[12:01] <Moose> ||cw: Alright, so right now I could log in and check my email that I don't have with my user account? No extra configuration?
[12:01] <un_operateur> Enverex, what are you on Dapper or Edgy   ?
[12:01] <Enverex> un_operateur, Edgy
[12:01] <stefg> kohr_: but hold on a sec... what are you going to use that drive for?
[12:01] <bradley> kohr_ maybe.  maybe.
[12:01] <steel_lady> ok, I installed java runtime, I installed the plugin and the page still does not work!!!
[12:01] <un_operateur> Enverex, OO2 has been out on edgy for ages now
[12:01] <un_operateur> !info openoffice.org edgy
[12:02] <ubotu> openoffice.org: OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 3 kB, installed size 28 kB
[12:02] <||cw> Moose: postfix is just the recieving part, for the checking part, you need pop3 or imap, courier is one of the best for this
[12:02] <Enverex> un_operateur, Edgy  is on OO2.0.4, not 2.1
[12:02] <toulouse> hey guys, i (attempted ) to install another OS on another partition, but when i asked me whether to install GRub or not, i said no, because i believe it is already on my system, but now i dont know how to get into that OS
[12:02] <kohr_> stefg, holding missilanious files, media etc
[12:02] <toulouse> anyone have suggestions?
[12:02] <Enverex> OO is 28k? That's some damn good compression.
[12:02] <||cw> Moose: i gott run, you'll probably want to search for a mail server howto
[12:02] <un_operateur> Enverex, err, metapackage
[12:02] <Moose> ||cw: Alright, well thanks for your help.
[12:02] <Enverex> (it was a joke)
[12:02] <un_operateur> !info openoffice.org feisty
[12:03] <MatthewV> toulouse, what was the other OS?
[12:03] <ubotu> openoffice.org: OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.1. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 3 kB, installed size 28 kB
[12:03] <toulouse> dreamlinux, it is morphix based
[12:03] <js_> when is the next ubuntu release due?
[12:03] <sivik> april
[12:03] <js_> cool
[12:03] <Enverex> js_, About 4 months time
[12:03] <stefg> kohr_:  it might be better to use the windows ext2ifs if you mainly use that for linux, and only need occasional access from win to it
[12:03] <steel_lady> anyone has the idea why it doesn't work? I even restarted the system!
[12:03] <Moose> How do I uninstall a package?
[12:03] <MatthewV> Enverex, i think thats a meta-package..
[12:03] <stefg> !ext2ifs
[12:03] <toulouse> MatthewV: dreamlinux, it's morphix based
[12:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext2ifs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:03] <Enverex> MatthewV, Yes I know, I already answered that it was a joke
[12:03] <sivik> Moose, via command line or gui?
[12:03] <||cw> Moose: apt-get remove foo
[12:03] <Moose> sivik: Command line
[12:03] <MatthewV> toulouse, basically you have to add another entry to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:04] <sivik> Moose: either sudo apt-get remove or sudo aptitude remove
[12:04] <robin__> hi. i want to print to a printer on a windows machine.i have absolutely no experience with this, sio i need it explained in simpkle terms please
[12:04] <stefg> kohr_: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[12:04] <sivik> robin__, use samba
[12:04] <Moose> Thanks.
[12:04] <un_operateur> Enverex, looks like you will have to wait for feisty or download the feisty OO packages and install them -- i dont recommend the latter
[12:04] <robin__> what is samba
[12:04] <toulouse> MatthewV: how would i go about doing that ?
[12:04] <MatthewV> toulouse, you can take a look at existing entries for an idea, and there may be some more info on the dreamlinux homepage
[12:04] <MatthewV> !grub
[12:04] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:04] <Enverex> un_operateur, damn, that sucks
[12:04] <sivik> !samba
[12:04] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:04] <MatthewV> toulouse, the last link might be able to help you
[12:04] <toulouse> ok
[12:04] <robin__> samba for ubuntu or windoze
[12:05] <sivik> robin__, ubuntu
[12:05] <robin__> cheers
[12:05] <robin__> i need it explained really simply coz i have never networked a printer
[12:05] <sivik> robin__, have you tried googling it or checking the forums
[12:05] <Enverex> un_operateur, I guess I'm used to Gentoo where you get whatever is out at the time, not having to wait for release cycles or whatever
[12:05] <MatthewV> robin__, there are a few guides on the wiki for networking printers
[12:05] <stefg> !PRINT | robin__
[12:05] <ubotu> robin__: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[12:06] <robin__> il check
[12:06] <steel_lady> one blonde metal girl here needs help!!!
[12:06] <sivik> steel_lady, whats the problem
[12:06] <robin__> baring in mind im usin edgy
[12:06] <un_operateur> Enverex, ubuntu and debian err on the side of stability for their audience -- there's an obvious buffer of extensive pre-release testing to go through first
[12:07] <steel_lady> I want to run some java pages. I installed java runtime and plugins but doesn't work still
[12:07] <Enverex> un_operateur, I'd have thought that would be the job of the ones that make the apps in the first place, but, fair enough
[12:07] <un_operateur> Enverex, and it's not going to hurt you at all to work with OO2.0 :)
[12:07] <BlackDalek> Hello, quick question - what is minimum system requirements to install/run ubuntu 6.10? would it run on a small 400MHz P2 with 320Mb RAM and 30Gb hard drive space?
[12:07] <Enverex> un_operateur, I know, I'm just a bleeding edge person and OO 2.0 to 2.1 is a bug-fix, not an update
[12:08] <Enverex> (just a large bugfix)
[12:08] <k0ma> can someone help me partition my hd?
[12:08] <mnoir> Enverex: do you know what integration testing is?  how can the OO ppl test the integration in every distribution?
[12:08] <stefg> steel_lady: give me a url to check if it works for me, then i can possibly tell you what  to do
[12:08] <Rocito> can i install XFCE over regular gnome ubuntu without losing my gnome settings? i just want to be able to switch around between the two at leisure/preference/requirement
[12:08] <sivik> steel_lady, did you install i   sun-java5-plugin                - The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 5.0
[12:08] <steel_lady> yes
[12:08] <k0ma> i'm trying to make a partition for ubuntu and a fat32 partition share with my windows installation
[12:09] <sivik> steel_lady, did you restart the browser before you tried to use it
[12:09] <mnoir> Enverex: ubuntu is a production system, not a leading edge one - any change to any code is a retest
[12:09] <BlackDalek> is there a page which tell minimum requirements.. I can not find it on www.ubuntu.com anywhere.
[12:09] <ralyon> how do  get my pcmcia slots working which use irq 11 and I get 'irq 11: nobody cared (try booting with the "irqpoll" option)' and irqpoll gives me a soft cpu lock
[12:09] <Enverex> mnoir, True, I just thought with packages being "fixed" so to speak there is less to go wrong than on a compile based system
[12:09] <stefg> BlackDalek: say what you have, and we tell you what to run
[12:10] <robin__> none of ure gay links worked
[12:10] <steel_lady> ok, for check I am using one chat page that you have to know what to click because it is in croatian. other pages work, so if things might not work on some other I check by runing that
[12:10] <BlackDalek> ubuntu 6.10? would it run on a small 400MHz P2 with 320Mb RAM and 30Gb hard drive space?
[12:10] <mnoir> Enverex: i don't see what the difference is, with a robust build system delivering source is pretty much the same as delivering executables.  it all still needs testing appropriate to the user base
[12:10] <un_operateur> Enverex, well, if you feel brave you could include the feisty sources in sources.list and install the feisty OO packages .. but again, I don't recommend it for obvious reasons, you might suffer extensive hair-loss
[12:10] <sivik> steel_lady, try going to the java mainpage
[12:10] <steel_lady> sivik, look at http://chat.net.hr/chat.jsp
[12:11] <Enverex> un_operateur, I come from Gentoo. There is no remaining hair.
[12:11] <steel_lady> sivik, click on green letters than otn simple cha
[12:11] <whileimhere> Is there anyway to save the downloaded packages when a software package is installed via Synaptic? The reason I am asking is I want to re-install Ubuntu but do not want to re-download all the packages again.
[12:11] <sivik> steel_lady, let me try that
[12:11] <mnoir> Enverex: :))))
[12:11] <steel_lady> sivik after that it doesn't work for logi n
[12:11] <CaptainMorgan> anyone recommend another player besides amarok and rythmbox ?
[12:11] <stefg> BlackDalek: that's not too bad... RAM is fine, but you ight find xubuntu nicer, because of the slow CPU. xubuntu doesn't use that much ye-candy, so it's better for old CPUs
[12:12] <un_operateur> Enverex, well, extensive facial skin sagging syndrome then -- the next obvious increment :)
[12:12] <sivik> steel_lady, not sure, i can't figure out how to get logged in cause its not in english
[12:12] <n2diy> whileimhere: the packages are archived on your box, to see them type "locate *.deb"
[12:12] <BackPacker> whileimhere: You should find downloaded packages in /var/cache/apt/archives - they stay there until you do 'apt-get clean'
[12:12] <robin__> shit
[12:12] <un_operateur> n2diy, whileimhere .. /var/cache/apt/
[12:13] <steel_lady> sivik yes I know but just go to that page, click on green 'slazem se' and than on simple on the next page
[12:13] <sivik> steel_lady, i got a bunch more crap
[12:13] <steel_lady> sivik, after I click simple the next thing has a problem
[12:13] <whileimhere> Okay so if I copy the /var/cache/apt/ folder to say my networked drive and reimage the machine then copy them back will Synaptic detect them?
[12:13] <sivik> steel_lady, i go to some weird other webpage when i click on it
[12:14] <un_operateur> whileimhere, errm, i dont think it's as simple as that -- i dont think it will either -- you might need to copy the folder to the new machine and setup a local repository
[12:14] <cHuYitO_VeGa> Hello !!
[12:14] <whileimhere> I see
[12:14] <cHuYitO_VeGa> I nedd a help
[12:14] <steel_lady> is it possible to install java 6?
[12:14] <Enverex> I guess I'm in an unsatisfiable position. I want new apps, but I want my system to not break, heh (apps in the Gentoo dep chain tended to fail to compile to often and no-one cared). I guess it would be nice if it was like Windows (don't kill me). I can download and install the app when it becomes available and if it doesn't work, just use the old version. Problem with that is I'd need to compile from source on Linux and that would prese
[12:14] <Enverex> nt its own set of possible issues and Linux tends to install apps from source into 50 million different directories and normally without an uninstaller. I just wish there was a way to merge "new" with "stable", What if there was a "testing" repo (I don't mean for the next distro) that let you try out the new apps and see if they work and if they don't well you just stick to the one from the  stable repo...
[12:14] <whileimhere> That sounds more like a pain than its worth
[12:15] <Enverex> ... wow that was long
[12:15] <Moose> Is there any full mail relaying software out there that is just ready to go with some simple configuration? Not just sendmail, but where I can send AND receive from a windows based client...
[12:15] <cHuYitO_VeGa> I need a help with a problem with ubuntu
[12:15] <steel_lady> sivik, maybe the page needs java 6 and that is my problem?
[12:15] <sivik> steel_lady, maybe, possibly
[12:15] <CaptainMorgan> I ask because I can't get amarok to work on my 64bit machine
[12:15] <steel_lady> sivik, can I install java 6?
[12:15] <BackPacker> !ask | cHuYitO_VeGa
[12:15] <ubotu> cHuYitO_VeGa: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:15] <mnoir> Enverex: your first sentence puts you in a paradox - reliable and new are usually mutually exclusive :)
[12:16] <Rocito> can i install the XF4 or whatever its called that Xubuntu uses without losing my gnome? i wanna be able to switch around between the two
[12:16] <sivik> Rocito, yes
[12:16] <cHuYitO_VeGa> When i try to execute the console say this: Fallo de segmentacin (core dumped)
[12:16] <Enverex> mnoir, I guess that's why I liked Gentoo... when it actually worked, but the compile times and breakages eventually wore me down.
[12:16] <stefg> !bleeding edge
[12:16] <sivik> Rocito, just do a search in synmatic or aptitude and install it that way
[12:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bleeding edge - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:16] <bayziders> what is the equivlint of ipconfig(from windows) in ubuntu?
[12:16] <enyc> !iff
[12:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iff - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:16] <robin__> does anyone like trivium
[12:16] <sivik> bayziders, its called ifconfig
[12:16] <ikonia> bayziders: ifconfig
[12:16] <mnoir> Enverex: me too :)
[12:16] <robin__> theyre cool
[12:16] <robin__> gunshot to the head
[12:16] <BackPacker> cHuYitO_VeGa: What are you trying to execute?
[12:17] <ikonia> robin__: whats trivium
[12:17] <Rocito> ok thanks sivik, just wanted to be sure i wouldnt hose my gnome out :P
[12:17] <robin__> pull harder on the dtrings
[12:17] <robin__> trivium rock
[12:17] <robin__> trivium is music silly
[12:17] <sivik> Rocito, i have gnome, kde, and enlightenment all installed on this machine
[12:17] <cHuYitO_VeGa> archive x.c
[12:17] <robin__> heavy metal
[12:17] <Rocito> hm
[12:17] <ikonia> oooh right, nothing to do with ubuntu then
[12:17] <robin__> what world are u in
[12:17] <mnoir> bayziders: there are several pgms that do things like it - try ifconfig - it probably will do you
[12:17] <robin__> nope
[12:17] <Rocito> enlightenment is nice sivik?
[12:17] <sivik> Rocito, yes, i love it
[12:17] <BackPacker> cHuYitO_VeGa: that's not executable; it's source code; it needs to be compiled
[12:17] <sivik> Rocito, go to seerofsouls.com
[12:17] <cHuYitO_VeGa> gcc -o name x.c its ok but when y try execute name
[12:17] <robin__> evrything so boring hear apart from ubuntu gotta tlk bout music
[12:17] <cHuYitO_VeGa> Fallo de segmentacin (core dumped)
[12:17] <robin__> avenged sevenfold
[12:17] <mnoir> bayziders: but ip addr ls
[12:17] <mnoir> nm
[12:18] <ikonia> robin__: no music talk please - see #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:18] <robin__> children of bodem
[12:18] <Rocito> i need: lightweigth, and 2 desktops that i can switch between with keybindings
[12:18] <robin__> ytheres nutin wrong with me tlkin bout muisc
[12:18] <robin__> im not doing anythiong bad
[12:18] <ikonia> robin__: not in a support channel please
[12:18] <Rocito> does that sound like enlightenment to you sivik?
[12:18] <sivik> bayziders, you could also make a alias for ipconfig
[12:18] <robin__> y
[12:18] <robin__> y
[12:18] <robin__> y
[12:18] <robin__> y
[12:18] <BackPacker> cHuYitO_VeGa: then there's probably something wrong with the source code
[12:18] <sivik> Rocito, ?
[12:18] <robin__> i need answers
[12:18] <stefg> !ops
[12:18] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[12:18] <sivik> Rocito, enlightenment is a gui
[12:18] <un_operateur> robin__, because it gets in the way and you tick people off
[12:18] <robin__> fine i am ear for a reason
[12:18] <ikonia> robin__: please grow up or I'll call for opps
[12:19] <Rocito> sivik i need: lightweigth, and 2 desktops that i can switch between with keybindings
[12:19] <cHuYitO_VeGa> ok y try to download again for another mirror
[12:19] <sivik> Rocito, go either xfce or enligthenment
[12:19] <robin__> i need help with networked printer
[12:19] <robin__> opps?
[12:19] <sivik> robin__, find a howto
[12:19] <Rocito> ok getting enlightenment then :)
[12:19] <ikonia> ops
[12:19] <robin__> anyway back to the point
[12:20] <robin__> avenged sevenfold great band
[12:20] <robin__> guitars heavy metal !!!!
[12:20] <K1GPL> manny, edgy has turned into a real piece of crap
[12:20] <ikonia> !ops
[12:20] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[12:20] <robin__> dang
[12:20] <ikonia> robin__: sorry dude - your a pain
[12:20] <robin__> any way heavy metal rules
[12:20] <robin__> ahh well u are a pain
[12:20] <K1GPL> logging me off and not letting me get back
[12:20] <kalon33> what problem do you have ubotu ?
[12:20] <K1GPL> stupid distro thinks its on a laptop or something
[12:20] <robin__> ra ps rubbiush
[12:20] <steel_lady> nobody answered me, what if the page needs java 6?
[12:21] <robin__> ubuntu rules
[12:21] <sarcevic> i'm here again...how can i check if my server is connected to internet?
[12:21] <ikonia> steel_lady: almost nothing "needs" jaa 6
[12:21] <ikonia> java6
[12:21] <ikonia> sarcevic: ping something
[12:21] <robin__> anyone like "cheap trick"
[12:21] <ikonia> ughhh where are the ops when you need them
[12:21] <apokryphos> ikonia: what's the problem?
[12:21] <K1GPL> big daddy and the holding company
[12:21] <robin__> nooo
[12:21] <steel_lady> but that page obviously does because other java pages work in my browser
[12:21] <robin__> silly
[12:21] <un_operateur> steel_lady, if the page demands java6 ,, it needs to get real :)
[12:21] <sarcevic> :-( connect: Network is unreachable
[12:22] <robin__> god i love music
[12:22] <ikonia> apokryphos: bang on queue - thanks the problem is the user "robin__" constantly chatting about heavy metal and causing interuption
[12:22] <robin__> i play guitar
[12:22] <ikonia> thank you
[12:22] <K1GPL> oh, wait, i was thinking of cheap thrills
[12:22] <Alarm> after removing for example the mythtv package, some libraries stay still installed that were installed during the mythtv installation. whats the safest way to remove every library and every file that has to do with mythtv ? (mythtv was an example, with every application actually)
[12:22] <steel_lady> I love heavy metal also!!!
[12:22] <apokryphos> !offtopic
[12:22] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:23] <stefg> steel_lady: but rather get your java fixed, music isn't just topic in here
[12:23] <mnoir> Alarm: if the libs are not needed by any other app, there is an orphan harvester - sec
[12:23] <steel_lady> yes but how if nobody is helping?
[12:23] <robin__> im bak
[12:23] <robin__> #so bk to heavy metal
[12:23] <robin__> is alec here
[12:23] <robin__> alec
[12:23] <steel_lady> in another words it is not possible to put java 6?
[12:23] <robin__> alecjww
[12:23] <stefg> steel_lady: i tried, you were't interested
[12:23] <robin__> come out
[12:23] <ikonia> !ops
[12:23] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[12:23] <un_operateur> Alarm, usually -- sudo aptitude remove mythtv         removes all unneeded libs
[12:23] <apokryphos> ikonia: calm down
[12:23] <ikonia> ahh hthanks
[12:23] <ikonia> sorry
[12:24] <apokryphos> no need to do that, you know I'm around
[12:24] <steel_lady> stefg I didn't see you
[12:24] <mnoir> Alarm: deborphan and gtkorphan are the pkgs you want
[12:24] <ikonia> didn't know you'd not gone
[12:24] <Alarm> thanks
[12:24] <apokryphos> well, you didn't try :)
[12:24] <Alarm> and how about to remove every single lib that was installed and want them to be removed ?
[12:24] <jmdc> exit
[12:24] <ikonia> apokryphos: saw you "un op" thought you'd left
[12:24] <ikonia> apologies
[12:24] <Alarm> something like to clean up my system from that in-uninstallation
[12:24] <un_operateur> Alarm, just do this -- sudo aptitude remove mythtv
[12:25] <Alarm> its not just about mythtv, its generaly that i want to clean my system
[12:25] <apokryphos> ikonia: no worries
[12:25] <un_operateur> ikonia, eh? :>>
[12:25] <Mba7eth> hi everyone i have a Q !!!
[12:25] <mnoir> Alarm: if they are still used by something i don't think you want to get rid of them
[12:25] <ikonia> Alarm: just use apt to remove what you want to go
[12:25] <Alarm> okie, thanks
[12:25] <stefg> steel_lady: so you want to chat on a site which has a java6 chat-applet... hmmm, bad idea. can't you just use your IRC clinet fot tha?
[12:25] <mnoir> Alarm: if they are not needed, gtkorphan will nuke them
[12:26] <BackPacker> !ask | Mba7eth
[12:26] <ubotu> Mba7eth: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:26] <Mba7eth> why i cant run 2 different audio applications at the same time ?
[12:26] <mikeconcepts2> uname -r indicates I have
[12:26] <mikeconcepts2> 2.6.17-10-generic
[12:26] <Mba7eth> ubotu : thanx
[12:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:26] <steel_lady> stefg no, I can not
[12:26] <Enverex> BackPacker, What if the question was if you can ask questions? :P OH NOES paradox!
[12:26] <mgardner> hi all, I've mounted some shares over samba in fstab but I cannot write to them, only read, I have rw set, is seems like I don't have permissions.  Can anyone help?
[12:26] <Alarm> mnoir,  hope this wont remove also used libs :)
[12:26] <mase> why is it every time i drag a window or scroll its all "laggy" ? my refresh rate is at 85hz when i went to monitor settings..
[12:26] <mikeconcepts2> I'd like to instal a program that automatically keeps the headers up to date, even if the kernel changes
[12:26] <mnoir> Alarm: me too
[12:26] <steel_lady> stefg, I live in a foreign country and there I communicate with people from my country
[12:26] <BackPacker> Enverex: Sorry, what was the question again?   :-)
[12:26] <SpAc> Ok, I'm back in business with Ubuntu!
[12:27] <Alarm> ehehehe allright :)
[12:27] <un_operateur> mgardner, you need to check both the mount permissions as well as permissions on the share
[12:27] <mnoir> Alarm: snot supposed to
[12:27] <stefg> steel_lady: so please give me an url, so that i can see what it takes (or if it's possible) to get it going
[12:27] <RandomPerson> Hey, is there a program that does my homework and toast at the same time?
[12:27] <mikeconcepts2> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic or 386, which is correct?
[12:27] <sivik> mikeconcepts2, niether
[12:28] <un_operateur> mikeconcepts2, it's not everyday you need the kernel-headers -- so you just install them if and when you need them
[12:28] <mgardner> un_operateur, I think I have them set correctly.  I can browse to it and do read/write but not through the mounts
[12:28] <NkZ> Greetings guys
[12:28] <SpAc> I had a few headaches figuring out which way was the best to handle my dual monitors. I ended up just going with TwinView.
[12:28] <steel_lady> stefg http://chat.net.hr/chat.jsp  first click on green 'slazem se' than click on 'simple' icon. from that step it doesnt work on the next page
[12:28] <Mba7eth> why i cant run 2 different audio applications at the same time ? anyone any idea ???
[12:28] <mikeconcepts2> so if and when I need them, generic or 386
[12:28] <sivik> mikeconcepts2, you have to type it correctly
[12:29] <Intelligitimate> I got what seems like a stupid question to me, but I am unable to find the answer to it. Is a normal DVD burner able to burn to a mini DVD, or do you need some sort of special mini DVD burner?
[12:29] <sivik> Intelligitimate, a normal one will do it
[12:29] <un_operateur> mgardner, how have you mounted this share? through nautilus?
[12:29] <stefg> steel_lady: i have a login prompt.. do you get to that pont too?
[12:29] <NkZ> I have a question: Sometimes after running games, when closing them ( For Example, Planet Penguin Racer) the "Window" hangs up. It does not close completely and makes me unable to unable to use the desktop, even when I can see it and move the mouse. I am using Beryl, What could I do to fix this?
[12:30] <mgardner> un_operateur, how so do you mean? As in Places>Connect To Server... ?
[12:30] <steel_lady> no, instead of login boxes i have grey hole in the page
[12:30] <un_operateur> mgardner, errm, i'm asking you how you mounted the share? :)
[12:30] <Alarm> alarm@rockpc:~$ sudo aptitute remove mythtv
[12:30] <Alarm> sudo: aptitute: command not found
[12:30] <stefg> steel_lady: alright,
[12:30] <Alarm> whats wrong in that ?
[12:30] <un_operateur> Alarm, aptitude*
[12:31] <mgardner> un_operateur, I mounted the drive in fstab.  Give me a sec and I'll paste bin the lines I used
[12:31] <Alarm> oops. sorry
[12:31] <SpAc> in gnome, is there a way to have set each monitor it's own wallpaper? Or do I have to just use gimp to stick them together?
[12:31] <gnomefreak> Alarm: aptitude
[12:31] <RandomPerson> isn't aptitude the updated version of apt on debian?
[12:31] <un_operateur> Alarm, like the "aptitude" exams you take for job interviews, etc
[12:31] <Alarm> ;)
[12:31] <gnomefreak> RandomPerson: no it is different on the way it handles packages
[12:31] <NkZ> I have a question: Sometimes after running games, when closing them ( For Example, Planet Penguin Racer) the "Window" hangs up. It does not close completely and makes me unable to use the desktop, even when I can see it and move the mouse. I am using Beryl, What could I do to fix this?
[12:31] <gleesond> any one know how to get s-video to work on an ati card?
[12:32] <Moose> Is there any full mail relaying software out there that is just ready to go with some simple configuration? Not just sendmail, but where I can send AND receive from a windows based client...
[12:32] <un_operateur> RandomPerson, i wouldnt say that -- I could call it an advanced apt-get (even thought it isnt really)
[12:32] <Alarm> sorry , thanks again for the help. i am just fighting to install mythtv and its a big pain to make that thing work especially when mysql is messing up things
[12:32] <Alarm> and cant find a good post in ubuntu forums of how to install it
[12:32] <RandomPerson> thanks, gnomefreak, un_operateur
[12:32] <livevil> someone can help me to allow my combo dvd reading udf dvd?
[12:33] <un_operateur> Moose, !postfix
[12:33] <pollywog> any ideas on configuring a rt2500 card in Edgy?
[12:33] <brandon2007> I need help with suspend mode it keeps waking up right after I suspend it in 6.10 desktop.
[12:33] <ikonia> pollywog: from what I've read - its a pain but possible
[12:33] <un_operateur> pollywog, is that the wireless card?
[12:33] <mgardner> un_operateur, here is paste bin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1369/
[12:33] <pollywog> the card worked in Linspire but I can't get it to work in Ubuntu
[12:33] <pollywog> yes
[12:33] <pollywog> wireless
[12:33] <ikonia> pollywog: a few people have come in here asking ofr the same problems
[12:33] <ikonia> pollywog: the trick is to use the gui as I understand it
[12:34] <sivik> my ati card still doesn't work properly
[12:34] <pollywog> I tried the trick
[12:34] <un_operateur> pollywog, IIRC there is a rt2500 package containing the drivers
[12:34] <pollywog> it doesn't work
[12:34] <pr0t0type> hi @ll
[12:34] <mnoir> SpAc: define monitor (as opposed to desktop) and why gimp would be used to set the wallpaler (i assume you mean the background of what is known as the root window
[12:34] <pollywog> un_operateur: I have it installed
[12:34] <stefg> steel_lady: ok, it /can/ work, we just have to figure out why the java in your browser does not work. Can you do a screenshot of a fullscreen firefox when you type 'about:plugins' in the address bar?
[12:34] <mnoir> wallpaler=wallpaper
[12:34] <ikonia> pollywog: the package does work, and its a lot easier to use the gui from the package
[12:34] <pollywog> the wifi interface is detected but that's it
[12:34] <NkZ> Anyone has the same Beryl window closing crash? Anyone knows how to fix it?
[12:35] <pr0t0type> the line 'wget http://beryl-mirror.lupine.me.uk/1609B551.gpg -O- | sudo apt-' doesn't work what am i doing wrong ?
[12:35] <pollywog> I suppose it is not a serious enough problem to go back to Linspire or Freespire
[12:35] <BackPacker> pollywog: for what it's worth, my Belkin rt2500 card worked out of the box with Dapper, Suse 10.0 and Mandrive 2007
[12:35] <pollywog> oic
[12:35] <toulouse> hey guys, i am installing another linux on a partition, when it asks me to install GRub, what should i say? yes, or no?
[12:35] <brandon2007> I need help with suspend mode it keeps waking up right after I suspend it in 6.10 desktop. Any current way to fix this?
[12:35] <SpAc> mnoir, dual monitor setup. I wouldn't use gimp to set the wallpaper, just to join two images together to make one that spans across both displays.
[12:35] <ikonia> BackPacker: how does that have any relevence ?
[12:35] <juano__> pr0t0type: sudo apt-get?
[12:35] <steel_lady> stefg, ok, I just have to see how to make an image of screenshot
[12:35] <ikonia> its a totally different card
[12:35] <un_operateur> mgardner, it looks good .. what happens if you do something like  -- sudo touch /mnt/SharedFile/foobar ?
[12:36] <BackPacker> ikonia: Maybe I'm wrong but I thought that the rt2500 refers to the chip the card uses
[12:36] <stefg> steel_lady: in gnome theres an app for that in Applicaions-Accessories
[12:36] <pollywog> and the network profiles menu does not work in Edgy
[12:36] <ikonia> it does - but they are different chipsets
[12:36] <riddlebox> how do I make up a deb package that has firmware for a tv tuner card?
[12:36] <sivik> riddlebox, what kind of tvtuner card?
[12:36] <ikonia> pollywog: it should do - I've seen two users do it
[12:36] <mgardner> un_operateur, nothing
[12:36] <toulouse> does grub cover multiple os's  over multiple partitions??
[12:36] <mnoir> SpAc: oh - I see - i do not know the answer but i bet that gnome does not know that it is two sep screens for the purpose of the background - your solution is clever
[12:36] <steel_lady> stefg that page gave me huuuge list of results and says everything is enabled
[12:37] <riddlebox> sivik, it is one that uses ivtv firmware
[12:37] <sivik> riddlebox, what brand?
[12:37] <un_operateur> toulouse, well, you don't have to -- but you might as well install it -- but remember to update grub under that installation later so that you can boot into this version too
[12:37] <brandon2007> I need help with suspend mode it keeps waking up right after I suspend it in 6.10 desktop. Any current way to fix this?
[12:37] <riddlebox> sivik, hauppage
[12:37] <stefg> steel_lady: does it mention java or jre?
[12:37] <BackPacker> ikonia: He said he wanted to configure an rt2500 card in Edgy...
[12:37] <ikonia> toulouse: grub is a boot loader - you can configure it to boot most things
[12:37] <mgardner> un_operateur, I know that may sound noobish, but it is kind of a noob question, what is touch?
[12:37] <ikonia> BackPacker: didn't you say a different card ?
[12:37] <pollywog> Ubuntu's KDE does not do WPA but then neither do Linspire and Freespire
[12:37] <steel_lady> yes a lot of times
[12:37] <pr0t0type>  juano__ i want to install the 3d desktop and im on a readme where i have to put new deb's to the source.list
[12:37] <sivik> riddlebox, did you follow the how to at wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:37] <BackPacker> ikonia: No, mine's a Belkin PCMCIA card that uses the rt2500 driver
[12:37] <SpAc> mnoir, that is correct, it sees it as one big screen. Was wondering if there is an app that might help me out (apart from gimp)
[12:37] <chovy> how do i bring down eth0 so i can use the modem?
[12:37] <un_operateur> mgardner, errm, touch creates a zer-length file if the file does not exist, otherwise it updates the access times on files
[12:37] <mnoir> mgardner: type man touch in a terminal window to read the doc
[12:37] <n2diy> ! touch
[12:38] <toulouse> un_operateur: so if i install it on that partition, i will Not be able to boot into ubuntu
[12:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about touch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:38] <sivik> chovy, sudo ifdown eth0
[12:38] <ikonia> ahhhhhhh
[12:38] <ikonia> apologies
[12:38] <mgardner> un_operateur, doing that now
[12:38] <BackPacker> ikonia: that's ok :-)
[12:38] <juano__> pr0t0type: you can use synaptic and them from there
[12:38] <brandon2007> I need help with suspend mode it keeps waking up right after I suspend it in 6.10 desktop. Any current way to fix this?
[12:38] <mgardner> un_operateur, I realized the stupidity of my question as I asked it
[12:38] <un_operateur> toulouse, correct, not until you update that grub to include an option for ubuntu
[12:38] <BackPacker> ikonia: at least he knows about other possibilities, e.g. Dapper
[12:38] <pollywog> I got a WinTV USB tv stick and in Debian I can't get it to work so it probably won't work in Ubuntu - it barely works in XP
[12:38] <riddlebox> sivik, not yet, I will look at it
[12:38] <sivik> riddlebox, thats what i did and got my working in mythtv
[12:38] <ikonia> pollywog: wintv usb suck in linux
[12:39] <rogue780> is there a way to set samba up so it doesn't require any username and password to view and modify a share?
[12:39] <un_operateur> mgardner, well, if nothing happened or no output was spit out, it indicates that the file was touched -- can you verify -- ls -l /mnt/SharedFile/foobar
[12:39] <juano__> pr0t0type: are you trying to install beryl?
[12:39] <un_operateur> rogue780, google "samba guest access"
[12:39] <ikonia> rogue780: yes, anonymous access
[12:39] <toulouse> un_operator: ok, so how do  I update Grub?
[12:39] <steel_lady> stefg, I have a lot of lines under GCJ Web Browser Plugin 0.92 and Java(TM) Plug-in 1.5.0_10-b03
[12:39] <pollywog> ikonia: I am not even sure it is a MythTV problem
[12:39] <mgardner> un_operateur, foobar as in a file name or directories ok as well
[12:39] <brandon2007> I need help with suspend mode it keeps waking up right after I suspend it in 6.10 desktop. Any current way to fix this?
[12:39] <NkZ> pr0t0type: There is a guide to Install Beryl at UbuntuForums.
[12:39] <stefg> steel_lady: hmmmm... then it should work, actually.  I know it sounds windowsish, but i'd suggest a reboot, and then try it again to have a defined starting point
[12:39] <riddlebox> sivik, I have it working, but when ubuntu puts a kernel update out I have to reinstall the ivtv drivers
[12:39] <steel_lady> stefg, they are those who mention java
[12:39] <pollywog> and I had trouble getting Mythtv to work
[12:39] <ikonia> pollywog: if your using usb tv - it won't be a mythproblem
[12:39] <un_operateur> !grub | toulouse
[12:39] <ubotu> toulouse: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:39] <sivik> riddlebox, thats pretty normal
[12:40] <steel_lady> stefg I already did the reboot
[12:40] <RedragonX> can some1 help me?
[12:40] <pr0t0type> thx i install beryl now with synaptic :)
[12:40] <un_operateur> mgardner, touch would have created a file
[12:40] <ikonia> RedragonX: whats up
[12:40] <camerong> hey i need some help.. i am trying to get my ATI card to work (via https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ) and have learned that i need to run the command "sudo aptitude install module-assistant build-essential debhelper debconf dh-make fakeroot libstdc++5" and then "linux-headers-$(uname -r)" to acquire some things from a server.. however i do not have internet connection on my ubuntu box so i plan to download the fi
[12:40] <riddlebox> sivik, thats why I would like to create ivtv debs, and when it happens, I can update it right away
[12:40] <stefg> steel_lady: tell me about your RAM and your CPU
[12:40] <sivik> riddlebox, thats extremely hard
[12:40] <ikonia> camerong: you can't
[12:40] <camerong> ..
[12:40] <mgardner> un_operateur, oh ok.  I must just be dense tonight.  Ok I touched another file in a directory, but ya I see what you're getting at
[12:40] <RedragonX> i get currupted graphics when i first run
[12:40] <camerong> so .. its impossible for me to ever use ubuntu..?
[12:40] <Jaykul> http://geobot.geoshell.org/p/17  <-- I have an Oops in ext3.  Is there anyone who can ... well, at least advise me on where I should report it?
[12:41] <mgardner> un_operateur, I get root root back on owner and group on that file
[12:41] <RedragonX> i cant see anything
[12:41] <ikonia> camerong: not unless you download the packages and burn them onto a cd
[12:41] <riddlebox> sivik, why would you say that?
[12:41] <pr0t0type> i can install the whole 3d desktop with synaptic is that right ??
[12:41] <un_operateur> mgardner, well, do the files get touched successfully, thats all i am after at this moment? :)
[12:41] <brandon2007> I NEED HELP with suspend mode it keeps waking up right after I suspend it in 6.10 desktop. Any current way to fix this? :(
[12:41] <steel_lady> stefg 1G RAM, 1.8 Intel centrino duo on DELL inspiron 6400
[12:41] <RedragonX> spo i cant install
[12:41] <camerong> well that sucks!!
[12:41] <camerong> thanks
[12:41] <stefg> steel_lady: ok, that easily runs java
[12:41] <ikonia> no problem
[12:41] <un_operateur> mgardner, ok, so root can write to the share -- but not normal users
[12:41] <sivik> riddlebox, try reading http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT8047723203.html
[12:41] <pollywog> camerong what was the problem?
[12:41] <mgardner> un_operateur, yes it updated time and such
[12:41] <camerong> ! wifi | camerong
[12:41] <ubotu> camerong: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:41] <pollywog> oh
[12:41] <pollywog> same here
[12:42] <NkZ> Pr0t0type: You can try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy?highlight=%28beryl%29
[12:42] <pollywog> but I am not going back to Linspire just because wifi won't work in Ubuntu
[12:42] <un_operateur> mgardner, errm, just a second
[12:42] <mgardner> un_operateur, sure
[12:42] <ikonia> pollywog: we know - you've told us twice
[12:42] <pollywog> Linspire is good but it has limitations
[12:42] <pollywog> k
[12:42] <brandon2007> I need help with suspend mode it keeps waking up right after I suspend it in 6.10 desktop. Any current way to fix this? :(
[12:42] <NkZ> Anyone has the same Beryl window closing crash? Anyone knows how to fix it?
[12:42] <n2diy> pollywog: curious, why did you bail out on linspire?
[12:42] <camerong> ok than there is another workaround i could use: i could set up my wifi connection to work on my ubuntu box so i can download the packages there.. thing is i need to do that without my xserver graphical user interface.. how would i go about setting it up at the command prompt?
[12:43] <pr0t0type> thx NkZ i reading it ;)
[12:43] <pollywog> n2diy: because I was unable to recompile a kernel
[12:43] <steel_lady> stefg, it is strange but other people tried to use some other pages for example for banking on my comp and the form worked but then when they clicked on apply button it didn't react
[12:43] <pollywog> or even configure it for Mythtv
[12:43] <RedragonX> ikonia
[12:43] <ikonia> camerong: you can use xorg - do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
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[12:43] <ikonia> camerong: then select "vesa"
[12:43] <ikonia> camerong: it will give poor performance but usable
[12:43] <NkZ> Gone. Take care guys!
[12:43] <n2diy> pollywog: why was that, new kernels weren't available?
[12:43] <brandon2007> Can anyone help me with suspend mode it keeps waking up right after I suspend it in 6.10 desktop. Any current way to fix this?
[12:44] <pollywog> n2diy: yes that was a big part of it
[12:44] <ikonia> brandon2007: stop asking ever 20 seconds please
[12:44] <Masqy> Does edgy use Firefox 2.0 ?
[12:44] <ikonia> Masqy: yes
[12:44] <n2diy> pollywog: interesting, thanks.
[12:44] <RedragonX> ikonia
[12:44] <steel_lady> stefg, if it works for you that maybe is not java but something else included in the page
[12:44] <ikonia> RedragonX: what ?
[12:44] <BULLE> brandon2007: the most likely cause is actualy your computers bios i would think, and then its not much to do about it
[12:44] <Masqy> and, are there any good reasons not to upgrade to it (I currently use 6.06)
[12:44] <ikonia> Masqy: lack of long term support
[12:44] <RedragonX> i cant see anything
[12:45] <ikonia> Masqy: more bleeding edge, changes to init
[12:45] <ikonia> etc
[12:45] <pollywog> but Freespire and Linspire detected all the hardware on the laptop, which Debian and Xandros would dnot do
[12:45] <camerong> ikonia: i am currrently set to vesa, i stil lneed the drivers for "startx" to do anything but return errors.. ive talked to 3 or 4 other poeple here about this and the only way i can really fix it is by setting up my internet on my ubuntu box by using commands at the "command prompt/bash/terminal/whatever its called"
[12:45] <brandon2007> BULLE: but suspend works for you?
[12:45] <Masqy> ikonia:  can you refer to the changes in init?
[12:45] <ikonia> camerong: fair enough
[12:45] <pollywog> I still use Debian on my two desktop machines
[12:45] <BULLE> brandon2007: on one of my machines, not on the other
[12:45] <camerong> ikonia: so how would i go about setting up my wifi at the terminal, do you think? and thank you for your help
[12:45] <ikonia> Masqy: yes, system V init has been replaced by an intergrated init system
[12:45] <Masqy> ouch!
[12:46] <ikonia> camerong: the guide on the forums does mention how to do it with the console
[12:46] <un_operateur> mgardner, check out the read/write access section here http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/HowToMountsmbfsSharesPermanently
[12:46] <brandon2007> BULLE: I guess it could be the bios ill check. but i dont think it is it.
[12:46] <Zambezi> Can I change my graficcard just like that
[12:46] <camerong> ikonia: thanks i will search the forums now unless you have the link offhand
[12:46] <Masqy> ikonia: just for making it a bit different from Debian, or is it really better? I mean, AFAIK, most people were quite ok with it..
[12:46] <ikonia> camerong: really, sorry  - not to hand
[12:46] <ReTyPe> Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/update-manager", line 32, in <module>    from UpdateManager.UpdateManager import UpdateManagerImportError: No module named UpdateManager.UpdateManager
[12:47] <camerong> ikonia: thanks again il update you on my progress later
[12:47] <stefg> steel_lady: so i get to the login prompt (which already is java) on ubuntu dapper , java 5, firefox 2.0... nothing special.
[12:47] <ikonia> Masqy: most people won't notice - I hate it but that because I like System V - I'm old school
[12:47] <BULLE> brandon2007: the big majority of reasons suspend doesnt work, is broken bios implementations, and its not anything you can do about it, except complain to the manufacturer
[12:47] <ab> k'
[12:47] <rabble> is it possible to use update-manage without a gui? is there a command line version of the update-manage script?
[12:47] <Masqy> ikonia: exactly, I mean, I use it since I use linux or so..
[12:47] <ikonia> camerong: also edgy uses the knew block id method of identifying disks - which may or may not make it upstream into the kernel
[12:48] <speyer> hi all
[12:48] <stefg> steel_lady: so it's hard to track don what's broken on your system, because a /relatively/ standard install works for me
[12:48] <brandon2007> BULLE: but it works with windows and it worked with dapper
[12:48] <speyer> why i cannot select file with my mouse simply when i click on it and move cursor ?
[12:48] <pollywog> Bulle: I think the manufacturers for the most part do not listen to Linux users
[12:48] <BULLE> brandon2007: hmmmz, if it worked with dapper, then im inclined to belive bios is not the issue indeed
[12:48] <BULLE> pollywog: true true
[12:48] <mgardner> un_operateur, awesome!  Thanks.  I think I may have saw this page before but I didn't catch the permissions section.  Thanks again!
[12:48] <steel_lady> stefg, what then? I have everything actualized! also there were some pages that didn't work so I couldn't buy plane tickets!
[12:48] <ikonia> Masqy: my opinion - edgy is testing the water on a few technologys - the next release may / may not contain/change again
[12:48] <un_operateur> mgardner, did it work ?
[12:48] <Jaykul> So, I'll take the lack of response as nobody in here being interested in an Oops in ext3
[12:48] <camerong> ikonia: i dont know what you mean about block ids and identifying disks etc.. but i can't find the wifi thread on ubuntuforums.org - i just searched
[12:48] <speyer> where can i add this option like it  works on my windows machine . any idea ?
[12:48] <pollywog> they act like Linux users are parolees
[12:49] <ikonia> camerong: check the wiki
[12:49] <steel_lady> stefg, somebody mantion to me some vbs or something strange like that that might have the problem
[12:49] <camerong> ikonia: thanks, will do
[12:49] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> Can someone please help me recover 30 files in 1 folder, these are people's accounts
[12:49] <stefg> steel_lady: i'm out of ideas... can it be your internet provider or some proxy?
[12:49] <ikonia> Masqy: the block id comment was for you not camerong
[12:49] <brandon2007> BULLE: hmmm its unfortunate that I can't have suspend mode..... Any suggestions or links for help?
[12:49] <speyer> in nautilus i  cannot select file while mouse click . and then move the cursor any idea ?
[12:49] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> Can someone please help me recover 30 files in 1 folder, these are people's accounts
[12:49] <mgardner> un_operateur, I haven't tried it yet, but it makes sense.  As I don't have a user and gid set for that line
[12:49] <ikonia> slmadhjflsadhkjf: what has happened to them
[12:49] <steel_lady> stefg, no it is not because it doesn't work either on another connection
[12:50] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> i deleted them and like an idiot i clicked empty trash can
[12:50] <pollywog> I think I will leave Mythtv on the machine in case I get some real hardware
[12:50] <un_operateur> mgardner, cool, i assume it'll work ok .. good luck :)
[12:50] <ikonia> slmadhjflsadhkjf: they are gone
[12:50] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> and these documents are for work.
[12:50] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> what/!?
[12:50] <ikonia> slmadhjflsadhkjf: they are gone
[12:50] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> there's no recovering?!
[12:50] <assasukasse> can someone please help me share files with a windows computer? i did put the folder in shared folder as smb, but from windows seems i can't connect what should i do
[12:50] <ikonia> no
[12:50] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> how the fuck is ubuntu secure if you can ever recover files
[12:50] <un_operateur> assasukasse, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/HowToMountsmbfsSharesPermanently
[12:50] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> windows is better than linux in other words.
[12:50] <Lynoure> slmadhjflsadhkjf: you have 30 users and no backups?
[12:50] <Flannel> !language slmadhjflsadhkjf
[12:51] <pollywog> slmadhjflsadhkjf: you kidding?
[12:51] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> no im not kdding
[12:51] <pollywog> yeah and language
[12:51] <ikonia> slmadhjflsadhkjf: go use windows then
[12:51] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> this is extremely serious.
[12:51] <brandon2007> Hmmmm...... Once again I must find the answers for myself......................................................................................................... WELL CYA PPL
[12:51] <Masqy> ikonia: I can't really get why people should spend time on developing their own init system..
[12:51] <pollywog> ever heard of backups?
[12:51] <gnomefreak> slmadhjflsadhkjf: please watch your language and take the offtopic topics to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:51] <Flannel> slmadhjflsadhkjf: You can "recover" files just as well in linux and windows, with a tool that scans your empty HD space for partial files
[12:51] <ikonia> Masqy: I agree
[12:51] <assasukasse> un_operateur seems site down..
[12:51] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> ok flannel if i JUST deleted them, how am i retrive them?
[12:52] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> it just happened no less than 20 minutes ago.
[12:52] <RedragonX> ikonia can u fix my problem
[12:52] <ikonia> slmadhjflsadhkjf: if its serious - you should a.) have taken a backup b.) have someone on site who knows how to use ext3 journeling recovery on contract
[12:52] <ikonia> RedragonX: no
[12:52] <un_operateur> assasukasse, impossible, i just went there not 30 second before you asked the question
[12:52] <steel_lady> stefg, remember that page I gave you? under those login boxes there is an orange line and another one with 4 links. I can see tham. but on whichever of them I click, I always get the same window
[12:52] <mby> hi All, where can I find info about version of my sound card drivers ??
[12:52] <RedragonX> who can
[12:52] <assasukasse> un_operateur i dunno then
[12:52] <stefg> steel_lady: hmmm, sorry. We found out that it's not a general problem, but a personal problem on your machine. java is installed, machine is powerful enough. That's where i run out of ideas... any local Linux user group in your area, or anyne els with input?
[12:52] <un_operateur> assasukasse, and i reloaded the page just now -- it works ok
[12:52] <ikonia> mby: its related to the kernel version
[12:52] <specialbuddy> can anyone help me with this problem: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-xorg~ is not installed
[12:52] <camerong> ikonia: before i can setup my wifi i need to download a package to use with the adaptor.. thats ahell of a catch 22 (so il never get it to work) guess il jkust uninstall ubuntu and find a new distro
[12:52] <assasukasse> un_operateur now it works..maybe dns problems..
[12:52] <un_operateur> assasukasse, you wanting to access the files from a windows computer?
[12:52] <truthfatal> Is there an equivalent app/script somewhere to replace the Ubuntu-updater applet (Little Orange Box thingy) for fluxbox?
[12:52] <camerong> thanks though, ttyl
[12:53] <assasukasse> yes un_operateur
[12:53] <philluk86> if i cant enable dma on my hard drive is it likely that im using the generic ide controller driver?
[12:53] <mby> ikonia: I hava alsa and kernel .20-5
[12:53] <steel_lady> stefg, no one person I knew refused to help me because of his personal reasons
[12:53] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> Can someone please help me recover 30 files in 1 folder, these are people's accounts
[12:53] <un_operateur> assasukasse, well, from the windows computer -- start - run - \\thiscomputersname\sharename
[12:53] <ikonia> mby: how odo you have that - what version are you uinsg
[12:53] <pollywog> what is Feisty Fawn is that the next version of Ubuntu?
[12:53] <craigbass1976> slmadhjflsadhkjf, what happened to them?
[12:53] <ikonia> slmadhjflsadhkjf: they are gone
[12:53] <assasukasse> un_operateur asks me username-password
[12:53] <speyer> is there anyway i can select files in nautilus with the mouse ? just go over files while clicking ?
[12:53] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> i clicked delete then clicked empty trash
[12:54] <un_operateur> assasukasse, errm, enter your username and password
[12:54] <craigbass1976> Anyone know why I can't mount up a windows share? mount -t smbfs //address/Documents /mnt won't work
[12:54] <gnomefreak> pollywog: feisty fawn is the next release set for april
[12:54] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> and i really need these files?
[12:54] <pollywog> oic I think it might support my rt2500
[12:54] <ikonia> !samba | craigbass1976
[12:54] <erisco> what can I do about getting graphical support? I do not believe ubuntu is picking up my Radeon 200 Xpress Series card
[12:54] <ubotu> craigbass1976: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:54] <assasukasse> un_operateur i entered ubuntu username and password and get an error only..
[12:54] <ikonia> slmadhjflsadhkjf: they are gone
[12:54] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> ikonia put me on ingnore
[12:54] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> ignore*
[12:54] <un_operateur> craigbass1976, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/HowToMountsmbfsSharesPermanently
[12:54] <craigbass1976> slmadhjflsadhkjf, As far as I know, you're out of luck without some sort of recovery tool, but even those are hard I think with ext3
[12:55] <pollywog> I think there is a rt2500 howto somewhere and I am trying to find it
[12:55] <ikonia> slmadhjflsadhkjf: it would be helpful if you didn't keep asking the channel every 30 seconds
[12:55] <BULLE> slmadhjflsadhkjf: ikonia is merely telling you the facts
[12:55] <Lynoure> slmadhjflsadhkjf: the trash is there so that you have a second chance to not delete. On the command line you would not have even that.
[12:55] <ikonia> it interupts the flow
[12:55] <un_operateur> assasukasse, please quote errors -- they are vital in troubleshooting
[12:55] <stefg> steel_lady: probably the site is just programmed for IE... i get the same windows as you (all equal)
[12:55] <assasukasse> un_operateur keeps asking me the password, over and over, never show me anything..
[12:55] <Flannel> slmadhjflsadhkjf: http://linux.sys-con.com/read/117909.htm  is one method, there are plenty of articles on the internet.
[12:56] <steel_lady> stefg but you get the login boxes on linux in firefox?
[12:56] <stefg> steel_lady: so i tend to blame it on the web designer and not on firefox
[12:56] <BULLE> slmadhjflsadhkjf: just google for undelete ext2 and ext3 to find out why undeletion on ext2/3 is so hard
[12:56] <Flannel> slmadhjflsadhkjf: there's even some software out there to do it.
[12:56] <stefg> steel_lady: yes
[12:56] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> is it really that hard to undelete 1 folder?
[12:56] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> screw it i have to attempt it.
[12:56] <Lynoure> slmadhjflsadhkjf: there are some tools that claim they can do recovery, but the first step always tends to be "stop using the filesystem right now"
[12:56] <steel_lady> but stefg I was runing that page normally before and I know thet there on the page said it is compatible with linux
[12:56] <anorion_> it wouldnt matter the number of folders... if you can do one you can do many
[12:56] <un_operateur> assasukasse, it looks like your samba users arent mapped to your system users yet -- please refer to one of the howtos here http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=samba+share+ubuntu&btnG=Search
[12:56] <anorion_> kinda faulty logic
[12:56] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> i can't lose people's account information that i just did today.
[12:56] <pollywog> I found some info that WPA should work
[12:56] <ikonia> slmadhjflsadhkjf: the files are gone -
[12:56] <ikonia> time to accept it
[12:57] <ikonia> and move on
[12:57] <pollywog> so why doesn't the gui show it as an option?
[12:57] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> ikonia i dont like you
[12:57] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> at all.
[12:57] <BULLE> slmadhjflsadhkjf: you just have
[12:57] <ikonia> thats not going to bring your files back
[12:57] <craigbass1976> ikonia, ok, well I'm using the syntax that I've been using for years, which is what is on the link you posted, and things still aren't going well.  I just went to a fedora box and mounted the share up with no trouble.  Is there somethign I need to instlal?  I did apt-get install samba, but I thought it was unnecessary since ubuntu is only going to be the client
[12:57] <ikonia> if you like me or not
[12:57] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> and i hope your pc burns your house down for being negative.
[12:57] <assasukasse> un_operateur i didn't connect to the "computer name" but on the ip..is the same no?
[12:57] <BULLE> slmadhjflsadhkjf: not liking ikonia is not going to fix your fuckup, basicly, read the url that was pasted, then you will understand why undeletion is not an option
[12:57] <Flannel> !language
[12:57] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:57] <aztek> i chmod'd -Rf 777 a folder and it's files. what is the "default" for a folder that's untarred as root so I can set it back.
[12:57] <erisco> eh? say where can I go for help on graphic card support? I am using Edgy Eft
[12:58] <ikonia> slmadhjflsadhkjf: my pc can burn down. I have backups :o)
[12:58] <Flannel> erisco: this is the place
[12:58] <pollywog> for the Ubuntu families
[12:58] <ikonia> I can recover files
[12:58] <BULLE> ikonia: LOL!
[12:58] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> BULLE you're fucup here.
[12:58] <mgardner> un_operateur, that worked like a charm.  Before I couldn't get "rename" in the context menu when I was browsing around.  Now it works like a charm.  Thanks!
[12:58] <un_operateur> assasukasse, yea, thats quite natural .. you'll need to setup winbind (part of samba) up to respond to name-queries
[12:58] <Timmmm> Rant: Dargh! Damn linux! It has no forwards compatibility *whatsoever*. That alone is reason enough to use windows.
[12:58] <slmadhjflsadhkjf> thanks a lot a-holes and thanks to those who gave me the link.
[12:58] <pollywog> I am going to put my computer in a bucket so my house won't burn
[12:58] <BULLE> slmadhjflsadhkjf: no, im not the one not spending 5 minutes reading up on ext3 undeletion, and not keeping backup
[12:58] <un_operateur> mgardner, you're welcome :)
[12:58] <Lynoure> slmadhjflsadhkjf: If you keep on that path, you'll prolly get banned.
[12:59] <erisco> Alrighty then Flannel. I do not believe ubuntu is picking up my graphic card... as I cannot exceed a 60 megahertz refresh rate, and I cannot exceed the 800x600 screen res. What should I be looking to do in order to resolve this issue?
[12:59] <pollywog> slmadhjflsadhkjf: how do we know you are not trying to retrieve data from someone else's drive?
[12:59] <ikonia> pollywog: it does'nt matter - the data is gone
[12:59] <Lynoure> pollywog: he quit.
[12:59] <pollywog> oh
[12:59] <pollywog> I type too slow
[12:59] <craigbass1976> ikonia, what do you think?   Here's the exact command    mount -t smbfs //192.168.0.73/Documents /mnt
[12:59] <ikonia> craigbass1976: hlooks reasonable
[01:00] <Mickey> Hi everyone, prob an easy one here
[01:00] <ikonia> Mickey: what a surprise
[01:00] <hairulfr> Anyone gotten Photoshop to work? I can get it started, but then after a coupla secs it freezes, anyone know what this might be?
[01:00] <un_operateur> craigbass1976, have you got the smbfs package installed?
[01:00] <craigbass1976> ikonia, yeah, I don't get it.  I totally just did that in Fedora (well, have to use cifs now in FC) and it wen't without a hitch.
[01:01] <craigbass1976> un_operateur, Maybe not.  I installed samba, but not smbfs.  That's probably it.
[01:01] <Gosha> how would i create a wine menu in the "Applications" menu?
[01:01] <Philluminati> Does anybody know if there is a version of Ubuntu that has para-virtualised support?
[01:01] <n33o> on ubuntu?
[01:01] <n33o> using what?
[01:01] <un_operateur> craigbass1976, wrong package .. samba is the server.. smbfs the client :)
[01:01] <Gosha> !menus
[01:01] <SaLoMoN> Es gibt Ei (!ei), Toast(!toast), Wurst/Kseteller (!zeug), nutella, Marmelade, Muesli, corn-flakes, joguhrt, Milch, Kaffee, gebratenen speck mit bernerwuerstel und Doener
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about menus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <Gosha> !menu
[01:01] <SaLoMoN> Es gibt Ei (!ei), Toast(!toast), Wurst/Kseteller (!zeug), nutella, Marmelade, Muesli, corn-flakes, joguhrt, Milch, Kaffee, gebratenen speck mit bernerwuerstel und Doener
[01:01] <ubotu> menu: generates programs menu for all menu-aware applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.29 (edgy), package size 379 kB, installed size 1580 kB
[01:02] <Gosha> !panel
[01:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about panel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:02] <Gosha> !panels
[01:02] <Gosha> :(
[01:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about panels - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:02] <pollywog> I setting up a ralink rt2500 more difficult than for Linksys rt2500?
[01:02] <pollywog> mine is ralink
[01:02] <craigbass1976> un_operateur, Oh, lookie there.  All done.  Duh....  I'll be ok in the morning, I swear.
[01:02] <erisco> !graphic
[01:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graphic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:02] <Flannel> !fixres | erisco
[01:02] <ubotu> erisco: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:02] <anorion_> gosha: right click, edit menu, and just add it... i think wine adds its own menu either on install of wine or install of the specific program, and perhaps only if that program would normally make a start menu entry
[01:02] <bung> could someone help me out, i wanted to know if there is a specific i686 version to install, and also if there are DVD releases with more stuff on them.. i only see 700mb files on the torrents page.
[01:02] <craigbass1976> ikonia, did you follow that?  I didn't have smbfs installed.  Didn't even know it was a package.
[01:03] <Mickey> hi (I am Completly new to this) I have installed ubuntu 64bit on my new laptop acer aspire 5101, and have a problem with the old wireless, it has detected the wireless facility, i have put in the ssid and wep key etc.. but in the top right hand corder of gnome the icon has a red sign on it. When i select this it syays 'SIOCIFFLAGS: No such device'  why is this?? please help!! thanks...
[01:03] <ikonia> craigbass1976: yeah you need smbfs
[01:03] <Flannel> bung: no, there isnt.  There is a DVD release.  I'll get you a link
[01:03] <paulcager> !tagsoup
[01:03] <bung> Flannel, thanks
[01:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tagsoup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:03] <ikonia> Mickey: your card isn't supported under 64 bit
[01:03] <paulcager> !java2html
[01:03] <ubotu> java2html: Highlight Java and C++ sources for WWW presentation. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.2-3 (edgy), package size 94 kB, installed size 344 kB
[01:03] <BULLE> bung: if your computer is connected to the internet, its most likely more efficient to just download the cd, and then install whatever other packages you want later, directly from the net
[01:03] <un_operateur> craigbass1976,  errm, if you didnt have smbfs before -- what error was mount giving you ?>
[01:04] <pollywog> I think the reason I can't get my ralink card to work in Ubuntu is that I have to manually put in the gateway
[01:04] <pollywog> I will need to find the gateway address on the router
[01:04] <junk1> help pls ?
[01:04] <ikonia> junk1: ask the question
[01:04] <craigbass1976> un_operateur, mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on....  The same stuff when I make a mistake, but I couldn't figure out how the command was wrong this time.  It wasn't I guess, just had no smbfs
[01:05] <Flannel> bung: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download scroll all the way down for the DVDs, I suppose it's only 6.06 that has a DVD.
[01:05] <steel_lady> stefg, something strange is happening, I am trying to do some tests with one of my friends
[01:05] <evilofisho> I'ma go sleep. Cya everyone.
[01:05] <un_operateur> craigbass1976, well next time just remember smbmount :)
[01:05] <PriceChild> !ask | junk1
[01:05] <ubotu> junk1: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:05] <junk1> ubunto 610 i think i need wireless to work an i need to install it on laptop
[01:05] <NET||abuse> anyone know where there are some real nice backgrounds ? :)
[01:05] <NET||abuse> i want new wallpaper
[01:05] <Mickey> my card is not supported! O deer, anything i can do? or do i need another distro??
[01:05] <PriceChild> junk1, what make of wireless?
[01:05] <un_operateur> NET||abuse, gnome-look.org
[01:05] <stefg> !wifi | Mickey
[01:06] <ubotu> Mickey: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:06] <junk1> does it have dma like knoppix? it helps some i need a fast start
[01:06] <NET||abuse> can't believe how well beryl is working on my machine now.. just upped to edgy after being on dapper for ages
[01:06] <craigbass1976> un_operateur, what's the difference between smbmount and mount -t smbfs ?  Just curious
[01:06] <erisco> could some one give me that info again?
[01:06] <NET||abuse> and this is an old junker compaq, n610c, radeon mobility 7500
[01:06] <ikonia> Mickey: a none 64 bit distro
[01:06] <paulcager> !id3tools
[01:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about id3tools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:06] <bung> Flannel, thanks again
[01:06] <erisco> !xserver
[01:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:06] <paulcager> !eclipse
[01:06] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 412 kB
[01:06] <Gosha> !x
[01:06] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:07] <un_operateur> craigbass1976, smbmount is a script that does the mount for you IIRC .. it's part of the smbfs packag
[01:07] <paulcager> !eclipse-cdt
[01:07] <Gosha> !fishing
[01:07] <ubotu> eclipse-cdt: C/C++ Development Tools for Eclipse. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.1-3 (edgy), package size 17049 kB, installed size 21896 kB
[01:07] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[01:07] <user01> how do i change the default file type associations?
[01:07] <anorion_> !botsnack
[01:07] <ubotu> Yum!
[01:07] <sarcevic> again here...how can i change the gateway address in my eth0?
[01:08] <sarcevic> i can't find the correct syntax
[01:08] <user01> user01: mime assocations i guess . . .
[01:08] <assasukasse> thanks un_operateur i was able to make it work
[01:08] <un_operateur> assasukasse, cool :) what did you have to do?
[01:08] <Flannel> sarcevic: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[01:09] <sarcevic> i find it
[01:09] <fokuslee> un_operateur, hey remember u helped me with the chown of my fat32 drive? turn out u can set owner by adding uid=`ur uid` in the mount option colum
[01:09] <sarcevic> thanks
[01:09] <un_operateur> fokuslee, ahh, interesting -- seems you do the same for samba shares too .. as we just found out :)
[01:09] <fokuslee> hehe : )
[01:10] <un_operateur> fokuslee, i'll make a point -- thanks, much appreciated :)
[01:10] <theBishop> is there any software similar to GnuCash that's a bit more "modern"?
[01:10] <fokuslee> un_operatuer yeah i don't have to worri about samba i don't have window file sharing : )
[01:10] <fokuslee> un_operateur:  oh i already made a post i think it can help others too : )
[01:11] <camer0ff> how do i install firefox 2.0?
[01:11] <un_operateur> fokuslee, brilliant .. on the forums or wiki?
[01:11] <Flannel> !firefox | camer0ff
[01:11] <ubotu> camer0ff: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[01:11] <camer0ff> have downloaded the tar.gz file
[01:11] <ikonia> camer0ff: is an update in edy
[01:11] <ikonia> camer0ff: don't use the tar file
[01:11] <camer0ff> kk
[01:11] <ikonia> camer0ff: use apt
[01:11] <camer0ff> apt-get firefox?
[01:11] <ReTyPe> E: java-gcj-compat-dev: subproces post-installation script gaf een foutwaarde 1 terug
[01:12] <fokuslee> un_operateur: forums in genernal help called mounting fat32 the right way, i mentioned u too hehe
[01:12] <Flannel> camer0ff: read the link ubotu gave you
[01:12] <un_operateur> fokuslee, ha ha, thanks :)) nice
[01:12] <camer0ff> yeah its loading
[01:12] <aztek> how do i see what the chmod "value" is for a folder?
[01:12] <ikonia> aztek: ls -la
[01:13] <linux_kid> Why does IE think that .xhtml files are not web pages but are instead download files?
[01:13] <Flannel> linux_kid: because IE is stupid
[01:13] <etank> cause ie is stupid
[01:13] <aztek> IE is software, it can't be stupid
[01:13] <etank> oops too slow
[01:13] <ikonia> linux_kid: how is that anything to do with ubuntu
[01:14] <linux_kid> Flannel: ya i know that, but im a web designer and need xhtml files to work in ie
[01:14] <Flannel> linux_kid: #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:14] <stefg> linux_kid: why d questions about IE get ignord here?
[01:14] <linux_kid> ikonia: because web design can be done in ubuntu lol
[01:14] <un_operateur> linux_kid, you'll also need to get your webserver to mark .xhtml files as html content
[01:14] <junk1> i need 1 on 1 walk through for the wireless card set up an install
[01:14] <etank> design for firefox instead
[01:14] <anorion_> wouldn't it be odd to see messages that a website is not compatable with a particular browser? you see it all the time, try mapleglobal.com in firefox for example
[01:15] <Enverex> Does anyone know an easy way to transcode from Quicktime to XviD (or similar format)?
[01:15] <anorion_> that would get the ie people to change
[01:15] <jhalstead> I have a game that requires GCC 4.2  but the version in Synaptic is 4.1    I have looked and cannot find a download for this deb or otherwise
[01:15] <linux_kid> un_oprateur: could you walk me through that?
[01:15] <Flannel> linux_kid: I'll explain it all in -offtopic
[01:15] <Alarm> how can i completely remove mysql from my ubuntu system ? i did remove it with the apt manager as also with aptitude also autoremove, but when i install it , the screen during the installation that asks for the password doesnt appear anymore. which means some 'access' files still remained inside. is there any way to restore everything as in the begining again and start over again ?
[01:15] <linux_kid> Flannel: thanks
[01:15] <erisco> yay, graphics card is now working :D
[01:15] <erisco> finally a decent screen size
[01:16] <erisco> I notice on edgy eft how there is only two desktops... unlike the previous versions which have four. How can I get the other two back?
[01:16] <junk1> can someone walk me through wireless card set up than install
[01:16] <stefg> !wifi | junk1
[01:16] <ubotu> junk1: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:16] <etank> right click on the pager and click preferences
[01:17] <pollywog> my wifi password shows in /etc/network/interfaces and that file is chmod 644
[01:17] <etank> change the number of desktops
[01:17] <junk1> ugh
[01:17] <pollywog> what is that all about?
[01:18] <etank> that was for erisco
[01:18] <stefg> for no particular reason: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[01:18] <erisco> etank, pager? I'm not quite sure what you are referring to
[01:18] <junk1> i think i tryd everything it sees the card its active but it dont work
[01:18] <erisco> etank, oh I see what you mean! Thanks
[01:19] <erisco> etank, wow you can even have more than four. Neato :)
[01:19] <etank> erisco wherre the two desktops are on the lower right hand corner of the screen
[01:19] <etank> erisco sure
[01:19] <etank> erisco even add names to them if you want
[01:19] <erisco> I think four is what I am used to though... shouldn't need more
[01:19] <erisco> names? what will names do? *Shrugs*
[01:20] <DrNic1> hi all.  for someone who doesn't want or know how to write complex backup scrips using tar, is there a simple backup program with a nice GUI a new user can use?
[01:20] <erUSUL> !backup
[01:20] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[01:20] <junk1> 900+ people an no one to walk me through it nice hell for this i should stay with xp at least with that i never got  ignored
[01:20] <junk1> see ya
[01:20] <riotkittie> uhhh
[01:21] <specialbuddy> can anyone help me fix kdm?
[01:21] <DrNic1> cheers :)
[01:21] <mnoir> !anyone | specialbuddy
[01:21] <ubotu> specialbuddy: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:21] <riotkittie> specialbuddy: probably out of my league, but what problem are you having?
[01:21] <ReTyPe> i need some help, i always get an python script error when i use apt: http://rafb.net/p/GpeBbl19.html
[01:22] <steel_lady> I don't know if it is due to sam settings but my whole display looks ugly, letters are somehow smeared and like it laks contrast
[01:22] <Rprp>   [daedalus]  _Pan_ beasty Burn^ cafuego cafuego_ DDB_OLD dirksr DrArcheh dromer dv5237 Exposure Exposure` Fergy Filbert fix-- Gh0sty gotiniens Gtux HiddenWolf iKoen Jaac JanC Jeeves__ jk joolz jpjacobs jurp5 KenSentMe Knorrie lawine lgespee_ LoCoBot matjan Mika_ misnix n1c0las OffHand Passenger Petrov Qball Rawh Rawplayer ReTyPe Rprp Rroet_ Seveas siegie Sjimmie slicer Solatis Stonehead stvn susscorfa svdgraaf svg SWAT tehmaze TMM totalwor1age u
[01:22] <Rprp> botu uws wouterh yamal
[01:22] <NET||abuse> right, next on the todo list,, trying to get my pcmcia broadcom wifi card to work,, lspci lists it as bcm4306 chipset
[01:22] <specialbuddy> well I was messing with xserver and now kdm doesn't work
[01:22] <NET||abuse> !bcm43xx
[01:22] <ys76> get yourself?
[01:22] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:22] <mnoir> specialbuddy: define 'doesn't work'?
[01:23] <mnoir> also define 'messing'
[01:23] <NET||abuse> nothing on bcm43xx on that page,, that sucks
[01:23] <NET||abuse> stupid ubotu
[01:23] <specialbuddy> well I turn on my computer and I have to login at a black and white screen
[01:23] <specialbuddy> a terminal
[01:23] <mby> HOW can I find out what version of sound card driver or graphic card I use ???????????/
[01:23] <riotkittie> specialbuddy: at a prompt... sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:24] <riotkittie> it will reconfigure X, undoing whatever changes that you made
[01:24] <riotkittie> that caused it to break ;p
[01:24] <specialbuddy> will that fix kdm?
[01:24] <erUSUL> specialbuddy: have you instaled the server version? if so that's normal behavior a server does not need a gui
[01:24] <riotkittie> it should
[01:24] <user01> how do i open media files on an ssh server in vlc?
[01:24] <specialbuddy> I didn't install server
[01:24] <riotkittie> specialbuddy: it will attempt to reconfigure Xorg automatically, using the correct settings
[01:24] <specialbuddy> I had a gui at first
[01:25] <specialbuddy> then I tried to install nvidia drivers
[01:25] <jrib> NET||abuse: search for "bcm43xx" on the page he gave you
[01:25] <specialbuddy> and screwed it up
[01:25] <riotkittie> then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start ... to start that service, if its not runninf
[01:25] <erUSUL> specialbuddy: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors (lines begin with (EE))
[01:25] <riotkittie> running
[01:25] <mby> HOW can I find out what version of sound card driver or graphic card I use ????????? pls
[01:26] <NET||abuse> jrib, yeh, i found that right after my previous statement,,, duh.. sorry
[01:26] <user01> what directory is ssh mounted under?
[01:26] <floyd> hi all
[01:26] <hakrzcode> user01, you will have to mount a server, using sftp though nautilus. Places->Connect to Server...
