=== mjeau [n=rot@c83-254-147-58.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-installer === avoine [n=avoine@modemcable068.14-82-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-installer === cjwatson [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-installer === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-135-240.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-installer === cr3 [n=marc@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-installer [03:00] dapper d-i seems to use 2.6.15-26 while there is -27 available [03:00] s/use/have/ === secureboot [n=lstclair@coriakin.cse.psu.edu] has joined #ubuntu-installer [04:00] anyone know how I can get a minimal package list of things I need for the installer to run and finish correctly? The dependancies listed by aptitude show ubuntu-minimal aren't cutting it [04:00] the dependancies of those dependancies aren't met [04:01] and just the packages needed by debian-installer in its Packages file aren't enough either [04:12] install ubuntu-standard [04:13] d-i pkgsel/include string ubuntu-standard foo1 foo2... [04:39] tepsipakki: uh - that doesn't tell me what i need on the CD, does it? [04:40] i've already got tasksel tasksel/first multiselect ubuntu-minimal [04:47] what are you doing? [04:48] or trying to do [04:50] make an installer CD with as few packages as possible [04:51] my goal is a fully automated install in as short a time period as possible [04:51] so i've preseeded nearly everything, but the package validation is slow [04:52] you have lots of space in the CD right? [04:52] sure - but it takes a long time to retrieve, unpack, and validate all the unnecessary packages [04:52] ..on the cd .. [04:53] and i'm only installed ubuntu-minimal [04:53] and that's too much? [04:53] or rather, that's the only thing I want installed (plus 1-2 custom packages I make) when the install is done [04:53] no - i just dont' want all the extra packages on the CD that I'm not using - mostly for speed of the install [04:53] extra packages, even if I dont' use them, slow down the install considerably [04:53] I see [04:54] and the link you got yesterday doesn't show you the info you need? [04:54] (=dependancies) [04:55] http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/germinate-output/feisty/minimal [04:56] tepsipakki: i didn't see it yesterday - oops. [04:57] :) [04:58] that's awesome - thanks [04:59] i debootstraped a system, and got nearly the same results [04:59] thank cjwatson [04:59] but now i'm getting an unpacking error (repeated up to 5 times) that I dont' quite understand and am trying to track down [05:00] i do have one question though - how do you pick "Erase entire disk" from partman automagically in a preseed? [05:00] don't you have to know beforehand what the disk will be named? [05:01] you mean what device it is? [05:02] i'm not sure, actually - I just want to select the first option in the partman menu where "Erase entire disk" is an option [05:02] i'm coming up on it now, so let me see exactly what it says [05:02] see the preseeding documentation, it's all there [05:03] tepsipakki: i've looked through that, and don't understand how to do this one step [05:03] tepsipakki: the rest, i get, and works fine [05:04] is there a way to do it without a recipe? since all i want to do is pick the erase entire disk option? [05:05] you preseed it like "d-i partman-auto/disk string /dev/sda" [05:05] oh [05:05] don't know [05:05] if you wan't it to be automatic, it needs to take the whole disk, I think [05:05] -' [05:11] great - how do i do that? [05:11] I think tepsipakki's preseed above ought to do it [05:11] what if i don't know if it's sda or hda? [05:12] which version of ubuntu? [05:12] i want to just erase all of whatever disk is first [05:12] I'm pretty sure https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/preseed-contents.html has advice on this [05:12] edgy [05:12] secureboot: the easiest way to do that is to use Kickstart; it's unfortunately a pain in the arse with plain preseeding at the moment [05:12] i see how to select the first disk - but not how to subsequently select "Erase entire disk" [05:12] partman-auto/disk should be sufficient [05:13] secureboot: ok, feisty is always /dev/sda, dapper used devfs-names so that was easy then as well [05:14] at least I believe that libata will remain in use with feisty ;) [05:14] i was using that before - perhaps there was another preseeding error invalidating that one. I've fixed all the errors, except in partman, so I'll try it again - i thought that just selected a disk for future questions - i didn't realize that it automatically chose to erase the entire thing [05:15] well, its always "erase the whole disk" when preseeding, so it's natural for it to skip the question when it knows which disk to use [05:15] I've toyed with the idea of automating dualboot setups, but thats just crack :) [05:18] I'm in a meeting; I'll get back to this once it's over [05:18] partman-auto/disk is a special magic thing that doesn't exactly correspond to a question asked in the normal UI [05:18] tepsipakki: feisty is not always /dev/sda [05:19] *some* drivers have moved from hd to sd [05:24] but e.g. if you use the standard vmware IDE device then that's still hda === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-installer [05:50] cjwatson: duh === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-135-240.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-installer === stgraber_ [n=stgraber@client80-83-51-125.abo.net2000.ch] has joined #ubuntu-installer