[12:27] <Commander-Crowe> Maximilian1st, I'm sure that you guys have logs
[12:28] <TheSheep> it would be nice to have more xfce-ish looks in feisty by default
[12:28] <pepik> ok went through network-admin with gk sudo, but its weird. wireless network not configured, so i click properties, tick enable, set a hexadecimal passwork, its already on DHCP, so I click OK and it still says not configured. if i go back into ath0 properties, its not enabled but the hex password is in there.
[12:28] <TheSheep> with centered large panel at the bottom and icons on the desktop
[12:28] <Maximilian1st> Commander-Crowe, you want to see these? Where to post?
[12:29] <TheSheep> kalikiana: lets for a pressure group! :)
[12:30] <TheSheep> form
[12:30] <Maximilian1st> xfce-look.org?
[12:30] <somerville32> I have the weirdest issue.
[12:30] <Commander-Crowe> Maximilian1st, pastebin.ca
[12:30] <somerville32> Top is telling me that I have several processes running
[12:30] <somerville32> lol
[12:31] <kalikiana> That's not unusual, someville32
[12:31] <somerville32> It says I have 8-9
[12:31] <pepik> wifi-radar is showing two networks.
[12:31] <somerville32> Thats weird.
[12:31] <maxamillion> somerville32: run htop ;)
[12:31] <TheSheep> somerville32: what does ps auxwww say?
[12:31] <somerville32> TheSheep: a lot
[12:32] <TheSheep> somerville32: looks like you have a lot of processes running :D
[12:32] <somerville32> Tasks: 104 total,   9 running,  94 sleeping,   0 stopped,   1 zombie
[12:39] <Maximilian1st> pepik, mine is not enabled neither but works.
[12:44] <Maximilian1st> Good night all.
[12:44] <Maximilian1st> It's getting late in good old europe.
[12:46] <somerville32> Hmmm
[12:46] <somerville32> ivman is using up 60% of my cpu cycles
[12:47] <somerville32> udevd is using up 20%
[12:47] <somerville32> I think... there is an issue
[12:47] <maxamillion> kill ivman!!!! :P
[12:47] <somerville32> Something is happening
[12:47] <somerville32> I think even spamming
[12:47] <somerville32> *event
[12:47] <somerville32> or something
[12:48] <maxamillion> process spam ... gotta love it
[12:48] <pepi1> anyone know wifi-radar here
[12:48] <maxamillion> what's up?
[12:48] <pepi1> ha thought you'd left.
[12:49] <pepi1> i thought i had the connection so i unplugged. wrong.
[12:49] <TheSheep> somerville32: see dmesg
[12:49] <maxamillion> pepi1: yeah, i did leave ... left work, came home ... signed back on :)
[12:49] <somerville32> haa!
[12:49] <somerville32> found it!!
[12:49] <maxamillion> somerville32: rock on ... what is it?
[12:50] <somerville32> [ 4401.891300]  Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found.
[12:50] <somerville32> [ 4402.039197]  Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found.
[12:50] <somerville32> [ 4402.195551]  Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found.
[12:50] <somerville32> [ 4402.379546]  Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found.
[12:50] <somerville32> [ 4402.524020]  Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found.
[12:50] <somerville32> Over and over and over and over and over
[12:50] <maxamillion> told you ... fork hemorage
[12:50] <pepi1> so wifi-radar: if you chose use WPA, it has a box where you enter the driver. on the homepage the sample screenshot shows "ipw" in this box. do you know what they are talking about?
[12:51] <maxamillion> ohhh, yeah ... not at all ... wpa is a pain and i normally only use wifi in coffee shops and on campus, both are unsecure
[12:53] <pepi1> cool app though, if only i knew what this wpa driver was.
[12:53] <maxamillion> !ipw
[12:53] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:53] <maxamillion> hrmmm
[12:53] <maxamillion> !info ipw
[12:54] <ubotu> Package ipw does not exist in any distro I know
[12:54] <pepi1> otherwise i have mode=auto, channel=auto, key= {wpa key}, security open, DHCP, no connection commands.
[12:55] <somerville32> maxamillion, Any idea how to fix it?
[12:56] <maxamillion> nope, i haven't tried wpa ....
[12:56] <maxamillion> :(
[12:57] <pepi1> ah well. somehow i got it to work in SuSE 10.1, didn't actually do anything special though. Just got lucky i guess.
[12:59] <maxamillion> possible ... not sure though, does it not mention anything about the wpa driver in the wiki docs anywhere?
[01:00] <pepi1> no, it does mention the wpa supplicant though.
[01:01] <maxamillion> yeah ... i have heard good things about wpa supplicant but i know nothing about it
[01:02] <pepi1> quick question - if i unplug the network cable i lose the connection. how do i reconnect it without logging in and out?
[01:04] <pepi1> also thanks for the help so far... just have a bad feeling i am about to crash something!
[01:05] <maxamillion> pepi1: sudo dhclient
[01:05] <maxamillion> pepi1: assuming you use dhcp
[01:06] <pepi1> yes i do.