[01:26] <jrib> mby: apt-cache policy name_of_package
[01:26] <LucianSolaris> Hey, guys, i have some wierd behavior with ndiswrapper on a bcm4303 where at each reboot, it's either eth0 or wlan0 (it switches randomly with each shutdown/startup).  How do I get it to quit doing that (i want it to primary on one and stay that way)
[01:26] <jrib> NET||abuse: ok, apologize to ubotu :)
[01:26] <riotkittie> yes. apologize to teh bot. he is fragile :P
[01:26] <floyd> what is the use for x-chat
[01:26] <NET||abuse> ubotu, i'm sorry :(
[01:26] <ubotu> im: mail/news handling commands and Perl modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:148-5 (edgy), package size 310 kB, installed size 1260 kB
[01:26] <NET||abuse> haha,,
[01:26] <I-kido> !sorry
[01:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sorry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:26] <NET||abuse> ubotu, sorry
[01:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sorry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:27] <jrib> floyd: x-chat is an irc client
[01:27] <NET||abuse> haha
[01:27] <NET||abuse> nuts to it
[01:27] <I-kido> :)
[01:27] <floyd> i am ne to this
[01:27] <floyd> new
[01:27] <jrib> !irc | floyd
[01:27] <ubotu> floyd: irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[01:27] <snook353> why does firefox not use the "Read Mail" button?
[01:27] <floyd> tnk rib
[01:27] <snook353> or new "message button" under "Tools"?
[01:27] <jhalstead> anyone know the GCC 4.2 download location?
[01:28] <ikonia> jhalstead: if its not in the ubuntu repo's its not available
[01:28] <jrib> jhalstead: gnu.org?
[01:28] <Lurner> hey guys.. this should be easy for experienced users.. I'm on the desktop. I open a terminal.. I type  sudo apt-get install samba and the system tells me..  sudo: unable to lookup (computer name) via gethostbyname()
[01:28] <ikonia> jrib: if he has to ask, should he be bootstrapping a compiler ?
[01:28] <Lurner> how can i get sudo access ?
[01:28] <riotkittie> Lurner:  you changed your hostname?
[01:28] <ikonia> Lurner: your hostname is wrong in /etc/hostname
[01:28] <user01> hakrzcode: do you mean select ssh?  or should there be something specifically for sftp?
[01:28] <erUSUL> Lurner: dns settings
[01:29] <hakrzcode> sftp is the real protocol for nautilus. it is a sub-protocol for ssh. you have the correct option for Connect. @user01
[01:29] <Scabdates> im having terrible troubles partitioning! any help?
[01:29] <Lurner> during the install the system asked for thc computer name.. and I told it to change it from ubuntu to another name..
[01:29] <jrib> ikonia: probably not
[01:29] <morpheus74> When if the next Ubuntu release due out?
[01:29] <riotkittie> Lurner: did you reboot after all of that ?
[01:30] <Lurner> many times
[01:30] <jrib> morpheus74: april, 7.04 == april 2007
[01:30] <stefg> !feisty
[01:30] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[01:30] <Lurner> this was when I installed the system I named it
[01:30] <Scabdates> help?
[01:30] <user01> hakrzcode: because vlc isnt opening the files but totem is
[01:30] <ikonia> Scabdates: with what ?
[01:30] <Marupa> Is there any way to 'streamline' ubuntu graphically?  I don't think the 'prettiness' is needed.
[01:30] <ikonia> Marupa: install the server package
[01:30] <hairulfr> Gah, what's the command that displays ones current kernel version+
[01:30] <hairulfr> ?
[01:31] <jrib> hairulfr: uname -r
[01:31] <pollywog> uname -a
[01:31] <Scabdates> i made a linux specific partition with partition magic the partition was 10 gigs and the swap 500mb but when i reboot to apply i get 2 errors
[01:31] <riotkittie> Lurner: ... cat /etc/hosts  ... see if there's something odd there
[01:31] <Scabdates> the error are
[01:31] <Marupa> nothing you can do when you're already installed?
[01:31] <_caid_> Man, thank god for being able to boot ubuntu installer from windows, couldn't find a writable cd in the house
[01:31] <hairulfr> pollywog: Thank you!
[01:31] <hakrzcode> user01, ok. I guess it is not using gnome-filesystem. hmmm
[01:31] <Scabdates> error 1529 while executing batch error 1529: information mismatch in directory
[01:31] <Scabdates> ive already done CHKDSK
[01:31] <ikonia> Scabdates: thats a windows command
[01:31] <riotkittie> like the old hostname.
[01:31] <erUSUL> Scabdates: well i have very bad experiences with partition magic you should try to use other programs
[01:31] <Scabdates> i was doing it to check my hard disk for errors
[01:31] <user01> hakrzcode: is it being mounted in a directory?
[01:31] <morpheus74> I'm currently running 6.06 LTS.  What's the advantage of updating?
[01:32] <riotkittie> partition magic in not your friend
[01:32] <riotkittie> !gparted
[01:32] <ikonia> Scabdates: this is ubuntu - chkdisk is windows
[01:32] <ubotu> gparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[01:32] <ikonia> morpheus74: there isn't any really in my opinion
[01:32] <ikonia> morpheus74: bigger version numbers
[01:32] <Scabdates> ikonia, you seem to misunderstand, i did a chkdisk in windows to check the hardisk for errors because u must do that if u get that error sometimes
[01:32] <Scabdates> but it didnt work
[01:32] <user01> hakrzcode: like my hdas are under media?
[01:32] <Scabdates> erUSUL ay reccomendations?
[01:32] <Lurner> I looked at the file and it doesn't mention the word I have given the computer
[01:32] <hakrzcode> user01, it is a virtual mount. after the icon appears on your desktop, then right click and mount. Or just double click it. It should appear in the browse button, on open file.
[01:32] <ikonia> Scabdates: chkdisk checks "windows file systems" how is that related to ubuntu
[01:33] <steel_lady> stefg, are you still here?
[01:33] <adub> #dsniff ath0   <--- i get dsniff: nids_init:   then goes to next prompt  ??
[01:33] <pr0t0type> thx 4 helping me with 3d desktop :)
[01:33] <stefg> steel_lady: yes
[01:33] <Scabdates> it checks the hard disk for errors, and it also fixes them
[01:33] <Marupa> so there's no way to graphically streamline Ubuntu short of reinstalling?
[01:33] <ikonia> Scabdates: only windows file systems
[01:33] <Scabdates> forget it you arent listening
[01:33] <morpheus74> ikonia: So if I'm happy with 6.06, then there is not reason for me to update, right?
[01:33] <Scabdates> google the error and youll understand
[01:33] <ikonia> morpheus74: yup
[01:33] <steel_lady> stefg, I have an idea we might check
[01:33] <cafuego_> NET||abuse: Still need bcm43xx help?
[01:33] <ikonia> Scabdates: show me the error
[01:33] <pollywog> when I try to load a network profile it just locks up (edgy)
[01:34] <bayziders> How do I find out what my p,subnet mask,gateway,dns server,and mac addrese are?
[01:34] <user01> hakrzcode: right but could i access by entering sftp:// something something?
[01:34] <Marupa> Want to get my usual CPU usage from 10% to 1 or 2.
[01:34] <Scabdates> error 1529 while executing batch
[01:34] <stefg> steel_lady: so ?
[01:34] <floyd> brb to check out later
[01:34] <Scabdates> apparently this can sometimes mean a hard disk problem which CHKDISK can fix
[01:34] <Scabdates> can someone reccomend a partitioning software?
[01:34] <riotkittie> batch? the Partition Magic batch file?
[01:34] <erUSUL> Scabdates: i've always use a livecd (knoppix or even ubuntu) with qparted or gparted.... as usual when messing with partitions make backups as i can not make warranties of any class
[01:34] <NET||abuse> cafuego, i'm on my way with it
[01:34] <hakrzcode> sorry user01, but it is for the gnome apps, only. It is virtual.
[01:34] <steel_lady> stefg, compared to windows, the display in ubuntu looks very ugly. I might have some resolution problem, I have panoramic screen. might it be a problem?
[01:34] <NET||abuse> cafuego, so far i've downloaded my bufalo driver file from the readme.gz
[01:34] <cafuego_> NET||abuse: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/ for the joy of firmware packages.
[01:35] <NET||abuse> just reading the instructions :)
[01:35] <riotkittie> Scabdates: gparted. the Gnome Partition EDitor. DL the live disc
[01:35] <ikonia> Scabdates: partition magic
[01:35] <Masqy> How can I change the ubuntu logo in the top-left corner in GNOME?
[01:35] <ikonia> riotkittie: it won't work for him
[01:35] <hakrzcode> user01, you can throw a smbfs mount into your fstab, to make something a little more solid.
[01:35] <Lurner> I just scrolled back.. I had only good experiences with partion magic
[01:35] <bayziders> Does any one know?
[01:35] <riotkittie> ikonia: gparted wont?
[01:35] <steel_lady> stefg, my letters slook somehow unsharp and i don't like what I see visually in this system in general
[01:35] <riotkittie> bummer.
[01:35] <ikonia> riotkittie: nah
[01:35] <Scabdates> partition magic is the problem here ikonia
[01:35] <ikonia> Scabdates: really ?
[01:36] <riotkittie> Partition Magic is /vile/
[01:36] <stefg> steel_lady: ah... the libfreetype problem in edgy
[01:36] <adub> #dsniff ath0   <--- i get dsniff: nids_init:   then goes to next prompt  ??
[01:36] <Scabdates> im getting anothe rpartition program
[01:36] <ikonia> Scabdates: then you could "try" gparted in the ubuntu installer
[01:36] <steel_lady> stefg, you have solution for that?
[01:36] <user01> hakrzcode: i thought two linux machines should be able to just share files between them?
[01:36] <steel_lady> stefg, can it be the reason?
[01:36] <Lurner> I must have used it like 30 times during this install process and it has saved the day several times for me
[01:36] <ikonia> user01: they can
[01:37] <Scabdates> i did, but the ubuntu installer would give me some sort of mount error or something of that sort
[01:37] <user01> hakrzcode: linux if the computer is named "tod" i could just connect to that one
[01:37] <stefg> steel_lady: no, that's more of a cosmetical issue... java is not affected by that.
[01:37] <bayziders> Please?
[01:37] <hakrzcode> user01, yes they can. sftp is like ftp, but it is ssh. smb is like network neighborhood in windows.
[01:37] <riotkittie> steel_lady: is your monitor an LCD or CRT ?  have you tried fonts under preferences, and toying with settings there?
[01:37] <assasukasse> un_operateur i needed to put the smb password, and change the read write privileges as said in the guide
[01:38] <hakrzcode> user01, yes, you can.
[01:38] <riotkittie> Lurner: it's guarenteed to screw something up about 4 out of 5 times for me :P
[01:38] <user01> hakrzcode: but i thought smb was for connecting a linux to windows or vice versa...
[01:38] <steel_lady> riotkittie I have laptop
[01:38] <riotkittie> anything from errors in the partition table it writes to data loss.
[01:38] <stefg> steel_lady: you can try to run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig' and play with the settings
[01:38] <hakrzcode> user01, it is one of the many protocols to connect to linux, or windows.
[01:39] <hintswen> I need help installing Skype
[01:39] <erUSUL> !skype
[01:39] <un_operateur> assasukasse, cool :)
[01:39] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[01:39] <riotkittie> steel_lady: and you are using GNOME?
[01:39] <NET||abuse> anyone know if they can get bcm43xx signal strength meters to work at all??? it's not worked for me before..
[01:39] <steel_lady> riotkittie, preferences where? it is the general problem of the system graphics, not only letters
[01:39] <hintswen> thanks
[01:39] <steel_lady> riotkittie yes I use gnome
[01:39] <riotkittie> oh. steel_lady  ... do you know what kind of graphics card you have? perhaps you need a different driver .
[01:40] <Lurner> riotkitte.. do you have any more tips about my samba issue ? I looked in the hosts file and I found the lines 127.0.0.01 localhost then on the next line 127.0.1.1 name.networkname
[01:40] <riotkittie> or perhaps you need to manually tweak something in the xorg.conf
[01:40] <Milosch> stupid question - can edgy be installed in text mode
[01:40] <steel_lady> I don't know but I can look at the page, wait
[01:40] <Lurner> where name is the name of the computer and network is the name of the network here in the house
[01:40] <erUSUL> !alternate | Milosch
[01:40] <ubotu> Milosch: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[01:40] <steel_lady> or should I check somewhere in the system?
[01:40] <riotkittie> Milosch: not a stupid question. yes it can, you need the alt cd
[01:40] <user01> hakrzcode: so if i know the name of the computer and its domain . . . and it connects if i enter it as an ip, but not when i just put in the computer name...is there a dns error?
[01:41] <owned> lu
[01:41] <hintswen> aah even that's too confusing for me :(
[01:41] <user01> hakrzcode: like on windows i just enter \\tod\
[01:41] <hakrzcode> user01, you will have to put in the workgroup and computer, if it is not in your workgroup, if using smb. sftp, will use dns only, if you put name.
[01:41] <Lurner> I had a similar problem installing so I used the alt version, installed in oem mode
[01:42] <Milosch> erUSUL: joy
[01:42] <riotkittie> its a samba issue? i thought it was a sudo issue
[01:42] <LucianSolaris> owned
[01:42] <LucianSolaris> you there?
[01:42] <Dionysos22> what's a good C/C++ development environment? are there any graphical environments?
[01:42] <hakrzcode> user01, it will find if you put in workgroup and computer, if you connect with smb. It uses nmb to lookup the name.
[01:42] <LucianSolaris> you askin' for me?
[01:42] <Lurner> It's both.. can we go private for a moment ?
[01:42] <riotkittie> brb. i have a toddler attacking me
[01:42] <user01> hakrzcode: ok ill try that...
[01:43] <foutrelis> adaptr: I got my monitor to run at 72 Hz last night :)
[01:43] <steel_lady> riotkittie, I believe I might have ATI MobilityTM  Radeon X1300
[01:43] <Doow> Dionysos22: what platform?
[01:43] <LucianSolaris> Hey, anyone familiar with why ndiswrapper and a broadcom wireless card keeps switchin between eth0 and wlan0 everytime the system is started up?
[01:44] <Dionysos22> x86
[01:44] <Doow> Dionysos22: oops, for some reason I thought I was in ##c++
[01:44] <NET||abuse> cafuego, can you answer me a question or two on the config from bcm4306 chip??
[01:44] <Doow> Dionysos22: I use eclipse
[01:44] <Lurner> hey guys.. this should be easy for experienced users.. I'm on the desktop. I open a terminal.. I type  sudo apt-get install samba and the system tells me..  sudo: unable to lookup (computer name) via gethostbyname()
[01:45] <NET||abuse> cafuego, i'm really interested in being able to get signal strength readings from it, do you know if that's possible at al??
[01:45] <Milosch> thanks, riotkittie, erUSUL
[01:45] <Doow> Dionysos22: I never got anjuta to work properly, but I guess that's the "standard" gnome IDE
[01:45] <Dionysos22> very well, thanks a bunch
[01:45] <assasukasse> I am looking for a wifi signal monitor, not like gnome one, that is always 98% until it drops, i want something more REAL..what can i try?
[01:46] <stefg> steel_lady: I'm very tempted to suggest a dapper install to you (probably side by side withe edgy)... i had so many strange issues with edgy that i fialy decided to kick it (on my desktop-PC, but running it on my laptop)
[01:46] <bayziders> Ok since no one answerd i will ask again. How do I find out what my ip address,subnet mask,gateway,dns server,and mac addrese are
[01:46] <Doow> Dionysos22: oh, if you use eclipse you need to install CDT too (the c/c++ plugin)
[01:46] <user01> hakrzcode: is Windows Share smb?
[01:46] <hakrzcode> user01, yes.
[01:47] <Doow> bayziders: at least some of those are available through the command ifconfig
[01:47] <assasukasse> another question, i need skype for winzoze to run on ubuntu, with the webcam support, has someone ever got it run?
[01:47] <Jordan_U> assasukasse: So you want a wireless monitor other than network-manager?
[01:47] <steel_lady> stefg, I don't understand you, I have the last version of ubuntu, i thought it is dapper?
[01:47] <steel_lady> stefg, what is edgy?
[01:47] <bayziders> Doow : I need all of them to connect my xbox to my modem
[01:47] <assasukasse> yes Jordan_U
[01:47] <stefg> steel_lady: 6.10 is edgy, 6.06.1 lTS is dapper
[01:48] <Jordan_U> assasukasse: wifi-radar
[01:48] <stefg> !version | steel_lady
[01:48] <ubotu> steel_lady: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[01:48] <assasukasse> Jordan_U i have wifi radar, but no much strenght signal gauge..not at all
[01:48] <steel_lady> stefg ok I installed 6.06 and updated it to 6.10
[01:49] <LucianSolaris> Hey, anyone familiar with why ndiswrapper and a broadcom wireless card keeps switchin between eth0 and wlan0 everytime the system is started up and how to stop it?
[01:49] <steel_lady> stefg, i have edgy
[01:49] <NET||abuse> assasukasse, are you havin the same issue as me? i'm on bcm43xx drivers, they don't support signal strength metering
[01:49] <stefg> steel_lady: that might be the problem... edgy upgrades left many people with broken systems
[01:49] <crazy_bus> I'm trying to use soundconverter to convert some oggs to mp3s.  However even though I can listen to all the audio on the mp3's the time data is wrong.  The mp3s say that they are shorter than the oggs even though they have all the audio.  Does anyone know how to fix this?
[01:50] <bayziders> Doow: Do you know how to find them all?
[01:50] <steel_lady> stefg, what should I do? I can not reinstall system again! no way!!!
[01:50] <Doow> bayziders: sorry, not dns nor default gateway =(
[01:51] <stefg> steel_lady: but i don't want to speculate... actually i've no clue, what your trouble is, unless i have hands-on access to your machine
[01:51] <steel_lady> stefg, you think my problems mught be connected?
[01:51] <Doow> bayziders: I think everything should be somewhere under /proc though ^^
[01:51] <assasukasse> NET no i am on intel
[01:51] <BigMac> ikonia:  Do you remember me ?
[01:51] <assasukasse> Jordan_U do u know if kismeth works good?
[01:52] <Jordan_U> assasukasse: No, idea
[01:52] <Jordan_U> assasukasse: As sombody said earlier, it may be a driver problem rather than an application problem
[01:53] <bayziders> Ok well all i got from ifconfig was my ip and subnet mask where is the rest, here i will paste the read out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1380/
[01:53] <stefg> steel_lady: but a quick test would be to add a new user for testing purposes nd see, if this test-user (with all fresh configurations in his home-dir) has teh same issues
[01:53] <pollywog> should I use a 64 bit or 128 bit encryption key with WEP?  128 bit worked for me with Linspire
[01:53] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: What problem are you having?
[01:54] <Doow> bayziders: HWaddr is your mac address, dunno about the others
[01:54] <Jordan_U> pollywog: neither is very secure, but 128 is more so
[01:55] <pollywog> but does Ubuntu's wireless assistant suppor that?
[01:55] <pollywog> because I tried both and neither works
[01:55] <Jordan_U> pollywog: If your drivers do, yes
[01:55] <pollywog> 128 worked under Linspire with this same hardware
[01:55] <steel_lady> stefg, add user where?
[01:56] <stefg> steel_lady: ehe
[01:56] <Jordan_U> pollywog: Have you tried network-manager-gnome?
[01:56] <steel_lady> Jordan_U I have 2 problems: smeared display and some pages with java do not display, others do
[01:56] <stefg> steel_lady: there's a gui for it, but just run 'sudo adduser' from the terminal
[01:56] <pollywog> Jordan is that apt-gettable?
[01:56] <I-kido> stefg, i'll get some aspirine and coffe for u
[01:57] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: Did you install the sun JVM and update alternatives?
[01:57] <Tycho451> Hi guys
[01:57] <steel_lady> stefg I had enough, I already lost 2 weeks trying to fix my system, my boss is angry with me because I am not working, I am tired of reading manuals
[01:57] <specialbuddy> how do I get kdm to work again?
[01:57] <user01> hakrzcode: hmm it is still not letting me open files i see them  in gnome but it wont let me open
[01:57] <stefg> I-kido: thanks a lot... :-) but it's 2:00 am now, and i'm drunk enough to go to bed soon :-)
[01:57] <NET||abuse> back again,,, on wifi now,, yay
[01:57] <I-kido> loll
[01:58] <pollywog> steel_lady you could always try Linspire
[01:58] <I-kido> stefg NL?
[01:58] <un_operateur> specialbuddy, remove the other DMs and   sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm -plow
[01:58] <pollywog> if you can't get this to work
[01:58] <steel_lady> Jordan_U I do not know what is JVM I installed java runtime 5
[01:58] <stefg> I-kido: DE
[01:58] <dm> Is there any photoviewer to scroll through a select few pics and cycle through them on your desktop?
[01:58] <I-kido> cool
[01:58] <lakin> I'm trying to upgrade from Dapper to Edgy and get "can't find DistUpgradeViewGtk"  ...  Some googling revealed: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/67999 which instructs the installation of python-vte , but I've already got that installed !?
[01:58] <_caid_> to nobody special: thank you for writing the instructions on how to install ubuntu from windows
[01:58] <steel_lady> what is Linspire?
[01:58] <pollywog> it is a newbie friendly Linux
[01:58] <I-kido> Linspire is a windhoze clone
[01:58] <NET||abuse> ok, next... will youtube work in firefox??
[01:59] <pollywog> it is not a windows clone
[01:59] <steel_lady> I can not reinstall the systrem again!!!
[01:59] <pollywog> it is a Linux for Windows users
[01:59] <steel_lady> I installed so many things here
[01:59] <pollywog> k
[01:59] <NET||abuse> !flash
[01:59] <ys76> get yourself?
[01:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:59] <I-kido> pollywog, that's what i meant, :p
[01:59] <steel_lady> the problem is not in that I at to support all the components etcm new bu
[01:59] <stefg> steel_lady: actually a new install takes 30 minutes... but
[02:00] <Enverex> Does anyone know why "Quit" in Gnome now just logs me out rather than giving me the selection of what to do?
[02:00] <javaprog> Any1 knows the password to mysql after a fresh install ?
[02:00] <assasukasse> Jordan_U it can be, i posted an info on kismet forum, usually they know all those tricks and problems
[02:01] <stefg> steel_lady: it's just that my /personal/ experience with edgy wasn't too god, so i tend to make sceptical comments about it
[02:01] <steel_lady> stefg it is not difficult to install the system but I am already working in apache mysql and I installed million other things
[02:01] <Doow> javaprog: nope, but I do remember that it's somewhere in the documentation at the mysql site ( very good documentation at that )
[02:01] <un_operateur> javaprog, the install scripts should have prompted you for the password
[02:01] <steel_lady> how to find my old questions I posted in ubuntu forums? on other forums I see it when I click on my name but not here
[02:01] <stefg> steel_lady: i understand.... but if you are in a commercial environment you  might consider !support
[02:02] <stefg> !support
[02:02] <ubotu> For your support options, see http://www.ubuntu.com/support
[02:02] <pollywog> does this network manager for Gnome also do WPA?
[02:02] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: What is the output of: update-java-alternatives -l
[02:02] <pollywog> if I install wpa supplicant?
[02:02] <steel_lady> !support
[02:02] <javaprog> ok mabe i did not noticed i try install again, thx
[02:02] <capiira> hmm anyone know a trusty source for openoffice 2.1?
[02:02] <I-kido> Enverex, I had that problem once I had accidently uninstalled gnome session, gnome poewermanager
[02:02] <steel_lady> java-1.5.0-sun 53 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun
[02:02] <steel_lady> java-gcj 1041 /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj
[02:03] <un_operateur> javaprog, i think all you need is to  -- sudo dpkg-reconfigure  mysql-server -plow
[02:03] <pollywog> oh that reminds me I need to see if Ubuntu has java-package
[02:03] <dm> Is there any photoviewer to scroll through a select few pics and cycle through them on your desktop?
[02:04] <un_operateur> dm, you mean a wallpaper manager?
[02:04] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: run:   sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-1.5.0-sun
[02:04] <pollywog> f-spot perhaps, I don't recall whether it does slideshows
[02:04] <dm> un_operateur not really, i want some small frame on my desktop to do a slideshow of some pictures i select
[02:04] <Jordan_U> steel_lady:  see if that fixes your java problems
[02:04] <adub> dsniff: nids_init:   <---- i get that when i type          dsniff ath0  ??
[02:04] <steel_lady> I did
[02:04] <Pie-rate> My sound isn't working, it worked before but its broken now.
[02:04] <adub> please help someone
[02:04] <BigMac> Hey I was looking at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide which should help me get ubuntu running right because I was getting an error Mp BIOS 8540 on startup then a screen blank
[02:05] <BigMac> but how do I acsess the terminal from the start screen on the live cd
[02:05] <Falstius> why does the volume control in gnome insist on using the OSS mixer, or how can I get it to use ESD (or even ALSA)?
[02:05] <steel_lady> Jordan_U it did not
[02:05] <un_operateur> dm, errm, i've never come across something like that -- but maybe one of the adesklet/gdesklet applets can do something like it
[02:05] <dm> Anyone know of an APP that will allow me to have a frame on my desktop do a slideshow of pics i select
[02:06] <_caid_> How do I get WPA-PSK working? Can't find anything about it in the Networking dialog.
[02:06] <steel_lady> Jordan_U, you have any ideas for my smeared display?
[02:06] <Dave-Ubuntu> hello! who ready for a really dumb noob question ?
[02:06] <dm> un_operateur checked that, the gdesklet one sucks bad... havent done adesklet
[02:06] <un_operateur> !ask | Dave-Ubuntu
[02:06] <ubotu> Dave-Ubuntu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:06] <Jordan_U> !sound | Falstius
[02:06] <ubotu> Falstius: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[02:06] <Dave-Ubuntu> cheers un_operateur
[02:06] <pollywog> network-manager-gnome is an applet
[02:06] <pollywog> won't work unless I reboot to gnome
[02:07] <jrib> dm: feh can display slideshows
[02:07] <dm> jrib feh?
[02:07] <jrib> !feh | dm
[02:07] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: In what way smeared, generally blurry or like sombody smeared one part of it?
[02:07] <ubotu> feh: imlib2 based image viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.4-2 (edgy), package size 272 kB, installed size 528 kB
[02:07] <wilee85> does anyone know of a program that supports Voip in linux -- preferably one that can do it with MSN messenger?
[02:07] <Silver_Seagull> So, I got 6.06 installed and ATi drivers running like silk.  Then I decided (a little while later, after many restarts) to upgrade to 6.10.  BIG mistake.  This is what I get on boot: http://filelabs.net/my.php?file=boot_hangHbc6.jpg  help!
[02:07] <Pie-rate> My sound isn't working, it worked before but its broken now. I don't even know where to start in debugging it, i screwed with system->prefs->sound, ran test with every possible sound driver, and OSS made a short staticy blip, none of the others made any noise
[02:07] <un_operateur> jrib, he's after something that displays pictures on the desktop
[02:07] <stefg> !sound < Pie-rate
[02:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sound < Pie-rate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:08] <dm> !feh
[02:08] <ubotu> feh: imlib2 based image viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.4-2 (edgy), package size 272 kB, installed size 528 kB
[02:08] <wilee85> !voip
[02:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about voip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:08] <stefg> !sound > Pie-rate
[02:08] <jrib> dm: you can probably work something out to get it on the desktop.  With devilspie maybe
[02:08] <steel_lady> Jordan_U, the whole display looks like it lacks of contrast, not only letters but everything. like jpg saved in low resolution
[02:08] <n33o> ok.. so mouse isnt working in ubuntu
[02:08] <n33o> ???
[02:08] <dm> jrib lol not that interested in doing it, just curious if anyone knew a good ap
[02:08] <n33o> re-loaded config of xorg
[02:09] <Amadeo> How do people generally go about installing the newest Nvidia drivers, rather than 88.76?
[02:09] <wilee85> Silver_Seagull, did you have SSH server installed?
[02:09] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: What graphics card?
[02:09] <Dave-Ubuntu> ok - i bit the bullet and installed ubuntu onto my abit be6ii system - installled fine - found the sound card, nvisia card etc etc - but its ignored the HPT370 drives and second drive - i can see it in Device manager - and seem to be recognised properly there - but the "desktop" and filebrowser doesnt recognise it... baring in mind i'm a noob so dont laugh!
[02:09] <n33o> its running in 800x600 now
[02:09] <steel_lady> ATI radeon I think
[02:09] <un_operateur> !nvidia
[02:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:09] <n33o> but still each time i try to configure mouse it freaks out and i have to conf xorg again
[02:09] <n33o> using old trio v 64
[02:09] <steel_lady> How to check which graphic card I have?
[02:09] <n33o> and its a serial mouse
[02:09] <jrib> steel_lady: lspci
[02:09] <Tycho451> I have some trouble with 2 Problems. Wiki, FAQ and Forum hasn't brought up anything useful...
[02:09] <stefg> Amadeo: you need build-essential, the *.run package from nvidia and some clue
[02:09] <Dave-Ubuntu> hey I installed the nvisia drivers ok using automatix :P
[02:10] <Tycho451> (I'm a linux noob and use XUbuntu) First: I can't get OpenGL to work on my Radeon 9800 Pro (I tried different Guides, so I'm not sure what different stuff I apt-get (I didn't touch the kernel tough)
[02:10] <un_operateur> Dave-Ubuntu, does this command list the drives --  fdisk -l
[02:10] <Tycho451> And Second: my sound card is listed as card1 and the onboard device I can't deactivate is card0 (I tried stuff with /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base which din't work)
[02:10] <erisco> I have an alias for Apache on my Desktop, so that I can easily work with my server on my desktop. However files I create are not under the group of www-data for reading and writing, or do they allow others to read the files! It is extremely to open the terminal every time, type out a chmod command, and then a chown command, just to fix this one problem
[02:10] <Silver_Seagull> wilee85: Nope- vanilla, out-of-the-box except for the ATi drivers and their associated package conversion tools.  This EXACT same thing happens when I try to use the LiveCD
[02:10] <n33o> anyone?
[02:10] <n33o> mouse problemmm??
[02:10] <Amadeo> stef: "and some clue"?
[02:10] <erisco> is there a way that I can set default permissions for a directory? Or something?
[02:10] <n33o> which line must i edit in xorg
[02:10] <wilee85> Silver_Seagull, how did you install if the live cd didn't work?
[02:10] <Dave-Ubuntu> nope back to command prompt - no out put!
[02:10] <n33o> need to change mouse to.. dev/ttyS0
[02:11] <wilee85> Silver_Seagull, did you use open source drivers, or proprietary drivers?
[02:11] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: Look at your hardware in System -> Administration -> devices
[02:11] <Jordan_U> * device manager
[02:11] <Falstius> Jordan_U: most of that information is for hoary, and only OSS is available from the gnome mixer (when I'd like ALSA or ESD to be there).
[02:11] <Vluid> Tycho451: the second one ive solved by unloding the module
[02:11] <steel_lady> Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[02:11] <Tycho451> Vluid: how can I do that?
[02:11] <user01> hakrzcode: i mounted my smb server and vlc still wont read it
[02:12] <ciscosurfer> Hello everyone!
[02:12] <bruenig> !hi | ciscosurfer
[02:12] <ubotu> ciscosurfer: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:12] <un_operateur> Dave-Ubuntu, address me so i know you have replied or your posts will get lost in this busy channel :)
[02:12] <Pie-rate> My sound isn't working, it worked before but its broken now. I don't even know where to start in debugging it, i screwed with system->prefs->sound, ran test with every possible sound driver, and OSS made a short staticy blip, none of the others made any noise
[02:13] <user01> hakrzcode: oh wait...2 min later it loaded it . . .a simple mp3 file
[02:13] <Dave-Ubuntu> un_operateur: i get no output with fdisk -l
[02:13] <un_operateur> Dave-Ubuntu, errm, try  -- sudo fdisk -l
[02:13] <jrib> erisco: You can set default permissions for a directory with acl's maybe.  I've never actually tried them in practice
[02:13] <dakira> is anyone here good at package building?
[02:14] <Vluid> Tycho451: sudo rmmod <name of driver/module>
[02:14] <stefg> !motu
[02:14] <ubotu> motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[02:14] <Dave-Ubuntu> un_operateur: i get "invalid option -l"
[02:14] <jrib> !ask | dakira
[02:14] <ubotu> dakira: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:14] <stefg> !motu < dakira
[02:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about motu < dakira - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:14] <bruenig> !motu
[02:14] <ubotu> motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[02:14] <stefg> !motu |# dakira
[02:14] <ubotu> # dakira: motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[02:14] <dakira> well.. I've got problems with pbuilder and don't know what went wrong.. never happened before
[02:15] <un_operateur> erisco, what you could do is put your user in the apache user group (www-data i think) so that your user can read/write to those files
[02:15] <dakira> I thought maybe someone could habe a look at the output and might now whats wrong
[02:15] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: install 915resolution ( sudo apt-get install 915resolution )
[02:15] <un_operateur> Dave-Ubuntu, hmm maybe this -- sudo sh -c "fdisk -l"
[02:15] <erisco> un_operateur, but that doesn't solve anything because by default the files are under my username, not www-data
[02:15] <jrib> erisco: here's my bookmark on them: http://wiki.kaspersandberg.com/doku.php?id=howtos:acl
[02:16] <Silver_Seagull> wilee85: sorry- went to get a drink.  I used the ATi proprietary drivers, but restarted several times iwth no ill effects
[02:16] <steel_lady> Jordan_U: in process
[02:16] <erisco> jrib, I will take a look :)
[02:16] <Vluid> Tycho451: and lsmod shows you what modules are loaded
[02:16] <un_operateur> erisco, which user creates those files by default? your user or www-data
[02:16] <un_operateur> ?
[02:16] <erisco> un_operateur, I do...
[02:16] <steel_lady> Jordan_U should I restart nor or what?
[02:16] <Tycho451> Vluid:Ahh...thanks
[02:16] <dakira> ubotu: i know.. I know all the guides, too.. I just have a weird problem thought someone here might know what is wrong
[02:16] <Silver_Seagull> wilee85: However, I installed 6.06 from the alternative CD.  For 6.06 Ubuntu kept trying to set my monitor to 145Hz refresh, and I had to fix the xorg.conf by hand once it crashed out.
[02:16] <un_operateur> erisco, so, what you are trying to do is get apache to read those files?
[02:16] <Pie-rate> My sound doesn't work. It worked before. I followed the directions for debugging in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting it isn't muted, i can get it to make a little blip with sys->prefs->sound->select OSS->test. otherwise complete silence.
[02:16] <bruenig> !thanks | dakira
[02:16] <ubotu> dakira: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[02:16] <I-kido> !ubotu
[02:16] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:16] <eimajenthat> Got an APT question. I'm thinking about installing kubuntu-desktop, so I can see how the other half lives, but if I don't like it, is there an easy way to remove all those packages?
[02:17] <jrib> dakira: just pastebin the post, if someone can help they will try.  You can also try #ubuntu-motu
[02:17] <wilee85> Silver_Seagull, you should try the open source drivers. I've had nothing but problems with the ones from ATI when I was using my radeon 9550
[02:17] <jrib> dakira: s/post/error output
[02:17] <erisco> un_operateur, apache can read them just fine
[02:17] <Dave-Ubuntu> un_operateur: ok - i got output! my error - i get lots of /dev/** stuff - all sizes seem correct for the drives (even recognises the raided drive as 80gb (well 78gb) )
[02:17] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: I have never used this program before, try just restarting the GUI ( x ) by pressing ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:17] <Vluid> Tycho451: then i made a script which unloads the unwanted modules at startup
[02:17] <dakira> the interesting part is where it tries to do the make install: http://pastebin.ca/314767
[02:17] <erisco> un_operateur, however the file permissions say no one but me can do anything with the files, so a 403 error is brought up
[02:17] <Silver_Seagull> wilee85: It's not the drivers- they worked fine.  It is a problem with 6.10 that is stalling my rig
[02:17] <Ben_FP> hi everyone, any news on the suport of ATI Radeon X1950 pro video card for Ubuntu??
[02:17] <Pie-rate> ubotu: I am ubotu, annoying piece of crap that's spammed way too much and almost never has useful information
[02:17] <jinx099> eimajenthat: You can select which WM you run, so you dont need to uninstall kubuntu-desktop
[02:17] <tritium> Silver_Seagull: did you use the ubuntu packages of the fglrx drivers?
[02:17] <wilee85> Silver_Seagull, then go back to dapper and cross your fingers for feisty
[02:17] <Silver_Seagull> wilee85: the open source drivers that are used on the 6.10 LiveCD give me the same pattern of corruption on my screen
[02:18] <erisco> un_operateur, additionally the files absolutely must be under the group of www-data
[02:18] <dakira> jrib: nice.. I didn't know about that channel.. I'll head over there
[02:18] <wilee85> your video card might also have an error. slight chance, but a possibility
[02:18] <Tycho451> Vluid: Can't I keep it from loading in the first playe?
[02:18] <un_operateur> erisco, you can set a umask for that directory so that files created there have a set permission
[02:18] <Pie-rate> My sound doesn't work. It worked before. I followed the directions for debugging in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting it isn't muted, i can get it to make a little blip with sys->prefs->sound->select OSS->test. otherwise complete silence.
[02:18] <eimajenthat> jinx099: but I like my system lean, if I'm not using all those packages, I don't want them installed
[02:18] <erisco> un_operateur, any idea how to do that?
[02:18] <Silver_Seagull> tritium: Yes, but once again, this is not a driver thing.  The drivers were fine. It is 6.10 that is doing this.  LiveCD, my install (after it asked me to restart)
[02:19] <eimajenthat> I'm looking for a way to set a sort of "APT restore point"
[02:19] <tritium> Silver_Seagull: that's rather vague
[02:19] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: Did it work?
[02:19] <Silver_Seagull> tritium: Well http://filelabs.net/my.php?file=boot_hangHbc6.jpg <- that is all I get.  There are no errors or failures in a verbose boot either.
[02:19] <steel_lady> Jordan_U: I am shocked
[02:20] <Silver_Seagull> tritium: That is also what happens with the 6.10 LiveCD
[02:20] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: Is that a yes?
[02:20] <steel_lady> I have to sit half a meter closer
[02:20] <Jordan_U> :)
[02:20] <Vluid> Tycho451: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist <- there you can insert the unwanted modules
[02:20] <Ben_FP> does the liveCD 6.10 supporte ATI Radeon X1950 pro and X-Fi fatal!ty sound blaster card?
[02:21] <Dave-Ubuntu> un_operateur: ok - i got output! my error - i get lots of /dev/** stuff
[02:21] <Tycho451> Vluid: thx, I added it...do I have to restart?
[02:21] <Vluid> Tycho451: then they wont be loaded at all
[02:21] <steel_lady> Jordan_U: It worked although I must admit that in win my display was much nicer. I suppose this is the best I can see in ubuntu
[02:22] <tritium> steel_lady: that should not be the case.  Display quality should be identical.
[02:22] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: You should be able to get the exact same resolution in linux as you get in windows
[02:22] <erUSUL> Ben_FP: the x-fi is not supported in linux afaik
[02:22] <Pie-rate> My sound doesn't work. It WORKED BEFORE, and I can't figure out what could have broken. I followed the directions for debugging in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting it isn't muted, i can get it to make a little blip with sys->prefs->sound->select OSS->test. otherwise complete silence.
[02:22] <tritium> Pie-rate: before what point?
[02:22] <Vluid> Tycho451: yes
[02:22] <mince> I can't find mail program in my Ubuntu 6.10. How can I install it? I don't mean mail client, just the program "mail"
[02:22] <steel_lady> for example in your names, the letter m if it is bold or colored, is just 1 square
[02:22] <un_operateur> erisco, i was going to say - man umask  but a manpage for it doesnt seem to exist (on my system) -- so http://www.ncl.ac.uk/iss/unix/unixhelp/umask.html
[02:22] <Ben_FP> erUSUL do you know if people are going to make a driver available for linux?
[02:23] <mince> apt-get install mail doesn't work..
[02:23] <I-kido> !evolution | mince
[02:23] <ubotu> evolution: The groupware suite. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.1-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 5022 kB, installed size 38204 kB
[02:23] <un_operateur> Dave-Ubuntu, can you !pastebin the output of that command please?
[02:23] <mag_> Hey... can you help me with samba ? I have question or maybe a problem. well I have a long tree of folders. I had many groups of users, the problem is when the users look the folders... they look all the shared folders. they can't to see the arquitecture of a folders.. can you help me !... this is a example of sub directory that I have in smb.conf ::::: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1384/
[02:23] <tritium> mince: that's because there is no package "mail"
[02:23] <Pie-rate> tritium: I'm not sure. it worked recently, i was playing a dvd just yesterday
[02:23] <Moose> Could anyone here walk me through complete installation of a mail server? As in getting it set up and working for relaying...
[02:23] <erUSUL> Ben_FP: i cann not tell, creative is not know for being open source friendly
[02:23] <Ben_FP> aw crap!
[02:23] <tritium> easy there, Ben_FP
[02:23] <n33o> Ok .. reaally need help with mouse problem.
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu> !pasteibin dave@dave-desktop:~$ sudo fdisk -l
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu> Disk /dev/hda: 20.0 GB, 20020396032 bytes
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2434 cylinders
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu> /dev/hda1   *           1        2330    18715693+  83  Linux
[02:24] <mince> I-kido: I have "evolution" package already installed..
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu> /dev/hda2            2331        2434      835380    5  Extended
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu> /dev/hda5            2331        2434      835348+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[02:24] <jrib> !paste | Dave-Ubuntu
[02:24] <ubotu> Dave-Ubuntu: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu> Disk /dev/hdb: 40.0 GB, 40020664320 bytes
[02:24] <GuerrillaWon> hmm is there an easy way to see packages that didn't install correctly?
[02:24] <Pie-rate> !paste
[02:24] <ubotu> paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4865 cylinders
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[02:24] <Pie-rate> christ.
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu> /dev/hdb1   *           1        4865    39078081    7  HPFS/NTFS
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu> Disk /dev/hde: 40.0 GB, 40020664320 bytes
[02:24] <n33o> what do i need to change im xorg settings to get mouse working .. it is a serial mouse
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4865 cylinders
[02:24] <un_operateur> Dave-Ubuntu, stop
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[02:24] <steel_lady> also in all curved parts of letters there are grey pixels around black letters
[02:24] <I-kido> mince, menu - internet
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu> /dev/hde1               1        9731    78164226   42  SFS
[02:24] <Silver_Seagull> tritium: So, any ideas then on how to diagnose further?  I cannot ctrl+alt+f1 or ctrl+alt+bksp   out of the loading screen.
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu> Disk /dev/hdf: 40.0 GB, 40020664320 bytes
[02:24] <Dave-Ubuntu> 16 heads, 63 sectors/track, 77545 cylinders
[02:24] <mag_> Hey... can you help me with samba ? I have question or maybe a problem. well I have a long tree of folders. I had many groups of users, the problem is when the users look the folders... they look all the shared folders. they can't to see the arquitecture of a folders.. can you help me !... this is a example of sub directory that I have in smb.conf ::::: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1384/
[02:24] <erUSUL> Dave-Ubuntu: stop flooding the channel
[02:24] <Tycho451> Vluid: Hmm...shouldn't lsmod display a fglrx module as well?
[02:24] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: What kind of display do you have?
[02:24] <mince> I-kido: just I want to use mail program from terminal!!!
[02:24] <Moose> Could anyone here walk me through complete installation of a mail server? As in getting it set up and working for relaying...
[02:24] <n33o> can anyone help with mouse problem?
[02:25] <steel_lady> I have LCD 15 inch panoramic screen
[02:25] <un_operateur> !paste | Dave-Ubuntu
[02:25] <ubotu> Dave-Ubuntu: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[02:25] <Pie-rate> tritium: any ideas about how to get sound working?
[02:25] <Vluid> Tycho451: dont get qour question?
[02:25] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: Go into System -> Preferences -> Font
[02:25] <Vluid> Tycho451: dont get your question
[02:25] <LordUltimaDavid> ok i am having dvd burning problems, can someone help me or direct me to help(guide,wiki,forum)
[02:25] <steel_lady> ok and?
[02:25] <mag_> Hey... can you help me with samba ? I have question or maybe a problem. well I have a long tree of folders. I had many groups of users, the problem is when the users look the folders... they look all the shared folders. they can't to see the arquitecture of a folders.. can you help me !... this is a example of sub directory that I have in smb.conf ::::: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1384/
[02:25] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: choose subpixel smoothing
[02:25] <LordUltimaDavid> i already search myself, to no avail
[02:26] <tritium> Dave-Ubuntu: please don't paste next time
[02:26] <Dave-Ubuntu> sorry - I know now! my bad -
[02:26] <n33o> ubotu: fix mouse
[02:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix mouse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:26] <Biame> !pastebin
[02:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:26] <Dave-Ubuntu> un_operateur: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1386/
[02:26] <n33o> ubotu: mouse
[02:26] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[02:26] <steel_lady> ok
[02:26] <Tycho451> Vluid: I have a Radeon 9800 Pro and OpenGL isn't working. I haven't modified the kernel and thus (from my little understanding of linux) a module with the fglrx (ati binary driver) should be present, right?
[02:26] <tritium> Pie-rate: I haven't seen much of your problem, really.
[02:26] <steel_lady> should I do ctrl alt backspace again or what?
[02:27] <Donald> Hi folks
[02:27] <Moose> Could anyone here walk me through complete installation of a mail server? As in getting it set up and working for relaying...
[02:27] <LordUltimaDavid> hello
[02:27] <un_operateur> mag_, which share when viewed shows all other shares?? give us an example
[02:27] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: If that doesn't look better try the other font rendering options
[02:27] <I-kido> !elmo
[02:27] <ubotu> elmo: text-based mail-reader supporting SMTP and POP3. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.0-1.1 (edgy), package size 178 kB, installed size 516 kB
[02:28] <Pie-rate> My sound doesn't work. It WORKED BEFORE, I don't know what changed. I followed the directions for debugging in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting it isn't muted, i can get it to make a little blip with sys->prefs->sound->select OSS->test. otherwise complete silence.
[02:28] <Vluid> Tycho451: i do not have a radeon card... there is perhaps a way to install the original ati driver.
[02:28] <tritium> Pie-rate: please don't repeat too often.
[02:28] <Moose> Anyone? any ideas?
[02:29] <erUSUL> Moose: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
[02:29] <Pie-rate> tritium: its been ages, i have gaim fullscreen at 1920x1200 and its about 3 screens up
[02:29] <steel_lady> Jordan_U: in subpixel smoothing there are 4 options under details that I do not understand. should effect be immediate or I need to refresh something?
[02:29] <Dave-Ubuntu> un_operateur:  my output from sudo fdisk -l http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1386/
[02:29] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: it should be imediate
[02:29] <tritium> Pie-rate: if that's your definition of ages, please wait a few more ages between posts
[02:29] <Pie-rate> tritium: and i NEED to figure out how to fix this
[02:29] <LordUltimaDavid> !dvd
[02:29] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:29] <steel_lady> Jordan_U: shubpixel order, what is that?
[02:30] <LordUltimaDavid> !dvd-r
[02:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvd-r - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:30] <bayziders> If I have a program all coded in python how do i turn it into a like executable program? I think compile is the word.
[02:30] <wilee85> I just added a hard drive to my ubuntu server...how do I mount it permanently?
[02:30] <un_operateur> Dave-Ubuntu, errm, ok -- one drive seems to be detected but has a bad partition table /dev/hdf -- another /dev/hde contains an SFS partition which i am not sure can be read from linux -- so thats two drives that are accounted for
[02:30] <Tycho451> Vluid: I tried the binary from ati.com first, but I read the apt-get one would work better...anyway. Thanks for the help. I'll try rebooting as soon as I'm sure I disabled all modules from the wrong soundcard
[02:30] <erUSUL> bayziders: python is a interpreted language, no compilation
[02:30] <I-kido> !gnomebaker
[02:30] <jrib> bayziders: just run:  python file.py
[02:30] <ubotu> gnomebaker: application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 991 kB, installed size 2964 kB
[02:30] <Vluid> Tycho451: wait a moment ill send you some links
[02:31] <LordUltimaDavid> ok i am having dvd burning problems, can someone help me or direct me to help(guide,wiki,forum)
[02:31] <erisco> un_operateur, the umask thing did not work whatsoever
[02:31] <un_operateur> bayziders, chmod +x /path/to/file
[02:31] <Dave-Ubuntu> un_operateur: the hde and hdf *were* part of a RAID0 in windows - two 40Gb joined to make 80gb
[02:31] <bayziders> jrib : and it will work on any computer like say i gave it to my freind all he has to do is click the program icon and boom it runs?
[02:31] <erisco> un_operateur, files are still created with the wrong permissions
[02:31] <I-kido> !graveman
[02:31] <ubotu> graveman: graphical tool to burn dvd and cd, gtk based. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.12-5-1 (edgy), package size 692 kB, installed size 2432 kB
[02:31] <StraightShootin1> is anyone in here familiar with how the trash system works?
[02:31] <bayziders> ok i got it all i have to do is change permisions?
[02:31] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: It is the order of the red green and blue pixels on the screen that make up one color pixel, it has to do with antiailiasing, basically just choose the one that looks best
[02:31] <jrib> bayziders: if he has the libraries and you wrote it correctly :P
[02:31] <erUSUL> bayziders: add this line as the first one of the script '#!/usr/bin/env python' and make it executable, then move it to somewhere in your path
[02:31] <un_operateur> erisco, one sec
[02:32] <Dave-Ubuntu> un_operateur: it was purely data in NTFS - be nice if i could mount it somehow and then read the data - but no biggy
[02:32] <StraightShootin1> !trash
[02:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:32] <ardchoille42> OMG! I love the wiki. I was getting 395 FPS, installed an nvidia card, installed nvidia-glx performed one command, rebstarted X and now I'm getting about 1700 FPS and Chromium is playing nice and smooth 
[02:33] <un_operateur> Dave-Ubuntu, well, in either case -- if you want to use these drives, you'll need to repartition and reformat them again -- as for the NTFS drive /dev/hdb ..it should be readable and writable ok
[02:33] <I-kido> StraightShootin1, trash ?
[02:33] <Vluid> Tycho451: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[02:33] <Tycho451> Vluid: Thank you
[02:33] <Vluid> Tycho451: hope that helps
[02:33] <Dave-Ubuntu> un_operateur: ok - which brings me to my question - how do i get Ubuntu to "see" them ?
[02:33] <erUSUL> !ntfs | Dave-Ubuntu
[02:33] <ubotu> Dave-Ubuntu: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:34] <un_operateur> !ntfs-3g | Dave-Ubuntu
[02:34] <ubotu> Dave-Ubuntu: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[02:34] <LordUltimaDavid> ok, i have tryed k3b, the filesystem, and bonfire, with no luck for burning dvds, i can burn cds, i have been using dvd-r media i dont have any other dvds
[02:34] <Dave-Ubuntu> chers erUSUL
[02:34] <erUSUL> Dave-Ubuntu: ;)
[02:34] <Pie-rate> My sound doesn't work. It worked before. I followed the directions for debugging in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting it isn't muted, i can get it to make a little blip with sys->prefs->sound->select OSS->test. otherwise complete silence.
[02:34] <wilee85> I just added a hard drive to my ubuntu server...how do I mount it permanently? also how do I mount it read-write vice read only?
[02:34] <erisco> un_operateur, it is just as annoying as hell to need to keep chown'ing and chmod'ing everything
[02:34] <Vluid> Tycho451: standards: https://help.ubuntu.com/ and http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy and http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Main_Page
[02:34] <un_operateur> erisco, i know -- i'm just testing umask out here
[02:34] <Dave-Ubuntu> ty un_operateur
[02:34] <erisco> un_operateur, and now the new Nautilus gui for changing permissions sucks =\
[02:34] <Vluid> Tycho451: there you get most of the answers
[02:34] <Dave-Ubuntu> i may be back!
[02:35] <Dave-Ubuntu> lol
[02:35] <steel_lady> Jordan_U: I even have pixels of other colors around my black letters
[02:35] <sarcevic> good night!
[02:35] <Tycho> Vluid: Thanks again
[02:36] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: Do you have "hinting" set to full?
[02:36] <dav_id> I have a question..
[02:36] <erisco> great... now I got that bug going on... again.
[02:36] <un_operateur> erisco, errm, ok, tell me -- without the umask -- by default, what permissions are assigned to files within that directory?
[02:36] <steel_lady> Jordan_U: where is that option?
[02:37] <I-kido> !ask | dav_id
[02:37] <ubotu> dav_id: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:37] <n33o> my mouse is not working can anyone help?
[02:37] <steel_lady> Jordan_U yes I do
[02:37] <erisco> a directory, under my ownership, giving me read write and executable permissions, still tells me permission is denied when I try to open it
[02:37] <n33o> my mouse is not working can anyone help?
[02:37] <StraightShootin1> I-kido   i'm having trouble getting trash folders on other partitions to sync properly (and empty properly) with the desktop icon and the panel button... the partition is not named the normal hda3, its named MediaDrive   (I built the pc for my mother-in-law)
[02:37] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: Sorry, click "details to see more options
[02:37] <erisco> un_operateur, I have read and write permissions. That is it.
[02:37] <dav_id> I'm looking to ssh into my linux box an invoke a screensaver, so that the screensaver runs locally on the linux box
[02:37] <compsman> how do i upgrade my distro edgy to feisty?
[02:37] <steel_lady> Jordan_U yes I have full
[02:37] <dav_id> I don't need it to run on the box that I'm sshing from
[02:37] <dav_id> just the linux box
[02:38] <erisco> un_operateur, I need to keep those read and write permissions, change the user group to www-data, and give the group read and write permissions as well. Then others need to have read permissions.
[02:38] <un_operateur> erisco, what about the group and other permissions?
[02:38] <n33o> how can i configure my mouse in xorg.. its a serial mouse .. the parameter is set to Im/PS2 but i dont know if this is right .. mouse cursor is not moving on screen can anyone help>?
[02:38] <wilee85> I just added a hard drive to my ubuntu server...how do I mount it permanently? also how do I mount it read-write vice read only?
[02:38] <steel_lady> Jordan_U I think it is not font problem. For example, round corners of my windows look like mices have bitten them
[02:38] <erisco> un_operateur, when a file is created it is under my user group, but neither the user group or others have any permissions.
[02:38] <mnoir> compsman: if i were you i'd go to #ubuntu+1 where feisty is supported :)
[02:38] <n33o> how can i configure my mouse in xorg.. its a serial mouse .. the parameter is set to Im/PS2 but i dont know if this is right .. mouse cursor is not moving on screen can anyone help>?
[02:39] <un_operateur> erisco, why dont you just change the ownership of the directory as a whole and give world/other permissions, so you can write to it?
[02:39] <n33o> how can i configure my mouse in xorg.. its a serial mouse .. the parameter is set to Im/PS2 but i dont know if this is right .. mouse cursor is not moving on screen can anyone help>?
[02:39] <dav_id> anyone at all?
[02:39] <n33o> yeah
[02:39] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: Ok, that means that you probably still arent getting your full resolution
[02:39] <n33o> how can i configure my mouse in xorg.. its a serial mouse .. the parameter is set to Im/PS2 but i dont know if this is right .. mouse cursor is not moving on screen can anyone help>?
[02:39] <I-kido> StraightShootin1, MediaDrive could belong to root
[02:39] <jrib> erisco: wait why would you want www-data to have write permissions?
[02:39] <erisco> un_operateur, I have changed the directory permissions. It doesn't change what new files are created with
[02:40] <n33o> how can i configure my mouse in xorg.. its a serial mouse .. the parameter is set to Im/PS2 but i dont know if this is right .. mouse cursor is not moving on screen can anyone help>?
[02:40] <magic_ninja> what up all
[02:40] <StraightShootin1> i-kido.. good thing to check
[02:40] <n33o> hi
[02:40] <erisco> jrib, why wouldn't I?
[02:40] <I-kido> StraightShootin1  :)
[02:40] <StraightShootin1> thanx for the suggestion
[02:40] <jrib> erisco: because apache runs as www-data
[02:40] <erisco> jrib, really? I had NO idea.
[02:40] <n33o> how can i configure my mouse in xorg.. its a serial mouse .. the parameter is set to Im/PS2 but i dont know if this is right .. mouse cursor is not moving on screen can anyone help>?
[02:40] <erisco> jrib, I said this is my web directory, don't you know, ;)
[02:40] <StraightShootin1> !repeat | n330
[02:40] <un_operateur> erisco, chown -Rv www-data.www-data /path/to/dir; chmod -R 755  /path/to/dir
[02:40] <ubotu> n330: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:41] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: The only reason I can think of for you not getting full resolution is that your video memory is set too low in the BIOS ( windows simply ignores this setting which is why you have full resolution in windows )
[02:41] <jrib> erisco: yes, www-data should not be able to write to your web stuff.  If someone compromises apache then they can do much more damage
[02:41] <erisco> un_operateur, where you say "www-data.www-data", could I use "erisco:www-data" ?
[02:41] <erisco> jrib, tough then
[02:41] <steel_lady> Jordan_U, so what should I try to set in BIOS?
[02:42] <erisco> jrib, I don't think my father is going to be compromising apache, thanks.
[02:42] <un_operateur> erisco, errm, better if it were www-data.www-data -- you still have read/write permissions in it
[02:42] <jrib> erisco: "tough"?  I'm just letting you know about the security issues...
[02:42] <jrib> you're free to do whatever you want
[02:42] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: The amount of memory used for the graphics card, you want more
[02:42] <erisco> un_operateur, you sure? I don't see how that would work
[02:42] <erisco> un_operateur, I am not a member of the www-data group
[02:42] <un_operateur> jrib, there's lots of instances where www-data needs write access to directories
[02:43] <steel_lady> Jordan_U so I think i have 128M I should put that then?
[02:43] <jrib> un_operateur: www-data owns all of his web content
[02:43] <bayziders> whats the command to compile a c program? ( yes i know i have to download buildessentials)
[02:43] <erisco> jrib, I mean for myself. This is a local server, it cannot be seen by the outside world. If someone compromises Apache, I don't really care what the damage is, I have backups.
[02:44] <un_operateur> erisco, well, after the ownership change you are treated as "other" and since the permissions are 755 (rwxrw-rw-) you have the appropriate permissions
[02:44] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: when you go into the BIOS menu it should have 2 or 3 options, choose the highest
[02:44] <w3ccv> bayziders, to compile one c file - cc or gcc, or maybe 'make' if you have a makefile
[02:44] <erisco> un_operateur, I need more than read
[02:44] <un_operateur> erisco, you have write too .. rw-
[02:44] <Ben_FP> is there a way i can check what kind of power box i have in my computer without opening up the case??
[02:44] <steel_lady> Jordan_U: ok I am restarting now, see you later!
[02:44] <erisco> un_operateur, then so does everyone else
[02:44] <erisco> un_operateur, I said I needed it to still be my file.
[02:45] <erisco> un_operateur, others should only have read access, and in special cases none
[02:45] <n33o> what protocol should i use for a serial mouse?
[02:45] <un_operateur> erisco, well then you need a more complex setup -- ACLs and multiple-permission inheritance
[02:46] <erisco> un_operateur, on top of which chowning the existing files means nothing. It is new files that are created within that directory... I will just have to run it again and again. That is my peeve
[02:46] <tom_> does anyone here have a sound blaster live! pci sound card? If so, does it run well under Ubuntu?
[02:46] <mnoir> erisco: have you tried discussing this in the #apache group?  - they might have interesting input
[02:46] <Jordan_U> Ben_FP: What do you mean by power box, power supply?
[02:46] <erisco> mnoir, I don't think this is an apache issue more than it is an issue with ubuntu
[02:46] <un_operateur> erisco, i dont see why apache is having these problems -- also why don't you check out the apache module for userdir so that you can map http://hostname/~username to ~/public_html or so
[02:46] <Ben_FP> yes power supply unit
[02:47] <Jordan_U> Ben_FP: I doubt it
[02:47] <erisco> un_operateur, I AM MAPPING A DIRECTORY. That is why the files are being made under MY name
[02:47] <Ben_FP> aw crap lol
[02:47] <Ben_FP> hehe
[02:47] <erisco> un_operateur, if I create then it also doesn't give permissions for apache to actually show it, so a 403 error is brought up
[02:47] <mnoir> erisco: i do not agree - you want to do some things that are not standard and you should take advantage of advice as to whether it will affect your use of apache
[02:47] <un_operateur> erisco, easy dude, dont shout eh -- i'm helping you here :)
[02:48] <erisco> un_operateur, sorry. I just don't think I am being understood here
[02:48] <n33o> ok
[02:48] <Spaghetti_Knife> Hi, where can I get help about open-office?
[02:48] <n33o> changed protocol to auto and now keyboard isnt working
[02:48] <erisco> it seems ridiculous to me that files always have to be created with "x" set of permissions. It is completely going against me here
[02:48] <mnoir> Spaghetti_Knife: shcu as?
[02:49] <mnoir> Spaghetti_Knife: such as?
[02:49] <ZeckOwner> Hello, I'm sorry I'm so annoying and this is pretty much SPAM but how long does it take to install the base system?
[02:49] <Spaghetti_Knife> I mean, as far as IRC channels go. #openoffice is dead.
[02:49] <erisco> I am sick and tired of being slowed down because I've gotta open up terminals and chown and chmod my mapped directory
[02:49] <ZeckOwner> It's been over half an hour and is still at 6%
[02:49] <ZeckOwner> It's currently retrieving libopencdk8
[02:49] <un_operateur> erisco, well, it seems to me that a umask is already in operation -- change to the directory, set a new umask and check a new files permission -- cd ~/dir; umask 000; touch foobar; ls -l foobar
[02:50] <un_operateur> erisco, you mentioned chmodding the directory earlier -- what permissions did you give to it then?
[02:50] <w3ccv> ZeckOwner, are you doing a network install?
[02:50] <erisco> un_operateur, I set it to 775
[02:50] <erisco> un_operateur, which I believe is rw-rw-r--
[02:51] <Spaghetti_Knife> mnoir: Never mind, i found what I wanted.
[02:51] <Spaghetti_Knife> Thanks.
[02:51] <mnoir> Spaghetti_Knife: oh - I see - ok
[02:51] <un_operateur> erisco, 775 is rwxrwxrw- .. but thats ok
[02:51] <petafile> Anyone know how to get a dvd to sync up audio/video?  I tried watching it totem and gxine and both the audio's off by almost a half second
[02:51] <un_operateur> erisco, what does the test of the umask return?
[02:51] <erisco> un_operateur, dang that is right too. I am going out of my mind here. I don't want the files executable, that brings up a warning window
[02:51] <erisco> un_operateur, 0022
[02:52] <erisco> un_operateur, directories need to be executable, files not
[02:52] <un_operateur> erisco, what was 0022 in relation to?
[02:52] <erisco> un_operateur, what do you mean?
[02:52] <zenum> Hi, I just booted up Dapper on live CD, and am trying to install krb-user to test some samba/AD authentication however it complains that the required dependancies cannot be met
[02:52] <un_operateur> erisco, you said -- <erisco> un_operateur, 0022
[02:52] <zenum>  Depends: libkrb53 (= 1.4.3-5) but 1.4.3-5ubuntu0.1 is to be installed
[02:52] <erisco> un_operateur, that is the umask
[02:52] <PriceChild> what's the command to get apt to download updates but not actually install them...?
[02:52] <PriceChild> please :)
[02:53] <PriceChild> (not command... option)
[02:53] <zenum> PriceChild: apt-get -d
[02:53] <PriceChild> thanks zenum :)
[02:53] <ZeckOwner> w3ccv, i am installing from a disc
[02:53] <Tycho> VLuid: The sound problem is fixed. Thx for your help!
[02:53] <ZeckOwner> sorry for the wait
[02:53] <un_operateur> erisco, that'd set permission for new files as 7755 .. check if that is the case
[02:54] <w3ccv> ZeckOwner, that sounds quite long. I'd check the disk, and restart (or burn a new one).
[02:54] <Arron> Can someone help me please
[02:54] <erisco> un_operateur, not at all. They are created as rw-------
[02:54] <erisco> un_operateur, my group, my ownership
[02:54] <w3ccv> Arron, only if we knew what you needed help on.
[02:54] <Arron> i tried to extract the file out of an ISO i made and gnome panel crashed and now it wont start again
[02:55] <zenum> anyone know how to get krb5-user installed?
[02:55] <un_operateur> erisco, eh? thats odd -- try a simple umask of  222
[02:55] <Arron> ill post the error log
[02:55] <steel_lady> Jordan_U I didn't find the option! There is just a report page where it says that my video memory is 8 MB and that settings on that page can not be changed
[02:56] <ZeckOwner> !help
[02:56] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:56] <ZeckOwner> wrong thing
[02:56] <ZeckOwner> hold on
[02:56] <nikoe>  #ubuntu-de
[02:56] <erisco> un_operateur, exact same thing
[02:56] <ZeckOwner> !question
[02:56] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:56] <Arron> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1388/ <--- anyone know what to do?
[02:56] <ZeckOwner> there we go
[02:56] <Arron> please help quickly
[02:56] <ZeckOwner> !question Arron
[02:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about question Arron - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <ZeckOwner> Arron !question
[02:56] <un_operateur> erisco, just to make sure you know -- umask does not change existing permission eh .. so create a new file in the directory, are you doing that?
[02:56] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: Ok, do you know what resolution you get in windows?
[02:56] <ZeckOwner> Arron:
[02:56] <ZeckOwner> !question
[02:56] <erisco> un_operateur, every time
[02:56] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:56] <Arron> what?
[02:56] <ZeckOwner> ok?
[02:57] <instabin> How do I install the nvidia drivers for my geforce 2mx
[02:57] <ZeckOwner> \
[02:57] <n33o> OK.. SO NOW MY KEYBOARD ISNT WORKING.. ON UBUNTU>> CAN ANYONE PLEASE HELP ME WIHT MOUSE / KBD CONFIG?
[02:57] <steel_lady> In numbers? I don't but I can go and try to see
[02:57] <ZeckOwner> please dont type caps
[02:57] <ZeckOwner> !caps
[02:57] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:57] <Arron> when i start ubuntu up in my main user (one with all my settings) the panel crashes and a bug report comes up then when i close it, it does it again
[02:57] <ZeckOwner> ZeckOwner !caps
[02:57] <ZeckOwner> grr...
[02:57] <ZeckOwner> how do you send a message to the person?
[02:57] <un_operateur> erisco, very odd .. i dunno why it's doing that -- can i ask how you are creating the file? touch?
[02:57] <instabin> !nvidia
[02:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:57] <erisco> un_operateur, and I need to restart because that stupid nautilus bug is happening again
[02:58] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: Ok, please do to confirm weather or not it is a resolution problem
[02:58] <steel_lady> ok, be back again
[02:58] <n33o> Yeah welll.. i assume many people in here know how to config a mouse..
[02:58] <Arron> cry :'(  Help please
[02:58] <Hirvinen> ZeckOwner: !command | target
[02:58] <ZeckOwner> !question
[02:58] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:58] <w3ccv> Arron, whatwere you doing to get this error
[02:58] <erisco> un_operateur, touch, the right-click, saving from gedit, the works
[02:58] <erisco> un_operateur, be right back.
[02:59] <mnoir> un_operateur: are you remembering that touch can only give r and w perms?  no x
[02:59] <Arron> i press extract from file on an iso file id just made
[02:59] <ZeckOwner> !uboto | ZeckOwner
[02:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uboto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:59] <Arron> and it did that
[02:59] <un_operateur> mnoir, ohh yes .. yep
[02:59] <Arron> then i resarted and it carryed on
[02:59] <w3ccv> Arron, no, exactly what were you doing - commands please
[02:59] <mnoir> un_operateur: one of those stupid gotchas
[02:59] <Hirvinen> !tell Hirvinen about ubotu
[02:59] <instabin> How do I install the binary driver for a geforce 2 mx
[02:59] <Kaladar> Anyone have a cure for slow file transfers? Copying from Ubuntu to WinXP is slow, but WinXp to Ubuntu is lightning fast
[02:59] <Arron> i right clicked on an iso file and then clicked extract file here
[02:59] <un_operateur> mnoir, just dont know why it resorts to setting a permission of 500 even after a umask of 222
[02:59] <Arron> thats what i did!
[03:00] <NkZ> Greetings!
[03:00] <Arron> ive got to go
[03:00] <Arron> ill get help tommorow
[03:00] <Chainsaw> yeah your welcome ;)
[03:00] <Hirvinen> ZeckOwner: !tell <target> about <subject> makes ubot query the target instead of spamming the channel.
[03:00] <mnoir> un_operateur: i do not think that is what i get.  maybe pastebins of the session are in order :)
[03:01] <NkZ> I wanted to know, is there a program for Linux (Ubuntu) To perform disk defragmentation or is that just needed by the Windozers?
[03:01] <erisco> I am back
[03:01] <mnoir> un_operateur: i get perms of 444 with 222 umask
[03:01] <zenum> anyone know how to get krb5-user installed? I'm having dependancy issues...
[03:01] <mnoir> un_operateur: which i expected
[03:01] <un_operateur> mnoir, same here
[03:02] <mnoir> like i said - pastebin is our friend
[03:02] <ZeckOwner> Which partitioning method should I choose? Manually, Erase entire disk, or Erase entire disk and use LVM?
[03:02] <hou5ton> Is there an application for Ubuntu that is similar to SnagIT (http://www.techsmith.com/snagit.asp) for windows? It can be very useful.
[03:02] <ZeckOwner> !pastebin
[03:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:02] <un_operateur> ZeckOwner, try and refrain from spamming the room thanks :)
[03:03] <un_operateur> mnoir, yea, waiting for him to get back
[03:03] <erisco> I cannot stand the frustration of this..
[03:03] <fiendskull9> hey, why have the edgy repos been so slow lately?
[03:03] <Alarm> when doing apt-get update , i get that message: W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_edgy-security_main_binary-i386_Packages) how can this be fixed ?
[03:03] <erisco> I am going to hit the sack un_operateur
[03:03] <instabin> How do I install the binary driver for a geforce 2 mx
[03:03] <Jordan_U> ZeckOwner: Do you want to dual boot windows or just have Ubuntu?
[03:03] <erisco> this frustration is going to have me bald pretty soon. night everyone
[03:03] <LordUltimaDavid> i tryed to create a dvd iso image and brasero failed i have the log(http://pastebin.ca/314802)
[03:04] <ardchoille42> !nvidia > instabin
[03:04] <un_operateur> erisco, probably a good thing to do now -- but when you can -- try creating a new directory in home, setting a new umask and seeing if you get the expected permissions
[03:04] <mnoir> un_operateur: for example:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1390/
[03:04] <fiendskull9> instabin: youll probably need to install legacy, not regular
[03:04] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> Is there a way to install the ubuntu operating system through a usb memory stick?
[03:04] <instabin> ardchoille42: that says for 4 fx or 6
[03:04] <Kaladar> Anyone have a cure for slow file transfers? Copying from Ubuntu to WinXP is slow, but WinXp to Ubuntu is lightning fast
[03:04] <instabin> fiendskull9: how do i install the legacy drivers
[03:05] <fiendskull9> instabin: follow the guide (that ardchoille42 pointed to you)
[03:05] <fiendskull9> and just follow instructions about legacy
[03:05] <jerp> Alarm, open the sources file and look for that url listed twice
[03:05] <ardchoille42> instabin, That wiki tutorial tells you how to install both current and legacy drivers
[03:05] <instabin> thanks
[03:05] <Crawler> hi Cindrella
[03:05] <Cindrella> hi
[03:05] <ardchoille42> instabin, I just installed nvidia drivers myself about 20 minutes ago and I remember seeing the legacy stuff in there
[03:06] <instabin> !nvidia
[03:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:06] <fiendskull9> anyone else notice how slow edgy repos are going?
