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| ryanakca | will xubuntu run on 64mb ram? | 01:40 |
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| grazie | ryanakca: yes. you'll need the alternative installation disk or network install. | 01:43 |
| grazie | 128M would be better | 01:44 |
| ryanakca | grazie: well, I'm installing it on my friend's old PC... made in 97 iirc, IBM... really old thing... they were going to throw it out... | 01:45 |
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| maxamillion | ryanakca: i have seen Xubuntu run on 64mb of ram ... its not the snappiest of things, but its not horrible | 01:45 |
| grazie | night all | 01:47 |
| ryanakca | maxamillion: yeah... well, it definitly won't be running beryl or anything demanding... probably firefox, gaim/kopete, and openoffice/abiword/koffice (I have yet to figure out with office suit uses less ram/is fastest...) | 01:47 |
| cellofellow | maybe Google stuff, Docs & Spreadsheats, Gmail, GCal, that sort of thing. Only one program, Firefox, running. | 01:48 |
| cellofellow | OOo definetly not. | 01:48 |
| maxamillion | ryanakca: abiword is the lightest i have found .... abiword and firefox will be a little slow on 64mb of ram but i think it will be usable | 01:48 |
| ryanakca | kk | 01:49 |
| cellofellow | ted is the lightest I've seen, but it's practically a Rich Text Editor. | 01:50 |
| cellofellow | not word processor | 01:50 |
| maxamillion | yeah ... ted is pretty good for what it does | 01:51 |
| vidd | isnt there a lighter web browser? | 01:51 |
| vidd | like a stripped down firefox? | 01:51 |
| cellofellow | none I know without GNOME or KDE depends | 01:51 |
| cellofellow | Galeon, Epiphany, Konqueror. Opera too. | 01:52 |
| vidd | which, of course, misses the mark | 01:52 |
| maxamillion | there is swiftfox ... but its ... annoying | 01:52 |
| vidd | more annoying then 64 meg ram? | 01:52 |
| vidd | =] | 01:52 |
| cellofellow | what's annoying about it? I use it. It isn't particullary lightweight. Faster on the CPU than Firefox. | 01:53 |
| cellofellow | I like it. | 01:53 |
| maxamillion | i just don't like how many people freak out about it in the forums | 01:53 |
| cellofellow | I don't. :) I didn't mention it till you did. | 01:54 |
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| maxamillion | "zomg, swiftfox flash isn't working ... sound in swiftfox, java in swiftfox" ... and i really wanna be like "ITS NOT IN THE REPOS FOR A REASON" | 01:54 |
| xorg_start | i need help in xubuntu | 01:54 |
| xorg_start | i am trying to start a GUI in server mode | 01:54 |
| xorg_start | and startx isn't working | 01:54 |
| xorg_start | says command is not found | 01:54 |
| cellofellow | all works here, for swiftfox. sound, mplayer, gnash. | 01:55 |
| maxamillion | xorg_start: did you install xorg and xserver-xorg? | 01:55 |
| xorg_start | i did sudo apt-get install xorg* | 01:55 |
| maxamillion | cellofellow: mmmm gnash, can't wait till that is stable | 01:55 |
| xorg_start | and it installed 150 mb of xorg stuff | 01:55 |
| xorg_start | i'll try xserver-xorg | 01:55 |
| xorg_start | thanx | 01:55 |
| maxamillion | xorg_start: now do "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg" and it should work | 01:55 |
| vidd | maxamillion, gnash? | 01:55 |
| maxamillion | :) | 01:55 |
| maxamillion | vidd: gnu flash player | 01:55 |
| cellofellow | vidd: gnu glash | 01:55 |
| cellofellow | works great for YouTube. | 01:56 |
| vidd | sweet | 01:56 |
| cellofellow | some sights balk when they detect a "fake" flash player. | 01:56 |
| cellofellow | sites | 01:56 |
| === maxamillion slaps those sites | ||
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| vidd | mayby i can get the kid on linux in the near future | 01:56 |
| cellofellow | hi there Jester45 | 01:56 |
| vidd | he was upset the last time i got angry at his crashed systemn and installed breezy on it | 01:57 |
| maxamillion | vidd: mine will be a kernel hacker by the time hes 12 ... when i have one that is | 01:57 |
| Jester45 | how can i run a vpn daemon and have web based access | 01:57 |
| Jester45 | hi | 01:57 |
| xorg_start | it will not install xserver because it says the CD is scratched | 01:57 |
| xorg_start | can i not just download the deb through apt-get from the web only (no CD)? | 01:57 |
| maxamillion | xorg_start: no net connection? | 01:57 |
| vidd | xorg_start, remove the cd | 01:57 |
| xorg_start | i have a net connectino | 01:58 |
| xorg_start | it still wants the CD in though | 01:58 |
| maxamillion | xorg_start: yeah, ditch the cd and get it from the net | 01:58 |
| cellofellow | Hitachi should be able to do that. Just install lighttpd or apache and tell it to use the virtual /dev/ham device. | 01:58 |
| Jester45 | xorg_start: you might have ot add the repos | 01:58 |
| vidd | sudo mousepad .etc/apt/sources.list | 01:58 |
| cellofellow | not . | 01:58 |
| Jester45 | cellofellow: you talking to me? | 01:58 |
| cellofellow | / | 01:58 |
| cellofellow | yeah, oops | 01:58 |
| vidd | put a "#" in front of the cd (remove the quotes) | 01:58 |
| Jester45 | cellofellow: isnt hitachi a tv company? | 01:59 |
| maxamillion | xorg_start: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" ... put a # infront of the line that talks about the CD as a source, ctrl+o to save, ctrl+x to exit and the "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg" | 01:59 |
| xorg_start | Jester, how do i do that? | 01:59 |
| xorg_start | ok, let me try that | 01:59 |
| cellofellow | Jester45: hamachi I meant | 01:59 |
| maxamillion | vidd: he doesn't have a gui .. no mousepad ;) | 01:59 |
| Jester45 | xorg_start: look above | 01:59 |
| Jester45 | use vim | 01:59 |
| cellofellow | nano then | 01:59 |
| vidd | D'OH | 01:59 |
| maxamillion | Jester45: no, never wish vim on a new user | 01:59 |
| cellofellow | nano for newbs. | 01:59 |
| vidd | s/mousepad/nano | 01:59 |
| somerville32 | Do they not have a command line? | 02:00 |
| somerville32 | Why not just use Applications > System > Software Sources | 02:00 |
| Jester45 | maxamillion: im new i never used nano and vim worked | 02:00 |
| cellofellow | somerville32: no x, server edition. | 02:00 |
| maxamillion | somerville32: we are trying to get X installed ontop of a server sli setup ;) | 02:00 |
| maxamillion | Jester45: erm ... ok | 02:00 |
| cellofellow | Jester45: took me a LONG time to figure out how to exit vi. | 02:00 |
| Jester45 | cellofellow: apt-cache search didnt show that package | 02:00 |
| maxamillion | :q | 02:00 |
| Jester45 | its ^E right? | 02:01 |
| maxamillion | ok ... i'm off work, laters all! | 02:01 |
| Jester45 | bye | 02:01 |
| cellofellow | Jester45: it's not in the repos. But, still, most VPN systems should let you use apache. | 02:01 |
| maxamillion | Jester45: esc+:q is the "true" vi way to do it | 02:01 |
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| Jester45 | oo its Q no E | 02:01 |
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| Jester45 | cellofellow: and how wil that work with apache...like whats the type of interface | 02:02 |
| cellofellow | Jester45: it makes a P2P VPN network, SSH based, with a virtual /dev/ham ethernet device. | 02:02 |
| cellofellow | Apache can be made device-specific. | 02:03 |
| pidgas | anyone else here use the nvidia-glx driver? Anyone else having problems with the new release? | 02:03 |
| Jester45 | cellofellow: ok thats only text right? | 02:03 |
| vidd | pidgas, you using the proprietary driver? | 02:03 |
| cellofellow | Jester45: nah, it's a virtual LAN over the Internet, encrypted with SSH. | 02:03 |
| Jester45 | cellofellow: ok i must be confused i want to be at a remote computer that i can look at my screen with | 02:04 |
| pidgas | yeah vidd | 02:04 |
| pidgas | I am | 02:04 |
| cellofellow | Jester45: you said VPN. I guess you meant VNC. | 02:04 |
| Jester45 | cellofellow: but i cant install anything and i has to work on windows | 02:04 |
| Jester45 | i guess | 02:05 |
| === vidd wont install the proprietary driver...only free for me | ||
| cellofellow | realvnc should work. There may be a Java-applet client that you can embed in a web-page. | 02:05 |
| vidd | pidgas, sorry i cant help | 02:05 |
| cellofellow | pidgas: I use the nvidia driver. what's up? | 02:06 |
| pidgas | thanks vidd, u use only the free ones? can they do anything with beryl or compiz? | 02:06 |
| pidgas | Hey cellofellow | 02:06 |
| somerville32 | Is there anyone here who would be willing to test Xubuntu Herd 2 for me? | 02:06 |
| Jester45 | no | 02:06 |
| vidd | it works with beryl.....i used it for about a week on my laptop | 02:06 |
| pidgas | cool vidd...i might check it out | 02:06 |
| vidd | somerville32, i will | 02:06 |
| pidgas | prolly will if I can't get this straight | 02:06 |
| cellofellow | somerville32: I might be able to spare a little while to test under QEMU, but I can | 02:07 |
| cellofellow | 't install it | 02:07 |
| somerville32 | !testing | 02:07 |
| ubotu | For information on how to help test the next release of Xubuntu and for the results matrix, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Xubuntu/Current | 02:07 |
| somerville32 | If you have any questions, please feel free to ask | 02:07 |
| cellofellow | QEMU is so slow, I won't be able to test perfomance | 02:07 |
| pidgas | cello, have you upgraded to the newest version nvidia-glx? | 02:07 |
| cellofellow | yeah, I did. | 02:07 |
| vidd | somerville32, this was the link i been asking for LAST WEEK! | 02:07 |
| cellofellow | not the 9xxx stuff, just the new one in the repos | 02:07 |
| vidd | ... | 02:08 |
| Jester45 | !info rfb | 02:08 |
| pidgas | the one that depends on nvidia-kernel-1.0.9629? | 02:08 |
| vidd | let me get my laptop fired up | 02:08 |
| ubotu | rfb: VNC Server for X11 - exports current display. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.1-12 (edgy), package size 232 kB, installed size 664 kB | 02:08 |
| pidgas | ok, so back to basics for me...how can you tell where a package in synaptic is coming from? | 02:08 |
| cellofellow | pidgas: not sure. I use the -legacy version, so it may not. | 02:08 |
| cellofellow | pidgas: how do you meen? | 02:09 |
| pidgas | where, if anywhere, does it say that this package infor comes from this repo? | 02:09 |
| pidgas | does that make sense? | 02:09 |
| cellofellow | oh, like Main, Universe, Multiverse stuff? | 02:09 |
| pidgas | sorta | 02:09 |
| pidgas | yeah | 02:09 |
| pidgas | I've installed some packages, eg Beryl, that required me to add repos | 02:10 |
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| pidgas | i know where that infor comes from b/c it's in the url | 02:10 |
| cellofellow | dunno, never used synaptic. Aptitude does though. Very simple. The package tree is organized into categories, then source repos, then the pckages. | 02:10 |
| pidgas | but, what repo holds the nvidia-glx packages | 02:10 |
| pidgas | AHH | 02:10 |
| cellofellow | restricted. I think. | 02:10 |
| pidgas | do you just use command line apt-get? | 02:11 |
| cellofellow | aptitude actually. command line and curses mode. | 02:11 |
| pidgas | i'll ask about the differences another time when I'm not about to eat dinner with the family | 02:11 |
| pidgas | or read about 'em myself | 02:11 |
