[12:48] <Seveas> gnomefreak, err, I *just* cleaned it
[12:50] <effie_jayx> :D
[12:52] <gnomefreak> cant get to it :(
[12:53] <gnomefreak> this friggin thing is working on my nerves with everything from usb to wikis
[12:55] <gnomefreak> Seveas: much nicer ty
[12:58] <gnomefreak> how do you delete things from trash that wont delete. like . and .. there is also a file with a lock but when i cd into ~/.Trash   ls doesnt show it
[12:59] <gnomefreak> i keep getting rm cant remove . or ..
[12:59] <somerville32> ...
[12:59] <somerville32> You can't remove . or ..
[12:59] <somerville32> , would be the current directory
[12:59] <somerville32> *.
[12:59] <somerville32> and .. is the parent directory
[12:59] <somerville32> They aren't actually files
[12:59] <gnomefreak> ok what about the folder thats in htere
[01:00] <somerville32> gnomefreak: Might be a meta file or something
[01:00] <gnomefreak> ls -a doesnt list the folder
[01:00] <gnomefreak> its a USB files folder
[01:00] <gnomefreak> im giving someone this USB stick but i cant clean it off nor now can i clean my trash
[01:01] <somerville32> Are you using gnome?
[01:01] <gnomefreak> yep
[01:02] <gnomefreak> usb is mounted but it wont mount as root so i cant clean it off
[01:03] <somerville32> Yeah, doesn't gnome not actually delete the file but move it into .trash at the root of the device?
[01:03] <somerville32> (which really sucks for usb disks)
[01:04] <gnomefreak> cant get rid of it in trash either but ls doesnt show it and usb cant delete the files in that folder due to prmissions
[01:04] <gnomefreak> "/media/disk/....1.6.4-fx.jar" cannot be deleted because it is on a read-only disk. the file it does it for more than just that one
[01:05] <gnomefreak> i get that either trying to delete it off of ysb or from trash
[01:06] <gnomefreak> im in the usb but sudo wont delete anything because its a read only filesystem (how do i change that)
[01:06] <somerville32> You'd need to remount it as rw
[01:08] <gnomefreak> how? 
[01:09] <somerville32> Why don't you sudo rm -rf * it? lol
[01:09] <gnomefreak> it wont work
[01:09] <somerville32> What is the error?
[01:09] <gnomefreak> i even tried sudo -i than cd into it
[01:09] <gnomefreak> rm: cannot remove `.Trash-gnomefreak//USB_Files/downloads/nautipolis_for_firefox-1.6.4-fx.jar': Read-only file system
[01:10] <gnomefreak> so on and so forth for each file in the folder
[01:10] <somerville32> Oh right
[01:10] <somerville32> ro filesystem
[01:10] <somerville32> umount it
[01:10] <somerville32> then mount it again with...
[01:12] <gnomefreak> its unmounted
[01:12] <somerville32> Ok, now mount it again
[01:12] <gnomefreak> i have a feeling sudo mount /dev/media/ isnt gonna work
[01:12] <somerville32> sudo mount /dev/media/sda1 might though
[01:12] <somerville32> lol
[01:13] <somerville32> Thats only if you have an fstab entry though
[01:13] <somerville32> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[01:13] <gnomefreak> nope
[01:13] <gnomefreak> /media/sda1 does not exist
[01:13] <gnomefreak> i have to screw with this later  
[01:13] <somerville32> Are you using xchat?
[01:13] <gnomefreak> no
[04:38] <afraz_> Am I banned forever?
[04:41] <afraz_> Am I banned forever in #ubuntuofftopics for annoying some people in that room?
[04:42] <afraz_> Annoyed only one and asked for an apology afterwards.
[04:59] <afraz_> Can someone review by ban?
[05:15] <dabaR> man...ubotu used to know a bunch more stuff than he now does...
[05:16] <Hobbsee> dabaR: yes.  we took out the rubbish :P
[05:16] <dabaR> ha
[05:16] <dabaR>   !
[05:18] <dabaR> Hobbsee: you deleted maybe some of the links people created for themselves, and used as part of their conversation...
[05:18] <dabaR> or whoever did...
[05:18] <Hobbsee> well, we deleted all the offtoipc stuff
[05:18] <dabaR> I guess it was necessary
[05:34] <Amaranth> Hobbsee: all of it?
