[03:39] <rjian> somerville32 u thee?
[03:39] <rjian> u there?
[03:39] <somerville32> Yes.
[03:39] <rjian> i just received the   ubuntu-marketing Digest, Vol 15, Issue 13  
[03:40] <rjian> in my indox.
[04:01] <nick1> sweet
[04:02] <somerville32> Thats not UWN
[04:02] <somerville32> Thats the mailing list
[04:03] <nick1> ah :/ yeah
[04:31] <nick1> lol
[10:21] <somerville32> BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to 100% <-- UWN 26
[10:21] <somerville32> lol
[10:44] <poningru> somerville32: ping
[10:44] <poningru> are we working on herd2?
[10:44] <somerville32> Its ok the wiki
[10:44] <somerville32> *on
[10:44] <somerville32> Needs a *lot* of work
[10:46] <BHSPitMonkey> what's on who's wiki
[10:46] <poningru> BHSPitLappy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn/Herd2
[10:46] <poningru> its on THE wiki
[10:46] <poningru> somerville32: we should probably throw up a todo page
[10:46] <BHSPitMonkey> crazy talk.
[10:47] <poningru> whats there left to be done?
[10:47] <somerville32> ponigru: Umm... a lot, lol
[10:47] <somerville32> Herd 2 is crap right now
[10:47] <poningru> elkbuntu: can you help with screenshot magic?
[10:47] <poningru> somerville32: hehe no I meant for that page
[10:47] <elkbuntu> poningru, nope, busy :(
[10:47] <poningru> not for the os
[10:47] <somerville32> poningru, me too :P
[10:47] <somerville32> elkbuntu, become unbusy then :P
[10:47] <poningru> aww
[10:47] <poningru> thats meant
[10:47] <poningru> mean*
[10:48] <elkbuntu> somerville32, that will be after LCA has happened, until then, sorry
[10:48] <poningru> I will put up the screenshots... if someone can shadowify it
[10:50] <poningru> somerville32: can you put together a todo list?
[10:50] <poningru> that would greatly help out
[10:50] <somerville32> sure
[10:50] <poningru> thanks man
[10:50] <poningru> bambi???
[10:50] <somerville32> Wait...
[10:50] <somerville32> you want me to make it? :P
[10:50] <poningru> somerville32: yes sir
[10:50] <somerville32> lol
[10:50] <somerville32> I don't even run Ubuntu
[10:50] <somerville32> I'm an Xubuntu guy
[10:51] <poningru> ok frackin a
[10:51] <poningru> I'll go install it and put this together
[10:51] <somerville32> Awesome :)
[10:51] <somerville32> Thanks a bunch!
[10:51] <poningru> :(
[10:52] <poningru> xipietotec: you know being high doesnt give you the right to molest small animated animals ;P
[10:52] <xipietotec> poningru: why not? furries do it all the time
[10:52] <poningru> eew
[10:52] <xipietotec> and I have said nothing about being high! =P
[10:53] <poningru> well you know... I just assumed
[10:53] <poningru> isnt that your natural state?
[10:54] <xipietotec> =P I'm not high everyday nor all the time
[10:54] <poningru> could have fooled me
[10:54] <poningru> :p
[10:54] <xipietotec> maybe naturally goofy, but not actually "on something" all the time =P
[10:55] <poningru> rofl
[10:55] <poningru> oh did you see mako blogged about us?
[10:55] <xipietotec> mako?
[10:55] <poningru> mako hill
[10:56] <xipietotec> who is this person?
[10:56] <xipietotec> linky
[10:57] <poningru> ...
[10:57] <poningru> MAKO HILL man
[10:57] <poningru> he stays with liz
[10:58] <poningru> well same apt
[10:58] <poningru> complex
[10:58] <poningru> xipietotec: how long have you been in freeculture?
[10:58] <xipietotec> not lonk
[10:58] <xipietotec> long
[10:58] <poningru> oh hehe
[10:58] <poningru> ok
[10:59] <poningru> well mako hill is a general freecultury guy
[10:59] <poningru> ubotu: mako hill
[10:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mako hill - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:59] <xipietotec> and he blogged about freeculture or just us in particular?
