt these repositories?
[07:03] <satix> It plays fine in a window?
[07:03] <riotkittie> Aggort: are you doing this in X?
[07:04] <arrenlex> Naik0: install the x-dev package
[07:04] <riotkittie> Aggort: do you have Synaptic open ?
[07:04] <Naik0> arrenlex: didnt work
[07:04] <Soltek> hi!
[07:04] <Naik0> tried that
[07:04] <arrenlex> Naik0: And what happened?
[07:04] <Naik0> same error
[07:04] <arrenlex> Naik0: Did it install the package?
[07:04] <Naik0> Checking for X..... NO
[07:04] <Naik0> no
[07:04] <Naik0> i cant ./configure
[07:04] <Naik0> i get that error
[07:04] <satix> Riot.. Check Private
[07:05] <arrenlex> Naik0: Did it install x-dev, is my question.
[07:05] <Aggort> riottttkittie ys
[07:05] <Naik0> yes
[07:05] <Aggort> uugghh
[07:05] <arrenlex> Naik0: Hmm... maybe xlibs-dev?
[07:05] <Aggort> Cat jumped on keyboard lol
[07:05] <juano_> lol
[07:06] <Aggort> Yes and I see all these apps
[07:06] <Aggort> I was using the add remove from the applications
[07:06] <riotkittie> Aggort: go to Settings on the menu, you'll find the repo option under there
[07:06] <satix> Riot.. You still here?
[07:06] <Naik0> arrenlex: thank you
[07:07] <arrenlex> Naik0: That worked?
[07:07] <Aggort> riotkittie: I did nice list of new apps
[07:07] <Naik0> yes
[07:07] <L0cKd0wN> hey guys i locked my screen for an hour or two
[07:07] <arrenlex> Naik0: Cool.
[07:07] <L0cKd0wN> now my mouse is gone
[07:07] <L0cKd0wN> how do i get it back?
[07:07] <L0cKd0wN> i don't wanna reboot :\
[07:07] <arrenlex> L0cKd0wN: Ask to borrow Aggort's cat.
[07:07] <satix> Why cant you reboot?
[07:07] <L0cKd0wN> it's linux, i shouldn't have to
[07:07] <L0cKd0wN> there must be a fix for this, it's been happening a lot
[07:07] <kgoetz> L0cKd0wN: restart X
[07:07] <juano_> L0cKd0wN: what mouse you got?
[07:07] <kgoetz> ctrl+alt+backspace
[07:08] <L0cKd0wN> ctrl alt backspace doesn't work
[07:08] <satix> USB Mouse?
[07:08] <L0cKd0wN> yea, logitech g5 laser mouse
[07:08] <satix> Is it plugged into a USB hub or card.. or direct into the MB?
[07:08] <L0cKd0wN> direct
[07:08] <Aggort> ha  ha
[07:08] <L0cKd0wN> this a bug in gnome?
[07:08] <satix> Does it happen only after locking the screen?
[07:09] <L0cKd0wN> nope, it happens if i restart gnome desktop manager
[07:09] <L0cKd0wN> like if i log out
[07:09] <satix> Hm.. never heard of this problem
[07:09] <L0cKd0wN> then log back in
[07:09] <L0cKd0wN> happens as well
[07:09] <kgoetz> wonder if its X not reloading a module
[07:09] <L0cKd0wN> could it be a bad line in my xorg.conf ?
[07:09] <kgoetz> L0cKd0wN: after you log out does the mouse work, or does it stop when you log out?
[07:09] <juano_> L0cKd0wN: tried it on another OS?
[07:10] <juano_> L0cKd0wN: could be bad USB
[07:10] <L0cKd0wN> it works
[07:10] <L0cKd0wN> i can't see it though,
[07:10] <juano_> L0cKd0wN: k, could be bad driver in xorg.conf yea
[07:10] <L0cKd0wN> like the arrow is gone heh
[07:10] <lyml> i dont see how it can be a bad driver, when the mouse works
[07:10] <L0cKd0wN> i have to guess where it is on the screen
[07:10] <L0cKd0wN> lol
[07:10] <yugender> I want to build the ubuntu livecd image which needs to be around 50MB
[07:10] <mcquaid> i wanted to see the apple keynote, totem vlc and mplayer fail so far
[07:11] <juano_> L0cKd0wN: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf and pastebin
[07:11] <mcquaid> anyone know a way to watch it?
[07:11] <yugender> Wht are the ways to strip the image?
[07:12] <Virtuall> yugender, what do you want on that livecd?
[07:12] <steelb> #ubuntu
[07:12] <steelb> oh
[07:12] <host`> some questions...
[07:13] <yugender> It should be a bootable CD
[07:13] <tyme-> =p
[07:13] <kgoetz> mcquaid: your probably missing some codecs
[07:13] <host`> what is the program used to write to a ntfs partition?
[07:13] <steelb> where should i go to get information on getting my HP printer working?
[07:13] <tyme-> !ntfs | host
[07:13] <ubotu> host: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:13] <host`> !ntfs-3g
[07:13] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[07:13] <yugender> It will be ok if it can be booted with  console
[07:13] <host`> fuse I think is the one I was thinking of
[07:14] <Virtuall> yugender, i'd say you need to make *some* linux bootable CD image (kernel + bootloader, not sure how it's done on CD) and debootstrap
[07:14] <juano_> lyml: could be bad driver, doesnt have to work or not work for it to be the driver, with some mouse devices choosing bad driver can disable buttons or not make it function properly
[07:14] <Virtuall> but i've never done anything similar anyway
[07:14] <host`> !fuse
[07:14] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[07:14] <yugender> I could able to do it
[07:14] <kgoetz> host`: could you pm the bot please
[07:15] <host`> ok
[07:15] <yugender> But thing is I want it as compact as possible
[07:15] <Virtuall> yugender, http://www.google.com/search?q=make+a+live+cd :)
[07:15] <L0cKd0wN> ok, finally done
[07:15] <L0cKd0wN> i feel handicapped lol
[07:15] <L0cKd0wN> http://rafb.net/p/EavQKj59.html
[07:15] <juano_> host`: to write to ntfs partition, open synaptic and install ntfs-3g
[07:15] <Virtuall> btw why do you want it to be exactly ubuntu?
[07:15] <L0cKd0wN> [alt] +[tab]  to the rescue!
[07:16] <yugender> Bcos ubuntu provides the source
[07:16] <host`> juano_, that does all the setting up with fstab automatically?
[07:16] <juano_> host`: then you have to set your win partition in etc/fstab to ntfs-3g filesystem, thats what i did worked fine
[07:16] <puff> I'm having some USB device problems, does anybody know USB under ubuntu really well?
[07:16] <yugender> which is needed for me to fix and compile one of the module for my device
[07:16] <juano_> host`: you change ntfs for ntfs-3g in /etc/fstab at your window spartition line
[07:17] <juano_> host`: that is after installing ntfs-3g of course
[07:17] <juano_> !ntfs-3g
[07:17] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[07:17] <biotrox> anyone uses icradius in ubuntu..?
[07:17] <robtp> hey, can anyone help me with accessing a hfs partition as a USER?
[07:18] <yugender> Puff wht USB prob U R facing?
[07:18] <puff> How do I figure out what device (e.g. /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, etc) my device will be mounted at?
[07:19] <puff> Something wacky is going on with my ipod, it's being mounted as read-only or something.
[07:19] <kgoetz> puff: if will use the first available
[07:19] <puff> is there a way I can designate it specifically?
[07:19] <kgoetz> puff: using udev rules....
[07:19] <yugender> You do dmesg and find your device where it got detected
[07:19] <juano_> puff once the device is connected, you do cat /etc/mtab and check to see where its at
[07:19] <math_> hello, gnome-baker would not burn a DVD, I get this message:
[07:19] <clearzen> yes there is.
[07:20] <math_> Executing 'builtin_dd if=/tmp/GnomeBaker-math/gnomebaker_copy_dvd.iso of=/dev/hda obs=32k seek=0'
[07:20] <math_> :-( write failed: Input/output error
[07:20] <clearzen> puff: do you have gtkpod?
[07:20] <linux_user400354> how can i find out what make and model my memory stick is so i can get another one exactly like it for dual channel memory slots?
[07:20] <puff> clearzen: Yeah, but it's not working.
[07:20] <tyme-> math_,  do you have permission?
[07:20] <kgoetz> linux_user400354: try dmidecode, but not sure if it will help
[07:20] <tyme-> permissions*
[07:20] <biotrox> hey please help
[07:20] <math_> tyme i also did with sudo gnomebaker
[07:20] <math_> same thing...
[07:20] <biotrox> anybody installed icradius on ubuntu..?
[07:21] <kgoetz> math_: are you srue your drives ok?
[07:21] <kgoetz> *drives
[07:21] <tyme-> math_,  is it correctly finding your hardware? Are you able to read a dvd from it?
[07:21] <clearzen> puff: umount it and then try sudo mount /dev/sda2 /media/<whatever>
[07:21] <clearzen> see if that helps
[07:21] <puff> Something wacky is going on.  I created /media/nano to add a manual mount (/etc/fstab) but then when I plugged it in, it seemingly mounted it automatically in /media/nano. However, when I delete a bunch of songs and then sync, it reports device is full.
[07:21] <math_> well I have burned in windows a few days ago
[07:22] <kgoetz> math_: hm. have you tried burning at a lower speed?
[07:22] <math_> nothing works
[07:22] <clearzen> puff: try to set the gid=1000
[07:22] <math_> it says: preparing to burn DVD
[07:22] <mcquaid> kgoetz, why does it play for you?
[07:22] <math_> then this message came
[07:22] <kgoetz> mcquaid: i havent tried, i'm just offereing a sugestion
[07:22] <clearzen> puff: in the fstab file
[07:22] <Wrongway> hi, I'm considering installing ubuntu on one of my drives... I'm wondering if my files and programs on my wind*ws drive/partition will be accessible when I'm using ubuntu
[07:23] <juano_> Wrongway: yes they will
[07:23] <kgoetz> Wrongway: you can make them availale, butr your programs wont run natively
[07:23] <mcquaid> i hear ya, well, i have the mplayer codec pak not sure what else i can try
[07:23] <math_> kgoetz, this is what the terminal says:
[07:23] <math_> ** (gnomebaker:24488): WARNING **: devices_eject_disk - ioctl failed
[07:23] <math_> ** (gnomebaker:24488): CRITICAL **: dbus_g_proxy_connect_signal: assertion `DBUS_IS_G_PROXY (proxy)' failed
[07:23] <math_> ** (gnomebaker:24488): CRITICAL **: dbus_g_proxy_connect_signal: assertion `DBUS_IS_G_PROXY (proxy)' failed
[07:23] <math_> ** (gnomebaker:24488): CRITICAL **: dbus_g_proxy_call: assertion `DBUS_IS_G_PROXY (proxy)' failed
[07:23] <math_> ** (gnomebaker:24488): CRITICAL **: dbus_g_proxy_call: assertion `DBUS_IS_G_PROXY (proxy)' failed
[07:23] <tyme-> mcquaid, use w32codec pack
[07:23] <kgoetz> math_: file a bug on dbus
[07:23] <IrishFreak> Can anyone tell me how to make a seperate partition for Ubuntu?
[07:23] <juano_> !paste | math_
[07:23] <ubotu> math_: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[07:23] <mcquaid> yes i have that. maybe it's not the latest though.
[07:24] <math_> juano_, they are just 4 rules
[07:24] <kgoetz> IrishFreak: it can be done during install
[07:24] <IrishFreak> Under more options or just normal installing?
[07:24] <math_> kgoetz, what do u mean by file a bug on dbus
[07:24] <juano_> math_: :)
[07:24] <kgoetz> IrishFreak: normal install
[07:24] <IrishFreak> ok
[07:25] <Wrongway> so all movies/pics/documents/music/etcetcetc will be perfectly available, but programs like games/windowsapps/p2p/etcetcetc would not run properly under ubuntu without extra help
[07:25] <kgoetz> !bug
[07:25] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[07:25] <IrishFreak> And i cannot connect to the internet while running Ubuntu from the disc, i have a Wireless G PCI card
[07:25] <Robokop> i have got a broadcom wireless card and finally got it partially to work, but it seem i can only recieve signal not sending, could sb help me
[07:25] <juano_> Wrongway: fair to say yes
[07:25] <math_> kgoetz, k3b some option maybe?
[07:25] <kgoetz> math_: no idea.
[07:25] <Bastiq> anyone know if i can get ubuntu running on a usb stick?
[07:25] <Bastiq> like booting from it
[07:25] <mcquaid> tyme-, or anyone else can you try the it and see if it works for you? http://stream.qtv.apple.com/events/jan/j47d52oo/m_8848125_110_ref.mov
[07:26] <kgoetz> back another time
[07:26] <tyme-> if what works?
[07:26] <tyme-> i know my mplayer plays mov files
[07:26] <geoffDeGeofff> anyone know what mimedb has been replaced with in edgy?  i used to run mimedb -l to open files with default app from command line :(
[07:26] <tyme-> and thats from apple so its guaranteed to be a quality video :P
[07:26] <mcquaid> so does mine, but does the above link play? (apple keynote)
[07:27] <tyme-> mcquaid,  download mplayer source and compiler yourself. Ubuntu and other distros disable parts of mplayer for legal reasons
[07:27] <tyme-> compile*
[07:27] <mcquaid> my mplayer plays quicktime trailers and all that, but not this
[07:27] <jcruzlara> Does anyone have any recommendations on sort of Media Center kind of program but without tv? Something like media portal for windows.
[07:27] <mcquaid> just was asking for someone to try it, no biggie
[07:28] <Wrongway> sounds fair. for ubuntu, what file system would I have to make my drive/partition for everything to be happyhappy
[07:28] <Wrongway> is NTFS ok, or is it something else
[07:28] <tyme-> ext3
[07:28] <juano_> for ubuntu? ext 3
[07:30] <Wrongway> alrighty, thanks for your help juano_
[07:32] <b3> hello.have any of you tried ulteo?
[07:33] <b3> well have you?
[07:33] <tom_> where are kernel modules stored, and how long should it take to load one?
[07:34] <puff> clearzen, juano_, okay, was starting to get somewhere and then I accidentally clicked on the heading of the Playlists frame and gtkpod crashed.  Does anybody else find that intensely annoying? So I'm trying again...
[07:34] <juano__> puff: have you tried amarok?
[07:35] <sekio> tom_: use 'modprobe' to load kernel modules; they should be automatically loaded
[07:36] <puff> Dang, stll no space left on device.
[07:36] <puff> I can try amarok, sure.
[07:36] <puff> But I suspect the problem is happening before I get that far.
[07:36] <tom_> sekio: thats what im trying to do
[07:37] <juano__> puff: what seems to be the problem exactlY?
[07:37] <tom_> sekio: i broke my sound, and i'm tyring to fix it. im trying to load a kernel module, but modprobe just moves to the next line, and doesn't print any messages saying if its worked or not.
[07:37] <heretic> what does lsmod give you tom_
[07:38] <puff> juano__: Well, it seems that i can't write changes to my ipod. I think something weird is going on with the mounting.
[07:39] <n2diy> puff, you said there was no space left on the device?
[07:39] <juano__> puff: ipod-itunes support is pretty lame, well at least i couldnt get my motorola rokr e1 to sync at all, ive tried everything
[07:39] <heretic> itunes sucks regardless
[07:39] <heretic> and so do ipods
[07:39] <juano__> puff: i suggest you try amarok or rhythmbox
[07:40] <heretic> yet every teenybopper has to have one for some fashon reason or somethin..
[07:40] <juano__> heretic: true, thats why i got an mp4 :), USBdisk , put music in and walla
[07:40] <arrenlex> juano__: voila? xPP
[07:40] <heretic> i just got a samsung a930
[07:40] <farkr> best to start using ogg and forget mp3s, keep it open source :D
[07:40] <puff> n2diy: That's what it's reporting, but it's reportinthat even when all I'm doing is trying to delete tracks.
[07:40] <heretic> holds mini sd cards up to 1 gig each
[07:41] <juano__> heretic: why complicate things when they can be easy
[07:41] <mdious> heretic:  did not agree on ipods sucking until I had to support a ceo who had one, along with a crap load of DRM licensed music which he 'lost' all the licenses for...of course he had no idea what this meant or what DRM was....*sigh*
[07:41] <puff> juano__: I don't need itunes support, I just need to be able to add/remove tracks and set up playlists.
[07:41] <farkr> amarok
[07:41] <n2diy> puff, could be there is a .trash folder on it, and all your doiing is moving the stuff there?
[07:41] <juano__> arrenlex: yeah voila
[07:42] <juano__> arrenlex: you understood didnt you ? xP
[07:42] <puff> n2diy: Well, gtkpod is what's trying to do the deleting-from-ipod.
[07:42] <leeotzu> any one knows how to open mht files under ubuntu
[07:42] <mdious> leeotzu:  what is an mht file?
[07:43] <puff> At this point I'm tempted to just reformat the ipod; not sure what's involved with that.
[07:43] <puff> Maybe try rockbox.
[07:43] <elyon225> Hey, is it possible to get ActiveX compatability in Firefox under Ubuntu?
[07:43] <leeotzu> these are the MHTML files
[07:43] <puff> elyon225: Ugh, I highly, highly doubt it.
[07:43] <elyon225> puff: Didn't think so either...
[07:43] <elyon225> crap.
[07:44] <n2diy> puff, ok, I'm not familiar with gtkpod, but I had a USB disk that ran out of room, even though I was deleting stuff from it, turns out I was just deleting to the .trash folder.
[07:44] <juano__> elyon225: crossover office or something
[07:44] <puff> n2diy: Appreciate the thought.
[07:44] <arrenlex> elyon225: Sure, if you run Windows Firefox under wine.
[07:44] <puff> Here's my dmesg, btw:  <juano__> arrenlex: yeah voila
 arrenlex: you understood didnt you ? xP
[07:44] <puff> Dangit.
[07:44] <arrenlex> elyon225: Why exactly do you need activeX?
[07:45] <elyon225> arrenlex: Not willing to do that lol
[07:45] <puff> Here's my dmesg, btw:  http://pastebin.com/855719
[07:45] <Flannel> !info kmhtconvert | leeotzu
[07:45] <ubotu> kmhtconvert: mht to war file converter. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.3-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 112 kB, installed size 552 kB
[07:45] <puff> How do I get ubuntu to use only one clipboard for cut'n paste? :-(
[07:45] <arrenlex> elyon225: Why do you need activeX? If it's only one site, just run it in IE under Wine.
[07:45] <elyon225> arrenlex: Kind of stupid, I guess... but there is just one game that I was totally addicted to before loading Linux.  And it's website only launches it through Active X (its not a web-based app... but it uses ActiveX to login to the servers)
[07:46] <arrenlex> elyon225: Run it in IE. http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[07:47] <elyon225> arrenlex: I've tried ies4linux... it didn't work for some reason.
[07:47] <arrenlex> elyon225: Did you have wine installed?
[07:47] <puff> arrenlex: The mind boggles.
[07:47] <elyon225> arrenlex: Yes.  ies4linux worked... but this game didn't.
[07:47] <arrenlex> elyon225: Oh. That's different.
[07:47] <elyon225> arrenlex: Yeah.
[07:47] <arrenlex> elyon225: ie running under wine doesn't support some components. That might be it.
[07:48] <puff> Okay, looks like pastebin ate the end of my dmesg, here's just the end:  http://pastebin.com/855724
[07:48] <arrenlex> elyon225: Out of curiosity, what game is this?
[07:48] <elyon225> arrenlex: I just figured that there would be some project out there by now that aimed for full ActiveX compatibility.
[07:48] <elyon225> arrenlex: GolfKing
[07:48] <puff> So if I comment out the lines I added to /etc/fstab, let's see where it ends up...
[07:48] <elyon225> arrenlex: http://golf.ijji.com/
[07:48] <arrenlex> elyon225: People create projects for useful, beneficial stuff which isn't available.
[07:48] <mdious> cya everyone
[07:48] <avalon> can someone please explain to me how to tell my system to use my USB logitech headset as the default device for playing sounds on throughout my system? IT's still trying to run it through my motherboard
[07:48] <iceman> On my computer i have a fat32 windows partition. I would like to know how to mount it, or maybe how copy certain things, to Ubuntu.
[07:49] <arrenlex> elyon225: Not horrible, proprietary, virus-loving crap no one needs.
[07:49] <puff> Interesting.  It started up gtkpod and gtkpod reported "'/media/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB' does not exist. Import aborted."
[07:49] <elyon225> arrenlex: And I know all about the security issues with ActiveX... just wishful thinking, I guess.  But I absolutely loved that game and I miss it ;)
[07:49] <arrenlex> elyon225: What's wrong with "direct file download"? Seems to get an .exe. Wine it.
[07:49] <biotrox> !radius
[07:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about radius - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:50] <elyon225> arrenlex: That will allow me to install it, but to actually play it, you need to go to the website, login, and then click "Play Now" which requires ActiveX
[07:50] <avalon> !headset
[07:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about headset - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:50] <arrenlex> elyon225: What's the point of installing it if you can't play it? o__o
[07:50] <elyon225> arrenlex: Exactly lol
[07:50] <puff> And /etc/mtab has two entries:
[07:50] <puff> http://pastebin.com/855725
[07:51] <iceman> I have a fat32 windows partition. I would like to know how to mount it, or maybe how copy certain things, to Ubuntu.
[07:51] <clearzen> puff: I know inodes are the memory addresses where files are actuall accessed from. If you delete links to inodes it is gone forever basicly....so did you unmount your ipod before you remounted it?
[07:51] <juano__> iceman first you would need to make a new dir, lets say sudo mkdir /media/windows
[07:52] <dawkirst> Hello. Can someone please advise me on how to mount a hard drive. please?
[07:52] <juano__> sudo mount -t vfat /dev/$windisk /media/windows/
[07:52] <juano__> iceman sudo mount -t vfat /dev/$windisk /media/windows/
[07:53] <puff> clearzen: yeah.
[07:53] <puff> http://pastebin.com/855726
[07:53] <riotkittie> removepkg xmms
[07:53] <riotkittie> ooops
[07:53] <clearzen> puff: can you see the ipod db on your ipod using ls?
[07:53] <juano__> iceman better off, try adding this to your /etc/fstab (suppose win disk is /dev/hda1):  /dev/hda1       /media/windows    vfat    gid=100,umask=0007,fmask=0117,utf8 0       0
[07:54] <juano__> iceman then run mount -a
[07:54] <avalon> Well I found the problem with mine... it's outputting to my old soundcard by default... problem is, I don't know how to change that. ANy ideas?
[07:54] <puff> clearzen: Hm, on second thought, bash history suggests I might be lyig.
[07:54] <puff> clearzen: nowait, I quit out of gtkpod and the ipod display went back to active mode.
[07:54] <puff> clearzen: So presumably tha tmeans it was unmounted.
[07:54] <billytwowilly> are there any programs like audacity but for editing video for linux? I have a couple movies I want to cut clips from. Thanks.
[07:55] <iceman> juano ok i'm writing this down.
[07:55] <ademan> why isn't netbeans in the repositories?
[07:55] <puff> clearzen: Yeah, that's what that pastebin url was.
[07:55] <clearzen> puff: As long as you can see the database for itunes using ls while it is mounted it is just a permissions issue
[07:55] <clearzen> puff: Can I suggest Rockbox. I use it and I love it.
[07:55] <juano__> iceman: hold on one sec ill paste the 4 commands
[07:56] <allme> kubuntu 6.10 does not seem to boot on the following cofiguration: gigabyte 965 gms2, 2*512mb ddr2 800mhz kingmax, intel dual core 2.8ghz, leadtek 7300 gt tdh extreeme, western digital 250 ks hdd sata 2. I removed one memory and booted in single channel
[07:56] <clearzen> I even run portable apps for work on my ipod
[07:56] <Flannel> ademan: it's not FOSS?
[07:56] <allme> is there a way to boot in dual channel?
[07:56] <ademan> Flannel: oh... lol
[07:57] <ademan> allme: what do you mean doesn't boot?
[07:57] <allme> linux woul not start
[07:57] <allme> neighter live
[07:57] <Flannel> ademan: actually, it is.  So, it's not in the repositories... because no one has put it there
[07:57] <allme> nor install
[07:58] <juano__> iceman: here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1020/
[07:59] <reverseblade> Someone please help, latest X update broke my X !!
[07:59] <puff> clearzen: Sure, at this point I've given up on what's currently on the ipod, and I have copies of all of that on archive anyway.
[07:59] <puff> clearzen: but will rockbox fix these perm issues?
[07:59] <^AnDrEw^> Hello?
[07:59] <Flannel> !hi
[07:59] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:00] <^AnDrEw^> hello
[08:00] <juano__> iceman: i made a correction, this one is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1021/
[08:00] <allme> i tried 6.06 and i had the same problem. i downloaded 6.10and it didn-t workso i tried several things (lige removing a memory module)
[08:00] <clearzen> puff: yes, it shows up as a normal usb device
[08:00] <reverseblade> anyone having problems with X with the recent update ?
[08:00] <^AnDrEw^> i need some help?
[08:00] <iceman> juano Thank You i appreciate it XD!
[08:00] <Flannel> !ask | ^AnDrEw^
[08:00] <ubotu> ^AnDrEw^: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:00] <clearzen> I haven't had a problem once with my machine and rockbox
[08:00] <juano__> iceman: no prob, last link has it all
[08:00] <ademan> allme: so do you get an error? does it go black? what?
[08:00] <reverseblade> Someone please help, latest X update broke my X !!
[08:01] <allme> it stucks
[08:01] <^AnDrEw^> Well what it is, i downloaded ubuntu and burned it to CD but wen i went to install it it just booted up insted
[08:01] <ademan> allme: what do you mean? it gets stuck where?
[08:01] <allme> the moving bar stops
[08:01] <farkr> how large should i make my swap for ubuntu if i have 768mb of ram (i read that > 500mb is overkill is it true?)
[08:01] <^AnDrEw^> i want it to format/install my current OS and stick ubuntu on it
[08:01] <ademan> during the install or while booting the livecd?
[08:01] <clearzen> puff: You will need to get some themes. I would suggest blackglass, it looks very good
[08:01] <allme> both
[08:01] <^AnDrEw^> no it didnt install
[08:01] <^AnDrEw^> just booted up
[08:02] <^AnDrEw^> i dont think it was the livecd i downloaded
[08:02] <Flannel> ademan: the Desktop CD has a liveCD, which boots, then there's an "install" link on the desktop, to install it
[08:02] <Flannel> ^AnDrEw^, sorry.
[08:02] <juano__> ^AnDrEw^: 6.10 boots into memory for a more interactive install
[08:02] <clearzen> puff: The only trade-off I found it battery life. And I still get about 4-5 hours when I am listening to music
[08:02] <n2diy> AnDrEw, there should have been an install icon on the desktop.
[08:02] <Flannel> ^AnDrEw^: if you want a plain installer, you want the alternate CD (old textmode installer).  But either of them will install it for you.
[08:02] <^AnDrEw^> ahh i didnt see
[08:02] <allme> i select the live option for ex , it starts loading and it stays that way
[08:02] <ademan> Flannel: or anyone else, how do you enable messages WITH usplash?  so that allme can figure out exactly where things are going wrong?
[08:02] <^AnDrEw^> ok thanks for your help :-)
[08:03] <sujan_dutta> how do i install net-snmp's libraries like libsnmp5 in ubuntu ?
[08:03] <^AnDrEw^> ill be back later on looking for more help with ubuntu :P
[08:03] <^AnDrEw^> most probly with wireless
[08:03] <Flannel> ademan, remove the quiet and splash options from grub
[08:04] <Flannel> ademan: which can be done at the grub menu itself, by hitting "e" on the proper menu item, then removing them
[08:04] <reverseblade> Someone please help, latest X update broke my X !!
[08:04] <ademan> Flannel: does that apply to the LiveCD?
[08:04] <sujan_dutta> HELP PLease : how do i install net-snmp's libraries like libsnmp5 in ubuntu ?
[08:04] <Flannel> reverseblade: "broke" doesn't tell us a whole lot.  What doesnt work exactly?  What error messages do you get?
[08:04] <clearzen> reverseblade: sudo dpkg --reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:04] <n2diy> sujan_dutta: with synaptic.
[08:05] <matsyes> hi does anyone know how to enable text wrapping in the ediff mode in emacs
[08:05] <ademan> Flannel: do you mind working with allme?  I think he might be able to figure out where the problem is with his livecd if he enables bootmessages
[08:05] <Flannel> ademan: I... don't believe so.  However, you should be able to hit.. um, one of the F keys, to go into an advanced options thing, then you can remove them
[08:05] <juano__> reverseblade: do what clearzen sais
[08:05] <ademan> i gotta go unfortunately
[08:05] <ademan> allme: did you see what flannel said?
[08:05] <sujan_dutta> n2diy : couldn't find the package through synaptic and apt-get
[08:05] <ademan> remove quiet and splash, it should show you your boot messages, see which one it hangs on
[08:05] <ademan> i gotta go though
[08:06] <sujan_dutta> n2diy : but i can see the package in ubuntu package database
[08:06] <matsyes> hi does anyone know how to enable text wrapping in the ediff mode in emacs?
[08:06] <allme> a second problem would be drivers. gigabyte does not offer  support for 965 gms2. where can i get them from
[08:06] <n2diy> sujan_dutta: did you enable all the repos in synaptic?
[08:06] <reverseblade> Flannel: I see the nvidia logo, and gnome initializes. You know there are small icons appear middle of the splash screen of the gnome. At the point of nautils icon x restarts
[08:06] <arrenlex> !libsnmp5 | sujan_dutta
[08:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libsnmp5 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:06] <arrenlex> Hmm. I have it in debian.
[08:06] <noobcook> does dual booting mean simutanious booting of 2 OS's say solaris and windows?
[08:06] <sujan_dutta> arrenlex : i want that package only and libsnmp5-dev too
[08:07] <ademan> noobcook: not simultaneously, when you power on your computer you would choose one
[08:07] <noobcook> is there any way to do it simultaneously?
[08:07] <juano__> noobcook: means you have the option 2 boot one or the other at start
[08:07] <arrenlex> noobcook: No.
[08:07] <clearzen> noobcook: only if you have a mac
[08:07] <ademan> with virtualization, like kvm or vmware
[08:07] <noobcook> thats gay
[08:07] <matsyes> hi does anyone know how to enable text wrapping in the ediff mode in emacs?
[08:07] <arrenlex> !coc | noobcook
[08:07] <ubotu> noobcook: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[08:07] <noobcook> id like to be able to tab between windows and linux thatd be so cool
[08:07] <ademan> clearzen: wtf? where did you pull that crap out of?
[08:07] <Flannel> reverseblade: you go back to gdm?
[08:07] <n2diy> noobcook: no it means choosing which OS to boot at boot time.
[08:07] <arrenlex> noobcook: Use vmware.
[08:07] <arrenlex> noobcook: Or wine.
[08:08] <puff> clearzen: Thanks.  Hm, gapless playback looks cool, but I'll leave that for later.
[08:08] <noobcook> i am wineing =p
[08:08] <hoelk> a mac can boot 2 system simultaneously?
[08:08] <puff> Btw who was the amarok fan?
[08:08] <ademan> arrenlex: wine doesn't really run windows at the same time
[08:08] <clearzen> parrells
[08:08] <reverseblade> Flannel: I go back to login part of the gnome
[08:08] <matsyes> !rules
[08:08] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:08] <ademan> clearzen: wow, ever hear of vmware? same thing only its not limited to windows...
[08:08] <nzbb> how do I list connected devices (specifially PCI devices) by device id?
[08:08] <puff> clearzen: Argh... I have an 8gb nano, presumably that's 2nd gen and hence not supported by rockbox.
[08:09] <arrenlex> ademan: I know that. I was suggesting it as a way to run windows applications.
[08:09] <clearzen> ademan: parrells I guess you are right....didn't think about vmware
[08:09] <arrenlex> sujan_dutta: Ah! Ubuntu has libsnmp9 and libsnmp9-dev
[08:09] <clearzen> ademan: I've been drinking lol
[08:09] <noobcook> puff u can just mount it as a mass storage device cant you?
[08:09] <ademan> clearzen: ah, haha
[08:09] <noobcook> plz dont say drinking
[08:09] <noobcook> im not gona recover
[08:09] <ademan> arrenlex: sorry, i'm being distracted, my gf is pissed i'm on the computer
[08:09] <noobcook> my stomach lurched wen i thought of alcohol lol
[08:09] <matsyes> hi does anyone here use emacs?
[08:09] <puff> noobcook: Nope.
[08:10] <puff> noobcook: Well, I can, but that doesn't solve my problem.
[08:10] <allme> thnks for help
[08:10] <reverseblade> clearzen: 1st there is no --reconfigure option, it is -reconfigure I think
[08:10] <noobcook> puff: what are u trying to do exactly with it
[08:10] <allme> i mainly wanted to submit this
[08:10] <arrenlex> ademan: http://bash.org/?60831
[08:10] <clearzen> puff: you can try this but it isn't secure add uid = 0000 gid =0000 to the fstab line for your ipod
[08:10] <reverseblade> no
[08:10] <reverseblade> well
[08:11] <mzuverink> anyone know anything about the debs made by the folks at ubuntusoftware.info?
[08:11] <reverseblade> it says unknown option --reconfigure
[08:11] <clearzen> puff: also add users,admin under users. But it is not secure.
[08:11] <reverseblade> clearzen: can you help ?
[08:11] <clearzen> reverseblade: try a single -
[08:11] <clearzen> reverseblade: so -reconfigure
[08:12] <reverseblade> clearzen: in that case it says conflicting option -r and -e it says
[08:12] <reverseblade> clearzen: so it is not single - either
[08:12] <arrenlex> reverseblade: What are you trying to do?
[08:12] <clearzen> reverseblade: one sec
[08:12] <reverseblade> arrenlex: sudo dpgk --reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:12] <arrenlex> reverseblade: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:12] <Flannel> reverseblade: right, that's gdm.  Under session, choose "safe graphics mode" or, whatever.  Does that log in successfully?
[08:12] <reverseblade> arrenlex: my X is broken after last X update, it restarts to login screen
[08:12] <clearzen> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:13] <clearzen> reverseblade: did you get that?
[08:13] <arrenlex> reverseblade: If your X starts, but stays on the login screen, reconfiguring X won't help because there are no problems with it. Something else is misconfigured.
[08:13] <puff> noobcook: add/remove songs and playlists.
[08:14] <reverseblade> Flannel: I have done it but it is the same, there was an error popup complaining about some daemons conflicting but I couldnt read
[08:14] <nzbb> how do I find the device id for a pci card?
[08:14] <noobcook> dmesg?
[08:14] <puff> clearzen: Interestingly, I umounted both /media/nano and /media/ipod-1 and quit out of gtkpod, but the nano is still showing "do not disconnect".
[08:14] <reverseblade> arrenlex: true but this happend after I installed Xorg and linux-restricted-modules 2.6.17 update (altough I am running 2.6.19)
[08:15] <nzbb> noobcook: thx
[08:15] <n2diy> nzbb: lspci
[08:15] <nzbb> will try that too
[08:15] <arrenlex> reverseblade: What's the output of uname -r?
[08:15] <clearzen> puff: As long as it does not show as mounted on your system you should be fine
[08:15] <clearzen> type mount in a terminal and it will show you the mounted items on your system
[08:16] <reverseblade> arrenlex: 2.6.19.1my_kernel
[08:16] <Hmmmm> hi guys, i have an ubuntu server. the previous admin backed up svn by copying the files rather than taking a dump. is there any way by which i can restore it?
[08:16] <reverseblade> arrenlex: it is X that is restarting after I login
[08:16] <puff> Argh, too late... i went ahead and unplugged it.
[08:16] <arrenlex> reverseblade: I don't know, sorry.
[08:17] <clearzen> puff: It happens
[08:17] <reverseblade> arrenlex: it says there  was an error with gnome settings daemon
[08:17] <Captain_Haddock> Hmmmm: try #svn
[08:17] <Hmmmm> Captain_Haddock, thank
[08:17] <Hmmmm> s
[08:17] <puff> Removed /media/nano and/media/ipod-1 and deleted /media/ipod, which was apparently an acutal directory containing actual files on my hard drive.  Plugged it back in, it automounted, brought up gtkpod.
[08:17] <arrenlex> reverseblade: Aha! A clue. I don't run gnome, sorry.
[08:17] <puff> and ls -l /media | fgrep -i ipod  ->drwx------  6 puff puff 16384 1969-12-31 19:00 ipod
[08:17] <sivik> !ipw3945
[08:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipw3945 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:18] <sivik> does anyone here run a wireless card (ipw 3945) in ubuntu
[08:18] <clearzen>  puff: so is it allowing you to sync with the ipod?
[08:18] <puff> last line in mount output is:  /dev/sdb2 on /media/ipod type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[08:19] <clearzen>  puff: That looks good to me
[08:19] <clearzen>  puff: It should allow you to delete/add files
[08:19] <Bastiq> anyone know if there is a way to see the macworld keynote in ubuntu?
[08:20] <puff> clearzen: Okay, so I just deleted three songs I dind't like anyway, and sync'd, seemed to go well.
[08:20] <clearzen> puff:good, that is progress
[08:20] <puff> Now to test it, I should disconnect it and see if the songs are really gone.
[08:21] <puff> gtkpod will try to automatically unmount it  on quit, or I can manually umount it.  Whaddaya think?
[08:21] <clearzen> puff: You can manually unmount it
[08:21] <clearzen> puff: Use sudo umount /media/<whatever>
[08:22] <riotkittie> sweet.
[08:22] <puff> Manual it is, then.
[08:22] <reverseblade> Can anyone help ? GDM restarts when I login, it says there is an error with the gnome settings daemong. Can anyone help !!
[08:23] <Flannel> reverseblade: what's the exact error?
[08:23] <juano__> reverseblade: are you unable to enter gnome?
[08:23] <clearzen> puff: It will take a few seconds to unmount it. Once it returns you to a command line it has completed the removal of the device
[08:23] <n2diy> reverseblade: did you every get the dpkg -reconfigure command to run?
[08:23] <dawkirst> Hello. I just connected another HDD, but Ubuntu picks it up as a Local Disk that "can't be mounted". Any clues?
[08:23] <SilentDis> dawkirst, what format is the drive?
[08:24] <un_operateur> dawkirst, how are you trying to mount it?
[08:24] <dawkirst> SilentDis, ntfs.
[08:24] <puff> Okay, seemed to unmount properly, doesn't show up in mount output,  but again the ipod is still showing "do not disconnect".
[08:24] <SilentDis> dawkirst, you should be able to mount it read only.  what kind of drive, and where is it connected?
[08:24] <n2diy> dawkirst: are your master/slave jumpers set?
[08:24] <puff> Go ahead and yank it?
[08:24] <dawkirst> un_operateur, well, just by clicking on it, or right clicking and saying mount.
[08:25] <un_operateur> dawkirst, errm, i think you need !fuse and !ntfs-3g for that
[08:25] <un_operateur> !ntfs-3g | dawkirst
[08:25] <ubotu> dawkirst: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[08:25] <clearzen> puff: yeah it will be okay
[08:25] <SilentDis> un_operateur, he should still be able to mount an NTFS partition RO with the default edgy install
[08:25] <mzuverink> Anyone have any information regarding packages made by ubuntusoftware.info?
[08:26] <puff> clearzen: Okay, I waited this time to be sure what you were going to say :-).
[08:26] <dawkirst> SilentDis, n2diy, it's a Seagate 120Gb, and it's on primary IDE, with no jumper settings (there's no jumper setting for slave.)
[08:26] <Captain_Haddock> Anybody aware of "medibuntu"? Is its repository safe to use?
[08:26] <hexidigital> Captain_Haddock::  do you have a link?
[08:26] <hexidigital> i'd like to see about 'medibuntu'
[08:27] <reverseblade> juano n2diy Flannel: search the forums, it happened tosome one else also
[08:27] <SilentDis> dawkirst, ok, so it's located at /dev/hda1-n, correct?  (1-n means 1 thru however many partitions are on it, probably just the one)
[08:27] <Naik0> how can i start "torsmo" a program without having a terminal i cant use
[08:27] <dawkirst> un_operateur, thanks. One thing tho, I can "see" my other ntfs partition from Ubuntu just fine...
[08:27] <Captain_Haddock> http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[08:27] <dabaR> I am trying to netboot install ubuntu on my ppc powerbook. I am using dnsmasq and tftpd-hpa. My tftpd-hpa is started standalone by running "/usr/sbin/in.tftpd -l -v -v -v -v -v -s /tftpboot -a 192.168.0.1:69", my dnsmasq.conf has the following line: "dhcp-boot=yaboot,dabar,192.168.0.1". The contents of my /tftpboot are same as http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/powerpc/netboot/. I reboot my 
[08:27] <un_operateur> SilenceGold, errm, In my experience a normal user can not mount an ntfs drive
[08:27] <Captain_Haddock> hexidigital: doesn't have anything to do with "medicine" btw..
[08:27] <Captain_Haddock> :P
[08:27] <hexidigital> Captain_Haddock::  unless your computer has a virus, i'd suppose not :P
[08:27] <SilentDis> un_operateur, true, the most you'd have to do is either sudo mount /something /somewhere -t ntfs -o ro,user though
[08:27] <un_operateur> dawkirst, the other drive might be mounted via an entry in /etc/fstab .. you could do the same with this one
[08:27] <SilentDis> un_operateur, or, add it to /etc/fstab
[08:28] <reverseblade> Flannel: juano__ , I cant read the exact error it passes to fast but from forums I can say there was an error starting the gnome settings deamon ...
[08:28] <puff> clearzen: Okay, looks like the songs are gone.
[08:28] <dawkirst> un_operateur, what exactly is /etc/fstab?
[08:28] <hexidigital> un_operateur::  i had problems in gnome mounting ntfs... those problems went away "automagically" when i switched to kde
[08:29] <clearzen> puff: good....success
[08:29] <clearzen> 8-)
[08:29] <hexidigital> un_operateur::  i haven't been able to figure out why, though
[08:29] <un_operateur> dawkirst, it's a map of paritions to mount points which are processed on boot
[08:29] <clearzen> puff: so, on a side note. Do you puff tough or what?
[08:29] <juano__> reverseblade: cat ~/.xsession-errors
[08:30] <dawkirst> un_operateur, okay, but say, for example, I pop in a USB HDD with a ntfs partition, how should it be handled?
[08:30] <Captain_Haddock> hexidigital: what do you think?
[08:31] <Naik0> If i start a program with a terminal i cant use it anymore?
[08:31] <un_operateur> dawkirst, errm, well, it depends on the format of the drive and whether or not you can mount it as a normal user -- if it were ntfs .. i'd use !ntfs-3g
[08:31] <hexidigital> Captain_Haddock::  sorry,didn't notice you posted the link... i'm taking a look now
[08:31] <dawkirst> SilentDis, I believe it is at /dev/hdb1.
[08:31] <reverseblade> juano__: lots of things, it says lost connection to screen 0.0
[08:31] <Captain_Haddock> hexidigital: Cheers
[08:32] <dawkirst> un_operateur, ok, thanks.
[08:32] <mzuverink> how do I make xchat use firefox?
[08:32] <juano__> reverseblade: are you able to enter gnome desktop? or you cant login?
[08:32] <SilentDis> dawkirst, you should be able to mount it with this command:  sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/mountlocationyoumade -t ntfs -o ro,user
[08:32] <dawkirst> SilentDis, I'll try.
[08:32] <un_operateur> hexidigital, i'm not sure how kde works with respect to removable media -- it might have it's own userspace daemon that did the "automagic"
[08:32] <riotkittie> use firefox?
[08:32] <mzuverink> riotkittie, to open url
[08:32] <dabaR> I have a powerpc netboot question here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1024/
[08:32] <reverseblade> juano__: just after I login you know there is some splash screen, where there are small icons on the middle of the screen, like nautilus , at that part it restarts
[08:33] <juano__> reverseblade: ok
[08:33] <hexidigital> Captain_Haddock::  there's a #medibuntu channel on freenode... i'd check it out there first, before using their repo
[08:33] <juano__> reverseblade: sec
[08:33] <SilentDis> dawkirst, if anything, that'll give you an error we can work with ;)
[08:33] <puff> clearzen: Dang, missed yoeu.
[08:33] <riotkittie> mzuverink: are they not being opened at all, or are they being opened in another app?
[08:33] <riotkittie> ooh brb
[08:33] <reverseblade> juano__: unable to get session bus
[08:33] <Captain_Haddock> hexidigital: okie dokie
[08:33] <Captain_Haddock> thanks
[08:33] <steelb> how do i find out my processor kernel?
[08:33] <pkh> I have a server that isn't starting some of the services (azpache2, mysql) that are listed in the rc2.d.  should I be looking anywhere in particular to find out why?
[08:33] <SilentDis> brb, i've got a beryl problem i'm working on myself over in #beryl lol
[08:33] <mzuverink> riotkittie, they are being opened in galeon
[08:34] <juano__> reverseblade: you can try this: rm   -rf  $HOME/.gnome
[08:34] <mzuverink> riotkittie, I want them to open in firefox
[08:34] <dabaR> steelb: uname -r
[08:34] <pyr0000> help please! i installed my wireless network card and installed Networkmanger to access my networks but it is so slow most pages wont load up
[08:34] <un_operateur> juano__, better if -- mv ~/.gnome ~/.gnome.bak
[08:34] <steelb> yea, well how do i figure out what i SHOULD install
[08:35] <Naik0> How can i start a program in the best way? If i start in a terminal i cant use the terminal anymore? Help...
[08:35] <juano__> un_operateur: reverseblade yea, do what un_operateur sais first
[08:35] <dabaR> steelb: you mean what is your processor architecture, I see. What processor is it? Pentium?
[08:35] <juano__> reverseblade: then execute my command
[08:35] <dabaR> Naik0: what is the program's name?
[08:35] <reverseblade> juano__: yeah but will I lose any data like my evolution e mails ?
[08:35] <steelb> amd64 3700+
[08:35] <hexidigital> Naik0::  alt+f2 will bring a run command bo
[08:35] <hexidigital> *box
[08:35] <un_operateur> pkh, you could examine messages and syslog in /var/log .. and the log files of apache and mysql .. in the same directory
[08:35] <dabaR> steelb: you need ubuntu 64 bit.
[08:36] <Naik0> dabaR: torsmo
[08:36] <reverseblade> juano__: will I lose data ?
[08:36] <steelb> i'd rather use 32bit for the compatability...
[08:36] <Naik0> hexidigital: no because iam using fluxbox
[08:36] <lupine_85> steelb: you can use 32 bit
[08:36] <juano__> reverseblade: actually youre making a backup with number 1 here: 1) mv ~/.gnome ~/.gnome.bak   2) rm   -rf  $HOME/.gnome
[08:36] <dabaR> Naik0: you can do such as nohup torsmo &, then when you want to kill it, killall torsmo
[08:36] <hexidigital> Naik0::  ah... dunno then :(
[08:36] <dabaR> steelb: right, sorry, you can use that...
[08:37] <riotkittie> ugh. i forgot xchat was set to autojoin
[08:37] <un_operateur> juano__, if #1 succeeds.. #2 is not needed (and won't work actually)
[08:37] <juano__> reverseblade: im not sure wich data gets lost
[08:37] <reverseblade> juano__: okay on my way
[08:37] <seanj_> easyubuntu argh... warns about license stuff, I hit OK then it freezes
[08:37] <steelb> i just want to know which kernel i should apt-get
[08:37] <pkh> un_operateur, I've tchecked /var/log/apache2/*, /var/log/syslog, nothing unexpected seems to be there, they just don't start...
[08:37] <dabaR> steelb: for what reason are you apt-geting a kernel?
[08:37] <Naik0> dabaR: thank you
[08:37] <juano__> un_operateur: true, thought it said cp :):)
[08:37] <juano__> un_operateur: instead of mv
[08:37] <un_operateur> pkh, errm, how do you conclude they aren't starting?
[08:37] <Captain_Haddock> lol
[08:37] <steelb> dabar, just to make sure everything matches before i go on
[08:38] <dabaR> Naik0: & means release the terminal so I can still use it. nohup means leave the program running even when I close the terminal.
[08:38] <pkh> ps doesn't show them...  a restart/start on either of them results in them starting
[08:38] <Naik0> dabaR: great!
[08:38] <n2diy> steelb: why do you think you need a new kernel?
[08:38] <Naik0> thanks alot!
[08:38] <dabaR> steelb: people usually install from CDs.
[08:38] <dabaR> Naik0: welcome
[08:38] <reverseblade> juano__: okay I did as you said
[08:38] <SilentDis> brb, gotta restart x
[08:39] <pyr0000> help please! i installed my wireless network card and installed Networkmanger to access my networks but it is so slow most pages wont load up
[08:39] <un_operateur> pkh, errm, that depends on how you are using ps there -- is it like this  -- ps aux | grep -i apache
[08:39] <un_operateur> ?
[08:39] <steelb> dabar, i know
[08:39] <riotkittie> mzuverink: try this ... go to settings -> adavced -> url handler
[08:39] <pkh> is usually use ps -Af, but yes
[08:39] <dabaR> steelb: what did you do exactly so far, and why do you think you need to install a kernel?
[08:39] <mzuverink> riotkittie, I fixed it, thanks
[08:39] <Tree> mm..guys i have a problem.In my sources.list i have ruby at the bottem (Added by the respitory GUI).But i need it deleted and i cant cos i dont have permissions what can i do?
[08:39] <juano__> reverseblade: you gotta restart X for changes to take effect
[08:39] <riotkittie> :)
[08:40] <Tree> anyone help me?
[08:40] <dabaR> Tree: use sudo
[08:40] <un_operateur> pkh, can you later start apache or mysql -- do they startup ok then?
[08:40] <steelb> dabar, i most likely don't its just on my checklist for putting up a new linux install
[08:40] <dabaR> steelb: did you boot into this install yet?
[08:40] <un_operateur> pkh, sudo apache2ctl start
[08:40] <reverseblade> juano__: I restarted gdm, it says another panel is running
[08:40] <steelb> dabar, in it right now
[08:40] <reverseblade> juano__: I'll reboot and come back wait a sec please
[08:40] <pkh> un_operateur, yep, everythings always fine if I run /etc/init.d/apache2 start (or mysql) so the init.d scripts are fine.
[08:40] <dabaR> steelb: run uname -r, and tell us what you get
[08:40] <Tree> dabAR: how would i open then edit then save it..wat are the commands??
[08:40] <steelb> dabar, 2.6.17-10-generic
[08:41] <pkh> un_operateur, and they run fine -- until a reboot at which point they just don't startup
[08:41] <dabaR> steelb: that is fine
[08:41] <un_operateur> pkh, and you are sure the links to them exist in /etc/rc2.d ?
[08:41] <steelb> dabar, ok thanks
[08:41] <Pablo> how do you lauch wpagui?
[08:41] <dabaR> Tree: what editor do you like to edit files in?
[08:41] <Tree> the default..gedit
[08:41] <pyr0000> why is wireless so slow?
[08:41] <pkh> un_operateur,  S91apache2 -> ../init.d/apache2
[08:41] <Tree> or
[08:41] <dabaR> Tree: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:41] <Tree> its text editor
[08:41] <Pablo> how do you lauch wpagui? anyone know?
[08:42] <hexidigital> Tree::  in a terminal, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:42] <n2diy> ! wpagui
[08:42] <ubotu> wpagui: GUI for wpa_supplicant. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.4-5 (edgy), package size 96 kB, installed size 224 kB
[08:42] <dabaR> Pablo: sudo dpkg -L wpagui|grep bin
[08:42] <dabaR> Pablo: see whether there is a command there for you.
[08:42] <Tree> You my friend are a god
[08:42] <Tree> <3
[08:42] <un_operateur> pkh, errm, sound good, did you examine /var/log/apache2/error ?
[08:42] <Tree> thanks guys,cya
[08:43] <setuid> Anyone know what happened to the Edgy repos? I haven't seen an update in a few months now
[08:43] <setuid> The package list hasn't changed in weeks
[08:43] <setuid> I'm trying to get a later Evolution than the pathetically-old 2.8.1 that is in the latest Edgy repos
[08:43] <pkh> un_operateur, yes, the only error for days is ' File does not exist: /var/www/help/favicon.ico' but that shouldn't affect it (it runs fine with it)
[08:43] <juano__> setuid: get thunderbird
[08:44] <kraut> moin
[08:44] <pyr0000> help please! i installed my wireless network card and installed Networkmanger to access my networks but it is so slow most pages wont load up
[08:44] <setuid> juano__, And how will that solve my Evolution problem exactly?
[08:44] <dabaR> setuid: released versions do not get application version updates, only security updates to the same versions as when released.
[08:44] <Robokop> i have got a broadcom wireless card and finally got it partially to work, but it seem i can only recieve signal not sending, could sb help me
[08:44] <w180> hi
[08:44] <setuid> juano__, I'm not looking for a better mail client, I'm looking for the latest, to test patches against my code, in pilot-link.
[08:44] <juano__> setuid: Evolution stinks against thunderbird :)
[08:44] <setuid> dabaR, So how do I get newer apps?
[08:44] <pyr0000> robokop: get network manager
[08:45] <setuid> juano__, Show me how I can sync my Palm to Thunderbird (contacts, calendar, tasks, memos), and I'll consider it.
[08:45] <Robokop> pyr0000: i got that one
[08:45] <pyr0000> robokop: i had the same problem but now i can connect and browse but its so slow
[08:45] <dabaR> setuid: you compile them. sudo apt-get build-dep evolution, then configure, make...
[08:45] <setuid> dabaR, I know how to do that, been doing it for years, I need to test the _actual debs_, because Debian/Ubuntu package maintainers like to break working upstream code with rejected and untested patches.
[08:46] <pyr0000> robokop: make sure yo disable the wired
[08:46] <un_operateur> pkh, errm, well, i'd check two things now -- make sure other links to the init scripts exist in /etc/rc2.d .. then i'd try and disable the splash screen on boot to see if errors (if any) are spit out
[08:46] <dabaR> setuid: there is a feisty repository, which has the newest ubuntu stuff.
[08:46] <setuid> dabaR, I'll run it in vmware and see what it breaks, sigh. Thanks.
[08:46] <Tree> dabaR, it says my software index is broken and to use synaptic package manager filters to find out..how do i fix it??
[08:47] <dabaR> Tree: what says that? what did you run?
[08:47] <dabaR> it says...
[08:47] <pkh> un_operateur, there are heaps of init script links in rc2.d (ssh being the most important one -- re splash screen, it's a remote server, I don't get to see anything until ssh into after boot...
[08:47] <reverseblade> juano__: it didnt work. But I reinstalled the nvidia drivers now it works fine
[08:47] <Tree> software updated
[08:47] <Tree> that what i ran
[08:47] <juano__> reverseblade: good
[08:47] <dabaR> Tree: Did you run it in a terminal, or in synaptic?
[08:48] <Tree> it was there in my toolbar
[08:48] <reverseblade> juano__: oh, I am at the office now ,and my boss would kick my ass of , if I couldn't have made it running. Thanks for helping
[08:48] <pkh> un_operateur, I've just disabled the mail serve and rebooted -- will see if that stops.
[08:48] <juano__> reverseblade: :) no prob
[08:49] <Tree> how do i use the filter to fix the broken thing dabaR?
[08:49] <un_operateur> pkh, hmm, is it just apache and mysql behaving this way, do you have other daemons failing too? as for links in rc2.d, i meant others relating to apache and mysql, particularly ones that disable those daemons for that runlevel
[08:49] <dabaR> Tree: the site you will be showing me output of the commands I tell you to run is paste.ubuntu-nl.org. I would like you to run sudo aptitude update in a terminal, and show me the output. Also, I would like to see the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list file on the same web site pastebin
[08:49] <hexidigital> Tree::  did you run sudo apt-get update?
[08:49] <Robokop> pyr0000: the problem is i can't test it at home because i only use it at school
[08:49] <un_operateur> pkh, stuff like /etc/rc2.d/K*apache*
[08:49] <Robokop> and no friendly neighbours with unprotected wlan
[08:49] <pkh> un_operateur, no, there's nothing else relating to apache or mysql in rc2.d
[08:50] <pkh> un_operateur, and i am in rc2, checked (just in case...)
[08:50] <SHRIKEE> hi all,
[08:50] <pkh> un_operateur, nope, nothing like that
[08:50] <SHRIKEE> does anyone know a trusty app for gnome, to set a alarm and play a music file atthat time? A bit like Kalarm, but for gnome
[08:50] <un_operateur> pkh, and runlevel 2 is the default according to /etc/inittab (if init is what you use)
[08:51] <un_operateur> SHRIKEE, you can always run a cron job  and make your own
[08:51] <M0ses> Hello people
[08:51] <SHRIKEE> thats inefficient for daily use :(
[08:51] <dabaR> SHRIKEE: there is also xmms-alarm, and bmp-alarm, if you use any of those apps.
[08:51] <pkh> un_operateur, yes (was just clutching at straws!)
[08:51] <Tree> dabaR, its updating now u gave me that command but its still broken cos i cant use add/remove
[08:52] <dabaR> Tree: wait til it is done, and show me the output+sources.list in the pastebin.
[08:52] <n2diy> SHRIKEE: you might have a look at Sunbird.
[08:52] <SHRIKEE> dabaR, yea i saw that, but i use rythmbox... so i was looking for an alternative
[08:52] <SHRIKEE> sunbird?
[08:52] <hexidigital> SHRIKEE::  you can install kalarm on gnome if you like... as far as a gnome app that does that, i have no idea
[08:52] <Tree> kk
[08:52] <un_operateur> SHRIKEE, do you expect to have your music play at differrent times everyday?
[08:52] <Tree> this may take a few hours tho
[08:52] <SHRIKEE> yes un_operateur
[08:52] <M0ses> question: How do I change screen resolution the Gnome configuration tool only has to 800x600!
[08:52] <SHRIKEE> if it were at the same time a cronjob would suffice yes
[08:52] <dabaR> !fixres > M0ses
[08:52] <n2diy> ! sunbird
[08:52] <ubotu> Mozilla Sunbird is a cross-platform calendar application, built upon Mozilla Toolkit. Our goal is to bring Mozilla-style ease-of-use to your calendar, without tying you to a particular storage solution.
[08:52] <SHRIKEE> but there are days i dont have school, and school starts at different times
[08:53] <un_operateur> SHRIKEE, well, a cronjob will still do, it just depends on how good you are with your editor :)
[08:53] <n2diy> ! sunbird | SHRIKEE
[08:53] <ubotu> SHRIKEE: Mozilla Sunbird is a cross-platform calendar application, built upon Mozilla Toolkit. Our goal is to bring Mozilla-style ease-of-use to your calendar, without tying you to a particular storage solution.
[08:53] <SHRIKEE> fairly new, and the roster changes often...
[08:53] <SHRIKEE> thanks n2diy
[08:53] <pyr0000> easyubuntu to use or not?
[08:53] <M0ses> dabaR: thank you
[08:53] <Linuturk> ok guys, I've trolled the forums for answers, but nothing is working. I have a DWL-122 wireless adapter. The drivers are installed via ndsiwrapper. I have set the SSID, but when i try to ifup the interface, the dhcp fails. Now, I know the dhcp is working because I'm talking to you on a laptop that got it's ip from dhcp. I need help
[08:53] <Tree> dabaR what was the command to open sources.list with admin?
[08:53] <un_operateur> pkh, errm, did the mailserver test work ok?
[08:54] <dabaR> Tree: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:54] <pkh> un_operateur, yes, i K'd it and it didn't start, S'd it and it did
[08:54] <lupine_85> pyr0000: not ;)
[08:54] <pyr0000> lupine: why not?
[08:54] <n2diy> ! easyubuntu | pyr0000
[08:54] <ubotu> pyr0000: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[08:54] <pkh> un_operateur, rc2.d -> README       S10vzquota  S19mysql          S20makedev    S20networking  S20ssh       S89atd   S91apache2   S98rmnologin  S10sysklogd  S16openvpn  S19mysql-ndb-mgm  S20mysql-ndb  S20rsync       S21sendmail  S89cron  S98rc.local
[08:54] <SHRIKEE> as for sunbird, i could as well use evolution then :P
[08:54] <SHRIKEE> maybe not sucha  bad idea
[08:55] <pyr0000> n2diy: i know i was wondering if you guys use it or if you would recomend it
[08:55] <un_operateur> pkh, oooo, use a !pastebin for long posts
[08:55] <puff> juano__: so about amarok... I'm giving it a try now, I don't see how I access the ipod in i.
[08:55] <n2diy> SHRIKEE: Evolution is the pits.
[08:55] <pkh> un_operateur, sorry, thought that'd be ok
[08:55] <SHRIKEE> n2diy, what do you mean with that?
[08:55] <puff> juano__: Oh, I see "media devices" now.
[08:56] <dabaR> SHRIKEE: calculate the difference in seconds between when you set the alarm, and when you want to be woken up, call the difference X. then run sleep X; rhythmbox blah.ogg
[08:56] <juano__> puff:
[08:56] <SHRIKEE> ew
[08:56] <dabaR> hehe
[08:56] <SHRIKEE> :P
[08:56] <Naik0> what is the commando i can see info about something, e.g fluxbox?
[08:56] <juano__> puff: yeah, you can connect to it through media devices
[08:56] <n2diy> SHRIKEE: I tried it and didn't like it, I forget exactly why now. Sunbird is better, but neither one of them is korganizer.
[08:56] <Naik0> what version iam using
[08:56] <SHRIKEE> korganizer is sexy yes
[08:56] <juano__> puff: then add a song to list and sync it
[08:57] <dabaR> Naik0: see whether fluxbox --version works.
[08:57] <SHRIKEE> oh well, i'll continue my search :) thanks for the honts
[08:57] <Robokop> Naik0: often command --version
[08:57] <SHRIKEE> hints
[08:57] <kouran> hello. how do i get vlc to play my dvds? i have installed libdvdcss
[08:57] <Robokop> Naik0: and for other info man <command>
[08:57] <un_operateur> pkh, errm, i dunno what else -- maybe (backup first) edit the /etc/init.d/apache2 script and include some debug messages that can be redirected into your own custom log .. or reinstall apache and mysql after backing up the configuration files
[08:57] <Tree> dubaR: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1025/
[08:57] <Tree> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1026/
[08:57] <n2diy> ! korganizer
[08:57] <ubotu> korganizer: KDE personal organizer. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1530 kB, installed size 4596 kB
[08:58] <kouran> hello. how do i get vlc to play my dvds? i have installed libdvdcss
[08:58] <un_operateur> Naik0, what information precisely?
[08:58] <pkh> un_operateur, ok, thanks heaps for your help.
[08:59] <dabaR> Tree: close your synaptic.
[08:59] <Naik0> un_operateur: version of fluxbox
[08:59] <dabaR> Tree: run sudo aptitude update again, and post the output of it again, and give me a link, pls.
[08:59] <un_operateur> Naik0, fluxbox -v and fluxbox -i
[08:59] <Tree> dabar: heres the eror when i open the gui updater:
[08:59] <Tree> It is impossible to install or remove any software. Please use the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo apt-get install -f" in a terminal to fix this issue at first.
[09:00] <IntuitiveNipple> Has anyone dealt with the issue of firestarter rules preventing synce/multisync from symchronising with a PDA ?
[09:00] <dabaR> Tree: then close synaptic, run "sudo aptitude update;sudo aptitude -f install;sudo aptitude install -f;sudo apt-get -f install;sudo apt-get install -f"
[09:01] <dabaR> Tree: show me the output you get from that on the pastebin, please.
[09:01] <dabaR> Can you read this if you have some knowledge of ppc netboot or netboot in general: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1024/ ?
[09:02] <kouran> hello. how do i get vlc to play my dvds? i have installed libdvdcss ......can anyone help?
[09:03] <puff> juano__: To create a playlist, it looks like I just drag stuff from the media pane on the left to the big pane on the right, then do "Playlist/Save as Playlist", but how do I get it onto the media device?
[09:03] <dabaR> kouran: you should follow instructions for dvd shown here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[09:03] <puff> juano__: Does it automatically save onto the media device because I'm dragging stuff onto it from the media device pane?
[09:03] <alumno02> hola
[09:03] <dabaR> hola!
[09:04] <alumno02> quien ers??
[09:04] <dabaR> !es | alumno02
[09:04] <ubotu> alumno02: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:04] <kouran> dabaR, ive done that. i said ive installed the packages. i still can get it to work
[09:04] <alumno02> im spanish!!
[09:04] <un_operateur> dabaR, /var/log/tftpd.log perhaps? -- or use the --logfile option to tftpd (man tftpd) to set one
[09:05] <dabaR> Im yugoslavian!!
[09:05] <alumno03> olaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[09:05] <Tree> still doing that check
[09:05] <alumno02> ey!! q tl? wapa??
[09:05] <alumno03> k tal?
[09:05] <alumno03> kien eres?
[09:05] <n2diy> ! spanish
[09:05] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:05] <alumno02> yp soy carm,en!
[09:05] <puff> juano__: Garrr... still no playlists on the ipod.
[09:05] <dabaR> as if anyone is buying that.
[09:05] <alumno03> ola presiosa
[09:05] <RODvido> !south african
[09:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about south african - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:06] <RODvido> lol...
[09:06] <n2diy> ! sa
[09:06] <ubotu> For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join     #ubuntu-sa
[09:06] <alumno03> carmen una cosa
[09:06] <juano__> puff: you should right click on the songs in the list , there should be an option move to media.. or something like that dont recall much
[09:06] <juano__> puff: try with songs in your library
[09:06] <alumno02> q
[09:06] <puff> juano__: well, right now I have all the songs I want on the ipod (for now at least), I want to create a playlist.
[09:06] <Jowi> alumno02, "/join #ubuntu-es"
[09:06] <alumno03> kieres venir a drmir a mi casa el viernes  alumno 02??
[09:07] <alumno02> emm
[09:07] <alumno02> lo pensare
[09:07] <dabaR> un_operateur: the thing is that there is nothing related to tftp in /var/log/, and there is also no log option that I can see in the tftpd manual.
[09:07] <alumno03> weno....asi despues d caballo.....y luego el sabado!!!!!!!
[09:10] <k010> whats ab lp driver?
[09:10] <k010> whats an lp driver?
[09:10] <dabaR> a printer driver, maybe.
[09:10] <dabaR> where did you see that?
[09:10] <k010> within the dmesg
[09:10] <^AnDrEw^> im back agen
[09:11] <dabaR> well, show exact line...
[09:11] <k010> it says loaded lp driver but no device found
[09:11] <Tree> dubaR: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1027/
[09:11] <Tree> it works!!
[09:11] <Tree> <3
[09:11] <k010> [17179590.352000]  lp: driver loaded but no devices found
[09:11] <dabaR> Tree: good work.
[09:11] <Tree> no, u did it all
[09:11] <Tree> thankyou
[09:11] <dabaR> k010: ask google for that line.
[09:11] <kouran> can someone please help me with getting dvd to work? ive installed libdvdcss
[09:12] <n2diy> ! dvd
[09:12] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:12] <dabaR> k010: ya, it looks like it is a printer driver.
[09:12] <den_> ! expect tcl
[09:12] <ubotu> expect: A program that can automate interactive applications. In component main, is optional. Version 5.43.0-6 (edgy), package size 274 kB, installed size 520 kB
[09:12] <kouran> i just said ive installed libdvdcss....
[09:13] <k010> dabaR, ok
[09:13] <dabaR> k010: do you have a printer connected?
[09:13] <den_> !component main
[09:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about component main - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:13] <k010> dabaR, no i dnt
[09:13] <nhamilton> hey all.. anyone able to give me some tips or point me in the directions for setting up dual-head monitors with an intel driver, using DVI and VGA output? i've been looking for hours and its killing me... I got it going on a different machine using fglrx, but no idea how to get it working with the intel drivers...
[09:13] <dabaR> !components > den_
[09:13] <dabaR> k010: that would make sense...
[09:14] <den_> thanks
[09:14] <alumno02> HOLA!!!!
[09:14] <alumno02> how are you?'
[09:16] <alumno02> hello!!
[09:16] <alumno02> how are you!!
[09:16] <foRza> Does anyone know how the auto-mount system works on ubuntu, and how to configure it?
[09:16] <alumno02> no!
[09:16] <spamas> helloppl
[09:16] <spamas> how it's going :}
[09:17] <SilentDis> !hi | alumno02
[09:17] <ubotu> alumno02: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:17] <talisein> nhamilton: did you see http://intellinuxgraphics.org/man.html#layout ?
[09:17] <Cousarr> I was attempting to install ubuntu earlier and it's not recognizing my raid array. I've got a disk with the RAID drivers, but ubuntu doesn't ask for it before asking to create partitions. Any ideas?
[09:17] <alumno02> aaa ok!
[09:17] <Lc_945x3> foRza: if you are running gnome, you can go to system Removable devices and drives and configure it from there.
[09:17] <alumno02> where are you from??
[09:18] <alumno02> where are yuo from?
[09:18] <nhamilton> hi talisein
[09:18] <Cousarr> alumno02: To whom was that directed?
[09:18] <gandalfcome> I have trouble with dual screen on edgy. my graphics card is a ati mobility x700. whenever I shift the mouse to the second screen. I get an annoying offset of the mouse on the first one. meaning: If I want to click a button I have to shift the mouse pointer above the actual button. please help
[09:18] <talisein> nhamilton: hi
[09:18] <nhamilton> i did start looking through the intellinux graphics page, but it appears to be down at the moment....
[09:18] <n2diy> alumno02: there are 888 users here, do you want us all to answer you? If you have a question ask it.
[09:18] <SilentDis> alumno02, this is mainly a help forum for the Ubuntu Linux operating system, and it's many offspring, not a 'social channel'.  got a question about ubuntu we can help you solve?
[09:19] <alumno01> hello!!!
[09:19] <dabaR> foRza: Well, the partitions that automount at boot are all specified in /etc/fstab.
[09:19] <Lc_945x3> Cousarr,  do you have hardware raid as in on board raid or its derivatives, or are you going the software route
[09:19] <pradeep> spamas, not very well
[09:19] <Lc_945x3> ?
[09:19] <alumno01> whwre are you from??
[09:20] <talisein> nhamilton: works for me. Try puttying Option MonterLayout "CRT+DFP"
[09:20] <n0ne> Can anyone help me with sound in kubuntu?
[09:20] <foRza> The problem is when I insert an USB pen, I see in mtab that the system mounted it with "async". I need "sync".
[09:20] <Cousarr> It's hardware. Specifically the onboard SATA on the Asus A8V
[09:20] <alumno02>  SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:20] <SilentDis> alumno01, alumno02, please, ask your question about ubuntu.
[09:20] <alumno01> hols alumno 02
[09:20] <nhamilton> talisein: and using the installed i810 driver?
[09:20] <SilentDis> !es | alumno02
[09:20] <ubotu> alumno02: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:21] <alumno02> hola alumno01
[09:21] <gandalfcome> noone has an ati dual screen setup?
[09:21] <Lc_945x3> Cousarr: hrm, sorry I cant really help you then.. I had the same problem when I was installing linux to my raid array but I set up a software raid and that worked out ok.
[09:21] <talisein> nhamilton: aww, intel page says monitorlayout is only supported on 830M+
[09:21] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:21] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:21] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:21] <SilentDis> last time...
[09:21] <SilentDis> !es | alumno02
[09:21] <ubotu> alumno02: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:21] <n2diy> ! caps | alumno02
[09:21] <Lc_945x3> Cousarr: If  worse comes to worse you can always just ditch the onboard raid as using software raid should give you the same performance
[09:21] <ubotu> alumno02: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[09:22] <alumno03_> olasss
[09:22] <SilentDis> !ops
[09:22] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[09:22] <alumno03_> k tal wapiximas?
[09:22] <Cousarr> I'm attempting to do a dual boot system. WinXp and ubuntu. Would a software solution work cross-platform?
[09:22] <sjr> Um why does Ubuntu support hibernation if there is no swap partition available
[09:22] <alumno02> I'M DON'T SHOUT!
[09:22] <un_operateur> .   o   0 (  wonder why alumno needs to be logged in multiple times)
[09:22] <dabaR> alumno02: please do not repeat yourself in the channel, or we will have to remove you from the channel. If you need help in spanish, type "/j #ubuntu-es". If you have an Ubuntu support question, please ask in english here, and we will do out best to help.
[09:22] <alumno03_> ana...HOLA
[09:22] <sjr> Question 2) what is the default password for the ubuntu user on the screen saver
[09:22] <alumno03_> carmen...HOLA
[09:22] <^AnDrEw^> can someone help me>
[09:23] <alumno02> HOLA!!! ELENITA,WAPA!
[09:23] <^AnDrEw^> i cant click install on ubuntu
[09:23] <alumno03_> k tal bmb?
[09:23] <dabaR> sjr: in the live CD?
[09:23] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:23] <talisein> nhamilton: I don't see anything on how to get it to work on i810. =(
[09:23] <sjr> dabaR yeah
[09:23] <nhamilton> doh
[09:23] <puff> juano__: Okay, so still no playlists, but at least I can add files.  I do find amarok simpler and easier than ipod, now that I know how it's supposed to work.
[09:23] <QwertyM> hey, I am getting an update for Linux-kernel generic but when I try installing that it says nvidia-glx will be removed
[09:23] <frogzoo> !es | alumno02
[09:23] <ubotu> alumno02: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:23] <alumno03_> Hi andrew
[09:23] <talisein> alumno02: /join #ubuntu-es
[09:23] <QwertyM> scares me
[09:23] <alumno01> hello
[09:23] <puff> juano__: Thanks, and please, if you see clearzen, relay my thanks.
[09:23] <dabaR> sjr: I do not think there is a password. You can try adding one, but maybe just kill the screensaver process...
[09:23] <alumno02> HOLA ANA,WAPA!!!
