[12:14] <dwidmann> farkr, given a moment I could make you a command to do it
[12:15] <farkr> thanks
[12:15] <Linux_Galore> dwidmann: just remove and reinstall the kde meta package
[12:15] <dwidmann> ! paste | dwidmann
[12:15] <ubotu> dwidmann: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[12:17] <dwidmann> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1116/ | farkr
[12:17] <Linux_Galore> farkr: did you run  sudo  dpkg --configure -a
[12:18] <sleepy495> whats the difference between sudo nvidia-xconfig and sudo nvidia-xconfig --no-composite ?
[12:18] <Linux_Galore> sleepy495: adds 3 lines to the end of the xorg.conf file
[12:19] <Linux_Galore> sleepy495: for the later command
[12:19] <dwidmann> sleepy495, --no-composite disables the X composite extension
[12:19] <sleepy495> should I use --no-composite or not
[12:19] <dwidmann> then again sleepy495, it's off by default, so there is no difference
[12:19] <sleepy495> some sites for installing say to do it, some say not
[12:19] <Linux_Galore> sleepy495: the extra lines tell it not to enable composite
[12:20] <sleepy495> is that good or bad?
[12:20] <dwidmann> I suppose the only time it would make a difference would be if you had composite enabled before you ran the command to reconfigure x
[12:20] <genii> composite = rca video out or composite = combination driver?
[12:20] <Linux_Galore> sleepy495: depends on the cards, if your using the legacy driver because you have a 5200 or older card its wise to not enable composite
[12:21] <sleepy495> thanks all
[12:22] <genii> Timas Is the router responding in any manner at all? Eg: can you ping it etc
[12:22] <Minataku> Heya, genii
[12:22] <Linux_Galore> you can use the latest 8*** series nvidia driver with a gf4 or better but because shader support its a bit so so the fps is rubbish
[12:22] <Linux_Galore> is*
[12:22] <Linux_Galore> with the gf4 og 51200 cards
[12:22] <Linux_Galore> or*
[12:23] <Linux_Galore> with the gf4 or 5200 cards
[12:23] <Linux_Galore> bugger cant type
[12:23] <Linux_Galore> sleepy495: what card do you have
[12:23] <sleepy495> fx 5900
[12:24] <Timas> genii: nope, so far no response besides windows detecting that the line is occupied
[12:24] <Linux_Galore> sleepy495: yeah use the 8*** driver and dont disable composite, it should be fine
[12:24] <StingRay> Wooooow, stdin I tested Xrealvnc, x11vnc, rdp v5, Remoteadmin 2.2, tightvnc, realvnc, Freenx and I am really amazed with x11vnc's compression
[12:24] <jordo23> How does one get rid of the main KDE panel at the bottom of the screen?  I don't see  the option when I right click...
[12:25] <stdin> StingRay: it's quite good, yeah :)
[12:25] <Timas> jordo23: by default there's a hide button at the side somewhere
[12:25] <StingRay> It hardly goes over 5-6 kb with 1024x768 16bit, stdin
[12:25] <stdin> not bad :)
[12:25] <jordo23> Timas:  Can I delete it completely?
[12:26] <Timas> in kde you kinda need the panel I'd think..
[12:26] <Linux_Galore> jordo23: killall -9 kicker
[12:26] <StingRay> superb...I was very nervous about NX's resume problems...
[12:26] <stdin> jordo23: it's built in to KDE, but StingRay knows how to stop it from showing :P
[12:26] <jordo23> stdin: How do I get it back if I need to?
[12:26] <dwidmann> run the command kicker from a shell or from alt+f2
[12:27] <stdin> StingRay: do you remember that link you got to hide kicker ?
[12:27] <StingRay> Xrealvnc is miserable...stdin...
[12:27] <Linux_Galore> yeah, there is a command to tell kicker not to start you have to add it to the login process
[12:27] <StingRay> for you always ;), stdin
[12:27] <genii> Minataku Hey :)
[12:27] <StingRay> 1 mom, stdin
[12:27] <stdin> :)
[12:28] <StingRay> http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Secret+Config+Settings#_Getting_Rid_of_The_Panel , stdin
[12:28] <genii> Timas Because if it is still reachable somehow by perhaps ftp or telnet or so it could be possible to tftp some firmware to it
[12:28] <stdin> StingRay: cool :)
[12:28] <StingRay> some restrictions...? ;), stdin
[12:28] <Tamacracka> Guys... I'd like to know if there's any diagnostic tests I can take on my PC... to see if there's any problems with it.
[12:29] <Tamacracka> Is there any utilities/tools I can use to check and repair anything?
[12:29] <Timas> genii I just connected to it with wireless
[12:30] <Timas> and I"m in the admin console
[12:30] <genii> Timas It is best not to try firmware updates over wireless.
[12:31] <Timas> genii the main question has just become why its having trouble with the wired connection and not the wireless one
[12:31] <stdin> StingRay: I want a X session that's going to have 1 full screen window, but I want it in KDE, (otherwise it spurts out errors) and kicker just gets in the way. I was just reminded that I didn't bookmark that link when jordo23 asked how to hide kicker :P
[12:32] <Bluedog> hey guys
[12:32] <Bluedog> back again :)
[12:32] <karmikaze> mrrr
[12:33] <Bluedog> Tried using envy, however I get the same issue..
[12:33] <StingRay> stdin, so you need only space...I thought you have a security scenario.
[12:33] <Bluedog> x still fails to start with nvidia specified in xorg.conf, says kernel not found
[12:33] <zeemu> hi i'm new to  kubuntu, i havn't used linux for about 2 years (i ran debian for years and years etc) .. was wondering if there's anything like 'apt-get' on kubuntu
[12:33] <Bluedog> I ran apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common
[12:33] <Bluedog> still no joy
[12:33] <stdin> StingRay: nah, my users are too dumb to do any harm :P
[12:33] <karmikaze> zeemu ubuntu is debian
[12:33] <Minataku> stdin: Dumb users do the most harm
[12:33] <stdin> !de | karmikaze
[12:33] <ubotu> karmikaze: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:33] <zeemu> ok cool
[12:34] <StingRay> :D, cool, stdin
[12:34] <karmikaze> im not german
[12:34] <StingRay> I want some
[12:34] <genii> Timas Well, if you can at least get into it such as now, if the firmware update is somehow responible for that component not working, you could try to re-apply it I suppose. Tho the best way would *not* be over the wireless to do this
[12:34] <noiesmo> Bluedog, I use envy a couple things to check that might help you
[12:34] <zeemu> kamakazi: can you remind me how to get a list of packages?
[12:34] <stdin> Minataku: I'm the only user with sudo access, the worst they can do is mess up there home dir
[12:34] <Minataku> stdin: Never underestimate XD
[12:34] <stdin> Tamacracka: there isn't much you need to do, you can run fsck (look at "man fsck"), other than that, linux takes care of itself
[12:35] <noiesmo> Bluedog, I open konsole thype uname -r then check if you have the linux-headers that match uname-r in /lib/modules
[12:35] <noiesmo> */thype/type
[12:35] <Tamacracka> stdin is there any reason why my programs sometimes randomly just shutdown and why my PC freezes?
[12:35] <stdin> Minataku: really, one user the other day asked me to "remind him how to copy and paste"
[12:35] <Bluedog> ok , will do
[12:35] <Bluedog> thanks
[12:35] <Tamacracka> it's startin to remind me of windows again.
[12:35] <Minataku> stdin: rofl
[12:36] <zeemu> karmikaze: how can i get a list of packages available for download through apt-get
[12:36] <Minataku> Tamacracka: Maybe you have marginal HW
[12:36] <Tamacracka> marginal?
[12:36] <noiesmo> Bluedog, if not install a linux-image that you can also get the linux headers for.
[12:36] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: yeah have to be carefull, it sometimes installs the nvidia stuff for the kernel your not using by default, you often have to remove the old kernel to stop it booting
[12:36] <Tamacracka> can you explain?
[12:36] <dwidmann> lintian makes the kubxtra package cry =O
[12:36] <stdin> Tamacracka: I'd say look at the logs in /var/log/ to check for clues, and run memtest at boot to check your RAM for errors
[12:36] <Minataku> Tamacracka: Near failure
[12:37] <karmikaze> ummm theres too many zeemu, apt-cache search something
[12:37] <Bluedog> linux isnt as easy as they make out it now is, is it :P
[12:37] <Bluedog> im trying to get the livecd install working before using full linux
[12:37] <genii> <- away from keyboard a minute or 2 but returning
[12:37] <karmikaze> apt-cache search broswer
[12:37] <Bluedog> dont wanna kill my hdd for nothing
[12:37] <karmikaze> or whatever you are lookin for
[12:37] <farkr> do you think xubuntu running in a virtual machine running on windows2000, with 768mb ram would be fast enough?
[12:37] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: no desktop is really, I have issues with newbies on all the platforms
[12:37] <noiesmo> Bluedog, you could do this "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)" that will install the headers if avail for yuor current kernel
[12:37] <Tamacracka> you know what.. i should run memory test, even though it takes for ever lol but i've only done it once.
[12:37] <Tamacracka> lol Linux
[12:37] <Bluedog> ok :D
[12:37] <Tamacracka> <- Newbie :P
[12:37] <StingRay> stdin, I'd better visit www.go-to-bed.org. What is your local time?
[12:38] <farkr> everyones a newbie at something :)
[12:38] <Tamacracka> yep that's why i openly accept it.
[12:38] <farkr> unless they don't even try, in which ase tehy're worse than noobs !
[12:38] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: one thing i have noticed is i get far less "I downloaded this app and now my machine just crashes" with Linux
[12:38] <stdin> StingRay: it's 21:38 here, just finished a LoCo team meeting :P
[12:38] <Bluedog> yeah :D
[12:38] <Minataku> farkr: Yeah. They're Windows users. *rimshot*
[12:38] <Minataku> j/k XD
[12:38] <Bluedog> ive used it before, just not on this machine
[12:38] <Tamacracka> brb gonna run mem test :P
[12:38] <Bluedog> ubuntu seems to hate 7800 GTs
[12:39] <farkr> kinda true since windows hides everything so you never have to learn anything, then again ubuntu is trying to do that too ;x
[12:39] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: no its works fine
[12:39] <dwidmann> hmm, but it likes my 7900gtx :)
[12:39] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: knowlege is your problem
[12:39] <Minataku> farkr: That's why Kubuntu is better, since KDE doesn't hide everything (and suck) like GNOME does
[12:39] <Bluedog> hehe
[12:39] <Bluedog> fair enough
[12:39] <stdin> StingRay: my eyes are blurry, it's not 21:38 it's 23:39 now :P
[12:39] <farkr> cant argue
[12:39] <Minataku> I mean, KDE is still pretty bad, but you know
[12:39] <Minataku> XD
[12:39] <StingRay> You are too far on west...Where is this?
[12:40] <Thehound666> Maybe you guys can explain what happened with one of my Kubuntu installs. My system clock was running half speed then I finally thought to run recovery mode
[12:40] <Bluedog> i was just shocked the livecd crashed on boot, taken me hours to get stuff going :D
[12:40] <StingRay> I just thought you live in the ocean. stdin lol
[12:40] <Thehound666> then it was fine
[12:40] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: I would say you have the driver but its for a kernel version your not actually booting
[12:40] <Timas> I got you all beat, its 00:39 for me
[12:40] <Bluedog> yeah :)
[12:40] <Minataku> Wed Jan 10 18:39:26 EST 2007
[12:40] <genii> Minataku is in my time zone :)
[12:40] <stdin> Timas: but I've been here since 8am :P
[12:40] <Minataku> genii: Just farther south than you are
[12:41] <Minataku> ^^
[12:41] <genii> Heh :)
[12:41] <matthew> hi
[12:41] <Timas> pfft, these days I got too much of a life to be able to do those kind of things :P
[12:41] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: the drivers are installed for a "set kernel version", I had a similar problem it installed the driver and a different kernel to match but when i rebooted it still used the old default kernel so the driver didnt work
[12:41] <genii> stdin Geez didn't see you here :)
[12:41] <Bluedog> gotcha
[12:41] <stdin> genii: heh :)
[12:41] <Minataku> genii: Any word on quickly smuggling that IPX out for me before anyone notices?
[12:41] <Bluedog> so if i check my uname -r matched i should be ok?
[12:41] <Tamacracka> if the memory test fails.. will i be able to log onto kubuntu?
[12:41] <Tamacracka> or should i back up all my files before the memory test?
[12:41] <dwidmann> wow, someone in the same time zone as me | minataku
[12:42] <Minataku> Tamacracka: Memtest runs separate on the bare hardware
[12:42] <Tamacracka> ok good
[12:42] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: yes, also look in adept and remove the old kernel if its not the marching one for the nvidia driver that should stop it booting the wrong kernel
[12:42] <Minataku> If it fails then all it means is that something is wrong with your RAM
[12:42] <Tamacracka> dont wanna lose my files :P
[12:42] <Tamacracka> good good :P
[12:42] <Tamacracka> alright thanks Minataku
[12:42] <Minataku> And would probably explain why both Windows and Linux both explode
[12:42] <Bluedog> thankya linux_galore :D
[12:42] <Minataku> Tamacracka: np
[12:42] <StingRay> Good night all | stdin, 2:00 am aproaching!
[12:42] <genii> Minataku Looks like all the rest is yours but that one... like I said before, he wants to give it to one of our original sysadmins from back in '93
[12:42] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: or just hit esc when you boot up right after the bios and select the other kernel
[12:42] <Thehound666> noone here knows why it happened either. Was very weird
[12:43] <stdin> StingRay: how much you wanna bet I'll be here when you wake up :P
[12:43] <Bluedog> im on a livecd, so im assuming thats not a possibility :)
[12:43] <Minataku> genii: Beat him up, push him down the stairs, something to get me that IPX!
[12:43] <Minataku> XD
[12:43] <Minataku> I just hope that the one from '93 says "What the hell do I want this for?"
[12:43] <genii> Minataku He's the guy who signs my paycheques!! ROFL
[12:43] <Minataku> genii: They'll replace him while he's in the hospital
[12:43] <Minataku> XD
[12:44] <Thehound666> noone ever have the clock run half speed in Kubuntu?
[12:44] <genii> Minataku Still, the Sparc10 and so on are still pretty good hauls I think. I still need to find a box that holds it all so I can get it weighed etc
[12:44] <StingRay> stdin, I would advise you to follow my bright example in the next 1-2 hours. I will be here at 6:30 am your time. If I see you here I think you will be tired...It is up to you ;), stdin
[12:44] <Thehound666> the disorder survives across reboots until you run recovery mode
[12:45] <Minataku> genii: Heehee
[12:45] <Minataku> Well, try to convince him that the guy won't want the IPX
[12:45] <Minataku> Though I guess it's easy for me to say that because I have a silver tounge
[12:45] <Minataku> XD
[12:45] <stdin> StingRay: I probably will, I'll see you later, night :)
[12:45] <genii> Minataku Actually what I'm working on is convincing him not to get it bronzed atm...
[12:46] <genii> ROFL
[12:46] <Minataku> lol
[12:46] <StingRay> thanks, stdin. To you too!
[12:46] <genii> OK, need to go grab a cig & coffee.... away for a bit
[12:46] <Minataku> Tell him it'll be free advertising if he gives it to me XD
[12:46] <Minataku> I'll say I got it from "Wherever you work"
[12:46] <Minataku> X3
[12:46] <genii> :)
[12:46] <Timas> Thehound666: I've seen a lot about this on the ubuntuforums.. but can't recall the context, sorry
[12:47] <Thehound666> ok, so it's not Ku specific
[12:47] <Thehound666> I'll give it a search
[12:47] <Thehound666> thanks
[12:48] <Minataku> Thehound666: Try searching Google entirely, it's more than likely not specific to *buntu either
[12:48] <hawk_> can someone tell me where i can get WINE from
[12:48] <Minataku> !wine
[12:48] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:48] <dwidmann> wine.budgetdedicated.com
[12:49] <hawk_> thank you very much
[12:49] <Thehound666> Cedega ftw
[12:49] <Thehound666> runs more than WINE at least for me
[12:49] <hawk_> but is that one cost money
[12:50] <Thehound666> yes, the only downfall
[12:50] <hawk_> how much dos it cost
[12:50] <Thehound666> but better than paying Bill for an OS(Vista)
[12:50] <Dasnipa`> hawk_, but only $20
[12:50] <Thehound666> if it's kept updated
[12:50] <hawk_> thank you so much
[12:51] <Dasnipa`> $5 a month, and when you sign up you have to sign up for 4 months. but when you cancel you keep the program you just cant get latest update
[12:51] <Thehound666> I have to still run XP for a few odd games though.
[12:51] <Thehound666> FFXI for one
[12:51] <Linux_Galore> God! I love Vista, If you were going to write a nice looking OS then turn it into a total pain in the rear with lots of DRM crippling features you would be hard out to beat Vista
[12:51] <gekkobuntu> hello this is only a test... could you hear me ?
[12:51] <Linux_Galore> put*
[12:51] <Thehound666> WINE and Cedega both get to chracter selection and freeze
[12:51] <JosefK> loud and clear gekkobuntu
[12:51] <Thehound666> which is odd
[12:51] <matthew__> i need help, adept is running read only mode because apparently another thing is using the packaging but  have only konqueror, adept manager and konversation running. how do i see what is running in the background?
[12:52] <gekkobuntu> thanx its my first time at freenode
[12:52] <Linux_Galore> Codeweavers 6.0 is out with WoW support built in and an install wizard for newbies
[12:52] <Thehound666> ksysGuard
[12:52] <hawk_> realy you can play wow now
[12:52] <Thehound666> in the system menu
[12:52] <Linux_Galore> hawk_: yeppers
[12:53] <hawk_> WOW that is so cool
[12:53] <hawk_> lol pun
[12:53] <Thehound666> it is, now get FFXI out of compatibility: rubbish and I'll be happy
[12:54] <strayhikari> Quick question: Installing restricted codecs, the list of items to apt-get from the ubuntu docs, "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs ogle ogle-gui" Will that work in Kubuntu? or Just in Gnome?
[12:54] <bobesponja> my trash is not working, everytime I try to move a file to Trash the progress dialg get stuck at 0%
[12:54] <hawk_> well i have to install wine.... so i wiil stay on but just not talking for some time
[12:54] <Thehound666> not sure why it's so hard, only obstacle I see is its device detection routines
[12:54] <Thehound666> k
[12:54] <Linux_Galore> Cedega is pretty evil they dont add anything to the community really, codeweavers send all their source code to the wine project
[12:55] <Linux_Galore> also you need a password to install Cedega now, not with Codeweavers
[12:56] <Linux_Galore> you can install codeweavers on all your machines at home, Cedega has a limited license install that password protected
[12:56] <Linux_Galore> and not "FOSS"
[12:57] <Thehound666> I'm only saying I'd rather pay Cedega than Bill Gates
[12:57] <Thehound666> Especially if Cedega solves the few remaining major issues
[12:57] <farkr> what do i have to do if i want to mount my fat32 partition under my normal user home dir?
[12:57] <Linux_Galore> Thehound666: you may as well pay bill gates, they do bugger all for FOSS
[12:59] <Linux_Galore> farkr: check you /etc/fstab file and see were its mounted first on your file system
[12:59] <Linux_Galore> your*
[12:59] <Linux_Galore> farkr: if its not there you may have to create an entry for it
[01:00] <Linux_Galore> farkr: then just put a link on your desktop
[01:00] <Bluedog> you guys rule :)
[01:01] <Bluedog> my question is
[01:01] <hawk_> back
[01:01] <Bluedog> why do the restricted modules preinstalled on the livecd not match the kernel?
[01:02] <Bluedog> uname -r gives 2.6.17-10-generic
[01:02] <Bluedog> if you look in synaptic, the installed versions are for a newer kernel
[01:02] <genii> Has anyone worked with crystalspace3D engine?
[01:02] <Bluedog> if you roll them back, THEN install the nvidia-glx driver, it works perfectly
[01:02] <Bluedog> doesnt make sense to me? :S
[01:03] <maxima> s
[01:03] <Minataku> wb, genii
[01:03] <genii> Minataku Heh :)
[01:03] <Minataku> genii: Just in case, note I was joking about injuring your boss (or anyone) XD
[01:03] <Bluedog> but yeah, thanks Linux_Galore :P
[01:03] <genii> Minataku Yeah I know LOL no worries
[01:04] <Minataku> k ^^
[01:04] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: whats the nividia kernel version it uses
[01:04] <willys_fueguino> hello. Could someone tell me a command to execute adept as user x with su privilegies??
[01:04] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: is it still 2.6.17 ?
[01:05] <matthew__> i cant use adept because something is using packaging. how do i stop it? only able to use read only mode for adept right now
[01:05] <genii> Or if not crystalspace3D does anyone know of a good open-source game engine to look at?
[01:05] <Bluedog> i think so, but its 2.6.17-15 if I remember correctly
[01:05] <Bluedog> im on .17-10
[01:05] <Bluedog> swapping out the restricted package for the older one made it all click
[01:05] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: aah dont attach the same release numbers on the kernels they are not the same
[01:05] <genii> Egdy default should be.17-10-generic yeah
[01:06] <Bluedog> yeah
[01:06] <Bluedog> so thats right?
[01:06] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: as long as its 2.6.17  your fine the last number "is the release version for that particular kernel"
[01:06] <Bluedog> I checked my kernel version, and had to roll back the restricted drivers package to make nvidia-glx work
[01:06] <Bluedog> ah right
[01:06] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: I did that too, there not the same release cycle
[01:07] <xwolf-> has anyone already upgraded x-server-xorg-core package? last time the upgrade was buggy and i had to downgrade..
[01:07] <Bluedog> so, it means the restricted package is from a newer kernel version than I have installed? Just checking my knowledge :)
[01:07] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: bit of an oranges and pears comparison thing
[01:08] <Bluedog> ah..
[01:08] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: ignore the last number when relating to the generic kernels
[01:08] <Bluedog> I cant help feel I'm missing something, this is all a bit new to me :P
[01:08] <hawk_> anyone know anything about wine
[01:08] <stdin> Bluedog: have you updated adept, or ran apt-get update ?
[01:08] <Bluedog> so why did reverting the restricted package to an older version make the nvidia drivers on synaptic suddenly work?
[01:09] <Bluedog> stdin: what is adept? :$
[01:09] <Bluedog> hehe
[01:09] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: ok, now what you do is when you boot up press esc and select the kernel that uses the nvidia drivers
[01:09] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: right after the bios screen
[01:09] <stdin> Bluedog: ahh, your in gnome aren't you
[01:09] <SheickSouth> Hi Any idea how I can install my standard widoze fonts in Kubuntu, please? Any link?
[01:09] <stdin> Bluedog: synaptic then
[01:09] <Bluedog> ah :) ok
[01:09] <Bluedog> I'm running a livecd at the moment linux galore, so I guess I can't do that
[01:10] <Bluedog> but on a proper install, I do that instead I assume
[01:10] <Bluedog> I've done things a bit backwards as its not on my harddisk
[01:10] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: if you dont get the nvidia startup flash screen then configure your setup with   sudo  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:10] <Bluedog> it works a treat now that i changed the restricted package
[01:11] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: make sure you select dri  and nvidia when it shows up in the wizard
[01:11] <Timas> alright my last issue for the day: adept (or apt, if you prefer) is constantly listing 2 packages that have the status "Upgradable" and if I change the actual action to "Upgrade" throw a big nasty red "BREAK (Upgrade)" at me.. anyone have any idea how to fix this?  Packages are libcairo2 and the dev
[01:11] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: aah so its working ??
[01:11] <Bluedog> change restricted package to match uname -r version, install nvidia-glx from synaptic also, run nvidia-xconfig, restart x, and it works
[01:11] <Bluedog> yeah, sorry, i wasnt very clear :D hehe
[01:12] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: some times I find it bombs for some weird reason
[01:12] <vyoman> does anybody know what has been changed or fixed in todays updates?
[01:12] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: so you removed the old kernel too ??
[01:12] <kkerwin> Hi. Where can I find out about the current status of the ATI fglrx issue?
[01:12] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: sorry the kernel that doesnt have nvidia support
[01:12] <stdin> Bluedog: if you try and install the linux-restricted-modules-2.6..... package, dose it want to install a linux-image-2.6..... of the same version ?
[01:12] <kkerwin> And/or how to fix it?
[01:12] <Bluedog> ive not touched the kernels
[01:13] <stdin> Bluedog: in synaptic
[01:13] <vyoman> ahh i just had problems with my nvida card after updating
[01:13] <Linux_Galore> vyoman: how so
[01:13] <Bluedog> i just swapped out linux-restricted-modules-whatever to match my actual kernel version, then it worked. The guide said to choose the correct one, the problem was a newer one was already installed
[01:13] <vyoman> i usually have to reinstall the nvdia binary driver after xorg changes
[01:13] <Bluedog> Didn't make me change any images, etc
[01:14] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: yeah, wrong version though
[01:14] <vyoman> like todays, however something is very different the boot process slightly slower and the my two screens load differently
[01:14] <franx> good morning all
[01:15] <BluesKaj> evening franx :)
[01:15] <Bluedog> actually linux_galore, I think im talking crap
[01:15] <genii> Timas still here?
[01:15] <vyoman> i hate applying updates without knowing what they do (i know i keep saying that)
[01:15] <Bluedog> ive actually updated the linux-restricted-modules thing
[01:15] <Bluedog> not downgraded it
[01:15] <Timas> sure am genii
[01:15] <Bluedog> I misread the version for the name
[01:15] <franx> =] 
[01:16] <franx> i think ksudo is broken also
[01:16] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: hmm
[01:16] <Bluedog> so I just needed to install the right (newer) restricted modules package for it to work
[01:16] <Bluedog> thanks a lot for your help :P
[01:16] <franx> and adept manager breaks every so often
[01:16] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: some times the kernel for the nvidia stuff doesnt have the same numbering
[01:16] <franx> i did get wpa and wireless working
[01:16] <vyoman> anyway for this with binary nvidia drivers (latest version) just run ok everything and run the installer again, this should work
[01:16] <franx> even with using a 2.4ghz
[01:17] <franx> it did confuse me why my internet stopped working when someone called me though
[01:17] <franx> haha
[01:17] <genii> Timas found some interesting info on your router:
[01:17] <genii> http://www.von-oppen.com/zope/wiki/main/WlanRouter
[01:17] <genii> http://isl3893.sourceforge.net/
[01:17] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: as long as it works, does glxgears work ?
[01:17] <genii> it has a serial port interface for instance
[01:17] <Bluedog> okay.. I guess it just needed updating then? I must've put the wrong one on initially..
[01:17] <Bluedog> good point,  shoulda checked that
[01:17] <Bluedog> I got the nvidia splash so assumed its accelerated
[01:17] <franx> anyway i have a question about the nvidia drivers and television
[01:18] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: not always
[01:18] <Bluedog> ok
[01:18] <Bluedog> gears works.. how do you get the FPS up?
[01:18] <franx> i want to use this box as a mythtv box, but when i plug the rca out to the card and the box the machine loads up on the tv then i get the light blue screen and nothing i can read
[01:18] <Bluedog> sure it used to show that..
[01:18] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: look in the terminal
[01:18] <franx> anyone know the best way to have a tv as your 'monitor'
[01:19] <franx> not as a second monitor etcc
[01:19] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: run glxgears in a terminal it should show the fps speeds
[01:19] <Bluedog> doesnt seem to show
[01:19] <franx> i thought of maybe getting a vga-rca cable
[01:19] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: do you see the gears rotating ?
[01:19] <hawk_> irc://irc.freenode.net/#winehq
[01:19] <Bluedog> yeah, gears is fine
[01:19] <hawk_> sorry
[01:19] <Bluedog> just no fps :)
[01:20] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: did you run it in a terminal ?
[01:20] <Timas> genii: cool, but its already running a linux version so I don't need to do much with that :P
[01:20] <Bluedog> yeah
[01:20] <BluesKaj> mythtv is is for tivo type apps ...TVTime works for me
[01:20] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: ooh dont type  glxgears &
[01:20] <genii> Timas on the first link he discusses a firmware bug which causes it to hang and there is a link to the firmware which fixes this etc
[01:20] <Bluedog> just sits with cursor on empty line..
[01:21] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: just  glxgears
[01:21] <BluesKaj> fgl_glxgears :)
[01:21] <genii> Timas As well some info on reverting it to the "stock" firmware and so on
[01:22] <Timas> aside of that, considering my issue with apt/adept isn't going to be fixed today, I'm heading out! alarm for work goes in about 4.5 hours ;)   Genii thanks a lot, these links will prove very useful
[01:22] <Timas> Later people!
[01:22] <genii> Timas Have fun sleep well
[01:22] <Bluedog> ah well, the fact the gears run makes me think its accelerated
[01:22] <jerry01> I'm trying to find a name that wasn't registered despite jerry actually being my real name
[01:23] <Bluedog> thanks a lot for your help :)
[01:23] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: if it doesnt run its not working, its that simple
[01:23] <Bluedog> awesome :D
[01:23] <BluesKaj> how about jerciho
[01:24] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: I think fgl_glxgears is for ati
[01:24] <Bluedog> Yeah, not available
[01:24] <BluesKaj> Linux_Galore, dunno for sure but i think it's also a test for 3d accel
[01:25] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog:  check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf  file make sure dri   is enabled
[01:25] <BluesKaj> glxgears is 2 dimensional  fgl_glxgears is 3d
[01:25] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: you can also disable compiz if your not using beryl to get better fps
[01:26] <Bluedog> Linux_Galore: dri?
[01:26] <stdin> BluesKaj: glxinfo is a test for DRI (3D accell)
[01:26] <BluesKaj> the gears spin around in 3axes
[01:26] <Bluedog> seems noticeably faster since i restarted x, so I think its running
[01:27] <Bluedog> well, im sure
[01:27] <stdin> and glxgears is the test for non ATI cards
[01:27] <BluesKaj> ok
[01:27] <BluesKaj> it's just that the glxgears test is only a 2 dimension test on this pc
[01:28] <MarcC> how can I discover Windows machines behind my router and connect to them?
[01:28] <stdin> Bluedog: if "glxinfo|grep direct" shows "direct rendering: Yes" , then it's working
[01:28] <Bluedog> ball
[01:28] <Bluedog> s
[01:28] <Bluedog> says no :/
[01:28] <Bluedog> its doing something as i can run gears, I get the nvidia splash, and its a lot lot faster now...
[01:29] <stdin> BluesKaj: use the arrow keys to move the gears
[01:29] <BluesKaj> whereas the fgl_glxgears test contains the gears in six sides of a cube all spinning at once while the cube spins as well
[01:29] <stdin> Bluedog: aslong as it's working faster :)
[01:29] <Bluedog> is direct rendering easily enabled / required?
[01:30] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: sudo  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   select dri in the modules section
[01:30] <karmikaze> anyone know how to configure yakauke?
[01:30] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: or manually add a single line
[01:30] <genii> MarcC For accessing machines behind a router from over the internet you would normally need to set some things in the router to allow traffic to be directed thru it to whichever machine
[01:31] <MarcC> genii: I am behind the same router
[01:31] <Bluedog> thanks :)
[01:31] <MarcC> genii: is there some sort of router config I need to set up to see my peers on this router?
[01:31] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog:   just add Load "dri"   to  /etc/X11/xorg.conf   in the modules section
[01:32] <genii> MarcC If all the machines then are getting internal IP addresses on the same segment, you should be able to connect to them without too much problems. The windows boxes just need to be running Windows Networking and then from the linux box you use Samba
[01:33] <MarcC> genii: thanks, I'll give it a try
[01:33] <Bluedog> should I enable kernel framebuffer?
[01:33] <slop> how do i format a windows NTFS drive (slave)?
[01:33] <slop> NTFS >> ext3
[01:33] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: although i find running the dpkg-reconfigure  thing seems to also edit some extra stuff in for you ie v4l
[01:33] <genii> slop You want to convert the NTFS drive to ext3?
[01:34] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: yes
[01:34] <stdin> slop: sudo mke2fs -j /dev/hdb1 (if hdb1 is the NTFS partition)
[01:34] <Bluedog> ta
[01:34] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: turn  v4l and dri on when it gets the the modules section
[01:34] <slop> stdin: thanks :
[01:35] <genii> stdin The partition type would be good if it said Linux instead of HPFS/NTFS
[01:35] <slop> :)
[01:35] <MarcC> my system settings window does not show the buttons at the top (show all, etc.) - is this fixable somewhere? I have to re-open it every time because there is no back button.
[01:35] <stdin> slop: make sure you use the right partition, as it can't be reversed, and make sure the NTFS partition is not mounted
[01:36] <stdin> genii: the partition type is set my the file system on it
[01:36] <Bluedog> brb restarting x :)
[01:37] <stdin> MarcC: dose it have an "Overview" button ?
[01:38] <MarcC> stdin: nope, there are no buttons, just categories & icons
[01:38] <genii> stdin I've found it can get confusing if fdisk says one thing but the actual fs is something else entirely  :)
[01:39] <stdin> genii: when I've formatted (for example) a fat32 partition as ext3 with mke2fs -j, fdisk shows it as "Linux" after
[01:40] <franx> !nvidia
[01:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:40] <ninnghizidha> Hello - I am on Kubuntu Edgy and i cant upload files to Flickr with Konqueror. Any ideas how to fix that? Am i the only one with that problem? it works quite well with firefox.
[01:41] <Bluedog> Completed that, still shows as turned off tho :(
[01:41] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: did you reboot the whole machine to restart X ?
[01:41] <Bluedog> nope, im on a livecd so im trying to iron out all the problems before formatting
[01:41] <Bluedog> restarting means i lose the lot :P
[01:41] <Bluedog> will be installing tomorrow though
[01:42] <Bluedog> now ive got x up and figured that out, I may just leave it till then
[01:42] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: yeah, have to make sure you tick the DRI [*]    box
[01:42] <Bluedog> I did, and v4l
[01:42] <Bluedog> its now written into the .conf
[01:42] <Bluedog> assuming I need a reboot
[01:42] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: the live CD has some limits though so it may not work
[01:43] <matthew__> hey is it possible to add a mouse gesture ext. to konqeror like we can with firefox?
[01:43] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: no you log out or hit ctrl alt backspace
[01:43] <Bluedog> yup, i did ctrl alt backspace, then startx
[01:44] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: look in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file   should be a line with Load "dri"  if not add it
[01:45] <Bluedog> yeah, its there =(
[01:45] <Bluedog> I read that it's not supposed to be there for nvidia cards sometimes though, theres a seperate line that goes inside the device block in xorg.conf?
[01:45] <Bluedog> maybe im wrong though
[01:45] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: I would say its an issue with a live boot
[01:45] <Bluedog> yeah :)
[01:46] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: works fine on all my machines
[01:46] <Bluedog> cool
[01:46] <Bluedog> thanks so much for your help man :P
[01:46] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: and there all nvidia even my laptop
[01:46] <Bluedog> nice
[01:47] <Linux_Galore> Bluedog: feisty should setup the nvidia stuff by default in future (we hope)
[01:47] <Bluedog> awesome
[01:47] <Bluedog> ive met a lot of lost people with the same problems as me on forums via google, at least now I can tell them how I put it right :D
[01:47] <matthew__> hey guys, i got frostwire.deb now how would i quickly instal it?
[01:48] <Kr4t05> I'm having problems using the LiveCD to resize my linux partition.
[01:48] <MarcC> how do I start samba?