[03:07] <jmblack> fiendskull9: yeah, its crazy slow, the past 2-3 days
[03:07] <fiendskull9> yeah
[03:07] <fiendskull9> im getting like 18 kbps from it
[03:07] <jmblack> if I was getting 18k Id be happy...
[03:07] <jmblack> Iw as getting like 2k earlier today
[03:07] <mag_> I think that google in this " setfacl -R -m g:google:rw " is a group, so should I have to do this group in linux ? samba+ACl's
[03:07] <Cindrella> hi
[03:07] <GuerrillaWon> Is there any program to clean up your system of say maybe rogue installation files or to defrag?
[03:07] <Cindrella> is there any one can help me
[03:07] <GuerrillaWon> Os is this maintenence not needed?
[03:07] <fiendskull9> GuerrillaWon: not needed
[03:07] <Cindrella> only one minute
[03:08] <GuerrillaWon> ooooh yea nice
[03:08] <GuerrillaWon> Thanks.
[03:08] <ZeckOwner> deff. not needed
[03:08] <fiendskull9> GuerrillaWon: installation files are removed on shutdown, and theres no need to defrag
[03:08] <GuerrillaWon> Cindrella just ask your question.
[03:08] <fiendskull9> as we are using a monolithic kernel :)
[03:08] <steel_lady> Jordan_U, now I know what is the problem
[03:08] <un_operateur> mnoir, yea, thats how it works for me too -- i would have gotten him to do something like - for i in 000 222 555 777; do umask $i; touch $i; done; ls -l
[03:08] <ZeckOwner> !question
[03:08] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:08] <GuerrillaWon> ahh ok thanks that's beautiful news.
[03:08] <Cindrella> i wanna learn a singers name
[03:08] <jmblack> GuerrillaWon: no defrag (although someone should arguably write one, ppl say its unneeded for the mostpart)
[03:08] <Cindrella> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLM7BZxuvpI
[03:08] <Milosch> man, this channel is silly busy
[03:09] <Jordan_U> jmblack: There is one, just nobody uses / needs it
[03:09] <Cindrella> who is the singer of the song or the name of it
[03:09] <fiendskull9> Milosch: used to be worse, back in breezy days
[03:09] <un_operateur> jmblack, IIRC defrag tools exist for EXT* filesystems -- just not for reiserFS :(
[03:09] <ardchoille42> Cindrella, This is an Ubuntu support channel. Off-topic chat isn't wlecomed here.
[03:09] <jmblack> Jordan_U: the only one Ive seen was for ext2 and was very crusty with age
[03:09] <steel_lady> I entered windows and it looked the same but I have naked system without special driver for that card and I remember that after installing that driver last time, the resolution and display completly changed
[03:09] <steel_lady> Jordan_U are you here?
[03:09] <jmblack> could someone point me toward an ext3 defrag?
[03:10] <mnoir> un_operateur: well - i gotta say - i run a lamp system here for development purposes and i do not have any per problems and i have not monkeyed with any perms or ownerships at all except i am a member of the www-data group.  and i know when i publish, it is all gonna work
[03:10] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: Yes
[03:10] <ZeckOwner> jmblack: you dont need it
[03:10] <ZeckOwner> but
[03:10] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: What is the problem?
[03:10] <steel_lady> ok, if I need driver for windows, can I do something in linux?
[03:10] <ZeckOwner> you could just google it?
[03:10] <mnoir> un_operateur: and my clients are all developed in directories outside of /var/www and mapped in thru apache
[03:10] <ZeckOwner> www.google.com/ubuntu
[03:10] <GuerrillaWon> One more question, umm is there any good Windows emulators supported under the amd64 platform?
[03:10] <un_operateur> mnoir, all my user maps work fine -- the permissions don't go wonky .. so its the same for me too -- his was a really peculiar problem
[03:10] <Marsmensch> what i have to modify to set the cpu-frequency from a centrino notebook, by clicking on the panel?
[03:10] <mnoir> un_operateur: why make it hard :)
[03:10] <GuerrillaWon> I think I remember reading there is none :(
[03:11] <steel_lady> Jordan_U  I entered windows and it looked the same but I have naked system without special driver for that card and I remember that after installing that driver last time, the resolution and display completly changed
[03:11] <ZeckOwner> my bad
[03:11] <ZeckOwner> www.google.com/linux
[03:11] <mnoir> un_operateur: his is an unusual requirement :)
[03:11] <jerp> jmblack, linux doesn't defrag
[03:11] <wayne_> Hi there. I am having some trouble with wine. It worked for a few weeks after installing edgy, but now crashes running any windows program or even winecfg. I removed and reinstalled wine, even to the point of fully deleting the .wine directory, but even on a fresh wine install, winecfg still will crash the desktop causing me to relogon to ubuntu every time
[03:11] <un_operateur> mnoir, well, he requires the change of permission as they default to 500 .. and www-data just cant read them then
[03:12] <jmblack> jerp, I think you meant ext3 doesnt fragment
[03:12] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: You have all the drivers you need right now in linux.
[03:12] <un_operateur> jerp, err .. linux does need defrag sometimes
[03:12] <jerp> it stays jumbled up all the time :\
[03:12] <Cindrella>  who is the singer of back in breezy days  this dong
[03:12] <un_operateur> !info defrag edgy
[03:12] <ubotu> defrag: ext2, minix and xiafs filesystem defragmenter. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.73pjm1-7 (edgy), package size 66 kB, installed size 208 kB
[03:12] <jerp> it might need ........... but it doesn't
[03:12] <Marsmensch> !info speedscale
[03:12] <Cindrella> TOPUNUZUN ANASININ AMINA KOYM AM KAFALI YARRAKLAR
[03:12] <ubotu> Package speedscale does not exist in any distro I know
[03:12] <ardchoille42> Cindrella, Please take that to #ubuntu-offtopic, this channel is too busy for ot chat
[03:13] <mnoir> GuerrillaWon: there is a program to remove orphan packages - gtkorphan
[03:13] <jerp> what I previously said: "linux doesn't defrag"
[03:13] <ZeckOwner> Cindrella also posted a vid from youtube I think.
[03:13] <GuerrillaWon> Thanks mnoir I'll look into it.
[03:14] <Ber> Hy
[03:14] <ardchoille42> ZeckOwner, Cindrella isn't actually IN the channel, probably posting messages from outside.
[03:14] <ardchoille42> Or maybe I"m wrong, lol
[03:14] <un_operateur> jerp, well, that depends on how much % fragmentation has happened on your filesystem -- if it's a high ratio-- then obviously you do need to defrag (or when you can't, recreate the filesystem)
[03:14] <ardchoille42> ZeckOwner, yeah, like that, I though
[03:14] <instabin> After following the instructions for installing the binary driver I get this error :   Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[03:14] <instabin> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[03:14] <jerp> if I'm wrong, talk to jmblack  he's the one who wants to defrag
[03:15] <StraightShootin1> i-kido   would it matter to the trash if the partition belonged to root, but everyone else had write-access?
[03:15] <un_operateur> jerp, i did but you were also telling him linux doesnt need to defrag (which is a plain misconception)
[03:15] <ardchoille42> instabin, did you install the proper linux-restricted-module ?
[03:16] <Ber> Hy, a README tells me to create a file in the /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ folder, but that folder doesn't exist
[03:16] <instabin> ardchoille42 it was marked already installed
[03:16] <I-kido> StraightShootin1: i think u can't empty the root's trash as user
[03:16] <cafuego_> Ber: Send the readme back to redhat, where it came from ;-)
[03:16] <cafuego_> Ber: What is the readme for?
[03:16] <m3talc0re> how can i get ununtu to read my ntfs partition i have winxp installed on?
[03:16] <Ber> *lol*@cafuego is there a folder that is equal?
[03:16] <ardchoille42> instabin, did you install either nvidia-glx-legacy or nvidia-glx?
[03:17] <mnoir> !ntfs | m3talc0re
[03:17] <ubotu> m3talc0re: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:17] <Ber> cafuego: Load my WLAN-module at auto-boot
[03:17] <Jordan_U> !ntfs-3g | m3talc0re
[03:17] <ubotu> m3talc0re: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[03:17] <instabin> ardchoille42: I indstall nvidia-glx
[03:17] <ardchoille42> instabin, Did you open a term and type: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[03:17] <cafuego_> Ber: Which module does it use?
[03:17] <m3talc0re> thanks
[03:17] <instabin> ardchoille42: yes thats when i got the error
[03:17] <Ber> cafuego_: I had to compile my own, it's a Ralinktech RT73-driver
[03:17] <ardchoille42> instabin, what card do you have?
[03:17] <mrbond> what do i need to install to play windows media player files in firefox?
[03:18] <wayne_> any ideas on why winecfg would crash?
[03:18] <instabin> ardchoille42: Geforce 2 MX
[03:18] <instabin> Its not on the legacy list
[03:18] <cafuego_> Ber: Ok, best bet is to add an alias to /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[03:18] <Kaladar> !cifs
[03:18] <Jordan_U> mrbond: mplayer-mzplugin and w32codecs
[03:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cifs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:18] <un_operateur> |mozilla-mplayer | mrbond
[03:18] <cafuego_> Ber: Something like 'alias ra0 <name of module>'
[03:18] <un_operateur> !info mozilla-mplayer | mrbond
[03:18] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.31-1 (edgy), package size 467 kB, installed size 1616 kB
[03:18] <cafuego_> Ber: Which will make the module be loaded when the ekrnel attempts to access the device ra0.
[03:19] <ardchoille42> instabin, Do you have  nvidia-kernel-common  installed?
[03:19] <ubu> ubu join#ubuntusverige
[03:19] <jerp> un_operateur, this is the first time I've heard Linux needs defraging
[03:19] <instabin> ardchoille42: yes, but i just now reinstalled the restricted modules it had an update
[03:19] <magic_ninja> E: Type 'http://www.albertomilone.com/drivers/edgy/latest/32bit' is not known on line 27 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:19] <Ber> cafuego_: sounds good, I'll try it, is *.ko a (the right) module file? (or can't you tell by the sufix at linux?
[03:19] <instabin> ardchoille42: do i have to restart?
[03:20] <ardchoille42> instabin, I would
[03:20] <Jordan_U> jerp: if you keep ~ 10% free space it usually doesn't
[03:20] <instabin> ardchoille42 ok will be back after reboot
[03:20] <ardchoille42> instabin, Wait! I meant restart X
[03:20] <Blaze> Hello.   Wondering if someone might be able to help with an issue regarding mounting a network drive.
[03:20] <ardchoille42> crap
[03:20] <Jordan_U> lol
[03:20] <mnoir> !someone | Blaze
[03:20] <ubotu> Blaze: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:21] <un_operateur> jerp, there are first times for everything -- the fragmentation on linux isnt so bad as in windows because of how the cache mechanism works -- but fragmentation does happen nontheless (which is why the tools for the job are written)
[03:21] <cafuego_> Ber: Yup, the .ko is the driver, but you don't add the .ko bit in the aliases file.
[03:21] <mrbond> I have gstreamer and mplayer installed but I still can't play wma files off a website
[03:21] <Blaze> Okay... so much for the polite approach.....
[03:21] <Jordan_U> !w32codecs | mrbond
[03:21] <ubotu> mrbond: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:22] <Blaze> Can someone tell me how to mount a network drive giving ownership to me rather than root?
[03:22] <Jordan_U> mrbond: You need to install w32codecs
[03:22] <jerp> is there a program to check if it's fraged?
[03:22] <mrbond> jorden_u - its already installed as well
[03:22] <js_> how is it i do so i dont have to rebuild my raid array on each boot?
[03:22] <un_operateur> !info defrag | jerp
[03:22] <ubotu> defrag: ext2, minix and xiafs filesystem defragmenter. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.73pjm1-7 (edgy), package size 66 kB, installed size 208 kB
[03:22] <mrbond> Jordan_U -- I already have w32codecs installed as well as mplayer and mozilla-mplayer
[03:23] <un_operateur> jerp, there's a tool in there called frag -- i think thats what you require
[03:23] <jerp> I don't require it actually, just inquiring of it
[03:23] <Jordan_U> mrbond: remove totem-mozilla OR install totem-xine
[03:24] <jerp> I have a single os with 160 gs
[03:27] <Ber> cafuego_: Thanks, I will reboot and hope it works
[03:27] <Biku> hi all...
[03:27] <Jordan_U> summary:
[03:27] <Jordan_U>    0% file fragmentation (0 of 125947 files contain fragments)
[03:27] <Jordan_U>    0% block fragmentation (0 of 0 blocks are in fragments)
[03:27] <Jordan_U>    0% overall fragmentation (0 fragments out of 0 blocks)
[03:27] <Jordan_U>  Average inter-fragment gap length = 0
[03:28] <Jordan_U> Sry, didn't mean to paste that here
[03:28] <Biku> I just DL and Burned a copy of the install disc but it hangs at "checking drivers"
[03:28] <Biku> I verified the cd and its fine
[03:28] <Biku> any ideas?
[03:29] <userundefine> Biku, the livecd install is pretty finicky in my experience.  You might try again.  If it still happens, I'd DL and burn the alternate install CD.
[03:30] <ardchoille42> Biku, I had lots of probs with the livecd but the alternate cd worked fine for me. You might try the alternate cd
[03:31] <choizy>  anyone know how to fix this. Added the sources to etc/apt/soureces.list. Using ubuntu 6.10. Getting this error while running apt-get update: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public
[03:31] <Biku> Ok...yeah I tried several times..I dl'ed 6.06 should I go ahaed and try 6.10  I'm fairly new to Linux
[03:31] <choizy> key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263
[03:31] <choizy> trying to install newest wine.
[03:31] <StraightShootin1> I-kido  I'll check it out... but the trash folder on there is named   .Trash-shery   shery is the user name... i dunno, I'll check it next time I'm on there.
[03:31] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: Did you get your display problems fixed?
[03:31] <choizy> Someone said to ignore the key but how can i do that ?
[03:31] <ardchoille42> choizy, you need to go to the wine website and look for the key, they recenly posted it
[03:32] <Ber> Re
[03:32] <steel_lady> Jordan_U, not yet, I am downloading the driver for windows and when I install the right one there and check the settings I will return here
[03:33] <choizy> ardchoille42: Ok but where do i put the key ?
[03:33] <steel_lady> I am sure it is something about the driver
[03:33] <Jordan_U> choizy: try running this: -- gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv  58403026387EE263 && gpg --export --armor 58403026387EE263 | sudo apt-key add -
[03:33] <Jordan_U>   418  gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv  58403026387EE263 && gpg --export --armor 5840302
[03:33] <I-kido> StraightShootin1: yes u can only maintain the users trash
[03:33] <Ber> where does a module has to be to be loaded in aliases?
[03:33] <steel_lady> right now it looks like the resolution in win is much less than I remember to be and the display is also poor there
[03:33] <Biku> by alternative did you mean 6.06?  Or should I go for 6.10?
[03:34] <daen3rd> can someone help please, i dont really know how to get the video drivers working correctly
[03:34] <anacaona> hello all.
[03:34] <Jordan_U> Hi
[03:34] <Jordan_U> !hi
[03:34] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:34] <rogue780> I just added a hard drive, and I need to partiition it, and set it to mount automatically. how do I do this?
[03:34] <userundefine> Biku, no, alternate CD for 6.10.  All versions come out with a 'livecd' that boots to a full desktop GUI and an 'alternate' CD for server installs or similar.  You can install the desktop from the alt. CD too, and it works better
[03:34] <charlie5> i folks ... is there a prob with audio atm ? after an updating kubuntu two days ago, amarok and audacity no longer have audio ... although audio with kaffeine and normal desktop sounds are ok ...
[03:34] <instabin> How do I get the gigly windows now that i have the nvidia driver installed
[03:35] <userundefine> !beryl | instabin
[03:35] <ubotu> instabin: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[03:35] <Jordan_U> instabin: Do you have the beta driver installed?
[03:35] <instabin> ?
[03:35] <un_operateur> rogue780, has the drive been partitioned and formatted before?
[03:35] <anacaona> i'm having problems with ubuntu and my mp3 player (creative muvo n200). previous release of the distro recognized it with no issues, but with the current release music player pop up but i can't add anything to the player (free space 0mb, even though its only using 400 of its 512 mb). anyone have any pointers?
[03:35] <rogue780> un_operateur, it is currently ntfs
[03:35] <Biku> User thanks for your help...where do I find that?  I'm on the page now and can't seem to find it..
[03:35] <choizy> Jordan_U: thanks alot
[03:35] <un_operateur> rogue780, do you want to wipe it?
[03:36] <instabin> Jordan_U : Just installed the binary driver
[03:36] <Jordan_U> instabin: For giggly windows you need either the newest beta nvidia drivers or XGL, and XGL is a hack, so you want the beta drivers :)
[03:36] <Ber> Hy, I added an entry to the /etc/modprobe.d/aliases but it didn't work. I assume the module is in the wrong folder, what is the default-folder for modules?
[03:36] <un_operateur> rogue780, because if you dont you can just mount it normally (via the mount command or through /etc/fstab)
[03:36] <userundefine> Biku, you can go to any mirror and see the same thing, but here's one : http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu-releases/edgy/
[03:36] <rogue780> un_operateur, well, I want to make it reiserFS, but I want the stuff on it to still be on it, so I backed everything up and will just recopy
[03:36] <Jordan_U> instabin: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu
[03:37] <userundefine> download either the .torrent or the .iso for your specific architecture (64bit, i386, etc)
[03:37] <faeryNatsuki> hi!
[03:37] <Jordan_U> instabin: It is also MUCH easier if you are using Edgy instead of Dapper
[03:37] <faeryNatsuki> i'm looking for a plugin for gaim, maybe some of you know about it
[03:37] <un_operateur> !format | rogue780
[03:37] <ubotu> rogue780: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[03:37] <faeryNatsuki> I want to be able to save custom emoticons my buddyes sento to me, and send them again later
[03:38] <faeryNatsuki> i know gaim receive them, but i want to save some and use again...
[03:38] <Rappermas> hey, what gives, when I start beryl, X crashes, sound doesn't work any more,...?
[03:39] <Flannel> Rappermas: #ubuntu-xgl
[03:39] <neuratix> faeryNatsuki: try amsn
[03:39] <Rappermas> Flannel: it's not just that
[03:39] <Rappermas> general system instability
[03:39] <gengiskanhg> Hi and Thanks. I am new to Ubuntu (6.06), I have using mandrake for 2 years. My old /home partition is already mounted in Ubuntu, but BAD characters (?) appear in their file names. What should I do?
[03:39] <capiira> hmmm is there a way to browse repositorys?
[03:39] <Flannel> Rappermas: did they exist before you installed beryl?
[03:39] <faeryNatsuki> neuratix: i'm using amsn, but amsn has no IME support, and here we use japanese and chinese often...
[03:40] <mnoir> Rappermas: if you remove beryl does it still happen?
[03:40] <Flannel> capiira: packages.ubuntu.com is a nice method
[03:40] <Biku> thanks
[03:40] <Rappermas> i installed beryl a LONG time ago
[03:40] <Rappermas> this just happened today
[03:40] <capiira> thx
[03:40] <daen3rd> HELP: i need to install my video drivers properly, can someone help?
[03:40] <Flannel> Rappermas: did you update anything?
[03:40] <Rappermas> yes, one package
[03:40] <capiira> but i mean with firefox
[03:40] <Rappermas> beryl-plugins
[03:40] <capiira> repositories dirs
[03:40] <Flannel> Rappermas: sounds like that's whats causing it
[03:41] <rogue780> un_operateur, so how do I mount it in fstab?
[03:41] <Flannel> capiira: that would work with firefox.
[03:41] <Rappermas> i first noticed it when I was updating beryl-plugins and tried to start beryl at the same time
[03:41] <un_operateur> !fstab | rogue780
[03:41] <ubotu> rogue780: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[03:41] <Rappermas> which probably was stupid
[03:41] <Rappermas> yet i did it nonetheless
[03:41] <jerp> Rappermas, there is #Ubuntu-xgl or #Beryl for you issue also
[03:41] <Rappermas> and now i've got all kinds of problems
[03:41] <Rappermas> alright, i guess i'll speak to them
[03:41] <Flannel> Rappermas: brought upon by beryl, so please, ask in #ubuntu-xgl, this is not the place for it
[03:41] <Rappermas> thanks
[03:42] <adub> dont have a clue whats up on my atheros card but here is dmesg output the stupid thing just quit working   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1393/
[03:42] <capiira> i mean something like that http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/
[03:42] <steel_lady> Jordan_U I think I found something but I am not sure
[03:42] <capiira> where i can see the *.deb etc.
[03:42] <Flannel> capiira: you can do that with normal repositories too.  Just browse to them.
[03:43] <capiira> im trying but there is no files in dirs
[03:43] <speyer> get i still extract the files from one archive that is password protected ?
[03:43] <Flannel> capiira: but, through packages.ubuntu.com you can download packages too.  And it's arguably a nicer interface
[03:43] <adub> can someone help me on getting my atheros card up and running again for whatever reason my card quit working http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1393/
[03:43] <mnoir> speyer: you know the password?
[03:43] <steel_lady> I went to see my graphic card and find driver for it, there are 20 graphic drivers for that laptop and I am not sure which is mine. I downloaded one and tried to install. after I unzipped it, it didn't work but it looks like it is supposed to do something to BIOS. is it possible, Jordan_U?
[03:44] <capiira> yeah but i want to check inofficial sites without a search engine
[03:44] <speyer> mnoir well if i knew it i wouldnt ask in the channel if there is a trick to extract the files without the pass
[03:44] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: are you talking about in windows now or in Ubuntu?
[03:44] <Dasnipa`> inofficial? is that like a a more official than unofficial but still not official?
[03:44] <ardchoille42> instabin, Did you get the nvidia drivers working?
[03:45] <gpled> has anyone tried 7.04?
[03:45] <Ber>  Hy, I added an entry to the /etc/modprobe.d/aliases but it didn't work. I assume the module is in the wrong folder, what is the default-folder for modules?
[03:45] <mnoir> gpled: should ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:45] <capiira> ahh its in pool dirs
[03:45] <ardchoille42> gpled, There's 7.04 discussion in #ubuntu+1 if you're interested.
[03:45] <un_operateur> capiira, do you have those "inofficial" sites in your sources.list>?
[03:46] <steel_lady> I downloaded accelerator for windows that currently still has the poor display which was improved last time after they installed something special for my graphic card. the application looks for windows but it says like is doing something to BIOS directly
[03:46] <capiira> yeah
[03:46] <capiira> but i found out
[03:46] <capiira> the deb files are located in the pool dir
[03:46] <un_operateur> capiira, then you can use apt-cache policy packagename
[03:46] <Flannel> capiira: just like the security site you gave
[03:46] <capiira> thx
[03:47] <steel_lady> The problem is I don't know which driver from the page is for my graphic card, i will have to try 23 of them and it could make the system crazy
[03:47] <gpled> thanks for the channel tip
[03:48] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: You could try ##windows
[03:48] <esaym> where can I get some ubuntu logos at for my website?
[03:48] <Cagarro>  I have a modem-router and  I'd like to know if there is a way to program it with different vpi amd vci , for example. Tnks
[03:49] <un_operateur> esaym, google images?
[03:49] <noobcook> how do i download nessus?
[03:49] <ardchoille42> !nessus
[03:49] <ubotu> nessus: Remote network security auditor, the client. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.8-1 (edgy), package size 216 kB, installed size 572 kB
[03:49] <mnoir> esaym: have you looked here : art.ubuntu.com
[03:49] <Flannel> esaym: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official, art.ubuntu.com, etc
[03:49] <ardchoille42> noobcook, It's in the repos
[03:49] <MrOregon> what buttons do you push in Beryl to have the windows organize themselves on the deskop?
[03:50] <noobcook> ardchoille42: ty
[03:50] <esaym> i looked on google images and besides the porn i didn't get much :/
[03:50] <Cagarro> upper right corner, MrOregon
[03:50] <gengiskanhg> my old /home ext3 partition in mounted in my new Ubuntu, but some special characters appear as ?.
[03:50] <un_operateur> esaym, get google images to filter out the "dubious" material then
[03:50] <ardchoille42> noobcook, You can do /query ubotu   and then in the new window do things like !appname  or  !info appname  and get info about things.
[03:51] <esaym> safe search was on! lol
[03:51] <noobcook> ok cool
[03:51] <jerp> mroregon, there is #Ubuntu-xgl or #Beryl for your issue
[03:51] <esaym> the other links look good though
[03:51] <esaym> thanks guys
[03:51] <noobcook> ardchoille42: i hear its closed source now? i wana download the latest plugins
[03:51] <MrOregon> thank you jerp
[03:51] <un_operateur> gengiskanhg, i think you need to add locale information in the mount options in fstab
[03:52] <Marsmensch> how can i get the cpu temp of a centrino notebook?
[03:52] <prinneh> So... My mac harddisk is kinda dead. Or at least it\s failing. Anyway, I can\t boot into macosx, so I thought I\d try the ubuntu live cd, since I\ve had good experience with that in the past, to see if I could rescue a few choice files.
[03:52] <prinneh> I can find my harddisk with the partition manager
[03:52] <prinneh> But I\m not sure how to mount it
[03:54] <gengiskanhg> un_operateur: What do you mean with "locale information"? I read "man mount" but there are not options por ext3 like charset
[03:54] <prinneh> Any ideas?
[03:54] <Cagarro> Where do I look for information concerning vpi and vci ... ?
[03:54] <Jordan_U> prinneh: PPC or intel?
[03:54] <prinneh> ppc
[03:55] <chable> uhm
[03:55] <chable> hellspawn
[03:55] <gengiskanhg> other tip: UID and GID are 501 of the files from the mounted partition
[03:55] <chable> what the hell
[03:55] <Jordan_U> prinneh: mkdir /media/macdrive && sudo mount -t hfsplus /dev/hda3 /media/macdrive
[03:55] <un_operateur> gengiskanhg, try locale=en_us.UTF8 as an option for that mount point
[03:56] <prinneh> Jordan, hrhr, how do I copy?
[03:56] <prinneh> >D
[03:56] <NeoGeo64> i need some assistance
[03:56] <un_operateur> gengiskanhg, or even iocharset=utf8
[03:56] <un_operateur> !ask
[03:56] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:57] <NeoGeo64> two problems i have.
[03:57] <un_operateur> !enter
[03:57] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:57] <NeoGeo64> one, the response to keyboard is very slow.
[03:57] <Jordan_U> prinneh: Where do you want to copy them to? Just go to the folder /media/macdisk and move them
[03:57] <prinneh> Ah no, I was thinking along the lines of apple-c and then apple-v
[03:58] <NeoGeo64> When I am booted into X when I type into anything its very slow to respond to when I hit a key. so i have to type at like 5wpm
[03:58] <Jordan_U> prinneh: Ahh, ctrl instead of apple
[03:58] <NeoGeo64> anyone know why
[03:58] <un_operateur> NeoGeo64, you running gnome?
[03:58] <Chainsaw> Jordan_U> Command!
[03:58] <Chainsaw> ;)
[03:58] <NeoGeo64> un_operateur: yes
[03:58] <prinneh> Jordan, there is no macdesk in media
[03:58] <prinneh> Jordan, does that mean my drive has gone bye-bye?
[03:58] <Jordan_U> Chainsaw: I know :)
[03:58] <anacaona> i'm having problems with ubuntu and my mp3 player (creative muvo n200). previous release of the distro recognized it with no issues, but with the current release music player pop up but i can't add anything to the player (free space 0mb, even though its only using 400 of its 512 mb). anyone have any pointers?
[03:59] <Jordan_U> prinneh: No, you need to run the command I gave you first
[03:59] <Chainsaw> im always scared shitlist when at 4 am local time i hear a email notification on my work address
[03:59] <chable> anyone can tell me how do i add "Computer" icon to desktop , in gnome ?
[03:59] <Ber> @anacanoa: Sorry, Not using too much C... *scnr*
[03:59] <Chainsaw> but its always slashdot :)
[03:59] <prinneh> I\ll just write it in the terminal, instead of copying it in then >)
[03:59] <un_operateur> NeoGeo64, I think you just have to delay the key delay speed -- at a terminal -- type this - gnome-keyboard-properties
[03:59] <astronouth7303>  for some reason, the kernel is intentionally disabling ACPI on one of my boxes. How would I track down the issue?
[04:00] <StraightShootin1> chable... get gtweakui
[04:00] <gengiskanhg> un_operateur: From dmesg (after mount error) EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option "locale=en_us.UTF8" or miss ing value
[04:00] <Jordan_U> chable: Drag it from the places menu to the desktop
[04:00] <chable> cheers
[04:00] <anacaona> Ber: sorry, don't get your message?
[04:00] <chable> Jordan_U its not working that way
[04:00] <Dextorion> hi there.  uhm. How can i mount a device in a users homedir/someFolder  with the user as owner?
[04:00] <StraightShootin1> chable there may be a hyphen in there somewhere
[04:00] <Ber> anacaona: dumb joke
[04:00] <un_operateur> gengiskanhg, ok, try the charset option then
[04:00] <un_operateur> gengiskanhg, iocharset=utf8
[04:00] <Dextorion> Some kind of uid= setting in fstab?  I just cant get it right.
[04:00] <chable> uhm
[04:01] <Jordan_U> chable: Strange, works for me?
[04:01] <chable> u mean drag not right click
[04:01] <NeoGeo64> un_operateur: Thats another problem, I can't boot into X now.  The installation set me to 1024x768x24 but I want to run at 1280x1024x24 so I tried adding that to the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file but when I rebooted X wont start, so I tried deleting what I added and saved again and rebooted and still wont start.
[04:01] <chable> yes sorry
[04:01] <gengiskanhg> UN_OPERATEUR:  EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option "iocharset=utf8" or missing value
[04:01] <Chainsaw> NeoGeo64> with the old config?
[04:01] <speyer> why trying to download a second file with bittornado or any other doesnt work in ubuntu ? i get a error saying " couldnt listed 98 address already in use " any ideea ?
[04:01] <un_operateur> Dextorion, you are on the right track with the UID -- check the mount man page
[04:01] <Chainsaw> NeoGeo64. 'tried deleting what i added'
[04:01] <Jordan_U> NeoGeo64: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver xorg -phigh
[04:02] <Chainsaw> Jordan_U> thnx :)
[04:02] <gengiskanhg> I read "man mount" and realize that iocharset option is not for ext3 or ext2 partitions, What to do?
[04:02] <Chainsaw> was looking it up
[04:02] <Jordan_U> NeoGeo64: Then install the correct driver for your GFX card and you should get full rez
[04:02] <Dextorion> un_operateur: :) arlrihgty. I'll try
[04:02] <Scabdates> hi i need some help with my ubuntu wireless connection
[04:02] <chable> now where do i find trash to drag him
[04:03] <un_operateur> gengiskanhg, errm, it seems valid according to the man page
[04:03] <NeoGeo64> brb going to boot into linux and try those commands
[04:03] <Jordan_U> chable: Bottom left of the screen I think ( I deleted it )
[04:03] <gengiskanhg> un_op: in practice it is not valid...
[04:03] <Scabdates> Can anyone help me?
[04:03] <chable> its there but i dont know if i can drag it
[04:04] <Scabdates> ??
[04:04] <astronouth7303> on what days is the acpi/hardware guy in?
[04:04] <chable> nope not working
[04:04] <Mordantly_Bright> Scabdates: whats the problem
[04:05] <speyer> can anyone please help me ? getting rid of the bittorrent error " couldnt listen 98 address alread in use " i get it when i start second file to download
[04:05] <un_operateur> gengiskanhg, try the utf8 option as per the manpage -- if this fails, i'm out of ideas
[04:05] <Igor_V2> anybody knows a plugin for wmv to totem-xine media player ???
[04:05] <Mordantly_Bright> speyer: sounds like a tracker error,
[04:05] <astronouth7303> Igor_V2: use VLC
[04:05] <pb> anyone got wine to work with serial ports in here and if so how?
[04:05] <Ber>  Hy, I added an entry to the /etc/modprobe.d/aliases but it didn't work. I assume the module is in the wrong folder, what is the default-folder for modules?
[04:05] <un_operateur> gengiskanhg, what filesystem is the partition?
[04:05] <prinneh> Jordan, It appears to be working... Slowly, but working... I cannot begin to describe my gratitude towards you.
[04:05] <Mordantly_Bright> does it do it on all downloads.
[04:06] <Igor_V2> i've got de VLC, but i can't play too...is there plugins????
[04:06] <Pie-rate> My sound still isn't working. It worked yesterday, I'm not sure what changed but i've tried all the instructions in !sound (hate that damn bot). It is configured to use ALSA, it is not muted. When I run tests in sys->prefs->sound, the OSS one causes a little blip and none of the others make any sound.
[04:06] <speyer> Mordantly_Bright i tryed so many and i get the same error
[04:06] <un_operateur> Igor_V2, what are you trying to pla?
[04:06] <un_operateur> play*
[04:06] <Igor_V2> .wmv
[04:06] <Igor_V2> video
[04:06] <GuerrillaWon> Here's a dum question, how do I clear my trash?
[04:06] <GuerrillaWon> *dumb
[04:06] <Mordantly_Bright> did you kill the proc
[04:06] <Ber> Guerilla: Rightklick
[04:06] <Jordan_U> Igor_V2: Use mplayer + w32codecs
[04:06] <Pie-rate> !wmv
[04:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:07] <un_operateur> GuerrillaWon, select trash - right click - empty ?
[04:07] <Mordantly_Bright> might be a port blocking problem.
[04:07] <Ber> Guerilla: Secont entry from top
[04:07] <Scabdates> Wireless help please?
[04:07] <GuerrillaWon> I don't see a trash?
[04:07] <Igor_V2> i'll try the mplayer...
[04:07] <Ber> Guerilla: left bottom
[04:07] <Mordantly_Bright> Scabdates: shoot what wireless nec.
[04:07] <GuerrillaWon> Nope :/
[04:07] <un_operateur> GuerrillaWon, or rm -rf ~/.Trash/*
[04:08] <Pie-rate> Can anyone help me with my sound? it stopped working, how would i figure out why?
[04:08] <GuerrillaWon> Ok I'll have to do that.
[04:08] <un_operateur> GuerrillaWon, errm, it should be in the nautilus places
[04:08] <GuerrillaWon> I seem to be missing my trash icon.
[04:08] <Jordan_U> Pie-rate: Do you use flash?
[04:08] <Scabdates> I have a Belkin 802.11g and when i tried to add network manager and/or wlanassistant through the add/remove button it wouldnt let me
[04:08] <GuerrillaWon> Not there either.
[04:08] <Pie-rate> Jordan_U: as in macromedia flash? yes.
[04:08] <GuerrillaWon> !
[04:08] <Scabdates> how can i connect to my wireless connection?
[04:08] <gengiskanhg> un_operateur: The partition is ext3, to be mounted in Ubuntu 6.06. It already was mounted but with special characters as <?> (spanish special characters)
[04:08] <Mordantly_Bright> Jordan_U: you need to install it first.
[04:09] <Jordan_U> Mordantly_Bright: ?
[04:09] <Mordantly_Bright> Jordan_U: grab it from adobe. and follow the readme.
[04:09] <chable> this is the best gnome
[04:09] <chable> on ubuntu 6.10
[04:09] <Jordan_U> Mordantly_Bright: I know how to install flash, I didn't ask
[04:09] <gengiskanhg> un_op: #ls -la as root said GUI and UID are 501.
[04:09] <Pie-rate> Jordan_U: What does flash have to do with anything?
[04:09] <GuerrillaWon> un_operateur it's nowhere to be found *shrug*
[04:09] <Mordantly_Bright> Jordan_U: what version are you using i386 or amd64
[04:09] <GuerrillaWon> I just rm'd it
[04:09] <Jordan_U> Pie-rate: flash 7 screws up sound a lot, try flash9
[04:09] <Scabdates> Anything i can do about this?
[04:10] <jerp> chable, yeah, it's pretty sweet
[04:10] <GuerrillaWon> Oh
[04:10] <GuerrillaWon> There it is
[04:10] <Pie-rate> Jordan_U: Yes, I have flash 9 beta 2
[04:10] <Jordan_U> Mordantly_Bright: I don't need help
[04:10] <un_operateur> GuerrillaWon, clown :)
[04:10] <GuerrillaWon> Right bottom.
[04:10] <GuerrillaWon> haha I know my apologies.
[04:10] <chable> jerp  ive tried a lot of new distros
[04:10] <Ber> *argh* sry, allways mix left and right
[04:10] <Mordantly_Bright> Jordan_U: then why did you ask about flash.
[04:10] <chable> but all had ugly gnomes
[04:11] <un_operateur> gengiskanhg, i'm just wondering if you have the right locales installed.. whats your default locale?
[04:11] <Jordan_U> Mordantly_Bright: I asked Pie-rate if he used flash because he is having sound problems
[04:11] <Mordantly_Bright> Scabdates: what does ifconfig say.
[04:11] <prinneh> Jordan, I don\t have permissions to view my pictures folder - nor do I have permission to copy it
[04:12] <chable> and apt-get rocks
[04:12] <Jordan_U> prinneh: run: gksudo nautilus or use the cp command with sudo
[04:12] <un_operateur> prinneh, reset them then -- sudo chown -Rv $USER.$USER /path/to/pictures/dir
[04:12] <Scabdates> i can check for you but i'd have to shutdown and boot into linux and than shutdown and boot into windows
[04:12] <Jordan_U> un_operateur: He is trying to recover files, the file system is read only
[04:12] <gengiskanhg> un_op: Maybe, I am in Mexico, but I installed as english the whole system in order to "practice" that language
[04:13] <Mordantly_Bright> Scabdates: thats ok, next time look when your in linux.
[04:13] <un_operateur> Jordan_U, ohhh, oops
[04:13] <pr0t0type> can somebody tell me how i get that cube thing in beryl ? what r the settings ??
[04:13] <Flannel> un_operateur, prinneh, umask is probably more appropriate (or whatever it is with hfs)
[04:13] <gengiskanhg> un_op: But when system ask me at installation time, I click at Mexico City.
[04:13] <Mordantly_Bright> Scabdates: also try pinging your ap, most time is a configuration error.
[04:13] <Flannel> pr0t0type: #ubuntu-xgl
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[04:13] <Flannel> !ops
[04:13] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
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[04:13] <Jordan_U> pr0t0type: Hold down ctrl+option and drag the mouse
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[04:14] <un_operateur> Flannel, errm, firstly getting the filesystem mounted as read/write would be a start, no? :)
[04:14] <chable> i think the spring is coming
[04:14] <Scabdates> Mordantly: How do i do that?
[04:14] <chable> my stomach began to hurt
[04:14] <prinneh> umask _
[04:14] <Flannel> un_operateur: is it mounted read only? or just owned by root?
[04:14] <prinneh> What is unmask?
[04:14] <bronze_0_1> Interesting, I just used Adept to add some packages and the "programming" menu choice, and everything that a choice under it, disappeared........ NOT good.  Anyone know how I can undo that?
[04:14] <jerp> pr0t0type, use crtl alt and the arrows at the same time
[04:14] <prinneh> can\t I just give it my passwd and usr or something ?
[04:14] <Hobbsee> whee...
[04:14] <Mordantly_Bright> Scabdates: just sudo ifconfig at an xterm window.
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[04:14] <un_operateur> Flannel, i'm just finding out -- Jordan_U told me his file system was mounted read-only
[04:15] <tonyyarusso> Hobbsee: beat you ;)
[04:15] <Jordan_U> !ops
[04:15] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[04:15] <tonyyarusso> Jordan_U: and you
[04:15] <rob> klined
[04:15] <Hobbsee> Jordan_U: too late
[04:15] <tonyyarusso> rob: thanks
[04:15] <userundefine> owned.
[04:15] <Mordantly_Bright> Scabdates: then if you see your connection  then use iwconfig to set up your wireless card.
[04:16] <un_operateur> prinneh, do you know why the system is mounted read-only?
[04:16] <chable> do i need antivirus for ubuntu ?
[04:16] <fivre> My swap has disappeared, how do I get it back?
[04:16] <prinneh> un_operateur, I have no idea.
[04:16] <Scabdates> alright
[04:16] <userundefine> chable, no.
[04:16] <pr0t0type> thx :)
[04:16] <chable> thank you
[04:16] <Jordan_U> un_operateur: HFS+ has no write support
[04:16] <prinneh> un_operateur, and I can\t even read the pictures folder
[04:16] <Scabdates> do i just type iwconfig in the terminal?
[04:16] <Jordan_U> un_operateur: He is just trying to save his data using a liveCD, nothing more
[04:16] <chable> anyone installed nerolinux ?
[04:16] <tonyyarusso> !virus | chable
[04:16] <ubotu> chable: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[04:16] <chable> it has no start icon
[04:16] <un_operateur> Jordan_U, ok, i'll just quietly shut up now -- i have no idea about apples and grapes :)
[04:17] <frenchfry929> Anyone familiar with the FM-Radio Tuner?  I need help!!
[04:17] <prinneh> Indeed. Save the data >)
[04:17] <Mordantly_Bright> Scabdates: you also might want to try google, and read up on how ubuntu handles your wireless nick card.
[04:17] <chable> i can start it only from terminal
[04:17] <Biame> Grep 2 vaules from one file?  grep A B /path/filename.txt  ?
[04:17] <un_operateur> Biame, use a regex -- grep "a|b" file
[04:17] <prinneh> Right Jordan, sorry to keep on bugging you with my linux stupidity
[04:17] <Jordan_U> prinneh: just run: gksudo nautilus
[04:18] <turbolover> hi guys
[04:18] <Mordantly_Bright> turbolover: howdy
[04:18] <turbolover> what is the default password for root on the livecd?
[04:18] <un_operateur> gengiskanhg, errm, you might like to install the spanish locales .. check !locales
[04:18] <Jordan_U> prinneh: the window that comes up will have rights to read and write to anywhere ( except writing to your mac partition )
[04:18] <turbolover> im trying to edit my xorg.conf as it is trying to display to my integrated graphicvs as opposed to my onboard
[04:18] <frenchfry929> Anyone familiar with the FM-Radio Tuner?  I need help!!
[04:18] <Mordantly_Bright> turbolover: has no default,
[04:18] <un_operateur> turbolover, i dont think there is one
[04:18] <astronouth7303> turbolover: same as on the install. There is none
[04:19] <prinneh> Oh, so that\s what sudo means?
[04:19] <turbolover> im trying to install
[04:19] <Biame> un_operateur: Ok, i'll skip it
[04:19] <prinneh> Clever!
[04:19] <Mordantly_Bright> turbolover: you can set one though.
[04:19] <turbolover> um, well when i just hit enter it was wrong
[04:19] <Jordan_U> prinneh: It means to run a command as root
[04:19] <Biame> un_operateur: Thanks
[04:19] <un_operateur> Biame, skip it?
[04:19] <turbolover> su root
[04:19] <Mordantly_Bright> turbolover: from a live cd,
[04:19] <turbolover> i am on the live cd
[04:19] <hakrzcode> !sudo | prinneh
[04:19] <ubotu> prinneh: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:19] <prinneh> Ubuntu really is nice. Does it run programs like illustrator and such _
[04:19] <Pie-rate> Can anyone help me with my sound issue? It worked yesterday, I really don't know what happened to it. Its definitely not muted, if I go to system->preferences->sound and click test, all the drivers are silent except for OSS, which makes a short-lived blip as opposed to the tone i'm supposed to hear.
[04:19] <Flannel> turbolover: sudo -i, not su
[04:20] <prinneh> _ meaning ?
[04:20] <prinneh> >)
[04:20] <frenchfry929> does anyone know anything about the FM-radio Tuner on Ubuntu?  I need help!!
[04:20] <Mordantly_Bright> turbolover: make sure you have room first.
[04:20] <Flannel> !repeat | frenchfry929
[04:20] <ubotu> frenchfry929: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:20] <Jordan_U> prinneh: You can use the gimp and inkscape
[04:20] <Mordantly_Bright> frenchfry929: you mean internet radio
[04:20] <Jordan_U> prinneh: inkscape > illustrator IMHO
[04:21] <prinneh> I\ll be sure to look at them when I\ve saved the data
[04:21] <Biame> un_operateur: What I see I have to install something, right? It's no in standard Ubuntu?
[04:21] <prinneh> Does it have stuff like livetrace? That\s such a cool feature of CS 2
[04:21] <turbolover> hmm
[04:21] <Mordantly_Bright> frenchfry929: in order to have fm radio you need an fm turner card.
[04:21] <hakrzcode> frenchfry929: what is your question? Is your tv/radio card configured properly?
[04:21] <un_operateur> Biame, errm, i'm lost -- i thought you were grepping values from a file?
[04:22] <turbolover> i suppose no one here knows the pci addressing scheme..?
[04:22] <hakrzcode> Mordantly_Bright, he meant old fashed radio.
[04:22] <Mordantly_Bright> frenchfry929: but you can play internet radio with your favorite mp3 program such as rythym, adn others.
[04:22] <Biame> un_operateur: Yes. But what I see i need to install extra thing to get regex to work?
[04:22] <un_operateur> turbolover, what'd you think we were -- cyborgs with IBM DB2 databases for brains? :)
[04:22] <turbolover> wait.. im getting stuff on this screen, is there some sort of setting file i can go to to find out how its outputting the console to the screen? i have no X
[04:22] <jerp> turbolover, mine is PCI:1:0:0   I think
[04:22] <turbolover> un: i was hoping
[04:22] <hakrzcode> Mordantly_Bright, please change your nick to something else. Bright you are not. sorry, no real offense meant.
[04:23] <Jordan_U> prinneh: FYI, if you have another computer and a firewire cable you can boot your mac as if it were just a firewire drive, it's called target disk mode
[04:23] <turbolover> well 0:2:0 is my onboard graphics, have 3 pci slots, and my gfx is in the middle
[04:23] <prinneh> I know. I haven\t got a cable - nor another mac
[04:23] <un_operateur> Biame, errm, you can use egrep instead if thats the case -- egrep "a|b" file
[04:23] <Mordantly_Bright> NO
[04:23] <sneakums> turbolover: Xorg has a -scanpci option that should tell you the busid of your card
[04:23] <Mordantly_Bright> you don't know the meaning of Mordantly
[04:23] <turbolover> sweet! thanks sneakums!
[04:23] <prinneh> The pictures folder does not want to copy
[04:24] <turbolover> make hot women fill your days with donuts and cherry pies
[04:24] <hakrzcode> no, I do not. hmmm
[04:24] <Mordantly_Bright> its a metaphor
[04:24] <Biame> un_operateur: Thanks man. Thing is I'm writing bash scripts for Linux / Mac that many users will use. I can't use stuff that are not included :/
[04:24] <Jordan_U> prinneh: Does it give you an error?
[04:24] <turbolover> so x0rg -scanpci?
[04:24] <sneakums> sudo Xorg -scanpci (drop sudo if you're already root)
[04:24] <prinneh> Jordan, it just does nothing
[04:25] <prinneh> I\ve tried drag and dropping and copy and paste
[04:25] <un_operateur> Biame, why not use something like perl or ruby so you have consitency with portability all around?
[04:25] <prinneh> Accessing it now, see if I can move a single picture
[04:25] <un_operateur> Biame,  perl -ne 'print if /a|b/' file
[04:25] <sneakums> os x ships with python, so that's another option
[04:25] <turbolover> hmm, my ati card is unknown, oh well, give it a shot anyways
[04:26] <sneakums> i'm not sure if the drivers and scanpci use the same pci database, so it's worth a shot
[04:26] <Jordan_U> prinneh: Only that one window you oppened with sudo can access those files
[04:26] <Biame> un_operateur: Naa bash will do for this easy thing, thanks
[04:26] <turbolover> I wish there was a package manager that would track down all dependencies and their dependencies and install them for me rather than trying to find all the right ones
[04:26] <Pie-rate> Can anyone help me with my sound issue? It worked yesterday, I really don't know what happened to it. Its definitely not muted, if I go to system->preferences->sound and click test, all the drivers are silent except for OSS, which makes a short-lived blip as opposed to the tone i'm supposed to hear.
[04:26] <un_operateur> Biame, whatever floats your boat :)
[04:26] <hakrzcode> Biame, awk, is usually a default install.
[04:26] <Biame> un_operateur: :) chears
[04:26] <prinneh> Jordan, so I need to open another sudo nautilus for the copy _
[04:27] <prinneh> ?
[04:27] <gengiskanhg> un_op: where can I read about locales and mounting ? I should go in few minutes. Thanks
[04:27] <ardchoille42> prinneh, Not a good idea to use sudo with GUI apps, use gksudo with GUI apps and sudo for command line apps
[04:27] <Jordan_U> prinneh: Yes, you can just create a new window from the one you have open now, any windows you create from it will also have root privaleges
[04:27] <un_operateur> !locales
[04:27] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[04:28] <un_operateur> gengiskanhg, ^^
[04:28] <Jordan_U> ardchoille42: He did use gksudo
[04:28] <un_operateur> !mount
[04:28] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:28] <turbolover> hmm, what would be the name of a generic ati driver?
[04:28] <prinneh> Jordan, why can\t the root nautilus see the mounted usb that the normal one can see _
[04:28] <hakrzcode> turbolover, that would be called ati. :) or radeon.
[04:29] <turbolover> or can i just type in VESA and will that work?
[04:29] <zenum> Hi, I've set up samba to be a domain member of an active directory domain, however I can't seem to see the users list when i do a getent passwd...
[04:29] <un_operateur> prinneh, because the drive is mounted by the user in his environment only
[04:29] <jerp> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_configure_sound_to_work_properly_in_GNOME
[04:29] <zenum> can someone help me out with that?
[04:29] <Jordan_U> prinneh: It can, you just have to get to it by going to file system -> media ( /media )
[04:29] <un_operateur> zenum, complex stuff, you probably want the #samba channel
[04:29] <prinneh> Jordan, Ok
[04:30] <prinneh> It\s preparing to copy !
[04:30] <zenum> un_operateur: I'll try... thanks
[04:30] <gengiskanhg> un_op: I install some locales, I can not se SP, ES or something like spanish, I might exit. I going to try about it. Thanks.
[04:31] <gengiskanhg> n_op: I installED some locales, I can not SEE SP, ES or something like spanish, I might exit. I going to try about it. Thanks
[04:31] <Undead> .
[04:31] <NeoGeo64> well im back up and running in X . i also installed the nvidia drivers but i still cannot select to run at 1280x1024.
[04:31] <Pie-rate> Can anyone help me with my sound issue? It worked yesterday, I really don't know what happened to it. Its definitely not muted, if I go to system->preferences->sound and click test, all the drivers are silent except for OSS, which makes a short-lived blip as opposed to the tone i'm supposed to hear.
[04:31] <NeoGeo64> can someone help me with this
[04:32] <Jordan_U> NeoGeo64: could you pastebin your xorg.conf?
[04:32] <NeoGeo64> pastebin?
[04:32] <NeoGeo64> saure illl paste it here
[04:32] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | NeoGeo64
[04:32] <ubotu> NeoGeo64: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:32] <Jordan_U> NeoGeo64: NOT HERE
[04:33] <turbolover2> thank you! X is working! YES ! YES YES
[04:34] <turbolover2> wow its weird, this lviecd is faster than mandriva
[04:34] <ublender> hrm, this isn't EXACTLY ubuntu related, but isn't kind of weird when every single system system stressful program segfaults after a small amopunt of time
[04:34] <prinneh> Still preparing...
[04:34] <NeoGeo64> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1395/
[04:34] <NeoGeo64> there
[04:34] <ublender> er, sry, said system teice there, lol
[04:34] <ublender> twice*
[04:34] <kyelewis> hey y'all
[04:35] <turbolover2> goodbye mandriva have fun.. in heck!
[04:35] <kyelewis> *sighs* this update from dapper to edgy was a disaster, really
[04:35] <kyelewis> :P
[04:35] <Jordan_U> prinneh: Ok, lets just do this from the terminal instead.
[04:35] <Dextorion> i have this in fstab: /dev/sda2   /home/dextorion/media   ext3   rw,uid=1000,gid=1000   0   0        but it complains that uid=1000 is unrecognized operation.
[04:35] <astronouth7303> can anyone help me with ACPI? Or is that guy not in tonight?
[04:35] <Dextorion> What am i doing wrong here?
[04:35] <prinneh> Jordan, Ok. Let me just see if I can fix my keyboard, and I\ll be right back
[04:36] <ublender> arg, does anyone have an idea of what would cause every application to crash randomly at some point....
[04:36] <NeoGeo64> DId anyone look at the file I pasted?
[04:36] <astronouth7303> I can't seem to get linux-generic to recognize ACPI on my box
[04:36] <zcat[1] > ublender: no swap?
[04:36] <jerp> kyelewis, get the alternate CD, it's the best way to go
[04:36] <turbolover2> hey is there a utility that can find all the prerequisite dependencies for a given piece of software and in turn its dependencies if you dont have them either?
[04:36] <ublender> zcat[1]  i have swap
[04:36] <speyer> how do i type ^D  in terminal ?
[04:36] <speyer> doesn anyone use rtorrent ?
[04:36] <prinneh> there we are
[04:36] <prinneh> I can finally do smilies again :)
[04:36] <kyelewis> I can't start any desktop sessions because it complains about not being able to find fixed font; the suggestion of installing xfs won't work because xfs "has no installation candidate", acpi support won't install because "initscript acpid, action "start" failed" :(
[04:37] <ardchoille42> speyer, CTRL+D
[04:37] <zcat[1] > no partitions are at >95% full?
[04:37] <ublender> none are even close
[04:37] <speyer> ardchoille42 ohh thanks
[04:37] <kyelewis> jerp: yeah, but it'd be nice to be able to fix the problems I have now ;)
[04:37] <zcat[1] > run a memory test I guess...
[04:37] <kyelewis> rather than have to download 600MB of cd and re-install over the top
[04:37] <ublender> whats even weirder, it was doin the same thing in windows, (till I removed it of course)
[04:37] <Pie-rate> I've tried everything to get my sound working, i've been working at it for hours. Can someone please help me?
[04:37] <zcat[1] > sounds like hardware trouble then...
[04:38] <ublender> and I just changed the memory for that reason
[04:38] <Flannel> kyelewis: mini ISO
[04:38] <zcat[1] > could be the mobo.
[04:38] <Flannel> kyelewis: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD, alternate CD, but without the packages
[04:38] <kyelewis> so network download? hmm
[04:38] <ublender> hrm, but if it was the mobo, would I be able to get as far as I'm getting?
[04:39] <BHSPitMonkey> hey all
[04:39] <kyelewis> would that help considering the errors i'm receiving? what would it install?
[04:39] <Flannel> kyelewis: yeah, which means, all updated packages.  no double download (cd version, new version)
[04:39] <zcat[1] > yes. I have a machine here with a similar problem. I can get through installs and stuff, but use it for a while and it's just totally flakey. No matter what OS
[04:39] <Pie-rate> This sound issue refuses to be fixed. Please HELP ME. Almost no one has even had any suggestions.
[04:39] <kyelewis> i'm just curious as to why xfs has 'no installation candidate'
[04:39] <Flannel> kyelewis: that would give all the options of a normal alternate CD.  I don't know what errors you're normally having.  It can install, it can install just grub.
[04:39] <Flannel> kyelewis: where do you get that?
[04:40] <kyelewis> sudo apt-get install xfs
[04:40] <kyelewis> ;)
[04:40] <Pie-rate> or has shown any interest in helping me
[04:40] <BHSPitMonkey> I installed vmware player from apt-get, but during the installation, it failed to get the network part set up.  the program itself installed and works fine. However, every time I apt-get something now, it will go back to that vmware network configuration step, try 4 times, fail.  How can I make it stop coming back to that?
[04:40] <ublender> thats just great.....
[04:40] <jerp> maybe you mean xfce
[04:40] <Flannel> kyelewis: do you have universe enabled?
[04:40] <kyelewis> if you mean me, no, i don't mean xfce ;)
[04:41] <zcat[1] > ublender: newish board?
[04:41] <kyelewis> yes, Flannel
[04:41] <sidny4> I'm SSH'd into my linux box using putty, is there a way I can transfer a file from this machine to my linux box through putty?
[04:41] <Flannel> kyelewis: pastebin your sources list
[04:41] <host`> BHSPitMonkey, have you tried the apt-get -fixwhatever the command it
[04:41] <Flannel> !scp | sidny4
[04:41] <ubotu> sidny4: SCP is a secure way of copying files across networks using !SSH. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - WinSCP is a client for Windows, available at http://winscp.net/
[04:41] <Dave-Ubuntu> hi - i'm trying to mount an NTFS volume - my fdisk -l is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1386/ - and i'm trying to mount hdb1 - my fstab file is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1396/ - i've installed ntfs-3g and that seems ok - but i still cabny see the drive - the last two drives in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1386/ are a RAID0 NTFS - i'll wory about that later! - any ideas or pointers - i'm a noob with zero experience - insta
[04:41] <Pie-rate> uggh, screw this channel. this is getting no where, slowly.
[04:41] <ublender> zcat[1] : new to me, old to the person I got it from, but, its still not very old.
[04:41] <kyelewis> Pie-rate: what was your issue?
[04:41] <host`> er wait...
[04:42] <speyer> does anyone use rtorrent ?
[04:42] <Pie-rate> sound
[04:42] <jerp> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_configure_sound_to_work_properly_in_GNOME
[04:42] <ublender> zcat[1] : and it worked for the person I got it from....
[04:42] <Pie-rate> it just doesn't work, it worked yesterday
[04:43] <Pie-rate> kyelewis: if i go into sys->prefs->sound and test all the drivers i get a bleep from OSS and silence from the rest.
[04:43] <kyelewis> definately thanks for the link to the net-install cd though, now that i have 5mbit download it'll be useful
[04:43] <host`> !ntfs Dave-Ubuntu
[04:43] <kyelewis> i'll have a look at the sources.list to check it's right and then get back
[04:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs Dave-Ubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:43] <host`> I got my ntfs workign smoothly
[04:43] <zcat[1] > ublender: hmmm.. might still be something else. PSU, VGA card, who knows. Never found a nice program to test all that though. It's a real pain. But if stuff is crashing off a fairly fresh install and in two different OS's I'd say it's probably hardware...
[04:43] <Flannel> kyelewis: that's the only thing that would give that error, if you ddn't have universe enabled
[04:43] <ublender> ! fuse Dace-Ubuntu
[04:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fuse Dace-Ubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:44] <Pie-rate> !ntfs|Dave-Ubuntu
[04:44] <ubotu> Dave-Ubuntu: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:44] <ZeckOwner> Is it possible to install 5.10 from the live cd?
[04:44] <Flannel> ZeckOwner: no
[04:44] <markoutthere> Hey guys, newbie here
[04:44] <Dave-Ubuntu> host`: i followed these instructions - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[04:44] <markoutthere> Whats the best editor to edit files in linux these days
[04:44] <Flannel> !best | markoutthere
[04:44] <ubotu> markoutthere: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[04:45] <ZeckOwner> Flannel, I didn't think so, just wanted to check
[04:45] <Pie-rate> well, i'm off. thanks for at least ASKING me what my issue was, kyelewis.
[04:45] <markoutthere> VI is kinda all I know but figured there should be somthing better
[04:45] <ublender> zcat[1] : arg, I hate segmentation faults, the lack of output info is so discouraging
[04:45] <Madpilot> markoutthere, what sort of files?
[04:45] <Flannel> ZeckOwner: but, why breezy anyway? in a few months it'll be out of support.
[04:45] <markoutthere> Like .conf files
[04:45] <BHSPitMonkey> host`, no, I haven't.
[04:45] <Flannel> markoutthere: if vi(m) is what you know, then that's the best one for you ;)
[04:45] <Pie-rate> guess i'll try restarting (again) and then ask any further questions in #linux
[04:45] <host`> Dave-Ubuntu, did it have a UUID for the ntfs partition?
[04:46] <Tycho> I can't get DRI to work with my Radeon 9800 Pro
[04:46] <markoutthere> I dont know it well, at the point where I can learn any
[04:46] <Dave-Ubuntu> host`:  OK - stop there - no ideas what your on about now mate
[04:46] <harry> is there a free software that i could use to convert video .ogm to mkv. ?
[04:46] <host`> BHSPitMonkey, I can't think of the exact command
[04:46] <zcat[1] > harry: probably mencoder .. not sure what mkv is?
[04:46] <ublender> harry: theres a lot of answers to that question
[04:46] <BHSPitMonkey> host`, nothing in apt-get --help.
[04:46] <Flannel> !editor | markoutthere, try some out, see what you like
[04:46] <host`> Dave-Ubuntu, did you save a copy of the fstab? the original?
[04:46] <ubotu> markoutthere, try some out, see what you like: Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[04:46] <Tycho> Xorg.0.log always tells me, that DRI initialisation failed and I end up with the mesa driver
[04:47] <emun> Hi, need some help , I am trying to make a grub boot disk, i have a downloaded the image of the floppy onto desktop , i want to know how  to use dd to copy the image to floppye
[04:47] <Tycho> the fglrx module is loaded though
[04:47] <zcat[1] > emun: dd if=foo.img of=/dev/floppy
[04:47] <markoutthere> Uboto, Thank you...
[04:47] <Dave-Ubuntu> host`: yes - saved as .bak - identical to that one - just added the last line
[04:47] <ublender> zcat[1]  mkv is basically a container that contains other formats, it can have subtitles and multiple audio tracks
[04:48] <host`> Dave-Ubuntu, so you didn't have a line for that partition at all before you added that one?
[04:48] <ZeckOwner> Flannel: Breezy because I have discs for it and my disc burner is not liable + I don't have discs.
[04:48] <Dave-Ubuntu> host`: yes - correct - i followed these instructions - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[04:48] <zcat[1] > ublender: search synaptic. I vaguely recall playing with mkv before and there's a few packages for it..
[04:48] <ZeckOwner> Flannel: Is there any way I can do a network install from live?
[04:49] <host`> Dave-Ubuntu, did you make a folder for /media/windows/ ?
[04:49] <ublender> !mkv-tools
[04:49] <ublender> !mkvtoolnix
[04:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mkv-tools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:49] <ubotu> mkvtoolnix: Set of command-line tools to work with Matroska files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.0-1 (edgy), package size 1293 kB, installed size 3464 kB
[04:49] <ZeckOwner> !livecd
[04:49] <ubotu> Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.
[04:49] <Dave-Ubuntu> host`: yes - and checked it existed - its there
[04:49] <zcat[1] > !search mkv
[04:49] <ubotu> Found: mkv
[04:49] <ZeckOwner> DAng it...dapper can install from live cd but breezy can't.
[04:49] <ZeckOwner> DANG!
[04:50] <Flannel> ZeckOwner: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromKnoppix
[04:50] <ublender_> why would you need breezy...
[04:50] <Flannel> ZeckOwner: that... might make it possible
[04:50] <steel_lady> Jordan_U are you still here?
[04:50] <ZeckOwner> Ok, but that is Knoppix not Ubuntu
[04:50] <kyncani> ZeckOwner: if yu really want to install breezy, you may be able to use debootstrap
[04:50] <emun> zcat[1] , thanks do i write the command as yiou wrote it or i have to put the name of the image in the command
[04:50] <ZeckOwner> Or is that the same thing?
[04:50] <Flannel> ZeckOwner: knoppix is just a liveCd
[04:50] <host`> Dave-Ubuntu, the only other thing I can do to possibly help you is tell you to 'umount /dev/hdb1' then 'mount /dev/hdb1'
[04:50] <ubuntu_> Can someone help me?
[04:50] <ubuntu_> Im using live version
[04:50] <zcat[1] > emun: replace 'foo.img' with the actual image file.. :)
[04:50] <Flannel> !anyone | ubuntu_
[04:50] <ubotu> ubuntu_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:50] <ZeckOwner> Flannel: ok
[04:51] <ubuntu_> ANd booted it using Live-Expert
[04:51] <Flannel> ZeckOwner: can't hurt to try, at any rate.
[04:51] <host`> sudo of course
[04:51] <ZeckOwner> kyncani: ... how?
[04:51] <ZeckOwner> Flannel: thnx
[04:51] <Tycho> Could the DRI failure be relatef to UseInternalAGPGART or that kernel-AGP-whatever?
[04:51] <ubuntu_> so
[04:51] <ubuntu_> I used a pass  to the root user
[04:51] <ubuntu_> but when i try to enter nautilus as root, and type the pass, it says its wrong pass
[04:51] <Dave-Ubuntu> host`:  i did an unmount and got errors - something about chkdsk - which is windows! - also tried an ntfsfix /dev/hdb1 and that came up with errors too
[04:51] <kyncani> !debootstrap | ZeckOwner
[04:51] <ubotu> debootstrap: Bootstrap a basic Debian system. In component main, is extra. Version 0.3.3.0ubuntu7 (edgy), package size 48 kB, installed size 248 kB
[04:52] <ZeckOwner> thnx
[04:52] <host`> dave, paste the errors
[04:52] <host`> pastebin
[04:52] <Dave-Ubuntu> host`: ok - gimme 5
[04:52] <Madpilot> ubotu, sudo | ubuntu_
[04:52] <ubotu> ubuntu_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:52] <ZeckOwner> Flannel: I was planning on upgrading after installing.
[04:52] <Tycho> Should I give it a rest because it is 5:00 a.m. already and I spent more than 7 hours getting Linux to work properly?
[04:52] <Tycho> I think so
[04:53] <ubuntu_> Whats the command i type in Terminal to log in as root?
[04:53] <ZeckOwner> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromKnoppix
[04:53] <Tycho> Good night, people.
[04:53] <Flannel> ubuntu_: sudo -i
[04:53] <emun> ZCAT[1]  , IS THIS alright grub-0.95-i386-pc.ext2fs
[04:53] <ZeckOwner> Is this for dapper?
[04:53] <Pie-rate> GODDAMN SOUND. Why can no one even help me figure out WHY it stopped working?
[04:53] <Flannel> ZeckOwner: yes
[04:53] <Dave-Ubuntu> host`:  pasted here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1398/
[04:53] <Scabdates> im having trouble with my wireless connection
[04:53] <magic_ninja> hey guys i got a problem with the nvidia graphics drive...i updated it but the nvidia graphics driver for x gives me a "(EE): device not found" when i run startx
[04:53] <ZeckOwner> Flannel: ok, im gonna search google, i forgot to do so first
[04:54] <zcat[1] > emun: no idea.. try it and see.. is it about a 1.4M file?
[04:54] <Flannel> Pie-rate: no one knows, obviously.  Or they'd answer you.
[04:54] <jerp> pie-rate, we don't know what you did
[04:54] <Scabdates> heeeeeeeelp
[04:54] <zcat[1] > Pie-rate: your speakers are probably unplugged :)
[04:54] <emun> zcat[1]  i will try it and see
[04:54] <ZeckOwner> !question
[04:54] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:54] <Jordan_U> steel_lady: Yea, I'm back
[04:54] <jerp> pie-rate, I have posted this twice before this third time:  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_configure_sound_to_work_properly_in_GNOME
[04:54] <Pie-rate> zcat[1] : if i run audio tests, OSS makes a blip
[04:54] <ubuntu_> Flannel
[04:54] <Flannel> ZeckOwner: if you can scrounge up one CD, download/burn the dapper alternate CD.  That's a safer bet than the desktop.  Burn at 4x too, for that matter.
[04:55] <kyncani> ZeckOwner: debotstrap should work for dapper, edgy, debian stable, sid, ...
[04:55] <ubuntu_> I having a problem with my pass
[04:55] <zcat[1] > Pie-rate: just a blip? sounds like an IRQ issue...
[04:55] <ubuntu_> IT says its wrong all the time, but its right!
[04:55] <Pie-rate> jerp: then you didn't correctly put my name before it.
[04:55] <jerp> load alsa
[04:55] <Scabdates> helphelphelp
[04:55] <Flannel> !ask | Scabdates
[04:55] <ubotu> Scabdates: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:55] <ZeckOwner> Flannel: are you saying i should burn the live cd or what?  Im confused
[04:56] <MrPacific> !ask
[04:56] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:56] <ZeckOwner> kyncani: please make a private chat with me as i am not registered
[04:56] <MrPacific> sorry, it was arleady done
[04:56] <ubuntu_> I know its right cause in login screen, when i use the login: root and that pass, it says i cant login through that screen, but when i type another pass, it says its wrong.
[04:56] <Flannel> ZeckOwner: burn the alternate Cd, not the desktop (live CD), for dapper.  If you have one to burn
[04:56] <ubuntu_> So, i always type the right password in Terminal and it says its a wrong one.
[04:56] <Flannel> ubuntu_: ubuntu's root account is disabled.
[04:56] <LinuxBox> is this the official ubuntu channel? or just supporters of ubuntu or both?
[04:56] <ZeckOwner> Flannel: alternate?  sorry, im confused
[04:57] <zcat[1] > !root | ubuntu_
[04:57] <ubotu> ubuntu_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:57] <jerp> pie-rate, you're correct, I assumed that ...  #How_to_configure_sound_to_work_properly_in_GNOME   ... would catch your attention
[04:57] <jerp> sorry
[04:57] <Scabdates> I can't connect to my wireless router. It works in windows already. I did iwconfig and it appears that linux is registering my conneciton, it shows a signal rate and such
[04:57] <kyncani> ZeckOwner: i think you should read debootstrap doc first and come again for any questions you may have
[04:57] <LucianSolaris> ubuntu_: if you want root, do sudo passwd then do an su
[04:57] <ZeckOwner> Flannel: allow me to look for a minute for a cd
[04:57] <Scabdates> but it doesnt let me connect to the internet
[04:57] <ZeckOwner> kyncani: there is another way i might be able to do it
[04:57] <steel_lady> can somebody write one character 'm' in bold to see something about resolution?
[04:57] <zcat[1] > LucianSolaris: no, if he wants a root shell, do "sudo -i"
[04:57] <ToHellWithGA> #ubuntu-offtopic is redirecting me to ##windows
[04:58] <Dave-Ubuntu> host`:  pasted here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1398/
[04:58] <Flannel> ZeckOwner: as of Dapper (and thereafter), instead of a "Live CD" and an "Install CD", you have a "Desktop CD", and an "alternate CD", the alternate is simply the old install CD, the Desktop cd is a live CD, and an installer that goes through the liveCD.  It requires the liveCD to boot before installing, etc.  The alternate CD is tried and tested.
[04:58] <ZeckOwner> Flannel: found a cd but im not sure if it will work
[04:58] <ubuntu_> Flannel: So, how do i enabled it?
[04:58] <host`> Dave-Ubuntu, it looks like you need to shut down windows properly
[04:58] <ubuntu_> ENable it?
[04:58] <Scabdates> heeeeelp please
[04:58] <ZeckOwner> Flannel: ok, thnx
[04:58] <LucianSolaris> ubuntu_
[04:58] <LucianSolaris> you want root access w/o sudo?
[04:58] <jerp> !restrictedformats | pie-rate
[04:58] <ubotu> pie-rate: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:58] <noobcook> hmm
[04:58] <host`> reboot into windows and shut it down using the start menu shut-down
[04:58] <noobcook> checking for libpcap... no
[04:58] <noobcook> configure: error: libpcap not found
[04:58] <noobcook>   :: ?
