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Commander-CroweMaximilian1st, I'm sure that you guys have logs12:27
TheSheepit would be nice to have more xfce-ish looks in feisty by default12:28
pepikok went through network-admin with gk sudo, but its weird. wireless network not configured, so i click properties, tick enable, set a hexadecimal passwork, its already on DHCP, so I click OK and it still says not configured. if i go back into ath0 properties, its not enabled but the hex password is in there.12:28
TheSheepwith centered large panel at the bottom and icons on the desktop12:28
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Maximilian1stCommander-Crowe, you want to see these? Where to post?12:28
TheSheepkalikiana: lets for a pressure group! :)12:29
TheSheepform12:30
Maximilian1stxfce-look.org?12:30
somerville32I have the weirdest issue.12:30
Commander-CroweMaximilian1st, pastebin.ca12:30
somerville32Top is telling me that I have several processes running12:30
somerville32lol12:30
kalikianaThat's not unusual, someville3212:31
somerville32It says I have 8-912:31
pepikwifi-radar is showing two networks.12:31
somerville32Thats weird.12:31
maxamillionsomerville32: run htop ;)12:31
TheSheepsomerville32: what does ps auxwww say?12:31
somerville32TheSheep: a lot12:31
TheSheepsomerville32: looks like you have a lot of processes running :D12:32
somerville32Tasks: 104 total,   9 running,  94 sleeping,   0 stopped,   1 zombie12:32
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Maximilian1stpepik, mine is not enabled neither but works.12:39
=== somerville32 wonders why hald is eatting up all his processor power.
=== maxamillion assumes its because you are running an alpha version operating system and there is a fork hemmorage somewhere
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Maximilian1stGood night all.12:44
Maximilian1stIt's getting late in good old europe.12:44
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somerville32Hmmm12:46
somerville32ivman is using up 60% of my cpu cycles12:46
somerville32udevd is using up 20%12:47
somerville32I think... there is an issue12:47
maxamillionkill ivman!!!! :P12:47
somerville32Something is happening12:47
somerville32I think even spamming12:47
somerville32*event12:47
somerville32or something12:47
maxamillionprocess spam ... gotta love it12:48
pepi1anyone know wifi-radar here12:48
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maxamillionwhat's up?12:48
pepi1ha thought you'd left.12:48
pepi1i thought i had the connection so i unplugged. wrong.12:49
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TheSheepsomerville32: see dmesg12:49
maxamillionpepi1: yeah, i did leave ... left work, came home ... signed back on :)12:49
somerville32haa!12:49
somerville32found it!!12:49
maxamillionsomerville32: rock on ... what is it?12:49
somerville32[ 4401.891300]  Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found.12:50
somerville32[ 4402.039197]  Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found.12:50
somerville32[ 4402.195551]  Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found.12:50
somerville32[ 4402.379546]  Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found.12:50
somerville32[ 4402.524020]  Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found.12:50
somerville32Over and over and over and over and over12:50
maxamilliontold you ... fork hemorage12:50
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pepi1so wifi-radar: if you chose use WPA, it has a box where you enter the driver. on the homepage the sample screenshot shows "ipw" in this box. do you know what they are talking about?12:50
maxamillionohhh, yeah ... not at all ... wpa is a pain and i normally only use wifi in coffee shops and on campus, both are unsecure12:51
pepi1cool app though, if only i knew what this wpa driver was.12:53
maxamillion!ipw12:53
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:53
maxamillionhrmmm12:53
maxamillion!info ipw12:53
ubotuPackage ipw does not exist in any distro I know12:54
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pepi1otherwise i have mode=auto, channel=auto, key= {wpa key}, security open, DHCP, no connection commands.12:54
somerville32maxamillion, Any idea how to fix it?12:55
maxamillionnope, i haven't tried wpa ....12:56
maxamillion:(12:56
pepi1ah well. somehow i got it to work in SuSE 10.1, didn't actually do anything special though. Just got lucky i guess.12:57
maxamillionpossible ... not sure though, does it not mention anything about the wpa driver in the wiki docs anywhere?12:59
pepi1no, it does mention the wpa supplicant though.01:00
maxamillionyeah ... i have heard good things about wpa supplicant but i know nothing about it01:01
pepi1quick question - if i unplug the network cable i lose the connection. how do i reconnect it without logging in and out?01:02
