[12:01] <^Ocean^> whats the command to run the gnome weather report Applet ?
[12:01] <soujiro> ucordes thnx
[12:01] <soujiro> kitche but when i search for ssh there is no ssh server only klient
[12:01] <soujiro> and i cant find apache
[12:01] <stefg> !openssh-server | soujiro
[12:01] <ubotu> openssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 212 kB, installed size 552 kB
[12:01] <ucordes> how can i run a script with root rights on startup?
[12:02] <stefg> !boot
[12:02] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[12:02] <selah> !codecs
[12:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:02] <Slart> ucordes: check the man page for sudo.. I think there's a way to specify a password
[12:02] <stefg> ucordes: the rc.local section is what you want to read
[12:03] <kitche> theflyingfool: any cd burning app canbe used to make an iso just choose image recorder instead of your cd burner
[12:03] <Slart> ucordes: oh.. you meant boot.. not when you login... sorry
[12:03] <ucordes> Slart: yea
[12:03] <doofy2> what do i need to have in /etc/fstab when i mount an ext3 partition in order to have write permissions?
[12:03] <_Sean> I am following this, but I can't "In the Software Preferences dialog that comes up, click the Add button." because there is no dialog that comes up
[12:03] <kitche> yep us.archive repo is slow probably due to bandwidth issues
[12:03] <kjaer> doofy2, rw under options, is default.
[12:03] <Slart> doofy2: nothing special.. as far as I know...use default
[12:03] <pluto> gml
[12:04] <doofy2> kjaer, hmm doesnt seem to be working. Let me try restarting
[12:04] <kitche> doofy2: you need to use umask if you want normal users to have write access
[12:04] <Slart> _Sean: where is that from? url?
[12:04] <kjaer> doofy2, Just remount
[12:04] <ninnghizidha> how is the blacklist-file for kernel-modules called?
[12:04] <_Sean> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[12:04] <Slart> ninnghizidha: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[12:04] <doofy2> kjaer, sudo mount -a ?
[12:04] <ninnghizidha> danke! :))
[12:04] <doofy2> kitche, what do you mean?
[12:04] <kjaer> mount /dev/hd? -o remount
[12:05] <ucordes> stefg: section of which document?
[12:05] <kjaer> Can you write to the disk as root ?
[12:05] <stefg> ucordes: you know bash? cat /etc/init.d/rc.local
[12:05] <theflyingfool> does anyone know the windows cmd to fix a master boot record
[12:06] <doofy2> kjaer, yes
[12:06] <mojojojo__> I've got a question... Does Ubunt somehow support automatically downloading source code and compiling package to optimize for particular computer? (like Gentoo does)
[12:06] <kjaer> theflyingfool, fixmbr
[12:06] <squeee> I just pushed my fn+wireless button, and my bluetooth and wifi shut off... then I pushed it again and only the bluetooth turned back on and wifi wont come back up
[12:06] <theflyingfool> thanks
[12:06] <kjaer> mojojojo__, No
[12:06] <kitche> doofy2: umask if used correctly will let a standard user write to the filesystem
[12:06] <Slart> _Sean: ah.. it's Software sources.. then select first pane there.... check proprietary drivers...
[12:06] <squeee> it still reads my card in dmesg though
[12:06] <mojojojo__> toob bad
[12:06] <mojojojo__> too bad
[12:06] <kjaer> mojojojo__, Not a goal atm.
[12:06] <ucordes> stefg: i heard of this, yes ;)
[12:06] <mag_> please help me with samba "ACL's"
[12:07] <doofy2> kitche, umask in fstab?
[12:07] <Slart> _Sean: you can check the other repos too.. univers, multiverse
[12:07] <kjaer> doofy2, Is it a transportable disk ?
[12:07] <stefg> mag_: read the hwto and /j #samba
[12:07] <_Sean> Kay, think you Slart
[12:07] <_Sean> thank*
[12:07] <doofy2> kjaer, nope its not. Its /dev/hdb
[12:07] <Slart> _Sean: you're welcome.
[12:07] <hatt_> server irc.igloos.ca
[12:07] <mag_> stefg: do you know someting about ACL's ?
[12:08] <_Sean> also, when trying to copy files from windows into linux (for firefox bookmarks) how do i deal with "Documents And Settings"?
[12:08] <kitche> !permission|doofy2: you want the second link and the volume part to understand about umask
[12:08] <ubotu> doofy2: you want the second link and the volume part to understand about umask: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[12:08] <_Sean> %20 doesnt seem to work
[12:08] <stefg> mag_: not enough to troubleshoot a problem
[12:08] <Dial_tone> quote it
[12:08] <soujiro> when i search for openSSH i only find "encryption keys"
[12:08] <jinx099> anyone have an audigy2?
[12:08] <Slart> mag_: if it's a very very easy question I might be able to help you.. I've setup my own samba server.. but it was a year or so ago.. problem with linux. you don't reinstall reconfigure it all the time so you forget things =)
[12:08] <Dial_tone> 'Documents And Settings'
[12:08] <naut> !strings
[12:08] <_Sean> ah, okay
[12:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about strings - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:09] <Dial_tone> or do \
[12:09] <doofy2> kitche, thank you
[12:09] <naut> What do I need to install to get the strings utility on dapper?
[12:09] <_Sean> so instead of /Documents and Settings/  its \Documents and Settings/ ?
[12:09] <kitche> doofy2: I don't use umask myself so I can't explain it as well as that wiki page does
[12:09] <ucordes> stefg: where do i have to put my script in that file now?
[12:09] <doofy2> kitche, i got it, just added umask=0222 to fstab
[12:09] <Slart> mag_: or.. you're not using the usual smb.conf file? that's what I did
[12:10] <mag_> Slart:  I try to do a fileserver with samba but is very complicated my tree of folders ... do would you like to see my tree
[12:10] <kjaer> doofy2, You really should use chown and chmod to set up the permissions.
[12:10] <mag_> Slart: no no no no now I have samba and it work's fine but the problem is the privilegies of some users
[12:10] <Dial_tone> beagled is pretty darn good
[12:10] <doofy2> kjaer, ever for volumes?
[12:10] <mag_> Slart: in #samba they said me that I need a ACl's
[12:10] <kitche> kjaer: no you shouldn't since neither of those have nothing to do with a volume
[12:11] <_Sean> Last question, with gaim, is there someway to edit my aim profile?
[12:11] <mag_> Slart: look ! http://patch.timesofcoffee.com/data/files/tree.xls this is my tree of folders an users !
[12:11] <Slart> mag_: hmm, I only setup a simple one dir for one user..is it a complicated setup?
[12:11] <kitche> kjaer: it's also safer to use umask just in case you mess up with chown and chmod
[12:11] <theBishop> is it possible to do debbootstrap from a ramdrive on a liveCD?
[12:11] <doofy2> is there a way to force umount?
[12:11] <mag_> Slart: is complicated when you have more users and more folders !
[12:11] <kjaer> kitche, So it is safer to give everyone permission to read and write ?
[12:12] <kitche> kjaer: umask only gives that user permission to
[12:12] <Slart> mag_: my oh my... I think I got a headache by just looking at that... =)
[12:12] <Slart> mag_: yes.. acl's would be they way to go..
[12:12] <mag_> can somebody help me with ACL's ?
[12:12] <kitche> kjaer: umask=UID for the user you want to have read write permission
[12:12] <Slart> mag_: the #samba people weren't able to help you?
[12:12] <kupesoft> What's a good, rugged laptop that has complete (or near complete) ubuntu support?
[12:12] <mag_> Slart: do you know someting about ?
[12:13] <stefg> ucordes: http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-customizing.de.html (already in your language :-) )
[12:13] <Slart> mag_: nope.. never used them.. just know they exist
[12:13] <tuxub> what can I do if my nautilus window stops responding on remote ssh folders? this happens sometimes and my only solution is to logoff and on again, which is very uncomfortable. is there a way to avoid this?
[12:13] <ucordes> stefg: thanks a lot
[12:13] <mag_> Slart: no... the problem is that all those never answer just two users and those users doesn't know !
[12:14] <kjaer> kitche, He should probably use uid or gid instead then.
[12:14] <mag_> Slart: do you know a irc channel about ACL's ?
[12:14] <Slart> mag_: hehe... the big problem with irc channels.. the times you really need help they are empty =).. .
[12:14] <selah> kupesoft: System76 is supposed to be one.
[12:14] <mag_> Slart: yes I knoe ! lol :P
[12:14] <Slart> mag_: no.. I would have tried the #samba channel too.. but surely there must be some tutorials on the big internet?
[12:15] <mag_> Slart: surely !
[12:15] <squeee> I'm having wireless issues... I pushed FN+F2 for the wireless toggle button.  Bluetooth came back up, but wireless didn't.  The only thing I've noticed is in dmesg when i push fn+f2 i get "atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x88 on isa0060/serio0)."  Anyone have any ideas
[12:15] <naut> How come ubuntu doesn't have the unix strings utility?
[12:15] <naut> I thought it was one of the standard gnu tools
[12:15] <mag_> Slart: I'll go to that channel but I will come back !
[12:15] <juano> mag_: what kind of samba issue?
[12:15] <Slart> mag_: good luck
[12:15] <naut> !gnu
[12:15] <ubotu> G(NU's) N(ot) U(nix). A project that aimed to develop a complete operating system of Free Software, which Ubuntu is based on. See http://gnu.org
[12:15] <soujiro> if i want a webserver with PHP. what do i search for in add remove prog ?
[12:16] <kitche> kjaer: I m just going by what ubuntu standard is which is to use umask instead
[12:16] <stefg> !lamp | soujiro
[12:16] <ubotu> soujiro: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[12:16] <kjaer> naut, You mean the header files ?
[12:16] <Slart> mag_: http://www.bluelightning.org/linux/samba_acl_howto/
[12:16] <naut> kjaer, no, the command line app.
[12:16] <Mike__> Is there a setting that makes the open gl screen savers run smoother? I have a 128 meg ATI radeon 200M and the screen savers are choppy
[12:16] <Borzen> I need help with the repartitioning of my HDD
[12:17] <kjaer> Mike__, Using which driver ? cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep -i driver
[12:17] <doofy2> okay this is not working. I have an ext3 partition /dev/hdb1 and i want it mounted (so all users have read and write) at boot to /media/Storage2... what do i put in /etc/fstab
[12:17] <digm> Anyone know when apache 2.2 is coming to the repositories?
[12:17] <naut> kjaer, as in "strings <some binary file" to print out all embedded strings
[12:17] <stefg> !fstab | doofy2
[12:17] <ubotu> doofy2: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[12:17] <naut> kjaer, http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?strings
[12:17] <Mike__> fglrx
[12:18] <pb69> hello to all
[12:18] <naut> kjaer, is there a package I can install to get it?
[12:18] <stefg> !hi
[12:18] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:18] <Mike__> kjaer fglrx
[12:18] <Borzen> Can any one tell me Y my HDD wont resize and add a new partition
[12:18] <kjaer> naut, No idea, I have it.
[12:18] <selah> !partitions
[12:18] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[12:18] <hendrickvp> Umm.... If I have logout out of my drupal site, while its in off-line mode, how do I change it back?
[12:19] <pb69> question: I put a DVD into the drive (commercial DVD) and the dvd player tells me it cannot play it because it has an encryption on it (it plays fine under windows) what library am I missing to get Mplayer to work ?
[12:19] <doofy2> stefg, i've read that... I put /dev/hdb1      /media/Storage2     ext3    rw,user,auto,exec    0      0    and it still doesn't work
[12:19] <kjaer> naut, binutils installed ?
[12:19] <naut> kjaer, I'll check that
[12:19] <stefg> doofy2: forget all that crap and jusdt use a simple 'defaults' in the options column
[12:19] <selah> !DiskMounter
[12:19] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[12:20] <kjaer> pb69, mplayer is not good at dvd, (no menues) And you need libdvdcss
[12:20] <doofy2> stefg, tried that, it doesnt give normal users write permissions
[12:20] <stefg> doofy2: the thing is that you have to give the right permissions to the *folder* you want to write to
[12:20] <pb69> thanks kjaer is that apt-get possible ? or I need to find/install it ?
[12:20] <doofy2> stefg oh chmod /media/Storage2?
[12:20] <stefg> :-)
[12:20] <naut> kjaer, a static linked version but not the regular one
[12:20] <Borzen> Any one know why ubuntu partition manager wont resize my partition?
[12:21] <naut> not sure what the difference might be
[12:21] <kjaer> pb69, aptitude search libdvdcss
[12:21] <ucordes> stefg: will the defaults work for me? i just want to launch the script before xsession login
[12:21] <naut> kjaer, that was it
[12:21] <naut> thanks :)
[12:21] <pb69> kjaer thanks you very much, which dvd player would you suggest to use then if mplayer aint that good ?
[12:21] <kjaer> naut, Great then :-)
[12:21] <Mike__> kjaer is fglrx the right driver/
[12:21] <Borzen> Can i get some help here?
[12:21] <stefg> ucordes: errmm, you said you want to run it at boot time...
[12:21] <h3xis> Borzen, with what
[12:21] <kjaer> pb69, Doesn't mather much, I use gxine and mplayer
[12:22] <h3xis> Borzen, er
[12:22] <Borzen> My HDD wont change the partition
[12:22] <Slart> Borzen: are you using gparted?
[12:22] <kjaer> The movie plays alright, but sublines is a pity.
[12:22] <h3xis> Borzen, why not? what are you doing?
[12:22] <Borzen> I use the one ubuntu has on eggy
[12:22] <ucordes> stefg: yep so it is enabled when i am ready to use the system.
[12:22] <pb69> kjaer Ill get it and give it a try...
[12:22] <kjaer> Mike__, It probably is, have you tried the opensource one for r300 ?
[12:23] <Borzen> I am manualy doing it so i can just use about 6 GB for mail, web and word
[12:23] <ucordes> stefg: the script is to enable my wireless so the modules and stuff have to load for it first
[12:23] <stefg> ucordes: the system might bot without X... init S... are you sure about what you want to do?
[12:23] <selah> You can't resize mounted partitions can you?
[12:23] <kjaer> pb69, Good luck, take a look at automatix also. I think it got it too.
[12:23] <Slart> !automatix
[12:23] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:23] <ucordes> stefg: yep completly
[12:23] <Mike__> kjaer no..
[12:24] <kjaer> !easyubuntu
[12:24] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[12:24] <Borzen> I dont know, I did find a new HDD so i was going to buy that but i need more $$$
[12:24] <trev_> is anyone here having problems with gnome right now. After a direct connect it is refusing to connect?
[12:24] <pb69> lol on automoatix, I had read that before... Ill stick to the aptitude apps, nice to not have to recompile everythgin all the time
[12:24] <kjaer> :-)
[12:24] <ucordes> stefg: i would add the script to my gnome session startup but i allready want to have wireless lan before i login
[12:24] <Mike__> kjaer how would I do that/
[12:24] <_Sean> are regular amd 64 (3700+ in this case) considered k8>
[12:24] <Eldox> hey
[12:25] <pb69> arent 3700 considered i686 ?
[12:25] <Slart> _Sean: I think they are k8
[12:25] <Music_Shuffle> K8.
[12:25] <ucordes> generic
[12:25] <stefg> ucordes: wlan is of course a boot-time setting, X or not... see the link i gave you how to make rc.local call your script
[12:25] <Eldox> anyone knows how i convert a .bin file into the rigth one for ubuntu 6.10? :) i would be greateful
[12:25] <_Sean> it is generic?
[12:25] <kitche> pb69: they are actually considered i886 actually but it stopped at i686 :P
[12:25] <Music_Shuffle> Yeah
[12:25] <kjaer> Mike__, change fglrx to radeon in xorg.conf, the graphical desktop might blow away, if that makes you insecure, don't do it.
[12:26] <h3xis> Eldox, what app is it?
[12:26] <RememberPOL> So... if I shut down my laptop while the AC charging cable is plugged in, it hangs on halt (no matter if APCI is disabled)... But if I shut down _without_ the AC charging cable plugged in, it completely shuts down just fine. Any ideas why this might be so?
[12:26] <malt> is mysql-server the newest mysql in ubuntu package manager?
[12:26] <Eldox> the new google earth :)
[12:26] <htaccess> whats the name of the default screensaver in ubuntu?
[12:26] <kjaer> Eldox, chmod +x file.bin; ./file.bin
[12:26] <ucordes> stefg: i allready read this and put my script into /etc/init.d - my problem is to link it now. i don't really understand the update-rc.d command
[12:26] <nicolavs> !libgnomeui
[12:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libgnomeui - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:27] <lotacus> does anyone know if and where beryl stores it's crash log?
[12:27] <Mike__> kjaer as long as I can come back here and you help me fix it :-)
[12:27] <kjaer> RememberPOL, Can you post dmesg when you plug in the cable ?
[12:27] <foxpaul> hi all. does anyone know if it's possible to bind alt + f1 to open the gnome sled menu, rather than the standard menu?
[12:27] <kjaer> Mike__, You could just change it back to fglrx
[12:27] <Mike__> lol
[12:27] <Mike__> I know
[12:28] <kjaer> But since you won't have a tty (terminal) you might need a live cd.
[12:28] <stefg> ucordes: http://debiananwenderhandbuch.de/init.html
[12:28] <kjaer> Its pretty simple.
[12:28] <foxpaul> i've taken the original menu bar off of my panel and put the suse main-menu applet on there, but alt+f1 brings up the classic style menu, which isn't what i want
[12:29] <pebblestone> Hi, I have a question. I need to rebuild apache2 because Virtualmin needs suexec builded with homedir=/home. I downloaded apache 2.2.4 and used "./configure --with-suexec-docroot=/home && make && make install". but the problem is, after I restart apache2, it's still the old version. What's wrong with my process?
[12:29] <Dial_tone> make sure you're restarting the NEW one
[12:29] <kjaer> pebblestone, use the --prefix option to ./configure and install into /opt
[12:29] <kjaer> Easier to maintain.
[12:30] <kjaer> lotacus, Probably in ~/
[12:30] <kitche> pebblestone: probably because the apache script runs the old one still
[12:30] <mnoir> pebblestone: and use checkinstall to make easier to manage
[12:30] <pebblestone> i see. I'll try to install the new one into /opt
[12:30] <lotacus> hm
[12:30] <lotacus> let me check
[12:31] <kjaer> If it even writes such a log.
[12:31] <Tenric> howdy
[12:31] <lotacus> cuz i'm having problems with beryl not displaying any graphics and such
[12:31] <Tenric> does anyone here have jamd?
[12:31] <stefg> !xgl | lotacus
[12:31] <ubotu> lotacus: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:31] <lotacus> it just loads and defaults back to the default wm
[12:31] <lotacus> compiz.. yea, I was gonna forget beryl and try compiz
[12:31] <mnoir> lotacus: what all that means is there is a whole channel just for xgl issues!
[12:31] <malt> Also does anyone know the command in linux to create user accounts in ssh?
[12:31] <kjaer> lotacus, Try manually starting emerald , the window manager
[12:32] <kjaer> malt, useradd and adduser
[12:32] <kitche> huh emerald is not a window manager beryl is the window manager
[12:32] <kjaer> If you say so.
[12:32] <kjaer> Try manually starting both then..
[12:32] <kjaer> Then emerald is the window decorator
[12:32] <lotacus> well I know there are channels dedicated for it but .. with no disrespect. neither channel seems to be active or offer much help really other than this chan
[12:33] <hendrickvp> would any one know why the php5-imagick package wouldn't be found in install?
[12:33] <Tenric> does anyone here have jamd?
[12:33] <stefg> kitche: I#d change that statement into ' beryl will become a window manager some day'
[12:33] <pl_ice> hey
[12:34] <Tenric> hey pl
[12:34] <liberion> tengil, jamd linux??
[12:34] <Tenric> liberon: yeah
[12:34] <linux_user400354> does ubuntu have hamachi in the any universe or multiverse repositories?
[12:34] <Tenric> liberon: the mouse thing?
[12:34] <kjaer> hendrickvp, Don't no much about php, looked at php5-gd ?
[12:34] <liberion> tengil, a long time ago blag is better imho!
[12:34] <Eroick> is SkypeOut not free anymore
[12:34] <pl_ice> quick question, anyone uses like a usb or sd card to get Bluetooth? i'm going to buy one in a sec, just to make sure it works with ubuntu...
[12:35] <Tenric> liberon: I'm talking about a program, not a distro
[12:35] <kjaer> pl_ice, I have a broadcom, works flawlessly
[12:35] <liberion> tengil, what issue are u having with jamd?
[12:35] <Tenric> kjaer: lucky bastard
[12:35] <kjaer> Eroick, Skype was never free.
[12:35] <Chamuco> anyone has any ideas on how to setup a ati dual head video card?
[12:35] <kjaer> Tenric, I think most common bluetooth dongles work.
[12:36] <Tenric> liberion: trying to configure it to run in GPM; not working.
[12:36] <hendrickvp> kjaer: well the drupal install I'm doing needs imagick......
[12:36] <linux_user400354> does ubuntu have hamachi in the any universe or multiverse repositories or any good well known software similar to it?
[12:36] <pb69> pl_ice make sure you get the bluetooth modules/libs with aptitute and should be fine
[12:36] <Eroick> kjaer: it was free in North America
[12:36] <hendrickvp> kjaer: I thought I had done it before, but this time it doesn't want to find it.....
[12:36] <pl_ice> kjaer is it usb? can u tell me the model pls?
[12:36] <Tenric> kjaer: Oh, no, I have a Broadcom wireless card, not bluetooth
[12:36] <Eroick> Is there any VOIP for linux that has free out? Windows has iCall
[12:37] <liberion> Tenric, how long have uve been using jamd?
[12:37] <knight>   im running out o diskspace in root what can i do?
[12:37] <mnoir> linux_user400354: you need to learn how to look yourself, using synaptic, for instance
[12:37] <linux_user400354> mnoir: i dont have synaptic rude man
[12:37] <kjaer> Eroick, Not free software. It is still free to use.
[12:37] <Tenric> liberion: just installed it a few minutes ago
[12:37] <czedlitz> Azureus is open and each one of the torrents say they are downloading, but nothing is happening, Tracker Status jsut saying OK.... what can i do to get these going?
[12:37] <kitche> czedlitz: get more peers
[12:37] <knight> im running out of diskspace in root dir what can i do?
[12:37] <kjaer> pl_ice, It is a small device, takes a min :)
[12:38] <pl_ice> ok, thnx guyz going shoppin' for b.tooth :) c ya
[12:38] <pb69> by pl_ice
[12:38] <pl_ice> bye
[12:38] <Slart> knight: boot from the live cd, use gparted to resize and move partitions around to get more space
[12:38] <mnoir> linux_user400354: then you need to learn how to use whatever tool you use to install to answer your question
[12:38] <linux_user400354> mnoir: im considering switching back to ubuntu
[12:38] <Agrajag> knight: what is taking up so much space?
[12:38] <czedlitz> kitche, some say 0(145) Seeds, 0 (128) peers, what's that mean ?
[12:38] <pb69> knight stop using root for files ? slap another drive ? repartition ?
[12:38] <linux_user400354> mnoir: and its fine for me to ask questions, and if you dont want to help, dont reply
[12:38] <kitche> czedlitz: you have peers but you aren't connected to any of them
[12:38] <Eroick> kjaer: But I dont think that outgoing calls are free anymore.
[12:38] <knight> ive installed many things on my system
[12:38] <mnoir> !packages | linux_user400354
[12:38] <ubotu> linux_user400354: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[12:39] <czedlitz> kitche, ok i gathered that from the little red face... what can I do to get this fixed?
[12:39] <kjaer> To other skype users, yes it is. (I know Janus Friis, the author.)
[12:39] <knight> Agrajag: its just only 5 % free now
[12:39] <stefg> !bum > ucordes
[12:39] <kjaer> Not to normal phones.
[12:39] <czedlitz> kitche, was working about 3 days ago and now i jsut turned the comp back on and they aren't working....
[12:39] <kitche> czedlitz: nothing unless you are behind a firewall then open it up for those ports
[12:39] <linux_user400354> mnoir: does that website include the multiverse, universe and backports or only official ubuntu packages?
[12:40] <mnoir> linux_user400354: go there and see and then tell us!
[12:40] <czedlitz> kitche, Open, NAT OK is at the bottom, and i havn't changed anything since the other day, machine has a static IP and port is open on the router
[12:40] <Vuen> hey guys, how do i input special characters in linux? like in windows i'd go alt+130, what's the equivalent of that for linux?
[12:40] <knight> Agrajag: whats the normal space requirement of root dir ?'
[12:40] <kjaer> Tenric, Seems my dongle is from Belkin. :-/
[12:40] <kitche> czedlitz: maybe all of those peers have their connections full already it happens
[12:40] <asdf_> can anyone tell me what version of ffmpeg is in the edgy repos?
[12:40] <Tenric> kjaer: huh.
[12:40] <L0cKd0wN> is there a way to ssh into a box that is JUST running the livecd ?
[12:41] <Slart> Vuen: in gnome I have some nifty little things in my right click menu.. special input methods.. haven't tried them yet... but I'd start looking there
[12:41] <malt> 2.6.17-10-generic (SMP)
[12:41] <Slart> !ffmpeg
[12:41] <ubotu> ffmpeg: multimedia player, server and encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:0.cvs20060823-3.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 175 kB, installed size 612 kB
[12:41] <kjaer> knight, You could remove the .deb files, which is cached.
[12:41] <linux_user400354> mnoir: why did i even bother to ask you? you wouldnt answer a simple yes or no question when you already know the answer.
[12:41] <knight> Slart: if i use gparted and add some gbs to my root will there be any problem?
[12:41] <malt> I installed version off of ubuntu site, and my version shows this Debian testing/unstable
[12:41] <knight> kjaer: thank u
[12:41] <Slart> knight: I wouldn't think so... but you never know.. backup any important stuff before trying
[12:41] <lupine_85> anyone know of an easy way to convert $random_format to .smv format videos in linux? the provided SigmaTel utility is giving me a hard time...
[12:42] <mnoir> linux_user400354: 1. i didn't know the answer.  2. learn to do your own research or you will be stuck some day.  3. learn to give back to the community
[12:42] <kitche> malt: yes that is correct
[12:42] <malt> [kitche, thought the version was stable?
[12:42] <kjaer> knight, mine is 6gib btw.
[12:42] <malt> everyone told me it was
[12:42] <linux_user400354> mnoir: whatever, tell your mom that
[12:42] <kitche> malt: edgy is based on debian testing/unstable
[12:43] <knight> kjaer: ive just got only 4 gb
[12:43] <kjaer> knight, Hard to squeeze everything in there then :-)
[12:44] <knight> Slart: is there any other way i can prevent my files ?
[12:44] <Slart> knight: huh? preserve your files?
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[12:45] <Chamuco> anyone has any ideas on how to setup a ati dual head video card?
[12:45] <Slart> knight: I don't think anything will disappear.. but I'm not going to promise you it wont... burn a CD or something with the stuff you can't live without or just live on the edge.. I've resized my partitions without loosing anything
[12:45] <phr34ck> is it possible to defragment like in windows ?
[12:46] <Slart> phr34ck: I don't think so.. but people say you don't have to
[12:46] <Slart> phr34ck: but people said that about ntfs too.. =)
[12:46] <phr34ck> Slart, I think it's a must.
[12:46] <knight> Slart: i mean repartitioning
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[12:46] <JosefK> phr34ck: http://www.salmar.com/pipermail/wftl-lug/2002-March/000603.html
[12:46] <knight> Slart: is there any way to change /etc or any other folder to move around noher parition?
[12:47] <kjaer> knight, format a partition to the cause and set up the mount pount in fstab
[12:47] <Chamuco> I think you can use kdirstat to show you a map of your drive
[12:47] <czedlitz> kitche, shouldn't when you are seeding it be uploading also ?
[12:47] <knight> Slart:  so that  i can keep this settings
[12:47] <pebblestone> kjaer: it's not working. what's interesting is that I've already removed apache2.
[12:47] <_Sean> Newest one is Edgy right?
[12:47] <lupine_85> nobody? :/
[12:47] <kitche> czedlitz: maybe it depends
[12:47] <kitche> _Sean: yes
[12:47] <kjaer> Chamuco, It is called xinerama. Don't know much about it.
[12:47] <czedlitz> kitche, cause i have 0 going in and 0 going out, i mean everything is just sitting there
[12:47] <Xinux> I'm not able to SU in terminal...
[12:47] <Slart> knight: ah... yes.. I've done that once too.. I don't remember all the steps though
[12:47] <kjaer> pebblestone, Any errors ?
[12:47] <_Sean> Well after I did the last step, and restarted X I got a message about X not being able to load.
[12:47] <_Sean> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[12:47] <kjaer> Xinux, use sudo or sudo -s
[12:47] <mnoir> _Sean: newest lts= 6.06, newest general release=6.10, newest dev= feisty
[12:47] <kitche> czedlitz: it happens
[12:48] <adaptr> I'd use filelight instead of kdirstat.. it's way nicer :)
[12:48] <RememberPOL> kjaer: nothing changes in dmesg when I plug the cable in...
[12:48] <clayg> anyone know how hard it is to get compiz running on ubuntu?
[12:48] <knight> kjaer: is it what kjaer said?
[12:48] <Xinux> kjaer, thank you =)
[12:48] <Slart> knight: but it's possible..  read some tutorials about partitioning first.. there are some good advice out there..
[12:48] <pebblestone> kjaer: chown: changing ownership of `/var/lock/apache2': Operation not permitted
[12:48] <clayg> also what is a good streets+trips/gps/map program for ubuntu
[12:48] <_Sean> Luckily I remembered how to restore the xorg.conf
[12:48] <knight> Slart: is it what kjaersaid?
[12:48] <adaptr> clayg: dunno.. but Beryl is 10 minutes' work if your video card is supported :)
[12:48] <clayg> beryl?
[12:48] <JosefK> lupine_85: you could do "ffmpeg -formats" and see if the format you need is listed
[12:48] <ptley> phr34ck: you don't need to defragment a linux file system because linux file systems don't jam files right next to each other in the first place.
[12:48] <kjaer> pebblestone, How do you start it ?
[12:48] <clayg> adaptr, is that a diff distro
[12:48] <clayg> ?
[12:49] <adaptr> clayg: it's like compiz, but done right :)
[12:49] <mnoir> !beryl | clayg
[12:49] <ubotu> clayg: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[12:49] <RememberPOL> clayg: Beryl's a fork of Compiz.
[12:49] <Chamuco> other than the system>preferences>screen resolution is there another way to see the properties of your display?
[12:49] <phr34ck> ptley, okay.
[12:49] <pebblestone> kjaer: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[12:49] <clayg> i want it, lol
[12:49] <kjaer> And you installed into /opt ?
[12:49] <Slart> knight: yes.. that sounded like that.. copy stuff over, change the fstab.. reboot..
[12:49] <adaptr> clayg: set up a repo, install it, go wild :)
[12:49] <clayg> adaptr, is the link ubotu gave a good one or is there a better guikde
[12:49] <pebblestone> kjaer: sorry. I didn't type sudo .
[12:49] <RememberPOL> kjaer: Do you want my whole dmesg output?
[12:49] <clayg> damn i can do it through apt?
[12:49] <knight> kjaer: is there any manual related?
[12:49] <neguin> hello evrbdy!
[12:49] <clayg> that is even better
[12:49] <ptley> phr34ck: windows will save a file and then save the next file at the next possible spot on the drive.  if you then open that file and edit it and it is too big to fit where it used to, it fragments
[12:49] <kjaer> RememberPOL, Just the last few lines
[12:49] <pebblestone> kjaer: it's working now but still old version which is 2.0.55
[12:49] <adaptr> clayg: if your video card is up to it it'll *literally* blow your mind...
[12:50] <Slart> knight: but please.. find a tutorial first.. so you don't forget something and end up with a system that wont boot
[12:50] <kjaer> knight, to ? :-)
[12:50] <RememberPOL> kjaer: They don't seem related to AC cable..they're all about cdrom
[12:50] <kjaer> pebblestone, How did you start it ?
[12:50] <adaptr> clayg: there are better ones, and you also want a good svn repo for beryl - dunno if the official ones are up to 0.1.4 already
[12:50] <mnoir> pebblestone: that is cuz when you install an alternate release to /opt, the normal scripts do not work for you
[12:50] <lupine_85> JosefK: unfortunately, it seems to be a proprietary format :/ and ffmpeg doesn't support it
[12:50] <clayg> adaptr, i just got this hpdv6000t, has nvidia 256megger think it'll run it
[12:50] <pebblestone> kjaer: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[12:50] <RememberPOL> kjaer: http://rafb.net/p/ntlPuI45.html
[12:50] <knight> kjaer: fstab set mount point change /etc or other partition to another drive
[12:51] <pebblestone> mnoir: then what should I do?
[12:51] <adaptr> clayg: no gibberEnglish please, I have no clue what you mean
[12:51] <kjaer> knight, Sure, man mount; the cool command
[12:51] <knight> kjaer: on net?
[12:51] <mnoir> pebblestone: several possibilities:  alter the init.d scripts, install in the normal place, manual start/stop
[12:51] <knight> kjaer: any other reference?
[12:51] <kjaer> knight, http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/mount.8.html
[12:52] <kjaer> It is pretty straightforward
[12:52] <mnoir> pebblestone: the location of configs could be an issue too
[12:52] <superm1> hi guys, i was just looking for some general advice about VLC deinterlacers - which one is a all around good one to choose for most video/dvd playback
[12:52] <kjaer> pebblestone, Browse you /opt directory
[12:52] <mnoir> pebblestone: i like ny second alternative best...
[12:52] <knight> Slart: can u help me with the tutorial where can i find it?
[12:52] <mnoir> ny=my
[12:52] <JosefK> I could never get a decent deinterlacer working in VLC superm1, the best I found was 'tvtime', which is (imo) a pain to setup outide of Amarok
[12:52] <Slart> knight: I'll take a look.. see what I can find
[12:52] <kjaer> pebblestone, You've got some new init scripts
[12:53] <JosefK> s/amarok/kaffeine/
[12:53] <kjaer> RememberPOL, I have no idea then, tried forcing load of acpi modules ?
[12:53] <superm1> JosefK, unfortunately VLC is the only player I can get that is error free for everything else
[12:53] <superm1> everything else using xine-lib has a horrible spdif bug
[12:53] <superm1> :(
[12:53] <mnoir> pebblestone: with waht kjaer  says, my first option is better
[12:53] <_Sean> where can i view my system log? i forget
[12:53] <mnoir> _Sean: /var/log
[12:53] <clayg> adaptr, is 256 megabytes of video ram enough
[12:53] <kjaer> _Sean, /var/log and dmesg
[12:53] <_Sean> ty
[12:53] <kjaer> clayg, For what ?
[12:53] <clayg> beryl
[12:53] <JosefK> superm1: ack :/ discard then, but it depended on what I was watching (ie. anime looked cack with any deinterlacing)
[12:54] <kjaer> clayg, More than plenty
[12:54] <stefg> !info sysvrc-config
[12:54] <superm1> JosefK, okay thanks a bunch for the advice
[12:54] <Slart> knight: here's one http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/
[12:54] <_Sean> which do i look at?
[12:54] <ubotu> Package sysvrc-config does not exist in any distro I know
[12:54] <_Sean> i need to find a file i changed
[12:54] <stefg> !info sysv-rc-config
[12:54] <pebblestone> mnoir: Ok, I'll look into init.d script.
[12:54] <mnoir> _Sean: for what?
[12:54] <ubotu> Package sysv-rc-config does not exist in any distro I know
[12:54] <RememberPOL> kjaer: Yeah, appended acpi=force to my grub boot command and it's the same problem
[12:54] <pebblestone> kjaer: I got 4 dirs in /opt
[12:54] <ferrouswheel> hi all. can't run synaptic or adept please help. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1117/
[12:54] <knight> Slart: anything other?
[12:54] <clayg> kjaer, i put the repo in my sources.lst but im getting errors, any idea what im doing wrong?
[12:54] <Slart> knight: here's more reading http://ftp.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/warty/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/apa.html
[12:54] <clayg> it wont let me grab the package
[12:54] <Salvar> Hello. Testing...
[12:54] <mnoir> pebblestone: init.d is a dir and you will need to do a little more than replace the script there
[12:54] <_Sean> mnoir: i need to find a file i changed
[12:54] <kjaer> clayg, Try pasting the errors
[12:55] <clayg> k
[12:55] <mnoir> _Sean: start with messages
[12:55] <kjaer> RememberPOL, Still, figure out which module it loads when it works and modprobe does modules.
[12:55] <kjaer> lsmod will show loaded modules
[12:55] <mnoir> _Sean: do an ls -latr in that dir to see what logs have changed most recently
[12:55] <kjaer> pebblestone, /opt/apache or similar ?
[12:55] <knight> Slart: ya
[12:55] <clayg> http://pastebin.ca/312528
[12:55] <pebblestone> mnoir: do you mean that I need to change some script besides apache2?
[12:55] <mnoir> _Sean: remember not everything is logged
[12:56] <ferrouswheel> i can't run synaptic because it is looking for libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6.so.3.11 but ubuntu upgraded to libapt-pkg-libc6.4-6.so.3.51 - can anyone help me?
[12:56] <pebblestone> kjaer: /opt/bin /opt/build /opt/include /opt/lib
[12:56] <kjaer> clayg, Try installing with aptitude install beryl
[12:56] <mnoir> pebblestone: no - i mean that the way the init scripts work, you may need to change some things in rcX.d directories
[12:56] <kjaer> mnoir, And no apache ?
[12:56] <clayg> kjaer, ok
[12:56] <RememberPOL> kjaer: I don't completely understand. Again, if I unplug my AC cable right before I shut down then it works fine, but if I try to shut down while it's plugged in then it hangs... When exactly am I supposed to check which modules are loaded?
[12:56] <_Sean> how can i log into root to save with gedit?
[12:56] <pebblestone> mnoir: i see.
[12:57] <mnoir> kjaer: huh/
[12:57] <knight> Slart: thank you for he help
[12:57] <Slart> knight: you're welcome. Hope it works out for you
[12:57] <mnoir> pebblestone: it aint hard but requires some care
[12:57] <kjaer> mnoir, sorry to pebblestone ..
[12:57] <bimberi> _Sean: sudo gedit ...
[12:57] <_Sean> through the file explorer?
[12:57] <mims> hi is there anyone who knows what a good program to install for editing photos and making slideshows with stilos and effect and backgraound music tracks?
[12:57] <Salvar> This is the Ubuntu support chat, right?
[12:57] <mnoir> pebblestone: otherwise apache will not behave the way you want
[12:57] <jughead> How do you upgrade the firmware or flash a bios with Ubuntu?  I'm looking a new components and some mention flashing the bios.  I never thought about how that might be done with linux
[12:57] <livingdaylight> is there an open-source chat application that runs in windows?
[12:58] <Slart> livingdaylight: chat=IRC? then xchat is one
[12:58] <bimberi> _Sean: hm, no, from the terminal
[12:58] <mnoir> pebblestone: the new init script should conform to standards for parameters
[12:58] <_Sean> aw :<
[12:58] <kjaer> RememberPOL, I am not sure about anything, but the shutdown sequence shouldn't have anything to do with the cablem unless its figure that this is a laptop since it is now running on battery and then loads the proper acpi modules.
[12:58] <bimberi> livingdaylight: xchat is available for windows
[12:58] <Salvar> Awfully crowded in here.
[12:58] <mnoir> Salvar: :)
[12:59] <mims> anyone a film junky who uses sbuntu?
[12:59] <RememberPOL> kjaer: It might be related to the cstep / intel speedstep features of my Pentium M processor
[12:59] <pebblestone> mnoir: i see.
[12:59] <Slart> livingdaylight: but there is one official version that isn't free any more... but there are also unofficial versions that are free.. not cracked or anything.. just free
[12:59] <L0cKd0wN> what's the root password for the livecd ?
[12:59] <pebblestone> kjaer: Did I do something wrong?
[12:59] <mnoir> pebblestone: if anything is unclear, ask!
[12:59] <Salvar> I'm trying to get into Linux, but the documentation isn't very beginner-friendly.
[12:59] <livingdaylight> Slart, sorry, i mean like gaim
[12:59] <pebblestone> mnoir: Ok
[12:59] <kitche> L0cKd0wN: there isn't one
[12:59] <kjaer> L0cKd0wN, use sudo
[12:59] <Slart> livingdaylight: miranda im is one alternative
[12:59] <RememberPOL> or sudo passwd
[12:59] <theflyingfool> has anyone tried to get windows live messanger working on ubuntu, i am switching a friend to ubuntu, and he doesnt seem to want to use gaim
[12:59] <Salvar> Right now I've got a mouse problem.
[12:59] <kjaer> pebblestone, Probably.
[12:59] <L0cKd0wN> i tried mounting an NTFS hdd
[12:59] <livingdaylight> bimberi, i meant like gaim or amsn
[12:59] <L0cKd0wN> using sudo
[12:59] <Slart> livingdaylight: I think gaim exists for windows too..
[12:59] <L0cKd0wN> and it won't give me access
[12:59] <livingdaylight> thx
[01:00] <RememberPOL> theflyingfool: Try winehq.org ?
[01:00] <L0cKd0wN> even tried
[01:00] <kjaer> theflyingfool, Then don't switch him.
[01:00] <L0cKd0wN>  etc /fstab
[01:00] <IntuitiveNipple> theflyingfool: Try him on aMSN
[01:00] <L0cKd0wN> didn't work either
[01:00] <bimberi> livingdaylight: gaim is available for windows too
[01:00] <livingdaylight> thx, bimberi
[01:00] <__pink_> hey can you help me with ACl's please ?
[01:00] <theflyingfool> IntuitiveNipple: your a smart cookike
[01:00] <pebblestone> mnoir: actually. I have no idea how to edit the scripts but I'll see the apache2 docs first. Thank you.
[01:00] <bimberi> livingdaylight: np :)
[01:00] <pebblestone> kjaer: thanks to you too.
[01:00] <Salvar> Can someone help me with my mouse problem?
[01:00] <mnoir> :)
[01:01] <mims> anyone? I;m TOTALLY new to IRC and I'm wondereing where to go to find out about ubuntu/linux programs thet mimic iphoto?
[01:01] <kjaer> theflyingfool, He could use mercury and java6, mercury is only half bad and not opensource or anything. And java6 because it sucks less for desktop apps than java5.
[01:01] <L0cKd0wN> how do i mount my NTFS hdd so i can back it up? (using sudo)
[01:01] <Slart> mims: this would be a good place then =)
[01:01] <kjaer> mims, What can iPhoto do ?
[01:01] <L0cKd0wN> cuz i've even tried changing the owner of the folder, but then it says "Permission Denied"
[01:01] <kjaer> L0cKd0wN, Install ntfs-3g
[01:01] <L0cKd0wN> but im sudo....
[01:01] <knight> is there any problem if i delete contents in /var/cache/apt/arcieves?
[01:01] <theflyingfool> kae: i havnt hrd of mercury what is it
[01:02] <L0cKd0wN> does apt-get work on the livecd?
[01:02] <noobcook> morning
[01:02] <L0cKd0wN> kjaer,
[01:02] <mims> it can take stills put them in a slide show, add some effects to them, and put a soundtrack underneath
[01:02] <Kirok> L0cKd0wN: try sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[01:02] <noobcook> yes
[01:02] <knight> is there any problem if i delete contents in /var/cache/apt/arcieves?
[01:02] <noobcook> it does
[01:02] <bimberi> ntfs-3g? only need that if writing to it
[01:02] <mnoir> pebblestone: just a warning - the #apache channel can be helpful but they hate the debian config, so be prepared for some razzing if you go there
[01:02] <livingdaylight> bimberi, i see that there are three packages of gaim for windows available
[01:02] <L0cKd0wN> i just need to get the data off
[01:02] <L0cKd0wN> ok one moment i'll try now
[01:02] <L0cKd0wN> :D
[01:02] <kjaer> mims, I really like f-spot, no sound thou.
[01:02] <noobcook> lockdown  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ that tells you how to get NTFS 3g
[01:02] <Kirok> L0cKd0wN: you'll need to create the folder and know the number of the HD
[01:02] <kyncani> knight: apt-get clean  will clean it
[01:02] <maxamillion> anyone know of a gui network config front end that is known to function with ndiswrapper?
[01:02] <Slart> Picasa isn't available for linux?
[01:02] <knight> kyncani: ok
[01:03] <kjaer> Slart, Not opensource or free software.
[01:03] <bimberi> livingdaylight: kk, I wouldn't know which one though (if that's where you're headed)
[01:03] <IntuitiveNipple> maxamillion: Network Manager worked for me on a notebook
[01:03] <_Sean> How do I set up my dual monitors?
[01:03] <livingdaylight> bimberi, gaim.exe; gaimedebug.exe; gaim.no.gtk.exe
[01:03] <mims> ok thanks, it's a place to start, is there a group in linux for filmmakers?
[01:03] <Slart> kjaer: oh.. well.. no.. that's right =)
[01:03] <Salvar> Are there different rooms in this channel, or is it just a big free-for-all?
[01:03] <maxamillion> IntuitiveNipple: i actually run Xubuntu ... i assume network manager to be a gnome application?
[01:03] <IntuitiveNipple> _Sean: which video adapter do you have?
[01:03] <livingdaylight> bimberi, yes, i was ^^
[01:03] <_Sean> nvidia 7800GT
[01:03] <IntuitiveNipple> maxamillion: possibly, yes.
[01:03] <mnoir> Salvar: one big chaos - dive in
[01:03] <livingdaylight> Slart, do you know which one to choose?
[01:03] <_Sean> twinview?
[01:03] <Salvar> Aww.
[01:03] <knight> knight: :-)
[01:03] <Naik0> Where is azuerus located?
[01:03] <maxamillion> IntuitiveNipple: well, i will give that a try then ... thank you
[01:04] <livingdaylight> Slart,  gaim.exe; gaimedebug.exe; gaim.no.gtk.exe
[01:04] <kjaer> _Sean, Install the driver and search for xinerama.
[01:04] <__pink_> do you know someting about ACL's ?
[01:04] <Slart> livingdaylight: when I used windows I used Miranda.. it worked nicely for me
[01:04] <Salvar> I feel like a stock market trader.
[01:04] <tobyr> yay i got edgy working
[01:04] <Slart> livingdaylight: try them =) I have no idea
[01:04] <kjaer> livingdaylight, Take gaim.exe
[01:04] <_Sean> I just installed the drivers, that was annoying x_x
[01:04] <Caca> Naik0: Universe.
[01:04] <livingdaylight> Slart, what does nogtc and debug mean?
[01:04] <Naik0> Caca: i ment on my harddrive
[01:04] <IntuitiveNipple> _Sean: have you checked out this thread in the forums? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174&page=42
[01:04] <Salvar> Okay, see if anyone recognizes my problem. My scroll wheel suddenly controls back/forward, and my back/forward (thumb) buttons control scrolling.
[01:04] <knight> amy similiar circuit makin software in ubntu?
[01:04] <livingdaylight> kjaer, gaim.exe ok. Do you happen to know what the other two are?
[01:05] <knight> amy similiar circuit makin software in ubuntu?
[01:05] <kjaer> livingdaylight, debug is for debugging (developers) gtk is the toolkit used.
[01:05] <livingdaylight> kjaer, ok, thx
[01:05] <Salvar> I suspect it may have happened when I installed imwheel, but I followed the directions.
[01:05] <knight> amy similiar circuit makin software in ubuntu like orcad?
[01:05] <Slart> livingdaylight: debug is probably a version that logs things a bit more.. to find bugs in the program.. gtk is a framwork to make windows, buttons etc.. exists on windows and linux
[01:05] <Slart> !gtk
[01:05] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of Gnome and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[01:05] <noobcook> does anyone know if i run a program that connects to its own independant IRC server with a password, how i can get that password so i can connect on a normal irc program?
[01:05] <Caca> Naik0: All of the files associated to or just the executable?
[01:05] <kjaer> Where toolkit is the thing that puts things on the screen.
[01:05] <Naik0> executable
[01:05] <_Sean> I want twinview right?
[01:05] <Caca> Type in 'whereis azureus' in the terminal.
[01:06] <IntuitiveNipple> _Sean: probably, for nvidia
[01:06] <Caca> Would assumingly be in /usr/bin/azureus.
[01:06] <Salvar> Anyone?
[01:06] <tyler> join #ubuntu-xgl
[01:06] <willys_fueguino> What's the command to run a program as another user??
[01:06] <knight> ubotu: is there any similiar circuit makin software in ubuntu like circuit maker?
[01:06] <livingdaylight> Slart, thx
[01:06] <Slart> livingdaylight: you're welcome
[01:06] <bimberi> livingdaylight: try the nogtk one.  That probably means that you don't need to install the gtk libraries for windows.
[01:07] <kjaer> willys_fueguino, su $user -c $command
[01:07] <theflyingfool> will rhythmbox sync with an ipod
[01:07] <Crescendo_> Why is nvidia-glx being removed with my most recent ubuntu update
[01:07] <Kirok> willys_fueguino: try su<user>
[01:07] <kjaer> theflyingfool, There is iPod support, yes.
[01:07] <RememberPOL> _Sean: Only if you have two monitors.
[01:07] <juicyfish> Does anyone know how to install FireFox 2 on 6.06? Synaptic only lists 1.5 and I'd like to get up to 2.0. Im too new with the terminal to know exactly what Im doing.
[01:07] <willys_fueguino> without using su??
[01:07] <knight>  is there any similiar circuit makin software in ubuntu like circuit maker?
[01:07] <BlueLaguna> where can I manually set the name servers?
[01:07] <kyncani> bot > knight
[01:07] <mcquaid> kind of annoying when you can't watch a video.  i wanted to watch the apple keynote, i tried mplayer, vlc, xine but didn't work in any
[01:07] <theflyingfool> kjaer: thanks much
[01:07] <mnoir> !ubotu | knight uuh - ubotu is a bot:
[01:07] <marlun> What package/application do I need to create a pdf file from a latex file?
[01:07] <ubotu> knight uuh - ubotu is a bot:: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:07] <hyperb0lix> BlueLaguna: ?
[01:07] <mcquaid> anyone able to get it to play?
[01:08] <willys_fueguino> kjaer: I want to make a script for user x2 to run adept with su privilegies of user x1
[01:08] <bimberi> !firefox | juicyfish
[01:08] <ubotu> juicyfish: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[01:08] <hyperb0lix> BlueLaguna: DNS servers?
[01:08] <Kirok> BlueLaguna: try System>Networking, it has options for hosts and DNS etc
[01:08] <juicyfish> Ah.
[01:08] <juicyfish> Thanks.
[01:08] <BlueLaguna> On the console
[01:08] <BlueLaguna> What file do I edit
[01:08] <kjaer> willys_fueguino, Easy way is to alter the sudo conf file.
[01:08] <BlueLaguna> hyperb0lix: yes
[01:08] <hyperb0lix> BlueLaguna: sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf
[01:08] <Salvar> C'mon.
[01:08] <BlueLaguna> ah, yeah, that's the one, thanks
[01:08] <Salvar> Anyone want to help convert a Windows power-user?
[01:08] <willys_fueguino> kjaer: /etc/sudoers??
[01:08] <hyperb0lix> BlueLaguna: But if you have DHCP enabled, it'll overwrite the file
[01:08] <knight> whats that?
[01:09] <Slart> Salvar: there are button mappings in xorg.conf
[01:09] <revan> hi, is there a way to switch to 32bit color mode in ubuntu?
[01:09] <Salvar> Yeah, but they're just numbers.
[01:09] <Salvar> I don't know what they represent.
[01:09] <Slart> Salvar: I don't know if they will solve that problem.. but you can try switching them around..
[01:09] <kjaer> willys_fueguino, write visudo
[01:09] <kitche> revan: well 24 bit and 32 bit are the same actually
[01:09] <kyncani> knight: ubotu is an irc bot, a robot, it only do what we tell it to do
[01:09] <Slart> Salvar: I don't know what they represent either..  I just use the default buttons
[01:10] <willys_fueguino> kjaer: ??
[01:10] <Salvar> I have a big mouse.
[01:10] <gikidBot> DCC
[01:10] <Slart> Salvar: oh.. wait. .hold on
[01:10] <Salvar> I followed the directions here:
[01:10] <Salvar> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Mice
[01:10] <Salvar> To try to set it up.
[01:10] <Salvar> Including installing imwheel
[01:10] <kjaer> willys_fueguino, Use the visudo command, but you should probably just add the user to the admin group
[01:10] <noobcook> does anyone know the command to dump all outgoing connections on a certain port?
[01:10] <Salvar> But then the next day the mapping is off.
[01:10] <revan> kitche, I need it for WINE because one of the programs I'm trying to run gives me a message saying it needs 32bit color
[01:10] <tobyr> Hey guys
[01:10] <willys_fueguino> kjaer: I dont want the user x2 to write the user x1 (the 1 with su privilegies) password.
[01:10] <knight> kyncani: dats amazing
[01:10] <tobyr> I just installed Linux 6.10 Edgy...
[01:10] <tobyr> And did updates with apt-get
[01:10] <gikid> lol
[01:11] <Slart> Salvar:     Option         "Buttons" "7"
[01:11] <Slart>     Option         "Protocol" "auto"
[01:11] <Slart>     Option         "ButtonMapping" "1 2 3 6 7"
[01:11] <Slart>     Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
[01:11] <willys_fueguino> kjaer: can we go PV?
[01:11] <tobyr> Then I did: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[01:11] <kjaer> willys_fueguino, sure
[01:11] <Crescendo_> Why is nvidia-glx being removed with my most recent ubuntu update
[01:11] <tobyr> and sudo nvidia-xconfig
[01:11] <Slart> Zaxismapping is the wheel.. try changing the numbers there
[01:11] <tobyr> Now my X start won't boot
[01:11] <knight> kyncani: can i get it to search something?
[01:11] <tobyr> X server even
[01:11] <Slart> Salvar: Zaxismapping is the wheel.. try changing the numbers there
[01:11] <tobyr> How do I get it to start?
[01:11] <tobyr> :(
[01:11] <kjaer> tobyr, aptitude will be more helpsome to resolve the dependencies.
[01:11] <tobyr> eh??
[01:11] <Salvar> Okay.
[01:11] <Salvar> What's the difference between sudo and gksudo?
[01:11] <kyncani> !thanks | knight
[01:11] <tobyr> I basically did all the steps shown here: http://lunapark6.com/?p=2501
[01:11] <ubotu> knight: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[01:11] <kjaer> aptitude install nvidia-glx
[01:12] <Crescendo_> Salvar, Gksudo opens in gnome
[01:12] <kyncani> !ubotu  > knight
[01:12] <Slart> Salvar: one gives you a graphical prompt.. a dialog box.. the other is console only
[01:12] <mnoir> !gksudo | salvar
[01:12] <ubotu> salvar: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using "sudo <GUI-application>"
[01:12] <knight> kyncani: how can i make it to search something?
[01:12] <Salvar> Hmm.
[01:12] <theflyingfool> whats the command to see if my direct rendering is enabled
[01:12] <noobcook> tobyr id like to know how u solve ur problem also
[01:12] <Salvar> I was wondering because they seemed to do the same thing.
[01:12] <noobcook> just incase wen i install my driver it doesn't work
[01:12] <tobyr> Has it happened to you too noob?
[01:12] <knight> !thanks | kyncani
[01:12] <ubotu> kyncani: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[01:12] <tobyr> I don't get any error messages
[01:12] <IntuitiveNipple> theflyingfool: glfxinfo
[01:13] <tobyr> Just a black screen
[01:13] <IntuitiveNipple> first 4 lines or os, i think
[01:13] <Slart> Salvar: yes, they do.. but one is console based.. the other gnome based
[01:13] <tobyr> ANd no HD activity
[01:13] <Slart> Salvar: or at least x based
[01:13] <kitche> theflyingfool: glxinfo|grep rendering
[01:13] <kyncani> !ubotu > knight  look at this
[01:13] <Salvar> Alright.
[01:13] <theflyingfool> thanks guys
[01:13] <noobcook> tobyr then it jumps to a console?
[01:13] <tobyr> no
[01:13] <riotkittie> surely there's some error message going on there. read the xorg log ;p
[01:13] <tobyr> it just stays black
[01:13] <Salvar> After I change xorg.conf, do I need to reboot, or just restart gnome?
[01:13] <IntuitiveNipple> theflyingfool: actually, make that "glxinfo"
[01:13] <Crescendo_> Why is sound bad quality when PCM volume is all the way up?  I have to turn it most of the way down to get good loud sound from my speakers
[01:13] <Salvar> Or whatever it is that Ctrl+Alt+Backspace does.
[01:13] <Slart> Salvar: just restart gnome
[01:13] <mnoir> Salvar: just gnome
[01:13] <noobcook> have u tried google?
[01:13] <kkerwin> Hi. Where can I find out about the current status of the ATI fglrx issue; and/or how to fix it?
[01:13] <tobyr> riotkittie where is the xorg log?
[01:13] <tobyr> Yeah I have noobcook
[01:14] <Slart> Salvar: yes.. ctrl+alt+backspace restarts gnome
[01:14] <Salvar> Okay, thanks.
[01:14] <hyperb0lix> Slart: Kills X
[01:14] <IntuitiveNipple> tobyr: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:14] <Salvar> I'll try messing around with it.
[01:14] <tobyr> thanks
[01:14] <tobyr> dont suppose i can read ext3 from windows?
[01:14] <tobyr> lol
[01:14] <kjaer> knight, The circuit software ?
[01:14] <Slart> hyperb0lix, Salvar oh.. yes.. kills X.. correct
[01:14] <tobyr> (dont want to come out of IRC lol
[01:14] <IntuitiveNipple> tobyr: Yes
[01:14] <kkerwin> tobyr: Yes. One sec ...
[01:14] <IntuitiveNipple> there's an ext4 driver
[01:14] <hyperb0lix> Slart: But you're right, it does end up restarting GNOME
[01:14] <kitche> tobyr: fs-driver.org for ext3 driver
[01:14] <Slart> hyperb0lix: so does a lot of things =)
[01:14] <tobyr> f**k me, really?!
[01:14] <Bruco16> tobyr: personally, i had the same non-splash boot, i removed "quiet" and "splash" from the default entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst so poeple could see the booting process is at least alive.
[01:14] <hyperb0lix> :P
[01:14] <knight> kjaer: yah
[01:15] <kkerwin> tobyr: Yeah. And write to it as well, I believe.
[01:15] <Salvar> Can anyone tell me what imwheel is, precisely?
[01:15] <mcquaid> hmm, there is a thread on ubuntuforums on playing the apple keynote.  someone says it successfully played for him using a stream he listed using vlc
[01:15] <mnoir> !language | tobyr
[01:15] <ubotu> tobyr: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:15] <mcquaid> but it failed for me
[01:15] <Crescendo_> Apparently, nvidia-glx is now stable?  It's being removed by my most recent update, how to prevent issues?
[01:15] <tobyr> Hey kitche that link you sent is for Ext2?
[01:15] <knight> kjaer: iv just installed geda but its missing something
[01:15] <mcquaid> anyone else care to try it?  I'm curious if it works for others
[01:15] <tobyr> oh
[01:15] <tobyr> nvm
[01:15] <mcquaid> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1995756#post1995756
[01:15] <kitche> tobyr: same thing ext3 can act like ext2
[01:15] <Slart> !imwheel | Salvar
[01:15] <ubotu> imwheel: program to support non-standard buttons on new mice. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0pre12-7 (edgy), package size 79 kB, installed size 268 kB
[01:15] <JosefK> tobyr: yes, you can
[01:15] <Slart> I have no idea about the specifics
[01:16] <Azoff> hello
[01:16] <tobyr> Right I'll install this
[01:16] <tobyr> Then give my files a read
[01:16] <tobyr> :D
[01:16] <knight> kjaer: i cant find the schematic
[01:16] <JosefK> tobyr: if that link was to ext2fs, ext3 is backwards compatible, it just adds journalling extensions
[01:16] <clayg> i hope beryl works
[01:16] <kjaer> knight, Heard good things about this one http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=18943
[01:16] <L0cKd0wN> ok i followed the instructions you guys gave
[01:16] <L0cKd0wN> i installed the ntfs-3g
[01:16] <L0cKd0wN> but the instructions also tell me to restart
[01:17] <L0cKd0wN> won't i lose all the changes if i do that?
[01:17] <kkerwin> Hi. Where can I find out about the current status of the ATI fglrx issue; and/or how to fix it?
[01:17] <L0cKd0wN> (since the OS isn't actually installed?)
[01:17] <riotkittie> /var/log/Xorg/Xorg.0.log, i think
[01:17] <IntuitiveNipple> L0cKd0wN: i never restarted
[01:17] <kyncani> !bugs | kkerwin
[01:17] <ubotu> kkerwin: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[01:17] <Slart> L0cKd0wN: if running from a live cd... I guess so
[01:17] <Music_Shuffle> L0cKd0wN, uh huh
[01:17] <kkerwin> kyncani: Thanks.
[01:17] <steelb> do i have to do something to make the search work?
[01:17] <kyncani> np
[01:17] <Azoff> I am trying to setup ubuntu with LUKS and have a key for the enctyption in a file (on another encrypted fs), but once I have (created with 'sha256 > /jail/key'), and I restart cryptodisk I get this:
[01:17] <Caca> Is Gconf more of a daemon or just a library for managing settings?
[01:17] <L0cKd0wN> "Mount is denied because the NTFS journal file is unclean"
[01:17] <Azoff>  - the precheck for '/dev/hdb1' failed, skipping
[01:17] <L0cKd0wN> ^^
[01:17] <mcquaid> c'mon could someone try this stream?
[01:17] <matthew> LOckd0wn; just click ctrl alt backspace......
[01:17] <Azoff> what does that mean, and how can I fix it?
[01:17] <mcquaid> vlc rtsp://a2047.v1412b.c1412.g.vq.akamaistream.net/5/2047/1412/1_h264_350/1a1a1ae555c531960166df4dbc3095c327960d7be756b71b49 aa1576e344addb3ead1a497aaedf11/8848125_1_350.mov
[01:18] <hyperb0lix> Caca: It's a database of configuration settings
[01:18] <Kirok> L0cKd0wN: you don't need ntfs-3g if you just want to read an NTFS partition
[01:18] <tobyr> hey guys
[01:18] <tobyr> thanks a lot for that link
[01:18] <Salvar> Ha. I think it works.
[01:18] <tobyr> all install :D:D
[01:18] <Azoff> the same partition works fine when I type the passphrase
[01:18] <L0cKd0wN> Kirok, i just need to back up the data that's still there
[01:18] <Azoff> google didn't return any usefull to me
[01:18] <Salvar> I changed "ZAxisMapping" from "4 5" to "6 7".
[01:18] <Salvar> It appears to work.
[01:18] <L0cKd0wN> i was under the impression the module for ntfs-3g would allow me to do that, im new to linux sry
[01:18] <malt> How can i make sudo password on my account not the same as my password?
[01:19] <Caca> hyperb0lix: Yeah, but say I'm just using ob3 w/ GTK apps strictly and just one depends on Gconf. Will it be running in the background all the time ala a daemon or only be loaded when that one particular app is running?
[01:19] <Slart> mcquaid: didn't work here.. just printed loads of garbage in the console
[01:19] <mnoir> malt - you don't
[01:19] <livingdaylight> gaim is not working for me in windows at all :(
[01:19] <Slart> Salvar: nice
[01:19] <Kirok> L0cKd0wN: have you tried udo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222 ofcourse that might not work if you can't create a folder
[01:19] <tobyr> god dammit
[01:19] <tobyr> I installed that EXT drive thing...
[01:19] <hyperb0lix> Caca: Not sure, but the gnome-settings-daemon might read from gconf - just a conjecture
[01:19] <Salvar> Now, does anyone know if I can get the scroll to be smooth?
[01:19] <L0cKd0wN> one sec
[01:19] <tobyr> And it just asked me if I want to format when I click on it
[01:19] <L0cKd0wN> trying
[01:19] <IntuitiveNipple> L0cKd0wN: Ubuntu comes with a read-only ntfs drive already, but ntfs-3g provides write/read functionality
[01:19] <Caca> mm, just might.
[01:19] <mcquaid> Slart, thx. same here.  but someone on the forums said it worked for him.  I guess I doubt he's using the edgy's version of vlc or ffmpeg
[01:19] <Salvar> It's going by lines, and it's really choppy to me.
[01:19] <Slart> livingdaylight: try miranda then
[01:19] <L0cKd0wN> IntuitiveNipple, it wouldn't let me into the folder
[01:19] <L0cKd0wN> it said i don't have access
[01:20] <L0cKd0wN> errr permission, excuse me
[01:20] <Slart> mcquaid: I'm on edgy, 64bit.. so I'm missing some codes
[01:20] <malt> mnoir: wow thats gay! i don't like giving accounts to sudo with same password.
[01:20] <hyperb0lix> Caca: If I recall correctly, it is always running
[01:20] <IntuitiveNipple> L0cKd0wN: it sounds like the file-system needs a CHKDSK running on it
[01:20] <livingdaylight> Slart, i am now ^^ But disappointed that gaim isn't working in xp for me
[01:20] <malt> so i can't make root pw diff?
[01:20] <mnoir> malt - that is the way sudo works
[01:20] <hyperb0lix> Caca: Something about being able to auto-apply settings for all apps when a single change occurs, therefore it must be in the background
[01:20] <kitche> malt: root and sudo is different
[01:21] <hyperb0lix> Caca: You can check Wikipedia - I'm sure gconf is there
[01:21] <Salvar> Smooth scrolling?
[01:21] <malt> kitche: sudo is basically root though
[01:21] <cafuego> malt: You can. or you can make sudo ask for the root password instead of the suer password. or you can login as root and not be asked for passwords ever.
[01:21] <mnoir> malt - it would serve no purpose for sudo to use other than your password
[01:21] <Slart> Salvar: no idea.. haven't missed it
[01:21] <mcquaid> Slart, on 32bit here.  I have the w32codecs, but afaik vlc doesn't even use those.
[01:21] <marlun> no one who can tell me what (package) I need to create a pdf from a latex file?
[01:21] <kjaer> malt, You can sudo passwd to get a root account, then remove your user from the admin group.
[01:21] <Mikey> how do i defrag?
[01:21] <livingdaylight> Slart, i have xp on my new laptop and i love loading all my favourite linux apps on it. First thing i installed was Firefox and the openoffice.org and Xchat :D
[01:21] <kjaer> marlun, You need tetex
[01:21] <Bruco16> malt: i changed root passwd via rescue
[01:21] <Slart> mcquaid: nope, I think vlc does it's own thing.. for good and bad
[01:21] <hyperb0lix> Mikey: No need, Linux doesn't become fragmented
[01:21] <Salvar> I dislike it.
[01:21] <lotacus> are there any flash plugins for ubunto and FF ?
[01:21] <Salvar> Almost as much as I miss StrokeIt.
[01:21] <cafuego> kjaer: Even if you do that, sudo will still ask for the user password, which would now fail.
[01:21] <_Sean> http://www.ublug.org/ubuntu/twinview/twinview-howto-breezy.html  << Do I need to install anything for that?
[01:21] <Flannel> marlun: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LaTeX
[01:21] <mcquaid> Slart, exactly, so I"m surprised someone on the ubuntu forums says that works for him
[01:21] <tobyr> oh
[01:22] <Bruco16> (and shadow mods)
[01:22] <tobyr> bollox
[01:22] <malt> cafuego: sounds good how would i do that?
[01:22] <matthe1> I need nvidia-glx to work in edgy i did had it working but the edgy distro upgraded and the xorg.conf driver "nvidia" wont work i'm using driver "nv"..........
[01:22] <lotacus> .. for x64
[01:22] <mcquaid> he must have an updated vlc installed or something
[01:22] <killown> linux has support ntfs write?
[01:22] <Kirok> L0cKd0wN: try this go to a terminal and first type cd /mnt then sudo mkdir windrive
[01:22] <kjaer> marlun, tetex-bin probably.
[01:22] <marlun> kjaer, Flannel, thanks!
[01:22] <Slart> livingdaylight: hehe.. gaim will probably be fixed shortly.. they are still working on it
[01:22] <kjaer> killown, yes.
[01:22] <cafuego> malt: 'man sudoers' - check the rootpw option.
[01:22] <tobyr> hey guys im gonna try and fix this myself
[01:22] <hyperb0lix> killown: Yes, ntfs-3g
[01:22] <LiquidNerd_> apt-index-watch <-- What is it?
[01:22] <tobyr> bit busy in here
[01:22] <mnoir> kjaer: that defeats one of the most important management goodnesses about ubuntu
[01:22] <tobyr> cant focus on the lines
[01:22] <tobyr> LOL
[01:22] <Slart> killown: I think so.. with the ntfs-3g package
[01:22] <IntuitiveNipple> lotacus: Yes, Flash 9 beta is available in the multiverse or universe repositories. I forget which. It works well, too
[01:22] <cafuego> malt: note: MAKE SURE A ROOTPASS IS SET FIRST!
[01:22] <kjaer> mnoir, Yes
[01:22] <franx> matthe1: did you try "automatix2" ?
[01:22] <Salvar> Okay, I have another question.
[01:22] <mnoir> !automatix
[01:22] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:22] <Kirok> L0cKd0wN: then Run the Ubuntu Disks Manager. From the system menu bar, choose System | Administration | Disks. In the Disks Manager, find the Hard Disk icon that represents your Windows drive. It is usually /dev/hda. You may see other Hard Disks that you dont recognize, these are virtual devices created by the LiveCD.
[01:22] <_Sean> http://www.ublug.org/ubuntu/twinview/twinview-howto-breezy.html  << Do I need to install anything for that?
[01:22] <Salvar> How do I keep certain partitions from being automounted at startup?
[01:22] <matthe1> franx; no..
[01:22] <franx> hi there does anyone use a tv as a monitor? if so how to?
[01:23] <lotacus> ah ok. i d/l the package but I dont know where to copy the .so file to
[01:23] <Caca> Don't even see an instance of it at the moment at any user level in htop.
[01:23] <kjaer> Salvar, add noauto to the options in fstab
[01:23] <Slart> Salvar: check the fstab.. it's one of the options there
[01:23] <lotacus> I thought maybe there would be a .deb package to make it easier
[01:23] <livingdaylight> Slart, hehe.. shoult i remove GTK+ aswell?
[01:23] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> How do you update system libraries ?
[01:23] <cafuego> malt: Alternatively, you'd be used to it after 2 days, so you could just keep workign and not worry about it.
[01:23] <matthe1> franx should i?
[01:23] <Salvar> Okay, where's fstab?
[01:23] <killown> hybrid, But its  can not crash my partition ntfs?
[01:23] <Mikey> what do i do if my "add/remove" application has crashed?
[01:23] <kjaer> Salvar, /etc/fstab
[01:23] <Slart> livingdaylight: not unless you need the space..who knows you might install something that needs it
[01:23] <Flannel> !flash9 | lotacus, there is.
[01:23] <ubotu> lotacus, there is.: flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[01:23] <revan> mcquaid: where do I find the w32codecs?
[01:23] <lotacus> !backports
[01:23] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[01:23] <Slart> livingdaylight: gaim version current+1 =)
[01:24] <revan> or are you not talking about 32bit color?
[01:24] <franx> matthe1: mnoir seems to think it sux, but it installed my nvidia drivers perfectly
[01:24] <franx> so im not sure
[01:24] <livingdaylight> Slart,  and miranda doesn't need it?
[01:24] <loller> DCC SEND AOWITNAO)WTINAWTOINOWT#INAOWTINAOW#TINAOW#TINTAOINWT
[01:24] <stefg> franx: tv as monitor doesn't work... 525 lines (pal) isn't just enough to be able to read a 8pt Font
[01:24] <franx> im still ubuntu newb
[01:24] <Slart> livingdaylight: I don't think so.. miranda is a windows only application
[01:24] <_Sean> http://www.ublug.org/ubuntu/twinview/twinview-howto-breezy.html  << Do I need to install anything for that? (sorry for spamming)
[01:24] <kjaer> Salvar, format is device \tab place to mount \tab options \tab gibberish \tab gibberish
[01:24] <mcquaid> revan, the repository containing them is down for now, but i just a few posts on this the other day on the forum
[01:24] <mnoir> !worksforme | franx
[01:24] <ubotu> franx: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[01:24] <kyncani> asdfjkahsdfjkha: when updating ubuntu, you get security updates for everything, including libraries
[01:24] <Slart> peer is angry?
[01:24] <Bruco16> lol
[01:24] <Caca> Peer is furious.
[01:24] <_Sean> netsplit?
[01:24] <livingdaylight> Slart, how come i've never heard of miranda before?
[01:24] <Salvar> Where would noauto go?
[01:25] <kitche> !exploit
[01:25] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[01:25] <Slart> livingdaylight: been living under a rock? ;)
[01:25] <bimberi> _Sean: no, exploit
[01:25] <Salvar> Where would noauto go?
[01:25] <mcquaid> revan, just search the forum and you'll find a link to the deb and just manually install the deb.  sudo dpkg -i w32blah.deb
[01:25] <kjaer> Salvar, format is device \tab place to mount \tab options \tab gibberish \tab gibberish
[01:25] <kjaer> Salvar, as an option
[01:25] <Tenri1> I just got $250+ of computer stuff from my friend for $30
[01:25] <revan> alright, thankyou mcquaid
[01:25] <Flannel> livingdaylight: miranda is still windows only, unless Im out of the loop
[01:25] <_Sean> bimberi, do you know if i need to download anything for that?
[01:25] <Slart> Tenri1: he needs more friends? I'll volounteer =)
[01:26] <Tenri1> hehe
[01:26] <matthe1> franx; automatix2 tells me the real driver?>
[01:26] <kjaer> Salvar, Are you following along ?
[01:26] <Caca> Tenri1: None of this equip happens to have a 33/66 turbo button on it, eh?
[01:26] <kingace> ubuntu should have the option to install the same way opensuse does
[01:26] <livingdaylight> Flannel, ahh..is that what it is
[01:26] <Salvar> So, separated by a comma from the other options?
[01:26] <Tenri1> he's moving out of his apartment and selling his stuff for rediculusly low prices
[01:26] <bimberi> _Sean: no, you weren't disconnected, so you're ok
[01:26] <kjaer> Salvar, Exactly.
[01:26] <franx> !whydontyoujustlayitonthetablecosyoupwnmeatlinuxmoron | mnoir
[01:26] <livingdaylight> Flannel, an open-source application for windows only? how bizarre
[01:26] <peterhd> hello folks - i'm having an update problem, from dapper to edgy.  it kinda sorta worked, but has left me with dpkg errors including postfix, postfix-mysql, amavisd-new, courier-imap, courier-maildrop.  i've had a thread on the forums, but not getting anywhere with it.  Any thoughts?
[01:26] <ferrouswheel> Caca: man, they should still have turbo buttons. they're retro
[01:26] <livingdaylight> Slart, i don't know which one to click on now? :|
[01:26] <cafuego> !ops
[01:26] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[01:26] <Flannel> livingdaylight: not really.  theyve been working on a *nix port though.
[01:26] <Tenri1> Caca: huh?
[01:27] <_Sean> lol, I mean the other question
[01:27] <Slart> livingdaylight: eh? which one what?
[01:27] <_Sean> http://www.ublug.org/ubuntu/twinview/twinview-howto-breezy.html  << Do I need to install anything for that?
[01:27] <_Sean> that
[01:27] <Tenri1> Caca: great screen name, by the way.
[01:27] <livingdaylight> Flannel, oh, really? its common that there are opensource applications developed for windows ony?
[01:27] <Caca> Tenri1: Back in the day, computers had 'turbo' buttons to throttle between full and half speed. Some apps would run unnaturally fast at full speed so you'd have to throttle downward.
[01:27] <Seveas> cafuego, ?
[01:27] <livingdaylight> Slart, which miranda download? too much choice
[01:27] <cafuego> Seveas: scroll back a bit, loller [n=^Afterma@d14-69-133-208.try.wideopenwest.com]  would like a ban.
[01:27] <cafuego> Seveas: dcc exploit
[01:27] <Salvar> How do I disable word wrap in gedit?
[01:27] <Caca> Tenri1: Only because my other connection on Freenode has yet to time out and the nick is taken. :P
[01:27] <Slart> livingdaylight: isn't there one with extra everything++
[01:28] <livingdaylight> Slart, there is download and then below it Other download Options
[01:28] <Seveas> cafuego, not automatically k-lined?
[01:28] <kitche> Seveas: nope
[01:28] <Crescendo_> Why is sound bad quality when PCM volume is all the way up?  I have to turn it most of the way down to get good loud sound from my speakers
[01:28] <Seveas> hmm
[01:28] <cafuego> Seveas: Nope, just left the channel.
[01:28] <Tenri1> Caca: no; all new stuff.  A Microsoft wireless desktop set, Sony wireless headphones, and a very nice silver desk lamp
[01:28] <Tenri1> Caca: oh. hehe
[01:28] <livingdaylight> Slart, nope, nothing that says eveything
[01:28] <Enverex> Seveas, loller (n=^Afterma@d14-69-133-208.try.wideopenwest.com) has joined #ubuntu
[01:28] <revan> oh, oops. I'm talking about 32bit color depth in ubuntu. Is that possible?
[01:28] <kitche> Seveas: in #ubuntu-ops there is another bot listed
[01:28] <andycr> hey
[01:28] <Enverex> Ah, you already saw them
[01:28] <facugaich> Hi, I just installed XChat and the users lists no longer shows at the right side of the window, how can I enable it?
[01:28] <Tenri1> Caca: actually, my regular nick is Tenrig
[01:28] <Tenri1> Caca: Tenric*
[01:28] <Mikey> how can i forcequit an app?
[01:29] <Weebit> how long does it take the live cd to boot up?  I tried last night but it never got past the kernel I waited and waited.  Is 10 minutes long enough?
[01:29] <cafuego> Seveas: if you have voice on #freenode, mebbe let 'em know
[01:29] <_Sean> facugaich, just drag it over to the right
[01:29] <Mikey> it crashed
[01:29] <Flannel> livingdaylight: yeah, its pretty common.  I mean, it shouldnt be too hard to compile for *nix, if a nice library is used.
[01:29] <Salvar> How do I disable word wrap in gedit?
[01:29] <Scooter7> Hi guys, earlier today I was here asking for help with X server.   I was told to type 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'.   I did that, and configured X server.   When I was done, I typed 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'.   However,  GDM failed to start.   What went wrong?   Any special settings I need to set when reconfiguring?
[01:29] <Seveas> cafuego, freenode staff knows already :)
[01:29] <andycr> mikey: open a terminal, type xkill, hit enter, then click on the program
[01:29] <facugaich> 4_Sean: I can't find it anywhere
[01:29] <cafuego> ok! :-)
[01:29] <andycr> or click close and wait for a dialog to appear
[01:29] <Tenri1> Caca: my computer setup is getting downright luxurious
[01:29] <b08y> does any one know what bar that is, in the screenshot at the buttom http://gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=50977&file1=50977-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=Aqualook+Emerald
[01:29] <Mikey> andycr thx
[01:29] <andycr> np
[01:30] <clyde> looks like it might be gnomedock
[01:30] <andycr> i believe thats... gosh, google kde dock, forgot the name, sorry
[01:30] <stefg> b08y: loks like kxdocker
[01:30] <_Sean> http://www.ublug.org/ubuntu/twinview/twinview-howto-breezy.html  << Do I need to install anything for that?
[01:30] <andycr> kxdocker
[01:30] <Scooter7> Hi guys, earlier today I was here asking for help with X server.   I was told to type 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'.   I did that, and configured X server.   When I was done, I typed 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'.   However,  GDM failed to start.   What went wrong?   Any special settings I need to set when reconfiguring?
[01:30] <Tenri1> Caca: by far the funniest screen name I've ever seen is our own IntuitiveNipple's
[01:30] <s3k>  irc.efnet.net
[01:30] <Caca> hmm
[01:30] <andycr> question: is ubuntu a good distro for python development, c++ development, and gaming?
[01:30] <b08y> thats gnome, but called kxdocker?
[01:30] <Kirok> facugaich: try checking out settings>preferences>interface>user list - though it should to the right side and just needs to be dragged open
[01:30] <livingdaylight> Slart, download (windows nt, 2000,xp only) ; installer (windows nt, 2000, xp) ; download zip archive (windows 9x, ME) ;
[01:30] <andycr> i tried fedora, but its darn slow and is a memory hog
[01:30] <Flannel> livingdaylight: oh, actually, it seems they did finish the linux version, just not advertised.  link is currently dead though.  no idea.
[01:30] <andycr> looking for a new distro
[01:30] <Slart> livingdaylight: go with the installer.. you get pretty pictures while waiting =)
[01:30] <kingace> andycr: there's no such thing as a good linux distro for gaming
[01:31] <knight> !find ciruit
[01:31] <IntuitiveNipple> Tenri1: pffft
[01:31] <Caca> Good number of IDEs in the repos.
[01:31] <ubotu> Package/file ciruit does not exist in edgy
[01:31] <andycr> kingace: even fedora runs ut2004 and half-life 2 just fine
[01:31] <Scooter7> Hi guys, earlier today I was here asking for help with X server.   I was told to type 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'.   I did that, and configured X server.   When I was done, I typed 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'.   However,  GDM failed to start.   What went wrong?   Any special settings I need to set when reconfiguring?
[01:31] <steelb> Is there anything special I have to do to make the search feature in Nautilus work, like index the hd?
[01:31] <facugaich> Kirok: Oh, there it is! lol I didn't know it was hidden... Thanks both of you
[01:31] <Caca> Scooter7: What display driver are you using? nvidia-glx?
[01:31] <stefg> Scooter7: what video card?
[01:31] <kingace> andycr: but almost all commercial (good) games are primarily developed for windows, whereas linux gets late, shoddy support
[01:32] <IntuitiveNipple> Scooter7: Take a look at the Xorg log file in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:32] <Scooter7> ATI RADEO X850
[01:32] <Scooter7> *radion
[01:32] <andycr> yeah, but wine works fine for me
[01:32] <Tenri1> IntuitiveNipple: I love you. Let's make sweet, sweet digital love.  Or a nice open source app of some kine.
[01:32] <Tenri1> *kind
[01:32] <slop> how do i format a windows slave drive?
[01:32] <kingace> andycr: you must have a bitchin computer
[01:32] <slop> ntfs
[01:32] <kingace> anyway
[01:32] <Caca> Speaking of gaming, anyone else notice that the Alky project resurfaced out of nowhere with a working conversion of the Prey demo?
[01:32] <IntuitiveNipple> oh gogs, its back
[01:32] <andycr> yeah, to an extent
[01:32] <kingace> try xfce over top of regular ubuntu
[01:32] <andycr> but anyway, itll mainly be for 3d development
[01:32] <andycr> ah, for speed?
[01:32] <kingace> its a much faster desktop
[01:32] <andycr> yeah
[01:32] <kingace> yeah
[01:32] <kingace> but u can boot into gdm if you want
[01:32] <andycr> i sometimes use it in fedora for that reason
[01:33] <Tenri1> IntuitiveNipple: Or not...
[01:33] <andycr> nice and responsive
[01:33] <IntuitiveNipple> lol
[01:33] <IntuitiveNipple> i'm going to bed!
[01:33] <Caca> If you're that bent on speed, get a window manager w/ a panel and file manager and strangle yourself in rc's.
[01:33] <Tenri1> IntuitiveNipple: night.
[01:33] <Jeruvy> slop: you use windows.
[01:33] <kingace> andycr: install regular ubuntu and then run sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[01:33] <andycr> ah
[01:33] <andycr> ty
[01:33] <Tenri1> IntuitiveNipple: quick update on my idea I told you about
[01:33] <kingace> and you can boot into both
[01:33] <andycr> and if i want kde, kubuntu-desktop?
[01:33] <IntuitiveNipple> oh yes?
[01:33] <Caca> Well.
[01:33] <mnoir> andycr: yes
[01:33] <andycr> ty
[01:34] <Caca> xubuntu-desktop installs xfce4 w/ Xubuntu's choice apps.
[01:34] <somerville32> Xubuntu rocks! :)
[01:34] <Tenri1> IntuitiveNipple: I talked with a friend and he's going to help me set up a contract meeting with Toshiba
[01:34] <andycr> how would i install ndiswrapper on a system that doesn't have internet? would it be best to find a .deb package for it or to install kernel sources then compile it myself?
[01:34] <Caca> If you just want the DE itself it's gnome-core, kde-core, or xfce4.
[01:34] <Tenri1> IntuitiveNipple: to see how much it might cost to develop
[01:34] <andycr> ah ty
[01:34] <phr34ck> What games are available for ubuntu ?
[01:34] <IntuitiveNipple> Tenri1: that sounds like a good move. make sure you're covering youself with IP (patents, etc) and get an NDA before you go
[01:35] <mnoir> andycr: find the deb and sneaker-net it
[01:35] <Scooter7> IntuitiveNipple: I can't get to my linux files, as I've never managed to boot into Ubuntu nor install it.
[01:35] <Tenri1> IntuitiveNipple: Of course.
[01:35] <andycr> unreal 2004, all the id games i know of, ut203, ut99...
[01:35] <andycr> the deb of which? ndis?
[01:35] <Slart> phr34ck: freeciv, freecraft.. all ID's games.. Enemy Territory, Tremulous.. and plenty more
[01:35] <facugaich> phr34ck: Synaptic -> Games?
[01:35] <andycr> and how do i make sure its the right one for my kernel? uname -r and match it?
[01:35] <Slart> phr34ck: then there's wine/Cedega
[01:35] <IntuitiveNipple> Scooter7: can't you get to a command prompt, or boot from the LiveCD and then read the log files from there?
[01:35] <andycr> yeah wine rocks, i play css and hl2 fine
[01:35] <andycr> very small framerate hit
[01:35] <Slart> phr34ck: that's enables you to crash games in linux.. just like in windows =)
[01:35] <phr34ck> Slart, do you know a small good game to download?
[01:35] <andycr> maybe 10-20%
[01:35] <kitche> !freecraft
[01:35] <ubotu> freecraft: Realtime fantasy strategy game for Unix and X. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.18-2.2 (edgy), package size 664 kB, installed size 1684 kB
[01:36] <Tenri1> Got to go. Later amigos.
[01:36] <Slart> phr34ck: what kind of game? Astro Menace is kind of smallish and niceish
[01:36] <knight> !info xcircuit
[01:36] <ubotu> xcircuit: Draw circuit schematics or almost anything. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.6.24-1 (edgy), package size 491 kB, installed size 1908 kB
[01:36] <IntuitiveNipple> me too, bye
[01:36] <mnoir> andycr: use the http://packages.ubuntu.com/ site to ensure youre getting the right one
[01:36] <phr34ck> It doesn't matter, I need a time killer game.
[01:36] <phr34ck> Even chess is good; p
[01:36] <Scooter7> IntuitiveNipple: That's my prob, I can't boot from the CD because of my X server error
[01:36] <andycr> ah ty! i can finally nuke slowdora
[01:36] <Kirok> phr34ck: try ATC :) - Console Based AirTraffic control
[01:36] <jackson3246> is there any way to mount my hard drive in qemu?
[01:36] <franx> !nvidia
[01:36] <andycr> also
[01:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:37] <IntuitiveNipple> Scooter7: you should be able to boot to a cmd prompt without X.
[01:37] <andycr> does top give accurate memory usage info?
[01:37] <Slart> phr34ck: http://gaming.gwos.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=219&Itemid=1
[01:37] <dumbintel> hey guys, I have 6.10 and I wanted to know if there was a program to help me connect to wireless networks like the windows one or atleast something the lets me choose amongst broadcasted ssids
[01:37] <andycr> because according to it, fedora uses 512mb on bootup
[01:37] <Scooter7> IntuitiveNipple: Right, but I'm not sure how to access the files... I'm a total newb to that sort of thing >_<
[01:37] <riotkittie> dumbintel: try network-manager-gnome
[01:37] <andycr> dumbintel: google opensuse 10.2 network management, should get you the name of it
[01:37] <andycr> there you go, thats it
[01:37] <riotkittie> ;)
[01:38] <Salvar> Does anyone know how to customize cursors?
[01:38] <Slart> phr34ck: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Native_Games there 's  a whole list.. categorized and all
[01:38] <Salvar> I have my own that aren't in the form of a theme--they're in .cur and .ani files.
[01:38] <andycr> Salvar: download a theme, put it in ~/.icons, and choose it in mouse properties
[01:38] <stefg> !games
[01:38] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[01:38] <dumbintel> i installed it but i don't see it anywhere
[01:38] <andycr> oh, i dont know how to make them no
[01:38] <Slart> Salvar: I think there's a little customization in preferences, mouse.. but only size and shadow  I think
[01:38] <Salvar> Yeah, I'm talking about from cursor files.
[01:38] <knight> !circuit
[01:38] <phr34ck> I just downloaded 3dchess ... where does it go?
[01:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about circuit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:38] <Salvar> Not whole themes.
[01:39] <phr34ck> sudo apt-get install 3dchess
[01:39] <riotkittie> installed what - nmg ?
[01:39] <andycr> you can make bitmapped cursors, but theyre in x format, dont know how to make them, but there are some on gnome/kde-look
[01:39] <tobyr> Hey guys
[01:39] <andycr> *they are in a format x takes
[01:39] <tobyr> I managed to copy my xorg config/logs to windows
[01:39] <jackson3246> is there any way to mount my hard drive in qemu?
[01:39] <tobyr> Is there a pastebin I can use to put them up?
[01:39] <riotkittie> !pastebin
[01:39] <stefg> tobyr: /TOPIC
[01:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:39] <andycr> http://rafb.net/paste/
[01:39] <andycr> nm
[01:39] <Kirok> jackson3246: you can do it with an image see if http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Qemu is of any help
[01:39] <andycr> lol
[01:39] <tobyr> pj
[01:40] <tobyr> oh, doh
[01:40] <dumbintel> how can i run the network manager from terminal?
[01:40] <knight> !upgrade
[01:40] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:40] <jackson3246> kirok: thanks
[01:40] <Slart> jackson3246: or you can add a directory.. there are tutorials for this.. I don't remember the specifics
[01:41] <jackson3246> wait what did someone just tell me?
[01:41] <jackson3246> about adding folders?
[01:41] <riotkittie> nm-applet
[01:41] <Flannel> jackson3246: adding folders? mkdir?
[01:41] <Slart> jackson3246: or you can add a directory.. there are tutorials for this.. I don't remember the specifics
[01:41] <Flannel> oh, qemu
[01:41] <Slart> but you can add a directory from linux as a drive in qemu
[01:41] <jackson3246> lol
[01:41] <jackson3246> yeeeah
[01:41] <tobyr> Hey guys
[01:41] <jackson3246> all right I'll look that up then, Slart
[01:41] <tobyr> I used apt-get to update nvidia drivers
[01:41] <jamesb2147> i need to know how to get connected using a dwl-g122 usb adapter from dlink in ubuntu.  i THINK it uses the marvell libertas chipset
[01:41] <tobyr> Now X wo't start
[01:41] <tobyr> This is my log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1124/
[01:41] <jackson3246> I'm guessing it's not as easy as doing -hda or -cdrom
[01:42] <tobyr> Anyone got any ideas?
[01:42] <Scooter7> So, could someone tell me how to access the X Server log through the terminal?
[01:42] <kcinna> hey all
[01:42] <knight> how to get ubuntu edgy cds?
[01:42] <kitche> Scooter7: nano /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:42] <Slart> Scooter7: less /var/log/xorg.log or something like that?
[01:42] <kcinna> i went through the wiki and still can't get NAT to work with azureus used the iptables command for ubuntu and everything
[01:43] <clearzen> So earlier I broke my ubuntu system by accidentallychanging the permissions of all my files to 0777. Anyway I have root access again but whenever I try to bring up a interface as root it tells me SIOCSIFFLAG : permission denied. Any ideas why?
[01:43] <Scooter7> alright, thanks everyone ;)
[01:43] <Slart> Scooter7: something like that = add the ".0" =)
[01:43] <riotkittie> Scooter7: more /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:43] <tobyr> I dont see any errors in that log file?
[01:43] <tobyr> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1125/
[01:43] <Scooter7> k
[01:43] <riotkittie> oh im slow.
[01:43] <tobyr> This is my xorg.conf
[01:43] <mnoir> riotkittie: less is better, most is best
[01:43] <stefg> tobyr: your log is healthy
[01:43] <tobyr> X isn't booting though
[01:43] <tobyr> Just a black screen
[01:44] <Slart> tobyr: was that the latest log file?
[01:44] <jamesb2147> anybody know about wireless adapter support?
[01:44] <Slart> tobyr: I don't see any errors either
[01:44] <tobyr> Yep should be
[01:44] <juano_> tobyr: sec ill check it
[01:44] <tobyr> I went through the xorg config tool again, that must be that xorg.conf
[01:44] <LookTj> how many of you complianed about nvidia and x.org today?
[01:44] <tobyr> sweet I can get into my ext3 partition from windows now as well :D
[01:45] <stefg> tobyr: have you managed to configure your X to 1162x563 in 17 colours at 142 Hz refresh, so your monitor is deciding not to sync?
[01:45] <jamesb2147> wireless...?  anyone...?
[01:45] <Scooter7> LookTj: a lot of people :P
[01:45] <juano_> tobyr: X wont boot at all?
[01:45] <tobyr> Nope just a black screen
[01:45] <tobyr> I get the ubuntu logo with the orange progbar
[01:46] <tobyr> then blacness
[01:46] <stefg> tobyr: whats youzr display?
[01:46] <LookTj> it's very easy to fix
[01:46] <kitche> LookTj: the only problem I run into with nvidia is that it can't load the nvidia driver
[01:46] <tobyr> 1024x760 toshiba panel
[01:46] <clearzen> jamesb2147: what type of card do you have?
[01:46] <tobyr> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1126/
[01:46] <tobyr> This is my xorg.conf before I ran the config tool
[01:46] <jamesb2147> dwl-g122 rev. d2.  i believe it is a marvell libertas chipset
[01:47] <LookTj> does this link help newbs at all
[01:47] <LookTj> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1993792&postcount=8
[01:47] <juano_> tobyr: i got one more line than you under Driver "nvidia", which is                BusID		"PCI:1:0:0"
[01:47] <juano_> tobyr: BusID		"PCI:1:0:0"
[01:47] <tobyr> Oh and if this helps I followed ALL steps from here: http://lunapark6.com/?p=2501
[01:47] <tobyr> Hmmm, I'm running a laptop, would that matter?
[01:48] <livingdaylight> Slart, Miranda is a nice littel application actually?
[01:48] <livingdaylight> Slart, actually!!!
[01:48] <Slart> livingdaylight: of course =)
[01:48] <Kirok> tobyr: I don't think so I have a laptop with an Nvidia card and has the PCI line
[01:48] <Slart> livingdaylight: I only recommend nice little applications =)
[01:48] <stefg> tobyr: i'm just guessing, but it could be a DPMS related problem. the monitor/panel isn't reporting backmits correct abilities, so X gets confused and the monitor is receiving a signal it can not handle and turns black because of that
[01:48] <tobyr> hmmm, I'n not sure, there's no hard drive activity and I can't force out of X back to bash
[01:48] <clearzen> jamesb2147: I think you will need to use ndiswrapper for that card
[01:49] <tobyr> I'm really new to this malarky
[01:49] <Slart> livingdaylight: it's modular too so you can install another message reading module if you want more or less functionality.. and lots of other things
[01:49] <mnoir> tobyr: do you have your other virtual terminals?
[01:49] <archangelpetro> has anyone tried getting second life to work with amd64 ubuntu?
[01:49] <juano_> tobyr: you could try adding the PCI line
[01:49] <kitche> LookTj: that's only if you use that package repo
[01:49] <tobyr> can I add it from windows?
[01:49] <david_> hmm guys
[01:49] <livingdaylight> Slart, another message reading module?
[01:49] <david_> im having some problems
[01:50] <juano_> tobyr: if you can open xorg.conf, you could try it
[01:50] <clearzen> jamesb2147: You will have to install fakeroot to get it to work too
[01:50] <clearzen> sudo apt-get install debhelper build-essential fakeroot linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[01:50] <tobyr> I have the ext3 drivers, just dont want to screw the whole file up with windows formatting
[01:50] <noobcook> for some reason i cant access my NTFS partition
[01:50] <noobcook> any ideas?
[01:50] <tobyr> So I add BusID		"PCI:1:0:0"
[01:50] <tobyr> Those squares are just tabs right
[01:50] <Kirok> noobcook: have you tried to mount it etc
[01:50] <Slart> livingdaylight: yes.. the module that's responsible for showing the chat window to you.. you can download other ones.. they give you other options for history.. some have other layouts etc etc...
[01:50] <noobcook> kirok i think i mounted it
[01:50] <kitche> tobyr: you sure that's your busid for your card?
[01:50] <stefg> !fuse | noobcook
[01:50] <juano_> tobyr: yes, separate BUSID from "PCI.."
[01:50] <ubotu> noobcook: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[01:50] <mnoir> !ntfs | noobcook you looked at this?
[01:50] <ubotu> noobcook you looked at this?: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:50] <tobyr> I dont see why I have wacom stuff in there too :/
[01:50] <QRZ`> Hello
[01:50] <cokeslut> hello
[01:50] <CyberCod> Hello everyone
[01:51] <noobcook> yeh i have
[01:51] <noobcook> hangon im gona try remount it
[01:51] <kitche> tobyr: that's how ubuntu is setup
[01:51] <Slart> livingdaylight: kind of like plugins for firefox.. but they have larger impact on how the program works
[01:51] <livingdaylight> Slart, bit like themes?
[01:51] <Kirok> nookcook: okay well if you have a directory to mount it too try sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[01:51] <stefg> tobyr: that's just a silly ubuntu-default which doesn't affect anything
[01:51] <livingdaylight> Slart, ok
[01:51] <Slart> livingdaylight: yes.. but they change more than just looks
[01:51] <tobyr> right
[01:51] <tobyr> i've used fedora core and mandrake before
[01:51] <CyberCod> Anyone know why the Debian branch of the Ubuntu Menu Bar only seems to work for users that are added after install, and not for the default user?
[01:51] <livingdaylight> Slart, oooh, exciting. Under options, yea?
[01:52] <tobyr> and i've had loads of problems installing nvidia stuff on there
[01:52] <noobcook> mount: /dev/hdd2 already mounted or win busy
[01:52] <noobcook> but lol
[01:52] <noobcook> its not
[01:52] <tobyr> first program i learned using linux was vi
[01:52] <tobyr> LOl
[01:52] <noobcook> coz i double click on win and nothing shows
[01:52] <Slart> livingdaylight: I think so.. it's been a while.. but I think they are called plugins
[01:52] <Kirok> nookcook: if not try sudo mkdir /media/windows and then try it - then if it works manually you can set it up to mount automatically everytime you boot
[01:52] <mnoir> CyberCod: not so on my systems
[01:52] <tobyr> Shit I had a web article on how to mount NTFS
[01:52] <juano_> noobcook: sudo mkdir /media/windows, then, gksudo gedit /etc/fstab, then add this line at the end: /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    auto,ro,exec,users,dmask=000,fmask=111,nls=utf8  0       0, then sudo mount -a
[01:52] <Slart> livingdaylight: and there are many many plugins available on their site
[01:52] <tobyr> but its on my linux partition that doesnt work LOL
[01:52] <kitche> !language|tobyr
[01:52] <ubotu> tobyr: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:52] <stefg> !fuse | tobyr
[01:52] <tobyr> Sorry
[01:52] <ubotu> tobyr: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[01:52] <dumbintel> should my ssid be displayed or do I have to type it in?
[01:53] <brianski> anyone know how this can be the case?
[01:53] <brianski> http://pastebin.ca/312578
[01:53] <Kirok> noobcook: try this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_manually.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only - it should work if you know the partition number
[01:53] <tobyr> dumbintel you mean for your wireless adaptor?
[01:53] <dumbintel> yes
[01:53] <tobyr> I had to type mine in when I was setting itup
[01:53] <tobyr> just type it in manually and give it a minute, should work
[01:53] <tobyr> Thats what I did
[01:53] <cokeslut> secret
[01:53] <mnoir> brianski: use fuser to find out who is in there
[01:53] <juano_> noobcook: you should install ntfs-3g from repos too, and change ntfs in that line to ntfs-3g to write
[01:53] <dumbintel> so if i go out to my campus i wont be able to see the available networks
[01:54] <ucordes> when i restart my xserver (with ctrl+alt+backspace), switch to ttys or try to restart, my system freezes into a strange coloured screen. i am using fglrx for my x700 mobility vga and i'm running edgy. how can i solve this?
[01:54] <noobcook> i installed ntfs 3g already
[01:54] <brianski> mnoir: wouldn't a user who is in there show in lsof for the current directory then?
[01:54] <noobcook> oh the line in fstab?
[01:54] <Enverex> What would cause bash scripts to execute wrongly? Errors like "AVERMEDIA-Linux-A828-0.03-beta.sh: 24: [[: not found" when it works fine on other distros like Gentoo (like it's reading the lines wrongly)
[01:54] <tobyr> all of my problems started when I did this: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[01:54] <juano_> noobcook: yes, change ntfs to ntfs-3g
[01:54] <ucordes> noobcook: pastebin your fstab
[01:54] <mnoir> brianski: maybe - fuser is just one more tool in the bag
[01:54] <kitche> Enverex: /bin/sh is symlinked to dash
[01:54] <noobcook> whats a good pastebin site
[01:55] <stefg> ucordes: by avoiding ati under linux, the drivers are buggy as hell, and closed source, so nobody ca fix he bugs except ATi
[01:55] <dumbintel> also do I have to use wpa_supplicant if i want to use wpa?
[01:55] <juano_> !paste | noobcook
[01:55] <ubotu> noobcook: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[01:55] <ucordes> noobcook: see motd
[01:55] <mnoir> brianski: fuser has a point of view more suited to your question
[01:55] <riotkittie> tobyr: have you tried teh automatic reconfig ?
[01:55] <Enverex> kitche, er, why?
[01:55] <brianski> mnoir: no output from fuser either.. :(
[01:55] <tobyr> yeah but i dont understand some of the things its asking me
[01:55] <ucordes> stefg: ever heard of my problem or a similar one?
[01:55] <mnoir> brianski: that is a mystery
[01:55] <ucordes> !paste | noobcook
[01:55] <ubotu> noobcook: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[01:55] <juano_> tobyr: you could try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:56] <kupesoft> What
[01:56] <kupesoft> What's the good ubuntu laptop?
[01:56] <tobyr> I've done that
[01:56] <stefg> ucordes: i'm wise enough not to touch any Ati with a 10" pole
[01:56] <juano_> tobyr: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:56] <kupesoft> IBM ThinkPad?
[01:56] <juano_> tobyr: oh
[01:56] <tobyr> I dont understand some of the stuff it asks me
[01:56] <kitche> Enverex: because it is there's a good thing about it online if you look around you can make it symlinked to bash if you wish
[01:56] <noobcook> ucordes: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1127/
[01:56] <tobyr> Its still a black screen
[01:56] <mnoir> brianski: what happens if you do a controlled shutdown and startup?
[01:56] <ucordes> stefg: what are you using instead?
[01:56] <juano_> tobyr: and retry installing nvidia drivers from repos?
[01:56] <tobyr> hmmm
[01:56] <brianski> mnoir, trying to avoid that
[01:56] <brianski> we'll see
[01:56] <Enverex> kitche, hrmm.. I tried "sudo bash blah.sh" and got pretty much the same thing though
[01:56] <tobyr> im not good in bash lol
[01:57] <juano_> noobcook: did you see my instructions for ntfs mounting?
[01:57] <mnoir> brianski: i am out of more gentle ideas :)
[01:57] <noobcook> yeh i did juano_
[01:57] <noobcook> i thoguht i had it done already
[01:57] <brianski> mnoir: yea
[01:57] <tobyr> juano I did
[01:57] <brianski> the time has come for drastic measures
[01:57] <tobyr> It just tells me I have the newest drivers
[01:57] <Kirok> noobcook: try replacing the last line with /dev/hdd1    /win ntfs  nls=utf8,umask=0222 0    0 - assuming you have a directory called win created
[01:57] <stefg> ucordes: i /should/ use intel for open-source drivers, but i /do/ use nvidia for performance, even if the drivers are sometimes vulnerable
[01:57] <noobcook> my harddrive is on /dev/hdd2 for windows
[01:57] <mnoir> brianski: pls do report back....
[01:57] <jamesb2147> clearzen: thank you VERY much
[01:58] <juano_> noobcook: sudo mkdir /media/windows, then, gksudo gedit /etc/fstab, then add this line at the end: /dev/hdd2       /media/windows  ntfs    auto,ro,exec,users,dmask=000,fmask=111,nls=utf8  0       0, then sudo mount -a
[01:58] <juano_> noobcook: ntfs-3g that would be
[01:58] <noobcook> hangon
[01:58] <noobcook> ok
[01:58] <Kirok> noobcook: hmm well the file identifies /dev/hdd2 it as a swap partition
[01:59] <brianski> mnoir: oh, i will :)
[01:59] <noobcook> sorry my mistake
[01:59] <mnoir> :)
[01:59] <noobcook> its hdd1
[01:59] <tobyr> ok I'm going to delete these logs and try and run X again
[01:59] <juano_> noobcook: do what i told you instead of hdd2 do hdd1
[01:59] <tobyr> Just to make sure I'm getting fresh logs
[01:59] <noobcook> k juano_
[02:00] <peterhd> hello folks - i'm having an update problem, from dapper to edgy. it kinda sorta worked, but has left me with dpkg errors including postfix, postfix-mysql, amavisd-new, courier-imap, courier-maildrop. i've had a thread on the forums, but not getting anywhere with it. Any thoughts?
[02:00] <juano_> noobcook: your win partition will be mounted at /media/windows
[02:00] <noobcook> ok
[02:01] <noobcook> so how do i access it now?
[02:01] <juano_> noobcook: cd /media/windows
[02:01] <Kirok> noobcook: there should be a link to it on your desktop when you restart or go into the file /media/windows
[02:02] <tobyr> how do you create links to mounted partitions?
[02:02] <tobyr> one of my friends in work said you can add a windows drive so it appears as a link on the desktop
[02:02] <tobyr> :s
[02:02] <noobcook> alright
[02:02] <Kirok> noobcook: you might need to type sudo umount-a before the mounts in the fstab file mount
[02:02] <noobcook> it says [mntent] : line 11 in /etc/fstab is bad
[02:03] <jackson3246> does anyone know of an effective way of accessing host filesystems under qemu? I tried connecting to ftp://10.0.2.2/ in qemu'd Windows XP but it says it can't connect
[02:03] <mnoir> tobyr: if it is in places, just drag it to your desktop
[02:03] <juano_> noobcook: /dev/hdd1       /media/windows  ntfs-3g    auto,ro,exec,users,dmask=000,fmask=111,nls=utf8  0       0
[02:03] <juano_> noobcook: that should be your line
[02:03] <Kirok> noobcook: try replacing it with dev/hdd1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222 0 0
[02:03] <veeyawn> Anyone able to help me out with a little wifi problem?
[02:04] <noobcook> kirok are u sure
[02:04] <juano_> noobcook: /dev/hdd1       /media/windows  ntfs-3g    auto,rw,exec,users,dmask=000,fmask=111,nls=utf8  0       0  --->this one to RW
[02:04] <noobcook> k
[02:04] <kupesoft> What laptops are you people having no trouble using with ubuntu, I'm in the market to buy
[02:04] <Kirok> noobcook: sorry try /dev/hdd1    /media/windows ntfs  nls=utf8,umask=0222 0    0
[02:04] <noobcook> juano_ david@david-desktop:~$ sudo mount -a
[02:04] <noobcook> mount: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs-3g'
[02:04] <Spaghetti_Knife> Hi, is there an Ubuntu application that can open rar files?
[02:05] <Spaghetti_Knife> Archive manager doesn't work on them.
[02:05] <juano_> noobcook: you didnt install ntfs-3g
[02:05] <noobcook> i so did
[02:05] <noobcook> :\
[02:05] <mnoir> Spaghetti_Knife: do you have unrar installed?
[02:05] <noobcook> !ntfs-3g
[02:05] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[02:05] <juano_> noobcook: hmm.. from repos?>
[02:05] <Spaghetti_Knife> I don't know...
[02:05] <Kirok> noobcook: do you need to write to NTFS if not use mine
[02:05] <noobcook> apt-get
[02:05] <noobcook> yeh i need to write
[02:05] <noobcook> i need to fix boot files
[02:05] <noobcook> lol
[02:05] <shr3ya5> that ntfs thing seems cool
[02:05] <Enverex> What would I need to install to stop this from happening?
[02:05] <Enverex> make -C /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/source O=/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/build SUBDIRS=`pwd`
[02:05] <Enverex> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/source: No such file or directory. Stop.
[02:05] <mnoir> Spaghetti_Knife: that is the util that opens them
[02:05] <juano_> noobcook: use synaptic, search for ntfs-3g, install from there
[02:06] <facugaich> I have an AMD Athlon but the Kernel is 386, should I change to K7?
[02:06] <Spaghetti_Knife> mnoir: Do I find it on Add/Remove?
[02:06] <Valmarko> I decided to run firefox from cli. Well, it runs Firefox :)  But...I get strange messages from the terminal just before Firefox opens : X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168. What does it means ?
[02:06] <Spaghetti_Knife> mnoir: Or Synaptic?
[02:06] <CyberCod> anyone here use avast antivirus on ubuntu?
[02:06] <mnoir> Spaghetti_Knife: you should but i use synaptic to manage packages
[02:06] <Kirok> noobcook: if you need to write then try /dev/hdd1    /media/windows    ntfs-3g    defaults,locale=en_US.utf8    0    0
[02:06] <Slart> Enverex: what are you trying to compile?
[02:07] <Enverex> Slart, A828 DVB-T card driver
[02:07] <mnoir> !info unrar
[02:07] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (edgy), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[02:07] <Kirok> noobcook: then after that type sudo umount -a && sudo mount -a
[02:07] <Slart> Enverex: it looks like you need kernel source or headers
[02:07] <Enverex> Slart, They are both installed... apparently
[02:07] <mnoir> Spaghetti_Knife: there is also rar if you want to make them
[02:08] <Spaghetti_Knife> I found it.
[02:08] <Slart> Enverex: I'm a real newb at this.... so I'm just guessing
[02:08] <Spaghetti_Knife> Thanks!
[02:08] <mnoir> Spaghetti_Knife: :)
[02:08] <Nintendud> I never want to use the ext3 filesystem again. I don't think any FS has an excuse for eating up 15 gigs for no reason at a random point in time.
[02:08] <mnoir> Spaghetti_Knife: dont thank until it works :)
[02:08] <noobcook> hmm
[02:08] <steelb> whats a good prog for making audio
[02:08] <Slart> Enverex: hmm.. are you compiling it yourself? or using apt to build it?
[02:08] <noobcook> ill install 3g first then see
[02:08] <kitche> Nintendud: linux has 5% reserved for root
[02:08] <noobcook> beacuse aparently its not installed
[02:08] <Nintendud> kitche: I know this
[02:08] <steelb> whats a good program for making audio DVDs?
[02:08] <Slart> steelb: audiocity
[02:08] <Enverex> Slart, Myself as it's a mess
[02:08] <juano_> noobcook: did you install ntfs-3g from synaptic?
[02:08] <Nintendud> kitche: but, this 15 gig loss happened wayyyy after the format
[02:09] <Nintendud> I just began losing a gig a second or so until I lost 15 gigs
[02:09] <mnoir> Nintendud: tell us  how you really feel about the standard fs for linux....
[02:09] <Slart> Enverex: and there are no build instructions included?
[02:09] <noobcook> its installing now
[02:09] <juano_> noobcook: thats the first step
[02:09] <noobcook> done
[02:09] <Tox> is there any program to learn English or British English in ubuntu/kubuntu ?
[02:09] <Enverex> Slart, no, it's version 0.03 beta =/
[02:09] <Nintendud> mnoir: well, since I've lost 25 gigs for no reason, whereas reiserfs hasn't lost anything, that's just plain crazy ;p
[02:09] <juano_> noobcook: /dev/hdd1       /media/windows  ntfs-3g    auto,rw,exec,users,dmask=000,fmask=111,nls=utf8  0       0
[02:09] <Nintendud> I'll probably try XFS in the future
[02:09] <Slart> Enverex: hehe.. ouch.. it's doesn't get any more beta than that =/
[02:09] <noobcook> k
[02:09] <juano_> noobcook: sudo mount -a
[02:09] <kitche> Nintendud: well don't blame it on a fs it's probably a program running on your computer or even lost+found is probably doing it
[02:10] <Nintendud> kitche: lost+found is empty
[02:10] <Nintendud> and as for a "program", I've rebooted, and all the total files on there add up to what is read
[02:10] <mnoir> Nintendud: whatever makes you happy - do you really think that ext3 is buggy??
[02:10] <noobcook> done
[02:10] <noobcook> sudo mount -a was a success
[02:10] <juano_> noobcook: ok, cd /media/windows
[02:10] <Nintendud> I think that someone has some explaining to do x_x
[02:10] <noobcook> ye
[02:10] <Slart> Enverex: well.. I wish I could help you.. see if there are any forums or something.. someone must know =)
[02:10] <noobcook> juano_ thanks heaps
[02:10] <Nintendud> I mean, if it really is the 5% allocated, why did it suddenly pop up randomly?