[04:58] <ubuntu_> IM trying to acess NAutilus with root status
[04:58] <ToHellWithGA> Flannel: help me.  when i try to /j #ubuntu-offtopic it joins ##windows.  please tell #ubuntu-offtopic that the "michael kline artists" website looks fine in windows firefox.  somebody had me run windows to check it
[04:58] <LucianSolaris> ok
[04:58] <ToHellWithGA> thanks man
[04:59] <Dave-Ubuntu> host`:  i cant now lol - i bit the bullet today and installed ubuntu wiping windows xp - installed edgy
[04:59] <ubuntu_> So when i need to sudo like this:   "sudo gedit /usr/share/applications/Nautilus-root.desktop"
[04:59] <ubuntu_> it asks a pass
[04:59] <andresmujica> to anyone interested in Installing FL_TeacherTool in ubuntu  http://www.seaq.com.co/linux/Fl_TeacherTool/
[04:59] <jerp> !alsa | pie-rate
[04:59] <ubotu> pie-rate: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[04:59] <host`> I think that's ntfs-g3 keeping you from really messing the drive up
[04:59] <ubuntu_> i type the pass, and it says its wrong
[04:59] <specialbuddy1> what's the best app for get on wireless
[04:59] <jerp> !esound | pie-rate
[04:59] <ubotu> esound: Enlightened Sound Daemon - Support binaries. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.36-3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 26 kB, installed size 100 kB
[04:59] <host`> oh
[04:59] <yanger> i have a jfs file system on /media/usbdisk, there's 2.5gb left on the drive, but whenever i try to add anything, it says device is full, any ideas why?
[04:59] <ZeckOwner> Flannel: should i download 6.06 or 6.10?
[04:59] <LucianSolaris> ubuntu_: you can try going to the console, and typing sudo , if it doesn't work, then you need to give root a password.
[04:59] <amicrawler> hye guys i got a real problem
[04:59] <Dave-Ubuntu> host`:  LOL - not good eh
[04:59] <host`> dave you totally got rid of windows?
[04:59] <Pie-rate> jerp, alsa is enabled, i've been playing dvds, ac3 encoded avi files, world of warcraft, ut2004, and countless others with flawless sound for ages
[04:59] <LucianSolaris> oh oh
[04:59] <amicrawler> my glxgears are not moving very fast
[05:00] <LucianSolaris> it's your user password
[05:00] <Flannel> ZeckOwner: 6.06.1, that's dapper. probably a better place to start from, even if upgrading to edgy.
[05:00] <zcat[1] > 0xc0ffee break
[05:00] <Pie-rate> jerp, and it just failed today
[05:00] <LucianSolaris> ubuntu_: when you do sudo the password it asks for is your user account password
[05:00] <ZeckOwner> Flannel: ok
[05:00] <Dave-Ubuntu> host`:  yeah - the 20gn drive is 6,10 - the other drives were just NTFS data
[05:00] <host`> Dave-Ubuntu, I see a couple options
[05:00] <LucianSolaris> if this is another useraccount, ubuntu_, then you need to add it to the sudoers file
[05:00] <Pie-rate> jerp: restarting, be right back.
[05:01] <Dave-Ubuntu> host`:  as long as "cry" isnt one of them - cool!
[05:01] <ubuntu_> LucianSolaris, as I am using Live CD, it just created a user automaticaly
[05:01] <ubuntu_> SO i dont know the pass
[05:01] <amicrawler> my nvida  card reports from 1000f in 5sec to 10318f
[05:01] <ToHellWithGA> Hobbsee: look what you've done!  ##windows lol
[05:01] <LucianSolaris> there should be no password
[05:01] <ZeckOwner> now let's hope DTA! can download fast enough
[05:01] <amicrawler> it is not the same all the time
[05:01] <LucianSolaris> ubuntu_: there should be no password
[05:01] <ubuntu_> Do u know if theres a default password?
[05:01] <emun> zcat[1]  got a message  --no such file or directory, does any body know how to make a grub boot floppy
[05:01] <Flannel> ubuntu_: there is no password.  What's your issue?
[05:01] <LucianSolaris> ubuntu_: no, i think there isn't a password
[05:02] <ZeckOwner> are there any ubuntu torrents?
[05:02] <ubuntu_> What should i do then? It asks for one. =)
[05:02] <amicrawler> hye guys i got a real problem
[05:02] <Flannel> ZeckOwner: yep.  let me get you one
[05:02] <amicrawler> it is not the same all the time
[05:02] <amicrawler> my nvida  card reports from 1000f in 5sec to 10318f
[05:02] <Flannel> ubuntu_: what asks for one?
[05:02] <ZeckOwner> Flannel: thnx
[05:02] <tom_> ZeckOwner: gnome handles torrents by default
[05:02] <ubuntu_> SUdo
[05:02] <Dave-Ubuntu> ZeckOwner: yes - torrent links are on the ubunto site
[05:02] <ZeckOwner> tom_: that wasnt my question
[05:02] <tom_> ZeckOwner: i'm not sure for more advnaced stuff
[05:02] <zcat[1] > emun: which doesn't exist? dd, the image, or /dev/floppy ?
[05:02] <ZeckOwner> Dave-Ubuntu: thnx
[05:02] <tom_> ZeckOwner: ok sry :)
[05:02] <Flannel> ubuntu_: just hit enter
[05:02] <Pie-rate> jerp: still not working
[05:02] <ZeckOwner> tom_: i meant the .iso ;)
[05:02] <tom_> ZeckOwner: rgr
[05:02] <amicrawler> can any body help me with this issue?
[05:03] <Flannel> ZeckOwner: 386?
[05:03] <jerp> pie-rate, is there something in the mixer applet that needs to be checked?
[05:03] <LucianSolaris> sudo <command> [enter]  PASSWORD: [enter] 
[05:03] <ZeckOwner> flannel: uhh...i think
[05:03] <lotacus> hey fellllas and fellaetes (if there are any). I seem to be having problem installing libsdl packages, mainly has to do with dependancies. For example: libsdl1.2-dev: Depends: libglu1-mesa-dev but it is not going to be installed or libglu-dev
[05:03] <host`> Dave-Ubuntu, ntfs-g3 has a force option, just type 'ntfs-g3 --help' to learn a little more, I don't know about it but it may force it to mount... also, and probably the wisest, is if you're not going to use the ntfs partition anymore then just mount the partition ro like the error message said earlier, then copy all the files to your linux partitions and the repartition the ntfs drive into something linuxesque
[05:03] <ZeckOwner> flannel: lemme look
[05:03] <ubuntu_> ILl try
[05:03] <Flannel> ZeckOwner: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso.torrent is for 386
[05:03] <jerp> pie-rate, are the connections on the back of your computer secure?
[05:03] <Pie-rate> jerp: not that i can see. everything is properly set there.
[05:03] <ZeckOwner> flannel: thnx
[05:03] <Pie-rate> jerp: yes. as i said before, it makes a small sound when i test OSS
[05:04] <emun> zcat[1] , the image ---grub-0.95-i386-pc.ext2fs
[05:04] <lotacus> it's saying the package has unresolvable dependancies
[05:04] <zcat[1] > emun: Is it in ~ or ~/Desktop ?
[05:04] <amicrawler> can any body help me with this issue?
[05:04] <__mikem> Flannel, pm
[05:04] <amicrawler> my nvida  card reports from 1000f in 5sec to 10318f
[05:04] <zcat[1] > emun: sorry.. if you downloaded it using firefox it's probably on your Desktop ...
[05:04] <Dave-Ubuntu> host`:  the ro option doesnt seem to work - so i'll take a look at the ntfs-3g options and see what comes up - this is hard work for a noob! lol cheers anyway - i'm off to take a looksee
[05:04] <host`> you get all that Dave-Ubuntu ?
[05:04] <ubuntu_> ok,
[05:04] <ubuntu_> its like
[05:04] <host`> ok
[05:04] <Biame> Bad ram...?
[05:04] <jerp> pie-rate, I have oss and alsa and esound, can you switch them around in the preferences?
[05:04] <ubuntu_> im trying to open Nautilus in root mode
[05:04] <emun> zcat[1] , i downloaded it to the desktop
[05:05] <Dave-Ubuntu> host`: cheers for taking the time in any case
[05:05] <zcat[1] > emun: so cd Desktop and then try dd again
[05:05] <ubuntu_> so i can copy a file from my actual drive
[05:05] <ZeckOwner> flannel: that site is down
[05:05] <Flannel> lotacus: you'll need to install one of those two (dependencies), then reinstlal sdl
[05:05] <ubuntu_> im using live, and have winXP installed
[05:05] <ZeckOwner> including the regular download for it
[05:05] <host`> no prob
[05:05] <Pie-rate> jerp: yes. its set to alsa and none of the others work either.
[05:05] <lotacus> Flannel, I tried doing that, but when I do, the other one shows the same error saying the previous one will not be installed. its like a dependancy loop that goes on forever.
[05:05] <emun> zcat[1]  thanks we try it again
[05:05] <ubuntu_> Im trying to acess my WInXP partition, so i need Nautilus in root mode?
[05:05] <jerp> pie-rate, I get sound on autodetect too
[05:05] <Flannel> ZeckOwner: try  http://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/releases/6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[05:06] <projkt4> hi all
[05:06] <ZeckOwner> flannel: thnx
[05:06] <ZeckOwner> flannel: it workx
[05:06] <ZeckOwner> flannel: works*
[05:06] <Khem> I am using edgy on amd64 but I need that uname -m return i686 to build an application how to do that on ubuntu
[05:06] <jerp> pie-rate, see if something is broken in Synaptic
[05:06] <Dave-Ubuntu> host`:  i get permissions denied with the ro option
[05:06] <projkt4> how would i bind the special(windows) key + the L key to activate a lock desktop function like in windows
[05:07] <Pie-rate> jerp: how?
[05:07] <jerp> I think there is a broken heading on one of the tabs
[05:07] <Dave-Ubuntu> host`:  damn it - might just bite the bullet and format
[05:07] <jerp> on the bottom left
[05:07] <ubuntu_>  Im trying to acess my WInXP partition, so i need Nautilus in root mode?
[05:07] <jerp> open synaptic manager
[05:07] <host`> Dave-Ubuntu, try changing the fstab to just allow ro
[05:07] <powercat> I really hate winamp and love foobar2000. what mp3 player software do you recommend to me?
[05:07] <Pie-rate> 0 broken
[05:07] <projkt4> @ubuntu edit your fstab
[05:07] <emun> zcat[1]  cd desktop says no such file or directory
[05:07] <Dave-Ubuntu> host`:  ok - worth a shot
[05:07] <powercat> ubuntu_, read about ntfs-3g, it solved all my ntfs problems
[05:08] <ubuntu_> okay
[05:08] <Flannel> emun: Desktop, not desktop, linux is case sensitive
[05:08] <Pie-rate> is there any way to totally reset everything to do with sound?
[05:08] <Dave-Ubuntu> brb
[05:08] <emun> zcat[1]  ok
[05:08] <lotacus> what's wierd is that my first installatio of edgy auto-mounted my ntfs drives, after a reinstall, it hasn't.
[05:08] <host`> Dave-Ubuntu, fuse is another option. if all else fails I would try it before I formatted
[05:09] <zcat[1] > emun: 'Desktop' is not the same as 'desktop' - linux is case-sensitive
[05:09] <lotacus> but I guess no one cna help me with my dependancy loop. Perhaps someone knows of a libsdl repo and a libsdl-dev repo?
[05:09] <zcat[1] > Oops, I see someone said that already :)
[05:10] <jerp> pie-rate,  I don't know what else to do but reinstall some of the multimedia aps
[05:10] <jerp> sorry
[05:10] <projkt4> how can i lock my desktop when I walk away from my computer, I'm using gnome
[05:11] <lotacus> all this trouble just to install and compile Cedega from the CVS *sigh* anyone have Cedega?
[05:11] <jerp> projkt4, there is an applet in the gnome-panell
[05:11] <projkt4> i'll look there thanks
[05:11] <Pie-rate> fuck. i have no idea what happened to it, i don't know how to fix it, and there're 906 people here that either don't know how to fix it or aren't telling.
[05:11] <jerp> right click on the deskbar and select add applet
[05:11] <ubuntu_> HEy
[05:11] <ubuntu_> Im having a problem when using modprobe
[05:11] <LinuxBox> projkt4 isnt just the 'logout' option
[05:11] <jerp> I think it's called  lock desktop
[05:11] <yanger> projkt4, it's in a wierd place - system -> quit -> lock screen
[05:12] <zcat[1] > Pie-rate: was it not broken before?
[05:12] <ubuntu_> it says operations is not permited
[05:12] <LinuxBox> ahh ok thats it
[05:12] <Pie-rate> zcat[1] : no
[05:12] <yanger> why it's in quit, not sure :P
[05:12] <projkt4> hrm
[05:12] <jerp> "lock screen"
[05:12] <LinuxBox> howto lock destop in simply mepis?
[05:12] <kazuka> Anyone running in XGL?
[05:12] <LinuxBox> desktop
[05:12] <zcat[1] > Pie-rate: seems there are 906 ppl here that don't know the answer.
[05:12] <lotacus> Pie-rate you could try removing the packages related to sound ? I dont know. i'm a noob and probably so are the other 903 users.
[05:12] <ubuntu_> Why i get the message: "Operation is not permited" when using modprobe?
[05:13] <yanger> Ubugtu, root?
[05:13] <linux_kid> Pie-rate: watch your language, this is a family safe channel
[05:13] <lotacus> ubunto_ sudo modprobe?
[05:13] <Pie-rate> the things i remember doing between it working last and now are: installing azureus, starting beryl
[05:13] <projkt4> @yanger, where can i find that command and bind it to certian keys?
[05:13] <zcat[1] > well, 903 users and a few bots. ubotu probably knows if you ask the right questions :)
[05:13] <daemoncollector> ok....I'm having an install issue, is this the right place to ask for help?
[05:13] <kazuka> !xgl
[05:13] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:13] <magic_ninja> man i can't start x with this beta driver enabled and i can't figure out how
[05:13] <lotacus> I have xgl working fine
[05:14] <lotacus> xgl and compiz
[05:14] <ubuntu_> @lotacus Nope, im using modprobe fuse
[05:14] <daemoncollector> I can't get the Live/Install CD to start...it just sits at "Loading"...any suggestions?
[05:14] <hairulfr> Aixgl/beryl here - smooth and no problems
[05:14] <compsman> how can i install c compiler
[05:14] <hairulfr> Aixgl
[05:14] <yanger> projkt4, good question, you may want to research in what the applet "lock screen" is at - may help you set a command
[05:14] <zcat[1] > !be | compsman
[05:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about be - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:14] <zcat[1] > !b-e | compsman
[05:15] <ubotu> compsman: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:15] <kyncani> daemoncollector: recent hardware ?
[05:15] <Pie-rate> linux_kid: 1. if you think kids capable of understanding anything that is said in this channel don't already know every word i could possibly say, you're fooling yourself. 2. i do my best
[05:15] <daemoncollector> Not compltly recent...its an HP dv8000 laptop
[05:15] <lotacus> ubuntu_ you have to type this: sudo modeprobe fuse
[05:15] <draco_silv> has there been any reports of people having problems with the i386 versions of the 6.10 'alternate' version of ubuntu?
[05:15] <daemoncollector> i had 5.10 installed a while ago
[05:15] <Smotang> Is there any way to see when your computer shutdown last?
[05:15] <draco_silv> cause i'm trying to get the alt-version installed...
[05:15] <daemoncollector> don't remeber the boot options i used
[05:15] <ubuntu_> @lotacus I did. Asked for a password, what do i type?
[05:15] <daemoncollector> using the AMD64 cd
[05:15] <linux_kid> Pie-rate: i AM a kid, thank you
[05:16] <draco_silv> and it tells me a file was corrupt on the disk...
[05:16] <yanger> draco_silv, i can't get it running on an old ibm laptop..
[05:16] <lotacus> ubuntu_ I tried it like modprobe fuse and I got the restriction error, then I did sudo modprobe fuse and it worked.. I don't know what fuse is or what I did. I hope it doesn't break my system.
[05:16] <daemoncollector> is there a verbose mode i can start it in to see where its dying?
[05:16] <draco_silv> basically "libssl0.9.8_0.9.8b-2ubuntu2_i386.deb was corrupt"
[05:16] <lotacus> ubuntu_ you type your password
[05:16] <Smotang> Is there any way to see when your computer shutdown last?
[05:16] <draco_silv> i'm checking the disk right now... but it's taking a while..
[05:16] <ubuntu_> @lotacus ok, i think i know whats wrong. thanks
[05:16] <kyncani> daemoncollector: use safe graphic install and edit boot options with grub (e key)
[05:17] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> On ubuntu 6.06 is there a way to change the Timer Frequency without recompiling the kernel?
[05:17] <zcat[1] > Smotang: it's all in /var/log/messages amongst other places. 'uptime' will tell you how long it's been up
[05:17] <lotacus> yea. you need superuser priviledges to do that.
[05:17] <jerp> Smotang, I think there's a command to see how long it's been running from last boot
[05:17] <daemoncollector> i was using the F6 key to add boot options
[05:17] <lotacus> anyone have Cedega?
[05:17] <emun> zcat[1]   i got a message opening /dev/floppy   permission denied
[05:17] <daemoncollector> im using the liveCD...grub isn't on there yet
[05:17] <daemoncollector> what would the option to add be though?
[05:18] <zcat[1] > emun: ahh... 'sudo dd if=...` should work better
[05:18] <kyncani> daemoncollector: well, i think you can edit the boot options with "e"
[05:18] <daemoncollector> "F6" is the boot option edit...
[05:18] <emun> zcat[1]  ok
[05:18] <daemoncollector> i just don't know what options to change
[05:19] <Spaghetti_Knife> Hi, I just read that the new linux kernel has been released.
[05:19] <Spaghetti_Knife> How do I integrate it into my Ubuntu install?
[05:19] <zcat[1] > Spaghetti_Knife: new kernels are released all the time...
[05:19] <Spaghetti_Knife> And?
[05:19] <Spaghetti_Knife> What should I do about it?
[05:20] <kyncani> daemoncollector: i don't remember but i had to edit/remove options relative to having pretty  graphics at boot time to see where an install cd hanged
[05:20] <zcat[1] > and yawn?
[05:20] <Spaghetti_Knife> Oh... it means nothing?
[05:20] <daemoncollector> anyone out there remeber what options it is?
[05:20] <Spaghetti_Knife> Until a new version of ubuntu comes out?
[05:20] <compsman> thnx ubotu
[05:20] <cafuego_> Spaghetti_Knife: if the current one works fine I'd not be overly worried about needing a new one.
[05:20] <Spaghetti_Knife> Okay.
[05:20] <compsman> !snack
[05:20] <zcat[1] > if it's anything uoi need, ubuntu's update thingy will handle it for you
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about snack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <kyncani> daemoncollector: the options were the last one given to the kernel
[05:20] <Red-Sox> What's some good ftp uploading software in the repos?
[05:21] <kitche> Spaghetti_Knife: pretty much new kernels aren't much if the kernel supports or has better support for hardware that is the only time to really update it
[05:21] <Spaghetti_Knife> how do I update the kernel?
[05:21] <kitche> Spaghetti_Knife: compile it
[05:21] <Cashel> !kernel compile
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernel compile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <Cashel> .. worth a shot :)
[05:21] <Spaghetti_Knife> Is that dangerous?
[05:22] <cafuego_> Spaghetti_Knife: Not really, unless you don't know what you're doing and remove the currnely working kernel when installing the new one.
[05:22] <Spaghetti_Knife> compiling the kernel I mean?
[05:22] <Spaghetti_Knife> I don't know what I'm doing. I'll wait until Ubuntu searches out new apps on its own.
[05:22] <cafuego_> Spaghetti_Knife: At worst you'll forget somethign and have a piece of hardware not work until you recompile.
[05:23] <lotacus> !libsdl
[05:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libsdl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:23] <Spaghetti_Knife> Yeah, don't wanna risk that.
[05:23] <lotacus> !sdl
[05:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sdl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:23] <cafuego_> Spaghetti_Knife:  Check out the `kernel-package' package. it has some docs that will see you on your way.
[05:23] <Spaghetti_Knife> If something really vital comes out regarding the kernel, will Ubuntu tell me and install it for me?
[05:23] <Cashel> Spaghetti_Knife: was there a reason you wanted a newer kernel or just like the idea of being up to date?
[05:23] <Spaghetti_Knife> I like the idea of being up to date.
[05:24] <kitche> Spaghetti_Knife: well then you be updating the kernel every other week or so
[05:24] <Spaghetti_Knife> Oh...
[05:24] <Spaghetti_Knife> I won't bother with that, then.
[05:25] <kyncani> Spaghetti_Knife: if something vital like a security update or a major bug fix happens,ubuntu will privide the update
[05:25] <lotacus> oh! LOL I just checked the properties of libsdl1.2debian-alsa and there was an option to see what packages would conflict with it!!! that is so neat! what a great little feature. heh.
[05:25] <lotacus> and the libsdl-dev packages i'm trying to install conflict with -alsa
[05:26] <lotacus> so I guess I should uninstall -alsa
[05:27] <draco_silv> okay.. i guess that that file really is corrupted... (libssl0.9.8_0.9.8b-2ubuntu2_i386.deb) on my install..
[05:27] <draco_silv> gonna check to see if the download was corrupt..
[05:27] <calvarez> how do I add a user to a group?
[05:27] <draco_silv> would suck if it was..
[05:27] <draco_silv> but if it wasn't... then what?
[05:28] <lotacus> :O if I uninstall lib1.2debian-alsa it will uninsta ubuntu-desktop? WTF ??
[05:28] <lotacus> I won't have any xwindow manager, is that what that means?
[05:28] <zcat[1] > lotacus: no...
[05:28] <Cashel> ubuntu-desktop is a virtual package... you dont need it
[05:28] <kitche> lotacus: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package it can be safely removed but must be reinstalled if you upgrade
[05:28] <daemoncollector> this thing wont even check the CD for defects
[05:29] <lotacus> oh. phew. thanks.
[05:29] <calvarez> how do I add a user to a group?
[05:29] <Cashel> calvarez: edit /etc/group
[05:29] <calvarez> thx
[05:29] <draco_silv> what do you mean?  won't check the cd for defects...
[05:29] <chable> anyone can tell me why i get this error when i want to wget a file
[05:29] <chable> Error parsing proxy URL http://:8080/: Invalid host name.
[05:29] <kyncani> daemoncollector: trying to install dapper or edgy ?
[05:29] <daemoncollector> on the boot of the Cd..theres the option to check the CD for defects
[05:29] <daemoncollector> edgy
[05:29] <draco_silv> my install griped when trying to copy a file it said was corrupt..
[05:29] <lotacus> you have proxy turned on but no proxy host set up
[05:29] <draco_silv> yeah i am doing that..
[05:29] <draco_silv> and it actually did find an error.
[05:29] <draco_silv> that much is true.
[05:29] <draco_silv> but.
[05:29] <lotacus> that's my guess
[05:30] <draco_silv> i need to figure out where the error was..
[05:30] <daemoncollector> mind wont even look for errors
[05:30] <daemoncollector> it just sits on loading
[05:30] <draco_silv> i hope that i just need to download a new copy... but i got it thru bittorrent..
[05:30] <daemoncollector> and then stops reading the CD after 10 seconds or so
[05:30] <daemoncollector> i wonder if its just my computer...
[05:30] <draco_silv> so i wonder what's the problem.../why it would be incorrect...
[05:30] <kyncani> daemoncollector: bad cd maybe ?
[05:30] <daemoncollector> im downloading a new ISO right now...
[05:30] <daemoncollector> getring the Alt i386 one
[05:30] <chable> sorted
[05:31] <Flannel> daemoncollector: burn at 4x
[05:31] <draco_silv> wait..
[05:31] <daemoncollector> k
[05:31] <draco_silv> daemoncollector...
[05:31] <Flannel> daemoncollector: and, check the md5 first
[05:31] <daemoncollector> ya draco?
[05:31] <zcat[1] > Flannel: generally 16x is slow enough...
[05:31] <lotacus> I got the ISO straight from a mirror
[05:31] <draco_silv> you are downloading the alt-i386 version?
[05:31] <lotacus> no probs
[05:31] <daemoncollector> i burnt it at 24 the first time
[05:31] <daemoncollector> yea, im getting alt-i368 right now
[05:31] <draco_silv> oh.. i'm burning it at 12x...
[05:31] <lotacus> did the torrent come with a md5sum?
[05:32] <lotacus> you may want to check that with what ubuntu gives
[05:32] <draco_silv> well i dunna think so... but i'm getting the md5 sum off the internet..
[05:32] <melecio> How can i play windows media files embedded in web pages?
[05:32] <melecio> On firefox
[05:32] <draco_silv> and checking it against the iso which is on another computer here...
[05:32] <daemoncollector> the thing that really gets me...i have a 5.10 pressed CD
[05:32] <draco_silv> do daemoncollector, what problems are you having with your version that you downloaded?
[05:32] <daemoncollector> and that freezes when loading too
[05:32] <Flannel> if it's a torrent, it's already validated
[05:33] <lotacus> melecio you may have to search for a plugin compatible with media player formats
[05:33] <daemoncollector> i hit the "Start or Isntall" option...and a green loading pops in the corner
[05:33] <daemoncollector> and then it does absoultily nothign
[05:33] <zcat[1] > melecio: there's a firefox-mplayer-plugin somewhere. I think it was in seveas
[05:33] <daemoncollector> and i can't type
[05:33] <daemoncollector> wow
[05:33] <draco_silv> hmm...
[05:33] <melecio> i installed the mplayer plug-in but.. it doesn't work =/
[05:33] <daemoncollector> and it does that same thing when i hit the "Check cd for defects" option
[05:34] <draco_silv> hmm.
[05:34] <Cashel> Anyone happen to know which part of that last update broke gnome in feisty... save me some investigation plz! hehe
[05:34] <draco_silv> not the same problem i'm having..
[05:34] <lotacus> melecio, did you install the plugin manually or through the firefox website?
[05:34] <lotacus> er with firefox
[05:34] <draco_silv> but i hope that i just got a bad download..
[05:34] <lotacus> auto installer
[05:34] <daemoncollector> whats the prob you're having?
[05:34] <daemoncollector> ya...thats what im hoping too
[05:34] <daemoncollector> 4 minutes on my download on the nhew ISO
[05:34] <zcat[1] > melecio: it generally doesn't.. every website tries to embed video some totally unique and convoluted way, for some weird reason, so generally it ends up _only_ working with MSIE and WMP....
[05:34] <draco_silv> but i wonder why it would mess up when i downloaded it through bittorrent...
[05:34] <melecio> manually, i downloaded it from somewhere and installed it
[05:34] <daemoncollector> gonna burn it at the slowest setting
[05:34] <tulga> I need root login script like that if I run rootlogin.sh, I'll be logged root. rootlogin.sh include root pass. is it possible?
[05:34] <melecio> oh...
[05:35] <draco_silv> yeah i think i might do that as well..
[05:35] <draco_silv> O.O
[05:35] <draco_silv> okay this is frelled up..
[05:35] <melecio> Well thanks!
[05:35] <draco_silv> the damn thing says that the iso is 100% okay.
[05:35] <kyncani> tulga: just do  sudo -i
[05:35] <draco_silv> -_-U
[05:35] <draco_silv> irritating..
[05:35] <draco_silv> to say the dang least.
[05:35] <daemoncollector> i feel your pain
[05:35] <tulga> kyncani: I need 1 line command
[05:36] <daemoncollector> you can't
[05:36] <lotacus> okay, i'm getting distracted here. LOL I totally forget to unstall alsa and get to my cedaga installation
[05:36] <kyncani> tulga: ?? "sudo -i" is a one line command that will give you a root shell
[05:37] <suamme1> ok, so i have a question about a problem i'm having... I get some thing that looks like a stack trace  that is in my syslog and sends messages to my terminal... now my pc card won't work.
[05:37] <ubuntu> Holaa!!
[05:37] <tulga> kyncani: sudo -i will ask password
[05:37] <tulga> I need run 1 script, then to be root
[05:38] <lotacus> suammel there is a command to reconfigure xorg, but I forget it. LOL
[05:38] <manny> hi guys
[05:38] <crazy_bus> I just installed microsoft core fonts.  And without changing anything all my fonts look different.  Does anyone know anything about this?
[05:38] <zcat[1] > tulga: in one line? "sudo foo.sh ; sudo -i"
[05:38] <manny> i have a toshiba laptop and for some reason when i plug my head phones in i dont get any sound. but when i unplug them the sound works fine through the speakers
[05:39] <suamme1> well, i lost all connection with my pcmcia slots... 'lspci' doesn't show anything in there
[05:39] <amicrawler> never mind guys i just reinstalled the mesa glx again
[05:39] <amicrawler> i'm back up to 10000 fps
[05:39] <kyncani> tulga: the root account is protected with a password, that's not too much don't you think ?
[05:39] <tulga> zcat[1] : no. I cannot insert password or anything. I can call 1 command like todo.sh, then todo.sh must do login root, then do something
[05:39] <manny> does anyone know what this is caused by?
[05:39] <lotacus> 10 000 fps with messa?
[05:40] <lotacus> wow
[05:40] <amicrawler> yes
[05:40] <tulga> kyncani: I have password. but I cannot insert in prompt
[05:40] <zcat[1] > tulga: If any script could get root at will, Linux would have as many viruses as Window does..
[05:40] <male-cious1> dear all
[05:40] <amicrawler> 17456 frams in 5 sec
[05:40] <amicrawler> is that good?
[05:40] <lotacus> glxgears doesn't output fps for me anymore
[05:41] <daemoncollector> ok...burning my new disk
[05:41] <male-cious1> combed thru.....forums and cant get or install obselete 8.28 ati driver that supports r200 cards eg 9000 mobility card..i own a t42 laptop...any suggestions..i edited
[05:41] <amicrawler> it does in the shell
[05:41] <male-cious1> xorg.conf and it carshed...
[05:41] <steel_lady> can somebody tell me which is the localhost default directory for apache?
[05:41] <suamme1> So, does 'IOCK error' or 'EIP' mean anything to anyone?
[05:41] <zcat[1] > steel_lady: /var/www I think
[05:42] <steel_lady> ok, let's see
[05:42] <kyncani> lotacus: yeah, me too, and that sucks
[05:42] <lotacus> it used to. I dont know what I did for it not to output anything.
[05:42] <male-cious1> hmm..anyone?
[05:42] <lotacus> male-cious you tried the new ATI drivers i'm guessing
[05:43] <kitche> lotacus: well glxgears isn't supposse to but just do glxgears --printfps in a terminal
[05:43] <amicrawler> type in the shell xglgears
[05:43] <lotacus> aiglx you may want to try and install
[05:43] <zcat[1] > bash: xglxgears: command not found
[05:43] <lotacus> kitche ok
[05:43] <male-cious1> lotacus...ati.amd.com...8.35 doe snot support my card
[05:43] <zcat[1] > xglgears too...
[05:43] <amicrawler> were do i get the src list for aiglx from ?
[05:43] <steel_lady> zcat[1] , it is. and how do I see phpinfo file?
[05:44] <MaTT_Ubuntu> HEy peeps need a help
[05:44] <MaTT_Ubuntu> im noob
[05:44] <male-cious1> the last driver tos upport fglrx is 8.28 but when i tried to load it in xorg.conf eg {device} driver "fglrx"
[05:44] <male-cious1> xorg goes stupid....??? why?
[05:44] <MaTT_Ubuntu> How do i install something? Ive got a file named configure
[05:44] <daemoncollector> ./configure
[05:44] <MaTT_Ubuntu> ok but
[05:44] <lotacus> hmm glxgears still provides no output. I wonder if it's because i'm running XGL
[05:44] <male-cious1> what is aiglx....? is that........open source?
[05:44] <lotacus> and compiz
[05:44] <lotacus> male-cious: yes
[05:44] <MaTT_Ubuntu> Do i need to acess it through Terminal?
[05:44] <zcat[1] > steel_lady: <?php phpinfo(); ?> in a script iirc...
[05:44] <lotacus> you can also try xgl
[05:45] <daemoncollector> yes
[05:45] <moquist> I aliened the dkms-gspcav1 RPM and then attempted to install, and it failed. Now when I attempt to remove it (with dpkg -r) I'm told that the package is "in a very bad inconsistent state", and I should reinstall it before removing...but I *can't* reinstall it, since the installation failed. Not sure where to go from here.
[05:45] <daemoncollector> run that in the term
[05:45] <male-cious1> urgh............can u provide with link?
[05:45] <MaTT_Ubuntu> how do i run it through terminal?
[05:45] <MaTT_Ubuntu> lol
[05:45] <amicrawler> lotacus: were do i get aiglx form?
[05:45] <lotacus> glx is included with ubunto
[05:45] <daemoncollector> do you know how to access a terminal window?
[05:45] <MaTT_Ubuntu> yep
[05:45] <daemoncollector> open it
[05:45] <MaTT_Ubuntu> ok
[05:45] <daemoncollector> navigate to the folder
[05:45] <MaTT_Ubuntu> opened
[05:45] <lotacus> I don't know anything about aiglx. I never tried isntalling it.
[05:45] <concept10> !exaile
[05:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about exaile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:45] <daemoncollector> and the type "./configure"
[05:45] <zcat[1] > hmm, I can't get glxgears to show fps either... I'm sure it used to.
[05:45] <daemoncollector> without the quotes
[05:45] <male-cious1> hmmm it worked.....wheni copied an updated lib.glib.1.20 and when i installed sti driver it over rode everything
[05:45] <daemoncollector> and it'll configure
[05:46] <amicrawler> oh i was trying to get the berly project
[05:46] <MaTT_Ubuntu> daemon
[05:46] <MaTT_Ubuntu> wait
[05:46] <kitche> lotacus: if you ever used xorg you used aiglx
[05:46] <MaTT_Ubuntu> is the terminal window that window with a lot of commands?
[05:46] <steel_lady> zcat[1]  I am blonde in which script? I am really new to all this
[05:46] <male-cious1> kitche...lotacus........help
[05:46] <lotacus> well I guss I can use aiglx too then but I have glx in my xorg.conf
[05:46] <daemoncollector> uhh....most likely
[05:46] <lotacus> anwyas.
[05:46] <lotacus> I dont know how to access the terminal
[05:46] <lotacus> heh
[05:47] <lotacus> ctrl alt f2 or something
[05:47] <MaTT_Ubuntu> in title is named
[05:47] <tapas> i wonder: if in /etc/network/interfaces an interface is configured as dhcp, will the dhcp process run in the background?
[05:47] <MaTT_Ubuntu> root@ubuntu
[05:47] <male-cious1> oh my gawd its like newbie heling newbie sin here how cute....
[05:47] <lotacus> male-cious help with what, i'm just as new as you are.
[05:47] <lotacus> :P
[05:47] <tapas> or will it pause if it cannot reach the dhcp server?
[05:47] <daemoncollector> yea, MaTT...thats terminal
[05:47] <kitche> lotacus: System > Terminal
[05:47] <MaTT_Ubuntu> so i cant see the folder, cause there are a lot of texts
[05:47] <daemoncollector> why the hell are you logged in as root?
[05:47] <male-cious1> hehehe
[05:47] <MaTT_Ubuntu> lol
[05:47] <lotacus> male-cious: LOL
[05:47] <MaTT_Ubuntu> dunno
[05:47] <amicrawler> kitche:  where i get the latest src list from that has all thenew est  stuff from?
[05:47] <lotacus> oh yea, I know that kitche
[05:47] <zcat[1] > steel_lady: you make a script like "info.php" in the web directory and put that in it, then when you view http://localhost/info.php from your browser it tells you heaps of info about apache and php
[05:48] <MaTT_Ubuntu> i made sudo -i
[05:48] <MaTT_Ubuntu> so
[05:48] <MaTT_Ubuntu> how do i proceed
[05:48] <MaTT_Ubuntu> from this window?
[05:48] <daemoncollector> MaTT...you need to use commands to get to the folder
[05:48] <MaTT_Ubuntu> yeah, i dont know the commands to get there
[05:48] <daemoncollector> do you know the path to the folder?
[05:48] <kitche> amicrawler: what kind of new stuff?
[05:48] <male-cious1> great is that someone that knows how to get 3d intalled wiht my card
[05:48] <MaTT_Ubuntu> yes. /home/ desktop/fuse-3.5.2
[05:48] <amicrawler> the new projects
[05:48] <daemoncollector> ok
[05:48] <amicrawler> like bareyl
[05:48] <amicrawler> and so on
[05:48] <daemoncollector> "cd ~/desktop/fuse-3.5.2"
[05:49] <daemoncollector> type that in
[05:49] <lotacus> ok anyways, male-cious you can open up synaptic and do a search for xgl
[05:49] <lotacus> it will install all dependancies as well
[05:49] <MaTT_Ubuntu> ok ill
[05:49] <MaTT_Ubuntu> wait a lil
[05:49] <male-cious1> i got all it all installed..
[05:49] <male-cious1> apt-get install *xgl
[05:49] <lotacus> and you edited xorg.conf to use xgl?
[05:49] <moquist> Solved it with dpkg -r --force-all dkms-gspcav1, but I had to create a 'dkms' script that just did 'exit 0' to make the postinst script happy.
[05:50] <MaTT_Ubuntu> wait
[05:50] <male-cious1> lotacus........im listening..
[05:50] <kitche> amicrawler: you have to getberyl from beryl's website which is beryl-project.org
[05:50] <lotacus> in the drivers section under your "device" video card area?
[05:50] <Cashel> erm
[05:50] <zcat[1] > afk
[05:50] <MaTT_Ubuntu> oh yeah
[05:50] <MaTT_Ubuntu> ubuntu/desktop
[05:50] <Cashel> xgl will install from the repos now days?
[05:50] <steel_lady> zcat[1] , it tells me that i do not have permission to write in /var/www
[05:50] <MaTT_Ubuntu> wtf
[05:50] <male-cious1> yeah change it to fglrx?
[05:50] <amicrawler> they have a  ubuntu site for it in .deb files
[05:50] <daemoncollector> the folders are case sensitive
[05:50] <lotacus> yea
[05:51] <lotacus> or glx depending on which ones you want to use
[05:51] <daemoncollector> i don't have a buntu box up in front of me...
[05:51] <lotacus> and which ones you have installed
[05:51] <daemoncollector> so it might be "Desktop"
[05:51] <MaTT_Ubuntu> hm yeah
[05:51] <steel_lady> zcat[1]  how to change root user and pass?
[05:51] <MaTT_Ubuntu> i think moving it to a dif folder
[05:51] <MaTT_Ubuntu> and renaming it
[05:51] <male-cious1> lotacus thast it.wheni reboot.....xorg crashes...
[05:51] <MaTT_Ubuntu> will make it easier
[05:51] <MaTT_Ubuntu> wait a mom
[05:51] <male-cious1> and wheni do fglrxinfo
[05:51] <jeff2> what's the feature that creates /dev/input/by-path/platform-i8042-serio-3-event- (for example) instead of /dev/input/event0?
[05:51] <zcat[1] > !root | steel_lady
[05:51] <ubotu> steel_lady: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:51] <jeff2> its new in edgy eft
[05:51] <lotacus> example: Section "Device"
[05:51] <lotacus> 	Identifier  "ATI RADEON X1650"
[05:51] <lotacus> 	Driver      "fglrx"
[05:51] <male-cious1> andy@Edgy:~$ fglrxinfo
[05:51] <male-cious1> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[05:51] <male-cious1> OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc.
[05:51] <male-cious1> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Radeon 20060327 AGP 1x TCL
[05:52] <male-cious1> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.3 Mesa 6.5.1)
[05:52] <male-cious1> mesa??? open drivers why??
[05:52] <lovloss> Im having serious development problems. Qmake projects bug, all the text in EMACS looks like squares and none of the qt libraries are recognized when i #include them :( Does anyone here know how to help me, or where to send me for help?
[05:52] <steel_lady> I know what is sudo
[05:52] <suamme1> so, i've got this error message that I pasted at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1400/   --- anyone got any suggestions for where to start looking to fix this?
[05:52] <male-cious1> super user do ? :P
[05:52] <MaTT_Ubuntu> whoo! i made it
[05:52] <MaTT_Ubuntu> what do i do now?
[05:53] <MaTT_Ubuntu> ./configure?
[05:53] <male-cious1> lotacus????
[05:53] <daemoncollector> yup
[05:53] <lotacus> male-cious open terminal and type in: gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and tell me what you have in section "Device" for your video card
[05:53] <MaTT_Ubuntu> ok now ./make?
[05:53] <lovloss> sudo kdesu konquerer ... if you're feeling lucky
[05:53] <lovloss> *konqueror
[05:54] <lovloss> or gksudo nautilus if you're in gnome
[05:54] <daemoncollector> ok....trying to install again
[05:54] <daemoncollector> YES
[05:54] <male-cious1> its ati...when i used fglrx it crashes...i get xserver error...it cant load GDM
[05:54] <Cashel> lol zcat[1] 
[05:54] <lovloss> *browses in KDE as root at least 3 times a week because he messes with stuff too much*
[05:54] <male-cious1> urghh KDE... :(
[05:54] <MaTT_Ubuntu> disis strange
[05:55] <MaTT_Ubuntu> configure got an error in the end
[05:55] <MaTT_Ubuntu> ill paste it here
[05:55] <lovloss> same with gnome when i was using that
[05:55] <kitche> !paste
[05:55] <ubotu> paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[05:55] <male-cious1> any ideas anyone?
[05:55] <lovloss> gksuo nautilus every other day ^_^
[05:55] <MaTT_Ubuntu> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[05:55] <lotacus> ah, KDE is your WM ?
[05:55] <steel_lady> how to make an empty file from a command prompt?
[05:55] <kitche> MaTT_Ubuntu: install build-essential
[05:55] <daemoncollector> yae, what kitche said
[05:55] <male-cious1> urgh.why cat i get ati to install?
[05:55] <daemoncollector> you don't have GCC installed
[05:55] <lovloss> Yeah, but #kubuntu is such a quiet chat, and i find better support here
[05:56] <MaTT_Ubuntu> does ubuntu have that?
[05:56] <MaTT_Ubuntu> how do i install that?
[05:56] <lovloss> build-essential
[05:56] <phogg> steel_lady: touch file
[05:56] <lovloss> MaTT_Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:56] <lotacus> male_cious: Install GDM though that's the "Gnome display Manager" yours may be KDM
[05:56] <lotacus> I guess aiglrx is for gnome only
[05:56] <lotacus> dunno
[05:56] <lotacus> aglrx*
[05:56] <lovloss> Thats not true, im iusing aiglx
[05:57] <MaTT_Ubuntu> COOL! My first by-console download
[05:57] <MaTT_Ubuntu> :d
[05:57] <lovloss> MaTT_Ubuntu: You'll find it gives you less trouble than the gui one :P
[05:57] <male-cious1> huh
[05:57] <MaTT_Ubuntu> =)
[05:57] <MaTT_Ubuntu> dood
[05:57] <MaTT_Ubuntu> I think
[05:57] <MaTT_Ubuntu> Ill like, getting a better HD
[05:58] <lovloss> MaTT_Ubuntu: for one thing, there are packages not listed in adept. Secondly, you can choose other packages to go with the ones you pick, like documentation, source, and so on. Its way better. But adept is a great way to browse around too
[05:58] <MaTT_Ubuntu> And making a partition only to Ubuntu =)
[05:58] <lovloss> MaTT_Ubuntu: I said id get windows on a different drive when i started, but this keeps me so busy and interested that i have yet to do so
[05:58] <MaTT_Ubuntu> lol =)
[05:58] <suamme1> so can anyone even give me the name of the type of error i'm getting?
[05:59] <lotacus> male-cious http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145068 just did a quick search. Try that guide
[05:59] <MaTT_Ubuntu> Im using the live version
[05:59] <MaTT_Ubuntu> I just felt in love with it
[05:59] <MaTT_Ubuntu> lol
[05:59] <lovloss> MaTT_Ubuntu: Ah i see. Definately partition.
[05:59] <daemoncollector> you're installed FUSE on the live version?
[05:59] <lotacus> male-cious: or you can replace "ati" with "fglrx"
[05:59] <lotacus> if you have those packages installed
[05:59] <MaTT_Ubuntu> yeah.
[05:59] <lovloss> Hey wait, can you install things in live?
[05:59] <MaTT_Ubuntu> is that bad?
[05:59] <MaTT_Ubuntu> lol
[05:59] <Cashel> im going into convulsions.. I had no idea touch would create the file .. ive been typing echo "" > file for years.... all those wasted keystrokes.... <twitch>
[05:59] <lovloss> i think it has to be on your HD
[05:59] <lotacus> oh wait you  just said you did that
[06:00] <MaTT_Ubuntu> IM
[06:00] <male-cious1> bored.........
[06:00] <MaTT_Ubuntu> using this cause i need a file in windows
[06:00] <MaTT_Ubuntu> and my windows is cracked
[06:00] <MaTT_Ubuntu> +0
[06:00] <corevette> when i have both of my hard drives (linux and windows) plugged in...how come my live cd freezes on startup?
[06:00] <tulga> I want write shell script on ubuntu. for example: login.sh root rootpass. if I load it, I'll be root user. is it possible? no password prompt.
[06:00] <lovloss> MaTT_Ubuntu: Bah, windows. Its a game center.
[06:00] <MaTT_Ubuntu> yep
[06:00] <MaTT_Ubuntu> I love games
[06:00] <lotacus> tulga you shouldn't have to write a script
[06:00] <MaTT_Ubuntu> lol
[06:00] <lotacus> you can re-enable root access
[06:00] <MaTT_Ubuntu> I think thats the only reason i still have windows
[06:01] <lovloss> lol me too. Though ive been programming so much that i havent had time
[06:01] <MaTT_Ubuntu> lol
[06:01] <tulga> lotacus: I'm writing application and application can run only 1 line script
[06:01] <lotacus> I did it once and was able to log into an xwindows session as root
[06:01] <steel_lady> phogg: so I have an empty file. how do I edit its content if I need sudo to do it?
[06:01] <lotacus> oh
[06:01] <phogg> steel_lady: use a text editor.
[06:01] <tulga> lotacus: re-enable root access is security issue
[06:01] <lovloss> MaTT_Ubuntu: Plus, linux has a lot of casual games that ive gotten addicted to. But ill need windows for certain titles im looking forward to
[06:02] <Gun_Smoke> I am having a heck of a time getting ubuntu installed on an older desktop.  I first tried installing via the liveCD.. it hangs at select time zone, so then I went with the alternate CD.. It fails after trying to install base system and leds me to select and install software.  If I select that.. It will start but then hangs at 6%.
[06:02] <MaTT_Ubuntu> YEah.
[06:02] <MaTT_Ubuntu> Soon ill get a hardcore machine
[06:02] <lovloss> Gun_Smoke: Burn the live cd at a lower speed?
[06:02] <MaTT_Ubuntu> to pwn on games
[06:02] <steel_lady> phogg I can not save it when I use text editor because it does not have the permision in that directory
[06:02] <lovloss> :3
[06:02] <MaTT_Ubuntu> i think
[06:02] <lovloss> *adventure gamer*
[06:02] <MaTT_Ubuntu> 30gb is enough for linux
[06:02] <MaTT_Ubuntu> right?
[06:02] <phogg> steel_lady: sudo $EDITOR file
[06:02] <Cashel> MaTT_Ubuntu: more then enough
[06:02] <MaTT_Ubuntu> im looking foward to buy a 400gb hd
[06:02] <phogg> steel_lady: where $EDITOR is your favorite editor
[06:03] <lovloss> MaTT_Ubuntu: im running on like, 12. and i have tons installed
[06:03] <lotacus> vi!
[06:03] <lotacus> lol
[06:03] <MaTT_Ubuntu> man
[06:03] <lotacus> I hate that thing
[06:03] <n2diy> Gun_Smoke: how old is the hardware, and how much ram does it have?
[06:03] <MaTT_Ubuntu> Linux rules
[06:03] <Cashel> MaTT_Ubuntu: I have a fully functional desktop on 6gb
[06:03] <MaTT_Ubuntu> lol
[06:03] <MaTT_Ubuntu> Il leave only 10 gb then
[06:03] <steel_lady> phogg how do I write editors name if it has 2 words text editor?
[06:03] <suamme1> the laptop i'm on now has 10gb.... and it's only a 700 mhz
[06:03] <Cashel> .... 21% is still free too heh
[06:03] <lotacus> text/ editor
[06:03] <Gun_Smoke> n2diy:  I'm not sure.. It was given to me.  Pent3 and I think only 64 for ram
[06:03] <lotacus> i think
[06:03] <lovloss> linux is baby sized. Not as much *crap* to install as microsoft's stuff
[06:03] <lotacus> or text\ editor. I forget
[06:04] <MaTT_Ubuntu> linux is da future @.@
[06:04] <lovloss> i hope so
[06:04] <phogg> steel_lady: I know of no text editor whose binary is named with a space in it. If you know of one, great. Escape the space with \
[06:04] <Gun_Smoke> n2diy: 8 gigHD
[06:04] <Cashel> its \
[06:04] <lovloss> so no one knows what i can do about these development problems im having? :/
[06:04] <MaTT_Ubuntu> I was like "i cant believe it" when i found Ubuntu
[06:04] <JonTec__> why can't I set my essid with iwconfig??? It returns no output, but the essid stays off/any. It used to work fine.
[06:04] <MaTT_Ubuntu> So much things with so little space
[06:04] <MaTT_Ubuntu> and its fast
[06:04] <n2diy> Gun_Smoke: the cpu should be ok, but 64 meg is a problem, you need at least 128 meg. An 8 gig drive is plenty to play with.
[06:05] <Cashel> lovloss: I missed you question sorry.. ??
[06:05] <lovloss> MaTT_Ubuntu: I know how you feel. And as a programmer it was definately a thrill for me. Wait till you see Beryl
[06:05] <draco_silv> so ubuntu WILL work on 128mb of ram?
[06:05] <lovloss> Cashel: Well, i have a few... for one thing, EMACS shows all its text as squares. :/
[06:05] <Gun_Smoke> n2diy:  it ran the liveCD..
[06:05] <draco_silv> at least the alternate version?
[06:05] <Cashel> ahhhh
[06:05] <MaTT_Ubuntu> hm
[06:05] <MaTT_Ubuntu> cool
[06:06] <lovloss> MaTT_Ubuntu: youtube for beryl.
[06:06] <Cashel> locales probably
[06:06] <MaTT_Ubuntu> Hey, i installed that stuff u told me.
[06:06] <steel_lady> sudo $gedit info.php
[06:06] <steel_lady> sudo: info.php: command not found
[06:06] <MaTT_Ubuntu> and tried to ./configure again
[06:06] <MaTT_Ubuntu> and got another error
[06:06] <suamme1> I ran ubuntu with 64 MB ram and slow processor
[06:06] <MaTT_Ubuntu> ill paste it here
[06:06] <daemoncollector> whats the error now Matt
[06:06] <MaTT_Ubuntu> configure: error:
[06:06] <MaTT_Ubuntu>         *** Please specify the location of the kernel source with
[06:06] <MaTT_Ubuntu>         *** the '--with-kernel=SRCDIR' option
[06:06] <MaTT_Ubuntu> configure: error: /bin/sh './configure' failed for kernel
[06:06] <lovloss> if its a large paste use pastebin
[06:06] <lovloss> ok thats fine
[06:06] <n2diy> Gun_Smoke: yep, but it isn't installing.
[06:06] <daemoncollector> your kernal souces are missing i think
[06:06] <MaTT_Ubuntu> hm
[06:06] <daemoncollector> i forget the command to grab em
[06:06] <MaTT_Ubuntu> What can i do about that?
[06:07] <lovloss> Cashel: Locales?
[06:07] <daemoncollector> anyone out there know the command?
[06:07] <lovloss> MaTT_Ubuntu: Are you sure you can install stuff when you're running off a cd?
[06:07] <MaTT_Ubuntu> yeah
[06:07] <MaTT_Ubuntu> it installs on my hd
[06:07] <MaTT_Ubuntu> =D
[06:07] <lotacus> wget install ?
[06:07] <Cashel> lovloss: locale .. env variable stuff...
[06:07] <lovloss> *didnt know*
[06:08] <MaTT_Ubuntu> i guesse
[06:08] <n2diy> daemoncollector: I just jumped in here, what command?
[06:08] <lovloss> Cashel: So whats a good solution?
[06:08] <MaTT_Ubuntu> i only need ntfs-3g to get some files
[06:08] <lotacus> like wget --install *package.deb* I know i'm close :P
[06:08] <JonTec__> why can't I set my essid with iwconfig??? It returns no output, but the essid stays off/any. It used to work fine.
[06:08] <corevette> when i have both of my hard drives (linux and windows) plugged in...how come my live cd freezes on startup?
[06:09] <MaTT_Ubuntu> @n2diy the comand for grab the kernel sources
[06:09] <MaTT_Ubuntu> lol
[06:09] <MaTT_Ubuntu> something like that
[06:09] <Cashel> lovloss: type locale and see if they look good to you.. mine say en_CA.UTF8 ... now I'm in the US but I'm not picky... hehe... locale-gen if they look right then try your program again...
[06:09] <suamme1> Jontec: you can set it in the /etc/network/interfaces file
[06:09] <JonTec__> suamme1: gracias
[06:09] <daemoncollector> yea, he had a configure issue with it not working for the kernel...so i think hes missing his source files?
[06:09] <daemoncollector> or i could be way off base
[06:10] <Theron> mozilla-mplayer plugin works in my wife's user but not in mine.  Does anyone have any suggestions?
[06:10] <n2diy> MaTT_Ubuntu: apt-get?
[06:10] <lovloss> Cashel: It worked! Thanks XD
[06:10] <daemoncollector> what pacakge though
[06:10] <Cashel> lovloss: <bows> We aim to please here at Cashel's house of pancakes and leetness
[06:11] <Cashel> anyways... later folks :)
[06:11] <MaTT_Ubuntu> found this on net
[06:11] <MaTT_Ubuntu> # apt-get install kernel-source-2.6.8
[06:11] <steel_lady> ok, now please help me just one more thing: how to change apache user from default root without pass to some user WITH pass. have in mind that I am blond!
[06:11] <MaTT_Ubuntu> is it it?
[06:11] <daemoncollector> assuming you have the 2.6.8 kernel...yea
[06:11] <lovloss> Next question: i was trying to make a QT app that says "hi" in a box... simple enoughr ight? I found a tutorial on the internet and tried it out. But all the libraries were not recognized
[06:11] <MaTT_Ubuntu> do u know how to usee what kernel i have?
[06:11] <n2diy> MaTT_Ubuntu: if that is the one you want, it should work.
[06:12] <cafuego_> daemoncollector: linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:12] <daemoncollector> uname -r
[06:12] <Laughing_Cheese> hello?
[06:12] <cafuego_> daemoncollector: no need to fetch 40Mb of source.
[06:12] <daemoncollector> don't put my name :P
[06:12] <lovloss> #include <qapplication.h>          <-- why is this not being found?
[06:12] <daemoncollector> right
[06:12] <MaTT_Ubuntu> 2.6.12 it says
[06:12] <daemoncollector> so matt
[06:12] <cafuego_> lovloss: You forgot to install the QT development files.
[06:12] <barata> hallo list, I have a weird weird problem ... that is grub just cannot boot XP on a hda1 ... my machine is Dell-710m and I have tried it twice with different version of Windoz
[06:12] <daemoncollector> apt-get linux-headers-2.6.12
[06:13] <concept10> Ubuntu friends: go get this music player: http://www.exaile.org/trac/wiki ... It beats anything on GTK, its sooo nice.
[06:13] <barata> does anybody have similar problem with Dell?
[06:13] <lovloss> cafuego_ oh. do you know the name of the files?
[06:13] <cafuego_> lovloss: try libqt4-dev or soemsuch
[06:13] <barata> Some says that it is because there is no ntfs whatever on this ubuntu
[06:13] <MaTT_Ubuntu> it says its a invalid operation
[06:14] <MaTT_Ubuntu> damn, guess this will take a while
[06:14] <MaTT_Ubuntu> lol
[06:14] <daemoncollector> someone else should prob take over helping you :P
[06:14] <lovloss> thanks again!
[06:14] <daemoncollector> im an OSX guy mostly
[06:14] <MaTT_Ubuntu> but thanks man
[06:14] <MaTT_Ubuntu> it really helped me
[06:14] <MaTT_Ubuntu> thanks for everyone
[06:14] <Laughing_Cheese> just wondering if anyone could help me dual boot XP Pro and Ubuntu?
[06:14] <MaTT_Ubuntu> =)
[06:14] <lovloss> See, MaTT_Ubuntu, this is why linux rules. Community
[06:14] <steel_lady> please, anybody knows APACHE?
[06:15] <MaTT_Ubuntu> really lol
[06:15] <MaTT_Ubuntu> yeah
[06:15] <Laughing_Cheese> I've been doing research on the forums and such for a while now
[06:15] <MaTT_Ubuntu> i mean, im noobs
[06:15] <MaTT_Ubuntu> lol
[06:15] <MaTT_Ubuntu> Lovloss ur right, this community pwns
[06:15] <MaTT_Ubuntu> linux pwns o/
[06:15] <lovloss> i have this chat room on "speed dial" ;)
[06:15] <daemoncollector> we're all newbs in some way
[06:15] <suamme1> hey all, is there a way i can check my system to see if it's malfunctioning? I am having problems.
[06:15] <lovloss> linux is itself newb. it is ever a work in progress.
[06:15] <daemoncollector> what kinda "problems"
[06:15] <lovloss> thats the beauty of it
[06:15] <MaTT_Ubuntu> =)
[06:15] <cafuego_> daemoncollector: 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[06:16] <suamme1> i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1400/
[06:16] <daemoncollector> caf, im not the one who was having the issue
[06:16] <daemoncollector> talk to Matt
[06:16] <lovloss> wow 30 mins to get all these dev files
[06:16] <suamme1> it almost constantly invades my term
[06:16] <MaTT_Ubuntu> oh
[06:16] <Laughing_Cheese> are there any BIOS/low level configurations and such that I have to do in order dual boot?
[06:16] <MaTT_Ubuntu> cafuego
[06:16] <MaTT_Ubuntu> do i need to type the version in place of the $ ?
[06:16] <cafuego_> daemoncollector: stop accusing me of not paying attention ;-)
[06:16] <daemoncollector> :)
[06:16] <cafuego_> MaTT_Ubuntu: No, exactly as I typed it
[06:16] <cafuego_> MaTT_Ubuntu: it'll repalce it with the correct version
[06:16] <Laughing_Cheese> or do I just have to to partition the drive?
[06:17] <n2diy> Laughing_Cheese: no.
[06:17] <threeonefour> general linux question    i need a seperate partition for each linux system that i want to dual boot right  eg  hda1 is my ubuntu  and hda2 is my suse      can i use the same swap partition for both hda1 and hda2 or do i have to create 2 different swap partitions
[06:17] <lovloss> MaTT_Ubuntu: Im telling you man. Keep "Beryl" in mind. :D You can turn your desktop into a giant cube with four different desktop screens, and flip it aound in 3d ^_^
[06:17] <Laughing_Cheese> so, do I just need a partition then?
[06:17] <lovloss> *likes useless things*
[06:17] <MaTT_Ubuntu> CAFUEGO OMG IT WENT ON IT
[06:17] <MaTT_Ubuntu> Lol
[06:17] <cafuego_> threeonefour: You can use the same swap partition.
[06:17] <MaTT_Ubuntu> thanks
[06:17] <daemoncollector> theres more to linux then eye-candy :P
[06:18] <dredhammer> hello i am trying to add new menu items in Edgy but Menu Layout is not making the newly created menu headings checkable to show up in the menu
[06:18] <lovloss> Beryl is also helpful
[06:18] <MaTT_Ubuntu> LOvloss, i saw a video of a guy that lives in my city using XGL
[06:18] <MaTT_Ubuntu> No in my city, my country
[06:18] <m3talc0re> i got a problem
[06:18] <lovloss> MaTT_Ubuntu: ah
[06:18] <cafuego_> XGL is pretty, but it gets annoying real quick.
[06:18] <MaTT_Ubuntu> He used XGL with touchscreen and kept rotating
[06:18] <MaTT_Ubuntu> it
[06:18] <daemoncollector> my install is almost done! woot!
[06:18] <lovloss> I wind up using it because its good for multitasking
[06:18] <Laughing_Cheese> anyone know anyplace I can get some instructions for the partitioner?
[06:18] <zcat[1] > beryl is very helpful.. it helps you wow-out windows users that thought vista's glass was going to be cool...
[06:18] <MaTT_Ubuntu> Beryl pwns Vista
[06:18] <daemoncollector> i like my Aqua
[06:18] <threeonefour> cafuego_, and then i just have to specify in grub to load suse   to mount hda2 as / right
[06:18] <Laughing_Cheese> I have the Live CD of Ubuntu 6.06LTS
[06:19] <daemoncollector> ;)
[06:19] <yi> what's the current beta version of ubuntu called, and where can I get an iso for it?
[06:19] <daemoncollector> Fiesty Fawn
[06:19] <cafuego_> lovloss: You think? I find waiting for the pretty animations to finish a bit irritating. Workspace switching should be instantaneous.
[06:19] <daemoncollector> herd 2 just came out...so yea, its around
[06:19] <n2diy> Laughing_Cheese: 6.06 will partition for you.
[06:19] <lovloss> cafuego_ You can tyurn those off. I like how it shrinks windows down when you touch the corner of your screen.
[06:19] <zcat[1] > cafuego: the defaults suck; speed up or turn off 90% of the effects and it's really sweet.
[06:19] <Laughing_Cheese> ah, so I just select which drive to partition on?
[06:19] <deepbluegene> hi. i wan to remove XAMPP from my system. what is the procedure to do that.
[06:19] <Laughing_Cheese> I have one drive that's about 150GB
[06:20] <Laughing_Cheese> that's my main drive
[06:20] <Laughing_Cheese> and then one that's about 55GB
[06:20] <Laughing_Cheese> and that's the one I want to put Ubuntu on
[06:20] <barata> hi ... anybody knows how to delete a Grub boot-sector in linux?
[06:20] <MaTT_Ubuntu> CHese
[06:20] <markoutthere> Hi all, I am trying to install SNORT and need to create tables in the MYSQL database, It says to run this command : mysql -u root -p < ~/snort-2.3.2/schemas/create_mysql snort
[06:20] <markoutthere> When I do that I get :bash: /home/marklar/snort-2.3.2/schemas/create_mysql: No such file or directory
[06:20] <markoutthere> What am I doing wrong?
[06:20] <m3talc0re> when i try to do something in konsole, i get E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[06:20] <MaTT_Ubuntu> I think u can get a really small partition to UBuntu
[06:20] <MaTT_Ubuntu> like
[06:20] <MaTT_Ubuntu> 10gb
[06:20] <MaTT_Ubuntu> u wont need 55gb
[06:20] <Laughing_Cheese> cool
[06:20] <Laughing_Cheese> I know,
[06:20] <daemoncollector> you can get even less
[06:20] <MaTT_Ubuntu> =)
[06:20] <threeonefour> cafuego_, and then i just have to specify in grub to load suse   to mount hda2 as / right
[06:20] <yi> does anyone use ubuntu in parallels by chance?
[06:21] <daemoncollector> barebones install is quite small
[06:21] <yi> i can't not seem to get 1440x900 working
[06:21] <lovloss> g2g guys. good luck Matt
[06:21] <mag_> hey do you know how can I hide some folders for some users with ACL's ?
[06:21] <MaTT_Ubuntu> Thanks lov
[06:21] <Laughing_Cheese> but I read the dual boot installation guide on the wiki,
[06:21] <m3talc0re> help? anyway
[06:21] <Laughing_Cheese> they recommended 20-30GB?
[06:21] <m3talc0re> anyone*
[06:22] <Laughing_Cheese> and 500MB swap partition?
[06:22] <Vorondil> Hi all, two quick questions, (1) Is 6.10 bi-arch on amd64?  (2) Is there an exhaustive  list of things different between the desktop and alternative installation images somewhere?
[06:22] <n2diy> Laughing_Cheese: what wiki was that!?
[06:22] <Laughing_Cheese> the official one...
[06:23] <Laughing_Cheese> let me see if I can find it, hold on...
[06:23] <MaTT_Ubuntu> u mean
[06:23] <Gun_Smoke> Will this mem http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820134144 work in this computer? http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=bph05263&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&product=61664#N404
[06:23] <n2diy> Laughing_Cheese: which is?
[06:23] <MaTT_Ubuntu> swap
[06:23] <userundefine> Vorondil, there's not much difference between them.  You can use both to install the same files for a desktop and wind up with the exact same thing after it's done
[06:23] <MaTT_Ubuntu> for swaping between partitions?
[06:23] <mag_> hey do you know how can I hide some folders for some users with ACL's ?
[06:23] <cafuego_> Laughing_Cheese: You need a minimum of 3 GB as /. If you want to store stuff as user, add space. if you want some space to add more applications, give / more.
[06:23] <n2diy> zcat[1] :  should lay down, and get a rest. :)
[06:23] <Bruco16> hi, anyone knows why "ro" options is in the /boot/grub/menu.lst? isn't it for "read-only", why isn't it rw??
[06:23] <Laughing_Cheese> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[06:23] <cafuego_> Laughing_Cheese: I tend to end up doing a 4GB / with a minimum 10GB /home and in between 256 and 512Mb swap.
[06:23] <MaTT_Ubuntu> @daemoncollector are u there?
[06:23] <Laughing_Cheese> there we go
[06:23] <JonTec__> why can't I set my essid with iwconfig??? It returns no output, but the essid stays off/any. It used to work fine. (etc/network/interfaces didn't even help)
[06:24] <daemoncollector> yea...im here
[06:24] <daemoncollector> whats up?
[06:24] <MaTT_Ubuntu> so
[06:24] <crimsun> Bruco16: because there's no need for it to be rw.
[06:24] <MaTT_Ubuntu> configure went on right
[06:24] <MaTT_Ubuntu> what do i do now?
[06:24] <daemoncollector> type ./make
[06:24] <cafuego_> Bruco16: Because if / is mounted read-write at bootup, fsck cannot fix filesystem errors that might need fixing.
[06:24] <MaTT_Ubuntu> no such file or directory
[06:24] <cafuego_> never type ./make
[06:24] <Laughing_Cheese> oh, do they need to be even numbers, like 256, 512?
[06:24] <n2diy> Laughing_Cheese: ah, win dual boot, don't know anything about that, I don't play with winders anymore.
[06:24] <Vorondil> userundefine: Good to know.  So does the difference lie solely in a text vs. gui installer?
[06:24] <daemoncollector> sorry
[06:24] <Laughing_Cheese> lol
[06:24] <cafuego_> Laughing_Cheese: Nope, prime numbers are fine too.
[06:24] <daemoncollector> type "make"
[06:24] <daemoncollector> better?
[06:25] <Laughing_Cheese> lol
[06:25] <Laughing_Cheese> how bout 1?
[06:25] <MaTT_Ubuntu> ok
[06:25] <Laughing_Cheese> :p
[06:25] <Vorondil> userundefine: Both capable of doing the same things?
[06:25] <userundefine> Vorondil, yes.  It's "text-based" GUI instead of a full X session.  The alternate is faster, IMO
[06:25] <cafuego_> Laughing_Cheese: 1 is fine, but not very useful <heh>
[06:25] <userundefine> Vorondil, yes
[06:25] <JonTec__> is there something that could have taken control of the settings for my wireless card?
[06:25] <Laughing_Cheese> lol
[06:25] <mag_> hey do you know how can I hide some folders for some users with ACL's ?
[06:25] <Bruco16> thx :~)
[06:25] <CzarAlex> How can I format a 2nd hard drive for use? I have one HD now with ubuntu on it and wish to add this second one for more space.
[06:25] <Laughing_Cheese> OK, I was trying to edit the partition manually
[06:26] <Laughing_Cheese> with the partition thing
[06:26] <n2diy> ! acl
[06:26] <daemoncollector> woot! My install worked
[06:26] <daemoncollector> got it up
[06:26] <zcat[1] > my next install I'm going to allocate pi/2 MB for swap...
[06:26] <daemoncollector> that sounds...wrong
[06:26] <userundefine> congrats
[06:26] <ubotu> acl: Access control list utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.39-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 42 kB, installed size 220 kB
[06:26] <n2diy> ! acl
[06:26] <MaTT_Ubuntu> congrats daemon
[06:26] <Laughing_Cheese> so you're saying I should just select a drive and let it automatically partition?
[06:26] <cafuego_> zcat[1] : Use 4 pi r instead!
[06:26] <MaTT_Ubuntu> ok i got even more errors lol
[06:26] <MaTT_Ubuntu> u know, lots of file missing cause its live
[06:26] <MaTT_Ubuntu> but i really ned to acess ntfs-3g
[06:27] <Vorondil> userundefine: I gotcha.  Thanks.  :)
[06:27] <Laughing_Cheese> Matt, are trying to install a Live CD?
[06:27] <n2diy> Laughing_Cheese: who are you talking to?
[06:27] <Laughing_Cheese> you I think :P
[06:27] <zcat[1] >  cafuego_: I think 1/2 pi * r (where R is real memory) is about right..
[06:27] <cafuego_> Laughing_Cheese: <heh>
[06:27] <Laughing_Cheese> n2diy :P
[06:27] <cafuego_> Laughing_Cheese: Look, if you're not happy with the way you've partitioned, you can always change it.
[06:27] <daemoncollector> Matt, what kinda errors
[06:28] <MaTT_Ubuntu> k ill past
[06:28] <Laughing_Cheese> oh, maybe it was you, cafuego :P
[06:28] <n2diy> Laughing_Cheese: You think? I don't know either, use my nick, ah, you just did, thank you. :)
[06:28] <Laughing_Cheese> lol
[06:28] <cafuego_> Laughing_Cheese: the only real way to find out what's best is to just do it and learn :-)
[06:28] <MaTT_Ubuntu> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc-3.4: co mmand not found
[06:28] <MaTT_Ubuntu> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 12: gcc-3.4: co mmand not found
[06:28] <cafuego_> MaTT_Ubuntu: Thank you for not pasting.
[06:28] <MaTT_Ubuntu> CAfuego, what do u mean?
[06:28] <zcat[1] > !paste
[06:28] <ubotu> paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[06:29] <daemoncollector> something went wrong with your configure it hink
[06:29] <daemoncollector> run it again
[06:29] <MaTT_Ubuntu> oh i didnt know
[06:29] <L_o_N_e_R> hi
[06:29] <zcat[1] > two lines isn't so bad though... just don't make a habit of it
[06:29] <riotkittie> oh i am dirnuk
[06:29] <MaTT_Ubuntu> k
[06:29] <cafuego_> MaTT_Ubuntu: You need a compiler. 'sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4'
[06:29] <riotkittie> anyway. stupid question time.
[06:29] <L_o_N_e_R> err i wanna run WoW
[06:29] <L_o_N_e_R> what do i use?
[06:29] <Laughing_Cheese> cafuego: so are you saying I should just let it partition automatically vs. doing the manual partition?
[06:29] <zcat[1] > !b-e | MaTT_Ubuntu
[06:29] <ubotu> MaTT_Ubuntu: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:29] <archangelpetro> has anyone here successfully managed to get secondlife working on amd64 ??
[06:29] <cafuego_> Laughing_Cheese: WHy not? If you don't like it, wipe it and try again :-)
[06:30] <CzarAlex> How can I format a 2nd hard drive for use? I have one HD now with ubuntu on it and wish to add this second one for more space.