[01:07] <pepi1> essid - it that the name of my box, like SpeedTouchXYZ123?
[01:07] <cellofellow> no, that's the wifi signal name.
[01:09] <pepi1> it wants me to "wpa_passphrase NetworkEssid" but i don't think i set an essid.
[01:10] <cellofellow> impossible. networks need an essid. some don't broadcast it, making the network "invisible" but it
[01:10] <cellofellow> still there
[01:12] <somerville32> Ok
[01:12] <somerville32> I think I found the issue :)
[01:12] <pepi1> where would i find it?
[01:12] <somerville32> maxamillion, Bug #74271
[01:12] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 74271 in hal "hald uses all of the cpu" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/74271
[01:12] <cellofellow> router configs should have the essid in there somewhere.
[01:13] <pepi1> i see ssid, but not essid
[01:13] <cellofellow> same thing in practice
[01:14] <pepi1> ok thanks
[01:14] <maxamillion> i gotta run
[01:15] <maxamillion> need food
[01:34] <Jester45> would anyone here that has a simi new hardrive run sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/hda (the hda might need to change)
[01:34] <Jester45> its only timing things it doent change anythin
[01:35] <TheSheep>  Timing cached reads:   598 MB in  2.00 seconds = 298.56 MB/sec
[01:35] <TheSheep>  Timing buffered disk reads:  168 MB in  3.01 seconds =  55.76 MB/sec
[01:35] <TheSheep> pretty slow :/
[01:36] <Jester45> thanks and whats about sudo hdparm /dev/hda
[01:36] <somerville32> :] 
[01:36] <TheSheep>  IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)
[01:36] <TheSheep>  readonly     =  0 (off)
[01:36] <TheSheep>  readahead    = 256 (on)
[01:36] <TheSheep>  geometry     = 9729/255/63, sectors = 156301488, start = 0
[01:36] <Jester45> im just wondering about other driver compared to mine
[01:37] <TheSheep> hmm.. I should enable 32-bit support
[01:37] <somerville32> /dev/hda:
[01:37] <somerville32>  Timing cached reads:    72 MB in  2.07 seconds =  34.83 MB/sec
[01:37] <somerville32>  Timing buffered disk reads:   26 MB in  3.10 seconds =   8.38 MB/sec
[01:37] <Jester45> do it if you want
[01:37] <Jester45> wow somerville32 that cache is slow
[01:37] <somerville32> Thats my old HD
[01:37] <somerville32> This is my new HD:
[01:37] <somerville32> /dev/hdc:
[01:37] <somerville32>  Timing cached reads:    58 MB in  2.04 seconds =  28.47 MB/sec
[01:37] <somerville32>  Timing buffered disk reads:   26 MB in  3.11 seconds =   8.36 MB/sec
[01:37] <somerville32> lol
[01:37] <somerville32> Even slower
[01:38] <Jester45> own in the face
[01:38] <Jester45> lol
[01:38] <somerville32> Oh wait
[01:38] <TheSheep>  setting 32-bit IO_support flag to 1
[01:38] <TheSheep>  HDIO_SET_32BIT failed: Invalid argument
[01:38] <TheSheep> O.o
[01:38] <somerville32> Jester45: Those are most likely scewed
[01:38] <Jester45> how so
[01:38] <Jester45> useing lots of harddriver?
[01:38] <somerville32> Bug #74271
[01:38] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 74271 in hal "hald uses all of the cpu" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/74271
[01:38] <somerville32> I need to reboot
[01:39] <somerville32> hald is using up all my juice right now
[01:39] <cellofellow> hald? what you got plugged in?
[01:39] <somerville32> Look at the bug :P
[01:39] <Jester45>  Timing cached reads:   316 MB in  2.02 seconds = 156.56 MB/sec
[01:39] <Jester45>  Timing buffered disk reads:   52 MB in  3.10 seconds =  16.80 MB/sec for me
[01:39] <Jester45> i like teh cache not the real read time
[01:40] <cellofellow> k
[01:44] <cellofellow> grrr. I dunno what it is but whenever I close Firefox with a tab with a signed-in Google page, when I start up firefox again the cookie that saves the login has vanished and I HAVE to log in again. I'd rather it stayed logged in.
[01:45] <Jester45> maybe the first tim you tried you told ff to never save the cookie
[01:46] <Jester45> *time
[01:46] <cellofellow> no, I didn't do that. If I close the tab with Google in it, and then close firefox, next session, I get treated to my Personalized Homepage.
[01:47] <cellofellow> well, it is actually swiftfox if that makes any difference.
[01:47] <Jester45> might
[01:48] <cellofellow> I've taken to using the CheckGmail button in the system tray to launch swiftfox cause it provides the login data somehow.
[01:48] <cellofellow> I do have about 2 Gmail extensions and 2 or 3 Gmail greasemonkey scripts.