[10:59] <poningru> yes freeculture.org
[11:01] <poningru> http://mako.cc/
[11:02] <xipietotec> ....I read it...he um....wrote a big long post that came to no conclusion, and left me confused by what me meant about differences in definition and what kind of definition he supported
[11:04] <xipietotec> jenda: I don't know alot of people! =(
[11:04] <poningru> xipietotec: hehe
[11:04] <poningru> did you see the 23c3 speech
[11:04] <xipietotec> poningru: link?
[11:04] <jenda> Who is Lessig? :)
[11:04] <poningru> did you see how lessig made couple of jabs at mako
[11:05] <poningru> http://www.lessig.org/blog/
[11:06] <poningru> hold on looking for that speech
[11:06] <xipietotec> found it
[11:06] <poningru> jenda: founder of cc
[11:06] <poningru> sits on eff board
[11:06] <jenda> poningru: Just kidding :)
[11:06] <poningru> wrote free culture the book
[11:06] <poningru> oh hehe
[11:06] <poningru> :p
[11:09] <poningru> anyone know where newz2000 is?
[11:09] <poningru> I have been looking for him forever
[11:09] <poningru> sent like a gajillion emails no response
[11:17] <somerville32> jenda: ping
[11:17] <somerville32> jenda: You're a forum admin or moderator?
[11:17] <jenda> yes
[11:57] <poningru> somerville32: whats the gobby addy?
[11:58] <somerville32> ubuntu.juliux.de
[11:58] <somerville32> port +1
[11:58] <poningru> uh...
[11:58] <poningru> port 1?
[11:59] <juliux> 5623
[11:59] <poningru> cool thanks
[12:08] <poningru> uh... it says host not found
[12:08] <somerville32> I most likely mistyped
[12:08] <poningru> juliux?
[12:09] <juliux> hm no ubuntu.juliux.de is right
[12:09] <poningru> are you sure thats the port?
[12:09] <juliux> i will check it
[12:09] <juliux> can you ping ubuntu.juliux.de?
[12:09] <poningru> yes
[12:10] <poningru> rotherbaum.ju.de
[12:10] <juliux> sure
[12:10] <juliux> the port is 6523 sorry
[12:10] <poningru> ah
[12:10] <poningru> password?
[12:11] <poningru> juliux?
[12:11] <juliux> i msged you the password
[12:14] <juliux> jenda, ping
[12:14] <jenda> juliux: pong
[12:15] <juliux> jenda, i have response for the stickers;)
[12:15] <juliux> jenda, can you make me a good price for 1000 ubuntu, 1000 kubuntu and 500 edubuntu powered by stickers?
[12:16] <jenda> juliux: yep
[12:16] <jenda> lemme think...
[12:17] <jenda> jenda: I think I can fit into 250 comfortably.
[12:17] <jenda> err... juliux :)
[12:17] <jenda> is that sufficient?
[12:17] <juliux> thas sound realy good
[12:17] <jenda> great.
[12:18] <jenda> Do I get another shirt for that?
[12:18] <jenda> :)
[12:18] <jenda> just kidding.
[12:18] <juliux> we will see
[12:18] <juliux> so we will say 270 incl ship it to germany right?
[12:20] <jenda> plenty good enough.
[12:21] <jenda> juliux: I'll check with the printer.
[12:21] <jenda> Don't consider it final till then :)
[12:21] <juliux> jenda, pls check it
[12:21] <jenda> writing the email right now.
[12:21] <juliux> jenda, if i have the real price i will give it to the rest
[12:22] <jenda> ok
[12:26] <jenda> juliux: I think I'll have the quote later today, or tomorrow.
[12:26] <juliux> thats fine
[12:29] <jenda> I'm ordering a total of about 4000 stickers.
[12:30] <jenda> 1000 cost me 78 previously - so this should cost about 314, or less.
[12:30] <juliux> perhaps we will order more then the 2500, it depends on the price;)
[12:31] <jenda> ok :)
[12:31] <jenda> that'll further change the price ;)
[12:31] <juliux> lol
[12:31] <juliux> or less;)
[12:31] <jenda> don't worry - it'll make it better, not worse.
[12:32] <jenda> It won't be more than 250, I think I can guarantee that.
[12:32] <juliux> cool
[12:32] <jenda> and - anything that remains extra will join the other money I have, and will slowly get lost on quiz prizes, or until I find a good use for it :)
[12:33] <jenda> (flyers were one cash-losing thing I was considering)
[12:33] <juliux> jenda, do you know that with conrad linde is? i wrote him two e-mails but i get no response
[12:33] <jenda> nope, sorry no idea.