[02:10] <noobcook> lol
[02:10] <noobcook> =)
[02:10] <Nintendud> ;p
[02:11] <noobcook> how where does it put a shortcut in gui mode?
[02:11] <kitche> Nintendud: how big is your partition?
[02:11] <Enverex> Slart, already checked. At least it compiled on Gentoo but then I was on the wrong arch, heh
[02:11] <mnoir> ninno doubt but blaming a stable building block might delay finding the real problem
[02:11] <juano_> noobcook: :)
[02:11] <Nintendud> kitche: it's a 300 gig drive.. let me see what that translates to...
[02:11] <juano_> noobcook: its in storage media
[02:11] <tuxvix> Hello
[02:11] <juano_> noobcook: computer
[02:11] <noobcook> l
[02:11] <noobcook> k
[02:11] <mzuverink> anyone know where knoppix gets the .deb for start up ans shut down?  Its called space sound I believe.
[02:11] <tuxvix> What is the best ubuntu program for video/call (with webcam/mic). ??
[02:11] <noobcook> erm juano_ its not in Computer
[02:11] <ucordes> noobcook: may i ask what your problem was?
[02:11] <Slart> Enverex: hehe
[02:11] <mzuverink> The .deb for its sounds
[02:11] <Nintendud> partition is 275 gigs (4.4 gigs less than Reiserfs partition on a similar drive)
[02:11] <stefg> mzuverink: this is #ubuntu, not #knoppix
[02:12] <crimsun> mzuverink: (you could just pull them from a loopback-mounted knoppix iso)
[02:12] <juano_> noobcook: desktop?
[02:12] <noobcook> ucordes i didnt have ntfs-3g installed properly hehe
[02:12] <ucordes> noobcook: why didn't it want to mount?
[02:12] <noobcook> its not on desktop
[02:12] <FliG> Ok well no one will help me on the forums so could someone help me here? with my sound, i can hear people but they cant hear me
[02:12] <ucordes> oh that's lol
[02:12] <FliG> whys that?
[02:12] <Nintendud> partition is 275 gigs (4.4 gigs less than Reiserfs partition on a similar drive) <-- kitche ;p
[02:12] <noobcook> whats the command to copy a shortcut ?
[02:12] <Nintendud> (similar = same exact type, Seagate, but 8 meg cache)
[02:12] <Slart> FliG: I would guess your microphone isn't setup correctly
[02:12] <tuxvix> any one?
[02:13] <ucordes> noobcook: cp i guess
[02:13] <FliG> ive played with all my settings
[02:13] <FliG> nothing works
[02:13] <mzuverink> stefg, thanks for stating the obious, I am looking for a location of the deb for its start up sounds
[02:13] <noobcook> cp would take the dir wouldn't it
[02:13] <Enverex> What would cause bash scripts to execute wrongly? Errors like "AVERMEDIA-Linux-A828-0.03-beta.sh: 24: [[: not found" when it works fine on other distros like Gentoo (like it's reading the lines wrongly)
[02:13] <Nintendud> kitche: so, it's that size, it SHOULD have 24.9 gigs free, but it reads 10.9 ;p
[02:13] <Slart> FliG: you can start by telling me what software you're using..
[02:13] <Nintendud> and I began losing space randomly about two weeks ago
[02:13] <juano_> noobcook: ln something /media/windows
[02:13] <Nintendud> so it didn't happen right after the format
[02:13] <mzuverink> crimsun, thanks, Ill try that
[02:14] <Nintendud> fairly odd
[02:14] <juano_> noobcook: ln /home/user/Desktop /windows/media
[02:14] <tobyr> well i dont know what the fucks' going on
[02:14] <stefg> !language | tobyr
[02:14] <ubotu> tobyr: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:14] <noobcook> umm
[02:15] <FliG> Slart i use regular ubuntu
[02:15] <juano_> noobcook: weird, should be on desktop
[02:15] <mvfeinstein> I have a media keyboard and I am working if there is a way to make the system recognize a key that it doesnt right now...
[02:15] <noobcook> ln: `/media/windows': hard link not allowed for directory
[02:15] <kitche> Nintendud: unless your logs are growing in size or it might be due to the packages see how much space that they take up
[02:15] <Slart> FliG: ok.. not to be a smartass here.. but you're hearing voices when using regular ubuntu.. but they don'thear you.. is it the neighbours? ;)
[02:15] <juano_> noobcook: try sudo umount -a, then sudo mount -a
[02:16] <Nintendud> kitche: hmm? packages? this isn't a root drive
[02:16] <tobyr> Right I just booted up again but it still only loads a black screen when I type startx, and then crashes
[02:16] <Nintendud> er, root partition, even
[02:16] <tobyr> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1132/
[02:16] <FliG> I use a program called Teamspeak
[02:16] <tobyr> This is the log it generated
[02:16] <tobyr> I really dont see why its doing this
[02:16] <FliG> I use a program called teamspeak, its weird cause i can hear people but they cant hear me
[02:16] <juano_> noobcook: it should appear in computer, else try restarting X or something
[02:16] <Slart> FliG: ah =)... teamspeak... use that myself... teamspeak uses the older sound sysstem
[02:16] <Slart> FliG: called oss
[02:16] <toulouse-sleepin> flig: get a microphone
[02:16] <kitche> Nintendud: ah what is the drive for?
[02:16] <ucordes> mvfeinstein: there are some medie keyboard settings that come with ubuntu. see system, settings, keyboard
[02:17] <Nintendud> kitche: downloads, basically.
[02:17] <Nintendud> it's one of my download partitions
[02:17] <Nintendud> I collect video game music
[02:17] <Nintendud> :)
[02:17] <toulouse-sleepin> lol
[02:17] <tolldog> I have a quick question, wireless support, my broadcom 4311 is giving me fits with wep/wpa, if I buy a card, what do you suggest
[02:17] <Nintendud> and rip music from games that lack OSTs
[02:17] <Slart> FliG: ubuntu mainly uses alsa for sound. Have you tried running only teamspeak.. no music, no games etc in teh background.. does that make it work?
[02:17] <noobcook> meh its probs something im overlooking
[02:17] <FliG> Ive tryed and nothing works
[02:17] <noobcook> juano_ while i have u how do i install ati drivers
[02:17] <Nintendud> but anyway, it doesn't have anything written by root on it, but even if it does, it's irrelevant
[02:18] <juano_> !ati | noobcook
[02:18] <ubotu> noobcook: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:18] <FliG> If it matters i have onbord sound and i have an asus MB
[02:18] <tobyr> Anyone got any ideas why this isn't booting X but just hanging on a black screen? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1132/
[02:18] <Nintendud> all I know is that in one day, in a few hours, I went from 25 gigs free to 10 gigs free without writing anything to the drive ;p
[02:18] <Nintendud> well, technically something was writing to the drive, but it was writing on allocated space, so the space used on the partition never increased
[02:18] <mvfeinstein> ucordes I have already been through all of those and did not see an option for "shuffle"
[02:18] <nighthawk2> what is X?
[02:18] <noobcook> ty
[02:18] <mag_> hey can you help me with samba ? "ACL's" ? please help me !
[02:18] <Slart> FliG: that shouldn't matter... .You said you've tried everything.. you've been messing with the volume controls, right?
[02:19] <hendrickvp> any ideas on getting the imagick package installed? anyone?
[02:19] <kitche> Nintendud: well I figured for 300 gig drive 15 gigs would go to root so I would say something you have might be using your space without you knowing it
[02:19] <pluto> h
[02:19] <Nintendud> kitche: I don't see why it would suddenly, in one day, be like "boom. 15 gigs allocated to root"
[02:20] <Nintendud> and there isn't anything using the space ;p
[02:20] <tobyr> i think its easier if i reinstall  :( :(
[02:20] <Nintendud> I've tallied the space already, folder by folder
[02:20] <Ropechoborra> !mp3
[02:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:20] <Nintendud> as well as checked output from other apps
[02:20] <ucordes> !x | nighthawk2
[02:20] <ubotu> nighthawk2: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:20] <tobyr> whats the easiest way to reinstll from a dual boot system? just put the cd in again?
[02:20] <juano_> noobcook: lol, try this, very simple, inside /media/windows hold ctrl + shift and select windows folder, drag to desktop and let go of ctrl + shift, that makes the link in GUI
[02:20] <juano_> noobcook: inside /media i mean
[02:20] <Nintendud> owell. that is why i will probably never use ext3 again
[02:21] <Nintendud> I value 25 gigs of my dpace
[02:21] <Nintendud> space*
[02:21] <noobcook> ROFL
[02:21] <noobcook> ok thanks juano
[02:21] <noobcook> haha
[02:21] <noobcook> =p
[02:21] <Nintendud> (15 lost on that partition, 10 lost on another, 1 gig lost on root; so technically 26)
[02:21] <iratsu_> how do i find out what process is using a device?
[02:21] <Enverex> Why would bash scripts not work properly in Ubuntu?
[02:21] <mohadip> hola como estan
[02:21] <kitche> Nintendud: your not evben sure if it's ext3 it could be someone using your machine for soemthing
[02:21] <Nintendud> kitche: no one is using my machine but me :)
[02:21] <Falstius> Nintendud: you can create ext3 partitions with 0% allocated for root ...
[02:22] <Nintendud> Falstius: I don't even know if it IS allocated for root
[02:22] <Nintendud> Falstius: 15 gigs vanished out of the blue
[02:22] <Nintendud> Falstius: and it's not written to, it just disappeared out of the "free" space
[02:22] <ucordes> hm hotdogs
[02:22] <tolldog> do a du | sort -n
[02:22] <tolldog> look for where it is
[02:22] <Falstius> Nintendud: vanished?  Sorry, I wasn't paying attention earlier.
[02:22] <tolldog> maybe du -x
[02:22] <nighthawk2> ucordes: what's the difference between X and gnome?
[02:22] <Nintendud> Falstius: it's alright. basically, in a few hours two weeks ago, I starting losing 1 gig an hour on that partition.
[02:22] <mx-zoom> heeh
[02:22] <mag_> help me samba please !
[02:22] <Nintendud> Falstius: now, I am missing 15 gigs.
[02:23] <noobcook> juano_ do you know how i would be able to dump all outgoing data on a certain port? eg to grab passwords?
[02:23] <toulouse> !vanishing15gigsofharddrivespace
[02:23] <Nintendud> Falstius: if I look at output from programs, and tabulate it myself, I should have 25 gigs free.
[02:23] <Eroick> what is that widget that goes in the panel and lets you type commands which it will search on your computer or run?
[02:23] <Falstius> Nintendud: sounds like a runaway process, although that would generally only happen in /var or /tmp.
[02:23] <Slart> Eroick: Deskbar?
[02:23] <stranger_stone> Hello
[02:23] <juano_> noobcook: hmm not sure, but i can search for it
[02:23] <Eroick> Slart: yeah, that. thanks
[02:23] <Nintendud> Falstius: the odd thing is, gnome-system-monitor reports "25 gigs Free", but "10.9 gigs available"
[02:23] <ucordes> the difference is that X is basically the thing where everything you see now runs on. like gnome which is your desktop enviornment assuming you are using ubuntu.
[02:23] <Falstius> Nintendud: what program did you use to calculate the space used?
[02:23] <noobcook> ok
[02:24] <Nintendud> Falstius: I also used df, and I manually tabulated the space myself
[02:24] <ucordes> !gnome | nighthawk2
[02:24] <ubotu> nighthawk2: gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[02:24] <Nintendud> there are no root directories on there. even so, I tabulated as root
[02:24] <toulouse> !x
[02:24] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:24] <Nintendud> and lost+found is empty
[02:24] <mag_> I have problems with samba... please help me !
[02:25] <Falstius> Nintendud: well, I assume you didn't read the bits 1 by 1, so did you use ls, du or something like nautilus?
[02:25] <Nintendud> Falstius: I used Thunar
[02:25] <Nintendud> (xfce4's file manager)
[02:25] <TruthElixirX> This is the place to get some help with Ubuntu, right?
[02:25] <Nintendud> Falstius: and du
[02:25] <Nintendud> I used du as well
[02:25] <TGPO> Nintendud, try using df -m
[02:25] <Nintendud> TGPO: okay
[02:25] <mx-zoom> TruthElixirX: yes it is
[02:26] <juano_> noobcook: maybe this can help some http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/tcpdump.8.html
[02:26] <iratsu_> how do i find out what process is using a device?
[02:26] <TGPO> you'll see a big differance in the reported numbers
[02:26] <Nintendud> /dev/hdd1               281675    256188     11180  96% /phantom
[02:26] <TruthElixirX> Do I need to "wait in line" or just sort of tell my problem?
[02:26] <Nintendud> ^^
[02:26] <nighthawk2> ucordes: thank you
[02:26] <Slart> TruthElixirX: just ask
[02:26] <Enverex> What do I need to install to get kernel source files in /lib/modules/whatever ? (I thought that's only where built stuff went but apparently not)
[02:26] <juano_> !ask | TruthElixirX:
[02:26] <ubotu> TruthElixirX:: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:26] <noobcook> ok thanks juano_
[02:26] <mx-zoom> TruthElixirX: just ask and hope someone can help you
[02:26] <Nintendud> TGPO: so yeah, even in that output... o_O
[02:26] <TruthElixirX> kk
[02:27] <Eroick> if I want to install xubuntu with an altternative CD do I di o a command line system install?
[02:27] <Nintendud> 256188+11180=267368 so...
[02:27] <Nintendud> it's still missing what everything else said
[02:27] <Nintendud> ;P
[02:27] <Falstius> Nintendud: I assume you checked for hidden directories/files on /phantom?
[02:27] <Nintendud> Falstius: yes.
[02:27] <Nintendud> none.
[02:27] <Nintendud> lost+found is empty.
[02:27] <Nintendud> the others are all directories I created
[02:27] <jinx099> Eroick: not really CLI, but console based yes
[02:28] <Nintendud> Falstius: and I pasted the df -m output here as well, if you missed it ;p
[02:28] <TruthElixirX> Had a computer, HP Pavilion. HDD failed, bought a new one, installed it properly, then discovered my recovery disks were gone. I thought it would be a great time to try linux. Downloaded the install and burnt it to a CD. I load up, install the OS, then it tells me to restart and eject the CD. I do so, and when I restart it it says "Can not find boot disk. Please insert appropriate CD and restart." And it won't boot into Linux.
[02:28] <Falstius> Nintendud: I always get lost .trash directories on my removable directories.  Annoying as a visit from the inlaws.
[02:28] <kitche> Eroick: you only have the ubuntu cd sicne there is an xubuntu install cd
[02:28] <Nintendud> Falstius: I don't use any program that used .trash anyway :)
[02:28] <Nintendud> use*
[02:28] <someonww> hi
[02:28] <Nintendud> Falstius: they directly delete. and .trash doesn't exist.
[02:29] <Nintendud> Falstius: and .trash would be tabulated in the above programs' output
[02:29] <someonww> how do I mount a FAT partition?
[02:29] <tolldog> you can do a find to see what files have been modified in the last 24 hours and do an --exec ls -l on it to check the size
[02:29] <Lc_945x3> Hi, does anybody know what the shortcut for copy and paste are in Gnome terminal?
[02:29] <Falstius> Nintendud: I wasn't suggesting that, just an annecdote of annoying hidden directories.  At 96% occupied, ext3 could be pretty fragmented which would eat up a lot of 'free' space.
[02:29] <Nintendud> Falstius: there is an empty Trash directory though ;p
[02:29] <hendrickvp> anybody, when apt-get install php5-imagick, I get, E: Couldn't find package php5-imagick, what do I do?
[02:29] <jinx099> Lc_945x3: highlight and middle click
[02:29] <kitche> TruthElixirX: you probably forgot to either install grub or don't have the drive to set up to boot
[02:29] <Nintendud> Falstius: ah ok, sorry.
[02:29] <Nintendud> Falstius: yeah, it IS fragmented.
[02:29] <ucordes> TruthElixirX: which OS did you install? do you see something saying GRUB bootloader on starting your box?
[02:29] <Lc_945x3> jinx099: is there a keyboard command I can use?
[02:29] <Nintendud> Falstius: but no one told me that would eat up space ;p
[02:30] <Nintendud> that's probably my solution
[02:30] <Nintendud> I believe one of my drives is ~29% fragmented
[02:30] <jinx099> Lc_945x3: ctrl-c and ctrl-v work too i believe
[02:30] <tolldog> thats a lot of space to loose to fragmenttation
[02:30] <Nintendud> unfortunately, there are no safe defragmentation tools
[02:30] <TruthElixirX> @ucordes: I installed the latest version of Ubuntu (6.10 I believe). And no, I saw nothing GRub Bootloader when starting
[02:30] <tolldog> ^loose^lose
[02:30] <Nintendud> tolldog: I know. it's ridiculous if that's trye
[02:30] <Nintendud> true*
[02:30] <kitche> well considering ext3 doesn't do fragmented anyways
[02:30] <Lc_945x3> jinx099: ctrl-v doesnt work, but I can just use this middle click its good enough :)
[02:30] <Falstius> Nintendud: ofcourse, blocks are assigned to a given file.  If that file is 1 byte, it will take up 1kb on a filesystem with 1kb blocks.
[02:30] <tolldog> i would look for growing files first
[02:30] <tolldog> and directories that looked to big
[02:31] <Nintendud> Falstius: yeah. but that's really odd for that much to be missing.
[02:31] <hendrickvp> anybody, when apt-get install php5-imagick, I get, E: Couldn't find package php5-imagick, what do I do?
[02:31] <jinx099> Lc_945x3: my bad, its shift-ctrl-c and shift-ctrl-v
[02:31] <ucordes> TruthElixirX: what option to format your hard drive did you select on installing? and how did you install?
[02:31] <Falstius> Nintendud: not if you created a couple of thousand small files ...
[02:31] <tolldog> thats a lot more fragmentation than what i am used to as well, usually i see < 10%
[02:31] <Lc_945x3> jinx099: Ah, thank you very much!
[02:31] <TruthElixirX> I followed the steps here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows as someone suggested to me, but it didn't appear to do anything.
[02:31] <noobcook> cool juano_ u can use txt files to input filter expressions
[02:31] <Nintendud> Falstius: I do have a lot of small files.
[02:32] <Falstius> tolldog: how do you check fragmentation on ext3?
[02:32] <mag_> do you have some experience with ACL's+samba ? please help me !
[02:32] <Nintendud> Falstius: the night I lost the 15 gigs, I was downloading something, but it was already allocated, so I don't see why it would have suddenly started losing space
[02:32] <TruthElixirX> I'm not sure I remember. You mean like file system? It was default ext3 or something similiar. I installed with the Install CD / Live CD (I'm currently using the live CD to get access to the internet)
[02:32] <ucordes> TruthElixirX: i don't really get what you are trying: do you want to recover your stuff from windows?
[02:32] <Enverex> What do I need to install to get kernel source files in /lib/modules/whatever ? (I thought that's only where built stuff went but apparently not)
[02:32] <juano_> noobcook: nice, didnt know that one, never read bout dumpin info
[02:32] <Nintendud> Falstius: if it's relevant, this something was a 50 gig torrent, with lots of 20 meg files. However, these files were allocated weeks and weeks prior to the day I lost 15 gigs.
[02:33] <Nintendud> so, I don't know if that would affect it or not
[02:33] <Falstius> Nintendud: I don't know how the preallocation works, but I wouldn't be surprised.
[02:33] <TruthElixirX> @ucordes: No, windows is gone. This is a new HDD. I want to install linux, but after the install proccess it won't boot into it. It just says "please insert boot disk and restart" after I format the drive and have completed ubuntu installation
[02:33] <tolldog> i do a fsck to check the fragmentation of a drive
[02:33] <Nintendud> Falstius: yeah. still, 15 gigs is a heck of a lot to lose, especially since my reiserfs drive has more on it, and hasn't lost a byte.
[02:34] <Syrra> Hello
[02:34] <tolldog> but that is for unmounted filesystems
[02:34] <aboutblank> i'm having trouble with my nvidia beta driver. i can do 'apt-get remove nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common', is there a way to check that the old module has been completely removed from the kernel?
[02:34] <Nintendud> tolldog: this partition is probably the one that read 29% fragmented on boot one time
[02:34] <Falstius> Nintendud: reisferfs is specifically designed to efficiently handle lots of small files.  It suffers for that in offer ways.
[02:34] <ucordes> TruthElixirX: it sounds like there is a rest of your windows and like grub didn't install right so windows bootloader is still in command... you said you are in your livecd right? run gparted and remove all partitions you see.
[02:34] <Nintendud> Falstius: yeah. I really want to try XFS, since reiserfs mounts slowly and other minor issues (calculating space used by a directory)
[02:35] <tolldog> you may be able to gain some space by going ext2 and getting rid of the journal
[02:35] <malt> I was reading on sudo, and do i change sudo group to root so it uses root password for sudo? instead of it giving users same password for sudo as it is in there account. and make sudo use totally different pws
[02:35] <Nintendud> tolldog: I don't think I would want to do that to my partition.
[02:35] <malt> like root
[02:35] <Nintendud> D:
[02:35] <Nintendud> I just want an explanation
[02:35] <tolldog> xfs... i used that for a long time, but other more guru types considered me crazy for doing that
[02:35] <Falstius> Nintendud: I've had some pretty scary data lose in NFS mounted XFS file systems, but that was just a nasty setup all around (wasn't me!)
[02:35] <noobcook> where can u get mp3 support for Totem
[02:35] <TruthElixirX> @ucordes: Where is Gparted? Completely new to linux / ubuntu
[02:35] <Nintendud> Falstius: haha. I've heard so many good things, and it's improving at a nice rate.
[02:35] <ucordes> TruthElixirX: you can do this by running a terminal and typing in sudo gparted or run it from the startmenu: system, administration, gnome partitioning something
[02:36] <kitche> with a power outage you can lose your whole system with xfs
[02:36] <Nintendud> I wouldn't hesitate to give it a try, at least
[02:36] <juano_> noobcook: mp3 support i got from repos, i use xmms :D
[02:36] <Nintendud> kitche: really? is it worse than NTFS? :P
[02:36] <noobcook> theres a winamp for linux project
[02:36] <ucordes> TruthElixirX: it is really user friendly. removing everything you see there, then you create a new partition with reiserfs, then you apply. try your best i need to get another hotdog
[02:36] <Nintendud> noobcook: lol, why would there be one? xmms and beep-media-player already support Winamp 2.x skins...
[02:37] <juano_> noobcook: yea.. i enjoy xmms a lot though, i use xmms, mplayer and kaffeine
[02:37] <Nintendud> and Winamp 5 is ugly D:
[02:37] <noobcook> really
[02:37] <Nintendud> noobcook: yeah.
[02:37] <noobcook> can i apt get xmms
[02:37] <juano_> noobcook: sure
[02:37] <Nintendud> plop them into your skins directory decompressed
[02:37] <juano_> noobcook: sudo apt-get install xmms
[02:37] <tolldog> so any preferences on wireless for wpa support?
[02:37] <Nintendud> (the winamp 2.x skin extention is actually just a .zip file)
[02:37] <noobcook> k
[02:37] <juano_> noobcook: or else from synaptic, search xmms, also search for mp3 and install libmp3.. etc.. for mp3 support
[02:38] <noobcook> ah ok
[02:38] <noobcook> cool
[02:38] <noobcook> hmm btw
[02:38] <noobcook> is there a hardrive diagnostics for linux that will work on ntfs
[02:38] <Falstius> Nintendud: what about bad blocks on the hard drive?
[02:38] <noobcook> because my windows blue screens when i try to boot
[02:38] <juano_> noobcook: you should enable multiverse and universe in repositories in synaptic
[02:38] <noobcook> ok
[02:39] <juano_> noobcook: your win doesnt boot?
[02:39] <Nintendud> Falstius: I believe I already checked for that... doesn't that check when the FS checks after x reboots?
[02:39] <Syrra> I'm having a problem with my video card. I've got a GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x and I can't run anything with decent graphics. I know the video card works fine, because I use it for NWN on my Windows partition.
[02:39] <noobcook> yeh =(
[02:39] <noobcook> i get a blue screen
[02:39] <noobcook> "STOP: c000021a fatal sys error, Session manager system process terminated unexpectedly with 0xc000003a"
[02:39] <noobcook> now i don't want to blame linux
[02:39] <noobcook> but i think its got something to do with partition
[02:39] <Falstius> Nintendud: not automatically.  You might want to umount the system and us fsck (I think that can check for them with the right switch).
[02:39] <noobcook> is there a way i can repair the boot file
[02:40] <juano_> noobcook: mm yea i got some times blue screens, i couldnt fix them so i formatted those times, you gotta be carefull when you partition
[02:40] <Nintendud> Falstius: I don't think there's a problem with the drive. fsck checked the drive a few days ago on boot automatically... but maybe it didn't check for bad blocks? I don't know.
[02:40] <bcstv> how do you install a new mouse pointer theme?
[02:40] <noobcook> im sure theres a way i can do it without formatting!
[02:40] <noobcook> thats a horrible alternative
[02:40] <bcstv> It says to move to ~/.icons but no directory with name esits
[02:41] <bcstv> in edgy
[02:41] <Nintendud> in any case, I don't want to umount it right now ;p
[02:41] <Syrra> Can anyone help me?
[02:41] <juano_> noobcook: hehe yep it is... maybe there is, try reinstalling windows, EXCEPT, if you reinstall windows GRUB is a gonner so it wouldnt be so nice to start from there
[02:41] <Falstius> Nintendud: bad blocks are a hardware problem that the filesystem is designed to work around.  fsck might not report them without a special switch.  I have to go now (to pick up my wife) or I'd look it up.  good luck.
[02:41] <Nintendud> ...thanks...
[02:41] <Nintendud> hmm
[02:41] <facugaich> !nvidia > Syrra
[02:41] <Nintendud> owell
[02:42] <noobcook> yeh guano_ i know ><
[02:42] <noobcook> i can probs repair windows but i think itd stuff grub also
[02:42] <wiseelben> bcstv: there is a GTK program that does this for you, let me find it
[02:42] <Kirok> noobcook: have you tried booting into recovery mode then, fixing the MBR and running chkdsk. BTW its easy to restore grub after wiping it so don't worry
[02:42] <bcstv> is it gcursor
[02:42] <wiseelben> bcstv: look for gcursor
[02:42] <noobcook> my windows xp cd wont boot
[02:42] <juano_> noobcook: Kirok is right, you should try a chkdsk
[02:43] <noobcook> lol
[02:43] <juano_> noobcook: ROFL
[02:43] <noobcook> "if it were a problem with the boot sector it wouldn't load windows at all.  so you would not get a blue screen"
[02:43] <facugaich> !nvidia > facugaich
[02:43] <noobcook> so its not boot sector
[02:43] <juano_> noobcook: mbr isnt it, cause if it was mbr, grub wouldnt even show up
[02:43] <rioghal> How do I see which manufacturer (Amie, Phoenix, etc.) made my BIOS chip?
[02:43] <facugaich> Syrra: did you read ubotu's msg?
[02:43] <malt> anyone here use VNC on there linux server?
[02:43] <Syrra> yes
[02:44] <Syrra> I'm going through the instructions now
[02:44] <tolldog> rioghal: i think its in /proc somewhere, I know where it is in redhat land
[02:44] <noobcook> juano_ i think its partition magic
[02:44] <malt> was it hard to install? like does it read by linux accounts on the system like ssh?
[02:44] <steelb> i have 5.1 surround speakers, how do i get ubuntu in 5.1 to my onboard?
[02:44] <juano_> noobcook: did you resize partition over yellow part?
[02:45] <noobcook> nope
[02:45] <veeyawn> Hey folks, having a little problem.  My wifi (eth1) card won't get an ip
[02:45] <juano_> noobcook: k.. phew... :D
[02:45] <veeyawn> When I ifdown and ifup I get There is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.eth1.pid with pid 134993416
[02:45] <veeyawn> Any ideas what's up?
[02:45] <noobcook> meh i gtg to the bank
[02:45] <noobcook> bbl
[02:45] <juano_> noobcook: k cya
[02:46] <jlewis> veeyawn: you sure it's iwconfig'd correctly?
[02:46] <juano_> veeyawn: you trying to get an IP from DHCP server or static?
[02:46] <veeyawn> dhcp
[02:46] <Enverex> What do I need to install to get kernel source files in /usr/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/source? I need it to build a driver
[02:46] <pumpkinhead> how do i change to direct rendering x server
[02:46] <juano_> veeyawn: did you run dhclient eth1?
[02:46] <veeyawn> Not entirely sure it's iwconfig'd properly
[02:46] <k5utcchad> i need aptitude help
[02:47] <jlewis> veeyawn: iwconfig eth1 (do you see an AP and reasonable S/N and signal?)
[02:47] <veeyawn> It's odd, I had Ubuntu (edgy) on a partition but recently formatted and replaced the whole system with it and now I have this issue
[02:47] <dcnstrct> guys, I just added a couple new harddrives to my machine and installed windows on one of them.  So windows overwote my boot loader with its own.  Now I want to create a boot cd that will boot into the linux system on /dev/hda1 this way I don't have to overwrite windows bootloader at all.  Is this easy ?
[02:47] <juano_> veeyawn: you could try dhclient eth1
[02:48] <veeyawn> I just did a dhclient
[02:48] <veeyawn> No good
[02:48] <Enverex> damn, would have thought someone would know this...
[02:48] <veeyawn> Tells me No DHCPOFFERS received
[02:48] <tolldog> dcnstrct: that used to be a standard trick for dual booting, install the bootloader on the partition instead of the mbr
[02:48] <juano_> veeyawn: did you specify eth1?
[02:48] <tolldog> i don't remember how to do it
[02:49] <pumpkinhead> how can i get direct rendering?
[02:49] <veeyawn> With iwconfig I do see the AP and good signal
[02:49] <veeyawn> I did do dhclient eth1, yes
[02:49] <ucordes> TruthElixirX: did you manage to format your harddrive?
[02:49] <k5utcchad> hmm
[02:49] <Kirok> dcnstrct: the grub files should still be on the linux partition you just need to reinstall it as the bootloader
[02:50] <dcnstrct> Kirok, how do I know which harddrive to install it on ?
[02:50] <dcnstrct> Kirok, I can't figure out which of the two windows drives is the one I need to install the bootloader on
[02:50] <malt> malt@malt-laptop:~$ sudo gedit /etc/xinetd.d/Xvnc
[02:50] <malt> cannot open display:
[02:50] <malt> Run 'gedit --help' to see a full list of available command line options.
[02:50] <malt> malt@malt-laptop:~$
[02:50] <Kirok> dcnstrct: try looking here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[02:50] <malt> sorry for that 4 lines
[02:50] <malt> what could be wrong with my geedit?
[02:51] <riotkittie> malt: ehhh do you have X running?
[02:51] <malt> riotkittie: yes i got a screen?
[02:51] <malt> gnome
[02:51] <malt> desktop
[02:51] <k5utcchad> any one who can help me with /etc/apt/sources.list failure please msg direct
[02:51] <riotkittie> try ALT+F2 ...   gksudo gedit
[02:51] <ucordes> malt: maybe reinstall gedit
[02:51] <NixerX> Anyone know where i can find information on setting up DNS on my dedicated server...
[02:52] <pumpkinhead> is there a better geforce driver?
[02:52] <riotkittie> no wait. hm.
[02:52] <rioghal> k5utcchad, What is the failure? Can you pastebin the output or the sources.list file?
[02:52] <age6racer> hey all, does anyone know whether wpa_supplicant 'has' to be used with ndiswrapper? or if I can somehow configure WPA support while using my wireless card's firmware instead?
[02:52] <k5utcchad> cant connect error
[02:52] <ucordes> NixerX: Dyndns?
[02:52] <k5utcchad> tried all in the list with same result
[02:53] <rioghal> k5utcchad, Are you using US sources?
[02:53] <k5utcchad> yes to us sources and no can paiste to this machine
[02:53] <NixerX> ucordes: Nope its a purchased dedicated server, I own the www dot and its static.
[02:54] <k5utcchad> running 6.10 server
[02:54] <rioghal> k5utcchad, I just noticed a few folks on the forums have reported very slow US sources links. It's possible that you can conect later.
[02:54] <ucordes> NixerX: you running ubuntu server on it?
[02:54] <NixerX> ucordes: Of course :)
[02:55] <Ice_Wewe> does the x64 kernel include V4L?
[02:55] <ucordes> NixerX: where can you buy servers with ubuntu?
[02:55] <NixerX> ucordes: serverpronto
[02:55] <Ice_Wewe> I'm trying to use my webcam, but there is no device /dev/video0
[02:56] <NixerX> ucordes: http://www.serverpronto.com/
[02:56] <F28> hi, i was wondering would it be hard to Change my Boot image? Im running Ubuntu
[02:56] <veeyawn> juaon0_:yes I did specify
[02:56] <Ice_Wewe> F28: by boot image you mean grub?
[02:56] <age6racer> anyone? wpa_supplicant help...
[02:57] <F28> ICE: yea
[02:57] <ucordes> age6racer: you read the wireless docs?
[02:57] <age6racer> my wifi works fine (if just WEP) but I need WPA do i have to use ndiswrapper?
[02:57] <Ice_Wewe> F28: man grub and then edit /boot/grub/menu.lst (and be careful, you can edit this menu from grub if you really mess things up, but make sure to backup any file you're about to edit)
[02:57] <Ice_Wewe> age6racer: wouldn't it just be easier to use WEP?
[02:57] <pumpkinhead> does anyone else have problems with their nvidia cards on ubuntu?
[02:58] <ucordes> age6racer: nonono ndiswrapper is something different. if your wifi allready works you don't need this
[02:58] <F28> Ice: thanks ;)
[02:58] <psiDevil98> hi, i am really new to linux and i have a question about connecting to my wireless network
[02:58] <Ice_Wewe> pumpkinhead: using the 'evil' closed source NVidia driver, no.
[02:58] <ucordes> !ndiswrapper | age6racer
[02:58] <ubotu> age6racer: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:58] <age6racer> Yes. but that's upto the admin of the netowrk isn't it Ice_Wewe
[02:58] <pumpkinhead> IW where can i obtain this evil driver
[02:58] <Ice_Wewe> age6racer: oh, right, I'm making assumptions
[02:59] <Ice_Wewe> pumpkinhead: you can get it with your kernel from the Ubuntu mirrors, you just have to enable Universe and Multiverse
[02:59] <Ice_Wewe> pumpkinhead: you don't happen to be an expert on video4linux, do you?
[02:59] <rioghal> pumpkinhead, Have a look at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:59] <pumpkinhead> IW i'm afraid you were over my head with the previous suggestion :p
[02:59] <ucordes> age6racer: read your way through the wiki
[02:59] <Ice_Wewe> pumpkinhead: about the enabling, or the V4L?
[03:00] <NkZ> Good nite. Some update I did messed up my whole linux, starting from nvidia-glx to xserver-xgl. Now not even a game will open up and even the sound Is dead. What could I do?
[03:00] <psiDevil98> hey, im running a laptop and have a suspicion i need a driver for my network card
[03:00] <Ice_Wewe> NkZ: prey
[03:00] <Ice_Wewe> psiDevil98: welcome to the club
[03:00] <pumpkinhead> IW i don't know how to enable, and definitely no expert
[03:00] <k5utcchad> what laptop/ wificard
[03:00] <Ice_Wewe> pumpkinhead: 'sudo apt-get install synaptic'
[03:00] <psiDevil98> well, im just wondering...
[03:00] <F28> Ice, i meant like when you boot up and its loading and it says Kubuntu(or Ubuntu) HOw would i change that
[03:01] <psiDevil98> is there anywhere in ubuntu where i can see what type of network card i have
[03:01] <NkZ> Ha ha ha ha good one Ice. But I doubt Jesus will come down and with a touch turn my PC into wine. :-) You sugest a Reformat?
[03:01] <Ice_Wewe> pumpkinhead: go to "Settings" and "Repo"... and enable them
[03:01] <pumpkinhead> rioghal thanks for the link
[03:01] <psiDevil98> cause im not sure what the model is
[03:01] <Ice_Wewe> NkZ: no, that's the windoze way
[03:01] <psiDevil98> heh, ok
[03:01] <pumpkinhead> IW i've got synaptic i'll do the settings...
[03:01] <Ice_Wewe> NkZ: I'd suggest preforming the command at the beginning of xorg.conf
[03:01] <ucordes> psiDevil98: what does lspci | grep Network give you?
[03:01] <rioghal> pumpkinhead, You're welcome.. that page has saved my butt a few times 
[03:01] <Ice_Wewe> NkZ: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[03:01] <subzero800> anyone: why do I get a "gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found." response when I try to download keys?
[03:01] <psiDevil98> aha, device mangaer
[03:02] <psiDevil98> common sense does pay off
[03:02] <Ice_Wewe> subzero800: install openpgp
[03:02] <Ricesteam> hi everyone, i just updated my ATI drivers to the latest binary drivers, but my login screen resolution is broken
[03:02] <Ice_Wewe> Ricesteam: get NVidia
[03:02] <Ice_Wewe> next!
[03:02] <ucordes> rioghal: how do you make this neat chinese-symbol-smiley?
[03:02] <Ricesteam> i can still login my computer and it works fine from then on
[03:02] <NkZ> Will test that.
[03:02] <rioghal> ucordes, I cheated, lol
[03:02] <Ricesteam> how do I fix my problem without buying a new video card?
[03:02] <k5utcchad> hey psiDevil
[03:02] <psiDevil98> yo
[03:02] <rioghal> ucordes, I saw someone else do it, I copied and pasted it into xchat's auto-replace
[03:03] <k5utcchad> do you know what type of card it is ?
[03:03] <Ice_Wewe> Ricesteam: I don't know, try the command I just told NkZ to perform
[03:03] <psiDevil98> no, thats what im checkin for right now
[03:03] <F28> Hmmmm, what things would y'all recommend me apt-get?
[03:03] <toulouse> 
[03:03] <k5utcchad> try ls pci at a console
[03:03] <psiDevil98> im looking at device manager, i hope thats the right place
[03:03] <psiDevil98> ok
[03:03] <rioghal> toulouse, That's another good one
[03:03] <Caca> Totally ignoring this line...
[03:03] <Ricesteam> Ice_Wewe, I didn't receive what you type for NKz
[03:04] <NkZ> Question: You have any Idea of why the sound could go dead? (Not muted, Already checked)
[03:04] <toulouse> 
[03:04] <toulouse> apps>char. map
[03:04] <Ice_Wewe> Ricesteam: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[03:04] <facugaich> I have an AMD Athlon but Ubuntu defaulted to linux-386, should I install K7?
[03:04] <AmaroqWolf> A friend of mine is suggesting for me to use EasyUbuntu. What do you guys think?
[03:04] <Ricesteam> Ice_Wewe, thank you
[03:05] <mvfeinstein>  Can anyone here help me... I can seem to get amarok to recognize a key that is recognized by gnome... It is the shuffle key on a logitech s510
[03:05] <_Sean> !compile
[03:05] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:05] <subzero800> Ice_Wewe: even when i reinstall Gnupgp, i still get the same error
[03:05] <jengc0il> hello
[03:05] <Captayne> hullo
[03:05] <jengc0il> !xmms
[03:05] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[03:05] <Ice_Wewe> subzero800: then I have no idea, installing PGP solved it for me
[03:05] <subzero800> Ice_Wewe: GNUPGP?
[03:05] <Captayne> I have a question - is 64bit pc ubuntu worth messing with?
[03:05] <Captayne> i know drivers etc are going to be awkward
[03:06] <ucordes> psiDevil98: type lspci in a terminal and paste the output here: ...
[03:06] <Captayne> better to stick to 32 for now?
[03:06] <swami> anyoane tell me a good desktop-tool for supervising the cpu temperature mem status cpu statu and si on...?
[03:06] <ucordes> !paste psiDevil98
[03:06] <Ice_Wewe> subzero800: yeah, try that one
[03:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste psiDevil98 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:06] <psiDevil98> kk
[03:06] <rioghal> AmaroqWolf, I feel that you should learn to install things manually, that way when something breaks you won't be stuck wondering what to do. There's no replacement for knowledge.
[03:06] <NkZ> F28 Definitelly get the video codecs. :-P
[03:06] <ucordes> !paste | psiDevil98
[03:06] <ubotu> psiDevil98: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[03:06] <psiDevil98> kewl
[03:06] <swami> anyoane tell me a good desktop-tool for supervising the cpu temperature mem status cpu statu and si on...?
[03:07] <AmaroqWolf> rioghal, that's my opinion as well. Apparently though, it can also make things run faster on your system. Unfurtunately, I don't know what easyubuntu does, so I don't know how to look up what it does to do it myself.
[03:07] <Ice_Wewe> swami: I prefer lm_sensors myself, but I'm sure there are applets that will do that sort of thing for you
[03:07] <swami> somethig to appear on the screen sn to stay there telling me those information in real time
[03:07] <NkZ> BRB
[03:08] <psiDevil98> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1133/
[03:08] <rioghal> AmaroqWolf, You should be able to find the source code for EasyUbuntu, take it apart and find out what all it does.
[03:08] <F28> !codecs
[03:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:08] <F28> O_o
[03:08] <subzero800> anyone: why do I get a "gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found." response when I try to download keys? (I tried re-installing GNUPGP and it still gives me the error)
[03:08] <jengc0il> !codecs
[03:08] <psiDevil98> looks like Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
[03:08] <Caca> Ah, this 'erroneous nickname' is turning headache on me.
[03:08] <AmaroqWolf> Okay rioghal, thank you. xD I'm rather new to linux, so I'll see how that works out.
[03:08] <k5utcchad> you have an intel
[03:08] <psiDevil98> k
[03:09] <pip`> is intel bad for kubuntu ?
[03:09] <pip`> ubuntu
[03:09] <k5utcchad> not sure
[03:09] <psiDevil98> the weird thing is, i have a little display light on my laptop to tell me whether or not the wireless card is active
[03:09] <psiDevil98> and its blinking on and off
[03:09] <rioghal> AmaroqWolf, You can always ask things like "how do I do this or that" in here. Also, http://ubuntuforums.org is awesome for finding information and posting questions.
[03:09] <k5utcchad> yeah most do
[03:09] <_Sean> after ./configure, what is my target for make?
[03:09] <k5utcchad> mine does
[03:09] <subzero800> psiDevil98: what kind of laptp?
[03:09] <Caca> Most do when there's traffic.
[03:10] <_Sean> (gaim)
[03:10] <psiDevil98> dell xps m1710
[03:10] <subzero800> anyone: why do I get a "gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found." response when I try to download keys? (I tried re-installing GNUPGP and it still gives me the error)
[03:10] <k5utcchad> that should work Id think
[03:10] <psiDevil98> i would imagine
[03:10] <Bentley333> Need help with php5 please.  Just upgraded my 6.10 server from php4 to php5 and now php doesn't work.  When I access a php file from a browser it just says 'you have chosen to download blah.php'
[03:10] <psiDevil98> perhaps i am just not doing something right
[03:10] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> # Repository for wine
[03:10] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main
[03:10] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main
[03:10] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> is this right for getting wine?
[03:10] <k5utcchad> try iwconfig ath0 in terminal
[03:10] <rance> is anyone a sound expert, I've tried two different sound cards and no matter what I do, I can't get sound from either of them, but both sound cards are properly detected at boot and the correct modules loaded, channels arent muted, but still no sound.
[03:10] <swami> what about the memory status and cpu status or the nettwork stsatus...anyoane knows prog for such thingS?
[03:10] <psiDevil98> k
[03:10] <k5utcchad> or maybe wifi0
[03:11] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !wine
[03:11] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:11] <Caca> Intel 3945 according to Dell's page.
[03:11] <subzero800> My 3945 works fine
[03:11] <swami> what about the memory status and cpu status or the nettwork stsatus...anyoane knows prog for such thingS?
[03:11] <Caca> Slick lookin' notebook.
[03:11] <psiDevil98> yeah?
[03:11] <k5utcchad> kewl im out
[03:11] <subzero800> yeah, Acer 5672Wlmi
[03:11] <psiDevil98> i must be doin something wrong in the configuration
[03:11] <kyncani> rance: alsamixer might help
[03:11] <Caca> I'd rather have a palmtop over a notebook, then again I'd rather eat Macaroni & Cheese pooled in Coca-Cola and mustard than not.
[03:12] <subzero800> make sure you have the exact case of the network you're trying to connect to
[03:12] <TruthElixirX> Okay, I am using the live CD, and have been installing Ubuntu while I browsed the net on the live CD. Is there anyway I can check and see if it installed correctly befoer restarting my computer? Sort of like a confirmation?
[03:12] <rioghal> Caca, eeewwww
[03:12] <Caca> rioghal: Don't knock it 'till you try it. :)
[03:12] <subzero800> TruthElixirX: why? just restart man, your good
[03:13] <Caca> Had to get inventive as a child, only thing my dad knew how to make in the morning. lol
[03:13] <rioghal> hahahaha
[03:13] <ucordes> psiDevil98: it might be a bit problematic because you have a very new wireless chipset called BCM5752.
[03:13] <TruthElixirX> Becuase this is my like 4th attempt at trying to install it. Someone suggersted using a different file system this time instead of ext3, and I want to make sure
[03:13] <psiDevil98> hm, ok
[03:13] <subzero800> anyone: why do I get a "gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found." response when I try to download keys? (I tried re-installing GNUPGP and it still gives me the error)
[03:13] <NkZ> Reconfiguring the X startup didnt do the Magic.
[03:13] <subzero800> !PGP
[03:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about PGP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <subzero800> !openpgp
[03:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openpgp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <ucordes> psiDevil98: did you do anything to install it?
[03:14] <Bentley333> wha about PHP...know about that?
[03:14] <Steve^> Hey, is the main Ubuntu and the LiveCD the same download?
[03:14] <psiDevil98> i am running the live version of ubuntu
[03:14] <TruthElixirX> well, restarting.. will see how it works.. Wish me luck.
[03:14] <subzero800> luck*
[03:14] <ucordes> TruthElixirX: GL
[03:15] <Caca> Gaim's not so bad for IRC after all, oooo'deee'dah.
[03:15] <psiDevil98> be back later
[03:15] <psiDevil98> thanks for the help
[03:15] <k5utcchad> never had any luck using live cd and wifi
[03:15] <yanger> is there a way to delink totem from ubuntu-desktop package?
[03:16] <Caca> Yanger: Not unless you want to make your own meta-package, it's safe to remove ubuntu-desktop though.
[03:16] <NkZ> Is there any way to load a, lets call it "image" to reset my system to default configs?
[03:16] <yanger> Caca,  oh, it is?
[03:16] <Caca> NkZ: Not that I know nothing of, but look into Casper.
[03:16] <jessid> hello friends...how is everybody?
[03:17] <yanger> i thought that would remove my whole desktop
[03:17] <Caca> ubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package in itself.
[03:17] <malt> Error: Can't open display: I got that on my VNC install trying to connect to VNC, or suing gedit for the config. what could be wrong?
[03:17] <jessid> I want to ask if some of you have any idea what a replayed transaction is?
[03:17] <NkZ> Thanks Caca.
[03:18] <yanger> odd, i did apt-get remove totem totem-mozilla and totem still starts when you type totem at the console
[03:19] <NkZ> Seems like I blew up by mystake my whole Nvidia Drivers and ended up messing up the xserver-glx aswell (Due to an Update being mean to Beryl) and now my PC is being mean, what could I do?
[03:19] <Caca> That's the Mozilla plug-in to embed Totem.
[03:19] <ucordes> yanger: totem-mozilla is only the totem plugin for mozilla ;)
[03:19] <yanger> ucordes, but totem itself should of removed the totem player, right?
[03:19] <Caca> One would imagine...
[03:20] <yanger> apt-get remove totem totem-mozilla <- i also listed totem itself
[03:20] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> NkZ , Ctrl + Alt + F1 ....and fix the xserver config file ....
[03:20] <Caca> yanger: Do this in the terminal: 'dpkg -l totem'.
[03:20] <ucordes> yanger: sudo apt-get remove totem
[03:20] <Caca> Removing 'totem' might not remove 'totem-gstreamer' or 'totem-xine'.
[03:20] <yanger> totem-gstreamer is listed
[03:20] <subzero800> anyone: why do I get a "gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found." response when I try to download keys? (I tried re-installing GNUPGP and it still gives me the error)
[03:20] <yanger> oh.. lemme see
[03:21] <neghsmoke> hey guys, how do i get Direct Rendering to say yes?
[03:21] <yanger> ~$ totem
[03:21] <yanger> bash: /usr/bin/totem: No such file or directory
[03:21] <Caca> neghsmoke: Install the display driver for your device.
[03:21] <neghsmoke> Caca, I have
[03:21] <ucordes> neghsmoke: what does lspci | grep vga give you?
[03:21] <yanger> odd error.. it's like totem's still there... symlink probably..
[03:21] <NkZ> Tried that, but didnt help much
[03:21] <Caca> neghsmoke: Did you edit xorg.conf to include it?
[03:21] <ucordes> neghsmoke: you can paste it in here because it should be one line only
[03:21] <neghsmoke> Caca: nothing
[03:22] <neghsmoke> err
[03:22] <neghsmoke> ucordes: nothing
[03:22] <ucordes> lspci | grep VGA
[03:22] <neghsmoke> Caca, not sure
[03:22] <neghsmoke> wait
[03:22] <neghsmoke> yes i think i did
[03:22] <Jachy> Hey, could anyone offer me some insight why any package manging utilities I use are waaay slower than my normal web browsing?
[03:23] <Caca> Well, what chipset is it, Nvidia? You'll have to start nvidia-kernel or restart.
[03:23] <neghsmoke> ATI Radeon
[03:23] <OzoneCo> i kept messing with the installer...now i have 4 swap partitions, and 4 ext3 partitions, how do i know which one that i am currently using?
[03:23] <Caca> Ah, have no experience with ATi cards. :\
[03:23] <ucordes> Jachy: man you can't compare browsing your packages with browsing the web lol
[03:23] <evilgold> neghsmoke, what model radeon?
[03:23] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> OzoneCo ,u should have only 1 swap ....
[03:23] <neghsmoke> I was having problems with websites lagging while scrolling, then i installed drivers, and it was fixed
[03:23] <neghsmoke> evilgold: x1600
[03:24] <evilgold> neghsmoke, have you isntalled fglrx ?
[03:24] <Jachy> But my web downloads are 150+ kb/s, while the package manager downloads are 56K speed, 2-6 kb/s.
[03:24] <neghsmoke> evilgold: yes
[03:24] <ubuntu__> hey, how do i mount my linux partition when running the live cd?
[03:24] <neghsmoke> that's what fixed the website scrolling problem
[03:24] <Sipadocup> Oh lord, figures.
[03:24] <evilgold> neghsmoke, and your xorg is using the the driver?
[03:25] <neghsmoke> how can i be sure evilgold
[03:25] <OzoneCo> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: i want to delete the others, how do i tell which slice is in use when the system boots?
[03:25] <ubuntu__> are alot of people having problems with xorg?
[03:25] <ucordes> yanger: oh i see. sorry i got you wrong. maybe the server is stressed hardly atm
[03:25] <NkZ> Think I will have to solve it by the lame way of reformat (I messed it too much)
[03:25] <evilgold> neghsmoke, run "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[03:25] <ucordes> cya all have fun
[03:25] <BULLE> OzoneCo: mount will tell you waht partitions are mounted, as what
[03:25] <evilgold> and look for the Driver line
[03:25] <TruthElixirX> No dice
[03:25] <TruthElixirX> Same thing happened
[03:25] <Lam_> my second hard drive has bad sectors that corrupted the linux partition and i want to somehow fix this. what's the best approach?
[03:25] <[GnB] jabberwocky> use gedit rather than nano, i find nano hard to use.
[03:26] <evilgold> neghsmoke, if it says radeon, or ati change it to fglrx
[03:26] <neghsmoke> and what am i looking for in here
[03:26] <Sipadocup> [GnB] jabberwocky: ... you're not from Neowin perse, eh?
[03:26] <TruthElixirX> I did notice this time that when I was shutting down it said something about "mount failed" or "no mount found" or something. Whenver you're shutting down after install, the long list of stuff that pops up
[03:26] <[GnB] jabberwocky> Lam_: bad sectors? that's a sign the drive itself is failing. you'd probably be better off working on getting a new drive.
[03:26] <neghsmoke> evilgold: only thing i see outside the comments is Section Files: fontpath
[03:27] <Jachy> I don't see how the package stuff could be as sluggish as 56K, as I have DSL...
[03:27] <[GnB] jabberwocky> Sipadocup: nope. orange county, ca, usa.
[03:27] <evilgold> neghsmoke, look for "section "Device"
[03:27] <Lam_> [GnB] jabberwocky: exactly. i want to get my data off the drive, but i can't access the data because the linux partition table itself is corrupted or something
[03:27] <Sipadocup> Probably just a coincidence. Cursed illegal nicks.
[03:27] <Steve^> Hey, is the main Ubuntu and the LiveCD the same download?
[03:27] <evilgold> neghsmoke, control + W to search
[03:27] <OzoneCo> mount shows several things, i can see the ext3 slice, which is the swap?
[03:27] <Lam_> [GnB] jabberwocky: i can get the data with dd_rescue/dd_rhelp, but i can't access it because of the corrupted partition table
[03:27] <TruthElixirX> So any new suggestions? (For those not here prior, after I install Ubuntu and restart is won't boot into Ubuntu. Tells me "Please insert appropriate boot disk and restart"
[03:28] <evilgold> neghsmoke, then type Section "Device"
[03:28] <ucordes> neghsmoke: please follow this guide here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d8c6fd05bce340dfc3ad483abf0e18997868540b-2
[03:28] <neghsmoke> evilgold: Identifier= "Radeon x1600" driver="fglrx"
[03:28] <[GnB] jabberwocky> Lam_:  there's a program our techshop uses to recover such things, but i can't seem to recall the name.
[03:28] <[GnB] jabberwocky> Lam_: you'll need to recover the files to a separate drive, though.
[03:28] <NkZ> Well, I am gone. Have a good nite guys.
[03:28] <evilgold> neghsmoke, try what ucordes sent
[03:29] <neghsmoke> k brb
[03:29] <ubuntu__> hey, how do i mount my linux partition when running the live cd?
[03:29] <Lam_> [GnB] jabberwocky: i already have a new third drive taht's ready for that. i already backed up/imaged the data, but like i said, i can't access it
[03:29] <OzoneCo> any other commands besides mount?
[03:29] <[GnB] jabberwocky> a few questions: first, is there any generic name for those widget-esque things i see on people's desktops, so i have something to google for? second, anyone know of a way to setup a nickserv macro in gaim so i don't have to type my password in every time i join?
[03:29] <evilgold> ubuntu__, use the mount command
[03:29] <[GnB] jabberwocky> Lam_: hmm. lemmie see if i can find a program for that.
[03:29] <Toph> i am running ubuntu 6.10 and have a persistent problem,,, after a day or 2, i can have several programs running and they run well, but suddenly, any additional programs fail to load,, i start them up, they attempt to load, but don't,, reboot solves the problem
[03:30] <Sipadocup> You aren't thinking of 'dd' or 'ddrescue' are you?
[03:30] <ubuntu__> evilgold, ive tried doing mount -w /dev/hda, but it says it's not there
[03:30] <Sipadocup> Those are more for damages disks than ones with bad sectors.
[03:30] <[GnB] jabberwocky> Sipadocup: no, it's a windows program
[03:30] <Sipadocup> Damaged, even.
[03:30] <Sipadocup> Oh, for Windows, hmm.
[03:30] <evilgold> ubuntu__, you need to specify a partition
[03:30] <evilgold> mount -w /dev/hda1 for example
[03:31] <Jachy> So ucordes, maybe you can elaborate on the package stuff. x3
[03:31] <ubuntu__> what if i did, mount -a -w /dev/hda1
[03:31] <evilgold> ubuntu__, and also a place to mount the partition
[03:31] <TruthElixirX> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=334968
[03:31] <TruthElixirX> There is a more detailed account of my problem.
[03:31] <evilgold> ubuntu__, mkdir /media/hda1
[03:31] <ubuntu__> evilgold, where would i mount it to?  /mnt/ubuntu?
[03:31] <OzoneCo> what determines where the system finds the swap?
[03:32] <TruthElixirX> I've tried selecting "Use Local Disk" on the Ubuntu menu on the install CD, but it jsut sits there and never finds the local disk or cant' boto from it.
[03:32] <evilgold> ubuntu__, mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[03:32] <[GnB] jabberwocky> OzoneCo: you. ubuntu sets it up itself, but you can specify a specific partition for it during install if you want.
[03:32] <evilgold> ubuntu__, you can mount it wherever you want as long as the folder exists
[03:32] <ubuntu__> evilgold, it says special device does not exist
[03:33] <OzoneCo> so if i log out, delete 3 of the 4, and then restart, it will use whichever one i leave?
[03:33] <[GnB] jabberwocky> widgets? anyone?
[03:33] <[GnB] jabberwocky> =/
[03:33] <Sipadocup> Could always edit /etc/fstab had you moved the swp partition or use the 'mkswp' utility.
[03:33] <ubuntu__> evilgold, mount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exist
[03:33] <wadoodem> hi
[03:33] <wadoodem> hi
[03:33] <Sipadocup> Locally-echoed name hasn't changed, this is blasphemy of Gaim's doing.
[03:34] <OzoneCo> i kept backing up during the install, and created 4 sets of partitions
[03:34] <evilgold> ubuntu__, try /dev/sda1
[03:34] <wadoodem> i need help ... im a noob on linux Ubuntu 6.10
[03:34] <[GnB] jabberwocky> ask a question, plese.
[03:34] <[GnB] jabberwocky> *please.
[03:34] <OzoneCo> now i would like to use my partition tool and delete the others...i can see them, just dont know what to toss out
[03:34] <OzoneCo> dont mind a reload, just gonna try not to have too
[03:34] <Toph> [GnB] jabberwocky, ,,i asked one,,no one responded
[03:35] <wadoodem> if i posible to install a maya 8 64 on ubuntu?
[03:35] <ubuntu__> thanks evilgold
[03:35] <[GnB] jabberwocky> wadoodem: with wine or cedega it might be
[03:35] <Sipadocup> Ah, that worked beautifully.
[03:35] <[GnB] jabberwocky> wadoodem: i really hope so, 'cause i want to get XSI working
[03:35] <wadoodem> do i have to dlad the wine..
[03:36] <[GnB] jabberwocky> wadoodem: yes. sudo apt-get install wine
[03:36] <TruthElixirX> Can anyone help? Or do I just need to give up? >.>
[03:36] <wadoodem> thanks i will try
[03:36] <[GnB] jabberwocky> wadoodem: then winecfg
[03:36] <wadoodem> hold  im noob on linux
[03:36] <Jachy> Why can I browse and download at 150+kbps but I can only download packages at 1-6kbps?
[03:37] <[GnB] jabberwocky> Jachy: other servers are not as fast as you are.
[03:37] <Krank_> Was there an update to the x-server recently (x.org)?
[03:37] <AmaroqWolf> I download packages fast though, [GnB] jabberwocky
[03:37] <[GnB] jabberwocky> AmaroqWolf: well, that's the only thing i can think of.
[03:38] <[GnB] jabberwocky> AmaroqWolf: also, it depends on the package.
[03:38] <AmaroqWolf> x3
[03:38] <AmaroqWolf> Me and Jachy have identical linuxes, ubuntu dapper drake. xD
[03:38] <Jachy> WinE, for example, downloads at an amazing few kb/s.
[03:38] <[GnB] jabberwocky> AmaroqWolf: but are you downloading identical packages?
[03:38] <DesertEagle> hello people :)
[03:38] <AmaroqWolf> Cept he got easy ubuntu. :P
[03:38] <AmaroqWolf> Um, I dunno xD
[03:38] <Jachy> Hey, it's easy and lazy.
[03:39] <lotacus> heh. so I have a big green overlay on workspace 1 which is where beryl is supposed to be active. :(
[03:39] <[GnB] jabberwocky> wine is very popular, there's a lot more demand for that.
[03:39] <lotacus> anyone know how to sort this problem out?
[03:39] <BULLE> Jachy: because when you are downloading packages you are doing that from a mirror that has a pretty slow internet connection, whereas the webpages come from webservers with high bandwith available
[03:39] <DesertEagle> i have a question regarding vmware server
[03:39] <[GnB] jabberwocky> lotacus: on the workspace viewer or on the screen itself?
[03:39] <TruthElixirX> Can anyone help with my boot problem?
[03:39] <AmaroqWolf> What package was it jachy?
[03:39] <Jachy> Is there some way to change which mirror?
[03:39] <AmaroqWolf> Maybe we can both do a test on one package to see.
[03:39] <Jachy> And right now I'm downloading PyGame at the same slow rate.
[03:39] <lotacus> the screen itself when I ctrl-alt leftarrow
[03:39] <lotacus> on the 1st workspace
[03:40] <lotacus> I have no effects or anything :(
[03:40] <[GnB] jabberwocky> Jachy: check the package's website, they might have another repository for you.
[03:40] <DesertEagle> does anyone know why my vmware server installer won't ask for my key? :(
[03:40] <AmaroqWolf> I'll do pygame as well then. What do I apt-get for pygame exactly again?
[03:40] <lotacus> xgl is running
[03:40] <[GnB] jabberwocky> lotacus: have all your drivers installed? you have an ati or nvidia card?
[03:40] <DesertEagle> it doesn't let me create virtual machines
[03:40] <lotacus> which I confirmed by ps ax|grep Xgl|grep -v grep
[03:40] <[GnB] jabberwocky> AmaroqWolf: apt-get pygame?
[03:40] <TruthElixirX> My computer won't boot into linux after its installed.
[03:40] <lotacus> ati x1650
[03:40] <OzoneCo> can ya put a vm in a vm?
[03:41] <[GnB] jabberwocky> lotacus: hmm. not sure, sorry =/
[03:41] <QwertyM> A little help... am gonna try an offline installation of packages that get stored in apt-get cache. Now for example I wish to install amarok on gnome Ubuntu 6.10. Will just downloading amarok and amarok-xine DEBs be enough?
[03:41] <BULLE> OzoneCo: what exactly do you mean with "vm" in this context ?
[03:41] <[GnB] jabberwocky> BULLE: virtual machine
[03:41] <Jachy> Yay, finally finished it...
[03:41] <lotacus> where is the cvs repository located for beryl?
[03:41] <[GnB] jabberwocky>  /cheer
[03:41] <lotacus> i'm gonna try the latest
[03:41] <OzoneCo> vmplayer appliance
[03:41] <user123> is usb d-link dwl g132 good for linux?
[03:41] <evilgold> is it just me or are the ubuntu repositories ungodly slow tonight?
[03:42] <malt> anybody here have VNC server working on ubuntu?
[03:42] <OzoneCo> i have xp in an appliance running on my ubuntu
[03:42] <BULLE> [GnB] jabberwocky: there are lots of very different types of virtual machines
[03:42] <BULLE> does he mean the java virtual machine, or the new kernel virtual machine, or what ?
[03:42] <neghsmoke> what's the command to open a file for viewing by sudo
[03:42] <[GnB] jabberwocky> user123: you're probably gonna end up using ndiswrapper no matter what you do
[03:42] <BULLE> if so, yes he can run a kvm instance and in that instance start a jvm
[03:42] <Jordan_U> evilgold: Try another mirror
[03:42] <BULLE> but its realy all up to exactly what virtual machine he is thinking of
[03:42] <Jordan_U> neghsmoke: gksudo gedit /path/to/file
[03:43] <DesertEagle> how bout my virtual machine issue? :D
[03:43] <DesertEagle> vmware won't ask for my key :(
[03:43] <AmaroqWolf> [GnB] jabberwocky, pygame has a version number, 2.4 I think, that jachy's getting. And your name is hard to type. lol.
[03:43] <Pelo> does anyone know how to manualy mount a webcam ? the driver is there it just isn'T mounting as /dev/video0
[03:43] <TruthElixirX> I give up. Windows it is. *sigh*
[03:43] <DesertEagle> quitter! :P
[03:43] <BULLE> DesertEagle: mail vmware support ?
[03:43] <Q_Continuum> The Ubuntu Artwork package, anyone know offhand where those get installed to by default?
[03:43] <Jachy> Nah, there are two pygame files in the repository that are both installed.
[03:43] <Q_Continuum> err Desktop (monthly)
[03:43] <AmaroqWolf> Oh
[03:44] <DesertEagle> noice!
[03:44] <TruthElixirX> Thanks
[03:44] <evilgold> Jordan_U, I did, but i want to know... are the us mirrors slow for anyone else?
[03:44] <AmaroqWolf> xD I only have one of them installed jachy
[03:44] <Jachy> Which one?
[03:44] <jessid> hello...some of you remember the name of the application that allows the GUI to become like rubber?
[03:44] <TruthElixirX> IF someone could at least point me at the place I need ot read on the wiki or something. >.<
[03:44] <AmaroqWolf> python-pygame
[03:45] <BULLE> jessid: window manager - beryl ?
[03:45] <varsendagger> hey how do i upgrade firefox   and install the new flash player
[03:45] <AmaroqWolf> it doesn't have a 2.4 in it
[03:45] <Pelo> !xgl | jessid
[03:45] <ubotu> jessid: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:45] <Jachy> Is there one with the 2.4 in it?
[03:45] <BULLE> beryl is realy much nicer then compiz imho
[03:45] <AmaroqWolf> xD yeah ther eis.
[03:45] <Jachy> (Or you could always try running an example, Amaroq.)
[03:45] <AmaroqWolf> *there
[03:45] <BULLE> but i guess you get rubbery windows with either
[03:45] <jessid> BULLE yes!
[03:46] <pl_ice> hey, i need a hand with bluetooth, can't set the pin
[03:46] <Sargun> I want to fly away!
[03:46] <jessid> Pelo thats it...thanks!
[03:46] <BULLE> Sargun: may i recomend SD Airlines
[03:46] <neghsmoke> evilgold: i ran through that whole writeup
[03:46] <neghsmoke> did everything they said
[03:46] <user123> [GnB] jabberwocky: I try ndiswrapper but not recognize the device
[03:46] <neghsmoke> and the only thing i could find that might be a problem
[03:46] <Sargun> SD?
[03:46] <Jordan_U> TruthElixirX: What exactly happens when you try to boot
[03:46] <Jordan_U> ?
[03:46] <DesertEagle> Pelo: is it connected via USB?
[03:46] <neghsmoke> is the following line in X0rg.0.log
[03:46] <neghsmoke> (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
[03:47] <TruthElixirX> It says
[03:47] <AmaroqWolf> jachy, you might need to add some things to the um... repository thingies file thingy.
[03:47] <Pelo> DesertEagle,  yes, but the easycam won't mount it
[03:47] <TruthElixirX> "Please insert boot disk and hit a key or restart."
[03:47] <AmaroqWolf> like multiverse, etc. I had to do that too.
[03:47] <jessid> BULLE, Pelo dont those 2 work together?
[03:47] <DesertEagle> hmm, dunno easycam
[03:47] <AmaroqWolf> Does anyone remember where that is?
[03:47] <RedStamp> If your not living life on the Edgy your taking up too much space.
[03:47] <BULLE> jessid: no
[03:47] <Pelo> DesertEagle,  what do you use ?
[03:47] <BULLE> jessid: beryl is a fork of compiz
[03:47] <Flannel> TruthElixirX: you seem to not have a bootloader installed
[03:47] <Flannel> !grub | TruthElixirX
[03:47] <ubotu> TruthElixirX: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:47] <DesertEagle> Pelo, haven't actually tried yet
[03:47] <Jachy> I've clicked all of those, Amaroq.
[03:47] <Jordan_U> TruthElixirX: This is after installing Ubuntu? Did it ever work?
[03:47] <Flannel> TruthElixirX: first link there will tell you how to install GRUB
[03:47] <DesertEagle> Pelo, last time i dealt with linux and webcam was like 6 years ago :S
[03:48] <Jachy> I don't remember if it installed everything due to sluggishness, but still.
[03:48] <AmaroqWolf> I think there's a file you have to modify
[03:48] <Jachy> Oh?
[03:48] <RedStamp> aiglx xgl beryl etc compiz bla bla dont work on my box makes it too unstable. is that common?
[03:48] <enzooo> @find porn
[03:48] <TruthElixirX> I've tried that walk through
[03:48] <TruthElixirX> on installing grub
[03:48] <TruthElixirX> and it didn't do anything
[03:48] <DesertEagle> wtf?
[03:48] <DesertEagle> enzooo?
[03:48] <n0obuntu> Hi there, does anyone know how I can set up a portion of my HDD to save persistent data, bearing in mind I am very new to this??
[03:48] <BULLE> Pelo: when you insert the usb cam, does dmesg show some info about a new usb device being detected ?
[03:48] <Pelo> DesertEagle,  this is a cheap ass digital camera my brother just gave me
[03:48] <TruthElixirX> It was suggested in the thread I amde on the forum
[03:48] <evilgold> neghsmoke, I was able to get my ati card working by using the drivers from there site
[03:48] <evilgold> maybe you should try that
[03:48] <TruthElixirX> and it didn't appear to change a thing. Could it be possible something else, in addition to my hard drive, failed?
[03:48] <Jordan_U> RedStamp: XGL is not very stable, AIGLX and beryl/compiz should be though
[03:48] <BULLE> Pelo: batman one ?
[03:48] <RedStamp> If at first you dont succeed sky diving wasnt for you
[03:48] <evilgold> The ati site i mean
[03:48] <Pelo> BULLE,  the cam is detected , I can use it as a usbdisk  but I can' tmount it as a webcam
[03:49] <Pelo> BULLE,  yes
[03:49] <Pelo> the batman cam
[03:49] <DesertEagle> Pelo, back in my day, i had to do the entire drivers setup by hand
[03:49] <Krank_> !xorg
[03:49] <Pelo> make that the batcam
[03:49] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:49] <RedStamp> Jordan_U I lost the top bar on windows.
[03:49] <Azabe> how do i change repository in synaptic?
[03:49] <DesertEagle> Pelo, if so... a good starting point would be getting the drivers
[03:49] <BULLE> Pelo: so, basicly, the driver that is loading is the usb mass storage driver part
[03:49] <RedStamp> windows under ubuntu to clarify
[03:49] <Flannel> TruthElixirX: your BIOS might be setup funky, basically, your computer is going through all the boot options, and not finding anything valid
[03:49] <Flannel> TruthElixirX: valid being, something bootable
[03:49] <BULLE> Pelo: is this the general usb mass storage module, or is it some special batcam module ?
[03:50] <Pelo> BULLE,  yes,  DesertEagle  I have the driver and it is installed,  it just won't mount as /dev/video0 for me to use with an app
[03:50] <Jordan_U> RedStamp: What setup are you using, AIGLX? compiz? beryl?
[03:50] <TruthElixirX> @Flannel, so how would I fix that?
[03:50] <varsendagger> TruthElixirX, hey did you install linux then delete it?
[03:50] <neghsmoke> evilgold, when i try to run the ati .run file
[03:50] <neghsmoke> i get an error
[03:50] <BULLE> Pelo: so, check in /sys if the cam stuff shows up on the usb bus
[03:50] <Krank_> !xserver
[03:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:50] <varsendagger> TruthElixirX, what did you do
[03:50] <Pelo> BULLE,  the general usbmass storrage module works fine,  I can get picutres and avi out no problem
[03:50] <RedStamp> ahh I have AIGLX and compiz and beryl....all of them I think
[03:50] <BULLE> Pelo: if that is the case, check udev rules, to make sure the proper dev entries gets created
[03:50] <DesertEagle> Pelo, shouldn't it be through sd0 or something like that?
[03:50] <RedStamp> it works ok under mandriva but i'm a ubuntu fan.
[03:50] <DesertEagle> or is video0 a pointer to another device?
[03:50] <Flannel> TruthElixirX: um, well, I guess check your BIOS first, make sure your HD that you have a bootloader on is in the BIOS's boot list,
[03:50] <TruthElixirX> I installed linux on a brand new HDD, got that problem. Retried on my own, same problem. Completely reformatted drive, asked for help on ubuntu forums, followed those isntructions, same problem.
[03:51] <x-r00t-x> need help with installing windows xp on vmware. mostly need with the *.vmx file.
[03:51] <pl_ice> hey, i need a hand with bluetooth
[03:51] <Vaske_Car> How to write image file to floppy disk?
[03:51] <BULLE> Pelo: yes, but the general usb mass storage module wont allow you to use the cam as a cam, right
[03:51] <Flannel> TruthElixirX: How many HDDs do you have?
[03:51] <evilgold> neghsmoke, how did you run it? you need to type somthing like sudo ./nameofthefile.run
[03:51] <TruthElixirX> 1
[03:51] <Flannel> Vaske_Car: dd
[03:51] <jack_> hi... is there a way to easily change from xubuntu to ubuntu.. or just run the ubuntu install disk and have it format the drive?
[03:51] <varsendagger> is it ide or sata?
[03:51] <Jordan_U> RedStamp: compiz AND beryl ? why do you have both, that might be what is causing the problems.
[03:51] <DesertEagle> x-r00t-x easyvmx.com
[03:51] <dstaudt> pl_ice: i've been suffering with bluetooth :)
[03:51] <neghsmoke> hmmm
[03:51] <evilgold> neghsmoke, and also, make sure its set as an executable file
[03:51] <BULLE> Pelo: might be that the usb mass storage module will hog the device, and stop the cam module from
[03:51] <BULLE> Pelo: working
[03:51] <Vaske_Car> Flannel, can you post example?
[03:51] <evilgold> neghsmoke, chmod +x *.run in the dir with the file
[03:51] <TruthElixirX> IDE or SATA? Umm... It has a wide ribbon type cable...? SATA I believe that is? Or is it the other cable that plus into it?
[03:51] <DesertEagle> could someone help me with graphics in grub?
[03:52] <pl_ice> dstaudt yeh, i think its the answer, it does not work, got it ping the phone, but thats it :/
[03:52] <jack_> hi... is there a way to easily change from xubuntu to ubuntu.. or just run the ubuntu install disk and have it format the drive?
[03:52] <jack_> ????
[03:52] <RedStamp> what's better compiz or beryl?
[03:52] <neghsmoke> did that
[03:52] <x-r00t-x> DesertEagle, tnx . lamme try it
[03:52] <Pelo> BULLE,   I have  /sys/bus/usb/drivers/usb-storage/spca5xx
[03:52] <Music_Shuffle> !xubuntu
[03:52] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[03:52] <neghsmoke> lemme try running it with that command
[03:52] <enzooo> !sex
[03:52] <Flannel> Vaske_Car: dd if=[input]  of=[output] 
[03:52] <DesertEagle> TruthElixX wide ribbon = IDE (PATA)
[03:52] <jack_> thanks'
[03:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:52] <TruthElixirX> IDE then
[03:52] <enzooo> porn
[03:52] <Music_Shuffle> jack_, np.
[03:52] <enzooo> !porn
[03:52] <Pelo> !ops
[03:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about porn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:52] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[03:52] <dstaudt> pl_ice, what are you trying to accomplish?
[03:52] <DesertEagle> enzoo... WTF?
[03:52] <jack_> SEX ME BABALU
[03:52] <mvfeinstein> Can anyone here recomend a good front end for xmms2 preferabley one that supports all of the xmms2 features
[03:52] <RedStamp> is there any good step by step pages to setup AIGLX and Compiz?
[03:52] <Pelo> !op
[03:52] <varsendagger> ide should work fine....    i know that SATA   may be a problem
[03:53] <pl_ice> dstaudt got usb bluetooth, wanna copy photos from LG phone
[03:53] <Jordan_U> !xgl | RedStamp
[03:53] <ubotu> RedStamp: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:53] <TruthElixirX> Well it isn't. :-p
[03:53] <pl_ice> !beer
[03:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:53] <RedStamp> thanks!!!!
[03:53] <Krank_> Anyone have a url pointing to solutions to x-server problems? After an xorg update I can't boot into the gui..
[03:53] <Music_Shuffle> !botabuse
[03:53] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[03:53] <varsendagger> TruthElixirX, did you install windows on this system
[03:53] <RedStamp> ahh
[03:53] <n0obuntu> !persistent
[03:53] <TruthElixirX> It was on the hard drive that failed, but I removed it and put in the new one
[03:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about persistent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:53] <RedStamp> thats xgl dont I want AIGXL with an ATI radeon car?
[03:53] <RedStamp> card
[03:53] <Pelo> BULLE,  I when I try to start "webcam" I get a message that no device is found at /dev/video0
[03:53] <TruthElixirX> this is a brand new HDD, nothing has been put on it(minus my faield attempts at linux)
[03:54] <dstaudt> pl_ice, i've been working with BT headsets...haven't messed with data transfer
[03:54] <varsendagger> the new one hasn't worked at all
[03:54] <Pelo> BULLE,  hence my question
[03:54] <Sipadocup> mvfeinstein: XMMS isn't an audio engine in itself, or did you mean a remote?
[03:54] <Jordan_U> RedStamp: Are you using Edgy?
[03:54] <dstaudt> pl_ice, there was lots of info available via googling
[03:54] <klees> i just finished downloading a 3.2g file with wget but the process has not ended....  is that normal?
[03:54] <RedStamp> Yes
[03:54] <pl_ice> dstaudt been on google for over an hour :)
[03:54] <Pelo> !webcam
[03:54] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[03:54] <RedStamp> I'm using eDGY.
[03:54] <dstaudt> pl_ice, hour, pfff!  you've just begun to fight
[03:54] <varsendagger> hey here is somehting....   is the HD   master or slave jumpered?
[03:54] <Vaske_Car> Flannel, what is the path to floppy drive?
[03:54] <mvfeinstein> Sipadocup I guess I am looking for a client
[03:54] <TruthElixirX> Master
[03:54] <neghsmoke> evilgold: sorry for being such a noob, but i'm trying to su myself, and it tells me my password is wrong. is there a default password? cus i don't think i set it
[03:54] <TruthElixirX> I made sure of that
[03:55] <BULLE> Pelo: http://mxhaard.free.fr/
[03:55] <selah> Is GRUB still on the MBR even after formatting the drive after intalling ubuntu?
[03:55] <skmidry> !WEP
[03:55] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:55] <Sipadocup> mvfeinstein: Nevermind, just now noticed that you said XMMS2 rather than XMMS.
[03:55] <BULLE> Pelo: so check udev rules then
[03:55] <riotkittie> neghsmoke: uh. su or sudo?
[03:55] <neghsmoke> super user
[03:55] <Pelo> BULLE,  thanks
[03:55] <varsendagger> ok....   maybe try to use knoppix   and run some test on the HD
[03:55] <x-r00t-x> DesertEagle, i got problem with few thing . 1 sound card. 2 Lan card. what i do? those are not listed there.
[03:55] <RedStamp> Is there any point installing AIGXL/compiz with a Radeon 9550 card?
[03:55] <riotkittie> sudo. dont su.
[03:55] <TruthElixirX> knoppix?
[03:55] <Azabe> after installing vncserver and running it i get the following error message... 'vncpasswd: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3:' whats teh name of that particular libstdc++ package that i need?
[03:55] <Jordan_U> RedStamp: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_AIGLX
[03:55] <varsendagger> it is a live CD
[03:55] <varsendagger> !knoppix
[03:55] <klees> i just finished downloading a 3.2g file with wget but the process has not ended....  is that normal?
[03:55] <Pelo> BULLE,  udev ?
[03:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knoppix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:56] <DesertEagle> x-r00t-x no clue buddy, i'm on the same wagon you are, just started using vmware
[03:56] <varsendagger> ubotu is dumb
[03:56] <RedStamp> thanks
[03:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is dumb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:56] <TruthElixirX> I'll just google it
[03:56] <x-r00t-x> DesertEagle, :(
[03:56] <pl_ice> dstaudt i know there is a buq in bluetooth, but can't find more info :)
[03:56] <neghsmoke> riotkittie: iu need to be super user to run ati's installation program
[03:56] <Azabe> anyone ? :>
[03:57] <josh_____> anyone got an idea of how to dock a program to the side, much like AIM does in Windows?  I'm thinking it might be possible through using the Gnome panels, but I haven't figured it out completely yet...
[03:57] <TruthElixirX> Just run the knoppix live CD and...?
[03:57] <riotkittie> neghsmoke: and you're using the su command? yes?  root is locked, su wont work. so use sudo.
[03:57] <smiesko> where i fing graphic card driver (Geforce go 6100) ?
[03:57] <pl_ice> riotkittie just a reminder there is a buq in ATI , got cought on that yesterday...
[03:57] <riotkittie> or are you *using* sudo and i am just reading you wrong?
[03:57] <jack_> !buttsecks
[03:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about buttsecks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:57] <jack_> (
[03:57] <neghsmoke> riotkittie, like i said i am a complete noob =D installed linux yesterday
[03:57] <pl_ice> josh_____ yeh, its calld kdocker
[03:57] <swx> I need help to install gnome on a fresh AndLinux installation can you help me ?
[03:57] <Jordan_U> !language | jack_
[03:57] <ubotu> jack_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:58] <smiesko> where i find graphic card driver (Geforce go 6100) ?
[03:58] <neghsmoke> does sudo make you super user temporarily or something?
[03:58] <jrib> !nvidia  | smiesko
[03:58] <ubotu> smiesko: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:58] <Pelo> any ops around we need to get rid of an idiot
[03:58] <riotkittie> neghsmoke: yes
[03:58] <Music_Shuffle> neghsmoke, yeh.
[03:58] <burepe> I got a resolution problem. If anyone thinks they can point me in the right direction, you can read details here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1996379#post1996379
[03:58] <Jordan_U> !fglrx | smiesko
[03:58] <jack_> ?
[03:58] <jack_> o
[03:58] <varsendagger> how do i upgrade firefox
[03:58] <smiesko> ubotu: thx
[03:58] <BULLE> Jordan_U: he needs the nvidia driver, not the fglrx, dont confuse the poor chap
[03:58] <jack_> sorry.
[03:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:58] <jrib> varsendagger: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[03:58] <TruthElixirX> Anyways, thanks for the help. I have to be off though. I will probably be back tomorrow. :D
[03:58] <TruthElixirX> Thanks!
[03:58] <varsendagger> breezy
[03:58] <riotkittie> pl_ice: no need to remind me that theres a bug in ATI ...  i wouldnt expect anything less from them :P
[03:59] <chiarato> how do i run gdebi ?
[03:59] <Jordan_U> BULLE: It gives the same message :)
[03:59] <Lurner> I've been having a heck of a time installing ubuntu.. I finally had to go for the text interface in the alt Cd. and finally I got an install
[03:59] <Lurner> so I upgraded to xorg
[03:59] <Pelo> gotta go , thanks for the hlp guus
[03:59] <Pelo> guys
[03:59] <Lurner> then startx
[03:59] <Lurner> and the screen is now black
[03:59] <Lurner> how do I endx while typing blind ?
[03:59] <user123> something knows streamtuner? how can I record what I hear?
[03:59] <jrib> varsendagger: best way is to upgrade your ubuntu.  Edgy has firefox 2.0 default.  If you would rather install it manually, outside the repositories (and thus, you won't receive automatic security updates), you can type this:  /msg ubotu firefox
[03:59] <pl_ice> riotkittie u have to edit xorg otherwise there will ne no rending :P
[03:59] <Lurner> stopx ?
[03:59] <chiarato> how do i run gdebi ?
[04:00] <dstaudt> Lurner: ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:00] <pl_ice> to fix the bug
[04:00] <jrib> chiarato: double click on a deb file
[04:00] <BULLE> Lurner: ctrl+alt+backspace
[04:00] <BULLE> riotkittie: you are the one rioting, not me!
[04:00] <riotkittie> pl_ice:  i dont have an ati card
[04:00] <selah> burepe: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-84978c53ee5461d0924f8298527f4fbc891328c9
[04:00] <chiarato> thanks
[04:00] <riotkittie> err. well. actually. i do. but. :P
[04:00] <varsendagger> jrib, thanks
[04:00] <BULLE> riotkittie: hmm, guess throwing back canisters is ok while rioting =)
[04:00] <Lurner> nothing.. still locked up ..
[04:01] <riotkittie> BULLE: i'd hope so. i'm not up-to-date on riot etiquette
[04:01] <Lurner> power down ?
[04:01] <mvfeinstein> Can anyone here help me... I can seem to get amarok to recognize a key that is recognized by gnome... It is the shuffle key on a logitech s510
[04:01] <swx> Help installing Gnome on a copy of Edgy on wich there is no graphic interface (AndLinux), thank you
[04:01] <BULLE> Lurner: try a ctrl+alt+delete first
[04:01] <riotkittie> Lurner: uhm. what card are you using?
[04:01] <Lurner> I did.. and the hard drive made a noise but still black screen
[04:01] <BULLE> Lurner: wait a bit then
[04:01] <Lurner> riotkittie ? it's a laptop
[04:01] <BULLE> Lurner: noise is good
[04:02] <BULLE> Lurner: ctrl+alt+delete should make it shutdown, if you are lucky
[04:02] <ctothej> How do I install grub onto my hard drive sdc (hard drive where ubuntu is installed)?
[04:02] <Lurner> I just turned it off
[04:02] <riotkittie> Lurner: laptops still have gfx cards. or chips. dont they :P
[04:02] <BULLE> riotkittie: or small gnomes, that run around with pencils
[04:02] <Lurner> yes they do.. but I can't pull the card and look
[04:02] <BULLE> well, i suspect mine has gnomes
[04:02] <BULLE> damn, i should go to sleep
[04:02] <riotkittie> Lurner: you edited xorg.conf, you said?
[04:03] <BULLE> Lurner: lspci, or google
[04:03] <Lurner> no I asked how to get out of a grey screen so I could do that.. ha ha
[04:03] <swx> Can someone lead me to a how to install gnome from scratch, thank you
[04:03] <riotkittie> oh
[04:03] <Kalrog> Hopefully a quick question here, but how do I search an entire filesystem for a file?  I am trying to find my bookmark.html file from Firefox (default install of ubuntu) and ls -R isn't finding it.
[04:03] <Lurner> I will try again
[04:03] <neghsmoke> reboot time
[04:03] <magez_> hello
[04:03] <jrib> swx: what ubuntu did you install?
[04:03] <swx> hello
[04:03] <dstaudt> kalrog: use the 'fine' command
[04:03] <riotkittie> Lurner: when you reboot, do it in recovery mode... then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:03] <dstaudt> Kalrog, er "find"
[04:04] <Kalrog> Latest version.  Find, thanks.
 Edgy but this is the AndLinux version so it is by default very light
[04:04] <dstaudt> kalrog, like 'sudo find / -name myfile.txt'
 No gnome packages installed
[04:04] <jrib> Kalrog: find or locate.  locate will be faster.  it is in ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/bookmarks.html btw
[04:04] <jrib> swx: install ubuntu-desktop package
[04:04] <ctothej> how do I install grub on another hard drive?
[04:05] <rioghal> Kalrog, sudo updatedb && locate bookmarks.html
 ok in progress
[04:05] <riotkittie> locate rocks the casbah
[04:05] <palomer> hello
[04:05] <palomer> is there an alternative to kaffeine?
[04:05] <joshua__> damn running into issues installing ubuntu... it's installed in the past just fine using this cd, but now it's sticking on "Running "grub-install (hd0)"..."
[04:05] <Kalrog> Y'all are great.
[04:05] <rioghal> palomer, mplayer is one of the best, IMHO. there's also xine
[04:06] <neghsmoke> christ this is a pain, installed ati's drivers succesfully, rebooted, glxinfo | grep direct still says direct rendering: no
[04:06] <Azabe> anyone using vnc4server ? when trying to start it, it gives me the following error message 'libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory' ; i can't find this package in synaptic... ;/
[04:06] <jrib> palomer: vlc too, but I like mplayer the best
[04:06] <somerville32> neghsmoke, Did you change the driver in the xorg.conf file?
[04:06] <derrik> Azabe: "vnc" is built in
[04:06] <dstaudt> neghsmoke, what version of ubuntu?
[04:07] <neghsmoke> 6.10
[04:07] <Azabe> derrik: vnc server?
[04:07] <derrik> Azabe: find 'remote desktop'
[04:07] <neghsmoke> somerville32: one second let me find what it says
[04:07] <derrik> Azabe: have it use the VNC protocol
[04:07] <dstaudt> you have to disable compositing in xorg.conf
[04:07] <rioghal> neghsmoke, That's nothing. I installed Ubuntu a few days ago, using an onboard graphics (no ati or nvidia) and glxinfo | grep render says "Direct rendering yes" here.
[04:07] <dstaudt> the ATI binary driver doesn't support it
[04:07] <chiarato> I downloaded the firefox 2.0 zip and I couldn't install it what would I have to do to run this the installer after I unzip the file?
[04:07] <Jachy> Where's BitTorrent located at? I download the one from the official site, but it said it was already on the system.
[04:07] <Azabe> i need to remote into this server from another machine using vnc client
[04:08] <neghsmoke> dstaudt already did that
[04:08] <pl_ice> dstaudt do u know whats the pin number for the BT?
[04:08] <riotkittie> chiarato: is there a file named install or something similar?
[04:08] <dougsko> Azabe: any time youre looking for a command, open up a terminal and type the first few letters of it, then hit TAB
[04:08] <derrik> Azabe: you want to remote into ubuntu right?
[04:08] <dstaudt> pl_ice, usually it's '0000' or '1234'
[04:08] <chiarato> riotkittie: no :(
[04:08] <riotkittie> FF2 isnt in the repos?
[04:08] <pl_ice> dstaudt that sits in the /etc/bluetooth/pin, correct? i've tried that, and says pin mistmach :/
[04:09] <riotkittie> brb
[04:09] <Azabe> derrik: from a sun servre which has a vnc client into ubuntu machine using vnc client
[04:09] <Azabe> dougsko: yeah i know that :)
[04:09] <dstaudt> since it's a phone, it could have a custom pin, or no pin
[04:09] <dstaudt> can you change the pin on the phone?
[04:09] <derrik> Azabe: yeah just find the 'remote desktop' on the ubuntu machine
 AndLinux is installed by default with an englsih keyboard, will I be able to modify this setting when gnome will be installed ?
[04:09] <jrib> swx: I have no idea what AndLinux is
[04:10] <noobcook`a> ,am
[04:10] <Azabe> derrik: how would i start up a vnc server on ubuntu when remoting into the console
[04:10] <noobcook> i cant belive how hard it is to apply for a smart card
 well my version is based on Edgy.. so this is a native emulator for mocrosoft OS
[04:10] <noobcook> that took 1 hr of coaxing the lady at the bank
[04:11] <derrik> Azabe: ahh, you're on the console. hmm
[04:11] <Azabe> derrik: using ssh i dont have a gui :)
[04:11] <Azabe> exactly :> hah
[04:11] <Azabe>  :)
[04:11] <chiarato> I downloaded the firefox 2.0 zip and I couldn't install it what would I have to do to run this the installer after I unzip the file?
 i should be able to do everything i can do with edgy on AndLinux
[04:11] <Azabe> thats why i installed vnc4server
[04:11] <user123> how can I record a stream session? I found a command mplayer -dumpfile <file name> -dumpstream <URL>. It seems to work but the file that I create is no good for the system... Any idea??
[04:11] <jrib> swx: you can change keyboard settings in gnome's preferences menu
[04:11] <bruenig> chiarato, you don't install it, you just run the firefox script in the extracted directory
[04:11] <neghsmoke> after using the ati binary should xorg.conf still read fglrx for Driver?
[04:11] <Kluster> How can I make ubuntu stable ?
[04:11] <DoppelGanger> kick it
[04:11] <Music_Shuffle> It..is stable
[04:11] <joshua__> anyone? damn running into issues installing ubuntu... it's installed in the past just fine using this cd, but now it's sticking on "Running "grub-install (hd0)"..."
[04:11] <Kluster> what do you mean ?
[04:12] <DoppelGanger> take your foot and kick the piece of shat
[04:12] <DoppelGanger> ubuntu is not a stable os
[04:12] <Kluster> joshua__, yeah that's what I mean, it's like a beta distro.. most of it isn't ready for the real world
[04:12] <jamesb2147> how do i use the make uninstall command?
[04:12] <DoppelGanger> its unstable debian that got screwed up
[04:12] <neghsmoke> somerville32: what should xorg.conf read for driver?
[04:12] <chiarato> bruenig: what is the extension of the file ex: *.exe ?
[04:12] <dougsko> user123: what are you trying to save, a movie or music?
 thank you... for sure ive got everything installed to run graphic emulation with the program so no problem on this side.. the only problem for me is to install the graphic interface
[04:13] <rioghal> DoppelGanger, I have never had any major problems with Ubuntu, which is why I still run it.
[04:13] <somerville32> neghsmoke, No idea. You can find out by visiting the wiki page :)
[04:13] <somerville32> !ati > neghsmoke
[04:13] <bruenig> chiarato, you download the tar.gz from getfirefox.com, then you untar it. Then you run a script in there called firefox to run the browser
[04:13] <m12> how do you uninstall a package you installed as  a SH script?
[04:13] <derrik> Azabe: looks like you'll be editing the vnc.conf
[04:13] <noobcook> "#
[04:13] <noobcook> Make sure the universe section of the Ubuntu repositories is enabled (See the AddingRepositoriesHowto), and then run:
[04:13] <noobcook> "
[04:13] <Music_Shuffle> Maybe I should rephrase that. Ubuntu is stable.
[04:13] <neghsmoke> somerville32: awe that's sweet of you to say
[04:13] <derrik> Azabe: in /etc/vnc.conf
[04:13] <DoppelGanger> rioghal: my ubuntu kept crashing from day one gave me flashbacks of xp
[04:13] <Music_Shuffle> Errors are usually user-side.
[04:13] <user123> dougsko: only audio streaming
[04:13] <neghsmoke> and what wiki page =D
[04:13] <dougsko> user123: i dont know about recording movie streams, but for music, theres a program called streamripper, which is pretty cool
[04:13] <noobcook> anyone know the command that will let u check if the universe section of repositories are enabled?
[04:13] <Kluster> Music_Shuffle, no it's not stable.  at least according to their website
[04:13] <neghsmoke> hah nm
[04:14] <chiarato> bruenig: thanks bro'
[04:14] <palomer> hello
[04:14] <palomer> I'm running a process foo
[04:14] <OzoneCo> got any good readme's about putting grub on the *nix drive, and using the boot,ini to point to*nix?
[04:14] <dougsko> user123: it records internet radio and parses each some into its own mp3
[04:14] <palomer> and I don't want foo to take up more than 10 megs
[04:14] <palomer> how do I do that?
[04:14] <Kluster> see, it says:    A package will also be prevented from entering Debian 'testing' if it has release-critical bugs according to Debian criteria, but a bug which is release-critical for Debian may not be as important for Ubuntu. (http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/)
[04:14] <jinx099> noobcook: 'cat /etc/apt/sourcel.list'
[04:14] <rioghal> DoppelGanger, Did you install anything outside of the official repos or use a "script" to make installation of things easier?
[04:14] <jinx099> noobcook: 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list'  sorry
[04:14] <noobcook> thats ok
[04:15] <user123> -dougsko: I know streamtuner but i can't recording
[04:15] <DoppelGanger> rioghal: no
[04:15] <Music_Shuffle> You can record with streamtuner..
[04:15] <m12> how do you uninstall a package you installed as  a SH script?
[04:15] <noobcook> what am i looking for jinx099
[04:15] <user123> -dougsko: I don't know how to! not switch on
[04:16] <jinx099> noobcook: If theres a # to start the universe lines, then its not enabled, no # and they are enabled
[04:16] <dougsko> user123: check out streamripper, it works with streamtuner, but its not the same thing
[04:16] <Kluster> rioghal, script that makes installation easier ?  but ubuntu is basically for dummies... everything is one click away..
[04:17] <netdaemon> indeed
[04:17] <neghsmoke> jesus christ
[04:17] <bruenig> allah
[04:17] <rioghal> Kluster, I'll admit that Ubuntu is the best distro I have ever tried. This distro amazed me from the first day I used it.
[04:17] <RedStamp> beryl is downloading w00t!
[04:17] <RedStamp> thanks Jorden
[04:18] <neghsmoke> i could finish my novel before i finish the steps in that wiki
[04:18] <Kluster> rioghal, it amazed me too, probably not in the same way though
[04:18] <lotacus> wow
[04:18] <noobcook> ah
[04:18] <user123> -dougsko: inthe preference of streamtuner there is Application in the last line what command i must insert to??
[04:19] <noobcook> anyway anybody know how to rebuild the windows start files threw linux?
[04:19] <varsendagger> hey Kluster don't you have somehitng you need to go compile form scrtch
[04:19] <OzoneCo> any grub specialists here?
[04:19] <rioghal> varsendagger, hehe
[04:19] <varsendagger> noobcook,  what do you mean...   start files?
[04:19] <dougsko> user123: im really not sure. dont open up streamtuner, just type in 'streamripper' , and go from there
[04:19] <lotacus> so I am following this guide to improve ubuntu startup.. basically setting runtime boot processes. in the list is nvidia kernel which is enabled on runlvl 2 3 4 5, however, I don't have any Nvidia card I have ATI.. I should turn this off no? and why was the  nvidia kernel installed in the firstplace?
[04:19] <Kluster> varsendagger, probably.. I hate using unstable ready packages
[04:19] <noobcook> when i boot my windows it goes to the splash screen then i get a blue screen error
[04:19] <noobcook> i know this is because partition magic stuffed up
[04:20] <dtg> anybody got an idea why it won't connect automatically to my router with DHCP, wired, on startup? I have to manually go to Network Settings and disable/activate eth0, and then it connects, it did before. this is on Kubuntu
[04:20] <netdaemon> noobcook, thats what windows does
[04:20] <lotacus> noobcook this is linux chat not windows. :P
[04:20] <varsendagger> have you googled the BSoD  error code?
[04:20] <noobcook> yeah but linux caused it and you guys are way smarter than the weirdos in ##windows =p
[04:20] <bruenig> noobcook, partition magic is bad
[04:20] <noobcook> nobody in there can ansewr my question
[04:20] <rioghal> noobcook, shouldn't that be a hint ;)
[04:20] <varsendagger> linux didn't cause it but we can probably help
[04:20] <noobcook> yeh is ther anyway i can restore the default boot settings
[04:20] <user123> -dougsko: I have to download package streamripper?
[04:21] <noobcook> ok =D
[04:21] <dougsko> lotacus: if you installed the restricted packages, the nvidia driver's in there
[04:21] <dtg> can somebody please help me?
[04:21] <dtg> :)
[04:21] <noobcook> anything but using an install cd because mines broken
[04:21] <DesertEagle> install cd! :D
[04:21] <Bal0o> oh dear.....
[04:21] <lotacus> dougsko: oh ok
[04:21] <Projekt2> noobcook: the short answer ....reinstall windows...or don't install it at all
[04:21] <dougsko> user123: yup
[04:21] <varsendagger> it isn't the boot settings....   there is an error and you need to find out exactlu what that is.
[04:21] <bruenig> noobcook, format and install is the best solution to all your windows needs
[04:21] <Jordan_U> noobcook: ##windows
[04:21] <varsendagger> is it an error like 3x000056?
[04:21] <DesertEagle> :D
[04:21] <dougsko> lotacus: but if you dont use it, you can certainly take it out of your startup scripts
[04:21] <pl_ice> noobcook , use the windows cd, hit repair, all done, its just windows lost the partiion info, , or the MBR got buggered,
[04:22] <rioghal> noobcook, if you reinstall Windows, be ready to do a bit of work getting your grub back
[04:22] <DesertEagle> speaking of grub!
[04:22] <DesertEagle> can anyone help me with graphical screen that wont show up?
[04:22] <DesertEagle> :D
[04:22] <noobcook> i know how to get grub back
[04:22] <noobcook> thats not the issue the issue is i dont have the windows cd =p
[04:22] <klees> is there a way to stop K3b from doing an md5sum check?
[04:22] <DesertEagle> pretty sure there's a checkbox somewhere
[04:22] <noobcook> pl_ice is there anyway i can do that frolm linux i have full acess to my hd
[04:22] <rioghal> noobcook, Then you're one step ahead of other Windows users ;)
[04:22] <dougsko> klees: you can hit the cancel button while its doing it
[04:22] <pl_ice> klees just hit cancel :P
[04:23] <noobcook> i got linux 4 days ago
[04:23] <noobcook> but i only managed to install it last night
[04:23] <noobcook> and i love it
[04:23] <klees> thx guys
[04:23] <dtg> anybody got an idea why it won't connect automatically to my router with DHCP, wired, on startup? I have to manually go to Network Settings and disable/activate eth0, and then it connects, it did before. this is on Kubuntu
[04:23] <corevette> off topic...but is there sometype of visualizer i can burn to advd so it just keeps playing
[04:24] <deebus> anyone know why I can't see the active selection in my grub menu?
[04:24] <Jordan_U> noobcook: I don't use Windows so sombody may correct me, but it may be possible to fix it with free DOS?
[04:24] <pl_ice> not sure noobcook , MBR got backup on disk (couple of them) u have to search how to do that, or look for rescue MBR win XP
[04:24] <malt> anyone know why i can't see nothing on my VNC server with vnc viewer?
[04:24] <malt> it works and asked for pw
[04:24] <malt> but its all black
[04:24] <deebus> sounds like my grub problem :-)
[04:25] <deebus> the current selection is highlighted in black, but the background of the kernels list is black
[04:25] <noobcook> okay cool =)
[04:25] <noobcook> maybe theres a program to do it
[04:25] <chiarato> when I write su it says enter root password witch password is this?
[04:25] <noobcook> thatd be so much better
[04:25] <noobcook> u type sudo chiarato
[04:25] <dougsko> dtg: do you have a line like this in your /etc/network/interfaces? iface eth0 inet dhcp
[04:25] <DesertEagle> chiarato: the password you put when you installed
[04:26] <Jordan_U> noobcook: So you just need to restore the MBR or is it more than that?
[04:26] <chiarato> it says failure?
[04:26] <DesertEagle> errr yeah
[04:26] <rioghal> !sudo | chiarato
[04:26] <ubotu> chiarato: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:26] <DesertEagle> just type sudo <commando>
[04:26] <funlw65> I need help  to activate my Axesstel USB MODEM 3197 - is a Qoalcom CDMA 2000, something like that
[04:26] <noobcook> Jordan_U:  i feel its only MBR but anyway ill just try MBR if that doesnt fix it maybe its the tables
[04:26] <DesertEagle> chiarato: here's a cheat -> sudo bash
[04:26] <deebus> anyone know much about grub?
[04:26] <noobcook> which would b the biggest pain
[04:26] <DesertEagle> :D
[04:27] <pl_ice> any one knows whats the bluetooth pass pin for cell phones?
[04:27] <pl_ice> im getting nuts
[04:27] <DesertEagle> pl_ice it's 3 :D
[04:28] <pl_ice> nope ;/
[04:28] <DesertEagle> you sure?
[04:28] <ciscosurfer> hello everyone!
[04:28] <DesertEagle> hello
[04:28] <noobcook> er am i meant to be installing  libc6-dev libstdc++6-4.1-dev linux-libc-dev  ?
[04:28] <dougsko> hi, ciscosurfer
[04:28] <burepe> selah thanks but I don't know which one of those solutions is for my problem
[04:28] <Projekt2> hi ciscosurfer:
[04:29] <DesertEagle> or how about my problem: grub wont show the pretty screen i setup
[04:29] <pl_ice> DesertEagle just tried, didn't work :/ not sure why,
[04:29] <DesertEagle> pl_ice i was kidding btw :P
[04:29] <DesertEagle> i have no clue
[04:29] <DesertEagle> :D
[04:29] <malt> Also i was installing VNC and got to messing with X, and now my res is stuck at 600 res, how can i fix this?
[04:29] <funlw65>  I need help  to activate my Axesstel USB MODEM 3197 - is a Qualcom CDMA 2000, something like that
[04:29] <pl_ice> DesertEagle i know u were kidding bout #3 but i'm still getting nuts :D
[04:29] <root____> I need help I installed ubuntu it is broken I lost my documents help me
[04:29] <ghost> i just install a Widescreen, screen, and now my ubuntu wont boot (xorg.conf error)  what could i do ?
[04:29] <Jordan_U> root____: Broken How?
[04:29] <pl_ice> i can get comms to the cell but don't know the pin, bloody rubish
[04:30] <facugaich> ghost: use recovery mode?
[04:30] <DesertEagle> malt: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:30] <netdaemon> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:30] <ghost> facugaich to do what ?  how ?
[04:30] <user123> dougsko: Sorry but where is my file that i "probably" create with streamripper?
[04:30] <ciscosurfer> ghost: can you get to a terminal?   (ALT-F1 thru ALT-F6)
[04:30] <root____> Jordan_U: it is broken I had everything on my computer it is gone
[04:30] <DesertEagle> malt: or do Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[04:30] <deebus> anyone?
[04:30] <ghost> ciscosurfer yeas
 currently installing gnome-desktop and related packages, is the next step to make that gdm is installed?
[04:30] <DesertEagle> malt: no!
[04:30] <root____> I had all my videos, the one my mom wasn't supposed to see it's gone
[04:30] <jrib> swx: ubuntu-desktop should install gdm
[04:30] <pl_ice> :D
[04:30] <DesertEagle> malt: i mean Ctrl+Alt Plus sign
[04:30] <DesertEagle> that
[04:30] <Jordan_U> root____: Broken in what way, won't boot, makes funny noises?
[04:31] <swx> thx
[04:31] <ciscosurfer> ghost: can you post the output of::  cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf    >> to the pastebin?
[04:31] <facugaich> ghost: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg maybe
[04:31] <dougsko> ghost: this is usually due to a syntax error in xorg.conf. googling around for working examples would probly be your best bet
[04:31] <ciscosurfer> !pastebin
[04:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:31] <root____> Jordan_U: it is not working it's not loading windows anymore
[04:31] <ghost> ciscosurfer i'm in terminal now, irssi ..
[04:31] <funlw65>  I need help  to activate my Axesstel USB MODEM 3197 - is a Qoalcom CDMA 2000, something like that
[04:31] <root____> it looks weird
[04:31] <black_abaddon> i have a problem with my head, it is big.help
[04:31] <dougsko> user123: you mean, like, where does it save its files?
[04:31] <noobcook> dougsko: whats the command to edit xorg.conf?
[04:32] <dougsko> noobcook: you can use lots of different editors, but nano is probly the easiest
[04:32] <Jordan_U> root____: Did you make sure to choose to resize the windows partition instead of installing over it?
[04:32] <root____> one of my friends said ubuntu was for hackers and I would be elite to use it but it removed windows
[04:32] <noobcook> ok
[04:32] <Projekt2> noobcook: try nano
[04:32] <root____> he lied
[04:32] <varsendagger> noobcook, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   is a gui
[04:32] <rioghal> noobcook, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:32] <dougsko> noobcook: when you get bored someday, run 'vimtutor
[04:32] <noobcook> ok
[04:32] <DesertEagle> root____ elite?
[04:32] <user123> dougsko: yes sorry my little english
[04:32] <Astrozombie> Hello friends, can some one Help me with SoftAp?
[04:33] <varsendagger> vim tutor is awesome
[04:33] <PwnDaWorld> DesertEagle: that's what he said.. he said I would be better with it
[04:33] <ciscosurfer> noobcook: you can also try vim if you're in a terminal....or gedit if you want a GUI in Gnome....remember to add 'sudo' (no quotes) before to edit files with root permissions
[04:33] <DesertEagle> root____ you wouldn't be chatting on IRC logged in as root now would you?
[04:33] <dougsko> noobcook: oops...'vimtutor'. learning to use the vim editor is something you thank yourself for doing
[04:33] <varsendagger> rioghal, ha i beat you
[04:33] <noobcook> ok
[04:33] <Astrozombie> anyone have experience with modded wifi drivers
[04:33] <noobcook> thanks
[04:33] <DesertEagle> PwnDaWorld: doubt anyone's better because they use Ubuntu
[04:33] <varsendagger> noobcook, it is so easy and quick
[04:33] <PwnDaWorld> DesertEagle: what do you mean, this is my computer
[04:34] <varsendagger> DesertEagle, i am better because i use ubuntu
[04:34] <RedStamp> when i type in beryl my system freezes
[04:34] <RedStamp> Stamp> display: :0.0  screen: 0
 OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc.
 OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R300 20060815 AGP 1x TCL
 OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.3 Mesa 6.5.1)
[04:34] <acracker> yeah ubuntu is cool
[04:34] <noobcook> so sudo gedit /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[04:34] <noobcook> therewe go
[04:34] <DesertEagle> pfft, then i'm better than y'all cuz i dual boot
[04:34] <noobcook> hmm
[04:34] <DesertEagle> :D
[04:34] <noobcook> why is this file empty?
[04:34] <acracker> haha im using vmware
[04:34] <ciscosurfer> varsendagger: got that problem taken care of, btw (from yesterday)
[04:34] <dougsko> noobcook: whatd you type?
[04:34] <RedStamp> Can anyone help?
[04:34] <rioghal> noobcook, not a good idea to use sudo with a GUI app, you should use gksu or gksudo with GUI apps, sudo is for CLI apps.
[04:34] <dstaudt> noobcook: capital X in 'X11'
[04:34] <acracker> im running win xp with shell of ubuntu running inside it
 try native emulation with andlinux
[04:35] <noobcook> ah ok ty
[04:35] <dougsko> noobcook: type this -> nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:35] <varsendagger> ciscosurfer, cool...    i remember talking to you ...   what was the problem?
[04:35] <PwnDaWorld> what should I use to remove this ubuntu thing ?
[04:35] <acracker> yeah i've done that before
[04:35] <OzoneCo> i'm running ubuntu with XP in the vmplayer
[04:35] <PwnDaWorld> is there a better linux out there for me to use ?
[04:35] <rioghal> noobcook, More info about that: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[04:35] <Jordan_U> RedStamp: What's up?
[04:35] <ciscosurfer> varsendagger: issue with mss2 (windows media screen 2)
[04:35] <acracker> but its easier to install and  delete os'es that way
[04:35] <varsendagger> DesertEagle, no...   you should emulate
[04:35] <noobcook> hmm
[04:35] <dougsko> PwnDaWorld: no, theyre all really simliar anyway
[04:35] <noobcook> dousko that file is empty also
[04:35] <noobcook> :S
[04:35] <Kluster> PwnDaWorld, sure there is, but it's better for beginners to start with an easy idiot proof distro
[04:35] <acracker> lol ozoneco thats the opposite of me
[04:35] <varsendagger> ahhh yeah     how did you fix it?
 what about the os speed
[04:35] <RedStamp> I followed the page...when I type beryl in it freezes the screen
[04:35] <DesertEagle> pfft y'all suck, i'm gonna be hired next week to change a buncho thin-clients to server side linux
[04:35] <DesertEagle> beat THAT! :D
[04:35] <PwnDaWorld> Kluster:Mine isn't working
[04:36] <ciscosurfer> varsendagger: using mplayer (to mess with command line stuff and options) and got it to work
 well it is much slower and all
[04:36] <Kluster> PwnDaWorld, ok maybe not idiot proof then
[04:36] <acracker> but for other uses, i like it
[04:36] <varsendagger> nice mplayer is amazing
[04:36] <ciscosurfer> varsendagger: yippee!
[04:36] <ciscosurfer> indeed!
[04:36] <popflop> Hey all.
 your right it is easy to use and flexible
[04:36] <ciscosurfer> ever taken a look at the man pages for it??
[04:36] <PwnDaWorld> Kluster: do you run ubuntu ?
[04:36] <ciscosurfer> man mplayer     >>    wow!
[04:36] <dougsko> noobcook: its empty!? hmm...im not sure whats up with that
[04:36] <Kluster> PwnDaWorld, of course not, but a dumb friend of mine is..
[04:36] <noobcook> is this bad?
[04:36] <noobcook> :S
[04:37] <varsendagger> Kluster, uses all of them...   his fav is gentoo
[04:37] <OzoneCo> acracker: i saw that....got a vm server 2000 as well....trying to build a virtual lan
[04:37] <acracker> nice
[04:37] <noobcook> is it safe to save values in it?
[04:37] <acracker> what are you going to use it for?
[04:37] <PwnDaWorld> is gentoo really better ?
[04:37] <noobcook> eg Section "Extensions"
[04:37] <noobcook>         Option  "Composite" "Disable"
[04:37] <noobcook> EndSection
[04:37] <Spaghetti_Knife> Hi, my dvd's are running now, but I don't know how to choose which application to open them with.
[04:37] <dstaudt> noobcook: that looks right
[04:37] <RedStamp> it says something about Nvideo absent
[04:37] <Spaghetti_Knife> When I right-click on the DVD icon, it just shows "open," as if it were just a folder.
[04:37] <RedStamp> Nvidia*
[04:37] <Kluster> PwnDaWorld, yeah, but stick to this one first.. then when you get better leave for a better distro.. easy switch is debian
[04:37] <Spaghetti_Knife> How do I make it play with mPlayer?
[04:38] <acracker> hey how do i pm someone so that my name lights up on their screen?
[04:38] <Spaghetti_Knife> I wanna change the language options and stuff.
[04:38] <PwnDaWorld> Kluster: why should I use this one first then if it's worst
[04:38] <DesertEagle> pfft if y'all aint running vmware in raw disk mode, y'all NOTHING
[04:38] <DesertEagle> :P
[04:38] <Spaghetti_Knife> Right now, they play with Totem, and that's no good.