pepi1also thanks for the help so far... just have a bad feeling i am about to crash something!01:04
maxamillionpepi1: sudo dhclient01:05
maxamillionpepi1: assuming you use dhcp01:05
pepi1yes i do.01:06
pepi1essid - it that the name of my box, like SpeedTouchXYZ123?01:07
cellofellowno, that's the wifi signal name.01:07
pepi1it wants me to "wpa_passphrase NetworkEssid" but i don't think i set an essid.01:09
cellofellowimpossible. networks need an essid. some don't broadcast it, making the network "invisible" but it01:10
cellofellowstill there01:10
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somerville32Ok01:12
somerville32I think I found the issue :)01:12
pepi1where would i find it?01:12
somerville32maxamillion, Bug #7427101:12
UbugtuMalone bug 74271 in hal "hald uses all of the cpu" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7427101:12
cellofellowrouter configs should have the essid in there somewhere.01:12
pepi1i see ssid, but not essid01:13
cellofellowsame thing in practice01:13
pepi1ok thanks01:14
maxamillioni gotta run01:14
maxamillionneed food01:15
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Jester45would anyone here that has a simi new hardrive run sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/hda (the hda might need to change)01:34
Jester45its only timing things it doent change anythin01:34
TheSheep Timing cached reads:   598 MB in  2.00 seconds = 298.56 MB/sec01:35
TheSheep Timing buffered disk reads:  168 MB in  3.01 seconds =  55.76 MB/sec01:35
TheSheeppretty slow :/01:35
Jester45thanks and whats about sudo hdparm /dev/hda01:36
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somerville32:] 01:36
TheSheep IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)01:36
TheSheep readonly     =  0 (off)01:36
TheSheep readahead    = 256 (on)01:36
TheSheep geometry     = 9729/255/63, sectors = 156301488, start = 001:36
Jester45im just wondering about other driver compared to mine01:36
TheSheephmm.. I should enable 32-bit support01:37
somerville32/dev/hda:01:37
somerville32 Timing cached reads:    72 MB in  2.07 seconds =  34.83 MB/sec01:37
somerville32 Timing buffered disk reads:   26 MB in  3.10 seconds =   8.38 MB/sec01:37
Jester45do it if you want01:37
Jester45wow somerville32 that cache is slow01:37
somerville32Thats my old HD01:37
somerville32This is my new HD:01:37
somerville32/dev/hdc:01:37
somerville32 Timing cached reads:    58 MB in  2.04 seconds =  28.47 MB/sec01:37
somerville32 Timing buffered disk reads:   26 MB in  3.11 seconds =   8.36 MB/sec01:37
somerville32lol01:37
somerville32Even slower01:37
Jester45own in the face01:38
Jester45lol01:38
somerville32Oh wait01:38
TheSheep setting 32-bit IO_support flag to 101:38
TheSheep HDIO_SET_32BIT failed: Invalid argument01:38
TheSheepO.o01:38
somerville32Jester45: Those are most likely scewed01:38
Jester45how so01:38
Jester45useing lots of harddriver?01:38
somerville32Bug #7427101:38
UbugtuMalone bug 74271 in hal "hald uses all of the cpu" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7427101:38
somerville32I need to reboot01:38
somerville32hald is using up all my juice right now01:39
cellofellowhald? what you got plugged in?01:39
somerville32Look at the bug :P01:39
Jester45 Timing cached reads:   316 MB in  2.02 seconds = 156.56 MB/sec01:39
Jester45 Timing buffered disk reads:   52 MB in  3.10 seconds =  16.80 MB/sec for me01:39
Jester45i like teh cache not the real read time01:39
cellofellowk01:40
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cellofellowgrrr. I dunno what it is but whenever I close Firefox with a tab with a signed-in Google page, when I start up firefox again the cookie that saves the login has vanished and I HAVE to log in again. I'd rather it stayed logged in.01:44
Jester45maybe the first tim you tried you told ff to never save the cookie01:45
Jester45*time01:46
cellofellowno, I didn't do that. If I close the tab with Google in it, and then close firefox, next session, I get treated to my Personalized Homepage.01:46
cellofellowwell, it is actually swiftfox if that makes any difference.01:47
Jester45might01:47
cellofellowI've taken to using the CheckGmail button in the system tray to launch swiftfox cause it provides the login data somehow.01:48
cellofellowI do have about 2 Gmail extensions and 2 or 3 Gmail greasemonkey scripts.01:48
Jester45TheSheep: you have to set 32bit with the -c3 flag01:49
TheSheepJester45: thanks01:49
Jester45i think01:49
TheSheepsetting 32-bit IO_support flag to 3 HDIO_SET_32BIT failed: Invalid argument01:49
Jester45what command are yo-u running01:49
TheSheepJester45: maybe my drive/controller just doesn't support it01:50
Jester45sud hdparm -c3 /dev/drive ?01:50
TheSheepsheep@ghostwheel:~$ sudo hdparm -c4 /dev/sda01:50
TheSheepouch, c301:50