[01:48] <Kr4t05> QTParted hangs at "Scanning all disk partitons"
[01:48] <Linux_Galore> matthew_ :sudo dpkg -i frostwire*.deb
[01:49] <Linux_Galore> matthew_: or just click on it
[01:49] <matthew__> ty
[01:50] <Linux_Galore> matthew__: install kpackage, it makes life easy
[01:51] <matthew__> ah ok, right click -> install package. thanks, just clickign on it opened it in windows with 3 files
[01:52] <Bluedog> night guys, thanks again
[01:52] <Linux_Galore> matthew__: if you have kpackage installed and you click on a .deb it should ask you if you want to run the installer (doesnt for me because i have it hard set)
[01:54] <Linux_Galore> l8ter Bluedog
[01:55] <hawk_> dos aircrack work on kubuntu
[01:56] <Linux_Galore> hawk_:  cant see why not it runs on Linux
[01:56] <Linux_Galore> hawk_: http://freshmeat.net/projects/aircrack/
[01:57] <muesli_> hey guys
[01:57] <hawk_> ok just need to see
[01:57] <Amadeo> Anyone happen to have a Plantronics DSP-500 and have it fully working in Kubuntu?
[01:57] <muesli_> when starting firefox, it displays me a message, telling me that it couldn't find "/usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/locales/index-en_GB.html"
[01:57] <muesli_> am i missing some package?
[02:00] <Linux_Galore> muesli_: yeah, that file
[02:00] <Linux_Galore> hmm
[02:00] <muesli_> Linux_Galore: that file isn't a package
[02:01] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: besides it doesn't show up on packages.ubuntu.com
[02:01] <mueslix> so i'm wondering if it's a missing dependancy or if there's some other borkage
[02:01] <sleepy495> How do I enable AIGLX in x.org 7.1?
[02:02] <stdin> sleepy495: edgy?
[02:02] <sleepy495> yes
[02:02] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: actually it is lol,   lookup  firefox in adept make sure    mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb  is installed
[02:02] <stdin> sleepy495: it's easy :) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLXOnEdgy
[02:03] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: it is
[02:03] <stdin> mueslix: it's in the package ubuntu-docs
[02:03] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: have you installed your own version of ff
[02:04] <Linux_Galore> stdin: weird place to put it
[02:04] <stdin> Linux_Galore: yeah, I had to dig around a but to find it :P
[02:05] <Linux_Galore> stdin: doesnt show up on my machine when i search for a matching file within the packages
[02:05] <hawk_> i am sorry but how do you use the makefile command
[02:05] <mueslix> stdin: usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/locales-ubuntu/index-en_GB.html is in ubuntu-docs, right?
[02:05] <mueslix> but not the file i'm looking for.
[02:05] <mueslix> correct me if i'm mistaken.
[02:09] <matthew> i get this message when trying to instal kpacage with adept: there as an error commiting changes. possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. what should i do?
[02:09] <stdin> mueslix: humm, let me have another look
[02:10] <Linux_Galore> stdin: I dont have it either but ff works fine
[02:10] <hawk_> what dos this mean ..... install: missing destination file operand after
[02:10] <stdin> mueslix: the only thing like it I can find is "edubuntu-artwork: usr/share/edubuntu-artwork/home/locales/index-en_GB.html"
[02:11] <Linux_Galore> mueslix:   if your lazy just type   sudo  touch /usr/share/edubuntu-artwork/home/locales/index-en_GB.htm
[02:12] <Linux_Galore> mueslix:   if your lazy just type   sudo  touch /usr/share/edubuntu-artwork/home/locales/index-en_GB.html  oops
[02:12] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: well, that's not exactly the point. if it's an error one should fix it ;-)
[02:12] <stdin> mueslix: maybe this chould work too "sudo update-alternatives --config firefox-homepage" and it should be set to "/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kubuntu/about-kubuntu/index.html"
[02:12] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: yeah but its rubbish
[02:12] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: I dont even have that file
[02:13] <Tox> is there any program to learn English in kubuntu ?
[02:13] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: of course i can just change firefox's homepage ;-)
[02:13] <mueslix> anyways, i'll see if i can find it still and will file a bug report.
[02:13] <mueslix> just wanted to check if it's some weird borkage. thanks guys
[02:17] <matthew> how do i fix adept could not commit changes error? i have full admin access.
[02:17] <matthew> just trying to instal kpackage
[02:18] <Linux_Galore> sudo  apt-get install kpackage
[02:19] <Linux_Galore> if that fails run  sudo dpkg  --configure -a  then   sudo apt-get update   then  apt-get install kpackage
[02:20] <Linux_Galore> mattew: also turn adept off if your using apt-get at the command line
[02:20] <matthew> ok, its working now that i use konsole and type command line.
[02:21] <matthew> but would that fix future error message like that when tryign to use adept again?
[02:21] <Linux_Galore> matthew: run the first two steps in my previous fix
[02:22] <matthew> ok will give it a try, ty very much.
[02:24] <karmikaze> can someone please tell me what this weather app is:    http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=38718&file1=38718-1.jpg&file2=38718-2.jpg&file3=38718-3.jpg&name=Yakuake-Iced
[02:24] <phil_> g
[02:25] <TheDebugger> karmikaze: superkaramba i think
[02:25] <karmikaze> ta
[02:26] <Linux_Galore> karmikaze: its Crystal Weather applet running under super-karamba
[02:26] <karmikaze> ty
[02:27] <Linux_Galore> karmikaze: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=6384
[02:27] <karmikaze> nice
[02:27] <Linux_Galore> sorry Liquid Weather applet ro be more exact
[02:27] <Linux_Galore> to*
[02:28] <Linux_Galore> karmikaze: if you look on the left hand side click on karamba
[02:28] <karmikaze> hm
[02:29] <Linux_Galore> karmikaze: should show all the applet stuff you can run under super-karamba
[02:29] <karmikaze> cool
[02:29] <Linux_Galore> karmikaze: super-keramba can download and install the applets for you automatically, it has a built on applet search and install thing
[02:30] <karmikaze> ooh
[02:30] <karmikaze> nice
[02:31] <karmikaze> yeah
[02:31] <Linux_Galore> karmikaze: you may have to turn superkaramba of though when playing games
[02:31] <karmikaze> oh
[02:31] <karmikaze> well doesnt matter, everything else is broken on here :P
[02:31] <Linux_Galore> karmikaze: it can create graphical conflicts with games that want to use all the resources they can
[02:31] <karmikaze> nod
[02:32] <karmikaze> beryl is why i dont play games :P
[02:32] <Linux_Galore> karmikaze: karamba is a bit intensive when it refreshed some of the applets
[02:32] <karmikaze> ok
[02:32] <Linux_Galore> refreshes*
[02:32] <Thehound666> think I found the evil process that did it and just replaced it with something else for the purpose
[02:32] <Thehound666> ATI's display drivers
[02:33] <Thehound666> using the open ones now
[02:33] <Linux_Galore> karmikaze: it will work better in kde4 though its better intergrated
[02:33] <karmikaze> nod
[02:33] <karmikaze> the install doesnt seem to work
[02:33] <karmikaze> it just brings up the website
[02:33] <Linux_Galore> karmikaze: yeah you may have to manually install some of them
[02:34] <Linux_Galore> karmikaze: some have a setup script you have to run ie region
[02:34] <karmikaze> hrm
[02:34] <karmikaze> ok
[02:34] <Linux_Galore> karmikaze: I dont run it because it feels a bit too hacky for me
[02:35] <karmikaze> sure does heh
[02:35] <Linux_Galore> karmikaze: then again if your running xgl its going to be super hacky lol
[02:35] <karmikaze> i dunno whats up, most of my finer graphics stuff seems tobe broken, and update is prompting to remove my nvidia-glx which is making me nervous
[02:36] <Thehound666> use the open source drivers anyone who uses ATI cards
[02:36] <karmikaze> ohhh
[02:36] <hawk_> what are some cool stuff that i can get for this os
[02:36] <Linux_Galore> karmikaze: means you still have the none nvidia kernel installed, remove it and it will stop that
[02:36] <Thehound666> ATI's own just went psycho on me I found out
[02:36] <karmikaze> actually now that im looking it seems it doesnt know the name of my card anymore
[02:37] <karmikaze> glxinfo i mean
[02:37] <karmikaze> something got buggered big time...
[02:37] <karmikaze> oh well guess updating cant make things any worse than they already are...
[02:38] <matthew> adept is failign to laod for me. i didnt even get to enter password. any idea what is wrong?
[02:39] <angrydill> q
[02:43] <mueslix> hm
[02:43] <mueslix> after rebooting, kdm shows up on both of my screens and everything's fine. as soon as i login the left screen turns of and kde starts up on one screen.
[02:43] <mueslix> what could be wrong there?
[02:46] <matthew> wish i could help but im really really new to this os
[02:47] <pip`> how does one decompress a rar file in kubuntu ?
[02:47] <ninnghizidha> install rar-unfree
[02:47] <ninnghizidha> :)
[02:50] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: do you have two screens setup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:50] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: yes and it was working till this reboot
[02:51] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: as mentioned, kdm still shows up on both screens properly
[02:51] <mueslix> as soon as i login and the splash screen shows up it's disabling the left monitor
[02:51] <Thehound666> I put in a 9250 on the advice of you guys but I overlooked the driver as the source of my issues. Seems sorted by using the open source driver
[02:52] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: so you have Identifier "Screen0"  and Identifier "Screen1" in the xorg.conf  file
[02:52] <mueslix> i got nvidia's twinview
[02:52] <mueslix> not the real xinerama
[02:52] <Linux_Galore> mueslix:can you check for me
[02:52] <mueslix> nope i do not therefore
[02:53] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: then thats your problem you only have a setup for one screen
[02:53] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: but you know how twinview works?
[02:54] <phil_> im new to linux is there a simlpe faq for xgl or somthing similar?
[02:54] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: so shall i just add a fake second screen or what?
[02:54] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: you mean "dual monitor"  yes
[02:54] <mueslix> nope, i mean nvidia's twinview. which is not the same as xinerama
[02:54] <hannah_> how does one improve the look of fonts displayed on a notebook lcd screen?  text looks coarse and choppy.
[02:55] <stdin> !xgl | phil_
[02:55] <ubotu> phil_: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:55] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: brb
[02:55] <stdin> phil_: do you have an avidia or ATI card?
[02:56] <phil_> nvidia, kinda old though
[02:56] <phil_> geforce 2 ithink
[02:56] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: so what do you suggest? just adding a fake second screen?!
[02:57] <angrydill> hannah - Do you know if "anti-aliasing" is turned on in the KDE Control Center (Apperance > Fonts)?
[02:57] <Linux_Galore> mueslix:
[02:57] <Linux_Galore> Option "TwinView" "true"
[02:57] <Linux_Galore> - Option "ConnectedMonitor" "CRT, CRT"
[02:57] <Linux_Galore> - Option "TwinViewOrientation" "LeftOf"
[02:57] <Linux_Galore> - Option "MetaModes" "1280x960,1280x1024"
[02:57] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: is that in xorg.conf
[02:57] <stdin> phil_: you need the binary nvidia driver for XGL, have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:57] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: yup, that's what i got
[02:57] <angrydill> Anti-aliasing smoothes the fonts on screen
[02:58] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: and as mentioned, x11 knows both screens, otherwise kdm wouldn't properly show up on both screens
[02:58] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: it will also fail if there isnt enough ram on the card
[02:58] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: the trouble starts when kde starts up
[02:58] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: uhm, it has been working for several years now
[02:58] <mueslix> up to this reboot
[02:58] <angrydill> Also, if you aren't using the full (highest) resoultion on the Lcd, fonts may look distorted
[02:58] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: kdm uses less ram than the desktop
[02:58] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: gnah, don't try to bullshit me :D
[02:59] <zograf> How to compile mplayer for kubuntu 6.10? (with support ass subtitles) Give the reference on "howto" please.
[03:01] <Delphinus> does amarok need write access to read the tags off mp3 files please?
[03:01] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: check the logs, see what error it spits out
[03:01] <stdin> Delphinus: no, not to read
[03:02] <Delphinus> for some reason adding mp3s from a read only network share it wont get the artist information :(
[03:02] <hannah_> how does one improve the look of fonts displayed on a notebook lcd screen?  text looks coarse and choppy.
[03:03] <angrydill> hannah - Do you know if "anti-aliasing" is turned on in the KDE Control Center (Apperance > Fonts)? Anti-aliasing smoothes the fonts on screen. Also, if you aren't using the full (highest) resoultion on the Lcd, fonts may look distorted
[03:03] <Thehound666> when you guys are ready, more n00b questions, well just 1.
[03:04] <Thehound666> any idea how to run a .jar executable under Kubuntu?
[03:05] <Thehound666> works fine under Windows but haven't made it work so far here
[03:05] <angrydill> Has anyone here used kmail as a client for a Dovecot IMAP server?
[03:05] <stdin> Thehound666: .jar is Java, so you need to install the SUN Java JVM
[03:06] <Thehound666> can't say I have
[03:06] <Thehound666> the alternate JVM from the repository is not good enough?
[03:06] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: now, interestingly enough a reboot fixed it
[03:06] <Thehound666> works for my browser ok
[03:06] <pip`> MS's day are  numbered  !
[03:07] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: hmm
[03:07] <pip`> wow Edgy takes a long time to install
[03:07] <stdin> Thehound666: you can try it and see: java -jar filename.jar
[03:07] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: wasnt loading a module
[03:07] <Thehound666> ok from Konsole I assume
[03:07] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: nope, checked that. nvidia module was loaded fine and the dependancies were fine too, since i just ran depmod -a to be sure.
[03:07] <rance> is anyone a sound expert, I've tried two different sound cards and no matter what I do, I can't get sound from either of them, but both sound cards are properly detected at boot and the correct modules loaded, channels arent muted, but still no sound.
[03:07] <stdin> Thehound666: yes, you assume correctly :)
[03:07] <pip`> pip pip purray!
[03:07] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: no clue what it was, but it def. wasn't the xorg.conf
[03:08] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: OS weirdness lol
[03:08] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: nor the ram ;-)
[03:08] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: should say in the logs though why it failed
[03:09] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: that's the thing. it _didn't_ fail. x.org booted up nicely with two screens.
[03:09] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: kde disabled one of them on _purpose_
[03:10] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: so the fix is check xorg,conf and reboot lol
[03:10] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: sounds like windows
[03:10] <angrydill> Rance, In older (3.1?) versions of KDE, the "aRts" daemon used to interfere with my ability to get sound out of non-KDE apps.  I don't know if that's still a problem, but kill-ing the daemon got them to work
[03:11] <rance> I cant get any sound from any app, kde or otherwise
[03:11] <mueslix> any clue how i can change konqueror's default fileview to detailed list instead of icons?
[03:12] <Thehound666> is sun's Java as bad for Linux as Windows?
[03:12] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: dont laugh about the ram, I had one occasions were twinview worked, did an updated install edited the xorg.conf file and only one screen would work,  change the resolution down one setting and it worked
[03:12] <Thehound666> it didn't like my Java
[03:12] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: now that is possible.
[03:12] <Linux_Galore> mueslix: logs showed the card was running out of ram
[03:12] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: what's not possible is: if kdm already shows up, it will eat exactly as much ram as kde.
[03:12] <mueslix> a pixel is a pixel
[03:13] <mueslix> (talking about ram on the graphics card of course, not general ram)
[03:13] <Bal0o> hey again
[03:14] <angrydill> I run my checkbook app on Sun Java 1.4 on Mandrake and Kubuntu, and It's been rock stable.  Eclipse IDE too.
[03:14] <Bal0o> I have a quick Q. Is there any point using 64bit ubuntu atm? I've heard bad things about compatibility/drivers and the like, so should I stick to 32bit?
[03:14] <Bal0o> are there any big benefits to 64bit..
[03:15] <stdin> mueslix: try changing/adding "ViewMode=konq_iconview" to "ViewMode=konq_treeview" in ~.kde/share/config/konq to get the list view
[03:15] <angrydill> Bragging rights... for a little while ;)
[03:15] <stdin> Bal0o: if you don't have 4GB+ RAM, 32bit is better for you
[03:16] <Bal0o> ok, thx :)
[03:16] <stdin> Thehound666: SUNs java isn't "bad" for linux
[03:16] <Bal0o> this is so much better than the last time I installed mandrake, back in the day :P
[03:17] <Bal0o> just trying to choose between ubuntu/kubuntu, or both, obviously
[03:17] <stdin> Bal0o: yes, much
[03:17] <angrydill> KDE can do everything Gnome can, and more! /me dodges flames
[03:18] <stdin> angrydill: you won't get flamed for KDE love in here :)
[03:18] <stdin> Bal0o: the desktop install CD is also a live CD, so you can test it out before installing it
[03:19] <Bal0o> nice one
[03:19] <Thehound666> I don't understand why people do flame.
[03:19] <Thehound666> It's pretty and light
[03:21] <Thehound666> Windows love you might get flamed for
[03:21] <Thehound666> lol
[03:22] <Linux_Galore> Windows: me love you long time only $5
[03:22] <Thehound666> lol
[03:23] <Thehound666> I'd fully switch if we had the gaming support
[03:23] <matthew> hey guys is it possible to get mouse gesture in konqueror? or do i have to use FF?
[03:23] <Linux_Galore> Thehound666: Ive got WoW running now thank to Codeweavers 6.0
[03:24] <Daisuke_Ido> all i have to add is that kde is better on resources at 3.5.5 than gnome is at 2.16.  the gnome team still wasn't able to catch up, and kde 4 is fast approaching, which will be excellent
[03:24] <Linux_Galore> "with sound"
[03:24] <Lam_> my second hard drive has bad sectors that corrupted the linux partition and i want to somehow fix this. what's the best approach?
[03:24] <angrydill> Anybody use Cedega for Windows gaming on Linux?
[03:24] <matthew> how do get codeweavers?
[03:24] <Jucato> matthew: mouse gestures are in System Settings -> Accessibility -> Input Actions.
[03:24] <Daisuke_Ido> angrydill: not until i can play the longest journey flawlessly.
[03:25] <Thehound666> Cedega is good software but not free and they don't contribute all their code
[03:25] <Linux_Galore> matthew:   www.codeweavers.com  or <cough> bittorent <cough>
[03:25] <Thehound666> still does not work with certain games though
[03:25] <matthew> ty
[03:25] <Linux_Galore> Thehound666: try none because they are not GPL anymore
[03:26] <Linux_Galore> Thehound666: also its not based on wine anymore because of that fact
[03:26] <matthew> ok another question, is there bittorrent built in for kubuntu?
[03:26] <Thehound666> Ktorrent
[03:26] <Daisuke_Ido> or azureus if you're a masochist.
[03:26] <Thehound666> lol
[03:26] <stdin_> Lam_: when the partition is not mounted use: sudo fsck -f -c /dev/hdb1 (if hdb1 is the partition)
[03:26] <matthew> ty found it
[03:26] <Thehound666> Azureus is good for a dedicated box because it does everything well
[03:27] <Thehound666> it's just a pig
[03:27] <Daisuke_Ido> yes
[03:27] <Linux_Galore> I find azureus is faster than ktorrent still but uses heaps more resources
[03:27] <Linux_Galore> than ktorrent
[03:27] <kubuntero> can Kopete handle cross IM protocols?
[03:27] <Daisuke_Ido> if i were to run a box to JUST download torrents, i'd use azureus
[03:28] <Linux_Galore> kubuntero: it handles most of them
[03:28] <Daisuke_Ido> but i do so miss the rss features of utorrent
[03:28] <Thehound666> myself I use my boxes for everything and ktorrent is more than good enough
[03:28] <Linux_Galore> Daisuke_Ido: ktorrent now has rss
[03:28] <kubuntero> Linux_Galore: THere are only two that I know of :)
[03:28] <Daisuke_Ido> every time a new ep is released, BAM, automatically downloaded
[03:28] <Daisuke_Ido> ...really now.
[03:28] <kubuntero> AIM and ICQ
[03:28] <kubuntero> YAhoo and MSN
[03:28] <Linux_Galore> Daisuke_Ido: its in the new unstable branch
[03:28] <Thehound666> yup 2.1 beta does
[03:29] <Thehound666> it's not allowed at all trackers yet because some do not allow release candidates
[03:29] <Thehound666> or betas
[03:29] <Linux_Galore> kubuntero: I use gaim for yahoo and msn
[03:29] <Thehound666> 2.1rc1 now
[03:29] <kubuntero> Linux_Galore: I don't think that Gaim handles those
[03:29] <Linux_Galore> kubuntero: gaim will do yahoo/msn//irc  and a few others
[03:29] <kubuntero> Linux_Galore: HOld on
[03:30] <Linux_Galore> kubuntero: gaim even does Yahoo chat rooms
[03:30] <kubuntero> I'm talking about using a yahoo account to speak to someone on MSN
[03:30] <stdin_> kubuntero: kopete works with (amongst others): yahoo,msn,jabber,google talk,icq,ric ...
[03:30] <Linux_Galore> stdin: yeah but not the chat rooms
[03:30] <kubuntero> You know that Yahoo and MSN signed an agreement for cross protocol chat?
[03:30] <stdin_> kubuntero: you can be logged in on more than one account at the same time too, yes
[03:31] <Linux_Galore> kubuntero: yeah, Ive never tried that, I think its just a single login thing
[03:31] <Thehound666> I actually like Kopete
[03:31] <kubuntero> stdin_: NOt what I'm talking about :)
[03:31] <stdin_> It even imports all of your contacts
[03:31] <Lam_> stdin: ok my drive is starting it's scan. hopefully it'll work because i've tried pretty much everything. i'll get back to you. thanks
[03:31] <Thehound666> this is one of the few OS I like the preinstalled software on
[03:31] <kubuntero> Thehound666: Enjoy it one of my most hated K programs
[03:31] <kubuntero> stdin_: Right I can see that it does cross ICQ AIM
[03:31] <Schuenemann> anyone knows where amule saves downloaded files?
[03:32] <kubuntero> I'm logged into ICQ and I can see my AIM list
[03:32] <stdin_> Lam_: It will take a while to complete, so just relax and give it time :)
[03:32] <kubuntero> Can it do the same with Yahoo?
[03:32] <Thehound666> why is Kopete so bad? even webcam works
[03:32] <Thehound666> and it's stable
[03:32] <Linux_Galore> kubuntero: you can login to all of them at the same time
[03:32] <stdin_> kubuntero: yes, all your contacts from your account will be imported and displayed
[03:33] <kubuntero> Linux_Galore: I'd rather stay the hell off of MSN
[03:33] <kubuntero> Nearly everyone i knwo on there I'd rather not talk to
[03:33] <Linux_Galore> kubuntero:yeah, Ive stopped using Spamsn
[03:34] <Thehound666> meh better than Stalkhoo if you've been in their chats even once
[03:34] <Linux_Galore> kubuntero: Ive been using the google chat lately between the offices
[03:34] <kubuntero> Google chat is great
[03:34] <kubuntero> Large factor why YAho and MSN gave up :)
[03:35] <Linux_Galore> kubuntero: with google chat you can have your own local server setup so you dont have to relay through google just to PM down stairs
[03:35] <kubuntero> I know ;)
[03:36] <Linux_Galore> kubuntero: I dont trust MSN and Yahoo, they will happily hand over all your data for no logical reason to anyone who asks for it
[03:37] <kubuntero> Regardless I have two teachers on MSN who I'd love to chat to through Yahoo
[03:37] <Thehound666> yeah but legally questionable stuff I use IRC+SSL+SSH+Fish
[03:37] <Linux_Galore> right now there is a guy sitting in prison in china because he is a pro democracy supported getting beaten up and tortured thanks to Yahoo
[03:38] <Jucato> hm... getting -offtopic guys
[03:38] <Thehound666> lol I'm in there if they want to follow
[03:38] <Schuenemann> MSN sucks
[03:39] <Daisuke_Ido> amen
[03:39] <Thehound666> I meant
[03:39] <Thehound666> !offtopic
[03:39] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:39] <Thehound666> I'm in there too
[03:39] <Thehound666> :)
[03:39] <Schuenemann> I would, but it's almost midnight
[03:39] <Daisuke_Ido> i'd even rather use the AIM protocol (even on windows i refused to actually use the aim client, opting for gaim instead)
[03:39] <endo602> can someone help me set up an ident?
[03:40] <stdin_> endo602: why do you need it?
[03:40] <Linux_Galore> endo602: ??
[03:40] <kubuntero> endo602: Press Tab?
[03:40] <Daisuke_Ido> but after switching to kubuntu, i've gone with kopete, as it's a fine client that works well with everything i need
[03:41] <Linux_Galore> I dont like the UI on kopete
[03:41] <Schuenemann> me neither
[03:41] <kubuntero> I don't like loads of crap on Kopete but It's still a baby so I give it teething marks
[03:41] <Linux_Galore> its amazing konversation has the UI right (they basically copied gaim)
[03:42] <Lam_> i love konversation
[03:42] <kubuntero> Linux_Galore: Konversation?
[03:42] <Lam_> it looks better than mirc, but it's not as useful imo
[03:42] <Linux_Galore> kubuntero: irc client
[03:42] <Schuenemann> I agree
[03:42] <Schuenemann> mirc is more useful
[03:42] <Linux_Galore> Schuenemann: wait till  more plugins appear
[03:42] <kubuntero> I know I'm using it :-) Just trying to see how it releates to gaim
[03:42] <Schuenemann> I hope so
[03:43] <kubuntero> stdin_: remember lines on Alt+tab?
[03:43] <Linux_Galore> kubuntero: were talking about the UI in kopete and gaim
[03:43] <Schuenemann> and I hope nobody makes that stupid plugin that message the channel with the sound he's using
[03:43] <Linux_Galore> kubuntero: konversation is more like gaim
[03:43] <hawk_> well bye everyone.... thank you for your help
[03:43] <Schuenemann> messages*
[03:43] <Lam_> i like kopete's gui, but gaim has so many more features :(
[03:43] <Lam_> i'd rather use kopete but gaim's just more useful
[03:43] <Linux_Galore> Lam_: its more mature
[03:43] <Schuenemann> since I only have msn now, I'm using amsn
[03:44] <Schuenemann> but its GUI is VERY slow
[03:44] <stdin_> kubuntero: not quite :( , although it's supposed to, but it may be missing some lib somewhere, but it dose on switching desktops
[03:44] <Linux_Galore> give it time, konversation and kopete will add the features that users ask for
[03:44] <Lam_> stdin_: do you have an estimate as to how long it should take to run fsck -f -c? i calculated 15 hours :-/
[03:44] <kubuntero> stdin_: complain to Sho_ :)
[03:45] <stdin_> Lam_: It depends on the size your partition
[03:45] <Lam_> stdin_: mine's roughly 170GB
[03:45] <kubuntero> Rob-West: From many years of experince I can tell you it hates you too
[03:45] <stdin_> kubuntero: I'm gonna file a bug report anyway, because i _really_ want that feature :P
[03:46] <kubuntero> The world and it's dog wants that feature
[03:46] <Linux_Galore> Lam_: it depends one the hardisk how fast fsck happens
[03:46] <stdin_> Lam_: could take a *long* time, have a nap
[03:46] <Linux_Galore> Lam_: also ext3 isnt the fastest to run fsck anyway
[03:47] <stdin_> Linux_Galore: it's checking for bad blacks, it's gonna take a while :p
[03:47] <Linux_Galore> stdin_:  rebuilt my ZFS partition (120Gb)  dam its fast
[03:48] <Linux_Galore> stdin_: totally blows ext3 away for fsxk
[03:48] <Linux_Galore> fsck
[03:49] <stdin_> Linux_Galore: ZSF, don't remember that one?
[03:49] <stdin_> XFS maybe, but noy ZFS
[03:49] <mueslix> stdin_: zfs is sun's iirc
[03:49] <Linux_Galore> stdin_: its the new super duper fs from Sun, runs on BSD and OpenSolaris (nexenta)
[03:50] <stdin_> hmm, off to wikipedia I go :P
[03:50] <Jucato> anyone know the command to display disk usage, but only show the directories, not recursively into the directories?
[03:50] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: df -Th ?
[03:50] <stdin_> Jucato: du -sh dirname/ (for human readable)
[03:50] <Jucato> hm.. trying
[03:50] <Linux_Galore> ooh the directories too hmm
[03:50] <stdin_> -s = summery
[03:51] <Jucato> for example, I just want to see the total size of /var, /usr, /boot, etc
[03:51] <Jucato> something like ls -l but shows the real sizes of those directories... without displaying the contents of those directories...
[03:52] <stdin_> Jucato: df -sh /var /usr /boot
[03:52] <Jucato> hm... thanks I'll try that
[03:52] <Jucato> er.. no -s option
[03:52] <Kr4t05> Okay, so I have a question for you guys.
[03:52] <matthew> anyone know what crossover-office is?
[03:53] <Schuenemann> openoffice?
[03:53] <Schuenemann> crossover is the name?
[03:53] <stdin_> matthew: it's the "pro" version
[03:53] <matthew> ah i see.
[03:53] <Schuenemann> is it paid?
[03:53] <Kr4t05> Earlier, I tried to resize my EXT2 partition to make room for some new games I bought for Windows (I have a weakness, this is true.) However, when I try to use (QT/G)Parted from the LiveCD, it hangs.
[03:54] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: du -hs directory_name
[03:54] <mueslix> Kr4t05: wouldn't suggest doing that anyways;-)
[03:54] <stdin_> Schuenemann: ifaik the normal one and the pro are both paid versions, just -office has better support for MS Office
[03:54] <Kr4t05> mueslix: What should I do, then?
[03:55] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: thanks
[03:55] <Ash-Fox> Ever since I upgraded Avahi I have had problems resolving things in various programs. How does one install a older version of something again under apt-get?
[03:55] <stdin_> Kr4t05: try using the gparted cd
[03:55] <mueslix> Kr4t05: get a new hdd or a wii/360
[03:55] <Zero_Kelvin> Hiyo. Just wondering if anyone knows how to get the Embeddable Image Viewer in Konqueror to automatically loop animated gifs. For example, I'm on 4chan, checking out a mucked with version of that squirrel from Move Your Feet blowing stuff up and the gif loads, displaying each frame as it comes in, but doesn't replay it when the download is complete. I could use the Gwenview component, but, yeah...
[03:55] <stdin_> Ash-Fox: apt-get install package=version
[03:56] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: made me have to think lol
[03:56] <Ash-Fox> stdin, thanks
[03:56] <Kr4t05> mueslix: I don't have $250+ to spend on a Wii or 360, and even if I did, there are some PC games the I prefer to their console counterparts.
[03:56] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: ehehe I was scratching my head too much already....
[03:56] <Kr4t05> mueslix: And, I also play some PC-only games.
[03:56] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: du  is one of those tools you forget
[03:56] <Kr4t05> So, thanks, but no thanks.
[03:56] <mueslix> hehe
[03:56] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: yeah... I was always thinking of df df df
[03:57] <Kr4t05> Also, I already have a 150GB hard drive for Linux. Hence the reason I wanted to resize it.
[03:57] <mueslix> just saying, wouldn't go to resize my partitions
[03:57] <Kr4t05> mueslix: It's always worked for me before. That's why I'm presenting you with this problem, now.
[03:57] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: I had to open man because I forgot the switches
[03:57] <Kr4t05> Logic dictates that, if it works once, it should work multiple times.
[03:57] <mueslix> Kr4t05: but yeah as stdin mentioned, try the livecd
[03:58] <mueslix> Kr4t05: just like it dictates: it failed once, i'll never try it again ;-)
[03:58] <morghanphoenix> When your system crashes and you have to hard reboot, it comes back up saying kontact is allready running, how to you stop it so you can start it again?
[03:58] <Kr4t05> mueslix: I intend to, but not until after I chew you out. ;P
[03:58] <Linux_Galore> morghanphoenix: killall -9 kontact
[03:59] <mueslix> morghanphoenix: there is a locking file stuck on your hdd
[03:59] <mueslix> delete it and you'll be able to restart it
[03:59] <Linux_Galore> morghanphoenix: or do it the windows way and use  kdesu ksysguard
[03:59] <morghanphoenix> no processes killed
[03:59] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: nope, he already rebooted.
[03:59] <mueslix> Linux_Galore: read what he's saying :P
[03:59] <Linux_Galore> morghanphoenix: aaah its a lock file issue
[04:01] <morghanphoenix> so, just remove the lock file like when adept crashes?
[04:01] <Linux_Galore> ~/.kde/share/config/kresources/contact
[04:01] <Linux_Galore> from memory
[04:01] <Linux_Galore> should have a lock file there
[04:02] <morghanphoenix> stdrc is the oly file listed
[04:02] <morghanphoenix> and I have hiddens shown
[04:03] <draik> I can't seem to get audio to come out of my laptop
[04:03] <intelikey> Linux_Galore contact or kontact ?
[04:03] <morghanphoenix> kontact
[04:03] <mueslix> morghanphoenix: is it kontact itself or kmail?
[04:03] <mueslix> or some other component of kontact
[04:03] <morghanphoenix> kontact it says, the warning regards kmail losing emails.
[04:04] <draik> Hey there inteki
[04:04] <mueslix> the kmail lock file would be ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/lock
[04:04] <draik> Here there intelikey
[04:04] <intelikey> here there draik
[04:04] <draik> intelikey: everywhere a draik draik???
[04:04] <Linux_Galore> no the directory is called "contact"
[04:05] <morghanphoenix> Kontact already seems to be running on another display on this machine. Running Kontact more than once is not supported by the Metakit backend and can cause the loss of archived articles and crashes at startup. You should disable the archive for now unless you are sure that Kontact is not already running.
[04:05] <ctothej> how do I install grub onto another hard drive?
[04:05] <morghanphoenix> Force access or disable archive are the options
[04:05] <Jucato> !grub
[04:05] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:05] <Zero_Kelvin> And if anyone's wondering why I don't just use the Gwenview component it's because I can't view an animated gif until the whole thing loads and for some reason several gifs I've tried to save (not by right clicking on teh image, it's not an option in the menu) by clicking on Location -> Save As will only give me the option to save one frame as a PNG. (?!)
[04:05] <intelikey> ctothej sudo grub-install (address)
[04:06] <Linux_Galore> morghanphoenix: can be one of two things, something is still running in the backround ie check with "kdesu ksysguard"  or a lock file is active
[04:06] <draik> Jucato: How is it going?
[04:06] <draik> Jucato: I still haven't gotten my laptop's audio to work
[04:06] <draik> :(
[04:07] <Zero_Kelvin> I'm trying to keep a nice and simple unified desktop environment thing going here by not installing anything I don't need from outside the KDE family you know. :)
[04:07] <ctothej> Intellkey: is (address) something like "/dev/sdv"?
[04:07] <ctothej> sdc rather
[04:07] <Jucato> draik: doing fine here... sad to hear you have no sound yet :(
[04:07] <zograf> What time will be compiling mplayer on barton 3200 + (sorry i am use el. transleytor) ^_^
[04:07] <intelikey> ctothej yes   or  (hd0)  in grub nomanclature
[04:07] <draik> Jucato: Yeah. I want to know when I get a message on my IMs, but no audio
[04:08] <matthew> how do i read rar files? sudo apt-get instal ???
[04:08] <ctothej> Intellkey: how do I find out which hd# /dev/sdc is?
[04:08] <intelikey> ctothej cat /boot/grub/device*
[04:08] <Jucato> matthew: install "unrar"
[04:08] <matthew> ty
[04:08] <morghanphoenix> no kontact or kmail in the sysguard
[04:08] <intelikey> !rar
[04:08] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[04:09] <ctothej> Intellkey: great thanks. going to do that now.
[04:09] <morghanphoenix> should I update the database and slocate lock?
[04:10] <Zero_Kelvin> Unrar-free gave me trouble with Ark not being able to find the unrar executable and several Rar 3.0 archives failing to open. Use unrar-free only if you're really uptight about free software, in my opinion.
[04:10] <intelikey> morghanphoenix find ~/ -name lock
[04:10] <morghanphoenix> ack, kabc, kmail, akregator & opera all have lock files.
[04:11] <morghanphoenix> What is kabc?