 I tested edgy a couple of days in it and realize that the most fastest way to run it was in native
[04:38] <dougsko> PwnDaWorld: use gentoo if you want to spend all day compiling crap, use anything else if you actually want to get work done :)
[04:38] <Kluster> PwnDaWorld, you got a point there, but never mind
[04:38] <mvfeinstein> can anyone tell me where the file with the gnome keymap is store?
[04:38] <Falstius> Spaghetti_Knife: vlc is generally better than mplayer for interacting with DVDs (in my opinion)
[04:38] <Music_Shuffle> Erm.  Can we refrain from bashing the distro this channel is supposed to support?
[04:38] <DesertEagle> ubuntu rocks! :D
[04:38] <ciscosurfer> mplayer rocks!
[04:38] <Spaghetti_Knife> Falstius: How do I open the DVD with vlc if it always autoruns with Totem?
[04:38] <Jordan_U> acracker: Just put their nick in your comment like I just did with you ( see the acracker: at the beginning )
[04:38] <ciscosurfer> vlc rocks, too!  haha
[04:39] <effie_jayx> PwnDaWorld,  and ask the guys over at #gentoo ... maybe they know
[04:39] <rioghal> acracker, First of all, you might wanna register or ID your nick so the person you PM will see it if they are ID's.
[04:39] <noobcook> dstaudt im going to update my graphics card driver, is there a failsafe command i can use incase the driver doesnt work so i can reset to what im using now?
[04:39] <Falstius> Spaghetti_Knife: you can change that easily, one second and I'll tell you how.
[04:39] <|thunder> how do I play a .pd file? I think its a video
[04:39] <Spaghetti_Knife> Okay.
[04:39] <Spaghetti_Knife> Thanks/.
[04:39] <bronson> I "ejected" my hard drive using Nautilus.
[04:39] <acracker> ahh thanks
[04:39] <bronson> Is there any way to remount it without rebooting?
[04:39] <dstaudt> noobcook, you can copy xorg.conf to a backup file 'maybe xorg.conf_bak'
[04:39] <DesertEagle> bronson: yup
[04:39] <Jordan_U> bronson: Yes
[04:39] <dstaudt> then if you restart and X fails, you can copy it back
[04:39] <Jordan_U> !mount | bronson
[04:39] <ubotu> bronson: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:40] <noobcook> nah wont matter i can manualy remove the entries
[04:40] <bronson> !DiskMounter
[04:40] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[04:40] <DesertEagle> bronson: if it's in the /etc/fstab then just type "mount /media/whateverthehell"
[04:40] <Falstius> Spaghetti_Knife: go to system->preferences->removable drives and media preferences->multimedia tab and then change totem to vlc.  Oh, and install vlc (sudo apt-get install vlc)
[04:40] <noobcook> brb im gona try
[04:40] <varsendagger> PwnDaWorld, you need to get the hang of linux in an easy to use form...   where it is able to still do what you want to do......     it is kinda easy to mess things up if you do things wrong.....    and you need to learn how things work if you do want to use gentoo.
[04:40] <deebus> can anyone help me with my grub question?
[04:40] <noobcook> wish me luck
[04:40] <deebus> good luck
[04:40] <deebus> we're all counting on you
[04:40] <ciscosurfer> deebus: go ahead...
[04:40] <DesertEagle> i have faith in you brother!
[04:40] <Jordan_U> deebus: What's the question again?
[04:41] <bronson> DesertEagle: it isn't in fstab.  It's external.
[04:41] <varsendagger> Kluster, am i right?
[04:41] <popflop> Hey guys I'm new to linux. I just finished installing Edgy and I ahve a question. I think my PC Card slot isn't working. My wireless card's lights are not on or anything. I tried using ndiswrapper but when I do "ndiswrapper -l" it says the driver is invalid and I think it's cause my pcmcia slot isn't working. any ideas?
[04:41] <noobcook> oh btw whats the good mp3 player for linux
[04:41] <noobcook> xxm or mmx or something
[04:41] <mytankisfight> In order to get my wireless card working i need to  install the 'build-essentials' and 'kernel headers' packages from the apt repositories, but how can i do them if i an't get on the internet !!
[04:41] <memic> audacious
[04:41] <acracker> yeah when i had ubuntu installed in a dual boot with windows I got xgl and beryl working, somewhat
[04:41] <AmaroqWolf> XMMS
[04:41] <ciscosurfer> xmms
[04:41] <memic> xmms=old crap ;)
[04:41] <Falstius> mytankisfight: they are on the CD ...
[04:41] <dougsko> noobcook: amarok is pretty cool too
[04:41] <acracker> haha, it sometimes worked
[04:41] <ciscosurfer> exaile > much better!
[04:42] <DesertEagle> memic hey hey hey :( i'm not old
[04:42] <AmaroqWolf> XMMS is the only one that plays mp3's for me.
[04:42] <mytankisfight> ^^
[04:42] <Wicho> hello hello
[04:42] <noobcook> whats the best?
[04:42] <dstaudt> mytankisfight, those packages are found on the install CD
[04:42] <mytankisfight> thankyou very much
[04:42] <dougsko> noobcook: try 'em all out and decide for yourself. theyre only an apt-get away :)
[04:43] <DesertEagle> memic it's reliable :)
[04:43] <noobcook> mm ok
[04:43] <noobcook> wait before i try this
[04:43] <DesertEagle> noobcook: you like winamp?
[04:43] <mytankisfight> ok i don't know much about linux, can u give me a brief run down of installing these of cd please :)
[04:43] <noobcook> sudo gedit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[04:43] <dstaudt> noobcook, XMMS is a good winamp equivalent, listen and amorak are two good library/browser types
[04:43] <memic> DesertEagle no it isnt
[04:43] <memic> is full of bugs
[04:43] <TTT_Travis> I need to reconfigure php5 with --enable-simplexml on ubuntu how do I do this?
[04:43] <DesertEagle> nuh uh!
[04:43] <noobcook> should restricted modules look like this
[04:43] <noobcook> DISABLED_MODULES=""
[04:43] <noobcook> DISABLED_MODULES="somemodule2 fglrx"
[04:43] <Spaghetti_Knife> 5v335, Falstius.
[04:43] <dstaudt> noobcook, songbird looks very very cool, but is too new and unstable for now
[04:43] <Spaghetti_Knife> Thank you!
[04:43] <popflop> Umm, how can I tell if my computer is seeing the wireless card I have in my PC Card slot?
[04:43] <noobcook> unstable works for me
[04:43] <DesertEagle> memic: when have you had problems with it?
[04:43] <Jordan_U> Is there a way to play Quicktime Movies that reference external files ( I have already looked at the restricted formats wiki and tried VLC xine and mplayer )
[04:44] <AmaroqWolf> dstaudt, only XMMS works for me when it comes to playing mp3's. I've tried installing everything I could think of.
[04:44] <PwnDaWorld> you're right, gentoo people told me it was a better distro
[04:44] <Music_Shuffle> .......lol.
[04:44] <memic> DesertEagle yes
[04:44] <acracker> but gentoo is extremly hard to install and configure, so i've heard
[04:44] <deebus> sorry guys...helping someone else out
[04:44] <memic> DesertEagle its not developt for years?
[04:44] <Falstius> Spaghetti_Knife: one thing about VLC is it doesn't turn on deinterlace with some DVDs made from TV shows, but you can turn it on from the video menu easily.
[04:44] <rioghal> xmms is cool.. and there's a ton of skins: http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=130
[04:44] <netdaemon> acracker, complete bs if you know how to read
[04:44] <deebus> the currently highlighted selection on my grub menu is highlighted in black.  so now I can't actually *see* the currently highlighted selection :-P
[04:44] <PwnDaWorld> another guy in another channel told me debian was more stable than ubuntu, is it true ?
[04:44] <dstaudt> AmaroqWolf, i've tried many different players with mp3 working, so it's possible
[04:44] <acracker> netdaemon, what do you mean?
[04:44] <memic> audacious is a xmms recode
[04:44] <DesertEagle> memic: i've never had issues with it.... that's odd
[04:45] <memic> you can even use the skins
[04:45] <PwnDaWorld> he told me ubuntu was based off the debian unstable version.. so it couldn't be as stable
[04:45] <netdaemon> acracker, just like any linux distro you have to research
[04:45] <dstaudt> i tend to use 'unsupported scripts' to set up all my non-free stuff though, so i can't advise much
[04:45] <bronson> Jordan_U, DesertEagle: ubotu claims that it was possible under Dapper.  Under Edgy, System -> Administration -> Disks is gone and there's no replacement.
[04:45] <Crescendo_> Why is sound bad quality when PCM volume is all the way up?  I have to turn it most of the way down to get good loud sound from my speakers
[04:45] <bronson> Looks like it's impossible.
[04:45] <Falstius> PwnDaWorld: do you want to use 5 year old software?
[04:45] <rioghal> PwnDaWorld, if Ubuntu works for your, does it really matter who's distro is more stable?
[04:45] <elyon225> Are there any other distributions that you guys would suggest for new Linux users?
[04:45] <bronson> I'm not going to put a removable HD in my fstab.
[04:45] <Music_Shuffle> PwnDaWorld, News flash: others will tell you their distro is best.  Make your own mind up.
[04:45] <PwnDaWorld> Falstius: what do you mean ?
[04:45] <OzoneCo> i need to put grub back on MBR, easiest way?
[04:45] <memic> DesertEagle looks the same but is better
[04:45] <acracker> netdaemon, yeah, but how much research compared to other distros?
[04:45] <netdaemon> not to mention there new installer makes it easy to install
[04:45] <DesertEagle> elyon225 mandrake
[04:45] <AmaroqWolf> dstaudt, I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I've installed every package under the sun, that I know of anyway. lol. I can't play avi's either. They play, but there's sound and no video.
[04:45] <N6REJ> in the server version of UB 6.10 if you forget to tell it LAMP does it still install LAMP?
[04:45] <DesertEagle> memic which one?
[04:45] <netdaemon> s/there/their
[04:46] <dougsko> elyon225: kanotix was my first distro, but its debian based too, so its really not much different from ubuntu
[04:46] <DesertEagle> bronson: why not?
[04:46] <netdaemon> acracker, like i said, if you can read, you can install gentoo
[04:46] <elyon225> dougsko: Is it more stable than Ubuntu, though?
[04:46] <memic> DesertEagle audacious
[04:46] <Falstius> PwnDaWorld: the reason debian stable is to stable is because it is tested for a very very long time before it gets distributed.  So the software is always very out of date (by definition).
[04:46] <netdaemon> just know your hardware
[04:46] <DesertEagle> bronson: you can put it there through UUID
[04:46] <jessid> is it possible to write some ntfs file system from Ubuntu?
[04:46] <elyon225> dougsko: I have yet to go through one session of Ubuntu where something doesn't crash...
[04:46] <netdaemon> for when you compile a kernel
[04:46] <DesertEagle> jessid: yes
[04:46] <dougsko> elyon225: sure its stable
[04:46] <acracker> netdaemon, where can I get a guide for installing gentoo?
[04:46] <DesertEagle> jessid: look up ntfs-3g
[04:46] <Jordan_U> Crescendo It is probably clipping, when everything is above the max volume everything plays at the same max volume, which makes things sound horribly distorted
[04:46] <DesertEagle> !ntfs-3g
[04:46] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[04:47] <netdaemon> acracker, the gentoo handbook of course
[04:47] <dougsko> elyon225: i dont know why youd have so many crashes though in ubuntu. are you running feisty or something?
[04:47] <OzoneCo> elyon225: hardware issues?
[04:47] <netdaemon> its right on there site
[04:47] <malt> I did a fresh ubuntu install earler, and it had gnome and installed, and everything working fine a nice 1024 res to. Then i got to messing with VNC, and it totally messed my RES up to 600 x, and it will not let me change it to 1024, and this is a old laptop. I don't even know half the specs to it, and that sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg command asks why to much hardware questions that i don't know. So will ubuntu not auto detect my specs now, like
[04:47] <DesertEagle> jessid: i use it without problems so far
[04:47] <ciscosurfer> OzoneCo: here's a good link to check out:: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?highlight=%28windows%29
[04:47] <elyon225> dougsko: No.  I'm running Edgy
[04:47] <AmaroqWolf> acracker, you should probablyl go into a gentoo IRC room rather than an ubuntu one. lol.
[04:47] <acracker> netdaemon, huh, I've never heard of it before, excuse my ignorance though because im a noob
[04:47] <Music_Shuffle> lol
[04:47] <elyon225> OzoneCo: I have no idea what's causing these crashes.
[04:47] <acracker> netdaemon, true lol
[04:47] <OzoneCo> ciscosurfer: thnx
[04:47] <popflop> Umm, how can I tell if my computer is seeing the wireless card I have in my PC Card slot?
[04:47] <netdaemon> acracker, just a moment...
[04:47] <ciscosurfer> OzoneCo: sure
[04:47] <Jordan_U> popflop: lspci
[04:47] <elyon225> OzoneCo: They're very random (firefox, amarok, amule).  But the entire system crashes almost everytime I log out.
[04:47] <popflop> thx Jordan
[04:47] <jessid> DesertEagle thanks I am looking for ntfs-3g
[04:48] <noobcook> whts the com to download songbird on apt get
[04:48] <netdaemon> acracker, pm
[04:48] <PwnDaWorld> so if debian is superior than ubuntu, why use ubutu.. I don't get it.  it all eludes me.  linux people are weird
[04:48] <acracker> netdaemon, yeah?
[04:48] <N6REJ> elyon225: check your hardware against the compatibility list.  I've never had that happen to me.
[04:48] <dstaudt> noobcook, it's not in the ubuntu repositories, you'll have to download and install it manually
[04:48] <Projekt2> popflop: what kind of wireless card are you running?
[04:48] <dougsko> elyon225: well dont think its like a "core" ubuntu problem. its most likely just buggy software thats running on top. ive gone months without a crash or reboot
[04:48] <popflop> Sweet, it is showing up.
[04:48] <rioghal> noobcook, songbird isn't in the repos
[04:48] <popflop> MotorolaWN825g
[04:48] <AmaroqWolf> PwnDaWorld, ubuntu was built off of debian.
[04:48] <Falstius> PwnDaWorld: Ubuntu is a compromise between stability and new software.
[04:48] <Jordan_U> PwnDaWorld: No distro is superior at everything, they all have their place
[04:48] <netdaemon> did you get the pm?
[04:49] <elyon225> dougsko: That's what everyone keeps saying... but I've had to reinstall Ubuntu twice now and it hasn't been stable yet.
[04:49] <noobcook> ok
[04:49] <acracker> netdaemon, yeah thanks
[04:49] <dstaudt> netdaemon, PMs are disabled in this channel for most people
[04:49] <Kluster> PwnDaWorld, ubuntu IS (kinda) debian.. it's a fork of debian sid (unstable)
[04:49] <popflop> Everything I've read says I have to use ndiswrapper
[04:49] <OzoneCo> elyon225: not until loggin out? system stable rest of the time?
[04:49] <dstaudt> hmm...i thought?
[04:49] <AmaroqWolf> PwnDaWorld, ubuntu is to debian as c++ is to c. lol
[04:49] <noobcook> oh and whats the command to enable the universe section of repositories?
[04:49] <netdaemon> dstaudt, pms are disabled for those who arn't identified ;)
[04:49] <Kluster> Amallya, not really, c++ is superior
[04:49] <dstaudt> gotcha :)
[04:49] <ciscosurfer> noobcook: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/songbird
[04:49] <Falstius> AmaroqWolf: so either you know little about Debian or C++? ;)
[04:49] <AmaroqWolf> xD
[04:49] <elyon225> OzoneCo: The system itself?  I guess so... but I get software crashes constantly. (I think Synaptic is the only app I've used that hasn't crashed at least once)
[04:49] <hakrzcode> Kluster: do not feed the troll.
[04:49] <AmaroqWolf> I know little about c or c++
[04:50] <popflop> I installed it with the driver from my cd but it says "invalid driver!" when I do ndiswrapper -l
[04:50] <Kluster> hakrzcode, c++ is a lot different from c
[04:50] <AmaroqWolf> and I don't know anything about debian either. lol
[04:50] <dougsko> elyon225: just like what Falstius said, "Ubuntu is a compromise between stability and new software." . I run dapper and use dont use any backports, for the most part, i dont have the highest version numbers of programs out there, but the upside is that they dont crash very much
[04:50] <AmaroqWolf> I was just guessing ubuntu is an upgrade of sorts
[04:50] <Falstius> does anyone else find that flash is crashing firefox a lot recently?
[04:50] <dougsko> Falstius: yeah but it always has :/
[04:51] <hakrzcode> kluster: I meant the one that is trying to start a flame, about ubuntu.
[04:51] <N6REJ> guys, I know this is probably a dumb Q but its been a while since I've done a Ubuntu install.  I'm installing the server distro and forgot to type LAMP at start.  Will it still do the LAMP software or do I need to do it manually now?
[04:51] <acracker> are there any free programs that would let me run windows games on ubuntu?
[04:51] <toulouse> i heard debian got it's name from the guy who made it: his name was ian, and his girlfriend's name was debra, so it became "deb" "ian" -->debian
[04:51] <Falstius> dougsko: I swear it happens more often now.  Study fricking flash.
[04:51] <dougsko> Falstius: does it just disapear sometimes when you click a link or something?
[04:51] <dstaudt> !wine | acracker
[04:51] <ubotu> acracker: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:51] <Kluster> There is a ubuntu server distro ?
[04:51] <Falstius> er stupid.
[04:51] <Bruco16> falstius: i used epiphany since
[04:51] <AmaroqWolf> xD I heard that too
[04:51] <AmaroqWolf> but I think it was his wife, not his gf.
[04:51] <toulouse> oh
[04:51] <toulouse> wtver
[04:51] <dougsko> Kluster: yeah, its just ubuntu w/o a desktop package
[04:51] <toulouse> same idea :)
[04:51] <dougsko> netdaemon: why not?
[04:51] <Kluster> dougsko, lmao
[04:52] <Falstius> dougsko: no, it freezes and I have to kill it.  I figured out why it was crashing without messages earlier (stored passwords on 1 site)
[04:52] <user123> for the community to record streaming radio type in the terminal mplayer -dumpfile <file name.wav> -dumpstream <URL>. enjoy! Bye!
[04:52] <dougsko> Falstius: ah
[04:52] <acracker> dstaudt, I know that runs some windows programs, but will it run a high end game like, Oblivion?
[04:52] <noobcook>  whats the command to enable the universe section of repositories?
[04:52] <elyon225> dougsko: Sounds bad to say this, but Windows has always been infinitely more stable for me than Linux... and I really want to get it worked out so I don't need to go back the MS route.
[04:52] <netdaemon> dougsko, i feel ubuntu is reserved for handing to introducing people to the world of linux, not for hard work
[04:52] <rioghal> !universe | noobcook
[04:52] <ubotu> noobcook: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:52] <Falstius> Bruco16: does it actually handle flash better?
[04:52] <toulouse> how do i do an action message like netdaemon did?
[04:52] <N6REJ> noobcook, look in synaptic and you'll see an option to enable repositories.
[04:52] <toulouse> where it's like * somehting somethign
[04:52] <noobcook> ok
[04:52] <ciscosurfer> noobcook: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/sources
[04:52] <dstaudt> acracker, it's what there is for free...there are for-sale products: cedega and crossover office, that offer some more capabilities, i.e. better directx support
[04:52] <dougsko> netdaemon: meh, thats just the crowd it attracts, that doesnt really reflect on what it can or cant do
[04:53] <netdaemon> toulouse, /query user
[04:53] <Bruco16> falstius: i think, at least, the browser is not crashing
[04:53] <conver2> does ubuntu recognize usb drives? like connecting a digicam??
[04:53] <acracker> dstaudt, ahh I see, thanks
[04:53] <N6REJ> grrrrrrrrrrrrr.... failed install
[04:53] <dougsko> netdaemon: you could be on ubuntu server edition, and if i told you it was debian, youd never know the difference
[04:53] <riotkittie> conver2: it picks mine up
[04:53] <Bruco16> falstius: epiphany take well java too
[04:53] <netdaemon> dougsko, the release cycle is a bit insane for server use, you'd be doing upgrades every 6 months
[04:53] <elyon225> conver2: Sometimes ;)
[04:53] <elyon225> conver2: It will for me one day, but not the next.
[04:53] <dougsko> netdaemon: oh yeah, the release cycle is crazy, thank god for the LTS versions
[04:54] <netdaemon> dougsko, i'd no
[04:54] <toulouse> netdaemon: that didnt work-- i mean when you said "*netdaemon would not use ubuntu server"
[04:54] <sidny4> yay for dapper
[04:54] <netdaemon> because su would be gone, and thats my prefered method
[04:54] <toulouse> like riotkittie just did
[04:54] <Kluster> netdaemon, but I wouldn't go as far as use it for server use for this reason
[04:54] <toulouse> riotkittie: how do you do that message thing" riotkittie hugs dapper"
[04:55] <riotkittie> toulouse: /me
[04:55] <toulouse> oh
[04:55] <toulouse> ok
[04:55] <toulouse> thx
[04:55] <elyon225> SO Mandrake would be a good distro to try switching to?
[04:55] <dstaudt> toulouse, '/me hugs dapper'
[04:55] <dstaudt> lol
[04:55] <varsendagger> elyon225, what is mandrake?
[04:55] <Kluster> elyon225, as much as I sometimes dislike ubuntu, NO mandrake is a step backwards :)
[04:55] <riotkittie> elyon225: what do you mean by 'good' ... ? elaborate
[04:55] <KezK> I think Mandrake you need to register to get apps
[04:55] <DesertEagle> mandrake is now mandriva btw
[04:55] <DesertEagle> no?
[04:55] <netdaemon> heh
[04:55] <sidny4> varsendagger: mandriva
[04:55] <acracker> isnt it called mandriva now?
[04:55] <riotkittie> mandrake -> mandriva
[04:55] <DesertEagle> ok FINE i'm old :(
[04:55] <elyon225> riotkittie: Something that doesn't crash on me every day, several times a day...
[04:56] <KezK> oh yeah Mandriva
[04:56] <KezK> I installed it last night
[04:56] <dougsko> elyon225: you might like that. it uses RPMs for its package system, which is a little different. but they have live cd's for everything now, so its easy to try
[04:56] <toulouse> elyon225: check out dreamlinux, i like the mac-like interface of xcfe
[04:56] <Bruco16> i think mandriva is selling boxes
[04:56] <Bruco16> and trial version (NOT sure)
[04:56] <KezK> Actually there is a liveCD so you can testdrive it
[04:56] <Bruco16> yeah
[04:56] <riotkittie> walmart.com used to sell mandrake boxes
[04:56] <dougsko> thats pretty awesome
[04:56] <popflop> Anyone have a second to help me with a wireless question real quick?
[04:56] <toulouse> elyon225: i only test drove dreamlinux, but im going to install it soonn
[04:56] <DesertEagle> that's how i started with linux
[04:56] <elyon225> dougsko: Yeah, if Gnome Baker doesn't crash on me while trying to burn the live cd ;)
[04:57] <DesertEagle> one of those boxes
[04:57] <dougsko> elyon225: hehe
[04:57] <riotkittie> what - from walmart.com?
[04:57] <DesertEagle> yep
[04:57] <ciscosurfer> popflop: shoot...
[04:57] <DesertEagle> no, actual store
[04:57] <noobcook> is this right?
[04:57] <noobcook> bash ./ati-driver-installer-8.33.6-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg ubuntu/edgy
[04:57] <dougsko> dell sells "red flag linux" loaded boxes to china
[04:57] <rioghal> Mandriva is free. You pay for the PowerPack and PowerPack+ versions and, yes, they do (or were at one time) selling Mandriva preloaded computers.
[04:57] <dstaudt> check out http://distrowatch.com for descriptions, reviews, popularity rankings, etc. of various unix-like distros
[04:57] <riotkittie> DesertEagle: i was so tempted to get one of those! but i never did
[04:57] <DesertEagle> riotkittie got it back in version 6
[04:57] <DesertEagle> :P
[04:58] <elyon225> The problem is, there's no way to preserve all my settings when installing a different distro, right?
[04:58] <DesertEagle> nope
[04:58] <elyon225> grr
[04:58] <DesertEagle> everything's GONE
[04:58] <riotkittie> IIRC, they were pretty decent machines... in terms of specs and price
[04:58] <DesertEagle> LOST
[04:58] <DesertEagle> MUAAHAHHAHAHA
[04:58] <netdaemon> elyon225, keep a separate /home partiition
[04:58] <Bruco16> my Dell machine is tighly tight; i din't like it... i can't even put a second HDrive in it
[04:58] <dstaudt> elyon225, i've heard you can keep a partition separate for your /home
[04:58] <rioghal> elyon225, You can backup all the files in your $HOME.
[04:58] <DesertEagle> riotkittie: oh wait, you mean a PC?
[04:58] <dougsko> elyon225: you can save your settings to a usb drive or something and then load them again later
[04:58] <riotkittie> yeah, DesertEagle.
[04:58] <DesertEagle> damn... i was thinking a boxed store bought CD distro
[04:58] <DesertEagle> :P
[04:58] <netdaemon> separate home partition easier
[04:59] <elyon225> dougsko: And that would just be saving the /home directory?  All my users and such will be saved?
[04:59] <Kluster> separate home partition safer
[04:59] <riotkittie> hehehehe. no. actual computers. think they were desktops only. for about $200.
[04:59] <netdaemon> elyon225, you have to create the users again
[04:59] <noobcook> hmm its not working
[04:59] <pibarnas> my gnome-session is restarting by itself, without I am doing anything... any ideas about that sort of thing?
[04:59] <elyon225> Yeah, a separate /home partition would have been nice to know about BEFORE installing ;)
[04:59] <Crescendo_> Why is sound bad quality when PCM volume is all the way up?  I have to turn it most of the way down to get good loud sound from my speakers
[04:59] <netdaemon> just make sure its not formated :P
[04:59] <dougsko> elyon225: well it depends, i think knoppix and the like save other things, not your whole home dir
[04:59] <dstaudt> Crescendo, i think i have the same problem
[05:00] <elyon225> lol maybe I should just head back to windows...
[05:00] <riotkittie> i downloaded mandrake way back when. i think it was v7. never installed it. then i got mandriva discs mailed to me somehow.
[05:00] <pibarnas> my gnome-session is restarting by itself, without I am doing anything... any ideas about that sort of thing?
[05:00] <dougsko> elyon225: whats wrong with ubuntu?! you just got here :)
[05:00] <theflyingfool_> why is my resolution really messed up, i have it set up properly in xorg.conf
[05:00] <theflyingfool_> its looks like a fish eye
[05:00] <dstaudt> elyon225, i played with ubuntu under vmware on windows for a long time...best of both worlds
[05:00] <elyon225> dougsko: No, I've been using Ubuntu for 3 or 4 weeks now... and have had a TON of problems with it.
[05:00] <Kluster> pibarnas, check the log more info would be useful
[05:01] <dougsko> elyon225: im sorry to hear that :/
[05:01] <elyon225> dougsko: The main one that sticks out right now is the crashing when logging out.  And no one in here has seemed to know why.
[05:01] <dstaudt> elyon225, sounds like maybe your hardware doesn't like linux...bad ram maybe
[05:01] <Bruco16> elyon225: at least now you can fix them!
[05:01] <jessid> !beryl
[05:01] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[05:01] <DesertEagle> how do i make a link to a mounted partition all pretty like the stock ones on the desktop?
[05:01] <toulouse> i just have audio /video problems
[05:01] <KezK> eylon, if you have a lot of graphics problems, I would check out dapper drake version
[05:01] <DesertEagle> just change the icon?
[05:02] <dougsko> elyon225: yeah dapper's a little older, but it seems to be a lot more stable
[05:02] <elyon225> KezK: I don't really have any graphics problems.  My ATI card has been working fine (3D and all)
[05:02] <riotkittie> dapper's been good to me.
[05:02] <elyon225> dougsko: Dapper is 6.06?
[05:02] <KezK> OH OK thats good to hear eylon
[05:02] <dougsko> elyon225: yep
[05:02] <elyon225> dougsko: Ha.  I threw that disc away when I burned Edgy
[05:02] <dougsko> elyon225: haha
[05:02] <sexshun> can someone explain to me what (network and broadcast) do in the etc/interface config file
[05:02] <OzoneCo> i just blew all the mess away...gonna reinstall
[05:02] <elyon225> Figured it was just an update that would be recommended.
[05:02] <Bruco16> what happens when you buy a graph card, insert it and start the machine?
[05:02] <riotkittie> ubuntu's not the distro i'd have chosen if i'd  had discs on hand back then, but eh.
[05:03] <Kluster> sexshun, network is the network mask and broadcast is the broadcast address
[05:03] <dougsko> OzoneCo: man interfaces
[05:03] <conver2> if I install amd64 version.  are all apps in that cd 64bit?
[05:03] <KezK> I think Dapper drake is better in terms of wireless connection management and also graphics stability
[05:03] <KezK> conver - yes that is right
[05:03] <magez_> !bluefish
[05:03] <ubotu> bluefish: advanced Gtk+ HTML editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.6-1 (edgy), package size 1568 kB, installed size 6728 kB
[05:03] <theflyingfool_> does anyone know what needs to be changed to get resoution working properly
[05:04] <dougsko> dapper rules, ive never had any of the problems with graphics and stuff a lot of other people on newer versions seem to run into
[05:04] <KezK> conver2 - the main difference is I found is you cant use flash... you can play yahoo pool
[05:04] <sexshun> Kluster,if network is the network mast then what is netmask
[05:04] <dougsko> theflyingfool_: /etc/X11/xorg.cong
[05:04] <noobcook>  should i generate distribution specific drive package or just try to install? anyone?
[05:04] <elyon225> dougsko: I'd like to stick with Ubuntu... but I'm confused about a few things too.  Such as, small changes that I make... they seem to damage the system.  And I don't have the knowledge to reverse those changes.
[05:04] <Kluster> sexshun, oops... netmask is the network mask
[05:04] <Kluster> sorry
[05:04] <magez_> absolutly amazing skript! ubotu, nice
[05:04] <theflyingfool_> dougsko: my xorg.conf is right, its just not allowing me to use the proper resolution
[05:04] <elyon225> dougsko: I guess its a common problem with newb Linux users... its all very daunting.
[05:04] <DesertEagle> like changing your window manager to Openbox
[05:04] <DesertEagle> i can't seem to get that right :(
[05:05] <elyon225> dougsko: If I could get this crashing thing under control, I'd be fine.
[05:05] <noobcook> dougsko:  should i generate distribution specific drive package or just try to install?
[05:05] <sexshun> Kluster,so what is network
[05:05] <DesertEagle> or getting a pretty icon on your desktop for a hdd
[05:05] <DesertEagle> anyone care to help me with those? :D
[05:05] <dougsko> elyon225: yeah it definately is, youll have one headache after another for a while, but youll learn a ton in the process. AND youve got us to help walk you through it :)
[05:06] <dougsko> noobcook:  im not sure what youre doing
[05:06] <elyon225> dougsko: The past few days that I came in here asking for help with the system crash, I was met with real jerks that told me I was asking the wrong questions and crap.
[05:06] <noobcook> dougsko:  installing ati drivers
[05:06] <dougsko> elyon225: when it crashes, does it *really* crash? like what happens?
[05:06] <DesertEagle> oh yeah, or getting vmware-server to install after you've tried vmware-server-console
[05:07] <DesertEagle> keeps aborting :(
[05:07] <Kluster> sexshun, network is basically the ip with the netmask.. bit to bit AND
[05:07] <elyon225> dougsko: When I log out, the screen goes white (a couple of different shade areas are present on the screen), the mouse locks up, and the keyboard shortcuts (Ctrl-Alt-F2, etc), do nothing.  The system needs to be restarted.
[05:07] <theflyingfool_> how do i install the ATI drivers?
[05:07] <dougsko> noobcook: im not sure, but i think you can just apt-get them. use synaptic and search for "ati", pick the one that seems right, and install it. even if it doesnt work, its easy to uninstall
[05:07] <theflyingfool_> or what is the package name i guess is the real question
[05:08] <noobcook> dougsko: whats the install revert code
[05:08] <netdaemon> weee
[05:08] <dougsko> noobcook: im not sure what you mean
[05:08] <dragonfyre13> ls
[05:08] <dragonfyre13> sorry. habit.
[05:09] <dragonfyre13> I have a question about alsa
[05:09] <noobcook> dougsko: sorry whats the command from console so i can uninstall the driver
[05:09] <noobcook> just incase i reboot and cant get on irc
[05:09] <DesertEagle> so anyone know how to get Ubuntu to put a pretty icon of my partition on the desktop?
[05:09] <DesertEagle> noobcook: also, get bitchx
[05:09] <DesertEagle> CLI IRC client
[05:09] <dougsko> noobcook: you can uninstall it from synaptic, or form the CLI, sudo apt-get remove <package>
[05:10] <dragonfyre13> The sound card is detected, and everything is functioning in oss, but alsa gets an error that says "cannot open resource for writing"
[05:10] <noobcook> ah k thanks
[05:10] <Kluster> noobcook, or weechat, or irssi
[05:10] <daleth> Have I gone mad, or is us.archive.ubuntu.com REALLY slow?
[05:10] <Kirok> ah not bitchx its for supposed '1337' people get irssi if you want a text client
[05:10] <dougsko> elyon225: have you looked through /var/log/kern.log, or /var/log/messages at all? there might be a clue as to whats happening there
[05:10] <DesertEagle> c'mon people, it's just an icon! :D
[05:10] <rioghal> daleth, The US linkis are really slow right now.. I am seeing lots of folks reporting this on the forums.
[05:10] <DesertEagle> help me out here :D
[05:11] <conver2> i lose ping connection to one of my pcs running ubuntu.  howeverm i can ping outside from that pc....  anyone knows what could be the problem
[05:11] <noobcook> bitchx i hear is good
[05:11] <dougsko> irssi + bitlbee + screen = ill communication
[05:11] <elyon225> dougsko: I looked at /var/log/messages... didn't see anything that would suggest a crash to me (but I don't know much either)
[05:11] <VanbaoCH> ?
[05:11] <noobcook> im going to try merge a program with bitchx
[05:11] <noobcook> but not today
[05:11] <elyon225> dougsko: As for kern.log, I was never told to look there ;)
[05:11] <dougsko> elyon225: if theres anything good in there, it should stick out somewhat
[05:11] <DesertEagle> anyone care to help a brother out? :D
[05:11] <riotkittie> irssi is sweet.
[05:12] <conver2> anyone knows how I can log errors from the ethernet card?
[05:12] <daleth> rioghal Any idea what the problem is?  I don't really want to shift my 10+ boxes to another repo server if I can avoid it...
[05:12] <rioghal> daleth, I can give you a couple of commands that will speed things up
[05:12] <noobcook> im getting some errors when i try to install ati
[05:12] <daleth> I'm all ears
[05:12] <noobcook> i have the download
[05:12] <dougsko> elyon225: thats another thing thats really helpful to do, just explore places like /var/log. theres all kinds of neat stuff in there
[05:12] <dragonfyre13> anyone have an idea? The sound card is detected, and everything is functioning in oss, but alsa gets an error that says "cannot open resource for writing"
[05:12] <noobcook> "ati-driver-installer-8.33.6-x86.x86_64.run"
[05:12] <dragonfyre13> anyone have an idea? The sound card is detected, and everything is functioning in oss, but alsa gets an error that says " could not open resource for writing"
[05:12] <riotkittie> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[05:12] <riotkittie> oooooops
[05:12] <dragonfyre13> sorry. Messed up the first time.
[05:13] <elyon225> dougsko: I'm looking at kern.log... no clue what I'm looking FOR< though... its a lot of info
[05:13] <noobcook> but when i try bash it opens up an install gui  then wen i run sudo dpkg -i *.deb it says
[05:13] <noobcook> dpkg: error processing *.deb (--install):
[05:13] <noobcook>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[05:13] <noobcook> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:13] <dougsko> elyon225: maybe somehting like: grep -i error kern.log
[05:13] <DesertEagle> it'd be SO cool if someone could let me know how to put one of those pretty icons of your partition on the desktop :D
[05:14] <dougsko> elyon225: thatll look for the word 'error' (-i makes it case insensitive) in the log
[05:14] <elyon225> dougsko: Okay, that found a lot.
[05:14] <rioghal> daleth, You using apt-get or aptitude to update sources?
[05:14] <daleth> apt-get
[05:15] <sc4ttrbrain> hey ,my laptop cant get back from suspend...is there a way i can solve this one?
[05:15] <dougsko> elyon225: you might want to pipe it into 'less' to make it easier to go through like this, grep -i error kern.log|less
[05:15] <OrangeOrange> hey guys... can somebody help me get my screen resolution 1280x800..
[05:15] <rioghal> daleth, Open a term and do these commands in this order:
[05:15] <elyon225> dougsko: Well, it wasn't that much... 2 pages, about.
[05:15] <elyon225> dougsko: A lot about I/O errors with device sda
[05:15] <rioghal> daleth, sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list-origin   sudo sed -i 's/us.archive/archive/g' /etc/apt/sources.list   sudo apt-get update
[05:16] <elyon225> dougsko: Then some fgrlx errors too.
[05:16] <dougsko> elyon225: the fgrlx errors might be a clue
[05:16] <Bruco16> orange-Orange: try gnome-display-properties
[05:16] <rioghal> daleth, That makes a backup just in case, removes the "us" from the list and updates the sources.
[05:16] <daleth> Yup...
[05:16] <dougsko> elyon225: did you follwo any instructions on setting that up?
[05:16] <riotkittie> DesertEagle: mine are there because of fstab. im not sure how to get them there manually. i suppose you could right click > create launcher
[05:16] <daleth> I was more interested in when hte problem might be found and beaten to death.
[05:17] <riotkittie> but im not sure if theyd pop up and off when the part they were tied to were mounted/not
[05:17] <riotkittie> brb
[05:17] <elyon225> dougsko: I ran reconfigure xserver.conf (or something similar... can't remember exactly)
[05:17] <DesertEagle> riotkittie: thank you for caring :D
[05:17] <DesertEagle> not like everyone else :(
[05:17] <elyon225> dougsko: I followed all the instructions for setting up my graphics card and I know I did some changes with fglrx.
[05:17] <rioghal> daleth, I regularly see people on the forums complain about the speed problem with the US archives now and then, I just made the change permenant on my list and will use it without the US ones.
[05:18] <daleth> Hey... since we've got so many helpful people, any guidance out there on printing from a windows 2000/XP box to Ubuntu, Edgy Eft, using cups/ipp?
[05:18] <dougsko> elyon225: you might want to try reversing those steps or try and get rid of fglrx altogether, just to narrow down the possibilities at least
[05:18] <daleth> rioghal: I haven't noticed a problem until after christmas
[05:18] <elyon225> dougsko: I would have no idea how to reverse anything like that... or get rid of fglrx (besides, don't I need that for my 3D card?)
[05:18] <daleth> Doing some googling, I only found on real complaint from earlier this week.
[05:18] <noobcook> dougsko im looking at my xorg.conf now and its got lots of new ati stuff in it does this take effect when i reboot? because i wasn't prompted
[05:19] <rioghal> daleth, I noticed complaints several times last year on the forums
[05:19] <dougsko> elyon225: well i dont know, but in the interest of figuring out why you crash, its good to narrow things down
[05:21] <dougsko> elyon225: do a search in syanaptic for fglrx, see what you have installed. uninstall those packages. try and log out. if it works, at least you know what's causing it. if it still crashes, then you know something that isnt responsible
[05:21] <daftvader> anyone here use vim 7?
[05:21] <dougsko> noobcook: itll take effect the next time X is restarted. you can do that with ctrl+alt+backspace
[05:21] <elyon225> dougsko: Problem is, it doesn't crash EVERY time I log out... just most of the time ;)
[05:21] <elyon225> dougsko: But I'll give that a shot.
[05:21] <noobcook> ok
[05:22] <sc4ttrbrain> my laptop cant get back from `suspend mode`, it blanks,and never go back to the desktop,is there a way to solve this? or any way to investigate this?
[05:22] <rioghal> elyon225, have you looked at /var/log/messages to see if there is any info about the crashes?
[05:22] <dougsko> elyon225: yeah i mean, i dont have any other suggestions right now so whatever :)
[05:22] <elyon225> rioghal: Yes, I have.
[05:23] <david_> dougsko: its not working in my application menu is ati control but yeh thats it
[05:23] <riotkittie> DesertEagle: i've been fooling around in gnome, and i'm still clueless. maybe a bash script...  hm.
[05:23] <elyon225> rioghal: Without knowing what to look for, I didn't see anything that suggested a crash to me.
[05:23] <OzoneCo> i've printed to shared windows printers ok from ubuntu, but haven't went the other way
[05:23] <DesertEagle> riotkittie no yeah, your way works, but i want the pretty icon :D
[05:23] <dougsko> Dave123: you have crashes when logging out too?
[05:24] <riotkittie> DesertEagle: oh, a custom icon?
[05:24] <daleth> OzoneCo: Yeah, apparently almost no one has... what docs there are totally don't work.
[05:24] <DesertEagle> riotkittie yeah you know the white drive icons on your desktop? i lost one of those when i reformatted a drive
[05:24] <DesertEagle> riotkittie: i mounted the drive, but it didn't show the nice desktop icon
[05:24] <Bruco16> is a multicolored pixel banner (about 1/4 screen at bootom) appearing at X login startup normal?
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[05:25] <rioghal> !ops
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[05:25] <OzoneCo> as soon as i get the install done again, i have a printer that i can add....windows will want it shared prolly?
[05:26] <riotkittie> DesertEagle: ahhh. i've run into a similar problem in the past but dont know how i undid it
[05:26] <Bruco16> orange-orange: yeah, i start the PC, and when the login screen appears, a brief banner appears, quite weird
[05:26] <Jaac> HI chaps
[05:26] <riotkittie> DesertEagle: have you tried switching to a different icon theme and then switching back?
[05:26] <sc4ttrbrain> my laptop cant get back from `suspend mode`, it blanks,and never go back to the desktop,is there a way to solve this? or any way to investigate this?
[05:26] <bucketfan99> hey anyone able to help me add backports to my edgy install ?
[05:26] <dragonfyre13> anyone have an idea? The sound card is detected, and everything is functioning in oss, but alsa gets an error that says " could not open resource for writing"
[05:27] <bucketfan99> i am just not able to get this to work.
[05:27] <Jaac> I was wondering if someone could assist me, setting up userdirs for apache.
[05:27] <malt> I did a fresh ubuntu install earler, and it had gnome and installed, and everything working fine a nice 1024 res to. Then i got to messing with VNC, and it totally messed my RES up to 600 x, and it will not let me change it to 1024, and this is a old laptop. I don't even know half the specs to it, and that sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg command asks why to much hardware questions that i don't know. So will ubuntu not auto detect my specs now, like
[05:27] <rioghal> elkbuntu, Thank you 
[05:27] <Jaac> Been setting it up for 2 days already, but still get permissions eerors
 i mean...i wanna increase my screen resolution.. but i dont have the option to change it to 1280x800
[05:28] <Bruco16> orange-orange: still you have about 5 possibilities? at least one close to your specs?
[05:28] <Jaac> error.log keeps telling me it has troubles opening the .htacces file, while the permissions are setup right
[05:29] <OrangeOrange> err at first is only 1... which is 1028 x 768
[05:29] <OrangeOrange> then i follow the instruction at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:29] <OrangeOrange> and got 2 extra resolution.. but are 800x600, and 600x 400
[05:30] <noobcook> how do you know if ur running 6.06 dapper or 6.10 edgy
[05:31] <rioghal> noobcook, lsb_release -a
[05:32] <rioghal> noobcook,  or lsb_release -a | grep Release
[05:32] <noobcook> 6.10 edgy!
[05:33] <noobcook> rioghal: whats the command to remove the ati i just installed wrongly lol
[05:33] <quad3d> rm -rf /*
[05:33] <quad3d> j/k
[05:33] <noobcook> lol
[05:34] <rioghal> quad3d, That comment can get you banned from this channel
[05:34] <Music_Shuffle> ....yeah.
[05:34] <Music_Shuffle> !kidding
[05:34] <ubotu> You may think your joke is funny, but you may confuse new users or irritate people who actually start answering your question :)
[05:34] <rioghal> Gotta love the bot
[05:34] <rioghal> bot snack
[05:34] <noobcook> lol
[05:34] <noobcook> rioghal i think you told me how to do it before but forgive me i forget =(
[05:35] <rioghal> noobcook, I have never used any ATI stuff so I am not sure how to uninstall it
[05:35] <Music_Shuffle> !botsnack
[05:35] <ubotu> Yum!
[05:35] <rioghal> Ah, that's it
[05:36] <n2diy> ! yum
[05:36] <ubotu> yum: Advanced front-end for rpm. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.4.0-3.1 (edgy), package size 197 kB, installed size 960 kB
[05:36] <rioghal> someone needs to add "and yum is extremely sloooooow" to that factoid.
[05:36] <quad3d> noobcook, dpkg -l |grep fglrx
[05:36] <dredhammer> whats a good graphical tool to see how much freespace you have remaining in dapper?
[05:36] <quad3d> and apt-get remove 'package'
[05:37] <n2diy> Hmm, seems Ubotu likes yummy snackl?
[05:37] <n2diy> snack/snacks
[05:37] <quad3d> i find the system monitor to be quite useful looking at disk usage
[05:37] <roler> What DVD Player do you guys suggest using? gxine has audio/video sync issues as well as invalid initial brightness/contrast settings, and mplayer is ever so slightly choppy.
[05:37] <Bruco16> any one knows why some process is writing to my drive every 5secs?
[05:37] <madmax> Hi... does anyone know where I can find a bootdisk (that fits in a floopy) for Ubuntu?
[05:38] <rioghal> dredhammer, Not sure about a GUI version, but the df command yields a good bit of info
[05:38] <quad3d> df -h works good for me
[05:38] <rioghal> roler did you enable dma on your dvd device?
[05:38] <n2diy> Bruco16: Top is you friend.
[05:39] <dredhammer> ok thanks
[05:39] <madmax> Hi... does anyone know where I can find a bootdisk (that fits in a floopy) for Ubuntu?
[05:40] <rioghal> roler, I found this helped with the "choppy" playback in mplayer:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[05:40] <n2diy> rioghal: is your system still up?
[05:40] <OrionDax> Hello?
[05:40] <rioghal> quad3d, df -h is indeed better, thanks
[05:40] <OrionDax> I need help with installing something...
[05:40] <rioghal> n2diy, of coarse it is, why wouldn't it be?
[05:41] <quad3d> :)
[05:41] <noobcook> hmm
[05:41] <OrionDax> Is anyone able to help?
[05:41] <noobcook> the ati default driver is crpa
[05:41] <noobcook> anyone know the apt get to get a proper one
[05:41] <Jaac> Guys, under what user does apache normally run?
[05:41] <pagefault> apt-get nvidia-card from store
[05:41] <pagefault> thats your option
[05:41] <mikejn1> I am having an issue with the open gl screen savers being choppy. What can I do to fix this. I have a new laptop with an ATI radeon Express 200m video card.
[05:41] <n2diy> rioghal: well, most times people need a boot disk, their system is down. :)
[05:41] <sc4ttrbrain>  my laptop cant get back from `suspend mode`, it blanks,and never go back to the desktop,is there a way to solve this? or any way to investigate this?
[05:42] <noobcook> pagefault:  what do you mean?
[05:42] <rioghal> n2diy, I didn't ask for a boot disk ;)
[05:42] <pagefault> ati is crap in linux
[05:42] <Grok_> dredhammer, turns out i just installed a great little utility called Filelight...very nice gui
[05:42] <OrionDax>  At the moment I am currently unable to get the internet working on my computer with the OS Ubuntu... So on another computer I am trying to get the program Wine Windows Emulator so I can get my USB network drive working on it so I can get internet on... I clicked on the new release link on the Wine HQ homepage and downloaded the program to a disc, and I put the disc in my computer and it opens it up and shows all of the files and such inside
 of it but I have no idea how to install it or anything...
[05:42] <coolsax98> hey guys. my totem media player no longer plays mov files. It was working fine last night
[05:42] <toothpick> On ubuntu my volume buttons work on my laptop, but not on other debian based distros...do you know what makes them work?
[05:42] <coolsax98> but I think an update screwed it up
[05:42] <pagefault> so
[05:42] <pagefault> apt-get nvidia-card from store
[05:42] <pagefault> heh
[05:42] <pagefault> and your problem will be fixed
[05:42] <rioghal> pagefault, hehe
[05:42] <OrionDax>  of it but I have no idea how to install it or anything... If you could help me, please open up a personal messaging window with me
[05:42] <pagefault> nvidia's drivers are outstanding compared to ati
[05:42] <n2diy> rioghal: ahh, so the system is going by to fast for me, n2diy should go lay down.
[05:43] <Grok_> dredhammer, you can find it add/remove programs...works great and it's only 380k
[05:43] <mikejn1> This is in a laptop..
[05:43] <rioghal> Grok_, Got a screenshot?
[05:43] <sc4ttrbrain> my laptop cant get back from `suspend mode`, it blanks,and never go back to the desktop,is there a way to solve this? or any way to investigate this?
[05:43] <rioghal> Grok_,  http://www.imageshack.us/
[05:43] <pagefault> hehe
[05:43] <pagefault> hmm
[05:44] <pagefault> but you can try fglrx
[05:44] <dredhammer> ok thanks Grok_
[05:44] <pagefault> but then you open your system to a root exploit
[05:44] <dragonfyre13> anyone have an idea? The sound card is detected, and everything is functioning in oss, but alsa gets an error that says " could not open resource for writing"
[05:44] <pagefault> so I wouldn't run it in a secure environment
[05:44] <denver> has anyone experienced a problem with totem crashing on ubuntu and the process not completely dying
[05:44] <denver> i was unable to umount my dvd drive after this
[05:44] <Grok_> rioghal, http://www.methylblue.com/filelight/
[05:44] <pagefault> best bet
[05:44] <mikejn1> I tried that as well.. unless I am doing something wrong.. it did not seem to make a difference
[05:44] <pagefault> is to just
[05:44] <pagefault> like
[05:45] <majesty89> sc4ttrbrain: do you mean your screen is locked?
[05:45] <pagefault> apt-get nvidia-card from store
[05:45] <Bruco16> denver: you mean the process turned zombie?
[05:45] <pagefault> and rule
[05:45] <denver> yes Bruco16
[05:45] <pagefault> apt-get nvidia-card from store
[05:45] <pagefault> and be done with it
[05:45] <denver> defunct
[05:45] <denver> zombie
[05:45] <pagefault> ati is hopeless in linux
[05:45] <AdamKrier> Hello. I was wondering why jpg's do not open when you double click on them (in fact they bring up a warning) but jpeg's do work correctly. Also, how can i fix it for jpg's
[05:45] <denver> init didn't clean it up either
[05:45] <pagefault> I gave up on them after 3 years of waiting for them to fix their driver
[05:45] <mikejn1> pagefault, the only problem is that this is in a laptop
[05:45] <Grok_> rioghal, as you move your mouse over the various sections it shows you just how much is being used...closer to the center and closer you get to the tree level of the dir you scanned
[05:45] <pagefault> mikejn1: I would just use 2d then
[05:45] <mikejn1> a new laptop
[05:45] <Bruco16> denver: you tried ps -e and killing it manually?
[05:46] <pagefault> you don't really have a 3d option except for the slow ati provided ones
[05:46] <rioghal> Grok_, screenshot!
[05:46] <rioghal> hehe
[05:46] <EnsignRedshirt> I'm running breezy. I just edited a menu entry under Applications/Grahics (changed the Name and the Command).  Even after loggin out and back in, the Name is still the old name (but the new command is run).  If I edit the menu, it shows the new name!
[05:46] <Bruco16> denver: it's possible that you can't umount an opened device...
[05:46] <Grok_> rioghal, go there...nice big screenshot for you
[05:46] <guiller> i need help my keyboard is abnt2 Brazil pt when I go to try to modify the layout the one option that I have is Eliminate dead keys .. :(
[05:46] <mikejn1> pagefault, so stay away from open gl screen savers then?
[05:46] <roler> rioghal, was yours really choppy or just barely noticable ?
[05:46] <sc4ttrbrain> majesty89: :no, if i do hybernate,then when i come back,the screen locked,and i know its normal,but doing suspend mode ,after that i cant go back to desktop unless hard reset laptop
[05:46] <AdamKrier> I was wondering if anyone could tell me how to get gThumb or EoG to work with .jpg instead of just .jpeg
[05:47] <rioghal> roler it was really choppy at first
[05:47] <AdamKrier> i have >200 images from a trip and i don't want to rename ALL of them
[05:47] <Hmmmm> hi guys, im trying to setup samba on ubuntu 6.06 for a small office of 7 people. anyone got a guide on how to do it?
[05:47] <n2diy> guiller: look at loadkeys
[05:47] <guiller> n2diy, where
[05:47] <denver> Bruco16, once a process is defunct it has already been killed, correct?
[05:47] <jannu1> Hi. after reboot i cant enter terminal, but xterm still works any ideas?
[05:47] <denver> just not waited on by the parent process?
[05:47] <Gun_Smoke> Has anyone in here installed YSflight? ysflight.com
[05:47] <rioghal> Grok_, Wow, that is quite nice. And that app is in the repos?
[05:47] <n2diy> guiller: from a terminal: man loadkeys
[05:47] <pagefault> mikejn1: what video is it
[05:47] <EnsignRedshirt> AdamKrier: Actually, it would not be difficult to rename all of them--but you shouldn't have to.
[05:48] <burepe> Is "vram" ram for the video card?
[05:48] <Bruco16> denver; it's liked stopped a guess
[05:48] <evilgold> OrionDax, what kind of card are you using exactly?
[05:48] <mikejn1> pagefault, video? i was talking about the screen savers
[05:48] <Bruco16> denver: it froze
[05:48] <pagefault> I mean what hardware
[05:48] <denver> Bruco16, ah well kill -9 did nothing to it
[05:48] <OrionDax> evilgold: Belkin
[05:48] <mikejn1> ahh
[05:48] <OzoneCo> Hmmmm: want that to be a domain controller as well?
[05:48] <pagefault> I mean what hardware
[05:48] <pagefault> you might have to use fglrx
[05:48] <Grok_> rioghal, yup
[05:48] <AdamKrier> EnsignRedshirt, how can i avoid it -- in EoG and gThumb it just looks as if the 200 some odd pictures do not even exist because of the .jpg... If i rename some to .jpeg they show up
[05:48] <pagefault> you might have to use flgrx
[05:48] <Hmmmm> OzoneCo, ya i do
[05:48] <Naik0> Hey, my sound and video isnt synced when i watch movies at youtube, what can i do about it?
[05:48] <pagefault> but it won't suspend your laptop properly
[05:49] <Bruco16> denver: what happened?  it crashed when you opened a file?
[05:49] <mikejn1> It is an ATI Radeon Xpress 200M
[05:49] <noobcook> guys im not really happy with my display
[05:49] <pagefault> hmm
[05:49] <OzoneCo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSambaPDC?highlight=%28samba%29
[05:49] <pagefault> 200m might be supported by X
[05:49] <noobcook> its choppy and laggy and yet my video card is very decent
[05:49] <noobcook> =(
[05:49] <denver> Bruco16, it originally crashed when i skipped back a chapter while watching Crank
[05:49] <EnsignRedshirt> AdamKrier: Sorry, I don't know the answer to your question, but I agree that the apps should recognize the .jpg extension.
[05:49] <pagefault> express 200m isn't very decent
[05:49] <denver> i was able to recreate the crash also
[05:49] <Hmmmm> OzoneCo, checkign...
[05:49] <evilgold> OrionDax, run this command with your network card plugged in to the linxu computer...
[05:49] <denver> and both times i wound up rebooting
[05:50] <AdamKrier> EnsignRedshirt, how would you rename them all easily?
[05:51] <Naik0> Hey, my sound and video isnt synced when i watch movies at youtube, what can i do about it?
[05:51] <evilgold> OrionDax, lsusb
[05:51] <evilgold> OrionDax, then put the results up on http://pastebin.com/ and send me the link
[05:51] <AdamKrier> Naik0, i have that same problem sometimes -- try pausing and restarting the vid?
[05:51] <Naik0> AdamKrier, ok i can try
[05:51] <F28> whats the apt-get to get Java?
[05:51] <OzoneCo> Hmmmm: says for 6.06 and pdc...was another choice without
[05:52] <Bruco16> denver: hum, no idea; i never played dvd before... do you searched for another player in case it's a file problem?
[05:52] <Bruco16> denver: recreate? you mean rerunning the app and the file?
[05:52] <EnsignRedshirt> AdamKrier: rename 's/\.jpg$/.jpeg/'  *.jpg
[05:52] <OrionDax> evilgold: How do I run command (Sorry I am new to linux.)
[05:52] <Naik0> AdamKrier, nope didnt work :(
[05:53] <noobcook> how do i change a file so i have write permissions on it
[05:53] <denver> totem would not start back
[05:53] <denver> i could not completely kill the defunct process
[05:53] <denver> and my dvd drive was being read constantly
[05:53] <denver> i even got buffer errors while shutting down
[05:53] <rioghal> Netsplit!
[05:53] <noobcook> ?
[05:53] <noobcook> lol
[05:53] <AdamKrier> Naik0, sorry... i dunno what to tell you-- i just kindof have accepted it i guess haha
[05:53] <noobcook> rioghal: how do i change a folder so i have write permissions on it?
[05:54] <AdamKrier> EnsignRedshirt, thanks man i will try that
[05:54] <Naik0> hehe okej thanks anyway mate
[05:54] <denver> Bruco16, by recreate i mean once i restarted my computer i opened the dvd back up in totem and when i skipped back a chapter it crashed again
[05:54] <dougsko> noobcook: chmod u+w <folder?
[05:54] <F28> whats the apt-get to get Java??
[05:54] <rioghal> noobcook, Where is the folder? Is it owned by your user or root?
[05:54] <Bruco16> denver: ouf... have you tried running totem via console instead of graphical? you can get extra msgs that way
[05:54] <mikejn1> I thought it was having 128meg of ram on it
[05:54] <EnsignRedshirt> AdamKrier: If you're nervous, you should create a few .jpg files in /tmp and test it first.
[05:54] <OrionDax> evilgold: did ya get my last message?
[05:54] <noobcook> its in /
[05:54] <noobcook> its called /ati
[05:54] <evilgold> OrionDax, no please send again
[05:54] <noobcook> i just created it yet i cant copy files to it haha
[05:55] <ErrantEgo> not here
[05:55] <OzoneCo> !botsnack
[05:55] <bimberi> !java | F28
[05:55] <ubotu> Yum!
[05:55] <ErrantEgo> erm, ww
[05:55] <ubotu> F28: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:55] <denver> Bruco16, no i did not think to do that
[05:55] <OrionDax> evilgold: I don't know how to run command. (Sorry I am new to linux.)
[05:55] <malt> I did a fresh ubuntu install earler, and it had gnome and installed, and everything working fine a nice 1024 res to. Then i got to messing with VNC, and it totally messed my RES up to 600 x, and it will not let me change it to 1024, and this is a old laptop. I don't even know half the specs to it, and that sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg command asks why to much hardware questions that i don't know. So will ubuntu not auto detect my specs now, like
[05:56] <rioghal> noobcook, use sudo to copy files into it?
[05:56] <evilgold> OrionDax, just go to Applications> Accessories > Terminal
[05:56] <pibarnas> Hi folks, yesterday, edgy system asked me to update my xserver. I did it so, but now, when it is the time, xscreensaver kills gnome-session and I can't go back. I simply can't log into gnome through GDM again... any ideas??
[05:56] <dougsko> malt: lshw will show you your system's specs
[05:56] <noobcook> yeh i tried riohal permission denied
[05:56] <AdamKrier> EnsignRedshirt, i made a copy of the image folder  cuz i was nervous actually :-) trying it now
[05:56] <noobcook> o wait
[05:56] <noobcook> sudo copy
[05:56] <evilgold> OrionDax, then type the command "lsusb" (without the "s)
[05:56] <noobcook> i keep forgetting about sudo ><
[05:56] <mikejn1> pagefault, if you replied I missed it. My irc chat froze for a few then went scrolling a ton of text
[05:56] <EnsignRedshirt> AdamKrier: Smart man ;)
[05:56] <DeepThought> my x server won't start. it says something about my gpu and stuff.
[05:57] <rioghal> noobcook, hehe
[05:57] <noobcook> brb
[05:57] <jra> I think that "stuff" should end up on a pastebin.
[05:57] <AdamKrier> EnsignRedshirt, can you send that command again? i lost it when liek a million ppl signed off and on of the channel
[05:57] <AdamKrier> EnsignRedshirt,  sorry :-/
[05:57] <EnsignRedshirt> AdamKrier: rename 's/.jpg$/.jpeg/'  *.jpg
[05:58] <EnsignRedshirt> AdamKrier: Wait...
[05:58] <OrionDax> evilgold: without which s?
[05:58] <rioghal> EnsignRedshirt, need a "*" there don't ya?
[05:58] <Bruco16> there's a gksu / gksudo for graphical
[05:58] <EnsignRedshirt> AdamKrier: rename 's/\.jpg$/.jpeg/'  *.jpg
[05:58] <david_> since i always use firefox a lot is there someway to have it so its always in the ram so it opens in a split second?
[05:58] <dougsko> EnsignRedshirt: thats a good one...i woulda went for a for loop. you win this hole (golf :))
[05:59] <EnsignRedshirt> rioghal: No, that command will work.
[05:59] <rioghal> EnsignRedshirt, yeah
[05:59] <EnsignRedshirt> dougsko: Yeah, rename is a nifty command.
[05:59] <OrionDax> evilgold: oh sorry misinterperited your message
[06:03] <OrionDax> evilgold: almost done
[06:03] <sc4ttrbrain> i cant go back from suspend mode, the screen keeps blank(not in the way screen lock)...is there a way to fix this? or investigate this?
[06:03] <AdamKrier> thanks EnsignRedshirt
[06:03] <EnsignRedshirt> AdamKrier: no problem
[06:03] <AdamKrier> EnsignRedshirt, I'm still pissssssed that shit doesn't work with .jpgs though, but this will do :-D
[06:04] <rioghal> I gotta get off this ride.
[06:04] <dougsko> sc4ttrbrain: maybe check out /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:04] <riotkittie> heh
[06:04] <n2diy> ! split
[06:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about split - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:04] <JackPhil> my machine is too cold to boot into desktop
[06:05] <dougsko> puter love the cold!
[06:05] <JackPhil> is there an high cpu load program to warm it quickly?
[06:05] <dougsko> computers to :)
[06:05] <dragonfyre13> blender
[06:05] <dragonfyre13> WOW
[06:05] <dragonfyre13> Vegastrike
[06:05] <jra> cat /proc/urandom
[06:05] <dragonfyre13> doom3
[06:06] <jra> err, /dev
[06:06] <dragonfyre13> gonna say...
[06:06] <dougsko> umm...you really shouldnt need to warm up your computer
[06:06] <dougsko> computers like it cold
[06:07] <dragonfyre13> mine doesn't.
[06:07] <user_> hi can someone recommend a good bittorrent client on ubuntu?
[06:07] <dragonfyre13> user_: azureus
[06:07] <Spinnaker> azureus
[06:07] <dougsko> user_: bittornado
[06:07] <user_> dougsko, is bittornado stable? doesn't crash much?
[06:08] <riotkittie> way stable
[06:08] <dougsko> its never crashed for me
[06:08] <user_> ok cool i'll try it out
[06:08] <user_> thanks
[06:08] <jra> the same as the original client plus a few extras
[06:08] <rikai> !netsplit
[06:08] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[06:08] <dougsko> very small, stable, and even has a command line client
[06:08] <bug__> yo!, i need some help gettin ubuntu 6.1 installed on my winxp machine.  I want to install it to an external hd, which only has 1 partition atm, but id like to make it 2, and whenver I try to select the hd for partitioning, and hit next in the installer, npthing happens, it just sits with its littel wheel spinning
[06:08] <bug__> help
[06:09] <magez_> !perkele
[06:09] <Grok_> user_, check out BitTyrant...based on Azureus but better
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about perkele - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <rioghal> Man, that is one useful bot.. I've never seen such a useful bot on any other channel.
[06:09] <OrionDax> EVILGOLD: Sorry this is taking so long, I have to find a way to get the information to this computer because some of the file formats are not compatable....
[06:10] <mvfeinstein> Can anyone here help me.. I just rebooted my computer and now when I try to log into the failsafe gnome session through gdm I get an error that it cant find the default gnome installation
[06:10] <bug__> yo!, i need some help gettin ubuntu 6.1 installed on my winxp machine.  I want to install it to an external hd, which only has 1 partition atm, but id like to make it 2, and whenver I try to select the hd for partitioning, and hit next in the installer, npthing happens, it just sits with its littel wheel spinning
[06:10] <Marupa> Has anyone ever rn VMware under ubuntu?  I'm trying to decide if it's enough of a 'risk' to switch over.  I have quite a few concerns though.
[06:10] <EnsignRedshirt> bug__: I think everyone heard you73 seconds ago :)
[06:10] <evilgold> OrionDax, try "lsusb | grep net"
[06:11] <OzoneCo> i use vmplayer in ubuntu,,,,i run a copy of xp among other things
[06:11] <evilgold> OrionDax, it should only give you one or two lines, you could just write on a peice of paper and post on pastebin
[06:11] <Marupa> on a 2.1Ghz Celeron, about how laggy would it be?
[06:12] <denver> how much memory
[06:12] <Marupa> 1.25GB
[06:12] <OzoneCo> seems to need ram more than anything
[06:12] <denver> and you want to run xp?
[06:12] <Marupa> pro, yes.
[06:12] <denver> you could easily dedicate 512 to it
[06:12] <denver> not very laggy at all
[06:13] <noobcook> hmm
[06:13] <Marupa> I've tried running Ubuntu under xp, and that's laggy enough to make me cringe.
[06:13] <denver> unless you started using up all your memory
[06:13] <noobcook> this isnt working for me
[06:13] <noobcook> david@david-desktop:~$ sudo module-assistant prepare,update
[06:13] <noobcook> sudo: module-assistant: command not found
[06:13] <noobcook> any ideas?
[06:13] <eteran> Marupa, you could use dual boot for a start ... thats the way i'm going atm
[06:13] <rioghal> Marupa, I use Ubuntu Dapper on a Celeron with 512Mb ram and it doesn't lag at all.. granted I don't do any 3D stuff and I use onboard graphics, but I don't see any lag at all.
[06:13] <denver> its not laggy for me but i use it on a core duo laptop
[06:13] <Marupa> that's a pain to do though.
[06:14] <OzoneCo> with the ram you'll prolly be good...i can either run 2 xps or 1 xp and server 2000 in Ubuntu, i only have 1gb of ram on a p4 1.7 in a notebook
[06:14] <Marupa> nice.
[06:14] <Marupa> ok, that takes care of that question, four more to go.
[06:14] <noobcook> anyone?
[06:14] <OzoneCo> but that celeron.....ugggh
[06:14] <zachhale> how does ubuntu do with the intel 965 motherboards? specifically the 965wh and the onboard sata raid?
[06:14] <noobcook> why wont sudo module-assistant work for me?
[06:15] <rioghal> noobcook, which module-assistant
[06:15] <rioghal> noobcook, That's a terminal command: which module-assistant
[06:15] <noobcook> " sudo aptitude install module-assistant build-essential debhelper debconf dh-make fakeroot libstdc++5 linux-headers-$(uname -r)  "
[06:15] <rioghal> noobcook, What does that return?
[06:16] <noobcook> it says  sudo: module-assistant: command not found
[06:16] <rioghal> so it isn't installed, which is why it isn't working
[06:16] <noobcook> but it says installed?
[06:16] <noobcook> i did the install mod command
[06:16] <Marupa> Ok...question two.  I've got a Logitech MX 600 mouse.  Will the side-scrolling and five buttons still work under linux?  (or can I customize them?)
[06:16] <rioghal> noobcook, That's a terminal command: which module-assistant
[06:16] <rioghal> noobcook, What does that return?
[06:17] <EnsignRedshirt> rioghal: Who's on first?
[06:17] <EnsignRedshirt> :)
[06:17] <noobcook> can i paste 10 lines?
[06:17] <Marupa> pastebin.com  noobcook.
[06:17] <rioghal> noobcook, If "which module-assistant" returns nothing, then it isn't installed
[06:17] <noobcook> k
[06:17] <noobcook> sec
[06:17] <eteran> Marupa, iirc there was a howto for that in the ubuntuforums.org
[06:17] <pibarnas> the trouble with xscreensaver and gnome-session, indeed is related with xserver (updated) and nvidia proprietary driver. I disabled nvidia driver (xorg.conf --> nv). Everything's working well, including xscreensaver. Let's wait for another nvidia driver that fixes the problem.
[06:18] <Marupa> Ahh.  Mmmk.  What about my RF keyboard?  (Micro Innovations)
[06:18] <EnsignRedshirt> noobcook: Did you already run the "sudo aptitude ..." command that you quoted above?
[06:18] <Marupa> KB985W
[06:18] <noobcook> yes i did EnsignRedshirt
[06:18] <noobcook> it says ....Done after everything
[06:19] <eteran> no idea, but you could try checking out with the live cd or googling for
[06:19] <kazuka2> hi
[06:19] <kazuka2> can someone help me
[06:19] <OrionDax> EVILGOLD: http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=856486
[06:19] <rioghal> noobcook, I understand, but if "which module-assistant" returns nothing, then that specific command isn't installed. Are you sure "module-assistant" is the command you are looking for?
[06:20] <kazuka2> Can I play
[06:20] <noobcook> urj
[06:20] <noobcook> yeh*
[06:20] <kazuka2> can i play windows codecs in ubntu ppc
[06:20] <pibarnas> I think I'll downgrade nvidia driver to test...
[06:20] <EnsignRedshirt> noobcook: off-by-one... :)
[06:21] <noobcook> i need it to build the kernel module
[06:21] <Marupa> Ok.  two more devices.  I've got a EMS USB2 (PS2/1 USB adapter)
[06:21] <kazuka2> noobcook: is yes for me?
[06:21] <noobcook> its to install my ati driver
[06:21] <noobcook> im reading a guide
[06:22] <noobcook> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:22] <Marupa> will that function under Ubuntu?
[06:22] <noobcook> but itd help if the comands work
[06:22] <kazuka2> can i play windows codecs in ubntu ppc?????????????????????????????////
[06:22] <carlos> small.... just oh so small problem..... seems like there are no fglrx drivers for linux... on ppc!!!!
[06:23] <OrionDax> EVILGOLD: Did you get my message?
[06:23] <noobcook> anyone have any ideas why module assistant isnt working =(
[06:23] <mvfeinstein> Can anyone here help me, I get an error that when I try to log into my system that gnome installation could not be found
[06:23] <evilgold> OrionDax, yes one moment
[06:24] <noobcook> hmm whats the apt get for module assist maybe if i reinstall it
[06:24] <evilgold> OrionDax, could you tell me the model number of the card
[06:24] <eteran> kazuka2, your "?" key is stuck ... if by windows codecs you're talking about wmv, yeah I can play them with VLC
[06:24] <EnsignRedshirt> noobcook: sudo apt-get install module-assistant
[06:24] <kazuka2> eteran: are you using ubuntu on ppc
[06:24] <eteran> pocket pc? no
[06:25] <EnsignRedshirt> noobcook: (Or use Synaptic.)
[06:25] <rioghal> noobcook, Wait!
[06:25] <noobcook> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:25] <noobcook> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:25] <noobcook> lol
[06:25] <noobcook> blast it all
[06:25] <noobcook> ok
[06:25] <OrionDax> EVILGOLD: F5D7050
[06:25] <guiller> i instaled drivers nvidia for automatix2 my hardware is gf 6800 xt , is instaled more no aceleration grafic ... :( any help?
[06:25] <rioghal> noobcook, Did you install it the first time with aptitude or apt-get?
[06:25] <Marupa> Can anyone tell me if those two devices will be 'fully supported'?
[06:26] <noobcook> aptitude
[06:26] <rioghal> noobcook, The best thing to do is uninstall it using the pm you used to install it, and then switch pm's to install it again, this will keep from making a mess (aptitude thinking it's still installed while you used apt-get to remove and install it again)
[06:27] <evilgold> OrionDax, You have to options really, you can use ndiswrapper, or you can compile the native linux driver yourself...
[06:27] <burepe> My firefox is scrolling all choppy. Anyone know anything about that/
[06:27] <noobcook> alright
[06:27] <rioghal> noobcook, Just trying to help you keep things clean and neat.
[06:27] <evilgold> OrionDax, The easiest way would be to use ndiswrapper
[06:27] <noobcook> yeah thanks =D
[06:27] <EnsignRedshirt> rioghal: Good point.
[06:27] <noobcook> i appreciate that
[06:27] <noobcook> but whats the command to remove it with aptitude
[06:27] <eteran> I allways thought aptitude is just a frontend for apt-get?
[06:27] <OrionDax> EVILGOLD: Ok, I will check it out.
[06:28] <rioghal> noobcook, sudo aptitude purge appname
[06:28] <OrionDax> EVILGOLD: Will I still have to install the disc for it?
[06:28] <EnsignRedshirt> noobcook, rioghal: But since the command is not there, I don't think it was installed in the first place.
[06:28] <sc4ttrbrain> i cant go back from suspend mode ,the screen keeps blank (not in the way screen locked) so i have to hard reset it, is there a way to fix this? or to investigate this?
[06:28] <rioghal> EnsignRedshirt, we shall see ;)
[06:28] <noobcook> well it cant hurt trying 2 remove it then
[06:28] <rioghal> noobcook, true
[06:29] <evilgold> OrionDax, You'll need a disc with the windows drivers for your card... and either access to the internet on some PC, or the Ubuntu Install CD
[06:29] <Marupa> Anyone?  x.x
[06:29] <^V^> Hi, I've just installed some libraries using the package manager, but it doesn't seem like the linker finds them unless I manually specify the path to search. I ran ldconfig and it seems to list the libraries.
[06:29] <evilgold> OrionDax, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[06:29] <Jordan_U> Is Firefox 2.0 available in Dapper backports?
[06:30] <evilgold> OrionDax, that link should get you setup
[06:30] <noobcook> The following packages are unused and will be REMOVED:
[06:30] <noobcook>   g++ g++-4.1 libstdc++6-4.1-dev
[06:30] <OrionDax> EVILGOLD: Thanks very much for your help.
[06:30] <rioghal> noobcook, yes, that is why I love aptitude, it removes unused deps
[06:31] <noobcook> hehe cool
[06:31] <noobcook> ok so i should use the same command again
[06:31] <rioghal> apt-get on Dapper doesn't do that
[06:31] <noobcook> or apt get this time
[06:31] <^V^> So does anyone know how I can get the linker to find them properly?
[06:31] <noobcook> im sure u could make apt get do that
[06:31] <noobcook> just make it write the dependencys to a file on install
[06:31] <Jordan_U> noobcook: Only on Edgy
[06:31] <rioghal> noobcook, You're on Edgy? apt-get on Edgy has a new option called "--auto-remove" which will remove unused deps.. it wasn't that way on Dapper.
[06:32] <noobcook> oooh
[06:32] <noobcook> i see
[06:32] <noobcook> er
[06:32] <noobcook> hydra irc
[06:32] <noobcook> sus
[06:32] <noobcook> anyway should i use apt get or aptitude
[06:32] <noobcook> for the package
[06:32] <rioghal> noobcook, use apt-get and see what happens
[06:32] <noobcook> ok
[06:33] <rioghal> it's trivial to uninstall it if it doesn't work for you
[06:33] <noobcook> yeh true
[06:33] <rioghal> g'nite toulouse
[06:33] <toulouse-sleepin> cya
[06:33] <Slash> hi!
[06:33] <noobcook> Package module-assistant is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:33] <noobcook> lol
[06:33] <Slash> eh?
[06:33] <Slash> No, I'm not Canadian
[06:33] <rioghal> noobcook, That may be the source of the problem, lol
[06:33] <noobcook> hmm
[06:34] <kazuka2> later guys
[06:34] <noobcook> byby kazuka
[06:34] <rioghal> sounds like a broken package list
[06:34] <noobcook> im guessing aptitude installs what it can get its hands on
[06:34] <noobcook> lol
[06:34] <burepe> How can I change the encoding in xchat?
[06:35] <s34n> has anybody got cinerella installed?
[06:35] <s34n> anybody here, that is
[06:35] <noobcook> rioghal any ideas how i can work around this?
[06:35] <EnsignRedshirt> noobcook: Back when you ran the original long "sudo aptitude install ..." command, were there any messages *before* it said "Done..."?
[06:36] <noobcook> i cant remember
[06:36] <noobcook> should i try it again
[06:36] <jra> burepe: either in the server dialog or with /charset
[06:36] <rioghal> noobcook, No idea, I never tried kernel stuff. You might want to post this problem on http://ubuntuforums.org and see what kind of replies you get.. those folks there are awesome.
[06:36] <burepe> jra: what is server dialog?
[06:37] <rioghal> EnsignRedshirt, You thinking that aptitude reported "no package" or something but it was buried in a bunch of lines?
[06:37] <jra> hit ctrl-s
[06:37] <Ash-Fox> Anyone happen to know any hardware vendors like http://system76.com that sell high end laptops - linux supported in Europe?
[06:38] <EnsignRedshirt> rioghal: Just wondering...
[06:38] <jra> there's an "Edit" to the right which let's you choose the charset
[06:38] <noobcook> ill try install module assist manualy
[06:38] <noobcook> AH
[06:38] <rioghal> noobcook, if you do it manually, you'll need the deps
[06:39] <noobcook> nice hit rioghal ,http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=333264
[06:39] <noobcook> someone had the same problem but no help
[06:39] <rioghal> noobcook, 
[06:39] <OrionDax> EVILGOLD: Ummm... I don't suspose you could walk me through installing it?
[06:40] <rioghal> I love those forums
[06:40] <malt> my DESKTOP sysytem X will not work at all now, plz help! here is the error log ---> http://pastebin.com/856492
[06:40] <malt> system x*
[06:41] <clayg> can someone help me? I tried to install beryl and gdm crashes, I can pull the error message if anyone is willing to gimme a hand ofr a minute
[06:41] <jra> malt: " At least one Device section is required."  that's pretty informative, I'd say
[06:41] <kenthomson> Hello!
[06:41] <rikai> My fujifilm camera camera shows up fine in DSC mode... but doesnt show up at all in pc cam mode, not even in lsusb or /proc/bus/usb/devices... anyone have any idea why this could be? I remeber it showing up fine before.
[06:42] <mvfeinstein> Can anyone here help me... I cant seem to log into gnome.
[06:42] <kenthomson> HELP: What is the shortcut to "hide a panel"?
[06:42] <evilgold> OrionDax, that site should walk you threw it, but you can ask me if you have any questions
[06:42] <OrionDax> Ok
[06:42] <kenthomson> I am having two panel hide buttons on either side, but is their a shortcut with which i cant press them to hide/unhide the panel???
[06:43] <Marupa> The two most concerning devices are my tablet and the EMS USB2.  I absolutely have to have the tablet working.
[06:43] <s34n> cinerella.org says they have an ubuntu repo at "deb http://www.kiberpipa.org/~muzzol/cinelerra/bin/ ./"
[06:43] <noobcook> hey rioghal is it possible that my universe section of the Ubuntu repositories is enabled?
[06:43] <EnsignRedshirt> noobcook: Do you have the universe repository enabled?
[06:43] <rioghal> malt, did you make a backup of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file before editing it?
[06:43] <s34n> is that a valid repo string?
[06:43] <noobcook> lol EnsignRedshirt
[06:43] <EnsignRedshirt> noobcook: Great minds think alike...
[06:43] <malt> rioghal: no i wasn't trying to edit it
[06:43] <rioghal> EnsignRedshirt, hehe
[06:43] <malt> some app edited it
[06:43] <rioghal> malt, have you ever edited it?
[06:43] <noobcook> EnsignRedshirt: whats the com to enable it?
[06:43] <kenthomson> Anyone, knows how to hide a panel?
[06:44] <malt> rioghal: tryed to reconfig after it messed up
[06:44] <OrionDax> EVILGOLD: Unfortunatly I have the disc at a friend's house so I may not be able to do this until friday, but thanks for all your help.
[06:44] <rioghal> malt, so you don't have a backup of that file?
[06:44] <EnsignRedshirt> noobcook: Sorry, I forget (to be honest, I usually use Synaptic).  I'm sure there's a page on the wiki with the command.
[06:44] <rioghal> !repos | noobcook
[06:44] <ubotu> noobcook: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:44] <malt> rioghal: no
[06:44] <kenthomson> ? :(
[06:46] <OzoneCo> i have a vmware browser appliance that allows the mouse on and off the screen without the Ctrl_Alt, can that be duplicated on other vm's?
[06:46] <guiller> any speak portugese i instaled my hardware gf 6800 xt is on ... but no acelerate grafics.... i need help and channel ubuntu in portuguese no people online ....
[06:46] <rioghal> noobcook, here is my sources.list file: http://pastebin.com/856493
[06:46] <B_166-ER-X> hi, i just installed a new monitor, Widescreen, and i have been able to make it work on ubuntu edgy, but not with beryl, any help ?   here is my xorg.conf, my video card is a nvidia 7300Gs , http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1137/
[06:46] <noobcook> rioghal:  thanks
[06:47] <rioghal> noobcook, Be aware that I am on Dapper, not Edgy
[06:47] <noobcook> i thought repositories was a tablet forced up your ass if you cant have medicine swallowed
[06:47] <noobcook> haha
[06:47] <noobcook> ok
[06:47] <rioghal> hahahahaha
[06:47] <crimsun> suppositories.
[06:47] <noobcook> ah ok
[06:47] <noobcook> =D
[06:47] <rioghal> hiya crimsun
[06:48] <Marupa> rioghal, sorry to bother you directly, but I'd like an answer.  Those two items are the only two things currently impeding my decision.
[06:48] <noobcook> btw rioghal i got songbird to work and its cool
[06:48] <rioghal> noobcook, the great thing about the howto you are following is it's on a wiki, which means you can add to it if you have important info for the rest of the community.
[06:49] <noobcook> cool
[06:49] <EnsignRedshirt> noobcook: You are using dapper, according to your sources.list
[06:49] <rioghal> Marupa, I'm not real good with xorg stuff, I was just hoping you had a backup of xorg.conf to compare it to.
[06:49] <noobcook> thats not mine EnsignRedshirt thats rioghals
[06:49] <noobcook> im 6.10 edgy
[06:49] <EnsignRedshirt> noobcook: Doh! Nevermind
[06:49] <rioghal> hehe
[06:49] <noobcook> =p
[06:50] <rioghal> noobcook, What is songbird?
[06:50] <Marupa> rioghal, I think you have me confused with someone else.  My question was about my EMS USB2 and my tablet.
[06:50] <rioghal> noobcook, Since it isn't in the repos, you can help the community by posting a how to of how you got it to work.. either on the forums or the wiki (preferable)
[06:51] <noobcook> its a next gen music player
[06:51] <noobcook> !songbird
[06:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about songbird - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:51] <noobcook> damn
[06:51] <rioghal> Marupa, You are correct, sorry about the confusion. And I have never even seen a tablet.
[06:51] <noobcook> i have the script if u want it rioghal
[06:51] <Moosejaw> im thinking about changing from gnome to kde
[06:51] <rioghal> noobcook, Thanks, but I'm quite happy with xmms 
[06:52] <Moosejaw> do u install kubuntu to install kde?
[06:52] <noobcook> hhehe
[06:52] <B_166-ER-X> hi, i just installed a new monitor, Widescreen, and i have been able to make it work on ubuntu edgy, but not with beryl, any help ?   here is my xorg.conf, my video card is a nvidia 7300Gs , http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1137/
[06:52] <rioghal> Moosejaw, kubuntu-desktop
[06:52] <Moosejaw> k thanks
[06:52] <Marupa> rioghal, Do you know anyone who would have the answers?
[06:52] <Moosejaw> is it advised to uninstall gnome if you love kde?
[06:52] <mvfeinstein> Can anyone here help me with gnome... I am having a lot of problems getting to to work
[06:53] <rioghal> Marupa, No, but a good idea would be to try posting your question on http://ubuntuforums.org , it's an excellent way to get answers if no one replies in this channel.
[06:53] <rioghal> Moosejaw, not at all, lots of people run both
[06:53] <EnsignRedshirt> mvfeinstein: Just ask
[06:53] <EnsignRedshirt> !anyone
[06:53] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:53] <asc> Moostjaw, probably not, unless maybe you desperately need the disk space.
[06:54] <rioghal> EnsignRedshirt, you got brown pants to go with that red shirt? Bring me my brown pants!
[06:54] <matthew0507> hi everyone
[06:55] <rioghal> EnsignRedshirt, http://www.boyscouttrail.com/content/skit/skit-115.asp
[06:55] <matthew0507> #kubuntu
[06:56] <EnsignRedshirt> rioghal: :)
[06:56] <Moosejaw> rioghal I got this error when I tried to install. The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:56] <Moosejaw>   kubuntu-desktop: Depends: xorg but it is not going to be installed
[06:56] <Moosejaw> E: Broken packages
[06:56] <burepe> what is the command to see how much memory I have?
[06:57] <EnsignRedshirt> rioghal: http://echosphere.net/star_trek_insp/star_trek_insp.html
[06:57] <asc> burpee: 'cat /var/meninfo probably'
[06:57] <rioghal> burepe, free
[06:57] <asc> *meminfo
[06:57] <burepe> thanks
[06:57] <Slash> hi again!
[06:57] <EnsignRedshirt> rioghal: Check out "Ensign Ricky" in "Expendability"
[06:57] <asc> or that might work too
[06:57] <rioghal> Moosejaw, Do you have xorg installed?
[06:58] <asc> I'm trying to make a dual-monitor setup (non-TwinView) using two video cards; one is integrated, one is PCI.  I have tested them and their monitors independently, and found that their configurations are correct.  Unsurprisingly, doing, say, 'sudo gdm' does not start a gdm session on both monitors.  In BIOS, I can select between 'integrated' and 'auto' (read: other) video devices, so I don't know if it's even possible to get this to w
[06:58] <Moosejaw> maybe not
[06:58] <Moosejaw> hehe
[06:59] <rioghal> ROFL @ "Guess who's not coming back."
[06:59] <asc> hmm, I wonder if that's too much to paste in
[06:59] <noobcook> damn i cant find out how to enable repositories
[06:59] <EnsignRedshirt> rioghal: :)
[07:00] <Slash> hi!
[07:00] <Slash> over at wikipedia
[07:00] <Slash> RyJones
[07:00] <Slash> says that the BSD license is better than the GPL
[07:00] <Slash> any arguments on why not?
[07:00] <Moosejaw> rioghal I am getting an error trying to install xorg as well
[07:00] <Moosejaw> not sure whats going on
[07:00] <Moosejaw> i think i need to install this libgl1-mesa-glx
[07:01] <Moosejaw> where do i find that?
[07:01] <jinx099> how do I change fsck settings on bootup?
[07:01] <rioghal> Slash, No offense, but that is a silly and time-wasting argument.
[07:01] <EnsignRedshirt> noobcook: There are a few web pages about it. Synaptic version: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[07:01] <Slash> Moosejaw:packages.debian.org/unstable/libs/libgl1-mesa-glx
[07:01] <Slash> arg
[07:01] <Slash> um
[07:01] <rioghal> Moosejaw, are you running gnome desktop now?
[07:01] <Slash> packages.debian.org/unstable/libs/libgl1-mesa-glx
[07:01] <Moosejaw> YES
[07:01] <noobcook> i just went into syaptic and click repos universe but it was already marked but i hadn't reloaded it, maybe that was the problem
[07:01] <EnsignRedshirt> noobcook: Command line: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[07:01] <Moosejaw> sorry
[07:01] <Moosejaw> yes
[07:01] <Moosejaw> hehe
[07:02] <EnsignRedshirt> noobcook: That could be it.
[07:02] <rioghal> Moosejaw, then you already have xorg.. I'm not sure what's up with that "Broken Packages" error.
[07:02] <Moosejaw> whats weird
[07:02] <Moosejaw> is i checked with synaptic and it doesnt have xorg checked
[07:02] <rioghal> noobcook, Ah, yes, any time you make changes to sources.list, you have to update to see the new packages.
[07:02] <noobcook> ah
[07:03] <rioghal> Moosejaw, I believe it would be listed as xserver-xorg-core
[07:03] <PMantis> I have a Breezy box that always boots without a default route... even though a "gateway" entry exists in /etc/network/interfaces    Ideas?
[07:03] <rioghal> noobcook, either sudo aptitude update or sudo apt-get update
[07:03] <noobcook> xmms is cool
[07:03] <noobcook> im gona go with aptitude
[07:03] <noobcook> its updating the synaptic atm
[07:03] <malt> FINNALY GOT THE RES FIXED!
[07:03] <EnsignRedshirt> noobcook: (...or "Reload" in Synaptic)
[07:04] <noobcook> yeh
[07:04] <malt> For anyone that has res problems just do the auto command mostly, all you got to do then is choose your video card name, and the res with this ---> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[07:04] <Moosejaw> hrm...
[07:04] <Moosejaw> it might be a repository issue
[07:04] <malt> PMantis: you want a static lan ip?
[07:04] <rioghal> Moosejaw, That would make sense
[07:05] <Moosejaw> wheres a good list?
[07:05] <Moosejaw> hehe
[07:05] <malt> PMantis: in networking you can choose a static lan ip and default gateway
[07:05] <rioghal> OMG! It's 10pm here.. it was 6pm when I sat down, lol
[07:05] <PMantis> malt, I have one. I have multiple Ubuntu servers here. Only *THIS* one boots up without a default route.
[07:05] <rioghal> !easysource | Moosejaw
[07:05] <ubotu> Moosejaw: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:06] <noobcook> !xmms
[07:06] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[07:06] <noobcook> is there a developing site so i can dl skins
[07:06] <rioghal> for xmms?
[07:06] <noobcook> yeh
[07:07] <rioghal> http://www.xmms.org/skins.php
[07:07] <noobcook> songbird doesn't support Mp3 aparently
[07:07] <noobcook> ah ty
[07:07] <rioghal> :(
[07:07] <PMantis> malt, By "in networking" I assume you mean in some GUI somewhere. This is a server, no X installed.
[07:08] <malt> PMantis: oh.
[07:08] <rioghal> noobcook, There's also this site for xmms skins, which has a lot more: http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=130
[07:08] <hagabaka> a program (darcs send) is trying to send mail, but it just stays in the mailq. how can I configure it to send mail to an SMTP server?
[07:08] <rioghal> noobcook, if you use gnome, http://www.gnome-look.org  and  http://art.gnome.org  are your friends 
[07:08] <noobcook> okay cool
[07:09] <jughead> I'm an ubuntu user that installed KDE, and the fonts in KDE look very very bad.  Is there something I can do to fix this?
[07:09] <noobcook> is it true theres gona be a KDE3?
[07:09] <rioghal> jughead, ask that question in #kubuntu
[07:10] <jughead> sounds like a plan rioghal thanks
[07:10] <rioghal> noobcook, There already is
[07:10] <rioghal> In fact KDE4 is in the works
[07:10] <noobcook> can you download it?
[07:10] <noobcook> really?
[07:10] <noobcook> wow
[07:10] <anubis> freshinstall after automatix, and web browsers will not load images
[07:10] <noobcook> i remember when i first used linux for like a week when i was 15 i had kde 1 i think
[07:10] <noobcook> cant belive i was so stupid not to touch it again till 4 days ago
[07:11] <noobcook> i saw the KDE on solaris 10 and it looks good
[07:11] <rioghal> Edgy has KDE 3.5.5
[07:11] <rioghal> anubis, automatix is not supported here
[07:11] <rioghal> !automatix
[07:11] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:11] <anubis> rioghal: didn't ask you to support it
[07:11] <anubis> The image http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42436000/jpg/_42436683_iphone_ap203b.jpg cannot be displayed, because it contains errors.
[07:12] <anubis> Is the FF browser that comes with the OS supported here?
[07:12] <rioghal> not if automatix messed it up, which it probably did.
[07:12] <anubis> sure it did
[07:12] <noobcook> its like calling up microsoft and telling them u tried 2 install a linux program =p
[07:12] <Madpilot> anubis, does autobreakitz still attempt to update FF for you?
[07:12] <noobcook> they hang up on u
[07:12] <rioghal> Try #automatix
[07:12] <anubis> let someone who is sure of what they are talking about answer please
[07:12] <OzoneCo> !botsnack
[07:12] <ubotu> Yum!
[07:13] <noobcook> rioghal knows what hes talking about =)
[07:13] <rioghal> s/he/she/
[07:13] <noobcook> sorry
[07:13] <rioghal> 
[07:13] <noobcook> frudian slip
[07:13] <noobcook> is that how u spell it
[07:13] <h3xis> freudian
[07:13] <noobcook> ah k
[07:13] <noobcook> what a wierdo
[07:14] <EnsignRedshirt> noobcook: "Is that how u spell it"... too funny
[07:14] <noobcook> lol
[07:14] <rioghal> hahaha
[07:14] <pulaski> hello
[07:14] <noobcook> wait i get it
[07:14] <noobcook> ahahaha
[07:14] <rioghal> This channel ROCKS!
[07:14] <noobcook> yeh its good
[07:14] <threeonefour> is there a problem with ubuntu servers   if not i have a problem that i need help with. when ever i try to download packages or add programs via the apps menu a get a weird error
[07:14] <noobcook> its dulled my anger for wanting to stab the bank in the face for not giving me a smart card
[07:14] <rioghal> threeonefour, If you're using the US servers, they are painfully slow at the moment.
[07:15] <pulaski> has anyone here had any success loading the application TiLP?
[07:15] <Lynx-> How can I make vim use its syntax highlighting? Currently I get "E319: Sorry, the command is not available in this version: :syntax enable"
[07:15] <threeonefour> rioghal, how do i check witch sers i am using
[07:15] <pulaski> or I should say running the application tilp
[07:15] <muj0> has anyone else had a problem with the backspace on OpenOffice with Edgy?
[07:15] <threeonefour> rioghal, how do i check witch servers i am using
[07:15] <rioghal> threeonefour, cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:15] <anubis> I fixed it
[07:16] <anubis> thanks
[07:16] <rioghal> threeonefour, see if there are any http://us.archive.* things in there
[07:16] <host`> !ntfs
[07:16] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:17] <thepumpkin1979_> hi. Can i Know which processes are using sockets in edgy?
[07:17] <emss> Lynx-:  :enable syntax
[07:17] <FreeNet> hi people, will like to know a can a full featured ubuntu run on a 2GB thumbdrive?
[07:17] <threeonefour> rioghal, i am in canada  and it says http://ca.blah.blah
[07:17] <Lynx-> emss: I get E319: Sorry, the command is not available in this version: :syntax enable
[07:17] <thepumpkin1979_> what command does that?
[07:17] <Lynx-> oops
[07:17] <emss> Lynx-: :help <topic>, and try #vim
[07:17] <emss> Lynx-: is vim installed?
[07:17] <muj0> neither my backspace or the cursor work on OO, I have version 2.0.4 using Edgy
[07:17] <Lynx-> sure
[07:17] <rioghal> threeonefour, I'm not sure about the ca servers
[07:17] <emss> Lynx-: vim might just be a symlink to vi
[07:18] <Lynx-> it is
[07:18] <threeonefour> rioghal, i get  error 113 no route to host   something like that
[07:18] <noobcook> hey to see changes to kernel do i need to reboot
[07:18] <Lynx-> E492: Not an editor command: enable syntax
[07:18] <noobcook> or can i just log?
[07:18] <emss> Lynx-: dpkg --list | grep vim
[07:18] <emss> Lynx-: that will show if it's installed
[07:19] <Lynx-> ii  vim-common                                 7.0-035+1ubuntu5                     Vi IMproved - Common files
[07:19] <Lynx-> ii  vim-tiny                                   7.0-035+1ubuntu5                     Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor - compact v
[07:19] <Lynx-> i say, it is
[07:19] <rioghal> noobcook, If the changes are moidules, they can be loaded, but I forget how to do that.
[07:19] <emss> Lynx-: vim-tiny probably does not have syntax highlighting
[07:19] <rioghal> threeonefour, Do you get this error for every one of the repos in your list, or just some of them?
[07:19] <emss> Lynx-: try vim-full
[07:19] <Lynx-> that means that there is also a package "vim"? i'll try that
[07:19] <Lynx-> vim-full, okay
[07:20] <emss> Lynx-: in console type: aptitude search vim
[07:20] <jacked> where can I find a list of laptops on which Ubuntu works flawless
[07:20] <threeonefour> rioghal, all of them even from repos for wine from winehq servers
[07:20] <Lynx-> there are two packages: vim and vim-full, i'm installing both
[07:20] <rioghal> jacked, you might try the top of this page:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[07:21] <malt> I installed VNC on my server, and in VNC viewer, i can only see like half the screen, and if i make VNC full size around it is black
[07:21] <malt> how can i get it to show 1024 in my VNC to?
[07:21] <malt> instead of like 600
[07:21] <rioghal> threeonefour, is this the same box from which you are currently irc'ing?
[07:21] <malt> I got my server now at 1024 res
[07:21] <threeonefour> rioghal, and i have updated some of these allready but it still says i have to upgrade them agian
[07:21] <s34n> Is anybody here using cinelerra?
[07:21] <noobcook> brb rebooting
[07:22] <noobcook> home this works
[07:22] <threeonefour> rioghal, yes  Edubuntu 6.10
[07:22] <threeonefour> rioghal,  running  LTSP
[07:22] <rioghal> What is LTSP?
[07:23] <threeonefour> rioghal,  Linux Terminal Server Project   aka  thinclients
[07:23] <threeonefour> rioghal,  Linux Terminal Server Project   aka  thin clients
[07:23] <rioghal> Well, that might be the culprit
[07:23] <threeonefour> rioghal,  for more info go to #LTSP
[07:23] <rioghal> Do they have some kind of contact page?
[07:23] <rioghal> Oh, well, there's your support, lol
[07:23] <emss> ext3 is slow compared to reiser4 :(
[07:24] <threeonefour> rioghal,  but it has worked fine before and after ltsp   not to mention this is the server
[07:25] <EnsignRedshirt> emss: Just curious... what are you doing that you notice a difference?
[07:25] <RedStamp> mwahaha I killed Ubuntu
[07:25] <RedStamp> it wont boot
[07:25] <crav> gg
[07:25] <emss> EnsignRedshirt: installing packages
[07:25] <emss> EnsignRedshirt: removing them too
[07:25] <mvfeinstien> clear
[07:26] <david_> ahhhhhh
[07:26] <rioghal> threeonefour, Not sure, I don't see any help in my searches.
[07:26] <Lynx-> the "vim" package works ok, no need to install vim-full
[07:26] <david_> i think its better
[07:26] <Lynx-> thanks
[07:26] <david_> woot
[07:26] <david_> rioghal:  i belive it worked =D
[07:26] <emss> EnsignRedshirt: this same computer was very fast running Debian unstable but something happened :\
[07:26] <EnsignRedshirt> emss: How are you able to compare the two?
[07:27] <rioghal> david_, ???
[07:27] <rioghal> david_, who are you?
[07:27] <david_> o crap!
[07:27] <noobcook> heh
[07:27] <noobcook> there we go
[07:27] <noobcook> dont know why it does that
[07:27] <EnsignRedshirt> :)
[07:27] <rioghal> ah, hah!
[07:28] <sipa> hello, to day herd2 is out?
[07:28] <rioghal> noobcook, So you got the kernel stuff fixed?
[07:28] <threeonefour> rioghal,  it works if i manualy download the .deb files and do it that way  but if i try to use intergreated it messes
[07:28] <noobcook> rioghal: yeh my display is very good now with the other than default drivers now about VMware how do u recommend i go about it
[07:28] <rioghal> threeonefour, sounds like possibly a syntax error in your sources.list
[07:29] <guiller> what is better compiz or beryl ??
[07:29] <rioghal> noobcook, When you have time, you might do a little write up that may help other people with this problem. You can add it to the wiki or the forums.. wiki os probably better.
[07:29] <un_operateur> threeonefour, do you get any error messages?
[07:29] <threeonefour> rioghal,  i will paste bot it so u can check it ok
[07:29] <rioghal> threeonefour, I'll have a look
[07:30] <noobcook> rioghal: i think it was more me overlooking what was written than a ubuntu problem =p
[07:30] <threeonefour> un_operateur, error 113 No route to host
[07:30] <riotkittie> ewww. i installed mouseemu because i was hoping to save my wrist. its eating 50% of my cpu :o
[07:30] <emss> EnsignRedshirt: guiller ask in #beryl I think though that beryl is the successor to compiz
[07:30] <mvfeinstien> Can anyone here suggest a music player like amarok that is not made for KDE?
[07:30] <SurfnKid> xmms
[07:30] <un_operateur> threeonefour, errm, do you get that as a result to a command you type?
[07:31] <emss> mvfeinstien: rhythmbox
[07:31] <rioghal> noobcook, Ay, ok, glad you figured that out.
[07:31] <un_operateur> mvfeinstien, vlc / audacity
[07:31] <emss> mvfeinstien: oh like amarok there is one for gnome I forget, let me look it up
[07:31] <Vuen> hi #ubuntu, i'm using a multimonitor setup using twinview, but when i tell VLC to play fullscreen, it goes on the wrong monitor. how do i tell VLC what monitor to use?
[07:32] <riotkittie> which brings me to this >> is there some means of enabling mouse emulation/mouse keys/mouse on the numberpad / in gnome?  beyond the suggested CTRL + Shift + Num Lock, which does not work for me at all
[07:32] <threeonefour> rioghal,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1139/
[07:32] <threeonefour> un_operateur, what command
[07:32] <noobcook> hi un_operateur
[07:33] <un_operateur> hey noobcook
[07:33] <QRZ`> hi
[07:33] <cokeslut> Hello
[07:33] <un_operateur> threeonefour, that error -- how does it come about?
[07:34] <TheoMurpse> Can anyone point me to an installing-Ubuntu-on-a-MacBook-Pro guide? I've not been able to find any written after Bootcamp was released.
[07:34] <malt> anyone know the command to restart ubuntu system?
[07:34] <rioghal> riotkittie, for mouse movement via numpad, check out the Accessibility button at the bottom of the Keyboard Prefs window.. then go to the Mouse Keys tab in the new window.
[07:34] <noobcook> is it possible to mount the MBR or is that dangerous?
[07:34] <TheoMurpse> malt: Ctrl-Alt-holdthepowerbuttondown
[07:34] <emss> mvfeinstien: http://www.exaile.org/
[07:34] <malt> TheoMurpse i'm in ssh :P
[07:34] <un_operateur> malt, from the terminal? sudo shutdown -r now
[07:34] <TheoMurpse> malt: whops.
[07:34] <malt> thnks!
[07:34] <malt> thanks!
[07:34] <threeonefour> un_operateur, when i try to update or get packages from synaptic or try to get new apps from application menu add remove
[07:34] <un_operateur> malt, or simply -- sudo reboot
[07:34] <rioghal> noobcook, I can't think of any situation where you'd need to do that
[07:34] <cokeslut> you tell me ;)
[07:35] <riotkittie> rioghal: ok, let me load X and give that a go. if it works, you are my new hero
[07:35] <noobcook> rioghal my windows MBR is corrupt id like to moutn it so i can restore the defaults
[07:36] <MarkDetroit> I need some help with Ubuntu 6.10 and an ATI radeon x700.  Solved the issue with the Live CD and installed, but now when booting from HDD, I get the same hang.  Can anyone help??
[07:36] <un_operateur> threeonefour, well, it does sound like a networking issue .. does all other networking stuff work ok? can you get on the internet without problems?
[07:36] <rioghal> threeonefour, try tis: sudo apt-get update  and then see what you can hit.. I am using the URL's in your sources.list and I can open those URL's fine.
[07:36] <mvfeinstien> emss cool thank you
[07:36] <threeonefour> un_operateur, yes whell i am taling to you arent i this is the comp so
[07:37] <riotkittie> omg! thank you, rioghal!! i dont know how i overlooked that >blush<  thank you, thank you, thank you!
[07:37] <rioghal> riotkittie, You're quite welcome  Glad it worked for you
[07:37] <un_operateur> malt, errm .. as-is  -- sudu shutdown -r now  ... you forgot the time "now" :)
[07:37] <malt> un_operateur thanks!
[07:38] <freshburn> really sorry for such a newb issue but...
[07:38] <freshburn> my wife loves the games that come with gnome/ubuntu but my desktop and me like kubuntu/kde better
[07:38] <rioghal> riotkittie, Well, it is kinda confusing to have to open keyboard properties for something that would seem to be in mouse properties
[07:38] <un_operateur> threeonefour, try what rioghal said -- sudo apt-get update  -- see how that fares
[07:38] <rioghal> freshburn, you can install and run most gnome apps in kde and they work fine. The only thing you might notice is that kde has to load gnome libs to run the gnome apps.
[07:38] <freshburn> i copied the games form /usr/games to a thumbdrive from my ubuntu live cd and tried to use them on the kubuntu machine and it doesnt do anything when i click on them
[07:39] <MarkDetroit> I need some help with Ubuntu 6.10 and an ATI radeon x700.  Solved the issue with the Live CD and installed, but now when booting from HDD, I get the same hang.  Can anyone help??
[07:39] <MrOregon> hello
[07:39] <cvsekhar> hi
[07:39] <rioghal> freshburn, That's because you didn't copy over the deps too
[07:39] <emss> MarkDetroit: how did you solve the issue with livecd?
[07:39] <EnsignRedshirt> freshburn: You should install the packages.
[07:39] <un_operateur> freshburn, errm, install the gnome-games package
[07:39] <threeonefour> rioghal, unoperateur, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1140/
[07:40] <freshburn> i.e. apt-get install gnome-games?
[07:40] <threeonefour> rioghal, unoperateur, this is what i got
[07:40] <threeonefour> rioghal, un_operateur, this is what i got
[07:40] <un_operateur> threeonefour, heh, you using a proxy server?
[07:41] <threeonefour> un_operateur, what is the hostname of this comp to you
[07:41] <un_operateur> freshburn, that ought to do, yes
[07:41] <freshburn> ty
[07:41] <un_operateur> threeonefour, which comp?
[07:41] <threeonefour> un_operateur, when you whois me
[07:42] <freshburn> so kde/kubuntu will run gnome apps and such, i thought it was a run pc soft on a mac kinda thing
[07:43] <rioghal> freshburn, no, lots of people use gnome apps in kde and vice-versa, it doesn't hurt a thing.
[07:43] <riotkittie> freshburn: yes, many of the DE  apps can be used under the other desktop environments
[07:43] <freshburn> sweet, i am glad to hear im ignorant :)
[07:43] <pepper> hi, can someone help me out?
[07:43] <rioghal> hahahaha
[07:43] <un_operateur> threeonefour, it's a shawcable.net address
[07:43] <riotkittie> ooh that reminds me. i need to fix my app menus in enlightenment sometime.
[07:43] <threeonefour> un_operateur, thats me
[07:44] <rioghal> freshburn, Can you get to  http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/  in your firefox?
[07:44] <pepper> i seem to have switched something around, and my x server isn't starting...
[07:44] <freshburn> ok one more question, are more devices supported in edgy or should i spend my efforts getting dapper to run on both my desktop and laptop
[07:44] <riotkittie> pepper: any idea what that something may have been?
[07:44] <pepper> well, i was trying to install new drivers for my video card
[07:44] <un_operateur> threeonefour, well, the fact that apt-get is trying to reach the servers on port 8080 rather than 80 suggests to me that you use/used a proxy .. can you double check?
[07:45] <freshburn> rioghal, i have to switch to xp to use the net, cant get ubuntu or kubuntu to recognize my modem or my wifi
[07:45] <mvfeinstien> in gnome when defining keyboard shortcuts how do I define which program they are for?
[07:45] <pepper> i seem to need a system restore
[07:45] <freshburn> hp pavilion ze4930
[07:45] <Tajmox> What do I use to access my XBOX mem card?  I have a usb adapter for my controller.
[07:45] <freshburn> intel 8something modem and broadcom 9430 wifi
[07:46] <riotkittie> pepper: which video card ? and did you install from synaptic/apt/aptitude?
[07:46] <rioghal> mvfeinstien, Have a look at this page http://www.gnomehelp.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Gnome212.GnomeKeybindings
[07:46] <pepper> i installed it from the command line, it was the nvidia legacy drivers,
[07:47] <pepper> i remember my video card being a tmt2/tmt2 pro or something to that effect
[07:47] <riotkittie> id try sudo apt-get remove <that package> and restoring your previous Xorg.conf file
[07:47] <un_operateur> threeonefour, errm, also, ca.archive.ubuntu.com resolves to 211.162.62.161 for you and 206.167.141.10 for me, yet again suggesting you use a proxy
[07:47] <riotkittie> then again, i am a big baby
[07:48] <rioghal> un_operateur, good catch on the proxy 
[07:48] <un_operateur> rioghal, :)
[07:48] <threeonefour> un_operateur, rioghal, SOB  a damn ID10T error  i was behind a proxy i for got that i did that after i got home from the bar
[07:48] <pepper> the last thing my terminal history says is "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[07:48] <un_operateur> threeonefour, :)
[07:48] <threeonefour> un_operateur, rioghal, it all work now
[07:48] <rioghal> threeonefour, I think "the bar" might have something to do with that, lol
[07:49] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu>  GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263 .... is this normal?
[07:49] <threeonefour> un_operateur, rioghal, maybe just maybe
[07:49] <un_operateur> threeonefour, yea, a night of heavy drinking was it? =) j/k
[07:49] <rioghal> GreyGhost-Ubuntu, you need to find the key that was used to sign their packages, they have recently posted the key
[07:49] <threeonefour> un_operateur, rioghal, no just sharing a 40 pounder with 4 firends
[07:50] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> rioghal ,ok ... i'll look for it
[07:50] <MarkDetroit> I need some help with Ubuntu 6.10 and an ATI radeon x700.  Solved the issue with the Live CD and installed, but now when booting from HDD, I get the same hang.  Can anyone help??
[07:50] <un_operateur> threeonefour, i'm not familiar with the term -- what's a "40 pounder" ?
[07:50] <freshburn> rioghal-is it important because i recall my installation giving me a message like that also but other than my modem and wireless NIC everything seems to work ok
[07:50] <freshburn> 40oz
[07:50] <noobcook> rioghal: how do i open up xorg again
[07:50] <threeonefour> un_operateur, rioghal, do you know a 2 6
[07:51] <threeonefour> un_operateur, do you know a 2 6
[07:51] <un_operateur> threeonefour, errm, don't think so
[07:51] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> MarkDetroit ,i don't have an ATI ... but u could tell what the problem was in the first place?
[07:51] <elyon225> Hey, guys.  I'm having a problem.  Has anyone here ever installed Mandiva that could give me a hand?
[07:52] <rioghal> noobcook, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  <-- for changing xorg
[07:52] <MarkDetroit> GreyGHost, my system hangs on the splash screen at boot
[07:52] <pradeep> elyon225, there's a #mandriva (if you meant the distro)
[07:52] <un_operateur> elyon225, errm, is it a general gnu/linux question or something specific to #mandriva?
[07:52] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> MarkDetroit ,tried safe mode?
[07:52] <noobcook> ty
[07:53] <elyon225> un_operateur: Its specific to mandriva.. I'll try #mandriva.  Sorry.
[07:53] <Tonren> Hey, elyon225 !  Have any luck with that freeze problem the other day?
[07:53] <un_operateur> elyon225, no need to apologise, i was going to suggest you head there because you are bound to get better help there
[07:53] <noobcook> rioghal:  i mean the text version of xorg
[07:53] <BHSPitMonkey> "This package is optimized for i686 and will not run on subarchitectures that don't support features enabled in i686."  <-  What exactly does this mean, to me? I'm not sure what the qualifier is for "i686".
[07:54] <pepper> another question, while my other one's being answered... how do i scroll up in irssi?
[07:54] <rioghal> noobcook, are you trying to edit it?
[07:54] <MarkDetroit> GreyGhost , yes.  I get a root bash and I try to apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx but it won't let me.  Can't find files
[07:54] <un_operateur> BHSPitMonkey, what architecture are you on -- run a uname -m to find out
[07:54] <elyon225> Tonren: No luck.  I've decided to try Mandriva since Ubuntu has given me so many problems.
[07:54] <noobcook> rioghal yeh
[07:54] <cafuego_> BHSPitMonkey: If your computer is less than 8 years old, it'll be fine. Basically you need a Pentium 2 or newer.
[07:54] <Tonren> elyon225: That's a shame.  It just doesn't work for some people.
[07:54] <rioghal> noobcook, xorg.conf is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:54] <Tonren> elyon225: That wasn't the only problem it gave you?
[07:54] <BHSPitMonkey> un_operateur, cafuego_ thank you :)
[07:54] <riotkittie> pepper: page up
[07:54] <noobcook> thats right ty
[07:55] <Tonren> elyon225: Did you have any luck on Google or Ubuntuforums?  You made a post?
[07:55] <elyon225> Tonren: Well, the crashing when logging out.. then random program crashes were happening constantly too.
