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| tepsipakki | dapper d-i seems to use 2.6.15-26 while there is -27 available | 03:00 |
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| tepsipakki | s/use/have/ | 03:00 |
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| secureboot | anyone know how I can get a minimal package list of things I need for the installer to run and finish correctly? The dependancies listed by aptitude show ubuntu-minimal aren't cutting it | 04:00 |
| secureboot | the dependancies of those dependancies aren't met | 04:00 |
| secureboot | and just the packages needed by debian-installer in its Packages file aren't enough either | 04:01 |
| tepsipakki | install ubuntu-standard | 04:12 |
| tepsipakki | d-i pkgsel/include string ubuntu-standard foo1 foo2... | 04:13 |
| secureboot | tepsipakki: uh - that doesn't tell me what i need on the CD, does it? | 04:39 |
| secureboot | i've already got tasksel tasksel/first multiselect ubuntu-minimal | 04:40 |
| tepsipakki | what are you doing? | 04:47 |
| tepsipakki | or trying to do | 04:48 |
| secureboot | make an installer CD with as few packages as possible | 04:50 |
| secureboot | my goal is a fully automated install in as short a time period as possible | 04:51 |
| secureboot | so i've preseeded nearly everything, but the package validation is slow | 04:51 |
| tepsipakki | you have lots of space in the CD right? | 04:52 |
| secureboot | sure - but it takes a long time to retrieve, unpack, and validate all the unnecessary packages | 04:52 |
| tepsipakki | ..on the cd .. | 04:52 |
| secureboot | and i'm only installed ubuntu-minimal | 04:53 |
| tepsipakki | and that's too much? | 04:53 |
| secureboot | or rather, that's the only thing I want installed (plus 1-2 custom packages I make) when the install is done | 04:53 |
| secureboot | no - i just dont' want all the extra packages on the CD that I'm not using - mostly for speed of the install | 04:53 |
| secureboot | extra packages, even if I dont' use them, slow down the install considerably | 04:53 |
| tepsipakki | I see | 04:53 |
| tepsipakki | and the link you got yesterday doesn't show you the info you need? | 04:54 |
| tepsipakki | (=dependancies) | 04:54 |
| tepsipakki | http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/germinate-output/feisty/minimal | 04:55 |
| secureboot | tepsipakki: i didn't see it yesterday - oops. | 04:56 |
| tepsipakki | :) | 04:57 |
| secureboot | that's awesome - thanks | 04:58 |
| secureboot | i debootstraped a system, and got nearly the same results | 04:59 |
| tepsipakki | thank cjwatson | 04:59 |
| secureboot | but now i'm getting an unpacking error (repeated up to 5 times) that I dont' quite understand and am trying to track down | 04:59 |
| secureboot | i do have one question though - how do you pick "Erase entire disk" from partman automagically in a preseed? | 05:00 |
| secureboot | don't you have to know beforehand what the disk will be named? | 05:00 |
| tepsipakki | you mean what device it is? | 05:01 |
| secureboot | i'm not sure, actually - I just want to select the first option in the partman menu where "Erase entire disk" is an option | 05:02 |
| secureboot | i'm coming up on it now, so let me see exactly what it says | 05:02 |
| tepsipakki | see the preseeding documentation, it's all there | 05:02 |
| secureboot | tepsipakki: i've looked through that, and don't understand how to do this one step | 05:03 |
| secureboot | tepsipakki: the rest, i get, and works fine | 05:03 |
| secureboot | is there a way to do it without a recipe? since all i want to do is pick the erase entire disk option? | 05:04 |
| tepsipakki | you preseed it like "d-i partman-auto/disk string /dev/sda" | 05:05 |
| tepsipakki | oh | 05:05 |
| tepsipakki | don't know | 05:05 |
| tepsipakki | if you wan't it to be automatic, it needs to take the whole disk, I think | 05:05 |
| tepsipakki | -' | 05:05 |
| secureboot | great - how do i do that? | 05:11 |
| cjwatson | I think tepsipakki's preseed above ought to do it | 05:11 |
| secureboot | what if i don't know if it's sda or hda? | 05:11 |
| tepsipakki | which version of ubuntu? | 05:12 |
| secureboot | i want to just erase all of whatever disk is first | 05:12 |
| cjwatson | I'm pretty sure https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/preseed-contents.html has advice on this | 05:12 |
| secureboot | edgy | 05:12 |
| cjwatson | secureboot: the easiest way to do that is to use Kickstart; it's unfortunately a pain in the arse with plain preseeding at the moment | 05:12 |
| secureboot | i see how to select the first disk - but not how to subsequently select "Erase entire disk" | 05:12 |
| cjwatson | partman-auto/disk should be sufficient | 05:12 |
| tepsipakki | secureboot: ok, feisty is always /dev/sda, dapper used devfs-names so that was easy then as well | 05:13 |
| tepsipakki | at least I believe that libata will remain in use with feisty ;) | 05:14 |
| secureboot | i was using that before - perhaps there was another preseeding error invalidating that one. I've fixed all the errors, except in partman, so I'll try it again - i thought that just selected a disk for future questions - i didn't realize that it automatically chose to erase the entire thing | 05:14 |
| tepsipakki | well, its always "erase the whole disk" when preseeding, so it's natural for it to skip the question when it knows which disk to use | 05:15 |
| tepsipakki | I've toyed with the idea of automating dualboot setups, but thats just crack :) | 05:15 |
| cjwatson | I'm in a meeting; I'll get back to this once it's over | 05:18 |
| cjwatson | partman-auto/disk is a special magic thing that doesn't exactly correspond to a question asked in the normal UI | 05:18 |
| cjwatson | tepsipakki: feisty is not always /dev/sda | 05:18 |
| cjwatson | *some* drivers have moved from hd to sd | 05:19 |
| cjwatson | but e.g. if you use the standard vmware IDE device then that's still hda | 05:24 |
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| tepsipakki | cjwatson: duh | 05:50 |
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