[06:30] <Laughing_Cheese> that's the thing,
[06:30] <Laughing_Cheese> I don't really want to wipe the drive..
[06:30] <cafuego_> archangelpetro: Not yet, whines about libuuid
[06:30] <Laughing_Cheese> yet...
[06:30] <MaTT_Ubuntu> OKay, thanks a lot, really lot.
[06:30] <riotkittie> oh i keep meaning to check second0life out. thankns for reminding me.
[06:30] <MaTT_Ubuntu> BUt one question,, when i install the full version
[06:30] <n2diy> Laughing_Cheese: who are you talking to?
[06:30] <MaTT_Ubuntu> Will i have to download it all again?
[06:30] <Laughing_Cheese> arg
[06:30] <MaTT_Ubuntu> or it will come together?
[06:30] <Laughing_Cheese> cafuego :P
[06:30] <n2diy> Laughing_Cheese: :)
[06:31] <L_o_N_e_R> hmm
[06:31] <Laughing_Cheese> cafuego: I'm confused, will this let me do a dual boot this way?
[06:31] <L_o_N_e_R> u guys are too fast lol
[06:31] <L_o_N_e_R> ok
[06:31] <Laughing_Cheese> there's no low-level configuring and such that I need to do?
[06:31] <L_o_N_e_R> i wanna run world of warcraft
[06:31] <L_o_N_e_R> what do i use
[06:31] <MaTT_Ubuntu> make went right
[06:31] <cafuego_> Laughing_Cheese: No, if you want to dual boot I suggest doing a manula partition.
[06:31] <MaTT_Ubuntu> now what?
[06:31] <MaTT_Ubuntu> makeinstall?
[06:31] <zcat[1] > MaTT_Ubuntu: build-essential will give you most of what you need to build source. You won't need to dowwnload and unpack the source again, just run ./configure again and it'll find all the stuff that was missing last time.
[06:31] <Laughing_Cheese> OH ok then...
[06:32] <m3talc0re> okay
[06:32] <MaTT_Ubuntu> zcat hmm
[06:32] <zcat[1] > after make; make install usually
[06:32] <m3talc0re> i'm trying to do thsi
[06:32] <MaTT_Ubuntu> i got it
[06:32] <m3talc0re> this*
[06:32] <cafuego_> zcat[1] : the Ubuntu version he runs used a different gcc to compile the kernel.
[06:32] <m3talc0re> sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[06:32] <archangelpetro> cafuego, yea i had the same problem and couldnt find a 32bit version
[06:32] <zcat[1] > cafuego_ Ahhh.. ok
[06:32] <m3talc0re> but it keeps saying the package isn't found
[06:32] <cafuego_> L_o_N_e_R: maybe 'wine' can run it.
[06:32] <archangelpetro> cafuego_, yea i had the same problem and couldnt find a 32bit version
[06:32] <L_o_N_e_R> kk
[06:32] <L_o_N_e_R> thnx
[06:32] <n2diy> Laughing_Cheese: not unless your hard drive got munged, buy, say, a  winders intstall.
[06:32] <MaTT_Ubuntu> ok for make install ill have to root
[06:32] <Laughing_Cheese> LOL
[06:32] <MaTT_Ubuntu> wait a mom
[06:33] <zcat[1] > "sudo make install"
[06:33] <Laughing_Cheese> windows is on the OTHER drive ;)
[06:33] <MaTT_Ubuntu> hm
[06:33] <n2diy> Laughing_Cheese: are you LOLing at me? :)
[06:33] <m3talc0re> anyone?
[06:33] <Laughing_Cheese> yes lol :P
[06:33] <zcat[1] > windows likes to mess with any drives it can find....
[06:33] <archangelpetro> cafuego_, imagine there's any othe way of getting around it?
[06:34] <MaTT_Ubuntu> damn man
[06:34] <MaTT_Ubuntu> linux rules so much
[06:34] <MaTT_Ubuntu> +)
[06:34] <n2diy> Laughing_Cheese: well, I can' tell here, cause your not using my nick in your reply.
[06:34] <Laughing_Cheese> cafuego: alright, now how do I work the manual partitioner? :P
[06:34] <Laughing_Cheese> oh, sorry n2diy :P
[06:34] <zcat[1] > Laughing_Cheese: 'very carefully'
[06:34] <n2diy> Laughing_Cheese: :)
[06:34] <Laughing_Cheese> I don't hang out in IRC rooms a whole lot :P
[06:34] <elbeto> hi guys, I have a question, can you reinstall ubuntu without formatting the hard disk from the CD? Thanks
[06:34] <Laughing_Cheese> at least ones not this full
[06:35] <Laughing_Cheese> zcat: funny :P
[06:35] <m3talc0re> someone want to help ?
[06:35] <m3talc0re> i'm kinda screwed right now..
[06:35] <Laughing_Cheese> 889??? holy cheese!!!
[06:35] <Laughing_Cheese> users*
[06:35] <suamme1> any solutions or ideas for an IOCK error or "EIP is in acpi***" problem? I don't even know what it's talking about.
[06:35] <suamme1> or just a way I can verify my kernel is still good or something
[06:35] <zcat[1] > Laughing_Cheese: just go through the system menu, bringing a new drive up is pretty similar to how it's done in win2k...
[06:36] <m3talc0re> and i'm talking to myself i guess
[06:36] <elbeto> alo?
[06:36] <daemoncollector> what VNC server would you guys recomend?
[06:36] <zcat[1] > daemoncollector: It's built in :) "share my desktop"
[06:36] <elbeto> hi guys, I have a question, can you reinstall ubuntu without formatting the hard disk from the CD? Thanks
[06:36] <cafuego_> m3talc0re: You'll need to probably compile ntfs-3g manually.
[06:36] <n2diy> suammel, does the box boot without a kernel panick?
[06:36] <daemoncollector> where :P
[06:36] <m3talc0re> don't know how
[06:36] <daemoncollector> i havn't buntud it a long time
[06:36] <zcat[1] > ummm.. hang on
[06:36] <cafuego_> m3talc0re: I don't think it's prepackaged in any ubuntu version.
[06:37] <CzarAlex> anyone? how to format a second HD?
[06:37] <cafuego_> m3talc0re: MaTT_Ubuntu is doing it right now, he can help you ;-)
[06:37] <m3talc0re> i was trying to follow this: http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[06:37] <zcat[1] > system > preferences > Remote Desktop
[06:37] <Laughing_Cheese> zcat: I'm running the Ubuntu 6.06 installer,
[06:37] <Laughing_Cheese> step 5 is to choose which drive to install it on
[06:37] <samuel> sup all
[06:37] <suamme1> i think my client closed without me knowing it earlier... did anyone have help for my problem?
[06:37] <zcat[1] > Laughing_Cheese: you want to install to the new drive?
[06:37] <samuel> im trying to start a gnome session without a window manager or panels so as I can use all my apps well under enlightenment, but I do not want to change those settings under session properties since i often change from enlightenment session and gnome session. is there any way to do that from gnome-session?
[06:37] <n2diy> suammel, does the box boot without a kernel panick?
[06:37] <Laughing_Cheese> if you choose "manually edit partition" then it brings up a graphical partitioner
[06:38] <Laughing_Cheese> well it's not a "new" drive, you mean my second drive, yes
[06:38] <Laughing_Cheese> so I have Windows on one drive,
[06:38] <MaTT_Ubuntu> metalcore
[06:38] <m3talc0re> yeah
[06:38] <Laughing_Cheese> and ubuntu on another
[06:38] <MaTT_Ubuntu> tell me ur problem
[06:38] <daemoncollector> woot!
[06:38] <suamme1> n2diy: i believe so... i'm iusing it now, but it won't load my PCMCIA devices
[06:38] <m3talc0re> i'm trying to do "sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g" and it's saying the package isn't found
[06:39] <MaTT_Ubuntu> u must download the package first
[06:39] <daemoncollector> its a really slow VNC serv o.o
[06:39] <m3talc0re> http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710  <-- i was trying to follow that, but can't appearently :/
[06:39] <MaTT_Ubuntu> ill give u the link
[06:39] <MaTT_Ubuntu> wait a mom
[06:39] <n2diy> suammel, ok, if your box boots without a kernel panick, there is nothing wrong with your kernel.
[06:39] <zcat[1] > ummmm.. follow the instructions in the installer? they're pretty straightforward.
[06:39] <daemoncollector> is there anywhere to twak the setting s alittle?
[06:39] <MaTT_Ubuntu> http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfs-3g-download.html
[06:39] <MaTT_Ubuntu> there u go
[06:39] <fiendskull9> !repo
[06:39] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:39] <fiendskull9> hmm
[06:40] <fiendskull9> anyone know of a tutorial on setting up a repository, specifically for ubuntu?
[06:40] <fiendskull9> i found a few debian ones
[06:40] <MaTT_Ubuntu> when u download it, extract it and then warn me
[06:40] <fiendskull9> but im afraid they might not comply with ubuntu
[06:40] <CzarAlex> how can I format a drive to ext3 from the command line?
[06:40] <m3talc0re> aight
[06:40] <Laughing_Cheese> zcat: under "Create as:"
[06:40] <archangelpetro> haha cafuego_ is  the libuuid thing the reason you dont have the amd64.deb version in your repos?
[06:40] <cafuego_> CzarAlex: mkfs -t ext3 /dev/hdXY
[06:40] <cafuego_> archangelpetro: correct :-)
[06:40] <L_o_N_e_R> when im using the built in mouse on this laptop it some times goes crazy over the screen and clicks everywhere...how do i fix this?
[06:40] <Laughing_Cheese> should I choose, "Primary", "Logical", or "Extended" partition?
[06:40] <CzarAlex> cafuego: thanks!
[06:40] <zcat[1] > anyone know of a tutorial on cloning an existing repo into my existing apacke server (but only the i386 binaries...)
[06:41] <CzarAlex> cafuego: sudo?
[06:41] <zcat[1] > *apache
[06:41] <cafuego_> CzarAlex: yup
[06:41] <m3talc0re> okay, it's extracted
[06:41] <draco_silv> pardon my french..
[06:41] <CzarAlex> cafuego_ thanky.
[06:41] <archangelpetro> cafuego_, is there anyway i could install the 32bit version on my computer?
[06:41] <fiendskull9> zcat[1] : http://popey.com/Creating_an_Ubuntu_repository_mirror_with_apt-mirror
[06:41] <draco_silv> but that was the fucking problem... i was burning it too fast..
[06:41] <draco_silv> hey daemoncollector...
[06:41] <cafuego_> archangelpetro: It got GPLed earleir this week, maybe you cna simply build the source.
[06:41] <MaTT_Ubuntu> ok, do u know how to acess it though the console?
[06:41] <DBO> !ohmy | draco_silv
[06:41] <ubotu> draco_silv: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:41] <MaTT_Ubuntu> the terminal i mean
[06:41] <archangelpetro> oh and btw cafuego_  ur site was a bit of a lifesaver :)
[06:41] <draco_silv> okay..
[06:41] <m3talc0re> not really, lol
[06:42] <MaTT_Ubuntu> lol
[06:42] <archangelpetro> cafuego_, will try :D
[06:42] <MaTT_Ubuntu> ok
[06:42] <MaTT_Ubuntu> then
[06:42] <cafuego_> archangelpetro: The 32bit one will run fine in a 32bit chroot (there are wiki docs on setting one up)
[06:42] <MaTT_Ubuntu> move the files to a easy folder, and put the the folder an easy name
[06:42] <Laughing_Cheese> woops
[06:42] <cafuego_> archangelpetro: and np :-)
[06:42] <MaTT_Ubuntu> rename the downloaded folder, not the one ur going to move it
[06:42] <Laughing_Cheese> disconnected somehow
[06:42] <MaTT_Ubuntu> I need help, where can i find the fuse_utils and fuselib???
[06:42] <Laughing_Cheese> zcat: anyway, did you get what I said zcat?
[06:43] <MaTT_Ubuntu> i download the fuse package, did the installations process and it didnt added to the ubuntu
[06:43] <m3talc0re> okay, got it renamed, all i know is it's in some root directory
[06:43] <m3talc0re> my name
[06:43] <MaTT_Ubuntu> heres what it says
[06:43] <MaTT_Ubuntu> Metalcore: tell me the folder adress
[06:43] <m3talc0re> uh..
[06:43] <m3talc0re> m3talc0re? lol
[06:44] <m3talc0re> there isn't a damn address bar like in windows
[06:44] <MaTT_Ubuntu> lol
[06:44] <MaTT_Ubuntu> well, there is
[06:44] <MaTT_Ubuntu> in the top part
[06:44] <m3talc0re> the title bar?
[06:44] <toulouse> hey guys, how do i wipe a partition clean in ubuntu?
[06:44] <m3talc0re> m3talc0re - File Browser
[06:44] <concept10> !gstreamer
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:45] <n2diy> m3talc0re: danger, your talking to your self! :) run "sudo updatedb" in a terminal, and try it again.
[06:45] <toulouse> i tried putting another linux on a different partition, but grub wont recognize that os
[06:45] <m3talc0re> huh?
[06:45] <cafuego_> m3talc0re: hit ctrl+l
[06:45] <n2diy> m3talc0re: danger, your talking to your self! :) run "sudo updatedb" in a terminal, and try it again.
[06:45] <Flannel> toulouse: what do you mean?
[06:45] <m3talc0re> ah ha, thanks cafuego
[06:45] <zcat[1] > toulouse: really wipe clean? dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdxx
[06:45] <m3talc0re> crap
[06:45] <concept10> Anyone know what version of gstreamer is installed by default on edgy?  is it 0.8 or 0.10?
[06:45] <m3talc0re> ... /home/m3talc0re
[06:46] <m3talc0re> that's where the folder is matt
[06:46] <cafuego_> Please, no faeces on the floor.
[06:46] <MaTT_Ubuntu> yeah, metalcore ok
[06:46] <toulouse> well, the operating system (dreamlinux) will not show up in grub, and i dont know how to boot into it
[06:46] <MaTT_Ubuntu> lol, u named the folder m3t4lc0re?
[06:46] <Flannel> toulouse: you'll need to add an entry for it
[06:46] <crimsun> concept10: 0.10
[06:46] <toulouse> Flannel: how would i go about doing that
[06:46] <Flannel> toulouse: since it obviously didn't do it itself
[06:46] <m3talc0re> the folder for the file is named ntfsmounter
[06:46] <zcat[1] > gtg
[06:46] <MaTT_Ubuntu> ok
[06:46] <MaTT_Ubuntu> then do
[06:46] <m3talc0re> so it'd be /home/m3talc0re/ntfsmounter
[06:46] <MaTT_Ubuntu> cd ~/ntfsmounter
[06:46] <concept10> crimsun, would you happen to have a pretty fresh install?
[06:47] <crimsun> concept10: not of 6.10.
[06:47] <Flannel> toulouse: where is dreamlinux located?
[06:47] <draco_silv> well i figured out my problem... so see you all!
[06:47] <m3talc0re> okay
[06:47] <toulouse> it's on sda6
[06:47] <m3talc0re> done
[06:47] <djancak> anybody have an idea why i cant write to my mounted HDB1 except as SU?
[06:47] <MaTT_Ubuntu> it went right?
[06:47] <draco_silv> tell daemoncollector that to try to burn the cd's slower.
[06:47] <toulouse> so i guess /dev/sda6 ?
[06:47] <concept10> crimsun, I asked because I keep having to install 0.10 libraries to get some stuff working
[06:47] <m3talc0re> i'm in that directory now i guess?
[06:47] <draco_silv> i got my install to get further than it did before..
[06:47] <Flannel> toulouse: is it all one partition?
[06:48] <Laughing_Cheese> zcat, cafuego, you there?
[06:48] <toulouse> dreamlinux? or my computer?
[06:48] <elbeto> hi guys, I have a question, can you reinstall ubuntu without formatting the hard disk from the CD? Thanks
[06:48] <toulouse> dreamlinux is on a seperate partition from ubuntu
[06:48] <Flannel> toulouse: dreamlinux is all on one partition?
[06:48] <toulouse> i believe so, yes
[06:49] <m3talc0re> what next?
[06:49] <n2diy> elbeto, yes, just don't format the partitions during the install.
[06:49] <MaTT_Ubuntu> type
[06:49] <MaTT_Ubuntu> ./configure
[06:49] <Crankymonky> I have a problem where I can only have 1 application using a sound card.  I can get something to come out of my sound card and my USB headset(acts as own sound card) but not only out of one.
[06:49] <m3talc0re> no such file or directory
[06:49] <suamme2> n2diy: i got cut off again.... i can boot my box, but it floods a term at random times though
[06:50] <MaTT_Ubuntu> no
[06:50] <MaTT_Ubuntu> use the point before the bar
[06:50] <MaTT_Ubuntu> point bar configure
[06:50] <Flannel> toulouse: you'll be editing /boot/grub/menu.lst, andadding in a dreamlinux section.  You should ask them (#dreamlinux) about specifics though, I dont know them.
[06:50] <m3talc0re> oh
[06:51] <m3talc0re> okay, it's done
[06:51] <m3talc0re> now what
[06:51] <toulouse> okie dokie, i dont know much about this, so im not sure if im going to get it working, but thanks anyways
[06:51] <n2diy> suamme: what was the original problem? and what happens if you let the flood pass?
[06:52] <Flannel> toulouse: the grub config file is pretty easy to follow.  You'll just need specifics (file names in your dreamlinux's /boot folder) to put into your menu.lst
[06:52] <MaTT_Ubuntu> now
[06:52] <MaTT_Ubuntu> type
[06:52] <MaTT_Ubuntu> make
[06:52] <suamme2> i get this message (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1400) , the system stutters, and i can continue working... PCMCIA isn't working anymore.
[06:53] <toulouse> Flannel: this might help me, when i put the files onto the partition, it asked me whether i wanted to install grub, i said no because i figured ubuntu has it already
[06:53] <m3talc0re> just type "make" ?
[06:53] <MaTT_Ubuntu> yeah
[06:53] <toulouse> should i have typed yes?
[06:53] <Flannel> toulouse: no, you shouldn'tve.  You just need to append the menu.lst with the dreamlinux stuff
[06:53] <m3talc0re> no targets specified and no makefile found
[06:53] <toulouse> hmm.. ok
[06:53] <deepbluegene> hello. how to install apache , php and mysql on ubuntu 6.10
[06:53] <Flannel> !lamp | deepbluegene
[06:53] <ubotu> deepbluegene: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:53] <m3talc0re> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[06:53] <n2diy> suamme: are you talking to me? I can't tell because you didn't include my nick in your message.
[06:53] <MaTT_Ubuntu> hm
[06:53] <MaTT_Ubuntu> did ur configure made some error?
[06:53] <Laughing_Cheese_> zcat, cafuego?
[06:54] <m3talc0re> checking for fuse >= 2.6.0... configure: error: ntfs-3g requires FUSE >= 2.6.0. Please see http://fuse.sf.net/ or install __all__ FUSE packages (e.g. fuse, fuse-utils, libfuse, libfuse2, libfuse-dev) or remove already installed __older__ FUSE.
[06:54] <deepbluegene> ubotu:thanx
[06:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:54] <suamme2> n2diy: ah, yes, i'm sorry.. you asked my original problem...
[06:54] <MaTT_Ubuntu> oh yeah
[06:54] <MaTT_Ubuntu> u need to install fuse first
[06:54] <MaTT_Ubuntu> fuse package
[06:54] <MaTT_Ubuntu> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=121684&package_id=132802
[06:54] <hubcio> hi folks..
[06:55] <MaTT_Ubuntu> download it here
[06:55] <MaTT_Ubuntu> and do the whole configure process
[06:55] <n2diy> suamme: roger, wait, I'm going to look at your paste.
[06:55] <Vorondil> So does anybody know if 6.10 is biarch on amd64?  While google'ing around for it, I keep reading things from before 6.10 was released saying apt can't handle biarch.  However, on the Community Questions page at help.ubuntu.com, it says Ubuntu *might* be biarch compatible by 6.10.  So is it?
[06:55] <Flannel> Vorondil: biarch?
[06:56] <cafuego_> Vorondil: it's not
[06:56] <m3talc0re> aight, gimme amin
[06:56] <m3talc0re> a min*
[06:56] <MaTT_Ubuntu> whats the use of updatedb comm?
[06:56] <daemoncollector> there...intsalled a diff VNC client
[06:57] <daemoncollector> i didnt like the included one
[06:57] <cafuego_> MaTT_Ubuntu: it creates a searchable list of files
[06:57] <MaTT_Ubuntu> hm
[06:57] <Pie-rate> is there any way to totally reset everything to do with sound?
[06:57] <m3talc0re> do i have to do the "make" for fuse?
[06:57] <Vorondil> cafuego_: Ah, okay.
[06:57] <Vorondil> Thanks.  :)
[06:57] <MaTT_Ubuntu> yeah
[06:57] <n2diy> suamme: ok, that is over my head, but, on line two, there is a reference to hotplup, I believe that is outdated.
[06:57] <MaTT_Ubuntu> did ur configure went allright?
[06:58] <m3talc0re> done
[06:58] <m3talc0re> yeah
[06:58] <MaTT_Ubuntu> did u make the make/
[06:58] <suamme1> n2diy: i'm running edgy and i haven't done much of anything custom to it ( other than a few installs)
[06:58] <n2diy> hotplup/hotblug*
[06:58] <m3talc0re> just did the make for fuse
[06:58] <daemoncollector> you mean hotplug?
[06:58] <daemoncollector> :P
[06:58] <m3talc0re> go back and do make for ntfs?
[06:58] <MaTT_Ubuntu> nope
[06:58] <MaTT_Ubuntu> now type
[06:59] <MaTT_Ubuntu> sudo make file
[06:59] <MaTT_Ubuntu> for fuse
[06:59] <MaTT_Ubuntu> i mean
[06:59] <MaTT_Ubuntu> no
[06:59] <MaTT_Ubuntu> nono
[06:59] <n2diy> daemoncollector: yes
[06:59] <MaTT_Ubuntu> sudo make install
[06:59] <m3talc0re> ?
[06:59] <m3talc0re> ok
[06:59] <m3talc0re> done
[06:59] <MaTT_Ubuntu> no errors at all?
[06:59] <m3talc0re> no
[06:59] <MaTT_Ubuntu> type updatedb
[07:00] <m3talc0re> updatedb: fatal error: You are not authorized to create a default slocate database!
[07:00] <MaTT_Ubuntu> sudo it
[07:00] <n2diy> suamme: well, your living on the edgy. :) I'm staying with LTS, so good luck.
[07:00] <m3talc0re> kj
[07:00] <m3talc0re> k*
[07:00] <MaTT_Ubuntu> it may take several minutes
[07:00] <MaTT_Ubuntu> lolol
[07:00] <suamme1> n2diy, thanks!
[07:00] <m3talc0re> lol
[07:00] <m3talc0re> aight, cuz it aint doin' anything yet
[07:00] <archangelpetro> cafuego_, are you aware of any possibility in the near future of libuuid becoming available for amd64?
[07:00] <n2diy> suamme: nada, gl
[07:00] <m3talc0re> it's done i think
[07:01] <cafuego_> archangelpetro: doesn't it have its own?
[07:01] <archangelpetro> well i mean the 32 bit version
[07:02] <archangelpetro> so that secondlife wouldnt complain
[07:02] <MaTT_Ubuntu> uh
[07:02] <MaTT_Ubuntu> ok
[07:02] <MaTT_Ubuntu> now
[07:02] <archangelpetro> and i woudlnt necessarily have to compile it or run it from chroot environ.
[07:02] <MaTT_Ubuntu> do configure again to ntfs
[07:02] <m3talc0re> k
[07:02] <SilentDis> 'lo :)
[07:02] <archangelpetro> lo
[07:02] <toulouse> ok, guys i want to clean off a partition, but want to leave it there for future use, how do i go about doing this
[07:02] <cafuego_> archangelpetro: I doubt it. You should see fully 64bit secondlife coming out soon enough, now that the soruce is open.
[07:02] <noobcook> whats the command to make Console Ontop of windows
[07:02] <archangelpetro> cafuego, it seems strange to me that they wrote it in c++ instead of java
[07:02] <noobcook> ?
[07:03] <m3talc0re> done
[07:03] <cafuego_> archangelpetro: java would be *horribly* slow
[07:03] <lun> hi all, how to get the most current kernel, i.e. 2.6.20 working in edgy? is there a tutorial?
[07:03] <archangelpetro> cafuego_, well i see a reason now :D
[07:03] <cafuego_> lun: Is the current kernel not working right?
[07:04] <MaTT_Ubuntu> then
[07:04] <deepsa> lun, use fiesty it has 2.6.20 in updates
[07:04] <MaTT_Ubuntu> do make
[07:04] <MaTT_Ubuntu> and
[07:04] <MaTT_Ubuntu> after
[07:04] <MaTT_Ubuntu> sudo make instal
[07:04] <m3talc0re> k
[07:04] <lun> the nvidia driver and ndiswrapper problem is fixed in the new 2.6.20 kernel, that's why I want it
[07:04] <somerville32> deepsa: Please don't recommend people to use a developmental version of Ubuntu.
[07:04] <deepsa> somerville32, okay
[07:04] <n2diy> ! repeat | MaTT_Ubuntu
[07:04] <ubotu> MaTT_Ubuntu: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:04] <somerville32> :)
[07:04] <lun> Can I upgrade my edgy directly into fiesty?
[07:05] <cafuego_> deepsa: the feisty 2.6.20 kernel has broken wifi support
[07:05] <MaTT_Ubuntu> wtf? i didnt repeat a question O.o lol
[07:05] <somerville32> lun: Please see #ubuntu+1 for Feisty Support.
[07:05] <SilentDis> lun, sorry to probe, i'm running the latest nvidia driver with 2.6.17-10, and having no issue.  what problems are you having?
[07:05] <n2diy> whoops
[07:05] <deepsa> lun, you can get the vanilla sources from kernel.org and compile on your own its very easy
[07:05] <m3talc0re> done and done
[07:05] <MaTT_Ubuntu> ok now
[07:05] <n2diy> ! enter | MaTT_Ubuntu
[07:05] <ubotu> MaTT_Ubuntu: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:05] <MaTT_Ubuntu> do u know the ntfs-3g scripts?
[07:05] <Vorondil> Time for bed.  Thanks all, and g'night. :)
[07:05] <m3talc0re> no
[07:05] <mneptok> lun: Fiesty is a development release. it is not suitable for production use.
[07:05] <MaTT_Ubuntu> Is your main partition C:
[07:05] <MaTT_Ubuntu> ?
[07:05] <somerville32> n2diy, That wasn't really needed.
[07:05] <Spaghetti_Knife> How do i remove directories?
[07:05] <m3talc0re> you mean winxp?
[07:05] <Spaghetti_Knife> I mean from the command line?
[07:05] <MaTT_Ubuntu> YEah
[07:05] <deepsa> MaTT_Ubuntu, ntfs-3g i have. and i installed it via apt-get
[07:06] <m3talc0re> yeah, it's c
[07:06] <lun> SilentDis, the problem with ndiswrapper conflicting the nvidia using IRQ 177 at the same time
[07:06] <cafuego_> Spaghetti_Knife: 'rmdir <directory>'
[07:06] <MaTT_Ubuntu> ok then
[07:06] <SilentDis> lun, ahhhh
[07:06] <n2diy> somerville32: no?
[07:06] <donpachi> how do i shot web?
[07:06] <lun> thanks deepsa
[07:06] <cafuego_> Spaghetti_Knife: Note; that only works for empty directories.
[07:06] <Flannel> Spaghetti_Knife: rm -f, or rmfir
[07:06] <LucianSolaris> i b stoned wooowooowooowooooo
[07:06] <MaTT_Ubuntu> try typing this:
[07:06] <ablyss> rm -fr ./directory
[07:06] <MaTT_Ubuntu> ntfs-3g -o umask=0,silent /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
[07:06] <mneptok> Spaghetti_Knife: rm -rf /path/to/dir
[07:06] <SilentDis> lun, then i'd say hitting kernel.org and hand-compiling would be your best bet.  i haven't done that in a while, so i'm not the best one to ask for a step by step.
[07:07] <Qubert> LucianSolaris, goddamn lucky bugger
[07:07] <lun> :D SilentDis, thanks anyway, I'll try to google for a step by step:D
[07:07] <cafuego_> lun: install `kernel-package' and have  alook at the docs. it contains kernel build scripts that produced a custom .deb from a vanilla source.
[07:07] <m3talc0re> Error opening partition device: Permission denied
[07:07] <m3talc0re> Failed to startup volume: Permission denied
[07:07] <m3talc0re> Failed to mount '/dev/hda1': Permission denied
[07:07] <Qubert> >_> I'm looking for some wireless card help, atheros chipset, any takers?
[07:07] <Jordan_U> lun: What is your problem?
[07:07] <MaTT_Ubuntu> sudo it
[07:07] <n2diy> somerville32: four lines, six words?
[07:07] <MaTT_Ubuntu> and cross ur fingers
[07:07] <m3talc0re> lol
[07:07] <lun> ndiswrapper conflicting nvidia driver, they both use IRQ 177.
[07:08] <somerville32> n2diy, He was emphasizing that they were different commands. However, it was obvious he hit enter by mistake inbetween.
[07:08] <cafuego_> n2diy: he's helping someone, it's fine.
[07:08] <m3talc0re> Failed to mount '/dev/hda1': Operation not supported
[07:08] <m3talc0re> Mount is denied because NTFS is unclean. Choose one of these actions:
[07:08] <m3talc0re>    Boot Windows and shutdown it cleanly, or if you have a removable
[07:08] <m3talc0re>    device then click the 'Safely Remove Hardware' icon in the Windows
[07:08] <m3talc0re>    taskbar notification area before disconnecting it.
[07:08] <m3talc0re> Or
[07:08] <m3talc0re>    Run 'ntfsfix' on Linux unless you have Vista, then mount NTFS with
[07:08] <m3talc0re>    the 'force' option read-write, or with the 'ro' option read-only.
[07:08] <m3talc0re> Or
[07:08] <m3talc0re>    Mount the NTFS volume with the 'ro' option in read-only mode.
[07:08] <m3talc0re> sorry
[07:08] <deepsa> lol try www.pastebin.ca please don't paste here
[07:08] <somerville32> n2diy: This would be a good time to use the patebin factoid ;] 
[07:09] <lun> for those who are so kind to be concerned about my problem, look at this thread: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/57355
[07:09] <Tonren> What music players provide out-of-the-box support for WMA?
[07:09] <deepsa> audacious with its plugins
[07:09] <cafuego_> Tonren: vlc perhaps
[07:09] <MaTT_Ubuntu> MEtal
[07:09] <MaTT_Ubuntu> TRy one of those things
[07:09] <Tonren> cafuego_: Any others?  I'm trying to provide a list to a very computer-wary friend of mine who has chosen to use Ubuntu.
[07:09] <SilentDis> a while ago, i lost my usplash screen, and i finally found the 'missing piece', and i'm hoping someone has a solution for me on this:  I get this error "usplash: no usable theme found for 1024x768".  where do I go to change the res that usplash uses?
[07:09] <n2diy> somerville32: cafuego, well thinks scroll by fast enough here, just tryiing to slow things down a bit.
[07:09] <michaelpo> mplayer
[07:10] <n2diy> thinks/things*
[07:10] <cafuego_> Tonren: Not many, not unless you install w32codecs
[07:10] <michaelpo> realplayer
[07:10] <somerville32> n2diy: And thats respectable but don't be too easy to jump onto people's cases ;] 
[07:10] <Tonren> cafuego_: Do you install that with just "sudo aptitude install w32codecs"?  Once installed, which applications will play WMAs without any more finagling?
[07:10] <n2diy> somerville32: 10-4
[07:10] <Jordan_U> Tonren: Anything which uses xine as a backend
[07:10] <MaTT_Ubuntu> n2diy i made it right, right?
[07:10] <cafuego_> Tonren: If only. it's not in any official repositories, so it requires fiddling.
[07:10] <m3talc0re> what do i replace in the crap you told me?
[07:11] <domas> hi! are jfs instabilities at 2.6.17 known to general public?
[07:11] <m3talc0re> the o?
[07:11] <MaTT_Ubuntu> nop
[07:11] <mag_> Can somebody tell me how can I send a file with ssh ?
[07:11] <MaTT_Ubuntu> WHat are u going to do with ntfs-3g?
[07:11] <mneptok> n2diy: use a mental /ignore firt. if the problem persists over time, b!tch. ;)
[07:11] <MaTT_Ubuntu> copy files?
[07:11] <mag_> Can somebody tell me how can I send a file with ssh ?
[07:11] <toulouse> hey guys, i want to clean off a partition on my hard drive, how do i dot hat
[07:11] <mneptok> *first
[07:11] <cafuego_> mag_: scp file user@host:/some/dir
[07:11] <toulouse> *do that
[07:11] <Tonren> cafuego_: Gah... lame.
[07:11] <m3talc0re> wanting to be able to read/write files from the partition
[07:11] <n2diy> MaTT_Ubuntu: if someone elso learns to, yes :)
[07:11] <SilentDis> toulouse, you're looking to format a partition, correct?
[07:12] <Tonren> cafuego_: I think I'll just tell him to install EasyUbuntu
[07:12] <cafuego_> Tonren: well...
[07:12] <m3talc0re> like editing psd files and such
[07:12] <domas> mag: ssh somewhere cat '>' filelocation < file
[07:12] <toulouse> SilentDis: wipe it clean, but leave it there ,yes
[07:12] <cafuego_> Tonren: maybe make him be a guinea pig for Mint Ubuntu
[07:12] <IndyGunFreak> I hate easyubuntu
[07:12] <mag_> cafuego_: thank's !
[07:12] <yi> When I do a apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:12] <Tonren> cafuego_: What's that?
[07:12] <Tonren> IndyGunFreak: Howcome?
[07:12] <SilentDis> !gparted | toulouse
[07:12] <ubotu> toulouse: gparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[07:12] <yi> I get
[07:12] <yi> E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on python-minimal
[07:12] <yi> any ideas how to fix that
[07:12] <mag_> domas: Thsnk's !
[07:12] <cafuego_> Tonren: A custom ubuntu with all codecs and dvd stuff already built-in.
[07:12] <IndyGunFreak> Tonren, it just sucks, if you're gonna try one of those auto programs like that, try Automatix
[07:12] <Tonren> cafuego_: Ooo.
[07:12] <IndyGunFreak> it installs more programs anyways
[07:12] <Tonren> IndyGunFreak: I heard Automatix was even worse!
[07:12] <SilentDis> toulouse, that'll let you format/adjust/etc etc your drive from a gui, might be easier for ya than the commands (which I forget constantly anyway lol)
[07:13] <toulouse> thanks man
[07:13] <suamme1> so, can anyone tell me what this type of error is called or what type of problem generates it so i can try to do some web searches to try to fix it? [22:53]  suammE 1: me and alan are bored, wanna drink?
[07:13] <suamme1> [22:53]  BranMuffin85: hmm maybe here in a little
[07:13] <suamme1> [22:53]  suammE 1: in a little?? shiiiiit neeeegro... it's already 11
[07:13] <suamme1> [22:54]  BranMuffin85: hahah in a little man
[07:13] <suamme1> [22:55]  suammE 1: hell, i don't think i'll fit in a little man... why can't we drink in a big man... or better yet, an apartment or house.
[07:13] <IndyGunFreak> Automatix to Easy Ubuntu, there's no comparison.
[07:13] <suamme1> [22:55]  BranMuffin85: haha
[07:13] <MaTT_Ubuntu> then
[07:13] <MaTT_Ubuntu> use force
[07:13] <Jordan_U> !Automatix
[07:13] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:13] <MaTT_Ubuntu> ntfsfix and force
[07:13] <m3talc0re> what do i type?
[07:13] <gar-sleep> hi im missing a2ensite and lots of folder on /etc/apache2 how i can recover those i try apt-get install apache2 and remove it same and still dont find it...
[07:13] <cafuego_> gar-sleep: apache2-common
[07:13] <Jordan_U> IndyGunFreak: Please don't recommend automatix here
[07:13] <toulouse> SilentDis: so what im looking to do is format the partition? i want to leave it there, but wipe it clean
[07:14] <IndyGunFreak> Jordan_U, whatever
[07:14] <MaTT_Ubuntu> force i think
[07:14] <MaTT_Ubuntu> before the -o
[07:14] <IndyGunFreak> regardless, Easy Ubuntu sucks
[07:14] <mneptok> *none* of those scripts are a good idea.
[07:14] <IndyGunFreak> the *other* one works much better in my opinion
[07:14] <gar-sleep> cafuego_: still apache2-common is already the newest version.
[07:14] <m3talc0re> what about for the ntfsfix?
[07:14] <MaTT_Ubuntu> n2diy, Can you help me?
[07:14] <MaTT_Ubuntu> type ntfsfix first
[07:14] <IndyGunFreak> mneptok, i've heard people say that, but iv'e neverhad a problem with it.
[07:14] <MaTT_Ubuntu> n2diy, ill past it here, cause i cant do it on pastbin
[07:15] <MaTT_Ubuntu> fusermount: failed to access mountpoint /mnt/hda1: No such file or directory
[07:15] <MaTT_Ubuntu> Failed to create FUSE mount point: No such file or directory
[07:15] <SilentDis> toulouse, yep, make sure it's unmounted, then just right click, format it however you want.  if you're looking to securely wipe a drive (IE, remove all docs and overwrite so the fuzz can't read your pr0n), you'll be looking elsewhere... but that'll get the job done otherwise ;)
[07:15] <cafuego_> gar-sleep: oh, maybe an actual worker is missing. install apache2-mpm-prefork
[07:16] <MaTT_Ubuntu> Metal, follow this: ntfsfix <enter> that stuff plus force before -o <enter>
[07:16] <n2diy> MaTT_Ubuntu: sorry, I have no experience with fuse, gl.
[07:16] <toulouse> SilentDis: i think just gettting rid of dreamlinux doesnt require max-security stuff, but i need to make sure it's unmounted? is that option available in gparted?
[07:16] <MaTT_Ubuntu> lol
[07:16] <mneptok> IndyGunFreak: "Works For Me" is not a solid platform from which to launch new, inexperienced users at proven problematic scripts ;)
[07:16] <MaTT_Ubuntu> Does someone have experience with FUse?
[07:16] <Qubert> so are there any wireless gurus in here tonight?
[07:16] <MaTT_Ubuntu> fusermount: failed to access mountpoint /mnt/hda1: No such file or directory
[07:16] <MaTT_Ubuntu> Failed to create FUSE mount point: No such file or directory
[07:16] <MaTT_Ubuntu> WHats wrong?
[07:16] <SilentDis> toulouse, lol yes, again, right click on the partition, and there should be a umount option right there.
[07:16] <mneptok> Qubert: what do you need to do?
[07:16] <Qubert> I want to get my wireless card working on my laptop
[07:17] <Qubert> something mysterious happened this morning
[07:17] <mneptok> Qubert: what card?
[07:17] <Qubert> worked for a few hours, I changed nothing, now it works
[07:17] <Qubert> dwl-650, atheros chipset
[07:17] <Qubert> dwl-g650*
[07:17] <Qubert> dlink
[07:17] <Naik0> Is it possible to change from swedish to english in gimp?
[07:17] <Tonren> cafuego_: Will Rhythmbox support WMAs once w32codecs has been installed?
[07:17] <mneptok> 01:17 < Qubert> worked for a few hours, I changed nothing, now it works
[07:17] <Qubert> pci card
[07:17] <toulouse> SilentDis: soz, ima noob, but if the partition was mounted, would it show up in the right side of nautilus? cause i dont see the partition anywhere
[07:18] <Bruco16> is it possible make Ubuntu run as a server?
[07:18] <Qubert> hrm
[07:18] <mneptok> if it works now ....
[07:18] <cafuego_> Tonren: Yes, provided the correct gstreamer plugins are installed
[07:18] <Qubert> mneptok, it's not working
[07:18] <mneptok> Bruco16: of course
[07:18] <Qubert> I'm wired right now
[07:18] <Jordan_U> toulouse: not necissarily
[07:18] <Qubert> also when it was working
[07:18] <Tonren> cafuego_: Ah, man.  I don't want to make my friend deal with all that rubbish.
[07:18] <gar-sleep> cafuego_: ok now i have it but on /etc/apache2/mods-enable is emty and the others one
[07:18] <Qubert> only had ath0
[07:18] <toulouse> SilentDis: and oh, gparted says it needs root privelages, so do i go to terminal and type "sudo gparted "?
[07:18] <Jordan_U> toulouse: Check /mnt and /media
[07:18] <Bruco16> :~)
[07:18] <Qubert> now I get this wifi0 showing up with no wireless extensions
[07:18] <mneptok> Qubert: that's fine
[07:18] <Naik0> Is it possible to change from swedish to english in gimp?
[07:18] <Qubert> and lshw says it's the logical name of ath0
[07:18] <Qubert> which is even more confusing
[07:18] <Jordan_U> toulouse: gksudo gparted
[07:19] <cafuego_> gar-sleep: mods-eanbled can be empty, there is nothing wrong with that.
[07:19] <SilentDis> toulouse, really depends, but gparted does a decent job of 'finding' that kind of stuff for you.  to run it, you can just go System > Administration > Gnome Partition Editor
[07:19] <mneptok> Qubert: did you install network-manager-gnome?
[07:19] <Tonren> cafuego_: You know, now that I think about it, it's surprising that EasyUbuntu and Automatix's features aren't reflected more readily in Ubuntu's out-of-the-box capabilities.  It surprises me that it's really so hard to consistently provide that kind of support.
[07:19] <m3talc0re> i can't figure out how to do this ntfsfix
[07:19] <Qubert> hmmmm, dunno if I did that
[07:19] <gar-sleep> cafuego_: but i use to have all the mod enable for my site and now they are gone
[07:19] <mneptok> Qubert: do that ;)
[07:19] <Qubert> is that the gui for network?
[07:19] <cafuego_> gar-sleep: Can you just re-add them?
[07:19] <Jordan_U> Tonren: Fiesty aims to fix that :)
[07:19] <mneptok> Qubert: it is
[07:19] <Bruco16> mneptok: my "user-space" will still be available? or does it turn to another environment?
[07:19] <Tonren> Jordan_U: Really?  That's ambitious.
[07:20] <Qubert> system->administration->networking
[07:20] <Qubert> that?
[07:20] <Qubert> cause that is there
[07:20] <SilentDis> Tonren, I'm in some agreement, but the reason for that is the whole 'all OSS, only OSS, only FREE software' deal.  the stuff that automatix and easyubuntu does is install mostly non-free stuff.
[07:20] <mneptok> Bruco16: all the server version does is remove X11 and all associated apps
[07:20] <mneptok> Qubert: nope. try it. :)
[07:20] <Tonren> SilentDis: Ah!  I had forgotten about that.
[07:20] <MaTT_Ubuntu> metal did u try typing ntfs-3g ntfsfix?
[07:20] <Bruco16> mneptok: so it turns "better" on command line?? no ^^
[07:21] <Bruco16> mneptok: a lot to learn??
[07:21] <Tonren> SilentDis: It's a shame that the overall quality of user experience with Ubuntu is being dragged down by a lack of willingness to support non-free software out of the box.  I can see why they feel it's important, though.  (Legality issues aside.)
[07:21] <mneptok> Bruco16: i don't understand the question
[07:21] <SilentDis> Tonren, of the 2, I'd have to say EasyUbuntu does the better job, obviously.  I still prefer the envy script for grabbing the latest nvidia blob of course.
[07:21] <toulouse> SilentDis: in gparted my partition im looking to clean does not have a mountpoint in the list, does this mean it is not mounted? also, i wish to format it as ext3 right?
[07:21] <MaTT_Ubuntu> YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[07:21] <MaTT_Ubuntu> I MADE
[07:21] <MaTT_Ubuntu> OMFG!
[07:21] <Tonren> SilentDis: Well, all my friend wants is WMA support.  Heh!
[07:21] <MaTT_Ubuntu> I MADE IT
[07:22] <MaTT_Ubuntu> LOLOL
[07:22] <Tenri1> Hey, guys.
[07:22] <m3talc0re> mat
[07:22] <Tenri1> GIMP isn't working
[07:22] <Qubert> oh hay mneptok, found it and installing now
[07:22] <m3talc0re> matt*, i can't figure out how to run this ntfsfix
[07:22] <mneptok> Tonren: "legality issues aside" is like saying "i could live on Mars, you know, lack of breathable atmosphere aside" ;)
[07:22] <domas> mhm
[07:22] <MaTT_Ubuntu> MEtal
[07:22] <MaTT_Ubuntu> did u try
[07:22] <MaTT_Ubuntu> doing
[07:22] <toulouse> Tenril: sucks, maybe uninstall and reinstall
[07:22] <Tenri1> ok
[07:22] <Jordan_U> Tonren: There is a nonfree-extras ( or something ) meta package in Feisty that installs all the non free codecs among other things
[07:22] <Tenri1> I'll try that
[07:22] <MaTT_Ubuntu> ntfs-3g ntfsfix?
[07:22] <SilentDis> Tonren, i'd like to see more of that stuff provided in a canocal listed repo, actually.  easy to use/install .debs, and even have the tool prompt you 'this is not free, blah blah blah' when you go to install.  would solve the issue
[07:22] <m3talc0re> yeah
[07:22] <MaTT_Ubuntu> uhh
[07:22] <MaTT_Ubuntu> well
[07:23] <mneptok> SilentDis: it's not that easy
[07:23] <MaTT_Ubuntu> one sugestion
[07:23] <Bruco16> mneptok: I mean, tjere's usally some way the make things go "better" in command line 'mode'. Is monitoring / administring / maintaining a server only in command line mode, or does it turn also under graphical server?
[07:23] <Tonren> mneptok: rofl, I can't argue with you there
[07:23] <MaTT_Ubuntu> create a folder called mount
[07:23] <MaTT_Ubuntu> in ur home folder
[07:23] <SilentDis> toulouse, then it's fine to just drop it.  ubuntu didn't find/mount it.  and you can format it however you want.  ext3 would probably be a best bet though
[07:23] <Tonren> mneptok: I was just trying to say that, even if there WEREN'T legality issues, I could see why Shuttleworth & Co. want to keep Ubuntu homogeneous in its freedom.
[07:23] <SilentDis> mneptok, i know, but I can dream, can't i?  :)
[07:23] <Tonren> Jordan_U: That sounds awesome!
[07:24] <Qubert> mneptok, just command line access to this?
[07:24] <Tonren> SilentDis: If you look up at what Jordan_U said, it seems like Feisty may be doing something similar to what you just described.
[07:24] <toulouse> SilentDis: it said partitioned successfully! yay, you are a pimp, you do know that right?
[07:24] <mneptok> Bruco16: most Unix (-like) servers have no GUI environmont
[07:24] <SilentDis> Tonren, I just did, that's awesome :)
[07:24] <mneptok> Qubert: log out, back in, check your top GNOME panel
[07:24] <Qubert> okies
[07:24] <Jordan_U> Tonren: They also have binary Nvidia / ATI drivers installed by default, and compiz to boot :)
[07:24] <Qubert> no way to refresh panel?
[07:24] <Qubert> brb
[07:24] <SilentDis> toulouse, I prefer diva, but thanks :)
[07:24] <Tonren> Listening to my friend ask these questions reminds me how far Ubuntu really still has to go before it's truly user friendly.
[07:25] <Tonren> Jordan_U: I don't know if I believe you... hehe
[07:25] <domas> love it, small neat ubuntu box, 100% idle, load: 2.00
[07:25] <domas> i/o fubar'ed
[07:25] <domas> nothing in dmesg
[07:25] <mneptok> Tonren: what questions?
[07:25] <MaTT_Ubuntu> MEtalcore?
[07:25] <m3talc0re> yeah
[07:25] <SilentDis> Tonren, ubuntu is about this close though: | | :)
[07:25] <m3talc0re> just thinking about how much this sucks
[07:25] <MaTT_Ubuntu> create a folder called "mount" in your "Home" folder.
[07:26] <n2diy> domas: 100% idle?
[07:26] <m3talc0re> it wont let me
[07:26] <Qubert> okies lesse
[07:26] <MaTT_Ubuntu> wtf
[07:26] <MaTT_Ubuntu> why not?
[07:26] <m3talc0re> create folder is grayed out
[07:26] <domas> n2diy: nothing running, yes.
[07:26] <MaTT_Ubuntu> ok
[07:26] <domas> cause I/O has blocked
[07:26] <Tonren> mneptok: How to get WMAs playing in RhythmBox, and to get his wireless running
[07:26] <MaTT_Ubuntu> then acess a folder
[07:26] <mneptok> Tonren: and "user friendly" and "mouth breathing idiot that thinks all computers should behave like Windows friendly" are not the same
[07:26] <MaTT_Ubuntu> and create a folder called "mouint"
[07:26] <MaTT_Ubuntu> mount
[07:26] <Qubert> k mneptok what exactly was that supposed to do?
[07:26] <MaTT_Ubuntu> just create it
[07:26] <Qubert> because I'm no further along lol
[07:26] <domas> n2diy: just a weird kernel bug
[07:26] <n2diy> domas: on this box you are talking on?
[07:26] <m3talc0re> okay
[07:26] <m3talc0re> it's made
[07:26] <MaTT_Ubuntu> then
[07:26] <MaTT_Ubuntu> just type
[07:26] <domas> n2diy: yes.
[07:26] <Tonren> mneptok: Please do not offend my friend.  He's extremely intelligent, though not too skilled with computers, and I consider him the ideal "non-techie" computer user.
[07:26] <Bruco16> mneptok: so my server can't run on just tty2 and my graphServ on tty1? >>it's a totaly new kernel??
[07:27] <n2diy> domas: rounding errors?
[07:27] <SilentDis> Tonren, i did just 'sell' someone on ubuntu by showing off beryl to 'em though.  got him on Y! right now helping him finish setup lol
[07:27] <MaTT_Ubuntu> ntfs-3g /dev/hda1/ and the adress of this folder.
[07:27] <Jordan_U> Tonren: Rythmbox uses gstreamer so I don't know if it is possible :(
[07:27] <mneptok> Qubert: you should have an icon in the top GNOME panel that allows you to select wireless networks
[07:27] <domas> n2diy: nope, just jfs broken at new kernels
[07:27] <Qubert> well there's none to select
[07:27] <MaTT_Ubuntu> create it at the side of that "NTFSMOUNTER" Folder
[07:27] <Qubert> hence the issue
[07:27] <MaTT_Ubuntu> then ull do it like this:
[07:27] <domas> of course, I didn't try to reproduce with other filesystems, but still..
[07:27] <Tonren> SilentDis: Sweet.  I still can't get Beryl or Compiz running on my laptop.  It has shitty ATI Radeon XPress Half-Assed Bullshit graphics.
[07:27] <MaTT_Ubuntu> # ntfs-3g /dev/hda1/ ~/mount
[07:27] <m3talc0re> will will this try to accomplish?
[07:27] <MaTT_Ubuntu> roger?
[07:27] <MaTT_Ubuntu> try it
[07:27] <m3talc0re> copy my partition into here?
[07:28] <MaTT_Ubuntu> yes i think
[07:28] <CzarAlex> where is the file that i can add bash commands to that are run on start up? had something to do with rc or rc.0 i think..
[07:28] <domas> n2diy: unkillable processes, non-rebooting system, failing gdb. all known symptoms. ;-)
[07:28] <m3talc0re> i can't do that
[07:28] <SilentDis> Tonren, ouch :(  ati is hell on wheels for windows, but when it comes to linux... not so much.  heh
[07:28] <m3talc0re> this partition isn't big enough
[07:28] <mneptok> Tonren: the first thing i would tell your friend is that Linux IS NOT Windows. it's not harder, just different.
[07:28] <MaTT_Ubuntu> it wont do that
[07:28] <MaTT_Ubuntu> just do what i said
[07:28] <MaTT_Ubuntu> and ull se
[07:28] <m3talc0re> aight
[07:28] <Tonren> mneptok: He isn't complaining or saying it's impossible or anything.  He just asked.  How could he know where to start?
[07:28] <m3talc0re> you said create the folder at the side of ntfsmounter
[07:28] <n2diy> domas: roger that, if my box was 100% idle I would think it was dead. :)
[07:28] <m3talc0re> you mean inside the folder?
[07:28] <MaTT_Ubuntu> y
[07:29] <MaTT_Ubuntu> no
[07:29] <m3talc0re> in the same directory then?
[07:29] <MaTT_Ubuntu> yep
[07:29] <domas> n2diy: same here.
[07:29] <m3talc0re> aight
[07:29] <Jordan_U> Tonren: help.ubuntu.com is a good place to start learning
[07:29] <Bruco16> mneptok: what about another entry to "my new server"?
[07:29] <Bruco16> (in grub)
[07:29] <mneptok> Tonren: IRC, forums, mailing lists, commorcial support from Canonical ...
[07:29] <crazy_bus> I've got 60mp3s which I wan't to burn on a CD to be able to play on a mp3 cd player.  Does anyone know of a bulk renaming tool to rename them to play in the order I want?
[07:29] <domas> n2diy: it is dead. as in filesystem dead
[07:29] <Bruco16> the best choice huh? ^^
[07:29] <n2diy> domas: but then again, how would it know it was idle? :)
[07:30] <MaTT_Ubuntu> name it "mount", and do this: # sudo ntfs-3g /dev/hda1/ ~/mount
[07:30] <SilentDis> not trying to be rude here, but this is kinda messing up my eyes.  got coloring set to highlight stuff that doesn't begin with people's names:
[07:30] <SilentDis> !who
[07:30] <ubotu> As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[07:30] <domas> n2diy: hence the funny side of partial crashes - you can do other stuff on the box, just not i/o intensive ops
[07:30] <mneptok> Tonren: i use only Linux. how do i get zsh (my favorite shell) working in Windows? as a new user, where would i start?
[07:30] <Cam-> is /usr/share/dict meant to be empty even with the dict packages?
[07:30] <domas> n2diy: I can log into it, I can't sync data onto disk ;-)
[07:30] <Tonren> Jordan_U: mneptok: I know about those places - I'm linking him to them now.
[07:30] <m3talc0re> sudo ntfs-3g /dev/hda1/home/m3talc0re/mount?
[07:30] <SilentDis> mneptok, hmm... doesn't cygwin have something sorta like that?  lol
[07:30] <n2diy> domas: but the cpu doesn' idle, hopefully?
[07:31] <Tonren> mneptok: Regarding zsh, I haven't the foggiest.
[07:31] <domas> it idles
[07:31] <MaTT_Ubuntu> no
[07:31] <Tonren> mneptok: Probably a Google search.
[07:31] <MaTT_Ubuntu> just type exactly like this:
[07:31] <Jordan_U> mneptok: Cygwin might have it
[07:31] <mneptok> Tonren: that question in Windows world is no less difficult than is "how do i play WMA in Ubuntu?" ;)
[07:31] <domas> n2diy: you can't run database server without i/o, can you? :)
[07:31] <Tonren> mneptok: Look, you're right, but the fact is that Linux IS the underdog here, and it has to deal with that.  The community has to deal with that.
[07:31] <MaTT_Ubuntu> sudo<space>mount-3g<space>/dev/hda1/<space>~/mount
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[07:31] <SilentDis> domas, sure you can... it just doesn't do much lmao
[07:31] <MaTT_Ubuntu> theres an "~" type that "~"
[07:31] <Pie-rate> How can I reset ALL my sound configuration files to their defaults?
[07:32] <CzarAlex> where is the file that i can add bash commands to that are run on start up? had something to do with rc or rc.0 i think..
[07:32] <Tonren> mneptok: It's not fair, and it doesn't make sense, but that's our lot.  :\
[07:32] <n2diy> domas: heck if I know, certainly you can't do it without a cpu.
[07:32] <mneptok> see? "go install Cygwin and the compononts you need, then find a zsh port, then set up the env variables...."
[07:32] <domas> n2diy: :-) you could use pidgeons!
[07:32] <domas> but for that you still need i/o ;-)
[07:33] <mneptok> "i just use aptitude in Ubuntu! why is Windows *so hard*!? not very user friendly, this Windows...." ;)
[07:33] <SilentDis> mneptok, Tonren, i think the main thing is the idea of using one OSs 'native' format (be it media/shell/etc) on another OS.  that's ALWAYS gonna take a bit of work.
[07:33] <Jordan_U> Pie-rate: sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-* should get most of them
[07:33] <domas> the question about ubuntu: how do I downgrade a kernel, if it lower-versions don't seem to exist as packages? :-)
[07:33] <Tonren> SilentDis: Right.  The trouble is, almost EVERYTHING is Windows native right now.  XD
[07:33] <m3talc0re> okay
[07:33] <mneptok> SilentDis: agreed. and that workload should not be blamed on the OS, imo.
[07:34] <n2diy> domas: and the pidgeons wouldn't report their usage.
[07:34] <m3talc0re> i had /dev/hda1/ and it said the directory didn't exist
[07:34] <m3talc0re> so i removed that / after hda1
[07:34] <domas> shit, libc linked against 2.6.17
[07:34] <Qubert> mneptok, did you get PM? I messaged you cause chat going to fast for me to keep track lol
[07:34] <m3talc0re> then i get the mount is denied crap again
[07:34] <domas> I guess it wouldn't work too well with older kernels
[07:34] <Tonren> mneptok: SilentDis: At least 70% (and thats being generous) of all problems people have with Linux aren't the OS's fault.  Still, it's a moot point.
[07:34] <MaTT_Ubuntu> lol
[07:34] <MaTT_Ubuntu> wait a mom
[07:34] <m3talc0re> sudo ntfs-3g /dev/hda1 ~/mount
[07:34] <domas> s/linked/built
[07:34] <MaTT_Ubuntu> allright
[07:34] <MaTT_Ubuntu> wait a mom
[07:34] <m3talc0re> k
[07:35] <SilentDis> Tonren, mneptok i'm in agreement with both of you.  takes effort and time to change the minds of people to get them to stop using such things.  look at the current row going on over in GB about the format they post their HoC vid logs and such in.
[07:35] <Tenri1> can I safely uninstall the Ubuntu desktop with the intention of reinstalling it?
[07:35] <Jordan_U> Tenri1: Yes
[07:36] <Jordan_U> !ubuntu-desktop
[07:36] <ubotu> k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[07:36] <Tenri1> can I reinstall it easily?
[07:36] <Jordan_U> Tenri1: Yes
[07:36] <MaTT_Ubuntu> sudo ntfs-3g /dev/hda1 ~/mount
[07:36] <MaTT_Ubuntu> do that agian
[07:36] <Qubert> oh hay I also have question regarding that ubuntu-desktop thing
[07:36] <MaTT_Ubuntu> and paste the error
[07:36] <SilentDis> Tenril, sure, sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[07:36] <n2diy> Tenri1:  do you know how to play with the CLI?
[07:36] <Qubert> what exactly does that end up removing?
[07:37] <Jordan_U> Qubert: If that is all you remove, basically nothing
[07:37] <Qubert> because I want to obliterate evolution if that seems feasible, and it wants to remove that too, so I'm scared lol
[07:37] <m3talc0re> Failed to mount '/dev/hda1': Operation not supported
[07:37] <m3talc0re> Mount is denied because NTFS is unclean. Choose one of these actions:
[07:37] <m3talc0re> then those same options
[07:37] <MaTT_Ubuntu> yeah
[07:37] <MaTT_Ubuntu> so
[07:37] <MaTT_Ubuntu> ull need to
[07:37] <MaTT_Ubuntu> go back on WinXP and defrag the disk. and then clean the this
[07:37] <MaTT_Ubuntu> the disk
[07:38] <m3talc0re> scandisk?
[07:38] <SilentDis> Qubert, it's fine then.  evolution is part of the ubuntu-desktop metapackage.  removing it will remove that too, as you are no longer running the 'official' ubuntu-desktop metapackage... but it's not going to cause harm :)
[07:38] <MaTT_Ubuntu> yeah
[07:38] <Spaghetti_Knife> Hi. I'm trying to download stuff over xchat, and whenever I do that, the program sarts to slow down my download until the connection breaks.
[07:38] <MaTT_Ubuntu> scandisk, and disk defragment
[07:38] <m3talc0re> i just did that :/
[07:38] <MaTT_Ubuntu> both
[07:38] <Jordan_U> m3talc0re: You should chdisk it in windows
[07:38] <MaTT_Ubuntu> yep, chdisk, thats the world
[07:38] <Spaghetti_Knife> The people on #xchat say that it isn't xchat's fault, so it must be Ubuntu's.
[07:38] <MaTT_Ubuntu> word
[07:38] <m3talc0re> i can't get into windows
[07:38] <odi3> Qubert: honestly, ive gotten myself into WAY too much trouble trying to remove unneeded apps. basically if you dont want to see it, just remove it from task list apps usually are small anyways
[07:38] <Spaghetti_Knife> Is there anything that's part of ubuntu that would do that?
[07:38] <MaTT_Ubuntu> oh
[07:38] <MaTT_Ubuntu> then
[07:38] <MaTT_Ubuntu> wait a minute
[07:38] <m3talc0re> i can get into safe mode, but not winxp itself :/
[07:38] <MaTT_Ubuntu> dude
[07:38] <m3talc0re> which is why i'm so desperate to get into it's files through ubuntu
[07:39] <MaTT_Ubuntu> just close the console
[07:39] <MaTT_Ubuntu> and open it up again
[07:39] <SilentDis> Qubert, odi3 brings up a great point.  just remove the pointers to it.  unless you're dying for disk space, there's no need to get rid of it totally from your machine.
[07:39] <m3talc0re> done
[07:39] <MaTT_Ubuntu> then
[07:39] <MaTT_Ubuntu> type
[07:39] <Jordan_U> Spaghetti_Knife: Any problem in any program running on Ubuntu could be Ubuntu's fault
[07:39] <MaTT_Ubuntu> ntfsfix /dev/hda1
[07:39] <MaTT_Ubuntu> lol
[07:40] <Spaghetti_Knife> Jordan_U, okay, do you have this problem with xchat?
[07:40] <m3talc0re> m3talc0re@emachine:~$ ntfsfix /dev/hda1
[07:40] <m3talc0re> bash: ntfsfix: command not found
[07:40] <Tenri1> Uh..how do I update the fontconfig version for GIMP?
[07:40] <odi3> unless you know exactly what your doing (which i definately dont) if it isnt broke dont fix it
[07:40] <linux_newbie2> I have a directory owned by root, group = root, with owner, group, and other all having at least read, why can't I as a non-root user list the directory?
[07:40] <Jordan_U> Spaghetti_Knife: I don't know, send me a file :)
[07:40] <odi3> theres plenty of broke crap to fix haha
[07:40] <Qubert> I was considering removing it more to get rid of any resident processes that it might incur
[07:40] <Qubert> but it's good to know that it won't blow things up
[07:40] <Qubert> it's safe for now
[07:40] <SilentDis> Qubert, that's easier than removing it!
[07:40] <odi3> linux_newbie use: sudo ls
[07:41] <MaTT_Ubuntu> MEtal
[07:41] <m3talc0re> yeah
[07:41] <MaTT_Ubuntu> i cant answer u why ur ntfsfix isnt working
[07:41] <Tenri1> except that it is broken.
[07:41] <m3talc0re> crap
[07:41] <MaTT_Ubuntu> Somebody knows why his NTFSFIX COMMAND isnt working?
[07:41] <m3talc0re> i'm so screwed
[07:41] <Tenri1> I have to update the fontconfig for GIMP to work
[07:41] <Tenri1> apparently
[07:41] <linux_newbie2> odi3: yes, I know I can do it that way, I was just trying to figure out why I couldn't do it normally
[07:41] <SilentDis> Qubert, you can just disable the startup stuff for the session, and it won't bother you anymore.  plus, if you do find you want it (it's got a nice calendar function, for example) it's still there to fall back on
[07:42] <m3talc0re> i wonder why windows will boot into safe mode but not regular windows...
[07:42] <Tenri1> I uninstalled and re-installed GIMP and it still doesn't work
[07:42] <Qubert> yeah, on second thought I forgot totally I was wanting to make use of the calendar
[07:42] <Qubert> I'm sure that's why I stopped looking into it lol
[07:42] <Qubert> hahah, totally forgot I decided to keep it after all earlier today
[07:43] <linux_newbie2> m3talc0re: did you install new hardware or drivers?
[07:43] <SilentDis> m3talc0re, it's literally been almost a half a year since I last booted my windows xp partition.  this is probably not the best place to ask for help with windows related issues ;)
[07:43] <m3talc0re> nope
[07:43] <m3talc0re> all i did was cleaned my heatsinks for my cpu and gpu
[07:43] <tulga> I need samba with mysql backend on ubuntu guide. where is good guide?
[07:43] <m3talc0re> just took the fans off and removed the dust caked on
[07:43] <m3talc0re> started back up and now it doesn't work
[07:43] <MaTT_Ubuntu> metal
[07:43] <Tenri1> well, that sucks.
[07:43] <MaTT_Ubuntu> just got ur solution
[07:44] <linux_newbie2> m3talc0re: is it overheating?
[07:44] <m3talc0re> nope
[07:44] <n2diy> SilentDis: you contribute here, on a regular basis, go for it.
[07:44] <Qubert> haha m3talc0re
[07:44] <m3talc0re> it gets to the loading windows screen, finishes loading then goes black and after a little bit, restarts
[07:44] <Qubert> that's the opposite of what happens to me
[07:44] <SilentDis> n2diy, eh?
[07:44] <MaTT_Ubuntu> NTFS Download this
[07:44] <MaTT_Ubuntu> http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-ntfs/linux-ntfs_1.13.1.orig.tar.gz
[07:44] <Qubert> mine stops turning on, I dedustify it, and it works again
[07:44] <Qubert> ...
[07:44] <Qubert> also hahah corrupt os dude
[07:44] <MaTT_Ubuntu> Metalcore, download this: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-ntfs/linux-ntfs_1.13.1.orig.tar.gz
[07:44] <Qubert> my laptop was doing that a while back
[07:45] <linux_newbie2> let me rephrase, how would I create a directory that anyone can read?
[07:45] <Qubert> no way to recover that I could find except fresh install
[07:45] <MaTT_Ubuntu> do that configure, make and make install thing
[07:45] <Qubert> file permissions 777
[07:45] <MaTT_Ubuntu> and use ntfsfix
[07:45] <MaTT_Ubuntu> ok?
[07:45] <Qubert> or
[07:45] <Qubert> that's read/write I suppose lol
[07:45] <n2diy> SilentDis: ask your winder question.
[07:45] <Tenri1> uh..would anyone like to help me out?
[07:45] <linux_newbie2> Qubert: just read, not write
[07:45] <Qubert> 755
[07:45] <Pie-rate> "(10:33:33 PM) Jordan_U: Pie-rate: sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-* should get most of them"
[07:45] <Pie-rate> Package `alsa-*' is not installed and no info is available.
[07:45] <Qubert> I think...
[07:45] <lun> I've got how to compile the new kernels, thanks to those helped, this is the step by step link :http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu
[07:45] <SilentDis> n2diy, eh?  i was mentioning to m3talc0re that this place is not the best place for a windows-related question is all :)
[07:45] <Qubert> yeah that sounds right, takes off the 2 flag, which is write
[07:45] <m3talc0re> eh, gimme a minute, lol
[07:46] <m3talc0re> gotta remember it all
[07:46] <MaTT_Ubuntu> metal
[07:46] <MaTT_Ubuntu> did u see my message?
[07:46] <Jordan_U> Pie-rate: sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base   alsa-oss    alsa-utils
[07:46] <m3talc0re> yeah
[07:46] <MaTT_Ubuntu> k
[07:46] <n2diy> SilentDis: 10-4
[07:46] <linux_newbie2> Qubert: currently I have a directory that is drwxrwxr-- and I can't list it's contents
[07:46] <Tenri1> Someone let me know when you are ready to help me out.  I'll just sit here quietly until then.
[07:46] <Qubert> hmmm
[07:46] <MaTT_Ubuntu> After u run NTFSFIX, run that ntfs-3g /dev/hda1 ~/mount      again
[07:46] <Qubert> no permission?
[07:46] <Qubert> can you read it as root?
[07:47] <odi3> tenril just post your question, someone may be able to answer
[07:47] <MaTT_Ubuntu> N2diy, guess i learned something this night :p
[07:47] <SilentDis> Tenri1, i didn't see your question... I thought I had sent you a couple messages though... what's wrong, waht did I miss?
[07:47] <Tenri1> I've posted my question several times
[07:47] <deepbluegene> hello. i just installed nedit from synaptic but when i invoke nedit it gives me following error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1407/
[07:47] <Tenri1> GIMP won't work
[07:47] <linux_newbie2> Qubert: yes, I can sudo and read it
[07:47] <Qubert> alright, so who's the owner?
[07:48] <kyncani> m3talc0re: there is this ntfs-3g thing that's supposed to be better at handling ntfs partitions, you could try it to rescue your data from this ntfs partition
[07:48] <linux_newbie2> Qubert: root is owner, root is group
[07:48] <Qubert> I find chown nobody:nobody for shared folders helps
[07:48] <Tenri1> It says I have an older version of the fontconfig file
[07:48] <SilentDis> !elaborate | Tenri1
[07:48] <ubotu> Tenri1: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[07:48] <n2diy> MaTT_Ubuntu:  any night you learn something, is a good night, and  I'm saying the same thing here.
[07:48] <Qubert> assuming you don't let others write stuff in it, that might be feasible
[07:48] <linux_newbie2> Qubert: ok
[07:48] <MaTT_Ubuntu> Kyncani, i teached him how to instal it already, now he needs the ntfsfix thing
[07:48] <kyncani> ok
[07:48] <Qubert> because root owned files and folders tend to still not be readable even with proper file permissions
[07:48] <SilentDis> Tenri1, what's the exact error you're getting?
[07:48] <Qubert> at least from what I've found
[07:49] <MaTT_Ubuntu> Heh, okay guys im g2g
[07:49] <linux_newbie2> ohhh
[07:49] <MaTT_Ubuntu> Metal good luck :p U can do it
[07:49] <m3talc0re> nooo
[07:49] <m3talc0re> don't leave yet, lol
[07:49] <m3talc0re> :/
[07:49] <Tenri1> SilentDis: It says The Fontconfig version being used is too old!
[07:49] <Tenri1> The GIMP requires Fontconfig version 2.2.0 or later.
[07:49] <Tenri1> The Fontconfig version loaded by The GIMP is 2.1.0.
[07:49] <Tenri1> This may be caused by another instance of libfontconfig.so.1
[07:49] <Tenri1> being installed in the system, probably in /usr/X11R6/lib.
[07:49] <Tenri1> Please correct the situation or report it to someone who can.
[07:49] <Tenri1> sorry
[07:49] <Tenri1> flooding
[07:49] <Jordan_U> Tenri1: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gimp gimp-data gimp-python
[07:49] <SilentDis> !pastebin | Tenri1
[07:49] <ubotu> Tenri1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:49] <n2diy> MaTT_Ubuntu:  If you really want to learn something, try teaching them something you alread _know_!
[07:50] <deepbluegene> hello. i just installed nedit from synaptic but when i invoke nedit it gives me following error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1407/
[07:50] <Qubert> heh linux_newbie2 did that work?
[07:50] <m3talc0re> i think i'm gonna cry
[07:50] <Tenri1> Jordan_YOU: nada
[07:50] <n2diy> them/someone*
[07:50] <m3talc0re> Volume is corrupt. You should run chkdsk.