[07:55] <pepper> thanks
[07:55] <Tonren> elyon225: That's bizarre.  I've never heard of Ubuntu having so many problems like that.
[07:55] <pepper> i'm going to try to restart, you may see me back soon
[07:56] <mvfeinstien> rioghal thanks for the link but I can seem to find the option that makes rhythmbox the default
[07:56] <threeonefour> un_operateur, think of a bottle about as high as a 17" moniter
[07:56] <elyon225> Tonren: Yeah... everyone I've talked to about Ubuntu has had nothing but good things to say.  So its strange that I would have problems no one has ever heard of before.
[07:56] <freshburn> im thinking of trying other distros also because of the troubles with my laptop modem and wireless adapter
[07:56] <un_operateur> threeonefour, ha ha -- ok ok, i get ya now and that explains a bit :)
[07:56] <Tonren> elyon225: What computer is it installed on?
[07:56] <elyon225> Tonren: So I decided to try Mandriva... but there is no option to actually INSTALL it from the live cd... another problem I can't find a solution for.
[07:56] <w4zz> freshburn what kind of laptop do you have?
[07:56] <freshburn> hp pavilion ze4930
[07:56] <rioghal> mvfeinstien, you in gnome or KDE?
[07:57] <elyon225> Tonren: Its a home computer... not sure what you mean.
[07:57] <Tonren> elyon225: That sucks.  I'm sorry you're having such a negative Linux experience.
[07:57] <mvfeinstien> rioghal gnome
[07:57] <Tonren> elyon225: I mean, what brand name?  Or is it custom built?  Do you know its specs? (How fast, what type of processor, how much memory, etc.)
[07:57] <threeonefour> un_operateur, thought that might help
[07:57] <rioghal> ya'll would crap if you knew how long I have been using Ubuntu after answering all those questions
[07:57] <w4zz> freshburn ok, you tried ubuntu allready? If you have. Open suse is an nice distro
[07:57] <un_operateur> MarkDetroit, that package doesn't seem to exist -- you should follow the wiki at !nvidia or !ati
[07:57] <riotkittie> rioghal: how long?
[07:58] <elyon225> Tonren: Yeah, its custom built.  Pentium 4 2.4C w/HT... 1gb ram, Radeon 9600
[07:58] <rioghal> three and a half months.. but I like to read and I keep an eye on the ubuntuforums
[07:58] <MarkDetroit> un_operateur , Thanks, I'll try it
[07:58] <SurfnKid> hi
[07:58] <SurfnKid> anyone know a simple SMTP mail sender
[07:58] <SurfnKid> sendmail??
[07:58] <Tonren> elyon225: And when you installed, was it on a partition, or did you format the drive?
[07:58] <riotkittie> i love the forums. and this chan. theyre invaluable. and i never fail to learn something. ;P
[07:59] <cafuego_> SurfnKid: nullmailer :-)
[07:59] <rioghal> Yeah, this channel is the bst one on Freenode
[07:59] <EnsignRedshirt> elyon225: Sorry to butt in... but with the kinds of seemingly random crashes you mentioned, I would run memory tests, if you haven't already.
[07:59] <elyon225> Tonren: I partitioned my drives... have Windows installed too (although I'm ready to totally get rid of it)
[07:59] <rioghal> s/bst/best/
[07:59] <SurfnKid> cafuego, th
[07:59] <SurfnKid> x
[07:59] <un_operateur> SurfnKid, maybe ssmtp
[07:59] <cafuego_> SurfnKid: the easiest "complex" one is probably postfix.
[07:59] <un_operateur> !info ssmtp
[07:59] <ubotu> ssmtp: extremely simple MTA to get mail off the system to a mail hub. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.61-7 (edgy), package size 35 kB, installed size 8 kB
[07:59] <SurfnKid> i see
[07:59] <SurfnKid> thx
[07:59] <elyon225> EnsignRedshirt: lol I have no idea how to do much of anything in Linux.
[07:59] <cafuego_> But if all you do is sending mail out, that would be overkill.
[07:59] <Tonren> EnsignRedshirt: That seems like a good idea, but wouldn't he be getting errors in Windows as well as Linux if he had a bum DIMM stick or something?
[08:00] <EnsignRedshirt> elyon225: Even before booting... don't most computers have some sort of builtin memory check in the bios?
[08:00] <riotkittie> elyon225: you should be able to test mem from the live CD, IIRC
[08:00] <Tonren> elyon225: Did you create a swap partition when you installed?
[08:00] <EnsignRedshirt> Tonren: Maybe.
[08:00] <rioghal> EnsignRedshirt, during BIOS start, yes
[08:00] <riotkittie> and if not, if you still have ubuntu on disk, you might have a memtest option in GRUB
[08:00] <SurfnKid> Id like to run it as a service so i can send mail from my pc or any other pc
[08:00] <elyon225> Tonren: Yes.
[08:00] <SurfnKid> will ssmtp and nullmail work?
[08:00] <Tonren> elyon225: Is it as large or larger than your RAM?
[08:00] <un_operateur> EnsignRedshirt, but the memory check at POST is a very basic one, it doesnt catch most errors
[08:00] <SurfnKid> mailer i mean
[08:00] <elyon225> Tonren: Although, after installation, that partition isn't visible within the file browser.
[08:01] <Tonren> elyon225: I don't know that it should be, so that probably isn't a problem
[08:01] <elyon225> Tonren: I believe I made my swap partition 2gb (I have 1gb of ram)
[08:01] <kkerwin> Hi. Anyone aware of where I might find a list of Content Management Systems available for Ubuntu?
[08:01] <Tonren> elyon225: Oh, hah, that's overkill.  It doesn't need to be any larger than your RAM.
[08:01] <un_operateur> elyon225, swap partitions aren't generally browsable .. they have no real file system
[08:01] <EnsignRedshirt> un_operateur, elyon225: Ah, OK.  So maybe a thorough memory check is in order, just to be sure that is *not* the problem.
[08:01] <elyon225> Tonren: Okay.. so that could be causing all my problems?
[08:01] <Tonren> elyon225: Naw, I doubt it.
[08:02] <Tonren> elyon225: EnsignRedshirt: I think Ensign's right.  It couldn't hurt to run a memcheck from the live CD.
[08:02] <un_operateur> EnsignRedshirt, yep, use the memtestx86 thingy
[08:02] <corruption> hi
[08:02] <doyle> hey sup guys
[08:02] <rioghal> elyon225, These days I don't think swap needs to be any bigger than 1Gb, since ram can easily be 4Gb now
[08:02] <corruption> can anyone help me
[08:02] <Tonren> !ask > corruption
[08:02] <rioghal> corruption, not until we know what help you need
[08:02] <doyle> if i could figure out xgl on dapper id be all set lol
[08:02] <threeonefour> un_operateur, can KDE programs work within GNOME
[08:03] <un_operateur> rioghal, it's still better to use as much swap space as memory - in case you ever want to hibernate/suspend
[08:03] <cafuego_> rioghal: and even if your SATAII/300 machine swaps 1GB, it'll be unusably slow.
[08:03] <Tonren> doyle: I've tried and failed to set up XGL so many times I've lost count
[08:03] <elyon225> EnsignRedshirt: How do I run a memory check?
[08:03] <un_operateur> threeonefour, sure, why not
[08:03] <doyle> haha nice
[08:03] <cafuego_> rioghal: I tend to limit it to 512Mb; if I run out at 2GB i prefer apps to die rather then th machine to lock up trying to swap stuff out
[08:03] <corruption> I am having problems with alot i installed apache and now i cant edit anything in system files because of a root owner authentification failure and i cant edit any system tasks either
[08:03] <Pepper> well that didn't work...
[08:03] <cafuego_> rioghal: Note: desktop, not server.
[08:03] <mvfeinstien> rioghal any idea how I can get rid of rhythmbox as my default audio app?
[08:04] <Pepper> it seems to be that it's looking for an nvidia card and not detecting one
[08:04] <EnsignRedshirt> elyon225: un_operateur just mentioned the memtestx86 thingy  (wasn't that in Galaxy Quest?)
[08:04] <Tonren> corruption: Do you know about the "sudo" command?
[08:04] <EnsignRedshirt> elyon225: ... on the LiveCD
[08:04] <Pepper> is there any way to do a command line system restore?
[08:04] <elyon225> EnsignRedshirt: Can't do it right now from within Ubuntu?
[08:04] <corruption> yes but when i use sudo it pops up like i dident push anything then enter
[08:04] <rioghal> mvfeinstien, No.. I uninstalled it, sicne I never use it, but..
[08:04] <corruption> im new to linux and ubuntu >.<
[08:04] <un_operateur> EnsignRedshirt, errm, IIRC, you can just edit your grub's menu.lst and eanble the option for memtest86 so it's avaialable from the boot menu
[08:05] <doyle> im new to lol
[08:05] <EnsignRedshirt> elyon225: Not likely.
[08:05] <mvfeinstien> rioghal uninstalled rhythmbox?
[08:05] <rioghal> yes
[08:05] <rioghal> !sudo | corruption
[08:05] <ubotu> corruption: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:05] <Tonren> corruption: Hmm.  Running a webserver might be something you want to come back to when you have a little more experience, but this seems like a simple problem.  What exactly do you get a "No permission" error on?
[08:05] <acdz> how do I set dvds to automount (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=292995)
[08:06] <EnsignRedshirt> elyon225: un_operateur seems to be more clueful than me.  But a thorough memory test writes certain patterns to memory, and then reads them back.  That wouldn't be possible once the OS is running.
[08:06] <corruption> iv been running a web server on windows but heard linux is better
[08:06] <noobcook> LOL
[08:06] <Pepper> this is a tad urgent... is it possible to do a system restore?
[08:06] <mvfeinstien> rioghal I did to, my problem is that when I hit the media key on my keyboard it try to start rhythmbox and errors out because rhythmbox is not present instead of starting the audio app I do have
[08:06] <rioghal> acdz, Preferences -> Removable Drives and Media  .. read the first four checkboxes
[08:06] <noobcook> corruption: of course linux is better =p uve come 2 the right place
[08:07] <rioghal> mvfeinstien, special keys on the keyboard? I don't know how to reconfigure those.
[08:07] <Slodeine> Has anybody ever heard of a laptop under Ubuntu experiencing Kernel panic every time you insert or try to use a wireless PC card?
[08:07] <acdz> rioghal: did that, set to automout removable drives and media
[08:07] <corruption> and iv been to alot of forums and none helped me some said crap like doing su visudo
[08:07] <corruption> but never helped me
[08:07] <EnsignRedshirt> elyon225: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MemoryTest
[08:07] <un_operateur> EnsignRedshirt, well, theoretically, you should be able to check unused parts of memory even while the OS is running, as to whether memtest86 can do this, i am not so sure
[08:07] <doyle> im trying to shrink avi file to fit a movie on a dvd. k9copy doesnt seem to want to do it and when i installed dvd shrink in wine it wont recognize my dvd drive
[08:08] <rioghal> acdz, How about the second item in the Multimedia tab?
[08:08] <EnsignRedshirt> un_operateur: Sure, the unused parts, but clearly not all the memory can be tested.
[08:08] <corruption> nothing administrative on this ubuntu works for me it did now it dont its making me stressed lol
[08:08] <riotkittie> Pepper: as far as i know, no, there is no way to do a sys restore ... you can boot into recovery mode though, and try to undo any changes that you made, if you cant do them in the default install
[08:08] <adub> has anyone setup thc-hydra recently ??  i need help with a setup
[08:08] <kuzmaster> hey everyone!
[08:08] <kuzmaster> !themes
[08:08] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[08:08] <corruption> and sence i installed apache i cant uninstall it and i cant install anything else
[08:09] <corruption> not even updates -_-
[08:09] <acdz> rioghal: you mean do "sudo mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0" in the dvd section?
[08:09] <rioghal> corruption, what happens when you prepend a command with sudo?
[08:09] <riotkittie> but i would... sudo apt-get remove <that driver package> ... and then see if you had an Xorg.conf.old that could be used to restore the default
[08:09] <un_operateur> EnsignRedshirt, well, errm, in real mode memory, even memtest86 has to test the area's it is using .. so sometimes, even the used parts are tested
[08:09] <riotkittie> or ... sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:10] <corruption> just ignores it and pops up with another command line
[08:10] <Slodeine> Can anyone help me with a laptop running Ubuntu that experiences Kernel Panic everytime I try to insert or use a wireless PC card?
[08:10] <corruption> root    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[08:10] <corruption> oops
[08:10] <corruption> corruption@corruption-desktop:~$
[08:10] <corruption> like that
[08:10] <acdz> cds will autmount fine, but dvds wont
[08:10] <un_operateur> corruption, what happens when you issue the  sudo -i  command?
[08:10] <kuzmaster> can do download apache via apt-get?
[08:10] <rioghal> acdz, No, check the box that says "Play video DVD disks when inserted" and for the command, enter your favorite DVD player. See if that works
[08:10] <corruption> corruption@corruption-desktop:~$ sudo -i
[08:10] <corruption> corruption@corruption-desktop:~$          ?
[08:10] <Pepper> that seems to have worked
[08:10] <Pepper> thanks
[08:11] <juano__> where do you configure port numbers for gmail in evolution?
[08:11] <acdz> rioghal: yeah, that box is checked, set to use totem %m (whatever that is)
[08:11] <rioghal> corruption, you didn't give sudo a command, you have to tell sudo to do something
[08:11] <corruption> how so :s
[08:11] <rioghal> acdz, And DVD's won't autoplay in totem when you put them into the drive?
[08:11] <un_operateur> corruption, please refrain from pasting directly in here -- use a !pastebin instead -- ok, what does    /usr/bin/sudo -i give you?
[08:11] <acdz> nope
[08:12] <rioghal> corruption, try this:  sudo apt-get update
[08:12] <acdz> rioghal: but I can maually do it at the terminal
[08:12] <EnsignRedshirt> un_operateur: I don't really know what memtest86 does, so I'll stop speculating :).  The link that I gave elyon225 is an Ubuntu help page for running the memory test.
[08:12] <un_operateur> EnsignRedshirt, i was just nitpicking .. no harm done :p
[08:12] <EnsignRedshirt> un_operateur: No problem... picking nits is important when it comes to computers :)
[08:13] <rioghal> acdz, Are the 1st, 2nd, and 4th boxes checked on the Storage tab?
[08:13] <acdz> 1st, 2nd and 3rd are. I don't want totem to run when I insert a dvd, just automount it
[08:14] <Slodeine> Sorry to repeat myself: does anybody know what could be causing kernel panic whenever I try to insert or use a wireless PC card?
[08:14] <Slodeine> *On a laptop
[08:14] <un_operateur> EnsignRedshirt, yep, but some people can't stand nits and are even more put off when you pick at them .. was just making sure
[08:14] <un_operateur> :)
[08:14] <rioghal> acdz, Well, it should be automounting
[08:14] <acdz> i agree
[08:14] <rioghal> un_operateur, stop nitpicking
[08:15] <Slodeine> Sorry...I'm new to IRC...can anybody even hear/see me?
[08:15] <acdz> rioghal: thanks for trying though
[08:15] <rioghal> Slodeine, Yep
[08:15] <tuxn8r> Can anyone here help me with sound problems for a Realtek HD 262 in a Toshiba Satellite R20?
[08:15] <un_operateur> rioghal, i think i'll do that tho -- tea time :)
[08:15] <rioghal> acdz, Sorry I couldn't be more help
[08:15] <Slodeine> Thanks, Rio.
[08:15] <rioghal> un_operateur, hehe
[08:15] <corruption> yea im new to irc 2 -_-
[08:15] <NICKA> hey guys.
[08:16] <corruption> did rioghal get my private message?
[08:16] <NICKA> my browswers are really screwed up. i tried to install firefox 2.0 over the ubuntu firefox
[08:16] <kuzmaster> if i want to get more themes for ubuntu, what type would i get..... like, do i look for GTK 2 themes, GMD....? what?
[08:16] <NICKA> can anyone help me out
[08:16] <rioghal> corruption, No, because you aren't identified to nickserv
[08:16] <kuzmaster> i am currentally on gnome-look.org
[08:16] <MerlynCoslett> I just installed Ubuntu using the Alternate CD (due to grapics issues within standard cd) now when it boots up after login I get this fuzzy screen that will not go away (GUI), any suggestions, I know it might be a problem with my video card (7800GT), I was also told someone got past it using the recovery console but I do not know exactly what they did
[08:16] <tuxn8r> NICKA, what Ubuntu version are you using?
[08:16] <corruption> :S
[08:16] <NICKA> dapper drake
[08:16] <rioghal> corruption, join #corruption
[08:17] <corruption> #corruption
[08:17] <tuxn8r> NICKA, first of all, I would recommend upgrading to Edgy, but otherwise, try uninstalling both versions and then install the one you want.
[08:17] <rioghal> corruption, /join #corruption
[08:17] <NICKA> i had edgy
[08:17] <NICKA> it didnt work right
[08:18] <tuxn8r> well, you might set up the edgy repos in dapper and pull down the firefox deb
[08:18] <riotkittie> kuzmaster: GTK2. GDM i believe... are like logon  screens but i am not positive
[08:18] <NICKA> i can uninstall the built in firefox?
[08:18] <EnsignRedshirt> NICKA: I probably can't help you, but for those who can, it might be good to explain *how* you tried to install FF2.
[08:18] <riotkittie> GTK1 themes will probably be alright
[08:19] <Joel_melapaa> MerlynCoslett: i had that too, strange after i installed xubuntu it never happened again.
[08:19] <tuxn8r> try using synaptic
[08:19] <NICKA> i installed it too /opt/firefox/firefox
[08:19] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu>  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/multiverse/source/Sources.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1) this normal now?
[08:19] <tuxn8r> do a search for firefox and remove all instances
[08:19] <MerlynCoslett> Joel_melapaa you never found a fix for it?
[08:19] <threeonefour> when looking to download ubuntu live cd   i couldn't find the file
[08:19] <noobcook> hey rioghal whats the apt get command 2 get rid of programs and deps
[08:19] <riotkittie> oh i should shut up. im feeling zombified
[08:19] <NICKA> it worked fine. untill i tried toinstall the update for the old firefox and things went crazy
[08:19] <tuxn8r> and then start back from the beginning
[08:19] <qatsi> how do i change the theme that appears when i open a window as root ?
[08:19] <threeonefour> whats the link to it
[08:20] <rioghal> noobcook, On edgy you can use: sudo apt-get remove --auto-remove appname
[08:20] <znh> Hello,
[08:20] <tuxn8r> yeah, i would remove both versions
[08:20] <Joel_melapaa> MerlynCoslett: no!
[08:20] <znh> My Audigy SE gives very bad output, can someone help me?
[08:20] <tuxn8r> then either get a repo with the new firefox or manually install
[08:20] <NICKA> hrm
[08:20] <NICKA> ill check repos
[08:21] <tuxn8r> then again, you might just try removing the old and get your manual installed one to work
[08:21] <noobcook> rioghal my drivers must not have installed properly :\
[08:21] <znh> I'm using Ubuntu Edge and the card is detected by the kernel. Sound works, but it sounds distorted, help
[08:21] <rioghal> :(
[08:21] <kuzmaster> how do i get more themes for ubuntu
[08:21] <EnsignRedshirt> NICKA: What do you mean "went crazy"?
[08:21] <kuzmaster> do i need GTK themes?
[08:21] <threeonefour> does anyone have the links to the ubuntu live cd's
[08:21] <rioghal> !themes | kuzmaster
[08:21] <ubotu> kuzmaster: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[08:22] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !audio
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:22] <threeonefour> !livecd
[08:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.
[08:22] <EnsignRedshirt> threeonefour: I think all the Ubuntu CDs are live CDs.
[08:22] <riotkittie> kuzmaster: yes, GTK themes
[08:22] <rioghal> EnsignRedshirt, The desktop cd is a live cd, the alternate and server are not
[08:22] <EnsignRedshirt> rioghal: I see.
[08:22] <tuxn8r> all of the edgy CDs are live and install discs
[08:22] <kuzmaster> thanx!
[08:22] <NICKA> when i run firefox
[08:22] <threeonefour> rioghal, are you sure
[08:23] <NICKA> i have to do sudo /opt/firefox/firefox
[08:23] <NICKA> or gksu
[08:23] <NICKA> if i try and type just firefox
[08:23] <acdz> why won't my dvds automount?
[08:23] <NICKA> it says its running and i need to close the service or restart
[08:23] <un_operateur> !enter
[08:23] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:23] <rioghal> threeonefour, That's the way it was for Dapper, it might have changed in Edgy.. I don't use edgy
[08:23] <noobcook> un_operateur can you help me install my ati driver i seem 2 be ahving some problems =(
[08:24] <un_operateur> NICKA,  run this command first -- killall firefox-bin
[08:24] <MerlynCoslett> how would I go about upgrading my graphics drivers within the kernel? or atleast verifying they are properly installed / responding
[08:24] <tuxn8r> nicka, use synaptic and uninstall the dapper version, then create a link in your menu that executes /opt/firefox/firefox
[08:24] <un_operateur> noobcook, I would help if i ran nvidia/ati cards -- but in this instance i'd be as clueless as you .. why aren't you following the wiki?
[08:24] <un_operateur> !ati | noobcook
[08:24] <ubotu> noobcook: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:24] <NICKA> operation not permited
[08:25] <tuxn8r> sudo killall firefox-bin
[08:25] <NICKA> ok
[08:25] <NICKA> now it worked
[08:25] <NICKA> now in order to launch the new one i have to do gksu
[08:25] <un_operateur> tuxn8r, NICKA errm, didn't need the sudo there
[08:25] <noobcook> i tried all that
[08:25] <znh> My Audigy SE gives very bad output, can someone help me? I'm using Ubuntu Edge
[08:25] <qatsi> when you set up your themes, and you open a window as root, the theme inside the window isnt the one in your settings...how do i make it the same ?
[08:25] <noobcook> i actually did it and its in my xorg ect
[08:25] <un_operateur> no no NICKA just open firefox normally now
[08:26] <NICKA> ok
[08:26] <tuxn8r> un_op, he needed it because he sudo'ed the starting of firefox
[08:26] <noobcook> un_operateur:  but then when i type fglrxinfo in terminal it still lists the default drivers for ubuntu
[08:26] <factorx> moin
[08:26] <un_operateur> tuxn8r, i asked him to killall _only_ his instances of firefox .. not roots
[08:26] <tuxn8r> oh alright, i see.
[08:27] <rioghal> tuxn8r, From what I understand, you have to run firefox as root the very first time if you manually install it because that sets up some things for the other users.
[08:27] <NICKA> still
[08:27] <NICKA> same thing firefox is running
[08:27] <NICKA> close serice or restart
[08:27] <NICKA> which neither work
[08:27] <NICKA> i cant install the old firefox again because it says i cant over write a file
[08:28] <un_operateur> NICKA, errm, what does this command return -- ps aux | grep -i firefox
[08:28] <NICKA> manny     7312  0.0  0.1   2880   840 pts/0    S+   02:28   0:00 grep -i firefox
[08:28] <kraut> moin
[08:29] <un_operateur> NICKA, errm -- ok, do this command as-is and report what happens  -- killall firefox-bin; firefox
[08:29] <phr34ck> is there an alternative for Dreamweaver for Ubuntu ?
[08:30] <tuxn8r> phr34ck, NVU, Bluefish
[08:30] <Madpilot> phr34ck, nvu, or learn to write HTML/CSS & use Bluefish or Screem
[08:30] <NICKA> prompt says no process killed
[08:30] <NICKA> and then a box comes up asking me to close firefox
[08:30] <tuxn8r> phr34ck, eclipse
[08:30] <phr34ck> Madpilot, I know HTML/CSS, I just need something that colors the tag, and launches in a browser "for previews"
[08:31] <tuxn8r> phr34ck, you then absolutely want eclipse
[08:31] <Madpilot> phr34ck, Screem, then. Bluefish is nice too, but Screem has a few nicer features.
[08:31] <un_operateur> NICKA, ok .. try removing your firefox profile and starting again -- mv ~/.mozilla/firefox ~/.mozilla/firefox.bak; firefox
[08:31] <phr34ck> Bluefish preview button is not working, I don't know why. and eclipse is just ... *Sighs* way too slow.
[08:31] <bene> muzta na kyo
[08:31] <bene> KUPAL
[08:31] <phr34ck> Madpilot, and how do I get it back ?
[08:32] <Madpilot> phr34ck, not sure, I haven't managed to break Bluefish yet - I'm sure I will!
[08:32] <phr34ck> Madpilot, okay thanks.
[08:32] <phr34ck> I might try Screem, it "sounds" good.
[08:32] <Madpilot> phr34ck, the easy hack might be to just remove .bluefish, that will reset the whole thing to default settings
[08:32] <NICKA> same thing
[08:32] <NICKA> says close firefox
[08:33] <maxamillion> when running Xubuntu, i installed network-manager-gnome because i read to do so in a tutorial because it apparently is capable of handling my bcm4318 wifi card under ndiswrapper ... now, the card functions via iwconfig but when i run "gksudo NetworkManager" i give it my password, then nothing happens and i added nm-applet to my panel but it says there are no network devices found ... any thoughts?
[08:33] <rioghal> Madpilot, On Dapper, the desktop cd is a livecd and the alternate and server cd's aren't. Has that changed in Edgy?
[08:33] <Madpilot> rioghal, don't think so, no.
[08:33] <rioghal> Madpilot, ok, thanks
[08:33] <un_operateur> NICKA, errm sorry sorry -- i forgot firefox needs to force killed -- killall -9 firefox-bin; firefox
[08:34] <NICKA> same thing
[08:34] <NICKA> close firefox
[08:34] <NICKA> :(
[08:34] <un_operateur> damn
[08:35] <NICKA> its not letting me mess with files m permissions are messed up
[08:35] <NICKA> i forgot how to creat an root account to log in and fix it
[08:35] <un_operateur> NICKA, errm, maybe reinstalling firefox helps -- sudo sh -c "aptitude purge firefox mozilla-firefox; aptitude install firefox"
[08:36] <un_operateur> NICKA, sudo -i  should give you a superuser shell
[08:36] <NICKA> what aout gui
[08:36] <Amaranth> un_operateur: removing firefox will remove most of the desktop
[08:36] <NICKA> eh
[08:36] <EnsignRedshirt> NICKA: Did the "mv ..." command that un_operateur gave before work?  That is, did it really rename the file?
[08:36] <metres> Little question : which IRC client do you use : i dont like gaim that much...
[08:36] <un_operateur> Amaranth, eh? I've never come across that happening
[08:37] <NICKA> none of the cmd work
[08:37] <Amaranth> un_operateur: you use kubuntu?
[08:37] <NICKA> they all asked toclose firefox
[08:37] <un_operateur> NICKA, for a GUI -- gksudo nautilus --no-desktop --browser
[08:37] <EnsignRedshirt> NICKA: What does this show: ls -l .mozilla
[08:38] <un_operateur> Amaranth, no, i use something between ubuntu and fluxbuntu
[08:38] <noobcook> un_operateur: is there any 3d aps i can try to test if my driver workd
[08:38] <Amaranth> un_operateur: gnome-app-install, yelp, and openoffice.org depend on firefox
[08:38] <NICKA> root@BlackFriday:~# ls -l .mozilla
[08:38] <NICKA> total 8
[08:38] <NICKA> drwx------ 3 root root 4096 Jan  9 21:51 firefox
[08:38] <NICKA> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  530 Jan 10 21:58 mozver.dat
[08:38] <un_operateur> !paste | NICKA
[08:38] <ubotu> NICKA: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[08:38] <NICKA> oh sorr
[08:38] <rioghal> mozver.dat ?
[08:38] <NICKA> ahh
[08:38] <NICKA> browser dont work
[08:38] <Amaranth> NICKA: you've run firefox as root, why?
[08:38] <EnsignRedshirt> firefox should in your .mozilla directory should not be owned by root!
[08:39] <EnsignRedshirt> s/should in/in/
[08:39] <NICKA> man my system is hosed
[08:39] <Amaranth> EnsignRedshirt: he is in /root/
[08:39] <Amaranth> not /home/<user>/
[08:39] <NICKA> all because of lame firefox
[08:39] <un_operateur> Amaranth, errm, actually you make a point -- but they dont depend on firefox, they depend on a browser -- but aptitude can suggest a strategy to resolve those depends when purging firefox
[08:39] <Amaranth> un_operateur: no, they depend on firefox
[08:39] <NICKA> im not sure
[08:39] <EnsignRedshirt> Amaranth: Ah, I didn't notice that.
[08:39] <Amaranth> un_operateur: for gecko
[08:39] <NICKA> i was just trying to fix this
[08:39] <Amaranth> NICKA: what is your username?
[08:40] <NICKA> i followed a tut on getting new firefox 2 to run over oldone
[08:40] <NICKA> manny
[08:40] <Amaranth> oh, crap
[08:40] <rioghal> He's also logged in as root
[08:40] <Amaranth> reinstall ubuntu
[08:40] <NICKA> ;sdofijsaf
[08:40] <Amaranth> you trash firefox you trash the system
[08:40] <NICKA> yea
[08:40] <NICKA> another lesson learned
[08:40] <NICKA> lol
[08:40] <NICKA> oh and while im here do any of you guys know how to replace the system emblem
[08:41] <NICKA> in the left corner of the tool bar. i did wha thte forum said and it just doesnt work
[08:41] <un_operateur> NICKA, force uninstall firefox and reinstall it, but this time use the firefox 2 package you installed manually
[08:41] <NICKA> i think my problem is
[08:41] <NICKA> i never installed fire fox 2 correctly
[08:41] <NICKA> is there a repo that will just auto install it
[08:41] <Amaranth> NICKA: If you install edgy it has an officially branded firefox
[08:41] <Amaranth> with the icon and such
[08:42] <Amaranth> and it has 2.0
[08:42] <NICKA> really
[08:42] <NICKA> well i will give edgy a try again
[08:42] <NICKA> before it didnt like my system
[08:42] <NICKA> ill try again though
[08:42] <silya> Hi all! How to automatically kill some process, for example bad pppd session?
[08:43] <un_operateur> NICKA, the way i did it was to remove firefox and use the binaries that mozilla provides -- but you still need to create a dummy firefox package so that APT is satisfied
[08:43] <NICKA> whats APT
[08:44] <NICKA> im a linux dummy im trying to learn
[08:44] <NICKA> thats why i got this extra laptop
[08:44] <NICKA> to practice on
[08:44] <NICKA> i got everything working on it accept my sound doesnt work with head phones
[08:45] <enyc> un_operateur: coo... how did you create an appropriate dummy package ?
[08:45] <un_operateur> NICKA, apt is debian/ubuntu's package management system
[08:45] <NICKA> oh
[08:45] <NICKA> ok
[08:45] <un_operateur> enyc,  using !equivs
[08:45] <NICKA> but this dapper drake is like hardwareed to firefox
[08:45] <NICKA> which doesnt upgrade to 2.0
[08:46] <un_operateur> NICKA, if you want simplicity why not use something like swiftfox ?
[08:46] <kane77> why does ubuntu always change my default networking device to eth0??? I want it to be ra0...
[08:46] <NICKA> hrm
[08:47] <NICKA> hows that compared to firefox 2
[08:47] <un_operateur> NICKA, that way you can keep firefox and apt satisfied and use "firefox" at 2.0
[08:47] <NICKA> i just want a fast browser that will let me install java and flash
[08:47] <NICKA> huh.. swiftfox is 2.0
[08:47] <rioghal> OMG! I've been in front of this box for 6 hours striahgt
[08:48] <enyc> NICKA: the _package_ for firefox in dapper is 1.5.x and the _package_ for firefox in edgy is 2.x,  at the moment... what will happen with dapper 3-year-desktop-support and firefox is not clear to me ;-)
[08:48] <un_operateur> NICKA, let me see if i can find you a swiftfox package
[08:48] <enyc> !equivs
[08:48] <ubotu> equivs: Circumvent Debian package dependencies. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.0.7 (edgy), package size 18 kB, installed size 128 kB
[08:48] <NICKA> im going to install edgy
[08:48] <NICKA> give that one a nother go
[08:48] <jordo23> Anyone here run a 64 bit version of Ubuntu?
[08:49] <NICKA> hopefully it will see my wifi like dapper does
[08:49] <noobcook> un_operateur: any idea what error msg this is
[08:49] <noobcook> Using /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:49] <noobcook>  Saved back-up to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.fglrx-0
[08:49] <noobcook>  aticonfig: Writing to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' failed. Bad file descripto
[08:49] <kane77> jordo23, i do
[08:49] <Joel_melapaa> jordo23 Me! why?
[08:49] <un_operateur> NICKA,  http://getswiftfox.com/releases.htm
[08:50] <jordo23> kane77 or Joel_melapaa: have you figured out how to make flash work under firefox?
[08:50] <rioghal> hehe, thanks
[08:50] <un_operateur> noobcook, errm, not sure, can you !pastebin the entire output you are seeing there
[08:50] <kane77> jordo23, yes I have... wait a sec...
[08:51] <noobcook> k
[08:51] <kane77> jordo23, do you have 64 bit firefox?
[08:51] <un_operateur> jordo23, i just manually installed the flash 9.x package that adobe provides
[08:51] <qatsi> anyone knows why do i get this error when i run sudo modprobe ndiswrapper: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument
[08:51] <qatsi> (thanx for the help, btw)
[08:51] <un_operateur> qatsi, is ndiswrapper installed??
[08:51] <jordo23> kane77: I have whatever the stock 64 edition FF is...
[08:52] <kane77> jordo23, you'll need to install 32 bit version first
[08:52] <qatsi> un_operateur: yes it is :)...it was working, I updated the system and after reboot it didnt...
[08:52] <tux> hi how can i speed up a process?
[08:52] <enyc> qatsi: you may see an error on the end of 'dmesg' (kernel log)
[08:52] <jordo23> kane77: The problem is that I am trying to make this work for Konq too...is this possible?
[08:52] <tux> is renice only required??
[08:52] <noobcook> un_operateur: http://pastebin.com/856544
[08:53] <jordo23> un_operateur: It's my impression that adobe doesn't provide a 64 bit edition of flash player in linux....is this not correct?
[08:53] <un_operateur> qatsi, check if the file exists -- ls -l /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko
[08:53] <qatsi> un_operateur: ndiswrapper (wrapper_init:136): ndiswrapper: initialization failed
[08:53] <tux>  hi how can i speed up a process? is renice only required??
[08:53] <qatsi> un_operateur: ok, ill check
[08:53] <un_operateur> jordo23, thats correct .. which is why you'll need to run firefox in a 32 bit chroot
[08:53] <enyc> qatsi: I can't help you with ndiswrapper but... i know that module load/argiment problems mean... look on the dmesg (run the 'dmesg' command and look at the end)
[08:53] <kane77> jordo23, don't know much about konqueror...
[08:54] <tux> hi how can i speed up a process? is renice only required??
[08:54] <qatsi> un_operateur: it does exist...
[08:54] <jordo23> un_operateur:  gnash is said to work on both...I installed it, and FF sees it, but I can't get it to play flash movies
[08:54] <un_operateur> qatsi, yep, you probably need to reinstall the !ndiswrapper package
[08:54] <FearMoth> My D-Link WNA-1330 PCMCIA Ethernet card was automatically detected and set up when I installed Ubuntu. Does anyone know how it's set up to work? I'm trying to set up OpenSuSE on another computer and the same card is not working at all.. does it use ndiswrapper?
[08:54] <enyc> jordo23: this _is_ correct (i386 only)
[08:54] <neil_edgy> !samba
[08:54] <qatsi> un_operateur: ok, ill try that, thank you...(ill be doing that)...
[08:54] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:55] <un_operateur> noobcook, errm, aren't you supposed to be running that command under sudo? :)
[08:55] <jordo23> Is it possible to do this chroot to Konq too?
[08:55] <enyc> jordo23: you can do !Debootstrapchroot to get 32bit firefox to run flashplayer in
[08:55] <tux> how can i speed up a process? is renice only required??
[08:55] <jordo23> I think it is.....but I can't get it to work
[08:55] <qatsi> enyc: ive checked that now, and it fails to load ndiswrapper...ill try reinstalling and see what happens
[08:55] <rioghal> I'm gonna have to wimp out in a minute.
[08:55] <tux> hi uboto
[08:55] <enyc> qatsi: good luck,  talk later ;-)
[08:55] <enyc> bye ;-)
[08:55] <qatsi> bye !
[08:55] <corruption> hello can anyone help me with a sudo error not letting me do anything and not letting me edit anything in system files?
[08:55] <jordo23> Can anyone walk me through this?
[08:55] <EnsignRedshirt> tux: I think we all heard the question the first time :)
[08:55] <un_operateur> jordo23, i dunno much about gnash -- personally i'd use the real flash -- but that's just me
[08:55] <noobcook> lol un_operateur ty
[08:56] <un_operateur> !chroot | jordo23
[08:56] <ubotu> jordo23: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[08:56] <tux> EnsignRedshirt, can u help??
[08:56] <jordo23> how do I get 32 bit firefox on my 64 bit system....HELP!!!!! PLEASE!!
[08:56] <EnsignRedshirt> tux: renice will not necessarily "speed up" a process; it will just change its priority.
[08:56] <un_operateur> jordo23, first, build your chroot .. as per that wiki up therre
[08:56] <tux> EnsignRedshirt, den how can i speed up a process?
[08:56] <EnsignRedshirt> tux: Get a faster computer?
[08:57] <corruption>  a sudo error not letting me do anything and not letting me edit anything in system files anyone at all know how to fix?
[08:57] <un_operateur> tux, why are you looking to do that anyway? :)
[08:57] <tux> EnsignRedshirt, if priorities are changed wont it affect the speed ?
[08:58] <un_operateur> corruption, well, whats the error?
[08:58] <EnsignRedshirt> tux: Only if it was competing for CPU time from other processes with the same priority.
[08:58] <tux> un_operateur, ive got to speed up firefox
[08:58] <un_operateur> tux, errm, i think the solution to that is to use a leaner browser :)
[08:59] <tux> un_operateur, is there anyting to suggest ive used dillo
[08:59] <un_operateur> tux, you could try renicing firefox, but that wont make much of a difference -- firefox runs as fast as it can
[08:59] <CajunTech> Hey everyone: this isn't really an ubuntu question but i hope someone will answer it. How many connections do you think an email server running ubuntu with 4gb ram and a 2.4ghz processor could handle?
[08:59] <tux> un_operateur, yah dats right ive tried it
[09:00] <un_operateur> tux, personally, i dont require a fast browser and can't do without the firefox extensions so i stick with firefox -- if i needed a ddecent browser otherwise, i'd choose opera
[09:00] <tux> un_operateur, but is it in ubuntu repository?
[09:01] <un_operateur> tux, galeon worked nicely while i had it -- but it lacked certain support for the firefox entensions
[09:01] <rioghal> Good night everyone, thanks for the company 
[09:01] <un_operateur> tux, it's in the ubuntu commercial repository -- and opera also has an ubuntu repository (google)
[09:01] <EnsignRedshirt> rioghal: 'night
[09:01] <un_operateur> !commercial
[09:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about commercial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:01] <tux> un_operateur, ok thank you
[09:01] <rioghal> !canonical
[09:01] <ubotu> Canonical Ltd. is committed to the development, distribution and promotion of open source software products, and to providing tools and support to the open source community. It is the driving force behind the Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Edubuntu Operating Systems. Canonical's website is at http://www.canonical.com/
[09:02] <burepe> !flash
[09:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:02] <jordo23> un_operateur: once I have downloaded those files, can I copy paste those commands on the wiki?
[09:03] <tux> un_operateur, but is galeon similiar to dillo ? or it is better?
[09:03] <un_operateur> jordo23, i think if you follow the wiki to the word, you should be ok :)
[09:03] <un_operateur> tux, errm, i've not tried dillo - so i can't say
[09:04] <tux> un_operateur, its very light weight... thank you
[09:05] <un_operateur> tux, well, anything apart from firefox feels lightweight -- but they then lack the support and robustness of firefox -- but what you are doing is good, i.e. experimenting
[09:06] <jordo23> un_operateur: is dchroot.conf initially blank when you add the line to it?
[09:07] <noobcook> !ati
[09:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:07] <un_operateur> jordo23, errm, i'm not sure, and i dont think it should be -- what does the wiki say you should do?
[09:08] <jordo23> un_operateur: I am at the last line of Installing and Configuring Dchroot where it says append this line in /etc/dchroot.conf....when I execute sudo editor /etc/dchroot.conf the file comes up in Pico blank
[09:09] <un_operateur> jordo23, well, to be safe, run this command before editing dchroot.conf -- sudo dpkg-reconfigure --priority low dchroot
[09:10] <jordo23> un_operateur: Okay ran it.....when browsing /etc I dont see a file named dchroot.conf though...
[09:10] <un_operateur> jordo23, it should be ok to continue on with the blank file (but double check if you have the right file)
[09:11] <Tmob> i get a blank screen on my laptop once i switch its output to CRT/LCD
[09:11] <un_operateur> jordo23, yep, i'd continue on
[09:11] <jordo23> un_operateur: I just copied and pasted the edit command from the wiki....proceed?
[09:11] <jordo23> okay
[09:11] <un_operateur> yep
[09:11] <Tmob> anyone know how to fix this? i'm guessing the card isn't outputing properly on the right port
[09:11] <Tmob> somehow ubuntu doesn't seem to set it back to the right settings when you switch to VGA mode
[09:11] <un_operateur> !xinerama
[09:11] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[09:13] <jordo23> un_operateur: what is a chroot anyways technically?
[09:15] <kane77> jordo23, changes root to a specified directory...
[09:15] <un_operateur> jordo23, basically it's a way to enter an environment where the root (i.e. /) is changed .. so if you chroot to a directory like /home/chroot .. within that environment / points to that directory .. so it's a secure operating partition where apps within the chroot cannot normally access other parts of the filesystem
[09:15] <jordo23> kane77: what will this do to my system?
[09:16] <linux1> ubuntu 6.10 has got to be one of the worst versions ive seen out of ubuntu
[09:16] <jordo23> un_operateur: kind of like a barrier....will this effect anything else in the operating system?
[09:17] <un_operateur> jordo23, within the context of your system -- a 32 bit chroot allows 32 bit applications to operate in a container where all the dependencies and libraries are 32 bit too, that way they arent affected by the parent 64 bit environement which could ruin things for the 32 bit ones
[09:18] <jordo23> un_operateur: In non tech terms this will not effect other apps or normal admin functions right...
[09:18] <un_operateur> jordo23, it's a barrier yes, i'd use the word container tho and no, it doesnt affect any other part of your system .. not at all
[09:18] <EnsignRedshirt> Caio, y'all.
[09:19] <un_operateur> jordo23, nope, the only thing it'll affect is the usage on resources (which you'd expect normally too)
[09:19] <jordo23> un_operateur: seems to be installing fine....back in a min...
[09:19] <un_operateur> ok
[09:19] <tux> is there any compatiblity problems associated with sources.list, ive installed xubuntu desktop over ubuntu and im getting errors while trying to apt-get
[09:21] <Jordan_U> How can I play videos using hardware overlay in Ubuntu?
[09:22] <un_operateur> tux, normally, mixing sources.list is not recommended .. you should either enable the ubuntu repos and disable the xubuntu ones or vice-versa
[09:22] <un_operateur> mixing sources in sources.list*
[09:22] <Jordan_U> There is a seperate sources.list for xubuntu?
[09:23] <un_operateur> Jordan_U, there are seperate repositories for xubuntu .. and they are enabled/disabled in the same sources.list
[09:23] <Jordan_U> tux: AFIK there should be no problem
[09:24] <Flannel> un_operateur, Jordan_U, no, there aren't separate repositories for xubuntu.
[09:24] <noiesmo> tux, pastebin the error you get from apt-get
[09:24] <noiesmo> !pastebin | tux
[09:24] <ubotu> tux: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:24] <tux> noiesmo, ill do it
[09:24] <un_operateur> Flannel, if i were to be strict, i'd say there are different package lists for xubuntu .. does that make better sense? :)
[09:25] <Flannel> un_operateur: there's mirrors that happen to have xubuntu in the URL, but no.  All four flavors use the same repositories
[09:26] <tux> !thanks | noiesmo
[09:26] <ubotu> noiesmo: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[09:26] <un_operateur> Flannel, yep, (x|k|ed)ubuntu use the same package repositories  but different package lists, right?
[09:27] <Jordan_U> un_operateur: You mean different dependencies in the metapackages?
[09:27] <Flannel> un_operateur: no, identical lists.  They all have the same packages.  The default repository mirror may be different (on a different computer, whatever).
[09:27] <jordo23> un_operateur: WOW.....in the middle of updating chroot xwindows crashed.....do you have the wiki link again?
[09:27] <iain> Is there a way to know what package a certain file is associate with?
[09:27] <Jordan_U> iain: Yes.
[09:28] <iain> Jordan_U: How?
[09:28] <fokuslee> quick question if i want to mount something and set the user of that mount to myself not the root what should the uid= in fstab?
[09:28] <un_operateur> !chroot | jordo23
[09:28] <ubotu> jordo23: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[09:31] <clayg> anyone else experiencing G/XDM crashing when trying to install beryl?
[09:31] <fokuslee> clayg yes
[09:31] <fokuslee> i have
[09:31] <un_operateur> Jordan_U, n/m .. i stand corrected .. they all use the same repos, same package lists but different package sets as defined in the metapackages (as you said)
[09:31] <Flannel> clayg: #ubuntu-xgl is the place for beryl support
[09:31] <fokuslee> clayg get the deb from trevinos SVN it works
[09:32] <fokuslee> anyways how do i change the owner of a fat32 paritition if chown doesn't work?
[09:32] <un_operateur> iain, maybe this -- dpkg -S /path/to/file
[09:32] <clayg> I followed the guide that ubotu gamme
[09:32] <clayg> had to edit xorg.conf and install a few diff things
[09:33] <Jordan_U> Sorry, Who asked about apt and files having to do with packages?
[09:33] <fokuslee> clayg follow the guide from beryl wiki itz better
[09:33] <un_operateur> Jordan_U, that would be iain
[09:33] <clayg> lol
[09:34] <clayg> this is weird
[09:34] <iain> un_operateur: thx
[09:34] <clayg> after is crashed i went in and just restored the old xorg.conf
[09:34] <clayg> and rebooted
[09:34] <clayg> i never took out beryl
[09:34] <un_operateur> iain, does it work?
[09:34] <clayg> anyhow i just got back into gnome and tryied to run beryl-manager and it works
[09:34] <Jordan_U> iain: install apt-file, you can use it to search similar to the way apt-cache works
[09:34] <clayg> it loads at least and gives me options
[09:34] <clayg> what is a feature it can do, so i can test to see if it work
[09:34] <clayg> if it does, it looks like the only thing you really have ot do is just install the package!
[09:34] <un_operateur> Jordan_U, errm, dpkg -S should suffice
[09:35] <iain> Jordan_U: I don't know what apt-file or apt-cache are ;-)
[09:35] <ademan> how can you list all of the running proccesses from the command line?
[09:35] <clayg> fokuslee, can you tell me something to try to make sure it's wookring
[09:35] <clayg> ademan, either top or ps -aux
[09:35] <clayg> only two ways i know
[09:35] <Jordan_U> un_operateur: Ok, nvm then :)
[09:36] <fokuslee> clayg wut card do u have?
[09:36] <ademan> clayg: thanks
[09:36] <fokuslee> clayg i can't tell u too much cuz im a newb myself i can only tell u where to go for good guide
[09:36] <Jordan_U> iain: like un_operateur said, you can use the command: dpkg -S <file name>
[09:37] <iain> Jordan_U: OK
[09:38] <un_operateur> Jordan_U, i'd use apt-file to know which package houses a non-existant file tho .. dpkg -S doesn't know about non-installed packages ( i think )
[09:38] <nikin> i am using synergy to control my 2 computers on my desk, is there a way to that lets me move a window from one X server to another?
[09:38] <clayg> fokuslee, ummm it's a nforce go 7400, it's on my notebook ; a hp dv6000t, has 256
[09:38] <clayg> ram
[09:39] <clayg> ademan, np bro
[09:39] <clayg> fokuslee, do you have it installed?
[09:39] <Schalken> whats the difference between unmounting and ejecting a device?
[09:40] <un_operateur> Schalken, the latter unmounts and ejects removable media .. like CD-Roms
[09:40] <fokuslee> clayg yeah i have beryl svn from the trevinos repo, i have 7600gt sli so i think we should use the same guide
[09:40] <fokuslee> hold on
[09:40] <nikin> schalken: depends on what device
[09:40] <jordo23> un_operateur: what do I do if I want to delete this chroot?
[09:40] <Vigo> Greetings
[09:40] <clayg> fokuslee, awsome, give me an example of what you do with it
[09:40] <jordo23> un_operateur: or uninstall it, or erase it. or whatever
[09:41] <clayg> fokuslee, doesn't have to be anything special, maybe an effect tyou have turned on
[09:41] <nikin> if its a cdrom , then after unmountuing it autmaticaly opens the drive
[09:41] <clayg> something i can check qucikly and see if it's working
[09:41] <un_operateur> jordo23, quite simply you can just delete the directory holding the chroot -- e.g. if you chose /var/chroot as the chroot, you can delete that directory -- but you must also make sure nothing points to that location afterwards .. like for e.g. /etc/dhcroot.conf and the like
[09:41] <fokuslee> ctrl super and move ur mouse
[09:41] <Zoffix> Hi, I've installed Azureus BitTorrent client on Ubuntu Edgy and it crashes when I try to run it. I get this output in the console: http://pastebin.ca/312864 I do not understand any of this, however I see a line: `I/O Exception while downloading 'http://192.168.0.1:5678/igd.xml` Is that a problem with "JRE"? Any help will be greately appreciated.
[09:42] <phr34ck> how can I modify the boot process? It's a bit slow and I want to remove some stuff, like bluetooth thingie and the like.
[09:42] <Jordan_U> Can I use Hardware Overlay in mplayer ( or any other player ) ?
[09:42] <fokuslee> clayg:  ctrl super and move ur mouse
[09:42] <Zoffix> I've used `Synaptic Package Manager`
[09:42] <un_operateur> jordo23, the simplest way is probably to purge-remove dchroot (via aptitude purge dchroot) and delete the directory
[09:42] <jordo23> un_operateur: I think I got gnash working under 64 bit FF.....how can I find which plugin file its pulling from and location to test in konq...
[09:43] <fokuslee> clayg: here is a list of default commands http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Tips/Default_Commands
[09:43] <un_operateur> jordo23, in firefox .. about:plugins (i think)
[09:43] <clayg> super is that the windows button?
[09:43] <Jordan_U> clayg: Yes
[09:43] <clayg> ok, im gonna use the guide you just gave me
[09:44] <clayg> it's the samer one man
[09:44] <clayg> i foloowed everything
[09:44] <clayg> one package wasn't available
[09:44] <clayg> you use aiglx or the pother?
[09:44] <fokuslee> clayg: the nividia kenrel?
[09:44] <fokuslee> Clayg:  i use aiglx
[09:45] <clayg> that is the one that i went with
[09:45] <fokuslee> clayg which package is it complainin?
[09:45] <un_operateur> jordo23, ahh, sorry, if you want knoqueror to use the same plugins, it should be safe to copy the /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/* over into the konqueror plugins directory (perhaps that is /usr/lib/knoqueror/plugins/)
[09:45] <clayg> nah this package :      linux-dri-modules-common
[09:45] <clayg> wait scratch that
[09:45] <clayg> hmmmm lemme run the whole line again
[09:46] <clayg> which is sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-air-core linux-dri-modules-common linux-dri-modules-`uname -r`
[09:46] <fokuslee> clayg: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_nVidia read the part where it says if problem occurs
[09:46] <clayg> E: Couldn't find package linux-dri-modules-2.6.15-27-686
[09:46] <fokuslee> i think it will help u
[09:46] <clayg> ok that's it, its that kernel...i think you mentioned that huh?
[09:46] <fokuslee> no thats not
[09:47] <un_operateur> clayg, dd you mean linux-restricted-modules instead .. i can't seem to find that package either
[09:47] <fokuslee> clayg looks like u need the dri module b/c of ur graphic card i didn't have to use it can u install it from some other repo?
[09:47] <clayg> what repos?
[09:47] <clayg> lemme run it through google maybe i'll get lucky
[09:47] <fokuslee> !repository
[09:48] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:48] <clayg> maybe there isn't one available?
[09:48] <clayg> i wonder if i can just use a regular package
[09:48] <clayg> fokuslee can you uname -a for me?
[09:48] <clayg> or even -r
[09:48] <fokuslee> yeah hold on
[09:49] <Q_Continuum> 1) Is the us.archive.ubuntu server running slow, and 2) is it worthwhile/relatively easy to switch to a local mirror? (umn.edu in my case)
[09:49] <fokuslee> Linux fokuslee-ubuntu 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 21:16:35 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:49] <fokuslee> Clayg above
[09:49] <un_operateur> Q_Continuum, you should be able to just rename the mirrors in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:49] <clayg> http://www.google.com/search?q=linux-dri-modules-2.6.15-27&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=Swiftfox:en-US:unofficial
[09:49] <clayg> looks like this is a problem that has happened before
[09:49] <fokuslee> clayg:  u name -a only gives the kernel version not the dri module version
[09:50] <Q_Continuum> un_operateur, thanks.
[09:50] <clayg> fokuslee, can you just uname -r
[09:50] <clayg> i know, but just for the heck of it please
[09:50] <fokuslee> clayg: 2.6.17-10-generic
[09:50] <ademan> hey does Xorg store settings per mouse?  I have a ps/2 mouse that randomly stopped working, and i tried a USB mouse and it worked perfectly.  Is this POSSIBLY Xorg's fault in such a way i could fix it?  It seems like hardware, but i don't really want to toss out a mouse if i don't have to
[09:50] <clayg> nice
[09:50] <clayg> thanks
[09:50] <un_operateur> Q_Continuum, this ought to work -- sudo perl -i.bak -pe 's/\bus\,/uk./g' /etc/apt/sources.list  (make backup first)
[09:51] <un_operateur> Q_Continuum, make that -- sudo perl -i.bak -pe 's/\bus\./uk./g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:51] <lotacus> anyone here have a solution to the "beryl caught a deadly signal 11" error?
[09:51] <fokuslee> soo anyways can anyone help me with my chown problem?
[09:52] <un_operateur> fokuslee, what is the chown problem?
[09:53] <fokuslee> i can't chown /media/sda3 (which is a fat32 partition i mounted)
[09:53] <fokuslee> the current owner is root i need to change it to fokuslee myself
[09:54] <clayg> fokuslee, did you have to edit xorg.conf at all?
[09:54] <fokuslee> clayg yeah i did
[09:54] <un_operateur> fokuslee, errm, it's just a guess .. FATxx has no way of keeping tabs on permissions and ownership of contained files , so it's not possible to do that
[09:54] <fokuslee> clayg i ran the nvidia-xconfig stuff first
[09:54] <clayg> im running dapper
[09:54] <clayg> hmm i dont think i saw that lemme reread the guide
[09:55] <fokuslee> un_operator i guess that could be it
[09:55] <fokuslee> damn
[09:55] <un_operateur> fokuslee, did you try chowning a file or two on the partition ? if so, what failed?
[09:55] <fokuslee> un_operateur:  no i tried to chown the whole partition
[09:55] <fokuslee> i also did mount -o remount,user=fokuslee /dev/sda3 still fail lol
[09:56] <clayg> hey on a seperate note, how hard is it to move your grub/boot partition over to a fat16//32 partition
[09:56] <clayg> ?
[09:56] <un_operateur> fokuslee, ok, failed means what ? :p what specific error did you get?
[09:56] <fokuslee> un_operateur:  i had to do it b/c bitornado is not happy with root owning the partition it won't write to it
[09:56] <phr34ck> how can I modify the boot process? It's a bit slow and I want to remove some stuff, like bluetooth thingie and the like.
[09:56] <fokuslee> un_operateur i get operation not permitted
[09:57] <fokuslee> un_operateur:  but dmesg grep panic showed nothing
[09:58] <fokuslee> un_operateur i wonder if i put user,exec,suid, into fstab maybe dat will help
[09:58] <un_operateur> phr34ck, you could use /usr/sbin/sysv-rc-conf (from package sysv-rc-conf) to enable/disable services you need/don't need
[09:58] <fokuslee> also maybe change mount point to my home folder?
[09:58] <fokuslee> un_operateur:  just ideas don't no if will wokr
[09:58] <phr34ck> un_operateur, thanks will try it
[09:58] <un_operateur> fokuslee, errm, why dont you try these manually with mount at the command line first
[09:59] <fokuslee> un_operateur ok  i will give this a go bbl
[09:59] <un_operateur> fokuslee, IIRC, if you set the permissions on the mount point .. the partition is also affected (in the case of FATxx) .. so you could try setting permissions on the mount point
[10:00] <fokuslee> un_operateur so u want me to change /dev/sda3?? b/c chown did not work on /media/sda3
[10:01] <fokuslee> oh u mean chmod 777?
[10:01] <mobal> hi'
[10:01] <mobal> everyon can help
[10:02] <mobal> how can i enable speedstep (intel core duo t5500)
[10:03] <clayg> fokuslee, how do you start beryl? do you beryl or use beryl-manager?
[10:03] <fokuslee> clayg type beryl-manager
[10:03] <fokuslee> clayg use the manager so u can play around with all the settings
[10:04] <clayg> im trying to , but i need to get back in and edit xorg.conf
[10:04] <clayg> im almost tempted to isntall edgy, how stable is it now? i remember 6-7 months ago it seemed alot slower on my notebook<dual core>
[10:06] <gnomefreak> clayg: its stable. (as in released) some people have complaints about it not working with thier hardware though
[10:06] <fokuslee> clayg im using edgy itz ok fast,  but pretty
[10:06] <clayg> this is the error in my log file (WW) The directory "/usr/share/X11/fonts/cyrillic" does not exist.
[10:06] <fokuslee> i used dapper before it feels the same
[10:07] <fokuslee> clayg u can install extra fonts
[10:07] <clayg> that is what caused it i think
[10:07] <fokuslee> its in the offical documenation don't no which one thou
[10:08] <gnomefreak> clayg: that warning wont really cause anything
[10:08] <fokuslee> uhhh i doubt it but u can try doesn't beryl already install like two fonts it needs ?
[10:08] <un_operateur> clayg, you probably need the xfonts-cyrillic installed (verify)
[10:08] <clayg> i didn't think so but i erased the line outta xorg.conf and rebooted
[10:11] <soujiro> is there any program like "dyndns" for ubuntu ? i got dhcp from isp.
[10:11] <clayg> wait, here it is "module nvidia does not exist
[10:11] <clayg> i wonder how i get it, or if i should erase the reference to it
[10:11] <gnomefreak> clayg: install the linux-restricted-modules package for your kernel
[10:11] <clayg> they aren't available
[10:11] <gnomefreak> clayg: sure they are. ;)
[10:12] <clayg> i dont know how to find them
[10:12] <clayg> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-air-core linux-dri-modules-common linux-dri-modules-`uname -r`
[10:12] <gnomefreak> open synaptic
[10:12] <clayg> you mean the last package from that line?
[10:12] <clayg> opening....
[10:12] <gnomefreak> no
[10:12] <n3storm> Hi everyone
[10:12] <clayg> ok it's open gnomefreak
[10:12] <gnomefreak> once open click search and type linux-restricted-modules
[10:13] <un_operateur> soujiro, sure .. IIRC dyndns have their own client for linux
[10:13] <gnomefreak> than hit enter and find the ones for your kernel
[10:13] <soujiro> ok
[10:13] <clayg> gnomefreak, i did, i see a few, this is a intel core 2 duo 2.0
[10:13] <clayg> gnomefreak, i don't see one that is close, what would you suggest?
[10:14] <gnomefreak> clayg: what kernel are you on. uname -a should help
[10:14] <clayg> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-air-core linux-dri-modules-common linux-dri-modules-`uname -r`
[10:14] <clayg> from -r it's .15.27
[10:14] <clayg> 2.6.15-27-686
[10:14] <clayg> ill try to match by that
[10:14] <magez_> why the text in  the amsn is lookin so bad, why they dont make it look better...
[10:14] <clayg> hmmm closest is 15.25
[10:15] <clayg> think that will work?
[10:15] <un_operateur> magez_, welcome to linux :)
[10:15] <n3storm> magez_ there is a way to use xft to see nice fonts in amsn
[10:15] <gnomefreak> clayg: yes
[10:15] <n3storm> check at google
[10:15] <clayg> it's already installed
[10:15] <gnomefreak> clayg: are these drivers from the repos?
[10:15] <clayg> yeah
[10:15] <magez_> !xtf
[10:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xtf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:16] <gnomefreak> clayg: apt-cache policy nvidia-glx
[10:16] <clayg> im looking in my xorg.conf for the reference that is causing the error
[10:16] <n3storm> !xttf
[10:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xttf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:16] <gnomefreak> clayg: have you ever installed the ones from nvidia.com?
[10:16] <n3storm> magez_: wait, I'll told you
[10:16] <clayg> pasting
[10:16] <clayg> dont think so
[10:16] <un_operateur> gnomefreak, clayg .. i dont seem to find any packages name linux-dri.*
[10:16] <fokuslee> un_operateur:  u r sooo rite fatxx keeps no tabs on permissions and ownership of contained files
[10:16] <magez_> !xft
[10:16] <gnomefreak> un_operateur: there isnt
[10:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xft - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:16] <gnomefreak> un_operateur: its part of the l-r-m
[10:16] <clayg> http://pastebin.ca/312879
[10:17] <fokuslee> un_operator therefore its not possible to change own at all guess i can't dl torrents then grrrrr
[10:17] <un_operateur> gnomefreak, so, why is he installing packages named like that then?
[10:17] <n3storm> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=216689
[10:17] <magez_> well, maybe google help me out
[10:17] <gnomefreak> clayg: you want nvidia to work you need to install the drivers
[10:17] <n3storm> magez_: maybe?, :)
[10:18] <un_operateur> fokuslee, errm, i think you might be able to fool bittorrent if you create symlinks to directories in the FAT paritions and use the symlinks instead
[10:18] <fabio__|> is there a simple config tool to setup local-ip, netmask, gateway, dns from command-line? thanks
[10:18] <gnomefreak> un_operateur: he cant find them. hes been trying that for 3-4 days now. i have no clue why he didnt listen to me days ago
[10:18] <un_operateur> gnomefreak, he didnt listen to me earlier either
[10:18] <gnomefreak> clayg: <hint> install nvidia-glx if you want nvidia to work
[10:18] <clayg> gnomefreak, ok , how ? is there a repo i need to add?
[10:18] <gnomefreak> clayg: do you have multiverse and universe repos enabled?
[10:19] <clayg> yeah gnomefreak i thought aiglx was better, my bad
[10:19] <clayg> gnomefreak, i am trying that suggestion now (first time hearing it)
[10:19] <clayg> hope it works
[10:19] <gnomefreak> aiglx has nothing to do with nvidia
[10:19] <clayg> k, got it installed, should be good to go huh?
[10:19] <gnomefreak> nvidia-glx is not xgl
[10:20] <Jordan_U> A user that used to be able to run GUI apps no longer can, when I try and open a GUI app I get the error:
[10:20] <Jordan_U> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[10:20] <Jordan_U> Xlib: No protocol specified
[10:20] <gnomefreak> clayg: make sure you have nvidia in the drivers section in xorg.conf
[10:20] <un_operateur> . o 0 ( why not just install l-r-m ?? )
[10:20] <infoomatic|work> reeee
[10:20] <fokuslee> un_operateur ommmmmmmmg u are soo brilliant i never thought it like dat
[10:20] <un_operateur> fokuslee, whats that then?
[10:20] <fabio__|> which is the command-line tool to setup the network interfce parameters?
[10:20] <clayg> got it, looks like we are in business at least as far as gnome/x working
[10:20] <n3storm> there seems to be a problem with python2.5 packages
[10:20] <clayg> i need to test to see if beryl works now
[10:20] <fokuslee> un_operateur the symlink omg i can almost reach over and hug u
[10:20] <gnomefreak> clayg: did you install it?
[10:20] <fokuslee> un_operateur:  ok thats pretty gay but smart thinking
[10:20] <fokuslee> : )
[10:20] <gnomefreak> wait your on dapper?
[10:21] <clayg> um yteah
[10:21] <un_operateur> fokuslee, lol, a simple thank you will do, tyvm :)
[10:21] <gnomefreak> clayg: good luck
[10:21] <soujiro> "GBINDADMIN" = is that like dyndns client updater ?
[10:21] <gnomefreak> clayg: not many people have it running on dapper well at all
[10:21] <clayg> i type beryl-manager, it showed the nvidia logo and put me back at the login
[10:21] <clayg> lol
[10:21] <clayg> k
[10:21] <gnomefreak> clayg: its crashing
[10:21] <un_operateur> soujiro, errm, IIRC debian and ubuntu have a package named dyndns-client -- so you can install that instead
[10:22] <clayg> does beryl have to be sudo'd?
[10:22] <gnomefreak> clayg: dont hold me to this but i think you need xgl and beryl to get beryl to work. your better off asking in #ubuntu-xgl
[10:22] <Jordan_U> clayg: no
[10:22] <gnomefreak> clayg: no never
[10:22] <clayg> ok i got the beryl setting smanager up
[10:22] <Jordan_U> clayg: It is easier to set Beryl up on Edgy
[10:22] <clayg> lemme try something
[10:23] <soujiro> un_operateur ok thnx. but i only find ddclient
[10:23] <jordo23> un_operateur: still there?
[10:23] <un_operateur> yep and yep :)
[10:23] <Jordan_U> clayg: If you don't have AIGLX or XGL installed beryl won't run
[10:23] <clayg> yeah how do you test that Jordan_U
[10:23] <un_operateur> soujiro, in my opinion, i find ddclient the best as it's simple to setup and easy to have a cron-job working
[10:24] <jordo23> un_operateur: I did all the instructions and should have a simple chroot setup...
[10:24] <Jordan_U> clayg: Have you done anything to install AIGLX or XGL? If you had you would know.
[10:24] <Jowi> gnomefreak, i got it running on dapper
[10:24] <Jowi> :)
[10:24] <un_operateur> jordo23, did gnash not work then afterall?
[10:25] <jordo23> un_operateur: how do I start 32 bit konqueror from the chroot?
[10:25] <Jowi> clayg, gnomefreak http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/
[10:25] <clayg> Jordan_U, I have but I was wondering if you knew of a way to verify if it was installed/running
[10:26] <Jordan_U> clayg: XGL or AIGLX?
[10:26] <gnomefreak> Jowi: i didnt say it was not able to be done
[10:26] <clayg> AIGLX
[10:26] <gnomefreak> clayg: on dapoper you dont have aiglx
[10:26] <clayg> lol, surely if you know how to verify one the other is the same
[10:26] <clayg> gotcha
[10:26] <jordo23> un_operateur: I have gnash working in FF but not in Konq...
[10:26] <un_operateur> jordo23, errm, wait -- first lets explore if gnash works? does it work ok on 64 bit firefox?
[10:26] <Jordan_U> gnomefreak: He said he installed it, or tried to
[10:26] <jordo23> un_operateur: yes....finally
[10:26] <gnomefreak> Jordan_U: it wont run on dapper
[10:27] <Jordan_U> gnomefreak: Yes, it will.
[10:27] <gnomefreak> Jordan_U: you cant install it nor compile it without compiling all xorg packages
[10:27] <jordo23> un_operateur: and I tested it on several flash test sites....oddly though adobe.com does not work... ;)
[10:27] <Jowi> clayg, did you modify /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf-custom?
[10:27] <un_operateur> jordo23, ok, can you verify if konqueror has a plugins directory -- i dont use knoq so bear with me -- i think - ls -l /usr/lib/knoqueror
[10:27] <gnomefreak> and its a bit shakey than too
[10:27] <clayg> Jowi, yes
[10:27] <Jowi> gnomefreak, there are repos for aiglx
[10:27] <Jordan_U> gnomefreak: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Dapper_with_AIGLX
[10:27] <clayg> I followed this http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Dapper_with_AIGLX
[10:28] <un_operateur> jordo23, ha ha, dont expect adobe to be pleased you visiting them to test gnash out =))
[10:28] <fokuslee> un_operateur damn it didn't work i thought u had it there bittornado is just too smarttt
[10:28] <Jordan_U> gnomefreak: I have been using AIGLX since before Edgy was released
[10:28] <gnomefreak> ah i see what they did
[10:28] <fokuslee> un_operateur:  is there anything special i need to do with ln since itz across two diff file system?
[10:28] <clayg> Jordan_U, apt-cache policy nvidia-glx
[10:28] <clayg> try that
[10:28] <Jowi> clayg, if you got a gdm login screen when you restarted then you are running aiglx. did you also set up aiglx in xorg.conf?
[10:28] <jordo23> un_operateur: In konqueror you can point to any plugins dir.....it says it sees the file but it wont work...
[10:28] <gnomefreak> those linux-dri packages you are looking for are in the extra repos btw
[10:29] <gnomefreak> hint they rebuild xorg
[10:29] <un_operateur> fokuslee, erm, simply ln -s /target /newsymlink
[10:29] <Jowi> clayg, it is the - Option "AIGLX" "true" in the ServerLayout"
[10:29] <fokuslee> un_operateur:  yeah dats wut i did it didn't work
[10:29] <fokuslee> un_operateur:  i thought u had it man stupid bitorando just too smart lol
[10:29] <gkjones_> any idea how to reset or get back to an original Xserver setting please. I played with ATI setings
[10:29] <un_operateur> jordo23, hmm, i've never done this -- so hold on while i get some docs
[10:29] <fokuslee> i wil have to give up my big dls but itz all good
[10:30] <gkjones_> thanks
[10:30] <fokuslee> un_operateur:  thx for ur help thou ^.^V
[10:30] <jordo23> un_operateur:  If I can get this working in Konq I will be thrilled.
[10:30] <clayg> Jowi, yeah
[10:30] <jordo23> un_operateur: works in FF
[10:30] <un_operateur> fokuslee, if i werre you right, i'd have a cache on a normal parition -- and have a cron job copy files across every now and then
[10:30] <clayg> Jowi, I will double check that right now
[10:30] <clayg> to be certain
[10:30] <Jowi> clayg, so you should be running aiglx
[10:31] <Jowi> clayg, gdm would not start if it was wrong in gdm.conf-custom
[10:31] <fokuslee> un_operateur:  yeah good old cron i was gonna dl the 30 gig topgear show lol my linux part is not big enuff lol
[10:31] <un_operateur> jordo23, well, i would try copying the plugins into the original konqueror plugins folder -- you might experience the intended behaviour then
[10:32] <Jowi> clayg, simply right click on the beryl-manager icon in the taskbar and select Beryl as the window manager.
[10:32] <Jordan_U> gkjones_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[10:32] <clayg> Jowi, I do not have AIGLX referenced in there
[10:32] <Moosejaw> i just tried to install kubuntu and now when i login i get a kdestartupconfig error
[10:32] <un_operateur> fokuslee, well, try another decent tornado client then :p
[10:32] <Jowi> clayg, so you need to set it up
[10:32] <fokuslee> un_operateur:  any suggestions?
[10:32] <Jowi> clayg, wait, i post my files for you
[10:32] <jordo23> un_operateur: konq sees libgnashplugin.so I just cant get it to execute...
[10:32] <clayg> weird it should be under sreverlayout
[10:32] <Jordan_U> clayg: The easiest thing to do would be to upgrade to Edgy
[10:32] <un_operateur> fokuslee, errm, sorry, i don't use torrent at all :| :(
[10:33] <clayg> Jowi, what cpu and distro
[10:33] <Jowi> clayg, intel mac mini running dapper
[10:33] <un_operateur> jordo23, hmm, ok, let me go fishing then... bear with me
[10:33] <Jowi> 945GM video
[10:33] <clayg> dont know which mine is
[10:33] <fokuslee> un_operateur:  heh np ur missing out all the good tv shows
[10:33] <clayg> 7400 go nvidia
[10:33] <jordo23> un_operateur: thanks....I really appreciate this help
[10:33] <Jordan_U> clayg: AIGLX is built in by default in Edgy.
[10:34] <un_operateur> fokuslee, I watch top-gear on TV tho :p
[10:34] <fokuslee> un_operateur:  cuzz ur from britan   im stuck in US
[10:34] <clayg> Jordan_U, thanks, but im going to try to get it working under dapper
[10:34] <un_operateur> fokuslee, neener neener :p
[10:34] <Jordan_U> clayg: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Dapper_with_AIGLX
[10:34] <Jowi> clayg, here's the gdm.conf-custom http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1141/ and here's the xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1142/
[10:35] <clayg> yes Jordan_U , again that is the one i used
[10:35] <fokuslee> haha lol thx for all ur help 99 itz 134am here ttyl
[10:35] <clayg> Jowi, awsome, think i can most likely snap those in and restart gdm
[10:35] <n3storm> I need to install scribus-ng and it dependes on python2.5
[10:36] <n3storm> there seems to be a problem with python2.5 in edgy
[10:36] <Jordan_U> clayg: No, his xorg.conf won't work on your machine
[10:36] <Jowi> clayg, no. not the gdm.conf-custom. I have a different theme than you. but you can copy the [servers]  and down
[10:36] <n3storm> I can't find a solution in google :/
[10:36] <n3storm> I mean
[10:36] <n3storm> it seems is only fixed in feisty
[10:37] <warlock> Is there a way to check the bandwidth upload?
[10:37] <Jowi> clayg, and just have a peek at xorg.conf to see where the aiglx setting is supposed to be and type it into your own file
[10:37] <clayg> gotcha Jowi ok got servers down, about to swap tha twith my gdm.conf-custom (thanks by the way)
[10:37] <clayg> Jowi, i did that and fixed it, there was a line missing
[10:37] <magez_> when i tried to install that "make look better ya amsn" package, is says Depency is not satisfiable: tcl8.5
[10:37] <un_operateur> jordo23, ok, let's try this -- enter the chroot and install konqueror there .. then install adobe flash for it, let's see how it goes
[10:38] <n3storm> magez_: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[10:38] <magez_> ( Operating System ) Linux Ubuntu 6.10 - edgy Kernel: 2.6.17-10-386, GNU/Linux | Xorg: 7.1.1 | IRC CLient: X-Chat v.2.6.6
[10:38] <gkjones_> any 1 had great thingts 2 say about upgrading from Edgy to Fiesty beta
[10:38] <jordo23> un_operateur: First....how do I tell if I am in the chroot?
[10:38] <gnomefreak> Jowi: and clayg can you please move this to #ubuntu-xgl
[10:39] <n3storm> magez_: aha, looks like you have to add a couple of repositories?
[10:39] <Jowi> no probs gnomefreak
[10:39] <clayg> Jowi, mine is the same, the gdm-custom
[10:39] <un_operateur> jordo23, i think you have to enter it via  -- dchroot /path/to/chroot
[10:39] <clayg> yeah ill meet you there if it's cool
[10:39] <n3storm> magez_: can you give me again the url you are using?
[10:39] <jordo23> un_operateur: I should be there as my command prompt says root...
[10:39] <clayg> actually, my gf it bitching looks like its contagious
[10:39] <gnomefreak> gkjones_: there is nothing good about it feisty is broken and will be for a week or so dependsing on what part you suffer from
[10:39] <Bhaskar> strong hard disk recovery software for window??
[10:39] <jordo23> un_operateur: what next
[10:39] <Jordan_U> clayg: That guide was written before nvidia had support for AIGLX, what it doesn't tell you is that you also need to install the newest beta nvidia drivers
[10:39] <Jowi> i'm there clayg
[10:40] <clayg> lol, Jowi i really appreciate you spending time to help me, you too gnome freak
[10:40] <gkjones_> so hold off then yes?
[10:40] <clayg> Jordan, where can i get those? google nvidia repo?
[10:40] <magez_> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=216689
[10:40] <nylund> join #ubuntu-se
[10:40] <jordo23> un_operateur: do I install konq simply by apt-get install konqueror?
[10:40] <patrick_> hi, i have what i think is a relatively common problem... i have a laptop, installed clean install of edgy, and i cant get mic or headphones to work... is someone able to help?
[10:40] <un_operateur> jordo23, errm, but please make sure .. once you are sure -- sudo aptitude install konqueror
[10:40] <un_operateur> jordo23, hold on 2 second
[10:40] <clayg> gnomefreak, also i used automatix and it has some nvidia drivers option that i have selected
[10:40] <Jordan_U> clayg: I don't know if there are instructions or repos for installing them on Dapper
[10:41] <jordo23> un_operateur: sudo apt-get install konqueror?
[10:41] <Jordan_U> !automatix | clayg
[10:41] <ubotu> clayg: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:41] <un_operateur> jordo23, one sec, i'm just verofyin
[10:41] <magez_> older tls version maybe?
[10:41] <un_operateur> verifying*
[10:41] <magez_> i mean tcl :)
[10:42] <jordo23> un_operateur: may not matter as if I am not in chroot it will already be the latest version...
[10:42] <Jordan_U> clayg: Automatix only installs the latest stable drivers, not the beta drivers
[10:42] <selah> !worksforme
[10:42] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[10:42] <n3storm> magez: see
[10:42] <n3storm> wget http://www.doeweling.com/files/ubuntu/amsn/tcl8.5_8.5.0-1~neto3_i386.deb
[10:42] <n3storm> wget http://www.doeweling.com/files/ubuntu/amsn/tk8.5_8.5.0-1~neto3_i386.deb
[10:42] <n3storm> there you are
[10:42] <un_operateur> jordo23, yea, go ahead and try it -- I'd use this instead tho -- sudo aptitude install konqueror
[10:42] <magez_> :)
[10:42] <n3storm> are you following the howto?
[10:42] <n3storm> :)
[10:43] <n3storm> step by step at the terminal
[10:43] <patrick_> anyone?
[10:43] <selah> What is the advantage of aptitude over apt get?
[10:43] <jordo23> un_operateur: command not found? sudo?
[10:43] <phr34ck> magez_, how do you improve amsn agian ?
[10:43] <jordo23> un_operateur: I am already root....should I omit sudo?
[10:43] <noiesmo> selah, aptitude has better dependancy resolution
[10:43] <Azul> aptitude has a graphical interface
[10:43] <Azul> while apt get is a command line
[10:43] <Jordan_U> clayg: You can still get Beryl on dapper using XGL, but XGL is a hack and isn't verry stable
[10:44] <un_operateur> jordo23, yea, you can do that -- but might as well install sudo for later -- so - apt-get install konqueror sudo
[10:44] <selah> Why not use Synaptic then instead of aptitude?
[10:44] <Azul> noiesmo, i didn't know about the better dep resolution, is i true?
[10:44] <selah> Since it's built in. :)
[10:44] <clayg> Jordan_U, im gonna have to chip away at this tomorrow, the ol' lady is screaming and yelling, g'night all
[10:44] <noiesmo> Azul, you can do sudo aptitude install package name i
[10:44] <gkjones_> any 1 had success with berryl on edgy using low end 3d radion card
[10:44] <ademan> is there a way to use fluxbox instead of metacity but still use the rest of the GNOME desktop environment?
[10:44] <barata> hey .... I've just realized that Ubuntu's grub really sucks!
[10:44] <Azul> selah, freedom of choice i think
[10:44] <Jowi> patrick_, start "gnome-colume-control" and go to capture tab and untick that little red cross on the mic. then turn the volume meter of it way up.
[10:44] <Jordan_U> barata: In what way?
[10:45] <ademan> gkjones_: i suppose it could work with xgl
[10:45] <selah> Always a good reason Azul. Just trying to understand as a noob. :)
[10:45] <noiesmo> Azul, yes its much better has got me out of a bind a few times when apt-get just couldn't get it
[10:45] <un_operateur> Azul, I wouldnt call aptitude's ncurses interface graphical -- and it also has a command line interface almost fully compatible with apt-get
[10:45] <barata> you just cannot chroot and fix the grub after windoz stole it ....
[10:45] <patrick_> jowi, i have done that but still nothing
[10:45] <phr34ck> !metacity
[10:45] <ubotu> metacity: A lightweight GTK2 based Window Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.16.3-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 385 kB, installed size 764 kB
[10:45] <ub12> can some one remind me how to get a gpgkey for apt or synaptic?
[10:45] <barata> for sure using that 6.0.6 live CD just doesnt work
[10:45] <magez_> should i remove older tcl & tk packages first?
[10:45] <Jowi> patrick_, and if you click on the Options tab. what is the input source?
[10:45] <jordo23> un_operateur: It says it wants to install a ton of files, like 184 MB worth, is this normal?
[10:45] <Jordan_U> !grub | barata Yes you can
[10:45] <ubotu> barata Yes you can: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:45] <patrick_> jowi, i only have 3 controls too. if i plug a mic and headphones in before i boot, it gives me a couple more options but still doesnt help
[10:45] <phr34ck> so nautilus is the file manager, metacity is the window manager ... Interesting.
[10:46] <Azul> noiesmo, sounds better than apt-get.. i'll rtfm more about it
[10:46] <un_operateur> jordo23, yep, i'm afraid so
[10:46] <el-sio> hello ubuntu world
[10:46] <noiesmo> Azul, :)
[10:46] <barata> I'm reading it!
[10:46] <el-sio> ^^
[10:46] <jordo23> un_operateur: okay....here goes...
[10:46] <Jordan_U> !hi | el-sio
[10:46] <ubotu> el-sio: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:47] <patrick_> jowi, options?
[10:47] <selah> I've read that you shouldn't use all 3 either? Either use aptitude, apt-get or Synaptics? Is that true?
[10:47] <patrick_> jowi: i have preferences, but that just gives me 3 check boxes, master, pcm and capture
[10:47] <Jowi> patrick_, in the preferences for the volume control you select what you want to be seen. yeah the options tab is next to the Switches / capture tab
[10:47] <Jordan_U> selah: No, they work fine together
[10:47] <jordo23> un_operateur: gonna be a few minutes.....ultimately, if this works, I can launch 32 bit konq from my desktop right?
[10:47] <el-sio> is there a channel for ppc arch users ?
[10:47] <Azul> selah, just don't use more than one at a time
[10:48] <patrick_> jowi: i dont have an options tab... or a switches. just a capture
[10:48] <Jordan_U> el-sio: No, but you can try your question here :)
[10:48] <Jowi> patrick_, ok. so your hardware does not support to alternate the input source probably. if you go to File -> change device. do you have the alsa device selected?
[10:48] <selah> Yeah I read that Azul. What about the Add/Remove? Just another choice?
[10:48] <patrick_> yep
[10:48] <patrick_> jowi: but there is also hda generic
[10:48] <el-sio> thanks Jordan_U
[10:48] <el-sio> :)
[10:48] <un_operateur> jordo23, you'll need to create links to the 32 bit konqueror on the desktop .. with a little tweaking to fool the app .. but while this is installing, i'll figure it out (hopefully)
[10:48] <Azul> selah, yeah, i think it is a better choice for absolute noobs :)
[10:48] <Jowi> patrick_, try it
[10:49] <el-sio> Actually I was wondering what was the current status of beryl on edgy ppc ?
[10:49] <el-sio> in the official beryl repo there is no package
[10:49] <patrick_> jowi: that just gives me one tab - playback
[10:49] <Azul> makes them more comfortable
[10:49] <jordo23> un_operateur: in effect is this installing another os under that chroot dir?
[10:49] <patrick_> jowi: and in-gain
[10:49] <selah> So far I'm preferring Synaptic. Probably for no better reason than the built in gui. lol
[10:49] <el-sio> I can get only buggy packages on alternate repos
[10:49] <patrick_> jowi: when i go through preferences.
[10:49] <el-sio> so Iam building cvs but
[10:49] <Jordan_U> el-sio: It is only even possible if you have an ATI card and even then it is experimental at best
[10:49] <el-sio> : /
[10:49] <Azul> selah, there is also easyubuntu and automatix
[10:50] <el-sio> yes I have ATI card Jordan_U
[10:50] <el-sio> :)
[10:50] <Azul> there is a lot of package managers for linux
[10:50] <un_operateur> jordo23, quite right, yes -- and you are not limited to installing debian/ubuntu in the chroot, it can be any other distro too
[10:50] <Jowi> patrick_, so the alsa one is correct. how strange... btw in the capture tab is both the mic and speaker icons there unmuted?
[10:50] <el-sio> and it rocks
[10:50] <el-sio> :p
[10:50] <Jordan_U> !automatix | Azul
[10:50] <ubotu> Azul: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:50] <Azul> which can be confuzing
[10:50] <jordo23> un_operateur: Interesting....
[10:50] <patrick_> jowi: i have a compaq laptop, and it has built in mic and speakers. speakers are fine, but cant use inbuilt mic. and it has jacks in the front for the headphoens and mic, but they dont work
[10:50] <selah> Azul I'm staying away from those scripts until I understand the problems I've read about with using them.
[10:50] <Azul> Jordan_U, i know what automatix is, thank you
[10:50] <barata> that grub tutorial is adjusted from the debian one that I've tried too ... and damned ... it just doesnt work!
[10:50] <patrick_> jowi: yep in capture tab, both are unmuted and as high as can go
[10:50] <Pitr> What is the command for the gnome system configuration window? I want to see what programs are started at boot time of my laptop.
[10:50] <jordo23> un_operateur: I should be in root as my command prompt said root@roosevelt#
[10:50] <jordo23> roosevelt being the computer name of course
[10:51] <patrick_> jowi: when i boot with headphones and mic in, i get more options, switches etc, but it still doesnt allow me to record
[10:51] <Pitr> gnome-control-center gives the desktop prefs.. what's the command for system prefs? :)
[10:51] <Jowi> patrick_, are you sure you haven't reversed the jacks (put the headphone in the mic and vice versa)?
[10:51] <Azul> selah, yeah, it can get pretty messy, i tried automatix and it didn't work perfectly for me
[10:51] <Pitr> jordo23: yes, for messing up SVG support :(
[10:51] <patrick_> jowi: positive
[10:51] <patrick_> jowi: green and green, pink and p[ink
[10:51] <un_operateur> jordo23, yep, only root can change the root .. and by default root is the user in the chroot too (quite naturally)
[10:51] <Jordan_U> el-sio: There are PPC install instructions at the bottom of this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy
[10:52] <selah> I've read that aptitude cleans up better when you want to remove what you installed with it, but that wasn't my experience with using it to install and then remove kde.
[10:52] <jordo23> Pitr: Yeah....and for not making a 64 bit linux flash plugin... :(
[10:52] <Jowi> patrick_, try to alter them just in case. you never know. you should be able to hear yourself breath even if you're not recording
[10:52] <selah> Made me a gunshy of aptitude.
[10:52] <gandalfcome> need help with dual screen setup on ati. mouse position offset. help appreciated
[10:52] <jordo23> un_operateur: What's going to be the cost of this....speed?
[10:53] <patrick_> jowi: nothing. tried swapping them over
[10:53] <no-sleep> is anyone interested in testing TimeSaver project: http://timesaver.sf.net/ -version beta 0.5.3
[10:53] <patrick_> jowi: tried in both, but nothing
[10:53] <Azul> selah, i don't claim to know how aptitude exactly knows what dependencies to remove, and i hate kde so..
[10:53] <un_operateur> jordo23, negligible .. almost the same cost of installing firefox or konqueror normally
[10:53] <Jowi> patrick_, what is the alsa device name/souncard name?
[10:53] <el-sio> thanks Jordan_U i'll try this
[10:53] <patrick_> jowi: how do i find that?
[10:54] <jordo23> un_operateur: so 32 bit konq will function exactly the same as 64 bit on my system?
[10:54] <Pitr> found it: 'services-admin' :)
[10:54] <Jowi> patrick_, should be visible in the File -> device menu
[10:54] <selah> I don't hate kde, it's just dangerous (imho) for a noob seeing all those gui tools. Us windows transition noobs see a gui system tool and think, rtfm? nah, what could go wrong? lol
[10:54] <patrick_> HDA NVidia
[10:54] <cypher1> !w32codecs
[10:54] <patrick_> jowi: HDA NVidia
[10:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:55] <un_operateur> jordo23, well, you are going to trick the 32bit konqueror into thinking it is running on a true 32 bit OS .. so it will run as you would expect 32 bit konqueror would (i dunno if 32 bit and 64 bit konq behave exactly the same)
[10:55] <Jowi> patrick_, what laptop do you have?
[10:56] <patrick_> jowi: compaq v3118AU
[10:56] <jordo23> un_operateur: I just mean for all intensive purposes.....nothing technically different...
[10:56] <Azul> selah, i also moved from windows, and i thought kde just looks ugly.. gnome looks more professional and it isn't as bloated as kde
[10:56] <un_operateur> jordo23, no, you shouldnt notice any differrence at all ..
[10:57] <jordo23> un_operateur: sweet
[10:57] <fluxd> Hi can someone tell me how I can reinstall the ubuntu bootloader again?
[10:57] <Jordan_U> !grub | fluxd
[10:57] <ubotu> fluxd: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:57] <un_operateur> !!grub | fluxd
[10:57] <cypher1> which repository has w32codecs ?
[10:57] <un_operateur> oops
[10:57] <selah> That scary choice thing that linux gives us, Azul. lol. I made multiboot with a gnome partition and a kde partition so I can "break" the kde one all I want. :)
[10:57] <un_operateur> !info w32codecs
[10:58] <ubotu> w32codecs: win32 binary codecs. In component extras, is optional. Version 1:20060611-0.0 (edgy-seveas), package size 13911 kB, installed size 33488 kB (Only available for i386)
[10:58] <gandalfcome> need help with dual screen setup on ati. mouse position offset. help appreciated
[10:58] <ub12> when running apt-get I get a GPG error that the public key is not available can someone help?
[10:58] <Jowi> patrick_, perhaps a bug in the driver. look what i found http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-322632.html
[10:58] <Jordan_U> ub12: Did you add any repos recently?
[10:58] <un_operateur> ub12, for which repository?
[10:59] <mtyhome> hi
[10:59] <Jordan_U> !hi
[10:59] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:59] <selah> fluxd have you looked at Supergrub?
[10:59] <mtyhome> do you know how to set a time to live for specific processes under linux?
[10:59] <fluxd> selah: not really
[10:59] <ub12> Jordan_U, no new repos, wine.bugetdedicated.com is the problem
[10:59] <jordo23> un_operateur: was debootstrap updated in ubuntu within the last couple of hours or something.....under my regular user adept is telling me that an update to it is available....is this just a coincidence?
[11:00] <jordo23> un_operateur: along with Katapult and unrar...
[11:00] <patrick_> jowi: haha, thats my post... i am ozPATT
[11:00] <un_operateur> jordo23, well, probably -- but never mind it for now, you can always update it at a later time
[11:00] <Jowi> patrick_, lol that's funny
[11:01] <jordo23> un_operateur: yeah....was just worried it did something to my user account....must be a coincidence.....
[11:01] <Jowi> patrick_, what does "cat /proc/asound/modules" give you?
[11:01] <selah> http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/SuperGrubDiskPage.html#introduction
[11:01] <magez_> now i have done the amsn-look better installing like the instructions says, but now i tried to open the amsn and it says: segmentation fault
[11:01] <seanj> Argh, I can't get this Rosegarden program to out put sound with Timidity.. making music with the mouse is what I do with Windows and I'm hoping to ditch that
[11:02] <patrick_> jowi:  0 snd_hda_intel
[11:02] <fluxd> selah I have ubuntu windows and suse installed but I let the suse grub contol the list I just wanted to know how I can get back to the ubuntu one if something happened
[11:02] <Azul> what's wrong with amsn look, i thought it was pretty
[11:02] <Azul> fluxd, i just wouldn't play with a boot as much
[11:02] <selah> fluxd do you know how to edit your menu.lst and where to find it?
[11:03] <Azul> bootloader*
[11:03] <un_operateur> ub12, can you post the error mesage again please?? i need the pgp key you are missing
[11:03] <fluxd> azul selah yeah its just that I like suse bootloader screen better than a black and white screen
[11:03] <seanj> does anyone know how to get MIDI output with Rosegarden+Timidity ?
[11:04] <Azul> seanj, isn't there a rosegarden channel?
[11:05] <Azul> it would be better to ask there
[11:05] <seanj> okay Azul .. thank you
[11:05] <un_operateur> ub12, you there?
[11:05] <selah> You can copy the grub_splash file over to the new /boot/grub directory fluxd and it will do the same thing.
[11:05] <Azul> np
[11:05] <Jordan_U> ub12: For some reason it seems wine's repo does not use PGP ( I can't find the key mentioned anywhere on the site ) it shouldn't hurt anything though
[11:05] <selah> Fluxd and the color line. :)
[11:05] <ub12> GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY
[11:06] <un_operateur> ub12, almost, need the rest of the message :)
[11:06] <seanj> people are all asleep in there :(
[11:06] <Azul> :(
[11:06] <fluxd> selah yea thx :) so I follow this instruction to give the control back to ubuntu right? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-bf3232f10ddf1b078de064622ccbb25225cdb3c0
[11:06] <ub12> ^^^ NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263
[11:07] <jordo23> un_operateur: still downloading....
[11:07] <jordo23> un_operateur: going to be a little while...
[11:07] <un_operateur> jordo23, yep, be patient :)
[11:07] <Jordan_U> el-sio: I am curious, did beryl work?
[11:08] <seanj> guess I'm out of luck
[11:08] <mtyhome> do you know how to set a time to live for specific processes under linux?
[11:09] <Azul> setting a time to live? that's something i wanna do too
[11:09] <patrick_> jowi: does that mean anything to you?
[11:09] <el-sio> I'm baack
[11:09] <Jordan_U> el-sio: I am curious, did beryl work?
[11:09] <el-sio> and it is still not working
[11:09] <el-sio> :p
[11:09] <un_operateur> ub12, try this -- gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv  58403026387EE263 && gpg --export --armor 58403026387EE263 | sudo apt-key add -
[11:09] <selah> fluxd I didn't use that. I'm such a noob I used PuppyLinux livecd to edit my menu.lst manually. lol. You can see my final result here: http://www.linuxactionshow.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=250&page=1
[11:10] <selah> bottom of the page.
[11:10] <el-sio> in fact i get this error : libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[11:10] <el-sio> ** (process:4647): WARNING **: bailing, couldn't find a val for active_plugins in
[11:10] <el-sio> [_] ->a_active_plugins or
[11:10] <el-sio> [_] ->d_a_active_plugins
[11:10] <el-sio> X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
[11:10] <KomiaPoika> lol
[11:10] <magez_> now i have done the amsn-look better installing like the instructions says, but now i tried to open the amsn and it says: segmentation fault???
[11:10] <un_operateur> el-sio, oye, !paste
[11:10] <un_operateur> !paste | el-sio
[11:10] <ubotu> el-sio: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[11:10] <Azul> magez_, google it
[11:10] <el-sio> sorry
[11:10] <ub12> thank you un-operator. I now understand something I was trying to do earlier.
[11:10] <Azul> magez_, or try #amsn
[11:10] <fluxd> selah thanks
[11:11] <Jowi> patrick_, cat /proc/asound/card0/codex#0 and look at the first line. what does it say?
[11:11] <un_operateur> ub12, well, let me know if it works .. i'd like to make note
[11:11] <el-sio> so the current package seems to be buggy
[11:11] <selah> fluxd np. I'm still learning myself. About once a week I format the hda drive and start over. lol. I love this linux stuff.
[11:11] <ub12> ok just give me a minute ...
[11:11] <el-sio> can't i downgrade to a package with less features but at least working ^^
[11:11] <Jordan_U> el-sio: They mean it when they say "Highly Expiremental" :)
[11:11] <el-sio> lol
[11:11] <el-sio> sure
[11:11] <el-sio> :)
[11:11] <fluxd> selah same here lol
[11:11] <patrick_> jowi: Codec: Generic 14f1 ID 5045
[11:12] <Jordan_U> el-sio: There is no such package
[11:12] <el-sio> at least it crashes "clean" and you can retrieve your window manager without restart
[11:12] <el-sio> hum Iguess so
[11:12] <el-sio> this was the first package
[11:12] <el-sio> for ppc
[11:12] <selah> I love the fact I can leave Windows on hdb with Grub doing the map switching for bootup. :)
[11:12] <Jordan_U> el-sio: No, but the previous ones were worse :)
[11:13] <un_operateur> I love the fact i can run rdesktop to a windows box and not know the difference
[11:13] <el-sio> haha I see
[11:13] <un_operateur> :)
[11:13] <el-sio> too bad :p
[11:13] <selah> Grub spanks Windows and says "you'll live on the slave drive and like it!" lol
[11:17] <el-sio> well I try to build my own debs with a script found on http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org
[11:17] <el-sio> but I'm kind of newbie in compiling stuff
[11:17] <el-sio> p
[11:17] <Jordan_U> el-sio: It isn't that they are ignoring PPC or anything, it is just much harder to make it work on PPC for various reasons
[11:17] <el-sio> yes I can see that :D
[11:17] <el-sio> and it is nnow leaved to the community
[11:17] <el-sio> :'(
[11:17] <Jordan_U> el-sio: I doubt compiling it yourself will make any difference unfortunately :(
[11:17] <el-sio> yes but It worth a try ;)
[11:17] <ub12> un_operateur, it worked. I did it in two seperate lines so I could minimize failure. I split the command you gave me at the &&
[11:17] <selah> I have a question about how ubuntu does partitions on install. My default partition install put swap in an extended partition. PCLinuxOs insisted on a primary partition for swap. At least in my limited understanding of the situation. So I have 2 swap partitions. Can I safely get rid of one on this multiboot setup?
[11:17] <el-sio> I am compiling from the latest svn so maybe it was corrected :p (belieeeeeve!!!)
[11:17] <un_operateur> ub12, yep, that's ok .. good to know it works :)
[11:17] <fabio__|> can you watch this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1143/ It recognize a SCSI RAID adapter in your opinion?
[11:17] <Jordan_U> el-sio: You might want to ask on ##beryl see if anybody has ever gotten it to work on your model, plus, a beryl developer or two are usually hanging out there :)
[11:17] <ub12> un_operateur, one again thank you very much I get cross eyed reading all the man pages.
[11:17] <ub12> bye
[11:17] <Jowi> patrick_, this is a longshot. can you add the following line to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base: "options snd-hda-intel model=14f1" and reboot.
[11:17] <el-sio> good idea thx a lot Jordan_U
[11:17] <un_operateur> selah, as long as both OS's arent running simultenously  -- both OSes can share the same swap partition
[11:17] <steelb> how do i change the amount of desktops i can utilize?
[11:18] <Jowi> patrick_, is it snd-hda-intel that you have btw?
[11:18] <un_operateur> steelb, you mean workspaces? in relation to the pager and gnome desktop
[11:18] <un_operateur> ?
[11:18] <selah> un_operateur that's what I want. Will both distros see the swap in the extended partition?
[11:19] <steelb> un_operateur, yea
[11:19] <patrick_> jowi: i had a model=ref do i leave that in or replace it?
[11:19] <puff> what do people recommend for ripping a CD to mp3. Sound juicer?
[11:19] <patrick_> jowi: yes
[11:19] <un_operateur> selah, well, you'll need to explicitly tell both OSes to point swap at that partition, then it should be ok
[11:19] <selah> Jowi: right click on the Switch between workspaces icons in the lower right.
[11:19] <Jowi> patrick_, replace "ref" with the soundcard you have (14f1)
[11:20] <un_operateur> selah, did you mean that for steelb instead?
[11:20] <selah> lol yes. :)
[11:20] <steelb> yea thanks
[11:20] <Jowi> selah, thanks but ... ;)
[11:20] <patrick_> jowi: ok, rebooting now, see you in a min...
[11:20] <selah> nm Jowi. Yer way too elite to need that info. noob here. lol
[11:20] <puff> Hm, I installed sound-juicer, but it doesn't rip to mp3. What am I missing?
[11:20] <fabio__|> in which /dev/... can i found partition that are on a RAID 1 / SCSI adapter ??
[11:21] <Jowi> selah, elite? I don't believe in elitism. that's why I'm here helping out :)
[11:21] <un_operateur> selah, I think all you need to do is edit the /etc/fstab in pclos and point swap to the common swap partition
[11:21] <Jowi> selah, loved the game Elite though
[11:22] <selah> Jowi didn't mean it in a bad way. After I put yer name in front of that advice I saw what you were chatting about and thought "geez I must have got the wrong name!" lol
[11:22] <robis> #idioti
[11:22] <Jowi> selah, I understood that. just played along
[11:22] <selah> un_operateur thanks I'll give that a try. :)
[11:23] <selah> Jowi don't tease us noobs. We're too easy. lol
[11:23] <selah> lol
[11:24] <un_operateur> jowi goes to bed at night knowing he's got people to call themselves noobs that day .. it's a feeling of contentment and self-gratification, harmless but almost sinister :)
[11:24] <puff> Hm, something must have gotten blown away when I upgraded to deapper.
[11:25] <un_operateur> it got puffed away? :>
[11:25] <Jowi> lol un_operateur
[11:26] <patrick_> jowi: we have some progress! :D but still no joy... now in volume control, i have a tab called swtiches, with both front mic and mic as options. both are ticked
[11:26] <cypher1> where can i get the w32codecs package ?
[11:26] <selah> I spent the last decade in miserable, grouchy, angry servitude to windows providing half decent support "just format&reinstall..uh did you backup yer stuff?"
[11:26] <un_operateur> Jowi, that grue doesn't happen to be Richard M. Stallman does it? =))
[11:26] <ucenik_> join idioti
[11:26] <un_operateur> !w32codecs | cypher1
[11:26] <selah> Started reading all the good press on ubuntu and was tempted to eat the apple. lol
[11:26] <ubotu> cypher1: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:26] <Jowi> patrick_, do you have any options anywhere to swich input source?
[11:27] <patrick_> jowi: where should they be? in the volum manager?
[11:27] <kane77> how do I run the archiver?
[11:27] <ucenik_> join idioti
[11:27] <selah> But I came into the community with an attitude even before trying to install ubuntu saying "it's too hard! It won't work! I'll have to do hard stuff!" and other whines.
[11:27] <Jowi> patrick_, yeah
[11:27] <jordo23> un_operateur: still downloading....
[11:27] <ucenik__> dd
[11:27] <selah> Then I actually installed ubuntu and it went on smooth as silk.
[11:27] <cypher1> un_operateur: but i am not able to find which repository i have to use to install w32codecs
[11:27] <selah> Referring to myself as a noob is my punishment. lol
[11:28] <patrick_> jowi: i only have the two checkboxes on switch tab, both of which are ticker
[11:28] <un_operateur> jordo23, errm, sheesh, at what rate .. 2kbps ? :>
[11:28] <un_operateur> cypher1, errm, i think you need !seveas's repository
[11:28] <kane77> I need to zip (rar, tar) files in /var/www.... how do I do it?
[11:28] <un_operateur> !seveas | cypher1
[11:28] <ubotu> cypher1: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:28] <Jowi> patrick_, maybe you should untick one of them. or run "alsamixer" in a terminal to see if you have some unseen options.
[11:29] <patrick_> jowi: ok, will try that...
[11:29] <lwizardl> hi
[11:29] <lwizardl> is the GeForce 7600GS supported ?
[11:29] <jordo23> un_operateur: I don't think it's me.....it's the repositories...
[11:30] <Jowi> patrick_, unfortunatley you have reached the end of my knowledge of sound devices and mic problems if it doesn't work :-/
[11:30] <patrick_> jowi: well i am closer than i was, so thank you for all your help
[11:30] <Jowi> patrick_, unmute everything you see hehe
[11:30] <jordo23> un_operateur: going at like 14kb/s
[11:30] <un_operateur> jordo23, oooh, you know what, cancel the downloads and change mirrors
[11:31] <jordo23> un_operateur: but I've come all this way!
[11:31] <un_operateur> jordo23, you should be getting atleast 20x that
[11:31] <cypher1> un_operateur: thanks
[11:31] <un_operateur> jordo23, you won't lose what you've already downloaded, that's going to stat put
[11:31] <fabio__|> in which /dev/... can i found partition that are on a RAID 1 / SCSI adapter ??
[11:31] <jordo23> un_operateur: downloading currently from us.archive.ubuntu.com is there a better one?
[11:31] <un_operateur> jordo23, it'll just continue on from where it stopped once you change mirrors
[11:32] <un_operateur> jordo23, yep, i prefer the uk ones
[11:32] <jordo23> un_operateur: how do I cancel?
[11:32] <un_operateur> jordo23, CTRL+C
[11:32] <sexy_ja> my
[11:32] <jordo23> un_operateur: how do I change mirrors?
[11:32] <patrick_> jowi: haha, been there done that. in alsamixer, i can only switch between front mic and microphone. in the gnome-volume-control i can select both
[11:32] <sexy_ja> oh my
[11:32] <sexy_ja> what's this
[11:32] <sexy_ja> ???
[11:32] <sexy_ja> oh i'm cool
[11:33] <un_operateur> jordo23, errm,  perl -i.bak -pe 's/\bus\./uk./g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:33] <hgist> good morning
[11:33] <sexy_ja> good night
[11:33] <Jowi> fabio__|, instead of huntin the /dev directory maybe you should check "sudo fdisk -l" or "sudo parted" (and type "print" and "quit" afterwards)
[11:33] <jordo23> un_operateur: run that?
[11:33] <un_operateur> jordo23, yep
[11:33] <VilleVicious> My firefox won't open certain pages such as google or http://fi.wikibooks.org/wiki/Ubuntu_tutuksi
[11:34] <jordo23> un_operateur:  I don't think that worked....
[11:34] <Jowi> patrick_, yeah. front mic will probably not be enabled if you have the mic jack connected. in laptops it's either one or the other. plug in external speakers and the internal one gets muted (by hardware)
[11:34] <un_operateur> jordo23, why dont you think so?
[11:34] <Jowi> patrick_, s/enabled/working
[11:34] <jordo23> un_operateur: same command apt-get install konqueror sudo?
[11:34] <jordo23> un_operateur: this will test it
[11:35] <un_operateur> jordo23, yes
[11:35] <jordo23> un_operateur: yeah...didn't work with that command...
[11:36] <patrick_> jowi: what did that last bit mean?
[11:36] <un_operateur> jordo23, i need to know what failed .. do you get any error messages?
[11:36] <hgist> guys could someone recommend me an IM SW for traversing text between  1 Xp and 2 Ubuntu
[11:36] <hgist> in a LAN
[11:37] <jordo23> un_operateur: did you get that?
[11:37] <un_operateur> jordo23, i got the pm -- unfortunately i cant reply -- that's a warning which you can avoid .. just verify that the changes were made tho
[11:37] <un_operateur> jordo23, cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:38] <Jowi> patrick_, yeah. front mic will probably not *work* if you have the mic jack connected. in laptops it's either one or the other. plug in external speakers and the internal one gets muted (by hardware)
[11:38] <jordo23> un_operateur: will pastebin
[11:38] <un_operateur> jordo23, you can paste it in pm .. thats ok
[11:39] <Jowi> patrick_, if you plug in a microphone then the integrated mic in the laptop will not capture any sound. (sorry for being bad at explaining things properly)
[11:39] <patrick_> jowi: ok. well thanks for your help, i now have the extra tab, so that has to be progress. :) even if it still doesnt work :D
[11:39] <patrick_> jowi: thats fine
[11:40] <patrick_> jowi: should there be a tab for headphones too?
[11:40] <Jowi> patrick_, not likely
[11:40] <evelin> hy
[11:40] <patrick_> jowi: ok, cos they arent working either :D haha ah well, will keep on searching :D
[11:41] <sexy_ja> hy
[11:41] <Jowi> good luck patrick_
[11:41] <sexy_ja> evelin rocks
[11:41] <patrick_> thanks jowi] 
[11:41] <fabio__|> Jowi: i tried with "sudo fdisk -l" but nothing appears, i have also tried with "sudo fdisk /dev/sda" but don't work and also "sudo fdisk /dev/rd/c0d0"
[11:41] <jordo23> un_operateur: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/856629  Do I have to apt-get update?
[11:42] <fabio__|> Jowi: this is my "lspci" output, it sees the Raid/Scsi device.. at least i think so.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1143/
[11:42] <jordo23> un_operateur: yeah....that was it.....
[11:42] <selah> is it supposed to be sudo cfdisk?
[11:43] <un_operateur> jordo23, yea, update and try again, should work
[11:43] <jordo23> un_operateur: now at 300+ kb/s.... nice......did that update the locations on my users sources.list or just the chroot copy?
[11:43] <Enverex> What would I need to install to get the kernel source files in "/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/source"? (and no, kernel-headers and kernel-source don't seem to be the right ones)
[11:44] <un_operateur> jordo23, well, it was your chroot's one :)
[11:44] <jordo23> un_operateur: I am starting to understand :)
[11:44] <jordo23> un_operateur: Whoa....done downloading already...
[11:45] <jordo23> un_operateur: should be done...
[11:45] <jordo23> un_operateur: How do I test konqueror?
[11:45] <jordo23> un_operateur: Just run it?
[11:45] <un_operateur> jordo23, its gotta install now, hasn't it?
[11:45] <jordo23> un_operateur: yep....done
[11:45] <jordo23> un_operateur: should I run it?
[11:45] <un_operateur> jordo23, just to be safe, run the command again --
[11:45] <un_operateur> jordo23, and to verify no broken packages -- aptitude install -f
[11:46] <jordo23> un_operateur: says both konqueror and sudo are current versions...
[11:46] <Jowi> fabio__|,  should be /dev/md0 no?
[11:47] <Enverex> Damn, been asking this for 2 days now, no-one has any ideas? I need to install/compile this driver to get my TV card to work.
[11:47] <jordo23> un_operateur: none broken
[11:47] <fabio__|> Jowi: it says, unable to read /dev/md0
[11:47] <Jowi> fabio__|, cat /proc/mdstat
[11:48] <un_operateur> jordo23, there's a couple of other packages you need installing too -- so -- aptitude install wget debconf devscripts gnupg build-essential locales dialog
[11:49] <bakert> hi folks.  today i'm doing something quite boring but i'm trying to find a nice functional way of doing it.
[11:49] <jordo23> un_operateur:  ok....done installing those
[11:49] <bakert> form field validation.
[11:49] <bakert> oops wrong group.  i'll go away now!
[11:50] <un_operateur> jordo23, ok, seems good so far .. now, you need to complete the config as per the "Setting up a dchroot (non-root) environment" on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[11:50] <fabio__|> Jowi: I did it, there is nothing of useful in that file... FYI, i'm on a Ubuntu Desktop in live mode, i want to install on that old machine with RAID1/SCSI disk Ubuntu, but first i want to check if i will not have hardware problems... so i'm trying to mount that SCSi/Raid 1 disk from the "live mode" of ubuntu desktop
[11:51] <Jowi> fabio__|, ah, so raid isn't actually set up on the machine. you just want to have a peek at the harddisk is that it?
[11:52] <jordo23> un_operateur: do I run those commands as chroot?
[11:52] <jordo23> un_operateur: cause they aren't working...
[11:52] <un_operateur> jordo23, errm, nope, those ones you run outside the chroot in the parent --
[11:52] <un_operateur> jordo23, hold please, one second
[11:53] <jordo23> un_operateur: how do I get out of chroot?
[11:53] <fabio__|> Jowi: i want to install Ubuntu Server on that machine (with just a SCSI / RAID1 disks), so now with the "live mode" of Ubuntu Desktop i'm trying to check if it can work or not. Th only useful thing i have found, is the output of "lspci" command, that you can see here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1143/
[11:53] <jordo23> un_operateur: new terminal?
[11:53] <un_operateur> jordo23, yea, better have a new terminal open
[11:53] <livingdaylight> Hello fellow Ubunteros!
[11:53] <un_operateur> jordo23, ok, i found something better
[11:54] <un_operateur> jordo23, continue on from point #8 here -- http://process-of-elimination.net/wiki/Ubuntu_32bit_CHROOT_for_AMD64
[11:54] <Jowi> fabio__|, in that case the disk is probably called /dev/sd(a,b,c etc etc). yes, I see your lspci output. line 13+14 looks positive
[11:54] <cableroy_> where can i remove gnome-sessions manual? my gnome wont start correctly
[11:55] <Dormot> anyone know the command to access the root user and give permission to a folder
[11:55] <un_operateur> !sudo | Dormot
[11:55] <ubotu> Dormot: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:55] <un_operateur> Dormot, sudo -i  should give you a root shell
[11:55] <Enverex> What would I need to install to get the kernel source files in "/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/source"? (and no, kernel-headers and kernel-source don't seem to be the right ones)
[11:55] <Dormot> ok
[11:56] <jordo23> un_operateur: I am in Ubuntu config setting a password....should the password match my users password?
[11:56] <un_operateur> Enverex, you need linux-headers for your current kernel
[11:56] <Enverex> un_operateur, They are installed according to apt-get
[11:56] <un_operateur> jordo23, ok, why are you doing that?
[11:56] <fabio__|> Jowi: i did "sudo fdisk /dev/sd[a,b,c,d] " but no success..
[11:57] <un_operateur> fabio__|, what are you trying to do?
[11:57] <fabio__|> Jowi: i think that that raid1/scsi disks are no mapped to any /dev/..
[11:57] <jordo23> un_operateur: Third line in the second box on the wiki.....tells you to run dpkg-reconfigure passwd
[11:57] <christopher_l> Hello all, my new keyboard won't work, here's some information: http://pastie.caboo.se/32556. Someone?
