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rjiansomerville32 u thee?03:39
rjianu there?03:39
somerville32Yes.03:39
rjiani just received the   ubuntu-marketing Digest, Vol 15, Issue 13  03:39
rjianin my indox.03:40
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nick1sweet04:01
somerville32Thats not UWN04:02
somerville32Thats the mailing list04:02
nick1ah :/ yeah04:03
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nick1lol04:31
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somerville32BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to 100% <-- UWN 2610:21
somerville32lol10:21
poningrusomerville32: ping10:44
poningruare we working on herd2?10:44
somerville32Its ok the wiki10:44
somerville32*on10:44
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somerville32Needs a *lot* of work10:44
BHSPitMonkeywhat's on who's wiki10:46
poningruBHSPitLappy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn/Herd210:46
poningruits on THE wiki10:46
poningrusomerville32: we should probably throw up a todo page10:46
BHSPitMonkeycrazy talk.10:46
poningruwhats there left to be done?10:47
somerville32ponigru: Umm... a lot, lol10:47
somerville32Herd 2 is crap right now10:47
poningruelkbuntu: can you help with screenshot magic?10:47
poningrusomerville32: hehe no I meant for that page10:47
elkbuntuponingru, nope, busy :(10:47
poningrunot for the os10:47
somerville32poningru, me too :P10:47
somerville32elkbuntu, become unbusy then :P10:47
poningruaww10:47
poningruthats meant10:47
poningrumean*10:47
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elkbuntusomerville32, that will be after LCA has happened, until then, sorry10:48
=== somerville32 clones elkbuntu.
poningruI will put up the screenshots... if someone can shadowify it10:48
=== poningru installs feisty on his 2 gig partition
poningrusomerville32: can you put together a todo list?10:50
poningruthat would greatly help out10:50
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somerville32sure10:50
poningruthanks man10:50
poningrubambi???10:50
somerville32Wait...10:50
somerville32you want me to make it? :P10:50
poningrusomerville32: yes sir10:50
somerville32lol10:50
somerville32I don't even run Ubuntu10:50
somerville32I'm an Xubuntu guy10:50
poningruok frackin a10:51
poningruI'll go install it and put this together10:51
somerville32Awesome :)10:51
somerville32Thanks a bunch!10:51
poningru:(10:51
poningruxipietotec: you know being high doesnt give you the right to molest small animated animals ;P10:52
xipietotecponingru: why not? furries do it all the time10:52
poningrueew10:52
xipietotecand I have said nothing about being high! =P10:52
poningruwell you know... I just assumed10:53
poningruisnt that your natural state?10:53
xipietotec=P I'm not high everyday nor all the time10:54
poningrucould have fooled me10:54
poningru:p10:54
xipietotecmaybe naturally goofy, but not actually "on something" all the time =P10:54
=== xipietotec despite the fact that I am now
poningrurofl10:55
poningruoh did you see mako blogged about us?10:55
xipietotecmako?10:55
poningrumako hill10:55
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xipietotecwho is this person?10:56
xipietoteclinky10:56
poningru...10:57
poningruMAKO HILL man10:57
poningruhe stays with liz10:57
poningruwell same apt10:58
poningrucomplex10:58
poningruxipietotec: how long have you been in freeculture?10:58
xipietotecnot lonk10:58
xipietoteclong10:58
poningruoh hehe10:58
poningruok10:58
poningruwell mako hill is a general freecultury guy10:59
poningruubotu: mako hill10:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mako hill - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:59
xipietotecand he blogged about freeculture or just us in particular?10:59
poningruyes freeculture.org10:59
poningruhttp://mako.cc/11:01
xipietotec....I read it...he um....wrote a big long post that came to no conclusion, and left me confused by what me meant about differences in definition and what kind of definition he supported11:02
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xipietotecjenda: I don't know alot of people! =(11:04
=== xipietotec learned who Lessig was a few months ago
poningruxipietotec: hehe11:04
poningrudid you see the 23c3 speech11:04
=== xipietotec barely knows who mark shuttleworth is =P
xipietotecponingru: link?11:04
jendaWho is Lessig? :)11:04
poningrudid you see how lessig made couple of jabs at mako11:04
poningruhttp://www.lessig.org/blog/11:05
poningruhold on looking for that speech11:06
xipietotecfound it11:06
poningrujenda: founder of cc11:06
poningrusits on eff board11:06
jendaponingru: Just kidding :)11:06
poningruwrote free culture the book11:06
poningruoh hehe11:06
poningru:p11:06