[12:33] <juliux> jenda, we can sponsore some dvds 
[12:34] <jenda> But of course, it's welcome ;)
[12:34] <jenda> for the quiz, for example, definitely.
[12:34] <jenda> I'm sure posters will get boring after a while :)
[12:34] <jenda> BTW - how did you like them?
[12:34] <juliux> there are great
[12:34] <juliux> but a little bit so small
[12:38] <jenda> hmm :)
[12:38] <jenda> I'm planning the big ones, you know that :)
[12:38] <juliux> yes i know
[12:39] <jenda> It's tough, though - I'm not sure if there'll be enough demand.
[12:39] <jenda> I'll wait till I make a bit more money as a reserve, then I'll do it.
[12:39] <juliux> great
[12:45] <juliux> jenda, are you on the next uds?
[12:45] <jenda> juliux: I intend to.
[12:46] <jenda> as long as it's afte March 5 :)
[12:47] <juliux> jenda, cool perhaps we will meet there, i will try to get a sponsorship;)
[12:47] <somerville32> I'm going to try and get sponsorship too
[12:47] <jenda> But if I can't I think I'll do my best to pay for it myself.
[12:48] <somerville32> jenda: You must be able to pay for it with all the revenue from the posters? ;] 
[12:48] <jenda> haha :)
[12:48] <jenda> I wouldn't use that money for it.
[12:48] <jenda> And - it would be at most 1/4 :)
[12:48] <somerville32> hehe
[12:49] <juliux> jenda, the flight to spain is not the problem for me, but the rest
[12:49] <jenda> indeed.
[12:53] <jenda> hehe
[12:53] <juliux> wb poningru 
[12:53] <jenda> juliux: 1.5  the average pay in CZ ;)
[12:53] <poningru> hey
[12:53] <poningru> the install crapped out on me
[12:53] <poningru> so no screenshots from me :(
[12:53] <juliux> jenda, but not in  or?
[12:54] <jenda> wait, I'm wrong, kill me - it's about 0.8  the average pay.
[12:54] <juliux> in  ?
[12:54] <jenda> well, converted.
[12:54] <juliux> jenda, ah
[12:54] <jenda> It's 14000 CZK, and the average pay is some 20000.
[12:55] <juliux> jenda, but you have to pay less for living in CZ
[12:55] <jenda> so, 0.7 times, even.
[12:55] <jenda> that's very true.
[12:55] <jenda> In fact, we are allowed to live for free ;)
[12:55] <jenda> (just kidding you)
[12:55] <juliux> i know
[12:55] <juliux> poningru, do you have a link to the herd2 iso?
[12:56] <juliux> i found only herd1 images
[12:56] <poningru> cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live
[12:56] <poningru> well herd2 hasnt been released yet so...
[12:56] <juliux> ah 
[12:56] <juliux> i will wait for the herd2 iso;)
[12:57] <poningru> meh wont be much different from whats on daily-live
[12:58] <poningru> shower
[01:00] <jenda> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1997631&postcount=3
[01:00] <jenda> juliux: ^
[01:01] <juliux> jenda, ?
[01:01] <jenda> herd 2
[01:02] <juliux> ah i only see one post and not the thread
[01:02] <poningru> jenda: need help writing the release candidate
[01:03] <jenda> poningru: I'm sorry, can't.
[01:03] <jenda> juliux: aha, sorry, click in the top rigth corner.
[01:03] <jenda> where it says thread: blabla
[01:03] <jenda> :)
[01:03] <juliux> i found it;)
[01:04] <jenda> juliux: pasted the wrong link.
[01:04] <jenda> :)
[01:04] <poningru> link me
[01:04] <jenda> poningru: I've only got some 4 days to learn a semester's worth of roman law.
[01:04] <jenda> :/
[01:04] <jenda> I'll bbl
[01:04] <juliux> jenda, good luck
[01:05] <poningru> gl
[01:05] <poningru> http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=507159 <-- gavin that one
[01:05] <poningru> err wrong channel
[02:28] <somerville32> poningru, How Herd 2 going?
[02:29] <poningru> coming along
[02:29] <poningru> watch the progress in gobby
[02:29] <poningru> doing it all there
[02:49] <jenda> somerville32: who wrote "Kubuntu Developer's Meeting" in #27?