[11:57] <jordo23> un_operateur: puts you back in chroot before that
[11:57] <fabio__|> un_operateur: i am trying to mount a couple of scsi/raid1, my lspci is this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1143/
[11:58] <un_operateur> jordo23, err, sorry, didnt you get my latter post asking to use this wiki instead - http://process-of-elimination.net/wiki/Ubuntu_32bit_CHROOT_for_AMD64
[11:59] <un_operateur> jordo23, stop what you are doing , use this wiki and continue on from #8
[12:00] <Vich> http://www.whatwouldjesusdownload.com
[12:00] <un_operateur> fabio__|,  what does fdisk -l give you?
[12:00] <Vich> ubuntu christian edition?
[12:00] <Vich> don't fall for it fabio__|
[12:00] <fabio__|> un_operateur: nothing listed at all.
[12:00] <Vich> fdisk formats your disk
[12:00] <Vich> OH NO
[12:00] <Vich> did you sudo it?
[12:00] <lupine_85> ...no it doesn't.... :D
[12:00] <Vich> :p
[12:00] <Dormot> for the chmod, what otehr command do i need to granat permission a  folder
[12:01] <joris__> join #users.openoffice.org
[12:01] <Vich> chmod +r folder
[12:01] <Dormot> oh ok
[12:01] <Vich> or a number
[12:01] <jordo23> un_operateur: do I just copy paste the 12 lines under point 8?
[12:01] <Jowi> !chmod | Dormot
[12:01] <ubotu> Dormot: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[12:01] <jordo23> un_operateur: In fstab?
[12:02] <Vich> !ubotu | Jowi
[12:02] <ubotu> Jowi: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:02] <Vich> :p
[12:02] <un_operateur> jordo23, almost .. but you need to substitute $CHROOT32 for the location you used
[12:02] <Vich> !ubotu | grep yourself by the throat
[12:02] <ubotu> grep yourself by the throat: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:02] <fabio__|> un_operateur: i'm on a ubuntu desktop in live mode, i'm trying to understand if I can install "ubuntu server" on that machine with a pair of scsi disks in raid1/scsi mode.
[12:02] <neutrinomass> Using vmware, can I install to a real partition ?
[12:03] <Vich> !ubotu | The following paragraph is fiction, any resemblence to persons alive or dead is purely coincidental
[12:03] <ubotu> The following paragraph is fiction, any resemblence to persons alive or dead is purely coincidental: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:03] <un_operateur> fabio__|, oh, errm, I think you need the alternate CD to do this -- you might need to configure RAID/LVMs independently
[12:03] <cableroy_> where can i remove gnome-sessions manual? my gnome wont start correctly
[12:04] <jordo23> un_operateur: so replace "$CHROOT32" with /var/chroot/?
[12:04] <un_operateur> jordo23, yep :)
[12:04] <fabio__|> un_operateur: but actually i'm not trying to "install" ubuntu :) i'm just trying to understand if I can see correctly scsi/raid1 configuration
[12:04] <jordo23> un_operateur: What about line 11 (media)
[12:05] <un_operateur> jordo23, well, you'll need to compile your own lines for whatever you have in media .. but only if you want konqueror or other apps in the chroot to use these drives
[12:05] <Vich> you'd think that ubotu would ignore nicknames in those queries that have spaces in them
[12:06] <Vich> considering that nicknames can't have spaces
[12:06] <jordo23> un_operateur: I'll worry about that later...
[12:06] <un_operateur> fabio__|, errm, I'm not too sure how this would work
[12:06] <selah> What's the difference between fdisk and cfdisk and is there an advantage to using one over the other?
[12:06] <fabio__|> un_operateur: i will NOT install ubuntu with "ubuntu desktop", i'm just using "ubuntu desktop" in live mode, to check if i can mount that scsi/raid1 disks
[12:06] <un_operateur> fabio__|, and i definitely think you might need a better "recovery cd" like knoppix to do what you are doing
[12:06] <Vich> !xorg | Vich, you silly person! Here's what I know about xorg
[12:06] <ubotu> Vich, you silly person! Here's what I know about xorg: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:06] <un_operateur> fabio__|, yes, i got you the first time :)
[12:07] <jordo23> un_operateur: Did that look right? Also, can I put these lines anywhere in the file?
[12:07] <un_operateur> jordo23, looks good so far
[12:07] <un_operateur> jordo23, best put at the end ..
[12:07] <fabio__|> un_operateur: i have knoppix cd, but i think that is better to know if the pre-compiled kernel in ubuntu distro will like that hardware configuration or not.. maybe with knoppix it can work.. but maybe not with ubuntu :)
[12:07] <Jessica> idioti
[12:07] <Dormot> ok, i messed up, now i cant access mu stuff, im gettin permission denied
[12:08] <Vich> wow
[12:08] <Vich> how'd you do that Dormot ?
[12:08] <Dormot> i tried chmod -rwx /home
[12:08] <Jowi> selah, both tools are good. I prefer cfdisk.
[12:08] <Dormot> then i cant access anything
[12:08] <Vich> that was not wise
[12:08] <Vich> yeah
[12:08] <selah> Jowi, any particular reason?
[12:08] <Vich> since you removed read, write and execute
[12:08] <un_operateur> fabio__|, i  really don't know too much about this, i've found knoppix to deal with hardware quite well.. plus it has the right tools for the job
[12:08] <Dormot> can i fix it
[12:08] <Vich> yeah
[12:08] <Dormot> how lol
[12:08] <Vich> sudo chmod +rwx /home
[12:09] <Dormot> i cant access terminal
[12:09] <Vich> why not?
[12:09] <Dormot> try diff account?
[12:09] <fabio__|> un_operateur: ok thanks very much, i will try to look for some docs about ubuntu and raid1/scsi discs.. but i think it's not easy to be found
[12:09] <Vich> I suppose
[12:09] <Jowi> selah, I get a better overview with cfdisk and the options that i have.
[12:09] <Dormot> k
[12:09] <Vich> but I don't like the fact you can't access terminal
[12:09] <selah> Jowi, ah. Thanks.
[12:09] <Vich> that doesn't sound good
[12:09] <un_operateur> fabio__|, best you try docs on a more general scale .. not specific to ubuntu or knoppix
[12:10] <Vich> !french | un_operateur, are you french? If so read this
[12:10] <ubotu> un_operateur, are you french? If so read this: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:10] <kleftisx_> hello how can i change between language? what keys i use (ex for windows Alt+Shift)
[12:10] <fabio__|> un_operateur: yes, but that machine have just that disks in scsi/raid1, so i need that the disks will be "recognized" during the ubuntu installation..
[12:10] <un_operateur> Vich, merci mais je ne suis pas francais
[12:10] <Vich> lol
[12:10] <selah> Do you need to use fdisk/cfdisk for anything if you are using Gparted/Qtparted/Diskdrake, etc.?
[12:10] <Dormot> goddamn it
[12:10] <Dormot> i broke it
[12:11] <Dormot> i cant access anything
[12:11] <Vich> mai je suis parle francais
[12:11] <Vich> er
[12:11] <Dormot> not a single account
[12:11] <Vich> je parle francais
[12:11] <faeryNatsuki> hello
[12:11] <Vich> not I am speak french
[12:11] <Vich> :S
[12:11] <Vich> it's been too long
[12:11] <Vich> mon petit chat et formidable!
[12:11] <faeryNatsuki> i need a hand, how can i set kopete to log my chats?
[12:11] <Vich> il mange toujours avec mon a table
[12:11] <Vich> or whatever
[12:12] <Vich> Dormot, can you explain exactly what you did
[12:12] <jordo23> un_operateur: On step ten....where should this script reside?
[12:12] <Dormot> Vich gimme 1 sec i can acces terminal again
[12:12] <Vich> faeryNatsuki,  #kopete
[12:12] <Jowi> selah, you can't run gparted in a terminal
[12:12] <jordo23> un_operateur: and what should I name it?
[12:12] <Vich> lol
[12:12] <Dormot> Vich ow do i fix it
[12:12] <Vich> sudo chmod +rwx /home
[12:12] <Dormot> Vich its like in safe mode
[12:12] <un_operateur> fabio__|, again, i dunno how it ought to work -- whatever floats your boat, ubuntu or knoppix  :)
[12:12] <selah> Jowi, good point.
[12:13] <kleftisx_> hello how can i change between languages? what keys i use (ex for windows Alt+Shift) ?
[12:13] <un_operateur> jordo23, place it in /usr/bin .
[12:13] <jordo23> un_operateur: what should it be named?
[12:13] <Jowi> selah, and I'm not sure if gparted can change the flags (never tried it)
[12:13] <faeryNatsuki> thanks Vich
[12:13] <un_operateur> jordo23, call it err .. launch32.sh
[12:14] <Enverex> What would I need to install to get the kernel source files in "/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/source"? (and no, kernel-headers and kernel-source don't seem to be the right ones)
[12:14] <selah> Jowi, better point! I'll research it.
[12:14] <Vich> Dormot, if you want to apply it to subfolders and such
[12:14] <Vich> sudo chmod -R +rwx /home
[12:14] <Vich> the -R bit means recursive
[12:14] <Dormot> Vich whats the command for global permission
[12:14] <Vich> I don't think there is one
[12:14] <Vich> but
[12:14] <Dormot> like something with 777
[12:14] <Vich> 777
[12:15] <Vich> is all access to everything
[12:15] <un_operateur> Dormot, chmod a+rwx /path/to/file
[12:15] <Vich> if you want to give read access to everyone
[12:15] <Vich> but only write access to others
[12:15] <jordo23> un_operateur: Okay...done.....now what...
[12:15] <Vich> er
[12:15] <Vich> write access to owner
[12:15] <Dormot> so if /home is the problem then chmod +rwx /home will fix it?
[12:15] <Vich> possibly
[12:16] <mneptok> Dormot: no
[12:16] <Vich> I don't know exactly what your problem is
[12:16] <un_operateur> jordo23, errm, well .. i think you are ready to test fire -- try -- launch32.sh konqueror
[12:16] <Dormot> i blocked access to my /home folder
[12:16] <Vich> a = all?
[12:16] <mneptok> Dormot: what are you trying to do?
[12:16] <Vich> you want a+rwx
[12:16] <Vich> possibly
[12:16] <Dormot> giving permission to access /home
[12:16] <jordo23> un_operateur: as normal user?
[12:16] <Dormot> cause i cant even log in in my account
[12:16] <Vich> I'm actually more used to the octal form of permissions
[12:16] <Vich> lol
[12:16] <mneptok> Dormot: ls -l /home
[12:16] <fabio__|> thank you to all, i go to have lunch break
[12:17] <Dormot> ok
[12:17] <mneptok> Dormot: what does that say?
[12:17] <un_operateur> jordo23, as normal user .. yep .. outside chroot
[12:17] <Vich> !lunch | fabio__|
[12:17] <Vich> NOTHING FOR LUNCH EH?
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lunch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <Vich> lol
[12:18] <Vich> !my second cousin twice removed on my mother's side who was once an apprentice plumber, before joining the circus
[12:18] <Dormot> mneptok its says all diff account names with drwxr-xr--26 <account name>
[12:18] <mneptok> Dormot: for *your* accounts home dir?
[12:18] <mneptok> *account's
[12:18] <Enverex> Do I need to install anything other than kernel-source and kernel-headers to compile and install drivers?
[12:19] <un_operateur> jordo23,  what does this command give you?  which launch32.sh
[12:19] <selah> Coffee break! Cya later all.
[12:19] <Dormot> mneptok yea
[12:19] <jordo23> un_operateur: what do you mean?
[12:19] <un_operateur> jordo23, type the command out -- which launch32.sh
[12:19] <Dormot> mneptok is it fixed like that?
[12:20] <mneptok> Dormot: what does the line for your home dir say? paste it.
[12:20] <DiKKy> hy
[12:20] <jordo23> un_operateur: /usr/bin/launch32.sh
[12:20] <Dormot> cant, im on diff pc
[12:20] <jordo23> un_operateur: nothing opens graphically..
[12:20] <mneptok> Dormot: then tell me what the perms and owners are
[12:20] <Dormot> mneptok ill type it
[12:21] <un_operateur> jordo23, yes, just testing to see if you had the right command -- try this-- /usr/bin/launch32.sh konqueror
[12:21] <Dormot> mneptok it says for my main account drwxr-xr-r venom1588 venom1588 4096 ...
[12:23] <faeryNatsuki> one good program to use yahoo messenger?? (not kopete, not gaim, not yahoomessenger for linux, any other good suggestion???)
[12:23] <un_operateur> jordo23, hmm .. that's odd, i can't really place my finger on the cause there -- anyway -- dchroot -d konqueror
[12:23] <Dormot> from the console, how do i go back to log in menu or resart pc
[12:23] <Enverex> If I add a module to /lib/modules/whatever how do I update the system to see it? Just putting it there doesn't work due to needing to run modules-update or something but that doesn't work on Ubuntu anymore it seems
[12:24] <Jowi> Enverex, modprobe/insmod ?
[12:24] <Enverex> Jowi, I just said it's not seen because you have to update the mod database first
[12:24] <jordo23> un_operateur: seems that makes Konq load, but then crashes right away...
[12:25] <jordo23> un_operateur: a ton of terminal output too...
[12:25] <Enverex> So much for ever getting help in here :/
[12:25] <Dormot> whats the command to restart PC?
[12:25] <Jowi> Enverex, module-assistant update I believe (but not sure)
[12:25] <somerville32> !support | Enverex
[12:25] <ubotu> Enverex: For your support options, see http://www.ubuntu.com/support
[12:25] <gaubong> faeryNatsuki: gyArch
[12:26] <el-sio> cqn someone help me find my "autoconf macro directory" ?
[12:26] <mneptok> Dormot: still here, stand by
[12:26] <Enverex> Jowi, Doesn't exist
[12:26] <un_operateur> jordo23, ouch, ok, !pastebin please .. if you can't paste all --- try the command again but capture output -- dchroot -d "konqueror" &> debug   .. then !pastebin the contents of ./debug
[12:26] <Dormot> mneptok ywa
[12:26] <zxccvb> hey...my sound does not work recently..i need help
[12:27] <jordo23> un_operateur: already there...one sec
[12:27] <twiztr> My internet connect is going at about 15kbps d/l... two days ago it was at around 450kbps...
[12:27] <twiztr> And ideas?
[12:27] <Enverex> somerville32, er, yeah... thanks
[12:27] <jordo23> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/856648
[12:27] <zxccvb> my sound does not work totally..suddenly about a week back..any help or past experiences
[12:27] <jordo23> un_operateur http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/856648
[12:27] <Jowi> Enverex, then go with update-modules
[12:28] <zxccvb> i am a newbie..switched from windwos..pls help
[12:28] <Enverex> Jowi, It seems to exit quietly and instantly
[12:28] <Enverex> Jowi, It also says its depreciated
[12:28] <Yeti_69> !french
[12:28] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:29] <Jowi> Enverex, oh. that's news to me
[12:29] <Jowi> I wonder what the replacement is...
[12:29] <zxccvb> how come i dont get any help..pls with sound
[12:29] <Enverex> When I try and compile the driver itself I get....
[12:29] <zxccvb> plssssssss
[12:29] <Enverex> make -C /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/source O=/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/build SUBDIRS=`pwd`
[12:29] <Enverex> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/source: No such file or directory. Stop.
[12:29] <socorrista_ach> ppl [[[] ] ] 
[12:30] <Dormot> mneptok u there
[12:30] <Jowi> !info modules-assistant
[12:30] <twiztr> So, no ideas then...
[12:30] <ubotu> Package modules-assistant does not exist in any distro I know
[12:30] <jordo23> un_operateur: make any sense?
[12:30] <Jowi> !info module-assistant
[12:30] <zxccvb> what the hell is the problem with ppl...no helpful folks out there?
[12:30] <Jessica> exit
[12:30] <ubotu> module-assistant: tool to make module package creation easier. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.6 (edgy), package size 78 kB, installed size 404 kB
[12:30] <Jessica> exit
[12:31] <un_operateur> jordo23, it doesnt look worrying ,.. i just think you need a reboot
[12:31] <jordo23> un_operateur: okay....brb
[12:31] <XiXaQ> how do I change logo on the system menu?
[12:31] <zxccvb> ppllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
[12:31] <Jowi> zxccvb, if you describe your problem properly and still don't get a reply maybe it is because nobody knows. people in here are mostly volounters.
[12:31] <XiXaQ> I mean, I'd like to change the Ubuntu logo with something else. Is it possible?
[12:32] <zxccvb> okay...my problem is that i have absolutely no sound from my comp and i am pretty sure that the speakers are working fine
[12:32] <mneptok> Dormot: sudo chmod -R 600 /home/demon1588 && chmod -R -x+X /home/demon1588/*
[12:32] <Jowi> zxccvb, in the meantime. did you check the sound troubleshooting guide?
[12:32] <mneptok> Dormot: oops
[12:32] <mneptok> Dormot: sudo chmod -R 600 /home/demon1588 && sudo chmod -R -x+X /home/demon1588/*
[12:32] <mneptok> there we go
[12:33] <Jowi> !sound | zxccvb
[12:33] <ubotu> zxccvb: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[12:33] <Dormot> mneptok ok
[12:34] <Dormot> mneptok YES ITS FIXED
[12:34] <Dormot> mneptok ty alot
[12:34] <hotti> hmm, i have problems with sound too, when using flash in 32bit firefox i cannot use the soundcard with any other program
[12:34] <Dormot> mneptok ok 1 more question
[12:34] <Dormot> mneptok i want to add a directory named hlds_1
[12:34] <Dormot> mneptok how do i do that
[12:35] <Enverex> Jowi, still doesn't work, the module is there but it's still not seeing it. Under Gentoo I'd do "update-modules -f" but that doesn't seem to do anything here
[12:35] <jordo23> un_operateur: Ok.....what's the exact command again....I rebooted...
[12:36] <Dormot> i want to add a dir for running steam on my pc named hlds_1 how do i do that
[12:37] <Jowi> Enverex, I'm lost. I used "sudo update-modules" in the past that worked. there's no info on what it will be replaced with either to see if there is an alternative way. must investigate.
[12:38] <jordo23> un_operateur: same thing happened with dchroot -d konqueror
[12:38] <Enverex> Jowi, It's diving me mad. The source wont compile that it comes with so I can't do it that way and no-one will help me and using their pre-made one doesn't work because nothing will see it
[12:38] <Enverex> root@Alpha:~/src/a828-install# find /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/ -iname a828.ko
[12:38] <Enverex> /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/misc/a828.ko
[12:38] <Jowi> Enverex, you think depmod -a is needed?
[12:39] <Enverex> Jowi, That worked, thanks
[12:39] <Jowi> pure luck from my part Enverex
[12:39] <Enverex> Jowi, But it doesn't work because the module is for the wrong kernel, heh
[12:39] <Jowi> ouch
[12:39] <Enverex> I just need to find out why the source wont compile :(
[12:39] <twiztr> i benchmarked 3.2mbps about 3 days ago... now i am at dialup speeds on a cable line. im goign to have to fucking call cust support. damn
[12:40] <Dormot> anyone how to create a new dir to install steam (halflife)
[12:40] <sonam> help needed with my ethernet? ifconfig does not show eth0....why?
[12:41] <mneptok> Dormot: why do you need to add a dir in /home ?
[12:43] <Dormot> mneptok its not in /home but in the previous folder where i can run steam as a dedicated server
[12:43] <jordo23> un_operateur: still there?
[12:44] <PhibreOptix> So, any news on a shockwave plugin for linux yet?
[12:44] <mneptok> Dormot: the Steam server daemon will need to run as a user. i suggest you either run it under your account, or create an account for it
[12:44] <Dormot> mneptok check out http://www.japje.nl/linux-steam-and-cs16-install-guide
[12:45] <Dormot> mneptok thats where im gettin my info
[12:45] <mneptok> Dormot: "Ok, Lets get started.Go to your homedir and lets make a new dir for the server, and then go into that dir."
[12:45] <jordo23> jordo23
[12:45] <Dormot> mneptok how do i make the Dir, tahts my question
[12:45] <mneptok> Dormot: it wants you to create that folder in your own home
[12:46] <mneptok> Dormot: it wants you to create that folder *******in your own home*******
[12:46] <mneptok> ;)
[12:47] <Dormot> mneptok i tried mkdir but it didnt work, unless i got mkdir /home/hlds_1?
[12:47] <twiztr> 16.2mb proggy d/led in 24 sec
[12:47] <un_operateur> jordo23, i'm back, went to get a coffee
[12:47] <Dormot> mneptok cause i need root to make dirs
[12:47] <mneptok> Dormot: /home/hlds_1 *****is not in your home dir*****
[12:47] <un_operateur> jordo23, same exact thing eh?
[12:48] <twiztr> so... throwing a shoe at a cable modem will get it from 18kpbs to ~700kbps
[12:48] <jordo23> un_operateur: okay.....same thing happened....its like Konq wants to open but then the crash handler appears...
[12:48] <mneptok> Dormot: what is your home directory?
[12:48] <Dormot> mneptok i think venom1588
[12:49] <mneptok> Dormot: so, if those instructions are telling you to create a dir in your home ....
[12:49] <Dormot> mneptok oh i see, the folder is there i was just looking in the wrong place
[12:49] <un_operateur> jordo23, it's a KDE thing .. i don't really know much about KDE .. errm, can you try installing something non-KDE like firefox in the chroot to see if it works
[12:50] <jordo23> un_operateur: what was the link to that second page you sent me?
[12:50] <PhibreOptix> Anybody know how to stop ubuntu from freezing when you leave it idle?
[12:51] <un_operateur> jordo23, errm, ok .. this should get you to the chrooted terminal - sudo dchroot -d "bash"
[12:51] <jordo23> PhibreOptix: that used to happen when I ran dapper.....never figured that one out...
[12:51] <mneptok> Dormot: ;)
[12:51] <PhibreOptix> Well I gotta figure it out
[12:51] <PhibreOptix> Or none of my friends are gonna change from windows to Ubuntu >.<
[12:51] <un_operateur> jordo23, once at the terminal -- aptitude install firefox
[12:52] <Dormot> mneptok i got it
[12:52] <un_operateur> jordo23, then, outside the chroot -- dchroot -d "firefox"
[12:52] <barnabas> yeah my install freezes like that also
[12:52] <jordo23> un_operateur: with quotes?
[12:52] <un_operateur> jordo23, yep
[12:52] <un_operateur> jordo23, I need to do something quick .. be back in a few minutes ok
[12:53] <jordo23> un_operateur: that opened firefox...
[12:53] <jordo23> un_operateur: thanks...will be here...
[12:55] <Jowi> Enverex, did you try the installer?
[12:55] <Enverex> Jowi, For what?
[12:55] <Jowi> Enverex, a828
[12:56] <Enverex> Jowi, Yeah, it fails because you have to be using one of the exact versions it lists
[12:56] <Enverex> Jowi, I managed to get it to start compiling but it looks for kernel functions that don't exist in .17 so it fails :(
[12:56] <Jowi> Enverex, ah. any more details in the log?
[12:58] <grf> bry
[12:58] <Jowi> Enverex, should be /tmp/a828-install.log
[12:58] <Enverex> Jowi, ... oh, for the automated install you mean? No that fails outright because it tries to put it in the wrong place
[12:58] <Enverex> Jowi, and if you do it manually it doesn't work anyway becayse the mod doesn't match the kernel
[12:59] <barnabas> shame the developers nerfed the sudo terminal compile/install of custom kernels
[12:59] <Enverex> Jowi, compile log
[12:59] <Enverex> make -C /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic/ O=./ SUBDIRS=`pwd`
[12:59] <Enverex> make[1] : Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic'
[12:59] <Enverex>   LD      /home/enverex/src/a828-install/built-in.o
[12:59] <Enverex>   CC [M]   /home/enverex/src/a828-install/aver/osdep.o
[12:59] <Enverex>   CC [M]   /home/enverex/src/a828-install/a828-core.o
[12:59] <Enverex>   CC [M]   /home/enverex/src/a828-install/aver/osdep_usb.o
[12:59] <Enverex>   CC [M]   /home/enverex/src/a828-install/aver/osdep_dvb.o
[12:59] <Enverex> /home/enverex/src/a828-install/aver/osdep_dvb.c:88:20: error: dvbdev.h: No such file or directory
[12:59] <Jowi> Enverex, hmmm. ok. they say they welcome feedback regarding the module so maybe send them a "greeting" at http://www.avermedia.com/cgi-bin/support_faq_form-new.asp
[12:59] <Enverex> /home/enverex/src/a828-install/aver/osdep_dvb.c:89:19: error: demux.h: No such file or directory
[12:59] <Enverex> /home/enverex/src/a828-install/aver/osdep_dvb.c:90:23: error: dvb_demux.h: No such file or directory
[12:59] <Enverex> /home/enverex/src/a828-install/aver/osdep_dvb.c:92:24: error: dvb_filter.h: No such file or directory
[12:59] <Enverex> /home/enverex/src/a828-install/aver/osdep_dvb.c:93:21: error: dvb_net.h: No such file or directory
[12:59] <pebblestone> Hi, I have a question. I'm using Intel-based Mac. When I build some program using the 'configure' script it provides, the default gcc flag march is 'i386'. I think it might be too underrated. Where can I specify the default GCC flag? and Which is the optimal configuration do you think?
[12:59] <barnabas> couldn't you use pastebin for ur log?
[01:00] <NET||abuse> what can i use to play music, what's a good music app for ubuntu? amarok always gives me a ton of errors, kde stuff not available, dcop program not running, url error "file:///"  and sound engine not found, updating kde configuration...... what's the beef jerky with that??
[01:01] <barnabas> xmms
[01:01] <NET||abuse> xmms is discontinues as i've been told
[01:01] <NET||abuse> it's a dead project, so i suppose what can i use instead now?
[01:02] <OrTigaS> why vlc wont play rmvb files?
[01:02] <Music_Shuffle> !audio
[01:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:02] <Music_Shuffle> !banshee
[01:02] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[01:02] <NET||abuse> installing banshee to see what that's about
[01:03] <linuxero> hola enverex!
[01:04] <Music_Shuffle> Pick any NET||abuse
[01:05] <socorrista_ach> does anyone here speaks portuguese?
[01:05] <Enverex> Sorry about that
[01:05] <un_operateur> jordo23, i'm back
[01:05] <jordo23> un_operateur: me too...see my messages...
[01:05] <lupine_85> !pt
[01:05] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[01:05] <imhotepp> Hello, I have a problem with my .bash_profile not being automatically sourced when I log in, I have to manually issue the cmd "source ~/.bash_profile", anybody have a solution to this please?
[01:06] <jordo23> un_operateur: seems the chroot is fine, just cannot get konq to load....
[01:06] <socorrista_ach> quem falar a lingua portuguesa va a este site..ta porreiro..http://linuxval.free.fr/winlin/
[01:06] <un_operateur> jordo23, firefox working as expected?
[01:06] <Music_Shuffle> !portugues
[01:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about portugues - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:06] <Music_Shuffle> !portuguese
[01:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about portuguese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:06] <Music_Shuffle> ...
[01:06] <un_operateur> !pt
[01:06] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[01:06] <Azul> !french
[01:06] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:07] <jordo23> un_operateur: yeah.....works with Adobe flash and not gnash....works well...
[01:07] <socorrista_ach> #ubuntu-pt
[01:07] <Music_Shuffle> Wtf? :(
[01:07] <socorrista_ach> ??
[01:07] <un_operateur> jordo23, you wanna join #kde with me, we'll ask in there?
[01:07] <OrTigaS> why my dvd movies wont automatically play in VLC?
[01:07] <jordo23> un_operateur: already there....
[01:07] <Azul> how did you know it was portuguese?
[01:07] <un_operateur> jordo23, have you asked them yet?
[01:07] <Music_Shuffle> Azul, 'lingua portuguesa'? Lol
[01:07] <barnabas> need to associate the application to your files
[01:08] <jordo23> un_operateur: not really sure what to ask.....how to word it...
[01:08] <Azul> Music_Shuffle, oh, lol.. i didn't see it
[01:08] <Jowi> socorrista_ach, /join #ubuntu-pt
[01:08] <OrTigaS> am i ALIVE?
[01:08] <NET||abuse> banshee doesn't have a mini mode does it?
[01:08] <Music_Shuffle> No.
[01:08] <socorrista_ach> ya i know
[01:08] <un_operateur> jordo23, ok, let's step in there -- i'll ask on your behalf
[01:09] <socorrista_ach> but ubuntu pt does not exist only br
[01:09] <socorrista_ach> lol
[01:09] <NET||abuse> poo, i quite like mini mode like xmms or winamp
[01:09] <jordo23> un_operateur: Im in there.....thanks so much btw
[01:09] <barnabas> install winamp
[01:09] <socorrista_ach> Jowi i prefer here u guys already helped me a lot
[01:09] <OrTigaS> hmmm
[01:09] <Music_Shuffle> #ubuntu-pt does exist.
[01:09] <Music_Shuffle> I just joined it.
[01:09] <socorrista_ach> i cant...it says no such blah blah blah
[01:09] <OrTigaS> i think nobody see my question
[01:10] <cafuego_> OrTigaS: we all did, but it seems to not be an ubuntu problem
[01:10] <barnabas> OrTigaS you have to associate the files with the application
[01:11] <OrTigaS> oh ic.. but it recommend here to use VLC so i can play movies
[01:11] <cafuego_> oh, there's another q higher up? :-)
[01:11] <barnabas> yeah you can play movies with it
[01:11] <OrTigaS> how about rmbv?
[01:11] <Azul> i highly recomend mplayer for playing movies
[01:11] <barnabas> mplayer is better though
[01:11] <OrTigaS> wont play.. need plugins
[01:12] <Yeti_69> !french
[01:12] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:12] <socorrista_ach> i recommend xine
[01:12] <OrTigaS> i dont know where to get yet
[01:12] <Azul> i use mplayer even in winders
[01:12] <cafuego_> OrTigaS: System > Preferences > Removable drives & media > [Media] 
[01:12] <HymnToLife> Xine has really poor H.264 support
[01:12] <OrTigaS> okay let me try
[01:12] <cafuego_> OrTigaS: change the pref from totem to whatever vlc needs.
[01:12] <barnabas> need codecs is all
[01:12] <socorrista_ach> dl the codecs in synapse
[01:13] <socorrista_ach> xine is very cool with the right codecs
[01:15] <un_operateur> jordo23, seems like everyone's asleep there :(
[01:15] <jordo23> un_operateur: check this http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2005/07/msg00445.html
[01:15] <OrTigaS> how can i change the default dvd player to vlc?
[01:16] <OrTigaS> its in totem %m
[01:16] <socorrista_ach> properties
[01:16] <Ropechoborra> I installed weechat, how can i run it?
[01:16] <socorrista_ach> right mouse click
[01:16] <socorrista_ach> properties
[01:16] <Jowi> Ropechoborra, in a terminal type "weechat"
[01:17] <OrTigaS> okay i got it...
[01:17] <Ropechoborra> Jowi nothing happends
[01:17] <Jowi> Ropechoborra, sorry. "weechat-curses"
[01:17] <OrTigaS> what player can be use to play rmvb movies?
[01:18] <jordo23> un_operateur: Does the reply make any sense to you?
[01:18] <Ropechoborra> Jowi Thanks, but, how do i know wich one is the command? Sometimes when i install programs with the apt-get this usually happends
[01:18] <barnabas> you need the codecs
[01:18] <barnabas> the restricted ones
[01:18] <un_operateur> jordo23, for reference purposes .. can you !pastebin the contents of these two commands (in chroot) -- mount; cat /etc/fstab
[01:19] <un_operateur> jordo23, i'm reading as you do this
[01:19] <OrTigaS> okay... lets do this... where can i get the plugins of totem?
[01:20] <jordo23> un_operateur: How do I get back in chroot again?
[01:20] <barnabas> you can get easyubuntu and it'll install the totem stuff for ya
[01:20] <Jowi> Ropechoborra, usually just type the beginning of the name and press <tab>. like: wee<tab> should give you the full name. otherwise you can list what apt-get installed by typing "dpkg -L weechat-curses"
[01:21] <Ropechoborra> Ok, thanks!
[01:21] <Enverex> hmm, just realised that the forum has no Post Icon for someone looking annoyed
[01:21] <un_operateur> jordo23, ha ha .. make a file -- save it as /usr/bin/enter-chroot .. and enter these as it's contents -- #!/bin/bash   dchroot -d "bash"
[01:21] <christopher_l> somebody who can help me to fix my new keyboard, it's dead. Some info here: http://pastie.caboo.se/32564
[01:22] <un_operateur> jordo23, attn: they go on two lines ... after saving the file .. sudo chmod a+x /usr/bin/enter-chroot; enter-chroot
[01:22] <Azul> christopher_l,  get a new keyboard?
[01:23] <christopher_l> yes but first see if this can work
[01:23] <HymnToLife> christopher_l, delete all the wacom rubbish from your xorg.conf
[01:23] <christopher_l> HymnToLife: are u sure?
[01:23] <barnabas> i gotta mod my xorg file and see if this system will stop losing the screen
[01:24] <barnabas> thing is buggy
[01:24] <HymnToLife> you don't have a wacom, do you ?
[01:24] <harrisony> can anyone help me i have a bash script that logs into my sites ftp and uploads a file but i wanted to know is it possible to have the output off (like wget http://file.zip -s)
[01:24] <shinobi2> anyone know how to flip the output of this command? "banner vertical"?
[01:24] <christopher_l> I don't even know what it is
[01:24] <barnabas> how do you get the nvidia settings to open or is this nerfed in 6.10 also?
[01:24] <HymnToLife> delete all of them :) lines 76-104
[01:24] <ailean> Amaranth, you there?
[01:25] <Amaranth> ailean: what's up?
[01:25] <Jowi> christopher_l, it is a drawing pad
[01:25] <Amaranth> HymnToLife: wacom stuff does not hurt
[01:25] <Azul> christopher_l, borrow a keyboard and plug it in, see if it works
[01:25] <ailean> Amaranth, just wondering why your repo is wanting to remove my nvidia driver - do you know?
[01:25] <OrTigaS> how/where can get totem plugins?
[01:25] <Amaranth> HymnToLife: it's in there by default because it doesn't hurt but since wacom is serial you can't do hotplug
[01:26] <christopher_l> I have tested two other usb keyboards and it worked
[01:26] <Jowi> christopher_l, http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&q=wacom&btnG=Search+Images
[01:26] <un_operateur> shinobi2, almost -- banner vertical | perl -ne '$/=undef; print reverse split //, $_'
[01:26] <Amaranth> ailean: my repo is no longer maintained
[01:26] <harrisony> OrTigaS: totem is kinda dead i reccomend VLC or amarok
[01:26] <Azul> OrTigaS, synaptics maybe
[01:26] <Amaranth> !nvidia9 | ailean
[01:26] <ubotu> ailean: For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[01:26] <shinobi2> is there a way, like hold down shift key to prevent totem from booting reading my vcd?
[01:26] <OrTigaS> harrisony: wont play rmvb
[01:26] <Amaranth> harrisony: totem is _not_ dead
[01:26] <Amaranth> !mp3 | OrTigaS
[01:26] <ubotu> OrTigaS: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:26] <ailean> Amaranth, oh right - so if i replace your repo for that one things should be good?
[01:26] <jordo23> un_operateur: Is the second line how to enter chroot....cause that didn't work for me...
[01:26] <OrTigaS> its not mp3
[01:26] <Amaranth> ailean: yeah
[01:26] <harrisony> Amaranth: it isnt dead but....there are better players
[01:26] <OrTigaS> its movies
[01:27] <Amaranth> OrTigaS: that link is not for mp3
[01:27] <eCokeNCod> hey guys, the first login terminal (i.e alt f1) went bum, how do i restart that one without messing with any of the others ? it went bum right as i was typing in the username
[01:27] <ailean> Amaranth, thanks :)
[01:27] <eCokeNCod> just hung up
[01:27] <un_operateur> jordo23, yep -- second line should be  dchroot -d "bash"
[01:27] <Amaranth> OrTigaS: that's just the shortest command to trigger that factoid
[01:27] <shinobi2> un_operateur: don't work
[01:27] <OrTigaS> ah okay
[01:27] <OrTigaS> very fast didnt see :)
[01:27] <un_operateur> jordo23, errm, sorry, you'll need to invoke the command under sudo -- sudo enter-chroot
[01:27] <dejx> what do i must write for apt-get to install csh
[01:27] <dejx> apt-get install ? that package ?
[01:27] <Amaranth> eCokeNCod: if you login on another terminal then run 'sudo killall getty' it'll kill and restart all of them
[01:27] <eCokeNCod> can anyone help me out here ?
[01:28] <yakumo> can i shrink my mp3 128 kbps to 64 kbps using ffmpeg?
[01:28] <eCokeNCod> Amaranth this is a live system ... with hundreds of logins
[01:28] <harrisony> dejx: yeah
[01:28] <un_operateur> shinobi2, which way did you want to flip?
[01:28] <Amaranth> yakumo: you can but it'll sound horrible
[01:28] <dejx> harrisony ?
[01:28] <un_operateur> shinobi2, back to front - or upside down?
[01:28] <eCokeNCod> how do i know which getty is the first one ?
[01:28] <Amaranth> eCokeNCod: I wouldn't worry about tty1 going down then as long as the rest work
[01:28] <shinobi2> un_operateur: just want it horizontally
[01:28] <lupine_85> convert it to ogg instead :)
[01:28] <harrisony> sudo apt-get to install csh
[01:28] <yakumo> ogg how to??
[01:29] <harrisony> would work
[01:29] <Amaranth> eCokeNCod: but if you run 'ps -e' the one you're looking for will be something like ' 4304 tty1     00:00:00 getty'
[01:29] <dejx> harrisony no package found
[01:29] <lupine_85> yakumo: apt-get install mp32ogg
[01:29] <un_operateur> shinobi2, but it is already horizontally? did you mean vertically?
[01:29] <eCokeNCod> Amaranth i probably shouldn't, but I'm a bit of a perfectionist, and it's bugging me
[01:29] <shinobi2> un_operateur: horizontally, and use it as a title for
[01:29] <lupine_85> then mp32ogg <file?
[01:29] <yakumo> k thnks
[01:29] <lupine_85> erm, <file>
[01:29] <barnabas> lame i got a GPG error and i can't access the update
[01:29] <shinobi2> un_operateur: it looks like this on my computer
[01:29] <Amaranth> eCokeNCod: notice how it says tty1
[01:29] <dejx> i know how to use apt
[01:29] <dejx> but i dont know the name of package
[01:29] <jordo23> un_operateur:   that isn't right is it?
[01:30] <un_operateur> jordo23, sudo dchroot -d "bash"
[01:30] <harrisony> !universe | dejx
[01:30] <ubotu> dejx: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[01:30] <un_operateur> shinobi2, errm, !pastebin please
[01:30] <shinobi2> un_operateur: http://rafb.net/p/NDW63X96.html
[01:30] <eCokeNCod> Amaranth should i kill /sbin/mingetty tty1 ?
[01:30] <jordo23> un_operateur: Okay....Im there....now what again?
[01:31] <Amaranth> eCokeNCod: no you should find the pid of the getty process running on tty1
[01:31] <un_operateur> jordo23, for reference purposes .. can you !pastebin the contents of these two commands (in chroot) -- mount; cat /etc/fstab
[01:31] <un_operateur> shinobi2, hmm, it's horizontal for me tho :)
[01:31] <twiztr> anyone have problems with windows media playing, aptget automatix2
[01:31] <Amaranth> !automatix
[01:31] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:31] <Amaranth> !worksforme
[01:31] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[01:31] <shinobi2> un_operateur: ???what? why god !!!! why !!!
[01:32] <eCokeNCod> Amaranth i ran 'ps -ef | grep tty1' and got the PID of /sbin/mingetty/tty1 is that the process i should kill ?
[01:32] <un_operateur> shinobi2, this is how i see mine -- http://pastebin.ca/312999
[01:32] <jordo23> un_operateur: I didn't make the script....I know how to enter now. :)
[01:32] <eCokeNCod> or is there possibly something else related to tty1, because that the only process that's showing up
[01:32] <Amaranth> eCokeNCod: yes but you want 'sudo kill <that pid>'
[01:32] <twiztr> I retract my last mssg.
[01:32] <eCokeNCod> Amaranth why sudo, i'm already running as root
[01:33] <jordo23> un_operateur:   http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/856707
[01:33] <Amaranth> eCokeNCod: then you don't need sudo
[01:33] <zenwhen> why are you running as root
[01:33] <un_operateur> jordo23, errm, well, we all progressively get closer towards alzeimer's disease .. just make sure you dont forget :)
[01:33] <eCokeNCod> Amaranth ok, so run it then ?
[01:33] <eCokeNCod> kill that sucker
[01:33] <OrTigaS> where can i look the file i installed (like "VLC" )
[01:33] <GuerrillaWon>  xgl seems so have stopped my computer from freezing up but has made it really slow.
[01:33] <Amaranth> eCokeNCod: but you should know these things, you're the sysadmin for a server with hundreds of people using it
[01:33] <ailean> Amaranth, i replaced the repo and it STILL wants to remove it :|
[01:33] <GuerrillaWon> Anyone know the direction I should look to speed up my xgl sessions?
[01:33] <jordo23> un_operateur: I know I am going nuts right about now!
[01:33] <Amaranth> ailean: lupine_85 runs that repo
[01:34] <ailean> Amaranth, just saw that - i'm talking to lupine now :) thanks
[01:34] <Amaranth> ailean: I'm on feisty, I don't use it at all :)
[01:34] <shinobi2> un_operateur: can you "banner D C" and  "banner T S" for me on paste bin? and by the way, which version of banner you have?
[01:34] <ailean> Amaranth, i'd like to upgrade to feisty but don't want to do anything stupid :D
[01:34] <un_operateur> jordo23, here, read this -- it's where the trail ends -- so it sounds ok -- http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2005/07/msg00531.html
[01:34] <eCokeNCod> Amaranth thanks, it's fixed now
[01:34] <lupine_85>  "wait"
[01:34] <lupine_85> seriously
[01:35] <shinobi2> un_operateur: i have ubuntu 6.06, "man banner" says, banner(6) in 4/29/1995
[01:35] <Amaranth> ailean: you do _not_ want to be running feisty right now :P
[01:35] <eCokeNCod> Amaranth Rome wasn't built in a day, I'll get there...
[01:35] <eCokeNCod> thanks for the help guys
[01:35] <barnabas> !nvidia
[01:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:36] <ailean> Amaranth, prob not :)  I'll wait until it's a bit more stable.  I don't mind some bugs, but i can't risk wrecking my machine :D
[01:36] <jordo23> un_operateur: what does this mean?
[01:36] <Amaranth> ailean: Unless you have SATA everything it would probably all blow up
[01:37] <NET||abuse> ok, banshee is kinda basic,, does the job, but poo,, i liked xmms
[01:37] <un_operateur> shinobi2, here you go http://pastebin.ca/313001
[01:37] <NET||abuse> liked the interface,
[01:37] <ailean> Amaranth, i take it it's not going to stay that way...
[01:38] <Amaranth> ailean: of course not
[01:38] <un_operateur> jordo23, errm, it means we might like to try mounting those directories too via the real /etc/fstab
[01:38] <pty> NET||abuse: have you tried quod libet?
[01:38] <Amaranth> ailean: but it's got a 2.6.20rc kernel
[01:38] <un_operateur> jordo23, outside chroot -- sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[01:38] <NET||abuse> pty, quod libet... nope,, will have a look into that :) thanks
[01:38] <ailean> Amaranth, erm, which means?
[01:38] <shinobi2> un_operateur: can you make it two separate text please?
[01:38] <ailean> Amaranth, surely that's going to work on machines without SATA
[01:38] <un_operateur> shinobi2, can't you? :p
[01:38] <jordo23> un_operateur: okay...Im there
[01:39] <Amaranth> ailean: it is but it's not released yet
[01:39] <Amaranth> ailean: rc = release candidate
[01:39] <pty> NET||abuse: a lot of people seem to like exaile too; I haven't tried it yet though
[01:40] <ailean> Amaranth, yeah, but when it's finished it'll support more than SATA, yeah?
[01:40] <Amaranth> ailean: for the 3rd time, yes
[01:40] <shinobi2> un_operateur: i suppose i can, but need to read more man pages to fix the text =)
[01:40] <un_operateur> jordo23, sorry, forgot, you need the name of the directories on your system .. ls -l /var/tmp/kdecache*
[01:40] <ailean> Amaranth, sorry
[01:41] <Lurner> hey folks , last night before bed I adjusted the size of my video , that locked the comuputer so badly that I had to power down.. this morning it won't accept my password
[01:41] <shinobi2> un_operateur: you are not running ubuntu are you? your man page is 1997, mine is 1995
[01:41] <Lurner> I've got dsl up and running and I'm inspecting the hard drive
[01:41] <Lurner> what do I need to do to unlock the system ?
[01:41] <un_operateur> shinobi2, well, to be really honest, i am using the debian version of sysvbanner at Version: 1.0-12
[01:42] <GuerrillaWon> Is there anyway to tell which linux-restricted-modules-amd64 I need? Wither the K8/Xeon/Generic?
[01:42] <jordo23> un_operateur: make sense?
[01:42] <GuerrillaWon> I'm trying to install my nvidia drivers.
[01:42] <NET||abuse> pty: don't see exaile in ubuntu apt repo's
[01:42] <Jowi> Lurner, reboot into ubuntu in rescue mode. that will give you an opportunity to check your user.
[01:42] <jordo23> un_operateur: still have fstab open ready to edit...
[01:42] <Amaranth> GuerrillaWon: the one that goes with the linux-image you have installed
[01:43] <GuerrillaWon> Amaranth Anyway to tell? I thought it was just the amd64 image.
[01:43] <Lurner> OK.. I'll try that
[01:43] <GuerrillaWon> Didn't notice it going into any subcatagories.
[01:43] <Amaranth> GuerrillaWon: `uname -r`
[01:43] <un_operateur> jordo23, hmm, i noticed the normal user doesnt have a cache directory in there .. bahh
[01:43] <pty> NET||abuse: .debs are here: http://www.exaile.org/trac/wiki/Releases
[01:43] <nickmcm> GuerrillaWon: type uname -r into a terminal
[01:43] <jordo23> un_operateur: meaning?
[01:43] <GuerrillaWon> doh! ok I knew that. My apologies for occasionally being the clueless noob. Thanks.
[01:44] <un_operateur> jordo23, errm that we cant continue here .. ok, nevermind, close that file for now
[01:44] <un_operateur> jordo23, and paste the contents of the real /etc/fstab
[01:44] <nickmcm> GuerrillaWon: how do you think i know :), nothing wrong with asking, good look with the drivers
[01:44] <hnsn> where can i read about the commercial (non-FOSS) aspects of KDE ?
[01:45] <GuerrillaWon> Thanks, I'm gonna need it.
[01:45] <hnsn> also, i like bratwurst
[01:45] <IRCMonkey> hi
[01:45] <hnsn> y0
[01:46] <hnsn> do u also like bratwurst?
[01:46] <AD_> !
[01:46] <shinobi2> un_operateur: i just synaptic sysvbanner, how do i run it? banner test did not work, still running the old one. also, a week ago, i synaptic search banner but it did not return sysvbanner strange
[01:46] <Jowi> hnsn, http://www.trolltech.com/ is a good way to start
[01:47] <hnsn> ok jowi
[01:47] <un_operateur> shinobi2, you can download it at http://packages.debian.org
[01:47] <jordo23> un_operateur: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/856712 same file as in gedit right?
[01:47] <Amaranth> hnsn: KDE is open source, Qt (the main library KDE uses) is GPL but you can buy a license to use it with a closed-source program
[01:48] <lupine_85> urgh. but who'd want to do that? ;)
[01:48] <un_operateur> jordo23, err, yea, sorry lol -- my mind's all over the place now
[01:48] <Amaranth> lupine_85: No comment
[01:48] <constrictor> anyone using edgy as a server?
[01:48] <lupine_85> :D
[01:49] <lupine_85> constrictor: I'm on dapper on my servers
[01:49] <hnsn> Amaranth: tnx
[01:49] <constrictor> maybe you  can help
[01:49] <lupine_85> mostly because I don't trust edgy on them
[01:49] <IRCMonkey> what bout server?
[01:49] <lupine_85> maybe
[01:49] <IRCMonkey> i'm running ubutnu as server
[01:49] <lupine_85> sup?
[01:49] <constrictor> i just installed the edgy LAMP stack on my network, to serve intranet pages. I am not able to resolve to it with it's name however
[01:50] <emo> I have problems to set up my wireless any able to give me a help, I have signal in my wireless card however I don't have access the problem starts after I set up my password.
[01:50] <constrictor> anytime i have to connect to it i have to use it's ip address
[01:50] <jordo23> un_operateur: I hear ya....
[01:51] <IRCMonkey> I got LAMP here too
[01:52] <IRCMonkey> np yet
[01:52] <constrictor> IRCMonkey: are you able to resolve to it with it's hostname or ip address?
[01:52] <emo> so I can use withou password but when I put one the problem happen...
[01:52] <IRCMonkey> iMy is just a home server , not registered
[01:52] <IRCMonkey> :)
[01:53] <un_operateur> jordo23, add a new line like this to /etc/fstab #/var/tmp /var/chroot/var/tmp none bind 0 0
[01:53] <constrictor> ah ok
[01:53] <constrictor> well thanks anyways
[01:53] <IRCMonkey> np
[01:53] <sexcopter8000> just getting wine using the repository from wine itself, but gives the GPG key warning. Is there a key I can add? (can't find it on winehq)
[01:53] <IRCMonkey> sex downloading wine from site?
[01:54] <IRCMonkey> y not from synaptic?
[01:54] <jordo23> un_operateur: with the #sign?
[01:54] <un_operateur> jordo23, err no.. sorry
[01:54] <un_operateur> jordo23, dunno where the # came from ..
[01:54] <Jowi> sexcopter8000, check in #winehq
[01:55] <sexcopter8000> Jowi: good idea, thanks
[01:55] <IRCMonkey> sexcopter8000:  hi
[01:55] <IRCMonkey> sexcopter8000:  apt-get install xwine
[01:56] <jordo23> un_operateur: ok....anything else to that file?
[01:57] <sexcopter8000> IRCMonkey: that package isn't there for me
[01:57] <IRCMonkey> sexcopter8000:  add repos.
[01:57] <un_operateur> jordo23, none for now .. save the file and run this command  -- sudo mount -a
[01:58] <shinobi2> un_operateur: hey, it works, after a REBOOT, strange
[01:58] <jordo23> un_operateur: okay....ran it
[01:58] <Jowi> IRCMonkey, sexcopter8000 has added repos. it's the PGP key for it (s)he want.
[01:58] <sexcopter8000> IRCMonkey: I have, how else would I have the GPG error?
[01:58] <un_operateur> jordo23, give it a try now -- dchroot -d konqueror
[01:59] <sexcopter8000> oh, PGP, my mistake
[01:59] <IRCMonkey> adding repos. got nothing do with gpg error
[01:59] <marco_> Should I use EXA instead XAA ?
[01:59] <NET||abuse> hmm, exaile is looking for mutagen.oggvorbis and hits an error :(
[01:59] <jordo23> un_operateur: with quotes around konqueror or none?
[01:59] <IRCMonkey> or PGP
[01:59] <Jowi> sexcopter8000, GPG/PGP same thing (almost)
[01:59] <jordo23> un_operateur: does it matter?
[01:59] <un_operateur> jordo23, try both
[02:00] <un_operateur> jordo23, not really, but worth a shot in the dark :)
[02:00] <sexcopter8000> oh, wait a sec
[02:00] <Jowi> IRCMonkey, yes it does. all repos have an option to be validated
[02:00] <jordo23> un_operateur: IT OPENED!!!
[02:00] <IRCMonkey> not ehre :)
[02:00] <Jowi> sexcopter8000, it is only a warning. you can add the key if you wish but it is not enforced in any way.
[02:01] <IRCMonkey> here*
[02:01] <sexcopter8000> think I have it. I had the dapper section from a previous install, changed the source line to edge and it seems happy now!
[02:01] <jordo23> jordo23: now just install flash?
[02:01] <sexcopter8000> err, for edge ready edgy
[02:01] <sexcopter8000> and for ready read read
[02:01] <sexcopter8000> lol
[02:01] <IRCMonkey> sexcopter8000:  winehq.com clearly states to add there repos. for ubuntu
[02:01] <IRCMonkey> then download wine
[02:01] <un_operateur> jordo23, and works? :o
[02:02] <jordo23> un_operateur: now I am losing my mind... :)  I think the correct konq opened.....how to tell....all of my bookmarks and stuff are there....
[02:02] <sexcopter8000> IRCMonkey: I really don't think you're following what I'm doing, but it's ok it's working now
[02:02] <IRCMonkey> oh ok
[02:02] <IRCMonkey> sorry
[02:02] <IRCMonkey> :)
[02:02] <un_operateur> jordo23, lol, i have _NO_ idea =))
[02:02] <un_operateur> jordo23, maybe in -- HELP > ABOUT
[02:03] <jordo23> un_operateur: doesn't really say.....do I have to install flash to it?
[02:03] <IRCMonkey> later guys
[02:04] <IRCMonkey> cya all
[02:04] <un_operateur> jordo23, errm, you'll need to install flash inside the chroot now .. and link it up with konqueror and firefox
[02:04] <||arifaX> is it possible to change the color of the entire console eg. to red when "sudo su" is invoked and same thing for commands executed with "sudo [command] " ??
[02:04] <jordo23> un_operateur: firefox works because I installed flash from within the browser.....which version should I download?
[02:05] <un_operateur> jordo23, it's upto you .. if i were you, i'd use flash 9 from adobe
[02:05] <jordo23> un_operateur: Shouldn't the same flash .so file for Firefox work? Can I just find that one?
[02:06] <un_operateur> jordo23, it should, but you might need the .xpt file that accompanies the .so too
[02:06] <jordo23> un_operateur: One wierd thing is that Konqueror won't scan for plugins....
[02:07] <un_operateur> jordo23, guess you will have to spoon feed it then
[02:07] <TheShepherd> I can't run alsaconf, does anyone know why it is? every alsa packet I could conceive is already installed
[02:07] <jordo23> un_operateur: I don't know another way to install the plugin....this does however verify that it is a new copy of konqueror running...
[02:07] <Jowi> TheShepherd, asoundconf
[02:08] <un_operateur> jordo23, wanna try flash 9 out?
[02:09] <TheShepherd> thanks
[02:09] <GuerrillaWon> I suffered a freeze/chrash when I was installing some packages, I don't remember which. Is there a way I can find and clean up bothed installations?
[02:09] <burepe> what does a dns server do for a Lamp server? Do I need it?
[02:09] <GuerrillaWon> bothed/botched
[02:09] <GuerrillaWon> Thanks for the driver help, it appears to be working perfectly *crosses fingers*
[02:10] <jordo23> un_operateur:  That's what I should have just downloaded....but Konq wont find the plugin unless it's able to scan for it....unless you know of another way...
[02:10] <un_operateur> jordo23, in the chroot --  cd /tmp; wget http://www.adobe.com/go/fp9_update_b2_installer_linuxplugin
[02:10] <yakumo> anyone know how to set save location on openoffice
[02:11] <Jowi> GuerrillaWon, the logs might give you a hint "cat /var/log/dpkg.log"
[02:11] <jordo23> un_operateur: okay....downloaded that inside the chroot...
[02:11] <un_operateur> jordo23, after that -- tar zxvf FP9_plugin_beta_112006.tar.gz .. and the .so file should exist in  /tmp/flash-player-plugin-9.0.21.78
[02:12] <OrTigaS> how can i update totem?
[02:12] <un_operateur> jordo23, best you copy the .so file into another location -- because /tmp is cleaned out regularly, you dont want the .so file disappearing from underneath konq
[02:13] <stefg> OrTigaS: Totem is just a frontend to either gstreamer or xinelibs. Not much use using a different version than the one which came with your gnome
[02:13] <jordo23> un_operateur: Where should I copy it to.....does it have to be inside the chroot?
[02:13] <OrTigaS> because it wont play rmvb
[02:14] <TheShepherd> The webpage I am following to get sound working tells me "you need to give the model=asus-parameter to the alsa-module" but I don't know how to do that, is there a configuration file?
[02:14] <un_operateur> jordo23, ohh yes .. best copied into konqueror's own plugins directory - i think that is /usr/lib/konqueror/plugins
[02:14] <jordo23> un_operateur: inside the chroot though?
[02:15] <stefg> OrTigaS: Consider installing vlc. My setup is: Totem for the simple stuff, vlc for the advanced stuff (like streaming DVB over the network to my lappe)
[02:15] <un_operateur> jordo23, yes yes yes :) because the chrooted konqueror cannot look outside the chroot at all
[02:15] <gandalfcome> need help with dual screen setup on ati. mouse position offset. help appreciated
[02:15] <OrTigaS> vlc wont play rmvb tooo
[02:15] <christopher_l> I change my xorg.conf file in /etc/X11, when i restarted Ubuntu it will not start because I changed it. Im now on the livecd. How can I access my files from here?
[02:15] <stefg> OrTigaS: what is rmvb?
[02:16] <OrTigaS> its play in real player
[02:16] <christopher_l> I must change it back
[02:16] <OrTigaS> its like that
[02:16] <jordo23> un_operateur: I don't show that dir....says not found....
[02:17] <un_operateur> jordo23, errm, ls -l /usr/lib/konq*
[02:17] <stefg> OrTigaS: then either install realplayer (if you have to) or get w32codecs package, which has the real codecs, too IIRC
[02:17] <jordo23> un_operateur: no such file/dir
[02:17] <stefg> !codecs | OrTigaS
[02:17] <ubotu> OrTigaS: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:17] <Jowi> christopher_l, open a terminal and type "sudo -i". "mkdir /mylinux" to create a directory. mount your partition "mount /dev/nameofyourpartition /mylinux". "cd /mylinux" to go there. to find out what partition you need to mount chech the output of "fdisk -l"
[02:18] <OrTigaS> thanks
[02:18] <deepbluegene> hi. i had installed xammp on ubuntu but now when i started my system xammp is not there. i could not even find it on my system .please help
[02:18] <un_operateur> jordo23, ahh well, make a plugins folder for all browsers then -- mkdir /usr/lib/browsers/plugins
[02:19] <snail> does anyone know where i'd find out whether there were plans to release second life for ubuntu now it's open source?
[02:19] <un_operateur> jordo23, then copy the .so into it .. and have konqueror scan that folder
[02:19] <mena> How to make the ubuntu choose bettween one resloution not more
[02:19] <Jowi> snail, you can download the installer from their homepage
[02:20] <Jowi> snail, i downloaded it and installed it. it works. i haven't created an account yet though. not sure i want to :)
[02:20] <stefg> mena, can you rephrase the question, so it gets clear what you want to acchiev?
[02:20] <mena> stefg, ok
[02:20] <francalier> hi guys i'm having problems running microsoft bob in wine
[02:21] <snail> Jowi: i'll check it out
[02:21] <jordo23> un_operateur: That's the last problem....Konqueror wont scan my new dir because it states that the nspluginscan executable cannot be found...
[02:21] <mena> stefg, i mean that the ubuntu some times log me in deffrent resolution i didnt want ....but i resart its log me in in the resolution i need, if you didnt understand tell me
[02:22] <mena> sorry my english not verry good
[02:22] <un_operateur> jordo23, ok, outside the chroot, locate the file -- locate nsplugin
[02:23] <stefg> Mena: So your *video*-resolution is switching around? You have a different res. in the login window (gdm) than on your user desktop?
[02:24] <yakumo> anyone here have install frostwire4.13.1
[02:24] <yakumo> anyone here have install frostwire4.13.1
[02:24] <jordo23> un_operateur:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1152/  (ALMOST THERE!!!)
[02:24] <yakumo> anyone here have install frostwire4.13.1 on edgy??
[02:25] <jordo23> un_operateur: then I am going to bitch at adobe on the flash linux blog
[02:25] <stefg> !repeat | yakumo
[02:25] <ubotu> yakumo: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:25] <mena> stefg, no when they are switched they are the same ....but its log me in resolution 800x600 and i want that only 1024x768
[02:25] <stefg> !fixres | mena
[02:25] <ubotu> mena: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:25] <un_operateur> jordo23, ha ha.. thats a lot, let's filter out and make it more specific -- locate nspluginscan
[02:25] <mena> stefg, okay thanks very much i will see it
[02:26] <jordo23> un_operateur: output states its in /usr/bin/nspluginscan
[02:26] <yakumo> ok
[02:27] <jordo23> un_operateur: line 22
[02:27] <veronx> witam :)
[02:27] <jordo23> un_operateur: right?
[02:27] <un_operateur> jordo23, k, cool,   sudo cp /usr/bin/nspluginscan /var/chroot/usr/bin/
[02:28] <jordo23> un_operateur: ok
[02:29] <stefg> Mena, if you are francophone try #ubuntu-fr
[02:29] <stefg> !fr
[02:29] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:29] <francalier> i am a francophobe
[02:29] <mena> stefg, ok
[02:30] <mneptok> mena: allez-vous au #ubuntu-qc :)
[02:30] <jordo23> un_operateur: it wont scan the dir completely /usr/lib/browsers/plugins
[02:30] <mena> mneptok, i am not french
[02:30] <jordo23> un_operateur: I don't think it can see the dir
[02:30] <entel> www.alboradanewage.com it open?
[02:30] <christopher_l> Jowi: when I typed fdisk -l, I got:
[02:30] <christopher_l> Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[02:30] <francalier> I got it
[02:30] <christopher_l> /dev/hda1   *           1        3495    28073556   83  Linux
[02:30] <christopher_l> /dev/hda2            3496        3648     1228972+   5  Extended
[02:30] <christopher_l> /dev/hda5            3496        3648     1228941   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[02:30] <mena> mneptok, thanks any way
[02:30] <christopher_l> I then typed:  mount /dev/hda1/mylinux but get error: mount: can't find /dev/hda1/mylinux in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:31] <un_operateur> jordo23, ok, let's get this done right them -- !pastebin -- dpkg -L konqueror
[02:31] <facugaich> gaim closes itself after it succesfully connects to MSN, help?
[02:31] <Jowi> christopher_l, "mount /dev/hda1 /mylinux" (there's a space there between hda1 and /mylinux)
[02:31] <stefg> facugaich: try #gaim ?
[02:31] <jordo23> un_operateur: in or out of chroot?
[02:32] <un_operateur> jordo23, errm, it doesnt matter -- i'm looking for the usual plugins directory konq uses
[02:32] <mena> Thanks For HElp Freinds ..GOd Bless YOu
[02:33] <jordo23> un_operateur: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1153/
[02:33] <facugaich> stefg: thanks, I'll try
[02:34] <un_operateur> jordo23, i'm bushed and hungry now :)
[02:34] <un_operateur> jordo23, and still this is proving to be elusive .. grrrrr :)
[02:34] <jordo23> un_operateur: You are truely a god helping me with this...thanks!
[02:34] <dcordes> un_operateur: you are bushed?
[02:34] <jordo23> un_operateur: almost there....
[02:34] <un_operateur> dcordes, never heard of the term ?
[02:34] <dcordes> jordo23: operateur makes a lot of support in here
[02:35] <dcordes> un_operateur: no, it makes me think of the president of the usa
[02:35] <dcordes> like now i'm pissed=bushed
[02:35] <un_operateur> dcordes, ha ha .. nice one .. well, almost -- bushed = tired out
[02:35] <dcordes> un_operateur: ok ^^
[02:36] <christopher_l> Jowi: Thanks it worked
[02:36] <christopher_l> now I restart
[02:37] <un_operateur> jordo23, errm, damn, can't find it in here -- when you usuall get konq scanning for plugins -- does it tell you where it found them?
[02:38] <itanshi> i've no idea how to get wirless to work on edgy eft, i've ipw2200 etc, says i have an IP, but no connection
[02:38] <jordo23> un_operateur: You can specify any dir for it to search....
[02:38] <jordo23> un_operateur: I can specify ten dirs if I want to...
[02:38] <itanshi> i've tried and downloaded many things like networ manager, which i can't even find to open
[02:38] <un_operateur> jordo23, and it fails here?
[02:38] <un_operateur> jordo23, are you sure the plugin was placed in that dir?
[02:39] <madcheeze> hey guys
[02:39] <madcheeze> im back with some issues
[02:39] <BushedCordes> madcheeze: you're welcome
[02:40] <BushedCordes> madcheeze: are you the person who had problems installing the system?
[02:40] <un_operateur> lol BushedCordes =))
[02:40] <persia> Could anyone help me with initial configuration of lvm2?
[02:40] <madcheeze> ok, i installed a new kernel on top of 6.10, straight to i think 6.10.27 from 6.10.17 and all i get is a kernel panic
[02:40] <BushedCordes> ah the kernel guy
[02:40] <madcheeze> BushedCordes: no, i had issues with kernel updates
[02:40] <jordo23> un_operateur: I am certain....I also copied the flash.so file to my chroots home jordo23 dir and tried to have it search for it there...
[02:41] <madcheeze> BushedCordes: i got it to update, but i get a kernel panic now... and i cant get it to boot
[02:41] <BushedCordes> madcheeze: only when you want to boot the newly installed kernel or does that also apply to your other kernel?
[02:41] <jordo23> un_operateur: It finds the dir, but search meter stops at 5% each time and wont continue...
[02:41] <madcheeze> BushedCordes: the old kernel boots and runs, but i cant use wireless..
[02:41] <BushedCordes> madcheeze: ok. you allready tried reinstalling?
[02:41] <BushedCordes> (the kernel package)
[02:42] <madcheeze> BushedCordes: no, how do i do that?
[02:42] <jordo23> un_operateur: oddly enough the gnash plugin is still listed....how is that possible?
[02:42] <BushedCordes> madcheeze: simply look in synaptic for the right package
[02:43] <madcheeze> BushedCordes: also, i dont think i know exactly how to install kernel development so i can alter items..
[02:43] <persia> nevermind: needed modprobe.  Good day.
[02:43] <un_operateur> jordo23, errm, are you  sure you are interrogating the right instance of konqueror there?
[02:43] <Przemcio78> deleting /tmp didn't help
[02:43] <un_operateur> deleting /tmp ? :o why why why?
[02:43] <facugaich> What's the file that manages repositories' servers?
[02:44] <madcheeze> BushedCordes: do i need to just do the headers or does it do the same thing?
[02:44] <jordo23> un_operateur: I am opening it by alt-f2 dchroot -d konqueror and it opens...
[02:44] <aorenes> salut
[02:44] <hgilibert> yo
[02:44] <aorenes> sa va bien?
[02:44] <stefg> madcheeze: so you tried to build your /own/ kernel and install that, it's not that a ubuntu-kernel-update hosed your box?
[02:44] <madcheeze> BushedCordes: no, i used a supplied kernel
[02:45] <hgilibert> yo
[02:45] <hgilibert> IG1!
[02:45] <madcheeze> BushedCordes: doh, i know why, i insalled the 2.4.27 kernel
[02:45] <BushedCordes> madcheeze: you were talking to stefg i guess. then you go straight to synaptic and make a search for that kernel
[02:45] <madcheeze> BushedCordes: daaaaaaaamn
[02:45] <Przemcio78> i'll try to create a new user and see if the problem is there too
[02:45] <madcheeze> BushedCordes: im such an idiot sometimes
[02:45] <madcheeze> BushedCordes: i will need help altering my grub... once i get a new kernel
[02:46] <mikelo> !studio
[02:46] <BushedCordes> madcheeze: nah you most likely will not have to change your grub when you only try a reinstall
[02:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about studio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:46] <jordo23> un_operateur: It's like when starting through dchroot -d konqueror it's pulling the old konqueror or something...
[02:46] <mikelo> !ubuntustudio
[02:46] <ubotu> ubuntustudio is a site is for the musician who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation, at  http://www.ubuntustudio.com. Or visit  #ubuntu-studio
[02:46] <un_operateur> jordo23, ahh well, try this outside the chroot -- sudo cp -Rv /var/chroot/usr/lib/firefox/plugins /var/chroot/usr/lib/firefox/plugins.bak; sudo cp /usr/lib/firefox/plugins var/chroot/usr/lib/firefox
[02:46] <NET||abuse> hey guys, i've just plugged a monitor into my vga out port on my laptop, it's cloning the desktop for the minute, but how do i change that on the fly so i can extend my desktop onto it? i'm on a radeon 7500 mobility
[02:47] <stefg> madcheeze: or boot the Live-CD, mount your installed system, chroot into the system and do an apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade from within the chroot. That should restore the newest kernel and let you boot again
[02:47] <itanshi> ok i could use a bit of help ^^ i got wifiradar working and it 'could not find ip address' i set it to auto when i could and dhcp, what's the key?
[02:47] <madcheeze> BushedCordes: is there a later kernel than 2.6.17.10?
[02:47] <un_operateur> jordo23, yea, that could be because the plugin is already loaded into memory and since there's a single KDE instance, the chrooted app can see it too
[02:47] <rocknroll> how can I play DVD movies in Ubuntu?
[02:47] <FaithX> How do I get a 2.6.20 kernel?
[02:47] <madcheeze> rocknroll: check out libdvdcss
[02:48] <un_operateur> jordo23, once you have copied the files across, get the chrooted konq to scan the /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[02:48] <rocknroll> madcheeze: Thanks, testing now
[02:48] <stefg> FaithX: by inventing a time machine and warping a month into the future :-)
[02:48] <Przemcio78> Juhaz: i deleted /tmp and try with a new user, but the window is still there
[02:48] <BushedCordes> madcheeze: your package manager allways installs the latest kernel there is for ubuntu
[02:48] <Przemcio78> tried*
[02:48] <madcheeze> BushedCordes: why do i not have wireless then?
[02:48] <NET||abuse> anyone know how to reconfigure the display settings to run extended desktop onto a second screen? is there a way to do it without hacking the xorg.conf file everytime?
[02:48] <cappiz> someone ever got this error from opera:
[02:48] <pike_> !kernel| FaithX
[02:48] <ubotu> FaithX: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[02:48] <cappiz> Runtime link error - it appears that libXt got loaded before libXm,
[02:48] <stefg> !wifi | madcheeze
[02:48] <cappiz> which is not allowed.
[02:48] <ubotu> madcheeze: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:49] <cappiz> ?
[02:49] <itanshi> wifi docs didn't help me, sorry
[02:49] <jordo23> un_operateur: Still stops at 5%
[02:49] <tomix> can anyone tell me how i find out which /dev/XXXX my mobile phone is placed under?
[02:49] <kane77> BushedCordes: well.. for the version you use... kernel for dapper is a bit older...
[02:49] <cappiz> dmesg
[02:49] <cappiz> ?
[02:49] <un_operateur> jordo23, ohh no, the files werent copied yet ...
[02:49] <madcheeze> stefg: sorry, maybe i should explain, my wireless comes up in the network section, but i cant connect
[02:49] <un_operateur> jordo23, sudo sh -c "rm -rf /var/chroot/usr/lib/firefox/plugins; cp -Rv /usr/lib/firefox/plugins /var/chroot/usr/lib/firefox"
[02:50] <tomix> cappiz: cheers will give that a go
[02:50] <BushedCordes> madcheeze: you are using edgy, right?
[02:50] <madcheeze> yep
[02:50] <madcheeze> BushedCordes: yep
[02:50] <Dimensions> hiya ... any one there for Help in installing Ubuntu on Mac mini ? i have downloaded boot camp beta and did partitioning ... but i donno how to install ubutnu on it now ... when i boot rEFit downloaded and boots into it ... online tutorial say after this copy GPT partitioning map into MBR but when i go there it says tables is updated no need to sync ...
[02:50] <madcheeze> BushedCordes: i had it working before,
[02:50] <madcheeze> BushedCordes: on edgy
[02:50] <itanshi> madcheese: you have wifiradar? we may share the same issue then
[02:50] <stefg> madcheeze: does your wlan require encryption?
[02:50] <madcheeze> stefg: no it doesnt
[02:51] <un_operateur> jordo23, seems like it copied them now
[02:51] <rocknroll> VideoLan would not play DVDs....
[02:51] <madcheeze> stefg: straight dhcp
[02:51] <jordo23> un_operateur: Does that look right?
[02:51] <un_operateur> jordo23, yep
[02:51] <stefg> madcheeze: then it can be a firmware issue, or the router not understanding the dhcp request from your wlan-adapter
[02:52] <madcheeze> stefg: what program should i run to get it to connect?
[02:52] <stefg> madcheeze: what's the name of your wlan interface?
[02:52] <jordo23> un_operateur: nspluginscan still stops at 5%
[02:52] <madcheeze> stefg: the nic?
[02:53] <jordo23> un_operateur: could this be permissions?
[02:53] <Dimensions> no one knows how to install Ubuntu ????
[02:53] <itanshi> hmm
[02:53] <jordo23> un_operateur: Probably not because should be root...
[02:53] <un_operateur> jordo23, what does this say -- dpkg -S `which nspluginscan`
[02:53] <madcheeze> Dimensions: yes, but i am dealing with a problem on my own, can you wait a few?
[02:53] <riotkittie> Dimensions: not on a mac mini, i dont :P
[02:53] <stefg> madcheeze: the wired interfaces are notmally called eth[1-9] , but the wireless interfaces have different names for different wlan adapters
[02:53] <mikelo> does ubuntu work with usb midi keyboards too??
[02:54] <madcheeze> stefg: how do i tell what i am using? i cant even configure it...
[02:54] <Dimensions> grrr ...
[02:54] <pike_> Dimensions: not familiar with mac but try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation if you havent already in the meantime
[02:54] <madcheeze> Dimensions: i would guess its like a pc, put the bootable cd rom in, and boot off of it and install it
[02:54] <stefg> madcheeze: you need access to your ubuntu-system first. Sort out the kernel trouble first
[02:54] <un_operateur> jordo23, i dont think it is permissions .. probably because nspluginscan depends on something else we didnt copy into the chroot
[02:55] <cstextiles> I need to download Sun Java Package for my I386 machine So which files need to be downloaded out of the file listed at http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/s/sun-java5/
[02:55] <madcheeze> stefg: i dont have kernel trouble, how do i access my kernel?
[02:55] <madcheeze> stefg: trhats what i am missing so i can configure it
[02:55] <stefg> madcheeze: you said your box won't bot
[02:55] <madcheeze> stefg: it boots on the right kernel, i was trying to boot an old kernel and didnt realize it until just a few minutes ago
[02:56] <Dimensions> ummmz...
[02:56] <Franky_> hello
[02:56] <Popo1> Hi, I used Edgy Eft 64-Bits, when I try to install a precompiled aplication I get this error:  error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory --- I have that librarie on /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0, I guess there is a problem with the path, but I don't know how to fix, can somedody help me?
[02:56] <stefg> madcheeze: so you are on your installed system now, running one of the 2.6.17 edgy kernels?
[02:56] <BushedCordes> madcheeze: oh you should say so. i was wasting my time looking for an answer to your kernel question
[02:56] <lupine_85> Popo1: is it an amd64 or i386 app?
[02:56] <Popo1> i386 app
[02:56] <BushedCordes> madcheeze: you can paste the output of lspci
[02:56] <lupine_85> if the latter, you need to install the 32bit libraries
[02:56] <tomix> cappiz: didnt seem to have any information relating to that, any idea what i should be looking for?
[02:56] <madcheeze> BushedCordes: sorry, i thought i did...
[02:57] <lupine_85> since the system is looking in /usr/lib32
[02:57] <Franky_> I have a problem with my video each time I play anything the computer freezes. I am running Ubuntu 6.10 with all the codecs installed (including win32 ...)
[02:57] <madcheeze> stefg: my kernel is running 2.6.17.10
[02:57] <jordo23> un_operateur: (Running inside chroot?
[02:57] <lupine_85> usually it's better to use a chroot
[02:57] <madcheeze> stefg: i just need access to configure my etho
[02:57] <BushedCordes> madcheeze: nevermind. give me the lspci output, then i can tell you what wireless lan chipset you are using and we install the right drivers then
[02:57] <madcheeze> BushedCordes: lspci?
[02:57] <Twiztr> How do I run a program as a diffrent user, on the command line?
[02:57] <BushedCordes> madcheeze: yep in a terminal
[02:57] <stefg> madcheeze: than open a terminal, type 'ifconfig' and paste the utput to pastebin (as linked in /topic)
[02:57] <un_operateur> jordo23, I have a better idea -- in the chroot -- aptitude purge firefox; aptitude install konqueror-nsplugins firefox totem-mozilla
[02:57] <jordo23> dpkg -S `which nspluginscan` run this inside chroot or outside?
[02:58] <BushedCordes> !paste | madcheeze
[02:58] <ubotu> madcheeze: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[02:58] <un_operateur> jordo23, never mind now
[02:58] <pike_> Twiztr: one way: su - username -c "command to run"
[02:58] <madcheeze> BushedCordes: prowireless 3954abg network
[02:58] <BushedCordes> hmmm
[02:58] <Twiztr> Awesome.
[02:58] <pike_> Twiztr: you need the quotes
[02:58] <BushedCordes> that's intel
[02:58] <Twiztr> pike_: thanks
[02:58] <pike_> np
[02:58] <un_operateur> jordo23, this command ought to install the konq plugins and whatever else you need to be shared between konq and firefox
[02:58] <madcheeze> BushedCordes: yep
[02:59] <madcheeze> BushedCordes: it works if i get access to my kernel
[02:59] <BushedCordes> madcheeze: paste the output of ifconfig as stefg said
[02:59] <Popo1> ok, i'll try to install those libs
[02:59] <jordo23> un_operateur: which command?
[02:59] <Twiztr> how do I get command "mount /dev/hdb1" to run when I boot up?
[02:59] <madcheeze> BushedCordes: two diff computers
[02:59] <un_operateur> jordo23,  aptitude purge firefox; aptitude install konqueror-nsplugins firefox totem-mozilla
[02:59] <madcheeze> BushedCordes: im on my home pc and im working on my lappy
[02:59] <BushedCordes> madcheeze: now i'm getting a bit confused. what computer are you talking about? and: i thought you had your kernel problem fixed
[02:59] <jordo23> un_operateur: is aptitude purge the same as apt-get remove?
[02:59] <Twiztr> I got it configed in fstab so that the win drive mounts as a ntfs rw drive, but i still ahve to do the moutn command every time i get on
[02:59] <a1113> I have a problem with my video each time I play anything the computer freezes. I am running Ubuntu 6.10 with all the codecs installed (including win32 ...)
[03:00] <jordo23> un_operateur: aptitude isn't recognized
[03:00] <madcheeze> BushedCordes: the kernel problem is fixed, but i need access to it to configure my wireless, the problem is with my notebook pc, and i am typing on my desktop
[03:00] <un_operateur> jordo23, i think its the same as apt-get remove --purge packagename .. only a little better
[03:00] <stefg> a1113: 64-bit or 32-bit?
[03:00] <a1113> 32 on a laptop
[03:00] <BushedCordes> madcheeze: you need access to what?
[03:00] <un_operateur> jordo23, apt-get install aptitude; aptitude purge firefox; aptitude install konqueror-nsplugins firefox totem-mozilla
[03:00] <madcheeze> BushedCordes: altering the config on my wireless
[03:01] <madcheeze> BushedCordes: so, i think its kernel development, but i dont know exactly
[03:01] <itanshi> madcheese: do you use wifiradar?
[03:01] <Twiztr> Any ideas...?
[03:01] <Twiztr> I searched google and pulled a blank
[03:01] <madcheeze> itanshi: i dont know what to use
[03:01] <gandalfcome> need help with dual screen setup on ati. mouse position offset. help appreciated
[03:01] <itanshi> it scanned connections and gave me options to pick from
[03:01] <jokoon> Hello :) I used to have a xorg server update problem, making it not wanting to work. I asked a friend to fix the problem by making a big cleaning in my kernel to keep the generic one, and he reinstalled xorg and nvidia-glx etc. Without a boot for 2 weeks, ubuntu proposes 55 updates and this xorg thing again ... should I install it ? I saw that this update was a problem in last august but I had the problem in december ... Is it really safe to install Version 1
[03:01] <jokoon> :1.1.1-0ubuntu12.1 if I have Version 1:1.1.1-0ubuntu12 ??
[03:01] <stefg> a1113: maybe *all* the codecs are a bit too much. to get a decent video playback you'll need a 500Mhz CPU and 256 MB ram minimum
[03:02] <un_operateur> jordo23, i need to go eat something before i pass out over the keyboard of exhaustion  -- good luck with this command, i am quite certain it'll resolve everything
[03:02] <itanshi> it didn't connect so i need help
[03:02] <n0cturnal> Would I be wrong to try to fdisk a md device? Is the message "Disk /dev/md0 doesn't contain a valid partition table" normal?
[03:02] <un_operateur> jordo23, if not, i'll be back in a half-hour or so
[03:02] <BushedCordes> mdcheeze: what are you talking about?
[03:02] <jordo23> un_operateur: thanks....I will check back with you later...thanks for all the help
[03:02] <a1113> stefg, I have P4 Centrino 2GHz with 1GB of RAM and 7200rpm 80Go HD with 10 GB
[03:02] <itanshi> i think he needs wifiradar
[03:02] <BushedCordes> madcheeze: please try to describe precisely what are you trying to do with your notebook
[03:02] <a1113> stefg, free
[03:03] <IA-Outdoors_> Hey, I've got a USB drive I need to load some data off of to my ubuntu box.  dmesg shows it recognized the drive fine so how do I find where it mounted the thing?
[03:03] <Twiztr> !wmvdmod.dll
[03:03] <stefg> n0cturnal: a1113 , ok so the hardware will surely do it..
[03:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wmvdmod.dll - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:03] <stefg> oops
[03:03] <Twiztr> I am trying to run a vid, and I get wmvdmod error...
[03:03] <n0cturnal> lol
[03:03] <a1113> stefg, I think yes but I don't know why it is freezing
[03:04] <stefg> a1113: have you any logs to look at?
[03:04] <uco> how can i know my tv parameters
[03:04] <a1113> stefg, I am getting no logs nothing wrong and I have ATI configured properly with Xorg7
[03:04] <jordo23> un_operateur: IT WORKS!!!!
[03:05] <a1113> stefg, I am sorry :) I just made a fglrxinfo and I am still running with MESA drivers
[03:05] <stefg> a1113:: lol
[03:05] <a1113> stefg, a question
[03:05] <uco> i have conect my tv to my laptop but my tv i cant see to full screen any idea??
[03:05] <pike_> IA-Outdoors_: single command: "mount"
[03:05] <n0cturnal_> Would I be wrong to try to fdisk a md device? Is the message "Disk /dev/md0 doesn't contain a valid partition table" normal?
[03:05] <jokoon> I would know if the updates of nvidia-glx and xorg are currently safe, I already had a problem that was a pain to fix for a friend ...
[03:05] <jokoon> +like to
[03:06] <BushedCordes> w32codecs | Twiztr
[03:06] <BushedCordes> !w32codecs | Twiztr
[03:06] <a1113> stefg, do you think it is better to use generic kernel (i686 ?) or i386 (I am not sure the problem can come from there but it will optimise everything)
[03:06] <ubotu> Twiztr: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:06] <IA-Outdoors_> pike_: uh can't I assume it mounted the thing if it detects it as dmesg and /var/log/messages suggest?
[03:06] <madcheeze> BushedCordes: i cant find my network...
[03:06] <stefg> n0cturnal_: md -devices cant have a partition table, so the warning is normal. fdisk is the wrong tol to
[03:06] <lupine_85> a1113: just use -generic unless you have a 486
[03:06] <pike_> IA-Outdoors_: mount by itself no args will display all mount point
[03:06] <n0cturnal_> cheers
[03:06] <BushedCordes> ok. go to the pastebin link and put the output of your terminal wen you type ifconfig
[03:06] <madcheeze> BushedCordes: i do not know how to configure my network wireless
[03:06] <stefg> wrong tool to deal with raid devices, use mdadm instead
[03:06] <IA-Outdoors_> ah, gotcha
[03:07] <a1113> lupine_85, ok I didn't notice the name of the kernel changed after 2.17 (i686 = generic)
[03:07] <uco> somebody knows how can i put horisync and vertsync properly for my tv??
[03:07] <stefg> a1113: i'd install both and test hat
[03:07] <madcheeze> BushedCordes: what exactly are you looking for in it?
[03:07] <lupine_85> a1113: not quite
[03:07] <BushedCordes> madcheeze: just do it....
[03:07] <a1113> lupine_85, what is the difference the between generic and i686
[03:07] <lupine_85> -generic also includes smp support, and the amd64 kernel is also called -generic
[03:07] <madcheeze> BushedCordes: i cant show you it all since im on another pc...
[03:07] <stefg> !generic
[03:07] <ubotu> Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[03:08] <BushedCordes> madcheeze: please also paste iwconfig output
[03:08] <lupine_85> so it's all a bit of a mess, really ;)
[03:08] <madcheeze> BushedCordes: the iwconfig says unassociated essid home
[03:08] <BushedCordes> madcheeze: do you have cat5 network cable?
[03:08] <IA-Outdoors_> pike_: hrm, maybe it didn't mount it then.  only thing I see of interest is: 'usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)"
[03:08] <lupine_85> top tip: don't share /boot between i386 & amd64 -generic kernels unless you've thought about it /really/ well beforehand
[03:08] <madcheeze> BushedCordes: yes
[03:09] <BushedCordes> madcheeze: so why don't you go and put your notebook on the one end and your router on the other?
[03:09] <madcheeze> BushedCordes: i will be back in a sec, try to get in with my notebook
[03:09] <BushedCordes> madcheeze: good
[03:09] <pike_> IA-Outdoors_: might be something i do during initial setup but automount has never worked for me in ubuntu.. might just mount manually to /media/usb or wherever
[03:10] <tomix> has anyone encountered this error APIC error on CPU0: 40(40) when mounting their k750i or another mobile device?
[03:11] <uco> hi good afertnoon
[03:12] <kane77> uco: i
[03:12] <kane77> uco: hi
[03:12] <itanshi> bush: i share similar wireless problems to madcheese maybe, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1157/
[03:12] <CheshireViking> has anybody sucessfully installed Sage Line 50 and run it using Wine, and if so which version, the wine database says its no been tested yet
[03:12] <itanshi> i can scan, but it not connecting
[03:12] <madcheez1> BushedCordes: ok im back
[03:12] <uco> hi i need help for configure my tv properly can you help me
[03:12] <madcheez1> BushedCordes: hang on while i get the info
[03:12] <kane77> has anybody installed icq 5.1 under wine? my sister refuses to use anything else...
[03:13] <stefg> itanshi: what's that IP-less eth1 ?
[03:13] <madcheez1> BushedCordes: lo        no wireless extensions.
[03:13] <madcheez1> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[03:13] <madcheez1> eth1      unassociated  ESSID:off/any
[03:13] <madcheez1>           Mode:Managed  Frequency=nan kHz  Access Point: Not-Associated
[03:13] <madcheez1>           Bit Rate:0 kb/s   Tx-Power:16 dBm
[03:13] <madcheez1>           Retry limit:15   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[03:13] <madcheez1>           Power Management:off
[03:13] <madcheez1>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[03:13] <kane77> uco: tv card or tv set??
[03:13] <madcheez1>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[03:13] <madcheez1>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:2412   Missed beacon:0
[03:13] <madcheez1> sit0      no wireless extensions.
[03:13] <uco> i can see my laptop in my tv but not properly because i dont know the parameters for my tv
[03:13] <uco> tv out
[03:13] <stefg> !paste | madcheez1
[03:13] <kane77> !paste | madcheez1
[03:13] <ubotu> madcheez1: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[03:14] <itanshi> x_x
[03:14] <uco> intel i 810
[03:14] <madcheez1> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:A0:D1:44:71:0D
[03:14] <madcheez1>           inet addr:192.168.1.2  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[03:14] <madcheez1>           inet6 addr: fe80::2a0:d1ff:fe44:710d/64 Scope:Link
[03:14] <madcheez1>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[03:14] <madcheez1>           RX packets:560 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[03:14] <madcheez1>           TX packets:321 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[03:14] <madcheez1>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[03:14] <madcheez1>           RX bytes:635893 (620.9 KiB)  TX bytes:26895 (26.2 KiB)
[03:14] <madcheez1> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
[03:14] <madcheez1>           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
[03:14] <madcheez1>           inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
[03:14] <mwe> madcheez1: don't do that
[03:14] <madcheez1>           UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
[03:14] <madcheez1>           RX packets:2 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[03:14] <maddash> madcheez1, use the pastebin.ca
[03:14] <madcheez1>           TX packets:2 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[03:14] <madcheez1>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
[03:14] <madcheez1>           RX bytes:100 (100.0 b)  TX bytes:100 (100.0 b)
[03:14] <mwe> madcheez1: stop
[03:14] <madcheez1> BushedCordes: ok there ya go
[03:14] <madcheez1> oh
[03:14] <stefg> madcheez1: you are asking for a ban! STOP!
[03:14] <madcheez1> my bad..
[03:14] <madcheez1> i am done
[03:14] <lupine_85> !pastebin
[03:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:14] <mwe> madcheez1: you'll get kicked for that
[03:15] <uco> kane77 do you know how can i see the parameters for my tv?
[03:15] <madcheez1> mwe: sorry
[03:15] <itanshi> so up-less eth 1?
[03:15] <itanshi> ip
[03:15] <tim167> hi, is there any way to compress a DVD movie to DivX or Xvid or something similar in ubuntu ?
[03:15] <madcheez1> mwe: never again...
[03:15] <stefg> !dvdrip
[03:15] <ubotu> dvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.98.1-0.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 718 kB, installed size 2084 kB
[03:15] <kane77> uco: no sorry... I meant you were configuring tv card... :(
[03:15] <lupine_85> tim167: lots of ways :)
[03:15] <uco> kane77 ok dont worry thank u very much
[03:16] <stefg> !dvdrip | tim167
[03:16] <itanshi> not sure what you mean by ip-less eth 1, there is a network name in there, the one i mean to connect to
[03:16] <uco> step by step yesterday i cant see nothing today better but i can see in full screen
[03:17] <itanshi> i think i had an ip before
[03:17] <tim167> lupine_85, stefg: can you suggest a program or method ? (ubotu doesnt show me anything on dvdrip)
[03:17] <tomix> APIC error on CPU0: 40(40) hmm just wondering is this in anyway related to issue with ipods and the kernel needing a patch to deal with them>
[03:17] <tim167> oops sorry, yes it does
[03:17] <madcheez1> BushedCordes: getting anywhere with it?
[03:17] <tomix> ?
[03:17] <stefg> tim167: sudo apt-get install dvdrip... have atest drive
[03:17] <itanshi> i'm on ethernet now to it
[03:17] <uco> somebody have conect the laptop to tv???
[03:17] <jdt_> whats the best gnome vpn client?
[03:18] <tim167> stefg: will do :-p
[03:18] <stefg> !best
[03:18] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[03:18] <lupine_85> tim167: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_DVD-Ripping is also quite handy
[03:18] <tim167> lupine_85: thanx!
[03:18] <madcheez1> BushedCordes: hello?
[03:18] <BushedCordes> madcheez1: please use the pastebin
[03:18] <pike_> gentoo documentation generally rules. course it has to for anyone to be able to use it
[03:18] <madcheez1> BushedCordes: ok
[03:18] <BushedCordes> put iwconfig and ifconfig
[03:19] <jdt_> stefg: sry, I have found kvpnc is pretty standard for ms pptp etc. but in gnome, I havent found an easy way
[03:19] <jdt_> Let alone connect to Juniper vpns, etc
[03:20] <madcheez1> can i paste the pastebin location?
[03:20] <stefg> jdt_: i understand your need, but have not much expertise with VPN's.. rather ask someone else
[03:20] <BushedCordes> madcheez1: you get a small url when you finished pasting. this one you may paste here
[03:21] <stefg> itanshi: ethi1 does not have an IPv4 address, this means the interface is not up.
[03:22] <jdt_> stefg: thanks.  I have been playing with ubuntu and kubuntu 6.06 and 6.10. I have a need at my work place to connect to vpns all the time - in gnome, (which I prefer) i cant seem to ever do it easily at all. thats it. Does anyone else have any recommendations?
[03:24] <bamzin> hi there
[03:24] <madcheez1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1160/
[03:25] <bamzin> i can hear no sound on my acer aspire 3660 laptop.. everything seems to work fine but no sound at all :/ can anyone help me?:
[03:25] <tim167> stefg, i have two errors in dvdrip settings dialog: STDIN player command: xine not found : NOT Ok, and rar command (for vobsub compression): rar-2.80 not found : NOT Ok
[03:25] <mnoir> !sound | bamzin have you looked at this yet?
[03:25] <ubotu> bamzin have you looked at this yet?: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[03:25] <stefg> jdt_: what i read form the google results, people tend to compile the  Cisco VPN client and put a shortcut to a script somewhere.
[03:26] <bamzin> sound? hm lemme see
[03:26] <bamzin> !sound
[03:26] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[03:26] <bamzin> ah, okay ;)
[03:26] <bamzin> ill try it
[03:26] <maddash> bamzin:
[03:26] <dvheumen> Hi everyone! Is there a way to check te compile date or version number of a certain kernel module? Because I want to check if the loaded modules were already in the modules list, or that I added them yesterday...
[03:26] <madcheez1> BushedCordes: got it?
[03:26] <stefg> tim167: you need a.) universe enabled, and b.) apt-get install rar-nonfree libxine0
[03:27] <stefg> !libxine0
[03:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libxine0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <stefg> !libxine
[03:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libxine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <lupine_85> dvheumen: if modinfo <module> doesn't tell you, then no
[03:27] <maddash> bamzin: maybe this will work - make sure that "alsa-base," "alsa-utils," and "libesd0" and/or "libesd0-alsa" are installed
[03:27] <Drel3> hello
[03:27] <tim167> stefg: thanks i'll try that
[03:27] <maddash> dvheumen, uname
[03:27] <stefg> This friggin' package changes its name with every release
[03:27] <bamzin> well.. first step didnt work. on 'change device' there's only oss
[03:27] <jdt_> stefg: I might do some research. I ran Kubuntu for a while cause I found it had a lot of convenient apps. but I am now running ubuntu again. I guess - will do the research :s
[03:27] <maddash> dvheumen, oops sorry - use modinfo
[03:28] <eboogie_> greetings all!
[03:28] <BushedCordes> madcheez1: now i got it. never forget to type a person's nick if you want to be heard of that person
[03:28] <Drel3> i need to install gdesklets but i dont now how,can someone please write me HOW TO
[03:28] <madcheez1> BushedCordes: sorry, i figured you would see it
[03:28] <stefg> jdt_: if you don't mind to look at a german site (bash is universal anyway) http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Cisco-VPN-Client
[03:28] <mwe> !libxine1
[03:28] <ubotu> libxine1: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.2+repacked1-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 3146 kB, installed size 6820 kB
[03:29] <Jowi> Drel3, "sudo apt-get install gdesklets gdesklets-data"
[03:29] <dvheumen> maddash: I'm going to find out... I didn't know that command :)
[03:29] <BushedCordes> madcheez1: type in your terminal "sudo ifconfig eth1 up" ifconfig is the network interface configuration program. eth1 is your intel interface..
[03:29] <BushedCordes> madcheez1: by the output of your ifconfig you can see that eth1 is down
[03:29] <bamzin> maddash:  most of them not. how do I install a tar.bz2 file? all alsa files on their website have this extension
[03:29] <maddash> dvheumen, do "lsmod" to see what modules you have, then "modinfo <modulename"
[03:29] <stefg> !build | bamzin
[03:29] <ubotu> bamzin: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:30] <maddash> bamzin: just install those 4 pkgs from synaptic
[03:30] <bamzin> maddash, they arent listed in synaptic :/ ive already looked for it heh
[03:30] <maddash> bamzin; ie, open a terminal and type in `gksu synaptic`
[03:30] <madcheez1> BushedCordes: ok now what?
[03:30] <maddash> bamzin: do you have non-free repositories?
[03:31] <dvheumen> maddash: tnx, I already knew lsmod. Btw, can't I just look at the creating/modification date of the .ko file?
[03:31] <BushedCordes> madcheez1: type in "iwlist eth1 scan"
[03:31] <maddash> bamzin: maybe pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:31] <BushedCordes> madcheez1: best thing would be to paste the output again
[03:31] <maddash> dvheumen, yes, i suppose.
[03:31] <BushedCordes> you can use your old pastebin entry for that
[03:31] <bamzin> maddash, yes.. all universe, main, multiverse and restricted.. i hope so. heh
[03:31] <dvheumen> maddash: k, in that case I' ve got my anser, tnx for the quick response :D
[03:32] <maddash> dvheumen, unless you copied the .ko to /lib/modules *some time after* you compiled...
[03:32] <dhq> is there any channel where i can look for a job please i need help i know this is not the channel to ask but i am desparate
[03:32] <bamzin> well i'm getting crazy here, typing on my desktop with the trouble-laptop  on my knees. ill look for those alsa now, thanks!
[03:32] <lupine_85> dhq: you can work for me, but you might not like the job
[03:32] <rrohde> Can someone help me troubleshoot this LDAP error I am getting, even though I set the password correctly in slapd.conf: ldap_bind: Invalid credentials
[03:32] <BushedCordes> dhq: a job? if i get booted from school you can look for me too
[03:32] <tim167> stefg: afaik Universe is enabled, libxine1 is installed ('already the newest version'), and still rar-nonfree 'Couldn't find package' ...
[03:32] <dhq> lupine_85: work as what
[03:32] <maddash> bamzin: search on packages.ubuntu.com
[03:33] <FactTech> dhq What do you know how to do?
[03:33] <stefg> !rar | tim167
[03:33] <ubotu> tim167: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[03:33] <maddash> bamzin: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=alsa&searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all
[03:33] <stefg> !rar-nonfree
[03:33] <dhq> well you see i have exprience in web designing
[03:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rar-nonfree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:33] <lupine_85> ...
[03:33] <lupine_85> nm
[03:33] <dhq> dataentry and graphics
[03:33] <dvheumen> maddash: the thing is... I've compiled a driver for the realtek8180 wlan card yesterday. And looking in lsmod now I thought it wasn't supposed to be loaded because I removed everything, but it was :P. So I was curious... or insmod has automatically copied the driver to /lib/modules/ or it was already in /lib/modules/ :D
[03:33] <FactTech> Question: Does anybody know if there is a launchpad product for the launchpad website itself? I know there is an ubuntu-website product; should that be used?
[03:34] <NixNewb> How do you set up ubuntu where you can control it through putty?
[03:34] <dhq> lupine_85: tell me
[03:34] <pike_> dhq: show up at a big corp and just start working.  about a week later when everyone know you goto HR and tell them your paperwork never went through
[03:34] <mwe> NixNewb: just install ssh
[03:34] <FactTech> dhq Have you posted your resume at dice.com?
[03:34] <riotkittie> pike_: hahah.
[03:34] <itansh3> updated mine - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1162/
[03:34] <NixNewb> do i have to do sudo apt get or is itthere in the graphical things
[03:34] <maddash> dvheumen, check /etc/modules
[03:34] <lupine_85> I work for a secret organisation ;)
[03:34] <mwe> NixNewb: sudo aptitude install openssh-server
[03:35] <dhq> FactTech: well not yet
[03:35] <mwe> NixNewb: then log in with putty
[03:35] <NixNewb> thank you
[03:35] <pradeep> FactTech, if you are looking for a package name ... there is 'launchpad'
[03:35] <FactTech> dhq That's your first step. It's a great place to get picked up for any kind of technical work.
[03:35] <tomix> narrowed it down would appear I have an SiS Mother board which causes the problem, anyone got an idea for easy solution?
[03:35] <FactTech> dhq What metro area are you in?
[03:35] <madcheez2> BushedCordes: im on...
[03:35] <dvheumen> maddash: no r818x in there, only ndiswrapper (and some other that don't have anything to do with this)
[03:35] <madcheez2> BushedCordes: you are the man...
[03:36] <itansh3> mm
[03:36] <dhq> FactTech: editing,webdesigning,graphics,
[03:36] <FactTech> dhq No, I meant what area of the country do you live in? Near which city?
[03:36] <maddash> dvheumen, check your /boot/config-`uname -r`  , maybe the kernel is compiled to automatically load that module
[03:36] <madcheez2> BushedCordes: now, im sure you are so tired of dealing with me... but i want to thank you.
[03:37] <BushedCordes> madcheez2: ah what man.. you're welcome
[03:37] <maddash> dvheumen, do you want the realtek module or not?
[03:37] <zzzhc> #mysql
[03:37] <dhq> FactTech: i live in india
[03:37] <madcheez2> BushedCordes: i will be sure you help as much as possible to give back to ya man...
[03:37] <FactTech> dhq Well, I don't know anyone over there, but I would try getting on dice.com and check to see if there's an equivalent for India.
[03:38] <itansh3> ^^ ok eh, may i go next? wireless problem, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1162/
[03:38] <FactTech> dhq Plenty of people involved in outsourcing operations get resumes on dice, so I would imagine you would get some interest there.
[03:38] <dhq> FactTech: i will work online rite
[03:38] <dvheumen> maddash: If it works, I' ve been working with ndiswrapper so far, so I'll have to check it first. I'm gonna give it a reboot (now *not* loading ndiswrapper) to make sure it works from the start.
[03:38] <madcheez2> where can i get info on certain programs to use with ubuntu? is there another irc channel?
[03:38] <lupine_85> stefg: I'm Agent Silver
[03:38] <mnoir> !elaborate | madcheez2
[03:38] <ubotu> madcheez2: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[03:38] <lupine_85> due to my silvery wolf-hair
[03:38] <lupine_85> but shhhhhhhh!
[03:39] <dhq> FactTech: isnt there any other go
[03:39] <rmorris84> I just used automatix on a fresh install, and I installed the sled 10 and I can't figure out how to add it to my menu
[03:39] <CheshireViking> is there an irc channel for Wine used under Ubuntu, or just a general wine channel?
[03:39] <BushedCordes> stefg: thanks for your help on my init script. it showed today to workout just fine
[03:40] <mnoir> CheshireViking: there prolly is a channel - have you tried looking at the wine web site?
[03:40] <stefg> BushedCordes: and you learned from it i hope :-)
[03:40] <madcheez2> stefg: thank you also... very helpful...
[03:41] <BushedCordes> stefg: sure
[03:41] <CheshireViking> mnoir: thank, i had a quick look & couldn't see anything obvious, i'll spend a bit more time looking
[03:41] <hfish> hello, I have a "no sound in dosbox" problem. Is this the right place to ask ?
[03:41] <mnoir> hmm
[03:42] <mnoir> CheshireViking: try the big irc nets - efnet for instance, if there is none here
[03:42] <droogie> Hello, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 6.10 on an Fujitsu-Siemens RX100S3 server. The server have an onboard 'LSI Logic Embedded SATA Raid Controller'. I've configured the raid on hardware level, but under the install it's still to seperate sata disks. Do I have to use software raid, or is it possible to use the hardware solution?
[03:42] <CheshireViking> mnoir: i need my eyes testing - "live support channel" on the wine webiste now i've looked again
[03:42] <mnoir> haha
[03:42] <NixNewb> suod apt-get install open-ssh isn't
[03:42] <NixNewb> working
[03:42] <NixNewb> it says it cant be found
[03:43] <stefg> !openssh-server | NixNewb
[03:43] <mnoir> NixNewb: read the name again - you got it wrong
[03:43] <ubotu> openssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 212 kB, installed size 552 kB
[03:43] <mnoir> NixNewb: be careful with names.  you could install something that does something that you do not want!
[03:43] <Ribs> droogie, my understanding of hardware raids is that they make it transparant to the end operating system... so the os only sees one drive, regardless of the OS and it's drivers...
[03:44] <NixNewb> thank you, i'll try ti again
[03:44] <droogie> Ribs: thats my understanding to, but it doesnt seem like linux accept it like that :/
[03:45] <hfish> hello, I have a "no sound in dosbox" problem. Is this the right place to ask ?
[03:45] <stefg> droogie: Since the CPU is doing the raid'ing anyway I'd go for softraid... LVM and mdadm are nic
[03:45] <stefg> *nice
[03:45] <Ribs> droogie, then your raid isn't set up correctly... it's not linux at fault... *any* os should just see it as one drive.
[03:45] <mnoir> Ribs: it is possible that the os does not have the right drivers - even though Ribs is correct, drivers often matter
[03:45] <elysium444> Where can I get DVR for ubuntu 6.10?
[03:45] <elysium444> DVR!
[03:45] <elysium444> !DVR
[03:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about DVR - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:45] <NixNewb> okay openssh-server said it was already installed
[03:45] <NixNewb> how do i turn it on?
[03:46] <Ribs> NixNewb, it should already be running
[03:46] <mnoir> NixNewb: if it is installed, it is prolly on
[03:46] <stefg> !bum
[03:46] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[03:46] <elysium444>  Where can I get DVR for ubuntu 6.10?
[03:47] <mnoir> NixNewb: try it in putty or in a terminal window using ssh localhost
[03:47] <mnoir> NixNewb: as the command
[03:48] <elysium444>  Where can I get DVR for ubuntu 6.10?
[03:48] <Jowi> !dvr | elysium444
[03:48] <ubotu> dvr: Digital Video Recorder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2-8ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 320 kB, installed size 980 kB (Only available for i386)
[03:49] <mnoir> elysium444: so the package name is dvr and you can use synaptic  (gui for apt-get) to install it
[03:50] <mnoir> NixNewb: is it working?
[03:50] <elysium444> Thanks I used capital letters that's why i couldnt find it
[03:50] <mnoir> :)
[03:51] <mnoir> elysium444: one of those things - i think the packaging system rarely uses capital letters :)
[03:52] <jac> hay alguien que me pueda ayudar con los codes para toten
[03:52] <mnoir> !ex | jac
[03:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:52] <mnoir> !es | jac
[03:52] <ubotu> jac: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:52] <jac> gracias
[03:52] <mnoir> de nada :)
[03:54] <un_operateur> jordo23, you there?
[03:54] <insom|ntbk> is there anyone who can confirm if linux works with the wireless cards in asus laptops?
[03:55] <dvheumen> maddash: it seems that the kernel module works just fine, so I don't need to remove it. It's kind of ironic, I've been playing with ndiswrapper to get the wlan going and now it turns out that support is already in the linux kernel :P. Btw, how does the kernel respond to 2 kernel modules that both want to use the same device? (like r818x and ndiswrapper)
[03:55] <elysium444>  mnoir: I was using "apt-cache search" to find it, but I think I am having problems to the sourcelist...
[03:55] <KenSentMe> How can i see the boot scripts instead of the bootspalsh screen at startup?
[03:55] <elysium444> Anyway now I know where to find it
[03:55] <elysium444> thanks
[03:56] <mnoir> elysium444: hmm, pastebin yer sources?
[03:56] <tijn> hi all
[03:56] <un_operateur> insom|ntbk, you should lookup a linux wireless card compatibility database to make certain, some distro's have drivers for card even otherwise -- as a last resort you can use you windows drivers on linux using !ndiswrapper
[03:56] <maddash> dvheumen, not sure, shares the device between the two?
[03:56] <mnoir> elysium444: i get it fine with apt-cache.  6.06 or 6.10?
[03:57] <tijn> where is the ubuntu splash screen located? or how do i change it?
[03:57] <un_operateur> KenSentMe, do you want it always like that? or just a one-off?
[03:57] <mwe> tijn: it's somewhat tricky. search the forums
[03:58] <Jowi> KenSentMe, in /boot/grub/menu.lst you will see the word "splash" at the end of the kernel line. simply remove it.
[03:58] <mnoir> elysium444: i do not see it in 6.10 - mebbe not there??
[03:58] <un_operateur> !usplash | tijn
[03:58] <ubotu> tijn: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[03:58] <dvheumen> maddash: hmmm... I don't think so... I can tell that there was only 1 wlan (wlan0) adapter. Maybe the second module overrules the first and takes the device away, probably leaving the first module to doing nothing... (At least, that would explain why there was only 1 wlan adapter)
[03:58] <tijn> thnx!
[03:59] <elysium444> mnoir: I cant find it too
[03:59] <itansh3> ok i waited some, help? ^^ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1162/ not connecting to my network via wireless
[03:59] <FactTech> !splash
[03:59] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image using !gconf-editor
[03:59] <FactTech> !quiet
[03:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quiet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:59] <mnoir> elysium444: try http://packages.ubuntu.com?
[03:59] <elysium444> And I couldn't compile it from source, some errors came out
[03:59] <NixNewb> it works
[04:00] <mnoir> elysium444: that might be why it seems to be unavailable - maybe not compatible with 6.10?
[04:00] <NixNewb> thank you all
[04:00] <mnoir> NixNewb: whazzat for me?
[04:00] <mnoir> NixNewb: good
[04:00] <KenSentMe> un_operateur: i want a one-off
[04:00] <mwe> itansh3: it looks like you accidently pasted the output of ifconfig twice instead of iwconfig the second time
[04:01] <KenSentMe> un_operateur: just by key-press or something
[04:01] <itansh3> eh
[04:01] <mwe> itansh3: it also looks like the card is associated with the AP. did you try sudo dhclient eth1?
[04:01] <mnoir> NixNewb: if you have X installed on your win machine you can run gui pgms from the ubuntu machine on yer win desktop
[04:01] <un_operateur> KenSentMe, at the boot-menu .. you select the kernel you want to boot .. press 'e' .. and edit that entry to add the word 'quiet' at the end (or remove the word 'splash')
[04:01] <elysium444>  mnoir: I found it, but for i368, I need x86_64.
[04:01] <mnoir> elysium444:  :(
[04:02] <Jowi> KenSentMe, ...or when you see the splash appear at boot - press ESC
[04:02] <mwe> itansh3: you probably want mode managed, though
[04:02] <itansh3> ok corrected ^^ thanks
[04:03] <mwe> itansh3: sudo iwconfig eth1 mode managed && sudo dhclient eth1
[04:03] <SeraVitae> hey, does anyone know of a program similar to 'hyperterminal' in windows? i want to make a null modem connection with a product im developing
[04:03] <SeraVitae> where i can just connect to com ports and see output
[04:03] <elysium444> mnoir: youre right there are a lot other application I cant use...
[04:03] <itansh3> '&&'? that make them go off together? or one at a time?
[04:03] <Dimensions> HIya how do i make ubuntu my default boot along with Mac OSX ?
[04:04] <mwe> itansh3: it only exexutes the second command if the first one succeeds
[04:04] <itansh3> cool
[04:04] <joeds> Hi, this isn't strictly an Ubuntu question, I'm in etch. All my taskbar and menu fonts have turned into squares after an attempt to upgrade GTK+ while i was still using sarge. I thought a dist-upgrade to etch might solve it but it hasn't i can see text in apps but not in the environment any ideas?
[04:04] <un_operateur> SeraVitae, errm, i think you need !minicom
[04:04] <SeraVitae> !minicom
[04:04] <ubotu> minicom: friendly menu driven serial communication program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1-10 (edgy), package size 150 kB, installed size 892 kB
[04:04] <SeraVitae> that'll do
[04:04] <bettyboop1975>  /j #ubuntu-it
[04:04] <mnoir> joeds: there is a nice channel called #debian ...
[04:04] <bettyboop1975> sorry
[04:04] <bettyboop1975> :)
[04:04] <d0ppl3r> hi all
[04:04] <joeds> thanks
[04:05] <itansh3> i have wifiradar, that help any? i uninstalled ndiswrapper fyi
[04:05] <maddash> joeds, come to #debian
[04:05] <itansh3> its running otherwise
[04:06] <un_operateur> joeds, is it just the writing?
[04:06] <Dimensions> can some one please tell me how do change default boot option for OSX in dual boot to UBUNTU ?
[04:06] <diepruis> "<-- joeds has left this channel."
[04:07] <christopher_l> does someone know how to install a different kernel on Ubuntu 6.10?
[04:07] <maddash> Dimensions, depends on your bootloader
[04:07] <itansh3> updated http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1166/
[04:07] <pty> Dimensions: look in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:07] <kevin> Greetings, I am trying to upgrade edubuntu 6.06 to 6.10. When I run gksu "update-manager -c" it says "your system is up to date" with no upgrade message available. Anyone know how I can fix this?
[04:07] <Jowi> !kernel | christopher_l
[04:07] <ubotu> christopher_l: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[04:07] <pike_> christopher_l: search for linux-image in synaptic there are a few available
[04:07] <diepruis> @christopher http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158
[04:07] <Dimensions> pty:  and maddash boot loader will be rEFIt ? i think
[04:08] <mnoir> !update | kevin have you looked here
[04:08] <ubotu> kevin have you looked here: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:08] <maddash> Dimensions, google "change default boot in refit"
[04:08] <_raphael_> is it possible to make firefox the default browser with xchat? currently, it is konqueror
[04:09] <Dimensions> already tried maddash i have done it before but forgot how i did it ... and its very urgent atm
[04:09] <maddash> _raphael_, you have to set the BROWSER env variable
[04:09] <pty> Dimensions: sorry only know about grub and lilo ;(
[04:09] <maddash> Dimensions, then google is definitely your friend, and irc less so...
[04:09] <_raphael_> maddash: ok. how?
