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dwidmannfarkr, given a moment I could make you a command to do it12:14
farkrthanks12:15
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Linux_Galoredwidmann: just remove and reinstall the kde meta package12:15
dwidmann! paste | dwidmann12:15
ubotudwidmann: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)12:15
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dwidmannhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1116/ | farkr12:17
Linux_Galorefarkr: did you run  sudo  dpkg --configure -a12:17
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sleepy495whats the difference between sudo nvidia-xconfig and sudo nvidia-xconfig --no-composite ?12:18
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Linux_Galoresleepy495: adds 3 lines to the end of the xorg.conf file12:18
Linux_Galoresleepy495: for the later command12:19
dwidmannsleepy495, --no-composite disables the X composite extension12:19
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sleepy495should I use --no-composite or not12:19
dwidmannthen again sleepy495, it's off by default, so there is no difference12:19
sleepy495some sites for installing say to do it, some say not12:19
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Linux_Galoresleepy495: the extra lines tell it not to enable composite12:19
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sleepy495is that good or bad?12:20
dwidmannI suppose the only time it would make a difference would be if you had composite enabled before you ran the command to reconfigure x12:20
geniicomposite = rca video out or composite = combination driver?12:20
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Linux_Galoresleepy495: depends on the cards, if your using the legacy driver because you have a 5200 or older card its wise to not enable composite12:20
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sleepy495thanks all12:21
geniiTimas Is the router responding in any manner at all? Eg: can you ping it etc12:22
MinatakuHeya, genii12:22
Linux_Galoreyou can use the latest 8*** series nvidia driver with a gf4 or better but because shader support its a bit so so the fps is rubbish12:22
Linux_Galoreis*12:22
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Linux_Galorewith the gf4 og 51200 cards12:22
Linux_Galoreor*12:22
Linux_Galorewith the gf4 or 5200 cards12:23
Linux_Galorebugger cant type12:23
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Linux_Galoresleepy495: what card do you have12:23
sleepy495fx 590012:23
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Timasgenii: nope, so far no response besides windows detecting that the line is occupied12:24
Linux_Galoresleepy495: yeah use the 8*** driver and dont disable composite, it should be fine12:24
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StingRayWooooow, stdin I tested Xrealvnc, x11vnc, rdp v5, Remoteadmin 2.2, tightvnc, realvnc, Freenx and I am really amazed with x11vnc's compression12:24
jordo23How does one get rid of the main KDE panel at the bottom of the screen?  I don't see  the option when I right click...12:24
stdinStingRay: it's quite good, yeah :)12:25
Timasjordo23: by default there's a hide button at the side somewhere12:25
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StingRayIt hardly goes over 5-6 kb with 1024x768 16bit, stdin12:25
stdinnot bad :)12:25
jordo23Timas:  Can I delete it completely?12:25
Timasin kde you kinda need the panel I'd think..12:26
Linux_Galorejordo23: killall -9 kicker12:26
StingRaysuperb...I was very nervous about NX's resume problems...12:26
stdinjordo23: it's built in to KDE, but StingRay knows how to stop it from showing :P12:26
jordo23stdin: How do I get it back if I need to?12:26
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dwidmannrun the command kicker from a shell or from alt+f212:26
stdinStingRay: do you remember that link you got to hide kicker ?12:27
StingRayXrealvnc is miserable...stdin...12:27
Linux_Galoreyeah, there is a command to tell kicker not to start you have to add it to the login process12:27
StingRayfor you always ;), stdin12:27
geniiMinataku Hey :)12:27
StingRay1 mom, stdin12:27
stdin:)12:27
StingRayhttp://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Secret+Config+Settings#_Getting_Rid_of_The_Panel , stdin12:28
geniiTimas Because if it is still reachable somehow by perhaps ftp or telnet or so it could be possible to tftp some firmware to it12:28
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stdinStingRay: cool :)12:28
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StingRaysome restrictions...? ;), stdin12:28
TamacrackaGuys... I'd like to know if there's any diagnostic tests I can take on my PC... to see if there's any problems with it.12:28
TamacrackaIs there any utilities/tools I can use to check and repair anything?12:29
Timasgenii I just connected to it with wireless12:29
Timasand I"m in the admin console12:30
geniiTimas It is best not to try firmware updates over wireless.12:30
Timasgenii the main question has just become why its having trouble with the wired connection and not the wireless one12:31
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stdinStingRay: I want a X session that's going to have 1 full screen window, but I want it in KDE, (otherwise it spurts out errors) and kicker just gets in the way. I was just reminded that I didn't bookmark that link when jordo23 asked how to hide kicker :P12:31
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Bluedoghey guys12:32
Bluedogback again :)12:32
karmikazemrrr12:32
BluedogTried using envy, however I get the same issue..12:33
StingRaystdin, so you need only space...I thought you have a security scenario.12:33
Bluedogx still fails to start with nvidia specified in xorg.conf, says kernel not found12:33
zeemuhi i'm new to  kubuntu, i havn't used linux for about 2 years (i ran debian for years and years etc) .. was wondering if there's anything like 'apt-get' on kubuntu12:33
BluedogI ran apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common12:33
Bluedogstill no joy12:33
stdinStingRay: nah, my users are too dumb to do any harm :P12:33
karmikazezeemu ubuntu is debian12:33
Minatakustdin: Dumb users do the most harm12:33
stdin!de | karmikaze12:33
ubotukarmikaze: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:33
zeemuok cool12:33
StingRay:D, cool, stdin12:34
karmikazeim not german12:34
StingRayI want some12:34
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geniiTimas Well, if you can at least get into it such as now, if the firmware update is somehow responible for that component not working, you could try to re-apply it I suppose. Tho the best way would *not* be over the wireless to do this12:34
noiesmoBluedog, I use envy a couple things to check that might help you12:34
zeemukamakazi: can you remind me how to get a list of packages?12:34
stdinMinataku: I'm the only user with sudo access, the worst they can do is mess up there home dir12:34
Minatakustdin: Never underestimate XD12:34
stdinTamacracka: there isn't much you need to do, you can run fsck (look at "man fsck"), other than that, linux takes care of itself12:34
noiesmoBluedog, I open konsole thype uname -r then check if you have the linux-headers that match uname-r in /lib/modules12:35
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noiesmo*/thype/type12:35
Tamacrackastdin is there any reason why my programs sometimes randomly just shutdown and why my PC freezes?12:35
stdinMinataku: really, one user the other day asked me to "remind him how to copy and paste"12:35
Bluedogok , will do12:35
Bluedogthanks12:35
Tamacrackait's startin to remind me of windows again.12:35
Minatakustdin: rofl12:35
zeemukarmikaze: how can i get a list of packages available for download through apt-get12:36
MinatakuTamacracka: Maybe you have marginal HW12:36
Tamacrackamarginal?12:36
noiesmoBluedog, if not install a linux-image that you can also get the linux headers for.12:36
Linux_GaloreBluedog: yeah have to be carefull, it sometimes installs the nvidia stuff for the kernel your not using by default, you often have to remove the old kernel to stop it booting12:36
Tamacrackacan you explain?12:36
dwidmannlintian makes the kubxtra package cry =O12:36
stdinTamacracka: I'd say look at the logs in /var/log/ to check for clues, and run memtest at boot to check your RAM for errors12:36
MinatakuTamacracka: Near failure12:36
karmikazeummm theres too many zeemu, apt-cache search something12:37
Bluedoglinux isnt as easy as they make out it now is, is it :P12:37
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Bluedogim trying to get the livecd install working before using full linux12:37
genii<- away from keyboard a minute or 2 but returning12:37
karmikazeapt-cache search broswer12:37
Bluedogdont wanna kill my hdd for nothing12:37
karmikazeor whatever you are lookin for12:37
farkrdo you think xubuntu running in a virtual machine running on windows2000, with 768mb ram would be fast enough?12:37
Linux_GaloreBluedog: no desktop is really, I have issues with newbies on all the platforms12:37
noiesmoBluedog, you could do this "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)" that will install the headers if avail for yuor current kernel12:37
Tamacrackayou know what.. i should run memory test, even though it takes for ever lol but i've only done it once.12:37
Tamacrackalol Linux12:37
Bluedogok :D12:37
Tamacracka<- Newbie :P12:37
StingRaystdin, I'd better visit www.go-to-bed.org. What is your local time?12:37
farkreveryones a newbie at something :)12:38
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Tamacrackayep that's why i openly accept it.12:38
farkrunless they don't even try, in which ase tehy're worse than noobs !12:38
Linux_GaloreBluedog: one thing i have noticed is i get far less "I downloaded this app and now my machine just crashes" with Linux12:38
stdinStingRay: it's 21:38 here, just finished a LoCo team meeting :P12:38
Bluedogyeah :D12:38
Minatakufarkr: Yeah. They're Windows users. *rimshot*12:38
Minatakuj/k XD12:38
Bluedogive used it before, just not on this machine12:38
Tamacrackabrb gonna run mem test :P12:38
Bluedogubuntu seems to hate 7800 GTs12:38
farkrkinda true since windows hides everything so you never have to learn anything, then again ubuntu is trying to do that too ;x12:39
Linux_GaloreBluedog: no its works fine12:39
dwidmannhmm, but it likes my 7900gtx :)12:39
Linux_GaloreBluedog: knowlege is your problem12:39
Minatakufarkr: That's why Kubuntu is better, since KDE doesn't hide everything (and suck) like GNOME does12:39
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Bluedoghehe12:39
Bluedogfair enough12:39
stdinStingRay: my eyes are blurry, it's not 21:38 it's 23:39 now :P12:39
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farkrcant argue12:39
MinatakuI mean, KDE is still pretty bad, but you know12:39
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MinatakuXD12:39
StingRayYou are too far on west...Where is this?12:39
Thehound666Maybe you guys can explain what happened with one of my Kubuntu installs. My system clock was running half speed then I finally thought to run recovery mode12:40
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Bluedogi was just shocked the livecd crashed on boot, taken me hours to get stuff going :D12:40
StingRayI just thought you live in the ocean. stdin lol12:40
Thehound666then it was fine12:40
Linux_GaloreBluedog: I would say you have the driver but its for a kernel version your not actually booting12:40
TimasI got you all beat, its 00:39 for me12:40
Bluedogyeah :)12:40
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MinatakuWed Jan 10 18:39:26 EST 200712:40
geniiMinataku is in my time zone :)12:40
stdinTimas: but I've been here since 8am :P12:40
Minatakugenii: Just farther south than you are12:40
Minataku^^12:41
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geniiHeh :)12:41
matthewhi12:41
Timaspfft, these days I got too much of a life to be able to do those kind of things :P12:41
Linux_GaloreBluedog: the drivers are installed for a "set kernel version", I had a similar problem it installed the driver and a different kernel to match but when i rebooted it still used the old default kernel so the driver didnt work12:41
geniistdin Geez didn't see you here :)12:41
Bluedoggotcha12:41
stdingenii: heh :)12:41
Minatakugenii: Any word on quickly smuggling that IPX out for me before anyone notices?12:41
Bluedogso if i check my uname -r matched i should be ok?12:41
Tamacrackaif the memory test fails.. will i be able to log onto kubuntu?12:41
Tamacrackaor should i back up all my files before the memory test?12:41
dwidmannwow, someone in the same time zone as me | minataku12:41
MinatakuTamacracka: Memtest runs separate on the bare hardware12:42
Tamacrackaok good12:42
Linux_GaloreBluedog: yes, also look in adept and remove the old kernel if its not the marching one for the nvidia driver that should stop it booting the wrong kernel12:42
MinatakuIf it fails then all it means is that something is wrong with your RAM12:42
Tamacrackadont wanna lose my files :P12:42
Tamacrackagood good :P12:42
Tamacrackaalright thanks Minataku12:42
MinatakuAnd would probably explain why both Windows and Linux both explode12:42
Bluedogthankya linux_galore :D12:42
MinatakuTamacracka: np12:42
StingRayGood night all | stdin, 2:00 am aproaching!12:42
geniiMinataku Looks like all the rest is yours but that one... like I said before, he wants to give it to one of our original sysadmins from back in '9312:42
Linux_GaloreBluedog: or just hit esc when you boot up right after the bios and select the other kernel12:42
Thehound666noone here knows why it happened either. Was very weird12:42
stdinStingRay: how much you wanna bet I'll be here when you wake up :P12:43
Bluedogim on a livecd, so im assuming thats not a possibility :)12:43
Minatakugenii: Beat him up, push him down the stairs, something to get me that IPX!12:43
MinatakuXD12:43
MinatakuI just hope that the one from '93 says "What the hell do I want this for?"12:43
geniiMinataku He's the guy who signs my paycheques!! ROFL12:43
Minatakugenii: They'll replace him while he's in the hospital12:43
MinatakuXD12:43
Thehound666noone ever have the clock run half speed in Kubuntu?12:44
geniiMinataku Still, the Sparc10 and so on are still pretty good hauls I think. I still need to find a box that holds it all so I can get it weighed etc12:44
StingRaystdin, I would advise you to follow my bright example in the next 1-2 hours. I will be here at 6:30 am your time. If I see you here I think you will be tired...It is up to you ;), stdin12:44
Thehound666the disorder survives across reboots until you run recovery mode12:44
Minatakugenii: Heehee12:45
MinatakuWell, try to convince him that the guy won't want the IPX12:45
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MinatakuThough I guess it's easy for me to say that because I have a silver tounge12:45
MinatakuXD12:45
stdinStingRay: I probably will, I'll see you later, night :)12:45
geniiMinataku Actually what I'm working on is convincing him not to get it bronzed atm...12:45
geniiROFL12:46
Minatakulol12:46
StingRaythanks, stdin. To you too!12:46
geniiOK, need to go grab a cig & coffee.... away for a bit12:46
MinatakuTell him it'll be free advertising if he gives it to me XD12:46
MinatakuI'll say I got it from "Wherever you work"12:46
MinatakuX312:46
genii:)12:46
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TimasThehound666: I've seen a lot about this on the ubuntuforums.. but can't recall the context, sorry12:46
Thehound666ok, so it's not Ku specific12:47
Thehound666I'll give it a search12:47
Thehound666thanks12:47
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MinatakuThehound666: Try searching Google entirely, it's more than likely not specific to *buntu either12:48
hawk_can someone tell me where i can get WINE from12:48
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Minataku!wine12:48
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.12:48
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dwidmannwine.budgetdedicated.com12:48
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hawk_thank you very much12:49
Thehound666Cedega ftw12:49
Thehound666runs more than WINE at least for me12:49
hawk_but is that one cost money12:49
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Thehound666yes, the only downfall12:50
hawk_how much dos it cost12:50
Thehound666but better than paying Bill for an OS(Vista)12:50
Dasnipa`hawk_, but only $2012:50
Thehound666if it's kept updated12:50
hawk_thank you so much12:50
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Dasnipa`$5 a month, and when you sign up you have to sign up for 4 months. but when you cancel you keep the program you just cant get latest update12:51
Thehound666I have to still run XP for a few odd games though.12:51
Thehound666FFXI for one12:51
Linux_GaloreGod! I love Vista, If you were going to write a nice looking OS then turn it into a total pain in the rear with lots of DRM crippling features you would be hard out to beat Vista12:51
gekkobuntuhello this is only a test... could you hear me ?12:51
Linux_Galoreput*12:51
Thehound666WINE and Cedega both get to chracter selection and freeze12:51
JosefKloud and clear gekkobuntu12:51
Thehound666which is odd12:51
matthew__i need help, adept is running read only mode because apparently another thing is using the packaging but  have only konqueror, adept manager and konversation running. how do i see what is running in the background?12:51
gekkobuntuthanx its my first time at freenode12:52
Linux_GaloreCodeweavers 6.0 is out with WoW support built in and an install wizard for newbies12:52
Thehound666ksysGuard12:52
hawk_realy you can play wow now12:52
Thehound666in the system menu12:52
Linux_Galorehawk_: yeppers12:52
hawk_WOW that is so cool12:53
hawk_lol pun12:53
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Thehound666it is, now get FFXI out of compatibility: rubbish and I'll be happy12:53
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strayhikariQuick question: Installing restricted codecs, the list of items to apt-get from the ubuntu docs, "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs ogle ogle-gui" Will that work in Kubuntu? or Just in Gnome?12:54
bobesponjamy trash is not working, everytime I try to move a file to Trash the progress dialg get stuck at 0%12:54
hawk_well i have to install wine.... so i wiil stay on but just not talking for some time12:54
Thehound666not sure why it's so hard, only obstacle I see is its device detection routines12:54
Thehound666k12:54
Linux_GaloreCedega is pretty evil they dont add anything to the community really, codeweavers send all their source code to the wine project12:54
Linux_Galorealso you need a password to install Cedega now, not with Codeweavers12:55
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Linux_Galoreyou can install codeweavers on all your machines at home, Cedega has a limited license install that password protected12:56
Linux_Galoreand not "FOSS"12:56
Thehound666I'm only saying I'd rather pay Cedega than Bill Gates12:57
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Thehound666Especially if Cedega solves the few remaining major issues12:57
farkrwhat do i have to do if i want to mount my fat32 partition under my normal user home dir?12:57
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Linux_GaloreThehound666: you may as well pay bill gates, they do bugger all for FOSS12:57
Linux_Galorefarkr: check you /etc/fstab file and see were its mounted first on your file system12:59
Linux_Galoreyour*12:59
Linux_Galorefarkr: if its not there you may have to create an entry for it12:59
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Linux_Galorefarkr: then just put a link on your desktop01:00
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Bluedogyou guys rule :)01:00
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Bluedogmy question is01:01
hawk_back01:01
Bluedogwhy do the restricted modules preinstalled on the livecd not match the kernel?01:01
Bluedoguname -r gives 2.6.17-10-generic01:02
Bluedogif you look in synaptic, the installed versions are for a newer kernel01:02
geniiHas anyone worked with crystalspace3D engine?01:02
Bluedogif you roll them back, THEN install the nvidia-glx driver, it works perfectly01:02
Bluedogdoesnt make sense to me? :S01:02
maximas01:03
Minatakuwb, genii01:03
geniiMinataku Heh :)01:03
Minatakugenii: Just in case, note I was joking about injuring your boss (or anyone) XD01:03
Bluedogbut yeah, thanks Linux_Galore :P01:03
geniiMinataku Yeah I know LOL no worries01:03
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Minatakuk ^^01:04
Linux_GaloreBluedog: whats the nividia kernel version it uses01:04
willys_fueguinohello. Could someone tell me a command to execute adept as user x with su privilegies??01:04
Linux_GaloreBluedog: is it still 2.6.17 ?01:04
matthew__i cant use adept because something is using packaging. how do i stop it? only able to use read only mode for adept right now01:05
geniiOr if not crystalspace3D does anyone know of a good open-source game engine to look at?01:05
Bluedogi think so, but its 2.6.17-15 if I remember correctly01:05
Bluedogim on .17-1001:05
Bluedogswapping out the restricted package for the older one made it all click01:05
Linux_GaloreBluedog: aah dont attach the same release numbers on the kernels they are not the same01:05
geniiEgdy default should be.17-10-generic yeah01:05
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Bluedogyeah01:06
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Bluedogso thats right?01:06
Linux_GaloreBluedog: as long as its 2.6.17  your fine the last number "is the release version for that particular kernel"01:06
BluedogI checked my kernel version, and had to roll back the restricted drivers package to make nvidia-glx work01:06
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Bluedogah right01:06
Linux_GaloreBluedog: I did that too, there not the same release cycle01:06
xwolf-has anyone already upgraded x-server-xorg-core package? last time the upgrade was buggy and i had to downgrade..01:07
Bluedogso, it means the restricted package is from a newer kernel version than I have installed? Just checking my knowledge :)01:07
Linux_GaloreBluedog: bit of an oranges and pears comparison thing01:07
Bluedogah..01:08
Linux_GaloreBluedog: ignore the last number when relating to the generic kernels01:08
BluedogI cant help feel I'm missing something, this is all a bit new to me :P01:08
hawk_anyone know anything about wine01:08
stdinBluedog: have you updated adept, or ran apt-get update ?01:08
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Bluedogso why did reverting the restricted package to an older version make the nvidia drivers on synaptic suddenly work?01:08
Bluedogstdin: what is adept? :$01:09
Bluedoghehe01:09
Linux_GaloreBluedog: ok, now what you do is when you boot up press esc and select the kernel that uses the nvidia drivers01:09
Linux_GaloreBluedog: right after the bios screen01:09
stdinBluedog: ahh, your in gnome aren't you01:09
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SheickSouthHi Any idea how I can install my standard widoze fonts in Kubuntu, please? Any link?01:09
stdinBluedog: synaptic then01:09
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Bluedogah :) ok01:09
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BluedogI'm running a livecd at the moment linux galore, so I guess I can't do that01:09
Bluedogbut on a proper install, I do that instead I assume01:10
BluedogI've done things a bit backwards as its not on my harddisk01:10
Linux_GaloreBluedog: if you dont get the nvidia startup flash screen then configure your setup with   sudo  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:10
Bluedogit works a treat now that i changed the restricted package01:10
Linux_GaloreBluedog: make sure you select dri  and nvidia when it shows up in the wizard01:11
Timasalright my last issue for the day: adept (or apt, if you prefer) is constantly listing 2 packages that have the status "Upgradable" and if I change the actual action to "Upgrade" throw a big nasty red "BREAK (Upgrade)" at me.. anyone have any idea how to fix this?  Packages are libcairo2 and the dev01:11
Linux_GaloreBluedog: aah so its working ??01:11
Bluedogchange restricted package to match uname -r version, install nvidia-glx from synaptic also, run nvidia-xconfig, restart x, and it works01:11
Bluedogyeah, sorry, i wasnt very clear :D hehe01:11
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Linux_GaloreBluedog: some times I find it bombs for some weird reason01:12
vyomandoes anybody know what has been changed or fixed in todays updates?01:12
Linux_GaloreBluedog: so you removed the old kernel too ??01:12
kkerwinHi. Where can I find out about the current status of the ATI fglrx issue?01:12
Linux_GaloreBluedog: sorry the kernel that doesnt have nvidia support01:12
stdinBluedog: if you try and install the linux-restricted-modules-2.6..... package, dose it want to install a linux-image-2.6..... of the same version ?01:12
kkerwinAnd/or how to fix it?01:12
Bluedogive not touched the kernels01:12
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stdinBluedog: in synaptic01:13
vyomanahh i just had problems with my nvida card after updating01:13
Linux_Galorevyoman: how so01:13
Bluedogi just swapped out linux-restricted-modules-whatever to match my actual kernel version, then it worked. The guide said to choose the correct one, the problem was a newer one was already installed01:13
vyomani usually have to reinstall the nvdia binary driver after xorg changes01:13
BluedogDidn't make me change any images, etc01:13
Linux_GaloreBluedog: yeah, wrong version though01:14
vyomanlike todays, however something is very different the boot process slightly slower and the my two screens load differently01:14
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franxgood morning all01:14
BluesKajevening franx :)01:15
Bluedogactually linux_galore, I think im talking crap01:15
geniiTimas still here?01:15
vyomani hate applying updates without knowing what they do (i know i keep saying that)01:15
Bluedogive actually updated the linux-restricted-modules thing01:15
Bluedognot downgraded it01:15
Timassure am genii01:15
BluedogI misread the version for the name01:15
franx=] 01:15
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franxi think ksudo is broken also01:16
Linux_GaloreBluedog: hmm01:16
Bluedogso I just needed to install the right (newer) restricted modules package for it to work01:16
Bluedogthanks a lot for your help :P01:16
franxand adept manager breaks every so often01:16
Linux_GaloreBluedog: some times the kernel for the nvidia stuff doesnt have the same numbering01:16
franxi did get wpa and wireless working01:16
vyomananyway for this with binary nvidia drivers (latest version) just run ok everything and run the installer again, this should work01:16
franxeven with using a 2.4ghz01:16
franxit did confuse me why my internet stopped working when someone called me though01:17
franxhaha01:17
geniiTimas found some interesting info on your router:01:17
geniihttp://www.von-oppen.com/zope/wiki/main/WlanRouter01:17
geniihttp://isl3893.sourceforge.net/01:17
Linux_GaloreBluedog: as long as it works, does glxgears work ?01:17
geniiit has a serial port interface for instance01:17
Bluedogokay.. I guess it just needed updating then? I must've put the wrong one on initially..01:17
Bluedoggood point,  shoulda checked that01:17
BluedogI got the nvidia splash so assumed its accelerated01:17
franxanyway i have a question about the nvidia drivers and television01:17
Linux_GaloreBluedog: not always01:18
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Bluedogok01:18
Bluedoggears works.. how do you get the FPS up?01:18
franxi want to use this box as a mythtv box, but when i plug the rca out to the card and the box the machine loads up on the tv then i get the light blue screen and nothing i can read01:18
Bluedogsure it used to show that..01:18
Linux_GaloreBluedog: look in the terminal01:18
franxanyone know the best way to have a tv as your 'monitor'01:18
franxnot as a second monitor etcc01:19
Linux_GaloreBluedog: run glxgears in a terminal it should show the fps speeds01:19
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Bluedogdoesnt seem to show01:19
franxi thought of maybe getting a vga-rca cable01:19
Linux_GaloreBluedog: do you see the gears rotating ?01:19
hawk_irc://irc.freenode.net/#winehq01:19
Bluedogyeah, gears is fine01:19
hawk_sorry01:19
Bluedogjust no fps :)01:19
Linux_GaloreBluedog: did you run it in a terminal ?01:20
Timasgenii: cool, but its already running a linux version so I don't need to do much with that :P01:20
Bluedogyeah01:20
BluesKajmythtv is is for tivo type apps ...TVTime works for me01:20
Linux_GaloreBluedog: ooh dont type  glxgears &01:20
geniiTimas on the first link he discusses a firmware bug which causes it to hang and there is a link to the firmware which fixes this etc01:20
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Bluedogjust sits with cursor on empty line..01:20
Linux_GaloreBluedog: just  glxgears01:21
BluesKajfgl_glxgears :)01:21
geniiTimas As well some info on reverting it to the "stock" firmware and so on01:21
Timasaside of that, considering my issue with apt/adept isn't going to be fixed today, I'm heading out! alarm for work goes in about 4.5 hours ;)   Genii thanks a lot, these links will prove very useful01:22
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TimasLater people!01:22
geniiTimas Have fun sleep well01:22
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Bluedogah well, the fact the gears run makes me think its accelerated01:22
jerry01I'm trying to find a name that wasn't registered despite jerry actually being my real name01:22
Bluedogthanks a lot for your help :)01:23
Linux_GaloreBluedog: if it doesnt run its not working, its that simple01:23
Bluedogawesome :D01:23
BluesKajhow about jerciho01:23
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Linux_GaloreBluedog: I think fgl_glxgears is for ati01:24
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BluedogYeah, not available01:24
BluesKajLinux_Galore, dunno for sure but i think it's also a test for 3d accel01:24
Linux_GaloreBluedog:  check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf  file make sure dri   is enabled01:25
BluesKajglxgears is 2 dimensional  fgl_glxgears is 3d01:25
Linux_GaloreBluedog: you can also disable compiz if your not using beryl to get better fps01:25
BluedogLinux_Galore: dri?01:26
stdinBluesKaj: glxinfo is a test for DRI (3D accell)01:26
BluesKajthe gears spin around in 3axes01:26
Bluedogseems noticeably faster since i restarted x, so I think its running01:26
Bluedogwell, im sure01:27
stdinand glxgears is the test for non ATI cards01:27
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BluesKajok01:27
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BluesKajit's just that the glxgears test is only a 2 dimension test on this pc01:27
MarcChow can I discover Windows machines behind my router and connect to them?01:28
stdinBluedog: if "glxinfo|grep direct" shows "direct rendering: Yes" , then it's working01:28
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Bluedogball01:28
Bluedogs01:28
Bluedogsays no :/01:28
Bluedogits doing something as i can run gears, I get the nvidia splash, and its a lot lot faster now...01:28
stdinBluesKaj: use the arrow keys to move the gears01:29
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BluesKajwhereas the fgl_glxgears test contains the gears in six sides of a cube all spinning at once while the cube spins as well01:29
stdinBluedog: aslong as it's working faster :)01:29
Bluedogis direct rendering easily enabled / required?01:29
Linux_GaloreBluedog: sudo  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   select dri in the modules section01:30
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karmikazeanyone know how to configure yakauke?01:30
Linux_GaloreBluedog: or manually add a single line01:30
geniiMarcC For accessing machines behind a router from over the internet you would normally need to set some things in the router to allow traffic to be directed thru it to whichever machine01:30
MarcCgenii: I am behind the same router01:31
Bluedogthanks :)01:31
MarcCgenii: is there some sort of router config I need to set up to see my peers on this router?01:31
Linux_GaloreBluedog:   just add Load "dri"   to  /etc/X11/xorg.conf   in the modules section01:31
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geniiMarcC If all the machines then are getting internal IP addresses on the same segment, you should be able to connect to them without too much problems. The windows boxes just need to be running Windows Networking and then from the linux box you use Samba01:32
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MarcCgenii: thanks, I'll give it a try01:33
Bluedogshould I enable kernel framebuffer?01:33
slophow do i format a windows NTFS drive (slave)?01:33
slopNTFS >> ext301:33
Linux_GaloreBluedog: although i find running the dpkg-reconfigure  thing seems to also edit some extra stuff in for you ie v4l01:33
geniislop You want to convert the NTFS drive to ext3?01:33
Linux_GaloreBluedog: yes01:34
stdinslop: sudo mke2fs -j /dev/hdb1 (if hdb1 is the NTFS partition)01:34
Bluedogta01:34
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Linux_GaloreBluedog: turn  v4l and dri on when it gets the the modules section01:34
slopstdin: thanks :01:34
geniistdin The partition type would be good if it said Linux instead of HPFS/NTFS01:35
slop:)01:35
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MarcCmy system settings window does not show the buttons at the top (show all, etc.) - is this fixable somewhere? I have to re-open it every time because there is no back button.01:35
stdinslop: make sure you use the right partition, as it can't be reversed, and make sure the NTFS partition is not mounted01:35
stdingenii: the partition type is set my the file system on it01:36
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Bluedogbrb restarting x :)01:36
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stdinMarcC: dose it have an "Overview" button ?01:37
MarcCstdin: nope, there are no buttons, just categories & icons01:38
geniistdin I've found it can get confusing if fdisk says one thing but the actual fs is something else entirely  :)01:38
stdingenii: when I've formatted (for example) a fat32 partition as ext3 with mke2fs -j, fdisk shows it as "Linux" after01:39
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franx!nvidia01:40
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:40
ninnghizidhaHello - I am on Kubuntu Edgy and i cant upload files to Flickr with Konqueror. Any ideas how to fix that? Am i the only one with that problem? it works quite well with firefox.01:40
BluedogCompleted that, still shows as turned off tho :(01:41
Linux_GaloreBluedog: did you reboot the whole machine to restart X ?01:41
Bluedognope, im on a livecd so im trying to iron out all the problems before formatting01:41
Bluedogrestarting means i lose the lot :P01:41
Bluedogwill be installing tomorrow though01:41
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Bluedognow ive got x up and figured that out, I may just leave it till then01:42
Linux_GaloreBluedog: yeah, have to make sure you tick the DRI [*]    box01:42
BluedogI did, and v4l01:42
Bluedogits now written into the .conf01:42