[02:49] <somerville32> Nixternal
[02:49] <somerville32> Why?
[02:50] <jenda> mhb wanted to know.
[02:54] <somerville32> Who is mhb?
[02:54] <poningru> can someone do some spell checking?
[02:54] <poningru> I wished we could have done kubuntu herd2 as well :(
[02:54] <jenda> somerville32: a czech kubuntu guy
[02:54] <somerville32> poningru, I can
[02:55] <poningru> thanks
[02:55] <somerville32> poningru, If you copy it back to the wiki, I'll use Firefox's built in spell checker
[02:55] <poningru> I did
[02:55] <poningru> oh hehe I didnt think of that
[02:55] <poningru> but yeah thanks
[02:58] <somerville32> done
[03:00] <poningru> sweet
[03:00] <somerville32> Borrow some graphics from previous flights and flocks and packs or what ever they've been
[04:18] <lotusleaf> Admiral
[04:43] <WaterSevenUb> somerville32, Hi. To produce the Feisty changes section in the UWN you've used some script? I was wondering what possibilities there are to make easier the process of translation of this section. There are some program descriptions translated so... Maybe you can put it somewhere?
[04:43] <WaterSevenUb> (the script)
[05:12] <WaterSevenUb> somerville32, I'll ping you later.. I've to leave now...
[08:30] <juliux> evening
[08:32] <somerville32> evening
[08:32] <WaterSevenUb> somerville32, hi....
[08:32] <somerville32> hi...
[08:32] <somerville32> lol
[08:32] <somerville32> ;] 
[08:32] <WaterSevenUb> :)
[08:33] <WaterSevenUb> somerville32, have you seen my question in the backlog?:)
[08:33] <somerville32> nope
[08:33] <somerville32> *crashed
[08:34] <WaterSevenUb> 04:43	WaterSevenUb	somerville32, Hi. To produce the Feisty changes section in the UWN you've used some script? I was wondering what possibilities there are to make easier the process of translation of this section. There are some program descriptions translated so... Maybe you can put it somewhere?
[08:34] <WaterSevenUb> 04:43	WaterSevenUb	(the script)
[08:35] <somerville32> I'm not sure how we would do that
[08:35] <somerville32> I pull the data from the e-mail
[08:35] <somerville32> And the e-mail is in English
[08:36] <WaterSevenUb> What e-mail? 
[08:36] <WaterSevenUb> feisty-changes?
[08:38] <somerville32> Yup
[08:39] <WaterSevenUb> somerville32, do you select all of them or just a few of the uploads?
[08:39] <somerville32> All of them
[08:39] <somerville32> and then we filter them out so only new releases get listed
[08:41] <WaterSevenUb> somerville32, by new releases you mean completely new programs uploaded, or a new version of a program?
[08:41] <somerville32> new version of the program
[08:53] <WaterSevenUb> somerville32, the only way, since the spec of translation of long program descriptions is not implemented, is to use the short description of the .desktop entries of each program... :-/ it's the only thing mostly translated. Sometimes they are enough, most of the times, they aren't.
[08:53] <somerville32> Unfortunately thats impossible
[08:54] <somerville32> I would have to download each individual package and extract the file to get the info
[08:54] <somerville32> It simply isn't worth it
[08:54] <WaterSevenUb> somerville32, no no, I'm not asking you :-) I was wondering.... with a full rosetta tgz .... 
[08:54] <somerville32> Ah, maybe
[08:54] <WaterSevenUb> if it would be worthwile or not :)
[08:54] <somerville32> WaterSevenUb, I don't think it would be
[08:55] <somerville32> I can't very well display all the translations for each package we do
[08:55] <somerville32> That would be insane
[08:56] <WaterSevenUb> Hum?:) I was thinking in: get the list of programs; generate their descriptions using rosetta tgz; translate the english changes only (not the program desc) mentioned in the original UWN....
[08:57] <WaterSevenUb> Much easier probably...... use the translations of a bunch of UWN and create a list of the programs and their description, translated... to be easily reused.
[08:57] <somerville32> They are written manually each time
[08:57] <WaterSevenUb> you mean, the changes?
[08:58] <WaterSevenUb> but you take the desc out of "debian/control"?
[08:58] <somerville32> Nope
[08:58] <WaterSevenUb> aah :)
[08:58] <WaterSevenUb> oops.