[09:23] <alumno03_> Hi frogzoo
[09:23] <^AnDrEw^> is there any other way i can do it without loading the main ubuntu screen?
[09:24] <alumno01> jeje
[09:24] <SilentDis> frogzoo, talisein, i've tried that twice, he's multi in, and channel spamming.  i did an !ops already
[09:24] <alumno01> prexiosa
[09:24] <alumno02> HELLO PUFF!
[09:24] <nhamilton> talisein: so i can't use my brand new 24" LCD monitor in dual mode :(
[09:24] <alumno03_> ok ok I not speak english
[09:24] <alumno03_> andrew
[09:24] <dabaR> ^AnDrEw^: get the alternate CD.
[09:24] <alumno01> hello
[09:24] <^AnDrEw^> where from?
[09:24] <alumno02> NO!
[09:24] <talisein> nhamilton: if you have 24" then why do you need a second monitor? ;)
[09:24] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:24] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:24] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:24] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:24] <Lc_945x3> Cousarr: hrm if you are dual booting and already have the onboard raid set up with windows its prolly going to be a bitch to reconfigure it
[09:24] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:24] <SilentDis> !ops
[09:24] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:24] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[09:24] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:24] <frogzoo> !ops
[09:24] <alumno03_> mallorca and you andrew?
[09:25] <un_operateur> !medic
[09:25] <n2diy> ! ops
[09:25] <alumno01> hello
[09:25] <dabaR> ^AnDrEw^: releases.ubuntu.com/edgy
[09:25] <QwertyM> hey, I am getting an update for Linux-kernel generic but when I try installing that it says nvidia-glx will be removed
[09:25] <alumno02> andrew!!!
[09:25] <nhamilton> talisein: its like a mistriss and a wife...
[09:25] <alumno03_> andrew where are toy from?
[09:25] <alumno02> andrewww
[09:25] <nhamilton> *mistress
[09:25] <alumno01> hellow andrew
[09:25] <alumno02> are you here??
[09:25] <alumno03_> how old  are you?
[09:25] <^AnDrEw^> no
[09:25] <talisein> nhamilton: naughty. ;) Or is this a screen that you're hooking up to your laptop?
[09:25] <alumno02> no?
[09:25] <Cousarr> Heh, yeah. I wouldn't mind the reinstall though as I recently replaced the drives anyway. It would just take a stronger motivation than the two i've got for finally getting around to the install tonight.
[09:26] <alumno03_> aaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnddddddddddrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[09:26] <alumno03_> ANDREW
[09:26] <alumno03_> ANDRIU
[09:26] <alumno01> hello erik
[09:26] <alumno02> andrew: where are you from?
[09:26] <^AnDrEw^> uk
[09:26] <alumno02> ok
[09:26] <SilentDis> please don't feed the trolls
[09:26] <SilentDis> lol
[09:26] <IntuitiveNipple> If anyone wants to ignore the spam - simply type /ignore <nickname>
[09:26] <QwertyM> ^AnDrEw^, I doubt if he's talking to you :p
[09:26] <nhamilton> talisein: no, just a desktop... i hooked my laptop in using synergy hehe... I know it sounds like overkill, but it would really be helpful.. plus I want to work on my LCD tan
[09:26] <mneptok> !es > alumno02
[09:27] <alumno02> i'm spanish!
[09:27] <alumno03_> HOW OLD ARE YOU ANDREW
[09:27] <talisein> nhamilton: are you sure you only have an i810 chip?
[09:27] <alumno03_> ?
[09:27] <Lc_945x3> Cousarr: hmm well I've never set up software raid in windows but I don't think it would be that hard. As for installing ubuntu on the raid if you go the software raid route it should work.
[09:27] <alumno01> hello andrew
[09:27] <mneptok> !offtopic > alumno01
[09:27] <alumno01> how are you?
[09:27] <alumno02> andrew: how old are you?
[09:27] <nhamilton> sorry - i thought i mentioned that I had a intel 945G chip
[09:28] <talisein> nhamilton: no, that's key
[09:28] <n2diy> mneptok: they've been at it for 15 minutes.
[09:28] <un_operateur> por qu eres el actuar enojado? si necesitas ayupor qu eres el actuar enojado? si necesitas ayuda en espaol, ir por favor al #ubuntu-es, al #kubuntu-es o al #edubuntu-es.da en espaol, ir por favor al #ubuntu-es, al #kubuntu-es o al #edubuntu-es.
[09:28] <nhamilton> the i810 driver is what got installed
[09:28] <IntuitiveNipple> To ignore the spammers type: /ignore *!*@*.ono.com  ALL
[09:28] <mneptok> n2diy: charming
[09:28] <alumno02> aNdrew. how old are you??
[09:28] <talisein> IntuitiveNipple: thank you
[09:28] <Lc_945x3> Cousarr: See what I did for the install of the software raid was I installed linux to one of the drives first
[09:28] <talisein> nhamilton: ok hold on
[09:28] <alumno01> plis answer thwe question: where are you from??andrew
[09:28] <Lc_945x3> then I configured the system to support raid 0
[09:28] <Lc_945x3> then just added the other drive
[09:29] <alumno03_> andrew !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ANDREWWW
[09:29] <SilentDis> IntuitiveNipple, thank you for that.  wonder what happened to the ops.  they usually like to put the big boot of kickination on right away for stuff like this lol
[09:29] <dabaR> haha
[09:29] <alumno03_> CAPULLO
[09:29] <alumno01> cabronb
[09:29] <alumno01> 
[09:29] <IntuitiveNipple> SilentDis: Probably fast asleep in bed :)
[09:29] <talisein> nhamilton: the i810 package is just the generic package for all intel drivers
[09:29] <alumno02> andrew are you dide?
[09:29] <alumno01> capullo
[09:29] <alumno02> cabron
[09:30] <SilentDis> IntuitiveNipple, like all of us should be, i suppose.  lol
[09:30] <talisein> nhamilton: if you put Option "MonitorLayout" "CRT+DFP" in your section device, it should work
[09:30] <Tree> dabaR: would you know how to install jdk??
[09:30] <IntuitiveNipple> Well maybe... it's 8.30am here :)
[09:30] <alumno02> andrew are you dide????
[09:30] <talisein> nhamilton: if not try a comma instead of a +
[09:30] <Cousarr> The only problem I see with that, is that the WinXp OS wouldn't be able to benefit from the linux-side software RAID
[09:30] <alumno02> where are you?
[09:30] <dabaR> Tree: that is simple. I think...
[09:30] <alumno01> no sabes lo k
[09:30] <mneptok> Tree: enable the Universe repo. the Sun JDK is in there
[09:30] <alumno01> ...
[09:30] <Tree> o iv alrdy downloaded it
[09:30] <fokuslee> damn im addicted to ubuntu need to sleep god damn it worst mistake of my life to install this crap
[09:31] <SilentDis> !troll
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:31] <Tree> how do i enable the universal repo??
[09:31] <dabaR> Tree: just install sun-java5-jdk through synaptic, after enabling the multiverse repository in synaptic.
[09:31] <harp> kern.log:Jan 10 02:38:54 harp kernel: [17179845.940000]  eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x45E1Jan 10 02:39:04 harp kernel: [17179856.040000]  eth0: no IPv6 routers present      what does it mean?
[09:31] <mneptok> !universe | Tree
[09:31] <ubotu> Tree: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:31] <IntuitiveNipple> To all you new-comers, to ignore the spammers type: /ignore *!*@*.ono.com  ALL
[09:32] <SilentDis> !ops
[09:32] <n2diy> ! ivp6 | harp
[09:32] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[09:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ivp6 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:32] <SilentDis> IntuitiveNipple, maybe, enough client beeps, and it'll wake 'em up, so they can kickinate him :)
[09:32] <n2diy> ! ipv6 | harp
[09:32] <ubotu> harp: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[09:32] <harp> thnx
[09:32] <Cousarr> At least as far as I understand how a software RAID would work. If linux is managing the RAID, and I don't boot 'nix but instead boot XP, XP doesn't see the RAID; which would leave me with the same problem.
[09:33] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:33] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:33] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
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[09:33] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:33] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:33] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:33] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:33] <alumno01> whwt you ignor alumno?
[09:33] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:33] <nhamilton> talisein: just tried it, its given me a black screen.. I'll just double check the settings
[09:33] <IntuitiveNipple> Cousarr: That is correct, unless you're using a 'FakeRAID' card that has Windows drivers, such as Promise FastTrak etc
[09:33] <alumno01> why you ignor alumno?
[09:33] <Tomcat_> !es | alumno01
[09:33] <ubotu> alumno01: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:33] <alumno02> aRE you speak sapnish?
[09:33] <talisein> nhamilton: is intellinuxgraphics.org still not working for you? theres a lot of options to play with. ;)
[09:34] <IntuitiveNipple> If using 'FakeRAID' in Linux via dmraid, both Windows and Linux can use it from boot
[09:34] <Tree> yeh dabaR i have no idea wat to do?
[09:34] <SilentDis> Tomcat_, don't bother, we've tried multiple times, and the devs are all sleeping right now.  ah well :)
[09:34] <SilentDis> Tomcat_, er, not devs, ops.
[09:34] <Cousarr> Well, I'm using a hardware RAID right noe that's of via make. That's what I was originally trying to get to work. Is there some reason a fake RAID would work, but a hardware wouldn't?
[09:35] <alumno02> andrew are you here?
[09:35] <IntuitiveNipple> Cousarr: no, because by its nature a true hardware raid is invisible to the OS
[09:35] <nhamilton> talisein: yeah - seems i can't resolve the dns for it... I'm in Australia... I can hit other pages fine atm...
[09:35] <SilentDis> Cousarr, just curious:  what kind of hardware raid controller are you using?  there's a SLIM chance that there's some weird incompatability with ubuntu and it...
[09:35] <Tree> dabaR?
[09:35] <Cousarr> Asus A8V onboard via SATA
[09:36] <talisein> nhamilton: try 204.253.143.234
[09:36] <SilentDis> Cousarr, hang on, i'm hitting google on it...
[09:36] <nhamilton> talisein: what is the best approach to getting out of X when I can't see anything? do i have to reboot the computer?
[09:36] <dabaR> Tree: are you still trying to install the jdk?
[09:36] <IntuitiveNipple> Cousarr: That's a Promise FakeRAID I believe
[09:36] <talisein> nhamilton: hit CTRL-ALT-Backspace a few times
[09:36] <Tree> yeh i cant find it
[09:36] <Tree> i downloaded it tho
[09:36] <Tree> i have it in my home/luke/
[09:36] <n2diy> nhamilton: ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:37] <Tree> just dunno wat to do with it once its extracted
[09:37] <Cousarr> Hmm... I thought the promise controller was the IDE on this mobo
[09:37] <IntuitiveNipple> Cousarr: It's the Promise PDC20378
[09:37] <talisein> nhamilton: if that doesn't work after a minute, try ctrl-alt-F1
[09:37] <talisein> nhamilton: if that gives nothing, rebooting is probably faster than waiting to see if its actually frozen
[09:37] <dabaR> Tree: does aptitude search jdk return anything?
[09:37] <nhamilton> thanks... didn't work...  i think i tried the f1 combo
[09:37] <Tree> no dabaR
[09:37] <IntuitiveNipple> Cousarr: Promise specialises in FakeRAID as its called - they provide drivers. I have the same thing here on a couple of systems
[09:37] <talisein> nhamilton: does your caps lock light turn on on your keyboard?
[09:38] <Tree> i problem with jdk is that i have to set the classpaths
[09:38] <nhamilton> yeah, it does
[09:38] <IntuitiveNipple> In Linux I use the dmraid package, and in windows the standard promise drivers
[09:38] <nhamilton> c-a-f1 didnt work either
[09:38] <SilentDis> Cousarr, check this page out:  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=237036
[09:38] <talisein> nhamilton: hmm. well, try ctrl-alt-del
[09:38] <nhamilton> that IP resolved to BUGHOST.ORG
[09:38] <n2diy> talisein: nhamilton, if you can't turn your caps led on and off, your locked.
[09:38] <Cousarr> I've got the drivers on a disk already. The problem was I wasn't sure where to give them to ubuntu during the install process. Taking a look at the link now.
[09:38] <nhamilton> that rebooted me...
[09:38] <IntuitiveNipple> Cousarr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[09:38] <nhamilton> aps locks lit up...
[09:39] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:39] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:39] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:39] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:39] <nhamilton> do i need to do something in grub to boot into command line?
[09:39] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:39] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:39] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
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[09:39] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:39] <Infeliz> STFU
[09:39] <Kristov> ...
[09:39] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
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[09:39] <somerville32> !stfu | Infeliz
[09:39] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:39] <ubotu> Infeliz: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[09:39] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:39] <Kristov> boulzor
[09:39] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
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[09:39] <somerville32> !traffic
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[09:39] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:39] <talisein> nhamilton: bughost.org? really? weird
[09:39] <Infeliz> !noob somerville32
[09:39] <alumno02> bay!
[09:39] <Smotang> !spanish
[09:39] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:39] <SilentDis> Cousarr, from the looks of it, it can't be used as a boot device, at least not without a LOT of poking and prodding.
[09:39] <dabaR> Tree: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, edit line "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe main restricted", change to "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe main restricted multiverse", save, close. run "sudo aptitude update". then see whether you get results from aptitude search jdk
[09:40] <talisein> nhamilton: oh
[09:40] <nhamilton> redirects to http://204.253.143.234/bugzilla/
[09:40] <Tree> any idea dubaR?
[09:40] <talisein> nhamilton: they're doing virtual servers, and that is co hosted
[09:40] <nhamilton> ah
[09:40] <SilentDis> Cousarr, so, you can boot from a 3rd drive, and then use the RAID as your /home I guess, but you'll have to set it all up after ubuntu is installed
[09:40] <talisein> nhamilton: echo "204.253.143.234 intellinuxgraphics.org" >> /etc/hosts
[09:41] <talisein> nhamilton: well, sudo
[09:41] <Cousarr> Hmm... Well I've got a good bit of information here to digest. So thanks for the help guys, I'll see if I can't get it to work.
[09:41] <IntuitiveNipple> Cousarr: As it stands its very difficult to have ubuntu boot from the FakeRAID... see my articles in the forums...  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=313684
[09:41] <SilentDis> Cousarr, take care :)
[09:41] <dabaR> netboot + ppc issue: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1024/ Ideas?
[09:41] <talisein> nhamilton: it should work then. dunno why its not resolving for you
[09:41] <nhamilton> ahhhh :)
[09:42] <talisein> nhamilton: it works? :)
[09:42] <nhamilton> yeah, now i have a manual!!
[09:43] <talisein> nhamilton: before we did all that I should have directed you to /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-video-i810/
[09:43] <talisein> nhamilton: there is likely a copy there >>
[09:43] <IntuitiveNipple> lol
[09:43] <nhamilton> ah :)
[09:43] <SilentDis> BOOM!  *giggle*
[09:44] <IntuitiveNipple> party-time!
[09:44] <fabbione> anymore?
[09:44] <Jowi> nhamilton, in grub highlite what you want to boot and press "e" to edit it. select the kernel line and press "e" again to edit that. at the end of the line add "single" (to boot into single user mode with root access) or a number like 3 (to boot into runlevel 3). in single user mode you can adjust runlevel 3 to not run gdm/kdm.
[09:44] <SilentDis> fabbione, nope, i think that got it.  thank you, sorry to wake you :)
[09:44] <fabbione> nah.. i was awake 4 hours ago already
[09:45] <fokuslee> realyplayer plays really choppy like 3 frames then stop then couple more but the sound is ok any ideas?
[09:45] <Jowi> nhamilton, after you're done with the editing of the line, press "enter" and then the "b" key to boot.
[09:45] <fokuslee> oh realplayer 64 bit
[09:45] <talisein> oh yeah, that's a good point
[09:45] <pi__> hi guys
[09:45] <dabaR> hi, pi__
[09:45] <nhamilton> ok, cheers mate - just doing that now
[09:45] <pi__> I'm looking for installa pureftp and pureadmin
[09:45] <SilentDis> dabaR, darn you, i was still typing, i wanted to say that first *pout*
[09:46] <Jowi> nhamilton, the changes you make when "e" in grub menu is only temporary
[09:46] <pi__> has anyone some good hoeto?
[09:46] <pi__> howto
[09:46] <xipietotec> I have not met fabbione =) Hi!
[09:46] <fabbione> hi
[09:46] <FaithX> The title bar in OpenOffice is all messed up... just graphics garble... any ideas? All the rest of the apps seem ok.
[09:47] <nhamilton> ok, thanks.. thats what i had thought.. hadn't tried anything in it yet.. only a few weeks into using linux for a desktop machine so thanks for your patience
[09:47] <xipietotec> pi__: ubuntuguide.org
[09:47] <nzbb> I am trying to make install but I get a slew of errors, is there a package of linux-headers I can get, or do I have to get each one seprately? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1031/
[09:47] <talisein> nhamilton: No problem, thanks for your patience with finding solutions =)
[09:48] <n2diy> nzbb: did you istall build-essentials?
[09:48] <dabaR> pi__: to install pure-ftpd, and pureadmin, open a terminal and type sudo aptitude install pure-ftpd pureadmin, press enter. voila.
[09:48] <nzbb> n2diy: guess not
[09:48] <IntuitiveNipple> Has anyone dealt with the issue of firestarter rules preventing synce/multisync from symchronising with a PDA ?
[09:48] <n2diy> nzbb: what about gcc? you'll need them both.
[09:48] <pi__> thanks dadaR, I have tried but
[09:48] <nhamilton> hehe... think nothing of it.
[09:48] <DarthLappy> n2diy: Doesn't build-essentials provide gcc?
[09:48] <nzbb> n2diy: will do, thanks
[09:48] <SilentDis> nzbb, looks like that script either needs bash, or, more likely, you don't have gcc and it's other build tools installed.  there should be a readme included with that make package, and it should say in there.
[09:49] <mwe> DarthLappy: yes
[09:49] <n2diy> DarthLappy: I don't think so, they are listed seperately in synaptic, if IRC?
[09:49] <mwe> n2diy: it does
[09:49] <DarthLappy> mwe: Ya, thought so.
[09:50] <dabaR> pi__: You need to enable universe.
[09:50] <dabaR> !universe > pi__
[09:50] <mwe> n2diy: several packages that are listed seperately are also included in meta packages as in the case of build-essential
[09:50] <pi__> yes
[09:50] <pi__> I've installed both
[09:50] <xipietotec> that allways reads so cruel to me !universe is greater than Xxxx
[09:50] <n2diy> mwe: DarthLappy, ok. I only DL stuff like that once, so it isn't fresh in my mind. No harm done.
[09:50] <pi__> but somethings wrong
[09:50] <SilentDis> side note of the night:  only a linux developer, when watching his child start to learn how to speak, would comment "On the one hand, shes really getting it. On the other, there still seems to be a missing parsing module." LMAO
[09:51] <xipietotec> as if calling them the most insignificant thing in the universe
[09:51] <talisein> nhamilton: whenever you get back to a console on that computer that you can use, take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and search for WW and EE to see what it complained about
[09:51] <mwe> n2diy: just installing gcc wont provide a working compile environment
[09:51] <pi__> and I would like to find an howto for a fine-tuning
[09:51] <n2diy> mwe, roger that.
[09:51] <FaithX> My notebook can only take 192MB ram and it is just not enough even to run XFCE4 with multiple apps open any more... swap just thrashes the drive
[09:51] <nhamilton> talisein: ah, thanks.. good idea.
[09:52] <mwe> FaithX: annoying
[09:52] <xipietotec> FaithX: install puppy on it
[09:52] <Jowi> FaithX, lower the cache value for Firefox is my first tip.
[09:52] <mwe> FaithX: does somthing like fluxbox make it more useful?
[09:52] <mneptok> FaithX: you could use one of the *super* lightweght WMs (e.g. Fluxbox)
[09:53] <FaithX> puppy... that's news
[09:53] <SilentDis> FaithX, i'd say either puppy or DSL might be a better choice, but 192 should be 'comfortable' for an xubuntu install... what apps are you running?
[09:53] <mwe> Jowi: isn't firefox cache the hdd cache?
[09:53] <talisein> FaithX: which apps are you trying to use? Try smaller apps like Abiword instead of openoffice
[09:53] <xipietotec> FaithX: puppy linux needs very little resources
[09:53] <FaithX> I'm running xubuntu installed from the iso
[09:53] <Jowi> mwe, it *should* be. but I notice a difference on my lower end machine strangely enough
[09:54] <mwe> Jowi: I see
[09:54] <FaithX> talisein: yes... but I need some of the functions of openoffice spreadsheet that gnumeric doesn't have.
[09:54] <nhamilton> talisein.. am i a bit dull today, or is does XChat for linux not have a user list for the channel?
[09:54] <mwe> FaithX: oo.org is a resource hog
[09:54] <talisein> nhamilton: drag your cursor to the right side of the window, there is probably a bar thing you can drag to the left that has it
[09:55] <Jowi> mwe, p1 166 with 128MB ram. it works. ummmm with rox/openbox as desktop that is
[09:55] <Jowi> :)
[09:55] <FaithX> Jowi: Does that apply for Mozilla I don't like Firefox for how the goole works
[09:55] <mwe> Jowi: heh
[09:55] <nhamilton> woooahhh... magic... i definitely already tried that before you mentioned it...  thanks ;)
[09:55] <Jowi> FaithX, I don't know. you can always try.
[09:56] <mwe> Jowi: isn't it great you can actually install a recent operating system on such a machine, though?
[09:56] <mwe> Jowi: try installing vista on it ;)
[09:56] <FaithX> If I have Mozilla, Thunderbird, Xchat and rdesktop open then swapping workspaces is a dog... I can watch the screen redraw.
[09:56] <mercer> asd
[09:56] <talisein> mozilla is huuuge
[09:56] <mwe> FaithX: yea
[09:57] <mwe> FaithX: mozilla and thunderbird use quite a lot of ram so don't open them at the same time
[09:57] <talisein> FaithX: If I were you I'd learn to use mutt for email
[09:57] <den_> ! drapper
[09:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:57] <den_> ! edegy
[09:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edegy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:57] <den_> ! drake
[09:57] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[09:58] <mwe> !msgthebot | den_
[09:58] <ubotu> den_: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[09:58] <FaithX> Yes I get the impression that some of our favourite open source apps are resource hungry.
[09:58] <Jowi> mwe, it is fantastic. I love this distro. Have it on my intel mac mini running beryl (replaced OSX). have it on a p1 133 just because I could (it's in the cellar now). my wife wanted it so I installed it on her laptop (she's been a linux user since Hoary now and loving it). Installed it for her dad that lives in another city because he was fed up with malware (God bless ssh for remote administration).
[09:58] <mwe> FaithX: compare it to windows programs, though
[09:58] <z9999> Could someone give some assistance in getting our printer to work again? It was working fine and all of a sudden it quit putting text on the page and only ejects a blank page after waiting a period of time. The printer works fine on another system and all we have done recently is apply recommended updates to Ubuntu 6.06.
[09:59] <FaithX> talisein: I have thought that... I installed it once... but I have so many html emails that it was a nusiance.
[09:59] <talisein> z9999: have you tried rebooting the machine that's running it?
[09:59] <mwe> Jowi: cool
[09:59] <SHRIKEE> can anyone explain to me why winbind doesnt work well?
[09:59] <FaithX> z9999: that app you are using probably is printing the wrong page size.
[10:00] <talisein> FaithX: there is a neat config option to render all the html tags off and keep the text formatting
[10:00] <FaithX> Oh ok... talisein... but what about pesky attachments?
[10:01] <FaithX> .doc .pdf .xls blah blah
[10:01] <z9999> We've rebooted several times, uninstalled the hpij drivers and reinstalled them but no help.
[10:01] <FaithX> z9999: you don't reboot linux boxes as a rule.
[10:01] <talisein> FaithX: v to view them, and then select them and hit s to save. do you get a lot of like, spreadsheet, attachements?
[10:02] <FaithX> talisein: unfortunately most of my clients are M$ numpties.
[10:02] <mwe> FaithX: If you lived closer to me I'd give you some RAM gratis. I'm about to throw a way an old computer ;)
[10:02] <SHRIKEE> can anyone explain to me why winbind doesnt work well? It worked fine untill i hooked my laptop to another network yesterday, now im back home and winbind doesnt work anymore
[10:02] <n2diy> z9999: have you tried stopping, and then starting cups?
[10:02] <z9999> FaithX: We are using a notebook and travel so it makes sense to reboot often under the circumstances.
[10:02] <FaithX> mwe: My noteboot maxes out at 192MB it is a P3M-700
[10:03] <talisein> FaithX: i guess that would get annoying. If you write to the mutt-users email list someone could probably whip up a one-key stroke that would automatically open it in the appropriate application
[10:03] <mwe> FaithX: Oh. then it wouldn't help anyway
[10:04] <FaithX> talisein: I am an IMAP junky too... and I have sever GB of historical junk
[10:04] <FaithX> mwe: thanks for the kind jesture though
[10:04] <inetDragon> http//lovein.by.ru/index.htm
[10:04] <talisein> FaithX: mutt does imap. but okay, I won't fight the MUA battle. Just close thunderbird when you're using mozilla or openoffice
[10:05] <FaithX> Yup...  :-/
[10:05] <fawaz> hi every body
[10:05] <talisein> FaithX: you might try and see if you can stick some more ram in your laptop
[10:05] <FaithX> Unfortunately noone has the time or resource to optimize code to run in 8MB anymore...
[10:06] <nhamilton> talisein: did you get those messages i sent?
[10:06] <mwe> talisein: mutt is somewhat annoying until you learn to use it properly, though ;)
[10:06] <talisein> FaithX: well, the OLPC people do. but they don't use openoffice.
[10:06] <fawaz> does any one know a good network simulator for Cisco ios devices
[10:06] <fawaz> ???????????????
[10:07] <FaithX> talisein: Maxed out at 192MB that's it no more... 64MB onboard 1 slot for 128MB more
[10:07] <FaithX> If a 256MB worked I would have had it long ago
[10:07] <talisein> FaithX: will it take 256 sticks?
[10:07] <talisein> FaithX: ok
[10:08] <nhamilton> anyone got any other suggestions how to get out of X when I can't see what's on my monitors? restarting is starting to become tedious....
[10:08] <FaithX> No... I just have the legacy... of "who could ever need more than 192MB ... and who can afford it anyway"  Remember when ram was $100/MB ?
[10:08] <nhamilton> although I can see a few pretty color ASCII symbols on the screens now... maybe I'm getting somewhere here talisein :)
[10:09] <talisein> nhamilton: hmm. try ctrl-alt-F2, then type your login user and pass, and then sudo killall xorg
[10:09] <FaithX> nhamilton: ctl+alt+bkspc
[10:09] <qiyong> does ubuntu support pxe install?
[10:09] <mwe> talisein: that's not a nice way to stop X
[10:09] <mwe> talisein: sudo /etc/init.d/?gdm stop should do it gracefully
[10:09] <talisein> mwe: he's asking for a way when ctrl-alt-backspace and ctrl-alt-f1 doesn't work
[10:09] <talisein> mwe: yeah, ok
[10:10] <nhamilton> i booted in single user mode.. does that mean f2 doesn't work? no joy for either of them
[10:10] <mwe> nhamilton: is it locked up?
[10:10] <FaithX> qiyong: I'm pretty sure it does...
[10:10] <nhamilton> no.. caps still works
[10:10] <mwe> nhamilton: hmm
[10:11] <FaithX> nhamilton: ssh from another box
[10:11] <talisein> yeah
[10:11] <dawkirst> !see SilentDis
[10:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about see SilentDis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:11] <mwe> nhamilton: it sounds suspicious that ctrl-alt-bs or ctrl-alt-f1 are not working, though
[10:12] <talisein> mwe: he's trying to get dual-head to work on intel drivers
[10:12] <nhamilton> there are a few moving ascii characters on the screen.. i'll try ssh'ing
[10:12] <mwe> talisein: oh. good luck to him ;)
[10:12] <talisein> nhamilton: try the reset command
[10:12] <FaithX> nhamilton: Oh... framebuffer is misconfigured??
[10:13] <talisein> nhamilton: its suppsoed to clear the screen and make the terminal readable
[10:13] <mwe> nhamilton: is it even supposed to work correctly with that driver?
[10:13] <talisein> nhamilton: theres an option on the manpage for it
[10:14] <juicyfish> Does anyone know the command to enable XMMS to play M4As?
[10:14] <qiyong> is ubiquity used in ubuntu?
[10:14] <FaithX> Maybe I should bight the bullet and buy a core Duo Notebook with 2GB ram and run Xen.
[10:15] <nhamilton> hmm.. can't ssh in because i was in single user mode and then ran x
[10:15] <talisein> FaithX: you want Xen to run windows in or what?
[10:16] <FaithX> talisein: oh that (unfortunately) but also for dev work and checking out distros etc.
[10:16] <mwe> FaithX: buy a core 2 duo if you can affort it
[10:16] <talisein> FaithX: ah. well, core duo would let you use KVM instead, and it seems like its getting more support from kernel devs
[10:16] <nhamilton> mwe: i believe that it is the right driver..  intel 945G chip, with the i810 driver.. was working okay til i tried the dual screen
[10:17] <mwe> FaithX: it's supstansiously faster ;)
[10:17] <FaithX> talisein: it is still an emulator though and runs slower than Xen
[10:17] <mwe> nhamilton: but is dual head supposed to work with it?
[10:17] <FaithX> KVM faster than Xen ?
[10:17] <qiyong> is ubiquity used in ubuntu?
[10:17] <qiyong> !ubiquity
[10:17] <ubotu> ubiquity: Ubuntu live CD installer. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.5 (edgy), package size 1594 kB, installed size 6188 kB
[10:17] <Smotang> anyone have a vault.com gold membership?
[10:17] <kouran> i really ned help with getting dvds to work. mplayer, totem, vlc dont work. i have installed libdvdcss. i dont know what the problem could possibly be. please help
[10:18] <nhamilton> from what i understand from my research, and from what talisein believes
[10:18] <talisein> FaithX: I think its about the same. dunno for sure. Personally i set up my first xen server last week, but thats for web/file/mail
[10:18] <talisein> FaithX: there have been a lot of articles in the FOSS community about Xen this year though
[10:18] <ha[M] id> i can't login root to ubuntu ?
[10:18] <talisein> FaithX: read LWN for links
[10:18] <ha[M] id> help me
[10:18] <talisein> !sudo >ha[M] id
[10:18] <mwe> nhamilton: I see. I thought it wouldn't work
[10:19] <fawaz> hamed use the following sudo
[10:19] <den_> hi: How can i make out what release of ubuntu i am running . This is what proc/version shows me (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5))
[10:19] <talisein> den_: uname -a
[10:19] <FaithX> nhamilton: why are you booted single user?
[10:19] <jpjacobs> ha[M] id, no, the root account is disabled by default, and for good reasons (see /msg ubotu !sudo).
[10:19] <talisein> den_: err, nevermind, ignore that
[10:20] <talisein> den_: look at /etc/lsb-release
[10:20] <mcnaft> hi, I'm trying to get sound to work... I installed alsa-utils, and ran dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base and chose alsa...then what?
[10:20] <mwe> talisein: why not use type lsb_release -a?
[10:20] <nhamilton> so i could edit my xorg file without it starting X
[10:20] <talisein> mwe: because I didn't know about that command :)
[10:20] <mwe> talisein: ;)
[10:21] <den_> talisein:  thanks what does lsb stand for ?
[10:21] <talisein> mwe: linux standard base
[10:21] <ha[M] id> never login in root !?
[10:21] <talisein> i think
[10:21] <FaithX> nhamilton: ... um... but you make life difficult for yourself not having vts running
[10:21] <den_> thanks again
[10:21] <fawaz> yes hamed for security purposes
[10:21] <fawaz> just use ur limited accout
[10:22] <fawaz> and for any privalge requirements use sudo [command] 
[10:22] <talisein> nhamilton: after you're done fixing your files in single mode, hit ^D to continue booting
[10:22] <FaithX> I've never setup X that way.
[10:23] <ha[M] id> but unkown /failed my graphic
[10:23] <talisein> FaithX: he's trying to fix X, because booting normally would have him repeatidly freeze up
[10:24] <FaithX> talisein: nhamilton eewww! hardware module kernel crash...
[10:24] <talisein> yeah whatever its doing isn't good
[10:24] <ha[M] id> thanks bye
[10:25] <talisein> bye
[10:25] <jpjacobs> ha[M] id, if you really really need to do lots of things as root you can use sudo su
[10:25] <jpjacobs> darn...
[10:25] <talisein> jpjacobs: i think the "right" thing to do is "sudo -i"
[10:25] <mwe> jpjacobs: sudo -i is the preffered way to get a root shell
[10:26] <FaithX> nhamilton: what chipset have you got (it is onboard I am assuming).
[10:26] <nhamilton> (945G)
[10:26] <FaithX> and you want dual screen?
[10:26] <talisein> nhamilton: what, 945? I thought you said 845
[10:26] <talisein> nhamilton: either way I think its the same though.......
[10:27] <talisein> FaithX: yes, he wants CRT and flat panel out
[10:27] <kouran> i got mplayer to play a dvd. how do i get vlc to do it too?
[10:27] <FaithX> nhamilton: start by specifying a particular amout of memory like 16MB
[10:27] <FaithX> nhamilton: in xorg.conf
[10:28] <jpjacobs> talisein, ow, never saw that before :)
[10:29] <mneptok> nhamilton: what are you trying to do?
[10:29] <talisein> jpjacobs: its okay. anytime I open my mouth on this channel I'm always told a better way to do something. ;)
[10:30] <mneptok> talisein: "any time" is a better way to spell that ;) :P
[10:30] <emss> 6.10 has lots of bugs
[10:30] <Jowi> nhamilton, yes. i810 for 945G
[10:30] <emss> well I have noticed many minor ones
[10:30] <talisein> mneptok: ;p
[10:30] <Jowi> nhamilton, it is correct
[10:30] <talisein> emss: please report them!
[10:31] <FaithX> nhamilton: you need to read this http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2006-December/020611.html
[10:31] <mwe> heh. appearently wireless AC power transfer is now possible
[10:31] <nhamilton> mneptok: i'm trying to set up dualhead on a 945G with DVI and VGA
[10:31] <FaithX> nhamilton: what you are after is not there yet!!! (easily)
[10:31] <||arifaX> nhamilton: did not follow your conversation. do you need a xorg.conf for dualscreen with 945g on a notebook? I can pastebin one if you like
[10:32] <talisein> ||arifaX: he's on a desktop, but that would still be better help then we've had so far I think :)
[10:32] <mneptok> nhamilton: have you run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" ?
[10:32] <talisein> emss: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/edgy/+bugs
[10:33] <IR3996> nas dias
[10:33] <Jowi> nhamilton, did you specify the "Option MonitorLayout" in xorg.conf? I have an LCD monitor connected with DVItoVGA adaptor and it only work if I set MonitorLayout to "CRT"
[10:33] <||arifaX> nhamilton: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1034/
[10:33] <IR3996> alguien usa algun servidor de correo bajo debian o ubuntu?
[10:33] <mneptok> !es > IR3996
[10:34] <||arifaX> nhamilton: you have to correct minimum the "BusID		"PCI:0:2:1"" stuff
[10:34] <IR3996> [mneptok] 
[10:34] <IR3996> que usas?
[10:34] <FaithX> nhamilton: have you been here ? http://intellinuxgraphics.org/man.html
[10:34] <||arifaX> nhamilton: check with lspci
[10:34] <IR3996> postfix o exim4?
[10:34] <mneptok> !es | IR3996
[10:34] <ubotu> IR3996: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:34] <fleischwurst> http://www.jasonhawkexxx.com/psd/newpreview/images/tour1_29.jpg yummy...
[10:34] <nhamilton> (sorry, i'm on the phone)
[10:35] <fokuslee> !torrent
[10:35] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[10:35] <mneptok> fleischwurst: stop that
[10:35] <fleischwurst> whats wrong with that, mneptok?
[10:35] <fleischwurst> :))
[10:35] <IR3996> [mneptok]  what is your server mail?
[10:36] <mneptok> IR3996: Postfix at home, Exim on a hosting box i admin, sendmail at the office.
[10:36] <IR3996> what is the most easy for install?
[10:37] <mneptok> IR3996: exim seems to be easiest fyor new users, in my experience
[10:38] <IR3996> i have a problem at login users
[10:38] <IR3996> the message is unknown user or invalid password
[10:38] <IR3996> and i dont know.....
[10:38] <Math^> is there some way to play flash 8+ files?
[10:38] <jpjacobs> IR3996, mind user and pass are case_sensitive_
[10:39] <IntuitiveNipple> Math^: Flash 9 beta player is available
[10:39] <talisein> Math^: there is a beta flash plugin
[10:39] <mneptok> IR3996: Exim/Postfix/Sendmail transport mail only. they do not act as POP/IMAP servers.
[10:39] <IR3996> courier-imap i use
[10:39] <Math^> cool!
[10:39] <talisein> Math^: google for penguin.swf
[10:39] <IntuitiveNipple> Math^: http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/
[10:40] <mneptok> IR3996: then you need to fix courier ;)
[10:40] <fokuslee> uh how do i configure the torrent client inside ubuntu?
[10:40] <IR3996> who=?
[10:40] <IntuitiveNipple> Its also available in the ubuntu repositories via Synaptic
[10:40] <incorrect> are there docs on how to backport?
[10:40] <talisein> fokuslee: what do you mean? :)
[10:40] <fokuslee> talisein well like the normal stuff like up and download limit
[10:41] <fokuslee> talisein:  and also port to open
[10:41] <talisein> fokuslee: depends on which client you are using.
[10:41] <fokuslee> talisein the one that came with ubuntu
[10:41] <IntuitiveNipple> Math^: In Synaptic, enable the multiverse repository, then search for "flashplugin-nonfree"
[10:41] <fokuslee> talisein:  by default
[10:41] <mneptok> fokuslee: do yourself a favor and "sudo aptitude install bittornado-gui"
[10:41] <talisein> fokuslee: hmm I thought there is a slider at the top that governs the down limit
[10:41] <mneptok> fokuslee: BitTornado > BitTorrent
[10:41] <fokuslee> mneptok:  yeah i no i use to use it on windows
[10:42] <fokuslee> ok i will save myself somework by installing a gui
[10:42] <fokuslee> Thx guys
[10:42] <mneptok> fokuslee: run that cowwand and all will be made clear :)
[10:42] <talisein> fokuslee: as for opening ports, the client opens the ports automatically. if you are having trouble with ports, you need to configure your router
[10:42] <Math^> IntuitiveNipple, ok
[10:42] <mneptok> *command
[10:42] <IntuitiveNipple> Has anyone dealt with the issue of firestarter rules preventing synce/multisync from symchronising with a PDA ?
[10:43] <fokuslee> talisein: so i don't need to do this? sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 6881 -j ACCEPT
[10:43] <tux> hi how can i block an ip address from viewing ?
[10:43] <tux> i mean blocking some sites
[10:43] <talisein> fokuslee: no, not unless you have non-default firewall setup
[10:43] <tux> how can i block some sites?
[10:44] <mneptok> tux: what site?
[10:44] <jhaig> tux: I guess you mean web sites.  Look up squid and squid-guard
[10:44] <fokuslee> talisein ok thx a bunch im gonna try it tomorrow nite nite guys
[10:44] <talisein> tux: lots of ways. Most simple is editing /etc/hosts and routing the bad ip to localhost
[10:44] <tux> mneptok, orkut
[10:44] <jhaig> tux: Or dansguardian
[10:44] <talisein> tux: but that gets tedious for doing more than once or twice
[10:45] <Tree> has anyone managed to install steam on there computer?
[10:45] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[10:46] <tux> jhaig, can u make it clear?
[10:46] <ademan> what are the common extensions for assembly files? *.asm , *.n?
[10:46] <talisein> Tree: I think you'll only manage that by using transgaming
[10:46] <Tree> transgaming??
[10:46] <mneptok> tux: sudo echo orkut.com    82.211.81.166 >> /etc/hosts
[10:47] <n2diy> I surf with this box, but I have a box in the basement, can a use a router and cable to share the connection with the box in the basement?
[10:47] <jhaig> tux: squid is a web proxy server and squidguard is an add-on for squid that filters web traffic.  Dansguardian is something similar.
[10:47] <Tree> where does wine store folder by the way??
[10:47] <talisein> Tree: they make Cedega, which is software you have to pay for, but it makes gaming work
[10:47] <freakabcd> hi all
[10:48] <jhaig> tux: but this might not be what you want.  For blocking individual sites, editing the /etc/hosts file is probably a better solution.
[10:48] <freakabcd> my usplash screen doesn;t show up properly :(
[10:48] <Tree> im also trying to find where wine stores its folders
[10:48] <freakabcd> i dist-upgraded from dapper to edgy
[10:48] <tux> jhaig, if i add an ip to /etc/hosts the will it be blocked?
[10:48] <talisein> freakabcd: that's the new splash screen, if you're tlaking about no text
[10:48] <freakabcd> everything is fine. just this usplash. i tried kubuntu theme also.. both show up wrong
[10:48] <mneptok> tux: see the command i gave you above
[10:48] <freakabcd> talisein, no it is not the _new_ usplash. its just got quiet as the default option.
[10:48] <nhamilton> faithX,||arifax,mneptok,Jowi: sorry, had to talk to my doctor... recently broke my leg.. long story ;)..
[10:49] <freakabcd> talisein, if you want remove the quiet and see the messages
[10:49] <Math^> can someone help me installing cedega?
[10:49] <mneptok> nhamilton: have you run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" ?
[10:49] <nhamilton> dpkg-reconfigure doesn't put anything in for the second monitor, which I found strange....
[10:49] <freakabcd> my 'ubuntu' or 'kubuntu' image shows up on the top right instead of the centre
[10:49] <jhaig> tux: Yes, see mneptoks comment.
[10:49] <tux> mneptok, thank u
[10:49] <mwe> freakabcd: I see odd (missing) line breaks in the late boot process disabling quite
[10:49] <nhamilton> i had both monitors running, displaying the same desktop, and then i put in the MonitorLayout option which broke X
[10:50] <talisein> Math^: cedega forums are a better place. they should have a howto for debian-based distros
[10:50] <freakabcd> mwe, i don;t see that problem.
[10:50] <mwe> freakabcd: hmm. I'm glad it's just here then
[10:50] <Math^> talisein, ok, u know a good forum?
[10:50] <talisein> Math^: transgaming.com
[10:50] <freakabcd> its just somehow the usplash is messed up on mine. its on the top right hand corner and all different kernel modes i have tried vga=xxx but still never gets to the centre :(
[10:50] <nhamilton> lspci shows 0:2:0 and 0:2:1
[10:50] <Math^> oh, ofcourse :)
[10:51] <Math^> Taladan, thnx
[10:51] <Math^> talisein,
[10:51] <Math^> lol :P
[10:51] <talisein> np
[10:51] <n2diy> I surf with this box, but I have a box in the basement, can a use a router and cable to share the connection with the box in the basement?
[10:51] <talisein> freakabcd: hmm, mine has been offcenter too.
[10:51] <nhamilton> mneptok: yes, that only generages an xorg file with a single monitor configured
[10:51] <jhaig> n2diy: With a switch or a hub rather than a router, but yes.
[10:51] <talisein> nhamilton: did you try the "CRT,DFP" instead of "CRT+DFP" ?
[10:52] <Mba7eth> u
[10:52] <n2diy> jhaig, I can't use my router?
[10:52] <nhamilton> yes...
[10:52] <freakabcd> talisein, wth!
[10:52] <freakabcd> it just worked properly!
[10:52] <freakabcd> i cannot believe this. lemme try rebooting
[10:53] <talisein> freakabcd: i don't question these things. are you on an ATI video card?
[10:53] <jhaig> n2diy: Well, your router is probably a switch as well as a router.  They generally are, but technically there is a difference.
[10:53] <freakabcd> no..
[10:53] <freakabcd> intel 855gm onboard laptop
[10:53] <talisein> nhamilton: try "DFP,CRT"
[10:53] <freakabcd> never had a problem with dapper
[10:53] <freakabcd> ever
[10:53] <talisein> nhamilton: sorry if it makes you reboot
[10:53] <Mba7eth> guys i need a clearifation
[10:53] <jhaig> n2diy: How many ethernet sockets does it have?
[10:53] <nhamilton> yeah :)... the reboots are making this process a little painful
[10:53] <n2diy> jhaig, ok, let me give it a try, after getting ping and ssh working, whatt software should I be looking at?
[10:54] <Mba7eth> guys i need a clearification
[10:54] <freakabcd> talisein, grr.. its back to being offcentre..
[10:54] <n2diy> jhaig, four, plus one for a modem, which I'm not using.
[10:54] <nhamilton> having the CRT,DFP has given me the best so far - it shows graphics on my VGA and nothing on my DVI
[10:54] <freakabcd> i dunno what i did last time.. was just playing around.. did vga mode scan a few times and then it just suddenly worked
[10:54] <Mba7eth> Why once i connect to my wireless i can't see any other wlan thru the command iwlist eth1 scan
[10:54] <Mba7eth> ???????
[10:54] <talisein> freakabcd: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=291557
[10:55] <freakabcd> talisein, so it is off-centre for you too, correct?
[10:55] <talisein> freakabcd: looks like you need to edit /etc/usplash.conf
[10:55] <jhaig> n2diy: You are not using the one for the modem?  So is the internet access through a different router?
[10:55] <tux> mneptok, but it didnt worked out
[10:55] <nhamilton> i checked the xorg logs: it says there is "No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found
[10:55] <tux> jhaig, it didnt worked out
[10:55] <talisein> freakabcd: and change the respolution
[10:55] <n2diy> jhaig, I'm accessing the internet through my dialup modem on this box.
[10:55] <mneptok> tux: pastebin your hosts file?
[10:55] <Mba7eth> anyone knows why?
[10:56] <tux> its something related to ipv6 routing etc
[10:56] <freakabcd> talisein, i've already done that twice :)
[10:56] <talisein> Mba7eth: try iwlist wlan0 scan
[10:56] <n2diy> ! ipv6 | tux
[10:56] <ubotu> tux: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[10:56] <tux> in the host file ive >> orkut 82.211.81.166
[10:56] <talisein> Mba7eth: your wireless card isn't called eth0. It might be ath0 or.. uh, i forget what else. Something.
[10:57] <Mba7eth> i cant do that cuz eth1 is the interface for the wifi on my laptop
[10:57] <mneptok> tux: change that line to "orkut.com    82.211.81.166"
[10:57] <talisein> Mba7eth: really? huh. I'll bow out of this one.
[10:57] <Mba7eth> it is and i am connected thru it now
[10:57] <tux> mneptok, in the host file ive >> orkut.com 82.211.81.166
[10:57] <mneptok> tux: change that line to "orkut.com    82.211.81.166"
[10:57] <talisein> freakabcd: you did the update-initramfs -u?
[10:57] <tux> mneptok ok
[10:58] <Mba7eth> eth1      IEEE 802.11b  ESSID:"kochotspot"  Nickname:"kochotspot"
[10:58] <Mba7eth> this is what i got from iwconfig
[10:58] <freakabcd> talisein, err.. ofcourse you have to do it everytime you change the conf file
[10:58] <Mba7eth> ofcourse it is the first line only
[10:58] <talisein> freakabcd: just checking
[10:58] <jhaig> n2diy: I cannot remember exactly the details, but what you want is "ip forwarding".  I'm trying to look it up now ...
[10:59] <tux> mneptok, i think this specific site is using many ips will it block all?
[10:59] <n2diy> jhaig, roger that.
[10:59] <talisein> its 2am, so I don't htink I can help anyone. sorry all ;)
[11:00] <n2diy> jhaig, I was hoping I could do it with VNC?
[11:00] <jhaig> n2diy: What is running on the two machines?
[11:00] <Mba7eth> talisein did you figure out why ?
[11:00] <jhaig> n2diy: OSs.
[11:00] <n2diy> jhaig, Ubuntu 6.06 on both of them.
[11:01] <Math^> is there some way to set a default multimedia player in firefox 2.0 ?
[11:01] <tux> mneptok, but it didnt do the trick
[11:01] <tux> jhaig, im afraid it didnt help
[11:01] <jhaig> n2diy: Well, you could use ssh instead of vnc.  ;-)  But anyway, you shouldn't need to do that.
[11:01] <mneptok> tux: it will make orkut.com redirect to ubuntu.com. you may need to add www.orkut.com, too
[11:02] <jhaig> tux: Look up adblock for firefox (if you are using firefox).  That will allow you to block pages by name rather than ip address.
[11:02] <jhaig> n2diy: When you have connected the machines, try pinging each other.
[11:03] <nhamilton> based on this url (http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2006-December/020611.html), does that mean that the i810 driver doesnt support dual head with DVI/VGA?
[11:03] <n2diy> jhaig,yes, I know how to do that, I was looking for the next step to pursue.
[11:03] <Math^> ah, I think I have found it
[11:03] <nhamilton> i'm not trying to get xinerma setup; two seperate desktops is fine...
[11:04] <Mba7eth> ls
[11:04] <cmiuc007> Hi can someone tell me how to mount a partition at startup?
[11:04] <jhaig> n2diy: Well, the next step is "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward", but I don't know if that is all you need to do.
[11:04] <tux> mneptok, still it didnt help. is the quotes required?
[11:04] <tux> mneptok, "www.orkut.com 82......"?
[11:04] <mneptok> tux: definitely not
[11:05] <mneptok> tux: a reboot may be required
[11:05] <n2diy> jhaig, roger that, let me set up the network and give it a try, thanks.
[11:05] <adaptr> tux: are you talking about /etc/hosts ?
[11:05] <tux> adaptr, yes
[11:05] <adaptr> tux: IP address first, hostname second
[11:05] <tux> adaptr, are you sure?
[11:05] <incorrect> i am following the backport howto using prevu,  when running prevu gdebi i get an error message of hostname unknown then the script bails out
[11:05] <adaptr> tux: like every other entry in that file, yes
[11:06] <tux> adaptr, want to redirect to some other page
[11:06] <tux> adaptr, but i dodnt have any other entry
[11:06] <jhaig> n2diy: That command will set ip forwarding up once only, but if it works there is a way to do it each time at bootup.
[11:06] <adaptr> tux: you cannot do that based on the hostname; you have to use an IP
[11:06] <adaptr> tux: if /etc/hosts does not have any entries then something is broken
[11:07] <tux> adaptr, ive got some entries with ipv6 dats all
[11:08] <adaptr> tux: well, thjat's weird - it should always have the localhost address as its first entry
[11:08] <adaptr> tux: wait - do you have avahi running ?
[11:09] <mwe> tux: you probably need to fix that
[11:09] <adaptr> tux: add this as the first line of the file : 127.0.0.1 localhost
[11:09] <mwe> tux: you want 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost in the first line
[11:09] <adaptr> no! me ! me ! meeeee
[11:10] <adaptr> heh
[11:10] <cmiuc007> Hi can someone tell me how to mount a partition at startup?
[11:10] <adaptr> cmiuc007: add it to /etc/fstab
[11:10] <IntuitiveNipple> In Edgy Nautilus, where is the "Scripts" option in the right-click context menu for files as described in the docs at  https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/ch12s02.html
[11:11] <cmiuc007> adaptr ty oh k can u tell me if this format is right? /dev/hda4 	/media/opensuse	ext3	defaults	0	0 ( I am not sure abt the zeros)
[11:12] <jhaig> n2diy: You still there?  I found this, which you may find useful: http://www.ducea.com/2006/08/01/how-to-enable-ip-forwarding-in-linux/
[11:12] <adaptr> cmiuc007: there must be at least one space between all components, otherwise it looks okay
[11:12] <n2diy> jhaig, roger, thanks.
[11:13] <adaptr> cmiuc007: it's easy to check though - save /etc/fstab and run "sudo mount /dev/hda4"
[11:13] <cmiuc007> adaptr what are the zeroes for?
[11:14] <adaptr> cmiuc007: they have to do with filesystem checking at boot and arcane backups - man fstab, man mount, but the only one you might ever want to set is the first one, for fschecking
[11:14] <Bips> after upgrading to kernel 2.6.19 my IDE devices are detected as /dev/sdx. how can i make the kernel recognise it as /dev/hdx?
[11:15] <mwe> Bips: how did you upgrade? what you describe sound very unusual
[11:15] <adaptr> cmiuc007: set it to a value larger than the root partition has, as the value indicates the order in which partitions are checked
[11:15] <cmiuc007> adaptr: so setting them to 0 is good enough?
[11:15] <tux> mwe, is a reboot required?
[11:15] <adaptr> cmiuc007: well, setting the fscheck to 0 means it won't be checked on boot
[11:15] <tux> adaptr, is a reboot required?
[11:15] <adaptr> tux: for what ?
[11:16] <nhamilton> does "No matching device section for instance PCI:0:2:1) found mean anything to anyone?
[11:16] <adaptr> nhamilton: context ?
[11:16] <cmiuc007> adaptr: what do u suggest I put there?
[11:16] <Bips> mwe: i recompiled the latest kernel using the config of 2.6.18.. am i missing some thing?
[11:16] <tux> adaptr, ive got the original file as /etc/hosts and ive added >> www.mysite.com 82.168.99...
[11:16] <nhamilton> my dual head monitor problem.. i810 driver, intel 945 graphics card
[11:16] <mwe> Bips: It sounds like a misconfigured kernel
[11:16] <hexidigital> the beryl support channel is #beryl, correct?
[11:16] <tux> adaptr,is a reboot required for redirection?
[11:17] <mwe> Bips: did you 'make oldconfig'?
[11:17] <adaptr> cmiuc007: well, look through the rest of the file - the root partition is set to 1 and the others are set to 2 - so either set yours to 2 or higher, like 3
[11:17] <adaptr> tux: let me list the reasons you must reboot a Linux box: 1. a kernel upgrade, 2. a kernel panic
[11:17] <adaptr> cmiuc007: bTW it's the second o, but the file has comments to indicate this
[11:18] <mneptok> hexidigital: correct. but that channel is rendering oddly this week.
[11:18] <Bips> mwe: no
[11:18] <nhamilton> it is also interesting that the xorg log says that there is only the CRT active on Pipe A and nothing on Pipe B
[11:18] <tux> adaptr, ok den ill try dis way
[11:18] <mneptok> *rimshot*
[11:18] <hexidigital> mneptok::  ah, ok.. thanks
[11:18] <mwe> Bips: what exactly did you do?
[11:18] <cmiuc007> adaptr: all my partitions have "0 0"
[11:18] <adaptr> cmiuc007: they do ? what version are you running ? they should not
[11:18] <cmiuc007> adaptr, version?
[11:18] <mwe> cmiuc007: you want 1 in the last field for / at least
[11:19] <adaptr> cmiuc007: run "uname -a"
[11:19] <mneptok> adaptr: those aren't the only 2 reasons, though ;)
[11:19] <mwe> cmiuc007: not fscking the root partition is not a good idea
[11:19] <adaptr> mneptok: list a third
[11:19] <masura> where to get some volume boost?
[11:19] <mneptok> adaptr: BIOS update
[11:19] <adaptr> mneptok: impossible from within Linux, so totally irrelevant
[11:20] <Bips> mwe: as i told you before i used the config of previous version and made few more changes for the latest ie. added few stat drivers
[11:20] <mneptok> adaptr: uhhhh ...
[11:20] <mwe> Bips: you didn't tell me how you did it
[11:20] <mwe> Bips: did you just copy the .config then make?
[11:20] <cmiuc007> adaptr, mwe:Linux 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 18:45:35 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux (this is a clean install so the updaes have been applied but not yet reebotted)
[11:20] <adaptr> mneptok: and as you surely understand I listed reasons why *Linux* would have to be rebooted, as in: reasons from within Linux, not outside influences, of which there may be many more
[11:21] <mneptok> adaptr: i know of a few mobos that allow updating of firmware through Linux. not to mention Linux-based BIOS firmware.
[11:21] <mwe> cmiuc007: odd. the root partition should be fscked at regular intervals
[11:21] <adaptr> mneptok: sure, whatever - still totally irrelevant to my point, unless you enjoy flashing BIOSes every week ?
[11:21] <kuzmaster> hello
[11:21] <Bips> mwe: exactly
[11:21] <cmiuc007> mwe, adaptr: Also I dont have a "/" this is a 3 boot system windows, ubuntu and suse
[11:22] <adaptr> cmiuc007: you are probably not reading the file correctly; pastebin the contents
[11:22] <mwe> Bips: go over make menuconfig again. I'm sure something is missing/misconfigured
[11:22] <mneptok> adaptr: you asked for a third reason. there you go. :)
[11:22] <adaptr> mneptok: bleh
[11:22] <Enverex> Hmm, why is Ubuntu still on the broken nVidia 8xxx series drivers? I would have thought it'd make sense to update to the 9741 drivers (which aren't broken)
[11:22] <mwe> Bips: what kind of hdd is it? pata/sata?
[11:22] <adaptr> mneptok: four: your little sister ripping out the power cord to blowdry her hair
[11:23] <adaptr> mneptok: five: the power going down over your entire city
[11:23] <mneptok> adaptr: it's OK to speak hastily and then have to change your assertion. we're all glorified monkeys here. :)
[11:23] <adaptr> mneptok: six: a large asteroid crashing through your roof and impacting the machine
[11:23] <Bips> mwe: is an pata hdd
[11:23] <tux> mneptok, where can i find adblock in firefox?
[11:23] <adaptr> mneptok: I can go on listing "reasons", but they're all either silly or irrelevant
[11:23] <z9999> Our printer ceased sending text to the page, the printer works fine on another system so we suspect we have corrupted something. Using Ubuntu 6.06, and have uninstalled and re-installed the drivers, but are still unable to print text. A blank page is ejected after a wait. Any help would be appreciated.
[11:24] <mneptok> tux: it's an extension
[11:24] <mneptok> tux: sec
[11:24] <mwe> Bips: then something is certainly misconfigured/missing or not loaded
[11:24] <nhamilton> anyone got any ideas or directions to point me in for my xorg conf?... this shit works on my code-monkey's  duplicate-hardware windows machine :( :(
[11:24] <adaptr> z9999: does the printer have any kind of self-diagnosis ?
[11:24] <cmiuc007> mwe, adaptr: http://pastebin.com/855799
[11:24] <adaptr> nhamilton: again, what is the issue ?
[11:25] <cmiuc007> mwe, adaptr: lol I see a one for hda2 (windows)
[11:25] <mneptok> tux: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1865/
[11:25] <z9999> adaptr: The printer is fine as we tested it on another system.
[11:25] <mwe> cmiuc007: your root partition does have 1 in the last field
[11:25] <adaptr> cmiuc007: /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[11:25] <adaptr> cmiuc007: the last line is also fine - now do what I told you to
[11:25] <mwe> cmiuc007: line 6
[11:26] <adaptr> z9999: how did yo uinstall it, what kind of printer is it, what does the cups error log say, etc etc etc
[11:26] <cmiuc007> mwe, adaptr: i just noticed after I pasted sorry so what should I put in for the suse line?
[11:26] <Bips> mwe: i've read somewhere that few ide drivers have been upgraded which creates this problem. is there any way to use the old ide drivers?
[11:26] <adaptr> cmiuc007: use "0 2"
[11:26] <nhamilton> adaptr: in summary, I've got a desktop machine with an intel 945G graphics chip, with DVI and VGA output, plugged into two LCD screens, and I'm unable to get dual-head working.
[11:26] <cmiuc007> mwe, adaptr: and to mount ubuntu in suse use 0 3?
[11:26] <adaptr> Bips: by recompiling your own kernel :)
[11:26] <mwe> Bips: hmm. you probably need to revert that particular patch then. might be hard to locate
[11:27] <adaptr> cmiuc007: same there, obviously
[11:27] <z9999> adaptr: We installed, removed, and re-installed using the synaptic package manager. It's an HP-656C inkjet printer.
[11:27] <mwe> Bips: where did you read it? it sounds like a pretty bad bug to me
[11:27] <adaptr> nhamilton: and what does xorg say about supporting two screens for that chipset ?
[11:27] <adaptr> z9999: installed what > how ?
[11:27] <tux>  mneptok, im afraid im not getting that site
[11:27] <cmiuc007> mwe, adaptr: does the number increase as you add more partitions or more OS'es?
[11:28] <adaptr> z9999: by "installed" one menas: USB, parallel, or Ethernet ?
[11:28] <nhamilton> adaptr: from what I understand from reading the intelllinux graphics page it does
[11:28] <adaptr> cmiuc007: no, as I said, it is the order in which they are checked
[11:28] <mwe> cmiuc007: what number? the one in the last field?
[11:28] <cmiuc007> mwe yeah the last field
[11:28] <halorgium> hurro there
[11:28] <tux> mneptok, i still cant get that site
[11:29] <adaptr> cmiuc007: so you always want a 1 for the root partition, and can use 2 for all others; IF the system supports running multiple checks in parallel then it will do so, else it will just check them one at a time
[11:29] <mwe> cmiuc007: it should be either root should be 1 other file systems 2
[11:29] <mena> What Is the best space Of partitin For ubuntu Installation Partition
[11:29] <nhamilton> adaptr: actually i've found nowhere that confirms or denies it... .
[11:29] <adaptr> mwe: careful with the "should" there :)
[11:29] <nhamilton> but from what i read the i810 driver supports dual head
[11:29] <halorgium> i'm wanting to compile my own kernel but use the existing default config, how am i best to do that?
[11:30] <adaptr> nhamilton: yes, but i945 != i810, or so I would think
[11:30] <mwe> cmiuc007: asuming you want a check. if you don't it should be 0
[11:30] <freakabcd> nhamilton, hell yeah it supports dualhead
[11:30] <freakabcd> i _am_ running dualhead with it!
[11:30] <adaptr> halorgium: copy the current kernel's config to the source dir, start a make and load the config
[11:30] <nhamilton> i810 runs 945G, no?
[11:30] <cmiuc007> mwe, adaptr I dont see what the check does
[11:31] <halorgium> adaptr: should i attempt to use kernel-package like i have done with debian in the past, or should i just install it?
[11:31] <freakabcd> nhamilton, i believe it does. not sure though. lemme check man page
[11:31] <nhamilton> ||arifaX posted his xorg conf that showed it working with 945G
[11:31] <mwe> cmiuc007: it runs fsck at boot for the file system if a certaion time period or mount count is reached
[11:31] <nhamilton> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1034/
[11:31] <z9999> adaptr: We installed, using the package manager, hpijs and hplip drivers, and initially the printer worked fine. Recently it ceased to print on the page, but ejects a page after an amount of time equivilent to having printed the text. All we have done is allowed all the updates recommended be applied, none of which we can attribute to the printer.
[11:31] <cmiuc007> mwe, adaptr thanks for the help
[11:31] <freakabcd> nhamilton, i810 supports everything (exaggeration) :)
[11:31] <mwe> cmiuc007: yw
[11:32] <mena> Friends What Is the recomend space for the file system patition for ubuntu
[11:32] <freakabcd> ... 915G, 915GM, 954G, 945GM, 965G, 965Q, 946GZ
[11:32] <mneptok> mena: minimum 5GB for /
[11:32] <anachronox> hey
[11:32] <mwe> freakabcd: add 855GM to the list ;)
[11:32] <mena> mneptok, okay
[11:32] <freakabcd> mwe, err.. these are the higher end models..
[11:32] <mneptok> mena: *very* minimum
[11:33] <nhamilton> yeah....
[11:33] <anachronox> has anyone got xen working on ubuntu?
[11:33] <freakabcd> 855gm (my model) is included int he ellipsis ... :)
[11:33] <mwe> freakabcd: yeah ;)
[11:33] <mena> mneptok, okay .....bec i want to install xp and ubuntu on 80 giga hard disk
[11:33] <mwe> freakabcd: my bad. it wont happen again ;)
[11:34] <freakabcd> mwe, i love beryl on my 855gm. just a bit slow on few things.
[11:34] <nhamilton> freakabcd: so how do i get the config right so it shows the two monitors?
[11:34] <mena> mneptokm, What Do you recomened for both
[11:34] <freakabcd> i just wish i could allocate more that crappy 64 meg to the card.
[11:34] <nhamilton> freakabcd: and is it a problem that the xorg log doesnt show the second LCD on either Pipe?
[11:34] <mwe> freakabcd: it's great. it eats my battery life though
[11:34] <freakabcd> nhamilton, would it be possible to post your xorg.conf somewhere?
[11:34] <mneptok> mena: i would make:  | 10GB Linux / | 15GB Windows C: | 1GB Linux swap | the rest as ext3 Linux /home
[11:34] <freakabcd> mwe, haha.. doesn;t eat much for me :)
[11:35] <adaptr> z9999: and you did not configure cups at all ?
[11:35] <mena> mneptok, okay thanks for you openion i think i will do by iyt
[11:35] <mena> it
[11:35] <mwe> freakabcd: great. I think the battery life is about half with beryl enabled for me :(
[11:36] <freakabcd> nhamilton, my lappy isn;t on the net now. so i can't upload my xorg.conf now. but i can have a look at yours and tell you is something doesn;t look rigfht(to my eyes)
[11:36] <nhamilton> freakabcd: ok, i'll try and get it accross
[11:36] <z9999> adaptr: Where do you configure cups?
[11:36] <nhamilton> freakabcd: thanks.. its a desktop tho.. not that it probably makes much difference
[11:36] <freakabcd> nhamilton, no problems. it should work either way
[11:36] <adaptr> z9999: well, it is the printing system used in ubuntu, so the menu's printer setup does some of it
[11:36] <floodman> Hi, does anyone know how can I force some application to use specific network interface to reach the internet. I'm talking about dumb application that dont have config file to set interface they will use.
[11:37] <nhamilton> freakabcd: good to hear that it should at least work :)
[11:37] <floodman> I have multiple interfaces and would like to manually balance load among them.
[11:37] <d34l3r> hi all
[11:37] <adaptr> floodman: if it's that dumb then you probably can't
[11:38] <floodman> I was thinking about making script to change default gateway before app is started, but that would probably work only for single connection.
[11:38] <adaptr> floodman: it might not even work at all - since you have no control over the interface chosen, what difference would the gateway make ?
[11:38] <app> How is Wimax support in Linux/Ubuntu? BTW, do you know a good book about Wimax?
[11:38] <adaptr> that's where it starts and - usually - ends: basic control over networking from within the application
[11:39] <floodman> I was kinda hoping it would direct application to establish link over that gateway ...
[11:39] <adaptr> floodman: are the interfaces on the same subnet ?
[11:39] <nhamilton> freakabcd: try this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1039/
[11:39] <halorgium> you can do iptables marking and then RPDB rules to use a different route table
[11:39] <floodman> adaptr: No.
[11:39] <floodman> adaptr: Separate ISP's.
[11:40] <adaptr> floodman: then yes, you *can* force it to use an interface by setting a gateway - unless both interfaces can reach both gateways, in which case it won't work
[11:40] <rebeca> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[11:40] <halorgium> floodman: on one box, i have a particular user which makes connections out through a different ip address and gateway
[11:40] <floodman> floodman: But the real question here is will that application remember the gateway it started with or does it always take *current* one when start new connection.
[11:40] <adaptr> floodman: way simpler to use two boxes and do routing somewhere else, where it is independent of that application
[11:41] <Enverex> Does anyone know where Thunderbird stores its preferences/addressbook?
[11:41] <adaptr> floodman: simple to check: rip out the gateway and see if it connects at all; if it does, then it detected the change
[11:41] <floodman> adaptr: I'm aware of that, but I'm sure that you are aware that bosses always have better solution. For my boss single box is cheaper than two boxes. :)
[11:41] <adaptr> floodman: then explain to him that it is not possible on one box
[11:42] <halorgium> adaptr: the routes will be cached
[11:42] <freakabcd> nhamilton, the second device should use the same pci device id iirc
[11:42] <z9999> adaptr: Very few settings are available there, but what exists appears to be set properly. And the printer worked fine prior to applying the recommended Ubuntu updates, which  there were many, but nothing we noticed associated with the printer.
[11:42] <tux> adaptr, how to block access to a site which has varied ips?
[11:42] <adaptr> floodman: unless he is willing to pay for developing the dumb app to a smarter app
[11:42] <halorgium> adaptr:  ip ro list table cache
[11:42] <floodman> adaptr: Rgr. Will try and hope it works. Otherwise I'll have to install VMware and create two virtual boxes.
[11:42] <freakabcd> nhamilton, because there is only 1 device. so use PCI:0:2:0 for the second one also
[11:42] <adaptr> tux: block access from where ?
[11:42] <nhamilton> yeah... i thought that might have been the case, and I had tried that before....
[11:42] <tux> adaptr, my system
[11:42] <adaptr> z9999: did you reboot after the updates ?
[11:42] <adaptr> tux: duh.. what *application*
[11:43] <freakabcd> nhamilton, chnage that one back first. lemme take a look at the rest of the stuff
[11:43] <tux> adaptr, dat is if i block it then that site shouldnt be reached
[11:43] <tux> adaptr, just a web site
[11:43] <jhaig> What CMS would people recommend with Ubuntu 6.10?  Using MySQL, preferably.
[11:43] <nhamilton> freakabcd: ok, ledend
[11:43] <nhamilton> *legend..
[11:44] <adaptr> tux: add it to the hosts file, and point it to 127.0.0.1
[11:44] <nhamilton> ignore the stuff about ATI etc.. thats old text.. .
[11:44] <halorgium> ip ro add blackhole $IP
[11:44] <nhamilton> freakabcd: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1034/ - example sent from one of the other guys has two devices configured...
[11:44] <nhamilton> with :0 and :1
[11:44] <tux> adaptr, if i add www.jjjj.com 127.0..... wil it do?
[11:44] <adaptr> tux: as I have said earlier - no, that will not work
[11:45] <adaptr> nhamilton: rather inefficient for a site with 200 IPs :)
[11:45] <tux> adaptr, so u mean a sing ip can be redirected. is that ?
[11:45] <freakabcd> nhamilton, also. don;t you need Option "Xinerama" "on"
[11:45] <freakabcd> nhamilton, in ServerLayout
[11:45] <adaptr> tux: what ?
[11:45] <z9999> adaptr: We've been working on this for over a week now and have rebooted numerous times.
[11:46] <adaptr> z9999: sorry to hear that... to investigate this further you'll likely have to dive into CUPS and hplip/hpiij configuration
[11:46] <adaptr> z9999: have you visited linuxprinting.org yet ?
[11:46] <tux> adaptr, what can i do to block a site named www.jjj.com which has a variety of ip addresses
[11:46] <n2diy_> I'm setting up a lan, and when I activate my eth0, I can't surf/connect with my modem?
[11:47] <tux> adaptr, to block means the access to the website should be cut
[11:47] <adaptr> tux: like I said, add 127.0.0.1 <domainname> to /etc/hosts
[11:47] <FaithX> what's a good featured browser that is lighter than mozilla?
[11:47] <adaptr> FaithX: firefox
[11:47] <z9999> adaptr: We'll give them a try.
[11:47] <freakabcd> firefox is teh shit with the xul crap
[11:48] <freakabcd> bah.. i don;t like it too much
[11:48] <Eysto> Hello
[11:48] <adaptr> z9999: I'd be glad to help, but HP printing is rather hmm.. difficult at times, even from Windows
[11:48] <adaptr> z9999: I do however, know CUPS and stuff, and the linuxprinting site should be able to help you out some
[11:48] <FaithX> z9999: you've been trying to get a printer working for a week?
[11:49] <z9999> FaithX: The printer had been working fine until about a week ago.
[11:49] <Li`lEndian> can anyone tell me what packages i'd need to setup something like a microsoft exchange server on ubuntu?
[11:50] <Enverex> adaptr, HP printing isn't hard...
[11:50] <Enverex> ever...
[11:50] <Eysto> I have a wifi connection, sudo iwconfig show me my essid, my wep key, so everything looks to be ok, but i can't access to the internet can someone help me please ?
[11:50] <n2diy_> Let me rephrase that, when I activate eth0, that becomes the default gateway, and the modem is ignored, how can I set the modem as the default gateway?
[11:50] <rebeca> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[11:50] <adaptr> Enverex: it wouldn't be if they supported decent standards, no
[11:50] <halorgium> Li`lEndian: the equivalent of or actually setup MS Exchange?
[11:50] <adaptr> n2diy_: if your own network interface "becomes" a default gateway then something is wrong...
[11:50] <Enverex> adaptr, er, such as? Never had any issues with their Inkjets or lasers on Windows or Linux
[11:51] <nhamilton> freakabcd: no.. i'm not running xinerama
[11:51] <adaptr> Enverex: well, they have made some spectacularly stupid printers in the past
[11:51] <nhamilton> freakabcd: i dont want shared screens.. seperate desktops is fine
[11:51] <adaptr> Enverex: and that depends on what you have had to do with them, and how... :)
[11:51] <freakabcd> nhamilton, err.. you want 2 screens. how will you use the input devices on :1 or :0.1 ?
[11:52] <n2diy_> adaptr: it is the only option in the networkings settings dialog?
[11:52] <freakabcd> i don;t know how it works without xinerama. the mouse will not move over to second screen without it
[11:52] <adaptr> n2diy_: oh, ahum... please run "route -n" from a console prompt and look at the last line
[11:52] <Eysto> I have a wifi connection, sudo iwconfig show me my essid, my wep key, so everything looks to be ok, but i can't access to the internet can someone help me please ?
[11:52] <nhamilton> are you sure about that? i had it running fine on my laptop with one of the LCDs without xinerama
[11:53] <nhamilton> it just meant that i had to open applications in each window and couldnt drag them accross
[11:53] <adaptr> nhamilton: and they both displayed the same screen, then ?
