[03:21] <Hobbsee> hey Jucato!
[03:21] <Jucato> hi Hobbsee!
[03:22] <Jucato> :)
[03:48] <manchicken> Riddell: You about?
[04:10] <Hobbsee> heya manchicken
[04:11] <manchicken> Hiya.
[04:11] <manchicken> I **REALLY** want to work on adept here, but I can't get it to build.
[04:11] <manchicken> And it's a clean checkout from bzr.
[04:12] <Hobbsee> !bzr
[04:12] <ubotu> bzr is Bazaar-NG, a decentralized revision control system designed to be easy for developers and end users alike. Decentralized revision control systems give people the ability to work over the internet using the bazaar development model.
[04:12] <Hobbsee> ?
[04:12] <manchicken> Riddell told me to work on it out of bzr.
[04:13] <Hobbsee> right, yep
[04:27] <manchicken> ARGH!  Where's Riddell? ^_^
[04:29] <Hobbsee> manchicken: it's the weekend for most people.  and he's probably sleep
[04:29] <Hobbsee> *asleep
[04:30] <manchicken> Pshht.
[04:30] <manchicken> Weaksauce.
[04:33] <manchicken> Hobbsee: Can you try to build this from bzr and see if it fails to build for you, too?
[04:34] <manchicken> The bzr branch is http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jr/adept/ubuntu/
[04:35] <manchicken> Oh, my buddy Josh may be interested in helping us out here sometime soon.
[04:35] <Hobbsee> woot :)
[04:35] <manchicken> His name is Josh McAdams.
[04:36] <manchicken> He's been pretty involved with Perl lately.
[04:36] <oslo> oups sorry
[04:36] <manchicken> He got a White Camel award from the Perl Mongers.
[04:41] <Hobbsee> nice :)
[04:42] <Hobbsee> heya oslo
[05:38] <nixternal> lovely flooding tonight
[05:38] <Jucato> flooding?
[05:38] <nixternal> oslo
[05:38] <Jucato> oh...
[05:39] <Jucato> nixternal: is herd 2 a bit behind schedule? or I'm just not taking timezones into consideration?
[05:39] <nixternal> Jucato: herd 2 has been out all day, at least here it has
[05:39] <Jucato> heh :P
[05:39] <Jucato> sorry, my bad... (I was almost asleep all day)
[05:39] <nixternal> hehe
[05:50] <manchicken> *weep* Riddell, where are you?
[05:50] <Jucato> nixternal: seen this? http://www.vandenoever.info/misc/keyes/
[05:51] <nixternal> Jucato: i posted it :)
[05:51] <Jucato> lol
[05:51] <nixternal> earlier that is
[05:51] <nixternal> not on kde-look, but in here
[05:51] <Jucato> aaaah
[05:51] <Jucato> this is what I get for being asleep when most of you guys are awake :P
[05:52] <nixternal> heh
[05:52] <nixternal> i need to goto sleep, i have to get up early and do the loco thing
[05:52] <Hobbsee> Jucato: of course, yes
[05:53] <Jucato> ooh. sweet dreams nixternal!
[05:53] <Jucato> Hobbsee: yes to which of my statements? :P
[05:53] <Hobbsee> [15:51]  <Jucato> this is what I get for being asleep when most of you guys are awake :P
[05:53] <Jucato> aaah hehehe
[05:53] <Jucato> I wonder how you keep up :)
[05:54] <Hobbsee> i keep Hobbsee|NotHere in here.
[05:54] <Jucato> heh :)
[05:54] <Hobbsee> and i dont, really
[05:54] <Hobbsee> well, i do somehow
[05:59] <nixternal> g'nite!
[05:59] <Hobbsee> night!
[05:59] <Jucato> night nixternal!
[06:32] <canllaith> Heya - I'm trying to install guidance, and it's complaining that it can't import a module named 'notify' when I run guidance-power-manager.py after installing it. Can anyone help with this?
[11:31] <Lure> Riddell, sebas: around
[11:33] <Lure> Riddell: system settings accept any password as valid for admin mode :-(
[11:40] <mhb> Lure: Not here, though.
[11:45] <Lure> mhb: interesting - you have up-to-date feisty?
