=== czedlitz [n=czedlitz@ip70-161-80-244.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #launchpad [12:56] hello [01:03] about nine hours ago, I received some email addressed to desktop-bugs and an email addressed to jonathan@ubuntu.com sent from launchpad. I don't think I was meant to receive any of those messages. [01:04] were they about a launchpad bug? [01:04] if so, what number? [01:05] LarstiQ: several bugs. just fetching the numbers. [01:06] 20751, 39119, 56610, 78616, 6710 [01:07] I think I am being set up with an @ubuntu.com address, the error might be related to that. [01:11] jml: I can't see why you would get those === LarstiQ would either file a support ticket, or ask on launchpad-users [01:12] LarstiQ: ok. thanks. [01:16] jml: whats your lp account name ? [01:16] lifeless: jml-mumak [01:17] is there a jonathan ? ... [01:17] there is [01:17] indeed. [01:18] conflict! [01:18] file an rt request for this [01:18] I suspect you should not get jonathan@ubuntu.com ;) [01:18] right. [01:18] poolie can file the rt request for you === cprov [n=cprov@monga.dorianet.com.br] has joined #launchpad === cprov is now known as cprov-afk [01:19] lifeless: given that the emails were received over a period of two minutes 10 hours ago, I think maybe it was just a temporary error. [01:19] jml: ah [01:20] lifeless: but it's someone's email, so I'd like to make sure. [01:20] theres an easy test [01:20] yeah :) [01:20] forward those mails unaltered to jonathan@ubuntu.com [01:21] thats 'redirect' in some mail clients [01:23] forward or bounce? [01:24] LarstiQ: bounce sends them back to the origin. Not bounce. [01:27] lifeless: most certainly not in mutt. [01:28] lifeless: bouncing a mail will look like it was intended for the recipient [01:28] whereas forwarding makes it clear you are passing it on [01:28] LarstiQ: interesting. then bounce. [01:28] hmm. gmail seems to lack redirect and bounce. [01:28] for mutt users [01:28] jml: pop it off, then bounce/redirect [01:30] Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders! [01:36] :] === _thumper_ [n=tim@166-179-30-164.jamamobile.co.nz] has joined #launchpad === _thumper_ is now known as thumper [02:01] jml: hello [02:01] jml: what do you want your email address and userid to be? [02:02] poolie: 'jml' for both. [02:03] ok [02:03] launchpad already has a jml? === jml checks [02:05] LarstiQ: yes, it does. [02:06] LarstiQ: though the account looks unused. === freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.220.145] has joined #launchpad [02:22] jml, poolie, LarstiQ: if it is really unused let me know and I can shuffle them around when you're finished === kiko-afk is now known as kiko-zzz [02:22] email me [02:22] zzz === freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.220.145] has joined #launchpad === freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.220.145] has joined #launchpad === freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.220.145] has joined #launchpad === mpt wonders why "[r=BornT] " worked [03:28] because its a regex, not a list of reviewers === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.13.123.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.220.145] has joined #launchpad === czedlitz_ [n=czedlitz@ip70-161-80-244.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #launchpad === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.49.220.145] has joined #launchpad === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.49.220.145] has joined #launchpad === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-102-172.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #launchpad === Bhaskar 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[07:19] Bhaskar: could you rephrase that? [07:20] jamesh: i am working on new template: schooltool development series [07:21] okay [07:25] jamesh:i think i need knowledge on zope and python [07:25] Bhaskar: iirc, rosetta imports the list of strings to translate from the PO template pretty directly. [07:26] james: u mean upload [07:36] jamesh: i think u have knowledge on python, how can i learn python [07:37] Bhaskar: I first learned Python from the tutorial found on the Python web site [07:38] james: well, from python.org [07:38] Bhaskar: also, Ubuntu installs a copy of the book "Dive Into Python", which is another place to start [07:38] jamesh: well [07:39] jamesh: say something about zope [07:40] Bhaskar: it is a framework you can use to build web