[01:49] <Jester45> TheSheep: you have to set 32bit with the -c3 flag
[01:49] <TheSheep> Jester45: thanks
[01:49] <Jester45> i think
[01:49] <TheSheep> setting 32-bit IO_support flag to 3 HDIO_SET_32BIT failed: Invalid argument
[01:49] <Jester45> what command are yo-u running
[01:50] <TheSheep> Jester45: maybe my drive/controller just doesn't support it
[01:50] <Jester45> sud hdparm -c3 /dev/drive ?
[01:50] <TheSheep> sheep@ghostwheel:~$ sudo hdparm -c4 /dev/sda
[01:50] <TheSheep> ouch, c3
[01:50] <Jester45> i think it has to be a ide driver
[01:51] <TheSheep> Jester45: it *is* an ide drive
[01:52] <Jester45> ok
[01:52] <TheSheep> Jester45: 2.6.20 kernels see them as sata
[01:52] <Jester45> o really
[01:52] <TheSheep> Jester45: they are planning to drop ide entirely
[01:52] <Jester45> no!!!
[01:52] <cellofellow> what? that's all I have.
[01:52] <Jester45> i them
[01:53] <Jester45> whats teh tranferspeed of a ide cable like 350mbs?
[01:53] <cellofellow> well, if all that means once I get a copy of that kernel is that devices will no longer have the hd prefix, I don't really care.
[01:53] <TheSheep> cellofellow: that's pretty much all from the user's standpoint
[01:55] <cellofellow> I know IDE is being fazed out, but I thought SATA support was to shaky to totally stand behind it like that.
[01:56] <TheSheep> cellofellow: it's more scsi
[01:56] <TheSheep> cellofellow: I think they are seen as scsi
[01:56] <cellofellow> I've noticed USB drives show as sd. so does that meen that they are seen as virtual scsi drives or something?
[01:57] <Jester45> ima brb gonna test whe only cli so i can get top speed
[01:58] <TheSheep> cellofellow: yes
[01:58] <cellofellow> ok
[02:00] <cellofellow> Yippeee. I love the GIMP.
[02:00] <cellofellow> I've used it since before linux. And OpenOffice and Firefox too.
[02:11] <cellofellow> Is there a way to use the Tango icons with Qt apps? They look so outlandish with the Crystal icons.
[02:15] <cellofellow> changing the symlink /usr/share/icons/default.kde from crystalsvg to Tango didn't work.
[02:25] <luckyone> my sound doesn't seem to be working... I think I have muted a device somehow when setting up my multimedia buttons on my keyboard
[02:25] <darrend_laptop> hi.  Why can I not use sudo to put values into /proc files?  example: "sudo echo 1 > /proc/whatever" fails with permission denied.  I have to "sudo su -" and then change the value to make it work
[02:25] <luckyone> anyone know how to help?
[02:25] <cellofellow> well, sudo is root and it isn't. Some of the fact that it
[02:25] <cellofellow> ''s you doing it remain.
[02:27] <darrend_laptop> ok, still not sure I understand.  If sudo allows me to assume root privs for that command, at what point do I lose those privs?
[02:28] <cellofellow> dunno
[02:28] <cellofellow> brb
[02:28] <cellofellow> bbl actually
[02:33] <grazie> luckyone: any sound yet?
[02:38] <luckyone> grazie: not yet, going through the forum post for sound problems
[02:38] <luckyone> it has worked before, it just doesn't seem to want to right now
[02:39] <luckyone> I think I muted something, but alsamixer says that everything is cool
[02:40] <grazie> if mixer looks good dunno what else to suggest
[02:43] <cellofellow> bye bye
[02:45] <Shaezsche> is there a cpu clock frequency control app for xubuntu?
[02:45] <Shaezsche> like klaptop for kde, and the powernowd menu thing for gnome
[02:56] <pygi> janny around?
[02:56] <somerville32> Who is janny?
[02:56] <pygi> xD
[03:09] <archangelpetro> could anyone suggest a solution?  http://rafb.net/p/RUqIwC52.html  im not sure what's wrong here.
[03:11] <somerville32> "do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin" <-- hint
[03:11] <somerville32> and it seems you're missing a required library
[03:12] <archangelpetro> hmm and as is shown by the ls output.. the library is there.
[03:12] <archangelpetro> and could you possibly suggest another wya of running it?
[03:13] <somerville32> Did you read README-linux.txt?
[03:14] <archangelpetro> "Run ./secondlife from the installation directory to start Second Life."
[03:17] <somerville32> Hmm
[03:18] <archangelpetro> i know, a bit odd
[03:21] <archangelpetro> i am on amd64, but they library is located in /lib, is there a 32bit version of this library that i can install to /usr/lib32
[03:23] <somerville32> lol
[03:23] <somerville32> Does the client support amd64?