[11:53] <adaptr> heh, indeed
[11:53] <freakabcd> err.. i've never done it myself. so would be nice if you can tell me how the heck you got the input devices to be active on the second screen
[11:53] <nhamilton> adaptr: no... seperate screens
[11:53] <adaptr> freakabcd: he just said he didn;'t :)
[11:54] <freakabcd> i.e. input device(s) switching from :0 to :1
[11:54] <freakabcd> nhamilton, you had it working? i _want_ to have that working.
[11:54] <freakabcd> never did though. mouse/keyboard would never be switched
[11:55] <freakabcd> i can open apps on the other screen, eg: xterm -display :1
[11:55] <freakabcd> but that would be it. i can't get the keyboard over to that xterm!
[11:55] <nhamilton> mm... i dont think it is a seperate x session
[11:55] <cyros> hey i cant get ubuntu 6.10 install on my laptop ive installed other version just fine, it goes super slow and it just freezes when that small ubuntu window in the middle comes up im using a dell inspiron 8100 :/
[11:55] <adaptr> freakabcd: tha's weird - it should just activate when you click the taskbar button...
[11:55] <freakabcd> nhamilton, its not a seperate x session.
[11:55] <nhamilton> no idea how it works.. .just did...
[11:55] <freakabcd> taskbar icon?
[11:55] <freakabcd> that taskbar?
[11:56] <nhamilton> seperate taskbar
[11:56] <freakabcd> s/that/what
[11:56] <Eysto> **PLEASE** I have a wifi connection, sudo iwconfig show me my essid, my wep key, so everything looks to be ok, but i can't access to the internet can someone help me please ? **PLEASE**
[11:56] <adaptr> ah, well, that's more of a DE issue - X probably can do it
[11:57] <freakabcd> adaptr, actually i tried with just plain X as well.
[11:57] <freakabcd> the pointer wouldn't move from :0 to :1
[11:58] <freakabcd> but best thing i found with xinerama was e17.
[11:58] <genben> hi, i have a red cross on my kmix on the panel, and it will not unmute. what is it's problem?
[11:58] <freakabcd> works like a charm. it is xinerama, i.e. can move windows around. but both screens have multiple workspaces that are independent of the other
[11:58] <Eysto> **PLEASE** I have a wifi connection, sudo iwconfig show me my essid, my wep key, so everything looks to be ok, but i can't access to the internet can someone help me please ? **PLEASE**
[11:59] <freakabcd> Eysto, can you ping your router
[11:59] <freakabcd> ?
[11:59] <Rounin> Hello... I need to install a lot of packages beginning with ^ttf-*, but I want to exclude those whose names end in naga10, or alternatively just those packages that can't be installed for some reason. Is there any way of making apt-get do that without typing out each and every valid package name?
[11:59] <nhamilton> freakabcd: any ideas about fixing the xorg conf?
[11:59] <ikor> Eysto: install the NetworkManager. it helps in most of the issues
[12:00] <Eysto> freakabcd : yes i can ping my router
[12:00] <freakabcd> Eysto, and you are sure the router is actually connected to your isp?
[12:01] <freakabcd> Eysto, if so, can you then ping your dns server?
[12:01] <Eysto> sorry but what is isp ? ? actually yesterday i was connected, but each time i reboot i got problems reconect
[12:01] <nhamilton> mm.. gotta go to sleep... night all.. thanks for the attempts
[12:02] <freakabcd> err.. the company that gives you the connection is the isp. anyway, check the routing table on your machine
[12:03] <Eysto> freakabcd : everything seems ok... that's my f*****g problem
[12:04] <d34l3r> !language
[12:04] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:04] <d34l3r> ;)
[12:04] <Eysto> sorry about that
[12:04] <Slart> Anyone using a USB bluetooth dongle to connect to a cell phone, using ubuntu 6.10
[12:04] <cyros> anyone else have problems when install 6.10 on a laptop with it going extremely slow, black screens the cdrom still sounds like its doing something
[12:05] <Sjengstah> ISP means Internet Service Provider
[12:05] <n2diy__> I'm trying to set up a lan, when I activate eth0, it becomes the default gateway, and I can no longer surf using my modem?
[12:05] <Syntax_Error> is there a gpl teamspeak client under linux? i found mumble, but i can't know if it can connect to a teamspeak server
[12:05] <MuLLeR> hi .. is it possible to limit apt-mirror download speed?
[12:06] <halorgium> n2diy__: are you using dhcp on the eth0 ?
[12:06] <Eysto> when I ping www.google.fr It says : unknown host, but I can ping my router, and my second pc (windows-wifi) is connected (the proof is that i can speak to you right now)
[12:06] <freakabcd> Eysto, can you ping your dns server?
[12:06] <n2diy__> halorgium: no I set it to static.
[12:06] <Slart> Syntax_Error: I haven't found anything.. I'm just using the official one
[12:06] <halorgium> n2diy__: did you define a default gateway?
[12:07] <Syntax_Error> Slart> i just found "speak freely", but the de is just stopped
[12:07] <Syntax_Error> s/the de is/the dev is
[12:07] <n2diy__> halorgium: no using system/amin/networking, when I activate eth0 it becomes the default, and there are no other options. Maybe I shouldn't be using that tool?
[12:07] <Slart> Syntax_Error: to bad.. they need some competition to get done with the next version
[12:08] <Eysto> freakabcd : It says : network is unreachable
[12:08] <n2diy> test
[12:08] <genben> n2diy: perhaps you should try setting the eth0/gateway manually, from the command line
[12:08] <laz0r> Eysto: sounds like you need a default route
[12:09] <n2diy> genben: yes that is what I was thinking, it is now de-activated. Where should I make my edits?
[12:09] <laz0r> Eysto: whats the output of sudo route -n ?
[12:09] <genben> n2diy: wait
[12:10] <genben> n2diy: ifconfig eth0 192.168.100.xx broadcast 192.168.100.255 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
[12:10] <n2diy> laz0r: I'm not activating it for the moment, it kills my ppp connection.
[12:10] <Kawaii-Panda> can anyone help me, i am upgrading to feisty to test it, in the middle of downloading, i want to shut down the pc, is there any way to shut down the pc and yet have the download 256/1088 to continue and not redownload the other packages again?
[12:10] <n2diy> genben, roger that.
[12:10] <genben> n2diy: route add default gateway 192.168.100.10
[12:11] <Eysto> laz0r : Destination   passerelle   genmask    indic metric ref   user iface, and that's all, nothing more
[12:11] <genben> n2diy: then edit your /etc/resolv.conf and add the correct nameservers, usually the ones given by your ISP
[12:11] <n2diy> genben, but I don't want it to be my default gateway, I want the modem to do that.
[12:11] <genben> you want your modem to be your gateway?
[12:11] <laz0r> Eysto: mmh, thats not very much, but you can ping your router?
[12:11] <Kawaii-Panda> an anyone help me, i am upgrading to feisty to test it, in the middle of downloading, i want to shut down the pc, is there any way to shut down the pc and yet have the download 256/1088 to continue and not redownload the other packages again after reboot?
[12:12] <Eysto> laz0r: yep
[12:12] <cyros> damnit it just locked up
[12:12] <Li`lEndian> halorgium, equivalent of MS Exchange server....goodness, am I lagged
[12:12] <laz0r> Eysto: then try sudo route add default gw <ip-address-of-your-router>
[12:12] <patrick_king> hello, i having trouble with my usbdvdrw. i tconnected it and i burned a cd then i disconnected it, but when i put it back on ubuntu doesnt mount it
[12:12] <laz0r> Eysto: and then ping google again
[12:13] <Enverex> I've swapped from Gentoo to Ubuntu but I'm having an issue with text. It was fine in Gentoo but for some reason it seems... over aliased in Ubuntu and I can't figure out why...
[12:13] <patrick_king> what could be wrong
[12:14] <n2diy> genben, ok, I have eth0 up, are those changes going to stick?
[12:14] <cyros> hey guys how do i set boot options for the live cd? F6 and get that boot options line with a bunch of stuff on it and i have to erase it all? or is there another way?
[12:14] <capiira> hi all how can i modify ubuntus users rights so that just root can update and administer the system?
[12:14] <Kawaii-Panda> i am upgrading to feisty to test it, in the middle of downloading, i want to shut down the pc, is there any way to shut down the pc and yet have the download 256/1088 to continue and not redownload the 256 packages again?
[12:14] <genben> probably not
[12:15] <genben> but once you can connect out, halfway there
[12:15] <genben> you need to make sure your eth0 activates on boot, check your dmesg to see if it does
[12:15] <Eysto> don't work i'm gonna kill myself, bye and thanks
[12:16] <Kawaii-Panda> capiira: it is that automatically, since reg. users dont know the root password in the first place.
[12:16] <genben> and you need to edit your network file, i'm new to ubuntu so not sure what that is called
[12:16] <slipttees> hello
[12:16] <capiira> nah not really i enabled root and when i start synaptics package manager then it wants the user pass
[12:16] <slipttees> algum brasileiro?
[12:17] <n2diy> genben, ok, will see what is what, you should use my nick in your replies, so the bell rings, and your message is highlighted here.
[12:17] <genben> n2diy: the file is called /etc/network/interfaces
[12:17] <genben> n2diy: sorry, yep, too much clutter
[12:17] <rebeca> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[12:17] <slipttees> holaaa
[12:17] <slipttees> :)
[12:18] <capiira> i would like to set ubuntu apps to ask for root pass and not for user pass
[12:19] <patrick_king> how do i unmount a drive
[12:20] <slipttees> 
[12:20] <slipttees> somebody is having Imperfection of segmentation with firefox 1.5.0.9?
[12:20] <cyros> umount /mnt/name
[12:21] <steelb> whats a good proggie for turning video files into DVDs (and be able to add subtitles from a subtitle file)?
[12:22] <M0ses> Hello
[12:22] <zMaster> hi
[12:22] <steelb> hey
[12:22] <cyros> just checked the CD it says that 0 checksums failed so im guessin the burn it good right?
[12:22] <slipttees> somebody is having Imperfection of segmentation with firefox 1.5.0.9?
[12:22] <zMaster> nope
[12:22] <n2diy> genben, ok, eth0 is up, and I can ping it, and the router. Now, I want to add a second box, and share the modem connecion with it over the lan.
[12:22] <patrick_king> ok how do i mount a drive
[12:23] <n2diy> patrick_king: see man mount
[12:23] <genben> n2diy: plug the second box in, do the same 'ifconfig/route' commands but change it's ip addy to whatever, and make sure it has the same gateway as the other system does
[12:23] <^AnDrEw^> hi, when i boot ubuntu from a cd to install, i cant seem to click install
[12:23] <M0ses> question: how do i figure out my monitor's refresh rates? its defined as 'generic' to the machine and dont give me details when i try to probe it
[12:23] <^AnDrEw^> the mouse wont move
[12:23] <^AnDrEw^> anyway around this
[12:23] <genben> kick it
[12:24] <cyros> mount /dev/device_name /mnt/name_you_would_like
[12:24] <Li`lEndian> can anyone tell me how i can direct afraid.org DNS addresses to point to my ubuntu machine. the Ubuntu box shares a connection with an XP machine.
[12:24] <n2diy> genben, yep, I know how to do that, it accessing the modem that has me befuddled.
[12:24] <Li`lEndian> so whenever i try to locate my webserver over www, it reports connection refused or something like that
[12:28] <igge> how can I check what kernel modules are loaded and what versions?
[12:28] <genben> n2diy: so you have a modem connecting to a router connecting to your lan
[12:28] <^AnDrEw^> hi, when i boot ubuntu from a cd to install, i cant seem to click install
[12:28] <n2diy> genben, nope, I have the modem sitting in this box on a dialup line, and this box is hooked to the router via the nic card. :)
[12:28] <halorgium> ^AnDrEw^: is the mouse plugged in? :P
[12:28] <^AnDrEw^> its a laptop
[12:28] <^AnDrEw^> it does move but it takes ages then crashes
[12:28] <^Ocean^> Weather Report 2.16.2 Broken ?
[12:28] <genben> n2diy: what sort of router?
[12:28] <^Ocean^> None of my Desktop weather apps seem to work.  none of the G-desklets weather applets or the Gnome Weather Report Applet work.   Is this an issue with my distro, or a global issue ?
[12:28] <n2diy> genben, Linksys BEW11S4
[12:28] <cyros> it would be great if i could get edgy to install
[12:28] <genben> n2diy: so can you connect the modem to the router?
[12:28] <n2diy> genben, no, it is an ISA card.
[12:28] <M0ses> cyros: i just installed it after 3 days trying
[12:28] <cyros> M0ses: what problems were u getting?
[12:28] <genben> n2diy: i have a cable modem connected to a linux box playing as a router/gateway, then that connects to my lan,
[12:28] <genben> n2diy: yuck, i see
[12:28] <n2diy> genben, correction, it is an external modem, but it doesn't have an RJ45 jacks, just the RJ 11 jacks.
[12:28] <M0ses> the screen would go black as soon as the kernel would load 1st time to install
[12:28] <genben> n2diy: gnarly
[12:29] <cyros> M0ses: was it booting crazy slow into the installl ?
[12:29] <cyros> yea mine does that too
[12:29] <cyros> what did u do to fix it?
[12:29] <M0ses> the booting was ok
[12:29] <igge> how can I check what version a loaded kernel module is?
[12:29] <genben> k, you need to
[12:29] <^AnDrEw^>  cyros: mines crazy slow
[12:29] <cyros> its crazy slow then it goes black comes back and freezes
[12:29] <M0ses> i installed the alternative iso in text mode.
[12:29] <n2diy> cyros: lsmod
[12:29] <slipttees> hello guys
[12:29] <^AnDrEw^> cyros: i cant even move my mouse because it crashes after i move it
[12:29] <slipttees> look this
[12:29] <slipttees> http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/1307
[12:30] <n2diy> genben: roger on the gnarly.
[12:30] <igge> lsmod lists the modules... but how to know which version of a module...
[12:30] <igge> is it possible?
[12:30] <cyros> M0ses: alternative iso? what does that do
[12:30] <cyros> no GUI ?
[12:30] <^AnDrEw^> yea
[12:31] <M0ses> cyros: it gives you more control over the install process, you can bypass certain features
[12:31] <cyros> shit i gotta burn this again :/
[12:31] <capiira> nobody know how to set root as privileged user in ubuntu ?
[12:31] <M0ses> cyros: you can also install via command line
[12:31] <cyros> how do u set boot perameters?
[12:31] <^Ocean^> capiira, root is a privileged user.
[12:31] <capiira> not really
[12:31] <^AnDrEw^> yea but u need alternative iso for that dont u M0ses
[12:32] <^Ocean^> what privilages would u like root to have, that it dont have...
[12:32] <capiira> when i start synaptics then it prompts for the initial user pass
[12:32] <slipttees> somebody?
[12:32] <baK\G> Can somebody help me, i have ubuntu 6.10 and when im tryin to install something im gettin this error:
[12:32] <slipttees> http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/1307
[12:32] <M0ses> ^AnDrEw^: is what i was saying!
[12:32] <baK\G> Running ./configure...
[12:32] <baK\G> checking for gcc... gcc
[12:32] <baK\G> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[12:32] <baK\G> See `config.log' for more details.
[12:32] <baK\G> Oops! It looks like ./configure failed.
[12:32] <cyros> M0ses: did u still have to mess around with it or it installed smoothly from the alt cd?
[12:32] <^Ocean^> capiira, that wold be te root password
[12:32] <zOap> I installed firefox2 from one of the update scripts on ubuntu wiki. But now java doesnt work... what packages do I need to get javasupport in fireefox2 then? I'm using dapper..
[12:32] <M0ses> cyros: it went OK using text mode
[12:32] <capiira> yeah and when i type it then i get access denied
[12:33] <capiira> but root account is enabled and rights also set
[12:33] <^Ocean^> then ur typin ur password wrong...
[12:33] <capiira> nah im not
[12:33] <^Ocean^> are you sure ur not ?
[12:33] <^Ocean^> try sudo
[12:33] <capiira> yes im sure
[12:33] <whatever-thingy> igge: have you tried modinfo?
[12:33] <^Ocean^> see if ur password works tere..
[12:33] <^Ocean^> there.
[12:34] <capiira> the initial user pass works but the root pass dont
[12:34] <^Ocean^> then ur distro is fscked, re-install and dont forget the root password this time
[12:34] <desmond> I've installed  beryl 0.14 on and Ubuntu 6.10 (AMD64+Nvidia 6600). I get the cube and the other effects Beryl provides. Unfortunately there's no maximize, minimize or close buttons above the program windows. They only appear if i type "emerald --replace" on a separate console window. Any idea about how to solve it?
[12:34] <igge> whatever-thingy: nope not before but tried now... yeps that's what I was looking for... thanks!!!
[12:34] <capiira> nah its a fresh install
[12:34] <capiira> and just added root
[12:34] <capiira> cant be fucked
[12:35] <cyros> hmm i have 5.10 install on the lappy could i use the alt cd to upgrade it?
[12:35] <^Ocean^> how can u just add root ?
[12:35] <Enverex> hmm, any ideas why the fonts all look pants in KDE apps? (over aliased and almost bolded)
[12:35] <^Ocean^> root is a default user already added
[12:35] <^Ocean^> Dont tell me you re-added root
[12:35] <Enverex> capiira, On ubuntu you only use root with sudo
[12:35] <^AnDrEw^> M0ses: is there any away around using alt cd? if the otherone is working slow
[12:35] <capiira> with passwd
[12:35] <^Ocean^> because if you did, you likly fsked the uid of the root user too a normal user,  in turn u fscked ur super user account
[12:36] <M0ses> ^AnDrEw^: if its working slow maybe its hardware problem
[12:36] <^AnDrEw^> not hardware
[12:36] <^AnDrEw^> XP still on there
[12:36] <^AnDrEw^> cant i just boot it without it loading up onto the main screen
[12:36] <M0ses> i meant the CD
[12:36] <^AnDrEw^> (i got no cd's left :P)
[12:36] <capiira> just added it using passwd root
[12:37] <cyros> i cant upgrade from 5.10 to 6.10 right i have to do it like 5.10 to 6.06 to 6.10?
[12:37] <capiira> to have the possibility to use it
[12:37] <Enverex> capiira, Can you still use sudo?
[12:37] <n2diy> cyros: yes
[12:37] <capiira> yes with normal user
[12:37] <M0ses> ^AnDrEw^: is the CD drive working properly?
[12:37] <^AnDrEw^> yea
[12:37] <^AnDrEw^> everything is booting up
[12:37] <capiira> like when its a fresh install
[12:37] <^AnDrEw^> i got a msg on the window saying
[12:37] <desmond> I've installed  beryl 0.14 on and Ubuntu 6.10 (AMD64+Nvidia 6600). I get the cube and the other effects Beryl provides. Unfortunately there's no maximize, minimize or close buttons above the program windows. They only appear if i type "emerald --replace" on a separate console window. Any idea about how to solve it?
[12:37] <cyros> n2diy: i could do it fom 5.10 to 6.10 ?
[12:37] <M0ses> did you check the iso md5?
[12:37] <yoshiznit123> hi everyone, i'm trying to connect two ubuntu computers with an ad-hoc network (to share an internet connection, but that comes later :-)), but can't seem to get it working. i've set both computers to mode ad-hoc and the same essid with a static ip address, but they still can't ping each other. any ideas?
[12:38] <^AnDrEw^> The panel encounterd a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_PANEL_WirelessApplet"
[12:38] <n2diy> cyros: that isn't recommended.
[12:38] <capiira> i just want to let everything to prompt for root pass and not for the initial user pass
[12:38] <cyros> yea i figured
[12:38] <cyros> ehh im just gonna DL the alt cd
[12:38] <gnomefreak> desmond: please see #ubuntu-xgl. you might want to try changing the theme you are using but its a known issue
[12:39] <M0ses> cyros: dont worry about the alt CD its as easy as the regular binary iso
[12:39] <desmond> gnomefreak: thx. I'll do so.
[12:39] <M0ses> only text mode\] 
[12:39] <cyros> 1100 KB/SEC woot! 7mins :)
[12:39] <M0ses> check the file, burn it slow
[12:40] <cyros> i hope everything works out
[12:40] <cyros> yea i checked md5 last time im gonna do it again
[12:40] <cyros> i burned at 10x should i go slower?
[12:40] <^AnDrEw^> M0ses: can i use text mode with the orignal binrary
[12:40] <M0ses> cyrus: 4x is preferable
[12:40] <cyros> probably not, y would they make a whole different iso is that was possible u know
[12:40] <cyros> M0ses: yea im gonna do it at 4
[12:41] <M0ses> ^AnDrEw^: no, that feature only in alt install
[12:41] <neil_edgy> !dns
[12:41] <^AnDrEw^> kk
[12:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:41] <tazz> i am getting problems while installing libc6 which seems to be broken and it wont ununstall, so sould i uninstall it manually?
[12:41] <cyros> damn old laptop ruining my life
[12:41] <^AnDrEw^> M0ses: ive finally got the install thing open
[12:41] <^AnDrEw^> M0ses: will it still lag once installing
[12:42] <M0ses> dont know till you try... ;-)
[12:42] <^AnDrEw^> ;)
[12:42] <cyros> i was so close to switching to another distro :x
[12:42] <cyros> but im gonna give it another go
[12:42] <vmauu> how do I enable a second monitor with 6.10?
[12:43] <M0ses> i'm new do ubuntu also and didnt figure out if its my distro ;-)
[12:43] <cyros> i was gonna do kubuntu but i just stuck with the regular
[12:43] <Jowi> !xinerama | vmauu
[12:43] <ubotu> vmauu: xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[12:43] <LetterRip> hi who can I request to have language updates imported into ubuntu
[12:43] <M0ses> the Gnome is as good as KDE
[12:44] <LetterRip> for some languages the ubuntu version is far behind the blender version
[12:44] <vmauu> jowi: apt-get install xinerama?
[12:44] <xopher-> LetterRip, even better, update them yourself
[12:44] <cyros> if theres a kubuntu should ubuntu be gubuntu :)
[12:44] <LetterRip> i tried
[12:44] <xopher-> LetterRip launchpad.net , rosetta
[12:44] <LetterRip> i don't have permissions
[12:44] <Jowi> vmauu, read the link that ubotu provided you with
[12:44] <LetterRip> Not allowed here
[12:44] <LetterRip> Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page.
[12:44] <vmauu> in the help files?
[12:45] <M0ses> i guess the developers chose Gnome as default
[12:45] <xopher-> LetterRip, you've registered and logged in?..
[12:45] <LetterRip> yes
[12:45] <LetterRip> and yes
[12:45] <mwe> vmauu: open the link in your web browser
[12:45] <xopher-> really weird, what page are you trying to access?
[12:45] <M0ses> cyrus: you can always get kde
[12:45] <vmauu> ah (ubotu) thx
[12:45] <LetterRip> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/breezy/+source/blender/+pots/blender/+upload
[12:45] <LetterRip> but get the same for other versions also
[12:45] <cyros> yea i could apt-get install it right?
[12:46] <M0ses> you should be able to
[12:46] <yoshiznit123> !ad-hoc
[12:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ad-hoc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:47] <J_P> hi all
[12:47] <J_P> people, are there ubuntu for ARM processor ?
[12:47] <mwe> no
[12:48] <J_P> mwe: are there project to support this arch ?
[12:49] <zdravko> hi there!
[12:49] <klhugo> please, I have a question.
[12:49] <cyros> M0ses: the alt is going to have a gnome on it right?
[12:49] <M0ses> cyrus: yes.
[12:50] <mwe> J_P: no. the idea is to support a limited number of archs to provide a faster release cycle. you probably want debian
[12:50] <klhugo> Is ubuntu good for kernel stuffs, like create new modules, etc....
[12:50] <M0ses> cyros: yes.
[12:50] <cyros> got it! its time for that burning action
[12:50] <cyros> brb
[12:50] <klhugo> what pakages should I download?
[12:50] <Jowi> yoshiznit123, I would recommend you to use "wifi-radar" to set up the ad-hoc (includes ability to set wep, dhcp, channel etc etc
[12:51] <Jowi> !wifi-radar
[12:51] <^AnDrEw^> M0ses: i found a blank cd ima try the alt cd now
[12:51] <ubotu> wifi-radar: graphical utility for managing Wi-Fi profiles. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.7-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 36 kB, installed size 208 kB
[12:51] <Enverex> What happened to the different kernels? (k7, 686, etc) Should everyone just use the generic one now? If so what happened to the optimisations?
[12:51] <M0ses> ^AnDrEw^: youve got nothing to lose
[12:52] <xopher-> Enverex, theyre all in the one kernel now
[12:52] <^AnDrEw^> except a blank cd :P
[12:52] <Enverex> xopher-, ... how can you have multiple machine optimisations in the same kernel? Or does it check when you install it?
[12:52] <xopher-> Enverex dont ask me, that just what Ive been told :)
[12:53] <Valmarko> Is autoremove really safe ?
[12:53] <zdravko> are there any Scribes' fans here?
[12:54] <xopher-> Valmarko basically yeah, it removes apps that the other app was depending on, but nothing else depends on
[12:55] <Valmarko> xopher tank you
[12:55] <capiira> so no simple way to let all apps ask for root pass? in ubuntu user can even run the update manager thats shit
[12:56] <M0ses> capiira: sudo?
[12:56] <ricardo> #ubuntu-es
[12:56] <capiira> i hate sudo
[12:56] <finalbeta> rofl
[12:56] <cafuego> capiira: only if said user is in the admin group.
[12:56] <capiira> i want tit to work like in debian
[12:56] <Kawaii-Panda> me too. gksudo is the future. yeah
[12:56] <finalbeta> then use debian.
[12:56] <ricardo> how intro in channel of ubuntu-es with xchat??
[12:56] <M0ses> capiira: install Debian ;-)
[12:56] <xopher-> ricardo, /j #ubuntu-es
[12:56] <Kawaii-Panda> hey capiira, you tried changing the user privelages?
[12:57] <whatever-thingy> capiira: man sudoers
[12:57] <capiira> how ?
[12:57] <gnomefreak> capiira: sudo -i
[12:57] <M0ses> ubuntu is Debian for newbies ;-)
[12:57] <ricardo> thx xopher
[12:57] <capiira> kawaii how ?
[12:57] <capiira> that what im looking for
[12:57] <Kawaii-Panda> System->Administration->Users and Groups->Properties->User Privelages
[12:57] <capiira> yeah its everything enabled
[12:57] <capiira> for root
[12:58] <Kawaii-Panda> theres an option there to disable Administer the System
[12:58] <capiira> its on
[12:58] <Kawaii-Panda> so, like you want to disable everything for root? man - that's not right...
[12:58] <capiira> nah
[12:58] <capiira> what i want is
[12:58] <Kawaii-Panda> !enter
[12:58] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:58] <capiira> for example if you start synaptics then it asks for a password
[12:59] <capiira> but just the initial user pass works and the root pass dont
[12:59] <gnomefreak> capiira: enabling the su password is not recommended in ubuntu
[12:59] <gnomefreak> !root | capiira
[12:59] <ubotu> capiira: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:00] <capiira> users can even update the system that bad too
[01:00] <cafuego> capiira: No, they can't.
[01:01] <capiira> update manager starts
[01:01] <M0ses> capiira: if they dont know the pass, how can they?
[01:01] <cafuego> capiira: So?
[01:01] <Enverex> Is there any way to add some colour to the prompt? (like in Gentoo where the machine name is red, your username is green, etc) rather than the solid white lines by default in the Ubuntu terminals? (makes it easier to see what you're doing)
[01:01] <mwe> capiira: um only users with sudo privileges can do system administration. that's kinda like if only users who knows the root pass can do it
[01:01] <cafuego> Enverex: Yup, just add colour codes.
[01:01] <capiira> hmmm
[01:01] <Enverex> cafuego, erm, where? heh
[01:01] <Kawaii-Panda> capiira: uhm... or uninstall the update manager
[01:02] <cafuego> mwe: except when you use sudo, you can give users limited admin access. No such thing with root-only.
[01:02] <finalbeta> capiira, revove the users from the root group and sudo wont work for them.
[01:02] <Kawaii-Panda> and just use aptitude or apt-get to update the system every month or so
[01:02] <mwe> cafuego: right. much safer
[01:02] <zdravko> i would like to start learning LaTeX
[01:02] <cafuego> Enverex: in the PS1 env variable. (Check ~/.bashrc)
[01:02] <zdravko> where should I begin ?
[01:02] <capiira> hmmm sad but i think ubuntu is nothing for me then i prefer something working witht he original linux right concept
[01:03] <cafuego> capiira: Nobody is forcing you to use it.
[01:03] <zOap> What is the easiest way of getting quicktime support in firefox? I CAN watch quicktimes in ubuntu, only not in firefox(2)..
[01:03] <capiira> i know was just trying it out
[01:03] <Enverex> Oh, another question, my fonts don't look very good. GTK apps and Gnome are ok, but any coloured text in the terminal looks a bit fuzzy and the fonts in KDE apps looks bolded and over aliased. Any ideas what's up with that?
[01:04] <cafuego> zOap: the browser plugin for whichever via player you use
[01:04] <n2diy> Ok, I have my basic lan setup, two boxes can ping each other, and the router. Now, I can I share my ext. modem connection with the other box?
[01:04] <cafuego> s/via/video/
[01:04] <finalbeta> capiira, fine, but you'r not getting the point. You should try to grasp the concept first. It's is the original rights system.
[01:04] <Jowi> capiira, configure it however you want it to be. just like ubuntu can use root, slackware can use sudo.
[01:04] <hanbit21> dgfsda
[01:04] <hanbit21> 
[01:04] <hanbit21> 
[01:04] <un_operateur> capiira,  man sudoers
[01:04] <zOap> cafuego, I'm using totem, and I have downloaded -mozilla-totem-plugin but it doesnt work for quicktimes. I don't know why not..
[01:04] <jhaig> zOap: Have a look at EasyUbuntu - http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[01:04] <Jowi> capiira, that root/sudo page is a recommended read though :)
[01:05] <cafuego> t:
[01:05] <zOap> jhaig, thanks:)
[01:05] <capiira> yeah but i dont want sudo at all
[01:05] <capiira> prefer su
[01:05] <un_operateur> capiira, then unlock your root account -- simple
[01:05] <cafuego> capiira: alias su='sudo -s'
[01:05] <un_operateur> capiira, sudo passwd root
[01:05] <capiira> yeah i already done that
[01:06] <un_operateur> capiira, so what are you complaining about then? :)
[01:06] <capiira> but for example  synaptics still ask for the initial user pass
[01:06] <capiira> root pass dont work there
[01:06] <Jowi> capiira, that is because it is launched from the menu as "gksudo sypnaptic". gksudo request the sudo password.
[01:07] <cafuego> Jowi: So if you change the menu to run 'gksu synaptic' instead...
[01:07] <cafuego> Eh, capiira even :-)
[01:07] <capiira> ohh but its not only synaptics
[01:07] <capiira> then i would need to modify everything manually?
[01:07] <cafuego> synaptic. No 's'.
[01:08] <Kawaii-Panda> yay! synaptic does not need to  redownload already downloaded packages! woohoo! i can continue downloading the feisty packages i cancelled a minute ago!
[01:08] <cafuego> capiira: Yes, or if you want it to be like debian, you xna run debian.
[01:08] <Kawaii-Panda> woohoo
[01:08] <capiira> ohhh
[01:08] <capiira> thats hardcore
[01:08] <capiira> hehe
[01:08] <un_operateur> capiira, you can always change the command for the synaptics launcher in /usr/share/applications (i think)
[01:08] <beezly> you don't need to change gksudo to gksu
[01:08] <cafuego> Or set the you user password to be the same as the root password.
[01:08] <beezly> you can change sufo to ask for root password
[01:08] <beezly> sudo
[01:08] <cafuego> beezly: ah, true
[01:08] <oldroger> does anybody know where the shell gets it`s time stamp from? terminal is 9 minutes in the future then system time AND harrdware clock
[01:08] <capiira> hmmm how ?
[01:09] <cafuego> capiira: 'man sudo' is a good start :-)
[01:09] <beezly> i'm just checking the sudoers man page now - there's a flag called "rootpw"
[01:09] <n2diy> Ok, I have my basic lan setup, two boxes can ping each other, and the router. Now, how can I share my ext. modem connection with the other box?
[01:09] <capiira> let me see
[01:10] <capiira> thanks :)
[01:10] <beezly> capiira: try adding rootpw to the Defaults line in sudoers
[01:10] <cafuego> capiira: 'man sudoers' actually
[01:10] <capiira> yeah i will try to do that
[01:11] <seanj_> hehe, my easyubuntu experince sucked... can't wait for the next barrage of problems
[01:11] <MeSk> h!
[01:11] <un_operateur> capiira, or you could be a hardcore user and avoid synaptics altogether :)
[01:11] <auTONYmous> question (a dumb one...): I'm re-compiling my currently running kernel. Do I have to re-start in my old kernel to install the replacement, or can I just dpkg -i and reboot?
[01:11] <capiira> :)
[01:11] <beezly> capiira: yeah - i think you're bonkers for not wanting the normal sudo behaviour, but each to their own! :)
[01:12] <capiira> heheh
[01:12] <seanj_> auTONYmous: you can just restart if the new kernel is properly installed... dpkg has nothing to do with it
[01:12] <un_operateur> auTONYmous, if grub is configured right, the new kernel will be the default kernel on next reboot -- which is the usual behaviour
[01:12] <n2diy> auTONYmous: When you reboot, you'll be given a choice as to which kernel to boot with.
[01:13] <Jowi> auTONYmous, if you recompile your kernel you need to copy the vmlinuz to /boot and then configure grub to use it. if you apt-get an already compiled kernel it will be automatically added to grub.
[01:13] <auTONYmous> lemme explain further: I'm currently running a custom 2.6.19-1 kernel, which I found issues with. So, I recompiled, repackaged (make-kpkg) and I want to know if I can install it now, or do I need to drop to my old 2.6.17 kernel to reinstall the 2.6.19-1?
[01:14] <zOap> jhaig, I download the .deb for easyubuntu, and did the wget and it returned OK, restarted firefox but no go... jus gets the error: not supoprted format..
[01:15] <n2diy> Ok, I have my basic lan setup, two boxes can ping each other, and the router. Now, how can I share my ext. modem connection with the other box?
[01:15] <jhaig> zOap: Run easyubuntu and select what you want to install.
[01:15] <zOap> jhaig, you mean just easyubuntu at term?
[01:15] <jhaig> zOap: It should be under Applications->System Tools
[01:15] <zOap> jhaig, ok, thanks
[01:16] <Jowi> auTONYmous, good question. don't think it's a good idea to replace a kernel that is already in use. you should give them different file names "vmlinuz-2.6.15-27-686-bronze" and vmlinuz-2.6.15-27-686-bronze2"
[01:16] <Jowi> auTONYmous, I would boot into another kernel version to be on the safe side.
[01:16] <auTONYmous> Jowi: that's what I thought...I usually do restart a different kernel before re-installing. I was just looking to cut some corners this time
[01:18] <auTONYmous> Jowi: Incidentally....I was doing some VMware testing....care to know what I found out?
[01:18] <||arifaX> auTONYmous: tell
[01:19] <cyros> M0ses: sweet looks like its working
[01:19] <cyros> whats OEM mode?
[01:19] <auTONYmous> 1) WMWare (Workstation 6 beta in my case, but I'm sure this applies to all VMWare products) requires USBFS compiled into the kernel to use any USB devices.
[01:20] <auTONYmous> I found THAT from testing on SuSE 10.2 (Factory), which removed USBFS from their default kernels
[01:20] <cyros> M0ses: oh maybe i spoke to soon :/
[01:20] <Jowi> auTONYmous, sounds logical
[01:20] <n2diy> Ok, I have my basic lan setup, two boxes can ping each other, and the router. Now, how can I share my ext. modem connection with the other box?
[01:21] <M0ses> cyros: are trying the text mode install?
[01:21] <Jowi> n2diy, the router should take care of that
[01:21] <auTONYmous> 2) While the VMWare guests perform decently with AIGLX/XGL, the actual program (under GTK-Gnome) has problems minimizing when you're in Compiz/Beryl.
[01:21] <un_operateur> n2diy, errm, just which are you using? a router or an external modem?
[01:21] <cyros> M0ses: yea i am
[01:21] <cyros> oh its going now again
[01:21] <auTONYmous> That affects desktop users like myself, running an XP guest on a Linux box (for obvious reasons)
[01:21] <M0ses> give it time... ;-)
[01:21] <cyros> its starting the partitioner
[01:22] <cyros> M0ses: whats OEM mode?
[01:22] <n2diy> un_operateur: I have the boxes hooked together with the router, and one box has the external modem.
[01:22] <un_operateur> n2diy, so the router doesnt actually connect this network upto the internet?
[01:22] <Jowi> n2diy, you should hook the modem to the router and let it share the connection.
[01:23] <auTONYmous> 3) VMWare guests on Linux prefer to have their virtual disks on EXT3 filesystems. I'm seeing weird disk behavior on XFS. I haven't dug into this one just yet.
[01:23] <M0ses> cyros: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[01:23] <cyros> thanks
[01:23] <n2diy> un_operateur: Jowi, I can't hook the modem up to the router, it is a 56k external modem with RJ11 jacks.
[01:24] <Jowi> n2diy, ah. dial-up.
[01:24] <cyros> wondering if i should use EXT3 or something else like JFS or XFS
[01:24] <Jowi> n2diy, use firestarter to set up internet sharing in an easy way
[01:24] <M0ses> cyros: i'm using ext3 journaling
[01:25] <n2diy> un_operateur: Jowi, ok
[01:25] <cyros> yea im gonna use that, hmm mount point / right?
[01:25] <oldroger> does anybody know where the shell gets it`s time stamp from? terminal is 9 minutes in the future then system time AND
[01:25] <oldroger>            harrdware clock
[01:26] <auTONYmous> and lastly, 4) Compling a custom kernel for VMWare hosting, there's a couple of other things to watch out for (if the VM guest is to be a desktop): Under processor type and features, use 250hz timer. Guests run too fast on 1000hz timers. Second, stick with flat memory model the sparse model freaks XP guests out periodically. I haven't debugged the second yet.
[01:26] <M0ses> cyros: mount point / bootable flag on
[01:26] <cyros> nah im dual booting with winblows
[01:27] <cyros> im gonna install the grub bootloader
[01:27] <lotacus> hehe so am I well, triple boot ubuntu,xp,vista
[01:27] <M0ses> grub is good
[01:27] <cyros> so i dont need the bootable flag right
[01:27] <cyros> ?
[01:27] <auTONYmous> I need to capture all that crap I just wrote...
[01:27] <M0ses> i have both winxp pro and ubuntu the flag is on in both
[01:28] <M0ses> the grub is working properly
[01:28] <cyros> will i still have the options for grub if i put the flag on?
[01:28] <M0ses> yes
[01:28] <M0ses> i'm not sure if this install define swap automatically
[01:28] <cyros> i had a swap i didnt partition manually
[01:29] <cyros> ok im gonna put it on i guess
[01:29] <assasukasse> hi everyone
[01:29] <cyros> hahah uh oh
[01:29] <assasukasse> can i have my root partition on a 3.2Gb disk?
[01:29] <assasukasse> or is too little?
[01:29] <ciscosurfer> assasukasse: what exactly are you trying to do?
[01:30] <lotacus> I installed the ATI drivers, and when I rebooted my monitor said "H/V syn over frequency" bah! I guess it's something in the xorg.conf file, anyways, I went into console because I couldn't startx and ran aticonfig with the display flag and set 1024x768. then I did startx and everything is good I think, but I have a question
[01:30] <cyros> i forgot how i used to do it
[01:30] <cyros> if i left the flag on or off
[01:30] <Jowi> assasukasse, that's on the edge. best to install the server version and add to it little by little
[01:30] <assasukasse> i have 3 disk, one 1.2Gb that is swap, one is 3.2Gb and i wish to make root, and one 8Gb that i wish to make home
[01:30] <Bogaurd> I need some help with procmail... how can I move emails that contain a certain string in the subject to a folder in my maildir?
[01:31] <Jowi> assasukasse, try. but I think 3.5GB is about minimum. not 100% sure though
[01:31] <assasukasse> Jowi probably i won't be able to update right?
[01:31] <Jowi> assasukasse, update what?
[01:32] <Jowi> assasukasse, the system?
[01:32] <assasukasse> yes
[01:32] <lotacus> what is the correct precedure to enable 3D acceleration on an ATI radeon x1650?
[01:32] <ciscosurfer> assasukasse: 2GB is the minimum I believe
[01:32] <M0ses> cyros: i think you can change the flag from the bios later, not sure, either way, you can always reinstall ;-)
[01:32] <ciscosurfer> assasukasse: you should be okay.  go ahead and give it a try!
[01:32] <Jowi> assasukasse, you should. the installation size won't be 3.5 GB but the installation process first copies some stuff to the harddisk and then unpack it. so at installation time it need more space than the final size will be
[01:33] <Keneo> hello, is somebody using firefox 1.5.0.9 (latest update from ubuntu) inhere?
[01:33] <Keneo> just got a bug that made firefox crash
[01:33] <lotacus> nah I think i'm using 2.0
[01:33] <Keneo> can anybody confirm?
[01:33] <assasukasse> what else i could do?
[01:33] <assasukasse> i mean i have 3 disk, 1.2Gb, 8.4Gb and 3.2Gb
[01:33] <ciscosurfer> Keneo: are you on Dapper or Edgy?
[01:33] <assasukasse> any other idea?
[01:33] <Keneo> dapper
[01:33] <malt> what is ubuntu stable version release out so far?
[01:33] <Jowi> assasukasse, just try it. worst thing that happens is that it doesn't work.
[01:33] <assasukasse> oki doki
[01:33] <Keneo> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/78561/comments/8
[01:34] <UbuntuInstaller> I need some major help, can someone with Windows XP Home please copy their boot.bin?
[01:34] <lotacus> ubuntu is still using mesa rendering even after installing the ati drivers. How do I get 3D rendering to work?
[01:34] <UbuntuInstaller> Oops, and put it on pastebin?  I really need it.
[01:34] <ciscosurfer> Keneo: on Dapper, the latest and greatest FF is >> 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.9-0ubuntu0.6.06
[01:34] <lotacus> i've tried some tuts on the net but they all break ubuntu
[01:35] <assasukasse> im trying to install
[01:35] <Keneo> ciscosurfer, see the link
[01:35] <Keneo> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/78561/comments/8
[01:35] <UbuntuInstaller> I screwed up my computer because I told the computer to use Install Ubuntu as the default boot but now it's screwed up.  So I want to change "Install Ubuntu" to Window's code.
[01:35] <ciscosurfer> Keneo: I just looked.  So FF is crashing?
[01:35] <Keneo> it is here...
[01:35] <ciscosurfer> Keneo: have you perused Ubuntu Forums for this issue yet?
[01:36] <Keneo> I noticed it in a mailing list
[01:36] <lotacus> .. i think i' mtalking to myself
[01:36] <Keneo> 2.0.1 also seemed to crash
[01:36] <Keneo> 2.0.0.1
[01:36] <||arifaX> auTONYmous: interesting (vmware)
[01:36] <ciscosurfer> Keneo: Is this a fresh install of FF and a fresh install of Dapper?
[01:36] <ciscosurfer> Keneo: there are many reason why FF might be crashing
[01:37] <ciscosurfer> Keneo: definitely take a look at http://ubuntuforums.org and do an Advanced Search for this issue.  It is a common problem. :-(
[01:37] <auTONYmous> lotacus: are you using the ATI Binary drivers ("FGLRX"), or the Xorg free ones ("ATI" or "RADEON")?
[01:37] <Keneo> only happened with the new update (last week)
[01:37] <Keneo> not fresh install no
[01:38] <lotacus> auTONYmous I used the proprietary installer
[01:38] <lotacus> so yea FGLRX
[01:38] <auTONYmous> lotacus: did you change the entry in your xorg.conf from "ati" to "fglrx"?
[01:38] <M0ses> cyros: i'm not sure, but doesnt the bootable flag be on so that Grub could boot ubuntu?
[01:38] <lotacus> for driver: fglrx, yes there is an entry there, but there are other entries too
[01:39] <auTONYmous> lotacus: what about the kernel module?
[01:39] <lotacus> hold on a sec, let me bring xorg.conf up
[01:40] <lotacus> ection "Device"
[01:40] <lotacus> 	Identifier  "ATI Technologies, Inc. ATI Default Card"
[01:40] <lotacus> 	Driver      "vesa"
[01:40] <lotacus> 	BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
[01:40] <lotacus> EndSection
[01:40] <ciscosurfer> Keneo: you've confirmed it's a segfault by starting up FF from within a terminal, then going to an ASP login page, etc....?
[01:40] <lotacus> and there is that exact same thing but "fglrx"
[01:40] <lotacus> Section "Device"
[01:40] <lotacus> 	Identifier  "aticonfig-Device[0] "
[01:40] <lotacus> 	Driver      "fglrx"
[01:40] <lotacus> EndSection
[01:40] <ciscosurfer> !pastebin > lotacus
[01:40] <Keneo> whel, actually it has nothing to do with an asp login page
[01:40] <Bogaurd> I need some help with procmail... how can I move emails that contain a certain string in the subject to a folder in my maildir?
[01:40] <Keneo> can happen on any login page
[01:40] <UbuntuInstaller> !pastebin > UbuntuInstaller
[01:41] <UbuntuInstaller> hehe
[01:41] <lotacus> do I delete that whole first section "device" that references "vesa" ?
[01:41] <ciscosurfer> haha
[01:41] <fleischwurst> !games
[01:41] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[01:41] <auTONYmous> lotacus: You need to put both of those device entries on "fglrx"....look here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1953501&postcount=1
[01:41] <ciscosurfer> !pastebin
[01:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:41] <auTONYmous> I'll be back in a few...(re-installing the kernel I asked about earlier...)
[01:42] <lotacus> ok
[01:42] <lotacus> i'll try it but I think it's gonna break
[01:42] <UbuntuInstaller> !boot.bin
[01:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about boot.bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:42] <Keneo> ciscosurfer, what FF do you use?
[01:42] <UbuntuInstaller> Grr...
[01:42] <lotacus> if I get it working next i'll be in about xgl problems.
[01:42] <lotacus> hehe
[01:42] <lotacus> glx
[01:43] <auTONYmous> nah, back up your xorg.conf, and run "aticonfig --initial". You'll be all set. Follow that thread I sent you.
[01:43] <lotacus> k
[01:43] <ciscosurfer> Keneo: I'm on Edgy so I use 2.0.0.1  (2.0.0.1+0dfsg-0ubuntu0.6.10)
[01:43] <cyros> M0ses: left the flag on didnt get a grub options yet
[01:43] <cyros> hmm
[01:43] <lotacus> oh... what is the command santax to rename something?
[01:43] <lotacus> :S
[01:43] <lotacus> sorry, i'm just getting a taste of linux
[01:43] <ciscosurfer> lotacus: mv
[01:43] <lotacus> thanks
[01:43] <M0ses> Grub option apear after the packages install
[01:44] <kbrosnan> Keneo: I can't get any of the versions of firefox I have (1.5, 2, or trunk to crash
[01:44] <ciscosurfer> lotacus: in a terminal, type in      man mv
[01:44] <M0ses> see that the Grub recognized your windows os
[01:44] <malt> what is ubuntu's current stable release?
[01:45] <M0ses> malt: 6.10 edgy eft, i think, check the website
[01:45] <malt> Ubuntu 6.10, the Newest Ubuntu Release
[01:45] <malt> ?
[01:46] <drivera90> Yeah, that's it.
[01:46] <ciscosurfer> Keneo: have you tied using Swiftfox? Or even Seamonkey, for that matter?  I'm currently using Seamonkey --and chatting on IRC with ChatZilla (built into Seamonkey)....
[01:47] <cyros> M0ses: nice i was scared
[01:47] <ramoonas> hello, how much ram should ubuntu use when it is doing nothing?
[01:48] <ciscosurfer> ramoonas: depends.  go into a terminal and type     top  ....see what processes are running
[01:48] <Naik0> what is the default image program in gnome?
[01:48] <gaubong> ramoonas: Basic system used around 90M or so.
[01:48] <Naik0> if i want to look at pictures
[01:48] <ramoonas> you see i have a problem because when i boot up
[01:48] <IntuitiveNipple> Apache 2, vhosts - is there a web-based GUI for easy configuration of multiple vhosts, or a shell script of similar ability - I'm thinking of something similar to Plesk, for example.
[01:48] <ramoonas> free shows that it uses about 400 mb ram
[01:48] <gaubong> Naik0: I think you can use evince.
[01:48] <ramoonas> i dont think it should be so
[01:48] <ramoonas> how come?
[01:49] <gaubong> ramoonas: Check the cached used
[01:49] <Naik0> gaubong: nope didnt work
[01:49] <gaubong> ramoonas: I think the system try to cache as much program as possible
[01:49] <ramoonas> gaubong
[01:49] <ramoonas> how?
[01:49] <gaubong> Naik0: Which picture format are you using?
[01:49] <ciscosurfer> ramoonas: seems a quite high on a fresh boot
[01:49] <Naik0> .jpg
[01:49] <Naik0> .gif
[01:49] <gaubong> ramoonas: Run 'top'
[01:49] <Naik0> .png all sort of images
[01:49] <gaubong> Naik0: You may use gthumb
[01:50] <J_P> people, is possible install apache2_mod_python and apache2_mod_php one same server ?
[01:50] <gaubong> ramoonas: This will show you the ram used and the ram cached.
[01:50] <Naik0> gaubong: thanks!
[01:50] <IntuitiveNipple> J_P: yes
[01:50] <ramoonas> it does not show how much mem is cached it only shows how much is buffered, is it the same thing?
[01:51] <ramoonas> it shows cached on swap, though
[01:51] <gaubong> ramoonas: No, the cached one is RAM, not SWAP
[01:52] <gaubong> ramoonas: For example, in my laptop, it show 400M Mem used, 280M cached
[01:52] <gaubong> ramoonas: And system mornitor shows 144M RAM used
[01:53] <gaubong> ramoonas: If you want to know the actual useful ram used, you can always use Gnome System Mornitor.
[01:53] <ramoonas> oh ok
[01:53] <ramoonas> but what does cached means anyway?
[01:53] <gaubong> ramoonas: It's like when you run a program then close it
[01:53] <gaubong> ramoonas: The system will not release the memory used by that program
[01:54] <gaubong> ramoonas: So next time you start it, it will be much faster.
[01:54] <gaubong> ramoonas: No need to read from hdd.
[01:54] <ramoonas> oh
[01:54] <ramoonas> thanx gaubong
[01:54] <ramoonas> now i understand ;)
[01:55] <ramoonas> but can i set up how much memory i want still to remain free?
[01:55] <ramoonas> like a limit or something
[01:55] <malt> ubuntu does fine to run as a server and leave on for like 6 months right? Like does it eat ram over time or crash?
[01:56] <n2diy> malt: how about six years?
[01:56] <malt> n2diy: yeah
[01:56] <malt> it work fine for that like 6 months+
[01:56] <malt> ?
[01:56] <gaubong> ramoonas: I'm not sure, but what is that for?
[01:56] <n2diy> malt: sure, have friends that have servers up for over a decade.
[01:57] <ramoonas> just for fun ;)
[01:57] <Jowi> yes malt. if you have stable hardware
[01:57] <ramoonas> ok ill google
[01:57] <ramoonas> thanks everyone bye
[01:57] <n2diy> ramoonas: memory management is best left to the kernel.
[01:57] <gaubong> ramoonas: In my laptop, most of the time the free RAM is less than 20M
[01:57] <gaubong> ramoonas: After running for a day, almost all program can start in an instance.
[02:00] <igge> how can I find out what package provides a certain file?
[02:00] <igge> should be something using dpkg or apt-get i guess but what
[02:01] <miranda82> hello people
[02:01] <Dimensions> Hiya can some one gimme a link for Installation of Ubuntu on MAC mini ? and can we install it as standalone system ???
[02:01] <miranda82> anyone here know, how to solve this problem? I got an external 120 gb drive, and i can only write text files on it, anything else, makes the usb device to reboot
[02:04] <cyros> uh oh select and install software stuck on 6% cdrom sounds like its doing something
[02:04] <xipietotec> lol
[02:05] <J_P> IntuitiveNipple: Did youinstalled and use both simultaneously with sucess ?
[02:05] <keegan> is there a software that can determine when your computer needs a restart due to over heating or some other reasons
[02:05] <sexbox> hey, does anyone know why ubuntu might not be recognizing any of my keyboards? it recognizing it when its asking me how i want to boot it (from the cd) but then when the actual operating system loads it doesnt allow me to type on either of my keyboards
[02:06] <LjL> !sensord | keegan
[02:06] <ubotu> sensord: hardware sensor information logging daemon. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.10.0-7ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 58 kB, installed size 188 kB
[02:07] <raj> checking for gcc... gcc
[02:07] <raj> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:08] <LjL> Ubotu, tell raj about build-essential | raj, see the private message from Ubotu
[02:08] <piet_> hi
[02:09] <raj> LjL: what abt in suse ?
[02:09] <sexbox> so nobody has any ideas?
[02:09] <dejx> where to set
[02:09] <dejx> username in xchat
[02:09] <LjL> raj: i haven't a clue, try asking in #suse i guess
[02:10] <raj> tkns
[02:11] <estudiante> franklin
[02:11] <bokey> sexbox, kbd-config
[02:11] <estudiante> q
[02:11] <estudiante> q
[02:11] <sexbox> ?
[02:11] <sexbox> i messed with that every way i could see
[02:11] <sexbox> but nothing made the keyboard work
[02:12] <auTONYmous> I'm back
[02:12] <bokey> sexbox, try from your shell, kbd-config
[02:12] <sexbox> from what? lol
[02:12] <sexbox> im a noob
[02:12] <bamzin> hi there
[02:12] <bokey> sexbox, press ALT+F2
[02:12] <sexbox> the keyboard wont actually work at all in the OS...
[02:12] <sexbox> im on windows right now.. trying to dual boot with ubuntu to give linux a try
[02:12] <bokey> sexbox, geez... can you do that via copy paste ?
[02:13] <bokey> sexbox, Winblows is none of my problem!
[02:13] <sexbox> press alt+f2 via copy paste? lol
[02:13] <sexbox> its not windows that is the problem
[02:13] <sexbox> its linux
[02:13] <bamzin> i'm having some trouble while trying to run a ubuntu5.10 livecd. when loading it freezes on 'starting hotplug system'. kubuntu works fine, no problem on the same laptop. anyone know how to solve this?
[02:13] <sexbox> my keyboard works just damn fine in windows without having to configure anything or whatever
[02:13] <sexbox> i try using my keyboard in ubuntu and it doesnt work..
[02:13] <xipietotec> bamzin: try using a more recently live cd, the hardware detection is often better
[02:14] <bokey> sexbox, open up xterm somehow. then copy this "kbd-config" and paste it in your console.
[02:14] <xipietotec> also, make sure your disk isn't scratched
[02:14] <LjL> sexbox: what kind of keyboard is that?
[02:14] <sexbox> now to look up what xterm is
[02:14] <sexbox> i tried 2
[02:14] <bamzin> xipietotec, so it may work on 6.10? i hope so, i'm downloading this but it takes a lot of time :) thanks!
[02:14] <sexbox> i tried just a generic brand keyboard with all the standard keys
[02:14] <bokey> sexbox, ALT+F2. then copy "xterm". then copy "kbd-config" then paste. how hard is that for a n00b ?
[02:14] <LjL> sexbox: USB or PS/2?
[02:14] <sexbox> and then i tried an HP keyboard i have
[02:14] <sexbox> ps/2
[02:15] <IntuitiveNipple> Haha! Just fixed the problem with Firestarter firewall blocking Multisync sync-ing with PDAs
[02:15] <auTONYmous> IntuitiveNipple: Good job!
[02:15] <cyros> sexbox: it didnt work with another keyboard ps/2 or usb
[02:15] <LjL> sexbox: try pressing Alt+F2 in Linux as suggested, and see if the keyboard works from there (that'll switch you to a text-mode terminal). if it works there, it means the problem is confined to X
[02:15] <sexbox> no, i tried 2 of them
[02:15] <IntuitiveNipple> been bugging for a day that has
[02:15] <sexbox> how can i press alt+f2?
[02:15] <cyros> lol
[02:15] <sexbox> if the keyboard doesnt work
[02:16] <cyros> think about it real hard and it will happen
[02:16] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: what was the fix?
[02:16] <auTONYmous> IntuitiveNipple: local (USB) or wifi/bluetooth sync?
[02:16] <sexbox> let me just go ahead and do that :-)
[02:16] <edmont> hi
[02:16] <cyros> is there a virtual keyboard in ubuntu?
[02:16] <IntuitiveNipple> I'm just posting it to the forums - I'll give you a URL in a moment
[02:16] <lobstu> how can i empty a file out from the command line?
[02:16] <IntuitiveNipple> auTONYmous: Well this is USB but any connection that gets given IPs will be sorted by this
[02:17] <LjL> sexbox: just try, it might work, it's a special key combination. but actually, it's Ctrl+Alt+F2, sorry. or you can try booting in recovery mode, that'll skip out X entirely
[02:17] <cyros> keyboard works fine in windows and at the post screen and bios?
[02:17] <sexbox> it works for everything but on the actual os
[02:17] <sexbox> im running from the cd
[02:17] <edmont> any idea of how to solve this? http://www.flickr.com/photos/22431916@N00/352725909/
[02:18] <sexbox> just when i get on ubuntu itself the keyboard.. its like it freezes
[02:18] <sexbox> for example, the num-lock light is on
[02:18] <sexbox> but you cant turn it off
[02:18] <sexbox> you cant type
[02:18] <xipietotec>  edmont: install the icon packs?
[02:18] <sexbox> or anything like that
[02:18] <cyros> weird
[02:18] <LjL> sexbox: mouse works?
[02:18] <Nick2> .........
[02:18] <sexbox> yes
[02:18] <sexbox> mouse works fine
[02:18] <bokey> lobstu, is your problem solved ?
[02:19] <edmont> xipietotec: how icons will fix fonts?
[02:19] <lobstu> bokey no
[02:19] <auTONYmous> sexbox: is that a desktop or a laptop?
[02:19] <cyros> did u try going through the settings with the mouse maybe u can select a different keyboard
[02:19] <sexbox> desktop
[02:19] <bokey> lobstu, easiest way. cat > that_file_name.txt, then press control-d
[02:19] <xipietotec> edmont: sorry, font packs
[02:20] <lobstu> thanks bokey :)
[02:20] <edmont> xipietotec: i dont know which one i have to install
[02:20] <LjL> sexbox: which version of Ubuntu is this by the way?
[02:20] <bokey> lobstu, okie.
[02:20] <auTONYmous> I'm thinking reboot, single mode, <test keyboard, if works, continue, if not stop>, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" check keyboard type
[02:21] <bokey> auTONYmous, no need for that. dpkg-reconfigure console-data should do fine.
[02:21] <LjL> auTONYmous: i was going to suggest that, but i think he's running from the Desktop CD
[02:21] <auTONYmous> okay
[02:21] <xipietotec> edmont: try all of them
[02:21] <sexbox> the latest
[02:21] <auTONYmous> Oh, a LiveCD not picking up PS/2...
[02:22] <auTONYmous> interesting
[02:22] <sexbox> 6.10 or whatever it is..
[02:22] <sexbox> i dont find it interesting :-P
[02:22] <kauer> anyone know if genius314 got his USB wireless working yesterday?
[02:22] <bokey> sexbox, then you should go back to windows.
[02:22] <bokey> sexbox, or rather winblows
[02:22] <sexbox> lol
[02:23] <sexbox> be nice now
[02:23] <LjL> yeah, do be please
[02:23] <sexbox> or microsoft will unleash its very expensive assassains to kill you in your sleep
[02:24] <LjL> no, you'll simply be removed from the channel, because we don't appreciate that sort of attitude
[02:24] <auTONYmous> sexbox: you mean" or microsoft will unleash its very expensive ATTORNEYS to kill you in your sleep
[02:24] <sexbox> there is a difference?
[02:24] <cyros> sexbox: did u try going through the settings with the mouse maybe u can select a different keyboard
[02:25] <sexbox> im mostly going to linux because i don't support the kinda garbage they are doing with vista that ive been reading about
[02:25] <bokey> sexbox, good. u are improving.
[02:25] <LjL> sexbox: you can positively confirm that your Ubuntu graphical interface itself works, anyway? i.e. with the mouse you can do actions, start programs and all?
[02:25] <lotacus> hey, so i've installed the ati drivers, but in the package manager, I see xserver-xorg-video-ati which was installed with ubuntu, do I remove this package?
[02:25] <sexbox> what do you mean select a different keyboard?
[02:25] <sexbox> yes
[02:25] <cyros> XGL > Aero
[02:25] <sexbox> i was playing blackjack
[02:25] <sexbox> and such
[02:26] <auTONYmous> lotacus: you don't HAVE to, until you can confirm fgrlx is working...I leave it installed for disasters
[02:26] <lotacus> ok
[02:26] <lotacus> on with the guide then
[02:26] <lotacus> heh
[02:26] <sexbox> by selecting a different keyboard do you mean the menu where you can choose the brand/model keyboard you have?
[02:26] <LjL> sexbox: this is a weird problem tbh, i don't think i've ever seen it before. i'm aware of widespread problems with keyboards like the system missing keystrokes or repeating them, but never the keyboard being totally unresponsive
[02:26] <sexbox> i tried all that and messed with all of those settings
[02:26] <cyros> yea
[02:26] <miranda82> hello
[02:27] <cyros> did this just happen? or its been like this since u installed?
[02:27] <mneptok> sexbox: PS/2 or USB?
[02:27] <miranda82> is there anyway to see dmesg output in real time?
[02:27] <LjL> PS/2 mneptok
[02:27] <LjL> cyros, live CD
[02:27] <sexbox> just wont work at all unfortunately. i thought this was supposed to be the big second coming of christ amazing windows replacement
[02:27] <sexbox> ps/2
[02:27] <johns^> sexbox: any change your pc is some kind of small formfactor HP?
[02:27] <sexbox> small formfactor?
[02:27] <`rich> miranda82-  watch -d2 dmesg  <-- that will run dmesg every 2 secs for you ... not sure if it can be fully real time though.
[02:27] <sexbox> you mean those stupid mini pc's?
[02:27] <LjL> sexbox: small case
[02:27] <mneptok> sexbox: are there any BIOS settings that would disable the PS/2 port?
[02:27] <auTONYmous> sexbox: a "little box"
[02:28] <miranda82> thx!!!
[02:28] <sexbox> its a microatx motherboard but its not one of those super tiny ones
[02:28] <auTONYmous> mneptok: It works fine in Winblows...
[02:28] <mneptok> auTONYmous: yeah, and .... ?
[02:28] <zazou> bonjour
[02:28] <LjL> !fr | zazou
[02:28] <ubotu> zazou: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:29] <auTONYmous> mneptok: So, sexbox hasn't disabled it in the BIOS
[02:29] <n2diy> miranda82: I think dmesg only logs during boot, realtime stuff is being generated in logs. You can use the "tail" program to see realtime logging.
[02:29] <sexbox> clearly not
[02:29] <sexbox> or i wouldnt be typing now :-P
[02:29] <mneptok> auTONYmous: that's not what i asked ;)
[02:29] <sexbox> and i wouldnt be able to navigate the bios
[02:29] <miranda82> n2diy, tail does not do real time
[02:29] <LjL> auTONYmous: well, might not be conclusive proof, since perhaps Windows bypasses the BIOS and Linux doesn't (though i doubt it)
[02:29] <johns^> sexbox: i've had problems with a small hp desktop and keyboards. just didn't work
[02:29] <n2diy> miranda82: yes does.
[02:30] <LjL> sexbox: perhaps if you have a USB keyboard hanging around...
[02:30] <auTONYmous> dont' shoot the messenger...I'm just repeating sexbox's answers for those who missed all the previous questions
[02:30] <sexbox> nope, i could get one of those little adapter things probably though
[02:30] <miranda82> n2diy, so, how would i do it?
[02:30] <sexbox> im sure a friend has one
[02:30] <mneptok> sexbox: i can assure you that what Windows does with the BIOS and what Linux does are not mirror imaged behaviors
[02:30] <LjL> sexbox: hm, i think adapters are USB *to* PS/2 most of the times, though i could be wrong
[02:30] <IntuitiveNipple> Here's that Multisync/firestarter fix: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1993106&postcount=156
[02:30] <n2diy> miranda82: google for "tail -f" and logs, I'm going to do the same.
[02:30] <`rich> oh oh, tail -f?
[02:30] <`rich> damnit, too slow
[02:30] <cyros> damn i dunno what could be doing that
[02:30] <sexbox> they have the oppisite though dont they?
[02:31] <miranda82> n2diy, thx
[02:31] <sexbox> i swear ive seen em
[02:31] <sexbox> you know what, ill be going out this morning anyways
[02:31] <sexbox> ill go to tiger direct and pick up a new keyboard to test it out
[02:31] <sexbox> can never have too many anyways i guess
[02:31] <mneptok> sexbox: i would take a long look at BIOS I/O device settings, and also try toggling the "PnP OS" setting if you have one
[02:32] <LjL> sexbox: i've never seen them, but that doesn't mean they don't exist :) well before just buying a new keyboard i'd investigate it a little more, after all if it won't work with a USB keyboard either, you'll basically just have wasted money
[02:32] <sexbox> keyboards are like 5 bucks at tiger direct
[02:32] <sexbox> lol
[02:32] <mneptok> sexbox: also, boot the LiveCD and ensure the PS/2 kybd port is in the hardware profile Ubuntu generates
[02:32] <sexbox> id probably spend just as much on the adapter
[02:32] <sexbox> where do i see the hardware profile?
[02:33] <sexbox> ive never used linux before today
[02:33] <sexbox> ive seen people use it but thats about the scope of my experience
[02:33] <Syntax_Error> hmmm, how can i have aclocal under edgy?
[02:34] <n2diy> miranda82: take a look a look at this. http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/~jusub/unix-hints-and-hacks/19270056.htm
[02:34] <miranda82> n2diy, yeah, i'm on it, real thx
[02:34] <lotacus> ok rebooted
[02:34] <lotacus> did glxinfo and still see messa in there
[02:35] <n2diy> miranda82: nada
[02:35] <mneptok> sexbox: System -> Admin -> Device Manager
[02:35] <auTONYmous> lotacus: did you do the steps involved with blacklisting the module?
[02:35] <lotacus> yea
[02:35] <sexbox> maybe ill just watch myspace.cum now
[02:35] <auTONYmous> pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log for me
[02:36] <lotacus> how do I pastebin?
[02:36] <christopher_l> I bought a mini wireless keyboard with touchpad, the device manager finds it, but it's not working,
[02:36] <christopher_l> anyone? It's a http://www.amitech.dk/.
[02:36] <sexbox> anyone ever watch myspace.cum? im wondering if its any good
[02:36] <sexbox> how about rectal rooter 6?
[02:36] <auTONYmous> !pastbin|lotacus
[02:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:36] <auTONYmous> !pastebin|lotacus
[02:36] <ubotu> lotacus: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:37] <sexbox> k, time to go try this out again.. for the last time.. before i pick a different distro
[02:37] <Dimensions> Hiya can we install Ubuntu on Mac mini as standalone ????
[02:37] <miranda82> n2diy, tail -f /var/log/kern.log did the trick ;)
[02:37] <n2diy> miranda82: cool!
[02:38] <lotacus> auTONYmous: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1052/
[02:38] <bokey> miranda82, watch -n1 tail /var/log/<anything_you_want_watch>
[02:40] <lunaphyte_> why would it occasionally take much longer (~60 seconds) to stop/start apache?
[02:40] <Balsamic_Chicken> omg omg how could i enhance OpenOffice Word's thesaurus, it's a piece of crap right now =(
[02:41] <Dimensions> guys can some one pls tell me how do i install Ubuntu on Mac Ox without Mac Os
[02:41] <keegan> hi: when using sudo and trying to open a file with gedit i get an error:  cannot open display: (null) - is this some protection or is there a problem. it works fine when i use it as a user
[02:42] <n2diy> keegan: try gksudo
[02:42] <lotacus> i get that too but it still opens with write priviledges for me
[02:43] <lotacus> oh
[02:43] <lotacus> and when I run glxgears I get the error Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:43] <lotacus> but it still runs./
[02:44] <auTONYmous> lotacus: Nuts...I think you're stuck...third-party board, not original ATI
[02:44] <auTONYmous> lotacus: the driver doesn't recognize your PCI ID, so it's not loading
[02:44] <CPF_> Hi guys, question, how do I create from three files (someting.001, something.002, something.003) one file (which is the intention)??
[02:44] <lotacus> :S
[02:45] <lotacus> wtf. nvidia says the x1600 series is supported
[02:45] <lotacus> er ATI *
[02:45] <marw|jobb> irc.daxnet.no
[02:45] <auTONYmous> lotacus: No, wait...scratch that. fglrx IS loading, DRI isn't
[02:45] <auTONYmous> paste you xorg.conf
[02:46] <lotacus> ok
[02:46] <cyros> oh sweet ubuntu 6.10 looks nice
[02:46] <cyros> :)
[02:46] <CPF_> cyros: it is nice ^^
[02:47] <iwkse> hi all, how's called the keyboard shortcut app in gnome?
[02:47] <cyros> well i guess its really gnome what u guys know what i mean
[02:47] <CPF_> iwkse: gnome-keyboard-properties
[02:47] <iwkse> CPF_: thanks
[02:47] <CPF_> iwkse: np :)
[02:47] <bokey> CPF_, cat something.* > onebigfile. i feel itchi ? :)
[02:48] <keegan> n2diy:  gksudo and gksu give this error (gksu:19147): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:  do i need to have gedit in /usr/sbin
[02:48] <cyros> to change the root pw its in users right?
[02:49] <iwkse> CPF_: do you know in which package is in?
[02:49] <IntuitiveNipple> Bloody bugs in Evolution Contacts>Birthdays now, grrr - keeps on adding 100 years to a date!!
[02:49] <lotacus> auTONYmouse: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1053/
[02:49] <bokey> CPF_, itchi ?
[02:49] <n2diy> keegan: I'm not sure, did you move it?
[02:50] <cyros> hmm so if i could change the PW with my user account what stops someone else from doing that who has access
[02:50] <lotacus> at least i'm getting furthar than I did when using SUSE
[02:51] <n2diy> keegan: mine is in /usr/bin, on Ubuntu 6.06
[02:51] <CPF_> bokey: uhm... Dunno... The prob is that the third file isn't yet downloaded ^^
[02:51] <CPF_> bokey: someone did tell me that it is most likely HJsplit...
[02:52] <johan_> I'm having trouble loging on to the forum. As I try to log in, it welcomes me but then just throws me back to the "please login" screen. Any ideas of how to actually log on to the forum?
[02:53] <keegan> n2diy:  yes mine too. But does yours work when u sudo . or does it give u an error
[02:53] <bokey> CPF_, okie
[02:53] <n2diy> keegan: I was using it without any trouble, an our or so ago. I was editting network files with it.
[02:54] <n2diy> our/hour
[02:54] <magic_stone> Hello
[02:54] <magic_stone> Someone knows if the ubuntu amd64 version is gicving problems whith instalation of firefox normal ....
[02:54] <magic_stone> and the beta version
[02:55] <keegan> hmm may be ill reload gedit.
[02:55] <magic_stone> because is 32 bits
[02:55] <magic_stone> and not 64 bits when we download the browser from the mozilla
[02:55] <Jaus> Hi, wich command do I need to see wich port is used for X program?
[02:56] <phr34ck> hey, how can I remove the thumbnail view for .pdf files?
[02:56] <phr34ck> I don't want to see a thumbnail, I want it to look like a .txt icon.
[02:56] <n2diy> Jaus: Why would X be using a port?
[02:57] <bokey> Jaus, netstat -anp | less will show what process uses what port if that's what you mean.
[02:57] <lotacus> dipity do da
[02:57] <lotacus> you still looking at it?
[02:57] <auTONYmous> lotacus: read your pm's...
[02:57] <Jaus> n2diy:
[02:57] <Jaus> but, netstat -putan does not show, the command that runs on this port
[02:58] <bokey> phr34ck, what window manager is it ? gnome ?
[02:58] <kalleth> hi guys - i'm using the ubuntu 6.10 install cd and whenever i try and boot ubuntu from the CD i get to the menu that lets me select 'Start or Install Ubuntu' and hit it, then i see the 'Loading Linux Kernel' box which gets to 100%, and then my pc just restarts without doing anything... any ideas?
[02:58] <phr34ck> bokey, yeah, gnome
[02:58] <stmaher> Hello everyone.. How come when i type the quota command i get garbage output on my terminal
[02:58] <stmaher> any ideas?
[02:59] <bokey> phr34ck, so assuming it's nautilus ?
[02:59] <phr34ck> bokey, I guess so .. I don't know about these stuff.
[02:59] <m_Ahsan> Check the compatibiliy list
[02:59] <Dimensions> Hi, i have a Ubutnu Mac mini question ....  i want to install Ubuntu and remove any thing else now i am not sure the new Mac with INten Duo will just boot with Installation cd of Ubuntu and install straight away or not ...right here i have one mac mini but have installed dual boot Ubuntu and it booted with install window on Eiif window option ... i donno how will it react one those ones ... ( im sorry but i dont have rest of macs they will
[02:59] <m_Ahsan> the HCL is there online on the net
[02:59] <kalleth> i can't even do a check CD for errors because as soon as it gets to 100% the screen goes black and it reboots - i've had ubuntu working on this hardware before and XP is already installed on it working perfectly
[02:59] <phr34ck> bokey, yes It's nautilus .. is there anything else that does nautilus job?
[02:59] <phr34ck> !nautilus
[02:59] <ubotu> nautilus: file manager and graphical shell for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 586 kB, installed size 1424 kB
[03:00] <m_Ahsan> Always check the hardware before installing or running the linux
[03:00] <bokey> phr34ck, ok good. open up nautilus and muck around edit > preference.