[05:34] <Amaranth> !love
[05:34] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[05:34] <Amaranth> phew
[05:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> o_0
[05:37] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: well, most
[05:38] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: all at the time that we did a massive redo of the factoids, with the new bot
[05:38] <Hawkwind> And surely that one could stand to be deleted
[05:41] <Amaranth> Hobbsee: oh, 6 months ago
[05:41] <Amaranth> Hawkwind: no way
[05:41] <Amaranth> !-love
[05:41] <ubotu> love has no aliases - added by Amaranth on 2006-10-14 07:45:34
[05:41] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: yeah
[05:41] <Amaranth> i also own !ping and !test
[05:41] <Hawkwind> Amaranth: Yeah, totally and completely use
[05:41] <Amaranth> although someone changed !ping
[05:41] <Amaranth> !ping
[05:41] <Hawkwind> s/use/useless
[05:42] <ubotu> 64 bytes from ubotu (10.13.37.1): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.33 ms
[05:42] <Amaranth> !test
[05:42] <Hobbsee> !ping is <reply> pong
[05:42] <ubotu> Failed.
[05:42] <ubotu> ping is already known
[05:42] <Hobbsee> !no ping is <reply> pong
[05:42] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Hobbsee
[05:42] <Hobbsee> dunno why
[05:42] <Amaranth> "Failed" is !test's reply :P
[05:42] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:42] <Amaranth> Hawkwind: they don't all have to be useful
[05:42] <Amaranth> it's mat groening
[06:32] <mneptok> magnu, horse with golden mane, i want your help yet once again.
[06:32] <Madpilot> mneptok, you're either drunk & IRCing, or quoting song lyrics at random again
[06:33] <Madpilot> possibly all of the above?
[06:33] <mneptok> Madpilot: "Magnu" by (oddly) Hawkwind ;)
[06:34] <Hobbsee> hah
[06:34] <mneptok> and now, a fan that has been liquified and will soon be volcano ejecta
[06:35] <Hobbsee> hehe
[07:00] <elkbuntu> Madpilot, would you be surprised if I pointed out that this is how mneptok behaves when sober?
[07:00] <Madpilot> elkbuntu, not terribly surprised, no. ;)
[07:00] <elkbuntu> im not sure i really want to encounter the drunk variety, and im pretty sure he was never drunk, so to speak, at UDS
[07:26] <mneptok> 1). i have an insanely high tolerance -and- 2). weirdness to mayhem is not a line i enjoy crossing often
[07:26] <mneptok> i do weird. mayhem tires me.
[07:26] <mneptok> :)
[07:35] <elkbuntu> heh
[12:10] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: herd 2 is still to early in the cycle; shall we only have the topic mention in +1?
[12:10] <gnomefreak> apokryphos: herd 2 is released
[12:10] <gnomefreak> they deamed it safe enough to release
[12:10] <apokryphos> I know, but it's still to early in the release cycle for new users
[12:11] <apokryphos> but it's still not a good idea for new users
[12:11] <gnomefreak> herd 1 is more broken than herd2
[12:11] <apokryphos> and yet still so early
[12:11] <gnomefreak> feisty alone is not good for a new user
[12:11] <apokryphos> right
[12:11] <gnomefreak> i just replaced the herd1 url to the herd 2 url
[12:11] <apokryphos> we can have it in the topic when they start recommending it for wide beta testing
[12:12] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: oh, it wasn't you that changed the #ubuntu topic?
[12:12] <apokryphos> I didn't get a chance to see
[12:12] <gnomefreak> i just changed herd 1 to herd 2
[12:12] <apokryphos> herd 1 was mentioned in the #ubuntu topic?
[12:12] <gnomefreak> you had put herd 1 url in the topic
[12:12] <apokryphos> nevermind, I'll take it out for now anyhow
[12:12] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu+1
[12:12] <apokryphos> nope, not me
[12:13] <apokryphos> I'm talking about #ubuntu :P
[12:13] <gnomefreak> i didnt put it there
[12:13] <gnomefreak> it shouldnt be there at all
[12:13] <apokryphos> exactly :P
[12:13] <apokryphos> ok, sorry, thought it was you
[12:14] <apokryphos> ah, it was mneptok in fact
[12:14] <mneptok> ;it was
[12:14] <apokryphos> mneptok: it's not suitable for new users yet
[12:14] <mneptok> Herd 2, though
[12:14] <gnomefreak> yeah i saw
[12:14] <apokryphos> Herd 2 is really really early
[12:14] <gnomefreak> mn #ubuntu+1
[12:14] <apokryphos> right
[12:14] <gnomefreak> its already in topic there
[12:15] <mneptok> apokryphos: depends on the user ;)
[12:15] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu == stable releases
[12:15] <apokryphos> I probably wouldn't recommend feisty to anyone that's *not* in #ubuntu+1 :P
[12:15] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu+1 == testing/devel/beta releases
[12:16] <mneptok> heh. hope Edgy wasn't /topi,ed as a stabse release *duck*
[12:16] <gnomefreak> !info seahorse edgy
[12:16] <ubotu> seahorse: A Gnome front end for GnuPG. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.5-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1560 kB, installed size 5528 kB
[12:16] <apokryphos> =)
[12:16] <gnomefreak> hm
[12:16] <gnomefreak> apokryphos: you on edgy?
