[12:30] <lifeless> doko: how different
[12:30] <lifeless> doko: I thought it was an import of the external elementree, 
[12:30] <lifeless> doko: and that comes as pure python, with an optional extension module. We need the extension module for speed.
[12:31] <doko> lifeless: no, the extension module is included
[12:33] <lifeless> doko: it sounds fine. best way to check is to run the benchmark tests ;)
[12:34] <doko> lifeless: debootstrap & schroot are your friends ;-)
[12:38] <lifeless> doko: erm, you asked the question ;)
[12:38] <lifeless> doko: I do know that it runs on 2.5
[03:00] <mpt> Goooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!
[04:09] <mpt> ooh, hugs
[04:27] <mchua> Howdy. Is there an admin in the house? I need a quick bit of help.
[04:49] <mchua> (Or does anyone know how I can find an admin? I didn't want to spam the launchpad-users list with one question.)
[04:49] <Hobbsee> mchua: more successful if you ask your question
[04:50] <mchua> Sorry about that, Hobbsee. I've got an old Launchpad account, but can't find the email I used to register it.
[04:50] <Hobbsee> mchua: what was the LP account?
[04:50] <mchua> The page for the account is https://launchpad.net/~mallory-chua, so it exists somewhere.
[04:51] <Hobbsee> mchua: mallory.chua@gmail.com
[04:51] <Hobbsee> is the most likely one
[04:51] <mchua> Thanks, Hobbsee! I'll try that.
[04:51] <spiv> Email addresses in launchpad are generally visible to logged in users (unless the user chose to hide them)
[04:52] <spiv> So you could have registered a new account, and then once you could see the address, have merged them.
[04:52] <Hobbsee> spiv: good point
[04:54] <mchua> That might be faster; I deleted that gmail account (was recreating it).
[04:55] <spiv> mchua: merging an account requires that you have access to the email address for the account you want to merge.
[04:56] <spiv> (same restriction as for claiming it/recovering a password, basically0
[04:56] <spiv> )
[04:56] <mchua> Just discovered that on the "merge" page. Ah well. I'll try recreating the gmail account temporarily.
[04:56] <spiv> Sorry if I wasn't clear!
[04:57] <spiv> Otherwise, you really do need an admin :)
[04:58] <mchua> Thanks for the help. I'm one of those bewildered newbies (created a launchpad account when I first installed Ubuntu, and now months later I want to start contributing and realize I've lost that email), so the advice is quite appreciated.
[05:00] <mchua> Gah; gmail claims it has no account of that name, but won't let me create it.
[05:01] <mchua> Sounds like I do need an admin.
[05:01] <mchua> How can I find one?
[05:03] <spiv> I'd create a seperate launchpad account (if you haven't already), and file a support request at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addticket.
[05:04] <spiv> There's often one on this channel, but not usually one weekends.
[05:05] <mchua> Thanks, spiv. Will do.
[05:05] <mchua> I appreciate you putting up with the n00b questions. :)
[05:06] <spiv> Glad I could help :)
[05:22] <mchua> night all. thanks for the help, spiv!
[12:15] <mdke> spiv: did you receive my email? Any thoughts?
[03:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #79072 in launchpad "Mail from answers are all the same" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/79072
[05:32] <ryanakca> can a team only get bugmail with a certain tag?
[05:32] <mdke> ryanakca: don't think so
[05:35] <ryanakca> mdke: kk, thanks
[06:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #79100 in launchpad "reporting bugs for upstream products" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/79100
[06:26] <LarstiQ> bug 61429
[06:26] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 61429 in malone "person buglistings (i.e. +subscribedbugs) should show all bugs explicitely and implicitely (i.e. via team, dupes, etc)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/61429
[06:34] <tsmithe> hi all - i'd like to ask about deleting bazaar branches, and also deleting "product series" from launchpad
[06:45] <LarstiQ> tsmithe: not possible, yet.