[04:10] <KenSentMe> un_operateur, Jowi: thanks for your info. I'll try it at boot
[04:10] <maddash> _raphael_, cmd prompt, type `env BROWSER=/path/to/firefox`
[04:10] <itansh3> mwe: i updated it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1166/ ^^ thanks for the help so far
[04:10] <kevin> mnoir, yes that's where it told me to use the gksu "update-manager -c"
[04:10] <NixNewb> is there a way to set up vnc to run on ubuntu
[04:10] <mnoir> kevin: hmm - i wonder if the edubuntu upg is different?
[04:10] <NixNewb> the one built in, you have to be logged on for it to work
[04:11] <_raphael_> maddash: and it is enogh to type it once?
[04:11] <tijn> !version
[04:11] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[04:11] <maddash> _raphael_, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/set-the-default-browser-on-ubuntu-from-the-command-line/
[04:11] <maddash> _raphael_, first link from http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=opera&rls=en&hs=Acg&q=ubuntu+default+browser&btnG=Search
[04:12] <mnoir> kevin: it should not be different to upg but i do not use it
[04:12] <kevin> mnoir, ok thanks
[04:12] <ubuntux> hey can someone say if the new ati linux drivers support aiglx?
[04:13] <christopher_l> maybe I don't need to compile a new kernel, somebody know how to make my new keyboard to work, some information here: http://pastie.caboo.se/32564
[04:13] <mnoir> ubuntux: have you asked in #ubuntu-glx ?
[04:13] <_raphael_> maddash: thanks. it works now
[04:13] <ubuntux> mnoir, nope
[04:13] <MasterShrek> !gpg
[04:13] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[04:13] <maddash> _raphael_, np
[04:14] <ubuntux> mnoir, now i did
[04:14] <dvheumen> well, thnx again everyone!
[04:14] <itansh3> ok then, i am having a wireless connection issue - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1166/ what i did so far
[04:14] <mnoir> ubuntux: sorry - that  may be the wrong group - nobody there
[04:14] <BushedCordes> i used this guide to make my bluetooth audio headset work: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSkype the connection is good but on my cellphone i get a ways better audio playback with the headset. anybody has a clue how i can fix that?
[04:14] <stefg> itansh3: i have the impression that the problem can be your router. As your paste says... no dhcp-offers reveived
[04:14] <itansh3> mm ok
[04:15] <itansh3> so i need ndiswrapper?
[04:15] <ubuntux> mnoir, well, i did ask it in ubuntu-xgl
[04:15] <mnoir> ubuntux: :)
[04:15] <JAyRULE> I want to set up remote desktop without using VNC. SSH is already set up, I just need to know the name of the program that would run x session, if that makes any sense - newb here. I would be logging onto ubuntu from windows XP using PuTTy.
[04:15] <stefg> itansh3: i don't know, but do other PC's connect to your router and get an IP via  DHCP?
[04:16] <droogie> how come raid options doesnt show up in the partitioner during installation?
[04:16] <lupine_85> JAyRULE: do you have an X server on your windows PC?
[04:16] <ikonia> JAyRULE exceed or pcxware
[04:16] <mnoir> JAyRULE: if you install X on the win machine, ssh -X will do it
[04:16] <itansh3> its a new linksys like a couple years, but nothing changed since then
[04:16] <ikonia> lupine_85 hi lupine - got a minute
[04:16] <wastrel> bah
[04:16] <mnoir> JAyRULE: look for cygwin X server
[04:16] <lupine_85> sure
[04:16] <itansh3> yes i have another laptop windows that works
[04:16] <lupine_85> ikonia: sup?
[04:16] <ikonia> lupine_85 can I drop a pm as I don't want to discuss in channel
[04:16] <lupine_85> sure
[04:16] <mnoir> ikonia: those cost, cygwin doesn't
[04:16] <Jowi> JAyRULE, ssh -X. you will need x server for windows though. an easier way is to use freenx
[04:16] <Jowi> !freenx | JAyRULE
[04:16] <ubotu> JAyRULE: FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[04:17] <stefg> itansh3: but you are positive that a dhcp server is running on the router? maybe you accidently switched that off
[04:17] <itansh3> on the router itself?
[04:17] <stefg> yes
[04:17] <itansh3> i know dhcp via ethernet works, on now
[04:17] <stefg> ok
[04:17] <itansh3> brb then
[04:18] <Mikey> is there a prog to monitor CPU temp and all that jazz?
[04:18] <JAyRULE> Wow you guys are a big help! Thanks!
[04:18] <stefg> acpi -V
[04:18] <JAyRULE> Ill give those a try!
[04:18] <mnoir> JAyRULE: you thanking before it works? :)
[04:18] <Voldemort> Good day to all
[04:19] <JAyRULE> Haha I just needed to know the name and I'm sure I could get it working
[04:19] <Jowi> JAyRULE, mnoir has got a point. people might get ideas about themselves
[04:19] <Mikey> stef: acpi -V to me? but i dont think acpi got recognised on my laptop
[04:19] <JAyRULE> Besides, I'm at work and I shouldn't be doing this lol
[04:19] <jobbe> hey everyone
[04:19] <mnoir> JAyRULE: actually it is easy - do not work too hard before asking questions :)
[04:20] <stefg> Mikey: there's a boatload  of desktop gadgets for that.. gkrellm, gdesklets...
[04:20] <ikonia> stefg I went through this with him yesterday
[04:20] <ikonia> your wasting your time
[04:20] <mnoir> ikonia: a chroll??
[04:20] <jobbe> Is there any way to disable acpi_video on boot (standard edy eft kernel)? It prevents my Samsung X60 from booting...
[04:20] <ikonia> mnoir nice new word
[04:20] <jobbe> by disable I mean, is there a way to disable it without recompiling the kernel
[04:20] <itansh3> ok back, DHCP is on
[04:21] <ikonia> jobbe is there a boot option for it ? what point does it fail at ?
[04:21] <Mikey> stef: ok, ill look
[04:21] <n2diy> jobbe, at a boot prompt try noacpi, or acpi=no
[04:21] <Jowi> jobbe, pci=noacpi if I'm not mistaken
[04:21] <jobbe> nah that disables all of acpi
[04:21] <jobbe> that's the problem
[04:21] <mnoir> acpi=off
[04:22] <ikonia> mnoir thats the whole lot - not vedio
[04:22] <ikonia> video even
[04:22] <mnoir> ikonia: oic
[04:22] <hfish> I don't get the sound to work in dosbox. When I start dosbox I get the error-message: open /dev/snd/seq failed: no such file or directory
[04:22] <ikonia> hfish whats dosbox ? the dos emu ?
[04:22] <un_operateur> !info dosbox
[04:22] <ubotu> dosbox: A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA/SVGA graphics, sound and DOS. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.65-1 (edgy), package size 506 kB, installed size 1388 kB
[04:22] <hfish> ikonia: yes the dos emu
[04:23] <ubuntux> someone knows some pivot software for linux?
[04:23] <ikonia> hfish check if the device file /dev/snd/seq exists and if it has permissions
[04:23] <stefg> hfish: MIDI or ALSA-OSS isn't setup right
[04:23] <ikonia> hfish then if its not check why its not being picked up and a device created for it
[04:23] <hfish> ok, i'm goint to try this
[04:23] <FactTech> ikonia What's a .ch troll?
[04:23] <mnoir> jobbe: i found some potentially interesting links by googling for 'grub acpi video off'
[04:23] <ikonia> FactTech looks like I was wrong, but most of the trolling bots come from .ch domains
[04:23] <jobbe> oh mnoir, thanks, i must have missed those
[04:24] <jobbe> i'll have a look
[04:24] <stefg> ikonia: The land of bankers, chocolate and cheese
[04:24] <ikonia> stefg is it really cheese ?
[04:25] <mnoir> jobbe: no guarabtees but the summaries looked interesting including some laptop problems solved.  don't hesitate to look at lonks that are for other distributions - it is all pretty much the same :)
[04:25] <un_operateur> ikonia, or better, is it really chocolate? :)
[04:25] <stefg> .ch is switzerland... a running gag... /ch/eese and /ch/ocolate country
[04:25] <ikonia> un_operateur they do have some famous choocys there
[04:25] <ikonia> stefg ahhhhhhhhhh
[04:25] <jobbe> thanks mnoir :)
[04:25] <mnoir> np
[04:25] <mnoir> riotkittie: you running apache locally?
[04:25] <un_operateur> ikonia, well, on a league of it's own -- could you really call that stuff chocolate? it's almost blasphemy :)
[04:26] <riotkittie> no
[04:26] <itansh3> stefg: DHCP is on, anything else in my router I should look at?
[04:26] <ikonia> un_operateur didn't say ~I liked the poncy stuff
[04:26] <madcheez2> wow, installing java using automatix and its taking forever...
[04:26] <ikonia>  don't use automatix - it sucks
[04:26] <n2diy> speaking of cheese?
[04:26] <mnoir> riotkittie: oic - if you were, localhost/doc would get you there in yer browser
[04:26] <ikonia> its that simple
[04:26] <freakabcd> hi all
[04:26] <hfish> ikonia: directory /dev/snd exists with some files in it, but no file named /dev/snd/seq. how do I create this file
[04:26] <madcheez2> ikonia: too late now...
[04:26] <stefg> itansh3: have you setup any policy on alowed or denied MAC adresses in your router?
[04:26] <freakabcd> is 'bum' the application i use to manage the startup services ?
[04:26] <n2diy> ! automatix | madcheez2
[04:26] <ubotu> madcheez2: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:27] <ikonia> hfish udev creates it for you depending on your sound card configuration
[04:27] <mnoir> !elaborate | hfish
[04:27] <ubotu> hfish: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[04:27] <itansh3> mac filter disabled
[04:27] <stefg> aha
[04:27] <madcheez2> we will see how it goes...
[04:27] <itansh3> so i should enable it?
[04:27] <stefg> so the router /should/ hand out an IP... but ubuntu doesn't get it
[04:27] <mnoir> hfish: /dev files are usually not manually created
[04:28] <stefg> itansh3: no, leave MAC filter off... useless anyway
[04:28] <itansh3> ok
[04:28] <pike_> keeps clueless  neighbors off..
[04:28] <fromvega> mnoir: hello dude! I want to thank you and apologize for yesteday. I had to go because the tech guy was installing a new cable service here...
[04:29] <gerhard> hi there
[04:29] <mnoir> fromvega: np - you all set yet?
[04:29] <stefg> pike_: ok, that's true if you live in overpopulated areas :-)
[04:29] <axisys> i am trying to mount two separate dir thru smb.. one mounts fine and the other one is giving me "Too many open files in system"
[04:29] <gerhard> I have a file but I dont know which type it is, how can I find out?
[04:29] <itansh3> well i have a few neighbors with wifi around me
[04:29] <axisys> any idea how to go around it?
[04:29] <ikonia> gerhard run file against it
[04:29] <itansh3> i keep accidentally connecting to one of their routers <.<
[04:29] <ikonia> axisys the linux equiv of nflocks is being exceeded
[04:29] <itansh3> not on here
[04:29] <n2diy> gerhard: right click on it and look at properties.
[04:30] <gerhard> thx, ikonia
[04:30] <madcheez2> itansh3: you have to pick your network...
[04:30] <Bruco16> gerhard: "file filename"
[04:30] <axisys> ikonia: so what do u i do
[04:30] <itansh3> stefg: any reccomendations for using wifiradar?
[04:30] <axisys> ikonia: in other words can i increase the number?
[04:30] <ikonia> axisys google it, I can't remember the parameter you need to change, it should be near the top of google
[04:30] <ikonia> I don't have web access so can't check
[04:30] <axisys> ikonia: k
[04:31] <stefg> itansh3: i'm no wireless expert, in fact i try to avoid it whereever possible... slow and insecure
[04:31] <itansh3> i understand
[04:31] <madcheez2> ikonia, how do you not have web access and you are on irc?
[04:31] <riotkittie> ahh. if only i'd sold  a kidney and bought google stock way back when
[04:31] <mnoir> ikonia: don't you think maybe sumpin else is wrong - trying to mount a sevond share should be a non-event
[04:31] <ikonia> madcheez2 web access = web pages - I am connected to the itnernet
[04:31] <madcheez2> ikonia: i see
[04:31] <ubuntux> lol : Since GParted can be a weapon of mass destruction only root may run it.
[04:32] <gerhard> file says: data
[04:32] <gerhard> what does that mean=
[04:32] <ikonia> mnoir possibly - but there is an event if you have read-ahead on
[04:32] <stefg> itansh3: have you tried to assign a fixed IP to your box?
[04:32] <maddash> ikonia, I don't see...are you lacking a browser?
[04:32] <ikonia> mnoir but it could be something else
[04:32] <n2diy> gerhard:  some other file uses it.
[04:32] <mnoir> ikonia: fergot about that...
[04:32] <fromvega> mnoir: I was reading about Plesk, since I'm trying to update a php.ini option for phpMyAdmin without success. That's why I want to avoid control panels.
[04:32] <ikonia> maddash no - I don't have access to the web I'm connected to a remove box, so I could only really use something like lynx
[04:32] <ikonia> which I'm not doing for trawling the web
[04:32] <madcheez2> i have a question: im trying to install a gdm theme, and it wont work... suggestions?
[04:33] <itansh3> fixed IP hmm, i think it has one
[04:33] <maddash> ikonia, wget. lol.
[04:33] <ikonia> madcheez2 give us more detail
[04:33] <jrib> madcheez2: what does it do?
[04:33] <ikonia> defaine won'g work
[04:33] <madcheez2> it says not the correct file format
[04:33] <mnoir> fromvega: if you have commandline access and plesk doesnt do what you want.... yer right
[04:33] <ikonia> maddash for browsing the web...I think not
[04:33] <itansh3> that the same as the IP address i use to connect to it to change settings?
[04:33] <ikonia> madcheez2 I think you have the answer there
[04:33] <gerhard> n2diy, what must I do to make him read it?
[04:33] <madcheez2> hahaha
[04:33] <stefg> itansh3: no... try setting eth1 to 192.168.2.10
[04:33] <itansh3> ok
[04:33] <n2diy> madcheez2:  is this the same box you just hosed with automatix?
[04:33] <madcheez2> ikonia: well yea, but i cant get it to work even after unpacking it
[04:33] <mnoir> fromvega: so the only thing i didn't really show you was how to manually clone a virt domain
[04:34] <bidao> boas
[04:34] <madcheez2> n2diy: yea... rofl
[04:34] <ikonia> madcheez2 you can't install it unpacked
[04:34] <ikonia> madcheez2 the file is the "wrong format"
[04:34] <madcheez2> ikonia: i tried it while it was packed
[04:34] <n2diy> gerhard:  no idea who owns it.
[04:34] <ikonia> madcheez2 but its "the wrong format"
[04:34] <fromvega> mnoir: yes, I have SSH access... I understand that virtual host thing, you put a site in sites-available and make a link to it in sites-enabled, right?
[04:34] <pike_> i have had times when changing the channel on the router worked
[04:35] <mnoir> fromvega: that is it - then bounce apache and you're there
[04:35] <madcheez2> ikonia: well, i understand the error, but i dont know why, i googled it and it told me a work around.. but it still isnt installing...
[04:35] <madcheez2> its weird
[04:35] <ikonia> madcheez2 report it to the person who packaged it
[04:35] <ikonia> the file is in the wrong format.........what more do you want done
[04:35] <madcheez2> k
[04:35] <n2diy> ikonia:  he is/has run automatix
[04:35] <madcheez2> ikonia: nothing... thanks
[04:35] <itansh3> ok that didn't do it
[04:35] <ikonia> n2diy true
[04:35] <mnoir> fromvega: i hope you have your own apache otherwise the bounce may be hard to do
[04:36] <madcheez2> n2diy: i may not have an issue with automatix... some do some dont... why are you blaming it?
[04:36] <stefg> !automatix
[04:36] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:36] <mnoir> madcheez2: cuz it is unreliable
[04:36] <ikonia> madcheez2 he's not blaming it - he's using it to highlight what your up to
[04:36] <stefg> madcheez2: it spoils automatic upgrades, for instance
[04:36] <n2diy> madcheez2:  it has known issues, it breaks Ubuntu.
[04:37] <madcheez2> stefg: well, i wish i would have known about that... i would have never installed it. now, i have, and im not sure how to go back.
[04:37] <n2diy> madcheez2:  and it isn't supported here.
[04:37] <mnoir> madcheez2: how do you KNOW it hasn't screwed you up?
[04:37] <ikonia> madcheez2 reinstall
[04:37] <madcheez2> mnoir: i dont... but neither do you
[04:37] <fromvega> mnoir: yes I have a dedicated server. Something that confuses me is about the user accounts. Suppose that I have created a virtual site and I want to allow ftp access to it to someone. How should I procede?
[04:37] <axisys> i am getting exact same issue http://lkml.org/lkml/2004/4/25/15 .. still looking for a fix
[04:37] <n2diy> madcheez2:  reinstall
[04:37] <stefg> madcheez2: you can always try t run the Live CD and see if the problem is the same
[04:38] <emss> lrm          tmpfs    126M   18M  108M  15% /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/volatile
[04:38] <emss> what is that used for?
[04:38] <stefg> emss: for kernel-modules
[04:38] <emss> ?
[04:38] <madcheez2> i have not completely installed the packages... but im sure automatix is installed
[04:38] <madcheez2> that doesnt mean its jacked my system yet...
[04:38] <ikonia> madcheez2 re-install ubuntu
[04:38] <madcheez2> doh
[04:38] <emss> stefg: exactly what purpose does it serve?
[04:39] <madcheez2> ikonia: no. not until i prove its broken..
[04:39] <un_operateur> fromvega, that'd depend on the authentication mechanisms the ftp server supports -- some auth against real users, others against accounts on LDAP or RADIUS servers
[04:39] <ikonia> madcheez2 we can't support a system that is using  automatix
[04:39] <BoMEpsilon> Hello.
[04:39] <stefg> emss: please have a google search on that
[04:39] <pike_> isnt automatix just a script?
[04:39] <mnoir> fromvega: i am not sure - that prolly is an ftp server issue so you need to know what dserver they(you) are using and how users are configured
[04:39] <n2diy> madcheez2:  you already have.
[04:39] <itansh3> isn't automatix 2 out?
[04:39] <madcheez2> so your telling me, that you wont assist me with anything else until i reinstall ubuntu?
[04:39] <mnoir> fromvega: ftp users are not linux users, necessarily
[04:40] <n2diy> ! automatix | itansh3
[04:40] <ubotu> itansh3: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:40] <ikonia> madcheez2 me presonally yes - the channel - probably too
[04:40] <madcheez2> meh...
[04:40] <itansh3> saw that before, but 2 isn't different?
[04:40] <mvo_> kevin: are you behind a proxy or any other restricted network?
[04:40] <fromvega> mnoir: what do you suggest? With LDAP I can have a centralized place for user accounts right?
[04:40] <mnoir> madcheez2: the problem is, without a known starting point, support is impossible
[04:40] <n2diy> itansh3: we don't support it.
[04:40] <PhillPhorrari> hi all, how are you doing?
[04:40] <itansh3> k
[04:40] <ikonia> PhillPhorrari good thank you
[04:41] <un_operateur> madcheez2, what's the matter?
[04:41] <mnoir> fromvega: yes.  now how does your ftp server talk to it?
[04:41] <n2diy> un_operateur: he installed automatix.
[04:41] <BoMEpsilon> I'm not quite sure what's happening here: you see, on this computer, I just got it out of the "suspend" mode, and then tried to save something in gedit. It gave me an error that it was saving to a "read-only" disk, though it was saving fine last night. The file manager gives me the same error.
[04:41] <madcheez2> mnoir: a known starting point? its still ubuntu with a script ran on it... so your telling me that automatix will void any support from this channel? that aint right...
[04:41] <mnoir> fromvega: i am not an ftp expert :0
[04:41] <ikonia> madcheez2 its pretty fair to say so
[04:41] <stefg> madcheez2: why not boot the Desktop CD and see if you can get your eth1 work from there? if it works you know your system on disk is broken
[04:42] <BoMEpsilon> I also can't start anything in the Administration menu.
[04:42] <mnoir> madcheez2: no.  automatix has changed your starting point in not-necessarily known ways
[04:42] <ikonia> madcheez2 automatrix can break the ubuntu install in subtle ways - how do we know waht it has or hasn't done
[04:42] <madcheez2> i dont have a problem now, other than a gdm theme i cant get installed and i asked for suggestions... my system isnt broken
[04:42] <mnoir> madcheez2: this is just the same as not supporting debian here
[04:42] <axisys> ulimit -a shows open files                      (-n) 1024
[04:42] <axisys> how do I increase it
[04:43] <jrib> madcheez2: link to the thing you are trying to install please
[04:43] <fromvega> mnoir: It's not talking yet hehehe I'm just planning my steps. Virtual hosts ok, now comes the ftp and email part. How about email, how does the integration possible work? To create users for specific virtual domains?
[04:43] <axisys> that may fix the "Too many open files" issue
[04:43] <mnoir> madcheez2: if your system isn't broken then you have no problem and no questions :)
[04:43] <madcheez2> its a gdm theme from gnome-look.org
[04:43] <un_operateur> madcheez2, errm, did you see if the theme was installed as per -- sudo gdmsetup ?
[04:43] <riotkittie> what file type?
[04:43] <jrib> madcheez2: provide a url to it so others can try
[04:43] <madcheez2> mnoir: sure...
[04:43] <riotkittie> how are you tryning to add it?
[04:43] <fromvega> mnoir: I'm planning to use vsftpd for ftp and postfix for email
[04:43] <madcheez2> its in tar.bz2
[04:43] <mnoir> fromvega: email can be even more complicated or less :)
[04:43] <fromvega> mnoir: :\
[04:44] <ikonia> its probably not a gdm theme - probably a metacity theme or something, gnome-look often puts things in the wrong catagory
[04:45] <madcheez2> gimme a sec to get one..
[04:45] <zenwhen> cool
[04:45] <un_operateur> madcheez2, you shold be able to install it using gdmsetup
[04:45] <zenwhen> my laptop bag will be here today
[04:45] <eifzon> hello..
[04:45] <zenwhen> wrong channel, sorry
[04:45] <madcheez2> can i paste the url here?
[04:45] <madcheez2> i dont want to tick anyone off
[04:45] <ikonia> yup
[04:45] <riotkittie> go for it, killer
[04:45] <megatill> huhu, is here somebody who can spek german?
[04:45] <mnoir> fromvega: i could figure it out by hacking for a while but you prolly want to hit support groups for vsftpd and postfix, maybe for webhosters as well
[04:45] <madcheez2> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=51433&PHPSESSID=0fa7eb00aba36378062d5320466a7969
[04:46] <ikonia> !de >megatill
[04:46] <un_operateur> !de | megatill
[04:46] <ubotu> megatill: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:46] <megatill> thx ubotu
[04:46] <madcheez2> basic...
[04:46] <megatill> bye
[04:46] <un_operateur> madcheez2, again -- gdmsetup
[04:46] <mnoir> fromvega: you're close to past the general interests of this channel :)
[04:46] <eifzon> how do i do to use netinstall with ubuntus livecd, i dont want to "start the install"
[04:46] <fromvega> mnoir: hehehe
[04:46] <madcheez2> un_operateur: use gdm setup?
[04:47] <ikonia> eifzon have you get a nethost setup ?
[04:47] <fromvega> mnoir: so do you know any channel or site about that?
[04:47] <bamzin> hi.. the sound of my acer aspire laptop doesnt work on ubuntu 6.10. can anyone help me:
[04:47] <un_operateur> madcheez2, bahh ..  at your terminal  -- gksudo gdmsetup
[04:47] <bamzin> hi.. the sound of my acer aspire laptop doesnt work on ubuntu 6.10. can anyone help me?
[04:47] <ikonia> bamzin we saw you when asked that question less than 10 seconds ago
[04:47] <BoMEpsilon> Hello. I'm not quite sure what's happening here: you see, on this computer, I just got it out of suspension (I usually do that every night), and then tried to save something in gedit. It gave me an error that it was saving to a "read-only" disk, though it was saving fine last night. The file manager gives me the same error whenever I try to change permissions.
[04:47] <eifzon> i got a problem with my socket so i cant start my install, then it just is collored lines all over the screen, so i have to try to update it, ikonia, i got the livecd
[04:48] <eboogie_> eifzon: i'm not you can do a netinstall from the ubuntu cd.  it's a live cd first, and if you want you can install ubuntu 6.10
[04:48] <ikonia> eifzon with your socket ?
[04:48] <eboogie_> *i'm not sure...
[04:48] <riotkittie> eh that file installs for me
[04:48] <madcheez2> ok gdm setup brought me to the menu, but its still not running...
[04:48] <eifzon> i got ubuntu 6.10
[04:48] <mnoir> fromvega: not really...
[04:48] <eifzon> it seems so linux have problem with my socket..
[04:48] <ikonia> eboogie_ so don't make things up then like "I got a problem with my socket"
[04:48] <pike_> BoMEpsilon: reboot would be easiest
[04:48] <ikonia> eifzon whats your "socket"
[04:48] <eifzon> 965
[04:48] <eifzon> intel
[04:48] <eboogie_> eifzon: you can run the live cd, see what works, see what doesn't, then install ubuntu from a desktop icon.
[04:48] <ikonia> ahhh your video card
[04:48] <BoMEpsilon> pike_: I'll try that.
[04:48] <jrib> madcheez2: gdmsetup can also be accessed through system > administration > login window.  What menu are you referring to?
[04:48] <ikonia> eifzon boot in safe graphics mode
[04:48] <eboogie_> :)
[04:49] <eifzon> i tried that, still same problem :s
[04:49] <BoMEpsilon> pike_: Thanks.
[04:49] <ikonia> eifzon use the alt-cd
[04:49] <eboogie_> i came in in the middle of the conversation i guess...
[04:49] <bamzin> ikonia: yes, ive asked the same question on freenode network an hour ago.. and i havents still found a solution. i found a driver to this chipset but the download isnt working at all.. maybe someone here has passed the same problems i am and can give me a final help
[04:49] <fromvega> mnoir: postfix is not a mail server right? for email server I need a SMTP server ?
[04:49] <pike_> BoMEpsilon: sounds like its just mounted r and now rw but i cound be wrong
[04:49] <eifzon> ikonia: the "alt-cd"?
[04:49] <ikonia> eifzon it contains a text based installr
[04:49] <eifzon> ikonia: please url me
[04:49] <stefg> !install
[04:49] <ikonia> bamzin you asked the same question less than 10 seconds apart, thats what I was griping at
[04:49] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[04:49] <un_operateur> fromvega, it is a SMTP server too, sure
[04:49] <mnoir> fromvega: um - i thought postfix was - sec
[04:50] <madcheez2> jrib: the theme menu, it comes up with the new themes, but wont install them. thats my problem. im probably not doing it right...
[04:50] <fromvega> un_operateur: hum... to create user accounts I use postfix too?
[04:50] <Dimensions> hiya i am installing Lilo on MAC .. as dual boot ... when i do apt-get install lilo lilo-docs linux-686-smp linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-686 it says .... lilo isn't available but referred by another application blah blah ....................................
[04:50] <jrib> madcheez2: you just click "add..." and then select the tar.gz you downloaded
[04:50] <ikonia> eifzon don't personal message me please
[04:50] <eifzon> oke
[04:50] <bamzin> ikonia: sorry, i didnt understand what you said, my english sucks :/
[04:50] <eifzon> ikonia: but how do i do?
[04:50] <eifzon> to get a "alt" cd?
[04:50] <un_operateur> fromvega, well, again it depends where postfix looks for authentication -- the system or LDAP or otherwise
[04:50] <ikonia> eifzon use the url that stefg sent you
[04:51] <eifzon> nobody sent me anything
[04:51] <ikonia> they did
[04:51] <stefg> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[04:51] <ikonia> !install
[04:51] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[04:51] <bamzin> !sound
[04:51] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[04:51] <ikonia> eifzon get the alt cd from http://www.ubuntu.com download
[04:51] <fromvega> un_operateur: for instance, suppose that I have a virtual site, mysite.com. How would I create a mailbox me@mysite.com?
[04:51] <maddash> bamzin: did my alsa advice work?
[04:51] <juancg> HOLA
[04:51] <mnoir> fromvega: http://www.postfix.org/ - i am reading.  you definitly need both MDA and MTA  BTW - Dan Bernstein's is very well thought of and he has a war going eith postfix's author
[04:52] <eifzon> ikonia: whats the name of the alt cd then, plx link it'
[04:52] <stefg> ikonia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD holds 'netinst' -Isos
[04:52] <mnoir> eith=with
[04:52] <lupine_85> fromvega: do it with SQL
[04:52] <n2diy> ! es | juancg
[04:52] <ubotu> juancg: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:52] <lupine_85> makes life so much better
[04:52] <ikonia> mnoir DJB is VERY strong with VERY VERY strong views
[04:52] <un_operateur> fromvega, i think it's time to start reading some docs :)
[04:52] <ikonia> eifzon its called "alt" cd
[04:52] <madcheez2> jrib: i did, now how do i select it to run?
[04:52] <fromvega> lupine_85: I create a user table and configure postfix to read from it?
[04:52] <ikonia> eifzon try taking a look before asking me to do it for you
[04:52] <jrib> madcheez2: it should be available to you on that list
[04:52] <lupine_85> yeah. and an aliases and domains table as well
[04:52] <fromvega> un_operateur: yes, sure, just taking some general information to look in the right direction, tks!
[04:53] <un_operateur> fromvega, postfix is quite modular, it has modules for mysql, smtp, ssl, etc etc .. what you chose to enable depends on your setup
[04:53] <bamzin> maddash: ah, hi :) no, it didnt.. all packages are installed and i cant still change the device from oss to alsa on the volume control.. :/ ive found a so-called realtek-linux-audiopack-4.05b.tar.bz but the server connection is like 2kb/s.. still on 19%
[04:53] <mnoir> ikonia: i am sure he would not be my friend but i like his programs :)
[04:53] <ikonia> mnoir I get on "ok" with him when he chooses to respond
[04:53] <mnoir> ikonia: and your opinion is an understatement :)
[04:53] <madcheez2> so, the theme, is it the login window, or is it the windows theme?
[04:54] <SHRIKEE> can anyone recomment me a superduper, easy to use. tutorial to install xgl/beryl on ubuntu edgy?
[04:54] <jrib> madcheez2: login window
[04:54] <droogie> is there any special init.d/configuration file I should add routing information to?
[04:54] <un_operateur> fromvega, it's just that there's no single correct answer to that question -- which is why i pointed you to the docs .. no offence
[04:54] <stefg> !xgl | SHRIKEE
[04:54] <madcheez2> jrib: ok im a dumby
[04:54] <ubotu> SHRIKEE: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:54] <ikonia> SHRIKEE if you need that level, question should you be using xgl with beryl ?
[04:54] <ikonia> which is experimental software
[04:54] <tomix> how do i flush the dns cache in ubuntu?
[04:54] <ikonia> tomix we have talked about his before
[04:54] <SHRIKEE> ikonia, as i understand it beryl runs on xgl?
[04:55] <ikonia> tomix you don't unless your running a dns server
[04:55] <madcheez2> jrib: coming from windows, i was thinking the theme was the windows theme... not the login window..
[04:55] <ikonia> SHRIKEE thats right
[04:55] <lupine_85> sort of
[04:55] <jrib> SHRIKEE: xgl or aiglx
[04:55] <SHRIKEE> right
[04:55] <fromvega> un_operateur: np, what I'm looking for is a centralized place for user accounts from where all the systems could look for authentication.
[04:55] <SHRIKEE> well what do you guys recommend
[04:55] <lupine_85> on some graphics cards, beryl will only run inside an Xgl session
[04:55] <ikonia> SHRIKEE but if you need a super duper easy way to do it - should you be messing with experimental software
[04:55] <lupine_85> wiki.beryl-project.org
[04:55] <stefg> SHRIKEE: you *will* have trouble. Ready to dal with that ? But not here, go to #ubuntu-xgl
[04:55] <fromvega> un_operateur: so now I have to decide, probably I'll use MySQL
[04:55] <un_operateur> fromvega, then you'll need to look into getting postfix and something like open LDAP working hand in hand
[04:55] <SHRIKEE> i have used xgl/compiz before... which worked well, but i heard compiz is discontinued in favor of beryl?
[04:55] <madcheez2> jrib: ok, so since that is the login window theme, how do i alter my window theme?
[04:56] <crot> compiz isn't discontinued.
[04:56] <gili> can someone tell me how to empty roots trash folder
[04:56] <lupine_85> un_operateur: you don't need LDAP for MySQL :)
[04:56] <saturisation> hello
[04:56] <lupine_85> SHRIKEE: who told you that/where did you hear it?
[04:56] <un_operateur> lupine_85, i didnt say you did :)
[04:56] <fromvega> lupine_85: do you think MySQL is the best choice?
[04:56] <lupine_85> for me, it is
[04:56] <jrib> madcheez2: system > preferences > theme.  You want a gtk theme or a metacity theme depending onw aht you mean by "window"
[04:56] <ikonia> fromvega dude - its personal choice
[04:56] <madcheez2> ok thanks
[04:56] <ikonia> fromvega read some docs and make some choices/opinions based on what you read and whats best for you
[04:56] <SHRIKEE> in the opensuse cahnnel someone mentioned that, cant remember who
[04:57] <saturisation> does anyone know how to upgrade from a clean breezy install to dapper?
[04:57] <fromvega> ikonia: what's your personal choice? ok tks!
[04:57] <mnoir> fromvega: mysql is the most popular.  if it does the job it is prolly the right choice
[04:57] <jrib> !upgrade | saturisation
[04:57] <ubotu> saturisation: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:57] <lupine_85> other people will probably say "stfu n00b, use PostgreSQL lam0r", etc
[04:57] <lupine_85> but meh
[04:57] <tuna-fish-> how can I set the message that pops on screen after people login to tty or ssh?
[04:57] <ikonia> lupine_85 can I quote that
[04:57] <pike_> !upgrade | saturisation
[04:57] <lupine_85> if you like
[04:57] <gili> if i go into root nautilus and remove a whole bunch of stuffcan someone tell me how to empty roots trash folder
[04:57] <ikonia> tuna-fish- /etc/issue /etc/motd
[04:57] <saturisation> thanks pike
[04:57] <tuna-fish-> thanks
[04:57] <un_operateur> tuna-fish-, errm edit /etc/motd
[04:57] <gili> do i just delete it?
[04:57] <stefg> tuna-fish-: /etc/issue
[04:58] <stefg> scratch, wrong
[04:58] <stefg> issue is /before/ login
[04:58] <gili> nevermind,,, i got it..
[04:58] <ikonia> stefg no you where right, depends on the console type and connection type
[04:58] <ikonia> hence why I gave both
[04:58] <kevin> I am trying to upgrade edubuntu 6.06 to 6.10. When I run gksu "update-manager -c" it says "your system is up to date" with no upgrade message available. I have the latest version of Update Manager and have dapper-updates repositories in my sources.list. Is it a bug?
[04:58] <ikonia> ssh is set to use /etc/motd
[04:58] <ikonia> but console will do /etc/issue
[04:59] <ikonia> tomix
[04:59] <ikonia> oops
[04:59] <jrib> kevin: what does lsb_release -c  say?
[04:59] <ikonia> sorry
[04:59] <un_operateur> kevin, do you have the edgy repositories enabled in sources.list?
[04:59] <pike_> saturisation: in short "sudo sed -i 's/dapper/edgy/' /etc/apt/sources.list" then sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:59] <jrib> pike_: it's better if you recommend update-manager
[04:59] <ikonia> pike_ thats not the recommended way is it ?
[05:00] <pike_> update-manager -c is correct way right?
[05:00] <saturisation> when trying to upgrade update manager dkpg returns an error in buffer_read(fd)
[05:00] <saturisation> what to do?
[05:00] <kevin> jrib: Codename: dapper
[05:00] <jrib> kevin: pastebin your sources.list
[05:00] <slestak> i am downloading a set of 34 packages using apt-get.  ppp is interrupted halfway through, so the last 10 cannot be downlaoded.  when I restart ppp, apt will want to downlaod the 1st 20 again, is there a way to get it to use its old work and not redownlaod the ones it already has, but hasnt installed yet?
[05:01] <ikonia> slestak should pickup where it left off
[05:01] <maddash> bamzin: did you run alsa-config?
[05:01] <rmartz> Is there a way to autorun an html file on CD insertion?
[05:01] <stefg> slestak: don't worry... the partial downloads will be checked, but not DL'ed again
[05:02] <Sir_Fawnpug> Does anybody know if a nonzero-length syscalls.h ships with stock ubuntu?
[05:02] <ikonia> Sir_Fawnpug read the file
[05:02] <itanshi> is it possible to connect to a wireless network via live cd? ipw2200 driver is preinstalled, anything else needed?
[05:02] <ikonia> itanshi nope
[05:02] <kevin> un_operateur I do not have the edgy repositories in my sources.list, according to the upgrade page, I think this is only necessary for the not recommended apt-get method
[05:02] <ikonia> firmware is with it
[05:02] <bamzin> maddash: do i have to type this on the shell? here it says 'command not found'
[05:02] <Sir_Fawnpug> ikonia, it's zero-length.
[05:03] <itanshi> nope to which question?
[05:03] <maddash> bamzin: did you install alsa-utils?
[05:03] <ikonia> itanshi you can connect to the intenret ising ipw2200
[05:03] <ikonia> you can on the live cd - you need nothing else
[05:03] <maddash> bamzin, and alsa-base? and libesd0-alsa?
[05:03] <itanshi> ah
[05:03] <itanshi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1171/ is what my readout is now
[05:03] <unimatrix9> hi there you all
[05:04] <un_operateur> kevin, errml, apt-get/aptitude has always been my "recommended" way and it has always worked right -- dunno what that is all about
[05:04] <maddash> bamzin, yes, you issue that in a cmd term
[05:04] <unimatrix9> i got some trouble trying to get skins for mplayer ( edgy eft )
[05:04] <unimatrix9> what the dir i should put them in mplayer - skins
[05:04] <rmartz> Is there a way to autorun an html file on CD insertion?
[05:04] <eifzon> ikonia: shall i just install that cd? :)
[05:04] <ikonia> eifzon thats what I told you to do
[05:05] <maddash> ikonia, I went for 6.06, before I dumped ubuntu entirely...
[05:05] <kevin> jrib: http://pastebin.com/856850
[05:05] <ikonia> maddash your rare
[05:05] <n2diy> ikonia: at least there should be a seperate chanel, but then again, we'd have nothing to do.
[05:05] <slestak> stefg: thanks, i verified that is whats happenning.  in this day of broadband, in using a tehtered phone on the edge of my telco's netowrk. 1-2k/sec.  takes me back 10 years, lol
[05:05] <maddash> ikonia, LTS is something to look for.
[05:05] <eifzon> ikonia: y didnt told me?
[05:05] <jrib> unimatrix9: ~/.mplayer/Skin
[05:05] <un_operateur> ikonia, LTS doesnt really suit the common user anyway -- more for businesses and orgs and what-not
[05:05] <ikonia> eifzon i did tell you to install from the alt cd
[05:05] <eifzon> then i take the other cd?
[05:06] <ikonia> eifzon no - install from the alt cd
[05:06] <riotkittie> suits me just fine ;p
[05:06] <eifzon> aha.p..
[05:06] <eifzon> ok
[05:06] <eifzon> bye
[05:06] <bamzin> maddash: yes, but instead of libesd0-alsa ive installed libesd0-dev. is this the same? libesd0-alsa is not on my list, only a libesd0(if i try to install it, a message says that i must remove libesd-alsa0)
[05:06] <stefg> slestak: need a stack of floppies witha 1.x series kernel on it? :-)
[05:06] <unimatrix9> thnx
[05:06] <maddash> bamzin, no, not the same.
[05:06] <maddash> bamzin, fiene, then libed0
[05:06] <maddash> bamzin, fine*
[05:06] <ikonia> un_operateur it doesn't suit the common user because they want "high version numbers" then complain that there is no support for the later stuff they are running
[05:06] <rmartz> Is there a way to autorun an html file upon CD insertion?
[05:06] <ikonia> un_operateur but I know what your saying
[05:06] <bamzin> maddash: okay, so ill install this and the libesd-alsa0 will be removed. one minute
[05:07] <maddash> bamzin, that means you already have libesd-alsa0...keep that, dump libesd0
[05:07] <slestak> stefg: if i wasnt in an industrial hood, i might have some sprint bars.  im in the shadow of a verizon tower, but no evdo for me
[05:07] <maddash> bamzin, either way, run `alsa-config` after the install
[05:07] <maddash> bamzin, oops, make that `alsaconf`
[05:07] <bamzin> aaaaah
[05:08] <itanshi> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1171/ any ideas why it not connecting? i've a linksys router with DHCP on, MAC filter off and i know it works with windows laptops
[05:08] <ikonia> itanshi I don't have web access, sorry
[05:08] <itanshi> k
[05:08] <un_operateur> ikonia, well, in a way, the users who constantly push for the latest and greatest make a good set of guinea-pigs for the alpha and pre-release software/distros .. so, its not all a bad thing
[05:08] <bamzin> maddash: nothing :/ no command found..
[05:09] <jrib> kevin: what if you run:  sudo apt-get update && gksu "update-manager -c"
[05:09] <ikonia> un_operateur not when most of them are morons who count quality in version numbers
[05:09] <rmartz> Is there a way to autorun an html file upon CD insertion?
[05:09] <itanshi> !autorun
[05:09] <maddash> bamzin, er what cmd did you enter in?
[05:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autorun - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:09] <un_operateur> ikonia, actually, as much as it's hard to believe, it's the morons who dictate trends in software and interface design :)
[05:09] <BoMEpsilon> pike_: Restarted.
[05:10] <rmartz> Seems no one knows anything about autorun
[05:10] <wheels3572> Can anyone tell me what this means and if this is a major issue "W: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263"
[05:10] <itanshi> search it
[05:10] <bamzin> maddash: bamzin@bamzin-laptop:~$ alsaconf
[05:10] <un_operateur> rmartz, autorun is a windows thing :)
[05:10] <Azul> !windows
[05:10] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[05:10] <maddash> bamzin, what version? edgy?
[05:10] <ikonia> un_operateur I know but this sort of thing "I want to run 2.6.20" "why" "because its newer and better" is just starting to get a bit tired
[05:10] <slestak> itanshi: what wifi card do you have?
[05:10] <bamzin> maddash: yes, edgy eft
[05:10] <ikonia> rmartz it is possible - look at how the ubuntu live cd does it
[05:10] <bamzin> weird, uh? :/
[05:10] <wheels3572> I LOVE that Ubotu comment Azul lol
[05:10] <itanshi> i've intel 200 so ipw2200 is th eright driver
[05:10] <Azul> why is ubotu mad?
[05:10] <itanshi> er 2200
[05:11] <rmartz> So is a gui. I assume there is no autorun in ubuntu?
[05:11] <un_operateur> ikonia, well, there is a reason 2.6.20 was released no .. and if it werent for the undying enthusiasm for the latest/greatest .. things'd go stale and ubuntu would become another debian :)
[05:11] <ikonia> itanshi ipw200 is the right driver
[05:11] <Azul> i wanna know how to install grub after windows
[05:11] <BoMEpsilon> pike_: Didn't go as well as I was expecting. It said "/dev/hda3 contains filesystem with errors, check forced".
[05:11] <jrib> !grub | Azul
[05:11] <ubotu> Azul: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:11] <riotkittie>  i wish there was a(n easy) way to create multiple sets of swapable panels
[05:11] <kevin> jrib, I ran that, then update manager said everything was up to date. I do get an error in the terminal that says: apt API not stable yet
[05:11] <Mikey> is there a way to force acpi? or force dettect?
[05:11] <Azul> thanks a lot jrib
[05:11] <ikonia> un_operateur not sure I agreee on that - in terms of a distro I mean, users who want it for reasons yet, users who want to show uname -a to their mates - no
[05:11] <Azul> you're a life saver
[05:11] <itanshi> 200? i typoed, 2200 is correct
[05:11] <slestak> itanshi: do you have wep or wpa enabled, i noticed in your iwconfig output "Rx invalid crypt:5"
[05:11] <ikonia> Mikey with regards to what
[05:12] <itanshi> wep
[05:12] <pike_> BoMEpsilon: after check is it ok?
[05:12] <wheels3572> jrib, good morning man :).  W: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263   What does that mean and is that major?  I got that error when I was doing updates this morning and I hit the check button
[05:12] <un_operateur> ikonia, computers have always made great show-off toys .. and there's no changing that :)
[05:12] <rmartz> ikonia, I have searched the help files and posted to the forums. No one seems to be able to say.
[05:12] <ikonia> un_operateur I suppose
[05:12] <BoMEpsilon> pike_: Nope. After that, it said "Inodes that were part of corrupted orphan linked list found."
[05:12] <itsmabus> wheels3572: did you recently add a repository?
[05:12] <BoMEpsilon> pike_: It then returned the error "UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY: Run fsck MANUALLY"
[05:12] <pike_> BoMEpsilon: bah you dont need those inodes anyway ;p
[05:12] <Mikey> ikonia: with regatds that i would like to monitor my cpu temp, acpi isnt started, and ppl are having problems with acpi on edgy
[05:13] <wheels3572> itsmabus, no not at all.  # one out but not add nothing
[05:13] <ikonia> Mikey is it supported on your hardware
[05:13] <BoMEpsilon> pike_: But the thing is, when it asked me to run fsck manually, to do so, I needed the root password.
[05:13] <ikonia> pike_ inodes are for l00s3rs
[05:13] <Mikey> it worked on windows, and in slax i think
[05:13] <swami> hi anyoane has vmware on his machine?
[05:13] <itsmabus> wheels3572: I've never heard of that repo efore
[05:13] <ikonia> Mikey that means nothing
[05:13] <BoMEpsilon> pike_: And since the root is disabled by default, I don't have it. So Ubuntu won't start.
[05:13] <itsmabus> before
[05:13] <un_operateur> rmartz, did you even bother to google? first link -- http://research.silmaril.ie/autoruncd/
[05:13] <swami>  hi anyoane has vmware on his machine?
[05:14] <wheels3572> itsmabus, makes 2 of us lol
[05:14] <ikonia> swami i have done in the paste
[05:14] <itsmabus> wheels3572: have you exported the gpg key for that repository?
[05:14] <ikonia> swami leave it a few minuts before asking again
[05:14] <Mikey> ikonia: is there a way to dettect it? so i can say for sure that isnt non existent?
[05:14] <bamzin> maddash: do you think it would worth installing 6.06 and giving up this 6.10?
[05:14] <ikonia> Mikey detect it ????? what are you talking about
[05:14] <itsmabus> wheels3572: edit /etc/apt/sources.lst .. I think that's the file, I'm on my gentoo system right now not ubuntu
[05:14] <wheels3572> itsmabus, did what?  Huh lol?
[05:14] <ikonia> Mikey see if its supported on your hardware
[05:14] <riotkittie> BoMEpsilon: sudo fsck doest work?
[05:14] <maddash> bamzin, no, I just realized that alsaconf has been removed since warty
[05:14] <itsmabus> wheels3572: just remove that repo, you don't need it
[05:14] <wheels3572> itsmabus, ok will do
[05:15] <BoMEpsilon> riotkittie: I did try that, but it said the sudo command couldn't be found.
[05:15] <wheels3572> itsmabus, that's what I was wondering.  ok ty
[05:15] <maddash> bamzin, try `sudo alsaconf`
[05:15] <swami>  hi anyoane has vmware on his machine?
[05:15] <itanshi> i've wep encrption (i'm familiar with the contradiction in terms, i'm not admin tho i have access)
[05:15] <swami> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1171/
[05:15] <ikonia> swami I told you I had - whats the problem
[05:15] <BoMEpsilon> Oh, I forgot. This all happened about a third of the way into starting Ubuntu, when the progress bar first shows up. It gave this all without any GUI.
[05:15] <t325> Hello, I deleted the /var folder and ubuntu doesn't seem to like it.. Can someone please tell me the list of folders it contains by default?
[05:15] <craigbass1976> Anyone using an intel Pro 3945 in their laptops with success?  Is it supported int he kernel, or is there a rigamorole to get it going?
[05:15] <wheels3572> !sources.list wheels3572
[05:15] <bamzin> maddash: command not found
[05:15] <ikonia> swami explain the problem I don't have web access
[05:15] <ikonia> t325 re-install
[05:16] <craigbass1976> t325, yeah, ubuntu doesn't like that
[05:16] <snail> t325: there's a lot of imprtant stuff there
[05:16] <ikonia> craigbass1976 do you mean in the console - or in X
[05:16] <itsmabus> !repository
[05:16] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:16] <itsmabus> !source-o-matic
[05:16] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:16] <swami> i have a problem with my windows on my vmware server
[05:16] <itsmabus> wheels3572: ^
[05:16] <swami> on ubuntu
[05:16] <maddash> bamzin: install libasound2...then chk out /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf
[05:16] <ikonia> swami ok - whats the problem
[05:17] <snail> t325: alternatively you can "apt-get install --reinstall <list of all your installed packages>"
[05:17] <swami> on ubuntuy i have sound
[05:17] <swami> i have sound
[05:17] <ikonia> swami ok
[05:17] <swami> but on the windows in the vmware i don';t
[05:17] <pike_> BoMEpsilon: i would think knoppix or ubuntu livecd.
[05:17] <ikonia> swami possible windows can't access your sound hardware directly
[05:17] <pike_> easiest
[05:17] <craigbass1976> ikonia, I'm going to put a bid in on a large laptop deployment and don't want troubl.  I like my broadcom card, as it just works.  I want to know if the intel is like that.
[05:17] <swami> ubuntu =yes windows emulated on vmware no
[05:17] <un_operateur> wheels3572, i think this should do it -- gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 58403026387EE263 && gpg --export --armor 58403026387EE263 | sudo apt-key add -
[05:17] <swami> hmm///
[05:17] <BoMEpsilon> pike_: I should reinstall, or just run the CD?
[05:17] <ikonia> craigbass1976 oooh the wirless card
[05:17] <stefg> swami: wrong channel... your ubuntu works, as you've just said... so see if #vmware can help you
[05:17] <BoMEpsilon> pike_: Sorry, a bit new to all of this. :P
[05:18] <ikonia> craigbass1976 thought you meant the video card
[05:18] <ikonia> craigbass1976 you may want to check the hardware compatability list
[05:18] <ikonia> !hcl | craigbass1976
[05:18] <ubotu> craigbass1976: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:18] <Azul> interesting bug > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1
[05:18] <pike_> BoMEpsilon: those kind of problems start to get a little over my head. but its possible it can be repaired from livecd
[05:18] <bamzin> maddash: its already installed. what do i have to check on this alsa.conf?
[05:18] <swami> tanks..i enter there
[05:18] <Mikey> ikonia: my hardware is ancient, i have no idea if it does
[05:19] <BoMEpsilon> pike_: Alright. I'll see if I can do something from there.
[05:19] <maddash> bamzin it's the config file for alsa. perhaps there's something there that causes your problem. open it up in a text editor.
[05:19] <joshua__> hello, apt-get and dpkg won't install anything: ailed in buffer_read(fd): files list for package `gtk2-engines-pixbuf': Input/output error
[05:19] <jrib> kevin: hmm I'm grepping the update-manager source to figure out how it decides when it us up to date, but can you try changing ftp to http, apt-get update, and see if that matters?
[05:19] <bamzin> maddash: its opened
[05:19] <OzQu> I have a question: Why I can't join in channels wich have  in its name? And how can I fix this problem?
[05:20] <craigbass1976> ubotu, Ahh, looks like I'm in luck.
[05:20] <stefg> joshua__: corrupt filesystem?
[05:20] <ikonia> OzQu thisi s nothing to do with ubuntu
[05:20] <ikonia> OzQu readup on how to use irc / irc clients
[05:20] <joshua__> stefg: how can i check and/or correct that problem?
[05:20] <snail> joshua__: is your disk full or in need of a fsck?
[05:20] <bamzin> maddash: see this http://uk.blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-kLgobDE_cqVv1JH8Yrs5u0AOygiyr1iiv0erhcaU_BKG?p=5 that guy had the same problem.. ive finished downloading that file. how do i install this .bz2 thing?
[05:20] <snail> joshua__: fsck your disk
[05:20] <jpass> oZQu, if you are on windows you can use Trillian for IRC. easy to use
[05:20] <craigbass1976> ikonia, I just replied to ubotu, didn't know he was not an organic member of the chat room.  Thanks though, I think this card will work.
[05:21] <OzQu> I use Ubuntu :P
[05:21] <maddash> bamzin, you're probably going to have to compile it...
[05:21] <stefg> joshua__: boot in single mode and do a fsck on your drive
[05:21] <ikonia> craigbass1976 good man
[05:21] <ikonia> craigbass1976 hope it goes well
[05:21] <maddash> bamzin, try `man aplay`
[05:21] <OzQu> when I used Windows I were able to go channels with 
[05:21] <jpass> anyone do any multi-track recording with Ubuntu?
[05:21] <joshua__> stefg: will do that, see ya in a minute or two!
[05:21] <maddash> bamzin, I think that's ubuntu's equivalent to alsaconf
[05:21] <bamzin> maddash: the man aplay opened something here
[05:21] <n2diy> jpass: audacity
[05:21] <craigbass1976> We'll see.  The job is already being negotiated with MS and Apple, but I'm pretty sure with good laptops and no licensing agreements I can lowball them.
[05:22] <jpass> yea i'm having trouble getting audactity to see my sound card
[05:22] <craigbass1976> See you later
[05:22] <jpass> it plays back ok
[05:22] <jpass> but recording is stumped
[05:22] <ikonia> craigbass1976 make sure its supported ounder 6.0.6 - if its business use LTS
[05:22] <n2diy> jpass: shure your mic is good?
[05:22] <ikonia> damn too late
[05:22] <jpass> yea
[05:22] <jpass> it's my sound card
[05:22] <swami> how do i write private messages?
[05:23] <maddash> bamzin, ok, does `aplay -l` give you the proper sound device?
[05:23] <jpass> i have a pcmcia card so it's not the system sound card
[05:23] <un_operateur>  /msg someone
[05:23] <ikonia> swami depends on your client
[05:23] <n2diy> jpass: try switching from mic in to line in?
[05:23] <maddash> bamzin, this (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems) page might help...
[05:23] <bamzin> maddash: yes, it lists my audio devices correctly
[05:23] <n2diy> jpass: a pcmcia sound card?
[05:24] <joshua__> stefg: How do i boot in 'single mode'
[05:24] <stefg> !boot
[05:24] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[05:24] <lupine_85> append 'single' to the kernel boot line
[05:24] <un_operateur> joshua__, sudo telinit 1
[05:24] <joshua__> stefg: i'm in GRUB menu now...?
[05:25] <ikonia> would someone wipe my bottom for me - everyone else seems to want their wiped
[05:25] <ikonia> joshua__ he's JUST posted you a link
[05:25] <lupine_85> joshua__: press 'e' on a boot option, scroll to the line beginning 'kernel', hit 'e' again, scroll to the end, add the work 'single'
[05:25] <cstextiles> Which URL for Java RE distribution which is right for me out of the available packages listed at http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/s/sun-java5/
[05:25] <lupine_85> word*
[05:25] <rogue780> how do you see how much space is free on a partition?
[05:26] <lupine_85> cstextiles: none of those
[05:26] <pike_> rogue780: df -h
[05:26] <lupine_85> !java
[05:26] <jrib> rogue780: df -h
[05:26] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:26] <ikonia>              cstextiles thats debian
[05:26] <stefg> rogue780: df -h
[05:26] <un_operateur> !info sun-java5
[05:26] <ubotu> Package sun-java5 does not exist in any distro I know
[05:26] <stefg> !java
[05:26] <kevin> jrib !!! I changed the sources.list to http and update manager now recognizes an updgrade! The other thing I did was export the http_proxy so that apt-get would connect through http, so not sure what step fixed it, I tried changing the sources.list back to ftp and upgrade manager still shows the upgrade
[05:27] <jrib> kevin: well I took a look at the source, it reads http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release to figure out the updates.  So you would need http to work
[05:27] <un_operateur> cstextiles, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=java5&searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all
[05:27] <ubunbb> Somebody already had problem with driver nvidia (motherboard pcchips)? When initiates the X the screen is black and the monitor 'turn off'. 6.06 LTS
[05:28] <ikonia> ubunbb initiates the what ?
[05:28] <stefg> !fixres | ubunbb
[05:28] <ubotu> ubunbb: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:29] <joshua__> stefg: when running 'fsck' i get a warning: Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause SEVERE filesystem damage... should i just continue?
[05:29] <ikonia> joshua__ no
[05:29] <stefg> joshua__: no..
[05:29] <ikonia> joshua__ do it from single user mode - as you where told
[05:29] <hugo> salut aller sur mon blog hugolf.over-blog.com et sans les www
[05:30] <jrib> !fr | hugo
[05:30] <ubotu> hugo: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:30] <un_operateur> hugo, errm, pourquoi?
[05:30] <n2diy> Haven't tried this in awhile. How can I install Ubuntu, that can't boot from the CD, and to install a floppy drive, I have to remove the CD?
[05:30] <joshua__> ikonia: Did that, ended up with a command line (root@my-pc)
[05:30] <itanshi> one more time, I've a dell inspiron 700m intel wireless 2200 centrino card and tho i have the driver and the network name/ password setup http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1171/ it does not connect (DHCP on, MAC filter off, i know it works on other windows laptops)
[05:30] <ikonia> joshua__ so are you now in single user mode ?
[05:31] <eboogie_> you can also restart X by "Ctrl-Alt-Backspace", right?
[05:31] <itanshi> mm i'll wait for josh to finish
[05:31] <noodles12> I installed emifreq-applet to lower the clock speed of my cpu for battery life, but it wouldn't let me change power settings and it was stuck on performance. I uninstalled that applet but my cpu is sitll stuck at max. how can i change it back?
[05:31] <ikonia> eboogie_ yup
[05:31] <cstextiles> So For my Intel 386 Machine this link http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/s/sun-java5/sun-java5-bin_1.5.0-10-1_i386.deb is appropriate for me
[05:31] <cstextiles> ?
[05:31] <ikonia> cstextiles depends what you and your application want to do
[05:31] <joshua__> ikonia: i followed the instructions, added 'single' to a kernel line and booted, ubuntu booted with a it's splash screen and i ended up with the command-line... never been in single user mode so you tell me
[05:31] <hugo> Va sur mon blog
[05:31] <jrib> cstextiles: why don't you just use APT?
[05:31] <ubunbb> I followed this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[05:31] <ikonia> joshua__ show me who -r
[05:32] <HymnToLife> itanshi, have you tried    sudo dhclient eth1   ?
[05:32] <un_operateur> cstextiles, you should just enable the multiverse respository and use apt to install the package
[05:32] <itanshi> i'll try
[05:32] <fxr> hi, whats the smallest spec machine i could get ubuntu running on reasonaly well?
[05:32] <cstextiles> I ahve problem that My Linux Machine cannot access internet as it is situated at a remote location
[05:32] <ikonia> ubunbb well done for not reading the URL sent to you and just continuing on with your ramblings
[05:32] <un_operateur> !multiverse | cstextiles
[05:32] <ubotu> cstextiles: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:32] <cstextiles> and so I have to download that machine
[05:32] <lupine_85> joshua__: you're in single user mode
[05:32] <lupine_85> careful what you do
[05:32] <fxr> i thinking of buying a cheap laptop 550mhz celeron processor with 64mb.. should it run ok on that?
[05:32] <hugo> je ne comprend que le franais
[05:32] <stefg> fxr: ubuntu, or one of its flavors?
[05:32] <un_operateur> cstextiles, but apt might require extra dependencies for that particular package
[05:33] <brunogsimoes> hey guys
[05:33] <ikonia> fxr dog slow
[05:33] <jrib> cstextiles: cstextiles use packages.ubuntu.com, it will list dependencies too.  YOu'll need those as well
[05:33] <lupine_85> nah
[05:33] <Iceyes> Any tip of a good proxy server ?
[05:33] <joshua__> lupine_85: alright, what to do now, need to check if my filesystem's not corrupted...
[05:33] <lupine_85> well
[05:33] <lupine_85> the RAM is a bit low
[05:33] <ikonia> Iceyes squid
[05:33] <Azul> what is a proxy server?
[05:33] <lupine_85> joshua__: you need / to be unmounted to do a proper check. single user mode won't cut it
[05:33] <tuskernini> !proxy
[05:33] <ikonia> Azul a service that sends or "proxies" information for you
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proxy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <fxr> ikonia too slow? stefg any flavour really.. just want it for internet access..
[05:33] <un_operateur> google "define:proxy" :)
[05:33] <lupine_85> get a livecd in
[05:33] <ikonia> lupine_85 boot from cd
[05:33] <ikonia> I thought he was doing /var
[05:34] <fxr> what sort of minimum specs am i lookin at?
[05:34] <mena> what if i install ubuntu then i installes kubuntu and i liked kubuntu than ubuntu is there were a problem if i remove ubuntu .....
[05:34] <itanshi> updated: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1174/
[05:34] <cstextiles> So I need to download that dependencies also but can i get the list of packages which are by default installed on a normal ubuntu machine?
[05:34] <lupine_85> ok, in that case jsust fsck <devicefile>
[05:34] <ubuntux> someone installed new ati driver already?
[05:34] <jrib> mena: no
[05:34] <lupine_85> fxr: at least 256MB RAM
[05:34] <ikonia> mena they will install over the top of each other
[05:34] <knight> !thanks
[05:34] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[05:34] <tuskernini> Azul, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_server
[05:34] <lupine_85> you can get by on a 600/700MHz processor
[05:34] <stefg> fxr: i'd consider 256 MB and a P3 (5-600 MHz) the minimum for a usable ubuntu
[05:34] <dc2447> anyone know how to EXCLUDE a directory using LocationMatch in apache?
[05:34] <mena> jrib, sure bec we talked about this too much ..i know ^_^
[05:34] <jrib> cstextiles: this site may be helpful http://ljl.byethost14.com/apt
[05:34] <Azul> those IT terms keep popin up
[05:34] <ikonia> dc2447 /join #apache
[05:34] <knight> hi ubotu
[05:35] <lupine_85> that said, I've used kubuntu with 128MB RAM
[05:35] <kevin> jrib, thanks, why are there so many places to set the http proxy? I also have it set under network proxy in System->Preferences
[05:35] <fxr> ok noted thanks folks...
[05:35] <lupine_85> it works, but it somewhat painful
[05:35] <mena> ikonia, okay
[05:35] <stefg> 1000 users online!
[05:35] <un_operateur> cstextiles, there is no easy way to do this -- you need to manually download all the dependencies (and theirs and so on) as listed here http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/devel/sun-java5-demo
[05:35] <mneptok> day-yum
[05:35] <noodles12> how do i slow down my processor? it is stuck at max speed.
[05:35] <Iceyes> how do i setup from an external adress like apt-get install ?
[05:35] <jrib> kevin: I don't know.  I thought the gui way also took care of the others, but I don't use a proxy so I'm not sure
[05:35] <tuskernini> Azul, it is a place closer to your pc where your history is saved... and then you have quicker access to the information next time round
[05:36] <joshua__> ikonia: If i put in a install-cd... can i run fsck from there?
[05:36] <ikonia> joshua__ yup
[05:36] <Azul> tuskernini, that feels better thanks
[05:36] <un_operateur> joshua__, why don't you just descend down into single user mode -- sudo init 1
[05:36] <jrib> un_operateur: ljl wrote an easy way :)
[05:36] <ikonia> exit
[05:36] <ikonia> exit
[05:36] <kevin> jrib, thanks for your help, you've truly been a blessing!
[05:37] <un_operateur> jrib, ok, and that was? :)
[05:37] <n2diy> Last time today.  How can I install Ubuntu, on a machine that can't boot from the CD, and to install a floppy drive, I have to remove the CD?
[05:37] <Iceyes> what command do i use instead of apt-get install when i use an external http:// adress?
[05:37] <jrib> un_operateur: http://ljl.byethost14.com/apt
[05:37] <lupine_85> !install
[05:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[05:37] <jrib> kevin: np
[05:37] <stefg> n2diy: tricky
[05:37] <riotkittie> n2diy:  change boot order in BIOS?
[05:37] <riotkittie> oh wait. never mind.
[05:37] <un_operateur> jrib, neat :)
[05:38] <joshua__> ikonia: placed the install cd, what to type at boot: ?
[05:38] <tuskernini> Azul, or blue... no problem
[05:38] <n2diy> stefg:  yes, but I did shoe horn FC1 on it. riotkittie it won't boot from a cd rom.
[05:38] <stefg> n2diy: Ermm.... i'd put DOS on the hd, boot a kernel with loadlin and hen mount the cdrom manually
[05:39] <stefg> !install
[05:39] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[05:39] <riotkittie> :>
[05:39] <n2diy> stefg: I'll give it a try.
[05:39] <itanshi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1174/ is what i got from doing that last command, it didn't find any dhcp data tho it is there
[05:39] <tuskernini> ffmpeg!
[05:40] <tuskernini> !ffmpeg
[05:40] <ubotu> ffmpeg: multimedia player, server and encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:0.cvs20060823-3.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 175 kB, installed size 612 kB
[05:40] <Hoobly> Installation help needed.
[05:40] <itanshi> !install
[05:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[05:40] <noodles12> !cpu
[05:40] <ubotu> cpu: a console based LDAP user management tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.3-8 (edgy), package size 137 kB, installed size 432 kB
[05:40] <Hoobly> Have installed from the Live CD of ubuntu 6.10 and when booting, I simply get a blinking cursor
[05:40] <noodles12> !processor
[05:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about processor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:41] <stefg> n2diy: or check if you can get the SM-floppy on the hd, so you can boot frm CD by this
[05:41] <cstextiles> Is there any way to find whether the package is installed by default in Edgy release? so that i do not have to download all the packages?
[05:41] <stefg> *SBM-floppy
[05:41] <Azul> i wanna read 50 books in 2007
[05:41] <yukio> Sorry, It is safe to remove totem-mozilla even if it erases ubuntu-desktop?
[05:41] <joshua__> how can i perform fsck, i'm running the install-cd...
[05:41] <Hoobly> after install is complete from graphics mode, it fails to boot and I get a blinking cursor
[05:41] <jrib> cstextiles: did you try the site I gave you?  A package installed by default is a dependency of ubuntu-desktop
[05:41] <Elive_user22> need help with isntalling sybase ,,, any idea what room to go to?
[05:41] <stefg> joshua__: Desktop CD taht is?
[05:42] <el-sio> hi there
[05:42] <cstextiles> yes i tried that site and it gives a host of dependencies
[05:42] <n2diy> stefg: sm? super small linux?
[05:42] <jrib> cstextiles: did you enter "ubuntu-desktop" as your meta package?
[05:42] <BoMEpsilon> pike_: I'm on the ubuntu CD right now.
[05:42] <joshua__> stefg: it's not a desktop cd, i'm getting a prompt (which says: boot: ?)
[05:42] <stefg> n2diy: Smart Boot Manager
[05:42] <un_operateur> yukio, you can remove both quite safely -- only thing is you'll have no multimedia support in your browsers
[05:42] <n2diy> stefg: sm? ahh, thanks.
[05:42] <cstextiles> But the probs is that I will have to  download all the dependencies
[05:42] <stefg> !smart boot manager
[05:42] <adub> error: unknown field owner specified in initializer    <--- im getting this error
[05:43] <stefg> !smartbootmanager
[05:43] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[05:43] <cstextiles> ok let me enter that
[05:43] <yukio> un_operateur: i was thinking about mozilla-mplayer
[05:43] <stefg> n2diy: the last link of ubotus comment is the one
[05:43] <pike_> BoMEpsilon: id try fsck
[05:43] <un_operateur> yukio, i'm talking about it too .. you'll need to replace the functionality it provides to your browsers
[05:43] <n2diy> stefg: roger.
[05:44] <pike_> BoMEpsilon: make sure you umount it
[05:44] <yukio> un_operateur: i see, thanks
[05:44] <joshua__> stefg: should i run a live cd or can I (somehow) get a command-line with the install-cd (btw: breezy)
[05:44] <BoMEpsilon> pike_: The partition in question was /dev/hda3...I'm looking in the Partition Editor now, and it says it's unmounted.
[05:44] <cstextiles> jrib: this list after entering ubuntu-desktop package gives me a list of only thos packages which are to be installed? Am I correct
[05:45] <un_operateur> joshua__, if i were you, i'd go straight to runlevel 1 (i.e. single user mode)
[05:45] <pike_> BoMEpsilon: id just sudo fsck.ext3 /dev/hda3
[05:45] <stefg> joshua__: performng a fsck on a disk is a very basic administartive task. There should be a lot of documentation available on the net
[05:45] <jrib> cstextiles: yes, in theory though the site is pretty new
[05:45] <BoMEpsilon> pike_: Alright.
[05:45] <BoMEpsilon> pike_: Thanks a lot for this, by the way.
[05:46] <pike_> BoMEpsilon: np.  i might not be a great deal of help with this though
[05:46] <joshua__> stefg, un_operateur, thanks for the help, will scourche the net... :)
[05:46] <asanti> has anyone faced the gui setup error before starting the installation on a dual monitor system?
[05:47] <jamesbrose> How can I generate my own self signed ssl in xampp?
[05:47] <Rambo3> !info openSSL
[05:47] <un_operateur> jamesbrose, errm, therre's quite a few openssl howto's on that topic
[05:47] <ubotu> openssl: Secure Socket Layer (SSL) binary and related cryptographic tools. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.8b-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 970 kB, installed size 2288 kB
[05:47] <roler> I have had choppy dvd playback for a while now. Everyone asks, is DMA enabled? I thought it was but recently I found out it was not. This is due to my SATA CD-ROM Laptop that uses IDE Emulation, and the device is /dev/sr0 too. I've found a few HOWTOs on google for enabling it, but they all talk about older kernels than 2.6.17 and patches, data corruption, etc. Is there an easy way to enable dma on SATA?
[05:47] <pike_> what do you guys use for backup imaging? dd| gzip?
[05:48] <iain> What cd should I get for installing on a low-ram system?
[05:48] <cstextiles> jrib: It shows that I also require odbcinst1debian1 Package and so I think there may be some bugs as that package is not listed in ubuntu Packages Dependency list
[05:48] <Rambo3> jamesbrose i dont know what xampp is but i use apache-ssl to generate sll keys
[05:48] <iain> Alternate or server?
[05:48] <stefg> !backup | pike_:
[05:48] <ubotu> pike_:: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[05:48] <un_operateur> pike_, I rarely need dd -- it's mostly tar.gz/.tgz
[05:48] <jamesbrose> un_operateaur, could you point me to one?
[05:49] <Rambo3> jamesbrose use apache wraper for that  , go to wiki and search for ssl , it second from the bottom answer
[05:49] <un_operateur> jamesbrose, http://www.google.com/search?num=100&complete=1&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=openssl+certificate+generation&btnG=Search
[05:49] <iain> Does anyone know whether I should use the alternate or server CD for a low-end PC?
[05:49] <jrib> cstextiles: unixodbc is though and that depends on odbcinst1debian1
[05:50] <Rambo3> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/server/apache2/SSL?highlight=%28ssl%29
[05:51] <n2diy> How can I find a list of other Ubuntu channels?
[05:51] <mneptok> iain: do you want a GUI?
[05:51] <iain> mneptok: I will occasionally start X to do something, but mostly no.  And I can apt-get X myself.
[05:51] <stefg> roler: does hdparm -d1 /dev/sr0 enable DMA, if you issue that from conole?
[05:51] <cstextiles> jrib: Ya but unixodbc is not listed in the depency list of http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/libs/sun-java5-jre
[05:51] <iain> I just want a minimal system (but hopefully with working hardware)
[05:51] <mneptok> iain: Xubuntu?
[05:52] <iain> mneptok: No, just the command line
[05:52] <lsv> hey uhh, anyone around that knows how to get a bash script to use " or ' characters properly?
[05:52] <jrib> cstextiles: it is for sun-java5-bin
[05:52] <mneptok> iain: server.
[05:52] <stefg> iain: see !install for minimal images for net-install
[05:52] <iain> mneptok: OK.  What/s alternate for?
[05:52] <stefg> !install
[05:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[05:52] <cstextiles> ya that's true
[05:52] <n2diy> lsv: man bash.
[05:52] <mneptok> iain: ncurses-based installer of the default
[05:53] <iain> Oh
[05:53] <cstextiles> jrib:Thanks jrib for wonderful link
[05:53] <jrib> cstextiles: my suggestion is, "try it" :)  If it works, great.  If not, then you have to do a bit more work
[05:53] <freakabcd> hi all
[05:53] <aleff> is there a reason for ubuntu linux-source-2.6.17 be different from current linux-image-2.6.17???
[05:53] <iain> Thx mneptok
[05:53] <quiet> hey guys, I have a friend that I'm trying to get switched over to Ubuntu... he lives several states away though(IL to AZ).. when he boots the livecd, firefox won't connect to any websites, it just times out... He has Qwest DSL and their technical support walked him through some stuff, and determined that he is getting an IP just fine and whatnot... I've never used DSL, only cable or t-1/3 lines... can anyone offer some advice?  I have him rebooting r
[05:53] <quiet> ight now to write down the results of ifconfig -a and ping -c 5 www.google.com  for me..
[05:53] <aleff> the source appears to be 2.6.17.14 and the binary is 2.6.17.10
[05:53] <lsv> n2diy: I have yet when using " or ' in scripts my commands are not put through?
[05:53] <freakabcd> eberytime i try to install a package t says 'not authenticated, do you want to continue?'
[05:53] <freakabcd> i dist-upgraded from dapper to edgy
[05:53] <n2diy> lsv: man bash.
[05:54] <lsv> mmmk
[05:54] <freakabcd> do i need to do something about the gpg keys ?
[05:54] <roler> stefg; no. It reports that the ioctl for enabling DMA is not supported. I'm on a website now that talks about using ata_piix instead of ide-generic. I'm looking at that now
[05:54] <stefg> aleff: yes... security patches and overstressed and/or lazy maintainers :-)
[05:54] <iain> If I got the minimal CD, would I have to install everything manually or would it pull down a predefined list from the net?
[05:54] <quiet> iain, what minimal cd?
[05:54] <iain> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[05:54] <snail> freakabcd: probably. have you googled for this?
[05:54] <Hoobly> after successfully installing from the live cd in graphics mode, I get a blinking cursor upon boot and nothing else.  Any ideas?
[05:54] <freakabcd> snail, nope.
[05:54] <aleff> stefg: damn it. i have to build the whole kernel just to be able to build my webcam module
[05:55] <freakabcd> i don;t know what to search in google!!
[05:55] <Rambo3> !netinstall
[05:55] <aleff> ov511
[05:55] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[05:55] <stefg> iain: not sure if there is something like dselect on the mini-image
[05:55] <snail> freakabcd: then why are you hassling us about it?
[05:55] <joshua__> stefg: fsck has run with following results: unexpected inconsistency
[05:55] <freakabcd> snail, cos you might know what i need to search for?
[05:55] <iain> Alright I'll just get the server ISO
[05:55] <iain> thx again
[05:55] <joshua__> stefg: how do i repair the fs?
[05:55] <stefg> joshua__: there you have your problem
[05:55] <Azul> !fcsk
[05:55] <joshua__> i guess so :p
[05:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fcsk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:55] <quiet> hrm... neat... iain, it will download and install a predefined set of packages for a base system... similar to the debian netinst cd
[05:55] <snedar> hi! in ubuntu edgy, my nvidia 6800xt's fan is spinning too low, causing the card to get too hot and my system reacting slowly. I don't have the problem in windows, where I run ASUS SmartDoctor.  does anyone know whether I could fix the problem? nvclock doesn't support my video card for setting the fan speed
[05:55] <lsv> n2diy: thank you i did not do a search for quoting but there it all is ty
[05:56] <n2diy> lsv: nada
[05:56] <brunogsimoes> i had i program in /usr/share/prg/exec
[05:56] <roler> It appears edgy is already using it...
[05:56] <brunogsimoes> how can i use it in konsole just doing exec
[05:57] <n2diy> brunogsimoes: just type the name of the program?
[05:57] <joshua__> if i run fsck manually i get: Error reading block (Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in hort read) while doing inode scan...
[05:57] <stefg> joshua__: fsck tries to recover automatically what's possible. If it can't do, the optuions you have are very filesystem specific. I can help you with reiserfs, but not with ext3
[05:57] <lupine_85> specify fulll path as it's not in $PATH
[05:57] <joshua__> ok, i have a ext3 filesystem
[05:57] <brunogsimoes> i think i need to link it to sbin or bin folders
[05:58] <WolfmanK> For some reason Ubuntu 6.10 didn't pick up my USB and Firewire ports on install, how do I enable them now?
[05:58] <n2diy> brunogsimoes: so it didn't run from the console?
[05:58] <brunogsimoes> not found
[05:58] <brunogsimoes> just with whole path
[05:58] <n2diy> brunogsimoes: try using sudo first.
[05:58] <stefg> joshua__: so if message do you get when running 'fsck /dev/hdXX'
[05:59] <n2diy> ! links
[05:59] <ubotu> links: Character mode WWW browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99+1.00pre12-1 (edgy), package size 375 kB, installed size 936 kB
[05:59] <jrib> brunogsimoes: you need to put it (or a symlink to it) somewhere in your $PATH
[05:59] <stefg> s/if/what
[05:59] <lsv> ty
[05:59] <lsv> again
[05:59] <obstfliege> nabend!
[05:59] <brunogsimoes> how can i symlink to it ?
[05:59] <jrib> !symlink | brunogsimoes
[05:59] <ubotu> brunogsimoes: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[05:59] <jrib> useless ubotu
[06:00] <jrib> brunogsimoes: ln -s TARGET NAME_OF_LINK
[06:00] <n2diy> Can anybody help brunogsimoes create a symlink?
[06:00] <Rambo3> man ln
[06:00] <brunogsimoes> thx jrib
[06:00] <n2diy> ! symlink
[06:00] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:00] <jrib> brunogsimoes: I recommend placing it in /usr/local/bin
[06:00] <Lurner> hi guys . I'm trying to   find -name *.deb on the CD rom drive and the listing shoots by me so fast how can I get the find command to display only one page at a time ?
[06:00] <brunogsimoes> and n2diy
[06:01] <stefg> ln -s /dev/urandom /dev/brain
[06:01] <ademan> anyone with the new nvidia drivers (9746) have trouble using the virtual terminals?  When i do that, or shut down, my screen looks all trippy, there's a sort of rounded box in the center, and it's like there's light radiating out from behind it, and then it kinda pulsates, but it's as though the screen is divided into sections, and they sort of randomly swap around, if that makes any sense
[06:01] <freakabcd> snail, i have checked on the net andmostly i see people saying it will say 'not authenticated' when installing fom repositories without keys. but i have checked the keys in synaptic and the ubuntu keys are there!
[06:01] <un4get> !help security
[06:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help security - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:01] <n2diy> stefg: which one is the link, and which one is the source?
[06:02] <stefg> ademan: dapper or edgy?
[06:02] <jrib> Lurner: pipe to less, example:   cat /etc/apt/sources.list | less
[06:02] <ademan> edgy
[06:02] <ademan> everything else works fine
[06:02] <stefg> n2diy: read about the syntax in 'man ln' :-)
[06:02] <Lurner> could you use and example based on the find name ?
[06:02] <n2diy> stefg: :)
[06:03] <jrib> Lurner: | is the pipe between commands
[06:03] <ademan> i'm going to try playing a couple games, it might be when it tries to change resolution (it had problems with it with the last driver set, but this one seemed to fix it) but then i just tried enemy territory just now, and it pulled that crap
[06:03] <joshua__> stefg: I ran fsck -t ext3 /dev/hdb, i get the following: The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 filesystem
[06:03] <stefg> joshua__: Uh oh...
[06:03] <joshua__> stefg: Running fsck -t ext2 gave the same results... :p
[06:04] <stefg> !testdisk | joshua__
[06:04] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.4.1-1 (edgy), package size 459 kB, installed size 1232 kB
[06:04] <dhq_> is there any channel where i can look for a job please i need help i know this is not the channel to ask but i am desparate
[06:04] <selah> !fstab
[06:04] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[06:04] <mvo> freakabcd: try a "reload" in synaptic
[06:04] <||cw> will the generic kernel image work ona  486?
[06:04] <n2diy> dhq_: i just asked for a list of Ubuntu channels, and didn't get a reply.
[06:05] <freakabcd> mvo, done that many times
[06:05] <stefg> joshua__: either something seriuos happened to your filesystem, or your disk is about to die... get a backup, quick
[06:05] <n2diy> dhq_: try #ubuntu-offtopic?
[06:05] <freakabcd> even quit synaptic and went back in to do the reload many times. tried with sudo apt-get update as well
[06:05] <snail> freakabcd: ok, so the problem is that your system can't find the correct gpg keys, right?
[06:05] <lupine_85> no!
[06:05] <fbc> it a terminal program built into linux to send commands to a serial port??  LIke telix.
[06:05] <WolfmanK> For some reason Ubuntu 6.10 didn't pick up my USB and Firewire ports on install, how do I enable them now?
[06:05] <lupine_85>  run it against /dev/hdb1
[06:06] <mvo> freakabcd: do you get the message for all packages? or just for some? are you behind a proxy?
[06:06] <lupine_85> seriously guys. this is meant to be a support channel
[06:06] <freakabcd> snail, i'm not sure. because the beryl packages i installed from the ubuntu.beryl-project.org repo didnt say not authenticated
[06:06] <snail> freakabcd: try "apt-key update "
[06:06] <joshua__> stefg: i only installed ubuntu... :p
[06:06] <freakabcd> mvo, just the ones from archive.ubuntu.com
[06:06] <lupine_85> joshua__: did you get that?
[06:06] <snail> freakabcd: the  ubuntu.beryl-project.org packages may not be signed
[06:06] <freakabcd> snail, they are
[06:07] <freakabcd> ask lupine_85
[06:07] <stefg> joshua__: then you disk is probably at the edge of failing, or something went wrong with the install
[06:07] <lupine_85> nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[06:07] <jedrick> hello i just got my ubuntu connect to internet.. how can i upgrade to the latest version of ubuntu?
[06:07] <freakabcd> cos hes the one signing them :)
[06:07] <snail> freakabcd: ok: have you tried my command?
[06:07] <Rambo3> !upgrade >jedrick
[06:07] <freakabcd> snail, trying now
[06:07] <lupine_85> only a complete idiot would have /dev/hdb as a partition
[06:07] <joshua__> stefg: the installation went smoothly, the disk came out of an old pc, i'm going to get it out i guess.... :p
[06:07] <n2diy> jedrick: don't
[06:07] <lupine_85>  it's almost certainly /dev/hdb1 instead
[06:08] <jedrick> n2diy, why?
[06:08] <freakabcd> snail, thanks. that solved the problem.
[06:08] <fbc> I need to control a router. Is there a program I could use to open my serial port and take control???
[06:08] <n2diy> jedrick: Because you'll spend all your time in here trying to fix things, when you could be doing other stuff.
[06:08] <markeib> i have the impression my xine is broken
[06:08] <stefg> lupine_85, joshua__ : good catch... of course just /dev/hdb will fail. yu have to give the part number as well
[06:08] <markeib> how can i check that?
[06:08] <[xDCDx] > hello
[06:08] <mvo> freakabcd: I suspect a over-agressive proxy (maybe tansparent). you can test this theory by moving the files in /var/lib/apt/lists/ away and doing a apt-get udpate again
[06:08] <tim167> GUI problem: cant see bottom part of interface because screen soo small, cant resize gui, what to do ??? (applies to dvd::rip, but also Ardour...)
[06:08] <snail> freakabcd: can i ask a favour?
[06:08] <freakabcd> mvo, apt-key update fixed my problem
[06:08] <lupine_85> srsly d00d, j00 n00b :p
[06:08] <freakabcd> snail, yes
[06:09] <Rambo3> fbc what router is controller over serial port
[06:09] <lupine_85> Rambo3: lots
[06:09] <snail> freakabcd: find a wiki somewhere, anywhere and enter the full text of your problem and solution
[06:09] <xDCDx> is there a way to assign a keyboard shortcut to the 'lock screen' option of the 'quit' panel?
[06:09] <snail> freakabcd: then the next time someone has the problem, they can google the answer
[06:09] <joshua__> stefg: is there a way to enumerate the devices?
[06:09] <stefg> !shortcuts
[06:09] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[06:09] <selah> I need to edit my fstab to point from /dev/hda4, a primary partition as the swap partition to /dev/hda5, a logical partition on /dev/hda2 and extended partion. Can anybody tell me how?
[06:09] <tim167> GUI problem:  never mind, i found out I can do alt+click+drag to move the window higher so I can see the bottom part
[06:09] <snail> freakabcd: particularly important is the full text of the error message you got
[06:09] <fbc> Rambo3:  it's actually a pbx...
[06:09] <Lurner> OK.. new question.. I've done a text only install so that I can adjust my Xconf.. but now I need to install a window manager The web pages suggestions all failed so I'm trying to find one on the CD ROM
[06:10] <sybec> HELLO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO STOP TYPING ONLY BIG LETTERS CAN ANYONE HELP ME PLEASE I AM USING LATEST UBUNTU
[06:10] <joshua__> press caps lock?
[06:10] <joshua__> :p
[06:10] <Lurner> what is the windows manager on the alt CD and where is it ?
[06:10] <snail>  /filter sybec
[06:10] <fbc> Rambo3:  I just need to know if there is a terminal package I could use or download...
[06:10] <stefg> joshua__: there is no /way/ it's done already. so your partitons on /dev/hdb are /dev/hdb1 .... and so on
[06:10] <lupine_85> fbc: gtkterm
[06:10] <sybec> WHAT IS CAPS LOCK JOSHUA?
[06:10] <selah> My fstab says: # /dev/hda4
[06:10] <lupine_85> !gtkterm
[06:10] <selah> UUID=ae57500c-0b6f-4dc8-91c9-7a42e93b59f9 none            swap    sw              0       0
[06:10] <ubotu> gtkterm: A simple GTK+ serial port terminal. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.5-1build1 (edgy), package size 45 kB, installed size 228 kB
[06:10] <fbc> lupine_85:  thanks
[06:11] <lupine_85> np
[06:11] <n2diy> selah: it is next to your "a" key.
[06:11] <rubiaza_wapa> np
[06:11] <gnomefreak> sybec: please un lock the caps key. its the key on the left of keyboard between tab nasn shift
[06:11] <ubuntux> someone knows a nice howto on how to play games when you're using xgl/beryl?
[06:11] <sybec> does this work?
[06:11] <sybec> wahoo!
[06:11] <sybec> how did you know I have casp look on my keyboard?
[06:12] <selah> n2diy sorry I don't understand what you mean by "it is next to your "a" key."?
[06:12] <joshua__> stefg: somehow fsck returns 'clean' now...
[06:12] <joshua__> i guess it's fixed
[06:12] <sybec> o rly?
[06:12] <jedrick> how can i download like winamp on linux using apt-get? can someone teach me.. just new on this linux
[06:12] <freakabcd> sybec, (almost) every keyboard i have seen has one
[06:12] <lupine_85> ya rly
[06:12] <snail> selah: n2diy was getting you confused with sybec
[06:12] <sybec> NO WAI
[06:12] <lupine_85> we can see j00r keyboard
[06:12] <selah> ah
[06:12] <lupine_85> STOP FAPPING
[06:12] <||cw> jedrick: xmms replaces winamp
[06:12] <stefg> joshua__: ok, the reboot to your installed system and try if apt is still unhappy
[06:12] <Slart> jedrick: first you have to find a alternative to winamp, because winamp isn't available on linux
[06:12] <joshua__> will do!
[06:12] <snail> freakabcd: only the western ones, not the asian ones
[06:12] <Lurner> what is the windows manager on the alt CD and where is it ?
[06:13] <lupine_85> xmms ~= winamp
[06:13] <jedrick> ok how can i install xmms?
[06:13] <grogoreo> hi
[06:13] <Slart> jedrick: xmms is one alternative.. to install it type sudo apt-get install xmms
[06:13] <lupine_85> Lurner: there isn't one
[06:13] <shack> jedrick: get amarok
[06:13] <||cw> jedrick: should be installed by default
[06:13] <shack> apt-get install amarok
[06:13] <grogoreo> why isn't there the python-vim package/module. I can't seem to import it in python
[06:13] <n2diy> snail: I wonder how that happened? There are only 1007 users here.
[06:13] <joshua__> stefg: btw, he's running fsck automagically agian, no errors whatsoever... :D
[06:13] <Slart> jedrick: it's the same for all programs in ubuntu.. you type sudo apt-get install programname
[06:13] <sybec> grogoreo: which would do what?
[06:14] <Animal> Hi I wondered if anyone knows where I can download an S3 ProSavage8 driver, my Ubuntu install is offline so it needs to go on a USB disk
[06:14] <jedrick> how to enable my apt-get thingy? it won't work..  got this error instead "E: Invalid operation xmms
[06:14] <jedrick> "
[06:14] <joshua__> stefg: is reports: 0.9% non-contiguous
[06:14] <sybec> jedrick: apt-get install xmms
[06:14] <lupine_85> jedrick: you need an "install" in there
[06:14] <shack> jedrick and remember sudo
[06:14] <shack> sudo apt-get install amarok
[06:14] <stefg> joshua__: ok, you don't have to report all the routine messages
[06:14] <grogoreo> sybec: allow you to control vim from python. I've seen examples and there only seems to be vim-python
[06:14] <jedrick> same E: Package xmms has no installation candidate
[06:14] <rioghal> jedrick, sudo apt-get install xmms
[06:14] <sybec> why not just use the synaptic thing
[06:14] <Rambo3> !info xmms
[06:14] <ubotu> xmms: Versatile X audio player. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.10+cvs20060429-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1085 kB, installed size 7248 kB
[06:14] <sybec> !info synaptic
[06:14] <ubotu> synaptic: Graphical package manager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.57.11ubuntu12 (edgy), package size 1032 kB, installed size 5420 kB
[06:14] <Slart> !apt-get
[06:14] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[06:14] <shack> sybec: if he wants to do it linux way
[06:15] <shack> !info amarok
[06:15] <ubotu> amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.4.3-0ubuntu10 (edgy), package size 14370 kB, installed size 31288 kB
[06:15] <sybec> shack: you're kidding me, right?
[06:15] <sybec> shack: synaptic isn't the "linux way" and "apt-get" is? I'm afraid to ask what the "linux way" is.
[06:15] <shack> sybec: I'm -) you ;)
[06:15] <mvo> !info gnome-app-install
[06:15] <ubotu> gnome-app-install: GNOME Application Installer. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.21 (edgy), package size 174 kB, installed size 1012 kB
[06:15] <sybec> I have no idea what "-)" means
[06:15] <Animal> Does anyone know where to get ProSavage8 drivers?
[06:15] <shack> sybec: kidding
[06:15] <sybec> Ah.
[06:16] <lupine_85> Animal: should be xserver-xorg-video-savage
[06:16] <sybec> like I was kidding about the OMG I CANT TYPE SMALL LETTERS thing I guess
[06:16] <un4get> hi guy, can we update ubuntu 6.10 to nubuntu ?
[06:16] <compengi> what is the command in the termina to set up a pppoe connection
[06:16] <lupine_85> which you can download from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool
[06:16] <shack> sybec: something like that... maybe :)
[06:16] <sybec> un4get: I don't think "update" is the word you're looking for
[06:16] <Animal> Eh?
[06:16] <sybec> SRSLY?
[06:17] <Animal> lupine: I don't get it
[06:17] <rioghal> s/update/switch/
[06:17] <fxr> hi i have a soundblaster 128 pci, it seems to work 100% with edgy ubuntu out of the box, i was wondering if there is any value to updating my sound drivers manually?
[06:17] <joshua__> stefg: apt-get keeps on returning buffer_read errors, i checked syslog, reported I/O errors
[06:17] <Animal> XD
[06:17] <un4get> sybec : upgrade maybe ?
[06:17] <sybec> un4get: nope.
[06:17] <Slart> fxr: I doubt it.. is there drivers available?
[06:17] <rioghal> un4get, "switch" is what you're looking for
[06:17] <madcheez2> fxr: i would that if it works, and works the way you want it to, dont upgrade..
[06:17] <stefg> joshua__: i/o errors generally indicate hardware problems...
[06:17] <sybec> I can see why *buntu confuses the hell out of newbies
[06:18] <un4get> yeah.. how to switch it ?
[06:18] <jrib> !offtopic | sybec
[06:18] <ubotu> sybec: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:18] <nestarita> kkkk
[06:18] <sybec> un4get: grab the nubuntu cd, install the distribution?
[06:18] <phr34ck> hey everyone
[06:18] <joshua__> stefg: will try a different hard-disk then
[06:18] <Slart> hello phr34ck
[06:19] <phr34ck> Slart, how are you doing ?
[06:19] <jedrick> what's the command in the terminal if what ubuntu version am i running..
[06:19] <Slart> phr34ck: I'm all good.. have had my midday nap =).. you?
[06:19] <selah> Can anybody tell me what the heck this means in my fstab file: UUID=ae57500c-0b6f-4dc8-91c9-7a42e93b59f9 none            swap    sw              0       0
[06:19] <stefg> !version
[06:19] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[06:19] <shack> jedrick uname -r
[06:19] <selah> UUID=ae57500c-0b6f-4dc8-91c9-7a42e93b59f9 none            swap    sw              0       0
[06:19] <Animal> >.< I cannot find a single lpace to get that driver
[06:19] <shack> sorry stefg was right
[06:19] <Slart> jedrick: uname -a for kernel version.. lsb_release -a for other info
[06:19] <Animal> *place
[06:19] <phr34ck> Slart, I'm good .. just got back from university. Preparing for my Math exam on Saturday MORNING
[06:20] <Kirok> selah: its the UID / GUID for the drive
[06:20] <un4get> hmm that it
[06:20] <xDCDx> what software is recommended for backup of a whole HD over a network?
[06:20] <jedrick> ok thnx
[06:20] <phr34ck> Slart, I have some questions if you have time.
[06:25] <Slart> phr34ck: sure, shhot
[06:25] <joshua__> stefg: I have another disk in my pc, is there a way to migrate to that disk?
[06:25] <xDCDx> I found partimage, which is nice, but I want to hackup the whole HD and its partition, not partition by partition
[06:25] <fxr> madcheez2; ok ll leave it.. it just seems the sound isnt as *good* as it is under windows... (i may well be imaging it tho)
[06:25] <stefg> xDCDx: i'd use partimage, but see !backup for more options
[06:25] <Slart> xDCDx: there are plenty of backup software.. check in synaptic.. search for backup..
[06:25] <selah> Kirok OK. So what is that? lol
[06:25] <phr34ck> Okay, first of all. I gathered that there is a File manager, and a window manager. Gnome uses Nautilus for the former, metacity or something for the latter. Is there a way to change only one?
[06:25] <olimpico> HI, I have a question, why does ubuntu take so much time to mount NFS devices???
[06:25] <rioghal> xDCDx, how many partitions do you have?
[06:25] <selah> Can I edit my fstab file to point at a different partition for the swap partition?
[06:25] <olimpico> Isn't theer a fast mode or something?
[06:25] <phr34ck> if yes, why is that? how Gnome is layered? And where can I find the config files for what I'm using now ?
[06:25] <xDCDx> rioghal: 4
[06:25] <compengi> what is the command in the termina to set up a pppoe connection
[06:25] <Animal> I finks I found my driver
[06:25] <Animal> http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/x11/xserver-xorg-video-savage?
[06:25] <madcheez2> !pppoe
[06:25] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[06:25] <rioghal> xDCDx, my 6Gb / partition took about 10 minutes to backup with partimage
[06:25] <Slart> phr34ck: yes.. you should be able to just switch file manager or window manager.. although ubuntu is kind of adapted to work they way it's delivered..
[06:25] <rioghal> xDCDx, IF you're worried about the time it takes..
[06:25] <Slart> phr34ck: if you want to play with these things I'd recommend trying another distro... debian perhaps.. and then add the graphics stuff yourself adn see what works
[06:25] <phr34ck> Slart, do you know why when I write ' and press enter int terminal it gives me something like I'm suppose to input something ?
[06:25] <xDCDx> rioghal, not time, I want to backup the partitions because I am repartitioning the system with different sizes for the partition, and if I need to restore it afterward, I don't want to worry about remaking the partitions whith the sizes they have now
[06:25] <xDCDx> !backup
[06:25] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[06:25] <phr34ck> Slart, I can't mess arround with Ubuntu ?
[06:25] <Slart> phr34ck: bash has some special keys.. some continue the command line on the next line.. some do others.. ' is one of the special ones
[06:25] <Kirok> selah: using it his has the advantage that adding/removing disks won't effect what gets mounted. The format to use instead of the device name in the fstab file is - nothing to worry about
[06:25] <stefg> xDCDx: forget partimage then, it can't resize on restore
[06:25] <xDCDx> thanks to stefg and Slart
[06:25] <Slart> phr34ck: yes you can.. but if you really want to learn I'd recommend using a more "build it yourself" distro... ubuntu is more a package deal
[06:25] <xDCDx> stefg: i know :)
[06:25] <Slart> phr34ck: in my opinion
[06:25] <rioghal> xDCDx, partimage only copies the parts of the partition that are used. if you back up a 6Gb partition when only 2Gb of it is being used, then you can restore it to a 2Gb+ partition
[06:25] <phr34ck> Slart, I see. Okay.
[06:25] <sybec> phr34ck: yeah! like Debian unstable
[06:25] <k010> has anyone ever had this problem, vmplayer hangs for minutes when surfing then net with IE
[06:25] <phr34ck> sybec, what ?
[06:25] <rioghal> phr34ck, I don't know how to change the file manager, but I have a link about switching window managers. You want the link?
[06:25] <stefg> xDCDx: so any blocklevel backup is useless for that... simply tar and zip the stuff up?
[06:25] <phr34ck> rioghal, yeah that would help
[06:25] <xDCDx> rioghal, it's more a matter of backing up the whole hard disk as it is now, time and space are no limits
[06:25] <phr34ck> I want to know everything ! I thurst for knowledge.
[06:25] <sybec> phr34ck: read what Slart said, I was "adding to the reply"
[06:25] <kanpachi> hello, i'm using dapper, and when i press shift+numlock, numlock just lights up and i can't move the cursor with the numeric keypad. how can i fix it?
[06:25] <matthew> .
[06:25] <kanpachi> please
[06:25] <fbc> anyone know anything about nortel pbx's?
[06:26] <matthe1> i need to get my damn nvidia drivers working:P
[06:26] <sybec> fbc: yes
[06:26] <pike_> fbc: ?
[06:26] <rioghal> phr34ck, This info pertains to the Openbox wm but can be augmented easily for any window manager: http://www.gnomehelp.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Gnome212.WindowManager
[06:26] <Slart> phr34ck: if you have lots of time you could try installing the complete system from the ground up.. but it's more a learning experience than a way to get a usable desktop machine
[06:26] <snail> kanpachi: what kind of keyboard do you have and what kinds did you specify when you installed?
[06:26] <kanpachi> i have just a simple keyboard
[06:26] <kanpachi> i have generic intl 105 keys set up
[06:26] <snail> kanpachi: have you tried googling for the model of your keyboard and "ubuntu dapper"
[06:27] <rioghal> phr34ck, If you "thurst" for knowlege, then I should tell you it's "thirst", lol
[06:27] <matthe1> pike_; i cantn get my bearl and no opengl exe games working any more:(
[06:27] <matthe1> i need mt glx
[06:27] <kanpachi> nope, that's an idea
[06:27] <matthe1> my*
[06:27] <kanpachi> thanx
[06:27] <kanpachi> but i'm not sure i remember which model it is
[06:27] <xDCDx> I thinked of using dd, but I don't have a local second harddisk to receive the backup, I need to send it via the network, any ideas?
[06:28] <HymnToLife> xDCDx, NFS ?
[06:28] <lupine_85> xDCDx: dd and netcat
[06:28] <effie_jayx> hey all ... does this sound crazy to you... I have 60 gigs .. I have two partitions one for swap and one for my root...
[06:28] <pike_> matthe1: ? did we work on something earlier?
[06:28] <effie_jayx> I would like to partition
[06:28] <matthe1> pike_;yes
[06:28] <effie_jayx> to make room for feisty
[06:28] <Slart> effie_jayx: nope.. sounds reasonable... try gparted
[06:28] <pike_> matthe1: had i been drinkin?
[06:28] <xDCDx> HymnToLife, good idea, I should have thought of that
[06:28] <sybec> effie_jayx: partitioning is fun for the whole family
[06:28] <matthe1> pike_; it failed
[06:28] <xDCDx> lupine_85, will check netcat
[06:28] <gandalfcome> need help with dual screen setup on ati. i get a mouse position offset.  help appreciated
[06:28] <lupine_85> it's great stuff :)
[06:28] <matthe1> pike_; i dunno
[06:29] <pike_> matthe1: what was original problem?
[06:29] <effie_jayx> sybec,  last time I used (or misued ) it I really messed up the system
[06:29] <Slart> effie_jayx: oh.. and I hope you have something like 1 GB swap and 59 GB for the rest, right?
[06:29] <lupine_85> just be sure to verify the write went OK with an md5sum or something
[06:29] <k010> anyone have problem with vmplayer in edgy?
[06:29] <effie_jayx> Slart,  I have only 512
[06:29] <lupine_85> other options include scp, perhaps
[06:29] <nixnewb> how do i check my processor type, speed, and ram?
[06:29] <lupine_85> if you can convince it to dereference the device file
[06:29] <N1kki> Hi, just a quick one, is it possible to setup a dual boot with XP with a alternate installation disk, have to install in text mode cos systems are low in RAM
[06:29] <lupine_85> nixnewb: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[06:29] <h3xis> nixnewb, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[06:29] <pike_> matthe1: going to lunch you can pm me if you want ill respond in about 30-60min
[06:29] <lupine_85> and cat /proc/meminfo
[06:29] <matthe1> pike_; but i upgraded my distro the edgy it has a upgrade and now the xorg.conf had be changed by me the driver "nvidia" to driver "nv"
[06:30] <Slart> effie_jayx: hehe.. ok.. for a moment there I figured you might have done something windowish like put 20 GB swap =)
[06:30] <n2diy> nixnewb: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[06:30] <effie_jayx> I need that much swap???
[06:30] <sybec> effie_jayx: then don't misuse it
[06:30] <Slart> N1kki: I'd be surprised if that didn't work
[06:30] <pr3d4t0r> Greetings.
[06:30] <Slart> effie_jayx: no.. your setup is fine
[06:30] <effie_jayx> sybec,  cool... I'll just make the free space and run the feisty cd
[06:30] <effie_jayx> and see
[06:30] <matthe1> pike_;now my direct rendering is no
[06:30] <effie_jayx> Slart,  I'll give it a shot...
[06:31] <matthe1> CAN any one help me???????
[06:31] <Slart> effie_jayx: have you tried just running the install CD? perhaps it will help you repartition.
[06:31] <knight> how can i download all the links in a webpage in firefox?
[06:31] <N1kki> !dual
[06:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <Slart> matthe1: help you with what?
[06:31] <CharminTheMoose> knight: wget
[06:31] <Slart> knight: get some kind of extension that helps that..
[06:31] <Travela> What should I use for a SFTP server?
[06:31] <rioghal> I have oboard graphics (AMD Sempron 2800+), no other videa card, but glxinfo | grep render says yes. Any idea why it says yes?
[06:31] <matthe1> i upgrade my distro edgy but still edgy and my video drivers are fucked
[06:31] <HymnToLife> knight, get the FlashGot extension
[06:31] <Slart> knight there are plenty.. there's even an extension using wget
[06:31] <HymnToLife> FlashGot*
[06:31] <effie_jayx> Slart,  live cd's are no friend of my laptop
[06:32] <k010> nixnewb, theres an app u can install it quite nice called sysinfo
[06:32] <effie_jayx> Slart,  they run painfully slow
[06:32] <knight> CharminTheMoose: how to use wget will kget do?
[06:32] <Slart> effie_jayx: I don't mean the live CD, but perhaps the alternate install does that too.. just a guess
[06:32] <CharminTheMoose> knight: a bit o' command line is ok
[06:32] <Slart> knight: kget sounds like sometihng that would work
[06:32] <k010> nixnewb, its presents most of ur hardware in gui form
[06:32] <nixnewb> how would i check amount of ram?
[06:32] <effie_jayx> Slart, it'll give both a crack and see
[06:32] <selah> So can I replace: # /dev/hda4
[06:32] <selah> UUID=ae57500c-0b6f-4dc8-91c9-7a42e93b59f9 none            swap    sw              0       0
[06:32] <selah> with:
[06:34] <effie_jayx> thanks guys
[06:34] <CharminTheMoose> oh wait, this is ubuntu
[06:34] <selah> /dev/hda5  	swap  	swap  	pri=42  	0 0
[06:34] <matthe1> ok now its upgrading again:s
[06:34] <selah> ?
[06:34] <Travela> Anyone know of a good SFTP server that's fairly easy to configure?  I'm looking for security though..
[06:34] <CharminTheMoose> :p
[06:34] <Slart> effie_jayx: your welcome
[06:34] <N1kki> hmm, guess no one knows, I'll just use partition magic in windows and try it that that
[06:34] <WolfmanK> For some reason Ubuntu 6.10 didn't pick up my USB and Firewire ports on install, how do I enable them now?
[06:34] <lupine_85> !ssh
[06:34] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[06:34] <crot> Why would you want Simple File Transfer Protocol server to be secure?
[06:34] <nixnewb> it doens't have an internet connection
[06:34] <HymnToLife> Travela, SFTP is just FTP over SSH
[06:34] <lupine_85> bah
[06:34] <Slart> Travela: secure, easy to install, easy to use.. pick 2 out of 3 ;)
[06:34] <HymnToLife> !openssh-server
[06:34] <ubotu> openssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 212 kB, installed size 552 kB
[06:34] <lupine_85> thart's the one :)
[06:34] <joshua__> how can I: sudo touch * ?
[06:34] <joshua__> it says: too many arguments..?
[06:34] <crot> joshua__: sudo sh -c "for i in *; do touch "$i"; done"
[06:34] <ubuntux> how do you guys play opengl games with xgl and beryl etc?
[06:34] <matthe1> easy
[06:34] <MrLinux> I have a question for you experts :)
[06:34] <nixnewb> how would i check te amount of ram?
[06:34] <crot> joshua__: but fix the "$i" in the middle
[06:34] <HymnToLife> nixnewb, free
[06:34] <Slart> nixnewb: isn
[06:34] <MrLinux> Where I can find plugins for Ubuntu player ?
[06:34] <ubuntux> nixnewb, free -m
[06:34] <Slart> nixnewb: isn't there a mem command?
[06:35] <Slart> nixnewb: or free.. like ubuntux said
[06:35] <HymnToLife> MrLinux, which player ?
[06:35] <MrLinux> Totem
[06:35] <nixnewb> thank you
[06:35] <emun> Hi, is there anywhere in ubuntu where I can configure the bootloader
[06:35] <nixnewb> that worked
[06:35] <MrLinux> to play .avi , .mpeg
[06:35] <Slart> isn't totem just a front end for gstreamer?
[06:36] <MrLinux> and .mp3
[06:36] <HymnToLife> Slart, it can work with Xine, too
[06:36] <h3xis> emun, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:36] <Travela> I'm sorry I was thinking of SFTP over SSH2 ...
[06:36] <HymnToLife> !codecs | MrLinux
[06:36] <Slart> ah.. yes
[06:36] <HymnToLife> !codecs | MrLinux
[06:36] <matthe1> http://amaranth.selfip.com/dists/edgy/lrm/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[06:36] <ubotu> MrLinux: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:36] <un4get> how to prevent Totem auto play?
[06:36] <selah> I mean /dev/hda5  	swap  	swap  	auto  	0 0?
[06:36] <Dimensions> Hi .... I have installed Ubuntu on Mac how do i bring ubuntu in Boot loader ????????????????????????????????
[06:36] <Travela> So is there a guide or something to setup sftp over ssh2 on ubuntu-server?
[06:36] <emun> h3xis, thanks i will try that
[06:37] <HymnToLife> Dimensions, one interrogation point would've been enough...
[06:37] <HymnToLife> Travela, nothing to do
[06:37] <Travela> What's that?
[06:37] <HymnToLife> if SSH works, SFTP will, too
[06:37] <Travela> Nope sorry
[06:37] <matthe1> W: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263      wats the key ?
[06:37] <Travela> SSH is working but SFTP is not
[06:37] <Dimensions> lol HymnToLife try it for five hours and then ask again here ... u would put thousand ...
[06:38] <WolfmanK> For some reason Ubuntu 6.10 didn't pick up my USB and Firewire ports on install, how do I enable them now?
[06:38] <MrLinux> ubotu: Restricted Format "mp3, aac, wma - wmv, avi, divx - doc, xls, ppt"
[06:38] <MrLinux> why ?
[06:38] <N1kki> oh never mind the text based installation still includes a partioning tool which can resize, so should be ok
[06:38] <N1kki> thanks ppl, C ya
[06:38] <Slart> matthe1: if it's wine then you might have better luck in asking the wine people.. in #winehq
[06:38] <ubuntux> doesnt anyone play games , use fglrx and xgl/beryl?
[06:38] <matthe1> k
[06:38] <Slart> matthe1: although you might get an answer here too
[06:38] <MrLinux> Restricted Format "mp3, aac, wma - wmv, avi, divx - doc, xls, ppt"
[06:38] <MrLinux> why ?
[06:38] <crot> I play games, ubuntux
[06:38] <Dimensions> aneways any one knows how to put lilo or grub in dual boot Ubuntu Macx ?
[06:38] <Travela> Anyone know why?
[06:38] <crot> It goes like this
[06:38] <crot> metacity --replace
[06:38] <joshua__> crot: what's the correct syntax, i can't get it to work...
[06:39] <crot> wine supergame.exe
[06:39] <crot> beryl --replace
[06:39] <ubuntux> ah okay, i can create a script for that
[06:39] <madcheez2> Dimensions: hey did you get ubuntu to start installation?
[06:39] <finalbeta> How do I force an application quit? I can't stop java , even from the task manager.
[06:39] <crot> joshua__: sudo sh -c "for i in *; do touch '$i'; done"
[06:39] <Dimensions> madcheez2:  yeah ...
[06:40] <madcheez2> Dimensions: then it should ask you to install grub...
[06:40] <madcheez2> Dimensions: as a boot loader
[06:40] <mollpld1-> Patricia -rebelde
[06:40] <tim167> how can I make a script for this: save part of an mp3 file to a new file from given start and end points ?
[06:40] <ubuntux> crot, but, beryl isnt the problem right on the opengl performance, thats xgl?
[06:40] <selah> Or should it be: /dev/hda5  	swap  	swap  	defaults  	0 0?
[06:40] <Dimensions> madcheez2:  im doing it with Mac ... and if you have tried it with that ... at the end it gives error ... boot loader ...
[06:40] <rkgl> hi, I am having problems in sound ? Can anyone please help ?
[06:40] <mollpld1-> Patricia redelde
[06:40] <madcheez2> Dimensions: what is the error 22?
[06:40] <MrLinux> crot :Where I can find aplications for Ubuntu PPC Platform ?  ( I have an iBook dual USB G3 )
[06:41] <matthe1> just put /dev/hda5     swap   swap     0 0
[06:41] <joshua__> i tried to burn a disk on ubuntu breezy, i'm not able to boot the disk, what to do?
[06:41] <Dimensions> madcheez2:  no idea .. didn't check number but normally ubuntu can't install Grub on mac .. u have to install lilo or something for int ... and its setting is also a bit complicated ...
[06:41] <joshua__> it's an ubuntu-6.10-desktop image
[06:42] <crot> MrLinux: from apt?
[06:42] <matthe1> no one in #winehq is aswnering
[06:42] <markeib> aaaaaaaaah
[06:42] <MrLinux> crot : what ?>
[06:42] <MrLinux> crot : what ?
[06:42] <Travela> I'm trying to SFTP over SSH2 from Filezilla .. I can connect to two other SFTP over SSH2 servers but not my ubuntu-server.  I have OpenSSH installed and I can SSH to it fine.  When I attempt to SFTP to my ubuntu box .. It just times out.  Anyone have any ideas?
[06:42] <Jaak_> I changed monitors (from crt to crt) now resolution is set to 640x480, in the resolution settings the only option is 640x480. I checked my xorg.conf, it has other resolution setting there... What do i do?
[06:42] <madcheez2> Dimensions: i didnt know you couldnt install grub on a mac... i will just sit over here and shut up.. 8)
[06:42] <crot> what applications do you want?
[06:42] <MrLinux> crot : from what ?
[06:42] <markeib> why has there always to be something that doesn't work with linux?
[06:42] <WolfmanK> For some reason Ubuntu 6.10 didn't pick up my USB and Firewire ports on install, how do I enable them now?
[06:42] <Dimensions> :) madcheez2 ...
[06:43] <||cw> if it didn't pick them up, maybe they are disbale din bios
[06:43] <finalbeta> How do I kill a zombie process? I can't close java, even from task manager.
[06:43] <n2diy> Travela: Do you have a firewall running?
[06:43] <MrLinux> crot : I don't know ... maybe all I think ... just to work
[06:43] <knight> hi
[06:43] <MrLinux> crot: Help me to find them please
[06:43] <n2diy> finalbeta: with Top?