[03:23] <somerville32> You might have to recompile for amd64
[03:26] <archangelpetro> well no, but it's worked with amd64 if u use the 32bit libraries.. actually i think ive worked out the problem
[03:26] <archangelpetro> the library libuuid.so.1  is in /lib   but most of the libraries i seem to be using (and the 32 bit ones) are in /usr/lib and /usr/lib32 respectively
[03:27] <archangelpetro> so.. i suppose i need to find a package for 32bit version of this library
[04:05] <yotux> can anyone offer me some assistance with setting up iwconfig or a good howto site
[04:06] <TheSheep> !wifi
[04:06] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:07] <yotux> Thankz
[04:17] <maxamillion> !seen vidd
[04:18] <somerville32> maxamillion, see -devel
[04:20] <maxamillion> somerville32: rgr
[04:29] <somerville32> Yeah!
[04:29] <somerville32> I fixed it :)
[04:30] <Jester45> w00t
[04:30] <Jester45> what you fix?
[04:30] <somerville32> PMCIA issue that was causing hald to eat up all my cpu and eventually cause it to crash and burn
[04:31] <Jester45> you post it on sourceforge?
[04:32] <Jester45> pr what ever that was
[04:32] <Jester45> the bug thingly
[04:33] <somerville32> lol
[04:33] <somerville32> Yes
[04:33] <somerville32> The bug was already there
[04:33] <Jester45> i know
[04:33] <Jester45> what about how to fix it
[04:33] <somerville32> Already there
[04:33] <Jester45> o
[04:33] <somerville32> I followed the instructions in one of the comments
[04:33] <Jester45> so YOU didnt fix
[04:34] <somerville32> I fixed my problem, yes
[04:34] <somerville32> I didn't come up with the solution though
[04:34] <Jester45> you had me beleiving that you did somthing
[04:34] <Jester45> well
[04:34] <Jester45> i ran about every hdparm options
[04:34] <Jester45> testes 4 times
[04:35] <Jester45> loged the test
[04:35] <somerville32> oh
[04:35] <somerville32> I should run that again
[04:35] <Jester45> typed it all in the forums
[04:35] <Jester45> figured the adverage
[04:35] <Jester45> and then posted it and it ever showed up
[04:35] <Jester45> my best options are
[04:36] <Jester45> -d1 -c1 -a24 -u1 -m16 -A1
[04:36] <Jester45> gave me a top of
[04:36] <somerville32> Woot
[04:36] <somerville32> I got a much better result now
[04:36] <Jester45> 240ish MB/s cache
[04:36] <somerville32> Mine isn't that fast
[04:36] <Jester45> 30ish mb/s disk read
[04:36] <somerville32> I got an old computer
[04:36] <Jester45> me to
[04:36] <Jester45> untill spring
[04:36] <Jester45> im still gonna use this
[04:37] <Jester45> i orded more ram its soming on the 11th
[04:37] <somerville32> I just got more random around Christmas time
[04:37] <somerville32> Two 128mb sticks to replace my two 64mb sticks
[04:37] <Jester45> how much now?
[04:37] <Jester45> yes i got a 64 an 128 new 128 coming
[04:37] <somerville32> 128+128==256
[04:37] <Jester45> and after that i got a 1ghz celeron coming
[04:38] <Jester45> then i should be set
[04:38] <Jester45> can upgrade it much mor
[04:38] <Jester45> have to get new mobo for that
[04:39] <Jester45> http://www.hardwareforums.com/these-cpus-compatible-16365/ is my tread about it
[04:39] <Jester45> that site is great
[04:40] <somerville32> :)
[04:40] <Jester45> plus they have cool games
[04:40] <Jester45> think you have to be member to play
[04:41] <somerville32> lol
[04:42] <Jester45> i got a hight score a long time ago and its still there there wasa bug with my flash verson that made the game ez
[04:43] <Jester45> it was game that you smash flys with chop sticks
[04:43] <Jester45> when the flies start they stop for s sec then start flying
[04:43] <Jester45> when with my flash they stoped for more than a second :0
[04:43] <Jester45> so i was killing them b4 they could move
[05:17] <Jester45> im out
[05:24] <Ro_Vai> hello i'm new to xubuntu is there a way to change the color of the top panel?
[05:26] <Ro_Vai> ... easier question how do i change the xubuntu color scheme
[05:26] <somerville32> Applications > Settings > User Interface Settings
[05:27] <Ro_Vai> thanks
[05:35] <atarinox> is there a task manager installed in xubuntu by default? and where would i find it?
[05:36] <TheSheep> atarinox: system->process manager
[05:37] <atarinox> ahhh thank you
[05:41] <cellofellow> htop rocks
[05:43] <Ro_Vai> how do i check what version of xubuntu i'm using?
[05:44] <somerville32> Ro_Vai: Look in /etc/issue
[05:45] <Jester45> how can you make the launcher button run sudo commands?