[11:45] <Hobbsee> hey Lure
[11:45] <Lure> mhb: did not notice this before, but I did today on clean Herd2 install
[11:45] <mhb> Lure: well, probably a few days old or so
[11:46] <mhb> Lure: I'll upgrade
[11:46] <Lure> mhb: and I recall seing this once in edgy (or dapper?) times
[11:46] <Lure> Hobbsee: hi - packing for LCA? ;-)
[11:47] <Hobbsee> Lure: nope, i'm not going :(
[11:47] <Hobbsee> Lure: besides, i live in sydney
[11:47] <Lure> Hobbsee: that is not good
[11:47] <Lure> Hobbsee: I would love to see it - it looks like great event
[11:47] <Hobbsee> indeed
[11:48] <Lure> mhb: font issue - default install is not that bad
[11:48] <Lure> mhb: switch to Sans Serif and it should be fine
[11:49] <mhb> Lure: I know - somebody noted that before
[11:49] <mhb> Lure: so the default install fonts are OK
[11:49] <mhb> ?
[11:49] <Lure> mhb: yes
[11:49] <Lure> I will update the bug
[11:50] <mhb> Lure: have you ran Adept yet?
[11:50] <mhb> Lure: because the font problem seems to persist in it, no idea why...
[11:56] <Lure> mhb: no problem here - not sure if I do not notice it anymore ;-)
[11:57] <Lure> mhb: sans serif looks a bit larger than dejavu at 8pt
[11:57] <mhb> Lure: thanks for the information
[11:58] <mhb> Lure: maybe the update will solve that
[11:58] <Lure> mhb: you may not want to update just now - python is being changed from 2.4 -> 2.5 as default
[11:59] <Lure> mhb: it will probably remove some packages that you do not want yet (kde-guidance)
[11:59] <mhb> Lure: I'm keeping the current python packages
[11:59] <Hobbsee> you have to dist upgrade to get that, though
[12:24] <mhb> Lure: systemsettings work fine after upgrading
[12:30] <Lure> mhb: I do not know what is wrong with mine then... :-(
[12:32] <mhb> Lure: you installed from the Herd CD 2, right?
[12:32] <Lure> mhb: yes... Maybe it is the fact that my user has 9 characters (may be stripped down to 8?)
[12:32] <Lure> mhb: I have used shorted admin usernames before...
[12:35] <mhb> Lure: that would be an error nonetheless, wouldn't it?
[12:36] <Lure> mhb: sure, just trying to figure out what could caused it...
[01:29] <Riddell> Lure: it's the 15 minute timeout from sudo
[01:33] <Hobbsee> Riddell!!!!
[01:39] <Riddell> hola chica
[01:43] <Hobbsee> :)
[01:43] <Hobbsee> Riddell: manchicken|away was most desperate before you before
[01:43] <Riddell> for what?
[01:43] <Hobbsee> building adept from bzr - he's having trouble
[01:48] <Lure> Riddell: yes, it is probably that - just confused that it asked for password but then accepted wrong one
[01:51] <Lure> Riddell: do we need python 2.4 for guidance - I have seen that we explicitly use python2.4 with some script in debian/rules
[02:19] <Riddell> Lure: I doubt it, except that I don't know if pykde works with python 2.5 yet
[02:19] <Lure> Riddell: ok, would be nice to get rid of 2.4
[02:21] <Riddell> yep
[02:34] <Riddell> one for imbrandon?
[02:35] <Riddell> http://blog.melhase.net/articles/2006/12/31/kberylsettings-beryl-settings-for-kde
[02:35] <Riddell> one for anyone http://blog.melhase.net/articles/2006/12/31/kberylsettings-beryl-settings-for-kde
[02:35] <Riddell> ah, abattoir
[02:35] <abattoir> hi Riddell :)
[02:35] <abattoir> how are you?
[02:35] <Riddell> abattoir: are you planning on doing the oem-installer qt 4 port?
[02:36] <abattoir> Riddell: yes, i'm halfway through
[02:36] <abattoir> actually more than that
[02:36] <Riddell> ooh, excellent
[02:36] <Hobbsee> Riddell: mmm...neat
[02:36] <abattoir> Riddell: just having troubles w/ the model-view framework
[02:36] <abattoir> hi Hobbsee
[02:36] <Riddell> why do you need to use that abattoir?
[02:36] <Riddell> Hobbsee: is that you volunteering to package?
[02:36] <Hobbsee> hey abattoir!