Bluedogassuming I need a reboot01:42
Linux_GaloreBluedog: the live CD has some limits though so it may not work01:42
matthew__hey is it possible to add a mouse gesture ext. to konqeror like we can with firefox?01:43
Linux_GaloreBluedog: no you log out or hit ctrl alt backspace01:43
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Bluedogyup, i did ctrl alt backspace, then startx01:43
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Linux_GaloreBluedog: look in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file   should be a line with Load "dri"  if not add it01:44
Bluedogyeah, its there =(01:45
BluedogI read that it's not supposed to be there for nvidia cards sometimes though, theres a seperate line that goes inside the device block in xorg.conf?01:45
Bluedogmaybe im wrong though01:45
Linux_GaloreBluedog: I would say its an issue with a live boot01:45
Bluedogyeah :)01:45
Linux_GaloreBluedog: works fine on all my machines01:46
Bluedogcool01:46
Bluedogthanks so much for your help man :P01:46
Linux_GaloreBluedog: and there all nvidia even my laptop01:46
Bluedognice01:46
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Linux_GaloreBluedog: feisty should setup the nvidia stuff by default in future (we hope)01:47
Bluedogawesome01:47
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Bluedogive met a lot of lost people with the same problems as me on forums via google, at least now I can tell them how I put it right :D01:47
matthew__hey guys, i got frostwire.deb now how would i quickly instal it?01:47
Kr4t05I'm having problems using the LiveCD to resize my linux partition.01:48
MarcChow do I start samba?01:48
Kr4t05QTParted hangs at "Scanning all disk partitons"01:48
Linux_Galorematthew_ :sudo dpkg -i frostwire*.deb01:48
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Linux_Galorematthew_: or just click on it01:49
matthew__ty01:49
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Linux_Galorematthew__: install kpackage, it makes life easy01:50
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matthew__ah ok, right click -> install package. thanks, just clickign on it opened it in windows with 3 files01:51
Bluedognight guys, thanks again01:52
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Linux_Galorematthew__: if you have kpackage installed and you click on a .deb it should ask you if you want to run the installer (doesnt for me because i have it hard set)01:52
Linux_Galorel8ter Bluedog01:54
hawk_dos aircrack work on kubuntu01:55
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Linux_Galorehawk_:  cant see why not it runs on Linux01:56
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Linux_Galorehawk_: http://freshmeat.net/projects/aircrack/01:56
muesli_hey guys01:57
hawk_ok just need to see01:57
AmadeoAnyone happen to have a Plantronics DSP-500 and have it fully working in Kubuntu?01:57
muesli_when starting firefox, it displays me a message, telling me that it couldn't find "/usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/locales/index-en_GB.html"01:57
muesli_am i missing some package?01:57
Linux_Galoremuesli_: yeah, that file02:00
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Linux_Galorehmm02:00
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muesli_Linux_Galore: that file isn't a package02:00
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mueslixLinux_Galore: besides it doesn't show up on packages.ubuntu.com02:01
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mueslixso i'm wondering if it's a missing dependancy or if there's some other borkage02:01
sleepy495How do I enable AIGLX in x.org 7.1?02:01
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stdinsleepy495: edgy?02:02
sleepy495yes02:02
Linux_Galoremueslix: actually it is lol,   lookup  firefox in adept make sure    mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb  is installed02:02
stdinsleepy495: it's easy :) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLXOnEdgy02:02
mueslixLinux_Galore: it is02:03
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stdinmueslix: it's in the package ubuntu-docs02:03
Linux_Galoremueslix: have you installed your own version of ff02:03
Linux_Galorestdin: weird place to put it02:04
stdinLinux_Galore: yeah, I had to dig around a but to find it :P02:04
Linux_Galorestdin: doesnt show up on my machine when i search for a matching file within the packages02:05
hawk_i am sorry but how do you use the makefile command02:05
mueslixstdin: usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/locales-ubuntu/index-en_GB.html is in ubuntu-docs, right?02:05
mueslixbut not the file i'm looking for.02:05
mueslixcorrect me if i'm mistaken.02:05
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matthewi get this message when trying to instal kpacage with adept: there as an error commiting changes. possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. what should i do?02:09
stdinmueslix: humm, let me have another look02:09
Linux_Galorestdin: I dont have it either but ff works fine02:10
hawk_what dos this mean ..... install: missing destination file operand after02:10
stdinmueslix: the only thing like it I can find is "edubuntu-artwork: usr/share/edubuntu-artwork/home/locales/index-en_GB.html"02:10
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Linux_Galoremueslix:   if your lazy just type   sudo  touch /usr/share/edubuntu-artwork/home/locales/index-en_GB.htm02:11
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Linux_Galoremueslix:   if your lazy just type   sudo  touch /usr/share/edubuntu-artwork/home/locales/index-en_GB.html  oops02:12
mueslixLinux_Galore: well, that's not exactly the point. if it's an error one should fix it ;-)02:12
stdinmueslix: maybe this chould work too "sudo update-alternatives --config firefox-homepage" and it should be set to "/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kubuntu/about-kubuntu/index.html"02:12
Linux_Galoremueslix: yeah but its rubbish02:12
Linux_Galoremueslix: I dont even have that file02:12
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Toxis there any program to learn English in kubuntu ?02:13
mueslixLinux_Galore: of course i can just change firefox's homepage ;-)02:13
mueslixanyways, i'll see if i can find it still and will file a bug report.02:13
mueslixjust wanted to check if it's some weird borkage. thanks guys02:13
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matthewhow do i fix adept could not commit changes error? i have full admin access.02:17
matthewjust trying to instal kpackage02:17
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Linux_Galoresudo  apt-get install kpackage02:18
Linux_Galoreif that fails run  sudo dpkg  --configure -a  then   sudo apt-get update   then  apt-get install kpackage02:19
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Linux_Galoremattew: also turn adept off if your using apt-get at the command line02:20
matthewok, its working now that i use konsole and type command line.02:20
matthewbut would that fix future error message like that when tryign to use adept again?02:21
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Linux_Galorematthew: run the first two steps in my previous fix02:21
matthewok will give it a try, ty very much.02:22
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karmikazecan someone please tell me what this weather app is:    http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=38718&file1=38718-1.jpg&file2=38718-2.jpg&file3=38718-3.jpg&name=Yakuake-Iced02:24
phil_g02:24
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TheDebuggerkarmikaze: superkaramba i think02:25
karmikazeta02:25
Linux_Galorekarmikaze: its Crystal Weather applet running under super-karamba02:26
karmikazety02:26
Linux_Galorekarmikaze: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=638402:27
karmikazenice02:27
Linux_Galoresorry Liquid Weather applet ro be more exact02:27
Linux_Galoreto*02:27
Linux_Galorekarmikaze: if you look on the left hand side click on karamba02:28
karmikazehm02:28
Linux_Galorekarmikaze: should show all the applet stuff you can run under super-karamba02:29
karmikazecool02:29
Linux_Galorekarmikaze: super-keramba can download and install the applets for you automatically, it has a built on applet search and install thing02:29
karmikazeooh02:30
karmikazenice02:30
karmikazeyeah02:31
Linux_Galorekarmikaze: you may have to turn superkaramba of though when playing games02:31
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karmikazeoh02:31
karmikazewell doesnt matter, everything else is broken on here :P02:31
Linux_Galorekarmikaze: it can create graphical conflicts with games that want to use all the resources they can02:31
karmikazenod02:31
karmikazeberyl is why i dont play games :P02:32
Linux_Galorekarmikaze: karamba is a bit intensive when it refreshed some of the applets02:32
karmikazeok02:32
Linux_Galorerefreshes*02:32
Thehound666think I found the evil process that did it and just replaced it with something else for the purpose02:32
Thehound666ATI's display drivers02:32
Thehound666using the open ones now02:33
Linux_Galorekarmikaze: it will work better in kde4 though its better intergrated02:33
karmikazenod02:33
karmikazethe install doesnt seem to work02:33
karmikazeit just brings up the website02:33
Linux_Galorekarmikaze: yeah you may have to manually install some of them02:33
Linux_Galorekarmikaze: some have a setup script you have to run ie region02:34
karmikazehrm02:34
karmikazeok02:34
Linux_Galorekarmikaze: I dont run it because it feels a bit too hacky for me02:34
karmikazesure does heh02:35
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Linux_Galorekarmikaze: then again if your running xgl its going to be super hacky lol02:35
karmikazei dunno whats up, most of my finer graphics stuff seems tobe broken, and update is prompting to remove my nvidia-glx which is making me nervous02:35
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Thehound666use the open source drivers anyone who uses ATI cards02:36
karmikazeohhh02:36
hawk_what are some cool stuff that i can get for this os02:36
Linux_Galorekarmikaze: means you still have the none nvidia kernel installed, remove it and it will stop that02:36
Thehound666ATI's own just went psycho on me I found out02:36
karmikazeactually now that im looking it seems it doesnt know the name of my card anymore02:36
karmikazeglxinfo i mean02:37
karmikazesomething got buggered big time...02:37
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karmikazeoh well guess updating cant make things any worse than they already are...02:37
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matthewadept is failign to laod for me. i didnt even get to enter password. any idea what is wrong?02:38
angrydillq02:39
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mueslixhm02:43
mueslixafter rebooting, kdm shows up on both of my screens and everything's fine. as soon as i login the left screen turns of and kde starts up on one screen.02:43
mueslixwhat could be wrong there?02:43
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matthewwish i could help but im really really new to this os02:46
pip`how does one decompress a rar file in kubuntu ?02:47
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ninnghizidhainstall rar-unfree02:47
ninnghizidha:)02:47
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Linux_Galoremueslix: do you have two screens setup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:50
mueslixLinux_Galore: yes and it was working till this reboot02:50
mueslixLinux_Galore: as mentioned, kdm still shows up on both screens properly02:51
mueslixas soon as i login and the splash screen shows up it's disabling the left monitor02:51
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Thehound666I put in a 9250 on the advice of you guys but I overlooked the driver as the source of my issues. Seems sorted by using the open source driver02:51
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Linux_Galoremueslix: so you have Identifier "Screen0"  and Identifier "Screen1" in the xorg.conf  file02:52
mueslixi got nvidia's twinview02:52
mueslixnot the real xinerama02:52
Linux_Galoremueslix:can you check for me02:52
mueslixnope i do not therefore02:52
Linux_Galoremueslix: then thats your problem you only have a setup for one screen02:53
mueslixLinux_Galore: but you know how twinview works?02:53
phil_im new to linux is there a simlpe faq for xgl or somthing similar?02:54
mueslixLinux_Galore: so shall i just add a fake second screen or what?02:54
Linux_Galoremueslix: you mean "dual monitor"  yes02:54
mueslixnope, i mean nvidia's twinview. which is not the same as xinerama02:54
hannah_how does one improve the look of fonts displayed on a notebook lcd screen?  text looks coarse and choppy.02:54
stdin!xgl | phil_02:55
ubotuphil_: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems02:55
mueslixLinux_Galore: brb02:55
stdinphil_: do you have an avidia or ATI card?02:55
phil_nvidia, kinda old though02:56
phil_geforce 2 ithink02:56
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mueslixLinux_Galore: so what do you suggest? just adding a fake second screen?!02:56
angrydillhannah - Do you know if "anti-aliasing" is turned on in the KDE Control Center (Apperance > Fonts)?02:57
Linux_Galoremueslix:02:57
Linux_GaloreOption "TwinView" "true"02:57
Linux_Galore- Option "ConnectedMonitor" "CRT, CRT"02:57
Linux_Galore- Option "TwinViewOrientation" "LeftOf"02:57
Linux_Galore- Option "MetaModes" "1280x960,1280x1024"02:57
Linux_Galoremueslix: is that in xorg.conf02:57
stdinphil_: you need the binary nvidia driver for XGL, have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia02:57
mueslixLinux_Galore: yup, that's what i got02:57
angrydillAnti-aliasing smoothes the fonts on screen02:57
mueslixLinux_Galore: and as mentioned, x11 knows both screens, otherwise kdm wouldn't properly show up on both screens02:58
Linux_Galoremueslix: it will also fail if there isnt enough ram on the card02:58
mueslixLinux_Galore: the trouble starts when kde starts up02:58
mueslixLinux_Galore: uhm, it has been working for several years now02:58
mueslixup to this reboot02:58
angrydillAlso, if you aren't using the full (highest) resoultion on the Lcd, fonts may look distorted02:58
Linux_Galoremueslix: kdm uses less ram than the desktop02:58
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mueslixLinux_Galore: gnah, don't try to bullshit me :D02:58
zografHow to compile mplayer for kubuntu 6.10? (with support ass subtitles) Give the reference on "howto" please.02:59
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Delphinusdoes amarok need write access to read the tags off mp3 files please?03:01
Linux_Galoremueslix: check the logs, see what error it spits out03:01
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stdinDelphinus: no, not to read03:01
Delphinusfor some reason adding mp3s from a read only network share it wont get the artist information :(03:02
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hannah_how does one improve the look of fonts displayed on a notebook lcd screen?  text looks coarse and choppy.03:02
angrydillhannah - Do you know if "anti-aliasing" is turned on in the KDE Control Center (Apperance > Fonts)? Anti-aliasing smoothes the fonts on screen. Also, if you aren't using the full (highest) resoultion on the Lcd, fonts may look distorted03:03
Thehound666when you guys are ready, more n00b questions, well just 1.03:03
Thehound666any idea how to run a .jar executable under Kubuntu?03:04
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Thehound666works fine under Windows but haven't made it work so far here03:05
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angrydillHas anyone here used kmail as a client for a Dovecot IMAP server?03:05
stdinThehound666: .jar is Java, so you need to install the SUN Java JVM03:05
Thehound666can't say I have03:06
Thehound666the alternate JVM from the repository is not good enough?03:06
mueslixLinux_Galore: now, interestingly enough a reboot fixed it03:06
Thehound666works for my browser ok03:06
pip`MS's day are  numbered  !03:06
Linux_Galoremueslix: hmm03:07
pip`wow Edgy takes a long time to install03:07
stdinThehound666: you can try it and see: java -jar filename.jar03:07
Linux_Galoremueslix: wasnt loading a module03:07
Thehound666ok from Konsole I assume03:07
mueslixLinux_Galore: nope, checked that. nvidia module was loaded fine and the dependancies were fine too, since i just ran depmod -a to be sure.03:07
ranceis anyone a sound expert, I've tried two different sound cards and no matter what I do, I can't get sound from either of them, but both sound cards are properly detected at boot and the correct modules loaded, channels arent muted, but still no sound.03:07
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stdinThehound666: yes, you assume correctly :)03:07
pip`pip pip purray!03:07
mueslixLinux_Galore: no clue what it was, but it def. wasn't the xorg.conf03:07
Linux_Galoremueslix: OS weirdness lol03:08
mueslixLinux_Galore: nor the ram ;-)03:08
Linux_Galoremueslix: should say in the logs though why it failed03:08
mueslixLinux_Galore: that's the thing. it _didn't_ fail. x.org booted up nicely with two screens.03:09
mueslixLinux_Galore: kde disabled one of them on _purpose_03:09
Linux_Galoremueslix: so the fix is check xorg,conf and reboot lol03:10
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Linux_Galoremueslix: sounds like windows03:10
angrydillRance, In older (3.1?) versions of KDE, the "aRts" daemon used to interfere with my ability to get sound out of non-KDE apps.  I don't know if that's still a problem, but kill-ing the daemon got them to work03:10
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ranceI cant get any sound from any app, kde or otherwise03:11
mueslixany clue how i can change konqueror's default fileview to detailed list instead of icons?03:11
Thehound666is sun's Java as bad for Linux as Windows?03:12
Linux_Galoremueslix: dont laugh about the ram, I had one occasions were twinview worked, did an updated install edited the xorg.conf file and only one screen would work,  change the resolution down one setting and it worked03:12
Thehound666it didn't like my Java03:12
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mueslixLinux_Galore: now that is possible.03:12
Linux_Galoremueslix: logs showed the card was running out of ram03:12
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mueslixLinux_Galore: what's not possible is: if kdm already shows up, it will eat exactly as much ram as kde.03:12
mueslixa pixel is a pixel03:12
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mueslix(talking about ram on the graphics card of course, not general ram)03:13
Bal0ohey again03:13
angrydillI run my checkbook app on Sun Java 1.4 on Mandrake and Kubuntu, and It's been rock stable.  Eclipse IDE too.03:14
Bal0oI have a quick Q. Is there any point using 64bit ubuntu atm? I've heard bad things about compatibility/drivers and the like, so should I stick to 32bit?03:14
Bal0oare there any big benefits to 64bit..03:14
stdinmueslix: try changing/adding "ViewMode=konq_iconview" to "ViewMode=konq_treeview" in ~.kde/share/config/konq to get the list view03:15
angrydillBragging rights... for a little while ;)03:15
stdinBal0o: if you don't have 4GB+ RAM, 32bit is better for you03:15
Bal0ook, thx :)03:16
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stdinThehound666: SUNs java isn't "bad" for linux03:16
Bal0othis is so much better than the last time I installed mandrake, back in the day :P03:16
Bal0ojust trying to choose between ubuntu/kubuntu, or both, obviously03:17
stdinBal0o: yes, much03:17
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angrydillKDE can do everything Gnome can, and more! /me dodges flames03:17
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stdinangrydill: you won't get flamed for KDE love in here :)03:18
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stdinBal0o: the desktop install CD is also a live CD, so you can test it out before installing it03:18
Bal0onice one03:19
Thehound666I don't understand why people do flame.03:19
Thehound666It's pretty and light03:19
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Thehound666Windows love you might get flamed for03:21
Thehound666lol03:21
Linux_GaloreWindows: me love you long time only $503:22
Thehound666lol03:22
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Thehound666I'd fully switch if we had the gaming support03:23
matthewhey guys is it possible to get mouse gesture in konqueror? or do i have to use FF?03:23
Linux_GaloreThehound666: Ive got WoW running now thank to Codeweavers 6.003:23
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Daisuke_Idoall i have to add is that kde is better on resources at 3.5.5 than gnome is at 2.16.  the gnome team still wasn't able to catch up, and kde 4 is fast approaching, which will be excellent03:24
Linux_Galore"with sound"03:24
Lam_my second hard drive has bad sectors that corrupted the linux partition and i want to somehow fix this. what's the best approach?03:24
angrydillAnybody use Cedega for Windows gaming on Linux?03:24
matthewhow do get codeweavers?03:24
Jucatomatthew: mouse gestures are in System Settings -> Accessibility -> Input Actions.03:24
Daisuke_Idoangrydill: not until i can play the longest journey flawlessly.03:24
Thehound666Cedega is good software but not free and they don't contribute all their code03:25
Linux_Galorematthew:   www.codeweavers.com  or <cough> bittorent <cough>03:25
Thehound666still does not work with certain games though03:25
matthewty03:25
Linux_GaloreThehound666: try none because they are not GPL anymore03:25
Linux_GaloreThehound666: also its not based on wine anymore because of that fact03:26
matthewok another question, is there bittorrent built in for kubuntu?03:26
Thehound666Ktorrent03:26
Daisuke_Idoor azureus if you're a masochist.03:26
Thehound666lol03:26
stdin_Lam_: when the partition is not mounted use: sudo fsck -f -c /dev/hdb1 (if hdb1 is the partition)03:26
matthewty found it03:26
Thehound666Azureus is good for a dedicated box because it does everything well03:26
Thehound666it's just a pig03:27
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Daisuke_Idoyes03:27
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Linux_GaloreI find azureus is faster than ktorrent still but uses heaps more resources03:27
Linux_Galorethan ktorrent03:27
kubunterocan Kopete handle cross IM protocols?03:27
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Daisuke_Idoif i were to run a box to JUST download torrents, i'd use azureus03:27
Linux_Galorekubuntero: it handles most of them03:28
Daisuke_Idobut i do so miss the rss features of utorrent03:28
Thehound666myself I use my boxes for everything and ktorrent is more than good enough03:28
Linux_GaloreDaisuke_Ido: ktorrent now has rss03:28
kubunteroLinux_Galore: THere are only two that I know of :)03:28
Daisuke_Idoevery time a new ep is released, BAM, automatically downloaded03:28
Daisuke_Ido...really now.03:28
kubunteroAIM and ICQ03:28
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kubunteroYAhoo and MSN03:28
Linux_GaloreDaisuke_Ido: its in the new unstable branch03:28
Thehound666yup 2.1 beta does03:28
Thehound666it's not allowed at all trackers yet because some do not allow release candidates03:29
Thehound666or betas03:29
Linux_Galorekubuntero: I use gaim for yahoo and msn03:29
Thehound6662.1rc1 now03:29
kubunteroLinux_Galore: I don't think that Gaim handles those03:29
Linux_Galorekubuntero: gaim will do yahoo/msn//irc  and a few others03:29
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kubunteroLinux_Galore: HOld on03:29
Linux_Galorekubuntero: gaim even does Yahoo chat rooms03:30
kubunteroI'm talking about using a yahoo account to speak to someone on MSN03:30
stdin_kubuntero: kopete works with (amongst others): yahoo,msn,jabber,google talk,icq,ric ...03:30
Linux_Galorestdin: yeah but not the chat rooms03:30
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kubunteroYou know that Yahoo and MSN signed an agreement for cross protocol chat?03:30
stdin_kubuntero: you can be logged in on more than one account at the same time too, yes03:30
Linux_Galorekubuntero: yeah, Ive never tried that, I think its just a single login thing03:31
Thehound666I actually like Kopete03:31
kubunterostdin_: NOt what I'm talking about :)03:31
stdin_It even imports all of your contacts03:31
Lam_stdin: ok my drive is starting it's scan. hopefully it'll work because i've tried pretty much everything. i'll get back to you. thanks03:31
Thehound666this is one of the few OS I like the preinstalled software on03:31
kubunteroThehound666: Enjoy it one of my most hated K programs03:31
kubunterostdin_: Right I can see that it does cross ICQ AIM03:31
Schuenemannanyone knows where amule saves downloaded files?03:31
kubunteroI'm logged into ICQ and I can see my AIM list03:32
stdin_Lam_: It will take a while to complete, so just relax and give it time :)03:32
kubunteroCan it do the same with Yahoo?03:32
Thehound666why is Kopete so bad? even webcam works03:32
Thehound666and it's stable03:32
Linux_Galorekubuntero: you can login to all of them at the same time03:32
stdin_kubuntero: yes, all your contacts from your account will be imported and displayed03:32
kubunteroLinux_Galore: I'd rather stay the hell off of MSN03:33
kubunteroNearly everyone i knwo on there I'd rather not talk to03:33
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Linux_Galorekubuntero:yeah, Ive stopped using Spamsn03:33
Thehound666meh better than Stalkhoo if you've been in their chats even once03:34
Linux_Galorekubuntero: Ive been using the google chat lately between the offices03:34
kubunteroGoogle chat is great03:34
kubunteroLarge factor why YAho and MSN gave up :)03:34
Linux_Galorekubuntero: with google chat you can have your own local server setup so you dont have to relay through google just to PM down stairs03:35
kubunteroI know ;)03:35
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Linux_Galorekubuntero: I dont trust MSN and Yahoo, they will happily hand over all your data for no logical reason to anyone who asks for it03:36
kubunteroRegardless I have two teachers on MSN who I'd love to chat to through Yahoo03:37
Thehound666yeah but legally questionable stuff I use IRC+SSL+SSH+Fish03:37
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Linux_Galoreright now there is a guy sitting in prison in china because he is a pro democracy supported getting beaten up and tortured thanks to Yahoo03:37
Jucatohm... getting -offtopic guys03:38
Thehound666lol I'm in there if they want to follow03:38
SchuenemannMSN sucks03:38
Daisuke_Idoamen03:39
Thehound666I meant03:39
Thehound666!offtopic03:39
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!03:39
Thehound666I'm in there too03:39
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Thehound666:)03:39
SchuenemannI would, but it's almost midnight03:39
Daisuke_Idoi'd even rather use the AIM protocol (even on windows i refused to actually use the aim client, opting for gaim instead)03:39
endo602can someone help me set up an ident?03:39
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stdin_endo602: why do you need it?03:40
Linux_Galoreendo602: ??03:40
kubunteroendo602: Press Tab?03:40
Daisuke_Idobut after switching to kubuntu, i've gone with kopete, as it's a fine client that works well with everything i need03:40
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Linux_GaloreI dont like the UI on kopete03:41
Schuenemannme neither03:41
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kubunteroI don't like loads of crap on Kopete but It's still a baby so I give it teething marks03:41
Linux_Galoreits amazing konversation has the UI right (they basically copied gaim)03:41
Lam_i love konversation03:42
kubunteroLinux_Galore: Konversation?03:42
Lam_it looks better than mirc, but it's not as useful imo03:42
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Linux_Galorekubuntero: irc client03:42
SchuenemannI agree03:42
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Schuenemannmirc is more useful03:42
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: wait till  more plugins appear03:42
kubunteroI know I'm using it :-) Just trying to see how it releates to gaim03:42
SchuenemannI hope so03:42
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kubunterostdin_: remember lines on Alt+tab?03:43
Linux_Galorekubuntero: were talking about the UI in kopete and gaim03:43
Schuenemannand I hope nobody makes that stupid plugin that message the channel with the sound he's using03:43
Linux_Galorekubuntero: konversation is more like gaim03:43
hawk_well bye everyone.... thank you for your help03:43
Schuenemannmessages*03:43
Lam_i like kopete's gui, but gaim has so many more features :(03:43
Lam_i'd rather use kopete but gaim's just more useful03:43
Linux_GaloreLam_: its more mature03:43
Schuenemannsince I only have msn now, I'm using amsn03:43
Schuenemannbut its GUI is VERY slow03:44
stdin_kubuntero: not quite :( , although it's supposed to, but it may be missing some lib somewhere, but it dose on switching desktops03:44
Linux_Galoregive it time, konversation and kopete will add the features that users ask for03:44
Lam_stdin_: do you have an estimate as to how long it should take to run fsck -f -c? i calculated 15 hours :-/03:44
kubunterostdin_: complain to Sho_ :)03:44
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stdin_Lam_: It depends on the size your partition03:45
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Lam_stdin_: mine's roughly 170GB03:45
kubunteroRob-West: From many years of experince I can tell you it hates you too03:45
stdin_kubuntero: I'm gonna file a bug report anyway, because i _really_ want that feature :P03:45
kubunteroThe world and it's dog wants that feature03:46
Linux_GaloreLam_: it depends one the hardisk how fast fsck happens03:46
stdin_Lam_: could take a *long* time, have a nap03:46
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Linux_GaloreLam_: also ext3 isnt the fastest to run fsck anyway03:46
stdin_Linux_Galore: it's checking for bad blacks, it's gonna take a while :p03:47
Linux_Galorestdin_:  rebuilt my ZFS partition (120Gb)  dam its fast03:47
Linux_Galorestdin_: totally blows ext3 away for fsxk03:48
Linux_Galorefsck03:48
stdin_Linux_Galore: ZSF, don't remember that one?03:49
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stdin_XFS maybe, but noy ZFS03:49
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mueslixstdin_: zfs is sun's iirc03:49
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Linux_Galorestdin_: its the new super duper fs from Sun, runs on BSD and OpenSolaris (nexenta)03:49
stdin_hmm, off to wikipedia I go :P03:50
Jucatoanyone know the command to display disk usage, but only show the directories, not recursively into the directories?03:50
Linux_GaloreJucato: df -Th ?03:50
stdin_Jucato: du -sh dirname/ (for human readable)03:50
Jucatohm.. trying03:50
Linux_Galoreooh the directories too hmm03:50
stdin_-s = summery03:50
Jucatofor example, I just want to see the total size of /var, /usr, /boot, etc03:51
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Jucatosomething like ls -l but shows the real sizes of those directories... without displaying the contents of those directories...03:51
stdin_Jucato: df -sh /var /usr /boot03:52
Jucatohm... thanks I'll try that03:52
Jucatoer.. no -s option03:52
Kr4t05Okay, so I have a question for you guys.03:52
matthewanyone know what crossover-office is?03:52
Schuenemannopenoffice?03:53
Schuenemanncrossover is the name?03:53
stdin_matthew: it's the "pro" version03:53
matthewah i see.03:53
Schuenemannis it paid?03:53
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Kr4t05Earlier, I tried to resize my EXT2 partition to make room for some new games I bought for Windows (I have a weakness, this is true.) However, when I try to use (QT/G)Parted from the LiveCD, it hangs.03:53
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Linux_GaloreJucato: du -hs directory_name03:54
mueslixKr4t05: wouldn't suggest doing that anyways;-)03:54
stdin_Schuenemann: ifaik the normal one and the pro are both paid versions, just -office has better support for MS Office03:54
Kr4t05mueslix: What should I do, then?03:54
JucatoLinux_Galore: thanks03:55
Ash-FoxEver since I upgraded Avahi I have had problems resolving things in various programs. How does one install a older version of something again under apt-get?03:55
stdin_Kr4t05: try using the gparted cd03:55
mueslixKr4t05: get a new hdd or a wii/36003:55
Zero_KelvinHiyo. Just wondering if anyone knows how to get the Embeddable Image Viewer in Konqueror to automatically loop animated gifs. For example, I'm on 4chan, checking out a mucked with version of that squirrel from Move Your Feet blowing stuff up and the gif loads, displaying each frame as it comes in, but doesn't replay it when the download is complete. I could use the Gwenview component, but, yeah...03:55
stdin_Ash-Fox: apt-get install package=version03:55
Linux_GaloreJucato: made me have to think lol03:56
Ash-Foxstdin, thanks03:56
Kr4t05mueslix: I don't have $250+ to spend on a Wii or 360, and even if I did, there are some PC games the I prefer to their console counterparts.03:56
JucatoLinux_Galore: ehehe I was scratching my head too much already....03:56
Kr4t05mueslix: And, I also play some PC-only games.03:56
Linux_GaloreJucato: du  is one of those tools you forget03:56
Kr4t05So, thanks, but no thanks.03:56
mueslixhehe03:56
JucatoLinux_Galore: yeah... I was always thinking of df df df03:56
Kr4t05Also, I already have a 150GB hard drive for Linux. Hence the reason I wanted to resize it.03:57
mueslixjust saying, wouldn't go to resize my partitions03:57
Kr4t05mueslix: It's always worked for me before. That's why I'm presenting you with this problem, now.03:57
Linux_GaloreJucato: I had to open man because I forgot the switches03:57
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Kr4t05Logic dictates that, if it works once, it should work multiple times.03:57
mueslixKr4t05: but yeah as stdin mentioned, try the livecd03:57
mueslixKr4t05: just like it dictates: it failed once, i'll never try it again ;-)03:58
morghanphoenixWhen your system crashes and you have to hard reboot, it comes back up saying kontact is allready running, how to you stop it so you can start it again?03:58
Kr4t05mueslix: I intend to, but not until after I chew you out. ;P03:58
Linux_Galoremorghanphoenix: killall -9 kontact03:58
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mueslixmorghanphoenix: there is a locking file stuck on your hdd03:59
mueslixdelete it and you'll be able to restart it03:59
Linux_Galoremorghanphoenix: or do it the windows way and use  kdesu ksysguard03:59
morghanphoenixno processes killed03:59
mueslixLinux_Galore: nope, he already rebooted.03:59
mueslixLinux_Galore: read what he's saying :P03:59
Linux_Galoremorghanphoenix: aaah its a lock file issue03:59
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morghanphoenixso, just remove the lock file like when adept crashes?04:01
Linux_Galore~/.kde/share/config/kresources/contact04:01
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Linux_Galorefrom memory04:01
Linux_Galoreshould have a lock file there04:01
morghanphoenixstdrc is the oly file listed04:02
morghanphoenixand I have hiddens shown04:02
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draikI can't seem to get audio to come out of my laptop04:03
intelikeyLinux_Galore contact or kontact ?04:03