applications. If you are just interested in altering the appearance of schooltool, learning about zope page templates would be a good place to start [07:41] Bhaskar: you shouldn't need much Python experience to modify existing page templates [07:41] jamesh: i want to add some featutes on schooltool, so [07:42] Bhaskar: I'd suggest reading the source code and documentation then [07:42] Bhaskar: perhaps ask questions on #schooltool if you run into a brick wall [07:42] but if you are new to programming in general, I'd recommend getting a feel for that first. [07:42] jamess:well thanks [07:43] jamesh: zope and python is new for me , but not new programming [07:44] jamesh: i m also a programmer of c , c++, VB, java [07:45] Bhaskar: okay. You should like Python then :) [07:46] jamesh: well === SnkBite [n=SnkBite@212.25.63.197] has joined #launchpad [07:56] How long does it usually take for a push to launchpad to show up on the website? [07:57] somerville32: hopefully only a few minutes, but sometimes as long as a day. [07:57] somerville32: stuff's on manual now remember. [07:57] somerville32: and everything thru NEW [07:57] I'm talking about bzr branches [07:58] somerville32: so am I :) [07:58] Or does that still apply? [07:58] spiv: I know [07:58] I was talking to Hobbsee [08:00] somerville32: no idea on that one [08:02] Is there still a netsplit. #bazaar seems rather empty [08:03] doh [08:03] #bzr === quail [n=quail@unaffiliated/quaillinux/x-000001] has joined #launchpad [08:07] somerville32: btw, it appears that branch is mirrored now [08:08] Unless you've pushed more than 2 revisions..? [08:08] nope [08:08] And how do you know which branch I pushed? :P [08:08] I searched for "somerville" at https://launchpad.net/people :) [08:08] somerville32: there is a time delay between when you push to sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net and when it shows up on http://bazaar.launchpad.net === somerville32 nods. [08:09] somerville32: and another small delay between that and when the branch data is scanned and the website updated [08:09] And found a person claiming to be somerville32 on freenode, and then looked at their branches :) [08:09] I find it silly that I had to subscribe to the branch to get it to show up on my launchpad page [08:10] you shouldn't need to [08:10] The registrant is a team I own [08:10] ah. [08:10] So that other members of the team can commit [08:11] you could file a bug about that ... [08:11] Yes, please file a bug. [08:12] Ok :) [08:16] I finally got my passport back this morning [08:16] jamesh: has it got a big yellow visa stuck in it now? [08:17] sent it off to the embassy on 14th December, and they got round to processing the visa on Tuesday [08:17] well, it is a yellowish colour, yes [08:17] It's so much faster to deal with the Sydney consulate in person! [08:18] even though I'm going to be in Sydney next week, it seems I wouldn't be able to get a visa from that consulate [08:18] since it only covers people living in Sydney [08:18] or NSW [08:19] Joy. [08:19] I would be allowed to go to the Canberra consulate in person though :) [08:19] jamesh: clearly the solution is to move east. If you move far enough east, and become a NZ citizen, you don't even need the visa ;) [08:20] Of course, then you'd be a NZ citizen. [08:20] I'd have to learn the local language too [08:23] Bug #49583 [08:23] Malone bug 49583 in launchpad-bazaar "no way for a normal user to register a branch as a team (dup-of: 51130)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49583 [08:23] Malone bug 51130 in launchpad-bazaar "cannot rename a branch I own" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/51130 - Assigned to David Allouche (ddaa) [08:23] I like how they use an exchange rate of 0.5 for the visa charges rather than the actual exchange rate of 1.6784 === marcus_notebook [n=mholthau@johnny33.dersbach.ch] has joined #launchpad [08:25] New bug: #78760 in launchpad-bazaar "Branches registered to team not listed on member's pages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78760 === silwol [n=silwol@193.170.132.134] has joined #launchpad === silwol [n=silwol@193.170.132.134] has left #launchpad [] === matthewrevell [n=matthew@82-47-80-63.stb.ubr05.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === carlos [n=carlos@167.Red-88-0-136.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad [08:37] morning [08:38] carlos:morning [08:47] spiv: Is this suppose to be empty? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-welcome-centre/xubuntu-welcome-centre/trunk/ === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad [08:51] somerville32: the webpage? Yes. It's just the default apache listing, so it doesn't show the .bzr directory that's there. [08:51] kk [08:51] somerville32: it's a URL intended for use with bzr, not a web browser :) [08:51] Wheres the web browser? :P === glatzor [n=sebi@p54964B27.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === jinty [n=jinty@196.207.32.235] has joined #launchpad [09:14] spiv: are you attending the lp meeting tonight? === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad === marcus_notebook [n=mholthau@146.191.79.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #launchpad === heno [n=henrik@ubuntu/member/heno] has joined #launchpad === silwol [n=silwol@193.170.132.134] has joined #launchpad [09:46] hey heno [09:46] matthewrevell: hey :) === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #launchpad === stu1 [n=stub@ppp-58.8.14.75.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad [09:56] lifeless, stub : Ping [09:58] pong [10:00] New bug: #78767 in launchpad "Sync Bug tables columns with IBug interface" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78767 === silwol [n=silwol@193.170.132.134] has joined #launchpad === stu1 is now known as stub === cprov [n=cprov@monga.dorianet.com.br] has joined #launchpad [10:13] good morning, guys ! === Ppjet6_ [n=ppjet6@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-130-254.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad === mholthaus [n=mholthau@146.191.79.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #launchpad [10:34] BjornT: ping [10:38] hi matthewrevell [10:47] thumper: yeah === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@mail.foredil.it] has joined #launchpad === mholthaus_ [n=mholthau@47.130.78.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #launchpad [10:59] BjornT: the pending-reviews script is outputting some branch info at the top of the diffs now, btw [11:00] jamesh: yeah, i saw that on the diff i just downloaded. good job! [11:04] spiv: do you mind being one of the two bzrlp attendees so I don't have to stay up till 1am? [11:17] thumper: maybe you should have stayed in London :) === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@242-235.dial.nortenet.pt] has joined #launchpad === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #launchpad [11:37] HEllo! [11:37] What could be the reason for something like this? [11:37] > lizardking@iac:~/src/bzr/oransoda$ bzr push [11:37] > sftp://iacopo-masi@bazaar.launchpad.net/~iacopo-masi/oransoda-look/main [11:37] > bzr: ERROR: File exists: u'/~iacopo-masi/oransoda-look/main': mkdir [11:37] > failed: unable to mkdir === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #launchpad === somerville32 used to know. [11:43] hey seb128 [11:43] re dholbach [11:45] (regarding my question above: the user has stored his SSH keys in LP and created the product, he even tried a different name for the branch) [11:46] So... they went [11:46] bzr init [11:46] bzr commit [11:46] bzr push ? [11:48] is iacopo-masi his username? [11:48] bzr add * (in between) [11:48] but yes [11:48] Did he register the branch? [11:50] hmmm, yes === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #launchpad === matsubara [n=matsubar@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad === jml [n=jml@ppp110-243.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === jml [n=jml@ppp110-243.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad [12:07] matsubara: Hey - I've created the page we spoke about: https://launchpad.canonical.com/FixItFriday/Consideration [12:09] matthewrevell: cool! I'll subscribe to it now, and later on I'll take a look at the bugs listed there and tag accordingly. thanks. [12:09] matsubara: Thanks :) === niemeyer [n=niemeyer@201.11.214.142] has joined #launchpad === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.149.0.141] has joined #launchpad === niemeyer [n=niemeyer@201.11.214.142] has joined #launchpad [12:18] dholbach: the simplest thing to do in that case is to rename the branch "main" (via the web UI) to something else, and push again. [12:19] spiv: I'll tell him. Thanks. [12:19] spiv: Do you have any idea why that happened? [12:19] dholbach: there's a fix in the works for bzr that will deal with the problem transparently [12:19] ah cool [12:19] Usually, it's