[12:15] <fignew> Xera: wait a few hours and it'll work :P
[12:15] <xertra> i've checked though i could be wrong. Beleive me i'm not a master at source so i always try to take to easy way out.
[12:15] <Xera> fignew, lol..
[12:16] <Xera> he's not exactly the most patient person in the world
[12:16] <Xera> >.<
[12:16] <Xera> any other way to fix this?
[12:16] <soulrider> xertra: there are deb packages here http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php no need toc ompile :)
[12:16] <Admiral_Chicago> xertra: have you tried apt-cache search file
[12:16] <Admiral_Chicago> oh it should be in feisty iirc
[12:17] <rich__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1366/
[12:17] <Xera> is there anyway to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 without reinstalling?
[12:17] <rich__> that's my problem, how do I get the key?
[12:17] <soulrider> xertra: they got repos there, so just add them and then sudo aptitude update
[12:17] <BluesKaj> xera, via the net
[12:17] <xertra> ok thanks
[12:17] <BluesKaj> !EDGY
[12:18] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[12:18] <fignew> Xera: sudo -k
[12:18] <fignew> !!
[12:18] <fignew> should clear the timestamp
[12:18] <Xera> k
[12:18] <soulrider> rich__: what guide are you reading ?
[12:20] <oem_> ANYONE know why I can't re-size windows in wine (running PokerStars)?
[12:21] <Xera> fignew, ty, works
[12:21] <Xera> now for my own problem
[12:21] <fignew> har!
[12:21] <Xera> Konversation crashes when sending a message to a channel
[12:21] <Xera> _._
[12:21] <soulrider> =/
[12:21] <soulrider> weird
[12:21] <soulrider> check the bug reports
[12:21] <Xera> um
[12:21] <Xera> where?
[12:21] <Xera> x(
[12:22] <soulrider> or try reinstalling it, although i doubt it will help
[12:22] <soulrider> hold on
[12:22] <Alarm> after removing for example the mythtv package, some libraries stay still installed that were installed during the mythtv installation. whats the safest way to remove every library and every file that has to do with mythtv ? (mythtv was an example, with every application actually)
[12:23] <Admiral_Chicago> Alarm: sudo aptitude remove mythtv
[12:23] <fignew> Xera: try closing konversation
[12:23] <BluesKaj> hey genii & denisel, my fellow canucks to the rescue ! :)
[12:23] <fignew> then running
[12:23] <soulrider> Xera: http://bugs.kde.org/
[12:23] <genii> BluesKaj Hiya
[12:23] <Xera> fignew, it is closed
[12:23] <Alarm> aptutute thats a command i see for the first time :)
[12:23] <Xera> xd
[12:23] <fignew> mv ~/.kde/share/config/konversationrc ~/.kde/share/config/konversationrc~
[12:23] <oem_> ANYONE running PokerStarts in wine?
[12:23] <soulrider> Alarm: aptitude is like apt-get
[12:23] <Admiral_Chicago> aptitude works with dependecies a bit better though
[12:23] <fignew> and reopen
[12:23] <soulrider> oem_: try searching on http://winehq.com
[12:24] <soulrider> maybe its a known bug and they have a fix for that program
[12:24] <genii> could always try ==purge switch if you feel brave :)
[12:24] <soulrider> yes Admiral_Chicago thats why i allways use aptitude :P
[12:24] <genii> bleh --purge swith rather
[12:24] <Xera> genii, um?
[12:24] <Xera> you mean
[12:24] <Admiral_Chicago> soulrider that's where I learned it from :)
[12:24] <Xera> sudo aptitude purge PACKAGE
[12:24] <Xera> not --purge?
[12:25] <fignew> --purge...? what does that have to do with braveness?
[12:25] <Admiral_Chicago> purge deletes all the configuration files
[12:25] <fignew> dpkg --purge packagename
[12:25] <soulrider> Xera: if what fignew said fails, try doing "sudo aptitude purge konversation" and then "sudo aptitude install konversation"
[12:25] <oem_> It's running fine soulrider... but I can't rezise windows
[12:25] <BluesKaj> prolly cuz it's a java prog
[12:25] <genii> Well in apt-get syntax I think it's like apt-get remove --purge <name>
[12:25] <soulrider> oem_: ANY apps on wine or just that one ?
[12:25] <oem_> all
[12:25] <segfault> hi
[12:25] <segfault> how can i embed a konsole in konqueror?
[12:26] <mase> why is it every time i drag a window or scroll its all "laggy" ? my refresh rate is at 85hz when i went to monitor settings..
[12:26] <jamie> test0r
[12:26] <jamie> o.o
[12:26] <soulrider> oem_: it might be a bug in wine, are you running the latest version ?
[12:26] <oem_> yes... but I just finally got it going. I'm totally new
[12:26] <BluesKaj> whynot just place it the panel, segfault
[12:26] <soulrider> Xera: its aptitude purge, thats right
[12:26] <jamie> :P
[12:26] <Admiral_Chicago> segfault: i think there is a command.
[12:27] <Admiral_Chicago> hold on a sec
[12:27] <genii> fignew Sometimes --purge also wipes dependencies out which seem to have nothing to do with the package you are removing
[12:27] <Minataku> Heya, genii
[12:27] <segfault> Admiral_Chicago:  ty
[12:27] <Xeras`evil`twin> ok it's working
[12:27] <Minataku> Did you wrench that IPX out of evil hands for me yet?
[12:27] <segfault> BluesKaj: dunno, i like kate behavior
[12:27] <Admiral_Chicago> f7 does what segfault ?
[12:27] <genii> Minataku :) Hi
[12:27] <Xeras`evil`twin> w00t no more x-crap
[12:27] <Xeras`evil`twin> =d
[12:27] <soulrider> oem_: open a conosle and type "wine --version" and tell me what you get
[12:27] <fignew> mase: what vid card?
[12:27] <segfault> Admiral_Chicago: nope :(
[12:27] <mase> fignew, nvidia 6100
[12:27] <BluesKaj> kate ?
[12:27] <genii> Minataku BTW Shipping should happen Wed or Thurs, I'll just pay then let u know what it is
[12:28] <oem_> Wine 0.9.5
[12:28] <fignew> do you have the non-OSS nVidia drivers?
[12:28] <Admiral_Chicago> hmmm there is a command, I don't know it though. look at the Konqueror doc. I'm a FX person
[12:28] <genii> Minataku LOL as for the IPX, nah no luck there
[12:28] <mase> fignew,  i dont know, i picked nvidia 6 series in system
[12:28] <soulrider> oem_: you sure that isnt an unstable version
[12:28] <soulrider> Admiral_Chicago: FX?
[12:28] <segfault> thanks btw Admiral_Chicago
[12:28] <Minataku> genii: Aw, you didn't even try, did you :(
[12:29] <oem_> NO... I don't even know how to tell :(
[12:29] <soulrider> mase: i got a geForce 6600 on my computer and it works like charm
[12:29] <Janitux> segfault: !
[12:29] <segfault> Janitux: !
[12:29] <segfault> :@
[12:29] <mase> =/
[12:29] <fignew> mase: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx; sudo nvidia-glx enable
[12:29] <mase> its all laggy..
[12:29] <soulrider> oem_: hold on a sec
[12:29] <oem_> ok
[12:29] <fignew>  assuming
[12:29] <fignew> you agree to nVidia's licence!
[12:29] <genii> Minataku Well, yeah but not like to the point of threatening to remove body parts etc
[12:29] <Minataku> genii: lol
[12:29] <Admiral_Chicago> soulrider: firefox, offical shorthand is fx
[12:30] <soulrider> oh
[12:30] <mase> let me see if that works
[12:30] <Minataku> genii: Any other junk laying around that you can toss in the box?
[12:30] <soulrider> Admiral_Chicago: you use it to browse files? =/
[12:30] <Minataku> XD
[12:30] <genii> fx as short form seems...wrong... I always liked ff
[12:30] <Admiral_Chicago> you can. file://
[12:30] <soulrider> i didnt know what
[12:30] <Admiral_Chicago> yup
[12:30] <mase> fignew, nvidia-glx command not found
[12:31] <genii> Minataku We are having a massive cleanup Tues so if there is, I'll put it all in the same box
[12:31] <Minataku> genii: Awesome
[12:31] <fignew> mase: sorry
[12:31] <soulrider> i think i prefer konqueror... :P
[12:31] <Minataku> Anything cool, interesting, obscure or useless
[12:31] <Minataku> Toss it in
[12:31] <fignew> the command is nvidia-glx-config
[12:31] <genii> Sure thing
[12:31] <fignew> konqueror > *
[12:31] <Minataku> genii: Any possible previews or teasers on what there might be? :D
[12:31] <mase> rror: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[12:31] <mase> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[12:31] <Minataku> PS: I love laptops and handhelds and ceramic chips
[12:32] <fignew> mase 1 sec
[12:32] <bobleny>  Hey, I installed dolphin and made it my default file manager, but in order to see my trash bin or use the "Actions" action menue, I have to set konqore back to being my default file manager. How do I fix it so I don't have this problem?
[12:32] <genii> Minataku No idea right now but likely useless things like old scsi cards or DAT tapes or something
[12:32] <soulrider> oem_: http://winehq.com/site/download-deb add that repo and allways use the wine version that there is there
[12:33] <Minataku> genii: Kickass
[12:33] <Minataku> Any SCSI cables?
[12:33] <Minataku> I'll probably need some
[12:33] <oem_> Thnx... I'll try it now
[12:33] <Minataku> Hard drives, too XD
[12:33] <Gekkobuntu> Hello, this is only a test. can you hear me ???
[12:33] <Minataku> Gekkobuntu: Nope, not a word.
[12:33] <fignew> mase: sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common linux-restricted-modules-common
[12:33] <Minataku> Gekkobuntu: I can't even hear the three question marks
[12:33] <Minataku> XD
[12:34] <genii> Minataku Yeah all internal 68 type mostly. Embedded terminators on the ends. Also some Sun external cables if you need those. They have the 3 rows of spins so won't fit much else
[12:34] <Minataku> genii: Sorry, I'm getting even more excited now XD
[12:34] <Minataku> genii: Coo
[12:34] <bobleny> Gentoo Rules!
[12:34] <Gekkobuntu> lol is this only a english forum ??
[12:34] <mase> fignew, nvidia-kernel-common is already the newest version.
[12:34] <mase> linux-restricted-modules-common is already the newest versio
[12:35] <bobleny> !gentoo
[12:35] <ubotu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[12:35] <Minataku> "Other packaging systems" ?
[12:35] <Minataku> Bah
[12:35] <Gekkobuntu> gentoo the distri for professionals
[12:35] <genii> Gekkountu Primarily english, yes. For other languages ou can search for a channel like:  !la     where la = countrycode
[12:35] <TheDebugger> ...
[12:36] <bobleny> Yeah, I know
[12:36] <fignew> mase: do you have a custom kernel?
[12:36] <bobleny> But it is so nice!
[12:36] <TheDebugger> Gentoo is for people who has too much time to waster
[12:36] <TheDebugger> *waste
[12:36] <mase> fignew, no sir, regular kubuntu 6.10 one
[12:36] <Gekkobuntu> genii thank you perhaps i will "verbessern" my english ;-)
[12:36] <genii> gentoo = awesomley customised installation which squeezes every last bit from what setup you have but a pain to install first time
[12:37] <segfault> Admiral_Chicago: with F8
[12:37] <segfault> by the way thanks for your help :)
[12:37] <fignew> mase: what does: lsmod | grep "nv"      say?
[12:37] <segfault> http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/3148/python1fu5.jpg <- :)
[12:37] <mase> sata_nv                11268  5
[12:37] <mase> libata                 74892  1 sata_nv
[12:38] <Admiral_Chicago> segfault: thanks, Kate is F7. I though it would be the same
[12:38] <segfault> :D
[12:38] <genii> telephone AFK a while
[12:38] <fignew> mase: how about lspci | grep "nvidia"
[12:38] <mase> nothing
[12:38] <Minataku> Telephone... I should listen to my intercept recordings archive...
[12:39] <Minataku> Which also reminds me to check if TIAR is back up yet
[12:39] <mase> let me try to restart x server
[12:39] <fignew> ermm
[12:39] <fignew> no
[12:39] <Minataku> Yay! It's back up!
[12:39] <fignew> could get messed up if the config is incorrect
[12:39] <mase> i switched from nv to nvidia
[12:39] <mase> on system
[12:39] <mase> maybe it'll work
[12:40] <genii> Back :)  Minataku You ever try to run asterisk under ubuntu?
[12:40] <fignew> mase
[12:40] <fignew> 1 more step
[12:40] <Minataku> genii: I've never used Ubuntu period
[12:40] <mase> k
[12:40] <fignew> modprobe nvidia
[12:40] <Minataku> When I started with Linux Ubuntu didn't exist, nor would it have been as extensible as I'd have wanted anyway
[12:40] <fignew> with sudo
[12:40] <mase> nothing
[12:41] <fignew> good!
[12:41] <segfault> Janitux:
[12:41] <segfault> medio pwn
[12:41] <segfault> en irc.cl
[12:41] <fignew> now kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:41] <genii> Minataku Well at any rate we are trying to unify our servers to debian but the standard asterisk distro ios seems to run on a redhat enterprise server clone called Centos
[12:41] <fignew> and make sure it says nvidia and not nv
[12:41] <fignew> under driver
[12:41] <soulrider> !asterisk
[12:42] <ubotu> asterisk: Open Source Private Branch Exchange (PBX). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.2.12.1.dfsg-1ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 137 kB, installed size 400 kB
[12:42] <Janitux> segfault: pwn tu xD
[12:42] <mase> yes
[12:42] <mase> it says nvidia
[12:42] <genii> soulride Thx
[12:42] <tony__> are there anyway i can configure thunderbird to read HOtmail accounts???
[12:42] <fignew> ok
[12:42] <Minataku> genii: I know there's at least an Asterisk LiveCD
[12:42] <fignew> restart
[12:42] <mase> k
[12:42] <fignew> and if it doesn't work
[12:42] <Minataku> As for Asterisk itself I'm pretty sure it runs on anything
[12:42] <mase> reinstall?
[12:42] <fignew> make sure the module is loaded (modprobe)
[12:42] <fignew> ermm
[12:42] <BluesKaj> just use yer browser  tony
[12:42] <fignew> actually
[12:42] <genii> Minataku I think the distro we were running was asterisk@home  or something similar
[12:42] <fignew> let's add it to autoload
[12:42] <Minataku> Though Debian I know is really hacky and lame (and insanely outdated when stable)
[12:43] <tony__> but i want to use thunderbird :((((
[12:43] <mase> ok
[12:43] <mase> how ?
[12:43] <fignew> sudo kate /etc/modules
[12:43] <fignew> add nvidia to the end
[12:43] <Minataku> I've never seen a small software package with so many patches applied via the distro provider
[12:43] <fignew> I'm pretty sure it loads automatically, but it's one less thing to worry about
[12:43] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> GUys!!!!
[12:43] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> iF i DELETED A FILE
[12:43] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> can i retreive it?!?!
[12:43] <mase> ok
[12:44] <mase> ill brb
[12:44] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> please please please say yes
[12:44] <Minataku> slmadhjflsadhkjf: Maybe
[12:44] <fignew> depends on the filesystem
[12:44] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> ok
[12:44] <fignew> and how badly you want it
[12:44] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> i just now deleted a crap load of documents that i really need for work
[12:44] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> i mean like 30 documents.
[12:44] <fignew> and how long its been/what you've done since then
[12:44] <Minataku> And how many times you're willing to... nevermind... family friendly channel
[12:44] <Minataku> j/k XD
[12:44] <Minataku> (Sorry X3 )
[12:44] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> it just happened now
[12:45] <BluesKaj> tony__, just tell thunderbird your hotmail address in account settings
[12:45] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> i deleted a whole folder with them inside
[12:45] <fignew> slmadhjflsadhkjf: shutdown the computer
[12:45] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> ...
[12:45] <fignew> so it doesn't get written over
[12:45] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> then?!
[12:45] <fignew> and use another computer
[12:46] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> these are really important documents.
[12:46] <fignew> to download a livecd
[12:46] <tony__> BluesKaj, do i have to use POP3 , SMTP or are there other protocol that i have to specifiy ??? this option from hotmail is not free , but
[12:46] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> i have a live cd.
[12:46] <fignew> that can recover files
[12:46] <fignew> a special livecd
[12:46] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> and i have no other computers.
[12:46] <tony__> BluesKaj, on window i have a tool that retrives all my hotmail mails ..
[12:46] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> fignew where can i get this live cd?
[12:46] <genii> if you deleted them from the K desktop they may still be in the trash container
[12:47] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> this is not some childish thing.. this is extremely important.
[12:47] <BluesKaj> sorry i dunno tony__
[12:47] <tony__> is cool
[12:47] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> they are NOT in the trash container cuz like an idiot i emptied my trash.
[12:48] <fignew> not sure what the name is of the livecd
[12:48] <rich__> what's wrong with my xconf that I can't get AIGLX running? xconf is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1370/
[12:48] <mase> fignew, it worked perfect bro
[12:48] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> Can someone please help me recover 30 files in 1 folder, these are people's accounts
[12:48] <slmadhjflsadhkjf>  #ubuntu
[12:48] <mase> fignew,  it was ugly at start, but i fixed the resolution and all , now its all pretty
[12:49] <fignew> good ;)
[12:49] <fignew> you know what you're doing
[12:49] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> Can someone please help me recover 30 files in 1 folder, these are people's accounts
[12:50] <genii> slmadhjflsadhkjf: If you find no other way there is a link from this page with some manual instructions https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ticket/3063
[12:52] <fignew> rich__: follow some of the guides on ubuntuforums
[12:52] <fignew> pretty straightfoward stuff
[12:52] <shadowhywind> i was wondering how does one open a root console from the console ?
[12:52] <fignew> shadowhywind: sudo bash
[12:53] <shadowhywind> what do you know that works, thanks fignew
[12:53] <fignew> :P
[12:54] <fignew> got errands to run :/
[12:54] <shadowhywind> exit
[12:54] <shadowhywind> doh
[12:55] <genii> !r-linux
[12:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about r-linux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:55] <genii> Hmm
[12:57] <zerf> hello
[12:57] <zerf> french chanel ?
[12:58] <LeeJunFan> ne1 know how I can get konqueror to play embedded videos with something other than kaffeine or kmplayer? I've removed the kmplayer plugin, and have the vlc-plugin installed and konq see's it but still tries to use kmplayer.
[12:59] <zerf> ok English. I have a question : when I write in the console "  su   "  I have a problem for write the password -> I cannot write ! I can just enter et than it's a error ...
[12:59] <Minataku> !fr | zerf
[12:59] <ubotu> zerf: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:00] <zerf> oups thanks ^
[01:00] <zerf> bye ++
[01:00] <Minataku> np
[01:01] <manfred> Hab ein Problem mit dem kubuntu! Wer kann mir helfen?
[01:02] <soulrider> !de
[01:02] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:02] <soulrider> i hope that was de =/
[01:03] <bobleny> !themes
[01:03] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[01:04] <ubuntu> ubuntu-es
[01:06] <tony__> can i creat mysql database using openoffice.org database ????
[01:06] <peanutb> tony_, you have to have a mysql server
[01:06] <tony__> I do
[01:07] <peanutb> tony_, i usually use phpmyadmin
[01:07] <peanutb> its a web interface
[01:07] <tony__> but i need something more visual
[01:07] <peanutb> tony_, then id try mysql-admin
[01:08] <tony__> i seen some php script that do have mysql script that executes and creates the database . how that is done ???
[01:08] <h3sp4wn>  the /topic should be changed to Feisty Herd 2 Released
[01:09] <TheDebugger> festy 2 is out?
[01:11] <tony__> how can i search for more IRC channels : :| im lost :|
[01:12] <gnomefreak> h3sp4wn: the topic in #ubuntu+1 should be the only topic with it in it
[01:12] <h3sp4wn> this one currently has  Feisty Herd 1 Released
[01:12] <gnomefreak> shouldnt have feisty at all in it
[01:12] <gnomefreak> not this early in devel
[01:13] <Flosoft> ok ... i'm really stuck now
[01:13] <h3sp4wn> gnomefreak: change it then I guess (I cannot)
[01:13] <Flosoft> I got this Core2Duo Laptop ... Radeon Xpress 200M
[01:13] <Flosoft> the native res is 1280x800
[01:13] <Flosoft> it displays with alot of errors
[01:14] <Flosoft> any idea on how to fix this?
[01:14] <Flosoft> I ran dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg without any luck
[01:14] <h3sp4wn> Flosoft: do you use fglrx ?
[01:14] <Flosoft> the resolution isn't even showed in the end
[01:14] <Flosoft> h3sp4wn: yes
[01:14] <h3sp4wn> Flosoft: what version ?
[01:14] <Flosoft> edgy
[01:14] <h3sp4wn> !info fglrx-driver
[01:14] <ubotu> Package fglrx-driver does not exist in any distro I know
[01:15] <h3sp4wn> !info xserver-xorg-driver-fglrx
[01:15] <ubotu> Package xserver-xorg-driver-fglrx does not exist in any distro I know
[01:15] <Flosoft> I installed xorg-driver-fglrx
[01:16] <h3sp4wn> there was alot of fixes for your card in 8.32.5
[01:16] <gnomefreak> on edgy you need video
[01:16] <gnomefreak> not driver
[01:16] <Flosoft> ?
[01:16] <gnomefreak> driver == dapper and before
[01:16] <Flosoft> how do I get them?
[01:17] <gnomefreak> xserver-xorg-video-all will do it
[01:17] <gnomefreak> install that package
[01:17] <h3sp4wn> I would in this case go for newer ones from ati.com
[01:17] <gnomefreak> or replace all with the driver
[01:17] <Flosoft> Version 7.1.0-8.28.8+2
[01:17] <Flosoft> can I use the ati driver?
[01:17] <h3sp4wn> the Xpress-200m has a wierd memory setup
[01:17] <Flosoft> instead of fglrx?
[01:18] <Flosoft> I just need a driver that works
[01:18] <h3sp4wn> no 3d at all with ati driver because of aboe
[01:18] <soulrider> does anyone know if theres a Dr. Mario clone for linux? i have searched but found nothing
[01:18] <Flosoft> no need for 3d
[01:18] <h3sp4wn> You would probably still need a modeline
[01:19] <Flosoft> ok ... I set some graphic stuff in KDE
[01:19] <Flosoft> how do I remove that?
[01:20] <h3sp4wn> does the mode appear if you run xrandr
[01:20] <h3sp4wn> No idea about kde
[01:23] <Flosoft> h3sp4wn: no it doesn't show the mode in xrandr
[01:23] <h3sp4wn> but it lists other unsuitable modes ?
[01:23] <Flosoft> yes
[01:24] <Flosoft> well it now started with 1280x768
[01:24] <Flosoft> but I need 1280x800
[01:24] <Flosoft> otherwise the screen interpolates
[01:24] <h3sp4wn> Modeline "1280x800@60" 83.91 1280 1312 1624 1656 800 816 824 841
[01:25] <h3sp4wn> edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf - add that to Section "Screen"
[01:25] <Flosoft> ok
[01:25] <h3sp4wn> and at the bottom add "1280x800@60" beside all the other modes (first)
[01:25] <Flosoft> can I delete the secion monitor?
[01:25] <sleepy332> what's the command to see what version of nvidia driver i'm running?
[01:26] <h3sp4wn> Flosoft: No don't touch anything other than what I said
[01:26] <Flosoft> ok
[01:26] <h3sp4wn> sleepy332:  cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version
[01:26] <sleepy332> thanks
[01:30] <Flosoft> h3sp4wn: should I add -hsync +vsync at the end of the line?
[01:32] <camerong> hey does kubuntu use the xserver system?
[01:32] <soulrider> xorg?
[01:32] <camerong> yeah
[01:33] <camerong> ?
[01:34] <soulrider> sure
[01:34] <soulrider> it uses xorg
[01:34] <h3sp4wn> Flosoft: You don't need to
[01:34] <camerong> crap
[01:34] <camerong> mabye u can help me
[01:34] <soulrider> camerong: why ?
[01:34] <camerong> i cant use xserver on my graphics card... so i need a linux distro that doesnt use it
[01:35] <Eruantalon> what card is it?
[01:35] <soulrider> well, if you wanna run KDE or GNOME or like... anything youll need it
[01:35] <soulrider> i think
[01:35] <Flosoft> ok ... this xorg.conf seems to be completely f'cked up
[01:35] <Flosoft> I'll paste it
[01:36] <Flosoft> one sec
[01:36] <camerong> i once booted damn small linux from a usb and my comp. didnt screw up like it did becuase of xserver with ubuntu
[01:36] <camerong> do u know what damn smalll linux uses?
[01:36] <h3sp4wn> Xfree86 I think
[01:36] <camerong> that is like an alternative to xorg?
[01:37] <soulrider> camerong: what card do you have ?
[01:37] <h3sp4wn> camerong: Yep
[01:38] <h3sp4wn> Last time I checked it used an old version of Xfree86 (to keep size down)
[01:38] <camerong> i have a radeon ati x300
[01:38] <Flosoft> h3sp4wn: my xorg.conf: http://paste.florianjensen.com/?23
[01:39] <camerong> but point is to get the package to use xorg with it i need to download it with internet on ubuntu, and i cant get internet on my ubuntu until ive downloaded a package to use my wireless card, so i need internet to get internet.. which makes it impossible to fix my problem
[01:39] <Flosoft> it has 2 times monitor and screen
[01:39] <Flosoft> could you paste me a xorg.conf which should work?
[01:40] <camerong> are u talking to me flosoft?
[01:40] <h3sp4wn> Flosoft: move the old xorg.conf somewhere
[01:40] <Flosoft> I did
[01:40] <Flosoft> h3sp4wn: I got a backup at xorg.conf.old
[01:40] <h3sp4wn> and then run ati-config --initial (so it forces it to make a new one)
[01:40] <camerong> did u guys read my last 2 messages?
[01:41] <Flosoft> h3sp4wn: I need a package for that
[01:41] <Flosoft> which one is it?
[01:41] <h3sp4wn> I thought it was part of fglrx
[01:41] <camerong> ..?
[01:41] <Flosoft> fglrx-control maybe?
[01:42] <camerong> hello
[01:42] <camerong> ?
[01:42] <camerong> can u guys read this?
[01:42] <h3sp4wn> Flosoft: Possibly
[01:42] <N6REJ> I just installed edgy server and its installing the updates REALLY slow.
[01:42] <Flosoft> nope ... doesn't seem to work
[01:42] <h3sp4wn> maybe its aticonfig
[01:43] <N6REJ> I didn't realise it installed edgy until after it booted, I don't know what to do now.
[01:43] <Flosoft> Warning: Could not find configuration file
[01:43] <Flosoft> Please copy configuration file template to /etc/X11
[01:44] <mineur> updates are slow here too
[01:45] <h3sp4wn> Flosoft: that was with aticonfig --initial ?
[01:45] <Flosoft> yeah
[01:45] <N6REJ> any advice?  I'm on a dsl connection and its been all day just to install 60mb.  32kb/s is all I'm getting
[01:46] <h3sp4wn> feisty herd2 was released could be why servers are slow
[01:46] <N6REJ> I'm using the "us.archive.ubuntu.com" connection
[01:46] <mineur> ok? that's really slow :d
[01:46] <h3sp4wn> N6REJ: try dropping the us.
[01:46] <N6REJ> yeah!
[01:46] <N6REJ> h3, ok, I'll try that.
[01:47] <mineur> i'm on be
[01:47] <h3sp4wn> Flosoft: sudo aticonfig --force --initial
[01:48] <otaku-san> how would I get a shell script I have and link it to konqueror to make it call itself Finder
[01:48] <Flosoft> Paerse error on line 131 of section Screen in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:48] <Flosoft> 83.91 is not a valid keyword in this section
[01:49] <h3sp4wn> Flosoft: You cannot have deleted the existing one
[01:49] <Flosoft> ok
[01:49] <Flosoft> I deleted it
[01:49] <Flosoft> now it says no config file found
[01:49] <Flosoft> should I create a blank one?
[01:50] <mineur> what are you trying to do?
[01:50] <N6REJ> turning the cd back on too
[01:50] <h3sp4wn> Flosoft: --force --initial should force one to be created
[01:51] <N6REJ> me?
[01:51] <mineur> you're trying to update your system... I know that :d
[01:52] <N6REJ> mineur its a clean install  and I'm trying to install the build-essentials and such so I an install quasar
[01:52] <N6REJ> much much better now... 205kbs
[01:53] <N6REJ> I was beginning to think I had been throttled
[01:53] <mineur> I just switched from windows on my laptop... thought I'd give it a try, see if my laptop runs linux nicely yet :)
[01:53] <Flosoft> h3sp4wn: ok ... now it created this: http://paste.florianjensen.com/?24
[01:53] <N6REJ> depends on the distro and the hardware but most laptops are well supported these days
[01:54] <mineur> seems like it :)
[01:54] <Flosoft> no resolutions there :S
[01:54] <specialbuddy> how to I install nvidia drivers
[01:55] <N6REJ> depends.... you can get'm from Nvidia or thorough kde
[01:55] <h3sp4wn> Flosoft: add the modeline to Section screen
[01:55] <specialbuddy> do you know how to get KDM to work?
[01:56] <h3sp4wn> Modes           "1280x1024@60"
[01:56] <N6REJ> kdm?
[01:56] <specialbuddy> yeah
[01:56] <N6REJ> whats kdm?
[01:56] <specialbuddy> it's the login screen
[01:56] <mineur> kde display manager :)
[01:56] <h3sp4wn> Flosoft: put the Modes but under the Depth 24
[01:57] <N6REJ> OH
[01:57] <N6REJ> lol
[01:57] <Flosoft> ok ... my screen section
[01:57] <Flosoft> Section "Screen"
[01:57] <Flosoft>         Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0] "
[01:57] <N6REJ> start - > settings
[01:57] <Flosoft>         Device     "aticonfig-Device[0] "
[01:57] <mineur> like gdm, but then with a k :p
[01:57] <Flosoft>         Monitor    "aticonfig-Monitor[0] "
[01:57] <Flosoft>         DefaultDepth     24
[01:57] <Flosoft>         SubSection "Display"
[01:57] <Flosoft>                 Viewport   0 0
[01:57] <Flosoft>                 Depth     24
[01:57] <Flosoft>         Modes      "1280x1024@60"
[01:57] <Flosoft>         EndSubSection
[01:57] <h3sp4wn> don't paste here
[01:57] <mineur> to install your driver for nvidia: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[01:57] <mineur> follow the wiki dude :)
[01:58] <N6REJ> thanks mineur, been out of the loop for a while here
[01:58] <h3sp4wn> Flosoft: You didn't add the modeline I gave you it before
[01:58] <N6REJ> breezy was brand new last I played
[01:58] <mineur> np :)
[01:58] <Flosoft> ah
[01:58] <Flosoft> that one
[01:58] <h3sp4wn> Flosoft: It shouldn't be 1280x1024 it should be what I put before and what you told me)
[01:59] <mineur> I'm a first time ubuntu user, before I was a debian fan :)
[02:00] <N6REJ> ubuntu/kubuntu et al is a really nice distro
[02:00] <h3sp4wn> debian has a one line command for nvidia
[02:00] <mineur> I don't know, I don't have a nvidia card :d
[02:00] <N6REJ> if It was server only AND in the public realm I'd probably still choose Engarde, but those would be the two I'd pick
[02:01] <mineur> well at first sight it sure looks great :)
[02:01] <N6REJ> h3sp4wn: depends on the nv card.  Some you have to turn things off and others on... unless thats changed too.
[02:01] <h3sp4wn> N6REJ: Only if its connected in a wierd configuration
[02:02] <mineur> define weird.... :d
[02:02] <Flosoft> hmm somehow it already works without the other stuff
[02:02] <makuseru> is there anyway to change The TCP/IP parameters in kubuntu?
[02:03] <odysseus> hi
[02:03] <odysseus> need some noob help
[02:03] <odysseus> for kubuntu 6.1
[02:03] <mineur> lol
[02:03] <mineur> what a nice intro :p
[02:03] <N6REJ> makuseru: tons, in the gui go to start -> system settings -> network
[02:03] <h3sp4wn> Flosoft: What do you mean ?
[02:03] <Mr_L0rD> what's differnce between kbuntu and ubuntu ?
[02:03] <odysseus> i did that.
[02:03] <N6REJ> h3sp4wn: ah
[02:03] <Flosoft> h3sp4wn: it works without "1280x800@60" 83.91 1280 1312 1624 1656 800 816 824 841 ... the res and the hrtz are enough
[02:03] <odysseus> i cant connect to internet
[02:04] <specialbuddy> what's the best way to get the nvidia drivers to work
[02:04] <Flosoft> with the numbers it doesn't work
[02:04] <mineur> kubuntu = ubuntu with kde
[02:04] <N6REJ> yep
[02:04] <Mr_L0rD> so i have kubuntu !! lol
[02:04] <Flosoft> is it normal that the lettertype is extremely small?
[02:04] <N6REJ> and there's xubuntu which is ubuntu redesigned for kids AND with LTSP pre-built in
[02:04] <specialbuddy> what's the best way to get the nvidia drivers to work
[02:04] <odysseus> kubutnu recognizes my wifi but it does not connect to it nor the ethernet :(
[02:04] <h3sp4wn> Flosoft: but you added the Modes "1280x800@60"?
[02:04] <Flosoft> yeah
[02:05] <h3sp4wn> N6REJ: Thats edubuntu
[02:05] <Flosoft> but without all the numbers behind it
[02:05] <mineur> specialbuddy... follow the wiki: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[02:05] <N6REJ> h3sp4wn: yep thats the one ty.
[02:05] <Flosoft> but the texts are extremely small
[02:05] <specialbuddy> thanks
[02:05] <h3sp4wn> N6REJ: xubuntu is just less bloated than kubuntu and ubuntu
[02:05] <N6REJ> I forgot the command for finding the version.
[02:05] <Mr_L0rD> normaly kubuntu recognize either ethenet or wifi
[02:05] <Mr_L0rD> u have to configure something at the prefernec
[02:06] <Mr_L0rD> preference
[02:06] <N6REJ> x is the one with the really light window manager.... yeah, I was mistaken... I knew what I meant.
[02:06] <odysseus> what ? i tried both auto or manual
[02:06] <BluesKaj> !xubuntu
[02:06] <odysseus> everyone tells me it connects with automatic
[02:06] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[02:07] <Mr_L0rD> have u activate it on the network parameters
[02:07] <odysseus> what do u mean mr_lord?
[02:08] <N6REJ> edgy is which 6.1?
[02:08] <BluesKaj> 6.10
[02:08] <Mr_L0rD> i have just configured kubuntu with my wifi adapter
[02:08] <N6REJ> k needed to make sure.
[02:08] <N6REJ> thanks
[02:08] <Mr_L0rD> i didn't do something special
[02:08] <odysseus> i tried to enter manually my dns,gateway, my windows ip etc.
[02:08] <Mr_L0rD> normally it detects it automatically
[02:08] <Mr_L0rD> no
[02:08] <Mr_L0rD> u do not have to do it
[02:09] <odysseus> it sees my wifi connection but it does not want to connect
[02:09] <odysseus> i tried almost everything - for a noob
[02:10] <Mr_L0rD> it will ask u only the essid and the wep on the properties u have to enter them
[02:10] <Mr_L0rD> may sure u enterd the good wep
[02:10] <odysseus> i also tried ethernet with no luck
[02:10] <Mr_L0rD> if not u can not connect
[02:10] <Mr_L0rD> do u have a router
[02:10] <odysseus> i disabled security key from my modem
[02:10] <Mr_L0rD> ok
[02:10] <odysseus> its open access
[02:10] <Mr_L0rD> ureboo ur router
[02:11] <Mr_L0rD> reboot ur router
[02:11] <Mr_L0rD> may be a pb with dhcp
[02:11] <odysseus> i did that (turn off turn on)
[02:11] <Mr_L0rD> witch modem u have ?
[02:11] <odysseus> maybe kubuntu has a bug or smthing
[02:11] <odysseus> speedtouch 585
[02:11] <odysseus> thomson
[02:12] <Mr_L0rD> u can connect with windows
[02:12] <odysseus> yes , with both ether and wifi
[02:12] <Mr_L0rD> by ethernet
[02:13] <Mr_L0rD> what do u see on the network parameters ?
[02:13] <odysseus> well, i enter administrator mode
[02:13] <Mr_L0rD> normally u ll have three type of connections
[02:13] <odysseus> and has some tabs
[02:13] <odysseus> i have both ether and wifi enabled
[02:13] <Mr_L0rD> u ll have 4 tabs
[02:14] <odysseus> yea i think so
[02:14] <odysseus> i have kubuntu 6,10
[02:14] <Mr_L0rD> me too and it works fine
[02:14] <odysseus> >:/
[02:14] <Mr_L0rD> did u entered the good ssid for wifi
[02:14] <odysseus> it workes automatically?
[02:15] <Mr_L0rD> no,, it's the name of ur wifi network
[02:15] <Mr_L0rD> it's writed on ur modem
[02:15] <odysseus> oh yes
[02:15] <odysseus> it detects my modem
[02:15] <odysseus> and i press connect
[02:15] <odysseus> "connection failed"
[02:16] <Mr_L0rD> where do u press connect
[02:16] <Mr_L0rD> ?
[02:16] <odysseus> on the wifi assistant
[02:16] <odysseus> somewhere in the k menu
[02:16] <mineur> yay finally the updates are downloaded
[02:17] <Mr_L0rD> hmm...! i just entered the name of my network wifi and i automatically connect to it
[02:17] <Mr_L0rD> i didn't have to pres connect
[02:17] <odysseus> i enter the name and connection failed
[02:17] <odysseus> i m writing from windows now
[02:18] <Mr_L0rD> i guess !  verify if u entered the good name
[02:18] <Mr_L0rD> if not reboot ur kubuntu then try
[02:18] <odysseus> yes i m sure cause i ve done it 20 times both capital and small letters
[02:19] <Mr_L0rD> hmm
[02:19] <odysseus> but even ethernet does not work
[02:19] <Mr_L0rD> so, may be u need some daemon or pakage on ur ubuntu
[02:19] <Mr_L0rD> normally an ethernet connection is automatically detected
[02:19] <mineur> is your ethernet card recognized?
[02:20] <odysseus> but why everyone else connects right away?
[02:20] <odysseus> where do i check that mineur?
[02:20] <pip`> mine connected by default
[02:20] <Mr_L0rD> system. administration
[02:20] <odysseus> on the network setting it says ether enabled
[02:20] <N6REJ> anyone here ever installed quasar?
[02:21] <odysseus> ok let me reboot on linux and try. brb
[02:21] <mineur> quasar?
[02:21] <mineur> what's that?
[02:21] <N6REJ> nice linux accounting program
[02:21] <N6REJ> http://www.linuxcanada.com
[02:21] <Mr_L0rD> anyone here installed bolzplatz2006 ????
[02:22] <mineur> I'm a poor student... don't need accounting... there's no money :p
[02:22] <N6REJ> lol
[02:22] <xertra> ok so for like 2 or three hours i've been trying to instal cinerella and it's seeming to be in possible. I've tried everything like from RPM and DEB and source. I can't install  it. By the way i'm running Kubuntu 6.10 64bit
[02:22] <N6REJ> xerta is it a 32bit or 64bit app?
[02:22] <xertra> i've tried both
[02:22] <Mr_L0rD> bolzplatz2006= a wonderful 3D soccer game
[02:22] <Mr_L0rD> any one installed it ?
[02:23] <N6REJ> xerta if its a 32bit app it may not run, or you may need to run it through linux32 first
[02:23] <mineur> nope... but I'll give it a try once I get my system configured like I want it :)
[02:23] <Mr_L0rD> lol
[02:23] <Rob-West> nixternal:
[02:24] <xertra> well it has some 64bit builds but those won't work either
[02:24] <Mr_L0rD> i can't lunch it
[02:24] <Mr_L0rD> grr
[02:24] <Mr_L0rD> oups, and now i have to sleep !!