[04:11] <Linux_Galore> what makes me suspicious about it being a lock file issue is kontact usually tells you if its a lock file issue
[04:11] <mueslix> morghanphoenix: the k addressbook
[04:11] <Jucato> KDE adressbook c____
[04:11] <mueslix> delete the kabc, kmail and akregator lock files
[04:12] <mueslix> and kontact should start up again
[04:12] <angrydill> I'm having a big problem with kmail (1.9.1) right now.  Whenever it connects to my IMAP server, it deletes all messages in the inbox!  No problem with T-Bird as the client.  Any ideas?
[04:13] <Linux_Galore> kcontrol really needs a lockfile manager
[04:13] <matthew> !sh
[04:13] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[04:13] <morghanphoenix> I installed the ati card and it keeps crashing on me every time I try to run anything that uses direct rendering
[04:13] <Linux_Galore> angrydill: aaah you havent told it to keep a local copy
[04:14] <morghanphoenix> Never had problems with lock files untill I actually had to reboot the thing
[04:14] <morghanphoenix> Got it, Kontact back up and running
[04:14] <morghanphoenix> Thanks
[04:14] <morghanphoenix> Stupid ATi, dropping support for my video card
[04:14] <intelikey> system managers master key#  sudo find / -name lock -exec rm {} \;      <<<< not a real good idea.
[04:15] <BluesKaj> which card , morghanphoenix?
[04:15] <morghanphoenix> Radeon 7000
[04:15] <dtg> anybody got an idea why it won't connect automatically to my router with DHCP, wired, on startup? I have to manually go to Network Settings and disable/activate eth0, and then it connects
[04:15] <method|> when i try to open up adept i get this error: Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[04:15] <method|> even when i restart
[04:16] <method|> i keep getting the same error
[04:16] <draik> dtg: check both regular user and Administrator Mode
[04:16] <morghanphoenix> Upgraded from the GeeForce 4000 because it was a better card, now I don't have direct rendering and I crash when I rin 3d games.
[04:16] <method|> how do I close whatever process has my database locked?
[04:16] <draik> method|: CTRL+ESC
[04:16] <dtg> draik, what?
[04:16] <Jucato> !adept crash fix | method|
[04:16] <ubotu> method|: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[04:17] <method|> cool thanks
[04:17] <kubuntero> morghanphoenix: You are golden :)
[04:17] <intelikey> !adeptcrashfix
[04:17] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[04:17] <morghanphoenix> eh?
[04:17] <kubuntero> morghanphoenix: The opensource drivers work great with that card
[04:17] <BluesKaj> http://www.marteydodoo.com/2006/08/29/installing-binary-ati-drivers-on-ubuntu-edgy/
[04:17] <draik> dtg: nevermind, I forgot there is only Administrator Mode for accessing the Network section
[04:17] <dtg> yes
[04:17] <draik> dtg: sorry.
[04:17] <dtg> :(
[04:17] <kubuntero> Zero_Kelvin: What's the problem?
[04:18] <dtg> anybody got an idea why it won't connect automatically to my router with DHCP, wired, on startup? I have to manually go to Network Settings and disable/activate eth0, and then it connects
[04:18] <method|> Jucato: what does that command do exactly?
[04:18] <morghanphoenix> The ATi drivers from the howto?
[04:18] <Jucato> method|: it unlocks your APT database
[04:19] <Jucato> method|: so that you could use APT and Adept again
[04:20] <Zero_Kelvin> kubuntero: I want to view animated gifs in Konqueror after they've downloaded, i.e. I want them to loop when viewed by the Embeddable Image Viewer, OR I'd like Gwenview's Embeddable KPart to allow me to save them as gif's and not one frame PNG's. Getting either of those things to happen would be nice without me having to diddle about with viewing Gwenview Kpart, then switching to Embeddable to save.
[04:20] <matthew> !sh
[04:20] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[04:20] <kubuntero> Zero_Kelvin: can you give an example?
[04:21] <angrydill> Linux_Galore: is keeping a local copy an option in the kmail account settings?  I can't seem to find it.  Thanks.
[04:22] <kubuntero> use y-Windows!! It's one letter better
[04:23] <morghanphoenix> I like xscreensaver better, more nice little screensaves, but it always has writing visable through my screensaver when I try to use it with KDE.
[04:23] <Zero_Kelvin> kubuntero: Okay, say I view an animated gif on its own. If the embeddable viewing Kpart I have set is the Embeddable Image Viewer then I see each frame of the gif as it loads, then it stops and does not loop, the Konqeror throbber still rotating away. If I have Konqeror using Gwenview's Kpart then the image loads and loops (but doesn't animate until it's all downloaded) and when I try to save it with a right click it doesn't offer a save option.
[04:23] <Zero_Kelvin> Clicking Location -> Save As results in it only offering me an ability to save as a static PNG.
[04:23] <Zero_Kelvin> BRB, going for a smoke.
[04:24] <kubuntero> Zero_Kelvin: URL?
[04:25] <ctothej> Intelikey: Tried rebooting and grub is telling me that it cant mount the partition...
[04:25] <morghanphoenix> I like lilo myself.
[04:25] <intelikey> ctothej what is the partition ?
[04:25] <kubuntero> I miss Lilo :(
[04:26] <intelikey> i use lilo
[04:26] <farkr> slackware uses lilo still default
[04:26] <intelikey> !lilo
[04:26] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[04:26] <kubuntero> RIP lilo
[04:26] <ctothej> Intelikey: grub is looking for /dev/sdc1
[04:26] <morghanphoenix> My slackware system uses lilo
[04:27] <intelikey> ctothej fdisk -l /dev/sdc
[04:27] <morghanphoenix> It's set up with boot themes and runs at full-screen, full-colour
[04:27] <intelikey> let me see sdc1
[04:27] <Zero_Kelvin> kubuntero: Any animated gif. They loop in Firefox, not Konqueror's Embeddable Kpart.
[04:27] <ctothej> Intelikey: I installed grub on /dev/sdc , which is hd2
[04:27] <morghanphoenix> Looks really purtee and actually gives me time to choose my boot partition by default
[04:27] <kubuntero> Zero_Kelvin: still gimmie a URL so we are looking at the same thing
[04:28] <morghanphoenix> sdc is the 2nd hard drive?
[04:28] <ctothej> Intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1134/
[04:29] <kubuntero> morghanphoenix: Possibly third
[04:30] <Zero_Kelvin> kubuntero: Strange. I went to get you a URL - http://cgi.4chan.org/gif/src/1168430540964.gif (guy falling off of a tower) - and now that I've downloaded it once and it's pulled it from cache to view it again, it's looping.
[04:30] <matthew> i have a folder  named Linux programs, how would i type that in konsole? cd ~/Linux progams dosent work ><
[04:30] <kubuntero> does kscreensaver even have a web page :-(
[04:30] <Zero_Kelvin> kubuntero: Looping in the Embeddable KPart I mean.
[04:30] <morghanphoenix> hda 1st hdd, hdb 2nd hdd, sda 3rd hdd, sdb 4th hdd.
[04:30] <intelikey> ctothej hmmm   and  grep /dev/sdc /boot/grub/device* | grep hd2
[04:30] <BluesKaj> it's a folder , cd only works on files
[04:31] <ctothej> Intelikey: " (hd2)   /dev/sdc "
[04:31] <kubuntero> matthew: A) tab is your friend
[04:31] <kubuntero> matthew: once you learn that you will see the answer for b) :)
[04:32] <matthew> ty, love tab :D
[04:32] <Zero_Kelvin> kubuntero: However, the tab is labelled - "GIF Image - 0x0 Pixels", just FYI.
[04:32] <ctothej> Intelikey: grub came up, so it installed fine, but when it tried to boot the OS, that is when the error came up.
[04:32] <kubuntero> My tab is labeled some long number
[04:33] <ctothej> Intelikey: grub boots fine from its install on /dev/sda , which is how I got back in.
[04:33] <kubuntero> ok now it's named longnnumber.gif 238x144
[04:33] <intelikey> ctothej ok that's the problem maybe.   you need to add  "" (hd2,0)   /dev/sdc1 "  to that file and use (hd2,0) as the address in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:33] <kubuntero> matthew: XD
[04:33] <intelikey> ctothej and you should get a second openion on that.    i'm not a grub'y dude  :)
[04:34] <Zero_Kelvin> kubuntero: Most of those boards rename the files once they've been uploaded. Just don't go wandering if you're prudish - there's a lot of naughtiness amongst the fun and wierd stuff.
[04:34] <Linux_Galore> angrydill: kmail will delete any messages on the IMAP server inbox that doesnt match up
[04:34] <intelikey> grub          GRUB           help ctothej  with grub.
[04:35] <BluesKaj> !GAG
[04:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about GAG - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:36] <Zero_Kelvin> kubuntero: Just restarted Konqueror and am downloading two more gifs that I haven't seen before to see if they loop or just stop with the K throbber still rotating.
[04:36] <Linux_Galore> angrydill: setup a "disconected imap" account
[04:36] <ctothej> Intelikey: thanks for the help thus far.
[04:36] <BluesKaj> Graphical Boot manager : http://gag.sourceforge.net/
[04:36] <kubuntero> ok
[04:37] <angrydill> Thanks, Galore, I'll try that.  I wasn't sure what the "Disconnected" Imap accounts were used for, so didn't try
[04:38] <stdin> bah, just use the GRand Unified Bootloader
[04:38] <D3javu> Yikes, kubuntu installer still at configuring apt 82% after 10 minutes :-/
[04:38] <Linux_Galore> angrydill: yes, you can have both a a normal imap and disconnected and you can select it under the download button
[04:38] <matthew> is crossover officer pro same thing as the normal crossover that let you instal windows programs?
[04:39] <intelikey> ctothej also  make sure that the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst has the correct root=
[04:39] <angrydill> Thx, Galore!
[04:40] <farkr> this is how i want to partition (i think, after a week of researching). can anyone tell me if this looks good or if theres any problems before i do it: http://pastebin.ca/312722
[04:40] <method|> when i try to install a package thru adept i get this error: There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[04:40] <Linux_Galore> angrydill: I only started using kmail a week ago, I usually use Tbird or Evolution
[04:40] <method|> actually im trying to remove a package
[04:41] <angrydill> matthew:  where you can't use a tab (scripts, etc.) you can either use:   cd "Linux Programs"   (with quotes) or  cd Linux
[04:41] <angrydill> er cd Linux\ Programs
[04:42] <intelikey> farkr /var == 1.5g   too small.
[04:42] <Linux_Galore> method|: dpkg -i package_name
[04:42] <farkr> intelikey even for a single user desktop?
[04:42] <angrydill> I hate that the backslash is so near enter on this kbd :(
[04:42] <stdin> method|: try and remove it in konsole, you'll get a more descriptive error
[04:42] <farkr> angrydill i have the worst keyboard in the world it has a 'power off' button by the escape key and it wont disable
[04:42] <Zero_Kelvin> kubuntero: Downloaded a small gif. It stopped animating, throbber still spinning, but when I hit reload it just looped it. Tried it with another one and this one started to redownload. This would be less annoying if there was someconsistency to the behavior.
[04:43] <kubuntero> Argh This Gif is huge
[04:43] <farkr> if i accidently press it i go byeybye, have twice already :)
[04:43] <ctothej> The command "df /boot" gives me a "mounted on" value of "/" and not "/boot". is this ok?
[04:43] <kubuntero> How do you clear cache?
[04:43] <stdin> ctothej: that's fine
[04:43] <Ash-Fox> Argh, I can't even downgrade to a older version of avahi, because it just isn't the repositories anymore
[04:43] <method|> error processing sun-java5-bin (--remove):
[04:43] <method|>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[04:43] <method|>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[04:43] <ctothej> stdin: nice. thanks.
[04:43] <intelikey> farkr yes.   var is where the package cache is as well as some very important system files.   also the mail.   as well as apache if you run apache
[04:43] <method|> how do I reinstall it if i cant remove it?
[04:43] <stdin> Ash-Fox: what version want it?
[04:44] <farkr> intelikey how big should i make it 3gb?
[04:44] <Ash-Fox> stdin, 0.6.13-2ubuntu2.3
[04:44] <farkr> maybe ill make tmp and var both 3gb to be safe
[04:44] <intelikey> farkr at least 2g but unless you have a large website in mind then 3g is more than plenty.
[04:44] <stdin> method|: to remove "sudo apt-get remove package" to install "sudo apt-get install package" to reinstall without uninstalling first "sudo apt-get --reinstall install packag"
[04:45] <stdin> Ash-Fox: and the package name ?
[04:45] <farkr> intelikey do you think it's good to make those partitions reiserfs ?
[04:45] <arkanabar> Somebody mentioned earlier that O'Reilly's "Hacking Ubuntu" was available as a free download, but I can't find the darned thing.  Anyone got a link?
[04:46] <intelikey> frank_ i wouldn't var  but some would argue that it's safe.   as to tmp  that would be fine.
[04:46] <intelikey> farkr ^
[04:46] <Linux_Galore> kubuntero: apt-get clean
[04:46] <Zero_Kelvin> kubuntero: Looking at both gifs in Konqueror as File Manager straight off of the hard drive and they loop fine.
[04:46] <kubuntero> Linux_Galore: Konqueror's web cache :)
[04:47] <angrydill> Galore: I use TBird and like it. I just hate having separate address books for KDE and Thunderbird.  :(
[04:47] <Linux_Galore> kubuntero: aah
[04:47] <stdin> brb
[04:48] <Ash-Fox> stdin, well, assuming I got this right: avahi-daemon, libavahi-client3, libavahi-client3-dev, libavahi-common-data, libavahi-common3, libavahi-compat-libdnssd1, libavahi-core4, libavahi-glib1
[04:48] <Linux_Galore> angrydill: yeah, and Thunderbird hasnt got an intergrated contacts manager either aka kmail can be intergrated with kontacts (just run kontacts no kmail to start it all up)
[04:48] <Ash-Fox> Since the recent libavahi upgrade has totally screwed up DNS resolving for me.
[04:48] <Linux_Galore> s/no/not/
[04:50] <stdin> Ash-Fox: do you know the *exact* package name?
[04:51] <angrydill> Thanks, Linux_Galore.  Once I get that IMAP setup fixed, I'll be 100% Kmail/Kontact
[04:51] <Ash-Fox> stdin, those are the exact package names
[04:51] <Linux_Galore> kubuntero: open Konqueror  Settings -> Configure Konqueror   go to Cache  then just click on "clear cache"
[04:51] <stdin> !find libavahi
[04:51] <arkanabar> Somebody mentioned earlier that O'Reilly's "Hacking Ubuntu" was available as a free download, but I can't find the darned thing.  Anyone got a link?
[04:51] <ubotu> Found: libavahi1.0-cil, libavahi-client-dev, libavahi-client3, libavahi-common-data, libavahi-common-dev (and 13 others)
[04:51] <stdin> Ash-Fox: as you can see, there are a few packages with libavahi in it
[04:52] <angrydill> Mandrake's "urpmi" install command allows you to type only part of the pkg name.  Any way to do that with apt?
[04:52] <Ash-Fox> stdin, however I know which ones are installed on my system, and I gave them to you.
[04:53] <stdin> angrydill: use tab completion: apt-get install pack<tab> goes to apt-get install package
[04:53] <intelikey> angrydill apt-cache search 'string'       and it will list any and all matches.
[04:53] <intelikey> angrydill or you can wild card the install command but you probably don't want that.     sudo apt-get install blah*
[04:54] <fulat2k> hi folks, any way i can get intel HD audio is support in kubuntu 6.10?
[04:54] <intelikey> stdin doesn't that assume bash_completion enabled ?
[04:54] <stdin> Ash-Fox: when did you give them?
[04:55] <Ash-Fox> stdin, huh?
[04:55] <stdin> intelikey: I dunno, it should be, I know I didn't have to enable it
[04:55] <Ash-Fox> 04:48 <Ash-Fox> stdin, well, assuming I got this right: avahi-daemon, libavahi-client3, libavahi-client3-dev, libavahi-common-data, libavahi-common3, libavahi-compat-libdnssd1, libavahi-core4, libavahi-glib1
[04:55] <stdin> Ash-Fox: I wasn't here then, I had to restart konversation then :P
[04:55] <intelikey> stdin hmmm  not default enabled on dapper
[04:56] <stdin> intelikey: it was in edgy, and is in feisty
[04:56] <Ash-Fox> Okay :P
[04:56] <intelikey> hmmmm
[04:58] <stdin> Ash-Fox: I've looked and you're right, the only version close to what you wanted is 0.6.13-2ubuntu2.4 (soo close tho)
[04:59] <Zero_Kelvin> kubuntero: Okay, for now I've turned on KGet and am downloading animated gifs with that after previewing them with the Gwenview KPart - a convoluted and silly thing I shouldn't need to do. :/
[04:59] <Ash-Fox> stdin, only problem is that, that particular version broke dns resolving in firefox, opera, wine :/
[04:59] <kubuntero> Ha ha. They all seem to work fine for me
[04:59] <Zero_Kelvin> kubuntero: What version of Konqueror?
[04:59] <Ash-Fox> (dig, host, konqueror etc. still work fine)
[05:00] <kubuntero> 3.5.5
[05:00] <Zero_Kelvin> kubuntero: Ditto.
[05:08] <intelikey> hmmmm i wonder why this guy is trying to get into my box ????
[05:08] <stdin> intelikey: ssh bruteforce attack ?
[05:09] <intelikey> ssh not running.
[05:09] <Zero_Kelvin> Does anyone know if there are actual otions that can be set somewhere to control the playing or non-playing of animated gifs in Konqueror? I noticed a lot of wishlist stuff about animated gif control for older versions of Konqueror on Google when I was looking for an answer to solve my annoyance.
[05:09] <intelikey> ping me
[05:10] <stdin> hmm, ping attack, that's an old one
[05:10] <intelikey> yeah.
 anal?
[05:10] <intelikey> ok that's over.
[05:11] <intelikey> back later.
[05:12] <desijays> dear fellow ubuntu users, can someone please help me to install firefox on my new kubuntu installation. Im using amd64 and i can't install the available deb file
[05:12] <Rob-West> sudo apt-get install firefox
[05:13] <BluesKaj> sudo dpkg -i "the firefoxfilename.deb"
[05:14] <desijays> dear mate, it says it needs to install an additional 37 mb of files. Is that okie?
[05:14] <BluesKaj>  yup
[05:15] <stdin> isn't firefox on the amd64 version ???
[05:15] <desijays> unfortunately no mate. it isn't. :(
[05:15] <Dr_willis> huh..
[05:15] <desijays> i only have something called koncurer. it is very very slow
[05:15] <Dr_willis> !info firefox
[05:15] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.1+0dfsg-0ubuntu0.6.10 (edgy), package size 8992 kB, installed size 28580 kB
[05:16] <Dr_willis> i think ya may want to fire up the package manager and check again.
[05:16] <stdin> then how come I see a load of amd64 debs here  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/
[05:16] <Dr_willis> instead of doing this song and dance. :)
[05:16] <BluesKaj> maybe not on the 64vers
[05:17] <stdin> so what's firefox-dbg_1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.3-0ubuntu3_amd64.deb  ??
[05:17] <Dr_willis>  firefox_2.0+0dfsg-0ubuntu3_amd64.deb
[05:17] <BluesKaj> it seems i had to install it seperately when i tried the 64 bit dapper
[05:17] <desijays> i don't why, but when i search for it, i never seem to get what i want. thanks stdin mate
[05:17] <Dr_willis> apt-get update and search again
[05:18] <stdin> this seems to be the most recent version http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/firefox-dbg_2.0.0.1+0dfsg-0ubuntu0.6.10_amd64.deb
[05:19] <desijays> do you think it would be better if i install using the deb file or just apt-get?
[05:19] <Dr_willis> desijays,  always apt-get
[05:20] <desijays> okie willis mate. i think its downloading now.. shows a list of files and lots of %. i hope that is normal.
[05:20] <mortici> anyone wanna educate me on how to install kubuntu on a raid 0?
[05:20] <desijays> Thanks you all very much
[05:20] <LameBMX> !raid
[05:20] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[05:20] <LameBMX> !fakeraid
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fakeraid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <LameBMX> !softwareraid
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about softwareraid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <AndyBe> I did it here, but it doesent make sence on this old machine... lol -.
[05:21] <BluesKaj> sacktime
[05:21] <BluesKaj> nite all
[05:21] <AndyBe> me too, BluesKaj
[05:21] <Linux_Galore> mortici: thats a "book question"
[05:21] <stdin> LameBMX: the raid howto should at least link to the page you want
[05:22] <AndyBe> search for debian.
[05:22] <AndyBe> I found it there.
[05:22] <Zero_Kelvin> Outta here, cya's later.
[05:22] <Linux_Galore> !raid
[05:22] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[05:22] <AndyBe> I used the server
[05:22] <LameBMX> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/fakeraidedgy .... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/fakeraidhowto
[05:22] <AndyBe> but i think it is bin able
[05:22] <SpAwN> !filesharing
[05:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about filesharing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:23] <Linux_Galore> !p2p
[05:23] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[05:23] <SpAwN> !fileshare
[05:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fileshare - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:23] <AndyBe> if you make not a partition make a raid on each hardisk.
[05:23] <AndyBe> reboot better
[05:23] <LameBMX> stdin ... if someone gave me bot axx i would link it up lol
[05:23] <Linux_Galore> Linux works better though with raid5/10   0/1  throttles the kernel too much
[05:23] <AndyBe> on this you can make one partionen, but don't forget the swapfile! - not in soft raid !!!
[05:24] <SpAwN> what do i need to share files from my kubuntu box to my other linux box...i want to share my home folder on my kubuntu box and mount it on my other linuxu box(mandriva)
[05:24] <LameBMX> eh .. im stuck on a fakeraid 0 lol ... still a ton faster than a single device
[05:24] <AndyBe> nfs you need !
[05:24] <Linux_Galore> SpAwN: nothing really
[05:24] <lincoln> hey whats up, i'm getting an error using apt-get .. it keeps saying that all of the servers have an IP address of 1.0.0.0
[05:24] <AndyBe> or simple make an ftp.
[05:24] <AndyBe> ..stupid idea.
[05:24] <stdin> !samba | SpAwN
[05:24] <ubotu> SpAwN: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:24] <desijays> a silly question....time waster... how come downloads are much faster in kubuntu than xp? i never got 40 k downlods in xp. but in kubuntu it stays at 38 to 40..
[05:24] <stdin> used for file sharing over LAN ^^^
[05:24] <AndyBe> samba, hm from linux to linux...
[05:25] <SpAwN> when i goto system settings and sharing its all grayed out(even after i goto adminsrator mode)
[05:25] <AndyBe> no
[05:25] <lincoln> hey whats up, i'm getting an error using apt-get .. it keeps saying that all of the servers have an IP address of 1.0.0.0
[05:25] <lincoln> shit sorry
[05:25] <SpAwN> stdin, is samba better then nfs?
[05:25] <Dr_willis> desijays,  download speeds can vary vastly depending on servers and other things... windows also seems to lie about the #'s at times.
[05:25] <stdin> unless you want yo get in to the goriness of setting up nfs
[05:25] <AndyBe> no, normal not.
[05:25] <LameBMX> SpAwN, you can also use ssh ...
[05:25] <Linux_Galore> SpAwN: you can setup an on the fly share right click on the directory you want to share -> properties    click on Share then Setup Share
[05:26] <AndyBe> only if your mixed with Window$ Boxes.
[05:26] <Linux_Galore> SpAwN: sorry click on the Sharing Tab
[05:26] <SpAwN> Linux_Galore, when i do that its all grayed out...i cant do anything
[05:26] <stdin> sshfs is good to
[05:26] <stdin> !sshfs
[05:26] <AndyBe> nfs is not hard to learn. ... google it with debian nfs installation.
[05:26] <ubotu> sshfs: filesystem client based on SSH File Transfer Protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6-1 (edgy), package size 29 kB, installed size 116 kB
[05:26] <AndyBe> ssh, is shell like not a mount.
[05:26] <mortici> damn it i thought it would be easy to install on my raid0 :(
[05:27] <AndyBe> mortici, it is eay.
[05:27] <SpAwN> well what do uthink the easiest/more reliable way to go is.
[05:27] <stdin> AndyBe: did you not just read what the bot said?
[05:27] <SpAwN> like a good medium
[05:27] <desijays> all mates who helped. thank u. firefox up and running :)
[05:27] <Linux_Galore> SpAwN: other method is to install open-ssh-server and the you can access the machine from within konqueror via  fish://192.168.etc
[05:27] <stdin> desijays: happy browsing :P
[05:27] <mortici> AndyBe: right... i have a windows partition i wish to be undamaged :/
[05:28] <AndyBe> hands up mortici.
[05:28] <SpAwN> i just want a folder in like /mnt ie /mnt/samba or we/
[05:28] <Linux_Galore> SpAwN: the ssh-server method is what I use and I put links on the remote machine
[05:28] <Linux_Galore> SpAwN: sorry "links on the desktop"
[05:28] <AndyBe> SpAwN:  read about nfs, its not to hard.
[05:29] <stdin> !nfs
[05:29] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[05:29] <Dr_willis> SpAwN,  thats doable.. theres  several ways to do it.. and what is best.. depends on your exact setup
[05:29] <mortici> AndyBe: i put my hands up
[05:29] <Dr_willis> SpAwN,  for a Linux to linux machine. NFS is proberly fastest. for long term shares.
[05:29] <SpAwN> Dr_willis, ahh yea i kinda have heard that and leaning toward nfs
[05:29] <AndyBe> mortici: that's why I got a seperate computer to play with. damm yesterday I loose my imap server here because of that.
[05:30] <Dr_willis> SpAwN,  but for some quick transfering of files.. ssh and the konqueror use of fish:// is handy
[05:31] <SpAwN> ahh k thanks guys :-)
[05:31] <mortici> bah ill just buy a secondary HDD and use that
[05:31] <mortici> my laptop runs kubuntu just fine
[05:31] <AndyBe> * got a little sleep *
[05:31] <stdin> I like sshfs, because I already have ssh setup, and I'm lazy :P
[05:31] <Dr_willis> 'fuse' is a often overlooked and darn handy tool.
[05:31] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:31] <Linux_Galore> stdin: I found the built in share thing in KDE by accident, I didnt even know it was there
[05:32] <stdin> shame !fuse only talks about the ntfs fuse part
[05:32] <Dr_willis> stdin,  yea  - they need to fix up  a better wiki/factoid
[05:32] <Minataku> Aw, man...
[05:32] <Linux_Galore> I setup on the fly shared with the built in share server now and again
[05:32] <stdin> Linux_Galore: you need to explore more :P
[05:33] <Minataku> AIX for PS/2 1.3.0 won't work on my IBM PS/2 note N51 slc :(
[05:33] <Linux_Galore> stdin: yeah I usually use ssh, I just wanted to share a Directory on the fly one day without nfs or ssh and I found the Sharing thing in KDE
[05:34] <Minataku> It runs and installs but a couple minutes after booting it bitches about a hard error on / and panics :(
[05:34] <stdin> Linux_Galore: sharing on the fly with ssh is easy, no setup required, you just mount to where you want it, from the remote sever
[05:34] <stdin> s/server/client/
[05:34] <Linux_Galore> stdin: no, kde can setup a "share server" without installing "anything"
[05:35] <stdin> you need to install samba server, not installed by default on *buntu
[05:35] <Linux_Galore> stdin: even shows an applet in your taskbar of the share server and when its being accessed
[05:35] <Linux_Galore> stdin: I dont have samba installed
[05:35] <stdin> ahh, that one :P
[05:35] <stdin> I get ya now :P
[05:36] <Dr_willis> what does it share it with then..
[05:36] <Linux_Galore> stdin: yeah the lazy mans share server
[05:36] <stdin> I think it used http
[05:36] <Linux_Galore> yeah its http
[05:36] <Linux_Galore> stdin: you can even define the port and speed of the share
[05:36] <stdin> applet "Public File Server"
[05:37] <Linux_Galore> stdin: if you behind a firewall router its not so public
[05:37] <Linux_Galore> your*
[05:37] <stdin> my pc IS the router in my LAN :P
[05:38] <mortici> lol i got my new soldering iron and now i wanna solder stuff
[05:38] <Dr_willis> brand the dog.
[05:38] <mortici> lol
[05:39] <Linux_Galore> mortici: always run around signing plastic things with "this is mine" with it
[05:39] <stdin> nah, solder it to the cat, hours of fun :)
[05:39] <mortici> haha
[05:39] <mortici> crazy geeks :P
[05:40] <mortici> i was gonna entertain my self by installing kubuntu on my desktop but it seems it will be more of a challange than i wanna do a t 11pm :P
[05:40] <stdin> nah, it's as easy as 3.14159265
[05:42] <kgarrod> I have a problem with Quanta+ going into a loop. When I open it up, it eads my project files and then sits there chewing cpu
[05:42] <kgarrod> eads -> reads
[05:43] <mortici> there should be an easier way to install linux on raid arrays :/
[05:44] <Dr_willis> You dont want to know the song and dance ive seen to isntall windows on raid arrays
[05:45] <mortici> i wanna see it
[05:45] <mortici> and i had no issues installing windows on a raid0 here :/
[05:46] <bdragonmsl> does anyone know how to edit settings in the grub on kubuntu?
[05:47] <stdin> bdragonmsl: kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:47] <ironfroggy> any idea why any kde app or firefox can print, but OOo can not?
[05:47] <aib> is anyone using KDE 4 in Edgy?
[05:49] <burepe> Is "vram" ram for the video card?
[05:49] <stdin> aib: kde4 isn't out yet
[05:49] <aib> stdin, i'm aware of that http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.1.php
[05:50] <stdin> burepe: yes, but only if your video card doesn't have it's own ram, like intel chips
[05:51] <burepe> what about savage s3 k133 cards?
[05:53] <FFForever> Hi
[05:53] <will> hi all, im running edgy, and im trying to upgrade my amarok to amarok144 so it has support for my zen creative mp3 player, I found a place that has a package, but all it says is "deb source ..." what do I do with that information?
[05:53] <FFForever> i have used ffmpeg and k3b to burn/make a vcd but my dvd player says its not a vcd, how can i make a working vcd?
[05:54] <glimmung> holy crap whats going on?
[05:54] <stdin_> quite a split there :P
[05:54] <Minataku> Big boom
[05:54] <glimmung> hi all, im running edgy, and im trying to upgrade my amarok to amarok144 so it has support for my zen creative mp3 player, I found a place that has a package, but all it says is "deb source ..." what do I do with that information?
[05:55] <Jucato> !amarok
[05:55] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.4 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[05:55] <Linux_Galore> glimmung: look on the kubuntu.org home page it has a repo for the latest version of amarok there
[05:55] <burepe> stdin: the page for the settings about my couputer says vram 16mb. Does that mean that I have to set the amount of deticated video memory?
[05:55] <FFForever> ok ima repost my question due to a 200 user diffrence lol
[05:55] <FFForever> i have used ffmpeg and k3b to burn/make a vcd but my dvd player says its not a vcd, how can i make a working vcd?
[05:56] <Linux_Galore> glimmung: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.4.php
[05:56] <Linux_Galore> glimmung: tells you everything you need to know
[05:57] <glimmung> no it doesnt, I dont know what to do with the apt source info
[05:58] <Linux_Galore> FFForever: hmm latest version of k3b has a vcd ripper tool built
[05:58] <Tm_T> !repository
[05:58] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:59] <Tm_T> Hmm, not sure does that help at all.
[05:59] <Linux_Galore> FFForever: need k3b Ver 1.0
[05:59] <Jucato> Tm_T: what you looking for?
[05:59] <Tm_T> 06:57 < glimmung> no it doesnt, I dont know what to do with the apt source info
[05:59] <Tm_T> Bah, should wake up first. ->
[06:00] <Jucato> glimmung: what do you mean? did you follow the instructions for adding Amarok 1.4.4 in the kubuntu.org page?
[06:01] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: there is a notice on the kubuntu.org page about it
[06:01] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: notice that?
[06:01] <Jucato> is there a new notice?
[06:01] <Linux_Galore> glimmung: ok its easy
[06:02] <Linux_Galore> glimmung: open adept from your menu
[06:02] <Hawkwind> You will get a message "OK" (you may also get a warning about no ultimately trusted keys found).
[06:02] <Hawkwind> I think he's referring to that message maybe
[06:02] <Hawkwind> Which can certainly be ignored
[06:02] <Linux_Galore> glimmung: now click on View -> Manage Repositories
[06:02] <Jucato> Hi Hawkwind!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:02] <Hawkwind> Hey Jucato!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:03] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: !!!!!!!!!!!
[06:03] <Linux_Galore> glimmung: now add this line and click on apply  -> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-144 edgy main
[06:03] <Linux_Galore> glimmung: now go back to the main window in adept and click on update
[06:03] <Linux_Galore> glimmung: now it should want to update amarok
[06:04] <Hawkwind> Joy
[06:04] <stdin> woooh !
[06:04] <Linux_Galore> should be a thing in konversation to ignore netsplits
[06:05] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: ignore join/parts
[06:05] <Hawkwind> Linux_Galore: There is, you could type /quit Ignoring Netsplits
[06:05] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: Hide Join/Part/Nick Events
[06:05] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: I want that one of join/leave thing, I dont want to see netsplits
[06:05] <LeeJunFan> Linux_Galore: I liked my old IRC client on Amiga, it used to show you what net's split off when there was a split, so you'd know what one to join if you wanted to takeover a channel :)
[06:06] <Linux_Galore> s/that/the/
[06:06] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: well, you won't notice a netsplit if you don't see the massive join/part
[06:07] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: yeah but there should be a leave/enter filter for netsplits ie more than 10 in 3 seconds and its a netsplit
[06:07] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: any other FOSS IRC client that does that?
[06:08] <dope> sup buddies
[06:08] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: well I used to have a filter plugin for gaim that allowed me to filter set events on Yahoo
[06:08] <akrus`Mobile> hello everyone~
[06:08] <akrus`Mobile> how to enable mouse control from keyboard in KDE?
[06:08] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: ie join/leave floods could be ignored
[06:09] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: gaim has that plugin? maybe you could request the Konvi devs to hack it?
[06:09] <dope> so what's the best way to ssh from a linux comp to a windows comp
[06:09] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: it only works for yahoo, its called ignorance
[06:09] <Jucato> akrus`Mobile: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Mouse -> Mouse Navigation
[06:09] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: Yahoo Chat on GAIM?
[06:09] <akrus`Mobile> I cannot move to 'Keyboard & Mouse' without mouse :)
[06:09] <dope> so what's the best way to ssh from a linux comp to a windows comp
[06:09] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: yep
[06:10] <dope> or remote access a windows comp from linux
[06:10] <Hobbsee> hey Hawkwind
[06:10] <Jucato> akrus`Mobile: Alt+F2, "kcontrol", then use cursor keys and Tab keys to navigate. it's under Peripherals -> Mouse
[06:10] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: Afternoon/evening to ya, how's things
[06:10] <Linux_Galore> dope: windows machine must be running an ssh server for that to work
[06:10] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: maybe it's possible becaause of the nature of Yahoo Chat, which isn't IRC
[06:10] <akrus`Mobile> SHIFT+NUMLOCK :)
[06:11] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: not really, Yahoo is just a wrapper protocol with plain text
[06:11] <Jucato> kool, didn't know that :)
[06:11] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: good :
[06:11] <Hobbsee> )
[06:11] <dope> or remote access a windows comp from linux
[06:11] <Jucato> if you say so
[06:11] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: the info is freely available
[06:12] <Dr_willis> dope,  to access files on a windows box. use the FISH:// stuff or some other samba method/tool/mount
[06:12] <dope> FISH!?@$#
[06:12] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: I used to use an app called gyach on yahoo it has a debug mode that shows the packets in the terminal between you and yahoo
[06:12] <Dr_willis> Yes.. fish://
[06:13] <Dr_willis> konqueror can browse samba/smb shares with the fish:// kioslave
[06:13] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: its actually not that big a deal
[06:13] <Dr_willis> or am i backwards.. fish is for ssh... smb:// is samba
[06:13] <dope> so how do i connect to a windows whatever with the fish thing
[06:13] <dope> i have to make a samba share?