[09:34] <bapoumba> hello :)
[09:35] <jenda> hello bapoumba :)
[09:35] <jenda> welcome to the channel.
[09:35] <bapoumba> hello jenda
[09:35] <jenda> I've gotta run away, atm, though.
[09:35] <bapoumba> finally got some time to visit
[09:35] <bapoumba> oki
[09:35] <bapoumba> see you at some other time :)
[09:36] <jenda> I'll be back in 30
[09:36] <jenda> and briefly inbetween ):
[09:37] <jenda> *;)
[09:37] <bapoumba> oki
[09:37] <bapoumba> :-*)
[09:37] <bapoumba> this one you mean ?
[09:39] <tsmithe> jenda! you don't welcome me to the channel!
[09:48] <jenda> tsmithe: because you come every day ;)
[09:49] <tsmithe> shush!
[09:50] <jenda> Mind, no one greets me to the channel, because I never really come.
[09:50] <somerville32> jenda: Thats because you never really leave
[09:50] <jenda> mhm :)
[09:50] <tsmithe> we could have a bip party! and bring all our little bips!
[09:51] <somerville32> I hardly leave
[09:51] <somerville32> lol
[09:51] <somerville32> I just don't sleep
[09:52] <tsmithe> dont you use a bip?
[09:52] <tsmithe> arent you coming to the bip party?!
[09:57] <bapoumba> somerville32, is that you Cody ?
[09:57] <somerville32> Maybe
[09:58] <bapoumba> ^^
[09:59] <bapoumba> would Launchpad be lying ?
[10:02] <somerville32> ;] 
[10:04] <bapoumba> pleased to meet you :)
[10:06] <somerville32> Please to meet you too :] 
[10:06] <somerville32> *pleased
[10:06] <somerville32> Gah, can't type today ;] 
[10:07] <bapoumba> no problem ;) I wont feel bad then
[10:07] <tsmithe> hi meatballhat
[10:08] <meatballhat> howdy!
[10:08] <tsmithe> how's all?
[10:08] <meatballhat> work :P .... blech
[10:08] <meatballhat> anything exciting happening in this channel today :)
[10:08] <jenda> oi, meatballhat :)
[10:08] <meatballhat> ?
[10:09] <meatballhat> jenda: oi! :D
[10:09] <jenda> umm... /me scans logs...
[10:09] <tsmithe> see! i don't even get an oi...
[10:09] <meatballhat> tsmithe: oi :D hehe
[10:09] <jenda> meatballhat: yeah, juliux ordered about 3000 stickers earlier today...
[10:09] <tsmithe> yay!
[10:09] <jenda> and bapoumba payed us a visit...
[10:09] <bapoumba> ^^
[10:09] <meatballhat> good good!  I've been following her email thread
[10:09] <meatballhat> bapoumba: hallooo!
[10:09] <bapoumba> hello meatballhat 
[10:10] <bapoumba> which one ?
[10:10] <meatballhat> hm.... about the, er ... /me looks at email
[10:10] <meatballhat> sorry ... distracted :) ... I'm actually still at work
[10:11] <bapoumba> -c
[10:13] <jenda> -x ;)
[10:13] <jenda> +t
[10:13] <bapoumba> connection 
[10:13] <bapoumba> huess so :/
[10:13] <jenda> 
[10:14] <bapoumba> guess so
[10:14] <meatballhat> I'll be back in a few .... someone just yelled for a favor :P
[10:14] <bapoumba> ho we finished translating UWN it was 1:00 am last night, I am so tired ;)
[10:14] <jenda> hehe :)
[10:16] <bapoumba> we could not get to the sobby server a couple weeks ago
[10:16] <bapoumba> on of us set up a server at home
[10:16] <bapoumba> so we are still using gobby
[10:21] <meatballhat> bapoumba: now I remember!
[10:22] <meatballhat> about the ubuntu-women meeting ... 
[10:22] <bapoumba> ok
[10:22] <meatballhat> I'm very interested in the development of this
[10:22] <bapoumba> it's being held right now
[11:41] <jenda> not _that_ interested, it seems :)
[11:42] <bapoumba> I'm going to sleep ;)
[11:42] <bapoumba> good night everyone :)
[11:43] <jenda> So am I.
[11:43] <jenda> good night.
[11:45] <tsmithe> night jenda