[12:16] <gnomefreak> with backports enabled?
[12:16] <apokryphos> yeah, haven't tested feisty
[12:16] <apokryphos> but I'm not on edgy now
[12:22] <gnomefreak> i figured it out ty anyway
[04:31] <apokryphos> letting everyone auto-rejoin on /removes
[04:31] <jenda> that's what the ban is for, no? )
[04:32] <apokryphos> yeah, but /remove also had a use...
[04:37] <jenda> indeed :)
[05:11] <apokryphos> maxamillion: though you can also do it with no CDs, btw
[05:12] <apokryphos> or one mini-iso CD
[05:13] <maxamillion> apokryphos: lol ... uhmmm, your an ubuntu op? 
[05:14] <apokryphos> yes =)
[05:15] <maxamillion> apokryphos: awesome, anyhoo ... they main reason I want to try suse 10.2 is i have read all over the net that it is the easiest to get the bcm4318 wifi card working and that's the card i have in the laptop i just got issued at work and i have tried every method i could find in the wiki, blogs, and the forums to get it to work under ubuntu and no luck
[05:15] <apokryphos> it's worth giving it a go
[05:16] <maxamillion> apokryphos: but the tutorial on running the net install cd on the suse website is less than explanitory
[05:16] <apokryphos> if you download it with metalinks you'll have a download that maxes out your connection, for sure
[05:16] <apokryphos> maxamillion: no DVD burner?
[05:17] <maxamillion> apokryphos: yes, dvd burner ... but i get about 2gb into the download and it times out ... tried it 3 times and gave up
[05:17] <apokryphos> maxamillion: use metalinks 8)
[05:17] <maxamillion> apokryphos: i'm at work right now so i can do a net install and just flood a connection here
[05:17] <apokryphos> should get around such problems; it handles multiple connections
[05:17] <maxamillion> apokryphos: metalinks?
[05:18] <apokryphos> maxamillion: /msg susehelp metalinks
[05:18] <maxamillion> rgr
[05:19] <apokryphos> maxamillion: a download is as simple as aria2c http://download.packages.ro/metalink/opensuse/openSUSE-10_2-GM-DVD-i386_iso.metalink
[05:19] <apokryphos> but perhaps we should take this to msg ;-) 
[05:20] <maxamillion> so just run that command in terminal and it will download ... kinda like rsync?
[05:20] <apokryphos> not exactly. A metalink is a small data-file with information on all the mirrors etc
[05:20] <apokryphos> -> msg
[05:21] <maxamillion> rgr
[06:07] <DShepherd> help
[06:07] <DShepherd> I need help in rejoing the ubuntu channel
[06:07] <DShepherd> rejoining*
[06:07] <DShepherd> will anyone assist me?
[06:08] <Amaranth> why can't you join?
[06:08] <Amaranth> ah, dcc vuln
[06:08] <Amaranth> i can't help, sorry
[06:09] <Amaranth> apokryphos: ping?
[06:09] <DShepherd> I followed the instructions that was in the topic for ubuntu-read-topic
[06:09] <apokryphos> hi
[06:09] <apokryphos> DShepherd: ok, please join #dshepherd for a test
[06:10] <apokryphos> ok, good to go; will unban now
[06:10] <DShepherd> ok
[06:10] <DShepherd> apokryphos, let me know when I am good to go
[06:10] <apokryphos> go for it
[06:12] <DShepherd> thanks apokryphos and Amaranth 
[06:12] <apokryphos> np
[06:16] <Amaranth> apokryphos: seveas' script does it
[06:16] <apokryphos> which would involve using xchat 8)
[06:16] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, regeya said: ubotu: no, humorless is when a person is completely lacking in a sense of humor, often lashing out when others attempt (occasionally with some success) to be funny
[06:17] <apokryphos> ubotu: bot > regeya
[06:17] <apokryphos> and I'm too lazy to implement IP-grabbing via /whowas for my scripts :P
[08:25] <mneptok> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw8sNoodIDk
[08:26] <apokryphos> ?
[08:27] <mneptok> best cover ever.
[10:04] <DBO> Seveas?
[10:04] <DBO> why the ban bud? =)
[10:05] <Seveas> abusing !ops
[10:05] <Seveas> that's only to be used in emergencies
[10:05] <DBO> ok Ill let him know
[10:05] <DBO> someone had asked to speak with an op
[10:05] <DBO> im letting him back in
[10:06] <DBO> hes generally been ok in there
[10:06] <DBO> I gave him a stern talking to
[10:06] <DBO> and sent him to bed without dinner
[10:16] <gnomefreak> what happened to the ops abuse fact?