[03:00] <kalleth> m_Ahsan: i've had ubuntu working on this hardware before
[03:00] <Keneo> I'm trying to install beryl on dapper using this howto http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Dapper_with_AIGLX, but I get stuck @ sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-air-core linux-dri-modules-common linux-dri-modules-`uname -r`
[03:00] <phr34ck> bokey, okay.
[03:00] <m_Ahsan> Ok so have got info about your H/w
[03:00] <kalleth> let me boot to doze
[03:01] <Keneo> there is no linux-dri-modules for my kernel
[03:01] <n2diy> phr34ck: check out Midnight Commander.
[03:01] <kalleth> dual p3 500mhz on an oldish board
[03:01] <m_Ahsan> Mmm.
[03:01] <phr34ck> n2diy, will try mate.
[03:01] <m_Ahsan> Let me think...
[03:01] <bokey> !dri
[03:01] <ubotu> dri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.
[03:01] <Keneo> E: Couldn't find package linux-dri-modules-2.6.15-27-k7
[03:01] <kalleth> cirrus logic 5480 compat. VGA
[03:01] <kalleth> which the prev. version of ubuntu (when i had it set up) recognised fine
[03:01] <bokey> Keneo, amd ?
[03:02] <phr34ck> bokey, there is no option for the pdf files.
[03:02] <torpor> hi all .. running ubuntu quite happily here .. what is the recommended method for administering SAMBA shares on a default ubuntu install?  i want my ubuntu laptop to share the folders of all the users i've got on it (two) with my powerbook .. is there some way to easily do this with a base ubuntu install?
[03:02] <kalleth> m_Ahsan
[03:02] <kalleth> what do you want to know?
[03:03] <Keneo> bokey,  yes
[03:03] <gnomefreak> Keneo: isnt the dri module in the restricted modules package?
[03:03] <Keneo> I added the right repo to my apt sources
[03:04] <Sapote> hello people!  cant see reset or poweroff button in gnome. Only can make poweroff or reset in console (as same user of login gdm) typing as user halt or reboot
[03:04] <Keneo> deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org dapper main
[03:04] <Keneo> should be in here no?
[03:04] <gnomefreak> Keneo: #ubuntu-xgl
[03:04] <Keneo> thx
[03:04] <gnomefreak> yw
[03:05] <m_Ahsan> Hay did anyone worked on blackbox window manager
[03:05] <Sapote> i use edgy, some idea?
[03:05] <lotacus> oh i think that worked
[03:05] <lotacus> :D
[03:05] <torpor> is there no easy to use samba exports/shares tool in ubuntu?  i just want my regular user account homedirs to be accessible from a mac ..
[03:05] <eilker> hi, could someone teach me LVM simply ? i dont understand it:(
[03:05] <bokey> Keneo, what about binary drivers ?
[03:05] <LiteWait> hey all...is there a simple way to update ubuntu to deal with all media formats like mp3, wmv, flash, shockwave, mpeg, etc?  Tried easyubuntu (errors installing packages) and automatix to no avail (I am on 6.06)
[03:05] <eilker> !LVM
[03:05] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[03:05] <Sapote> mac is very poor authentifation...
[03:06] <Keneo> how do you mean bokey?
[03:06] <Sapote> ifconfig eth0 down   ifconfig eth0 hw ether NE:WM:AC:AD:DR:ES   ifconfig eth0 up
[03:07] <sladen> kalleth: sounds like a duff/damaged CD
[03:07] <susscorfa> !restricted | LiteWait
[03:07] <ubotu> LiteWait: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:07] <susscorfa> maybe you can find something there LiteWait
[03:07] <bokey> Keneo, it's been discussed @ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=305665
[03:08] <Keneo> thx bokey
[03:08] <sladen> Dimensions: the mactel Mini will boot from i386 CD if you use boot camp
[03:08] <Keneo> euhm, bokey? I use dapper and hava an nvidia card
[03:09] <LiteWait> susscorfa/ubotu thank you both.  last question can I "upgrade" 6.06 to 6.10 ... or do I need to re-install?
[03:09] <Guest500> did any knows about alpha server
[03:10] <Guest500> Is Ubuntu compatible with alpha servers
[03:11] <Guest500> :)what about the Compaq Alpha server running on Ubuntu
[03:11] <susscorfa> LiteWait: i my self had some problems with updating but i was quite early so i don't know if it has inproved and how it went for others (i had quite some ajust ments like xgl install
[03:11] <susscorfa> !update | LiteWait
[03:11] <ubotu> LiteWait: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:12] <webben> Can anyone help me get "raise on click" to work with metacity. At the moment all i can get it to do is raise windows when i click on their title bar.
[03:12] <Guest500> is it necessary to put all the data in /usr/local
[03:12] <Guest500> directory
[03:15] <sahin_w> Can somebody offer me a good gtk based diff utility? I tried meld, but it's slow for big files.
[03:16] <cappiz> how do i change the default web browser?
[03:16] <sahin_w> I tried mgdiff, but is to simple. No merge funcionality for example.
[03:16] <IdleOne> cappiz: System > Prefs > Preffered Apps
[03:16] <LiteWait> ubotu ... thanks again.... new to ubuntu, didn't realize upgrading was that easy :-)
[03:16] <phr34ck> Any good file managers out there? I just found out that I can change that !
[03:17] <`rich> LiteWait-  ubotu is a bot, but i'm sure he appreciates your thanks ;)
[03:17] <cappiz> thanks :)
[03:17] <edmont> hi
[03:17] <phr34ck> so nautilus is the default file manager of Gnome, correct ?
[03:17] <IdleOne> LiteWait: it is easy to do but no garanties it will work out well
[03:17] <IdleOne> LiteWait: I didnt have any problems besides having to reconfigure xorg
[03:17] <edmont> i've got a problem with the fonts in ubuntu
[03:17] <phr34ck> edmont, don't we all ? *winks* ....
[03:18] <edmont> here is a picture of how i see them: http://www.flickr.com/photos/22431916@N00/352725909/
[03:18] <edmont> as far as i know it happens with gnome and gtk programs like gaim
[03:18] <kalleth> argh
[03:19] <edmont> but not with firefox or skype
[03:19] <edmont> do u know how can i fix it?
[03:19] <qos> hey guys ... does anyone know how to tell wine to start any programms/games in a window instead of switching to fullscreen?
[03:19] <phr34ck> edmont, did you try changing the font ?
[03:20] <max1> Hey I've got a security question: why is not secure to put root (".") into your path variable?
[03:20] <edmont> phr34ck: i tried in that screen of the piucture, but with the same result
[03:21] <phr34ck> erm, that's very weird.
[03:21] <halorgium> max1: then if there is an executable call ls in the cwd which trashes stuff, it could get run before /bin/ls
[03:22] <bulmer> halorgium: he didnt ask if it was 1st in the path
[03:22] <edmont> btw, do u know a web based client to access freenode so i dont have to use windows?
[03:22] <max1> halorgium: what is cwd?
[03:22] <halorgium> bulmer: which is why i said 'could'
[03:23] <max1> halorgium: it's for my linux exam later today, but I can't find a descent explanation..
[03:23] <riotkittie> edmont: chatzilla plugin for firefox?
[03:24] <max1> halorgium: I understand that someone could run a bad executable as root, but should it be first in $PATH then?
[03:24] <bulmer> maax1: cwd  is not a command, it meant current working directory
[03:24] <auTONYmous> edmont: You mean something you can use on Linux?
[03:25] <Roy> hello
[03:25] <edmont> auTONYmous: yes
[03:25] <auTONYmous> edmont: x-chat
[03:25] <riotkittie> irssi
[03:25] <auTONYmous> and many others...
[03:25] <qos> does anyone know how to tell wine to start any programms/games in a window instead of switching to fullscreen?
[03:25] <edmont> auTONYmous: but note the problem i have with the fonts
[03:25] <edmont> http://www.flickr.com/photos/22431916@N00/352725909/
[03:26] <auTONYmous> ouch.
[03:26] <edmont> i usually use gaim, but now i cannt
[03:27] <auTONYmous> edmont: that just happened, or have your fonts always been screwed?
[03:27] <riotkittie> ooh whats    wrongg with my keeeeyboardd
[03:27] <Roy> can anybody tell me how can i change the resolution of my video from 2024X768 to 1280X1024? because i had  just did it in the xorg.conf and nothing
[03:27] <riotkittie> ewwww. it keepsss randomly repeating lettters
[03:27] <auTONYmous> riotkittie: too bad drinking and typing isn't illegal...
[03:27] <max1> bulmer: So a good answer would be: If root is in the path variable, anyone could run a harmfull executable in any given working directory which will be executed as 'root' because root is in the variable.
[03:27] <edmont> auTONYmous: it happened while i was trying to install gtkpod from the source
[03:28] <riotkittie> auTONYmous: im sober ;p
[03:28] <Azim> !help
[03:28] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:28] <baK\G> hey, i'v got one noobish question :) please tell me how to change dysplay resolution in login screen when i'm asked about name\pass?
[03:28] <auTONYmous> riotkittie: so you spilled wine on the kbd...IT's drunk!
[03:28] <LjL> baK\G: the way i know is sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[03:28] <bulmer> max1: umm i dont think its called "root is in the path variable".  "." meant the current working directory
[03:28] <max1> bulmer: Will it be executed as root or is it just dangerous because it could chanhe things in the root directory?
[03:28] <kalleth> nobody got any ideas on my phantom reboot? :(
[03:29] <Roy> can anybody tell me how can i change the resolution of my video from 2024X768 to 1280X1024? because i had  just did it in the xorg.conf and nothing
[03:29] <apokryphos> baK\G: you could also just remove all other resolution options apart from the one you want
[03:29] <LjL> Ubotu, tell baK\G about fixres | baK\G, see the private message from Ubotu
[03:29] <bulmer> max1: and it would not be executed as root
[03:29] <kalleth> i'm using the ubuntu 6.10 install cd and whenever i try and boot ubuntu from the CD i get to the menu that lets me select 'Start or Install Ubuntu' and hit it, then i see the 'Loading Linux Kernel' box which gets to 100%, and then my pc just restarts without doing anything...
[03:29] <edmont> auTONYmous: i was following these instructions: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=114946
[03:29] <baK\G> okay guys. thanks
[03:29] <kalleth> i've tried using the acpi=off flag on the F6 advanced boot menu too
[03:29] <Slart> I have a mobile phone connected to my computer via bluetooth. Does it get mapped into some kind of device in the dev-tree?
[03:30] <riotkittie> Roy: did you restart X after editing the confiig?
[03:30] <Malachi> Can I safely delete the /var/log/ directory? I tried to delete a 2G directory, but something happened, and now the /var/log/access_log is now 3.6G, and I have 40MB of disk space...
[03:30] <Roy> yes
[03:30] <pl_ice> guys how do i check whats on the PCI Bus? my ATI seems not to work any more... lspci?
[03:30] <Roy> yes riotkittie
[03:30] <bulmer> max1: what it meant is, if you have a "bad" script in the current directory with similar name to a bash command, it may get executed first before the real bash command
[03:30] <kalleth> what happens is it loads initrd.gz and then as soon as that file has loaded completely the system goes to a flashing cursor after a clear screen then after about 2 seconds the system reboots
[03:31] <Roy> y change my xorg.conf and put the display 1050 and  1280 after the 1024 but nothing
[03:32] <kalleth> nobody? :(
[03:32] <riotkittie> brb reeeeboot   because this is drriving    me insaneeee
[03:32] <Kristov> hi
[03:32] <Roy> when open the login windows the display its in 1280X1024 thats good, but, when chage to the splash mode it change automaticly to 1024X768
[03:33] <Roy> im already rebooting and everithing i got that problem since before yesterday
[03:33] <Malachi> Roy: Was that yes for my question?
[03:33] <Roy> yes jeje sorry
[03:33] <Roy> ho no malachi
[03:33] <Roy> letme read it
[03:34] <Mikey> right guys, i have a problem, RT2500 wifi card keeps disconnecting, and crashing ubuntu, unless i unplug in it time
[03:34] <[BTF] Chm0d> morning all i was wondering if anyone could help me with my xorg.  my resolution is set at 1600X1200 at 50hz which really sucks.  I really don't like my resolution that high anyways but when I change it to anything other than this the screen is huge any suggestions?
[03:34] <murrayc> Does anyone know of any PCI or USB wifi card that actually works out-the-box without nsdiswrapper?
[03:34] <max1> bulmer: I get it, if he calls f.e. program 'ls' made by a hacker, in the directory where the hacker made it, because "." is in $PATH it will be executed a a script before the real ls command will be executed
[03:34] <kalleth> bah
[03:34] <kalleth> back to windows then
[03:34] <Roy> malachi no your questions it was about something else not mine
[03:34] <kalleth> :|
[03:35] <IcarusLost> Does anyone know of an applet for xfce that will display the signal strength, ap, essid, etc for wireless networks?
[03:35] <malachi_> Sorry, Roy, disconnected.
[03:35] <bulmer> max1: only if the "." is 1st in the $PATH
[03:36] <Roy> malachi no your questions it was about something else not mine
[03:36] <max1> bulmer:ok, otherwise it wil lfind the usr/sbin for ls first
[03:36] <max1> bulmer: thanks
[03:36] <bulmer> max1: yes
[03:36] <DesertEagle> hello all
[03:37] <Holraven> Hi all! Any people here with experience in PPC Ubuntu?
[03:37] <bulmer> max1: you have an exam today? figure this out, how you delete files with "*" or special chars on its name
[03:38] <beezly> bulmer: \*
[03:38] <DesertEagle> just like if it has a space char
[03:38] <bulmer> beezly: not me, am just quizzing max1
[03:38] <Roy> can anybody tell me how can i change the display resolution of my video from 1024X768 to 1280X1024? because i had  just tryng change it on my xorg.conf but nothing happend, when open the login windows the display its in 1280X1024 thats good, but, when chage to the splash mode it change automaticly to 1024X768 im already rebooting and everithing i got that problem since before yesterday
[03:38] <IcarusLost> can someone help me with scp?
[03:38] <beezly> bulmer: oh right
[03:38] <IcarusLost> i cant get the syntax right
[03:38] <Kristov> bbl
[03:38] <beezly> max1: here's a good one - how do you delete a file with a "-" at the beginning :)
[03:39] <DesertEagle> Roy: much easier to go through the apt reconfigure deal
[03:39] <Roy> apt reconfigure deal? in a terminal?
[03:40] <DesertEagle> could someone help me out with gfxboot? grub just won't display they pretty screen
[03:40] <pluto> for install just one cd?
[03:40] <Roy> deserteagle apt reconfigure deal? in the terminal?
[03:40] <DesertEagle> yes
[03:40] <Roy> ok letme se
[03:40] <DesertEagle> it'll launch an old school looking configuration panel
[03:40] <DesertEagle> wait no
[03:41] <pluto> DesertEagle: yes --  my answer?
[03:41] <max1> bulmer: so to delete file 'script*' ,should I type: rm script\* ?
[03:41] <DesertEagle> don't just type "apt reconfigure deal"
[03:41] <DesertEagle> pluto: i have no clue what you asked :P
[03:41] <Roy> haa how i have to typeing?
[03:41] <pluto> haha
[03:41] <Holraven> Noone with PPC-experience? I'm running Ubuntu 6.10 on an iBook G3 and I'm stuck on a few issues...
[03:41] <Roy> typng?
[03:41] <pluto> sorry
[03:42] <max1> beezly: mmm... rm ...  I don't know
[03:42] <max1> beezly: :-)
[03:42] <DesertEagle> Roy: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=113371&page=2
[03:42] <gorski> how to search files on the file system?
[03:42] <DesertEagle> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:42] <Roy> deserteagle  how should i had to writing it?
[03:42] <Roy> ha ok deserteagle sorry
[03:42] <DesertEagle> Roy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:43] <kazim59> hello all
[03:43] <DesertEagle> np
[03:43] <kazim59> what to do when the audio device is locked by some program i don't know? I get the error "Cannot open the audio device. In use"
[03:43] <FactTech> Quick question: Does anyone know who to contact about fixing errors on the ubuntu.com website? There's an undesirable line break in the first bullet point under "Will I have to pay taxes/duties?" at http://www.ubuntu.com/support/faq
[03:43] <DesertEagle> i'm having issues with configuring grub to do pretty screens
[03:43] <FactTech> It doesn't seem to be a wiki or I'd do it myself.
[03:44] <gorski> how to search files?
[03:44] <DesertEagle> i went through the wiki but still won't show the screen :(
[03:44] <kazim59> how to free /dev/dsp?
[03:44] <max1> beezly: what are the solutions for both problems?
[03:44] <DesertEagle> gorski: locate whateverfileyourlookingfor
[03:44] <qmf> is there a command that will echo my system specs?
[03:45] <kazim59> it says "Cannot open the audio device. Another application may be using it"
[03:45] <kazim59> how do i free my audio device???
[03:45] <barata> hi all, I have a question
[03:45] <gorski> can i do it in gui?
[03:45] <DesertEagle> gorski: nope, there may be some other app for that
[03:46] <gorski> ok, tnx
[03:46] <FactTech> barata - What's your question?
[03:46] <barata> I have4 partitions 15-15-40-40GB .... now, I wanna make the 1st 30GB to be 5-20GB
[03:47] <barata> what is the best way to do that rather than moving evertyhing & then repartition?
[03:47] <JudasHimself> i've been looking for a theme that allows you to set the borders and title bars to transparent
[03:47] <JudasHimself> anyone know of one?
[03:47] <barata> anybody ever meets that kind of issue/need?
[03:48] <Enverex> barata, You can move the end of a partition but not the start
[03:48] <Roy> mmm se me olvido como actualizar klos repos sudo apt get update?
[03:48] <Roy> o aptitude update?
[03:48] <IdleOne> Roy: sudo apt-get update
[03:48] <DesertEagle> Roy: creo que es lo mismo
[03:48] <barata> the end would be non issue Enverex .... but what I need is the first 2
[03:48] <gorski> is there a similar program like tvtime?
[03:48] <IdleOne> roy apt-get o aptitude los dos sirven
[03:49] <IdleOne> !es
[03:49] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:49] <Khaldion> Hello guys, I have a problem to get my ubuntu wlan working. I've got ubuntu 6.06 and my laptop is amilo m7440g I have IPW 2200 BG drivers.
[03:49] <Roy> roy@daunbuntu:~$ sudo apt-get update
[03:49] <Roy> E: Falta el directorio de listas /var/lib/apt/lists/partial.
[03:49] <Roy> roy@daunbuntu:~$
[03:49] <Roy>  me sale eso
[03:49] <Roy> fatal el directorio de listas
[03:49] <Khaldion>  Hello guys, I have a problem to get my ubuntu wlan working. I've got ubuntu 6.06 and my laptop is amilo m7440g I have IPW 2200 BG drivers.
[03:49] <Roy> se ve muy malo que sera?
[03:50] <dmesg> Roy es por que esta tratando de instalar desde el cd
[03:50] <FactTech> barata -- you want to reconfigure the first 2 15MB partitions into two new ones at 5MB and 20MB, respectively?
[03:50] <Roy> upppp soory i guess that i was in spanish...
[03:50] <barata> yes FactTech ... what would be the "fastest" way to do that?
[03:50] <Kristov> hi
[03:50] <Khaldion> Umm.. strange
[03:51] <Khaldion> Is there a support channel for ubuntu, where you can get some help?
[03:51] <barata> my plan now is just moving everything to another HD and repartition ... but who knows there is actually a faster solution
[03:51] <IdleOne> Khaldion: you got it
[03:51] <Roy> no im tryng to doit in my desktop
[03:51] <IdleOne> !repos | Roy
[03:51] <ubotu> Roy: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:51] <Roy> yes idelone
[03:51] <qmf_> oh god. ubuntu has been running my cpu at 600mhz instead of 1.6! all this time and i never knew!
[03:52] <visik7> anyone can try this stream rtsp://a2047.v1413b.c1413.g.vq.akamaistream.net/5/2047/1413/1_h264_110/1a1a1ae656c632970267e04ebd3196c428970e7ce857b81c4aab1677e445aedc3fae1b4a7bafe013/8848125_1_110.mov and tell me if it works
[03:52] <overridex-laptop> anyone know why my wireless card would be showing up in the normal network stuff and ifconfig, but not in network-manager (it just shows wired)
[03:52] <Khaldion> Well, I have a problem to get my WLAN working, I have got killswitch, which doesn't work. Also I don't know how to get my wlan working, my model is fsc amilo m7440g and my wlan card are IPW 2200 B.
[03:52] <barata> wrong driver overridex-laptop?
[03:52] <JudasHimself> i have two laptops, one has a wireless card one doesnt, is there a way i can get the one without a card to use the one with the cards connection?
[03:52] <barata> what's your chipset?
[03:52] <IdleOne> !wireless | Khaldion
[03:52] <ubotu> Khaldion: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:53] <FactTech> Quick question: Does anyone know who to contact about fixing errors on the ubuntu.com website? There's an undesirable line break in the first bullet point under "Will I have to pay taxes/duties?" at http://www.ubuntu.com/support/faq
[03:53] <FactTech> Is this the right place for that kind of info?
[03:53] <mena> Friends I need To install The Font Comic sans ms Howtos
[03:53] <IdleOne> FactTech: there is probably a link to the webmaster
[03:53] <overridex-laptop> the driver is correct because the wireless card works in ubuntu, i can connect to a network with ubuntu's regular network stuff, just not network-manager
[03:54] <Sapote> Khaldion, check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ for ipw 2200
[03:54] <Kiamo> hi
[03:54] <crimsun> !libvolumeid-dev
[03:54] <ubotu> libvolumeid-dev: volume identification library (development files). In component main, is extra. Version 093-0ubuntu18 (edgy), package size 67 kB, installed size 172 kB
[03:54] <FactTech> @IdleOne Surprisingly, there's not
[03:54] <mena> !fonts
[03:54] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[03:55] <mena> Thanks Friends ^_^
[03:55] <Khaldion> Yeah, but my wlan doesnt find any networks.
[03:55] <Khaldion> Because I cant turn it on.
[03:55] <Khaldion> The documentation of ubuntu does not help me.
[03:56] <Kiamo> i have a few questions before changing from windows to ubuntu
[03:56] <Kiamo> :)
[03:56] <xipietotec> Kiamo: No problem, ask away
[03:56] <Kiamo> ok
[03:56] <khermans> Kiamo, oh yea? lol
[03:56] <Kiamo> well
[03:57] <Kiamo> fist of all
[03:57] <Kiamo> its important for me to be able to use photoshop, 3d studio max and other 3d modelling programs
[03:57] <Kiamo> and id like to beable to use my webcam and 5.1 surround sound speakers
[03:57] <jclark4> Gimp, and Blender
[03:58] <DesertEagle> dual boot and/or virtualize :)
[03:58] <Kiamo> virtualize?
[03:58] <mena> ! Font Comic sans Ms
[03:58] <jclark4> the VM option is awsome
[03:58] <khermans> Kiamo, VMware Server
[03:58] <mena> !Font Comic sans Ms
[03:58] <IdleOne> !fonts | mena
[03:58] <ubotu> mena: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[03:58] <DesertEagle> vmware server doesnt feel like working for me :(
[03:58] <khermans> DesertEagle, it works fine
[03:58] <xipietotec> Kiamo: If you require specific windows applications, then you will either have to use wine, dual boot, or run windows under virtualization
[03:59] <Kiamo> id rather not dual boot if possible
[03:59] <mena> IdleOne, I go there But i Cant Find the Way to install in any way i will find
[03:59] <mena> comic
[03:59] <xipietotec> 3ds max and photoshop are windows only applications, just so you know
[03:59] <Kiamo> yea i figured they where
[03:59] <Kiamo> but i need them for my course
[03:59] <DesertEagle> khermans: all the docs i've read require installation of windows rather than usage of your dual boot like i was used to :(
[03:59] <Kiamo> :(
[03:59] <khermans> Kiamo, you cant run 3ds max and photoshop in linux
[03:59] <Mikey> Kiamo: dual boot
[04:00] <Kiamo> they cant be wined?
[04:00] <khermans> Kiamo, 3ds max has copy protection that prevents it
[04:00] <overridex-laptop> anyone know why my wireless card would be showing up in the normal network stuff and ifconfig, but not in network-manager (it just shows wired)
[04:00] <xipietotec> Kiamo: to varying degree's of success
[04:00] <jclark4> use blender
[04:00] <Mikey> Kiamo: you will never achive speed in any emulation or wine that of a windoze machine runing it
[04:00] <Kiamo> jclark4 all my 3d modelling coursework has to be done in max
[04:00] <jclark4> ah
[04:00] <khermans> DesertEagle, you want RAW DISK mode?
[04:00] <jclark4> understood
[04:00] <Kiamo> ah, shame
[04:00] <DesertEagle> :D yes!
[04:00] <Kiamo> sigh
[04:00] <Kiamo> frustrating
[04:01] <Mikey> Kiamo: you can use other open source soft ;)
[04:01] <DesertEagle> much simpler if you ask me
[04:01] <jclark4> well, if you use VMware
[04:01] <Kiamo> thing is ill never boot back into linux if i dual boot
[04:01] <jclark4> that's best of both
[04:01] <Kiamo> ok well ill go check out VMware
[04:01] <Mikey> Kiamo: yea i understand
[04:01] <Kiamo> thanks for the tip :)
[04:01] <jclark4> and it's free now
[04:01] <jclark4> so that's good!
[04:01] <Kiamo> awesome
[04:01] <DesertEagle> Kiamo: think of linux as a cooler mac OS
[04:01] <Kiamo> ok
[04:01] <DesertEagle> :D
[04:02] <Kiamo> iv always thought of linux as cooler
[04:02] <Mikey> Kiamo: if you have a powerfull system, vmware might just cut it =)
[04:02] <Kiamo> but every time i switch i get anoyed because of lack of application support
[04:02] <Kiamo> good enough?
[04:02] <Kiamo> 64bit dual core
[04:03] <Mikey> Kiamo: yup :)
[04:03] <Kiamo> yay!!!
[04:03] <khermans> DesertEagle, did you get RAW DISK to work?
[04:03] <IdleOne> Kiamo: thats pretty good :P
[04:03] <Mikey> Kiamo: ermmm, youll still have to boot it in wvmare hahaha
[04:03] <Mikey> vmware*
[04:04] <Kiamo> oh
[04:04] <DesertEagle> khermans: i'm reinstalling vmware, vmplayer and server and all of them made a mess on my PC :(
[04:04] <Kiamo> its not something that runs inside linux?
[04:04] <DesertEagle> Kiamo: yes
[04:04] <xipietotec> Kiamo: unless you have very specific applications that you can't live with out...you can find allmost any linux equivilent application
[04:04] <khermans> DesertEagle, you dont need vmplayer
[04:04] <miranda82> hello
[04:04] <khermans> DesertEagle, just vmware server
[04:04] <DesertEagle> khermans: vmware-server-console?
[04:04] <khermans> DesertEagle, yea
[04:04] <miranda82> everytime i try to write something into my external HDD it get reset...
[04:05] <DesertEagle> khermans: know of any doc out there that could help me out with installing raw disk mode?
[04:05] <Kiamo> if blender is very very similar to max and can import and export absolutely no problem, then i suppose i could try blender
[04:05] <Kiamo> i just dont want to fail coursework
[04:05] <uco> hi somebody get to conect the laptop to TV in ubuntu with intel graphics sorry for my english i know is very bad
[04:05] <khermans> DesertEagle, dont you have an existing windows partition ?
[04:05] <DesertEagle> khermans: yep
[04:05] <khermans> DesertEagle, then you dont need to install
[04:06] <DesertEagle> khermans: oh
[04:06] <khermans> DesertEagle, just set the RAW DISK mode to your partition
[04:06] <xipietotec> Kiamo: if your course requires you to use a certain application you should not use a different application
[04:06] <Kiamo> other than that, i just want to be abled to use my webcam and dual monitors, 5.1 speakers, play some games, the usual stuff really
[04:06] <Kiamo> yea...
[04:06] <xipietotec> Kiamo: all of that is possible in linux =)
[04:06] <Kiamo> good good :)
[04:06] <Kiamo> well i guess ill try dual booting
[04:06] <nwf_> i install alsa version 1.0.13 and sound work.. then i install nvidia-glx and  i think i m now using old alsa version
[04:06] <xipietotec> I'd just say keep a small windows partition (perhaps with TinyXP *cough* *cough*)
[04:06] <khermans> Kiamo, webcams work in Linux, and so do dual-monitors, speakers, and some games
[04:07] <DesertEagle> khermans: how do i do that? or where do i read up on that?
[04:07] <nwf_> but now i can install it again .. i get one error compiling
[04:07] <pucko-> why do I need linux-image-386 to install nvidia-glx? why can't I use linux-image-generic?
[04:07] <uco> hi somebody can help me i have problem with mine output tv
[04:08] <khermans> DesertEagle, File -> New -> Virtual Machine
[04:08] <Mikey> does anyone know how i can see more information about by wifi card (rt2500), it keeps disconnecting on me and i want to know why !
[04:08] <DesertEagle> khermans: odd... the server never let me do that o_O
[04:09] <DesertEagle> khermans: even though i had the trial key and everything
[04:09] <khermans> DesertEagle, Custom -> Windows XP Pro -> Next -> Next -> Next -> Next -> Next -> Use Physical Disk
[04:09] <uco> hi good afertnoon
[04:09] <khermans> DesertEagle, you probably just want an individual partition
[04:09] <hdibani> uco: what video card do you have?
[04:10] <uco> intel graphics
[04:10] <nwf_> i can help people with hp pavilion sound problems
[04:10] <Keneo> is there a way to watch this file on dapper? :http://stream.qtv.apple.com/events/jan/j47d52oo/m_8848125_110_ref.mov
[04:10] <uco>  Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 03)
[04:10] <Keneo> in vlc I only get sound
[04:10] <Keneo> no video
[04:10] <hdibani> uco: i have done it for my nvidia using a java gui tool, but the idea is that you have to add a device to your xorg.conf
[04:11] <Keneo> totem can't handle it
[04:11] <hdibani> uco: let me find you the doc i have used
[04:11] <uco> Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[04:11] <uco> sorry
[04:11] <brovold> keneo: is it the apple iphone keynote?
[04:11] <Keneo> uhu
[04:11] <uco> java gui tool??
[04:11] <hdibani> yes
[04:11] <miranda82> everytime i try to write something into my external HDD it get reset...
[04:11] <miranda82> (the drive)
[04:12] <Keneo> I like steve job's keynotes :p
[04:12] <uco> wich is the name of de program?
[04:12] <Mikey> oh and one more thing...
[04:12] <uco> where can i get it?
[04:12] <Mikey> =P
[04:12] <DesertEagle> khermans: could i bother you with a grub question? :D
[04:12] <Keneo> yes, but how to view it in dapper?
[04:12] <pucko-> Can anyone tell me what XvMC is?
[04:12] <SoulChild> Hey, anyone who knwos a good tutorial to speedup boot?
[04:12] <khermans> DesertEagle, ?
[04:13] <brovold> dont think you can see it in dapper keneo, unless you run quicktime virtually or something similar
[04:13] <DesertEagle> khermans: i went through the entire tutorial on ubuntu's forums on how to get gfx-grub to work but it still won't show the new screen
[04:13] <brovold> i have no problems with embedded movs, like apple trailers, but i can't play this one
[04:13] <khermans> DesertEagle, gfx-grub?
[04:13] <ikonia> miranda82 where you not having the same problem yesterday using fat32
[04:13] <Keneo> gonna try wine then :)
[04:13] <ikonia> SoulChild disable some boot up services
[04:14] <khermans> DesertEagle, i just use the standard grub
[04:14] <miranda82> ikonia, yes, i also tried ext2
[04:14] <DesertEagle> khermans: awww, thanks anyways though
[04:14] <SoulChild> ikonia: how to find out which are required
[04:14] <miranda82> and ext3
[04:14] <ikonia> SoulChild you need to work it out
[04:14] <ikonia> miranda82 is it possible your usb bus isn't properly supported ?
[04:14] <miranda82> ikonia, problem is that when i'm formatting the drive is also ejected
[04:15] <SoulChild> ikonia thanks
[04:15] <ikonia> miranda82 loose wire, dodgy power supply ?
[04:15] <miranda82> ikonia, happens in 2 laptiops, and one pc
[04:15] <ikonia> miranda82 then its the drive
[04:15] <miranda82> ikonia, actually the usb hub is powered
[04:15] <hdibani> uco: i do not remember the name i think it was nvout but i am not sure it is the one, any way that was especially for Nvidia cards and you have intel
[04:15] <rioghal> What is the proper command to find all files in $HOME which contain the string "100x40"  ?
[04:15] <ikonia> if you move the drive around and it happens on all the devices - the only common factor is the drive
[04:15] <brunogsimoes_> my emerald is not starting .. how can i fix that
[04:15] <ikonia> rioghal> What is the proper command to find all files in $HOME which contain
[04:15] <miranda82> ikonia, that's the strange things, it's brand new
[04:15] <ikonia>           opps
[04:15] <ikonia> sorry
[04:15] <ikonia> miranda82 doesn't mean its not got a fault
[04:16] <miranda82> ikonia, yeah.. probably.. bad luck
[04:16] <ikonia> rioghal grep -R 100x40 ~/*
[04:16] <Keneo> I started downloading feisty with firefox, but it crashed after 10 mins, now I have a 150MB feisty-desktop-i386.iso.part file
[04:16] <miranda82> i'm using it from an external case, maybe it's the case...
[04:16] <Keneo> can I resumte this?
[04:16] <Keneo> resume
[04:16] <DesertEagle> could i ask you guys for help with gfxboot grub?
[04:16] <Keneo> if so, how?
[04:16] <miranda82> it's not possible to find a solution?
[04:16] <ikonia> DesertEagle there is a wiki page about it unless you have a specific question
[04:17] <ikonia> miranda82 if its a hardware problem.....no
[04:17] <DesertEagle> ikonia: i went through the entire wiki :D
[04:17] <DesertEagle> still won't work
[04:17] <miranda82> damn
[04:17] <uco> hdbani yes i know for nvidia and whit nvidia i get see in tv but with intel i havent documentacion
[04:17] <hdibani> uco: look here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23628 i think it will point you to the right direction.
[04:17] <ikonia> miranda82 how do you expect the channel to fix a hardware error ?
[04:17] <miranda82> i know...
[04:17] <FactTech> Question: How does a package on the repository get maintained? I found a package on the repository that's out of date. How would I go about getting the latest package submitted to the repository?
[04:17] <bulmer> Keneo: what did you use to download?  wget normally allows you to continue with those *.part
[04:17] <rioghal> ikonia, Thank you very much.. I thought I had tried that one but I guess not.
[04:17] <Keneo> started downloding with firefox
[04:17] <miranda82> i thought that maybe if some sectors were bad, just make some partitions out of those sectors
[04:17] <uco> hdbani thank you i will to see
[04:17] <ikonia> FactTech you can't - just make a request
[04:18] <bulmer> Keneo: find out whats behind firefox doing the downloading..maybe it is wget
[04:18] <ikonia> miranda82 not if its a hardware error - which this looks like it is
[04:18] <Arin> hello guys
[04:18] <saharaab> salam
[04:18] <Keneo> ok, thx
[04:18] <DesertEagle> alaykum salaam
[04:18] <rioghal> ikonia, Any idea why this didn't work? grep -r 100x40 /home/donna/*
[04:18] <animaniacx> hey
[04:18] <animaniacx> can i be helped?
[04:18] <ikonia> rioghal its -R
[04:18] <ikonia> animaniacx you have to ask a question
[04:19] <khermans> Keneo, wget --continue
[04:19] <animaniacx> i am having a problem with my graphics card
[04:19] <Arin> is here someone who uses HP notebook  with winxp installation on hard disk? and uses on this notebook both windows and ubuntu ?
[04:19] <DesertEagle> ikonia: could i bother you with the question? :D
[04:19] <ikonia> Arin do you have a question
[04:19] <rioghal> ikonia, the file system differentiates between upper and lower letters?
[04:19] <ikonia> DesertEagle just ask it
[04:19] <ikonia> rioghal yes - try grep -iR
[04:19] <DesertEagle> what should i double check to make the pretty grub screen to show?
[04:20] <animaniacx> i get a message saying there is probaly no graphic card drivers installed
[04:20] <khermans> Arin, me
[04:20] <ikonia> DesertEagle what do you mean ? what have you done so far
[04:20] <Arin> ikonia:: yes, I do, I have similar notebook and something messed up with windows,  I was wondering can I run recovery mode to recover windows
[04:20] <Arin> will it harm ubuntu partitions?
[04:20] <rioghal> ikonia, Thanks again, I'm learning 
[04:20] <ikonia> Arin shouldn't do
[04:20] <ikonia> rioghal no problem
[04:20] <DesertEagle> ikonia: i did everything in the wiki and then some
[04:20] <Keneo> thx khermans, it's working
[04:20] <ikonia> DesertEagle what errors are you getting ?
[04:21] <khermans> Arin, dont use the HP recovery
[04:21] <DesertEagle> none, just no screen
[04:21] <khermans> Arin, it sucks anyways -- always install from scratch
[04:21] <ikonia> DesertEagle no idea I've not got the wiki in front of me
[04:21] <ikonia> so I can't walk through it at the moment
[04:21] <bamzin> can anyone recommend me a good download manager?
[04:21] <DesertEagle> ikonia oh my bad, i put "gfxmenu (hd0,2)/grub/message.grub
[04:21] <cyros> finally up and running smoothly :)
[04:21] <n2diy> bamzin: synaptic
[04:21] <animaniacx> is there an nivdea graphics cvard drivers for ubuntu?
[04:22] <ikonia> animaniacx yes as well you know, you've asked this in this channel many times
[04:22] <Arin> khermans:: so basically I should reinstall windows from a CD and choose partition where it was installed?
[04:22] <DesertEagle> ikonia: i replaced the message, i redid grub (root (hd0,2) install (hd0)
[04:22] <animaniacx> were can i get?
[04:22] <rioghal> !nvidia
[04:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:22] <ikonia> animaniacx search the wiki
[04:22] <khermans> Arin, yea -- you still have to reinstall grub
[04:22] <khermans> Arin, but you cant trust those recovery discs
[04:22] <ikonia> animaniacx you've asked this exact question, and been answered numerous times
[04:22] <afd_> Hi guys! I'm following the guide here, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29 but I get errors when running X about mismatching driver versions with kernel
[04:22] <ikonia> DesertEagle well done
[04:22] <afd_> what to do?
[04:23] <Arin> khermans:: how to reinstall grub ?
[04:23] <Arin> khermans:: only switch active partition?
[04:23] <ikonia> afd_ can you show us the exact errors in a pastebin please
[04:23] <ikonia> !pastebin >afd_
[04:23] <rioghal> !grub
[04:23] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:23] <bulmer> Arin: man grub-install
[04:23] <khermans> Arin, grub-install /dev/hda
[04:23] <rioghal> Gotta love that bot, hehe
[04:23] <kbrosnan> bulmer: firefox has its own code for downloading
[04:23] <khermans> Arin, sometimes that fails though
[04:24] <maxx1> hey is the update-manager crashing with the new linux-restricted-modules updates for anyone else?
[04:24] <ikonia> maxx1 no
[04:24] <Arin> that ubotu link looks nice
[04:24] <bulmer> kbrosnan: apparently the guy used wget --continue and it recovered, so his may be using wget behind it
[04:24] <khermans> Arin, grub -> root (hd0,1)
[04:24] <khermans> Arin, setup (hd0)
[04:24] <ikonia> maxx1 may help if you tell us which ubuntu version and which restricted modules version
[04:25] <kbrosnan> bulmer: no, you can contuinue with wget. but it is custom code
[04:25] <Arin> ok, thank you guys!
[04:25] <bulmer> kbrosnan: ah okay..btw how do you find out what it uses for downloading?
[04:25] <ikonia> bulmer its custom code ?
[04:25] <maxx1> ikonia, ok ubuntu edgy, when i open updates-manager it has linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386 and also 2.6.17-10-generic
[04:25] <afd_> ikonia & others: my nvidia driver problem @ http://paste.plone.org/12420
[04:25] <ikonia> what part of that do you not get
[04:26] <ikonia> maxx1 nope - looks good version whise
[04:26] <ikonia> wise
[04:26] <bulmer> ikonia: how to find out what firefox was using to download.?
[04:26] <kbrosnan> bulmer: lxr.mozilla.org
[04:26] <ikonia> bulmer its custom code
[04:26] <bulmer> okay thanks..
[04:26] <khermans> bulmer, apt-get source firefox
[04:26] <lsouza> hi, how do i install ruby gems ?
[04:26] <maxx1> ikonia, so the minute i open update manager it gives me a message: "not all updates can be installed, run a dist-upgrade"
[04:27] <lsouza> is there any deb package?
[04:27] <n2diy> I'm trying to share a dial up modem with my newly created lan. This box is hooked to the external modem with regular phone cable. Then this box is hooked to the router with Cat 5 cable, and the other box is hooked to the router. I've installed Firestarter, and I have ppp0 set as the internet connection, and eth0 as the Lan connection. more...
[04:27] <ikonia> maxx1 have you run a dist-upgrade ? packages could just be out of sync
[04:27] <ikonia> n2diy is it a win modem ?
[04:27] <maxx1> ikonia, so i click for dist-upgrade... and then it says "could not calculate the upgrade, and unresolvable problem occured please report this bug"
[04:27] <n2diy> ikonia: no, it is an external modem.
[04:28] <ikonia> maxx1 report the bug to the launch pad project - or search launch pad for an existing bug report
[04:28] <bulmer> n2diy: then make sure your box forwards
[04:28] <ikonia> !launchpad >maxx1
[04:28] <ikonia> n2diy sorry - I had to ask
[04:28] <n2diy> This box is setup as the DMZ in the router, and I'm forwarding port 80, what am I missing?
[04:29] <maxx1> ok ikonia will do.... i'll also try a command line dist-upgrade and see if that helps
[04:29] <bulmer> n2diy: then make sure your box forwards  .. cat 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[04:29] <ikonia> why would the command line version change it
[04:29] <mwe> isn't putting 'blacklist foo' in a file in /etc/modprobe.d/ supposed to stop module foo from being loaded?
[04:29] <ikonia> its the same command
[04:29] <ikonia> mwe yes
[04:29] <maxx1> well apparently it's update manager that's crashing... not apt
[04:29] <ikonia> mwe I thought the file was called blacklist in /etc/modprobe.d/
[04:30] <ikonia> maxx1 really, that error doesn't look like it
[04:30] <ikonia> that error looks like its just stating the facts on the update
[04:30] <ikonia> try it
[04:30] <mwe> ikonia: odd. pcspkr is getting loaded though I have 'blacklist pcspkr' in blacklist-misc
[04:30] <ikonia> mwe  isn't the file just "blacklist"
[04:30] <maxx1> is it just "apt-get dist upgrade"?
[04:30] <ikonia> maxx1 dist-upgrade
[04:30] <maxx1> ok cool
[04:30] <mwe> ikonia: maybe it has to be that file, yes. I thought any file would work
[04:31] <ikonia> mwe no I think its the "blacklist" file
[04:31] <ikonia> but don't qutoe me on that
[04:31] <mwe> ikonia: there are a bunch of blacklist-* files in there, though
[04:31] <ikonia> mwe ooh right
[04:31] <khermans> ikonia, yes it is
[04:31] <maxx1> ikonia... think i've located the problem.... it says it needs to remove nvidia-glx
[04:31] <mwe> ikonia: I'll try just blacklist and see if it works
[04:31] <ikonia> khermans ta
[04:31] <ikonia> mwe looks like it will
[04:32] <n2diy> bulmer, I get permission denied running that command, even with sudo?
[04:32] <maxx1> so maybe if i just install nvidia-glx afterwards again all will be good
[04:32] <oldroger>  does anybody know where the shell gets it`s time stamp from? terminal is 9 minutes in the future then system time AND
[04:32] <oldroger>            harrdware clock
[04:32] <ikonia> maxx1 you won't be able to remove that while the modules in use
[04:32] <oldroger>  does anybody know where the shell gets it`s time stamp from? terminal is 9 minutes in the future then system time AND
[04:32] <oldroger>            harrdware clock
[04:32] <cyros> thanks guys for all ur help, im out
[04:32] <DesertEagle> since ikonia is busy... could anyone help me pinpoint the issue with grub not showing the screen graphics? :D
[04:32] <maxx1> oh ok thanks for the heads up.... so how do i remove it?
[04:32] <ikonia> oldroger means your system clock is out of sync with your bios clock
[04:32] <Pollito> Holaaa
[04:32] <fromvega> Hello!
[04:32] <khermans> oldroger, file time stamps?
[04:33] <ikonia> maxx1 manuall unload the module after you have stopped X and started using the nv or vesa driver
[04:33] <oldroger> ikonia: no sytem time (date) and bios time (hwclock) are the same and are right
[04:33] <bulmer> n2diy: as root, check if that /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward is set to one, you can cat it
[04:33] <ikonia> oldroger so what are you doing to get that message ?
[04:33] <lakin> I just got dual monitors setup on my ATI card with my laptop.  The second monitor is a smaller resolution than my display: 1680x1050 instead of 1280x1024 ... but the mouse gets corrupted on the second display, any ideas?
[04:33] <maxx1> ikonia, damn ok i'll give it my best shot
[04:33] <oldroger> but everthing from the shell (touch, mkdir, etc) is 9 minutes in the future
[04:33] <bulmer> oldroger: i think ntpd is the daemon that does the synchronization between those clocks
[04:34] <afd_> Anyone care to look at my problem with the Nvidia driver? http://paste.plone.org/12420
[04:34] <khermans> lakin, use multiple screen setups in xorg.conf
[04:34] <n2diy> bulmer, I removed the > 1, and it ran, and returned a 1
[04:34] <afd_> I want the binary driver, following the guide from ubuntu guide
[04:34] <lakin> khermans: i've got that setup already. ... it's the mouse corruption that I'm investigating
[04:34] <oldroger> bulmer: you`re right ntp is running on startup
[04:34] <ikonia> lakin probably driver issues
[04:34] <khermans> lakin, dont use the proprietary ATI setup crap
[04:35] <bulmer> n2diy: then next make sure the NATing is working so it can translate the ip address between internal and external
[04:35] <khermans> lakin, i mean the actual "screen" variable in xorg.conf
[04:35] <n2diy> bulmer, roger.
[04:36] <bulmer> as kareem abdul jabbar (named roger in Airplane) say this is roger..huh?
[04:36] <n2diy> oldroger: to set your clock from the command line type: ntp pool.ntp.net
[04:36] <lakin> khermans: you mean multiple "screen" sections right?
[04:36] <bulmer> lolx
[04:36] <khermans> lakin, yea
[04:36] <riotkittie> airplane... hehehe
[04:36] <lakin> khermans: I have that!
[04:36] <khermans> lakin, show me your  config file
[04:36] <lakin> ikonia: yeah, likely.  I was just curious if it was a known issue with an easy fix.
[04:36] <fromvega> How does Plesk (and some other panels) work? I mean, how it's integrated to the system? I feel that I'm somehow tied to these panels since I can't upgrade PHP, MySQL etc without breaking them. What should I do to achieve the same results as in Plesk but without it? Like create a virtual site, email accounts, ftp accounts, ssh access for each domain? Are they all apache virtual hosts and permission based? How can I configure a php.ini for eac
[04:36] <lakin> khermans: ok.
[04:37] <n2diy> Where do I look to see if NAT is up?
[04:37] <khermans> lakin, oh the mouse looks funny when you move it over?
[04:37] <bulmer> n2diy: thats probably a firewall rule
[04:37] <bulmer> so look to that tool you use as front end to your iptables
[04:37] <oldroger> n2diy: that`s not the problem, my system time and hwclock works perfectly (proving with date and hwclock), but all time e.g. touch and mkdir are setting wrong timestamps to the file system
[04:37] <n2diy> bulmer, roger. :)
[04:38] <foomanchew> anyone able to use Rythmbox to listen to an iTune 7.0 share ?
[04:38] <ikonia> oldroger be interesting to see what happens if you do an ntpdate ntp0.pool.ntp.org
[04:38] <lakin> khermans: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1073/
[04:38] <khermans> oldroger, is it a mounted file system from remote?
[04:38] <n2diy> oldroger: ok, there are two clocks in your system, hardware, and software, you need to sync them. Off the top of my head I don't remember how to do it.
[04:39] <OrTigaS> where can i download movie player plugins?
[04:39] <lakin> khermans: yeah, the mouse looks funny when I move it over.
[04:39] <khermans> OrTigaS, just use vlc
[04:39] <ikonia> n2diy if he does an ntpdate it will sync the hardware and aystem clocks and alert is to any possible differences
[04:39] <lakin> khermans: it looks like a corrupted portion of the background picture.
[04:39] <mnoir> fromvega: are you asking how you would write your own Plesk??
[04:39] <OrTigaS> how?
[04:40] <khermans> OrTigaS, sudo aptitude install vlc
[04:40] <fromvega> mnoir: nope, how I would do the same things without it...
[04:40] <OrTigaS> ok
[04:40] <n2diy> ikonia: ok, did you see that oldroger?
[04:40] <OrTigaS> aptitude/apt-get?
[04:40] <ikonia> oldroger be interesting to see what happens if you do an ntpdate ntp0.pool.ntp.org
[04:41] <fromvega> mnoir: I do not want to depend on these panels to create domains
[04:41] <khermans> lakin, get rid of Xinerama
[04:41] <khermans> lakin, you dont need that
[04:41] <lakin> khermans: k
[04:42] <lakin> khermans: brb
[04:42] <oldroger> ikonia: you`re sure about ntp? without date? don`t have it on my system
[04:42] <khermans> lakin, and remove the '0 0' in your server layout
[04:42] <ikonia> oldroger I gave you a bad host try this
[04:42] <Enverex> What the best plugin to use for Firefox to get embedded audio in webpages to work?
[04:42] <ikonia> oldroger ntpdate ntp.tuxfamily.net
[04:43] <mnoir> fromvega: so (ignoring your protest) you want a FROMVEGAesk - that will take you alot of hours - I know a Web Host that did it.  It took several programmers a long time.  Basically you are looking at programmatic editing of text files - not so hard, programmatic bouncing of daemons (not so hard but risky) and so on...
[04:43] <lakin> khermans: the mouse is no longer corrupted, but it's not a shared desktop between the two monitors.
[04:43] <oldroger> ikonia: 10 Jan 16:42:52 ntpdate[15567] : step time server 212.85.158.10 offset -1.399707 sec
[04:43] <mnoir> fromvega: btw - your assumptions about virt domains and so on are correct
[04:43] <ikonia> oldroger not that far off, but it was in the future
[04:43] <khermans> lakin, oh you want it shared
[04:44] <lakin> khermans: ideally.  This situation isn't the worst situation, but I'd prefer to be able to drag apps between the two screens.
[04:44] <mnoir> fromvega: as a sample, you might want to look at some of the webmin code and the phpmyadmin code - they are the kind of thing you contemplate doing :)
[04:44] <ikonia> lakin you need xinerama
[04:44] <khermans> lakin, you can't do that now?
[04:44] <oldroger> ikonia: example: >date -> Wed Jan 10 16:43:45 CET 2007
[04:44] <lakin> khermans: no
[04:44] <lakin> khermans: I've actually got a gnome-panel on both screens
[04:44] <fromvega> mnoir: I do not want a programmatic way... but the line command way... there won't be so much sites, I just want to understand...
[04:45] <khermans> lakin, right
[04:45] <ikonia> oldroger that looks good
[04:45] <khermans> lakin, let me check something quickly
[04:45] <lakin> ikonia: I thought so ... but I wasn't sure.
[04:45] <lakin> khermans: ok
[04:45] <lakin> khermans, ikonia: thanks for your help so far
[04:45] <oldroger> ikonia:  touch bla2;  ls -l bla2 -> -rw-r--r-- 1 geno geno 0 2007-01-10 16:53 bla2
[04:45] <ikonia> lakin welcome
[04:45] <ikonia> oldroger thats very strange
[04:45] <mnoir> fromvega: oic - you want to know, for instance, how to make a virt domain from the commandline - i can show you that :) it is easy
[04:45] <maxx1> hi again ikonia.... now it wont let me re-install nvidia-glx :(
[04:46] <ikonia> maxx1 what does it say
[04:46] <Zero_Kelvin> Hiyo. Need to know what packages the zip, tar, and bzip2 kio slaves are in.
[04:46] <fromvega> fromvega: for instance, like the integration of email accounts, mysql accounts, ftp accounts. Is there a way to use only one source for the authentication? Or each service needs a user account?
[04:46] <ikonia> Zero_Kelvin what ?
[04:46] <maxx1> ikonia: Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[04:46] <maxx1> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
[04:46] <maxx1> that package should be filed.
[04:46] <maxx1> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[04:46] <maxx1> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:46] <maxx1>   nvidia-glx: Depends: nvidia-kernel-1.0.9746
[04:46] <Zero_Kelvin> ikonia: I'm hoping there's a package maintainer here. :)
[04:46] <FeelingGood> ubuntu ne demek
[04:46] <ikonia> maxx1 does the package nvidia-kernel-1.0.9746 exist in the repo
[04:46] <oldroger> ikonia: compare the ls to date. ls -l  was within an instance after date
[04:46] <ikonia> Zero_Kelvin I don't know what your asking
[04:46] <mnoir> fromvega: the account integration is not very smooth - i am not up on single logon for linux
[04:47] <fromvega> mnoir: yes, that kind of stuff that I want... only use the default linux tools and config files...
[04:47] <ikonia> oldroger yes, I see. Very strange
[04:47] <khermans> lakin, do you need the videooverlay option?
[04:47] <FeelingGood> trke bilen yok mu
[04:47] <mnoir> fromvega: ya want to start with a virt domain?
[04:47] <mnoir> !tu
[04:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:47] <rausb0> !tr
[04:47] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[04:48] <mnoir> what is the 2letter for turkish??
[04:48] <maxx1> ikonia, doesn't appear in an apt-cache search...... do u see any hope of ever getting it working again or will i need to reinstall?
[04:48] <mnoir> rausb0: tnks
[04:48] <fromvega> mnoir: for sure...
[04:48] <lakin> khermans: i do for proper video playback, but I'll try without it. brb
[04:48] <ikonia> maxx1 try installing that package. What repo  are you pointing at ?
[04:48] <mnoir> fromvega: maybe easier in a less busy chat?
[04:49] <khermans> lakin, remove these things -> videooverlay, 'screen 0' and 'screen 1' from the device sections, the '0 0' in the server layout
[04:49] <maxx1> ikonia my repo for nvidia is http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[04:49] <mnoir> fromvega: to play you should have your own lamp sys
[04:49] <mnoir> fromvega: do you?
[04:49] <ikonia> maxx1 why ar eyou not using ubuntu repos ?
[04:49] <fromvega> mnoir: yes, I do
[04:49] <mnoir> fromvega: good!
[04:49] <ikonia> why are you using lupines presonal presonal repo ?
[04:50] <lakin> khermans: still no luck.
[04:50] <maxx1> the 3d nvidia driver is proprietary and so it's not in the ubuntu repos
[04:50] <lakin> Still a stupid cursor
[04:50] <ikonia> maxx1 yes it is - its in the nonfreee repo
[04:50] <khermans> lakin, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=227902&highlight=xinerama+cursor
[04:50] <ikonia> maxx1 who told you to use that repo ?
[04:50] <maikeul> hi all
[04:50] <maikeul> hi all
[04:50] <maxx1> ikonia, i followed the main tutorial for beryl
[04:51] <khermans> lakin, seems to be your horiz/vert sync are wrong for your monitors
[04:51] <maikeul> can anyone answer a quetion about ati video card ?
[04:51] <ikonia> maxx1 get rid of that repo - and use the nvidia "nonfree" repo no wonder you box is getting in a mess
[04:51] <ikonia> maikeul ask it so we can see if we can answer
[04:51] <lakin> khermans: that might make sense.  Now I need to track down how to detect the correct values
[04:51] <khermans> lakin, add the right values
[04:51] <maikeul> ok thanks jsut axplain the pb
[04:51] <khermans> lakin, boot from Knoppix and copy the values
[04:51] <ikonia> maikeul pb ?
[04:52] <lakin> don't they show up in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:52] <maxx1> ikonia... if i give u a remote shell do u think you could fix it up for me?
[04:52] <khermans> lakin, or google your monitors type if they are not egenric
[04:52] <khermans> lakin, then put the config back to the way you had it
[04:52] <maxx1> i'm not sure which packages i have installed now :(
[04:52] <ikonia> maxx1 probably not, I'm quite limited where I can ssh to at the moment as I'm on a clients site
[04:52] <maikeul> when i do fglrinfo, i have "OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect"
[04:52] <lakin> khermans: good call ... will do
[04:52] <FeelingGood> trke bilen varm millet?
[04:52] <khermans> lakin, good luck
[04:52] <jc-denton> hi all
[04:53] <ikonia> maxx1 just remove that repo - and make sure you have the deiab ones enabled - then do an apt-get update - then an update-get dist-upgrade
[04:53] <jc-denton> is there a howto for customized kernels on ubuntu?
[04:53] <socorrista_ach> hi there ppl
[04:53] <jrib> !kernel | jc-denton
[04:53] <ubotu> jc-denton: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[04:53] <jc-denton> i just tried with the .config from ubuntu
[04:53] <ikonia> maxx1 see how that gets you going
[04:53] <jc-denton> and compiled in the ide driver
[04:53] <maikeul> i use 8.32.5-x86.x86 drivers
[04:53] <ikonia> jc-denton that won't work
[04:53] <jc-denton> but for some reason it still does not work w/o initramfs
[04:53] <deepsa> hey i am having problem in ubuntu. i can't open any website in firefox. i can ping google.com but can't open www.google.com. somebody help please
[04:53] <jc-denton> why?
[04:53] <maxx1> ikonia, ok so that will get rid of all the stuff from lupine's repo?
[04:54] <EmxBA> one interesting question: who did really make ubuntu? mark s. just finances it over canonical ltd, ubuntu foundation works on packages; who did came to idea of ubuntu?
[04:54] <ikonia> maxx1 maybe - maybe not - depends on the versioning. See how you go then you can go back to using lupines repo. HE's a good guy so his stuff is good, but somewhere you've got in a mess
[04:54] <jc-denton> i tought that ide driver and fs are enough to be able to mount the root fs
[04:54] <ikonia> jc-denton you can't just drop them in like that
[04:54] <socorrista_ach> hey, i have a 11gb free partition on my ubuntu hard drive..how do i join it too my ubuntu partition?
[04:54] <pike_> socorrista_ach: gparted
[04:55] <maxx1> ikonia... so even beryl itself is in the non-free ubuntu repos?
[04:55] <payton> Hello.  I need some help, please.
[04:55] <ikonia> maxx1 no beryl isn't
[04:55] <payton> How do I install an kmdr file?
[04:55] <socorrista_ach> pike_ is that a  command or a program? im a newbie
[04:55] <socorrista_ach> lol
[04:55] <FactTech> deepsa Any chance of a firewall interfering?
[04:55] <ikonia> maxx1 lets get to a known good state first though
[04:55] <nofxx> hi... when I close the laptop lid my xubuntu try to hibernate, but it comes back stay on BUT STOP THE CPU COOLER..... now I dont know witch is worse: burn my lap or go back to windows......please help.. xD
[04:55] <EmxBA> can anyone answer me? mako maybe?
[04:55] <pike_> socorrista_ach: program. youll have to install and run it
[04:55] <deepsa> FactTech, no chance i can access internet on other laptop
[04:56] <pike_> !gparted| socorrista_ach
[04:56] <ubotu> socorrista_ach: gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[04:56] <socorrista_ach> ok thanks
[04:56] <ikonia> EmxBA /join #utubntu-off topic for none support chat
[04:56] <jc-denton> ikonia: yeah but why not?
[04:56] <maxx1> ikonia. ok.. so where do i add the non-free part... i have backports, universe multiverse... etc
[04:56] <FactTech> deepsa Does FTP work?
[04:56] <ikonia> maxx1 just add a "nonfree" line
[04:56] <jc-denton> i dont want to make clean again
[04:56] <jc-denton> :(
[04:56] <ikonia> jc-denton the link you where sent should walk you through it
[04:56] <deepsa> i haven't tested factorx
[04:56] <ikonia> jc-denton what kernel version are you trying to build from
[04:57] <maxx1> ikonia, i modified one of the existing lines, does this look ok: deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse non-free
[04:57] <EmxBA> thanks ikonia
[04:57] <ikonia> maxx1 not sure if its nonfree or none-free
[04:57] <ikonia> maxx1 keep in mind I've not got web access to check
[04:57] <maxx1> right ok
[04:57] <maxx1> i'll try it out
[04:58] <LoRez> how can I get gnome-terminal to send a meta-key sequence for alt-h ?
[04:58] <jc-denton> 2.6.19
[04:59] <ikonia> jc-denton why that version
[04:59] <ikonia> jc-denton whats specific about that version that you need
[04:59] <jc-denton> 2.6.19.1
[04:59] <ikonia> jc-denton question still stands - whats specific
[04:59] <jc-denton> ah i want to try out some patches
[04:59] <ikonia> you can't drop a .19 module into a .17 kernel
[04:59] <jc-denton> and i want to use the ubuntu config
[04:59] <lakin> khermans: what was that link again, I forgot to bookmark it
[04:59] <jc-denton> ikonia: yes i know
[04:59] <ikonia> jc-denton are you trying to build the whole kernel or just the modules you want
[04:59] <jc-denton> so that things on my laptop work
[04:59] <khermans> lakin, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=227902&highlight=xinerama+cursor
[04:59] <jc-denton> maybe i need to ask differnt
[05:00] <jc-denton> how can i compile a kernel w/o initramfs and with the ubuntu config
[05:00] <jc-denton> or what do i need to change
[05:00] <jc-denton> besides ide driver not as module
[05:00] <ikonia> jc-denton you'll need anything thats needed at boot time built into the kernel
[05:00] <jc-denton> the whole kernel
[05:00] <ikonia> the link sent to you walks you through it
[05:00] <ikonia> jc-denton what do you mean the whole kernel ?
[05:00] <jc-denton> ikonia: which is
[05:01] <ikonia> !kernel
[05:01] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[05:01] <jc-denton> ikonia: kernel with modules
[05:02] <biggdoggg> is there a way to run a remote command on a using using ssh but not force the output of this command to be seen on the comand issuers screen
[05:02] <ikonia> jc-denton depends on your hardware
[05:02] <jc-denton> ikonia: but i want it w/o initramfs
[05:02] <ikonia> anything thats needed before the modules are probed
[05:02] <ikonia> so for example disk controller
[05:02] <ikonia> file system
[05:02] <ikonia> that sort of thing
[05:02] <jc-denton> the ide driver
[05:02] <jc-denton> yes i have that
[05:02] <ikonia> yes
[05:02] <ikonia> there is more to it than that
[05:02] <ikonia> they where just examples
[05:02] <jc-denton> ok
[05:02] <jc-denton> then i'll have a look at it again
[05:03] <ikonia> just think about what hardware/software is needed before the modules are probed
[05:03] <ikonia> cafuego: if you had a raid disk - you'd need raid modules
[05:03] <ikonia> and the file systems they used
[05:03] <ikonia> and device mapper support
[05:03] <ikonia> for example
[05:03] <ikonia> cafuego sorry that was meant for jc-denton
[05:04] <webben> Why might fonts like DejaVu Sans and friends not appear in gtkfontsel?
[05:05] <webben> and xfontsel too
[05:05] <payton> I have a couple of questions.  Can someone help me for a few minutes?
[05:05] <ikonia> payton just ask them
[05:05] <rioghal> Because those fonts can't be rendered correctly in certain apps?
[05:05] <biggdoggg> is there a way to run a remote command on a using using ssh but not force the output of this command to be seen on the comand issuers screen
[05:05] <capiira> anyone know a way to get the default quit logout etc. dialog from gnome?
[05:05] <payton> How do I install a Kommander extension (.kmdr file)?
[05:05] <ikonia> biggdoggg pipe it to /dev/null
[05:05] <payton> How do I install a DEB package from command line?
[05:06] <riotkittie> dpkg -i <pkg>
[05:06] <rioghal> webben, I know that a lot of fonts can't be rendered correctly in X apps, like xfontsel itself, so xfontsel doesn't recognize them.
[05:06] <Rage_> payton: dpkg -i package.deb
[05:06] <maxx1> ikonia, both nonfree and non-free give me and error at the end of apt-get update
[05:06] <Jebho> what is the best solution to having a seperate partition to read&write from both linux and windows?
[05:06] <biggdoggg> so ssh system top | /dev/null
[05:06] <ikonia> maxx1 use the gui to setup the wiki's
[05:06] <ikonia> oops
[05:06] <ikonia> repos
[05:06] <riotkittie> Jebho: FAT32
[05:06] <Xbehave> hey, im just cleaning up my repository list and wonderd if i should keep # deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/
[05:06] <ikonia> or use the wiki to check the gui names
[05:06] <webben> rioghal, Why would it be possible to render Arial (say) but not DejaVu Sans?
[05:06] <Rage_> payton: apt-cache search <search> and apt-get install <result> if you can though
[05:06] <biggdoggg> ikonia am i correct
[05:07] <ikonia> biggdoggg no
[05:07] <ikonia> you will struggle to do it with top
[05:07] <biggdoggg> > /dev/nul
[05:07] <rioghal> webben, I'm not sure.. it does sound a bit confusing.
[05:07] <ikonia> biggdoggg whats the command you want to do ?
[05:07] <payton> OK, dpkg is working great.  How do I install a Kommander  extension?
[05:07] <biggdoggg> for example lets say top
[05:07] <FactTech> Question: Is the app launched by "Add/Remove" Synaptic?
[05:07] <biggdoggg> ssh system top > /dev/null
[05:07] <ikonia> biggdoggg can't do it with top - as it opens a curses session
[05:08] <riotkittie> i'm not familiar with Kommander, so i have no clue
[05:08] <ikonia> biggdoggg why would you want to do that with top
[05:08] <biggdoggg> im just using it as a example
[05:08] <ikonia> biggdoggg why don't you give me the exact command you want to use
[05:08] <biggdoggg> i have some programs that must be kicked off
[05:08] <biggdoggg> they are custom scripts
[05:08] <ikonia> biggdoggg so they are going to have custom output
[05:08] <biggdoggg> binaries i didnt write
[05:08] <CARA> anny
[05:08] <biggdoggg> yes
[05:09] <biggdoggg> but i dont care to see the output
[05:09] <ikonia> biggdoggg  so it depends on what type of scripts they are
[05:09] <rioghal> riotkittie, hehe
[05:09] <Xbehave> where can i get a guide to which repos i should keep because i used automatix but dont want to use any of its repos anymore as id rather stick to standerd ones
[05:09] <ikonia> Xbehave then why did you use it
[05:10] <Belboz99> Hey all, anyone know if you need to have Virtualization Support enabled in the BIOS before compiling the 2.6.20 kernel to support Virtualization?
[05:10] <Xbehave> because i was new to ubuntu and just wanted to get everything working quickly
[05:10] <ikonia> Belboz99 /join #kernel
[05:10] <Daniel0> what command would i use to temporarily mount /dev/sdb4?
[05:10] <ikonia> Belboz99 also the .20 kernel may cause you problems on ubuntu
[05:10] <obstfliege> nabend
[05:10] <mnoir> !repositories | Xbehave
[05:10] <ubotu> Xbehave: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:10] <mnoir> Xbehave: those links should help
[05:10] <riotkittie> just wanting to get everything working quickly is often a surefire way to get things broken quickly::P
[05:11] <rioghal> Daniel0, sudo mount /dev/sdb4 /mount/point  where /mnt/point is a pre-existing dir
[05:11] <mnoir> Xbehave: and do tell others about your automatix experience :)
[05:11] <Daniel0> ok thanks
[05:11] <ikonia> mnoir ha ha ha
[05:11] <maxx1> ikonia, ok i've enabled everything i can in the gui... removed lupines repos and i'm currently updating all packages
[05:11] <mnoir> ik
[05:11] <Xbehave> i have been, it messed up my system quite abit
[05:11] <ikonia> maxx1 good man
[05:12] <mnoir> ikonia: i am an activist - the recently burned are the best preachers for the cause
[05:12] <ikonia> mnoir I'm nailed to the cross on a regular basis
[05:12] <mnoir> ikonia: how is the view....
[05:12] <ikonia> painful
[05:12] <ikonia> but the air is clear
[05:12] <mnoir> :)
[05:12] <rioghal> Daniel0, you can do it all in one line: sudo mkdir /mnt/mysdb && sudo mount /dev/sdb4 /mnt/mysdb
[05:13] <Daniel0> ok
[05:13] <ikonia> ok time to do some work
[05:14] <FactTech> !EasySource
[05:14] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:14] <J_P> hey all, anyone here has installed with sucess (subversion + trac + ssl) and  (DotProject)  on ubuntu ?
[05:14] <lotacus> damn
[05:15] <Jebho> what is ubuntu's partioner called?
[05:15] <kauer> Jebho: fdisk?
[05:15] <rioghal> Wowsers! Gotta love mkdir -p  
[05:15] <fetus> Anyone here know a nice program that work for Auto Mount or Manual mount under ubuntu
[05:16] <fetus> *works
[05:16] <maxx1> Jebho, there's a gui one called gnome-parted or something like that
[05:16] <riotkittie> gparted
[05:16] <riotkittie> !gparted
[05:16] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[05:16] <maxx1> riotkittie, that's the one
[05:16] <riotkittie> the gparted live cd is my new boyfriend
[05:16] <rioghal> hehe
[05:17] <maxx1> lol
[05:17] <rioghal> rioghal, system rescue cd switched from qtparted to gparted recently
[05:17] <rioghal> riotkittie, system rescue cd switched from qtparted to gparted recently
[05:17] <pike_> biggdoggg: may i pm you?
[05:18] <J_P> anyone use SVN or DotProject on Ubuntu ?
[05:18] <Netdoctor> anybody know why wpa_supplicant would fail to notify wpa_action and not do the network routing?
[05:18] <OrTigaS> sudo aptitude install vlc....... wont work on me :(
[05:19] <un_operateur> OrTigaS, tell us why it won't work
[05:19] <rioghal> OrTigaS, what error does that give you?
[05:20] <un_operateur> fetus, gnome usually handles most of that stuff for you -- but you might also be interested in !fuse
[05:20] <OrTigaS> ouldn't find any package whose name or description matched "vlc"
[05:20] <OrTigaS> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[05:20] <maikeul> i have a driver problem : [drm]  failed to load kernel module "fglrx"
[05:20] <maikeul> (II) fglrx(0): [drm]  drmOpen failed
[05:20] <maikeul> (EE) fglrx(0): DRIScreenInit failed!
[05:20] <maikeul> (WW) fglrx(0): ***********************************************
[05:20] <maikeul> (WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed!                  *
[05:20] <maikeul> (WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad) *
[05:20] <maikeul> (WW) fglrx(0): * 2D acceleraton available (MMIO)             *
[05:20] <maikeul> (WW) fglrx(0): * no 3D acceleration available                *
[05:20] <maikeul> (WW) fglrx(0): ********************************************* *
[05:20] <temba> u edited the /etc/apt/sources.list =?
[05:20] <rioghal> OrTigaS, vlc is in universe (Dapper), did you enable the universe repo?
[05:20] <fetus> !fuse
[05:20] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[05:20] <OrTigaS> rio not yet
[05:21] <fetus> the thing is i have the ntfs 3g drivers
[05:21] <fetus> and all is good
[05:21] <temba> OrTigaS u edited the /etc/apt/sources.list =?
[05:21] <payton> There doesn't appear to be anyone in #kde.  Can someone recommend an IRC channel where I can get KDE support?
[05:21] <un_operateur> OrTigaS, you probably don't have the right repository enabled
[05:21] <un_operateur> !vlc
[05:21] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[05:21] <pike_> payton: #kubuntu
[05:21] <un_operateur> !info vlc
[05:21] <OrTigaS> didn't do anything yet
[05:21] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[05:21] <maxx1> fetus.. just out of interest is it unsafe as in mess up your linux install or corrupt your ntfs volume?
[05:21] <fetus> but somehow while updating to edgy he f0ked the fstab file ... and i dont have the nerves to do it manually
[05:21] <OrTigaS> just installed 6.06
[05:21] <rioghal> OrTigaS, You need to enable the repo which contains the app you want before aptitude can see that it's there and ready for installation
[05:22] <lotacus> ok. who's good at troubleshooting beryl?
[05:22] <fetus> they say it is unsafe but i didnt have any problems
[05:22] <ctkroeker> I need a program that is suited for hospitals for managing their patients. t can be really simple, just and entry for name, address, ailment, date, etc.
[05:22] <fetus> i even downloaded directly from azureus to ntfs on linux
[05:22] <cstextiles>  I required info about the JDBC Connection to Open Office in Ubuntu Linux? The url to my problem is http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5123362&tstart=0
[05:22] <temba> OrTigaS open the /etc/apt/sources.list and read the statements there, uncomment the lines needed. then do apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, then search your paackage via "apt-cache search <package>"
[05:22] <un_operateur> fetus, well, no harm done in trying, if you mess up a line, mount ignores it -- so make a backup of fstab and add your line in :)
[05:22] <trinitrogen> Does anybody have any experience with gtk-gnutella?
[05:22] <maxx1> trinitrogen, i luv it
[05:23] <orangey> hey all.
[05:23] <temba> i only know Nutella
[05:23] <fetus> that requiers thinking...i've been going to exams all day ... all i can think is LAZY :D
[05:23] <riotkittie> Nutella is tasty
[05:23] <trinitrogen> maxxl, I just started using it this morning and Im running into a problem, I've downloaded 3 things, and the 4 seems to be perpetually queued
[05:23] <orangey> any idea how I could make it so that mplayer is selected over totem in firefox?
