=== b_52Free [n=skimo@adsl196-14-45-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu === johnblackhorse [i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth] has left #xubuntu [] === darrend_laptop [n=davisond@80.4.178.213] has joined #xubuntu === b_52GM [n=skimo@adsl196-169-56-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu === maxamillion [n=max@r74-192-178-37.htvlcmta01.hnvitx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #xubuntu === b_52Centos [n=skimo@adsl196-140-36-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu [12:59] anyone know of a gui network config front end that is known to function with ndiswrapper? [01:00] Nope [01:00] lol [01:00] erm... [01:00] i finally got it to see that the wifi card exists ... [01:01] wifi-radar doesn't pick anything up though ... but i had heard it doesn't work with ndiswrapper ... which appears to be true [01:03] Hrmph [01:04] looks like my only option is network-manager-gnome [01:06] nvm, once that is installed i can find the command to execute it and i don't know where it is ... whereis turned up nothing [01:09] maxamillion: just see the list of files in package [01:09] ah, rgr === grumpymole [n=warren@c220-237-175-49.lowrp1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu [01:11] TheSheep: yeah ... still no help === Jester45 [n=Jester45@207-119-238-53.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:16] i got my new ram [01:17] awesome [01:17] yeps [01:32] ok i got a question on power supplies [01:33] on the red switch on theback what setting is higher the one showing the higher number or the space wherethe higher number would be === RememberPOL [n=pol@pdanilov.student.iastate.edu] has left #xubuntu [] [01:36] Windows XP - The 64-bit wannabe with a 32-bit graphics interface for 16-bit extensions to a 8-bit patch on a 4-bit operating system designed to run on a 2-bit processor by a company that can't stand 1-bit of competition [01:36] so true === bigfuzzyjesus [n=paul@12.206.21.84] has joined #xubuntu === TheSheep [i=sheep@atos.wmid.amu.edu.pl] has joined #xubuntu [02:18] /quit === Eroick [n=chatzill@bas10-ottawa23-1088820863.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu [02:24] does Deskbar work on xubuntu and can I install xubuntu with a alternative install disk? [02:27] yes and yes [02:28] somerville32: should I install a command line system then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop? [02:28] Just use the alternative install disk === someonww [n=trollern@h-68-164-36-238.nycmny83.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:28] hi [02:28] Eroick: And install the desktop [02:28] someonww, hi [02:28] how do I mount a FAT partition? [02:28] somerville32: but it asks" Install in text mode" or :Install a command-line system" which one? [02:28] is there a buttong to do that? [02:28] Eroick: Install in text mode [02:28] someonww: There is an applet [02:28] ok, thanks! [02:29] np :) [02:29] And good luck [02:29] how do i mount a FAT partitoin? [02:30] someonww, After adding the applet, just select the partition and it'll mount it [02:30] someonww, It might be mounted already [02:30] If so, it would be in /media/ [02:30] mm... didn't see it [02:32] Use the "Mount Devices" applet [02:32] It is super easy [02:36] ohh [02:36] kewl [02:36] thanks [02:36] np [02:36] :) [02:36] well I just installed Xubuntu on a crappy 400Mhz VAIO lapdance === somerville32 uses a 333mhz w/ 128mb [02:36] *laptop [02:37] actually I have no idea what "lapdance" stands for [02:37] *256mb [02:37] this guy has 64M runs slow as hell, he will upgrade to 256RAM though [02:37] ram for that crapp is mad cheap [02:38] :] === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-60-217.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu === tuna-fish- [n=tuna@tunamasiina.kortex.jyu.fi] has joined #xubuntu [02:40] somerville32, we have too similar nick... do you mind changing yours? ;-) [02:40] Yes, I would [02:40] lol [02:40] I've used this nick for 9 years [02:41] i want a VAIO lapdance too [02:42] 192MB here [02:42] :D === Crazy_Man [n=Crazy_Ma@cpe-76-185-11-94.tx.