[06:13] <dope> OH GOD I'M LOST
[06:13] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: like I said, you can probably request it from the #konversation guys
[06:13] <Dr_willis> windows must have a SHARE shared...... of course
[06:13] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: what is complex about yahoo is all the weird cookie crap that yahoo uses
[06:13] <dope> a special samba share or just share a folder
[06:13] <Dr_willis> then you can use the various samba/smb browser tools to access the wndows share.
[06:14] <Dr_willis> dope,  windows "shareing" folders is the equilivent of samba shares on a linux box.
[06:14] <dope> oh really
[06:14] <dope> so what would the url be to access it?
[06:14] <Dr_willis> windows dont use 'samba' thats the name of the LInux thing that does the same thing
[06:14] <Dr_willis> smb://windowsboxname or similer.
[06:15] <Dr_willis> open up konueror to the remote places.. it has a icon for the shares
[06:15] <Dr_willis> remote:/
[06:15] <dope> OMG I FOUND IT
[06:15] <dope> OMGOMGOMG
[06:15] <Dr_willis> amazing what you can find when you look...
[06:15] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:15] <dope> can i say i love you?
[06:16] <Dr_willis> dont make me come over there....
[06:16] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:16] <Jucato> hahah
[06:16] <dope> i luv u
[06:16] <dope> and u and u and u
[06:17] <Dr_willis> NOW to access files on a linux box from a windows machine.. winscp is a rather easy to do it..
[06:17] <dope> yea i got something for that
[06:17] <dope> i think it's winscp
[06:17] <Dr_willis> or ya can set up samba for the linux box.. and the windows machine will see it as if it was a windows machine with some shares...
[06:17] <dope> is that a visual tool?
[06:17] <dope> it looks like krusader?
[06:17] <Dr_willis> it can look like explorer, or like a 2 pane file manager
[06:17] <arkanabar> Is there an equivalent to "Kubuntu for Dummies" online somewhere?
[06:18] <Jucato> arkanabar: it's included with every Kubuntu installation: K Menu -> Help -> Kubuntu Desktop Guide :)
[06:20] <CVirus> * Rob-West is looking for people to talk to PM me
[06:20] <CVirus> WTF ?
[06:20] <CVirus> A dating channel that is ?!
[06:20] <intelikey> hmmmm it takes gnome apps for ever and a day (figuratively) to start.   could that be because i made   /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfd-2 a symlink to /bin/true ?
[06:20] <Dr_willis> I hear that #debian has a lot of hot chicks...
[06:20] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:20] <intelikey> Dr_willis lol
[06:21] <CVirus> Rob-West: #Kubuntu-OffTopic or #Ubuntu-OffTopic
[06:21] <Linux_Galore> Dr_willis: with big bananas in their pants
[06:21] <CVirus> Rob-West: or move to another server even ... like undernet or dalnet
[06:21] <arkanabar> Argh!!  I was sure I ran passwd for user root successfully!  But the password I set didn't work......
[06:22] <intelikey> arkanabar didn't work where ?
[06:22] <arkanabar> with add programs.
[06:23] <Jucato> kdesu in Kubuntu is set to use sudo, it will always be sudo
[06:23] <intelikey> that's because it's not asking for root's passwd.
[06:23] <Jucato> afaik
[06:23] <intelikey> arkanabar try your password
[06:23] <Dr_willis> unless of course ya set roots password, to the same as that first users password. :)
[06:24] <Jucato> but it still uses sudo :P
[06:24] <intelikey> it still is not asking for root's password.  the fact that they would be the same is irrelivent
[06:24] <Dr_willis> then it dosent matter...
[06:24] <intelikey> even if you spell it correctly
[06:25] <Dr_willis> darn!  i typed it wrong
[06:25] <intelikey> password==password
[06:25] <intelikey> name==name
[06:25] <intelikey> hehhe don't that.
[06:25] <Jucato> setting a passwd for root user only applies in the terminal
[06:25] <Jucato> kdesu will still use sudo no matter what...
[06:25] <arkanabar> I was at command line when I did it
[06:26] <Jucato> (except by making some config changes or re-compiling kdesu)
[06:26] <intelikey> Jucato or if you enable root login in kdm
[06:26] <Jucato> intelikey: but then... why would you need kdesu? :P
[06:26] <intelikey> you wouldn't
[06:26] <intelikey> but you couldn't tell kde that.
[06:26] <Dr_willis> !info sux
[06:26] <ubotu> sux: wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-3.2 (edgy), package size 8 kB, installed size 64 kB
[06:27] <Dr_willis> i just use Sux out of old habbit.
[06:27] <jordo23> Hey Jucato
[06:27] <Jucato> hi jordo23
[06:27] <Jucato> I use kdesu, no root, out of habit :)
[06:27] <arkanabar> nvm, have to sleep.
[06:27] <Dr_willis> im always sshing into other box's and running stuff.. been having some issues if i dont use sux :)
[06:27] <intelikey> i'm nosuid  so no su,sux,sudo,kdesu  here mate
[06:28] <Jucato> is that an invitation to crackers?
[06:28] <intelikey> it's been tried
[06:28] <intelikey> but no success yet.
[06:29] <intelikey> not really an invite tho
[06:29] <dane> ...hello?
[06:30] <intelikey> i ran ssh for a week and advertized my ip and a guest account with passwd=x   so they could really test it...  three people took me up on it.
[06:30] <intelikey> sshd
[06:30] <Jucato> hi
[06:30] <dane> nice
[06:30] <dane> good stuff
[06:30] <dane> are you happy?
[06:30] <Jucato> ??
[06:31] <intelikey> or at least 3 was all i could track through the logs    i confess that i'm not good at tracking things like that.
[06:32] <kai> stdin: on my ipod when I mount it say invalid file format?
[06:32] <placo> anyone knows how i can disable my wifi radio and get rid of this anyoing flickering light on my laptop?
[06:32] <dope> ok how would i stream a music file off a linux box to a windows box?
[06:32] <kai> the only spots I have left are sdb
[06:32] <kai> whats goin on with that
[06:33] <intelikey> placo mmmm could remove the module from the kernel ?
[06:33] <stdin> kai: it should be sd*2 where * can be any letter
[06:33] <intelikey> black list it
[06:33] <placo> that difficult?
[06:33] <kai> but its telling me invalid filesystem
[06:33] <dope> ok how would i stream a music file off a linux box to a windows box?
[06:34] <intelikey> placo probably not.
[06:34] <kai> stdin:
[06:34] <kai> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb,
[06:34] <kai>        missing codepage or other error
[06:34] <kai>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[06:34] <kai>        dmesg | tail  or so
[06:34] <placo> because i would like to use it later on, but not now
[06:34] <kai> why 2?
[06:35] <kai> why does it have to sd*2?
[06:35] <placo> intelikey how do i remove this module then?
[06:35] <Ash-Fox> Anyone happen to know any hardware vendors like http://system76.com that sell high end laptops - linux supported in Europe?
[06:35] <stdin> kai: because on the ipod the 1st partition is the ipod "boot" partition, where the firmware is
[06:36] <kai> wow, your realy know wasup
[06:36] <kai> I didn't know that,, I thought it was the thing
[06:37] <intelikey> placo lsmod | less       and see what the module name is, compare with lshw | less    if needed  and add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist   you can remove it at anytime...
[06:37] <kai> In amark is there an updat command I can update playlist and thing?
[06:37] <intelikey> placo you can test with  modprobe -r <modulename>    to see if that will produce the desired results.
[06:38] <intelikey> sudo that ^
[06:38] <gatillo> cedega works with intel 915??
[06:38] <stdin> there is a "transfir cue" in the media devices tab i think kai
[06:39] <dope> ok how would i stream a music file off a linux box to a windows box?
[06:39] <Ash-Fox> dope, you could use shoutcast, just like on windows.
[06:40] <dope> :O
[06:40] <kai> I found that but when I make a playlist it seems messed up lik it doesn't do anything and its empty
[06:41] <intelikey> placo  an alternate way would be to make a script that will remove the module if you click it.   or insert it if it has been removed...     that's what i'd do.    something like this example#  #!/bin/sh \n\n lsmod | grep nodname && kdesu modprobe -r nodname || kdesu modprobe modname
[06:42] <intelikey> placo where \n is  a new line and modname is the actual module name    make it executable and put it on the desktop or in your home and make a link to it in the menu or task bar
[06:42] <stdin> intelikey: why kdesu not sudo ?
[06:42] <Jucato> !yakuake > jordo23
[06:42] <stdin> intelikey: or why not, sudo script
[06:43] <intelikey> stdin so he can just click it and it will open a window for the passwd.
[06:43] <intelikey> stdin more gui friendly
[06:44] <intelikey> i know it's hard to believe as dumb as i am and as much as i typo and can't spell anything  but i have writen several scripts  both for the gui and for the cli
[06:45] <intelikey> only computer language i know is  "bash scripting"
[06:45] <stdin> intelikey: heh, me to :)
[06:46] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: should be a fan of kommander then
[06:47] <stdin> intelikey: I used kdialog in a bash script to ask me a login if I wanted to run beryl: now, later, or not at all
[06:47] <intelikey> Linux_Galore mc
[06:48] <intelikey> Linux_Galore oh no  xmessage for that.
[06:50] <stdin> I remember kqemu (a GUI not the module) was written in kommander
[06:50] <stdin> or it may have been kemu?
[06:51] <dope> ok i have a nfts partition on a linux machine that i want to access from a windows box, how do i do this
[06:51] <dope> it's just mp3s
[06:51] <intelikey> !samba
[06:51] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:52] <intelikey> and dope if you need read/write access you probably want !ntfs   also
[06:52] <intelikey> !ntfs
[06:52] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:55] <stdin> intelikey: you mean !ntfs-3g there ? "if you need read/write access"
[06:56] <intelikey> i meant the infonode that i typed that points you at that infonode and !fuse infonode and the wiki page.
[06:56] <intelikey> you/him/
[06:58] <matthew0507> hi i need to know how to change the OS order because im dual booting xp and kubuntu, it listed kubuntu as default to top but i want xp instead.
[06:59] <matthew0507> i need to know the gnub commands to do that
[06:59] <matthew0507> grub*
[06:59] <intelikey> matthew0507 edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:59] <matthew0507> thankyou :)
[06:59] <stdin> matthew0507: change "default (whatever)" to the correct number (starting at 0)
[07:00] <intelikey> matthew0507  kdesu kedit /boot/grub/menu.lst   <<< actual command
[07:00] <lalo> need help
[07:00] <matthew0507> roger
[07:01] <intelikey> kedit or kwrite or kate or some-editor-you-like
[07:01] <stdin> lalo: with ?
[07:01] <intelikey> 
[07:01] <ShuT> lol
[07:01] <intelikey> ?
[07:02] <intelikey> if i could get those two hooks togather i'd crush "<ShuT> lol"   with it.
[07:02] <intelikey> :)
[07:03] <matthew0507> any of you familiar with windows app such as speedfan and eazytune to change and control cpu fan speed? is there something like that to use on kubuntu?
[07:05] <intelikey> powermanagement-interface - platform neutral powermanagement interface
[07:05] <intelikey> powermgmt-base - Common utils and configs for power management
[07:05] <intelikey> might look into either or both of those ^
[07:05] <intelikey> i've never used them
[07:05] <matthew0507> thanks again
[07:06] <_Shade_> hi there
[07:07] <_Shade_> when can i expect herd2 to be released?
[07:07] <intelikey> matthew0507 also adept has a search feature  and the cli way to scan packages is     apt-cache search <string>    if you see something you want to know more about    apt-cache show <packagename>
[07:08] <intelikey> _Shade_ you running feisty ?
[07:09] <stdin> !feisty
[07:09] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[07:09] <_Shade_> intelikey: no i am not
[07:09] <intelikey> ah.  ok.
[07:09] <Jucato> _Shade_: maybe those in #ubuntu+1 would know when
[07:09] <intelikey> _Shade_ yeah that ^   maybe.
[07:09] <stdin> or just use the relesae scedual link there :)
[07:10] <stdin> *schedual
[07:10] <jughead> I'm an ubuntu user that installed KDE, and the fonts in KDE look very very bad.  Is there something I can do to fix this?
[07:10] <intelikey> stdin does that have herd schedualing ?
[07:11] <_Shade_> stdin: well it's planned today according to the schedule... just cant wait :)
[07:11] <intelikey> jughead change them.    kcontrol
[07:11] <stdin> intelikey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule yep, and appepently heed 2 is out today (January 11th)
[07:11] <vulcanius> wow... i keep thinking it's the 8th
[07:11] <jughead> I'll try that intelikey.  I don't want to change the style, just the rendering of them.. I can do that there?
[07:12] <intelikey> jughead  hit  alt+f2  and type in   kcontrol
[07:12] <stdin> jughead: should be in System Settings -> Apperance -> Fonts
[07:12] <jughead> I'm in Gnome right now does that matter?
[07:12] <intelikey> every thing you want to adjust is in there
[07:12] <intelikey> and if it's not, then right click it.
[07:13] <vulcanius> zomg, Mr Kim is locked out of the helm
[07:13] <jughead> let me change over to KDE brb thanks
[07:13] <intelikey> jughead ahhh probably.
[07:13] <vulcanius> and the starship voyager is adjusting it's course
[07:13] <jordo23> Where in KDE do you tell it not to display all windows on virtual desktops?
[07:13] <vulcanius> ZOMGWTFBBQWNED
[07:14] <intelikey> jordo23 in kcontrol or right click the desktop and configure it that way
[07:14] <_Shade_> hey guys i need to install flashplugin in edgy. Last time i needed that a nice konqueror notification appeared which guided me through the process smoothly but now it's gone...
[07:14] <vulcanius> anyone ever notice the Army commercials always feature a day talking to his son about how he never used to do something before?
[07:15] <stdin> jordo23: or right ckick on the pannel, choose "Confgiure Pannel", go to Taskbar, and deselect "Show windows from all desktops"
[07:15] <vulcanius> they make it sound like every person in the army is a lifetime fuckup who somehow becomes the perfect person because of the army
[07:15] <intelikey> would the son of a day be a morning ?
[07:15] <vulcanius> heh, dad*
[07:15] <intelikey> :)
[07:15] <Jucato> !offtopic
[07:16] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:16] <stdin> _Shade_: follow the guide here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash
[07:16] <vulcanius> lol
[07:16] <jordo23> stdin: That's what I thought.....but the option is gone....like it disappeared!
[07:16] <jordo23> stdin: It's not there.....am I crazy??
[07:16] <jordo23> stdin: seriously....I know where it should be but it's not there...
[07:17] <Jucato> jordo23: maybe the guys in #ubuntu-xgl and #beryl would know
[07:17] <stdin> jordo23: I can see it, so you must be crazy
[07:17] <jordo23> stdin: right click on kicker, panel menu, configure panel, then under taskbar tab right?
[07:17] <intelikey> vulcanius not so far from the truth though in the simple sense that they have not done much of anything.  being 18 years old   and they do a lot of growing up really fast there    not that they were 'loosers' before, just kids.
[07:18] <stdin> jordo23: yep, it's the 1st check box i see there
[07:18] <jordo23> It's there now.....but it is deselected....
[07:19] <stdin> jordo23: then you shouldn't see all the windows on all desktops on it
[07:19] <jordo23> stdin: wierd, I do....but I think it's a Beryl conflict...
[07:19] <stdin> jordo23: ahh, beryl
[07:19] <stdin> jordo23: yeah, it don't work in beryl :P
[07:19] <jordo23> stdin: When I set for four different desktops and Beryl is running, it makes 4x4 or 16...
[07:20] <jordo23> stdin: Do you know this for a fact that it doesn't work in Beryl.....
[07:21] <stdin> jordo23: yeah, it isn't a feature in beryl, and the bug about it making 16 desktops when you switch back to kwin, I've already reported
[07:21] <stdin> jordo23: also, If you have a window minimised, then switch back to kwin, it will disapear :P
[07:21] <stdin> jordo23: not even alt-tab will see it
[07:22] <jordo23> stdin: Ok....thanks....then I am not crazy...I was just speaking with a Beryl dev trying to find that out but he had to go abruptly...
[07:22] <jordo23> stdin: Yeah....I find that Adept's Notifier is having problems on my system too...
[07:23] <stdin> beryl isn't classed as stable yet, so there are bound to be some issues
[07:23] <stdin> I compile it from cvs daily :)
[07:23] <intelikey> !beryl
[07:23] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:23] <stdin> I have version beryl-core 0.1.5-svn
[07:24] <stdin> intelikey: because we want da bling :)
[07:25] <intelikey> :)
[07:25] <stdin> there's also a how https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingBeryl
[07:25] <stdin> *to
[07:25] <jordo23> stdin: I like Beryl, but not having virtual desktops kind of defeats part of it's main use...
[07:26] <intelikey> stdin yeah    that makes it look like it's officially supported
[07:26] <jordo23> stdin: I don't really see the point then with the cube...
[07:26] <jordo23> stdin: Under KDE at least..
[07:26] <stdin> jordo23: you'll still have 4 desktops (as the cube), but you'll just see all the windows open in the taskbar
[07:26] <stdin> intelikey: the clue is the external repos :P
[07:27] <jordo23> stdin: Yeah....I know, but then it really isn't like 4 independent desktops, more like one desktop with four sections...
[07:27] <intelikey> but clues are not noticed by nubys
[07:27] <stdin> intelikey: true dat
[07:28] <stdin> jordo23: if you want the bling, you have to put up with it for now, also you can post a bug report and see what responce you get, or ask in #beryl
[07:28] <jughead> My fonts look a lot better now thanks #kubuntu
[07:28] <jordo23> stdin: When I have Konversation open on one face....switch to another, and maximize amarok, it doesn't open for me, but it spins me back to Konversation and opens amarok over it.....am I doing something wrong?
[07:29] <stdin> jordo23: it will open on the desktop you started the app on
[07:29] <stdin> jordo23: if you started amarok from the kmenu from the 2nd viwepoint, it would open in that one, not the 1st
[07:29] <jordo23> stdin: is that considered a bug by Beryl?
[07:30] <jordo23> theoritically you should be able to open a minimized window without spinning back right...
[07:30] <intelikey> well i can say for sure now  that it will keep gnome apps from opening a window if you do;
[07:30] <intelikey> tty23 [root@~]  rm /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfd-2
[07:30] <intelikey> tty23 [root@~]  ln -s /bin/true /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfd-2
[07:31] <stdin> jordo23: no, because you can have, say firefox open on one view, and konversation open in another and be looking at it, then click the firefox taskbar entry and it'll spin you back to the firefox view
[07:31] <_Shade_> will be feisty available through shipit again, or just dapper?
[07:32] <stdin> _Shade_: don't know, probably still dapper, seeing as it's LTS, but you should ask in #ubuntu+1
[07:32] <intelikey> that's a good ole question _Shade_
[07:32] <intelikey> !shipit
[07:32] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will not send Edgy (6.10) CDs, but only Dapper (6.06) CDs, as Dapper is a !LTS release.
[07:32] <_Shade_> ah thanx... i will ask them then
[07:33] <jordo23> stdin: I see.....so I should be conscious on which face I open the programs on..
[07:34] <stdin> jordo23: yes, you can drag the windows to another face of the cube too, or right click the titlt bat and transfir it like you would when you send it to another desktop
[07:34] <jordo23> stdin: Yeah....I get it now....if only the virtual desktops worked, then it would be sweet...
[07:34] <stdin> jordo23: it's only at version 0.1.x give it time :P
[07:35] <jordo23> stdin: If the taskbar was independent and it didn't multiply the number of available desktops/
[07:35] <jordo23> stdin: How old is the project?
[07:35] <intelikey> three weeks
[07:35] <intelikey> or a little more.
[07:35] <jordo23> Thats it???!!
[07:36] <jughead> I'm new to KDE and Konqueror, is there a way I can change the default view to detailed list?
[07:36] <intelikey> he always does it BIG TIME.
[07:36] <stdin> jordo23: it's not verry old, the IRC channel was only created 16 weeks 4 days (18h 13m 15s) ago
[07:36] <intelikey> jughead yes set it to that and save the profile
[07:37] <jughead> thanks intelikey
[07:37] <jughead> that was pretty easy
[07:38] <jughead> are most people in here KDE users?
[07:38] <intelikey> jughead yes
[07:38] <jordo23> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE
[07:38] <intelikey> i'm not.
[07:38] <stdin> well yeah, most are
[07:38] <jordo23> intelikey: You use Gnome (hisssssss......)
[07:38] <intelikey> jughead i'm a cli kind of guy
[07:38] <jughead> even better
[07:38] <intelikey> jordo23
[07:38] <jordo23> ?
[07:39] <stdin> 
[07:39] <intelikey> nick completion error
[07:39] <jughead> well, I use fluxbox when I run on batteries becuase I have this idea that the battery will last longer
[07:39] <jordo23> intelikey: You use gnome?
[07:39] <stdin> jughead: you're proberbly right
[07:39] <jughead> but plugged in... it's been Gnome and probably more KDE now too
[07:40] <intelikey> jordo23 i'm a cli kind of guy
[07:40] <jughead> I figure the extra stuff KDE does behind the scenes has to use CPU cycles, and power
[07:40] <jordo23> intelikey: Oh...didn't see it
[07:40] <jughead> CLI would be the ultimate, but I am not that good
[07:40] <stdin> jughead: KDE dosen't use any mroe recources thant Gnome
[07:40] <stdin> *more
[07:40] <jughead> yeah
[07:40] <stdin> and
[07:41] <stdin> KDE is BETTER :)
[07:41] <jughead> I figured that much.  I don't use either if I'm not plugged in.
[07:41] <jordo23> except the Gimp..
[07:41] <intelikey> i have one box  a p1mmx 100mhz with 64m ram and i run kde on it with no swap.... so don't get the idea that kde has to have a bazillion terabites of ram
[07:42] <matthew_> intelikey, I didn't think that was possible...
[07:43] <jughead> that's insane intelikey
[07:43] <intelikey> hmmm i actually have xorg ideling at the moment and the total ram usage is  26m
[07:43] <StingRay> Good Morning, stdin!
[07:43] <intelikey> blackbox on the xserver
[07:43] <stdin> morning StingRay
[07:43] <matthew_> wow...I generally have ~300-400 Megs of RAM used whilst idling
[07:44] <intelikey> heh and that's with the broke gnome app running without a window.
[07:44] <jordo23> matthew_: I have 600 when idle
[07:44] <stdin> but how much is cache?
[07:44] <jughead> I do like konqueror better than nautilus
[07:45] <D3javu> hello. my sound is pnp, i try lspnp to find info about it but lspnp is not working. any idea?
[07:45] <intelikey> matthew_ jordo23 i doubt that you are looking at actual usage.   but allocated ram.  there is a differance you know.
[07:45] <jughead> I do need to install PyQt for liquid weather though, let me google that up
[07:46] <intelikey> if you have 2g kde will allocate 1+g of it   if you have 64m kde will allocate 60m of it.
[07:46] <matthew_> intelikey, meh, you're probably right...
[07:46] <jordo23> Is there a stable solution to get flash on 64 bit kubuntu and konq?
[07:46] <stdin> D3javu: try lshw
[07:47] <intelikey> i run mandrake 9.0 on a 486 lappy with only 16m of ram.   no X there tho.
[07:47] <stdin> !lshw | D3javu
[07:47] <ubotu> lshw: information about hardware configuration. In component main, is standard. Version 02.06-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 266 kB, installed size 676 kB
[07:47] <intelikey> heh and no swap.
[07:47] <jughead> I don't have a pyqt package listed in synaptic... how can I install it?
[07:47] <stdin> !find pyqt
[07:47] <ubotu> Found: pyqt-tools, memaid-pyqt, pyqt4-dev-tools
[07:48] <intelikey> i don't have room for swap on the lappy   the hd is 200m    and i dual boot with win95  lol
[07:48] <stdin> why in the name of all that is holy do you have win95?
[07:48] <intelikey> because it's a 486
[07:49] <jughead> lol
[07:49] <stdin> do you actually use it?
[07:49] <intelikey> came with win 3.1 and i uped it to 95
[07:49] <stdin> s/do/can/ :P
[07:49] <intelikey> yes
[07:49] <intelikey> actually have it loaned out right now.  another guy is using it.
[07:50] <stdin> and the DOS days :)
[07:50] <intelikey> i know that sounds strange but it's true.
[07:50] <D3javu> stdin: yes, i tried lshw, it not listing the sound chipset. it suppose to be cs42xx something if not mistaken.
[07:50] <intelikey> stdin yes 3.1 required dos
[07:50] <intelikey> so did 9x
[07:51] <intelikey> D3javu lspci
[07:51] <stdin> 3.1 and 9x ran on dos, above them dos ran on windows
[07:51] <intelikey> yep  or sorta
[07:51] <Ash-Fox> Meh, sucks.. Can't get system76, I'm going to go with Dell.
[07:51] <stdin> yeah, "dos mode" :p
[07:51] <intelikey> me was a flakey thang.
[07:52] <D3javu> intelikey: no, the chipset not listed on lspci. that is why i try to use lspnp since the sound is pnp.
[07:52] <stdin> D3javu: looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSetupSoundCards ?
[07:52] <intelikey> D3javu is it listed in    dmesg    ?
[07:53] <D3javu> stdin: i'm there. be right back.
[07:53] <jordo23> stdin: I run Kubuntu 64, is there any way to get flash working for Konq?
[07:53] <D3javu> intelikey: , dmesg? how?
[07:53] <jordo23> Or does anyone know this?
[07:54] <intelikey> D3javu  dmesg | less
[07:54] <stdin> jordo23: I don't think it will work in konq, I know you can do it in ff tho
[07:55] <intelikey> D3javu i may be working on a false assumption here    did you check?    cat /proc/asound/cards
[07:55] <jordo23> is konq considered Mozilla based?
[07:55] <stdin> jordo23: you can use the free version tho
[07:55] <stdin> !gnash
[07:55] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[07:55] <stdin> !konqueror-plugin-gnash
[07:55] <intelikey> D3javu and less does search strings.   use /string   or  ?string
[07:55] <jordo23> stdin: Will gnash work under Konq or just FF??
[07:56] <stdin> jordo23: it has a plugin for konq: konqueror-plugin-gnash
[07:57] <stdin> jordo23: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash look at the "Flash for AMD64 and PPC" section
[07:57] <jordo23> stdin: Is that in a repository?
[07:57] <stdin> jordo23: it say's it's in backports
[07:59] <jordo23> stdin: Do I have to add that repository to a pretty standard sources.list?
[07:59] <jordo23> stdin: Doesn't seem to say in that article
[08:00] <stdin> jordo23: it's should be in there already, just commented out, the one with "edgy-backports" in it
[08:00] <jordo23> stdin: Do you see this in Ubuntu's package search?
[08:01] <stdin> jordo23: i'm on feisty
[08:01] <intelikey> !info gnash
[08:01] <ubotu> Package gnash does not exist in any distro I know
[08:01] <stdin> !info konqueror-plugin-gnash feisty
[08:01] <ubotu> konqueror-plugin-gnash: free Flash movie player - Plugin for Konqueror. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.2-1 (feisty), package size 128 kB, installed size 268 kB
[08:01] <intelikey> !konqueror-plugin-gnash
[08:01] <intelikey> !info konqueror-plugin-gnash
[08:01] <stdin> intelikey: it's in backports for 6.10
[08:01] <ubotu> Package konqueror-plugin-gnash does not exist in any distro I know
[08:02] <jordo23> stdin: I cant find it in package search....should I still try and uncomment those lines?
[08:02] <intelikey> yeah i was actually testing the bot to see if it searched backports.
[08:02] <stdin> intelikey: ahh, yeah I already did that, but in /mag form :P
[08:02] <stdin> jordo23: yes, uncomment them
[08:03] <jordo23> stdin: yeah....found it in backports list, search must not search backports...
[08:03] <stdin> jordo23: that's because they were disabled
[08:03] <stdin> !botabuse | intelikey
[08:03] <ubotu> intelikey: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[08:03] <stdin> :P
[08:03] <intelikey> !botsnack
[08:03] <ubotu> Yum!
[08:04] <intelikey> !good bot
[08:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about good bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:04] <stdin> I want a !botslap, for when it' being a bad bot
[08:04] <intelikey> oh well can't win them all
[08:04] <intelikey> yeah
[08:04] <jordo23> I don't show it in my sources.list, forgot, generated a new one from website. Anyone know the backports repository line?
[08:04] <intelikey> !botsmack
[08:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botsmack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:05] <stdin> jordo23: it will have "backports" in it
[08:05] <Linux_Galore> jordo23: varies depending where you are
[08:05] <stdin> !botslap
[08:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botslap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:05] <Linux_Galore> !wtf
[08:05] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[08:05] <jordo23> Stupid question - but where would I look on the web for that repository information....I am on the search results page...
[08:06] <stdin> jordo23: you use either adept, synaptic, or apt-cache search package
[08:06] <Linux_Galore> jordo23: two things you need to look at are "edgy, dapper etc" and were you reside  "europe asia"
[08:07] <stdin> jordo23: you want a line like "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-backports main universe multiverse restricted"
[08:07] <jordo23> edgy and us....is there a list of these common repositories?
[08:07] <Linux_Galore> stdin: yeah, but you can often get a local mirror
[08:07] <jordo23> or a list of the sources.list entries?
[08:07] <stdin> jordo23: then "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-backports main universe multiverse restricted"
[08:07] <jordo23> stdin: I'll try it...
[08:08] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main universe multiverse restricted
[08:08] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-updates main universe multiverse restricted
[08:08] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main universe multiverse restricted
[08:08] <stdin> jordo23: have a look here too : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[08:08] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: yeah but you can get  de,cn.au mirrors
[08:09] <stdin> it has a default list of sources
[08:10] <intelikey> Linux_Galore yes   any working  ru jp cz nl gb au de cn us    or what ever   .archive^
[08:10] <jordo23> installing them now....I HOPE THIS WORKS>.....PLEASE WORK!!
[08:10] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: not sure, I usually google for them, there is a nice au one
[08:10] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: I used the de one for a while
[08:11] <intelikey> Linux_Galore all those should work and more.
[08:11] <intelikey> that was just the nine i could think of.
[08:11] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: yeah but the main repo servers can get really laggy for me
[08:11] <stdin> Linux_Galore: this is where I find mirrors http://tinyurl.com/tzuy6
[08:12] <intelikey> but you are half a world away.
[08:12] <jordo23> wow....going slow
[08:12] <matthew0507> this might sound like a stupid question but is there a need to instal firewall and anitvirus? if so what packages are there?
[08:12] <D3javu> yikes, i see chipset: 4235 on alsamixer.
[08:12] <jordo23> firewall...maybe....A/v....depends on your system...
[08:12] <intelikey> matthew0507 hehhe     no.
[08:13] <jordo23> matthew0507: for all practical purposes no...
[08:13] <matthew0507> ok cool, thanks
[08:13] <intelikey> matthew0507 firewall only if you want to leave sshd running and have the outside world blocked    or samba
[08:13] <stdin> matthew0507: antivirus: no, firewall: only if you are running a publuc server, otherwise not
[08:14] <intelikey> yep ^
[08:14] <stdin> you can set both ssh and sambe to only listed to lan too
[08:14] <stdin> *samba
[08:14] <jordo23> stdin: once I install the plugin for Konq should I have to rescan for plugins in Konq?
[08:14] <intelikey> yeah but it's easier to run firestarter or quicktables   most of the time.
[08:15] <stdin> jordo23: you shouldn't have to, just restart it
[08:15] <Linux_Galore> Im off to have a shower
[08:15] <Linux_Galore> and dinner
[08:15] <stdin> intelikey: it's a 1 line setting in both for me, but I still have firestarter :)
[08:15] <jordo23> stdin: If this works I will be SOOOOOO happy...
[08:16] <Linux_galore_> firstarter/ the lazy admins firewall
[08:16] <stdin> Linux_galore_: yep :P
[08:16] <Linux_galore_> stdin: kde really needs something like firestarter
[08:17] <stdin> Linux_galore_: It has some firewall app, but it's nowhere near as good
[08:17] <intelikey> well the traffic sniffing feature of firestarter is nice.
[08:17] <stdin> !kmyfirewall
[08:17] <ubotu> kmyfirewall: iptables based firewall configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 1211 kB, installed size 4056 kB
[08:17] <stdin> it's poo tho :P
[08:17] <jordo23> stdin: What would be a good site to test the functionality...
[08:18] <stdin> jordo23: just head over to http://www.adobe.com/
[08:18] <stdin> see if it works there :S
[08:19] <intelikey> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[08:19] <intelikey>   firestarter gksu libgksu1.2-1 libgksuui1.0-1 libstartup-notification0 sudo
[08:19] <intelikey> hehhe it's gonna install sudo
[08:19] <intelikey> that's worthless here.
[08:19] <D3javu> do i need to restart after modprobe? i modprobed the cs4236 and i see all the sound drivers are loaded on lsmod. but no sound :-/
[08:19] <intelikey> D3javu no
[08:20] <jordo23> stdin: adobe.com loads.....but where the flash movie should be I see a bix black box...
[08:20] <jordo23> stdin: If you go to adobe.com there is a movie in that box right?
[08:20] <D3javu> alsamixer is not in mute. hmm
[08:20] <intelikey> D3javu alsamixer     and check settings
[08:21] <stdin> jordo23: it may be using flash 8 tho, try http://accelerateu.org/
[08:21] <stdin> it uses flash 7
[08:21] <intelikey> D3javu   snd-cs4236-lib  is loaded too ?
[08:22] <D3javu> intelikey: snd_cs4236_lib         16512  1 snd_cs4236
[08:22] <intelikey> k
[08:22] <jordo23> stdin: says I need latest version of flash player....I think my problem is that Konq doesn't see the dir where the plugin is....do you know what the name of the .so file is and where it should be?
[08:23] <intelikey> D3javu  cat /proc/asound/cards    says it's ok ?
[08:23] <stdin> jordo23: I'll have a look
[08:24] <jordo23> stdin: I think when I was messing around with plugin wrapper I deleted the dir under plugins...although I do see libgnashplugin.so, along with two others....
[08:24] <D3javu> intelikey: CS4235 at 0x534, irq 5, dma 1&3
[08:24] <jordo23> stdin: the only dir I have is /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[08:24] <jordo23> stdin: should I delete the other two in that dir?
[08:25] <stdin> jordo23: no, you shouldn't need to do that
[08:25] <intelikey> D3javu maybe restart artsd ?    idk.
[08:26] <intelikey> !sound
[08:26] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[08:26] <jordo23> stdin: Is the first entry (libgnashplugin.so) the correct one? Or do I need Konq to find another one?>
[08:27] <jordo23> stdin: from my understanding that is a pretty "general" plugin dir...
[08:27] <stdin> jordo23: that looks right, you could try adding the directory "/usr/lib/kde3/" to it too
[08:28] <jordo23> stdin: will try
[08:28] <kraut> moin
[08:30] <jordo23> stdin: It crashes when I add that dir
[08:30] <jordo23> stdin: there are a ton of .so files in that dir though...
[08:31] <stdin> jordo23: hmm, ok
[08:31] <jordo23> will try again...
[08:31] <stdin> jordo23: try "sudo update-flashplugin"
[08:31] <StingRay> Can somebody tell me how to start individual xsessions for each user? For example user1-:1, user2-:2 and etc?
[08:32] <StingRay> I tried with startx startkde :1 ,but some restrictions on the x are stopping me
[08:32] <fhdgghdfg> alguien que hable espaol? xD
[08:32] <fhdgghdfg> hi! y esas cosas
[08:33] <jordo23> stdin: says command not found
[08:34] <intelikey> StingRay# DISPLAY=':1' ;startx
[08:36] <StingRay> intelikey: X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[08:36] <jordo23> stdin: I deleted the npwrapper*.so files from that dir but still nothing....didn't need those files...was trying a workaround..