[05:23] <rioghal> fetus, hahaha
[05:23] <fetus> thanks un_op ;)
[05:23] <orangey> ubuntu mandates totem-firefox, so it would be super handy
[05:23] <trinitrogen> maxxl, it pops up under active every so often, but dissapears
[05:24] <fetus> i'm gonna go now and not think for a long time ... whish i had OSX ... perfect for that :D
[05:24] <maxx1> hmmm trinitrogen that's strange... i've never had anything like that happen
[05:24] <fetus> !bye
[05:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bye - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:24] <fetus> :D
[05:25] <the_rick> !lilo
[05:25] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[05:25] <noobcook> anyway
[05:25] <ctkroeker> I need a program that is suited for hospitals for managing their patients. t can be really simple, just and entry for name, address, ailment, date, etc.
[05:25] <un_operateur> orangey, well, you could uninstall totem-mozilla (or remove the links to it within /usr/lib/firefox/plugins)
[05:25] <the_rick> how in the heck did Lilo get installed instead of Grub?
[05:25] <noobcook> for some reason when i try to login as SU threw terminal it says su: Authentication failure, Sorry.
[05:25] <noobcook> any ideas?
[05:26] <jrib> noobcook: who are you logging in as?
[05:26] <un_operateur> noobcook, the root account is disabled on ubuntu -- that's why
[05:26] <noobcook> are you serious WTF?
[05:26] <jrib> !root | noobcook
[05:26] <ubotu> noobcook: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:26] <noobcook> ahhh
[05:26] <noobcook> lol
[05:26] <noobcook> thanks =)
[05:26] <OrTigaS> now its working...just enable it to repo... thanks
[05:26] <noobcook> now to mount some hds
[05:26] <un_operateur> noobcook, use !sudo -s or sudo -i instead
[05:26] <noobcook> ok
[05:26] <noobcook> cool
[05:26] <noobcook> i must say now that i have ubuntu working i am very impressed
[05:27] <brunogsimoes> how can i use beryl w emerad instead metacity
[05:28] <nikin> hy
[05:28] <brunogsimoes> when i do emerald --replace nothing happends
[05:28] <wastrel> what's emerald
[05:28] <brunogsimoes> window decorator
[05:28] <KubuntuUser> hello?
[05:28] <nikin> can anyone point me out a GIF animation program for ubuntu?
[05:28] <KubuntuUser> try Ktoon
[05:29] <KubuntuUser> google it
[05:29] <brovold> brunogsimoes: i would ask in #beryl if you got any beryl-related issues
[05:29] <wastrel> nikin you can do it in gimp
[05:29] <KubuntuUser> i hamy ubuntu doesnt start
[05:29] <J_P> anyone use SVN or DotProject on Ubuntu ?
[05:29] <nikin> waster: i have installed the GIMP animation package but i coulodnt figure out how its working
[05:30] <jrib> !anyone | J_P
[05:30] <ubotu> J_P: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:30] <nikin> KubuntuUs: ktoon is not in ther repos...
[05:30] <KubuntuUser> it's starting i can see the splash screen but suddenly it just say init: rcS process terminated with status 2
[05:30] <J_P> jrib: good!
[05:31] <KubuntuUser> nikin no its not in the repos but you can downlad it, because gimp is good if you try to do simple animations, if you want to do more flash-like animations need ktoon
[05:31] <wastrel> nikin if you save a multi-layer image as a gif, gimp can save it as a gif animation
[05:31] <J_P> Does anyone know one tutorial to install DotProject and svn + trac on Ubuntu ?
[05:31] <nikin> wasterel: so every frame is a layer?
[05:31] <jrib> orangey: remove totem and install mplayer
[05:31] <KubuntuUser> nikin yes
[05:31] <jrib> !ubuntu-desktop | orangey
[05:31] <un_operateur> KubuntuUser, you'll need to hide the splash screen to see which script init was failing at - and then take it from there
[05:31] <ubotu> orangey: k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[05:32] <nikin> oki: thats enough for me :D Blender will do the rest :D
[05:32] <nikin> ty
[05:32] <ctkroeker> I want to install windows on a the /home patition of an ubuntu installation. Its the middles partition, before  swap and after /. Can I just back up what{s in the home directory, reformat the partion in two parts, one for windows other for /home, copy back the /home contents install windows on the other new patition and fix grub to show both ubuntu and windows option at startup?
[05:32] <KubuntuUser> ctkroeker windows cant handle ext3 partitions
[05:32] <noobcook> does anyone know how to make a directory in the /home/ folder?
[05:33] <Rage_> sudo mkdir fap
[05:33] <un_operateur> noobcook,  sudo mkdir /home/foobar
[05:33] <orangey> jrib: I am going to write this on ubuntuforums, so I would rather not leave people with a 'broken' system.
[05:33] <jrib> orangey: system won't be broken
[05:33] <KubuntuUser> i have problems!
[05:33] <orangey> jrib: I do recognize it's a metapackage, but it seems suboptimal to leave it not installed
[05:33] <KubuntuUser> i cant do anything
[05:33] <Rage_> ctkroeker: unless you get the windows ext2 driver, cant remember the name -- google.
[05:33] <orangey> brb..
[05:33] <jrib> orangey: you can also "touch" the mplayer*.so file in /usr/lib/firefox/ but the first way is better
[05:34] <KubuntuUser> and i can reinstal either my /home folder is not on other partition so i'd lose everything! i have a year of development there
[05:34] <noobcook> and you would type sudo rm -r fap to get rid of it Rage_ ?
[05:34] <ctkroeker> I would just format the parition for windows with gparted as ntfs or fat
[05:34] <ctkroeker> would that work?
[05:34] <KubuntuUser> when trying to boot it says "rcS terminated with status 2" and also "rc2 terminated with status 2"
[05:35] <un_operateur> ctkroeker, you can do two things -- edit /etc/fstab to point /home to another partition or leave /home out of fstab and copy all the contents from the parition which house /home to the /home folder within /
[05:35] <KubuntuUser> neither init 1,2,3,4,5,6 work says the same terminated with status 2
[05:35] <OrTigaS> i'm good for now..... but vlc wont play .rmvb extn :)
[05:36] <ctkroeker> yeah, backing it up is no prob, i'd be doing this from a livecd anyways. Im just wondering if its safe to do what I said....
[05:36] <KubuntuUser> no help for me? i've googled it no results came
[05:36] <KubuntuUser> you dont have to just make another partition linux will handle the doble booth
[05:37] <KubuntuUser> !doble booth
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about doble booth - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <reiki_work> hmmm... updating restricted modules for generic (Edgy) wants to uninstall nvidia-glx?
[05:37] <KubuntuUser> !double booth
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about double booth - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <Agrajag> !dualboot
[05:37] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[05:37] <Rage_> noobcook: yes
[05:37] <KubuntuUser> lol
[05:37] <KubuntuUser> !
[05:37] <un_operateur> ctkroeker, well, it's pretty safe -- but you'll need to reinstall grub later on as windows will have overwritten the MBR
[05:37] <KubuntuUser> well that was what i ment
[05:37] <OrTigaS> 3am already got to go sleep :)..................
[05:38] <noobcook> is setting folder attributes in ubuntu same as linux?
[05:38] <OrTigaS> i'm in dual boot
[05:38] <KubuntuUser> i still have my problem any suggestions?
[05:38] <un_operateur> noobcook, ubuntu is linux :)
[05:38] <noobcook> well with this sudo thing im ready for more supprises
[05:38] <noobcook> lol
[05:38] <KubuntuUser> !distro
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about distro - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <KubuntuUser> !distributions
[05:38] <ubotu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[05:39] <KubuntuUser> this bot doesn't know anything! lol
[05:39] <AciDoArGenTino> hola:)
[05:39] <the_rick> noobcook: I just switched to ubuntu, and other than getting used to sudo, everything has been great
[05:39] <ctkroeker> yeah I new Id have to reinstall grub, I was just worried about playing arround with a partition that is petween to others. But I dont forsee any problems
[05:39] <KubuntuUser> hola acido argentino, te recomiendo que no hables espanol o te pediran "amigablemente" que te vayas a #ubuntu-es
[05:39] <CaRLiNHo_RJ> fromvega, hey =P
[05:40] <noobcook> the_rick yeah i just managed to tweak the installer to install the livecd yeh so far everything is so fast and good O.O and the interfaces are amazing
[05:40] <ctkroeker> thanks
[05:40] <un_operateur> ctkroeker, should be alright, just be _extremely careful_ when installing windows to make sure you don't mess up the other two partitions
[05:40] <AciDoArGenTino> KubuntuUser thanks:)
[05:40] <KubuntuUser> AciDoArGentino para eso estamos
[05:40] <KubuntuUser> well anyone can help me?
[05:41] <ctkroeker> yeah, Ill have to label it an write the size down on paper to remember it. thanks
[05:41] <un_operateur> KubuntuUser, did you do as i suggested ?
[05:41] <KubuntuUser> un_operator i'm afraid i didnt see it, let me scroll up
[05:42] <KubuntuUser> un_operateur now i did, i tried to do it on recovery mode... not very much info actually
[05:43] <rubiaza_wapa> fj
[05:43] <un_operateur> KubuntuUser, what i meant was -- you hide the splash screen so you get init spit out output to the screen -- hopefully then you'll get an idea as to what i failing
[05:45] <the_rick> !xfs
[05:45] <KubuntuUser> un_operateur well it beggins to run /scripts/init-botom... well actually it ends it it says Done then just says "init: rcS process (1919) terminated with status 2"
[05:45] <ubotu> xfs: X font server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 53 kB, installed size 192 kB
[05:45] <AciDoArGenTino> KubuntuUser sorry:), what's the bouble booth?
[05:45] <the_rick> !ext3
[05:45] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[05:45] <MagiqueM> i need ubuntu patches for kernel...i need them to apply to another kernel source
[05:45] <MagiqueM> where can i find them
[05:45] <MagiqueM> ?
[05:45] <the_rick> !reiserfs
[05:45] <ubotu> reiserfs is a journalling file system, in benchmarks it outperforms many others on I/O operations, but they take notoriously long to mount.
[05:46] <Dimensions> hiya Can we Install Ubuntu Directly on Mac mini Intel i386 ???
[05:46] <the_rick> !jfs
[05:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:46] <MarcC> can anybody suggest why my Nautilus scripts like extract-here and convert-to-png won't work? Permissions seem fine.
[05:46] <KubuntuUser> AciDoArGenTino lol, in english it's dual boot lol!
[05:47] <noobcook> hmm
[05:47] <noobcook> how do i add read write and execute permissions to a folder
[05:47] <noobcook> i thoguht its chmod r+ow
[05:47] <un_operateur> noobcook, chmod a+rwx /path/to/folder
[05:47] <AciDoArGenTino> my english is very poor:s i just try to learn
[05:47] <KubuntuUser> thee other way around o(stands for owener) +r
[05:47] <noobcook> ty
[05:48] <kane77> hi... how do I set up a network through ethernet...?
[05:48] <noobcook> meh un_operateur thats not working
[05:48] <geokok> hi. What way other than using "loki installer" is there for removing apps such as Google Earth?
[05:48] <noobcook> when i try to double click it with gui it says i dont have the correct permissions
[05:49] <TCrafte1> noobcook - are you trying to change permissions for the owner, the group, or everyone?
[05:49] <noobcook> everyone
[05:49] <K1M1^Linux> Hello, would like to ask if anyone has any knowlege how to patch and update pb - enemy territoty game ???
[05:49] <K1M1^Linux> pliz pm me
[05:49] <un_operateur> noobcook, chmod 777 /path/to/folder
[05:49] <FactTech> noobcook You can't change permissions if you don't have permission.
[05:49] <UstasW> hi
[05:50] <FactTech> noobcook Did you try sudo?
[05:50] <noobcook> yep
[05:50] <rioghal> FactTech, good catch
[05:50] <TCrafte1> kane77: That's a very broad question.  Can you tell us a bit more about what you've done so far, and what's stumping you?
[05:50] <AciDoArGenTino> KubuntuUser and you say double booth too, see the log:D
[05:50] <noobcook> "david@david-desktop:~$ sudo chmod 777 win
[05:50] <noobcook> chmod: changing permissions of `win': Read-only file system
[05:50] <noobcook> "
[05:51] <kane77> TCrafte1, well so far I've pluged in the ethernet cable...
[05:51] <un_operateur> KubuntuUser, ok, well, herrre's what i would do if i were you -- boot into recovery mode (single user or knoppix, etc) .. purge-remove and reinstall initscripts and sysvinit
[05:51] <kane77> TCrafte1, both machines running linux (one is ubuntu dapper one xubutnu edgy...)
[05:51] <LiteWait> just upgraded to edgy... now grub has a pile of entries.  what is the difference between 2.6.17.10 and 2.6.15.27 ?
[05:51] <un_operateur> noobcook, err, is that an NTFS parition?
[05:51] <noobcook> yeh it is
[05:51] <TCrafte1> kane77: Is that an Ethernet cable that runs straight from one computer to the other?
[05:52] <un_operateur> LiteWait, just different kernels .. one newer than the other :)
[05:52] <kane77> TCrafte1, yes...
[05:52] <un_operateur> noobcook, did you install a ntfs read/write package?
[05:52] <noobcook> umm
[05:52] <noobcook> whats the command to check that
[05:52] <geokok>  hi. What way other than using "loki installer" is there for removing apps such as Google Earth?
[05:52] <UstasW> not sure
[05:52] <kane77> TCrafte1, you might be thinking I' dumb but I'm not... its pinging alright...
[05:52] <KubuntuUser> un_operateur apt-get --puge init*?
[05:53] <KubuntuUser> un_operateur apt-get --purge init*?
[05:53] <TCrafte1> kane77: You can't connect to computers straight to each other w/ a normal Ethernet cable.  It's odd that it's pinging.
[05:53] <un_operateur> noobcook, well, it's probably safe to assue you haven't installed one -- try !ntfs-3g
[05:53] <TCrafte1> Normally, you need to have a hub or a switch involved.
[05:53] <un_operateur> !ntfs-3g | noobcook
[05:53] <ubotu> noobcook: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[05:53] <K1M1^Linux> Hello, would like to ask if anyone has any knowledge how to patch and update pb - enemy territoty game ??? Pliz qry me...ty
[05:53] <kane77> TCrafte1, why couldn't you?
[05:53] <TCrafte1> Or you need to use a crossover cable.
[05:53] <FactTech> noobcook Are you trying to change the permissions setting in Windows using Linux?
[05:53] <kane77> TCrafte1, yes I have cross...
[05:53] <n2diy> kane77: wha addresses are you pinging?
[05:53] <TCrafte1> OH, OK!
[05:53] <noobcook> factTech im just trying to access it
[05:53] <un_operateur> KubuntuUser, this might work better -- sudo sh -c "aptitude purge sysvinit initscripts; aptitude install sysvinit initscripts"
[05:54] <TCrafte1> So the computers are pinging each other, so technically you DO have a network - what are you trying to do, share files?  Or something else?
[05:54] <kane77> n2diy, I set one computer to use 192.168.77.1 and the other to use 192.168.77.10
[05:54] <KubuntuUser> un_operteur i hope it works
[05:54] <TCrafte1> Also, I don't think you're dumb; folks are in here to learn, including myself.
[05:54] <n2diy> kane77: ok, as long as they weren't 127.0.0.1!
[05:54] <un_operateur> noobcook, by default, ubuntu doesn't have ntfs-write functionality -- so if you mount an ntfs drive, it probably is read-only at that point until you install something like ntfs-3g
[05:55] <kane77> n2diy, okay but how can I see contents of second computer?
[05:55] <kane77> n2diy, wait what's the command to see the screen?
[05:55] <KubuntuUser> ok
[05:55] <un_operateur> kane77, use something like !samba or an ftp server
[05:55] <noobcook> un_operateur that makes a lot of sense
[05:55] <n2diy> kane77: I don't know, but my network is at the same stage yours is, except I have a router.
[05:56] <TCrafte1> Samba isn't the best option here, IMO, since both computers are running Linux.
[05:56] <ebiven> I have to be missing something incredibly stupid.  I have a 6.06 server and can't get it to mount USB drives, but I can't find anything on the web describing why.
[05:56] <Xbehave> does anybody use the latest wine from wine repositories?
[05:56] <TCrafte1> Xbehave - I'm running 9.28, but not 9.29.  Why?
[05:57] <kane77> so now what I would like to do is to share an internet connection...
[05:57] <Xbehave> how do you get the gpg key, i cant find it anywhere
[05:57] <noobcook> meh
[05:57] <kane77> friend of mine told me it could be set up in iptables...
[05:57] <noobcook> i have to update everything before i can install it
[05:57] <un_operateur> TCrafte1, errm, samba works, which is all that matters :)
[05:57] <n2diy> kane77: I just spent hours trying to do that too.
[05:58] <Jowi> kane77, yes. easiest way is to use firestarter frontend for iptables
[05:58] <Jowi> !firestarter | kane77
[05:58] <ubotu> kane77: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[05:58] <noobcook> alright off to bed
[05:58] <joe__> say i have two xvid avi files --- how do i merge them?
[05:58] <`rich> about firestarter - if you close the GUI, does it pull the firewall down too?
[05:58] <noobcook> laters all ty for help operateur and the other guy =p
[05:58] <Jowi> no rich
[05:58] <`rich> Jowi-  thought not, ty
[05:59] <rioghal> `rich, no, iptables still runs
[05:59] <un_operateur> `rich, no, it's job is to configure the iptables .. if it closes the tables still exist unless they are pulled down too
[05:59] <Dimensions> Hiya ... i have just tried to install Ubuntu on my Mac ... deleted all partitioned it almost got installed but at grub it gave error and every thing vanished ... i get nothing on it now ...
[05:59] <TCrafte1> kane77: Actually, since I haven't used NFS (the typical Unix-to-Unix filesharing protocol), and it seems more complex than I thought, I'm going to recommend Samba after all.  Or FTP, as un_operateur suggested.
[05:59] <kane77> how does it work (internet sharing) will I be able to use internet while my sister uses it on the second computer?
[05:59] <TCrafte1> Samba setup is in ubuntuguides.org, and is simpler than the NFS instructions I found.
[05:59] <TCrafte1> Ah - file sharing and Internet sharing are different...
[06:00] <Jowi> kane77, yes. both computers will be able to use it
[06:00] <kane77> Jowi, (very happy) :D
[06:00] <n2diy> Jowi: ok, I have firestarter here, set up to share the connection, and it won't. But, I have a weird setup, the internet interface is a 56k external modem, and the lan side is an ethernet card.
[06:00] <TCrafte1> XBehave - I don't think there IS a gpg key :(  I agonized about this, but installed anyway.
[06:01] <saohh> is someone in here?
[06:01] <Xbehave> np then id doesnt bother me much just wanted to make sure
[06:01] <un_operateur> n2diy, ok, so what troubleshooting have you done so far (if any?) ??
[06:01] <rioghal> saohh, there are 1,011 someone's in here 
[06:01] <mnoir> !anyone | saohh
[06:01] <ubotu> saohh: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:01] <Jowi> n2diy, I never shared a dial-up connection before. I will launch firestarter and see what I can find. I will have to leave in a while though
[06:01] <kane77> Jowi, even if the second uses windows? (i think it shouldn't be problem, but you'll never know)
[06:01] <saohh> ok nice guys it seems, this is not my first try with linux so...
[06:02] <n2diy> Jowi, roger that, I've been at this for hours, so I need to bail soon too.
[06:02] <un_operateur> Kanafani, it doesnt matter what OS the clients use , just as long as they understand and talk tcp/ip
[06:02] <saohh> i got a problem, installed edgy and it seems like my monitor doesnt work with a resolution above 800x600
[06:03] <un_operateur> n2diy, can the clients ping the gateway?
[06:03] <n2diy> Un_operator, obviously I pinged them, from both sides of the router, that is ok. I'm still here, so the modem is working, I did forward port 80.
[06:03] <rioghal> saohh, What do you mean by "doesn't work"? Are you not able to select a higher res?
[06:03] <saohh> no only 800x600 to choose rofl
[06:04] <un_operateur> n2diy, so the clients can ping the internet-connection server (hereby known as ICS) ?
[06:04] <sektor> url for basic terminal commands please anyone?
[06:04] <n2diy> un_operateur: Well, what is the gateway? I have the box with the modem on it set up as the DMZ.
[06:04] <kane77> the firestarter setup use masquerade by default?
[06:04] <saohh> i tried to set only 1280x1024 as only resolution in xorg.conf but it crashes my xwindow
[06:04] <rioghal> saohh, You may be interested in the last part of !fixres
[06:04] <un_operateur> n2diy, gateway here is the machine sharing the connection
[06:04] <n2diy> Umm, I haven't tried pinging externally, can I ping my DNS server?
[06:04] <kane77> (will the isp only see my computer?)
[06:05] <Jowi> n2diy, in firestarter preferences. you have Network Settings . in it you have "Internet connected network device" and "Local network connected device". Internet one should be your modem and the Local one the ethernet card that the other computer connects to. is your setup like that?
[06:05] <saohh> whats this fixres rioghal?
[06:05] <rioghal> !fixres
[06:05] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:05] <n2diy> Jowi, yes.
[06:05] <un_operateur> n2diy, well, first things first -- make sure the client have IP configured properly -- IP addresses and default gateways .. and make sure they can ping all machines locally
[06:05] <kane77> horaaayyy! it WORKS!! :D
[06:05] <pally> anyone is using wireless network under ubuntu at CMU?
[06:05] <Jowi> n2diy, is "Enable Internet connection sharing" and DHCP ticked?
[06:05] <kane77> pally, I am
[06:06] <n2diy> un_operateur: I can do that, everyone can ping everyone else, including the rounter.
[06:06] <pally> cool
[06:06] <n2diy> Jowi: yep.
[06:06] <un_operateur> n2diy, if they can, then you should try pinging hosts on the internet, i'd start with the default gateway of the ICS .. the one of the modem
[06:06] <saohh> what a answer is this? i ask what is fixres! ? and you say fixres! ?!?!? grmpf
[06:06] <Jowi> n2diy, why is DHCP enabled? what are your router doing?
[06:06] <n2diy> un_operateur: ok, can I ping there DNS servers?
[06:06] <un_operateur> n2diy, well, try, can you?
[06:07] <rioghal> saohh, Did you see the post by ubotu ?
[06:07] <pally> i'm whispering you kane77
[06:07] <n2diy> Jowi, I enabled that because I found a website that suggested it.
[06:07] <kane77> Jowi, is this setting of iptables saved (so that I restart it will stay the same...)?? how do I make it start it (iptables or whatever it is) when the ubuntu start, no matter if i login or not...
[06:07] <un_operateur> n2diy, well, if you enabled DHCP, are the clients recieving IP addresses via DHCP??
[06:08] <saohh> iam reading it now, sry man
[06:08] <Jowi> n2diy, your router also have a DHCP server, remember. it is probably enabled as well. turn it off in firestarter since it is not a direct connection to another computer or a switch.
[06:09] <Jowi> kane77, iptables are always enabled
[06:09] <kane77> Jowi, does firestarter save the settings?
[06:09] <kane77> Jowi, do I need it running after I set it up?
[06:10] <un_operateur> Jowi, he has no router here .. well, his machine would be the router and no harm in having multiple DHCP servers, the first one encountered always answers
[06:10] <FactTech> sektor This might get you started: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=812448
[06:10] <n2diy> un_operateur: I can ping my DNS server with this box, but the one on the router can't. I'll turn off DHCP in firestarter.
[06:10] <pally>  anyone is using wireless network under ubuntu at CMU? I got problem
[06:10] <kane77> what problem?
[06:11] <gandalfcome> does anyone have experience with ati and multiscreen here (especially mouse pointer offset). thanks in advance
[06:11] <Jowi> un_operateur, both dhcp servers will broadcast
[06:11] <un_operateur> n2diy, well, can the clients ping the same DNS server?? and if your router isn't working as one in this context, please stop referrring to it as a router :)
[06:11] <Jowi> un_operateur, (the same range)
[06:11] <un_operateur> Jowi, DHCP servers don't broadcasst, the clients do ..
[06:11] <pally> the wireless network disconnects and re-connect every 1 min
[06:11] <pally> kane77, i'm whisperin ya
[06:12] <Jowi> un_operateur, hm, you're right. the server only reply to the request.
[06:12] <un_operateur> Jowi, that shouldnt harm anything, dhcp servers ping an address before assigning it to a lease, so multiple DHCP servers can co-exist
[06:12] <n2diy> un_operateur: Jowi, ok, I disabled dhcp in firestarter, and no change, the box can't ping externally, only internally.
[06:13] <un_operateur> n2diy, the box?? what machine is that then?
[06:13] <pally> and i'm suffering from the dis/re connect problem now, i prob miss many messages
[06:13] <Jowi> un_operateur, theoretically speaking (and I'm only elaborating here). let's say that the router is the first one to respond to the request, I guess that the router is set up to be the gateway - what do you think?
[06:13] <saohh> hmm this is exactly what i tried, only thing i mentioned is that my xorg.conf doesnt show any horiz.sync and vert. refresh. Ubuntu did find my benq fp91gx
[06:13] <n2diy> The box behind the router, this one is in the dmz, and can ping externally.
[06:13] <madcheeze> hey guys..
[06:13] <madcheeze> i need some help soo bad
[06:14] <n2diy> un_operateur:  The box behind the router, this one is in the dmz, and can ping externally.
[06:14] <kane77> !ask | madcheeze
[06:14] <ubotu> madcheeze: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:14] <saohh> rof, ubotu ... shame on me too
[06:14] <madcheeze> i have ubuntu 6.1 on my notebook, and i have the kernel patch on it, but i cant install it
[06:14] <madcheeze> its on the cd
[06:14] <madcheeze> how?
[06:14] <Eysto> Hello
[06:14] <un_operateur> Jowi, ok, well, fair enough -- you make a valid point about soho routers .. they're a little odd -- it's best if DHCP is turned off then
[06:15] <saohh> seems like everyone starts with an: i got a problem, i need help, i got a question... lol
[06:15] <gandalfcome> does anyone have experience with ati and multiscreen here (especially mouse pointer offset). thanks in advance
[06:15] <madcheeze> saohh sorry man
[06:15] <Mikey> i neeeeeeeeeeeed heeeeeeeeeeeeelp, aaaaaaaaarrrrrrr please help meeeeeee =P
[06:15] <un_operateur> n2diy, ok, let's get a few things right here -- i'm a little confused -- what's the IP address scheme locally? is the ICS server on the same subnet as it's clients?
[06:15] <kane77> saohh, sometimes there's normal conversation going on too...
[06:15] <Eysto> I got problems to connect to the internet (I got wifi) each time I reboot. Now I'm connected, I want to know how I can save all my network config to auto reconnect next reboot please ?
[06:16] <pally> My ubuntu wireless network got disconnection and reconnection every 1 min at CMU Campus, and it didn't happen when at home, or using WinXp at Campus...any ideas?
[06:16] <SoulChild> should i deactivate fsck at boot?
[06:16] <madcheeze> can someone give the terminal commands to install my kernel patch?
[06:16] <Mikey> !ask | Mikey
[06:16] <ubotu> Mikey: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:16] <n2diy> un_operateur: yes, they are all on 192.168.1.x.
[06:16] <ovan> whats up?
[06:16] <saohh> i only read lets say 10 peoples names, what about the other 990 users in here, just listening?
[06:16] <kane77> madcheeze, you have ubuntu installed on disk? (i didn't quite get that)
[06:16] <madcheeze> !kernel patch
[06:16] <n2diy> un_operateur: except, the ICS is in the DMZ.
[06:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernel patch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <un_operateur> n2diy, and the "router" here is just connecting all these machines up? it doesnt differentiate between different subnets, does it?
[06:17] <zazou> where can i see  all sound device in ubuntu i have problem with tvtuner
[06:17] <madcheeze> can someone help me install a kernel patch
[06:17] <Mikey> guys, my wifi card keeps dropping out, and talking ubuntu with it :( how can i diagnose the porblem?
[06:17] <n2diy> un_operateur: if it does, I don't know how to set the up.
[06:17] <un_operateur> n2diy, errm, by DMZ i suppose you configured the "router" to put that IP address in the DMZ? am i right?
[06:17] <riotkittie> oohh. if all 900+ were active in here at once... ::cringe::
[06:18] <laz0r> madcheeze: patch
[06:18] <madcheeze> yea, update..
[06:18] <reiki_work> some of us just lurk for extended periods of time :)
[06:18] <laz0r> madcheeze: thats the name of the command to patch your kernel
[06:18] <madcheeze> laz0r, an update
[06:18] <n2diy> un_operateur: yes, this box, with the modem on it, is in the DMZ.
[06:18] <saohh> mikey: i got wlan working here with atheros chipset
[06:18] <ovan> how can i update dapper drake?
[06:18] <ovan> does somebody know?
[06:18] <SoulChild> ovan: system -> preferences-> update
[06:18] <saohh> isnt ubuntu able to do an apt-get update?
[06:18] <ovan> thx
[06:19] <laz0r> madcheeze: you've got a patch file right? and a kernel source tree?
[06:19] <madcheeze> laz0r yep
[06:19] <madcheeze> i have the file
[06:19] <un_operateur> n2diy, ok, you shouldnt be doing that -- you dont need any DMZ's here -- your "router" here should only be connecting all the machines up, so let's stop referring to it as a "router" and call it a "switch" instead .. atleast for the purposes of this context
[06:19] <SoulChild> anyone that knows how to deactivate fsck at startup
[06:19] <FactTech> zazou Did you check Device Manager?
[06:19] <Jowi> n2diy, the DMZ make no difference in a LAN. since the router is not handling the outside connection it is only a switch (with dhcp server) now. let's say that modem is connected to PC1. PC2 is connected to the router. what is the ip address, subnet and gateway of PC2 ?
[06:19] <Mikey> saohh: my card is based on rt2500 chipset, and it works, just drops out, and crashed ubuntu unless i unplug it in time
[06:20] <un_operateur> n2diy, please undo the DMZ settings on the router.. so that it doesnt confuse itself or the clients
[06:20] <saohh> mikey: pcmcia, pci, usb?
[06:20] <Mikey> pcmcia?
[06:20] <Eysto> I got problems to connect to the internet (I got wifi) each time I reboot. Now I'm connected, I want to know how I can save all my network config to auto reconnect next reboot please ?
[06:20] <Mikey> pcmcia !!! *
[06:20] <n2diy> un_operator, ok, just FYI, and tell the router to be a gateway.
[06:20] <laz0r> madcheeze: ok, now the patch file just describes what should be changed and where, you apply it by using the patch command, something like this cat patchfile | patch -p0
[06:20] <saohh> not good, ive read about such problems with pcmcia only sry pci is working good ;(
[06:21] <laz0r> madcheeze: executed in the source tree directory
[06:21] <un_operateur> n2diy, no no, please stop referring to that "router" as a router, it's not .. your ICS is the router now  :)
[06:21] <madcheeze> source tree directory?
[06:21] <n2diy> Jovi, the second box is 198.162.1.2, mask is 255.255.255.0, and the gateway is blank.
[06:21] <Jowi> n2diy, PC1 should be the gateway
[06:22] <un_operateur> n2diy, every client here should have a gateway -- i.e. the IP address of the ICS machine
[06:22] <madcheeze> if i have the patch file on the cd, how do i get it to just look at the cd and patch it?
[06:22] <adx> anyone know of a good rss feed reader that sits on the desktop?
[06:22] <laz0r> madcheeze: the kernel sources you wanna patch, please make a backup before you apply the patch, and use my name when you say something to me so i'll see it
[06:22] <Mikey> saohh: yes it is pcmcia, sorry fro my tyop
[06:22] <Jowi> n2diy, un_operateur sorry I must leave for awhile. good luck guys.
[06:22] <n2diy> Jowi, ok, and I transposed the address on the last post. So this box is the gateway, not the router.
[06:22] <kane77> i set the iptables, however, does my ISP see the second computer, thats sharing the internet connection?
[06:22] <un_operateur> adx, yassr
[06:22] <n2diy> Jowi, ok, and I transposed the address on the last post. So this box is the gateway, not the router.
[06:22] <saohh> maybe this helps you, but i think its included in ubuntu: http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
[06:22] <nn531> is there a way to install ubuntu and not install the movie player or rhythmbox or anything like that and then install it when I need it?
[06:22] <n2diy> Jowi, ok, thanks.
[06:23] <un_operateur> Jowi, ok, we'll brave on :) thanks
[06:23] <|capiira> anyone know a way to restore gnomes original quit restart buttons & panel?
[06:23] <johan_> IS it only me who has problem loging on to the ubuntuforums? (Can any one verify this, say by removing your password-cookies and try loging on)
[06:23] <shack> Hey there, I got 16/9 monitor and I should be able to adjust my screenresolution to 1440*900. I have radeon7000 card. How can I do this? I only have 4/3 resolutions selectable.
[06:23] <madcheeze> laz0r, i dont think i have the right thing, since it wont do it automated..
[06:23] <FactTech> ubotu tell FactTech about ubotu
[06:23] <madcheeze> laz0r, last time, i installed ubuntu, it went like butter... so i think i dont have the right file
[06:23] <n2diy> un_operator, let me go configure the gateway on box 2, and give you a yell when I'm done.
[06:24] <kane77> |capiira, killall gnome-pannel would refresh it
[06:24] <Mikey> saohh: yes ive looked at all the wikies and howtos. its just that i think its partly defected hardware (i still want to use it like)
[06:24] <Xbehave> shack you may have to add modes to ure xorg.conf or if youve never edited it you can run a script to configure it
[06:24] <madcheeze> where can i get a new kernel for edgy?
[06:24] <pally> My wireless network under Ubuntu works well. However, when I'm using it at CMU Campus, it disconnects and reconnects every 1 min. This doesn't happen if I'm using ubuntu wirelessly at home. Also if I'm using WinXP at CMU Campus, it's okay too. So the problem only happens when I'm using ubuntu wirelessly at CMU Campus. Any of you is aware of this kind problem? or have any suggestion howto solve it?
[06:24] <un_operateur> n2diy, ok
[06:24] <kane77> i set the iptables, however, does my ISP see the second computer, thats sharing the internet connection?
[06:24] <|capiira> nah im ean to restore the look
[06:24] <|capiira> mean
[06:24] <Eysto> I got problems to connect to the internet (I got wifi) each time I reboot. Now I'm connected, I want to know how I can save all my network config to auto reconnect next reboot please ?
[06:24] <mnoir> kane77: i have not followed all you msgs but if you are using masq, the isp only sees one connection
[06:24] <adx> un_operateur: can't find yassr on google..
[06:24] <madcheeze> !kernel
[06:24] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[06:24] <laz0r> madcheeze: ic
[06:24] <shack> Xbehave, I tried it but my computer didn't show to resolutions
[06:25] <shack> to=those*
[06:25] <saohh> mikey: look at the version of ubuntus serialmonkey driver, if its older try to update to newest or build it on your own from page i posted before
[06:25] <johan_> IS it only me who has problem loging on to the ubuntuforums? (Can any one verify this, say by removing your password-cookies and try loging on)
[06:25] <shack> should I install some radeon drivers to add those resolutions?
[06:25] <tbrown> Hi all - installed updates flgrx-control, restricted-modules, xorg-driver-fglrx, xserver-xorg-core, now my system keeps locking up, suggestions please?
 how do I check for masq? (enable it)
[06:25] <deeon> hi @ all
[06:26] <saohh> mikey: other solution try to walk to: www.ixsoft.com and buy an linux compatible working wlan card, best is atheros chipset ;)
[06:26] <un_operateur> adx, oops, my mistake -- it'd be YARSSR .. sorry
[06:26] <Xbehave> do you have the modes in your xorg?
[06:26] <shack> I have 19"wide now, but I'll be getting LG 22" at february so I should be able to adjust some higher resolutions also
[06:26] <shack> Xbehave, I didn't have but I added them
[06:26] <deeon> i've a problem with the -fglrx-driver, he is installed, fglrxinfo shows me the right output but 3d doesn't work :-/
[06:26] <Eysto> I got problems to connect to the internet (I got wifi) each time I reboot. Now I'm connected, I want to know how I can save all my network config to auto reconnect next reboot please ?
[06:26] <mnoir> kane - that would have all been done by using firestarter, or you need to correctly do it in iptables.  there is a howto at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[06:26] <riotkittie> johan_: i just tried in elinks ... was able to login fine
[06:26] <un_operateur> adx, IIRC, ubuntu has yarssr in it's repositories too
[06:27] <shack> tought I deleted other resolutions from there so that might be the problem I didn't get any results
 Ok, thanks for trying. Have to try elinks than... Thanks!
[06:27] <shack> but should't I install some drivers (catalyst) etc?
[06:27] <shack> ^nyyb
[06:27] <Xbehave> i use nvidia and know how to install binary drivers, im not sure which drivers you can install for your card
[06:27] <mnoir> kane77: i use a separate firewall device so i do not have the same setup but this all does work pretty well once defined :)
[06:28] <shack> Xbehave, I have the same problem ;)
[06:28] <adx> un_operateur: is it capable of displaying images? oh and i don't use ubuntu, its community is very helpful though
[06:28] <Mikey> !wifi | Mikey
[06:28] <ubotu> Mikey: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:28] <kane77> mnoir, thanx
[06:28] <laz0r> Eysto: as far as i know there is no way the 'save' your setup, you have to write it all up in /etc/network/interfaces
[06:28] <laz0r> Eysto: or maybe write a little shellscript that will do anything you need
[06:28] <un_operateur> adx, errm, i dont think so, it's basically just grabs the headers off of feeds
[06:28] <mnoir> kane77: keep talking so's we know yer still alive :)
[06:29] <kane77> mnoir, yes still alive :D
[06:29] <|capiira> on what is ubuntu based? stable, testing or sid ?
[06:29] <kane77> mnoir, i set it with firestarter, do I need it anymore running?
[06:29] <un_operateur> |capiira, it's based on itself :)
[06:29] <mnoir> !debian | |capiira
[06:29] <ubotu> |capiira: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship
[06:29] <K1M1^Linux> I downloaded update for aMSN and have it on my desktop, and now dont know how to update it true terminal maybe ?
[06:29] <mnoir> kane77: i am not sure - did you look at that howto?
[06:30] <itanshi> morning
[06:30] <n2diy> un_operator, box 2 wouldn't accept box 1 as the gateway, so I set it to the router, and it was happy. Nothing else has changed.
 oh... elinks/lynx not directly what I had in mind... :) thanks anyway.
[06:30] <|capiira> if there a way to remove those fade in and fade outs of gnome ?
[06:30] <kane77> mnoir, yes that's a howto set it up without firestarter...
[06:30] <itanshi> i did another bout of searching for a broadcom 2200 driver ^^ anyone have a guss?
[06:30] <un_operateur> |capiira, i think of it like this -- debian has loads of packages which they then group together to form their own distros .. ubuntu takes most of them, modifies them, adds it's own few and groups them together to make it's own distros
[06:30] <mnoir> lower down somebody talks about the setup using firestarter
[06:30] <Xbehave> this might help http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28ATI.29
[06:31] <K1M1^Linux> I downloaded update for aMSN and have it on my desktop, and now dont know how to update it true terminal maybe ?
[06:31] <shack> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI <-should this work with my card?
[06:31] <|capiira> ahh ok
[06:31] <un_operateur> n2diy, what OS is box two running? and what IP addresses are you using?
[06:31] <muroxsm> f
[06:31] <muroxsm> sadasdsa
[06:31] <mnoir> kane77: look at entry # 10
[06:31] <muroxsm> hi
[06:33] <kane77> mnoir, would you know how to correct iptable in case something gone wrong?
[06:33] <riotkittie> just did it in firefox. also no problem.
[06:33] <Xbehave> not sure but i think so
[06:33] <Mba7eth> hi everybody ..... can i repartition a current working partition .... I tried parted but it says i must unmount first but i really can't cuz its the / director ( i have only one partition for this PC + a swap ) ANY recommandations ????????????????????
[06:33] <kharloss> hi there
[06:34] <FactTech> !synaptic | FactTech
[06:34] <ubotu> FactTech: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[06:34] <kharloss> http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=72950
[06:34] <kharloss> i have this problem
[06:34] <kharloss> any ideea ?
[06:34] <FactTech> !gnome-app-install | FactTech
[06:34] <ubotu> gnome-app-install: GNOME Application Installer. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.21 (edgy), package size 174 kB, installed size 1012 kB
[06:34] <kharloss> ubuntu neither recognize my seagate drives  with RAID function enabled  in bios
[06:35] <Mba7eth> Anybody !!! suggestions ???????????????????????? for my Q ?
[06:35] <Mba7eth> please :)
[06:36] <un_operateur> kharloss, errm, that's like sitting on a branch and sawing it off at the base .. you'll need to use parted from withing a live CD or the like
[06:36] <alecjw> Mba7eth: no you can't. the gparted livecd might be what you're looking fo
[06:36] <FactTech> Mba7eth You might be able to do this if you boot off of the LiveCD.
[06:36] <jeanjean> Mba7eth, how did you try it ? With live cd ?
[06:36] <laz0r> kharloss: are the drives not recognized or is the RAID not recognized?
[06:36] <florg> has anyone managed to install valknut 0.3.8 from source?
[06:36] <|capiira> so nobody know how to disable the gnome fade effect when you need to type a password or when you quit?
[06:36] <bradley> my desktop hasn't loaded... the background image and the icons are missing.  how do i reload it?
[06:37] <tbrown> Is there anyway to undo updates?  Updates to ATI and X seem to have destablized my system?
[06:37] <bradley> |capiira, i hate that effect... i was looking for a way to disable it a while ago and never found anything.
[06:37] <alecjw> bradley: close all aps, thne poress ctrl+alt+bksp
[06:37] <|capiira> yeah i hate it too
[06:37] <|capiira> feels slow and it fades into some kind of 8 bit
[06:37] <kharloss> laz0r : if i dont enable in BIOS  raid funcction , my hdd`s are recognized ...
[06:37] <bradley> alecjw, that will reload xorg... is there a way to just load the desktop?
[06:38] <mnoir> kane77: man iptables     is you friend.  to eliminate all rules read about the -F parameter
[06:38] <un_operateur> |capiira, errm, not that i know how to do that -- but you shouldn't be trying to disable that, it's needed to other windows don't grab keys when you type in your password, etc
[06:38] <alecjw> Mba7eth: burn this to a cd and boot from it: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=115843&package_id=173828 - it boots from a cd, maening that none of the partitions need bne active
[06:38] <kane77> mnoir, it works anyway... :D
[06:38] <mnoir> kane77: also, prolly good to aviod using manual rules and firestarter
[06:38] <|capiira> ah ok
[06:38] <mnoir> kane77: it works??
[06:39] <mnoir> kane - all you wanted to do?
[06:39] <kharloss> if you take a look at mainboard description ... it suport this raid function
[06:39] <n2diy> un_operateur: all the boxes are using 6.06, box 1 is s192.168.1.2, and box 2 is 192.168.1.3, the router is 1.1.
[06:39] <kane77> mnoir, yes... I was adding the masq rule
[06:39] <bradley> |capiira, it is linked to gksudo.  i assume synaptic (and other apps) run it. you can work around it by using sudo instead of gksudo but it would mean making a launcher for the apps that use gksudo
[06:39] <mnoir> kane77: good!
[06:39] <alecjw> bradley: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop, but it's pretty much the same as resatarting xorg. it actually reestarts gnome, but it's pretty much the same thing
[06:39] <juano> tbrown: usually dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg can help
[06:39] <kane77> mnoir, still not sure if the masquerade is working... but I believe...
[06:39] <laz0r> kharloss: ok, then you must disable the raid functionality to use linux. the raid on your mobo is most likely not a real hardware raid, its in software, via the drivers
[06:39] <itanshi> google is failing me, where is the broadcom 2200 wireless driver?
[06:39] <|capiira> ahhh ok
[06:39] <un_operateur> n2diy, and i assume they are all using the same subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 ??
[06:40] <n2diy> un_operateur: yes.
[06:40] <juano> alecjw: thats if you cant get into X
[06:40] <FactTech> |capiira There are a few people out there looking for a way to disable this, according to Google.
[06:40] <kitche> itanshi: you sure it's not bcm43xx?
[06:40] <madcheeze> hello madcheeze is back
[06:40] <kharloss> yes , but i heard some people use this "fake" raid funtion in linux too
[06:40] <itanshi> i'll look for it
[06:40] <madcheeze> i am stuck on my kernel patch
[06:40] <bradley> alecjw, cheers. (i guess a person has to do what a person has to do-- and i have to restart X)
[06:40] <|capiira> i hope they fix that in the future
[06:40] <madcheeze> where can i get one that is pretty much automated for my notebook
[06:41] <un_operateur> n2diy, errm, i wonder why your box won't take 192.168.1.2 as a gateway then -- something's not right
[06:41] <alecjw> bradley: lol
[06:41] <laz0r> kharloss: if you want to use a raid under linux, you have to use linux software raid (which will not be recognized by windows) or buy a hardware raid controller (which are quite expensive)
[06:41] <un_operateur> |capiira, errm, did you listen to what i said? :)
[06:41] <SoulChild> how to deactivate fsck at boot?
[06:41] <n2diy> un_operateur: do I need to tell this box it is the gateway?
[06:41] <|capiira> fix by adding a fade that looks like 24bit color and speed up the fading
[06:41] <madcheeze> need help with a kernel update
[06:41] <madcheeze> I need the latest kernel for ubuntu edgy
[06:41] <|capiira> or simply instant lock without fade effect
[06:42] <root____> kharloss: hardware raid controllers are not expensive
[06:42] <un_operateur> n2diy, if you want the clients to get on the internet, they need to make this one the gateway
[06:42] <laz0r> madcheeze: whats your exact problem?
[06:42] <kharloss> i`ll check a hardware provider
[06:42] <alecjw> Mba7eth: did that help?
[06:42] <|capiira> at 1024 its fast but on 1940 is super slow
[06:42] <FactTech> un_operateur Not sure I understand what you mean about preventing key grabs. Can you elaborate?
[06:42] <kharloss> to buy a hardware raid controler
[06:42] <n2diy> un_operateur: doing it now.
[06:42] <madcheeze> laz0r: i need a kernel update that i can put on cd or dvd and patch my kernel
[06:42] <Mba7eth> okey guys thanx for your valuable info i'll try the livecd :) thanx again
[06:42] <tbrown> juano: thx for the tip, will check it out
[06:43] <adx> what's another word for widget?
[06:43] <engonmar> ola
[06:43] <|capiira> yeah he meam if your accidentally the wrong windows activated and tipe the pass and enter
[06:43] <|capiira> n
[06:43] <SoulChild> HELLO, how can i deactivate fsck at boot?
[06:43] <pike_> i write a script for him and he leaves.. *grumbles*
[06:43] <laz0r> kharloss: mmh, then download an .deb from archive.ubuntu.org
[06:43] <un_operateur> FactTech, |capiira, there's a reason for the delay -- so that other windows don't accidently get sent the keystrokes you type into the password box -- as it used to happen in the day, people would type passwords but they would also be sent to their IRC windows, so you'd get people typing passwords into IRC channels :)
[06:43] <fernandocordes> pike_ now that's pita
[06:44] <SoulChild> !fsck
[06:44] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[06:44] <laz0r> kharloss: and install that via dpkg -i
[06:44] <kitche> itanshi: I would use ndiswrapper with broadcom some cards don't like the native linux driver
[06:44] <laz0r> kharloss: a linux-image-2.x.xx.deb, there must be plenty of them to chose from
[06:44] <bradley> un_operateur, even if the delay is necessary... the weird fade out isn't.
[06:44] <un_operateur> FactTech, |capiira it also stop other malicious programs from snopping in on what keystrokes are being sent to the password box
[06:44] <madcheeze> can someone point me to the latest kernel update so i can download it and patch mine?
[06:45] <FactTech> SoulChild see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=326235
[06:45] <fernandocordes> kharloss: mind that you need the one for your architecture
[06:45] <|capiira> hmmm
[06:45] <kharloss> laz0r : a link please first  to .. a tutorial or something before will be great
[06:45] <FactTech> un_operateur Is that function inherently tied to the visual fade effect?
[06:45] <un_operateur> bradley, well, yes, it isnt necessary, but it's to warn the user that something important is happening and that they can't afford to ignore it
[06:45] <fernandocordes> kharloss: you can find out which one you are using by typing uname -r into your favourite terminal
[06:46] <|capiira> then its good but at least that they make it to look better :) 24bit and smoother fade
[06:46] <|capiira> +i hope
[06:46] <kharloss> i use a amd sistem now
[06:46] <laz0r> kharloss: i still dont really know what you want to accomplish
[06:47] <fernandocordes> kharloss: if you didn't change anything about your system you will have a generic kernel most likely then. but uname -r will tell you what it is
[06:47] <madcheeze> laz0r: would you know where to get the latest kernel so i can patch my notebook? there is so much info on the net, that i cant find a source for it
[06:47] <pike_> anyone here experimenting with any 3d filesytem viewers?
[06:47] <un_operateur> FactTech, the fade is purely cosmetical, but for good reason -- the X windows system is inherently insecure in some ways, the fade and delay make sure that other programs can't snoop in on keystrokes and that keystrokes arent accidentally sent to other windows too
[06:48] <fernandocordes> pike_ anyone: you mean like this bumtop`?
[06:48] <fernandocordes> pike_: sorry
[06:48] <laz0r> kharloss: when you say 'patch' your kernel, what do you mean? install a newer one? is your old one broken? cant't you just use apt to get a newer kernel?
[06:48] <laz0r> madcheeze: when you say 'patch' your kernel, what do you mean? install a newer one? is your old one broken? cant't you just use apt to get a newer kernel?
[06:48] <SoulChild> where is fstab in edgy ??????
[06:48] <FactTech> un_operateur Your answer's not making a lot of sense to me, but since this is my first week of using Linux, that's probably shouldn't be surprising. :) Thanks for the information.
[06:49] <fernandocordes> SoulChild: /etc/fstab
[06:49] <SoulChild> fernandocordes, thanks
[06:49] <|capiira> it makes sense but the fade is ugly :)
[06:49] <svfusion> any ideas? This is from x1600 http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotdg4.png
[06:49] <madcheeze> laz0r: my old one doesnt support my wireless, i know an update does, since i used it before, but i cant seem to find a new good kernel that i can put on cd and install it. otherwise i cant update my notebook
[06:49] <|capiira> would be sure a way to freeze everything without fade at all
[06:50] <laz0r> madcheeze: does your notebook have a normal nic? then it might be better to plug in a cable and use apt
[06:50] <svfusion> has anyone have success with x1600 and edgy 6.10
[06:50] <fernandocordes> madcheeze: use a cable to get online then sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:50] <zelda> how do I know if Im using ipv6 or ipv4?
[06:50] <kitche> zelda: your not using it
[06:50] <zelda> how?
[06:50] <kitche> zelda: ipv6 that is
[06:50] <madcheeze> laz0r: part of the problem is that my notebook doesnt come normally supported, it needs a update to support it
[06:50] <SoulChild> How can I deactivate fsck at boot????
[06:51] <madcheeze> laz0r: the hardware i mean
[06:51] <jeronimo> hola probando
[06:51] <zelda> then how come my internet is slow?
[06:51] <kitche> zelda: just look at your ip it's not in ipv6 format
[06:51] <laz0r> madcheeze: there is no other nic in there you can use?
[06:51] <roler> Is there a better network monitor *applet*, perhaps one tailored to wireless cards other than "Network Monitor" ?
[06:51] <kitche> !ipv6|zelda you have to disable ipv6
[06:51] <ubotu> zelda you have to disable ipv6: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[06:51] <zelda> oh you can tell when I log in
[06:51] <madcheeze> the problem cant be fixed without a kernel update... i need a kernel update
[06:51] <FactTech> zelda If you run dmesg, the very last line will indicate if there are no ipV6 routers detected.
[06:51] <fernandocordes> madcheeze: come on.. do you have a network cable?
[06:52] <fernandocordes> you will make the update with a cable
[06:52] <un_operateur> FactTech, |capiira -- out of curiosity -- do you get the same behaviour when you type this command out at the terminal -- gksudo gedit
[06:52] <zelda> I run that in terminal?
[06:52] <fernandocordes> zelda: Yes.
[06:53] <zelda> well the line above eth0 says ipv6 over ipv4
[06:53] <FactTech> un_operateur I don't think I've run into it myself. I'm on Xubuntu 6.10... Xfce wouldn't do this, right?
[06:53] <svfusion> anyone have success with ATi X1600 Pro 512MB?
[06:53] <zelda> that suppose to?
[06:53] <riotkittie> roler: Network Manager, i believe
[06:54] <zelda> [17179608.408000]  IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling driver
[06:54] <zelda> [17179619.116000]  eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[06:54] <riotkittie> roler sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome ... if i recall correctly
[06:54] <madcheeze> can someone point me to the list of kernels for edgy?
[06:54] <fernandocordes> svfusion: i'm using a similar chipset: the x700.. i am using the ati binary driver howto from the official english wiki and it allways works
[06:54] <zelda> so that indicates that Im using ip4?
[06:54] <un_operateur> FactTech, errm, well, i should think so , it might be ubuntu policy to enable that behaviour
[06:54] <kitche> zelda: yes but ipv6 is still enabled
[06:54] <effie_jayx> recon39,  :D
[06:54] <effie_jayx> see you did...
[06:54] <fernandocordes> svfusion: what is your problem. be more specific. what driver did you try?
[06:55] <effie_jayx> recon39,  what are you trying to do
[06:55] <svfusion> The lastest
[06:55] <svfusion> http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotdg4.png
[06:55] <zelda> ok, so how do I disable that, and is that a good idea?
[06:55] <svfusion> that is my problem
[06:55] <un_operateur> FactTech, the thing is , i dont get it on debian, just wondering how to enable and disable the behaviour
[06:55] <Keneo> is it possible te make an exact copy of my linux partition, so I can use it to do some test?
[06:55] <n2diy_> un_operateur: ok, I set up this box so it thinks it is the gateway, and I tried to tell the other box too, but it still refuses to use this boxes ip as the gateway. During all that, I broke my kppp connection, and had to shut it, and xchat down, to get back here. :/
[06:55] <FactTech> un_operateur I've never tried the gksudo command yet, only "sudo <command>" from command line.
[06:55] <ezebe> hi, how can i find out what type of processor i have - i'm trying to speed things up, and think a friend installed a k7 kernel for me in the past... thanks
[06:55] <fernandocordes> svfusion: i would like to take a look at this but i have no gui here ;)
[06:55] <kitche> ubotu tell zelda about ipv6| zelda you should be getting a pm from ubotu with a link on how ot disable it
[06:55] <fernandocordes> svfusion: which latest driver do you use?
[06:55] <knight> hi is there any good circuit simulating softwares in debian?
[06:55] <TCrafte1> keneo: Yes, the tool is called "dd", and you can "man dd" from the command line...
[06:55] <Keneo> thx :)
[06:55] <un_operateur> FactTech, try it out, see what happens
[06:55] <madcheeze> can someone point me to a location where i can get a kernel update?
[06:55] <TCrafte1> keneo: There might be someone here who can give you better help though.
[06:56] <kitche> knight: don't know why not just ask #debian :)
[06:56] <FactTech> kitche Why would she want to disable it if the tunneling is working OK?
[06:56] <n2diy_> ezebe cat /proc/cpuinfo
[06:56] <TCrafte1> keneo: Another tool that I've used with good success is parted.
[06:56] <svfusion> 8.32.5
[06:56] <zelda> I havent got that pm yet
[06:56] <ezebe> thanks n2diy
[06:56] <knight> kitche: i mean ubuntu sorry
[06:56] <juano> ezebe: dmesg | grep "proc*"
[06:56] <kitche> FactTech: if you notice there are no ipv6 routers so he doesn't even use ipv6
[06:56] <fernandocordes> svfusion: from ati.com?
[06:56] <svfusion> no
[06:56] <svfusion> apt-get
[06:56] <juano> ezebe: find the line refering to your processor
[06:56] <mnoir> Keneo: also google for linux ghost to look for several bootable CDs that will make this easier
[06:56] <TCrafte1> As a matter of fact, for what you want to do, parted is almost certainly the better tool.  Gparted is a Gnome-based version of parted.
[06:56] <svfusion> and I have manually installed
[06:57] <zelda> ok i got it! thatnks
[06:57] <zelda> er thanks
[06:57] <knight>  hi is there any good circuit simulating softwares in ubuntu?
[06:57] <svfusion> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[06:57] <fernandocordes> svfusion: not goot. remove all that stuff and follow the step by step guide from the wiki
[06:57] <TCrafte1> keneo: To follow up on mnoir's statement, Knoppix, Damn Small Linux, and RIP Linux all have parted and dd.
[06:57] <n2diy_> knight: take a look at geda.
[06:57] <svfusion> can you give me a link?
[06:57] <un_operateur> n2diy, man oh man, how and why did you tell this box to be it's own gateway, that's like setting an endless loop within itself up, no wonder you went offline
[06:57] <Keneo> thx, I have a cd of the latest knoppix over here
[06:57] <Keneo> I'll look into it
[06:57] <Keneo> thx
[06:57] <fernandocordes> knight: you mean like simulating differen operating systems?
[06:57] <effie_jayx> recon39,  :D overhere...
[06:57] <zelda> Hey, so is disabling IPv6 a good idea?
[06:57] <juano> !ati | svfusion:
[06:57] <ubotu> svfusion:: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:57] <knight> n2diy is it in sources .list can i apt-gte?
[06:58] <mnoir> TCrafte1: several projects have packaged wrappers for dd to simulate ghost making it a little easier than using a general linux release
[06:58] <knight> fernandocordes: no electronic circuit simulating softwares
[06:58] <un_operateur> n2diy, leave this box alone -- just configure the client to use this box's 192.168.1.x IP address as the gateway
[06:58] <n2diy_> knight: should be, or one of the other repos you can enable in synaptic, also available via CVS.
[06:58] <svfusion> how do I remove the driver that is running now?
[06:58] <LjL> Ubotu, tell funkyHat|away about away | funkyHat|away, see the private message from Ubotu
[06:58] <fernandocordes> knight: ooh i see. you tried apt-cache search for it?
[06:58] <madcheeze> !kernel update
[06:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernel update - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <laz0r> madcheeze: actually, i am not able to find a linux-image in the pool, and i dont want to search any further, so you have to use a cable, or maybe build your own kernel package and install that via cdrom
[06:59] <fernandocordes> !kernel | madcheeze
[06:59] <ubotu> madcheeze: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[06:59] <FactTech> kitche Correct, but if one is installed in the future wouldn't it be better to leave IPv6 on?
[06:59] <kitche> FactTech: it's still installed just disables it
[06:59] <gaubong> svfusion: You can undo all what you have done to install it.
[07:00] <recon39> hello everyone I have a problem I am trying to install mythtv on ubuntu and it want me to type in the terminal sudo nano /etc/ld.so.conf and the add /usr/local/lib to the file. the problem is I don't know how to add the the line to the file can anyone help me please
[07:00] <foutrelis> hi. I just connected a new screen to my pc and I want to reconstruct my xorg.conf.. how can this be done? ^_^
[07:00] <svfusion> how
[07:00] <gaubong> svfusion: First, you can use Synaptics to uninstall all packages you have installed.
[07:00] <un_operateur> recon39, sudo gedit /etc/ld.so.conf
[07:00] <gaubong> svfusion: Those fglrx packages.
[07:00] <fernandocordes> svfusion: how did you install it?
[07:00] <alecjw> foutrelis: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:00] <Belboz99> Hey all, I'm having problem getting Virtualization going on 2.6.20, it seems I need the kvm package which is not in the apt repository
[07:00] <svfusion> apt-get stall
[07:00] <FactTech> un_operateur I had to do "gksudo nano" instead (no gedit in Xubuntu by default, it seems), but it did do the graphical sign-in with a fade.
[07:00] <madcheeze> laz0r: here is the problem, i cant use a cable because my hardware isnt supported fully with the original kernel, therefore, i have to patch it to get it all to work...
[07:00] <fernandocordes> gaubong: he used the ati.com one
[07:01] <foutrelis> alecjw: thanks! :)
[07:01] <recon39> can I add the line to that
[07:01] <effie_jayx> recon39,  why don't you use gedit... nano can be a bit intimidating
[07:01] <svfusion> fglrx
[07:01] <foutrelis> I ll try it
[07:01] <rioghal> recon39, You can do the same thing in gedit with: gksudo gedit /etc/ld.so.conf   That will open the file in gedit if that's easier for you.
[07:01] <gaubong> fernandocordes: Yeah, I know, but he installed those packages generated by the binary program from ATI.
[07:01] <svfusion> apt-get remove?
[07:01] <un_operateur> recon39, sure .. but if i were you, i'd make a backup copy of the file first
[07:01] <laz0r> madcheeze: what type of nic is in your notebook that isn't supported by the stock kernel?
[07:01] <FactTech> un_operateur, |capiira It looked totally fine on my screen and happened very quickly. I'm at 1280x1024 on a really old machine, too.
[07:01] <fernandocordes> gaubong: ah yea i forgot that the installer creates debs
[07:01] <alecjw> foutrelis: if there's anythiung you don't understand when you do that command. accept the defualts. when it's finished, close all programs then ctrl+alt+backspace
[07:01] <recon39> ok i will try that
[07:01] <gaubong> svfusion: OK, not really needed to uninstall these.
[07:01] <un_operateur> FactTech, I'm guessing now, it's a setting you can enable/disable through the gconf-editor
[07:02] <madcheeze> laz0r: its not a nic, its the whole motherboard... its integrated.. remember, its a notebook
[07:02] <gaubong> svfusion: The easiest way is to copy the backup version of xorg.conf
[07:02] <gaubong> svfusion: Go to /etc/X11
[07:02] <Belboz99> does anyone know how to install kvm?  It's not in the apt repository
[07:02] <gaubong> svfusion: You can find xorg.conf.original...
[07:02] <gaubong> svfusion: Something like that.
[07:02] <laz0r> madcheeze: yea, still there will be some kind of chip brand the 'is' your nic
[07:02] <n2diy> madcheeze: it still has a chip set.
[07:02] <madcheeze> its intel
[07:02] <gaubong> svfusion: Overide your xorg.conf with that file.
[07:02] <laz0r> madcheeze: broadcom, intel, netmagic3000, whatever
[07:02] <madcheeze> laz0r: its intel
[07:03] <madcheeze> laz0r: i have it plugged into my modem and i cant get it to get on line...
[07:03] <Enverex> Are there any big repos other than the ones selectable by default in Edgy?
[07:03] <Belboz99> has anyone here used Kernel Virtualization in 2.6.20?
[07:03] <laz0r> madcheeze: ok, that must be supported, enter lspci, search for the exact name and tell me that
[07:03] <n2diy> Enverex: debian.org
[07:03] <laz0r> madcheeze: what? modem?
[07:04] <FactTech> un_operateur I don't have a problem with the fade, actually. And your previous explanation makes sense now that I understand what the conversation is about! :)
[07:04] <alecjw> Enverex: if you wnat loads of repos whihc will crash your system, you might be interested in www.apt-get.org
[07:04] <laz0r> madcheeze: ah, your router right?
[07:04] <Enverex> n2diy, Isn't that normally a bad idea? heh
[07:04] <recon39> if i see the line in there I assume that it is added
[07:04] <mnoir> Enverex: you mean ones that we know will work for you or just big
[07:04] <madcheeze> laz0r: i got it online... its on now...
[07:04] <fernandocordes> madcheeze: i thought you watned wireless?
[07:04] <Enverex> mnoir, both really, "dangerous" ones are ok for apps that aren't system critical dependencies
[07:04] <laz0r> madcheeze: ah, see, now you can install your new kernel via apt
[07:04] <n2diy> Enverex: you asked, and I told you, use at your own risk.
[07:05] <alecjw> Enverex: but there's not really much point in adding a repo unless it has a specific package which you want
[07:05] <Belboz99> Does anyone here use Virtualization?
[07:05] <fernandocordes> madcheeze: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get updgrade
[07:05] <rioghal> I need to add /home/donna/bin to $PATH but I don't want to erase the current path. How do I do this?
[07:05] <madcheeze> laz0r: yep, for some reason, i must have not saved the state in networking, and now i did and it works... not my wifeless, but it will once i patch
[07:05] <fernandocordes> Belboz99: what do you mean by that?
[07:05] <madcheeze> laz0r: i was on the brink of quitting
[07:05] <zelda> anyone know of a cd/dvd burning software for Gnome?
[07:05] <juano> im having a weird issue, one of my folders in ntfs partition sometimes is there and sometimes it wont appear, dunno why, btw, its the only folder which i have a link to it on the desktop, dunno if that has to do with it
[07:05] <madcheeze> zelda: i use k3b
[07:05] <zelda> or Gtk2?
[07:05] <fernandocordes> zelda: k3b
[07:05] <gaubong> zelda: gnomebaker or brasero
[07:05] <Belboz99> fernandocordes: it's a way of running an OS on top of another
[07:05] <kitche> zelda: gnomebaker
[07:05] <gaubong> zelda: I prefer brasero
[07:06] <zelda> that opensource
[07:06] <n2diy> Enverex: I've converted RPMS to .debs, with no ill effect, but that was on a Knoppix box.
[07:06] <Enverex> alecjw, Well it's more so "it'll be there when I need it" rather than having to go hunting around for a repo each time I need an app
[07:06] <madcheeze> zelda: yep
[07:06] <fernandocordes> Belboz99: see qemu in the wiki
[07:06] <madcheeze> zelda: usually installed at original install
[07:06] <pike_> zelda: gnomebaker is not the best.. id just like with the kde libs and use k3b
[07:06] <FactTech> So... I've been reading introductory materials for three days now, but I still haven't figured out how the whole repository system works. Can someone point me to a place that would describe how to add or update a package?
[07:06] <rioghal> zelda, gnomebaker is nice
[07:06] <madcheeze> zelda: if not, apt-get install k3b
[07:06] <pike_> zelda: like=live
[07:06] <Belboz99> fernandocordes: I have qemu installed, but I need kvm, don't I?
[07:06] <gaubong> madcheeze: Is it a good idea to run a KDE program in GNOME?
[07:06] <gaubong> madcheeze: I've never tried that.
[07:06] <fernandocordes> Belboz99: you mean the accerlation layer, right?
[07:07] <juano> zelda: xcdroast, all the way
[07:07] <un_operateur> FactTech, |capiira ok, i got it -- if you type gksu-properties at the terminal .. and chose disable for grab mode, you shouldnt get the fade anymore
[07:07] <kitche> !multiverse|FactTech this should have more information
[07:07] <fernandocordes> Belboz99: kqemu
[07:07] <ubotu> FactTech this should have more information: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:07] <rioghal> gaubong, You can do it and it won't hurt anything.. it'll just load kde libs, that's all
[07:07] <madcheeze> gaubong: it doesnt hurt it...
[07:07] <Belboz99> fernandocordes: I don't know, I was following the guide shown here: http://linux.inet.hr/finally-user-friendly-virtualization-for-linux.html
[07:07] <gaubong> madcheeze: Yeah, of course, but we will need a lot more memory.
[07:07] <madcheeze> hahahaha
[07:07] <zelda> thanks everyone.
[07:07] <madcheeze> gaubong: yea, i dont have that problem.. i work for a major memory manufacturer...
[07:08] <itanshi> meh ubuntu is not ready for anything if i have to use fwcutter
[07:08] <juano> im having a weird issue, one of my folders in ntfs partition sometimes is there and sometimes it wont appear, dunno why, btw, its the only folder which i have a link to it on the desktop, dunno if that has to do with it, if anyone knows about this or has some kind of idea that would be helpful thanks
[07:08] <rioghal> madcheeze, you're lucky
[07:08] <Belboz99> fernandocordes: I can't find kqemu either :(
[07:08] <madcheeze> rioghal: no, i went to school, and worked in the industry for 9 years
[07:08] <mypapit__> me either :(
[07:08] <fernandocordes> Belboz99: sorry i can't see it now. i only know that for a good speed, you have to compile and install qemu and kqemu. i have a deb for that somewhere but don't ask me where. but everything is descriped in the ubuntu wiki. there are also links to the official website with the latest versions of both, qemu and kqemu
[07:09] <Bluedog> hey
[07:09] <fernandocordes> Belboz99: i have a nice windows2000 running in my edgy with that
[07:09] <Bluedog> Just got my ubuntu live cds, but neither 6.06LTS or 6.10 will work on my system..
[07:09] <madcheeze> zelda: i use k3b because its simple, its what i am used to, and it can burn dvds too
[07:09] <Belboz99> thanks fernandocordes, I'm trying to get it running with the new Kernel VM, in 2.6.20
[07:09] <Bluedog> it boots up fine, I get the startup sound, the brown/beige background... but no more
[07:09] <fernandocordes> Bluedog: you received 6.10 discs?
[07:10] <Bluedog> downloaded those
[07:10] <vieirar> Does the new ATI fglrx driver (8.32.5) work with AIGLX?
[07:10] <x0x> Anyone know bmp-docklet x86 64?
[07:10] <zelda> madcheese: thanks
[07:10] <gaubong> madcheeze: I use brasero because when I burn dvd, it shows me the burning speed.
[07:10] <killown> when kde4 to be released?
[07:10] <Enverex> Can't believe Audacious isn't in the repos though, that's depressing
[07:10] <Seveas> mneptok, dear - are you around?
[07:10] <Bluedog> i get a long grey box in the centre, but no more
[07:10] <madcheeze> gaubong: ah, i will try that one too, is it light?
[07:10] <fernandocordes> Belboz99: you should try qemu first.. it's ways better than vmware if you ask me
[07:10] <gaubong> madcheeze: I think it's smaller than gnomebaker.
[07:10] <n2diy> Bluedog: how long did you let it cook at the brown screen?
[07:10] <ubuntu-l1nux> Hi,
[07:10] <Bluedog> once that appears, the num lock / caps lock keys on my keyboard stop working (lights dont light up), but the mouse is fine
[07:10] <Bluedog> about 5 minutes :/
[07:11] <madcheeze> laz0r: i owe you something brotha, where are you in the world?
[07:11] <ubuntu-l1nux> Where can I find technical information about ubuntu?
[07:11] <ubuntu-l1nux> Is this the right room?
[07:11] <laz0r> madcheeze: germany, where are you?
[07:11] <n2diy> Bluedog: no num or cap locks is a good indictation your locked up.
[07:11] <gaubong> ubuntu-linux: Depend on your question :D
[07:11] <madcheeze> USA
[07:11] <zelda> DOh!
[07:12] <zelda> shipping time!
[07:12] <killown> when kde4 to be released?
[07:12] <Bluedog> any idea how I can fix it? never run any form of linux on this system..
[07:12] <Bluedog> cant understand it
[07:12] <laz0r> madcheeze: well, you are welcome, im always glad if i can fix someones problem
[07:12] <juano> im having a weird issue, one of my folders in ntfs partition sometimes is there and sometimes it wont appear, dunno why, btw, its the only folder which i have a link to it on the desktop, dunno if that has to do with it, if anyone knows about this or has some kind of idea that would be helpful thanks
[07:12] <madcheeze> laz0r: it takes someone with patience to deal with me sometimes... i get pushy
[07:12] <Bluedog> Dual Core P4 805D, nVidia 7800GT, 2gb Corsair..
[07:12] <sanity> what command tells you how much RAM a machine has?
[07:12] <pike_> Bluedog: if its your first time with linux you might consider just burning the alternate install cd. download from ubuntu.com
[07:12] <n2diy> Bluedog: try hitting escape at the boot prompt, and explore your other boot options.
[07:13] <zelda> laz0r: Id love to visit germany!
[07:13] <ubuntu-l1nux> gaubong: I have a new computer Core 2 Duo + Intel DP965LT motherboard. But I cannot use ubuntu Live CD with it.
[07:13] <rioghal> sanity, You can use the free command to see that
[07:13] <Bluedog> thanks guys, will do
[07:13] <beavis> Today's edgy update wants to remove nvidia-glx, is it ok to press continue or will I lose X?
[07:13] <Bluedog> does the alternate one include a live cd?
[07:13] <itanshi> what kernel version does edgy eft use?
[07:13] <sanity> rioghal: thanks :-)
[07:13] <pike_> Bluedog: the alternate cd is not a livecd
[07:13] <Bluedog> dont want to mess with my partitions if ubuntu wont run
[07:13] <Bluedog> ah
[07:13] <un_operateur> beasty, you use an nvidia card?
[07:13] <juano> beavis: i updated them today with no problem
[07:13] <fernandocordes> madcheeze: all you need for linux is a bi patience
[07:13] <gesine> Hi all!
[07:13] <Bluedog> ok thanks guys, might be back shortly :)
[07:13] <ubuntu-l1nux> itanshi: 2.6.17
[07:13] <itanshi> k
[07:13] <beavis> juano, so you let him remove nvidia-glx?
[07:13] <juano> beavis: i rebooted X and stuff.. no problem
[07:14] <juano> beavis: not remove, update
[07:14] <gesine> My Ubuntu computer does not shut down or reboot, I always have to press the power button for about 2 seconds. Can you help me please?
[07:14] <madcheeze> holy cow, the updates are sick big... must have been alot since this issue...
[07:14] <rioghal> fernandocordes, I tried searching for that patience package but I couldn't find libpatience.so, lol
[07:14] <laz0r> zelda: hop in the next plane and come here if you like
[07:14] <juano> beavis: i did it with adept
[07:14] <itanshi> this says that a broadcom 4400 driver is installed allready then
[07:14] <gaubong> ubuntu-l1nux: What happen when you start with the cd?