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@84-245-180-181.bpool.celox.de] has joined #xubuntu === j1mc [n=j1m@adsl-75-22-16-82.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:26] hi all [03:27] Hello! :) [03:27] hi somerville32 :) [03:28] just kinda came on here to give mad props to the new xubuntu-user mailing list. kinda get the word out or something. [03:29] hopefully get some regular users to use it. [03:29] :) [03:29] Indeed [03:29] thanks for your response to my post there, by the way. [03:29] i'm downloading the alternate install cd now. [03:30] i didn't know that there were nightlies available for test, and had only tested herd 1, and it did nothing. [03:30] i mean, it wouldn't even install. [03:31] lol === ellioTb [n=elliotbo@66-90-143-220.dyn.grandenetworks.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:41] somerville32, if i do a test like the one in the link you provided in your message to the xubuntu-users mailing list, where can i post/share the test results? [03:41] http://wiki.ubuntu.com/testing/Xubuntu === somerville32 creates a factoid. [03:42] !testing [03:42] For information on how to help test the next release of Xubuntu and for the results matrix, please see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/testing/Xubuntu [03:42] :) [03:43] so, basically, the checkbox things are just to help you record your own progress, and then if something doesn't work . . . [03:44] then you check and see if there's a bug report on it already . . . [03:44] and go from there. [03:44] got it. :) [03:44] Well, make sure to mark if it is successful too [03:44] do you actually submit the successful / unsuccessful report somewhere, though? i don't see where you'd do that. [03:45] ah, it's a wiki . . . so i can edit it?? [03:45] edit that page you put up? [03:46] (sorry, i'm being a little slow) === jack_ [n=chatzill@64-121-53-242.c3-0.snmt-ubr1.sfrn-snmt.ca.cable.rcn.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:50] hi... is there a way to easily change from xubuntu to ubuntu.. or just run the ubuntu install disk and have it format the drive? [03:53] i think that you can just run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, but others on here can confirm. [03:54] well [03:55] if i d/l just normal ubuntu and install it normally having it format the drive.. there won't be problems right? [03:55] IT'll remove Xubuntu and all your data on the disk [03:56] j1mc: You would file a bug report and then add it to the reported bugs at the end [03:56] ok [03:56] thats fine. [03:56] thanks [03:57] by the way [03:57] will it run ok? laptop running p3 256 ram [03:57] <-- P2 333mhz w/ 256mb of ram [03:58] hehe [03:58] yeah [03:58] that sucks bro [03:59] my windows box is amazing [03:59] but i use this at work [03:59] my windows box lol [03:59] :] [03:59] core 2 extreme quad core dual 8800;s sli 4 gigs ram [03:59] O [03:59] im not kidding [03:59] <3 [04:00] jack_, i have a p3 800 w/ 256. you'll find that xubuntu will run faster on something like yours than ubuntu, but ubuntu iwll work. [04:00] Xubuntu works too :P [04:00] ok. [04:01] i want something that looks ourty [04:01] purty* [04:01] I think Xubuntu looks purty [04:01] :] [04:01] lol [04:02] my roomate is a perl dev on unix for sun [04:02] oheh [04:02] ok well [04:02] gotta go [04:02] see u guys later. [04:02] lol === somerville32 waves. === aslkmsadlkmdsa [n=team2@202.21.158.4] has joined #xubuntu [04:08] helo [04:08] anyone alive? [04:09] anyoneee?? [04:10] hi === Jester45 [n=Jester45@207-119-238-53.