morghanphoenixkontact04:03
mueslixmorghanphoenix: is it kontact itself or kmail?04:03
mueslixor some other component of kontact04:03
morghanphoenixkontact it says, the warning regards kmail losing emails.04:03
draikHey there inteki04:04
mueslixthe kmail lock file would be ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/lock04:04
draikHere there intelikey04:04
intelikeyhere there draik04:04
draikintelikey: everywhere a draik draik???04:04
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Linux_Galoreno the directory is called "contact"04:04
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morghanphoenixKontact already seems to be running on another display on this machine. Running Kontact more than once is not supported by the Metakit backend and can cause the loss of archived articles and crashes at startup. You should disable the archive for now unless you are sure that Kontact is not already running.04:05
ctothejhow do I install grub onto another hard drive?04:05
morghanphoenixForce access or disable archive are the options04:05
Jucato!grub04:05
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:05
Zero_KelvinAnd if anyone's wondering why I don't just use the Gwenview component it's because I can't view an animated gif until the whole thing loads and for some reason several gifs I've tried to save (not by right clicking on teh image, it's not an option in the menu) by clicking on Location -> Save As will only give me the option to save one frame as a PNG. (?!)04:05
intelikeyctothej sudo grub-install (address)04:05
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Linux_Galoremorghanphoenix: can be one of two things, something is still running in the backround ie check with "kdesu ksysguard"  or a lock file is active04:06
draikJucato: How is it going?04:06
draikJucato: I still haven't gotten my laptop's audio to work04:06
draik:(04:06
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Zero_KelvinI'm trying to keep a nice and simple unified desktop environment thing going here by not installing anything I don't need from outside the KDE family you know. :)04:07
ctothejIntellkey: is (address) something like "/dev/sdv"?04:07
ctothejsdc rather04:07
Jucatodraik: doing fine here... sad to hear you have no sound yet :(04:07
zografWhat time will be compiling mplayer on barton 3200 + (sorry i am use el. transleytor) ^_^04:07
intelikeyctothej yes   or  (hd0)  in grub nomanclature04:07
draikJucato: Yeah. I want to know when I get a message on my IMs, but no audio04:07
matthewhow do i read rar files? sudo apt-get instal ???04:08
ctothejIntellkey: how do I find out which hd# /dev/sdc is?04:08
intelikeyctothej cat /boot/grub/device*04:08
Jucatomatthew: install "unrar"04:08
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matthewty04:08
morghanphoenixno kontact or kmail in the sysguard04:08
intelikey!rar04:08
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free04:08
ctothejIntellkey: great thanks. going to do that now.04:09
morghanphoenixshould I update the database and slocate lock?04:09
Zero_KelvinUnrar-free gave me trouble with Ark not being able to find the unrar executable and several Rar 3.0 archives failing to open. Use unrar-free only if you're really uptight about free software, in my opinion.04:10
intelikeymorghanphoenix find ~/ -name lock04:10
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morghanphoenixack, kabc, kmail, akregator & opera all have lock files.04:10
morghanphoenixWhat is kabc?04:11
Linux_Galorewhat makes me suspicious about it being a lock file issue is kontact usually tells you if its a lock file issue04:11
mueslixmorghanphoenix: the k addressbook04:11
JucatoKDE adressbook c____04:11
mueslixdelete the kabc, kmail and akregator lock files04:11
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mueslixand kontact should start up again04:12
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angrydillI'm having a big problem with kmail (1.9.1) right now.  Whenever it connects to my IMAP server, it deletes all messages in the inbox!  No problem with T-Bird as the client.  Any ideas?04:12
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Linux_Galorekcontrol really needs a lockfile manager04:13
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matthew!sh04:13
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands04:13
morghanphoenixI installed the ati card and it keeps crashing on me every time I try to run anything that uses direct rendering04:13
Linux_Galoreangrydill: aaah you havent told it to keep a local copy04:13
morghanphoenixNever had problems with lock files untill I actually had to reboot the thing04:14
morghanphoenixGot it, Kontact back up and running04:14
morghanphoenixThanks04:14
morghanphoenixStupid ATi, dropping support for my video card04:14
intelikeysystem managers master key#  sudo find / -name lock -exec rm {} \;      <<<< not a real good idea.04:14
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BluesKajwhich card , morghanphoenix?04:15
morghanphoenixRadeon 700004:15
dtganybody got an idea why it won't connect automatically to my router with DHCP, wired, on startup? I have to manually go to Network Settings and disable/activate eth0, and then it connects04:15
method|when i try to open up adept i get this error: Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.04:15
method|even when i restart04:15
method|i keep getting the same error04:16
draikdtg: check both regular user and Administrator Mode04:16
morghanphoenixUpgraded from the GeeForce 4000 because it was a better card, now I don't have direct rendering and I crash when I rin 3d games.04:16
method|how do I close whatever process has my database locked?04:16
draikmethod|: CTRL+ESC04:16
dtgdraik, what?04:16
Jucato!adept crash fix | method|04:16
ubotumethod|: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'04:16
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method|cool thanks04:17
kubunteromorghanphoenix: You are golden :)04:17
intelikey!adeptcrashfix04:17
ubotuIf adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'04:17
morghanphoenixeh?04:17
kubunteromorghanphoenix: The opensource drivers work great with that card04:17
BluesKajhttp://www.marteydodoo.com/2006/08/29/installing-binary-ati-drivers-on-ubuntu-edgy/04:17
draikdtg: nevermind, I forgot there is only Administrator Mode for accessing the Network section04:17
dtgyes04:17
draikdtg: sorry.04:17
dtg:(04:17
kubunteroZero_Kelvin: What's the problem?04:17
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dtganybody got an idea why it won't connect automatically to my router with DHCP, wired, on startup? I have to manually go to Network Settings and disable/activate eth0, and then it connects04:18
method|Jucato: what does that command do exactly?04:18
morghanphoenixThe ATi drivers from the howto?04:18
Jucatomethod|: it unlocks your APT database04:18
Jucatomethod|: so that you could use APT and Adept again04:19
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Zero_Kelvinkubuntero: I want to view animated gifs in Konqueror after they've downloaded, i.e. I want them to loop when viewed by the Embeddable Image Viewer, OR I'd like Gwenview's Embeddable KPart to allow me to save them as gif's and not one frame PNG's. Getting either of those things to happen would be nice without me having to diddle about with viewing Gwenview Kpart, then switching to Embeddable to save.04:20
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matthew!sh04:20
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands04:20
kubunteroZero_Kelvin: can you give an example?04:20
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angrydillLinux_Galore: is keeping a local copy an option in the kmail account settings?  I can't seem to find it.  Thanks.04:21
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kubunterouse y-Windows!! It's one letter better04:22
morghanphoenixI like xscreensaver better, more nice little screensaves, but it always has writing visable through my screensaver when I try to use it with KDE.04:23
Zero_Kelvinkubuntero: Okay, say I view an animated gif on its own. If the embeddable viewing Kpart I have set is the Embeddable Image Viewer then I see each frame of the gif as it loads, then it stops and does not loop, the Konqeror throbber still rotating away. If I have Konqeror using Gwenview's Kpart then the image loads and loops (but doesn't animate until it's all downloaded) and when I try to save it with a right click it doesn't offer a save option.04:23
Zero_KelvinClicking Location -> Save As results in it only offering me an ability to save as a static PNG.04:23
Zero_KelvinBRB, going for a smoke.04:23
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kubunteroZero_Kelvin: URL?04:24
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ctothejIntelikey: Tried rebooting and grub is telling me that it cant mount the partition...04:25
morghanphoenixI like lilo myself.04:25
intelikeyctothej what is the partition ?04:25
kubunteroI miss Lilo :(04:25
intelikeyi use lilo04:26
farkrslackware uses lilo still default04:26
intelikey!lilo04:26
ubotulilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.04:26
kubunteroRIP lilo04:26
ctothejIntelikey: grub is looking for /dev/sdc104:26
morghanphoenixMy slackware system uses lilo04:26
intelikeyctothej fdisk -l /dev/sdc04:27
morghanphoenixIt's set up with boot themes and runs at full-screen, full-colour04:27
intelikeylet me see sdc104:27
Zero_Kelvinkubuntero: Any animated gif. They loop in Firefox, not Konqueror's Embeddable Kpart.04:27
ctothejIntelikey: I installed grub on /dev/sdc , which is hd204:27
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morghanphoenixLooks really purtee and actually gives me time to choose my boot partition by default04:27
kubunteroZero_Kelvin: still gimmie a URL so we are looking at the same thing04:27
morghanphoenixsdc is the 2nd hard drive?04:28
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ctothejIntelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1134/04:28
kubunteromorghanphoenix: Possibly third04:29
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Zero_Kelvinkubuntero: Strange. I went to get you a URL - http://cgi.4chan.org/gif/src/1168430540964.gif (guy falling off of a tower) - and now that I've downloaded it once and it's pulled it from cache to view it again, it's looping.04:30
matthewi have a folder  named Linux programs, how would i type that in konsole? cd ~/Linux progams dosent work ><04:30
kubunterodoes kscreensaver even have a web page :-(04:30
Zero_Kelvinkubuntero: Looping in the Embeddable KPart I mean.04:30
morghanphoenixhda 1st hdd, hdb 2nd hdd, sda 3rd hdd, sdb 4th hdd.04:30
intelikeyctothej hmmm   and  grep /dev/sdc /boot/grub/device* | grep hd204:30
BluesKajit's a folder , cd only works on files04:30
ctothejIntelikey: " (hd2)   /dev/sdc "04:31
kubunteromatthew: A) tab is your friend04:31
kubunteromatthew: once you learn that you will see the answer for b) :)04:31
matthewty, love tab :D04:32
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Zero_Kelvinkubuntero: However, the tab is labelled - "GIF Image - 0x0 Pixels", just FYI.04:32
ctothejIntelikey: grub came up, so it installed fine, but when it tried to boot the OS, that is when the error came up.04:32
kubunteroMy tab is labeled some long number04:32
ctothejIntelikey: grub boots fine from its install on /dev/sda , which is how I got back in.04:33
kubunterook now it's named longnnumber.gif 238x14404:33
intelikeyctothej ok that's the problem maybe.   you need to add  "" (hd2,0)   /dev/sdc1 "  to that file and use (hd2,0) as the address in /boot/grub/menu.lst04:33
kubunteromatthew: XD04:33
intelikeyctothej and you should get a second openion on that.    i'm not a grub'y dude  :)04:33
Zero_Kelvinkubuntero: Most of those boards rename the files once they've been uploaded. Just don't go wandering if you're prudish - there's a lot of naughtiness amongst the fun and wierd stuff.04:34
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Linux_Galoreangrydill: kmail will delete any messages on the IMAP server inbox that doesnt match up04:34
intelikeygrub          GRUB           help ctothej  with grub.04:34
BluesKaj!GAG04:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about GAG - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:35
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Zero_Kelvinkubuntero: Just restarted Konqueror and am downloading two more gifs that I haven't seen before to see if they loop or just stop with the K throbber still rotating.04:36
Linux_Galoreangrydill: setup a "disconected imap" account04:36
ctothejIntelikey: thanks for the help thus far.04:36
BluesKajGraphical Boot manager : http://gag.sourceforge.net/04:36
kubunterook04:36
angrydillThanks, Galore, I'll try that.  I wasn't sure what the "Disconnected" Imap accounts were used for, so didn't try04:37
stdinbah, just use the GRand Unified Bootloader04:38
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D3javuYikes, kubuntu installer still at configuring apt 82% after 10 minutes :-/04:38
Linux_Galoreangrydill: yes, you can have both a a normal imap and disconnected and you can select it under the download button04:38
matthewis crossover officer pro same thing as the normal crossover that let you instal windows programs?04:38
intelikeyctothej also  make sure that the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst has the correct root=04:39
angrydillThx, Galore!04:39
farkrthis is how i want to partition (i think, after a week of researching). can anyone tell me if this looks good or if theres any problems before i do it: http://pastebin.ca/31272204:40
method|when i try to install a package thru adept i get this error: There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.04:40
Linux_Galoreangrydill: I only started using kmail a week ago, I usually use Tbird or Evolution04:40
method|actually im trying to remove a package04:40
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angrydillmatthew:  where you can't use a tab (scripts, etc.) you can either use:   cd "Linux Programs"   (with quotes) or  cd Linux04:41
angrydiller cd Linux\ Programs04:41
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intelikeyfarkr /var == 1.5g   too small.04:42
Linux_Galoremethod|: dpkg -i package_name04:42
farkrintelikey even for a single user desktop?04:42
angrydillI hate that the backslash is so near enter on this kbd :(04:42
stdinmethod|: try and remove it in konsole, you'll get a more descriptive error04:42
farkrangrydill i have the worst keyboard in the world it has a 'power off' button by the escape key and it wont disable04:42
Zero_Kelvinkubuntero: Downloaded a small gif. It stopped animating, throbber still spinning, but when I hit reload it just looped it. Tried it with another one and this one started to redownload. This would be less annoying if there was someconsistency to the behavior.04:42
kubunteroArgh This Gif is huge04:43
farkrif i accidently press it i go byeybye, have twice already :)04:43
ctothejThe command "df /boot" gives me a "mounted on" value of "/" and not "/boot". is this ok?04:43
kubunteroHow do you clear cache?04:43
stdinctothej: that's fine04:43
Ash-FoxArgh, I can't even downgrade to a older version of avahi, because it just isn't the repositories anymore04:43
method|error processing sun-java5-bin (--remove):04:43
method| Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should04:43
method| reinstall it before attempting a removal.04:43
ctothejstdin: nice. thanks.04:43
intelikeyfarkr yes.   var is where the package cache is as well as some very important system files.   also the mail.   as well as apache if you run apache04:43
method|how do I reinstall it if i cant remove it?04:43
stdinAsh-Fox: what version want it?04:43
farkrintelikey how big should i make it 3gb?04:44
Ash-Foxstdin, 0.6.13-2ubuntu2.304:44
farkrmaybe ill make tmp and var both 3gb to be safe04:44
intelikeyfarkr at least 2g but unless you have a large website in mind then 3g is more than plenty.04:44
stdinmethod|: to remove "sudo apt-get remove package" to install "sudo apt-get install package" to reinstall without uninstalling first "sudo apt-get --reinstall install packag"04:44
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stdinAsh-Fox: and the package name ?04:45
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farkrintelikey do you think it's good to make those partitions reiserfs ?04:45
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arkanabarSomebody mentioned earlier that O'Reilly's "Hacking Ubuntu" was available as a free download, but I can't find the darned thing.  Anyone got a link?04:45
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intelikeyfrank_ i wouldn't var  but some would argue that it's safe.   as to tmp  that would be fine.04:46
intelikeyfarkr ^04:46
Linux_Galorekubuntero: apt-get clean04:46
Zero_Kelvinkubuntero: Looking at both gifs in Konqueror as File Manager straight off of the hard drive and they loop fine.04:46
kubunteroLinux_Galore: Konqueror's web cache :)04:46
angrydillGalore: I use TBird and like it. I just hate having separate address books for KDE and Thunderbird.  :(04:47
Linux_Galorekubuntero: aah04:47
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stdinbrb04:47
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Ash-Foxstdin, well, assuming I got this right: avahi-daemon, libavahi-client3, libavahi-client3-dev, libavahi-common-data, libavahi-common3, libavahi-compat-libdnssd1, libavahi-core4, libavahi-glib104:48
Linux_Galoreangrydill: yeah, and Thunderbird hasnt got an intergrated contacts manager either aka kmail can be intergrated with kontacts (just run kontacts no kmail to start it all up)04:48
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Ash-FoxSince the recent libavahi upgrade has totally screwed up DNS resolving for me.04:48
Linux_Galores/no/not/04:48
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stdinAsh-Fox: do you know the *exact* package name?04:50
angrydillThanks, Linux_Galore.  Once I get that IMAP setup fixed, I'll be 100% Kmail/Kontact04:51
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Ash-Foxstdin, those are the exact package names04:51
Linux_Galorekubuntero: open Konqueror  Settings -> Configure Konqueror   go to Cache  then just click on "clear cache"04:51
stdin!find libavahi04:51
arkanabarSomebody mentioned earlier that O'Reilly's "Hacking Ubuntu" was available as a free download, but I can't find the darned thing.  Anyone got a link?04:51
ubotuFound: libavahi1.0-cil, libavahi-client-dev, libavahi-client3, libavahi-common-data, libavahi-common-dev (and 13 others)04:51
stdinAsh-Fox: as you can see, there are a few packages with libavahi in it04:51
angrydillMandrake's "urpmi" install command allows you to type only part of the pkg name.  Any way to do that with apt?04:52
Ash-Foxstdin, however I know which ones are installed on my system, and I gave them to you.04:52
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stdinangrydill: use tab completion: apt-get install pack<tab> goes to apt-get install package04:53
intelikeyangrydill apt-cache search 'string'       and it will list any and all matches.04:53
intelikeyangrydill or you can wild card the install command but you probably don't want that.     sudo apt-get install blah*04:53
fulat2khi folks, any way i can get intel HD audio is support in kubuntu 6.10?04:54
intelikeystdin doesn't that assume bash_completion enabled ?04:54
stdinAsh-Fox: when did you give them?04:54
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Ash-Foxstdin, huh?04:55
stdinintelikey: I dunno, it should be, I know I didn't have to enable it04:55
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Ash-Fox04:48 <Ash-Fox> stdin, well, assuming I got this right: avahi-daemon, libavahi-client3, libavahi-client3-dev, libavahi-common-data, libavahi-common3, libavahi-compat-libdnssd1, libavahi-core4, libavahi-glib104:55
stdinAsh-Fox: I wasn't here then, I had to restart konversation then :P04:55
intelikeystdin hmmm  not default enabled on dapper04:55
stdinintelikey: it was in edgy, and is in feisty04:56
Ash-FoxOkay :P04:56
intelikeyhmmmm04:56
stdinAsh-Fox: I've looked and you're right, the only version close to what you wanted is 0.6.13-2ubuntu2.4 (soo close tho)04:58
Zero_Kelvinkubuntero: Okay, for now I've turned on KGet and am downloading animated gifs with that after previewing them with the Gwenview KPart - a convoluted and silly thing I shouldn't need to do. :/04:59
Ash-Foxstdin, only problem is that, that particular version broke dns resolving in firefox, opera, wine :/04:59
kubunteroHa ha. They all seem to work fine for me04:59
Zero_Kelvinkubuntero: What version of Konqueror?04:59
Ash-Fox(dig, host, konqueror etc. still work fine)04:59
kubuntero3.5.505:00
Zero_Kelvinkubuntero: Ditto.05:00
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intelikeyhmmmm i wonder why this guy is trying to get into my box ????05:08
stdinintelikey: ssh bruteforce attack ?05:08
intelikeyssh not running.05:09
Zero_KelvinDoes anyone know if there are actual otions that can be set somewhere to control the playing or non-playing of animated gifs in Konqueror? I noticed a lot of wishlist stuff about animated gif control for older versions of Konqueror on Google when I was looking for an answer to solve my annoyance.05:09
intelikeyping me05:09
stdinhmm, ping attack, that's an old one05:10
intelikeyyeah.05:10
Rob-West<apfel> anal?05:10
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intelikeyok that's over.05:10
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intelikeyback later.05:11
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desijaysdear fellow ubuntu users, can someone please help me to install firefox on my new kubuntu installation. Im using amd64 and i can't install the available deb file05:12
Rob-Westsudo apt-get install firefox05:12
BluesKajsudo dpkg -i "the firefoxfilename.deb"05:13
desijaysdear mate, it says it needs to install an additional 37 mb of files. Is that okie?05:14
BluesKaj yup05:14
stdinisn't firefox on the amd64 version ???05:15
desijaysunfortunately no mate. it isn't. :(05:15
Dr_willishuh..05:15
desijaysi only have something called koncurer. it is very very slow05:15
Dr_willis!info firefox05:15
ubotufirefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.1+0dfsg-0ubuntu0.6.10 (edgy), package size 8992 kB, installed size 28580 kB05:15
Dr_willisi think ya may want to fire up the package manager and check again.05:16
stdinthen how come I see a load of amd64 debs here  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/05:16
Dr_willisinstead of doing this song and dance. :)05:16
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BluesKajmaybe not on the 64vers05:16
stdinso what's firefox-dbg_1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.3-0ubuntu3_amd64.deb  ??05:17
Dr_willis firefox_2.0+0dfsg-0ubuntu3_amd64.deb05:17
BluesKajit seems i had to install it seperately when i tried the 64 bit dapper05:17
desijaysi don't why, but when i search for it, i never seem to get what i want. thanks stdin mate05:17
Dr_willisapt-get update and search again05:17
stdinthis seems to be the most recent version http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/firefox-dbg_2.0.0.1+0dfsg-0ubuntu0.6.10_amd64.deb05:18
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desijaysdo you think it would be better if i install using the deb file or just apt-get?05:19
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Dr_willisdesijays,  always apt-get05:19
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desijaysokie willis mate. i think its downloading now.. shows a list of files and lots of %. i hope that is normal.05:20
morticianyone wanna educate me on how to install kubuntu on a raid 0?05:20
desijaysThanks you all very much05:20
LameBMX!raid05:20
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO05:20
LameBMX!fakeraid05:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fakeraid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:20
LameBMX!softwareraid05:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about softwareraid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:21
AndyBeI did it here, but it doesent make sence on this old machine... lol -.05:21
BluesKajsacktime05:21
BluesKajnite all05:21
AndyBeme too, BluesKaj05:21
Linux_Galoremortici: thats a "book question"05:21
stdinLameBMX: the raid howto should at least link to the page you want05:21
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AndyBesearch for debian.05:22
AndyBeI found it there.05:22
Zero_KelvinOutta here, cya's later.05:22
Linux_Galore!raid05:22
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO05:22
AndyBeI used the server05:22
LameBMXhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/fakeraidedgy .... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/fakeraidhowto05:22
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AndyBebut i think it is bin able05:22
SpAwN!filesharing05:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about filesharing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:22
Linux_Galore!p2p05:23
ubotuConventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.05:23
SpAwN!fileshare05:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fileshare - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:23
AndyBeif you make not a partition make a raid on each hardisk.05:23
AndyBereboot better05:23
LameBMXstdin ... if someone gave me bot axx i would link it up lol05:23
Linux_GaloreLinux works better though with raid5/10   0/1  throttles the kernel too much05:23
AndyBeon this you can make one partionen, but don't forget the swapfile! - not in soft raid !!!05:23
SpAwNwhat do i need to share files from my kubuntu box to my other linux box...i want to share my home folder on my kubuntu box and mount it on my other linuxu box(mandriva)05:24
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LameBMXeh .. im stuck on a fakeraid 0 lol ... still a ton faster than a single device05:24
AndyBenfs you need !05:24
Linux_GaloreSpAwN: nothing really05:24
lincolnhey whats up, i'm getting an error using apt-get .. it keeps saying that all of the servers have an IP address of 1.0.0.005:24
AndyBeor simple make an ftp.05:24
AndyBe..stupid idea.05:24
stdin!samba | SpAwN05:24
ubotuSpAwN: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT05:24
desijaysa silly question....time waster... how come downloads are much faster in kubuntu than xp? i never got 40 k downlods in xp. but in kubuntu it stays at 38 to 40..05:24
stdinused for file sharing over LAN ^^^05:24
AndyBesamba, hm from linux to linux...05:24
SpAwNwhen i goto system settings and sharing its all grayed out(even after i goto adminsrator mode)05:25
AndyBeno05:25
lincolnhey whats up, i'm getting an error using apt-get .. it keeps saying that all of the servers have an IP address of 1.0.0.005:25
lincolnshit sorry05:25
SpAwNstdin, is samba better then nfs?05:25
Dr_willisdesijays,  download speeds can vary vastly depending on servers and other things... windows also seems to lie about the #'s at times.05:25
stdinunless you want yo get in to the goriness of setting up nfs05:25
AndyBeno, normal not.05:25
LameBMXSpAwN, you can also use ssh ...05:25
Linux_GaloreSpAwN: you can setup an on the fly share right click on the directory you want to share -> properties    click on Share then Setup Share05:25
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AndyBeonly if your mixed with Window$ Boxes.05:26
Linux_GaloreSpAwN: sorry click on the Sharing Tab05:26
SpAwNLinux_Galore, when i do that its all grayed out...i cant do anything05:26
stdinsshfs is good to05:26
stdin!sshfs05:26
AndyBenfs is not hard to learn. ... google it with debian nfs installation.05:26
ubotusshfs: filesystem client based on SSH File Transfer Protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6-1 (edgy), package size 29 kB, installed size 116 kB05:26
AndyBessh, is shell like not a mount.05:26
morticidamn it i thought it would be easy to install on my raid0 :(05:26
AndyBemortici, it is eay.05:27
SpAwNwell what do uthink the easiest/more reliable way to go is.05:27
stdinAndyBe: did you not just read what the bot said?05:27
SpAwNlike a good medium05:27
desijaysall mates who helped. thank u. firefox up and running :)05:27
Linux_GaloreSpAwN: other method is to install open-ssh-server and the you can access the machine from within konqueror via  fish://192.168.etc05:27
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stdindesijays: happy browsing :P05:27
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morticiAndyBe: right... i have a windows partition i wish to be undamaged :/05:27
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AndyBehands up mortici.05:28
SpAwNi just want a folder in like /mnt ie /mnt/samba or we/05:28
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Linux_GaloreSpAwN: the ssh-server method is what I use and I put links on the remote machine05:28
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Linux_GaloreSpAwN: sorry "links on the desktop"05:28
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AndyBeSpAwN:  read about nfs, its not to hard.05:28
stdin!nfs05:29
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.05:29
Dr_willisSpAwN,  thats doable.. theres  several ways to do it.. and what is best.. depends on your exact setup05:29
morticiAndyBe: i put my hands up05:29
Dr_willisSpAwN,  for a Linux to linux machine. NFS is proberly fastest. for long term shares.05:29
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SpAwNDr_willis, ahh yea i kinda have heard that and leaning toward nfs05:29
AndyBemortici: that's why I got a seperate computer to play with. damm yesterday I loose my imap server here because of that.05:29
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Dr_willisSpAwN,  but for some quick transfering of files.. ssh and the konqueror use of fish:// is handy05:30
SpAwNahh k thanks guys :-)05:31
morticibah ill just buy a secondary HDD and use that05:31
morticimy laptop runs kubuntu just fine05:31
AndyBe* got a little sleep *05:31
stdinI like sshfs, because I already have ssh setup, and I'm lazy :P05:31
Dr_willis'fuse' is a often overlooked and darn handy tool.05:31
Dr_willis:)05:31
Linux_Galorestdin: I found the built in share thing in KDE by accident, I didnt even know it was there05:31
stdinshame !fuse only talks about the ntfs fuse part05:32
Dr_willisstdin,  yea  - they need to fix up  a better wiki/factoid05:32
MinatakuAw, man...05:32
Linux_GaloreI setup on the fly shared with the built in share server now and again05:32
stdinLinux_Galore: you need to explore more :P05:32
MinatakuAIX for PS/2 1.3.0 won't work on my IBM PS/2 note N51 slc :(05:33
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Linux_Galorestdin: yeah I usually use ssh, I just wanted to share a Directory on the fly one day without nfs or ssh and I found the Sharing thing in KDE05:33
MinatakuIt runs and installs but a couple minutes after booting it bitches about a hard error on / and panics :(05:34
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stdinLinux_Galore: sharing on the fly with ssh is easy, no setup required, you just mount to where you want it, from the remote sever05:34
stdins/server/client/05:34
Linux_Galorestdin: no, kde can setup a "share server" without installing "anything"05:34
stdinyou need to install samba server, not installed by default on *buntu05:35
Linux_Galorestdin: even shows an applet in your taskbar of the share server and when its being accessed05:35
Linux_Galorestdin: I dont have samba installed05:35
stdinahh, that one :P05:35
stdinI get ya now :P05:35
Dr_williswhat does it share it with then..05:36
Linux_Galorestdin: yeah the lazy mans share server05:36
stdinI think it used http05:36
Linux_Galoreyeah its http05:36
Linux_Galorestdin: you can even define the port and speed of the share05:36
stdinapplet "Public File Server"05:36
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Linux_Galorestdin: if you behind a firewall router its not so public05:37
Linux_Galoreyour*05:37
stdinmy pc IS the router in my LAN :P05:37
morticilol i got my new soldering iron and now i wanna solder stuff05:38
Dr_willisbrand the dog.05:38
morticilol05:38
Linux_Galoremortici: always run around signing plastic things with "this is mine" with it05:39
stdinnah, solder it to the cat, hours of fun :)05:39
morticihaha05:39
morticicrazy geeks :P05:39
morticii was gonna entertain my self by installing kubuntu on my desktop but it seems it will be more of a challange than i wanna do a t 11pm :P05:40
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stdinnah, it's as easy as 3.1415926505:40
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kgarrodI have a problem with Quanta+ going into a loop. When I open it up, it eads my project files and then sits there chewing cpu05:42
kgarrodeads -> reads05:42
morticithere should be an easier way to install linux on raid arrays :/05:43
Dr_willisYou dont want to know the song and dance ive seen to isntall windows on raid arrays05:44
morticii wanna see it05:45
morticiand i had no issues installing windows on a raid0 here :/05:45
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bdragonmsldoes anyone know how to edit settings in the grub on kubuntu?05:46
stdinbdragonmsl: kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst05:47
ironfroggyany idea why any kde app or firefox can print, but OOo can not?05:47
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aibis anyone using KDE 4 in Edgy?05:47
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burepeIs "vram" ram for the video card?05:49
stdinaib: kde4 isn't out yet05:49
aibstdin, i'm aware of that http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.1.php05:49
stdinburepe: yes, but only if your video card doesn't have it's own ram, like intel chips05:50
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burepewhat about savage s3 k133 cards?05:51
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FFForeverHi05:53
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willhi all, im running edgy, and im trying to upgrade my amarok to amarok144 so it has support for my zen creative mp3 player, I found a place that has a package, but all it says is "deb source ..." what do I do with that information?05:53
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FFForeveri have used ffmpeg and k3b to burn/make a vcd but my dvd player says its not a vcd, how can i make a working vcd?05:53
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glimmungholy crap whats going on?05:54
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stdin_quite a split there :P05:54
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MinatakuBig boom05:54
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glimmunghi all, im running edgy, and im trying to upgrade my amarok to amarok144 so it has support for my zen creative mp3 player, I found a place that has a package, but all it says is "deb source ..." what do I do with that information?05:54
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Jucato!amarok05:55
ubotuAmarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.4 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok05:55
Linux_Galoreglimmung: look on the kubuntu.org home page it has a repo for the latest version of amarok there05:55
burepestdin: the page for the settings about my couputer says vram 16mb. Does that mean that I have to set the amount of deticated video memory?05:55