[02:36] <Hobbsee> Riddell: not at this time of night :P
[02:36] <Hobbsee> Riddell: besides, it's beyrl
[02:37] <abattoir> Riddell: it represents the data as a model, and uses views(listview) for eg. to dispaly it, the qt tutorials encourage using it, Kamion already uses it in the gtk ui
[02:38] <abattoir> Riddell: should i get a UI review of it?
[02:46] <Riddell> abattoir: sure, put up some screenshots and we can try and get seele to look at it
[02:47] <Riddell> abattoir: I don't remember it uses a listview for anything, I thought it just used drop down combo-boxes
[02:47] <abattoir> Riddell: doesn't that look archaic and non user friendly?
[02:48] <abattoir> Riddell: i thought i could make it a 'full screen app' and then make it a bit like ubiquity
[02:50] <Riddell> abattoir: sounds good
[02:51] <abattoir> Riddell: once i finish it, i'll post shots on the wiki, then if it's not liked, or modifications are necessary, i'll change it accordingly. fine?
[02:52] <Riddell> cool
[02:53] <Riddell> the gtk side will use model view because that's the only way gtk can work, with qt 4 you can also use the qlistwidget if that's easier
[02:53] <Riddell> it's more restrictive only allowing 1 column, but that's probably all that's needed
[02:54] <Hobbsee> -t
[02:54] <Hobbsee> i should definetly find something to fix...or sleep
[02:56] <abattoir> Riddell: aah ok... i'll see if i can get it to work, else i'll use qlistwidget. thanks.
[02:57] <Lure> Riddell: do you know anything about qt4 and glib loop - this could be a way to go for our powermanager polling issue
[02:57] <Lure> Riddell: if PyQt4 allows hooking into glib loop
[03:04] <mhb> when I insert a CD it displays an "Testing files:" audiocd:/?device=/dev/hdc pop-up which closes itself in a few seconds
[03:05] <mhb> howeever, this pop-up does not contain any significant information for the user
[03:06] <mhb> I think such a common task should not bother the user (because pop-ups are the most bothering method of displaying information)
[03:07] <imbrandon> Riddell, eh?
[03:07] <imbrandon> ohh the beryl thing
[03:07] <imbrandon> hehe
[03:07] <Hobbsee> hey imbrandon!
[03:07] <imbrandon> heya Hobbsee!!!!!!!
[03:08] <imbrandon> oh wow Riddell that thing looks nice
[03:08] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: :)
[03:09] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: 2 things to ask about....have they been done yet?  :P
[03:09] <imbrandon> the konversation i'm having a bit of issues with, but i think i have those worked out now
[03:09] <imbrandon> what was the 2nd ?
[03:09] <Hobbsee> ssh
[03:09] <Hobbsee> woot :)
[03:09] <imbrandon> oh yea, thats still not complete yet, probably wont be untill the end of the weekend
[03:10] <Hobbsee> right
[03:10] <imbrandon> i only have one of the needed 4 ip's
[03:10] <Hobbsee> ahhh
[03:10] <imbrandon> basicly is what i'm waiting on
[03:10] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: konvi is of more interest - i'm bored and kicking people from -offtopic again :P
[03:10] <imbrandon> heh ok
[03:11] <Hobbsee> :P
[03:23] <freeflying> imbrandon: hi
[03:23] <imbrandon> heya freeflying
[03:24] <freeflying> imbrandon: r u busy now?
[03:24] <imbrandon> i little but i can do something if you need it
[03:24] <imbrandon> wasup ?
[03:26] <imbrandon> :)
[03:26] <imbrandon> thanks for the offer though freeflying
[03:26] <imbrandon> err wrong window, but yea
[03:26] <freeflying> imbrandon: :)
[03:27] <imbrandon> mmmm more mt dew :)
[03:27] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: stay away from that mt dew!
[03:27] <imbrandon> heh
[03:27] <Hobbsee> it's bad for you :P
[03:28] <imbrandon> Hobbsee, http://www.richardrosenman.com/project/movies/?mov=h640&cid=78
[03:29] <Riddell> Lure: what about glib loop?  qt 4 has built in support for dbus
[03:29] <Lure> Riddell: but not PyQt - they dropped QDBus
[03:29] <Lure> Riddell: in favor of python-dbus
[03:29] <Lure> Riddell: which is glib only :-(
[03:30] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: which bit am i supposed to look at?