| cellofellow | just type Aptitude into a terminal, and you'll see the semi-gui curses mode. | 02:12 |
| cellofellow | s/Aptitude/aptitude | 02:12 |
| pidgas | cool | 02:12 |
| pidgas | well, I updated the packages and marked all upgrades. nvidia-glx got "upgraded" and/or removed. | 02:12 |
| pidgas | I think it might have been removed b/c I went from the 386 kernel to generic for SMP | 02:13 |
| pidgas | anyhow, X complained when I eventually rebooted and I went to reinstall nvidia-glx | 02:13 |
| pidgas | only now I can't seem to get a version that works with an edgy kernel | 02:13 |
| cellofellow | SMP, you've a dual-core? | 02:14 |
| pidgas | the new version demands nvidia-kernel-1.0.92xx and that only goes with kernels 2.6.19 and up i guess | 02:14 |
| pidgas | yeah, i lucked out and my work computer is a core 2 duo | 02:14 |
| cellofellow | core2duo, you using the 64bit or 32bit version? | 02:14 |
| pidgas | i was lookin around and saw in /proc/cpuinfo that I only had one core | 02:15 |
| pidgas | using 32 bit...i like flash to work | 02:15 |
| pidgas | don't want to mess with the 32 bit browser s&*$ | 02:15 |
| cellofellow | yeah, 32bit for multimedia, 64bit for total performance. | 02:15 |
| pidgas | you speak the truth | 02:15 |
| cellofellow | well, I dunno what to do. | 02:16 |
| pidgas | so now I'm seemingly caught in no mans land | 02:16 |
| cellofellow | you could try using the nv driver for now. | 02:16 |
| pidgas | yeah...I think I will | 02:16 |
| cellofellow | maybe ask in the forums or on the xubuntu-users mailing list. They may know more than me. | 02:16 |
| pidgas | much thanks, irritated wife just said..."For your information, I'm eating by myself." Her tone says "get off the f&*&ing computer" | 02:17 |
| pidgas | I best jet | 02:17 |
| cellofellow | ok, cya | 02:17 |
| pidgas | thanks for the help! | 02:17 |
| cellofellow | !generic | 02:17 |
| ubotu | Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed) | 02:17 |
| cellofellow | hmm, | 02:18 |
| vidd | somerville32, you should remember i LIKE to test installs.... | 02:18 |
| cellofellow | I don't think testing in a vm counts, so I'll let it lie. | 02:18 |
| vidd | somerville32 remember that i reinstalled edgy like 20 times before i got it to work right? | 02:19 |
| somerville32 | vidd: hehe | 02:19 |
| === somerville32 marks vidd as the official Xubuntu tester. | ||
| vidd | somerville32, im testing the alt cd..ok? | 02:19 |
| somerville32 | kk | 02:19 |
| vidd | the live never liked my systems | 02:19 |
| cellofellow | to install the generic kernel, do I just have to install linux-generic? | 02:20 |
| vidd | somerville32, s/the/a ? | 02:20 |
| vidd | i CANT be the ONLY one! | 02:21 |
| cellofellow | !linux-generic | 02:21 |
| ubotu | linux-generic: Complete Generic Linux kernel. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.17.10 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB | 02:21 |
| xorg_start | i just installed xserver and now its not booting the kernel | 02:22 |
| cellofellow | :o | 02:22 |
| vidd | xorg_start, that is SO wrong! | 02:23 |
| vidd | that is windows-live-cd wrong! | 02:23 |
| xorg_start | can anyone help me? | 02:23 |
| cellofellow | xorg_start: what's grub's config look like? | 02:23 |
| xorg_start | it just freezes after booting the kernel | 02:24 |
| xorg_start | or rather at that stage | 02:24 |
| xorg_start | uncompressing linux....OK, booting the kernel, and now it just sits | 02:25 |
| cellofellow | any error messages? | 02:25 |
| xorg_start | nope | 02:25 |
| xorg_start | just won't bring up a GUI or command line | 02:25 |
| xorg_start | just sits there | 02:25 |
| cellofellow | what are the options? ro quiet? | 02:25 |
| xorg_start | yes, i think i saw that | 02:25 |
| xorg_start | its still on my other screen | 02:25 |
| vidd | hit <cntr><alt><f2> | 02:25 |
| xorg_start | ok | 02:26 |
| xorg_start | nothing happened | 02:26 |
| cellofellow | if init hasn't done squat, which it can't do till the kernel has booted, that won't work. | 02:26 |
| cellofellow | init sets up the v-terms | 02:26 |
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| vidd | cellofellow, ooppss | 02:26 |
| cellofellow | is savedefault in there, xorg_start? | 02:26 |
| === vidd still has things to learn | ||
| xorg_start | can i somehow do a safemode for xubuntu starting | 02:27 |
| xorg_start | i can catch it on grub start up when it counts from 2 | 02:27 |
| xorg_start | thats it | 02:27 |
| cellofellow | press esc, then choose "recovery mode, which give you a cli environment as root. | 02:27 |
| vidd | xorg_start, yes...its called recovery mode i think | 02:27 |
| xorg_start | ok, i'll try | 02:28 |
| vidd | cellofellow, you type fast.... | 02:28 |
| cellofellow | I do? | 02:28 |
| === vidd needs to renew his hunting licence for the keyboard.... | ||
| xorg_start | ok, i think i found the error, its bigtron on the kernel that won't boot | 02:29 |
| cellofellow | you don't touch-type? I don't properly either, have to look now and then. | 02:29 |
| cellofellow | bigtron? | 02:29 |
| xorg_start | how do i remove bigtron? sudo apt-get remove *bigtron*? | 02:29 |
| cellofellow | what is bigtron? | 02:30 |
| === vidd looks for the key...touches it and it shows up...does that count? | ||
| vidd | lol | 02:30 |
| xorg_start | i don't know, is there a way i can get a GUI working on xubuntu? | 02:30 |
| xorg_start | i have xorg and xserver files (all of them) installed | 02:30 |
| xorg_start | startx isn't recognized | 02:31 |
| vidd | xorg_start, or probably have file mis-match causing issue | 02:31 |
| cellofellow | do you have GDM and xubuntu-desktop installed? | 02:31 |
| xorg_start | xubuntu server | 02:31 |
| cellofellow | gdm not required. | 02:31 |
| xorg_start | i thought it would come with GUI installed by not startup by default | 02:31 |
| cellofellow | xubuntu server doesn't exist. Ubuntu server does though. | 02:31 |
| vidd | sudo apt-get remove xorg8 | 02:31 |
| xorg_start | 8 = *? | 02:31 |
| cellofellow | xubuntu means XFCE desktop | 02:31 |
| vidd | then reboot | 02:32 |
| vidd | tell us if you get a command line | 02:32 |
| xorg_start | im there now | 02:32 |
| cellofellow | runlevel 1? | 02:32 |
| xorg_start | but it says i can't find xorg or xserver* packages when i run | 02:32 |
| cellofellow | single user | 02:32 |
| xorg_start | yeah, if thats terminal | 02:32 |
| xorg_start | yeah | 02:32 |
| vidd | did you apt-get remove xorg* ? | 02:32 |
| xorg_start | i ran that sudo | 02:32 |
| vidd | did you reboot? | 02:33 |
| cellofellow | no sudo needed if you see a # at the prompt instead of a $. | 02:33 |
| vidd | damnit! | 02:33 |
| xorg_start | i didn't reboot | 02:33 |
| xorg_start | because it didn't find anything to remove | 02:33 |
| xorg_start | even though i had installed both | 02:33 |
| xorg_start | and thats what caused the kernel hiccup | 02:33 |
| cellofellow | sell, install xubuntu-desktop or fluxbox if you want something lighter. They'll drag in and install all you need. | 02:34 |
| xorg_start | ok, sudo apt-get install fluxbox* | 02:34 |
| xorg_start | will that work | 02:34 |
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| xorg_start | it can't find the fluxbox gui | 02:35 |
| cellofellow | ok, lesson here, don't try to open two instances of the same OS, one host and the other in a VM. | 02:35 |
| xorg_start | i only installed xubuntu, no other OS | 02:35 |
| cellofellow | xorg_start: can we see your /etc/apt/sources.list? | 02:35 |
| xorg_start | sure, i'd have to type it all out though here | 02:35 |
| cellofellow | fluxbox is a window manager. The one in DSL if you've used that. | 02:35 |
| xorg_start | yeah | 02:36 |
| cellofellow | xorg_start: in pastebin please. | 02:36 |
| cellofellow | !pastebin | 02:36 |
| xorg_start | it'll work, but what is the deb name | 02:36 |
| ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | 02:36 |
| xorg_start | how do i apt-get install it | 02:36 |
| cellofellow | xorg_start: apt-get install fluxbox, no * I think apt doesn't use wildcards. | 02:36 |
| xorg_start | still can't find fluxbox, the sources.list is the default that came with xubuntu | 02:37 |
| xorg_start | i formatted and everything b4 installing, just commented out that one CD use line | 02:37 |
| vidd | i think he used a wildcard b4...and that is what caused his issue | 02:37 |
| cellofellow | it's in universe, so you'll have to uncomment/add universe to the file. | 02:37 |
| xorg_start | ok, i'll try to find that in the sources.list | 02:37 |
| === vidd wonders if he should start for ground zero and start fresh | ||
| xorg_start | the CD is no good, its scratched | 02:38 |
| xorg_start | took 2 times to run the install to get it to even install to be usable | 02:38 |
| cellofellow | why'd you use a scratched CD? | 02:39 |
| xorg_start | and i have to use xubuntu 6.06 alt. | 02:39 |
| xorg_start | laptop is being repaired, along with it, the cd burner | 02:39 |
| cellofellow | oh. :( | 02:39 |
| cellofellow | no friends you could borrow CD burner for a minute from? | 02:39 |
| xorg_start | after i install fluxbox, how do i start it and start it up when i start xubuntu | 02:39 |
| xorg_start | it found it in the univ. packages | 02:40 |
| vidd | reboot | 02:40 |
| cellofellow | you'll have to muck around, but I think startfluxbox will work. | 02:40 |
| cellofellow | no, it won't start automatically yet, not without GDM installed. | 02:40 |
| xorg_start | sudo apt-get install GDM*? | 02:40 |
| cellofellow | no *, and just gdm | 02:41 |
| vidd | xorg_start, no "*" in apt-get | 02:41 |
| xorg_start | ok | 02:41 |
| vidd | ever | 02:41 |
| xorg_start | usually the star helped me remember the name | 02:41 |
| xorg_start | if i got it wrong | 02:41 |
| xorg_start | or when i delete things :O | 02:41 |
| vidd | using the * is probably what got yoiu here in the first place | 02:41 |
| cellofellow | you can type apt-get install gd<tab> and it'll tab complete like commands. | 02:42 |
| cellofellow | two tabs to see a list. | 02:42 |
| xorg_start | thats awesome, that will end the use of the star for me | 02:42 |
| vidd | cellofellow, i dont think you can auto-complete package installs | 02:42 |
| cellofellow | vidd: debian patched bash to do it. I use it all the time. | 02:43 |
| vidd | sweet | 02:43 |
| vidd | when? | 02:43 |
| cellofellow | sometime at or before Sarge. | 02:43 |
| cellofellow | I know it works in sarge. | 02:43 |
| vidd | really? | 02:43 |
| xorg_start | startfluxbox gave me errors, i'm rebooting | 02:43 |
| cellofellow | uh huh | 02:43 |
| cellofellow | ok | 02:43 |
| vidd | cellofellow, he going to need to reinstall from jump street | 02:44 |
| xorg_start | bigiron is killing my kernel | 02:44 |
| vidd | with a good disk | 02:44 |
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| cellofellow | whatever bigiron is | 02:44 |
| xorg_start | i don't know | 02:44 |
| xorg_start | its at the end of the kernel | 02:44 |
| xorg_start | and its not allowing the kernel to load | 02:44 |
| vidd | apt-get remove bigiron | 02:44 |
| xorg_start | and freezing it at that screen | 02:44 |
| xorg_start | yeah | 02:44 |
| xorg_start | what im gonna do next when i get back to terminal | 02:44 |
| vidd | you said you using 6.06 or 6.10? | 02:45 |
| cellofellow | let me see the menu.lst later. | 02:45 |