[05:45] <TheSheep> Jester45: use gksudo
[05:46] <Jester45> no go
[05:46] <Jester45> i tring ot get sudo hdparm -Y /dev/hda to run
[05:47] <cellofellow> gksudo Terminal something
[05:49] <Jester45> !gksudo
[05:49] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using "sudo <GUI-application>"
[05:49] <Jester45> im not trying to run a gui app
[05:49] <cellofellow> you can do sudo cli-app and check the terminal option
[05:51] <Jester45> oo
[05:51] <Jester45> over looked that
[05:51] <Jester45> now how does it know my pass
[05:51] <cellofellow> sudo-caching
[05:51] <Jester45> so i have to sudo somthing first
[05:52] <cellofellow> you could write a script, without sudo in it, set it to owned by root and setuid. Just make sure no one can write to it or you have an easy way to root you.
[05:53] <Jester45> to hard
[05:54] <Jester45> thanks tho
[05:54] <cellofellow> just write the script with that command, and then do sudo chown root myscript.sh, sudo chmod 4555 myscript.sh
[05:54] <cellofellow> :[
[05:58] <Ro_Vai> is xubuntu 7.04 fairly stable yet?
[05:59] <somerville32> Meh
[05:59] <somerville32> :)
[05:59] <somerville32> I'm on 7.04 right now
[05:59] <somerville32> There are still some upgrade issues
[06:00] <PuMpErNiCkLe> It hasn't even hit feature freeze yet.
[06:02] <somerville32> Yeah, there are updates to download every day
[06:02] <Ro_Vai> ya I just upgraded recently
[06:03] <Ro_Vai> i'm thinking of installing beryl
[11:19] <therapy> does anyone in here know how to make a my laptop go into suspend mode when the lid is closed? (instead of blank screen)
[11:19] <therapy> btw i'm using xubuntu edgy
[01:44] <stift> hi
[01:44] <stift> someone help me to put vnc on an xubuntu
[01:55] <stift2> what name has the winodwmanager of xubuntu
[01:55] <stift2> gdm?
[01:56] <gabkdlly> stift2: I believe that would be xfwm4
[01:56] <PuMpErNiCkLe> The window manager is xfwm.  gdm is a display manager.
[01:58] <stift2> were can i see it
[02:02] <gabkdlly> stift2: doing "which xfwm4" returns "/usr/bin/xfwm4" on my system.
[02:14] <Zeqfreed> hey guys
[02:24] <stift2> i dont get it runing
[02:28] <gabkdll1> stift2: if you are just trying to run X programs on a remote machine, you could do "ssh -X user@host [command] "
[02:29] <stift2> no.. i just want to setup a xubuntu on a old machine for someone who dont likes windows :)
[02:30] <stift2> but that person dont knows toomuch about linux
[02:31] <stift2> so i will probably need vnc to show him how things go on
[02:32] <gabkdll1> ah, ok. understand. Sorry, I have no experience with vnc myself.
[02:41] <AL89> hello guys. which programm would you recommend to rip my cds to .mp3 files?
[02:45] <gabkdll1> AL89: sound-juicer is the default for ubuntu
[02:46] <AL89> i just downloaded ripperX
[02:46] <AL89> is it any good?
[02:46] <gabkdll1> although, id does not handle mp3s by default
[02:47] <gabkdll1> I never used ripperX myself
[02:47] <AL89> okay
[03:08] <Gosty> Hi can somebody recommend me java compiler?
[04:10] <AL89> gabkdll1, ripperx is quite good. easy to handle and configure.
[04:53] <nofxx> hi... when I close the laptop lid my xubuntu try to hibernate, but it comes back stay on BUT STOP THE CPU COOLER..... now I dont know witch is worse: burn my lap or go back to windows
[04:53] <nofxx> please help.. xD
[06:03] <dobbbob> is there an ap for xubuntu that lets me control clock frequency? and set defaults for ac and battery?
[07:28] <age6racer> hey all, quick question... I am running Xubuntu on a PIII 600mhz laptop with 128mb Ram, will installing Wine slow the system down much? or will it just be when I run windows apps?
[07:32] <Commander-Crowe> age6racer if you can add a little more ram you should be fine
[07:32] <TheSheep> age6racer: no, it will just be used for running windows apps -- unless you want to use a daemonized version of wine
[07:32] <TheSheep> age6racer: you can always remove the wine daemon from startup
[07:37] <age6racer> ok thanks guys
[07:37] <age6racer> I'm planning to add some more ram (take it upto 320mb)
[08:04] <Rageagainstthis> is there a launcher function in xubuntu like ubuntu?
[08:08] <ormiret> Rageagainstthis: what do you mean by launcher? Something to start applications?
[08:08] <Rageagainstthis> or a series of commands in terminal
[08:09] <starvingstudent> I'm a bit confused. I was trying to install VMware through the Add/Remove Applications...anyways it didn't complete and I now get an error.
[08:10] <Rageagainstthis> vmware player or server?
[08:11] <starvingstudent> player
[08:11] <Rageagainstthis> how far into the install did you get?
[08:11] <starvingstudent> I think it installed 3 of the 4 sections.
[08:11] <Rageagainstthis> are you using 6.06?
