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| Jucato | hi Hobbsee |isHere! :) | 06:03 |
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| crimsun | hoo rah! | 06:03 |
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| Hobbsee | hey Jucato, crimsun! | 06:10 |
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| Jucato | Hi Hobbsee_ the 3rd :) | 06:44 |
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| nixternal | hiya Hobbsee! | 07:13 |
| Hobbsee | hey nixternal! | 07:15 |
| nixternal | for some odd reason, my initial connection to kde svn is very slow | 07:15 |
| Hobbsee | :( | 07:15 |
| === Jucato goes to bed.. makes a mental note to talk to nixternal about something later... | ||
| === nixternal makes a mental note to disconnect :) | ||
| Jucato | heh:) | 07:16 |
| Hobbsee | night Jucato | 07:16 |
| nixternal | do i need to worry? ;p | 07:16 |
| Jucato | no not at all :) | 07:16 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: good afternoon :) | 07:16 |
| nixternal | hehe | 07:16 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 07:16 |
| Jucato | I just feel soooo sleepy | 07:16 |
| nixternal | sleepy sleep then :) | 07:16 |
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| yuriy | Hobbsee: why wine? | 08:31 |
| yuriy | *whine | 08:31 |
| Hobbsee | yuriy: being /queried and bitched at by a guy who hasnt actually directly helped ubuntu, about how the releases and dev team is crap. | 08:32 |
| Hobbsee | and MOTU | 08:32 |
| yuriy | yuck. | 08:33 |
| crimsun | /msg Hobbsee PONIES | 08:33 |
| crimsun | err | 08:33 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: hehe | 08:33 |
| Hobbsee | yuriy: indeed. | 08:33 |
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| yuriy | hmm raw conversion in digikam doesn't seem to work | 08:38 |
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| seaLne | is there anyway so that when you open a writable file via an kioslave to open it rw rather than ro? i get this with samba and fish, you have to right click to get rw? | 12:32 |
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| Riddell | you mean open in (say) kate proper rather than in kate embedded part? | 12:37 |
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| seaLne | not sure if its just my setup, but it opened in kate proper, but wouldn't allow me to write in todays instance when in a blog posting i clicked on a link to file on a samba share which all opened fine | 12:39 |
| seaLne | hmm fish does just use kpart | 12:41 |
| seaLne | i wonder what typical users expect to get from clicking on a file that is writable, probably that it would behave the same as a local file, i wonder if this is a filebrowser/web browser concept problem | 12:43 |
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| Riddell | seaLne: even for http I'm not sure how it decides whether to embed or open the app | 01:51 |
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| seaLne | yeah i suppose webdav would be another victim | 01:56 |
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| Riddell | anyone want to work on the Herd2 page? | 02:25 |
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| Riddell | sebas: power manager broked | 02:32 |
| Riddell | File "/usr/share/python-support/kde-guidance/powermanage.py", line 42, in _readValue | 02:32 |
| Riddell | fhandle = open(file) | 02:32 |
| Riddell | IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq' | 02:33 |
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| Riddell | hi pinheiro | 02:33 |
| pinheiro | hi Riddell | 02:33 |
| pinheiro | how you doing? | 02:34 |
| Riddell | I'm good, any news? | 02:36 |
| Jucato | hi Riddell, hi pinheiro! | 02:37 |
| pinheiro | Riddell: none | 02:37 |
| pinheiro | apart from lots of work in the kde artfront | 02:38 |
| pinheiro | but that is hardly somthing new :P | 02:38 |
| mhb | hi Jucato, yes you were right ... somebody writing UWN has mistaken the two words (windeco/widget style) | 02:40 |
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| Riddell | mhb: didn't you write that? | 02:42 |
| mhb | Riddell: no, I just cleaned up the Kubuntu/Meetings mess | 02:43 |
| Riddell | oh, I wonder who wrote it then | 02:44 |
| Jucato | ryanacka? | 02:46 |
| Riddell | top bloke whoever it was :) | 02:51 |
| jsgotangco | hey Riddell how's it going dude, its been a while, happy new year | 02:53 |
| Riddell | hi jsgotangco, it's going well thanks, how's your archipeligo? | 02:55 |
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| mhb | Riddell: nixternal | 02:55 |