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FFForeverok ima repost my question due to a 200 user diffrence lol05:55
FFForeveri have used ffmpeg and k3b to burn/make a vcd but my dvd player says its not a vcd, how can i make a working vcd?05:55
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Linux_Galoreglimmung: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.4.php05:56
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Linux_Galoreglimmung: tells you everything you need to know05:56
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glimmungno it doesnt, I dont know what to do with the apt source info05:57
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Linux_GaloreFFForever: hmm latest version of k3b has a vcd ripper tool built05:58
Tm_T!repository05:58
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:58
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Tm_THmm, not sure does that help at all.05:59
Linux_GaloreFFForever: need k3b Ver 1.005:59
JucatoTm_T: what you looking for?05:59
Tm_T06:57 < glimmung> no it doesnt, I dont know what to do with the apt source info05:59
Tm_TBah, should wake up first. ->05:59
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Jucatoglimmung: what do you mean? did you follow the instructions for adding Amarok 1.4.4 in the kubuntu.org page?06:00
Linux_GaloreJucato: there is a notice on the kubuntu.org page about it06:01
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JucatoLinux_Galore: notice that?06:01
Jucatois there a new notice?06:01
Linux_Galoreglimmung: ok its easy06:01
Linux_Galoreglimmung: open adept from your menu06:02
HawkwindYou will get a message "OK" (you may also get a warning about no ultimately trusted keys found).06:02
HawkwindI think he's referring to that message maybe06:02
HawkwindWhich can certainly be ignored06:02
Linux_Galoreglimmung: now click on View -> Manage Repositories06:02
JucatoHi Hawkwind!!!!!!!!!!!06:02
HawkwindHey Jucato!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!06:02
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HawkwindHobbsee: !!!!!!!!!!!06:03
Linux_Galoreglimmung: now add this line and click on apply  -> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-144 edgy main06:03
Linux_Galoreglimmung: now go back to the main window in adept and click on update06:03
Linux_Galoreglimmung: now it should want to update amarok06:03
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HawkwindJoy06:04
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stdinwoooh !06:04
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Linux_Galoreshould be a thing in konversation to ignore netsplits06:04
JucatoLinux_Galore: ignore join/parts06:05
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HawkwindLinux_Galore: There is, you could type /quit Ignoring Netsplits06:05
JucatoLinux_Galore: Hide Join/Part/Nick Events06:05
Linux_GaloreJucato: I want that one of join/leave thing, I dont want to see netsplits06:05
LeeJunFanLinux_Galore: I liked my old IRC client on Amiga, it used to show you what net's split off when there was a split, so you'd know what one to join if you wanted to takeover a channel :)06:05
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Linux_Galores/that/the/06:06
JucatoLinux_Galore: well, you won't notice a netsplit if you don't see the massive join/part06:06
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Linux_GaloreJucato: yeah but there should be a leave/enter filter for netsplits ie more than 10 in 3 seconds and its a netsplit06:07
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JucatoLinux_Galore: any other FOSS IRC client that does that?06:07
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dopesup buddies06:08
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Linux_GaloreJucato: well I used to have a filter plugin for gaim that allowed me to filter set events on Yahoo06:08
akrus`Mobilehello everyone~06:08
akrus`Mobilehow to enable mouse control from keyboard in KDE?06:08
Linux_GaloreJucato: ie join/leave floods could be ignored06:08
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JucatoLinux_Galore: gaim has that plugin? maybe you could request the Konvi devs to hack it?06:09
dopeso what's the best way to ssh from a linux comp to a windows comp06:09
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Linux_GaloreJucato: it only works for yahoo, its called ignorance06:09
Jucatoakrus`Mobile: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Mouse -> Mouse Navigation06:09
JucatoLinux_Galore: Yahoo Chat on GAIM?06:09
akrus`MobileI cannot move to 'Keyboard & Mouse' without mouse :)06:09
dopeso what's the best way to ssh from a linux comp to a windows comp06:09
Linux_GaloreJucato: yep06:09
dopeor remote access a windows comp from linux06:10
Hobbseehey Hawkwind06:10
Jucatoakrus`Mobile: Alt+F2, "kcontrol", then use cursor keys and Tab keys to navigate. it's under Peripherals -> Mouse06:10
HawkwindHobbsee: Afternoon/evening to ya, how's things06:10
Linux_Galoredope: windows machine must be running an ssh server for that to work06:10
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JucatoLinux_Galore: maybe it's possible becaause of the nature of Yahoo Chat, which isn't IRC06:10
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akrus`MobileSHIFT+NUMLOCK :)06:10
Linux_GaloreJucato: not really, Yahoo is just a wrapper protocol with plain text06:11
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Jucatokool, didn't know that :)06:11
HobbseeHawkwind: good :06:11
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dopeor remote access a windows comp from linux06:11
Jucatoif you say so06:11
Linux_GaloreJucato: the info is freely available06:11
Dr_willisdope,  to access files on a windows box. use the FISH:// stuff or some other samba method/tool/mount06:12
dopeFISH!?@$#06:12
Linux_GaloreJucato: I used to use an app called gyach on yahoo it has a debug mode that shows the packets in the terminal between you and yahoo06:12
Dr_willisYes.. fish://06:12
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Dr_williskonqueror can browse samba/smb shares with the fish:// kioslave06:13
Linux_GaloreJucato: its actually not that big a deal06:13
Dr_willisor am i backwards.. fish is for ssh... smb:// is samba06:13
dopeso how do i connect to a windows whatever with the fish thing06:13
dopei have to make a samba share?06:13
dopeOH GOD I'M LOST06:13
JucatoLinux_Galore: like I said, you can probably request it from the #konversation guys06:13
Dr_williswindows must have a SHARE shared...... of course06:13
Linux_GaloreJucato: what is complex about yahoo is all the weird cookie crap that yahoo uses06:13
dopea special samba share or just share a folder06:13
Dr_willisthen you can use the various samba/smb browser tools to access the wndows share.06:13
Dr_willisdope,  windows "shareing" folders is the equilivent of samba shares on a linux box.06:14
dopeoh really06:14
dopeso what would the url be to access it?06:14
Dr_williswindows dont use 'samba' thats the name of the LInux thing that does the same thing06:14
Dr_willissmb://windowsboxname or similer.06:14
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Dr_willisopen up konueror to the remote places.. it has a icon for the shares06:15
Dr_willisremote:/06:15
dopeOMG I FOUND IT06:15
dopeOMGOMGOMG06:15
Dr_willisamazing what you can find when you look...06:15
Dr_willis:)06:15
dopecan i say i love you?06:15
Dr_willisdont make me come over there....06:16
Dr_willis:)06:16
Jucatohahah06:16
dopei luv u06:16
dopeand u and u and u06:16
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Dr_willisNOW to access files on a linux box from a windows machine.. winscp is a rather easy to do it..06:17
dopeyea i got something for that06:17
dopei think it's winscp06:17
Dr_willisor ya can set up samba for the linux box.. and the windows machine will see it as if it was a windows machine with some shares...06:17
dopeis that a visual tool?06:17
dopeit looks like krusader?06:17
Dr_willisit can look like explorer, or like a 2 pane file manager06:17
arkanabarIs there an equivalent to "Kubuntu for Dummies" online somewhere?06:17
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Jucatoarkanabar: it's included with every Kubuntu installation: K Menu -> Help -> Kubuntu Desktop Guide :)06:18
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CVirus* Rob-West is looking for people to talk to PM me06:20
CVirusWTF ?06:20
CVirusA dating channel that is ?!06:20
intelikeyhmmmm it takes gnome apps for ever and a day (figuratively) to start.   could that be because i made   /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfd-2 a symlink to /bin/true ?06:20
Dr_willisI hear that #debian has a lot of hot chicks...06:20
Dr_willis:)06:20
intelikeyDr_willis lol06:20
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CVirusRob-West: #Kubuntu-OffTopic or #Ubuntu-OffTopic06:21
Linux_GaloreDr_willis: with big bananas in their pants06:21
CVirusRob-West: or move to another server even ... like undernet or dalnet06:21
arkanabarArgh!!  I was sure I ran passwd for user root successfully!  But the password I set didn't work......06:21
intelikeyarkanabar didn't work where ?06:22
arkanabarwith add programs.06:22
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Jucatokdesu in Kubuntu is set to use sudo, it will always be sudo06:23
intelikeythat's because it's not asking for root's passwd.06:23
Jucatoafaik06:23
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intelikeyarkanabar try your password06:23
Dr_willisunless of course ya set roots password, to the same as that first users password. :)06:23
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Jucatobut it still uses sudo :P06:24
intelikeyit still is not asking for root's password.  the fact that they would be the same is irrelivent06:24
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Dr_willisthen it dosent matter...06:24
intelikeyeven if you spell it correctly06:24
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Dr_willisdarn!  i typed it wrong06:25
intelikeypassword==password06:25
intelikeyname==name06:25
intelikeyhehhe don't that.06:25
Jucatosetting a passwd for root user only applies in the terminal06:25
Jucatokdesu will still use sudo no matter what...06:25
arkanabarI was at command line when I did it06:25
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Jucato(except by making some config changes or re-compiling kdesu)06:26
intelikeyJucato or if you enable root login in kdm06:26
Jucatointelikey: but then... why would you need kdesu? :P06:26
intelikeyyou wouldn't06:26
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intelikeybut you couldn't tell kde that.06:26
Dr_willis!info sux06:26
ubotusux: wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-3.2 (edgy), package size 8 kB, installed size 64 kB06:26
Dr_willisi just use Sux out of old habbit.06:27
jordo23Hey Jucato06:27
Jucatohi jordo2306:27
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JucatoI use kdesu, no root, out of habit :)06:27
arkanabarnvm, have to sleep.06:27
Dr_willisim always sshing into other box's and running stuff.. been having some issues if i dont use sux :)06:27
intelikeyi'm nosuid  so no su,sux,sudo,kdesu  here mate06:27
Jucatois that an invitation to crackers?06:28
intelikeyit's been tried06:28
intelikeybut no success yet.06:28
intelikeynot really an invite tho06:29
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dane...hello?06:29
intelikeyi ran ssh for a week and advertized my ip and a guest account with passwd=x   so they could really test it...  three people took me up on it.06:30
intelikeysshd06:30
Jucatohi06:30
danenice06:30
danegood stuff06:30
daneare you happy?06:30
Jucato??06:30
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intelikeyor at least 3 was all i could track through the logs    i confess that i'm not good at tracking things like that.06:31
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kaistdin: on my ipod when I mount it say invalid file format?06:32
placoanyone knows how i can disable my wifi radio and get rid of this anyoing flickering light on my laptop?06:32
dopeok how would i stream a music file off a linux box to a windows box?06:32
kaithe only spots I have left are sdb06:32
kaiwhats goin on with that06:32
intelikeyplaco mmmm could remove the module from the kernel ?06:33
stdinkai: it should be sd*2 where * can be any letter06:33
intelikeyblack list it06:33
placothat difficult?06:33
kaibut its telling me invalid filesystem06:33
dopeok how would i stream a music file off a linux box to a windows box?06:33
intelikeyplaco probably not.06:34
kaistdin:06:34
kaimount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb,06:34
kai       missing codepage or other error06:34
kai       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try06:34
kai       dmesg | tail  or so06:34
placobecause i would like to use it later on, but not now06:34
kaiwhy 2?06:34
kaiwhy does it have to sd*2?06:35
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placointelikey how do i remove this module then?06:35
Ash-FoxAnyone happen to know any hardware vendors like http://system76.com that sell high end laptops - linux supported in Europe?06:35
stdinkai: because on the ipod the 1st partition is the ipod "boot" partition, where the firmware is06:35
kaiwow, your realy know wasup06:36
kaiI didn't know that,, I thought it was the thing06:36
intelikeyplaco lsmod | less       and see what the module name is, compare with lshw | less    if needed  and add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist   you can remove it at anytime...06:37
kaiIn amark is there an updat command I can update playlist and thing?06:37
intelikeyplaco you can test with  modprobe -r <modulename>    to see if that will produce the desired results.06:37
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intelikeysudo that ^06:38
gatillocedega works with intel 915??06:38
stdinthere is a "transfir cue" in the media devices tab i think kai06:38
dopeok how would i stream a music file off a linux box to a windows box?06:39
Ash-Foxdope, you could use shoutcast, just like on windows.06:39
dope:O06:40
kaiI found that but when I make a playlist it seems messed up lik it doesn't do anything and its empty06:40
intelikeyplaco  an alternate way would be to make a script that will remove the module if you click it.   or insert it if it has been removed...     that's what i'd do.    something like this example#  #!/bin/sh \n\n lsmod | grep nodname && kdesu modprobe -r nodname || kdesu modprobe modname06:41
intelikeyplaco where \n is  a new line and modname is the actual module name    make it executable and put it on the desktop or in your home and make a link to it in the menu or task bar06:42
stdinintelikey: why kdesu not sudo ?06:42
Jucato!yakuake > jordo2306:42
stdinintelikey: or why not, sudo script06:42
intelikeystdin so he can just click it and it will open a window for the passwd.06:43
intelikeystdin more gui friendly06:43
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intelikeyi know it's hard to believe as dumb as i am and as much as i typo and can't spell anything  but i have writen several scripts  both for the gui and for the cli06:44
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intelikeyonly computer language i know is  "bash scripting"06:45
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stdinintelikey: heh, me to :)06:45
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Linux_Galoreintelikey: should be a fan of kommander then06:46
stdinintelikey: I used kdialog in a bash script to ask me a login if I wanted to run beryl: now, later, or not at all06:47
intelikeyLinux_Galore mc06:47
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intelikeyLinux_Galore oh no  xmessage for that.06:48
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stdinI remember kqemu (a GUI not the module) was written in kommander06:50
stdinor it may have been kemu?06:50
dopeok i have a nfts partition on a linux machine that i want to access from a windows box, how do i do this06:51
dopeit's just mp3s06:51
intelikey!samba06:51
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT06:51
intelikeyand dope if you need read/write access you probably want !ntfs   also06:52
intelikey!ntfs06:52
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse06:52
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stdinintelikey: you mean !ntfs-3g there ? "if you need read/write access"06:55
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intelikeyi meant the infonode that i typed that points you at that infonode and !fuse infonode and the wiki page.06:56
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intelikeyyou/him/06:56
matthew0507hi i need to know how to change the OS order because im dual booting xp and kubuntu, it listed kubuntu as default to top but i want xp instead.06:58
matthew0507i need to know the gnub commands to do that06:59
matthew0507grub*06:59
intelikeymatthew0507 edit /boot/grub/menu.lst06:59
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matthew0507thankyou :)06:59
stdinmatthew0507: change "default (whatever)" to the correct number (starting at 0)06:59
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intelikeymatthew0507  kdesu kedit /boot/grub/menu.lst   <<< actual command07:00
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laloneed help07:00
matthew0507roger07:00
intelikeykedit or kwrite or kate or some-editor-you-like07:01
stdinlalo: with ?07:01
intelikey07:01
ShuTlol07:01
intelikey?07:01
intelikeyif i could get those two hooks togather i'd crush "<ShuT> lol"   with it.07:02
intelikey:)07:02
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matthew0507any of you familiar with windows app such as speedfan and eazytune to change and control cpu fan speed? is there something like that to use on kubuntu?07:03
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intelikeypowermanagement-interface - platform neutral powermanagement interface07:05
intelikeypowermgmt-base - Common utils and configs for power management07:05
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intelikeymight look into either or both of those ^07:05
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intelikeyi've never used them07:05
matthew0507thanks again07:05
_Shade_hi there07:06
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_Shade_when can i expect herd2 to be released?07:07
intelikeymatthew0507 also adept has a search feature  and the cli way to scan packages is     apt-cache search <string>    if you see something you want to know more about    apt-cache show <packagename>07:07
intelikey_Shade_ you running feisty ?07:08
stdin!feisty07:09
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+107:09
_Shade_intelikey: no i am not07:09
intelikeyah.  ok.07:09
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Jucato_Shade_: maybe those in #ubuntu+1 would know when07:09
intelikey_Shade_ yeah that ^   maybe.07:09
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stdinor just use the relesae scedual link there :)07:09
stdin*schedual07:10
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jugheadI'm an ubuntu user that installed KDE, and the fonts in KDE look very very bad.  Is there something I can do to fix this?07:10
intelikeystdin does that have herd schedualing ?07:10
_Shade_stdin: well it's planned today according to the schedule... just cant wait :)07:11
intelikeyjughead change them.    kcontrol07:11
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stdinintelikey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule yep, and appepently heed 2 is out today (January 11th)07:11
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vulcaniuswow... i keep thinking it's the 8th07:11
jugheadI'll try that intelikey.  I don't want to change the style, just the rendering of them.. I can do that there?07:11
intelikeyjughead  hit  alt+f2  and type in   kcontrol07:12
stdinjughead: should be in System Settings -> Apperance -> Fonts07:12
jugheadI'm in Gnome right now does that matter?07:12
intelikeyevery thing you want to adjust is in there07:12
intelikeyand if it's not, then right click it.07:12
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vulcaniuszomg, Mr Kim is locked out of the helm07:13
jugheadlet me change over to KDE brb thanks07:13
intelikeyjughead ahhh probably.07:13
vulcaniusand the starship voyager is adjusting it's course07:13
jordo23Where in KDE do you tell it not to display all windows on virtual desktops?07:13
vulcaniusZOMGWTFBBQWNED07:13
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=== intelikey seems to be lagging again.
intelikeyjordo23 in kcontrol or right click the desktop and configure it that way07:14
_Shade_hey guys i need to install flashplugin in edgy. Last time i needed that a nice konqueror notification appeared which guided me through the process smoothly but now it's gone...07:14
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vulcaniusanyone ever notice the Army commercials always feature a day talking to his son about how he never used to do something before?07:14
stdinjordo23: or right ckick on the pannel, choose "Confgiure Pannel", go to Taskbar, and deselect "Show windows from all desktops"07:15
vulcaniusthey make it sound like every person in the army is a lifetime fuckup who somehow becomes the perfect person because of the army07:15
intelikeywould the son of a day be a morning ?07:15
vulcaniusheh, dad*07:15
intelikey:)07:15
Jucato!offtopic07:15
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!07:16
stdin_Shade_: follow the guide here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash07:16
vulcaniuslol07:16
jordo23stdin: That's what I thought.....but the option is gone....like it disappeared!07:16
jordo23stdin: It's not there.....am I crazy??07:16
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jordo23stdin: seriously....I know where it should be but it's not there...07:16
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Jucatojordo23: maybe the guys in #ubuntu-xgl and #beryl would know07:17
stdinjordo23: I can see it, so you must be crazy07:17
jordo23stdin: right click on kicker, panel menu, configure panel, then under taskbar tab right?07:17
intelikeyvulcanius not so far from the truth though in the simple sense that they have not done much of anything.  being 18 years old   and they do a lot of growing up really fast there    not that they were 'loosers' before, just kids.07:17
stdinjordo23: yep, it's the 1st check box i see there07:18
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jordo23It's there now.....but it is deselected....07:18
stdinjordo23: then you shouldn't see all the windows on all desktops on it07:19
jordo23stdin: wierd, I do....but I think it's a Beryl conflict...07:19
stdinjordo23: ahh, beryl07:19
stdinjordo23: yeah, it don't work in beryl :P07:19
jordo23stdin: When I set for four different desktops and Beryl is running, it makes 4x4 or 16...07:19
jordo23stdin: Do you know this for a fact that it doesn't work in Beryl.....07:20
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stdinjordo23: yeah, it isn't a feature in beryl, and the bug about it making 16 desktops when you switch back to kwin, I've already reported07:21
stdinjordo23: also, If you have a window minimised, then switch back to kwin, it will disapear :P07:21
stdinjordo23: not even alt-tab will see it07:21
jordo23stdin: Ok....thanks....then I am not crazy...I was just speaking with a Beryl dev trying to find that out but he had to go abruptly...07:22
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jordo23stdin: Yeah....I find that Adept's Notifier is having problems on my system too...07:22
stdinberyl isn't classed as stable yet, so there are bound to be some issues07:23
stdinI compile it from cvs daily :)07:23
intelikey!beryl07:23
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl07:23
stdinI have version beryl-core 0.1.5-svn07:23
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stdinintelikey: because we want da bling :)07:24
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intelikey:)07:25
stdinthere's also a how https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingBeryl07:25
stdin*to07:25
jordo23stdin: I like Beryl, but not having virtual desktops kind of defeats part of it's main use...07:25
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intelikeystdin yeah    that makes it look like it's officially supported07:26
jordo23stdin: I don't really see the point then with the cube...07:26
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jordo23stdin: Under KDE at least..07:26
stdinjordo23: you'll still have 4 desktops (as the cube), but you'll just see all the windows open in the taskbar07:26
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stdinintelikey: the clue is the external repos :P07:26
jordo23stdin: Yeah....I know, but then it really isn't like 4 independent desktops, more like one desktop with four sections...07:27
intelikeybut clues are not noticed by nubys07:27
stdinintelikey: true dat07:27
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stdinjordo23: if you want the bling, you have to put up with it for now, also you can post a bug report and see what responce you get, or ask in #beryl07:28
jugheadMy fonts look a lot better now thanks #kubuntu07:28
jordo23stdin: When I have Konversation open on one face....switch to another, and maximize amarok, it doesn't open for me, but it spins me back to Konversation and opens amarok over it.....am I doing something wrong?07:28
stdinjordo23: it will open on the desktop you started the app on07:29
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stdinjordo23: if you started amarok from the kmenu from the 2nd viwepoint, it would open in that one, not the 1st07:29
jordo23stdin: is that considered a bug by Beryl?07:29
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jordo23theoritically you should be able to open a minimized window without spinning back right...07:30
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intelikeywell i can say for sure now  that it will keep gnome apps from opening a window if you do;07:30
intelikeytty23 [root@~]  rm /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfd-207:30
intelikeytty23 [root@~]  ln -s /bin/true /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfd-207:30
stdinjordo23: no, because you can have, say firefox open on one view, and konversation open in another and be looking at it, then click the firefox taskbar entry and it'll spin you back to the firefox view07:31
_Shade_will be feisty available through shipit again, or just dapper?07:31
stdin_Shade_: don't know, probably still dapper, seeing as it's LTS, but you should ask in #ubuntu+107:32
intelikeythat's a good ole question _Shade_07:32
intelikey!shipit07:32
ubotushipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will not send Edgy (6.10) CDs, but only Dapper (6.06) CDs, as Dapper is a !LTS release.07:32
_Shade_ah thanx... i will ask them then07:32
jordo23stdin: I see.....so I should be conscious on which face I open the programs on..07:33
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stdinjordo23: yes, you can drag the windows to another face of the cube too, or right click the titlt bat and transfir it like you would when you send it to another desktop07:34
jordo23stdin: Yeah....I get it now....if only the virtual desktops worked, then it would be sweet...07:34
stdinjordo23: it's only at version 0.1.x give it time :P07:34
jordo23stdin: If the taskbar was independent and it didn't multiply the number of available desktops/07:35
jordo23stdin: How old is the project?07:35
intelikeythree weeks07:35
intelikeyor a little more.07:35
jordo23Thats it???!!07:35
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jugheadI'm new to KDE and Konqueror, is there a way I can change the default view to detailed list?07:36
intelikeyhe always does it BIG TIME.07:36
stdinjordo23: it's not verry old, the IRC channel was only created 16 weeks 4 days (18h 13m 15s) ago07:36
intelikeyjughead yes set it to that and save the profile07:36
jugheadthanks intelikey07:37
jugheadthat was pretty easy07:37
jugheadare most people in here KDE users?07:38
intelikeyjughead yes07:38
jordo23Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE07:38
intelikeyi'm not.07:38
stdinwell yeah, most are07:38
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jordo23intelikey: You use Gnome (hisssssss......)07:38
intelikeyjughead i'm a cli kind of guy07:38
jugheadeven better07:38
intelikeyjordo2307:38
jordo23?07:38
stdin07:39
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intelikeynick completion error07:39
jugheadwell, I use fluxbox when I run on batteries becuase I have this idea that the battery will last longer07:39
jordo23intelikey: You use gnome?07:39
stdinjughead: you're proberbly right07:39
jugheadbut plugged in... it's been Gnome and probably more KDE now too07:39
intelikeyjordo23 i'm a cli kind of guy07:40
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jugheadI figure the extra stuff KDE does behind the scenes has to use CPU cycles, and power07:40
jordo23intelikey: Oh...didn't see it07:40
jugheadCLI would be the ultimate, but I am not that good07:40
stdinjughead: KDE dosen't use any mroe recources thant Gnome07:40
stdin*more07:40
jugheadyeah07:40
stdinand07:40
stdinKDE is BETTER :)07:41
jugheadI figured that much.  I don't use either if I'm not plugged in.07:41
=== jordo23 likes KDE apps better than Gnome apps
jordo23except the Gimp..07:41
=== stdin thinks people who use Kde are Kool :)
intelikeyi have one box  a p1mmx 100mhz with 64m ram and i run kde on it with no swap.... so don't get the idea that kde has to have a bazillion terabites of ram07:41
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matthew_intelikey, I didn't think that was possible...07:42
jugheadthat's insane intelikey07:43
intelikeyhmmm i actually have xorg ideling at the moment and the total ram usage is  26m07:43
StingRayGood Morning, stdin!07:43
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intelikeyblackbox on the xserver07:43
stdinmorning StingRay07:43
matthew_wow...I generally have ~300-400 Megs of RAM used whilst idling07:43
intelikeyheh and that's with the broke gnome app running without a window.07:44
jordo23matthew_: I have 600 when idle07:44
stdinbut how much is cache?07:44
jugheadI do like konqueror better than nautilus07:44
D3javuhello. my sound is pnp, i try lspnp to find info about it but lspnp is not working. any idea?07:45
intelikeymatthew_ jordo23 i doubt that you are looking at actual usage.   but allocated ram.  there is a differance you know.07:45
jugheadI do need to install PyQt for liquid weather though, let me google that up07:45
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intelikeyif you have 2g kde will allocate 1+g of it   if you have 64m kde will allocate 60m of it.07:46
matthew_intelikey, meh, you're probably right...07:46
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jordo23Is there a stable solution to get flash on 64 bit kubuntu and konq?07:46
stdinD3javu: try lshw07:46
intelikeyi run mandrake 9.0 on a 486 lappy with only 16m of ram.   no X there tho.07:47
stdin!lshw | D3javu07:47
ubotulshw: information about hardware configuration. In component main, is standard. Version 02.06-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 266 kB, installed size 676 kB07:47
intelikeyheh and no swap.07:47
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jugheadI don't have a pyqt package listed in synaptic... how can I install it?07:47
stdin!find pyqt07:47
ubotuFound: pyqt-tools, memaid-pyqt, pyqt4-dev-tools07:47
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intelikeyi don't have room for swap on the lappy   the hd is 200m    and i dual boot with win95  lol07:48
stdinwhy in the name of all that is holy do you have win95?07:48
intelikeybecause it's a 48607:48
jugheadlol07:49
stdindo you actually use it?07:49
intelikeycame with win 3.1 and i uped it to 9507:49
stdins/do/can/ :P07:49
intelikeyyes07:49
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intelikeyactually have it loaned out right now.  another guy is using it.07:49
=== stdin thinks back to the 3.1 days
stdinand the DOS days :)07:50
intelikeyi know that sounds strange but it's true.07:50
D3javustdin: yes, i tried lshw, it not listing the sound chipset. it suppose to be cs42xx something if not mistaken.07:50
intelikeystdin yes 3.1 required dos07:50
intelikeyso did 9x07:50
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intelikeyD3javu lspci07:51
stdin3.1 and 9x ran on dos, above them dos ran on windows07:51
intelikeyyep  or sorta07:51
Ash-FoxMeh, sucks.. Can't get system76, I'm going to go with Dell.07:51
stdinyeah, "dos mode" :p07:51
intelikeyme was a flakey thang.07:51
D3javuintelikey: no, the chipset not listed on lspci. that is why i try to use lspnp since the sound is pnp.07:52
stdinD3javu: looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSetupSoundCards ?07:52
intelikeyD3javu is it listed in    dmesg    ?07:52
D3javustdin: i'm there. be right back.07:53
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jordo23stdin: I run Kubuntu 64, is there any way to get flash working for Konq?07:53
D3javuintelikey: , dmesg? how?07:53
jordo23Or does anyone know this?07:53
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intelikeyD3javu  dmesg | less07:54
stdinjordo23: I don't think it will work in konq, I know you can do it in ff tho07:54
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intelikeyD3javu i may be working on a false assumption here    did you check?    cat /proc/asound/cards07:55
jordo23is konq considered Mozilla based?07:55
stdinjordo23: you can use the free version tho07:55
stdin!gnash07:55
ubotuAn open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/07:55
stdin!konqueror-plugin-gnash07:55
intelikeyD3javu and less does search strings.   use /string   or  ?string07:55
jordo23stdin: Will gnash work under Konq or just FF??07:55
stdinjordo23: it has a plugin for konq: konqueror-plugin-gnash07:56
stdinjordo23: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash look at the "Flash for AMD64 and PPC" section07:57
jordo23stdin: Is that in a repository?07:57
stdinjordo23: it say's it's in backports07:57
jordo23stdin: Do I have to add that repository to a pretty standard sources.list?07:59
jordo23stdin: Doesn't seem to say in that article07:59
stdinjordo23: it's should be in there already, just commented out, the one with "edgy-backports" in it08:00
jordo23stdin: Do you see this in Ubuntu's package search?08:00
stdinjordo23: i'm on feisty08:01
intelikey!info gnash08:01
ubotuPackage gnash does not exist in any distro I know08:01
stdin!info konqueror-plugin-gnash feisty08:01
ubotukonqueror-plugin-gnash: free Flash movie player - Plugin for Konqueror. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.2-1 (feisty), package size 128 kB, installed size 268 kB08:01
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intelikey!konqueror-plugin-gnash08:01
intelikey!info konqueror-plugin-gnash08:01
stdinintelikey: it's in backports for 6.1008:01
ubotuPackage konqueror-plugin-gnash does not exist in any distro I know08:01
jordo23stdin: I cant find it in package search....should I still try and uncomment those lines?08:02
intelikeyyeah i was actually testing the bot to see if it searched backports.08:02
stdinintelikey: ahh, yeah I already did that, but in /mag form :P08:02
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stdinjordo23: yes, uncomment them08:02
=== intelikey is not hat nice....