[08:11] <starvingstudent> Unsure to be honest. Went away and came back ~.~
[08:11] <starvingstudent> Nah. I'm using 6.10 edgy
[08:12] <Rageagainstthis> interesting, what kind of error do you get?
[08:12] <starvingstudent> "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. "
[08:12] <starvingstudent> Thats a bit confusing. Care to explain? I'd really like to know what that means o.0
[08:13] <Rageagainstthis> i have never run into that error before actually.  Ive always used vmware server myself
[08:14] <starvingstudent> Hrmmm.
[08:14] <Rageagainstthis> well i suppose you can manually run the .deb package with dpkg
[08:14] <starvingstudent> I guess I'll have to.
[08:14] <Rageagainstthis> or you can try automatix2 it has vmwareplayer on there
[08:14] <starvingstudent> hrmmm
[08:16] <starvingstudent> I tried to run dpkg --configure a in a terminal and it keeps saying "requires superuser privilege" I need to be logged in as root? :p
[08:16] <Devil_Kin> hey folks, did anything break with one of the recent updates to edgy xubuntu? even xfce-mcs-manager crashes with a segfault
[08:16] <Rageagainstthis> sudo yes
[08:21] <Devil_Kin> nm, seems xfce4-mcs-plugins got b0rked
[08:21] <starvingstudent> lol...man...I think I should just stick to the search function on the forums. :p
[08:55] <natira> hi
[08:55] <natira> de3sperate\
[08:55] <natira> :-(
[08:55] <natira> WTF!!
[08:55] <natira> i ain't got no borders
[08:56] <natira> can't move windows around
[08:56] <natira> I go to setting and click window manager and I get an error
[08:57] <natira> "These settings cannot work with your current window manager (unknown)
[08:57] <maxamillion> natira: alt+f2 ... put "xfwm4" in the run dialogue that will pop up and click 'run'
[08:57] <TheSheep> natira: press alt+ctrl+f1
[08:57] <natira> also windows manger tweaks aaint working
[08:58] <TheSheep> natira: then log in there
[08:58] <TheSheep> natira: type 'export DISPLAY=:0'
[08:58] <TheSheep> natira: and then xfwm4
[09:02] <natiro> hi
[09:02] <natiro> ok this all weird
[09:03] <natiro> no w I am in gnome and backspace isnt working
[09:03] <TheSheep> natira: nowehre, or only in terminal?
[09:03] <natiro> and gnome terminal doesn't work
[09:03] <natiro> I've tried on ly on terminal
[09:04] <natiro> what the hell happened?
[09:04] <TheSheep> I don't know about gnome terminal, but Terminal has an option on what should backspace do, in the preferences
[09:04] <natiro> by the way I am fixin... nothing to do with that it was working fine with xubuntu
[09:05] <natiro> now how come I sitll have gnome? I thought IU;'ve remove it all
[09:05] <TheSheep> natira: let me get my tea to do a little auguring :)
[09:05] <natiro> and is there a waty to fix Xubuntu?
[09:05] <TheSheep> natira: what's broken?
[09:05] <natiro> eveyrything is working fine except I don';t have border therefore unable to move windows around
[09:05] <TheSheep> natira: ah, your xfwm4 didn't start
[09:06] <TheSheep> natira: you need to run it somehow and save the session on logout
[09:06] <natiro> the freaking border then just a few seconds ago someone told me to to do ctrl+alt+f1 I dpon't konw why but I did start x and I am ein Gnome now
[09:06] <TheSheep> natira: make sure it is installed
[09:06] <natiro> ohhh... I think the hateful daughetr of my friend th did this shieet
[09:06] <TheSheep> natira: I old you to press alt+ctrlf1, to swithc to text terminal so that you can run xfwm4 from there
[09:07] <natiro> now I ,,... and you ;-) got to fix this ehshieeat
[09:07] <natiro> ohh I got it... no for running startx
[09:07] <natiro> ROFL!!!
[09:07] <natiro> ok so I kill X now?
[09:07] <natiro> start that one
[09:07] <natiro> and go back to where if F1 is the fisr thing
[09:09] <TheSheep> I don't follow you :?
[09:12] <natira> hi
[09:12] <natira> I am still in here lol
[09:12] <natira> ok
[09:12] <natira> I don
[09:12] <natira> 't have border at all
[09:13] <natira> and when i try to type in window manager in the settings tells me cannot be used
[09:13] <natira> and Window Manager Tweaks
[09:13] <natira> so I am screw
[09:13] <TheSheep> natira: you have to run xfwm4, didn't you try that?
[09:13] <natira> says this window cannot work with your current window manager
[09:13] <natira> i did
[09:13] <TheSheep> natira: the wm settings and tweaks won't work if xfwm4 is not running
[09:14] <natira> gives me an error couln't start some GTK thing
[09:14] <TheSheep> natira: then that's what's broken
[09:14] <natira> ok let me see again
[09:14] <natira> (xfwm4:5591): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[09:15] <natira> what the heck
[09:15] <TheSheep> natira: type 'export DISPLAY=:0'
[09:15] <TheSheep> natira: and try again
[09:16] <natira> did not work
[09:16] <TheSheep> natira: what did it say?