[03:30] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: apparently it's quicktime
[03:30] <imbrandon> yea
[03:30] <imbrandon> its a quicktime mov
[03:30] <Lure> Riddell: otherwise I do not see major problem in porting powermanager from pyqt3/pykde to -> pyqt4
[03:30] <imbrandon> Hobbsee, sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[03:30] <imbrandon> :)
[03:30] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: ...so how do i view it?
[03:30] <Hobbsee> ahh
[03:30] <Lure> Riddell: but if I do not see benefit (polling vs. events), I will not spend my time on it
[03:32] <imbrandon> yes
[03:32] <imbrandon> why wouldent it
[03:32] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: neat.  sleep now, i'll look tomorrow
[03:32] <Hobbsee> dunno
[03:32] <imbrandon> :)
[03:32] <Hobbsee> migth have hardcoded the path
[03:32] <Riddell> Lure: this thread suggests it works
[03:32] <imbrandon> no its the $plugins dir
[03:32] <Riddell> http://mats.imk.fraunhofer.de/pipermail/pykde/2007-January/015140.html
[03:32] <imbrandon> ;)
[03:33] <Hobbsee> ooh, neat
[03:33] <Riddell> Lure: maybe we need to update something in dbus python blindings
[03:33] <Riddell> s/l//
[03:33] <Lure> Riddell: interesting - will look into this and report back
[03:34] <freeflying> Riddell: today's upgrade reve kde-guidance
[03:34] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: heh
[03:36] <Riddell> freeflying: reve?
[03:36] <Hobbsee> maybe reverts
[03:39] <freeflying> Riddell: remove
[03:39] <freeflying> :)
[03:40] <Hobbsee|NotHere> [01:39]  <Hobbsee> freeflying: python transition - it's due to launchpad-integration
[03:41] <freeflying> Hobbsee|NotHere: thanks
[03:41] <Riddell> freeflying: it'll be something to do with the python 2.5 transition
[03:46] <Riddell> python-kde3 seems to have built but isn't in the archive
[03:47] <Riddell> and kdebindings is horribly broken
[03:49] <freeflying> next week, I will run kubuntu on a mipsel machine :)
[03:50] <Riddell> freeflying: but we're not ported to mipsel?
[03:51] <freeflying> Riddell: I will port it for myself  :)
[03:51] <Riddell> brave man
[03:53] <freeflying> Riddell: have u ever heard of Godson, a mipsel arch cpu made in China
[03:54] <Riddell> nope
[03:56] <Parkotron> Who packages K3B for Kubuntu?
[03:57] <freeflying> Parkotron: what's up
[03:58] <Parkotron> The short answer is my K3B claims not to support Flac.
[03:58] <mhb> Parkotron: ripping or burning?
[03:58] <Parkotron> I've noticed some other distros seem to have seperate packages to add support for each file format.
[03:58] <Parkotron> Burning.
[03:59] <mhb> Parkotron: you have FLAC support installed, I presume
[04:00] <Parkotron> I have flac, flac123, libflac++, libflac7 and liboggflac3.
[04:00] <Parkotron> Am I missing anything?
[04:01] <mhb> Parkotron: k3b supports flac for me, both ripping and burning (at least it allows flac files to be inserted in the audio file)
[04:01] <imbrandon> try libxine-extracodecs
[04:01] <imbrandon> sometimes flac wont work without it because the way xine is splitup
[04:02] <imbrandon> brb
[04:02] <Parkotron> Hmm. That's exactly what it won't do for me. "Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format: something.flac"
[04:03] <Parkotron> Flac works perfectly for me everywhere but K3B.
[04:04] <Parkotron> I have libxine-extracodecs, but K3B doesn't rely on Xine does it?
[04:06] <Parkotron> Anyway, if Flac is working for others, than it must just be a problem with my system. I guess I'll fool around with it some more. Thanks, all.
[04:09] <Parkotron> Believe it or not, uninstalling K3B and reinstalling the exact same version fixed it for me! Bizarre.
[04:13] <nixternal> Parkotron: thats because K3b needed to refresh the plugins directory garbage
[04:13] <nixternal> i had issue before as well, and went into setup and did a silly refresh, restarted it, and it worked
[04:32] <manchicken> Mornin' all you happy people.
[04:34] <manchicken> Launchpad is the place to file just general bugs with proggies, right?
[04:37] <manchicken> Parkotron: You know, you can also just reinstall it^_^
[04:37] <manchicken> Parkotron: Adept has this happy-fun option where you can "reinstall" without uninstalling.  Since there's no dirty windows registry, there's no real reason to uninstall for that purpose.