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jordo23stdin: yeah....found it in backports list, search must not search backports...08:03
=== intelikey floods the channel and talks offtopic regularly
stdinjordo23: that's because they were disabled08:03
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stdin!botabuse | intelikey08:03
ubotuintelikey: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...08:03
stdin:P08:03
intelikey!botsnack08:03
ubotuYum!08:03
intelikey!good bot08:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about good bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:04
stdinI want a !botslap, for when it' being a bad bot08:04
intelikeyoh well can't win them all08:04
intelikeyyeah08:04
jordo23I don't show it in my sources.list, forgot, generated a new one from website. Anyone know the backports repository line?08:04
intelikey!botsmack08:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about botsmack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:04
stdinjordo23: it will have "backports" in it08:05
Linux_Galorejordo23: varies depending where you are08:05
stdin!botslap08:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about botslap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:05
Linux_Galore!wtf08:05
ubotuWords like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.08:05
jordo23Stupid question - but where would I look on the web for that repository information....I am on the search results page...08:05
stdinjordo23: you use either adept, synaptic, or apt-cache search package08:06
Linux_Galorejordo23: two things you need to look at are "edgy, dapper etc" and were you reside  "europe asia"08:06
stdinjordo23: you want a line like "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-backports main universe multiverse restricted"08:07
jordo23edgy and us....is there a list of these common repositories?08:07
Linux_Galorestdin: yeah, but you can often get a local mirror08:07
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jordo23or a list of the sources.list entries?08:07
stdinjordo23: then "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-backports main universe multiverse restricted"08:07
jordo23stdin: I'll try it...08:07
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intelikeydeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main universe multiverse restricted08:08
intelikeydeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-updates main universe multiverse restricted08:08
intelikeydeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main universe multiverse restricted08:08
stdinjordo23: have a look here too : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine08:08
Linux_Galoreintelikey: yeah but you can get  de,cn.au mirrors08:08
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stdinit has a default list of sources08:09
intelikeyLinux_Galore yes   any working  ru jp cz nl gb au de cn us    or what ever   .archive^08:10
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jordo23installing them now....I HOPE THIS WORKS>.....PLEASE WORK!!08:10
Linux_Galoreintelikey: not sure, I usually google for them, there is a nice au one08:10
Linux_Galoreintelikey: I used the de one for a while08:10
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intelikeyLinux_Galore all those should work and more.08:11
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intelikeythat was just the nine i could think of.08:11
Linux_Galoreintelikey: yeah but the main repo servers can get really laggy for me08:11
stdinLinux_Galore: this is where I find mirrors http://tinyurl.com/tzuy608:11
intelikeybut you are half a world away.08:12
jordo23wow....going slow08:12
matthew0507this might sound like a stupid question but is there a need to instal firewall and anitvirus? if so what packages are there?08:12
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D3javuyikes, i see chipset: 4235 on alsamixer.08:12
jordo23firewall...maybe....A/v....depends on your system...08:12
intelikeymatthew0507 hehhe     no.08:12
jordo23matthew0507: for all practical purposes no...08:13
matthew0507ok cool, thanks08:13
intelikeymatthew0507 firewall only if you want to leave sshd running and have the outside world blocked    or samba08:13
stdinmatthew0507: antivirus: no, firewall: only if you are running a publuc server, otherwise not08:13
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intelikeyyep ^08:14
stdinyou can set both ssh and sambe to only listed to lan too08:14
stdin*samba08:14
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jordo23stdin: once I install the plugin for Konq should I have to rescan for plugins in Konq?08:14
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intelikeyyeah but it's easier to run firestarter or quicktables   most of the time.08:14
stdinjordo23: you shouldn't have to, just restart it08:15
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Linux_GaloreIm off to have a shower08:15
Linux_Galoreand dinner08:15
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stdinintelikey: it's a 1 line setting in both for me, but I still have firestarter :)08:15
jordo23stdin: If this works I will be SOOOOOO happy...08:15
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Linux_galore_firstarter/ the lazy admins firewall08:16
stdinLinux_galore_: yep :P08:16
Linux_galore_stdin: kde really needs something like firestarter08:16
stdinLinux_galore_: It has some firewall app, but it's nowhere near as good08:17
intelikeywell the traffic sniffing feature of firestarter is nice.08:17
stdin!kmyfirewall08:17
ubotukmyfirewall: iptables based firewall configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 1211 kB, installed size 4056 kB08:17
stdinit's poo tho :P08:17
jordo23stdin: What would be a good site to test the functionality...08:17
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stdinjordo23: just head over to http://www.adobe.com/08:18
stdinsee if it works there :S08:18
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intelikeyThe following NEW packages will be installed:08:19
intelikey  firestarter gksu libgksu1.2-1 libgksuui1.0-1 libstartup-notification0 sudo08:19
intelikeyhehhe it's gonna install sudo08:19
intelikeythat's worthless here.08:19
D3javudo i need to restart after modprobe? i modprobed the cs4236 and i see all the sound drivers are loaded on lsmod. but no sound :-/08:19
intelikeyD3javu no08:19
jordo23stdin: adobe.com loads.....but where the flash movie should be I see a bix black box...08:20
jordo23stdin: If you go to adobe.com there is a movie in that box right?08:20
D3javualsamixer is not in mute. hmm08:20
intelikeyD3javu alsamixer     and check settings08:20
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stdinjordo23: it may be using flash 8 tho, try http://accelerateu.org/08:21
stdinit uses flash 708:21
intelikeyD3javu   snd-cs4236-lib  is loaded too ?08:21
D3javuintelikey: snd_cs4236_lib         16512  1 snd_cs423608:22
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intelikeyk08:22
jordo23stdin: says I need latest version of flash player....I think my problem is that Konq doesn't see the dir where the plugin is....do you know what the name of the .so file is and where it should be?08:22
intelikeyD3javu  cat /proc/asound/cards    says it's ok ?08:23
stdinjordo23: I'll have a look08:23
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jordo23stdin: I think when I was messing around with plugin wrapper I deleted the dir under plugins...although I do see libgnashplugin.so, along with two others....08:24
D3javuintelikey: CS4235 at 0x534, irq 5, dma 1&308:24
jordo23stdin: the only dir I have is /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins08:24
jordo23stdin: should I delete the other two in that dir?08:24
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stdinjordo23: no, you shouldn't need to do that08:25
intelikeyD3javu maybe restart artsd ?    idk.08:25
intelikey!sound08:26
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin08:26
jordo23stdin: Is the first entry (libgnashplugin.so) the correct one? Or do I need Konq to find another one?>08:26
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jordo23stdin: from my understanding that is a pretty "general" plugin dir...08:27
stdinjordo23: that looks right, you could try adding the directory "/usr/lib/kde3/" to it too08:27
jordo23stdin: will try08:28
krautmoin08:28
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jordo23stdin: It crashes when I add that dir08:30
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jordo23stdin: there are a ton of .so files in that dir though...08:30
stdinjordo23: hmm, ok08:31
jordo23will try again...08:31
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stdinjordo23: try "sudo update-flashplugin"08:31
StingRayCan somebody tell me how to start individual xsessions for each user? For example user1-:1, user2-:2 and etc?08:31
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StingRayI tried with startx startkde :1 ,but some restrictions on the x are stopping me08:32
fhdgghdfgalguien que hable espaol? xD08:32
fhdgghdfghi! y esas cosas08:32
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jordo23stdin: says command not found08:33
intelikeyStingRay# DISPLAY=':1' ;startx08:34
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StingRayintelikey: X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.08:36
jordo23stdin: I deleted the npwrapper*.so files from that dir but still nothing....didn't need those files...was trying a workaround..08:36
StingRayhow do I authorize the user? intelikey08:36
stdinStingRay: not sure, but I think you can run a script with the startx command, so if you make one for each user with "sudo -u usename startkde" it it, then run like "sudo startx  scriptname -- :1"08:37
Linux_galore_StingRay: press ctrl alt F1  login as that user than run  xinit /usr/bin/startkde  -- :1    change the last digit for each one08:37
Linux_galore_then*08:37
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Linux_galore_StingRay: press ctrl alt F2  to run another  F3 F4  etc08:37
Linux_galore_StingRay: the default display from memory resides under ctrl alt F608:38
jordo23stdin: any other ideas??08:38
StingRayLinux_galore_, can this be done from a remote consol?e08:38
Linux_galore_StingRay: well if they login they can run a remote X session "yes"08:39
stdinjordo23: nope, kinda stuck here08:39
StingRaybut I always get X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting. Linux_galore_08:39
Linux_galore_StingRay: aah root can only start X  might have ti use sudo xinit08:40
Linux_galore_to08:40
Linux_galore_StingRay: you really need to read up on remote X sessions, its not a single page answer08:40
jordo23stdin: I want to check and see if it works in FF....how do I configure plugins in FF?08:41
StingRayI guess so, Linux_galore_, just hoped somebody did it here before me ;)08:41
stdinjordo23: did you install mozilla-plugin-gnash ?08:41
Linux_galore_StingRay: its one of those things that can be done easily but you need to read up though08:41
jordo23stdin: I installed every gnash backports package...08:42
jordo23stdin: That's what I am thinking....I think that Konq is finding the wrong plugin...08:42
stdinjordo23: the adress to check in ff is about:plugins08:42
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Linux_galore_StingRay: you can create a login account that automatically start a remote X session for that user for example08:42
Linux_galore_starts*08:42
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StingRayLinux_galore_ I need multiple simultaneous sessions08:43
Linux_galore_StingRay: yep, you can do that08:43
jordo23stdin: FF states that it sees the gnash plugin and that it is enabled...08:44
StingRayI guess you are speaking about autologin Linux_galore_?08:44
Linux_galore_StingRay: no gdm, xdm login08:44
stdinjordo23: try this in firefox then http://accelerateu.org/08:44
Linux_galore_StingRay: kdm can do it but isnt as nice08:44
jordo23stdin: I see a black box in the corner for a second....then it tells me I need the latest flash player...08:45
D3javuintelikey: done. thanks buddy.08:45
stdinjordo23: and on adobe.com ?08:45
jordo23stdin: I am thinking for Konq though it is a different plugin....the konq and mozilla plugin packages are separate...08:45
D3javuintelikey: oh yea, amarok don't play mp3 by default? only ogg?08:45
StingRayLinux_galore_, I cannot leave behind KDE...it a love from first sight ;)08:45
intelikeyD3javu that's right  :)08:46
intelikey!mp3 | D3javu08:46
ubotuD3javu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:46
Linux_galore_StingRay: you can still default the desktop session to kde even with gdm08:46
stdinjordo23: yeah, but konq can use mozilla plugins too08:46
D3javuoh ok. thanks again. :-)08:46
Linux_galore_StingRay: xdm should already be installed though its the default for the X server08:46
jordo23stdin: this time at adobe.com I see the black box but do get a right click gnash menu...but nothing happens when hitting play08:46
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intelikeyD3javu there is a reason for the last link....    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:47
intelikey:)08:47
intelikeyand good luck to your penguin08:47
Linux_galore_StingRay: the trick is really to setup a login session on the remote machine that automatically connects to the central X server08:47
D3javuheh, he is a nice guy.08:48
stdinjordo23: I don't know then, I've never used 64bit, ask ok #ubuntu too, they should atleast help you get it in firefox08:48
jordo23stdin: konq has the black box but doesn't give me the gnash menu08:48
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StingRayLinux_galore_, the whole thing is about x11vnc. I like its compression very much08:48
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stdinjordo23: is there any reason you need 64but kubuntu?08:49
Linux_galore_StingRay: yeah08:49
StingRayLinux_galore_, I just want individual xsessions, so I can bind an x11vnc to each of them08:49
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jordo23stdin: not really.....but I am in too deep now....08:49
StingRayx11vnc will do the remote part just fine, Linux_galore_08:49
Linux_galore_StingRay: you can do it, its just not a simple process08:49
stdinjordo23: well, I'm out of ideas here :(08:49
jordo23stdin: thanks for the help though....at least it's some progress...08:49
StingRayI guess so, Linux_galore_. I will start with man startx08:49
stdinjordo23: you're welcome :)08:50
Linux_galore_StingRay: just find a howto on www.google.com/linux   there are heaps of them08:50
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StingRayThanks to all my helpers, Linux_galore_, stdin, intelikey08:50
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stdinStingRay: I'm finally going to bed now, I'll see you later :)08:51
StingRaystdin, I hope it will be much later. Bye bye and codeless dreams...;)08:52
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Rob-WestSEX TIME08:53
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FearMothMy D-Link WNA-1330 PCMCIA Ethernet card was automatically detected and set up when I installed Ubuntu. Does anyone know how it's set up to work? I'm trying to set up OpenSuSE on another computer and the same card is not working at all.. does it use ndiswrapper?09:00
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HobbseeFearMoth: if it was with ndiswrapper, it wouldnt work OOTB.09:06
HobbseeFearMoth: it's probably using madwifi, if it's a dlink card09:07
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bkyi just installed kubuntu and my USB mouse isn't working09:08
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bkyit's not even detected under /dev/input09:08
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intelikeyoh man error zone.09:32
intelikeyGLib-ERROR **: could not allocate 368220888 bytes09:32
intelikeyaborting...09:32
dopecan i have like a local copy of amarok open controlling the sound of a remote PC?09:32
Hobbseedope: better to just ssh in, and run alsamixer, i would expect09:33
dopecan alsamixer control playlists and stuff?09:33
dopei figured alsamixer was just volume09:33
Hobbseeno09:33
Hobbseeit's volume09:33
dopeso how would i control a playlist?09:34
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ademanhey i dunno wtf is up with my parent's computer, it seems to have frozen kinda, a konversation window is up, along with a print job window, right click works as soon as i ctrl+alt+f1 and kill konversation.  left click doesn't work no matter what, i tried killing konqueror, but it didn't fix my mouse09:36
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intelikeyademan crtl+alt+backspace     but i would first check to runaway processes    ps -A ux09:37
intelikeywhy am i getting these errors ?09:38
intelikeyGLib-ERROR **: could not allocate 257767578 bytes09:38
intelikeyaborting...09:38
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ademanintelikey: yeah no i've stopped and started X numerous times to no avail09:41
ademanalso, konversation keeps starting every time i start a session, i never added it to my session startup09:41
intelikeysaved state probably starting it.09:42
ademancan i disable that from the command line?09:43
matthew_ademan, make sure it's closed (check for an icon too) before you shutdown/logoff...Kubuntu, by default, saves the current session and restores it the next time you boot up...09:43
ademanmatthew_: well i just flat out kill the proccess09:43
eMaX_re09:43
ademankde is totally unusable right now, so i just ctrl+alt+f109:43
eMaX_anyone here knows how to control when updatedb runs? i.e. how can I set a default run/time/ for cron.daily09:43
ademando everything i can from the command line09:43
ademanon a related note, the kdm login doesnt' recognize left click either09:44
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ademani'm about to try my usb mouse there09:44
intelikeyeMaX_ look in /etc/cron*daily/updatedb09:45
ademanthe USB mouse works like a charm, so does that mean Xorg is messing with that mouse (which is PS/2) or is it a hardware issue? (broken button, shorted wire, broken ps/2 connector) ?09:46
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intelikeyademan sounds like hardware09:47
ademanso there's no chance it's Xorg's fault? like it has some screwy setting related to that ps/2 mouse and that one only?09:48
ademannote i've never touched the xorg.conf on that machine and it's been working fine for months now09:48
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intelikeybroke wire, loose connection, or something09:48
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ademanok, thanks, that's too bad09:49
intelikeyGLib-ERROR **: could not allocate 257767578 bytes09:50
intelikey-/+ buffers/cache:      18180     23704009:50
intelikeypluse 256m swapfile09:50
intelikeyplus^09:51
intelikeythe -/+ is in kbites09:51
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intelikeywow... that has trimed my memory usage.    only 18m used and xorg is running   swap is off for now.  but was on when the error came.09:53
intelikeyfree -m09:53
intelikey             total       used       free09:54
intelikeyMem:           249         29        21909:54
intelikey-/+ buffers/cache:         17        23109:54
intelikeySwap:            0          0          009:54
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n0nehey yal10:01
n0necan u help me with wmvdmod.dll?10:01
n0nei'm trying to play AVI file and i have this error10:02
intelikeypaste.ubuntu-nl.org is still broken.10:02
intelikey!mp3 | n0ne10:02
ubotun0ne: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:02
n0nemp3 ?10:02
intelikeysame infonode for avi10:03
n0neoh ok10:03
intelikey!avi10:03
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:03
intelikeysee  :)10:03
Jucatohe's just lazy :)10:04
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intelikeyJucato  http://pastebin.ca/31287710:05
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intelikeywhat am i missing there ?     am i just not holding my mouth right ?10:05
Jucatoram isn't being used?10:06
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intelikeysure it is.10:06
Jucatooh10:06
JucatoI'm not good at interpreting these things :P10:06
intelikeyk10:06
Jucatosorry.. really10:06
unix_infidelanyone here have any canal phones?10:07
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ursaLooking for help connecting by ssh to my Kubuntu system.10:09
intelikeysshd running on the remote box ?10:09
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ursaNow there's a good question.  I don't think I had to do anything on my previous install of Kubuntu but perhaps I did and forgot.10:10
intelikeyyou did10:10
intelikeyopenssh-server is not a default package10:10
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gnomefreaknever has been iirc10:10
intelikeyno not on this distro10:11
ursaI was running the same install for more than a year, so I must have done it and forgotten about it.10:11
ursaI shall visit adept and install openssh-server right now.  Will that handle enabling scp too?10:11
intelikeyinstall ssh  (meta-package)   or  openssh-server  and set it up to suit you then run sshd10:11
intelikeyhttp://pastebin.ca/raw/31287710:12
ursaI'll be back in a minute or two and let you know how it goes.10:12
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ursaThat did it of course.  You think I would remember this stuff, I always had to make sure to include this with my Red Hat installs10:17
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binkshmm i seem to have 3 files in my home dit but if i try delete them i get an error that they dont exist10:22
binkscan i get rid of them10:22
BenjaminBdoes someone has some links to configure fglrx in kubuntu?10:23
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eMaX_<intelikey> eMaX_ look in /etc/cron*daily/updatedb10:25
eMaX_yes. but there is only the script, not the time info10:25
binksits in the ubuntuguide10:25
binksfglrx that is10:26
BenjaminBhmm, didnt find something, but thanks ill try again ;)10:26
eMaX_anyone here uses beagled on evolution data files?10:27
binkshttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28ATI.2910:27
BenjaminBah10:27
BenjaminBthanks10:27
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binksis it posible to change the location of my /home folder ie mount it on a different drive10:32
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intelikeyyou bet.10:33
binksis there a howto anywhere10:33
Linux_Galore!ati10:33
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:33
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unix_infidelbinks: using cp would work just fine.10:34
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intelikeybinks just add an entry in the /etc/fstab    /dev/<partition> /home   or /home/<username>  if you want it privet.   and the defaults following.10:34
unix_infideljust make sure you know what you're doing.10:34
binkshmm me no what im doin lol10:35
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intelikeybinks what's the partition you want to use ?10:35
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binks#/dev/hda110:36
intelikeybinks what fs is it ?10:37
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binks#/dev/hda1               1       30515   245111706   83  Linux10:37
intelikeyfs ?10:37
intelikeyfs=file system10:38
binksit just says linux if i fdisk -l10:38
intelikeylike ext2 ext3 rieserfs ???10:38
binksi can format it if you like its empty atm10:38
binksprob best if i format10:38
intelikeyok sudo mke2fs -cj /dev/hda110:39
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binksis that ext2 then when its done10:40
intelikeyext310:41
binksjust for the learning part what tells it to be ext310:41
intelikeyext2 doesn't have a journal    that what -j adds10:41
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intelikeyman man    man intro    man mke2fs10:42
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intelikeyjust for the learning part10:42
binks:)10:43
larson9999shoot! i just read that linux is a sever not a desktop.10:43
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larson9999i don't have the heart to tell them it's been my desktop since the late 90's and it's not a server for me.  unless you count X10:44
binkshey my only server is a ubuntu lamps10:45
intelikeybinks                                                            echo '/dev/hda1 /home ext3 defaults 0 0' | sudo tee -a /etc/fstab10:45
binksit only runs mysql10:45
intelikeywhen it's finished formating10:45
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binksok i understand it all but the tee -a bit10:46
intelikeyman tee10:46
intelikeyjust for the learning part10:46
binksok that simple sorry10:46
intelikey:)10:46
binksyou must be a brit with that humor10:46
intelikeylol10:46
intelikeyy'all would say that about a texan10:47
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binksarrr only a bit wide of the mark then10:47
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intelikeybinks                                                              sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media && sudo cp /home/* -R /media && sudo umount /media10:48
binksok its still checking the drive may take a while10:49
intelikeybinks  assuming that all goes as planed you can then                                                                       sudo rm -fr /home/* ;sudo mount /home10:50
intelikeywait.10:51
intelikeyon that cp line we need -a10:51
intelikey-A10:51
intelikeyor something10:51
intelikeylet me check10:51
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wilmani have been qeustioning about recording with ubuntu earlier, but have not yet found a solution. is there anyone here who is verry smart an can solve my problem?10:51
wilmanmy problem is that i can't record with any recording programs10:51
intelikeyok change the -R to -a   on the cp command and that should all work just fine.10:52
intelikeybinks reson -R is recursive but root would own everything -a is also recursive but ownership and permissions are kept.10:53
binksintelikey                        sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media && sudo cp /home/* -a /media && sudo umount /media10:53
intelikeyyes10:53
binksjust reading man cp now to understand10:53
BenjaminBi think there was a package something like "systools", which had passwdgen etc in it, someone knows the correct name?10:53
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binksbiab need to clean up while formatting in progress10:54
intelikeyBenjaminB   pwgen - Automatic Password generation10:55
BenjaminBah thx10:56
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intelikeyBenjaminB or makepasswd - Generate and encrypt passwords10:57
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BenjaminBhmm dont know makepasswd but i'll check it out, thx again10:57
intelikeynp10:57
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jc-dentonhi all11:02
jc-dentonthe keyboard layouts disappeared under kcontrol11:02
jc-dentonhow an i fix that11:02
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matthewhi11:03
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eMaX_anyone knows how one can add annotations or stuff to pdf's? Just things like small comments11:04
jc-dentoni'm sure it's a bug, but i cannot find it11:05
jc-dentonit's not on known problems11:06
jc-dentonbut a friend of mine had the same problem11:06
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jordo23What's the best program to use to mount .iso images?11:10
jc-dentonmount11:11
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intelikeyis that a no brainer ?11:11
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intelikeyjordo23 mount -o loop file.iso <somedir>11:12
zezellebonjour11:12
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zezellesalut vous parler fr11:12
intelikey!fr11:13
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.11:13
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zezelleubotu:  cava toi11:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cava toi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:13
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MilhousePunkRockHello everyone!11:17
intelikeyMilhousePunkRock11:17
MilhousePunkRockDoes someone have the default kernel configuration at hand? I need to know how Kubuntu enables PCMCIA so I can configure the kernel (for another distro) the same way...11:17
jordo23intelikey: is there a gui program to do this?11:17
MilhousePunkRockHey intelikey!11:17
MilhousePunkRockjordo23: Learn to use the cli, that's much more powerful...11:17
intelikeyjordo23 not that i know of.  but i don't gui much.11:17
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MilhousePunkRockjordo23: For what purpose anyway, I just joined the channel...11:17
intelikeyMilhousePunkRock as to the config  i'm not default11:17
intelikeyMilhousePunkRock mount -o loop file.iso /something11:18
MilhousePunkRockKDE itself can do fancy stuff about mounting, as far as I know...11:18
MilhousePunkRockNot that I knew what loop does on the mount command anyway...11:18
jc-dentoni fixed it11:19
jc-dentonby just doing11:19
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jc-dentonhttp://rafb.net/p/0ZNOmo88.html11:19
jc-dentonhowever there should be at least a bug report11:19
jc-dentonor a fix11:19
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oss2021how is every one tonight/this morning11:20
intelikeyspeaking of bug reports.   the app    'paul'   is buggy.  if anyone cares.11:20
intelikeydoesn't allocate memory correctly.11:21
wilmanhow does the cat directory work?11:21
wilman~cat11:21
wilmanubotu: cat11:22
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands11:22
intelikeyman cat11:22
wilmanok11:22
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jordo23MilhousePunkRock: I want to install a game from an iso image...11:25
MilhousePunkRockjordo23: Why don't you just burn the iso and install from CD? ;-)11:25
aspediaI have to migrate one machine mails from kontact to MS thunderbird :(11:26
intelikeyback to the bug in 'paul'   "http://pastebin.ca/raw/312877"  <<< that's what's happening with it.   and i tried xloadimage and it works with the same file   also tested against several files    same accross the board unless the .tiff is less than 1024x800 pixels  then paul worked11:26
jordo23MilhousePunkRock: honestly.....because I am out of CD's lol11:26
MilhousePunkRockaspedia: MS THUNDERBIRD? Don't let the guys from Mozilla read that...11:26
aspediasomeone can help me with that issue? I can only find the other way11:26
aspediasorry, not my idea, ask my boss :(11:26
MilhousePunkRockaspedia: As a sidenote, Thunderbird is NOT by M$11:27
forgeI think he meant thunderbird from in windows11:27
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jordo23MilhousePunkRock: plus I was just wondering if there was a gui tool like NERO or DAemon Tools in windows...11:27
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MilhousePunkRockaspedia: And on your topic, a simple solution could be to check which export options KMail has that Thunderbird can import again...11:27
intelikeyjordo23 but linux doesn't need a "tool"  you simply mount the iso11:28
MilhousePunkRockjordo23: Did you do the mandatory explicit google research on it?11:28
intelikeyM$ needs a "tool" to do that because it cant 'mount' the iso11:28
aspediaI can not find an export function in kmail11:28
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jordo23MilhousePunkRock: I was looking at a program on kde apps called mountiso, but didn't see it in Ubuntu's package search.....just kind of wondering.....no big deal...11:29
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ForgeAusnero can "mount" iso's11:29
Jucato!iso11:29
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn11:29
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ForgeAusis there an iso kio-slave?11:30
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intelikeyForgeAus possably-ossably-ossably11:30
ForgeAuslol intelikey :)11:30
ForgeAusI just thought it'd be interesting thats all11:30
wilmananyone who can record with ubuntu?11:31
wilmancause i see a lot of problems with recording and ubuntu11:31
intelikeywilman record what ?11:31
wilmansound11:31
intelikeyrec11:31
wilmanfrom the mic or linein channel11:31
intelikeyyep11:31
intelikeyaudacity too11:31
wilmanhmm11:31
wilmanyou never did anything for it?11:31
intelikey?11:32
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intelikeyselect the input device11:32
intelikeyin audacity that it.11:32
n0nehey yal11:32
n0neagain :D11:32
intelikeyn0ne11:33
n0neis there some man about installing games?11:33
n0newhat's up intelikey! :)11:33
intelikeytired11:33
n0neyea, i've bored u) sorry)11:33
wilmanno11:33
n0nebut i'm linux noob and just wanna help)11:33
wilmani can't record with arecord either11:33
wilmanand i don't get feedback from my mic11:33
n0neintelikey, can u gimme some help about rpm and deb format, just how to install games\programs in this format?11:35
intelikeyhaven't "bored" me  i've been at it for too long.   19hours now11:35
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intelikeyn0ne in .deb   do    sudo dpkg -i file.deb11:35
intelikey!rpm11:36
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)11:36
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n0nethx alot11:36
intelikeynp11:36
n0neand one more, where game will be installed? how can i make it install to /home/n0ne/games for example?11:37
intelikeynote  try to always use  .deb packages made for your release and version of linux.11:37
vgen0ne: what games are you installing?11:38
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n0nearmagetron :)11:38
vgeno experience with it11:39
waylandbillif there isn't a deb for your distro, and you have to use source, checkinstall is nice if you want to remove it later.11:39
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n0neerm...it's requires SDL driver 0_011:39
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n0nesdl library11:39
n0ne!sdl11:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sdl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:39
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intelikeyhow to force install location      man dpkg        man man    for how to use man pages.        man less      is a good read also.    (less is used as the pager that man puts text in)     but you can always use  dpkg -L <packagename>   to see where/what it installed     and if you pipe that through   | grep bin/      it will only show the executables11:40
n0nethx)11:40
n0nedo you know, is there counter-strike source on linux? :D11:41
vgen0ne: sudo apt-get install armagetron11:41
vgeworks fine after that11:41
intelikeygoogle.com/linux    search counter-strike11:41
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n0neoh thx for that thing with armagetron ::D11:42
vgei would go with native linux games anyway if i would game with kubuntu11:42
vgequake series, enemy territory and things like that11:43
n0nesavage?11:43
waylandbillI've heard people say they've run CS under wine, but I've never done it.11:43
intelikeyn0ne there aren't that many games in linux really      apt-cache search game | grep -v ^lib | less11:43
n0neyea, i know that it's now windows :D just want to relax sometime)11:44
intelikey apt-cache search game | grep -v ^lib | less11:44
vgei would go with enemy territory11:44
n0neintelikey, it's empty :(11:45
vgeactually all good FPS games are for linux too, and i don't count CS here eaven it's doable with wine11:45
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n0neoh my fault, just wrote cashe :D11:45
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intelikeyempty11:46
MilhousePunkRockvge: America's Army is not available for linux in the last few releases11:46
intelikeyapt-cache search game | grep -v ^lib | wc -l11:46
intelikey67511:46
intelikeyanyone have a higher count ?11:47
waylandbill74211:48
intelikeyedgy ?11:48
waylandbillyes11:48
intelikeyk11:48
intelikeyoh i wonder if any are in restricted   i don't have that in my sources.list11:49
intelikeyor plf  for that matter11:50
vgeMilhousePunkRock: donno why, but never liked it, but noone can like every game :)11:50
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MilhousePunkRockvge: It's far less arcade'ish than the usual suspects are...11:50
MilhousePunkRockvge: As you suggested ET, do you know True Combat:Elite?11:51
intelikeyhehhe  i could paste my sources.list and not flood the channel.   it's only three lines long11:51
MilhousePunkRockintelikey: Three lines is already considered flooding in some channels... ;-)11:52
intelikeyshouldn't be.11:52
vgeMilhousePunkRock: actually i just play MUOnline that's only for windows and i have seperate computer just for it, havent really gamed in years11:52
intelikeyif it were a post that was one entry that required three idents  then i could see that.  but i mean really only three lines.11:53
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intelikeysomething like                                                             d                                                              y                                                                q                                  sd                                             b                                                                    t                                                                       11:54
intelikey*311:54
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intelikeydeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main universe multiverse11:55
intelikeydeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main universe multiverse11:55
intelikeydeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main universe multiverse11:55
intelikeythat is three lines but shorter than that one above it.11:55
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MilhousePunkRockWhoever asked about CS earlier (I am too lazy to scroll up) Wolfenstein Enemy Territory with the True Combat: Elite mod will give you a pretty similar, free and native Linux gaming experience...11:56
geniiCrystal Space 3D ?11:57
genii(I was trying to compile that earlier today on a cygwin XP box without success)11:58
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intelikey:)11:59
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geniiintelikey :)11:59
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geniistdin Hey you around?11:59
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geniiAnyone here use cygwin? It's been giving me some headaches12:00
intelikey!seen stdin12:00
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intelikey[ubotu(n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu)]  I last saw stdin12:01
intelikey          (n=tez@unaffiliated/binary2k2) 3h 7m 41s ago, quiting12:01
waylandbillgenii, what seems to be the problem?12:01
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geniiwaylandhill cygwin related?12:02
waylandbillyeah. what's your issue?12:03
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yelonekhi, do you use any antivirus/firewall/anything like that ?12:04
yelonekI've seen avast! for linux12:04
yelonekis it any useful ?12:04
geniiwaylandbill Trying to compile crystalspace3d reports zlib not found no matter what. And then the main engine doesn't run cuz it works on some VFS  dependant on finding zlib. So the libs are installed, pkg-config knows where they are and so it baffles me12:04
intelikeyyelonek i never have used anything like that.   some do when running a mail server or such12:05
waylandbillgenii, is there a configure switch to tell it where to find it?12:05
geniiwaylandbill yeah something like --configure-zlib=/lib   still doesn't work12:06
intelikeycygwin == an scba device for linux to live in M$ space        hehhe12:07
geniiintelikey, stupid thing is I can get it to compile on this 5.10 laptop no probs. But my buddy is developing on an XP box12:08
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n0neis there any clone of "wine" in ubuntu?12:08
intelikeyclone ?12:08
geniiclone?12:08
intelikeywine is there12:08
intelikey!wine12:08
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.12:08
intelikey!info wine12:08
ubotuwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB12:09
n0neyea thx12:09
intelikey!cedega12:09
ubotucedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega12:09
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n0newhat's better cedega or wine? :)12:09
ForgeAustheres also crossover office12:10
geniiI've heard more things run on cedega but ymmv12:10
intelikeyread the links https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine  http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega12:10
waylandbillapples and oranges12:10
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ForgeAusbut thats non-free  proprietry stuff12:10
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n0nei'm already reading12:10
waylandbillgenii, did you try building zlib from source?12:10
milaksHi. How can I put some program to automatically start after kde is loaded?12:10
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geniiwaylandbill Well, thats my last option LOL12:11
intelikeywe're not doing your home work for you kid.  n0ne is his name and none is the help he'll get.12:11
MilhousePunkRockmilaks: Add a link to in KDE's autostart folder12:12
intelikeymilaks that's what ~/.kde/Autostart  is for12:12
waylandbillmilaks: a symbolic link in ~/.kde/Autostart12:12
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n0neok ok, calm down, i'm leaving12:12
geniiwaylandbill The crystalspace source uses Jam instead of the usual make command to compile,perhaps it's something to do with that as well12:12