[08:36] <StingRay> how do I authorize the user? intelikey
[08:37] <stdin> StingRay: not sure, but I think you can run a script with the startx command, so if you make one for each user with "sudo -u usename startkde" it it, then run like "sudo startx  scriptname -- :1"
[08:37] <Linux_galore_> StingRay: press ctrl alt F1  login as that user than run  xinit /usr/bin/startkde  -- :1    change the last digit for each one
[08:37] <Linux_galore_> then*
[08:37] <Linux_galore_> StingRay: press ctrl alt F2  to run another  F3 F4  etc
[08:38] <Linux_galore_> StingRay: the default display from memory resides under ctrl alt F6
[08:38] <jordo23> stdin: any other ideas??
[08:38] <StingRay> Linux_galore_, can this be done from a remote consol?e
[08:39] <Linux_galore_> StingRay: well if they login they can run a remote X session "yes"
[08:39] <stdin> jordo23: nope, kinda stuck here
[08:39] <StingRay> but I always get X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting. Linux_galore_
[08:40] <Linux_galore_> StingRay: aah root can only start X  might have ti use sudo xinit
[08:40] <Linux_galore_> to
[08:40] <Linux_galore_> StingRay: you really need to read up on remote X sessions, its not a single page answer
[08:41] <jordo23> stdin: I want to check and see if it works in FF....how do I configure plugins in FF?
[08:41] <StingRay> I guess so, Linux_galore_, just hoped somebody did it here before me ;)
[08:41] <stdin> jordo23: did you install mozilla-plugin-gnash ?
[08:41] <Linux_galore_> StingRay: its one of those things that can be done easily but you need to read up though
[08:42] <jordo23> stdin: I installed every gnash backports package...
[08:42] <jordo23> stdin: That's what I am thinking....I think that Konq is finding the wrong plugin...
[08:42] <stdin> jordo23: the adress to check in ff is about:plugins
[08:42] <Linux_galore_> StingRay: you can create a login account that automatically start a remote X session for that user for example
[08:42] <Linux_galore_> starts*
[08:43] <StingRay> Linux_galore_ I need multiple simultaneous sessions
[08:43] <Linux_galore_> StingRay: yep, you can do that
[08:44] <jordo23> stdin: FF states that it sees the gnash plugin and that it is enabled...
[08:44] <StingRay> I guess you are speaking about autologin Linux_galore_?
[08:44] <Linux_galore_> StingRay: no gdm, xdm login
[08:44] <stdin> jordo23: try this in firefox then http://accelerateu.org/
[08:44] <Linux_galore_> StingRay: kdm can do it but isnt as nice
[08:45] <jordo23> stdin: I see a black box in the corner for a second....then it tells me I need the latest flash player...
[08:45] <D3javu> intelikey: done. thanks buddy.
[08:45] <stdin> jordo23: and on adobe.com ?
[08:45] <jordo23> stdin: I am thinking for Konq though it is a different plugin....the konq and mozilla plugin packages are separate...
[08:45] <D3javu> intelikey: oh yea, amarok don't play mp3 by default? only ogg?
[08:45] <StingRay> Linux_galore_, I cannot leave behind KDE...it a love from first sight ;)
[08:46] <intelikey> D3javu that's right  :)
[08:46] <intelikey> !mp3 | D3javu
[08:46] <ubotu> D3javu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:46] <Linux_galore_> StingRay: you can still default the desktop session to kde even with gdm
[08:46] <stdin> jordo23: yeah, but konq can use mozilla plugins too
[08:46] <D3javu> oh ok. thanks again. :-)
[08:46] <Linux_galore_> StingRay: xdm should already be installed though its the default for the X server
[08:46] <jordo23> stdin: this time at adobe.com I see the black box but do get a right click gnash menu...but nothing happens when hitting play
[08:47] <intelikey> D3javu there is a reason for the last link....    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:47] <intelikey> :)
[08:47] <intelikey> and good luck to your penguin
[08:47] <Linux_galore_> StingRay: the trick is really to setup a login session on the remote machine that automatically connects to the central X server
[08:48] <D3javu> heh, he is a nice guy.
[08:48] <stdin> jordo23: I don't know then, I've never used 64bit, ask ok #ubuntu too, they should atleast help you get it in firefox
[08:48] <jordo23> stdin: konq has the black box but doesn't give me the gnash menu
[08:48] <StingRay> Linux_galore_, the whole thing is about x11vnc. I like its compression very much
[08:49] <stdin> jordo23: is there any reason you need 64but kubuntu?
[08:49] <Linux_galore_> StingRay: yeah
[08:49] <StingRay> Linux_galore_, I just want individual xsessions, so I can bind an x11vnc to each of them
[08:49] <jordo23> stdin: not really.....but I am in too deep now....
[08:49] <StingRay> x11vnc will do the remote part just fine, Linux_galore_
[08:49] <Linux_galore_> StingRay: you can do it, its just not a simple process
[08:49] <stdin> jordo23: well, I'm out of ideas here :(
[08:49] <jordo23> stdin: thanks for the help though....at least it's some progress...
[08:49] <StingRay> I guess so, Linux_galore_. I will start with man startx
[08:50] <stdin> jordo23: you're welcome :)
[08:50] <Linux_galore_> StingRay: just find a howto on www.google.com/linux   there are heaps of them
[08:50] <StingRay> Thanks to all my helpers, Linux_galore_, stdin, intelikey
[08:51] <stdin> StingRay: I'm finally going to bed now, I'll see you later :)
[08:52] <StingRay> stdin, I hope it will be much later. Bye bye and codeless dreams...;)
[08:53] <Rob-West> SEX TIME
[09:00] <FearMoth> My D-Link WNA-1330 PCMCIA Ethernet card was automatically detected and set up when I installed Ubuntu. Does anyone know how it's set up to work? I'm trying to set up OpenSuSE on another computer and the same card is not working at all.. does it use ndiswrapper?
[09:06] <Hobbsee> FearMoth: if it was with ndiswrapper, it wouldnt work OOTB.
[09:07] <Hobbsee> FearMoth: it's probably using madwifi, if it's a dlink card
[09:08] <bky> i just installed kubuntu and my USB mouse isn't working
[09:08] <bky> it's not even detected under /dev/input
[09:32] <intelikey> oh man error zone.
[09:32] <intelikey> GLib-ERROR **: could not allocate 368220888 bytes
[09:32] <intelikey> aborting...
[09:32] <dope> can i have like a local copy of amarok open controlling the sound of a remote PC?
[09:33] <Hobbsee> dope: better to just ssh in, and run alsamixer, i would expect
[09:33] <dope> can alsamixer control playlists and stuff?
[09:33] <dope> i figured alsamixer was just volume
[09:33] <Hobbsee> no
[09:33] <Hobbsee> it's volume
[09:34] <dope> so how would i control a playlist?
[09:36] <ademan> hey i dunno wtf is up with my parent's computer, it seems to have frozen kinda, a konversation window is up, along with a print job window, right click works as soon as i ctrl+alt+f1 and kill konversation.  left click doesn't work no matter what, i tried killing konqueror, but it didn't fix my mouse
[09:37] <intelikey> ademan crtl+alt+backspace     but i would first check to runaway processes    ps -A ux
[09:38] <intelikey> why am i getting these errors ?
[09:38] <intelikey> GLib-ERROR **: could not allocate 257767578 bytes
[09:38] <intelikey> aborting...
[09:41] <ademan> intelikey: yeah no i've stopped and started X numerous times to no avail
[09:41] <ademan> also, konversation keeps starting every time i start a session, i never added it to my session startup
[09:42] <intelikey> saved state probably starting it.
[09:43] <ademan> can i disable that from the command line?
[09:43] <matthew_> ademan, make sure it's closed (check for an icon too) before you shutdown/logoff...Kubuntu, by default, saves the current session and restores it the next time you boot up...
[09:43] <ademan> matthew_: well i just flat out kill the proccess
[09:43] <eMaX_> re
[09:43] <ademan> kde is totally unusable right now, so i just ctrl+alt+f1
[09:43] <eMaX_> anyone here knows how to control when updatedb runs? i.e. how can I set a default run/time/ for cron.daily
[09:43] <ademan> do everything i can from the command line
[09:44] <ademan> on a related note, the kdm login doesnt' recognize left click either
[09:44] <ademan> i'm about to try my usb mouse there
[09:45] <intelikey> eMaX_ look in /etc/cron*daily/updatedb
[09:46] <ademan> the USB mouse works like a charm, so does that mean Xorg is messing with that mouse (which is PS/2) or is it a hardware issue? (broken button, shorted wire, broken ps/2 connector) ?
[09:47] <intelikey> ademan sounds like hardware
[09:48] <ademan> so there's no chance it's Xorg's fault? like it has some screwy setting related to that ps/2 mouse and that one only?
[09:48] <ademan> note i've never touched the xorg.conf on that machine and it's been working fine for months now
[09:48] <intelikey> broke wire, loose connection, or something
[09:49] <ademan> ok, thanks, that's too bad
[09:50] <intelikey> GLib-ERROR **: could not allocate 257767578 bytes
[09:50] <intelikey> -/+ buffers/cache:      18180     237040
[09:50] <intelikey> pluse 256m swapfile
[09:51] <intelikey> plus^
[09:51] <intelikey> the -/+ is in kbites
[09:53] <intelikey> wow... that has trimed my memory usage.    only 18m used and xorg is running   swap is off for now.  but was on when the error came.
[09:53] <intelikey> free -m
[09:54] <intelikey>              total       used       free
[09:54] <intelikey> Mem:           249         29        219
[09:54] <intelikey> -/+ buffers/cache:         17        231
[09:54] <intelikey> Swap:            0          0          0
[10:01] <n0ne> hey yal
[10:01] <n0ne> can u help me with wmvdmod.dll?
[10:02] <n0ne> i'm trying to play AVI file and i have this error
[10:02] <intelikey> paste.ubuntu-nl.org is still broken.
[10:02] <intelikey> !mp3 | n0ne
[10:02] <ubotu> n0ne: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:02] <n0ne> mp3 ?
[10:03] <intelikey> same infonode for avi
[10:03] <n0ne> oh ok
[10:03] <intelikey> !avi
[10:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:03] <intelikey> see  :)
[10:04] <Jucato> he's just lazy :)
[10:05] <intelikey> Jucato  http://pastebin.ca/312877
[10:05] <intelikey> what am i missing there ?     am i just not holding my mouth right ?
[10:06] <Jucato> ram isn't being used?
[10:06] <intelikey> sure it is.
[10:06] <Jucato> oh
[10:06] <Jucato> I'm not good at interpreting these things :P
[10:06] <intelikey> k
[10:06] <Jucato> sorry.. really
[10:07] <unix_infidel> anyone here have any canal phones?
[10:09] <ursa> Looking for help connecting by ssh to my Kubuntu system.
[10:09] <intelikey> sshd running on the remote box ?
[10:10] <ursa> Now there's a good question.  I don't think I had to do anything on my previous install of Kubuntu but perhaps I did and forgot.
[10:10] <intelikey> you did
[10:10] <intelikey> openssh-server is not a default package
[10:10] <gnomefreak> never has been iirc
[10:11] <intelikey> no not on this distro
[10:11] <ursa> I was running the same install for more than a year, so I must have done it and forgotten about it.
[10:11] <ursa> I shall visit adept and install openssh-server right now.  Will that handle enabling scp too?
[10:11] <intelikey> install ssh  (meta-package)   or  openssh-server  and set it up to suit you then run sshd
[10:12] <intelikey> http://pastebin.ca/raw/312877
[10:12] <ursa> I'll be back in a minute or two and let you know how it goes.
[10:17] <ursa> That did it of course.  You think I would remember this stuff, I always had to make sure to include this with my Red Hat installs
[10:22] <binks> hmm i seem to have 3 files in my home dit but if i try delete them i get an error that they dont exist
[10:22] <binks> can i get rid of them
[10:23] <BenjaminB> does someone has some links to configure fglrx in kubuntu?
 eMaX_ look in /etc/cron*daily/updatedb
[10:25] <eMaX_> yes. but there is only the script, not the time info
[10:25] <binks> its in the ubuntuguide
[10:26] <binks> fglrx that is
[10:26] <BenjaminB> hmm, didnt find something, but thanks ill try again ;)
[10:27] <eMaX_> anyone here uses beagled on evolution data files?
[10:27] <binks> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28ATI.29
[10:27] <BenjaminB> ah
[10:27] <BenjaminB> thanks
[10:32] <binks> is it posible to change the location of my /home folder ie mount it on a different drive
[10:33] <intelikey> you bet.
[10:33] <binks> is there a howto anywhere
[10:33] <Linux_Galore> !ati
[10:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:34] <unix_infidel> binks: using cp would work just fine.
[10:34] <intelikey> binks just add an entry in the /etc/fstab    /dev/<partition> /home   or /home/<username>  if you want it privet.   and the defaults following.
[10:34] <unix_infidel> just make sure you know what you're doing.
[10:35] <binks> hmm me no what im doin lol
[10:35] <intelikey> binks what's the partition you want to use ?
[10:36] <binks> #/dev/hda1
[10:37] <intelikey> binks what fs is it ?
[10:37] <binks> #/dev/hda1               1       30515   245111706   83  Linux
[10:37] <intelikey> fs ?
[10:38] <intelikey> fs=file system
[10:38] <binks> it just says linux if i fdisk -l
[10:38] <intelikey> like ext2 ext3 rieserfs ???
[10:38] <binks> i can format it if you like its empty atm
[10:38] <binks> prob best if i format
[10:39] <intelikey> ok sudo mke2fs -cj /dev/hda1
[10:40] <binks> is that ext2 then when its done
[10:41] <intelikey> ext3
[10:41] <binks> just for the learning part what tells it to be ext3
[10:41] <intelikey> ext2 doesn't have a journal    that what -j adds
[10:42] <intelikey> man man    man intro    man mke2fs
[10:42] <intelikey> just for the learning part
[10:43] <binks> :)
[10:43] <larson9999> shoot! i just read that linux is a sever not a desktop.
[10:44] <larson9999> i don't have the heart to tell them it's been my desktop since the late 90's and it's not a server for me.  unless you count X
[10:45] <binks> hey my only server is a ubuntu lamps
[10:45] <intelikey> binks                                                            echo '/dev/hda1 /home ext3 defaults 0 0' | sudo tee -a /etc/fstab
[10:45] <binks> it only runs mysql
[10:45] <intelikey> when it's finished formating
[10:46] <binks> ok i understand it all but the tee -a bit
[10:46] <intelikey> man tee
[10:46] <intelikey> just for the learning part
[10:46] <binks> ok that simple sorry
[10:46] <intelikey> :)
[10:46] <binks> you must be a brit with that humor
[10:46] <intelikey> lol
[10:47] <intelikey> y'all would say that about a texan
[10:47] <binks> arrr only a bit wide of the mark then
[10:48] <intelikey> binks                                                              sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media && sudo cp /home/* -R /media && sudo umount /media
[10:49] <binks> ok its still checking the drive may take a while
[10:50] <intelikey> binks  assuming that all goes as planed you can then                                                                       sudo rm -fr /home/* ;sudo mount /home
[10:51] <intelikey> wait.
[10:51] <intelikey> on that cp line we need -a
[10:51] <intelikey> -A
[10:51] <intelikey> or something
[10:51] <intelikey> let me check
[10:51] <wilman> i have been qeustioning about recording with ubuntu earlier, but have not yet found a solution. is there anyone here who is verry smart an can solve my problem?
[10:51] <wilman> my problem is that i can't record with any recording programs
[10:52] <intelikey> ok change the -R to -a   on the cp command and that should all work just fine.
[10:53] <intelikey> binks reson -R is recursive but root would own everything -a is also recursive but ownership and permissions are kept.
[10:53] <binks> intelikey                        sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media && sudo cp /home/* -a /media && sudo umount /media
[10:53] <intelikey> yes
[10:53] <binks> just reading man cp now to understand
[10:53] <BenjaminB> i think there was a package something like "systools", which had passwdgen etc in it, someone knows the correct name?
[10:54] <binks> biab need to clean up while formatting in progress
[10:55] <intelikey> BenjaminB   pwgen - Automatic Password generation
[10:56] <BenjaminB> ah thx
[10:57] <intelikey> BenjaminB or makepasswd - Generate and encrypt passwords
[10:57] <BenjaminB> hmm dont know makepasswd but i'll check it out, thx again
[10:57] <intelikey> np
[11:02] <jc-denton> hi all
[11:02] <jc-denton> the keyboard layouts disappeared under kcontrol
[11:02] <jc-denton> how an i fix that
[11:03] <matthew> hi
[11:04] <eMaX_> anyone knows how one can add annotations or stuff to pdf's? Just things like small comments
[11:05] <jc-denton> i'm sure it's a bug, but i cannot find it
[11:06] <jc-denton> it's not on known problems
[11:06] <jc-denton> but a friend of mine had the same problem
[11:10] <jordo23> What's the best program to use to mount .iso images?
[11:11] <jc-denton> mount
[11:11] <intelikey> is that a no brainer ?
[11:12] <intelikey> jordo23 mount -o loop file.iso <somedir>
[11:12] <zezelle> bonjour
[11:12] <zezelle> salut vous parler fr
[11:13] <intelikey> !fr
[11:13] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:13] <zezelle> ubotu:  cava toi
[11:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cava toi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[11:17] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock
[11:17] <MilhousePunkRock> Does someone have the default kernel configuration at hand? I need to know how Kubuntu enables PCMCIA so I can configure the kernel (for another distro) the same way...
[11:17] <jordo23> intelikey: is there a gui program to do this?
[11:17] <MilhousePunkRock> Hey intelikey!
[11:17] <MilhousePunkRock> jordo23: Learn to use the cli, that's much more powerful...
[11:17] <intelikey> jordo23 not that i know of.  but i don't gui much.
[11:17] <MilhousePunkRock> jordo23: For what purpose anyway, I just joined the channel...
[11:17] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock as to the config  i'm not default
[11:18] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock mount -o loop file.iso /something
[11:18] <MilhousePunkRock> KDE itself can do fancy stuff about mounting, as far as I know...
[11:18] <MilhousePunkRock> Not that I knew what loop does on the mount command anyway...
[11:19] <jc-denton> i fixed it
[11:19] <jc-denton> by just doing
[11:19] <jc-denton> http://rafb.net/p/0ZNOmo88.html
[11:19] <jc-denton> however there should be at least a bug report
[11:19] <jc-denton> or a fix
[11:20] <oss2021> how is every one tonight/this morning
[11:20] <intelikey> speaking of bug reports.   the app    'paul'   is buggy.  if anyone cares.
[11:21] <intelikey> doesn't allocate memory correctly.
[11:21] <wilman> how does the cat directory work?
[11:21] <wilman> ~cat
[11:22] <wilman> ubotu: cat
[11:22] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[11:22] <intelikey> man cat
[11:22] <wilman> ok
[11:25] <jordo23> MilhousePunkRock: I want to install a game from an iso image...
[11:25] <MilhousePunkRock> jordo23: Why don't you just burn the iso and install from CD? ;-)
[11:26] <aspedia> I have to migrate one machine mails from kontact to MS thunderbird :(
[11:26] <intelikey> back to the bug in 'paul'   "http://pastebin.ca/raw/312877"  <<< that's what's happening with it.   and i tried xloadimage and it works with the same file   also tested against several files    same accross the board unless the .tiff is less than 1024x800 pixels  then paul worked
[11:26] <jordo23> MilhousePunkRock: honestly.....because I am out of CD's lol
[11:26] <MilhousePunkRock> aspedia: MS THUNDERBIRD? Don't let the guys from Mozilla read that...
[11:26] <aspedia> someone can help me with that issue? I can only find the other way
[11:26] <aspedia> sorry, not my idea, ask my boss :(
[11:27] <MilhousePunkRock> aspedia: As a sidenote, Thunderbird is NOT by M$
[11:27] <forge> I think he meant thunderbird from in windows
[11:27] <jordo23> MilhousePunkRock: plus I was just wondering if there was a gui tool like NERO or DAemon Tools in windows...
[11:27] <MilhousePunkRock> aspedia: And on your topic, a simple solution could be to check which export options KMail has that Thunderbird can import again...
[11:28] <intelikey> jordo23 but linux doesn't need a "tool"  you simply mount the iso
[11:28] <MilhousePunkRock> jordo23: Did you do the mandatory explicit google research on it?
[11:28] <intelikey> M$ needs a "tool" to do that because it cant 'mount' the iso
[11:28] <aspedia> I can not find an export function in kmail
[11:29] <jordo23> MilhousePunkRock: I was looking at a program on kde apps called mountiso, but didn't see it in Ubuntu's package search.....just kind of wondering.....no big deal...
[11:29] <ForgeAus> nero can "mount" iso's
[11:29] <Jucato> !iso
[11:29] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[11:30] <ForgeAus> is there an iso kio-slave?
[11:30] <intelikey> ForgeAus possably-ossably-ossably
[11:30] <ForgeAus> lol intelikey :)
[11:30] <ForgeAus> I just thought it'd be interesting thats all
[11:31] <wilman> anyone who can record with ubuntu?
[11:31] <wilman> cause i see a lot of problems with recording and ubuntu
[11:31] <intelikey> wilman record what ?
[11:31] <wilman> sound
[11:31] <intelikey> rec
[11:31] <wilman> from the mic or linein channel
[11:31] <intelikey> yep
[11:31] <intelikey> audacity too
[11:31] <wilman> hmm
[11:31] <wilman> you never did anything for it?
[11:32] <intelikey> ?
[11:32] <intelikey> select the input device
[11:32] <intelikey> in audacity that it.
[11:32] <n0ne> hey yal
[11:32] <n0ne> again :D
[11:33] <intelikey> n0ne
[11:33] <n0ne> is there some man about installing games?
[11:33] <n0ne> what's up intelikey! :)
[11:33] <intelikey> tired
[11:33] <n0ne> yea, i've bored u) sorry)
[11:33] <wilman> no
[11:33] <n0ne> but i'm linux noob and just wanna help)
[11:33] <wilman> i can't record with arecord either
[11:33] <wilman> and i don't get feedback from my mic
[11:35] <n0ne> intelikey, can u gimme some help about rpm and deb format, just how to install games\programs in this format?
[11:35] <intelikey> haven't "bored" me  i've been at it for too long.   19hours now
[11:35] <intelikey> n0ne in .deb   do    sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[11:36] <intelikey> !rpm
[11:36] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[11:36] <n0ne> thx alot
[11:36] <intelikey> np
[11:37] <n0ne> and one more, where game will be installed? how can i make it install to /home/n0ne/games for example?
[11:37] <intelikey> note  try to always use  .deb packages made for your release and version of linux.
[11:38] <vge> n0ne: what games are you installing?
[11:38] <n0ne> armagetron :)
[11:39] <vge> no experience with it
[11:39] <waylandbill> if there isn't a deb for your distro, and you have to use source, checkinstall is nice if you want to remove it later.
[11:39] <n0ne> erm...it's requires SDL driver 0_0
[11:39] <n0ne> sdl library
[11:39] <n0ne> !sdl
[11:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sdl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <intelikey> how to force install location      man dpkg        man man    for how to use man pages.        man less      is a good read also.    (less is used as the pager that man puts text in)     but you can always use  dpkg -L <packagename>   to see where/what it installed     and if you pipe that through   | grep bin/      it will only show the executables
[11:40] <n0ne> thx)
[11:41] <n0ne> do you know, is there counter-strike source on linux? :D
[11:41] <vge> n0ne: sudo apt-get install armagetron
[11:41] <vge> works fine after that
[11:41] <intelikey> google.com/linux    search counter-strike
[11:42] <n0ne> oh thx for that thing with armagetron ::D
[11:42] <vge> i would go with native linux games anyway if i would game with kubuntu
[11:43] <vge> quake series, enemy territory and things like that
[11:43] <n0ne> savage?
[11:43] <waylandbill> I've heard people say they've run CS under wine, but I've never done it.
[11:43] <intelikey> n0ne there aren't that many games in linux really      apt-cache search game | grep -v ^lib | less
[11:44] <n0ne> yea, i know that it's now windows :D just want to relax sometime)
[11:44] <intelikey>  apt-cache search game | grep -v ^lib | less
[11:44] <vge> i would go with enemy territory
[11:45] <n0ne> intelikey, it's empty :(
[11:45] <vge> actually all good FPS games are for linux too, and i don't count CS here eaven it's doable with wine
[11:45] <n0ne> oh my fault, just wrote cashe :D
[11:46] <intelikey> empty
[11:46] <MilhousePunkRock> vge: America's Army is not available for linux in the last few releases
[11:46] <intelikey> apt-cache search game | grep -v ^lib | wc -l
[11:46] <intelikey> 675
[11:47] <intelikey> anyone have a higher count ?
[11:48] <waylandbill> 742
[11:48] <intelikey> edgy ?
[11:48] <waylandbill> yes
[11:48] <intelikey> k
[11:49] <intelikey> oh i wonder if any are in restricted   i don't have that in my sources.list
[11:50] <intelikey> or plf  for that matter
[11:50] <vge> MilhousePunkRock: donno why, but never liked it, but noone can like every game :)
[11:50] <MilhousePunkRock> vge: It's far less arcade'ish than the usual suspects are...
[11:51] <MilhousePunkRock> vge: As you suggested ET, do you know True Combat:Elite?
[11:51] <intelikey> hehhe  i could paste my sources.list and not flood the channel.   it's only three lines long
[11:52] <MilhousePunkRock> intelikey: Three lines is already considered flooding in some channels... ;-)
[11:52] <intelikey> shouldn't be.
[11:52] <vge> MilhousePunkRock: actually i just play MUOnline that's only for windows and i have seperate computer just for it, havent really gamed in years
[11:53] <intelikey> if it were a post that was one entry that required three idents  then i could see that.  but i mean really only three lines.
[11:54] <intelikey> something like                                                             d                                                              y                                                                q                                  sd                                             b                                                                    t                                                                       
[11:54] <intelikey> *3
[11:55] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main universe multiverse
[11:55] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main universe multiverse
[11:55] <intelikey> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main universe multiverse
[11:55] <intelikey> that is three lines but shorter than that one above it.
[11:56] <MilhousePunkRock> Whoever asked about CS earlier (I am too lazy to scroll up) Wolfenstein Enemy Territory with the True Combat: Elite mod will give you a pretty similar, free and native Linux gaming experience...
[11:57] <genii> Crystal Space 3D ?
[11:58] <genii> (I was trying to compile that earlier today on a cygwin XP box without success)
[11:59] <intelikey> :)
[11:59] <genii> intelikey :)
[11:59] <genii> stdin Hey you around?
[12:00] <genii> Anyone here use cygwin? It's been giving me some headaches
[12:00] <intelikey> !seen stdin
[12:01] <intelikey> [ubotu(n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu)]  I last saw stdin
[12:01] <intelikey>           (n=tez@unaffiliated/binary2k2) 3h 7m 41s ago, quiting
[12:01] <waylandbill> genii, what seems to be the problem?
[12:02] <genii> waylandhill cygwin related?
[12:03] <waylandbill> yeah. what's your issue?
[12:04] <yelonek> hi, do you use any antivirus/firewall/anything like that ?
[12:04] <yelonek> I've seen avast! for linux
[12:04] <yelonek> is it any useful ?
[12:04] <genii> waylandbill Trying to compile crystalspace3d reports zlib not found no matter what. And then the main engine doesn't run cuz it works on some VFS  dependant on finding zlib. So the libs are installed, pkg-config knows where they are and so it baffles me
[12:05] <intelikey> yelonek i never have used anything like that.   some do when running a mail server or such
[12:05] <waylandbill> genii, is there a configure switch to tell it where to find it?
[12:06] <genii> waylandbill yeah something like --configure-zlib=/lib   still doesn't work
[12:07] <intelikey> cygwin == an scba device for linux to live in M$ space        hehhe
[12:08] <genii> intelikey, stupid thing is I can get it to compile on this 5.10 laptop no probs. But my buddy is developing on an XP box
[12:08] <n0ne> is there any clone of "wine" in ubuntu?
[12:08] <intelikey> clone ?
[12:08] <genii> clone?
[12:08] <intelikey> wine is there
[12:08] <intelikey> !wine
[12:08] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:08] <intelikey> !info wine
[12:09] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB
[12:09] <n0ne> yea thx
[12:09] <intelikey> !cedega
[12:09] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[12:09] <n0ne> what's better cedega or wine? :)
[12:10] <ForgeAus> theres also crossover office
[12:10] <genii> I've heard more things run on cedega but ymmv
[12:10] <intelikey> read the links https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine  http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[12:10] <waylandbill> apples and oranges
[12:10] <ForgeAus> but thats non-free  proprietry stuff
[12:10] <n0ne> i'm already reading
[12:10] <waylandbill> genii, did you try building zlib from source?
[12:10] <milaks> Hi. How can I put some program to automatically start after kde is loaded?
[12:11] <genii> waylandbill Well, thats my last option LOL
[12:11] <intelikey> we're not doing your home work for you kid.  n0ne is his name and none is the help he'll get.
[12:12] <MilhousePunkRock> milaks: Add a link to in KDE's autostart folder
[12:12] <intelikey> milaks that's what ~/.kde/Autostart  is for
[12:12] <waylandbill> milaks: a symbolic link in ~/.kde/Autostart
[12:12] <n0ne> ok ok, calm down, i'm leaving
[12:12] <genii> waylandbill The crystalspace source uses Jam instead of the usual make command to compile,perhaps it's something to do with that as well
[12:12] <milaks> Thanks guys.
[12:12] <genii> waylandbill, Anyhow it's driving me up the wall
[12:13] <MilhousePunkRock> milaks: Depending on how you set up KDE to handle sessions, it might even start the apps that were running when you shut it down the last time...
[12:13] <waylandbill> genii, yeah. boost uses that. I had issues getting it to go under cygwin and mingw, but it did go. Something about / needing to be \ or the other way around. I think you have to examine the makefile or Jams equiv.
[12:14] <intelikey> that's default MilhousePunkRock
[12:14] <genii> waylandbill My second to last option at this point would be to cross-compile from this box for win32 at least for the core executable perhaps
[12:14] <intelikey> waylandbill yes linux / == M$ \
[12:15] <adi> kubuntu rulez!!!
[12:15] <waylandbill> genii, yes a mingw chroot cross-compile would work.
[12:16] <faeryNatsuki> hello
[12:16] <genii> waylandbill Hmm. Thanks for the input on this
[12:16] <faeryNatsuki> somebody knows how to set kopete to record or log my chats?
[12:16] <waylandbill> intellikey, but cygwin uses / ..  I think when it calls the Jam executable the Jam wants \ ... it's like a real hack job
[12:17] <intelikey> waylandbill yeah scba gear is always a pain
[12:17] <genii> Yeah I already went into the makefile and configure.in  and all that to poke around but not getting me much insight LOL
[12:17] <waylandbill> genii, good luck
[12:18] <waylandbill> I wish I remembered what I did, but I didn't log it and didn't write it down... bad me. lol
[12:18] <waylandbill> it was a pain to get it to compile I do remember that much
[12:19] <intelikey> faeryNatsuki i saw kopete one time... didn't like it.  haven't see it sense.
[12:19] <Jucato> (since)
[12:20] <genii> intelikey Thx
[12:20] <genii> Jucato Heh :) Quiet over there
[12:20] <intelikey> "any more" Jucato
[12:20] <Jucato> :P
[12:20] <intelikey> what i can't spell i can replace.
[12:20] <faeryNatsuki> intelikey: do you have a better option to use yahoo messenger than kopete?
[12:20] <Jucato> s/sense/since/g
[12:21] <intelikey> faeryNatsuki no.
[12:21] <faeryNatsuki> intelikey: i was looking for one a long time, i'm using kopete until i found it
[12:21] <faeryNatsuki> :(
[12:21] <intelikey> gaim ?
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[12:21] <faeryNatsuki> gaim lacks in options
[12:22] <genii> btw as a note to anyone thinking of disassembling their Thinkpad... (which I did earlier today) It's an extreme headache
[12:22] <genii> interesting pin config on the cpu too
[12:23] <genii> faeryNatsuki, Well that is why it has a plugin system
[12:24] <tibbar> I just got a a wireless a4tech optical mouse and I wanna assign numpad keys 2 it? how...
[12:25] <faeryNatsuki> mmmm, i'll try gaim, then i take a choice or go back ans ask again :)
[12:25] <faeryNatsuki> thanks genii
[12:25] <genii> faeryNatsuki, Hope you find something suitable :)
[12:25] <faeryNatsuki> thanks ;)
[12:26] <genii> tibbar I'm not even sure there's a way to do that without some special mouse driver
[12:27] <tibbar> genii: do u know where I can get drivers?
[12:27] <intelikey> but hey youre talking to a guy that'll use    wget -O -  http://someurl.net | less      to read a web page....
[12:27] <genii> tibbar No , if they even exist yet
[12:28] <tibbar> genii: I just searched on google and found some but they are all for windows
[12:29] <genii> tibbar The basic problem is that the type of input the mouse gives is different from the type of input a keyboard gives
[12:30] <genii> tibbar If there is any kind of way to do it, it may be within the input sections of xorg.conf, I am going there now to look at the way it is laid out
[12:31] <tibbar> genii: is it really that complicated, cause all my friends assign like middle mouse to numpad 8. (to use items in dota)
[12:32] <intelikey> reasigning middle click so it doesn't paste ???
[12:33] <tibbar> well they use windows... :(
[12:33] <intelikey> figures
[12:34] <tibbar> I have like a 8 button mouse I must be able to reassign at least one of them
[12:34] <intelikey> tibbar have you looked in kcontrol
[12:34] <intelikey> just a thought
[12:35] <tibbar> kcontrol? the control center
[12:35] <intelikey> yes
[12:35] <intelikey> alt+f2   type in    kcontrol
[12:36] <tibbar> well no, im quite new to Linux
[12:36] <tibbar> input actions?
[12:37] <waylandbill> in kopete I accidently removed the menu from a chat window. how can I get it back?
[12:38] <intelikey> alt+M   ?
[12:38] <waylandbill> nope.
[12:38] <intelikey> alt+f9
[12:38] <genii> Well mouse reassignment looks possible, if convoluted
[12:39] <waylandbill> ctrl-m it was
[12:39] <intelikey> like i said saw kopete one time.
[12:39] <tibbar> genii: convoluted?
[12:41] <tibbar> where in the kcontrol should I look
[12:41] <genii> tibbar I'm still looking into it right now. But it looks possible to do
[12:41] <tibbar> thanks
[12:41] <intelikey> parifreals mouse
[12:42] <intelikey> i dont really know
[12:42] <yelonek> grrr, anyone using OpenOffice ?
[12:43] <genii> tibbar Is this an Intellipoint mouse?
[12:44] <tibbar> don't think so
[12:44] <tibbar> it does not say that it has...
[12:45] <genii> OK
[12:45] <tibbar> can't you reassign at the input actoins?
[12:45] <MilhousePunkRock> yelonek: Yes, me, what's up with it?
[12:46] <yelonek> MilhousePunkRock: dictionary's language keeps changing to English
[12:46] <yelonek> MilhousePunkRock: I want it to be Polish
[12:46] <yelonek> MilhousePunkRock: but I found some macro
[12:46] <yelonek> maybe I will manage
[12:47] <johey> Is there any way to force the screen to rotate by 90 degrees in KDE, even if the monitor does not have a pivot feature?
[12:47] <MilhousePunkRock> hmm, no idea, yelonek. Maybe you are better off asking in some OOo channel? Preferably the polish one, if there is one
[12:47] <yelonek> good point ;
[12:47] <yelonek> ;)
[12:47] <yelonek> thx
[12:51] <genii> tibbar How comfortable do you feel on the command-line?