| cellofellow | dapper he said | 02:45 |
| xorg_start | 6.06, dapper | 02:45 |
| xorg_start | alternative version | 02:45 |
| vidd | what is the autoremove command in dapper? | 02:45 |
| xorg_start | sudo apt-get remove _____? | 02:45 |
| cellofellow | not alt version, just means text installation instead of live. | 02:45 |
| cellofellow | apt-get autoremove | 02:45 |
| cellofellow | I think | 02:45 |
| xorg_start | yeah, and it installs slower | 02:45 |
| xorg_start | but its more stable i have found | 02:46 |
| cellofellow | alt is faster, no X overheah. | 02:46 |
| cellofellow | overhead | 02:46 |
| vidd | xorg_start, if you ask me, it installs better5 | 02:46 |
| xorg_start | yeah, it does, but slower | 02:46 |
| vidd | ive used both....alt is not slower | 02:46 |
| cellofellow | I've used the same installer program in debain sarge. Not bad. I did the net-install, only took an hour. | 02:46 |
| xorg_start | startfluxbox doesn't work | 02:46 |
| xorg_start | its getting too many errors | 02:47 |
| vidd | heck...its twice as long cuzz ya gotr to wait for the thing to load | 02:47 |
| cellofellow | is xserver-xorg installed properly? | 02:47 |
| xorg_start | i don't think, no | 02:47 |
| cellofellow | well, there you go. | 02:47 |
| vidd | apt-get remove x11-common | 02:47 |
| vidd | apt-get autoremove | 02:47 |
| cellofellow | xserver-xorg too. | 02:48 |
| xorg_start | ok, i'll do both of those after removing bigiron | 02:48 |
| vidd | apt-get install xubuntu-desktop | 02:48 |
| cellofellow | then aptitude install xserver-xorg. aptitude so you don't have to worry about autoremove later. | 02:48 |
| xorg_start | ok, i'll try those four | 02:48 |
| vidd | cellofellow, then shouldnt he do aptitue remove bigiron x11-common? | 02:49 |
| cellofellow | nah, install with apt-get, remove with apt-get, install with aptitude, remove with aptitude. They're fundementally different and don't like being mixed too much. | 02:50 |
| vidd | cellofellow, if he removes x11-common, it will take out xserver-xorg | 02:50 |
| cellofellow | ok | 02:50 |
| vidd | well....thye autoremove will anyway, cuzz xserver-xorg depends on x11-common | 02:51 |
| xorg_start | invalid operation: autoremove | 02:51 |
| vidd | or do i have that backwards? | 02:51 |
| vidd | somerville32, what is the autoremove in apt back in dapper? | 02:52 |
| xorg_start | can't do a sudo apt-get autoremove | 02:52 |
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| xorg_start | i did the apt-get remove x11-common, can i do the sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop now? | 02:52 |
| vidd | xorg_start, no | 02:52 |
| xorg_start | ok | 02:53 |
| vidd | apt-get -h | 02:53 |
| cellofellow | why not? | 02:53 |
| xorg_start | that pulled up a list | 02:53 |
| vidd | cuzz he needs to get all the stuff that depended on it out too | 02:53 |
| cellofellow | xorg_start: on second thought, sudo apt-get purge x11-common, xserver-xorg* | 02:53 |
| cellofellow | vidd: oh, yeah | 02:53 |
| mafu | Does anyone have a good guess on where under /dev an internal card reader can be found? | 02:53 |
| cellofellow | apt-cache show x11-common, and it will show depends | 02:54 |
| cellofellow | mafu: if it's IDE, then hd[letter] [number] | 02:54 |
| vidd | xorg_start, what in the list looks like a command to remove dependencies? | 02:54 |
| xorg_start | invalid operation: purge | 02:54 |
| cellofellow | purge doesn't work either? | 02:55 |
| xorg_start | nope | 02:55 |
| cellofellow | reinstall, and then use aptitude from here on out. | 02:55 |
| xorg_start | i have no CD to reinstall | 02:55 |
| xorg_start | nor a CD burner | 02:55 |
| vidd | give me a sec | 02:55 |
| xorg_start | ok | 02:56 |
| vidd | i think i found it | 02:56 |
| cellofellow | I have an edgy DVD here, with the server, alt, and live modes. | 02:56 |
| cellofellow | I'm gonna reboot. I installed the generic kernel and want to get it working. | 02:56 |
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| xorg_start | just want to let everyone know im still here | 03:00 |
| vidd | apt-get -f install | 03:01 |
| xorg_start | ok, i'll do that command | 03:02 |
| xorg_start | 0 0 0 and 0 | 03:02 |
| xorg_start | it didn't do anything to the system | 03:02 |
| vidd | reboot | 03:02 |
| xorg_start | ok | 03:02 |
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| vidd | wb cellofellow | 03:03 |
| xorg_start | reboot done | 03:04 |
| vidd | any luck? | 03:04 |
| xorg_start | the iron remove thing got the kernel working | 03:04 |
| xorg_start | but no GUI still | 03:04 |
| vidd | do you have a command line? | 03:05 |
| xorg_start | yeah | 03:05 |
| xorg_start | should i run the sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop? | 03:05 |
| cellofellow | yeah | 03:05 |
| vidd | yeah | 03:05 |
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| xorg_start | ok, will do | 03:05 |
| xorg_start | downloading 930 MB | 03:06 |
| xorg_start | this should take some time | 03:06 |
| vidd | sounds like a good thing to me | 03:06 |
| cellofellow | yeah, I've done it. told it to and went to bed. | 03:06 |
| xorg_start | when this thing is done, i am guessing i'll return to terminal, then all i have to do is a sudo reboot to get xubuntu desktop? | 03:06 |
| vidd | when it is done, just reboot | 03:06 |
| xorg_start | b4 i do that | 03:06 |
| xorg_start | my computer only works on low res | 03:07 |
| xorg_start | 400x600 | 03:07 |
| xorg_start | or maybe the 800x600 | 03:07 |
| cellofellow | not even that, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start will get you a desktop. | 03:07 |
| xorg_start | is there a special command for that | 03:07 |
| xorg_start | or will it autoconfig it | 03:07 |
| cellofellow | you can do sudo dpgk-reconfigure xserver-xorg and set up the resolution and driver settings. | 03:07 |
| xorg_start | oh, i forgot to do the sudo apt-get install gdm | 03:07 |
| vidd | it wi;l auto load | 03:08 |
| cellofellow | xorg_start: no nead, included in x-desktop | 03:08 |
| xorg_start | ok, sweet | 03:08 |
| xorg_start | i'll just have to sit this out while these packages download then, thak you all for your help and time | 03:08 |
| xorg_start | *thank | 03:08 |
| cellofellow | it's ok. have fun | 03:08 |
| vidd | that is what we are here for... | 03:08 |
| cellofellow | ...to have fun helping | 03:09 |
| vidd | that and to hear you say "IT WORKED!!!" | 03:09 |
| vidd | that is the pay we get | 03:09 |
| vidd | =] | 03:09 |
| xorg_start | by chance before i go, is there a stable version of TOR out for xubuntu? | 03:10 |
| cellofellow | there should be something in the repos. | 03:10 |
| cellofellow | they come from Debian Sid. | 03:10 |
| xorg_start | im gonna host a TOR node, and was wondering if there was, or if i have to compile it myself again | 03:10 |
| vidd | what ir TOR? | 03:11 |
| xorg_start | last i saw was a 0.1.1.3 or something like that version | 03:11 |
| xorg_start | you can search TOR network on wikipedia | 03:11 |
| xorg_start | its an encrypted proxy tunneling program | 03:11 |
| cellofellow | something that can get you in trouble if you abuse it. | 03:11 |
| xorg_start | as with anything in life | 03:12 |
| vidd | get me in trouble? | 03:12 |
| xorg_start | not hosting | 03:12 |
| vidd | like jail-time trouble? | 03:12 |
| xorg_start | you're only responsible for what you do | 03:12 |
| xorg_start | not other people | 03:12 |
| xorg_start | theres more info on wikipedia | 03:12 |
| cellofellow | vidd: dunno about jail-time, but expuslion from universities I've heard of. | 03:13 |
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| xorg_start | or they shut you down :) | 03:13 |
| xorg_start | happy times | 03:13 |
| xorg_start | im out, thanks again | 03:13 |
| vidd | sounds like ppl in black suits kicking down your door to me | 03:13 |
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| Jester45 | im having troble with usb drives they dont show up on the desktop or thunar but my ipod works | 03:23 |
| Jester45 | any ideas why | 03:23 |
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| crimsun | hal issue? | 03:24 |
| cellofellow | that's what I thought | 03:25 |
| cellofellow | he aint getting /dev files either | 03:25 |
| Jester45 | nothing happens when i plug them in | 03:25 |
| Jester45 | i will brbr i got to wash dishes | 03:27 |
| crimsun | well, if udev isn't enumerating anything, hal can't | 03:28 |
| cellofellow | crimsun: know anything about v4l? | 03:30 |
| crimsun | enough to know only what's necessary to keep it out of my life. | 03:31 |
| cellofellow | :( | 03:31 |
| cellofellow | know how to get a nogatech x10 working? | 03:31 |
| crimsun | negative. | 03:31 |
| cellofellow | know anyone who would? | 03:31 |
| crimsun | I'm sure Geert would | 03:32 |
| vidd | cellofellow, what device you trying to get to work? | 03:32 |
| cellofellow | vidd: it's an iREZ analog video to usb adapter. Nogatech x10 chipset. | 03:33 |
| cellofellow | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=332215 | 03:33 |
| vidd | http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=509 | 03:34 |
| vidd | cellofellow, that help any? | 03:35 |
| cellofellow | I didn't think usbvision would work. Only thing is, I dunno how to install third-party drivers like that from source. | 03:36 |
| cellofellow | 8 FPS? ouch | 03:37 |
| vidd | i take it that is a BAD thing? | 03:37 |
| cellofellow | well, I was hoping for 16 at least, 30 tops I would use. 8 FPS is like a slideshow | 03:38 |
| vidd | my ignorance hanging out again? | 03:40 |
| cellofellow | I guess so. | 03:40 |
| cellofellow | FPS == Frames per Second. | 03:40 |
| cellofellow | the FPS should be high enough you can't see individual frames, and it flows into a moving picture. | 03:40 |
| cellofellow | the eye sees at 16 FPS, so to be smooth, it needs to be at least 16 FPS. | 03:41 |
| cellofellow | I found usbvision in a "being packaged" list on debian.org | 03:42 |
| Jester45 | ok im back | 03:43 |
| vidd | shouldnt be TOO hard to tweek it to run faster? | 03:43 |
| cellofellow | hi | 03:43 |
| vidd | so cellofellow what ya learning in school (well, at home school)? | 03:45 |
| vidd | any particular career path? | 03:45 |
| Jester45 | cellofellow: the eye sees at 300 or more fps you just cant notice when its about about 60 i can tell the diffrent of 30 and 60 | 03:45 |
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| Jester45 | cellofellow: many windows games have a cap of fps ether at 60 orthe max the montiter go like mine is 75 so when in windows i only get 75 tops without rigging the games | 03:46 |
| cellofellow | oh, I just read something about the human eye seeing at 16 and a birds, in a bird book once upon a time, can see much higher and it gives them faster reflexes in flight. | 03:46 |
| crimsun | think hummingbirds | 03:47 |
| cellofellow | parakeets it was actually. I was reading on them when I got mine. I was about 10 or 11. | 03:47 |
| vidd | maybe you miss read or remembered incorectly... | 03:49 |
| cellofellow | maybe, but I doubt it. | 03:49 |
| vidd | photo graphic memory? | 03:50 |
| cellofellow | sometimes. | 03:51 |
| cellofellow | 'cept when it comes to what time things are at. | 03:52 |
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| vidd | ya lose trake of time, or you forget dates and times? | 03:57 |