[07:14] <beavis> juano, could you check: apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386
[07:14] <fernandocordes> :D
[07:14] <laz0r> zelda: but maybe wait a little, wheather is not so good right now
[07:14] <beavis> juano, do you have -1 or -10?
[07:14] <n2diy> gesine: mine do the same thing, it doesn't seem to be anything more than an annoyance.
[07:14] <laz0r> zelda: weather
[07:15] <gesine> n2diy: yes but an annoyance it is :(
[07:15] <ubuntu-l1nux> gaubong: it fails to recognize devices, even cannot mount the cd-driver with live cd inside
[07:15] <zelda> laz0r: is it snowing?
[07:15] <oblio> hello
[07:15] <n2diy> gesine: so stop doing that.
[07:15] <oblio> how can i find out to what package a file belongs?
[07:15] <Mikey-Linux> hiya everyone, im talking from my ubuntu install
[07:15] <oblio> what dpkg option?
[07:15] <beavis> oblio, dlocate is a great package for doing so
[07:15] <gesine> n2diy: I beg your pardon? Should I leave my computer running all night and day long?
[07:16] <laz0r> zelda: nope, sadly, not, only rain, its MUCH too warm, its like spring, while it should be freezing right now
[07:16] <n2diy> gesine: I do.
[07:16] <pike_> gesine: yes otherwise how will you brag about your uptime :)
[07:16] <gaubong> ubuntu-l1nux: So it cannot start into GNOME yet?
[07:16] <BigToe> I want to be able to write files to my camera... it shows up as a USB PTP class camera in ubuntu and I can successfully download files... can I write files to it?
[07:16] <mirak> how can I know the parameters of lirc_serial module ?
[07:16] <gaubong> ubuntu-l1nux: What is your cdrom model?
[07:16] <gesine> n2diy: well, I'm no die-hard geek. Plus, only men brag about uptime.
[07:16] <n2diy> pike_:  exactly!
[07:16] <oblio> beavis: dpkg -S it is indeed :) thanks anyway, i'll try dlocate too
[07:16] <ubuntu-l1nux> gaubong: No. It cannot.
[07:16] <zelda> laz0r: Ive always wanted to visit Germany, and run on the autobaun.
[07:17] <zelda> brb though, need a reset
[07:17] <laz0r> zelda: there were almost no snow in the alps this season, or very little
[07:17] <beavis> oblio, sure dpkg -S works too, but dlocate is much easier for both directions ;)
[07:17] <ubuntu-l1nux> gaubong: It is a sony DVD-writer.
[07:17] <n2diy> gesine: umm, ok, won't go there.
[07:17] <itanshi> me i needs some hands on help maybe, edgy eft, updated installed files, ndiswrapper installed, bcm43xx-fwcutter installed um is there a bcm44xx-fwcutter?
[07:17] <gesine> nm...
[07:17] <laz0r> zelda: its spelled autobahn
[07:17] <fernandocordes> zelda: autobahn kicks your ass
[07:17] <ubuntu-l1nux> gaubong: I think it is a kernel problem.
[07:17] <gaubong> ubuntu-l1nux: internal or external?
[07:17] <gesine> So does anybody have a SOLUTION for this problem?
[07:17] <oblio> beavis: yeah, but it's good to get to know base tools too ;)
[07:17] <ubuntu-l1nux> gaubong:
[07:17] <laz0r> zelda: autobahn can be dangerous
[07:17] <ubuntu-l1nux> gaubong: Internal
[07:17] <pike_> gesine: you could try ubuntuforums.org likely someone else has has a similar problem
[07:17] <gaubong> ubuntu-l1nux: Weird
[07:17] <BigToe> zelda isn't here any more >_>
[07:17] <BigToe> I want to be able to write files to my camera... it shows up as a USB PTP class camera in ubuntu and I can successfully download files... can I write files to it?
[07:17] <gaubong> ubuntu-l1nux: There often is no problem with internal CD drive
[07:18] <laz0r> zelda: if you drive an old car like me
[07:18] <juano> beavis: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1086/
[07:18] <gesine> pike_: many do, but no problem solution has been posted, or at least I cant find any
[07:18] <gaubong> ubuntu-l1nux: Have you tried to check the md5 of the iso file you downloaded?
[07:18] <laz0r> zelda: and still wanna go faster then all the others
[07:18] <n2diy> BigToe:  only one way to find out.
[07:18] <itanshi> lazor - zelda left the room fyi
[07:18] <BigToe> n2diy, how?
[07:18] <beavis> juano, oh, so you're not using the pripriotary nvidia drivers at all?
[07:19] <laz0r> itanishi: oops
[07:19] <ubuntu-l1nux> gaubong: yep. I also used older ubuntu versions, Hoary, Breezy, Dapper that I recieved by post.
[07:19] <mikeconcepts2> Software updates is telling me there are 3 updates available: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17.10-genereic (not marked), and two that are marked which are linux-restricted-modules-common and xserver-xorg-core. There is a window that states not all upgrades can be install and recommends a distribution upgrade. I have beryl running with the appropriate driver for nvidia FX5200. Should I do the distribution upgrade? Will it require I do som
[07:19] <mikeconcepts2> ething about the nvidia driver?
[07:19] <n2diy> BigToe:  drag and drog is probably the easiest way.
[07:19] <BigToe> n2diy, where to?
[07:19] <gaubong> ubuntu-l1nux: You may want to try another distro live cd
[07:19] <BigToe> ubuntu brings up a wizard so I don't know where the camera is mounted to, if it's mounted to anywhere...
[07:19] <mikeconcepts2> *do something about the nvidia driver?
[07:19] <matthe1> i just upgraded my distro andb now my video card drivers are fuck
[07:20] <n2diy> BigToe:  you said it shows up as PTP, that would be the likely choice.
[07:20] <gaubong> ubuntu-l1nux: If the problem is the same, then that may be a kernel problem.
[07:20] <juano> beavis: dunno bout that, everything seems fine with drivers though, gaming, beryl etc works great
[07:20] <Xaphoo> is there a repo with the restricted modules that work with the latest nvidia drivers?
[07:20] <n2diy> BigToe:  save as might work too.
[07:20] <matthe1> is there a way i can get my nvidia drivers back?
[07:20] <BigToe> n2diy, yes, it shows up as PTP in the wizard... do you mean I should drag and drop in the wizard or try and find the camera in nautilus?
[07:21] <ubuntu-l1nux> gaubong: After using ubuntu for a long time, it is difficult to migrate back to those rpm distros.
[07:21] <kharloss> http://www.omfg.ro/monitor.html
[07:21] <ubuntu-l1nux> gaubong: But I can test
[07:21] <tode> hi all ! Got a few question concerning transparency... Thought this would be a possibility with metacity, but can't find how to change window's transparency at all. Any hints ?
[07:21] <n2diy> BigToe: It is probably sitting on your desktop?
[07:21] <ubuntu-l1nux> gaubong: Thanks anyway.
[07:21] <gaubong> ubuntu-l1nux: No, just want to make sure that is not the problem of ubuntu.
[07:22] <matthe1> any one read my text?
[07:22] <doctormo> hey all
[07:22] <zelda> !help ipv6
[07:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help ipv6 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:22] <fernandocordes> matthe1: be more specific
[07:22] <tode> matthel : what about re-running the driver install from Nvidia ?
[07:22] <hannes_> hi
[07:22] <BigToe> n2diy, no :(
[07:22] <juano> matthe1: what happened to your drivers?
[07:22] <hannes_> anyone here who uses chessinterfaces
[07:22] <n2diy> ! ipv6 | zelda
[07:22] <ubotu> zelda: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[07:22] <pike_> matthe1: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  if that doesnt work you could yeah reinstall drivers
[07:22] <kharloss> if i want to install ubuntu on my sistem , is sata suported ?
[07:23] <matthe1> i juist upf=graded distro the edgy 17.genric to 17.386
[07:23] <zelda> thanks, I googled it
[07:23] <b08y> kharloss: jeah
[07:23] <matthe1> and had nvidia as drivers
[07:23] <fernandocordes> kharloss: most likely it will be autodetected and supported
[07:23] <matthe1> and now it cant find it
[07:23] <gaubong> BigToe: Try to click on MyComputer in nautilus
[07:23] <matthe1> had to use nv
[07:23] <n2diy> BigToe: hmmm, I guess you'll have to dig around then, never tried writing to my camera, and now that I think about it, it didn't show up there either. Good luck.
[07:24] <gaubong> BigToe: Sorry, Computer
[07:24] <BigToe> gaubong, tried that
[07:24] <BigToe> n2diy, :(
[07:24] <pike_> matthe1: id apt-get remove --purge package   where package is the ubuntu packages you installed then reinstall maybe
[07:24] <lotacus> anyone have an idea why there would be screen curruption when beryl loads as an xwindow session?
[07:24] <gaubong> BigToe: Are you using USB connection?
[07:24] <BigToe> yes
[07:25] <gaubong> BigToe: What type of Camera is that?
[07:25] <BigToe> Kodak Easyshare
[07:25] <mefisto__> question about orphaned packages: is there a chance that removing an orphaned package can break something? or is it completely safe to uninstall orphaned packages? (I'm getting the orphaned list using synaptic)
[07:25] <BigToe> C...433
[07:25] <phr34ck> There is a bug in the GUI I think.
[07:25] <doctormo> got a problem with my wacom driver:
[07:25] <doctormo> (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/wacom_drv.so
[07:25] <doctormo> dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/wacom_drv.so: undefined symbol: __stack_chk_fail_local
[07:25] <doctormo> (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/wacom_drv.so
[07:25] <gaubong> BigToe: Try to disable the auto import camera photo
[07:25] <zelda> Ok heres my problem. I tried to disable IPv6, and I get an error.
[07:25] <fernandocordes> BigToe: you want to copy a picture to the memory of the camera right?
[07:25] <BigToe> gaubong, how?
[07:25] <zelda> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[07:25] <BigToe> yes fernandocordes
[07:25] <phr34ck> If you double clicked the title bar to maximize/minimize it, the icon "for maximize/minimuze" does not change.
[07:25] <matthe1> i cant
[07:25] <matthe1> music@music-desktop:~$ id apt-get remove --purge package
[07:25] <matthe1> id: unrecognized option `--purge'
[07:25] <matthe1> Try `id --help' for more information.
[07:25] <zelda> someone help please.
[07:26] <gaubong> BigToe: System / Preference / Removable Media...
[07:26] <BigToe> thanks
[07:26] <fernandocordes> BigToe: what is the problem? will the file not copy or won't the camera show it?
[07:26] <FactTech> zelda If you don't mind my asking, why are you so interested in disabling ipv6? I'm only curious; is it a perforamance drag or something?
[07:26] <BigToe> fernandocordes, I can't find the camera
[07:26] <BigToe> to copy the file to :S
[07:26] <zelda> yeah
[07:26] <gaubong> fernandocordes: He said it can open the photo import wizard, but it's not mounted.
[07:26] <zelda> definately
[07:26] <fernandocordes> BigToe: oh i see
[07:26] <pike_> matthe1: heh sorry id was just I'd.  just "apt-get remove --purge package"
[07:27] <zelda> my internet on here is slow.
[07:27] <zelda> and I have cable 8mb/dl
[07:27] <fernandocordes> BigToe: maybe you can reformat?
[07:27] <zelda> and it takes 3-5sec to get any page
[07:27] <matthe1> E: Couldn't find package package
[07:27] <BigToe> fernandocordes, reformat what?
[07:27] <fernandocordes> BigToe: you camera's memory
[07:27] <zelda> so, can you help me disable it or what?
[07:27] <BigToe> fernandocordes, hmm... okay
[07:27] <pike_> matthe1: are you trolling? :)
[07:28] <n2diy> ! ipv6 | zelda
[07:28] <ubotu> zelda: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[07:28] <matthe1> ????
[07:28] <Superdave132> disable the ipv6 in the browser about:config file
[07:28] <matthe1> trolling?
[07:28] <fernandocordes> matthe1: there is no package called package
[07:28] <fernandocordes> package
[07:28] <drv_> damn, i'm really having a great nick, i get hilights all the time :)
[07:28] <pyrohotdog> Can someone help me enable/turn on direct rendering? Nvidia drivers are installed, Edgy, fully up to date.
[07:28] <matthe1> ?
[07:28] <drv_>  Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/wacom_drv.so dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/wacom_drv.so: undefined symbol: __stack_chk_fail_local  (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/wacom_drv.so etc.. :)
[07:28] <zelda> n2diy: incase you havent noticed, ive tried that and got an error
[07:28] <BigToe> fernandocordes, just did that
[07:28] <fernandocordes> drv_ lol
[07:28] <matthe1> i just upgraded the distro of edgy
[07:29] <fernandocordes> BigToe: will it mount now?
[07:29] <matthe1> now it fucked my nvidia drivers
[07:29] <n2diy> zelda: no I didn't notice, I was following the camera thread.
[07:29] <matthe1> now the direct rendering dont work
[07:29] <fernandocordes> matthe1: buy ati next time :D
[07:29] <BigToe> fernandocordes, doesn't seem to
[07:29] <abbyz> hello, has anybody tried to run rshd for ubuntu? I am facing problems with it
[07:29] <matthe1> no
[07:29] <matthe1> i use bearl
[07:29] <matthe1> needs nvidia
[07:29] <FactTech> zelda Sorry, I don't know too much yet. That's why I've been watching this channel for a few hours.
[07:30] <fernandocordes> BigToe: do you connect with usb cable or do you plugin your carD?
[07:30] <gaubong> BigToe: Try to plug the camera in, and run dmesg
[07:30] <BigToe> connect with the USB cable
[07:30] <fernandocordes> i gotta go get some sleep
[07:30] <BigToe> gaubong, ok
[07:30] <gaubong> BigToe: See whether the camera is recognized or not.
[07:30] <fernandocordes> BigToe: is the memory of your memory a removeable card?
[07:30] <n2diy> fernandocordes: ditto, I've been in front of this box for 12 hours.
[07:30] <BigToe> yes fernandocordes
[07:31] <matthe1> omg
[07:31] <fernandocordes> n2diy: me not but this da was the worst one for the last two years for me
[07:31] <zelda> yeah me too.
[07:31] <fernandocordes> day
[07:31] <zelda> Can someone help me with that error please?
[07:31] <fernandocordes> BigToe: do you have a cardreader?
[07:32] <BigToe> no
[07:32] <rioghal> n2diy, 12 hours? pffft.. Ubuntu has had me addicted for 19 hours in this sitting.
[07:32] <BigToe> if I did i would use it :P
[07:32] <gaubong> BigToe: So how's the result of dmesg?
[07:32] <BigToe> there's lots of stuff
[07:32] <BigToe> I'm not sure if the camera is mentioned or not
[07:32] <matthe1> Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17-10-386 from Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17-10-generic and it screwed my nividia drivers in progress
[07:32] <gaubong> BigToe: I mean the last few lines.
[07:32] <n2diy> rioghal: OK! Be careful.
[07:32] <fernandocordes> BigToe: i have the reverse problem with my mobile phone. when i plugin the card directly it wont work. with usb i'm fine
[07:32] <FactTech> zelda Does the error happen when you try to disable it? Or after it's disabled?
[07:33] <zelda> when im trying to disable it.
[07:33] <gaubong> BigToe: Any line with the name of your camera?
[07:33] <gaubong> BigToe: Or SCSI device
[07:33] <zelda> and when I type ip a | grep inet6 I get stuff back, meaning I have it enabled
[07:33] <pike_> matthe1: do you see the packages listed when you "dpkg -l | grep nvidia" ? "sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-glx" and the others as well then follow instructions on reinstalling
[07:33] <abbyz> hello, has anybody tried to run rshd for ubuntu? I am facing problems with it
[07:33] <BigToe> no gaubong
[07:34] <BigToe> I don't think so anyway
[07:34] <Enverex> Is it possible to stop Synaptic from moaning about missing PGP keys from repos?
[07:34] <BigToe> shall I pastebin it?
[07:34] <matthe1> yeaaaa i did
[07:34] <FactTech> zelda This may sound too simple, but did you try to disable it in superuser mode?
[07:34] <matthe1> it removed it
[07:34] <zelda> dont know how to do that.
[07:34] <fernandocordes> i'm off. gl and have fun all
[07:34] <BigToe> see ya fernandocordes
[07:34] <FactTech> zelda If you're trying to execute a command from the terminal, you probably don't have the right permissions as a regular user.
[07:35] <gaubong> BigToe: OK, you may try it this way.
[07:35] <zelda> ok, so how do I log in as root?
[07:35] <FactTech> zelda If you type "sudo <command>" it will give you root privileges.
[07:35] <gaubong> BigToe: Run tail -f /var/log/messages
[07:35] <phr34ck> is there no way to supply the password with sudo command without actually waiting for it to ask for the password?
[07:35] <gaubong> BigToe: Then plug your camera
[07:35] <zelda> ok
[07:35] <FactTech> zelda You don't actually have to log in as root.
[07:35] <Bluedog> hey guys, still no joy
[07:35] <gaubong> BigToe: See whether any new lines come in.
[07:35] <FactTech> zelda You just give it your same password.
[07:35] <Bluedog> it looks like the loading screen is coming up, but i get what looks like 5mm of the top bar, and 5mm of corruption
[07:36] <matthe1> Package nvidia-glx is not installed, so not removed
[07:36] <zelda> so like sudo then gksudogedit/etc/modprobe.d/bad_list?
[07:36] <Bluedog> fails in safe graphic mode too..
[07:36] <Mikey-Linux> test
[07:36] <FactTech> zelda If you're trying to do the configuration from some graphical interface, you probably have to use sudo to launch that interface.
[07:36] <BigToe> gaubong, it just says this for address 3, 4 and 5: Jan 10 18:21:39 BigPC kernel: [17188058.384000]  usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3/Jan 10 18:26:52 BigPC kernel: [17188371.128000]  usb 2-2: USB disconnect, address 3
[07:36] <BigToe> no names or anything
[07:36] <KubuntuUser_> hello, i'm still having the same problem, when trying to boot it says "rcS terminated with status 2" and also "rc2 terminated with status 2"
[07:36] <BigToe> the numbers change though
[07:36] <gaubong> BigToe: That means it recognize the new usb device, but it get disconnected right away.
[07:37] <zelda> brb
[07:37] <gaubong> BigToe: But you said you can import photos?
[07:37] <BigToe> yes
[07:37] <FactTech> zelda You don't need to do "sudo" by itself... just prefix whatever command you're trying to execute.
[07:37] <matthe1> pike_; Package nvidia-glx is not installed, so not removed
[07:38] <ezebe> hi, i'm trying to install the 2.6.17.10 - k7 kernel, have done 'sudo apt-get install linux-k7' but k7 kernel is not an option in grub. what have i missed?
[07:38] <FactTech> zelda I'm assuming that you are a system administrator on the system you're using.
[07:38] <gaubong> BigToe: Then I'm clueless now.
[07:38] <FactTech> zelda If you're not, you'll need to find someone who is.
[07:38] <gaubong> BigToe: How can you import the photos if the device got disconnected?
[07:38] <Bluedog> anyone have any ideas? Failing when trying to boot livecd, get startup sound, brown background, then in the centre a thin bar which looks like corruption...
[07:38] <Bluedog> 6.06 and 6.10 fails, fails in safe gfx mode too
[07:38] <BigToe> gaubong, wait
[07:38] <Crescendo> How can I recursively copy all files within a directory of a certain filetype (jpg, jpeg, JPG, JPEG... x_x;)
[07:38] <pike_> matthe1: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851  now it has a good howto
[07:38] <BigToe> gaubong, look at the timestamps on those messages
[07:39] <BigToe> you'll notice there's 5 minutes wait
[07:39] <BigToe> before it disconnects
[07:39] <matthe1> pike_; ok thank you
[07:39] <zelda> I didnt get that error, But I dont know if Ive disabled yet
[07:39] <gaubong> BigToe: Hey, how can that be?
[07:39] <zelda> nope didnt work
[07:39] <BigToe> I think it's because I turned my camera off, gaubong
[07:40] <Bluedog> http://www.explodingpanda.com/hosted/DSC00552.JPG
[07:40] <Bluedog> thats what I get if it helps anyone :)
[07:40] <BigToe> so I think the disconnects are when I unplugged it
[07:40] <gaubong> BigToe: Give me those lines that shown up right after you plug your camera in.
[07:40] <Enverex> Any ideas why XChat would use Mozilla for links when I have Gnome set with Firefox as my default browser?
[07:40] <gaubong> BigToe: That's why I said you should use tail -f
[07:40] <BigToe> I did use tail -f
[07:40] <Balsamic_Chicken> Bluedog is that screen After the panda exploded?
[07:41] <Bluedog> after i cleaned up :P
 gaubong, it just says this for address 3, 4 and 5: Jan 10 18:21:39 BigPC kernel: [17188058.384000]  usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3/Jan 10 18:26:52 BigPC kernel: [17188371.128000]  usb 2-2: USB disconnect, address 3
[07:41] <kitche> Enverex: sicne xchat doesn't use the desktop preferred app it has it's own list
[07:41] <Mikey-Linux> is there a way to see whats happening with my rt2500 wifi card in detail?
[07:41] <BigToe> that was tail -f
[07:41] <Enverex> kitche, hmm, I can't find anywhere to set it and the "URL Handler" list is empty
[07:41] <Balsamic_Chicken> Mikey-Linux i use wifi-radar from synaptic i think, u can't really see what's going on but u can select the wireless network u want with it
[07:41] <BigToe> gaubong, now the last message is Jan 10 18:41:21 BigPC kernel: [17189240.768000]  usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 8
[07:41] <gaubong> BigToe: Um, you should run tail -f, then plug your camera, then give me the extra lines you get.
[07:41] <BigToe> oh
[07:41] <BigToe> ok
[07:42] <iustin85> hello to you all! please someone can advice me if i can create a lvm2 group without loosing my data in /home
[07:42] <Crescendo> Enverex, I think it's a bug, I encountered the same thing
[07:42] <BigToe> gaubong, just Jan 10 18:42:00 BigPC kernel: [17189280.332000]  usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 9
[07:42] <matthe1> pike_; nvidia-glx:
[07:42] <matthe1>  Depends: nvidia-kernel-1.0.9629 cant install:(
[07:42] <FactTech> zelda Which distro/release are you running, again?
[07:42] <Crescendo> Enverex, I resolved the issue by removing mozilla-browser from my system
[07:42] <KubuntuUser_> is there a way to compare 2 folders and only copy those REPEATED files?
[07:42] <BigToe> nothing else showed up when I plugged the camera in
[07:42] <zelda> linux mint.
[07:42] <leafw> any good places to check for hardware compatibility with linux in general and ubuntu in particular?
[07:42] <Crescendo> How can I recursively copy all files within a directory of a certain filetype (jpg, jpeg, JPG, JPEG... x_x;)
[07:42] <Enverex> Crescendo, I would but apparently it's a dependency of something :/
[07:42] <Gosha> would ubuntu run on a ericsson z530i?
[07:42] <zelda> its ubuntu with added codecs
[07:43] <FactTech> zelda The instructions indicate that you need a reboot after editing the file. Have you done that?
[07:43] <zelda> yes
[07:43] <Crescendo> Enverex, yeah, I was wondering why it was installed on my system, too - then I removed Eclipse
[07:43] <ezebe> hey folks, is there an activation step that has to be followed following installation of a non-generic kernel (k7) with edgy? i've apt-get installed it but it doesn't appear on GRUB menu...
[07:43] <KubuntuUser_> is there a way to compare 2 folders and only copy those REPEATED files?
[07:43] <zelda> then typed ipa|grepinet6
[07:43] <zelda> and I get stuff back
[07:43] <gaubong> BigToe: Sorry, then I don't know.
[07:43] <leafw> Crescendo: use a find -iname "*.jpeg" -exec cp {} /somewhere/else/ \;
[07:43] <BigToe> :( gaubong
[07:43] <FactTech> zelda Right, well you edited the configuration file, but nothiing has had to read it yet.
[07:43] <KubuntuUser_> or is there a way to restore permitions to default? i messed them up
[07:44] <KubuntuUser_> and now it doesnt boot
[07:44] <FactTech> zelda If you reboot it should read the changes and turn off ipv6, if I'm following.
[07:44] <KubuntuUser_> i've tried everything
[07:44] <zelda> I have rebooted completely, and
[07:44] <zelda> nothing has changed
[07:44] <FactTech> zelda Oh, OK.
[07:44] <KubuntuUser_> or to make system ignore them completelly
[07:44] <rcmiv> BigToe, did you check /media?
[07:44] <Bluedog> would it be worth trying on the ubuntu forum, posting the image etc?
[07:44] <Bluedog> seems like a gfx issue but im baffled =(
[07:44] <kitche> KubuntuUser_: what folder did you chmod?
[07:44] <FactTech> zelda Missed that. Well, that's about as much help as I'm good for. Anyone else?
[07:45] <BigToe> yes rcmiv
[07:45] <gaubong> rcmiv: I thouht if it is mounted to media, hald will show up some messages
[07:45] <zelda> heh, noone here listens. I apprciate you trying
[07:45] <Crescendo> leafw, not sure I understand that command, but I'll use it
[07:45] <pike_> matthe1: you could do this http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Edgy#METHOD_2  print it out so you have the instructions when you stop X.
[07:45] <zelda> appreciate
[07:45] <deltaray> So what do I do if I've botched my /etc/sudoers file and now can't sudo.  Boot to rescue disk?
[07:45] <rcmiv> gaubong, true
[07:45] <gaubong> BigToe: OK, is your hdd a sata or ide?
[07:45] <KubuntuUser_> kitche near everythingt from bin to sbin and etc, everthing is messed up
[07:45] <BigToe> ide
[07:45] <_jpierre> Hello. I have a problem. My network card says that there is no connection whereas when booting from the live CD it's working. How do I fix it? any clues?
[07:45] <Crescendo> It's returning missing argument to -exec
[07:45] <kitche> KubuntuUser_: only way to fix that mess is to reinstall
[07:45] <gaubong> BigToe: Then check the /dev folder for any files like sda or sdb
[07:46] <BigToe> ok
[07:46] <KubuntuUser_> kitche dont tell me! omg i got severall proyects
[07:46] <gaubong> BigToe: As far as I know, when you plug your usb storage
[07:46] <gaubong> BigToe: There should be a new file in /dev
[07:46] <zelda> Can someone help me disable IPv6?
[07:46] <gaubong> BigToe: Like sda or sdb
[07:46] <matthe1> pike_; wont let me install it:(
[07:46] <kitche> KubuntuUser_: did you use chmod -R when you were editing it?
[07:47] <mnoir> KubuntuUser_: reinstall is sometimes quicker than figuring out a mess caused by something that you did unintentionally
[07:47] <iustin85> i have added a new drive, how can i extend my /home using lvm (currently i do not use lvm)
[07:47] <iustin85> ?
[07:47] <_jpierre> Hello. I have a problem. My network card says that there is no connection whereas when booting from the live CD it's working. How do I fix it? any clues?
[07:47] <kitche> zelda: did you edit the file /etc/modprobe.d/bad_list  and added the line alias net-pf-10 off
[07:47] <laz0r> KubuntuUser_: you could try to restore permissions manually, for example in the /bin dir anything should be executable, i guess, and if you just need to somehow restore perms to boot and rescue your data, you could just make everything world readable in /etc, and so on
[07:47] <FactTech> zelda If you're using Firefox you may be able to do it from the browser.
[07:48] <BigToe> gaubong, nope :S
[07:48] <KubuntuUser_> kitche i'm not sure, i wanted acces for mozilla-thunderbird but it didnt solve my problem so i decided wrong actually to allow myself acces to the content
[07:48] <kitche> zelda: anyways you on edgy correct?
[07:48] <gaubong> BigToe: Hmm
[07:48] <gaubong> BigToe: Are you sure you can import photos?
[07:48] <BigToe> yes
[07:48] <FactTech> zelda You may have to launch firefox using sudo so it has the right permissions, if it doesn't ask you to authenticate.
[07:48] <gaubong> BigToe: Using what?
[07:48] <pike_> _jpierre: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)      do that incase its not already installed
[07:48] <BigToe> the default one
[07:48] <BigToe> gphoto I think
[07:48] <laz0r> KubuntuUser_: but you should really install afterwards, cause making anything world readable is probably a bad idea
[07:49] <Crescendo> How can I recursively copy all files within a directory of a certain filetype (jpg, jpeg, JPG, JPEG... x_x;)
[07:49] <KubuntuUser_> laz0r i tried that... but no, some files has to have some permisions... like sudoers must be 0440 otherwise noone is allowed to sudo
[07:49] <kitche> FactTech: you don't have to sudo with firefox it will just set disable ipv6 for that user if the user opens it
[07:49] <laz0r> KubuntuUser_: yep, your are right...
[07:49] <gaubong> BigToe: OK, your last try
[07:49] <_jpierre> pike_: I can't do that as my network is not working any other ideas?
[07:49] <gaubong> BigToe: Try to list /dev before and after you plug your camera
[07:49] <mnoir> laz0r: that might not totally work since there are paranoid programs that refuse to use files that are world readable sometimes
[07:49] <kitche> Crescendo: cp -r /path/to/*jpeg /path/to/copy
[07:49] <gaubong> BigToe: See whether there's anything new.
[07:49] <KubuntuUser_> laz0r its driving me crazy
[07:49] <lotacus> anyone know much about troubleshooting beryl after intsallation?
[07:49] <matthe1> pike_; i cant install it
[07:49] <FactTech> kitche Thanks. Will that be true only for web browsing or for everything?
[07:49] <KubuntuUser_> ill save what i can...
[07:50] <IrishFreak> Can anyone help me with intsalling Ubuntu, when i try to make a partition for it the installer will just keep loading forever
[07:50] <lotacus> I'm having graphical curruption
[07:50] <kitche> FactTechonly for firefox but that's doesn't disable ipv6
[07:50] <Crescendo> kitche, it doesn't work, though - no such file
[07:50] <BigToe> ok gaubong
[07:50] <pyrohotdog> Hey, how come I can only get direct rendering when I run startx, and not when I log in through GDM?
[07:50] <Crescendo> It needs to be recursive
[07:50] <Croatoan> hi all
[07:50] <Croatoan> getting ready to install ubuntu !
[07:50] <iustin85> hello to you all! i`ve added a new drive, can someone advice me how can i extend my /home ?
[07:50] <Crescendo> I use the -r, but it still doesn't
[07:50] <kitche> Crescendo: you mean for each folder?
[07:50] <Croatoan> my first linux experience
[07:50] <Crescendo> kitche - yes, every thing underneath that directory.
[07:50] <pyrohotdog> Good luck Croatoan. :)
[07:51] <laz0r> KubuntuUser_ maybe the best way is to use a live cd to get your data, and then reinstall
[07:51] <pyrohotdog> You won't turn back. ;)
[07:51] <pike_> Crescendo: find /directory/name -name *.jpg | xargs cp -r {} /destination/path maybe
[07:51] <Croatoan> thx pyro
[07:51] <Croatoan> question
[07:51] <deltaray> So what do I do if I've botched my /etc/sudoers file and now can't sudo.  Boot to rescue disk?
[07:51] <laz0r> KubuntuUser_ since it will be a lot of work to restore all the perms
[07:51] <Croatoan> i would like to use dual boot capability...will ubuntu set this up for me?
[07:51] <Croatoan> separate HDDs
[07:51] <matthe1> yea
[07:51] <KubuntuUser_> laz0r is what im going to do unfortunelly i'll lose evverything else (like KDE)
[07:51] <zelda> Anyone want to help or what?
[07:51] <pyrohotdog> Yeah it will.
[07:51] <gaubong> deltaray: Try to start in single user mode.
[07:51] <Croatoan> schweet
[07:51] <matthe1> Croatoan: yes u can set it up
[07:51] <BigToe> gaubong, no :(
[07:51] <gaubong> deltaray: You should get in as root right away.
[07:51] <pyrohotdog> Can someone help me with my direct rendering?
[07:51] <FactTech> zelda Did you try disabling ipv6 using Firefox? kitche says it works.
[07:52] <deltaray> gaubong, yeah.  But I'm asking if there is another way around without restarting.
[07:52] <kitche> zelda: you didn't even anwser me
[07:52] <gaubong> BigToe: OK, then I give up.
[07:52] <zelda> to what?
[07:52] <deltaray> like an option to have sudo ignore errors in the sudoers file.
[07:52] <zelda> how do I do that?
[07:52] <laz0r> KubuntuUser_ if you're really desperate to save your installation, you could install a new one on a second hd, and then use a script to mirror the perms to your old installation...
[07:52] <ezebe> hey everybody, i'm trying to change to a k7 kernel with edgy, have apt-get installed it, but it doesn't show on GRUB, what am i missing?
[07:52] <KubuntuUser_> Croatoan yes if you install  it in a diferent partition the lilo-like manager will make it dual booth
[07:52] <matthe1> pike_; are you ignoring me?
[07:52] <Ropechoborra> !paste
[07:52] <ubotu> paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[07:52] <FactTech> It's the second entry at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[07:52] <laz0r> KubuntuUser_ but that is going to be a complex task too
[07:52] <pike_> matthe1: no ?
[07:52] <KubuntuUser_> laz0r i asked that
[07:52] <kitche> zelda: what ubuntu version are you on? making sure
[07:52] <FactTech> zelda It's the second entry at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[07:52] <zelda> kitche: how do I disable it using firefox
[07:52] <kharloss> i have a sempron 3400+ and a AM2  MB . i have to use "
[07:52] <Croatoan> KubuntuUser: it's going on a diff HDD...will it still work?
[07:52] <kharloss> 64-bit PC (AMD64) server install CD
[07:52] <kharloss> ?
[07:52] <zelda> 6.10 edgy
[07:53] <gaubong> deltaray: no idea.
[07:53] <pyrohotdog> How come I can only get direct rendering by startin X with startx...and not the GDM....?
[07:53] <KubuntuUser_> laz0r yea, however what languages can i use for that... i wont do it, just to know
[07:53] <matthe1> pike_; i cant install nvidia-glx
[07:53] <FactTech> zelda Enter "about:config" in the address bar where you normally put the URL.
[07:53] <pike_> matthe1: im working sometimes i have to minimize irc
[07:53] <deltaray> ok
[07:53] <laz0r> KubuntuUser_ perl?
[07:53] <FactTech> zelda type "ipv6" in the filter field
[07:53] <laz0r> KubuntuUser_ might be done in bash as well
[07:53] <kitche> zelda: ok so you edited /etc/modprobe.d/aliases and added # to the line alias net-pf-10 ipv6
[07:53] <medic30420> pyrohotdog, have you edited your xorg.conf file?
[07:53] <FactTech> zelda Double-click the only listed item.
[07:53] <laz0r> KubuntuUser_ whatever flavour of scripting language you like
[07:53] <zelda> kitche: yes.
[07:53] <matthe1> pike_; it says i cant install that package
[07:54] <KubuntuUser_> laz0r i see... i know js, c c++ c#, some j and some j# but no perl, i think wouldnt be that hard
[07:54] <pyrohotdog> Yeah...not sure exactly what to put, but I've tried a few things.
[07:54] <Croatoan> VERY impressed that Ubuntu has a help channel like this
[07:54] <pyrohotdog> Most OSs do, actually.
[07:54] <n2diy> matthe1: what happens if you go to a terminal, and type perl -v?
[07:55] <itanshi> i have ndiswraper 1.8, the broadcom 4400 source and ipw220 installed, how do i get wireless to work on edgy?
[07:55] <gaubong> pyrohotdog: Try to start X, then start gnome by gnome-session?
[07:55] <medic30420> pyrohotdog, try pasting your xorg.conf file in a pastebin and post the link (scan it first to make sure there isn't any private data in it)
[07:55] <Crescendo> Croatoan, most linux distros have one similiar
[07:55] <pike_> matthe1: im still on dapper so im not really sure how edgy is setup. which package cant you install? the nvidia-glx?
[07:55] <gaubong> pyrohotdog: Will you get direct rendering then?
[07:55] <matthe1> This is perl, v5.8.8 built for i486-linux-gnu-thread-multi
[07:55] <laz0r> KubuntuUser_ actually you wont lose your kde settings and therelike if you backup your home
[07:55] <kharloss> i have a sempron 3400+ and a AM2  MB . i have to use "64-bit PC (AMD64) server install CD ? or use a regular PC (Intel x86) server install CD ?
[07:55] <Croatoan> Crescendo: cool deal
[07:55] <n2diy> matthe1: that's why you can't install it, it already is.
[07:55] <laz0r> KubuntuUser_ just make sure all those . files/dirs will be backuped too
[07:56] <zelda> I think that fixed it: fact
[07:56] <matthe1> ?
[07:56] <Bluedog> .. just tried without quiet splash.. everything is fine, it just locks up at the gnome loading screen
[07:56] <Croatoan> is there anything I should do to my separate HDD other than format it?
[07:56] <Bluedog> corruption is all that comes up :/
[07:56] <KubuntuUser_> laz0r just home... couse if i back up anything else same problem no?
[07:56] <Scooter7> Hi people, I'm having a problem regarding X Server.
[07:56] <matthe1> then why in the hell is driver "nvidia not founded any more
[07:56] <KubuntuUser_> laz0r can i back up in a ntfs partition?
[07:56] <Bluedog> any ideas anyone?
[07:56] <laz0r> KubuntuUser_ if you backup everything you will still have messed up perms
[07:56] <zelda> cause it said network,dns.ipv6 : disable: false. Then I double clicked it and it said trye
[07:56] <zelda> er true
[07:56] <laz0r> KubuntuUser_ but you'll be on the save side
[07:57] <n2diy> matthe1: hmm, I guess I got a thread mixed up with yours, sorry.
[07:57] <KubuntuUser_> laz0r yes, is what i ment... what about the ntfs?
[07:57] <laz0r> KubuntuUser_ i would suggest backing up /etc and /home
[07:57] <matthe1> i'm ?
[07:57] <matthe1> ?
[07:57] <FactTech> zelda Well, the last step is to close the browser, not sure if a reboot is required.
[07:57] <pyrohotdog> C'mon pastebin...don't be slow....
[07:57] <FactTech> zelda Thank kitche, not me.
[07:57] <FactTech> kitche Thanks, kitche. That's a lot easier than the other methods. :)
[07:57] <itanshi> busy room, anyone familiar with broadcom4400 issues wish to pm me? i was able to find the 3 files i needed, but i'm lost now
[07:57] <Vilandil> join #ubuntu-fr
[07:57] <KubuntuUser_> laz0r ok, i'll give it a try... what about ntfs can i back up on a ntfs drive?
[07:58] <laz0r> KubuntuUser_ ntfs? well, i dont know, did you change perms on that too? maybe just boot into win and fix them=
[07:58] <kitche> zelda:kharloss: it doesn't matter which install cd you use if you want a full x86_64 system then use the amd64 one
[07:58] <noodles12> hwo do u change the powersettings on emifreq-applet? i right click it and it gives me the panel options
[07:58] <pyrohotdog> Kay, so pastebin refuses to submit. So, any particular lines I should look at/change...?
[07:58] <matthe1> n2digy: it using "nv" not "nvidia" in etc/X11/xorg.conf i had to change to nv
[07:58] <KubuntuUser_> not at sll i wanted to know if i can back up on an ntfs drive i mean it doesnt breack up the way linux works?
[07:58] <nighthawk002> Hi,  I'm new to ubuntu.  How can I get the '*.aiff' audio to play?
[07:58] <KubuntuUser_> *work
[07:58] <noodles12> !multimedia
[07:58] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[07:58] <kitche> FactTech: well that only disables it for firefox but it works
[07:59] <laz0r> KubuntuUser_ if you can mount it, you could use it for a backup, although i dont know if will lose your perms... but since they are fucked up anyways i guess it doesnt matter
[07:59] <Croatoan> is there anything I should do to my separate HDD other than format it?
[07:59] <KubuntuUser_> lol
[07:59] <nighthawk002> !multimedia
[07:59] <zelda> what did you say?
[07:59] <matthe1> the x wouldnt work with driver "nvidia":(
[07:59] <zelda> Sorry I had to reboot
[07:59] <n2diy> ! language
[07:59] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:59] <pike_> this is the reason i think ubuntu default install should create /home as a sep partition. it would make reinstalling much easier for people without losing configs..
[07:59] <nighthawk002> thanx ubotu
[07:59] <KubuntuUser_> laz0r changing topic (instalation is on its way) if i wnat to do the script i'd have to look for the righ objets... and properties... nah just reinstall thank god for the ADSL
[08:00] <pyrohotdog> Yay! http://pastebin.com/856115
[08:00] <Croatoan> is there anything I should do to my separate HDD other than format it?
[08:00] <Croatoan> i am installing Ubuntu on that drive
[08:01] <White_Lightning> gentlemen
[08:01] <White_Lightning> and ladies, of course
[08:01] <matthe1> CRoatoan: thats a big risk on your ntfs
[08:01] <mnoir> Croatoan: the install process will imclude the formatting and you do not need to do anything first :)
[08:01] <laz0r> KubuntuUser_ perl or bash are not object-oriented (actually you can do oop in perl, but for a simple script you wouldnt), if you wanna check out what perl can do, look up cpan.perl.org and search for something
[08:01] <Scooter7> Hi people, I'm having a problem regarding X Server.
[08:01] <KubuntuUser_> laz0r i see
[08:01] <medic30420> pyrohotdog, there is a line "XAANoOffScreenPixmaps" "false", is yours false or true?
[08:01] <laz0r> KubuntuUser_ and in bash you would just use shell commands
[08:01] <Croatoan> matthe1: what is the risk?
[08:01] <White_Lightning> Scooter7: what problems
[08:01] <Scooter7> Well
[08:02] <zelda> someone post that link to help disable IPv6 again please
[08:02] <KubuntuUser_> laz0r i last time i used a non-objet-oriented language was qbasic i think
[08:02] <kitche> zelda: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[08:02] <zelda> thanks
[08:02] <zelda> its still not working
[08:02] <pyrohotdog> medic30420: http://pastebin.com/856115
[08:02] <pyrohotdog> I don't even have that line.
[08:02] <matthe1> Croatoan ntfs is a bad set up it make split up right but some files made be lost
[08:02] <medic30420> pyrohotdog, thanks, i am looking now
[08:03] <pyrohotdog> thanks. :)
[08:03] <Croatoan> matthe1: well i'm not installing it on the same HDD as Windows...it's a diff HDD
[08:03] <kane77> hi
[08:03] <pyrohotdog> near-default.
[08:03] <Scooter7> After the screen with the ubuntu logo and progress bar, I get a funny screen with ascii symbols and the words 'Failed to start X server (your graphical interface).
[08:03] <zelda> ive done everything the file indicates and nothing.
[08:03] <matthe1> Croatoan: ur fine
[08:03] <Croatoan> thx :)
[08:03] <matthe1> Croatoan: just pop in the live cde
[08:03] <laz0r> KubuntuUser_ i would say perl is really worth checking out if you want to write some shell scripts, its really powerfull
[08:03] <zelda> ive even tried to disable it using firefox. Ive rebooted 10x and nothing...
[08:03] <zelda> WTF?!
[08:03] <GrayMagiker> I am looking to set up a testing server (running Daper, with the LAMP setup).  This server would not need to be active all the time, and would only be avalible from our local network.  If I set this up on a dual booted machine that runs winXP what are the chances that in playing with some php sites and MySQL databases ect that I will hose the XP partition?
[08:03] <Scooter7> This is the first time I've used Ubuntu.
[08:04] <kitche> Scooter7: have to reconfigure X by doing sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:04] <kane77> ubuntu sometimes change the default network device... how can I make ra0 default once and for all... (or at least until I change my mind)??
[08:04] <KubuntuUser_> laz0r ok
[08:04] <pike_> Scooter7: alt-ctrl-f2 then login then 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' choose vesa  for your driver
[08:04] <Scooter7> Alright, I'll try that, thanks.
[08:04] <mnoir> GrayMagiker: depends on how careful you are - it all works  and is reliable....
[08:04] <matthe1> Croatoan: and click install icon and follow then click set manuly on disks make sure u add a swap..:P
[08:04] <adx> anyone recommend a widget application like superkaramba?
[08:04] <pike_> Scooter7: then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:04] <pike_> Scooter7: good luck
[08:04] <kane77> adx, gdesklets, adesklets
[08:05] <Bluedog> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=317696&highlight=7800+GT
[08:05] <Seeker``> hi, i'm having problems with my netgear wireless card
[08:05] <adx> kane77: what's the difference between the two?
[08:05] <Bluedog> seems my problem is common
[08:05] <Seeker``> it is running on the acx drivers
[08:05] <Bluedog> 7800GT and the live CD dont seem to work
[08:05] <Seeker``> i dont seem to be able to maintain a net connection
[08:05] <mnoir> adx: try them and see
[08:05] <kane77> adx, adesklets are lightweight and dont have as much eyecandy
[08:05] <kane77> adx, gdesklets are nicer but use more memory
[08:06] <Bluedog> if the live cd doesnt work, is there a chance a basic install would? :S
[08:06] <Seeker``> sometimes when i start i have a connection, but it suddnely drops and dhclient/ ifup don't seem to be able to get a new address.
[08:06] <adx> kane77: do adesklets need gnome?
[08:06] <KubuntuUser_> i can't wrrite to a NTFS?!
[08:06] <Bluedog> need to get the driver in there somehow
[08:06] <mnoir> !ntfs | KubuntuUser_
[08:06] <ubotu> KubuntuUser_: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:06] <Seeker``> when I do dhclient, i sometimes get the message "bogus UDP packet length: 1540"
[08:06] <kitche> !ntfs-3g|KubuntuUser_|use this to get write support
[08:06] <ubotu> KubuntuUser_|use this to get write support: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[08:06] <kane77> adx, dunno.. but I think no...
[08:06] <itanshi> i checked the ubuntu docs, no info on b44
[08:06] <eteran> anyone knows if there is an either official or unofficial irc channel for bluefish on freenode or annother network?
[08:07] <Bluedog> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311949&highlight=7800+GT same again, balls
[08:07] <kane77> ubuntu sometimes change the default network device... how can I make ra0 default once and for all... (or at least until I change my mind)??
[08:07] <GrayMagiker> Mnoir: I know the basic setup is stable, and my desktop dual boot Ubuntu and XP no problem; however I don't know much about php or managing a websever (hence the test server) what kinds of things would I have to do in php to render the machine unable to boot XP
[08:07] <mnoir> eteran: what does the bluefish support page say?
[08:07] <kitche> eteran: see if irc.gnome.org has a channel for it
[08:07] <phr34ck> from where I can download themes for gnome ?
[08:07] <eteran> just mailing lists on the official homepage
[08:08] <mnoir> GrayMagiker: neither item is particularly hazardous
[08:08] <phr34ck> also, are there any available icon packages ?
[08:08] <mnoir> GrayMagiker: ya just want to watch for general fat fingers
[08:08] <cellwind929> you can change the look of gnome around on the gnome-look site
[08:08] <medic30420> pyrohotdog, i think the problem is that you are missing an option line under the device section
[08:08] <Belboz99> anyone who wants to help out a poor frustrated soul can check out my thread here:
[08:08] <Belboz99> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=335572
[08:08] <pike_> phr34ck: art.gnome.org is decent and has a good faq
[08:08] <pyrohotdog> I see....
[08:08] <Bluedog> Is anyone in here running ubuntu 6.10 with an nVidia 7800 gt?
[08:09] <mnoir> GrayMagiker: in fact i do not know of anything specific you can do with lamp to kill the xp side of yer machine
[08:09] <phr34ck> pike_, thanks.
[08:09] <pyrohotdog> Solution?
[08:09] <medic30420> i have the intel chipset, so i don't want to just tell you to add the option line as i have mine
[08:09] <noodles12> how do u change performance profiles in emifreq-applet?
[08:09] <mnoir> GrayMagiker: i have been lamping here forever and it just works mostly
[08:09] <zelda> Ok, ive done everything I can to disable IPv6 and it will not disable.. someone help me.. PLEASE. Im getting frustrated
[08:09] <n2diy> pyrohotdog: was that your xorg.conf on pastebin?
[08:09] <medic30420> pyrohotdog,  you do have an nvidia, correct?
[08:10] <phr34ck> pike_, is it hard to change to another file manager? I want to experiment another file manager. I'm currently using Nautilus.
[08:10] <pyrohotdog> Correct.
[08:10] <pyrohotdog> Geforce4 Ti 4200 for the record.
[08:10] <GrayMagiker> Cool.  I guess that is what I wanted to know.  We are condsidering buying a new machine for the test server, and the XP side is only incase my bosses laptop dies.  It would be nice not to have to buy more hardware
[08:10] <kitche> Belboz99: maybe your version of libasound is wrong see what version your libasound says
[08:11] <n2diy> pyrohotdog: was that your xorg.conf on pastebin?
[08:11] <mnoir> phr34ck: it is nothing to use many filemanagers at the same time.  try gnome-commander for instance
[08:11] <itanshi> i've searched google, ubuntu docs, forums, wikis, no info on how to get broadcom 4400 driver, ipw2200, and ndiswrapper to = wireless connectivity
[08:11] <pyrohotdog> n2diy: Yes.
[08:11] <Belboz99> kitche, how do I check the version?
[08:11] <chdlby> hey !
[08:11] <zelda> Kitche: you still there? I need some help
[08:11] <phr34ck> mnoir, but what's the difference? on what basis a file manager is concidered good ?
[08:11] <chdlby> Can you help me
[08:11] <kitche> Belboz99: should say in synaptic
[08:11] <eteran> kitche: no it hasn't, thanks for the tip anyways
[08:11] <pike_> phr34ck: well it might be involved to change the default file manager but you can install and run others without problem.  thunar for example
[08:11] <Yeti_69> !french
[08:11] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:12] <mnoir> GrayMagiker: i have a dualboot laptop that rund lamp - working for 2.5 yrs now :)
[08:12] <pyrohotdog> Suggestions? Direct rendering works fine, if I start X with startx...but not through GDM login.
[08:12] <kitche> zelda yes I m here for now
[08:12] <n2diy> pyrohotdog: ok, I noticed all refrences to your video card were listed as generic, it might help if you adding something more specific?
[08:12] <mnoir> phr34ck: seriously, the only criteria is do you like it.
[08:12] <zelda> ive done everything the help forums tell me, Ive disabled it in firefox, and when I put in ip a |grep inet 6, I still get stuff back, telling me that ipv6 is still enabled.
[08:12] <zelda> WTF?
[08:12] <Belboz99> kitche: 1.0.11-7ubuntu3
[08:12] <pyrohotdog> I thought about that, it WAS filled in for me...recent updates seem to be what killed it, as far as I can figure.
[08:12] <phr34ck> pike_, umm I think I will try some now, since it won't change my default file manager, correct?
[08:13] <phr34ck> mnoir, ummm. It's okay then/.
[08:13] <mnoir> phr34ck: some folks prefer naut, some konqueror, some mc
[08:13] <GrayMagiker> mnoir: so I'll have to end up re installing XP before it ruins it anyway, due to XP
[08:13] <kitche> Belboz99: you need 1.0.12
[08:13] <Belboz99> kitche: you're right, I just saw that
[08:13] <pike_> phr34ck: yeah. mc is cool to use from terminal
[08:13] <mnoir> GrayMagiker: ??
[08:13] <phr34ck> mnoir, so it's the same argument as what's better? Gnome or KDE..
[08:13] <_raphael_> i tried the nvidia repo on this page http://albertomilone.com/ , and now I can`t even go back the old drivers
[08:13] <medic30420> pyrohotdog, it looks like you add the following lines  Option      "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true" :: Option      "DRI"     "true"
[08:13] <mnoir> phr34ck: yes but even more pointless
[08:14] <n2diy> pyrohotdog: did you look for a back up file, could be something like xorg.conf~
[08:14] <phr34ck> mnoir, hehe. Thanks for the help.
[08:14] <_raphael_> and I get amd64_agp in lsmod.. seems like it shouldn`t be there, since I am running i386
[08:14] <medic30420> pyrohotdog, to your xorg.conf file, under the device heading (where is says nvidia)
[08:14] <GrayMagiker> mnoir: what i ment was: XP will crash on it's own, because it is unstable IMO, brefore LAMP causes it to crash
[08:14] <schlonzo> can somebody pls tell me the command for quick mounting devices?
[08:14] <Enverex> _raphael_, yes it should be
[08:14] <recon31> has anyone in here installed mythtv on ubuntu
[08:14] <Enverex> _raphael_, That's a part of the hardware, that's what it's named
[08:14] <mnoir> GrayMagiker: yes - it is not likely that lamp would ever do anything to your xp partitions, ever
[08:14] <medic30420> pyrohotdog, if i were you, i would just install beryl
[08:14] <_raphael_> Enverex: ok. I still have problems with nvidia drivers
[08:14] <Belboz99> kitche: GAH!  It needs a different version of libc6!
[08:15] <pyrohotdog> I have beryl installed
[08:15] <phr34ck> how does apt-cache get updated? is it by using apt-get update?
[08:15] <pyrohotdog> and it works fine...
[08:15] <medic30420> aha
[08:15] <Belboz99> I'm in dependency hell :(
[08:15] <Enverex> _raphael_, Install them with apt-get then change xorg.conf drive to nvidia, that's all you need to do
[08:15] <zelda> Kitche: can you help me or not?
[08:15] <schlonzo> how is the command to mount my other devices?
[08:15] <medic30420> pyrohotdog, you have a lot more than that missing from your xorg.conf file
[08:15] <phr34ck> mnoir, I hail you for that.
[08:15] <GrayMagiker> mnoir: Thanks for re-asurance! :)  Guess it is time to install Daper on that box then.
[08:16] <phr34ck> mnoir, but as you said .. what's the point ?
[08:16] <_raphael_> Enverex: when I run apt-get install nvidia.glx, it says it is allready installed
[08:16] <pyrohotdog> ugh.
[08:16] <kitche> zelda: what does sudo ifconfig say about inet6
[08:16] <recon31> I can't get mythtv to install help me please
[08:16] <gaubong> schlonzo: What devices?
[08:16] <schlonzo> hdd's
[08:16] <Enverex> _raphael_, Have you set your xorg.conf to use it?
[08:16] <medic30420> pyrohotdog, google for beryl nvidia ubuntu xorg.conf and you will find some example xorg.conf files
[08:16] <payton> Can anyone tell me how to manually install a Kommander extension?
[08:16] <gaubong> schlonzo: First, find out what are the device files for them
[08:16] <gaubong> schlonzo: In /dev
[08:16] <_raphael_> will put nvidia in xorg.conf, and restart x. back in a few seconds, hopefully
[08:16] <mnoir> GrayMagiker: have fun - i have a virtual domain setup here that allows my client code to run unchanged in test local mode before i upload - i makes development very nice
[08:16] <pyrohotdog> Alright. Thanks. :)
[08:17] <mnoir> client=customer
[08:17] <black_abaddon> i am back
[08:17] <zelda> o        Link encap:Local Loopback
[08:17] <zelda>           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
[08:17] <zelda>           inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
[08:17] <zelda>           UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
[08:17] <zelda>           RX packets:6 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[08:17] <zelda>           TX packets:6 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[08:17] <zelda>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
[08:17] <HHak> can you say , how can i mount Kingston USB memory stick into my Ubuntu ?
[08:17] <zelda>           RX bytes:300 (300.0 b)  TX bytes:300 (300.0 b)
[08:17] <gaubong> schlonzo: Then create a folder some where (/mnt for example)
[08:17] <pyrohotdog> Gunna try a few things...will return.
[08:17] <HHak> please
[08:17] <zelda> oops
[08:17] <black_abaddon> back in black
[08:17] <mnoir> !flood
[08:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:17] <schlonzo> okey one second
[08:17] <un_operateur> !paste | zelda
[08:17] <ubotu> zelda: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[08:17] <Belboz99> well, it appears there is no kvm for Edgy :( Only Feisty
[08:17] <gaubong> schlonzo: Then use mount /dev/... /mnt/...
[08:17] <zelda> thanks. I have like 10 people telling me, .
[08:17] <kitche> zelda: then it's probably disabled if you don't have ainet6 addr
[08:17] <zelda> I made a mistake
[08:17] <HHak> Can you say, how can I mount Kingston USB memory stick into my Ubuntu. Just plugging in the stick did not work
[08:17] <mnoir> zelda: that is cuz you did a dump on us
[08:18] <zelda> i know that. I made a mistake
[08:18] <zelda> wrong channel
[08:18] <schlonzo> i have already one hdd mouted the other isnt now because i formated it to FAT
[08:18] <gaubong> schlonzo: Yeah, OK.
[08:18] <pike_> HHak: plug it in.  "ls -t /dev | head" if you see sda1 or b1 or c1 etc.  do "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usb"  should work. if it doesnt dot lsusb to make sure device is even recognized
[08:18] <_raphael_> X wouldn`t start with nvidia in xorg.conf. had to change it to nv
[08:19] <recon31> how do i install a package that apt-get install won't find?
[08:19] <schlonzo> there is a fiile in /dev that is called hdb2
[08:19] <gaubong> schlonzo: Try cfdisk
[08:19] <gaubong> schlonzo: To see which device file is which drive.
[08:19] <mnoir> recon31: source or binary pkg?
[08:19] <schlonzo> it says fatal error
[08:19] <zelda> kitche: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1089/
[08:19] <un_operateur> !repositories | recon31
[08:19] <ubotu> recon31: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:19] <schlonzo> i know hdb2 is my new one
[08:19] <iketurner> hello all
[08:19] <Zaggynl> ack, I just installed some updates to the xorg, now anything 3d makes my X crash
[08:19] <Zaggynl> those updates were from the repositories btw :/
[08:19] <Zaggynl> dapper
[08:19] <recon31> it mythtv I down loaded to desktop
[08:20] <kitche> zelda: ok pastebin cat /etc/modprobe.d/bad_list
[08:20] <pike_> HHak: another way is to do 'dmesg | tail' after you plug it in to see if it shows up
[08:20] <gaubong> schlonzo: Um, so that's your second hdd?
[08:20] <m12> is it possible that a bios update could make the fans run more often?
[08:20] <zelda> kitche: and that will work?
[08:20] <schlonzo> thats my secound partition on my seccond hdd and its fat32
[08:20] <mnoir> !info mythtv | recon31
[08:20] <ubotu> mythtv: A personal video recorder application (client and server). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.20-0.2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 19 kB, installed size 64 kB
[08:21] <gaubong> schlonzo: Then try cfdisk /dev/sdb
[08:21] <gaubong> schlonzo: OK, no need
[08:21] <Zaggynl> Does the update manager keep a log on updates?
[08:21] <gaubong> schlonzo: You can mount it right away if you are sure that's the new one.
[08:21] <iketurner> after you install ubuntu and do updates is the firewall automatically enabled
[08:21] <mnoir> Zaggynl: yes
[08:21] <schlonzo> okey
[08:21] <recon31> ubotu how do I get it to install
[08:21] <schlonzo> per mout ?
[08:21] <mnoir> !multiverse | recon31
[08:22] <ubotu> recon31: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:22] <schlonzo> mout /dev/hda2 ?
[08:22] <kitche> zelda: just pastbin that file
[08:22] <gaubong> schlonzo: Create a folder (/mnt/hdb2 for example)
[08:22] <recon31> what is multiverse
[08:22] <gaubong> schlonzo: Then run mount /dev/hdb2 /mnt/hdb2
[08:22] <pike_> !repos | recon31
[08:22] <zelda> in badlist?
[08:22] <schlonzo> okey
[08:22] <mnoir> recon31: those nice links were written especially for you to answer that question
[08:22] <un_operateur> recon31, ubuntu has a few online respositories of optional packages you can install - multiverse is one of them
[08:23] <schlonzo> okey
[08:23] <recon31> ok
[08:23] <kitche> zelda: this file /etc/modprobe.d/bad_list
[08:23] <zelda> yeah but paste the correction to that file?
[08:23] <Belboz99> what do you guys think?  Is it worth it to upgrade to Feisty?  Is it stable enough yet?
[08:23] <Zaggynl> I just installed the following updates: http://www.pastebin.ca/312270
[08:23] <schlonzo> sry i cant build a new folder
[08:23] <kitche> zelda: just paste the file to a pastebin as is
[08:23] <Zaggynl> now my xserver refuses anything to do with 3d
[08:23] <Zaggynl> glxinfo makes my x crash
[08:24] <mnoir> Belboz99: no
[08:24] <iketurner>  zelda what does this do /etc/modprobe.d/bad_list
[08:24] <Zaggynl> anything 3d
[08:24] <un_operateur> Belboz99, it is stable if you can take the reins and brave the rough ride out
[08:24] <_raphael_> I can`t get the nvidia drivers to work. apt-get says nvidia-glx is installed, but X won`t start with nvidia in xorg.conf
[08:24] <un_operateur> !nvidia | _raphael_
[08:24] <ubotu> _raphael_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:25] <Belboz99> un_operateur: I used Edgy Eft from about June on, is it better or worse than that?
[08:25] <mnoir> Belboz99: go to #ubuntu+1 to ask that question
[08:25] <pike_> _raphael_: does 'sudo nvidia-xconfig' work?
[08:25] <blekos> hello, how can i uninstall kubuntu?
[08:25] <FunnyMan3595> blekos: With what end goal?
[08:25] <mnoir> blekos: what do you mean - please elaborate
[08:25] <blekos> i have ubuntu installed
[08:26] <HHak> thx
[08:26] <zelda> kitche: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1090/
[08:26] <blekos> and then tryied to install Kubuntu unsuccesfully
[08:26] <pike_> blekos: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Uninstall_kubuntu-desktop
[08:26] <un_operateur> Belboz99, errm, I won't say worse, i won't say better either because they are relative things -- most packages are of new versions, so more/better functionality is added on, but the distro is not yet released as it's a little unstable
[08:26] <pike_> blekos: that will not uninstall the operating system
[08:26] <blekos> so, I want to remove the whole Kubuntu experience
[08:26] <pyrohotdog> Grrr.
[08:26] <schlonzo>  NTFS-fs warning (device hdb2): is_boot_sector_ntfs(): Invalid boot sector checksum.
[08:26] <schlonzo> [17180234.696000]  NTFS-fs error (device hdb2): read_ntfs_boot_sector(): Primary boot sector is invalid.
[08:26] <schlonzo> [17180234.696000]  NTFS-fs error (device hdb2): read_ntfs_boot_sector(): Mount option errors=recover not used. Aborting without trying to recover.
[08:26] <schlonzo> [17180234.696000]  NTFS-fs error (device hdb2): ntfs_fill_super(): Not an NTFS volume.
[08:26] <un_operateur> !paste | schlonzo
[08:26] <ubotu> schlonzo: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[08:26] <blekos> yes, maybe uninstall KDE files
[08:26] <mnoir> !flood | schlonzo
[08:26] <ubotu> schlonzo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:26] <kitche> zelda: is that all that is in that file?
[08:27] <_raphael_> pike_: yep, but the X won`t start
[08:27] <zelda> kitche: yes
[08:27] <Belboz99> un_operateur: would it be wise to use dd to backup my root partition?
[08:27] <_raphael_> pike_: maybe my nvidia-glx is made for a kernel I am not running?
[08:27] <gaubong_> schlonzo: schlonzo: Are you sure that partition is fat?
[08:27] <pyrohotdog> I just don't understand man. It all worked so wonderfully before stupido apt-get update...
[08:27] <pike_> _raphael_: sorry im not too familar with ubntu nvidia package i normally install from nvidia.com
[08:27] <schlonzo> yes.
[08:27] <schlonzo> in windoze it says it FAT32
[08:27] <iketurner> raphael did you check the HCL to confirm it is supported
[08:28] <gaubong_> schlonzo: Try to run cfdisk /dev/hdb
[08:28] <kitche> zelda: well that's probably your problem right there mind has bunch of lines in it
[08:28] <iketurner> and also what kernel are you running
[08:28] <_raphael_> pike_: I tried that too, but the .run file says it can`t find the source
[08:28] <gaubong_> schlonzo: See whether that's the partition you want.
[08:28] <schlonzo> it says "FATAL ERROR"
[08:28] <Mike__> I know there is a way to do this.. just not sure how.. I would like to change the ubuntu png on the top menu.. How do I do it
[08:28] <gaubong_> schlonzo: How many partition do you have in that drive?
[08:28] <HHak> thanks, it worked
[08:28] <schlonzo> two.
[08:28] <pike_> _raphael_: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Edgy#METHOD_2  is involved but should work
[08:28] <gaubong_> schlonzo: And how many hdb? in your /dev
[08:28] <zelda> kitche: then what am I missing? I have ubuntu edgy 6.10
[08:28] <un_operateur> Belboz99, errm, not necessary .. you can use any backup method for /
[08:29] <schlonzo> hdb0 hdb1 hdb2
[08:29] <statical> Any1 know how to detect the soundcard? I'm inst ALSA
[08:29] <schlonzo> hda0 hda1 hda2
[08:29] <un_operateur> Belboz99, just as long as you can recover easily from the backup
[08:29] <FunnyMan3595> I'm looking for a way to create a passwordless SSH account to tunnel one port (-L localhost:8888:localhost:8888) and allow nothing else.  Any ideas how to assemble it?
[08:29] <kane77> ubuntu sometimes change the default network device... how can I make ra0 default once and for all... (or at least until I change my mind)??
[08:29] <zelda> kitche: should I do this? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-87798.html
[08:29] <kitche> zelda: nevermind I was looking at a different file but that seems right
[08:30] <gaubong_> schlonzo: OK, so that's an extended partition?
[08:30] <recon31> how can i install multiverse
[08:30] <croatoan> hello again all
[08:30] <gaubong_> schlonzo: Try to force it to mount the partition as fat.
[08:30] <kitche> zelda yes
[08:30] <croatoan> i am having trouble installing Ubuntu
[08:30] <iketurner> apt-get multiverse
[08:30] <_raphael_> pike_: uninstalling old kernels from my system. hoping a reboot will do the trick
[08:30] <schlonzo> how to do this?
[08:30] <gaubong_> schlonzo: mount -t vfat /dev/hdb2 /mnt/hdb2
[08:30] <croatoan> says there is an error creating the file system
[08:30] <zelda> kitche: evenb though that is for Dapper?
[08:30] <ninjjax> Algum brasileiro ai?!
[08:30] <ninjjax> ?!
[08:30] <un_operateur> !pt
[08:30] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[08:30] <ninjjax> aLGUM BRASILEIRO AI?
[08:30] <zaggynl> hi, I just removed my xserver (some update borked it)
[08:31] <zaggynl> I'm using irssi now
[08:31] <ninjjax> oq
[08:31] <ninjjax> ok
[08:31] <zaggynl> how do I reinstall x-server again?
[08:31] <kanzie> ok, I need serious help. My computer was sitting idle and the screensaver was jottering on, suddenly it froze and I could not wake it up, i tried all sorts of commands such as ctrl-alt-backspace with no effect. The only thing left to do for me was to hard reset. When trying to start the X server up now it fails and complains about unusable configuration of nvidia jadda jadda... PLEASE, I need to get the computer back online,...
[08:31] <recon31> where can I download multiverse from
[08:31] <Alakazamz0r> Hi
[08:31] <Alakazamz0r> How can I add new hardware
[08:32] <Alakazamz0r> I need to add an IOmega jaz drive.
[08:32] <pyrohotdog> Is there a way to kill X without it automatically restarting?
[08:32] <Alakazamz0r> Its paralell
[08:32] <iketurner> earlier it was daid that apt-get can install mulitvers recond31
[08:32] <kanzie> If I switch to console-view and log in and let it stay like that it starts dumping loads of stuff about "rejecting I/O to dead device" and stuff
[08:32] <Alakazamz0r> pyrohotdog, ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:32] <pike_> did they just push out an update or something? alot of nvidia issues..
[08:32] <zaggynl> pike_: yes
[08:32] <iketurner> !apt-get
[08:32] <linuxero_> hello!
[08:32] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[08:32] <pyrohotdog> Alakazamz0r: No, that just restarts it.
[08:32] <zaggynl> something really borked my X ><
[08:32] <FunnyMan3595> !hi | linuxero_
[08:32] <farkr> pyrohotdog  /etc/init.d/gdm stop   ?
[08:32] <ubotu> linuxero_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:32] <recon31> yes it was I tried that but apt-get could not find multiverse
[08:32] <Alakazamz0r> pyrohotdog, try in console "init 3"
[08:33] <iketurner> Read all of you asking how to install different packages
[08:33] <linuxero_> i am spanish
[08:33] <Alakazamz0r> maybe
[08:33] <Batman> ux.de
[08:33] <FunnyMan3595> !es | linuxero_
[08:33] <ubotu> linuxero_: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:33] <croatoan> Ubuntu says there is an error creating the file system on the drive i'm trying to install on....any ideas?
[08:33] <linuxero_> i have a problem
[08:33] <schlonzo> i think it doesnt work :(
[08:33] <iketurner> do a google search there should be a tar.gz package avalible
[08:33] <kitche> zelda: that forum opost seems to work better then the one on the wiki
[08:33] <gaubong_> schlonzo: You may want to try with hdb1 as well
[08:33] <gaubong_> schlonzo: But I don't think it will work
[08:34] <gaubong_> schlonzo: Seems like your partition table was broken.
[08:34] <kanzie> please guys...is Edgy and linux really this unstable... I just installed it a day ago... and one freeze makes the whole system corrupt?
[08:34] <pyrohotdog> init 3 did NOTHING.
[08:34] <zelda> kitche: ok im rebooting. hope to god it works.
[08:34] <pyrohotdog> everytime I kill the damn thing it restarts!
[08:34] <FunnyMan3595> linuxero_: You're welcome to ask a question here, but you'll probably be more comfortable in #ubuntu-es
[08:34] <IrishFreak> Is there a way when installing Ubuntu to make it on a small (5gb) partition?
[08:35] <Enverex> IrishFreak, Should fit fine afaik
[08:35] <linuxero_> In ubuntu-es they do not know it
[08:35] <mnoir> !multiverse | recon31 this link really will tell you how to manage your repositories to allow multiverse
[08:35] <ubotu> recon31 this link really will tell you how to manage your repositories to allow multiverse: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:35] <tyme-> !mysql
[08:35] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[08:35] <farkr> pyrohotdog did you try what i said
[08:35] <schlonzo> okey... the other partitons seems to be mounted in /media hdb2 is there to!
[08:35] <FunnyMan3595> linuxero_: Well, we can't answer a question you haven't asked.
[08:35] <schlonzo> but
[08:35] <pyrohotdog> sorry, console mode bitchx, can you repeat it?
[08:35] <croatoan> i am getting the error " The ext3 file system creation in partition #1 of (HDD) failed
[08:35] <schlonzo> i cant see it as hdd
[08:35] <zaggynl> :q
[08:35] <schlonzo> only as a folder
[08:35] <pyrohotdog> farkr.
[08:35] <croatoan> anyone help?
[08:35] <farkr> pyrohotdog  /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:35] <IrishFreak> Enverex when i go to install it, Ubuntu wants to make like a 60GB partition
[08:35] <pike_> kanzie: run memtest first then gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log   and other log files and look for errors.
[08:35] <linuxero_> 3dmark03 with wine, I have installed it
[08:35] <gaubong_> schlonzo: Empty folder???
[08:36] <schlonzo> the partition is emtpy ^^
[08:36] <jkimball4> What directory do system-wide symbolic links go into?
[08:36] <iketurner> So if we install the workstation we will need to add the server apps using apt-get
[08:36] <Enverex> IrishFreak, Use the "manual partition edit" thing then go through that then set it up
[08:36] <pyrohotdog> farkr: Worked, thanks. :)
[08:36] <IrishFreak> mmk
[08:36] <Devil_Kin> hey folks, is there any repository you can use for things like the w32codecs and such? There used to be the PLF, but those seem to have vanished
[08:36] <gaubong_> schlonzo: But I have no idea why cfdisk said FALTA ERROR.
[08:36] <farkr> pyrohotdog and if it was kde you'd just replace gdm with kdm
[08:36] <linuxero_> 3dmark03 with wine, I have installed it but all the tests do not work
[08:36] <Mike__> I know there is a way to do this.. just not sure how.. I would like to change the ubuntu png on the top menu.. How do I do it?
[08:36] <FunnyMan3595> Devil_Kin: I think the PLF changed its address.
[08:37] <schlonzo> i dont know....
[08:37] <schlonzo> its strange...
[08:37] <karmikaze> anyone here convert videos for psp?
[08:37] <zelda> kitche : nope didnt work
[08:37] <pyrohotdog> farkr: Thank you, learned a new command. ; )
[08:37] <nn531> i just installed amarok and want to build a collection using my external hard drive... any takers?
[08:37] <gaubong_> schlonzo: Try fdisk -l /dev/hdb
[08:37] <Zaggynl> Some dapper updated just borked my x server, I cannot do anything 3d anymore
[08:37] <Devil_Kin> FunnyMan3595: any idea? igoogle isn't being my friend.
[08:37] <Zaggynl> I'm a bit clueless now
[08:37] <schlonzo> he cant open it.
[08:37] <linuxero_> hello?
[08:38] <FunnyMan3595> Devil_Kin: Try changing the URLs in your PLF repositories to http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/
[08:38] <Tox> hi is there any kde channel ?
[08:38] <iketurner> Zaggynl what do the logs say
[08:38] <farkr> tox #kde and #kubuntu
[08:38] <gaubong_> schlonzo: Yet you can mount /dev/hdb0?
[08:38] <jkimball4> What directory do system-wide symbolic links go into?
[08:38] <FunnyMan3595> !kubuntu | tox
[08:38] <ubotu> tox: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[08:38] <Tox> tnx
[08:38] <gaubong_> schlonzo: or not?