that the initial push got interrupted/aborted very early. [12:20] So the directory gets made (which on the launchpad SFTP service registers the branch), perhaps an incomplete .bzr directory gets created. [12:20] ahh ok [12:21] And currently there's no way to delete branches on the launchpad SFTP service. === silwol [n=silwol@193.170.132.134] has joined #launchpad [12:21] Right [12:21] gracias! :) [12:21] And the bzr client currently won't push to a directory that already exists and has no .bzr directory, or an incomplete .bzr directory. [12:22] yeah, that makes sense now [12:22] Soon (perhaps even in 0.14) bzr will cope with most forms of half-pushed branches and just recover the way you'd expect. [12:22] And eventually we'll let you delete branches in Launchpad too :) [12:22] hehehe [12:23] The other possible cause of that error is trying to push to a branch that is not a push branch (i.e. it's an import from SVN, or a bzr branch hosted elsewhere that launchpad is merely mirroring). [12:24] thumper: I guess... anything I ought to know or tell the meeting? :) === silwol [n=silwol@193.170.132.134] has left #launchpad [] [12:25] thanks again [12:25] thumper: I'm not sure what there is to report from the bzr-lp team. [12:25] dholbach: not a problem. If it's still broken, it'll be my fault, so let me know :) [12:26] I'll do that :) [12:28] gnight === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.149.0.141] has joined #launchpad === mholthaus_ [n=mholthau@47.130.78.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #launchpad [12:45] New bug: #78780 in launchpad "Code that handles pillar names redirection shouldn't crash when the URL contains non-ascii characters" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78780 === salgado [n=salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad [12:57] gooooooooooood morning launchpad [01:00] when kiko's script signals "me", we'll know that the meeting should start :) [01:00] Welcome to this week's Launchpad Development meeting [01:00] me === kiko-zzz is now known as kiko [01:00] kiko-zzz: stop using that bot! [01:00] for the next 45 minutes, we'll be reporting, organising and arranging various aspects of launchpad development [01:00] who's here today? [01:00] me [01:01] me [01:01] me [01:01] me [01:01] me [01:01] me [01:01] me [01:01] me [01:01] me [01:01] me [01:01] me [01:01] francis still on leave [01:01] ddaa still on leave [01:02] thumper: ? [01:02] kiko: ? [01:02] asleep at the keys! [01:02] (pedantically) [01:02] I am obviously absent [01:02] did I miss anyone? [01:03] == Agenda == [01:03] * Roll call [01:03] * Agenda [01:03] * Next meeting [01:03] * Activity reports [01:03] * Actions from last meeting [01:03] * Oops report (Matsubara) [01:03] me [01:03] * Bug report (mpt) [01:03] me [01:03] * Bug tags [01:03] * Production and staging (Stuart) [01:03] * Launchpad 1.0 status reports [01:03] * Sysadmin requests [01:03] ---- [01:03] * Doing a self-review, and how to do it (JamesH) [01:03] * Email thread about recording/determining which revision fixed a particular bug (mpt) [01:03] * MatthewRevell to file a bug when he wants a link to documentation from the UI - is everyone happy with that? (MatthewRevell) [01:03] * Top two user-affecting issues as identified by MatthewRevell. [01:03] * (other items) [01:03] ---- [01:03] * Three sentences [01:03] [01:03] next meeting -- same time same channel next week [01:03] * activity reports [01:04] I'm still behind with these. :-/ [01:04] I'm up to date [01:04] up to date [01:04] behind (missing two for last week's thursday and friday) [01:04] up to date [01:04] not up to date [01:04] I'm up to date [01:04] up to date [01:04] not up to date [01:04] behind (missing last two days, will send today) [01:04] up to date, sent a batch with the pending ones today. [01:04] up to date [01:04] not up to date [01:04] behind [01:04] * Actions from last meeting [01:05] * matthewrevell to check out [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelTeamLPWishList the Ubuntu team wishlist] for FixItFriday tasks [01:05] * SteveA to send thumper his dbschema refactoring plans === silwol [n=silwol@193.170.132.134] has joined #launchpad [01:05] not done [01:05] * kiko to talk to matsubara about matsubara delegating his Oops-reporting responsibilities when he is away [01:05] * Everyone to read [https://help.launchpad.net/CreatingYourLaunchpadAccount the "Creating your Launchpad account" quick-start guide] , and give