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:10] hi jester [04:10] hi [04:10] can i ask u some questions regarding xubuntu? [04:10] anyone hear about the 11 month baby behind put in an oven? [04:10] how do i draw out the devicfe manager for linux systems? [04:10] device* [04:10] sure [04:11] like to look at network cards video cards ? or disc drives [04:11] yes. [04:12] try lspci [04:12] or lspci -v for more details and -vv for even more === grumpymole [n=warren@c220-237-175-49.lowrp1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu === cellofellow [n=josh@209.193.110.45] has joined #xubuntu [04:13] hi [04:13] yes it works. thank you jester! and yes i have heard abt the baby int the oven thing lol. what about it? [04:13] depending on what you have installed you can go to the fce menu then to system then disc and that shows hardrives and cd drives [04:14] its so sad what people do [04:14] yeap indeed. [04:14] should of fought the dad or somthing not the baby [04:15] jester45: -offtopic :) [04:15] lol. just a different approach for revenging. [04:15] oops :S [04:15] :) [04:15] o come on somerville32 i helped him [04:16] yeah he did somerville32. :P [04:16] and now you can help him find #xubuntu-offtopic :) [04:16] oh if u dont mind, i have another question [04:16] Sure [04:16] Ask away :) [04:16] ok [04:16] :)] [04:17] what sort of programs for security like firewall etc is good for linux? are there any products specially made for linux? [04:17] norton? etc..? [04:17] linux has builtin firewall [04:17] !firewall [04:17] Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE). [04:18] ClamAV if you insist on antivirus. [04:18] most antivirus for linux scans for windows virus so you dont spread them [04:19] i see. is this clamAV for retail or open source? [04:19] OSS. [04:19] I use Gmail so email scanners don't work. [04:19] Above you mentioned norton. I think it [04:20] 's so funny when people expect that big-time software vendors care about little Linux.(desktops anyway.) [04:20] (I've seen Grisoft AVG for RedHat.) [04:21] ha ha yeah i suppose. [04:21] anyway guys thanks a lot for your help. [04:21] gotta run now... till then. take care and god bl;ess === Jester45 has all ports open and never got a virus === aslkmsadlkmdsa too === aslkmsadlkmdsa [n=team2@202.21.158.4] has left #xubuntu [] [04:21] you're more likely to be hacked or rooted Jester. [04:22] I still keep a NAT between me and the internet. [04:22] if I had a mobile laptop, I'd enable a firewall, at least when I'm in a public hotspot. [04:23] yes i by-passed the NAT [04:23] you're crazy. I'm gonna brute-force your box and show you. [04:23] tsk tsk [04:23] :P [04:24] I just rewrote the help page on the Xubuntu website [04:24] Go check it out: http://xubuntu.org/help [04:24] I see the website still has little margins and Dapper-style colors and logos. === supermidgetmob [n=chatzill@cpe-72-181-10-249.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:25] Didn't we decide on something fresher in the last real meeting? [04:25] silly cellofellow i will just reinstall [04:25] when the next version coming out [04:25] better encrypt your most important stuff. [04:26] Stop guys [04:26] 7.04 == April 07 [04:26] ok cody [04:26] its somerville32 not cody [04:27] cellofellow: That stuff won't happen until I get shell access (which has been approved by Canonical, just waiting for the details) [04:27] password huh? [04:27] with shell access can you run anything from terminal [04:28] well, I see canonical eats there own dog food. The website is running on Ubuntu Server. [04:28] why not [04:28] Oh, I thought maybe it was hosted somewhere. [04:28] I guess I was wrong. === subzero800 [n=andrew@ip-152010190227.student.appstate.edu] has joined #xubuntu [04:28] somerville32: nice IRC section [04:29] Thanks :] [04:29] anyone: Im using an old thinkpad, and when i try to boot, after a while it just goes blank with blinking cursor\ === cellofellow just joined the Xubuntu-users list and will help when he can. [04:29] whats it say; Dont under any reason listen to Jester45 and/or do offtopic chat in ontopic channel [04:30] subzero800: can you type stuff? [04:30] subzero800: booting from a CD? [04:30] anyone:no, actually now its giving me device errors on device hdc [04:30] Buffer I/O errors [04:30] sounds like trouble with hdc, your cd drive. [04:31] hdc isn't always your cd drive [04:31] hdc is my / [04:31] ok my usb drives arent showing ondesktop and not on the Thunar list [04:31] hda1 is my /, hdd1 is my /home [04:31] any reason why? [04:31] hdc is DVD [04:31] hdc on a pentium 2 :-) lol === mode/#xubuntu [+o somerville32] by ChanServ === ..