| Jester45 | i got prefect memory on useless things | 03:58 |
| vidd | like the ways to annoy ppl? | 03:58 |
| vidd | just kidding | 03:58 |
| Jester45 | like kintergarden you had to takes a test on cuting a circle out of a peice of papper you where tested if you turned the paper or switched hands or turned your hands | 03:59 |
| vidd | that is sick | 03:59 |
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| vidd | lol | 03:59 |
| Jester45 | im in 10th grade but still thats 11 years ago | 04:00 |
| vidd | the 10th grade was like 20 years ago.... | 04:00 |
| Jester45 | and i remeber whe things are very well | 04:00 |
| Jester45 | for you | 04:00 |
| vidd | yeah...im old | 04:01 |
| vidd | im probably the oldest person here | 04:01 |
| Jester45 | and i mis type when i type to fast at home but i school i type a bit slowe with lots better erorr missing | 04:01 |
| === Jester45 is older | ||
| Jester45 | im the youngest | 04:02 |
| === vidd needs to renew his hunting licence for the keyboard | ||
| Jester45 | anyone younger then 16? | 04:02 |
| Jester45 | ok back to my usb stuff | 04:03 |
| Jester45 | do you know hwo to fix it? | 04:03 |
| vidd | its broke, get a new one | 04:03 |
| vidd | =] | 04:03 |
| vidd | what is the issue? | 04:03 |
| Jester45 | when i plug in a usb drive nothing happens when i plug in an ipod it works | 04:04 |
| Jester45 | any ideas on why and how to fix | 04:04 |
| vidd | do you mount the drive? | 04:04 |
| Jester45 | no nothing happens | 04:05 |
| vidd | i dont think xubuntu (Xfce) auto mounts anything | 04:05 |
| Jester45 | but no icons the system doesnt know i plug it in | 04:05 |
| vidd | i was asking if you run the command to mount the drive | 04:05 |
| Jester45 | no i didnt have to b4 | 04:05 |
| vidd | what did you change? | 04:06 |
| Jester45 | i pluged it in a icon appered on the desktop then i right click and press mount | 04:06 |
| Jester45 | nothing that i know of | 04:06 |
| Jester45 | it worked a day or to ago | 04:06 |
| vidd | hafve you rebooted? | 04:06 |
| vidd | uptime[3d 2h 21m 41s] | 04:06 |
| cellofellow | he can't mount an non-existent file like /dev/sda1 | 04:06 |
| Jester45 | yes i have | 04:07 |
| cellofellow | the dev files don't show | 04:07 |
| Jester45 | cellofellow knows a little more then what i said | 04:07 |
| vidd | does this drive work on another system? | 04:07 |
| Jester45 | yes | 04:07 |
| Jester45 | works fine i used it today | 04:07 |
| vidd | you use it on another system AFTER it didnt work on this one? | 04:08 |
| Jester45 | they need external ide drives | 04:08 |
| Jester45 | i have used on linux first then on windows thn linux then windows it worked fine on both | 04:08 |
| Jester45 | until now linux doesnt understand | 04:09 |
| cellofellow | what about usb thumbdrives, do those work? | 04:09 |
| Jester45 | no thats the borken tyhing | 04:09 |
| vidd | you have a windows that you can try it on now? | 04:09 |
| Jester45 | my ipod works on the same port | 04:09 |
| Jester45 | not right know but im telling you it worked a few hours ago | 04:10 |
| cellofellow | how do I fix this: ? | 04:10 |
| cellofellow | make -C /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/build SUBDIRS=/home/josh/Downloads/usbvision/src modules | 04:10 |
| cellofellow | make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/build: No such file or directory. Stop. | 04:10 |
| Jester45 | yesterday it didnt work on linux today it worked on window and now not on linux | 04:10 |
| Jester45 | you missing a directory | 04:10 |
| Jester45 | or file | 04:10 |
| cellofellow | yeah, what package is that directory in? | 04:10 |
| cellofellow | build-stuff for generic kernel | 04:11 |
| Jester45 | humm | 04:11 |
| Jester45 | im gonna try qemu on DSL and check | 04:11 |
| cellofellow | duh. linux-hearders-`uname -r` | 04:13 |
| cellofellow | headers | 04:13 |
| Jester45 | lol | 04:14 |
| Jester45 | silly cellofellow | 04:14 |
| Jester45 | arrrg | 04:21 |
| cellofellow | what now? | 04:21 |
| Jester45 | i really need to take somthing to school but its stuck on this computer | 04:21 |
| Jester45 | and i cant dl it from school | 04:22 |
| Jester45 | they log EVERYTHING its so hard to do stuff | 04:22 |
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| Jester45 | they log keystrokes and take screenshot every 5 mins | 04:24 |
| vidd | big brother in the schools? | 04:26 |
| vidd | how big is the file? | 04:26 |
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| Jester45 | 2gb :) | 04:29 |
| vote4arealclown | ok....i know you always get this question | 04:29 |
| vote4arealclown | i just installed xubuntu | 04:29 |
| vote4arealclown | how to I get the gui to launch? | 04:29 |
| Jester45 | umm | 04:29 |
| vote4arealclown | i tryed startx | 04:29 |
| Jester45 | did you use server install? | 04:30 |
| vidd | gdm | 04:30 |
| Jester45 | listen to vidd | 04:30 |
| vote4arealclown | i did the oem install | 04:30 |
| vidd | *slaps forehead | 04:30 |
| vidd | this computer being given away to someone else? | 04:31 |
| vote4arealclown | nope | 04:31 |
| vote4arealclown | i can reinstall its just a virtual machine | 04:31 |
| vidd | then why use OEM install? | 04:31 |
| vidd | use text install | 04:31 |
| vote4arealclown | cause i'm new | 04:31 |
| vote4arealclown | brb | 04:31 |
| vidd | ok | 04:31 |
| vote4arealclown | i'll reinstall thats like 5 mins | 04:32 |
| vidd | oem = Original Equiptment Manufacturer | 04:32 |
| vidd | dont feal bad...LOTS of ppl install the OEM by mistake | 04:33 |
| Jester45 | i just held enter down | 04:33 |
| Jester45 | omg | 04:35 |
| xorg_start | back | 04:35 |
| Jester45 | i was at 99% and i stoped the dl | 04:35 |
| vidd | wb | 04:35 |
| vidd | Jester45, lol | 04:36 |
| xorg_start | thanks, the sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop failed | 04:36 |
| xorg_start | can't find the ubuntu.com server (146.x.x.x) | 04:36 |
| vidd | what was the error? | 04:36 |
| Jester45 | xorg_start: why? | 04:36 |
| xorg_start | says it failed to connect to it | 04:36 |
| xorg_start | i can get to internet sites through www-browser | 04:36 |
| xorg_start | but it gave me this error: | 04:36 |
| xorg_start | Bad Gateway: 146.x.x.x 80 | 04:36 |
| Jester45 | xorg_start: try a apt-get update then run apt-get again | 04:36 |
| xorg_start | i can't even apt-get update | 04:37 |
| xorg_start | it says bad gateway | 04:37 |
| vidd | reboot | 04:37 |
| xorg_start | i can get to this: | 04:37 |
| vidd | dhcp failed | 04:37 |
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| xorg_start | www-browser http://whatismyip.com | 04:37 |
| === Jester45 misses how a reboot fixes so many things with windows | ||
| xorg_start | or any other website | 04:37 |
| xorg_start | a reboot shouldn't help | 04:37 |
| vidd | lol Jester45 | 04:37 |
| xorg_start | its not a DHCP or DNS problem | 04:38 |
| xorg_start | unless ubuntu.com just switched IPs for their DNS | 04:38 |
| xorg_start | and its cached | 04:38 |
| vidd | check your sources.list | 04:38 |
| Jester45 | i think ubuntu.com is stuck at that ip | 04:38 |
| Jester45 | so we dot get problems like that | 04:39 |
| xorg_start | its back up | 04:39 |
| xorg_start | server glitch on their end | 04:39 |
| vidd | ok..they needed a reboot | 04:39 |
| vidd | lol | 04:39 |
| Jester45 | oo no | 04:39 |
| xorg_start | lol, yeah, its working now | 04:39 |
| xorg_start | have to redownload all 940 mb | 04:39 |
| Jester45 | a linux server reboot...windows/linux combining? | 04:39 |
| xorg_start | ahhh, another 30 min | 04:40 |
| xorg_start | eat time, i'll b back with a report later, thanks again | 04:40 |
| Jester45 | it would be nice if ubuntu was donate a biggr pipe | 04:40 |
| vidd | linux servers on occation DO need to be restarted | 04:40 |
| vidd | its like once a YEAR, but they sometimes need to be rebooted | 04:40 |
| Jester45 | yea like major upgrades | 04:40 |
| Jester45 | or hardware fixes/upgrades | 04:41 |
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| Jester45 | wonder how that would work | 04:42 |
| Jester45 | gonna try that out this weekend maybe | 04:42 |
| === vidd thinks he smells burning flesh.... | ||
| Jester45 | i plugged a harddrive in while it was on | 04:42 |
| Jester45 | big blue flash | 04:42 |
| Jester45 | then computer whent off | 04:42 |
| vidd | it ever come back on? | 04:43 |
| Jester45 | then i sent drive back :) | 04:43 |
| Jester45 | yes | 04:43 |
| vote4arealclown | lmao | 04:43 |
| Jester45 | after a min with the power supply diconnected | 04:43 |
| Jester45 | anyone know about theiratebay? they are tring to get 50,000 USD to buy a offshore oil rig thing to run the servers on | 04:44 |
| vidd | i need a .deb for gxine | 04:44 |
| Jester45 | so they cant get shutdown | 04:44 |
| Jester45 | vidd: trade you one for a ati current version .deb | 04:44 |
| Jester45 | the repos are so old | 04:45 |
| === vidd has a feisty install | ||
| === Jester45 has hoary :) | ||
| Jester45 | i got edgy | 04:46 |
| vidd | what is the name of thje file? | 04:46 |
| Jester45 | what file | 04:46 |
| vidd | ill see what version feisty has | 04:46 |
| vidd | the ati | 04:46 |
| Jester45 | um | 04:46 |
| Jester45 | xorg-drivers-ati | 04:46 |
| Jester45 | i think | 04:47 |
| Jester45 | the edgy ones are version 1.somthing currents are 2.somthing | 04:47 |
| Jester45 | its a big diffrence | 04:47 |
| vidd | better check...there is not xorg-drives-ati in these repo's | 04:48 |
| Jester45 | im not sure what it is | 04:48 |
| Jester45 | !fglrx | 04:48 |
| ubotu | To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto | 04:48 |
| Jester45 | !info fglrx | 04:49 |
| ubotu | Package fglrx does not exist in any distro I know | 04:49 |
| Jester45 | darn | 04:49 |
| Jester45 | aa | 04:49 |
| vidd | xorg-driver-fglrx | 04:49 |
| Jester45 | xorg-driver-fglrx | 04:49 |
| vidd | 7.1.0-8.32.5+2.6.20 | 04:50 |
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| vidd | .1-6 | 04:51 |
| Jester45 | !info xorg-driver-fglrx | 04:51 |
| ubotu | xorg-driver-fglrx: Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators. In component restricted, is optional. Version 7.1.0-8.28.8+2.6.17.7-10.1 (edgy), package size 9181 kB, installed size 25892 kB | 04:51 |
| Jester45 | ooo you ogt newer one :) | 04:51 |
| vidd | !gxine | 04:51 |
| ubotu | gxine: the xine video player, GTK+/Gnome user interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.7-1ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 271 kB, installed size 1216 kB | 04:51 |
| Jester45 | its 0.0.04 newer | 04:51 |
| Jester45 | oo im getting a bad gateway for apt-get also | 04:52 |
| cellofellow | ooooh. I'm trying to compile the usbvision driver for Nogatech/Zoran webcams. It won't build. :( | 05:00 |
| vote4arealclown | night dudes | 05:00 |
| cellofellow | anyone have experience building kernel modules? | 05:01 |
| cellofellow | I'm on 2.6.17-10-generic, so anyone build on that kernel should work. | 05:02 |
| Jester45 | smack it | 05:04 |
| cellofellow | oooh. I found a patched version I think. | 05:18 |
| cellofellow | I wish I could smack the module. | 05:18 |
| cellofellow | looks like the driver is slated for inclusion in 2.6.20 | 05:19 |
| cellofellow | what kernel will feisty have? | 05:22 |
