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[12:46] <crimsun> BenC: excellent, thanks.
[12:46] <crimsun> tumbleweed: I'm aware of certain atiixp issues, but I haven't had time to drill down any changesets due to work.
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[06:19] <tepsipakki> hmm, I don't see the new linux-source-2.6.15 in dapper-proposed
[06:20] <kylem> they need to be approved first.
[06:20] <tepsipakki> oh, ok
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[08:12] <tumbleweed> crimsun: thanks
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[02:21] <zul> morning
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=== BenC has a working kvm
[03:10] <zul> how is it?
[03:13] <BenC> it's pretty fast, but not with stock kvm in 2.6.20
[03:14] <BenC> If the new patches don't make 2.6.20, I'll patch it up though
[03:14] <BenC> we also need a new kvm package...Debian's is too old
[03:16] <zul> i can possibly do one this weekend
[03:17] <thom> gar, who thought calling it kvm was a good idea. KVM means something else entirely
[03:17] <BenC> Kernel Virtual Machine :)
[03:17] <Mithrandir> thom: somebody who thought they were funny, probably.
[03:18] <BenC> or Keep Viable Monkeys
[03:18] <zul> keep viably mamories?
[03:18] <zul> er...mamories
[03:18] <zul> i need more coke..
[03:23] <zul> muhahah...its alive
[03:23] <zul> xen-headers-2.6.19-1_2.6.19-1_i386.deb
[03:23] <zul> xen-doc-2.6.19_2.6.19-1_all.deb
[03:23] <zul> xen-image-2.6.19-1-generic_2.6.19-1_i386.deb
[03:23] <zul> xen-image-2.6.19-1-server_2.6.19-1_i386.deb
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[04:11] <fbenites> hi! 
[04:11] <fbenites> i am trying to debug a usb driver, somebody have any hints?
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[04:17] <fabbione> BenC: ping?
[04:17] <BenC> fabbione: pong
[04:17] <fabbione> hey dude
[04:17] <fabbione> BenC: do you mind to slam the webcam i gave to you in the bag to Oslo?
[04:17] <BenC> sure
[04:17] <fabbione> BenC: if we can't get it working i will give it to my wife on her m$ box
[04:17] <fabbione> so i can see my son when away
[04:19] <zul> awwww.//
[04:19] <fabbione> yo zul
[04:20] <zul> hey fabbione how is it going?
[04:20] <fabbione> not too bad and you?
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[04:20] <zul> good no complaints
[04:21] <fbenites> fabbione: which cam chip?
[04:22] <fabbione> fbenites: it's a quickcam but the chip is not supported by the stock kernel driver and the external one is OOPS'orama
[04:22] <fabbione> i don't recall the details.. it's a few months that i gave it to ben with no luck
[04:22] <fbenites> chip which? Pixart Img. ones?
[04:22] <fabbione> i don't recall the details
[04:22] <fbenites> i am one that one... someone wrote a driver, but it can just get a picture and no v4l...
[04:23] <fbenites> so i am trying to port it to spca50x but no success... get some strange errors
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[04:23] <fabbione> fbenites: i could get video out of it, but it was a pain
[04:23] <zul> i still need a netwinder ;)
[04:25] <fbenites> fabbione: v4l and mencoder is a good combination
[04:25] <fabbione> fbenites: it was a kernel problem.. userland was fine
[04:25] <fabbione> the usb part of that driver was crap
[04:25] <fbenites>  ...
[04:26] <fabbione> qc-usb-messenger-0.8.tar.gz
[04:26] <fabbione> found it
[04:26] <fabbione> this is was the external driver
[04:28] <fabbione>         { USB_DEVICE(0x046D, 0x08F0) },         /* QuickCam Messenger */
[04:28] <fabbione> usb uuid
[04:30] <fbenites> ok, there is no spca thing for it...
[04:31] <fabbione> fbenites: with all respect.. i wasn't lying
[04:31] <fbenites> ?
[04:31] <fbenites> i just check the gspa_core.c file, didnt found the device
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[04:48] <thom> gar, xen in edgy is causing kernel panics :(
[04:49] <zul> thom: did you follow the instructions in the wiki?
[04:50] <thom> yup
[04:50] <zul> did you install the xen-ioemu?
[04:50] <thom> and this is the first domu, so it's not #71348 
[04:51] <thom> pretty sure i did, yeah
[04:51] <zul> ah..
[04:52] <thom> glad i have ilo on the box ;-)
[04:54] <thom> yes, i do have xen-ioemu
[04:58] <thom> right, can i make xen not autoreboot so i can actually _read_ the oops?
[04:59] <zul> add noreboot 
[05:00] <zul> 2.6.16 or 2.6.17?
[05:02] <thom> using the 2.6.17-6-server-xen0 kernel
[05:02] <thom> gonna try the 2.6.16 from xensource in a sec
[05:08] <BenC> shitty part about kvm is that it doesn't yet emulate 32-bit real mode calls (like what bootsplash uses), so the liveCD aborts
[05:09] <pmjdebruijn> BenC, that's nasty
[05:09] <BenC> need that fixed
[05:09] <kylem> hmm.
[05:09] <BenC> alternate CD install went fine
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[05:30] <zul> *sigh* dapper doesnt recognize the ethernet card
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[06:40] <ivoks> anyone tried kvm?