[02:24] <Mr_L0rD> good night everyone
[02:24] <N6REJ> nitr
[02:24] <xertra> well they might be able to run but i can't install the list of dependicies it needs
[02:25] <Flosoft> any idea why knetworkmanager isn't working with WiFi ?
[02:26] <N6REJ> what nic?
[02:26] <h3sp4wn> Flosoft: Because it sucks - /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Modes.gz
[02:27] <N6REJ> xerta, then you'll likely have to fall back to 32 bit.
[02:27] <mineur> I'm gonna try to get beryl working here
[02:27] <xertra> meaning a whole different 32bit OS?
[02:27] <LeeJunFan> !chroot
[02:27] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[02:27] <N6REJ> xerta, unless you REALLY have a need for 64bit, I would stick with the 32bit distro.
[02:28] <N6REJ> lee interesting concept
[02:28] <N6REJ> neat idea
[02:28] <LeeJunFan> 32 bit runs almost everything faster than 64 anyway.
[02:28] <LeeJunFan> I used to run 64 but with the headaches and no gain in performance it wasn't worth it.
[02:28] <N6REJ> which is dumb but
[02:28] <N6REJ> *nods
[02:28] <xertra> why? i figured i'd be able to use more of my processor
[02:29] <N6REJ> only if the app is designed for it.
[02:29] <BluesKaj> LeeJunFan, agreed ...I switched from the 64bit to the x86 due hardware recognition probs
[02:29] <h3sp4wn> twice the registers should provide an improvement
[02:29] <N6REJ> mine was software, like firefox
[02:30] <N6REJ> FF in a 64bit envirorment is tough
[02:30] <h3sp4wn> I use e17 and the assembler parts are provided in both x64 and i386 parts so I would say it runs better than on i386
[02:30] <N6REJ> h3sp4wn: you would think so.
[02:30] <h3sp4wn> for imlib2 and evas at least
[02:30] <xertra> well i do know that cinerella is a 64bit and 32bit app it evens says like the best system to run it on was a 64bit.....of course it also suggested to get the most have 2 processors and 4gig ram
[02:31] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm...  i'm trying to figure out why dvds look, err, wrong.  animation has lots of traces and jerky movement...
[02:31] <h3sp4wn> 4gb ram is definately better on 64 bit
[02:31] <xertra> and I have FF with Flash running on my 64bit
[02:31] <h3sp4wn> I am not bothered for flash
[02:32] <BluesKaj> cinelerra is tough to learn for relative noobs like me ...very steep learning curve Kino and tovid work well enuff IMO
[02:32] <Rob-West> sup nixternal
[02:32] <mineur> brb restarting X
[02:32] <xertra> anything sorta close in capabilities like nero vision
[02:32] <BluesKaj> who "needs" 4G ram ?
[02:33] <h3sp4wn> BluesKaj: If you are dealing with video it would be sensible
[02:33] <BluesKaj> xerta yes ..otperforms nero vision in the command line mode
[02:33] <BluesKaj> outperforms
[02:33] <xertra> what out preforms it?
[02:34] <BluesKaj> the tovid GUI is iffy tho ...still being upgraded
[02:34] <h3sp4wn> BluesKaj: There are plenty of scientific / commercial things that need that quantity of ram
[02:34] <h3sp4wn> if not more
[02:35] <BluesKaj> commercial apps ...this is for civi street , who cars about commercial :)
[02:35] <N6REJ> graphics especially...more highspeed ram the better to a point
[02:35] <dartdog> what is the irc for kubuntu in spanish?
[02:35] <BluesKaj> !es
[02:35] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:35] <N6REJ> -esp?
[02:35] <LeeJunFan> 4gig of ram, I'd copy /usr/bin and /usr/lib to ramdisk :)
[02:35] <dartdog> thanks
[02:35] <Daisuke_Ido> could a seemingly reduced framerate in dvd playback be tied into my monitor refresh rate?
[02:35] <xertra> i'll try it. I don't really need anything to great i just like putting movies together sometimes. thats the only thing i really do find easier on windows. linux is the best for it's video making.
[02:35] <N6REJ> ooooo, that could be nice.
[02:36] <N6REJ> how about copying dvd's?
[02:36] <BluesKaj> K9 copy
[02:36] <N6REJ> sweet
[02:36] <N6REJ> I've got 3 I need to copy for a friend that shows how to use some tools.
[02:37] <LeeJunFan> yeah, k9copy is nice. Although sony (including columbia pics) dvd's copy protection is too much.
[02:37] <BluesKaj> really LeeJunFan, never came across that prob
[02:37] <N6REJ> yeah, sony is bad about that, luckily these are craft dvd's so don't have that I don't think
[02:37] <mineur> whohoooo
[02:37] <mineur> and beryl works lol
[02:38] <mineur> ok I'm starting to like ubuntu :p
[02:38] <N6REJ> lol
[02:38] <BluesKaj> well you can always use dvd shrink to strip the copy protection
[02:38] <LeeJunFan> BluesKaj: not those, you need anydvd on windows for the sony crap. DVDShrink won't even do them.
[02:38] <xertra> can i use tovid with my 64bit OS?
[02:38] <BluesKaj> beryl ...eye candy
[02:38] <revolution27> anyone want to help me install beryl?
[02:39] <N6REJ> !beryl
[02:39] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[02:39] <N6REJ> oh
[02:39] <BluesKaj> hmm, avoid sony at costs :) ...altho I have a sony camera :)
[02:39] <mineur> you bet... I like eye-candy!
[02:39] <mineur> :p
[02:40] <N6REJ> no place for beryl on a server :P
[02:40] <h3sp4wn> No place for beryl anywhere
[02:40] <h3sp4wn> use compiz if you have to
[02:40] <LeeJunFan> bah, beryl is sweet.
[02:40] <mineur> lol, I'd be worried if you'd be installing beryl on a server :p
[02:40] <mineur> hey comeon beryl is niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiceeeeeeeeeee :)
[02:40] <nene> hi
[02:40] <LeeJunFan> no place for a GUI on a server at all. :)
[02:40] <BluesKaj> bah humbug ...
[02:41] <mineur> never tried compiz tho
[02:41] <h3sp4wn> much more stable better code quality
[02:41] <N6REJ> LeeJunFan: well, there are times when its "convienient to have the gui".  but only temporarily
[02:41] <nene> i have a problem with kubuntu and my audio card
[02:41] <N6REJ> welcome to linux :D
[02:41] <nene> haha
[02:41] <LeeJunFan> N6REJ: heh, when you have to configure cups :)
[02:41] <h3sp4wn> use lpd
[02:41] <N6REJ> LeeJunFan: yep!
[02:42] <h3sp4wn> forget cups
[02:42] <N6REJ> or trying to dl a file from a shtml page :(
[02:42] <mineur> can't links2 handle that?
[02:42] <h3sp4wn> links2
[02:42] <N6REJ> links2?
[02:42] <N6REJ> there's a 2 now>?
[02:42] <h3sp4wn> !info links2
[02:42] <ubotu> links2: Web browser running in both graphics and text mode. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1pre23-1 (edgy), package size 2009 kB, installed size 3224 kB
[02:43] <mineur> console browsing :d love it
[02:43] <LeeJunFan> normally though on servers I'll just install the xlibs and use ssh X forwarding to run the app on my workstation's display.
[02:43] <N6REJ> oh sweeT!!!
[02:43] <BluesKaj> h3sp4wn, i got cups to work , finally ...it took some fooling around tho :)
[02:43] <h3sp4wn> If you are careful about what printer to buy then you can just use lpd
[02:43] <revolution27> on the beryl wiki for installing beryl with nVidea it says install the nVidia beta drivers...but i already have nVidea drivers. Are these different? I'm confused.
[02:44] <N6REJ> depends on the date, nvidia is constantly releasing new drivers
[02:44] <h3sp4wn> 9746 is in debian experimental backport them from there
[02:45] <revolution27> so i should go through the install process for those drivers?
[02:45] <h3sp4wn> don't use nvidia.com installer
[02:45] <BluesKaj> is there a way to make sure my CPU is using all of it's capabilities...seems to be using only half it's speed ?
[02:46] <soulrider> holy crap, i just went to my console (ctrl+alt+f1) and did "sudo links2 -g" and now its all screwed up. I see weird characters everywhere
[02:46] <N6REJ> my wife will be happy, I'm installed KDE for the gui, and its putting mahjong on there :(
[02:46] <h3sp4wn> soulrider: why you run a browser as root ?
[02:46] <soulrider> h3sp4wn: if i did it without sudo it gave me some framebuffer error
[02:46] <LeeJunFan> ugh, you should never run a browser as root, that's windows problem with all the spyware virus crap.
[02:47] <h3sp4wn> soulrider: maybe you want vesa-tng
[02:47] <soulrider> LeeJunFan: i didnt even open a site
[02:47] <soulrider> my screen got screwed up as soon as i opened it
[02:47] <LeeJunFan> ah
[02:47] <h3sp4wn> nvidia binary only drivers ?
[02:47] <soulrider> and i wasnt planning on surfing either
[02:47] <soulrider> h3sp4wn: yes, i got only my nvidia drivers
[02:48] <LeeJunFan> I accidentally used one of those ssh forwarded browsers thinking it was one on my local system, and visited some site with a javascript exploit that changed the password for root on a server. That was years ago, but the danger is there.
[02:48] <h3sp4wn> it works perfectly with acceleration on ati r200 (you don't need X its nice to use) nvidia forces you to run X though really
[02:48] <N6REJ> soulrider: what they're trying to say, is basically you don't perform surgery if you just want to look.  Use root only when NEEDED not just for anything
[02:48] <soulrider> N6REJ: i know when to use root or not
[02:48] <N6REJ> k
[02:48] <soulrider> i just wanted to see hwo links2 worked, thats all
[02:49] <h3sp4wn> X has no place on most servers anyway
[02:49] <soulrider> i thought graphics on a console would be kinds cool :P
[02:49] <vulcanius__> it's wasteful
[02:49] <xera> quick question before i go, is it possible to make konversation execute multiple commands on connect?
[02:49] <h3sp4wn> They are not unless you have a hardware accelerated framebuffer (r200, mga)
[02:50] <vulcanius__> lol
[02:50] <vulcanius__> my server is running at like 20mb RAM usage now
[02:50] <vulcanius__> it's beautiful
[02:50] <mineur> brb
[02:51] <LeeJunFan> uptime on my mailserver:  20:51:00 up 270 days, 22:09 :)
[02:51] <N6REJ> there's this one linux distro that runs on like 8mb of ram and from a single floppy.  and its GORGEOUS.. tiny linux or something like that.
[02:51] <h3sp4wn> 2 different things - xorg should not be on a server (even the libs)
[02:51] <N6REJ> LeeJunFan: nice.
[02:51] <vulcanius__> you mean damn small linux?
[02:51] <h3sp4wn> links2 -g is good with an accelerated framebuffer (on a desktop instead of X)
[02:51] <N6REJ> vulcanius__: thats it
[02:51] <xera> N6REJ: DSL
[02:51] <xera> Damn-Small-Linux
[02:52] <N6REJ> amazing distro
[02:52] <mineur> sweet
[02:52] <h3sp4wn> ucrux is a good distro
[02:52] <vulcanius__> hrm... i really need to tune apache2 now
[02:52] <h3sp4wn> very very fast
[02:52] <vulcanius__> it's hogging ram
[02:52] <N6REJ> never tried that one.
[02:52] <LeeJunFan> I made an access point on a WRAP board, put ubuntu (trimmed down to about 60M size) on a compact flash card for it.
[02:52] <xera> N6REJ: only problem with DSL is it's very buggy..
[02:52] <mineur> never even heard of it
[02:52] <vulcanius__> h3sp4wn: got a link for that?
[02:53] <xera> apt doesn't work in it(the enable thing won't work) :S
[02:53] <vulcanius__> LeeJunFan: who did you get the board from?
[02:53] <LeeJunFan> vulcanius__: wisp-router.net
[02:53] <h3sp4wn> vulcanius__: search ucrux (its crux linux but built against uclibc so its small)
[02:53] <N6REJ> xera: ah, I know I tried it for a while on one machine that I couldn't get anything else to run on.
[02:53] <vulcanius__> LeeJunFan: awesome site, thank for that man.
[02:54] <h3sp4wn> vulcanius__: ryns good on a laptop take out the harddrive and run from a compact flash card
[02:54] <vulcanius__> well i was looking at creating a new embedded device
[02:55] <vulcanius__> i actually like simplymepis
[02:55] <vulcanius__> with matchbox
[02:55] <N6REJ> what ever happened to that company that had an entire pc on a hardrive
[02:55] <N6REJ> for like $700?
[02:56] <vulcanius__> probably died like the rest of them
[02:56] <vulcanius__> i've been trying to get ahold of the folks at WinSystems
[02:56] <N6REJ> it was an awesome concept
[02:56] <vulcanius__> but i swear to god they must not ever check their email
[02:57] <N6REJ> like a pc in a kbd, still around but expensive
[02:57] <vulcanius__> N6REJ: there was something like that on digg today
[02:57] <N6REJ> oh?
[02:57] <vulcanius__> hold on
[02:57] <N6REJ> I almost forgot about digg, digg is cool
[02:58] <N6REJ> I need to make an "envirormentally safe" pc.  where dust and vapors can't hurt anything
[02:58] <mineur> does aterm stil exist?
[02:58] <lupine_85> N6REJ: you'll have a hard time
[02:58] <lupine_85> oh, wait
[02:59] <lupine_85> you'll be wanting solid-state everything, then :)
[02:59] <lupine_85> what sort of specs are you after?
[02:59] <N6REJ> lupine_85: I want it for my workshop... very high dust
[02:59] <N6REJ> I am a woodworker... http://www.treeturner.com
[02:59] <lupine_85> mm, I was thinking environmentally safe as in green ;)
[02:59] <xera> encase it in cling film :D
[02:59] <lupine_85> considered a soekris/wrap board?
[03:00] <N6REJ> xera: its gotta breath to stay cool, course at -10 like tonight it is freezing in the shop.. only about 40 WITH the heater on.
[03:00] <vulcanius__> N6REJ: hey, we have something in common, i work in a paper mill, heh
[03:00] <N6REJ> lupine_85: nope, never heard of it before.
[03:00] <N6REJ> vulcanius__: talk about stink! lol been to one of those before.
[03:00] <xera> um
[03:00] <vulcanius__> yeah
[03:00] <vulcanius__> it's funny
[03:01] <vulcanius__> the steam we use just floats outside
[03:01] <xera> wrap it in cling film, then ice, then cling film again
[03:01] <h3sp4wn> lupine_85: they are very very slow
[03:01] <vulcanius__> so the concrete walkways and road are actually covered in paper
[03:01] <xera> problem solved!
[03:01] <N6REJ> hahahhaha gives new meaning to "liquid" cooled
[03:01] <BluesKaj> what's command to see the cpu usage ?
[03:01] <N6REJ> blues ps
[03:01] <xera> BluesKaj: ksysguard xD
[03:02] <vulcanius__> go with a board using AMD Geode if you want to be "green"
[03:02] <N6REJ> thing that bothers me the most is the monitor... not sure how to handle that one.
[03:02] <vulcanius__> last i checked they are like 0.9W power usage
[03:02] <h3sp4wn> xscale performs better
[03:02] <N6REJ> really? hmmmmmm... maybe good for my rv
[03:03] <vulcanius__> N6REJ: OLED
[03:03] <N6REJ> oled?
[03:03] <xera> old*
[03:03] <N6REJ> AH LOL
[03:03] <vulcanius__> , oled
[03:03] <mineur> hmmm the servers for updating are really slow :(
[03:03] <vulcanius__> not old, oled, heh
[03:03] <h3sp4wn> x86 sucks for embedded
[03:03] <vulcanius__> have you never heard of OLED screens before?
[03:03] <N6REJ> Minuer your about an hour late, I already said that LOL
[03:03] <N6REJ> nope
[03:04] <mineur> :p
[03:04] <Alarm> hen doing apt-get update , i get that message: W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_edgy-security_main_binary-i386_Packages) how can this be fixed ?
[03:04] <vulcanius__> here is the device..... http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS4105652894.html
[03:04] <xera> Alarm: remove the duplicate entry
[03:04] <BluesKaj> no , i want to know what the CPU speed is ...mine's supposed to be 2GHZ , but I saw something that said it was using only 1GHZ
[03:04] <vulcanius__> BluesKaj: what type of processor is it?
[03:05] <LeeJunFan> BluesKaj: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:05] <BluesKaj> AMD 64 Venice 3200+
[03:05] <mineur> alarm: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the duplicate lines
[03:05] <LeeJunFan> BluesKaj: it's probably operating at a lower speed to save power, they only step up when you actually put the cpu under load.
[03:05] <LeeJunFan> BluesKaj: not to mention it helps keep it cool and last longer.
[03:06] <Alarm> mineur,  thank you a lot for the tip dude. i know the file. just didnt notice i have it twice. how can i be sure i have added most of good repos ?
[03:06] <BluesKaj> ok , thx LeeJunFan
[03:06] <vulcanius__> Alarm... there is actually a sources.list you can get out there that is huge
[03:06] <N6REJ> easy, but I forget the rest of it.
[03:06] <N6REJ> !repos
[03:06] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:06] <vulcanius__> anyone know what the sources.list i'm thinking of is?
[03:06] <LeeJunFan> !easysource
[03:06] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:07] <N6REJ> ty lee
[03:07] <Alarm> somehow i cant find a double entry...
[03:07] <LeeJunFan> don't add non-ubuntu repositories unless you absolutely have too, it may sound like a good idea to add them all in, but you end up with dependancy conflicts.
[03:07] <N6REJ> is apt-clean the command to clean the cache?
[03:08] <LeeJunFan> N6REJ: apt-get clean
[03:08] <N6REJ> do that alarm, then try update
[03:08] <Alarm> i pasted me sources list here: http://mishu.eu.org/paste/view.php?id=2998
[03:08] <Alarm> could someone help figure out where is the duplicate line ?
[03:10] <vulcanius__> Alarm: take a look at the error you received
[03:10] <N6REJ> 25 & 26 ?
[03:10] <Alarm> 25 26 i thought that the source is something different from the normal deb
[03:10] <mineur> alarm:
[03:11] <mineur> line 45
[03:11] <mineur> and 41
[03:11] <N6REJ> yep, in security
[03:11] <mineur> 45 is main restricted universe multiverse
[03:11] <mineur> while 41 already is already restricted
[03:11] <vulcanius__> oh come on, your supposed to let him deduce it
[03:11] <N6REJ> 41-44 are not needed imho
[03:12] <N6REJ> lol
[03:12] <xera> alrighty then, sleep time.. 2am is late enough
[03:12] <Alarm> so i remove 45
[03:12] <Alarm> thank you
[03:12] <Alarm> and 41
[03:12] <N6REJ> read it carefully, its your security section
[03:12] <mineur> I'd say remove 41, cause 45 includes 41... :)
[03:12] <mineur> when you have duplicate entries... it might not be good to remove both :p
[03:13] <vulcanius__> i use deb and deb-src for.....
[03:13] <Alarm> okie, thanks
[03:13] <Alarm> thought that those 2 things are different
[03:13] <N6REJ> Alarm: do make a backup please
[03:13] <vulcanius__> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[03:14] <vulcanius__> and http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe
[03:14] <vulcanius__> on my production server
[03:16] <vulcanius__> heh. i wonder.... is it possible to use Xen to make virtual private servers.... on top of virtual private servers?
[03:17] <Alarm> should i remove also the deb-src  entry ?
[03:17] <vulcanius__> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted universe multiverse
[03:17] <vulcanius__> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted universe multiverse
[03:17] <vulcanius__> just those two
[03:17] <vulcanius__> keep those
[03:17] <vulcanius__> and remove the rest
[03:18] <Alarm> ok done. thank you a lot
[03:20] <mineur> I just use the standard sources and added the Beryl repository, that's it...
[03:21] <N6REJ> need a brain break, I'll likely be back later
[03:21] <mineur> anyone knows of a program like serious samurize for linux?
[03:29] <specialbuddy> is there a good site for explaining xgl and kubuntu
[03:31] <BluesKaj> specialbuddy, http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/1000081
[03:31] <charlie5> !audio
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <Ropechoborra> Someone knows how can i get the dapper bootsplash? I want to see the proceses loading
[03:32] <Jucato> Ropechoborra: in your menu.lst, remove the "quiet" option in the kernel line
[03:32] <Jucato> the one that looks like "kernel /vmlinuz-blahblahblah ro quiet splash"
[03:32] <BluesKaj> specialbuddy, sorry for the mistake ...thought that was for edgy
[03:33] <specialbuddy> yeah I have edgy
[03:33] <Ropechoborra> Jucato a mean, dapper has a graphic bootsplash but also shows the proceses, in edgy just the logo
[03:33] <charlie5> hi folks ... is there a prob with audio atm ? after an updating kubuntu two days ago, amarok and audacity no longer have audio ... although audio with kaffeine and normal desktop sounds are ok ...
[03:33] <specialbuddy> and a new computer
[03:33] <Ropechoborra> i want that graphical bootsplash
[03:33] <specialbuddy> so I want to see how it works with the new hardware
[03:33] <Jucato> Ropechoborra: that's what I'm telling you...
[03:33] <Ropechoborra> Ok
[03:33] <Ropechoborra> Thanks! =)
[03:33] <Jucato> Ropechoborra: I didn't tell you to remove the "splash" option. only the "quiet" option
[03:34] <Ropechoborra> Ok thank you
[03:35] <specialbuddy> is there a place to change how fast the cpu runs?
[03:36] <BluesKaj> specialbuddy, well unless you have an ATI card , this might work for you; http://digg.com/linux_unix/XGL_on_Edgy_in_9_steps
[03:36] <specialbuddy> I HAVE NVIDIA
[03:36] <BluesKaj> then yer in business
[03:37] <arriesp> bye
[03:37] <manchicken> specialbuddy: I'm sorry to hear that.
[03:38] <specialbuddy> why are you sorry to hear that?
[03:38] <BluesKaj> anyway it's sacktime for me ...have an early getup at 4AM ...nite all
[03:39] <maman> join #kubuntu-id
[03:40] <rope> Jucato: I got "defoptions=splash" but it is with one #. Should i remove it? (i restarted and it is still the same)
[03:41] <Jucato> rope: um... no
[03:41] <Jucato> the "kernel /vmlinuz......" line I'm referring to is way down
[03:41] <Jucato> in the GRUB entry for Ubuntu kernel and stuff
[03:42] <rope> Its kind of weird.. i've modifyed also the ttys (ereased some) but there is no change dont know why
[03:42] <rope> Ok i'll see
[03:43] <specialbuddy> how can I tell if my cpu is running at full speed
[03:43] <manchicken> It's time for people to stop relying on crappy 3d rendering and start caring about style again.
[03:43] <Jucato> :P
[03:43] <lupine_85> :p
[03:44] <rope> Jucato: Guess i found it ! :) I'll try now ... thanks!
[03:44] <lupine_85> nah
[03:45] <noxwayxhome> hello, everyone
[03:46] <Cagarro> I have a modem-router and  I'd like to know if there is a way to program it with different vpi amd vci , for example. Tnks
[04:00] <vulcanius__> oh my god
[04:00] <vulcanius__> i just dropped the kids off on the floor
[04:00] <vulcanius__> zomgwtfbbqpwned
[04:06] <soulrider> vulcanius__: how old are then ?
[04:07] <vulcanius__> too old and not old enough
[04:07] <soulrider> =/
[04:07] <soulrider> but how can you... drop htem... ? =/
[04:07] <vulcanius__> heh
[04:08] <specialbuddy> what's the best app for getting wifi to work
[04:10] <bronze_0_1> Interesting, I just used Adept to add some packages and the "programming" menu choice, and everything that a choice under it, disappeared........ NOT good.  Anyone know how I can undo that?
[04:10] <specialbuddy> what's the best app for getting wifi to work
[04:10] <specialbuddy> what's the best app for getting wifi to work
[04:11] <vulcanius__> specialbuddy: the one thats soo good you only have to ask once and not get ignored by everyone because you spammed your question
[04:11] <bronze_0_1> whats the best app to make people wait a few minues for an answer when no one is helping them?
[04:11] <Cagarro> Network configurations (vpi vci , etc...) . Waht program should I use to get this kind of data ? tanks
[04:12] <bronze_0_1> vulcanius__: :-)
[04:15] <Cagarro> I would send them some cookies to entretain until they get the answer :)
[04:15] <bronze_0_1> heh
[04:17] <Cagarro> But , please, dont send me cookies because I dont like them :) I prefer to wait for my answer eating some popcorns
[04:18] <Cagarro> sorry for the engrish
[04:19] <manchicken> Cookies rock.
[04:19] <manchicken> Popcorn is good, too.
[04:19] <manchicken> Popcorn cookies?
[04:19] <Cagarro> lol
[04:19] <bronze_0_1> "rock hard" specially if i make them.
[04:20] <freshburn> hi all
[04:20] <freshburn> 2 quick questions
[04:21] <freshburn> and i think they are prob newb questions, is there a directory that i would find the majority of logs i would be looking for
[04:21] <vulcanius__> ./var/log
[04:21] <freshburn> and why the heck do i get a file named .directory on my desktop every time i boot
[04:21] <freshburn> ty
[04:22] <vulcanius__> because you have your system set to show hidden files
[04:22] <vulcanius__> any file with a period in front is "hidden"
[04:22] <freshburn> what is that file ah thats good info right there
[04:22] <vulcanius__> are you using Gnome? Kde?
[04:22] <freshburn> kubuntu edgy
[04:23] <vulcanius__> i'm not sure what the file is
[04:23] <vulcanius__> but to stop it from appearing
[04:23] <vulcanius__> click the Kde "start" menu and select System Settings
[04:23] <vulcanius__> a new window will open and there you will select "Desktop"
[04:24] <vulcanius__> there will be three tabs, General, File Icons, Device Icons
[04:24] <vulcanius__> select the File Icons tab and uncheck "Show hidden files" if it is checked.
[04:24] <freshburn> hm i may have tried to delete it a couple times including empty trash and it always reappears so it must not be important
[04:24] <freshburn> lol
[04:25] <inteliwasp> can someone help me figure out what is wring with my usb ports?
[04:25] <vulcanius__> then click Apply at the bottom right and exit to your desktop
[04:25] <freshburn> ty
[04:25] <freshburn> does ne1 have a hp pavilion 4930 laptop
[04:26] <freshburn> ' knows its a one in a million chance
[04:26] <the-erm> I'm trying to set up postfix so the outgoing bandwidth is much less than what it currently is.  Anyone know how to set that up?  Or where to set put a cbq.init file?
[04:26] <vulcanius__> inteliwasp: what does "lsmod | grep usb" return?
[04:26] <inteliwasp> vulcanius__:  "usbcore               130304  3 driverloader,ohci_hcd"
[04:27] <vulcanius__> inteliwasp: what type of device are you using USB for?
[04:28] <inteliwasp> vulcanius__:  ipod as a HD
[04:28] <vulcanius__> inteliwasp: what exactly is the problem?
[04:30] <inteliwasp> vulcanius__:  when i plug in my ipod, nothing picks it up, even in dmesg. but in knoppix i get a message in dmesg that there is no available power for the device. it is the only thing on there
[04:30] <vulcanius__> inteliwasp: do you have hotplug installed?
[04:31] <inteliwasp> vulcanius__:  it does not show up in adept
[04:31] <inteliwasp> vulcanius__:  and this ipod has worked on the laptop before
[04:31] <vulcanius__> have you enabled the universe and multiverse repos?
[04:32] <inteliwasp> vulcanius__:  yes
[04:33] <vulcanius__> do an apt-get update and apt-cache search hotplug
[04:33] <vulcanius__> actually forget that
[04:34] <vulcanius__> do "tail -f /var/log/messages" and plug in your ipod. see what it says
[04:35] <inteliwasp> vulcanius__:  nada, i'm gonna try to force diskmode
[04:36] <vulcanius__> did you just upgrade or something?
[04:36] <inteliwasp> vulcanius__:  no joy on that too
[04:36] <vulcanius__> do you have USB kernel support? heh
[04:36] <inteliwasp> i have been keeping up with pakages
[04:36] <inteliwasp> 1 sec
[04:37] <inteliwasp> vulcanius__:  usbmgr is not installed...
[04:40] <inteliwasp> ok now i'm pissed... i switched ports (i have 2) and all of the sudden it works...
[04:41] <vulcanius__> bad port then, heh
[04:41] <inteliwasp> more like erratic for both
[04:41] <inteliwasp> now to put fresh music on
[04:42] <freshbrnt> i was reading a faq on ubuntuguide.org and a popup asking me if i wanted to open a torrents.piratesbay.com torrent or save as popd up
[04:42] <freshbrnt> security hole? i didnt click nething
[04:44] <draik> Where can I get help with Ubuntu 6.10 server?
[04:44] <draik> Hey Jucato, stdin  I GOT SOUND!!!
[04:45] <irvin> Jucato,
[04:46] <inteliwasp> is it posible to have 2 x session running on one box? i want to use the local machine and a remote desktop
[04:46] <revolution27> hey guys, i installed beryl (works lovely) but now my nvidia driver doesn't seem to be working (beryl is fast but games run super slow)
[04:46] <revolution27> any ideas?
[04:47] <TheDebugger> revolution27: Turn beryl off when playing games?
[04:47] <revolution27> errr... i don't think hat's the prob... i think it broke my graphics card driver
[04:48] <manchicken> inteliwasp: Yes.  In your K menu, Switch User->Start New Session
[04:49] <draik> Was I just disconnected?
[04:49] <revolution27> yep
[04:50] <draik> ktorrent can wait
[04:50] <revolution27> would re-installing my drivers break beryl?
[04:50] <inteliwasp> manchicken:  how can i get a remote session going as a new local session?
[04:50] <draik> !beryl
[04:50] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:51] <revolution27> i would have done that if i wanted too
[04:51] <draik> I'm not sure what's going on, but my office smells like cinnamon-flavored pesticides
[04:52] <draik> !server
[04:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/
[04:52] <jerry_> Click here: http://cgi.metrocall.com/cgi-bin/default.cgi?TO=6192560249&Message=%2D+000000001&ReplyTo=&TID=
[04:55] <manchicken> inteliwasp: Dunno.  I'm sure that info is somewhere on google though.
[05:08] <revolution27> anyone here can answer an nvidia driver question?
[05:11] <freshbrnt> if you are driving and watching nvideo you might crash you car? j/k
[05:12] <revolution27> :(
[05:15] <Cagarro> revolution27, you're lucky. Mine is Ati and, from what I know, I will never see my ati radeon 9550 using it's full potencial in linux systems. ( sorry my english)
[05:16] <revolution27> yes but it's no sence having a nice graphics card if the drivers don't work :(
[05:17] <Jucato> !anyone
[05:17] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:19] <ZachPruckowski> when does Herd2 come out?
[05:19] <ZachPruckowski> within the next few days?
[05:19] <ZachPruckowski> it's like supposed to be right behind the main ubuntu release, right?
[05:20] <Jucato> Herd 2 is an snapshot alpha release for Feisty Fawn.
[05:20] <revolution27> when i try to install nvidia-glx adapt says the commit would break packages
[05:20] <Cagarro> Linux has been used mainly for servers. I guess that's why it lacks on good drivers. But things are changing and comunitys, like ubuntu, are working a lot to make linux a good client as well. Well, Servers serve who or what ? the final user. The one who uses a computer for concrete results. Office, net, gaming.. whatever
[05:21] <Jucato> Cagarro: actually the problem is mostly with the hardware manufacturers rather than on the Linux end.but anyway...
[05:21] <Jucato> revolution27: try installing it in the command line, you'll get more descriptive error messages
[05:21] <ZachPruckowski> I know what it is, I'm wondering when it's out :)
[05:21] <Dr_willis> linux is not lacking good drivers... :)   its the copanies that fail to release information that results in people having to reverse engineer things that makes bad driver
[05:21] <Jucato> ZachPruckowski: supposed to be this week (or yesterday...)
[05:22] <ZachPruckowski> sweet
[05:22] <Jucato> ZachPruckowski: but don't count on it being even 75% stable
[05:22] <ZachPruckowski> only the 2.6.19 kernel supports my DVD drive, so I'm tempted to update anyways
[05:22] <Jucato> ZachPruckowski: hm... it's not yet the time to update...
[05:22] <Cagarro> Yaa... i see :( it's all in the name of profit
[05:22] <Jucato> unless you're willing to test/run alpha releases
[05:23] <ZachPruckowski> I mean, I have to use Herd2 if I want to run it natively
[05:23] <ZachPruckowski> I'v got it in a VM now
[05:23] <revolution27> an@evan-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[05:23] <revolution27> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:23] <revolution27> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:23] <Jucato> ZachPruckowski: why not compile your kernel? I'm sure there are guides out there...
[05:23] <Jucato> revolution27: make sure Adept is closed
[05:23] <revolution27> oh lol
[05:23] <Jucato> revolution27: you can only run one process of apt-get at a time
[05:24] <manchicken> !paste
[05:24] <ubotu> paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[05:24] <ZachPruckowski> yeah, that's another option
[05:24] <aule> is there a way to tell if my computers audio supports recording from a microphone ?
[05:24] <revolution27> oh i think i got the problem
[05:25] <revolution27> i need nvidia-kernel-1.0.9746
[05:26] <revolution27> no that's not it.. i have the kernel
[05:26] <Jucato> revolution27: use pastebin, and show the error messages you get
[05:27] <revolution27> that's what i'm doing
[05:28] <calvarez> how do I add a user to a group?
[05:29] <revolution27> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1399/
[05:31] <Jucato> revolution27: you already have that package installed?
[05:31] <revolution27> nvidia-glx?
[05:31] <Jucato> calvarez: there's a Users & Groups module in System Settings... forgot where it is
[05:31] <Jucato> revolution27: no. the nvidia-kernel-1.0.9746
[05:31] <revolution27> yes
[05:32] <K`zan> cw=Z] QiMDPXNDQBM#PjK1SfN~
[05:32] <Jucato> hm...
[05:32] <K`zan> cw=Z] O[ShN,PfMhQJE0
[05:32] <K`zan> cw=Z] JxSIN-Q#MjPfK2PzNq
[05:32] <K`zan> cw=Z] GfP~M|SxNPS3N\
[05:32] <K`zan> cw=Z] H0PnMmP4Ej
[05:32] <Jucato> K`zan: stop that please
[05:32] <K`zan> OOOPs sorry WW, apologies!
[05:33] <revolution27> all this happened after i installed beryl
[05:33] <Jucato> aaah
[05:33] <Jucato> hm...
[05:33] <Jucato> no wonder...
[05:33] <revolution27> it messed up my nvidia driver
[05:34] <Jucato> the official ubuntu nvidia-kernel-xxxx don't have that 1.0.9746 version
[05:34] <Jucato> if you have removed beryl, remove the repository for it also
[05:34] <revolution27> ohh
[05:34] <revolution27> i haven't removed beryl
[05:35] <Jucato> hm... ok...
[05:35] <revolution27> so should i try another version of the driver?
[05:36] <Jucato> hm... strange... you should be able to install the nvidia-glx from beryl's repos
[05:36] <Jucato> try asking in #ubuntu-xgl, since the repositories for Beryl are not officially supported (yet)
[05:36] <revolution27> k
[05:55] <Dr_willis> The idea of Ubuntu Lite is to bring the power of Ubuntu across to the users of Legacy systems.
[05:55] <Dr_willis> yet another varient! yea....
[05:56] <Phlosten> Dr_willis: never enough variants
[05:57] <Dr_willis> I will admit i got 'mint linux' on my laptop...
[05:57] <Dr_willis> but i rarely use it. :)
[05:57] <Dr_willis> its ubuntu+codec/other things...
[05:58] <Phlosten> yer, i gave mint a miss
[05:58] <Dr_willis> i just tossed it on the laptop.. and let it stay..  it plays my videos. and i installed the other stuff i needed..
[05:58] <Dr_willis> gotta love playing with new disrtos.
[05:59] <Dr_willis> too many are to focused on eyecandy/xgl/whatever these days.. that stuff dont play well on my x200 based laptop
[05:59] <Phlosten> Dr_willis: indeed, I visit distrowatch.ciom regularly
[05:59] <Dr_willis> Phlosten,  i got them in my bookmark bar so i see daily updates. :P
[05:59] <Phlosten> Dr_willis: what sort of systems are you running?
[05:59] <Dr_willis> gotta love live-bookmarks
[06:00] <Dr_willis> got a Turion Based Laptop, AMD64 based main machine, and a MythTV box with a amd antlon 2.3 ghz.
[06:00] <Dr_willis> got a older box in the back room stripped down.. :) and an imac in the closet..
[06:00] <Phlosten> cool
[06:00] <Phlosten> my main machine is an Athlon 2000+, i give Beryl etc a wide berth
[06:01] <Jucato> hm... what's the difference between putting env vars in .bashrc and .bash_profile?
[06:01] <JonTec__> why can I not change my essid with iwconfig? I used to work fine, now it doesn't. It returns no output, so I guess it tried?
[06:01] <Dr_willis> .bash_profile is ONLY read by 'login shells" i belive
[06:01] <Dr_willis> or so i recall from the 'using bash guide/books'
[06:01] <Jucato> hm.... that tells me a lot... (not!) :P
[06:02] <Dr_willis> some terminal programs default to being a login shell. but try out  with 'xterm'  vs 'xterm -ls'
[06:02] <Dr_willis> initial shell is the login shell normally. stuff that dont need to get ran at every new term..  goes in .bash_profile
[06:03] <Dr_willis> toss in some 'echo this is .bash_profile' in there and see when it gets ran. :)
[06:03] <Jucato> stuff that need to be run at every new term, goes into .bashrc?
[06:03] <esaym> is there a ntp client that comes with kubuntu?
[06:03] <esaym> for automatic time updates...
[06:03] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  yea.. often its not even that big a deal these days.. normally one may even call the other..  .bash_profile may source the .bashrc, and the /etc/profile also.
[06:04] <Jucato> Dr_willis: my problem is, I added a new path in .bash_profile. new konsole sessions can't seem to read it unless I do source .bash_profile... means I probably need to logout
[06:05] <Dr_willis> thats because they are not 'login shells' However if you set the path in the .bash_profile and lot totally out back in. they 'should' inherate it from the original shell. (i think)
[06:05] <K-Ryan> Hey guys, I'm trying to compile something and have no idea how to, can I link you guys to what I'm trying to compile and someone can tell me what to do?
[06:05] <Jucato> Dr_willis: ok... I think I'm beginning to understand it a bit...
[06:06] <K-Ryan> I'm a Linux noob so anything would be appreciated
[06:06] <Dr_willis> konsole -ls
[06:06] <Dr_willis> runs it as a login shell
[06:06] <Dr_willis> or so the man page says :)
[06:06] <Jucato> yeah, but now it duplicates some of the entries.. anyway, I'm going to logout and back in
[06:06] <Dr_willis> login shells save you from having to rerun/redo a lot of scripts when its not needed.
[06:07] <Dr_willis> !source
[06:07] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[06:07] <Dr_willis> K-Ryan,  we can try. :)
[06:07] <K-Ryan> If you would be so kind
[06:07] <Dr_willis> K-Ryan,  for a start you proberly need to install the 'build-essential' package
[06:07] <K-Ryan> Don't know, but here's the link http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=151126
[06:08] <K-Ryan> It says I have to "type make defend" then "type make"
[06:08] <K-Ryan> I assume that's in the terminal or something
[06:08] <Dr_willis> egads...
[06:08] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:08] <Dr_willis> yes those are terminal commands.
[06:08] <Dr_willis> make
[06:08] <K-Ryan> I opened the src folder in the terminal, typed make defend, and nothing happened
[06:09] <K-Ryan> invalid command
[06:09] <Dr_willis> is the main command that compiles stuff in a detailed maner..