[topic/#xubuntu:somerville32] : Official Xubuntu Support Channel | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-users === mode/#xubuntu [-o somerville32] by ChanServ [04:32] I dont think its going to boot [04:32] Jester45: I figured out if I had a /dev file usually associated with USB drives in fstab, they won't show in the desktop. [04:32] subzero800, Check the cd-rom's integrity [04:32] !integrity | subzero800 [04:32] Sorry, I don't know anything about integrity - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [04:32] Hmm [04:32] !anything [04:32] !search iso [04:32] Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [04:32] Found: torrents,mini.iso,dvdiso,.iso,loopback,burners,midi,miniiso,iso,burniso [04:32] !iso [04:32] To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso " There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn [04:33] I think the disk is fine, i think its this computer [04:33] subzero800, Best to check the disk [04:33] k [04:33] There is a "check disk" option at boot [04:33] subzero800: have another CD drive hanging around? [04:33] if it's not the disk [04:33] nope [04:34] oh, darnit. I do and I'd send it to you if I could. [04:34] its a laptop anyways [04:34] cellofellow: i dont undersand you [04:34] oh,yeah. [04:34] who does, jester? [04:34] Jester45, Are you on Feisty, Edgy, or Dapper? === cellofellow is Edgy [04:35] edgy === supermidgetmob [n=chatzill@cpe-72-181-10-249.houston.res.rr.com] has left #xubuntu [] === quad3d [n=quad3d@72.183.114.200] has joined #xubuntu [04:38] anybody know of a tax-form program for linux similar to TurboTax? [04:39] wine = turbotax [04:39] + [04:39] that doesn't cost $40. [04:39] 'sides, I hate wine [04:40] so, there aren't ANY tax programs? [04:42] none that i know [04:42] well, that doesn't meen there aren't any. I'll try seaching. === xfrost [n=xfrost@200.92.72.28] has joined #xubuntu === jack_ [n=chatzill@64-121-53-242.c3-0.snmt-ubr1.sfrn-snmt.ca.cable.rcn.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:49] hi do you guys know how to install ubuntu from xubuntu isnt there a command??? or do you acually have to d/l ubuntu. [04:49] install ubuntu-desktop will give you gnombe [04:49] gnome* [04:49] kubuntu-desktop for kde [04:50] so how do i do that? [04:50] apt-get install ubuntu-desktop [04:50] sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop [04:50] ok [04:50] thanks [04:52] and if you dont want xubuntu you can use "sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get autoremove" [04:52] !software | jack_ [04:52] jack_: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents and !Offline [04:52] shoulw remove most [04:54] thanks for the help i was d/l ubuntu from the site was just gonna format the disk but the d/l froze at 96%.. lol [04:56] np [04:56] cellofellow: so what where you talking about /dev anbd usb drives [04:58] if you put, say, something to do with /dev/sda1 which is for USB drives on my system in fstab, it'll break the little udev/hald thing that makes those icons appear. From experience. :) [04:59] so how do i fix this [05:00] no idea. [05:01] are they creating /dev files when you plug in? [05:01] not sure [05:01] how do i know [05:02] ls -l /dev/sd* [05:02] if you don't have sata/scsi drives, should only return something if the usb drives are being detected. [05:02] ok but how do i know what one [05:02] ok [05:02] lsusb [05:02] I dunno [05:03] Bus 001 Device 002: ID 062a:0102 Creative Labs [05:03] Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 [05:03] for lsusb [05:03] any files in /dev ? [05:03] im using a usb hub one one [05:04] nothing with /dev/sd [05:04] maybe that's the problem, though I don't think it should be. [05:04] it worked b4 [05:04] * included? [05:05] the only things with s is [05:05] is udev even running? [05:06] shm snapshot snd sndstat stderr stdin stdout [05:06] yes it is [05:07] what about hald? [05:07] a few of them [05:07] :/ [05:07] I have no idea what to do. [05:08] Do CD's show on the desktop? [05:08] BRB [05:08] yes they do [05:09] my ipod works on the same port [05:11] well, you got me. [05:11] is there a way to get to the drives without the icons? [05:12] if there's a /dev file, then you just mount it. [05:12] what one [05:12] i dont know these things [05:12] sd** [05:12] like my USB Zip drive is sda for the drive, and sda4 for the disk. [05:14] ok [05:20] well [05:21] thats stupid i guess i will wait from someone else [05:21] thanks for help [05:23] what is the difference between ubuntu 6.06 and 6.06.1 ? [05:24] MagicFab: 6.06 is the original release while 6.06.1 has updated packages [05:24] I know, but which ones :) [05:24] seeing as Dapper will stick with us for a while yet, we may see a 6.06.2 and onward. [05:24] We will see 6.06.2 [05:25] And relatively soon [05:25] MagicFab: all kinds of stuff really === cellofellow uses 6.10, so it doesn't matter. [05:28] http://www.ubuntu.com/download/releasenotes/606 doesn't mention it === spierepf [n=spierepf@S01060000b49b078b.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:33] Greetings. [05:33] :) [05:34] I'm looking for some help with gdm on xubuntu. [05:34] well, what is it? [05:35] I'm trying to run vnc so that it presents a gdmgreeter. [05:35] oh. I've heard VNC can do that, but I use XDMCP instead. [05:35] The problem is that the greeter closes itself before getting presented. I'm not sure why. === dredhammer [n=dredhamm@pool-71-247-15-204.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:38] I've only used XDMCP on local networks. [05:38] oh, if you want Internet, then yeah, VNC or X over SSH [05:39] dunno about getting a GDM Greeter when connecting with VNC though. Never tried that. [05:39] spierepf: are you on the latest fiesty? [05:40] no, I'm on edgy. [05:41] ok, there is a bug on fiesty (not sure if it affects others) where xvnc4server shuts down immediately on connecting [05:42] bug #78282 [05:42] Malone bug 78282 in vnc4 "vnc4server does not start Desktop environment after security update" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78282 [05:42] ok found the announce. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-August/000088.html [05:44] spierepf: not sure if the security update also went to edgy [05:45] spierepf: just checked the bug - it also affects edgy. [05:45] if you are up-to-date on edgy then you would have also received the vnc4server update a few days ago [05:46] Hmmm. That could be it. [05:47] http://grumpymole.blogspot.com/2007/01/vnc4server-on-feisty-breakage.html [05:48] :D [05:48] grumpymole: Are you a Ubuntu member yet? [05:48] no [05:49] You should become one just so that you can add your blog to Ubuntu Planet [05:49] lol === grumpymole grins === dredhammer [n=dredhamm@pool-71-247-15-204.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === spierepf [n=spierepf@S01060000b49b078b.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #xubuntu === quad3d [n=quad3d@72.183.114.200] has joined #xubuntu === bigfuzzyjesus [n=paul@12.206.21.84] has joined #xubuntu === somerville32 [n=somervil@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #xubuntu === MagicFab [n=magicfab@ubuntu/member/magicfab] has joined #xubuntu === kaptengu [n=kaptengu@c213-100-60-132.swipnet.se] has joined #xubuntu === g333k_work [n=gonzalo@200.62.245.15] has joined #xubuntu === darren1 [n=darren@43-015.adsl.zetnet.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #xubuntu === Kreator [n=Kreator@a84-230-240-212.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #xubuntu === apokryphos [n=francis@87-194-86-227.bethere.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === [H5N1] [i=mrflu@laggy.us] has joined #xubuntu === sparrw [n=kvirc@71.16.203.242] has joined #xubuntu [05:54] no cody got netsplit'ed [05:55] !netsplit [05:55] netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit [05:55] :) [05:55] oh, I didn't notice it only lasted a second. === spierepf [n=spierepf@S01060000b49b078b.