poningruanyone know where newz2000 is?11:09
poningruI have been looking for him forever11:09
poningrusent like a gajillion emails no response11:09
somerville32jenda: ping11:17
somerville32jenda: You're a forum admin or moderator?11:17
jendayes11:17
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poningrusomerville32: whats the gobby addy?11:57
somerville32ubuntu.juliux.de11:58
somerville32port +111:58
poningruuh...11:58
poningruport 1?11:58
juliux562311:59
poningrucool thanks11:59
poningruuh... it says host not found12:08
somerville32I most likely mistyped12:08
poningrujuliux?12:08
juliuxhm no ubuntu.juliux.de is right12:09
poningruare you sure thats the port?12:09
juliuxi will check it12:09
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juliuxcan you ping ubuntu.juliux.de?12:09
poningruyes12:09
poningrurotherbaum.ju.de12:10
juliuxsure12:10
juliuxthe port is 6523 sorry12:10
poningruah12:10
poningrupassword?12:10
poningrujuliux?12:11
juliuxi msged you the password12:11
juliuxjenda, ping12:14
jendajuliux: pong12:14
juliuxjenda, i have response for the stickers;)12:15
juliuxjenda, can you make me a good price for 1000 ubuntu, 1000 kubuntu and 500 edubuntu powered by stickers?12:15
jendajuliux: yep12:16
jendalemme think...12:16
jendajenda: I think I can fit into 250 comfortably.12:17
jendaerr... juliux :)12:17
jendais that sufficient?12:17
juliuxthas sound realy good12:17
jendagreat.12:17
jendaDo I get another shirt for that?12:18
jenda:)12:18
jendajust kidding.12:18
juliuxwe will see12:18
juliuxso we will say 270 incl ship it to germany right?12:18
jendaplenty good enough.12:20
jendajuliux: I'll check with the printer.12:21
jendaDon't consider it final till then :)12:21
juliuxjenda, pls check it12:21
jendawriting the email right now.12:21
juliuxjenda, if i have the real price i will give it to the rest12:21
jendaok12:22
jendajuliux: I think I'll have the quote later today, or tomorrow.12:26
juliuxthats fine12:26
jendaI'm ordering a total of about 4000 stickers.12:29
jenda1000 cost me 78 previously - so this should cost about 314, or less.12:30
juliuxperhaps we will order more then the 2500, it depends on the price;)12:30
jendaok :)12:31
jendathat'll further change the price ;)12:31
juliuxlol12:31
juliuxor less;)12:31
jendadon't worry - it'll make it better, not worse.12:31
jendaIt won't be more than 250, I think I can guarantee that.12:32
juliuxcool12:32
jendaand - anything that remains extra will join the other money I have, and will slowly get lost on quiz prizes, or until I find a good use for it :)12:32
jenda(flyers were one cash-losing thing I was considering)12:33
juliuxjenda, do you know that with conrad linde is? i wrote him two e-mails but i get no response12:33
jendanope, sorry no idea.12:33
juliuxjenda, we can sponsore some dvds 12:33
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jendaBut of course, it's welcome ;)12:34
jendafor the quiz, for example, definitely.12:34
jendaI'm sure posters will get boring after a while :)12:34
jendaBTW - how did you like them?12:34
juliuxthere are great12:34
juliuxbut a little bit so small12:34
jendahmm :)12:38
jendaI'm planning the big ones, you know that :)12:38
juliuxyes i know12:38
jendaIt's tough, though - I'm not sure if there'll be enough demand.12:39
jendaI'll wait till I make a bit more money as a reserve, then I'll do it.12:39
juliuxgreat12:39
juliuxjenda, are you on the next uds?12:45
jendajuliux: I intend to.12:45
jendaas long as it's afte March 5 :)12:46
juliuxjenda, cool perhaps we will meet there, i will try to get a sponsorship;)12:47
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somerville32I'm going to try and get sponsorship too12:47
jendaBut if I can't I think I'll do my best to pay for it myself.12:47
somerville32jenda: You must be able to pay for it with all the revenue from the posters? ;] 12:48
jendahaha :)12:48
jendaI wouldn't use that money for it.12:48
jendaAnd - it would be at most 1/4 :)12:48
somerville32hehe12:48
juliuxjenda, the flight to spain is not the problem for me, but the rest12:49
jendaindeed.12:49
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jendahehe12:53
juliuxwb poningru 12:53
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jendajuliux: 1.5  the average pay in CZ ;)12:53
poningruhey12:53
poningruthe install crapped out on me12:53
poningruso no screenshots from me :(12:53
juliuxjenda, but not in  or?12:53
jendawait, I'm wrong, kill me - it's about 0.8  the average pay.12:54
juliuxin  ?12:54
jendawell, converted.12:54
juliuxjenda, ah12:54
jendaIt's 14000 CZK, and the average pay is some 20000.12:54
juliuxjenda, but you have to pay less for living in CZ12:55
jendaso, 0.7 times, even.12:55
jendathat's very true.12:55