[04:38] <manchicken> At least not one that I can think of.
[04:40] <manchicken> DAMNIT!  One of my bugs is a duplicate.
[04:43] <manchicken> Oh well.
[04:47] <jdong> manchicken: I don't blame you; LP search is definitely no google.
[04:48] <manchicken> heh
[04:51] <manchicken> Once you get DVD stuff working, Kaffeine is actually quite a good media player.
[04:59] <manchicken> Riddell: You about?
[05:00] <Riddell> hi manchicken
[05:01] <manchicken> Hiya ^_^
[05:02] <manchicken> I still can't build adept straight from bzr in my chroot, and I have no idea why not.  I've done build-deps, made that Makefile.common, and still dh_install -padept-manager errors out every single time.
[05:02] <Riddell> what's the error?
[05:03] <manchicken> Let me reproduce it for you rq....
[05:03] <jdong> well, Kaffeine is yet another Xine player; it'll be good for everything except corrupt or incomplete files
[05:03] <jdong> where nothing beats the mplayer or VLC engine
[05:04] <manchicken> cp: cannot stat `./debian/tmp/usr/bin/adept_manager': No such file or directory
[05:04] <manchicken> dh_install: command returned error code 256
[05:04] <manchicken> Riddell: There ya go
[05:05] <manchicken> I even solicited the help of MOTU, and they didn't have any idea either.
[05:06] <manchicken> persia over in #ubuntu-motu was able to build it just fine from bzr.
[05:06] <manchicken> So I suspect I'm missing something in my chroot.
[05:07] <Riddell> you on feisty?
[05:07] <Riddell> your chroot that is
[05:08] <manchicken> yeah
[05:11] <Riddell> manchicken: and you're using debuild to build it?
[05:11] <manchicken> yup
[05:11] <Riddell> able to put the build log on a web server somewhere?
[05:12] <manchicken> Yeah.
[05:12] <manchicken> Is there already a log you're interested in?
[05:12] <manchicken> Or do you just want stdin/stdout?
[05:12] <Riddell> your one
[05:12] <Riddell> the log is in ../*build
[05:12] <manchicken> err, stdout/err
[05:13] <manchicken> Where?
[05:13] <Riddell> from where you build it
[05:13] <manchicken> I'm in adept
[05:14] <manchicken> ./adept/deb-build?
[05:14] <Riddell> no
[05:14] <Riddell> ../*build
[05:14] <manchicken> ./debian/stamp-makefile-build?
[05:14] <Riddell> directory above
[05:14] <manchicken> I'm already in the toplevel directory for the adept bzr checkout.
[05:14] <Riddell> so go up a directory
[05:15] <manchicken> adept_2.1.2ubuntu6_amd64.build?
[05:15] <Riddell> that's the one
[05:15] <manchicken> Righto.
[05:16] <manchicken> http://notsosoft.net/adept_2.1.2ubuntu6_amd64.build
[05:17] <Riddell> manchicken: you have unsermake installed, remove it
[05:17] <manchicken> Righto.
[05:17] <Riddell> run make -f admin/Makefile.common again
[05:22] <manchicken> w00t!  Compiling
[05:28] <manchicken> Ooh, kompose is neat.
[05:29] <Jucato> woot for kompose :)
[05:31] <manchicken> kommando is neat, too.
[05:31] <Jucato> I haven't tried that one... is that the radial menu thingy?
[05:31] <manchicken> Yeah.
[05:31] <manchicken> Katapult is much better for that purpose IMO.
[05:31] <Jucato> ooh nice... maybe I should try...
[05:31] <Jucato> it's fancy though :)
[05:31] <Jucato> and maybe a bit nicer than kickoff...
[05:32] <manchicken> Yeah, tres fancy... but not very practical.
[05:33] <manchicken> kfocus is very useful.
[05:33] <Jucato> :)
[05:34] <manchicken> I've been using it to help me remember what I want to do with adept.
[05:34] <Jucato> haven't heard of that one yet...
[05:34] <lotusleaf> manchicken: 1. install Synaptic 2. profit
[05:35] <lotusleaf> manchicken: I must be in the minority, I've always used Synaptic in KDE, never Adept.
[05:35] <manchicken> lotusleaf: Sorry man, I'm an adept user ^_^
[05:35] <manchicken> lotusleaf: For me, it's been `use Perl && profit();` ^_^
[05:35] <Jucato> lotusleaf: don't stop the man from developing Adept :P
[05:36] <manchicken> lotusleaf: I'm hacking on aept though.