[10:17] <DBO> !abuse
[10:17] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:17] <DBO> eh no idea
[10:17] <DBO> I think it should be !stfun00b
[10:18] <gnomefreak> he pmed me saw my away i assume and still called !ops. wasnt he a perm ban anyway?
[10:18] <DBO> who?
[10:19] <DBO> keeb?
[10:19] <gnomefreak> to eternal
[10:19] <gnomefreak> i thought that was Seveas perm ban
[10:19] <DBO> donno
[10:19] <DBO> maybe?
[10:21] <gnomefreak> at one point it seemed everytime he was unbanned he started crap iirc
[10:21] <DBO> ah the good ol days
[10:29] <gnomefreak> now i know it was  aperm ban eternaljoy is lifepositive
[10:35] <Amaranth> Seveas: Any chance I could get my cloak back?
[10:58] <Paedrigh> Is there a log that is accessible for today's conversations on this channel?
[10:58] <PriceChild> Paedrigh, there is...
[10:58] <mc44> !log
[10:58] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[10:59] <Paedrigh> thank you...
[11:06] <crazytales> Why is AfterDeath banned fromhere?
[11:09] <PriceChild> Hmm issues by Hobbsee... /me reads the log
[11:10] <somerville32> PriceChild: Hmm... whats up? :)
[11:10] <afraz> so carzy tale have you been also
[11:10] <PriceChild> somerville32, crazytales's thing earlier...
[11:10] <afraz> Some one tell me how long a ban period is?
[11:10] <PriceChild> afraz, depends on the ban...
[11:10] <afraz> Is it forever
[11:10] <somerville32> PriceChild: I haven't been here.
[11:10] <PriceChild> somerville32, <crazytales> Why is AfterDeath banned fromhere?
[11:10] <crazytales> Why is AfterDeath banned fromhere?
[11:11] <afraz> How long have I been banned?
[11:11] <somerville32> PriceChild: See bantracker
[11:11] <afraz> it was yesterday i annoyed and sad a bad word at the end
[11:11] <afraz> so whats the punishment
[11:11] <afraz> how long
[11:11] <afraz> ?????
[11:12] <PriceChild> afraz, S eveas banned you.... I would give it at least 24 hours... but what do i know
[11:12] <somerville32> afraz: 24 hour ban
[11:12] <afraz> is that it
[11:12] <afraz> one day
[11:12] <gnomefreak> afraz: thats the least normally
[11:12] <somerville32> afraz: When Seveas gets in, I'm sure he'll ban you then.
[11:12] <afraz> y
[11:13] <afraz> is it that bad for new users
[11:13] <PriceChild> afraz, "new"... that's not an excuse
[11:13] <afraz> i was logged on for 3 days
[11:14] <somerville32> afraz: I'll look into it for you. In the mean time, please review the Community Code of Conduct so that you don't make any mistakes again :)
[11:14] <afraz> thx
[11:14] <afraz> whats the link for code of conductd
[11:14] <mc44>  !coc
[11:14] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[11:19] <afraz> are you guys same people who send cds of the older version of ubuntu
[11:21] <somerville32> No
[11:23] <mc44> !shipit | afraz 
[11:23] <ubotu> afraz: shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will not send Edgy (6.10) CDs, but only Dapper (6.06) CDs, as Dapper is a !LTS release.
[11:23] <afraz> mc44 what are you
[11:23] <afraz> a human or bot
[11:24] <mc44> I'm a hamster
[11:24] <crazytales> ubotu is the bot
[11:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is the bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:25] <afraz> carzytale why are you here
[11:25] <crazytales> why not?
[11:25] <afraz> i mean because of ban
[11:25] <afraz> your ban too
[11:25] <crazytales> no, I'm not banned
[11:26] <afraz> is your friend banned
[11:27] <afraz> is every of these ops grads they do jobs
[11:28] <crazytales> well, I was wondering why afterdeath is banned from this channel
[11:28] <crazytales> he's not really my friend
[11:28] <crazytales> but he's a chanop in #wikipedia
[11:30] <afraz> does any one know what time i was banned
[11:31] <crazytales> today about 1am GMT
[11:31] <afraz> whats GMT
[11:31] <crazytales> [[GMT] ] 
[11:31] <afraz> ok i have to go
[11:31] <crazytales> or 8pm eastern time
[11:32] <afraz> i will log back on 9 i guess or 10 i guess
[12:23] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, ToHellWithGA said: ubotu: ffs is <alias> noob
[12:26] <somerville32> !noob
[12:26] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[12:26] <somerville32> !ffs is <alias> noob
[12:26] <ubotu> I'll remember that, somerville32