[09:16] <natira> man f@$% gnome didn't uninstall completeley
[09:16] <natira> (xfwm4:5595): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[09:17] <natira> yo man... all this is his daughter's fault
[09:17] <natira> :-(
[09:17] <natira> 'cause she says she hates linux
[09:17] <natira> but her father loves it
[09:18] <somerville32> natira: What version of Xubuntu are you using?
[09:18] <natira> I've gotta open a new user for her to screw up as much as she wants without affecting her father's account
[09:18] <natira> how can I find out?
[09:18] <somerville32> cat /etc/issue
[09:19] <natira> 'cause I can't get to the menus without ending this conversation
[09:19] <natira> Ubuntu 6.10 \n \l
[09:20] <natira> i have the suspicion that some gnome shit is getting on the way. for instance how come I can run Gnome windows?
[09:20] <somerville32> do:
[09:21] <somerville32> sudo apt-get -f install
[09:21] <natira> install what?
[09:22] <natira> I did remove gnome-desktop so I do'nt konw why the Gnome WM still there
[09:22] <natira> anyone?
[09:23] <somerville32> ...
[09:23] <somerville32> Are you at the command line?
[09:23] <natira> somerville32: ok doing the commmand that you told me
[09:23] <natira> yeah on the other tab
[09:23] <natira> and did what you've told me
[09:23] <natira> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 53 not upgraded.
[09:24] <somerville32> What do you mean by other tab?
[09:24] <natira> on the terminal
[09:25] <somerville32> Ok
[09:25] <natira> got two windows
[09:25] <natira> now?
[09:25] <natira> :-(
[09:25] <somerville32> Are you running Gnome or Xfce4 right now?
[09:25] <natira> Xfce4 now without Windows Manager, it wont' start
[09:25] <natira> and i wanna get rid of Gnome
[09:25] <natira> is giving me issues
[09:26] <natira> how do i get rid of evolution?
[09:27] <natira> what about my xfce4 window manager?
[09:27] <natira> what can I do to restore it?
[09:28] <Zambezi> Is it beryl in Xubuntu Edgy?
[09:28] <natira> naaa
[09:28] <natira> plain Xubuntu
[09:28] <natira> yaiks!
[09:28] <natira> is evolution part of Xubuntu?
[09:28] <natira> I just removed it
[09:29] <Zambezi> natira, There might be a dependiec. Did you check that?
[09:29] <natira> nope
[09:30] <Zambezi> natira, You're pretty new at Linux right?
[09:30] <natira> mmm... new to @#$@#$ kuxubuntu
[09:30] <natira> i ran GEntoo
[09:30] <natira> run
[09:30] <natira> no clue about what the heck is going on in here
[09:31] <Zambezi> natira, I'm thinking here.
[09:31] <natira> thanks
[09:31] <Zambezi> natira, I'm trying to help.
[09:31] <somerville32> natira, I recommend reinstalling. You can just remove random packages. :S
[09:31] <natira> now the guy is rushing me
[09:31] <natira> reinstalling how?
[09:31] <somerville32> Natira: Which guy?
[09:31] <natira> what part do I have to reinstall?
[09:31] <natira> guy's computer
[09:32] <somerville32> You're just uninstalling random crap on some guy's computer?
[09:32] <natira> I am just trying to fix this for him
[09:32] <natira> mm... I figured evolution wasn't part of xubuntu
[09:32] <natira> isn't it?
[09:33] <natira> god
[09:33] <somerville32> Natira: It isn't
[09:33] <Zambezi> somerville32, I accidently remove packages that the kernel needed. But I have all the stuffs to a new computer, but I have installed everything yet. I might give Xfce another chance now. Is it Beryl in Edgy Eft?
[09:34] <somerville32> Zambezi, I'm not sure what you mean.
[09:34] <natira> ok how what should be my NEXT STEP
[09:34] <natira> for sanities sake
[09:34] <Zambezi> somerville32, I liked Xubuntu, but its memoryleak isn't that hot.
[09:34] <somerville32> Zambezi: Edgy doesn't have that many memory leaks. Feisty is fine.
[09:35] <Soir> memory leak?
[09:36] <Zambezi> somerville32, I messed up my installation too. I wasn't careful enough and didn't read which packages I also erased. You know, you delete one and apt-get wants too delete more packages. And I kind of removed an important packages, so if I reboot I won't be able to start the computer. :-)
[09:37] <natira> please
[09:37] <Zambezi> somerville32, But since I got a new computer, it doesn't matter. I just have to bukild it.
[09:37] <natira> how can i fix xubuntu!!
[09:37] <natira> can I reinstall xfwm?
[09:37] <Zambezi> natira, At first, you need patient.
[09:38] <natira> ok
[09:38] <natira> but I mean Xfc4 is running fine
[09:38] <natira> it's only that I don't have the borders
[09:38] <Zambezi> somerville32, Do you run Xubuntu Feisty?