[05:36] <lotusleaf> ;p
[05:36] <manchicken> adept.
[05:36] <lotusleaf> manchicken: oh, then ignore me. =)
[05:36] <manchicken> If i could type, I might be productiv.
[05:36] <lotusleaf> Jucato: wouldn't want to do that. =)
[05:36] <manchicken> I know I hit that E key that time.
[05:36] <manchicken> Damnit.
[05:36] <Jucato> hehe
[05:37] <Jucato> maybe you need kfocus to remind you to hit E :)
[05:37] <manchicken> Riddell: debsign fails, but only after it's created all of the .debs.
[05:39] <Riddell> that's good, that means it's done
[05:40] <manchicken> I need to get this image into the build, too.
[05:41] <manchicken> But I'll worry about that later.
[05:50] <Riddell> hello neversfelde
[05:51] <neversfelde> hello
[06:04] <manchicken> I wish debuild had a way to not clean-build each time.
[06:04] <manchicken> It takes forever to clean-build when all you want to do is trial-and-error.
[06:14] <manchicken> Argh... forgot that I'll have to shift all the columns over to the right...
[06:14] <manchicken> It's named constant time.
[06:16] <manchicken> It still bothers me that this thing's using the STL when it's got a perfectly good Qt lib....
[06:31] <Tm_T> Hi kids.
[06:35] <apokryphos> hey Tm_T; long time 8)
[06:38] <Tm_T> apokryphos: Yup yup.
[06:38] <apokryphos> how've you been?
[06:38] <Tm_T> Alive.
[06:38] <Tm_T> Well, mostly. :p
[06:38] <apokryphos> good to hear
[06:39] <Tm_T> Yeah, I'm still a mess, but improving slowly.
[06:39] <Tm_T> And you?
[06:39] <apokryphos> I see. Well good luck guy :)
[06:39] <Tm_T> Ty.
[06:39] <apokryphos> I'm ok; University starting properly on Monday again
[06:39] <apokryphos> this holiday has been a complete lounge-about
[06:40] <Tm_T> Heh.
[06:40] <Tm_T> I might try to get into univ myself.
[06:40] <Tm_T> If those social workers let me. =)
[06:57] <apokryphos> Tm_T: what you thinking of studying?
[06:58] <Tm_T> That would be computer science.
[06:58] <Tm_T> Or something else, who knows.
[06:58] <apokryphos> cool
[06:58] <Tm_T> I'm currently assistant in local school, you know, lots of kids screaming etc. :)
[06:59] <apokryphos> ah
[06:59] <apokryphos> primary or secondary?
[06:59] <Tm_T> Hm, secondary is older ones?
[07:00] <apokryphos> yeah; high school, basically
[07:00] <Tm_T> Well, I'm assistant in primary then, ages 6 to 11 or so.
[07:01] <apokryphos> My oldest sister works in primary, and my other sister in Secondary, though it's a private-only-girls school
[07:01] <apokryphos> I always imagine secondary state school year 9s or so being the very worst :P
[07:01] <apokryphos> mainly because I remember myself at the age :O
[07:28] <Lure> Riddell: it works!
[07:29] <Lure> Riddell: we need to update: SIP 4.5.2, python-dbus 0.80rc3 and PyQt4 snapshot from January
[07:29] <Lure> Riddell: doko already said that he would be fine to review python-dbus
[07:30] <Lure> Riddell: I have tested simple device add/remove, now will add more stuff for battery specific stuff
[07:30] <Lure> Riddell: if this goes well, I will write an e-mail to you and sebas with plan for KDE3 -> Qt4 port of current powermanager widgets
[07:55] <kwwii> sooo...who can tell me the things I should look out for on the herd1 CD?
[08:01] <mhb> kwwii: herd1 or herd2 ?
[08:27] <Lure> kwwii: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn/Herd2/Kubuntu
[08:33] <kwwii> Lure: thanks
[08:33] <kwwii> mhb: didn't know herd2 was out :p
[08:34] <Lure> kwwii: it is only a day or two...
[08:34] <kwwii> :-)
[08:34] <kwwii> and well announced at that :p
[08:35] <mhb> we should announce it at kubuntu.org
[08:36] <kwwii> well, it would have saved me an hour downloading herd1 ;-)
[08:36] <mhb> Riddell: ^^
[08:36] <fdoving> kwwii: you can rsync it.. i guess.