jendaIn fact, we are allowed to live for free ;)12:55
jenda(just kidding you)12:55
juliuxi know12:55
juliuxponingru, do you have a link to the herd2 iso?12:55
juliuxi found only herd1 images12:56
poningrucdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live12:56
poningruwell herd2 hasnt been released yet so...12:56
juliuxah 12:56
juliuxi will wait for the herd2 iso;)12:56
poningrumeh wont be much different from whats on daily-live12:57
poningrushower12:58
jendahttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1997631&postcount=301:00
jendajuliux: ^01:00
juliuxjenda, ?01:01
jendaherd 201:01
juliuxah i only see one post and not the thread01:02
poningrujenda: need help writing the release candidate01:02
jendaponingru: I'm sorry, can't.01:03
jendajuliux: aha, sorry, click in the top rigth corner.01:03
jendawhere it says thread: blabla01:03
jenda:)01:03
juliuxi found it;)01:03
jendajuliux: pasted the wrong link.01:04
jenda:)01:04
poningrulink me01:04
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jendaponingru: I've only got some 4 days to learn a semester's worth of roman law.01:04
jenda:/01:04
jendaI'll bbl01:04
juliuxjenda, good luck01:04
poningrugl01:05
poningruhttp://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=507159 <-- gavin that one01:05
poningruerr wrong channel01:05
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somerville32poningru, How Herd 2 going?02:28
poningrucoming along02:29
poningruwatch the progress in gobby02:29
poningrudoing it all there02:29
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jendasomerville32: who wrote "Kubuntu Developer's Meeting" in #27?02:49
somerville32Nixternal02:49
somerville32Why?02:49
jendamhb wanted to know.02:50
somerville32Who is mhb?02:54
poningrucan someone do some spell checking?02:54
poningruI wished we could have done kubuntu herd2 as well :(02:54
jendasomerville32: a czech kubuntu guy02:54
somerville32poningru, I can02:54
poningruthanks02:55
somerville32poningru, If you copy it back to the wiki, I'll use Firefox's built in spell checker02:55
poningruI did02:55
poningruoh hehe I didnt think of that02:55
poningrubut yeah thanks02:55
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somerville32done02:58
poningrusweet03:00
somerville32Borrow some graphics from previous flights and flocks and packs or what ever they've been03:00
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lotusleafAdmiral04:18
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WaterSevenUbsomerville32, Hi. To produce the Feisty changes section in the UWN you've used some script? I was wondering what possibilities there are to make easier the process of translation of this section. There are some program descriptions translated so... Maybe you can put it somewhere?04:43
WaterSevenUb(the script)04:43
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WaterSevenUbsomerville32, I'll ping you later.. I've to leave now...05:12
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juliuxevening08:30
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somerville32evening08:32
WaterSevenUbsomerville32, hi....08:32
somerville32hi...08:32
somerville32lol08:32
somerville32;] 08:32
WaterSevenUb:)08:32
WaterSevenUbsomerville32, have you seen my question in the backlog?:)08:33
somerville32nope08:33
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somerville32*crashed08:33
WaterSevenUb04:43WaterSevenUbsomerville32, Hi. To produce the Feisty changes section in the UWN you've used some script? I was wondering what possibilities there are to make easier the process of translation of this section. There are some program descriptions translated so... Maybe you can put it somewhere?08:34
WaterSevenUb04:43WaterSevenUb(the script)08:34
somerville32I'm not sure how we would do that08:35
somerville32I pull the data from the e-mail08:35
somerville32And the e-mail is in English08:35
WaterSevenUbWhat e-mail? 08:36
WaterSevenUbfeisty-changes?08:36
somerville32Yup08:38
WaterSevenUbsomerville32, do you select all of them or just a few of the uploads?08:39
somerville32All of them08:39
somerville32and then we filter them out so only new releases get listed08:39
WaterSevenUbsomerville32, by new releases you mean completely new programs uploaded, or a new version of a program?08:41
somerville32new version of the program08:41
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WaterSevenUbsomerville32, the only way, since the spec of translation of long program descriptions is not implemented, is to use the short description of the .desktop entries of each program... :-/ it's the only thing mostly translated. Sometimes they are enough, most of the times, they aren't.08:53