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #xubuntu === quad3d [n=quad3d@72.183.114.200] has joined #xubuntu === bigfuzzyjesus [n=paul@12.206.21.84] has joined #xubuntu === somerville32 [n=somervil@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #xubuntu === MagicFab [n=magicfab@ubuntu/member/magicfab] has joined #xubuntu === kaptengu [n=kaptengu@c213-100-60-132.swipnet.se] has joined #xubuntu === g333k_work [n=gonzalo@200.62.245.15] has joined #xubuntu === darren1 [n=darren@43-015.adsl.zetnet.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #xubuntu === Kreator [n=Kreator@a84-230-240-212.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #xubuntu === apokryphos [n=francis@87-194-86-227.bethere.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === [H5N1] [i=mrflu@laggy.us] has joined #xubuntu === sparrw [n=kvirc@71.16.203.242] has joined #xubuntu [06:04] vnc and gdm, like sweet sweet candy! === [H5N1] [i=mrflu@laggy.us] has joined #xubuntu [06:06] oooh. My State offers a free Java course online. Should I take it? (I have 0 highschool credit, period. May as well get something.) [06:16] As in -offtopic [06:16] oh, whatever. No one cares and hasn't answered. [06:16] I wanna answer ;] [06:16] oh === rob1 [i=RobertSt@freenode/staff/rob] has joined #xubuntu === Ro_Vai [n=noir@pool-72-73-110-191.ptldme.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:35] whats the command to launch the home folder from a terminal/ [06:35] ? [06:44] thunar /home/yourname [06:45] thanks === grazie [n=grazie@host86-139-111-230.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu === b_52Centos [n=skimo@adsl196-220-40-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu [07:08] Ro_Vai: If you play to use it in a script, you can use the HOME variable [07:08] ie. Thunar $HOME [07:09] i was just making an icon for my bottom panel witch i turned into a mac esk dock [07:09] :] [07:09] ^.^ [07:10] i switched over to xubuntu from gnome about 3 days ago and i'm very very happy with xubuntu [07:10] :) [07:10] I'm very happy to hear that :) [07:10] I like Xubuntu too [07:11] yep i have xubuntu 7.04 with beryl running and i've just finished putting the final touches on my desktop [07:12] OooOoo :) [07:12] I'm running 7.04 too [07:13] yep 7.04 i find to have its quirks but it's still surprisingly stable === somerville32 nods. [07:15] Make sure to file bugs :) [07:16] oh of course [07:16] i havent run into any yet though [07:16] Ro_Vai: Have you subscribed to the new mailing list? [07:17] not yeat [07:17] yet* [07:17] :) [07:17] Nows a great time [07:17] http://lists.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-users === somerville32 smiles warmly. [07:17] i will just as soon as i find a winamp skin for my xmms [07:24] hiho [07:24] what do I have to (restart) if the xfce menu bar is gone? [07:25] Press alt + f2 [07:25] and then enter: xfce4-panel [07:25] and hit enter [07:25] I just signed up for the mailing list [07:26] no neet for alt-f2 [07:26] always have a termianl open :) === b_52Free [n=skimo@adsl196-217-35-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu [07:26] somerville32: but thx :) [07:27] :) [07:27] np [07:29] btw: good morning everyone :) [07:30] @now atlantic [07:30] :) [07:30] Current time in Canada/Atlantic: January 11 2007, 02:30:17 [07:30] Morning [07:31] I love this time of the morning === tenzin [n=tenzin@gw.ptr-80-238-207-181.customer.ch.netstream.com] has joined #xubuntu === b_52GM [n=skimo@adsl196-206-41-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu === maxamillion [n=max@r74-192-178-37.htvlcmta01.hnvitx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #xubuntu === Commander-Crowe [n=thomas@unaffiliated/Commander-Crowe] has joined #xubuntu === maxamillion [n=max@r74-192-178-37.htvlcmta01.hnvitx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:33] !wifi [08:33]