[12:51] <yelonek> !openoffice
[12:51] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[12:51] <tibbar> genii: well I like it, but im still quite new to linux
[12:53] <lauraglow> hello
[12:55] <genii> tibbar Basically, the thing can be done but it takes some hand-editing of configuration files and son. So not for the faint. The main idea of what needs to be done can be found here  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=171396&page=2
[12:56] <genii> tibbar buttons 4 and 5 seem to be always left and right click. So buttons 1,2,3,6,7,8 need to be put into the xorg.conf file as an example there shows about midway down the page
[12:57] <lauraglow> I have kubuntu 6.06 and a speetouch usb modem. trying to install a driver for it, I found that no gcc or make are present. how do i install them from the dvd?
[12:57] <tibbar> genii: ok i'll look into it
[12:57] <genii> lauraglow, from a konsole, do:   sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:58] <lauraglow> i did that, and i got a message saying "build-essential" package not found
[12:58] <genii> lauraglow, If you have not yet, do first   sudo apt-get update
[12:59] <lauraglow> genii and that needs to connect to the internet?
[01:00] <genii> lauraglow, It will try whatever places it finds in your /etc/apt/sources.list   file.Usually on the internet tho, yes
[01:00] <lauraglow> how can i do for it to look en the dvd?
[01:00] <genii> If someone remembers the syntax for cdrom apt-get pls tell her :)
[01:02] <intelikey> SYNOPSIS
[01:02] <intelikey>        apt-cdrom [-hvrmfan]  [-d=cdrom mount point]  [-o=config string] 
[01:02] <intelikey>                  [-c=file]  [add | ident] 
[01:02] <genii> lauraglow, There is an option for apt-get which gets from the cd intead. You may find the exact syntax by  doing: man apt-get          and looking at the manual page
[01:02] <genii> intelikey Heh :) I knew someone would remember
[01:05] <genii> intelikey What, that uncomments the cdrom entry in sources.list?
[01:05] <intelikey> yep
[01:05] <intelikey> or adds the entry if it's not there.
[01:05] <intelikey> also updates the database
[01:05] <genii> handy
[01:06] <intelikey> then just comment out the cd when you don't want it to use it
[01:06] <genii> does the block comment way of /*    */ work there for nullifying entire blocks of repos?
[01:07] <genii> (just curious)
[01:07] <HymnToLife> genii, why don't you just try for yourself ? :p
[01:07] <HymnToLife> I don't think it works though
[01:07] <intelikey> i don't think so
[01:07] <intelikey> but try it.
[01:08] <genii> HymnToLife, I'm on a livecd so can't try right now:)
[01:08] <HymnToLife> genii, why not ?
[01:08] <HymnToLife> the life CD has nano and apt-get iirc :p
[01:08] <HymnToLife> live*
[01:08] <intelikey> yeah why not?
[01:08] <genii> interesting
[01:08] <genii> brb :)
[01:08] <intelikey> and /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:09] <intelikey> and i'm went.
[01:09] <tibbar_> genii: I looked at the howto its really confusing and I don't understand anything :(
[01:09] <intelikey> you're right, i'm left.
[01:10] <genii> E: Type '/*' is not known on line 2 in source list
[01:10] <genii> :(
[01:10] <genii> Well now we know
[01:11] <Lynoure> genii: use # for commenting, and not that type of commenting
[01:11] <Lynoure> genii: # is pretty much the default for config files on Linux
[01:11] <genii> Lynoure Yes, it was an experiment. Any block-coment method for there?
[01:13] <peter__> Hi,  I'm trying to install Realplayer. It's asking me to enter a prefix for symbolic links. What do does it mean?
[01:14] <Lynoure> genii: most editors have "comment the selection" feature if you do not want to comment line by line
[01:14] <genii> hmm
[01:16] <metro-polisie> !nvidia
[01:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:18] <metro-polisie> tibbar are you andre?
[01:18] <metro-polisie> tibbar_ are you andre?
[01:20] <StingRay> !XKEYBOARD
[01:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about XKEYBOARD - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:20] <StingRay> Can somebody tell me how to load extension XKEYBOARD on :1
[01:20] <StingRay> it loads only 7 X extensions...on :0 there are 27
[01:21] <JohnFlux> StingRay: maybe try on #xorg-devel
[01:22] <StingRay> !xorg-devel
[01:22] <JohnFlux> StingRay: maybe someone like keithp can help
[01:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorg-devel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:22] <StingRay> I will be grateful...
[01:22] <tibbar__> genii: thanks that fixed some things, I can go back and forth in firefox, but I still don't know how to assign my other mouse buttons to numpad
[01:22] <StingRay> this is a little beyond my knowledge
[01:22] <metro-polisie> i have linux-image...23 & 27 is that bad?
[01:23] <metro-polisie> tibbar__: hello
[01:23] <ailean> hey, can anyone explain why adept wants to remove my nvidia drivers?
[01:23] <tibbar__> metro-polisie: imba!
[01:23] <tibbar__> metro-polisie: willie kom maak my mouse fixed!
[01:23] <metro-polisie> tibbar__: eng!
[01:24] <tibbar__> metro-polisie: it is half
[01:24] <metro-polisie> tibbar__: can u c if u have linux-image... 23 & 27 installed?
[01:24] <tibbar__> metro-polisie: where?
[01:24] <metro-polisie> tibbar__: adept
[01:26] <metro-polisie> 2all how do i kill the xserver i tried init 1 but made my pc restart
[01:26] <tibbar__> metro-polisie: there is no linux-image 23 im my adept
[01:26] <metro-polisie> tibbar__: && 27?
[01:27] <lupine_85> ailean: using unofficial packages?
[01:27] <tibbar__> metro-polisie: nope the closest to that is linux-image-generic
[01:29] <metro-polisie> tibbar: linux-image-2.6.15-23 ht cam & linux-image-2.6.15-27 lol
[01:29] <metro-polisie> !init
[01:29] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[01:30] <tibbar> metro-polisie: I have linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic installed
[01:30] <metro-polisie> !killx
[01:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about killx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:30] <metro-polisie> tibbar: dapper hti -generic ni
[01:30] <cox377> does anyone here run smoothwall?
[01:31] <ailean> lupine_85, yeah
[01:31] <cox377> basically.. on windows i used to use an application called winscp to edit smoothwall via ssh, i'm looking for a linux eqivelent to use that has a gui
[01:31] <bronze_0_1> hi guys, I just added apt-get installand tried a ./configure on GNU math library package.  The ./configure reports no gcc found but which finds it and it appears to run when invoked by hand.  Any ideas why the ./configure wouldn't find it?
[01:31] <lupine_85> ailean: then wait
[01:31] <lupine_85> I'm getting an update out now
[01:31] <lupine_85> assuming you're using http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk
[01:31] <bronze_0_1> Sorry , dropped an important word
[01:32] <tibbar__> metro-polisie: willie u must come home to fix my mouse's side buttons, im using waldo's mouse
[01:32] <bronze_0_1> hi guys, I just added apt-get installand tried a ./configure on GNU math library package.  The ./configure reports no gcc found but which finds it and it appears to run when invoked by hand.  Any ideas why the ./configure wouldn't find it?
[01:32] <bronze_0_1> rats, one last try
[01:32] <Tm_T> cox377: Konqueror, you can split window... doh, it's hidden in basic Kubuntu Konqi? :o
[01:32] <bronze_0_1> hi guys, I just added apt-get installand tried a ./configure on GNU math library package.  The ./configure reports no gcc found but which finds it and it appears to run when invoked by hand.  Any ideas why the ./configure wouldn't find it?
[01:32] <genii> metro-polisie, Why not just ctrl-alt-backspace?  But the thing is that the login manager also uses X so it will usually kill your desktop session but then go back to kdm and so on. Do you want to prevent X from starting when you boot or womething?
[01:32] <bronze_0_1> The missing word is gcc, right after install.
[01:33] <metro-polisie> genii: nv drivers not working in dapper want to install offical nv drivers (.run)
[01:33] <cox377> Tm_T: cheers, i shall take a look
[01:34] <Tm_T> cox377: Anyway, just split it and you have that "two-side" view etc.
[01:34] <Tm_T> cox377: You can even open Konsole inside Konqueror window if you like. ;)
[01:34] <cox377> Tm_T: what do i put into the directory bar to connect to it?
[01:34] <cox377> How do i open konsole?
[01:34] <cox377> through it
[01:35] <ailean> lupine_85, thanks . . . i just realised that you maintain this repo...
[01:35] <lupine_85> :)
[01:35] <Tm_T> cox377: sftp://user@host I think
[01:35] <genii> metro-polisie, Even if you are messing with the drivers you do not need to quit X for that. You just drop to the kdm scren after and then choose the option there to restart the server
[01:36] <cox377> Tm_T: ok.. shall tell yah if it's that in 2 secs
[01:36] <Tm_T> cox377: Hmm, can't remember default shortcut, check from settings. No idea if it can be found from menu too.
[01:36] <lupine_85> ailean: are you running the 9746 or 9631 drivers right now
[01:36] <lupine_85> and amd64 or i386?
[01:36] <metro-polisie> genii: i will try that btw is kdm the login screen?
[01:36] <ailean> lupine_85, 9629 actually, and i386
[01:36] <genii> metro-polisie, Yes
[01:36] <lupine_85> ho hum, old drivers are ollllld
[01:37] <ailean> lupine_85, but adept should want to upgrade me, right? instead of removing what i have installed
[01:37] <lupine_85> assuming the packages are there
[01:37] <lupine_85> it's trying to remove old packages to get new ones in
[01:37] <lupine_85> there isn't a matching l-r-m from met "yet"
[01:37] <lupine_85> me*
[01:38] <ailean> lupine_85, what do you recommend i do then?
[01:38] <lupine_85> wait
[01:38] <ailean> sure
[01:38] <lupine_85> for ~1 hr at the most
[01:38] <D3javu> eh, i was trying to install firefox via adept but there was only firefox 1.5.
[01:38] <cox377> Tm_T: checked sftp://root@192.168.0.1:222 but no joy
[01:39] <Tm_T> cox377: Hm?
[01:39] <tibbar__> Section "InputDevice"
[01:39] <Tm_T> Let me try...
[01:39] <tibbar__>         Identifier      "Configured Mouse"
[01:39] <tibbar__>         Driver          "mouse"
[01:39] <tibbar__>         Option          "CorePointer"
[01:39] <Tm_T> tibbar__: Krhm!
[01:39] <tibbar__>         Option          "Device"                "/dev/input/mice"
[01:39] <tibbar__>         Option          "Protocol"              "ExplorerPS/2"
[01:39] <tibbar__>         Option          "ButtonMapping"         "1 2 3 6 7"
[01:39] <tibbar__>         Option          "ZAxisMapping"          "4 5"
[01:39] <tibbar__> EndSection
[01:39] <tibbar__> oops
[01:39] <ailean> ok lupine_85 - message me when you're free. cheers :)
[01:39] <Tm_T> !paste
[01:39] <ubotu> paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[01:39] <tibbar__> sorry
[01:39] <genii> !pastebin | tibbar__
[01:39] <ubotu> tibbar__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:40] <cox377> Tm_T: i'm just downloading secpanel, hopefully that shall do it
[01:40] <tibbar__> tibbar: hello
[01:40] <genii> tibbar__ But yes, I think that is the correct method to go about trying
[01:40] <Tm_T> cox377: Well Konqueror _should_ work.
[01:42] <Tm_T> cox377: Work.
[01:43] <Tm_T> cox377: Dunno why it took several times until it got through.
[01:44] <tibbar_> can somone tell me how to assign my mouse button 6 to numpad 8
[01:44] <Tm_T> cox377: Anyway, sftp://user@host:port should work, if it whines some silly ssh error then keep trying, should eventually work.
[01:45] <metro-polisie> genii: how do i go back after i killed x?
[01:47] <genii> metro-polisie, After changing X stuff, you exit KDE to the login screen. Then from there on the options menu you can re-start the X server.If the login screen appears agin you know that the changes you made work at least with that part. Then just login again to KDE
[01:48] <genii> metellius, If the login screen cannot reappear, this means X is now messed up
[01:48] <genii> arg
[01:48] <genii> metro-polisie,  If the login screen cannot reappear, this means X is now messed up
[01:49] <metro-polisie> i know my x is messed up but i use vesa then x works thats wat i am trying to fix
[01:50] <metro-polisie> anyways the nv driver wanted gcc and kernel src so i installed kernal headers and gcc
[01:50] <lupine_85> metro-polisie: error messages are to be found in /var/log
[01:50] <lupine_85> probably Xorg.0.log
[01:50] <lupine_85> pastebin it and let's see what's the matter :)
[01:51] <genii> metro-polisie, What I am saying is that if you choose the option from the login screen to restart the X server and the login screen reappears fine, the changes you made whatever they happened to be were such that the X server is at least OK enough to restart
[01:51] <metro-polisie> lupine_85: i alreadly uninstalled nvidia-glx.deb...
[01:51] <lupine_85> and you installed the nvidia binary drivers from $somewhere_else ?
[01:51] <lupine_85> in that case, sudo modprobe -r nvidia && sudo modprobe nvidia
[01:52] <metro-polisie> lupine_85: i am still busy installing the nv drivers
[01:52] <lupine_85> eh
[01:52] <metro-polisie> lupine_85: the .run ones (9746)
[01:52] <lupine_85> so you want /etc/init.d/?dm reload ?
[01:53] <metro-polisie> i'll try that
[01:55] <D3javu> yikes, guys. Any idea why can't install firefox via apt-get? firefox: Depends: libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.9.0) but it is not installable <-- few errors like this
[01:55] <D3javu> but i've updated my system before try install it
[01:57] <metro-polisie> lupine_85: it works thx
[01:58] <metro-polisie> lupine_85: but i needed make so i installed make now.. .:P
[01:59] <metro-polisie> lupine_85: isn't there a site that says what apps i need because all this killing x and restarting it to see what i need is taking so long
[02:09] <metro-polisie> !kernel source
[02:09] <ubotu> To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[02:09] <metro-polisie> lol didn't think that would work :P
[02:15] <genii> !zliblg
[02:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zliblg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:15] <genii> !info zliblg
[02:15] <ubotu> Package zliblg does not exist in any distro I know
[02:15] <genii> bah
[02:15] <genii> !info zlib
[02:15] <ubotu> Package zlib does not exist in any distro I know
[02:15] <genii> !info libz
[02:15] <ubotu> Package libz does not exist in any distro I know
[02:15] <genii> Bizarre
[02:16] <genii> !libz
[02:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:17] <genii> !glibz
[02:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glibz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:18] <Jucato> genii: ...
[02:19] <genii> Jucato, Yeah i know bot abuse
[02:19] <genii> LOL
[02:19] <Jucato> :)
[02:21] <genii> Jucato, Strangely apt-cache search   on this 5.10 box shows quite a few zlib/libz results but installing them seems nigh impossible
[02:21] <Jucato> hm..
[02:22] <dwidmann> I think the bot likes it ;)
[02:22] <Jucato> you're looking for zlib?
[02:22] <stamen> 
[02:22] <stamen> hi
[02:22] <stamen> what is hyper active memory
[02:22] <genii> Jucato Well, the lib for it
[02:23] <dwidmann> memory that has had too much caffeine and sugar
[02:24] <dwidmann> (just kidding)
[02:24] <HexJam> Guys, I was wondering if you could help me, in /var/log my 'kern.log' 'messages' 'syslog' files are being constantly filled up with this message:
[02:24] <HexJam>    atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0x81 on isa0060/serio0).
[02:24] <HexJam>    atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e001 <keycode>' to make it known.
[02:24] <genii> Jucato, I'm trying to cross-compile something on this 5.10 for target win32 and it chokes failing to find zlib and so on
[02:24] <HexJam> This message is produced even when I don't touch the keyboard (I checked this by putting a tail -f on them & leaving the computer alone) However my KB is a wireless one & when I take out the batteries this message stops.  At a guess I think it my be some kind of 'ping' between the KB & reciever.
[02:24] <HexJam> After searching the web a bit I found this link:
[02:24] <HexJam>    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=119499
[02:24] <HexJam> where people had a similar problem, but the solution doesn't work for me, because when I open up  /usr/share/hotkey-setup/generic.hk the file is empty.  Any ideas?
[02:25] <Jucato> !info zlibc | genii
[02:25] <ubotu> zlibc: Uncompressing C Library. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9k-2 (edgy), package size 67 kB, installed size 280 kB
[02:26] <genii> Jucato, smartass
[02:26] <genii> LOL
[02:26] <Jucato> genii: oh I see where you're going wrong
[02:26] <Jucato> !info zlib1g | genii
[02:26] <ubotu> zlib1g: compression library - runtime. In component main, is required. Version 1:1.2.3-13ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 69 kB, installed size 160 kB
[02:26] <Jucato> it's a '1', not a small 'L'
[02:26] <andreasw> hi
[02:26] <genii> Jucato Aha!
[02:26] <genii> Yeah was driving me nuts
[02:27] <Jucato> genii: but if you're compiling you should get the -dev package for it
[02:27] <genii> :)
[02:28] <aleksanteri> hey where's the kubuntu font directory?
[02:29] <genii> !info gzlibc
[02:29] <ubotu> Package gzlibc does not exist in any distro I know
[02:29] <Jucato> genii: apt-cache search is better at these things
[02:29] <andreasw> glibc?
[02:29] <andreasw> maybe
[02:29] <Jucato> there's also no gzlibc
[02:29] <Jucato> aleksanteri: easiter to type in fonts:/ in Konqueror
[02:30] <HexJam> After searching the web a bit I found this link:
[02:30] <HexJam>    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=119499
[02:30] <HexJam> where people had a similar problem, but the solution doesn't work for me, because when I open up  /usr/share/hotkey-setup/generic.hk the file is empty.  Any ideas?
[02:30] <genii> Jucato Yeah I'm beginning to suspect
[02:30] <aleksanteri> ok ty Jucato :P
[02:30] <Jucato> aleksanteri: but to be exact, system fonts are in /usr/share/fonts, user fonts would be in ~/.fonts (iirc)
[02:30] <aleksanteri> ok thx :P
[02:30] <aleksanteri> was looking for that
[02:30] <Gingillo> how to open dekorator? i don't find the command ;_;
[02:31] <Jucato> Gingillo: it's not a program. it's a window decoration
[02:31] <Jucato> Sytem Settings -> Appearance -> Window Decorations
[02:31] <genii> Well, time for a nap ... have fun all
[02:31] <genii> Jucato, Thanks again
[02:31] <Jucato> :P
[02:31] <Jucato> genii: you owe ubotu a snack
[02:31] <genii> !botsnack
[02:31] <ubotu> Yum!
[02:31] <genii> :)
[02:31] <Jucato> hehe :)
[02:37] <aleksanteri> ok how to reload the fonts?
[02:38] <Jucato> ?
[02:38] <Jucato> did you use the font installer?
[02:38] <aleksanteri> uhhh
[02:38] <aleksanteri> i just did cut/paste
[02:38] <aleksanteri> oh no
[02:39] <Jucato> oh...
[02:39] <Jucato> anyway, the fonts should be in your list already
[02:39] <aleksanteri> oh
[02:39] <Jucato> just restart the app you want to use it in
[02:39] <aleksanteri> oh
[02:40] <giuseppe_> salve c' qlc italiano tra voi?
[02:40] <aleksanteri> nice, ty :)
[02:40] <aleksanteri> !blablabla
[02:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about blablabla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:40] <aleksanteri> !it|giuseppe_
[02:40] <ubotu> giuseppe_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:42] <tibbar__> can somone tell me how to assign my mouse button 6 to numpad 8?
[02:47] <tibbar> metro-polisie's drivers is working 100% now (9646)
[02:48] <tibbar> thx lupine_85
[02:48] <lupine_85> np
[02:52] <acemo> when running apt-get update, im getting an unusual error from gpg, saying my wine repository doesnt has the right key
[02:53] <acemo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1155/ here is the exact output
[02:53] <acemo> but wine repository doesnt needs gpg keys right? :S
[02:54] <tibbar> can some one help me asign my keyboard buttons to mouse button's
[02:55] <pirx_> hello
[02:55] <pirx_> POLAND server ?
[02:56] <tibbar> i use the same server for wine...
[02:56] <tibbar> acemo: is that in your repository?
[02:56] <acemo> sec, lemme paste my repository
[02:56] <Tox> hi , where can i find a tool to close window forced, i use it when had ubuntu
[02:56] <acemo> wrong button :/
[02:57] <tibbar> Tox: not sure what you want ... try "xkill"
[02:57] <MilhousePunkRock> Tox: Ctrl-Alt-Esc brings up a little skull which kills the window you click on with it
[02:58] <tibbar> Yeah thats xkill
[02:58] <Jucato> :)
[02:58] <acemo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1156/ heres my repository
[02:58] <Tox> i found it tool on panel menu in ubuntu and placed in
[02:58] <StingRay> anybody using tightvnc?
[02:59] <tibbar> StingRay: about 3 years ago
[02:59] <StingRay> tibbar, do you change keyboard layouts?
[02:59] <StingRay> tibbar, I cannot change them over vnc.
[03:00] <tibbar> StingRay: no just want to use a mouse butten for numpad
[03:00] <tibbar> StingRay: o um
[03:00] <dane> :P
[03:00] <dane> i can't get on dal net
[03:00] <dane> oh here we go i think
[03:00] <tibbar> dane: your on the net..
[03:01] <dane> yea i know that
[03:01] <dane> i've always been here
[03:01] <Tox> it looks like as simple icon, when i push on it cross cursor appears and dialog any ideas in kubuntu where i can find it ?
[03:01] <tibbar> StingRay: can't you use your keyboard?
[03:01] <StingRay> I cannot undestand why vnc will not start all extensions...
[03:01] <dane> hehe
[03:01] <dane> this rocks
[03:01] <dane> you guys are living
[03:01] <StingRay> tibbar, I an not on :0
[03:01] <tibbar> StingRay: so your runing to xservers?
[03:01] <StingRay> tibbar, I use startkde & and upon this 20 extensions are missing icluding XKEYBOARD
[03:02] <dane> lol!
[03:02] <dane> remote :D
[03:02] <StingRay> the only way to switch is via xmodmap....but it is ugly and I have to do a lot of manual editing
[03:03] <StingRay> setxkbmap returns an error...
[03:03] <HexJam> Guys this is more of a KDE question than Kubuntu but... When I use Konquror in Web Browser profile and I hit the Home button I'd expect/want it to take me to my Web Home page but when I'm in File Manger profile I'd expect it to take me to my ~/ dir.  Is there a way to set this behaviour?
[03:03] <Jucato> HexJam: currently, no
[03:04] <HexJam> Drat
[03:04] <tibbar> StingRay: why are you not on :0
[03:04] <HexJam> Maybe I should send a feature request
[03:04] <HexJam> :)
[03:04] <Jucato> you could, not sure it could be implemented anytime soon before KDE 4
[03:04] <HexJam> I mean it seems logical to me that that's the way it should behave
[03:04] <StingRay> this is not a shared session, tibbar, it a terminal session on :1, :2 and etc
[03:06] <tibbar> StingRay: when i ran dapper i had porblems with keyboard layouts but i just set mine to us...
[03:07] <StingRay> I cannot do without switching, tibbar
[03:08] <matthew> hey guys
[03:08] <sampo-> How I can stop ckfs checking filesystem at boot? tune2fs -c 0 -i 0 /dev/md0 does not help
[03:08] <tibbar> StingRay: i know i'm kinda noob but i don't realy know what your doing what do you switch ? console sessions?
[03:08] <adil> ikkkkk
[03:09] <StingRay> tibbar, I am speaking only about the keyboard layouts, us<->bg in my case
[03:09] <tibbar> StingRay: so y don't you just set us to bg?
[03:09] <StingRay> when logged to :0 the user is just fine becuase all extensions are lodaded properly, but if I start the session remotely with xstartup script only serveral extensions are loaded, tibbar
[03:09] <tibbar> StingRay: does it tell you that missing icluding after you set it?
[03:10] <tibbar> StingRay: ok so your pc/session is working fine
[03:10] <StingRay> tibbar, kde uses imho setxkbmap to change layouts...it is missing in a terminal session
[03:10] <StingRay> yup, tibbar
[03:12] <tibbar> StingRay: and when you login via other pc (in your case via a console) the the layouts doesn't load
[03:12] <DaSkreech> hi nikkiana
[03:12] <StingRay> the other way is by editing the xorg.conf but it again uses setxkbmap...I will have to rewrite the xmodmap.bg, because it does not correspond correctly at all
[03:12] <StingRay> tibbar, I don't log via console, but using the tightvncviewer.
[03:13] <StingRay> tibbar, I use direct GUI login, no consoles
[03:14] <tibbar> StingRay: ok so do you know whats resposable for the problem eg. tightvnc or kubuntu and do you use kubuntu on both pcs?
[03:15] <tyl3r> I guys
[03:15] <tyl3r> I have a problem with nvidia drivers
[03:15] <tyl3r> they were working good till 2 days ago
[03:15] <StingRay> tibbar, I an a newbie and still cannot figure out who is starting the extensions...tightvnc, the starkde command or something else.
[03:15] <AndyBe> tyl3r: whiche card...
[03:15] <lupine_85> yep
[03:15] <lupine_85> 10 minutes
[03:16] <tyl3r> but without a reason they stopped working - CARD: Nvidia FX5500
[03:16] <adil> u should install ALSA
[03:16] <StingRay> tibbar, they are part of the X, but this is all I know :)
[03:16] <lupine_85> tyl3r: they'll be working again in 10 minutes
[03:16] <tyl3r> I tried to reisntall them but I get a libnvidia-tls error
[03:16] <lupine_85> I assume you're another one who didn't read the manual :p
[03:17] <tyl3r> I didn't read the manual?
[03:17] <tibbar> StingRay: i know start kde command well i think so
[03:17] <AndyBe> you can install new drivers., wich ubutu you working on?
[03:17] <tyl3r> kubuntu 6.10
[03:17] <AndyBe> so try to get newer driver.
[03:17] <tyl3r> the version of the drivers is the last one and worked for a month
[03:18] <tibbar> StingRay: "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm start" or "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart"
[03:18] <lupine_85> tyl3r: and you installed them using...
[03:18] <mhb> Hi all, does anyone have experience with an opensource implementation of speech recognition?
[03:18] <tyl3r> it says libnvidia-tls.so expected in /usr/lib/tls, found in /usr/lib
[03:18] <lupine_85> mhb: there isn't one really.
[03:19] <tyl3r> using the .run installer as I always do
[03:19] <lupine_85> there's a java toolkit though
[03:19] <lupine_85> ah, the .run
[03:19] <AndyBe> I never got a problem with my old M440, nice.
[03:19] <tyl3r> but I also tried .deb packages
[03:19] <tyl3r> I always get the same error
[03:19] <mhb> lupine_85: which one?
[03:19] <lupine_85> well, there was a kernel update a couple of days ago so you need to recompile. Aside from that, your problem looks like general brokenness. uninstall everything and go from the .debs in about 10-20 minutes
[03:20] <tyl3r> I tried to bypass the libnvidia error with --force-tls=classic and it works, but then Xserver won't start
[03:20] <lupine_85> mhb: I don't remember the name, sorry
[03:20] <StingRay> tibbar, I will have to start session with kde start instead of startkde
[03:20] <tyl3r> alberto milone .deb
[03:20] <lupine_85> ah. I dunno if he's updating his
[03:20] <tyl3r> he is
[03:20] <lupine_85> http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk
[03:20] <lupine_85> ok
[03:20] <tyl3r> but the problem is the same
[03:20] <tyl3r> always libnvidiatls
[03:20] <lupine_85> did you uninstall the .run with the --uninstall flag?
[03:21] <tyl3r> yeah that too
[03:21] <tyl3r> I'm not a noob this is why I tried all that I could in these 2 days
[03:21] <lupine_85> dunno then. if it were my system I'd get with the sudo rm, but that'd be me randomly hacking stuff to see if it works
[03:21] <tyl3r> also reinstalled xorg
[03:21] <lupine_85> hence not recommended
[03:22] <StingRay> tibbar, I did a restart on the kdm, but this did not affect my current session in any matter.
[03:22] <tyl3r> if I install the drivers with --force-tls=classic, the installation goes, but...
[03:22] <lupine_85> ok, here libnvidia-tls.so is a part of nvidia-glx
[03:22] <tyl3r> the X won't start
[03:23] <lupine_85> and it installs it to both places
[03:23] <tyl3r> I know but why it says there is an error?
[03:23] <StingRay> I cannot use kdm in my xstartup script for tightvnc, becuase I get only a grey screen. kdm should be started by root only.
[03:23] <lupine_85> I have no idea. I try not to use the .run files if I can help it
[03:23] <AndyBe> I use Version: 1.0-9631, because it is so old, got no problem - only with composite.
[03:24] <tyl3r> with the --force-tls option X says fatal IO error 104
[03:24] <AndyBe> I' dont rembember there whas an screept around...
[03:24] <tibbar> StingRay: have you tried any other app besides tight vnc?
[03:25] <tyl3r> I don't figure out how they stopped working without a reason
[03:25] <StingRay> x11vnc, realvnc, Remote Administrator 2.2 with wine, XrealVNC, tightvnc, FreeNX, tibbar
[03:25] <AndyBe> special configuration tyl3r ?
[03:25] <StingRay> tibbar, FreeNX is unmatched, but this session resuming is a nightmare
[03:25] <tyl3r> what?
[03:26] <tyl3r> like for aiglx you mean?
[03:26] <tibbar> StingRay: does all or most of them give you the same problem?
[03:26] <AndyBe> yes.
[03:26] <StingRay> all vnc's the same, tibbar
[03:27] <StingRay> However FreeNX, is starting kdm somehow thus loading everything correctly, tibbar
[03:27] <tyl3r> yeah I had xorg configured for that before, but after new installations of the driver it subscribed those options and xorg.conf is fresh now
[03:27] <tibbar> StingRay: but resuming sessions is bad,,, :(
[03:28] <StingRay> tibbar, I found something very valuable for freeNX thus allowing me to resume almost all sessions, but still I cannot rely on it 99%
[03:29] <StingRay> tibbar, you BG?
[03:30] <dhq> is there any channel where i can look for a job please i need help i know this is not the channel to ask but i am desparate
[03:30] <ScarFreewill> StingRay: are you registered on irc?
[03:30] <StingRay> nope :( ScarFreewill
[03:30] <ScarFreewill> um,,,
[03:31] <ScarFreewill> StingRay: go to #meme
[03:36] <mario_> how can I talk with the italian kubuntu chat?
[03:36] <Tm_T> !it
[03:36] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:37] <Tm_T> mario_: /j #kubuntu-it
[03:37] <ScarFreewill> !afr
[03:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about afr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:37] <mario_> ciao a tutti....che mi puo dare una manino per mettere su i driver mesa?
[03:38] <mario_> c' qualcuno?
[03:38] <Tm_T> mario_: Hm, you should join to italian channel. ;)
[03:39] <matthew> hi
[03:39] <matthew> when i scroll in konqueror on digg page, my screen is jaggy >,< but works fine on FF
[03:40] <matthew> how do i fix the konqueror  to smoother scrolling?
[03:40] <gdiebel> matthew: known issue with digg
[03:41] <matthew> ok thanks. i guess i'll be using it with FF for the time
[03:47] <aspedia> I have one machine from that kontact there shall be a migration to thunderbird on microsoft
[03:47] <aspedia> someone can tell me how I can do a migration from kamil to MS with thunderbird
[03:47] <aspedia> ?
[03:51] <esaym> haha lame questions coming up
[03:52] <ScarFreewill> is there no gamers that use a mouse button to help them?
[03:52] <esaym> when i am in a console log in and i type a comand that displays alot of text, how to i scroll the text to be able to read it all?
[03:52] <esaym> andone know what im talking about?
[03:53] <Jucato> in Konsole? mouse wheel or scroll bar
[03:53] <Jucato> or Shift+PgUp/Dn
[03:53] <esaym> ok let me see
[03:53] <MilhousePunkRock> esaym: Or you run that command followed by | more
[03:53] <tibbar> gnomefreak: elo
[03:53] <Jucato> or | less
[03:54] <MilhousePunkRock> esaym: Then you will always have to move one page further with the spacebar
[03:54] <esaym> okm shift +pgup works
[03:54] <esaym> thank you
[03:54] <Jucato> less does more, as weird as that sounds
[03:54] <tibbar> gnomefreak: do you know how to reassign mouse buttons
[03:56] <Bluedog> I have 2gb ram, is 3gb swap enough?
[03:56] <Bluedog> Or is 4 better.
[03:56] <Jucato> :O
[03:56] <Jucato> how much RAM do you have?
[03:57] <Bluedog> 2 :D
[03:57] <Jucato> hah!
[03:57] <Bluedog> ho ho
[03:57] <Bluedog> lol
[03:57] <Jucato> you'll barely see your swap used, then. but 1GB is a safe bet
[03:57] <Jucato> 512MB if you're confident
[03:58] <Bluedog> thx
[04:01] <Hawkwind> Bluedog: If you have 2GB of RAM, you won't need more than 512MB for swap
[04:01] <Hawkwind> I never have more than 512MB on any machine I run, and all machines have 1GB of RAM or more
[04:01] <Bluedog> is it best to have a home partition, a ubuntu partition, then 1 for swap?
[04:02] <Hawkwind> Bluedog: You should have atleast / and /home and /swap
[04:02] <Bluedog> cool
[04:02] <Hawkwind> Bluedog: At the very least that is
[04:02] <Bluedog> im dual booting
[04:02] <Bluedog> so ive a couple more
[04:02] <Hawkwind> Bluedog: I have 15 partitions, for just one OS.  But I have over 750GB of space
[04:02] <Bluedog> hah :D
[04:02] <Hawkwind> I also use a /boot partition, just habit from old days.  It's not necessary by no means, just something I've always stuck with
[04:03] <lupine_85> Hawkwind: I've started using LVM recently
[04:03] <lupine_85> it's ++++++++++=
[04:03] <Jucato> !lvm
[04:03] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[04:03] <matthew> what is the purpose of a swap partition? i've set mine to 2gb but no idea what for -.-
[04:04] <Jucato> matthew: it's used by your system for extra space when you run out of physical RAM
[04:04] <Hawkwind> matthew: When the system is doing stuff and is using all of the physical RAM, swap will then be used
[04:04] <Jucato> lupine_85: is LVM a SATA/RAID only thing?
[04:04] <lupine_85> if you don't have it and run out of physical RAM, linux kills processes (at random?)
[04:04] <lupine_85> Jucato: no
[04:04] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Absolutely not
[04:04] <paolo_> hi: how can i kill a process with an unknown pid but with a known name? thnks
[04:05] <Hawkwind> Jucato: I hear nothing but good things about LVM, I've just never used it pesonally
[04:05] <lupine_85> I'm using it to join a SATA & IDE hard disc into a 370GB volume group
[04:05] <Hawkwind> paulw_vm: ps aux | grep name
[04:05] <Jucato> oh ok. I go read :)
[04:05] <lupine_85> online resizing of partitions... just wowo
[04:05] <Jucato> paolo_: Ctrl+Esc ?
[04:05] <Hawkwind> paulw_vm: Replace 'name' with the name of the app, and that will give you a PID#
[04:05] <Hawkwind> paolo_: That was for you, sorry
[04:06] <Hawkwind> paolo_: Or you can do something like killall amarok or whatever, but that may not necessarily work
[04:06] <lupine_85> almost as good as not having to worry about where on the 'disc' the partitions are located
[04:06] <Jucato> ah...
[04:07] <Jucato> then with libpata, no more worrying about where the disk is (hda or hdb, etct)
[04:07] <paolo_> Hawkwind: do you mean "kill -SIGKILL myapp" instead of "kill -SIGKILL pid" ?