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milaksThanks guys.12:12
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geniiwaylandbill, Anyhow it's driving me up the wall12:12
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MilhousePunkRockmilaks: Depending on how you set up KDE to handle sessions, it might even start the apps that were running when you shut it down the last time...12:13
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waylandbillgenii, yeah. boost uses that. I had issues getting it to go under cygwin and mingw, but it did go. Something about / needing to be \ or the other way around. I think you have to examine the makefile or Jams equiv.12:13
intelikeythat's default MilhousePunkRock12:14
geniiwaylandbill My second to last option at this point would be to cross-compile from this box for win32 at least for the core executable perhaps12:14
intelikeywaylandbill yes linux / == M$ \12:14
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adikubuntu rulez!!!12:15
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waylandbillgenii, yes a mingw chroot cross-compile would work.12:15
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faeryNatsukihello12:16
geniiwaylandbill Hmm. Thanks for the input on this12:16
faeryNatsukisomebody knows how to set kopete to record or log my chats?12:16
waylandbillintellikey, but cygwin uses / ..  I think when it calls the Jam executable the Jam wants \ ... it's like a real hack job12:16
intelikeywaylandbill yeah scba gear is always a pain12:17
geniiYeah I already went into the makefile and configure.in  and all that to poke around but not getting me much insight LOL12:17
waylandbillgenii, good luck12:17
waylandbillI wish I remembered what I did, but I didn't log it and didn't write it down... bad me. lol12:18
waylandbillit was a pain to get it to compile I do remember that much12:18
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intelikeyfaeryNatsuki i saw kopete one time... didn't like it.  haven't see it sense.12:19
Jucato(since)12:19
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geniiintelikey Thx12:20
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geniiJucato Heh :) Quiet over there12:20
intelikey"any more" Jucato12:20
Jucato:P12:20
intelikeywhat i can't spell i can replace.12:20
faeryNatsukiintelikey: do you have a better option to use yahoo messenger than kopete?12:20
Jucatos/sense/since/g12:20
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intelikeyfaeryNatsuki no.12:21
faeryNatsukiintelikey: i was looking for one a long time, i'm using kopete until i found it12:21
faeryNatsuki:(12:21
intelikeygaim ?12:21
intelikey</shrugs>12:21
faeryNatsukigaim lacks in options12:21
geniibtw as a note to anyone thinking of disassembling their Thinkpad... (which I did earlier today) It's an extreme headache12:22
geniiinteresting pin config on the cpu too12:22
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geniifaeryNatsuki, Well that is why it has a plugin system12:23
tibbarI just got a a wireless a4tech optical mouse and I wanna assign numpad keys 2 it? how...12:24
faeryNatsukimmmm, i'll try gaim, then i take a choice or go back ans ask again :)12:25
faeryNatsukithanks genii12:25
geniifaeryNatsuki, Hope you find something suitable :)12:25
faeryNatsukithanks ;)12:25
geniitibbar I'm not even sure there's a way to do that without some special mouse driver12:26
tibbargenii: do u know where I can get drivers?12:27
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intelikeybut hey youre talking to a guy that'll use    wget -O -  http://someurl.net | less      to read a web page....12:27
geniitibbar No , if they even exist yet12:27
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tibbargenii: I just searched on google and found some but they are all for windows12:28
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geniitibbar The basic problem is that the type of input the mouse gives is different from the type of input a keyboard gives12:29
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geniitibbar If there is any kind of way to do it, it may be within the input sections of xorg.conf, I am going there now to look at the way it is laid out12:30
tibbargenii: is it really that complicated, cause all my friends assign like middle mouse to numpad 8. (to use items in dota)12:31
intelikeyreasigning middle click so it doesn't paste ???12:32
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tibbarwell they use windows... :(12:33
intelikeyfigures12:33
tibbarI have like a 8 button mouse I must be able to reassign at least one of them12:34
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intelikeytibbar have you looked in kcontrol12:34
intelikeyjust a thought12:34
tibbarkcontrol? the control center12:35
intelikeyyes12:35
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intelikeyalt+f2   type in    kcontrol12:35
tibbarwell no, im quite new to Linux12:36
tibbarinput actions?12:36
waylandbillin kopete I accidently removed the menu from a chat window. how can I get it back?12:37
intelikeyalt+M   ?12:38
waylandbillnope.12:38
intelikeyalt+f912:38
geniiWell mouse reassignment looks possible, if convoluted12:38
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waylandbillctrl-m it was12:39
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intelikeylike i said saw kopete one time.12:39
tibbargenii: convoluted?12:39
tibbarwhere in the kcontrol should I look12:41
geniitibbar I'm still looking into it right now. But it looks possible to do12:41
tibbarthanks12:41
intelikeyparifreals mouse12:41
intelikeyi dont really know12:42
yelonekgrrr, anyone using OpenOffice ?12:42
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geniitibbar Is this an Intellipoint mouse?12:43
tibbardon't think so12:44
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tibbarit does not say that it has...12:44
geniiOK12:45
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tibbarcan't you reassign at the input actoins?12:45
MilhousePunkRockyelonek: Yes, me, what's up with it?12:45
yelonekMilhousePunkRock: dictionary's language keeps changing to English12:46
yelonekMilhousePunkRock: I want it to be Polish12:46
yelonekMilhousePunkRock: but I found some macro12:46
yelonekmaybe I will manage12:46
joheyIs there any way to force the screen to rotate by 90 degrees in KDE, even if the monitor does not have a pivot feature?12:47
MilhousePunkRockhmm, no idea, yelonek. Maybe you are better off asking in some OOo channel? Preferably the polish one, if there is one12:47
yelonekgood point ;12:47
yelonek;)12:47
yelonekthx12:47
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geniitibbar How comfortable do you feel on the command-line?12:51
yelonek!openoffice12:51
ubotua free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org12:51
tibbargenii: well I like it, but im still quite new to linux12:51
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lauraglowhello12:53
geniitibbar Basically, the thing can be done but it takes some hand-editing of configuration files and son. So not for the faint. The main idea of what needs to be done can be found here  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=171396&page=212:55
geniitibbar buttons 4 and 5 seem to be always left and right click. So buttons 1,2,3,6,7,8 need to be put into the xorg.conf file as an example there shows about midway down the page12:56
lauraglowI have kubuntu 6.06 and a speetouch usb modem. trying to install a driver for it, I found that no gcc or make are present. how do i install them from the dvd?12:57
tibbargenii: ok i'll look into it12:57
geniilauraglow, from a konsole, do:   sudo apt-get install build-essential12:57
lauraglowi did that, and i got a message saying "build-essential" package not found12:58
geniilauraglow, If you have not yet, do first   sudo apt-get update12:58
lauraglowgenii and that needs to connect to the internet?12:59
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geniilauraglow, It will try whatever places it finds in your /etc/apt/sources.list   file.Usually on the internet tho, yes01:00
lauraglowhow can i do for it to look en the dvd?01:00
geniiIf someone remembers the syntax for cdrom apt-get pls tell her :)01:00
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intelikeySYNOPSIS01:02
intelikey       apt-cdrom [-hvrmfan]  [-d=cdrom mount point]  [-o=config string] 01:02
intelikey                 [-c=file]  [add | ident] 01:02
geniilauraglow, There is an option for apt-get which gets from the cd intead. You may find the exact syntax by  doing: man apt-get          and looking at the manual page01:02
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geniiintelikey Heh :) I knew someone would remember01:02
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=== intelikey normally did sudo apt-cdrom add
geniiintelikey What, that uncomments the cdrom entry in sources.list?01:05
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intelikeyyep01:05
intelikeyor adds the entry if it's not there.01:05
intelikeyalso updates the database01:05
geniihandy01:05
intelikeythen just comment out the cd when you don't want it to use it01:06
geniidoes the block comment way of /*    */ work there for nullifying entire blocks of repos?01:06
genii(just curious)01:07
HymnToLifegenii, why don't you just try for yourself ? :p01:07
HymnToLifeI don't think it works though01:07
intelikeyi don't think so01:07
intelikeybut try it.01:07
geniiHymnToLife, I'm on a livecd so can't try right now:)01:08
HymnToLifegenii, why not ?01:08
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HymnToLifethe life CD has nano and apt-get iirc :p01:08
HymnToLifelive*01:08
intelikeyyeah why not?01:08
geniiinteresting01:08
geniibrb :)01:08
intelikeyand /etc/apt/sources.list01:08
intelikeyand i'm went.01:09
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tibbar_genii: I looked at the howto its really confusing and I don't understand anything :(01:09
intelikeyyou're right, i'm left.01:09
geniiE: Type '/*' is not known on line 2 in source list01:10
genii:(01:10
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geniiWell now we know01:10
Lynouregenii: use # for commenting, and not that type of commenting01:11
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Lynouregenii: # is pretty much the default for config files on Linux01:11
geniiLynoure Yes, it was an experiment. Any block-coment method for there?01:11
peter__Hi,  I'm trying to install Realplayer. It's asking me to enter a prefix for symbolic links. What do does it mean?01:13
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Lynouregenii: most editors have "comment the selection" feature if you do not want to comment line by line01:14
geniihmm01:14
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metro-polisie!nvidia01:16
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:16
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metro-polisietibbar are you andre?01:18
metro-polisietibbar_ are you andre?01:18
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StingRay!XKEYBOARD01:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about XKEYBOARD - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:20
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StingRayCan somebody tell me how to load extension XKEYBOARD on :101:20
StingRayit loads only 7 X extensions...on :0 there are 2701:20
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JohnFluxStingRay: maybe try on #xorg-devel01:21
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StingRay!xorg-devel01:22
JohnFluxStingRay: maybe someone like keithp can help01:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xorg-devel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:22
StingRayI will be grateful...01:22
tibbar__genii: thanks that fixed some things, I can go back and forth in firefox, but I still don't know how to assign my other mouse buttons to numpad01:22
StingRaythis is a little beyond my knowledge01:22
metro-polisiei have linux-image...23 & 27 is that bad?01:22
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metro-polisietibbar__: hello01:23
aileanhey, can anyone explain why adept wants to remove my nvidia drivers?01:23
tibbar__metro-polisie: imba!01:23
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tibbar__metro-polisie: willie kom maak my mouse fixed!01:23
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metro-polisietibbar__: eng!01:23
tibbar__metro-polisie: it is half01:24
metro-polisietibbar__: can u c if u have linux-image... 23 & 27 installed?01:24
tibbar__metro-polisie: where?01:24
metro-polisietibbar__: adept01:24
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metro-polisie2all how do i kill the xserver i tried init 1 but made my pc restart01:26
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tibbar__metro-polisie: there is no linux-image 23 im my adept01:26
metro-polisietibbar__: && 27?01:26
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lupine_85ailean: using unofficial packages?01:27
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tibbar__metro-polisie: nope the closest to that is linux-image-generic01:27
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metro-polisietibbar: linux-image-2.6.15-23 ht cam & linux-image-2.6.15-27 lol01:29
metro-polisie!init01:29
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto01:29
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tibbarmetro-polisie: I have linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic installed01:30
metro-polisie!killx01:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about killx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:30
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metro-polisietibbar: dapper hti -generic ni01:30
cox377does anyone here run smoothwall?01:30
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aileanlupine_85, yeah01:31
cox377basically.. on windows i used to use an application called winscp to edit smoothwall via ssh, i'm looking for a linux eqivelent to use that has a gui01:31
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bronze_0_1hi guys, I just added apt-get installand tried a ./configure on GNU math library package.  The ./configure reports no gcc found but which finds it and it appears to run when invoked by hand.  Any ideas why the ./configure wouldn't find it?01:31
lupine_85ailean: then wait01:31
lupine_85I'm getting an update out now01:31
lupine_85assuming you're using http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk01:31
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bronze_0_1Sorry , dropped an important word01:31
tibbar__metro-polisie: willie u must come home to fix my mouse's side buttons, im using waldo's mouse01:32
bronze_0_1hi guys, I just added apt-get installand tried a ./configure on GNU math library package.  The ./configure reports no gcc found but which finds it and it appears to run when invoked by hand.  Any ideas why the ./configure wouldn't find it?01:32
bronze_0_1rats, one last try01:32
Tm_Tcox377: Konqueror, you can split window... doh, it's hidden in basic Kubuntu Konqi? :o01:32
bronze_0_1hi guys, I just added apt-get installand tried a ./configure on GNU math library package.  The ./configure reports no gcc found but which finds it and it appears to run when invoked by hand.  Any ideas why the ./configure wouldn't find it?01:32
geniimetro-polisie, Why not just ctrl-alt-backspace?  But the thing is that the login manager also uses X so it will usually kill your desktop session but then go back to kdm and so on. Do you want to prevent X from starting when you boot or womething?01:32
bronze_0_1The missing word is gcc, right after install.01:32
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metro-polisiegenii: nv drivers not working in dapper want to install offical nv drivers (.run)01:33
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cox377Tm_T: cheers, i shall take a look01:33
Tm_Tcox377: Anyway, just split it and you have that "two-side" view etc.01:34
Tm_Tcox377: You can even open Konsole inside Konqueror window if you like. ;)01:34
cox377Tm_T: what do i put into the directory bar to connect to it?01:34
cox377How do i open konsole?01:34
cox377through it01:34
aileanlupine_85, thanks . . . i just realised that you maintain this repo...01:35
lupine_85:)01:35
Tm_Tcox377: sftp://user@host I think01:35
geniimetro-polisie, Even if you are messing with the drivers you do not need to quit X for that. You just drop to the kdm scren after and then choose the option there to restart the server01:35
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cox377Tm_T: ok.. shall tell yah if it's that in 2 secs01:36
Tm_Tcox377: Hmm, can't remember default shortcut, check from settings. No idea if it can be found from menu too.01:36
lupine_85ailean: are you running the 9746 or 9631 drivers right now01:36
lupine_85and amd64 or i386?01:36
metro-polisiegenii: i will try that btw is kdm the login screen?01:36
aileanlupine_85, 9629 actually, and i38601:36
geniimetro-polisie, Yes01:36
lupine_85ho hum, old drivers are ollllld01:36
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aileanlupine_85, but adept should want to upgrade me, right? instead of removing what i have installed01:37
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lupine_85assuming the packages are there01:37
lupine_85it's trying to remove old packages to get new ones in01:37
lupine_85there isn't a matching l-r-m from met "yet"01:37
lupine_85me*01:37
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aileanlupine_85, what do you recommend i do then?01:38
lupine_85wait01:38
aileansure01:38
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lupine_85for ~1 hr at the most01:38
D3javueh, i was trying to install firefox via adept but there was only firefox 1.5.01:38
cox377Tm_T: checked sftp://root@192.168.0.1:222 but no joy01:38
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Tm_Tcox377: Hm?01:39
tibbar__Section "InputDevice"01:39
Tm_TLet me try...01:39
tibbar__        Identifier      "Configured Mouse"01:39
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tibbar__        Driver          "mouse"01:39
tibbar__        Option          "CorePointer"01:39
Tm_Ttibbar__: Krhm!01:39
tibbar__        Option          "Device"                "/dev/input/mice"01:39
tibbar__        Option          "Protocol"              "ExplorerPS/2"01:39
tibbar__        Option          "ButtonMapping"         "1 2 3 6 7"01:39
tibbar__        Option          "ZAxisMapping"          "4 5"01:39
tibbar__EndSection01:39
tibbar__oops01:39
aileanok lupine_85 - message me when you're free. cheers :)01:39
Tm_T!paste01:39
ubotupaste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)01:39
tibbar__sorry01:39
genii!pastebin | tibbar__01:39
ubotutibbar__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:39
cox377Tm_T: i'm just downloading secpanel, hopefully that shall do it01:40
tibbar__tibbar: hello01:40
geniitibbar__ But yes, I think that is the correct method to go about trying01:40
Tm_Tcox377: Well Konqueror _should_ work.01:40
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Tm_Tcox377: Work.01:42
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Tm_Tcox377: Dunno why it took several times until it got through.01:43
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tibbar_can somone tell me how to assign my mouse button 6 to numpad 801:44
Tm_Tcox377: Anyway, sftp://user@host:port should work, if it whines some silly ssh error then keep trying, should eventually work.01:44
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metro-polisiegenii: how do i go back after i killed x?01:45
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geniimetro-polisie, After changing X stuff, you exit KDE to the login screen. Then from there on the options menu you can re-start the X server.If the login screen appears agin you know that the changes you made work at least with that part. Then just login again to KDE01:47
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geniimetellius, If the login screen cannot reappear, this means X is now messed up01:48
geniiarg01:48
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geniimetro-polisie,  If the login screen cannot reappear, this means X is now messed up01:48
metro-polisiei know my x is messed up but i use vesa then x works thats wat i am trying to fix01:49
metro-polisieanyways the nv driver wanted gcc and kernel src so i installed kernal headers and gcc01:50
lupine_85metro-polisie: error messages are to be found in /var/log01:50
lupine_85probably Xorg.0.log01:50
lupine_85pastebin it and let's see what's the matter :)01:50
geniimetro-polisie, What I am saying is that if you choose the option from the login screen to restart the X server and the login screen reappears fine, the changes you made whatever they happened to be were such that the X server is at least OK enough to restart01:51
metro-polisielupine_85: i alreadly uninstalled nvidia-glx.deb...01:51
lupine_85and you installed the nvidia binary drivers from $somewhere_else ?01:51
lupine_85in that case, sudo modprobe -r nvidia && sudo modprobe nvidia01:51
metro-polisielupine_85: i am still busy installing the nv drivers01:52
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lupine_85eh01:52
metro-polisielupine_85: the .run ones (9746)01:52
lupine_85so you want /etc/init.d/?dm reload ?01:52
metro-polisiei'll try that01:53
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D3javuyikes, guys. Any idea why can't install firefox via apt-get? firefox: Depends: libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.9.0) but it is not installable <-- few errors like this01:55
D3javubut i've updated my system before try install it01:55
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metro-polisielupine_85: it works thx01:57
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metro-polisielupine_85: but i needed make so i installed make now.. .:P01:58
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metro-polisielupine_85: isn't there a site that says what apps i need because all this killing x and restarting it to see what i need is taking so long01:59
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=== metro-polisie of to check wat i need next...
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metro-polisie!kernel source02:09
ubotuTo install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages02:09
metro-polisielol didn't think that would work :P02:09
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genii!zliblg02:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about zliblg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:15
genii!info zliblg02:15
ubotuPackage zliblg does not exist in any distro I know02:15
geniibah02:15
genii!info zlib02:15
ubotuPackage zlib does not exist in any distro I know02:15
genii!info libz02:15
ubotuPackage libz does not exist in any distro I know02:15
geniiBizarre02:15
genii!libz02:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:16
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genii!glibz02:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about glibz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:17
Jucatogenii: ...02:18
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geniiJucato, Yeah i know bot abuse02:19
geniiLOL02:19
Jucato:)02:19
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geniiJucato, Strangely apt-cache search   on this 5.10 box shows quite a few zlib/libz results but installing them seems nigh impossible02:21
Jucatohm..02:21
dwidmannI think the bot likes it ;)02:22
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Jucatoyou're looking for zlib?02:22
stamen02:22
stamenhi02:22
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stamenwhat is hyper active memory02:22
geniiJucato Well, the lib for it02:22
dwidmannmemory that has had too much caffeine and sugar02:23
dwidmann(just kidding)02:24
HexJamGuys, I was wondering if you could help me, in /var/log my 'kern.log' 'messages' 'syslog' files are being constantly filled up with this message:02:24
HexJam   atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0x81 on isa0060/serio0).02:24
HexJam   atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e001 <keycode>' to make it known.02:24
geniiJucato, I'm trying to cross-compile something on this 5.10 for target win32 and it chokes failing to find zlib and so on02:24
HexJamThis message is produced even when I don't touch the keyboard (I checked this by putting a tail -f on them & leaving the computer alone) However my KB is a wireless one & when I take out the batteries this message stops.  At a guess I think it my be some kind of 'ping' between the KB & reciever.02:24
HexJamAfter searching the web a bit I found this link:02:24
HexJam   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11949902:24
HexJamwhere people had a similar problem, but the solution doesn't work for me, because when I open up  /usr/share/hotkey-setup/generic.hk the file is empty.  Any ideas?02:24
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Jucato!info zlibc | genii02:25
ubotuzlibc: Uncompressing C Library. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9k-2 (edgy), package size 67 kB, installed size 280 kB02:25
geniiJucato, smartass02:26
geniiLOL02:26
Jucatogenii: oh I see where you're going wrong02:26
Jucato!info zlib1g | genii02:26
ubotuzlib1g: compression library - runtime. In component main, is required. Version 1:1.2.3-13ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 69 kB, installed size 160 kB02:26
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Jucatoit's a '1', not a small 'L'02:26
andreaswhi02:26
geniiJucato Aha!02:26
geniiYeah was driving me nuts02:26
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Jucatogenii: but if you're compiling you should get the -dev package for it02:27
genii:)02:27
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aleksanterihey where's the kubuntu font directory?02:28
genii!info gzlibc02:29
ubotuPackage gzlibc does not exist in any distro I know02:29
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Jucatogenii: apt-cache search is better at these things02:29
andreaswglibc?02:29
andreaswmaybe02:29
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Jucatothere's also no gzlibc02:29
Jucatoaleksanteri: easiter to type in fonts:/ in Konqueror02:29
HexJamAfter searching the web a bit I found this link:02:30
HexJam   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11949902:30
HexJamwhere people had a similar problem, but the solution doesn't work for me, because when I open up  /usr/share/hotkey-setup/generic.hk the file is empty.  Any ideas?02:30
geniiJucato Yeah I'm beginning to suspect02:30
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aleksanteriok ty Jucato :P02:30
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Jucatoaleksanteri: but to be exact, system fonts are in /usr/share/fonts, user fonts would be in ~/.fonts (iirc)02:30
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aleksanteriok thx :P02:30
aleksanteriwas looking for that02:30
Gingillohow to open dekorator? i don't find the command ;_;02:30
JucatoGingillo: it's not a program. it's a window decoration02:31
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JucatoSytem Settings -> Appearance -> Window Decorations02:31
geniiWell, time for a nap ... have fun all02:31
geniiJucato, Thanks again02:31
Jucato:P02:31
Jucatogenii: you owe ubotu a snack02:31
genii!botsnack02:31
ubotuYum!02:31
genii:)02:31
Jucatohehe :)02:31
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aleksanteriok how to reload the fonts?02:37
Jucato?02:38
Jucatodid you use the font installer?02:38
aleksanteriuhhh02:38
aleksanterii just did cut/paste02:38
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aleksanterioh no02:38
Jucatooh...02:39
Jucatoanyway, the fonts should be in your list already02:39
aleksanterioh02:39
Jucatojust restart the app you want to use it in02:39
aleksanterioh02:39
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giuseppe_salve c' qlc italiano tra voi?02:40
aleksanterinice, ty :)02:40
aleksanteri!blablabla02:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about blablabla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:40
aleksanteri!it|giuseppe_02:40
ubotugiuseppe_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!02:40
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tibbar__can somone tell me how to assign my mouse button 6 to numpad 8?02:42
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tibbarmetro-polisie's drivers is working 100% now (9646)02:47
tibbarthx lupine_8502:48
lupine_85np02:48
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acemowhen running apt-get update, im getting an unusual error from gpg, saying my wine repository doesnt has the right key02:52
acemohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1155/ here is the exact output02:53
acemobut wine repository doesnt needs gpg keys right? :S02:53
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tibbarcan some one help me asign my keyboard buttons to mouse button's02:54
pirx_hello02:55
pirx_POLAND server ?02:55
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tibbari use the same server for wine...02:56
tibbaracemo: is that in your repository?02:56
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acemosec, lemme paste my repository02:56
Toxhi , where can i find a tool to close window forced, i use it when had ubuntu02:56
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acemowrong button :/02:56
tibbarTox: not sure what you want ... try "xkill"02:57
MilhousePunkRockTox: Ctrl-Alt-Esc brings up a little skull which kills the window you click on with it02:57
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tibbarYeah thats xkill02:58
Jucato:)02:58
acemohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1156/ heres my repository02:58
Toxi found it tool on panel menu in ubuntu and placed in02:58
StingRayanybody using tightvnc?02:58
tibbarStingRay: about 3 years ago02:59
StingRaytibbar, do you change keyboard layouts?02:59
StingRaytibbar, I cannot change them over vnc.02:59
tibbarStingRay: no just want to use a mouse butten for numpad03:00
tibbarStingRay: o um03:00
dane:P03:00
danei can't get on dal net03:00
daneoh here we go i think03:00
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tibbardane: your on the net..03:00
daneyea i know that03:01
danei've always been here03:01
Toxit looks like as simple icon, when i push on it cross cursor appears and dialog any ideas in kubuntu where i can find it ?03:01
tibbarStingRay: can't you use your keyboard?03:01
StingRayI cannot undestand why vnc will not start all extensions...03:01
danehehe03:01
danethis rocks03:01
daneyou guys are living03:01
StingRaytibbar, I an not on :003:01
tibbarStingRay: so your runing to xservers?03:01
StingRaytibbar, I use startkde & and upon this 20 extensions are missing icluding XKEYBOARD03:01
danelol!03:02
daneremote :D03:02
StingRaythe only way to switch is via xmodmap....but it is ugly and I have to do a lot of manual editing03:02
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StingRaysetxkbmap returns an error...03:03
HexJamGuys this is more of a KDE question than Kubuntu but... When I use Konquror in Web Browser profile and I hit the Home button I'd expect/want it to take me to my Web Home page but when I'm in File Manger profile I'd expect it to take me to my ~/ dir.  Is there a way to set this behaviour?03:03
JucatoHexJam: currently, no03:03
HexJamDrat03:04
tibbarStingRay: why are you not on :003:04
HexJamMaybe I should send a feature request03:04
HexJam:)03:04
Jucatoyou could, not sure it could be implemented anytime soon before KDE 403:04
HexJamI mean it seems logical to me that that's the way it should behave03:04
StingRaythis is not a shared session, tibbar, it a terminal session on :1, :2 and etc03:04
tibbarStingRay: when i ran dapper i had porblems with keyboard layouts but i just set mine to us...03:06
StingRayI cannot do without switching, tibbar03:07
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matthewhey guys03:08
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sampo-How I can stop ckfs checking filesystem at boot? tune2fs -c 0 -i 0 /dev/md0 does not help03:08
tibbarStingRay: i know i'm kinda noob but i don't realy know what your doing what do you switch ? console sessions?03:08
adilikkkkk03:08
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StingRaytibbar, I am speaking only about the keyboard layouts, us<->bg in my case03:09
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tibbarStingRay: so y don't you just set us to bg?03:09
StingRaywhen logged to :0 the user is just fine becuase all extensions are lodaded properly, but if I start the session remotely with xstartup script only serveral extensions are loaded, tibbar03:09
tibbarStingRay: does it tell you that missing icluding after you set it?03:09
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tibbarStingRay: ok so your pc/session is working fine03:10
StingRaytibbar, kde uses imho setxkbmap to change layouts...it is missing in a terminal session03:10
StingRayyup, tibbar03:10
tibbarStingRay: and when you login via other pc (in your case via a console) the the layouts doesn't load03:12
DaSkreechhi nikkiana03:12
StingRaythe other way is by editing the xorg.conf but it again uses setxkbmap...I will have to rewrite the xmodmap.bg, because it does not correspond correctly at all03:12
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StingRaytibbar, I don't log via console, but using the tightvncviewer.03:12
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StingRaytibbar, I use direct GUI login, no consoles03:13
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tibbarStingRay: ok so do you know whats resposable for the problem eg. tightvnc or kubuntu and do you use kubuntu on both pcs?03:14
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tyl3rI guys03:15
tyl3rI have a problem with nvidia drivers03:15
tyl3rthey were working good till 2 days ago03:15
StingRaytibbar, I an a newbie and still cannot figure out who is starting the extensions...tightvnc, the starkde command or something else.03:15
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AndyBetyl3r: whiche card...03:15
lupine_85yep03:15
lupine_8510 minutes03:15
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tyl3rbut without a reason they stopped working - CARD: Nvidia FX550003:16
adilu should install ALSA03:16
StingRaytibbar, they are part of the X, but this is all I know :)03:16
lupine_85tyl3r: they'll be working again in 10 minutes03:16
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tyl3rI tried to reisntall them but I get a libnvidia-tls error03:16
lupine_85I assume you're another one who didn't read the manual :p03:16
tyl3rI didn't read the manual?03:17
tibbarStingRay: i know start kde command well i think so03:17
AndyBeyou can install new drivers., wich ubutu you working on?03:17
tyl3rkubuntu 6.1003:17
AndyBeso try to get newer driver.03:17
tyl3rthe version of the drivers is the last one and worked for a month03:17
tibbarStingRay: "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm start" or "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart"03:18
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lupine_85tyl3r: and you installed them using...03:18
mhbHi all, does anyone have experience with an opensource implementation of speech recognition?03:18
tyl3rit says libnvidia-tls.so expected in /usr/lib/tls, found in /usr/lib03:18
lupine_85mhb: there isn't one really.03:18
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tyl3rusing the .run installer as I always do03:19
lupine_85there's a java toolkit though03:19
lupine_85ah, the .run03:19
AndyBeI never got a problem with my old M440, nice.03:19
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tyl3rbut I also tried .deb packages03:19
tyl3rI always get the same error03:19
mhblupine_85: which one?03:19
lupine_85well, there was a kernel update a couple of days ago so you need to recompile. Aside from that, your problem looks like general brokenness. uninstall everything and go from the .debs in about 10-20 minutes03:19
tyl3rI tried to bypass the libnvidia error with --force-tls=classic and it works, but then Xserver won't start03:20
lupine_85mhb: I don't remember the name, sorry03:20
StingRaytibbar, I will have to start session with kde start instead of startkde03:20
tyl3ralberto milone .deb03:20
lupine_85ah. I dunno if he's updating his03:20
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tyl3rhe is03:20
lupine_85http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk03:20
lupine_85ok03:20
tyl3rbut the problem is the same03:20
tyl3ralways libnvidiatls03:20
lupine_85did you uninstall the .run with the --uninstall flag?03:20
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tyl3ryeah that too03:21
tyl3rI'm not a noob this is why I tried all that I could in these 2 days03:21
lupine_85dunno then. if it were my system I'd get with the sudo rm, but that'd be me randomly hacking stuff to see if it works03:21
tyl3ralso reinstalled xorg03:21
lupine_85hence not recommended03:21
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StingRaytibbar, I did a restart on the kdm, but this did not affect my current session in any matter.03:22
tyl3rif I install the drivers with --force-tls=classic, the installation goes, but...03:22
lupine_85ok, here libnvidia-tls.so is a part of nvidia-glx03:22
tyl3rthe X won't start03:22
lupine_85and it installs it to both places03:23
tyl3rI know but why it says there is an error?03:23
StingRayI cannot use kdm in my xstartup script for tightvnc, becuase I get only a grey screen. kdm should be started by root only.03:23
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lupine_85I have no idea. I try not to use the .run files if I can help it03:23
AndyBeI use Version: 1.0-9631, because it is so old, got no problem - only with composite.03:23
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tyl3rwith the --force-tls option X says fatal IO error 10403:24
AndyBeI' dont rembember there whas an screept around...03:24
tibbarStingRay: have you tried any other app besides tight vnc?03:24
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tyl3rI don't figure out how they stopped working without a reason03:25
StingRayx11vnc, realvnc, Remote Administrator 2.2 with wine, XrealVNC, tightvnc, FreeNX, tibbar03:25
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AndyBespecial configuration tyl3r ?03:25
StingRaytibbar, FreeNX is unmatched, but this session resuming is a nightmare03:25
tyl3rwhat?03:25
tyl3rlike for aiglx you mean?03:26
tibbarStingRay: does all or most of them give you the same problem?03:26
AndyBeyes.03:26
StingRayall vnc's the same, tibbar03:26
StingRayHowever FreeNX, is starting kdm somehow thus loading everything correctly, tibbar03:27
tyl3ryeah I had xorg configured for that before, but after new installations of the driver it subscribed those options and xorg.conf is fresh now03:27
tibbarStingRay: but resuming sessions is bad,,, :(03:27
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StingRaytibbar, I found something very valuable for freeNX thus allowing me to resume almost all sessions, but still I cannot rely on it 99%03:28
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StingRaytibbar, you BG?03:29
dhqis there any channel where i can look for a job please i need help i know this is not the channel to ask but i am desparate03:30
ScarFreewillStingRay: are you registered on irc?03:30
StingRaynope :( ScarFreewill03:30
ScarFreewillum,,,03:30
ScarFreewillStingRay: go to #meme03:31
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mario_how can I talk with the italian kubuntu chat?03:36
Tm_T!it03:36
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!03:36
Tm_Tmario_: /j #kubuntu-it03:37
ScarFreewill!afr03:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about afr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:37
mario_ciao a tutti....che mi puo dare una manino per mettere su i driver mesa?03:37
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mario_c' qualcuno?03:38
Tm_Tmario_: Hm, you should join to italian channel. ;)03:38
matthewhi03:39
matthewwhen i scroll in konqueror on digg page, my screen is jaggy >,< but works fine on FF03:39
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matthewhow do i fix the konqueror  to smoother scrolling?03:40
gdiebelmatthew: known issue with digg03:40
matthewok thanks. i guess i'll be using it with FF for the time03:41
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aspediaI have one machine from that kontact there shall be a migration to thunderbird on microsoft03:47
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aspediasomeone can tell me how I can do a migration from kamil to MS with thunderbird03:47
aspedia?03:47
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esaymhaha lame questions coming up03:51
ScarFreewillis there no gamers that use a mouse button to help them?03:52
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esaymwhen i am in a console log in and i type a comand that displays alot of text, how to i scroll the text to be able to read it all?03:52
esaymandone know what im talking about?03:52
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Jucatoin Konsole? mouse wheel or scroll bar03:53
Jucatoor Shift+PgUp/Dn03:53
esaymok let me see03:53
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MilhousePunkRockesaym: Or you run that command followed by | more03:53
tibbargnomefreak: elo03:53
Jucatoor | less03:53
MilhousePunkRockesaym: Then you will always have to move one page further with the spacebar03:54
esaymokm shift +pgup works03:54
esaymthank you03:54
Jucatoless does more, as weird as that sounds03:54
tibbargnomefreak: do you know how to reassign mouse buttons03:54
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BluedogI have 2gb ram, is 3gb swap enough?03:56