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| cellofellow | I have 2.6.15 hanging around from Dapper, 2.6.17 from Edgy. 2.6.17-generic I installed today. | 05:22 |
| yotux | Is there problems with installing a custom kernel? | 05:23 |
| cellofellow | maybe, depends on what's customized. I'm trying to build a video-capture driver module. | 05:23 |
| yotux | I have noticed that ndiswrapper failed :( | 05:24 |
| yotux | i have fixed it installed source | 05:24 |
| yotux | I am new to Xubuntu and not used the to rawness | 05:24 |
| cellofellow | I'm not worried about wireless. I'm worried about turning the old family video tapes into dvd's. | 05:24 |
| yotux | It allot of work but fun | 05:25 |
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| cellofellow | This version of this driver, the newest on the sourceforge site, is about a year old or moer. | 05:25 |
| cellofellow | so, it's not working properly. | 05:25 |
| yotux | I see | 05:25 |
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| cellofellow | it isn't building. | 05:26 |
| yotux | I don't know what to tell you | 05:27 |
| yotux | All of my kernel modules have went well so far | 05:27 |
| cellofellow | this one is just not liking the 2.6.17 header files, while it reportedly works with older kernels | 05:28 |
| yotux | Maybe you want to go backwards? | 05:29 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | What errors are you getting? | 05:30 |
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| cellofellow | ooops | 05:31 |
| cellofellow | same as this guy: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=501105&highlight=usbvision+ubuntu | 05:32 |
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| cellofellow | hi max | 05:34 |
| j1mc | hi all, currently i have grub installed in my MBR, but is there a way to move it to a different spot? i want to triple boot win2k, xubuntu, & fedora on my laptop. | 05:34 |
| j1mc | currently, i'm just dual booting bt xubuntu and win2k | 05:35 |
| cellofellow | so? just use grub to gook all three. fedora prefers lilo but doesn't mind grub | 05:35 |
| j1mc | but what if fedora or xubuntu needs to update grub . . . will it wipe out the other info? | 05:36 |
| j1mc | from the other distro? | 05:36 |
| cellofellow | xubuntu won't. dunno about fedora. | 05:36 |
| cellofellow | I think... | 05:36 |
| cellofellow | PuMpErNiCkLe: hello? | 05:37 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | The usual method is to add any new entries, and remove provably deprecated ones. If they modify Grub's config any other way, they're being silly. | 05:38 |
| cellofellow | update-grub is sometimes a little unreasonable. | 05:38 |
| cellofellow | PuMpErNiCkLe: what about the kernel module? | 05:38 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | It looks like bad code - I'd have to download it to see why, though. | 05:39 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | (Which I'm not up for, tonight - sorry.) | 05:40 |
| cellofellow | apparently it works in older kernels, and hasn't been update on sf.net since november 05 | 05:40 |
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| PuMpErNiCkLe | It may need to be patched to work with newer releases. | 05:44 |
| cellofellow | yeah. :( | 05:44 |
| maxamillion | i am so tired of Xubuntu being excluded from the *buntu family | 05:45 |
| cellofellow | Something about no ShipIt CD's? | 05:45 |
| maxamillion | no ... | 05:46 |
| maxamillion | http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=336037 | 05:46 |
| Jester45 | night | 05:46 |
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| cellofellow | I gtg. Cya. | 05:48 |
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| kalikiana | Can someone tell me how I loop through every *.po file in a folder using shell script? | 06:01 |
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| maxamillion | echo *.po ...? | 06:02 |
| kalikiana | maxamillion: I need something to apply several commands to every *.po file. | 06:03 |
| kalikiana | I'm really akward when it comes to shellscripting :/ | 06:03 |
| maxamillion | me too ... lemme check | 06:04 |
| maxamillion | kalikiana: well .. technically couldn't you just write it as a python script and just read all .po files into a list, then execute the commands in a loop? | 06:05 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/loops1.html | 06:06 |
| kalikiana | in python that wouldn't be a thing, right, but i'd like to have it in a shellscript.. | 06:06 |
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| maxamillion | kalikiana: fair enough | 06:07 |
| kalikiana | Pumpernickle: Thank you. | 06:09 |
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| Mungooz | Hello | 06:12 |
| maxamillion | hi | 06:14 |
| Mungooz | we can get help with xubuntu here? | 06:14 |
| kalikiana | Mungooz: Just ask. :) | 06:14 |
| kalikiana | We'll be glad to help. | 06:14 |
| Mungooz | awesome | 06:14 |
| Mungooz | How do I edit the main menu list that in the panel? | 06:15 |
| Mungooz | There are programs there that I don't want to be in there. | 06:15 |
| Mungooz | and some wine programs that were removed but still show up. | 06:16 |
| kalikiana | Open /usr/share/applications as root and delete or change the desktop files. | 06:16 |
| kalikiana | gksudo Thunar /usr/share/applications | 06:16 |
| Mungooz | ok thanks I'll give that a shot. | 06:18 |
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| hyper_ch | how can I quit the xsession? | 07:36 |
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| Commander-Crowe | pash | 08:28 |
| Commander-Crowe | hi all | 08:28 |
| kalikiana | hi | 08:30 |
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| hyper_ch | hiho Commander-Crowe | 08:40 |
| toxik` | Is there libSDL in apt? | 08:44 |
| hyper_ch | toxik`: search for it: apt-cache search SDL | 08:46 |
| toxik` | Oh, found it, but I can't find libopenal | 08:47 |
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| toxik` | Meh, do I have to build openAL myself? I can't find it with apt-cache search and I can't find anything but build fail info on google | 09:03 |
| toxik` | hm, I might be able to use the .deb from the debian aptitude repos, but how do I install a .deb? | 09:09 |
| kalikiana | toxik: doulbe-click | 09:10 |
| kalikiana | s/doulbe/double | 09:10 |
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| toxik` | kalikiana from a terminal? | 09:15 |
| kalikiana | toxik: "dpkg -x FILE" it is, i think | 09:17 |
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| toxik` | kalikiana: thank you | 09:21 |
| kalikiana | :) | 09:22 |
| toxik` | I got it running by using Thunar and double-clicking :-P | 09:22 |
| toxik` | Windows says my graphics card is "SiS 661FX 760 741 M661FX M760 M741" and my xubuntu is using Mesa video drivers, are there any faster options? | 09:37 |
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| hyper_ch | toxik`: please execute the folloing command in a shell terminal: lspci | grep vga | 09:47 |
| hyper_ch | toxik`: sorry: lspci | grep VGA | 09:48 |
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| toxik` | hyper_ch: I fixed it, sorry, I had to leave the terminal - I set the driver from mesa to sis | 10:05 |
| toxik` | Works like a charm now, thank you | 10:05 |
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| Sam___ | Hi everybody! | 10:08 |
| hyper_ch | hi Sam___ | 10:10 |
| Sam___ | I'vegot a question... | 10:10 |
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| Sam___ | A fresh installation of Xubuntu OS (Ex.Dapper-Drake) use, by default, ~40 RAM' s MByte. | 10:14 |
| Sam___ | Can I reduce RAM's usage, ex uninstalling some unuseless packages? | 10:14 |
| echosystm | you can reduce ram usage by disabling services and things that load on startup | 10:17 |
| echosystm | things that arent running wont use any ram | 10:17 |
| echosystm | :P | 10:17 |
| echosystm | that said, best way to get xubuntu running | 10:18 |
| echosystm | grab the alternate cd | 10:18 |
| echosystm | and do a minimal install | 10:18 |
| echosystm | so just like, xfce4, x-window-system-core, firefox, etc. | 10:18 |
| hyper_ch | Sam___: if you even need less stuff, then you may want to use another window manager than xfce | 10:18 |
| Sam___ | Well, for instance? | 10:19 |
| echosystm | blackbox | 10:19 |
| echosystm | icewm | 10:19 |
| echosystm | there are lots of others | 10:19 |
| echosystm | but if you dont have much experience with linux, you wont like them | 10:20 |
| hyper_ch | http://fluxbuntu.org/ | 10:20 |
| hyper_ch | Sam___: but this will then be a very lightweight desktop... #fluxbuntu | 10:22 |
| hyper_ch | Sam___: just depends on your hardware specs or what you want to do | 10:22 |
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| Sam___ | Yes, you all are right. | 10:23 |
| Sam___ | It's formy girl's PC. | 10:23 |
| Sam___ | Celeron 433, RAM=64MB... So... | 10:23 |
| Sam___ | Lightness and User friendlyness! | 10:23 |
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| hyper_ch | well, with that ram you very much may consider using fluxbuntu | 10:24 |
| hyper_ch | however xubuntu runs also | 10:24 |
| hyper_ch | Sam___: best would be to get another 64mb ram | 10:24 |
| hyper_ch | or even 128mb | 10:24 |
| hyper_ch | that would increase performance by much | 10:24 |
| noalternative | There is always ebay. | 10:25 |
| noalternative | it isn't expensive to buy ram | 10:25 |
| noalternative | I would put as much on as I could get. | 10:25 |
| hyper_ch | :) | 10:25 |
| Sam___ | Fluxbuntu use 37 RAM's MB, Xubuntu 39. | 10:26 |
| Sam___ | But Xub is more friendly! | 10:26 |
| noalternative | is fluxubuntu in final release yet? | 10:26 |
| hyper_ch | xubuntu only uses 39? | 10:26 |
| Sam___ | Yes, a fresh install | 10:26 |
| hyper_ch | Sam___: hmmm, ok :) | 10:27 |
| hyper_ch | well, then I still suggest try to hold of another 64 or 128mb ram | 10:27 |
| Sam___ | I was meaning substituting, for instance, firefox with dillo and others... | 10:30 |
| Sam___ | Any Idea? | 10:30 |
| hyper_ch | I run xubuntu because I like it most, not because I can't other things get to work | 10:30 |
| hyper_ch | well, I just love ff.... the only other browser I'd consider is Opera | 10:30 |
| hyper_ch | but I guess both use pretty much ram | 10:30 |
| noalternative | you might want to try feather linux. It is my favorite for machines 64 mb and under. It works with as little as 24 mb. http://featherlinux.berlios.de/ | 10:30 |
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| Sam___ | featherlinux.berlios.de | 10:35 |
| Sam___ | I'm downloading it. Tonight I'll try it | 10:35 |
| noalternative | good for you. | 10:35 |
| hyper_ch | noalternative: how to install it on a usb stick? | 10:35 |
| noalternative | don't be scared to try the messageboard either. we try to help. | 10:35 |
| noalternative | I believe there are instructions on the download page, but I have not done this so I can't answer myself. | 10:36 |
| noalternative | there would certainly be info in the forums. | 10:36 |
| hyper_ch | hmm, the ftp download doesn't work | 10:36 |
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| noalternative | One tip on feather sam. You need to update etc/apt/sources.list per these instruction. | 10:40 |