| jsgotangco | Riddell: pretty good, travelling next week to indonesia for an asia-wide foss workshop, work is doing good, started working on some edubuntu stuff again | 02:55 |
| mhb | Riddell: ^^ did the UWN kubuntu-meeting part | 02:56 |
| Riddell | like I said, top bloke | 02:56 |
| Jucato | heh :) | 02:58 |
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| sebas | Riddell: What machine? | 03:14 |
| Riddell | sebas: mine | 03:14 |
| Riddell | thinkpad | 03:14 |
| sebas | Can you ls /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ ? | 03:14 |
| sebas | I can whip up a patch in a minute then | 03:15 |
| Riddell | ls /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ | 03:15 |
| Riddell | ls: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/: No such file or directory | 03:15 |
| Riddell | ls /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/ | 03:15 |
| Riddell | crash_notes topology | 03:15 |
| Riddell | sebas: cpu scaling is broken in linux on my cheapo r40e so it gets turned off at some point near to bootup | 03:16 |
| Riddell | or not loaded or something | 03:16 |
| sebas | Interesting, I'll make that part more stable then. You'll have to test a patch then which first detects it and later *not* assumes it's still there. | 03:17 |
| Riddell | sebas: cool, happy to test whenever | 03:21 |
| === Riddell out to lunch | ||
| sebas | Riddell: I've emailed you a patch, let me know if that helps. | 03:25 |
| Riddell | File "/usr/share/python-support/kde-guidance/powermanage.py", line 346, in getCpuState | 03:29 |
| Riddell | for v in freqs.split(): | 03:29 |
| Riddell | UnboundLocalError: local variable 'freqs' referenced before assignment | 03:29 |
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| sebas | Ow, shit. | 03:30 |
| sebas | Add a "return state" after the state['online'] = False please | 03:30 |
| Riddell | sebas: that does the job | 03:32 |
| Riddell | yep, working nicely now | 03:33 |
| Riddell | which means I can go to lunch! yay | 03:33 |
| sebas | Eet smakelijk | 03:34 |
| === sebas commtis | ||
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| bddebian | Heya | 03:48 |
| Jucato | hi bddebian | 03:54 |
| bddebian | Heya Jucato | 03:55 |
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| Riddell | ah, nixternal, are you able to work on the herd 2 pages for a release in a few hours? | 04:57 |
| nixternal | i can do that here in a few, yes | 05:03 |
| nixternal | i was going to work on it last night, but my intertube became mangled and i was out for the night :( | 05:03 |
| Riddell | intertube? | 05:04 |
| nixternal | internet :) | 05:05 |
| nixternal | lol | 05:05 |
| Jucato | heh :) | 05:05 |
| nixternal | don't know why i was thinking of an intertube | 05:05 |
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| nixternal | Riddell: kdesu ls <- what's up with this one? | 05:08 |
| Riddell | nixternal: it's the dots in the password box | 05:13 |
| Riddell | instead of X's | 05:13 |
| Riddell | happens in any password field | 05:13 |
| Riddell | ooh, it's amu! | 05:13 |
| nixternal | ahh, ok | 05:14 |
| Riddell | nixternal: so crop the screenshot to only show the centre | 05:15 |
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| Riddell | sebas: you should do a talk about power manager at fosdem | 06:07 |
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| nixternal | Riddell: briefly explain iconic directories? | 06:28 |
| Jucato | lol @ "rm -rf /" | 06:29 |
| mhb | Jucato: what's so funny about that? | 06:29 |
| Jucato | mhb: the screenshot that's going to be used... | 06:30 |
| === Jucato is also being partly sarcastic, but... | ||
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| === mhb wonders if a screenshot like that won't make anyone feel like trying that command out | ||
| === nixternal will note that in the page | ||
| Jucato | yeah | 06:34 |
| mhb | thanks nixternal | 06:34 |
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| nixternal | i haven't gotten there just yet, i wanted to make a "scare the crap out of the user" warning so they don't do that :) | 06:34 |
| Jucato | heh :) | 06:34 |
| nixternal | i was going to do a new screenshot, but said nah, i think this will add a little humour to us :) | 06:34 |
| Jucato | dangerous humor :P | 06:34 |
| Jucato | mhb: were you able to correct the UWN article? | 06:35 |
| mhb | Jucato: I haven't tried because I was not sure if that is allowed | 06:37 |
| Jucato | afaik, it was. I remember editing it once, after asking permission from jjesse. | 06:37 |