[06:43] <joshua__> finalbeta: use kill
[06:43] <selah> Anybody? Beuhler?
[06:43] <Milos_SD> hello everyone... I have a little problem with burning DVD's with K3B and my new Pioneer 111D ... Burning is slow (6-7x)... why is that? DMA is on (UDMA 4)
[06:43] <Milos_SD> ?
[06:43] <knight> can i download the whole webpage to my system?
[06:44] <finalbeta> joshua__, kill -9 <processID> doesn't do anything
[06:44] <Travela> n2diy firewall on what?
[06:44] <Travela> it's acrost the local network
[06:44] <crot> MrLinux: you're in ubuntu right now?
[06:44] <facugaich> !wget | knight
[06:44] <ubotu> wget: retrieves files from the web. In component main, is standard. Version 1.10.2-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 226 kB, installed size 1952 kB
[06:44] <madcheez2> selah: whats up?
[06:44] <n2diy> Travela: your server.
[06:44] <MrLinux> crot : Is my wife right now on it :D sorry
[06:44] <knight> facugaich: but will it download the whole website implemented?
[06:44] <Travela> No I don't
[06:45] <MrLinux> crot : but you can give me the link's pages
[06:45] <madcheez2> selah: what is the problem?
[06:45] <knight> facugaich: ive tried it but it didnt diownlaoded the whole
[06:45] <crot> MrLinux: the idea is that you use synaptic package manager to get programs
[06:45] <finalbeta> useless, i'll reboot
[06:45] <selah> madcheez2 I'm trying to figure out how to edit my fstab to point at a different swap file partition. I'm multibooting 2 distros and wound up with 2 swap partitions.
[06:45] <joshua__> finalbeta, i don't really know... :s
[06:45] <n2diy> Travela: ok, there goes that idea.
[06:45] <chrisbi> kalispera
[06:45] <crot> MrLinux: System -> Administration -> Synaptic package manager
[06:45] <madcheez2> !fstab
[06:45] <facugaich> knight: did you read the man page? you can use some options to do that
[06:45] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[06:45] <crot> then you can look through or search
[06:45] <selah> I want to delete the primary swap partition and use the extended logical one.
[06:46] <rkgl>  hi, I am having problems in sound ? It seems the device is recognized but still unable to hear sound
[06:46] <kayshi> #ubuntu
[06:46] <IntuitiveNipple> selah: check out swapon and swapoff
[06:46] <n2diy> selah: you have to have a swap partition.
[06:46] <kayshi> join #ubuntu
[06:46] <madcheez2> selah: check that link
[06:46] <madcheez2> !fstab
[06:46] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[06:46] <joshua__> what's wrong with the ubuntu-6.06-desktop-cd? when trying to boot i get an display error?
[06:46] <selah> madhceez2 I did that. My fstab says:
[06:46] <selah> # /dev/hda4
[06:46] <Dasnipa`> joshua__, likely it isnt anything wrong with the cd
[06:46] <selah> UUID=ae57500c-0b6f-4dc8-91c9-7a42e93b59f9 none            swap    sw              0       0
[06:46] <foRza> How do I change the way USB drives gets mounted (parameters etc..)?
[06:47] <Travela> Hmm
[06:47] <madcheez2> selah: edit your fstab then to point to it...
[06:47] <joshua__> i have a tft-display, which says: change the display to 1280x1024 blabla
[06:47] <markeib> there are many applications that do not work anymore here (amaroK, kaffeine, totem, beryl) has anybody an idea what might be the problem?
[06:47] <maddash> foza: clarify your problem.
[06:47] <MrLinux> crot : I will like some games.. a movie player with codecs to play varios formats... and some stuff like : IRC , Messenger , SSH Client and that stuff
[06:47] <Milos_SD> hello everyone... I have a little problem with burning DVD's with K3B and my new Pioneer 111D ... Burning is slow (6-7x)... How can I fix this?
[06:47] <crot> MrLinux: you should be able to find those there.
[06:47] <IntuitiveNipple> selah: if you've got another partition ready for swap - use swapoff then swapon to set the new location
[06:47] <madcheez2> Milos_SD: did you enable dma?
[06:47] <selah> madcheez2 will this work in my fstab: /dev/hda5  	swap  	swap  	defaults  	0 0
[06:48] <madcheez2> selah: i believe so
[06:48] <Milos_SD> madcheez2, Yes
[06:48] <Milos_SD> it is enabled by default
[06:48] <MrLinux> crot : but it sayd like an error becouse Me platform is not compatible or something
[06:48] <knight> facugaich: u r too good to b a man thank u :)
[06:48] <mikelo> i've just installed a tv card but my sound card is not working anymore!!
[06:48] <selah> IntuitvieNipple ok. Do I still need to edit fstab to point to /dev/hda5?
[06:49] <Jaak_> I've shared multiple Rhythmbox players, but nothing happens, how do i acces shared music?
[06:49] <roler> is it unsafe or extremely unstable to update /etc/apt/sources.list to feisty and upgrade the system?
[06:49] <madcheez2> Milos_SD: im not sure then, i would think that dma mode should speed it up...
[06:49] <foRza> maddash: When I insert an USB-pen, it's mounted with "async". I need "sync" so changes are written imediately
[06:49] <selah> Madcheez2 OK thanks I'll give that a shot.
[06:49] <IntuitiveNipple> selah:  Yes, amend fstab
[06:49] <facugaich> knight: you're welcome ;)
[06:50] <selah> IntuitiveNipple OK thanks.
[06:50] <gandalfcome> need help with dual screen setup on ati. i get a mouse position offset when changing monitors.  help appreciated
[06:50] <Milos_SD> it burn DVD on 4x (max in K3B :S ) for 10 min.
[06:50] <madcheez2> selah: worst that would happen is that it would give you an error, then you just have to edit your fstab again back to original
[06:50] <joshua__> is there a way to check the integrity of a newly burnt cd?
[06:50] <MrLinux> crod : is no web-site or a torrent to download ubuntu aplications at all ?
[06:51] <jessid> hello.... I am wondering if some of you has any idea of how to install any template to create documents...thanks
[06:51] <maddash> forza: /etc/fstab?
[06:51] <jessid> !template
[06:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about template - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:51] <IntuitiveNipple> "sudo swapon -a" will mount all swaps listed in fstab, I believe
[06:51] <jessid> !templates
[06:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about templates - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:51] <selah> madcheez2 Yep. Backup the file first iz yer friend! lol
[06:51] <madcheez2> selah: ok just making sure...
[06:52] <WolfmanK> For some reason Ubuntu 6.10 didn't pick up my USB and Firewire ports on install, how do I enable them now?
[06:52] <IceTux> ANyone here knows of any way to stream radio from a linux computer? Any program ya know about?
[06:52] <MrLinux> crot : is no web-site or a torrent to download ubuntu aplications at all ?
[06:52] <selah> OK thanks guys. I'll go try stuff now. Happy hunting.
[06:52] <madcheez2> realplayer will stream radio..
[06:56] <IceTux> madcheez2: I'm thinking about being the dj..
[06:56] <madcheez2> IceTux: ah, i dont know about that one...
[06:56] <hakrzcode> Jessid: In the folder ~/Templates, place your template files, and it will basically open those files, when choosing New, from the right click in Nautilus.
[06:56] <IntuitiveNipple> IceTux: You mean using the Linux PC as the broadcasting server, or as the 'studio' ?
[06:56] <IceTux> Like, I'm searching for a program that makes it possible for me to be a dj on our local shoutcast server without having to change to windows :-)
[06:56] <madcheez2> ok, so i know wmv is a restricted format, but is there a way to play the files? will mplayer play them?
[06:56] <IceTux> as the studio IntuitiveNipple :-)
[06:56] <stefg> !vlc | IceTux
[06:56] <ubotu> IceTux: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[06:56] <stefg> useless ubotu!
[06:56] <hakrzcode> icetux, try icecast?
[06:56] <stefg> IceTux: vlc will do it
[06:56] <jessid> hakrzcode does not work...is it because the language is spanish?
[06:56] <IntuitiveNipple> IceTux:  http://www.shoutcast.com/download/broadcast.phtml#posixdownload
[06:56] <IceTux> stef: using mic would work too you think? it seems too simple to make a good show really...
[06:56] <madcheez2> ok, OT, fat free hot dogs for lunch and pay more attention here, or go play bf2142 and leave the room?
[06:56] <IceTux> hakrzcode: I'm on it ;)
[06:56] <IceTux> damn...
[06:56] <jessid> hakrzcode now it works...sorry
[06:56] <IceTox> there ya go =)
[06:56] <hakrzcode> icetux, do an "apt-cache search icecast", from the command line. There are many frontends. Take your choice. I am not sure about intuitive. I am not a caster.
[06:56] <IceTox> IntuitiveNipple: I can use that together with vlc you think IntuitiveNipple ?
[06:57] <IntuitiveNipple> IceTox: You'd have to check it out, I've not used it
[06:57] <hakrzcode> jessid, no problem. I have set this up for assorted word document templates.
[06:57] <QRZ`> Hi
[06:57] <cokeslut> yo
[06:57] <IceTox> fair enough IntuitiveNipple :-)
[06:57] <Vagant> Greetings!
[06:57] <Vagant> I would like to know if somebody installed VMWare server on Ubuntu server without KDE or GNOME desktop.
[06:57] <Vagant> Everything is running but I can not get to the VMWare web console :8222, :8333 ...
[06:57] <jessid> hakrzcode thanks a lot!
[06:57] <Vagant> Where can I check that?
[06:57] <cokeslut> that's a secret
[06:58] <Slart> hmm, looking at a pdf using evince killed my gnome menu's and the taskbar.. how can I revive it? I've already killed the evince process
[06:58] <IntuitiveNipple> IceTox: check out the djplay package, too
[06:58] <hakrzcode> Vagrant. vmware will install services in /etc/init.d/. Make sure that they are activated.
[06:58] <Skyrail> I'm having a few problems: I can't mount either my CD-RW or DVD drive and I keep on getting an error about Gnome settings and its reverts back to teh default window theme etc...any idea?
[06:58] <matthe1> ok i need my direct rendering: No to be direct rendering: Yes and wen i upgraded the distro edgy upgrade it seft and my invidia-glx is screwed:( please help
[06:59] <IntuitiveNipple> IceTox: Also, LiveIce
[06:59] <knoppix> my system crashed, how can i repair my hard disk with knoppix?? fsck??? what options?
[06:59] <Vagant> hakrzcode it works...
[06:59] <Vagant> But it does not run "web server".
[07:00] <mpoz2> Since GNOME 2.16 the file selection dialog's initial focus is on the location bar. Can I get the old behavior back and have it focus the file list instead? Or can I enable auto completion for the location bar?
[07:00] <matthe1> ok i need my direct rendering: No to be direct rendering: Yes and wen i upgraded the distro edgy upgrade it seft and my invidia-glx is screwed:( please help
[07:00] <macky> j #slip
[07:00] <hakrzcode> matthel: Edgy, has not introduced composite activated by default. You have to go to the xorg.conf, and deactivate it under extensions.
[07:01] <matthe1> were?
[07:01] <new2ubuntu> please help:  wiping my g4 hd to install ubuntu 4.1, what format should I choose during the erease?
[07:01] <borg> is there a skype client for linux?
[07:01] <borg> and is it in ubuntu reps?
[07:01] <matthe1> yea
[07:02] <borg> i'm not on my ubuntu machine so i dont know
[07:02] <rioghal> new2ubuntu, Ubuntu 4.1?
[07:02] <matthe1> borg; yes
[07:02] <hakrzcode> hmm, Vagrant. I am not sure. I have not run the webinterface for vmware-server. Try different keywords, in google? Or just rewrite your original question, straight into google, and see if any quality hits, come up.
[07:02] <borg> ah, cool, ok
[07:02] <n2diy> knoppix: load knoppix, open a terminal, become root, and type knx2hd, and you'll get a fresh install.
[07:02] <new2ubuntu> yes
[07:02] <rioghal> new2ubuntu, You mean Ubuntu 6.1?
[07:02] <matthe1> borg; skype.com
[07:02] <Skyrail> Anyone any idea?
[07:02] <hakrzcode> matthel: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:02] <new2ubuntu> rioghal: no, 4.1.  I have a disk
[07:02] <matthe1> ihakzcode i'm there
[07:03] <rioghal> new2ubuntu, be advised that 4.1 is very old. Can you download the latest ISO?
[07:03] <hakrzcode> I am not going to paste my conf here, but I will find you a link that will demonstrate my point.
[07:03] <un4get> !help firewall
[07:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help firewall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:03] <matthe1> borg; click downloads and click linux and read the sections and there one for ubuntu
[07:03] <rsk> okey, i have installed every alsa package and i still dont have alsaconf.
[07:03] <n2diy> ! pastebin | hakrzcode:
[07:03] <ubotu> hakrzcode:: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:03] <rsk> what could the reason be?
[07:04] <rioghal> new2ubuntu,  http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download?action=show&redirect=download
[07:04] <matthe1> hakrzcode were is it?
[07:04] <rsk> root@ruskie-desktop:~# alsaconf
[07:04] <rsk> bash: alsaconf: command not found
[07:04] <rsk> :/
[07:04] <new2ubuntu> rioghal:  can't connect with the mac to download, in fact, i'm hoping that something will work so that I can install a pci ethernetcard and get off dial up!
[07:05] <n2diy> rsk:  sudo alsaconf?
[07:05] <hakrzcode> here, better yet, add this towards the bottom of the xorg.conf. Section "Extensions"
[07:05] <hakrzcode>         Option  "Composite" "Disable"
[07:05] <hakrzcode> EndSection
[07:05] <rioghal> new2ubuntu, The installer should partition the drive and format the partitions for you
[07:05] <rsk> n2diy: same thing
[07:05] <Skyrail> !help mount
[07:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help mount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:05] <n2diy> rsk:  locate alsaconf?
[07:05] <borg> thanks, matthe1
[07:05] <hakrzcode> thanks n2diy
[07:05] <new2ubuntu> rioghal:  cool, i'll go ahead with the wipe/install and see what happens!
[07:06] <new2ubuntu> rioghal: thanks!
[07:06] <n2diy> hakrzcode: nada
[07:06] <matthe1> borg; np:)
[07:06] <rioghal> new2ubuntu, You shouldn't have to wipe first, just pop in the Ubuntu install disk and go to work 
[07:06] <rsk> n2diy: dont have it on my system
[07:06] <rsk> and i cant find it in http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=alsaconf&searchmode=searchword&case=insensitive&version=edgy&arch=i386
[07:06] <rsk> was it removed?
[07:06] <new2ubuntu> rioghal:  k, even easier! thanks!
[07:07] <hakrzcode> matthel, the default drivers for nvidia, and ati, disable direct rendering when composite is enabled. Since it is enabled by default, then you must disable this option.
[07:07] <n2diy> rsk:  what did you use to install it?
[07:07] <rsk> n2diy: install what?
[07:07] <ciga> hi
[07:07] <rioghal> new2ubuntu, Also, Ubuntu has a shipit program where they will ship the latest ISO cd's to you for free: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[07:07] <n2diy> rsk:  alsa
[07:07] <madcheez2> ciga: hi
[07:07] <rsk> via synaptic
[07:07] <ciga> how do I have libnspr4-dev firefox packages installed at the same time on edgy?
[07:07] <rsk> with ubuntu repo
[07:07] <rsk> i have no 3rd party repo
[07:08] <rsk> maybe its depracated?
[07:08] <madcheez2> ciga: im not sure i understand the question
[07:08] <rat_poison> hi, I'm an ubuntu/linux newbie, I've just installed. I use the Ubuntu 6.10. I need to mount my windows partitions. I followed the instructions, but when I search @ /media/windows but it is empty
[07:09] <ciga> madcheez2: I cannot install those packages on edgy.
[07:09] <madcheez2> rat_poison: sounds like you have not actually mounted the physical drive... you have made a fake drive with fstab...
[07:09] <rat_poison> sudo mount -a doesn't count?
[07:09] <n2diy> rsk:  include my nick, so I know you are talking to me, and ring my bell. :) So you highlighted the packages with synaptic?
[07:10] <rsk> n2diy: yeah and installed them
[07:10] <madcheez2> ciga, im not sure i understand you need those packages but you cant install them on edgy
[07:10] <ciga> and this is the error msg: "libnspr4-dev: Conflicts: libnspr4 but 2:1.firefox2.0.0.1+0dfsg-0ubuntu0.6.10 is to be installed"
[07:10] <Kradorex[O9] > Okay, I require assistance, my Atheros wireless card functioned perfectly, I mean perfectly, everything knew what it was and how to use it until I rebooted my laptop a day ago, now the drivers got trashed by something, and lshw reports it as "UNCLAIMED"
[07:10] <n2diy> rsk: how long did the install take/
[07:10] <rsk> n2diy: i touht alsa-utils came with alsaconf
[07:10] <rsk> n2diy: the ubuntu install? maybe.. 15minutes
[07:11] <rat_poison> btw when is alsa 1.0.14 due?
[07:11] <rat_poison> need to setup my EMU 1212m
[07:11] <Skyrail> I'm having a few problems: I can't mount either my CD-RW or DVD drive and I keep on getting an error about Gnome settings and its reverts back to teh default window theme etc...any idea?
[07:11] <n2diy> rsk:  and locate alsa doesn't find anything?
[07:11] <hakrzcode> rat_poison, edgy has this really annoying habit of scanning for additional partitions, and mounting them at boot time, but if it is accidently unmounted, it appears to disappear for the newbies. It has to be in the fstab, in order to mount and unmount at will.
[07:11] <Kradorex[O9] > Should I just forget about using Ubuntu and go with another distro that supports Wireless and doesn't trash it randomly?
[07:11] <rsk> n2diy: locate alsa finds bunch of stuff, locate alsaconf returns empty
[07:12] <Travela> Alright for some reason if I attempt to SFTP over SSH2 with Filezilla to my OpenSSH installation on Ubuntu .. I get a connection timeout problem .. but if I use SFTP from a remote unix box or the local ubuntu box it works fine.. I can SFTP to other OpenSSH boxes with Filezilla.... What gives?
[07:12] <rat_poison> so, I just use synaptic to get fstab, or is it already installed?
[07:12] <Kradorex[O9] > or is there some way to secure wireless on Ubuntu so it can never get trashed by an unruly component?
[07:12] <n2diy> rsk:  ok, what does locate alsa.conf find?
[07:12] <madcheez2> rat_poison: !fstab
[07:12] <madcheez2> !fstab
[07:12] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[07:12] <rat_poison> !fstab
[07:12] <rsk> n2diy: /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf
[07:13] <rat_poison> ah, I thought this was a bot command
[07:13] <hakrzcode> rat_poison: sorry, it is a file. /etc/fstab. You can look at "man fstab", for help, or run it through google, for the usual defaults.
[07:13] <rat_poison> :)
[07:13] <n2diy> rsk: ah ha, type alsa.conf
[07:13] <rsk> bash: alsa.conf: command not found
[07:13] <Welsh_Dwarf> join #ubuntu-feisty
[07:14] <Kradorex[O9] > Is there something I can do to have reliable wireless on Ubuntu?
[07:14] <rsk> i dont get it n2diy .. seems like alsaconf is removed or my install is screwed up
[07:14] <Skyrail> I'm having a few problems: I can't mount either my CD-RW or DVD drive and I keep on getting an error about Gnome settings and its reverts back to teh default window theme etc...any idea?
[07:14] <Travela> Anyone?
[07:14] <tim167> how can I check what processes are uploading something to the internet and how much?
[07:14] <hakrzcode> Kradorex, a really big satelite dish pointed at your ap. or maybe can you be more specific?
[07:15] <Kradorex[O9] > Okay, I require assistance, my Atheros wireless card functioned perfectly, I mean perfectly, everything knew what it was and how to use it until I rebooted my laptop a day ago, now the drivers got trashed by something, and lshw reports it as "UNCLAIMED"
[07:15] <Kradorex[O9] > (repeated from my original entry)
[07:15] <n2diy> rsk: Why, what happened when you typed alsa.conf?
[07:15] <rsk> n2diy: bash: alsa.conf: command not found
[07:15] <rat_poison> I've added thils [07:15] <TheMafia> how can I move the panel?  I addicently moved it to the left hand side of my screen and I cant find an blank area to drag it back?
[07:16] <rat_poison> shouldn't it be enough?
[07:16] <n2diy> rsk: ok, try sudo alsa.conf
[07:16] <rsk> n2diy: same thing
[07:16] <n2diy> rsk: :/
[07:16] <Hoag> Is there a program I can use to view animated .gifs?
[07:16] <Kradorex[O9] > I know Ubuntu can support Atheros cards WITHOUT ndiswrapper
[07:16] <hakrzcode> Kradorex, sounds like you got a case of file corruption? Maybe if you completely remove, and install the drivers, then that may clean up any mess. Unfortunately that is part of the kernel modules, so in between the two steps, do not reboot.
[07:16] <rsk> Hoag: firefox
[07:16] <n2diy> rsk: ok what does ls -al alsa.conf look like?
[07:16] <madcheez2> rat_poison: im not sure of your hardware setup... you need to know it... and how it is partitioned
[07:16] <Azul> i want to learn how to read, any help?
[07:16] <sdfsdfsdf> 
[07:17] <rsk> n2diy: ls: alsa.conf: No such file or directory
[07:17] <tim167> TheMafia: alt+click+drag
[07:17] <n2diy> rsk: ok what does ls -al alsa.conf look like?
[07:17] <Hoag> rsk: Ahh, Open With > Firefox...  I must have hit my head, cheers!
[07:17] <rsk> n2diy: thats the same line?
[07:18] <phr34ck> how can I assign F1 to launch FireFox ?
[07:18] <rsk> get the same result anyway
[07:18] <n2diy> rsk: no its not, you missed the first al.
[07:18] <rsk> ah ok
[07:18] <rat_poison> 2 IDE physical disks, First physical disk one partition with an NTFS file system (the boot partition for windows) one for slash root (ext-3 fs) and one swap partition.
[07:18] <rsk> ruskie@ruskie-desktop:~$ ls -al alsa.conf
[07:18] <rsk> ls: alsa.conf: No such file or directory
[07:18] <rat_poison> On the second physical disk, one NTFS partition
[07:18] <hakrzcode> rat_poison: that should be enough. Go to Places->Computer, and see if your partion is ready for mounting. But, beware, ntfs is unwritable, read only.
[07:18] <madcheez2> i gotta bolt, see you guys...
[07:19] <Slart> I few minutes ago I had a working ubuntu edgy, I could play games with 3d acceleration.. all was fine.. then a crash.. now I can't even run glxgears without X restarting
[07:19] <Slart> any troubleshooting hints?
[07:19] <rat_poison> I know, I've read it in the FAQ
[07:19] <rsk> n2diy: same result
[07:20] <falso> how i can add my wifi ethernet to knetwork?
[07:20] <rat_poison> totally stupid question: Should I reboot first?
[07:20] <snail> Slart: if you're lucky you've saved lots of the commands you used into .bash_history either as root or your user
[07:21] <n2diy> rsk what does ls -al /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf tell you?
[07:21] <rsk> n2diy: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7640 2006-07-13 16:04 /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf
[07:21] <snail> Slart: also it could be related to not loading a module. loading a kernel module and having a kernel module load at boot are seperate operations
[07:21] <manuel_> hola!
[07:22] <n2diy> rsk:   hmmm, what happens when you type sudo /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf ?
[07:23] <rsk> n2diy: Password:
[07:23] <rsk> sudo: /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf: command not found
[07:23] <n2diy> rsk: enter it.
[07:23] <rsk> i did
[07:23] <stranger_stone> Hello :)
[07:23] <rat_poison> HURRAY! It's been mounted!
[07:23] <n2diy> rsk: then what?
[07:23] <rsk> sudo: /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf: command not found
[07:23] <Linuturk> i need to set a static ip in the /etc/network/interfaces file
[07:23] <Linuturk> what is the syntax for that?
[07:23] <un4get> help . did ubuntu come with firewall ? what firewall recomended  ?
[07:23] <rat_poison> thnx u guys, I don't know what I was doing wrong, but it just happened when I retyped sudo mount -a
[07:23] <malcol> While installing windows on a second disk I managed to wipe the disk that linux was on.  I have formatted the whole disk to Raw.  Any suggestion as to which software will help me get it back
[07:23] <rsk> alsaconf have never stopped working for me in any linux distro
[07:24] <rsk> this is weird n2diy
[07:24] <WolfmanK> For some reason Ubuntu 6.10 didn't pick up my USB and Firewire ports on install, how do I enable them now?
[07:24] <deus> Im going to upgrade from dapper to edgy, but its the first time im using aptitude for that, and im wondering if im going to loose a lot of stuff, so i wonder if these outputs are normal:
[07:24] <n2diy> rsk: looks like a permission problem.
[07:24] <deus> 1565 packages upgraded, 214 newly installed, 114 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[07:25] <rsk> n2diy: then what could have caused it, i just installed ubuntun one hour ago. i havent tampered with anything..
[07:25] <n2diy> rsk:  type sudo chmod 744 /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf
[07:25] <stoon1> n2diy: alsa.conf is a config file
[07:25] <Kradorex[O9] > Okay...
[07:25] <n2diy> rsk: ?
[07:25] <rsk> done
[07:25] <rsk> and then?
[07:25] <deus> there is also some dependants here:   python2.4-twisted: Avhenger av: python2.4-twisted-core (>= 2.1) but it is not installable
[07:25] <n2diy> stoon1:  no kidding!?
[07:25] <Kradorex[O9] > I've tried reinstalling the kernel modules, wireless still doesn't come up
[07:25] <cyber_brain_mfkg> someone tryed pcsx emulator for PS???how to run it and configure joypad???it sais that there is a segmentation foult!!!:( what i'm doing wrong???
[07:25] <stoon1> n2diy: yes
[07:26] <n2diy> stoon1:  and what would suggest we run to config alsa then?
[07:26] <rat_poison> I can use whatever directory name I want in order to mount NTFS disks, as long as it's under /media/(whatever)
[07:26] <rat_poison> Right?
[07:26] <lupine_85> rat_poison: it can be mounted anywhere
[07:26] <mnoir> deus: general comment - looks normal to me.  many things get obsoleted tween releases.  many packages are actually 2 files and a doc for some library that is no longer needed.  Specific answer:  if you care, go over the list.  I dunno about aptitude, but synaptic sure will let you see all the metadata and files for installed things.
[07:27] <rioghal> rat_poison, it doesn't even have to be under /media
[07:27] <stoon1> n2diy: Preferences -> Sound
[07:27] <cyber_brain_mfkg> !pcsx
[07:27] <ubotu> pcsx: Sony PlayStation emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.699df-rc3-1 (edgy), package size 8 kB, installed size 40 kB
[07:27] <stoon1> n2diy: or by hand
[07:27] <cyber_brain_mfkg> !pcsx help
[07:27] <rsk> i just want alsaconf
[07:27] <rsk> :/
[07:27] <rioghal> cyber_brain_mfkg, Does that allow one to play playstation games on a regular computer?
[07:27] <n2diy> stoon1: we are working on doing it by hand, but I don't know if rsk tried Pref/sound?
[07:28] <hakrzcode> rat_poison, /mnt is the traditional for creating mounts. /media was created for the use of on the fly mount points, usb discs, cdroms, etc..
[07:28] <rat_poison> As long as I specify where I want it in fstab, right?
[07:28] <cyber_brain_mfkg> rioghal, what u mean?i can't play at all!
[07:28] <stoon1> n2diy: on ubuntu Pref/Sound Audodetect for all works well for me.
[07:29] <hakrzcode> yes, rat_poison, you can mount anywhere you want, you can even create a folder in /proc, and mount it, if you wish. Mount away.
[07:29] <mnoir> rat_poison: you can use any dir you want to use as long as it is on your machine.  but sticking to the standard makes support easier :)
[07:29] <rioghal> cyber_brain_mfkg, that's what I was wondering
[07:29] <n2diy> stoon1: the perms on alsa.conf are 644, so no one can exectute it, that is what I'm working on now.
[07:29] <markeib> there are many programs that don't work anymore (kaffeine, beryl, totem, amarok) how can i know why?
[07:29] <Kradorex[O9] > I've re-installed Ubuntu 3 times over the past week, I've gone through the same procedure, installing the kernel modules, wireless starts working, then it suddenly stops without a single visable reason
[07:29] <enyc> t
[07:29] <enyc> 1
[07:29] <cyber_brain_mfkg> rioghal, u tryed pcsx ?it works on your ubuntu?
[07:29] <n2diy> stoon1: ok, if rsk ever comes back, will try it.
[07:29] <rioghal> cyber_brain_mfkg, I never tried it
[07:30] <stoon1> n2diy: a conf file shouldn't be execute
[07:30] <mnoir> rat_poison: here is the standard:  http://www.pathname.com/fhs/
[07:30] <rat_poison> thnx guys, you've been very helpful! It's just by first day at Linux, and I have many things I need to learn yet
[07:30] <sharo> hello every one
[07:30] <lupine_85> cyber_brain_mfkg: it sort of worked here
[07:30] <lupine_85> with a lot of faffing about with the plugins
[07:30] <n2diy> stoon1: why not? I run config files before.
[07:30] <sharo> my any one help me
[07:31] <stoon1> n2diy: they aren't for execure, if you execure a file it is a script not a config file
[07:31] <cyber_brain_mfkg> lupine_85, is there gui 4 pcsx?
[07:31] <rioghal> n2diy, why would you execute a config file? config files are there to hold setting so that apps can pick up those settings from the config file.
[07:31] <lupine_85> pcsx /is/ a gui
[07:31] <lupine_85> personally I'd use ePSXe
[07:31] <sharo> i want to run the magnifier on ubuntu 5.04
[07:31] <lupine_85> it's better
[07:32] <rioghal> sharo, screen magnification?
[07:32] <rat_poison> 2nd question: does anyone know when ALSA 1.0.14 is due for release? Will I be having problems with 1.0.14 RC1 ?
[07:32] <cyber_brain_mfkg> when i type pcsx in terminal i get this: /usr/games/pcsx: line 31: lndir: command not found
[07:32] <n2diy> rioghal: stoon1, in other *nixs I've run conf files, and here it is common to tell someone to run xorg.conf, so what goes?
[07:32] <Kradorex[O9] > I haven't had any other distro dump a device like this before, i.e. driver becoming "corrupt" - I want to know why Ubuntu keeps corrupting my drivers and what I can do to stop it
[07:32] <mnoir> sharo: it might be inconvenient, but you should plan to upgrade - 5.04 is not well supported antmore
[07:32] <cyber_brain_mfkg> lupine_85,  when i type pcsx in terminal i get this: /usr/games/pcsx: line 31: lndir: command not found
[07:33] <Kradorex[O9] > I want Ubuntu because of it's massive repository, but I don't want my wireless trashed all the time
[07:33] <rioghal> n2diy, xorg.conf is a config file that holds settings so that xorg (not the xorg.conf) can pick up those settings when x runs
[07:33] <lupine_85> cyber_brain_mfkg: install xutils-dev
[07:33] <stoon1> n2diy: i never head of running xorg.conf, maybe it was Xconfigure or something else,
[07:33] <Maximilian1st> Hi all, I use Xubuntu but I am sure the shutdown menu resides in the same place... Where is it to be found? The shutdown menu where you can choose between shut down and suspend and standby...?
[07:33] <n2diy> ! xorg.conf
[07:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorg.conf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:34] <mnoir> org.conf is not an executable...
[07:34] <mnoir> uuh - xorg.conf
[07:34] <n2diy> so how is X configured then?
[07:34] <cyber_brain_mfkg> lupine_85, and when i type pcsx.real i get window with message : could not open plugin/ dir
[07:34] <rioghal> n2diy, as stoon1 said, if you ran a file before, it was probably a script, not a config file.
[07:34] <Toph> i am running ubuntu 6.10. it runs well for a day or so and then i'm unable to load most programs,  i launch the program, the machine attempts to load it, but finally drops it. when i reboot, all is well again.. any suggestions?
[07:34] <lupine_85> so install some plugins
[07:34] <mnoir> n2diy: by certain gui things, the autoconfigurer, by manual edit of xorg.conf
[07:35] <hakrzcode> Toph, you ran out of disk space?
[07:35] <Maximilian1st> Toph, out of ram? some mem leak in some app?
[07:35] <n2diy> rioghal: stoon1, mnoir well it looks like a moot point now, rsk as awol.
[07:35] <Toph> hakrzcode,, it almost seems like it,, not even a terminal will load
[07:35] <cyber_brain_mfkg> lupine_85, theres no xutils-dev in ubuntu repositories!!!where to find it?
[07:36] <rioghal> n2diy, ok, we'll have to send out a search party, lol
[07:36] <Toph> how do I determine if the memory is the problem?  i have 512K
[07:36] <cyber_brain_mfkg> lupine_85, there's only xutils
[07:36] <WolfmanK> For some reason Ubuntu 6.10 didn't pick up my USB and Firewire ports on install, how do I enable them now?
[07:36] <Toph> of RAM
[07:36] <n2diy> rioghal: I see ya.
[07:36] <lupine_85> !info xutils-dev
[07:37] <hakrzcode> Toph, it can be the ram, or disk space. a log out and log back in, maybe. try to check the ~/.xsession-errors, from the console. "ctl-F1"
[07:37] <ubotu> xutils-dev: X Window System utility programs for development. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.2-3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 289 kB, installed size 1648 kB
[07:37] <lupine_85> no, there's xutils-dev as well
[07:37] <deus> What shall i do with unmet dependecies when dist-upgrading?
[07:37] <hakrzcode> oops, "ctl-alt-f1"
[07:37] <lupine_85> deus: panic, generally
[07:38] <rioghal> deus, are you using repos other than the ubuntu repos or have you installed .deb packages manually?
[07:38] <Toph> habrzcode,, i'll check that
[07:38] <knight__> HI all
[07:38] <metres> Hi all, I have a boot problem... the sequence block after the choice of the kernel... here is the message that I get (my chekfs.log...) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1194/
[07:38] <knight__> I am having an Issue with Proftp
[07:38] <Jowi> deus, first of all, are you running kubuntu or ubuntu?
[07:39] <mnoir> deus: you will need to evaluate each individually
[07:39] <da> hi all
[07:39] <knight__> I am not able to start my Proftpd
[07:39] <randig> Whos there?
[07:39] <cyber_brain_mfkg> lupine_85, it looks like i havent setup my repositories as i should!thanx and i'll try to install it!
[07:39] <randig> ???
[07:40] <Jowi> hmmmm.
[07:40] <knight__> I am haivng Issues starting proftp
[07:40] <randig> aha
[07:40] <clearzen> Does anyone know where SIOCSIFADDR is located in your system?
[07:40] <knight__> clearaen
[07:40] <mnoir> !elaborate | knight__
[07:40] <randig> snacka svenska!!
[07:40] <ubotu> knight__: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[07:40] <knight__> clearzen so a whereis an the filena,e
[07:41] <clearzen> knight__: what?
[07:41] <Jowi> randig, /join #ubuntu-se
[07:41] <knight__> run the whereis command
[07:41] <mnoir> clearzen: that is a flag - ask another question :)
[07:41] <randig> leaving...
[07:41] <knight__> whereis "filename"
[07:41] <deus> kubuntu more or less
[07:42] <clearzen> knight__:Oh, cool. I'll try it
[07:42] <deus> Jowi: mooey how do i do that?
[07:42] <knight__> ok let me know if that helped
[07:42] <mikelo> i've just installed a tv card, which creates a conflict with my audio ac97 card
[07:42] <knight__> I am using Proftpd and when I start the service it does not run
[07:43] <knight> somebody played a low profile trick...
[07:43] <knight__> Would it help if I paste the conf file
[07:43] <rat_poison> bye bye guys!
[07:44] <Jowi> deus, do what?
[07:44] <matthe1> this sucks
[07:44] <clearzen> knight__: Nope. It didn't tell me. I'm looking for the location of siocsifflags as well. I broke my networking on one of my boxes by changing permissions and I am trying to fix it.
[07:44] <matthe1> my direct rendering: No
[07:44] <knight__> what is that
[07:45] <deus> that was more to mnoir
[07:45] <deus> Jowi: and im using kubuntu
[07:45] <rider> hi
[07:45] <cyber_brain_mfkg> lupine_85, i updated my repo list and i still can't find xutils-dev :(
[07:45] <Jowi> deus, ok. and are you dist-upgrading in order to change ubuntu versions or is this a general dist-upgrade?
[07:45] <cyber_brain_mfkg> !xutils-dev
[07:45] <ubotu> xutils-dev: X Window System utility programs for development. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.2-3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 289 kB, installed size 1648 kB
[07:46] <rider> bie guies
[07:46] <lupine_85> !info xutils-dev dapper
[07:46] <clearzen> Can I completely reinstall the networking on a computer without re-installing ubuntu?
[07:46] <ubotu> Package xutils-dev does not exist in dapper
[07:46] <lupine_85> aha
[07:47] <deus> Jowi: im going from dapper to edgyt
[07:47] <deus> edgy
[07:47] <cyber_brain_mfkg> lupine_85, i have dapper
[07:47] <lupine_85> yes
[07:47] <lupine_85> one minute
[07:47] <nemo_work> How does one get a list of available wireless networks in ubuntu?
[07:47] <Jowi> deus, make sure you have kubuntu-desktop installed first of all.
[07:47] <n2diy> deus: why?
[07:47] <Jowi> deus, that should take care of most dependency problems
[07:48] <deus> Jowi: well, i allready updatete to the edgy source list
[07:48] <deus> should i use that?
[07:48] <n2diy> deus: why do you want to upgrade to edgy?
[07:49] <Jowi> deus, not sure if it is too late or not. which packages have problems?
[07:49] <clearzen> What files does /etc/networking/interfaces access to bring your interfaces online?
[07:49] <dustin> hey how do i reconfigure my network card?
[07:49] <lupine_85> cyber_brain_mfkg: the lndir command doesn't exist in dapper
[07:49] <n2diy> dustin: click on sys/admin/networking
[07:49] <erUSUL> dustin: systema>Admin>Network
[07:49] <dustin> i am getting server not found....   and no connection to the internet or anything
[07:50] <cyber_brain_mfkg> lupine_85, so,what should i do?
[07:50] <dustin> n2diy, er4z0r it sais it can't find an eth#
[07:50] <deus> n2diy: let me go philosphical on your ass: why not?
[07:50] <mnoir> clearzen: none - since it is a config file and not an executable. can you rephrase the question?
[07:50] <cyber_brain_mfkg> lupine_85, any idea?
[07:51] <dustin> i did lspci and i can see both of my network cards.
[07:51] <n2diy> deus: because you'll spend a lot of time in here fixing things, but go for it, it is time not mine.
[07:51] <Bluedog260> Hey guys
[07:51] <deus> Jowi: http://pastebin.ca/313306
[07:51] <n2diy> dustin: what says it can't find eth#?
[07:51] <deus> n2diy: like what? what issues have come forth?
[07:51] <Bluedog260> just got ubuntu going on my hdd...
[07:52] <Bluedog260> this may sound silly, but as the start bar is so empty, how do you know which apps you have?!
[07:52] <jengc0il> hello
[07:52] <Jowi> deus, did you interrupt the dist-upgrade or did you continue to upgrade dispite the problems?
[07:52] <Bluedog260> ie irc clients, I'm assuming I need to add one.. I know kde comes with knversation..
[07:52] <mnoir> Bluedog260: do you have the applications thingie and others on the left?
[07:52] <clearzen> mnoir: Well, basicly everytime I try to bring an interface online I get these errors. Even when running as root SIOCSIFADDR: permission denied and SIOCSIFFLAGS: permission denied. Any idea how I can fix it?
[07:52] <Bluedog260> yup
[07:52] <n2diy> deus: nvidia/ati drivers break and other stuff, hang out here for a while, and you'll see a majority of the questions asked here are edgy related.
[07:52] <Bluedog260> just seems pretty empty compared to other installs ive done
[07:53] <Marupa> Well, so far after twelve hours I've not gotten so much as a response to my question posted on the board.
[07:53] <stoone> dustin: try 'sudo ifconfig eth0 up; dhclient eth0'
[07:53] <MarkDetroit> Hey guys, I'm having trouble with a new install of Edgy.  I have it installed, but I can't get X working with my ATI card.  I got it to work on the live CD, but I can't get apt-get to install xorg-driver-fglrx.  I get something like "E: cannot find package" or something.  I have wrking internet and can ping ggogle.com from terminal.
[07:53] <Marupa> I'd appreciate at least a partial response.  the post is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1997057
[07:53] <dustin> stoo,  thanks
[07:53] <mnoir> clearzen: not exactly sure.  exactly what command are you using?
[07:54] <Bluedog260> So I guess what im asking, how do I know whats already on the system without digging into synaptic? (I dont know the names so searching is hard).
[07:54] <clearzen> mnoir: sudo -s then ifup eth0
[07:54] <Marupa> MarkDetroit, What exactly are you typing/
[07:54] <Marupa> ?*
[07:54] <mnoir> Bluedog260: there is no easy answer to your question except the menus at the left
[07:54] <hakrzcode> MarkDetroit, did you enable, Multiverse, and Universe, then apt-get update?
[07:54] <MarkDetroit> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[07:54] <roler> Has anyone upgraded Edgy's Kernel to 2.6.20 from Feisty?
[07:55] <lupine_85> cyber_brain_mfkg: use ePSXe? update to edgy? buy a playstation?
[07:55] <Marupa> try sudo apt-cache search xorg-driver
[07:55] <mnoir> clearzen: pastebin your interfaces file?
[07:55] <pike_> Marupa: offchance  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   and comment out the top cd entry and sudo apt-get update maybe
[07:55] <Bluedog260> ok mnoir, ta
[07:55] <clearzen> mnoir: yesterday I accidentallychanged the permissions in my /etc directory
[07:55] <Bluedog260> a related question, how do you add programs to the applications menu, etc
[07:55] <Marupa> then if that finds an appropriate driver, use the correct package as found in there.
[07:55] <Bluedog260> id like to add synaptic..
[07:55] <deus> n2diy: well, i got a laptop i installed edgy on and it runs smooth as it could go
[07:55] <cyber_brain_mfkg> lupine_85, lol!ok thanx!;)
[07:55] <mnoir> clearzen: most folks start the network using the init.d script
[07:55] <MarkDetroit> Marupa , Thanks, I'll try it.  Lemme reboot.
[07:55] <clearzen> mnoir: It took me an hour to get root access again
[07:55] <deus> n2diy: is it just dist-upgrade people are having problems with however?
[07:55] <Jowi> deus, before I give you advice I need to know if you already have started the upgrade or if you interrupted it when you saw there were problems?
[07:55] <jengc0il> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1197/
[07:56] <n2diy> deus: congrats, you lucked out.
[07:56] <Marupa> YW, MarkDetroit.
[07:56] <clearzen> oh, I've tried that too
[07:56] <deus> Jowi: it never started
[07:56] <mnoir> clearzen: oh boy
[07:56] <hakrzcode> Bluedog, it is under System-Administration.
[07:56] <n2diy> deus: yes, it seems to be that.
[07:56] <Bluedog260> I'm on edgy
[07:56] <stoone> dustin: 'iface eth0 inet dhcp' line should be in your /etc/networkd/interfaces file, and the new sould be good on the next boot too.
[07:56] <Bluedog260> the guide says it is, but its not on mine =(
[07:56] <mnoir> clearzen: then i dunno what perm might be screwed up.  very hard to troubleshoot
[07:56] <Bluedog260> installed from a livecd if it makes a difference
[07:57] <MarkDetroit> Hakrzcode , how do I enable Multi and Uni from terminal?  update sources.list with nano?
[07:57] <deus> I couldnt, aptitude is built so it can better resolve packages, and it keeps asking me it it should "try harder to solve them"
[07:57] <deus> when i say no it stops
[07:57] <clearzen> mnoir: Yeah, If I didn't have like 600GB of video on it I would just reinstall ubuntu
[07:57] <deus> "No solution found within the allotted time.  Try harder?"
[07:57] <mnoir> clearzen: have you tried using the init.d script to bounce yer network?  what essages appear in the log?
[07:57] <hakrzcode> Bluedog260, it is installed by default.
[07:57] <stoone> dustin: and an 'auto eth0' line too
[07:57] <Bluedog260> I'm looking in the system - administration menu, synaptic isnt listed
[07:57] <Bluedog260> i know its isntalled as ive used it
[07:57] <Jowi> deus, then it is safe to switch back to the dapper repos. install kubuntu-desktop. then turn back to the edgy ones, apt-get update and dist-upgrade. if you still get errors. take a note which packages have conflics, and remove them. you can always re-install them after the upgrade has finished. was I clear or should i rephrase?
[07:57] <clearzen> not yet. I'll try that though
[07:57] <Bluedog260> I just want to add a shortcut :)
[07:57] <matthe1`w> ok i used had bearl working and my 3d games working and edgy upgraded it seft and now the driver "nvidia" doesnt work and i had to change to driver "nv"
[07:57] <Marupa> All right, does anyone here know much about tablets and/or USB devices?
[07:58] <mnoir> clearzen: any spare disks to install on and just call yer current mess a data disk for a little while?
[07:58] <hakrzcode> MarkDetroit, yes, you will have to sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list, and then find the lines that speak about enable the following line.
[07:58] <mnoir> clearzen: prolly prudent in the future to make a separate filesystem for the tons of video
[07:59] <Jowi> deus, also note which programs are dependent of those packages and remove them. install them after the upgrade has finished.
[07:59] <hakrzcode> Bluedog260, well, mouse over the Applications, in your upper menu, then right click is a menu editor.
[07:59] <Jowi> deus, now, I need to go. good luck
[07:59] <un_operateur> Jowi, why not just reinstall kubuntu-desktop instead of switching back and forth?
[07:59] <clearzen> mnoir: Yeah, I was going to buy a usb drive to back it all up
[07:59] <Bluedog260> cool
[07:59] <Bluedog260> i see synaptic listed, but cant tick the box :/
[08:00] <Bluedog260> its in italics
[08:00] <Puck_> hi people!
[08:00] <Ianman> hi all
[08:00] <ToHellWithGA> when i restart gdm using invoke-rc.d i get a blank screen on ctrl+alt+f7.  do yall have any suggestions on fixing that?
[08:00] <Puck_> may i do a question?
[08:01] <Ianman> Puck_, sure
[08:01] <mnoir> !ask | Puck_
[08:01] <ubotu> Puck_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:01] <Marupa> What is your question, Puck_?
[08:01] <emss> how do you change the gnome splash screen?
[08:01] <Puck_> i have a problem with my videocard
[08:01] <Jowi> un_operateur, because the meta package for kubuntu-desktop is for the edgy repos. he's on dapper now.
[08:01] <n2diy> anybody see why my connection broke a minute or two ago?
[08:01] <un_operateur> ToHellWithGA, errm, you restart gdm using  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:01] <phr34ck> n2diy, connection reset my peer
[08:01] <Vanuatoo1> Hello
[08:02] <mnoir> n2diy: i have those messages surpressed - it is noisy enuf in here :(
[08:02] <Ianman> does anyone know where I can find a howto on installing ati open source drivers? I have been searching with google for about an hour and no dice...
[08:02] <Jowi> un_operateur, if he tries to install kubuntu-desktop it will get the files from the edgy repos, which is not what he want. he need to install kubuntu-desktop before starting the dist-upgrade to edgy
[08:02] <Puck_> i'm using an ubuntu edgy (was born like dapper, but i done a dist-upgrade)
[08:02] <ToHellWithGA> un_operateur: is 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart' not the same?
[08:02] <Jowi> sorry, i'm gone. need to go. c u :)
[08:02] <Vanuatoo1> I've got ubuntu with windows xp in dual boot. grub is default boot loader. If I remove linux partitions from windows will I be able to boot into windows?
[08:02] <hakrzcode> hmmm, bluedog260, it is enabled for me. did you accidently uninstall? for instance install something that brought out the question of the following will be removed: ?
[08:03] <Puck_> i'm using an ATI Raedon videocard
[08:03] <phr34ck> Ianman, wait 2 minutes. I have the package somewhere.
[08:03] <mnoir> !ati | Ianman have you looked here
[08:03] <ubotu> Ianman have you looked here: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:03] <n2diy> hello?
[08:03] <Ianman> phr34ck, k thanks
[08:03] <Puck_> ad i'm using no free drivers for it
[08:03] <Bluedog> sorry guys, my bad
[08:03] <Bluedog> was on as root, not myself :)
[08:03] <reza2gholubeza> Hi , I have problem in my network , i connect to my Wifi router and also i can ping for ex www.yahoo.com but i cant load the page via my FIreFox , is there ant possibility ?
[08:03] <ToHellWithGA> Vanuatoo1: i'd recommend removing linux partitions, if you must, using the GParted Live CD
[08:03] <Monster`> hi., how can I remove the password from my user so I can loginin from VNC
[08:03] <Ianman> ubotu, that is the binary and has no DRI support
[08:03] <Bluedog> Question I have, how do I set a root password?
[08:03] <Monster`> Now I have to enter the password on the server first before I can connect to with vnc
[08:03] <hakrzcode> Ianman, the drivers are there, by default. It is radeon, but you will not get direct rendering.
[08:03] <Bluedog> I have my user account, and its password, but don't know how to access or change root..
[08:03] <Flannel> Bluedog: Why do you want to?
[08:03] <mnoir> !sudo | Bluedog
[08:04] <ubotu> Bluedog: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:04] <deus> Well, aptitude found a solution
[08:04] <Ianman> hakrzcode, thats point, i want direct reding to use AIGLX
[08:04] <mnoir> deus: what is it?
[08:04] <Ianman> :)
[08:04] <Bluedog> yeah, but cant you just force it into runlevel 1 as root?
[08:04] <phr34ck> Ianman, sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx-control
[08:04] <Bluedog> I just did to fix my drivers
[08:04] <phr34ck> download those 2 packages.
[08:04] <Puck_> with fgl_glxgears i have the "little cube"
[08:04] <stoone> Bluedog: sudo passwd
[08:04] <Flannel> Bluedog: sure, from grub, boot to single user mode
[08:04] <Flannel> Bluedog: er, rescue mode
[08:05] <Flannel> Bluedog: but, ubuntu really doesn't use/need a root password
[08:05] <Puck_> fglrx function
[08:05] <Rprp> Well, My I cant See my Turn Off/Restart button in the 'Turn Off' menu :p Can someone help me please?
[08:05] <hakrzcode> ianman, you will have to swap your xserver, then layer the xservers. I tried it, and it worked ok, but random freezes. I do not use it now.
[08:05] <Flannel> Bluedog: that page will explain why
[08:05] <Puck_> is beryl that can't go
[08:05] <Bluedog> thanks :) will read
[08:05] <D7> Anyone have ubuntu on a via epia me6000?
[08:05] <slestak> apt-get doesnt appear to be using all my available bandwidth.  i am using dialup with a tethered cellphone (w evdo) i can surf the web with firefox, get ok throughput, but apt-get only gets ~ 1-2k/sec sometimes lower.  lots of pauses and stops.
[08:05] <Ianman> so xgl is better to use?
[08:05] <hakrzcode> Ianman, do you wish the instructions, to use at your own risk?
[08:05] <Puck_> Android`, after had modified xorg.conf
[08:05] <matthe2> omg
[08:05] <Ianman> hakrzcode, sure
[08:05] <Puck_> also gdm crash
[08:05] <matthe2> stop crashing me
[08:05] <hakrzcode> hold on. let me refind the link.
[08:05] <Ianman> hakrzcode, I have nothing to loose on this isntallation :)
[08:05] <Ianman> hakrzcode, great thanks!~
[08:05] <n2diy> anybody see why my connection broke 5 minutes ago?
[08:06] <tuxedup> I am buying an acer lapto (aspire 5000 series) and the majoruity of the controls e.g. volume up and down are on the normal keyes (volume is up and down keys), will this cause any issues?
[08:06] <ToHellWithGA> Ianman: what do you have to "lose" though?  i have nothing to "loose" on my installation either.  it's already all loose
[08:06] <facugaich> What web server/database do tou recommend to use with RoR?
[08:06] <mnoir> tuxedup: you gotta use some funny shift don't you?
[08:07] <Ianman> ToHellWithGA, :P
[08:07] <matthe2> ok i used had bearl and 3d games working 3 days ago and edgy upgraded and now my driver "nvidia" wont work and had to change to driver "nv"
[08:07] <Flannel> facugaich: Apache and... whatever DB you're comfortable with
[08:07] <behdad_dazed> Hi , I have problem in my network , i connect to my Wifi router and also i can ping for ex www.yahoo.com but i cant load the page via my FIreFox , is there any possibility ?
[08:07] <nemo_work> tuxedup: my laptop has a mute that works like that, and does require a special function key be used.
[08:07] <Enverex> Does anyone know how I can add some colour to the terminal prompt?
[08:07] <Bluedog> so I see, root isnt set up by default :)
[08:07] <Bluedog> gotcha
[08:08] <nnacht> hello, what can I do if my usb-mouse always crashes?
[08:08] <Puck_> ok
[08:08] <hakrzcode> Ianman: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[08:08] <tuxedup> mnoir: yeh I think its altGr+key, i dotn have it yet so I dont know
[08:08] <jmartini> So I'm having an issue with the latest ATI drivers. I get "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"." when I run glxgears and fgl_glxgears. Any ideas?
[08:08] <mnoir> Enverex: there is a page somewhere, sec
[08:08] <mnoir> tuxedup: i think that will not interfere with linux but i do not know how you will make it work in linux either
[08:08] <tuxedup> nemo_work: did you have to fiddle to grt those types of things working?
[08:09] <facugaich> Flannel: But what about FastCGI?
[08:09] <Ianman> hakrzcode, thanks.....but that is still for XGL ;-)
[08:09] <Bluedog> so, single user mode isnt really running as root?
[08:09] <hakrzcode> jmartini, you do not have rendering enabled. If you have just installed edgy, then composite is still enabled. disable composite in your xorg.conf, and restart X.
[08:09] <Tinned_Tuna> does any one think it's possible to install FC6 to a 4Gb USB stick and boot it?
[08:09] <Bluedog> otherwise anyone could kill x, enter single user mode and view all files?
[08:09] <Bluedog> maybe im missing something..
[08:09] <dtg> anybody got an idea why it won't assign an ip with DHCP automatically, on a wired, on startup? I have to manually go to Network Settings and disable/activate eth0, and then it gets an ip. it worked before.
[08:09] <tuxedup> mnoir: I am presuming the same will apply for the controls to alter the screen brightness etc, they are all thr F command keys
[08:09] <mnoir> Enverex: if you google 'color prompt bash' you will get lots of links for cool prompt stuff
[08:10] <Flannel> facugaich: fastCGI is compatable with apache.
[08:10] <jmartini> hakrzcode: that has some pretty serious side effects so I removed that section but I'll try it again
[08:10] <Enverex> mnoir, thanks
[08:10] <emss> jmartini: does your /etc/X11/xorg.conf say Load "dri" ?
[08:10] <hakrzcode> Ianman, sorry, until ATI changes their architecture, to the latest, we will not have aiglx or anything of its kind.
[08:10] <jmartini> emss: yes
[08:10] <mnoir> tuxedup: yes - in general the custom key stuff does not work without effort but it does not interfere with "normal" keyboard stuff
[08:10] <Rprp> Well, My I cant See my Turn Off/Restart button in the 'Turn Off' menu :p Can someone help me please?
[08:10] <Ianman> hakrzcode, bummer....but there are people with open source driver using it...
[08:10] <facugaich> Flannel: I've read it's outdated and has many flaws
[08:10] <threefs> Hello all, is this a good place to ask a beginner Ubuntu question?
[08:10] <emss> jmartini: is it commented out?
[08:11] <mnoir> Enverex: write an ubuntu howto when you get back - pass on the gift
[08:11] <hakrzcode> jmartini, ati does not allow composite, and if it is enabled, it will turn off direct rendering. Check the xorg log: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:11] <mnoir> threefs: prolly
[08:11] <dtg> anybody?
[08:11] <Flannel> facugaich: then why are you interested in using it?
[08:11] <jmartini> emss: no its not commented out. It's probably the composite thing but that cause graphics artifacts
[08:11] <tuxedup> mnoir: hmm, that kind of rules the laptop out, I dont have time to fiddle around just to be able to turn the volume up or down on the machine
[08:12] <hakrzcode> Ianman, you can use it with the open source, but it is fake direct rendering. It runs fast for not rendering, but it locks up sometimes.
[08:12] <jmartini> Thanks I'll try disableing composite again
[08:12] <mnoir> do some research - usually there is a kb mapping solution already available
[08:12] <Ianman> thanks for the help all...back to XGL / Beryl for me then ;)
[08:12] <hakrzcode> Ianman, some SGL stuff still will molases on you.
[08:12] <threefs> Ok, I have a basic question with my video setup on a laptop. Is it hard to setup different screen resolutions? My laptop runs in the correct resolution, but when I boot up with my 19" LCD connected, it will only run in 1024x768.
[08:12] <facugaich> Flannel: Because cgi alone is too slow. Do you know any alternative?
[08:12] <h0ax> hi  i try to make a linux swap , but when it configures i get an error
[08:12] <mnoir> !fixres | threefs have you looked here
[08:12] <ubotu> threefs have you looked here: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:13] <threefs> i was searching the forums, didn't see that one yet however
[08:13] <dtg> !dhcp
[08:13] <ubotu> dhcp: DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0pl5-19.4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 108 kB, installed size 308 kB
[08:13] <threefs> i'll give it a read, thanks
[08:13] <Moosejaw> man i spent all that time switching to kde...and i didnt even care for it that much.
[08:13] <mnoir> threefs: do you know that your 19" will support higher?
[08:13] <sasch> hi all
[08:14] <Moosejaw> i guess its whatever u first start out with eh?
[08:14] <threefs> I run my 19" in 1280x1024 in Windows
[08:14] <mnoir> threefs: that link might not be that helpful for you :(
[08:14] <threefs> that's the preferred resolution
[08:14] <Flannel> facugaich: I actually have never heard of any problems with FastCGI. You might double check your sources on that
[08:14] <mnoir> threefs: oic - then the link might help
[08:15] <facugaich> Flannel: Maybe they we're referring to Windows version, I don't know, thanks anyway. Another question, what are the latest working versions of apache/mysql for dapper? 2.3/5.0?
[08:15] <mnoir> Moosejaw: to a great extent.  i prefer kde cuz i started there :)
[08:15] <facugaich> 2.2
[08:16] <h0ax> hi  i try to make a linux swap , but when it configures i get an error
[08:16] <threefs> Ok, just wasn't sure if needing to be able to switch back and forth between 2 different monitors (laptop screen and the LCD) and resolutions would cause problems
[08:16] <madcheez1> ok, this config runs so good... now if i can just keep from breakin it
[08:16] <Moosejaw> mnoir:  I started in gnome, and after the learning curve and some modified themes etc it is just as functional as kde
[08:16] <jmartini> looks like I'll need to live without dri. disabling composite rendering totally screws things up
[08:16] <dtg> anybody got an idea why it won't assign an ip with DHCP automatically, on a wired, on startup? I have to manually go to Network Settings and disable/activate eth0, and then it gets an ip. it worked before.
[08:16] <Moosejaw> i kinda wish i started with kde, but no point switching now
[08:16] <Moosejaw> hehe
[08:16] <mnoir> Moosejaw: functional yes - some just do not like the decorations as well
[08:17] <madcheez1> hell, gnome can be so configured that its better than kde... to me anyways..
[08:17] <h0ax> hi  i try to make a linux swap , but when it configures i get an error
[08:17] <nolimitsoya> how do i add a new logical partition to an existing extended one? gparted wont let me, saying that i can only have four primary, not allowing me to add to the extended table..
[08:17] <hakrzcode> jmartini? Really? Usually enabling composite, messes things up. I have not seen your type of problem before.
[08:18] <Flannel> facugaich: 2.0.55 and... well, SQL5, no idea about minor version, you can check : packages.ubuntu.com
[08:18] <stoone> dtg: what is in your /etc/netwrok/interfaces? is there two lines 'iface eth0 inet dhcp' and 'eth0 auto'?
[08:18] <hakrzcode> I am up to date with the drivers. I even download from ATI, whenever they announce a new version. I keep crossing my fingers for composite support.
[08:18] <facugaich> Flannel: Ok, thanks
[08:18] <mnoir> threefs: there is the issue of audodetecting which mon to use and i do not know the ins and outs of configging that.  fortunately cmd/alt/+/- is there to switch instantly
[08:18] <Lynx-> will something bad happen if I disable starting usplash during boot/shutdown?
[08:18] <sladen> Lynx-: just remove 'splash' from the kernel command line
[08:19] <nolimitsoya> Lynx-, no
[08:19] <k31th> wow audiophile usb works out of the box with ubuntu
[08:19] <gh0st> hello, i have some software installed which i do NOT want to upgrade for some reasons; how can i tell this to the update manager? (so that it doesn't check for its updates...)
[08:19] <jmartini> hakrzcode: yeah I was hoping that this last one would make a difference. Disabling Composite generates so many rendering issues that I end up setting it back to the default
[08:19] <Lynx-> I'll get a textmode screen with various messages, right?
[08:19] <stoone> h0ax: what are the syndromes? error, etc?
[08:19] <nolimitsoya> k31th, all envy-cards do :)
[08:19] <nolimitsoya> Lynx-, yes
[08:20] <MAD_DOG> Hello lads.. Got a prob with my samba-server. cant access the files on my ubuntu server from windows - it require user and passw.
[08:20] <Lynx-> good, that's what I need
[08:20] <nolimitsoya> Lynx-, if you want to see them all, remove the 'quiet' too
[08:20] <Enverex> mnoir, yay, pretty prompt, heh, thanks
[08:20] <k31th> nolimitsoya: envy?
[08:20] <hakrzcode> jmartini, ATI gods do not like you I guess. I am just fine with my X700 mobile chip.
[08:20] <nolimitsoya> k31th, the chipset
[08:20] <mnoir> Enverex: :)
[08:20] <k31th> its an m-audio usb
[08:20] <Hoxxin> im gonna install ubuntu for a friend, shes very addicted to msn, would amsn be the most suitable msnclient for her?
[08:20] <nolimitsoya> k31th, yes, and the chipset used in most maudio stuff is via envy
[08:20] <jmartini> hakrzcode: care to msg me your xorg.conf for reference?
[08:20] <mnoir> Enverex: there is the hazard of making a prompt that takes 5 lines :)
[08:20] <hakrzcode> no problem jmartini.
[08:21] <music_> ok i used had bearl and 3d games working 3 days ago and edgy upgraded and now my driver "nvidia" wont work and had to change to driver "nv"
[08:21] <jmartini> hakrzcode: thanks
[08:21] <mnoir> Enverex: i mean with all the stuff ya can put in
[08:21] <Enverex> mnoir, erm, this is pretty much the same as before, but just in colour now so it's easier to spot
[08:21] <Lynx-> btw, is there a way to display all those messages in usplash, too? the feature was present in previous versions of ubuntu, but now I don't see anything but ubuntu logo and a progress bar.
[08:21] <k31th> nolimitsoya: oh right, seems decent quality.
[08:21] <mozart> hi, all
[08:21] <nolimitsoya> k31th, very :)
[08:21] <Batman> #linux
[08:21] <quiet> oh noes! don't remove the 'quiet' !!
[08:21] <quiet> ;
[08:21] <quiet> ;)
[08:21] <rioghal> hahaha
[08:22] <k31th> nolimitsoya: do you do any real time mixing in linux?
[08:22] <nemo_work> does anyone know how to display a list of available wireless networks?
[08:22] <gh0st> hello, i have some software installed which i do NOT want to update for some reasons; how can i tell this to the update manager? (so that it doesn't check for its updates...)
[08:22] <mnoir> Enverex: i have all the color stuff enables so grep hilights, vi highlights and every other pgm that knows color highlights.  i consider that and the programmable auto-complete to be the best things that ever happened to the commandline
[08:22] <nolimitsoya> k31th, no, but if you do: check out musix and jack :)
[08:22] <SuperLag> I am operating under the impression that it's best to use synaptic to update Ubuntu, rather than apt? I thought I heard someone say if you use both, that Synaptic wouldn't be "in sync" with apt
[08:22] <k31th> musix/
[08:23] <k31th> i know of jack.
[08:23] <SuperLag> is there any truth to that?
[08:23] <Flannel> gh0st: all updates are checked at the same time, same file.
[08:23] <nolimitsoya> k31th, and btw, stay away from edgy; horrible latencyproblems
[08:23] <mnoir> SuperLag: synaptic and apt are the same underlying database
[08:23] <rioghal> SuperLag, Synaptic is a GUI front-end to apt
[08:23] <SuperLag> that's what I thought
[08:23] <gh0st> Flannel: so i can't exclude some specific ones to never check
[08:23] <emss> SuperLag: use aptitude
[08:23] <Bluedog> hmm I'm in XChat
[08:23] <SuperLag> so if all I have access to is CLI, at one point, using apt is fine?
[08:23] <rioghal> SuperLag, are you on Dapper or Edgy?
[08:23] <madcheez1> nemo_work: iwlist eth1 scan
[08:23] <Bluedog> how do I open another server window? :D
[08:23] <SuperLag> Edgy
[08:23] <Bluedog> thanks again guys
[08:24] <SuperLag> rioghal: Edgy
[08:24] <marcell_> I've installed nvidia driver for dapper, but in gnome text on buttons, and web etc. are insvisible, till I refresh it. glxgears freezes my xsession. So what to do?
[08:24] <mnoir> Bluedog: server window??
[08:24] <Bluedog> yeah
[08:24] <Bluedog> a second one
[08:24] <nolimitsoya> how do i add a new logical partition to an existing extended one?
[08:24] <mnoir> whazzat?
[08:24] <nemo_work> madcheez1: thanks. now, my mom is trying to get used to ubuntu
[08:24] <nemo_work> is there a gui method?
[08:24] <Bluedog> well, a connection to a seperate irc server
[08:24] <rioghal> SuperLag, Ok, the version of apt-get in Edgy has a new option, --auto-remove, that will remove unused deps along with an app if you remove an app.. the version of apt-get in Dapper didn't have this functionality.
[08:25] <rioghal> SuperLag, That is one reason why some folks recommend aptitude over apt-get
[08:25] <Flannel> gh0st: it may be possible to exclude it from telling you about them, but no.  You download a gzip of the current version information for all the packages, so you can't cherry pick new version information
[08:25] <mnoir> Bluedog: oh, I see - i use knoversation and multi server is built in so i do not know
[08:25] <Bluedog> d'oh :D ok thx anyway
[08:25] <Rprp> Well, My I cant See my Turn Off/Restart button in the 'Turn Off' menu :p Can someone help me please?
[08:25] <hakrzcode> jmartini: xorg transfer aborted. here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1201/
[08:26] <jmartini> hakrzcode: thanks,
[08:26] <hakrzcode> jmartini: np
[08:26] <Flannel> !pin | gh0st, pinning is how you'd do it.  I don't know if it'll get them out of being in update-manager though.
[08:26] <ubotu> gh0st, pinning is how you'd do it.  I don't know if it'll get them out of being in update-manager though.: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[08:26] <madcheez1> um, there is a program that will do it
[08:26] <madcheez1> you have to install it
[08:26] <madcheez1> man, the channel is laggin bad..
[08:26] <mnoir> Rprp: are you saying that System -> Admin -> quit is not there?
[08:26] <madcheez1> nemo_work: use synaptic package manager to find one you like...
[08:27] <gh0st> Flannel: thanks, that could do it
[08:27] <matthe4> ok i used had bearl and 3d games working 3 days ago and edgy upgraded and now my driver "nvidia" wont work and had to change to driver "nv"
[08:27] <Rprp> mnoir: sort of, i mean that 'REd button; :p
[08:27] <habeeb> Seems like Tseliot's depo for ATI drivers is not working.
[08:27] <n2diy_> why does my connection keep breaking? It just started in the last half hour?
[08:28] <SuperLag> rioghal: nice
[08:28] <mnoir> Rprp: so you get the colorful box but shut down is missing??
[08:28] <||cw> wee!  I have edgy installed a HP network scanjet 5
[08:28] <mnoir> Rprp: that's odd - never seen that (or NOT seen that) before.
[08:28] <Rprp> No, but if i click on that bUtton, i dont see 'Turn off or Resttart Change user etc is in it
[08:28] <nemo_work> madcheez1: I spent some time looking online for one.
[08:29] <nemo_work> madcheez1: thought I had located one actually.
[08:29] <mnoir> Rprp: what do you see and what release 6.06 or 6.10?
[08:29] <||cw> couple Q's though, the "setting preliminary keymap" that happens right after the initramfs scripts, where is that and how can I make it faster
[08:29] <nemo_work> what moderately surprises me is that network-admin doesn't show it in the wireless dropdown list
[08:29] <Rprp> 6.06
[08:29] <mnoir> Rprp: and gnome or kde?
[08:29] <rioghal> Rprp, System -> Administration -> Login Window.. and check to see if the "Show Actions Menu" is checked (it's just under "Meny Bar" on the first tab).
[08:29] <Rprp> errrrr... mnoir i dont see 'Turn Off' Gnome
[08:29] <habeeb> Seems like Tseliot's depo for ATI drivers is not working. Any ideas on how to fix it?
[08:29] <Rprp> Aight
[08:29] <rioghal> Rprp, If that is unchecked, it will remove some of the features on the logout dialog.
[08:30] <marshall> whats up guys
[08:30] <Rprp> rioghal: its not checked, i will see if its working
[08:30] <matthe1> ok i used had bearl and 3d games working 3 days ago and edgy upgraded and now my driver "nvidia" wont work and had to change to driver "nv"
[08:30] <mnoir> Rprp: nm - answer rioghal's question - more important
[08:30] <marshall> anybody know how to install a .ttf font?
[08:30] <Rprp> rioghal: it works.
[08:30] <rioghal> Rprp, check that box and see what ahppens
[08:30] <Rprp> mnoir: fixed.
[08:30] <madcheez1> mnoir: just so you know, everything is working perfect for now using automatix... not that its a good thing, but watching dvds, all video files, etc work. im happy...
[08:30] <rioghal> ah, cool
[08:30] <Rprp> Thnx
[08:30] <rioghal> yw
[08:30] <mnoir> madcheez1: doesnt change the unreliability of the tool
[08:30] <emss> matthe1: might know the problem
[08:31] <madcheez1> mnoir: well, i believe in fixing it versus running from it... feel the same way about ubuntu...
[08:31] <mnoir> madcheez1: but i am happy for you - now stick around to help fix the next poor soul for whom it fails
[08:31] <marcell_> I've installed nvidia driver for dapper, but in gnome text on buttons, and web etc. are insvisible, till I refresh it. glxgears freezes my xsession. So what to do?
[08:31] <madcheez1> mnoir: hahahaha
[08:32] <rioghal> 
[08:32] <mnoir> rioghal: how did you do that?
[08:32] <nemo_work> madcheez1: network-manager-gnome seemed likely.  however it didn't actually install anything
[08:32] <emss> matthe1: do you use nvidia-legacy?
[08:32] <marshall> anybody know how to install a .ttf font?
[08:32] <rioghal> mnoir, I copied the smiley from someone else and pasted it into xchat's auto replace feature 
[08:32] <mnoir> rioghal: oh, I see
[08:33] <madcheez1> nemo_work: im sure it did install.. you just have to get it working.. and its probably in the back ground working..
[08:33] <nemo_work> heh
[08:33] <nemo_work> could well be. could be some applet
[08:33] <Rprp> rioghal: do you maybe know how i can get 'Sleep Mode' to my PC? I got it on my laptop, But still not on my pc ;[
[08:33] <senorJ> Hello all I'm a newb - I can't sort the Java plugin for firefox in 6.06 - I've read & tried everything I could find on ubuntu.org & forums - can anyone help
[08:33] <nemo_work> madcheez1: I didn't think it installed because apt-file didn't return anything
[08:33] <madcheez1> nemo_work: you having trouble seeing your wireless?
[08:33] <stoone> marshall: http://www.smorgasbord.net/how_to_install_true_type_fonts_ubuntu_linux
[08:33] <nemo_work> madcheez1: but it seems that apt-file isn't returning anything
[08:33] <madcheez1> apt-file wont...
[08:33] <mnoir> marshall: commandline: copy font into your font directory and bounce X is the no brains way
[08:33] <nemo_work> madcheez1: command you gave worked, just wanted to give her a nice set of instructions
[08:33] <Flannel> !fonts | marshall
[08:33] <ubotu> marshall: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[08:33] <madcheez1> nemo_work: apt-file wont
[08:34] <rioghal> Rprp, The only thing I can tell is to have a look at System -> Preferences -> Power Management.. other than that, I don't know.
[08:34] <mnoir> marshall: but that link should be better
[08:34] <Flannel> !java | senorJ
[08:34] <ubotu> senorJ: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[08:34] <Rprp> ok, ty
[08:34] <k31th> nolimitsoya: do you know of any real time mixing software?
[08:34] <k31th> For mixing audio tracks, some thing like traktor.
[08:34] <dushko> Is Herd 2 still being released today?
[08:34] <Flannel> dushko: #ubuntu+1
[08:34] <nolimitsoya> k31th, nope, but check out the software included in musix
[08:35] <nemo_work> madcheez1: ah. I'm relatively unfamiliar with debian's package manager.  I thought that was the utility to actually show what the package installed
[08:35] <madcheez1> nemo_work: the command is sudo apt-get install
[08:35] <senorJ> ubotu: I enabled multiverse and tried that link
[08:35] <madcheez1> nemo_work: then the program name
[08:35] <k31th> nolimitsoya: I know of mixxx and wired.
[08:35] <Flannel> senorJ: and what problems did you run into?
[08:35] <nemo_work> madcheez1: um. I know that much at least
[08:35] <nemo_work> madcheez1: I'm trying to see what the package actually installed
[08:35] <madcheez1> nemo_work: ah
[08:36] <rioghal> senorJ, if you enable a new repo, you have to do 'sudo apt-get update' so that apt can see the new package listr
[08:36] <nemo_work> thus apt-file show/list packagename
[08:36] <nemo_work> which does nada
[08:36] <Flannel> nemo_work, madcheez1, dpkg -l | grep [whatever] 
[08:36] <rioghal> nemo_work, what does dpkg -L appname do ?
[08:36] <madcheez1> nemo_work: yep
[08:36] <marshall> thanks mnoir, Flannel and stoone
[08:36] <nemo_work> theeeere we go
[08:36] <[dot] Al> Himura, Im having a bit of a problem with my wireless card, I followed this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear, but how do I set up Ubuntu to use a static ip. Im a newbie to Linux btw :)
[08:36] <nemo_work> sweet
[08:36] <nolimitsoya> how do i add a new logical partition to an existing extended one?
[08:36] <nemo_work> thanks
[08:36] <rioghal> nemo_work, nm, see what Flannel posted
[08:37] <nemo_work> guess I should uninstall this apt-file thing
[08:37] <nemo_work> since it is bloody useless
[08:37] <paulinster> Hi All,  I am having an issue with SSH. I can't get the proper return value when sending remote command
[08:37] <Flannel> nemo_work: you can't.  it's part of apt
[08:37] <senorJ> When I close and re-open firefox I still get the install plugin icon in java applets
[08:37] <madcheez1> nemo_work: pretty much
[08:37] <nemo_work> Flannel: I did apt-get install apt-file
[08:37] <nemo_work> Flannel: since apt-file didn't exist
[08:37] <[dot] Al>  Im having a bit of a problem with my wireless card, I followed this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear, but how do I set up Ubuntu to use a static ip. Im a newbie to Linux btw :)
[08:37] <Flannel> nemo_work: oh, um, nevermind. right.
[08:37] <stoone> nolimitsoya: man fdisk
[08:38] <Bluedog> anyone know a good alternative to gaim?
[08:38] <Bluedog> The contacts in the list are just so big
[08:38] <Bluedog> Or a way to change the style..
[08:38] <mnoir> paulinster: that may be tricky - i bet you are getting the rtn code of the ssh command
[08:38] <Flannel> senorJ: But you completed all of the instructions on the wiki page?
[08:38] <xamox> I have a SSH tunnel setup to my home machine doing dynamic forwarding. Is it possible to use/mount my SMB share at home on my windows MAchine at work?
[08:38] <stoone> Bluedog: gaim is the best!:)
[08:38] <jmartini> hakrzcode: no joy, its either no rendering issues and the error or no error and massive rendering artifacts. Thanks anyway though.
[08:39] <paulinster> mnoir: yup it look to be the reutnr value of ssh ..
[08:39] <nolimitsoya> stoone, i wouldnt have thought this could be done with gparted, since thats what i used to create all the current logical partitions in the first lace
[08:39] <nolimitsoya> *place
[08:39] <emss> Bluedog: Buddies/Show buddy details
[08:39] <emss> Bluedog: uncheck it
[08:39] <nemo_work> ah. nm-applet. and launching it over ssh -YC seems to show it doesn't do much
[08:39] <nemo_work> welp. back to the drawing board.
[08:39] <hakrzcode> jmartini, sorry to here that. oh well.
[08:39] <Bluedog> emss: legend :)
[08:39] <nolimitsoya> stoone, would that constitute a bug?
[08:39] <paulinster> mnoir: the commande I am trying is the following ssh servername 'exit 11';echo $?
[08:40] <senorJ> away
[08:40] <nemo_work> this musn't be an uncommon problem. surely many folks using ubuntu need to use it with wireless
[08:40] <stoone> nolimitsoya: can't tell if it is a bug without seeing it...
[08:40] <nemo_work> maybe network-admin is malfunctioning
[08:40] <[2c] orudie> hey! i'm on top now
[08:40] <mnoir> paulinster: what happens when you put the echo $? IN the quotes?
[08:40] <[dot] Al> how do you configure gnome network manager for static ips?
[08:41] <nemo_work> seemed to me the intuitive thing would be to have the network name dropdown show a list of available networks
[08:41] <selah> Well it worked. Although I ended up just changing my UID over to the one for /dev/hd5. Now my swap drive is there. Muah hah hah! I love ubuntu.
[08:41] <dwandke> Hi Everyone
[08:41] <mpoz2> How can I get GNOME's file selection dialog _not_ to focus the location bar initially but the file list?
[08:42] <mnoir> paulinster: nm - i just tried - it didn't work
[08:42] <paulinster> mnoir: what do you mean ... somehting like this ssh servername 'exit 11'; 'echo $?'
[08:42] <mnoir> paulinster: this requires hacking - it is not pretty
[08:42] <mnoir> no - i meant like ssh mewssys 'exit 11;echo $?'
[08:43] <mnoir> but it didn't work
[08:43] <stoone> [dot] Al: admin -> networking -> select interface -> properties
[08:43] <dwandke> I`ve a big Problem ... but before i start let me tell, that i'm a totaly Noob in Linux.So i have a fresh installation of Ubuntu. First of all i uses Ubuntuguide.org for some help ... second i added new reps... and then i want to install vmware-player ...
[08:43] <nemo_work> ah.
[08:43] <nemo_work> wifi-radar does the trick. gooood times
[08:43] <dwandke> i typed in ... apt-get install vmware-player ...
[08:43] <lol> hy
[08:43] <paulinster> mnoir nothing ...
[08:43] <dwandke> apt downloaded and installed it and tryed to cofigure it automaticly ...
[08:44] <madcheez1> nemo_work: therre ya go
[08:44] <dwandke> but then the Error comes ...
[08:44] <lol> alles goed iedereen
[08:44] <factorx_> I want to install ubuntu on two hard drives (one 20 GB, one 15GB) and if it's possible, I want to use both as one logical volume that mounts /. How can I do that?
[08:44] <g333k_work> hi, I'm getting this error output: perl: warning: Setting locale failed., why?
[08:44] <paulinster> mnoir: it look to be working however if I do use rsh instead of ssh ... though that rsh is a symlink to ssh ..
[08:44] <mnoir> paulinster: standby for pastebin
[08:44] <Flannel> factorx_: LVM
[08:44] <dwandke> tarting VMware services:
[08:44] <dwandke>    Virtual machine monitor                                            failed
[08:44] <dwandke>    Virtual ethernet                                                   failed
[08:44] <dwandke> Module vmnet is not loaded.  Please verify that it is loaded before
[08:44] <dwandke> running this script.
[08:44] <dwandke> invoke-rc.d: initscript vmware-player, action "start" failed.
[08:44] <dwandke> dpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten von vmware-player (--configure):
[08:44] <dwandke>  Unterprozess post-installation script gab den Fehlerwert 1 zurck
[08:44] <dwandke> Fehler traten auf beim Bearbeiten von:
[08:44] <dwandke>  vmware-player
[08:44] <Flannel> !paste | dwandke
[08:44] <dwandke> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:44] <ubotu> dwandke: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[08:45] <dwandke> Sorry for my mistake flannel
[08:45] <Dial_tone> factorx_, hardware raid card would be one way
[08:45] <Flannel> factorx_: you'll need the alternate CD, LVM is real easy.
[08:45] <daedra> woah 1044 people in here!
[08:45] <dwandke> but can someone help me with my problem?
[08:45] <g333k_work> hi, I'm getting this error output: perl: warning: Setting locale failed., why?
[08:45] <factorx_> Flannel, do I have to select "physical volume for lvm" in the ubuntu installer for both hdds?
[08:46] <Blackhold> hello
[08:46] <mnoir> paulinster: look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1205/ and comment
[08:46] <Blackhold> how can I reactivate ybin?
[08:46] <Blackhold> I've got it configured
[08:46] <madcheez1> gotta roll later all
[08:46] <Blackhold> but I reinstalled mac os x and lost the ybin in MBR
[08:46] <juano> anyone know why there is only a specific folder in my NTFS partition which i cannot view?
[08:47] <Flannel> factorx_: you need to ... um, you'll make partitions on each drive, you'll also want to make a small (couple hundred meg) partition for /boot (since it's ugly having boot on LVM), then once you have the two LVM partitions marked, and the boot one, go up to the top and configure LVM
[08:47] <Enselic`> My sound sounds distorted, but has worked without distortion before. What could cause this?
[08:47] <mnoir> paulinster: ssh seemed to pass back the remote cmd rtn code
[08:47] <dwandke> Flannel have u an ideal for my problem or someone else??? URL for error is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1206/
[08:47] <mnoir> paulinster: is this not what you wanted?
[08:48] <Flannel> factorx_: then you'll configure volume groups, put them both in the same VG, then you can put LVs (equivalnt to partitions) ontop of that LG
[08:48] <paulinster> mnoir: yeah that is what I want .. but in my case this is not the value that I get return ..
[08:48] <stoone> Enselic`: play with various volume settings
[08:48] <daedra> oh fazzocks can anyone manage to install cmus via apt-get?!
[08:48] <mnoir> paulinster: odd...
[08:48] <daedra> !cmus
[08:48] <ubotu> cmus: Lightweight ncurses audio player. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.3-2 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 428 kB
[08:49] <mnoir> paulinster: remote machine is a unix?
[08:49] <juano> anyone know why there is only one specific folder in my NTFS partition which i cannot view? other folders work fine for read and write...
[08:49] <daedra> also where is 'component universe'
[08:49] <Flannel> !universe | daedra
[08:49] <ubotu> daedra: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:49] <daedra> !EasySource
[08:49] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:50] <daedra> riiiiight
[08:50] <paulinster> mnoir: yup .. both are ubuntu  (one kubuntu and the other ubuntu server)
[08:50] <roler> Is it a bad idea to use kernel 2.6.20 package from Feisty in Edgy?
[08:50] <paulinster> mnoir: here the paste
[08:50] <paulinster> lpaulin@paulinster:~$ ssh -p 22022 gf.dyndns.ws 'exit 11'; echo $?
[08:50] <paulinster> 0
[08:50] <paulinster> lpaulin@paulinster:~$
[08:50] <mnoir> paulinster: same as me...
[08:51] <Peace_islam> Pean be upon all of u
[08:51] <Enselic`> stoone: Thanks! It was PCM volume which was too high, I just lowered it and the distortion got away. I thought this would be really complicated :p
[08:51] <inc|freaky> hi all. in which repository can i find squirrelmail 1.4.9a? its not in the standard repos but still 1.4.8 but 1.4.9a fixes some bugs so there should be a recent version of it somewhere?
[08:51] <Enverex> Enselic`, AC'97 audio I assume?
[08:51] <Enselic`> Enverex: yep :D
[08:52] <paulinster> mnoir: I have tried from my kubuntu to other system like RH and I got the same..
[08:52] <mnoir> paulinster: ??? - 6.06 or 6.10
[08:52] <bokey> inc|freaky, can you post your repo in the paste bin ?
[08:52] <stoone> Enselic`: it was a common problem.:)
[08:52] <paulinster> mnoir: 6.06 for kubuntu
[08:53] <inc|freaky> bobbyd what pastebin?
[08:53] <bokey> !pastebin | inc|freaky
[08:53] <ubotu> inc|freaky: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:53] <simpzon> I am sorry, this is probably the most asked Q from idiots like me. How on earth do I install JAVA on Ubuntu 6.10?
[08:53] <Flannel> !java | simpzon
[08:53] <ubotu> simpzon: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[08:53] <bokey> !java | simpzon
[08:53] <simpzon> perfect
[08:54] <simpzon> super
[08:54] <paulinster> mnoir: ssh is version 4.2p1-7ubuntu3.1
[08:54] <flossgeek> just a quick one anyone know where i change the ports on xchat, i want to change it too 8001
[08:54] <Kristian> Hi guys, need help for installing X-Plane :P
[08:54] <rioghal> I have onboard graphics (AMD Sempron 2800+), no other videa card, but glxinfo | grep render says yes. Any idea why it says yes?
[08:54] <inc|freaky> bokey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1208/
[08:54] <mnoir> paulinster: i just tried from 6.10 to 6.10 and 6.10 to 6.06 and 6.06 to 6.10 - all work for me.  i do not believe this could be a gnome/kde issue so i have not tried all those permutations - you have a puzzle
[08:54] <Toph> ubotu, perhaps you can give me some advice, as well as others,. i posed this question before and was directed to check the ~/ .sessions-errors file, which i couldn't locate. Anyways, when my computer is working, I can hear the HD pretty well steady. I'm using the System>Administration>System Monitor program and mt CPU usage is almost always above 50%. In any case, eventually, i can't load any programs, almost like i have no memory  resourc
[08:54] <Toph> es,,, The program attempts to load and times out. Any idea what could be happening?
[08:54] <Bluedog> Just got mp3s going on ubuntu
[08:55] <simpzon> The multiverse/universe/free-thing, is that when I execute the Updater/package-manager, I should find that?
[08:55] <Bluedog> its far too quiet with vol on max, anyway to change it?
[08:55] <Kristian> How do you run a binary file ? :S
[08:55] <quiet> it's quiet.... tooo quiet.
[08:55] <Kristian> lol
[08:55] <quiet> Kristian, ./<filename>
[08:55] <mnoir> paulinster: just for fun, what happens when you ssh to localhost to do it?
[08:55] <paulinster> mnoir: I have ask a friend to give a try who is on kubuntu 6.10 and he got the same issue
[08:55] <Flannel> simpzon: there are instructions on that page (well, it's a link to instructions) on how to enable multiverse
[08:55] <quiet> make sure it's executable...    chmod +x <filename>
[08:55] <Kristian> Ok
[08:56] <mnoir> paulinster: maybe it IS a kde issue... try asking in #ubuntu-kde?
[08:56] <Kristian> Quiet -> It says "Error whjile loading shared libraries: libopenal.os.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" What do i do ?
[08:56] <factorx_> Flannel, is XFS not LVM-capable or something? I tried to use XFS inside the logical volume and got an error message. If I select ext3, this error does not appear.
[08:57] <quiet> Kristian, what is the binary file?
[08:57] <Flannel> mnoir, paulinster, that'd be #kubuntu, not #ubuntu-kde
[08:57] <Kristian> Its an installer for X-Plane
[08:57] <[dot] Al> setting a static ip with the default ubuntu net manager still isnt working
[08:57] <mnoir> Flannel: :)
[08:57] <Kristian> quiet - i can link you if you want .. ?
[08:57] <paulinster> mnoir: I got the same issue if I ssh to localhost
[08:57] <quiet> Kristian, sure... did you check to see if it's in synaptic?
[08:57] <Flannel> factorx_: um, not that I'm aware of, but I'm no LVM guru.
[08:58] <rioghal> Kristian, what is the name of the app/package?
[08:58] <factorx_> ok, thank you anyway
[08:58] <paulinster> flanner, mnoir: thanks I'll ask #kubuntu to find out...
[08:58] <Flannel> factorx_: I'd google it, and see what the internet thinks ;)
[08:58] <mnoir> paulinster: i am stumped - can i pm you to give you my email to tell me when you find the answer?
[08:58] <Kristian> rioghal -> the package is called X-Plane-DVD-Install
[08:59] <quiet> Kristian, there's no extension?
[08:59] <stoone> Kristian: sudo apt-get install libopenal0a
[08:59] <paulinster> mnoir ... sure
[08:59] <Kristian> ok, a sec.
[08:59] <rioghal> Kristian, I don't see it in the repos
[08:59] <rioghal> Kristian, which means, you have to do dependency resolving manually
[08:59] <nemo_work> Package ogg123 is not available, but is referred to by another package. <- ? any advice on this front ?
[08:59] <Kristian> rioghal - ok stoone - downloading :) Thanks :)
[08:59] <[dot] Al> setting a static ip with the default ubuntu net manager still isnt working, the network manager gnome still cant connect to my wifi
[09:00] <gkjones> the #ubuntu-kde is actually called #kbuntu and its not frequented much
[09:00] <rioghal> Kristian,  libopenal.os.0 is one of the deps you have to install manually.. there could be other deps as well.
[09:00] <dougsko> whats the name of that program you use to make a deb out of source code?
[09:00] <nemo_work> [dot] Al: heh. you're fiddling with wifi too eh.  I'm hoping this wifi-radio program will do the trick
[09:00] <nemo_work> just as soon as I can remember what the !@#$ WPA key is
[09:00] <Kristian> It works :) I get an installer now :) Thanks a lot :D :D
[09:00] <stoone> Kristian: you can check dynamic linking by 'ldd <programname>'
[09:01] <[dot] Al> I used this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear to set it up, but it just doesnt use a static ip
[09:01] <rioghal> dougsko,  http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html
[09:01] <hakrzcode> dougsko: check out checkinstall.
[09:01] <bokey> Kristian, hey everything good ?
[09:01] <dougsko> checkinstall! thats what i was trying to think of. Thanks!
[09:01] <rioghal> !checkinstall
[09:01] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[09:01] <bokey> Kristian, :{P
[09:01] <Enselic`> dougsko: http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT8047723203.html
[09:01] <hakrzcode> dougsko: np. I find it quite useful.
[09:01] <Enselic`> dougsko: seems like a nice introductin
[09:02] <dougsko> cool thanks, Enselic`
[09:02] <Kristian> bokey -> Im affraid not :( stoone -> What ? :O
[09:02] <apollo2011> Anyone know of any update problems with Ubuntu? I did an update yesterday and when I rebooted, X doesn't start, giving the classic No monitor forund error. I switched back to the NV driver from the nVidia proprietary one but that didn't help.
[09:02] <Enselic`> dougsko: np, took me 20 secs with google :p
[09:02] <recon> I'm trying to apt-get install tremulous-data, but the file download keeps timing out. Any advice?
[09:02] <nemo_work> [dot] Al: aye. that network-manager-gnome didn't do much for me
[09:02] <hakrzcode> haha... I like the warning of "DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!"
[09:03] <stoone> Kristian: it will display dynamic library linkings and you can check it all exists or not.
[09:03] <[dot] Al> I also set up a static ip in the default network manager
[09:03] <[dot] Al> got any ideas?
[09:03] <rioghal> hakrzcode, That warning is kinda like.. "well, duh!"
[09:03] <Kristian> stoone -> oh, thanks :)
[09:03] <Peace_islam> is ubuntu better than xp
[09:03] <lupine_85> yes
[09:03] <mnoir> hakrzcode: good advice for any program that is major messing with system stuff
[09:03] <recon> Peace_islam: yes, yes, and YES!
[09:03] <[bma] > Peace_islam, is 1<2?
[09:03] <lupine_85> in the same way an adult is better than a child
[09:03] <Peace_islam> and osx?
[09:03] <rioghal> Peace_islam, Of course you're gonna get all yes's in this channel
[09:04] <Kristian> stoone -> But the program seems to run, bit i get a new error now "We were unable to open a zip file. It may be missing or damaged"
[09:04] <hakrzcode> Peace_islam, it depends upon the side of the fence you are standing.
[09:04] <recon> Peace_islam: but that's just an opinion.
[09:04] <Enselic`> Peace_islam: Ubuntu is nice, try it
[09:04] <Enselic`> Peace_islam: you've got nothing to loose expect time
[09:04] <daedra> 'Package cmus has no installation candidate' ?!
[09:04] <recon> Peace_islam: if you don't want to install it, try a LiveCD.
[09:04] <Enselic`> Peace_islam: I've succesfully migrated from Win to Ubuntu
[09:04] <theturtlemoves> is my .bash_profile sourced by dash in edgy?
[09:04] <Enselic`> Peace_islam: I'm a programmer though
[09:04] <daedra> !cmus
[09:04] <stoone> Kristian: so it's not a library missing thing, maybe the program bugous.
[09:04] <ubotu> cmus: Lightweight ncurses audio player. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.3-2 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 428 kB
[09:04] <apollo2011> Peace_islam: Ubuntu is free so there isn't much reason you shouldn't try it, especially since the Live version requires no installation or changes to your system
[09:04] <juano> Peace_islam: i can do everything i did on xp and more, even gaming
[09:05] <Enselic`> Peace_islam: Oh yeah, time and games it what you risk
[09:05] <Peace_islam> so wat is this LIVE version . thx
[09:05] <hakrzcode> Peace_Islam: it is basically this. Do not walk into a room of linux geeks, and ask if windows is better, or walk into a room of OSx geeks, and ask about windows or linux.
[09:05] <bokey> !linux
[09:05] <ubotu> linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[09:05] <Kristian> stoone -> ok, just another thing, i keep having troubles with my graphics driver, so i downloaded the official one from nvidia.com - but i need to execute in, without GUI open, how do i start in "black" ? :S
[09:05] <bokey> !ubuntu
[09:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[09:05] <daedra> Enselic`: you are discussing off-topic information. Move to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:05] <[dot] Al> is dns search path in network settings the same as access point?
[09:05] <bokey> get the difference ?????
[09:05] <Enselic`> daedra: ok sorry
[09:06] <BigMac> Hi everyone. I have used ubuntu before on my old desktop and recently it died so I took the oppurtunity to buy a new Dell Innspiron 1501.
[09:06] <BigMac>  I went to try out Ubuntu 6.06 on this using the live cd to make sure it works and was greeted with the error listed in the title whenever I select anything on the menu, then the screen goes black and disk activity haults. I have tried entering safe graphics mode but this did not help either.
[09:06] <BigMac>  I tried getting help and was able to narrow it down to that it may be a problem with my graphics card (ATI RADEON Xpress1150 with 256mb) because supposedly ATI support in Ubuntu is problematic.
[09:06] <Bluedog> hmmm
[09:06] <BigMac> AM I out of luck or is there anything I could try to get ubuntu working because I love Ubuntu on my desktop and would hope I can get it running again on here.
[09:06] <MarkDetroit> I'm having trouble getting Edgy to use my ipw2200 wireless card.  Can anyone gimme a hand?  The guides in the Ubuntu forums and at ubuntuguides.org don't seem to be working
[09:06] <roler> how do I remove the ubuntu boot logo so I can see why my kernel is not booting?
[09:06] <mnoir> theturtlemoves: try putting something like 'export HEREIAM=YES' into .bash_profile.  then run dash and check to see if it is set
[09:06] <recon> I'm trying to apt-get install tremulous-data, but the file download keeps timing out. Any advice?
[09:06] <Bluedog> Hey: Anyone know, I have a mouse with 2 side buttons... how can I enable this in linux?
[09:07] <Flannel> roler: edit the grub command, remove the quiet and splash
[09:07] <cyber_friend> i cant delete folder folder from my desktop.help
[09:07] <mnoir> theturtlemoves: or read the doc.  whichever is easier....
[09:07] <Flannel> !mouse | Bluedog
[09:07] <ubotu> Bluedog: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[09:07] <Kristian> How do i start in "terminal" mode ? :S
[09:07] <Enselic`> BigMac: It's a quite new desktop?
[09:07] <Bluedog> thanks :)
[09:07] <hakrzcode> roler, you can manually edit the command line for grub, and remove splash, and silent.
[09:07] <theturtlemoves> mnoir...thanks
[09:07] <stoone> Kristian: do it in tty?, you can switch by CTRL+ALT+1
[09:07] <Kristian> stoone -> tty ?
[09:07] <mnoir> theturtlemoves: btw i think the answer is yes
[09:07] <hakrzcode> hmm, flannel is a much faster typist
[09:07] <BigMac> Enselic`: Those are my laptop specs
[09:07] <Enselic`> Kristian: tty = console
[09:07] <roler> thanks theturtlemoves and Flannel
[09:07] <cyber_friend> @
[09:08] <Enselic`> Kristian: Press Ctrl + Alt + 7 when you're done
[09:08] <rioghal> roler, you can remove the word "Splash" from the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst and you'll have a text boot up instead of a graphic.
[09:08] <stoone> Kristian: and ? wildcard stands for one character.:)
[09:08] <alecjw> hi. when i try to export an image as a png, it asks me for the amount of compression: 0-9. is this lossy or lossless?
[09:08] <theturtlemoves> mnoir...apparently not. it does source ~/.profile
[09:08] <Kristian> stoone -> will try, a sec.
[09:08] <mnoir> theturtlemoves: nm - i think the answer is no
[09:08] <topyli> how do i stream mp3 over the internet? i'd love to use mpd but it only streams ogg, and there is no client for my phone that will play streaming ogg
[09:08] <MarkDetroit> I'm having trouble getting Edgy to use my ipw2200 wireless card.  Can anyone gimme a hand?  The guides in the Ubuntu forums and at ubuntuguides.org don't seem to be working.  I'm using the wpa_supplican.conf method.
[09:08] <BigMac> ANyone know what to do because my thread on the forum has been overlooked
[09:08] <mnoir> theturtlemoves: you beat me to it :)
[09:08] <juano> is there anyway to make Nvidia splash start screen remain for more seconds?
[09:08] <BigMac> and has zero replies
[09:08] <alecjw> BigMac: bump it
[09:08] <Kristian> stoone -> i tried to write tty1 in the consile "command not found" ..
[09:09] <theturtlemoves> mnoir...lol. i need to be told to RTFM sometimes, i get lazy
[09:09] <hakrzcode> MarkDetroit: how are you having troubles? that is the most invisible configured wireless out there.
[09:09] <alecjw> ie post a reply saing "bump"
[09:09] <BigMac> alecjw: Is that allowed on these forums?
[09:09] <Enselic`> BigMac: I'd boot it into terminal mode and intsall drivers from there
[09:09] <alecjw> yep
[09:09] <stoone> Kristian: it isn't in your $PATH i think, start it with ./
[09:09] <mnoir> theturtlemoves: that is specifically prohibited here (saying it) cuz it might upset folks
[09:09] <mnoir> :)
[09:09] <BigMac> How do I go about that Enselic`?
[09:09] <Enselic`> BigMac: sure, if you don't write any insult like this boards sucks or so
[09:09] <Kristian> stoone -> so sudo ./tty1 ?
[09:10] <stoone> Kristian: and not write tty1 but the command you want to execute
[09:10] <alecjw> when i try to export an image as a png, it asks me for the amount of compression: 0-9. is this lossy or lossless?
[09:10] <juano> is there anyway to make Nvidia splash start screen remain for more seconds?
[09:10] <BigMac> I can't get past the menu screen
[09:10] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode , I get the card showing up in System>Admin>Networking, but I get nothing in the system try showing the device (eth1) and I get no connectivity on it.
[09:10] <Enselic`> BigMac: I've never had to install graphics drivers manually, but just google for a tut, and then do it but through the terimal
[09:10] <Enselic`> BigMac: when it boot, you should be able to press some key
[09:10] <Kristian> stoone -> i want to close the GUI (gnome, nautilus or whatever), and install nvidia drivers ;)
[09:10] <BigMac> Enselic`: I haven't got ubuntu installed yet so I don't think I can acsess the terminal
[09:11] <BigMac> access
[09:11] <Enselic`> BigMac: When it boots, isn't there a "press ESC to enter grub menu" or something?
[09:11] <Enselic`> BigMac: even from a Live CD, one should be able to use terminal
[09:11] <hakrzcode> MarkDetroit. did you turn off the signal by mistake? check the output of "iwconfig eth0", paste to pastebin, and get back to me. I use this card, and have never ever had problems of any kind.
[09:11] <mnoir> alecjw: PNG's compression is fully lossless according to their site - go there and read
[09:11] <jano_> hi... I just installed flash on my xubuntu edgy (firefox plugin) and it's crashing wha ever since
[09:11] <Enselic`> BigMac: note that that's just my opninion, but I'd be suprised if it wasn't possible
[09:11] <bokey> Kristian, press CTRL+ALT+F1 and then in the terminal do a login. then sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop. restart x.
[09:11] <stoone> Kristian: i feel get a bit lost...
[09:12] <liamg> I am having a little problem with my resolution.  Could I ask someone about it - I have drawn a blank on the forums and through google
[09:12] <alecjw> mnoir: i thought so. but if it's lossless, why wouldn't you want to compress it?
[09:12] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode ,the wireless card is at eth1    Should I do iwconfig eth1?
[09:12] <hakrzcode> MarkDetroit: sorry "iwconfig eth1"
[09:12] <BigMac> Ok I will try to figure it out but I think I am going to get lost
[09:12] <recon> Would anybody give advice for downloading a large file that keeps timing out/freezing? (specifically apt-get install tremulous-data)
[09:12] <Kristian> bokey - thanks :)
[09:12] <Enselic`> BigMac: Get yourself a terminal IRC channel ;)
[09:12] <dtg> can anybody help me why it doesn't get an IP automatically with DHCP?
[09:12] <Dylanp> hi, does someone know how ti fix this: /usr/bin/fakeroot: 152: make-jpkg: not found ?
[09:12] <mnoir> alecjw: some compression methods can trade time for size without changing the uncompressed result
[09:12] <bokey> Kristian, any time for you babe. :P
[09:13] <crot> recon: apt-get install shoud resume
[09:13] <juano> dtg: how are you configuring DHCP?
[09:13] <mnoir> alecjw: i am not an expert on this....
[09:13] <BigMac> Enselic: I can open an irc channel in the terminal?
[09:13] <Kristian> bokey - lol :D
[09:13] <Dylanp> hi, does someone know how ti fix this: /usr/bin/fakeroot: 152: make-jpkg: not found ?
[09:13] <bokey> Kristian, hehe.. :)
[09:13] <frojnd> hello there How can I insert in chart with spreadsheet some database like: age from-to and percent of this and how many of them are male and female in some year??
[09:13] <alecjw> mnoir: ah. so it's because it's slow to decompress a compession level 9 png on a slow system? now i see. thanks
[09:13] <kristian_> hey can anyone tell me how to add "universe source list in your sources.list" ?
[09:13] <hakrzcode> dtg: if you are using a wireless ap, I find that alot of times, if the ap is running for an extended period of time, it will fluff up. remove power and reboot ap.
[09:13] <dtg> wired
[09:13] <juano> dtg: if you are on the client, type sudo dhclient ethX (where ethX is the device waiting for an IP address)
[09:13] <dtg> tried already
[09:14] <nemo_work> frojnd: you using open office?
[09:14] <Kristian> bokey - Hmm, this nvidia driver seems to fail compiling some kind of kernel
[09:14] <mnoir> alecjw: funny enough, most of the time element is in the compression not the decomp...
[09:14] <BigMac> Enselic`: And I don't know if ubuntu will work right off the bat with this wireless card
[09:14] <Enselic`> dtg: Is "automatically get IP" checked in settings?
[09:14] <bokey> Kristian, ALT+F2 and then type gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:14] <jano_> hi... I just installed flash on my xubuntu edgy (firefox plugin) and it's crashing when I open pages with flash ever since... how can I fix it??
[09:14] <nemo_work> frojnd: personally I despise open office charting, gnumeric is much better :)
[09:14] <dtg> Enselic, it is
[09:14] <theturtlemoves> mnoir...do you have any idea what the simplest way to add a directory to my path is?
[09:14] <stoone> kristian_: System->admin->software sources
[09:14] <dtg> Juano, what does typing that do?
[09:14] <frojnd> nemo_work: open office yes..
[09:14] <Enselic`> dtg: try dhclient eth0
[09:14] <bokey> !nvidia | Kristian
[09:14] <ubotu> Kristian: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:14] <Enselic`> dtg:     "sudo dhclient eth0"
[09:14] <nemo_work> frojnd: probably should be asking in #openoffice.org or somesuch
[09:14] <Dylanp> hi, does someone know how ti fix this: /usr/bin/fakeroot: 152: make-jpkg: not found ?
[09:14] <juano> dtg: that configures your device to listen and obtain an IP address form a DHCP server
[09:15] <mnoir> theturtlemoves: look in your ....rc or profilefor the PATH variable and edit that line
[09:15] <nemo_work> frojnd: but I'd just use gnumeric. it has much better charting :)
[09:15] <dtg> it will connect if I manually go to a network manager and click connect, or if I go to network manager and deactivate/activate the device, but it won't do it automatically when starting the computer
[09:15] <Enselic`> Dylanp: i'd try to install jpgk packages
[09:15] <Dylanp> oke, ty
[09:15] <recon> while I'm at it, I'm trying to write a script which will keep doing a certain command until it succeds. Assuming (for apt-get) that it succeds will output 1 as a return code, how could I put the return code of apt-get to a variable?
[09:15] <Enselic`> Dylanp: sudo apt-cache search jpgk
[09:15] <Dylanp> Enselic`, Cant find the package jpgk
[09:15] <mnoir> theturtlemoves: you might want to spend some time on which files get sourced when to make the change in the right place
[09:15] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode , patebin doesn't seem to be working
[09:15] <Dylanp> dylan@dylan-desktop:~$ sudo apt-cache search jpgk
[09:15] <Dylanp> dylan@dylan-desktop:~$
[09:16] <Kristian> bokey honey :P "Gtk-WARNING **: Cannot open display
[09:16] <juano> dtg: you have to configure the device for DHCP, try running ifconfig and check if the device is obtaining via DHCP an IP
[09:16] <PwndMopar> Hello
[09:16] <bokey> Kristian, are you using gnome ?
[09:16] <Kristian> bokey - console atm :P
[09:16] <dtg> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1212/
[09:16] <Enselic`> Dylanp: hmm, then I'd try to google for clues
[09:16] <bokey> Kristian, geez.. told me before
[09:16] <bokey> Kristian, :)
[09:16] <hakrzcode> MarkDetroit: hmmm, let me check.
[09:16] <theturtlemoves> mnoir: that's the bit i'm having trouble with
[09:16] <Kristian> bokey - you just gave me the cmd to close gdm :D
[09:16] <bokey> Kristian, sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:16] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode , nm, here it is...  http://pastebin.com/857073
[09:16] <bokey> Kristian, well.. :O
[09:17] <mnoir> theturtlemoves: you in bash or dash?
[09:17] <kristian_> thx for the help
[09:17] <PwndMopar> Can someone help me install something from a tar.gz package, please?
[09:17] <hakrzcode> Dylanp: check this out: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/142
[09:17] <Dylanp> oke, ty
[09:17] <Kristian> bokey - I'm in ! :)
[09:17] <Enselic`> PwndMopar: extract package, go to dir, type ./configure, then make, then sudo make install
[09:17] <juano> PwndMopar: 1) tar -xvf package.tar.gz
[09:17] <bokey> Kristian, ok. now press ESC
[09:17] <Dylanp> hakrzcode, cant find the package java-package
[09:17] <un_operateur> recon, you use the return values of commands to know if they have succeeded or not .. example -- aptitude install -f && echo "yes, i succeeded"   vs  aptitude install -f || echo "oops, i failed $?"
[09:17] <Dylanp> :<
[09:17] <juano> PwndMopar: 2) enter dir, search for configure, run ./configure
[09:17] <Kristian> bokey - it it supposed to say "beep" ? :P
[09:17] <juano> PwndMopar: 3) type make
[09:17] <bokey> Kristian, then press ":" (after pressing ESC). yeah it's suppose to beeep
[09:18] <PwndMopar> It's ok to do all this from the desktop, correct?
[09:18] <theturtlemoves> mnoir: dash, i think. I use gnome-terminal, which seems to use /bin/sh, which is linked to dash in edgy
[09:18] <bokey> Kristian, everything beeps these days babe.
[09:18] <juano> PwndMopar: 4) type make install (sometimes necesary)
[09:18] <recon> !||
[09:18] <Kristian> bokey - LOL :P Then what ?
[09:18] <Enselic`> PwndMopar: extract thourhg desktop
[09:18] <PwndMopar> Alright
[09:18] <PwndMopar> Thanks guys :D
[09:18] <juano> PwndMopar: this would be through a terminal
[09:18] <bokey> Kristian, yeah press ESC and then the key "i".
[09:18] <Enselic`> PwndMopar: compiling needs to be done from Terminal
[09:18] <PwndMopar> I know :] 
[09:18] <mnoir> then you need to alter .profile according to the last thing we were looking at - wait a sec
[09:18] <Peace_islam> Strokeit is good software.
[09:18] <Enselic`> PwndMopar: (well no, not _needs to_, but its the easiest
[09:18] <Kristian> bokey - ok - it says INSERT
[09:18] <hakrzcode> MarkDetroit: link is not loading for me. Please use: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[09:18] <bokey> Kristian, yup.
[09:18] <PwndMopar> Ah, ok ;] 
[09:19] <recon> un_operateur: where the || operator does...?
[09:19] <dtg> did you guys look at my pastebin, Enselic, juano?
[09:19] <liamg> hakrzcode: Could you help? You seem to know what you are talking about - my resolution resets if I /etc/init.d/gdm stop and then start,  but it resets to a different resolution everytime it restarts
[09:19] <Kristian> bokey - i guess i have to add a repository ? :D
[09:19] <hakrzcode> Dylanp: Did you read the article that I sent?
[09:19] <juano> PwndMopar: follow my instructions before and itll work fine
[09:19] <bokey> Kristian, now go to the end of each line and type multiverse
[09:19] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode , ok, one sec
[09:19] <aloon> hello all
[09:19] <juano> dtg: give url again pls
[09:19] <Kristian> bokey - just multiverse ?
[09:19] <jano_> hi... I just installed flash on my xubuntu edgy (firefox plugin) and it's crashing when I open pages with flash ever since... how can I fix it??
[09:19] <mnoir> theturtlemoves: i am in a 6.10 sys and i am running bash??
[09:19] <Enselic`> PwndMopar: Tell me if you encounter problems, I'm in a helper mode today (even stupid questions is ok :p)
[09:19] <un_operateur> recon, && is logical AND .. || is the logical OR
[09:19] <bokey> Kristian, you want to add repositories ?
[09:19] <Dylanp> hakrzcode, yes.
[09:19] <juano> dtg:  got it, nevermind
[09:20] <Kristian> bokey - no no, just asking ;D I've written "multiverse"
[09:20] <mnoir> theturtlemoves: what does > env|grep SHELL tell you?
[09:20] <bokey> Kristian, or everything from multiverse ?
[09:20] <hakrzcode> liamg: You will need to check the /var/log/Xorg.0.log. It is long, but look at the part where it is checking resolutions, and sometimes it is useful to see what happened. Further info, I do not know.
[09:20] <Kristian> bokey - huh ? :S
[09:20] <juano> dtg: is your DHCP server up and running?
[09:20] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode , http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1215/
[09:20] <bokey> Kristian, ok it should be like this -> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse
[09:20] <shwag> what is the file that I can put commands in to run at startup ?
[09:20] <liamg> hakrzcode: Thank you.  Much appreciated
[09:20] <theturtlemoves> mnoir: huh...it says bash. why isn't my .bash_profile being sourced?
[09:20] <bokey> Kristian, babe. :)
[09:20] <lupine_85> anybody got experience with transcode?
[09:21] <Enselic`> dtg: Write our names, that makes us see what you write
[09:21] <PwndMopar> Do bins work the same way?
[09:21] <Enselic`> dtg: Do you use XChat?
[09:21] <mnoir> theturtlemoves: dunno
[09:21] <bokey> Kristian, all my repo are listed here -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1211/
[09:21] <rioghal> shwag, when gnome starts up?
[09:21] <aloon> I have a troubling problem... I just bought a sweet ASUS 3.4 ghz pentium 4 laptop, after installing Edgy I discovered that it heats up to close to 80 dgrees within 20 minutes of light use, lm-sensors doesnt seem to help, has anyone here had similar overheating issues with ubuntu and laptops?
[09:21] <Enselic`> dtg: anyway, just write Ens    and press <TAB> to get my name
[09:21] <Kristian> bokey- ok, babe ;D Should i add 'em all ? :O
[09:21] <un_operateur> recon, if you know bash, you can also use the if .. else construct like this -- if [[ `command` ] ] ; then success_command; else failure_command; fi
[09:21] <bokey> Kristian, you there babe ?