| noalternative | http://featherlinux.berlios.de/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2694&highlight= | 10:40 |
| noalternative | by the way does anyone know how to activate the grammar checker in abiword for xubuntu dapper drake? | 10:43 |
| Sam___ | And does anybody know how many Ram's MB a fresh featherlinux installation uses??? | 10:44 |
| hyper_ch | Sam___: actually a linux should always use close to 100% of the ram available... everything else is a waste of ram | 10:46 |
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| Sam___ | ??? | 10:46 |
| Sam___ | I mean. When I start my Xubuntu (I installed it yesterday, no other packages than those installed first time), and with NO Applications running (ex Abiword, firefox...) my RAM use 39 MB. | 10:50 |
| Sam___ | The question is: using featherlinux ? | 10:50 |
| noalternative | Here is what it says in doc section http://featherlinux.berlios.de/docs.htm | 10:50 |
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| toxik` | Hm, I can't for the life of me get Quake 3 to work under Xubuntu. First, it whines on me using Mesa (I don't, I use the sis driver for my gfx) and tell me to +set a cvar, which I do and then it complains about UI Version being 3, not 6 as expected. I am using ioQuake3, BTW. | 01:19 |
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| vidd | sorry toxik` no idea here | 01:31 |
| vidd | you using wine to run it or a linux version? | 01:32 |
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| totalwormage | :D | 01:43 |
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| toxik` | vidd: Ran the linux version - but I'm not at the computer anymore now though | 01:51 |
| vidd | oh ok | 01:51 |
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| heehowww | alguem ae pode me ajudar a instalar uma placa de video sis? | 01:52 |
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| PuMpErNiCkLe | !es | 01:53 |
| ubotu | Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda. | 01:53 |
| heehowww | anyone can help me install a sis graphic? | 01:54 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | What's the problem? | 01:55 |
| vidd | PuMpErNiCkLe, the new feisty did system update and took out synaptic | 01:56 |
| vidd | and dpkg | 01:57 |
| heehowww | PuMpErNiCkLe: the display only works at 1280x1024 at 61hz | 01:57 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | File a bug report, then. | 01:57 |
| heehowww | PuMpErNiCkLe: and it seems a bit slow | 01:57 |
| heehowww | PuMpErNiCkLe: so i think it is a problem with the driver | 01:58 |
| heehowww | PuMpErNiCkLe: cause it seems slow even at xfce | 01:58 |
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| heehowww | PuMpErNiCkLe: can u help me? | 02:00 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | What should it be capable of? | 02:00 |
| heehowww | PuMpErNiCkLe: how can i install the driver | 02:00 |
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| PuMpErNiCkLe | The driver's already installed. | 02:01 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | It's part of the base system. | 02:01 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | It might be possible to reconfigure it to give you a higher res or refresh rate, if that's what you're trying to get. | 02:01 |
| heehowww | PuMpErNiCkLe: yeah. can be it | 02:02 |
| heehowww | PuMpErNiCkLe: actually i would like to put it on 1024*768 85hz | 02:03 |
| heehowww | PuMpErNiCkLe: but when i work it. the display do not work | 02:03 |
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| case | hello | 02:10 |
| case | can someone tell me how to bind shortcuts like CTRL+1 ... CTRL+2 ... etc. to switch to workspace 1, 2, etc. ? | 02:11 |
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| Petaris | Hi all | 02:18 |
| case | errr... how can i lock the screen? O_o | 02:25 |
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| Petaris | case: try xlockscreen or a similar utility | 02:26 |
| Petaris | or see if the xfce lock screen widget is avaliable | 02:26 |
| FactTech | Question: Would it be safe to install the 'yelp' package on Xubuntu 6.10? I've been asked to do this as a possible fix to a bug, but I'm worried because there are so many GNOME-related packages required by 'yelp'. | 02:27 |
| case | hmmm it's strange... xscreensave is running, so it should be easy to lock the screen, but i can't find a way to interact with it... | 02:27 |
| Petaris | case: they are two different programs | 02:27 |
| Petaris | xlockscreen just uses xscreensave | 02:28 |
| case | well, it's strange that xscreensave is installed by default but not xlockscreen... | 02:28 |
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| Petaris | case: yes, but I have seen it that way on a number of installs | 02:28 |
| case | there is no package called xlockscreen... | 02:29 |
| Petaris | there are a couple differnt packages that do (practically) the same thing | 02:30 |
| Petaris | try one of them | 02:30 |
| Petaris | I don't remember the package names though | 02:30 |
| case | i think i'll make a launcher for "xscreensaver-command -activate" , but i think it's something xubuntu should make at install time :) | 02:31 |
| case | (-lock , not -activate...) | 02:33 |
| Petaris | ok, my question is how do I break the hibrinate, sleep, and shutdown buttons for xfce? | 02:34 |
| Petaris | the problem is that these buttons shut down the ltsp server, not the client | 02:34 |
| FactTech | My question got answered over at #ubuntu. No need to respond. | 02:35 |
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| jelly-home | Hi, what package is the xubuntu's suspend/hibernate/powerdown thing in, and (where) can I download the source for that? | 03:00 |
| jelly-home | In Debian, there is no such thing in xfce. | 03:02 |
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| totalwormage | jelly-home: are you sure? | 03:07 |
| jelly-home | totalwormage: positive | 03:07 |
| totalwormage | jelly-home: when you rightclick on the panel (hope you have a panel) and you say add item | 03:08 |
| totalwormage | there is no action buttons? | 03:08 |
| jelly-home | totalwormage: what should I add? | 03:08 |
| totalwormage | 'action buttons' | 03:08 |
| totalwormage | jelly-home: if you dont have that, i don't know how the package is named :] | 03:09 |
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| jelly | battery went out on the laptop, sorry | 03:11 |
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| jelly | anyway, there's no suspend on hibernate on Debian's action buttons. | 03:11 |
| jelly | s/on/or/ | 03:11 |
| totalwormage | the thing i tried to point you to is just one button | 03:12 |
| totalwormage | which pops up a screen with lock / logout restart functions | 03:12 |
| totalwormage | don't know if you meant that | 03:12 |
| Petaris | I have used both | 03:12 |
| jelly | totalwormage: yes, I have that. | 03:13 |
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| Petaris | xfce on ubuntu is different then xfce on anything else | 03:13 |
| === jelly wonders where to find these differences are why are they not propagated to upstream | ||
| Petaris | I don't know where those buttons come from though, maybe a compile option | 03:14 |
| Petaris | jelly, those probably depend on some other ubuntu bits | 03:14 |
| jelly | Petaris: which is why I'm here trying to find out about those bits | 03:15 |
| Petaris | like how they have the energy saving options configured | 03:15 |
| jelly | and possibly port them back into Debian | 03:15 |
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| Petaris | jelly: ahh | 03:17 |
| Petaris | ok | 03:17 |
| Petaris | Can anyone here tell me how to dissable the shutdown and restart buttons in xfce? | 03:18 |
| Petaris | and removing sudo doesn't work | 03:18 |
| Petaris | s/sudo/sudo rules | 03:18 |
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| yotux | How does a person know when there are updates for xubuntu? | 03:31 |
| Petaris | yotux: the update manager can tell you | 03:32 |
| yotux | Where is that at | 03:32 |
| yotux | Sorry I am not a real good user of xubuntu | 03:33 |
| Petaris | hrm, not sure | 03:33 |
| Petaris | run sudo update-manager and that will give it to you | 03:33 |
| yotux | ok | 03:33 |
| yotux | Petaris > I have used kubuntu and Ubuntu in the past | 03:33 |
| Petaris | run it from a terminal in x | 03:33 |
| yotux | ok | 03:33 |
| Petaris | or if you use the run from the menu remember to use gksudo instead | 03:34 |
| yotux | Petaris -> i have installed a custom kernel. So are the kernel updates important to me. i don;t think that they are something that I need. | 03:36 |
| Petaris | yotux: if your custom then you will want to keep building custom kernels to satisfy your needs, otherwise I wouldn't worry about it unless you want to switch back to the ubuntu kernels | 03:39 |
| yotux | I guess to me how often does a kernel really need to be updated? | 03:41 |
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| Petaris | yotux: Its ccompletly up to you | 03:41 |
| Petaris | :) | 03:41 |
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| Pirate-King | hello | 04:25 |
| gabkdlly | hi | 04:25 |
| Pirate-King | having trouble getting xubuntu to run on an old p200 128 megs of ram....craps out on video card | 04:26 |
| Pirate-King | will old video card work with xubuntu? | 04:27 |
| grazie | Pirate-King: what's the card? | 04:27 |
| gabkdlly | depends. it could be that xubuntu did not do the best job detecting your hardware. do you know what graphics device you have? | 04:28 |
| Pirate-King | diamond | 04:28 |
| Pirate-King | diamon multi media | 04:28 |
| grazie | Pirate-King: what's your problem? | 04:29 |
| Pirate-King | I installed it with the alternative install the go to start up and video card I think is not identified | 04:29 |
| Pirate-King | brb going to try something | 04:30 |
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| === Maximilian1st Hi folks. | ||
| hyper_ch | Hmm, I can't find any city for the weather applet... | 04:32 |
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| jelly | hyper_ch: what code are you entering? | 04:36 |
| hyper_ch | jelly: I'm trying to find cities | 04:36 |
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| jelly | hyper_ch: ok, which city are you trying to find? | 04:38 |
| hyper_ch | I tried altenrhein... I know there is one... I had in KDE | 04:38 |
| hyper_ch | then I tried zurich and berlin | 04:39 |
| jelly | hmm, Zurich works here (on debian though) | 04:39 |
| jelly | got two results. | 04:39 |
| hyper_ch | jelly: can you find St. Gallen | 04:39 |
| jelly | is your dns working? | 04:39 |
| hyper_ch | jelly: or Altenrhein and give me the weather location code | 04:40 |
| hyper_ch | jelly: how do you mean whether my dns is working? | 04:40 |
| jelly | neither Altenrhein nor "St. Gallen" | 04:40 |
| hyper_ch | and sankt gallen | 04:40 |
| jelly | hyper_ch: in terminal, try "host www.weathernetwork.com" for example. do you get an ip address? | 04:40 |
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| hyper_ch | jelly: no, no IP | 04:41 |
| jelly | hyper_ch: you might have dns problems then. | 04:42 |
| hyper_ch | jelly: everything else works fine | 04:42 |