[06:45] <tsmithe> hmm
[06:45] <tsmithe> ok
[06:45] <tsmithe> neither of the two?
[06:45] <LarstiQ> tsmithe: Though if you have a really good reason, filing a support ticket mentioning that might help to get admins dirty with SQL.
[06:46] <LarstiQ> tsmithe: In general, deleting anything is not possible.
[06:46] <tsmithe> that's curious... why so?
[06:46] <LarstiQ> tsmithe: you can rename and give different content
[06:46] <tsmithe> https://launchpad.net/ubuntustudio <= we don't want it set up as it is
[06:46] <LarstiQ> tsmithe: I suppose not to let any history get lost, but you'd better ask on of the launchpad devs
[06:47] <tsmithe> hmm ok
[06:47] <LarstiQ> tsmithe: how would you like it changed?
[06:48] <tsmithe> we don't want the series shown
[06:50] <LarstiQ> looking at the alsa series, you're using it quite differenlty from what series are intended for
[06:50] <tsmithe> yes
[06:50] <tsmithe> and we have decided to go standard
[06:51] <LarstiQ> tsmithe: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+tickets, if you explain your situation fully there, I think you have a reasonable chance
[06:52] <tsmithe> cool
[06:53] <mdke> tsmithe: you can't have a product series deleted
[06:54] <mdke> sadly
[06:54] <tsmithe> i find that a bit silly (i don't particularly care about the technical database reasons as to why it's hard, unfortunately)
[06:54] <tsmithe> i see there are other tickets requesting the same
[06:54] <mdke> yes, and a bug
[06:54] <tsmithe> indeed
[06:54] <tsmithe> 2461, if i recall...
[06:55] <tsmithe> no
[06:55] <mdke> I don't really understand how you would not care about the technical reasons as to why it's hard
[06:55] <mdke> those are the reasons preventing you from doing it, so you should care about them
[06:55] <tsmithe> ok - in that sense
[06:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #79107 in Ubuntu "feisty-alternate-i386 for herd-2 cannot install kernel from net" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/79107
[06:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #79109 in Ubuntu "feisty-alternate-i386 for herd-2 cannot install kernel from CDROM" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/79109
[06:55] <mdke> if what you're saying is "Launchpad should be perfect", it isn't, and you don't *have* to use it
[06:55] <LarstiQ> tsmithe: I don't think the reasons are technical at all
[06:56] <mdke> LarstiQ: yeah, they are, it seems
[06:56] <tsmithe> but not in the sense that i would be able to help with them (should i have the change, not saying i would)
[06:56] <tsmithe> bug 2141
[06:56] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 2141 in launchpad "You can't remove series in products" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/2141
[06:56] <LarstiQ> mdke: I always thought it was more a philosophical problem
[06:56] <mdke> LarstiQ: well, the bug is confirmed, so there isn't an objection to doing it - it's pretty clear that people should be able to delete their own product series
[06:57] <LarstiQ> that's not clear to me at least
[06:57] <mdke> when you object to fixing a bug, you generally mark it as closed
[06:58] <LarstiQ> mdke: heh, not where I come from :)
[06:58] <LarstiQ> you tag it wont-fix
[06:59] <LarstiQ> anyway, it's clear to me that mistaken series should not be present, but that is different than allowing people to delete all of their series
[07:00] <mdke> Brad emailed me about my ticket and said that it wouldn't be possible until that bug was fixed
[07:00] <mdke> I deduced that they were intending to fix it
[07:01] <LarstiQ> quite possible
[07:07] <tsmithe> thanks LarstiQ, mdke
[08:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #79115 in launchpad ""Your bug may have already been reported" is inconcise " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/79115
[08:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #79118 in rosetta "Problems with "Need Review" and "Save & Continue"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/79118
[09:18] <baikonur> hi
[09:44] <beuno> anyone around that can answer a question on launchpad?
[09:51] <mdke> beuno: it's likely to depend on the question... most developers aren't around but if it's an easy question, you may be lucky