[04:08] <lupine_85> mm, basically you join multiple discs into a volume group (though you can just use one if you like)
[04:08] <lupine_85> then you carve that volume group however you like
[04:08] <Hawkwind> paolo_: You don't necessarily need the -SIGKILL part
[04:08] <Hawkwind> paolo_: I just use killall myapp or ps aux | grep myapp, get the PID# and then kill it
[04:08] <paolo_> Hawkwind: thnks
[04:09] <paolo_> i didn't see "all"
[04:09] <lupine_85> partitions (logical volumes) are allocated in ~32MB blocks across the volume group, so you don't need to faff around getting a contiguous space for new/resizing partitions
[04:09] <lupine_85> that + resize2fs (so you can online resize the partitions) is amazing
[04:11] <PhillPhorrari> hello everybody, anyone there?
[04:11] <Tm_T> Nope, never.
[04:11] <Jucato> no one
[04:12] <Admiral_Chicago> ever
[04:12] <PhillPhorrari> lol :D how is nobody?
[04:12] <Admiral_Chicago> good, how is it going PhillPhorrari and Jucato !!!1
[04:13] <Jucato> heh :)
[04:13] <Jucato> cold :)
[04:13] <PhillPhorrari> well, its swell with me
[04:14] <PhillPhorrari> Jucato: where are you from then?
[04:14] <dope> would i have to setup a linux router in order to do what this page says http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pete/upside-down-ternet.html
[04:14] <Jucato> somewhere in asia
[04:15] <tyl3r> lupine still here?
[04:15] <tyl3r> I tried with your .deb driver too
[04:15] <PhillPhorrari> ah, here in europe its exeptionaly warm for this time of the year
[04:18] <kjdis> While compiling, "video.h:27:28: linux/compiler.h: No such file or directory", could that mean I don't have the kernel headers installed properly?
[04:19] <ForgeAus> wow automatix is interesting
[04:20] <matthew> !automatrix
[04:20] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:20] <Jucato> !automatix
[04:20] <constrictor> just installed a LAMP stack (edgy) and then got kubuntu-desktop but now i cannot login with kdm but i can log in from the console any ideas anyone
[04:20] <ForgeAus> oops breaksss some systems?
[04:20] <ForgeAus> !WorksForMe
[04:20] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[04:21] <Jucato> ForgeAus: it's notorious for making some of the upgrades from Dapper to Edgy almost impossible
[04:21] <ForgeAus> I think its evolved since a script..... but proly just a gui wrapper
[04:21] <ForgeAus> jucato I was impressed how easy to use it was...
[04:22] <dope> who do i figure out what version my WRT54G router is?
[04:22] <Admiral_Chicago> but there is the idea of you know what is happening vs. easy of use
[04:22] <ForgeAus> um dope doesn't it have a status page?
[04:22] <dope> yea
[04:22] <ForgeAus> doesn't say version on there?
[04:22] <dope> but it just says the name, no version number
[04:23] <dope> there's a firmware version
[04:23] <dope> that's it though
[04:23] <ForgeAus> ok I got a WRT as well just the software in it is custom
[04:23] <ForgeAus> not the original linksys ones
[04:23] <dope> i want to put openwrt on it but i don't know the version
[04:24] <ForgeAus> maybe ask on a linksys or router/networking forum?
[04:24] <tyl3r> guys I have a problem with nvidia drivers
[04:24] <ForgeAus> and/or channel
[04:24] <dope> crap
[04:24] <dope> i thought you guys might know
[04:24] <tyl3r> it says could not find nvidia.ko
[04:24] <tyl3r> and I can't use the drivers ;(
[04:25] <tyl3r> also failed to load module wfb
[04:26] <dope> shit it's version 5
[04:26] <Admiral_Chicago> !language
[04:26] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:26] <Admiral_Chicago> :)
[04:26] <dope> :-/
[04:26] <PhillPhorrari> dope: how did you tell?
[04:26] <dope> looked on the bottom of it
[04:26] <dope> says v6
[04:26] <dope> err
[04:26] <dope> v5
[04:27] <PhillPhorrari> what is so bad about v5?
[04:27] <binks> !ati
[04:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:27] <dope> http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Hardware/Linksys/WRT54G
[04:27] <dope> that says it
[04:28] <PhillPhorrari> ok thnx, i have the same router you see
[04:28] <binks> is there a way to get k menu to rescan as it has some apps in the list that are not installed
[04:29] <dope> yea like when i installed gvim it didn't show up in the list
[04:29] <ForgeAus> binks you could probably manually delete them from the menu editor
[04:29] <vge> binks: second click on in and choose "edit" then when the menu editor opens press "save"
[04:29] <ForgeAus> but rescan? not sure if there is an intial scan!... ist here?
[04:29] <vge> *on it
[04:30] <matthew> anyone know keyboard shortcut to minimize all windows?
[04:31] <ForgeAus> matthew not sure about keyboard shortcut but you can add a desktop aplept to the taskbar to do something similar
[04:31] <binks> vge thanks that did it :)
[04:31] <ForgeAus> grr applet
[04:31] <vge> binks: np
[04:31] <matthew> cool. so what keyword do i search for in Adept?
[04:32] <Amadeo> How do I install Wine in Kubuntu? It's not in Adept..
[04:32] <vge> binks: i think the menu entrys are located in /usr/share/applications/ if you someday fase a bad menuentry
[04:32] <ForgeAus> keyword?... no you just rightclick the panel down the bottom and add an item to the panel.. in the list there should be desktop
[04:32] <dope> hey linux people
[04:32] <balint> Hello, can someone tell me what is KDM?  i thought kubuntu got KDE?
[04:32] <dope> can i have my desktop machine be a router?
[04:33] <ForgeAus> actually I think its called Desktop Access
[04:33] <vge> balint: KDM is the login screen
[04:33] <binks> thanks must be somewhere in /home as thats all that was left from prev install and it picked up all old apps i installed
[04:33] <dope> anybody know?
[04:33] <waylandbill> balint: it's the display manager
[04:33] <vge> !KDM
[04:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about KDM - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:33] <ForgeAus> KDE requires KDM like Gnome requires GDM
[04:34] <ForgeAus> and I think WindowMaker uses WDM
[04:34] <balint> Oh thanx. cause i've downloaded a splash screen and the login wasnt like on the pictures... if i install KDM manager.. than that should resolve it?
[04:35] <kjdis> While compiling, "video.h:27:28: linux/compiler.h: No such file or directory", could that mean I don't have the kernel headers installed properly?
[04:35] <mario_> can someone help me to install the ati's drivers?
[04:36] <AndyBe> mario_:  its in the package fglrx
[04:36] <waylandbill> Anadeo: wine is in the universe repo
[04:36] <waylandbill> !universe
[04:36] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:36] <mario_> but i want ti install the proprietary
[04:36] <AndyBe> mario_:  you must change the graphic card in the xorg after that.
[04:36] <AndyBe> mario_:  that's it
[04:37] <Admiral_Chicago> i've got the strangest error. I can't put anything in my home dir because of permission denial errors. err Ktorrent is giving me this error
[04:37] <Amadeo> waylandbill: thank you :)
[04:37] <mario_> in this page "http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-firegl-prer200.html" there's a i've got the installer
[04:37] <AndyBe> Section "Device"
[04:37] <AndyBe>     Identifier     "Standardgrafikkarte"
[04:37] <AndyBe>     Driver         "nvidia"
[04:37] <AndyBe> EndSection
[04:37] <waylandbill> mario_: that's the one from ati, just in the repo, so you keep up to date without going back to ati all the time.
[04:38] <AndyBe> I change this nv into nvidia for me. like yours into fglrx, as I can remember.
[04:38] <waylandbill> 'aticonfig --initial' is usually the way to make that change.
[04:39] <mario_> i didn't understand
[04:39] <PhillPhorrari> well people it was nice talking to you im going to go now
[04:39] <PhillPhorrari> dope: good luck with the router
[04:39] <PhillPhorrari> bye
[04:40] <matthew> how do i add nickname to person im addressing?
[04:40] <mario_> when i put this comand: sh ./ati-driver-installer-8.26.18-x86.run i have this output:
[04:40] <mario_> ./ati-installer.sh: 163: Syntax error: Bad substitution
[04:40] <mario_> Removing temporary directory: fglrx-install
[04:40] <matthew> im using konvversation
[04:40] <AndyBe> mario_:  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[04:40] <Admiral_Chicago> matthew: start typing and hit tab
[04:40] <Admiral_Chicago> so i typed mat and hit tab.
[04:40] <matthew> Admiral_Chicago:  ty :)
[04:40] <Admiral_Chicago> matthew: thats how it works
[04:41] <waylandbill> mario_: is there a specific need to use the driver from ati's site?
[04:41] <Bluedog> can linux read/write ntfs stably nowadays?
[04:41] <AndyBe> waylandbill:  some informations are written on ati.
[04:42] <mario_> i think this is the best or no?
[04:42] <waylandbill> AndyBe: ?
[04:42] <AndyBe> mario_:  try to build the fglrx source frim kubuntu, then your shure you got all package there.
[04:42] <aonell> hi some one speak spanish ?
[04:43] <ForgeAus> bluedog I'd be suprised if oit couldn't read stably, as for writing? not sure, but theres a few packages like ntfstools or ntfs3g or something ...
[04:43] <AndyBe> mario_:  and then the ati installer, I think that works and you got all needed package.
[04:43] <Bluedog> ta :)
[04:43] <AndyBe> mario_:  not the fastes way but the best, you know about debian package ?
[04:43] <AndyBe> mario_:  and how to build ?
[04:43] <aonell> hi,,,,,,,,,,,,,, some one speak spanish ???????????????????
[04:44] <mario_> i didn't understant very well what i have to do
[04:44] <Jucato> !es | aonell
[04:44] <ubotu> aonell: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:44] <aonell> ok thank you
[04:45] <Bluedog> just about to install a harddisk version of ubuntu instead of livecd now...
[04:45] <AndyBe> mario_:  that's the way i made with nvidia to be shure i got all.
[04:45] <aspedia> someone can help me to migrate from kmail to MS and thunderbird?
[04:45] <AndyBe> no it's running well
[04:45] <Bluedog> how big should the ubuntu os partition be on average? i dont have the experience t know..
[04:46] <Bluedog> will have /home and /swap seperate
[04:46] <mario_> AndyBe:What do i have to do?open adept and install fglrx?
[04:46] <aspedia> I need the mails from kmail in MS thunderbird
[04:46] <ForgeAus> its not MS thunderbird
[04:46] <AndyBe> mario_:  one minute please...
[04:47] <mario_> AndyBe:ok
[04:47] <ForgeAus> if you need kmail mails you probably need ... to begin with... ext2ifs  to read your partition! ... after that I don't even know if there is a way to convert/import/etc whatever format kmail  uses...
[04:47] <waylandbill> mario_: xorg-driver-fglrx + fglrx-control
[04:48] <mario_> from adept?
[04:49] <waylandbill> sure. you can get them in adept (if restricted is enabled)
[04:49] <mario_> waylandbill:ok and then?
[04:50] <waylandbill> aticonfig --initial
[04:51] <AndyBe> mario_:  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential
[04:51] <mario_>  <AndyBe>:i'm downloading xorg-driver-fglrx + fglrx-control
[04:52] <waylandbill> mario_: this page tells https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI  ... if you do it from ati's site or from source, you need to redo the driver when the kernel is re-released.
[04:52] <spegelapan> If I install kubuntu and config it correctly, and install a game, lets say wc3 or world of warcraft, through wine, will there be a big performance loss?
[04:53] <trappist> spegelapan: depends on the game, but if it's well supported, no
[04:53] <AndyBe> waylandbill: that's a good instruction
[04:54] <spegelapan> and wow being the biggest mmo there is it should be pretty well supported right_
so i have to install xorg-driver-fglrx + fglrx-control then read the page and then use the driver from the site?
[04:54] <waylandbill> mario_: no. the page (scroll down) tells the instructions for doing what you are doing now
[04:54] <AndyBe> you don't need bothe.
[04:55] <mario_> ok
[04:55] <AndyBe> mario_: look at this headline "Install from Ubuntu repositories (easier)"
[04:55] <waylandbill> ati's site is usually newer, but I don't recommend unless you have a reason for that. you don't want to repeat everytime the kernel updates (I dont' think)
[04:57] <mario_> andyBe:where?
[04:57] <waylandbill> mario_: that same page. It's the section heading about 2/3rd down the page.
[04:58] <mario_> ok
[04:59] <balint> Hello again. Can you tell me how can i use the bootsplash screens on kubuntu?
[04:59] <kjdis> Ok, lemme try it this way, I think I need to install linux-libc-dev, for the kernel headers, but I have compiled a newer kernel and running it, so if I use apt to install linux-libc-dev will it work fine considerinf I changed my kernel?
[05:00] <spegelapan> one quick question, I am running from the live CD atm, and downloaded the 6.10 iso but when i saw the CD in windows the title said 6.06 is there anyway to check which version this really is?
[05:01] <mario_> what is gedit in kubuntu?
[05:02] <AndyBe> kwrite
[05:02] <mario_> ok
[05:02] <waylandbill> I found the other day that the download link from kubuntu.org brought me to 6.06, but I noticed and browsed the mirror for 6.10
[05:03] <spegelapan> waylandbill: yeah but the file was named 6.10
[05:03] <mario_> is that abled or disbled?? DISABLED_MODULES=""
[05:04] <waylandbill> spegelapan: ok cause mine wasn't. :-D
 :DISABLED_MODULES=""
[05:04] <mario_> is thath abled or disabled?
[05:05] <ForgeAus> is there a difference between kate and kwrite?
[05:05] <spegelapan> :) so, is there anyway to check to really know what version this is? maybe they missed to change the title of the windows or something
[05:06] <waylandbill> ForgeAus: they use the same embedded editor. Kate has added stuff like a file browser
[05:06] <Jucato> spegelapan: lsb_release -a
[05:06] <binks> sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list spegelpan
[05:06] <AndyBe> mario_:  only do this "Change the driver for the device to 'ati' instead of fglrx to use the standard Xorg supplied driver." and startx  from the console
[05:06] <binks> and tell me what repos are listed#
[05:06] <balint> Nobody uses bottsplash screens on kubuntu? :(
[05:06] <spegelapan> err where can i find the terminal in this
[05:07] <mario_>  <AndyBe>:so i have to write :DISABLED_MODULES="ati "??
[05:07] <binks> kmenu system
[05:07] <AndyBe> strg+ F1, go into main user, sudo -s, your password,
[05:07] <binks> !ati
[05:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:07] <AndyBe> this disable automatic th ATI modules.
[05:08] <mario_> it says "Make sure fglrx is not disabled: sudo gedit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common"
[05:08] <mario_> but i find it DISABLED_MODULES=" "
[05:08] <AndyBe> hm, normal they are not disabled.
[05:08] <mario_> ok...i don't do nothing
[05:08] <AndyBe> ah you men to load the ati into the kernel.
[05:09] <waylandbill> mario_: correct
[05:09] <AndyBe> sorry mario_ I missunderstod
[05:09] <mario_> ok
[05:09] <spegelapan> binks:  just a lot of errors, running it through the live CD atm
[05:10] <AndyBe> mario_:  if the driver don't work for you after a reboot (resources of the graphiccard on ati)
[05:10] <binks> what part u at
[05:10] <mario_> what do i have to do if they don't work?
[05:10] <AndyBe> use then "pico" from the console to change what ever you want.
[05:11] <binks> mario where did u get to
[05:11] <AndyBe> "pico" is something to write.
[05:11] <binks> at the bottom of the /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common add the line
[05:12] <spegelapan> oh, thanks Jucato, seems to be 6.10 will install it now
[05:12] <spegelapan> missed your msg at first
[05:12] <balint> If anyone uses bootsplash pls. come to the #bootsplash room!
[05:12] <AndyBe> thanks binks.
[05:13] <binks> mario b4 you change owt in /etc/X11/xorg.conf       do this   sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.mario
[05:13] <binks> then you can reinstall from a term
[05:13] <Jucato> balint: ??
[05:13] <Bluedog> 70gb drive, how should I seperate it into ubuntu, /boot, /home ?
[05:14] <Bluedog> i mean ubuntu, /swap, /home
[05:14] <Bluedog> swap will be 512mb..
[05:14] <AndyBe> got to go away
[05:14] <balint> jucato: do you use bootsplash screens? cause i dont know how to change them.. :(
[05:14] <waylandbill> aticonfig backs up the xorg.conf
[05:14] <Jucato> balint: Ubuntu's bootsplash engine is USplash... (not easy to customize....)
[05:14] <fabien> j'ai un probele ! le tableau de bord ne s affiche plus !!!!!
[05:15] <Tm_T> !fr
[05:15] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:16] <memo_> Hi
[05:18] <balint> Jucato: not easy:( can you help me? and where does it store the files when booting? on the harddisk?
[05:18] <Jucato> !usplash | balint
[05:18] <ubotu> balint: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[05:19] <balint> ubotu: thx i check it out
[05:20] <balint> hehe i didnt know his a bot :D
[05:20] <aleksanteri> lol
[05:21] <aleksanteri> !botsnack
[05:21] <ubotu> Yum!
[05:21] <aleksanteri> :P
[05:21] <Bluedog> how much space is needed for ubuntu, how should i distribute it?
[05:21] <Bluedog> i have 70gb for /home, /, and /swap
[05:22] <binks> hw much ram you got
[05:22] <Bluedog> 2gb
[05:22] <binks> ok swap 4 gb  20 gb for / then the rest as /home
[05:22] <Bluedog> ok :) thanks
[05:23] <binks> thats just my opinion
[05:23] <HymnToLife> 4 GB swap ???
[05:23] <binks> 2x real ram
[05:23] <HymnToLife> I know hard drives are ridiculously cheap nowadays but...
[05:23] <Bluedog> surely that wont be all used though
[05:23] <Bluedog> so maybe 1gb swap is better
[05:23] <Bluedog> 2xram is fine if u have a small amount of ram
[05:23] <Jucato> er... yeah
[05:23] <HymnToLife> 1 have 512 MB
[05:23] <binks> tis the beauti of nix its your choice
[05:23] <HymnToLife> it's never ever used
[05:24] <Bluedog> / and /home i wasnt so sure how to distrubite it
[05:24] <Bluedog> if 20gb is good for /, ill give the rest to /home
[05:24] <HymnToLife> for / 10 GB is already far more than enough
[05:24] <binks> i have 3x 250 gb hdd,s so i dont care sorry flippant i no but true
[05:24] <Bluedog> really :S
[05:24] <cloakable> I use 16GB for /, and I hardly touch it.
[05:25] <HymnToLife> I have 2,5 GB used on mine
[05:25] <Bluedog> ok :) cheers guys
[05:25] <Bluedog> I'm in windows atm, going to do it all in partition magic
[05:25] <Bluedog> hope thats ok
[05:25] <HymnToLife> Bluedog, I personnaly wouldn't recommend it
[05:25] <cloakable> I have 2GB :)
[05:25] <Bluedog> you'd use a bootcd for it?
[05:25] <HymnToLife> I know people who had plroblems with PM
[05:25] <HymnToLife> yep
[05:25] <HymnToLife> the GParted live CD works like a charm
[05:26] <HymnToLife> you can do it with Ubuntu's too
[05:26] <Bluedog> ok, thanks
[05:26] <Bluedog> ok for dual booting?
[05:26] <binks> id use live cd
[05:26] <HymnToLife> but I don't like the idea of fiddling with a partition while it is being used
[05:26] <binks> nothing in windows is safe
[05:26] <HymnToLife> you can remove the "in Windows"
[05:26] <binks> load up like cd and manual edit partitions
[05:26] <HymnToLife> _nothing_ in the Universe is 100% safe
[05:27] <binks> lolol
[05:27] <lupine_85> course it is
[05:27] <HymnToLife> lupine_85, for example ?
[05:27] <lupine_85> !teatime
[05:27] <matthew> Bluedog: youc an use livecd to do your partitioning and dual boot,
[05:27] <ubotu> teatime: Gnome Panel applet to reminds you when your tea is ready. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4-2.1 (edgy), package size 396 kB, installed size 624 kB
[05:27] <lupine_85> do you want other examples?
[05:27] <Bluedog> matthew - thx :)
[05:28] <binks> Bluedog please make sure you back up any data you like on the hdd first
[05:28] <Bluedog> course :D
[05:28] <binks> hey mario did you get ati working
[05:29] <mario_> how can i knoe it?
[05:29] <mario_> the computer restar with any problem
[05:29] <waylandbill> glxinfo should say that "direct rendering: yes"
[05:30] <binks> fglrxinfo should say ati card
[05:31] <mario_> it says
[05:32] <mario_> ario@Kubuntu-Edgy:~$ fglrxinfo
[05:32] <mario_> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[05:32] <mario_> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[05:32] <mario_> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[05:32] <mario_> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1)
[05:32] <binks> no then
[05:32] <binks> you on edgy or dapper
[05:32] <binks> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[05:33] <mario_> edgy
[05:33] <binks> sorry officials but i find thismethod better
[05:33] <binks> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[05:36] <placo> hi! i'm trying to repartition, using qtparted, but have the problem that the particular partition is mounted. How can I unmount this?
[05:37] <lupine_85> sudo umount /mountpoint
[05:37] <waylandbill> placo, umount (unless it's the partition you are running from)
[05:37] <lupine_85> make sure nothing is using/in the partition
[05:37] <mario_> binks i have to restart
[05:37] <lupine_85> if it's /, there's a qtparted live CD
[05:38] <binks> ok
[05:38] <Chousuke> I wonder if anyone knows where to unmount disks using the GUI :P
[05:38] <lupine_85> why bother?
[05:38] <lupine_85> slow GUI is sloooooooooooooooow :D
[05:38] <Chousuke> yeah, but it's funny.
[05:39] <Chousuke> Linux is always touted to be unfriendly because everything must be done from the CLI
[05:39] <Chousuke> which is not true.
[05:39] <lupine_85> but yeah, navigate to system:/
[05:39] <lupine_85> right-click on anything and hit unmount
[05:39] <lupine_85> IIRC
[05:39] <freemason> hey everybody can anybody help me with Ekiga under Ubuntu? I have an account but it still can't send messages or make phone call.
[05:39] <Chousuke> there's just the problem that when newbies come to ask for help, they're given command line commands :P
[05:39] <lupine_85> they're easier to explain over IRC
[05:40] <lupine_85> far, far easier
[05:40] <Chousuke> yeah, they are
[05:40] <Chousuke> but somebody might think there's no "easy" way to do it through the GUI :/
[05:40] <Jucato> (be considerate to the one who needs help, not to yourself giving help)
[05:41] <lupine_85> lol
[05:41] <lupine_85> didn't realise it was joke time :)
[05:41] <lupine_85> most of the wiki has alternate GUI/CLI options
[05:43] <nihil_sum> Every time I reboot, the time is off by -6 hours until I resync with the time server.  I'm at GMT-6 (CST) timezone.  How can I fix this?
[05:45] <mario__> it doesn't work
[05:45] <placo> thx lupine, got it
[05:47] <waylandbill> mario_: you can examine the /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see if there was an error
[05:52] <rich654> !hidden
[05:52] <ubotu> Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[05:53] <matthew> i think i need help updating my video card driver. it couldnt even run 3d screen saver right. very very poor framerate. and i have a pci-e 128mb card
[05:53] <matthew> ati-radeon^
[05:56] <kjdis> How do I utilize my kernel headers after compiling a new kernel?
[05:56] <kjdis> If a program wants to use them, how do I get it to use the new ones and not the old ones in /usr/include
[06:05] <balint> Hi. Anyone knows from where i can start the KDE Control Center?
[06:06] <placo> hi! i try to repartition, using gtparted, but cannot unmount the ntfs format. How come?
[06:06] <fdoving> balint: kmenu -> run command 'kcontrol' run.
[06:06] <mario__> is that working?
[06:06] <balint> fdoving: ok, and how can i make a shortcut?
[06:06] <Jucato> balint: right-click on the K Menu -> Menu Editor
[06:07] <balint> thx
[06:09] <placo> why can i in linux unmount an extended partition, but not the ntfs where i keep xp?
[06:10] <placo> sorry, it is unmounted, but i cant repartition it
[06:10] <balint> Jucato: i mean, how can i make a desktop shortcut to the contorl center?
[06:11] <Jucato> balint: right-click on the Desktop -> Create New -> Link to Application
[06:11] <balint> Jucato: oh thx
[06:13] <spirit_> i am exiting
[06:13] <spirit_> 
[06:25] <bene> hi
[06:25] <bene> en or de?
[06:25] <Tm_T> bene: Qu?
[06:25] <Jucato> Tm_T: what?
[06:25] <Jucato> bene: -en
[06:25] <bene> k
[06:25] <Jucato> (English channel)
[06:25] <Tm_T> Jucato: Niin mit?
[06:25] <Jucato> !de
[06:25] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:25] <Jucato> Tm_T: nan desu ka?
[06:25] <Tm_T> Jucato: Ja det r det.
[06:25] <bene> i have a problem when i try to install the libxine-extracodecs
[06:25] <bene> apt-get cann't find them
[06:25] <Jucato> bene: you need to enable multiverse
[06:25] <Jucato> !multiverse | bene
[06:25] <ubotu> bene: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:25] <Tm_T> Jucato: Sorry, I was tempted to also say something as cymraegg but I have forgotten most of it.
[06:26] <Tm_T> Me neither.
[06:26] <bene> on the adept button are no other options than quit
[06:26] <Tm_T> Only 3 languages studied in school etc.
[06:27] <Jucato> bene: Adept Manager? go to View menu -> Manage Repositories
[06:30] <kashual> hi
[06:30] <kashual> need info or help pls
[06:30] <Tm_T> !helpme
[06:30] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:31] <bene> hm okay thanks
[06:31] <bene> i'm a little bit blind ... and sorry for my english :)
[06:31] <Tm_T> kashual: just to make sure you understand: I, or no one can help you if you don't tell what exactly is your problem.
[06:32] <Tm_T> Telepathy isn't our strongest skill.
[06:32] <kashual> lol
[06:34] <kashual> ive got installed ircd
[06:34] <balint> How can i set thnigs to autostart? i want to set the Yakuake to autostart when linux starts...
[06:34] <Tm_T> Jucato: It's only your ir connection.
[06:34] <kashual> but missing nickserv and chanserv
[06:34] <Jucato> balint: leave it running when you logout. if you have KDE set to restore from previous sessions, it will be started when you login
[06:34] <balint> Jucato this works when i turn off my Pc too?
[06:34] <kashual> what must i do 4 activate this services
[06:34] <Jucato> balint: yes. (logout = logout *and* shutdown) :)
[06:34] <balint> ok
[06:35] <balint> well thats not working :) it stores lots of things but not yakuake :(
[06:35] <balint> so if opera is opened, taht is stored..
[06:35] <balint> but yakuake its not
[06:35] <Jucato> balint: you're sure? opera starts up automatically when you log in?
[06:36] <balint> Jucato: only if i dont turm it off before i shut down
[06:36] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[06:36] <Jucato> balint: same is true with yakuake. don't close it before you shutdown/logout
[06:36] <Jucato> (don't forget to press F12 to activate yakuake, too)
[06:37] <balint> Jucato: ok ill try it
[06:41] <tn-> 'lo
[06:44] <tn-> I've got a problem with sound output with a recent intel hda on an hp machine
[06:52] <acemo> my wine repository's give an error when i run "sudo apt-get update"
[07:02] <ciga> hi
[07:04] <ciga> how do I have libnspr4-dev firefox packages installed at the same time on edgy?
[07:10] <balint> Someone uses Kopete here?? i have a problem with the skins...
[07:12] <Jucato> balint: #kopete would be a good place to ask, in case no one knows here
[07:12] <balint> Jucato: ok
[07:14] <CSonicGo> the wine repository is down again
[07:26] <Ridayah> Hey all. I've got a problem -- most USB devices work just fine, plug'n'play.  However, my camera (HP Photosmart M425) will not be used. It's detected, but in both digikam and konqueror, it gives a message about being unable to access.  However, if I run digikam as root, it reads just fine.
[07:27] <Ridayah> This appears to be a permissions error but I have no idea what or where.  Anyone have ideas?
[07:29] <Ridayah> it worked fine in dapper, but stopped on upgrade to edgy.
[07:30] <aztunn> hi
[07:31] <aztunn> beryl works with the last update package of nvidia driver for edgy or I still need to use the beta version?
[07:31] <BluesKaj> Ridayah, is your camers seen as a drive in sys/settings/advanced/disk&filesystems  ?
[07:33] <bene> i have installed the libxine-extracodecs package but amarok dont play mp3s ... anything else i have to do?
[07:34] <TheGateKeeper> bene, only thing I can suggest is to make sure amarok is using the xine engine
[07:35] <lupine_85> you'd want to make sure kdemultimedia is also installed
[07:35] <lupine_85> dunno why, but not having that broke mp3 support here
[07:35] <bene> TheGateKeeper: and how can i do that?
[07:36] <TheGateKeeper> bene, well start amarok up, then go to configure settings --> engines
[07:37] <bene> TheGateKeeper jep xine Engine is chosen
[07:38] <TheGateKeeper> well that is all I had to do on dapper
[07:39] <bene> hm strange the normal sounds are working and it also plays a sound when i click ok
[07:40] <Tox> is it possible to make mp3 preview on mouse hover in konqueror?
[07:41] <dwidmann> konqueror -> configure konqueror ->previews and meta data, see what there is in there for previewing
[07:42] <bene> hm okay if i copy the music file to my home directory i can play it
[07:42] <Tox> theres no any options for audio preview, for media only.i marked it but it doesn't works
[07:43] <Bluedog> hey guys
[07:43] <dwidmann> hmm, tox, I think I *may* have done it before, I'll take a look around, though I think that might have been the sensible place to put that option ...
[07:43] <Bluedog> can anyone recommend a nice gui irc client for kubuntu?
[07:43] <Bluedog> using bitchx atm :)
[07:44] <bene> why can i copy a file from a device but cant play it directly?
[07:45] <TheGateKeeper> Bluedog, well it comes with one already installed konversation, there is also xchat that you could install
[07:45] <Bluedog> oh really, thanks :)
[07:45] <dwidmann> Bluedog, konversation does the job
[07:45] <TheGateKeeper> bene, add it to your playlist, then play it, that should work
[07:45] <Bluedog> Also noticed synaptic isnt in the `startbar` (dont know the linux term for it).. how do you add stuff here?
[07:46] <dwidmann> Tox: I found it! I found it!
[07:46] <Tox> yes ?
[07:46] <Bluedog> in fact, hardly anything is, so I don't know what apps I have :D
[07:46] <dwidmann> Konqueror -> view -> preview -> click sound files
[07:46] <bene> TheGateKeeper okay thanks
[07:47] <Bluedog> forgot to mention, I'm in gnome atm
[07:47] <Tox> trying :)
[07:47] <Bluedog> so I assume konversation isnt on here righ tnow
[07:48] <Tox> and it still dznt work maybe i have to kill konq ?
[07:48] <dwidmann> Bluedog, try and run it, if it's in the same partition it should run just fine
[07:48] <dwidmann> Tox: well, I tested it and it worked for me, though, I have everything in ogg vorbis format
[07:48] <Bluedog> no KDE as this is a new install :P
[07:48] <Bluedog> been chatting here for a couple of days so I thought I'd come back here to chat instead of ubuntu chan, my fault rlly :P
[07:48] <TheGateKeeper> Bluedog, in this channel most of us will assume you are using kubuntu which uses the kde desktop, so what distro & dsektop are you actually using
[07:49] <Tox> :) sure ... i forgot i launch my speakers off lol
[07:49] <Bluedog> Vanilla ubuntu right now, sorry..
[07:49] <dwidmann> vanilla, I thought it looked more like chocolate
[07:49] <Bluedog> sure dont taste likeit
[07:49] <TheGateKeeper> Bluedog, well does it use xchat?
[07:49] <Tox> tnx dwidman you're great helper :)
[07:50] <DaSkreech> can I TELL amarok what CD I'm listening to?
[07:50] <Tox> it  hell works!
[07:50] <TheGateKeeper> Bluedog, look up internet
[07:50] <TheGateKeeper> look under* internet
[07:50] <Bluedog> found it, thanks :)
[07:50] <Bluedog> gnome xchat is the one, its not on here yet
[07:55] <bene> amarok rox :D
[07:56] <bene> i'm using kubuntu the first days now and it is realy cool
[07:56] <sebbar> hi guys, how do I set the away status on irc?
[07:57] <dwidmann> if you're using konversation, file -> set away globally, should work
[07:57] <sebbar> excellent, tnx
[07:57] <NeonLightning> so to get ark to access rar files do i need the files from rarlabs or can i use unrar-free from univers
[07:58] <dwidmann> unrar or unrar-free should work, though I don't think unrar-free can extract all rar files
[07:59] <NeonLightning> well i've just found that when i use unrarfree from universe ark says unrar isn't in my path
[07:59] <dwidmann> NeonLightning, there's a fix for that
[07:59] <dwidmann> sudo ln -s /usr/bin/unrar-free unrar
[08:00] <NeonLightning> ahh use symlinks
[08:00] <NeonLightning> ghaa i really gotta switch my dvd back to my primary drive since running this livecd from my 2x cdrom is wayy too slow
[08:01] <NeonLightning> i had to switch to try and play a dvd on here but i never did get that working
[08:01] <Tox> how can create private room in xchat ?
[08:01] <NeonLightning> just join a unused channel
[08:01] <NeonLightning> same as in mirc
[08:01] <Tox> i mean to send private msg
[08:01] <dwidmann> 2x cdrom drive? Man oh man, that must be downright ancient
[08:02] <Tox> i can't see and recieve it
[08:02] <dwidmann> /msg nickname
[08:03] <BTR> How come flash animations doesnt work in konqurer?
[08:03] <marco_> Finally I have my router :)
[08:05] <NeonLightning> dwidmann: i did that and its still saying unrar isn't in my path
[08:05] <DaSkreech> bene: Yes it does
[08:05] <dwidmann> hmm, that worked the last time I tried it NeonLightning
[08:06] <DaSkreech> can I TELL amarok what CD I'm listening to?
[08:07] <dwidmann> Neon, it seems that the linking failed, lets see what I did wrong
[08:07] <dwidmann> oh yay, I thought so
[08:08] <dwidmann> NeonLightning: sudo ln -s /usr/bin/unrar-free /usr/bin/unrar
[08:08] <dwidmann> and you can remove the link from your home directory >.>
[08:08] <NeonLightning> lol yea
[08:08] <NeonLightning> now i'm getting what you ment by it not opening all packages
[08:09] <marco_> maybe you need to activate multiverse in repositorys
[08:09] <dtg> anybody got an idea why it won't assign an ip with DHCP automatically, on a wired, on startup? I have to manually go to Network Settings and disable/activate eth0, and then it gets an ip. it worked before.
[08:09] <dwidmann> NeonLightning, It won't extract them from Rar 3.0 archives
[08:10] <marco_> backports?
[08:10] <DaSkreech> Better yet can I do the same in Konqueror?
[08:10] <NeonLightning> dwidmann: yea i'm trying to extract a recently created rar so probly 3.0
[08:11] <dtg> anybody?
[08:13] <Sanne> dtg: Do you still have the checkmark on "Activate when computer starts" in the dialog "Configure interface" when you right click on your card entry?
[08:13] <balint> Hi. How can i enable a specific TCP port in kubuntu?
[08:14] <dtg> Sanne, yes I do
[08:15] <balint> the specific port is 6891
[08:15] <Sanne> dtg: hmmm, no idea then. Usually this behaviour (disable, then enable) happens when the card get's configured, but the network isn't on at boot time (when I forget to turn on my router). But I assume that's not your problem.
[08:16] <dtg> Sanne, the card starts and seems to be connected to the router, just isn't assigning an IP automatically
[08:16] <Sanne> dtg: which you also specified in the configure dialog, yes?
[08:17] <dtg> yep
[08:17] <Sanne> thought so
[08:19] <Sanne> dtg: would it help you if I post my /etc/network/interfaces file?