BluedogOr is 4 better.03:56
Jucato:O03:56
Jucatohow much RAM do you have?03:56
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Bluedog2 :D03:57
Jucatohah!03:57
Bluedogho ho03:57
Bluedoglol03:57
Jucatoyou'll barely see your swap used, then. but 1GB is a safe bet03:57
Jucato512MB if you're confident03:57
Bluedogthx03:58
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HawkwindBluedog: If you have 2GB of RAM, you won't need more than 512MB for swap04:01
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HawkwindI never have more than 512MB on any machine I run, and all machines have 1GB of RAM or more04:01
Bluedogis it best to have a home partition, a ubuntu partition, then 1 for swap?04:01
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HawkwindBluedog: You should have atleast / and /home and /swap04:02
Bluedogcool04:02
HawkwindBluedog: At the very least that is04:02
Bluedogim dual booting04:02
Bluedogso ive a couple more04:02
HawkwindBluedog: I have 15 partitions, for just one OS.  But I have over 750GB of space04:02
Bluedoghah :D04:02
HawkwindI also use a /boot partition, just habit from old days.  It's not necessary by no means, just something I've always stuck with04:02
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lupine_85Hawkwind: I've started using LVM recently04:03
lupine_85it's ++++++++++=04:03
Jucato!lvm04:03
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO04:03
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matthewwhat is the purpose of a swap partition? i've set mine to 2gb but no idea what for -.-04:03
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Jucatomatthew: it's used by your system for extra space when you run out of physical RAM04:04
Hawkwindmatthew: When the system is doing stuff and is using all of the physical RAM, swap will then be used04:04
Jucatolupine_85: is LVM a SATA/RAID only thing?04:04
lupine_85if you don't have it and run out of physical RAM, linux kills processes (at random?)04:04
lupine_85Jucato: no04:04
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HawkwindJucato: Absolutely not04:04
paolo_hi: how can i kill a process with an unknown pid but with a known name? thnks04:04
HawkwindJucato: I hear nothing but good things about LVM, I've just never used it pesonally04:05
lupine_85I'm using it to join a SATA & IDE hard disc into a 370GB volume group04:05
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Hawkwindpaulw_vm: ps aux | grep name04:05
Jucatooh ok. I go read :)04:05
lupine_85online resizing of partitions... just wowo04:05
Jucatopaolo_: Ctrl+Esc ?04:05
Hawkwindpaulw_vm: Replace 'name' with the name of the app, and that will give you a PID#04:05
Hawkwindpaolo_: That was for you, sorry04:05
Hawkwindpaolo_: Or you can do something like killall amarok or whatever, but that may not necessarily work04:06
lupine_85almost as good as not having to worry about where on the 'disc' the partitions are located04:06
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Jucatoah...04:06
Jucatothen with libpata, no more worrying about where the disk is (hda or hdb, etct)04:07
paolo_Hawkwind: do you mean "kill -SIGKILL myapp" instead of "kill -SIGKILL pid" ?04:07
lupine_85mm, basically you join multiple discs into a volume group (though you can just use one if you like)04:08
lupine_85then you carve that volume group however you like04:08
Hawkwindpaolo_: You don't necessarily need the -SIGKILL part04:08
Hawkwindpaolo_: I just use killall myapp or ps aux | grep myapp, get the PID# and then kill it04:08
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paolo_Hawkwind: thnks04:08
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paolo_i didn't see "all"04:09
lupine_85partitions (logical volumes) are allocated in ~32MB blocks across the volume group, so you don't need to faff around getting a contiguous space for new/resizing partitions04:09
lupine_85that + resize2fs (so you can online resize the partitions) is amazing04:09
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PhillPhorrarihello everybody, anyone there?04:11
Tm_TNope, never.04:11
Jucatono one04:11
Admiral_Chicagoever04:12
PhillPhorrarilol :D how is nobody?04:12
Admiral_Chicagogood, how is it going PhillPhorrari and Jucato !!!104:12
Jucatoheh :)04:13
Jucatocold :)04:13
PhillPhorrariwell, its swell with me04:13
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PhillPhorrariJucato: where are you from then?04:14
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dopewould i have to setup a linux router in order to do what this page says http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pete/upside-down-ternet.html04:14
Jucatosomewhere in asia04:14
tyl3rlupine still here?04:15
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tyl3rI tried with your .deb driver too04:15
PhillPhorrariah, here in europe its exeptionaly warm for this time of the year04:15
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kjdisWhile compiling, "video.h:27:28: linux/compiler.h: No such file or directory", could that mean I don't have the kernel headers installed properly?04:18
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ForgeAuswow automatix is interesting04:19
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matthew!automatrix04:20
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe04:20
Jucato!automatix04:20
constrictorjust installed a LAMP stack (edgy) and then got kubuntu-desktop but now i cannot login with kdm but i can log in from the console any ideas anyone04:20
ForgeAusoops breaksss some systems?04:20
ForgeAus!WorksForMe04:20
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.04:20
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JucatoForgeAus: it's notorious for making some of the upgrades from Dapper to Edgy almost impossible04:21
ForgeAusI think its evolved since a script..... but proly just a gui wrapper04:21
ForgeAusjucato I was impressed how easy to use it was...04:21
dopewho do i figure out what version my WRT54G router is?04:22
Admiral_Chicagobut there is the idea of you know what is happening vs. easy of use04:22
ForgeAusum dope doesn't it have a status page?04:22
dopeyea04:22
ForgeAusdoesn't say version on there?04:22
dopebut it just says the name, no version number04:22
dopethere's a firmware version04:23
dopethat's it though04:23
ForgeAusok I got a WRT as well just the software in it is custom04:23
ForgeAusnot the original linksys ones04:23
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dopei want to put openwrt on it but i don't know the version04:23
ForgeAusmaybe ask on a linksys or router/networking forum?04:24
tyl3rguys I have a problem with nvidia drivers04:24
ForgeAusand/or channel04:24
dopecrap04:24
dopei thought you guys might know04:24
tyl3rit says could not find nvidia.ko04:24
tyl3rand I can't use the drivers ;(04:24
tyl3ralso failed to load module wfb04:25
dopeshit it's version 504:26
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Admiral_Chicago!language04:26
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.04:26
Admiral_Chicago:)04:26
dope:-/04:26
PhillPhorraridope: how did you tell?04:26
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dopelooked on the bottom of it04:26
dopesays v604:26
dopeerr04:26
dopev504:26
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PhillPhorrariwhat is so bad about v5?04:27
binks!ati04:27
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:27
dopehttp://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Hardware/Linksys/WRT54G04:27
dopethat says it04:27
PhillPhorrariok thnx, i have the same router you see04:28
binksis there a way to get k menu to rescan as it has some apps in the list that are not installed04:28
dopeyea like when i installed gvim it didn't show up in the list04:29
ForgeAusbinks you could probably manually delete them from the menu editor04:29
vgebinks: second click on in and choose "edit" then when the menu editor opens press "save"04:29
ForgeAusbut rescan? not sure if there is an intial scan!... ist here?04:29
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vge*on it04:29
matthewanyone know keyboard shortcut to minimize all windows?04:30
ForgeAusmatthew not sure about keyboard shortcut but you can add a desktop aplept to the taskbar to do something similar04:31
binksvge thanks that did it :)04:31
ForgeAusgrr applet04:31
vgebinks: np04:31
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matthewcool. so what keyword do i search for in Adept?04:31
AmadeoHow do I install Wine in Kubuntu? It's not in Adept..04:32
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vgebinks: i think the menu entrys are located in /usr/share/applications/ if you someday fase a bad menuentry04:32
ForgeAuskeyword?... no you just rightclick the panel down the bottom and add an item to the panel.. in the list there should be desktop04:32
dopehey linux people04:32
balintHello, can someone tell me what is KDM?  i thought kubuntu got KDE?04:32
dopecan i have my desktop machine be a router?04:32
ForgeAusactually I think its called Desktop Access04:33
vgebalint: KDM is the login screen04:33
binksthanks must be somewhere in /home as thats all that was left from prev install and it picked up all old apps i installed04:33
dopeanybody know?04:33
waylandbillbalint: it's the display manager04:33
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vge!KDM04:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about KDM - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:33
ForgeAusKDE requires KDM like Gnome requires GDM04:33
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ForgeAusand I think WindowMaker uses WDM04:34
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balintOh thanx. cause i've downloaded a splash screen and the login wasnt like on the pictures... if i install KDM manager.. than that should resolve it?04:34
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kjdisWhile compiling, "video.h:27:28: linux/compiler.h: No such file or directory", could that mean I don't have the kernel headers installed properly?04:35
mario_can someone help me to install the ati's drivers?04:35
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AndyBemario_:  its in the package fglrx04:36
waylandbillAnadeo: wine is in the universe repo04:36
waylandbill!universe04:36
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:36
mario_but i want ti install the proprietary04:36
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AndyBemario_:  you must change the graphic card in the xorg after that.04:36
AndyBemario_:  that's it04:36
Admiral_Chicagoi've got the strangest error. I can't put anything in my home dir because of permission denial errors. err Ktorrent is giving me this error04:37
Amadeowaylandbill: thank you :)04:37
mario_in this page "http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-firegl-prer200.html" there's a i've got the installer04:37
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AndyBeSection "Device"04:37
AndyBe    Identifier     "Standardgrafikkarte"04:37
AndyBe    Driver         "nvidia"04:37
AndyBeEndSection04:37
waylandbillmario_: that's the one from ati, just in the repo, so you keep up to date without going back to ati all the time.04:37
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AndyBeI change this nv into nvidia for me. like yours into fglrx, as I can remember.04:38
waylandbill'aticonfig --initial' is usually the way to make that change.04:38
mario_i didn't understand04:39
PhillPhorrariwell people it was nice talking to you im going to go now04:39
PhillPhorraridope: good luck with the router04:39
PhillPhorraribye04:39
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matthewhow do i add nickname to person im addressing?04:40
mario_when i put this comand: sh ./ati-driver-installer-8.26.18-x86.run i have this output:04:40
mario_./ati-installer.sh: 163: Syntax error: Bad substitution04:40
mario_Removing temporary directory: fglrx-install04:40
matthewim using konvversation04:40
AndyBemario_:  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide04:40
Admiral_Chicagomatthew: start typing and hit tab04:40
Admiral_Chicagoso i typed mat and hit tab.04:40
matthewAdmiral_Chicago:  ty :)04:40
Admiral_Chicagomatthew: thats how it works04:40
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waylandbillmario_: is there a specific need to use the driver from ati's site?04:41
Bluedogcan linux read/write ntfs stably nowadays?04:41
AndyBewaylandbill:  some informations are written on ati.04:41
mario_i think this is the best or no?04:42
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waylandbillAndyBe: ?04:42
AndyBemario_:  try to build the fglrx source frim kubuntu, then your shure you got all package there.04:42
aonellhi some one speak spanish ?04:42
ForgeAusbluedog I'd be suprised if oit couldn't read stably, as for writing? not sure, but theres a few packages like ntfstools or ntfs3g or something ...04:43
AndyBemario_:  and then the ati installer, I think that works and you got all needed package.04:43
Bluedogta :)04:43
AndyBemario_:  not the fastes way but the best, you know about debian package ?04:43
AndyBemario_:  and how to build ?04:43
aonellhi,,,,,,,,,,,,,, some one speak spanish ???????????????????04:43
mario_i didn't understant very well what i have to do04:44
Jucato!es | aonell04:44
ubotuaonell: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.04:44
aonellok thank you04:44
Bluedogjust about to install a harddisk version of ubuntu instead of livecd now...04:45
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AndyBemario_:  that's the way i made with nvidia to be shure i got all.04:45
aspediasomeone can help me to migrate from kmail to MS and thunderbird?04:45
AndyBeno it's running well04:45
Bluedoghow big should the ubuntu os partition be on average? i dont have the experience t know..04:45
Bluedogwill have /home and /swap seperate04:46
mario_AndyBe:What do i have to do?open adept and install fglrx?04:46
aspediaI need the mails from kmail in MS thunderbird04:46
ForgeAusits not MS thunderbird04:46
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AndyBemario_:  one minute please...04:46
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mario_AndyBe:ok04:47
ForgeAusif you need kmail mails you probably need ... to begin with... ext2ifs  to read your partition! ... after that I don't even know if there is a way to convert/import/etc whatever format kmail  uses...04:47
waylandbillmario_: xorg-driver-fglrx + fglrx-control04:47
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mario_from adept?04:48
waylandbillsure. you can get them in adept (if restricted is enabled)04:49
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mario_waylandbill:ok and then?04:49
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waylandbillaticonfig --initial04:50
AndyBemario_:  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential04:51
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mario_ <AndyBe>:i'm downloading xorg-driver-fglrx + fglrx-control04:51
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waylandbillmario_: this page tells https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI  ... if you do it from ati's site or from source, you need to redo the driver when the kernel is re-released.04:52
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spegelapanIf I install kubuntu and config it correctly, and install a game, lets say wc3 or world of warcraft, through wine, will there be a big performance loss?04:52
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trappistspegelapan: depends on the game, but if it's well supported, no04:53
AndyBewaylandbill: that's a good instruction04:53
spegelapanand wow being the biggest mmo there is it should be pretty well supported right_04:54
mario_<waylandbill>:so i have to install xorg-driver-fglrx + fglrx-control then read the page and then use the driver from the site?04:54
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waylandbillmario_: no. the page (scroll down) tells the instructions for doing what you are doing now04:54
AndyBeyou don't need bothe.04:54
mario_ok04:55
AndyBemario_: look at this headline "Install from Ubuntu repositories (easier)"04:55
waylandbillati's site is usually newer, but I don't recommend unless you have a reason for that. you don't want to repeat everytime the kernel updates (I dont' think)04:55
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mario_andyBe:where?04:57
waylandbillmario_: that same page. It's the section heading about 2/3rd down the page.04:57
mario_ok04:58
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balintHello again. Can you tell me how can i use the bootsplash screens on kubuntu?04:59
kjdisOk, lemme try it this way, I think I need to install linux-libc-dev, for the kernel headers, but I have compiled a newer kernel and running it, so if I use apt to install linux-libc-dev will it work fine considerinf I changed my kernel?04:59
spegelapanone quick question, I am running from the live CD atm, and downloaded the 6.10 iso but when i saw the CD in windows the title said 6.06 is there anyway to check which version this really is?05:00
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mario_what is gedit in kubuntu?05:01
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AndyBekwrite05:02
mario_ok05:02
waylandbillI found the other day that the download link from kubuntu.org brought me to 6.06, but I noticed and browsed the mirror for 6.1005:02
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spegelapanwaylandbill: yeah but the file was named 6.1005:03
mario_is that abled or disbled?? DISABLED_MODULES=""05:03
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waylandbillspegelapan: ok cause mine wasn't. :-D05:04
mario_<waylandbill> :DISABLED_MODULES=""05:04
mario_is thath abled or disabled?05:04
ForgeAusis there a difference between kate and kwrite?05:05
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spegelapan:) so, is there anyway to check to really know what version this is? maybe they missed to change the title of the windows or something05:05
waylandbillForgeAus: they use the same embedded editor. Kate has added stuff like a file browser05:06
Jucatospegelapan: lsb_release -a05:06
binkssudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list spegelpan05:06
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AndyBemario_:  only do this "Change the driver for the device to 'ati' instead of fglrx to use the standard Xorg supplied driver." and startx  from the console05:06
binksand tell me what repos are listed#05:06
balintNobody uses bottsplash screens on kubuntu? :(05:06
spegelapanerr where can i find the terminal in this05:06
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mario_ <AndyBe>:so i have to write :DISABLED_MODULES="ati "??05:07
binkskmenu system05:07
AndyBestrg+ F1, go into main user, sudo -s, your password,05:07
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binks!ati05:07
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:07
AndyBethis disable automatic th ATI modules.05:07
mario_it says "Make sure fglrx is not disabled: sudo gedit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common"05:08
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mario_but i find it DISABLED_MODULES=" "05:08
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AndyBehm, normal they are not disabled.05:08
mario_ok...i don't do nothing05:08
AndyBeah you men to load the ati into the kernel.05:08
waylandbillmario_: correct05:09
AndyBesorry mario_ I missunderstod05:09
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mario_ok05:09
spegelapanbinks:  just a lot of errors, running it through the live CD atm05:09
AndyBemario_:  if the driver don't work for you after a reboot (resources of the graphiccard on ati)05:10
binkswhat part u at05:10
mario_what do i have to do if they don't work?05:10
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AndyBeuse then "pico" from the console to change what ever you want.05:10
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binksmario where did u get to05:11
AndyBe"pico" is something to write.05:11
binksat the bottom of the /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common add the line05:11
spegelapanoh, thanks Jucato, seems to be 6.10 will install it now05:12
spegelapanmissed your msg at first05:12
balintIf anyone uses bootsplash pls. come to the #bootsplash room!05:12
AndyBethanks binks.05:12
binksmario b4 you change owt in /etc/X11/xorg.conf       do this   sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.mario05:13
binksthen you can reinstall from a term05:13
Jucatobalint: ??05:13
Bluedog70gb drive, how should I seperate it into ubuntu, /boot, /home ?05:13
Bluedogi mean ubuntu, /swap, /home05:14
Bluedogswap will be 512mb..05:14
AndyBegot to go away05:14
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balintjucato: do you use bootsplash screens? cause i dont know how to change them.. :(05:14
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waylandbillaticonfig backs up the xorg.conf05:14
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Jucatobalint: Ubuntu's bootsplash engine is USplash... (not easy to customize....)05:14
fabienj'ai un probele ! le tableau de bord ne s affiche plus !!!!!05:14
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Tm_T!fr05:15
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:15
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memo_Hi05:16
balintJucato: not easy:( can you help me? and where does it store the files when booting? on the harddisk?05:18
Jucato!usplash | balint05:18
ubotubalint: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork05:18
balintubotu: thx i check it out05:19
balinthehe i didnt know his a bot :D05:20
aleksanterilol05:20
aleksanteri!botsnack05:21
ubotuYum!05:21
aleksanteri:P05:21
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Bluedoghow much space is needed for ubuntu, how should i distribute it?05:21
Bluedogi have 70gb for /home, /, and /swap05:21
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binkshw much ram you got05:22
Bluedog2gb05:22
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binksok swap 4 gb  20 gb for / then the rest as /home05:22
Bluedogok :) thanks05:22
binksthats just my opinion05:23
HymnToLife4 GB swap ???05:23
binks2x real ram05:23
HymnToLifeI know hard drives are ridiculously cheap nowadays but...05:23
Bluedogsurely that wont be all used though05:23
Bluedogso maybe 1gb swap is better05:23
Bluedog2xram is fine if u have a small amount of ram05:23
Jucatoer... yeah05:23
HymnToLife1 have 512 MB05:23
binkstis the beauti of nix its your choice05:23
HymnToLifeit's never ever used05:23
Bluedog/ and /home i wasnt so sure how to distrubite it05:24
Bluedogif 20gb is good for /, ill give the rest to /home05:24
HymnToLifefor / 10 GB is already far more than enough05:24
binksi have 3x 250 gb hdd,s so i dont care sorry flippant i no but true05:24
Bluedogreally :S05:24
cloakableI use 16GB for /, and I hardly touch it.05:24
HymnToLifeI have 2,5 GB used on mine05:25
Bluedogok :) cheers guys05:25
BluedogI'm in windows atm, going to do it all in partition magic05:25
Bluedoghope thats ok05:25
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HymnToLifeBluedog, I personnaly wouldn't recommend it05:25
cloakableI have 2GB :)05:25
Bluedogyou'd use a bootcd for it?05:25
HymnToLifeI know people who had plroblems with PM05:25
HymnToLifeyep05:25
HymnToLifethe GParted live CD works like a charm05:25
HymnToLifeyou can do it with Ubuntu's too05:26
Bluedogok, thanks05:26
Bluedogok for dual booting?05:26
binksid use live cd05:26
HymnToLifebut I don't like the idea of fiddling with a partition while it is being used05:26
binksnothing in windows is safe05:26
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HymnToLifeyou can remove the "in Windows"05:26
binksload up like cd and manual edit partitions05:26
HymnToLife_nothing_ in the Universe is 100% safe05:26
binkslolol05:27
lupine_85course it is05:27
HymnToLifelupine_85, for example ?05:27
lupine_85!teatime05:27
matthewBluedog: youc an use livecd to do your partitioning and dual boot,05:27
ubotuteatime: Gnome Panel applet to reminds you when your tea is ready. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4-2.1 (edgy), package size 396 kB, installed size 624 kB05:27
lupine_85do you want other examples?05:27
Bluedogmatthew - thx :)05:27
binksBluedog please make sure you back up any data you like on the hdd first05:28
Bluedogcourse :D05:28
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binkshey mario did you get ati working05:28
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mario_how can i knoe it?05:29
mario_the computer restar with any problem05:29
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waylandbillglxinfo should say that "direct rendering: yes"05:29
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binksfglrxinfo should say ati card05:30
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mario_it says05:31
mario_ario@Kubuntu-Edgy:~$ fglrxinfo05:32
mario_display: :0.0  screen: 005:32
mario_OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org05:32
mario_OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect05:32
mario_OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1)05:32
binksno then05:32
binksyou on edgy or dapper05:32
binkshttp://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide05:32
mario_edgy05:33
binkssorry officials but i find thismethod better05:33
binkshttp://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide05:33
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placohi! i'm trying to repartition, using qtparted, but have the problem that the particular partition is mounted. How can I unmount this?05:36
lupine_85sudo umount /mountpoint05:37
waylandbillplaco, umount (unless it's the partition you are running from)05:37
lupine_85make sure nothing is using/in the partition05:37
mario_binks i have to restart05:37
lupine_85if it's /, there's a qtparted live CD05:37
binksok05:38
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ChousukeI wonder if anyone knows where to unmount disks using the GUI :P05:38
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lupine_85why bother?05:38
lupine_85slow GUI is sloooooooooooooooow :D05:38
Chousukeyeah, but it's funny.05:38
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ChousukeLinux is always touted to be unfriendly because everything must be done from the CLI05:39
Chousukewhich is not true.05:39
lupine_85but yeah, navigate to system:/05:39
lupine_85right-click on anything and hit unmount05:39
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lupine_85IIRC05:39
freemasonhey everybody can anybody help me with Ekiga under Ubuntu? I have an account but it still can't send messages or make phone call.05:39
Chousukethere's just the problem that when newbies come to ask for help, they're given command line commands :P05:39
lupine_85they're easier to explain over IRC05:39
lupine_85far, far easier05:40
Chousukeyeah, they are05:40
Chousukebut somebody might think there's no "easy" way to do it through the GUI :/05:40
Jucato(be considerate to the one who needs help, not to yourself giving help)05:40
lupine_85lol05:41
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lupine_85didn't realise it was joke time :)05:41
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lupine_85most of the wiki has alternate GUI/CLI options05:41
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nihil_sumEvery time I reboot, the time is off by -6 hours until I resync with the time server.  I'm at GMT-6 (CST) timezone.  How can I fix this?05:43
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mario__it doesn't work05:45
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placothx lupine, got it05:45
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waylandbillmario_: you can examine the /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see if there was an error05:47
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rich654!hidden05:52
ubotuKubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles05:52
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matthewi think i need help updating my video card driver. it couldnt even run 3d screen saver right. very very poor framerate. and i have a pci-e 128mb card05:53
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matthewati-radeon^05:53
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kjdisHow do I utilize my kernel headers after compiling a new kernel?05:56
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kjdisIf a program wants to use them, how do I get it to use the new ones and not the old ones in /usr/include05:56
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balintHi. Anyone knows from where i can start the KDE Control Center?06:05
placohi! i try to repartition, using gtparted, but cannot unmount the ntfs format. How come?06:06
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fdovingbalint: kmenu -> run command 'kcontrol' run.06:06
mario__is that working?06:06
balintfdoving: ok, and how can i make a shortcut?06:06
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Jucatobalint: right-click on the K Menu -> Menu Editor06:06
balintthx06:07
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placowhy can i in linux unmount an extended partition, but not the ntfs where i keep xp?06:09
placosorry, it is unmounted, but i cant repartition it06:10
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balintJucato: i mean, how can i make a desktop shortcut to the contorl center?06:10
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Jucatobalint: right-click on the Desktop -> Create New -> Link to Application06:11
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balintJucato: oh thx06:11
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spirit_i am exiting06:13
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benehi06:25
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beneen or de?06:25
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Tm_Tbene: Qu?06:25
JucatoTm_T: what?06:25
Jucatobene: -en06:25
benek06:25
Jucato(English channel)06:25
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Tm_TJucato: Niin mit?06:25
Jucato!de06:25
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de06:25
JucatoTm_T: nan desu ka?06:25
Tm_TJucato: Ja det r det.06:25
benei have a problem when i try to install the libxine-extracodecs06:25
beneapt-get cann't find them06:25
Jucatobene: you need to enable multiverse06:25
Jucato!multiverse | bene06:25
ubotubene: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:25
Tm_TJucato: Sorry, I was tempted to also say something as cymraegg but I have forgotten most of it.06:25
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Tm_TMe neither.06:26
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beneon the adept button are no other options than quit06:26
Tm_TOnly 3 languages studied in school etc.06:26
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Jucatobene: Adept Manager? go to View menu -> Manage Repositories06:27
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kashualhi06:30
kashualneed info or help pls06:30
Tm_T!helpme06:30
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:30
benehm okay thanks06:31
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benei'm a little bit blind ... and sorry for my english :)06:31
Tm_Tkashual: just to make sure you understand: I, or no one can help you if you don't tell what exactly is your problem.06:31
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Tm_TTelepathy isn't our strongest skill.06:32
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kashuallol06:32
kashualive got installed ircd06:34
balintHow can i set thnigs to autostart? i want to set the Yakuake to autostart when linux starts...06:34
Tm_TJucato: It's only your ir connection.06:34
kashualbut missing nickserv and chanserv06:34
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Jucatobalint: leave it running when you logout. if you have KDE set to restore from previous sessions, it will be started when you login06:34
balintJucato this works when i turn off my Pc too?06:34
kashualwhat must i do 4 activate this services06:34
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Jucatobalint: yes. (logout = logout *and* shutdown) :)06:34
balintok06:34
balintwell thats not working :) it stores lots of things but not yakuake :(06:35
balintso if opera is opened, taht is stored..06:35
balintbut yakuake its not06:35
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Jucatobalint: you're sure? opera starts up automatically when you log in?06:35
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balintJucato: only if i dont turm it off before i shut down06:36
BluesKajHowdy06:36
Jucatobalint: same is true with yakuake. don't close it before you shutdown/logout06:36
Jucato(don't forget to press F12 to activate yakuake, too)06:36
balintJucato: ok ill try it06:37
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tn-'lo06:41
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tn-I've got a problem with sound output with a recent intel hda on an hp machine06:44
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acemomy wine repository's give an error when i run "sudo apt-get update"06:52
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cigahi07:02
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cigahow do I have libnspr4-dev firefox packages installed at the same time on edgy?07:04
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balintSomeone uses Kopete here?? i have a problem with the skins...07:10
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Jucatobalint: #kopete would be a good place to ask, in case no one knows here07:12
balintJucato: ok07:12
CSonicGothe wine repository is down again07:14
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RidayahHey all. I've got a problem -- most USB devices work just fine, plug'n'play.  However, my camera (HP Photosmart M425) will not be used. It's detected, but in both digikam and konqueror, it gives a message about being unable to access.  However, if I run digikam as root, it reads just fine.07:26
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RidayahThis appears to be a permissions error but I have no idea what or where.  Anyone have ideas?07:27
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Ridayahit worked fine in dapper, but stopped on upgrade to edgy.07:29
aztunnhi07:30
aztunnberyl works with the last update package of nvidia driver for edgy or I still need to use the beta version?07:31
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BluesKajRidayah, is your camers seen as a drive in sys/settings/advanced/disk&filesystems  ?07:31
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benei have installed the libxine-extracodecs package but amarok dont play mp3s ... anything else i have to do?07:33
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TheGateKeeperbene, only thing I can suggest is to make sure amarok is using the xine engine07:34
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lupine_85you'd want to make sure kdemultimedia is also installed07:35
lupine_85dunno why, but not having that broke mp3 support here07:35
beneTheGateKeeper: and how can i do that?07:35
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TheGateKeeperbene, well start amarok up, then go to configure settings --> engines07:36
beneTheGateKeeper jep xine Engine is chosen07:37
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TheGateKeeperwell that is all I had to do on dapper07:38
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benehm strange the normal sounds are working and it also plays a sound when i click ok07:39
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Toxis it possible to make mp3 preview on mouse hover in konqueror?07:40
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dwidmannkonqueror -> configure konqueror ->previews and meta data, see what there is in there for previewing07:41
benehm okay if i copy the music file to my home directory i can play it07:42
Toxtheres no any options for audio preview, for media only.i marked it but it doesn't works07:42
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Bluedoghey guys07:43
dwidmannhmm, tox, I think I *may* have done it before, I'll take a look around, though I think that might have been the sensible place to put that option ...07:43
Bluedogcan anyone recommend a nice gui irc client for kubuntu?07:43
Bluedogusing bitchx atm :)07:43
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benewhy can i copy a file from a device but cant play it directly?07:44
TheGateKeeperBluedog, well it comes with one already installed konversation, there is also xchat that you could install07:45
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Bluedogoh really, thanks :)07:45
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dwidmannBluedog, konversation does the job07:45
TheGateKeeperbene, add it to your playlist, then play it, that should work07:45
BluedogAlso noticed synaptic isnt in the `startbar` (dont know the linux term for it).. how do you add stuff here?07:45
dwidmannTox: I found it! I found it!07:46
Toxyes ?07:46
Bluedogin fact, hardly anything is, so I don't know what apps I have :D07:46
dwidmannKonqueror -> view -> preview -> click sound files07:46
beneTheGateKeeper okay thanks07:46
Bluedogforgot to mention, I'm in gnome atm07:47
Toxtrying :)07:47
Bluedogso I assume konversation isnt on here righ tnow07:47
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Toxand it still dznt work maybe i have to kill konq ?07:48
dwidmannBluedog, try and run it, if it's in the same partition it should run just fine07:48
dwidmannTox: well, I tested it and it worked for me, though, I have everything in ogg vorbis format07:48
Bluedogno KDE as this is a new install :P07:48
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Bluedogbeen chatting here for a couple of days so I thought I'd come back here to chat instead of ubuntu chan, my fault rlly :P07:48
TheGateKeeperBluedog, in this channel most of us will assume you are using kubuntu which uses the kde desktop, so what distro & dsektop are you actually using07:48
Tox:) sure ... i forgot i launch my speakers off lol07:49
BluedogVanilla ubuntu right now, sorry..07:49
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dwidmannvanilla, I thought it looked more like chocolate07:49
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Bluedogsure dont taste likeit07:49
TheGateKeeperBluedog, well does it use xchat?07:49
Toxtnx dwidman you're great helper :)07:49
DaSkreechcan I TELL amarok what CD I'm listening to?07:50
Toxit  hell works!07:50
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TheGateKeeperBluedog, look up internet07:50
TheGateKeeperlook under* internet07:50
Bluedogfound it, thanks :)07:50
Bluedoggnome xchat is the one, its not on here yet07:50
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beneamarok rox :D07:55
benei'm using kubuntu the first days now and it is realy cool07:56
sebbarhi guys, how do I set the away status on irc?07:56
dwidmannif you're using konversation, file -> set away globally, should work07:57
sebbarexcellent, tnx07:57
NeonLightningso to get ark to access rar files do i need the files from rarlabs or can i use unrar-free from univers07:57
dwidmannunrar or unrar-free should work, though I don't think unrar-free can extract all rar files07:58
NeonLightningwell i've just found that when i use unrarfree from universe ark says unrar isn't in my path07:59
dwidmannNeonLightning, there's a fix for that07:59
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dwidmannsudo ln -s /usr/bin/unrar-free unrar07:59
NeonLightningahh use symlinks08:00
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NeonLightningghaa i really gotta switch my dvd back to my primary drive since running this livecd from my 2x cdrom is wayy too slow08:00
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NeonLightningi had to switch to try and play a dvd on here but i never did get that working08:01
Toxhow can create private room in xchat ?08:01
NeonLightningjust join a unused channel08:01
NeonLightningsame as in mirc08:01
Toxi mean to send private msg08:01
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dwidmann2x cdrom drive? Man oh man, that must be downright ancient08:01
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Toxi can't see and recieve it08:02
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dwidmann/msg nickname08:02
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BTRHow come flash animations doesnt work in konqurer?08:03
marco_Finally I have my router :)08:03
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NeonLightningdwidmann: i did that and its still saying unrar isn't in my path08:05
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DaSkreechbene: Yes it does08:05
dwidmannhmm, that worked the last time I tried it NeonLightning08:05
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DaSkreechcan I TELL amarok what CD I'm listening to?08:06
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dwidmannNeon, it seems that the linking failed, lets see what I did wrong08:07
dwidmannoh yay, I thought so08:07
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dwidmannNeonLightning: sudo ln -s /usr/bin/unrar-free /usr/bin/unrar08:08
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dwidmannand you can remove the link from your home directory >.>08:08
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NeonLightninglol yea08:08
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NeonLightningnow i'm getting what you ment by it not opening all packages08:08
marco_maybe you need to activate multiverse in repositorys08:09
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dtganybody got an idea why it won't assign an ip with DHCP automatically, on a wired, on startup? I have to manually go to Network Settings and disable/activate eth0, and then it gets an ip. it worked before.08:09