[08:37] <kwwii> yeah...but I am not in a hurry to screw up my mac laptop anyway
[08:38] <kwwii> I installed kubuntu on the laptop I bought for my wife and I was so jealous that the wlan worked out of the box
[08:39] <fdoving> hehe :)
[08:49] <Lure> kwwii: btw, just sent you an e-mail about missing icon for powermanager
[08:49] <kwwii> Lure: great, I'll take care of that
[08:52] <Lure> kwwii: thanks
[09:24] <kwwii> Lure: answered
[09:24] <kwwii> Lure: thanks for noticing that
[09:25] <kwwii> where is the frenchy when I need him
[09:25] <kwwii> ?
[09:25] <kwwii> :p
[09:25] <kwwii> typical french guy
[09:25] <Lure> kwwii: thanks
[09:25] <kwwii> probably out eating baguette
[09:25] <Lure> kwwii: lol
[09:26] <kwwii> I should be nicer, he invited me to his wedding
[09:26] <kwwii> and I *never* pass up a free meal ;-)
[09:26] <Tm_T> kwwii: And it shows?
[09:26] <kwwii> Tm_T: definitely
[09:27] <kwwii> actually, I am slowly getting back to my weight pre-marriage-and-child
[09:29] <Tm_T> I would like to get ~10 kg more.
[09:30] <kwwii> you can have 20 from me
[09:30] <kwwii> at one time I was almost in the hospital because I did not weigh enough
[09:31] <kwwii> when I was cooking for a living and had enough stress to create stomach problems
[09:31] <Tm_T> kwwii: What's your weight index?
[09:31] <Tm_T> Can't remember correct term.
[09:31] <kwwii> Tm_T: no idea, I resist weighing myself
[09:32] <Tm_T> =)
[09:32] <Tm_T> I have under 18 always, lowest have been under 16
[09:32] <Tm_T> and 20-25 is "normal" =)
[09:33] <kwwii> my doctor prescribed me pills to make me hungry once
[09:33] <Tm_T> Hah!
[09:33] <kwwii> but that was like 10 years ago
[09:33] <kwwii> trust me, in the meantime I am way too fat
[09:33] <Tm_T> I eat, actually I eat sometimes more than enough, but just no fat in body. :(
[09:33] <kwwii> having a kid will do that to you
[09:33] <kwwii> I have a very slow metabolism...actually I eat very little
[09:34] <kwwii> but if I sit in front of a computer all the time the fat just creaps up on me
[09:34] <Tm_T> And day or two without proper eating and I lose weight and go weak, err, weaker. :p
[09:34] <kwwii> I should go swimming more often
[09:35] <Tm_T> And that just to keep weight in 52 kg =)
[09:36] <kwwii> hehe, then we are opposites
[09:36] <Tm_T> Yup.
[09:36] <Tm_T> Only way to get more weight is to build muscles, but d'oh, even those don't come easy.
[09:37] <Tm_T> Hrr, back hurts, first pill in month going in. ->
[09:39] <kwwii> hehe, my mind hurts...drinking gin tonic this week
[09:39] <kwwii> :p
[09:40] <kwwii> I assume that everyone would like to see an evolution of the edgy theme for feisty?
[09:41] <mhb> kwwii: yes!
[09:42] <kwwii> then we can move from the purple slowly back to a nice blue ;-)
[09:42] <mhb> kwwii: so you have been appointed as the Kubuntu Artist in charge?
[09:42] <mhb> kwwii: purple wasn't so bad
[09:42] <kwwii> mhb: well, it looks like it will be a bit different this time
[09:42] <kwwii> not sure if there is going to be the "AIC" position as it was in edgy
[09:45] <kwwii> I'll be able to talk more about that later though, at the moment I haven't signed a contract, so I would hate to say things that are not true
[09:46] <mhb> kwwii: okay ... back to the original topic. Do you have some screenshots?
[09:51] <kwwii> mhb: nope, haven't started at all yet
[09:51] <kwwii> ;-)
[09:51] <kwwii> but I was starting to think about it
[09:52] <kwwii> the week after next we are meeting in oslo, I am sure I'll know more after that
[09:53] <mhb> kwwii: it's just paid employees there?
[09:53] <mhb> kwwii: or how does those sprints work?