[08:38] <Zaggynl> iketurner, which ones would you like to say
[08:38] <Zaggynl> 8see
[08:38] <Zaggynl> *see
[08:38] <pike_> Mike__: i dont use gnome so not sure but should be able to replace the file under /usr/share/pixmaps/whatever  id say
[08:38] <iketurner> you may have to make sure the xserver has removed and reinstall
[08:38] <_raphael_> pike_: works now. it seems it helped to clean up the install kernel packages
[08:38] <FunnyMan3595> Okay, it's been a while, let's see if anyone on now knows how to help me...
[08:38] <schlonzo> nothing happens.
[08:38] <Zaggynl> iketurner, yeah, I'm reinstalling right now
[08:38] <croatoan> I am getting an error installing Ubuntu....says it's unable to create the file system...can someone help?
[08:39] <kitche> zelda so ifconfig still has a inet6 part of it
[08:39] <zelda> Kitche: can I im u?
[08:39] <gaubong_> schlonzo: What do you mean?
[08:39] <linuxero_> help me
[08:39] <schlonzo> can u give me your icq nr. or sth. like that?
[08:39] <pike_> _raphael_: might pastebin what you did seems alot of other having same problem
[08:39] <_raphael_> pike_: the installed kernel packages
[08:39] <FunnyMan3595> linuxero_: Ask a question.
[08:39] <zelda> ifconfig
[08:39] <gaubong_> schlonzo: Sorry, I don't have one.
[08:39] <gaubong_> schlonzo: You may want to ask someone else.
[08:39] <linuxero_> 3dmark03 with wine, I have installed it but all the tests do not work
[08:39] <FunnyMan3595> linuxero_: Sorry, just saw it.
[08:39] <zelda> kitche: yes
[08:39] <_raphael_> pike_: I searched for "kernel" in synaptic and removed the ones i don`t use
[08:39] <gaubong_> schlonzo: Just try my luck, are you running Windows Vista on that hdd?
[08:40] <schlonzo> no nothing.
[08:40] <_raphael_> pike_: trying the latest drivers again
[08:40] <pike_> _raphael_: the new kernel was the culprit then?
[08:40] <gaubong_> schlonzo: Then what have you used to partition the hdd?
[08:40] <FunnyMan3595> linuxero_: Check on winehq.
[08:40] <gaubong_> schlonzo: If it's empty, you may want to repartition it.
[08:40] <schlonzo> i formated it to FAT32 to put my linux AND windooze files on it
[08:40] <Enverex> ...
[08:41] <FunnyMan3595> linuxero_: www.winehq.org
[08:41] <linuxero_> enverex!
[08:41] <BigMac> what does this error mean
[08:41] <Devil_Kin> FunnyMan3595: muchas gracias!
[08:41] <schlonzo> for datatransfer between ubuntu and xp
[08:41] <FunnyMan3595> linuxero_: If anyone knows a way to get it working, they will.
[08:41] <phr34ck> how can I defragment my hdd ?
[08:41] <FunnyMan3595> Devil_Kin: De nada.
[08:41] <linuxero_> Ok funny thank you
[08:41] <croatoan> HELP!!! i get this error when installing Ubuntu
[08:41] <croatoan> The ext3 file system creation in partition #3 of SCSI3 (0,0,0) (sda) failed.
[08:41] <BigMac> MP_BIOS BUG *@%$
[08:41] <BigMac> TI8254
[08:41] <BigMac> 8254
[08:41] <Mike__> which has more eye candy kde or gnome?
[08:41] <userundefine> kde
[08:41] <FunnyMan3595> linuxero_: I also think they're on freenode at #winehq, but I'm not sure.
[08:41] <b_e_l> hello ppl, my update manegr asked for an update of xorg (ubuntu 6.10) after that i get black screens... how to get back? is possible to ?
[08:42] <_raphael_> pike_: alas, the bleeding edge nvidia doesn`t like me
[08:42] <ikonia> Mike__: personal opinion
[08:42] <Enverex> Mike__, Gnome with Beryl
[08:42] <pike_> Mike__: fluxbox
[08:42] <schlonzo> is the thing in /dev a folder or a file?
[08:42] <mnoir> Mike__: try them and see
[08:42] <b_e_l> :(
[08:42] <BigMac> Can someone help me fix this bug so I can instasll ubuntu. It is MP_BIOS 8254 TImer
[08:42] <Mike__> I tried installing Beryl and it didn't work for me
[08:42] <mnoir> schlonzo: neither - it is a representation of the hardware disk
[08:42] <Zaggynl> Well I cannot find anything in the logs
[08:43] <linuxero_> help me
[08:43] <Zaggynl> but as soon as I start glxinfo in X, X crashes
[08:43] <pike_> Mike__: imo kde there are a ton of options you can enable just from the config menues
[08:43] <ikonia> schlonzo: its a device file
[08:43] <b_e_l> thers is a way to undo the upgrade of xorg?
[08:43] <mnoir> schlonzo: you will almost never look at it directly
[08:43] <karmikaze> anyone do psp converting for films??
[08:43] <FunnyMan3595> I want to set up a dummy SSH account to tunnel into the server's localhost:8888.  Any thoughts on how to do this without granting any other permissions?  I was thinking a chroot into a non-writable directory owned by someone else.
[08:43] <ikonia> Zaggynl: dri probably broke
[08:43] <b_e_l> i got the same problem whiot glxinfo
[08:43] <ikonia> karmikaze: not in this channel
[08:43] <FunnyMan3595> But would that just go in the .cshrc (or whatever ubuntu uses)?
[08:43] <Zaggynl> ikonia, after a dapper update?
[08:43] <Zaggynl> What should I do?
[08:44] <ikonia> check the xorg error log
[08:44] <croatoan> HELP!! I get this error when installing Ubuntu The ext3 file system creation in partition #3 of SCSI3 (0,0,0) (sda) failed.
[08:44] <Zaggynl> will put on pastebin
[08:44] <croatoan> need some assistance
[08:44] <ikonia> croatoan: it can't access your scsi disk
[08:44] <ikonia> Zaggynl: just read it
[08:44] <croatoan> ikonia: ok how do i fix it?
[08:44] <ikonia> croatoan: don't know
[08:44] <croatoan> says something about unmounting to get full access
[08:44] <Zaggynl> ikonia, I do not know what I'm looking for
[08:44] <White_Lightning> magic
[08:44] <_raphael_> pike_: guess I just have to wait for Feisty
[08:45] <pike_> _raphael_: why wait someones gotta submit those bug reports :)
[08:45] <Zaggynl> I shouldn't have updated :/
[08:46] <BigMac> Can anyone help me
[08:46] <BigMac> I have no idea what to do
[08:46] <BigMac> I did not have this problem on my desktop
[08:46] <Zaggynl> ima go try a reinstall of envy
[08:46] <croatoan> should the drive jumpers be configured differently or a certain way?
[08:46] <KubuntuUser_> laz0r can you repeat what language did you say i should read about
[08:46] <Slart> If I connect a cell phone using bluetooth, will it be available as a device under the /dev tree?
[08:46] <ikonia> BigMac: whats the problem
[08:47] <mwe> I have 'blacklist pcspkr' in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist but the module is still loaded. How do you fix that?
[08:47] <ikonia> Slart:  an device file will be - the phone won't
[08:47] <linuxero_> hola
[08:47] <Slart> ikonia: =)... sweet.. is there some way of finding out what the device name would be?
[08:47] <BigMac> ikonia:  It is MP_BIOS 8254 TImer not connected to io-apic
[08:47] <ikonia> Slart: check the udev rules
[08:47] <croatoan> NEED HELP!! Getting the following error with Ubuntu Installation "The ext3 file system creation in partition #3 of SCSI3 (0,0,0) (sda) failed."
[08:47] <KubuntuUser_> linuxero_ hola, para ayuda en espanol es mas facil encontrarla en #ubuntu-es
[08:47] <BigMac> Then screen blanks out
[08:47] <docmur> hello all
[08:47] <FunnyMan3595> linuxero_: Sorry, my Spanish is very rusty.  Now, if you knew German as well...
[08:48] <linuxero_> si si pero es q me han baneado
[08:48] <ikonia> BigMac: some sort of hardware error
[08:48] <KubuntuUser_> que has hecho linuxero_
[08:48] <kitche> !es
[08:48] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:48] <ikonia> !es > KubuntuUser_
[08:48] <docmur> I'm trying to install codewarrior on linux and when I run cdrom/install.sh I get a strange error
[08:48] <linuxero_> en winehq hace tiempo
[08:48] <elyon225> Alright, guys... I'm having a very serious problem.  Linux is crashing on me every time a user logs out.  Crtl-Alt-Shift-Backspace does nothing, neither does Crtl-Alt-F2.  Just a white screen, locked up.
[08:48] <KubuntuUser_> ikonia i know he was banned!
[08:48] <docmur> cdrom/install.sh: 288: Syntax error: Bad fd number
[08:48] <ikonia> !es > linuxero_
[08:48] <docmur> what would that mean
[08:48] <KubuntuUser_> linuxero_ intenta de nuevop
[08:48] <pyrohotdog> Okay. I need help now.
[08:49] <pyrohotdog> GDM is hosed.
[08:49] <BigMac> ikonia: What can I do to isolate the thing that causes the error?
[08:49] <pyrohotdog> But startx works still. What the hell.
[08:49] <linux1> have a problem with voice recording in 6.10  mic boost is turned up, and microphone volume is all the way up, but sound recording volume is still very low, how do i turn this up?
[08:49] <linuxero_> jajaja kubuntuuser nothing
[08:49] <ikonia> BigMac: if you can - check out dmesg and the syslog
[08:49] <ikonia> linux1: could be a codec issue
[08:49] <[Kork] > hi. anyone installed acroread 7.0.9 from an aliened deb instead from tar.gz?
[08:49] <mwe> docmur: it would probably mean it doesn't like that /bin/sh is a symlink to /bin/dash instead of /bin/bash
[08:49] <linux1> ikonia; i can hear the recording
[08:49] <BigMac> Sorry ikonia, but how would I go about this?
[08:49] <linux1> its just low
[08:49] <ikonia> linux1: ? sorry
[08:49] <linuxero_> Kubuntuuser you can ask them for my
[08:50] <elyon225> Could anyone help me out with that?
[08:50] <KubuntuUser_> te escucho
[08:50] <croatoan> NEED HELP!! Getting the following error with Ubuntu Installation "The ext3 file system creation in partition #3 of SCSI3 (0,0,0) (sda) failed."
[08:50] <Mike__> to install kde (apt-get install kde)?
[08:50] <ikonia> BigMac: type "dmesg" and look at /var/log/messages
[08:50] <docmur> so should I drop to the sh shell
[08:50] <Zaggynl> Well a driver reinstall fixed it
[08:50] <linux1> ikonia: i dont think its a codec issure, i can hear the sound recording, its just very low
[08:50] <Gosha> !phone
[08:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about phone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:50] <Zaggynl> But I wish I was told when installing the Xorg update
[08:50] <KubuntuUser_> Mike___ no aptg-get kde-desktop
[08:50] <Enverex> KubuntuUser_ / ikonia , We've banned him from #winehq because he drove us all insane
[08:50] <mwe> docmur: if you don't mind /bin/sh pointing to bash (I don't) do sudo ln -fns /bin/bash /bin/sh
[08:50] <ikonia> linux1: so that means it could be encoding at a low volume
[08:50] <pike_> !kde | Mike__
[08:50] <ubotu> Mike__: KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[08:50] <linuxero_> Ask them that as I make work 3dmark03 stepwise
[08:50] <KubuntuUser_> Enverex what did he do?
[08:50] <Gosha> .. so, i have this USB cable connected to my ericcson z530i .. where can i find software for using the connection? file transferring and such
[08:51] <ikonia> Enverex: can we ban him here
[08:51] <elyon225> Zaggynl: Uh oh.  I just installed the xorg update... should I be worried?
[08:51] <linux1> ikonia: how would i fix this
[08:51] <Enverex> ikonia, You need to find an op, heh
[08:51] <mwe> docmur: I did that because of similar problems
[08:51] <Zaggynl> elyon225, try doing glxinfo in a terminal, see what happens
[08:51] <croatoan> NEED HELP!! Getting the following error with Ubuntu Installation "The ext3 file system creation in partition #3 of SCSI3 (0,0,0) (sda) failed."
[08:51] <brussel> ok, very basic question. You are sitting in directory parent, and you want to copy the complete contents of child1 into directory child2. Why doesn't cp -r child1 child2 work?
[08:51] <BigMac> ikonia: checck your pm
[08:51] <Enverex> KubuntuUser_, He spouts random things, insults, anything really and keeps asking stupid questions over and over (I mean really really stupid)
[08:51] <Gosha> !usb
[08:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:51] <Gosha> oh, nevermind i think
[08:52] <KubuntuUser_> !ext3 > croatoan
[08:52] <elyon225> Zaggynl: Uhm, yeah... it changed my vendor name and such...
[08:52] <pike_> brussel: cp -r child1/* child2/  ?
[08:52] <HHak> I have somehow broken my Ubuntu desktop ... When I try to access to some of the admins tools in the System -> Administrator, an error dialog pops up saying "Configuration could not be loaded: you are not allowed to access system configurations". Also, error pops up at login: "failed to initialize HAL". I don't know how to resolve this. Any ideas ? Whats the easiest method of reinstalling the system to back what it was with minimal eff
[08:52] <elyon225> Nice.
[08:52] <Zaggynl> elyon225, it just displayed a bunch? then it's no problem
[08:52] <KubuntuUser_> Enverex u_u there are a lot of them unfortunelly
[08:52] <brussel> pike, so the slashes at the end matter?
[08:52] <HHak> help would be appreciated, thanks
[08:52] <linuxero_> I am a person as you
[08:52] <brussel> pike, i'll give that a try
[08:53] <KubuntuUser_> linuxero_ me dice que hacias preguntas mensas e insultabas personas
[08:53] <mwe> pike_: isn't cp -a /child1/. child2/ ? that would copy dot files as well.
[08:53] <Mike__> hmm.. I get the following when trying to install kde  /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[08:53] <KubuntuUser_> linuxero_ nunca esperes que alguien te ayude si actuas asi
[08:53] <ikonia> can we quit the spanish cat please
[08:53] <ikonia> chat
[08:53] <mwe> Mike__: close synaptic
[08:53] <BigMac> ikonia: PM!
[08:53] <Mike__> oh duh..
[08:53] <KubuntuUser_> ikonia come on we aren't damagging you im actually ounishing him
[08:53] <linuxero_> Only i was asking on wine 1.0
[08:53] <ikonia> big no
[08:53] <Mike__> sorry
[08:53] <linux1> sound recording is low with all sliders and mic boost at max, how do i fix this anyone?
[08:54] <mwe> I don't understand why I can't get module blacklisting to work
[08:54] <BigMac> why won't you answer the pm man
[08:54] <ikonia> KubuntuUser_: sorry - spanish is hard to follow in an english channel
[08:54] <KubuntuUser_> Enverex do you have him still banned?
[08:54] <linuxero_> And on falling leaf
[08:54] <Enverex> KubuntuUser_, yes
[08:54] <ikonia> BigMac: sorry no pms
[08:54] <mwe> I want to stop pcspkr from loading but blacklisting it doesn't help :(
[08:54] <Enverex> BigMac, It's bad manners to PM people without permission
[08:55] <KubuntuUser_> ikonia you dont have to follow it, just ignore it
[08:55] <croatoan> it's saying that the HDD i want to install to is a Read Only Disk....how do i change this?
[08:55] <linuxero_> I will behave myself better
[08:55] <elyon225> Linux is locking up on me every single time a user logs out.  Goes to a white screen with everything frozen (even doing a Crtl-Alt-F2 doesn't work).  The system needs to be rebooted... could someone please help with this?
[08:55] <BigMac> Enverex: It is? Sorry I am new to irc
[08:55] <HHak> I have somehow broken my Ubuntu... When I try to access to some of the admins tools in the System -> Administrator, error pops up "Configuration could not be loaded: you are not allowed to access system configurations". Also, error pops up at login "failed to initialize HAL". I don't know how to resolve this. Any ideas? Whats the easiest method of reinstalling the system to back what it was? I have tried to ask in the message board, b
[08:55] <KubuntuUser_> Enverex just curiosity, no second chances?
[08:55] <Slart> ikonia: ok.. am I supposed to run the udevmonitor when I'm connecting the phone to see what it tells me? or is there some easier way?... I've looked at the rules and they don't tell me much
[08:55] <KubuntuUser_> HHac the esiest? reinstall
[08:55] <Enverex> KubuntuUser_, He'd been warned day after day, heh
[08:55] <ikonia> Enverex: he looks a pain leave him banned
[08:56] <linux1> how would  i turn up my mic gain in 6.10 all microphone sliders and mic boost are at max already?
[08:56] <BigMac> Can I paste What i pmed you?
[08:56] <KubuntuUser_> Enverex well he might deserve it...
[08:56] <BigMac> (2:51:14 PM) BigMac: type dsmsg where?
[08:56] <BigMac> (2:51:21 PM) BigMac: I am using the live cd
[08:56] <BigMac> (2:51:34 PM) BigMac: and I can't get pass the point where it is loading up
[08:56] <brussel> pike, "cp -rf child1/ child2/" doesn't seem to copy all the directories under child1...
[08:56] <Gosha> !3gp
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3gp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <Enverex> KubuntuUser_, Imagine going into an insane asylum and sitting watching someone. It's like that, but it's being typed out over IRC rather than spoken
[08:56] <ikonia> BigMac: boot in fail safe mode
[08:56] <Gosha> when i play 3gp files i dont get any sound, how come?
[08:56] <mwe> I guess I'll just have to remove the stupid module from the hdd entirely to prevent it from loading
[08:57] <BigMac> ikonia: Ok that is an option I could select?
[08:57] <ikonia> yes
[08:57] <mwe> odd that blacklisting doesn't work, though
[08:57] <BigMac> safe graphics mode?
[08:57] <linuxero_> i will have less questions for day
[08:57] <ikonia> yup
[08:58] <n2diy> mwe, I'd just rename it, if it is immune from blacklisting, there could be an important reason.
[08:58] <BigMac> ikonia:same error then the screen blanks?
[08:58] <Enverex> linux1, Have you checked for a 20db Boost option?
[08:58] <RawStupid> question..
[08:59] <ikonia> bigmac what video card
[08:59] <mwe> n2diy: it's just the module for the pc speaker. unloading doesn't hurt. I will just rename it though
[08:59] <linuxero_> 3dmark03 in wine?
[08:59] <RawStupid> anyone ever had any luck getting a CX2388X TV card working in ubuntu?
[08:59] <zelda> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1092/  this right people?
[08:59] <croatoan> HELP! Ubuntu is telling me that my HDD is read only...how do i change this?
[08:59] <ikonia> stop asking about wine
[08:59] <brussel> ok, so i'm doing "man cp" and it says for complete info on cp type "info cp" but this displays info for cpio not cp
[08:59] <pluto> hello
[08:59] <BigMac> uhh I am not sure but I will go check
[08:59] <croatoan> i'm attempting to install it
[08:59] <BigMac> it is a brand new dell laptop
[09:00] <elyon225> Linux is locking up on me every single time a user logs out.  Goes to a white screen with everything frozen (even doing a Crtl-Alt-F2 doesn't work).  The system needs to be rebooted... could someone please help with this?
[09:00] <KubuntuUser_> linuxero no hay algo como #wine-es?/isnt there a wine-es channel?
[09:00] <Mike__> Is there on place to go to get all the plugins that various sites require?
[09:00] <RawStupid> I guess there's not way to get this damn TV card working in Linux
[09:00] <KubuntuUser_> linuxero i'm afraid i cannot help you (no puedo ayudarte)
[09:00] <Enverex> RawStupid, What card?
[09:00] <linuxero_> kubuntuuser in spain i only use wine git
[09:00] <Enverex> KubuntuUser_, There is only one Wine channel
[09:00] <robdeman> hi folks... why is my /var/log/apache2/access.log empty??
[09:00] <RawStupid> the chipset is CX2388X
[09:01] <RawStupid> It's a WinFast TV2000 XP Expert
[09:01] <hgist> guys I run three PCs in a LAN: 1 Xp + 2 ubuntu ; I need an IM SW for sending text and displaying it the relevant PC's Desktop
[09:01] <zelda> brb
[09:01] <KubuntuUser_> Enverex oh i see, he's doom
[09:01] <Gosha> is there something like FAR manager for Ubuntu/Linux?
[09:01] <linuxero_> the benchmark aquamark3 works!
[09:01] <pyrohotdog> I really need help. I'm seriously baffled.
[09:01] <Gabby_Hayes> Howdy
[09:01] <KubuntuUser_> Enverex that's why i dont troll, if you are a linux user community is the only way to go for help
[09:01] <ikonia> stop going on about wine
[09:02] <BigMac> ikonia: ATI RADEON XPRESS1150 with 256 mb
[09:02] <Enverex> RawStupid, DVB-T/C/S or Analog?
[09:02] <ikonia> ahhh ati
[09:02] <mats> When do Beryl become native in ubuntu-versions?
[09:02] <croatoan> NEED ASSISTANCE!! Getting the following error: "The ext3 file system creation in partition #3 of SCSI3 (0,0,0) (sda) failed."
[09:02] <KubuntuUser_> ikonia come on! are you a topic-lawer or something? we are answering questions as well just ignore us
[09:02] <croatoan> says that my HDD is read only
[09:02] <linuxero_> mats in ubuntu 7.04
[09:02] <ikonia> he's answering nothing
[09:02] <ikonia> just rambling about wine
[09:02] <ikonia> show respect to the topic
[09:02] <Nevermore-Lap> hi everyone
[09:02] <mats> linuxero_: ;) aha, ok ;) thanks.
[09:03] <KubuntuUser_> linuxero_ cut-off that or you'll be banned too (basta o te bloquearan aqui tambien)
[09:03] <RawStupid> Enverex: Analog
[09:03] <linuxero_> wait mats!
[09:03] <brussel> i can't believe a stupid cp command can leave me so baffled
[09:03] <Ixan> is it possible to use a text-mode installer in feisty instead of x11 installer? Having problems with my geforce 8800
[09:03] <Nevermore-Lap> hi everyone, i wish to know how to share folders in edgy, and i need also to install the sshd
[09:03] <KubuntuUser_> brussel ask me for stupids commands i changed (chmod) permissions and all linux was crasy
[09:03] <BigMac> ikonia:what is wrong with ati?
[09:03] <ikonia> ba spport
[09:03] <stefg> croatoan: If your partition table isn't 100% prfect, or filesystems on the disks are 'dirty' you have to fix these problems first, before parted will touch a partition
[09:04] <ikonia> bad
[09:04] <docmur> okay I'm trying to install codewarrior and I get this error when I run the install
[09:04] <Enverex> RawStupid, Seen this?
[09:04] <KubuntuUser_> Nevermore-Lap if you are using GNOME just share it (right click>share)
[09:04] <Enverex> http://linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Cx88_devices_%28cx2388x%29
[09:04] <RawStupid> let me check it out
[09:04] <croatoan> stefg: should i format the disk from within Ubuntu?
[09:04] <Nevermore-Lap> KubuntuUser_: i am using gnome!
[09:04] <brussel> kubuntuuser_: i have no idea what you mean.
[09:05] <linuxero_> Do I continue without being able to enter in winehq, why?
[09:05] <RawStupid> Enverex: nah never saw it
[09:05] <BigMac> ikonia:is there anything to do so I could get it running?
[09:05] <stefg> croatoan: so you have a complete hd dedicated to ubuntu? no annoying winblows around?
[09:05] <ikonia> looking
[09:05] <BigMac> I loved ubuntu on my desktop but I need to have a windows computer
[09:05] <croatoan> stefg: nope....i reformatted from within Windows....
[09:05] <brussel> i just want to cp -af child1/ child2/ and get every file and directory under child1 into child2
[09:05] <KubuntuUser_> brussel you said something about a command that made a malfuction on linux i told you i used chmod for messing up my system it was totally awfull
[09:05] <linuxero_> The pendejos say that is for the ident
[09:05] <croatoan> stefg: have a separate HDD dedicated to Ubuntu
[09:06] <KubuntuUser_> Nevermore-Lap what do you want to share with? linux? windows?
[09:06] <Enverex> RawStupid, Well that should be a good start
[09:06] <croatoan> stefg: no winbloz
[09:06] <KubuntuUser_> !Samba
[09:06] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:06] <Nevermore-Lap> KubuntuUser_: i want to share with both
[09:07] <linuxero_> jajaja
[09:07] <stefg> croatoan: ok... then delete everything from that drive.. This means not 'formatting' but erasing the partition table. the installer will suggest a new partion layout format that for you
[09:07] <Enverex> KubuntuUser_, hmm, that info is wrong, it's "smb" you need for that, not Samba, heh (to mount Windows shares)
[09:07] <robdeman> hey folks
[09:07] <Jowi> n2diy, hey, how did it go with that "gateway" problem?
[09:07] <adaptr> howdy
[09:07] <croatoan> stefg: so i should choose the erase entire disk option?
[09:07] <KubuntuUser_> Enverex smb is the command no? wasnt the program itself called Samba?
[09:07] <stefg> croatoan: yes
[09:07] <robdeman> could anybody give me the original /etc/apache2/sites-available/default please?
[09:08] <Enverex> KubuntuUser_, Different things. SMB = Server Message Block
[09:08] <Nevermore-Lap> KubuntuUser_:  since i am on ubuntu gnome, could i simply share the folder?
[09:08] <adaptr> KubuntuUser_: smb is the protocol; most commands start with smb, however
[09:08] <linuxero_> enverex
[09:08] <n2diy> Jowi: still incomeplete, un_op and I got distracted with other stuff.
[09:08] <linuxero_> my friend
[09:08] <BigMac> ikonia:find anything?
[09:08] <croatoan> stefg: ok giving it a shot now
[09:08] <ikonia> not yet
[09:08] <Jowi> n2diy, ah. you tried to assign a static ip/netmask/gateway to the 2nd PC?
[09:09] <natiro> hi
[09:09] <Enverex> linuxero_, What?
[09:09] <e1z0> as noriu paperst
[09:09] <KubuntuUser_> Nevermore-Lap if you want to share with windows use Samba (or smb as someones tell me the protocoll is called) if you want to share with linux just click shra if you want to both use booth methos, right guys?
[09:09] <KubuntuUser_> *share
[09:09] <croatoan> stefg: same error
[09:10] <croatoan> it said one time that the drive was read only....could this be a jumper config error?
[09:10] <linuxero_> enveres that version of 3dmark03 install
[09:10] <elyon225> Linux is locking up on me every single time a user logs out.  Goes to a white screen with everything frozen (even doing a Crtl-Alt-F2 doesn't work).  The system needs to be rebooted... could someone please help with this?
[09:10] <brussel> kubuntuuser_: I'm in root mode, i shouldn't have to worry about mods
[09:10] <Nevermore-Lap> KubuntuUser_: samba i dunno how to use, i only have linux..
[09:10] <Enverex> KubuntuUser_, Samba lets you share your linux folders so Windows machines can mount them. SMB is used to mount Windows shares from your Linux machine.
[09:10] <n2diy> Jowi, yes, and we killed dhcp in the router, and also told the gateway box, it is the gateway. :)  As it stands now, both boxes can ping locallly, and the gateway box can ping externally, but box behind the router can't ping externallly.
[09:10] <foxpaul> hi all. i have a laptop that sleeps and wakes up, but when it wakes the sound quality is terrible. i've tried unloading the module but it's not possible, and restarting alsa has no effect
[09:10] <foxpaul> any ideas what i can try next?
[09:11] <linuxero_> I have proved the version 360,340,320
[09:11] <iceman> what command do i use to change permissions to a file ?
[09:11] <stefg> croatoan: what's that disk? Using sata? how big is it, how is it partioned now? (If you are in linux, 'sudo fdisk -l' and put the results to the pastebin mentioned in /topic
[09:11] <Enverex> KubuntuUser_, See what I mean about Linuxero?
[09:11] <Slart> ikonia: ok.. am I supposed to run the udevmonitor when I'm connecting the phone to see what it tells me? or is there some easier way?... I've looked at the /etc/udev/rules thingy and they don't tell me much
[09:11] <ikonia> kick him
[09:11] <linuxero_> I want to see that I extract punctuation!
[09:11] <Jowi> n2diy, ok. so it is only the "sharing" part that needs to be fixed. I wonder if the problem is that you need to share dial-up (and not a normal ppp connection)
[09:11] <linuxero_> jajaja enverex
[09:12] <deepsa> i have this problem in ubuntu. i can ping google.com open google.com by ip in firefox but not by name.
[09:12] <croatoan> stefg: the disk is a Maxtor 40gb running via a USB to IDE dongle - Linux sees it as SCSI
[09:12] <n2diy> Jowi, I don't know, I thought kppp was ppp?
[09:13] <Enverex> deepsa, You're lacking a nameserver
[09:13] <Stone321> !dns
[09:13] <iketurner> deepsa did you try to query the dns server
[09:13] <kingace> when I run certain software I get Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0"
[09:13] <deepsa> i used 4.2.2.1
[09:13] <kingace> any ideas?
[09:13] <iketurner> nslookup is your friend
[09:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:13] <BigMac> ikonia: can I pm you my email address so when you find something you can email it to me
[09:13] <ikonia> bigmac no
[09:13] <iketurner> if you cannot do that then nameserver is not configured
[09:13] <deepsa> how can i ping google.com ?
[09:13] <deepsa> and dig google.com successfully
[09:13] <Jowi> n2diy, sorry. of course. getting tired. i meant normal *dsl*
[09:13] <Hazuki> ping http://www.google.com
[09:13] <stefg> croatoan: so it's presumably /dev/sda... But I'm afraid  grub won't boot from it anyway...
[09:13] <Hazuki> duh o.o;
[09:13] <iketurner> do a traceroute to it
[09:13] <KubuntuUser_> Enverex yes i can se
[09:13] <KubuntuUser_> *see
[09:13] <ikonia> deepsa: you namesevers
[09:14] <ikonia> we went through this earlier
[09:14] <tuxub> hi, my ubuntu is removing the nvidia-glx for the today's update... is this normal?
[09:14] <deepsa> 4.2.2.1 and 192.168.1.1
[09:14] <linuxero_> weno...
[09:14] <BigMac> hmm
[09:14] <brussel> ok, so i learned cp child1 child2 doesn't put the contents into child2 if child2 already exists, it instead makes a subdirectory within child2 of child1.
[09:14] <tuxub> it hapenned this morning on another machine and I got with no gnome... had to install the nvidia-glx again in text mode to get it working
[09:14] <Li`lEndian> how do i get my webserver configured if its not directly connected to the internet? my ubuntu box shares the connection with an XP box.
[09:14] <tuxub> is this a bug?
[09:14] <KubuntuUser_> linuxero_ if you really use ubuntu you'll need this channel very often i suggest you dont gett banned from here
[09:14] <linuxero_> Enverex, i am banned of for life
[09:14] <n2diy> Jowi, roger on getting tired, I tried to catch a nap an hour and a half ago, no luck there either.  I think it is best to put the gateway issue to bed too, until everyone is fresh again.
[09:14] <blekos> i have a partion  where "/" is mounted and a partition for /home, how can i have a clean install of ubuntu without overwritting /home partition?
[09:15] <croatoan> stefg: ok i have the results of the sudo...where to i paste them?
[09:15] <brussel> so how do i make it work correctly instead of letting it play parent
[09:15] <brussel> and supervising my moves like it knows best
[09:15] <userundefine> blekos, if you already have a /home partition then when you run the installer just tell it to mount that partition as /home and do not format it.
[09:15] <pike_> blekos: just tell the installer where home is and dont select  format
[09:15] <KubuntuUser_> linuxero i was asking for a forgivness but i think you haven't changed yet
[09:15] <stefg> tuxub: have you installed the linux-restricted-modules metapackage? the nvidia-glx is kernel dependant and needs an update, too, if the kernel is updated
[09:15] <BigMac> Well I will be back here laterso If you find out anything please tell me
[09:15] <iketurner> tuxub I think so becasue i saw about 2 or 3people with the same issue
[09:15] <stefg> croatoan: see /topic
[09:15] <mostly> ji all
[09:15] <Moosebuntu> can someone tell me why when I type 'quake2' at a terminal, I get the following? : bash: quake2: command not found : This is located in /usr/local/games/quake2, and I did sudo chmod +x to make it executable to my account.
[09:15] <linuxero_> And richard stallman anger with my emails pufff.
[09:15] <brussel> i can't believe a big forum like this can't answer a simple question about how to copy directories
[09:16] <htaccess> hi is there a faq for getting a second monitir working in ubuntu LTS?
[09:16] <ikonia> linuxero_: leave please, before I request an op takes action
[09:16] <tuxub> stef, I have the restricted too and they were also updated... it updates the restricted modules and removes nvidia-glx
[09:16] <Moosebuntu> brussel> can you repeat the question?
[09:16] <brussel> sure
[09:16] <Moosebuntu> or PM me
[09:16] <deepsa> which repository have 915resolution software?
[09:16] <stefg> !xinerama | htaccess
[09:16] <ubotu> htaccess: xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[09:16] <KubuntuUser_> Moosebuntu! lol while i was readding your post i was thinking the reasons but you have done everything i know off... is it +x for any user
[09:16] <blekos> thnx
[09:16] <itansh1> ipw2200 + ndiswrapper issue, error - [17234109.744000]  ndiswrapper (wrapper_init:136): ndiswrapper: initialization failed ... help?
[09:17] <linuxero_> Are you racist?
[09:17] <ikonia> no
[09:17] <htaccess> stefg thanks
[09:17] <brussel> i just want to cp -rf child1 child2 and child2 already has files in it so i want child1 to override the dupes
[09:17] <Moosebuntu> Kubuntuuser_> :(
[09:17] <sharms> is there a utility that comes with ubuntu to test harddrive integrity?  Like check for bad sectors etc
[09:17] <KubuntuUser_> linuxero_ what are you talking about?
[09:17] <mostly> hello, i have one little problem, ok, so, what is the name of that "window showing the progres" while gnome is loading, after the user is logged in gui login?
[09:17] <Moosebuntu> I'll have to post this to the forums then.
[09:17] <tuxub> this can be a real mess for newbie users... restarting and no gnome :(
[09:17] <stefg> sharms: either badblocks or smartmontools
[09:18] <n2diy> sharms: fsck?
[09:18] <croatoan> stefg: here's the link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1097/
[09:18] <sharms> stefg: excellent, thanks
[09:18] <itansh1> anyone know how to get ipw2200 and ndiswrapper to work? i tried to get the driver from it, it failed
[09:18] <linuxero_> Ah understand
[09:18] <Znortfl> Hello wine people, after installing patch 2.0.3 for World of Warcraft everything runs fine, untill I reboot and start WoW again - the system goes bananas: my X server crashes and I cannot do anything until I switch tty and get an X server running again. Is this typical or are there any known fixes for this issue?
[09:18] <KubuntuUser_> sharms nex time i suggest a google search its faster
[09:18] <pike_> brussel: it will thats what the -f is for..
[09:19] <sharms> KubuntuUser_: Sure show me the search query you used and the first 10 results where it listed the "badblocks" utility
[09:19] <KubuntuUser_> pike_ forces a command
[09:19] <linuxero_> If the Spanish you do not like podias to have said it before
[09:19] <KubuntuUser_> sharms dont get me wrong was a suggestion
[09:19] <stefg> croatoan: that actually looks good, the partitons are already made. But you'll run into a different kind of trouble... unbootable sysem, i'm afraid
[09:19] <brussel> pike_: it doesn't, it places a new directory in child2 called child1
[09:19] <ikonia> linuxero_: please be quiet
[09:19] <mostly> hello, i have one little problem, ok, so, what is the name of that "window showing the progres" while gnome is loading, after the user is logged in gui login?
[09:19] <croatoan> stefg: why is that? USB?
[09:19] <pyrohotdog> I really need help. Nvidia drivers are all fucked up. I can only run X with startx, GDM won't work.
[09:20] <brussel> pike_: and that's so backwards but it is what the man pages say it should do...
[09:20] <adaptr> brussel: if you want to copy the *files* in child1 to child2 then you must actually indicate the files: cp -a child1/* child2
[09:20] <ikonia> pyrohotdog: no need for language
[09:20] <pyrohotdog> Sorry.
[09:20] <stefg> croatoan: grub will bug out with error 21... can't see the partiton with it's menu.lst directly after boot
[09:20] <Maximilian1st> !multimedia
[09:20] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[09:20] <pike_> brussel: you dont want child2/child1? if you just want the subdirs and files of child1 then you need the cp -r child1/* child2/   asterisk
[09:20] <Maximilian1st> |multimedia
[09:21] <croatoan> stefg: what is the reason for this?  drive type or the fact that i'm using it via the USB to IDE cable?
[09:21] <brussel> ok, i'll use the *
[09:21] <stefg> croatoan: yes
[09:21] <brussel> and that worked like a charm
[09:21] <croatoan> stefg: are there any alternatives?
[09:21] <brussel> ty
[09:22] <pike_> brussel: np. its alot to learn but a great OS
[09:22] <Rasiote> hi
[09:22] <brussel> i just wish they'd have that little example in the man page
[09:22] <Rasiote> maybe somebody has ati radeon x1950pro
[09:22] <Rasiote> i can't find drivers
[09:22] <stefg> croatoan: either put your ubuntu side by side with win on /dev/hda/... or create a small (50 MB) /boot partition on /dev/hda, but keep / (root) on /dev/sda1
[09:22] <ikonia> !ati >rasiote
[09:23] <RawStupid> Enverex: it doesn't seem to tell me how to set it up though.
[09:23] <KubuntuUser_> Rasiote what for? actually drivers are the hardest part of a linux system
[09:23] <kane77> what is some program for lan communication??
[09:23] <kane77> (messages)
[09:23] <pike_> kane77: such as?
[09:23] <Rasiote> KubuntuUser_, kernel doesn't see my video card
[09:23] <Rasiote> !ati
[09:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:23] <juano> !ati | Rasiote:
[09:23] <ubotu> Rasiote:: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:23] <Enverex> RawStupid, Does lsmod show cx28xx or anything similiar loaded?
[09:24] <croatoan> stefg: ok so that would solve the boot issue(creating /boot part on /dev/hda) but what about installing ubuntu to sda?
[09:24] <KubuntuUser_> Resiote try searching for your device name
[09:24] <Jakko> Hi, does someone have a happy experience with wireless&centrino with edgy??
[09:24] <RawStupid> Enverex: yeah.
[09:24] <kane77> pike_, you know in windows I have trillian that has some lan messaging program... (you see all people on LAN that have trillian and you can message them..)
[09:24] <RawStupid> cx88xx                 62368  1 cx8800
[09:24] <RawStupid> And also...
[09:24] <pike_> kane77: if thats what you want id use gaim
[09:24] <RawStupid> cx8800                 32268  0
[09:25] <pike_> kane77: you could always echo "" > file to each other ;p
[09:25] <Enverex> RawStupid,  Then it should already be loaded, just run some TV app
[09:25] <stefg> croatoan:the partitons are already made, so you can just assign them to their use in the installer-menu
[09:25] <pike_> kane77: write is also a neat command to bug your friends
[09:25] <RawStupid> Enverex: what is an easy one to use?
[09:25] <iceman> Whats the command to change permission to a file
[09:25] <RawStupid> MythTV doesn't seem easy at all.
[09:26] <kane77> and what protocol to use with gaim... i want something that wouldnt be dependent on internet...
[09:26] <kane77> iceman, chmod
[09:26] <KubuntuUser_> iceman chmod
[09:26] <ikonia> RawStupid: apt-get mythtv
[09:26] <Enverex> RawStupid, It's not, heh, confused the hell out of me. Well my TV card isn't supported at all atm :( Erm, try TVTime
[09:26] <iceman> tks
[09:26] <KubuntuUser_> iceman use it wiselly
[09:26] <ikonia> or do you mean configured
[09:26] <iceman> KubuntuUser lol k thanks
[09:26] <croatoan> stefg: ok....by creating a boot part on hda, will i lose any data on my windows HDD?
[09:26] <Jakko> to change permission use chmod
[09:27] <pyrohotdog> Can someone please help....GDM = dead. Nvidia = dead.
[09:27] <RawStupid> ikonia: configured :P
[09:27] <stefg> croatoan: possibly yes... you'll have to resize you win-part, that's never without dangers
[09:27] <ikonia> RawStupid: no its not easy
[09:27] <RawStupid> well..set up too.. I never had any luck getting it going in ubuntu
[09:27] <ikonia> but it is simple if you read the docs and keep your mind focused
[09:27] <pike_> kane77: sorry not too familiar with im protocols
[09:27] <Jakko> Hi, does someone have a happy experience with wireless&centrino with edgy??
[09:27] <RawStupid> I'll go ahead and give it a shot
[09:28] <Rasiote> oki guys but i have tried fglrx drivers
[09:28] <Rasiote> and it doesn't works :/
[09:28] <RawStupid> so just apt-get install mythtv?
[09:28] <kane77> pike_, write works only for people logged onto the same machine?
[09:28] <pianoman> How do I get to Wine to work??? I continually get dependency errors...
[09:28] <Jowi> pyrohotdog, the first is probably connected to the second. "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and chose the "vesa" driver. that should give you at least a gdm login screen.
[09:28] <Enverex> RawStupid, Try TVTime first, MythTV is an entire MediaPC Shell replacement
[09:28] <ikonia> RawStupid: thats the base package - you can do more
[09:28] <Rasiote> maybe there is another way that kernel will see my video card ?
[09:29] <pianoman> if nothing else, I know xwine is already on here, and the program opens, but I don't know how to get it to run programs
[09:29] <KubuntuUser_> why i cant write to a NTFS partition?!
[09:29] <Rasiote> KubuntuUser_, cos u can't :)
[09:29] <pike_> kane77: yeah youd have to ssh to machine
[09:29] <stefg> !fuse | KubuntuUser_
[09:29] <ubotu> KubuntuUser_: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[09:29] <Rasiote> KubuntuUser_, possibility its to write only fat
[09:29] <pike_> kane77: check out jabber its what we use on our lan
[09:29] <Jakko> the default kernel driver doesn't support writing yet
[09:29] <mnoir> kane77: talk is the 'write' tween machines
[09:30] <kane77> pike_, yeah... SSH! that's what I want to try :D
[09:30] <stefg> KubuntuUser_: ntfs3g is waht yu're looking for
[09:30] <linuxero_> q hay de nuevo
[09:30] <KubuntuUser_> stefg thnks
[09:30] <kane77> pike_, I just connected my two machines so I'm trying things out :D
[09:30] <Slart> Does anyone know how to find out what device file my bluetooth connected telephone is associated with?
[09:30] <kane77> pike_, its fun
[09:30] <elyon225> Linux is locking up on me every single time a user logs out.  Goes to a white screen with everything frozen (even doing a Crtl-Alt-F2 doesn't work).  The system needs to be rebooted... could someone please help with this?
[09:30] <kane77> mnoir, thanx...
[09:30] <kane77> mnoir, thought that there was something like that...
[09:31] <mnoir> kane77: but talk is very primitive :)
[09:31] <stefg> elyon225: details?
[09:31] <croatoan> stefg: would my problems in GRUB be fixed if i just connected the secondary HDD with a normal IDE cable?
[09:31] <kanzie_> I had my new edgy freeze and after a hard reset it does not start X anymore... what can I do?
[09:31] <stefg> croatoan: i guess yes... having two or more disk isn't that uncommon
[09:31] <kane77> kanzie, try startx
[09:31] <itansh1> any ideas? me: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[09:31] <itansh1> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument
[09:32] <ikonia> kanzie_: check the xorg log
[09:32] <kanzie_> kane77: hehe, its not that it does not start, if crashes with reference to config-file and nvidia-drivers, that worked fine before the crash
[09:32] <KubuntuUser_> is there a way that linux could have damagged my windows partition?
[09:32] <croatoan> stefg: understood....now what about jumper config on the secondary HDD....if they were config'd incorrectly could that have something to do with my errors?
[09:32] <itansh1> edgy eft, ipw2200 wireless
[09:32] <pianoman> I did an update yesterday, and now I get errors that two files don't exist when I open the software-update program, or Synaptic
[09:32] <ikonia> KubuntuUser_: not really
[09:33] <kane77> kanzie, did you change xorg.conf?
[09:33] <KubuntuUser_> ikonia something else did then
[09:33] <kanzie_> kane77, nope, didnt touch a thing
[09:33] <kane77> kanzie, well that's... strange..
[09:34] <stefg> croatoan: uhhh, that's diffcult to tell without hands-on access, but of course jumpering is very important. Hint: don't use two HDD's on the same IDE-Channel. (hda/hdb) rather take connect the HDD'S as masters on each IDE-channel (hda/hdc)
[09:34] <kanzie_> kane77, could the filesystem become that corrupted because I reseted? Isnt ext3 suppsed to be journaled?
[09:34] <elyon225> stefg: What details do you need?  I have no idea why this started happening.  When any user logs out of X, the screen goes white and the computer locks up.  Has to be rebooted.
[09:34] <kane77> kanzie, ext3 is journaled...
[09:34] <ikonia> kanzie_: it can still get corrupt
[09:34] <natira> hi
[09:34] <croatoan> stefg: my mobo only has one IDE chan i think....
[09:35] <recon32> I need help making a dir for mythtv can anyone help me please
[09:35] <ikonia> recon32: whats the question
[09:35] <natira> what's open Ofice package name? so I can get rid of it?
[09:35] <n2diy> stefg: that is interesting, what is the logic behind it?
[09:35] <croatoan> stefg: wait....the second IDE chan would have the CD ROMS connect etc....right?
[09:35] <ikonia> dpkg -l | grep -i openoffice
[09:35] <ikonia> or use the gui to search for it
[09:35] <kanzie_> kane77, so any ideas of where to start to fix this?
[09:35] <KubuntuUser_> !openoffice
[09:35] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[09:35] <recon32> I am trying to install mythtv and I am at the point where i am compiling the program
[09:36] <BigMac> ikonia: Find anything?
[09:36] <stefg> croatoan: right... so take the CDroms as slaves (hdb/hdd) and the HDD's as mastr (hda/hdc)
[09:36] <kane77> kanzie, well I'd say reinstalling drivers, or reconfiguring your xorg.conf...
[09:36] <ikonia> nope
[09:36] <ikonia> loads of little bugs with ati
[09:36] <kane77> kanzie, (maybe both)
[09:36] <recon32> it say to do cd mythtv-0.20
[09:36] <ikonia> no certain ways to gix them
[09:36] <keir> hi, i have a core2, yet the ubuntu kernel doesn't list the 2nd processor (which is enabled in the bios). how do i enable my 2nd core?
[09:36] <mwe> natira: it's name is - surprise - openoffice.org ;)
[09:36] <ikonia> recon32: what guide are you reading
[09:36] <BigMac> isn't ati a pretty coomon gfx card
[09:36] <recon32> but my terminal says there is no file
[09:36] <natira> oops I started removing -base
[09:36] <croatoan> stefg: ok so i can use one of the slots on the IDE chain which my CD ROMs are connected to?
[09:36] <n2diy> keir: do you have the smp kernel?
[09:37] <keir> BigMac, sadly ati doesn't support free software well
[09:37] <recon32> wiki for ubuntu
[09:37] <keir> n2diy, no, but i don't see it listed in apt
[09:37] <stefg> elyon225:  http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html
[09:37] <keir> n2diy, apt-cache searching for linux 2.6.17 doesn't list it
[09:37] <ikonia> recon32: post me the link your reading from
[09:37] <n2diy> keir: fire up synaptic, and then search for kernel, it will list about a dozen of them.
[09:37] <ikonia> BigMac: yes it is, but its a pretty unsupported one too
[09:37] <recon32> how do I post it
[09:37] <stefg> croatoan: right.. but you have to rearrange your jumpers and everything... have a read about hardware-setup
[09:37] <ikonia> cut and paste it
[09:38] <recon32> I am new to this
[09:38] <KubuntuUser_> this is driving me crazy now not even windows boot!
[09:38] <kanzie_> kane77, how can I reconfigyure it
[09:38] <mwe> apt-cache search -n linux-image works as well
[09:38] <peter__> join /ubuntu
[09:38] <keir> n2diy, heh, except my nvidia drivers are broken at the moment because of module incompatibilities, so i thought i'd take the chance to upgrade to a smp kernel!
[09:38] <peter__> oops. Here already
[09:38] <^Ocean^> because if you did, you likly fsked the uid of the root user too a normal user,  in turn u fscked ur super user account
[09:38] <kanzie_> failed to load module "wfb"
[09:38] <peter__> Good evening form Spain
[09:38] <croatoan> stefg: cool...you have been most helpful! I will return shortly with the results....  :)
[09:38] <KubuntuUser_> !smb>KubuntuUser_
[09:38] <n2diy> keir: umm, ok, good luck.
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <kanzie_> The nvidia kernel module has the version 1.0-8776 but this modulke has the version 1.0-9746
[09:38] <elyon225> stefg: What is that site supposed to be suggesting to me?
[09:39] <Tajmox> what is the iptables command to allow a port for inbound service?
[09:39] <elyon225> stefg: I've asked for help on this many times, looked online for help, etc...
[09:39] <keir> n2diy, what is the SMP kernel name when you search? i don't see *any* smp kernels listed except for 2.4.24
[09:39] <recon32> here it is http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation
[09:39] <peter__> Is there anyone out there that has time to awnser a question about troubleshooting the nvidia drivers?
[09:40] <n2diy> keir: it should have smp somewhere in it's name. You only see one of them?
[09:40] <KubuntuUser_> !nvidia
[09:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:40] <stefg> elyon225: i did not mean to patronize you. The information you gave is just too vague to get an image of ther problem
[09:40] <ikonia> just ask the quesiton
[09:40] <KubuntuUser_> !nvidia>peter__
[09:40] <ikonia> recon32: don't use that guide - thats installing from source
[09:40] <peter__> !nvidia
[09:40] <kane77> kanzie_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg.conf
[09:40] <keir> n2diy, yes i only see one
[09:40] <KubuntuUser_> that too peter__, dont ask to ask just ask
[09:40] <elyon225> stefg: Well, I guess I don't know what else to tell you then.  I've described every aspect of the problem I'm having.  I'm new to Linux so I don't know how to track down whatever more information you need.
[09:40] <h3xis> !xfce
[09:40] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[09:40] <recon32> ikonia how do i install it then
[09:41] <FunnyMan3595> peter__: Ubotu won't repeat a message he recently said.
[09:41] <ghatak> which is better way ? Beryl or Compaz ?
[09:41] <adaptr> !beryl
[09:41] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[09:41] <n2diy> keir: have you edited your repo config file?
[09:41] <KubuntuUser_> elyon225 whats wrong?
[09:41] <kanzie_> kane77, package xorg.conf ig not installed and no info is availble
[09:41] <pyrohotdog1> Please. What do I do....
[09:41] <adaptr> !compiz
[09:41] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:41] <Jowi> keir, the later 686 kernels should all include smp. at least 2.6.15-27-686 do.
[09:41] <pyrohotdog1> I tried using vesa driver, nothing.
[09:41] <adaptr> there you have it - beryl does AIGLX :)
[09:41] <elyon225> KubuntuUser_: Every time a user logs out of gnome, my system completely locks up.  White screen, mouse frozen, keyboard shortcuts don't work... my system needs to be rebooted.
[09:42] <RawStupid> Sweet, I got it working in tvtime.
[09:42] <keir> Jowi, that's really weird, i wonder why it doesn't list the 2nd cpu then.
[09:42] <kanzie_> then it also starts printing buffer I/O error on devide sdf, logical block 0... etc, etc it comes at what seems random intervals and fills half the screen
[09:42] <stefg> elyon225: K/X/ubuntu? edgy? dapper?  x
[09:42] <RawStupid> All that sucks is the picture quality
[09:42] <peter__> so, having closely followed the instructions as given in the community pages, and having tries the "envy" python script, when I restart x at the end of the process, I am greeted by a blank screen. No bongos, no caps lock light on or off, and the only way I can find to restart it with the reset button. ANy bright ideas?
[09:42] <ghatak> adaptr: right that, i have already installed it and it works, i just wanted the opinion, which is better :)
[09:42] <kane77> kanzie_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:42] <elyon225> stefg: Its Ubuntu Edgy
[09:42] <KubuntuUser_> elyon225 im really sorry  i cant help you... i barely know anything of gnome
[09:43] <peter__> thats with edgy, by the way
[09:43] <ikonia> recon32: you need to read the docs on http://www.ubuntu.com to learn how to install software
[09:43] <KubuntuUser_> !apt-get>recon32
[09:43] <pyrohotdog1> I really don't want to reinstall. But I'm so freakin' stuck and frustrated.
[09:43] <Jowi> keir, which kernel did you chose? i'm on dapper and have the 2.6.15-27-686 kernel (there is no smp in the filename) and both my cores work perfectly fine. it is listed in the description of the file though (apt-cache show linux-image-2.6.15-27-686)
[09:44] <adaptr> ghatak: you mean you're complaining already ? go drool on your screen, man :)
[09:44] <ikonia> Jowi: I think edgy has an smp/non-smp version (386 is none smp 686 is)
[09:44] <recon32> I read apt-get and it can not find mythtv that I downloaded to my desktop
[09:44] <Jowi> ok ikonia, so they went back to how things were on breezy it seems...
[09:45] <ghatak> adaptr: who said i am complaining man, all i am saying that i like what i got, just asking if beryl is better than compaz
[09:45] <ikonia> Jowi: I'm not certain - but I think so
[09:45] <stefg> elyon225: please read the 'Don't ask does not work type of questions' section in the link i gave you.... my suspicion is that the resolution for gdm isn't set right. so if the user is logged in, the X resolution is set correctly for the *user*, but if he logs out, gdm takes control and tries to switch to a bad reslution which the video-card/monitor  can't deal with
[09:45] <ikonia> recon32: you don't download it to your desktop
[09:45] <keir> Jowi, it doesn't mention SMP in my apt-cache show of 2.6.17 on edgy
[09:45] <KubuntuUser_> stefg has it happened?
[09:46] <pike_> recon32: unless you really know what youre doing you dont usually find stuff and download to your computer to install you use the package manager. most apps are there
[09:46] <Jowi> ghatak, #ubuntu-xgl would probably give you alot of oppinions :) I never got compiz to work but Beryl+AIGLX was very easy.
[09:46] <kanzie_> kane77, should I use kernel frambuffer devicde interface?
[09:46] <ikonia> keir: does it say 386
[09:46] <peter__> stefg...That might be true for my problems too?
[09:46] <pike_> !mythtv
[09:46] <keir> ikonia, yes
[09:46] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[09:46] <ikonia> keir: swap it to 686
[09:46] <elyon225> stefg: It worked just fine until two days ago.
[09:46] <ikonia> elyon225: then its a hardware error
[09:46] <ikonia> if you have changed nothing
[09:46] <stefg> peter__: havn't read your problem... sorry
[09:46] <kane77> kanzie_, try it...
[09:46] <adaptr> ghatak: I'v enever used compiz - does compiz have emerald ? I didna think so...
[09:46] <ikonia> things don't stop working for no reason
[09:46] <ikonia> adaptr: nope
[09:46] <stefg> elyon225: there were updates in the last days
[09:46] <elyon225> ikonia: How would I track that down?  I've looked in /var/log/messages and didn't see anything unusual
[09:47] <ghatak> emerald is with beryl
[09:47] <keir> ikonia, there is no 686 image packages under edgy listed at all
[09:47] <ikonia> really ?
[09:47] <keir> ikonia, nope
[09:47] <ikonia> I'm sure there is.............
[09:47] <ikonia> hang on
[09:47] <QuaLjyn> i've just installed ubuntu 6.10 on my mother-in-laws old computer, with an old realtek8139 NIC, but strangely enough there seems to no working network. I can add an static IP allrigt, mii-tool says it's 100baseTx-FD, and link ok. Yet, i can't ping anything. It's straight out of the box. Any ideas? I have allready been trawling for this error, but couldn't find something that helped me :(
[09:48] <mnoir> !generic | keir
[09:48] <ubotu> keir: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[09:48] <pike_> !generic
[09:48] <ubotu> Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[09:48] <ikonia> QuaLjyn: what are you tyring to ping
[09:48] <mnoir> pike_: haha beat you...
[09:48] <Jowi> QuaLjyn, what is it connected to?
[09:48] <ikonia> and why use edgy - why not use lts
[09:48] <QuaLjyn> my server at home (i'm on a lan)
[09:48] <adaptr> ikonia: edgy only has "generic", which is supposed to work for everything i686 and K7
[09:48] <kanzie_> how can I reinstall my nvidia-drivers
[09:48] <QuaLjyn> to a 100mb switch, where the other machines are connected to too
[09:48] <kanzie_> from terminal
[09:49] <kanzie_> using apt-get
[09:49] <keir> pike_, i have no browser (x is broken), is the summary that i should install generic?
[09:49] <mnoir> ikonia: the ubuntu boss decided that it was not necessary to have all those kernels
[09:49] <ikonia> adaptr: rats, I thought there was a few packages
[09:49] <ikonia> fair enough
[09:49] <Jowi> QuaLjyn, check that you don't have a ip collision.
[09:49] <ikonia> arch of 386 is weak though
[09:49] <adaptr> ikonia: none, AFAIK - you're left to your own kernel builds with Edgy
[09:49] <pike_> keir: yeah they claim there is no real advantage to the specific compiled kernels
[09:49] <QuaLjyn> Jowi, i did, but i can't even get a dhcp address - and checked with lots of ip's :)
[09:49] <Mikey> i cant get my wifi card working with WPA network, (rt2500 cardbus)
[09:50] <Jowi> QuaLjyn, can you ping 127.0.0.1?
[09:50] <oreomajick> quick question for anyone here, does anyone here have experience using a motorola Q as a modem under linux?  i have it worked under windows and now i'm thinking about switching back to linux
[09:50] <ikonia> Mikey: we know - you've been at if for days
[09:50] <keir> what's the 'ubuntu way' to switch to the generic kernel?
[09:50] <ikonia> have you got the gui installed yet
[09:50] <ikonia> keir: your on it
[09:50] <QuaLjyn> Jowi, without a problem :) should have added that of course
[09:50] <mnoir> keir: installit
[09:50] <keir> mnoir, i have it
[09:51] <keir> oh DUH
[09:51] <keir> nevermind
[09:51] <keir> i just need to edit grub's default
[09:51] <mnoir> keir: then why are you askin how to switch to it ???
[09:51] <Mikey> ikonia: haha yes, but while i was here asking same q, i was fiddling with it all the time :)
[09:51] <ikonia> Mikey: have you got the gui running ?
[09:51] <Mikey> ikonia: yes i have :)
[09:51] <ikonia> according to the user last night, it shouldn't be a problem with the gui
[09:51] <kanzie_> I give up...
[09:52] <Mikey> ikonia: and i have it running witn no encrytpion, (open network)
[09:52] <Jowi> QuaLjyn, so your NIC is probably working at least. what is the ip/mask for the NIC and what are the ip ranges?
[09:52] <markeib> hello people!
[09:52] <kanzie_> nothing left but reinstall everything... this is so unlucky I seriously have to consider this whole linux-deal... if the screensaver is enough to kill the whole system...
[09:52] <markeib> i have the impression xine isn't working anymore
[09:52] <Mikey> ikonia: but now that ive changed back, i cant get it to connect (if i set everything like the HowTo it keeps connecting and disconnecting all the time)
[09:53] <QuaLjyn> jowi, i set the nic to 192.168.1.54, 255.255.255.0, 192.168.1.254 (my gateway), and tries to ping 192.168.1.10 (my server). My laptop, with 192.168.1.100 (and the rest of the settings equal) can ping 192.168.1.10
[09:53] <Jowi> QuaLjyn, can you ping the gateway?
[09:53] <pike_> kanzie_: try creating a new user and see if they have same issue
[09:53] <ikonia> shouldn't use the gateway
[09:53] <ikonia> its on the same network
[09:54] <markeib> amaroK kaffeine and totem crash on startup, does anybody know this problem?
[09:54] <|infinity|> dsldpconfig <-- not a kubuntu question, but has anybody heard abouth this deamon?
[09:54] <stefg> markeib: wrong w32codecs/libdvdcss package? that's what they all have in common..
[09:54] <ikonia> |infinity|: what is it
[09:54] <silfide> ay alguien abla castellano
[09:55] <RawStupid> hmm
[09:55] <silfide> jo vaya
[09:55] <RawStupid> no sound in tvtime
[09:55] <|infinity|> something from a config in a linux based router
[09:55] <stefg> es | silfide
[09:55] <silfide> si
[09:55] <|infinity|> its responsible for port forwarding and so on
[09:55] <markeib> stefg: but it worked before
[09:55] <RawStupid> wonder why there's no sound in tvtime
[09:55] <stefg> !es | silfide
[09:55] <ubotu> silfide: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:55] <markeib> mplayer still works...
[09:55] <|infinity|> and i search for a tutorial / documentation
[09:55] <clearzen> ok, so I just accidentally set sudo to have permissions 0755 and I've tried to change it back to 4111 but it gives me the following error: must be setuid  root. So I tryed su and got set gid operation not permitted. Any ideas?
[09:55] <bart_> hi
[09:55] <ikonia> |infinity|: ok
[09:55] <silfide> jo no puedo ablar con nadie
[09:56] <RawStupid> and I'm scared to instally MythTV
[09:56] <silfide> :(
[09:56] <RawStupid> because it's so confusing
[09:56] <ikonia> !es >silfide
[09:56] <RawStupid> I'll screw something up
[09:56] <RawStupid> I know nothing about mysql
[09:56] <Jowi> QuaLjyn, can you ping the gateway?
[09:56] <QuaLjyn> jowi, nope
[09:56] <RawStupid> etc.
[09:56] <Mikey> ikonia: can i give you some logs to read? my setup? output of ifup?
[09:56] <Jowi> QuaLjyn, here's what you need to do: take a cable connected to a machine that can ping and put it into the NIC on the PC that can't. that way we make sure that the port and cable you are using are ok.
[09:57] <silfide> jo no puedo ablar con nadie :(
[09:57] <Jowi> QuaLjyn, we make sure that the cable is ok and that the switch port is i mean. need to get rid of those question marks first.
[09:57] <ikonia> Mikey: no thanks
[09:57] <ikonia> !es >silfide
[09:57] <riotkittie> clearzen: reboot, enter recov mode?    or add single to your kernel line @ boot, and change it back?
[09:57] <QuaLjyn> jowi, actually that was what i did before i joined here. Then i changes the computer i'm on irc from, and switched to wireless. So the cable and port i working - this is what is so darn strange - it's like i'm just being ignored ;)
[09:58] <silfide> no entiendo nada
[09:58] <silfide> y no me kiero enfadar
[09:58] <ikonia> !es >silfide
[09:58] <Menasim1> how can i have priviliges on a root folder using sudo
[09:58] <Menasim1> ?
[09:58] <kanzie_> kane77, dude... I changed the line in xorg.conf that read "nvidia" to "nv" and then it started up at least
[09:58] <riotkittie> !es |silfide
[09:58] <ubotu> silfide: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:58] <Jowi> QuaLjyn, do you have software firewalls active on the PC's in the LAN?
[09:58] <QuaLjyn> nope
[09:58] <martalli> I have a minor emergency here - can someone help me with this: I installed a ubuntu on this machine with my account, then created a user account for one of the office staff.  I had the office staff's account loggin in automatically.  I switched to my account to add a printer, but no I can't get into her account
[09:59] <stefg> QuaLjyn: and ifconfig tells what?
[09:59] <kane77> kanzie, that's strange because it's recommended to change nv to nvidia...
[09:59] <martalli> when I switched back, it needs thepasswd, but I forgot it.  The users app in the admin menu is not changing the passwd
[09:59] <KubuntuUser_> silfide mejor vete a #ubuntu-0es porque de aqui nos corren
[09:59] <kanzie> kane77, so how do I just reinstall the drivers required so that I can change the line back to nvidia and go on working
[09:59] <KubuntuUser_> #ubuntu-es
[09:59] <gandalfcome> I have massive trouble with ati in dual monitor config. my mouse pointer is set of on screen 0. I use the propriatary drivers. please help
[09:59] <tim167> how do I grab and compress a DVD to a 600MB avi file ?
[09:59] <KubuntuUser_> !ro
[09:59] <ubotu> Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro
[09:59] <kanzie> kane77, yes I know, that is how I was running before, with proper drivers and beryl and all
[09:59] <QuaLjyn> stefg, if i set a static ip, it shows that, and otherwise it just shows the two nics (the one with link and the one that's just being there)
[10:00] <kane77> kanzie, oh.. you're runnig beryl!
[10:00] <keir> i have no web browser (only bitchx!) what repo do i need to add to sources.list to get newest nvidia driver (i.e. for beryl)
[10:00] <kane77> kanzie, cant help you on that... I dont use beryl... :(
[10:00] <croatoan> stefg: SUCCESS!!!!
[10:00] <stefg> QuaLjyn: hmmm... shifting interface names eth0 get eth1 and vice versa?
[10:00] <stefg> croatoan: bingo :-) !
[10:01] <croatoan> stefg: all I had to do was tell Linux not to mount the drive when inserted
[10:01] <croatoan> that's why it was saying it was read only
[10:01] <LaserLine> I can't create a vnc file under /etc/init.d/vnc even when I use sudo...how can I create a vnc file in there... do I really have to login using root?
[10:01] <QuaLjyn> stefg, actually i've been shuffling with my nics during the last few hours. As a part of my debugging attemts
[10:01] <Mikey> ikonia: lmfao i fixed !!!!!!!!! i fixed it by not doing anything !!!!!!!
[10:01] <Mikey> ikonia: oh you guys are great !!
[10:01] <tim167> what program does DVD-to-avi encoding + compressing ? thanks
[10:01] <QuaLjyn> stefg, cleaned up my /etc/network/interfaces so it only shows the one with link (eth1)
[10:02] <stefg> QuaLjyn: and /etc/resolv.conf contains a valid name-server?
[10:02] <QuaLjyn> no
[10:02] <swami> yes
[10:02] <QuaLjyn> stefg, has been keeping this on a straight ip based level so far
[10:02] <swami> the dns server ip si there
[10:03] <stefg> QuaLjyn: ok, i see... just went through the usual drill :-)
[10:03] <QuaLjyn> :)
[10:03] <croatoan> stefg: thank you SOOO much for your help !!!
[10:03] <croatoan> I'm off to explore LINUX!
[10:04] <tim167> something in the lines of 'flaskmpeg' but thats windoze only iirc ?
[10:04] <QuaLjyn> well, a friend of mine, who's a real debian lower, kinda gave up too - because everything is answering as if all is well - except there is no networking :|
[10:05] <euphoria> hi
[10:05] <stefg> QuaLjyn: hmm... firmware issues? does the card require some firmware uploaded at boottime?
[10:05] <kanzie> what is the latest stable nvidia-drivers to use with edgy?
[10:05] <euphoria> im have a little question
[10:06] <stefg> !ask
[10:06] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:06] <QuaLjyn> stefg, actually i wouldn't know - didn't notice anything appearing - but i'm not that accomplished either in the deeper arts of ubuntu/linux :S
[10:06] <euphoria> when im put "tar jxvf *.bz2" in the console im have a no file found error but if im make ls im see the file :(
[10:06] <KubuntuUser_> does anyone knows what to do if you get a " dba Drive not ready for command"
[10:06] <euphoria> ubotu ok :)
[10:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <Menasim1> how can i have priviliges on a root folder using sudo??
[10:07] <ikonia> euphoria: you can't do that with tar
[10:07] <euphoria> im try put "sudo tar jxvf *.bz2" and same
[10:07] <stefg> QuaLjyn: what does lspci think about your NIC's make and model?
[10:07] <KubuntuUser_> Menasim1 depends what you want to do
[10:07] <h3xis> euphoria, tar xjvf *.bz2 is what i use
[10:07] <tim167> DVD-rip tools on ubuntu anyone ? thanks!
[10:07] <ikonia> euphoria: I've just told you, you can't do that with tar
[10:07] <KubuntuUser_> explore it? try sudo nautilus if you are using gnome
[10:08] <cedric30> Hello, I have start thunderbird in root, sudo mozilla-thunderbird, now I have big problems with my accounts, it's does not see anymore my account, I have change the ower as cedric of all files in the directory  and the right of them , I have reinstall thunderbird create an other profil which point to the old directory
[10:08] <KubuntuUser_> Menasim1 sudo konqueror for KDE
[10:08] <Menasim1> KubuntuUser_ copy,change,delete files
[10:08] <cedric30> but I have ever this problem, no account
[10:08] <Enverex> cedric30, Don't use sudo
[10:08] <KubuntuUser_> try sudo nautilus or gksudo nautilus
[10:08] <euphoria> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1858774&postcount=163 im make this
[10:08] <KubuntuUser_> !gksudo
[10:08] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using "sudo <GUI-application>"
[10:08] <Enverex> cedric30, Using sudo is why it broke
[10:08] <Menasim1> KubuntuUser_ Gnome??
[10:08] <cedric30> but I have ever extension and theme
[10:08] <cedric30> ?
[10:08] <nn531> can anyone tell me how to build a collection in amarok using my external hard drive/
[10:08] <QuaLjyn> It believes (quite correctly) that i has my "01:0c.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 19)"
[10:09] <cedric30> Enverex: I know
[10:09] <cedric30> Enverex: but before no
[10:09] <KubuntuUser_> Menasim1 the enviroment
[10:09] <KubuntuUser_> Menasim1 you have ubuntu right?
[10:09] <Menasim1> KubuntuUser_ yes
[10:09] <ikonia> euphoria: there is no way you should be doing that proces
[10:09] <KubuntuUser_> Menasim1 try gksudo nautilus
[10:09] <ikonia> process
[10:09] <cedric30> Enverex: Do you thhink there is a solution ?
[10:09] <QuaLjyn> stefg: here goes with your name in front :) -- It believes (quite correctly) that i has my "01:0c.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 19)"
[10:10] <euphoria> 4ikonia ok thx
[10:10] <ikonia> cedric30: don't use sudo
[10:10] <cedric30> ikonia: it's a little bit to late ;)
[10:10] <Menasim1> KubuntuUser_ thanks
[10:10] <Menasim1> :)
[10:11] <sacater_> how do i disable grub, ( when i do a live install )
[10:11] <Enverex> cedric30, "sudo chown -R yourname:yourname /home/yourname/.mozilla-thunderbird"
[10:11] <djmccormick> how can i upgrade my vim to vim 7? from the command line
[10:11] <QuaLjyn> ikonia, why not just su - root? and why all this sodu/gksudo stuff? i'm probably missing a point :)
[10:11] <cedric30> Enverex: I have done this
[10:11] <ernz> Hello, can someone please tell me of a way I can play DVD's that are copied to my hard disk?
[10:11] <QuaLjyn> stefg, i made a typo btw - it's rev 10
[10:11] <ikonia> QuaLjyn: there is no reason for the average user to be root and be in a position to do system damage
[10:11] <n2diy> sacater_: choose the cdrom as the first boot device in bios.
[10:12] <ernz> I thought of mounting the directory as a DVD device, but I don't know how to do that
[10:12] <QuaLjyn> ikonia, agreed - but i just prefer to have a terminal in which i do root stuff, instead of prefixing every line with sodu :)
[10:12] <ikonia> QuaLjyn: then do that
[10:12] <ikonia> thats what I do
[10:12] <adaptr> ernz: that's... freaky, and also backwards - you could mount the dvd as a directory, though
[10:13] <cedric30> Enverex: but it doesn't work I think it's have broken the prefs.js
[10:13] <JosefK> QuaLjyn: feel free to 'sudo -i'
[10:13] <QuaLjyn> ikonia, :) it's just that there might be a reason, and wondered what it might be :)
[10:13] <jimmyselahone> Why does sudo break things and gksudo doesn't?
[10:13] <stefg> QuaLjyn: a quick google query resulted in a couple of hits which tell that it /should/ work... so it's on the HCL
[10:13] <QuaLjyn> HCL?
[10:13] <JvA> Hi! Is it possible to install Feisty desktop-cd in console-mode? The graphical installer crashes at around 70-75% when it tries to download/update the apt-get database from internet, or at least that's I think it's trying to do.
[10:13] <ernz> adaptr: How could I play the folder as a DVD?
[10:13] <Mikey> ikonia: i now may need some help installing fluxbox :)
[10:13] <adaptr> ernz: erm ? you've lost me there.. more freaky ?
[10:13] <stefg> QuaLjyn: HCL == Hardware Compatibility List
[10:13] <ikonia> Mikey: don't do it unless you really like fluxbox
[10:13] <QuaLjyn> stefg, ahh
[10:14] <Mikey> ikonia: cant i have both? gnome if all fails, fluxbox for me :)
[10:14] <ostekake> U can play DVD's with VLC media player
[10:14] <ikonia> I've used it and enjoyed it in the paste, but ubuntu is focused on gome
[10:14] <ihope> Sudo... that's fun.
[10:14] <ikonia> keep that in mind
[10:14] <djmccormick> any help installing this package please: http://pastie.caboo.se/32417
[10:14] <QuaLjyn> stefg, i've been trawling the forums before i joined here, and seeing a lot having problems back in 5.04 and a few in 6.06. And tried what they tried, but alas :|
[10:15] <ernz> adaptr: I have all the files of a DVD recorded from my camera as DVD format (VIDEO_TS/AUDIO_TS..IFO's..BUP's...etc...) in a directory, the disc is lost, I just want to play the folder as a DVD (Open DVD on Hard Disk)
[10:15] <ikonia> djmccormick: what ubuntu version
[10:15] <LaserLine> Is there a reason why I can't create files in /etc/init.d/ even when using root or sudo?
[10:15] <Jowi> QuaLjyn, sorry I have a baby that keeps waking up. I need to leave. if you have more than one NIC in the machine make sure you haven't mixed up the cables. if not, you might have a faulty NIC or driver. good luck
[10:15] <PaulPrice> Hi.  I'm attempting to install ubuntu on a new Dell Inspiron 1501, and am having trouble finding the hard drive.
