[03:00] <tepsipakki> dapper d-i seems to use 2.6.15-26 while there is -27 available
[03:00] <tepsipakki> s/use/have/
[04:00] <secureboot> anyone know how I can get a minimal package list of things I need for the installer to run and finish correctly?  The dependancies listed by aptitude show ubuntu-minimal aren't cutting it
[04:00] <secureboot> the dependancies of those dependancies aren't met
[04:01] <secureboot> and just the packages needed by debian-installer in its Packages file aren't enough either
[04:12] <tepsipakki> install ubuntu-standard
[04:13] <tepsipakki> d-i pkgsel/include string ubuntu-standard foo1 foo2...
[04:39] <secureboot> tepsipakki: uh - that doesn't tell me what i need on the CD, does it?
[04:40] <secureboot> i've already got tasksel tasksel/first multiselect ubuntu-minimal
[04:47] <tepsipakki> what are you doing?
[04:48] <tepsipakki> or trying to do
[04:50] <secureboot> make an installer CD with as few packages as possible
[04:51] <secureboot> my goal is a fully automated install in as short a time period as possible
[04:51] <secureboot> so i've preseeded nearly everything, but the package validation is slow
[04:52] <tepsipakki> you have lots of space in the CD right?
[04:52] <secureboot> sure - but it takes a long time to retrieve, unpack, and validate all the unnecessary packages
[04:52] <tepsipakki> ..on the cd ..
[04:53] <secureboot> and i'm only installed ubuntu-minimal
[04:53] <tepsipakki> and that's too much?
[04:53] <secureboot> or rather, that's the only thing I want installed (plus 1-2 custom packages I make) when the install is done
[04:53] <secureboot> no - i just dont' want all the extra packages on the CD that I'm not using - mostly for speed of the install
[04:53] <secureboot> extra packages, even if I dont' use them, slow down the install considerably
[04:53] <tepsipakki> I see
[04:54] <tepsipakki> and the link you got yesterday doesn't show you the info you need?
[04:54] <tepsipakki> (=dependancies)
[04:55] <tepsipakki> http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/germinate-output/feisty/minimal
[04:56] <secureboot> tepsipakki: i didn't see it yesterday - oops.
[04:57] <tepsipakki> :)
[04:58] <secureboot> that's awesome - thanks
[04:59] <secureboot> i debootstraped a system, and got nearly the same results
[04:59] <tepsipakki> thank cjwatson
[04:59] <secureboot> but now i'm getting an unpacking error (repeated up to 5 times) that I dont' quite understand and am trying to track down
[05:00] <secureboot> i do have one question though - how do you pick "Erase entire disk" from partman automagically in a preseed?
[05:00] <secureboot> don't you have to know beforehand what the disk will be named?
[05:01] <tepsipakki> you mean what device it is?
[05:02] <secureboot> i'm not sure, actually - I just want to select the first option in the partman menu where "Erase entire disk" is an option
[05:02] <secureboot> i'm coming up on it now, so let me see exactly what it says
[05:02] <tepsipakki> see the preseeding documentation, it's all there
[05:03] <secureboot> tepsipakki: i've looked through that, and don't understand how to do this one step
[05:03] <secureboot> tepsipakki: the rest, i get, and works fine
[05:04] <secureboot> is there a way to do it without a recipe?  since all i want to do is pick the erase entire disk option?
[05:05] <tepsipakki> you preseed it like "d-i partman-auto/disk string /dev/sda"
[05:05] <tepsipakki> oh
[05:05] <tepsipakki> don't know
[05:05] <tepsipakki> if you wan't it to be automatic, it needs to take the whole disk, I think
[05:05] <tepsipakki> -'
[05:11] <secureboot> great - how do i do that?
[05:11] <cjwatson> I think tepsipakki's preseed above ought to do it
[05:11] <secureboot> what if i don't know if it's sda or hda?
[05:12] <tepsipakki> which version of ubuntu?
[05:12] <secureboot> i want to just erase all of whatever disk is first
[05:12] <cjwatson> I'm pretty sure https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/preseed-contents.html has advice on this
[05:12] <secureboot> edgy
[05:12] <cjwatson> secureboot: the easiest way to do that is to use Kickstart; it's unfortunately a pain in the arse with plain preseeding at the moment
[05:12] <secureboot> i see how to select the first disk - but not how to subsequently select "Erase entire disk"
[05:12] <cjwatson> partman-auto/disk should be sufficient
[05:13] <tepsipakki> secureboot: ok, feisty is always /dev/sda, dapper used devfs-names so that was easy then as well
[05:14] <tepsipakki> at least I believe that libata will remain in use with feisty ;)
[05:14] <secureboot> i was using that before - perhaps there was another preseeding error invalidating that one.  I've fixed all the errors, except in partman, so I'll try it again - i thought that just selected a disk for future questions - i didn't realize that it automatically chose to erase the entire thing
[05:15] <tepsipakki> well, its always "erase the whole disk" when preseeding, so it's natural for it to skip the question when it knows which disk to use
[05:15] <tepsipakki> I've toyed with the idea of automating dualboot setups, but thats just crack :)
[05:18] <cjwatson> I'm in a meeting; I'll get back to this once it's over
[05:18] <cjwatson> partman-auto/disk is a special magic thing that doesn't exactly correspond to a question asked in the normal UI
[05:18] <cjwatson> tepsipakki: feisty is not always /dev/sda
[05:19] <cjwatson> *some* drivers have moved from hd to sd
[05:24] <cjwatson> but e.g. if you use the standard vmware IDE device then that's still hda
[05:50] <tepsipakki> cjwatson: duh