[07:51] <Qubert> lol m3talc0re owned
[07:51] <m3talc0re> owned is an understatement
[07:51] <Qubert> sorry to say, but the amount of effort you'd have to put in to fix it, it's faster to just nuke and reinstall
[07:51] <SilentDis> !nedit
[07:51] <ubotu> nedit: A powerful, customizable, Motif based text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:5.5-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 719 kB, installed size 1692 kB
[07:51] <m3talc0re> i can't
[07:51] <Tenri1> Jordan_YOU: nada
[07:51] <Qubert> of course, get the hd to another computer to recover data if you can
[07:51] <Tenri1> man!
[07:51] <m3talc0re> i have to save the data that's on there
[07:51] <Tenri1> My autocomplete won't let my type 'u'
[07:52] <linux_newbie2> Qubert: I have a nobody user, but I don't have a nobody group
[07:52] <Tenri1> jordan_u : nada
[07:52] <SilentDis> Tenri1, did you do that command that Jordan_U mentioned?
[07:52] <Tenri1> yeah
[07:52] <Pulim> Someone can help me with a VMWare player problem?
[07:52] <Tenri1> SilentDis: didn't help
[07:52] <SilentDis> Tenri1, researching... one moment...
[07:53] <LucianSolaris> futurama is so freakin' awsome when stoned!!
[07:53] <linux_newbie2> Qubert: I think I will just set the owner and group to me and then test it with a different user account to make sure it works.  Thanks for the help! :)
[07:53] <Jordan_U>  Tenri1: just in case, try running: sudo apt-get -f install
[07:53] <Pulim> the VMWare player dont recognize my pen drive.. what can I do to fix it
[07:53] <Pulim> ?
[07:53] <Qubert> oh hay linux_newbie2
[07:53] <Qubert> groupadd nobody
[07:53] <Qubert> or something
[07:53] <SilentDis> LucianSolaris, head over to #ubuntu-offtopic and type @fry ;)
[07:53] <deepbluegene> ubotu: please help me with nedit error
[07:53] <Qubert> or yeah just set it to a regular user even maybe
[07:54] <Tenri1> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:54] <n2diy> LucianSolaris: what is futurama? Something like kstars?
[07:54] <wayne_> My opengl installation seems to be broken. glxinfo produces a core dump. I am running the nv driver due to problems with nvidia driver
[07:54] <LucianSolaris> what does it do?
[07:54] <Tenri1> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:54] <odi3> metalcore, do you have like a usb hard drive?
[07:54] <LucianSolaris> n2diy it was a fox show, like the simpsons http://cartoons.peekvid.com/s2224/
[07:54] <n2diy> LucianSolaris: it is a planetarium(sp)
[07:55] <LucianSolaris> no
[07:55] <LucianSolaris> it's a show
[07:55] <Jordan_U> Tenri1: Quit any other install programs
[07:55] <n2diy> LucianSolaris: ah, play, kstars is real, and now.
[07:55] <Tenri1> Jordan_U worked, thanks
[07:55] <Tenri1> now what?
[07:56] <noobcook> how do i disable the ubuntu firewlal?
[07:56] <LucianSolaris> dood, no fglrx drivers for my ati mobility (screw ati!)
[07:56] <Jordan_U> !firestarter | noobcook
[07:56] <ubotu> noobcook: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[07:56] <Tenri1> LucianSolaris: which mobility do you have? 1300?
[07:56] <SilentDis> Tenri1, ok, from what I can tell, that error is caused by 2 versions and copies of libfontconfig installed... let me check something...
[07:56] <LucianSolaris> 9000/9100
[07:56] <LucianSolaris> IGP
[07:57] <LucianSolaris> it's an HP Pavilion zv5000t
[07:57] <burepe> !azureus
[07:57] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[07:57] <Tenri1> LucianSolaris: ah.
[07:57] <Goat_Spirit> Holy crap, that's alot of people here.
[07:57] <LucianSolaris> hey, is there softcore porn in hdr?
[07:57] <SilentDis> Tenri1, try this:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig
[07:57] <Goat_Spirit> @ubotu, Azureus is very good.
[07:57] <n2diy> LucianSolaris: what is hdr?
[07:57] <Kosa> hello
[07:57] <Goat_Spirit> Hey!
[07:58] <LucianSolaris> n2diy: high dynamic something
[07:58] <Kosa> i'm newbe in ubuntu
[07:58] <LucianSolaris> google hdr
[07:58] <Jordan_U> LucianSolaris: High dynamic range, and #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:58] <Kosa> and i can help
[07:58] <LucianSolaris> high dynamic range
[07:58] <Goat_Spirit> Hey kosa, greetings!
[07:58] <n2diy> hi  | kosa
[07:58] <Kosa> hi
[07:58] <burepe> will the azureus how to that the bot points me to work with edgy? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[07:58] <Kosa> you know what is livebox?
[07:59] <Goat_Spirit> This is my first ever time on IRC.
[07:59] <SilentDis> Tenri1, did that fix it?
[07:59] <Tenri1> SilentDis: The command ran smoothly, but unless I have to restart, then no.
[07:59] <Qubert> good for you
[07:59] <Qubert> lol
[07:59] <Goat_Spirit> :)
[07:59] <smartman> hey guys i'm using mandriva 2007  and i want to use ubuntu but i'm afrid of many things
[07:59] <Qubert> also you sir must be condemned for using azureus
[07:59] <Kosa> i can't install the livebox
[07:59] <Goat_Spirit> I love Azureus.
[07:59] <smartman> some of thim my hardeware
[07:59] <Kosa> WOFI
[07:59] <burepe> Qubert: why is that?
[07:59] <Qubert> java = ;_;
[07:59] <odi3> tendril try sudo apt-get update
[07:59] <Qubert> I dunno
[07:59] <Kosa> WIFI&
[07:59] <n2diy> Goat_Spirit: welcome
[07:59] <Jordan_U> burepe: Yes
[08:00] <odi3> sometimes fixes junk
[08:00] <Goat_Spirit> n2diy: Thanks!
[08:00] <SilentDis> Tenri1, i'm not sure what else it could be at this point.  has gimp ever worked for you, or was it broken 'out of the box'?
[08:00] <Kosa> anybody help me?
[08:00] <Jordan_U> burepe: Yes, that guide will work in Edgy
[08:00] <burepe> Jordan_U: thanks
[08:00] <Tenri1> SilentDis: It worked the on time I ran it
[08:00] <n2diy> Goat_Spirit: nada
[08:00] <Tenri1> After that it was broken
[08:00] <Kosa> vte
[08:00] <Kosa> bye
[08:00] <Kosa> L/
[08:00] <Kosa> :/
[08:01] <SilentDis> Tenri1, have you added/changed anything since then?  I'm trying to track down what else might've changed the font config, or at least the settings it's looking for.
[08:01] <odi3> if you have two versions of scripts, can you blacklist one?
[08:01] <Tenri1> SilentDis: Not that I know of.
[08:01] <Tenri1> Silent Dis: Come to think of it, I may have installed a Windows-fonts package
[08:02] <Tenri1> like, Windows fonts for Ubunty
[08:02] <Tenri1> *Ubuntu
[08:02] <SilentDis> Tenri1, i have the mscorefonts installed myself, and gimp still works... but that might be something that's 'leading' us in the right direction (a fubar during that install, as example)
[08:02] <n2diy> Goat_Spirit: enju?
[08:03] <Maric> allo all
[08:03] <Tenri1> SilentDis: Under what section of Synaptic Package Manager would I find it?
[08:04] <SilentDis> Tenri1, try a quick sudo aptitude install msttcorefonts
[08:04] <Maric> anyone want a laugh at my expense? (even I am laughing at this point)
[08:04] <odi3> whats up maric?
[08:04] <SilentDis> Maric, shaddenfreud (sp?) is the only true form of humor :D  lol
[08:05] <Tenri1> SilentDis: Done.
[08:05] <n2diy> Maric: no, but maybe? Whatz up
[08:05] <SilentDis> Tenri1, did it run?
[08:05] <SilentDis> Tenri1, er, does Gimp run now, i should say
[08:05] <Tenri1> SilentDis: The command ran.  GIMP not so much.
[08:05] <Maric> well my problem revolves arround my kernel compile.  the kicker is the issue was caused by the compile and install worked perfectly
[08:06] <Tenri1> SilentDis: same error
[08:06] <n2diy> Maric: and?
[08:06] <Maric> er working perfectly I mean
[08:06] <mvfeinstein> Can anyone here tell me if there is a way i can set up a terminal profile to automatically log into a ssh server without prompting for the password?
[08:06] <Maric> and now my nvidia drivers wont compile/install and x is broken
[08:07] <Tenri1> SilentDis: Are you sure I don't have to restart?
[08:07] <SilentDis> mvfeinstein, i believe ssh REQUIRES a password prompt.
[08:07] <n2diy> Maric: ah, did you upgrade? To edgy?
[08:07] <Maric> I installed edgy from cd
[08:07] <Maric> I need a custom kernel to get my wireless card to work
[08:07] <SilentDis> Tenri1, that was the only and last thing I've thought of at this point.  I know there were some recent pushes for various bugfixes that required a reboot.  I was going to ask when your last was is all
[08:08] <vik> how easy/painful is it to get a dual-head setup working with an onboard plus a PCI graphics card?
[08:08] <odi3> maric, what problems are you having with wireless card?
[08:08] <Tenri1> SilentDis: Few hours ago.
[08:08] <odi3> lately, ive turned into the wireless guru:)
[08:08] <mvfeinstein> SilentDis is there any way around that? Can I do a pause and then have the system enter the password?
[08:08] <n2diy> Maric: ah, so your system worked perfetcly, and then you installed edgy?
[08:08] <Maric> does not work, need kernel that is not generic kernel according to ubuntu community walk through for my particular card
[08:09] <odi3> maric, what card do you have?
[08:09] <SilentDis> mvfeinstein, the very nature of ssh doesn't allow it.  it's supposed to be a SECURE shell after all, and that means no scripted entry/access (as that's EXCEPTIONALLY easy to exploit and break security, obviously)
[08:09] <Maric> no I installed edgy and every thing was fine and I wanted to learn how wireless +ubuntu worked
[08:09] <Dralid> how do I mount a drive such that I do not need sudo every time I want to work with a file in that drive?
[08:09] <Maric> the card is a DWL-520 rev E1
[08:10] <mvfeinstein> SilentDis That sucks.... oh well thanks anyway
[08:10] <SilentDis> Tenri1, ahh, not a member of the "ohhh my uptime is ubar" group, *giggle*
[08:10] <vik> mvfeinstein: if you set up keys you can do just that
[08:10] <odi3> dralid you need to make an entry into /etc/fstab
[08:10] <SilentDis> mvfeinstein, sorry.  what are you trying to accomplish anyway?  there's usually a better way, is all :)
[08:10] <Tenri1> SilentDis: Eh?
[08:10] <vik> mvfeinstein: see ssh-keygen
[08:10] <odi3> maric have you already tried using ndiswrapper?
[08:10] <mvfeinstein> vik Not sure how to set up keys, and I dont have that much access to the server
[08:10] <elyon> Hey guys.  After a week of trying other distros, I've decided to return to Ubuntu (albeit this time in Dapper instead of Edgy).  But I have a quick question. Is EasyUbuntu really helpful?
[08:11] <Maric> according to the walk through I need a different kernel than generic, and I decided to make a 686 version and get it up and running
[08:11] <SilentDis> Tenri1, some of us collect uptime and hold it as a badge :)  my bsd server box hasn't had a restart in nearly 4 months, as example.  lol
[08:11] <Tenri1> SilentDis: I'm on a laptop.  I kind of end up restarting relatively frequently as I have to carry it around from place to place
[08:11] <Tenri1> ah
[08:11] <Maric> yes I tried to use ndiswrapper - nogo and the how to has a linux native way to go for it
[08:11] <mvfeinstein> SilentDis I am doing some dev work for a company that wants me to do my work over ssh and the way I am doing it right now I have to log in 20+ times a day so I am just trying to figure out if I can set up some shortcut that will launch a terminal that is already loged in
[08:11] <odi3> o ok sorry to hear that
[08:11] <fokuslee> ! ubuntu certification
[08:12] <fokuslee> !ubuntu certification
[08:12] <Maric> but mainly I just want my nvidia glx to work so I can go on from there
[08:12] <elyon> !easyubuntu
[08:12] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[08:12] <h3xis> mvfeinstein, use putty.
[08:12] <n2diy> SilentDis: your a light weight, my buddiies measure there up time in years, my max is a 172 days.
[08:12] <h3xis> mvfeinstein, nevermind, i was thinking of something else :/
[08:12] <vik> mvfeinstein: see ssh-keygen
[08:12] <Tenri1> I'll be back, guys.  I'ma see if restarting helps.
[08:13] <SilentDis> Tenri1, the only 2 other things I can think of are a reconfigure of gimp (sudo dpkg-reconfigure gimp) and a reboot.  after that, I'm out of ideas, sorry :(
[08:13] <gar-> cafuego_: fix :)
[08:13] <Tenri1> SilentDis: Ok, thanks
[08:13] <Maric> the kernel I got was from the ubuntu Git repos and it compiled as 2.6.20-686
[08:13] <SilentDis> n2diy, lol i know I know.  the only reason I brought it down was simply to see how long it took to come back up too... *sigh*
[08:13] <odi3> i dont know anything about compiling kernels
[08:14] <Maric> the nvidia setup does not work any ideas?
[08:14] <Maric> no the kernel part is ok - thats the problem
[08:14] <Maric> all of the 2.6.20 searches I have done turn up fiesty repos
[08:14] <n2diy> SilentDis: I only go down for thunderstorms.
[08:15] <vik> mvfeinstein: if you can create ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the remote machine, you can do what you need - run ssh-keygen on your local box, and paste the generated public key in that file
[08:15] <SilentDis> mvfeinstein, I usually just type ssh username@server, and my password, then leave the term up on another desktop :)
[08:15] <noobcook> whats the traceroute program in the buntu deps?
[08:16] <Maric> is there a way I can configure x to use the basic vesa stuff untill I fix the nvidia?
[08:16] <SilentDis> noobcook, traceroute.  you'll have to install it.  sudo aptitude install traceroute
[08:16] <Maric> sup noob?
[08:16] <SilentDis> noobcook, or, you can go System > Administration > Network Tools, and use a gui
[08:17] <noobcook> ty
[08:17] <odi3> is there any disadvantages of using ndiswrapper?
[08:18] <SilentDis> noobcook, if you're looking for eyecandy, there's always xt :)
[08:18] <Maric> odi3: in some cases not all of a cards functions/capabilities will work that way
[08:18] <noobcook> all i need to find is why my router has just recently started filtering pings
[08:18] <fokuslee> ! xt
[08:18] <ubotu> xt: A graphical traceroute. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1-8 (edgy), package size 917 kB, installed size 1144 kB
[08:18] <fokuslee> !xt
[08:19] <Maric> odi3: also sometimes there can be errors caused either by bad code in the windows part or by the odd translation error to/from linux
[08:19] <odi3> so its better to not use it?
[08:19] <odi3> if possible?
[08:19] <SilentDis> bed time for me.  g'night all
[08:19] <fokuslee> nite nite
[08:19] <Tenri1> Is there any way to open the filesystem navigator from the Terminal under root?
[08:19] <jedrick> i need help.. how to enable repo?
[08:19] <Maric> odi3: also for some programs that access the card ndiswrapper will not work atall
[08:20] <fokuslee> jedrick, its in snyaptic click on resources
[08:20] <SilentDis> Tenri1, fair warning, you can HOSE your system... gksudo nautilus
[08:20] <fokuslee> jedrick:  then u can check the oes u want
[08:20] <jedrick> fokuslee, ok thnx i'll try
[08:20] <SilentDis> now, g'night :)
[08:20] <Flannel> !repositories | jedrick
[08:20] <ubotu> jedrick: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:20] <Maric> odi3: it is not ideal, but in some cases it is the only way to use cards whos makers wont play ball with linux
[08:20] <kishan> hi every one... i have a problem with my Ktorrents it crashes when i try to start  it and says it crashed and caused singal 6 (SIGABRT)
[08:21] <Maric> odi3: it is much better to use the card nativly to linux if at all possible
[08:21] <jedrick> fokuslee, i can't see the resources
[08:21] <kishan> can any one help
[08:21] <odi3> ah ok, i had my card working but thought i was having problems with shares, but ended up being smbfs problems
[08:21] <odi3> so currently using ndiswrapper, maybe ill try to switch back
[08:22] <Maric> odi3: if for no other reasons then there is security to be found in simplicity, but dont fix what ain't broke eh?
[08:22] <odi3> true
[08:22] <fokuslee> jedrick:  sorri i mean repository its under settings
[08:22] <_magez_> !64studio
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 64studio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <Maric> is there a way to reconfigure x via dpkg?
[08:23] <odi3> how can i test to see if it offers 54 mbs connecting to my NAS?
[08:23] <Flannel> Maric: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:24] <Maric> Flannel: Thank you very much
[08:24] <Maric> brb
[08:24] <elyon> Is there a reason that system updates still don't update my software to the latest version (Firefox, Xchat, etc)?  I'm running Dapper.
[08:24] <fokuslee> does anyone know about the ubuntu certification?
[08:24] <Flannel> elyon: what versions are you at?
[08:25] <Tenri1> SilentDis: under /usr/X11R6/lib where the error said the file would be, I have libfontconfic.so, libfontconfig.so.1, and libfontconfig.so.1.0
[08:25] <elyon> Flannel: Firefox is 1.5.0.9 and xchat is 0.11
[08:25] <Flannel> elyon: for firefox, for instance.  and what version are you expecting?
[08:25] <Flannel> elyon: right, expecting 2.0?
[08:25] <elyon> Flannel: Expecting 2.0 (which is what Edgy had.
[08:25] <erudified> Anyone know of a graphical interface for using FUSE?
[08:25] <Flannel> elyon: each release, the major versions of all software is frozen, only getting security/bugfixes after that.
[08:26] <Flannel> elyon: so, for instance, dapper will NEVER have anything higher than 1.5
[08:26] <elyon> Flannel: Ah.  I encountered that in Mandriva and SUSE too lol
[08:26] <elyon> Flannel: So I'd have to install them manually?  And will Edgy ever have anything higher than 2.0?
[08:26] <fokuslee> flannel yeah i always way the did that like freeze the version doesn't make sense to me
[08:27] <elyon> fokuslee: I guess its just to make sure they're compatible and stable with that release... but I think it should be an OPTION to disable that lock...
[08:27] <_magez_> ubuntus next version is faisty ?
[08:27] <Flannel> elyon: correct.  You might be able to find debs out there for them, in non-official repositories/etc, since that'll make it a lot easier on upgrading/etc than source
[08:28] <Flannel> elyon: that would do nothing but cause headaches for developers
[08:28] <Flannel> !ubuntu+1
[08:28] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[08:28] <_magez_> ok :)
[08:28] <Tenri1> _magez_: right.  Actually, it's spelled feisty.
[08:28] <elyon> Flannel: I'm still learning a lot.  So all the software updates come from whatever repositories I have setup, right?  And those repositories (by default) are specific to Dapper?
[08:29] <Naik0> Hey, iam using wine and i want to start utorrent but i want to close the term after i started the prog? How do i do that?
[08:29] <fokuslee> lol Feisty Fawn what a dangerous name probably be very feisty
[08:29] <Tenri1> SilentDis: You there?
[08:29] <Maric> back
[08:29] <Flannel> elyon: correct, if you look in your sources.list, you'll see something like this: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[08:29] <vik> what do ya reckon happens after zesty zebu gets released?
[08:29] <Flannel> elyon: the first word after the url is the 'version'
[08:29] <Maric> thank you all- that dpkg fix for x worked beautifly
[08:29] <Flannel> vik: A A
[08:29] <smartman> guys
[08:30] <elyon> Flannel: Would it be stupid to add the 'Edgy' repositories instead? ;)
[08:30] <vik> again?
[08:30] <Maric> I'll relog in a few once I get a gui irc client installed
[08:30] <_magez_> seen faisty in mininova....
[08:30] <Flannel> vik: but actually, the names are just codenames, for while under development, the 'real' name is the year.month thing, 6.06, 6.10, 7.04, etc
[08:30] <Pulim> someone can help me?
[08:30] <Maric> any recommendations for a good gui irc client?
[08:30] <Flannel> elyon: it'll... cause troubles, yes.
[08:30] <odi3> how could i test my bandwidth using ubuntu?
[08:30] <jedrick> what's the use of authentication keys?
[08:30] <erudified> I like xchat, or kvirc if you use kubuntu
[08:31] <Pulim> I cant access my pen drive with de VMWare player
[08:31] <odi3> i like the codenames:)
[08:31] <elyon> Flannel: Alright.  Well, I've still got my Edgy cd... I think I'll go for that.  although apparently its not as stable as Dapper (for ATI cards anyway)
[08:31] <fokuslee> jedrick those are pgp keys to verfiy the legitimacy of the archives
[08:31] <Pulim> plz someone help me
[08:31] <jedrick> fokuslee, ok thnx
[08:31] <erudified> elyon, ive got aiglx/compiz working really well with a radeon mobility 9000
[08:31] <Maric> well see you all and bbl
[08:31] <odi3> seeya
[08:32] <erudified> open source drivers and all, beryl just ran right out of the box actually
[08:32] <Flannel> elyon: you can always upgrade, isntead of reinstalling
[08:32] <Pulim> how could I access a USB storage with the VMWare player?
[08:32] <elyon> erudified: I enabled XGL in openSUSE and my Xserver crashed (couldn't recover without disabling xgl from the command line)
[08:32] <elyon> Flannel: How do I do that?
[08:32] <Pulim> he doesnt recognize the USB
[08:32] <Flannel> !upgrade | elyon
[08:32] <ubotu> elyon: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:32] <elyon> Flannel: Is that an option from the Edgy Install CD?
[08:32] <erudified> elyon, if you're using the OSS radeon drivers it's a lot easier to use aiglx
[08:32] <Flannel> elyon: only if you have the alternate CD
[08:32] <erudified> and it performs better, too
[08:32] <odi3> pulim mount the usb?
[08:33] <elyon> erudified: So I should not use the official ones?
[08:33] <Tenri1> w00t! fixed the GIMP problem!
[08:33] <elyon> Flannel: Is that going to be a necessary download, then?
[08:33] <erudified> Not if you have a radeon 9x00
[08:33] <elyon> erudified: lol I have a 9600
[08:33] <Tenri1> I just had to delete the extra libfontconfig filr
[08:33] <Tenri1> *file
[08:33] <erudified> Yeah, just use the OSS drivers and enable aiglx
[08:33] <Pulim> odi3.:  yes, it's already mounted.. but appers in the virtual machine with the XP "Unknown Device"
[08:33] <Flannel> elyon: if you don't have the alternate CD for edgy, just upgrade in place, via apt
[08:33] <mvfeinstein> If I have multiple gnome-terminal profiles how would I set up multiple launchers one for each profile
[08:33] <elyon> erudified: Where do I get those?
[08:33] <fokuslee> i have a problem with firefox32bit can someone help me?
[08:33] <Flannel> elyon: or, reinstall.
[08:34] <elyon> Flannel: Alright.. well, I JUST installed Dapper, so I may as well just do a clean install.
[08:34] <erudified> elyon, When I installed edgy on this laptop it automagically used the radeon driver
[08:34] <Pulim> odi3.: I'm using the Edgy as Host and using the VMWare to run the WinXP
[08:34] <Flannel> elyon: yep
[08:34] <erudified> all I had to do was enable AIGLX in xorg.conf and install beryl
[08:34] <fokuslee> i recommend the beryl from SVN
[08:35] <elyon> erudified: Well, when I had edgy installed last, it didn't recognize my card or enable acceleration.. had to figure it all out manually.
[08:35] <fokuslee> fixed my flickering cube problem
[08:35] <elyon> But today I ran across EasyUbuntu ... and it SOUNDS good.  Anyone have an opinion on that?
[08:35] <fokuslee> Easyubuntu > automatix
[08:35] <odi3> elyon its ok, same as automatix
[08:35] <Pulim> odi3.: do you have any idea?
[08:35] <odi3> bah! automatix > easybuntu
[08:35] <elyon> fokuslee: Well, I used automatix without a problem... but EU offers to install ATI drivers too.
[08:35] <Pulim> what can I do to fix this
[08:36] <n2diy> ! automatix
[08:36] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:36] <erudified> elyon, recent builds of the ati drivers just dont work well with 9x00 cards
[08:36] <odi3> you might not be mounting correctly
[08:36] <xinted> !  ubuntu-desktop
[08:36] <ubotu> k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[08:36] <erudified> I'm not sure if they ever worked well with them, actually
[08:36] <elyon> erudified: I don't know what drivers EasyUbuntu would use :)
[08:37] <tulga> I want add user only 1 line (without password prompt). is it possible?
[08:37] <elyon> erudified: Where do I find OSS drivers for ATI (sorry if you already answered... I missed it if so)
[08:37] <erudified> http://pastebin.ca/315003
[08:37] <erudified> There's my xorg.conf, the OSS drivers are installed by default
[08:37] <Pulim> odi3.: i have normal access when i use the edgy, only in the VMWare the device fails
[08:38] <erudified> if you're running on a laptop with a synaptics touchpad that should probably just work
[08:38] <odi3> pulum hmm sorry i dont know too much about vmware
[08:38] <elyon> hmm... okay.  Well I'll reinstall Edgy and pray the old problems magically don't surface.
[08:38] <erudified> actually it's configured for a USB imps/2 mouse also
[08:38] <elyon> With any luck, I'll be back in an hour ;)
[08:39] <odi3> !worksforme
[08:39] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[08:39] <mauser> how can i calculate a directory size from command line
[08:39] <erudified> du -sh
[08:40] <odi3> !automatix2
[08:40] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:41] <fokuslee> mauser du
[08:44] <linux_user400354> Here is my xorg.conf http://rafb.net/p/xqxfRd84.html I am only able to make my refresh rate to 50 mhz - 53 mhz. The specs page for my monitor says it should be 1600x1200 @ 77Hz at that resolution. I put in a Monitor section with the correct values from this specs page http://www.viewsonic.com/support/desktopdisplays/crtmonitors/graphicseries/g810/index.htm However, I still can not increase my refresh rate.
[08:47] <pluto> h
[08:48] <n2diy> linux_user400354: your monitor only does what your video card tells it to do, focus on your video card.
[08:48] <linux_user400354> n2diy: what do you suggest?
[08:58] <somerville32> !netsplit | :)
[08:58] <ubotu> :): netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[08:58] <fokuslee> klewis: the only thing i can think of is reconfiguring gnome and restart
[08:58] <linux_user400354> fokuslee: okay, neither of you really know how to fix it and cant say anything except something general that is false anyways and not answer my questions cause you dont know the answers, so i am going to another channel.
[08:58] <klewis> i mv'ed the .gconf
[08:58] <klewis> and it didn't fix it
[08:58] <n2diy> linux_user400354: your video card drives your monitor, you can tell your monitor to be god, but if your video card can't  talk to god, it doest't matter. What are the specs or your video card?
[08:58] <klewis> changes in preferences while in this Xgl/GNOME session don't take any effect
[08:58] <klewis> theme preferences that is
[08:58] <Math^> hello, I've got some problem using WinXP on Vmware: http://www.placemath.nl/temp/vmware-winxpprof.png
[08:58] <Math^> anyone know what to do?
[08:58] <fokuslee> klewis here are some of the reconfiguration you can try
[08:58] <fokuslee> dpkg-reconfigure gnome-applets
[08:58] <fokuslee> dpkg-reconfigure gnome-destop-data; control-center; menus; system-tools; gnomesession; gdm
[08:59] <fokuslee> klewis personally i had a gnome not starting correctly problem reconfigure applets fixed it
[08:59] <fokuslee> klewis personal i would go reconfigure gnomesession and applets first
[09:00] <klewis> k
[09:00] <Qubert> alright still working on my wireless problems, and for some reason it's giving my card 2 different names
[09:00] <pyr0000> hello
[09:01] <pyr0000> i have a question: i installed xgl now i see that i is not nessacery for nvidia anymore. how do i go about removing it.
[09:01] <CorpseFeeder> I've lost my swap space.. it's just gone. And now ubuntu just dies and reboots aty random... help!
[09:01] <subzero800> I cannot change my resolution, I have beryl/xgl running on an ati card using the fglrx drivers, The display I want to run 1280x1024 is external from my laptop which is 1280x800, here is my pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1408/ an anybody help?
[09:02] <lotacus> who here running beryl?
[09:02] <mvfeinstein> Can anyone here recommend a good PHP IDE hopefully one that supports SVN
[09:03] <CorpseFeeder> how do I get my swap space back?
[09:04] <CorpseFeeder> in a few moments this machine will reboot by itself again
[09:04] <deepsa> oh i see
[09:05] <CorpseFeeder> i am using edgy 6.10... how do I recreate my swap space which has vanished?\
[09:05] <Math^> lotacus, I am
[09:05] <subzero800> lotacus, I am also
[09:05] <subzero800> I cannot change my resolution, I have beryl/xgl running on an ati card using the fglrx drivers, The display I want to run 1280x1024 is external from my laptop which is 1280x800, here is my pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1408/ an anybody help?
[09:06] <Qubert> CorpseFeeder, probably have to remake the partition with a partition manager and reinitialize it
[09:06] <lotacus> cool two people out of 865
[09:06] <lotacus> heh
[09:06] <Qubert> but that I can't confirm lol
[09:06] <fokuslee> Qubert what u mean by reinitialize?
[09:06] <Math^> better to have nVidia
[09:06] <Qubert> well, format whatever you want to call it
[09:06] <lotacus> have either of you two experienced a black rendered desktop while beryl is running?
[09:06] <Qubert> then again it's been a while since I've tinkered with swap stuffs
[09:07] <CorpseFeeder> does edgy come with a partition manager? What do I use?
[09:07] <Math^> lotacus, what do u mean?
[09:07] <CorpseFeeder> I can't find one here
[09:07] <Dralid> A few days ago Ubuntu released an update, now X refuses to load with "No Screen Available", /etc/X11/xorg.conf @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1409/
[09:07] <fokuslee> corpsefeeder use gparted
[09:07] <Math^> lotacus, I use a skydome, that's what u mean?
[09:07] <fokuslee> corpsefeeder gparted is the partition manager u used when u installed ubuntu in the first place u should feel rite at home : )
[09:08] <CorpseFeeder> ok.. can I run the partitioner from the install CD without having to reinstall everything?
[09:08] <Math^> can someone (nederlands misschien) can help me with this link: http://www.placemath.nl/temp/vmware-winxpprof.png
[09:09] <lotacus> well, what's happening with mine, is when beryl is started and after the beryl splash screen, the entire desktop is black (as if the monitor was off) and only the mouse pointer is visible. but if I do ctrl+alt+up arrow etc, I can rotate the cube. (verified by noticing the beryl logo on one of the sides). other than that, the session is completely useless.
[09:09] <fokuslee> Corpsefeeder well makesure u don't delete ur partition for / u should be ok : )
[09:09] <Angela_beef> hello
[09:09] <Math^> lotacus, srange...
[09:09] <lotacus> also the water effect will work
[09:09] <CorpseFeeder> ok.. i will go see if I can work it out myself. thanks
[09:09] <lotacus> but it doesn't render the desktop and windows etc..
[09:09] <pyr0000> so i want to install beryl fresh but i have it already and i installed xgl which i guess i didnt so how do i remove everything and start over?
[09:09] <Math^> lotacus, but everything is black?
[09:09] <Angela_beef> I have Xubuntu... can someone please suggest a font viewer and installer, TIA :)
[09:10] <lotacus> Math^ yea
[09:10] <Math^> lotacus, thats weird, what videocard u use?
[09:10] <fokuslee> Help my firefox 32bit keeps on upgrading itself to 64bit any ideas ?
[09:10] <lotacus> Radeon x1650
[09:10] <Math^> ah... ati
[09:10] <Angela_beef> !font viewer
[09:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about font viewer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:10] <Math^> lotacus, u use fglrx?
[09:11] <lotacus> yea
[09:11] <Math^> hmm ok, and u use aixgl?
[09:11] <lotacus> no
[09:11] <lotacus> i dont think
[09:11] <lotacus> oh wait
[09:11] <lotacus> thoes are the open source?
[09:12] <Math^> erm... I'm not sure, but i think u have to use aixgl for radeon
[09:12] <Math^> lotacus, try #beryl
[09:12] <klewis> no luck :(
[09:12] <lotacus> yea I did. just two people talking about stupod OS/2 warp
[09:12] <somerville32> or better yet, #ubuntu-xgl
[09:12] <Math^> lotacus, ^^
[09:13] <Dralid> A few days ago Ubuntu released an update, now X refuses to load (Server crashes on startup) /etc/X11/xorg.conf @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1409/
[09:13] <Math^> i know... everyone is sleaping at #ubuntu-nl to
[09:13] <arejay> Gotta question, i'am running feisty and want to know where Xserver looks for fonts at? In xorg.conf i don't see a "files" section like previous versions of xorg
[09:13] <klewis> yey, randomly logged out :(
[09:13] <arejay> I need to add a font path
[09:14] <Math^> lotacus, u use EdgyEft?
[09:14] <Math^> or Dapper
[09:15] <lotacus> yea
[09:15] <lotacus> edgy
[09:16] <Math^> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_GC_Drivers
[09:17] <canllaith> is anyone able to point me to a document that explains ubuntu's use of UUID in fstab?
[09:17] <klewis> so no-one else have any ideas regarding these gnome themes or lack thereof? :(
[09:17] <arejay> Does anyone know how to add a font path to xorg there is no font directorys setup by default in ubuntu's xorg.conf
[09:17] <arejay> I'm not sure how it's accessing fonts
[09:17] <arejay> hrm
[09:17] <fokuslee> klewis sorri im out of ideas : (
[09:18] <klewis> dang. it's just kinda... weird
[09:18] <klewis> i mean
[09:18] <fokuslee> yeah i no its not like u have a blank screen or can't log on its like u can't change a theme
[09:18] <fokuslee> maybe u start metacity the change it then start beryl again?
[09:18] <lotacus> yea I have all that working
[09:18] <Math^> lotacus, I hope they will wakeup @ #beryl, becouse I'm not realy familiar with this
[09:19] <lotacus> lol
[09:19] <Math^> with black screens etc.
[09:19] <klewis> fokuslee: the thing's butt ugly. i just spent 3 days getting this far after edgy upgrade (should never have started it :P)
[09:19] <klewis> lotacus: what guide did you follow to get the Xgl session going?
[09:20] <fokuslee> klewis something broken? maybe aptitude dist-upgrade and read the suggestion?
[09:20] <lotacus> dude, I followed every guide. heh.
[09:20] <TheLance> hey how do you unignore a IRC user in X-chat?
[09:20] <klewis> i fixed all of those issues
[09:20] <lotacus> they all state the same thing in xorg.conf
[09:20] <klewis> ignoring the xorg.conf ;)
[09:20] <lotacus> and the same commands to verify that acceration is enabled
[09:20] <lotacus> which it is.
[09:20] <klewis> if it's an issue like this, the xorg is probably unrelated
[09:20] <TheLance> the typical unignore doesn't work
[09:20] <klewis> it sounds more like gnome isn't starting to me
[09:20] <fokuslee> klewis ouch for u yeah i think soo too something inside gdm
[09:21] <fokuslee> klewis upgrade is always troublesome thats why i just clean install
[09:21] <klewis> fokuslee: indeed, but i was hoping it'd gotten better ;)
[09:21] <TheLance> yeah clean install is the best bet
[09:21] <TheLance> just always backup your inportant files
[09:21] <lotacus> hmm
[09:21] <yi> hi, what's the developers meta package
[09:21] <Dralid> I'm having trouble getting ubuntu to load - X server keeps crashing during startup
[09:21] <klewis> i usually do a clean install, but wanted to see how upgrade was going these days ;)
[09:21] <yi> that installs a c++ compiler/c ompiler
[09:21] <yi> *c compiler
[09:21] <yi> i keep forgetting the name..
[09:22] <klewis> lotacus: so have you set it up with a startxgl.sh in /usr/bin? that way?
[09:22] <lotacus> klewis this happens even when starting beryl from the console window
[09:22] <lotacus> yea I have startxgl.sh setup
[09:22] <klewis> i see; so even when you start a gnome session with Xgl without beryl, then run it, you get a black screen?
[09:23] <lotacus> eya
[09:23] <lotacus> *yea
[09:23] <klewis> odd
[09:23] <klewis> v. odd :P
[09:23] <TheLance> hey which IRC program do you guys use in ubuntu?
[09:24] <lotacus> dunno why it would render the beryl picture in skydome or whatever they call it, but not any windows and such
[09:24] <klewis> xchat if i'm in a gui, bitchx or irssi if i'm not
[09:24] <lotacus> would it do that if it couldn't load a theme?
[09:24] <cypher1> TheLance, i use xchat
[09:24] <Dralid> TheLance - I use chatzilla in firefox
[09:24] <TheLance> do you know how to unignore a user in xchat?
[09:24] <TheLance> because the typical unignore codes doesn't work
[09:24] <klewis> TheLance: /unignor seems to exist
[09:24] <klewis> *unignore
[09:25] <klewis> you can type /ignore without arguments to check the ignore list and make sure you're getting the mask right
[09:25] <TheLance> k
[09:25] <TheLance> but i typed it in several times
[09:25] <TheLance> damn thing won't work
[09:25] <TheLance> i think im not gonna use this anymore
[09:25] <TheLance> moving to Gzip
[09:25] <klewis> Gzip?
[09:26] <lotacus> klewis: the gnome-desktop package was removed recently. I was told it was safe to do so
[09:26] <lotacus> .. that was unrelated to beryl.
[09:26] <lotacus> iunno if it had any dependancies though.
[09:27] <TheLance> yeah the damn unignore code doesn't work
[09:27] <TheLance> its unignore then username right?
[09:27] <lotacus> klewis: but I don't think that matters. If I run bery in an xgl session and beryl isn't set as the display manager, I can run compiz with no problems. So i'm thinking that maybe it's beryl settings or something
[09:27] <makuseru> how can i read/copy an encrypted dvd in ubuntu?
[09:27] <fokuslee> my firefox 32bit browser keeps on upgrading to the 64bit browser how do i start this?
[09:27] <fokuslee> i mean stop
[09:28] <TheLance> you can't copy DVDs in ubuntu yet
[09:28] <TheLance> you cna burn them
[09:28] <makuseru> you cant rip them to an iso?
[09:28] <TheLance> but you cant do an exact cop
[09:28] <TheLance> you can convert the movie files to something else
[09:28] <makuseru> its a game
[09:28] <TheLance> and hten convert it back into a dvd iso
[09:28] <TheLance> but its a long process
[09:28] <TheLance> there is a tutatorial on the internet
[09:28] <TheLance> google it
[09:28] <makuseru> have
[09:28] <makuseru> no results
[09:29] <makuseru> that were usefull
[09:29] <noobcook> i cant get my wine to run apps off my windows partition ><
[09:29] <noobcook> i think the apps have dependencies
[09:29] <noobcook> nuuu
[09:29] <_damian> how do you remount the partitions in the /etc/fstab file?
[09:29] <`123> I have an odd issue that is not covered in the forums. whenever the screensaver activates, my gdm session restarts (crashes it appears). Ive checked the logfiles, but they dont seem to say anything useful
[09:29] <fokuslee> _damian:  just mount /dev/wutever
[09:30] <Dralid__> ignore *!*@*
[09:32] <ademan> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=336285     is there any hope for me?
[09:32] <koregaonpark> Anyone there?
[09:33] <mvfeinstein> Can anyone here recommend a good PHP IDE hopefully one that supports SVN
[09:33] <dredhammer> hello is there a  program that can edit multimedia files ? for example add or change the Audio/Video sections when you right click on properties if you forgot to add it in Cinelerra before rendering
[09:33] <ploom> after upgrading nvidia-glx and linux restricted modules - does only update-manager say when (if) restart is needed?
[09:33] <Dralid> TheLance - you there?
[09:33] <TheLance> yeah
[09:33] <Dralid> TheLance - try /unignore <username mask> ALL
[09:34] <TheLance> k
[09:34] <canllaith> mvfeinstein: eclipse ?
[09:35] <fokuslee> ademan that looked awefull sorri
[09:35] <ademan> yeah, i'm dying here
[09:35] <TheLance> didn't owkr dralid
[09:35] <fokuslee> ademan why don't u try flux on a usb or knoppix something like that if ur screen is still borken i think itz hardware
[09:35] <canllaith> mvfeinstein: It has excellent svn support and can have some php support... although I'm now hearing from someone else here that he didn't like it.
[09:35] <ademan> it was a super expensive laptop i got with the specific purpose of doing openGL programming and being able to play with all of the nice new features
[09:35] <fokuslee> b/c the first too picture u seen some ubuntu graphics
[09:35] <Dralid> TheLance, what do you get when you try /ignore with no options?
[09:35] <TheLance> well i'm done with it
[09:36] <TheLance> i get a little box
[09:36] <TheLance> showing the people i have ignored
[09:36] <ademan> yeah, well i'm using it right now, it's just when i do anything 3d related
[09:36] <fokuslee> ademan graphics card in laptop can be replaced there are some guides on opening it up on google wut brand is urs?
[09:36] <jedrick> !paste
[09:36] <ubotu> paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[09:36] <ademan> sager, a rather small brand unfortunately
[09:36] <fokuslee> ademna so anything too d is fine?
[09:36] <ademan> yeah
[09:36] <klewis> i seriously wish i had a job that involved fixing half of the problems with all this stuff
[09:36] <ademan> i'm using it right now, X11 works fine other than 3d
[09:37] <fokuslee> ademan ur using the vesa driver?
[09:37] <ademan> nope
[09:37] <ademan> nvidia actually
[09:37] <ademan> it works fine untill 3d, which is really wierd to me
[09:38] <fokuslee> ademan soo strange how can dropping it only breaks opengl
[09:38] <ademan> i dunno, and i can't install older drivers since i cant ctrl+alt+f1'
[09:38] <jedrick> i need help.. i can't download using sudo apt-get ... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1413/      .. help pls..
[09:38] <ademan> well i can, but i get that screen again
[09:38] <iain> I've got a computer that can't boot off anything but the HDD.  I put that in another system, installed Ubuntu, and put it back, but I get interrupt errors and no bootable system.  Anyone know what I can do about this?
[09:38] <`123> I have an odd issue that is not covered in the forums. whenever the screensaver activates, my gdm session restarts (crashes it appears). This has occured since ive installed the xorg core upgrade, how might i downgrade to the older version of xorg core?
[09:38] <ademan> so i guess it's not JUST 3d, but some specific path i guess
[09:39] <ademan> it's not just fullscreen stuff either, glxgears killed it
[09:39] <SurfnKid> ni ni
[09:39] <fokuslee> hold on brb
[09:40] <taowell> im a linux noob :( and trying to configure xorg.conf to let me change resolutions is kicking my ass :x
[09:40] <fokuslee> ademan sorri there was a gaint spider on my desk had to kill it
[09:40] <ademan> hahah, glad you got it
[09:41] <ademan> taowell: what seems to be the problem?
[09:41] <fokuslee> ademan u can synaptic uninstall the driver u reboot u will be confronted x is broken dpkg-reconfigure xserver all that stuff but i done it before then u change it to vesa then install an older version
[09:41] <dredhammer> Hello i am looking for an app that can edit the properties of a multitmedia file.
[09:41] <dredhammer> For example to add or change the General Info like the Title of the file etc.
[09:41] <dredhammer> That you can see if you right click on Properties in Nautilus but cannot change.
[09:41] <dredhammer> I recently created some files using Cinelerra and forgot to add the details before rendering out.
[09:41] <dredhammer> And rather than re-render is there a way to simply add the the info in to already created files?
[09:42] <fokuslee> ademan u can select older versions by apt-cache policy
[09:42] <taowell> well i checked this book i got; and it says to make sure that my vid card and monitor are recognized with the correct driver; but within the "screen resolution" under system i can only choose 640x480
[09:42] <Kristov> hi
[09:42] <fokuslee> ademan:  u probably no it thou
[09:42] <ademan> fokuslee: if only i had used a *.deb...   i installed from the NVIDIA binary blob off their site
[09:42] <`123> taowell: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:42] <ademan> i don't even know how to properly remove them
[09:42] <taowell> O_O lets see <3
[09:43] <`123> taowell: if that doesnt work, check www.ubuntuforums.org
[09:43] <Qubert> device management question, anyone?
[09:43] <fokuslee> ademan so u are saying synaptic doesn't even no nvidia-glx is there rite?
[09:43] <Qubert> how come my pci wireless card gets two names??? it's confusing my system ;_;
[09:43] <lotacus> issue solved
[09:44] <fokuslee> well b/c u can't go to terminal the only other one is the add remove thing u can try under application
[09:44] <fokuslee> ademan:  can u not even run a gnome-terminal emulator?
[09:44] <ademan> naw that works fine
[09:45] <ademan> but you can't install a new nvidia driver without going to a virtual terminal (ctrl+alt+f1)
[09:45] <klewis> ok; i've checked the difference between the two sessions
[09:45] <ademan> well, i could use the ubuntu package... that might be a good plan...
[09:45] <ademan> since that's a WAY older driver
[09:45] <klewis> the only difference (other than xgl starts up on one and not the other) is that the xgl session complains about "Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/TTF/" etc...
[09:45] <fokuslee> ademan yes u can
[09:46] <fokuslee> dpkg purge ur diver
[09:46] <iain> Does anyone know how to install ubuntu without hardware autodetection?
[09:46] <ademan> i can do that even though i didn't install with dpkg?
[09:46] <jedrick> i need help.. i can't download using sudo apt-get ... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1413/      .. help pls..
[09:46] <fokuslee> ademan wut u install with?
[09:46] <iain> I want to install ubuntu when my HDD is in a different computer than where it will end up.
[09:47] <fokuslee> ademan u can do that in an emulator b/c for ur currrent session ur orig driver is still loaded itz only when u rmmod or reboot then the newly installed driver take over
[09:47] <fokuslee> ademan if u installed with igeb wutever the graphic tool aptitude should have an entry for it so just apitutde remove ur driver
[09:48] <ademan> naw, i installed with the *.bin off nvidia's site
[09:48] <smartman> guys i'll setup ubuntu now the my ex3 partion is 3GB   is it good or ubntu want more ?
[09:48] <fokuslee> ..uh darn do they have an uninstalling method?
[09:49] <markeib> hello?
[09:49] <ademan> fokuslee: none that i know of unfortunately
[09:49] <ademan> but honestly i don't think rolling back the driver will save me
[09:49] <markeib> I was just wondering how I could uninstall packages like totem-xine without installing the ubuntu-desktop package. Does anybody know?
[09:50] <smartman> hey thir is any help ?
[09:50] <fokuslee> ademan well i no realplayer linux is installed with .bin also maybe u can get some instruction there
[09:50] <ademan> hrm maybe, if only i knew what files it installed
[09:51] <fokuslee> ademan ok i found out i have bad news for u
[09:52] <ademan> uh oh
[09:52] <fokuslee> ademan the only way to remove is rm all the files config files manually
[09:52] <ademan> lol, what'd you find out?
[09:52] <ademan> yeah i figured
[09:52] <fokuslee> so i would imagine u have to updatedb locate and find and rm very carefullly
[09:52] <ademan> pain in the butt though...
[09:52] <fokuslee> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/35708-uninstall-realplayer-10-a.html
[09:52] <fokuslee> ademan i can almost feel ur pain
[09:53] <fokuslee> so sorri mate
[09:53] <ademan> hahah thanks, i'll live, i'll get through this haha
[09:54] <jedrick> i need help.. i can't download using sudo apt-get ... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1413/      .. help pls..
[09:54] <kraut> moin
[09:54] <fokuslee> ademan u work as a programmer?
[09:54] <ademan> not work, i'm a hobbyist, but yeah
[09:55] <ademan> jedrick: try sudo apt-get install vlc -f
[09:55] <fokuslee> ademan:  darn soo much respect.  im looking for a computer related job i was gonna ask u for some pointers
[09:55] <klewis> grr, where is this session saving it's changes to :(
[09:55] <fokuslee> ademan:  cuz i hate the job i got rite now i picked the wrong majors in schoool darn it
[09:55] <ademan> haha thanks, yeah i wish i was in the field, but not yet
[09:55] <fokuslee> kk ^.^v
[09:55] <ademan> i'm in school right now for computerscience
[09:55] <markeib> I was just wondering how I could uninstall packages like totem-xine without installing the ubuntu-desktop package. Does anybody know?
[09:55] <ademan> what'd you major in?
[09:56] <fokuslee> ademan eecs ? wut shcool?
[09:56] <fokuslee> i majored in molecular bio and applied math
[09:56] <ademan> i dunno, that sounds pretty cool
[09:56] <itsmabus> ugh! does anybody have any idea how I'd get my router to stop dropping packets it thinks are from a spoof attack? my bridged network for vmware won't work because it thinks the packets coming from my wireless device are spoofed
[09:56] <ademan> i'm at a community college right now, they have an awesome transfer agreement with cal berkely
[09:57] <EnsignRedshirt> Does anyone know of any imaging software in Linux that can do HDR merging?
[09:57] <fokuslee> ademan are u serious?? nice i graduated for CAL
[09:57] <jedrick> ademan, i still got the same error
[09:57] <fokuslee> ademan CAL is good for EECS u will get an awesome job after : )
[09:57] <ademan> jedrick: hrm, dunno then, sorry, you could try sudo apt-get remove [those two packages that are giving you trouble] 
[09:57] <fokuslee> ademan my roomate was EECS he is working for ebay now 65k
[09:57] <ademan> fokuslee: wow, haha awesome, oh and if you're from the area, it's DVC i'm at right now
[09:58] <ktulu-> i have an HP Deskjet 3650 which was working fine until today. now it can't be detected at all. i just keep getting "no device found"
[09:58] <fokuslee> ademan sorri i don't no dat college what city is it in i only lived there for college
[09:59] <ademan> fokuslee: ah, its out in concord/pleasant hill
[09:59] <ademan> its over the hills from cal :-)
[10:00] <fokuslee> ademan i c i c yeah i been to concord for Olive garden and frys hehe
[10:00] <ademan> haha
[10:00] <jedrick> ademan, i can't remove it coz it's not yet even installed
[10:00] <ademan> jedrick: and yet it's saying they have unmet dependancies?
[10:01] <fokuslee> kk nite nite everybody and gl with ur nvidia prob layz
[10:01] <ademan> or ARE they the unmet dependancies? ttry installing them
[10:01] <ademan> hahah thanks fokuslee, night
[10:01] <ademan> ah they are the unmet dependancies
[10:01] <jedrick> ademan, yep
[10:02] <ademan> you could try sudo apt-get installing them before you install vlc, but it sounds like they may not install
[10:02] <jedrick> ademan, couldn't find package... errr
[10:03] <ademan> jedrick: i assume you've got universe and multiverse?
[10:04] <jedrick> ademan, dunno, im just new to linux
[10:05] <ademan> jedrick: ah, can you do me a favor and gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and paste it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:05] <jedrick> ademan, ok wait
[10:06] <jedrick> ademan,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1415/
[10:07] <ademan> yeah you've got universe and multiverse
[10:07] <ademan> so that begs the question, "wtf?"
[10:07] <jedrick> ahmm haven't you notice some of the http:// has been changed to ftp :)
[10:08] <jedrick> is that ok?
[10:09] <klewis> grr, this is driving me mental :P
[10:09] <jedrick> what is apt-pinning?
[10:09] <ademan> jedrick: well apt-get can fetch from ftp, http, probably ssh and a bunch of other things, so that shouldn't be an issue as long as it's correct
[10:10] <jedrick> ademan, ok
[10:10] <klewis> what i need is some way to find out where it's reading this config from
[10:10] <jedrick> then what could be the problem
[10:10] <klewis> or to find out in what file on the system these fonts are specified that are failing
[10:11] <ademan> jedrick: ah one thing i didn't pick up on was you're running dapper
[10:11] <ademan> why aren't you running edgy?
[10:11] <gandalfcome_> i have a problem with my dual screen setup (ati). I get a mouse offset on one screen. Please help
[10:12] <jedrick> ademan, actually im running breezy.. im about to upgrade to dapper then edgy but i got errors on update
[10:12] <ademan> jedrick: ah, well honestly, i tried to upgrade from dapper to edgy, it was a pain in the butt
[10:12] <ademan> and not everything worked right
[10:12] <woodwizzle> Is it possible to completely remove firefox from Ubuntu but keep Epiphany?
[10:13] <crimsun> woodwizzle: not unless you compile epiphany-browser yourself against xulrunner
[10:13] <ademan> i honestly reccomend just doing a fresh install of edgy (after backing up your important files of course)
[10:13] <crimsun> woodwizzle: our epiphany-browser build-deps on firefox
[10:13] <woodwizzle> Ah, I see
[10:13] <jedrick> ok
[10:14] <klewis> and i recommend listening to what ademan says, given my personal upgrade experience ;)
[10:14] <ademan> yeah my upgrade was terrible
[10:14] <ademan> but anyways i'm about to either confirm or disprove that my 3d card is in fact busted after i dropped my laptop, wish me luck, brb all
[10:15] <ktulu-> anyone have any idea why my hp printed would not be detected?
[10:15] <ktulu-> printer*
[10:16] <jedrick> weeee im upgrading now to dapper :)
[10:17] <somerville32> jendrick: Congratz :)
[10:18] <jedrick> :)
[10:18] <jedrick> what's the difference between edgy and dapper?
[10:19] <diskus> edgy has newest software and dapper older
[10:19] <diskus> ?
[10:19] <jedrick> oh ok :)
[10:20] <Flosoft> hey
[10:21] <Flosoft> I have got a problem that I can't seem to solve
[10:21] <therapy>                 /CHANOPT BEEP ON
[10:21] <therapy>                 /CHANOPT BEEP ON
[10:21] <iustin85> hello people! i have just a simple question (but the ubuntu installer don`t help me very much)
[10:21] <k_vv> hello... i wanna ask how to execute a command during boot time...is thre something like local.start in ubuntu ??
[10:21] <Amaranth> iustin85: ask away
[10:21] <iustin85> I have a 5 G drive for / without lvm
[10:21] <Amaranth> k_vv: /etc/rc.local
[10:22] <Flosoft> someone else has already posted a good description on the ubuntuforums .... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=284745
[10:22] <iustin85> and a 80 G drive for /home which i want with lvm
[10:22] <Amaranth> iustin85: the Desktop CD cannot do lvm
[10:22] <k_vv> Amaranth: danke...;)
[10:22] <iustin85> i use the server installation
[10:22] <Amaranth> iustin85: alright
[10:23] <Amaranth> iustin85: i'm not seeing a problem then
[10:23] <Michaelk> Hi
[10:23] <Amaranth> unless you have an existing /home and you're trying to get it into lvm, can't do that
[10:23] <KrisWood> Hi everyone, my windows computer died again so I'm on my ubuntu box for the night and was wondering about some ways to make it better. My first question is, is it worth upgrading to edgy from dapper?\
[10:23] <iustin85> Amaranth, no i don`t want that
[10:23] <Flosoft> any ideas on how to fix this?
[10:23] <jedrick> how can i mount my windows drive automatically everytime i boot up?
[10:24] <iustin85> Amaranth, i want just my /home to be on /lvm
[10:24] <iustin85> and the ubuntu installer put the whole thing on lvm
[10:24] <ExxKA> jedrick, you gotta edit your fstab to auto mount :)
[10:25] <ExxKA> jedrick, i can't remember the setting atm, but look it up in man, or on google..
[10:25] <RamiKassab> hey guys what's the best video editing software for Linux? also, what software is the best for converting video from one format to another?
[10:25] <Amaranth> iustin85: I haven't been in the installer in awhile but what you want should be possible
[10:25] <elyon> Could someone help me out with Beryl?  It runs, but it doesn't change to the Beryl window manager (and I receive several errors in the console...but don't know how to fix them)
[10:25] <ExxKA> RamiKassab, Kino is a very popular tool..
[10:25] <Amaranth> elyon: #ubuntu-xgl
[10:25] <RamiKassab> ExxKA: does it do both?
[10:26] <pradeep> elyon, and/or #beryl
[10:26] <Amaranth> elyon: or #beryl
[10:26] <ExxKA> RamiKassab, I don't know..
[10:26] <elyon> Amaranth, yeah, I'm already there... no one around.
[10:26] <ExxKA> RamiKassab, but I don't think so.. It does editting..
[10:26] <RamiKassab> ExxKA: have you hear of LIVES before?
[10:26] <jedrick> ExxKA, how to edit my fstab? im just new to linux
[10:26] <iustin85> Amaranth, just one more question please that will save me :) ... Is it possible to change the location of my /home later (after install) ?
[10:27] <Amaranth> iustin85: yes, just change it in /etc/fstab
[10:27] <iustin85> aha ... yes ... obvious ... thank you!
[10:27] <Sir_Penguin> Hi everyone :)
[10:27] <Sir_Penguin> Just need a  little help pretty quick if possible.
[10:28] <Sir_Penguin> I'm setting up my wireless and I just need to change the mac adress to point to our AP using iwconfig.
[10:28] <ExxKA> jedrik, fire up the console and write this command; sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[10:28] <Sir_Penguin> I'm in as root and I've had no trouble changing other properties such as ESSID, Channel etc
[10:29] <jedrick> ExxKA, ok ten?
[10:29] <ExxKA> jedrick, that'll bring up the file.
[10:29] <ExxKA> jedrick, happy hacking..
[10:29] <Sir_Penguin> Unfortunately, whenever I try and go to change the MAC address it comes up telling me that i have no permission
[10:29] <beernutz> hey, how do i get nvidia drivers (for an nvidia 7950 card) to load under the "server" kernel in ubuntu 6.10?
[10:30] <Sir_Penguin> anyone got any idea and how to give myself permission to change this?
[10:30] <jedrick> man im not good at this :) i don't know what to do.. hehehee better google this thing :)
[10:30] <Amaranth> beernutz: I don't think there is a package for the server kernel, you'd have to install using the file from nvidia's website
[10:30] <ExxKA> Sir_Penguin, you already got root permissions?
[10:30] <KrisWood> I'm following the instructions for upgrading to edgy from dapper but gksu is giving me some errors
[10:30] <Sir_Penguin> yes, i ran SU
[10:30] <Amaranth> beernutz: and every time mesa gets an upgrade you have to reinstall (unless you manually dpkg-divert it)
[10:31] <KrisWood> hmmmm nm wait a sec I'll rephrase the question heh
[10:31] <Sir_Penguin> entered my password and such but it just wont let me change this, normaly i just had to restart terminal when it wouldnt let me do something
[10:31] <beernutz> Amaranth: i tried that, but the darn thing wont compile either.
[10:31] <ExxKA> Sir_Penguin, cause then the problen is probably that the MAC is in use, as we speak :P If you reboot, and boot into a lvl 3, without net connection, then you can probably edit your mac.
[10:31] <Sir_Penguin> but this time it's being particularly stubborn :(
[10:31] <Amaranth> Sir_Penguin: You can't change your MAC address
[10:31] <Amaranth> Sir_Penguin: Do you mean the bssid?
[10:31] <Sir_Penguin> not sure what the bssid is sorry
[10:31] <Amaranth> (router mac address)
[10:32] <Sir_Penguin> im not trying to change my mac address
[10:32] <KrisWood> ah ha! I didn't have the upgrade-manager
[10:32] <Sir_Penguin> im trying to change the one that my wireless adapater points too
[10:32] <Sir_Penguin> also, how do i boot in lvl 3?
[10:32] <Amaranth> Sir_Penguin: sudo iwconfig eth1 ap 00:00:00:00:00 does not work?
[10:32] <Amaranth> lvl 3?
[10:32] <ExxKA> aaaarh okay.. Then you don't need to reboot :)
[10:32] <adriany> Hello, I got a problem with making wine and scim happy...scim just won't start with wined windows apps but launching other GTK apps (for example firefox) is perfectly fine
[10:32] <Sir_Penguin> do i change eht1? i always use wlan0
[10:32] <Amaranth> in ubuntu you have single user and X
[10:32] <beernutz> Amaranth: how would i get a full kernel source set up with the "server" config for nvidia to compile against?
[10:32] <Amaranth> Sir_Penguin: then change wlan0, it was just an example
[10:33] <Amaranth> beernutz: you don't need the full source, just the headers
[10:33] <Sir_Penguin> ok, thanks, ive seen wireless things say eht1 before, just not sure.
[10:33] <ExxKA> Sir_Penguin, naaaa... eth1 are always using cables :P
[10:33] <Amaranth> beernutz: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[10:33] <Amaranth> ExxKA: my eth1 is wireless
[10:34] <KrisWood> oooooh the new upgrade-manager is nice! :D
[10:34] <Sir_Penguin> well, im not connected to the net at the mo and ive got to move my comptuer again into the current room and it ways a ton, any other ay>??
[10:34] <Sir_Penguin>  oh wait
[10:34] <ExxKA> Amaranth...yeah, now I think about it.. mine is actually too.. Sorry for rushing it..
[10:34] <Sir_Penguin> lol, sorry i thoguht that was to me :p dang, i hate doing that :p
[10:34] <beernutz> thank you Amaranth, it is at least grabbing them now  lol
[10:35] <beernutz> do i just link /usr/src/linux to that header install then?
[10:36] <KrisWood> what does "can't find DistUpgradeViewGtk" mean?
[10:36] <Sir_Penguin> Amaranth, sudo iwconfig wlan0 ap 00:00:00:00:00:00 doesn't work :(
[10:36] <Amaranth> KrisWood: You're got a broken update-manager install
[10:36] <Amaranth> Sir_Penguin: permission error?
[10:36] <Sir_Penguin> yes.
[10:36] <_loke> KrisWood: that the gui todo a distupgrade is gone
[10:36] <KrisWood> Amaranth: how do I fix it?
[10:37] <Amaranth> Sir_Penguin: the hardware (or driver) won't let you change it
[10:37] <Sir_Penguin> it seems not :(
[10:37] <Amaranth> Sir_Penguin: Why do you need a specific AP?
[10:37] <KrisWood> I just did a sudo apt-get install update-manager
[10:37] <markeib> hello, is there a way to let grub "recheck my windows entry"?
[10:37] <Sir_Penguin> well, im not too good witht this stuff but...
[10:37] <KrisWood> and I guess it didn't work
[10:37] <Sir_Penguin> if i run iwconfig wlan0
[10:37] <_loke> KrisWood: try apt-get -f install
[10:38] <beernutz> gonna try the manual install again..  thanks for the pointer Amaranth
[10:38] <nayyares> i have opend a FORWARDing port on firewall, and want to check whether it works, i means want to check from client to remote host connection on this open Forward Port? what linux utility will do this sort of test
[10:38] <Amaranth> Sir_Penguin: You're supposed to fill in an essid and it'll associate with a router with that name on it's own
[10:38] <Sir_Penguin> i have all my details such as ESSID, channel, bitrate and whatever and they're all correct it just seems that my MAC address is wrong
[10:38] <KrisWood> _loke: no change
[10:38] <Sir_Penguin> that may be reffering to something else, im not too sure.
[10:38] <_loke> try dpkg-reconfigure update-manager
[10:39] <Sir_Penguin> I just can't find anything on setting up wireles. my wireles adapter is supported but ive really just been experimenting.
[10:39] <Sir_Penguin> i think that i may have some wireless programs conflicting, im not sure though, don't know how to disable them without uninstaling them
[10:40] <RamiKassab> guys, does anyone know of some good video conversion apps?
[10:40] <Sir_Penguin> oh, okay, well, ive got network selector and that shows my network ESSID but with 0 range, on windows i  ahve 4/5
[10:41] <Sir_Penguin> im just going to check something quickly, ill be back soon
[10:42] <beernutz> WOOT!  that was what i was missing Amaranth!  Thanks a bunch!
[10:42] <Sir_Penguin> well, ive still got this wierd problem. in the networking app (admin>networking) i setup my details and disabled eth0 and eht1 but whenever i close it then reopen it again it goes back to having no location with the ethernet ports re-enabled
[10:43] <KrisWood> ok doing the upgrade tool again
[10:43] <Sir_Penguin> i DO apply the location once ive selected it.
[10:43] <KrisWood> still can't find DistUpgradeViewGtk
[10:43] <stephan21> can someone tell me how to get azureus to work in edgy
[10:43] <KrisWood> _loke: that's a no go :(
[10:44] <roryy> !azureus | stephan21
[10:44] <ubotu> stephan21: azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[10:45] <Sir_Penguin> amarath, do you know how to get edgy to permantly stick with its location?
[10:45] <Sir_Penguin> this has only started happening it seems since i got network selector
[10:46] <elyon> Okay, I'm following a guide on UbuntuGuide.org... and while the guide is for EDGY, its asking me to add repositories for DAPPER.  Is this going to screw stuff up?
[10:46] <Sir_Penguin> just going to try something again, back soon
[10:46] <KrisWood> yay! Google saves the day! It seems I needed install python-vte
[10:46] <roryy> elyon: sounds a bit suspect.  Are you trying to install something from the standard ubuntu repos?
[10:46] <KrisWood> elyon: the ubuntuguide site is evil and not maintained by anyone remotely connected to ubuntu
[10:47] <elyon> roryy: I'm trying to install Beryl.
[10:47] <KrisWood> elyon: what you need is probably on the ubuntu wiki or forums
[10:47] <mertulas> hello guys, i am new in linux and i have a sony vaio sz220 with ubuntu edgy loaded
[10:47] <erg> hello
[10:47] <fgeller> hi, i'm having troubles installing "nvidia-glx" with apt-get, it misses the package "nvidia-kernel-1.0.9629" but i did install "linux-restricted-modules-386", anyone know how to fix this? (i'm running edgy)
[10:47] <mertulas> i would like to ask a question
[10:47] <mertulas> what does "soft linking files"
[10:48] <erg> I to have questions but it seems busy here
[10:48] <elyon> KrisWood: Thank you.
[10:48] <roryy> elyon: hrm, I have no specific information, sorry. Ubotu suggests http://forum.beryl-project.org/ and #ubuntu-xgl
[10:48] <KrisWood> elyon: I'd give you a direct link but I'm relatively new around here too
[10:49] <KrisWood> elyon: personally I'd try googling ubuntu beryl
[10:49] <erg> brb
[10:49] <b33r_> Hello after I updated X the new update, it started to give me error and doesn't boot with X..
[10:49] <Sir_Penguin> what would be better for connecting to networks, wifi-radar or network selector?
[10:50] <fgeller> b33r_: you got a nvidia card too?
[10:50] <gandalfcome_> i have a problem with my dual screen setup (ati). I get a mouse offset on one screen. Please help
[10:50] <b33r_> fgeller yeah
[10:50] <fgeller> b33r_: yeah i got the same problem after updating
[10:50] <b33r_> ;<
[10:50] <b33r_> what do we do? :/
[10:50] <fgeller> b33r_: seems that apt-get doesn't see the nvidia-kernel package
[10:51] <fgeller> b33r_: no clue so far, also waiting for someone to tell me how to force the install
[10:51] <b33r_> do u know how to remove this update?
[10:51] <erg> well the ubuntu-xgl chat is dead quiet
[10:51] <KrisWood> yay upgrade is working via the gui now! :D
[10:52] <b33r_> ;O
[10:52] <erg> may I ask someone a couple of easy questions (I just cant find the answers in the man pages)
[10:52] <fgeller> b33r_: well it would mean downgrading the packages, but i don't know which conflict removed nvidia-glx
[10:52] <k_vv> Amaranth: but i don't have /etc/rc.local...:/
[10:52] <exs> Does anyone know of a free dns?.. my own ISP dns is slow and poor, so I used openDNS and that's also annoying with its built in search engine. Is there any other free dns's?
[10:53] <b33r_> KrisWood u talkin bout the X update?
[10:53] <erg> I guess no one is free then?
[10:53] <KrisWood> b33r_: I'm talking about update-manager, upgrading from dapper to edgy
[10:53] <roryy> erg: it's best just to ask
[10:54] <b33r_> oh =\
[10:54] <klewis> *sigh* this just gets worse and worse
[10:54] <KrisWood> not enough disk space!
[10:54] <KrisWood> lol
[10:54] <erg> on here goes question #1: how do I start bitchx in gtk? (Ie use bitchx-gtk)
[10:54] <stephan21> can someone tell me how to get azureus to work in edgy
[10:54] <roryy> erg: do you want a menu entry?
[10:55] <Amaranth> k_vv: it's a file, been there since ubuntu 4.10
[10:55] <erg> roryy: yes please
[10:55] <roryy> erg: (this works in edgy) - right click on 'Applications', choose 'edit menus' from the menu
[10:55] <k_vv> Amaranth: but i don't have it
[10:56] <Amaranth> k_vv: I don't think your system would even boot if you didn't have it
[10:56] <user___> hey guys there's a problem with the bittorrent client included by default with ubuntu...... if i try to open more than one instance of it, it cant listen because the local port is already in use.... anyone know how to fix this?
[10:56] <xinoeph> hi can somebody help me? how can i hide my ip in xchat?
[10:56] <roryy> erg: pick a menu (Applications -> Internet), click 'New Item', and add the entry (let me know if you need more help with this)
[10:56] <erg> roryy: ok did that and I have edgy installed
[10:56] <k_vv> Amaranth: why not ?:)
[10:57] <roryy> erg: perhaps I should have asked if you have installed bitchx-gtk ?
[10:57] <mneptok> user___: sudo aptitude install bittornado-gui
[10:57] <salty-horse> hi. how can i config ubuntu to open f-spot's import dialog (instead of another program) when I plug in a usb camera?
[10:57] <erg> roryy: yes I have bitchx-gtk installed via apt-get
[10:57] <mneptok> user___: then use BitTornado
[10:57] <k_vv> Amaranth: rc.local is a file for doing additional commands while booting...it's not necessery for booting...
[10:57] <user___> mneptok, i have tried bittornado and Azures... didn't really like either of them
[10:58] <erg> roryy: and what would be the command?
[10:58] <Amaranth> k_vv: So you know what it is, create it and have at it
[10:58] <user___> i thought i would just use the one that is installed by default...
[10:58] <klewis> anyone here know any troubleshooting steps for "GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing" . "No managable screens found... in beryl?
[10:58] <roryy> erg: I would guess 'bitchx-gtk'
[10:58] <mneptok> user___: last i knew the mainline BT client could only handle one torrent at a time.
[10:58] <roryy> erg: if that's not it, run 'dpkg -L bitchx-gtk|grep bin/' in a command window
[10:58] <roryy> erg: you should get a list of possibilities
[10:58] <k_vv> Amaranth:i've done that but it doesn't work
[10:58] <user___> mneptok, ok oh wow that really sucks
[10:58] <erg> roryy: ty Ill do that
[10:59] <b33r_> can anyone help with the new X update? after update it stopped booting in GUI..
[10:59] <EnsignRedshirt> As soon as my backup finishes, I going to (finally) upgrade from breezy to dapper.  Anything I should be aware of?
[10:59] <k_vv> Amaranth: do i have to put somewhere a symlink to this file ?
[10:59] <EnsignRedshirt> *I'm
[11:00] <Amaranth> k_vv: i don't think so
[11:00] <mneptok> user___: BitTornado is far more configurable. the gui weighs it down a bit, but it's a better client, imo.
[11:00] <hannu> set hannu /-h
[11:00] <k_vv> Amaranth:so it doesn't work
[11:00] <user___> mneptok, certainly it's a better client... but the interface isn't as clean as, say, uTorrent
[11:01] <mneptok> user___: never used uTorrent, so my opinion is meaningless :)
[11:01] <erg> roryy: that worked thank you
[11:02] <erg2> ahh
[11:02] <erg2> much better
[11:02] <Amaranth> mneptok: it's mu-torrent :)
[11:02] <wenko_> hey there. can some one tell me the default password for the warty warthog edition?