[09:53] <kwwii> mhb: yepp, pretty sure that is the case
[09:53] <mhb> kwwii: ah
[09:54] <kwwii> the one in the middle of the cycle is internal
[09:54] <kwwii> and the one after is for everyone
[09:54] <kwwii> this one really has more to do with coding and coordination thereof than anything else
[09:54] <kwwii> but I have been invited to the last two meeting like this as well
[09:55] <kwwii> it is a cheap way to see the world :p
[10:00] <crimsun> lucky you, at least you're able to attend :)
[10:13] <Lure> any kubuntu motu around to review and upload new upstream release of soundkonverter?
[10:13] <Lure> http://lure.lu.funpic.de/kubuntu/feisty/
[10:49] <claydoh> Bug #78437
[10:49] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 78437 in ubiquity "installer crashes in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78437
[10:49] <claydoh> not the usual bug, a screen corruption after step 4 in the installer
[10:49] <claydoh> but I did find a workaround
[11:15] <kwwii> one thing that we should consider changing art-wise in feisty is the amarok highligh glassy-bubble thing
[11:15] <kwwii> since it does not fit to the rest of the theme
[11:15] <mhb> kwwii: you mean the OSD?
[11:16] <kwwii> mhb: nope, I mean the selected bubble in the main window
[11:16] <mhb> kwwii: ah
[11:16] <mhb> the selected track
[11:24] <kwwii> hehe, well the feisty install is over before it began
[11:25] <kwwii> lol
[11:25] <kwwii> the partioner does not even start in ppc
[11:25] <kwwii> :p
[11:25] <kwwii> either that or it takes a few hours
[11:26] <kwwii> shit
[11:27] <kwwii> oh well, I should have known better
[11:29] <kwwii> anyone here installed on ppc?
[11:35] <kwwii> ok, I am going to trust this thing and simply install
[11:36] <kwwii> hehe, famous last words
[11:38] <kwwii> what does the little l
[11:38] <kwwii> penguins mean in qparted?
[11:38] <kwwii> is that the partitions it will install on?
[11:38] <kwwii> I simply have no idea where this things wants to install
[11:39] <Zerlinna> kwwii: good luck ;)
[11:40] <ryanakca> kwwii: the penguins mean ext3 partitions... windows logo means ntfs... iirc
[11:43] <kwwii> hehe
[11:43] <kwwii> hi Zerlinna
[11:43] <kwwii> dude, this installer is crazy
[11:43] <kwwii> it works
[11:43] <kwwii> but it makes no sense and scared me
[11:43] <kwwii> and I am not a newbie
[11:43] <kwwii> just the partioner stuff
[11:44] <Zerlinna> kwwii: which installer? on feisty?
[11:44] <kwwii> makes little sense
[11:44] <kwwii> Zerlinna: yepp
[11:44] <Zerlinna> kwwii: anyway I prefer the alternate installer.. it's much quicker and imho easier..
[11:44] <Zerlinna> because of the partitioning part
[11:45] <kwwii> Zerlinna: yeah, until now that is what I have used too
[11:46] <mhb> hmm, qtparted resizes itself to be 4 screens wide here
[11:47] <mhb> that's also quite unusable
[11:47] <Zerlinna> kwwii: but graphical partitioners look always like that I think.. even in fedora :D
[11:51] <kwwii> lol
[11:51] <kwwii> not in suse
[11:51] <kwwii> ;-)
[11:51] <kwwii> heck in suse, you cannot partition on ppc, only select the partitions :p
[11:51] <kwwii> but I must say that the ppc support is better on suse
[11:52] <kwwii> mainly due to the olafs
[11:52] <kwwii> three guys named olaf that sit in one room and all work on ppc
[11:52] <Zerlinna> kwwii: you're joking
[11:52] <kwwii> they had a sign on their door "we are the olaf, resistance is futile"
[11:52] <kwwii> no, honestly, I am not
[11:53] <Zerlinna> You will be assimilated ? :)
[11:53] <kwwii> star trek
[11:53] <kwwii> ouch, shit...I forgot to plug in the network cable
[11:54] <kwwii> ok, /me goes offline now
[11:54] <kwwii> see you all later
[11:54] <Zerlinna> see ya
[11:54] <kwwii> or it will not configure my network
[11:54] <kwwii> another *brilliant* idea
[11:54] <kwwii> if you do not have network when you install, you must not have any network at all
[11:54] <kwwii> and want to do it per hand
[11:55] <kwwii> bye