[09:39] <somerville32> Yup
[09:39] <natira> what's the package for xfwm??
[09:39] <natira> may I reisntall it?
[09:39] <natira> yup to me?
[09:39] <somerville32> nope
[09:40] <somerville32> Zamezi: Ok, just download the ISO and install :)
[09:40] <somerville32> natira: Are you _sure_ you are running Xfce4?
[09:40] <somerville32> At the login screen, did you click sessions and then xfce4?
[09:40] <somerville32> What are you trying to accomplish?
[09:40] <natira> yes
[09:41] <natira> ok I will log in again 'cause it was my cluelesslesslesslesslessless that logged int
[09:41] <natira> *in
[09:43] <natira> ok I am loggin in again
[09:43] <somerville32> ...
[09:55] <Jenesis> hi
[09:55] <somerville32> Hi :)
[09:56] <maxamillion> hello
[09:56] <Jenesis> I want a aplicattion to record video from my webcam and save it in avi or mpg format
[09:56] <Jenesis> can you give me advice?
[09:58] <Jenesis> I'm using vlc but the archives seems to be no compatible whith youtube
[09:58] <Jenesis> sorry my english is not very good
[10:01] <somerville32> Hmmm
[10:02] <Jenesis> a good tuto of vlc will do too.
[10:02] <Jenesis> the vlc page is a little caothic
[10:06] <Jenesis> Of course I can record my videos directly in youtube, download them with unplug and convert them with ffmpeg... but.. I'd prefer  to use a linux aplicattion.
[10:07] <maxamillion> Jenesis: http://www.kinodv.org/article/static/2 ... try that application .. its in the repositories and you can install it with apt-get, aptitude, or synaptic
[10:07] <Jenesis> thanks :)
[10:10] <maxamillion> Jenesis: no problem :)
[10:14] <atarinox> can somebody recommend some good software for receiving podcasts?
[10:17] <Jenesis> iPodder
[10:17] <Jenesis>  iPodder : iPodder is a GUI-driven podcast receiver, allowing users to download and listen to Internet audio programs.
[10:18] <somerville32> !iPodder
[10:18] <Jenesis> :)
[10:18] <somerville32> Hmm...
[10:18] <somerville32> Or yeah
[10:18] <somerville32> lol
[10:18] <somerville32> ubotu
[10:18] <maxamillion> :)
[10:19] <maxamillion> ubotu: hello?
[10:19] <ubotu> hello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB
[10:19] <maxamillion> bah!
[10:19] <maxamillion> ubotu: iPodder?
[10:19] <maxamillion> ermmm...
[10:19] <somerville32> !info iPodder
[10:19] <ubotu> ipodder: a podcast receiver. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.9-5 (edgy), package size 640 kB, installed size 2648 kB
[10:19] <atarinox> is it relatively lightweight?
[10:21] <somerville32> Not sure :] 
[10:28] <somerville32> Where is kalikiana?
[10:29] <maxamillion> !seen kalikiana
[10:29] <ubotu> I last saw kalikiana (n=kalikian@xdsl-84-44-178-49.netcologne.de) 8h 54m 36s ago, quiting: ""And Jesus said unto John: 'Come forth, I will give you eternal life!'. Unfortunately, John came fifth... he won a toaster.""
[10:29] <Jenesis> it's a bot !!
[10:29] <Jenesis> I like bots !!
[10:29] <maxamillion> Jenesis: yes ... yes it is :) ... ubotu and Ubugtu are bots
[10:29] <Jenesis> :D
[10:30] <Jenesis> hi ubotu
[10:31] <Jenesis> it does not answer?
[10:33] <somerville32> It isn't smart
[10:33] <somerville32> It isn't for chatting with
[10:33] <Jenesis> ops
[10:34] <Jenesis> :)
[10:34] <Jenesis> kino no supports input from v4l I'm afraid...
[10:35] <Jenesis> just from an arhive
[10:35] <Jenesis> thanks anyway :)
[10:36] <Jenesis> I have to go Bye !
[11:00] <PirateHead> xubuntu Edgy just somehow cut power to my USB ports
[11:00] <PirateHead> how do I turn them back on?
[11:02] <somerville32> :S
[11:02] <somerville32> Sounds like a hardware issue to me
[11:10] <Jester45> how can i cheack what mother board i have without opening the computer and looking becuase that didnt work
[11:14] <somerville32> You can't
[11:14] <somerville32> Open it up again
[11:14] <somerville32> There should be a model number on it
[11:14] <Jester45> yes i tried that but cant find anything about it
[11:16] <Jester45> maybe i read it wrong becuase it was dime light and small text
[11:17] <Jester45> brb
[12:16] <RememberPOL> So... if I shut down my laptop while the AC charging cable is plugged in, it hangs on halt (no matter if APCI is disabled)... But if I shut down _without_ the AC charging cable plugged in, it completely shuts down just fine. Any ideas why this might be so?