feedback to matthewrevell [01:05] * Everyone to read [https://help.launchpad.net/FixItFriday the Fix-It-Friday process document] , and give feedback to matthewrevell [01:05] so [01:05] in order [01:05] matthewrevell: did you check out teh devel team list? === silwol [n=silwol@193.170.132.134] has left #launchpad [] [01:05] I've been through the list and tagged those that I thought were FiF material but Kiko pointed out that I was quite right on some. So, Matsubara now has a list of candidates [01:06] to help me identify which are FiF-able [01:06] Sorry, kiko pointed I *wasn't* quite right [01:06] as some were far more involved than I'd realised. [01:06] ok, so we have bugs and tags now === silwol [n=silwol@193.170.132.134] has joined #launchpad [01:06] Yes, but the bugs I've tagged are subject to matsubara's review [01:06] thumper: can we arrange a voice call about the dbschema stuff so I can hand it over to you? [01:07] matthewrevell: I can't seem to access https://help.launchpad.net/FixItFriday === silwol [n=silwol@193.170.132.134] has left #launchpad [] [01:07] ah, right https://launchpad.canonical.com/FixItFriday [01:07] danilos: https://launchpad.canonical.com/FixItFriday [01:07] kiko, matsubara: did the talk about oops reporting responsibilities and vacations happen? [01:07] SteveA, have not talked to matsubara about that but I'll do that today. [01:07] ok, action for kikok [01:07] or kiko even [01:08] quick poll: please say "read it" if you have read CreatingYourLaunchpadAccount, and "not read it" if you have not [01:08] not read it [01:08] read it [01:08] I read it and have comments to send today [01:08] not read it [01:08] read it [01:08] not read [01:08] read it [01:08] read it [01:09] read it [01:09] read it and tweaked it [01:09] not read [01:09] read it [01:09] read it [01:09] it could probably do with a "what if I don't get the email?" section [01:10] thanks everyone who has read it, and particularly those who have offered matthew feedback [01:10] jamesh: Thanks [01:10] everyone who has not read it, please do so today, right after the meeting [01:10] https://help.launchpad.net/FixItFriday : please say "read it" or "not read it" [01:10] read it [01:10] read it [01:10] read it [01:10] read it [01:10] read it [01:10] read it [01:10] read it [01:11] not read it [01:11] read it [01:11] read it [01:11] read it [01:11] read it [01:11] read it [01:11] awesome [01:11] read it [01:11] high fives all round! [01:12] That url is incorrect :-( [01:12] except for kiko [01:12] kiko: please read it today [01:12] stub, https://launchpad.canonical.com/FixItFriday [01:12] cprov, SteveA, salgado, carlos: to read CreatingYourLaunchpadAccount [01:12] today [01:12] stub: that's why everyone read it, it points to a wiki Non existent page which is very easy to read :P === kiko frowns at SteveA [01:13] other than SteveA and thumper to arrange a call about handing over the dbschema refactoring... [01:13] that concludes the actions from last meeting [01:13] * Oops report (Matsubara) [01:13] Today's oops report is about bug 78780, OOPS-373D744, OOPS-370A290, OOPS-368A10 [01:13] Malone bug 78780 in launchpad "Code that handles pillar names redirection shouldn't crash when the URL contains non-ascii characters" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78780 [01:13] https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/373D744 [01:13] https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/370A290 [01:13] https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/368A10 [01:13] stub, can you take #78780? [01:13] mpt, the arrowRight.gif (OOPS-368A10) is still broken. Can you fix that please? [01:13] https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/368A10 [01:13] ok [01:14] OOPS-370A290 is a bug in rosetta which carlos already has a fix [01:14] https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/370A290 [01:14] carlos: care to explain? [01:14] that bug is in some obsolete code [01:14] that we just moved to javascript [01:14] instead of POST submissions [01:14] it's inside my TranslationReview [01:14] that it's waiting for a review [01:14] OOPS 373D744 seems to be about missing plural forms entry for Telugu language [01:14] carlos, which I'm going to review today [01:15] salgado: cool, thanks [01:15] matsubara, do you know if that's represented by an open bug report? [01:15] mpt: I'll file one after the meeting. [01:15] we can track bugs, but not oopses [01:15] indeed. [01:15] thanks matsubara [01:16] we need to contact someone from https://beta.