[06:40] <ivoks> i get soft lockups on modprobe :/
[06:44] <zul> talk to BenC 
[06:45] <ivoks> i think problem is same as with xen
[06:45] <kylem> he's on the phone, he mentioned you need a newer userspace kvm have you tried that?
[06:45] <ivoks> no, it crashes on loading module, so i didn't get to the userspace :)
[06:45] <kylem> ah.
[06:45] <zul> does your cpu support kvm?
[06:46] <kylem> is there a bug yet, i can look at it
[06:46] <ivoks> yes
[06:46] <ivoks> i will report it, as soon as i grab debug info
[06:46] <kylem> thnx.
[06:47] <ivoks> well, i'm going to crash it now, so brb :)
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[07:01] <ivoks> eh, only way i could grab it is with camera, it's 1 minute movie :)
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[07:19] <cjwatson> BenC: FYI, I have one of mjg59's Intel Macs now, so will start beating on it soon
[07:19] <BenC> cjwatson: excellent
[07:19] <cjwatson> BenC: mjg59 reckoned there was a webcam patch he'd sent to you that wasn't merged yet?
[07:19] <BenC> Yeah, I have it in my inbox
[07:19] <cjwatson> it really is an excessively sexy machine. my wife had immediate hardware-lust
[07:20] <kylem> hahaha.
[07:20] <BenC> hehe
[07:20] <cjwatson> "so does he want it back?"
[07:21] <ivoks> um... if you need macs for testing...
[07:21] <ivoks> i think i can arrange a machine or two for testing
[07:22] <BenC> ivoks: spread the love...I could use a mactel for testing too
[07:22] <ivoks> ok, i'll let you know how it turns out
[07:23] <BenC> ivoks: thanks
[07:23] <ivoks> i don't like them :(
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[07:26] <zul> heh mactel for everyone
[07:26] <ivoks> well, not for everyone... for ubuntu :)
=== kylem was going to buy a macbook but none of the futureshops in ottawa have the 2GHz/4M model
[07:27] <kylem> and an ipw3945 now that i know the stupid atheros wireless is just a pci express card.
[07:27] <zul> futureshop? ick..
[07:27] <zul> why not the macstore?
[07:27] <ivoks> looks like i'm the only one on planet who doesn't like macs :)
[07:27] <kylem> zul, the macstore?
[07:27] <kylem> ivoks, i don't like apple
[07:28] <zul> ivoks: neither do i
[07:28] <kylem> ivoks, but it's the cheapest smallest core2duo machine i can find
[07:28] <cjwatson> the installer job seems considerably easier now that grub apparently works
[07:28] <zul> kylem: gimme a sec
[07:28] <ivoks> kylem: try toshiba satellite pro U200
[07:28] <ivoks> 12"
[07:28] <kylem> ugh, trashiba.
[07:28] <BenC> cjwatson: grub working is a plus :)
[07:29] <zul> kylem: mac group
[07:29] <kylem> do they still have tilde in the wrong location?
[07:29] <zul> group.ca/frame.html
[07:29] <kylem> zul, where is it?
[07:29] <zul> www.themacgroup.ca
[07:29] <ivoks> kylem: yes :D
[07:29] <kylem> sigh.
[07:30] <zul> kylem: 950 gladstone
[07:30] <BenC> I hate this keyboard that james bought for the 965 server in mountain view
[07:30] <BenC> the pipe is below the "return" key, and the return key stretches up to where the pipe is supposed to be
[07:30] <kylem> BenC, ugh
[07:31] <BenC> so when I type "cmd | foo" I usually end up getting just command to stdout
[07:31] <ivoks> nasty
[07:31] <kylem> zul, hmm, it's cheaper by $10 than futureshop, but only claims to have 512M while the apple online store and futureshop both say it has 1G
[07:31] <zul> ah
[07:33] <kylem> jesus, what a shitty website.
[07:34] <ivoks> toshiba_acpi is broken in 2.6.20 :/
[07:34] <BenC> ivoks: I need to add the hotkey via acpi patch
[07:34] <ivoks> oh, ok...
[07:36] <zul> kylem: powermac is still too expensive for me from that store
[07:40] <ivoks> kylem: there bug #78976 :)
[07:50] <kylem> thanks.
[07:50] <ivoks> movie is best viwed with xine :)
[07:51] <kylem> ok, that helps.
[07:51] <kylem> is VT enabled in your bios?
[07:51] <ivoks> yes
[07:51] <kylem> spiffy.
[07:53] <Nafallo> ivoks: agreed. atleast for DVD-support :-)
[07:54] <ivoks> Nafallo: well, this mpeg had some postprocessing; this results in very bad picture with gstreamer, but very nice with xine/mplayer
[07:54] <kylem> ivoks, it looks like it hung the cpu.
[07:55] <ivoks> kylem: maybe it's related, but i'm getting this all the time:
[07:55] <ivoks> APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)
[07:55] <ivoks> for both CPU0 and CPU1
[07:59] <ivoks> brb
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[08:13] <adon> hi everyone! I managed to make my card (Hauppauge WinTV express work) I had to edit the /etc/modprobe.d/options file to set the type of the tunner. Does anyone know if there is a reason why it is not hardcoded to the kernel?
[08:15] <adon> Actually is this the place to ask this question?
[08:16] <ivoks> adon: there is a reason; one chip can have lots of diferent tuners
[08:17] <zul> #ubuntu
[08:19] <adon> zul: ok
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[10:20] <cjwatson> mjg59: have you noticed the CD on that Mac apparently spinning down ridiculously often?
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