Jester45i think it has to be a ide driver01:50
TheSheepJester45: it *is* an ide drive01:51
Jester45ok01:52
TheSheepJester45: 2.6.20 kernels see them as sata01:52
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Jester45o really01:52
TheSheepJester45: they are planning to drop ide entirely01:52
Jester45no!!!01:52
cellofellowwhat? that's all I have.01:52
Jester45i them01:52
Jester45whats teh tranferspeed of a ide cable like 350mbs?01:53
cellofellowwell, if all that means once I get a copy of that kernel is that devices will no longer have the hd prefix, I don't really care.01:53
TheSheepcellofellow: that's pretty much all from the user's standpoint01:53
cellofellowI know IDE is being fazed out, but I thought SATA support was to shaky to totally stand behind it like that.01:55
TheSheepcellofellow: it's more scsi01:56
TheSheepcellofellow: I think they are seen as scsi01:56
cellofellowI've noticed USB drives show as sd. so does that meen that they are seen as virtual scsi drives or something?01:56
Jester45ima brb gonna test whe only cli so i can get top speed01:57
TheSheepcellofellow: yes01:58
cellofellowok01:58
cellofellowYippeee. I love the GIMP.02:00
cellofellowI've used it since before linux. And OpenOffice and Firefox too.02:00
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cellofellowIs there a way to use the Tango icons with Qt apps? They look so outlandish with the Crystal icons.02:11
cellofellowchanging the symlink /usr/share/icons/default.kde from crystalsvg to Tango didn't work.02:15
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luckyonemy sound doesn't seem to be working... I think I have muted a device somehow when setting up my multimedia buttons on my keyboard02:25
darrend_laptophi.  Why can I not use sudo to put values into /proc files?  example: "sudo echo 1 > /proc/whatever" fails with permission denied.  I have to "sudo su -" and then change the value to make it work02:25
luckyoneanyone know how to help?02:25
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cellofellowwell, sudo is root and it isn't. Some of the fact that it02:25
cellofellow''s you doing it remain.02:25
darrend_laptopok, still not sure I understand.  If sudo allows me to assume root privs for that command, at what point do I lose those privs?02:27
cellofellowdunno02:28
cellofellowbrb02:28
cellofellowbbl actually02:28
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grazieluckyone: any sound yet?02:33
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luckyonegrazie: not yet, going through the forum post for sound problems02:38
luckyoneit has worked before, it just doesn't seem to want to right now02:38
luckyoneI think I muted something, but alsamixer says that everything is cool02:39
grazieif mixer looks good dunno what else to suggest02:40
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cellofellowbye bye02:43
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Shaezscheis there a cpu clock frequency control app for xubuntu?02:45
Shaezschelike klaptop for kde, and the powernowd menu thing for gnome02:45
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pygijanny around?02:56
somerville32Who is janny?02:56
pygixD02:56
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archangelpetrocould anyone suggest a solution?  http://rafb.net/p/RUqIwC52.html  im not sure what's wrong here.03:09
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somerville32"do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin" <-- hint03:11
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somerville32and it seems you're missing a required library03:11
archangelpetrohmm and as is shown by the ls output.. the library is there.03:12
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archangelpetroand could you possibly suggest another wya of running it?03:12
somerville32Did you read README-linux.txt?03:13
archangelpetro"Run ./secondlife from the installation directory to start Second Life."03:14
somerville32Hmm03:17
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archangelpetroi know, a bit odd03:18
archangelpetroi am on amd64, but they library is located in /lib, is there a 32bit version of this library that i can install to /usr/lib3203:21
somerville32lol03:23
somerville32Does the client support amd64?03:23
somerville32You might have to recompile for amd6403:23
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archangelpetrowell no, but it's worked with amd64 if u use the 32bit libraries.. actually i think ive worked out the problem03:26
archangelpetrothe library libuuid.so.1  is in /lib   but most of the libraries i seem to be using (and the 32 bit ones) are in /usr/lib and /usr/lib32 respectively03:26
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archangelpetroso.. i suppose i need to find a package for 32bit version of this library03:27