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| mhb | nixternal: ^^ is one allowed to make a correction in the UWN? | 06:38 |
| nixternal | ya, what correction is needed? | 06:38 |
| nixternal | Jucato: you can make the correction as well ;) | 06:38 |
| Jucato | nixternal: I made one before. but it's mhb's concern :) | 06:38 |
| nixternal | now look at the warning i put up :) | 06:38 |
| nixternal | it is a public wiki, don't worry :) | 06:38 |
| Jucato | heh :) | 06:39 |
| mhb | nixternal: a great guy has made a UWN article about the Kubuntu Meeting, but he wrote that I discussed a new "window decoration", it was a new "widget style" | 06:39 |
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| nixternal | that great guy was me :) | 06:40 |
| nixternal | hahaha | 06:40 |
| mhb | nixternal: I know | 06:41 |
| Jucato | :) | 06:41 |
| nixternal | you know the funny thing, i specifically remember widget as well | 06:41 |
| nixternal | don't know why i got into a windeco frame of mind | 06:41 |
| Jucato | maybe the same reason why you got into an intertube frame of mind? :) | 06:42 |
| mhb | nixternal: it's easy to mix it, I did that myself a few times when writing about it | 06:42 |
| mhb | nixternal: it's really nothing serious, but it's great if that could be fixed | 06:42 |
| nixternal | ya, but i remember us talking about widgets the night before, because i installed the latest as well :) | 06:42 |
| Riddell | nixternal: if you go to "/" in konqueror you get pretty icons for home and /media | 06:43 |
| nixternal | thanks Riddell | 06:43 |
| nixternal | for some odd reason i can boot the latest daily | 06:45 |
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| Riddell | that's a good thing | 06:47 |
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| nixternal | lol | 06:56 |
| nixternal | damn, I can't boot :) | 06:56 |
| nixternal | hahaha | 06:56 |
| Riddell | oh, that's not good | 06:56 |
| Riddell | what happens? | 06:56 |
| nixternal | nothing | 06:56 |
| nixternal | it tries to boot, skips the cd and goes to grub | 06:56 |
| Riddell | sounds like a bad CD | 07:01 |
| nixternal | very well could be, i shall try another burn | 07:02 |
| nixternal | how long until the Herd is released? | 07:08 |
| Riddell | nixternal: ubuntu is lagging and still needs their desktop CDs tested I believe | 07:09 |
| Riddell | but this european evening | 07:09 |
| nixternal | ok, so at least a few hours yet | 07:09 |
| Riddell | yes | 07:09 |
| nixternal | good, i want to grab a couple of screenshots yet | 07:09 |
| nixternal | i installed herd1, but with udpates the kscd and kaudiocreator is still there and there were no visual changes to kaffeine | 07:09 |
| nixternal | s/is/are | 07:10 |
| mhb | Has Tonio done the Amarok option in a context menu when an audio CD is inserted? | 07:11 |
| mhb | there were some translation issues that I have not seen before | 07:12 |
| nixternal | Riddell: the 2nd burn didn't work either, the latest daily is not booting | 07:12 |
| Riddell | worked fine for me last night | 07:13 |
| nixternal | 20070111? | 07:13 |
| Riddell | there is no daily 20070111 for kubuntu | 07:13 |
| nixternal | ya there is | 07:13 |
| nixternal | lol | 07:13 |
| Riddell | only a daily-live | 07:13 |
| nixternal | oh ya, sorry | 07:14 |
| nixternal | 20070110 gave me the issues | 07:14 |
| Riddell | and that definately works fine | 07:14 |
| Riddell | well, for me anyway :) | 07:14 |
| nixternal | hrmm, 2 burns, 3 different computers :/ | 07:14 |
| Riddell | how many CD media? | 07:15 |
| nixternal | 2 | 07:15 |
| mhb | you cannot run a CD check with a daily CD? | 07:15 |
| Riddell | hmm | 07:15 |
| nixternal | i can't even boot to do a check | 07:15 |
| Riddell | mhb: his problem is it doesn't get to the CD boot screen | 07:16 |
| mhb | Riddell: oh | 07:16 |
| Riddell | anyone else able to test? | 07:16 |
| nixternal | im grabbing a live cd | 07:16 |
| nixternal | and my issue was with daily/current | 07:16 |
| mhb | I've downloaded a daily recently, I'll run rsync and test | 07:17 |
| Riddell | mhb: thanks | 07:18 |
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| mhb | current feisty daily build works for me | 07:48 |
| mhb | well, at least I'm able to boot it | 07:49 |
| Riddell | phew | 07:50 |
| Riddell | mhb: desktop CD? | 07:50 |
| mhb | Riddell: yes | 07:51 |
| Riddell | thanks | 07:51 |
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| nixternal | Riddell: i can boot the live, but cannot boot the alternate | 08:07 |