[06:09] <Dr_willis> K-Ryan,  for a start you proberly need to install the 'build-essential' package
[06:09] <K-Ryan> Okay, website or in the giant list of apps?
[06:09] <Dr_willis> !info build-essential
[06:09] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3 (edgy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[06:09] <Dr_willis> use 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[06:09] <K-Ryan> Yes yes, where can I get it?
[06:09] <K-Ryan> in the terminal?
[06:09] <Dr_willis> with the package manager :)
[06:09] <Dr_willis> yes.
[06:10] <Dr_willis> or use adept if you perfer. search, click, install.
[06:10] <K-Ryan> Btw, is there a shortcut for the terminal?
[06:10] <K-Ryan> Perhaps turning my Windows key to a "Linux key"?
[06:10] <K-Ryan> =)
[06:10] <Jucato> Dr_willis: thanks
[06:10] <Jucato> you can make one if you want
[06:10] <Jucato> right-click on the entry for Konsole in the K Menu -> Edit this Item
[06:11] <Jucato> at the bottom, there's a setting for keyboard shortcuts
[06:11] <Dr_willis> i always drag the konsole icon to the panel.. so i always got one handy
[06:11] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:11] <K-Ryan> I run Windows as a main, so of course my keyboard has it
[06:11] <K-Ryan> It was a computer package blah blah blah
[06:11] <Dr_willis> i got a closet of keyboards. :)
[06:11] <Delphinus> who would I talk to re. fixing a spelling mistake on one of the ubuntu howto's please?
[06:12] <Dr_willis> found this IBM one at a rummage sale for $3
[06:12] <K-Ryan> If it works, it's worth it right?
[06:12] <lovloss> How come this creates a bug? :   #include <qapplication.h>
[06:13] <Jucato> where does it create a bug?
[06:13] <bonbonthejon> anyone have experience with raids
[06:13] <K-Ryan> in the adept installer "build-essential" gives no results
[06:15] <Dr_willis> K-Ryan,  try the shell then. its in 'main' so it should be availiable
[06:16] <K-Ryan> shell?
[06:16] <K-Ryan> <-- Linux noob
[06:16] <Jucato> command line
[06:16] <Dr_willis> yes where you TYPE commands
[06:16] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:16] <K-Ryan> shell=terminal?
[06:16] <lovloss> nm
[06:16] <Dr_willis> the terminal program = konsole normally. it runs a 'shell' normally 'bash'
[06:16] <Jucato> shell == command line interpreter program
[06:17] <Jucato> actually, Konsole is a terminal "emulator"... but yeah you could call it a terminal too :P
[06:17] <K-Ryan> can i use the kubuntu terminal, that's what I'm asking
[06:17] <Dr_willis> or a "console emulator"
[06:18] <Dr_willis> K-Ryan,  thats the 'konsole'  program.. yes...
[06:18] <K-Ryan> Thank you for the clear up
[06:18] <Dr_willis> theres proberly 12+ dirrerent 'terminal emulators' ya could use. :)
[06:18] <Dr_willis> the joys of linux heh heh
[06:18] <Dr_willis> xterm and rxvt are the 'old-skool' classic terminal emulators.
[06:18] <K-Ryan> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailible)
[06:19] <Jucato> make sure Adept is close
[06:19] <Jucato> closed
[06:19] <K-Ryan> Right... Let's try again
[06:19] <K-Ryan> Working =)
[06:20] <K-Ryan> Now since I'm working off a Live CD and an external HDD, can I transport the build-essential to my external and it will still work?
[06:20] <Dr_willis> dare i even ask what program you are trying to install?
[06:20] <Dr_willis> K-Ryan,  ya really should of mentioned that earlier.......
[06:20] <Dr_willis> heh heh
[06:20] <K-Ryan> It's supposed to be some kind of "program DNA, then have yours compete with another"
[06:20] <K-Ryan> I linked it
[06:21] <Dr_willis> you wont be abel to install build-essential and stuff while using the live cd.
[06:21] <Dr_willis> at least i dont think so.
[06:21] <Jucato> you can
[06:21] <K-Ryan> Well the shell is showing positive results so far
[06:21] <Jucato>  but it will be gone when you reboot
[06:21] <K-Ryan> That's why I asked can I put it on my external and use it from there
[06:21] <Dr_willis> if his ram holds up.. :)
[06:22] <K-Ryan> I'm reluctant to format my 160gb hard drive until it is completely backed up
[06:22] <K-Ryan> Then I'm going to format and install either Ubuntu or Kubuntu
[06:22] <K-Ryan> I think I'm liking Kubuntu more though, what do you guys think?
[06:22] <Dr_willis> I normally install Kubuntu, then install Ubuntu-desktop so i have both :)
[06:22] <Dr_willis> and perhaps xubuntu-desktop
[06:22] <K-Ryan> Why all 3?
[06:23] <Dr_willis> also.. and then a dozen+ other window managers
[06:23] <Minataku> lol
[06:23] <Dr_willis> I use different apps from different ones
[06:23] <Dr_willis> i ONLY got 1.25 TB of drive space...
[06:23] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:23] <K-Ryan> Lend me some =(
[06:23] <K-Ryan> I hate it when people have that much space, not the person but out of jealousy
[06:23] <K-Ryan> My friend has like, 2TB
[06:23] <Dr_willis> I dont even have a drive thats smaller then 160 i think...
[06:24] <Dr_willis> i do have 7 Hd's in this box. :)
[06:24] <Minataku> lol
[06:24] <phobiac> Nothing to see here, move along.
[06:24] <K-Ryan> My 60GB crashed so I'm running Windows off an 8gb hdd
[06:24] <Minataku> I have little space... many computers, though <.<
[06:24] <K-Ryan> and have all my actual stuff on my 160
[06:24] <Dr_willis> whats scary - ya could almost replace all of them with 1 of the newer 1TB drives comming out..
[06:24] <Minataku> I need to count again but I'm around 11, I think
[06:25] <K-Ryan> However my 2TB friend bought me my 250gb external because he knows I have computer trouble
[06:25] <K-Ryan> I had so much trouble trying to figure out my HD was failing when it was
[06:25] <K-Ryan> I ended up reinstalling Windows 9623487256 times
[06:25] <K-Ryan> *9623487257
[06:25] <K-Ryan> I'm kidding =P
[06:26] <K-Ryan> So anyway, this build essential thing said "Setting up build-essential (11.1) ...
[06:26] <K-Ryan> In the shell, and nothing afterward
[06:26] <ZachPruckowski> ok, I broke something
[06:26] <ZachPruckowski> I tried to edit xorg.conf to add resolutions
[06:27] <ZachPruckowski> but it somehow set it higher than my monitor supports
[06:27] <Daisuke_Ido> K-Ryan: then it worked.
[06:27] <K-Ryan> Alright, now to try compiling...
[06:27] <ZachPruckowski> I tried using dpkg-reconfigure
[06:27] <makuseru> how can i add somthing to start on startup in kubuntu
[06:27] <canllaith> Hiya, I'm trying to set up guidance on dapper and I'm getting 'ImportError: No module named notify
[06:27] <canllaith> when I try to run the powermanager.
[06:27] <Jucato> !xconfig | ZachPruckowski
[06:27] <ubotu> ZachPruckowski: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". To configure only the driver and resolution, type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh".
[06:27] <canllaith> Does anyone know what package I'd need to install for that ?
[06:28] <ZachPruckowski> i tried those both
[06:28] <bonbonthejon> anyone know of a console based partition manager/viewer
[06:28] <canllaith> cfdisk is a bit nicer than fdisk for that bonbonthejon
[06:28] <Jucato> bonbonthejon: parted?
[06:29] <K-Ryan> Yeah well the compiling didn't work
[06:29] <K-Ryan> Because the "hi hello" thing isn't working now
[06:29] <bonbonthejon> anyone know anything about raids and mdadm
[06:29] <K-Ryan> Someone want to guide me through this and tell me what I did wrong?
[06:29] <makuseru> how can i add somthing to start on startup in kubuntu
[06:30] <Jucato> canllaith: knotify? O.o
[06:30] <Dr_willis> makuseru,  depends on what it is.. :)
[06:30] <fxr> where would i get the gpg signature for: deb http://media.blutkind.org/xgl edgy main
[06:30] <makuseru> Beryl
[06:30] <canllaith> Jucato: python module I would have thought
[06:30] <Jucato> canllaith: aah.. hm...
[06:30] <Dr_willis> K-Ryan, you really want to run seed7? heh heh... why... :)
[06:30] <canllaith> makuseru: Stick a symlink, .desktop file or shell script in ~/.kde/Autostart
[06:30] <K-Ryan> Because I want to run this DNA thingy
[06:30] <canllaith> make sure it's executable :)
[06:30] <K-Ryan> It's included if I'm not mistaken
[06:30] <K-Ryan> Here I'll show you exactly what this is supposed to be
[06:31] <Dr_willis> K-Ryan,  i cant get it to compile.
[06:31] <makuseru> how can i stop somthing from starting on startup
[06:31] <Dr_willis> scr_inf.c:52:18: error: term.h: No such file or directory
[06:31] <K-Ryan> I didn't get that
[06:31] <K-Ryan> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnafight is what this is supposed to be
[06:32] <makuseru> how can i stop somthing from starting on startup?
[06:33] <Dr_willis> !info ncurses
[06:33] <ubotu> Package ncurses does not exist in any distro I know
[06:33] <K-Ryan> Well I give up on this DNAfight thing, can anyone reccomend something to do?
[06:33] <K-Ryan> I'm bored and want to get away from Windows for a little while
[06:33] <phobiac> K-Ryan: World domination is always fun
[06:33] <makuseru> K-Ryan: Beryl
[06:34] <K-Ryan> Care to clarify?
[06:34] <Dr_willis> K-Ryan,  thers dozens of 'programing' fighting games out
[06:34] <phobiac> On the world domination?
[06:34] <Dr_willis> various bot-fighting games.
[06:34] <K-Ryan> I'm not looking for a programing game, just something to pass time with
[06:34] <Dr_willis> i cant get seed7 to even compule.
[06:34] <K-Ryan> That makes me feel better =)
[06:34] <Dr_willis> K-Ryan,  whats what that dnafight is.. from what i can tell
[06:34] <phobiac> Well it's simple really. A little oppresive government here, a little propoganda there.
[06:34] <K-Ryan> I know it is, I'll take anything right now
[06:34] <K-Ryan> Almost anything
[06:35] <K-Ryan> phobiac you were serious?
[06:35] <makuseru> go get beryl running then play around with it
[06:35] <manchicken> K-Ryan: You could always help out with testing the Kubuntu development version.
[06:35] <manchicken> K-Ryan: That'd be nice.
[06:35] <K-Ryan> Right now I'm just trying to enjoy Kubuntu
[06:35] <phobiac> K-Ryan: I'm always serious.
[06:35] <Dr_willis> go read some linux guides/docs :)
[06:35] <hubcio> hi folks...
[06:35] <fxr> where would i get the gpg signature for: deb http://media.blutkind.org/xgl edgy main
[06:35] <K-Ryan> Not fun =/
[06:35] <hubcio> I hope someone can help me out..\
[06:35] <hawk_> is there anyway to remote connected to a ntfs harddrive and copy files to linux or to kubuntu
[06:35] <manchicken> phobiac: If by "serious" you mean "not serious" then I agree completely.
[06:35] <K-Ryan> makuseru what is this Beryl you speak of?
[06:36] <ZachPruckowski> I'm getting a lot of errors while running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and "-phigh" won't even run
[06:36] <Dr_willis> K-Ryan,  you got your video card drivers working yet? if so theres dozens of 3d games ya can play.. Or just install frozenbubble
[06:36] <phobiac> hawk_: The harddrive on a windows machine?
[06:36] <Dr_willis> !info frozenbubble
[06:36] <K-Ryan> hawk_, ntfs is read only from Linux
[06:36] <ubotu> Package frozenbubble does not exist in any distro I know
[06:36] <manchicken> hawk_: Have you tried smb?
[06:36] <Dr_willis> !info frozen-bubble
[06:36] <ubotu> frozen-bubble: Pop out the bubbles !. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0.0-6ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 72 kB, installed size 356 kB
[06:36] <hubcio> I'm new to ubuntu.. and when I try to run a prog it tels me I don't have permission to run it.. how do I set root permissions for my login?
[06:36] <phobiac> Ooo, frozen bubble is good for passing the time.
[06:36] <Dr_willis> hubcio,  thats what the sudo command is for
[06:36] <makuseru> K-Ryan: have you no seen videos of the cube desktop?
[06:36] <K-Ryan> Dunno if my drivers are installed or what
[06:36] <Dr_willis> hubcio,  sudo whateverpgorram
[06:36] <K-Ryan> cube desktop?
[06:36] <hawk_> hubcio: yous sudo
[06:37] <hawk_> hubcio: use sudo
[06:37] <ZachPruckowski> is there some place I can copy a version of the conf file from?
[06:37] <hubcio> I know.. but if I want to make an icon on the desktop with a file that needs root. can I do it?
[06:37] <manchicken> All that xgl stuff is just so much rediculous eye-candy.
[06:37] <phobiac> K-Ryan: Check for xgl/beryl videos online.
[06:37] <Jucato> manchicken: :P
[06:37] <manchicken> (pretty pictures)--
[06:37] <K-Ryan> Can't link me?
[06:37] <manchicken> (real functionality)++
[06:37] <n8k99> K-Ryan, its preeeeeetty
[06:37] <hawk_> no i have not tride smb i do not know what that is
[06:38] <Dr_willis> ZachPruckowski,  huh... -phigh wont even run? you are not trying to run '-phih' as a command are ya?
[06:38] <ZachPruckowski> yarg.  Every time I try to change resolution, X crashes and I get logged out
[06:38] <ZachPruckowski> no
[06:38] <ZachPruckowski> it's likely because I'm in a VM
[06:38] <phobiac> hubcio: hubcio: Fo to the properties of the shortcut you want to give sudo to
[06:38] <Dr_willis> ZachPruckowski,  what vm? vmware?
[06:38] <phobiac> Then head to application
[06:38] <ZachPruckowski> paralells for Mac
[06:38] <phobiac> And add kdesu at the begining of the command box
[06:39] <K-Ryan> What's beryl going to do to my desktop?
[06:39] <phobiac> K-Ryan: Make it use up processor power and look cool.
[06:39] <hawk_> manchicken what if i set up a ftp server and just make that my shared ftp folder
[06:39] <n8k99> K-Ryan make it pretty, wobbly and spinning
[06:39] <phobiac> Really no other purpose.
[06:40] <K-Ryan> Okay, teach me how to get it
[06:40] <K-Ryan> =)
[06:40] <n8k99> !beryl
[06:40] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[06:40] <K-Ryan> Get it as in install
[06:40] <phobiac> K-Ryan: Your video card working?
[06:40] <K-Ryan> Don't know
[06:41] <manchicken> hawk_: That'd work.  Samba/smb is the native win drive sharing protocol though.
[06:41] <phobiac> What is it? ATI, Nvdia?
[06:41] <K-Ryan> I mean, if by work you mean "see your desktop" yes
[06:41] <K-Ryan> ATI Radeon 9800
[06:41] <manchicken> hawk_: Chances are setting up an FTP server is overengineering your problem.
[06:41] <phobiac> Okay first you need fglrx, hold on a second let me google the guide I used.
[06:41] <manchicken> K-Ryan: ATI drivers are unstable and unsupported.
[06:41] <hawk_> lol
[06:41] <K-Ryan> Oh that's not fair
[06:41] <phobiac> manchicken: I've set up beryl with an ATI
[06:42] <phobiac> Works fine too
[06:42] <K-Ryan> I sure hope so...
[06:42] <hawk_> manchicken: if i use samba then i can dowload all of my files to the linux system right? or is it still read olny
[06:42] <hubcio> phobiac : I want to run geargui from icon.. so from teminal I do sudo geargui.. for icon I went to properties and under command I did kdesu /usr/geargui/bin/geargui but still permission denied..
[06:43] <manchicken> phobiac: Just because it works sometimes doesn't make it not unstable and certainly doesn't make it supported ^_^
[06:43] <Dr_willis> ha ha.. got seed7 to compile... :)
[06:43] <phobiac> K-Ryan: You're running edgy?
[06:43] <phobiac> manchicken: Touche
[06:43] <K-Ryan> Umm, what's edgy?
[06:43] <manchicken> hawk_: Depending on permissions, Samba/smb is read-write.
[06:43] <phobiac> What kubuntu are you running?
[06:43] <flaccid> hmmm
[06:43] <flaccid> is Jucato here
[06:43] <manchicken> s/is/can be/
[06:43] <phobiac> Version wise
[06:43] <K-Ryan> 6.6 the long term support one
[06:43] <K-Ryan> err, 6.06
[06:43] <Jucato> flaccid: pong?
[06:44] <n8k99> That's Dapper
[06:44] <phobiac> hubcio: I dunno how to help you further. Sorry. Maybe you're typing the pass wrong?
[06:44] <flaccid> ping
[06:44] <flaccid> jucy man i'm going to freebsd br0
[06:44] <phobiac> K-Ryan: Alright gimmie a second
[06:44] <hawk_> manchicken: do i have to set it up on windows two or just on linux
[06:44] <Jucato> flaccid: :O
[06:44] <K-Ryan> Okey dokey, no rush or anything
[06:45] <K-Ryan> However, is this going to be worth it?
[06:45] <phobiac> Aha
[06:45] <ZachPruckowski> is there a "revert to default" command for my xorg.conf?
[06:45] <K-Ryan> Considering it probably won't work once I restart
[06:45] <manchicken> hawk_: Well the windows box would be the gate-keeper on that one.  You'd be using a windows smb share in konqueror (the SMB client).
[06:45] <phobiac> Sorry K-Ryan, Beryl isn't supported on dapper.
[06:45] <K-Ryan> What's dapper?
[06:45] <ZachPruckowski> 6.06
[06:45] <Jucato> flaccid: well, all I can say to you is have fun. you'll be missed :(
[06:45] <Jucato> !dapper | K-Ryan
[06:45] <ubotu> K-Ryan: dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[06:45] <manchicken> K-Ryan: Dapper is the version name for the version number 6.06
[06:45] <phobiac> I'm too used to using the wacky names they give the releases.
[06:45] <K-Ryan> Hrmm, alright then, any more suggestions?
[06:46] <K-Ryan> Time wasters, anyone?
[06:46] <K-Ryan> Fun time wasters mind you
[06:46] <flaccid> Jucato: i'll be here still.  kubuntu still on desktop at work.
[06:46] <phobiac> K-Ryan: Like galaga?
[06:46] <K-Ryan> Yeah
[06:46] <hubcio> phobiac : it actually says "kdesu" no such file or directory... is there a different command?
[06:46] <flaccid> i figured the killer app is kde and the problem is the operating system
[06:46] <n8k99> K-Ryan frozen bubble
[06:46] <hawk_> manchicken: of how do i set all of this up... or is there some site you can send me to that can tell me i know you time is needed by others
[06:47] <phobiac> hubcio: Try kdesu 'the directory here'
[06:47] <K-Ryan> what's frozen bubble?
[06:47] <manchicken> hawk_: I don't know windows... intentionally.
[06:47] <manchicken> ^_^
[06:47] <phobiac> You need those ' around the directory.
[06:47] <n8k99> a nice time waster
[06:47] <K-Ryan> A description would be nice, is it at least easy to install?
[06:47] <phobiac> K-Ryan: If you like galaga try XGalaga
[06:47] <hubcio> hubcio@ubuntu-desktop:~$ kdesu
[06:47] <hubcio> bash: kdesu: command not found
[06:47] <Jucato> !frozen-bubble | K-Ryan
[06:47] <ubotu> frozen-bubble: Pop out the bubbles !. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0.0-6ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 72 kB, installed size 356 kB
[06:47] <hawk_> manchicken: ok, then i will look it up... thank you for pointing me in the right direction
[06:47] <Jucato> hubcio: are you on kubuntu or ubuntu?
[06:47] <phobiac> K-Ryan: Frozen bubble is pretty easy to install if you use the package manager
[06:47] <manchicken> hawk_: Not a problem man.
[06:47] <hubcio> this is what i get from terminal so it doesn't see teh cmd even
[06:48] <hubcio> ubuntu
[06:48] <phobiac> Aha, that's the problem.
[06:48] <phobiac> gksudo is ubuntu
[06:48] <Jucato> hubcio: use gksudo
[06:48] <Jucato> :)
[06:48] <hubcio> sorry...
[06:48] <manchicken> hawk_: You can also try plugging in your favorite mass storage device (e.g. mp3 player, flash drive stick) and transferring it that way.
[06:48] <phobiac> Use gksudo instead of kdesu
[06:48] <phobiac> No, my fault for assuming you were running kubuntu
[06:48] <manchicken> kdesu is nice.
[06:48] <Dr_willis> phobiac,  heh - yea.. this is just #kubuntu :)
[06:49] <manchicken> Or you could just use sudo ^_^
[06:49] <hubcio> yea, yea.. sorry.. my mistake..
[06:49] <hubcio> phobiac.. that works.. thanks dude..
[06:49] <K-Ryan> which download should i download?
[06:49] <Jucato> manchicken: not if you're launching GUI apps :)
[06:49] <phobiac> Dr_willis: A lot of people running ubuntu pop into hear with konversation though, I've noticed.
[06:49] <K-Ryan> the sourcecode .zip or the jar file
[06:49] <hubcio> is tehre a way to eliminate the password box?
[06:49] <hubcio> I'd like to run as root all teh time.. is that possible?
[06:49] <manchicken> Jucato: That's what tilda is for.  `sudo guiapp &`
[06:50] <manchicken> ^_^
[06:50] <phobiac> hubcio: The whole point of the password is to give the program root powers
[06:50] <manchicken> Tilda is the coolest thing ever.
[06:50] <n8k99> K-Ryan use adept to install, its so much easier
[06:50] <manchicken> It should be standard build.
[06:50] <K-Ryan> Uhh?
[06:50] <K-Ryan> It's listed under games I'm guessing
[06:50] <Jucato> manchicken: does it resolve the problem with using sudo for GUI apps?
[06:50] <phobiac> K-Ryan: You're on kubuntu right? Or ubuntu?
[06:50] <manchicken> Jucato: What do you mean?  Which problem in particular/
[06:50] <ZachPruckowski> anyone have any ideas for me?
[06:50] <hubcio> so tehre is no way to by-pass al l that and just give root t all the progs taht wil be run?
[06:50] <manchicken> Jucato: You mean the xhost issue?
[06:50] <K-Ryan> Kubuntu, otherwise I shouldn't be in this channel =P
[06:50] <Jucato> yes
[06:51] <Jucato> !kdesu | manchicken
[06:51] <ubotu> manchicken: In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[06:51] <manchicken> How hard is it to stick xhost + into your .xinitrc?
[06:51] <phobiac> Then use adept
[06:51] <manchicken> Bah.
[06:51] <phobiac> Just filter out everything that isn't a game and look through what's left.
[06:51] <Dr_willis> manchicken,  echo 'xhost + ' >> .xinitrc
[06:51] <Jucato> manchicken: only if you know how, and if it's recommended
[06:51] <manchicken> ^_^
[06:51] <K-Ryan> What am I supposed to do in adept to download it?
[06:51] <K-Ryan> I do see it listed
[06:51] <n8k99> K-Ryan there is a search field in Adept that you can use to find specific packages or general fields of packages
[06:51] <Dr_willis> manchicken,  but that wont gain ya much i think the normal kdm login itnroes that file.
[06:51] <manchicken> Jucato: kdesu is the supported way to do things.  I will agree.
[06:51] <K-Ryan> Yes I put in "frozen" but to no avail
[06:52] <manchicken> But I still like just doing it the old fashioned way sometimes ^_^
[06:52] <phobiac> K-Ryan: Right click on the package and choose install
[06:52] <K-Ryan> Can't find the package
[06:52] <n8k99> give it a second to sort out everything that doesn't have frozen in it
[06:52] <hawk_> manchicken: well i will just set up an ftp on the windows system. it will not take to long with it being windows server 2003
[06:53] <Jucato> manchicken: but let's keep that to ourselves or in -devel, shall we? :D
[06:53] <manchicken> hawk_: That's cool.  Get away from that proprietary software man.  It'll kill ya ^_^
[06:53] <phobiac> K-Ryan: Are all your repositories enabled?
[06:53] <manchicken> Jucato: You and your "responsible support" and your "logic." ^_^
[06:53] <K-Ryan> <-- Linux noob
[06:53] <K-Ryan> No idea what you mean
[06:53] <hawk_> manchicken: that is what i am trying to do man
[06:53] <Jucato> manchicken: lol
[06:53] <manchicken> K-Ryan: You know how to use a computer?
[06:53] <K-Ryan> Yes...
[06:53] <manchicken> K-Ryan: Then you know how to use kubuntu ^_^
[06:53] <K-Ryan> Wrong
[06:53] <Jucato> manchicken: and by the time you become the main man for Adept, you'll also be forced to have "responsible support" and "logic" :P
[06:53] <K-Ryan> I know Windows
[06:53] <manchicken> My wife uses Kubuntu GNU.  Works fine.
[06:53] <manchicken> K-Ryan: It's all the same these days.
[06:53] <phobiac> K-Ryan: Alright, well adept manages packages. Packages are the individual programs. Your list of repositories, or repos, is where adept knows to get the packages from.
[06:54] <manchicken> K-Ryan: Trust me.  The programs are different, and the way you obtain software is different, but once you get past that, it's all the same.
[06:54] <K-Ryan> Yes, except I'm "not" past that
[06:54] <manchicken> K-Ryan: If my wife can use GNU, so can you.
[06:54] <manchicken> ^_^
[06:54] <K-Ryan> And I'm working on it
[06:54] <Dr_willis> everything is the same... except whats different...
[06:54] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:54] <manchicken> K-Ryan: And that's what we're here for ^_^
[06:54] <K-Ryan> Then what's with the mockery of your wife using it and not me?
[06:54] <manchicken> Dr_willis: SILENCE!  I'll have no logic here while I'm about.
[06:54] <K-Ryan> Please, I only wish to be helped
[06:55] <phobiac> K-Ryan: Okay, you want to enable the repo's?
[06:55] <n8k99> relax
[06:55] <manchicken> K-Ryan: I just said that anybody can use it ^_^
[06:55] <Dr_willis> even MY wife can use it...
[06:55] <K-Ryan> And I'm sure anyone can, but it takes time to get used to
[06:55] <manchicken> K-Ryan: Are you having any particular problem?
[06:55] <Dr_willis> 'walk befor you run'
[06:55] <n8k99> naturally
[06:55] <K-Ryan> I'm bored
[06:55] <manchicken> K-Ryan: Sure.
[06:55] <K-Ryan> And want to now run Frozen Bubble
[06:55] <Dr_willis> dont dive into the deep end untill you got your feet weet.
[06:55] <manchicken> K-Ryan: Have you checked out kde-look.org yet?
[06:56] <Dr_willis> actually isent frozen-bubble on the live cd allready?
[06:56] <K-Ryan> And that would be?
[06:56] <phobiac> If you enable your repo's you'll be able to get a lot of games.
[06:56] <manchicken> K-Ryan: Changing your themes is quite interesting.
[06:56] <makuseru> is there any way to cut an image in half in Gimp?
[06:56] <Dr_willis> makuseru,  scale/resize/crop
[06:56] <K-Ryan> How do I enable the repos?
[06:56] <manchicken> K-Ryan: kde-look.org is a site where we aggregate a bunch of themes, icon sets, color themes, wallpapers, window decorations, etc.
[06:56] <manchicken> K-Ryan: In KDE you can completely change how your desktop looks.
[06:56] <phobiac> K-Ryan: Easiest way involves the command line, open up a terminal.
[06:56] <K-Ryan> I don't want to make my Kubuntu look pretty, I like how it looks
[06:56] <K-Ryan> For now anyway
[06:56] <manchicken> K-Ryan: They have screenshots for those who lack inspiration, too.
[06:57] <makuseru> Dr_willis: im trying to cut a dual moniter wallpaper in half and save both halvs to use in bery
[06:57] <Jucato> !changethemes
[06:57] <ubotu> [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[06:57] <makuseru> how could i/>
[06:57] <K-Ryan> Terminal open
[06:57] <manchicken> K-Ryan: What *do* you want to do? ^_^
[06:57] <K-Ryan> Play Frozen Bubble
[06:57] <phobiac> Okay, now type sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:57] <manchicken> Beryl is nice.  I only wish it worked with free software.
[06:57] <Jucato> download "frozen-bubble" from the repositories (use Adept or apt-get)
[06:57] <phobiac> Wait, kdesu, not sudo
[06:57] <K-Ryan> Because I haven't been able to do anything, so I'm dead set on making this work
[06:57] <phobiac> Then hit enter and type in your password.
[06:57] <manchicken> Err, I suppose that's not fair to Beryl.
[06:57] <makuseru> manchicken: Beryl is free
[06:57] <manchicken> It's not Beryl's fault.
[06:57] <Dr_willis> makuseru,  cant just tell it to stretch the wallpaper eh? i dong use beryl..
[06:57] <Jucato> K-Ryan: you're on a live cd, a lot of stuff won't work as well without some modifications
[06:58] <makuseru> no
[06:58] <manchicken> It's ATI and nvidia's.  But that's a very long discussion that we've had many times.
[06:58] <manchicken> K-Ryan: Have you checked out lincity?  That's a fun game.  I dig it.
[06:58] <hawk_> manchicken: i think i figured out a way to do it make a smb share here and then connect from windows then take the files to this system
[06:58] <Jucato> yes, discussions that deserve to be in #kubuntu-offtopic
[06:58] <Jucato> :P
[06:58] <phobiac> K-Ryan: When kate pops up with the sources.list just tell me.
[06:58] <phobiac> It'll look a little like notepad.
[06:58] <makuseru> beryl isnt nvidia or ati
[06:58] <K-Ryan> Yeah, a lot of lines saying restricted
[06:58] <K-Ryan> at the end anyway
[06:59] <manchicken> Jucato: Naw, I'm tired of crediting fascists by discussing the problems they've caused for a little while.  I'd much rather answer some good questions ^_^
[06:59] <phobiac> Okay, see all the lines that say deb at the begining and have a # in front?
[06:59] <Jucato> manchicken: I think K-Ryan is on a live cd, which means he needs to really add some repositories (like universe)
[06:59] <K-Ryan> Yeah, 2 lines
[06:59] <phobiac> Get rid of the # in front on them all. Only the deb.
[06:59] <phobiac> There should be more in the file.
[06:59] <manchicken> Did he install?
[06:59] <K-Ryan> I can't install yet
[06:59] <manchicken> Why not?
[06:59] <Jucato> there's your answer :)
[06:59] <K-Ryan> I don't want to format my hd yet
[06:59] <K-Ryan> I have precious data
[06:59] <manchicken> Ah.
[07:00] <K-Ryan> Not really precious... But I don't feel like redownloading all my stuff
[07:00] <manchicken> Data which you backup frequently though, right? ;)
[07:00] <manchicken> What stuff?
[07:00] <phobiac> K-Ryan: After you've uncommented those lines just save the file and close kate. Then start adept again and look for the games. It should work.
[07:00] <manchicken> Like music and such?
[07:00] <K-Ryan> Music, games
[07:00] <manchicken> Fun.
[07:00] <K-Ryan> about 80gb worth
[07:00] <manchicken> Cool.  Sharing is good ^_^
[07:00] <K-Ryan> transfering to my external little by little
[07:00] <K-Ryan> just left is my music
[07:01] <charlie5> hi all ... does anyone use audacity, and has seen an error on startup like this ... "there was an error initializing the audio i/o layer" ?
[07:01] <n8k99> charlie5 yeah ive seen it
[07:01] <phobiac> K-Ryan: You don't have to format over it unless you want kubuntu on a drive all to itself.
[07:01] <K-Ryan> I can't repartition the drive either
[07:01] <K-Ryan> Gives some kind of error
[07:01] <charlie5> n8k99: any idea how to fix it ?
[07:01] <n8k99> charlie5 do you have sound notifications turned on?
[07:01] <phobiac> Oh, that's an issue.
[07:01] <K-Ryan> Yep
[07:01] <manchicken> katapult is getting easier and easier to remember to use.
[07:01] <manchicken> It's nice.
[07:01] <charlie5> n8k99: thanks, i'll just check
[07:01] <manchicken> I've never really used katapult too much before.
[07:01] <Jucato> manchicken: you should have been there to try to explain to seele how to use it
[07:02] <phobiac> manchicken: I discovered katapult a week ago and love it.
[07:02] <n8k99> charlie5 you know like when a window closes or opens there is a sound
[07:02] <Jucato> try explaining how to use katapult, in documentation/user guide style... :P
[07:02] <phobiac> I try to avoid using the mouse as much as I can.
[07:02] <n8k99> or when you send a message over IRC?
[07:02] <phobiac> alt+space then type the name of the program you want, and hit enter
[07:02] <phobiac> Usually you only need the first few letters.
[07:03] <phobiac> It works for files too I believe
[07:03] <manchicken> Jucato: It's one of those things that you never really learn until you sit down and look for new things.
[07:03] <K-Ryan> I'm not sure the repo thing is working
[07:03] <phobiac> K-Ryan: Having any more luck with adept and finding the games?
[07:03] <manchicken> Jucato: If you have any more neat things that you think I might not know about, let me know ^_^
[07:03] <K-Ryan> Still no Frozen Bubble in adept
[07:03] <Jucato> manchicken: which isn't a good usability thing, which is what seele is concerned about :)
[07:03] <manchicken> Jucato: It's not like I'm going to be able to get any hacking done or anything.
[07:03] <phobiac> There were only two lines there commented out?
[07:03] <Jucato> manchicken: adept still giving you headaches?
[07:04] <charlie5> n8k99: :) ... then yes, i have them turned on
[07:04] <K-Ryan> Let me pop it back up to give you a rough idea what it looked liek
[07:04] <manchicken> Jucato: When isn't it?
[07:04] <phobiac> K-Ryan: Copy into pastebin
[07:04] <Jucato> manchicken: in its creator's midn :P
[07:04] <phobiac> !pastbin
[07:04] <K-Ryan> pastebin, link me
[07:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:04] <phobiac> Whoops
[07:04] <manchicken> Jucato: You know what though?  Neat little features like that are good.  They may not enhance usability, but I really don't think they hurt it either.
[07:04] <phobiac> !pastebin
[07:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:04] <charlie5> n8k99: do i need to switch them off to prevent some sort of conflict ?
[07:05] <n8k99> charlie5: the sound notifications interfere with Audcatiy's control over arts
[07:05] <Jucato> manchicken: seele was actually more concerned about the lack of clear instructions on how to use it, and enough visual feedback. she has nothing against the features
[07:05] <manchicken> Jucato: Ah.  That makes sense.
[07:05] <K-Ryan> phobiac, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1404/
[07:05] <charlie5> n8k99: ah thank you, that explains it ... i turn them off in 'system settings/notifications' i guess
[07:05] <n8k99> charlie5: I have just acknowledged them and then waited a moment
[07:05] <Jucato> anyway, gotta go now...
[07:06] <phobiac> K-Ryan: That's the whole file?
[07:06] <K-Ryan> Yeah
[07:06] <phobiac> Hmm, alright give me a second.
[07:06] <n8k99> charlie5: if you set sound system to surrender control at the earliest then you can keep them on
[07:06] <K-Ryan> Can you send me the right copy over pastebin, then I'll copy it in and hopefully it will work?
[07:07] <n8k99> charlie5: but I do turn them off when recording over microphone ;-)
[07:07] <freshburn> in which directory could i find packages/updates downloaded by adept (kubntu edgy) so i can make a localhost repo for my 3 pcs?
[07:07] <manchicken> WOW!  I just found a REALLY bad usability issue with k9copy
[07:07] <phobiac> What in the hell?
[07:07] <phobiac> I can't open kate with the command line.
[07:07] <Jucato> (manchicken: did you know that Adept is full of those kinds of issues? :P )
[07:07] <charlie5> n8k99: recording from a mike is what i'm trying to do ... thanks very much for the help :)
[07:08] <phobiac> I can't open Kate at all.
[07:08] <manchicken> Jucato: If I could get t to build from bzr, I'd be hacking it right now ^_^
[07:08] <Jucato> anyway gotta go.. need to get some work to do...
[07:08] <phobiac> Has anyone ever seen this before?
[07:08] <phobiac> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[07:08] <phobiac> Xlib: Maximum number of clients reached
[07:08] <phobiac> kdesu: cannot connect to X server :0
[07:08] <Jucato> manchicken: in the mean time, why not try working on it not from bzr, so that by the time you could get it working from bzr, you could just add the changes? (if that's how it works...)
[07:08] <n8k99> charlie5:do you have a usb mic?
[07:08] <phobiac> K-Ryan: If I can fix this I'll send you my sources.list to use.
[07:08] <K-Ryan> Let me disconnect, maybe that will help
[07:08] <freshburn> phobiac try "kdesu kate"
[07:09] <phobiac> freshburn: That's what returns that error
[07:09] <KDEKecit> anyone succeed using Kubuntu clone from image?
[07:09] <manchicken> Jucato: What I'm going to be doing will require a bit of trial-and-error.
[07:09] <K-Ryan> There, try now
[07:09] <freshburn> i think
[07:09] <freshburn> dut dont do what i do im newb
[07:09] <Jucato> phobiac: are you logged in as root?
[07:09] <K-Ryan> brb
[07:09] <phobiac> Jucato: No
[07:09] <charlie5> n8k99: not yet ... i wish i did ... i bought a cheap ($10) mike today and am trying it through the soundcard, just to get an idea of things
[07:09] <Jucato> phobiac: in Konsole?
[07:09] <freshburn> dut=but, evidently i havent been typalseing long either
[07:09] <phobiac> No, I was doing a kdesu on a fresh console.
[07:09] <Jucato> hm.. strange...
[07:09] <n8k99> charlie5:ok then your input should be default
[07:09] <Jucato> bah.. need to go
[07:10] <phobiac> Using katapult to open it I get the error that kdeinit can't open it.
[07:10] <freshburn> oh
[07:10] <freshburn> is there a directory tha contains the d/ls of adept?
[07:10] <phobiac> Something tells me this leads to me rebooting to fix the problem.
[07:11] <intelikey> freshburn /var/cache/apt/archives/
[07:11] <ZachPruckowski> crap, now I'm at a BASH prompt
[07:11] <ZachPruckowski> how do I reload the GUI?
[07:11] <manchicken> ZachPruckowski: What problem are you having?
[07:11] <phobiac> Anyone know how I can fix this without trying to reboot? :/
[07:11] <KDEKecit> hallo everyone, can anybody telme where to find how to clone kubuntu to many PC
[07:11] <intelikey> ZachPruckowski startx
[07:11] <ZachPruckowski> ah
[07:11] <manchicken> Jucato: You use any DVD rip proggies?
[07:11] <n8k99> phobiac what is it?
[07:12] <K-Ryan> back
[07:12] <intelikey> ZachPruckowski or sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[07:12] <phobiac> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[07:12] <phobiac> Xlib: Maximum number of clients reached
[07:12] <phobiac> kdesu: cannot connect to X server :0
[07:12] <phobiac> That ^
[07:12] <phobiac> When I kdesu kate
[07:12] <freshburn> intelikey ty veru much
[07:12] <ZachPruckowski> how long should it be black after I type startx?
[07:12] <manchicken> phobiac: Find out some clients you have open, and kill them
[07:12] <intelikey> ZachPruckowski 5 seconds
[07:12] <ZachPruckowski> darn
[07:13] <phobiac> manchicken: How would I go about doing that?
[07:13] <n8k99> phobiac cntrl+esc
[07:13] <intelikey> freshburn yw
[07:13] <ZachPruckowski> maybe halt the VM?
[07:14] <phobiac> ctrl+escape does nothing
[07:14] <freshburn> cya all, i promise to come back tomorrow with more questions i could easily google fo rthe answer but then i would have NO contact with any humans in my life :)
[07:14] <charlie5> n8k99: can i turn off all notifications in a single fo, or do i have to go through each of them idividually ?
[07:14] <manchicken> phobiac: Do a `ps aux | less`, find users other than you who have X applications open.
[07:14] <ZachPruckowski> "screens ound, but none have a usable configuration
[07:14] <charlie5> <fo => go>
[07:14] <manchicken> phobiac: Then `kill -9 PID`
[07:14] <ZachPruckowski> how do I fix that?
[07:15] <n8k99> charlie5: you should be able to turn them all off in System Settings > Notifications
[07:15] <intelikey> freshburn if that's true, put a brick through the monitor and trash the box; then go outside and live.
[07:15] <phobiac> manchicken: The ps aux thing just printed a bunch of text I don't understand.
[07:15] <Dr_willis> take up golf
[07:16] <charlie5> n8k99: good lord, i'm going blind ... i saw the one turn turn them all on, and didn;t see the 'turn off' just below ... :/ ... thanks
[07:16] <ZachPruckowski> tried the "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart", now I'm back to a black window
[07:16] <freshburn> my wife would kill me if i broke hergnome games machine, god forbid she play the modded xbox instead
[07:16] <n8k99> heh!
[07:16] <manchicken> phobiac: K Menu->System->KSysGuard
[07:16] <manchicken> phobiac: Then look at the process table.
[07:17] <phobiac> manchicken: Can't open anything
[07:17] <Dr_willis> play games with the wife...
[07:17] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:17] <freshburn> l8tr all
[07:17] <phobiac> I'll just restart, I think this has happened before.
[07:17] <ZachPruckowski> yarrgh!!! this is evil
[07:17] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  or a VERY VERY patient woman..
[07:17] <phobiac> Be back in a minute or two.
[07:17] <ZachPruckowski> someone help
[07:17] <manchicken> I play games with my wiffy all the time ^_^
[07:17] <ZachPruckowski> I need to get xorg.conf working from a BASH prompt now
[07:18] <Dr_willis> reconfiguing X can be a pain.
[07:18] <ZachPruckowski> "no screens found"
 cya all, i promise to come back tomorrow...would have NO contact with any humans in my life    ^^
[07:18] <Dr_willis> I often cheat and use a existing xorg.conf from a live cd that works.
[07:18] <ZachPruckowski> ok, how do I do that?
[07:18] <charlie5> n8k99: ugh ... same error ... i'll try a quick reboot and see if that helps
[07:18] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  she has a restraining order? :)
[07:18] <manchicken> w00t!  Ripping DVDs works.
[07:18] <Dr_willis> ZachPruckowski,  get live cd... boot it.. copy xorg.conf over
[07:18] <intelikey> lol
[07:18] <ZachPruckowski> hmm
[07:19] <Dr_willis> a kubuntu live cd would be best.
[07:19] <manchicken> Now I can watch my DVDs without having to carry them on me.
[07:19] <ZachPruckowski> but I have no window manager here to copy it over to
[07:19] <manchicken> I like that.
[07:19] <ZachPruckowski> if it's in the "drive
[07:19] <ZachPruckowski> "drive" now, can I do that from the BASH prompt?
[07:19] <Dr_willis> ZachPruckowski,  BOOT the live cd... copy the working xorg.conf it generates over to the installed system
[07:19] <n8k99> charlie5: what is your sound settings for auto-suspend\?
[07:19] <Dr_willis> the live cd's make xorg.conf files on the fly as it were..
[07:20] <Dr_willis> they are good example/starting points.
[07:20] <K-Ryan> Sorry, Computer froze...
[07:20] <K-Ryan> Was trying to unzip something or "untar" it I guess
[07:20] <K-Ryan> And open adept all off the cd
[07:21] <Dr_willis> good answer
[07:21] <intelikey> dpkg-recon... makes backup xorg.confs
[07:22] <ZachPruckowski> I've tried that many, many times
[07:22] <intelikey> yeah some people get their jollies in the strangest ways n8k99
[07:22] <K-Ryan> What was the command to open the universe repository?
[07:23] <n8k99> did I actually tye that?
[07:23] <charlie5> n8k99: :D ... worked after the reboot ... cheers !
[07:23] <n8k99> charlie5 fantastic!
[07:23] <K-Ryan> Anyone? Kdesu Kate something
[07:23] <K-Ryan> Enabling the universe repository?
[07:24] <n8k99> K-Ryan kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:24] <K-Ryan> Thanks
[07:24] <n8k99> np
[07:25] <n8k99> charlie5 I'd be intertested in hearing your results
[07:25] <K-Ryan> Not sure if I can enable that off the live cd
[07:25] <phobiac> K-Ryan: Okay, give me a minute and I'll give you my sources.list
[07:25] <intelikey> K-Ryan command ????     sed 's/main .*/main restricted universe multiverse/g' /etc/apt/sources.list | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list       ?
[07:26] <K-Ryan> Sorry intelikey I have no idea what you just said.
[07:26] <n8k99> /giggles off the chair
[07:26] <charlie5> n8k99: no worries ... i'll keep you informed :) ... i think i just recorded a little voice via the mike, but its inaudible (a very small squiggle in the graph) ... think i need to play with mixer settings some
[07:26] <ZachPruckowski> ok, I did cp xorg.conf.1 xorg.conf
[07:27] <ZachPruckowski> let's see if it works
[07:27] <intelikey> who's hearing little voices ???   what ?
[07:27] <intelikey> oh never mind.
[07:27] <n8k99> charlie5: you can enhance thatwith theeffects- amplify
[07:28] <n8k99> /megiggling wokethebaby
[07:28] <K-Ryan> charlie, record it under a different frequency from something else
[07:28] <phobiac> Oh wait
[07:28] <K-Ryan> overlay the two, and you've got yourself a secret message =P
[07:29] <phobiac> K-Ryan: I can't give you my sources.list, I'm running edgy.
[07:29] <K-Ryan> It's alright
[07:29] <phobiac> Although if I just change it..wait I might be able to.
[07:29] <manchicken> phobiac: Why can't you give sources.list?
[07:29] <K-Ryan> Don't worry about it
[07:29] <phobiac> He's on dapper
[07:29] <intelikey> K-Ryan what flavour sources.list you want ?
[07:29] <phobiac> I can just change the edgy to dapper though in the file right?
[07:29] <K-Ryan> I was looking for something to pass time with
[07:29] <K-Ryan> Preferably something fun
[07:29] <manchicken> Yeah.
[07:30] <manchicken> You can.
[07:30] <K-Ryan> At the moment I'm stuck with ohing and ahing over my desktop
[07:30] <phobiac> Intelikey: He just needs the basic sources.list for dapper, so he can get some games and stuff.
[07:30] <manchicken> ^_^
[07:30] <n8k99> phobiac yes, kate lets you substitue
[07:30] <intelikey> kapper ok.
[07:30] <manchicken> K-Ryan: Why don't you back your stuff up and go on a super-cool installing spree? ^_^
[07:30] <phobiac> n8K99: My question was more on if that would work for the sources.list
[07:30] <K-Ryan> I'm too lazy to setup my 10gb music back up riht now
[07:30] <K-Ryan> Perhaps tomorrow
[07:31] <K-Ryan> *right
[07:31] <ZachPruckowski> I restarted but put in the live DVD
[07:31] <ZachPruckowski> it appears to have started up normally
[07:31] <n8k99> yes it would phobiac
[07:31] <hawk_> manchicken: hey man i got it to work with samba
[07:31] <manchicken> K-Ryan: It'd be fun ^_^
[07:31] <ZachPruckowski> how do I know if all is good or not?
[07:31] <K-Ryan> For tomorrow, not at 1:30 in the morning
[07:31] <manchicken> hawk_: Cool!  So now you're going to come join us freedom-loving hippies? ^_^
[07:31] <hawk_> manchicken: all i needed to do was mount it
[07:32] <intelikey> K-Ryan check your other tabs.
[07:32] <hawk_> manchicken: Yes yes.
[07:32] <K-Ryan> My other tabs?
[07:32] <manchicken> hawk_: Who knew freedom could be so delicious? ;)
[07:33] <K-Ryan> OH!
[07:33] <phobiac> K-ryan: This *should* work
[07:33] <phobiac> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1406/
[07:33] <phobiac> Probably better to use intelikey's
[07:34] <intelikey> there you go.
[07:34] <ZachPruckowski> yay!  I think it's fixed!
[07:34] <n8k99> hooray!
[07:34] <hawk_> manchicken: well as long as i am doing apps and stuff linux can match or even out do windows but whhen it comes to games i have to go to windows
[07:34] <K-Ryan> intelikey is it working?
[07:34] <K-Ryan> I accepted but I don't think it's working
[07:34] <manchicken> hawk_: I bought an appliance machine (Wii) for that.
[07:34] <intelikey> #1   SEND   K-Ryan      -=*=-.  100.0%     00:000.02446 sources.list
[07:35] <hawk_> lol, so your the persion that go my wii
[07:35] <K-Ryan> It just says "receiving"
[07:35] <crazy_bus> I've got 60mp3s which I wan't to burn on a CD to be able to play on a mp3 cd player.  Does anyone know of a bulk renaming tool to rename them to play in the order I want?
[07:35] <hawk_> manchicken: so your the one that go my WIii
[07:35] <manchicken> hawk_: What?
[07:35] <K-Ryan> im going to try phobiac's
[07:36] <phobiac> Crazy_bus: Why not just burn them in the order you want?
[07:36] <intelikey> K-Ryan router on your end   or connected through a firewall ?       looks like something on your end blocking you.
[07:36] <hawk_> manchicken: you cant find Wii's anywhere in the USA
[07:36] <K-Ryan> Probably my router
[07:36] <intelikey> yeah
[07:36] <crazy_bus> I going to burn a data CD with mp3s on it.  Can you specify the order on a data cd?
[07:36] <manchicken> hawk_: I got mine a while back.  Three days before it released.
[07:36] <K-Ryan> now to see if it worked
[07:37] <manchicken> hawk_: It's nice.
[07:37] <hawk_> manchicken: what how did you do that
[07:37] <K-Ryan> Yeah umm, phobiac that ruined my adept
[07:37] <intelikey> oh well.   we tried.    {-:- DCC Auto-closing idle dcc SEND to K-Ryan} ...
[07:37] <K-Ryan> =/
[07:37] <ZachPruckowski> k, going to bed now
[07:37] <manchicken> hawk_: Gotta know where to shop m8.
[07:37] <ZachPruckowski> thanks guys
[07:37] <K-Ryan> Not a big deal considering it's only a temporary thing
[07:38] <ZachPruckowski> what
[07:38] <K-Ryan> So where could I get that XGalaga, I mean I can't screw that up can I?
[07:38] <ZachPruckowski> what's temporary about it?
[07:38] <ZachPruckowski> it works without the LiveCD in now
[07:38] <K-Ryan> No, my Adept won't work since I modified something
[07:38] <hawk_> manchicken: do you have bluetooth on your computer or laptop
[07:38] <ZachPruckowski> yikes, that's worse than what I had
[07:38] <K-Ryan> Once I reboot it's fixed though
[07:39] <intelikey> bad data in /etc/apt/sources.list will break apt  but doesn't cause any serious dammage;  unless you install packages from somewhere that are not compatable with your version of ubuntu
[07:39] <K-Ryan> intelikey it's not a big deal
[07:39] <manchicken> hawk_: Naw.  If I did I'd be researching how to turn my wiimote into a pointer device right now ^_^
[07:39] <intelikey> that is to say you can always fix the file and apt is fixed.
[07:39] <K-Ryan> yes yes of course
[07:39] <charlie5> n8k99: turns out i wasn't recording after all (just a little noise from the s/card i guess ... i had to switch the input source to 'mike' :)
[07:39] <hawk_> manchicken: lol that is what i was going to tell you
[07:39] <K-Ryan> but im not concerned over it
[07:40] <n8k99> charlie:a ha!
[07:40] <K-Ryan> phobiac, where was that XGalaga thing?
[07:40] <charlie5> n8k99: now, its recording ok, but i need to play with levels and such a bit i think
[07:40] <phobiac> Well, this isn't fun. First I can't open programs then I lost the use of my keyboard.
[07:40] <n8k99> natch
[07:40] <phobiac> Anyway
[07:40] <phobiac> K-Ryan: If the repo's updated you should be able to find it.
[07:40] <charlie5> n8k99: btw, can you recommend a good usb mike ?
[07:40] <K-Ryan> Adept doesn't work now
[07:40] <phobiac> Unless it's edgy and up only.
[07:40] <K-Ryan> So it isn't really updated per se
[07:41] <hawk_> manchicken: do you know of anygood stradigy games for linux
[07:41] <phobiac> K-Ryan: In the command line do sudo apt-get update
[07:41] <K-Ryan> E: Type 'universe' is not known on line 35 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:41] <n8k99> charlie5 my wife got me the logitech usb mike - its nice
[07:41] <manchicken> hawk_: Have you ever been to happypenguin?
[07:42] <phobiac> Go into the file and just remove the word universe on line 35.
[07:42] <charlie5> n8k99: thanks, i'll check them out
[07:42] <manchicken> Just make sure you install all from-source packages in /usr/local^_^
[07:42] <K-Ryan> Where's the file =/
[07:42] <n8k99> charlie5: I think it was like 30 $US
[07:42] <phobiac> do kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:42] <hawk_> manchicken: no i dont think i have
[07:42] <K-Ryan> that will still work?
[07:42] <K-Ryan> Yeah, that was a dumb question..
[07:42] <intelikey> K-Ryan i'll pastebin what you couldn't accept over dcc
[07:42] <manchicken> hawk_: Happypenguin.org is a great place to learn about games.
[07:43] <K-Ryan> Thanks intelikey
[07:43] <phobiac> The file doesn't move around as it pleases :P
[07:43] <intelikey>  http://pastebin.ca/314982
[07:43] <K-Ryan> This channel is so much better than the Ubuntu channel I checked when installing Ubuntu on my friend's computer
[07:43] <K-Ryan> Help wise
[07:43] <hawk_> manchicken: how do i unmount things the unmount command is coming up invalid
[07:43] <manchicken> umount
[07:43] <manchicken> no n
[07:43] <hawk_> ok
[07:44] <K-Ryan> Adept is broken again
[07:44] <intelikey> if you use that be sure you copy and paste the content   not save as text   cause the pastebin site will add M$ markup to it     (wrong line ends)
[07:44] <manchicken> K-Ryan: How so?
[07:44] <phobiac> K-Ryan: Use the pastebin intelikey just put up
[07:44] <K-Ryan> I did
[07:44] <K-Ryan> Let me try again
[07:45] <phobiac> Make sure to uncomment those lines though.
[07:45] <ZachPruckowski> g'nite guys
[07:45] <ZachPruckowski> good luck with adept
[07:45] <hawk_> manchicken: have you seen the artical about the hacker/moders how got linux to work on the WII
[07:45] <phobiac> There's four at the end commented out.
[07:45] <intelikey> phobiac uncomment which ?
[07:45] <K-Ryan> they seem to all be uncommented
[07:45] <intelikey> yes.  those are optional  not  nesseccary
[07:46] <K-Ryan> but above most of the deb lines is a `
[07:46] <K-Ryan> where there would just be a blank line
[07:46] <phobiac> I figured they might contain these games we're looking for, so why not uncomment them.
[07:46] <phobiac> K-Ryan: I think Kate makes those sometimes, I've seen it before. I don't remember why.
[07:47] <intelikey> K-Ryan try the raw page.  http://pastebin.ca/raw/314982
[07:47] <K-Ryan> Gah, still not working
[07:47] <charlie5> n8k99: :) ... its working great now ... theres a bit of background noise (a steady hiss) from the s/card maybe ... but it isn;t picking up outside traffic, which is great
[07:47] <phobiac> Did you do a sudo apt-get update?
[07:47] <manchicken> hawk_: Naw.  I think it's great that they got linux kernels working on it, but I think a slimmer kernel would be more appropriate for that application.
[07:47] <K-Ryan> That will probably do it intelikey
[07:47] <n8k99> charlie5: you may be getting fan noise as well
[07:48] <intelikey> don't forget to update the database when you change the sources.list
[07:48] <hawk_> manchicken: true, well thank you for all your help... see you around
[07:48] <charlie5> n8k99: i'm hoping there are tools that help get rid of the hiss ... (this is new territory for charlie ;)
[07:48] <K-Ryan> Still broken
[07:48] <intelikey> don't forget to update the database when you change the sources.list
[07:48] <K-Ryan> Hmm?
[07:48] <n8k99> charlie5: Effects > Noise Reduction
[07:48] <charlie5> n8k99: a usb mike shouldn;t pick up fan noise ... is that right ?
[07:48] <manchicken> np
[07:49] <n8k99> charlie5: just don't go crazy or you'll sound like a piece of tinfoil
[07:49] <K-Ryan> i ran the sudo apt-get update thing
[07:49] <K-Ryan> E: Type 'restricted' is not known on line 15 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:49] <phobiac> The sudo apt-get update
[07:49] <n8k99> yes it will, a mic is a mike no matter where you plug it in
[07:49] <charlie5> n8k99: lol ... i already sound like a piece of tinfoil ;)
[07:50] <n8k99> heh
[07:50] <charlie5> n8k99: ah, i see ... i was only guessing about the fan noise
[07:50] <intelikey> line 15 ?    in  a 12  line file ?
[07:50] <K-Ryan> Iunno
[07:50] <K-Ryan> Checking the file...
[07:50] <Cagarro> lindvd comes with mandriva, is it possible to get it from ubuntu reps ?
[07:51] <n8k99> charlie5:microphones generally are much more sensitie than the human ear, or at least than the distracted brain thinks the ear is
[07:51] <K-Ryan> Yeah, still that restricted error
[07:53] <jambo76> huomenta kaikille
[07:53] <n8k99> time to rest, good night all
[07:54] <intelikey> you are not saving the file correctly or something.   line 15   if you copied and pasted that raw text would be commented out    15:#deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports   also  dpkg should only be counting lines with text.....  i think.
[07:54] <K-Ryan> dont know, i'll count them
[07:54] <K-Ryan> yeah I only have 12 deb lines
[07:55] <K-Ryan> well 11 deb lines, the top one is a # /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:55] <intelikey> 12 ?    should be 6
[07:55] <K-Ryan> 6 are enabled or uncommented
[07:55] <K-Ryan> Whatever it's called
[07:55] <K-Ryan> When I select the bottom line though
[07:56] <K-Ryan> Kate labels it as 19
[07:56] <intelikey> ooops i was wrong about that numbering sceema  dpkg does count blank lines...
[07:56] <K-Ryan> Oh, I see a problem
[07:56] <K-Ryan> I fixed my adept
[07:56] <K-Ryan> Woohoo!
[07:57] <K-Ryan> Still no Frozen Bubble in the Adept though >.>
[07:58] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main universe multiverse
[07:58] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main universe multiverse
[07:58] <intelikey> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main universe multiverse
[07:58] <intelikey> that's the full content of mine...
[07:58] <K-Ryan> oh i know what i didnt do
[07:58] <K-Ryan> =)
[07:59] <phobiac> I'm off for the night. Goodnight guys, and any gals.
[07:59] <K-Ryan> Cya
[07:59] <K-Ryan> intelikey, I updated the database but still not frozen bubble
[07:59] <K-Ryan> should I uncomment the other lines?
[07:59] <intelikey> !info frozen-bubble dapper
[07:59] <ubotu> frozen-bubble: Pop out the bubbles !. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0.0-6ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 72 kB, installed size 356 kB
[08:00] <K-Ryan> I uncommented some lines, trying again
[08:01] <cpk1> !repository
[08:01] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:01] <K-Ryan> Yeah this just isn't cooperating for me
[08:01] <K-Ryan> *with me
[08:01] <cpk1> read the repository link then
[08:02] <K-Ryan> I'm okay for now
[08:03] <K-Ryan> I'll figure something out for time wasting
[08:04] <cpk1> K-Ryan: what is your problem exactly?
[08:05] <K-Ryan> There is no exact problem
[08:05] <K-Ryan> I'm looking to waste a few minutes before going to bed
[08:05] <K-Ryan> By waste I mean play a game, not what I'm doing now
[08:06] <K-Ryan> So I'm going back to trying to download Cube 2
[08:06] <cpk1> if its in universe all you need to do is enable universe
[08:07] <K-Ryan> Can't
[08:07] <K-Ryan> And it isn't
 And it isn't   <<<>>><ubotu> frozen-bubble: Pop out the bubbles !. In component universe, is extra.
[08:07] <K-Ryan> I'm giving up on that
[08:08] <K-Ryan> Until I install Kubuntu anyway
[08:08] <K-Ryan> Just going to try installing this
[08:08] <K-Ryan> If it works I'll play for a few min and see how it compares to the Windows version
[08:08] <K-Ryan> Otherwise I'm off to bed
[08:09] <cpk1> what are you on right now K-Ryan?
[08:09] <K-Ryan> Kubuntu
[08:09] <K-Ryan> Dapper
[08:10] <cpk1> are you on the live cd?
[08:12] <intelikey> i'm reposting the start of this for the sake of... well anyway!  <K-Ryan> What was the command to open the universe repository?  <intelikey> K-Ryan command ????     sed 's/main .*/main restricted universe multiverse/g' /etc/apt/sources.list | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:13] <cpk1> can you install stuff when you are running off the livecd?
[08:13] <intelikey> yes
[08:13] <cpk1> i've never tried/needed/wanted to
[08:14] <intelikey> you can over load the ram that way tho
[08:14] <cpk1> k thats what i thought
[08:14] <stdin> intelikey: I'm making an interactive script to make it easier for, lets say "less advanced" users, to enable *verse. what you think ? http://www.pastebin.ca/314236
[08:15] <intelikey> stdin hehhe i think the line i posted ^  but i'll look at yours.
[08:15] <cpk1> stdin: have you looked at the repo link from ubotu though? the gui is very straight forward and easy =\
[08:15] <stdin> intelikey: like I said "interactive" :)
[08:15] <intelikey> lol
[08:15] <stdin> cpk1: the script just asks a few yes/no questions
[08:16] <stdin> ant it's only 1st draft, I could make it GUI too
[08:16] <stdin> s/ant/and/
[08:17] <cpk1> i'm not saying that yours not being a gui is bad, but one would think the current method doesnt really need improvement =P
[08:19] <stdin> cpk1: I have had, on more than 1 occasion, sent people to the link to enable a repo, and have them come back to say "I don't understand", not that the guide isn't easy, just that some people want a "quick fix" for it
[08:19] <intelikey> stdin first rattel out of the box  EOF echo -n "Enter your county code to use for and apt mirror. eg: gb or fr : "  EOF  they are going to say   huh ?  </mouth expressions>
[08:20] <stdin> intelikey: if they don't it defaults to the main one, but like I said, it's a 1st draft :)
[08:22] <binks> stdin i think anything that makes lie easier is a great idea go for it
[08:22] <binks> *life
[08:23] <stdin> I've tested the script a bit over the last day or so, and it works quite well, it also makes a backup of the sources.list so all changes are reversable
[08:23] <Rob-West> http://www.abclinuxu.cz/images/clanky/kratky/kde4-plasma-2.png
[08:23] <stdin> it also asks "do you want to continue" just to be sure :)
[08:24] <binks> what you writitng it in
[08:24] <stdin> binks: bash :)
[08:24] <binks> i just got up can you tell
[08:24] <stdin> binks: I just woke up too (well about an hour ago)
[08:24] <binks> and the gui part
[08:25] <stdin> binks: there is a nice little app called "kdialog" that can do it quite well
[08:25] <lascar> who has knowledge of getting ntfs-3g to work?
[08:25] <stdin> lascar: there is a guide on the help pages
[08:26] <lascar> i know
[08:26] <lascar> i've checked it
[08:27] <binks> i used zenity on the tovidwiz thats nice an easy too
[08:27] <binks> im learning pyqt at themoment so i can really go to town on a new tovid gui
[08:27] <stdin> binks: when I put the GUI bit in, it will check which you have zenity or kdialog and use one
[08:28] <binks> nice
[08:28] <J-_> Has anyone had kububtu run a lot smoother than Gnome?
[08:29] <intelikey> stdin yes   i might sujest parsing the existing sources.list for that info  for Q in <full list of.. au us gb uk nl jp...> ;do grep -m1 'archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu' | grep "/$Q." && NL=$Q ;done     for example   and of course that would need a dubble check that NL didn't endup the full list.    but you can do that anyway you like.      other than that   the removed comments in the end result is the only thing that catches my 
[08:30] <J-_> Let me reword that, has anyone had kububtu run a lot smoother than Ubuntu on their computer? heh
[08:30] <intelikey> you could change my sujestion and make it only read the file one time    that would shorten the process time and disk activity.
[08:30] <stdin> intelikey: well I can always add the comments, and I was thinking of the vast way to check the the local code was valid, but all input is welcome :)
[08:30] <stdin> *best not vast :P
[08:30] <ucpalx> kubuntu seems to run smoother
[08:31] <jambo76> have anyone installed webmin on kubuntu?
[08:31] <binks> im still new to nix programming so big learning curve :)
[08:32] <J-_> Yeah, I just installed kubuntu through the repos, and me likey. I might uninstall Ubuntu, and reinstall from repos and see if it runs smoother than kubuntu because in reality shouldn't gnome run smoother than kubuntu? Kubuntu is a lot heavier of a windows manager, no?
[08:32] <intelikey> stdin yeah i thought of the LANG setting but that really has nothing to do with region  but rather education/background    so the origenal sources.list is the place to parse out that info    also one could parse it  and then just ask do you wish to continue using the $NL mirror ?
[08:33] <stdin> intelikey: yeah, that sounds good
[08:34] <monsterb_> stdin, What project are you working on? I missed that part. :)
[08:34] <intelikey> then if they say no you can sub let an option to set a mirror.     also a list to choose from is normally the best idea
[08:35] <J-_> is Logo a good language to learn? What is it used for, any up-to-date programming/integration?
[08:35] <stdin> monsterb_: just a shell script to enable universe/multiverse automatically, take a look http://www.pastebin.ca/314236
[08:35] <stdin> intelikey: yeah, but do you happen to know where a full list of local mirrors is?
[08:36] <madmike> wow I'm drunk go meeee
[08:36] <tulga> I want add user only 1 line (without password prompt). is it possible?
[08:36] <jambo76> i got it to work'
[08:37] <monsterb_> stdin, ok thx
[08:38] <stdin> tulga: I don't understand, can you explain?
[08:38] <tulga> stdin: I can run shell script like newusers.sh name password...
[08:38] <intelikey> stdin parse with this.    NL=`grep -m1 -oe /[a-z] [a-z] . /etc/apt/sources.list | cut -c2-3`
[08:39] <tulga> howto write shell script like that?
[08:39] <intelikey> stdin actually    NL=`grep -m1 -oe /[a-z] [a-z] . /etc/apt/sources.list | cut -c2-4`
[08:39] <tulga> my application cannot give password to system when system asking password
[08:39] <tulga> application can run one line command
[08:40] <tulga> stdin: do you understand me?
[08:40] <intelikey> then test for the third char to be .
[08:40] <intelikey> if it is it's a good mirror if not   no.
[08:42] <stdin> intelikey: with that command on my sources.list I get "gb. <newline> ubu"
[08:43] <intelikey> hmmm let me check...
[08:44] <tulga> stdin: about my problem?
[08:44] <stdin> tulga: not sure if you can do that, as you'd need to use "adduser" to add a user, and it calls other apps to encrypt the password, and the script would have to be run as root anyway
[08:44] <stdin> tulga: tho you can make a user without a password, then add one later
[08:45] <tulga> stdin: I have root access
[08:46] <tulga> I need only pipe command to add user
[08:47] <tulga> I can run command only. I cannot give password to server when server prompting password
[08:47] <tulga> I want add user with password without any prompt
[08:47] <stdin> tulga: but you still can't pass the password to adduser in a script, it needs to be interactive, or set to no password
[08:47] <tulga> I'm adding user from perl
[08:48] <tulga> then perl don't know now asking password or not
[08:48] <tulga> it is my big problem
[08:48] <Cagarro> what is katapult ?
[08:58] <monsterb_> !hearts
[08:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hearts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:59] <J-_> holy netsplit batman.
[09:00] <intelikey> stdin there is no way to make grep work with .  so i had to do some fancy foot work there.
[09:00] <intelikey> NL=`grep -m1 -oe 'http://[a-z] [a-z] .' /etc/apt/sources.list | cut -c8-10 | tr '.' '+' | grep -e '+' | tr '+' '.'`
[09:00] <intelikey> i know it's long but it works.
[09:03] <the-erm> I goofed up, and uninstalled kcontrol's service manager.  Anyone know what package I need to install to get it to work again?
[09:03] <brett__> what is the best way to make a image a smaller size?
[09:04] <intelikey> bzip2 ?
[09:04] <the-erm> I think convert will do it brett__ ... imagemagik
[09:05] <brett__> i dont want to zip it
[09:05] <brett__> just shrink it for myspace
[09:05] <lascar> hence convert
[09:05] <the-erm> You mean HxW
[09:05] <brett__> thanks the-erm
[09:05] <brett__> hxw or pixels per inch
[09:05] <the-erm> Convert should even do % iirc
[09:06] <brett__> cool i am about to install it
[09:06] <the-erm> I've always used php's gd library to do resize images, but that's mostly because I do it on a web page :)
[09:07] <intelikey> stdin
[09:08] <brett__> the-erm: i dont see Convert in adept
[09:08] <stdin> intelikey: Just figuring out a way to add that without rewriting too much :P
[09:11] <makuseru> how can i read/copy an encrypted dvd?
[09:11] <stdin> !dvd
[09:11] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:11] <stdin> makuseru: you need the "libdvdcss" package
[09:12] <intelikey> stdin   line; SOURCES=sources.list  ;NL=`grep -m1 -oe 'http://[a-z] [a-z] .' /etc/apt/sources.list | cut -c8-10 | tr '.' '+' | grep -e '+' | tr '+' '.'`      and change  echo -n "Enter your county code...    to do you wish to change $NL  if no LN=$NL     :)
[09:12] <stdin> intelikey: that's what I was actually doing :P
[09:13] <intelikey> see
[09:13] <intelikey> see how you are.
[09:13] <intelikey> see
[09:13] <intelikey> :)
[09:13] <makuseru> stdin, thats just for playing movies, im trying to rip some games onto my comp, how can i decrypt them in kubuntu?
[09:13] <intelikey> rip  decript     ?
[09:14] <stdin> makuseru: they use different encryption methods, you could use dd I guess
[09:14] <intelikey> makuseru get all your warez at 127.0.0.1
[09:14] <makuseru> dd?
[09:14] <intelikey> dd
[09:14] <intelikey> DD
[09:14] <makuseru> whats thatt
[09:15] <stdin> makuseru: it's a console command, read "man dd" in konsole
[09:15] <intelikey> dd if=/dev/stdin of=/dev/stderr
[09:15] <ucpalx> whaha
[09:15] <stdin> I can't be copied :P
[09:16] <makuseru> and intelikey: i dont wanna get um from myself
[09:16] <lascar> god I'd do anything to get ntfs and kubuntu to cooperate...
[09:16] <stdin> could work like: dd if=/dev/hdc of=~/mygame.iso
[09:17] <intelikey> makuseru do you want to get ubuntu suied out of existance ?     is that the plan ?
[09:17] <intelikey> warez is a good way to do it.
[09:17] <makuseru> im trying to play a game, i own, on my own computer
[09:17] <intelikey> umm hmmm
[09:18] <makuseru> i am, im to lazy so share anything on the internet
[09:18] <intelikey> !ntfs | lascar
[09:18] <ubotu> lascar: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:18] <intelikey> !ntfs-3g | lascar
[09:18] <ubotu> lascar: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[09:19] <intelikey> !fuse | lascar
[09:19] <ubotu> lascar: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[09:20] <binks> is 3g or fuse better i use 3g  but just thought id ask
[09:20] <intelikey> makuseru and you have to rip it why exactly     oh and about decripting it, why do that if you own that copy ?
[09:20] <makuseru> because im trying to get a gamecube emulator to work
[09:21] <makuseru> and i need a game to try and get the thing to work
[09:21] <intelikey> 3g seem more tolerable binks
[09:21] <binks> there is a gamecube emu
[09:21] <makuseru> ya
[09:21] <lascar> intelikey: i've been trying to get 3g to work, but no cigar
[09:21] <binks> 3g is easy to set up
[09:21] <intelikey> lascar fstab
[09:21] <lascar> if it were, binks
[09:21] <lascar> i wouldn't be here
[09:21] <lascar> pastebin, intel?
[09:21] <binks> but after you install you have to reboot
[09:22] <intelikey> yeah
[09:22] <lascar> !pastebin
[09:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:22] <monsterb_> makuseru, gamecube has DVDs ?
[09:22] <makuseru> yes
[09:22] <makuseru> mini dvd's
[09:23] <binks> in #qt there is a bot that when someone uses pastbin.qt  it notifies in the chan i think thats cool
[09:23] <lascar> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1410/
[09:23] <intelikey> last i tried to paste there that was still broken  may need to use  pastebin.ca  or  paste.rafb.org
[09:23] <intelikey> ok
[09:23] <lascar> intelikey: the umask is for across-the-board write access
[09:24] <monsterb_> makuseru, oh - i was thinking of N64.
[09:24] <lascar> and the drive is external
[09:24] <lascar> even still
[09:24] <lascar> with line 12 removed, intelikey,
[09:24] <lascar> i've got everything but write-access
[09:25] <intelikey> lascar  sed 's/umask=0/fmask=111,dmask=000/' /ect/fstab
[09:25] <lascar> intelikey: "sed?"
[09:25] <intelikey> yeah when you get finished teaching me about fstab and mount options look it up
[09:25] <stdin> sed - stream editor for filtering and transforming text
[09:26] <lascar> intelikey: ?
[09:26] <binks> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1411/ ,  << thats my fstab lascar
[09:26] <lascar> relax, man
[09:27] <intelikey> just about too.  going to bed in 3.22 minutes
[09:27] <lascar> binks: you use 3g?
[09:27] <binks> yes
[09:28] <binks> althou its not setup correct how did that happen but i have no need to write
[09:28] <binks> how did i do that
[09:29] <lascar> intelikey: thanx
[09:29] <intelikey> ok i'm left.
[09:29] <intelikey> lascar np
[09:30] <intelikey> i'm went.
[09:30] <binks> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1412/ << info on 3g howto
[09:32] <lascar> intelikey = knowledgeable
[09:38] <leiar> I've just installed java 1.5.1 by downloading from sun, running fakeroot make-jpkg and finally installed it with dpkg -i. But it seems that I should have removed existing java version 1.4.2 before I installed 1.5. How can I remove the existing Java?
[09:39] <stdin> how did you install 1.4.2 ?
[09:40] <leiar> It came with the distribution
[09:40] <monsterb_> leiar, what distro?
[09:40] <leiar> my dist is kubuntu dapper 6.0
[09:40] <stdin> you should just be able to update the alternatives of java to point to he right version
[09:41] <stdin> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[09:41] <stdin> there is an ubuntu package for java 1.5 too
[09:42] <leiar> stdin: thank's a lot :-)
[09:43] <stdin> no problem :)
[09:46] <leiar> stdin: ubuntu package?
[09:46] <leiar> I've tried sudo apt-get install java
[09:46] <stdin> yeah, it's in the multiverse repository
[09:46] <stdin> it's sun-java5-jre
[09:46] <stdin> !sun-java5-jre
[09:46] <ubotu> sun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 7279 kB, installed size 16132 kB
[09:46] <stdin> there's more than just -jre too
[09:47] <monsterb_> stdin, jre for amd64?
[09:47] <leiar> I haven't got used to use the ubuntu's package manager, I use apt-get.
[09:49] <leiar> My main goal is to be able to watch net-tv, but it seems my mplayer plug-in won't work properly
[09:49] <stdin> monsterb_: the sun java package should run on amd64 too
[09:50] <stdin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java << guide for getting java
[09:51] <monsterb_> stdin, ok thx
[09:52] <leiar> How do I install mplayer and mplayerplug-in the propper way. I use firefox 1.5
[09:54] <stdin> leiar: the mplayer plugin is in the package "mozilla-mplayer"
[09:54] <kraut> moin
[09:56] <posingaspopular> homw do you switch between keyboard inputs? on the keyboard?
[09:56] <leiar> stdin: I've done that. But it lokks like the mplayerplug-in goes into a loop while trying to play net-tv. Does this have anything with permissions to do?
[09:57] <stdin> leiar: got a URL so I can look?
[10:00] <magnus_> NEWBIE question: I run kubuntru and it works great. I will now install it on my secound PC what is the correct way to get all the goodies? 1. Install "standard" kubuntu 2. Install EasyUbuntu  Question Anything more to get ha good base level?
[10:02] <stdin> don't, I repeat, DON'T, use easyubuntu or automatix, they can leave your system in an unusable state if you try and upgrade to a newer version of kubuntu
[10:04] <Hawai`i> what would you suggest other than the automatix?
[10:04] <Hawai`i> <--newb also
[10:04] <stdin> install things the proper way, EasyUbuntu/Automatix are nither recommended or supported
[10:04] <leiar> I'd really like to get net-TV working. I've installed mplayer and the plugin. When opening a TV-programme in the browser, mplayer starts loading, and it ends up in a loop. Anybody experienced anything similar?
[10:05] <stdin> the ubuntu help pages tell you haw to get everything you want/need
[10:05] <stdin> magnus_ , Hawai`i : read this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[10:06] <Hawai`i> nod nod.. i Have gone over that.. just one friend was telling me about the automatix... and well.. not knowing ne better.. I did it.. seems everything is working okies
[10:07] <Hawai`i> but I can see where you come from bout upgraded version of Kub
[10:07] <stdin> Hawai`i: you system may work fine now, but you may have some issues upgrading
[10:07] <stdin> !automatix
[10:07] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:08] <Hawai`i> nod nod
[10:10] <[StingRay] > Hi, stdin :)
[10:10] <stdin> hey [StingRay]  :)
[10:12] <stdin> [StingRay] : do you know much about bash scripting?
[10:13] <[StingRay] > stdin, not much, my best script is an kubuntu FreeNX terminal server install , but it nothing special
[10:14] <[StingRay] > stdin, I will be glad to be of service ;)
[10:15] <[StingRay] > there is a good #bash cahnnel, stdin. The guys are real pro scripters.
[10:15] <stdin> [StingRay] : was just asking because I want some input on a script I'm putting together http://www.pastebin.ca/315039
[10:15] <stdin> [StingRay] : I'm pretty good at bash, just want some fresh eyes :)
[10:16] <boss_78> join #supertux
[10:20] <[StingRay] > stdin, You definitely have to ask someone from #bash ;). I have not used awk and tr.
[10:20] <stdin> [StingRay] : the script works fine, just wanted to know how it could be better, it's only a 2nd draft :)
[10:22] <[StingRay] > stdin, are you familiar with the extensions of X?
[10:22] <stdin> [StingRay] : a couple, but I'm no expert
[10:23] <[StingRay] > stdin, vnc is playing bad trick on me and wine.
[10:23] <leiar> ./bye
[10:23] <magnus_> newbie how to get a list of channels available...
[10:23] <stdin> [StingRay] : what errors ?
[10:23] <[StingRay] > stdin, the reason is that tightvnc uses Xvnc and Xvnc is loading only 7 extensions out of 27...
[10:23] <leiar> bye
[10:23] <[StingRay] > "x11drv_main.c: X11DRV_CritSection"
[10:23] <Flosoft> hey
[10:23] <stdin> magnus_: you in konversation ?
[10:23] <[StingRay] > randomly, stdin this is the problem...
[10:24] <Flosoft> I have got a problem connecting to my wireless
[10:24] <Flosoft> someone else has already posted a good description on the ubuntuforums .... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=284745
[10:24] <[StingRay] > stdin, this is the complete error: err:ntdll:RtlpWaitForCriticalSection section 0x7f114300 "x11drv_main.c: X11DRV_CritSection"
[10:24] <leiar> how do I leave the channel. I thought it was /bye
[10:24] <leiar> \bye
[10:24] <leiar> bye
[10:24] <stdin> leiar: /part
[10:25] <stdin> [StingRay] : WAY to complex for my tiny brain there
[10:26] <[StingRay] > stdin, ;) the "good" news is that noone responded on winehq too
[10:27] <stdin> [StingRay] : maybe #xorg ?
[10:27] <[StingRay] > stdin, I have to switch back to FreeNX and the nightmare of session resuming.
[10:27] <stdin> [StingRay] : I'm sure you can disable it if you don't want it, server side
[10:28] <[StingRay] > stdin, Xvnc is causing the problems...Xorg is already 7.0 and Xvnc is using extensions from 3.3 afaik
[10:28] <stdin> magnus_: are you using konversation, and want a channel list?
[10:29] <stdin> [StingRay] : then use a more up-to-date vnc server, i guess
[10:29] <[StingRay] > stdin, I am testing currently vnc4server. which is using more extensions, but its compression is very bandwith hungry.
[10:31] <stdin> [StingRay] : that's the only problem with vnc, you need the bandwidth, that's why I used NX a while ago, it had much better compression
[10:31] <[StingRay] > I will try to reduce it as much as possible, but tightvnc is could hardly reach 10 kB. vnc4server hardly goes below 20 kB
[10:31] <stdin> [StingRay] : is that with 1024x768 ?
[10:32] <stdin> or 800.600 ?
[10:32] <[StingRay] > I know stdin, but FreeNX is problematic as it comes to session resuming.
[10:32] <[StingRay] > yes, stdin 1024x768, though 800x600 will do the work too.
[10:33] <klaus3> hi
[10:33] <stdin> 800x600 should reduce the banwidth you need, at least a bit
[10:33] <[StingRay] > stdin, I am running an wine application which is connected to a firebird database. If the session fails and cannote be resumed you have an opened handle to the firebird, which is risky...
[10:33] <stdin> hmm, yeah
[10:39] <paranoid__> hi, anyone knows a way to assign a samba share to a fix directory ?
[10:39] <stdin> paranoid__: you mean mount a samba share?
[10:39] <paranoid__> yep
[10:40] <stdin> paranoid__: yeah, all you need to do is install "smbfs", then you can mount it
[10:41] <paranoid__> stdin: thx, will try
[10:42] <lostbyte> !ipv6
[10:42] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[10:42] <lostbyte> !ipv6-off
[10:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipv6-off - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <stdin> paranoid__: you can mount it like "mount -t cifs //Server.IP.Address/ShareName /place/to/mount/to -o user=username,password=password
[10:43] <stdin> paranoid__: or there is also a GUI called "smb4k"
[10:45] <lostbyte> Is ipv6 enabled by default on Edgy ?
[10:45] <stdin> lostbyte: it's on my default in all versions
[10:45] <stdin> *on by
[10:49] <lostbyte> stdin, ok..
[10:53] <exs> does anyone know of a free dns?.. my own ISP dns is slow and poor, so I used openDNS and that's also annoying with its built in search engine. Is there any other free dns's?
[10:54] <stdin> exs: 4.2.2.1
[10:55] <usemody> rofl
[10:55] <usemody> hello peeps
[10:55] <usemody> can any once help me pls
[10:56] <exs> stdin:  that's an odd number, usually it's like 158 etc
[10:56] <stdin> exs: try it, it works here :)
[10:56] <usemody> have 2 questions ------
[10:56] <stdin> usemody: don't know until you ask
[10:58] <usemody> Richte rageircd ein (2.0.1-5) ...
[10:58] <usemody> Adding system user
[10:58] <usemody> adduser: Warnung: Das von Ihnen angebene Homeverzeichnis existiert bereits.
[10:58] <usemody> Gestatte Verwendung eines zweifelhaften Benutzernamens.
[10:58] <usemody> Es gibt bereits einen Systembenutzer mit Namen Debian-rageircd. Beende...
[10:58] <usemody> ERR: Not starting Rage IRC Daemon: Conffile /etc/rageircd/rageircd.conf missing
[10:58] <stdin> !de
[10:58] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:58] <usemody> invoke-rc.d: initscript rageircd, action "start" failed.
[10:58] <usemody> dpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten von rageircd (--configure):
[10:58] <usemody>  Unterprozess post-installation script gab den Fehlerwert 1 zurck
[10:58] <usemody> what can i do
[10:58] <usemody> thx
[10:58] <usemody> but need i can translate
[10:59] <usemody> orgin from germany but speak good ur lang u see
[10:59] <stdin> you'll get a better answer from a german speaker than me
[10:59] <usemody> ;)
[10:59] <stdin> so what does it say then?
[11:00] <mineur> greetings
[11:01] <stdin> hi
[11:02] <mineur> ubuntu's update servers are so slow?
[11:02] <stdin> depends what servers you are using
[11:03] <mineur> be.archive.ubuntu.com
[11:03] <usemody> it says that adduser give msg 4 exist home directory
[11:03] <stdin> mineur: be.archive.ubuntu.com is actually mirror003.isp.belgacom.be
[11:03] <usemody> and thats it cant be finished bekause nvoke-rc.d: initscript rageircd, action "start" failed.
[11:04] <mineur> Belgacom has faster servers then this :p
[11:04] <mineur> where is a mirror list?
[11:04] <usemody> so the subprocess given error msg 1 back
[11:05] <stdin> mineur: don't know, try asking in the main ubuntu channel #ubuntu
[11:05] <michitux> usemody: you could try LANG=C your command to get english messages :)
[11:05] <stdin> usemody: what are you trying to install/update?
[11:07] <usemody> 4 yet need to complete remove this package rageircd
[11:08] <usemody> but by normal way over apt-get and dpkg it couldnt happend because pre install script does break with error msg 1
[11:09] <TtyS2> hello
[11:28] <eMaX_> hi all
[11:28] <mineur> hi
[11:28] <stdin> hey
[11:28] <eMaX_> I just wanted to install an update for wpasupplicant through the update manager. I tells me "old post-removal script was terminated with error status 10" and then fails to install the new package. Is anyone having a similar problem?
[11:29] <stdin> try it in konsole, you may get a better error message "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[11:29] <paranoid__> anyone knows why i can't see anything in / with konqueror and ls -al takes VERY long to show the content
[11:30] <eMaX_> same error
[11:30] <stdin> !hidden | paranoid__
[11:30] <ubotu> paranoid__: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[11:30] <eMaX_> he says preparing for replacement of wpasupplicant 0.5.5-3vlubuntu4
[11:30] <stdin> eMaX_: use pastebin
[11:30] <eMaX_> then the error state 10
[11:30] <stdin> to show the whole content
[11:32] <eMaX_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1417/
[11:34] <stdin> eMaX_: can you do "LANG=C sudo apt-get upgrade"
[11:35] <paranoid__> stdin ... doesn't help ... i guess it has something to do with /media ... don't know what this is ... but it has no size, nod owner, no date, no perm ....
[11:36] <stdin> paranoid__: can you post the output of "ls -Al /" to pastebin please ?
[11:37] <paranoid__> mmh, the line with media says : ?----? ? ? ?        ? media
[11:37] <eMaX_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1418/
[11:38] <stdin> paranoid__: you can try removing the media dir, and re creating it
[11:39] <paranoid__> tried it but doesn't work ... can cd into --- but doing ls there results in I/O Error
[11:39] <stdin> eMaX_: that package isn't from ubuntu, so I don't know what's wrong with it
[11:39] <eMaX_> why isn't that from ubuntu ?
[11:39] <stdin> paranoid__: so you can't do "sudo rm /media" ?
[11:40] <paranoid__> no :(
[11:40] <stdin> paranoid__: dose it give an error?
[11:41] <stdin> eMaX_: it seems to be from the 3v1n0 repository, check your sources.list for non official repositories
[11:41] <paranoid__> nevermind, did a reboot and looks good now ... don't know what happened there
[11:41] <medyk> Witam wszystkich serdecznie
[11:42] <stdin> !pl
[11:42] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[11:43] <medyk> Dzikuj
[11:43] <stdin> paranoid__: it's normally due to some filesystem error, if it happens again, run "sudo shutdown -r -F" to force a check of the disk
[11:44] <eMaX_> how can I force a removal? apt-get remove wpasupplicant doesn't work either
[11:44] <bene__> hi
[11:44] <fdoving> eMaX_: what holds it back?
[11:44] <stdin> eMaX_: do you need the package ?
[11:44] <eMaX_> how can I force a removal? apt-get remove wpasupplicant doesn't work either
[11:44] <eMaX_> well apparently not
[11:46] <eMaX_> deinstalling also deinstalled knetworkmanager network-manager network-manager-gnome ubuntu-minimal  according to the command line output but then failed uninstalling wpasupplicant
[11:46] <stdin> eMaX_: hmm, ubuntu-minimal seems to depend on the package
[11:46] <eMaX_> I mean if I could somehow force him to forget about the package I could probably reinstall
[11:46] <a9913> how do make amarok play mp3s?
[11:46] <a9913> it seems to be skipping them all
[11:46] <stdin> !mp3 | a9913
[11:46] <ubotu> a9913: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:47] <a9913> ahh.... thanks
[11:47] <stdin> :)
[11:47] <paranoid__> stdin: k, thx ... btw, isn't mplayer in apt-get ??
[11:47] <eMaX_> that's why I was asking for a "forced" removal
[11:47] <stdin> paranoid__: it's in multiverse
[11:47] <eMaX_> but I don't see anything like --force in man apt-get
[11:48] <stdin> eMaX_: why do you have the non official repository in your sources.list ?
[11:48] <paranoid__> stdin: what's multiverse ... sorry, i'm new to ubuntu ... installed it yesterday
[11:49] <stdin> !multiverse | paranoid__
[11:49] <ubotu> paranoid__: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:49] <stdin> paranoid__: that will tell you how to enable it
[11:50] <paranoid__> k, thx ;)
[11:52] <eMaX_> stdin anyway. do you know of a method to force removal of a package?
[11:52] <stdin> eMaX_: yes, but it would be easier just to remove the other repository from the sources
[11:53] <Flosoft> hey
[11:53] <Flosoft> I have got a problem with my wifi card
[11:53] <stdin> eMaX_: "sudo dpkg --force-all --remove wpasupplicant"
[11:54] <stdin> Flosoft: have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs ?
[11:55] <Flosoft> stdin: the problem is ... I know how to generally setup the wifi card
[11:55] <Flosoft> stdin: but I got a laptop here ... Core2Duo with an Atheros Onboard Wifi Chip
[11:56] <Flosoft> I had no problems setting up my IPW2200BG
[11:56] <Flosoft> but this one ... simply doesn
[11:56] <Flosoft> t workk
[11:56] <eMaX_> no. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1422/
[11:56] <Flosoft> I tried WEP and WPA
[11:56] <Flosoft> eh ... WPA2
[11:57] <stdin> eMaX_: what's that supposed to be ?
[11:57] <Flosoft> stdin: someone else has posted the same problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=284745
[11:57] <franx> hi folks
[11:58] <franx> sorry to bother everyone, but i have a vnc question
[11:58] <franx> i have read the howto set up vnc with resumable sessions post
[11:58] <franx> and i am actually on vnc here
[11:58] <franx> but when in this vnc session, i try to run firefox
[11:59] <franx> Xlib:  extension "XInputExtension" missing on display "raptor.yi.org:1.0"
[11:59] <stdin> Flosoft: I'm not a wifi expert, as I don't use it, but you can post a support request on https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ they normally get answers more then on the forum
[11:59] <eMaX_> in fact 10 wpasupplicant/accepted-repo-change doesn't exist
[11:59] <franx> but konversation works
[11:59] <franx> as does konquerer
[12:00] <eMaX_> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1423/
[12:01] <franx> who has the wifi q?
[12:01] <franx> im on wifi with wpa
[12:02] <franx> sonicGB: welcome from .au
[12:02] <franx> im in wa
[12:02] <stdin> franx: Flosoft has the wifi question
[12:02] <franx> ta
[12:02] <geoffb> er, thanks.
[12:02] <franx> Flosoft: whats your wifi q
[12:03] <franx> geoffb: sorry, just couldnt help noticing the isp
[12:04] <geoffb> sorry, I guess I'm just not used to people being nice to me on ubuntu related channels
[12:04] <ScarFreewill> my isp blocks out p2p/torrent can i still use it?
[12:04] <Flosoft> fran: what is wifi q?
[12:05] <Flosoft> franx: what is wifi q?
[12:05] <franx> wireless question
[12:05] <franx> sorry
[12:05] <Flosoft> ow
[12:05] <Flosoft> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ticket/3162
[12:05] <stdin> ScarFreewill: if you change to a non default port and use encryption (available in ktorrent)
[12:06] <ScarFreewill> i set my port to 56413
[12:06] <eMaX_> ok fixed it
[12:06] <eMaX_> I just edited the apt-get.postrm file by hand and commented out the failing line; then I uninstalled and reinstalled. the line was
[12:07] <eMaX_> a dbreset.
[12:08] <Flosoft> franx: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ticket/3162
[12:08] <franx> Flosoft: yeah, sorry. i dont know how to answer that
[12:09] <Flosoft> damn
[12:09] <franx> Flosoft: but i can set up one which is based on the ra chipset
[12:09] <Flosoft> franx: if you want I can open an ssh screen session
[12:11] <andreasw> hi
[12:11] <eMaX_> ok tnx
[12:11] <Flosoft> franx: It is an Atheros onboard chip afaik
[12:12] <Flosoft> franx: 02:07.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5005G 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
[12:13] <MetProphet> Mahlzeit
[12:13] <stdin> !de
[12:13] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:14] <franx> Flosoft: thanks but i dont think im smart enough
[12:14] <franx> =/
[12:14] <eMaX_> Mahlzeit
[12:15] <eMaX_> LANG=C Mahlzeit
[12:15] <MetProphet> ?
[12:15] <Flosoft> franx: damn ... I think it is something stupid I have missed out or so ... as in theory it should work
[12:15] <Flosoft> franx: and the security isn
[12:15] <Flosoft> 't the problem
[12:16] <Flosoft> I have WEP and WPA2
[12:16] <MetProphet> Mit welchem Programm kann ich mir unter Kubuntu DVD`s angucken?
[12:16] <Flosoft> MetProphet: Kaffeine
[12:17] <MetProphet> <-- neuling
[12:17] <Flosoft> MetProphet: du brauchst aber libdvdcss oder so ... guck mal auf google .. es sind libxine-extracodecs usw ...
[12:18] <mineur> if you want to play DVD's and other restricted formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats follow these steps
[12:20] <mineur> MetProphet: Ogle, Kaffeine, Codeine, they all can play dvd's when libdvdcss is installed
[12:23] <franx> MetProphet: id say get automatix2 but that gets people mad so i wont =P
[12:24] <stdin> no, don't say it :)
[12:24] <Xera> what's wrong with automatix? xD
[12:24] <franx> but id love to be told why im getting this XInputExtension error
[12:24] <stdin> I think the bot sums it up well
[12:24] <stdin> !automatix
[12:24] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:24] <Xera> !automatix
[12:24] <Xera> lol?!?
[12:25] <Xera> i've used it since i installed ubuntu and it works fine
[12:25] <XenThraL> !WorksForMe
[12:25] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[12:25] <Xera> !anything
[12:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:25] <Xera> point proven.
[12:25] <mineur> !mineur
[12:25] <franx> !XInputExtension
[12:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mineur - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about XInputExtension - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:25] <stdin> !botabuse
[12:25] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[12:26] <Xera> /hide
[12:26] <Xera> !botsnack
[12:26] <ubotu> Yum!
[12:26] <Xera> what is this bot coded in?
[12:26] <Lynoure> !ubotu
[12:26] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:26] <MetProphet> What is automatix?
[12:26] <Xera> MetProphet: http://getautomatix.com
[12:26] <Xera> all the info you need
[12:27] <Lynoure> Xera: I guess that first url might answer your question about ubotu.
[12:27] <stdin> except the part saying "this will fsck your system"
[12:28] <mineur> what are nowadays good irc clients, few years ago I was an xchat fan, but I guess other players are on the market?
[12:28] <Xera> Konversation > all
[12:28] <Xera> XChat is annoying
[12:28] <XenThraL> konversation
[12:28] <XenThraL> ownz
[12:29] <mineur> lol hey I used to like it... but it's been years :)
[12:29] <mineur> yeha ok I'm using Konversation now
[12:30] <mineur> I should have had guessed... Kubuntu :p
[12:32] <MetProphet> <-- -
[12:40] <bartist> hello !!
[12:40] <stdin> hi
[12:40] <bartist> i've lost my "File, Edit, View ..." bar in konqueror
[12:40] <bartist> and i cant manage to put it back
[12:40] <bartist> any ideA?
[12:40] <stdin> bartist: try pressing "Ctrl-M"
[12:41] <YumeNoEien> hello
[12:41] <stdin> hi YumeNoEien
[12:41] <bartist> done, thanx stdin!
[12:41] <stdin> bartist: no problem :)
[12:42] <YumeNoEien> i have a problem again, im still trying to get my laptop on the internet. And someone mentioned that it could be a common problem that firefox would fix
[12:42] <YumeNoEien> i looked up how to install FF on linux
[12:42] <YumeNoEien> but it only tells me to unpack
[12:42] <YumeNoEien> the tar file
[12:43] <stdin> YumeNoEien: you use Adept to install it
[12:43] <mineur> is there a system wide setting for browser preference??
[12:43] <YumeNoEien> k
[12:43] <YumeNoEien> thanks
[12:43] <mineur> I want to use opera in stead of conquerer
[12:44] <Lynoure> mineur: What's stopping you?
[12:44] <stdin> mineur: for KDE: Kmenu -> System Settings -> Default Applications
[12:44] <mineur> some applications opening konquerre when I click a link :)
[12:44] <Lynoure> Even though there is a security bug in Opera still unfixed :(
[12:45] <bartist> i have another problem
[12:45] <stdin> mineur: system wide: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[12:45] <bartist> my sound is messed up
[12:45] <stdin> !sound
[12:45] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[12:46] <mineur> kde is system-wide enough for me :)
[12:46] <mineur> thanx :)
[12:46] <stdin> :)
[12:47] <Lynoure> YumeNoEien: But if your laptop cannot connect to the internet at all (I assume then you are not on irc from it), FF is not going to fix that as it is just a web browser.
[12:48] <bartist> so, my sound is messed up, and i've read from there: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[12:49] <bartist> that this: sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils
[12:49] <bartist> followed by that: sudo apt-get install linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils
[12:49] <bartist> should fix it
[12:49] <YumeNoEien> @lynource argh thats not what i wanted to hear :P
[12:49] <bartist> and it did
[12:49] <bartist> until sound server crashed
[12:50] <YumeNoEien> @lynource heres the advice i got, its not just changing the browser
[12:50] <YumeNoEien> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2004813#post2004813
[12:50] <Lynoure> YumeNoEien: But, if you describe the problem, maybe a real solution can be found.
[12:51] <YumeNoEien> Well i want to ceonnect my laptop to the internet using an ethernet card. The modem company says its OS independant and should work
[12:51] <YumeNoEien> on linux aswell
[12:51] <Lynoure> YumeNoEien: It seems the answer you got is not directly related to your question. :)
[12:51] <YumeNoEien> but i dont know how to configure it into getting online
[12:51] <YumeNoEien> argh -.-
[12:51] <Lynoure> YumeNoEien: You used it with MS windows before?
[12:51] <YumeNoEien> yeah
[12:52] <YumeNoEien> in fact its pretty much windows orientated
[12:52] <YumeNoEien> but i kicked windows out and put kubuntu on it
[12:52] <stdin> YumeNoEien: you just need to set it to use DHCP in the nsetowk settings, in System Settings, ignore that "handy" guy
[12:53] <YumeNoEien> lol
[12:53] <YumeNoEien> getting to it right now
[12:54] <YumeNoEien> okay the network interface is on Aotomatic - DHCP
[12:55] <YumeNoEien> interface is enable
[12:55] <YumeNoEien> do i do anything with the other tabs in network settings?
[12:55] <stdin> YumeNoEien: no, you should now have internet
[12:56] <Lynoure> I usually do things on command line... Cannot even remember what tabs there is :)
[12:56] <YumeNoEien> k
[12:56] <YumeNoEien> reloading network, might take a few secs
[12:57] <YumeNoEien> :(
[12:58] <YumeNoEien> i tried google and i got 'Unknown host www.google.com'
[12:58] <Lynoure> YumeNoEien: Did you use "Optain network settings automatically" in Windows? If not, it might be your modem is not configured to do dhcp
[12:59] <YumeNoEien> !
[12:59] <YumeNoEien> good question,..
[12:59] <YumeNoEien> i configured it from my desktop, so i can still check how its configured
[12:59] <Lynoure> Good :)
[01:03] <cyrille_> I have a question of noob
[01:03] <YumeNoEien> join the club
[01:03] <YumeNoEien> :)
[01:03] <Lynoure> cyrille_: ask away?
[01:04] <Christoph> Hi guys, I got one question: Does anyone of you know where I can get an interactive C Compiler for Kubuntu??
[01:05] <stdin> KDevelop maybe
[01:05] <stdin> !kdevelop
[01:05] <ubotu> kdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 7894 kB, installed size 24892 kB
[01:05] <adaptr> Christoph: do you mean a development environment ? an "interactive C compiler" sounds like a training tool.. not sure such a thing exists
[01:06] <boss78> I have a graphic boards wich doesn't want to function at 100 per cent
[01:06] <Christoph> adaptr: Yes it's basically an IDE for programming LEGO robots
[01:06] <Christoph> KDevelop dosn't give me anything
[01:06] <Christoph> doesn't
[01:06] <Christoph> no project templates
[01:07] <adaptr> Christoph: C is a compiled language.. an interactive compiler doesn't make much sense
[01:07] <stdin> adaptr: I think he means an IDE for C/C++
[01:07] <adaptr> stdin: doesn't sound like it, see above
[01:08] <stdin> boss78: any other information you want to give ?
[01:08] <Christoph> no an IDE/Compiler for Interactive C. Interactive C is somewhat like C
[01:08] <ScarFreewill> !sip
[01:08] <ubotu> sip: Python/C++ bindings generator. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.10.2-1.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 74 kB, installed size 208 kB
[01:08] <ScarFreewill> does kde have a sip app?
[01:09] <dennis_> Is anybody who speaks german here ?
[01:09] <YumeNoEien> Lynoure i tried to see if the setting is set to "Optain network settings automatically" in windows, but couldnt find it
[01:09] <stdin> Christoph: you mean like http://www.botball.org/educational-resources/ic.php ?
[01:09] <stdin> !de | dennis_
[01:09] <ubotu> dennis_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:09] <YumeNoEien> assuming im not anble to find it, and that im not able to set it to manual
[01:10] <YumeNoEien> i think it safe to assume its done automatically :o
[01:10] <dennis_> !de
[01:10] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:10] <dennis_> thx
[01:10] <stdin> ScarFreewill: you mean VoIP ?
[01:10] <ScarFreewill> stdin: yes
[01:11] <ScarFreewill> stdin: well can some one phone me from talkanot
[01:11] <Christoph> stdin: precisly
[01:11] <Lynoure> YumeNoEien: That setting is under Networks>settings>tcp/ip and something, but if you can access the modem configuration, it is just called dhcp somewhere there.
[01:11] <YumeNoEien> k
[01:11] <ScarFreewill> *talkonaut
[01:12] <stdin> !kphone
[01:12] <ScarFreewill> does kopete support it?
[01:12] <ubotu> kphone: Voice over IP (VoIP) phone application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.2-6 (edgy), package size 406 kB, installed size 1260 kB
[01:12] <YumeNoEien> found it
[01:13] <YumeNoEien> it is set on DHCP Server
[01:13] <YumeNoEien> instead of Auto DHCP
[01:13] <stdin> ScarFreewill: yeah, there are a few different choices, kphone seems good
[01:13] <YumeNoEien> so i set it to Auto DHCP right?
[01:13] <ScarFreewill> stdin: thx
[01:14] <stdin> :)
[01:15] <ScarFreewill> stdin: do you know of any good j2me apps that works with google services?
[01:15] <Lynoure> YumeNoEien: Sound probable, yes, I cannot be 100% sure without checking what they mean by Auto
[01:16] <stdin> ScarFreewill: not off the top of my head, you can always google for it
[01:16] <YumeNoEien> il go for trial and error
[01:16] <YumeNoEien> gonna try it right now
[01:16] <YumeNoEien> no need
[01:16] <YumeNoEien> to reboot linux right?
[01:16] <ScarFreewill> stdin: i look all over sf.net and google and jabber.org/clients
[01:16] <Lynoure> YumeNoEien: no, but you might want to do  sudo dhclient
[01:17] <ScarFreewill> stdin: best one i found was talkonaut but its not opensouced
[01:17] <Lynoure> YumeNoEien: the result of that will tell a lot of interesting things in any case
[01:17] <yelonek> hi, I mounted iso image to /media
[01:17] <YumeNoEien> cool, ill put it in the terminal right now
[01:17] <yelonek> how do i unmount this thing ?
[01:17] <stdin> ScarFreewill: I know kopete works with googles IM, don't know about google VoIP, tho I think google use SIP??
[01:17] <yelonek> i tried sudo umount /media
[01:17] <yelonek> but it says 'device is busy'
[01:18] <stdin> yelonek: where exactly did you mount it to?
[01:18] <yelonek> exactly to /media
[01:18] <stdin> yelonek: type "mount" to check
[01:18] <stdin> yelonek: you should have used a sub directory, but ok
[01:18] <yelonek> .iso on /media type iso9660 (rw,loop=/dev/loop0)
[01:19] <yelonek> stdin: now i know ;)
[01:19] <stdin> yelonek: have you got any apps open that could be using it, eg Konqueror ?
[01:19] <yelonek> there was Konq, but i closed it
[01:19] <yelonek> and tried again
[01:20] <swami> try umount -a and then mount -a
[01:20] <Lynoure> YumeNoEien: I would normally ask you to cut and paste it to pastebin if it does not work, but without network that's a bit too much work for you
[01:20] <yelonek> swami: what does it mean ?
[01:20] <stdin> yelonek: dose "lsof|grep /media" show anything ?
[01:21] <stdin> yelonek: swamis suggestion won't help you
[01:21] <ScarFreewill> stdin: http://www.gtalk2voip.com/
[01:21] <YumeNoEien> aww man Lynource
[01:21] <YumeNoEien> its no problem
[01:22] <swami> that he unmount everything but the /boot and then mounts everything that is in fstab
[01:22] <Lynoure> I use "lsof|grep /media" startlingly often with my usb disk. :)
[01:22] <YumeNoEien> but im not the quickest typer :P
[01:22] <swami> "he = OS"
[01:22] <yelonek> stdin: it shows 5 entries
[01:22] <stdin> swami: he's mounted a iso, it's not in fstab
[01:22] <Lynoure> YumeNoEien: but giving some idea of what it said could help, no need to type it all
[01:22] <galathalion> anyone using last.fm?
[01:22] <Lynoure> galathalion: yes
[01:22] <yelonek> but first it showed:
[01:22] <yelonek> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() iso9660 file system /media/cdrom0
[01:22] <yelonek>       Output information may be incomplete.
[01:22] <YumeNoEien> Listening on LPF/eth0/00:0fb0:90:el:b7
[01:23] <Lynoure> galathalion: Amarok supports it nicely
[01:23] <YumeNoEien> oh
[01:23] <stdin> yelonek: what are the names in the far left ?
[01:23] <YumeNoEien> sending on the same place its listening
[01:23] <yelonek> Konqueror, bash, lsof, grep, lsof
[01:23] <Lynoure> YumeNoEien: it's asking on IPv6 instead of IPv4
[01:23] <galathalion> Lynoure: what am i supposed to do? Ive downloaded it.. now what?
[01:23] <yelonek> but no Konqueror is working
[01:23] <YumeNoEien> DHCPDiscover to 255.255.255.255 on port 67 several times
[01:24] <YumeNoEien> it should be on IPv4?
[01:24] <stdin> yelonek: you see the number to the right of konqueror?
[01:24] <Lynoure> oh, sorry, I misread
[01:24] <bartist> hello again
[01:24] <bartist> thanx for the advises
[01:24] <bartist> everything is working!
[01:24] <Lynoure> YumeNoEien: no, seems fine. But if it is not getting an answer, something is not right...
[01:24] <yelonek> stdin: it's PID i guess ?
[01:24] <YumeNoEien> and there were no DHCPOFFERS received
[01:25] <bartist> i'm downloading stuff with amule, but I dont know where the files are downloaded
[01:25] <YumeNoEien> also no working leases in persistent database
[01:25] <stdin> yelonek: yes, so we're going to kill that process with "kill PID" (where PID is the number)
[01:25] <yelonek> stdin: kill it with KDE process manager ?
[01:25] <bartist> and I also would amule to understand that my default player is kaffein
[01:26] <stdin> bartist: that should be in the amule settings somewhere
[01:27] <bartist> I know stdin, but i dont know where
[01:27] <Lynoure> YumeNoEien: Does you modem keep a log of dhcp requests?
[01:27] <yelonek> stdin: thank you, I made it
[01:27] <YumeNoEien> i think i saw something like that
[01:27] <stdin> yelonek: did it unmount now?
[01:27] <YumeNoEien> ill look it up
[01:27] <stdin> bartist: I don't use amule, so I don't know :)
[01:27] <yelonek> stdin: yes
[01:28] <ubuntu__> hello
[01:28] <stdin> yango: great, it's normally konqueror that's the problem in that circumstance :)
[01:28] <Lynoure> YumeNoEien: I have a splitting headache and the pharmacy will close soon, so I'll have to go in about 10min :(
[01:29] <YumeNoEien> its okay
[01:29] <YumeNoEien> go get well :)
[01:29] <YumeNoEien> the laptop has no real priority or rush
[01:29] <YumeNoEien> ^
[01:29] <Xera> Alarm: probably best to ask in here xD
[01:30] <Alarm> eehehe ok ;0
[01:31] <Lynoure> YumeNoEien: one thing you could do if the dhcp is giving you trouble is to check what the ip of the modem is, and set the laptop to have static ip in the same subnet for a bit. But as a long term solution it won't do for a laptop.
[01:32] <malik_> how do i configure firefox to play multimedia streams from internet?......i have kaffienbe and kmplayer with xine engine
[01:33] <YumeNoEien> Lynoure: thanks, Il get to that later on. I have to go meet a friend right now
[01:33] <YumeNoEien> my problem may not be solved (yet) but thanks a lot for your help!
[01:36] <malik_> how do i configure firefox to play multimedia streams from internet?......i have kaffienbe and kmplayer with xine engine
[01:36] <malik_> can any one help please
[01:48] <malik_> how do i configure firefox to play multimedia streams from internet?......i have kaffienbe and kmplayer with xine engine...........can any one help plz?
[01:49] <Xera> malik_: install mplayer with the firefox plugin
[01:49] <Xera> all can be found in the repos
[01:50] <waylandbill> malik_: there's a plugin that uses mplayer
[01:50] <ScarFreewill> !kphone|ScarFreewill
[01:50] <waylandbill> what Xera said.. :-)
[01:50] <ubotu> kphone: Voice over IP (VoIP) phone application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.2-6 (edgy), package size 406 kB, installed size 1260 kB
[01:50] <Xera> mozilla-mplayer mplayer
[01:50] <Xera> there
[01:55] <n0ne> n0ne@powerplant:~$ cedega
[01:55] <n0ne> (Point2Play_gui.py:18709): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
[01:55] <n0ne>         Using the fallback 'C' locale.
[01:55] <n0ne> Traceback (most recent call last):
[01:56] <n0ne>   File "/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega/Point2Play_gui.py", line 44, in ?
[01:56] <n0ne>     locale.setlocale(locale.LC_ALL, '')
[01:56] <n0ne>   File "/usr/lib/python2.4/locale.py", line 381, in setlocale
[01:56] <n0ne>     return _setlocale(category, locale)
[01:56] <n0ne> locale.Error: unsupported locale setting
[01:56] <n0ne> any ideas ? sorry for flood
[02:07] <kowa> moin moin
[02:13] <wersdaluv> IDENTIFY allanc
[02:24] <B-Minus_> test
[02:31] <needKubuntuhelp>  There
[02:31] <needKubuntuhelp>  Okay, anyone want to help a complete newb?
[02:31] <mineur> what's the prob? :)
[02:32] <Tox> hi, is there any way to view/preview folder content at the side panel in  konqueror not opening it ?
[02:32] <needKubuntuhelp>  I know about the program repositories and all........ but my Kubuntu-running computer is not connected to the internet. How do I find, download and install these programs?
[02:33] <needKubuntuhelp>  I told you I was a newb..........
[02:33] <mineur> well
[02:33] <Tox> ok i found it "tree view" tnx anyway if somebody will answer :)
[02:34] <needKubuntuhelp>  lol @ Tox
[02:34] <Tox> :)
[02:34] <mineur> hang on needKubuntuhelp :)
[02:35] <mineur> needKubuntuhelp: you can download the *.deb packages
[02:35] <mineur> and install them manually
[02:36] <needKubuntuhelp>  Manually........ as in more complicated than double-clicking on the installer file and it installs itself?
[02:36] <mineur> no :)
[02:36] <needKubuntuhelp>  Oh good
[02:36] <mineur> in konquerer... right click on it, install package :)
[02:36] <Tox> how do u think he do it if he dont have internet :)
[02:36] <mineur> not sure what the program is called to install packages manually
[02:36] <mineur> installed from the cd? :)
[02:36] <needKubuntuhelp>  So where are these repositories?
[02:37] <needKubuntuhelp>  Yeah, Kubuntu installed from cd
[02:37] <ubuntu> hey i need some help with my partitions... i have 2 partitions for kubuntu but cant "create" them with qtparted. they have unknown type
[02:37] <needKubuntuhelp>  ubuntu, last time I had that, I had to reformat the whole drive a couple of times, shut down, reboot, THEN it would let me do what I wanted.
[02:38] <needKubuntuhelp>  But somebody else here probably knows a better way :P
[02:38] <ubuntu> uh
[02:38] <needKubuntuhelp>  QTParted just will NOT do what I want sometimes. Don't know why.
[02:38] <ubuntu> hm i wonder if i killed my windows partition with that
[02:38] <karmikaze> can you concatinate two partitions without losing data? or would you lose the data on both partitions
[02:38] <Tox> try some programs ( like partition magic or acronis) boot disks
[02:39] <mineur> needKubuntuhelp: I'm not sure about a web frontend to browse and search the repository
[02:39] <ubuntu> i using kubuntu live cd at the moment, but guess i cant install it by using this partitions can i?
[02:39] <needKubuntuhelp>  Anyway, where are these repositories of programs when you're on an M$ computer?
[02:39] <needKubuntuhelp>  Rats
[02:40] <mineur> http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[02:40] <needKubuntuhelp>  ubuntu, you can manually install if you set the partitions up beforehand
[02:40] <mineur> here you can browse.... :)
[02:40] <needKubuntuhelp>  Okay, that is going in my browser favorites list
[02:41] <ubuntu> needKubuntuhelp: yes but i cant set the partitions ;)
[02:41] <mineur> but mind you... when you download packages you'll need to check the dependencies... it'll be a huge pain
[02:41] <needKubuntuhelp>  But ubuntu, if Kubuntu is the only OS you want on your computer, you might as well just let it rewrite the hard drive and set up its own partitions
[02:42] <Theory> Does anyone know a way of stopping Network manager from deciding to create default routes if the dhcp server doesn't specify a gateway
[02:42] <Tox> what if he want have both os ?
[02:42] <needKubuntuhelp>  Now if you're setting up a dual-boot system, you'll want to set the partitions manually, then install Kubuntu manually
[02:42] <ubuntu> needKubuntuhelp: hm no my other 3 partitions need to stay on the hdd
[02:43] <needKubuntuhelp>  Then subdivide the partition you want Kubuntu in and install it to said partition manually
[02:43] <needKubuntuhelp>  QTParted does that
[02:43] <mineur> needKubuntuhelp: can't you temporarely hook your pc up to the net to install/upgrad epackages?
[02:44] <mineur> because to download and install manually... it'll be a huge pain.
[02:44] <needKubuntuhelp>  Probably need logic partitions instead of real partitions if you're on an Intel processor though......... :/
[02:44] <ubuntu> needKubuntuhelp: qtparted doesnt give me any opportunities to do that
[02:44] <needKubuntuhelp>  mineur, what did you mean dependencies?
[02:44] <Tox> is there any professional program for manipulations with hdd in linus like acronis i win i.e ?
[02:44] <needKubuntuhelp>  Yes QTParted does
[02:44] <mineur> some packages depend on others... so if you want to install A it may require BCDEF
[02:44] <needKubuntuhelp>  Ahhh
[02:44] <mineur> so if you dson't have them installed..........
[02:45] <mineur> you'll need to download them too
[02:45] <needKubuntuhelp>  And if you just link to the repositories straight, it'll do that automatically
[02:45] <needKubuntuhelp>  ?
[02:45] <mineur> yes with adept or synaptec, great front ends
[02:45] <mineur> they'll just download all the required things
[02:46] <needKubuntuhelp>  So my IP is Centurytel, and I have their Netopia modem. Can I just take it out of the back of this Windows XP computer, plug it into my Kubuntu computer and take off?
[02:47] <mineur> depends on your provider... is your mac-address registered to them?
[02:47] <mineur> might be wise to release your ip first in windows...
[02:47] <waylandbill_> needKubuntuhelp: shared libraries mostly are dependencies.
[02:47] <needKubuntuhelp>  mineur: Don't know
[02:47] <mineur> probably it isn't then :)
[02:47] <ubuntu> needKubuntuhelp: puuh guess ill boot windows and try with pmagic
[02:48] <needKubuntuhelp>  BTW: with so many people here, tabbed nick autocomplete is more of a pain than it's worth
[02:48] <needKubuntuhelp>  Just a comment
[02:48] <mineur> so then, yes release your ip in windows switch cable, and then someone here might tell you the graphical frontend to get your internet going :d
[02:48] <waylandbill_> mineur: the computer you plug into is going to ask for dhcp request anyway, so releasing first shouldn't be needed.
[02:48] <mineur> with my isp I have to.... if I don't release my isp won't give me a new ip-address
[02:49] <mineur> but I wouldn't be surprised if it just works without releasing :)
[02:49] <waylandbill_> mineur: that's a limitation in their bind daemon then.
[02:49] <mineur> yep... I didn't say it as a good thing... it sucks :d
[02:49] <waylandbill_> :)
[02:50] <mineur> I guess he's gonna try it :)
[02:50] <waylandbill_> guess so.
[02:51] <mineur> I'm going to try to get sun java running here
[02:57] <Cagarro> I want to install compix but I dont know how?
[02:57] <Cagarro> compiz
[02:57] <mineur> there are enough wiki's on the net for that :)
[02:58] <Cagarro> yaaa... but when I request compiz-kde , the program says it does not exist
[02:58] <Cagarro> Backports are activated
[02:59] <Jucato> !compiz | Cagarro
[02:59] <ubotu> Cagarro: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:59] <mineur> did you do an apt-get update ?
[02:59] <Cagarro> tnks jucato. I always forget ubotu
[02:59] <Cagarro> yes
[03:02] <riofd> hi, is there any software hlt-based cpu cooler for linux? i have about 10-15 degrees lesser temperature on cpu in XP with software cooler than in linux (edgy)
[03:02] <klees> doing a make xconfig gives me a qconf: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[03:03] <klees> is anyone familiar with this error?
[03:03] <binks> afternoon all anything cool happend today
[03:06] <binks> is there a cmd for renameing a file thats locked by root
[03:07] <mineur> can't you unlock it first?
[03:07] <mineur> which file?
[03:07] <binks> no the file is messed up
[03:07] <Jucato> sudo mv <oldname> <newname>
[03:07] <klees> doing a make xconfig gives me a qconf: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[03:07] <klees> is anyone familiar with this error?
[03:07] <binks> i have 3 in /home that if i try delete say file dont exist
[03:08] <binks> the name contains odd charachters
[03:08] <mineur> ok I switched from windows to kubuntu on my laptop yesterday, after being pretty familiar with debian on my server.... I think I'm in love :)
[03:08] <binks> wow bad english
[03:08] <binks> with me mineur thanks
[03:09] <mineur> binks: try adding the -f switch
[03:09] <binks> i have to admit i dont get into the i hate windows thing but kubuntu is by far the best desktop i have
[03:09] <mineur> mv -f old new (and try tab completion on the old filename)
[03:11] <binks> it doenst recognise ven the first letter / symbol
[03:11] <binks> even
[03:13] <mineur> what weird filename is it???
[03:13] <binks> http://www.pastebin.co.uk/8615
[03:14] <binks> a dir from my /home http://www.pastebin.co.uk/8616
[03:15] <ScarFreewill> stdin: ping
[03:16] <mineur> and what does mv \:* foo
[03:16] <mineur> do?
[03:16] <mineur> make that sudo mv \:* foo
[03:16] <ScarFreewill> um can anyone tell me if there is a free sip server that i can connect to?
[03:17] <binks> 1 down 2 to go
[03:18] <Khayaal> can somebody help me how to install a dial up modem in kubuntu?
[03:18] <binks> mineur thanks and sorry for some of the content in my /home i have a younger brother who uses my pc every now and then
[03:18] <mineur> the EPEL thingie now?
[03:19] <binks> yes
[03:19] <mineur> lol.... don't let someone else mess in your folder..... give him a separate acount :)
[03:19] <binks> i dont no even where the files came from pos when i read the drive from windows
[03:19] <josh_> hello all
[03:19] <josh_> i hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhave a problem with                                                   kubuntu and vmware
[03:19] <binks> hi josh_
[03:19] <Khayaal> can anybody help me how to install a dial up modem in kubuntu?
[03:20] <mineur> try: sudo mv ?PEL* foo
[03:20] <Khayaal> i am not able to connect through it
[03:20] <josh_> iiiiiiii cant get the vmware tools iiiiiiiiiiiiinstalled and it is killing my typpppppppppppppppppppping and mouse and stuff
[03:20] <josh_> aas you can see by    the mmmmmmuliple repeated keys
[03:20] <binks> mv: cannot stat `?PEL*': No such file or directory
[03:21] <mineur> if you can't get it installed........ how can it screw up things then josh_?
[03:21] <binks> can i try sudo mv *PEL*foo
[03:21] <mineur> hmmm
[03:21] <mineur> then try: sudo mv *PEL* foo
[03:21] <josh_> bbbbbbbecause until it gets installed it doesn't recognize thing properly
[03:21] <Parkotron> Khayaal: I'm not sure if I can't help or not, but I'll try.
[03:21] <josh_> llllike keystrokes and ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssscreen size
[03:22] <mineur> no other files are recognised with the *PEL* pattern, so it should be ok :)
[03:22] <Parkotron> Khayaal: Is the modem detected as an interface?
[03:22] <Khayaal> no
[03:22] <binks> 2 down minuer you the man/gal
[03:22] <mineur> man :)
[03:22] <binks> :)
[03:22] <klees> how can i tell what plugins i have installed in Firefox???
[03:23] <mineur> with your plugin manager I guess. I don't use ff
[03:23] <Parkotron> klees: about:plugins in the address bar.
[03:23] <mineur> but I guess when it has plugins... it has a manager for them :)
[03:23] <klees> mineur: i dont know how to use the plugin manager
[03:23] <Parkotron> klees: Or did you mean extentions?
[03:23] <josh_> iiiiiiiiiii have tried googling for my problem and have       founnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd various sites explaining hhhow to do it but nonne of them work
[03:24] <klees> Parkotron: no plugins.  i need to know what version is the flash plugin installed
[03:24] <Parkotron> josh_: Try #vmware. You'll probably have better luck there.
[03:24] <josh_> and the extra keystrokes is really      buggingg me as i hate tttttttttttttttttyposssssssssssssssssssss
[03:24] <josh_> ook thank you
[03:24] <Khayaal> and what about me? how to connect to net in kubuntu? :)
[03:25] <Parkotron> klees: Then about:plugins should tell you.
[03:25] <mineur> when I was playing with dial ups... I was still using winblows.... :) so sorry can't help you out :)
[03:25] <binks> khayaal how do you connect cable dsl how
[03:25] <klees> Parkotron: thx that worked
[03:26] <mineur> I think he just said dial up...
[03:26] <Khayaal> well, i am using windows
[03:26] <Khayaal> and i dont have cable
[03:26] <Parkotron> Khayaal: Sorry, I don't think I can help you. I've never dealt with modems in Linux.
[03:26] <Khayaal> in my area in pakistan
[03:26] <Khayaal> its ok
[03:26] <Khayaal> :)
[03:26] <mineur> and why do you come to a linux channel to get your modem working in windows? :)
[03:26] <Khayaal> no
[03:26] <Khayaal> from windows i can connect to net
[03:27] <binks> he has to connect using windows he wants kubuntu
[03:27] <Khayaal> when kubuntu is not even recognizing whether i have modem or not
[03:27] <binks> is it a pci modem
[03:27] <Khayaal> yeah, i want to connect through kubuntu
[03:27] <mineur> well have you checked the KPPP tool yet?
[03:28] <Khayaal> it is zoltrix conaxant modem
[03:28] <binks> dapper or edgy Khayaal
[03:28] <binks> it will be recognised
[03:28] <Khayaal> my display, sound, printer etc. all are recgonzied by kubuntu
[03:28] <binks> trust me
[03:28] <Khayaal> how to?
[03:28] <steveire> I thought konqueror was usable as a ftp client. Doesn't seem to be really.
[03:29] <binks> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_configure_dialup_connectionse
[03:29] <mineur> I would guess: open kppp tool, there's an option to add a modem... but as I said before.. never tried to configure a dial up modem in linux
[03:29] <binks> ctrl f and seach dial
[03:29] <steveire> I logged in to a ftp site, and it reports no files or folders.
[03:29] <mineur> maybe it's an empty ftp site? :)
[03:29] <binks> in the ubuntu guide that is
[03:29] <Khayaal> and where i can find kppp tool? :)
[03:29] <Parkotron> Khayaal: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190728 might help?
[03:29] <binks> sudo apt-get install kppp
[03:29] <mineur> in your kde menu under internet... but check the link binks just gave
[03:30] <binks> Khayaal you on the machine atm or is it another machine
[03:31] <Khayaal> i have different partition for windows and kubuntu
[03:31] <Khayaal> i am using windows xp right now
[03:31] <h3sp4wn> You cannot expect someone to install things with apt-get with no working internet connection
[03:31] <mineur> hehe h3sp4wn
[03:31] <binks> just got the last file mineur mint thanks alot ::):)
[03:32] <mineur> np :)
[03:32] <mineur> kppp is installed by default
[03:32] <binks> heh me daft h3sp4wn think b4 you type binks
[03:32] <h3sp4wn> Khayaal: http://linmodems.org/ have a look on that site see if your modem is supported
[03:33] <mineur> finally someone with modem knowledge here :d
[03:33] <archangel_> I have a M$ multimedia keyboard. Can I use the multi media buttons with kubuntu?
[03:33] <binks> that zotrix modem is one of the most popular ever made its a usrobotics clone
[03:34] <Khayaal> yeah
[03:34] <Khayaal> thanks god
[03:34] <Khayaal> but still I have to use dialups, what a pity :)
[03:34] <binks> no god is the barman in my local ;)
[03:35] <mineur> archangel_: http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/ might be something for you?
[03:36] <archangel_> sweet thanx
[03:36] <mineur> also check this forumpost: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193936
[03:36] <mineur> I wonder why I'm doing all the googling for others :p
[03:37] <h3sp4wn> http://132.68.73.235/linmodems/first.html - that scanmodem tool should help you easily find out what chipset etc you have
[03:37] <mineur> jeuj een landgenoot :p
[03:38] <h3sp4wn> best to learn linux with no internet connection anyway (maybe no X either)
[03:38] <h3sp4wn> as long as you have some doc's
[03:38] <mineur> that's true... but on your own in console... takes some time and a lot of effort
[03:39] <binks> h3sp4wn why do we need to learn with no x  we aint all got that time you can learn in x i think no x would put 99.9% of people off
[03:40] <binks> if you want to work in nix maybe but for the average desktop user
[03:42] <mineur> that's also true... but the more you know from stuff under the hood, the better you can resolve problems :)
[03:43] <mineur> it never harms reading a config file, being able to work with apt-get and stuff like that... cause once your nice desktop crashes... you're left alone in a dark console :)
[03:43] <y3it221_klce> how to upgrade Ubuntu Dapper to Kubuntu Edgy??
[03:43] <h3sp4wn> y3it221_klce: only supported way is by update-manager
[03:43] <mineur> y3it221_klce: first backup your system, then run: sudo update-manager -c -d
[03:44] <h3sp4wn> changing sources.list and dist-upgrade you will have some stuff to fix manually
[03:44] <Hobbsee> !update
[03:44] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[03:45] <mineur> anyone knows of an alternative for Karamba or superkaramba? cause it keeps crashing here :(
[03:45] <h3sp4wn> binks: Unless you use cli you don't get the advantages of using ths os (may as well use a mac or windows)
[03:45] <binks> is it the widget or superkaramba thats crashing
[03:45] <mineur> !cli
[03:45] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[03:46] <mineur> ah :)
[03:46] <Parkotron> Does anyone know how to enable FLAC support in K3B? Some other distros have a specific package for it, Kubuntu doesn't seem to.
[03:46] <mineur> don't know... I guess the widget... but I want that widget :p
[03:47] <binks> i use cli alot but didnt when i first started nix if i had to then i dont think i would of stuck it out its only with time and confidence that i use a terminal more
[03:47] <binks> !FLAC
[03:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:48] <n0ne> !c
[03:48] <mineur> cli is nice, but honestly nowadays I don't really like messing with config files, I want a nice front end :)
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <binks> is there no debug in superkaramba to find out whats crashing it
[03:48] <n0ne> !clibs
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clibs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:49] <binks> im just learning how to program PyQt so i can make a nice gui for tovid my fav nix app
[03:49] <mineur> tovid?
[03:49] <binks> i can use tovid cli but im lazy and dont like all the typing all the time
[03:49] <binks> tovid is a dvd creation app
[03:50] <binks> well set of srcipts allows multiple menus and etc
[03:50] <mineur> what is a good program to rip dvd's ?
[03:50] <binks> motion menus you no fancy dvds
[03:50] <mineur> hehe
[03:50] <binks> dvd::rip
[03:51] <mineur> one with a front end? :p
[03:51] <binks> its in the repos
[03:51] <cloakable> DVD::Rip seems quite friendly too
[03:52] <Cagarro> Is it possible to have compiz installed in KDE?  All the documentation I see is related to gnome... Does anyone has Compiz installed ?
[03:52] <mineur> I use beryl... but if beryl can do it in kde... I guess compiz too
[03:52] <Tox> where i can find network indicator to place on systray ?
[03:52] <binks> i like xgl and beryl in kde
[03:53] <Cagarro> could you point me the documentation with instructions on how to install beryl?
[03:54] <archangel_> how do I install a deb fil?
[03:54] <binks> biab need to clean bathroom
[03:54] <astronaute> does anyone know if Audigy 2 have Hardware multiplexing, to use teamspeak + game ??
[03:54] <binks> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=290841&highlight=beryl+install
[03:54] <archangel_> I went to install/uninstall programs, but I dont see the option
[03:54] <Cagarro> ok binks :) tanks
[03:55] <Jucato> Cagarro: the topic in the #ubuntu-xgl channel has lots of docs
[03:56] <astronaute> please guys anyone can answer this please ? ^^
[03:56] <ali_> salve a tutti
[03:56] <archangel_> mineur: that was exactly what I wanted, thanx
[03:56] <Tox> i need network indicator on my systray, where i could find it
[03:57] <ali_> qualcuno sa dirmi coem cambio grafica a kde 6.10 ho visto delle belli vesti grafiche ma come si montano?
[03:58] <mineur> np :)
[03:58] <Jucato> !it | ali_
[03:58] <ubotu> ali_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:59] <ali_> ah sorry
[04:02] <mineur> My italian isn't that good :p
[04:03] <mineur> I only know bad words :p
[04:03] <fulat2k> hi folks, any idea how i can fix a broken suspend feature in edgy?
[04:04] <Tido> is there any way to run a local LAMP server just for development that is lighter than normal?
[04:08] <lostbyte> Hi..
[04:11] <pip`> problem: my screen display is way to big for my monitor, how do i decrease my display size ??
[04:11] <pip`> to fit the monitor
[04:12] <pip`> i tried settings-display and typed in my admin pw etc, but none of the buttons would work
[04:14] <pip`> the screen-size slide wont move
[04:14] <pip`> :((
[04:17] <Buffer> Hola!
[04:17] <Buffer> a todos
[04:17] <Dr_willis> Nachos Grande!
[04:19] <ubuntu> hi
[04:20] <ubuntu> igaz cdrl megy (mg) a kubuntu
[04:20] <ubuntu> s amikor az ablakot elhzom vhova akkor
[04:21] <ubuntu> hullmzik a kp
[04:21] <ubuntu> ugyanez ubuntunl
[04:21] <Dr_willis> !ru
[04:21] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[04:21] <Dr_willis> or what language is that... :P
[04:21] <Dr_willis> !es
[04:21] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:21] <ubuntu> Hungarian
[04:21] <Dr_willis> !hu
[04:21] <ubotu> Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu
[04:21] <ubuntu> n?
[04:22] <Dr_willis> Sorry i only speek english.
[04:22] <ubuntu> O.K.
[04:22] <pip`> help help
[04:22] <stdin_> hmm, there seem to be two of me...
[04:23] <Dr_willis> stdin_,  ive been cloneing in my spare time again.
[04:23] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:23] <Dr_willis> pip`,  and the issue is?
[04:23] <pip`> my desktop runs off my monitor on all sides :((
[04:23] <pip`> already tried adjusting both monitor & kubuntu display settings
[04:23] <stdin> that's better, I am one ahain :)
[04:24] <chuen> Afternoon all.
[04:24] <Dr_willis> pip`,  does the screen actually scroll? or is just a little too big?
[04:24] <pip`> the display was ok yesterday
[04:24] <chuen> I'm trying to set up amule
[04:24] <pip`> the screen is way to big
[04:24] <chuen> Can someone tell me how I go about opening a couple of ports?
[04:24] <Dr_willis> pip`,  are you saying its real low 'resolution' ?
[04:24] <klees> how do i disable shadows from the desktop font (kubuntu)??
[04:24] <Parkotron> pip`: Try running krandrtray and use the applet that shows up un the systray.
[04:24] <stdin> chuen: on a router ?
[04:25] <pip`> and my lcd monitor doesnt seem to have x-y size controls
[04:25] <pip`> Parko, ok
[04:25] <chuen> stdin: Hi. I have opened them on the router (forwarding). But when I look at firestarter amule is trying port 80
[04:25] <Dr_willis> a lcd monitor you normally want to run at its native resolution
[04:25] <pip`> well, the resolution seems to have changed from high to a mere 640 etc
[04:26] <amigrave> Trying to install kubuntu 6.10 with the i386 cd installer on my Dell Latitude X1, after X has been started, I get this error from KDM : "Authenticating Ubuntu...   A critical error occured"  does this sound familiar to ne1?
[04:26] <Xera> does kubuntu come with gtkhtml2?
[04:26] <pip`> my screen resolution is usually set to native 1280
[04:26] <stdin> chuen: what port should it run in
[04:27] <pip`> but it seems to have changed to 640 since yesterday
[04:27] <Buffer> amigrave ... your latitude is Duo?
[04:27] <amigrave> Buffer: Duo ?
[04:28] <amigrave> Buffer: what do you mean with Duo ?
[04:28] <Buffer> two processor
[04:28] <chuen> stdin: 4662 (tcp) 4672 (udp)
[04:29] <chuen> stdin: But AFAIK they can be pretty much any number.
[04:30] <waylandbill> amigrave: did you do a media check?
[04:30] <pip`> yesterday i tried installing a drive image program but it ended up conflicting ...  dont know if it has anything to do with my latest display problems
[04:32] <stdin> chuen: amule seems to be using those ports when I install it
[04:33] <amigrave> waylandbill: is "media check" an option of the boot cd that I missed ?
[04:34] <stdin> chuen: http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot9ih9.jpg
[04:35] <kersten> huhu
[04:36] <kersten> jmd da der gerade zeit hat mir bei nem prob zu helfen? is sicher schneller erledigt
[04:36] <stdin> !de
[04:36] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:36] <kersten> thx :)
[04:36] <waylandbill> amigrave: i don't know that it's a boot option, but you could md5sum the iso
[04:36] <stdin> :)
[04:37] <waylandbill> amigrave: or the cd itself.
[04:37] <stdin> waylandbill, amigrave: on the cd it's called "Chack the CD for defects"
[04:39] <amigrave> waylandbill: ok media check you meant the cd-rom (I thought it was an option to check hardawre compatibity) yes I compared the md5 before burnung
[04:39] <arriesp> bye
[04:39] <pip`> yesterday i installed a bunch of different themes... could this have caused my latest screen oversize problem i wonder ?
[04:40] <stdin> boubt it
[04:40] <xeroxer> Hi all. New kubuntu user at the keyboard
[04:40] <stdin> hello xeroxer :)
[04:41] <xeroxer> What IRC client should I use? :)
[04:41] <jab> every time i reboot i have to manually enter "iwconfig wlan0 essid lan0 essid [myWiFiNetwork] ; dhclient wlan0" to get wireless working...
[04:41] <chuen> stdin: Sorry, had to leave PC - will check that jpg
[04:41] <ondebarnet> hallo when i followed the kubuntu dektop installation guide for installing my ati gfx card it went horribly wrong. now it boot up in text mode and refuse to start x, (i am noob here). i tried startx and i tried something to reset the x config but it didnt work. how can i reset the x system to what it was before. like after install???
[04:41] <stdin> xeroxer: what are you using now?
[04:41] <mineur> xeroxer: Konversation
[04:41] <xeroxer> konversation
[04:41] <ondebarnet> i am on other computer
[04:42] <stdin> xeroxer: konversation is an exelent IRC client imo
[04:42] <xeroxer> oki. great.
[04:42] <ondebarnet> ok but all i want some windows syatem running instea d of text
[04:42] <mineur> it does what a client has to do... nothing less, nothing more :)
[04:43] <ondebarnet> is startx not the command to start the graphical system?
[04:43] <stdin> ondebarnet: from the console use "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose the "ati" driver for the card
[04:43] <xeroxer> good. just so used to windows and now I am trying kubuntu on my laptop
[04:43] <ondebarnet> ok thx i try
[04:43] <Jucato> !xconfig
[04:43] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". To configure only the driver and resolution, type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh".
[04:44] <jab> every time i reboot i have to manually enter "iwconfig wlan0 essid lan0 essid [myWiFiNetwork] ; dhclient wlan0" to get wireless up. anyone know how to make this happen automatically?
[04:45] <Lynoure> jab: knetworkmanager did not work for you somehow? But you can make a startup script with that command, or something.
[04:45] <Dr_willis> - /etc/rc.local perhaps
[04:45] <h3sp4wn> jab: man 7 wireless
[04:45] <stdin> jab: you can add that command to run when the network starts, in /etc/network/interfaces
[04:46] <h3sp4wn> jab: (tells you how to put it in the correct format for /etc/network/interfaces
[04:46] <h3sp4wn> so you can avoid the hack like nature of using pre-up
[04:46] <jab> Lynoure: i didn't see a way to specify that i want to automatically join a particular network with knetworkmanager
[04:46] <BluesKaj> Howdy All  ;)
[04:47] <Lynoure> jab: oh, mine join automatically the one I have joined before, but maybe I'm lucky. And the other networks here have keys I do not know, so maybe it'd be different if some of them were open.
[04:48] <chuen> stdin: Is that a screenshot you took of ports?
[04:48] <stdin> chuen: yep
[04:49] <stdin> jab: you need to change your /etc/network interfaces to have something like this in it http://pastebin.ca/315391http://pastebin.ca/315391
[04:49] <ondebarnet> stdin you are my hero it works!
[04:49] <stdin> ondebarnet: :)
[04:49] <bsm> hey, anyone using vmware server with ubuntu 6.10? when I try to launch the gui nothing happens, vmware process is at 100%
[04:49] <chuen> stdin: OK I'll try thise, what command did you use to get that?
[04:49] <mineur> more chance in #vmware bsm
[04:49] <jab> stdin: thanks so much, will try] 
[04:49] <chuen> Do you use firestarter?
[04:49] <bsm> mineur: tried it =)
[04:50] <jab> stdin: should i take out the existing line "auto wlan0"?
[04:50] <mineur> in that case... never used vmware :)
[04:50] <bsm> damn
[04:50] <stdin> jab: no leave that part in, all you need to add is the "pre-up" line
[04:51] <jab> stdin: great, thanks. will reboot and see what happens
[04:51] <stdin> jab: you don't need to reboot :P
[04:51] <stdin> jab: just run "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[04:52] <jab> stdin: oh ok, great
[04:52] <Dr_willis> using vmware server here just fine. There was a issue with the early releases of Edgy-eft that had some issues with vmware-server.
[04:52] <waveler> its my first time to use linux(kubuntu) what will i use to download mp3?
[04:53] <Dr_willis> bsm,  so i would say - update your system to the latest bits.. and try again.
[04:53] <Dr_willis> !p2p
[04:53] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[04:53] <pip`> omg! i think i just found out what was causing my oversized screen display problem...  yesterday i change my default browser to Epiphany !  but WHY should this cause such a problem ??
[04:53] <waveler> ok tnx
[04:53] <Dr_willis> pip`,  it shouldent.
[04:53] <waveler> i'll try it
[04:53] <ondebarnet> anyone has winuae working w wine?
[04:54] <Dr_willis> ondebarnet,  cant say that ive tried that.. there are linux native ports of the Amiga Emulator UAE
[04:54] <chuen> stdin: mmm, still not showing up on firestarter. (5115)
[04:54] <Bluedog> I want to make transparency in terminal show the windows below, not my desktop
[04:55] <Bluedog> anyone know how?
[04:55] <ondebarnet> yeah but winuae is better
[04:55] <stdin> chuen: firestarter only shows active connections, not listening ports
[04:55] <Dr_willis> Bluedog,  thats what xgl/aiglx is all about..
[04:55] <Dr_willis> Bluedog,  and other eye candy
[04:55] <Jucato> Bluedog: not possible without compositing (beryl/compiz or kompmgr)
[04:55] <chuen> stdin: Oh!
[04:55] <Dr_willis> yea beryl :) im still not sure how all that interrelates
[04:55] <pip`> when i changed back to Konqueror browser default, i rebooted & it gave me an 'out of frequency' screen error, but this time the settings-display menu allowed me to change settings back to high resolution etc
[04:55] <Bluedog> so I need to install beryl?
[04:55] <Bluedog> !beryl
[04:55] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:56] <Dr_willis> beryl is not a simple 'install'
[04:56] <chuen> stdin: How can I detect those?
[04:56] <Bluedog> ah just seen that..
[04:56] <mineur> Dr_willis: sure it is... I set it up in 5 minuts, following the wiki
[04:56] <Bluedog> what exactly IS it, does it replace the gnome window manager?
[04:56] <Dr_willis> mineur,  last i tried it - it was a disaster. :) but that was about 2 mo. ago.
[04:56] <mineur> hehe, what graphical card?
[04:56] <Jahman> hi
[04:56] <Dr_willis> Nvidia 6800
[04:57] <mineur> I have a crapy intel one on my laptop... and beryl runs surprisingly smooth on it
[04:57] <Dr_willis> the beryl/other stuff is advancing so fast however.. its amazing.
[04:57] <manchicken> Bluedog: No, it just overheats your video card and steals your memory.  But it is quite neat to see ^_^
[04:57] <Dr_willis> mineur,  my x200 card in my laptop cant handle it.
[04:57] <stdin> chuen: I use this command in konsole "sudo netstat -lnp" (-l = listening ports, -n use numbers for IPs and ports, -p show the process name listening on the port)
[04:57] <mineur> it is just more eye candy for your kde... :)
[04:57] <chuen> stdin: Thanks. I'll try it now ..
[04:58] <manchicken> mineur: I'd rather people focus on real neat-looking design instead of all this 3d jiggly nonsense.
[04:58] <mineur> or whatever window manager you use :)
[04:58] <stdin> chuen: you may want to add "|less" to the end, so it don't all scroll by :)
[04:59] <mineur> I agree it's useless but I like it anyway lol
[05:04] <h3sp4wn> It doesn't work with e17
[05:04] <cbeck> hi
[05:05] <waveler> is limewire compatible with linux?
[05:05] <cbeck> yes
[05:05] <cbeck> go to the wesite
[05:05] <waveler> can you give me the link?
[05:05] <cbeck> and you can download a linux version
[05:05] <cbeck> sure hold on
[05:05] <pip`> anyone here ever use moblock ?
[05:05] <waveler> its my first time to use linux
[05:06] <pip`> does moblock work with kubuntu i wonder?
[05:07] <cbeck> http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftLinux
[05:07] <waveler> tnx
[05:07] <Daisuke_Ido> frostwire, probably
[05:07] <waveler> i still find it diffucult to use this system
[05:08] <Daisuke_Ido> of course, the only reason anyone (i know) uses limewire is "adult material" and/or music.  and there are better solutions for both out there.
[05:08] <Xera> lol
[05:08] <Xera> i use it for music
[05:08] <waveler> lol
[05:08] <waveler> me too
[05:08] <Daisuke_Ido> check nicotine
[05:09] <Daisuke_Ido> or rather nicotine-plus
[05:09] <Xera> *cough*allmymusicisfromthere*cough*
[05:09] <arriesp> hi
[05:09] <Xera> bnr? bonor?
[05:10] <chuen> stdn: Sorry, could you send me that net activity command again pls? I thought I'd saved log to file but hadn't :(
[05:11] <stdin> chuen: yeah, I use it like: sudo netstat -lnp | less
[05:11] <chuen> stdin: thx.
[05:11] <stdin> :)
[05:16] <JP_P_home> hello
[05:16] <waveler> cbeck how will i install it now?
[05:17] <JP_P_home> I have a problem to install a network printer
[05:17] <waveler> i finished downloading it
[05:17] <ninnghizidha> question: How can i stick the multifunction-sidebar to the right side?
[05:17] <JP_P_home> it is a xerox phaser 6110
[05:17] <waveler> how can i install limewire? i finished downloading it
[05:17] <stdin> ninnghizidha: drag it maybe
[05:17] <chuen> stdin: Mm, what's weird (to me!) is it looks like amule is choosing arbitrary ports each time, rather than the ones I have aloocated in its preferences (and 'mirrored' on my router)
[05:17] <higi_> hello. I wanted to change my IP address and went to Control Panel- Network Preferences. Then I clicked in "administrator mode in order to gain root access", and the border of the window goes red and nothing happens. Can anyone help?
[05:19] <Dr_willis> !frostwire
[05:19] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[05:19] <Dr_willis> !limewire
[05:19] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[05:19] <waveler> i'll try it
[05:19] <stdin> chuen: it always uses the same ports here
[05:19] <stdin> JP_P_home: what's the problem ?
[05:20] <JP_P_home> i go to the printer manager to add a printer
[05:20] <JP_P_home> i choose tcp
[05:20] <JP_P_home> then i analyze the network to find the printer
[05:21] <JP_P_home> it found 192.168.1.3:9100 which is correct
[05:21] <JP_P_home> but after there is no driver for this xerox in the listing
[05:21] <higi_> does anyone know
[05:21] <JP_P_home> so i install what's was in the cdrom and i can found 2 files which correspond with the same name
[05:22] <JP_P_home> but after i try to print and nothing append
[05:22] <Xera> higi_: you should get a little box popup to enter the password, do so
[05:22] <Xera> then the area with the red border becomes activ
[05:22] <Xera> active*
[05:22] <Xera> !java
[05:22] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:23] <chuen> stdin. V. strang :)
[05:23] <higi_> Xera im not getting any popup
[05:23] <chuen> stdin: strange even :)
[05:23] <Xera> higi_: well, it will look like the one when you run adept or some other root program
[05:23] <higi_> yes i imagine
[05:23] <higi_> but it is not appearing
[05:23] <stdin> chuen: make sure you're looking at the ports, not the PIDs
[05:24] <arriesp> bye
[05:24] <chuen> stdin: I'll take another loo. thx.
[05:24] <higi_> :S
[05:24] <Xera> higi_: hmm
[05:24] <higi_> Xera:  is there any way to do it through Konsole?
[05:24] <Xera> uh
[05:24] <Xera> sudo systemsettings -caption "%c" %i %m
[05:24] <Xera> i guess
[05:25] <stdin> JP_P_home: xerox seem to have a driver for linux http://www.support.xerox.com/go/getfile.asp?Xlang=en_US&XCntry=USA&objid=58350&EULA=0&prodID=6110&Family=Phaser&ripId=&langs=English%20(US)&plats=Linux&Xtype=download&uType=
[05:25] <higi_> Xera that doesnt seem to work
[05:25] <higi_> oh
[05:25] <higi_> i have root access now
[05:25] <higi_> yes
[05:25] <higi_> thanks
[05:25] <Xera> np
[05:26] <chuen> stdin: Can you remember whether you set the udp to be the same as tcp (looks like you did). BTW, I was looking at PID's :)
[05:26] <higi_> why doesnt it work normally?
[05:26] <mineur> any idea where I have to look to fix my screensaver? somehow some elements are coming through a gl screensaver, and when I pick a non gl screensaver it stops moving...
[05:26] <stdin> I'm only going to say this once....
[05:26] <stdin> DON'T use sudo for GUI apps
[05:26] <stdin> use kdesu
[05:26] <JP_P_home> stdin> i donwload it hopping it will work better than the one on their cd
[05:26] <stdin> chuen: I just left everything to the defaults :)
[05:27] <chuen> stdin: Do you use a router?
[05:27] <stdin> chuen: this PC is the router for my network, so kinda yes, kinda no :P
[05:27] <chuen> stdin: OK :)
[05:28] <stdin> chuen: but the modem is connected directly, so, for what you're asking, no
[05:28] <Xera> screw j00
[05:28] <Xera> XD
[05:28] <Xera> gksudo won't install here, so i have to
[05:28] <chuen> stdb: OK, I have a linksys router too ...
[05:29] <chuen> stdin: Back to the drawing board I guess ..
[05:29] <stdin> chuen: as long as you set it to forward the ports, it shouldn't matter
[05:30] <chuen> stdin: That's what I figured (worked in Windoze with emule). OK, I'll have another look / think.
[05:32] <JP_P_home> stdin> i think i understand this is for 6110 i have 6110n (with network support) may driver must be different if you plug a printer in usb or on your lan ?
[05:33] <stdin> JP_P_home: I don't have that printer, I just searched for the driver
[05:33] <JP_P_home> stdin> yes i understood
[05:34] <stdin> JP_P_home: the only 2 I found are these http://tinyurl.com/y4j54j
[05:36] <balint> hi i have a problem appeared and its very annoying!! the music playback started to scratch, its like when your speakers are above the max
[05:36] <balint> but the sound is good in win
[05:36] <sinbad33> sounds like clipping
[05:36] <kosmo> i have a problem to
[05:37] <BluesKaj> yup, overloading the spkr inputs
[05:37] <balint> ok and where can i change that?
[05:37] <sinbad33> often due to too high input level
[05:37] <balint> i didnt change anything, it strate to sctacth itself
[05:37] <BluesKaj> mixer
[05:38] <kosmo> in my boot manger i have 2 systems and when i click on my linux its say connot mount this system how i can change the mount point for the boot manger its grub
[05:38] <kosmo> ?
[05:39] <stdin> kosmo: grub settings are in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:39] <kosmo> ok
[05:39] <balint> mixer didnt resolve my problem, it scratches... :(
[05:40] <balint> it scratches at the low sounds, (bass for example), but at any volume...
[05:41] <balint> tried amarok and xmms-too
[05:41] <chuen> stdin: Apart from different port numbers, I compared my netstats to yours and they're the same (tcp is listening).
[05:42] <chuen> stdin: Can I upload a quck paste  for you to glance at?
[05:42] <dyegov> Hi, I would like someone to helo me with my resolution problem. I want to have my monitor on 1024x786 but the option is not there. I have done it before changing the Horizontal and Vert something in the xorg.conf file, but I do not remember . . .
[05:42] <stdin> chuen: sure
[05:42] <LjL> Ubotu, tell dyegov about fixres | dyegov, see the private message from Ubotu
[05:43] <stdin> !xconfig | dyegov
[05:43] <ubotu> dyegov: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". To configure only the driver and resolution, type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh".
[05:43] <BluesKaj> balint, which volume control are you adjusting , the mixer  or the speaker system
[05:43] <BluesKaj> ?
[05:43] <kosmo> hi somone can tell me how to install windwos fonts in kubuntu
[05:43] <kosmo> ?
[05:43] <Dr_willis> !find mstcore
[05:43] <dyegov> thanks
[05:43] <balint> BluesKaj: the mixer ofcourse
[05:43] <LjL> !fonts | kosmo
[05:43] <ubotu> Package/file mstcore does not exist in edgy
[05:43] <ubotu> kosmo: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[05:43] <Dr_willis> !find fonts
[05:43] <ubotu> Found: gsfonts, gsfonts-x11, latex-xft-fonts, ttf-arphic-bkai00mp, ttf-arphic-bsmi00lp (and 123 others)
[05:43] <kosmo> thanks
[05:43] <Dr_willis> msttcorefonts  - is the pacakge to install
[05:43] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:44] <dyegov> That is exactly what I was looking for, thanks a lot
[05:44] <waveler> how can i set up 5.1 configuration in kubuntu?
[05:44] <BluesKaj> turn doen the mixer to about 60% then crank your spkrs up with it's volume cntrl
[05:44] <dyegov> Can someone tell me if EasyUbuntu works on Kububtu and how do I install it?
[05:44] <chuen> stdin: It's OK, it's working (I think ) ...hang on ...
[05:44] <Dr_willis> waveler,  i just use the alsamixer or other mixer to mirror the front to rear speakers.
[05:44] <Dr_willis> dyegov,   best to avoide easyubuntu and DEfiniatly avoide automatix
[05:45] <waveler> how can i access alsamixer?
[05:45] <balint> BluesKaj: now i turned on the EQ in amarok and now the scratch is very-very little, it almost cannot be heared... but I'm maximalist in sounds, and I can still discover a little scratch :(
[05:45] <stdin> dyegov: don't use it, it can damage your system and is not reccommended or supported
[05:45] <dyegov> Why? I need to plat mp3s, dvds etc
[05:45] <chuen> stdin: Yes! It's connected to a server OK .... not sure about KAD yet though.
[05:45] <LjL> Ubotu, tell dyegov about codecs | dyegov, see the private message from Ubotu
[05:45] <Dr_willis> dyegov,  you can easially install that stuff without a script that may do all sorts of OTHER things.
[05:45] <LjL> dyegov: i'm not sure what makes you think you need easyubuntu or automatix for that
[05:45] <Dr_willis> !dvd
[05:45] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:45] <stdin> !mp3
[05:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:45] <BluesKaj> scratch is distortion...'
[05:46] <dyegov> I have tried it before and It won't play what I want
[05:46] <dyegov> and I do not want to modify a lot of files
[05:46] <yelonek> !neogui
[05:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about neogui - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:46] <stdin> waveler: just type "alsamixer" in to konsole
[05:46] <Dr_willis> set up the right repos... install the stuff with the package manager... thats not modifying a lot of files... using easyubuntu/automatix WILL modify a lot of files.
[05:47] <dyegov> and what does it do to my comp gthat could be that badP?
[05:47] <stdin> !automatix
[05:47] <snowrichard> hi
[05:47] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:47] <chuen> stdin: D'you kow how I get Kad going (or do you have a URL you can point me to)?
[05:47] <kosmo> !flash
[05:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:48] <dyegov> !WorksForMe
[05:48] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[05:48] <dyegov> Ok, thanks, bye
[05:48] <Dr_willis> I tend to just set up the severas repositories.. and apt-get install the stuff
[05:49] <JP_P_home> stdin> if i try the software that is given by xerox to add my printer to cups it says "add-printer failed : client-error-not-authorized
[05:49] <stdin> JP_P_home: try in administrator mode
[05:49] <kosmo> !fonts
[05:49] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[05:49] <JP_P_home> stdin> it was in root
[05:50] <balint> BluesKaj: hmm... with amaroks EQ its okay now i think... but only xmms and amarok is for music? isnt something audiophile for linux? :)
[05:50] <stdin> chuen: I've got no idea, I haven't actually used it before, just installed amule to look at  it
[05:50] <chuen> stdin: OK, I'll find some forums..
[05:50] <chuen> stdin: Time for a beer and dinner anyhow ;)
[05:50] <stdin> chuen: it's always time for a beer :)
[05:51] <snowrichard> got one Heinekin in the fridge
[05:51] <chuen> stdin: LOL. I think you've probably earned cratefulls , judging on the help you give here :)
[05:51] <chuen> stdin: thx & ttyl
[05:51] <stdin> chuen: see ya later :)
[05:52] <chuen> stdin: Used to drink pints of that stuff, haven't had one for years ... love it though.
[05:52] <stdin> can't beet guinness :P
[05:53] <BluesKaj> balint, what kind of sound card  /
[05:53] <BluesKaj> ?
[05:53] <JP_P_home> stdin> in normal use mode there is no option to add a printer
[05:54] <stdin> JP_P_home: there is when I open System Settings as a normal user
[05:54] <balint> BluesKaj: motherboard card (nforce4).  (But soon im planning to buy an Audigy 2)
[05:55] <balint> BluesKaj: Audigy has more (and more clear) BASS :D
[05:55] <JP_P_home> stdin> in the kde pannel but  not in the pannel given with the dirvers
[05:55] <stdin> sinbad33: wooh :D
[05:56] <sinbad33> woot wooT
[05:56] <binks> anyone no of a good app for printing onto cds ie labeling
[05:56] <BluesKaj> what spkr system are you using ... I presume you are using an outboard HiFi amplifier with HiFi speakers
[05:57] <h3sp4wn> balint: audigy's suck for listening to music
[05:58] <BluesKaj> balint, and mp3 doesn't qualify as Hi Fi...maybe Wav, FLAC or other lossless codecs but not MP3
[05:58] <h3sp4wn> balint: if you have a 44100 file or cd then it is resampled (badly) in hardware to 48000 so it sounds crap
[05:59] <h3sp4wn> If everything was 48000 files it could sound ok
[05:59] <snowrichard> I used to work on an aircraft carrier I know I can't
[06:00] <Dr_willis> Factory worker here... i do wear my earplugs every day
[06:00] <h3sp4wn> You really can tell the difference on decent speakers
[06:01] <Dr_willis> will my Kenny. G. sound that much better! :)
[06:02] <kosmo> where the sources file in ubuntu
[06:02] <kosmo> ?
[06:02] <h3sp4wn> kosmo: /etc/apt
[06:03] <balint> So than what soundcard are you reccomending for listening to music? i dont have much money, thats why I only got a Creative speaker system (and it sounds very good!)
[06:04] <balint> (if I had money, than I would have X-Fi maybe...)
[06:04] <snowrichard> hate these clouds my sirius keeps cutting out
[06:04] <sinbad33> clouds?
[06:05] <snowrichard> as in rain
[06:05] <Tm_T> balint: Anything that works, plastic speakers won't be any better no matter what soundcard you have.
[06:05] <BluesKaj> mp3 by satellite ... whynot get it free from streamtuner ?
[06:06] <Tm_T> balint: And as long as it's ok to you, no need to care about hifi.
[06:07] <stonedragon12>  (@)
[06:08] <balint> Tm_T: so you say, that with a new soundcard, the sound would be the same as now?
[06:09] <BluesKaj> I listen to strems on my Home Theater system which uses a Harman Kardon Receiever and paradigm 5.1 speaker system (not ultra HiFi) but acceptably good sound and MP3 sounds only ok even at 320kbps
[06:09] <BluesKaj> daughter has some mp3 disks that I tried out
[06:10] <animimotus> hi
[06:10] <Azzco> I've got a display problem. I'm trying to configure xorg.conf but I have no idea what it is about.
[06:10] <Dr_willis> x-fi isent supported under linux yet is it?
[06:11] <ubuntu__> hi, im using the live cd to install kubuntu. i selected to create the partition table myself and im now wondering if my windows partition will be still there after i select the swap and linux partition i ve created before?
[06:12] <Tido> for some reason, my synaptics touchpad has stopped working
[06:12] <Tido> my xorg.conf has it enabled
[06:12] <sinbad33> what the heck is 'focus stealing prevention' mean ?
[06:12] <Tido> and has SHMconfig "on"
[06:12] <Tido> but any changes brings an error message that SHMconfig isn't available
[06:13] <animimotus> I have a friend who have only Windows (sure, could he stay a friend with such OS :p) so he don't know pgp and decrypt a file. I ask if I can use somethings like a zip with a simply password ? I haven't found the option in ark
[06:14] <LjL> animimotus: i don't know if you can do it with ark, but you certainly can do it with the plain 'zip' command
[06:15] <animimotus> oh, a man zip of course :)
[06:15] <Tm_T> balint: Well, I doubt, small plastic speakers will sound like small plastic speakers. ;)
[06:17] <Tm_T> balint: I bought new soundcard myself, well, didn't improve sound much but atleast I got 24bit HW. :(
[06:18] <Tm_T> balint: But this is offtopic so I quit now.
[06:18] <sinbad33> *huggies*
[06:20] <sinbad33> does anyone know how i can save the view-detail setting in Konqueror file mgr ??
[06:21] <balint> Tm_T: ok. well i think, than untill i wont have enough money, i remain at MB soundcard...:(
[06:21] <sinbad33> i hate having to repeatedly set my darn 'view' to 'detailed' each time i want to look at my directories etc
[06:22] <Azzco> Okay I've got some massiv display problems here... the backup of xorh.conf didn't help at all
[06:22] <Azzco> Can somsone help me reconfigure?
[06:23] <ranjan> hello
[06:24] <visitor> hey
[06:24] <Azzco> Okay no help I'll look at more of the backups then...
[06:24] <stdin> Azzco: Settings -> Save View Profile "Kubuntu File Manager"
[06:24] <Azzco> stdin: in where?
[06:25] <ranjan> any one join my room
[06:25] <stdin> Azzco: in konqueror, after you change the view mode
[06:26] <sinbad33> room?
[06:26] <Azzco> stdin: I'm talking about display, I'm on 640x320 atm I thnk
[06:26] <stdin> ahh, sorry :P, hold on a sec Azzco
[06:27] <sinbad33> stdin, is it even possible to save my Konqueror file mgr view-detailed setting ?
[06:27] <Azzco> Oh okay :)
[06:27] <stdin> sinbad33:  Settings -> Save View Profile "Kubuntu File Manager"
[06:27] <sinbad33> ahh ok i try that
[06:28] <sinbad33> haha
[06:28] <sinbad33> thx stdin
[06:28] <stdin> :)
[06:29] <sinbad33> least u dont got dislecsia (like me)
[06:30] <stdin> no, I just don't pay enough attention to what I'm doing :)
[06:43] <balint> Hi again. how can i change the size of the icons on the wholw tray?
[06:43] <stdin> wholw tray?
[06:43] <balint> whole :)
[06:44] <balint> cause i only could change the size, by changing the size of the entire tray...
[06:44] <balint> But now the tasks are shown only in one line, but i would need two lines for the tasks, but than the icons are bigger too :(
[06:46] <stdin> balint: hmm, don't know :P they should know in #kde tho
[06:46] <Jucato> what's the problem?
[06:46] <kosmo> 
[06:46] <tejedor> hey you
[06:46] <balint> Jucato. do you know how to change th icon size on the tray, without making smaller the enitre tray? (panel..)
[06:47] <Jucato> balint: um... the icons on the system tray? no. their size is set, afaik...
[06:47] <tejedor> i got a problem with installing my nvidia graphic card
[06:49] <balint> tejedor: and whats the problem exactly?
[06:49] <tejedor> i tried what the wiki says sudo nvidia-glx-config enable ... but it's not working, it says it doesn't know the command
[06:49] <balint> tejedor: cause the config is in the glx packet now..
[06:49] <spitwise> oh man kosmo i can see that font in konsole. kewl.
[06:50] <tejedor> uh huh ...
[06:50] <balint> tejedor: after sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx, just change in xorg.conf under device, the driver from nv to nvidia
[06:50] <Jucato> actually, it's safer to "sudo nvidia-xconfig" than to manually edit xorg.conf in this case
[06:51] <balint> Jucato: sudo nvidia-xconfig brings up a grapich interface?
[06:51] <Jucato> nope
[06:51] <Jucato> it just automatically changes your xorg.conf
[06:51] <Jucato> to default nvidia settings
[06:52] <tejedor> mhh it seems to be working :)
[06:52] <sinbad33> darn it my screen resolution keeps RESETting  what the heck
[06:53] <stdin> sinbad33: have you changed the settings in xorg.conf ?
[06:54] <h3sp4wn> stdin: make sure you have Load "glx" - don't have Load "dri" - set Driver "nvidia"
[06:54] <sinbad33> stdin, not that i know of
[06:54] <stdin> h3sp4wn: why are you telling me that?
[06:55] <h3sp4wn> stdin: why not ?
[06:55] <h3sp4wn> (bad tab completion)
[06:55] <balint> and now if we are at display problems, I have one too: my monitor doesnt support 85Hz in 1280. i changed res to 1024, but I cant set the refresh to 85Hz...
[06:55] <stdin> h3sp4wn: heh :)
[06:55] <stdin> sinbad33: have you use the command to reconfigure the xserver ?
[06:55] <tejedor> uhm and how do I make the whole thing working after all ? it still says graphics-card N/A ... but the driver's nvidia now
[06:55] <balint> its funny cause, when i put my res to 1024, than the 85Hz option was enabled.. :D
[06:56] <archangel_> hey, Keytouch rocks!!
[06:56] <balint> tejedor: did you restart X?
[06:56] <stdin> archangel_: yep, it does :)
[06:56] <archangel_> it lets you program your own buttons on your keyboard
[06:56] <tejedor> X ? the window manager you mean ?
[06:56] <balint> whats keytouch?
[06:56] <balint> tejedor: X is the graphic interface
[06:56] <stdin> !keytouch
[06:56] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[06:57] <stdin> !info keytouch
[06:57] <ubotu> keytouch: A program to configure the extra function keys of the keyboard. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.1-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 412 kB, installed size 1824 kB
[06:57] <tejedor> how do i restart it ?
[06:57] <sinbad33> server? i dont think so... unless the disk image server program i tried unsuccessfully to install yestrdy is involved
[06:57] <balint> oh this keytouch is what i need man!!!!!!!! im gone to download!! :D
[06:57] <balint> tejedor: ctrl-alt-backspace
[06:57] <sinbad33> should i try to edit xconf file then or ?
[06:58] <balint> tejedor: after that you wil have to login again..
[06:58] <stdin> sinbad33: no, don't edit it by hand, unless you are a rocket scientist :P
[06:58] <balint> tejedor: so save any work you are working on
[06:58] <h3sp4wn> Does it need your keyboard to have a seperate driver for the multimedia keys
[06:58] <stdin> sinbad33: use this command in konsole "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[06:58] <balint> anyone knows something about this reoslution problem?
[06:58] <sinbad33> ok
[06:58] <h3sp4wn> (there is one for my keyboard using simple hid)
[06:58] <stdin> sinbad33: opps. that's "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh"
[06:59] <tejedor> ok
[06:59] <stdin> sinbad33: no '' sign :P
[06:59] <tejedor> i did it but still n/a
[06:59] <ScarFreewill> !guarddog
[06:59] <ubotu> guarddog: firewall configuration utility for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 476 kB, installed size 1424 kB
[06:59] <balint> stdin: -phigh is supposed to be after reconfigure no?
[06:59] <stdin> balint: it actually doesn't matter :)
[06:59] <balint> stdin: ok :D
[07:00] <ScarFreewill> can some one tell me where guarddog's logs are stored?
[07:00] <balint> stdin: any resolution solution? :D
[07:00] <stdin> balint: refresh rates ?
[07:00] <Aeth> greetings all
[07:00] <andreasw> hi
[07:01] <sinbad33> ahh ok
[07:01] <h3sp4wn> ScarFreewill: iptables logs to /var/log/kern.log unless its using ULOG in which case I don't know
[07:01] <Aeth> does anyone know how to change the volume step on the keyboard shortcut volume controls in KDE 3.5? (kubuntu)
[07:01] <Aeth> in other words... when I press my volume up button on my keyboard... I'd like to change the amount it changes by
[07:01] <specialbuddy1> how do I get xgl or beryl installed on kubuntu?
[07:02] <ScarFreewill> h3sp4wn: it looks like its there thx
[07:02] <balint> stdin: yepp
[07:02] <stdin> !beryl | specialbuddy1
[07:02] <ubotu> specialbuddy1: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:02] <DrNickRiviera> i'm currently running dapper and want to upgrade to edgy, should i reinstall the system, or does upgrading it using apt-get as described on the website work reliably?
[07:02] <specialbuddy1> 
[07:02] <balint> stdin: cant select 85Hz in 1024
[07:02] <balint> stdin: shoul i edit xorg.conf again? :)
[07:02] <stdin> balint: I'm thinking you need some modlines, you need to reconfigure the server again
[07:03] <DrNickRiviera> am a bit worried about doing it, as i upgraded a fedora system once and broke it, after which i was told i should never try to run the upgrade, but always reinstall
[07:03] <ScarFreewill> anotherquestion... how can i phone my self from kphone to gmail2voip?
[07:03] <stdin> balint: on the section about your monitor, I think you need to choose "medium", then choose the resolution and refresh rate it uses
[07:03] <sinbad33> stdin, debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/cer process
[07:04] <stdin> huh?
[07:04] <sinbad33> thats wat i get
[07:04] <stdin> sinbad33: did you type it right ?
[07:04] <sinbad33> i pasted it
[07:04] <sinbad33> the last line u told me
[07:04] <esaym> how the heck do I make torrents with ktorrent?
[07:05] <stdin> sinbad33: hmm, never seen that before
[07:05] <sinbad33> oops. looks like the line i pasted might have truncated
[07:05] <esaym> or just making a torrent in general
[07:05] <sinbad33> guess i'll type it in by hand
[07:06] <tejedor> hmm my graphics card is still not working
[07:07] <paulcarpenter> is there some way that I can chose not to see the Grub thingumy unless I chose to?
[07:07] <sinbad33> stdin, i get the same message
[07:07] <paulcarpenter> like, by hitting a button during boot
[07:07] <Jucato> paulcarpenter: look for the "hidden" option in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:07] <Jucato> uncomment it. you won't see the menu unless you press Esc
[07:08] <paulcarpenter> thanks
[07:08] <stdin> sinbad33: hmm, try again: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[07:08] <balint> stdin: nowhere to select medium, but i found out that i can select the monitor type ... now i found my monitor, i hope it will work
[07:08] <sinbad33> k
[07:09] <stdin> balint: hope so too :)
[07:09] <jimmie> is it possible to chance an icon of a link on my desktop ?
[07:09] <jimmie> change
[07:09] <sinbad33> same output :(
[07:09] <sinbad33> maybe i got a virus?
[07:10] <stdin> jimmie: yeah, just right click it, click properties, then click on the icon in the properties window to change it
[07:10] <stdin> sinbad33: no, you don't have a virus :P
[07:10] <stdin> sinbad33: you're on linux, remember
[07:10] <jimmie> easy... thanks a lot
[07:10] <stdin> ;)
[07:11] <matthew> ok, I'm ssh'ing into my headless server right now...I was wondering how many times I may login as the same user?
[07:11] <ScarFreewill> how can I phone to a gmail user ? should i look like this sil:user@gmail.com?
[07:11] <matthew> in the same session...different tabs, you see
[07:11] <stdin> matthew: afaik, as many times as you want
[07:12] <matthew> I'm surprised that doesn't cause some kind of problem...hmmm...great, thanks a lot, stdin
[07:12] <balint> stdin: selecting the correct monitor resolved it!! yipppy :D
[07:12] <stdin> balint: great :)
[07:13] <n0ne> heyal
[07:13] <n0ne> i have a problem with sound, it's just not working, i'm using RealPlayer and it says that audio device is maybe used by another program
[07:13] <JOSF> Hello, I am seeking for a powerful media-player, but not Kaffeine, Amarok or Juk.
[07:14] <ScarFreewill> if I phone form kphone tells me "Call Failed: Forbidden (Outbound Proxy Policy)"
[07:14] <Aeth> I'm running KDE 3.5 on Kubuntu 6.10. Can someone tell me how to alter the amount the volume slider changes when I press my keyboard volume controls... I'd like to reduce this amount so that the volume changes by less when I press the buttons. any pointers?
[07:14] <matthew> !xmms | JOSF
[07:14] <ubotu> JOSF: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[07:14] <matthew> I prefer XMMS
[07:15] <matthew> light and fast...plays all kinds of formats
[07:15] <JOSF> matthew: Thank you.
[07:15] <waveler> can someone help me install ALSA?
[07:15] <blekos> can anyone pls tell me how i can change the login screen
[07:15] <Wulong> What is kubuntu's default x.org driver when installing it with ATi cards?
[07:15] <JOSF> I like Amarok, but I hate the way of its media-library
[07:15] <adaptr> blekos: go to system -> admin -> login
[07:15] <JOSF> I mean, when I double-click an item in the media-lib it gets added to the playlist instead bheing played
[07:15] <matthew> np
[07:15] <JOSF> And I never use any Playlists
[07:16] <stdin> sinbad33: is the message "debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process" ?
[07:17] <blekos> thnx, kde is very powerful, but too many features for a newbie... gnome is more knitty
[07:17] <blekos> but i stick to KDE
[07:17] <blekos> :)
[07:19] <sinbad33> stdin, yes
[07:19] <waveler> anyone how to install alsa
[07:19] <waveler> ?
[07:19] <ScarFreewill> how can you not have it...?
[07:20] <waveler> i mean alsamixer
[07:20] <ScarFreewill> !alsamixer
[07:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alsamixer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:20] <waveler> i want to have a 5.1 setup
[07:20] <stdin> sinbad33: what dose "fuser -v /var/cahce/debconf/config.dat" show ?
[07:21] <_tsdgeos>  apt-file search alsamixer
[07:21] <_tsdgeos> alsa-utils: usr/bin/alsamixer
[07:21] <stdin> alsamixer should be installed alredy
[07:21] <waveler> wait i'm new in this system
[07:22] <felipe__> Is there something like seahorse for KDE?
[07:22] <matthew> !seahorse
[07:22] <ubotu> seahorse: A Gnome front end for GnuPG. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.5-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1560 kB, installed size 5528 kB
[07:22] <stdin> !kgpg
[07:22] <ubotu> kgpg: GnuPG frontend for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 445 kB, installed size 1404 kB
[07:22] <sinbad33> stdin, Cannot stat /var/cahce/debconf/config.dat: No such file or directory
[07:22] <matthew> felipe, you can install seahorse in kubuntu
[07:22] <ScarFreewill> waveler: are you runing edgy?
[07:22] <matthew> you just need all the libs
[07:22] <juano__> can anyone hel pme with kmail? i dont know why when i try to send mail it does absolutely nothing
[07:22] <Aeth> I'm running KDE 3.5 on Kubuntu 6.10. Can someone tell me how to alter the amount the volume slider changes when I press my keyboard volume controls... I'd like to reduce this amount so that the volume changes by less when I press the buttons. any pointers?
[07:23] <ScarFreewill> waveler: i've got alsamixer on default...
[07:23] <waveler> 6.10 kubuntu
[07:23] <felipe__> matthew: I know but I'll rather install a KDE program
[07:23] <matthew> oh.
[07:23] <stdin> sinbad33: small type there "fuser -v /var/cache/debconf/config.dat"
[07:23] <matthew> I don't know then...sorry
[07:23] <waveler> 6.10 is edgy right?
[07:23] <matthew> felipe, what does seahorse do?
[07:23] <matthew> waveler, yep
[07:24] <stdin> felipe__: kgpg is what you want
[07:24] <juano__> can anyone hel pme with kmail? i dont know why when i try to send mail it does absolutely nothing
[07:24] <ScarFreewill> waveler: press Alt+F2 then type "konsole" then type alsa mixer
[07:24] <waveler> how come i can't access alsamixer?
[07:24] <ScarFreewill> waveler: *then type alsamixer
[07:24] <matthew> bye y'all
[07:24] <JOSF> When I installed Kubuntu Kaffeine was set to the XINE component. I installed the MPlayer KPart, which automatically added it to Kaffeine as an option. Then I chose that one from the menu. Now I do not get back the Xine one in the Kaffeine menu. I mean, it is not there anymore. Any ideas ?
[07:24] <ScarFreewill> cya
[07:24] <hyper_ch> hiho, when I do a ls -al, what does a "S" mean?   -r-Sr--r-- 1 root root 19374 2007-01-13 19:20 /usr/lib/libvmdsp.so
[07:25] <waveler> i have it already in my screen
[07:25] <sinbad33> stdin, ok now i just get the $ prompt
[07:25] <waveler> what shouldi  do next?
[07:25] <ScarFreewill> waveler: whats it?
[07:25] <stdin> hyper_ch: set GID, look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_permissions
[07:26] <waveler> huh?
[07:26] <hyper_ch> stdin: thx
[07:26] <juano__> yes... got it working at last
[07:26] <ScarFreewill> waveler: "i have it already in my screen"
[07:26] <stdin> sinbad33: what about "lsof /var/cache/debconf/config.dat" ?
[07:26] <waveler> i also have it now in the screen
[07:27] <ScarFreewill> waveler: "i have it already in my screen" what is it?
[07:27] <waveler> how will i configure it to 5.1?
[07:28] <Lynoure> waveler: What is the "it" in that question?
[07:29] <waveler> how can i make this to 6 channel?
[07:30] <LjL> ...
[07:30] <waveler> in the display it says xxxxxxx-ICH4
[07:30] <waveler> in the display it says xxxxxxx-ICH4 (alsamixer)
[07:31] <Lynoure> ah.
[07:31] <Lynoure> So the 5.1 was speakers, not a version number :)
[07:32] <waveler> yes
[07:32] <waveler> the version no. is 1,0,11
[07:34] <ScarFreewill> waveler: y don't u use kmix?
[07:34] <waveler> i can only here sounds from the front speakers
[07:34] <sinbad33> stdin, same output, $
[07:35] <ScarFreewill> waveler: or a other app one of us know how to use...
[07:35] <stdin> sinbad33: hmm, it should work then, give it another go
[07:35] <sinbad33> k
[07:35] <sinbad33> it only gives me the $ prompt
[07:35] <sinbad33> one line down, ofcourse
[07:36] <ScarFreewill> waveler: like for eg. go to kmix and to the switch tab set your channels...
[07:36] <waveler> i really find it difficult to configure this system
[07:36] <stdin> sinbad33: no, I meant the dpkg... command
[07:36] <waveler> i change it already to 6 channels
[07:36] <sinbad33> ahh k
[07:36] <waveler> but still i can't here sounds from the rear speakers
[07:36] <Lynoure> I have used alsamixer plenty of times but never 5.1 speakers (never found a place to put the one at the back)
[07:37] <sinbad33> stdin, same as before, it asks for my pw, then outputs: "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[07:38] <stdin> sinbad33: try "sudo lsof|grep /var/cache/debconf/config.dat" this time
[07:38] <sinbad33> k
[07:38] <waveler> ScarFreewill so it means i can't use 5.1 speakers with this system?
[07:38] <sinbad33> stdin, dpkg-reco 4427       root    4rW     REG        3,2   37070     263245 /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[07:39] <ScarFreewill> waveler: i'm not sure :P
[07:39] <stdin> sinbad33: ok, now we're getting somewhere :)
[07:39] <Lynoure> waveler: there is a related bug with totem, at least: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/64256
[07:39] <sinbad33> haha ok good :))
[07:39] <stdin> sinbad33: do: sudo kill -9 4427
[07:39] <sinbad33> k
[07:40] <sinbad33> now it gives me the $ prompt
[07:40] <firecrotch> Okay, so I'm having some SSH trouble
[07:40] <stdin> sinbad33: now do the dpkg-reconfigure command again
[07:40] <sinbad33> k
[07:40] <waveler> Lynoure tnx for that info
[07:41] <waveler> so its bugged
[07:41] <zver> pozdrav
[07:41] <stdin> what type of trouble firecrotch ?
[07:41] <zver> i dan my problem
[07:41] <firecrotch> When I try to use SSH to connect to my website's server, I get a huge error, saying that the remote host's identification has changed
[07:41] <felipe__> Adept Udater wants to remove the nvidia-glx package....anyone know why?
[07:41] <sinbad33> stdin, ok now it gives me the Configuring xserver-xorg menu
[07:42] <firecrotch> "Add correct host key in /home/nick/.ssh/known_hosts to get rid of this message.
[07:42] <firecrotch> Offending key in /home/nick/.ssh/known_hosts:3"
[07:42] <jimmie> Is the lame mp3 codec already included in the KAudioCreator, or do I have to download and install it ?!
[07:42] <stdin> firecrotch: just remove the 3rd lime in /home/nick/.ssh/known_hosts
[07:42] <firecrotch> stdin: thanks
[07:42] <stdin> :)
[07:42] <sinbad33> stdin,
[07:42] <sinbad33> For the X Window System graphical user           
[07:42] <sinbad33>   interface to operate correctly, it is necessary  
[07:42] <sinbad33>   to select a video card driver for the X server.
[07:42] <Dr_Willis_Laptop> firecrotch,  you could remove that  key in that file - its warning you that somthing may be cracked/hacked/changed
[07:42] <sinbad33> oops
[07:43] <Dr_Willis_Laptop> firecrotch,  i get that if i reinstall/change the ssh keys on my servers
[07:43] <stdin> sinbad33: yes?
[07:43] <Lynoure> waveler: not necessarily, the bug is not confirmed and the reporter did get sound from all speakers from mplayer
[07:44] <firecrotch> Dr_Willis_Laptop: thanks, I wasn't sure what it meant, the huge warning said that someone may be trying a man-in-the-middle attack
[07:44] <sinbad33> ok im using onboard video chip on a gigabyte mobo
[07:44] <Dr_Willis_Laptop> firecrotch,  yep its a warning.
[07:44] <sinbad33> stdin, how do i find out which video chip im using?
[07:44] <stdin> sinbad33: it should already have the default highlighted
[07:45] <Dr_Willis_Laptop> if you are on a local lan.. not really an issue.. if you were connecting to the  Mainframe at work... welll...
[07:45] <Lynoure> waveler: this is a bit complicated and I have not tried it, but it could help you: http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~bondhugu/alsamch.shtml
[07:45] <firecrotch> Dr_Willis_Laptop: I'm trying to connect to my dedicated web server
[07:46] <waveler> i'll try it,thanks
[07:46] <firecrotch> Now I get " The authenticity of host 'xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx. (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx)' can't be established."
[07:46] <firecrotch> Is that normal?
[07:46] <Dr_Willis_Laptop> firecrotch,  if you just insatlled it.. the ssh keys may of changed and its rembering the old key/ip/info so its flagging a warning
[07:46] <firecrotch> Alrighty
[07:46] <Dr_Willis_Laptop> ssh tries to be very paranoid about this stuff. :)
[07:46] <stdin> firecrotch: yes, because you removed it from the file, after you connect it won't be shown again
[07:47] <firecrotch> Well well well, apparently the password has been changed too.   Probably the techs at the hosting company screwed something up
[07:47] <sinbad33> stdin, ok, it asked me now for the resolution, i picked 1280x
[07:48] <stdin> sinbad33: yeah, just check all the ones you want to be able to use
[07:48] <Lynoure> firecrotch: or, alternatively, some wrong computer is pretending to be that one )
[07:49] <sebbar> is there some linux program that lets you pick the color of a picture and gives back the normalized rgb values?
[07:49] <sinbad33> xserver-xorg postinst warning: not updating /etc/X11/X; file has been customized
[07:49] <Aeth> I'm running KDE 3.5 on Kubuntu 6.10. Can someone tell me how to alter the amount the volume slider changes when I press my keyboard volume controls... I'd like to reduce this amount so that the volume changes by less when I press the buttons. any pointers?
[07:49] <sinbad33> stdin, xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20070113144642
[07:49] <Lynoure> firecrotch: You could call the techs and ask, to be on the safe side.
[07:49] <sinbad33> stdin, so now i guess i should reboot ?
[07:50] <stdin> sinbad33: that's ok, no, just restart X, no need to reboot
[07:50] <sinbad33> restart x?
[07:50] <sinbad33> hmm
[07:50] <Wulong> How can I restore xorg.conf from when I installed Kubuntu? I want exactly those settings.
[07:50] <kosmo> can someone tell me what the skim program doing
[07:50] <kosmo> ?
[07:50] <stdin> sinbad33: Logout, then choose "Restart the X server" from the menu on the Login screen
[07:50] <LeeJunFan> Wulong: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:51] <sinbad33> stdin, ahh ok thx
[07:51] <stdin> Wulong: use sudo before it
[07:51] <LeeJunFan> Wulong: probably sudo dpkg-reconfigure -p critical xserver-xorg is better
[07:51] <stdin> sinbad33: no problem :)
[07:51] <mundisko> hi all
[07:51] <LeeJunFan> Wulong: -p critical will ask you less questions (possibly none)
[07:51] <Wulong> That is not the problem, because I don't know which driver. vesa/ati laggs when scrolling.
[07:51] <Wulong> fglrx don't seem to work.
[07:52] <mundisko> does anyone know how to configure s-video on intel i910 card ?
[07:52] <mundisko> on kubuntu
[07:53] <Zaggynl> Hi, anyone knows how I make a playable DVD out of a VIDEO_TS folder (with vobs) in k3b?
[07:54] <Dr_Willis_Laptop> ive just copied the folder to a dvd and its played (i think)
[07:54] <Zaggynl> hmm
[07:54] <Zaggynl> ah sweet
[07:54] <Zaggynl> wizard
[07:54] <Zaggynl> <3
[07:54] <stdin> Zaggynl: in k3b just choose "File -> New Project -> New Video DVD preject"
[07:54] <Zaggynl> yah, superb
[07:54] <Dr_Willis_Laptop> that all that seems tohappen with nero also. it generates a folder with the files.. then ya copy that folder to a dvd.
[07:54] <Dr_Willis_Laptop> i dont mess with dvds much however
[07:55] <Zaggynl> btw, how do I add the hdparm option from http://k3b.plainblack.com/faq to autostart in ubuntu dapper?
[07:55] <kosmo> !flash
[07:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:55] <stdin> Zaggynl: add them to /etc/hdparm.conf
[07:55] <sinbad33> stdin, had to reboot but it worked, atleast i hope it sticks :))
[07:55] <Zaggynl> ah okay
[07:56] <sinbad33> thx again stdin..  u = da M a N
[07:56] <kosmo> how i add option
[07:56] <kosmo> to k3b
[07:56] <kosmo> to burning mp3 files
[07:56] <kosmo> ?
[07:56] <stdin> sinbad33: heh, no problem :)
[07:56] <Shaezsche> for some reason myl aptop boots much faster when i am running on battery mode. also, cpu clocking doesnt work properly if im plugged in. any ideas?
[07:56] <lotusleaf> Do I need to install ntp-server in order to have ntpd running? It would only be for keeping one system up to date. (I don't want to use ntpdate) The Ubuntu Wiki says all you need to install is ntp-simple but that's not true, ntpd doesn't run (but it exists) and the .conf file mentioned doesn't exist.
[07:56] <Dr_Willis_Laptop> the KUBUNTU faq mentions what packages are needed to get k3b to burn mp3s to audio cd format
[07:58] <stdin> kosmo: you need "libxine-extracodecs" from multiverse
[07:58] <jimmie> can anyone tell me... where do i get the lame codec for my KAudioCreator ? Any Idea?
[07:58] <Dr_Willis_Laptop> !info lame
[07:58] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB
[07:58] <stdin> kosmo: look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3
[07:58] <Aeth> anyone know which file you edit to configure kmilo?
[07:58] <kosmo> i see
[07:58] <Dr_Willis_Laptop> lame is a encoder prrogram. not a 'codec'
[07:59] <jimmie> and which codec does this enc use?  ;-) isn't it called lame as well ?
[07:59] <jimmie> anyway thanks a lot
[08:03] <Zaggynl> noes
[08:04] <Zaggynl> k3b isn't reaching 16x speed
[08:04] <Zaggynl> stuck at ~4x
[08:04] <Zaggynl> BenQ 1650
[08:04] <Zaggynl> http://www.pastebin.ca/315615 <= hdparm output
[08:05] <Zaggynl> Can someone help me with this?
[08:12] <spongebob59_> .quit
[08:13] <Zaggynl> Can anyone help me with low DVD burning speeds in k3b?
[08:16] <h3sp4wn> k3b is just a gui it doesn't actually burn the cd's
[08:16] <h3sp4wn> that is done by the cli programs
[08:23] <Zaggynl> h3sp4wn, yes yes, thanks for the exactness
[08:23] <Zaggynl> I'm playing luser okay ;)
[08:24] <spitwise> hmm kgpg won't even launch for me
[08:24] <fxr_> hi what log would info about mount drives be wrote to?
[08:26] <blekos> how can i restart kde from command line (like killall gnome-panel)
[08:27] <_tsdgeos> you can kill kicker
[08:27] <_tsdgeos> but that's not restarting kde
[08:27] <fdoving> you can restart kicker with dcop too.
[08:27] <fdoving> .. i belive that would be similar to killall gnome-panel.
[08:27] <higi_> hi
[08:27] <blekos> and it is killall kicker
[08:27] <higi_> where is the control center?
[08:27] <h3sp4wn> You can do loads of stuff with dcop however the only stuff I know is what zsh tab completes
[08:28] <fdoving> higi_: kmenu -> run command -> 'kcontrol' -> run.
[08:28] <higi_> yes i know, but isnt it somewhere in the menu?
[08:28] <fdoving> higi_: no, it's replaced by system settings, in the menu.
[08:28] <h3sp4wn> dcop --user samw amarok player nowPlaying (I know that as well)
[08:28] <higi_> ah ok
[08:28] <higi_> thanks!
[08:28] <fdoving> kdcop is nice.
[08:28] <toxygene> does anyone know how to change the master wallet password?
[08:28] <fdoving> if you want an overview.
[08:29] <Zaggynl> I'm playing luser okay ;)
[08:29] <Zaggynl> Can anyone help me with low DVD burning speeds in k3b?
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> its possible its your hard drive thats not keeping up.
[08:29] <SSJ_GZ> Zaggynl:Is DMA enabled on your DVD drive and hard drive?
[08:30] <Zaggynl> lemme get you a hdparm pastebin
[08:30] <Zaggynl> http://www.pastebin.ca/315615
[08:30] <spitwise> dammit no kgpg for powerpc
[08:31] <SSJ_GZ> Zaggynl:Hmmmm ... looks OK to me.  Dunno then; sorry :/
[08:31] <Zaggynl> okay, cheers
[08:31] <fdoving> !exploit > artbird309
[08:31] <fdoving> !exploit > artbird309
[08:32] <Zaggynl> ..?
[08:32] <fdoving> artbird309: please reade the private message ubotu sendt you.
[08:35] <spitwise> another option for kmail besides kgpg?
[08:36] <manesq> Nabend
[08:38] <h3sp4wn> Seems strange that so many people don't bother upgrading router firmware so the exploit still exists
[08:40] <fdoving> h3sp4wn: i belive it's like that for anything that needs user interaction. there must be an annoying popup telling users to upgrade at once, or similar. :)
[08:40] <cloakable> How about the +++ATH0 modem exploit? :P
[08:45] <h3sp4wn> fdoving: surely being disconnected all the time would annoy you or ?
[08:45] <MaxDamage``> hey all
[08:45] <MaxDamage``> :)
[08:45] <manesq> hi ;)
[08:45] <MaxDamage``> i was wondering if anyone knows a good guitar tuner?
[08:45] <MaxDamage``> :p
[08:46] <manesq> for a real guitar or pc? :D
[08:46] <MaxDamage``> real guitar...
[08:46] <MaxDamage``> :D
[08:47] <MaxDamage``> oh
[08:47] <MaxDamage``> i mean
[08:47] <MaxDamage``> software
[08:47] <MaxDamage``> for tuning the guitar
[08:47] <MaxDamage``> that can run with kubntu
[08:47] <manesq> hehe ah I see
[08:47] <manesq> sorry I am a kubuntu newbie. 2nd time I am here on kubuntu. must check many things by myself though
[08:47] <manesq> sorry :/
[08:48] <ljubomir> which program can record input from tv card while showing it? Mencoder records nicely, but I see no video wile recording :((. Any ideas?
[08:48] <ljubomir> besides mythtv?
[08:49] <manesq> maybe LinVDR?
[08:50] <ljubomir> "We're here at digital TV, you can't use any analog TV cards."
[08:51] <ljubomir> besides, it seems its a whole distribution
[08:51] <Xera> how do i check what version of GTK i have?
[08:51] <ljubomir> cat /dev/video > file.mpg works too, but still no video while recording
[08:51] <manesq> ah ok sorry ljubomir
[08:52] <Xera> !gtk
[08:52] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of Gnome and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[08:52] <Xera> um
[08:52] <Xera> lol
[08:52] <manesq> hehe
[08:52] <Xera> how do i check the version? :(
[08:52] <Xera> !gtkversion
[08:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gtkversion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:52] <Xera> die
[08:52] <manesq> sorry I am a newbie ^^
[08:52] <stdin> Xera: ask on #ubuntu
[08:52] <Xera> stdin: k
[08:53] <ljubomir> MaxDamage: try gtkguitune
[08:53] <dope> hey can i add the medibuntu repo on kubuntu without any issues?
[08:54] <slow-motion> hallo
[09:02] <borisyeltsin> Hi, wpasupplicant won't update and won't uninstall, even a dpkg --force-all --remove wpasupplicant gives errors. How do I delete it?
[09:07] <carsten> Hallo
[09:09] <binks> if something is install in /usr/bin/tovid and /usr/bin/local/tovid is it safe to remove one by sudo rm -r /usr/bin/local/tovid
[09:10] <binks> well its usr/local/bin/tovid but you no what i mean
[09:11] <binks> !dpkg | borisyeltsin
[09:11] <ubotu> borisyeltsin: dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[09:11] <binks> oops
[09:12] <binks> try sudo apt-get remove -f wpasupplicant
[09:13] <borisyeltsin> binks: yah, I tried that already;) I figured it out though. the post removal script was lame so I commented it out and put in exit. No more problems.
[09:13] <binks> :)
[09:14] <borisyeltsin> Thanks for the attempted help though binks.
[09:15] <binks> story of my life atempted help
[09:15] <borisyeltsin> binks: if it makes you feel better I was trying to figure it out to do something completely useless. I needed to be able to install packages again so I could install flash player and watch a girl play wii sports in a bikini;)
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> borisyeltsin,  got a url? >!!!?!?!?
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> :)
[09:16] <borisyeltsin> lol
[09:16] <borisyeltsin> sure. one sec.
[09:16] <borisyeltsin> http://gamegaiden.com/girl-in-bikini-plays-wii-sports
[09:17] <borisyeltsin> lol;) I wonder what czessi is doing?
[09:17] <binks> not useless at all nice vid
[09:18] <ZachPruckowski> hey, if it's hot girl, that's a good reason
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> :)
[09:18] <Tm_T> borisyeltsin: I wonder how that's has anything to do in this channel?
[09:18] <binks> great reason now the site will go down with #ubuntu trafic
[09:19] <borisyeltsin> Tm_T: you're right it doesn't, I was just trying to make binks feel better because I solved the problem myself just as he was trying to help me. Then someone else here asked for the url. My bad basically;)
[09:20] <binks> no Tm_T lighten up
[09:20] <Tm_T> Yup.
[09:20] <Tm_T> binks: ?
[09:20] <borisyeltsin> anyhoo, I'm heading out. cheerio
[09:20] <binks> nightm8
[09:30] <phillijw> howdy
[09:30] <phillijw> i just installed kubuntu but my wireless wont work. I have a broadcom 43xx and the driver is messing up I think
[09:30] <daing> Hey, have any problems regarding NTFS resizing in the installer been reported?
[09:31] <dope> my linux keeps restarting
[09:31] <dope> it seems like the xserver just randomly restarts
[09:32] <dope> cause it'll be sitting at the desktop then bam i'm at the login screen
[09:32] <MaxDamage``> daing: nope... no problems
[09:32] <MaxDamage``> why?
[09:33] <daing> MaxDamage``: just asking as a precaution. Dont want the family's windows system to die on me while I install kubuntu :P
[09:33] <phillijw> dope, is it actually restarting or just logging you out?
[09:33] <daing> MaxDamage``: And i wasnt sure, because NTFS support in linux has been dodgy in the past
[09:33] <crazyrobot> back it up?
[09:33] <dope> logs me out
[09:33] <dope> like i said it looks like xserver is being restarted
[09:33] <phillijw> that is actually one of the power save settings or something
[09:33] <phillijw> maybe that is it
[09:33] <MaxDamage``> daing: nope, everything will work out fine if you dont make false movements
[09:33] <dope> are you sure?
[09:33] <phillijw> no im not sure
[09:34] <phillijw> thats why I said maybe
[09:34] <dope> where is this option
[09:35] <daing> MaxDamage``: what would be an example of false movements?
[09:35] <phillijw> probably in system settings somewhere
[09:35] <dope> like it just chills there then the screen goes black and the nvidia logo comes up and back to the login screen
[09:35] <phillijw> oh...
[09:35] <dope> it's not a full restart
[09:35] <phillijw> ok thats probably different
[09:35] <dope> heh
[09:35] <phillijw> ya that sounds like X crashing ors omething
[09:35] <dope> is there a log i can look at?
[09:36] <MaxDamage``> daing: deleting your partiton
[09:36] <Dr_Willis> may want to try a simple .xinitrc file and 'startx' command - (stop kdm from the console)
[09:36] <MaxDamage``> or resizing it so there isnt any free space
[09:36] <daing> MaxDamage``: yeah, I wouldnt do that. Okay, thanks
[09:36] <phillijw> dope, look at the x11 log maybe
[09:36] <Dr_Willis> dope,  go to the console and try 'sudo /etc/init.d.kdm stop'  then try 'startx'
[09:37] <dope> where's the log at. i'm in the X11 folder
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> dope,  it sounds like your window manager may be crashing/exiting.
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> dope,  /var/log/SOMTHING normally
[09:37] <dope> ah ok
[09:37] <daing> MaxDamage``: Well, I just partitioned, and everything seems fine, but you never know until you boot up windows...
[09:38] <dope> damn there's a lot in here
[09:38] <dope> kdm?
[09:38] <phillijw> dmesg might be good to look at maybe
[09:38] <dope> xor.0.log?
[09:39] <Morbo> I set KDE to display mounted discs.  Instead of displaying the disc's title (it did under Gnome), it displays cdrom#
[09:39] <Rob-West> http://www.cafepress.com/ubuntushop.14580695
[09:39] <Rob-West> :P
[09:40] <Morbo> I asked in KDE, and they suggested that something might be wrong with dbus or hal.
[09:40] <Morbo> Has anybody experienced this problem/know of a solution?
[09:40] <animimotus> someone has test webbasket ? http://basket.kde.org/webasket/
[09:42] <dope> i'm thinkin maybe it's messing up when the screensaver starts up
[09:42] <MaxDamage``> daing: well boot it =)
[09:42] <Rob-West> http://www.cafepress.com/ubuntushop.14580546
[09:42] <daing> MaxDamage``: Might aswell install Kubuntu before I boot windows.
[09:43] <daing> MaxDamage``: And my machine is being kind of slow, so it hasnt finished yet
[09:43] <MaxDamage``> daing: lol, and what are you using now?
[09:43] <stefano7> I can switch off Kubuntu from the shell ($ shutdown...), but if I try in KDE, system hangs. Any hint?
[09:43] <daing> MaxDamage``: My gentoo box
[09:43] <MaxDamage``> daing: alright :p
[09:44] <dope> is there a way to reinstall the xserver?
[09:47] <crazyrobot> apt-get remove kdm && apt-get install kdm?
[09:47] <h3sp4wn> dope: apt-get install --reinstall -o DPkg::Options::=--force-confmiss -o DPkg::Options::=--force-confnew xserver-xorg-core
[09:48] <h3sp4wn> Presuming xserver-org-core is considered the xserver
[09:48] <dope> i'm gonna try reinstalling my display driver
[09:49] <h3sp4wn> did you install a version from outside the repositories ?
[09:49] <crazyrobot> does anybody have any idea when KDE4 is comming out?
[09:50] <dope> yea
[09:50] <h3sp4wn> definately after April
[09:51] <h3sp4wn> dope: If you use nvidia.com's installer or ati's whenever you get a kernel or x update you may have to reinstall it
[09:52] <dope> i hit ctrl alt F1 and nothing happens
[09:53] <dope> how do i get to that console
[09:53] <phillijw> anyone have any experience with bcm43xx wifi cards? do you have to use ndiswrapper?
[09:53] <dope> phillijw: i used ndiswrapper
[09:53] <dope> and network-manager
[09:53] <dope> you know how to get to the console?
[09:53] <phillijw> Konsole?
[09:54] <dope> no
[09:54] <dope> like just a command line
[09:54] <phillijw> not sure what you mean
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> with a C not a K :)
[09:54] <dope> no kdm
[09:54] <ZachPruckowski> did you install off a live CD?
[09:54] <phillijw> oh, ya
[09:54] <phillijw> ctrl+alt+backspace?
[09:54] <coreymon77> my first question is are you sure that your card requires ndiswrapper
[09:54] <coreymon77> because if it doesnt
[09:54] <h3sp4wn> phillijw: You don't have to use ndiswrapper
[09:54] <dope> that restarts the xserver
[09:54] <phillijw> corey, no thats why I'm asking
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> alt-ctrl-f1 through f6 gets to the 6 consoles..
[09:54] <h3sp4wn> !bcm43xx
[09:54] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> X normally runs on the 7th one,
[09:54] <phillijw> willis, ah, thats what I meant. im a dork
[09:55] <phillijw> here's the thing. I THINK the bcm43xx driver is already installed
[09:55] <phillijw> but i'm not sure
[09:55] <h3sp4wn> phillijw: There is some firmware you need
[09:55] <coreymon77> phillijw: so, you are asking if it does?
[09:55] <h3sp4wn> phillijw: those doc's tell you where to get it
[09:55] <h3sp4wn> (on the bcm43xx part)
[09:55] <phillijw> ok.. it hink ive tried the non-ndis method before and it didnt work. but thast when I was having HD failures so.. that could've been it
[09:56] <h3sp4wn> There is one card it cannot work for 4318 I think
[09:56] <dope> damimt
[09:56] <dope> this isn't working :|
[09:56] <dope> i can't get to just the console
[09:56] <dope> no kdm
[09:57] <phillijw> BCM4309 rev02 is what i have
[09:57] <fxr_> where do i set my color depth??
[09:57] <h3sp4wn> phillijw: if you want to use ndiswrapper you need to do the blacklist
[09:57] <h3sp4wn> fxr_: xorg.conf
[09:57] <phillijw> i dont want to unless I have to
[09:58] <coreymon77> guys, is it possible to download/install frostwire through apt?
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> !frostwire
[09:58] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[09:58] <h3sp4wn> fxr_: Section "Screen" -> DefaultDepth    24
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> !find frostwire
[09:58] <ubotu> Package/file frostwire does not exist in edgy
[09:58] <coreymon77> Dr_Willis: it says to use the .deb
[09:58] <fxr_> thats it, thanks h3sp4wn r
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> coreymon77,  not sure how i installed it in the past. download the deb then. :)
[09:58] <dope> so when i press ctrl alt F1 or F2 whatever all i get is a black screen
[09:58] <coreymon77> so, its not on apt?
[09:59] <phillijw> dope, right, a console
[09:59] <dope> any help is appreciated
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> its 'not in the repositories'
[09:59] <dope> well there's no cursor
[09:59] <dope> like on my other comp when i do that
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> at elast not in the official ones
[09:59] <coreymon77> okay
[09:59] <phillijw> dope, maybe you have resolution problems and you cant see it?
[09:59] <dope> i don't think so
[09:59] <dope> shouldn't matter
[09:59] <dope> i should see something
[10:00] <phillijw> try typing in a command
[10:00] <dope> i just did
[10:00] <phillijw> one that will list a lot of stuff
[10:01] <dope> it should ask for my login
[10:01] <jaguar> hola buenas tardes
[10:01] <Alarm-> hello. i did manage to run apache2 (somehow apache package it self wasnt working, but since i installed apache2 the service seems to run). i can see the small test page that i created localy by http://localhost , but not from a remote computer although i did add a port forwarting on port 80 on my router (port forwarding is not the problem, as i created an ftp and ssh succesfully) so i guess its something on the apache more likely
[10:01] <Tox> what other commands konqueror can open apart settings:/ ?
[10:01] <jaguar> alguien que me pueda ayudar con kubuntu 6.10?
[10:01] <jaguar> soy de Mxico
[10:01] <Morbo> !es | jaguar
[10:01] <ubotu> jaguar: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:02] <jaguar> gracias
[10:02] <Morbo> de nada
[10:02] <coreymon77> Dr_Willis: if there is a .deb for it, why is it not on the repos, its a pretty popular program after all
[10:02] <fdoving> Tox: apt:/ sftp:/ fish:/ help:/ man:/ zip:/ tar:/ and so on.
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> coreymon77,  i would guess no maintainer wants to mess with it.
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> coreymon77,  and there may be some licensing issues.
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> it may be in the severas or other repos.
[10:03] <fdoving> Tox: you can find a list, with some descriptions at kmenu -> system -> kinfocenter -> protocols.
[10:03] <daing> Hey guys, wheres the grub.conf or menu.list in kubuntu?
[10:03] <Dr_Willis> - /boot/grub
[10:03] <Morbo> /boot/grub
[10:03] <daing> Thats what I thought... mm
[10:04] <daing> But it doesnt seem to be there
[10:04] <sukh> anyone know the command for the kde control center?
[10:04] <phillijw> this wiki has nothing about my wireless card :\
[10:04] <crazyrobot> Tox: actually a very cool feature in Konqueror is to put a audiocd in and type audiocd:/ for a nice ripping menu.
[10:05] <daing> Theres nodirectories inside /boot... only the kernels and some configuration files... Yet the installer said grub was installed
[10:05] <Tox> ok i mess with kmenu :) where is it :)
[10:05] <Xera> !phpgtk
[10:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about phpgtk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <Xera> !php-gtk
[10:06] <coreymon77> Dr_Willis: what do you mean, licensing issues, its open source
[10:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about php-gtk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> daing,  you used the default setup?
[10:06] <Xera> >:(
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> coreymon77,  go ASK THEM then...
[10:06] <daing> Dr_Willis: yes
[10:06] <Phre1> hey all.. so I got my wifi working.... the issue is that everytime I boot up I must manually open wlanassistant, enter root password, hit refresh twice till my SSID shows up and then connect.... is there an easier way?
[10:06] <sukh> Im trying to disable the bouncing mouse icon
[10:06] <daing> Dr_Willis: one big partition for everything, that shouldnt cause a problem
[10:06] <Tox> yes konqueror is the best browser i seen in linux
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> daing,  yea thats normal.. how are you looking at /boot ?
[10:06] <daing> Dr_Willis: and grub IS installed
[10:07] <daing> Dr_Willis: ls /boot
[10:07] <Xera> Tox: file browser yes, internet browser definetly not
[10:07] <ZachPruckowski> konqueror is sweet
[10:07] <phillijw> :|
[10:07] <ZachPruckowski> what
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> daing, hmm... odd....
[10:07] <daing> Dr_Willis: indeed
[10:07] <ZachPruckowski> what's wrong with Konq as a web browser?
[10:07] <Xera> ZachPruckowski: it's basic
[10:07] <Xera> compared to firefox
[10:07] <ZachPruckowski> I use it in my VM, and I use Safari in real life
[10:07] <Tox> yes , i'm talkin about file browser
[10:08] <Xera> or even opera
[10:08] <daing> Dr_Willis: Oh, im running 6.10, BTW.
[10:08] <daing> Dr_Willis: in case it matters
[10:08] <Tox> i browser for me is opera - n1, next firefox
[10:08] <Dr_Willis> daing,  not as far as ive seen.
[10:08] <ZachPruckowski> I guess I don't notice because the Linux VM is single-purpose
[10:08] <Dr_Willis> daing,  try sudo ls /boot
[10:08] <Xera> anyone in here got php-gtk working?
[10:08] <sukh> anyone know how to disable the bouncing mouse icon?
[10:08] <Xera> sukh: um, in theme settings
[10:08] <Xera> i think
[10:09] <daing> ohh, wait... hold on
[10:09] <Xera> kcontrol > themes
[10:09] <sukh> its not there
[10:09] <Xera> hmm
[10:09] <Dr_Willis> mouse feedback/launch feedback is the bouncing mouse isent it.
[10:09] <Tox> can't find kmenu :) where is it :)
[10:09] <Xera> Tox: o.o?!?!
[10:09] <Xera> click the kde icon on your task bar
[10:09] <Xera> normally on the left
[10:10] <Tox> !paste <fdoving> Tox: you can find a list, with some descriptions at kmenu -> system -> kinfocenter -> protocols.
[10:10] <Xera> uh?
[10:10] <daing> Dr_Willis: nevermind, i was outside my environment, like an idiot
[10:13] <phillijw> how do I know if i'm on edgy, dapper or breezy
[10:13] <phillijw> just look at my sources?
[10:14] <h3sp4wn> phillijw: cat /etc/lsb-release
[10:14] <phillijw> 6.06 dapper
[10:14] <h3sp4wn> phillijw: aptitude show libc6 | awk '/Version/ {printf "%s\n", $2}'
[10:14] <phillijw> when I installed kubuntu i didnt have an internet connection... now my sources.list is commented out
[10:15] <phillijw> can I make it auto generate a new one?
[10:15] <Hak5fan> Hello
[10:15] <phillijw> hello hak point five fan
[10:16] <Hak5fan> I just wanted to say that I'm very happy with kubuntu
[10:16] <h3sp4wn> for i in dapper{,-updates,-security}; do echo "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu $i main restricted multiverse universe"; done
[10:16] <Hak5fan> It's great
[10:16] <Phre1> ya I love it myself
[10:16] <Phre1> just got back into the linux scene
[10:16] <h3sp4wn> phillijw: that will give you the 3 lines you need
[10:16] <Phre1> installed it on my MSI MegaBook S270
[10:16] <Phre1> works awesome
[10:16] <Hak5fan> ok
[10:17] <Phre1> now if I can only upgrade  video drivers without killing my install :)
[10:17] <Hak5fan> I havn't finetuned it yet though
[10:17] <phillijw> lol. I cant belive you just wrote a shellscript to do hat
[10:18] <h3sp4wn> phillijw: so it can fit on one line
[10:19] <phillijw> do you suggest I stay on dapper or is that insecure?
[10:19] <Hak5fan> I'm new to linux, but I know the essensial things
[10:20] <h3sp4wn> phillijw: dapper is supported with security updates before edgy
[10:20] <phillijw> ok
[10:20] <phillijw> i always forget this stuff
[10:20] <h3sp4wn> Its the long term support version
[10:21] <h3sp4wn> If you are not bothered for the new features in edgy then stay with dapper
[10:21] <phillijw> ok
[10:21] <Hak5fan> I'm going to try to install my video drivers now, brb everybody
[10:21] <h3sp4wn> phillijw: as long as you have updates and security in sources.list and update periodically you will be fine
[10:21] <phillijw> sure thig
[10:22] <phillijw> thing
[10:22] <jakub_> does anybody know how to set up (k)ubuntu for Eduroam, wireless european university network?
[10:24] <Xera> would anyone mind pointing me in the right direction of php-config?
[10:24] <Xera> and if you're wondering what i mean, i'm trying to install php-gtk, and when i run configure i get "Please use the --with-php-config option to specify the location of php-config for the required version."
[10:24] <phillijw> how do I make it so my clock is not in military time
[10:24] <phillijw> thats annoying as hell
[10:25] <Xera> lol
[10:25] <Xera> right click > date and time format
[10:25] <phillijw> i did that... do I need to restart x?
[10:25] <tobias_> hey you guys
[10:25] <Xera> phillijw: no you shouldn't have to
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> set the time format. then either log out/back in... or theres some other command taht can do it.
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> and yes - its annoying.
[10:26] <tobias_> i have a problem with my nvidia graphics card
[10:26] <Xera> Dr_Willis: lolz, how is it annoying?
[10:26] <tobias_> i installed the driver and so on but it just won't find the card
[10:26] <Xera> oh and something for the lazy people who can't read a 24h clock, right click > type > fuzzy
[10:26] <Xera> shows it as "Twenty five past nine"
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> Xera,  if i set the clock format to 12 hr.. i shouldent have to do anything to make it actually do it. :) i know the whole 'running apps wont see the changes.. but its annoying'
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> of course i dont see why it defaults to 24hr format in the first place.
[10:27] <hak5fan> Hi again... I just installed my video drivers and evrything still works woho
[10:27] <Xera> well, why does gnome have a refresh function but kde doesn't? >:(
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> what does it refersh>
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> refresh?
[10:28] <Xera> uh
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> Gnome = feet = stinky?
[10:28] <Xera> the "kicker"
[10:28] <Xera> or w/e
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> the panels?
[10:28] <Xera> well, it reloads the menu and stuff
[10:28] <Xera> icons, menus, taskbar
[10:29] <uiop> hello does anyone know how to configure an usb wifi dongle hercules under kubuntu?
[10:29] <Xera> but in kde when an app adds itself to the menu, u have to restart X
[10:29] <Xera> :(
[10:29] <Morbo> You do?  /me hadn't noticedthat
[10:29] <Xera> i do
[10:29] <Minataku> Morbo... what's that from?
[10:29] <phillijw> that, 24h clock and having to restart X for menus are the most annoying things
[10:29] <Minataku> Damn my memory >.<
[10:29] <Morbo> Futurama, Minataku
[10:29] <Minataku> THAT'S IT
[10:29] <Minataku> :D
[10:29] <Minataku> Sorry X3
[10:30] <Xera> phillijw: if you can't read a 24h clock go back to school
[10:30] <Morbo> Heh.
[10:30] <Xera> ;)
[10:30] <Minataku> It wasn't a memory error, it was a terrible brainfart XD
[10:30] <phillijw> I can, but I shouldnt have to
[10:30] <Xera> well most of the world uses 24h clocks
[10:30] <Xera> lol
[10:30] <Minataku> phillijw is right
[10:30] <Minataku> I hate 24h clocks
[10:30] <Xera> lazy
[10:30] <Xera> :D
[10:30] <phillijw> i think i'm bright enough to know that its either night or day
[10:30] <tobias_> mhh can't anyone help me with my graphic-card ?
[10:30] <phillijw> i can differentiate between 2am and 2pm
[10:30] <Morbo> I set as many things as possible to 24h if only to annoy everyody else
[10:30] <hak5fan> why... I see no reason to hate them
[10:31] <Minataku> I was raised using 12h, I don't think in 24h
[10:31] <Tm_T> phillijw: Well, let's meet you at 6.
[10:31] <daing> Is there a trick to have font aliasing in kubuntu>
[10:31] <daing> ?
[10:31] <Minataku> Kind of like how I was raised using English and therefore don't think in Spanish
[10:31] <phillijw> Tm_T: then it turns into a limit problem. it is approaching dark
[10:31] <Morbo> Except numbers are numbers :p
[10:31] <phillijw> or approaching light
[10:31] <Hirvinen> phillijw: I think I'm bright enough to only need one reference point instead of midnight *and* noon.
[10:31] <Minataku> Same difference, really, Spanish or a 24h clock, I have to translate to process
[10:32] <Tm_T> Heh.
[10:32] <phillijw> maybe kubuntu should default its money units in Yen
[10:32] <mundisko> hi, does anyone know good recovery program for damaged dvds and cds on kubuntu ??
[10:32] <Minataku> phillijw: What's up, I just came in?
[10:32] <guest_> hello
[10:32] <Dr_Willis> how damaged?
[10:33] <phillijw> i dont konw
[10:33] <guest_> how are you ??
[10:33] <phillijw> i'm just whining about the difficulty of chainging from 24h to 12h clock
[10:33] <tobias_> argh
[10:33] <Minataku> That should be easy
[10:33] <mundisko> i can watch ca. 35 % of movie and then it stops
[10:33] <phillijw> SHOULD BE = key word
[10:33] <w0jtas> hi! why kde don't add new styles to kcontrol ??
[10:33] <tobias_> does anyone know how i make my fucking graphic card working ?
[10:33] <Minataku> I do it every time I boot up Knoppix
[10:33] <guest_> what are you doing ??
[10:33] <mundisko> dvd is scratched
[10:33] <Minataku> !language | tobias_
[10:33] <ubotu> tobias_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:34] <Morbo> !nvidia | tobias_
[10:34] <ubotu> tobias_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:34] <Minataku> I understand that computer issues can be frustrating but you have to keep your cool
[10:34] <phillijw> anyone use cpu throttling?
[10:34] <coreymon77> does anyone here know of a frostwire irc channel, the chat function doesnt work
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> try #frostwire ?
[10:34] <revolution27> i'm having nVidia problems too
[10:34] <Morbo> I use the automatic non-userspace flavor, phillijw
[10:35] <uiop> hello , does someone speaking french here?
[10:35] <Minataku> !fr | uiop
[10:35] <ubotu> uiop: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:35] <Morbo> !fr | uiop
[10:35] <phillijw> Morbo: oh, mind giving me a very breif explanation of what that means?
[10:35] <uiop> thanks a lot
[10:35] <Minataku> np
[10:35] <revolution27> after I installed beryl, my nvidia drivers stopped working
[10:35] <phillijw> basically I just want to know how I should have mine set for a laptop that generally is plugged in
[10:36] <Minataku> phillijw: You mean "off"? ;e
[10:36] <Minataku> *;3
[10:36] <Morbo> phillijw- I'd keep it at the default
[10:36] <Morbo> That will keep it cooler too, remember
[10:36] <phillijw> ok, well, i just had it unplugged for a while and it died really fast
[10:37] <phillijw> eh whatever. im not too worried. now how do I fix this clock?
[10:37] <juano__> where can i change keyboard language ?
[10:37] <Morbo> I'm not expert.  I just left it as it is
[10:38] <Morbo> System Settings -> Keyboard and Mouse, juano__
[10:38] <Minataku> phillijw: There should be an option via KDE to change it
[10:38] <Morbo> er, regional and language, i mean
[10:38] <Morbo> Select keyboard layout from there
[10:38] <phillijw> there is.. and I changed it... and it still shows up as military time
[10:38] <phillijw> i guess i'll try logging out
[10:38] <juano__> Morbo: no language option there
[10:39] <crazyrobot> you have to restart the x server for the time to change.
[10:39] <Morbo> juano__- Did you see my correction?
[10:39] <Minataku> I haven't used KDE in ages by now >.<
[10:39] <juano__> oh.. Morbo
[10:39] <juano__> Morbo: let me check now
[10:39] <Morbo> Sorry about that :)
[10:40] <Minataku> Sorry if I'm being a bit disagreeable, I had a heck of a time setting something up a bit earlier
[10:40] <Minataku> lol
[10:40] <Morbo> What was that?
[10:40] <slougi> hi everyone. are there any alsa gurus around?
[10:40] <Minataku> Morbo: Well, first, a 19" Sun monitor is _really heavy_
[10:41] <Morbo> lol
[10:41] <Minataku> Second, swapping two drives to find it doesn't work and you have to undo it all would piss off anyone
[10:41] <Morbo> I assume you meant some nasty driver install
[10:41] <phillijw> hw problems are way more frustrating
[10:41] <Minataku> I'm actually a Gentoo user, everything goes really nice and easy for me
[10:41] <Minataku> lol
[10:41] <juano__> Morbo: thanks, gotta install language first though
[10:41] <Morbo> :)
[10:42] <w0jtas> hi! why kde don't add new styles to kcontrol ??
[10:42] <Morbo> I've been having problems with DVD/CD icons on the desktop.  Instead of displaying the disc's title, it shows "cdrom#"
[10:43] <Morbo> I asked in KDE, and they suggested it was a problem with dbus or hal, but it works fine under Gnome
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> Morbo,  look in media:/  and see if they show up there by name
[10:43] <Morbo> Dr_Willis- Same problem thrre
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> i cant even rember the last time i watched a real dvd. ;)
[10:43] <juano__> Morbo: have you tried mounting with another name?
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> if you just ut the dvd in the drive.. do you really need its name on the desktop :)
[10:44] <juano__> Dr_Willis: :)
[10:44] <Morbo> pfft.  I like things looking pretty :p
[10:44] <Morbo> juano__- As in?
[10:44] <mase> how do i install sshd on kubuntu
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> !info ssh
[10:44] <ubotu> ssh: Secure shell client and server (transitional package). In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB
[10:44] <juano__> Morbo: like trying sudo mkdir /media/mycdname
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install ssh
[10:45] <juano__> Morbo: and then mounting it there
[10:45] <mase> indeed
[10:46] <mase> !info sshd
[10:46] <ubotu> Package sshd does not exist in any distro I know
[10:46] <mase> how do i get ssh up and running
[10:46] <mase> after installed
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> it should be running once it isnalls
[10:46] <juano__> mase: type ssh?
[10:46] <mase> oh
[10:46] <Morbo> I'll try that, juano__
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> ssh 101 - day 1, class 1
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> :)
[10:47] <mase> ssh gives me a bunch of options
[10:47] <juano__> Morbo: yea.. it could do the trick... though probably it would be good to add the whole mount line to your fstab, except thatll work for one cd i guess, your gonna have the same name for all the rest
[10:48] <juano__> Morbo: thats not what you want i think :P
[10:48] <mase> well
[10:48] <mase> how do i know its working?
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> ssh localhost
[10:48] <juano__> mase: its installed if you ssh and it gives options
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> it MAY be worth wile to read a ssh tutorial or 2
[10:48] <juano__> mase: man ssh
[10:49] <mase> ic
[10:49] <mase> so people can only connect to me with putty
[10:49] <mase> not telnet right
[10:50] <tobias_> i installed my video-card driver but it still won#t display my video card
[10:50] <phillijw> so i download the bwxx-fwcutter and in the readme it gives me like 50 links for the drivers I need to use to create the firmware. but it doesnt tell me which one I need to download
[10:51] <sirprof> hi leute
[10:51] <juano__> Morbo: still now change in keyboard
[10:51] <juano__> Morbo: no*
[10:51] <Morbo> Dr_Willis- Correction: it does work fine under media:/
[10:51] <Morbo> I misplaced the / :p
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> Morbo,  heh heh
[10:52] <YumeNoEien> hello everyone
[10:52] <tobias_> mhh i need to go bye bye
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> theres a bit of a history about media:/ and /media
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> some apps dont like media:/
[10:52] <Kyral> And while media:/ is a KIOSlave
[10:53] <Kyral> /media is part of the FHS
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> is there a porn:// ?
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> :)
[10:56] <phillijw> stupid firmware
[10:56] <phillijw> my card shows up as a 4306 now...
[10:56] <juano__> how do i change keyboard language?
[10:58] <sinbad33> is there a porn:// ?   HAHAHA
[10:59] <sinbad33> anyone know how to change the bootsplash screen ??
[10:59] <sinbad33> the very first splash during bootup
[11:00] <sinbad33> cant stand blue :( reminds me too much of MS
[11:01] <phillijw> this damn broadcom driver wont work properly
[11:01] <phillijw> ndiswrapper would be so much easier at this point
[11:02] <obe> ho 1 problema....kubuntu nn mi vede il mio ipod nano...sapete come aiutarmi??
[11:03] <Tm_T> !it
[11:03] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:03] <sleepy495> can I load a kubuntu kde theme and use emerald theme at the same time?
[11:03] <Tm_T> I keep wondering why italians expect rest of the world understand them.
[11:04] <obe> sorry..
[11:05] <joshy> has anyone experiences with XEN
[11:05] <juano__> how do i change keyboard language?
[11:05] <phillijw> juano__: someone already told you
[11:07] <juano__> phillijw: well its not working
[11:11] <obe> xcuse me...my kubuntu can't display my ipod nano...can you help me??
[11:14] <w0jtas> hi! why kde don't add new styles to kcontrol ??
[11:14] <jimmie> obe: same format of the database ?
[11:15] <Xera> configure: error: PHP-GTK 2.x requires GLib 2.6.0 or higher
[11:15] <obe> i dont know..
[11:15] <Xera> god, i just installed that
[11:15] <Xera> :@
[11:15] <Xera> where is glib2.6.0 installed by default?
[11:20] <jimmie> obe: try to find out, cause sometimes KDE may have problems with NTSF or other file formats ...
[11:20] <revolution27> Ok i'll try one more time... When I installed beryl my nvidia graphics drives stopped working. I know this because games run very slow. When i try to install nvidia-glx, i get this http://pastebin.com/858610
[11:22] <jimmie> try to save your iPOD harddisc in a UNIX harddisc-format , after that restore it with your itunes, otherwise if you're using the ipod only with your running unix system format is to your unix format
[11:22] <obe> ok
[11:22] <jimmie> wait
[11:22] <obe> ok
[11:22] <jimmie> the problem is, that you may can't connect to any windows platform anymore...
[11:23] <jimmie> thats the prob
[11:23] <joshy> revolution27: I've also had problems with beryl & nvidia
[11:23] <revolution27> did you fix them?
[11:24] <obe> no...i have a shared hd with win xp...kde don't have problems to ride and execute files in the ntfs partition..
[11:24] <joshy> revolution27: Yes: look @ http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Beryl?highlight=%28beryl%29
[11:24] <revolution27> thanks i'll check it out
[11:24] <joshy> np
[11:25] <jimmie> than you may try out...
[11:25] <jimmie> safe your stuff, till it gets lost
[11:26] <malik_> how do i make firefox to open all pop ups and links which open new windows, in new tabs instead of new windows?
[11:26] <jimmie> look @ properties
[11:26] <phillijw> why isnt ndiswrapper int he repos :(
[11:27] <obe> ok
[11:27] <obe> tnx
[11:27] <sinbad33> anyone know if there are any problems associated with simultaneous connection of a kubuntu box & an xp box thru the same switch ?
[11:27] <phillijw> malik_: that is a firefox setting...
[11:27] <LeeJunFan> sinbad33: unless they both have the same IP and or MAC addy - no.
[11:28] <revolution27> umm joshy is there an english version of that page?
[11:28] <sinbad33> different mac addys, not sure about ips
[11:29] <malik_> where can i find it in settings coz my setting is set to tabs but still some links when i click on them they open new windows instead of tabs
[11:30] <sinbad33> does my xp box compromise my kub box securitywise in any way?
[11:30] <Kyral> nope
[11:30] <sinbad33> good thx
[11:31] <LeeJunFan> sinbad33: only if your XP box has some type of unathenticated link to the kubuntu box, if you are sharing your kubuntu disks to XP, or you have an ssh key on XP to allow no password logins to kubuntu.
[11:32] <sinbad33> anyone know if its possible to change my konq browser font color? already played around with font type/size etc, but cudnt find font color
[11:32] <Xera> MY GOD gtk stuff is so f*cked up
[11:32] <Xera> *** Glib 2.9.1 or better is required. The latest version of
[11:32] <Xera> *** Glib is always available from ftp://ftp.gtk.org/.
[11:32] <joshy> revolution27: sry but I don't find an en version
[11:32] <Tox> hi is there any tool to install source automatically or directly from gzip ?
[11:32] <Xera> installing "pango"
[11:32] <Tox> i mean with GUI
[11:32] <joshy> revolution27: maybe this site helps: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/AiGLX
[11:33] <sinbad33> Lee, not that i know of, im hoping xp doesnt quietly try to setup its own default link to my kub box
[11:33] <sinbad33> ms being so darn sneaky n all
[11:34] <sinbad33> does kubuntu have a device manager?
[11:35] <h3sp4wn> Not really
[11:35] <Kyral> Device Manager?
[11:35] <Kyral> Define
[11:36] <h3sp4wn> its a spec for feisty though
[11:36] <Xera> would someone guide me through installing gtk/glib/pango?
[11:37] <sinbad33> a menu which tells u if all your devices are working right
[11:37] <Kyral> ...its kinda obvious when they ain't...
[11:38] <Kr4t05> Hrm... is there any good FOSS voice recognition software?
[11:39] <sinbad33> are there any good music light organ plugins for kubuntu?
[11:39] <sinbad33> xmms
[11:40] <h3sp4wn> You want something to play a midi file ? and sound like an organ ?
[11:42] <joshy> sinbad33: *lol* xD
[11:44] <h3sp4wn> sinbad33: I don't know what you are adking
[11:44] <MPat> noob question. Please help if you can.
[11:44] <MPat> How can I add app to start in startup with out login?
[11:44] <h3sp4wn> !noob
[11:44] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[11:45] <h3sp4wn> MPat: depends what the app is
[11:45] <MPat> forexample gqcam?
[11:46] <h3sp4wn> what is that
[11:46] <MPat> simple webcam prog based on gtk
[11:46] <h3sp4wn> Can it run just in the cli then ?
[11:47] <MPat> cli?
[11:47] <h3sp4wn> You want it to start before you login
[11:47] <h3sp4wn> !cli
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[11:47] <MPat> yes
[11:47] <h3sp4wn> to which question
[11:48] <MPat> if I want to start from terminal (remote) it tryes X11forwarding
[11:48] <balance> hello
[11:48] <MPat> h3sp4wn You want it to start before you login
[11:49] <linux-mac> im firt times on linux any one here for help?
[11:49] <h3sp4wn> I only have command line apps that run at bootup
[11:49] <MPat> ok, I think I try to work it out other way. Thx
[11:49] <linux-mac> can i ask u h3 for help or mpat?
[11:50] <linux-mac> id like to know if i nead any antivirus or antispy just to be sure whit kubuntu?
[11:50] <linux-mac> do u know mpat?
[11:50] <MPat> some but I dont use atleast
[11:51] <linux-mac> witch is the best antivirus for linux?
[11:51] <killown> how I do to view apps install?
[11:52] <h3sp4wn> MPat: Its easy enough for it to be run once you login
[11:52] <linux-mac> btw im just asking if u advise me just to keep the antiroot kit adept gives u or put some antivirus and antispy on kubuntu to?
[11:52] <linux-mac> h3 tell me yours to
[11:53] <Kr4t05> killown: Adpet
[11:53] <Kr4t05> killown: Adept*
[11:53] <linux-mac> they told me linux btw is safe 99% from spyware and virus
[11:54] <linux-mac> so what do u advise me ?
[11:54] <h3sp4wn> linux-mac: no need for one if you keep security updates applied
[11:54] <Kr4t05> linux-mac: This is true, for the most part. Just be sensible as to what you do.
[11:54] <linux-mac> ok thank u
[11:54] <MPat> linux-mac With Automatix2 you can install ClamAV and Guarddog, never used
[11:55] <linux-mac> another thing they sended me home the live cd of kubuntu 6.06 lts is the last version stable to install or i must use this one still?
[11:55] <barsanuphe_> hi
[11:56] <barsanuphe_> i have a grep related question
[11:56] <linux-mac> and id like to know to if kubuntu does everything or i nead to download last version
[11:56] <barsanuphe_> im trying to filter some lines, then filter out some of the selected lines
[11:56] <barsanuphe_> is there any way to do this with just one comman?
[11:56] <barsanuphe_> d
[11:57] <killown> thanks
[11:57] <MPat> linux-mac 6.10 latest stable you can dl it from kubuntu.org
[11:57] <barsanuphe_> linux-mac>you could install this version and then upgrade, but it would be easier to just dl the latest version
[11:58] <linux-mac> ok so ill make the iso dvd and then install last kubuntu back
[11:58] <barsanuphe_> so is there anyone who can help me with my problem?
[11:58] <Linux_Galore> o 0 (isn't 7.04 the latest)
[11:58] <linux-mac> they told me firefox has a bug that gives out passwords now same as ie 7 is that true couse i don't see opera in adept
[11:59] <barsanuphe_> galore > not the latest stable
[11:59] <Linux_Galore> barsanuphe_: yeah just saw that
[12:00] <todd_> need some help making sure my mozilla has java enabled, anyone?
[12:00] <linux-mac> beware everyone i heard that firefox has a password bug as ie 7 so what we must do use opera?
[12:00] <leiar> are there anyone who can tell me the righ way to get web-tv work? I've installed mozilla-mplayer and w32codecs, but I can still not watch web-TV. Mplayer starts loading and looks like it goes into a loop.
[12:01] <MPat> web-tv?
[12:01] <leiar> I run kubuntu dapper 6.0, firefox 1.5
[12:01] <intelikey> have oddity.   unused console enter a command then switch to another console and openvt -fc <the tty number of the one you entered "the command" in>   and "the command" will be ran in that console....    it's like the kernel holds that input until there is some place to send it.
[12:01] <leiar> Mpat: I want to watch TV on my laptop :-)
[12:01] <dawn> hello, I have a question. What is the easier way to import Outlook express emails into Thunderbird? Has anyone had any expeirence with this?
[12:01] <MPat> stream from webpage?
[12:02] <leiar> Mpat, yes, I guess..
[12:02] <dawn> test
[12:02] <todd_> dawn, I did this from Outlook
[12:02] <dawn> so have it
[12:02] <MPat> you have address'?
[12:02] <dawn> but I am going from windows to ubuntu
[12:02] <linux-mac> so im lost here is it true of this bug of mozilla firefox and ie 7 that gives out your passwords?
[12:02] <todd_> me too
[12:03] <dawn> ok, so what did you do?
[12:03] <dawn> I backed up my OE folder onto a USB drive
[12:03] <MPat> linux-mac, not  heard atleast
[12:03] <dawn> and tried to import directly from that
[12:03] <todd_> I had XP on one partition and kubuntu on another
[12:03] <linux-mac> u advise me it's better to use epifany pat?
[12:03] <dawn> but Thunderbird never gave me an option
[12:04] <malik_> how do i setup kontact to access yahoo mail?
[12:04] <linux-mac> im looking to use opera or epifany just trying to understand witch one is better then firefox
[12:04] <will> Hey
[12:04] <todd_> dawn, then while in XP, I started up T-bird and it took all the Outllok automatically
[12:04] <leiar> Mpat:http://www1.nrk.no/nett-tv/klipp/219180
[12:04] <will> I just bought a new videocard
[12:04] <linux-mac> hello
[12:04] <will> but kubuntu is still using my onboard sis
[12:04] <will> what do I do ?
[12:04] <dawn> hmmmm
[12:04] <linux-mac> will i got nvidia 7900 gs is that ok for kubuntu drivers?
[12:05] <dawn> that should'nt be no different then what I did
[12:05] <todd_> once I had T-bird in XP, make a back up
[12:05] <leiar> Mpat: It worked now. Don't know why. Been working with this some time this morning. But now it works just like that. Strange..
[12:05] <dawn> only difference yours was on a partition
[12:05] <dawn> and mine is on a USB key
[12:05] <will> I got a radeon 9250
[12:05] <todd_> then reboot into Kubuntu, load T-bird from the backup
[12:05] <malik_> opera is definitely better than any other if u r using windows but firefox2 now have all the opera features plus opera doesnt handle multimedia all that well in linux..........u shud use FF2 in linux
[12:05] <MPat> :);)
[12:05] <Tox> how to make kubuntu understand and found more than 3 mouse buttons ?
[12:05] <will> Im guessing I need to go into the bios and disable my sis
[12:05] <linux-mac> ok then the password bug of firefox and ie 7 must be for windows
[12:06] <Tox> i have a4tech x-718
[12:06] <will> Maybe I will do that
[12:06] <linux-mac> any one knows who to make the icon show on desk once u installed a program from adept or web?
[12:06] <aseigo> linux-mac: drag it from the k menu
[12:06] <aseigo> linux-mac: or you can right click on the desktop, add new -> etc ... bug DnD is the easiest =)
[12:06] <malik_> how do i setup kontact to access yahoo mail?
[12:07] <todd_> I had trouble with Kontact, now use T-bird
[12:07] <linux-mac> the problem is the program installed don't show if i don't reboot even on k menu
[12:07] <dawn> Thx todd, I will keep that as an option
[12:07] <leiar> malik: what do you mean?
[12:07] <dawn> evolution and t-bird are the best
[12:07] <dawn> I just have of yet to connect evolution to exchange
[12:08] <todd_> dawn, there ia also a program for converting
[12:08] <dawn> while it is resident on a XP machine
[12:08] <dawn> mozbackup is one I have used before
[12:08] <linux-mac> ok the problem here i install stuff whit adept or web but nead a reboot of pc to make em show on desk and menu
[12:08] <dawn> thunderstor is another, but alas those are windoze options
[12:08] <todd_> lemme look, be right back
[12:08] <linux-mac> is there a thing u must do in terminal to make em show whit out rebooting?
[12:09] <dawn> running evolution on windows seems kinda buggy
[12:09] <malik_> leiar: i want to use jontact to access my yahoo mail.......how do i do that?
[12:10] <linux-mac> any one knows how to make installed programs show on k menu' and desktop whit out the nead of pc restart?
[12:10] <leiar> malik: in t-bird?
[12:10] <tsdgeos> linux-mac: run kbuildsycoca
[12:10] <linux-mac> ok ill try in terminal
[12:10] <hermanni> can i play bf2 using linux
[12:11] <leiar> malik: haven't heard about jontact....
[12:11] <hermanni> :)
[12:11] <dawn> no but I heard one can play doom3
[12:11] <dawn> :)
[12:11] <malik_> leiar: i am using Kontact(mail client in edgy kubuntu 6.10with kde 3.5.5 ) to access gmail and it works like charm how do i make it to access yahoo mail too?
[12:11] <hermanni> dam
[12:12] <linux-mac> it says no database avaible tsdgeos
[12:12] <tsdgeos> linux-mac: that's normal
[12:12] <malik_> its called Kmail too
[12:12] <linux-mac> yes but still what i installed dosen't show anywhere why is that only if i reboot does
[12:12] <will> Hey! It worked
[12:12] <leiar> malik:just put in mail.yahoo.com as your mail server, I think..
[12:13] <linux-mac> on other distros like suse shows as u install very strange
[12:13] <fdoving> linux-mac: it's not given that it will show. you can install the package 'menu' if you want more apps in your menu.
[12:13] <todd_> dawn, there seems to be some good stuff when I googled for linux outlook to thunderbird backup, but since I haven't used that software, I'll just keep my advice to my experience; sorry
[12:13] <fdoving> linux-mac: that will make a Debian submenu in your kmenu, with more apps than the ones showing in the kmenu.
[12:14] <todd_> I need help with mozilla and java, anyone?
[12:14] <will> But kubuntu is still running a little laggy
[12:14] <will> Firefox man
[12:14] <linux-mac> well makes no sense u nead to reboot every time u install a program to make it show on k menu and desk no distro i ever seen does that
[12:14] <will> Why is it so choppy
[12:14] <will> ?