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yotuxcan anyone offer me some assistance with setting up iwconfig or a good howto site04:05
TheSheep!wifi04:06
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:06
yotuxThankz04:07
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maxamillion!seen vidd04:17
somerville32maxamillion, see -devel04:18
maxamillionsomerville32: rgr04:20
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somerville32Yeah!04:29
somerville32I fixed it :)04:29
Jester45w00t04:30
Jester45what you fix?04:30
somerville32PMCIA issue that was causing hald to eat up all my cpu and eventually cause it to crash and burn04:30
Jester45you post it on sourceforge?04:31
Jester45pr what ever that was04:32
Jester45the bug thingly04:32
somerville32lol04:33
somerville32Yes04:33
somerville32The bug was already there04:33
Jester45i know04:33
Jester45what about how to fix it04:33
somerville32Already there04:33
Jester45o04:33
somerville32I followed the instructions in one of the comments04:33
Jester45so YOU didnt fix04:33
somerville32I fixed my problem, yes04:34
somerville32I didn't come up with the solution though04:34
Jester45you had me beleiving that you did somthing04:34
Jester45well04:34
Jester45i ran about every hdparm options04:34
Jester45testes 4 times04:34
Jester45loged the test04:35
somerville32oh04:35
somerville32I should run that again04:35
Jester45typed it all in the forums04:35
Jester45figured the adverage04:35
Jester45and then posted it and it ever showed up04:35
Jester45my best options are04:35
Jester45-d1 -c1 -a24 -u1 -m16 -A104:36
Jester45gave me a top of04:36
somerville32Woot04:36
somerville32I got a much better result now04:36
Jester45240ish MB/s cache04:36
somerville32Mine isn't that fast04:36
Jester4530ish mb/s disk read04:36
somerville32I got an old computer04:36
Jester45me to04:36
Jester45untill spring04:36
Jester45im still gonna use this04:36
Jester45i orded more ram its soming on the 11th04:37
somerville32I just got more random around Christmas time04:37
somerville32Two 128mb sticks to replace my two 64mb sticks04:37
Jester45how much now?04:37
Jester45yes i got a 64 an 128 new 128 coming04:37
somerville32128+128==25604:37
Jester45and after that i got a 1ghz celeron coming04:37
Jester45then i should be set04:38
Jester45can upgrade it much mor04:38
Jester45have to get new mobo for that04:38
Jester45http://www.hardwareforums.com/these-cpus-compatible-16365/ is my tread about it04:39
Jester45that site is great04:39
somerville32:)04:40
Jester45plus they have cool games04:40
Jester45think you have to be member to play04:40
somerville32lol04:41
Jester45i got a hight score a long time ago and its still there there wasa bug with my flash verson that made the game ez04:42
Jester45it was game that you smash flys with chop sticks04:43
Jester45when the flies start they stop for s sec then start flying04:43
Jester45when with my flash they stoped for more than a second :004:43
Jester45so i was killing them b4 they could move04:43
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Jester45im out05:17
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Ro_Vaihello i'm new to xubuntu is there a way to change the color of the top panel?05:24
Ro_Vai... easier question how do i change the xubuntu color scheme05:26
somerville32Applications > Settings > User Interface Settings05:26
Ro_Vaithanks05:27
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atarinoxis there a task manager installed in xubuntu by default? and where would i find it?05:35
TheSheepatarinox: system->process manager05:36
atarinoxahhh thank you05:37
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cellofellowhtop rocks05:41
Ro_Vaihow do i check what version of xubuntu i'm using?05:43
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somerville32Ro_Vai: Look in /etc/issue05:44
Jester45how can you make the launcher button run sudo commands?05:45
TheSheepJester45: use gksudo05:45
Jester45no go05:46
Jester45i tring ot get sudo hdparm -Y /dev/hda to run05:46
cellofellowgksudo Terminal something05:47
Jester45!gksudo05:49
ubotuIf you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using "sudo <GUI-application>"05:49
Jester45im not trying to run a gui app05:49
cellofellowyou can do sudo cli-app and check the terminal option05:49
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Jester45oo05:51
Jester45over looked that05:51
Jester45now how does it know my pass05:51
cellofellowsudo-caching05:51
Jester45so i have to sudo somthing first05:51
cellofellowyou could write a script, without sudo in it, set it to owned by root and setuid. Just make sure no one can write to it or you have an easy way to root you.05:52
Jester45to hard05:53
Jester45thanks tho05:54
cellofellowjust write the script with that command, and then do sudo chown root myscript.sh, sudo chmod 4555 myscript.sh05:54
cellofellow:[05:54
Ro_Vaiis xubuntu 7.04 fairly stable yet?05:58
somerville32Meh05:59
somerville32:)05:59
somerville32I'm on 7.04 right now05:59
somerville32There are still some upgrade issues05:59
PuMpErNiCkLeIt hasn't even hit feature freeze yet.06:00
somerville32Yeah, there are updates to download every day06:02
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Ro_Vaiya I just upgraded recently06:02
Ro_Vaii'm thinking of installing beryl06:03
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therapydoes anyone in here know how to make a my laptop go into suspend mode when the lid is closed? (instead of blank screen)11:19
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therapybtw i'm using xubuntu edgy11:19
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stifthi01:44
stiftsomeone help me to put vnc on an xubuntu01:44
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stift2what name has the winodwmanager of xubuntu01:55
stift2gdm?01:55
gabkdllystift2: I believe that would be xfwm401:56
PuMpErNiCkLeThe window manager is xfwm.  gdm is a display manager.01:56
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stift2were can i see it01:58
gabkdllystift2: doing "which xfwm4" returns "/usr/bin/xfwm4" on my system.02:02
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Zeqfreedhey guys02:14
stift2i dont get it runing02:24
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gabkdll1stift2: if you are just trying to run X programs on a remote machine, you could do "ssh -X user@host [command] "02:28
stift2no.. i just want to setup a xubuntu on a old machine for someone who dont likes windows :)02:29
stift2but that person dont knows toomuch about linux02:30
stift2so i will probably need vnc to show him how things go on02:31
gabkdll1ah, ok. understand. Sorry, I have no experience with vnc myself.02:32
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AL89hello guys. which programm would you recommend to rip my cds to .mp3 files?02:41
gabkdll1AL89: sound-juicer is the default for ubuntu02:45
AL89i just downloaded ripperX02:46
AL89is it any good?02:46
gabkdll1although, id does not handle mp3s by default02:46
gabkdll1I never used ripperX myself02:47
AL89okay02:47
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GostyHi can somebody recommend me java compiler?03:08
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AL89gabkdll1, ripperx is quite good. easy to handle and configure.04:10
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nofxxhi... when I close the laptop lid my xubuntu try to hibernate, but it comes back stay on BUT STOP THE CPU COOLER..... now I dont know witch is worse: burn my lap or go back to windows04:53
nofxxplease help.. xD04:53
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dobbbobis there an ap for xubuntu that lets me control clock frequency? and set defaults for ac and battery?06:03
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age6racerhey all, quick question... I am running Xubuntu on a PIII 600mhz laptop with 128mb Ram, will installing Wine slow the system down much? or will it just be when I run windows apps?07:28
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Commander-Croweage6racer if you can add a little more ram you should be fine07:32
TheSheepage6racer: no, it will just be used for running windows apps -- unless you want to use a daemonized version of wine07:32
TheSheepage6racer: you can always remove the wine daemon from startup07:32
age6racerok thanks guys07:37
age6racerI'm planning to add some more ram (take it upto 320mb)07:37
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Rageagainstthisis there a launcher function in xubuntu like ubuntu?08:04
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ormiretRageagainstthis: what do you mean by launcher? Something to start applications?08:08
Rageagainstthisor a series of commands in terminal08:08
starvingstudentI'm a bit confused. I was trying to install VMware through the Add/Remove Applications...anyways it didn't complete and I now get an error.08:09
Rageagainstthisvmware player or server?08:10
starvingstudentplayer08:11
Rageagainstthishow far into the install did you get?08:11
starvingstudentI think it installed 3 of the 4 sections.08:11
Rageagainstthisare you using 6.06?08:11
starvingstudentUnsure to be honest. Went away and came back ~.~08:11
starvingstudentNah. I'm using 6.10 edgy08:11
Rageagainstthisinteresting, what kind of error do you get?08:12
starvingstudent"E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. "08:12
starvingstudentThats a bit confusing. Care to explain? I'd really like to know what that means o.008:12
Rageagainstthisi have never run into that error before actually.  Ive always used vmware server myself08:13
starvingstudentHrmmm.08:14
Rageagainstthiswell i suppose you can manually run the .deb package with dpkg08:14
starvingstudentI guess I'll have to.08:14
Rageagainstthisor you can try automatix2 it has vmwareplayer on there08:14
starvingstudenthrmmm08:14
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starvingstudentI tried to run dpkg --configure a in a terminal and it keeps saying "requires superuser privilege" I need to be logged in as root? :p08:16
Devil_Kinhey folks, did anything break with one of the recent updates to edgy xubuntu? even xfce-mcs-manager crashes with a segfault08:16
Rageagainstthissudo yes08:16
Devil_Kinnm, seems xfce4-mcs-plugins got b0rked08:21
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starvingstudentlol...man...I think I should just stick to the search function on the forums. :p08:21
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natirahi08:55
natirade3sperate\08:55
natira:-(08:55
natiraWTF!!08:55
natirai ain't got no borders08:55
natiracan't move windows around08:56
natiraI go to setting and click window manager and I get an error08:56
natira"These settings cannot work with your current window manager (unknown)08:57
maxamillionnatira: alt+f2 ... put "xfwm4" in the run dialogue that will pop up and click 'run'08:57
TheSheepnatira: press alt+ctrl+f108:57
natiraalso windows manger tweaks aaint working08:57
TheSheepnatira: then log in there08:58
TheSheepnatira: type 'export DISPLAY=:0'08:58
TheSheepnatira: and then xfwm408:58
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natirohi09:02
natirook this all weird09:02
natirono w I am in gnome and backspace isnt working09:03
TheSheepnatira: nowehre, or only in terminal?09:03
natiroand gnome terminal doesn't work09:03
natiroI've tried on ly on terminal09:03
natirowhat the hell happened?09:04
TheSheepI don't know about gnome terminal, but Terminal has an option on what should backspace do, in the preferences09:04
natiroby the way I am fixin... nothing to do with that it was working fine with xubuntu09:04
natironow how come I sitll have gnome? I thought IU;'ve remove it all09:05
TheSheepnatira: let me get my tea to do a little auguring :)09:05
natiroand is there a waty to fix Xubuntu?09:05
TheSheepnatira: what's broken?09:05
natiroeveyrything is working fine except I don';t have border therefore unable to move windows around09:05
TheSheepnatira: ah, your xfwm4 didn't start09:05
TheSheepnatira: you need to run it somehow and save the session on logout09:06
natirothe freaking border then just a few seconds ago someone told me to to do ctrl+alt+f1 I dpon't konw why but I did start x and I am ein Gnome now09:06
TheSheepnatira: make sure it is installed09:06
natiroohhh... I think the hateful daughetr of my friend th did this shieet09:06
TheSheepnatira: I old you to press alt+ctrlf1, to swithc to text terminal so that you can run xfwm4 from there09:06
natironow I ,,... and you ;-) got to fix this ehshieeat09:07
natiroohh I got it... no for running startx09:07
natiroROFL!!!09:07
natirook so I kill X now?09:07
natirostart that one09:07
natiroand go back to where if F1 is the fisr thing09:07
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TheSheepI don't follow you :?09:09
natirahi09:12
natiraI am still in here lol09:12
natiraok09:12
natiraI don09:12
natira't have border at all09:12
natiraand when i try to type in window manager in the settings tells me cannot be used09:13
natiraand Window Manager Tweaks09:13
natiraso I am screw09:13
TheSheepnatira: you have to run xfwm4, didn't you try that?09:13
natirasays this window cannot work with your current window manager09:13
natirai did09:13
TheSheepnatira: the wm settings and tweaks won't work if xfwm4 is not running09:13
natiragives me an error couln't start some GTK thing09:14
TheSheepnatira: then that's what's broken09:14
natiraok let me see again09:14
natira(xfwm4:5591): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:09:14
natirawhat the heck09:15
TheSheepnatira: type 'export DISPLAY=:0'09:15
TheSheepnatira: and try again09:15
natiradid not work09:16
TheSheepnatira: what did it say?09:16
natiraman f@$% gnome didn't uninstall completeley09:16
natira(xfwm4:5595): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:09:16
natirayo man... all this is his daughter's fault09:17
natira:-(09:17
natira'cause she says she hates linux09:17
natirabut her father loves it09:17
somerville32natira: What version of Xubuntu are you using?09:18
natiraI've gotta open a new user for her to screw up as much as she wants without affecting her father's account09:18
natirahow can I find out?09:18
somerville32cat /etc/issue09:18
natira'cause I can't get to the menus without ending this conversation09:19
natiraUbuntu 6.10 \n \l09:19
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=== Maximilian1st Hi all.
natirai have the suspicion that some gnome shit is getting on the way. for instance how come I can run Gnome windows?09:20
somerville32do:09:20
somerville32sudo apt-get -f install09:21
natirainstall what?09:21
natiraI did remove gnome-desktop so I do'nt konw why the Gnome WM still there09:22
natiraanyone?09:22
somerville32...09:23
somerville32Are you at the command line?09:23
natirasomerville32: ok doing the commmand that you told me09:23
natirayeah on the other tab09:23
natiraand did what you've told me09:23
natira0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 53 not upgraded.09:23
somerville32What do you mean by other tab?09:24
natiraon the terminal09:24
somerville32Ok09:25
natiragot two windows09:25
natiranow?09:25
natira:-(09:25
somerville32Are you running Gnome or Xfce4 right now?09:25
natiraXfce4 now without Windows Manager, it wont' start09:25
natiraand i wanna get rid of Gnome09:25
natirais giving me issues09:25
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natirahow do i get rid of evolution?09:26
natirawhat about my xfce4 window manager?09:27
natirawhat can I do to restore it?09:27
ZambeziIs it beryl in Xubuntu Edgy?09:28
natiranaaa09:28
natiraplain Xubuntu09:28
natirayaiks!09:28
natirais evolution part of Xubuntu?09:28
natiraI just removed it09:28
Zambezinatira, There might be a dependiec. Did you check that?09:29
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natiranope09:29
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Zambezinatira, You're pretty new at Linux right?09:30
natirammm... new to @#$@#$ kuxubuntu09:30
natirai ran GEntoo09:30
natirarun09:30
natirano clue about what the heck is going on in here09:30
Zambezinatira, I'm thinking here.09:31
natirathanks09:31
Zambezinatira, I'm trying to help.09:31
somerville32natira, I recommend reinstalling. You can just remove random packages. :S09:31
natiranow the guy is rushing me09:31
natirareinstalling how?09:31
somerville32Natira: Which guy?09:31
natirawhat part do I have to reinstall?09:31
natiraguy's computer09:31
somerville32You're just uninstalling random crap on some guy's computer?09:32
natiraI am just trying to fix this for him09:32
natiramm... I figured evolution wasn't part of xubuntu09:32
natiraisn't it?09:32
natiragod09:33
somerville32Natira: It isn't09:33
Zambezisomerville32, I accidently remove packages that the kernel needed. But I have all the stuffs to a new computer, but I have installed everything yet. I might give Xfce another chance now. Is it Beryl in Edgy Eft?09:33
somerville32Zambezi, I'm not sure what you mean.09:34
natiraok how what should be my NEXT STEP09:34
natirafor sanities sake09:34
Zambezisomerville32, I liked Xubuntu, but its memoryleak isn't that hot.09:34
somerville32Zambezi: Edgy doesn't have that many memory leaks. Feisty is fine.09:34
Soirmemory leak?09:35
Zambezisomerville32, I messed up my installation too. I wasn't careful enough and didn't read which packages I also erased. You know, you delete one and apt-get wants too delete more packages. And I kind of removed an important packages, so if I reboot I won't be able to start the computer. :-)09:36
natiraplease09:37
Zambezisomerville32, But since I got a new computer, it doesn't matter. I just have to bukild it.09:37
natirahow can i fix xubuntu!!09:37
natiracan I reinstall xfwm?09:37
Zambezinatira, At first, you need patient.09:37
natiraok09:38
natirabut I mean Xfc4 is running fine09:38
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natirait's only that I don't have the borders09:38
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Zambezisomerville32, Do you run Xubuntu Feisty?09:38
somerville32Yup09:39
natirawhat's the package for xfwm??09:39
natiramay I reisntall it?09:39
natirayup to me?09:39
somerville32nope09:39
somerville32Zamezi: Ok, just download the ISO and install :)09:40
somerville32natira: Are you _sure_ you are running Xfce4?09:40
somerville32At the login screen, did you click sessions and then xfce4?09:40
somerville32What are you trying to accomplish?09:40
natirayes09:40
natiraok I will log in again 'cause it was my cluelesslesslesslesslessless that logged int09:41
natira*in09:41
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natiraok I am loggin in again09:43
somerville32...09:43
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Jenesishi09:55
somerville32Hi :)09:55
maxamillionhello09:56
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JenesisI want a aplicattion to record video from my webcam and save it in avi or mpg format09:56
Jenesiscan you give me advice?09:56
JenesisI'm using vlc but the archives seems to be no compatible whith youtube09:58
Jenesissorry my english is not very good09:58
somerville32Hmmm10:01
Jenesisa good tuto of vlc will do too.10:02
Jenesisthe vlc page is a little caothic10:02
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JenesisOf course I can record my videos directly in youtube, download them with unplug and convert them with ffmpeg... but.. I'd prefer  to use a linux aplicattion.10:06
maxamillionJenesis: http://www.kinodv.org/article/static/2 ... try that application .. its in the repositories and you can install it with apt-get, aptitude, or synaptic10:07
Jenesisthanks :)10:07
maxamillionJenesis: no problem :)10:10
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atarinoxcan somebody recommend some good software for receiving podcasts?10:14
JenesisiPodder10:17
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Jenesis iPodder : iPodder is a GUI-driven podcast receiver, allowing users to download and listen to Internet audio programs.10:17
somerville32!iPodder10:18
Jenesis:)10:18
somerville32Hmm...10:18
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somerville32Or yeah10:18
somerville32lol10:18
somerville32ubotu10:18
maxamillion:)10:18
maxamillionubotu: hello?10:19
ubotuhello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB10:19
maxamillionbah!10:19
maxamillionubotu: iPodder?10:19
maxamillionermmm...10:19
somerville32!info iPodder10:19
ubotuipodder: a podcast receiver. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.9-5 (edgy), package size 640 kB, installed size 2648 kB10:19
atarinoxis it relatively lightweight?10:19
somerville32Not sure :] 10:21
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somerville32Where is kalikiana?10:28
maxamillion!seen kalikiana10:29
ubotuI last saw kalikiana (n=kalikian@xdsl-84-44-178-49.netcologne.de) 8h 54m 36s ago, quiting: ""And Jesus said unto John: 'Come forth, I will give you eternal life!'. Unfortunately, John came fifth... he won a toaster.""10:29
Jenesisit's a bot !!10:29
JenesisI like bots !!10:29
maxamillionJenesis: yes ... yes it is :) ... ubotu and Ubugtu are bots10:29
Jenesis:D10:29
Jenesishi ubotu10:30
Jenesisit does not answer?10:31
somerville32It isn't smart10:33
somerville32It isn't for chatting with10:33
Jenesisops10:33
Jenesis:)10:34
Jenesiskino no supports input from v4l I'm afraid...10:34
Jenesisjust from an arhive10:35
Jenesisthanks anyway :)10:35
JenesisI have to go Bye !10:36
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PirateHeadxubuntu Edgy just somehow cut power to my USB ports11:00
PirateHeadhow do I turn them back on?11:00
somerville32:S11:02
somerville32Sounds like a hardware issue to me11:02
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Jester45how can i cheack what mother board i have without opening the computer and looking becuase that didnt work11:10
somerville32You can't11:14
somerville32Open it up again11:14
somerville32There should be a model number on it11:14
Jester45yes i tried that but cant find anything about it11:14
Jester45maybe i read it wrong becuase it was dime light and small text11:16
Jester45brb11:17
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RememberPOLSo... if I shut down my laptop while the AC charging cable is plugged in, it hangs on halt (no matter if APCI is disabled)... But if I shut down _without_ the AC charging cable plugged in, it completely shuts down just fine. Any ideas why this might be so?12:16
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