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| nixternal | Riddell: i thought kaffeine removed the audio shortcuts? | 08:12 |
| Riddell | nixternal: should have done | 08:13 |
| nixternal | lovely, with the desktop cd, i get right past the select location, and i get a 50/50 screen of ping (bottom) and gray with diaganol lines (top) | 08:14 |
| nixternal | s/ping/pink | 08:14 |
| toma | Riddell: are the sync people busy / is there a known delay? | 08:14 |
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| Riddell | nixternal: control-alt-F1; alt-F7 | 08:15 |
| Riddell | nixternal: it's a known issue | 08:15 |
| Riddell | toma: I don't know if anyone is paying much attention to syncs, what's the package? | 08:15 |
| nixternal | thanks! | 08:15 |
| toma | Riddell: mailody | 08:15 |
| Riddell | toma: bug number? | 08:17 |
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| toma | i'll make a new release for the uvf | 08:17 |
| nixternal | how come with feisty, it sees all hard drives as scsi? | 08:17 |
| toma | Riddell: bug #77711 | 08:17 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 77711 in mailody "Please sync 0.3.0-1 with Debian experimental" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77711 | 08:17 |
| Riddell | nixternal: new parallel IDE driver wheejum | 08:17 |
| nixternal | gotcha | 08:17 |
| Riddell | jdong: what's the GNU HASH thing you were talking about earlier? | 08:19 |
| jdong | Riddell, it's a new linker hash style in feisty's libc | 08:19 |
| jdong | speeds up dynamic linking significantly, like prelink | 08:20 |
| jdong | only no need to run a time-consuming binary-modifying command every week :) | 08:20 |
| jdong | FC6 included it and the first thing their KDE reviews talk about is the speed :) | 08:20 |
| Riddell | jdong: what's the downside? | 08:20 |
| nixternal | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn/Herd2/Kubuntu is almost ready | 08:21 |
| jdong | Riddell, it makes binaries a tad larger, but mostly that is unnoticeable | 08:21 |
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| Riddell | toma: mithrandir says he'll look at it tomorrow along with other archive admin stuff | 08:21 |
| jdong | Riddell, and oh yeah, it requires a system compiled from ground-up with new enough libc to support it :) | 08:21 |
| jdong | both of which are mostly done in feisty :) | 08:21 |
| toma | Riddell: oki! | 08:22 |
| jdong | IMO at least KUbuntu release notes should make mention of that :) | 08:22 |
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| nixternal | Herd (almost)2 is installed :) | 08:32 |
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| kwwii | moin | 09:16 |
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| Riddell | hi kwwii | 09:20 |
| kwwii | howdy Riddell | 09:20 |
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| Riddell | crivvens | 09:22 |
| kwwii | well, I am an artist :p | 09:26 |
| kwwii | but my wife keeps looking at me strange | 09:26 |
| kwwii | like I sold her first born or something | 09:26 |
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| nixternal | kwwii: well did you sell her first born? ;) | 09:35 |
| nixternal | they don't look at ya like that unless you did something they didn't agree with, trust me, i get that look 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year, and lord have it if it is a leap year ;p | 09:36 |
| nixternal | oh kwwii -> http://www.blarneyisland.com/ | 09:37 |
| nixternal | you know you miss it | 09:37 |
| kwwii | nixternal: not yet, it will take a while till the camera comes in :-) | 09:39 |
| kwwii | haha! sweet! | 09:40 |
| kwwii | I feel at home | 09:40 |
| kwwii | a butt-white girl in a bikini | 09:40 |
| nixternal | man, blarney has gotten big, they even have a bar in florida now | 09:40 |
| nixternal | hahahahaha | 09:40 |
| kwwii | wow, that is amazing | 09:40 |
| nixternal | we don't get any sun in chicago, you know that | 09:40 |
| kwwii | well, I get even less in germany | 09:41 |
| kwwii | trust me on that one | 09:41 |
| nixternal | hehe | 09:41 |
| kwwii | thinking about moving back home though | 09:42 |
| nixternal | really? | 09:42 |
| kwwii | yeah, I work from home, and my wife has a masters degree in english and journalism | 09:42 |
| nixternal | guess i will have to buy a new boat then, we can meet up an hack! or get drunk | 09:42 |
| kwwii | hehe | 09:42 |
| kwwii | definitely | 09:42 |
| kwwii | my family always had a house-boat | 09:43 |
| kwwii | but my dad sold his last boat a few years ago | 09:43 |