[09:21] <Enselic`> dtg: that highlights sentences
[09:21] <Kristian> bokey - yes :P
[09:22] <bokey> Kristian, yeah honey if you want everything from multiverse then do like this -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1211/
[09:22] <Kristian> bokey - i've added the multiverse thingie
[09:22] <aloon> I installed XP as a test and it didnt overheat and get sluggish like edgy does
[09:22] <bokey> Kristian, no problem hon.
[09:22] <Kristian> bokey - what's the actual function of this ? :P
[09:22] <hakrzcode> MarkDetroit: it looks fine to me. See if anything comes up with "iwlist eth1 scan". I am not sure if I want to see the output of that, but if it lists anything then attempt to set the ap address with iwconfig." check man iwconfig, for details.
[09:22] <Enselic`> dtg: Oops, I'm stupid, you DID wrote our names. The names needs to be first though appearently
[09:22] <bokey> Kristian, if all the lines have multiverse in them, press "ESC" again. and then type ":wq".
[09:22] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode , ok, I'll try that
[09:22] <recon> un_operateur: but I was thinking more along the lines of -- until echo $pass == 0; do apt-get install foo; done
[09:22] <bokey> Kristian, it'll pull all the stuff from multiverse section of the repo.
[09:22] <PwndMopar> How would I do an rpm bin?
[09:23] <rioghal> shwag, To start a program when gnome starts up: System -> Preferences -> Sessions and go to the Startup Programs tab
[09:23] <juano> dtg: if your DHCP server is an edgy, you can type sudo dhcp3d eth0 (where eth0 is your listening device for DHCP, it could be eth1, depends on the device you want to listen for clients) )
[09:23] <crot> fancy a shag, love?6
[09:23] <Kristian> bokey - ehm, a sec.
[09:23] <Bluedog> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntellimouseMousemanBackForwardButtons
[09:23] <Bluedog> is this outdated?
[09:23] <Enselic`> PwndMopar: what packages are you compiling?
[09:23] <Bluedog> just followed it but no joy
[09:23] <aloon> I dispise going to windows with this laptop  wah wah
[09:23] <rioghal> PwndMopar, You don't use rpm's in Ubuntu, Ubuntu is .deb based.
[09:23] <mnoir> theturtlemoves: i think this needs sorting out - i hesitate to tell you where to change yer path w/o knowing exactly what is going on....
[09:23] <bokey> Kristian, honey you gotta do it quick because it's all work and no play. :(
[09:23] <PwndMopar> I'm trying to instal the Java developement kit.
[09:23] <dtg> heh
[09:23] <Enselic`> PwndMopar: isn't there executable installers for that?
[09:23] <dtg> yes, edgy
[09:23] <Kristian> bokey - lol, just one thingie - do i have to copy all the text from the link you send' ?
[09:24] <hakrzcode> MarkDetroit: np. Sometimes it is signal strength from ap, or sometimes when there is alot of ap, then sometimes it interferes with each other.
[09:24] <PwndMopar> Enselic`, for windows?
[09:24] <juano> dtg: type sudo dhcp3d eth0
[09:24] <PwndMopar> :/
[09:24] <Enselic`> PwndMopar: for Linux aswell
[09:24] <PwndMopar> I didn't think you could use .exes for linux :/
[09:24] <theturtlemoves> mnoir: i have no prblems breaking stuff. I'm just really confused
[09:24] <juano> dtg: on your server
[09:24] <Enselic`> PwndMopar: I installed throgh executable
[09:24] <bokey> Kristian, if you want the stuff from those repositories, yes. my repo is pretty good and it should have everything you ever need.
[09:24] <bokey> Kristian, :) honey!
[09:24] <Enselic`> PwndMopar: JRE, but JDK should be there aswell...
[09:24] <PwndMopar> =O
[09:24] <PwndMopar> I'll look :/
[09:24] <rioghal> PwndMopar, It's a bad idea to use rpm's in Ubuntu as well.
[09:24] <dtg> juano: on my server?
[09:24] <un_operateur> recon, sure, you can work from these examples here - http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-7.html
[09:24] <PwndMopar> Ok :P
[09:24] <ZarathustraDK> Anyone got an easy way to enable sound on a box when it was made from a commandline-install?
[09:24] <theturtlemoves> mnoir: i think i'll start a thread in the forum
[09:24] <PwndMopar> I have no idea, so :] 
[09:24] <Kristian> bokey, ok :P I'll just write them over, it'll take a minute or two :P
[09:25] <dtg> juano: what do you mean
[09:25] <juano> dtg: this is if you have eth0 for DHCP device, else put in ethX where X is the device for listening, yes thats on your server
[09:25] <DrAk0> anyone is able to use muse with ubuntu????
[09:25] <Enselic`> ZarathustraDK: Install sound drivers
[09:25] <Enselic`> DrAk0: Mouse? yes
[09:25] <dtg> juano: command not found
[09:25] <bokey> Kristian, if you can't copy then use "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart" and then follow as it says on "http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1211/"
[09:25] <juano> dtg: where is your DHCP server?
[09:25] <mnoir> theturtlemoves: me too but the light is fading up.  type less /etc/passwd |grep <yerusername>  -- this will tell you what shell you are using
[09:25] <DrAk0> muse, the streaming program.
[09:25] <shack> how can I chroot ssh user to their homedirs?
[09:25] <recon> un_operateur: would this work?
[09:25] <recon> while [ echo $FOO ] ; do
[09:25] <recon>         apt-get install tremulous-data && $FOO=true
[09:25] <recon> done
[09:25] <bokey> Kristian, just be sure to replace all "dapper" with your ubuntu version.
[09:25] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode , This ap works amazingly with WIndows and with Dapper.  It is also right next to me.  If you can, check my paste bin output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1216/
[09:25] <juano> dtg: sorry, sudo dhcpd3 eth0
[09:26] <Enselic`> DrAk0: ye
[09:26] <ZarathustraDK> Enselic: how? Sound always comes installed with ubuntu :)
[09:26] <PwndMopar> They have a self-extracting bin and an RPM bin.
[09:26] <Kristian> bokey - ok, honey ;D I use Dapper indeed :D
[09:26] <PwndMopar> No .exe though
[09:26] <juano> dtg: thats a d before the 3
[09:26] <hakrzcode> Dylanp: Still there? sorry for not getting back. make sure you installed java-package: sudo apt-get install java-package
[09:26] <theturtlemoves> mnoir: bash, apparently
[09:26] <Enselic`> ZarathustraDK: never done it, but Its the same as any driver I guess
[09:26] <bokey> Kristian, cool. !! eyey... honey we share same version. we should share same <beep> as well. ;)
[09:26] <un_operateur> recon, errm, logically that would keep you going in an endless loop if apt-get succeeds -- you need until there
[09:26] <juano> dtg: are you on the client or on the server now?>
[09:26] <Enselic`> ZarathustraDK: I'd google for it
[09:26] <mnoir> theturtlemoves: !!!???
[09:26] <Dylanp> hakrzcode, it syas 'Cant find the package java-package'
[09:26] <Dylanp> :(
[09:26] <Kristian> bokey, indeed baby :D
[09:26] <DrAk0> Enselic`,  ALSA lib seq_hw.c:457:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory -- Could not open ALSA sequencer: No such file or directory
[09:26] <recon> un_operateur: so, change while to until, and it'll work?
[09:26] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode , my AP is Cell 1
[09:26] <theturtlemoves> mnoir: I dunno, my head hurts
[09:27] <bokey> Kristian, baby.. where do you live ? a/s/l ?
[09:27] <aloon> anyone here on an asus laptop?
[09:27] <Kristian> bokey, Denmark ;D
[09:27] <un_operateur> recon, as to whether it is syntactically correct, you'll need to test it out, i'm not that good a bash guru (i dont really like bash)
[09:27] <un_operateur> :)
[09:27] <dtg> juano: I don't know
[09:27] <Kristian> bokey, you ?
[09:27] <factorx_> ok i just installed ubuntu server and now I have a funny problem at the login prompt: every character I type is entered twice. why so and what can i do about that?
[09:27] <bokey> Kristian, pm.
[09:27] <juano> dtg: for CLIENT: sudo dhclient ethX   ///  for SERVER: sudo dhcpd3 ethX
[09:27] <rioghal> bokey, Kristian Please take that to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:27] <dtg> juano: I'm trying to connect to router
[09:27] <bokey> rioghal, we are
[09:27] <dtg> automatically
[09:27] <ZarathustraDK> Enselic, tried, it mentioned something about compiling a new kernel and stuff, any easier way?
[09:27] <dtg> at boot
[09:27] <mnoir> theturtlemoves: mine too - leave it be and come back to it later.  or just change the path in every profile-like file in yer home dir until one works!
[09:27] <dtg> I have to press connect manually for it to do it
[09:27] <juano> dtg: ok, then run sudo dhclient eth0
[09:27] <dtg> ok, I did
[09:27] <hakrzcode> MarkDetroit: i see the problem. It has an encryption key, but in your other output, the security was not activated. Do not forget to add the key to your config. if you are doing from the command line, then add an "s:" in front of the key if it is a string.
[09:28] <theturtlemoves> mnoir: heh
[09:28] <dtg> but will that make it connect automatically at boot every time/
[09:28] <Enselic`> DrAk0: you probably have sound at /dev/audio
[09:28] <Blackhold> can anyone help me with ybin please?
[09:28] <dtg> because it's not now
[09:28] <mnoir> theturtlemoves: i gotta go feed the sheep anyway :)
[09:28] <Enselic`> Blackhold: whats your problem?
[09:28] <PwndMopar> enselic`, they only have two bin files, one being the rpm.
[09:28] <Cyberai> can anyone tell me if there is a quick and dirty way to tell what version of ubuntu it is running? I only have command line access, so no GUI tricks.
[09:28] <zachhale> i've got a DNS question, please pardon the copy-paste
[09:28] <juano> dtg: it doesnt at boot time? well you can make a script for that
[09:28] <zachhale> zachhale: i've got a question about setting up dns with local ip addresses
[09:28] <zachhale> [12:25pm]  zachhale: i already have a dns server for my domain but i want to somehow have like a sub-dns server as a gateway to a private network
[09:28] <zachhale> [12:26pm]  zachhale: like, in my main dns i want to pawn off the dns settings to another server
[09:28] <zachhale> [12:26pm]  zachhale: is there a way to do that?
[09:28] <DrAk0> Enselic`, drako@soto:/dev/snd$ ls controlC0  pcmC0D0c  pcmC0D0p  pcmC0D1c  pcmC0D2p  timer
[09:28] <Enselic`> DrAk0: you use Ubuntu?
[09:29] <DrAk0> Enselic`, i do not have any -/dev/audio
[09:29] <hakrzcode> Dylanp: please add the multiverse, and universe sources to your apt sources. System->Administration->Software Sources
[09:29] <DrAk0> Enselic`, yes, dapper
[09:29] <Dylanp> aha, hakrzcode i fixed it already, thnx for the help iig
[09:29] <un_operateur> recon, just a small test --- test=0; until [ $test == 1 ] ; do echo "yes" && test=1; done
[09:29] <Blackhold> Enselic`: I'm trying to reconfigure the yaboot
[09:29] <Blackhold> I have reinstalled mac os x
[09:29] <Enselic`> DrAk0: k, in any caes you don't have sound where it thinks
[09:29] <hakrzcode> Dylanp: do not forget to update your sources.
[09:29] <dtg> juano: it did automaticaly before. but I must have done something, and it's not anymore
[09:29] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode , I'm not sure where to add the "s".  What command should I be entering in terminal?  Or so I need to add it in my wpa_supplican.conf?
[09:29] <Blackhold> and I mount the linux partition and the /proc
[09:29] <Blackhold> and do ybin -v
[09:29] <dtg> juano: all I did was just install/uninstall some network managers
[09:29] <DrAk0> Enselic`, where to fix it?
[09:29] <Blackhold> but it says that cannot do it :(
[09:29] <dtg> juano: and power manager
[09:29] <bokey> Kristian, hon you there ?
[09:29] <Blackhold> the yaboot is ok
[09:30] <juano> dtg: open up a new text file and write this, after this save it to /etc/init.d/ :   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1217/
[09:30] <Enselic`> PwndMopar: (rpm is not a bin file) take the other then
[09:30] <jano_> hi... I just installed flash on my xubuntu edgy (firefox plugin) and it's crashing when I open pages with flash ever since... how can I fix it??
[09:30] <Enselic`> DrAk0: probably some flag to pass
[09:30] <PwndMopar> Enselic`, got it :P
[09:30] <Enselic`> DrAk0: man muse    or    muse --help to find out
[09:30] <hakrzcode> MarkDetroit: I will give you an example. or if you want, then install wifi-radar. It is the best wireless config program. It gives you the ability to add profiles for wireless.
[09:30] <juano> dtg: with that script youll make it up at boot time
[09:30] <un_operateur> Enselic`, well, if an .rpm is not a binary file, is it an .rpm a text file?? :)
[09:30] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode , sounds great.  Lay it on me
[09:31] <dtg> juano: but that seems like a hack, I  would like to figure out why it stopped in the first place, how does the original installation do it
[09:31] <dtg> because it worked fine on fresh install
[09:31] <rioghal> un_operateur, an .rpm is a type of compressed archive
[09:31] <Enselic`> un_operateur: itsn't it more like a data file? I mean those are not executable are they?
[09:31] <juano> dtg: dunno... maybe uninstalling some stuff corrupted it
[09:31] <un_operateur> rioghal, all compressed archives happen to be binary files incidentally
[09:32] <riotkittie> .rpm = leading cause of headaches ;p
[09:32] <bokey> Enselic`, rpm aren't executable
[09:32] <I-kido> all apples are bananas incidentally
[09:32] <rioghal> an .rpm is a compressed archive which is used by the Red Hat Package Manager (rpm)
[09:32] <DrAk0> Enselic`, no options for that
[09:32] <dtg> juano: corrupted What, though?
[09:32] <tumbleweed> I'm getting no sound on ati-ixp audio after hibernation resume (in feisty)
[09:32] <Tox> !xubuntu
[09:32] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[09:32] <Enselic`> DrAk0: then you need to recompile the program
[09:32] <un_operateur> Enselic`, well, some text files are executable .. doesnt make them binary -- an executable doesnt really have to do whether the file is binary or not
[09:32] <juano> dtg: probably checking your dhcp.conf in /etc/dhcp you can find something, though i doubt it cause your problem is for client not server
[09:32] <rizo> hi
[09:32] <DrAk0> Enselic`, was thinking about that , ill do that
[09:32] <Enselic`> DrAk0: could be an ENV var also
[09:32] <rioghal> un_operateur, so a .tar.tg file is a binary? I think not
[09:32] <hakrzcode> key s:nowthismybaby, this is how I do it. I changed the key to protect the innocent. @MarkDetroit
[09:32] <rizo> I have a problem with usplash
[09:33] <un_operateur> rioghal, it sure is
[09:33] <Cyberai> can anyone tell me if there is a quick and dirty way to tell what version of ubuntu a box is running? I only have command line access, so no GUI tricks.
[09:33] <rioghal> .tar.gz
[09:33] <rizo> i can't see any uspalsh screen when bootin
[09:33] <rizo> booting*
[09:33] <bokey> rioghal, you mean .tar.tgz ?
[09:33] <Enselic`> un_operateur: true, I see you point
[09:33] <DrAk0> Enselic`, been searching alot nothing found, ill compire and see
[09:33] <tumbleweed> rizo: check out /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[09:33] <NevroPus> whats the name of the program to show a txt file in the terminal?
[09:33] <tumbleweed> grr
[09:33] <rizo> what do i do in there?
[09:34] <tumbleweed> sorry, meant that for Cyberai
[09:34] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode , I don't understand the example, But I have wifi-radar installed and it shows me as connected to my AP
[09:34] <MetaBookfoziS> !java
[09:34] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[09:34] <Enselic`> NevroPus: cat
[09:34] <recon> un_operateur: according to #bash, "while apt-get install tremulous-data; do :; done" should work.
[09:34] <NevroPus> thanks;)
[09:34] <rioghal> bokey, no, .tar,gz or .tar.bz2 and I don't think they are binary files
[09:34] <Cyberai> tumbleweed, thanks, I should have thought of that  :)
[09:34] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode , still no system tray icon for the wireless though
[09:34] <bokey> rioghal, :) they are archive formats.
[09:34] <Enselic`> NevroPus: cat > test-file       to write to test-file with kb    Ctrl + D to quit
[09:34] <rioghal> bokey, That's what I thought
[09:34] <Enselic`> NevroPus: also good to know :)
[09:34] <juano> dtg: plus that file is most for declaring subnets for your DHCP server, i wouldnt bother much, id go for the script though
[09:34] <rizo> its installed but i don't get a splash screen when boting
[09:34] <HymnToLife> [21:33]  <NevroPus> whats the name of the program to show a txt file in the terminal? <= cat, or less if you want to browse through it
[09:35] <rioghal> HymnToLife, cat file
[09:35] <un_operateur> recon, well yea, it looks good
[09:35] <NevroPus> thanks people
[09:35] <bokey> rioghal, but in linux you can't decide the fate of a piece of software on the basis of it's extension like winblows
[09:35] <recon> un_operateur: seems to be working.
[09:35] <rioghal> bokey, true
[09:35] <hakrzcode> MarkDetroit. for wifi radar, choose open system, and then put in the ascii string, if you use a string. Then choose connect, or disconnect, and then connect.
[09:35] <Enselic`> bokey: sure you can
[09:35] <bokey> Enselic`, enlighten me please.
[09:36] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode , ascii string, not long-ass psk, right?
[09:36] <shwag> syntax help please..   sudo route add -net 192.168.1.0 gw 198.168.6.1
[09:36] <Enselic`> bokey: or wait, I think I misintepreted what you said
[09:36] <bokey> Enselic`, :P
[09:36] <HymnToLife> rioghal, cat won't let you browse the file, so it's not convenient for long files
[09:36] <rioghal> Enselic`, Linux basically ignores file extensions
[09:36] <juano> shwag: sudo route add -net 192.168.1.0 default gw 198.168.6..1
[09:36] <bokey> Enselic`, rioghal it all depends on the calculated magic number.
[09:36] <theturtlemoves> mnoir: got it working!
[09:37] <Enselic`> rioghal: Yeah, except for text files .cpp etc
[09:37] <hakrzcode> try either of the options. it depends on how you setup your wireless ap. You will know when you get the correct security setting.
[09:37] <bokey> Enselic`, :P
[09:37] <juano> shwag: sudo route add -net 192.168.1.0 default gw 198.168.6.1  --- try that
[09:37] <bokey> Kristian, babe... have a good day and give me a buzz when you feel like having one <beep>.
[09:37] <hakrzcode> brb.... [09:37] <bokey> Kristian, take care.
[09:37] <shwag> juano: nope
[09:37] <rioghal> Enselic`, you can remove the .cpp and it's still a text file that will still open in a text editor. the c/c++ files I have don't have any extensions
[09:38] <shwag> juano: doesnt return error anymore, but returns the help usage dialog.
[09:38] <kane77> hi...
[09:38] <Enselic`> rioghal: vim and so on deduce the file type from its extenions
[09:38] <shwag> juano: i tried adding netmask, and it just returns the usage dialog.
[09:38] <un_operateur> rioghal, but some applications mandate that you use extentions on files .. for example gcc and .c or perl with .pm or python with .pyc
[09:38] <kane77> i installed flash plugin for firefox and firefox keeps on crashing... :( how can I fix it??
[09:38] <Enselic`> rioghal: anyway, source files are more or less the only "exception"
[09:38] <rioghal> Enselic`, I know better, but I'm not going to argue in this channel
[09:38] <juano> shwag: sudo route add -net 192.168.1.0 -netmask (something) 198.168.6.1  --- this could work, sometimes putting the gateway beside without gw works
[09:39] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode , WIFI Radar gives me a list of APs, and buttons that say New, Edit, Delete, Disconnect, & Close.  It says I am connected to my AP, but disconnect doesn't respond, nor does edit.  New gives my some options, but for WPA, it asks me what driver to use and requires I type it (no list)
[09:39] <Marupa> Hi, uh, very new to ubuntu.  How does one go about installing a uniprocessor kernel?
[09:40] <kane77> Marupa, isn't it automaticaly installed?
[09:40] <un_operateur> Marupa, if you have a single processor, an uniprocessor kernel is installed for you .. its the default
[09:40] <Marupa> then how come it's running a SMP kernel?
[09:41] <Kristian> bokey, hmm, what should i do now ? :S
[09:41] <Falstius> I have an old thinkpad (iSeries 1452) that I wanted to install linux on, but every distro I tried couldn't handle the cdrom or harddrive (so got one or the other).  So I'm finally resorting to win2k which seems to be installing smoothly ... It is really annoying (all my other machines run Linux).  Has anyone gotten around such problems?
[09:41] <bokey> Kristian, what's wrong ?
[09:41] <bokey> Kristian, where are you ?
[09:42] <riotkittie> Falstius: which distros did you try?
[09:42] <K1GPL> is there a problem with a recent ubuntu update causing you to be logged off and not be able to sign back in?
[09:42] <Kristian> bokey, i've copied your repositories
[09:42] <Kristian> bokey, and i need nvidia glx drivers :)
[09:42] <kbrosnan> kane77: flash 9 beta  2 is out, many people say it is more stable, labs.adobe.com and http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html#Flash
[09:42] <BigMac> `Enselic: Could You point me to some of those tutorials you spoke of earlier because I am having trouble finding them and still have no replies on the forum
[09:43] <NevroPus> How do I write to a file without beeing in a gui?
[09:43] <un_operateur> NevroPus, use an editor like nano or vi
[09:43] <Falstius> riotkittie: ubuntu alternative install, KateOS, VOHO (which is the only one that handled the CDrom okay, but wouldn't read the HD)
[09:43] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode , you there?
[09:43] <Marupa> un_operateur:  ubuntu states, via uname -a that I'm running SMP kernel.  I know I only have one CPU.
[09:43] <bokey> Kristian, fire up synaptic. "sudo synaptic"
[09:43] <kane77> kbrosnan, thanx... does it automaticaly install flash 9 now? (when you run across a site with flash it gives you the option to install missing plugins... is it 9?)
[09:43] <Kristian> bokey, its open ;D
[09:43] <juano> Falstius: this link could help http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_6.10_(Edgy_Eft)_on_a_ThinkPad_T60
[09:43] <DarkLinux> lol
[09:43] <kbrosnan> kane77: no
[09:44] <Falstius> juano: that laptop is about 10 years newer than this one :)
[09:44] <Kristian> bokey, the nvidia-glx drivers are installed allready
[09:44] <bokey> Kristian, wait up honey. :P
[09:44] <kane77> kbrosnan, is it 7?
[09:44] <Kristian> bokey, ok :P
[09:44] <hakrzcode> MarkDetroit: back.
[09:44] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode , WIFI Radar gives me a list of APs, and buttons that say New, Edit, Delete, Disconnect, & Close.  It says I am connected to my AP, but disconnect doesn't respond, nor does edit.  New gives my some options, but for WPA, it asks me what driver to use and requires I type it (no list)
[09:44] <un_operateur> Marupa, hmm, is there a specific reason for wanting to change that?
[09:44] <juano> Falstius: lol, no idea, just read thinkpad
[09:44] <DarkLinux> juano: i think it will work ibm is cool woth linux
[09:44] <Marupa> vmware is being very slow, they told me to switch it to uniprocessor.
[09:44] <hakrzcode> MarkDetroit: hold on.
[09:44] <riotkittie> Falstius: try slackware? or a slackbased distro?
[09:44] <bokey> Kristian, look for nvidia-glx
[09:44] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode , ty
[09:45] <BigMac> Enselic`: Did you find anything?
[09:45] <Falstius> riotkittie: VOHO is optimized slackware
[09:45] <juano> DarkLinux: yep, it should work
[09:45] <Kristian> bokey, installed allready
[09:45] <Enselic`> BigMac: find what?
[09:45] <juano> shwag: any luck??
[09:45] <riotkittie> Falstius: ah! i did not know that :)  wow.
[09:45] <bokey> Kristian, so what's the problem ?
[09:45] <juano> shwag: sudo route add -net 192.168.1.0 -netmask (something) 198.168.6.1  --- this could work, sometimes putting the gateway beside without gw works
[09:45] <bokey> Kristian, you can't get nvidia glx to work ?
[09:45] <BigMac> Enselic`: Could You point me to some of those tutorials you spoke of earlier because I am having trouble finding them and still have no replies on the forum
[09:46] <Falstius> riotkittie: sorry it is vector linux (SOHO edition).  I sort of mangled things together :)
[09:46] <Enselic`> BigMac: I mean that _you_ could google for it
[09:46] <Kristian> bokey, no :S
[09:46] <Enselic`> BigMac: Or rather, if I were you, I'd google for it
[09:46] <hakrzcode> MarkDetroit: ok, i do not have WPA filled in. for options, it is auto, auto, s:nowthismybaby, open
[09:46] <riotkittie> ahhh, yeah, vector. that sounds more familiar. heheh.
[09:46] <Kristian> bokey, maybe install the nvidia-glx-dev thing ?
[09:47] <BigMac> Enselic`: I have checked google for this error but most were pertaining to the nvidia card set
[09:47] <riotkittie> i keep meaning to give that a go. ive got zenwalk installed at the moment.
[09:47] <shwag> juano: no luck yet.
[09:47] <bokey> Kristian, development packages. try it. it's only needed if something else depends on the header files of nvidia glx. but install it anyway. won't harm. :)
[09:47] <Enselic`> BigMac: instead of that specific error, search for how to install driver for your card
[09:47] <Kristian> bokey, will try
[09:47] <Enselic`> BigMac: hopefull, drivers will solve your problem
[09:47] <Falstius> riotkittie: I keep meaning to also, and I figured a 233 MHZ celeron would put its "light and fast" to a real test ;)  the only thing I didn't try was redhat.
[09:48] <BigMac> Enselic`: In linux right because windows autoatically obtained it
[09:48] <Kristian> bokey, it needs some dependecies, that i don't have in my new reps to continue, it says
[09:48] <Enselic`> BigMac: complain to the gfx manufacturer, not linux
[09:48] <giner> Hi, All
[09:48] <erpo> I'm running edgy and I have a VT8237 south bridge for onboard audio. I cannot hear sound out of my back speakers. What can I do?
[09:48] <recon> Somebody in another channel said I "will derive enormous benefits by prioritizing your outgoing TCP ACK packets". Any idea about how to do that?
[09:48] <bokey> Kristian, okay leave it then.
[09:48] <bokey> Kristian, open your console. type "glxinfo".
[09:49] <Kristian> bokey, ok
[09:49] <bokey> Kristian, what does that do ?
[09:49] <k31th> whats that nice opensource drawing app ? sort of thing you would use to make logos... not gimp
[09:49] <giner> Anybody use wmii on Ubuntu?
[09:49] <Enselic`> k31th: inkscape
[09:49] <Flannel> k31th: inkscape
[09:49] <lupine_85> inkscape ?
[09:49] <TheMafia> Can I install opera from some apt-get repo (repo is a yum term, what term should I use?)
[09:49] <k31th> thanks.
[09:49] <lupine_85> snap :p
[09:49] <stefg> !sound | erpo
[09:49] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode , It says that a profile already exists for my SSID and will not let me delete that profile
[09:49] <ubotu> erpo: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[09:49] <varsendaggr> !flash
[09:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:49] <Kristian> bokey, write all kind of crap :P lots!
[09:49] <hakrzcode> MarkDetroit: choose edit.
[09:49] <riotkittie> heheh. my slowest is a 333mhz amd k-6.  :\
[09:49] <Flannel> TheMafia: repository (repo) is an apt-get term too.
[09:49] <Flannel> !opera | TheMafia
[09:49] <ubotu> TheMafia: opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[09:50] <bokey> Kristian, ok.
[09:50] <hakrzcode> !commands
[09:50] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[09:50] <hakrzcode> !help
[09:50] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:50] <hakrzcode> haha.
[09:50] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode , Delete Edit & Disconnect are all unresponsive.  Should I reboot and see if that helps?
[09:50] <BigMac> Enselic`: I'm sorry i wan't trying to complain I just am trying to figure out how to get Ubuntu working on this box and I don't have any pointers on what I am doing. Before it all installed flawlessly
[09:50] <juano> shwag: i think the problem is that you have to do it separately, maybe try sudo route add -net 192.168.1.0 -netmask (something) //// then try sudo route add default gw 192.168.6.1
[09:50] <bokey> Kristian, what's your intension with nvidia glx ? please hon. no time to play. tell me quick.
[09:50] <hakrzcode> ubotu seems quite knowledgable.
[09:51] <recon> Does anybody know how to prioritize outgoing TCP ACK packets?
[09:51] <shwag> juano: aahhh...good thinking.
[09:51] <bokey> Kristian, :P
[09:51] <Kristian> bokey, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1218/
[09:51] <Enselic`> BigMac: I'm sorry for sounding angry, I wasn't :p
[09:51] <hakrzcode> MarkDetroit: did it ask for password before coming up?
[09:51] <Kristian> bokey, :P I wanna play with it, honey :D I need it to run X-Plane
[09:51] <juano> shwag: worked now??
[09:51] <Enselic`> BigMac: so the same graphics card has worked before?
[09:51] <jason^> is there any software to put up a live stream of your webcam served on the localhost?
[09:51] <bokey> Kristian, umm...
[09:51] <BigMac> Enselic': Oh Ok well If anyone can think of anything please don't hesitate to pm me
[09:51] <bokey> Kristian, ok.
[09:51] <bokey> Kristian, what error does X-Plane give you ?
[09:52] <Enselic`> BigMac: Use the <tab> key
[09:52] <Enselic`> BigMac: Ens<TAB>
[09:52] <un_operateur> juano, if the default route is specified later, why require the other one? after-all all unknown traffic is going to hit 192.168.6.1, isn't it?
[09:52] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode , you mean like is it running as sudo?  No.  I launched it from Applications>Internet>WIFI Radar
[09:52] <bokey> Kristian, why don't you play with me instead of X-Plane ?
[09:52] <TheMafia> Flannel, Thanks, is this for edgy because I can't find Opera in add/remove or synaptic?
[09:52] <juano> un_operateur: its a syntax problem not a route problem
[09:52] <Flannel> jason^: there's quite a few.  search the repositories for "webcam"
[09:52] <BigMac> Enselic': No I had a different computer entirely. SO that is making isolation of this problem rather difficult
[09:52] <Jon335> I'm running an older computer with a pci video card, and an onboard video card. There's no way to disable the onboard, and the Ubuntu install cd uses the onboard video which doesn't work. How do I make it use the PCI video card?
[09:52] <juano> un_operateur: read back
[09:52] <hakrzcode> hmmm, it should have asked for a password before running. It should by default should have run through gksudo.
[09:52] <un_operateur> recon, some where in the labyrinths of the iptables man page is a section or two on the topic of prioritisation
[09:53] <bokey> Kristian, grr.... honey what error does X-Plane give you ?
[09:53] <Kristian> bokey, lol, cause there's too long way down to Australia ;O "I can nnot find a 3-D accelerator that can handle OpenGL that has correctly installed drivers."
[09:53] <MarkDetroit> should I close and launch from terminal with sudo?  What would the command line be?  gksudo wifiradar?
[09:53] <hakrzcode> @MarkDetroit:  it should have asked for a password before running. It should by default should have run through gksudo.
[09:53] <bokey> Kristian, hehe.. :)
[09:53] <BigMac> Enselic`: It could not even pertain to the video card this is just what I was told last night by ikonia
[09:53] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode , should I close and launch from terminal with sudo?  What would the command line be?  gksudo wifiradar?
[09:53] <Enselic`> BigMac: ubuntu probably doesn't install becaues of the graphciscard it too new
[09:53] <MuckUp> it sucks
[09:53] <pike_> Jon335: id probably just use the alternate install cd instead of livecd then after install edit configs accordingly
[09:53] <MuckUp> oeeqwjfewdjfsl;ka
[09:53] <Kristian> bokey, So, to me it seems like that X-Plane can't find the drivers aka. they aren't installed :P
[09:53] <MuckUp> FWEL;RLD;EWKASDFODCWEPSDOKFCLEWDKSPC
[09:53] <MuckUp> EFDEW;DFE;WSDOFPCEWKODS;FKLCEW
[09:53] <stefg> Jon335: you have to tell the Xserver in your xorg.conf which card to use. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:53] <MuckUp> DFCOEFL;CEDOISFCESDALFCIES
[09:53] <MuckUp> REDFOP4ERWOFOICP4IOREPDISOFC
[09:54] <Flannel> TheMafia: there are instructions on that page, Method two is what you're looking for
[09:54] <MuckUp> EWFPROFPIREOFIORPEOLCKEWODSPKC
[09:54] <Pennypacker> aha
[09:54] <MuckUp> WEFJKWELFD;WE;DWEPODFLC;EOWDS
[09:54] <Flannel> !ops
[09:54] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[09:54] <MuckUp> ERWFPEQOPWIOFKWEQFC
[09:54] <MuckUp> KICKME
[09:54] <MuckUp> lkewjfasldf;ckl;weklsd
[09:54] <bokey> !libgl
[09:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <MuckUp> adskfljkofjierdsjvcorjeovcjiaw
[09:54] <hakrzcode> MarkDetroit: yes, do that, or from run application, then run gksudo wifi-radar
[09:54] <MuckUp> fwedafcl;dakl;cklerdovpr
[09:54] <MuckUp> fwredfjocpwejiosfjowejsdofj
[09:54] <recon> somebody ban MuckUP.
[09:54] <bokey> !mesa
[09:54] <MuckUp> fewasjfklvrcjklwaejdsfjk
[09:54] <TheMafia> Flannel, thanks
[09:54] <MuckUp> awoiefjcifoeajfiorejsoz
[09:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mesa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <bokey> Kristian, open up synaptic please.
[09:54] <Kristian> MuchUp, shut it plz
[09:54] <MuckUp> kk
[09:54] <riotkittie> man. they just dont make irc trolls teh way the used to
[09:54] <Kristian> bokey, ok
[09:54] <hakrzcode> ops... please follow the request by Muckup to kick him.
[09:54] <rioghal> Just add the infant to your ignore list 
[09:54] <Kristian> bokey, opened' honey :P
[09:54] <bokey> Kristian, look for libgl
[09:54] <Commander-Crowe> My installations keep frezeing because my HDD doesn't like the ext3 format
[09:55] <Commander-Crowe> what should I use?
[09:55] <bokey> Kristian, ahha... honey it's sweet
[09:55] <stefg>  /me reminds everybody to use  /ignore muckup
[09:55] <Kristian> bokey, now what ? ;D
[09:55] <Gosha> is ther something like "Far manager" for linux?
[09:55] <Gosha> !cellphone
[09:55] <Kristian> bokey, glade-gnome ?
[09:55] <shwag> juano: sudo route add -net 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.6.1    worked.  strange...i had to default my entire routing table first, and then do it. dhcp might have been interfering.
[09:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cellphone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:55] <Gosha> !mobile
[09:55] <bokey> Kristian, look for libgl1 and libgl1-mesa
[09:55] <Pennypacker> !hi
[09:55] <BlueLaguna> Hmm, is an AMD Duron 2400 a decent processor?
[09:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mobile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:55] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:55] <pike_> Commander-Crowe: ive used reiserfs successfully many times but prefer ext3
[09:55] <Flannel> Commander-Crowe: your HD doesn't care what format is used
[09:55] <lupine_85> BlueLaguna: yeah, it's OK
[09:55] <juano> un_operateur: the command to add gw is route add default gw, he tried route add -net etc.. default gw then and didnt work caus eof syntax, of course the gateway will be the same
[09:56] <pike_> Commander-Crowe: what errors?
[09:56] <Kristian> bokey, i have libgl1-mesa installed, and cant find libgl
[09:56] <BlueLaguna> Alright, I'm getting a new download server and I was wondering if that would be too slow
[09:56] <bokey> hakrzcode, yeah people don't understand that rtfm is "read the fine manual". :)
[09:56] <juano> shwag: ok, good :)
[09:56] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode , terminal is freaking out.  keeps repeating eth0 sit0 and l0 lines that read "Interface does not support scanning" "no wireless extensions"
[09:56] <Kristian> BlueLaguna -> Depends on your needs, it's not the worldst fastest ;)
[09:57] <bokey> Kristian, wait up honey. :)
[09:57] <Kristian> bokey, ok (:
[09:57] <BlueLaguna> Yeah, It's going to be transferring about 50Mbit/s over HTTP
[09:57] <Commander-Crowe> pike_ no errors, it jsut frezes at 34%
[09:57] <BigMac> Enselic`: Ubuntu doesn't work on newer machines?
[09:57] <BlueLaguna> I figure that wouldn't be using much CPU power, but I don't want it to be too slow.
[09:57] <Enselic`> BigMac: new hardware = no drivers yet
[09:57] <hakrzcode> MarkDetroit, that is the beginning of dhcp startup. It is debug output. the stuff you do not usually see with GUI apps. You can safely ignore that.
[09:57] <Kristian> BlueLaguna - Well, for normal office use it's more than fine ;)
[09:58] <MarkDetroit> Does that mean that my wireless card is at eth0 even though System>Admin>Networking shows it at eth1?
[09:58] <hakrzcode> MarkDetroit: it will scan all of your ethernet devices, and check to see if they are wireless or not.
[09:58] <Commander-Crowe> pike_ ok reiserFS works :) thanks
[09:59] <recon> Does anybody know how to prioritize outgoing TCP ACK packets?
[09:59] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode, I see.  Well the interface is still unresponsive in the afore mentioned ways
[09:59] <Kristian> Blue Laguna -> Should be enough :)
[09:59] <bokey> Kristian, read up https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia and then if you get stuck ask me. ok hon ?
[09:59] <roxlu> hi all
[09:59] <BigMac> Enselic`: SO how long do you think it will be untill ubuntu supports my laptops gfx card. I mean It shouldn't be too new( probably like 6 months)
[09:59] <bokey> Kristian, it's pretty easy. :)
[09:59] <giner> roxlu, hi
[09:59] <roxlu> whats a good php/javascript/css/js.. editor for ubuntu?
[09:59] <b_52Centos> what do you use like text client for icq ?
[10:00] <Enselic`> BigMac: My guess is as good as yours :)
[10:00] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode , could my wp_supplicant.conf be screwing thisngs up, or is it irrelevant with WiFi-Radar?
[10:00] <Flannel> b_52Centos: centericq
[10:00] <hakrzcode> MarkDetroit: hmmm, that is funny. I have never had problems with this card. You did not install any packages to support this chip? Maybe install a cvs version?
[10:00] <Kristian> bokey, tired it, i can't get find "In the Software Preferences dialog that comes up, click the Add button."
[10:00] <bokey> roxlu, use gedit/gvim
[10:00] <un_operateur> juano, the only thing odd i noticed you suggest was add 192.168.6.x as the gateway for 192.168.1.x .. which will fail anyway because of the different subnets  (assuming classful addressing)
[10:00] <b_52Centos> Flannel,  i just tried it i didn't like :d ...
[10:00] <MarkDetroit> Not that I was aware of.
[10:00] <bokey> Kristian, ok let me see
[10:00] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode, Not that I was aware of.
[10:00] <Kristian> bokey, ok
[10:00] <Flannel> b_52Centos: an alternative is bitlbee
[10:00] <hakrzcode> MarkDetroit: I am not sure of the wp_supplicant.conf, do not use.
[10:00] <roxlu> bokey: does gedit have templates?
[10:00] <juano> un_operateur: he gave me those ip, i didnt suggest nothing for address
[10:00] <giner> roxlu, try quanta
[10:00] <roxlu> or code snippets?
[10:01] <juano> un_operateur: i know, proper routing should go for a lower number
[10:01] <roxlu> .. oke (ddoes quanta has code snippets/templates)
[10:01] <bokey> Kristian, is it this part of the HOWTO ? -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#head-442028f641933e559611b8e6993bff808d600069
[10:01] <un_operateur> juano, eh, lower numbers?
[10:01] <foutrelis> Hello. I use Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft and I would like to change my screen's reftesh rate from 75Hz (the only available option at System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution) to 72 or 60. How do I do that? :)
[10:01] <b_52Centos> Flannel,  ok thks
[10:01] <Kristian> bokey, yes, that's where i came to - i can't get furhter
[10:02] <juano> un_operateur: plus why would they fail? dont see why
[10:02] <bokey> Kristian, open synaptic
[10:02] <Kristian> bokey, yes honey :D
[10:02] <giner> roxlu, http://quanta.kdewebdev.org/screenshots.php
[10:02] <Falstius> foutrelis: is it an LCD?  Or you like a flickering CRT?  You can modify the xorg.conf file by hand (it isn't too difficult)
[10:02] <BigMac> Enselic`: Do you think perhaps 6.1 might have support for it?
[10:02] <Pennypacker> find the right modeline for your xorg.conf
[10:02] <Enselic`> BigMac: that's be 7.10
[10:02] <Enselic`> that'll
[10:02] <bokey> Kristian, :P --> x
[10:02] <bokey> Kristian, hehe.. :P honey done ?
[10:02] <Enselic`> BigMac: sorry, 7.4
[10:02] <Enselic`> BigMac: sorry, 7.04
[10:03] <Kristian> bokey, yep
[10:03] <Enselic`> BigMac: coming in mars
[10:03] <un_operateur> juano, because the gateway is on a differrent subnet than the route is on .. it has to be on the same subnet
[10:03] <foutrelis> Falstius: LCD. let me open xorg.conf in gedit :)
[10:03] <Enselic`> BigMac: coming in april      (omg)
[10:03] <bokey> Kristian, Settings > Preference ?
[10:03] <bokey> Kristian, tell me when its done.
[10:03] <riotkittie> Enselic`: hahahahah. :)
[10:03] <Kristian> bokey, yes
[10:03] <juano> un_operateur: of course, it should be 255.255.0.0 cause of 6 and 1 i know
[10:03] <Falstius> foutrelis: I didn't know the LCD used the refresh rate.
[10:03] <bokey> Kristian, Settings > Repo sorry.
[10:03] <Kristian> bokey, ok done
[10:04] <juano> un_operateur: un_operateur it should allow for third xx to change
[10:04] <foutrelis> Falstius: It is better at 72 or 60.. at 75 I see kind of WAVES.. lol
[10:04] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode , I added these lines to my /etc/network/interfaces file.  Do you think I screwed something up there?  There was no eth1 listed there by default.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1220/
[10:04] <bokey> Kristian, now just select the repositories and choose the "Restricted ...."
[10:04] <bokey> Kristian, one by one.
[10:04] <Kristian> bokey, all of them ?
[10:04] <bokey> Kristian, yes.
[10:05] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode , I added these lines before I joined this channel btw.
[10:05] <Kristian> bokey, also the universe once ?
[10:05] <Falstius> foutrelis: if you're seeing waves on your LCD it might be your video cable.  Try 60 (it can't hurt the hardware to run it too low)
[10:05] <Kristian> bokey, done
[10:05] <juano> un_operateur: but that wasnt the point of the problem anyway, so its not relevant, the problem was the syntax
[10:05] <metal03> Hi there guys!!  I need help with wine...  trying to make World of Warcraft work on my Ubuntu Edgy64...  I am able to install it but when I try to run WoW it doesn't do anything...  Anyone can help?
[10:05] <bokey> Kristian, "Official..." + "Restricted ..." only
[10:06] <Kristian> bokey, ok
[10:06] <juano> un_operateur: and i didnt suggest those ip numbers
[10:06] <Kristian> bokey, done
[10:06] <juano> un_operateur: you hear me say "hey dude, put those ip numbers?"
[10:06] <foutrelis> Falstius: Is that option in xorg.conf 's "Screen" Section?
[10:06] <bokey> Kristian, honey .. now press ok
[10:06] <pi__> hi guys
[10:06] <Kristian> bokey, ok ;)
[10:07] <Falstius> foutrelis: no, Monitor section.
[10:07] <pi__> someone know xmail!?
[10:07] <foutrelis> ok
[10:07] <bokey> Kristian, do the same for all the repositories.
[10:07] <jano_> mplayer plugin doesn't play video for me... :(
[10:07] <jano_> what should I do?
[10:07] <Kristian> bokey, oh, i allready done that
[10:07] <giner> metal03, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[10:07] <foutrelis> Falstius: I ll try google to see what I can add.. Thanks :)
[10:07] <mdonahoe> hey all...i'm sort of newbie..but not quite...  my wifi card is working but the ESSID dropdown in network manager doesn't show networks... it does connect to my network at home - running edgy
[10:07] <juano> jano_: install win32codecs
[10:08] <mdonahoe> on an IBM x31 if that helps
[10:08] <newperson> how do i change the system wide keyboard configuration?
[10:08] <Travela_> I just created an iptable entry via webmin the the nat masquareding "PREROUTING". Some how by adding a rule I've managed to mangle the eth connection and I can't connnect back to webmin ... Is there any easy way to remove the iptable entry I just inserted?
[10:08] <BigMac> Enselic`: I thought there was edgy out right now? Or are you saying that probably won't fix it either?
[10:08] <Falstius> foutrelis: on my machine the line is "    HorizSync       30.0 - 70.0"
[10:08] <un_operateur> juano, right right, I get ya .. what i was saying was the default route should have sufficed enough
[10:08] <bokey> Kristian, so you've done for all of the repositories ?
[10:08] <Kristian> bokey, yes
[10:08] <hakrzcode> MarkDetroit: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1223/
[10:08] <foutrelis> Falstius: hmm
[10:08] <deus> well
[10:08] <Enselic`> BigMac: Edgy is out (6.10), next is Feisty Faw (7.04 = April 2007)
[10:08] <deus> no dependencis is unmet
[10:08] <bokey> Kristian, move on to next https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#head-f8ea537454e53c8ecf3af0d8946a8162ac1c008d
[10:08] <deus> i had to remove som crap but
[10:09] <Falstius> foutrelis: I have a 19" LCD running on a VGA cable (the DVI stopped working one day)
[10:09] <foutrelis> Falstius: Mine doesn't say anything like that.. I ll add them :P
[10:09] <Enselic`> BigMac: Fawn
[10:09] <bokey> Kristian, ofcourse press OK. :P
[10:09] <foutrelis> Same here
[10:09] <Travela_> Anyone?
[10:09] <juano> un_operateur: :P yep, its odd, i have here at home gw 192.168.0.1 and subnet 255.255.255.0 with dhcp server for rest of pcs, usuall config
[10:09] <Kristian> bokey, ok .P
[10:09] <foutrelis> I have the screen specs somewhere :P
[10:09] <hakrzcode> Travela_: I would seriously discourage managing iptables with webmin. One wrong command, can shut you off of webmin.
[10:09] <MarkDetroit> hakzcode , replace my interfaces file with that?
[10:09] <BigMac> Enselic`: But I was inquiring if edgy would possibly have the driver for this or would downloading it not be worth my time
[10:09] <jobbe> hey again, one more question. i'm trying out make-kpkd with the option --append-to-version. now if i do 'make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version -jobbe1 binary' on linux-2.6.19.1 (quite a recent source tree) the resulting .debs are named 'linux-...-2.6.19.1-jobbe1_2.6.19.1-jobbe1-10.00.Custom_...deb', that is the version part is duplicated for some reason. does anyone know why that might be?
[10:09] <sladen> mdonahoe: the essid drop down was broken in the GNOME shipped with edgy
[10:09] <bokey> Kristian, tell me where you get stuck in that.
[10:09] <Falstius> foutrelis: make sure to have a backup.  if you mess up your xorg config, you'll have to log in on the terminal.
[10:09] <bokey> Kristian, ok honey ?
[10:09] <un_operateur> juano, and it doesnt have to be 255.255.0.0 to accomodate 192.168.1.x and 192.168.6.x .. it can be as restrictive as 255.255.248.0
[10:10] <Kristian> bokey, ok
[10:10] <Travela_> hakrzcode .. which is what happend.. How can I fix this issue?
[10:10] <lolo_86> jest ktos z polski
[10:10] <lolo_86> ??
[10:10] <Pennypacker> there are modeline generators on www
[10:10] <juano> un_operateur: right..., well it was an example though :)
[10:10] <BULLE> lolo_86: english only afaik
[10:10] <hakrzcode> Travela_: I would edit on the box directly. What is your setup? Describe who you are giving access to. In other words how many nodes?
[10:10] <MarkDetroit> hakzcode , brb, gonna try reboot
[10:11] <lolo_86> haw uniinstal ubuntu
[10:11] <lolo_86> ??
[10:11] <giner> :)))
[10:11] <Travela_> well currently just about 3-6 via NAT ... I was going to jsut port forward to 1 box for now.. maybe a few more later.. but somehow I managed to mangle the iptables in webmin
[10:11] <Enselic`> BigMac: as I said, I have no idea of when drivers comes
[10:11] <Travela_> I can edit on the box directly.. but I'm an iptables newb
[10:12] <un_operateur> Travela_, man iptables
[10:12] <BULLE> lolo_86: just remove the partitions ? and put some other bootloader in place, instead of grub
[10:12] <Travela_> the only reason I'm doing this is to learn how to use iptables...
[10:12] <Travela_> un_operateur I have.. it's very large.. and right now.. people just want to use the network.. I was looking for a quick fix
[10:12] <bokey> Kristian, all good ?
[10:12] <Kristian> bokey, so far, downloading..
[10:12] <slop|top> i need some help : my installation has been working fine for months...today i got a new desk, so i disconnected everything and reconnected it...and now ubuntu won't boot - it hangs at the loading bar.  if i hit ctrl-alt-del, it takes me to a crazy blue screen that says that X couldn't start because of an internal problem, and i can eventually make my way to prompt (logged in as root) by hitting ctrl-alt-del ... at prompt, if i do sudo apt-get install --rein
[10:13] <bokey> Kristian, :) good honey. keep it going.
[10:13] <giner> Anybody speak russian?
[10:13] <bokey> Kristian, :P
[10:13] <Kristian> bokey, lol, ill try
[10:13] <bokey> Kristian, :Px
[10:13] <bokey> Kristian, ;0
[10:13] <proj> hello everyone, does anyone here use Ubuntu on a MacBook Pro? There is a question that I have about efi (before installing it)
[10:13] <foutrelis> Falstius: Restart X :)
[10:14] <foutrelis> *Restarting
[10:14] <un_operateur> Travela_, well, make a backup of the iptables and then tear down all of them sudo sh -c "iptables > iptables.bak; iptables -F; iptables -X"
[10:14] <newperson> short of reinstalling, how do i change the system keboard config. ?
[10:14] <un_operateur> Travela_, the next time, add a rule for webmin too :)
[10:14] <pi__> is there someone that know xmail?
[10:15] <un_operateur> Travela_, errm .. sorry, make the first part -- iptables -L > iptables.bak
[10:15] <Travela_> Ahh yes! .. I actually somehow disabled all connections to the box... I'm not sure how
[10:15] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode , didn't work.  Wifi-Radar said it connected to my neighbors unsecured AP but I still got no systray wireless icon and no connectivity
[10:15] <rioghal> Travela_, Good job, you made it more secure
[10:16] <un_operateur> Travela_, you probably have a very restrictive rule somewhere at the top that's blocking all traffic before it can be examined for validity
[10:16] <Travela_> rioghal: Yes, indeed. :D
[10:16] <foutrelis> Falstius: Still 75 Hz is the only option.. hmm
[10:16] <dwandke> Hi Everyone
[10:16] <Travela_> I added a rule too the NAT table for PREROUTING
[10:16] <hakrzcode> MarkDetroit, did it allow you to choose your wireless, and then connect? You will have to disconnect from your neighbors, unless they have faster internet.
[10:16] <giner> hi dwandke
[10:16] <Travela_> and then poof
[10:17] <bokey> Kristian, ;9
[10:17] <dwandke> BIG PROBLEM ;) ... can someone Tell me were to find the "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?" on Ubuntu Dapper ?
[10:17] <MarkDetroit> It connected automatically and Disconnect & Edit are still unresponsive
[10:18] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode , It connected automatically and Disconnect & Edit are still unresponsive
[10:18] <stefg_> dwandke: please use the vmplayer-packages from the repos
[10:18] <lifepositive> brb, going to break my fast :)  hence the word BreakFast
[10:18] <newperson> dwandke: should be /usr/src/linux
[10:18] <rioghal> Can someone say my nick so I can test something please?
[10:18] <giner> dwandke what are U doing for what?
[10:18] <dwandke> stefg_ have installed VMware Workstation
[10:18] <dwandke> giner for VMWare Workstation
[10:18] <dwandke> It runs Perfect
[10:18] <I-kido> rioghal
[10:19] <rioghal> I-kido, Thanks
[10:19] <dwandke> then i installed automatix2 ... selected gaim 2.03 Beta ... some files were updated an now ...
[10:19] <I-kido> rioghal no prob
[10:19] <un_operateur> dwandke, you probably need the linux-headers package for your current kernel version - sudo aptitude install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[10:19] <dwandke> vmware try to run but nothing is happend
[10:19] <mirak> I am looking for somebody experienced with serial ports. I have put a 2 ports pci card in a g4 350mhz. problem is that adresses of ports seems swapped for exemple ttyS0 is on 0x1050 and ttyS1 is on 0x1040. I have on the ports a infinity phoenix smartcard reader and a IR receiver. also ttyS0 and ttyS1 seems inverted on the hardware port, it's not what I got on linux x86.
[10:19] <jnjb> salut les gars
[10:19] <dwandke> Ah THX un_operateur
[10:19] <I-kido> salu jnjb
[10:20] <bokey> Kristian, u there hon ?
[10:20] <Kristian> bokey, working on this thing to start
[10:20] <dwandke> hope it works ;)
[10:20] <bokey> Kristian, check your PMs ;)
[10:20] <giner> dwandke :)
[10:20] <Kristian> bokey, hmm, i can't really get this thing working
[10:20] <Kristian> ..
[10:21] <hakrzcode> MarkDetroit: your box feels very undefault. I do not understand the inability to choose different options. The automatically choosing is a correct thing, choosing others, will move it further up the list in automatic connects.
[10:21] <bokey> Kristian, you can. first reply to the PMs.
[10:21] <bokey> Kristian, ;0
[10:21] <Kristian> bokey, i did
[10:21] <jnjb> ho pardon
[10:21] <cberl1> Can anyone tell me why I am no longer able to get my wireless card to go into master mode?  (Ubuntu Edgy 6.10; worked in 5.10, stopped in 6.0.6)
[10:21] <jnjb> i have a mistak
[10:21] <bokey> Kristian, no you haven't.
[10:21] <rohan> hi .. what program does ubuntu use to automatically configure laptop keys ?
[10:21] <jnjb> goodbye
[10:21] <Kristian> bokey, 22 - and yes
[10:21] <bokey> Kristian, "/msg bokey your love message"
[10:22] <I-kido> damn i read pms instead of PMs
[10:22] <dwandke> hmhm nothing is happend ...
[10:22] <juano> un_operateur: i have an issue, theres only one specific folder i cant see through my NTFS windows partition, i can see all rest of the folders, what could be causing this? sometimes when i mounted before i could see them
[10:22] <stefg> !keytouch | rohan
[10:22] <ubotu> rohan: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[10:22] <dwandke> now i have some folders ... wait ... uploading screenshot
[10:22] <Jordan_U> How can I check if my ATI card is supposed to be supported by the "ati" drivers? I don't want to use fglrx because I would like to use AIGLX
[10:22] <rioghal> bokey, Kristian Can you two get a room?
[10:22] <rohan> thanks a lot, stefg
[10:22] <bokey> rioghal, hey dude. what's the problem ? tell me you aren't jealous ?
[10:22] <Kristian> rioghal - need some help for my nvidia glx driver, it won't install
[10:22] <aneleitos> any ubuntu chat in greek?
[10:23] <rioghal> bokey, I'm a woman ;)
[10:23] <bokey> rioghal, i am also helping her with nvidia driver ;0
[10:23] <mdonahoe> ok...everything i've read says edgy has issues with the network manager listing the essid's - somebody point me to a way to revert back to dapper please
[10:23] <bokey> rioghal, ;0
[10:23] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode , hmmm.  is there another option?  I found a thread or two where people have had a similar WiFI radr issue but no solutions are posted
[10:23] <metal03> Can anyone help me configure my video card from Ubuntu Edgy64? I'm new to Linux and apparently it's what I need to do to make wine work!
[10:23] <stefg> dwandke: f you have bought the vmware workstation, you'll get support at vmware. if you you just fifinished your torrent, don't expect people to support piracy :-)
[10:23] <rohan> but how do kubuntu and ubuntu do it automatically / they use keytouch ?
[10:23] <hakrzcode> mdonahoe: I use wifi-radar, quite effectively.
[10:23] <un_operateur> juano, perhaps it's an NTFS permissions/ownership issue .. i'm not sure how you would check/change them through linux
[10:23] <Pennypacker> lots of 3d aps dont work with wine
[10:23] <mdonahoe> i tried that earlier and it's not showing anything...
[10:24] <mehmo> does anybody use Safari web browser on ubuntu?
[10:24] <bokey> rioghal, ;)
[10:24] <hakrzcode> MarkDetroit: hold on. I will research.
[10:24] <mdonahoe> very strange...
[10:24] <Jordan_U> mdonahoe: I have not heard of this problem, only that ndis wrapper is somwhat broken, network manager works fine for me
[10:24] <rohan> because i want to use ubuntu's method to set up my hotkeys in other distros
[10:24] <dwandke> stefg ... support at vmware is slow ... so i want some help now. and because it`s an UBUNTU problem atm for me ... so i try here ... whats the Problem?
[10:24] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode , thanks so much man.  I know I'm being a totally newbie pain in the as
[10:24] <rioghal> bokey, ok, placing you on my ignore list.. I don't need the sexual notifications in my irc client.. learn some respect.
[10:24] <juano> un_operateur: yeah i tried some chmod lines but no luck, maybe some kind of permissions i need to change via windows or something
[10:24] <bokey> rioghal, ok ok.. sorry. ;)
[10:24] <dwandke> so here is the Screenshot
[10:24] <dwandke> http://www.directupload.net/file/d/939/WXmjER6q_png.htm
[10:24] <un_operateur> juano, is it a system folder like "System Volume Information" or "Recycler" ?
[10:25] <hakrzcode> MarkDetroit: no problem. It breaks the boredom, until I get my job offer. haha
[10:25] <Jordan_U> rohan: Just use your Ubuntu xorg.conf in your other distro, AFIK it should work and that is where hot keys would be configured, but I am not 100% sure
[10:25] <mdonahoe> ok...i'll try reinstalling from a disc... see u guys after while
[10:25] <juano> un_operateur: nope, actually 2 folders, My music and My images from Documents and Settings/Juano/My Documents
[10:25] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode , good luck with that.  Lemme know if you need a reference that'll refer to you as a "badass"
[10:25] <bokey> Kristian, babe some other time. Gotta go.
[10:25] <rohan> Jordan_U: will try .. thanks a lot
[10:25] <Kristian> bokey, cya
[10:25] <bokey> Kristian, goodluck alright ?
[10:26] <un_operateur> juano, errm, there's a package called ntfsprogs which probably has tools to check/change the permissions
[10:26] <Kristian> bokey, thnx
[10:26] <un_operateur> !ntfsprogs
[10:26] <hakrzcode> MarkDetroit: no prob.. I am up for a Data Center, and just waiting for them to process paperwork.
[10:26] <baastrup> hi anyone familier with vlans?
[10:26] <ubotu> ntfsprogs: tools for doing neat things in NTFS partitions from Linux. In component main, is optional. Version 1.12.1-1 (edgy), package size 205 kB, installed size 532 kB
[10:26] <bokey> Kristian, lots of Kangaroos here so anytime you wanna play just give me a buzz ;)
[10:26] <juano> un_operateur: is it in the repos?
[10:26] <un_operateur> juano, si, in main
[10:26] <juano> un_operateur: great, ill try it :)
[10:26] <un_operateur> baastrup, not on linux tho
[10:26] <stefg> rohan: there are certain multimedia-keyboards which require the keytouch package to work. Not all key scancodes are recognized by the standard x input method, so that's where keytouch kicks in
[10:27] <baastrup> un_operateur: me meather
[10:27] <rohan> stefg: exactly. but on my keyboard, they worked out of box on ubuntu. i just want to know what ubuntu does, to make that possible
[10:27] <un_operateur> baastrup, I understand how they work but never implemented them on non-networking devices
[10:27] <illub> Is it just me, or does CPAN suck down cpu time like a walrus in heat?
[10:27] <stefg> rohan: have a look at the sources :-)
[10:27] <rohan> of ?
[10:28] <un_operateur> illub, CPAN as in the perl installer?
[10:28] <matthew> ok i used had bearl and 3d games working 3 days ago and edgy upgraded and now my driver "nvidia" wont work and had to change to driver "nv"
[10:28] <illub> Yep, the perl installer un_operateur
[10:28] <stefg> rohan: some xorg-input package
[10:28] <illub> Once gcc kicks in un_operateur everything is fine
[10:28] <baastrup> un_operateur: I would like to set it up on my labtop
[10:28] <n2diy> cpan doesn't install perl, Ubuntu does.
[10:28] <un_operateur> illub, well, when it's compiling stuff .. the system slows down .. but that's not it's fault, it's down to the C compiler .. usually gcc
[10:28] <rohan> ok
[10:28] <rohan> thanks a lot, stefg
[10:29] <illub> n2diy, no shit
[10:29] <juano> un_operateur: wheres it at? i installed it
[10:29] <un_operateur> baastrup, but does your switch/router support VLANs tho?
[10:29] <illub> is n2diy a bot?
[10:29] <illub> good point un_operateur
[10:29] <dougsko> illub: cpan takes ages to install anything for me, i almost always just go to cpan.org and download/compile the source myself. it takes like 1/10th the time
[10:29] <mnoir> n2diy: are you a bot!?
[10:29] <n2diy> illub: your the one that called it an intaller.
[10:29] <un_operateur> juano, errm, you can check what files come with it - dpkg -L packagename
[10:29] <I-kido> rioghal
[10:30] <Jordan_U> matthe1:  Are you using the Beta nvidia drivers or the stable ones, if the latter you need to disable composite
[10:30] <jgedeon> baastrup: is this what you are looking for?  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187195&highlight=vlan
[10:30] <n2diy> ! n2diy
[10:30] <juano> un_operateur: k thanks
[10:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about n2diy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:30] <illub> dougsko, I might just do that in the future
[10:30] <illub> No n2diy, I said the installer module within CPAN
[10:30] <un_operateur> illub, the hip, new kid on the block is CPANPLUS which is much leaner and faster and effecient and what-not
[10:30] <matthe1> jordan_U; i disabled it still being gay:(
[10:30] <illub> un_operateur, CPANPLUS eh?
[10:31] <illub> I'll go install that right now
[10:31] <illub> Thanks un_operateur
[10:31] <illub> =)
[10:31] <jano_> mplayer plugin doesn't play video for me... :( what should I do?
[10:31] <un_operateur> illub, yea, as in the next logical increment to a word :)
[10:31] <z0rz> Wahoo!
[10:31] <n2diy> illub: sorry no you didn't: <illub> Yep, the perl installer un_operateur
[10:31] <z0rz> <--- Travela_
[10:31] <Jordan_U> matthe1: When I say disable composit I don't mean Beryl, you need to edit your xorg.conf
[10:31] <illub> n2diy, I don't care you're on ignore now
[10:31] <porcho> hello. have you guys some experience with encore ENPWI-B-RECA pcmcia wireless card? does it do nice in linux?
[10:32] <nwf_> how can i create a shortcut that opens gnome menu ?
[10:32] <Enverex> When I view sites with Firefox that should have embedded sound I don't hear anything but the bar saying I need to use a plugin to view the content on the page isn't there either... so why can't I hear anything?
[10:32] <n2diy> illub: fine, if it helps newbies not get false information, I'm all for it.
[10:32] <z0rz> Got it fixed with a simple iptables -P INCOMING ACCEPT
[10:32] <z0rz> err INPUT ACCEPT*
[10:32] <illub> n2diy, I'm not a noob
[10:33] <illub> You're just an assclown
[10:33] <Jordan_U> matthe1: Add this to the end of your xorg.conf:
[10:33] <Jordan_U> Section "Extensions"
[10:33] <Jordan_U>         Option  "Composite" "Disable"
[10:33] <Jordan_U> EndSection
[10:33] <dwandke> little Question ...
[10:33] <un_operateur> n2diy, well, what do you term the CPAN shell then? if all it does is aid in installing perl modules? :)
[10:33] <illub> I've been using foss for ten years
[10:33] <illub> And I'm a unix system administrator
[10:33] <illub> So can it
[10:33] <dwandke> i have deleted a file from Desktop (move to Trash) can i restore this file ??? Were to find trash folder?
[10:33] <un_operateur> illub, n2diy ok ok, cut the hostility, there's no need for it at all :)
[10:33] <z0rz> if you're a unix sys admin why are you in ubuntu?
[10:34] <illub> Hahaha
[10:34] <illub> Good question z0rz
[10:34] <illub> Because it's good for the desktop
[10:34] <z0rz> :D
[10:34] <hakrzcode> MikeDetroit: Do you Yahoo?
[10:34] <z0rz> I guess :rolls:
[10:34] <illub> I don't use ubuntu for my servers z0rz
[10:34] <illub> I use debian
[10:34] <jgedeon> un_operateur: it's just a measurement of who has the bigger belt buckle.
[10:34] <n2diy> un_operateur: CPAN, comprhensive perl archiving network. Why tell people that where it gets installed, when it is already onboard?
[10:34] <z0rz> I'd use FreeBSD or OpenBSD for my servers
[10:34] <stefg> dwandke: there's a hidden .trash_USERNAME dir
[10:34] <illub> z0rz, I'm a big fan of OpenBSD
[10:34] <z0rz> but I'm testing Ubuntu out as a server.. and so far .. I'm not liking it
[10:34] <Jordan_U> dwandke: I don't remember because I don't use the default, but I believe it is somewhere ( bottom left? ) on one of the pannels
[10:34] <dwandke> How can i make it visible??
[10:35] <matthe11> jordan_U; i am on about xorg.conf
[10:35] <stefg> z0rz: culture shock?
[10:35] <illub> Yeah, I don't see it being a server  OS z0rz
[10:35] <erpo> !sound | erpo
[10:35] <ubotu> erpo: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[10:35] <CotRo|eR> Hi Guys, I have setup vnc with java tightvnc in apache web server, forwarded port 5900, configured firestarter but is still inaccesible outside :( any help ???
[10:35] <dwandke> Ah i`ve found it ;) Thanks Jordan_U  anf stefg
[10:35] <revers> Hello all just an auto connect
[10:35] <z0rz> stefg: Hmm?
[10:35] <namensindaus> hi there
[10:35] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode , sorry, did you ask if i yahoo?
[10:35] <illub> z0rz, have you ever used fw builder?
[10:35] <un_operateur> n2diy, errm, I've had to manually install CPAN a couple of times .. once when an older version just feel asleep and refused to respond .. another time when i did a minimal install .. so to some people, it's not always onboard :)
[10:35] <namensindaus> a new ubuntu user is born, ME :P
[10:35] <illub> Along with the pf filter in OBSD?
[10:35] <matthe11> jordan_U; i did disabled the in xorg
[10:36] <z0rz> nope.. is it rather nice?
[10:36] <Enverex> Anyone? Sound plugins for Mozilla? MP3 format?
[10:36] <dougsko> pf is sweet
[10:36] <illub> Yeah, it makes the process much better
[10:36] <illub> b/c pf config files suck
[10:36] <hakrzcode> MarkDetroit: yes, I did. If you do, then add me, I am not sure if you can private message here.
[10:36] <revers> have a nice day :]  very happy with my new Ubuntu and Beryl
[10:36] <z0rz> well I want to get geeky with iptables
[10:36] <stefg> z0rz: binary packages and frontends for this and that... miss your 'make world' ?
[10:36] <namensindaus> is there a german ubuntu channel?
[10:36] <stork> does software raid 0 in linux (2.6 kernel) give much of a performance increase? what does the increase depend on?
[10:36] <rabe> how do u register a nick here
[10:36] <z0rz> stefg Yes :D
[10:36] <CotRo|eR> Hi Guys, I have setup vnc with java tightvnc in apache web server, forwarded port 5900, configured firestarter but is still inaccesible outside :( any help ???
[10:36] <stork> !de > namensindaus
[10:36] <MasterLexx> yes Nameeater
[10:36] <Jordan_U> matthe11: What happens when you try to use the nvidia driver? Does X start at all?
[10:36] <z0rz> the binary packages are nice.. but I love compiling for maximum performance
[10:36] <un_operateur> z0rz, we have !firestarter on linux for iptables .. nice GUI helper program
[10:36] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode , btw, I just installed network-manager-gnome, but I don't know what to do with it or how to launch it.  I don't have IM on here yet, by my XChat client can do personal messages
[10:36] <stefg> z0rz: i knew that :-)... so that's just culture shock
[10:37] <n2diy> un_operateur: I'm not talking about cpan, I'm talking about perl. And I've never have used cpan, so that is as far as I can comment on it.
[10:37] <z0rz> un_operateur: I don't have any X windows installed..
[10:37] <Pennypacker> yes firestarter
[10:37] <revers> quit
[10:37] <music_> jordan_U; i did disabled the in xorg
[10:37] <z0rz> stefg: Yeah and I could make everything if I wanted.. but.. apt-get is right there....
[10:37] <I-kido> nwf
[10:37] <z0rz> and I think I was more patients when I was younger....
[10:37] <CotRo|eR> hey i got a problem with vnc in ubuntu, any help? its not connecting
[10:37] <un_operateur> n2diy, i think we were talking about the CPAN shell .. the perl installer kit/tool/shell :)
[10:38] <music_> jordan_U can u use msn
[10:38] <illub> Yeah, exactly
[10:38] <illub> The shell n2diy
[10:38] <illub> Not the archive itself
[10:38] <Jordan_U> music_: could you please stop changing nicks? It is confusing.
[10:38] <music_> i'm hacing lags
[10:38] <music_> i am crashing...
[10:38] <n2diy> un_operateur: illub, I've never heard of the shell, or used it, I always play with perl as it comes out of the box.
[10:38] <illub> n2diy, CPAN is a module installer for perl
[10:39] <illub> perl comes with it's own shell
[10:39] <illub> This is different
[10:39] <stork> does software raid 0 in linux (2.6 kernel) give much of a performance increase? what does the increase depend on?
[10:39] <illub> This just installs perl modules on the command line, so you don't have to go to cpan.org
[10:39] <n2diy> illub: is it in the repos, or do you have to get it from cpan.org?
[10:39] <stefg> stork: simple question, complex answer...
[10:39] <CotRo|eR> anyone knows the main channel for vnc problems????
[10:39] <illub> n2diy, it is in the repos
[10:39] <un_operateur> n2diy, it's not a full fledged shell like bash or dash or ash .. it's purely for making, compiling and installing perl modules
[10:39] <illub> n2diy, it ussually comes with ubuntu
[10:39] <namensindaus> mhhh, cannot talk in ubuntu-de
[10:39] <illub> un_operateur, exactly
[10:40] <illub> n2diy, try
[10:40] <illub> cpan
[10:40] <hakrzcode> MarkDetroit: You may have to register your nick with nickserver, before you can private message.
[10:40] <illub> on the command line
[10:40] <illub> it should come up
[10:40] <Bluedog> I want to have /home on its own partition, is this easily done?
[10:40] <metal03> OMG...  please help...  I need to install nvidia drivers and I can'T do it right...  anyone can help, I did follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia but I can't find all I need and I get error messages!
[10:40] <Jordan_U> music_: Try running: sudo modprobe nvidia-glx then restart X again
[10:40] <Bluedog> The auto installer on the livecd put it with /
[10:40] <CotRo|eR> !vnc
[10:40] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[10:40] <DrAk0> Enselic`, which muse youwas talking about?
[10:40] <Pennypacker> set "nv" to "nvidia"
[10:41] <MarkDetroit> hackerzcode, what's the syntax for nickserv.  been 10 years since I used IRC
[10:41] <Enselic`> DrAk0: your muse
[10:41] <Rvec> can someone tell me how to install ogg/vorbis?
[10:41] <n2diy> un_operateur: when I played wih perl, modules didn't exsist.
[10:41] <n2diy> illub: yep I got it, whadda ya know.
[10:41] <CotRo|eR> hey i got a problem with vnc in ubuntu, any help? its not connecting
[10:41] <un_operateur> n2diy, you've missed out on the greatest part of perl then :) modular programming and OO on perl are simply great
[10:41] <CotRo|eR> Hi Guys, I have setup vnc with java tightvnc in apache web server, forwarded port 5900, configured firestarter but is still inaccesible outside :( any help ???
[10:42] <Jordan_U> Rvec: It should be installed by default
[10:42] <Rvec> i thought so
[10:42] <MarkDetroit> hackerzcode , what's the syntax for nickserv.  been 10 years since I used IRC
[10:42] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode , what's the syntax for nickserv.  been 10 years since I used IRC
[10:42] <rioghal> MarkDetroit, /msg nickserv
[10:42] <n2diy> un_operateur: well, I've been thinking about playing with again, so I will check cpan. OO, as in open office?
[10:42] <music__> Jordan_U sudo modprobe nvidia-glx gets FATAL: Module nvidia_glx not found.
[10:42] <illub> msg NickServ register N
[10:42] <Rvec> but when i try to install icecast i get some other message
[10:43] <illub> msg NickServ auth N
[10:43] <rioghal> MarkDetroit, /msg nickserv help register
[10:43] <Rvec> configure: error: must have Ogg Vorbis v1.0 or above installed
[10:43] <un_operateur> n2diy, err no -- object oriented programming
[10:43] <hakrzcode> MarkDetroit: /msg NickServ register password
[10:43] <b_52Centos> any one using bitlbee ?
[10:43] <Jordan_U> music__: I think I got the module name wrong, try just "nvidia"
[10:44] <CotRo|eR> Hi Guys, I have setup vnc with java tightvnc in apache web server, forwarded port 5900, configured firestarter but is still inaccesible outside :( any help ???
[10:44] <CotRo|eR> Hi Guys, I have setup vnc with java tightvnc in apache web server, forwarded port 5900, configured firestarter but is still inaccesible outside :( any help ???
[10:44] <n2diy> un_operateur: ah, ic, I've heard of that, but that is the extent of my knowledge on the subject too.
[10:44] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode , Nick Registered
[10:44] <illub> my balls hurt
[10:44] <illub> just an fyi
[10:44] <Rvec> CotRo|eR apache needs port 80 forwarded
[10:45] <CotRo|eR> Rvec: forwarded port 80 too
[10:45] <MarkDetroit> hakrzcode , Accepting DCC is unresponsive.  Status: Waiting
[10:45] <un_operateur> n2diy, i'm surprised you havent come to use it -- it's universal, almost every decent language nowadays is object oriented or supports the concept
[10:45] <Rvec> CotRo|eR can you ping ? google.com or some other site?
[10:46] <CotRo|eR> Rvec: yes
[10:46] <noelferreira> RaLink RT2500 802.11g Cardbus/mini-PCI . i have to run dhclien ra0 every time i boot my system, if i try to configure /etc/network/interfaces the system hangs up. any idea?
[10:46] <illub> Later all
[10:46] <n2diy> un_operateur: I'm a hardware guy, mostly. I can code myself out of a wet paper bag, if I have to.
[10:46] <illub> Nice talking to you un_operateur
[10:46] <stefg> noelferreira: that's a timing problem and a known issue
[10:46] <Rvec> CotRo|eR can you ping the server from another pc?
[10:47] <porcho> hello. have you guys some experience with encore ENPWI-B-RECA pcmcia wireless card? does it do nice in linux?
[10:47] <noelferreira> steelb, what should i do stefg ?
[10:47] <CotRo|eR> Rvec: yes the website works fine - http://cotroler.no-ip.org try it out
[10:48] <PwndMopar> who wants to fuck me??
[10:48] <Rvec> what's the problem?
[10:48] <un_operateur> !ops
[10:48] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[10:48] <Enverex> PwndMopar, How much do you charge?
[10:48] <Bluedog> hey guys, is there anyway to split /home off from the main ubuntu install? The installer put it onto the same as /
[10:48] <IndyGunFreak> i'm having trouble getting frostwire installed on my laptop, i get no error messages, i just get an hourglass, then it goes away when i choose it in the menu. Ubuntu 6,10
[10:48] <Ne0> evening all
[10:48] <Bluedog> I want it on its own part
[10:48] <CotRo|eR> Rvec: go to: http://cotroler.no-ip.org/tightvnc
[10:48] <Enverex> Bluedog, Sure, just move it somewhere else then mount it as home on the other drive
[10:48] <stefg> noelferreira: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=RaLink+RT2500+ubuntu&btnG=Google-Suche&meta=
[10:48] <rioghal> Ok, who let the babies in here?
[10:49] <Bluedog> mount it as home in the fstab right? :)
[10:49] <CotRo|eR> Rvec: try to login with a badd password, suppose it gives 'password error' but it doesn;t connect :/
[10:49] <Bluedog> Enverex: or if I do it once in terminal will it be remembered..
[10:49] <Rvec> ah i see
[10:50] <Rvec> does it have any log?
[10:50] <Rvec> some errors?
[10:50] <CotRo|eR> Rvec: dont think so
[10:50] <Enverex> Bluedog, You need to copy what is in /home to the partition you want it on then set /dev/whatever as /home
[10:51] <Bluedog> Enverex: I'm a bit new to this, how do I do that?
[10:51] <Bluedog> umount home, then remount in the new location/
[10:51] <Bluedog> or do I have to go via fstab and reload the fstab
[10:51] <Enverex> Bluedog, no... erm, I don't really have time atm
[10:51] <Bluedog> ok, I'll google it
[10:51] <Bluedog> ta
[10:51] <CotRo|eR> Rvec: any help then? i forwarded port 5900 must i forward another port? btw this works fine on another local domain pc
[10:52] <Rvec> googling
[10:52] <Recon69> hmm, my ubuntu system become unstable, the gnome desktop has started crashing when I run some apps
[10:52] <MrPacific> sorry about that, that was so wierd
[10:53] <un_operateur> CotRo|eR, IIRC .. each VNC session uses it's own port in addition to 5900 .. e.g. VNC session #1 uses 5901.. #2 uses 5902, etc
[10:53] <MrPacific> I accidently opened two copies of xchat
[10:53] <CotRo|eR> un_operateur: so is that the problem?
[10:53] <Rvec> so you need to forward 5001
[10:54] <un_operateur> CotRo|eR, well, i'm only 80% sure that is the case .. please verify .. and if thats the case, then all the VNC ports need to be forwarded ..
[10:55] <CotRo|eR> un_operateur: if i forward ports 5900, 5901, 5902 5903 5904 and 5905 is enough?
[10:55] <PwndMopar> hello
[10:55] <un_operateur> CotRo|eR, actually why don't you verify .. get one of the LAN clients to connect upto the VNC server and then monitor network connections on the server via netstat
[10:56] <un_operateur> CotRo|eR, if you are supporting upto 5 VNC sessions, that should be enough, yes
[10:56] <CotRo|eR> un_operateur: can i monitor it by firestarter?
[10:56] <un_operateur> CotRo|eR, errm, I'm not very conversant with firestarter but i assume it can tell you
[10:57] <Caplain> i keep getting this error: ./configure: line 4123: bindir: command not found
[10:57] <CotRo|eR> un_operateur: i checked it it used ports: 80 + 5900 :|
[10:58] <Qerub> Do (popular) packages in universe ever get security updates? Via backports or so.
[10:58] <Enverex> No matter what I try I can't get sound to work inside Firefox on embedded sounds. What should I be doing?
[10:59] <Qerub> I'm pondering about installing Ubuntu on my server but a lot of software I use is in universe.
[10:59] <n2diy_> Qerub: I would think the do on Dapper, that is what LTS is all about.
[10:59] <un_operateur> CotRo|eR, check netstat in addition to firestarter ..  make the connection and then at a terminal -- netstat -panto
[10:59] <seba_> Elo!
[10:59] <Qerub> n2diy_: AFAIK, LTS made no promises regaring universe. But I'll try googling some more.
[10:59] <CotRo|eR> un_operateur: will do that tnx cheers
[10:59] <seba_> anybody from PL?
[10:59] <Qerub> regarding*
[10:59] <stefg> Qerub: universe is officially 'unsupported' that means you might get updates, or not
[11:00] <un_operateur> !pl | seba_
[11:00] <ubotu> seba_: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[11:00] <avalon_> Is there a way to tell my linksys router to only a specific IP address access to the internet ONLY? Like just port 80?
[11:00] <plagerism> Is it possible to control an inactive window and send keystrokes to it from within a script??
[11:00] <plagerism>  I dont need anything complicated
[11:00] <plagerism>  Just need to send a couple of keystrokes
[11:00] <plagerism>  At a given interval
[11:00] <n2diy_> Qerub: ah, I missed the part about universe, don't know about that.
[11:00] <philuk86> does anyone know why when creating a debian package Im not allowed to have hardlinks in the source tree?
[11:00] <xpan> hi!
[11:01] <Qerub> stefg: Yes, I've understood that, but not being an Ubuntu-ist I don't know how it works in practise.
[11:01] <snower> irc://irc.abjects.net/stfu
[11:01] <Bluedog> whats the sudo command for gui apps?
[11:01] <Bluedog> :D
[11:01] <Alakazamz0r> name root # uptime
[11:01] <Alakazamz0r> 15:52:55 up 292 days, 19:54,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00
[11:01] <crot> gksudo
[11:01] <Alakazamz0r> pwn4g3
[11:01] <Bluedog> trhanks
[11:01] <Bluedog> thanks*
[11:01] <gkjones> gksudo
[11:01] <CotRo|eR> un_operateur: i have tons of connections, how do i know which ones are from localhost?
[11:01] <un_operateur> philuk86, this is only a guess -- but i assume it's because a lot of the files get moved about and packaged and whatnot, doing so may break the links
[11:02] <Qerub> Say, phpmyadmin must be pretty popular on servers, but is still in universe. (I guess that's because its PHP codebase must be full of potential security problems.)
[11:02] <un_operateur> CotRo|eR, the ones from localhost originate from 127.0.0.1 .. so you can grep for that -- netstat -panto | grep 127.0.0.1
[11:02] <stefg> Qerub: k, but really screaming bugs are normally fixed, if not in the standard repos then usually a third party takes the effort
[11:02] <xpan> hi, is it possible to change the default encoding of Evoltution (not just the outgoing mail)
[11:02] <Qerub> stefg: Okay, that's good to know. Thanks.
[11:02] <CotRo|eR> tnx
[11:03] <n2diy_> Qerub: you get better answers from the php folks on that.
[11:03] <philuk86> un_operateur: do you know how i can get around it, are there any helper scripts?
[11:03] <Qerub> n2diy_: Well, my point was just that if issues like that should stop be from running Ubuntu.
[11:04] <un_operateur> philuk86, why don't you make copies of the linked files rather than have then linked?
[11:04] <un_operateur> s/then/them/
[11:04] <n2diy_> Qerub: Ubuntu can't police everything that runs on it, there are better places to get those answers.
[11:05] <CotRo|eR> un_operateur: is there some way to open all ports temporarily to see if that is the problem ?
[11:05] <philuk86> un_operateur: well i don't its the way some of the upstream devs do things for important headers and such
[11:05] <un_operateur> CotRo|eR, you mean drop all the iptables rules?
[11:05] <metal03> Hi there, I'm trying to install nvidia drivers but the HowTo from here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia does not completely work...  when I type sudo nvidia-glx-config enable it says : "Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed the nvidia driver for your running kernel."
[11:05] <Qerub> n2diy_: Well, compare with stable Debian that will incorporate possible security patches.
[11:05] <CotRo|eR> un_operateur: think so
[11:06] <crot> you can do iptables-save > tmp_files; iptables -F; iptables-restore < tmp_file
[11:06] <metal03> me?
[11:06] <crot> CotRo|eR:
[11:06] <un_operateur> philuk86, errm, i'm not too sure, i dont have too much experience with debian packaging .. perhaps this is better asked in #debian or a related dev channel
[11:07] <CotRo|eR> tnc crot
[11:07] <crot> obviously you do your testing between iptables -F and iptables-restore
[11:07] <n2diy_> Qerub: I thought Debian was slow with their updates? But I guess patches are a different story?
[11:08] <CotRo|eR> wait, crot, is that all the commands to drop iptables or to drop and resore?
[11:08] <Qerub> n2diy_: Indeed, they are pretty slow... But that's another issue. :)
[11:08] <crot> CotRo|eR: to drop and restore
[11:08] <un_operateur> n2diy, they're ok with the urgent updates .. it's just the new revisions on software that they aren't too keen on bleeding-edge .. which is a good thing
[11:08] <crot> so you do the first two, then you do the third to bring the rules back up
[11:08] <n2diy_> Qerub: Roger that.
[11:08] <crot> You'll need to be root as well
[11:09] <metal03> Evilgold : when I type sudo nvidia-glx-config enable it says : "Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed the nvidia driver for your running kernel."
[11:09] <Qerub> I'm running Debian ATM and I'm getting pretty tired of all the backports I need...
[11:09] <Qerub> Anyway, thanks everybody!
[11:09] <un_operateur> MetaBookfoziS, are you following the !nvidia wiki ?
[11:09] <MetaBookfoziS> i don'T think, un_operateur:)
[11:10] <evilgold> metal03 try changing the driver manually
[11:10] <metal03> Evilgold : How?
[11:10] <un_operateur> !nvidia | MetaBookfoziS , make sure the driver is installed first
[11:10] <ubotu> MetaBookfoziS , make sure the driver is installed first: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:10] <evilgold> metal03 edit the xorg.conf file and change the Driver from nv to nvidia
[11:10] <evilgold> then restart x
[11:10] <evilgold> if it doesnt start change it back to nv
[11:10] <MetaBookfoziS> un_operateur > youmistyped
[11:10] <CotRo|eR> crot, when i typed iptables -F whole system jammed !
[11:11] <un_operateur> MetaBookfoziS, oops, sorry .. again lol
[11:11] <Enverex> Can anyone tell me what I need to do to get embedded sounds in webpages, i.e. MP3 files, to play in Firefox?
[11:11] <un_operateur> MetaBookfoziS, my bad.. forgive me if i roused you from your sleep :p
[11:11] <MetaBookfoziS> not problem:)
[11:11] <Kristian> enverex -> it's something with <embed> i think, a sec.
[11:11] <un_operateur> !nvidia | metal03, make sure the driver is installed first
[11:11] <ubotu> metal03, make sure the driver is installed first: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:11] <alecjw> Enverex: do oyu have the appropriate gstreamer plugins to play mp3s
[11:11] <pike_> evilgold: moxilla-mplayer is what i prefer
[11:11] <evilgold> metal03, run sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:12] <metal03> Evilgold : ok, I'm really new to Linux so you'll have to help me a little...  where can I find xorg.conf?  And how do I restart x?  heheh
[11:12] <pike_> Enverex: wrong nick  ^ see above.
[11:12] <Lynoure> metal03: you can try  locate xorg.conf
[11:12] <kristian_> can somebody tell me howto add multiverse and universe source list under /etc/apt/sources.list file
[11:12] <Kristian> enverex - sorry, didn't read the right thing :O You can use "EasyUbuntu" to configure it automatically ;) You can find it at ubuntu forums
[11:12] <sivik> what kind of fps do ppl with a ati xpress 200m when running glxgears -printfps
[11:12] <un_operateur> !multiverse | Kristian
[11:12] <ubotu> Kristian: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[11:13] <kristian_> i am trying to install gnucash
[11:13] <Lynoure> metal03: but I think it is /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:13] <evilgold> metal03, hit control + W to search for Section "Device"
[11:13] <evilgold> metal03, under that section is the Driver
[11:13] <Kristian> un_operateur, for me ? :S
[11:13] <evilgold> metal03, then hit control + O to save the file
[11:13] <pike_> Enverex: cant spell today appearantly.  if mp3's play locally already just sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer  as long as they havent changed it in edgy
[11:13] <nemo_work> yay. ubuntu working with broadcom and WPA-PSK
[11:13] <nemo_work> much happiness
[11:13] <nemo_work> wifi-radar rules
[11:13] <Enverex> pike_, I have Mp3 support, mplayer mozilla plugin and everything else installed so I'm just lost why i doesn't work
[11:13] <XBillGates> m|cr05h4ft 0\/\//\5 j00.
[11:14] <sivik> nemo_work, having the ability to run something other than a wep with the broadcom firmware?
[11:14] <nemo_work> sivik: yep
[11:14] <sivik> nemo_work, how did you get that to happen
[11:14] <pike_> Enverex: in addressbar of firefox   "about:plugins"  shows the mplayer plugin?
[11:14] <nemo_work> *shrug* just enabled Use WPA in wifi-radar
[11:14] <sivik> wow
[11:14] <nemo_work> oh. and put in wext as the driver
[11:14] <sivik> wext?
[11:14] <nemo_work> I must say it'd be nice if wifi-radar offered some hints there
[11:15] <nemo_work> got that from wpa_supplicant
[11:15] <nemo_work> I also setup wpa_supplicant
[11:15] <sivik> sweetness
[11:15] <sivik> so i need to setup the wpa_supplicant
[11:15] <Enverex> pike_, yes, and a lot of others, I wonder if it's the Totem-plugin breaking it
[11:15] <nemo_work> using a config I got off a french ubuntu site (google gives me french results since that's how I have it localised)
[11:15] <Kristian> Guys, i have a problem after installing the nvidia drivers, my menu labels disappears, untill i hover them - look - http://home.oellegaard.com/noLabels.png
[11:15] <nemo_work> sivik: I don't think it requires wpa_supplicant, although it uses it
[11:15] <music_> Jordan_U; it failerd
[11:15] <alecjw> Enverex: are you sure you've allowd it enough time to download it?
[11:15] <sivik> did you follow some sort of howto?
[11:16] <nemo_work> sivik: no
[11:16] <music_> Jordan_U; i msged u
[11:16] <Enverex> alecjw, yes
[11:16] <fliptop> hi all - has anyone ever tried booting ubuntu to a sata drive while another ide drive is connected to the same machine?
[11:16] <pike_> Enverex: i remove all things totem on my system after install so im not sure if itd cause a conflict or not.
[11:16] <nemo_work> sivik: would you like the sample wpa_supplicant.conf I got off the french site?
[11:16] <Enverex> pike_, The whole removal of "ubuntu desktop" looks a bit ominous
[11:17] <alecjw> fliptop: nope, but i don't see what could go wrong. what's the probelm?
[11:17] <kristian_> wow to the one who gave me all the links
[11:17] <sivik> is it in english?
[11:17] <pike_> Enverex: bah its just a metapackage no worries
[11:17] <kristian_> now i have done it - myself :D
[11:17] <nemo_work> sivik: yeah. well, the conf is :)
[11:17] <nemo_work> mostly
[11:17] <sivik> what is a good way to test fglrx
[11:17] <sivik> lol
[11:17] <Enverex> pike_, but wont that make all other packages orphans?
[11:17] <nemo_work> sivik: basically 'cause it is a config file :-p
[11:17] <fliptop> akecjw:  here's the error message i get:  /bin/sh can't access tty; job control turned off - then it dumps me to a shell
[11:17] <sivik> nemo_work, i will give you my email in pm
[11:17] <rogue780> does anyone know of a way to fullscreen the vncviewer?
[11:17] <alecjw> Enverex, pike_but if Enverexwants updates for the ubuntu desktop, not having ubuntu-desktop is bad
[11:18] <nemo_work> sivik: meh. I'll link you to it on my website
[11:18] <nemo_work> one sec
[11:18] <Enverex> pike_, I ran firefox from the console and it is indeed Totem trying to play it, but no errors or messages as to why I dont hear anything
[11:18] <fliptop> alecjw:  i've tried googling, and have found others who had the problem, but can't find a solution.
[11:18] <pike_> Enverex: no. the only problem it might cause is when you distupgrade to fawny or whats his name. i wouldnt worry about it
[11:18] <CotRo|eR> un_operateur: tried everything shit same error :|
[11:18] <un_operateur> Enverex, ubuntu-desktop exists only to bring in other packages and aid in upgrading, it can safely be removed later
[11:18] <evilgold> metal03 control alt backspace to restart X. Remeber the command to use nano and edit xorg.conf though incase it doesnt work, you might be left with only a console
[11:19] <pike_> !metapackage
[11:19] <sivik> what is your website
[11:19] <ubotu> A meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.
[11:19] <alecjw> fliptop: it seems as if it's trying to boot from the wrong drive. have you moved your drives round since the install?
[11:19] <nemo_work> sivik: http://m8y.org/tmp/wpa_supplicant.conf
[11:19] <un_operateur> CotRo|eR, did you try tearing down all the iptables .. did that help?
[11:19] <Enverex> I know what a metapackage is
[11:19] <shack> hey guys. how can I manage which commands are available throught /bin/rbash shell?
[11:19] <CotRo|eR> un_operateur: yes still with problem :|
[11:19] <nemo_work> sivik: wpa_supplicant -Dwext -ieth1 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
[11:19] <pike_> Enverex: sorry did mean to condescend :)
[11:20] <fliptop> alecjw:  no, the sata is primary, and the ide is secondary to the dvd-rw.  it's visible in bios, and i double-checked the boot order
[11:20] <pike_> Enverex: didnt
[11:20] <fliptop> alecjw:  excuse me, the ide is slave to the dvd-rw which is second primary - got that mixed up
[11:20] <un_operateur> CotRo|eR, well, then the iptables arent contributing to the problem; it lies elsewhere
[11:20] <Enverex> pike_, Totem wont play MP3 files when I try and load them manually...
[11:21] <philuk86> what suite and codename do i need to use for a local edgy repository?
[11:21] <music__> Jordan_U; i msged u
[11:21] <pike_> Enverex: yah i had problems with totem in like warty and havent used it since i probably wouldnt be much help with that
[11:21] <alecjw> fliptop: i can't think of any suggestions. sorry. except one. if you feel confident enought, have a mess around with /etc/fstab. it automatically identifies partitions by uuid, whihc changes when you move the drves around (i think), so try using /dev/hd* etc
[11:21] <dymbol> hello
[11:21] <host`> question, how do I stop ubuntu from loading services on boot?
[11:22] <pluto> h
[11:22] <t3dk> hey, is there any scripts (php, etc) for apache2 where i can make an upload page like when you browse to upload something
[11:22] <fliptop> alecjw:  thanks for the tip, i'll muck around with it tomorrow.  i was hoping it was something in the bios and wouldn't have to muck around w/ fstab.
[11:22] <CotRo|eR> un_operateur: what could be the problem? :S
[11:23] <RedGhost> hey
[11:23] <kristian_> hey can someone tell my installed program gnucash doesnt show up in programs
[11:23] <kristian_> why*
[11:23] <RedGhost> I have two fat32 partitions and neither show on /mnt or /media, what gives
[11:23] <fliptop> t3dk:  dunno about php, but you could use the perl CGI module, available from search.cpan.org
[11:24] <t3dk> fliptop, can you tell me the exact link
[11:24] <Vluid> l
[11:25] <fliptop> t3dk:  http://search.cpan.org/~lds/CGI.pm-3.25/
[11:25] <RedGhost> any idea how to get my two partitions to show, they arent listed on /mnt
[11:25] <t3dk> thanks
[11:25] <sivik> RedGhost, either df -l or fdisk -l
[11:25] <kristian_> hey can someone tell my installed program gnucash doesnt show up in programs
[11:25] <sivik> RedGhost, try df -l
[11:25] <kristian_> why*
[11:26] <RedGhost> got it thanks
[11:26] <sivik> RedGhost, yw
[11:26] <fliptop> t3dk:  don't forget you have to set enctype="multipart/form-data" in your html form tag!
[11:26] <n2diy> kristian_: what happens if you type gnucash in a terminal?
[11:26] <Enverex> What is the difference between gstreamer-plugins-ugly and gstreamer-plugins-ugly-multiverse? They both seem to be identical
[11:26] <cherva> i have a small problem i have a dir on my desktop witch is root's property how can i delete it fast ?
[11:26] <sivik> cherva, sudo rm -rR foldername
[11:26] <fliptop> cherva:  sudo rm -rf foldername
[11:27] <metal03> How do you restart x again?
[11:27] <kristian_> n2diy: the program opens :D
[11:27] <sivik> ctrl-alt-backspace
[11:27] <cherva> ctrl + alt + backspace
[11:27] <fliptop> metal03:  startx
[11:27] <kristian_> n2diy: but how do i get it in the "start menu"?
[11:27] <sivik> kristian_, kde or gnome?
[11:28] <kristian_> n2diy: gnome :)
[11:28] <n2diy> kristian_: right click on applications, and then edit menus?
[11:28] <den_> !root
[11:28] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:29] <katabatic> SOMEBODY please help me figure out why it's not connecting to the router with DHCP automatically on boot, on wired network. I can tell it to connect manually, and it connects, but not automatically at boot!
[11:29] <kristian_> n2diy: but its not under office? :/
[11:29] <sivik> katabatic, cause you probably don't have it set up correctly
[11:29] <kristian_> n2diy: it should be
[11:29] <katabatic> k
[11:29] <katabatic> then how?
[11:29] <n2diy> kristian_: can't you put it there with edit menus?
[11:30] <kristian_> n2diy: no sadly not
[11:30] <sivik> katabatic, you have to edit a file but i can't ever remember which one
[11:30] <katabatic> I have installed some packages
[11:30] <katabatic> that's what caused it probably
[11:30] <sivik> katabatic, its a .conf file
[11:30] <katabatic> don't remember what
[11:30] <katabatic> can't figure out
[11:30] <sivik> katabatic, and it seems everyone is being quite
[11:30] <evilgold> metal03, did you get it working?
[11:30] <n2diy> kristian_: ah, left click on apps, and try add/remove.
[11:31] <RedGhost> if df -l isnt listing my two other main partitions, (windows and dos) which are fat partitions how can I get them visible (need some files from them, they are both fat and not ntfs)
[11:31] <peter__> Hello all, good evening from Spain
[11:31] <stefg> !mountwindows | RedGhost
[11:31] <ubotu> RedGhost: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[11:31] <peter__> I need some help with xorg.conf  is anyone able to spend 5 minutes with me please?
[11:32] <metal03> Evilgold : Nope...  I'm about to kill someone...!!
[11:32] <stefg> !fixres | peter__
[11:32] <ubotu> peter__: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:32] <evilgold> not me i hope
[11:32] <metal03> noep
[11:32] <n2diy> ! ask | peter__
[11:32] <ubotu> peter__: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:32] <metal03> Evilgold : I get a diffrent error message dough now!
[11:32] <evilgold> what is it now metal03
[11:33] <andreasw> hi
[11:33] <Enverex> pike_, Well got Totem to play stuff on its own now, still no sound with Firefox though. Is there any way to prioritise plugins? :(
[11:33] <kristian_> n2diy: i dont get it, what should i do next, GnuCash is not under add/remove either? :/
[11:33] <n2diy> kristian_: I don't know, ask again?
[11:34] <Vluid> l
[11:34] <peter__> So here's the question. Nvidia drivers installed through automatix2 on edgy eft. As soon as I restart I get a blank screen....No cursor, no text, an dI don't hear any bongos. If I edit xorg.cong with Vim in recovery mode, then I can replace nvidia with nv and it all works. Any ideas?
[11:34] <Vluid> l
[11:34] <metal03> Evilgold : Says that my X configuration has been altered and that the script will not proceed automaticaly
[11:34] <kristian_> n2diy: well thx for helping me
[11:34] <n2diy> kristian_: nada
[11:34] <n2diy> ! automatix | peter__
[11:34] <ubotu> peter__: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:35] <evilgold> metal03, try using automatix i guess
[11:35] <peter__> Well, I also installed via the comunity pages, and got the same result
[11:35] <n2diy> ! automatix | evilgold
[11:35] <ubotu> evilgold: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:36] <BluE|> hi guys, in gparted, can you get free space out from between an ntfs and an ext3 partition?
[11:36] <kristian_> Someone knows how to get an app, which is not under add/remove and is not in the apps menu, into the apps menu?
[11:36] <BluE|> ive got some in there 'stuck' as it were..
[11:36] <music_> Jordan_U; i msged u
[11:36] <stefg> peter__: you are the not the first one with exactly the same automatix problem today....
[11:36] <adaran> a friend of mine is getting errors with 'untrusted packages' from the official repositories. the package keys for ubuntu are the same as mine (as reported by apt-key list), what else could be the issue?
[11:37] <adaran> i remember having this problem myself, finding a simple fix and then forgetting about the solution, rather frustrating
[11:37] <flo> anyone know how can i tell tvtime to remember the 16:10 mate that i'vd aplied when it restarts?
[11:37] <mnoir> kristian_: right click the bar abd then click edit menu ?
[11:38] <mnoir> abd=and
[11:38] <n2diy> mnoir: we just went there, didn't work.
[11:38] <mnoir> oic...
[11:38] <peter__> Stefg, I dont think that it's necesaraly a problem with the automatix script per se. It also happens on a manula install, bein gcareful that all the kernel sources match, and also gave this result with the envy script.
[11:38] <n2diy> mnoir: Though, maybe you have a better understanding of it than I do?
[11:39] <kristian_> mnoir: i just had the same discussion with n2diy, and it isnt in the "edit menu"
[11:39] <music_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1231/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1233/ can anu find my proble of it not loading driver "nvidia"
[11:39] <mnoir> n2diy: naa - i use kde but on my gnome system it seemed to start to get me where ya wanted to go...
[11:39] <senorJ> Anyone know how to get Java working in non packaged version of FireFox 2.0 under dapper ?
[11:39] <Vluid> l
[11:40] <mnoir> kr - what isnt in edit menu - gnucash?  so add it using the nice add button?
[11:40] <bwrtyurt76> You can dowbload the binarires fromm SUN.......
[11:40] <stefg> peter__: ok... i had strange problems with teh 8xx-series driver, too. But i decided not to investigate that further, but just took the recent 9xx series installer from nvidia.com and they disappeared
[11:40] <jordo23_> un_operateur: You there?
[11:40] <teer2> hi all - question about the ubuntu distribution: Are there software packages, like games, that are distributed through Ubuntu that come pre-packaged and known to work with the specific distro version where it is obtained?  Or are games always downloaded through third-party sources and wedged into the OS?
[11:41] <n2diy> teer2: Plenty of Ubuntu games to play.
[11:41] <stefg> !games | teer2
[11:41] <ubotu> teer2: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[11:41] <music__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1231/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1233/ can anu find my proble of it not loading driver "nvidia"
[11:42] <kyncani> !packages | teer2
[11:42] <ubotu> teer2: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[11:42] <teer2> n2diy: but are they obtained through official ubuntu channels, or do you have to download them through third parties (like websites)
[11:42] <TheGateKeeper> teer2: most linux software is installed from the repos, including games, that is certainly the easiest way to install software
[11:42] <adaran> teer2, or roll your own packages and put them in a local repos =)
[11:42] <teer2> ubotu: Thank you, that's the information I was seeking.
[11:42] <teer2> TheGateKeeper: Thank you.
[11:43] <kyncani> !botsnack
[11:43] <TheGateKeeper> teer2: yw :-)
[11:43] <ubotu> Yum!
[11:43] <n2diy> teer2: I have sixteen games here, that came with the basic install. What is available in the Ubuntu repos, I don't know about.
[11:43] <senorJ> bwrtyurt76: yeah I tried that i think - have you managed to get it working?
[11:43] <mama> hoi
[11:43] <kristian_> mnoir: well it worked i just dont get why it just did this automatic
[11:43] <teer2> TheGateKeeper: ubotu is very smart
[11:43] <kristian_> mnoir and mnoir, thx for the help
[11:44] <kyncani> !ubotu > teer2
[11:44] <TheGateKeeper> teer2: it's a bot :-)
[11:44] <kristian_> mnoir and mnoir*
[11:44] <kristian_> fuck mnoir and n2diy!
[11:44] <teer2> TheGateKeeper: :-)
[11:44] <teer2> TheGateKeeper: Better living through technology.
[11:44] <mwe> !language | krampo
[11:44] <ubotu> krampo: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:44] <PriceChild> !language | kristian_
[11:44] <ubotu> kristian_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:44] <mnoir> kristian_: np but yer not my type
[11:44] <mwe> !language | kristian_
[11:44] <TheGateKeeper> teer2:  yeah :-)
[11:45] <n2diy> mnoir: :)
[11:45] <mnoir> n2diy: is the remaining issue why it didn't get on a menu by itself?
[11:45] <TheGateKeeper> teer2: there are other mechanisms available, from a repos someone has put together (if you trust them) compile from source, it's even possible to use rpm but those don't always work
[11:45] <n2diy> mnoir: apparently.
[11:46] <music___> !language | ubotu
[11:46] <ubotu> ubotu: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:46] <music___> lol
[11:46] <kristian_> mnoir: why am i not youre type, im trying to sound friendly but i am not the good at english so its hard to understand what ure saying
[11:46] <mnoir> if he was polite I woulda told him that sometimes packages dont  get on menus or go to some godawful place and get over it and add it where you like :)
[11:46] <stefg> !botabuse | Music_
[11:46] <ubotu> Music_: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[11:47] <music___> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1231/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1233/ can anu find my proble of it not loading driver "nvidia"
[11:47] <music___> why am i keep disconnecting
[11:47] <mnoir> kristian_: in that case, you may want to understand english slang before you use it - sometimes it can be offensive   :)
[11:48] <kristian_> mnoir: well sry
[11:48] <mnoir> :)
[11:48] <music___> please any one?http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1231/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1233/ can any find my problem of it not loading driver "nvidia"
[11:48] <n2diy> music_ , I don't know, but it has been happening to me all after noon. Even my ISP joined the fun, and pulled the plug on my connection.
[11:48] <stefg> music__: edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and replace the 'nv' in section drivers  with nvidia
[11:49] <music___> tryed
[11:49] <music___> it used to work with nvidia
[11:49] <GStubbs43> Does anyone know of a program that will automatically remove albumart from all of my mp3 tags?
[11:49] <music___> wont work
[11:49] <costalivan> hello friends
[11:49] <costalivan> I'm using ubuntu 6.10
[11:49] <costalivan> with kernel
[11:49] <ubuntian> re-install all restricted modules
[11:49] <chillywilly> in edgy how can I see the init script messages but not the kernel message noise?
[11:49] <costalivan> 2.6.17.10
[11:49] <costalivan> and I have problems with kismet
[11:49] <mwe> music___: your nick is annoying. works bad with tab completion
[11:50] <costalivan> doesn't work
[11:50] <ubuntian> music that was for you
[11:50] <costalivan> anybody has problems with kismet ?
[11:50] <chillywilly> this is on a server box and I don't want to see all the kernel messages, just whether certain services have booted up or not
[11:50] <jgedeon> music___: it looks like it is loaded but you need to adjust your monitor rates in your xorg.conf
[11:50] <mnoir> chillywilly: that level of filter may be difficult
[11:50] <mwe> music___: can you please type /nick mr_music or something?
[11:50] <dm> Any good app to see what the heck is taking so much space ? i have 21 gigs used on my laptop, but i have no idea where its all going
[11:50] <senorJ> Can I run two versions of Firefox under dapper ? the packaged and my current non packaged version (2.0)
[11:50] <costalivan> by the way my network card is an ath0
[11:50] <music____> me?
[11:50] <chillywilly> mnoir: debian/ubuntu used to work like that
[11:50] <mnoir> dm: look at du
[11:51] <kane77> does mplayer plugin for firefox work well?? I installed it but it doesnt seem to work.. i hear audio, but no video.. what can be cause??
[11:51] <n2diy> dm: du
[11:51] <mzanfardino> I have an edgy server I built in vmware that I've recently moved to another vmware server.  When I load the server in vmware on the new server, the networking is not configured.  How do I manually reconfigure my network via cli?
[11:51] <mnoir> chillywilly: oh - I see - i was not aware
 re-install all restricted modules      me?
[11:51] <stefg> !baobab | dm
[11:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about baobab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:51] <dm> mnoir and the numbs represent MBs?
[11:52] <n2diy> stefg: you feeling ok? :)
[11:52] <mnoir> dm: man du - I think you may want the -h flag (human) :)
[11:52] <jgedeon> music____: what kind of monitor do you have?  Make and model.
[11:52] <music____> its flat panel
[11:52] <dm> mnoir much better thanks
[11:52] <mnoir> dm: the default may be blocks
[11:52] <stefg> n2diy: that depends :-)
[11:52] <dm> mnoir it is, was just looking at that
[11:52] <dm> mnoir any app for a UI look at it
[11:52] <mnoir> dm: yeah - -h is a fairly new parm on many cmds
[11:52] <lifepositive> if I have a notebook that contains XP! Can I install Ubuntu on it as well?  Do i have to partition the hard drive before XP and Ubuntu get installed on it?
[11:53] <music____> dell
[11:53] <n2diy> stefg: never mind, I didn't understand what you and the bot were doing.
[11:53] <mwe> music____: what's going on? do you have all those annoying nicks, music_ music__ music___ and music____?
[11:53] <ubuntian> ntfs-3g ok reading and writing, but after mounting with truecrypt cannot R/W except as a root?
[11:53] <music____> i'm crashing
[11:53] <music____> i cant keep connected
[11:53] <mwe> muscic I see
[11:53] <music____> srry everyone
[11:53] <mnoir> dm: i have never looked - probably is - i remember once seeing a great graphic display that made different color and size blocks for different sized dirs and files
[11:53] <mwe> music well in that case I guess you can't help it
[11:54] <stefg> n2diy: pm was asking for a disk-stat utitility. this used to be called baobab, but obviously changed the name
[11:54] <dm> mnoir i think thats baobob
[11:54] <mnoir> dm: i think it was in MEPIS a long time ago
[11:54] <music____> well my video card is using dvi flat panel
[11:54] <mnoir> baobob??
[11:55] <stefg> !baobab
[11:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about baobab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:55] <Vluid_> l
[11:55] <music_______> well my video card is using dvi flat panel
[11:55] <music_______> and my driver "nvidia" used to work
[11:55] <mnoir> dm: i think the tool i was talking about was a kde tool
[11:55] <dm> mnoir hold on think i found something
[11:55] <music_______> befor i upgraded 3 days ago
[11:55] <mnoir> baobob seems to be gnomecentric
[11:56] <stefg>  apt-cache search baobab
[11:56] <scoob> anyone here in the united states?
[11:56] <stefg> baobab - graphical tool to analyse directory trees
[11:56] <dm> mnoir any idea what gnome-utils include?
[11:56] <kane77> !mplayer-plugin
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mplayer-plugin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:56] <mnoir> dm:  no but synaptic will tell you
[11:56] <jinx099> scoob: I am
[11:56] <mwe> music_______: in ten minutes your nick will be music_______________________________ ;)
[11:56] <stefg> strange... dapper knows it, but not ubotu
[11:56] <n2diy> mwe: music keeps getting drop off system, and everytime she/he logs back in, another _ is tagged on to her nick.
[11:56] <Vluid_> l
[11:56] <music_______> i know:(
[11:56] <clearzen> How can I see the size of a folder via the command line?
[11:56] <music_______> mwe can u help
[11:56] <mwe> n2diy: Yeah he told me
[11:56] <host`> I need a good image viewing software that does something like acdsee used to do
[11:57] <scoob> jinx099:  I tried to file my taxes online on the IRS, H&R Block, and Turbo Tax websites
[11:57] <mnoir> clearzen: du whilst in the dir
[11:57] <mwe> music I can try
[11:57] <oidia> is there any guide to "safely" partition the harddrive?
[11:57] <scoob> all of the sites said they were not familiar with my os
[11:57] <scoob> and I can't electronically file unless i use windows
[11:57] <clearzen> mnoir: Thanks
[11:57] <mnoir> clearzen: you might want to man du and check out the -h and -s parms
[11:57] <jinx099> scoob: I ahvent done my taxes yet, so I cant give you advice
[11:57] <teer2> scoob: Email each one and let them know that they lost your business because they would not support your computer.
[11:57] <dm> scoob vmware :)
[11:58] <music_______> re-install all restricted modules?   and should i?
[11:58] <mwe> music, what seems to be the problem more specifically, regarding the network?
[11:58] <music_______> i dunno
[11:58] <music_______> its must be my gay isp
[11:59] <scoob> yeah, vmware might work!
[11:59] <music_______> its windows
[11:59] <mr_hus> Hi, why smbmount, is there a way to mount all the shares from a remote machine??
[11:59] <mr_hus> with
[11:59] <oidia> does anyone have a guide/ map to "secure" partitioning, how large and which should be seperated?
[11:59] <music_______> i cant do any download over 100mb
[11:59] <mwe> oh
[11:59] <music_______> i might call them
[11:59] <mwe> that sucks
[12:00] <music_______> and ask them wtf is up
[12:00] <stefg> !partitions | oidia
[12:00] <ubotu> oidia: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[12:00] <mwe> I know I would
[12:00] <mwe> music they might help you even if it's not their fault
[12:00] <mnoir> oidia: since partitioning is a way of virtually managing your disk space, i do not think it enters into security stuff that much
[12:00] <lifepositive> whats a router?
[12:01] <crot> not true, mnoir
[12:01] <mnoir> crot: how so?
[12:01] <teer2> can you get demos for commercial games under the apt-get official distribution channels?