[10:15] <Jowi> bye all
[10:15] <adaptr> ernz: have you tried VLC ? or do you mean complete with a menu etc. ?
[10:15] <gostview> hi all, is there any particular packages for install a server on ubuntu that have to share only files?
[10:15] <QuaLjyn> jowi, thanks for the help
[10:16] <gostview> * in a local aerea network ?
[10:16] <PaulPrice> ubuntu doesn't seem to recognise any scsi devices.
[10:16] <ernz> adaptr: Now u get it, yer, with menu's'n'all
[10:16] <stefg> QuaLjyn: so you are using edgy, right? Have you tried if a Dapper (6.06 LTS) Desktop-CD works with your card? Edgy is sometimes, errmmm, a bit bitchy
[10:16] <QuaLjyn> hahaha
[10:16] <QuaLjyn> good point
[10:16] <QuaLjyn> i should probably try that tomorrow
[10:16] <phr34ck> how can I filter an output ?
[10:16] <djmccormick> ikonia: 6.06 LTS
[10:16] <gostview> PaulPrice> so, maybe it could not recongnize RAID device?
[10:16] <ikonia> djmccormick: do an sudo apt-get update first
[10:16] <adaptr> ernz: you'll probably have to make an ISO of it first, with an authoring program
[10:16] <atarinox> can somebody recommend a good app for receiving podcasts on edgy?
[10:17] <PaulPrice> I don't think it's a RAID, but I know it's SATA.
[10:17] <QuaLjyn> stefg, i think i will go to bed, and tomorrow test the 6.06 lts. but thanks for the help - really appreciated :)
[10:17] <phr34ck> how can I filter an output ?
[10:17] <mike> What is the open discussion channel on this server?
[10:17] <djmccormick> ikonia: same
[10:17] <ernz> adaptr: That's overkill, there has to be an easier way
[10:17] <kane77> why cant i ssh into a machine??
[10:17] <djmccormick> ikonia: i installed the runtime for 7 then everything broke
[10:17] <gostview> ok, I have to try then...
[10:17] <djmccormick> how can i simply remove the vim packages currently installed and/or remove the runtime
[10:17] <adaptr> ernz: yes, VLC has full support for DVD menus, so have you tried it yet ?
[10:17] <ikonia> djmccormick: runtime for 7 ?
[10:17] <djmccormick> then start again
[10:17] <laz0r> phr34ck: what kind of output and how do you want to filter it?
[10:17] <djmccormick> i think so, ikonia. /me smacks self
[10:18] <ikonia> djmccormick: what do you mean the run time for 7 ?
[10:18] <kanzie> how can I disable the programs that is launched upon login?
[10:18] <gostview> hovewer need to install a specific package for install a file server?
[10:18] <djmccormick> ikonia: there is a package called vim-runtime, i installed that and it said it was vim7
[10:18] <n2diy> kane77: is your ssh port open?
[10:18] <djmccormick> but i have vim6 and am unsure if that's what broke it
[10:18] <phr34ck> laz0r,  for example: sudo apt-cache search firewall, I want it to display only packages with the name firewall, and not the discription
[10:18] <kane77> n2diy, how do I open it?
[10:18] <ernz> adaptr: VLC works luverly, thanks for your help! :)
[10:18] <ikonia> djmccormick: thats not in the 6.0.6 repo - have you changed the repos
[10:19] <ikonia> phr34ck: there is no such package
[10:19] <laz0r> phr34ck: try apt-cache search foo | grep firewall
[10:19] <n2diy> kane77: good question, did you ever install Firestarter?
[10:19] <djmccormick> i added universe and one other
[10:19] <phr34ck> ikonia, I was giving an example.
[10:19] <mike> What is the open discussion channel on this server?
[10:19] <ikonia> djmccormick: which was ?
[10:19] <phr34ck> grep is responsible for filtering ?
[10:19] <KubuntuUser_> i think is impossible to burn a cd with a live cd.... right? TT_TT
[10:19] <kane77> n2diy, i have it installed...
[10:19] <Zach> can someone help me
[10:19] <adaptr> phr34ck: well, not responsible as such, but it does a good job, yes
[10:19] <h3xis> Zach, with?
[10:20] <ernz> adaptr: I swear VLC would play a cheese slice if I put one in the DVD-ROM.....which I have never done...ever. ....
[10:20] <Zach> ubuntu
[10:20] <ikonia> djmccormick: I've just searched all the 6.0.6 repos and there is no vim 7 in there
[10:20] <stefg> !offtopic | mike
[10:20] <phr34ck> adaptr, kay, thanks.
[10:20] <h3xis> Zach, go figure.
[10:20] <laz0r> phr34ck: you can search for patterns in text with grep, and the output of apt-cache is text
[10:20] <ubotu> mike: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:20] <n2diy> kane77: take a look in there, you might beable to open the port that way.
[10:20] <mag_> Hey... do you know how to install ACL samba ?
[10:20] <djmccormick> ikonia: what directory are the repos in again
[10:20] <kritical> Does anyone know how I could find out what group a process is running as? I can't figure it out in `man ps` :S
[10:20] <KubuntuUser_> !livecd|carutsu
[10:20] <ubotu> carutsu: Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.
[10:20] <laz0r> phr34ck: and the pipe thing | between the to commands will act as, well, a pipe
[10:20] <ikonia> djmccormick: they are on line - not stored locally
[10:20] <djmccormick> ikonia: i mean the ones i have apt using
[10:21] <djmccormick> ikonia: the list of available ones
[10:21] <ernz> adaptr: Cheers, Im out
[10:21] <ikonia> djmccormick: /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:21] <Zach> I changed some setting that now everytime I use a programs open dialog box it shows the hidden files in my home directory but it doesn't do it in nautilis. I want to know how to turn it off
[10:21] <Dave_> hi, i have downloaded ubuntu and burnt the iso to a disk.  if i want to just run it from the disk to check it out, can i pop it in the disk drive and when it prompts to boot from disk say yes?
[10:21] <euphoria> im going, thx for the help :)
[10:21] <kane77> n2diy, while it wasn't allowed the second machine stalled... when I opened it it just said connection refused...
[10:21] <adaptr> ernbye
[10:21] <KubuntuUser_> Dave_ basically yes
[10:21] <djmccormick> i think i added deb http://www.freshnet.org/debian/ dapper/
[10:22] <stefg> !samba | mag_
[10:22] <ubotu> mag_: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:22] <Dave_> ok thanks
[10:22] <ikonia> djmccormick: why did you do that ?
[10:22] <n2diy> kane77, yep, same here, and I just looked through Firestarter, and didn't see anything there.
[10:22] <djmccormick> i forget, i think for the installation of something ruby or ruby on rails related
[10:23] <ikonia> you'll have to remove it then - and next time just say you added a stupid repo rathern than "universe and one other" and "I think I iadded this one too"
[10:23] <KubuntuUser_> have anyone used webmail for thunderbird? i can t make it work
[10:23] <mag_> ubotu: so what sistem should I to implement ?
[10:23] <kane77> n2diy, that's strange :/
[10:23] <PaulPrice> Why does the live CD not recognise my SATA HD?
[10:24] <MuffY> ikonia: is it allowed to ask about terminal commands in this channel >_>
[10:24] <astan> hey. trying to install flashplugin-nonfree, but getting "automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes".. i don't think it's network, so what could have happened upstream? anyone had this?
[10:24] <ikonia> PaulPrice: dodgy sata controller chip set
[10:24] <stefg> PaulPrice: because you have the 'wron' adapter
[10:24] <PaulPrice> ikonia: Any idea how I can make it work?
[10:24] <ikonia> MuffY: is it ubuntu support releated ? or just wanting to learn the shell
[10:24] <ikonia> PaulPrice: what chipset is it
[10:24] <MuffY> i don't think it's ubuntu only no
[10:24] <PaulPrice> ikonia: Can't tell you off the top of my head.
[10:24] <mag_> ubotu: but do you know hot can I install that ACL ?
[10:24] <ikonia> MuffY: then probably not
[10:24] <djmccormick> ikonia: what do i remove? says vim isn't there and says vim runtime isn't there. i try installing vim and it won't let me, even with that repo removed.
[10:24] <Zach> Can someone help me with this....I changed some setting that now everytime I use a programs open dialog box it shows the hidden files in my home directory but it doesn't do it in nautilis. I want to know how to turn it off
[10:24] <ikonia> PaulPrice: then I can't fix it - sorry
[10:25] <PaulPrice> ikonia: How would I find out?
[10:25] <MuffY> ikonia: you know a nice channel? =)
[10:25] <ikonia> muffy #bash
[10:25] <pike_> MuffY: might try ubuntu-offtopic
[10:25] <kane77> n2diy, to be sure the syntax is "ssh login:password@host" right?
[10:25] <MuffY> ikonia, pike_ , thank you
[10:25] <pike_> MuffY: a few of us in there
[10:25] <ikonia> djmccormick: thats because your repo's borked
[10:25] <mag_> ubotu:  my intention is to have a data server or file sever using ubuntu and all the machines wil has to use user and pass for many folders
[10:25] <djmccormick> ikonia: any tips on fixing this?
[10:25] <ikonia> djmccormick: remove vim from your ystem
[10:25] <ikonia> your system
[10:25] <stefg> !ubotu
[10:25] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:25] <ik-ppc> hi
[10:26] <ik-ppc> any freenode staff?
[10:26] <KubuntuUser_> ubotu is a bot made for answering smal questions
[10:26] <djmccormick> ikonia: it is saying it's already gone in apt. are you saying i need to do something manually?
[10:26] <ikonia> djmccormick: dpkg -l | grep vim
[10:26] <stefg> ik-ppc: rathr ask in #freenode :-)
[10:26] <n2diy> kane77: here I've been using ssh -l user ip address, but that isn't working so don't go by that. I'm checking my secruity book, now, I had ssh working a year ago.
[10:26] <ik-ppc> stefg is no one there..
[10:26] <stefg> ik-ppc: so is here ...
[10:27] <ik-ppc> :S
[10:27] <djmccormick> thanks ikonia, i got it now
[10:27] <manerito> hmm
[10:27] <phr34ck> How can I remove COMPUTER icon from the desktop ?
[10:27] <hotti> any ideas how to get ipod nano auto mounting? in ubuntu?
[10:27] <Mikey> ikonia: do you think you have time to help me install fluxbox paralell with gnome?
[10:27] <stefg> phr34ck: gconf-editor
[10:28] <ikonia> Mikey: no, I'd advise you not to do it because ubuntu is centered around gnome
[10:28] <Slart> phr34ck: there is a settings somewhere.. not sure if it's gnome or nautilus
[10:28] <Slart> phr34ck: I'll have a look.. see if I can find it somewhere
[10:28] <Mikey> ikonia: ok, it not really that important, i just wanted them cool CPU and RAM stats =)
[10:28] <ikonia> Slart: its a gconf only I think
[10:28] <mollick2> anyone no if installign from a cd-rw might cause it not to install right
[10:28] <ikonia> Mikey: thats just gtkrelm
[10:29] <mollick2> anyone?
[10:29] <phr34ck> Slart, I think it's gconf-editor .. I have to look somewhere in it
[10:29] <stefg> mollick2: there's a CD integrity check as boot-option from the CD... if that's passed, the medium is alright, be it CD-R or RW
[10:29] <mollick2> k
[10:29] <Slart> phr34ck: mm.. I think so too.. I've seen it before.. and used it on my own box.. there is a setting each for my computer, home drive, network trashcan etc
[10:29] <Zach> can someone help me with this problem?...I think I changed some setting that now everytime I use a programs open dialog box it shows the hidden files in my home directory but it doesn't do it in nautilis. I want to know how to turn it off
[10:29] <fokuslee> help I am trying to change the owner of a folder inside /media how do i do daT?
[10:30] <mollick2> well for some reason it keeps freezing half way through the install
[10:30] <phr34ck> Slart, isn't it the same as regedit in windows ?
[10:30] <WZ__> anyone know why cut/paste doesnt seem to work when connecting to remote desktop server on ubuntu from vnc client on windows?
[10:30] <stefg> fokuslee: read about pmount first
[10:30] <Slart> phr34ck: something like that.. yes
[10:30] <stefg> !pmount
[10:30] <ikonia> phr34ck: no
[10:30] <ubotu> pmount: mount removable devices as normal user. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.13-1build1 (edgy), package size 39 kB, installed size 588 kB
[10:31] <phr34ck> ikonia, how come? It saves all the preferences of your system, applications.
[10:31] <Slart> phr34ck: apps/nautilus/desktop
[10:31] <ikonia> thats not a registry
[10:31] <Slart> phr34ck: in gconf-editor
[10:31] <mollick2> for some reason it keeps freezing half way though the install
[10:31] <fokuslee> stefg the folder is not a removable device
[10:31] <phr34ck> Slart, thanks.
[10:31] <kazuka> hi
[10:31] <Slart> phr34ck: you're welcome
[10:31] <kazuka> hey guys
[10:31] <stefg> fokuslee: then 'man chown'
[10:31] <kazuka> I am gonna become your owner
[10:31] <kazuka> lol
[10:31] <Zach> I FEEL IGNORED!!!! can someone help me with this problem?...I think I changed some setting that now everytime I use a programs open dialog box it shows the hidden files in my home directory but it doesn't do it in nautilis. I want to know how to turn it off
[10:31] <n2diy> kane77: it is a bigger job then I remembered, we have to generate puplic/private keys on both boxes, and ship them back and forth.
[10:32] <fokuslee> stefg yeash chown operation denied
[10:32] <fokuslee> i did it as root
[10:32] <phr34ck> Okay that's odd.
[10:32] <stefg> Zach: please do your homework yourself
[10:32] <Slart> Zach: can't you just right click in the dialog box ?
[10:32] <Sharcho> I'm upgrading from 6.06. When I do 'apt-get install ubuntu-minimal' it wants to remove sysvinit. Is that okay?
[10:32] <ikonia> n2diy: ssh keys - dead easy
[10:32] <phr34ck> The computer_icon_visible is not checked ...
[10:32] <Zach> no
[10:32] <ikonia> whats yup
[10:32] <deepsa> yo
[10:32] <mollick2> wat could cause it to freeze up half way through install, it past the integrity test
[10:32] <Zach> actually that worked
[10:32] <Zach> thanks slart
[10:32] <w1re|e55> hi all.
[10:32] <Zach> I feel stupid
[10:32] <deepsa> hi
[10:32] <Slart> Zach: you're welcome
[10:33] <n2diy> ikonia: ok, lets go, you have an active audience, kane77 is watching too, I hope.
[10:33] <Seb> what's the codename of the next ubuntu release ?
[10:33] <ikonia> n2diy: what do you want to do
[10:33] <Seb> i wanna use it in my sources.list
[10:33] <deepsa> seb fiesty
[10:33] <Slart> phr34ck: perhaps there are more places.. you can search for keys, in the menus.. search for computer and check the "search in key names"-tingy
[10:33] <ikonia> Seb: don't be silly
[10:33] <deepsa> lol
[10:33] <phr34ck> Slart, yeah will do.
[10:33] <Seb> ikonia: like unstable for debian, you know
[10:33] <kane77> ikonia, n2diy watching too
[10:33] <n2diy> ikonia: I want this box to ssh to the other box on my network.
[10:33] <ikonia> Seb:  nothing like it
[10:33] <w1re|e55> can anyone help me? i have question about ide drive sleeping.
[10:33] <Slart> phr34ck: or it might just be that you have to restart gnome.. I don't know
[10:34] <ikonia> n2diy: and you want to use key pair auth
[10:34] <Slart> phr34ck: might want to try that first
[10:34] <Seb> ikonia: so in which branch is development occuring ?
[10:34] <phr34ck> Slart, try what? restart gnome?
[10:34] <ikonia> seb go for it......
[10:34] <Slart> phr34ck: yes.
[10:34] <ikonia> do what you want
[10:34] <phr34ck> hehe, how do I do that ?
[10:34] <Slart> phr34ck: eh... nope.. mine reacts immediately
[10:34] <freakynl> hey there, is there something similar like packages.ubuntu.com for unstable/testing?
[10:34] <ikonia> n2diy: is that correct you want to use ssh key auth between to 2 boxes ?
[10:34] <n2diy> ikonia: kane77 I'm not picky at this point, though I'm concerned port 22 isn't accepting connections.
[10:35] <Seb> ikonia: you're not answering my question. What is the dev branch of ubuntu called ?
[10:35] <ikonia> Seb: its fesity - but using it is not advsied
[10:35] <ikonia> n2diy: is ssh server running ?
[10:35] <stefg> freakynl: wrong channel... unstable / testing is on #debian (which moved to oftc anyway...) :-)
[10:35] <Seb> ikonia: see that wasn't so tough
[10:35] <Slart> phr34ck: well.. either you press ctrl-alt+F1 to get to a shell.. log in and type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart, or you press ctrl+alt+backspace... I think the first method is considered nicer =)
[10:36] <n2diy> ikonia: kane77 hmmm, I don't even know if it is installed?
[10:36] <ikonia> n2diy: not a good start
[10:36] <fokuslee> stefg:  any ideas?
[10:36] <n2diy> ikonia: been one of those days.
[10:36] <RoyRoyers> hello
[10:36] <kane77> ikonia, n2diy okay I have a feeling it's because I dont have server :D silly me
[10:36] <stefg> fokuslee: sudo chown ....
[10:37] <freakynl> stefg: hmm i thought ubuntu is using a same system but has it's own packages
[10:37] <fokuslee> stefg:  yes i did dat returns Operation denied
[10:37] <RoyRoyers> can anybody helpme with my display video?
[10:37] <ikonia> n2diy: I hear you
[10:37] <stefg> !fixres  RoyRoyers
[10:37] <stefg> !fixres  | RoyRoyers
[10:37] <ubotu> RoyRoyers: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:37] <Slart> phr34ck: seriously, nothing happens when you check and uncheck boxes in /apps/nautilus/desktop/ ?
[10:37] <fokuslee> fokuslee@fokuslee-ubuntu:/media$ sudo chown fokuslee:fokuslee /media/sda3
[10:37] <fokuslee> chown: changing ownership of `/media/sda3': Operation not permitted
[10:37] <RoyRoyers> te screen resotution it doent want to get at 1280_1024
[10:37] <n2diy> ikonia: kane77 I'm opening up synaptic now, to see whats what.
[10:38] <mollick2> ok, why woudl the installation screen of ubunto have everything in gray
[10:38] <kane77> n2diy, ikonia is it openssh-server?
[10:38] <ikonia> yeah
[10:38] <RoyRoyers> but i did obuntu
[10:38] <mollick2> anyone?
[10:38] <stefg> !uboto | RoyRoyers
[10:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uboto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:39] <Slart> mollick2: I have no idea.. mine wasn't grey
[10:39] <RoyRoyers> look my xorg.conf http://www.ubuntu-es.org/index.php?q=node/33909
[10:39] <stefg> !ubotu | RoyRoyers
[10:39] <ubotu> RoyRoyers: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:39] <kane77> ikonia, n2diy, it works...
[10:39] <kane77> :D
[10:39] <ikonia> welkl done
[10:39] <Slart> mollick2: neither was it gray =)
[10:39] <ikonia> well
[10:39] <mollick2> the screen when i first start it up and has the menu is in color but the cd test and installation are in gray
[10:39] <kazuka> ANY ONE USING POWERPC?
[10:39] <ikonia> kazuka: no need for caps
[10:39] <kane77> ikonia, thanx for your help...
[10:40] <ikonia> kane77: no problem
[10:40] <Slart> mollick2: oh.. those I don't remember... might have been in color, might not
[10:40] <n2diy> kane77, ikonia kane must have a screaming system there, I haven't even started my DL yet!
[10:40] <ikonia> ha ha ha
[10:40] <kane77> :D
[10:40] <stefg> mollick2: the vendoe of yur video-adapter didn't read the VESA-specs too carefully... try with vga=normal
[10:41] <kane77> what is a simple funny game I wouldn't want to live without??
[10:41] <lale> hey all
[10:41] <kane77> hey lale
[10:41] <lale> I'm testing feisty on a laptop
[10:41] <lale> rox
[10:41] <stefg> kane77: tetris ? :-)
[10:41] <lale> :)
[10:41] <mollick2> well i cant change the specs as i have no OS installed
[10:41] <n2diy> ikonia, kane77 so only one box needs the server installed right?
[10:41] <lale> I want to install compiz
[10:41] <CarlFK> is there a vmware-server package ?
[10:41] <Slart> kane77: aisleriot =)
[10:41] <lale> I have the fglrx drivers running
[10:41] <mollick2> i just finished building it yesterday
[10:41] <ikonia> n2diy: only the one getting incoming connections needs a server
[10:41] <ikonia> lale: we don't need a commentry
[10:41] <lale> how can I get it?
[10:41] <kane77> stefg, I have the gnome-games... something apart from that...
[10:42] <Slart> kane77: or Tremulous...
[10:42] <ikonia> lale: if your running a dev platform you should know how to search for oftware
[10:42] <stefg> !games | kane77
[10:42] <n2diy> ikonia: ok, it is setting up now.
[10:42] <ikonia> software
[10:42] <ikonia> n2diy: good man
[10:42] <ubotu> kane77: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[10:42] <lale> ikonia: sure, I'd just like to know if there's an howto somewhere for ATI+compiz on feisty
[10:43] <lale> ikonia: just that
[10:43] <ikonia> lale: no - as its a dev platform
[10:43] <ikonia> users are expected to know
[10:43] <Slart> oh... and AstroMenace.. for the quicktop down shooter before you go to work.. raptor like
[10:43] <lale> ikonia: ok
[10:43] <kane77> n2diy, well only on the box you need to connect TO...
[10:43] <freakynl> Slart: damn been in the dos age? raptor was ages ago :D
[10:43] <Joel_melapaa> problem: if I'm trying to install packages from install/add program, i get message that program is not available for amd64 system
[10:44] <Slart> freakynl: yes.. I loved raptor.. played it so much =)
[10:44] <n2diy> kane77:  ok, still waiting for it to setup.
[10:44] <jim87410> Upgraded to Edgy using Alt CD. Now php prompts to save the file... have uninstalled apache2 & php & reinstalled to no avail.  Any thoughts?
[10:44] <ikonia> Joel_melapaa: ok - that package is not available
[10:44] <freakynl> Slart: me2
[10:44] <Slart> freakynl: tried Astro Menace? it's kind of similar.. free as in beer
[10:44] <kane77> n2diy, it reminds me of a friend that has gentoo... it's always compiling from source and that takes ages...
[10:45] <ikonia> kane77: gentoo people don't actually know what they are doing as a rule of thumb - they think its cool
[10:45] <ikonia> (not all of them)
[10:45] <n2diy> kane77: roger that, I'm ready to go now, so give me a couple minutes to see how it goes.
[10:45] <freakynl> Slart: no, haven't had much time for games in the last couple of years but will look into it :D
[10:45] <phr34ck> Slart, I almost had a heart attack ;p
[10:46] <fokuslee> sorri my ubuntu crashed o.O  was asking this before
[10:46] <gandalfcome> does anyone use ati in multimonitor setup? I need help with mouse offset
[10:46] <Slart> phr34ck: oh? what happened? pressed ctrl+alt+f1 and couldn't come back? ;)
[10:46] <fokuslee> how do u chown if operation is not premitted
[10:46] <phr34ck> Slart,  yes ;(
[10:46] <phr34ck> I was soo lonely and affraid.
[10:46] <kane77> ikonia, well I dont think its cool to install it 2 days until you have cli... and compiling kde for 2 days...
[10:46] <phr34ck> I forgot what the command was ...
[10:46] <Slart> phr34ck: hehe.. and then you tried every single one of the keys and found the ctrl+alt+f7 combo? =)
[10:47] <Slart> phr34ck: or you restarted gdm?
[10:47] <kane77> n2diy, should go smoothly.. only connect from the other machine
[10:47] <stefg> fokuslee: if an operation is not permitted as /root/ i'll check dmesg for filesystem panic messages
[10:47] <ikonia> kane77: thats his machine nothing more
[10:47] <ikonia> they think it makes it go faster
[10:47] <phr34ck> I forced the lappy to shutdown .... I don't know what I pressed, it was scrolling in something
[10:47] <phr34ck> It was like all chinese !
[10:47] <Slart> phr34ck: sorry bout that.. I should have warned you.. but we agreed you didn't have to restart gnome
[10:47] <kane77> ikonia, and is made exactly for his architecture...
[10:48] <ikonia> kane77: most software is built for 686
[10:48] <ikonia> so whats the point
[10:48] <phr34ck> Slart, what was the command again? The one that brings that application
[10:48] <stefg> !generic | kane77
[10:48] <ubotu> kane77: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[10:48] <kane77> you know the slight differences, x64, smp and stuff...
[10:48] <Slart> phr34ck: ctrl+alt+f1 - f6 gives you different consoles, ctrl+alt+f7 brings you back to X
[10:48] <fokuslee> stefg so dmesg | grep "system panic"
[10:48] <phr34ck> ahh, I see.
[10:49] <kane77> stefg, I use generic...
[10:49] <ikonia> kane77: x86 is totallt different from x86
[10:49] <ikonia> x86_64 srry
[10:49] <stefg> fokuslee: dmesg | grep panic
[10:49] <ikonia> kane77: thats what stupid people say
[10:49] <phr34ck> Slart, how do I know all these stuff? Where are they located, I mean is there a manual or something ?
[10:49] <Slart> phr34ck: I still dont understand why they don't just echo that when you go to the console the first time.. in LARGE letters =)
[10:49] <mixman> its possible to get drivers for ATI RADEON X1950 ?
[10:49] <Slart> phr34ck: I did the same you did.. and I pressed all the different buttons =)
[10:49] <ikonia> kane77: the difference in building software for a different x86 arch is minimual
[10:50] <phr34ck> Slart, I created unimaginable combinations ... trust me.
[10:50] <__OG_> hi all
[10:50] <Slart> phr34ck: hehe..
[10:50] <stefg> !hi
[10:50] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:50] <gandalfcome> I have massive trouble with ati in dual monitor config. my mouse pointer is set of on screen 0. I use the propriatary drivers. please help
[10:50] <ikonia> gandalfcome: someone else had this problem yesterday, its a driver glitch
[10:50] <fokuslee> stefg i did chown the dmesg i got nothing
[10:50] <phr34ck> Lets get back to the "root" of my problem. How to remove this idiotic computer icon from the desktop ?
[10:51] <Slart> phr34ck: editing those keys didn't work?
[10:51] <phr34ck> Slart, the icon is showed yet in that application, it's not checked.
[10:51] <Slart> phr34ck: they do for me.. when I uncheck the network box my network icon disappears..
[10:51] <stefg> fokuslee: ermmm... no chown, just 'dmesg | grep panic'
[10:51] <phr34ck> so something is wrong.
[10:51] <fokuslee> fokuslee@fokuslee-ubuntu:~$ sudo chown -R fokuslee:fokuslee /media/sda3
[10:51] <fokuslee> Password:
[10:51] <fokuslee> chown: changing ownership of `/media/sda3': Operation not permitted
[10:51] <fokuslee> fokuslee@fokuslee-ubuntu:~$ dmesg | grep panic
[10:51] <fokuslee> fokuslee@fokuslee-ubuntu:~$
[10:51] <fokuslee> i meant like dat
[10:51] <phr34ck> Slart, give me the command to launch the command again, I'll try it one more time
[10:51] <n2diy> ikonia: kane77 no joy, connection timed out, I'm trying again.
[10:51] <Slart> phr34ck: hmm... that's odd.... gconf-editor /apps/nautilus/desktop/
[10:52] <ikonia> n2diy: on the server box - please do "ps -ef  | grep ssh"
[10:52] <kane77> n2diy, do you have port 22 open?
[10:52] <stefg> fokuslee: ok, so no panics in your dmesg
[10:52] <swx> anyone has the experience of installing ubuntu from scratch in a Colinux VM?
[10:52] <phr34ck> ewh
[10:52] <n2diy> kane77:  I don't know, ikonia, stand by.
[10:52] <ikonia> ok
[10:52] <phr34ck> I forgot to press Apply
[10:52] <fokuslee> stefg: yep
[10:52] <stefg> swx: have a look at andLinux
[10:53] <kane77> kane77, have you run the server?
[10:53] <Slart> phr34ck: apply? you have an apply button? what version are you running?
[10:53] <kane77> n2diy, sorry you don't have to
[10:53] <phr34ck> there is no apply .. I unchecked the box
[10:53] <fokuslee> stefg do u know how to log in as the real root?
[10:53] <phr34ck> the icon is still there
[10:53] <Slart> phr34ck: ah.. phew.. don't scare me
[10:53] <phr34ck> damn you, Microsoft like icons *slaps*
[10:53] <stefg> !root | fokuslee
[10:53] <ubotu> fokuslee: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:54] <phr34ck> it doesn't matter if I'm using a theme, yes?
[10:54] <Slart> phr34ck: wonder if I changed anything else..
[10:54] <Slart> phr34ck: I have no idea..
[10:54] <fokuslee> stefg yeah u know i actually tried with sudo -i too still no luck
[10:54] <Slart> phr34ck: it might
[10:54] <phr34ck> umm, lemme try
[10:55] <fokuslee> this is pissing me off bitorando won't use that partiton b/c itz owned by root not by me
 Is is native emulation?
[10:55] <fokuslee> but i umasked=000
[10:55] <n2diy> ! pastebin
[10:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:55] <jackyyll> how do i shut x down and still be in run level 3 ?
[10:55] <magic_ninja> fokuslee: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[10:55] <magic_ninja> fokuslee: then change ro to wrx
[10:55] <kane77> what time is it?
[10:56] <magic_ninja> fokuslee: on the particular line of that partition
[10:56] <jim87410> Is there another channel that would be more appropriate to ask about apache2/php problems?
[10:56] <phr34ck> themes does not affect it.
[10:56] <phr34ck> perhaps I'm missing something.
[10:56] <phr34ck> Maybe it's more then that.
[10:56] <jackyyll> how do you shut down x and use run level 3?
[10:56] <Slart> phr34ck: hmm.. something else then...
[10:56] <kcinna> hey all
[10:56] <stefg> swx: andLinux is a subset of ubuntu edgy, but with teh coLinux -Kernel. My message is: Save the effort, someone did it before and published his work
[10:56] <fokuslee> magic-ninja i didn't mount it readonly i mounted it unmask=000 which is wrx for all
[10:56] <Slart> phr34ck: what theme are you using?
[10:56] <kane77> jim87410, try #apache
[10:56] <jim87410> thanks kane77
[10:56] <kane77> jim87410, or #php
[10:57] <kcinna> im having trouble getting ubuntu my connection to allow NAT for filesharing. it's enabled in my router, is there anything else that might be preventing this?
[10:57] <phr34ck> I was using ClearLooks, now back to Human
[10:57] <kane77> jim87410, what irc client are you using?
 wow... you are saving me a lot of work.. and what is the version taht is insclude with andlinux?
 of ubuntu
[10:57] <kane77> jim87410, in xchat you can get a list of  channels...
[10:57] <jackyyll> can someone help me? I need to shut down X and still be in run level 3 so i can install the Nvidia drivers
[10:58] <Slart> phr34ck: I'm using a custom there.. clearlooks controls, human icons
[10:58] <n2diy> kane77: ikonia ok, here is the pastebin. It is my first one too, and I rolled snake eyes alll the way across!  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1111/
[10:58] <stefg> swx: http://wiki.gp2x.org/wiki/AndLinux
[10:58] <kcinna> !nat
[10:58] <phr34ck> human icons++, I like.
[10:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:58] <swx> ok thx :P
[10:58] <Slart> jackyyll: I don't know about runlevel 3.. but you could always do a /etc/init.d gdm stop from a console
[10:58] <yukio> guys Edgy is absolutely stunning!
[10:58] <kcinna> it was working until i started the torrent
[10:58] <ikonia> yukio: why ?
[10:58] <ammiel> hi can anyone who knows a lot about X tell me what $DISPLAY holds?
[10:58] <fokuslee> well thx anyways im gonna try the forum i will keep u updated
[10:58] <jackyyll> Slart: i tried that and it never came up with a prompt for me to type with
[10:58] <ikonia> n2diy: reading
[10:59] <PirateHead> Ubuntu just randomly cut access to my USB mouse.
[10:59] <yukio> ikonia: i mean Beryl :F
[10:59] <PirateHead> It stopped being powered and it does't recognize it anymore.
[10:59] <PirateHead> How do I re-enable USB?
[10:59] <Aggort> Can anyone help me with Compiz?
[10:59] <stefg> !xgl | Aggort
[10:59] <ubotu> Aggort: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:59] <Slart> jackyyll: hmm.. try pressing ctrl+alt+f1, then log in, type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop   if you want back you'll have to do /etc/init.d/gdm start and log back in
[10:59] <ikonia> n2diy: ssh should be listening then
[11:00] <Slart> jackyyll: pressing ctrl+alt+f7 will get you back from that first console
[11:00] <jackyyll> ok
[11:00] <n2diy> ikonia: this is the command I used at the client: ssh -l darryl 192.168.1.2
[11:01] <ikonia> and its not reasonponding
[11:01] <PirateHead> How do I reconfigure my USB ports?
[11:01] <phr34ck> Slart, something is wrong here. It's not changing anything.
[11:01] <PirateHead> They suddenly cut power and don't recognize anything.
[11:01] <ikonia> PirateHead: what do you mean reconfigure
[11:01] <n2diy> ikonia: times out.
[11:01] <phr34ck> I check/uncheck everything, and it's not like doing nothing.
[11:01] <PirateHead> ikonia: I mean my USB mouse suddenly went dark and (obv) stopped working.
[11:02] <Slart> phr34ck: you are running gnome, right?
[11:02] <phr34ck> yes
[11:02] <Slart> phr34ck: just checking =)
[11:02] <PirateHead> ikonia: so I wonder if there's a script that I can run to re-initialize the USB system or something
[11:02] <ikonia> n2diy: and you have no firewall or iptables on your network
[11:02] <ikonia> can you ping that ip address
[11:02] <stefg> PirateHead: could you be in hardware trouble? there's no 'configuring USB-ports' except the right kernel modules, which is something that ubuntu does automagically
[11:02] <ikonia> PirateHead: usb detects on plugin
[11:02] <MikeStupid> so how well does MythTV work?
[11:02] <n2diy> ikonia: yes Firestarter is setup on the server.
[11:03] <PirateHead> ikonia, stefg: my mouse worked 1 minute ago, now it doesn't.
[11:03] <ikonia> thats thats doing it hen
[11:03] <ikonia> then
[11:03] <PirateHead> does hardware trouble tend to come on like that?
[11:03] <Stormx2> Okay. This may sound like an extremely odd request, but I need to burn a CD so that it will not open under a windows XP system. I don't mind what happens in any other system.
[11:03] <phr34ck> What the .....
[11:03] <phr34ck> Slart, it workes if I don't use sudo ;p
[11:03] <ikonia> n2diy: your firewall needs to allow port 22
[11:03] <Aggort> this is what I am confused about
[11:03] <Aggort> aggort@aggort-desktop:~$ compiz --replace gconf
[11:03] <Aggort> compiz.real: No composite extension
[11:03] <MikeStupid> like I said earlier, I got TVTime working but with no sound and bad picture quality
[11:03] <selah> MikeStupid: pretty well in ubuntu from what I've heard on the linuxactionshow podcast
[11:03] <stefg> PirateHead: pull out and plugin back again... prolly your connectors are worn out
[11:03] <phr34ck> Slart, woohoo ... it works baby, IT WORKS !
[11:03] <matju> anyone got a P4VM800 (Asrock) motherboard running with Ubuntu ?
[11:03] <MikeStupid> will MythTV be the same way?
[11:03] <n2diy> ikonia: roger, looking now.
[11:04] <MikeStupid> I don't think I could watch TV without sound
[11:04] <ikonia> matju: thats apretty specific request, why not just ask the question
[11:04] <Aggort> Aggort: aggort@aggort-desktop:~$ compiz --replace gconf
[11:04] <Aggort> Aggort: compiz.real: No composite extension                                                I don't understand why i get this
[11:04] <ikonia> Aggort: you JUST said that
[11:04] <ikonia> show some respect to the other channel users
[11:05] <Aggort> ikonia: Didn't realize I did sorry
[11:05] <ikonia> yes you did
[11:05] <ikonia> you knew you'd just typed that
[11:05] <Aggort> no  I didn't
[11:05] <ikonia> "ok"
[11:06] <matju> ikonia: the question is whether anyone has got it to work, that's it. i want to know whether it's safe to buy that motherboard.
[11:06] <Aggort> My question still remains valid
[11:06] <ikonia> matju: check the hardware compatability list
[11:06] <mnoir> !patience | Aggort
[11:06] <ikonia> !hcl >matju
[11:06] <ubotu> Aggort: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:06] <stefg> anyway please note that compiz/xgl is alpha and *not* supported in here but in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:06] <Aggort> I said it was an accident
[11:07] <n2diy> ikonia: I stopped the firewall, and got in. Now, how to open port 22?
[11:07] <Aggort> thank you stefg
[11:07] <ikonia> n2diy: well done
[11:07] <stefg> !firestarter | n2diy
[11:07] <ubotu> n2diy: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[11:08] <matju> ikonia: but just because the motherboard is not listed on the wiki, doesn't mean that it wouldn't work, right?
[11:08] <ikonia> matju: don't look for the motherboard, check the chipsets
[11:08] <n2diy> ikonia: roger roger, tnx.
[11:09] <jackson3246> how do I change the version of GCC I use to compile something?
[11:09] <ikonia> jackson3246: if you don't know - you shouldn't be compiling
[11:09] <matju> ikonia: i don't see a category for chipsets on that wiki page
[11:09] <stefg> jackson3246: install the right compiler and suod update-alternatives
[11:10] <jackson3246> stefg: thanks
[11:10] <stefg> *sudo update-alternatives
[11:10] <ikonia> matju: check the chipsets against linuxcompatible.com then
[11:11] <n2diy> ikonia: setup a couple of rules, restarted the firewall, logged out and I'm back in again! Sweet.
[11:12] <ikonia> n2diy: well done
[11:12] <n2diy> ikonia: nada, and the same to you.
[11:12] <ikonia> your welcome
[11:13] <Slart> phr34ck: woops.. I kind of killed my computer.. dangerous stuff that gconf =)
[11:13] <grayscale> has anyone here experienced the problem with Quanta Plus where the entire program just freezes up after installation?  The packs and all load fine from apt-get but after the window renders and I go to type in the text editing area, the moment I strike any key, it freezes.
[11:15] <Hazuki> Does anyone know how to get the ipw2200 driver working on Edgy? I've got a friend with one of those and he's nagging me and I'm used to Gentoo, not Ubuntu x_x
[11:15] <stefg> !wifi
[11:15] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:15] <h3xis> Hazuki, ipw2200 works out of the box
[11:16] <nicolavs> !webcam
[11:16] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[11:16] <Hazuki> I don't know what he did wrong then
[11:16] <Hazuki> he's not the most clueful user out there apparently
[11:16] <stefg> :-)
[11:16] <||thunder> Q to ALL: I got an update for my restricted modules yesterday. Now my gnome session is al fuxx0red. Has anyone else experienced this ? Or is it just me ?
[11:18] <Hazuki> what's bug #1?
[11:18] <stefg> !bug #1
[11:18] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[11:18] <M_Fatih> hi everybody
[11:18] <CarlFK> sudo apt-get remove vmware-player - "touch: creating `/usr/share/icons/hicolor': No such file or directory"  resulting in "not removed"  anyone know the trick?
[11:18] <mvfeinstein> Can anyone here tell me how I can set up the media keys on my (logitech S 510) keyboard?
[11:19] <M_Fatih> i have a problem with compiling vmware vmon module, there is a compile error.. i can't understand : http://phpfi.com/192566
[11:19] <stefg> Hazuki: check Launchpad for that bug as well... very critical
[11:19] <phr34ck> Slart, how so?
[11:19] <||thunder> mvfeinstein; in gnome, system/prefs/kb shortcuts
[11:19] <Drunken_Canuck> anyone have their music sound staticy on xmms?
[11:20] <Malachi> I have a problem. I need to install a package (libcamel1.2-dev),  but if I do, it will remove mozilla-dev, which I need for democracy
[11:20] <kohr_> hey is there a good package that i can use to manage my icons better? like having different icons on each desktop? is there a bumptop equivilent for linux?
[11:20] <Malachi> What should I do?
[11:20] <njal_> my uni has now authorized the use of vista so now i have to install it over XP without trashing grub, how do i do this?
[11:20] <Slart> phr34ck: well.. I don't know what I did.. but it froze my computer.. I could move the mouse and nothing more.. but anyways.. your icons are still there?
[11:20] <guiller> any speak portuguese i need help....
[11:20] <gnufied> is there any to get around of "lGdk-WARNING **:locale not supported by Xlib" ?
[11:20] <phr34ck> Slart, of course not =)
[11:20] <stefg> !pt | guill
[11:20] <ubotu> guill: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[11:21] <stefg> !pt | guiller
[11:21] <ubotu> guiller: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[11:21] <guiller> tankz
[11:21] <guiller> :D
[11:21] <phr34ck> me likes me desktop.
[11:21] <ikonia> gnufied: where do you get that ?
[11:21] <Slart> phr34ck: what did you do? sacrifice a goat or something?
[11:21] <mwe> gnufied: what locale are you using?
[11:21] <gnufied> ikonia, whenever any gtk app starts
[11:21] <phr34ck> Slart, all I did is that I removed sudo from the command .... how weird is that?
[11:21] <ammiel> Drunken_Canuck: if it sounds staticy check your EQ, and make sure you blast your speakers and dont put up the xmms volume all the way
[11:21] <gnufied> mwe, en_US UTF-8 UTF-8 set using localeconf
[11:22] <Slart> phr34ck: ah.. so no running gconf-editor as root then.. *writes down*
[11:22] <phr34ck> instead of sudo gconf-edior, I used gconf-editor.
[11:22] <ikonia> gnufied do you have a $LC_LOCAL varible
[11:22] <gnufied> although my location is India
[11:22] <ammiel> Drunken_Canuck of course it could be your speakers if you turned it up loud enough ;)
[11:22] <gnufied> ikonia, i don't think so
[11:22] <Ixan> hey, I'm having some problems with my sky2 network interface. It's loaded according to dmesg, but ifconfig eth0 up reports no such device. using feisty and 2.6.20-5. Anyone have a tip? please reply in message
[11:22] <phr34ck> Slart, that costs money you know !
[11:22] <ikonia> ok
[11:22] <Borzen> If i resize my curent partition will i have to reformat
[11:22] <phr34ck> lets sign a patent agreement =)
[11:22] <stefg> !feisty | Ixan
[11:22] <ubotu> Ixan: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[11:22] <gnufied> ikonia, i had that option when i did dpkg-reconfigure localeconf, but wasn't sure what to choose
[11:22] <ikonia> Ixan: feisty is not support
[11:22] <Slart> phr34ck: hehe.. I thought you were distributed under gpl.. =)
[11:22] <mwe> gnufied: the locale command confirms that? cause I got that once until I set a proper locale
[11:23] <Ixan> very well
[11:23] <mvfeinstein> Hello, I am having a rather weird problem and I am hoping someone in here can help me. I am running Ubuntu 6.10 with beryl installed and when I have multiple windows open my screen will randomley blink I can't really tell what is displayed when this happens but I think it is the desktop.
[11:23] <gnufied> mwe, so any pointers on setting proper locale?
[11:23] <phr34ck> Slart, that's the way it looks. That's nothing but a camoflage for the MS inside of me .
[11:23] <matju> ikonia: thank you
[11:23] <stefg> !xgl | mvfeinstein
[11:23] <ubotu> mvfeinstein: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:23] <Drunken_Canuck> nah cuz the music plays fine in windows
[11:23] <ikonia> mvfeinstein: what do you think it is
[11:23] <Borzen> if i resize a partition to fit ubuntu on it do i have to reformat?
[11:23] <kohr_> is there anything like BumpTop for linux?
[11:23] <Drunken_Canuck> but turnin the xmms volume down and the speaker volume up seemed to work
[11:23] <ikonia> kohr_: what the heck does bumptop do ?
[11:24] <phr34ck> heck, I've been using MS windows for like 13 years or so ...
[11:24] <Slart> phr34ck: hehe.. the lure of mammon is strong... =)
[11:24] <grayscale> has anyone here experienced the problem with Quanta Plus where the entire program just freezes up after installation?  The packs and all load fine from apt-get but after the window renders and I go to type in the text editing area, the moment I strike any key, it freezes.
[11:24] <ikonia> grayscale: no sorry
[11:24] <Slart> phr34ck: well. me too.. I just switched about a month agi
[11:24] <matju> ikonia: i found linuxcompatible.com hard to use, but i found what i wanted on linux-tested.com
[11:24] <Slart> phr34ck: ago
[11:24] <grayscale> damn :(
[11:24] <matju> ikonia: so, thanks for the chipset idea
[11:24] <ikonia> matju: well done
[11:24] <kohr_> ikonia, it was on slashdot a while ago, it allowed you to move files like you would on a desk, put them in piles, group them etx
[11:24] <ikonia> matju: thats all it comes down to - chipset
[11:24] <phr34ck> I've been using Ubuntu for 10 days now.
[11:24] <mnoir> grayscale: have you tried renaming your config dir?
[11:24] <phr34ck> First Linux experience.
[11:24] <ammiel> Drunken_Canuck yeah i usually have to do that, you could try going to the preferences, and change it to use software mixer so xmms doesnt adjust the whole system volume, then just turn the system volume down in alsamixer, that should work too
[11:25] <Borzen> Do i have to reformat when i resize my XP partition to fit ubuntu?
[11:25] <grayscale> mnoir, for Quanta you mean?
[11:25] <ikonia> Borzen: no
[11:25] <Borzen> Ok
[11:25] <Borzen> Thanks
[11:25] <mnoir> grayscale: yes
[11:25] <mvfeinstein> ikonia I have no idea what is causing it I installed beryl right awaya so I am not sure if it is that or something else
[11:25] <Drunken_Canuck> i was thinkin if i switched it to play mono instead of stereo that would help but i couldnt figure that out
[11:25] <grayscale> no
[11:25] <stefg> Borzen: the Live CD wil /try/ to shrink your XP-paertiton without compromisuing its content, but it's alway good practice to have a backup
[11:26] <mvfeinstein> stefg I don't think I am using compiz or xgl
[11:26] <mnoir> grayscale: worth a try - quanta is pretty good and reliable (i use it) but every once in a while....
[11:26] <ammiel> Drunken_Canuck idk how to do that either
[11:26] <Malachi> I have a problem. I need to install a package (libcamel1.2-dev),  but if I do, it will remove mozilla-dev, which I need for democracy. What should I do?
[11:26] <mwe> gnufied: well first tell me the output of 'locale' in a terminal. use pastebin
[11:26] <stefg> mvfeinstein: your quote : d problem and I am hoping someone in here can help me. I am running Ubuntu 6.10 with beryl installed
[11:26] <Drunken_Canuck> ammiel, i dont think it can be done lol
[11:26] <Drunken_Canuck> and amarok wont work for some reason
[11:26] <htaccess> hi, how can i stop my keyboard beeping when i hit backspace?
[11:26] <phr34ck> Slart, do you know how to update Gnome?
[11:27] <kane77> Malachi, you have to decide :(
[11:27] <phr34ck> I have 2.14 and 2.16 is out ... or something like that.
[11:27] <ammiel> Drunken_Canuck probably not without a plugin
[11:27] <jewbilee> What can I do to speed up Ubuntu booting up, it seems as though it takes a while
[11:27] <grayscale> where can i find the dir and what should i rename it to?
[11:27] <mnoir> grayscale: ~/.kde/share/config/quantarc
[11:27] <kane77> phr34ck, you use dapper??
[11:27] <gnufied> mwe, http://pastie.caboo.se/32435
[11:27] <Slart> phr34ck: update? it doesn't update via apt/synaptic?
[11:27] <phr34ck> kane77, yes.
[11:27] <mnoir> just rename it like quantarcB or some such
[11:27] <Drunken_Canuck> ammiel, i looked in synaptic and couldnt find anything that said it would do that
[11:27] <grayscale> mnoir, ok, ill reinstall it and see what happens. <crosses fingers?
[11:27] <phr34ck> Slart, I always do update and upgrade but it never got updated, I don't know why.
[11:28] <Slart> phr34ck: oh.. I think they will update it when it's been tested etc..
[11:28] <mnoir> grayscale: reinstall??
[11:28] <Malachi> kane77: Really....it's quite a predicament. I need evolution and mozilla-dev
[11:28] <gnufied> mwe, hmm looks like dpkg-reconfigure didn't work as i expected
[11:28] <selah> jewbilee: turn off unnecessary services
[11:28] <phr34ck> Slart, ahh ok.
[11:28] <kane77> phr34ck, youre out of luck then... you'll have to wait until its backported...
[11:28] <mvfeinstein> stefg does beryl or Ubuntu mean I have XGL and Compiz? Because I thought beryl and compix where different and I didn't set up xgl on my system because someone said I did not need it sense I was running the radeon driver
[11:28] <kohr_> ikonia, do you know of anything like what i described? or just a better way to manage icons?
[11:28] <ikonia> kohr_: no
[11:28] <phr34ck> kane77, why? does it include drugs?
[11:28] <mnoir> grayscale: there is a very good email support group for quanta as well
[11:28] <Slart> phr34ck: it's takes a while for everything to get accepted into the repos.. firefox updates also come some time after it's been released
[11:28] <grayscale> mnoir, I removed the program yesterday and tried using cssed instead
[11:28] <mnoir> grayscale: i recommend you join it!
[11:28] <phr34ck> kane77, who's responsible for the repository? I mean, can anyone put applications in there?
[11:28] <mnoir> oic
[11:28] <grayscale> can i find it off of their sourceforge page?
[11:28] <phr34ck> Slart, they don't have firefox 2.0 available.
[11:29] <pike_> jewbilee: look in /etc/init.d/  then to remove soemthing from startup: sudo update-rc.d -f script remove    you can of course still sudo /etc/init.d/scriptname start    manually
[11:29] <stefg> mvfeinstein: to make a confusing story short: you are runing xgl/aiglx , which isn't supported, only #ubuntu-xgl deals with that
[11:29] <kane77> phr34ck, dunno... I also want 2.16... and I dont want to upgrade to edgy...
[11:29] <Slart> phr34ck: eh.. I'm running firefox 2..it was installed at install for me
[11:29] <mvfeinstein> stefg, got it thank you
[11:29] <mnoir> grayscale: when i don't use vi, i use quanta.  but i am pretty much in kde
[11:29] <phr34ck> Slart, what?
[11:29] <ikonia> kane77: 2.16 gnome you mean ?
[11:29] <grayscale> oooh ok
[11:29] <kane77> ikonia, yes
[11:29] <phr34ck> I'm dying to install FireFox 2.0.
[11:29] <ikonia> kane77: you need to put presure on for backports
[11:29] <mnoir> grayscale: i only had to erase my rc file once
[11:29] <ikonia> phr34ck: why ?
[11:29] <Slart> phr34ck: yup.. running 2.0.0.1 or something like that..
[11:30] <kane77> ikonia, how?
[11:30] <jzaun> !update
[11:30] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[11:30] <grayscale> i know people who are running it in gnome np, but for some reason it bonks on me
[11:30] <ikonia> kane77: log bugs on launchpad
[11:30] <mnoir> hmm
[11:30] <grayscale> and i melted google looking for a solution
[11:30] <mnoir> that support group is worth a look as well
[11:30] <Enverex> Does qemu come with kqemu on Ubuntu?
[11:30] <CarlFK> isnt' there a kernel-headers package that gets the one for your current kernel?
[11:30] <phr34ck> ikonia, I used to use the close tab "x" A LOT.
[11:30] <phr34ck> I can't do that with 1.5.0.9
[11:30] <kane77> ikonia, under gnome or under dapper?
[11:30] <ikonia> phr34ck: you can
[11:30] <mnoir> grayscale: for quantaplus, google will not be alot of help :)
[11:31] <phr34ck> ikonia, how ?
[11:31] <jeffery> I started with server version, did an encrypted root setup, and an running 386.  But I get alot of errors about Failed to find suitable ramdisk generation tool for kernel version.  Any ideas?  I am locked out, cause nvividia will not install now.
[11:31] <grayscale> i really should learn how to use vi :o for my sanity's sake
[11:31] <ikonia> phr34ck: just no (x)
[11:31] <ikonia> phr34ck: just right click on it
[11:31] <phr34ck> ikonia, hehe I know that ... that's the idea of x on each tab ;p
[11:31] <msikma> Hi everybody, can anyone tell me where I can download the original 4.04 Ubuntu release?
[11:31] <kane77> grayscale, i never realy learened :D
[11:31] <jeffery> I did an update, and now it seems screwed.
[11:31] <phr34ck> so I don't have to right click on each tab "I get to have a lot of tabs"
[11:31] <mnoir> grayscale: do be careful - quantaplus IS NOT quanta - there was a divorce as far as i can tell
[11:31] <CarlFK> linux-headers-686
[11:31] <phixnay> hey does anybody know how to use the international keyboard layout to get european accents?
[11:32] <jeffery> CarlFK, Is that for me, linus headers 686?
[11:32] <grayscale> right right
[11:32] <mnoir> grayscale: that is to say, a non-amicable parting of the team
[11:32] <jzaun> I know I'm new to Ubuntu and all, but I cant seem to figure out how to install applications... The Add/Remove Applications program doesn't list gcc for example.. AcidRip is listed but says it can't be installed on i386(?) so I'm a little lost as to how to get my computer useable
[11:32] <grayscale> a friend of mine has been trying to sway me to do my web development in linux
[11:32] <gnufied> mwe, so what shall i do to set that locale information straight?
[11:32] <msikma> Hmm, this link seems to be broken: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/warty/warty-release-install-i386.iso
[11:32] <CarlFK> jeffery: only if yo need it :).  iw was the answer to my Q to keep anyone else from looking
[11:32] <grayscale> and mentioned Quanta Plus as a nice alternative
[11:33] <grayscale> I was using Bluefish for awhile, but I like how with Quanta you can collapse the code
[11:33] <mnoir> !install | jzaun
[11:33] <ubotu> jzaun: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[11:33] <phixnay> jzaun: go to system>administration>synaptec
[11:33] <grayscale> mnoir, so should I trash the quantarc file?
[11:33] <mwe> gnufied: first find out if it is already
[11:33] <Joel_melapaa> system/properties/keyboard
[11:33] <poisons> /poisons
[11:33] <jeffery> Anyone see this error before,: Failed to find suitable ramdisk generation tool for kernel version.
[11:33] <mnoir> jzaun: sorry - that link is worthless....
[11:33] <phixnay> that 's the package manager, and it lets you install stuff
[11:33] <kane77> i feel a little neglected it terms of packages... lot of stuff isnt available for x64, and lot of new stuff isnt backported to dapper... will the situation with x64 get better??
[11:33] <Stormx2> Okay. This may sound like an extremely odd request, but I need to burn a CD so that it will not open under a windows XP system. I don't mind what happens in any other system.
[11:33] <CarlFK> jeffery: are you trying to build your own kernel?
[11:33] <ikonia> kane77: yes it will
[11:33] <ikonia> and it is doing
[11:34] <CarlFK> Stormx2: cut it in half :)
[11:34] <mnoir> !synaptic | jzaun
[11:34] <ubotu> jzaun: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[11:34] <marlun> Whats the default place that *-doc packages get installed? and is there an application to view them or do I have to open them manually in firefox for example?
[11:34] <CarlFK> then it wont open in any system
[11:34] <ammiel> can someone refresh my memory, was the linux kernel just updated in synaptic
[11:34] <jzaun> phixnay, why the two ways to install software?
[11:34] <mwe> gnufied: if you paste the output of locale I'll help. you export the variables to the correct value
[11:34] <mnoir> marlun: /usr/share/doc for many
[11:34] <Drunken_Canuck> is there any reason why when i download what is supposed to be a dvd iso it just shows the video ts folder and i have to extract it piece by piece?
[11:34] <phixnay> I have never used the add/remove function. I dont know why it is there
[11:34] <jeffery> CarlFK, Yes I had to when I went to encruypted root, which ran fine, but on updates complained.  I guess todays ypdates yupdated the XORG, and now I cannot install nvidia kernel
[11:34] <Slart> Stormx2: I think that will be hard... but it's a interesting goal =)
[11:35] <Stormx2> CarlFK: Bleh, in a non-obvious way
[11:35] <marlun> mnoir, ok, thanks, do you usually open them manually?
[11:35] <jzaun> ok.. I'll remember not to use it in the future too :-)
[11:35] <Stormx2> I'm meant to be handing in coursework on a CD on friday. I need to hand it in on monday ;)
[11:35] <mwe> gnufied: you can use export LC_ALL=whatever to set all LC_* vars at the same time
[11:35] <phixnay> lol ok. synaptic should have everything you need
[11:35] <Stormx2> Hence I need to give in a "bad" cd on friday
[11:35] <mnoir> mar - i run a lamp server so they are all available thru browser
[11:35] <Slart> Stormx2: couldn't you burn a truecrypt container.. that will open.. but it will just look like a big file
[11:35] <Stormx2> and claim it was an error...
[11:35] <ikonia> jeffery: why are you building your own kernel
[11:35] <CarlFK> Stormx2: I bet you could burn an ext3 fs instead of iso9660
[11:35] <ikonia> it will break any kernel dependencies
[11:35] <selah> And don't forget Universe and Multivers in Synaptic. :)
[11:35] <grayscale> mnoir, I think deleting the old quantarc file fixed it
[11:35] <ammiel> was there a kernel update on synaptic since yesterday?
[11:35] <jzaun> my other question is how do I get from 6.10 to 7.04 (the development version) ?
[11:36] <phixnay> yeah those are important
[11:36] <Stormx2> Slart: Maybe.
[11:36] <Slart> Stormx2: oh.. I would try overburning... and some weird directory structure
[11:36] <mnoir> marlun: - i run a lamp server so they are all available thru browser
[11:36] <funkja> Anyone: what is your favorite ide for C programing?
[11:36] <jeffery> ikonia, well actually I am not sure I did.  I had to build a init ramdisk I guess.  I am really confused to be honest over how these images worked.
[11:36] <manerito> qoho ;] 
[11:36] <Slart> Stormx2: overburning usually produces coasters for me anyway =)
[11:36] <Stormx2> overburning?
[11:36] <Stormx2> How would I do that?
[11:36] <ikonia> jeffery: show me the output of uname -a
[11:36] <mnoir> grayscale: it may come back - ru gnomecentric or kdecentric?
[11:36] <Stormx2> I use aol cds for that ;)
[11:37] <grayscale> gnomecentric
[11:37] <Slart> Stormx2: enable overburn somehow.. it's available in most burning software
[11:37] <mnoir> grayscale: there could be an installation related bug - watch it and report if so :)
[11:37] <grayscale> since it was the default desktop environment for ubuntu, i just left it as is when i first installed it
[11:37] <grayscale> will do
[11:37] <jeffery> ikonia 2.6.17-10-386 i696 GNU/LINUX.  Now I started with server right, but when I encrypted I went to 386.
[11:38] <Slart> Stormx2: or you could try creating a big random iso file.. and burn that image.. don't know if there are checks the try to validate those
[11:38] <grayscale> can i find that support group on their page @ sourceforge or is it elsewhere?
[11:38] <ikonia> jeffery: thats fine - thats an ubuntu kernel
[11:38] <jeffery> ikonia, But it seems like both are installed, and it cannot find mkinitramfs, but it is installed.
[11:38] <mnoir> grayscale: btw, quanta+ is very extensible - it uses some very fancy componentry from kde
[11:38] <Stormx2> Slart: I'd imagine their would be...
[11:38] <Stormx2> there*
[11:38] <grayscale> ack... spoke too soon
[11:38] <stefg> !initramfstools
[11:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about initramfstools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:38] <grayscale> just went belly up again
[11:38] <jeffery> Ikonia:  I get a Failed to find suitable ramdisk generation tool for kernel version on every update or when I install comesthing.
[11:39] <Slart> Stormx2: or rather.. take your average windows game cue file.. replace the bin file with random data.. burn that.. or convert it to an iso using bchunk .. burn that
[11:39] <stefg> !initramfs
[11:39] <Stormx2> Anyone? I need to create a coaster out a cd. A cd which is clearly burnt, but will not open under windows.
[11:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about initramfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:39] <Menasim1> what is a good torrent program??
[11:39] <Stormx2> Slart: Yeah could do that...
[11:39] <mnoir> grayscale: hmm
[11:39] <Hazuki> Menasim1, Azureus is good but bloated
[11:39] <Stormx2> Menasim1: Azureus
[11:39] <pike_> Stormx2: microwave
[11:39] <stefg> !torrent | Menasim1
[11:39] <ubotu> Menasim1: Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[11:39] <Stormx2> Bloated?
[11:39] <Stormx2> pike_, heh
[11:39] <grayscale> should i install the other packages it asks for when i first start it?
[11:39] <IntuitiveNipple> What might suddenly stop Firefox and Evolution displaying images correctly?
[11:40] <mnoir> grayscale: such as?
[11:40] <IntuitiveNipple> It's almost like there's a netfilter removing images from the network
[11:40] <stefg> IntuitiveNipple: a succesful attack to an old imagemagick version, for instance
[11:41] <jeffery> ikonia, Now here is the confusing part, when I do a apt-get install nvidia-glx, it gives a dependency problem, linux-restricted-modules is nto installed.
[11:41] <ammiel> was the ubuntu kernel updated recently? like yesterday?
[11:41] <stefg> yup
[11:41] <IntuitiveNipple> stefg: how would that affect the clients viewing images though? Everything is up-to-date here on Edgy
[11:41] <Eroick> can the alterative install CD do a full X install?
[11:41] <ammiel> stefg was that yup to me?
[11:41] <jeffery> That must be what buggered my system, that update.
[11:42] <Xinu1> hey, i'm installing ubuntu. how much swap space should I use?
[11:42] <stefg> IntuitiveNipple: tht wasn't meant too serious... just itching the paranoia :-)
[11:42] <phixnay> hi I can't hear audio in flash apps, what's wrong?
[11:42] <IntuitiveNipple> Grrrrrrrr!
[11:42] <ikonia> jeffery: have you installed linux-restricted-modules
[11:42] <Stormx2> Eroick: Yep.
[11:42] <Stormx2> !flash | stefg
[11:42] <ubotu> stefg: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:42] <jeffery> ikonia, I will try again.
[11:42] <mnoir> grayscale: (again) such as?
[11:42] <IntuitiveNipple> I installed squid earlier, but I haven't configured it as a transparent proxy and there's no unusual netfilter (iptables) rules
[11:42] <Eroick> Stormx2: great, thanks. I prefer the nice texty install :)
[11:42] <stefg> Stormx2: thanks, my flash wrks fine...
[11:42] <CarlFK> installing vmware-server:  "kernel headers (version 2.6.17-10) does not match your running kernel (version 2.6.17-10-386). "  um... help?
[11:43] <Stormx2> Eroick: Me too heh :)
[11:43] <Stormx2> Blah.
[11:43] <phixnay> that link didn work
[11:43] <Stormx2> That was meant for phixnay
[11:43] <IntuitiveNipple> Weird: GIFs are okay, but JPGs aren't
[11:43] <Stormx2> phixnay: What error do you receive?
[11:44] <phixnay> no error, I just can't hear any sound
[11:44] <farkr> how much space does a full install of ubuntu take?
[11:44] <Stormx2> IntuitiveNipple: What about PNG? sounds like you may have installed some wierd gif parsing libraries...
[11:44] <phixnay> I hear gaim sounds though
[11:44] <Stormx2> phixnay: No, for the link.
[11:44] <Slart> IntuitiveNipple: RIAA and friends has been around? only proprietary formats allowed? )
[11:44] <Slart> ;)
[11:44] <Stormx2> phixnay: Why doesn't the link work?
[11:44] <phixnay> it's just a blank page
[11:44] <jeffery> ikonia, No, as I said, that is when I get this cannot find a suitable ramdisk generation tool.
[11:44] <jerp> hahahaha, this stuff is funny, you spend two days on getting things straight and then an update comes in and screws things back to hell
[11:44] <jackson3246> how do I use gcc-3.3 to compile something instead of gcc-4.0?
[11:44] <pike_> farkr: around 2 gigs doing regular gnome isntall with openoffice etc i think
[11:44] <IntuitiveNipple> ooo hang on its working now :O
[11:45] <IntuitiveNipple> ooo, no, its gone again... hmmmph
[11:45] <phixnay> stormX I copied the link location, and now it's a gray background
[11:45] <IntuitiveNipple> oh no... those were GIFs... this IS weird !
[11:45] <Stormx2> phixnay: What browser are you using?
[11:45] <pike_> i never run updates until there are updates to the updates ;p
[11:45] <jerp> I had my beryl working also this morning the update and nvidia-glx broke for some reason, who knows (I'm not the kind to go blamin')
[11:45] <phixnay> firefox (configured to be 32)
[11:46] <stefg> CarlFK: you need the full source tree anyway, and rather ask in #vmware if you expect results
[11:46] <der_maddin> hi all
[11:46] <Rage1248> Yea, so mu comp just crashed extending a logical volume onto a new physical volume. Is there any way to recover the data from the two physical volumes that were part of the group?
[11:46] <phixnay> did you try the link to verify that it working?
[11:46] <Slart> IntuitiveNipple: I would install some other browser... isn't there something in the repos? just to see if it's on your end
[11:46] <Stormx2> phixnay: You running 64 bit?
[11:46] <phixnay> yeah
[11:46] <Rage1248> please, it's like 200GB!
[11:46] <mnoir> jerp: beryl is not very mainstream  - you can expect weirdness
[11:46] <IntuitiveNipple> its not Firefox - its affecting emails in Evolution too :S
[11:46] <Borzen> Hay i back  it didnt add the new partition i wanted.
[11:46] <Borzen> Help
[11:46] <der_maddin> quick question: what tool to install for controlling the fans ?
[11:46] <Eroick> with 300mb of ram and a 600mhz proccesser how withh Ubuntu run with X
[11:47] <stefg> Eroick: o problem
[11:47] <Slart> IntuitiveNipple: Evolution and firefox use some common image component?
[11:47] <phixnay> i followed this guide to get flash and java to work https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[11:47] <stefg> Eroick: *no problem*
[11:47] <Stormx2> phixnay: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash
[11:47] <Eroick> stefg: awesome, thanks
[11:47] <phixnay> k thanks, it went
[11:47] <IntuitiveNipple> it feels more like something on the wire blocking JPGs - all sizes are 0
[11:47] <CarlFK> stefg: getting so so results in #vmware.  are you sure about the full source?  the vmware-server install says "What is the location of the directory of C header files ..."
[11:47] <jerp> mnoir, yeah I know it's not mainstream, #Beryl doesn't even offer a webpage howto
[11:47] <Stormx2> IntuitiveNipple: What image formats, specifically?
[11:47] <Slart> IntuitiveNipple: libjpg perhaps? try reinstalling that?
[11:47] <jackson3246> how do I use gcc-3.3 to compile something instead of gcc-4.0?
[11:47] <Rage1248> Yea, so mu comp just crashed extending a logical volume onto a new physical volume. Is there any way to recover the data from the two physical volumes that were part of the group?
[11:47] <stefg> CarlFK: you need the sources
[11:47] <mag_> can you help me with ACL's
[11:48] <Drunken_Canuck> is there any reason why when i download what is supposed to be a dvd iso it just shows the video ts folder and i have to extract it piece by piece?
[11:48] <Borzen> Why wont my HDD wont Repartition
[11:48] <mnoir> jerp: but you may want to checkin with #ubuntu-xgl to see if anybody else shares your sorrow
[11:48] <IntuitiveNipple> JPGs have stopped displaying in the last hour or so, in Evolution (emails) and Firefox - I noticed it on the BBC news web site to begin with, thought it was just a server problem
[11:48] <jerp> thanks mnoir,  I'm already there :)
[11:48] <ucordes> Borzen: maybe the partitions you would like to modify are in use by your system?
[11:48] <jeffery> ikonia, I just had to tell it in the kernel config not to create a initrd.
[11:49] <Slart> !libjpeg64
[11:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libjpeg64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:49] <Slart> !libjpeg62
[11:49] <ubotu> libjpeg62: The Independent JPEG Group's JPEG runtime library. In component main, is optional. Version 6b-13 (edgy), package size 80 kB, installed size 192 kB
[11:50] <IntuitiveNipple> It's not libjpeg - thumbnail viewer is showing local JPGs okay... i'll try them in firefox
[11:50] <naut> How do I get JDK 6 on dapper?
[11:51] <Jsm06> !jdk
[11:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jdk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:51] <stefg> !java
[11:51] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[11:51] <mvfeinstein> Can anyone here tell me how I can set up the media keys on my (logitech S 510) keyboard?
[11:51] <Jsm06> !java | naut
[11:51] <ubotu> naut: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[11:51] <stefg> ! keytouch | mvfeinstein
[11:51] <ubotu> mvfeinstein: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[11:51] <naut> thanks guys
[11:51] <IntuitiveNipple> ok - yes, its something local - Firefox can't display a local JPG
[11:52] <interfear> is there a repo for svn mplayer?
[11:53] <IntuitiveNipple> Ha! and now its working again
[11:53] <mnoir> !elaborate | interfear
[11:53] <ubotu> interfear: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[11:53] <fbc> are there any guides to setting up ubuntu as a network router?
[11:54] <funkja> Hi. I need to connect to a remote X server and I'm not sure how to do it on Ubuntu. On windows I can use xwin32 to connect... what is something similar for linux
[11:54] <Slart> fbc: look for debian howto's instead.. it's probably the same procedure
[11:54] <Slart> fbc: and there are plenty of tutorials for debian routers.. I'm using one myself
[11:54] <fbc> Slart:  thanks...
[11:54] <nihil_sum> I was copying some files from a Samba network share onto my local ext3 filesystem, and midway through it started complaining that the filesystem is read-only.  Half the files got copied... But now I can't write to my filesystem?
[11:55] <mag_> I need some help please whit ACl's
[11:55] <nihil_sum> I tried sudo mount -o remount /... "block device /dev/disk/by-uuid/... is write-protected, mounting read-only."
[11:55] <_Sean> Can someone give me some sort of link on how to install nvidia gfx drivers for ubuntu?
[11:55] <nihil_sum> I did a e2fsck and it fixed some things, but it still will only mount read-only
[11:55] <stefg> interfear: repo (repository, meaning *binaries* ) and svn (tehe *s* stands for source) are mutually exclusive
[11:55] <mnoir> funkja: how do you connect using xwin32?
[11:55] <mnoir> funkja: if i know that i may be able to help
[11:55] <mvfeinstein> stefg what about setting keys for options that are not in the keyboard shortcut screen?
[11:56] <der_maddin> could anyone tell me what tool to install for controlling my system fans ?
[11:56] <stefg> ! keytouch | mvfeinstein
[11:56] <ubotu> mvfeinstein: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[11:56] <funkja> mnoir: nevermind. I figured it out. I can connect with ssh -X. Thanks though.
[11:56] <naut> !javdebs
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about javdebs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:56] <naut> !javadebs
[11:56] <mnoir> funkja: that was going to be my suggestion, probably :)
[11:56] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[11:56] <Joel_melapaa> how can i set windows key as menu key in ubuntu? Or can i??
[11:57] <grayscale> well Quanta crashed me out completely, that was fun
[11:57] <stefg> ! keytouch | Joel_melapaa
[11:57] <ubotu> Joel_melapaa: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[11:57] <Slart> Joel_melapaa: there are some settings in the xorg.conf for what the windows keys should do..
[11:57] <grayscale> I guess I'll just stick to Bluefish
[11:57] <der_maddin> could anyone tell me what tool to install for controlling my system fans ?
[11:57] <ucordes> Joel_melapaa, interesting. i would like to know this too
[11:57] <Gosha> does anyone have a picture of a girl, or woman, having hair so long it reaches to her waist?
[11:57] <stefg> ! keytouch | ucordes
[11:57] <ubotu> ucordes: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[11:57] <crimsun> Gosha: off-topic.
[11:58] <Gosha> oh?
[11:58] <Gosha> :P
[11:58] <mvfeinstein> stefg sorry didnt see that last part
[11:58] <crimsun> bitterly off-topic.
[11:58] <_Sean> Can someone give me some sort of link on how to install nvidia gfx drivers for ubuntu?
[11:58] <Slart> !Nvidia | _Sean
[11:58] <ubotu> _Sean: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:58] <theflyingfool> how do i make an iso with ubuntu
[11:58] <soujiro> hi. i just installed ubuntu. some things that i want to now. when trying to start GPROFTPD it says that i have to be root. but im am. and i cant find apache and ssh server
[11:58] <ucordes> Joel_melapaa, see above
[11:58] <stefg> !nvidia | _Sean
[11:58] <_Sean> thanks
[11:58] <ucordes> stefg: thx
[11:59] <kitche> theflyingfool: man mkisofs unless you want to use a gui burning tool
[11:59] <Slart> theflyingfool: I think there are something in cdrecord package.. mkisofs or something like that
[11:59] <grayscale> mnoir, where's that support group @?
[11:59] <Dial_tone> soujiro, you're probably not root or at least shouldn't be. use sudo to start it.
[11:59] <kitche> theflyingfool: mkisofs has so many options that looking at the man page is easier to explain it
[12:00] <kitche> soujiro: ssh-server is not installed by default
[12:00] <ucordes> soujiro, simply launch gproftp by typing "sudo gproftpd" into your console or change the start menu entry with alacarte from "gproftpd" to "sudo gproftpd"
[12:00] <Slart> good night, Maximilian1st
[12:00] <theflyingfool> what would be a gui for it?
[12:00] <erisco> !players
[12:00] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs