[12:27] Maximilian1st, I'm sure that you guys have logs [12:28] it would be nice to have more xfce-ish looks in feisty by default [12:28] ok went through network-admin with gk sudo, but its weird. wireless network not configured, so i click properties, tick enable, set a hexadecimal passwork, its already on DHCP, so I click OK and it still says not configured. if i go back into ath0 properties, its not enabled but the hex password is in there. [12:28] with centered large panel at the bottom and icons on the desktop === kalikiana agrees with TheSheep [12:28] Commander-Crowe, you want to see these? Where to post? [12:29] kalikiana: lets for a pressure group! :) [12:30] form [12:30] xfce-look.org? [12:30] I have the weirdest issue. [12:30] Maximilian1st, pastebin.ca [12:30] Top is telling me that I have several processes running [12:30] lol [12:31] That's not unusual, someville32 [12:31] It says I have 8-9 [12:31] wifi-radar is showing two networks. [12:31] Thats weird. [12:31] somerville32: run htop ;) [12:31] somerville32: what does ps auxwww say? [12:31] TheSheep: a lot [12:32] somerville32: looks like you have a lot of processes running :D [12:32] Tasks: 104 total, 9 running, 94 sleeping, 0 stopped, 1 zombie === Maximilian1st pasted the champion on http://pastebin.com/855517 [12:39] pepik, mine is not enabled neither but works. === somerville32 wonders why hald is eatting up all his processor power. === maxamillion assumes its because you are running an alpha version operating system and there is a fork hemmorage somewhere === b_52Free [n=skimo@adsl196-195-44-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu [12:44] Good night all. [12:44] It's getting late in good old europe. === pepi1 [n=pepik@87-194-84-242.bethere.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu [12:46] Hmmm [12:46] ivman is using up 60% of my cpu cycles [12:47] udevd is using up 20% [12:47] I think... there is an issue [12:47] kill ivman!!!! :P [12:47] Something is happening [12:47] I think even spamming [12:47] *event [12:47] or something [12:48] process spam ... gotta love it [12:48] anyone know wifi-radar here === maxamillion raises his hand [12:48] what's up? [12:48] ha thought you'd left. [12:49] i thought i had the connection so i unplugged. wrong. === madness [n=jfranji@83-131-74-221.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #xubuntu [12:49] somerville32: see dmesg [12:49] pepi1: yeah, i did leave ... left work, came home ... signed back on :) [12:49] haa! [12:49] found it!! [12:49] somerville32: rock on ... what is it? [12:50] [ 4401.891300] Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found. [12:50] [ 4402.039197] Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found. [12:50] [ 4402.195551] Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found. [12:50] [ 4402.379546] Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found. [12:50] [ 4402.524020] Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found. [12:50] Over and over and over and over and over [12:50] told you ... fork hemorage === cellofellow [n=josh@209.193.110.39] has joined #xubuntu [12:50] so wifi-radar: if you chose use WPA, it has a box where you enter the driver. on the homepage the sample screenshot shows "ipw" in this box. do you know what they are talking about? [12:51] ohhh, yeah ... not at all ... wpa is a pain and i normally only use wifi in coffee shops and on campus, both are unsecure [12:53] cool app though, if only i knew what this wpa driver was. [12:53] !ipw [12:53] Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [12:53] hrmmm [12:53] !info ipw [12:54] Package ipw does not exist in any distro I know === maxamillion slaps ubotu "bad bot!" [12:54] otherwise i have mode=auto, channel=auto, key= {wpa key}, security open, DHCP, no connection commands. [12:55] maxamillion, Any idea how to fix it? [12:56] nope, i haven't tried wpa .... [12:56] :( [12:57] ah well. somehow i got it to work in SuSE 10.1, didn't actually do anything special though. Just got lucky i guess. [12:59] possible ... not sure though, does it not mention anything about the wpa driver in the wiki docs anywhere? [01:00] no, it does mention the wpa supplicant though. [01:01] yeah ... i have heard good things about wpa supplicant but i know nothing about it [01:02] quick question - if i unplug the network cable i lose the connection. how do i reconnect it without logging in and out? [01:04] also thanks for the help so far... just have a bad feeling i am about to crash something! [01:05] pepi1: sudo dhclient [01:05] pepi1: assuming you use dhcp [01:06] yes i do. [01:07] essid - it that the name of my box, like SpeedTouchXYZ123? [01:07] no, that's the wifi signal name. [01:09] it wants me to "wpa_passphrase NetworkEssid" but i don't think i set an essid. [01:10] impossible. networks need an essid. some don't broadcast it, making the network "invisible" but it [01:10] still there === darrend_laptop [n=davisond@80.4.178.213] has joined #xubuntu [01:12] Ok [01:12] I think I found the issue :) [01:12] where would i find it? [01:12] maxamillion, Bug #74271 [01:12] Malone bug 74271 in hal "hald uses all of the cpu" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74271 [01:12] router configs should have the essid in there somewhere. [01:13] i see ssid, but not essid [01:13] same thing in practice [01:14] ok thanks [01:14] i gotta run [01:15] need food === Jester45 [n=Jester45@d39-153.rt-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #xubuntu === DarthLappy [n=Angus@pdpc/supporter/student/DarthShrine] has joined #xubuntu === HeathenDan [n=blarg@125.212.82.164] has joined #xubuntu === b_52Free [n=skimo@adsl196-252-36-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu [01:34] would anyone here that has a simi new hardrive run sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/hda (the hda might need to change) [01:34] its only timing things it doent change anythin [01:35] Timing cached reads: 598 MB in 2.00 seconds = 298.56 MB/sec [01:35] Timing buffered disk reads: 168 MB in 3.01 seconds = 55.76 MB/sec [01:35] pretty slow :/ [01:36] thanks and whats about sudo hdparm /dev/hda === pepi1 [n=pepik@87-194-84-242.bethere.co.uk] has left #xubuntu [] [01:36] :] [01:36] IO_support = 0 (default 16-bit) [01:36] readonly = 0 (off) [01:36] readahead = 256 (on) [01:36] geometry = 9729/255/63, sectors = 156301488, start = 0 [01:36] im just wondering about other driver compared to mine [01:37] hmm.. I should enable 32-bit support [01:37] /dev/hda: [01:37] Timing cached reads: 72 MB in 2.07 seconds = 34.83 MB/sec [01:37] Timing buffered disk reads: 26 MB in 3.10 seconds = 8.38 MB/sec [01:37] do it if you want [01:37] wow somerville32 that cache is slow [01:37] Thats my old HD [01:37] This is my new HD: [01:37] /dev/hdc: [01:37] Timing cached reads: 58 MB in 2.04 seconds = 28.47 MB/sec [01:37] Timing buffered disk reads: 26 MB in 3.11 seconds = 8.36 MB/sec [01:37] lol [01:37] Even slower [01:38] own in the face [01:38] lol [01:38] Oh wait [01:38] setting 32-bit IO_support flag to 1 [01:38] HDIO_SET_32BIT failed: Invalid argument [01:38] O.o [01:38] Jester45: Those are most likely scewed [01:38] how so [01:38] useing lots of harddriver? [01:38] Bug #74271 [01:38] Malone bug 74271 in hal "hald uses all of the cpu" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74271 [01:38] I need to reboot [01:39] hald is using up all my juice right now [01:39] hald? what you got plugged in? [01:39] Look at the bug :P [01:39] Timing cached reads: 316 MB in 2.02 seconds = 156.56 MB/sec [01:39] Timing buffered disk reads: 52 MB in 3.10 seconds = 16.80 MB/sec for me [01:39] i like teh cache not the real read time [01:40] k === darren1 [n=darren@43-015.adsl.zetnet.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu [01:44] grrr. I dunno what it is but whenever I close Firefox with a tab with a signed-in Google page, when I start up firefox again the cookie that saves the login has vanished and I HAVE to log in again. I'd rather it stayed logged in. [01:45] maybe the first tim you tried you told ff to never save the cookie [01:46] *time [01:46] no, I didn't do that. If I close the tab with Google in it, and then close firefox, next session, I get treated to my Personalized Homepage. [01:47] well, it is actually swiftfox if that makes any difference. [01:47] might [01:48] I've taken to using the CheckGmail button in the system tray to launch swiftfox cause it provides the login data somehow. [01:48] I do have about 2 Gmail extensions and 2 or 3 Gmail greasemonkey scripts. [01:49] TheSheep: you have to set 32bit with the -c3 flag [01:49] Jester45: thanks [01:49] i think [01:49] setting 32-bit IO_support flag to 3 HDIO_SET_32BIT failed: Invalid argument [01:49] what command are yo-u running [01:50] Jester45: maybe my drive/controller just doesn't support it [01:50] sud hdparm -c3 /dev/drive ? [01:50] sheep@ghostwheel:~$ sudo hdparm -c4 /dev/sda [01:50] ouch, c3 [01:50] i think it has to be a ide driver [01:51] Jester45: it *is* an ide drive [01:52] ok [01:52] Jester45: 2.6.20 kernels see them as sata === nalioth [i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth] has joined #xubuntu [01:52] o really [01:52] Jester45: they are planning to drop ide entirely [01:52] no!!! [01:52] what? that's all I have. [01:52] i them [01:53] whats teh tranferspeed of a ide cable like 350mbs? [01:53] well, if all that means once I get a copy of that kernel is that devices will no longer have the hd prefix, I don't really care. [01:53] cellofellow: that's pretty much all from the user's standpoint [01:55] I know IDE is being fazed out, but I thought SATA support was to shaky to totally stand behind it like that. [01:56] cellofellow: it's more scsi [01:56] cellofellow: I think they are seen as scsi [01:56] I've noticed USB drives show as sd. so does that meen that they are seen as virtual scsi drives or something? [01:57] ima brb gonna test whe only cli so i can get top speed [01:58] cellofellow: yes [01:58] ok [02:00] Yippeee. I love the GIMP. [02:00] I've used it since before linux. And OpenOffice and Firefox too. === b_52GM [n=skimo@adsl196-249-43-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu === grazie [n=grazie@86.150.90.46] has joined #xubuntu === ron_o [n=ron@12-210-173-67.client.mchsi.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:11] Is there a way to use the Tango icons with Qt apps? They look so outlandish with the Crystal icons. [02:15] changing the symlink /usr/share/icons/default.kde from crystalsvg to Tango didn't work. === luckyone [n=hidden@CPE-65-26-49-82.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:25] my sound doesn't seem to be working... I think I have muted a device somehow when setting up my multimedia buttons on my keyboard [02:25] hi. Why can I not use sudo to put values into /proc files? example: "sudo echo 1 > /proc/whatever" fails with permission denied. I have to "sudo su -" and then change the value to make it work [02:25] anyone know how to help? === riotkittie [n=tracy@cpe-72-228-44-178.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:25] well, sudo is root and it isn't. Some of the fact that it [02:25] ''s you doing it remain. [02:27] ok, still not sure I understand. If sudo allows me to assume root privs for that command, at what point do I lose those privs? [02:28] dunno [02:28] brb [02:28] bbl actually === riotkittie [n=tracy@cpe-72-228-44-178.nycap.res.rr.com] has left #xubuntu [] [02:33] luckyone: any sound yet? === b_52GM [n=skimo@adsl196-32-36-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu [02:38] grazie: not yet, going through the forum post for sound problems [02:38] it has worked before, it just doesn't seem to want to right now [02:39] I think I muted something, but alsamixer says that everything is cool [02:40] if mixer looks good dunno what else to suggest === MagicFab [n=magicfab@ubuntu/member/magicfab] has joined #xubuntu [02:43] bye bye === Shaezsche [n=Shaezsch@24-179-177-189.dhcp.dlth.mn.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:45] is there a cpu clock frequency control app for xubuntu? [02:45] like klaptop for kde, and the powernowd menu thing for gnome === dellfan [n=jasper@85-14-72-13.akk.net.pl] has joined #xubuntu === pygi [n=mario@83-131-72-203.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #xubuntu [02:56] janny around? [02:56] Who is janny? [02:56] xD === SmoothOp [n=SmoothOp@c-71-58-57-168.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has left #xubuntu [] [03:09] could anyone suggest a solution? http://rafb.net/p/RUqIwC52.html im not sure what's wrong here. === dellfan [n=jasper@85-14-72-13.akk.net.pl] has joined #xubuntu [03:11] "do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin" <-- hint === pygi [n=mario@83-131-72-203.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:11] and it seems you're missing a required library [03:12] hmm and as is shown by the ls output.. the library is there. === dellfan [n=jasper@85-14-72-13.akk.net.pl] has joined #xubuntu [03:12] and could you possibly suggest another wya of running it? [03:13] Did you read README-linux.txt? [03:14] "Run ./secondlife from the installation directory to start Second Life." [03:17] Hmm === somerville32 ponders. === kalikiana7 [n=kalikian@xdsl-84-44-178-49.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu [03:18] i know, a bit odd [03:21] i am on amd64, but they library is located in /lib, is there a 32bit version of this library that i can install to /usr/lib32 [03:23] lol [03:23] Does the client support amd64? [03:23] You might have to recompile for amd64 === maxamillion [n=max@r74-192-178-37.htvlcmta01.hnvitx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:26] well no, but it's worked with amd64 if u use the 32bit libraries.. actually i think ive worked out the problem [03:26] the library libuuid.so.1 is in /lib but most of the libraries i seem to be using (and the 32 bit ones) are in /usr/lib and /usr/lib32 respectively === somerville32 nods. [03:27] so.. i suppose i need to find a package for 32bit version of this library === cellofellow [n=josh@209.193.110.39] has joined #xubuntu === kalikiana7 is now known as kalikiana === opie_ [n=opie@cpe-065-190-197-056.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === Jester45 [n=Jester45@207-119-238-53.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu === b_52GM [n=skimo@adsl196-161-40-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust513.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu === yotux [n=yotux@68-115-35-193.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:05] can anyone offer me some assistance with setting up iwconfig or a good howto site [04:06] !wifi [04:06] Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [04:07] Thankz === DarthLappy [n=Angus@pdpc/supporter/student/DarthShrine] has joined #xubuntu === Commander-Crowe [n=thomas@unaffiliated/Commander-Crowe] has joined #xubuntu === xfrost [n=xfrost@200.92.73.100] has joined #xubuntu [04:17] !seen vidd [04:18] maxamillion, see -devel [04:20] somerville32: rgr === priidu [n=priit@58.247.250.244] has joined #xubuntu === somerville32 [n=somervil@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #xubuntu [04:29] Yeah! [04:29] I fixed it :) [04:30] w00t [04:30] what you fix? [04:30] PMCIA issue that was causing hald to eat up all my cpu and eventually cause it to crash and burn [04:31] you post it on sourceforge? [04:32] pr what ever that was [04:32] the bug thingly [04:33] lol [04:33] Yes [04:33] The bug was already there [04:33] i know [04:33] what about how to fix it [04:33] Already there [04:33] o [04:33] I followed the instructions in one of the comments [04:33] so YOU didnt fix [04:34] I fixed my problem, yes [04:34] I didn't come up with the solution though [04:34] you had me beleiving that you did somthing [04:34] well [04:34] i ran about every hdparm options [04:34] testes 4 times [04:35] loged the test [04:35] oh [04:35] I should run that again [04:35] typed it all in the forums [04:35] figured the adverage [04:35] and then posted it and it ever showed up [04:35] my best options are [04:36] -d1 -c1 -a24 -u1 -m16 -A1 [04:36] gave me a top of [04:36] Woot [04:36] I got a much better result now [04:36] 240ish MB/s cache [04:36] Mine isn't that fast [04:36] 30ish mb/s disk read [04:36] I got an old computer [04:36] me to [04:36] untill spring [04:36] im still gonna use this [04:37] i orded more ram its soming on the 11th [04:37] I just got more random around Christmas time [04:37] Two 128mb sticks to replace my two 64mb sticks [04:37] how much now? [04:37] yes i got a 64 an 128 new 128 coming [04:37] 128+128==256 [04:37] and after that i got a 1ghz celeron coming [04:38] then i should be set [04:38] can upgrade it much mor [04:38] have to get new mobo for that [04:39] http://www.hardwareforums.com/these-cpus-compatible-16365/ is my tread about it [04:39] that site is great [04:40] :) [04:40] plus they have cool games [04:40] think you have to be member to play [04:41] lol [04:42] i got a hight score a long time ago and its still there there wasa bug with my flash verson that made the game ez [04:43] it was game that you smash flys with chop sticks [04:43] when the flies start they stop for s sec then start flying [04:43] when with my flash they stoped for more than a second :0 [04:43] so i was killing them b4 they could move === b_52GM [n=skimo@adsl196-204-39-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu === priit_ [n=priit@58.247.250.244] has joined #xubuntu [05:17] im out === Ro_Vai [n=noir@pool-72-65-102-253.ptldme.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:24] hello i'm new to xubuntu is there a way to change the color of the top panel? [05:26] ... easier question how do i change the xubuntu color scheme [05:26] Applications > Settings > User Interface Settings [05:27] thanks === b_52GM [n=skimo@adsl196-30-32-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu === Ro_Vai [n=noir@pool-72-65-102-253.ptldme.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === atarinox [n=atarinox@c-68-83-2-36.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:35] is there a task manager installed in xubuntu by default? and where would i find it? [05:36] atarinox: system->process manager [05:37] ahhh thank you === priit__ [n=priit@210.22.73.21] has joined #xubuntu [05:41] htop rocks [05:43] how do i check what version of xubuntu i'm using? === Jester45 [n=Jester45@207-119-238-53.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:44] Ro_Vai: Look in /etc/issue [05:45] how can you make the launcher button run sudo commands? [05:45] Jester45: use gksudo [05:46] no go [05:46] i tring ot get sudo hdparm -Y /dev/hda to run [05:47] gksudo Terminal something [05:49] !gksudo [05:49] If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using "sudo " [05:49] im not trying to run a gui app [05:49] you can do sudo cli-app and check the terminal option === MagicFab [n=magicfab@ubuntu/member/magicfab] has joined #xubuntu [05:51] oo [05:51] over looked that [05:51] now how does it know my pass [05:51] sudo-caching [05:51] so i have to sudo somthing first [05:52] you could write a script, without sudo in it, set it to owned by root and setuid. Just make sure no one can write to it or you have an easy way to root you. [05:53] to hard [05:54] thanks tho [05:54] just write the script with that command, and then do sudo chown root myscript.sh, sudo chmod 4555 myscript.sh [05:54] :[ [05:58] is xubuntu 7.04 fairly stable yet? [05:59] Meh [05:59] :) [05:59] I'm on 7.04 right now [05:59] There are still some upgrade issues [06:00] It hasn't even hit feature freeze yet. 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(instead of blank screen) === b_52Free [n=skimo@adsl196-230-59-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu [11:19] btw i'm using xubuntu edgy === therapy [n=tommycat@d54C0FF39.access.telenet.be] has left #xubuntu [":wq!"] === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu === b_52Free [n=skimo@adsl196-144-104-217-196.adsl196-12.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu === priidu [n=Priit@210.22.73.21] has joined #xubuntu === kaptengu [n=kaptengu@c213-100-60-132.swipnet.se] has joined #xubuntu === priit_ [n=Priit@210.22.73.21] has joined #xubuntu === tim_ [n=tim@host81-158-14-28.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu === tony_ [n=tony@62-20-210-85-no26.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #xubuntu === grazie [n=grazie@host81-156-23-32.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu === priidu [n=Priit@210.22.73.21] has joined #xubuntu === stift [n=ramiro@p57BA11A0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #xubuntu === b_52Free [n=skimo@adsl196-98-54-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu [01:44] hi [01:44] someone help me to put vnc on an xubuntu === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@dialin108123.justdsl.de] has joined #xubuntu === stift2 [n=ramiro@p57BA128B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #xubuntu [01:55] what name has the winodwmanager of xubuntu [01:55] gdm? [01:56] stift2: I believe that would be xfwm4 [01:56] The window manager is xfwm. gdm is a display manager. === moe_evil [n=patatama@eu85-87-2-82.clientes.euskaltel.es] has joined #xubuntu [01:58] were can i see it [02:02] stift2: doing "which xfwm4" returns "/usr/bin/xfwm4" on my system. === mijndert [n=mijndert@c82014.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #xubuntu === DogLo [n=sander@189.200-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #xubuntu === Zeqfreed [n=artem@217.151.225.44] has joined #xubuntu [02:14] hey guys [02:24] i dont get it runing === gabkdll1 [n=gabriel@dslb-088-073-030-170.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:28] stift2: if you are just trying to run X programs on a remote machine, you could do "ssh -X user@host [command] " [02:29] no.. i just want to setup a xubuntu on a old machine for someone who dont likes windows :) [02:30] but that person dont knows toomuch about linux [02:31] so i will probably need vnc to show him how things go on [02:32] ah, ok. understand. Sorry, I have no experience with vnc myself. === cga [n=cga@213-140-6-101.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsc2 [n=Laibsch@dialin107200.justdsl.de] has joined #xubuntu === g333k_work [n=gonzalo@200.62.245.15] has joined #xubuntu === AL89 [n=alex@Xcb08.x.pppool.de] has joined #xubuntu [02:41] hello guys. which programm would you recommend to rip my cds to .mp3 files? [02:45] AL89: sound-juicer is the default for ubuntu [02:46] i just downloaded ripperX [02:46] is it any good? [02:46] although, id does not handle mp3s by default [02:47] I never used ripperX myself [02:47] okay === Laibsc2 is now known as Laibsch === pike_ [i=pike@server1.freeshells.ch] has joined #xubuntu === Gosty [n=gosty@85.237.228.130] has joined #xubuntu [03:08] Hi can somebody recommend me java compiler? === kaptengu [n=kaptengu@c213-100-60-132.swipnet.se] has joined #xubuntu === tony_ [n=tony@62-20-210-85-no26.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #xubuntu === maxamillion [n=adam@ngl-1-14.shsu.edu] has joined #xubuntu === priit_ [n=Priit@210.22.73.21] has joined #xubuntu === grazie [n=grazie@host86-139-111-230.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu === gripir [n=gripir@p549C9732.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #xubuntu === gripir is now known as gripiR [04:10] gabkdll1, ripperx is quite good. easy to handle and configure. === HeathenDan [n=name@125.212.82.164] has joined #xubuntu === Ro_Vai [n=noir@pool-72-65-102-253.ptldme.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === priit__ [n=Priit@210.22.73.21] has joined #xubuntu === Mattias [n=Mattias@c83-255-10-105.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #xubuntu === rzoz [n=rzoz@70.91.92.158] has joined #xubuntu === nofxx [n=Miranda@201-048-023-043.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br] has joined #xubuntu === gripiR is now known as gripir [04:53] hi... when I close the laptop lid my xubuntu try to hibernate, but it comes back stay on BUT STOP THE CPU COOLER..... now I dont know witch is worse: burn my lap or go back to windows [04:53] please help.. xD === Ro_Vai [n=noir@pool-72-65-102-253.ptldme.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === priidu [n=Priit@210.22.73.21] has joined #xubuntu === Commander-Crowe [n=Robert@unaffiliated/Commander-Crowe] has joined #xubuntu === priit_ [n=Priit@210.22.73.21] has joined #xubuntu === jad_jay [n=jay@fau42-2-82-239-195-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #xubuntu === stork [n=sh2-136@storkey.plus.com] has joined #xubuntu === stork [n=sh2-136@storkey.plus.com] has joined #xubuntu === czer323_ [i=czer323@cpe-24-26-159-208.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === Kreator_ is now known as Kreator === vinze [n=vinze@ip54521ae9.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #xubuntu === Qew [n=qew@82-69-126-225.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === dobbbob [n=dobbbob@24-179-177-189.dhcp.dlth.mn.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [06:03] is there an ap for xubuntu that lets me control clock frequency? and set defaults for ac and battery? === kaptengu [n=kaptengu@c213-100-60-132.swipnet.se] has joined #xubuntu === tony_ [n=tony@62-20-210-85-no26.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #xubuntu === UbuntuSt1ts [n=StatsBot@bl5-85-35.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #xubuntu === AcidBurn [n=rn@cpe-72-184-186-31.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@dialin107200.justdsl.de] has joined #xubuntu === tony_ [n=tony@62-20-210-85-no26.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #xubuntu === quad3datwork is now known as quad3datwork2 === quad3datwork2 is now known as quad3datwork === quad3datwork is now known as quad3datwork2 === tony_ [n=tony@62-20-210-85-no26.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #xubuntu === tony_ [n=tony@62-20-210-85-no26.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #xubuntu === tony_ [n=tony@62-20-210-85-no26.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #xubuntu === maxamillion [n=adam@ngl-1-14.shsu.edu] has joined #xubuntu === grazie [n=grazie@host86-139-111-230.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu === pike_ [i=pike@server1.freeshells.ch] has left #xubuntu [] === AcidBurn [n=rn@cpe-72-184-186-31.tampabay.res.rr.com] has left #xubuntu [] === soumyadip [n=soumyadi@59.93.201.188] has joined #xubuntu === kaptengu [n=kaptengu@c213-100-60-132.swipnet.se] has joined #xubuntu === bigfuzzyjesus [n=paul@12.206.21.84] has joined #xubuntu === age6racer [n=age6race@87.117.110.160] has joined #xubuntu [07:28] hey all, quick question... I am running Xubuntu on a PIII 600mhz laptop with 128mb Ram, will installing Wine slow the system down much? or will it just be when I run windows apps? === maxamillion [n=adam@ngl-1-14.shsu.edu] has joined #xubuntu [07:32] age6racer if you can add a little more ram you should be fine [07:32] age6racer: no, it will just be used for running windows apps -- unless you want to use a daemonized version of wine [07:32] age6racer: you can always remove the wine daemon from startup [07:37] ok thanks guys [07:37] I'm planning to add some more ram (take it upto 320mb) === Commander-Crowe [n=Robert@unaffiliated/Commander-Crowe] has joined #xubuntu === MagicFab [n=magicfab@ubuntu/member/magicfab] has joined #xubuntu === Rageagainstthis [n=rage@207-118-103-178.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:04] is there a launcher function in xubuntu like ubuntu? === starvingstudent [n=chatzill@cpe-065-188-057-098.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [08:08] Rageagainstthis: what do you mean by launcher? Something to start applications? [08:08] or a series of commands in terminal [08:09] I'm a bit confused. I was trying to install VMware through the Add/Remove Applications...anyways it didn't complete and I now get an error. [08:10] vmware player or server? [08:11] player [08:11] how far into the install did you get? [08:11] I think it installed 3 of the 4 sections. [08:11] are you using 6.06? [08:11] Unsure to be honest. Went away and came back ~.~ [08:11] Nah. I'm using 6.10 edgy [08:12] interesting, what kind of error do you get? [08:12] "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. " [08:12] Thats a bit confusing. Care to explain? I'd really like to know what that means o.0 [08:13] i have never run into that error before actually. Ive always used vmware server myself [08:14] Hrmmm. [08:14] well i suppose you can manually run the .deb package with dpkg [08:14] I guess I'll have to. [08:14] or you can try automatix2 it has vmwareplayer on there [08:14] hrmmm === Devil_Kin [i=devilkin@unaffiliated/DevilKin] has joined #xubuntu [08:16] I tried to run dpkg --configure a in a terminal and it keeps saying "requires superuser privilege" I need to be logged in as root? :p [08:16] hey folks, did anything break with one of the recent updates to edgy xubuntu? even xfce-mcs-manager crashes with a segfault [08:16] sudo yes [08:21] nm, seems xfce4-mcs-plugins got b0rked === Devil_Kin [i=devilkin@unaffiliated/DevilKin] has left #xubuntu ["Please] [08:21] lol...man...I think I should just stick to the search function on the forums. :p === maxamillion [n=adam@ngl-1-14.shsu.edu] has joined #xubuntu === T`2 [i=total@pdpc/supporter/student/T] has joined #xubuntu === b_52Centos [n=skimo@adsl196-63-27-217-196.adsl196-9.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsc1 [n=Laibsch@87-193-28-246.dpool.celox.de] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsc1 is now known as Laibsch === b_52Free [n=skimo@adsl196-169-42-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu === ChaKy [n=chaky@20-160.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #xubuntu === natira [n=eddie@pool-162-83-215-105.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:55] hi [08:55] de3sperate\ [08:55] :-( [08:55] WTF!! [08:55] i ain't got no borders [08:56] can't move windows around [08:56] I go to setting and click window manager and I get an error [08:57] "These settings cannot work with your current window manager (unknown) [08:57] natira: alt+f2 ... put "xfwm4" in the run dialogue that will pop up and click 'run' [08:57] natira: press alt+ctrl+f1 [08:57] also windows manger tweaks aaint working [08:58] natira: then log in there [08:58] natira: type 'export DISPLAY=:0' [08:58] natira: and then xfwm4 === gabkdll1 [n=gabriel@dslb-088-073-030-170.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #xubuntu [] === natiro [n=eddie@pool-162-83-215-105.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [09:02] hi [09:02] ok this all weird [09:03] no w I am in gnome and backspace isnt working [09:03] natira: nowehre, or only in terminal? [09:03] and gnome terminal doesn't work [09:03] I've tried on ly on terminal [09:04] what the hell happened? [09:04] I don't know about gnome terminal, but Terminal has an option on what should backspace do, in the preferences [09:04] by the way I am fixin... nothing to do with that it was working fine with xubuntu [09:05] now how come I sitll have gnome? I thought IU;'ve remove it all [09:05] natira: let me get my tea to do a little auguring :) [09:05] and is there a waty to fix Xubuntu? [09:05] natira: what's broken? [09:05] eveyrything is working fine except I don';t have border therefore unable to move windows around [09:05] natira: ah, your xfwm4 didn't start [09:06] natira: you need to run it somehow and save the session on logout [09:06] the freaking border then just a few seconds ago someone told me to to do ctrl+alt+f1 I dpon't konw why but I did start x and I am ein Gnome now [09:06] natira: make sure it is installed [09:06] ohhh... I think the hateful daughetr of my friend th did this shieet [09:06] natira: I old you to press alt+ctrlf1, to swithc to text terminal so that you can run xfwm4 from there [09:07] now I ,,... and you ;-) got to fix this ehshieeat [09:07] ohh I got it... no for running startx [09:07] ROFL!!! [09:07] ok so I kill X now? [09:07] start that one [09:07] and go back to where if F1 is the fisr thing === somerville32 [n=somervil@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #xubuntu [09:09] I don't follow you :? [09:12] hi [09:12] I am still in here lol [09:12] ok [09:12] I don [09:12] 't have border at all [09:13] and when i try to type in window manager in the settings tells me cannot be used [09:13] and Window Manager Tweaks [09:13] so I am screw [09:13] natira: you have to run xfwm4, didn't you try that? [09:13] says this window cannot work with your current window manager [09:13] i did [09:13] natira: the wm settings and tweaks won't work if xfwm4 is not running [09:14] gives me an error couln't start some GTK thing [09:14] natira: then that's what's broken [09:14] ok let me see again [09:14] (xfwm4:5591): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: [09:15] what the heck [09:15] natira: type 'export DISPLAY=:0' [09:15] natira: and try again [09:16] did not work [09:16] natira: what did it say? [09:16] man f@$% gnome didn't uninstall completeley [09:16] (xfwm4:5595): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: [09:17] yo man... all this is his daughter's fault [09:17] :-( [09:17] 'cause she says she hates linux [09:17] but her father loves it [09:18] natira: What version of Xubuntu are you using? [09:18] I've gotta open a new user for her to screw up as much as she wants without affecting her father's account [09:18] how can I find out? [09:18] cat /etc/issue [09:19] 'cause I can't get to the menus without ending this conversation [09:19] Ubuntu 6.10 \n \l === Maximilian1st [n=maximili@19.37.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #xubuntu === Maximilian1st Hi all. [09:20] i have the suspicion that some gnome shit is getting on the way. for instance how come I can run Gnome windows? [09:20] do: [09:21] sudo apt-get -f install [09:21] install what? [09:22] I did remove gnome-desktop so I do'nt konw why the Gnome WM still there [09:22] anyone? [09:23] ... [09:23] Are you at the command line? [09:23] somerville32: ok doing the commmand that you told me [09:23] yeah on the other tab [09:23] and did what you've told me [09:23] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 53 not upgraded. [09:24] What do you mean by other tab? [09:24] on the terminal [09:25] Ok [09:25] got two windows [09:25] now? [09:25] :-( [09:25] Are you running Gnome or Xfce4 right now? [09:25] Xfce4 now without Windows Manager, it wont' start [09:25] and i wanna get rid of Gnome [09:25] is giving me issues === b_52GM [n=skimo@41.248.1.116] has joined #xubuntu === Maddog [n=colin@cpc3-cowc2-0-0-cust671.renf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu [09:26] how do i get rid of evolution? [09:27] what about my xfce4 window manager? [09:27] what can I do to restore it? [09:28] Is it beryl in Xubuntu Edgy? [09:28] naaa [09:28] plain Xubuntu [09:28] yaiks! [09:28] is evolution part of Xubuntu? [09:28] I just removed it [09:29] natira, There might be a dependiec. Did you check that? === Maddog [n=colin@cpc3-cowc2-0-0-cust671.renf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu [09:29] nope === grazie [n=grazie@host86-139-111-230.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu [09:30] natira, You're pretty new at Linux right? [09:30] mmm... new to @#$@#$ kuxubuntu [09:30] i ran GEntoo [09:30] run [09:30] no clue about what the heck is going on in here [09:31] natira, I'm thinking here. [09:31] thanks [09:31] natira, I'm trying to help. [09:31] natira, I recommend reinstalling. You can just remove random packages. :S [09:31] now the guy is rushing me [09:31] reinstalling how? [09:31] Natira: Which guy? [09:31] what part do I have to reinstall? [09:31] guy's computer [09:32] You're just uninstalling random crap on some guy's computer? [09:32] I am just trying to fix this for him [09:32] mm... I figured evolution wasn't part of xubuntu [09:32] isn't it? [09:33] god [09:33] Natira: It isn't [09:33] somerville32, I accidently remove packages that the kernel needed. But I have all the stuffs to a new computer, but I have installed everything yet. I might give Xfce another chance now. Is it Beryl in Edgy Eft? [09:34] Zambezi, I'm not sure what you mean. [09:34] ok how what should be my NEXT STEP [09:34] for sanities sake [09:34] somerville32, I liked Xubuntu, but its memoryleak isn't that hot. [09:34] Zambezi: Edgy doesn't have that many memory leaks. Feisty is fine. [09:35] memory leak? [09:36] somerville32, I messed up my installation too. I wasn't careful enough and didn't read which packages I also erased. You know, you delete one and apt-get wants too delete more packages. And I kind of removed an important packages, so if I reboot I won't be able to start the computer. :-) [09:37] please [09:37] somerville32, But since I got a new computer, it doesn't matter. I just have to bukild it. [09:37] how can i fix xubuntu!! [09:37] can I reinstall xfwm? [09:37] natira, At first, you need patient. [09:38] ok [09:38] but I mean Xfc4 is running fine === Jenesis [n=linuxica@218.Red-88-19-2.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu [09:38] it's only that I don't have the borders === Jenesis [n=linuxica@218.Red-88-19-2.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #xubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] === rzoz_ [n=rzoz@70.91.92.158] has joined #xubuntu [09:38] somerville32, Do you run Xubuntu Feisty? [09:39] Yup [09:39] what's the package for xfwm?? [09:39] may I reisntall it? [09:39] yup to me? [09:39] nope [09:40] Zamezi: Ok, just download the ISO and install :) [09:40] natira: Are you _sure_ you are running Xfce4? [09:40] At the login screen, did you click sessions and then xfce4? [09:40] What are you trying to accomplish? [09:40] yes [09:41] ok I will log in again 'cause it was my cluelesslesslesslesslessless that logged int [09:41] *in === Maddog [n=colin@cpc3-cowc2-0-0-cust671.renf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu [09:43] ok I am loggin in again [09:43] ... === Maddog [n=colin@cpc3-cowc2-0-0-cust671.renf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu === Maddog [n=colin@cpc3-cowc2-0-0-cust671.renf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu === therapy [n=tommycat@d54C0FF39.access.telenet.be] has joined #xubuntu === DarthLappy [n=Angus@pdpc/supporter/student/DarthShrine] has joined #xubuntu === therapy [n=tommycat@d54C0FF39.access.telenet.be] has left #xubuntu [":wq!"] === Jenesis [n=linuxica@218.Red-88-19-2.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu [09:55] hi [09:55] Hi :) [09:56] hello === pinehillman [n=fangtao@203-100-217-26.jetbuster.co.nz] has joined #xubuntu [09:56] I want a aplicattion to record video from my webcam and save it in avi or mpg format [09:56] can you give me advice? [09:58] I'm using vlc but the archives seems to be no compatible whith youtube [09:58] sorry my english is not very good [10:01] Hmmm [10:02] a good tuto of vlc will do too. [10:02] the vlc page is a little caothic === Taram [n=chatzill@i577B9010.versanet.de] has joined #xubuntu [10:06] Of course I can record my videos directly in youtube, download them with unplug and convert them with ffmpeg... but.. I'd prefer to use a linux aplicattion. [10:07] Jenesis: http://www.kinodv.org/article/static/2 ... try that application .. its in the repositories and you can install it with apt-get, aptitude, or synaptic [10:07] thanks :) [10:10] Jenesis: no problem :) === merhojt [n=Jimmy@h75n2c1o885.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #xubuntu === atarinox [n=atarinox@c-68-83-2-36.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [10:14] can somebody recommend some good software for receiving podcasts? [10:17] iPodder === maxamillion didn't know ... sorry [10:17] iPodder : iPodder is a GUI-driven podcast receiver, allowing users to download and listen to Internet audio programs. [10:18] !iPodder [10:18] :) [10:18] Hmm... === maxamillion waits for ubotu === somerville32 pokes Ubugtu. [10:18] Or yeah [10:18] lol [10:18] ubotu [10:18] :) [10:19] ubotu: hello? [10:19] hello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB [10:19] bah! [10:19] ubotu: iPodder? [10:19] ermmm... [10:19] !info iPodder [10:19] ipodder: a podcast receiver. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.9-5 (edgy), package size 640 kB, installed size 2648 kB [10:19] is it relatively lightweight? [10:21] Not sure :] === maxamillion has no clue ... never heard of it until now [10:28] Where is kalikiana? [10:29] !seen kalikiana [10:29] I last saw kalikiana (n=kalikian@xdsl-84-44-178-49.netcologne.de) 8h 54m 36s ago, quiting: ""And Jesus said unto John: 'Come forth, I will give you eternal life!'. Unfortunately, John came fifth... he won a toaster."" [10:29] it's a bot !! [10:29] I like bots !! [10:29] Jenesis: yes ... yes it is :) ... ubotu and Ubugtu are bots [10:29] :D [10:30] hi ubotu [10:31] it does not answer? [10:33] It isn't smart [10:33] It isn't for chatting with [10:33] ops [10:34] :) [10:34] kino no supports input from v4l I'm afraid... [10:35] just from an arhive [10:35] thanks anyway :) [10:36] I have to go Bye ! === Jenesis [n=linuxica@218.Red-88-19-2.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #xubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-20-13.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === madness [n=jfranji@83-131-66-9.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #xubuntu === SamRose [n=chatzill@c-71-197-25-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === PirateHead [n=ubuntu@mdsnwikwbas08-pool23-a28.mdsnwikw.tds.net] has joined #xubuntu [11:00] xubuntu Edgy just somehow cut power to my USB ports [11:00] how do I turn them back on? [11:02] :S [11:02] Sounds like a hardware issue to me === PirateHead [n=ubuntu@mdsnwikwbas08-pool23-a28.mdsnwikw.tds.net] has left #xubuntu [] === Jester45 [n=Jester45@207-119-238-53.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [11:10] how can i cheack what mother board i have without opening the computer and looking becuase that didnt work [11:14] You can't [11:14] Open it up again [11:14] There should be a model number on it [11:14] yes i tried that but cant find anything about it [11:16] maybe i read it wrong becuase it was dime light and small text [11:17] brb === dellfan [n=jasper@85-14-72-13.akk.net.pl] has joined #xubuntu === quad3datwork2 [n=quad3dat@12.110.209.75] has joined #xubuntu === b_52GM [n=skimo@41.248.3.242] has joined #xubuntu === Commander-Crowe [n=Robert@unaffiliated/Commander-Crowe] has joined #xubuntu === Maximilian1st Is going to try to sleep, good night to all of you. === somerville32 waves. === nalioth [i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth] has joined #xubuntu === Jester45 [n=Jester45@207-119-238-53.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu === RememberPOL [n=pol@pdanilov.student.iastate.edu] has joined #xubuntu [12:16] So... if I shut down my laptop while the AC charging cable is plugged in, it hangs on halt (no matter if APCI is disabled)... But if I shut down _without_ the AC charging cable plugged in, it completely shuts down just fine. Any ideas why this might be so? === HeathenDan [n=blarg@125.212.82.164] has joined #xubuntu