[11:02] <wenko_> for the ;live cd
[11:03] <mneptok> Amaranth: gnome.ORG, bitch O:)
[11:03] <Flannel> wenko_: er, the liveCD? or the install?  um, believe it's nothing.
[11:03] <Flannel> wenko_: if not, try "ubuntu"
[11:03] <Amaranth> mneptok: >:|
[11:03] <EnsignRedshirt> Warty had a LiveCD?
[11:03] <hannu> I wann know too how can I can get my ip hidden
[11:03] <mneptok> Amaranth: (but you're right. it IS mu-)
[11:03] <pyr0000> !svn
[11:03] <ubotu> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[11:03] <erg2> roryy: thank you very much
[11:03] <roryy> erg2: no problem
[11:04] <croatoan> i am having trouble installing the ATI control panel....can anyone help?
[11:04] <erg2> question #2: how do I kill my x session and keep it from restarting?
[11:04] <erg2> also need nvidia controll pannel installed
[11:04] <roryy> erg2: for normal ubuntu (i.e., gnome) 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop' should do it
[11:04] <Heroin> how can i add a user to FTP so that they can access a dir and only that dir, and they dont have a shell so a pure ftp user. Also can that be done without groups?
[11:05] <lzap> hello, I cannot install myphpadmin, I am getting: dpkg: error processing phpmyadmin (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 254 what to do?
[11:05] <Heroin> izap google the error
[11:05] <croatoan> i am having trouble installing the ATI control panel....can anyone help?
[11:06] <erg2> ahh thank you again bbl
[11:06] <erg2> bye all
[11:06] <asfalt> hello, i need a little help with installing on my desktop, it's been fine on my notebook but on my desktop i get "out of range" msg on my ws lcd regardless of which mode i pick in the bootcd or even if safe mode. i think it maybe xorg issue and i would still like to install then sort it out later (ati card, 19" ws lcd), any pointers/help pls
[11:06] <mineur> I'm downloading from a local mirror and it's soooooooooo slow, is there a list with mirrors?
[11:06] <lzap> Heroin: noting found :-(
[11:06] <asfalt> btw, this is edgy 6.10 i am trying to install on this desktop machine with the lcd
[11:06] <mineur> isn't your manufacturer in the list?
[11:07] <capiira> hmm anyone here know if there is a way to let rhythmbox automatically get the whole music station from shoutcast.com?
[11:07] <croatoan> i am having trouble installing the ATI control panel....can anyone help?
[11:07] <asfalt> mineur good question, and I doubt it :( it is an obscure brand "Chimei" made in china cheap yet nice lcd ;)
[11:07] <croatoan> says it cannot load the control panel b/c fireglcontrolpanel was not found
[11:07] <croatoan> i have installed the ATI driver for Linux
[11:08] <mineur> asfalt: ANd do you have the specs?
[11:08] <mineur> vertical and horizontal sync rate?
[11:08] <asfalt> mineur yes http://www.cmv.com.tw/en/product.asp?pid=%7BDA4721AD-32F5-4471-96E2-4837B6980308%7D
[11:09] <mineur> and have you set those manually?
[11:09] <asfalt> i guess that maybe the problem regardless of which mode i select in the menu on the live cd/install cd it is always out of range making me thing the refresh rate is being too high
[11:10] <asfalt> that is what I am not sure how to set them in xorg.conf before the installer loads
[11:10] <mineur> try the non graphical install then
[11:10] <asfalt> other nix live cd's worked on this display in the past with no modification
[11:10] <asfalt> with x starting up
[11:10] <b33r_> I'm having problems booting in x after the new x update
[11:11] <TtyS2> hello
[11:11] <stork> how do i fix broken packages with apt?
[11:11] <croatoan> i am having trouble installing the ATI control panel....can anyone help?
[11:12] <croatoan> i can't get the control panel to open
[11:12] <asfalt> hmmm ok perhaps i will do that but 1st i will read up about the text installer, i installed it with the graphical one before on a notebook with an existing os/dual booting but hmm i have data on this system i dont want to lose ;)
[11:12] <mineur> the non graphical is pretty similar :)
[11:13] <asfalt> i guess as long as it gives options regarding disk usage/partitioning i will be ok
[11:13] <mineur> croatoan: what have you tried?
[11:13] <mineur> asfalt: yeah it does :)
[11:13] <asfalt> otherwise i could setup my swap/target partition otherwise
[11:13] <TtyS2> what command in cli do i need to start ath0, sudo ifconfig ath0 up give wrong hostname
[11:14] <nayyares> i want to test an open FORWARD port connection through proxy, the port at proxy server is open, now i have to test local-network-machine---->proxy--->outside-network-machine connection on that specific port, how can i check it, whether it is open and working or not?
[11:14] <asfalt> bbl then sigh, rebooting to live cd text mode ;)
[11:14] <asfalt> i somewhat feel i will soon be googling in lynx ;)
[11:14] <mineur> good luck:)
[11:14] <croatoan> mineur: i have installed the ATI driver package from the site...and I am attempting to open the control panel....it says "Failed to execute child process "fireglcontrolpanel" (No such file or directory)"
[11:15] <croatoan> i'm assuming that means that i need to install the fireglcontrolpanel or something
[11:15] <mineur> nayyares: which port is it?
[11:15] <Heroin> i added a user for FTP however when i try to ftp login i keep getting 530,...
[11:15] <nayyares> 11003
[11:16] <mineur> best way to check is asking someone from the outside to ping it
[11:16] <nayyares> mineur, 11003 port, tcp,udp both
[11:16] <lzap> what should I do if I am getting: dpkg: error processing phpmyadmin (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 254 ?
[11:16] <nayyares> mineur, my local machine is on Private IP, and further more ping is blocked.
[11:17] <mineur> if that port is open...... connect to it throug telnet... if it's open you should connect to your wan ip, not your lan
[11:18] <Yodude> hey guys
[11:18] <mineur> hi
[11:18] <mettao87> hi
[11:18] <Yodude> can anyone tell me wherte can i find that mandriva linux that has transparent title bars and the "box" view of open windowsa?
[11:19] <Yodude> and is it free?
[11:19] <iustin85> plz help me : when i type # pvcreate /dev/hdc1     it says: No program pvcreate found for your current version of LVM
[11:19] <iustin85> same for the lvcreate command
[11:20] <Yodude> so does anyone know?
[11:20] <asfalt> great, there is no text installer? heh
[11:20] <mineur> Yodude: sounds like something you can get on any linux
[11:20] <croatoan> need help...having performance issues with an ATI Video Card....can't get the control panel to open either....
[11:20] <mineur> just have to know which window manager
[11:20] <Yodude> well i downloaded ubuntu 6.0.6
[11:21] <Yodude> but the transparent mandrake theme is better
[11:21] <Yodude> and there's no box view
[11:21] <asfalt> how can i enter the shell before the graphic installer starts? if i choose VGA or safe mode i still get the error "out of range"
[11:21] <mineur> every distribution comes with it's own look
[11:22] <Yodude> i see
[11:22] <Yodude> tht thing is i went to mandriva website
[11:22] <asfalt> apparently they installer defaults to "ati" driver which produces this out of range error
[11:22] <Yodude> and i went to the Mandriva one page
[11:22] <Yodude> but it doesn't seem to be the system thart has tranlusent bars and a box view
[11:22] <mineur> hmmm asfalt, I installed from the dvd... it has an option, I think it's called oem like setup
[11:22] <Yodude> is it?
[11:22] <ryan9939> i tried to install the ATI control panel too but ended up where you are too
[11:23] <asfalt> ryan i can't even get ubuntu installed/config the install process yet ;)
[11:23] <asfalt> i will worry about getting my native res 1440x900 screen working then
[11:23] <ryan9939> i ended up installing the driver without the control panel
[11:23] <Yodude> is mandriva one the distribution i'm talking about?
[11:23] <asfalt> but every other os/boot i can run 800x600 etc no prob
[11:23] <b33r_> I'm having problems booting in GUI after the new xorg update
[11:23] <Yodude> it seems to be the only free version there
[11:23] <mineur> hmm weird
[11:23] <asfalt> i don't care about no control panel i just want to install damnit
[11:23] <asfalt> ;)
[11:23] <ryan9939> let me see if i can dig up the instructions
[11:23] <mineur> lol
[11:24] <croatoan> ryan9939: what kind of card do u have?
[11:24] <ryan9939> 9800 Pro AIW
[11:24] <asfalt> i have crappy ati 9600 se
[11:24] <Yodude> is it?
[11:24] <croatoan> i have the x800 pro and i get crappy frames in even the screensavers
[11:24] <Yodude> plz annswer
[11:24] <asfalt> croatoan my bro runs the x1600 ati his beryl is nice and smooth
[11:25] <mineur> croatoan: then your driver isn't installed correctly
[11:25] <croatoan> mineur: thats what i was thinking
[11:25] <mineur> beryl runs smooth here on an intel graphic card in my laptop...
[11:25] <croatoan> how do i go about reinstalling it?
[11:25] <ryan9939> this is what i followed
[11:25] <ryan9939> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[11:25] <asfalt> heck i installed ubuntu for him he also has an lcd and had no probs
[11:25] <asfalt> mineur same here, but i disable the window wobbles/animations, kinda lags
[11:26] <asfalt> mineur also can you see video playback stay when you rotate the cube? ;)
[11:26] <mineur> I haven't tried that yet... :)
[11:26] <mineur> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI for driver installation of ati
[11:26] <asfalt> on my notebook the video playback is blued out, on my brothers card it bends/shows the playing vid as the window/cube is animated
[11:26] <asfalt> but
[11:26] <asfalt> i would just like to install lol on my desktop , i had no such prob on the notebook
[11:27] <mineur> just tried it... it's blue :)
[11:27] <ryan9939> i tried that guide mineur to no avail...this one worked for me
[11:27] <ryan9939> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[11:27] <asfalt> mineur yeah same here, i also have the intel crap in my notebook
[11:27] <asfalt> at least it runs i guess :)
[11:27] <mineur> ah well.... even whith video blue it still looks sweet :d
[11:27] <fnf_> !Hi
[11:27] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:27] <asfalt> but yeah once i seen the animations on the better card
[11:28] <asfalt> like when you do the window wobbles/resizes... on mine it lags visibly ;)
[11:28] <MetaBookfoziS> !rt61
[11:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rt61 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:28] <asfalt> anyhow i thought my somewhat crappier yet better desktop card i could play around with this but i can't well install! ;D
[11:28] <MetaBookfoziS> hi all! Please somebody help me to install  RALINK RT61 card's driver
[11:28] <asfalt> the cd wants to drive my lcd too high regardless
[11:29] <MetaBookfoziS> it causes errors when i 'make all'
[11:29] <mineur> I read that some combinations are indeed slow on some cards
[11:29] <burepe> I set azureus to minimize to task bar but it just disappeared.  Anyone know how to fix that?
[11:29] <asfalt> mineur even the burn effect is very slow/crappy looking on my notebook intel card, yet on bros ati desktop it runs fine
[11:30] <gourdin> asfalt: i run on a gma 950 and the burn effect runs just fine
[11:30] <ryan9939> what is the "burn effect"?
[11:30] <asfalt> have you seen it on a faster card?
[11:31] <jamesbrose> has anybody here used apt-get mirror, and that could help me with a question?
[11:31] <gourdin> asfalt: nop
[11:31] <TtyS2> should i use iwconfig instead of ifconfig when trying to start ath0 in cli?
[11:31] <gourdin> but it really isn"t slow
[11:31] <mineur> it just burns up your window :)
[11:31] <mineur> jamesbrose: what's the prob?
[11:32] <jamesbrose> mineur, basically is there a log file that can tell me how far its got downloading for the first time, and how long rougly would it take on a 10mb/s connection?
[11:33] <mineur> not that I know off
[11:33] <circassia> hello @ all
[11:34] <circassia> :( i have a nooby question...i've started ubuntu with vmware
[11:34] <jamesbrose> mineur, do you know roughly how long it would take?
[11:34] <circassia> but i don't know the passwort..he is asking for a password and username
[11:34] <bimberi> circassia: ubuntu / ubuntu ?
[11:35] <circassia> really??
[11:35] <circassia> omg i will try it
[11:35] <mineur> hmmm jamesbrose, nope I'm on a faster line :)
[11:35] <mineur> and it depends on the serverload
[11:35] <circassia> :D omg
[11:35] <mineur> but I guess not very long
[11:35] <circassia> omg it rally has worked
[11:35] <bimberi> circassia: cool :)
[11:36] <bimberi> circassia: it was a guess, although 'ubuntu' is the username on the LiveCDs
[11:36] <harm_> can someone help me add a FTP user?
[11:36] <circassia> thank ya bimberi :D
[11:36] <bimberi> circassia: np :)
[11:36] <circassia> i tried all the "root" stuff like in routers
[11:36] <circassia> but didn't work
[11:37] <harm_> circassia did u install it from scrathc?
[11:37] <circassia> you mean scratch disc?
[11:38] <kdc1956> morning
[11:38] <harm_> circassia no i mean did u install it from a install dics u downloaded?
[11:38] <harm_> or did u get it from ubuntu.com?
[11:38] <circassia> i can not remember the link, but it was a link on vmware.com
[11:38] <circassia> torrent link
[11:39] <harm_> yah well read the .nfo file
[11:39] <harm_> start > Execute > notepad path/to/.nfo
[11:40] <kblin> hi
[11:40] <circassia> ahh okey thanks will do it
[11:40] <kblin> how would I get a script to check if it's running on ubuntu? In suse, i
[11:40] <croatoan> ok...followed the guide for installing ati driver
[11:41] <harm_> can someone help me add a FTP user?
[11:41] <kblin> 'd look for /etc/suse_version, in fedora it's /etc/fedora_version
[11:41] <croatoan> and now it says Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:41] <kblin> is there an /etc/ubuntu_version in ubuntu?
[11:41] <croatoan> and after running fglxrinfo it says i have some mesa drivers installed
[11:42] <noobcook> has ubuntu got an Octal to PT converter?
[11:42] <asfalt> mineur so any idea how i can go about the install?
[11:43] <jandante> looks like the ubuntu servers are very crowded :s (ubuntu feisty repositories)
[11:43] <jandante> are these servers also localized
[11:43] <harm_> idk
[11:43] <harm_> can someone help me add a FTP user?
[11:43] <jandante> i mean can i put http://be.xxxxxxx
[11:43] <jandante> for repositories
[11:43] <harm_> jandante get a mirror
[11:44] <asfalt> i can't install with this lcd sigh, help!
[11:44] <jandante> where can i find a list with mirrors harm_?
[11:44] <asfalt> can i reconfig the installer/live cd xorg before it starts?
[11:44] <jamesbrose> has anybody here used apt-get mirror, and can tell me roughly how long it would take to download all the packages?
[11:45] <cafuego_> jamesbrose: It's a lot of gigabyes.
[11:45] <bimberi> kblin: no, but there is the output of 'lsb_release -i'
[11:45] <croatoan> who was the guy who posted the link to the wiki for installing the ATI driver?
[11:45] <circassia> see you bro's, leaving
[11:45] <jamesbrose> cafuego_ 13 to be exact..
[11:46] <kblin> bimberi: what does ubuntu output for that?
[11:46] <cafuego_> jamesbrose: Well, download that by your connection speed
[11:46] <cafuego_> ah, divide
[11:46] <bimberi> kblin: "Distributor ID: Ubuntu" (w/o the quotes)
[11:47] <ssddss> Hi, one question: i have installed apache2 in my computer but, don't know why, php files are not processed (yes, i have installed apache php module as well). Now i've delete all apache packages, reinstalled them, and now even the html welcome page doesn't work. What could be wrong?
[11:47] <harm_> jandante google mate :)
[11:47] <jandante> keej :)
[11:47] <burepe> Anyone know anything about azureus crashing?
[11:47] <ssddss> (yes, i've executed apache2 restart
[11:47] <ssddss> )
[11:47] <jamesbrose> cafuego_ my connection speed is 10mb/s
[11:47] <kblin> thanks
[11:47] <harm_> ssddss idk but an easy fix would be to install a LAMP server get iso from ubuntu.com
[11:48] <jandante> allright gossip now knows MSN
[11:48] <ssddss> harm_, yes, but installing it from "scratch" should work
[11:48] <jandante> looks like feisty might be very edgy :p
[11:48] <harm_> ssddss did u restart apache2?
[11:49] <ssddss> harm_, i said yes, i have restarted it
[11:49] <LookTj> ssddss: have you tried lighttpd yet?
[11:49] <ssddss> i said i did, sorry
[11:49] <bpettert> hello
[11:49] <ssddss> LookTj, i'm interested in using php
[11:50] <LookTj> install php5-cgi
[11:50] <LookTj> for using php5
[11:50] <cafuego_> jamesbrose: full duplex?
[11:50] <bpettert> watsup?
[11:50] <jamesbrose> cafuego_ nope
[11:50] <LookTj> ssddss: i even wrote a howto
[11:50] <LookTj> http://looktj.servehttp.com/blog/?p=6
[11:50] <jamesbrose> cafuego_ Well, i don't know, its with NTL :)
[11:50] <ssddss> LookTj, it is already installed
[11:50] <cafuego_> jamesbrose: So you're looking at ~ 600Kb/sec
[11:51] <jamesbrose> cafuego_ Yeah
[11:51] <cafuego_> jamesbrose: I think you're probably better off just installing as neede,d and not downloading 6GB of stuff you'll never use.
[11:51] <LookTj> ssddss: so you gonna use apache instead?
[11:51] <ssddss> LookTj, well, let's see how lighttpd works, thanks for the how-to :)
[11:52] <ssddss> however, it should be nice to use apache. It should work, i have installed it other times
[11:52] <ssddss> in ubuntu <= breezy, fedora and other distros
[11:53] <LookTj> ssddss: no problem.
[11:53] <LookTj> ssddss The only thing i haven't messed with is postfix and bind9
[11:53] <kblin> bimberi: thanks alot :)
[11:54] <bimberi> kblin: yw :)
[11:54] <ssddss> LookTj, i don't think i'll use both
[11:54] <asfalt> how annoying it seems my solution is to dload the alternate cd/iso/burn it to get a text installer
[11:54] <LookTj> ssddss: good idea
[11:54] <RamiKassab> hey guys I'm trying to install gaim with XScreenSaver extension enabled however it's unable to configure properly for that... I have the xscreensaver package installed though. Does anyone know how to get this functioning properly?
[11:55] <LookTj> ssddss: I've tried both, so I prefer lighttpd ;)
[11:55] <asfalt> hmm btw every other user would have quit about 30 mins ago if this happened with their lcd screen during the standard install
[11:55] <RamiKassab> someone told me that the xscreensaver extension needs to be enabled in gaim in order for gaim to detect idle status properly
[11:56] <Li`lEndian> !dhcpd
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dhcpd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:56] <LookTj> Ramikassab: why would you want idle status
[11:56] <mineur> asfalt, how is it going?
[11:57] <LookTj> !dhcp | li`lendian
[11:57] <ubotu> dhcp: DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0pl5-19.4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 108 kB, installed size 308 kB
[11:57] <kira_sama> hey guys - i'm encountering a really freak issue - when i attempt to boot the ubuntu 6.10 server cd, my pc doesn't want to boot it,
[11:57] <asfalt> mineur it isn't
[11:57] <kira_sama> i've also made sure that my boot order is correct,
[11:57] <ssddss> hey, LookTj, it works really fine, thank you :)
[11:57] <Li`lEndian> thank you, LookTj
[11:57] <mineur> set your BIOS to boot from cd's
[11:57] <kira_sama> mineur: did that - but what's odd is that if i disable my HD, and then try - then it boots.
[11:57] <LookTj> ssddss: no problem
[11:57] <mineur> kira_sama: are you sure you have a bootable cd?
[11:57] <asfalt> mineur it seems with the cd i have i cannot launch any kind of text based installer best i managed was a prompt
[11:58] <kira_sama> mineur: yep - pretty sure the CD's bootable.
[11:58] <LookTj> li`endian: it was just a spelling mistake :)
[11:58] <Li`lEndian> LookTj, isnt there a wiki link for DHCP server? thats actually what i was looking for.
[11:58] <ikonia> is the default runlevel for most users 2
[11:58] <mineur> asfalt: maybe you can set some bootparameters
[11:58] <RamiKassab> LookTj: well gaim goes into idle state on it's own and then eventually puts me into away mode (I have aim setup to forward IM's to my phone when I'm away) but if I'm actually using the comp, gaim wont properly detect that and still automatically puts me into away mode even though I'm actually on the comp so IMs still get forwarded to my phone. I need gaim to be able to detect when I'm physically on the comp to keep me in
[11:58] <RamiKassab> online mode without away
[11:58] <ikonia> I've just noticed that my laptop is running with X, networking etc etc and its run level is 2
[11:58] <kira_sama> mineur: also tried using the CD in  a virtual machine session and it worked there too.
[11:58] <ikonia> surly it should be 3 or 5
[11:58] <asfalt> and regardless of which resolution i select even 640x480x16 as soon as the orange bar gets near the end i get this "out of range" msg on screen, i can eve hear the logon/welcome sound play
[11:58] <asfalt> just can't see it
[11:59] <LookTj> li`lendian: I haven't found one yet
[11:59] <LookTj> li`lendian: IPCop(http://ipcop.org) is a dhcp/firewall server
[12:00] <paradoxx> what do I have to add to fstab to mount a fat32 partition with rw access?
[12:00] <kira_sama> mineur: huh - all of a sudden it's booting :P
[12:00] <ikonia> could someone running a full multi user system please check their default run level please
[12:00] <kira_sama> i think i need to inject meself with more caffeiene!
[12:00] <LookTj> li`endian: I don't know any howtos for a ubuntu dhcp server since i'm behind a router
[12:00] <mineur> or buy a new cd driver :p
[12:01] <LookTj> ramikassab: I only use Jabber, So I wouldn't know
[12:01] <j0lliyo> i have a problem, whenever i try to run wine, it restarts the x server... anyone else have this problem?
[12:01] <mineur> asfalt: try adding to the bootparameters: vga=ask
[12:01] <LookTj> ramikassab: but i think i know the plugin
[12:01] <paradoxx> what do I have to add to fstab to mount a vfat partition automatically please
[12:01] <asfalt> mineur cool will try that now
[12:02] <paradoxx> !fstab
[12:02] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[12:02] <paradoxx> !Partitions
[12:02] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[12:02] <asfalt> mineur i was about to quit and go play games :D i even got my notebook going to talk here while i try to install ;) ironically i am using ubuntu now already :D
[12:03] <RamiKassab> LookTj: does Ubuntu have a hacked XScreensaver? Gaim obviously can't detect that it's installed and available so when I configure it wont locate the extension
[12:03] <LookTj> ramikassab: tools > Plugins > check I'dle Mak'er
[12:03] <mineur> if that doesn't help you further, I have no clue
[12:04] <mineur> but then again I'm not an expert
[12:04] <LookTj> ramikassab: and iconify on away
[12:04] <eXistenZ> RamiKassab, men ween ente Rami?
[12:04] <LookTj> ramikassab: either one of the two
[12:04] <mettao87> hi
[12:04] <mineur> hi
[12:05] <RamiKassab> LookTj: this plugin just let's me hand configure my away status but just like any IM client, I want it to automatically detect when I'm on the comp
[12:05] <RamiKassab> eXistenZ: men ebnan, wa inta?
[12:06] <eXistenZ> RamiKassab, falasteen
[12:06] <asfalt> mineur trying that now and doing 'scan' 1st :) see if it find the happy mode if not will set manually
[12:06] <RamiKassab> eXistenZ: wana falasteeni kaman
[12:06] <RamiKassab> eXistenZ: nus nus
[12:06] <eXistenZ> RamiKassab, Aha, 7elo! ween saken?
[12:06] <asfalt> 80x25 collumns with vesa
[12:06] <LookTj> ramikassab: i'm sorry, but i haven't found plugins like that
[12:06] <asfalt> should work
[12:07] <mineur> normally :)
[12:07] <asfalt> the orange bar is growing, there is the sound click i prepare for "out of range"
[12:07] <RamiKassab> LookTj: damn well Gaim supports the functionality natively but the XScreensaver extensions is required for it to work
[12:07] <asfalt> and ....
[12:07] <asfalt> YES
[12:07] <RamiKassab> eXistenZ: ana saken bi Oregon
[12:08] <mineur> you're getting somewhere? :)
[12:08] <asfalt> there is screen flicker, i can hear the boot sound/but there is no display
[12:08] <asfalt> out of range
[12:08] <mineur> damn
[12:08] <asfalt> awesome!
[12:08] <eXistenZ> RamiKassab, kef al 3eshe fel welayat?
[12:08] <mineur> well try video=vga16:off then this disables framebuffer... might also be a problem
[12:08] <asfalt> i give up for real for now 60 mins later googling + whinging here can't get it installed, will look later
[12:08] <mineur> if that doesn't work I'm really out of options :d
[12:08] <LookTj> eXistenZ: speak english in this channel :)
[12:09] <noobcook> hmm
[12:09] <noobcook> how do i use libswfdec0.3 ?
[12:09] <RamiKassab> eXistenZ: walahi kwayis, ween inta saken?
[12:09] <eXistenZ> RamiKassab, ana men 3arab al 48, ma3ay haweye isra2eleyye.
[12:09] <asfalt> mineur yes i am going to reboot to a commercial edition of a certain operating system and shoot some people up in 3d, oh well, now i have some spare hdd space i made for ubuntu partitions :)
[12:09] <eXistenZ> LookTj, sure :)
[12:10] <j0lliyo> does anyone else have a problem with wine restarting the x server when you try to run something with it? looks like i'm doing ctrl+alt+backspace when really i try to run winecfg
[12:11] <RamiKassab> eXistenZ: ana asif bas el arabi andi mkasar
[12:12] <atlas> hello
[12:12] <atlas> someone have a intel core 2 duo T5600 please?
[12:12] <RamiKassab> eXistenZ: ashan 3esh fell welayat
[12:12] <atlas> I really need help
[12:12] <paradoxx> !permission
[12:12] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[12:14] <burepe> The people on the #azureus support channel tell me the ubuntu package is buggy. Anyone heard anything like that?
[12:14] <burepe> and that I shouldn't use it
[12:15] <RamiKassab> just out of curiosity, do you guys think Gaim or Kopete is a better IM client?
[12:15] <jedrick> how can i install graphic driver?
[12:15] <RamiKassab> I currently use Gaim but would like to know what people think of Kopete
[12:15] <jedrick> how can i install graphic driver on my nvidia card?
[12:15] <atlas> hey ? :)
[12:15] <ssddss> vye
[12:15] <ssddss> bye
[12:15] <atlas> nobody can help me? nobody have a T5600
[12:16] <mineur> jedrick: follow these steps: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[12:16] <burepe> !azureus
[12:16] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[12:16] <jedrick> mineur: ok thnx
[12:17] <mineur> RamiKassab: I prefer Kopete
[12:17] <RamiKassab> mineur: have you use both?
[12:18] <RamiKassab> mineur: and why do you prefer Kopete? is it just because of a cleaner interface? more robust?
[12:19] <roxlu> hi all!
[12:19] <itsmabus> it is
[12:19] <roxlu> does someone knows if there is a package for "xulrunner" ?
[12:19] <mineur> it looks nicer for me, and yes I used gaim briefly
[12:19] <RamiKassab> mineur: do you use Gnome or KDE?
[12:20] <paradoxx> how do i add rw priveledges to myself?
[12:20] <paradoxx> for a folder
[12:20] <mineur> KDE
[12:20] <biatche> Someone mind to explain this about permissions. whats the difference between chmod 771 and 774 on a directory. I understand the first gives execute to world and the latter gives read. But what I don't understand is, doesn't it need to read if it has to execute? Talk about the web for instance. why is the +x flag necessary to enter the directory? is there something that has to be executed just to enter the directory? as for files, i do understand +x 
[12:20] <itsmabus> paradoxx: chmod +rw folder
[12:21] <itsmabus> folder being the name of the folder you want to change
[12:21] <mineur> the system needs to read the file to execute it... but you can't read it biatche
[12:21] <paradoxx> itsmabus: ty
[12:22] <mineur> *I think :)
[12:22] <roxlu> someone?
[12:22] <Amaranth> !ohmy | mineur
[12:22] <ubotu> mineur: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:22] <Amaranth> roxlu: there isn't
[12:22] <mineur> ubotu: ?????
[12:22] <Amaranth> roxlu: in ubuntu packages that need gecko and friends depend on firefox
[12:23] <paradoxx> itsmabus: that dosen't work
[12:23] <roxlu> oke
[12:23] <k_vv> so how can I add one command to starting runlevel...? do I have to create my own script for it ?
[12:23] <Amaranth> mineur: oh, that's his nick
[12:23] <Amaranth> biatche: Please change your nick.
[12:23] <mineur> oh lol :)
[12:23] <biatche> is this offensive?
[12:24] <mineur> no but it might get users kicked :p
[12:24] <biatche> i can just leave.. other distros aren't so ridiculous.
[12:24] <biatche> good bye.
[12:24] <mineur> lol
[12:24] <mineur> omg
[12:24] <Amaranth> Good riddance then. :P
[12:24] <mineur> hehe
[12:25] <paradoxx> itsmabus: i'm trying to add rw priveledges to a partition i mount at boottime
[12:25] <Amaranth> paradoxx: mounting a windows partition and only root can write to it?
[12:25] <paradoxx> Amaranth: yes
[12:26] <itsmabus> paradoxx: change /etc/fstab so it mounts with rw
[12:26] <Amaranth> paradoxx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[12:26] <Li`lEndian> we can write to ntfs?
[12:26] <Amaranth> !ntfs
[12:26] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:26] <itsmabus> not reliably
[12:26] <Amaranth> !fuse
[12:26] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[12:27] <kauer> hi everyone. How do I reset the hotplug system short of rebooting? Every now and then my external USB drive doesn't get mounted automatically (it *always* unmounts automatically OK). It seems to have something to do with me turning the drive off while someone has it in use (read only, so no data danger).
[12:28] <paradoxx> Amaranth: I did that and it is still mounting with root only priv
[12:28] <paradoxx> Amaranth: this is the fstab entry /dev/sda4	/media/e	vfat    defaults,rw,auto,user,sync  	0 	0
[12:29] <Amaranth> paradoxx: umask=0000
[12:29] <Amaranth> iocharset=utf8,umask=0000
[12:29] <Amaranth> you want that too
[12:29] <kauer> ps - it mounts OK manually, by the way
[12:30] <Amaranth> paradoxx: /dev/sda4 /media/e vfat    defaults,rw,auto,user,sync,iocharset=utf8,umask=0000    0  0
[12:32] <DarkLinux> tell me how to add the postinst file to the deb package
[12:32] <paradoxx> Amaranth: that didn't work..
[12:32] <bayziders> Is there a way to turn off my modems firewall?
[12:33] <mineur> read your modems manual?
[12:33] <bayziders> It didnt come with one T_T
[12:34] <mineur> look for it on the net then? :)
[12:34] <lotacus> nice
[12:34] <lotacus> I think i'm in love with ubuntu and beryl. heh
[12:34] <Amaranth> paradoxx: how didn't it work?
[12:34] <paradoxx> Amaranth: it is still mounted root only
[12:34] <Amaranth> that doesn't seem possible
[12:35] <lotacus> anways.. where is the correct location to install adobe flash 9 plugin for firefox?
[12:35] <bayziders> I have and cant find it>> I cant host games on my xbox its telllin me theres a firewall blocking it and im going insane
[12:35] <jedrick> is there any other mp3 player other than xmms and amarok?
[12:35] <lotacus> i've tried several locations and the browser still says it requires the plugin
[12:35] <Amaranth> !seveas | lotacus
[12:35] <ubotu> lotacus: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:35] <Amaranth> lotacus: that has flash9 packages
[12:35] <lotacus> oh nice
[12:35] <paradoxx> Amaranth: and for some reason it won't allow me to do chown or chmod
[12:36] <Amaranth> paradoxx: of course not, that filesystem doesn't support those
[12:36] <paradoxx> Amaranth: oh ok...
[12:36] <Amaranth> paradoxx: you do know that you have to umount and then mount again after you edit /etc/fstab, right?
[12:36] <mineur> jedrick: there are lots of mp3 players
[12:36] <jedrick> mineur: what mp3 player do you recommend?
[12:36] <Lynoure> jedrick: yes, many, try  apt-cache search audio player  for starters (though it shows some plugins and stuff too)
[12:37] <paradoxx> Amaranth: with sudo umount -a?
[12:37] <jedrick> Lynoure: ok thnx
[12:37] <Lynoure> jedrick: the joy of free software is that you can try them all, if you wish. :)
[12:37] <mineur> I use Amarok... :)
[12:37] <roxlu> where can I find the mp3 codecs?
[12:37] <Amaranth> paradoxx: sudo umount /media/e && mount /media/e
[12:37] <jedrick> :)
[12:37] <paradoxx> Amaranth: it tells me that /dev, /sys, /boot is busy
[12:37] <Amaranth> paradoxx: don't umount with -a
[12:37] <bayziders> Do any of you guys ahve a 360, and gears? go try and host a game so i can know it is not just me
[12:38] <Amaranth> paradoxx: the unmounts every filesystem
[12:38] <Amaranth> paradoxx: bad thing to do
[12:38] <mineur> roxlu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3
[12:38] <Lynoure> jedrick: I personally like Amarok in KDE and Quod Libet in Gnome
[12:39] <roxlu> mineur: why aren't they installed by default?
[12:39] <paradoxx> Amaranth: ok I unmounted and remounted and same problem
[12:39] <mineur> licence stuff :)
[12:40] <jedrick> Lynoure: ok i'll try quod libet. haven't tried that yet :)
[12:40] <mineur> but amarok for example doesn't require any additional stuff to be installed
[12:40] <Amaranth> mineur: sure it does
[12:40] <Amaranth> mineur: libxine is split into 3 packages
[12:41] <apokryphos> it needs the libxine-extracodecs
[12:41] <apokryphos> (see the kubuntu.org FAQ)
[12:41] <mineur> Doesn't Amarok install it all by itself?
[12:41] <Amaranth> no
[12:42] <Amaranth> it might pop up a dialog asking if you want to do it, can't remember
[12:42] <Amaranth> but everything in ubuntu will do that in feisty
[12:42] <roxlu> Amaranth: yeah i think so.
[12:42] <Amaranth> well, everything using gstreamer
[12:42] <mineur> according to the faq it already does that in edgy :)
[12:43] <paradoxx> Amaranth: not sure what to do at ths point, should I just try a reboot?
[12:43] <bayziders> With this new linux thing for the ps3 i am seriously considering buying it.
[12:44] <croatoan> how do i gain permissions to change files ?
[12:44] <roxlu> hmmm I keep getting "do you want to install mp3 support"
[12:44] <ikonia> alecjw: do you have a moment please
[12:44] <Amaranth> paradoxx: i dunno
[12:44] <croatoan> i'm trying to change the xorg.conf file
[12:45] <croatoan> says i do not have the necessary permissions
[12:45] <Amaranth> !sudo | croatoan
[12:45] <bayziders> any of yuo guys exicted bout that/?
[12:45] <ubotu> croatoan: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:45] <paradoxx> Amaranth: ok, I'll brb
[12:45] <croatoan> i'm not running it from the terminal
[12:45] <croatoan> should i be?
[12:45] <Amaranth> bayziders: the PS3 is an overpriced piece of garbage
[12:45] <Amaranth> croatoan: yeah, you have to
[12:45] <alecjw> ikonia: yes?
[12:45] <roxlu> well.... trying a relogin
[12:46] <bayziders> yeah, but wewill see where this hole linux thing goes with it
[12:46] <Amaranth> bayziders: no where, linux is running in a virualized environment
[12:47] <jonasclemens> hi there
[12:47] <bayziders> owwch can ubntu wirght to nfts?
[12:47] <marlun> When playing flash files with sound on my laptop with Ubuntu theres an echo added to it, is this a known problem? =)
[12:47] <alecjw> !ntfs-3g | bayziders
[12:47] <ubotu> bayziders: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[12:48] <bayziders> ktnx alecjw?
[12:48] <croatoan> ok so how do i edit the file from the console?
[12:48] <Amaranth> croatoan: you can run 'gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf' from the console
[12:48] <mineur> sudo nano file
[12:48] <Amaranth> it'll open a nice GUI for you to edit with
[12:49] <jonasclemens> there is a dependancy problem with a package on the universe section of ubuntu 6.10. how can i file it so it can be resolved?
[12:50] <lotacus> awe, the Seveas only has i386 and not AMD64
[12:50] <Amaranth> lotacus: flash is x86 only
[12:50] <apokryphos> lotacus: if you donate an amd64 box to him I'm sure he'll build amd64 packs for you ;-)
[12:50] <Amaranth> jonasclemens: what package?
[12:51] <croatoan> Amaranth: any idea why fglrxinfo shows that i am using Mesa OpenGL instead of ATI?
[12:51] <jonasclemens> cinepaint (on universe) depends on libgutenprintui1-1
[12:51] <lotacus> nah. 9 beta I thought was for x64
[12:51] <Amaranth> croatoan: What video card do you have?
[12:51] <alecjw> ikonia: what is it?
[12:51] <croatoan> ATI X800 Pro
[12:52] <EnsignRedshirt> I just (finally) upgraded from breezy to dapper.  What is the "best" way to get flash working in firefox?
[12:52] <jonasclemens> version 2-1 of libgutenprint is available, but not 1-1
[12:52] <lotacus> I guess that's why FF won't load the plugin.
[12:52] <Amaranth> croatoan: glxinfo | grep direct
[12:52] <paradoxx> Amaranth: It didn't work... I'm not sure what to do at this point
[12:52] <lotacus> man
[12:52] <Amaranth> paradoxx: neither am i
[12:52] <hansi0815> hello ! how can i get a list of all installed packages ?
[12:52] <Amaranth> lotacus: 9 is still x86 only
[12:52] <lotacus> that's just bunk
[12:52] <Amaranth> lotacus: flash's vm is not 64-bit safe
[12:52] <Amaranth> they need to redo large chunks of it
[12:52] <Amaranth> like the memory management
[12:52] <EnsignRedshirt> hansi0815: The GUI way is: run Synaptic, and then click on the "S" heading.
[12:53] <lotacus> what about open source?
[12:53] <Amaranth> lotacus: none of the free flash players are close to real use
[12:53] <lotacus> I had one plug-in but I forget the name, it loaded it, but didn't really do a whole lot to display the content on the webpage
[12:53] <apokryphos> hansi0815: dpkg -l
[12:53] <lotacus> okie
[12:53] <croatoan> Amaranth: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1425/
[12:54] <Ankit> How to add the link in repository ?
[12:54] <Amaranth> jonasclemens: It's fixed in feisty, that's about the best you can hope for.
[12:54] <Amaranth> jonasclemens: So you can request a backport or wait until april
[12:54] <jonasclemens> thanks, that was fast!
[12:54] <hansi0815> thx
[12:55] <Amaranth> croatoan: hrm
[12:55] <Amaranth> croatoan: i'm sorry, i don't have time to debug this
[12:55] <croatoan> no prob thx anyways
[12:55] <jonasclemens> i can fix it for myself, no prob...
[12:55] <alecjw> ikonia: you still there?
[12:56] <EnsignRedshirt> !flash
[12:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:56] <ZeckOwner> It is possible to install ubuntu from a usb memory stick right?
[12:56] <noobcook> bah whats the command to unpack a tarball again
[12:56] <noobcook> i always forget the variable
[12:56] <burepe> ZeckOwner: yeah but 2 gigs at the least
[12:56] <paradoxx> Amaranth: >.<
[12:56] <noobcook> tar -zfvx or something
[12:56] <ZeckOwner> !easyubuntu
[12:56] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[12:56] <alecjw> ZeckOwner: yes. you can install from and/or to a memory stick, but i dont know quite how
[12:56] <burepe> ZeckOwner: It is easy. just choose the usb during the install
[12:57] <ikonia> alecjw: two minutes please
[12:57] <BanditX_> hi
[12:58] <Mirro> how undelete a panel?!?!
[12:58] <Mirro> plz help
[12:59] <jerp> titled,  re: Live CD to USB disk .................. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1962252
[01:00] <lotacus> dammit. I can't even run cedega either. why did I d/l and install ubuntu x64 why oh why..
[01:00] <xipietotec> lotacus: you're a masochist?
[01:00] <lotacus> be nice to play bf2142 in linux
[01:00] <EnsignRedshirt> lotacus: Because you are brave and bold.
[01:00] <lotacus> heh
[01:01] <Mirro> ffs, sumbody knows here how to get back a just deleted panel?!?
[01:01] <lotacus> actually I think it's because everything is pretty much open-source, that it would have been easier to find 64 bit apps that otherwise wouldn't be available in windows.
[01:02] <jerp> lotacus, maybe subconsciously you wanted to try a chroot32 enviroment?
[01:02] <BanditX_> !sound
[01:02] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[01:02] <cappiz> is there an option for pick a task to be executed on logout ssh/x-session?
[01:03] <ZeckOwner> is it possible to download the .iso to my 5.10 live cd and then do a network install from there?
[01:03] <mr_daniel> hmm, how I can see which programs are using my alsa ?
[01:03] <virginijus> who knows how to run live cd on asus A6 laptop,after the line is Using hpet for high-res timesource and stops . I ll be thankfull :)
[01:03] <kevinh90> wow theres lots of questions and very few answers in here
[01:03] <cappiz> lsof | grep alsa
[01:03] <cappiz> ?
[01:03] <adaptr> ZeckOwner: if you have diskspace, yes
[01:03] <stefg> virginijus: you could try to add 'noapic nolapic' as boot parameters
[01:04] <burepe> !azureus
[01:04] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[01:04] <Lynoure> kevinh90: you can shift the balance by answering the ones you can :)
[01:04] <virginijus> how to access theese parameters ?
[01:04] <mr_daniel> cappiz this is useful for me
[01:04] <mr_daniel> but
[01:04] <ZeckOwner> adaptr: how would i do that and can you help me through the process?
[01:04] <EnsignRedshirt> I just upgraded to dapper, and I'm trying to get flash working in firefox.  It worked in breezy.  I installed the package flashplugin-nonfree, but still says "Additional plugins are required..." at a sight that I was able to view in breezy.
[01:04] <mr_daniel> there is also a method with '...snd'
[01:04] <ZeckOwner> !easyubuntu
[01:04] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[01:05] <adaptr> ZeckOwner: erm... is there a reason you don't want to download the 6.10 cd ?
[01:05] <Lynoure> EnsignRedshirt: did you restart FF? :)
[01:05] <cappiz> mr_daniel, good?
[01:05] <ikonia> alecjw: sorry about that I was on the phone. Do you have a moment
[01:05] <ZeckOwner> adaptr: i cant find a disc that is mine and is fre
[01:05] <mr_daniel> cappiz yes, ist's ok
[01:05] <alecjw> ikonia: yep
[01:05] <Lynoure> EnsignRedshirt: I think it only looks for plugins in the startup, but I could be wrong
[01:05] <ZeckOwner> adaptr: and i can upgrade after i install
[01:05] <ikonia> alecjw: can I drop you a pm please as I don't want to discuss it in channel
[01:05] <EnsignRedshirt> Lynoure: Yes, a couple times.
[01:06] <alecjw> ikonia: ok
[01:06] <cappiz> then, is there an option for pick a task to be executed on logout ssh/x-session?
[01:06] <adaptr> ZeckOwner: you can't find a what ?
[01:06] <ZeckOwner> a blank cd
[01:06] <davidwinter> hi all
[01:07] <stefg> !install | ZeckOwner
[01:07] <ubotu> ZeckOwner: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[01:07] <davidwinter> can anyone recommend a program to rip DVD's? I've heard of k9copy, but isn't that for KDE? Is there something similar for gnome?
[01:07] <adaptr> ZeckOwner: then order it ?
[01:07] <ZeckOwner> stefg: ive looked all over the site
[01:07] <Lynoure> EnsignRedshirt: and does about:plugins say anything about Flash plugin being there?
[01:07] <ZeckOwner> adaptr: no money, mom wont give address out
[01:08] <jerp> davidwinter, I think there is acidrip
[01:08] <Azul> a blank cd don't cost much
[01:08] <roxlu> hi all I've installed "jEdit" but when I try to start it .. it fails.. someone who has an idea what that can be? (I'm running beryl, could that be an problem?)
[01:08] <stefg> ZeckOwner: even the 'advanced' methods? There are severl options without a CD
[01:08] <adaptr> ZeckOwner: and she won't even give you a bank CD ?
[01:08] <ZeckOwner> Azul: but i have no money at all
[01:08] <jerp> which uses mencoder
[01:08] <adaptr> ZeckOwner: get adopted :)
[01:08] <ZeckOwner> stefg: havnt seen any
[01:08] <ZeckOwner> lol
[01:08] <adaptr> !floppy
[01:08] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[01:08] <ZeckOwner> oops
[01:08] <stefg> ZeckOwner: then you might want to read again
[01:08] <adaptr> noooo... bah
[01:08] <ZeckOwner> stefg: i dont have any
[01:08] <Azul> ZeckOwner, so what's you problem now? you need money?
[01:08] <ZeckOwner> i mistyped
[01:09] <Mirro> can i somehow exit ubuntu without saving changes from this session?
[01:09] <Azul> go to #money
[01:09] <ZeckOwner> Azul: i dont want money
[01:09] <EnsignRedshirt> Lynoure: update... I clicked on the "Click here to install plugin" (or whatever it said) in Firefox, and that appears to have installed the plugin--now it works.
[01:09] <ZeckOwner> Azul: you cant read my private messages
[01:09] <stefg> Mirro: powerbutton?
[01:09] <ZeckOwner> thank you very much
[01:09] <Azul> or #makemoney
[01:09] <adaptr> Mirro: disable session changes, then logout
[01:09] <Azul> lol
[01:09] <ZeckOwner> stfu
[01:09] <Azul> no i can't
[01:09] <adaptr> #daft-piramid-scheme-of-the-month, more like
[01:09] <Lynoure> EnsignRedshirt: That's good :)
[01:09] <Azul> !rtfm | ZeckOwner
[01:09] <ubotu> ZeckOwner: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[01:09] <Mirro> adaptr: disable where?
[01:10] <adaptr> Mirro: in the session properties
[01:10] <davidwinter> thanks jerp, I'll look into acidrip
[01:10] <Mirro> adaptr: plz where exactly :)
[01:10] <ZeckOwner> Words like Azul are not welcome in this channel. Period
[01:10] <adaptr> Mirro: look through your menus, exactly
[01:10] <ZeckOwner> names*
[01:10] <apokryphos> ZeckOwner: stop
[01:10] <jhasse> whenever i start something with opengl, my xserver restarts. Can someone help me?
[01:10] <adaptr> ZeckOwner: language please, and a bit of mature behaviour
[01:11] <adaptr> jhasse: what does glxinfo say ?
[01:11] <Mirro> adaptr: no menus, i just deleted my panel )
[01:11] <stefg> jhasse: hardware details and/or  Logs?
[01:11] <adaptr> Mirro: nice one !
[01:11] <Mirro> adaptr: that's the reason
[01:11] <adaptr> Mirro: gnome-session-properties
[01:11] <adaptr> duh
[01:12] <jhasse> arg
[01:12] <noobcook> whats a good FTP connection utility for ubuntu?
[01:12] <jhasse> glxinfo crashed my xserver
[01:12] <apokryphos> ubotu: ftp
[01:12] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[01:12] <adaptr> jhasse: then paste your xorg.0.log somewhere
[01:12] <jhasse> What was the other thing i should try?
[01:13] <jhasse> kk
[01:13] <Mirro> adaprt: automatically save changes to session was unchecked
[01:13] <adaptr> Mirro: okay, then you're already set
[01:13] <Mirro> adaprt: i'm fuckd
[01:13] <adaptr> Mirro: also look through the menu when logging in, it also has session options
[01:13] <adaptr> Mirro: if you say so
[01:13] <adaptr> I wouldn't presume
[01:14] <Rprp> How can i install a theme?
[01:14] <Mirro> adaprt: session options... will they help?
[01:14] <jhasse> adaptr: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/6675/
[01:14] <stefg> !themes
[01:14] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[01:14] <jerp> jhaig, you might find better luck in #ubuntu-glx or #Beryl
[01:15] <LinTux> I installed the Edubuntu theme and removed it, but I still get the Edubuntu bootup screen, how can I change it back.
[01:15] <jerp> sorry, jhasse .... you might find better luck in #ubuntu-glx or #Beryl
[01:15] <EnsignRedshirt> Mirro: Isn't there a command something like gnome-panel-* ?
[01:15] <EnsignRedshirt> Mirro: gnome-panel.  I
[01:15] <Rprp> !changethemes
[01:15] <ubotu> [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[01:15] <EnsignRedshirt> oops
 i don't know, that's y i ask
[01:15] <jhasse> jerp, k
[01:16] <Mirro> EnsignRedshirt: i tried this already
[01:16] <bimberi> !usplash | LinTux, parts of this method should fix that
[01:16] <ubotu> LinTux, parts of this method should fix that: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[01:16] <jhasse> jerp: #ubuntu-glx is empty
[01:16] <stefg> jhasse: you are using one of the nvidia beta drivers... get a sable one
[01:16] <Mirro> EnsignRedshirt: it detects lower panel and goes off
[01:16] <stefg> *stable
[01:17] <roxlu> where is the java awt toolkit?
[01:17] <roxlu> (can't find it in the packagemanager0
[01:17] <bayziders> How do I make it so the windows dont appear on the bottomtask bar?
[01:17] <ZeckOwner> is it possible to make it so 5.10 installs the live cd updates to my actual harddrive?
[01:17] <jerp> sorry, it's #ubuntu-xgl
[01:17] <EnsignRedshirt> Mirro: So you ran gnome-panel?  That's the only thing I can suggest.
[01:17] <Mirro> EnsignRedshirt: ok
[01:18] <stefg> ZeckOwner: you could install Breezy, then upgrade to dapper (and then to edgy, if you feel like it)
[01:18] <jhasse> stefg: Do you know how i can deinstall the nvidia driver or is it not necessary?
[01:18] <roxlu> someone?
[01:18] <bimberi> bayziders: right-click on the grid of dots to the left of the windowlist and select Remove from Panel
[01:19] <bayziders> bimberi ; thanks Time to p imp out ubuntu =] 
[01:19] <stefg> !pm ZeckOwner
[01:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pm ZeckOwner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:19] <stefg> !pm | ZeckOwner
[01:19] <ubotu> ZeckOwner: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[01:19] <Kopfgeldjaeger> hello. can i add programms to my live-cd iso image? i mean, i get into the chroot and make "apt-get install", does that work?
[01:20] <bimberi> !uck | Kopfgeldjaeger
[01:20] <ubotu> Kopfgeldjaeger: UCK is a tool that helps you customizing official Ubuntu Live CDs (including Kubuntu/Xubuntu and Edubuntu) to your needs. See http://uck.sourceforge.net/
[01:20] <linux_user400354> ubuntu has crapped on my computer when i tried to install it. http://chris1.myftp.org/~chris/ubuntu_edgy_amd64
[01:20] <ZeckOwner> wtf? i did ask it to the channel
[01:20] <ZeckOwner> and you sent me a pm, so i sent one back
[01:20] <kenthomson> Hello!
[01:20] <Azul> crapped?
[01:20] <mixo8114> hi
[01:21] <stefg> ZeckOwner: Did I? can't remember.. anyway, wasn't meant angry, just as a hint
[01:21] <kenthomson> Will someone please tell me where is "/etc/inittab" file in Ubuntu? I don't see that file to configure my run levels. Or is it called something else in Ubuntu? Can someone help me find it?
[01:21] <ZeckOwner> i know, sry, im in a bad mood
[01:21] <ZeckOwner> thnx to Azul
[01:21] <Kopfgeldjaeger> /etc/rcX or so? ken
[01:21] <kenthomson> stefg, azureus in the edgy repo is badly BADLY broken :(. when are they going to do something?
[01:22] <Azul> kenthomson, i never had any problems when i installed it from the repos
[01:22] <stefg> kenthomson: that's universe... i think it won't be fixed,only in Feisty (hopefully)
[01:22] <Kopfgeldjaeger> yeah
[01:22] <kenthomson> Kopfgeldjaeger, rc, rc.local, rcS, Which one is it/
[01:22] <Kopfgeldjaeger> ken is right
[01:23] <kenthomson> stefg, Who put the broken version IN THAT REPO, in the first place? :)
[01:23] <kenthomson> Azul, do a google search for "azureus edgy" and you will get the problems that i am talking about :)
[01:23] <stefg> kenthomson: and there are more severe issues with edgy would need fixing first. I
[01:23] <kenthomson> Anyone else where is the /etc/inittab file in Ubuntu?
[01:24] <kenthomson> stefg, as in....?
[01:24] <Azul> kenthomson, opps, i missed the edgy part
[01:24] <Kopfgeldjaeger> azureus doesnt work for me,too
[01:24] <Kopfgeldjaeger> java errors
[01:24] <ZeckOwner> kenthomson: if there werent, you would be the only one here
[01:24] <kenthomson> Kopfgeldjaeger, correct!
[01:24] <kenthomson> ZeckOwner, :)
[01:25] <kenthomson> Kopfgeldjaeger, go to azureus.sourceforge.net and download the latest verion (it was released only yesterday) and you should be fine!
[01:25] <stefg> kenthomson: i'm tired ranting about real stupid bugs in edgy... just use dapper and wait for feisty. Get azureus from sourceforget meanwhile
[01:25] <kenthomson> stefg, yeah i got it
[01:25] <kenthomson> stefg, is edgy really stupid? :(
[01:25] <kenthomson> stefg, where can i find a bug list for edgy?
[01:26] <stefg> kenthomson: Launchpad... but this only half of the truth
[01:26] <kenthomson> stefg, wheres the other half?
[01:26] <noobcook> can i install SAP / R3 on ubuntu free of charge?
[01:26] <kenthomson> stefg, so you don't consider EDGY to be one of the best releases of Ubuntu? I never had any problems which couldn't be solved by doing some research, though
[01:26] <Azul> noobcook, is SAP / R3 free of charge?
[01:27] <stefg> in blogs and forums... google is your friend... BTW  is it so difficult to acceppt that edgy is what it says on the box? Dapper runs fine
[01:27] <noobcook> Azul: im not sure
[01:27] <kenthomson> stefg, :)
[01:27] <noobcook> u can evaluate it for free but i just need the libs
[01:27] <bayziders> Wow my computer is so much faster running linux then windows lolz
[01:27] <kenthomson> stefg, People like to be current with the latest version
[01:27] <kenthomson> bayziders, please remove that "wow", its gottu be, otherwise its not running linux :)
[01:28] <kenthomson> stefg, tried fiesty?
[01:28] <Azul> noobcook, is it a winders program?
[01:28] <noobcook> Azul: Checking for SAP/R3 (librfc/saprfc.h) ...
[01:28] <noobcook>                                       ... NOT found, module sapr3 disabled
[01:29] <stefg> kenthomson: i use ubuntu since warty, and /try/ a lot... but for my everyday work i use my pimped dapper
[01:29] <kenthomson> stefg, "pimped" ?
[01:29] <stefg> customized
[01:29] <kenthomson> stefg, :)
[01:29] <kenthomson> stefg, Do you have beryl or compiz installed?
[01:30] <stefg> apokryphos: my girlfriend runs dapper as it comes
[01:30] <bayziders> kenthomson yeah srry bout that
[01:30] <linux_user400354> how am i ever going to get ubuntu installed when i keep getting these errors? http://chris1.myftp.org/~chris/ubuntu_edgy_amd64
[01:30] <linux_user400354> any help?
[01:30] <kenthomson> linux_user400354, you don't want to say EDGY and 64-bit in the same line. NEVER, thats a recipe for disaster
[01:31] <bayziders> http://feeblemind.tuxfamily.org/galerie/final/ubuntu-wallpaper/ubuntu-1280x1024.png I <3 this wallpaper for some reason
[01:31] <apokryphos> kenthomson: absolute rubbish
[01:31] <Azul> noobcook, i doubt that it's a free of charge program, you have to also look in their website for a linux version
[01:31] <kenthomson> apokryphos, ???
[01:31] <apokryphos> kenthomson: edgy runs fine on amd64s
[01:31] <linux_user400354> kenthomson: not possible to install 64 bit edgy?
[01:31] <apokryphos> linux_user400354: of course it is
[01:32] <apokryphos> it's an officially supported architecture
[01:32] <kenthomson> apokryphos, it *runs, but then you go through HELL....it's largely unsupported by WINE, FLASH, ...others
[01:32] <linux_user400354> apokryphos: id like to know how. have you seen my pictures?
[01:32] <apokryphos> kenthomson: that's go nothing to do with edgy, but with the debian/ubuntu package management system
[01:32] <Azul> i hate them hells
[01:32] <apokryphos> which isn't biarch compatible
[01:33] <apokryphos> linux_user400354: did you check the md5sum before burning?
[01:33] <Kopfgeldjaeger> @kent: chroot :p
[01:33] <bayziders> kde>gnu?
[01:33] <isildur> moin
[01:33] <apokryphos> bayziders: huh?
[01:33] <linux_user400354> i can live without wine, flash, etc
[01:33] <bayziders> Is kde better then gnu?
[01:33] <kenthomson> apokryphos, whatever, but in the end the user suffers, right? So i advice against it
[01:33] <Kopfgeldjaeger> flash and so works all for me
[01:33] <Kopfgeldjaeger> 64-bit edgy
[01:33] <linux_user400354> apokryphos: yes, i downloaded it twice, tried the alternate installer, and used three different dvd burners/readers
[01:33] <Kopfgeldjaeger> just installed an 32-bit firefox (4 minutes)
[01:34] <kenthomson> bayziders, Is the Sun better than Pizza?
[01:34] <Azul> bayziders, kde has nothing to do with gnu
[01:34] <Haogen> people, where i can download ubuntu?
[01:34] <apokryphos> kenthomson: despite your "whatever", it means you weren't right. And no, the end user doesn't necessarily suffer. Perhaps you should be advising against ubuntu all together for amd64 users if you feel that way.
[01:34] <bayziders> Aren't they bouth desktop enviorments?
[01:34] <apokryphos> linux_user400354: downloading it more than once doesn't mean you checked the md5sum
[01:34] <Azul> Haogen, at the ubuntu website
[01:34] <jrib> Haogen: ubuntu.com click on "download"
[01:34] <apokryphos> bayziders: gnome is the desktop environment, not gnu.
[01:34] <kenthomson> apokryphos, that's a rather strong opinion, i despise against drilling it into my head
[01:34] <kenthomson> bayziders, you meant GNOME and KDE
[01:34] <apokryphos> what?
[01:35] <Azul> bayziders, no, only kde is a desktop environment
[01:35] <apokryphos> gnome is as well
[01:35] <Haogen> thanks
[01:35] <linux_user400354> apokryphos: yes, i did check the md5sum and then to be sure i had the iso fine, i downloaded and checked the md5sum again.
[01:35] <apokryphos> as is xfce
[01:35] <Azul> bayziders, and gnome
[01:35] <bayziders> yes I ment GNOME and KDE
[01:35] <apokryphos> linux_user400354: checked the md5sum and then compared it to what it should be?
[01:35] <Azul> apokryphos, xfce is a window manager, not a desktop environment
[01:35] <apokryphos> Azul: google -> xfce
[01:35] <kenthomson> Azul, than what is the desktop environment for xubuntu? FLUXBOX?
[01:36] <Azul> bayziders, it up to you to decide which is better
[01:36] <apokryphos> kenthomson: yes
[01:36] <apokryphos> *no
[01:36] <kenthomson> apokryphos, ?
[01:36] <bayziders> is xfcu a destop enviorment also?
[01:36] <Azul> kenthomson, none
[01:36] <kenthomson> apokryphos, tell me what is the Window manager in ubuntu?
[01:36] <kenthomson> Azul, NONE???
[01:36] <stefg> m,etacity
[01:36] <bayziders> xfce sorryu
[01:36] <Azul> bayziders, you can say that to a beginner, but no
[01:36] <linux_user400354> apokryphos: ive done all the common sense things. i checked it with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[01:37] <apokryphos> kenthomson: metacity, kwin are examples of window managers
[01:37] <erUSUL> bayziders: yes
[01:37] <stefg> linux_user400354: tried a 32bit version?
[01:37] <kenthomson> apokryphos, what does ubuntu run?
[01:37] <zOap> how can I get flash 9 on dapper?
[01:37] <apokryphos> kenthomson: metacity; kubuntu runs kwin (which is kde's window manager)
[01:37] <stefg> !flash9
[01:37] <ubotu> flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[01:37] <Azul> apokryphos, then i must be confused
[01:37] <erUSUL> kenthomson: gnome + metacity (but i have runned gnaome + sawmill another wm)
[01:37] <bayziders> Got another questin is there a way to get translucent windows?
[01:37] <apokryphos> Azul: perhaps
[01:37] <zOap> !tell zOap about backports
[01:37] <linux_user400354> stefg: downloading it now, but read on the forum that a guy was having a similar problem with the same motherboard and the 32 bit version did the same
[01:38] <jrib> bayziders: yes, you can use xgl or aiglx with compiz or beryl for example.  But these things are not yet considered stable
[01:38] <Azul> !windows | bayziders
[01:38] <ubotu> bayziders: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[01:38] <kenthomson> Azul, apokryphos, So Ubuntu is metacity+GNOME and xubuntu is <what>+FLUXBOX? Or am i wrong?
[01:38] <kenthomson> Azul, you got the wrong message
[01:39] <Kopfgeldjaeger> my gnome runs beryl (3d-windows manager) and emerald (window decorator)
[01:39] <Azul> kenthomson, xubuntu uses xfce as a desktop environment
[01:39] <kenthomson> Azul, window manager?
[01:39] <EnsignRedshirt> kenthomson: http://www.xubuntu.org/
[01:39] <stefg> linux_user400354: then i'm afraid that the standard Ubuntu-kernel options simply aren't right for your system. See if you can get it to install with all the fancy 'noapic nolapic acpi=off' no splash parameters and replace the kernel as sson as you can
[01:39] <kenthomson> EnsignRedshirt, Oh, that existed? :)
[01:39] <bayziders> >> I didnt need help with windows the os
[01:39] <apokryphos> kenthomson: not exactly like that. GNOME has a window manager, even though it's a DE itself. The window manager is metacity. XFCE has a window manager too, called XFwm
[01:39] <Azul> kenthomson, no, desktop environment
[01:39] <EnsignRedshirt> kenthomson: Still does.
[01:40] <Haogen> and how differs alternative version from desktop?
[01:40] <apokryphos> Haogen: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[01:40] <kenthomson> apokryphos, ok thats informative
[01:40] <Azul> bayziders, really, i doubt someone would know how windows can be transparent
[01:40] <Azul> bayziders, there is a program called glass i think
[01:40] <apokryphos> aeroglass
[01:41] <kenthomson> apokryphos, Azul, so when i use the term Desktop Environment (for GNOME/KDE/XFCE), than that includes a default window manager for each in the term/bundle/package itself, right?
[01:41] <Trixsey> Could someone be kind enough to re-package Azureus in the edgy repos?
[01:41] <Trixsey> It's pretty broken :p
[01:41] <stefg> haaha
[01:41] <apokryphos> kenthomson: of course. You can't draw windows, move them, bring up anything, pretty much, without a WM
[01:41] <Azul> kenthomson, pretty much, yeah
[01:41] <kenthomson> Trixsey, You are DAMN, right!
[01:41] <linux_user400354> stefg: to turn all of that off, i should click on something and then type in 'noapic nolapic acpi=off' but what about getting rid of the usplash? will this cause ubuntu to install differently so it always uses those options?
[01:42] <apokryphos> Trixsey: azureus is pretty CPU intensive; there are other alternatives.
[01:42] <apokryphos> ubotu: torrent
[01:42] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[01:42] <Trixsey> apokryphos, it's broken though
[01:42] <kenthomson> apokryphos, Azul, so a window manager handles windows, than what does a desktop environment do? (i think there is nothing else to a GUI except drawing windows)
[01:42] <stefg> linux_user400354: no... installation options are one thing, the boot options for the istalled system are another
[01:42] <Trixsey> I can only use Azureus and uTorrent
[01:42] <cappiz> then, is there an option for pick a task to be executed on logout ssh/x-session?
[01:42] <Trixsey> And uTorrent is a pain, since I'd have to run WINE too
[01:43] <kenthomson> Trixsey, when can you "only" use those?
[01:43] <apokryphos> kenthomson: a desktop environment provides a fuller experience. A not-so-bad description is here: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/ref-guide/s1-x-clients.html
[01:43] <erUSUL> kenthomson: provides the panels, the file manager (nautilus), set of APIS for aplications etc
[01:43] <kenthomson> apokryphos, goin' there
[01:43] <zOap> !tell zOap about lash9
[01:43] <kenthomson> erUSUL, ok
[01:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lash9 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:43] <zOap> !tell zOap about flash9
[01:43] <stefg> Trixsey: I took the broken package, download Azu from sourceforge and simply overwrte the broken azureus.jar in /usr/share/java with a working one from the souceforge package
[01:43] <linux_user400354> stefg: im not sure how to do get ubuntu to use those boot options when installing. do i type this somewhere? "noapic nolapic acpi=off" do i type that plus more to get the usplash disabled?
[01:43] <kenthomson> !flash 9
[01:43] <ubotu> flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[01:44] <Trixsey> kenthomson, a really quick torrent site (quick downloads) require either azureus or uTorrent
[01:44] <Azul> kenthomson, A DE provides icons, toolbars, applications, applets, and abilities like drag and drop.
[01:44] <Trixsey> stefg, thx!
[01:44] <kenthomson> Azul, ok
[01:44] <roxlu> someone where who uses Eclipse PDT ?
[01:44] <stefg> !boot | linux_user400354
[01:44] <ubotu> linux_user400354: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[01:44] <apokryphos> kenthomson: and http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Desktops
[01:44] <kenthomson> Trixsey, ok, so the tracker only allows those.
[01:45] <kenthomson> apokryphos, yeah, right!
[01:45] <Azul> kenthomson, for a normal user, i don't think it matters
[01:45] <kenthomson> Trixsey, Azureus despite all the bad name is good one!
[01:45] <kenthomson> erUSUL, May i ask why you prefer sawmill over metacity?
[01:46] <stefg> although azu is a terrible resource hog... uTorrent with wine works very well, too
[01:46] <zOap> what are the packages I need in backports to install flash 9 for firefox? Couldnt find any info...
[01:46] <zOap> I'm using dapper
[01:46] <stefg> !backports
[01:46] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[01:47] <zOap> stefg, I know, but what PACKAGES do I need to install for FLASH 9.?
[01:47] <erUSUL> kenthomson: i have recently swicht to metacity again, it was lighter in previus versions of ubuntu and has a better default behaviour imho
[01:47] <stefg> !info flash-nonfree
[01:47] <wayne_> I cannot start a terminal on Ubuntu. The desktop shows "starting terminal" on the task bar for about 10 seconds, and then the task terminates
[01:47] <ubotu> Package flash-nonfree does not exist in any distro I know
[01:47] <stefg> zOap: mom, i'll check
[01:47] <crazy_bus>  I'm using ubuntu with flashgot.  However Alt+Click wont download something.  Can anyone tell me to activate you (I have the option check in the flashgot prefs)
[01:47] <bimberi> zOap: flashplugin-nonfree
[01:48] <zOap> bimberi, thanks:)
[01:48] <M_Fatih> i can't reinstall my grub :( how can i do that? i changed my partition to hda2 to hda1 i changed my fstab, menu.lst and chrooted new partition, grub, root hd0,0 and setup hd0 it worked successfull but i starting up with old grub and old distro...
[01:48] <stefg> !flshplugin-nonfree
[01:48] <wayne_> Anyone heard of this problem (not able to start a terminal)
[01:48] <stefg> !flashplugin-nonfree
[01:48] <apokryphos> M_Fatih: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[01:48] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)
[01:50] <zOap> what plugin for firefox is video/x-ms-asf?
[01:50] <unclemike> i know some of the new distro's likefc6 and so are optimised for a P4..what ubuntu optimised fore
[01:50] <M_Fatih> apokryphos, i did it all but it didn't work :(
[01:51] <stefg> !generic | M_Fatih
[01:51] <ubotu> M_Fatih: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[01:51] <ananda> zOap: gess mozilla-mplayer, not sure.
[01:51] <zOap> ananda, ok, I'll try that. thanks:)
[01:52] <virginijus> i tried to live cd with apci=off it worked started to load but then there was some mistake on resolution , then apeared brown screen , touchpad was ok , but when ubuntu logo appears computer freezes completely
[01:53] <stefg> virginijus: so delete the 'splash' option from the boot parameters
[01:53] <vignesh> hi
[01:53] <vignesh> I use Xubuntu 6.10
[01:53] <kinematix> always a great surprise to realize I updated my kernel and forgot to reinstall nvidia drivers
[01:53] <vignesh> I want to make a fresh copy of my old win nt cd but I only have one cddrive.. I tried copying it to a folder and buring it to a cd but its not bootable.
[01:54] <kinematix> isn't it a way to have those modules reinstalled or copied or whatever when doing kernel updates?
[01:54] <stefg> !win | vignesh
[01:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:54] <stefg> !windows | vignesh
[01:54] <ubotu> vignesh: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[01:54] <erUSUL> vignesh: most burning programs do it automatically for you
[01:54] <vignesh> no one is replying in ##windows
[01:55] <vignesh> erUSUL: Xubuntu has Xfburn
[01:55] <vignesh> will that work
[01:55] <stefg> vignesh: h, so this qualifies you for a question in any other channel, or what?
[01:55] <virginijus> could u say , how to access this option , please ?
[01:55] <vignesh> The problem is I have only one cddrive
[01:55] <vignesh> stefg: I use Xubuntu so.. I ask here
[01:56] <kinematix> vignesh: you are installing ubuntu? or using ubuntu? you don't need that nt cd backup !
[01:56] <kinematix> :P
[01:56] <erUSUL> vignesh: just do 'sudo cat /dev/cdrom > win.iso' and then burn the iso as usual
[01:56] <kpel> hello
[01:56] <vignesh> erUSUL: Fine..
[01:56] <vignesh> Thanks
[01:57] <czr> which package to install to get the kernel sources for 6.10?
[01:57] <jrib> czr: linux-source
[01:57] <czr> jrib, thanks
[01:58] <stefg> czr: but you'll find that the surces differ from the actual running kernel...
[01:58] <Mirro> i have beryl 0.1.1, should i upgrade?
[01:58] <czr> stefg, er, what should I do to get the running kernel sources then? :-)
[01:58] <Mirro> i have beryl 0.1.1, should i upgrade?
[01:59] <stefg> czr: dump the ubuntu-kernel alltogether and roll your own
[01:59] <czr> stefg, the vanilla tree isn't too different then I assume?
[01:59] <auTONYmous> Poll: Which is better, CFQ or Anticipatory scheduler?
[01:59] <czr> auTONYmous, depends on your load. a lot of desktop users like cfq.
[02:00] <stefg> czr: i run 2.6.18 vanilla +ck patches without issues on k7
[02:00] <erUSUL> auTONYmous: cfq is the default scheduler
[02:00] <stefg> czr: look if you need squashfs support... that's an extra patch
[02:00] <auTONYmous> I've read some how-to's that suggest Anticipatory is better...I've been using CFQ
[02:00] <czr> stefg, but squashfs isn't required to run regular 6.10 install, right?