[08:20] <dtg> go ahead
[08:20] <Sanne> dtg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1200/
[08:22] <binks> i have 3 locked files in my home folder that i dont what are and wont delete with the error file doesnt exist
[08:29] <zanza> #kubuntu-it
[08:30] <matthias> hi i want to set the refresh rates of my tft in xorg conf but i dont remember wich file contains this info
[08:31] <tsdgeos>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:31] <Sanne> dtg: you can try to check the syslog for dhclient to see what went on: 'cat /var/log/syslog | grep -i dhclient'. Here's my output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1204/
[08:32] <matthias> hmm but theres no entry for this...i will ask google
[08:33] <Sanne> matthias: you can see with the command: xvidtune
[08:33] <zanza> there isn't an italian IRC channel for help new users of kubuntu?
[08:33] <Sanne> !it
[08:33] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:34] <Sanne> zanza: you joint it with: /j #kubuntu-it
[08:34] <zanza> ok
[08:34] <zanza> tanx
[08:34] <Sanne> zanza: you're welcome :)
[08:42] <Barghest> how can I tell APT-GET to use my ppp0 interface instead of lo?
[08:54] <spegelapan> is there any equivallent for ubuntus synaptic?
[08:54] <gsrd> how do I find where my jre is?
[08:54] <gsrd> trying to run tomcat, having troubles
[08:56] <dtg> hey Sanne, you still here?
[08:56] <Sanne> dtg: yup
[08:56] <zanza> somebody can help me whit mi wireless desktop adapter?
[08:59] <vge> how do i list all listening sockets?
[09:01] <Sanne> vge: dunno exactly, but try netstat, or 'man netstat' for instructions.
[09:03] <paulinster> Hi All,  I am having an issue with SSH. I can't get the proper return value when sending remote command
[09:03] <paulinster> This look to be specific to kubuntu as under ubuntu I do not seem to have the same issue..
[09:06] <Tm_T> paulinster: Kubuntu is Ubuntu.
[09:06] <paulinster> tm_t: I know .... sorry I meant kde specific issue ...
[09:06] <Tm_T> paulinster: So, how you use ssh to make KDE addect to it?
[09:07] <spegelapan> How do I create an shortcut? want some wine things to trigger and so on
[09:07] <paulinster> tm_t: here's the command line I run ...  ssh servername 'exit 11'; echo $?
[09:07] <matthias> i want to use dri but i always get this msg: (EE) AIGLX: DRI module not loaded
[09:08] <matthias> do i have to load the module "dri" in /etc/modules?
[09:08] <matthias> or what must i do?
[09:08] <paulinster> tm_t: I am expecting to get the return value of the exit code but obviously it's the return value of ssh instead..
[09:12] <dtg> Sanne, you there?
[09:12] <dtg> I can show you my log, if you can help
[09:12] <Sanne> dtg: for a few minutes
[09:12] <Sanne> dtg: sure
[09:13] <Tm_T> paulinster: Well, there's logical error, you don't send that echo to server?
[09:13] <dtg> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1212/
[09:13] <constantine-xvi> does anyone know of a solid server distro with decent web admin tools?
[09:13] <Tm_T> paulinster: Atleast I understand that so that you should include that echo call inside '-signs.
[09:15] <paulinster> tm_t: I know and don't want to be send to the server... I just want to get the return value from ssh ... ssh should be returning the last command return value ... however for strange reason I coulnd't get the proper return value from ssh under kubuntu, but I do get it under ubuntu ...
[09:15] <Tm_T> D'oh, that shouldn't matter.
[09:15] <Tm_T> Oh well, no idea.
[09:16] <Sanne> dtg: this looks suspicious: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia (line 12)
[09:16] <paulinster> ssh servername 'exit 11'
[09:16] <paulinster> echo $?
[09:16] <Sanne> dtg: sorry!!!
[09:16] <Sanne> dtg: I meant: dhclient: send_packet: Network is unreachable
[09:17] <BTR> Hi, i just installed wine, how do i use it?
[09:18] <dtg> you need to right-click the program to run, and click open-with wine or something along there
[09:19] <spegelapan> Can i browse my windows partition and copy some files before i delete it? :/
[09:19] <BTR> Ty:)
[09:19] <dtg> copy files to Linux?
[09:19] <Sanne> dtg: sorry, gotta run now, good luck with your problem. You may wayt to try to search in ubuntuforums, maybe somebody else also had this problem.
[09:19] <dtg> or to Windows?
[09:20] <dtg> !ntfs
[09:20] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:20] <spegelapan> dtg to linux, from windows
[09:21] <spegelapan> thanks for the link
[09:21] <paulinster> So no one could help me to figure out why ssh isn't returning the proper return value code
[09:23] <BTR> dtg: So now i have installed a win32 program, how do i then execute it? i have no idea of where to look for it:(
[09:24] <Trickser> hi
[09:24] <Trickser> how can i deactivate pppoe on boot?
[09:26] <Ippatsu> BTR: open a console and type wine pathtoprogram
[09:26] <Ippatsu> or right click on the file to execute and choose "open with...", type "wine" and press enter
[09:28] <BTR> Ippatsu: But i cant remember the path or the name of the executable:( (when its installed)
[09:28] <dtg> lppatsu, I told him that already :)
[09:28] <BTR> isnt there any gui for  wine
[09:28] <dtg> I think there is
[09:28] <Bluedog> Hey guys, just enabled my side buttons on my mouse.. But how do I make pressing the centre button quickly scroll up / down?
[09:28] <dtg> for config
[09:29] <Bluedog> Holding it in XP lets you scroll up and down rapidly
[09:30] <Trickser> hey guys, anyone know how can one deactivate pppoe on boot?
[09:30] <Ippatsu> there are winecfg and winetools, but they are not used to start a program
[09:31] <BTR> Is there any way for me to explore the "c:/" wine created?
[09:32] <magnus_> newbie question: I have problem sharing folders between XP and Kubuntu any good info source how to do and normal mistakes ...
[09:32] <gekk1> BTR: i think it's somewhere under ~/.wine/
[09:32] <Ippatsu> ~/.wine/drive_c
[09:32] <BTR> thanks alot:)
[09:32] <spegelapan> dtg may i PM you about that ntfs, dont really understand it
[09:34] <Vilhelm1> hi
[09:34] <dtg> spegelapan, ok
[09:35] <spegelapan> need to register
[09:35] <zorglu_> !register
[09:35] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[09:35] <Vilhelm1> what's the application I can change the appearance of KDE applications in XFCE? I don't have Kubuntu installed but I use amarok and konqueror though because they rule ok
[09:44] <balint> Anyone got a clue on Genius webcam Driver for linux? on the site, driver is only for windows, and tha cam with general linux driver is very very dark :(:(
[09:45] <katabatic> maybe you can adjust brightness somewhere, then?
[09:53] <Vilhelm1> I know it isn't possible to change theme of Qt-based applications with the same application I change the appearance of GTK-based ones.. what's the application meant for the Qt-based ones?
[09:54] <aseigo> Vilhelm1: for qt only, there is qtconfig ... kde provides the contro center from which you can change themes
[09:56] <Rob-West> whats wrong with it
[09:56] <fxr> hi.. i notice ubuntu is heating up my processor more than windows & causing crashing, does anoyone know if there is any reasons for this?
[09:57] <DaSkreech> I can't send a message to random contacts
[09:57] <DaSkreech> That's so stupid
[09:57] <hassan2a> you are
[09:58] <matthias> i'm trying to configure xserver to use dri
[09:58] <matthias> are there any problems with dri and ubuntu edgy
[09:58] <matthias> ?
[10:03] <klerfayt> matthias: what graphics card?
[10:03] <Vilhelm1> aseigo: lots of thanks for the answer :)
[10:04] <aseigo> Vilhelm1: np
[10:04] <Vilhelm1> one more question - why do I get text like this when I open Qt-based application in terminal:
[10:04] <Vilhelm1> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 172 Major opcode:  147 Minor opcode:  3 Resource id:  0x0
[10:04] <Vilhelm1> Failed to open device
[10:05] <Vilhelm1> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 172 Major opcode:  147 Minor opcode:  3 Resource id:  0x0
[10:05] <Vilhelm1> Failed to open device
[10:05] <Vilhelm1> ups I'm sorry for that!
[10:05] <matthias> klerfayt: Ati X800
[10:06] <Vilhelm1> what does that BadDevice thing mean and what is meant with that uninitialized input device 172?
[10:07] <klerfayt> matthias: have you tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?
[10:08] <matthias> no mom
[10:08] <klerfayt> !ati
[10:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:08] <klerfayt> mom?
[10:11] <slop|top> i need some help : my installation has been working fine for months...today i got a new desk, so i disconnected everything and reconnected it...and now ubuntu won't boot - it hangs at the loading bar.  if i hit ctrl-alt-del, it takes me to a crazy blue screen that says that X couldn't start because of an internal problem, and i can eventually make my way to prompt (logged in as root) by hitting ctrl-alt-del ... at prompt, if i do sudo apt-get install --rei
[10:11] <zanza> there is someone that help me?I can't configure my wireless desktop adapter...
[10:13] <matthias> klerfayt: i have 2 video cards one pci and one agp but dpkg detects only the pci
[10:16] <matthias> klerfayt: i made the settings manually i'll try to use dri now
[10:19] <rohan> what program does kubuntu use to configure laptop keys ?
[10:19] <rohan> the extra keys, that is
[10:35] <caris_mere> I need a little help with a java installation problem
[10:36] <binks> i have a problem with 3 files showing in my /home but if i sudo rm -r them i get file doesnt exist
[10:36] <binks> any ideas plaese
[10:36] <binks> caris what up with java
[10:37] <binks> !java
[10:37] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[10:38] <caris_mere> binks: I started to install it with adept, but when it asked for license agreement, I wasn't able to confirm, so I interrupted the process, and that's where the problem starts
[10:38] <binks> ok if you show advanced on adept it asks for confirm use tab to highlight ok
[10:39] <caris_mere> binks: when I try to install now, it says E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[10:39] <binks> so did you run that in a terminal
[10:39] <caris_mere> first time no, second time yes
[10:40] <binks> also if your new to nix cheat and use automatix
[10:40] <caris_mere> I've already had problems with automatix
[10:41] <binks> did u install for edgy
[10:41] <caris_mere> dapper
[10:41] <Bluedog> Hey guys
[10:41] <binks> i just used it today was fine for me but that was a edgy install
[10:41] <Bluedog> the auto installer set my swap to 3gb.. didnt ask
[10:42] <Bluedog> how can I shrink that and increase / ?
[10:42] <Bluedog> (I have 2gb ram)
[10:42] <binks> show off lol
[10:42] <binks> caris_mere you got me someone a bit more nix admin needs to help
[10:43] <binks> try sudo apt-get remove
[10:43] <caris_mere> bink: thanks, I will try
[10:44] <caris_mere> binks: it says I should first try to reinstall
[10:45] <Bluedog> anyone? :D
[10:46] <caris_mere> binks: do you know how to give the command for reinstalling?
[10:46] <binks> !apt-get
[10:46] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[10:47] <caris_mere> binks: that's not what I wanted ...  :-) ... I was trying to be lazy
[10:47] <binks> truth is i dont no so im reading lol
[10:47] <caris_mere> binks: ah ha
[10:48] <fxr> how do i install python...
[10:48] <fxr> whic option do i select in my package manager..
[10:48] <fxr> i just want a minimal install
[10:48] <binks> apt-get -f install -- the same as Edit->Fix Broken Packages and Apply in synaptic. Do this if you get complaints about packages with unmet dependences.
[10:49] <binks> fxr is python not installed
[10:49] <binks> type python at a promt
[10:49] <fxr> its says its install
[10:49] <fxr> Python 2.4.4c1 (#2, Oct 11 2006, 21:51:02)
[10:49] <fxr> [GCC 4.1.2 20060928 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.1.1-13ubuntu5)]  on linux2
[10:50] <caris_mere> binks: thanks, that worked
[10:50] <fxr> so its installed already then binks?
[10:50] <binks> nice caris we learn today
[10:50] <binks> yes fxr
[10:50] <fxr> cool cheers..
[10:50] <binks> what you doin in python
[10:51] <fxr> m tyring to get a plugin working in amarok..
[10:51] <fxr> or a sxcript even
[10:52] <lombra> hi
[10:52] <lombra> good night
[10:52] <fxr> if i was install this tkinker thing.. would i have to reset anything to get python to notice it?
[10:54] <binks> no
[10:54] <caris_mere> does somebody know a good site that gives steps for installing java plugin in firefox?
[10:55] <Linux_Galore> !java
[10:55] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[10:55] <caris_mere> I've been there.  I have Java, but I need the plugin to be in firefox
[10:56] <Linux_Galore> caris_mere: did you configure the default
[10:56] <caris_mere> LInux_Galore: what do you mean?
[10:57] <Linux_Galore> aaah you didnt read the howto then
[10:57] <Bluedog> Can anyone tell me how to resize my boot partition in linux? Im going to shrink it, and split off /home onto its own.
[10:57] <Linux_Galore> caris_mere:  sudo update-alternatives --config java
[10:58] <Linux_Galore> caris_mere: right now Firefox cant access java because the system default version hasnt been set
[10:58] <elcuco> can anyone find the link for the restricted formats deb?
[10:59] <Linux_Galore> caris_mere: one the default version of java is setup firefox will see it in your path
[10:59] <Linux_Galore> once*
[10:59] <caris_mere> Linux_Galore: thanks
[11:00] <fribuntu> Hi all
[11:01] <avalon_>  Is there a way to tell my linksys router to only a specific IP address access to the internet ONLY? Like just port 80?
[11:01] <binks> well i found 2 new apps today swiftfox and superkaramba best do some pyqt now huh boring night all
[11:01] <fribuntu> avalon_: Depends on the firmware, I suppose.
[11:01] <fribuntu> avalon_: And it is not exactly a Kubuntu-question, is it?
[11:02] <Bluedog> anyone?
[11:02] <avalon_> It relates to it? I was able to do it until I upgraded to Ubuntu because the other machines connected through my computer.
[11:02] <Bluedog> Need a bootcd to resize my boot partition, to split off /home
[11:02] <fribuntu> avalon_: So you used your computer as a router?
[11:03] <avalon_> Kind of, but I don't want that any more.
[11:03] <fribuntu> avalon_: So you want a router to be used as a router? Ok. I still don't see the kubuntu connection.
[11:04] <fribuntu> avalon_: do you have a manual for that linksys router?
[11:04] <fribuntu> avalon_: You might want to check in that manual if it does also have some sort of firewall function and how to set that up.
[11:04] <avalon_> Yup.. but it's an explanation as to how to plug it up.
[11:05] <fribuntu> avalon_: I am sure you can get a more thorough documentation if you point your browser to the linksys pages.
[11:05] <Linux_Galore> BluesKaj: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/larry/resize/resizing.htm
[11:05] <barjoh10> hey anyone
[11:05] <barjoh10> hello
[11:05] <Linux_Galore> grr
[11:06] <fribuntu> avalon_: I do not know out of my head if it can be done and how to do it. My guess is you log into the GUI, set up a firewall to block all outgoing traffic except on port 80 and that's that.
[11:06] <fribuntu> oh brilliant, he left :)
[11:06] <barjoh10> hey i am not a treat
[11:06] <barjoh10> yes he left
[11:07] <barjoh10> adaptr how r u
[11:07] <adaptr> I'm good, thanks
[11:08] <barjoh10> hey ur from?
[11:08] <barjoh10> hi zanza
[11:09] <barjoh10> hello
[11:10] <barjoh10> hello
[11:10] <barjoh10> hello
[11:10] <barjoh10> hello
[11:10] <barjoh10> hello
[11:10] <barjoh10> hello
[11:10] <barjoh10> hello
[11:10] <barjoh10> helloitschin
[11:11] <Linux_Galore> barjoh10: please use #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:12] <Yuma> Hi there.
[11:13] <Yuma> I'm having the weirdest issue I've ever heard of.
[11:13] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: ask away
[11:13] <Yuma> I've modified a file in my computer (Kubuntu 6.10) and here its ok.
[11:14] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: : what type of file
[11:14] <Yuma> But the I use scp to copy it to my server (Linux From Scratch 5.10) and there it's like if I've never modified it.
[11:14] <Yuma> It's just a plain text.
[11:14] <Yuma> It's meant to be a php file.
[11:14] <itschin> Is there anyway I can force  a source for downloading using apt-get?
[11:14] <barjoh10> yuma yuma boooowhooooooo
[11:15] <Yuma> If I do a cat from the server, I get the old file.
[11:15] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: you can also copy it across with  konqueror   fish://ip_of_machine   just drag and drop it
[11:15] <itschin> Trying to apt-get install something from gb.archive.ubuntu.com and the speeds are crawling.
[11:16] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: you need to rename it
[11:16] <Yuma> If I edit it using vim it get wrong the change of line, but the modifications are there.
[11:16] <Yuma> I deleted the file from the server and uploaded again.
[11:16] <barjoh10> hey jerry go to#kubuntu-offtopic
[11:17] <barjoh10> yuma u need to rename it
[11:17] <Yuma> But, why?
[11:17] <Linux_Galore> Yuma:    so your using   scp  filename  user@192.168.0.3:"~/"   ?
[11:17] <barjoh10> but why
[11:18] <barjoh10> yuma so ur using it
[11:18] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: yep, scp server_name:/home/user/public_html/blah.php
[11:18] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: this is on the remote host not the machine your copying too
[11:18] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: file first not server
[11:18] <Atlan_> Yuma: the destination is missing
[11:18] <barjoh10> yeah first
[11:19] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: of course, I forgot, but I'm pretty sure I'm doing the scp fine.
[11:19] <barjoh10> yeah fine ur doing it
[11:19] <Yuma> scp blah.php server:/home/user/public_html/blah.php
[11:19] <Yuma> the user is the same in both computers, so there's no need to name it before the server.
[11:20] <barjoh10> in both ooooooooh
[11:20] <Yuma> I did a `ls` to make sure I copied it fine.
[11:20] <barjoh10> oooh u copied yuma
[11:20] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: so your on the remote host that has the file and your copying to another machine (that should have sshd running) you should use the syntax  scp  /path/to/file   user@remote_ip:"/path/to/directory/"    not the " quotes "
[11:20] <Linux_Galore> note*
[11:21] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: I'm _sure_ I did that good.
[11:21] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: Thanks.
[11:21] <Yuma> The problem is once its copied.
[11:21] <barjoh10> yeah thanks
[11:22] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: it wont gazump a file that already exists, sometimes you have to ssh  into the machine to trigger a signature
[11:22] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: I always ssh in first to trigger it off
[11:23] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: I'm already sshded to the server.
[11:23] <barjoh10> yeah ssshhh
[11:23] <Yuma> I'm checking what I'm doing from the ssh connection.
[11:23] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: you dont run scp within a ssh session though
[11:23] <barjoh10> conection
[11:23] <_eMaX_> anyone here has successfully printed from Java on ubuntu?
[11:23] <barjoh10> ssh
[11:23] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: because ti all becomes "backwards"
[11:23] <barjoh10> ssh
[11:24] <barjoh10> yeah me eMax
[11:24] <barjoh10> ssh
[11:24] <barjoh10> ssh
[11:24] <barjoh10> ssh
[11:24] <barjoh10> ssh
[11:24] <barjoh10> ssh
[11:24] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: So I should end the ssh session before I copy the file?
[11:24] <barjoh10> ssh
[11:24] <barjoh10> ssh
[11:24] <barjoh10> ssh
[11:24] <barjoh10> sssh
[11:24] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: no just open a new tab
[11:24] <barjoh10> ssh
[11:24] <barjoh10> ssh
[11:24] <barjoh10> ssjh
[11:24] <barjoh10> tab
[11:24] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: or terminal session
[11:24] <barjoh10> tab
[11:25] <barjoh10> tab
[11:25] <barjoh10> tab
[11:25] <barjoh10> tab
[11:25] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: I did that.
[11:25] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: dont ssh in just leave the old one running
[11:25] <barjoh10> terminal
[11:25] <binks> barjoh10 you got some attension grow up
[11:25] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: I'm having two sessions. One is looking in the server with ssh and the other is doing the scp.
[11:25] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: yep
[11:25] <BluE|> hey guys, i need a quick bit of help, trying to shrink my swap with gparted, but I cant get rid of the empty space sat in the middle of the drive...
[11:25] <BluE|> is there ANY way to get it out of there?
[11:25] <barjoh10> shet up i dont want ur @%$%$^ attention
[11:26] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: In the ssh I did delete the blah.php file and in the other session I did the scp.
[11:26] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: yep thats fine
[11:26] <TheDebugger> ssh ftw! :)
[11:26] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: In the ssh session I did a `cat` and a `vim` on the blah.php and then it happened what I described.
[11:26] <barjoh10> swsh
[11:26] <barjoh10> ssh
[11:26] <barjoh10> ssh
[11:26] <barjoh10> ssh
[11:26] <barjoh10> ssh
[11:26] <barjoh10> ssh
[11:26] <barjoh10> ssh
[11:26] <barjoh10> ssh
[11:27] <BluE|> anyone? kinda in the middle of the part session and dont wanna break it :D
[11:27] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: delete the file or "mv"  (move/rename) the file on the remote host, scp wont over write it
[11:27] <barjoh10> hey bleu whatever what u want
[11:27] <Yuma> \me thinks someone is "poca faena". (unbusy)
[11:28] <Yuma> Oops, the slash... Hahaha.
[11:28] <barjoh10> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah big joke
[11:28] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: I did that already.
[11:28] <fdoving> barjoh10: please behave.
[11:29] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: then copy the file across with scp, if your getting the wrong file it means your copying the wrong file, scp doesnt magically create old files
[11:29] <barjoh10> one sincere question without joking fdoving are u a girl serious
[11:30] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: computers are "dumb" and "literal"  they dont do random things unless there is a mistake in the process
[11:30] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: That is what I do, believe me, and that's why I said this is the weirdest thing I've ever seen.
[11:30] <fdoving> barjoh10: no, i'm not a girl.
[11:31] <barjoh10> oh i jst wanted to know
[11:31] <barjoh10>  bye everyone
[11:31] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: I'll take extra care this time, but I'm sure I'm having this again.
[11:31] <fdoving> bye barjoh10.
[11:31] <BluE|> ta ta :P
[11:32] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: scp is very very old, I use it every day at work with "zero problems"
[11:32] <katabatic> SOMEBODY please help me figure out why it's not connecting to the router with DHCP automatically on boot, on wired network. I can tell it to connect manually, and it connects, but not automatically at boot! I installed some packages, and it stopped working, can't figure out what.
[11:32] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: I'm using it also for a long time, the server is not new, that's why I don't understand why is this happening.
[11:32] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: and `cat` is the same old than `scp` (if not even more).
[11:33] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: I susepct your copying the wrong file across some how, if scp is copying an old file then "you are telling it to copy and old file"
[11:33] <Linux_Galore> an*
[11:33] <TheGateKeeper> how do I get konversation to automatically connect up on startup?
[11:34] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: be carefull with vim it creates "two versions" of a file
[11:34] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: But I don't even know how scp get the wrong file with `scp blah.php ...` and `vim blah.php` does the trick.
[11:34] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: you may be copying the cache over not the one you want
[11:35] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: open the file in vim  press esc  :wq   just to make sure it written to
[11:35] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: But one is backup only, and you open the original file always, and if it finds some differences between both then ask you what to do.
[11:35] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: actually vim reads the cache not the file
[11:35] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: that why I always "cat filename"  just to make sure
[11:36] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: I'll check, but kate, vim, and quanta shows me the right file.
[11:37] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: kate also reads the cache not sure about quanta
[11:37] <Bizzy> hey, i installed apache2, mod_php5 and php5 on kubuntu, can someone help me configure it properly
[11:37] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: `cat` showed the old file.
[11:37] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: ha
[11:37] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: I can't believe it.
[11:38] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: This has never happened to me.
[11:38] <bonbonthejon> Bizzy: I usually follow this tutorial, http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06
[11:38] <flo> anyone know how can i tell tvtime to remember the 16:10 mate that i'vd aplied when it restarts?
[11:38] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: But I realized I have Quanta opened, that could be a problem.
[11:38] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: open vim and press  esc :wq
[11:39] <Linux_Galore> opent he file "in vim" sorry
[11:39] <intelikey> echo bob > test ;echo joe > test~ ;vim test
[11:39] <intelikey> or kate test
[11:39] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: I did that and `cat` reports the old file.
[11:39] <shadowhywind> hay all i am backing an isssue with wine, when ever i open something with wine, my Xserver restarts
[11:39] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: This is more than the cache issue.
[11:39] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: then it is the old file
[11:40] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: your saving the changed one to a different place
[11:40] <tommy1987> anybody live in switzerland here?
[11:40] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: ignore that
[11:41] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: sometimes if the txt file becomes "broken" for some weird reason some apps start reading the bloody cache
[11:41] <BluE|> ahh I need help. Gparted just failed with a segfault after starting partitioning.
[11:41] <BluE|> What should I do?
[11:41] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: From the vim editor showing the new version: :w blah2.php. Then exit :q. And goes to a terminal and do `cat blah2.php`and shows the old file.
[11:41] <BluE|> my swap now shows as unknown
[11:41] <Yuma> This is really weird...
[11:42] <tommy1987> BluEJ maybe you should restart and try gparted again
[11:42] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: very rare, does happen
[11:42] <BluE|> i think it may have broken something tho
[11:42] <BluE|> :/
[11:42] <tommy1987> hmm
[11:42] <BluE|> hmm
[11:42] <BluE|> formatted the 'unknown' as swap, seems to be ok..
[11:42] <bonbonthejon> Bizzy: did you see my link above?
[11:42] <tommy1987> well its highly unlikely any hardware is damaged :-/
[11:42] <BluE|> fingers crossed :O
[11:42] <BluE|> yeah its my data im worried for :O
[11:42] <tommy1987> its damn near impossible
[11:43] <Linux_Galore> Yuma:   save the file to a new name and make sure were you saved it is correct
[11:43] <tommy1987> oh right then I would be very concerned!
[11:43] <BluE|> haha :D
[11:43] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: the changed file that is
[11:43] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: I'll write the commands I do.
[11:43] <BluE|> luckily it was just messing with an empty swap
[11:44] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: sop basically scp copied the old file over lol, not the changed one
[11:44] <tommy1987> oh right then you should be fine, obviously you are on another machine now then?
[11:44] <BluE|> livecd :)
[11:44] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: as i said, computers are "dumb"
[11:44] <psynth> No updates about the issue with 64bit browser and flash, a few moths ago it was a no go !?
[11:44] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: I know computers are "dumb" but this one is smart or I'm the dumb...
[11:45] <jordo23_> Jucato: I FINALLY got flash 9 working with konq...
[11:45] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: once you get used to that you will become a good admin
[11:45] <tommy1987> BluEJokay, so explain exactly what happened then
[11:45] <psynth> 64 bit and flash, whats the rumor or deal today ?
[11:46] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: Ok, then I'll send you the file.
[11:46] <BluE|> i set up gparted to resize my swap, and give the space to another partition
[11:46] <BluE|> but 1s in it segfaulted...
[11:46] <BluE|> panicked, but it may be ok now :)
[11:46] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: all I will see is what "cat"  shows you
[11:46] <Bizzy> bonbonthejon: thanks for the link :)
[11:46] <intelikey> BluE| did you sudo swapoff -a  first ?
[11:47] <bonbonthejon> Bizzy: cool, hope it helps
[11:47] <BluE|> am I right to think that empty space between an ntfs and an ext3 cant go onto the ext3 if the ext3 is after?
[11:47] <BluE|> intelikey: im on a livecd, its all unmounted
[11:47] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: How do you edit a file if you don't trust vim, kate, quanta? You do some echo "long source code" > code.php?
[11:47] <intelikey> BluE| are you sure ?
[11:47] <BluE|> yeah
[11:48] <BluE|> i ran gparted in the real install, and it was all locked
[11:48] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: I usually just cat > newfile.txt
[11:48] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: You don't trust `cp`?
[11:48] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: then delete the old one
[11:48] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: cat is very literal
[11:48] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: you can use cp
[11:49] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: up to you
[11:49] <Linux_Galore> cat oldfile,txt > newfile.txt
[11:49] <Linux_Galore> cp oldfile,txt  newfile.txt,  same crap
[11:50] <frojnd> hello!
[11:50] <intelikey> BluE| well.    i would rather than resizing a swap partition   delete it and resize the partition you want to grow then make a new swap in the empty    (actually if not a lappy that you want to hybernate, i wouldn't even have a swap partition tho)
[11:50] <frojnd> I added second user
[11:50] <fxr> how do set up to monitor my cpu temps.. ?
[11:50] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: I tried the cp way and nothing happened, I'll use the cat way, but I'm not expecting new results.
[11:50] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: your doing something wrong or you not in the path of the correct file
[11:51] <frojnd> How can I connect on local computer (windows) if I know it's username and password and I added this user to my linux mascine
[11:51] <intelikey> fxr look into lmsensors
[11:51] <bonbonthejon> fxr: i use ksensors
[11:51] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: I'll swear you I'm in the right place!
[11:51] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: Look this last results.
[11:51] <Linux_Galore> Yuma:  pwd
[11:51] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: If I do a `cat blah.php` I see the old thing in the terminal.
[11:52] <intelikey> lm-sensors - utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors
[11:52] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: If I do a `cat blah.php > blah2.php; cat blah2.php` I see the new version.
[11:52] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: And please, trust me when I tell you I'm in the same directory.
[11:52] <intelikey> ksensors - lm-sensors frontend for KDE
[11:52] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: wierd,  scp the new file over now
[11:52] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: I did the two commands one after the other, nothing between.
[11:53] <bonbonthejon> intelikey: lm-sensors doesn't work on my laptop, but ksensors was still able to display the temp
[11:53] <Yuma> Linux_Galore: I send you a private message, please download the file and try the `cat` and `kate` yourself.
[11:53] <intelikey> odd seeing that ksensors - lm-sensors frontend for KDE
[11:53] <fxr> i tried lmsensor, didnt work.. ll have a nose at ksensors then thanks ppl
[11:54] <bonbonthejon> intelikey: ksensors was still able to look in /proc or whereever to find the temp
[11:54] <Linux_Galore> Yuma: yeah
[11:54] <intelikey> bonbonthejon if the temp is in /proc you don't need an app....   just grep the info at any time
[11:55] <bonbonthejon> intelikey: yeah, but its nice to see it in the task bar
[11:55] <intelikey> this old hardware doesn't have sensors  so i can't test...
[11:55] <ted_> hi everyone :) my computer wants to reach a file called "wpa_supplicant.conf". but it doesnt exist. what to do?
[11:57] <intelikey> !wifi
[11:57] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:57] <ted_> thx :D
[11:58] <dave_> hiya ppl - is there any probs with installing the KDE front end over the GNOME one in UBUNTU ? or should i just download the KUBUNTU.iso to save hassle ?
[11:58] <dave_> bare in mind i'm a noob lol
[11:59] <intelikey> dave_ shouldn't cause any problems   the  kde  package is a meta package that will install all the kde apps.
[11:59] <Bluedog> seems fine :) thank god
[12:00] <intelikey> note  i said kde not kubuntu     kubuntu apps are not all kde related    and not all kde apps are in the kubuntu defaults
[12:00] <dave_> cheers intelikey - baring in mind that I am a noob is there any obvious improvmenets over GNOME ?
[12:01] <frojnd> it says I have installed lm-sensors
[12:01] <frojnd> how do I use them?
[12:01] <intelikey> dave_ baring in mind that with software there is no "best" it's all personal openion,  i can't answer that.   try them all keep what you like.
[12:01] <dave_> cheers :D
[12:02] <_eMaX_> re
[12:02] <ted_> !wlan
[12:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wlan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:02] <dave_> !vmware
[12:02] <ubotu> vmware is VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
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[12:02] <ted_> !wep
[12:03] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:03] <_eMaX_> barjoh10 are you still there?
[12:03] <intelikey> frojnd   " dpkg -L lm-sensors | grep bin/  "      should list all the executables that the package installed.  and man "command"  should explain what they do.
[12:03] <frojnd> No manual entry for lm-sensors
[12:04] <intelikey> so man the individule commands
[12:04] <intelikey> le/al
[12:04] <_eMaX_> anyone else here been able to print from java in ubuntu?
[12:04] <intelikey> i before e except after five beers or when sounded like....
[12:05] <MrLinux> hello
[12:06] <MrLinux> I need some help
[12:06] <MrLinux> is some one on-line ?
[12:07] <Yuma> MrLinux: Ask, someone will read it, :)
[12:07] <MrLinux> helooo
[12:07] <MrLinux> ok
[12:07] <apol> MrLinux: you shold make the question and if someone knows it, he will answer
[12:07] <MrLinux> I have istalled now Kubuntu
[12:07] <NeonLightning> to mount a drive so my main user can acess it would be mount -uid 500 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 right?
[12:07] <intelikey> Yuma you mess everything up.
[12:07] <frojnd> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1235/
[12:07] <MrLinux> and how do I open the port 22 ??
[12:08] <MrLinux> PLease I need Help
[12:08] <Yuma> intelikey: I want to know how to fix it... hehe.
[12:08] <Yuma> MrLinux: You should have it open.
[12:08] <intelikey> MrLinux install ssh
[12:08] <MrLinux> what ?
[12:08] <Yuma> MrLinux: You probably want to install the ssh daemon.
[12:08] <intelikey> install ssh
[12:08] <MrLinux> how ?
[12:08] <intelikey> it's a package
[12:08] <MrLinux> yes I know that
[12:08] <intelikey> use the package manager
[12:09] <MrLinux> Kubuntu is not istaled now
[12:09] <intelikey> frojnd modprobe the i2c module ?
[12:09] <MrLinux> I run it from the LIVE CD
[12:09] <MrLinux> and I wannt to see I'f I can open the 22 port
[12:10] <MrLinux> can I do that if is not realy istaled ?
[12:10] <frojnd> intelikey: I have no idea what this is
[12:10] <intelikey> open it for what ?
[12:10] <intelikey> MrLinux yes  install ssh
[12:10] <MrLinux> where to go ?
[12:11] <MrLinux> Add/Remove programs ?
[12:11] <Yuma> MrLinux: You have it already open. But there's nothing to listen in that port, so it's "like" it's closed.
[12:11] <katabatic> SOMEBODY please help me figure out why it's not connecting to the router with DHCP automatically on boot, on wired network. I can tell it to connect manually, and it connects, but not automatically at boot! I installed some packages, and it stopped working, can't figure out what.
[12:11] <intelikey> frojnd sudo modprobe i2c-<yourchipset>      modprobe -l | grep '/i2c-'   for a list
[12:12] <MrLinux> Yuma
[12:12] <MrLinux> so how do I install it ?
[12:12] <MrLinux> from Add/Remove Programs ?
[12:13] <intelikey> MrLinux yes add remove programs      adept    synaptic    apt-get     aptitude     take your pick
[12:13] <NeonLightning> adept
[12:13] <Yuma> MrLinux: The easy way is to open the K menu and System, and then Adept.
[12:13] <NeonLightning> oh didn't know aptitude was on the live cd
[12:13] <Yuma> MrLinux: There you search for ssh.
[12:13] <Yuma> MrLinux: Have you opened the Adept yet?
[12:13] <frojnd> intelikey: I do sudo modprobe i2c-<yourchipset>      modprobe -l | grep '/i2c-'   for a list   ->FATAL: Can't have multiple wildcards
[12:13] <animimotus> hi
[12:14] <MrLinux> is no Adept man
[12:14] <frojnd> without "for a list"
[12:14] <MrLinux> in K menu System Settings
[12:14] <Yuma> MrLinux: Then open a terminal.
[12:14] <animimotus> in amaroK, where can I desactive the caps transformation for title ?
[12:14] <Yuma> MrLinux: And write this without the quotes, "apt-get install ssh".