dwidmannNeonLightning, It won't extract them from Rar 3.0 archives08:09
marco_backports?08:10
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DaSkreechBetter yet can I do the same in Konqueror?08:10
NeonLightningdwidmann: yea i'm trying to extract a recently created rar so probly 3.008:10
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dtganybody?08:11
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Sannedtg: Do you still have the checkmark on "Activate when computer starts" in the dialog "Configure interface" when you right click on your card entry?08:13
balintHi. How can i enable a specific TCP port in kubuntu?08:13
dtgSanne, yes I do08:14
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balintthe specific port is 689108:15
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Sannedtg: hmmm, no idea then. Usually this behaviour (disable, then enable) happens when the card get's configured, but the network isn't on at boot time (when I forget to turn on my router). But I assume that's not your problem.08:15
dtgSanne, the card starts and seems to be connected to the router, just isn't assigning an IP automatically08:16
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Sannedtg: which you also specified in the configure dialog, yes?08:16
dtgyep08:17
Sannethought so08:17
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Sannedtg: would it help you if I post my /etc/network/interfaces file?08:19
dtggo ahead08:20
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Sannedtg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1200/08:20
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binksi have 3 locked files in my home folder that i dont what are and wont delete with the error file doesnt exist08:22
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zanza#kubuntu-it08:29
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matthiashi i want to set the refresh rates of my tft in xorg conf but i dont remember wich file contains this info08:30
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tsdgeos /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:31
Sannedtg: you can try to check the syslog for dhclient to see what went on: 'cat /var/log/syslog | grep -i dhclient'. Here's my output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1204/08:31
matthiashmm but theres no entry for this...i will ask google08:32
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Sannematthias: you can see with the command: xvidtune08:33
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zanzathere isn't an italian IRC channel for help new users of kubuntu?08:33
Sanne!it08:33
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!08:33
Sannezanza: you joint it with: /j #kubuntu-it08:34
zanzaok08:34
zanzatanx08:34
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Sannezanza: you're welcome :)08:34
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Barghesthow can I tell APT-GET to use my ppp0 interface instead of lo?08:42
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spegelapanis there any equivallent for ubuntus synaptic?08:54
gsrdhow do I find where my jre is?08:54
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gsrdtrying to run tomcat, having troubles08:54
dtghey Sanne, you still here?08:56
Sannedtg: yup08:56
zanzasomebody can help me whit mi wireless desktop adapter?08:56
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vgehow do i list all listening sockets?08:59
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Sannevge: dunno exactly, but try netstat, or 'man netstat' for instructions.09:01
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paulinsterHi All,  I am having an issue with SSH. I can't get the proper return value when sending remote command09:03
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paulinsterThis look to be specific to kubuntu as under ubuntu I do not seem to have the same issue..09:03
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Tm_Tpaulinster: Kubuntu is Ubuntu.09:06
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paulinstertm_t: I know .... sorry I meant kde specific issue ...09:06
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Tm_Tpaulinster: So, how you use ssh to make KDE addect to it?09:06
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spegelapanHow do I create an shortcut? want some wine things to trigger and so on09:07
paulinstertm_t: here's the command line I run ...  ssh servername 'exit 11'; echo $?09:07
matthiasi want to use dri but i always get this msg: (EE) AIGLX: DRI module not loaded09:07
matthiasdo i have to load the module "dri" in /etc/modules?09:08
matthiasor what must i do?09:08
paulinstertm_t: I am expecting to get the return value of the exit code but obviously it's the return value of ssh instead..09:08
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dtgSanne, you there?09:12
dtgI can show you my log, if you can help09:12
Sannedtg: for a few minutes09:12
Sannedtg: sure09:12
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Tm_Tpaulinster: Well, there's logical error, you don't send that echo to server?09:13
dtghttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1212/09:13
constantine-xvidoes anyone know of a solid server distro with decent web admin tools?09:13
Tm_Tpaulinster: Atleast I understand that so that you should include that echo call inside '-signs.09:13
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paulinstertm_t: I know and don't want to be send to the server... I just want to get the return value from ssh ... ssh should be returning the last command return value ... however for strange reason I coulnd't get the proper return value from ssh under kubuntu, but I do get it under ubuntu ...09:15
Tm_TD'oh, that shouldn't matter.09:15
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Tm_TOh well, no idea.09:15
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Sannedtg: this looks suspicious: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia (line 12)09:16
paulinsterssh servername 'exit 11'09:16
paulinsterecho $?09:16
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Sannedtg: sorry!!!09:16
Sannedtg: I meant: dhclient: send_packet: Network is unreachable09:16
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BTRHi, i just installed wine, how do i use it?09:17
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dtgyou need to right-click the program to run, and click open-with wine or something along there09:18
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spegelapanCan i browse my windows partition and copy some files before i delete it? :/09:19
BTRTy:)09:19
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dtgcopy files to Linux?09:19
Sannedtg: sorry, gotta run now, good luck with your problem. You may wayt to try to search in ubuntuforums, maybe somebody else also had this problem.09:19
dtgor to Windows?09:19
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dtg!ntfs09:20
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse09:20
spegelapandtg to linux, from windows09:20
spegelapanthanks for the link09:21
paulinsterSo no one could help me to figure out why ssh isn't returning the proper return value code09:21
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BTRdtg: So now i have installed a win32 program, how do i then execute it? i have no idea of where to look for it:(09:23
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Trickserhi09:24
Trickserhow can i deactivate pppoe on boot?09:24
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IppatsuBTR: open a console and type wine pathtoprogram09:26
Ippatsuor right click on the file to execute and choose "open with...", type "wine" and press enter09:26
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BTRIppatsu: But i cant remember the path or the name of the executable:( (when its installed)09:28
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dtglppatsu, I told him that already :)09:28
BTRisnt there any gui for  wine09:28
dtgI think there is09:28
BluedogHey guys, just enabled my side buttons on my mouse.. But how do I make pressing the centre button quickly scroll up / down?09:28
dtgfor config09:28
BluedogHolding it in XP lets you scroll up and down rapidly09:29
Trickserhey guys, anyone know how can one deactivate pppoe on boot?09:30
Ippatsuthere are winecfg and winetools, but they are not used to start a program09:30
BTRIs there any way for me to explore the "c:/" wine created?09:31
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magnus_newbie question: I have problem sharing folders between XP and Kubuntu any good info source how to do and normal mistakes ...09:32
gekk1BTR: i think it's somewhere under ~/.wine/09:32
Ippatsu~/.wine/drive_c09:32
BTRthanks alot:)09:32
spegelapandtg may i PM you about that ntfs, dont really understand it09:32
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Vilhelm1hi09:34
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dtgspegelapan, ok09:34
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spegelapanneed to register09:35
zorglu_!register09:35
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration09:35
Vilhelm1what's the application I can change the appearance of KDE applications in XFCE? I don't have Kubuntu installed but I use amarok and konqueror though because they rule ok09:35
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balintAnyone got a clue on Genius webcam Driver for linux? on the site, driver is only for windows, and tha cam with general linux driver is very very dark :(:(09:44
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katabaticmaybe you can adjust brightness somewhere, then?09:45
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Vilhelm1I know it isn't possible to change theme of Qt-based applications with the same application I change the appearance of GTK-based ones.. what's the application meant for the Qt-based ones?09:53
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aseigoVilhelm1: for qt only, there is qtconfig ... kde provides the contro center from which you can change themes09:54
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Rob-Westwhats wrong with it09:56
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fxrhi.. i notice ubuntu is heating up my processor more than windows & causing crashing, does anoyone know if there is any reasons for this?09:56
DaSkreechI can't send a message to random contacts09:57
DaSkreechThat's so stupid09:57
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hassan2ayou are09:57
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matthiasi'm trying to configure xserver to use dri09:58
matthiasare there any problems with dri and ubuntu edgy09:58
matthias?09:58
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klerfaytmatthias: what graphics card?10:03
Vilhelm1aseigo: lots of thanks for the answer :)10:03
aseigoVilhelm1: np10:04
Vilhelm1one more question - why do I get text like this when I open Qt-based application in terminal:10:04
Vilhelm1X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 172 Major opcode:  147 Minor opcode:  3 Resource id:  0x010:04
Vilhelm1Failed to open device10:04
Vilhelm1X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 172 Major opcode:  147 Minor opcode:  3 Resource id:  0x010:05
Vilhelm1Failed to open device10:05
Vilhelm1ups I'm sorry for that!10:05
matthiasklerfayt: Ati X80010:05
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Vilhelm1what does that BadDevice thing mean and what is meant with that uninitialized input device 172?10:06
klerfaytmatthias: have you tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?10:07
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matthiasno mom10:08
klerfayt!ati10:08
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:08
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klerfaytmom?10:08
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slop|topi need some help : my installation has been working fine for months...today i got a new desk, so i disconnected everything and reconnected it...and now ubuntu won't boot - it hangs at the loading bar.  if i hit ctrl-alt-del, it takes me to a crazy blue screen that says that X couldn't start because of an internal problem, and i can eventually make my way to prompt (logged in as root) by hitting ctrl-alt-del ... at prompt, if i do sudo apt-get install --rei10:11
zanzathere is someone that help me?I can't configure my wireless desktop adapter...10:11
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matthiasklerfayt: i have 2 video cards one pci and one agp but dpkg detects only the pci10:13
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matthiasklerfayt: i made the settings manually i'll try to use dri now10:16
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rohanwhat program does kubuntu use to configure laptop keys ?10:19
rohanthe extra keys, that is10:19
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caris_mereI need a little help with a java installation problem10:35
binksi have a problem with 3 files showing in my /home but if i sudo rm -r them i get file doesnt exist10:36
binksany ideas plaese10:36
binkscaris what up with java10:36
binks!java10:37
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository10:37
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caris_merebinks: I started to install it with adept, but when it asked for license agreement, I wasn't able to confirm, so I interrupted the process, and that's where the problem starts10:38
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binksok if you show advanced on adept it asks for confirm use tab to highlight ok10:38
caris_merebinks: when I try to install now, it says E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.10:39
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binksso did you run that in a terminal10:39
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caris_merefirst time no, second time yes10:39
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binksalso if your new to nix cheat and use automatix10:40
caris_mereI've already had problems with automatix10:40
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binksdid u install for edgy10:41
caris_meredapper10:41
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BluedogHey guys10:41
binksi just used it today was fine for me but that was a edgy install10:41
Bluedogthe auto installer set my swap to 3gb.. didnt ask10:41
Bluedoghow can I shrink that and increase / ?10:42
Bluedog(I have 2gb ram)10:42
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binksshow off lol10:42
binkscaris_mere you got me someone a bit more nix admin needs to help10:42
binkstry sudo apt-get remove10:43
caris_merebink: thanks, I will try10:43
caris_merebinks: it says I should first try to reinstall10:44
Bluedoganyone? :D10:45
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caris_merebinks: do you know how to give the command for reinstalling?10:46
binks!apt-get10:46
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)10:46
caris_merebinks: that's not what I wanted ...  :-) ... I was trying to be lazy10:47
binkstruth is i dont no so im reading lol10:47
caris_merebinks: ah ha10:47
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fxrhow do i install python...10:48
fxrwhic option do i select in my package manager..10:48
fxri just want a minimal install10:48
binksapt-get -f install -- the same as Edit->Fix Broken Packages and Apply in synaptic. Do this if you get complaints about packages with unmet dependences.10:48
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binksfxr is python not installed10:49
binkstype python at a promt10:49
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fxrits says its install10:49
fxrPython 2.4.4c1 (#2, Oct 11 2006, 21:51:02)10:49
fxr[GCC 4.1.2 20060928 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.1.1-13ubuntu5)]  on linux210:49
caris_merebinks: thanks, that worked10:50
fxrso its installed already then binks?10:50
binksnice caris we learn today10:50
binksyes fxr10:50
fxrcool cheers..10:50
binkswhat you doin in python10:50
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fxrm tyring to get a plugin working in amarok..10:51
fxror a sxcript even10:51
lombrahi10:52
lombragood night10:52
fxrif i was install this tkinker thing.. would i have to reset anything to get python to notice it?10:52
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binksno10:54
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caris_meredoes somebody know a good site that gives steps for installing java plugin in firefox?10:54
Linux_Galore!java10:55
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository10:55
caris_mereI've been there.  I have Java, but I need the plugin to be in firefox10:55
Linux_Galorecaris_mere: did you configure the default10:56
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caris_mereLInux_Galore: what do you mean?10:56
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Linux_Galoreaaah you didnt read the howto then10:57
BluedogCan anyone tell me how to resize my boot partition in linux? Im going to shrink it, and split off /home onto its own.10:57
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Linux_Galorecaris_mere:  sudo update-alternatives --config java10:57
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Linux_Galorecaris_mere: right now Firefox cant access java because the system default version hasnt been set10:58
elcucocan anyone find the link for the restricted formats deb?10:58
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Linux_Galorecaris_mere: one the default version of java is setup firefox will see it in your path10:59
Linux_Galoreonce*10:59
caris_mereLinux_Galore: thanks10:59
fribuntuHi all11:00
avalon_ Is there a way to tell my linksys router to only a specific IP address access to the internet ONLY? Like just port 80?11:01
binkswell i found 2 new apps today swiftfox and superkaramba best do some pyqt now huh boring night all11:01
fribuntuavalon_: Depends on the firmware, I suppose.11:01
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fribuntuavalon_: And it is not exactly a Kubuntu-question, is it?11:01
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Bluedoganyone?11:02
avalon_It relates to it? I was able to do it until I upgraded to Ubuntu because the other machines connected through my computer.11:02
BluedogNeed a bootcd to resize my boot partition, to split off /home11:02
fribuntuavalon_: So you used your computer as a router?11:02
avalon_Kind of, but I don't want that any more.11:03
fribuntuavalon_: So you want a router to be used as a router? Ok. I still don't see the kubuntu connection.11:03
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fribuntuavalon_: do you have a manual for that linksys router?11:04
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fribuntuavalon_: You might want to check in that manual if it does also have some sort of firewall function and how to set that up.11:04
avalon_Yup.. but it's an explanation as to how to plug it up.11:04
fribuntuavalon_: I am sure you can get a more thorough documentation if you point your browser to the linksys pages.11:05
Linux_GaloreBluesKaj: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/larry/resize/resizing.htm11:05
barjoh10hey anyone11:05
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barjoh10hello11:05
Linux_Galoregrr11:05
fribuntuavalon_: I do not know out of my head if it can be done and how to do it. My guess is you log into the GUI, set up a firewall to block all outgoing traffic except on port 80 and that's that.11:06
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fribuntuoh brilliant, he left :)11:06
barjoh10hey i am not a treat11:06
barjoh10yes he left11:06
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barjoh10adaptr how r u11:07
adaptrI'm good, thanks11:07
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barjoh10hey ur from?11:08
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barjoh10hi zanza11:08
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barjoh10hello11:09
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Linux_Galorebarjoh10: please use #kubuntu-offtopic11:11
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YumaHi there.11:12
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YumaI'm having the weirdest issue I've ever heard of.11:13
Linux_GaloreYuma: ask away11:13
YumaI've modified a file in my computer (Kubuntu 6.10) and here its ok.11:13
Linux_GaloreYuma: : what type of file11:14
YumaBut the I use scp to copy it to my server (Linux From Scratch 5.10) and there it's like if I've never modified it.11:14
YumaIt's just a plain text.11:14
YumaIt's meant to be a php file.11:14
itschinIs there anyway I can force  a source for downloading using apt-get?11:14
barjoh10yuma yuma boooowhooooooo11:14
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YumaIf I do a cat from the server, I get the old file.11:15
Linux_GaloreYuma: you can also copy it across with  konqueror   fish://ip_of_machine   just drag and drop it11:15
itschinTrying to apt-get install something from gb.archive.ubuntu.com and the speeds are crawling.11:15
Linux_GaloreYuma: you need to rename it11:16
YumaIf I edit it using vim it get wrong the change of line, but the modifications are there.11:16
YumaI deleted the file from the server and uploaded again.11:16
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barjoh10hey jerry go to#kubuntu-offtopic11:16
barjoh10yuma u need to rename it11:17
YumaBut, why?11:17
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Linux_GaloreYuma:    so your using   scp  filename  user@192.168.0.3:"~/"   ?11:17
barjoh10but why11:17
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barjoh10yuma so ur using it11:18
YumaLinux_Galore: yep, scp server_name:/home/user/public_html/blah.php11:18
Linux_GaloreYuma: this is on the remote host not the machine your copying too11:18
Linux_GaloreYuma: file first not server11:18
Atlan_Yuma: the destination is missing11:18
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barjoh10yeah first11:18
YumaLinux_Galore: of course, I forgot, but I'm pretty sure I'm doing the scp fine.11:19
barjoh10yeah fine ur doing it11:19
Yumascp blah.php server:/home/user/public_html/blah.php11:19
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Yumathe user is the same in both computers, so there's no need to name it before the server.11:19
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barjoh10in both ooooooooh11:20
YumaI did a `ls` to make sure I copied it fine.11:20
barjoh10oooh u copied yuma11:20
Linux_GaloreYuma: so your on the remote host that has the file and your copying to another machine (that should have sshd running) you should use the syntax  scp  /path/to/file   user@remote_ip:"/path/to/directory/"    not the " quotes "11:20
Linux_Galorenote*11:20
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YumaLinux_Galore: I'm _sure_ I did that good.11:21
YumaLinux_Galore: Thanks.11:21
YumaThe problem is once its copied.11:21
barjoh10yeah thanks11:21
Linux_GaloreYuma: it wont gazump a file that already exists, sometimes you have to ssh  into the machine to trigger a signature11:22
Linux_GaloreYuma: I always ssh in first to trigger it off11:22
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YumaLinux_Galore: I'm already sshded to the server.11:23
barjoh10yeah ssshhh11:23
YumaI'm checking what I'm doing from the ssh connection.11:23
Linux_GaloreYuma: you dont run scp within a ssh session though11:23
barjoh10conection11:23
_eMaX_anyone here has successfully printed from Java on ubuntu?11:23
barjoh10ssh11:23
Linux_GaloreYuma: because ti all becomes "backwards"11:23
barjoh10ssh11:23
barjoh10yeah me eMax11:24
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YumaLinux_Galore: So I should end the ssh session before I copy the file?11:24
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Linux_GaloreYuma: no just open a new tab11:24
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Linux_GaloreYuma: or terminal session11:24
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YumaLinux_Galore: I did that.11:25
Linux_GaloreYuma: dont ssh in just leave the old one running11:25
barjoh10terminal11:25
binksbarjoh10 you got some attension grow up11:25
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YumaLinux_Galore: I'm having two sessions. One is looking in the server with ssh and the other is doing the scp.11:25
Linux_GaloreYuma: yep11:25
BluE|hey guys, i need a quick bit of help, trying to shrink my swap with gparted, but I cant get rid of the empty space sat in the middle of the drive...11:25
BluE|is there ANY way to get it out of there?11:25
barjoh10shet up i dont want ur @%$%$^ attention11:25
YumaLinux_Galore: In the ssh I did delete the blah.php file and in the other session I did the scp.11:26
Linux_GaloreYuma: yep thats fine11:26
TheDebuggerssh ftw! :)11:26
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YumaLinux_Galore: In the ssh session I did a `cat` and a `vim` on the blah.php and then it happened what I described.11:26
barjoh10swsh11:26
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BluE|anyone? kinda in the middle of the part session and dont wanna break it :D11:27
Linux_GaloreYuma: delete the file or "mv"  (move/rename) the file on the remote host, scp wont over write it11:27
barjoh10hey bleu whatever what u want11:27
Yuma\me thinks someone is "poca faena". (unbusy)11:27
YumaOops, the slash... Hahaha.11:28
barjoh10hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah big joke11:28
YumaLinux_Galore: I did that already.11:28
fdovingbarjoh10: please behave.11:28
Linux_GaloreYuma: then copy the file across with scp, if your getting the wrong file it means your copying the wrong file, scp doesnt magically create old files11:29
barjoh10one sincere question without joking fdoving are u a girl serious11:29
Linux_GaloreYuma: computers are "dumb" and "literal"  they dont do random things unless there is a mistake in the process11:30
YumaLinux_Galore: That is what I do, believe me, and that's why I said this is the weirdest thing I've ever seen.11:30
fdovingbarjoh10: no, i'm not a girl.11:30
barjoh10oh i jst wanted to know11:31
barjoh10 bye everyone11:31
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YumaLinux_Galore: I'll take extra care this time, but I'm sure I'm having this again.11:31
fdovingbye barjoh10.11:31
BluE|ta ta :P11:31
Linux_GaloreYuma: scp is very very old, I use it every day at work with "zero problems"11:32
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katabaticSOMEBODY please help me figure out why it's not connecting to the router with DHCP automatically on boot, on wired network. I can tell it to connect manually, and it connects, but not automatically at boot! I installed some packages, and it stopped working, can't figure out what.11:32
YumaLinux_Galore: I'm using it also for a long time, the server is not new, that's why I don't understand why is this happening.11:32
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YumaLinux_Galore: and `cat` is the same old than `scp` (if not even more).11:32
Linux_GaloreYuma: I susepct your copying the wrong file across some how, if scp is copying an old file then "you are telling it to copy and old file"11:33
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Linux_Galorean*11:33
TheGateKeeperhow do I get konversation to automatically connect up on startup?11:33
Linux_GaloreYuma: be carefull with vim it creates "two versions" of a file11:34
YumaLinux_Galore: But I don't even know how scp get the wrong file with `scp blah.php ...` and `vim blah.php` does the trick.11:34
Linux_GaloreYuma: you may be copying the cache over not the one you want11:34
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Linux_GaloreYuma: open the file in vim  press esc  :wq   just to make sure it written to11:35
YumaLinux_Galore: But one is backup only, and you open the original file always, and if it finds some differences between both then ask you what to do.11:35
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Linux_GaloreYuma: actually vim reads the cache not the file11:35
Linux_GaloreYuma: that why I always "cat filename"  just to make sure11:35
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YumaLinux_Galore: I'll check, but kate, vim, and quanta shows me the right file.11:36
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Linux_GaloreYuma: kate also reads the cache not sure about quanta11:37
Bizzyhey, i installed apache2, mod_php5 and php5 on kubuntu, can someone help me configure it properly11:37
YumaLinux_Galore: `cat` showed the old file.11:37
Linux_GaloreYuma: ha11:37
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YumaLinux_Galore: I can't believe it.11:37
YumaLinux_Galore: This has never happened to me.11:38
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bonbonthejonBizzy: I usually follow this tutorial, http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.0611:38
floanyone know how can i tell tvtime to remember the 16:10 mate that i'vd aplied when it restarts?11:38
YumaLinux_Galore: But I realized I have Quanta opened, that could be a problem.11:38
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Linux_GaloreYuma: open vim and press  esc :wq11:38
Linux_Galoreopent he file "in vim" sorry11:39
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intelikeyecho bob > test ;echo joe > test~ ;vim test11:39
intelikeyor kate test11:39
YumaLinux_Galore: I did that and `cat` reports the old file.11:39
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shadowhywindhay all i am backing an isssue with wine, when ever i open something with wine, my Xserver restarts11:39
YumaLinux_Galore: This is more than the cache issue.11:39
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Linux_Galoreintelikey: then it is the old file11:39
Linux_GaloreYuma: your saving the changed one to a different place11:40
tommy1987anybody live in switzerland here?11:40
Linux_Galoreintelikey: ignore that11:40
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Linux_Galoreintelikey: sometimes if the txt file becomes "broken" for some weird reason some apps start reading the bloody cache11:41
BluE|ahh I need help. Gparted just failed with a segfault after starting partitioning.11:41
BluE|What should I do?11:41
YumaLinux_Galore: From the vim editor showing the new version: :w blah2.php. Then exit :q. And goes to a terminal and do `cat blah2.php`and shows the old file.11:41
BluE|my swap now shows as unknown11:41
YumaThis is really weird...11:41
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tommy1987BluEJ maybe you should restart and try gparted again11:42
Linux_Galoreintelikey: very rare, does happen11:42
BluE|i think it may have broken something tho11:42
BluE|:/11:42
tommy1987hmm11:42
BluE|hmm11:42
BluE|formatted the 'unknown' as swap, seems to be ok..11:42
bonbonthejonBizzy: did you see my link above?11:42
tommy1987well its highly unlikely any hardware is damaged :-/11:42
BluE|fingers crossed :O11:42
BluE|yeah its my data im worried for :O11:42
tommy1987its damn near impossible11:42
Linux_GaloreYuma:   save the file to a new name and make sure were you saved it is correct11:43
tommy1987oh right then I would be very concerned!11:43
BluE|haha :D11:43
Linux_GaloreYuma: the changed file that is11:43
YumaLinux_Galore: I'll write the commands I do.11:43
BluE|luckily it was just messing with an empty swap11:43
Linux_GaloreYuma: sop basically scp copied the old file over lol, not the changed one11:44
tommy1987oh right then you should be fine, obviously you are on another machine now then?11:44
BluE|livecd :)11:44
Linux_GaloreYuma: as i said, computers are "dumb"11:44
psynthNo updates about the issue with 64bit browser and flash, a few moths ago it was a no go !?11:44
YumaLinux_Galore: I know computers are "dumb" but this one is smart or I'm the dumb...11:44
jordo23_Jucato: I FINALLY got flash 9 working with konq...11:45
Linux_GaloreYuma: once you get used to that you will become a good admin11:45
tommy1987BluEJokay, so explain exactly what happened then11:45
psynth64 bit and flash, whats the rumor or deal today ?11:45
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YumaLinux_Galore: Ok, then I'll send you the file.11:46
BluE|i set up gparted to resize my swap, and give the space to another partition11:46
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BluE|but 1s in it segfaulted...11:46
BluE|panicked, but it may be ok now :)11:46
Linux_GaloreYuma: all I will see is what "cat"  shows you11:46
Bizzybonbonthejon: thanks for the link :)11:46
intelikeyBluE| did you sudo swapoff -a  first ?11:46
bonbonthejonBizzy: cool, hope it helps11:47
BluE|am I right to think that empty space between an ntfs and an ext3 cant go onto the ext3 if the ext3 is after?11:47
BluE|intelikey: im on a livecd, its all unmounted11:47
YumaLinux_Galore: How do you edit a file if you don't trust vim, kate, quanta? You do some echo "long source code" > code.php?11:47
intelikeyBluE| are you sure ?11:47
BluE|yeah11:47
BluE|i ran gparted in the real install, and it was all locked11:48
Linux_GaloreYuma: I usually just cat > newfile.txt11:48
YumaLinux_Galore: You don't trust `cp`?11:48
Linux_GaloreYuma: then delete the old one11:48
Linux_GaloreYuma: cat is very literal11:48
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Linux_GaloreYuma: you can use cp11:48
Linux_GaloreYuma: up to you11:49
Linux_Galorecat oldfile,txt > newfile.txt11:49
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Linux_Galorecp oldfile,txt  newfile.txt,  same crap11:49
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frojndhello!11:50
intelikeyBluE| well.    i would rather than resizing a swap partition   delete it and resize the partition you want to grow then make a new swap in the empty    (actually if not a lappy that you want to hybernate, i wouldn't even have a swap partition tho)11:50
frojndI added second user11:50
fxrhow do set up to monitor my cpu temps.. ?11:50
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YumaLinux_Galore: I tried the cp way and nothing happened, I'll use the cat way, but I'm not expecting new results.11:50
Linux_GaloreYuma: your doing something wrong or you not in the path of the correct file11:50
frojndHow can I connect on local computer (windows) if I know it's username and password and I added this user to my linux mascine11:51
intelikeyfxr look into lmsensors11:51
bonbonthejonfxr: i use ksensors11:51
YumaLinux_Galore: I'll swear you I'm in the right place!11:51
YumaLinux_Galore: Look this last results.11:51
Linux_GaloreYuma:  pwd11:51
YumaLinux_Galore: If I do a `cat blah.php` I see the old thing in the terminal.11:51
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intelikeylm-sensors - utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors11:52
YumaLinux_Galore: If I do a `cat blah.php > blah2.php; cat blah2.php` I see the new version.11:52
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YumaLinux_Galore: And please, trust me when I tell you I'm in the same directory.11:52
intelikeyksensors - lm-sensors frontend for KDE11:52
Linux_GaloreYuma: wierd,  scp the new file over now11:52
YumaLinux_Galore: I did the two commands one after the other, nothing between.11:52
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bonbonthejonintelikey: lm-sensors doesn't work on my laptop, but ksensors was still able to display the temp11:53
YumaLinux_Galore: I send you a private message, please download the file and try the `cat` and `kate` yourself.11:53
intelikeyodd seeing that ksensors - lm-sensors frontend for KDE11:53
fxri tried lmsensor, didnt work.. ll have a nose at ksensors then thanks ppl11:53
bonbonthejonintelikey: ksensors was still able to look in /proc or whereever to find the temp11:54
Linux_GaloreYuma: yeah11:54
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intelikeybonbonthejon if the temp is in /proc you don't need an app....   just grep the info at any time11:54
bonbonthejonintelikey: yeah, but its nice to see it in the task bar11:55
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intelikeythis old hardware doesn't have sensors  so i can't test...11:55
ted_hi everyone :) my computer wants to reach a file called "wpa_supplicant.conf". but it doesnt exist. what to do?11:55
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intelikey!wifi11:57
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs11:57
ted_thx :D11:57
dave_hiya ppl - is there any probs with installing the KDE front end over the GNOME one in UBUNTU ? or should i just download the KUBUNTU.iso to save hassle ?11:58
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dave_bare in mind i'm a noob lol11:58
intelikeydave_ shouldn't cause any problems   the  kde  package is a meta package that will install all the kde apps.11:59
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Bluedogseems fine :) thank god11:59
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intelikeynote  i said kde not kubuntu     kubuntu apps are not all kde related    and not all kde apps are in the kubuntu defaults12:00
dave_cheers intelikey - baring in mind that I am a noob is there any obvious improvmenets over GNOME ?12:00
frojndit says I have installed lm-sensors12:01
frojndhow do I use them?12:01
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intelikeydave_ baring in mind that with software there is no "best" it's all personal openion,  i can't answer that.   try them all keep what you like.12:01
dave_cheers :D12:01
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ted_!wlan12:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wlan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:02
dave_!vmware12:02
ubotuvmware is VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware12:02
_eMaX_<barjoh10> yeah me eMax12:02
ted_!wep12:02
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:03
_eMaX_barjoh10 are you still there?12:03
intelikeyfrojnd   " dpkg -L lm-sensors | grep bin/  "      should list all the executables that the package installed.  and man "command"  should explain what they do.12:03
frojndNo manual entry for lm-sensors12:03
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intelikeyso man the individule commands12:04
intelikeyle/al12:04
_eMaX_anyone else here been able to print from java in ubuntu?12:04
intelikeyi before e except after five beers or when sounded like....12:04
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MrLinuxhello12:05
MrLinuxI need some help12:06
MrLinuxis some one on-line ?12:06
YumaMrLinux: Ask, someone will read it, :)12:07
MrLinuxhelooo12:07
MrLinuxok12:07
apolMrLinux: you shold make the question and if someone knows it, he will answer12:07
MrLinuxI have istalled now Kubuntu12:07
NeonLightningto mount a drive so my main user can acess it would be mount -uid 500 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 right?12:07
intelikeyYuma you mess everything up.12:07
frojndintelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1235/12:07
MrLinuxand how do I open the port 22 ??12:07
MrLinuxPLease I need Help12:08
Yumaintelikey: I want to know how to fix it... hehe.12:08
YumaMrLinux: You should have it open.12:08
intelikeyMrLinux install ssh12:08
MrLinuxwhat ?12:08
YumaMrLinux: You probably want to install the ssh daemon.12:08
intelikeyinstall ssh12:08
MrLinuxhow ?12:08
intelikeyit's a package12:08
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MrLinuxyes I know that12:08
intelikeyuse the package manager12:08
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MrLinuxKubuntu is not istaled now12:09
intelikeyfrojnd modprobe the i2c module ?12:09
MrLinuxI run it from the LIVE CD12:09
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MrLinuxand I wannt to see I'f I can open the 22 port12:09
MrLinuxcan I do that if is not realy istaled ?12:10
frojndintelikey: I have no idea what this is12:10
intelikeyopen it for what ?12:10
intelikeyMrLinux yes  install ssh12:10
MrLinuxwhere to go ?12:10
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MrLinuxAdd/Remove programs ?12:11
YumaMrLinux: You have it already open. But there's nothing to listen in that port, so it's "like" it's closed.12:11
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katabaticSOMEBODY please help me figure out why it's not connecting to the router with DHCP automatically on boot, on wired network. I can tell it to connect manually, and it connects, but not automatically at boot! I installed some packages, and it stopped working, can't figure out what.12:11
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intelikeyfrojnd sudo modprobe i2c-<yourchipset>      modprobe -l | grep '/i2c-'   for a list12:11
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MrLinuxYuma12:12
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MrLinuxso how do I install it ?12:12
MrLinuxfrom Add/Remove Programs ?12:12
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intelikeyMrLinux yes add remove programs      adept    synaptic    apt-get     aptitude     take your pick12:13
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NeonLightningadept12:13
YumaMrLinux: The easy way is to open the K menu and System, and then Adept.12:13
NeonLightningoh didn't know aptitude was on the live cd12:13
YumaMrLinux: There you search for ssh.12:13
YumaMrLinux: Have you opened the Adept yet?12:13
frojndintelikey: I do sudo modprobe i2c-<yourchipset>      modprobe -l | grep '/i2c-'   for a list   ->FATAL: Can't have multiple wildcards12:13
animimotushi12:13
MrLinuxis no Adept man12:14
frojndwithout "for a list"12:14
MrLinuxin K menu System Settings12:14
YumaMrLinux: Then open a terminal.12:14
animimotusin amaroK, where can I desactive the caps transformation for title ?12:14
YumaMrLinux: And write this without the quotes, "apt-get install ssh".12:14

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