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-te to find out what are the proper plural forms and then set them up [01:16] danilos: can you do it please? [01:16] matsubara, danilos: That OOPs is also fixed with my TranslationReview branch [01:17] matsubara: sure, should I use a support request to track this? [01:17] wow, thanks carlos! [01:17] danilos: can we check the upstream translations coming into rosetta for that? [01:17] _submitCopyRequest method has been removed completely [01:17] carlos: great to hear that [01:17] mpt, how come we keep having problems with these images? [01:17] it's the fifth week now [01:18] kiko, because I didn't know it wasn't fixed until a couple of minutes ago [01:18] jamesh: sure we can [01:18] danilos: anyway.... the system should prevent anyone from doing translations if we don't have plural form information... [01:18] SteveA: I have a question on process. When someone has fixed a oops in a branch (unrelated to the OOPS), should I still file a bug for that oops? [01:18] mpt, that's not what I asked -- it's why it was broken in the first place? [01:19] matsubara: how do you know they've fixed the oops in this case? [01:19] That's a different question [01:19] carlos: right, that's something we should take care of when registering a ubuntu-l10n-LL team, imo [01:19] indeed [01:19] matsubara: do they tell you? do you try to reproduce it on staging? [01:19] SteveA: because I asked them some help to debug the oops [01:19] kiko, because someone confused the filename with the resource name, asking for

(iirc) [01:20] mpt, so just so I understand, now it's a broken template, or a broken image? [01:20] SteveA: the concrete case i'm talking is about the 2 oops presented today, which carlos fixed both in his TranslationReview branch [01:21] kiko, broken template. [01:21] matsubara: I'd like all oopses to have an associated bug, so that we can track them if they reoccur, and so that kiko can refer to them in a report (for example). But, I don't want to make work for you that isn't valuable. [01:21] thanks mpt^2 === shawn___ [n=shawn@adsl-70-132-3-177.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] has joined #launchpad [01:22] matsubara: another issue is that this oops will keep occuring until carlos' code is rolled out [01:22] matsubara: so, maybe the bug is valuable to point people at? [01:22] SteveA: makes sense, so I'll file the bugs. [01:23] what I'm saying is, if there's value in having the bug, we should have it. If it doesn't make much difference to anything else, then we needn't. [01:23] ok, thanks [01:23] matsubara: are you done with the oops report? [01:23] filing the bugs also helps with my karma whoring efforts :P [01:23] kiko, actually, that image is used twice in the CSS. I fixed one occurrence but not the other. There's your reason. :-) [01:23] there's a good reason :-) [01:23] anyway, thanks everyone. I'm done SteveA === mpt fixes the other [01:23] mpt, AH. I suspected as such. [01:23] * Bug report (mpt) [01:24] mpt, did somebody review that patch? [01:24] never mind about the bug report, matsubara, I'll merge it now [01:24] but first === BjornT- [n=bjorn@213.226.190.250] has joined #launchpad [01:24] (no, it was a one-liner, and therefore trivial...) [01:24] sorry, my internet connect went down === matsubara nods to mpt [01:24] Launchpad has 12 known Critical bugs without released fixes. The oldest ten are: [01:24] * Bug #30602 (Timeout errors in +translate), Critical, In Progress, kiko [01:24] * Bug #68295 (private), Critical, In Progress, kiko [01:24] Malone bug 30602 in rosetta "Timeout errors in +translate" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30602 - Assigned to Christian Reis (kiko) [01:24] Bug 68295 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/68295 is private [01:24] kiko, this isn't nagging, honest, ;-) but can you explain a little bit about what's involved in #30602? Is it dependent on a complicated refactoring? [01:24] ya [01:24] y === lizardking_ [n=lizardki@87.18.129.14] has joined #launchpad [01:25] * Bug #46589 (Poll crashes if you select default poll option), Critical, Fix Committed, static [01:25] Malone bug 46589 in launchpad "Poll crashes if you select default poll option" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/46589 - Assigned to Elliot Murphy (emurphy) [01:25] static, did this need a cherrypick? If so, did you ask for one? [01:25]