| jelly | browsing the web? | 04:42 |
| hyper_ch | yes, browsing works fine | 04:43 |
| hyper_ch | host weathernetwork.com works fine | 04:44 |
| hyper_ch | v | 04:44 |
| hyper_ch | hyper@xubi:~$ host www.weathernetwork.com | 04:44 |
| hyper_ch | www.weathernetwork.com is an alias for www.weather.ca. | 04:44 |
| hyper_ch | www.weather.ca has address 72.14.162.3 | 04:44 |
| hyper_ch | www.weather.ca has address 72.14.162.2 | 04:44 |
| hyper_ch | www.weathernetwork.com is an alias for www.weather.ca. | 04:44 |
| hyper_ch | www.weathernetwork.com is an alias for www.weather.ca. | 04:44 |
| hyper_ch | do I need to open a specific port? | 04:44 |
| jelly | dunno, I'm trying to find out what exact network requests are made | 04:45 |
| hyper_ch | don't worry | 04:48 |
| jelly | be happy! (...) | 04:49 |
| hyper_ch | ^^ | 04:50 |
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| jelly | hyper_ch: the plugin does the search using a GET http request on url like this: http://xoap.weather.com/search/search?where=Cityname | 05:10 |
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| hyper_ch | thx | 05:11 |
| jelly-home | Also, the server is a bit picky and only accepts simple HTTP/1.0 requests, using a normal browser seems not to work. | 05:13 |
| jelly-home | http://paste.debian.net/19929 -- this is from ethereal | 05:14 |
| jelly-home | (that is, a capture done with ethereal) | 05:15 |
| jelly-home | you can try to do a "telnet xoap.weather.com 80", then your request and see what happens | 05:15 |
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| highvoltage | http://blogs.gnome.org/view/zucchi/2007/01/11/0 | 05:39 |
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| BrendanM | Hello, I've been having some problems with VPN and I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=336375 | 05:45 |
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| DeBert | I'm unable to mount a samba share, nothing seems to work... | 06:20 |
| DeBert | Any suggestions? | 06:20 |
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| ralyon | I have a new install of edgy on a toshiba satellite 330CDS and I can not get my pcmcia card slots to work or my usb. I get a noone cares on irq 11, try irqpoll and adding irqpoll to my kernel string causes a soft lockup detected on cpu0 and does not get rid of the irq error. I also get cardbus cards are not supported shortly after and being that the cardbus uses irq 11 I believe this to be... | 06:26 |
| ralyon | ...the problem. Can someone please help me with this? | 06:26 |
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| ralyon | brb, switching to anouther computer that doesn't keep resetting my connection | 06:39 |
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| ralyon | did I pose my question incorrectly or is there no one here to answer? | 06:49 |
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| grazie | ralyon: I can't help as I've no experience with laptops | 06:59 |
| ralyon | thanks for the response at least I know I have the irc working correctly. I don't use it very often | 06:59 |
| grazie | if you wait around I sure someone will be able help sort out your probelms | 07:00 |
| ralyon | I don't think its specific to laptops though with what I've found in searching | 07:00 |
| grazie | did the install go OK? USB usually works no problem | 07:00 |
| ralyon | most people seem to be able to fix the problem with the irqpoll | 07:00 |
| ralyon | install went fine as far as I can tell (no errors), the usb is second priority to getting the network working which needs the pcmcia working | 07:01 |
| grazie | what cpu and how much memory? | 07:02 |
| ralyon | I tried usb-handoff on the kernel line for boot with no changes and it appears to see the usb controller, just doesn't recognize either a usb memory stick or mouse at this point | 07:03 |
| ralyon | pentium 266 with 96mb ram, had to use the alternate install | 07:05 |
| grazie | any other os installed or been instralled previously? | 07:06 |
| ralyon | system seems very responsive espically considering the speed and its been running for a day with no lockups | 07:06 |
| ralyon | no other, let the install do a complete wipe | 07:06 |
| grazie | all hw worked OK before though? | 07:07 |
| ralyon | last os was clarkconnect as I was trying to use it a a firewall, vpn... | 07:07 |
| ralyon | not sure as it was giving to me, although the person who gave it to me said everything had worked for him | 07:08 |
| Pirate-King | ralyon what kind of videocard? | 07:08 |
| ralyon | C&T 65555, but I had to set xconfig to vesa to be able to get 800x600 working. before it would only get 640x480 | 07:09 |
| Pirate-King | hmmm | 07:09 |
| Pirate-King | ok | 07:09 |
| ralyon | chips was listed on xconfig which is what it had detected | 07:11 |
| Pirate-King | ok | 07:11 |
| Pirate-King | go a p200 with 128 megs of ram and tried to install but was using a 14 inch monitor couldn't see nothing | 07:12 |
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| ralyon | this is a 12.1 lcd and everything looks pretty good considering the age of the screen | 07:13 |
| Pirate-King | I bet | 07:13 |
| ralyon | lots of config and settings windows get cut off in 640x480 though which is very frustrating | 07:14 |
| ralyon | resolution was my first priority which took me about 2 ours to fix | 07:15 |
| Pirate-King | ok going to try on my 19 inch | 07:15 |
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| adon | hi all! could someone please tell me if there is a way to view an autocad file in xubuntu? | 07:42 |
| maxamillion | i am not entirely familiar with autocad, what file extension is it? | 07:43 |
| adon | .dwg | 07:43 |
| adon | it does export to other files but this is what i was sent. Never used it myself. | 07:44 |
| maxamillion | ok, just a moment | 07:44 |
| adon | Thanks :) | 07:44 |
| maxamillion | you need to edit them or just view them? | 07:45 |
| adon | just view them | 07:45 |
| maxamillion | adon: still looking, sorry for the wait | 07:47 |
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| adon | I hope you'll find something, it will make my life a lot easier | 07:49 |
| ralyon | adon: do you know what version of acad? | 07:51 |
| adon | i think it is 2004 | 07:52 |
| adon | just a moment to make sure | 07:53 |
| maxamillion | adon: here is a web alternative .... http://dwfit.com/index.aspx | 07:54 |
| ralyon | from what I remember, acads encryption after 2002 makes it very difficult to open with and non autodesk | 07:55 |
| maxamillion | i have to go ... i will bbl | 07:55 |
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| adon | maxamillion: I'm trying it now | 07:55 |
| adon | ralyon: if it is saved as an older version (I'm not sure it is posible) would it make a difference? | 07:57 |
| ralyon | yes if it was 2002 or earlier, but if you can have them resave it as a different format, your much better off with a dxf | 07:57 |
| ralyon | still noone able to help with my irq problem? | 07:59 |
| adon | ralyon: Ah, allright. Thanks a lot you've been great help :) | 08:01 |
| adon | ralyon: irq problem? | 08:01 |
| ralyon | get an error with an old toshiba laptop not being able to use irq 11 and wanting irqpoll, but irqpoll creates a soft lockup on cpu0 | 08:04 |
| BrendanM | hey, I've been having some problems with VPN and I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=336375 | 08:05 |
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| BrendanM | Anyone use network manager? | 08:16 |
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| synack__ | hi... was hoping someone could answer a question that's been bugging me lately... in xubuntu/edgy, the file dialog box. in dapper you use to be able to hit "/" and start typing a path to a file. Hitting enter would change you to that directory. Now in edgy you get a "location bar" that seems useless. Hitting enter does nothing, doesn't take you to that path. Is there a workaround for that? | 08:22 |
| synack__ | or is this more of a thunar related question? | 08:23 |
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| Beakster | hi | 08:35 |
| Beakster | im trying to set up a samba shared folder on my ubuntu box so windows can access it but having some problems | 08:35 |
| Beakster | can anyone help? | 08:35 |
| synack__ | do you already have samba somewhat configured? can you see it from the windows box? | 08:39 |
| Beakster | hi | 08:41 |
| Beakster | yes | 08:41 |
| Beakster | i can see it | 08:41 |
| Beakster | in MSHOME | 08:41 |
| Beakster | on the windows machine | 08:41 |
| Beakster | but i cant log in | 08:42 |
| synack__ | just can't access the share? or no shares listed? | 08:42 |
| Beakster | share is listed | 08:42 |
| Beakster | oh | 08:42 |
| Beakster | no | 08:42 |
| Beakster | sorry | 08:42 |
| Beakster | i double click the computer icon | 08:42 |
| Beakster | and then it asks for a password | 08:42 |
| Beakster | i try typing my login for the server but it just keeps asking | 08:42 |
| synack__ | did you make your smb.conf by hand, or were you using some graphical wizard deal? | 08:43 |
| Beakster | i used the Shared Folders that comes with XUbuntu | 08:43 |
| Beakster | this is the smb.conf: | 08:43 |
| Beakster | [video] | 08:43 |
| Beakster | path = /video | 08:43 |
| Beakster | comment = MythTV Media Storage | 08:43 |
| Beakster | available = yes | 08:43 |
| Beakster | browsable = yes | 08:43 |
| Beakster | public = yes | 08:43 |
| Beakster | writable = yes | 08:43 |
| Beakster | thats right at the end after all the standard stuff | 08:43 |
| Beakster | i dont know where i set username and password for it tho | 08:43 |
| Beakster | but | 08:44 |
| synack__ | this is just a simple home network right? you want to be able to watch you myth stuff from another house computer? | 08:44 |
| Beakster | yeah, but | 08:44 |
| Beakster | my friend can do it | 08:44 |
| Beakster | when it asks him for the login, he deletes the username and password so both fields are blank | 08:44 |
| Beakster | that works | 08:44 |
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| Beakster | but windows wont let me click the OK button without a username | 08:44 |
| synack__ | you shouldn't even have to... Let me grab my house server config... | 08:45 |
| Beakster | i think its cos my windows laptop is on a domain | 08:45 |
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| slow-motion | hallo | 08:45 |
| Beakster | hi | 08:45 |
| synack__ | http://stefan.dnsalias.net/smb.conf | 08:46 |
| synack__ | is my home server config | 08:46 |
| synack__ | well, truncated | 08:46 |
| synack__ | but that works for me without any qualms... | 08:47 |
| Beakster | when i connect to it does it ask for username/pass? | 08:47 |
| synack__ | nope | 08:47 |
| Beakster | ok, i'll compare my global settings with yours, thanks :) | 08:47 |
| synack__ | even when I use my work laptop (which is also joined to a domain.) | 08:48 |
| synack__ | I'd make a backup first | 08:48 |
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| Beakster | go it | 08:50 |
| Beakster | *got it | 08:50 |
| Beakster | i had to add the security = share line | 08:50 |
| Beakster | now it defauts to guest | 08:50 |
| Beakster | and lets me see the shares :) | 08:50 |
| Beakster | thanks | 08:50 |