| Riddell | nixternal: do I want to know what that website is about? | 09:43 |
| nixternal | Riddell: it is a bar where kwwii is from | 09:44 |
| nixternal | about an hour north of where i live | 09:44 |
| nixternal | it is a bar out in the middle of a lake | 09:44 |
| kwwii | sounds boring but it is not | 09:44 |
| nixternal | so don't think about drinking and walking home :) | 09:44 |
| kwwii | hehe, exactly | 09:45 |
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| nixternal | heh, i was cheap a few years back and bought 2 jet skis just so we can goto blarneys | 09:45 |
| nixternal | you can pay like $5 or $10 for a water taxi, take your own boat, or jet ski. and they have extreme boating in the summer (jet boats and what not) | 09:46 |
| Riddell | it's on an island then? | 09:47 |
| nixternal | yes | 09:48 |
| nixternal | well no, it is almost like a floating bar | 09:48 |
| kwwii | yeah | 09:48 |
| kwwii | it is not an island | 09:48 |
| kwwii | not really | 09:48 |
| kwwii | and it is on a chain of lakes | 09:48 |
| nixternal | it sits on posts | 09:48 |
| kwwii | orignally it was a dock on the shore of a lake | 09:50 |
| kwwii | then they made a damn which cut it off from dry land | 09:50 |
| kwwii | well, before it was that it was a houseboat that a guy ran as a bar in the early 1900's | 09:51 |
| firephoto | ubiquity is crashing with the daily-live here. bug 78847 | 09:54 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 78847 in ubiquity "Installer Crashed kubuntu daily-live 20070111 i386" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78847 | 09:54 |
| Riddell | firephoto: yarg, thanks for reporting | 09:56 |
| Riddell | although I'm sure that code is well tested | 09:57 |
| Riddell | firephoto: are you able to take a screenshot of that page before it crashes? | 09:57 |
| firephoto | Riddell: i see an ubiquity update, i'll try that. | 09:58 |
| firephoto | yeah, it looks fine, just pops up the crashed window after the user/host/password page | 09:59 |
| Riddell | firephoto: not after the partitioning step? | 10:00 |
| firephoto | nope, during disk detection. | 10:00 |
| firephoto | 2 maybe 3 little progress windows go by, then the crash. too fast to see what the last one is saying. | 10:01 |
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| firephoto | same thing with the update btw. | 10:01 |
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| Riddell | firephoto: ok, screenshot no use then | 10:02 |
| firephoto | i found something in the .xsession-errors, i'll put that on the bug. | 10:03 |
| Riddell | firephoto: I can't look at this immediately I'm afraid, but it's high on my todo | 10:04 |
| firephoto | Riddell: ok, i'm sure the hardware has something to do with it. this is on an Intel G965 system. I updated that bug. | 10:06 |
| Riddell | firephoto: it looks like a bug in the frontend, just a hardware config I havn't tried before which makes it set values in a way none of my machines do | 10:15 |
| Riddell | firephoto: you could run the gtk frontend and see if that works to confirm | 10:16 |
| Riddell | sudo apt-get install ubiquity-frontend-gtk | 10:16 |
| firephoto | Riddell: ok, i'll try that. | 10:24 |
| firephoto | Riddell: it failed at the same spot but took longer after the step 5 page to pop up the Installer crashed window. | 10:30 |
| Riddell | firephoto: same crash? | 10:38 |
| firephoto | looks like it, i updated the bug with new logs | 10:39 |
| Riddell | all very confusing | 10:41 |
| firephoto | i'm going to try the amd64 cd, and if that's the same i'll try disconnecting one of the hard drives. | 10:43 |
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| elcuco | can anyone help me confrim a bug? | 11:13 |
| elcuco | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/78856 | 11:13 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 78856 in kdebase "kdesktop in ltr in hebrew" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 11:13 |
| elcuco | basically, killall kdesktop, strace -f -eopen -o 1.txt kdesktop, and then see it kdelibs.mo is loaded (search for it in 1.txt) | 11:14 |
| elcuco | i assume this will work also on non hebrew translations | 11:15 |
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| firephoto | Riddell: I disconnected the IDE drive and it seems to be working. There must still be some problems with the core2duo boards and the IDE hard disk support from the livecd.(?) | 11:42 |
| Riddell | firephoto: it's still probably an issue with the front end code | 11:59 |
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