somerville32Unfortunately thats impossible08:53
somerville32I would have to download each individual package and extract the file to get the info08:54
somerville32It simply isn't worth it08:54
WaterSevenUbsomerville32, no no, I'm not asking you :-) I was wondering.... with a full rosetta tgz .... 08:54
somerville32Ah, maybe08:54
WaterSevenUbif it would be worthwile or not :)08:54
somerville32WaterSevenUb, I don't think it would be08:54
somerville32I can't very well display all the translations for each package we do08:55
somerville32That would be insane08:55
WaterSevenUbHum?:) I was thinking in: get the list of programs; generate their descriptions using rosetta tgz; translate the english changes only (not the program desc) mentioned in the original UWN....08:56
WaterSevenUbMuch easier probably...... use the translations of a bunch of UWN and create a list of the programs and their description, translated... to be easily reused.08:57
somerville32They are written manually each time08:57
WaterSevenUbyou mean, the changes?08:57
WaterSevenUbbut you take the desc out of "debian/control"?08:58
somerville32Nope08:58
WaterSevenUbaah :)08:58
WaterSevenUboops.08:58
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bapoumbahello :)09:34
jendahello bapoumba :)09:35
jendawelcome to the channel.09:35
bapoumbahello jenda09:35
jendaI've gotta run away, atm, though.09:35
bapoumbafinally got some time to visit09:35
bapoumbaoki09:35
bapoumbasee you at some other time :)09:35
jendaI'll be back in 3009:36
jendaand briefly inbetween ):09:36
jenda*;)09:37
bapoumbaoki09:37
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bapoumba:-*)09:37
bapoumbathis one you mean ?09:37
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tsmithejenda! you don't welcome me to the channel!09:39
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jendatsmithe: because you come every day ;)09:48
tsmitheshush!09:49
jendaMind, no one greets me to the channel, because I never really come.09:50
somerville32jenda: Thats because you never really leave09:50
jendamhm :)09:50
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tsmithewe could have a bip party! and bring all our little bips!09:50
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somerville32I hardly leave09:51
somerville32lol09:51
somerville32I just don't sleep09:51
tsmithedont you use a bip?09:52
tsmithearent you coming to the bip party?!09:52
bapoumbasomerville32, is that you Cody ?09:57
somerville32Maybe09:57
bapoumba^^09:58
bapoumbawould Launchpad be lying ?09:59
somerville32;] 10:02
bapoumbapleased to meet you :)10:04
somerville32Please to meet you too :] 10:06
somerville32*pleased10:06
somerville32Gah, can't type today ;] 10:06
bapoumbano problem ;) I wont feel bad then10:07
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tsmithehi meatballhat10:07
meatballhathowdy!10:08
tsmithehow's all?10:08
meatballhatwork :P .... blech10:08
meatballhatanything exciting happening in this channel today :)10:08
jendaoi, meatballhat :)10:08
meatballhat?10:08
meatballhatjenda: oi! :D10:09
jendaumm... /me scans logs...10:09
tsmithesee! i don't even get an oi...10:09
meatballhattsmithe: oi :D hehe10:09
jendameatballhat: yeah, juliux ordered about 3000 stickers earlier today...10:09
tsmitheyay!10:09
jendaand bapoumba payed us a visit...10:09
bapoumba^^10:09
meatballhatgood good!  I've been following her email thread10:09
meatballhatbapoumba: hallooo!10:09
bapoumbahello meatballhat 10:09
bapoumbawhich one ?10:10
meatballhathm.... about the, er ... /me looks at email10:10
meatballhatsorry ... distracted :) ... I'm actually still at work10:10
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bapoumba-c10:11
jenda-x ;)10:13
jenda+t10:13
bapoumbaconnection 10:13
bapoumbahuess so :/10:13
jenda10:13
bapoumbaguess so10:14
meatballhatI'll be back in a few .... someone just yelled for a favor :P10:14
bapoumbaho we finished translating UWN it was 1:00 am last night, I am so tired ;)10:14
jendahehe :)10:14
bapoumbawe could not get to the sobby server a couple weeks ago10:16
bapoumbaon of us set up a server at home10:16
bapoumbaso we are still using gobby10:16
meatballhatbapoumba: now I remember!10:21
meatballhatabout the ubuntu-women meeting ... 10:22
bapoumbaok10:22
meatballhatI'm very interested in the development of this10:22
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bapoumbait's being held right now10:22
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jendanot _that_ interested, it seems :)11:41
bapoumbaI'm going to sleep ;)11:42
bapoumbagood night everyone :)11:42
jendaSo am I.11:43
jendagood night.11:43
tsmithenight jenda11:45
=== tsmithe should go to bed soon

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