| synack__ | no prob | 08:50 |
| Beakster | oh | 08:50 |
| Beakster | but now i cant get into my video share :S | 08:50 |
| synack__ | make sure you have guest ok = yes and browseable = yes... also check filesystem permissions... | 08:51 |
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| Beakster | hi | 08:53 |
| Beakster | sorry battey died | 08:53 |
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| synack__ | get it working? | 08:53 |
| Beakster | just trying something | 08:54 |
| ralyon | Can anyone help me with an irq problem on a toshiba satellite? | 08:54 |
| synack__ | ralyon, like a conflict? | 08:54 |
| Beakster | got it | 08:55 |
| synack__ | cool | 08:55 |
| ralyon | not as far as I can tell | 08:55 |
| Beakster | had to add guest ok = yes | 08:55 |
| Beakster | =) | 08:55 |
| Beakster | thanks =) | 08:55 |
| synack__ | no prob, again ;-) | 08:56 |
| synack__ | ralyon, what's it (not) doing? | 08:56 |
| ralyon | I have a new install of edgy on a toshiba satellite 330CDS and I can not get my pcmcia card slots to work or my usb. I get a noone cares on irq 11, try irqpoll and adding irqpoll to my kernel string causes a soft lockup detected on cpu0 and does not get rid of the irq error. I also get cardbus cards are not supported shortly after and being that the cardbus uses irq 11 I believe this to be... | 08:57 |
| ralyon | ...the problem. | 08:57 |
| ralyon | did that answer your question? | 08:59 |
| synack__ | sorry phone call brb | 08:59 |
| ralyon | ok | 08:59 |
| synack__ | it actually says something like noone cares on irq 11? | 09:01 |
| synack__ | what happens if you insert a card and run dmesg in a terminal? | 09:02 |
| synack__ | I was hoping someone could answer a question that's been bugging me lately... in xubuntu/edgy, the file dialog box. in dapper you use to be able to hit "/" and start typing a path to a file. Hitting enter would change you to that directory. Now in edgy you get a "location bar" that seems useless. Hitting enter does nothing, doesn't take you to that path. Is there a workaround for that? | 09:08 |
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| liquidengineer | Hello | 09:15 |
| liquidengineer | I've got a friend I'm setting up a Xubuntu laptop for | 09:15 |
| liquidengineer | He's got a netgear wg511 WiFi card, and I was told I'd need to use something called wpasupplicant to get it working | 09:15 |
| ralyon | exact message is 'irq 11: nobody cared (try booting with the "irqpoll" option)' | 09:16 |
| liquidengineer | I was wondering if there's a nice howto somewhere | 09:16 |
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| liquidengineer | I'd like to set it up so it mimics the windows expereince as much as possible...he's not very computer saavy at all, so I can't exepct him to muddle around in the command line. | 09:16 |
| ralyon | wireless like windows, can't say I've been successful in ever getting that before | 09:18 |
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| liquidengineer | well, as in, some sort of graphical control | 09:20 |
| liquidengineer | as in, "here's a list of available APs, double click on one and enter your password" | 09:20 |
| liquidengineer | He doesn't really understand the difference between WEP, WPA, etc., so if that was all transparent that'd be even better | 09:22 |
| ralyon | the ones I can remember you have to specify the ssid or just leave it to any | 09:23 |
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| liquidengineer | Hmm | 09:24 |
| ralyon | I'm afraid I haven't used wireless much myself | 09:24 |
| liquidengineer | what about passwords? | 09:24 |
| liquidengineer | oh | 09:24 |
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| ralyon | still hoping someone can help with my irqpoll problem | 09:33 |
| liquidengineer | Is there anybody that might know more about getting the netgear card working with WPA? | 09:41 |
| liquidengineer | I'd hate to wipe this guy's laptop and put a copy of linux on it he couldn't use to connect to the internet | 09:41 |
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| liquidengineer | What is Long Term Support? | 09:48 |
| liquidengineer | I.e.: why does 6.06 have it and 6.10 doesn't? | 09:48 |
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| TheSheep | liquidengineer: 6.10 has more not-so-well-tested software and configuration | 09:49 |
| gnomefreak | liquidengineer: because only one version will be long term support at a time | 09:49 |
| gnomefreak | if more than that it would be usless to have lts | 09:50 |
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| ephemeros | yo \m/ | 09:59 |
| liquidengineer | ah | 10:01 |
| liquidengineer | thanks | 10:01 |
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| ralyon | still hoping someone can help with my irqpoll problem | 10:23 |
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| ralyon | so early. ;) | 10:32 |
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| slow-motion | n8 | 10:33 |
| Jester45 | anyone here know why my usb drives willnot be detected as in the system doesn't know i plugged them in but my ipod works like normal | 10:35 |
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| somerville32 | MagicFab: Do you use Xubuntu? | 11:10 |
| MagicFab | somerville32, occasionally. I used intensively for like 6 mo. | 11:10 |
| MagicFab | mostly Dapper | 11:11 |
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| somerville32 | Feisty is beautiful :) | 11:12 |
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| ralyon | still hoping someone can help with my irqpoll problem | 11:14 |
| somerville32 | ralyon, Whats your problem? :) | 11:14 |
| ralyon | I have a new install of edgy on a toshiba satellite 330CDS and I can not get my pcmcia card slots to work or my usb. I get a noone cares on irq 11, try irqpoll and adding irqpoll to my kernel string causes a soft lockup detected on cpu0 and does not get rid of the irq error. I also get cardbus cards are not supported shortly after and being that the cardbus uses irq 11 I believe this to be... | 11:14 |
| ralyon | ...the problem. | 11:14 |
| somerville32 | ralyon: Can you change the irq in your bios? | 11:16 |
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| ralyon | I can't get to that option in the bios, it just says that what it is. I did set the bios to let the os configure settings | 11:17 |
| ralyon | I've tried acpi=on/off and noapic as well | 11:18 |
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| somerville32 | I've never had any trouble with irqs before so I'm not quite sure what to do | 11:19 |
| somerville32 | However, there are currently 1000 people in #ubuntu and so I'm sure one of them would have an idea :) | 11:20 |
| ralyon | ok, I'll try asking there as well then, I thought this would be more appropriate since ubuntu wouldn't even load only having 96mb of ram | 11:20 |
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| ralyon | still hoping someone can help with my irqpoll problem | 12:02 |
| grazie | ralyon: google no help? somebody else must have had this problem before. | 12:04 |
| ralyon | googled for about 12 hours before I came here | 12:05 |
| grazie | obviously not then | 12:05 |
| ralyon | people had similiar problems but none of the fixes I found for them worked for me | 12:05 |
| ralyon | most of them were in other distros, so some of the tools were not available in xubuntu either | 12:06 |
| somerville32 | What tools were they? | 12:06 |
| ralyon | cardctl wasz one of them | 12:07 |
| ralyon | some of the others were guis like yast | 12:07 |
| grazie | yast? | 12:07 |
| maxamillion | grazie: yast is a control panel for suse | 12:07 |
| grazie | i know | 12:08 |
| ralyon | yes, you got it before I could | 12:08 |
| maxamillion | grazie: oh ... ok | 12:08 |
| grazie | you tried DSL? | 12:09 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | pccardctl is provided by pcmciautils. | 12:09 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | !info pcmciautils | 12:10 |
| ubotu | pcmciautils: PCMCIA utilities for Linux 2.6. In component main, is important. Version 014-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 28 kB, installed size 156 kB | 12:10 |
| ralyon | was going to try that, but it didn't look like it was going to be as user friendly | 12:10 |
| grazie | DSL it pretty good for older machines. you could download and try them pcmiautils while waiting? | 12:12 |
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| ralyon | tried to install pcmciautils, but apt-get gave me 0s across the board | 12:13 |
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| ralyon | I'm trying to set up this old laptop for my wifes grandmother, 80 something, so she can communicate with her family | 12:15 |
| grazie | gave you 0s? Don't understand. All 0s output to the screen? | 12:15 |
| ralyon | xubuntu looked like it would be better then dsl | 12:15 |
| ralyon | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded | 12:16 |
| g333k_work | does xfce use dbus? | 12:17 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | g333k_work: yes | 12:17 |
| somerville32 | Yes | 12:17 |
| g333k_work | because I want to send popup messages to my thin clients, using student-control-panel made for gnome and kde, but the messages dont appear | 12:17 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | ralyon: It's probably installed already. | 12:17 |
| lhtown | I just tried to install Herd 2 from the live cd. It boots up fine and seems to work great. However, on the install, it asks me for the time zone and keyboard and then goes to a screen with a wide black border on the top and bottom and a middle "stripe" that has vertical white, blue, and sort of gray vertical stripes of varying width and then nothing else happens. When I push the power button, it beeps oddly and shuts down. The computer is a Gateway Profile 4 th | 12:17 |
| g333k_work | so why the messages dont appear? | 12:17 |
| TheSheep | g333k_work: isn't dbus only for local communication? | 12:17 |
| ralyon | cardctl 0: gives me command not found | 12:17 |
| TheSheep | lhtown: report a bug | 12:18 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | ralyon: It's called pccardctl. | 12:18 |
| lhtown | ok | 12:18 |
| ralyon | ok, it says no card in either slot | 12:19 |
| g333k_work | TheSheep, I dont know | 12:19 |
| ralyon | the webpage I found said use cardctl, but I think it was for fedora if memory serves. seen to many websites | 12:20 |
| TheSheep | g333k_work: sorry, I misunderstood | 12:20 |
| TheSheep | g333k_work: how do you send the message and how are you trying to receive it? | 12:20 |
| g333k_work | TheSheep, it suppose to appear in the client... | 12:21 |
| g333k_work | TheSheep, Well I dont know how I am receiving it | 12:21 |
| TheSheep | g333k_work: dbus if for communicating between applications... | 12:21 |
| TheSheep | g333k_work: there is dbus-monitor that shows you all the messages | 12:21 |
| TheSheep | g333k_work: might be handy | 12:22 |
| g333k_work | let me check | 12:22 |
| ralyon | I'm going to try for a post in the community forum, was just hoping for a quicker answer as I'm on a time limit to finish. Thanks to everyone who tried | 12:25 |
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