[02:01] <stefg> czr: no, only for the live CDs
[02:01] <erUSUL> auTONYmous: just try both and decide for yourself
[02:01] <bayziders> Is there a way to make a program that executs in the terminal and uses linux commands like cp and cd and stuff?
[02:01] <auTONYmous> meh...it's not that important
[02:01] <czr> stefg, as I thought. thanks
[02:02] <auTONYmous> I just wanted a couple of opinions
[02:02] <erUSUL> auTONYmous: echo cfq > /sys/block/hda/queue/scheduler will change the used scheduler for hda and so on....
[02:02] <jrib> bayziders: a shell script
[02:02] <czr> bayziders, google for "advanced bash scripting guide" :-)
[02:02] <bayziders> Thanks guys
[02:02] <auTONYmous> erUSUL: Now, THAT is useful info. Thanks!
[02:02] <czr> bayziders, or you can pretty much use any programming language as well
[02:02] <czr> bayziders, but I'd start with shells scripts.
[02:02] <erUSUL> auTONYmous: no problem
[02:02] <auTONYmous> er...wait. I took out all but CFQ in my current kernel
[02:03] <bayziders> czr will linux commands work in c? It is the only language that i have any knowledge of at all (out side of html of course)
[02:04] <czr> bayziders, yes. there are many techniques. easiest is using system("cp foo bar");
[02:04] <czr> bayziders, I'd still recommend you learn some shell scripting. it's easy.
[02:04] <erUSUL> bayziders: not worth the pain imho (call commands from c code)
[02:04] <Azul> shell scripting is phun
[02:04] <bayziders> ok i will look into shell scripting
[02:04] <cappiz> anyone knows if there is a way to logout form x-session from terminal?
[02:05] <stefg> !bash | bayziders
[02:05] <ubotu> bayziders: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[02:05] <kinematix> hehe, I had so much fun customizing my bash prompt (with color etc), I did that for like, several hours
[02:05] <auTONYmous> kinematix: Me too, then at work, I was dismayed that I couldn't do the same with ksh
[02:06] <kinematix> auTONYmous, can't you use bash for your account?
[02:06] <stefg> ksh was a mistake IMHO
[02:06] <kinematix> auTONYmous, at my place they give us the root password for such modifications
[02:06] <auTONYmous> kinematix: My job = a mix of HP-UX and Sun
[02:06] <kinematix> oh ok
[02:06] <auTONYmous> none of the HP's have bash, and KSH is standard for the environment...out of my control
[02:06] <Gosha> !avi
[02:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:06] <kinematix> well I installed bash on OpenBSD, I'm surprised it isn't available on other unix
[02:06] <kinematix> aright
[02:07] <auTONYmous> On the Suns, I switch into bash at login, but I'm screwed on HP's
[02:07] <Gosha> :(
[02:07] <Gosha> how about 3gp?
[02:07] <czr> I'm sure some brave soul has prebuilt bash for hpux.
[02:07] <teclo-> Hey, when the fuck are you folks gonna fix the bugs in kdmtheme in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS ?
[02:07] <stefg> auTONYmous: and you have a copy f the unix haters guide residing on top of your racks, i assume?
[02:07] <jrib> !language | teclo-
[02:07] <ubotu> teclo-: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:07] <kinematix> by the way, yesterday I asked a question in other channels without a clear answer..  is it possible to have 2 network interfaces (eth0, eth1) each having their IP adress in different subnet, but having only 1 network card in the machine
[02:07] <Gosha> when i play 3gp there is no sound, how come? is it because i took them all from my phone and it's bugged?
[02:07] <kinematix> somekind of virtual interface
[02:08] <auTONYmous> stefg: It's only because I'm used to bash, that's all. No hate for ksh
[02:08] <czr> kinematix, you can't use IP-alias?
[02:08] <wayne_> The error running gnome-terminal is serial 109 error_code 2 request_code 78 minor_code 0. Any ideas?
[02:08] <czr> kinematix, if you only need to have multiple IP networks, then IP alias is the way to go. nothing to do with virtual interfaces
[02:08] <ReTyPe> gksu "update-manager -c"  File "/usr/bin/update-manager", line 32, in <module>    from UpdateManager.UpdateManager import UpdateManager ImportError: No module named UpdateManager.UpdateManager
[02:08] <kinematix> czr: that's not really it, because it won't create a new interface (I really want to have 2 interfaces so I can customize the firewall having rules based on interface names)
[02:08] <vanberge> an anybody tell me how to get GalleryRemote running on Ubuntu?  :-(
[02:08] <stefg> auTONYmous: yup, it was a misunderstanding... default shell in edgy isn't bash no more
[02:09] <czr> kinematix, do you have VLAN-tagging possibility in your network-environment?
[02:09] <jrib> ReTyPe: does /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/UpdateManager/UpdateManager.py exist?
[02:09] <PingunZ> How can I install a folder containing ttf fonts ?
[02:09] <czr> kinematix, that would require a managed switch into which your computer will plug in. in that case yes. otherwise no.
[02:09] <auTONYmous> stefg: eh? So it's dash?
[02:09] <kinematix> czr: well, it's just that you can reinforce packet filter rules specifying an interface, and I intend to buy new network cards later, so I just wanted to have a way to simulate a second one so I could write my rules now and have minimum manipulations to do when i'll plug that actual card
[02:10] <stefg> i forgot... decided to ignore edgy... better for my blood pressure
[02:10] <erUSUL> auTONYmous: i simple 'sudo depkg-reconfigure dash' will change that...
[02:10] <roxlu> whats is a good location for custom installs?
[02:10] <jrib> roxlu: /usr/local or /opt
[02:10] <ReTyPe> jrib: yes, i also have python 2.5 installed
[02:10] <czr> kinematix, you didn't answer my question
[02:10] <kinematix> czr: right, really, I wanted to know if there was a miraculous one liner, but it doesn't
[02:10] <roxlu> jrib: and that the progname? such as /usr/local/phpeclipse?
[02:10] <jrib> ReTyPe: what does 'python' call?
[02:10] <czr> kinematix, without VLANs no.
[02:10] <kinematix> czr: no, i don't
[02:11] <ReTyPe> jrib: 2.5
[02:11] <czr> kinematix, you could always use arptables and filter on destination MAC
[02:11] <jrib> ReTyPe: that's why
[02:11] <kinematix> czr: that's ok, i'll filter by IP ranges / mask for now, and later will qualify rules with the actual interface when i'll have this new card
[02:11] <czr> kinematix, but that would be even sillier than what you want to do :-)
[02:11] <auTONYmous> erUSUL: I did it manually...(a while ago. dash broke something I was compiling...can't remember what)
[02:11] <ReTyPe> jrib: and how can i fix it ?
[02:12] <jrib> roxlu: I usually put stuff with a nice structure (gets installed into bin/ etc/ lib/ etc...) in /usr/local and use /opt for stuff that just has one big directory for all of its stuff
[02:12] <roxlu> oke
[02:12] <jrib> ReTyPe: switch back to 2.4
[02:12] <kinematix> czr: hehe, I was asking if it was possible to do, I know it's silly, but it would have been convenient until I decide if I wanna go 1gbit, wireless, etc, it's not clear yet
[02:12] <erUSUL> kinematix: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/IP-Alias.html
[02:12] <ReTyPe> can i call the script to start with 2.4 ?
[02:13] <jrib> ReTyPe: maybe
[02:13] <czr> kinematix, the problem is that network interfaces in linux live below the logical level
[02:13] <jrib> ReTyPe: default python should probably be left as 2.4 anyway
[02:13] <czr> kinematix, addressing is a layer above that. so no, you cannot do what you want to do. VLANs will make new interfaces, hence you can use the names in iptables too.
[02:14] <kinematix> czr: yes, I'm not surprised you can't do it, but no one did answer "no" clearly before, that's all I wanted to know, I would have been surprise if that would have been possible, fair enuff
[02:14] <czr> kinematix, np :-)
[02:14] <kinematix> czr: in fact (I know it's off topic for this channel, but still, it's unix stuff) I'm doing that on a server, running openbsd
[02:15] <czr> kinematix, you can privmsg ot stuff, I don't mind.
[02:15] <kinematix> but anyway I guess qualifying the filtering rules with both an ip mask + interface name is better
[02:15] <czr> I normally filter with ifacename + ipmask as well
[02:15] <czr> but I normally use VLANs so it's not an issue for me
[02:16] <ReTyPe> jrib: i changed the /usr/bin/python link back to 2.4, but now i still get a dbus error
[02:16] <jrib> ReTyPe: what does that say?
[02:17] <null__> ReTyPe, use update-alternatives to change stuff
[02:17] <ReTyPe> warning: could not initiate dbus could not send the dbus Inhibit signal: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[02:18] <noobcook> how to install framework so i can do a security pentest of my machine
[02:18] <kinematix> noob: I suggest downloading the Backtrack distribution live cd
[02:18] <bayziders> Whats the room for c? #C?
[02:18] <jrib> bayziders: ##c
[02:19] <daedra> backtrack r0x0rz
[02:19] <bayziders> tnx
[02:19] <alecjw> bayziders: i think so. or #cprogramming
[02:19] <bayziders> no its ##c
[02:19] <alecjw> ok
[02:19] <ReTyPe> null__:  i never used update-alternatives, i didn't knew that command: update-alternatives --display pythonNo alternatives for python.
[02:20] <noobcook> kinematix: cbf lol
[02:21] <adub> sup channel
[02:21] <null__> see the help for update-alternatives
[02:21] <kinematix> anyway, I don't know what happened recently, but when I rebooted 1h ago, XWindow couldn't start, .. for some reason it was telling me my nvidia driver and kernel module weren't in sync (one was the 8x series, and the other the 9x series) but .. damn, I didn't do anything, I think this has been caused by a beryl update
[02:21] <null__> always use that to configure different versions of the same app
[02:21] <null__> app/lib
[02:21] <_Enchained> yep tout lmonde
[02:21] <null__> that is run by default
[02:22] <kinematix> also, for some reason the bios partition table changes from time to time, , like my linux root (hda7) moves to hda6.. etc
[02:22] <_Enchained> j'ai un souchi
[02:22] <jrib> !fr | _Enchained
[02:22] <ubotu> _Enchained: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:22] <_Enchained> oh sorry
[02:22] <_Enchained> mistake
[02:22] <_Enchained> ^^
[02:22] <kinematix> _Enchained, petit coquin
[02:22] <czr> kinematix, the partition table (!= bios) should change. are you sharing your system with another os?
[02:22] <czr> shouldn't even.
[02:23] <kinematix> czr: yes, but I won't mention which one :P
[02:23] <czr> kinematix, check your bootmanager in that case
[02:23] <czr> maybe it's doing something evil with the part-table.
[02:23] <czr> anyhow, bios doesn't know about partition tables. either the bootmanager or the other operating system which mucks with it.
[02:23] <czr> you could always mount your filesystems using UUID or fslabels.
[02:23] <kinematix> czr: I meant, the hda(#) stuff,
[02:24] <kinematix> which I read is some index known to the bios or something
[02:24] <kinematix> anyway I have a simple workaround, .. to edit in grub at the boot loader screen
[02:24] <noobcook> hmm
[02:25] <noobcook> im having problems changing folder permissions
[02:25] <czr> kinematix, it's not bios-related. and I understood you perfectly.
[02:25] <kinematix> czr: ok, well i'm wrong with that
[02:25] <mnoir> noobcook: folder perms should change exactly the same way as file perms - what is the prob?
[02:25] <adub> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1431/     <--- i get that error when running hydra HELP HELP please
[02:26] <czr> linux doesn't modify the partition table on boot. neither does anything in ubuntu by default. so if you see your part table being modified it must be something else.
[02:26] <noobcook> mnoir i cant rename directories threw gui i tried  sudo chmod -R 754  <foldername> but it didnt work
[02:26] <noobcook> well it didnt work wen i tried to rename it
[02:26] <sgorf> kinematix: are you using a raid mirror?
[02:26] <kinematix> czr: yes, I think it's after I boot the other evil os, it sometimes decide to update the partition table
[02:26] <kinematix> sgorf: nope
[02:27] <mnoir> noobcook: paste exact command? and define didn't work?
[02:27] <czr> the other evil? surely you don't consider linux evil ;-)
[02:27] <noobcook> ill show you
[02:27] <mnoir> noobcook: sorry - gui
[02:27] <noobcook> mnoir david@david-desktop:~/Desktop/framework-3.0-beta-3$ sudo chmod -R 754 /usr/local/framework-3.0-beta-3
[02:27] <czr> kinematix, I'd seek the root problem in the other os. you use grub as the master bootloader? (installed into mbr, right?)
[02:27] <czr> s/root problem/root cause to the problem/
[02:27] <kinematix> czr: nope, I have the server running openbsd, and my workstation running ubuntu and that other evil os I must keep for music composition (all my music instruments are "dlls")
[02:28] <kinematix> czr: yes, grub in mbr
[02:28] <mnoir> noobcook: proof it didn't work ?
[02:28] <MetaBookfoziS> is there a forum (ubuntuforums.org) admin?
[02:28] <redgun> someone using ubuntu as server with lvm?
[02:29] <kinematix> other OS at hda(0,0), ubuntu at hda(5) . sometimes hda(6)   looks like windows create a dummy partition between its ones and the linux ones
[02:29] <adub> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1431/     <--- i get that error when running hydra HELP HELP please
[02:29] <needubuntuhelp>  Okay, now we're cooking
[02:29] <noobcook> mnoir:  when i go infile browser i select the file and press F2 and i cant rename, i right click and i cant rename
[02:29] <needubuntuhelp>  I'm an ubuntu newbie, the newest of the new
[02:29] <noobcook> im newer
[02:29] <noobcook> u cant beat me
[02:29] <needubuntuhelp>  Kubuntu, actually
[02:29] <noobcook> o
[02:29] <mnoir> noobcook: 1. are the perms at that time showing that you sgould be able to do it?
[02:29] <auTONYmous> The names are dead giveaways.
[02:29] <mineur> there's a kubuntu channel too :)
[02:29] <mnoir> should*
[02:30] <needubuntuhelp> ..........
[02:30] <czr> kinematix, hmmh. don't know how to fix part-table problems in the-os-that-uses-dlls-for-instruments
[02:30] <needubuntuhelp>  I knew that
[02:30] <needubuntuhelp>  Really, I did
[02:30] <needubuntuhelp>  :D
[02:30] <noobcook> mnoir everything in console gives me the impression that the permissions applied
[02:30] <needubuntuhelp>  Thanks
[02:30] <mnoir> hmm - can't see it - should be a no-brainer
[02:30] <noobcook> ill try -v
[02:30] <mnoir> does rename work from commandline?
[02:30] <Gosha> !bluetooth
[02:30] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[02:30] <MetaBookfoziS> is there a forum (ubuntuforums.org) admin?
[02:31] <needKubuntuhelp>  Grrr
[02:31] <kinematix> czr: ok, I'm using Windows because I compose music and I pretty much like Nuendo (CubaseVST++) and VSTi (music instruments, packaged as dll) and I need ASIO 2.0 (for low latency audio)
[02:31] <kinematix> that's why I still have that other OS
[02:31] <mineur> I'm back
[02:31] <MetaBookfoziS> is there a forum (ubuntuforums.org) admin?
[02:31] <Enverex> If games or apps like, Tron or Rosegarden have .deb files for download, is there anything wrong with using those? (pretend that they weren't in Apt-get already)
[02:32] <mnoir> MetaBookfoziS: probably
[02:32] <elkbuntu> MetaBookfoziS, try asking in #ubuntuforums
[02:32] <redgun> someone using ubuntu as server with lvm?
[02:32] <MetaBookfoziS> oh, th
[02:32] <MetaBookfoziS> x
[02:32] <czr> kinematix, I knew what the other one was. doesn't change the problem. I still don't know enough about it in order to fix the problem.
[02:32] <noobcook> meh off 2 bed
[02:32] <sgorf> Enverex: dependancies
[02:33] <Ropechoborra> Is there a way to read mans in spanish?
[02:33] <mnoir> noobcook: sry...
[02:33] <Ropechoborra> to translate the mans to spanish
[02:33] <czr> kinematix, maybe google will help "why does windows modify partition table on boot (and cause a major mess)" ?
[02:33] <Enverex> sgorf, Well I just installed 6 different games/apps and only one needed a dep that wasn't installed and it installed that then itself happily
[02:33] <kinematix> czr: well I just remember last time I got the problem, I saw a new FAT partition, very small, created between the windows and linux partitions, which explains why  everything was shifted, anyway, nevermind
[02:34] <mnoir> Ropechoborra: google for 'man-pages-es'  - I think you can find them :)
[02:34] <ReTyPe> jrb, i have a package that is not installed correctly, everytime it fails to run its proper scripts: http://rafb.net/p/IImPGO77.html
[02:34] <Enverex> sgorf, So no issues other than deps?
[02:35] <sgorf> Enverex: you should be fine then, but the distribution won't be able to look after those packages for you - eg. upgrades or security updates. If there's a namespace problem like say it depends on libfoo which Ubuntu later provides a different version of by a different maintainer then there may be issues but you will always be able to remove the package you added, provided it was made sensibly
[02:35] <christo> I'm getting this error when trying to connect up bluetooth:   Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate loadable module in module_path: "liblighthouseblue.so"   - does anybody know what the library path for 'modemlink' is ?
[02:35] <christo> I have that file under /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/engines/liblighthouseblue.so
[02:36] <kinematix> czr: now that I know what's going on and that I can easily boot linux anyway by hitting "e" and shift the numbers ( hda(6,0) to hda(5,0) and hda7 to hda6) .. it's not that annoying..  it's before I knew how to do that it was
[02:36] <kinematix> hehe
[02:36] <Enverex> sgorf, Well the one dep it installed was something in apt-get, so that's ok, and these apps themselves aren't in Apt-get which is why I'm installing them in the first place
[02:38] <kinematix> czr: and at one point I decided to repartition the windows partition and give some space to the ubuntu one, but I did that with partition magic, which screwed everything (grub wasn't showing its menu (error 17) ..
[02:38] <czr> kinematix, you can also replicate the grub config so that you can just choose between them in the menu
[02:38] <sgorf> Enverex: as long as you installed the dependency from apt-get, or the supplied package is identical to the one in apt-get, you're fine. Of course you have to trust that the package isn't doing something silly like overwriting files owned by other packages
[02:38] <kinematix> I ended up using gparted or something
[02:38] <czr> kinematix, ah. that explains a lot of it
[02:38] <sgorf> Enverex: but that applies to any third party apt repository anyway
[02:38] <czr> kinematix, I know that windows does rewrite parts of the MBR now and then. using partmagic probably didn't help the confusion
[02:38] <Ropechoborra> how can i make a .deb from a .tar.bz2
[02:38] <Ropechoborra> ?
[02:38] <kinematix> czr: yes, but this is a different problem! wait wait! that one happened once, whne I did try partition magic, but the one I'm talking about is different (I can reeach grub's menu, and I'm not using partition magic)
[02:38] <czr> kinematix, must be that windows somehow sees the wrong partition information (cached somewhere, who knows)
[02:39] <czr> kinematix, ah, got me confused then :-)
[02:39] <czr> Ropechoborra, do you have a lot of software/autotools experience?
[02:39] <kinematix> czr: no, really, if windows is your first partition..   installing ubuntu and repartition later with partition magic is a bad idea
[02:39] <czr> software building even.
[02:40] <Ropechoborra> czr No
[02:40] <czr> kinematix, haven't run windows for about 8 years now. can't say I know the problem :-)
[02:40] <czr> Ropechoborra, then ask someone with the experience of packaging to do it for you. deb package is much more than "just an archive format"
[02:41] <sylvie_> hoi
[02:41] <kinematix> czr: I understand, and I wouldn't need it if there would be something as nice as nuendo  and a way to use .dll instruments (natively, those requires alot of CPU), I could drop the dependance to win
[02:42] <sgorf> Ropechoborra: If you want to learn see http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ch-start.en.html and related stuff, but it isn't something you can do with a single command
[02:42] <czr> kinematix, you could try using windows in vmware workstation or some of the virtualization thingies. not the ideal solution but still.
[02:42] <Ropechoborra> Ok thanks
[02:43] <mnoir> Ropechoborra: if the tar is a proper source package that builds properly, checkinstall will make a deb for you
[02:43] <kinematix> czr: depends on the overhead, but anyway, I mean, it works great in windows, and I have no problem using win for that
[02:43] <czr> Ropechoborra, if you really really need to know how to, this is a good place to start (it assumes software building experience): http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/index.en.html
[02:43] <czr> x even
[02:44] <Ropechoborra> czr Ok thanks!
[02:44] <kinematix> czr: I mean, until one efficient solution gets available in linux, but it doesn't sound it's gonna be soon
[02:45] <czr> kinematix, I run windowsen virtualized all the time. don't do desktop stuff though
[02:46] <azul> !grub
[02:46] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:46] <kinematix> rebooting
[02:46] <czr> and there will be always some overhead to virtualization, no matter which is the technique.
[02:46] <grzesiek> :o
[02:47] <grzesiek> how to join other irc net on livecd?
[02:47] <markus_nagler> since it's somewhat related, what's the latest on GDI-printers on Linux? Can one run them through vmware or wine?
[02:47] <grzesiek> how to join other irc net on livecd? :<
[02:47] <azul> what's irc got to do with livecds
[02:47] <azul> pop in the ubuntu cd and log in with gaim
[02:47] <sam_uk> any one tell me the command to launch the ubuntustudiolauncher app?
[02:47] <grzesiek> :x i cant join quakenet
[02:48] <Kai__> quit
[02:48] <grzesiek> i have linux first time ;p
[02:49] <azul> connect to the quakenet server from gaim
[02:49] <Zaggynl> Can someone compile ftd4linux for me? the rep version doesn't work, and I cannot compile myself, I've been naughty with dependency versions
[02:50] <azul> if i compile it on my computer, it doesn't necessarily mean it would work on yours
[02:50] <azul> besides, compiling is matter of issuing ./configure, make, make install
[02:50] <Trixsey> You guys know what Azureus default install dir is?
[02:51] <Zaggynl> azul, yes yes, on ./configure it whines for a dependencies that is older then the one I'm using
[02:51] <Zaggynl> @#$()*&
[02:51] <christo> I'm working through the bluetooth setup here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothDialup. Does anybody know what the data-profile-number would be, or how I can find this out?
[02:51] <markus_nagler> Anyone know how to mak eNautilus display the size of folder in MB instead of number of items?
[02:51] <adub> does anyone know how to get hydra to check more than 5 passwords at a time mine keeps dying
[02:53] <abo> hi, how can I list the mounted devices
[02:53] <mnoir> abo: filesystems?  df
[02:53] <abo> mnoir, cheer
[02:54] <mnoir> ;)
[02:54] <mnoir> also try df -h
[02:54] <abo> mnoir, much nicer, thx again
[02:54] <mnoir> i alias df to df -h cuz i hate arithmetic
[02:55] <mnoir> -h works on alot of commands
[02:55] <Gosha> 3gp == fail on ubuntu?
[02:56] <CPF_> Hi guys
[02:56] <abo> mnoir, my ntfs drives do not look mounted automatically, although they are in /etc/fstab
[02:56] <Zaggynl> azul, yes yes, on ./configure it whines for a dependencies that is older then the one I'm using, so I can't even ./configure
[02:56] <Zaggynl> ..ups
[02:56] <CPF_> I've got somewhat 2 monitors here, with nvidia drivers installed (and tested), but I'd like the 2-screen (desktop) configuration...
[02:56] <mnoir> abo: with auto specified?
[02:56] <Zaggynl> Can someone compile ftd4linux for me? the rep version doesn't work, and I cannot compile myself, I've been naughty with dependency versions, so I can't even ./configure
[02:56] <CPF_> Anyone with some help?
[02:56] <Trixsey> What is Azureus install dir?
[02:57] <Gosha> !ffmpeg
[02:57] <ubotu> ffmpeg: multimedia player, server and encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:0.cvs20060823-3.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 175 kB, installed size 612 kB
[02:58] <CPF_> no dual monitor help here?
[02:58] <abo> mnoir, I think I know the problem, windows did not shut down properly the last time, it says the ntfs journal is not clean.... is there a way I can fix that without logging into windows?
[02:58] <mnoir> abo: i wouldn't - usr the native os whenever possible
[02:59] <mnoir> usr=use :)
[02:59] <mundano> anyone knows how to force a downgrade od one package with dpkg?
[02:59] <sgorf> mundano: I usually just get the .deb and dpkg -i on it
[02:59] <mnoir> abo: uncle bill has more at stake in making it work :)
[02:59] <abo> mnoir, ok, one more question, is there a way I can list the connected (not necessary mounted) devices ( I know that lsusb lists the usb ones)
[03:00] <sgorf> abo: cat /proc/partitions
[03:00] <Ian_L> hello folks
[03:00] <mundano> i will try... trevino repositories messed up my sistem...
[03:00] <Gosha> !samr
[03:00] <mundano> err...
[03:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about samr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:01] <mnoir> abo: i think there is a different command for each type of device but there must be files in the virt fs called /proc that will give you the info you seek :)   hack around a little.  just do not try to change /proc directly
[03:01] <abo> sgorf, wonderful, what does dm-0 ... (dm-x in general) mean?
[03:01] <mobal> hi'
[03:01] <sgorf> abo: LVM2 or something I think? I've never got into that though Ubuntu does that stuff by default. I'm still an md user, sorry
[03:01] <Ian_L> guys....what is the subject of this chat channel?
[03:01] <Gosha> !bin
[03:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:02] <Gosha> !fishing
[03:02] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[03:02] <mobal> everyone can help me?
[03:02] <mobal> i have big problem with spedstep :(
[03:02] <mobal> i cant configure it really good
[03:02] <czr> dm-0 is the control device for devicemapper. used by LVM but can be used for other stuff as well (transparent crypto and friends)
[03:02] <Ian_L> Is ubotu a chat bot or a live person?
[03:03] <Jowi> Ian_L, a bot
[03:03] <mobal> !bot
[03:03] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:03] <czr> and there is also dmraid which is swraid implemented using devicemapper (not to be confused with linux swraid)
[03:03] <Music_Shuffle> A live person. Who repeats the same phrases over and over 24/7/365.
[03:03] <abo> sgorf,mnoir, thanks a lot
[03:03] <Music_Shuffle> :)
[03:03] <mnoir> hth
[03:03] <Ian_L> ubotu is silly
[03:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is silly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:03] <Ian_L> lol
[03:04] <Ian_L> ubotu, where is your hometown?
[03:04] <mobal> :D
[03:04] <mobal> ubotu are you a bot?
[03:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about are you a bot? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:04] <Ian_L> Is ubotu a he or a she?
[03:05] <mnoir> !botabuse | Ian_L
[03:05] <ubotu> Ian_L: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[03:05] <Ian_L> ok
[03:05] <Ian_L> mnoir
[03:05] <Ian_L> mnoir
[03:06] <domas> ergh
[03:06] <domas> where did /sbin/mount.xfs disappear?
[03:06] <NaPsTeR> hi. i need to b able to play mp3s but i cant...wat must i do?
[03:06] <Seveas> !find /sbin/mount.xfs
[03:06] <adub> does anyone in here use hydra the darn thing works now but cuts off after about 5 login attempts
[03:06] <Seveas> !mp3 > NaPsTeR
[03:06] <ubotu> Package/file /sbin/mount.xfs does not exist in edgy
[03:06] <domas> why would anyone have mkfs, all the utilities, module, and no mount utility?
[03:07] <Ian_L> I'm using XChat...is there a way to produce a list of folks on this channel?
[03:07] <NaPsTeR> wat?
[03:07] <Seveas> domas, becaus /sbin/mount can do it?
[03:07] <mnoir> domas: locate mount.xfs does not produce anything on my 6.06 machine
[03:07] <NaPsTeR> !mp3
[03:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:07] <Seveas> Ian_L, /names
[03:07] <domas> but it can't :(
[03:07] <domas> seveas: it looks for mount.xfs
[03:07] <czr> domas, grep xfs /proc/filesystems
[03:07] <domas> it is in there
[03:07] <czr> you have the xfs driver loaded in the kernel to start with? ok
[03:08] <domas> of course
[03:08] <czr> weird then. mount should be able to do it (normally, don't use xfs myself though)
[03:08] <domas> dmesg says it is all ok
[03:08] <Ian_L> anyone like me, just using the knoppix live cd?
[03:08] <domas> czr: I must, cause jfs is broken
[03:08] <coNP> domas: what do you want to do? I have a lots of xfs fss mounted and there is no mount.xfs for me either
[03:08] <czr> domas, what i meant was that normally mount just passes the device name to kernel and the kernel will device which driver will mount. no need for external commands (except for smbfs)
[03:09] <Enselic> How do do I move windows between my two displays?
[03:09] <czr> domas, but I don't know whether xfs also needs an external helper program
[03:09] <kaudio_> somebody know how i can down the speed of internet to my LAN ?
[03:09] <czr> Enselic, drag them with a mouse? (enable xinerama)
[03:09] <Ian_L> I got a good question...anyone ever try to just load the 'live' portion of Ubuntu and it continually fails?
[03:09] <Enselic> If I start firefox in one Screen, it won't start in the other screen (says its already rnning)
[03:09] <Ian_L> it keeps happening to me
[03:09] <domas> czr: /sbin/mount looks for mount.xfs (according to strace)
[03:09] <NaPsTeR> wat does it mean when u guys put an ! in front of a word?
[03:09] <Enselic> czr, Ah, that's what thats for
[03:09] <Enselic> czr, Ill try
[03:10] <stefg> !ubotu
[03:10] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:10] <czr> domas, interesting
[03:10] <Seveas> NaPsTeR, then ubotu will respond
[03:10] <NaPsTeR> ok
[03:10] <NaPsTeR> thnx
[03:10] <NaPsTeR> !screen resolution >NaPsTeR
[03:10] <srtu> hi, maybe someone can help me, i install the server version of ubuntu and i like tu use the icewm windowsmanager, i try to install it with the apt-get install command, but the packs ar not listed
[03:10] <srtu> same problem with fluxbox
[03:11] <domas> czr: http://p.defau.lt/?mHmVlt9HweoLwnXLVSDFMg
[03:11] <Seveas> srtu, nable univeerse
[03:11] <Seveas> !universe | srtu
[03:11] <ubotu> srtu: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:11] <kaudio_> somebody know how i can down the speed of internet to my LAN ?
[03:11] <domas> oh, hold on
[03:11] <czr> domas, ah. try mounting without the UUID. just humor me.
[03:11] <coNP> domas: what is /sbin/mount/? I have mount in /bin...
[03:11] <stefg> !icewm
[03:11] <ubotu> icewm: wonderful Win95-OS/2-Motif-like window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.28-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 666 kB, installed size 1696 kB
[03:12] <domas> czr: same
[03:12] <NaPsTeR> my screen resolution is 800x600 and i need it to be 1024x768...wat can i do?
[03:12] <domas> conp: okok, /bin/mount
[03:12] <czr> domas, what about -txfs?
[03:12] <coNP> domas: okay, sorry
[03:12] <czr> have you run mkfs.xfs on it btw? to know whether it's a valid xfs to start with? sorry for sounding silly, but still ;-)
[03:12] <olimpico> Hi all, I got my wirless working without encryption, but I don't seem to find a proper howto for WEP encryption, since I tried several and they don't work, I'm using Kubuntu 6.10
[03:13] <mnoir> !fixres | NaPsTeR
[03:13] <ubotu> NaPsTeR: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:13] <Enselic`> czr, its buggy but Ill google for a solution before I ask you ;)
[03:13] <czr> not mkfs.xfs. fsck.xfs
[03:13] <domas> http://p.defau.lt/?hpWlEaXK1gXo2KjjKn4h0Q
[03:13] <domas> same
[03:13] <Ian_L> I got a good question...anyone ever try to just load the 'live' portion of Ubuntu and it continually fails?
[03:13] <czr> domas, give me a sec. I'll make a small xfs and test how it goes
[03:13] <Ian_L> PLS HELP
[03:13] <czr> domas, which ubuntu did you run?
[03:13] <Seveas> !repeat Ian_L
[03:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repeat Ian_L - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <Seveas> !repeat |Ian_L
[03:13] <ubotu> Ian_L: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:14] <domas> czr: 6.10
[03:14] <anacaona> !patience
[03:14] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:14] <czr> domas, good, give me a short moment
[03:14] <domas> xfs_check is all ok
[03:14] <fabio__> i'm trying to compile a c++ with conio.h included, which package should i install to have that include file? thanks.
[03:14] <czr> domas, it's weird. (mount.xfs is not necessary btw)
[03:15] <czr> domas, it works here without problems.
[03:15] <Ian_L> PLS HELP
[03:15] <elysium444> I am using ubuntu 6.10, after udating the system and restarting the pc the xgl and beryl restarted the xserver. how can I solve this??
[03:15] <srtu>  !EasySource
[03:15] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:16] <domas> ok, found the error
[03:16] <czr> domas, http://koltsoff.com/pub/xfs-strace.txt
[03:16] <domas> czr: mkfs.xfs -b size=16384 ...
[03:16] <domas> czr: with default block size it works properly
[03:16] <stefg> !xgl | elysium444
[03:16] <ubotu> elysium444: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:16] <czr> domas, ah. ok. the kernel driver didn't want it I guess
[03:16] <czr> domas, but weird, no messages in dmesg even?
[03:17] <domas> czr: strange, nope
[03:17] <Gasten> What's the name of DSP, but for video?
[03:17] <domas> well. probably the utility has been blindly ported from irix
[03:17] <czr> anyhow, mount.xfs is not necessary
[03:17] <domas> and not all support added to kernel module
[03:17] <domas> czr: yes, now I find it too ;-)
[03:17] <czr> domas :-)
[03:17] <domas> 'not implemented' message is somewhat misguiding here
[03:18] <czr> nah
[03:18] <Gosha> i installed realplayer and now i'm trying to start it by using the 'realplay' command .. but all i get is the error: "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"
[03:18] <mnoir> fabio__: the source pkg should have document to say what the dependencies are
[03:18] <czr> it's a errno that kernel syscalls return when they cannot do something, or wrong parameters, a generic catch-all
[03:18] <elysium444> I am using ubuntu 6.10, after udating the system and restarting the pc,when beryl is about to start it restarts the xserver to the login. how can I solve this??
[03:18] <czr> you'd get the same error with missing filesystem drivers and such as well.
[03:18] <mobal> need speedstep-centrino help whisper me pls
[03:18] <Gosha> i installed it in /usr/share/RealPlayer, because i gelt like it .. was that a wrong decision? if it's not that, what can it be?
[03:18] <stefg> Gosha: were did you get the player from? repos or tgz-package from real site?
[03:18] <Gosha> real site
[03:18] <Gosha> the .bin package
[03:19] <fdr> hello! please, how do I blank a DVD+RW that already contains some data?
[03:19] <mnoir> elysium444: it is suggested to ask this in #ubuntu-xgl
[03:19] <stefg> Gosha: dump it and use the one provided by canonical
[03:19] <Gosha> helixcommunity sit actually
[03:19] <Gosha> canonical?
[03:19] <stefg> !commercial
[03:19] <Gosha> and how do i - dump it?
[03:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about commercial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:19] <elysium444> thanks
[03:19] <stefg> !realplayer
[03:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:19] <domas> bleh, why would I want 4k blocks ;-)
[03:19] <Gosha> and then?
[03:20] <IdleOne> mobal: irc doesnt have whisper . please state your question and if someone can help they will
[03:20] <czr> domas, because they're small and fuzzy and nice? :-)
[03:20] <Gosha> https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html#id2542844 ?
[03:20] <stefg> Gosha: Canonical has a repo with commercial (non oss) apps, which are at free of charge
[03:20] <Gosha> huh?
[03:20] <stefg> !repos
[03:20] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:21] <domas> czr: I did hit problem with jfs on 2.6.17 (and other new kernels), where it hangs...
[03:21] <domas> on multiple distros
[03:21] <Gosha> eh ?
[03:21] <czr> well, new kernels are something evil in general.
[03:21] <domas> czr: couldn't install previous ubuntu as it didn't detect dell hardware
[03:21] <czr> ah, that sucks then
[03:21] <k010> domas, i compiled a 2.6.20 kernel yday but that dnt boot no more
[03:21] <domas> ended up experimenting with xfs
[03:22] <Gosha> oss?
[03:22] <domas> czr: well, at least fc5 had a copy of 2.6.15 ;-)
[03:22] <Gasten> Gosha: Open Source Software.
[03:22] <czr> domas, I've yet to not use ext3. used to do reiser for some years, but then had to fix it manually couple of times and decided to switch to ext3. that I can at least fix manually (with pain and sweat, but still)
[03:23] <mobal> cannot load speedstep-centrino modul at boot
[03:23] <mobal> pls help
[03:23] <elysium444> xgl
[03:23] <elysium444> !xgl
[03:23] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:23] <domas> czr: these are db servers for web darling website
[03:23] <Gosha> ... so .. what am i supposed to get? i don't seem to understand
[03:23] <domas> czr: file system does matter ;-)
[03:23] <czr> domas, can't the db use O_DIRECT?
[03:24] <czr> ie, doesn't it have internal caching?
[03:24] <domas> this is where jfs rocks
[03:24] <czr> if it can, then the filesystem doesn't matter as long as you preallocate the storage area once.
[03:24] <domas> well, I usually avoid o_direct, few megabytes of cache here and there helps
[03:24] <Gosha> and, how do i uninstall the on ei just installed?
[03:24] <ikonia> if I am the owner of a directory, and I set the permissions of that directory to 600 - why would I not be able to enter it or list it.
[03:25] <stefg> !realplay
[03:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about realplay - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:25] <stefg> !info realplay
[03:25] <ubotu> Package realplay does not exist in any distro I know
[03:25] <stefg> ubotu... you are wrong :-)
[03:25] <ikonia> ls -la /home/mattd/.ssh/
[03:25] <ikonia> drw-------  2 mattd mattd 4096 2007-01-13 10:53 .
[03:25] <ikonia> why would the user mattd not be able to enter that directory
[03:25] <czr> domas, well, O_DIRECT is file-specific, so a caching DB should use it. this way other memory can be used to cache other stuff in the kernel. not to waste on the db-data (since it has to be journalled anyway). but ymmv obviously.
[03:26] <czr> ikonia, you have no x-right
[03:26] <czr> aka "traverse"
[03:26] <ikonia> czr: that shouldn't stop you entering it
[03:26] <ikonia> just listing the contnets
[03:26] <czr> yes it should. that's exactly what traversing means
[03:26] <czr> r stops listing contents.
[03:27] <satish_> Hi, I'm using Dapper and am not able to change application menus font even when change the "Application font" in Font Preferences
[03:27] <IdleOne> stefg:  you mean mplayer maybe?
[03:27] <ikonia> czr:  I stand corrected
[03:27] <NaPsTeR> i only have 800x600 and i need 1024x768. wat do ido ?
[03:27] <Ian_L> anyone have a problem loading Ubuntu live cd on PC?
[03:27] <ikonia> Ian_L: just tell us your problem
[03:28] <czr> ikonia, np :-)
[03:28] <Ian_L> When it's loading, the graphics just freezes
[03:28] <Gosha> hmm, shouldn't there be a uninstall file or something somewhere? >_>
[03:28] <deepsa> hey my wireless not working in ubuntu what is the command to get the kernel modules ? earlier i did that and it worked
[03:28] <Ian_L> I have tried multiple CDs
[03:28] <ikonia> Ian_L: using an ati card ?
[03:28] <Ian_L> no, NVIDIA
[03:28] <ikonia> deepsa: your constantly having this problem
[03:28] <Ian_L> it's really frustrating
[03:28] <ikonia> Ian_L: what nvidia chipset
[03:28] <IdleOne> !resolution | NaPsTeR
[03:28] <ubotu> NaPsTeR: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:28] <deepsa> ikonia, ya dude actually i am installing ubuntu edgy on another laptop
[03:28] <Ian_L> 6600
[03:29] <stefg> Gosha: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/07/08/introducing-the-dapper-commercial-repository/ read that, and just replace the 'opera' they are mentioning with 'realplayer'
[03:29] <deepsa> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-what??
[03:29] <ikonia> Ian_L: that shouldn't be a problem
[03:29] <ikonia> deepsa: you should know the address of the wiki by now
[03:29] <Ian_L> yeah, im confused
[03:29] <Ian_L> maybe my download was corrupt
[03:29] <ikonia> Ian_L: tried botting in safe graphics mode
[03:29] <Ian_L> not sure
[03:29] <ikonia> botting ?/? booting sorry
[03:29] <Gosha> ... is that unintsallation?
[03:29] <deepsa> ikonia, ya but can you tell the command?
[03:29] <ikonia> deepsa: no - read he wiki
[03:30] <ikonia> you CONSTANTLY ask this sort of thing - its about time you did some reading on your own
[03:30] <ikonia> its the only way you'll learn
[03:30] <Ian_L> ikonia...you an op?
[03:30] <ikonia> Ian_L: nope
[03:30] <Ian_L> wow...a lil harsh, eh?
[03:31] <kanzie> I want to copy a website, images and links, what program is good for that task?
[03:31] <ikonia> Ian_L: not when he's constantly asking the same thing
[03:31] <mineur> I guess 80% of the asked questions here can be found in < 5 minuts of googling :)
[03:31] <Ian_L> ok
[03:31] <ikonia> kanzie: wget
[03:31] <Ian_L> well, thanks for trying to suggest something for my live CD issue
[03:31] <Ian_L> bye
[03:31] <satish_> Hi, I'm using Dapper and am not able to change application menus font even when change the "Application font" in Font Preferences
[03:31] <Ian_L> btw...if I continually ask the same line, will it boot me off the server?
[03:32] <Ian_L> btw...if I continually ask the same line, will it boot me off the server?
[03:32] <ikonia> Ian_L: there is a spam bot
[03:32] <Ian_L> btw...if I continually ask the same line, will it boot me off the server?
[03:32] <Ian_L> lol
[03:32] <Ian_L> btw...if I continually ask the same line, will it boot me off the server?
[03:32] <ikonia> Ian_L: don't be a pain
[03:32] <Chris-07> hi,i'm looking for some support?
[03:32] <ikonia> Chris-07: shoot
[03:32] <stefg> satish_: sometimes it takes a relogin to make the changes appaer
[03:32] <Ian_L> btw...if I continually ask the same line, will it boot me off the server?
[03:32] <Ian_L> btw...if I continually ask the same line, will it boot me off the server?
[03:32] <Ian_L> btw...if I continually ask the same line, will it boot me off the server?
[03:32] <Milosch> someone might crack your box if you keep it up
[03:32] <Ian_L> who?
[03:32] <ikonia> Ian_L: don't be a moron - or you'll get banned
[03:32] <js_> god.
[03:32] <deepsa> ikonia, thanks got it sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic
[03:33] <ikonia> deepsa: well done
[03:33] <_raphael_> I need to file a bug report about supertux. where do I do that?
[03:33] <satish_> stefg: i tried that. but the fonts just won't chage
[03:33] <ikonia> !launchpad > _raphael_
[03:33] <Ian_L> ikonia...you dont have that authority, dont threaten folks
[03:33] <ikonia> Ian_L: I'm just warning you in advance
[03:33] <ikonia> thats what will happen
[03:33] <Ian_L> and im telling you now
[03:33] <Ian_L> btw...if I continually ask the same line, will it boot me off the server?
[03:33] <stefg> satish_: hmm ... tried a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig'?
[03:33] <ikonia> !ops
[03:33] <Lynoure> !ops
[03:33] <Ian_L> btw...if I continually ask the same line, will it boot me off the server?
[03:33] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[03:33] <Chris-07> oh.ok well I recently downloaded and burned Ubuntu 6.10 desktop
[03:33] <apokryphos> Lynoure: hi
[03:33] <Seveas> Lynoure, ?
[03:34] <Lynoure> Seveas: see Ian_L
[03:34] <Chris-07> and when i run it
[03:34] <Hobbsee> Lynoure: ?
[03:34] <ikonia> Seveas: kick ban request for Ian_l
[03:34] <Seveas> fair enough
[03:34] <Seveas> he's a pita
[03:34] <Trixsey> Failed to access torrent file 'file:///home/trixsey/Desktop/n216.torrent'. Ensure sufficient temporary file space available (check browser cache usage).
[03:34] <Trixsey> What do I do? :p
[03:34] <Trixsey> lol
[03:34] <ikonia> Seveas: thanks
[03:34] <Chris-07> i click Start or Install Ubuntu
[03:34] <satish_> stefg: yes. I recently installed kde-desktop and then uninstalled it. Could that be the cause?
[03:34] <Chris-07> and then it takes me to a DOS type screen
[03:34] <jengc0il> hello
[03:35] <Chris-07> is there a certain command for me to type to show the desktop?
[03:35] <ikonia> Chris-07: sounds like your xserver is crashing
[03:35] <stefg> satish_: possible, but unlikely
[03:36] <Chris-07> xserver?
[03:36] <Gosha> now the realplayer runs at least
[03:36] <Chris-07> could you explain to me what i should do?
[03:36] <ikonia> Chris-07: yes the X-server
[03:36] <ikonia> Chris-07: what video card do you have
[03:36] <Chris-07> not sure on the video card
[03:36] <Chris-07> is it the graphics card?
[03:37] <ikonia> yes
[03:37] <Chris-07> i'm a little nooby at this
[03:37] <jengc0il> need help
[03:37] <ikonia> jengc0il: then ask for it
[03:37] <y3it221_klce> can i upgrade dapper for edgy live CD??
[03:37] <Chris-07> ATI Raedon Xpress 200
[03:37] <jengc0il> hi ikonia
[03:37] <jengc0il> dpkg-deb: unexpected end of file in version number in skype_debian-1.3.0.53-1_i386.deb
[03:37] <jengc0il> dpkg: error processing skype_debian-1.3.0.53-1_i386.deb (--install):
[03:37] <jengc0il>  subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2
[03:37] <jengc0il> Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:37] <jengc0il>  skype_debian-1.3.0.53-1_i386.deb
[03:37] <jengc0il> sorry paste
[03:37] <bulmer> Chris-07: try to do a ctrl+alt+F7 see if its there, the Xserver launched
[03:37] <ikonia> Chris-07: there are known problems with ati cards - try using the safe graphics option from the cd boot menu
[03:37] <stefg> !upgrade | y3it221_klce
[03:37] <ubotu> y3it221_klce: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:38] <stefg> !paste | jengc0il
[03:38] <ubotu> jengc0il: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[03:38] <Chris-07> i tried the safe graphics boot
[03:38] <Chris-07> it takes me to the DOS screen also
[03:38] <satish_> is there any way to restore font configuration to a fresh install state? (other that dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig. that didn't work for me))
[03:38] <Chris-07> say cannot connect to tty or ttf
[03:38] <PingunZ> Hey, I screwed up my /etc/fonts/fonts.conf, where can I get a ' clean ' one ?
[03:38] <Chris-07> says*
[03:39] <Chris-07> any idea ikonia?
[03:39] <stefg> satish_: that's what reconfiguring fontconfig does
[03:39] <ikonia> Chris-07: bulmer offered some advice
[03:39] <jengc0il> my http browser so slow to load
[03:39] <ahoj> can anyone tell me how to upload multiple files / subdirectories via ftp?
[03:39] <ikonia> he is probably stronger with ati than I
[03:39] <jengc0il> stefg sorry
[03:39] <EdgeT> Guys, how do we install grub plz?
[03:39] <Chris-07> oh
[03:39] <jengc0il> any idea?
[03:40] <stefg> !grub | EdgeT
[03:40] <ubotu> EdgeT: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:40] <bulmer> EdgeT: man grub-install
[03:40] <PingunZ> !fonts.conf
[03:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fonts.conf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:40] <PingunZ> !fonts
[03:40] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[03:40] <Chris-07> ill try bulmer,but at the DOS-type screen i press ctrl+alt+F7?
[03:40] <bulmer> Chris-07: try it, and see if its already there
[03:40] <Chris-07> ok
[03:40] <Chris-07> thank you
[03:40] <Chris-07> brb
[03:40] <EdgeT> Actually I just deleted the Ubuntu partition, since it couldn't boot the X and now I can't boot W!n
[03:41] <jengc0il> stefg: how to remove deb package installation eg skype
[03:41] <y3it221_klce> ubotu: how upgrade from a live CD??
[03:41] <jengc0il> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1432/
[03:41] <bulmer> EdgeT: how did you get to delete Ubuntu partition?
[03:41] <elysium444>  Hi! I am using ubuntu 6.10 after I did an upgrade with "apt-get upgrade" after restarting the computer I cant login properly. after I put the username and pass the system starts for 2sec and than goes blank to a terminal after 10 sec goes back to login part. I logged in as failsafe terminal I found I couldnt start beryl or xgl because the stytem goes back to the login part. How can this be solved???
[03:41] <Trixsey> Failed to access torrent file 'file:///home/trixsey/Desktop/n216.torrent'. Ensure sufficient temporary file space available (check browser cache usage).
[03:41] <Trixsey> In Azureus/Ubuntu Edgy
[03:41] <Trixsey> What do I do?
[03:41] <Trixsey> You guys have any cool ideas? :p
[03:41] <stefg> jengc0il: sudo apt-get remove --purge skype
[03:41] <ikonia> ahoj: that depends on your client
[03:41] <satish_> stefg: ok
[03:41] <ahoj> mput doesn't seem to work
[03:42] <deepsa> ikonia, how do i scan for bluetooth devices in ubuntu?
[03:42] <ahoj> ikonia: I'm using the ftp command in the terminal
[03:42] <ikonia> deepsa: you know where the wiki is
[03:42] <EdgeT> bulmer: deleted it with partition magic
[03:42] <jengc0il> stefg http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1432/
[03:42] <ikonia> ahoj: it doesn't support directory transfer
[03:43] <jengc0il> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1432/
[03:43] <elysium444> EdgeT: you have to repair windows with the cd to start it
[03:43] <ahoj> ah. bugger.
[03:43] <deepsa> ma chod wiki
[03:43] <bulmer> EdgeT: can you re-install the Ubuntu and it may detect the windows partition and take care of the mbr for you..
[03:43] <elysium444> EdgeT: because you dont have a bootloader and after the repair you will have windows bootloader
[03:43] <stefg> jengc0il: yes, so the debian pacckage doesn't work in ubuntu.. foreseeable
[03:44] <Trentster> how do i look at the history commands for someone ssh'd in on pts/1, they are in as root as well.
[03:44] <bulmer> EdgeT: like elysium444 said the bootloader maybe be repaired if you re-installed ubuntu
[03:44] <stefg> jengc0il: or you download is corrupt
[03:45] <EdgeT> elysium444: and how do I repair?
[03:45] <ikonia> stefg: probably the first option
[03:45] <Jowi> elysium444, when you installed xgl did you alter /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf-custom?
[03:45] <bulmer> Trentster: look at your /var/log/messages
[03:45] <elysium444>  Jowi: I dont remember
[03:45] <EdgeT> bulmer: Yeah but since no Ubuntu copies work with my new pc, I'm just gonna use the windoze bootloader
[03:45] <koen_> Hi guys
[03:45] <koen_> I've got this problem...
[03:46] <koen_> I'm trying to setup my dual screen
[03:46] <ikonia> why do people constantly call it Windoze its the same ammount of letters as windows
[03:46] <Jowi> elysium444, cat /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf-custom and see if there's any information beneath [servers] 
[03:46] <koen_> Nothing though of any information...
[03:46] <elysium444>  EdgeT: you repair it by installing ubuntu again or by putting the windows cd and start repairing windows
[03:46] <stefg> !xinerama | koen_
[03:46] <ubotu> koen_: xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[03:46] <elysium444>  Jowi: I will check now
[03:46] <EdgeT> elysium444:  can't I just install grub on the windoze partition from within the live cd?
[03:46] <bulmer> EdgeT: you may try other Linux distro, to recover that mbr portion...I find it difficult to recover the mbr with windows own bootloader
[03:47] <ikonia> bulmer: its impressive if you can do that, thats very tricky
[03:47] <bulmer> ikonia: using windows bootloader? yeah its awfully difficult
[03:48] <ikonia> bulmer: no kidding
[03:48] <PingunZ> What package installs the /etc/fonts/fonts.conf
[03:48] <bulmer> thats why i suggest installing other Linux distro if possible
[03:48] <PingunZ> PLEASE.
[03:48] <PingunZ> :)
[03:49] <EdgeT> can't I just install grub on the windoze partition from the live cd?
[03:49] <Gosha> !quicktime
[03:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:49] <Gosha> !samr
[03:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about samr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:49] <cappiz> anyone here ever used a fingerprint reader for auth in ubuntu?
[03:49] <ikonia> cappiz: I tried on my old thinkpad
[03:50] <ikonia> support for apps using it was very imature
[03:50] <bulmer> PingunZ: if it was rpm based, there is a command using rpm to tell you which package uses that file, maybe you dig-up info on dpkg and it may have an equivalent
[03:50] <cappiz> ikonia, okey... have you ever tried LUKS aswel ?
[03:50] <jengc0il> stefg: yeah i think my download corrupt
[03:50] <jengc0il> :)
[03:50] <ikonia> cappiz: no
[03:50] <cappiz> the pam_mount
[03:50] <cappiz> ok.
[03:50] <cappiz> darn
[03:50] <elysium444> jowi: I dont think is there the problem
[03:51] <PingunZ> bulmer, I'm using ubuntu, it is deb based.
[03:51] <PingunZ> and I don't have the fonts.conf anymore
[03:51] <PingunZ> so I need to know the package
[03:51] <bulmer> PingunZ: i know, thats why I suggest digging up info on using pckg command
[03:51] <ikonia> PingunZ: he's just given you a hint
[03:51] <ikonia> on what to do
[03:51] <ikonia> so you learn yourself
[03:52] <PingunZ> !pckg
[03:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pckg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:52] <bulmer> I actually dont know the parameters/options on dpkg to tell me what is installed and what not
[03:52] <EdgeT> Guys I think I'm fucked up, I need to boot windoze and I don't wanna install ubuntu since it doesn't work
[03:52] <ikonia> !panguage
[03:52] <ikonia> !language
[03:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about panguage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:52] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:52] <Jowi> elysium444, it depends on how xgl/beryl is started (as a replacement for X as aiglx does it or if it is a login script) in the first place. and if it is installed now after the upgrade. you could try to create a new user and login with that to see if that works.
[03:52] <ikonia> why do you constantly call it windoze
[03:53] <EdgeT> Cuz it sux
[03:53] <EdgeT> Tho, I need it for now
[03:53] <ahoj> maybe from the verb, doze?
[03:53] <ikonia> ughhh such terrile language
[03:53] <ahoj> ie it's slow?
[03:53] <ikonia> tho, cuz etc etc
[03:53] <bulmer> EdgeT: may I suggest another Linux distro that may work on your laptop, an install of another Linux will perhaps detect your windows partition and recover it
[03:53] <EdgeT> ahoj: Yeah lol
[03:53] <ahoj> very clever
[03:53] <elysium444> Ok I will try creating a new user
[03:54] <EdgeT> bulmer: Don't have the time to download another one, since it'd take all day, tho, do you know how to set X to start on a 1024x768x32 or 16 cuz the live cd works perfectly but not when I install it
[03:54] <PingunZ> bulmer, I don't see what you mean by using a dpkg-command ? I don't have fonts.conf anymore, so how can I possible trace what package installed it.
[03:55] <ahoj> Can anyone tell me how I can find out my own IP using the terminal?
[03:55] <gandalfcome_> i have a problem with my dual screen setup (ati). I get a mouse offset on one screen. Please help
[03:55] <ikonia> PingunZ: he's given you a massive hint
[03:55] <ikonia> yet you won't even man it
[03:55] <ikonia> gandalfcome_: its a know problem. no fix
[03:55] <koen_> Hi
[03:55] <koen_> I'm back
[03:56] <koen_> I've got dual screen, but now the prob is that my main screen is the wrong one ^^
[03:56] <PingunZ> ikonia, man dpkg ?
[03:56] <IdleOne> ahoj: xdsl-213-196-201-201.netcologne.de has address 213.196.201.201
[03:56] <ikonia> koen_: swap them roung
[03:56] <gandalfcome_> ikonia, well at least I got an answer ;-) do you know if it works with the radeon drivers?
[03:56] <bulmer> EdgeT: live cd has the resolution maxed out at VGA 800x600  to compensate for older vga cards
[03:56] <ahoj> IdleOne: yeah, but isn't there a terminal command to do it?
[03:56] <ikonia> gandalfcome_: I don't think you can get any of the visual effects though
[03:56] <koen_> ikonia, I kinda wanted something else...
[03:56] <ikonia> koen_: what did you want ?
[03:56] <koen_> ikonia, It's flatpanel and CRT
[03:56] <IdleOne> ahoj: I dont know of one :/
[03:56] <gandalfcome_> ikonia, doesnt matter I just need dual screen and a bit of 2d accel
[03:56] <ikonia> koen_: so ?
[03:56] <ikonia> gandalfcome_: should work
[03:57] <koen_> ikonia, I don't want to replace them in real life you get it? I want the software thingy...
[03:57] <ikonia> koen_: you don't need softare
[03:57] <elysium444> Jowi: after creating the new account the system starts ok but without beryl
[03:57] <ikonia> swap them in the config file
[03:57] <EdgeT> bulmer: yeah tho when I install ubuntu, X can't detect my screen (laptop)
[03:57] <bulmer> PingunZ: for example on rpm, there is an option to tell you which of the rpm packages uses a particular file, i will assume that dpkg has similar options to tell you which files belongs to which package
[03:57] <koen_> ikonia, how? I'm simply following the Xineramahowto of ubuntu community documentation
[03:57] <Nielsken> someone can help me configure a wireless connection
[03:57] <Jowi> elysium444, run "beryl-manager" in a terminal and see if it starts
[03:58] <ikonia> koen_: look at the config - you define two screens - one is the left one is the right
[03:59] <bulmer> EdgeT: do you know if the video card on your laptop support low resolution?
[03:59] <EdgeT> bulmer: you mean 800*600? Yeah it does
[03:59] <elysium444> Jowi: same problem, the screen turn black and goes to the login part
[03:59] <gandalfcome_> ikonia, is there a good howto for dualscreen  with radeon drivers
[03:59] <ikonia> gandalfcome_: no
[03:59] <Gosha> !pastebin
[03:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:00] <Jowi> elysium444, probably a problem with xgl. re-install it.
[04:00] <gandalfcome_> ikonia, I must say you are very direct :)
[04:00] <Owner> hi  again
[04:00] <bulmer> EdgeT: what exactly happens when you attempt to install ubuntu? you pressed f2 (i think) to select resolution?
[04:00] <kanzie> I cant get my mirrorint with wget to work...can someone help me
[04:00] <Owner> ctrl+alt+F7 didnt do anything
[04:00] <Gosha> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1433/ <-- that means it doesn't support samr, right?
[04:00] <Jowi> elysium444, and make sure to doublecheck your xorg.conf that DRI and composite are enabled
[04:00] <ikonia> kanzie: no
[04:00] <Bluedog> !ipod
[04:00] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[04:00] <elysium444> Jowi: thanks I will try
[04:00] <Chris-07> ikonia
[04:01] <Chris-07> it said
[04:01] <kanzie> ikonia: mohaha... having your period are you!
[04:01] <ikonia> no
[04:01] <EdgeT> bulmer: Well, it boots even with the defaults, tho, after the installation, the screen's black when it tries to boot X, and it freezes, since I can't switch to a tty
[04:01] <Chris-07> cannot access tty
[04:01] <Lynoure> kanzie: that's just rude of you.
[04:01] <Bluedog> any recommendations regarding linux ipod software guys?
[04:01] <joshua__> hey folks, how can I clear my mbr? I'm having an issue installing ubuntu that I have not had in the past with this very same cd, installer gets stuck on grub install...
[04:01] <NaPsTeR> wats the command to move a folder?
[04:01] <jrib> NaPsTeR: mv
[04:01] <jrib> !cli | NaPsTeR
[04:01] <ubotu> NaPsTeR: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[04:01] <kanzie> Lynoure: ...since ikonia was so polite and all... give it a break
[04:01] <NaPsTeR> caus ewhen i try in the gui it ses i dont have permission
[04:02] <NaPsTeR> wats the best thing to do?
[04:02] <jrib> NaPsTeR: what folder?
[04:02] <ikonia> kanzie: I just said no
[04:02] <zugu> hello
[04:02] <Chris-07> ikonia:is there a text interface for ubuntu 6.10?
[04:02] <bulmer> EdgeT: you can access console via  ctrl+alt+f1 to f5 right?
[04:02] <zugu> where can I find vlc 0.8.6 for ubuntu dapper?
[04:02] <EdgeT> bulmer: Nope, it freezes
[04:02] <NaPsTeR> i downloaded a plugin for amsn and it ses u must extract it to the folder /usr/share/amsn
[04:02] <Chris-07> bulmer
[04:02] <EdgeT> bulmer: Tho, it works in the recovery mode
[04:02] <NaPsTeR> but it ses i dont have permission
[04:03] <NaPsTeR> so wat do ido?
[04:03] <ikonia> Chris-07: try waiting longer than 5 seconds for a reply before pesting people
[04:03] <hilde> #drupal
[04:03] <kanzie> ikonia: I know... I can read... and I asked if someone can help... there are 961 users in this channel, I doubt you asked them all... if you can help, tell me, if not, dont say anything... as is custom
[04:03] <Chris-07> sorry
[04:03] <bulmer> Chris-07: the consoles are in ctrl+alt+f1 to f5
[04:03] <Lynoure> kanzie: he should not have necessarily said no, but what you said made me want not to help you either.
[04:03] <elysium444> Jowi: I cant find DRI in xorg.conf. I found "composite" "enable"
[04:03] <ikonia> kanzie: there is a wget tutorial on the wget help
[04:04] <ikonia> but I bet you don't want that, you want someone to give you the exact commands
[04:04] <Milosch> EdgeT: in recovery mode, would putting an exit; in /etc/init.d/gdm help you?
[04:04] <bulmer> EdgeT: when in recovery mode, you can mount the hard disk and manipulate the files right?
[04:04] <kanzie> ikonia: I know...I have read it through, also tried a few googles... but it seems I cant get it to save it properly...
[04:04] <jrib> NaPsTeR: what plugin?
[04:04] <WereCatf> Uhmm, this may sound like a stupid question, but in which file do I add any commands I want executed automatically when the computer is turned on?
[04:04] <ikonia> kanzie: whats the site
[04:04] <kanzie> ill keep researching, eventually Ill get it...
[04:04] <coNP> WereCatf: you can do it via cron
[04:04] <EdgeT> bulmer: yeah, it even started X tho, in normal mode, it's the same crap
[04:04] <kanzie> ikonia:  www.qualityresorts.no/se/index.php
[04:04] <joshua__> hey folks, how can I clear my mbr? I'm having an issue installing ubuntu that I have not had in the past with this very same cd, installer gets stuck on grub install...
[04:04] <bulmer> WereCatf: on /etc/init.d/  are startup scripts
[04:04] <EdgeT> Milosch: I dunno, haven't tried that I think
[04:04] <ikonia> kanzie: it won't work as its a php site
[04:05] <Jowi> elysium444, DRI is needed: Section "DRI" [new line]  Mode 0666 [new line]  EndSection
[04:05] <ikonia> thats executed on the server side
[04:05] <Milosch> would at least let you in to work using startx, etc
[04:05] <EdgeT> Milosch: I don't even know how to
[04:05] <WereCatf> so I'm supposed to edit some startup script for that?
[04:05] <joshua__> anyone?
[04:05] <coNP> joshua__: dd?
[04:05] <kanzie> ikonia: but it should be possible to read it as html and convert links
[04:05] <kanzie> no?
[04:05] <coNP> joshua__: what exactly do you want to do?
[04:05] <ikonia> not convert links no
[04:05] <kanzie> ikonia:  trying wget --mirror w 1 p -v --force-html -convert-links P /var/www/qualityhotels.se/ http://www.qualityresort.no/se/
[04:05] <elysium444> Jowi: I have no DRI section
[04:05] <ikonia> kanzie: I doubt that would work
[04:05] <kanzie> ikonia: so what software _can_ I use?
[04:05] <bulmer> EdgeT: then you upon mounting those files, you have to play with /etc/X11/xorg.conf to set and match the video card on your laptop, so that in normal boot mode, it can detect the matching video driver and such
[04:05] <ikonia> you can't really - mirroring dynamic sites is tough
[04:06] <zugu> where can I find vlc 0.8.6 for ubuntu dapper?
[04:06] <elysium444>  Jowi: what do I do? reinstal xgl???
[04:06] <Jowi> elysium444, that's why you need to add it. (see previous post from me)
[04:06] <kanzie> ikonia: I've done it a zillion times in windows so it shouldnt be a problem... it is not the php-code Im looking for, but make it browsable offline
[04:06] <elysium444> Jowi: ok thanks
[04:07] <joshua__> coNP: I want to do anything I can to ease the installation seeing as that it only goes as far as grub install now, and gets stuck there. So I thought perhaps clearing the mbr before installing might help.
[04:07] <EdgeT> bulmer: I don't even know what I should do in there
[04:07] <EdgeT> bulmer: Brb
[04:07] <bulmer> ikonia: specially if that web site uses cocoon2..practically everything is dynamically generated...lolz
[04:07] <ikonia> kanzie: I didn't say it wasn't possible just awkward
[04:07] <gfxkale> morning
[04:07] <ikonia> morning
[04:07] <Chris-07> bulmer when i put in the burned ubuntu disc in and restart my computer it shows a screen and i click Start or Install Ubuntu button and it loads and goes to a black screen ,is this normal?
[04:07] <ikonia> Chris-07: no its not
[04:08] <Milosch> Chris-07: try the next line, safe display or something
[04:08] <dawson> hello, I am running a acer notebook, amd turion64, ati graphics, broadcom 4381 wireless. have installed 64 edgy, but am unable to get my wireless supported. Have tried to run ndiswrapper but am told i have an incompatible kernel, have installed newer kernels but when i select them from grub they just hang on the ubuntu logo. any sugestions??
[04:08] <Chris-07> hmm from my situation what do you think the problem is ikonia?
[04:08] <Chris-07> i've tried Milosch but thanks
[04:08] <elysium444>  Jowi: "xserver-xgl" is this the package I have to remove and install
[04:08] <ikonia> Chris-07: that your video card isn't supported
[04:08] <Milosch> k
[04:09] <bulmer> Chris-07: you have a selection menu too for the resolution, so choose that and set it for lower resolution
[04:09] <Milosch> Chris-07: in my case I had to use the ALT cd to install text mode, then fix later
[04:09] <coNP> joshua__: I am not sure if it does any sense, however if you are familiar with dd you can directly overwrite your MBR with anything. However, this can be really dangerous (if you make a mistake, your full hard drive can become unreadable)
[04:09] <Chris-07> is there a list of oh
[04:09] <Chris-07> oh*
[04:09] <joshua__> coNP I don't want to overwrite it with anything, just clear it is that not possible?
[04:10] <coNP> joshua__: what do you mean by clearing?
[04:10] <Chris-07> i have a 1440x900 monitor though
[04:10] <joshua__> coNP there is nothing on the drive right now anyways
[04:10] <coNP> joshua__: there have to be something written in the MBR...
[04:10] <Jowi> elysium444, I don't know. I use aiglx. follow the instructions you followed the first time to install it.
[04:10] <joshua__> coNP thats where I set grub to be installed to
[04:11] <ikonia> there is a known search term to fix the issue with the reboot/power off button dissapearing off the menu. I can't think of the term
[04:11] <bulmer> Chris-07: the cdrom has the resolution set to low res of 800x600 so as others suggested you may have to use text install if graphical would not do for you
[04:11] <ikonia> the wiki/forums search brings up gdm - rather than gnome desktop bugs
[04:11] <linuxero> jijijiji
[04:11] <coNP> joshua__: I think clearing it does not make any sense, sorry.
[04:11] <Chris-07> oh
[04:12] <Chris-07> how exactly would I install it,the text way?
[04:12] <zugu> where can I find vlc 0.8.6 for ubuntu dapper?
[04:12] <joshua__> coNP http://linuxgazette.net/issue63/okopnik.html
[04:12] <bulmer> Chris-07: i think someone suggested a different alt cdrom...its a different download
[04:12] <apokryphos> zugu: you probably can't
[04:12] <dawson> hello, I am running a acer notebook, amd turion64, ati graphics, broadcom 4381 wireless. have installed 64 edgy, but am unable to get my wireless supported. Have tried to run ndiswrapper but am told i have an incompatible kernel, have installed newer kernels but when i select them from grub they just hang on the ubuntu logo. any sugestions??
[04:12] <apokryphos> zugu: you could grab the edgy deb src and recompile though
[04:13] <coNP> joshua__: yes it uses dd as I suggested
[04:13] <Chris-07> would it still show up with graphics e.g:having a taskbar and icons
[04:13] <Chris-07> ?
[04:13] <bulmer> text is text..no graphics :)
[04:13] <joshua__> right and it uses the words "clearing mbr"
[04:13] <ikonia> dawson: your card isn't supporter under ubuntu64
[04:14] <pip`> problem: my screen display is way to big for my monitor, how do i decrease my display size ??
[04:14] <pip`> to fit the monitor
[04:14] <coNP> joshua__: okay. It is only a question of naming things, however. Actually it overwrites the MBR with a bunch of zeroes.
[04:14] <pip`> i tried settings-display and typed in my admin pw etc, but none of the buttons would work
[04:14] <_ozan_> herkese selam
[04:14] <pip`> the screen-size slide wont move  :((
[04:14] <BigToe> !cab
[04:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:15] <BigToe> How do I open a .cab archive?
[04:15] <Owner> i'm Chris-07 so would the text installation still show the desktop?
[04:15] <Jowi> !cabextract
[04:15] <ubotu> cabextract: a program to extract Microsoft Cabinet files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1-1 (edgy), package size 43 kB, installed size 144 kB
[04:15] <kenthomson> hello!
[04:15] <bulmer> no desktop icons..just text
[04:15] <pip`> my desktop runs off my monitor on all sides :((
[04:15] <BigToe> thanks
[04:15] <pip`> help help
[04:16] <BigToe> pip`, you need to adjust your monitor for that
[04:16] <BigToe> using the buttons on the front or side
[04:16] <Owner> ok thank you
[04:16] <BigToe> :S
[04:16] <pip`> hmm, i already tried adjusting my monitor using the calibration button
[04:17] <kenthomson> As the Azureus package in Ubuntu Edgy repo is broken, i went to azureus.sf.net and downloaded the .jar file for the latest version. I extracted that file to desktop, and now i have a azureus folder on my desktop which in turn contains other folders/files. Can someone tell me how do i run/install azureus from the jar that i downloaded?
[04:17] <bulmer> pip`: under the menus of preferences, there should be a resolution selection
[04:17] <_gast_> someone can help me with a wireless connection please
[04:17] <coNP> kenthomson: java -jar <your jar file> ?
[04:17] <gfxkale> how do you disable the server messages (ie the people entering/exiting room) it's been way to long since I messed with irc
[04:18] <kenthomson> coNP, what is the question mark doing at the end of your sentence? I don't know anything
[04:18] <ikonia> _gast_: the broadcom ?
[04:18] <_gast_> broadcom?
[04:18] <Zelda> hello everyone.
[04:18] <kenthomson> Anyone? How do i install from a jar file?
[04:18] <bulmer> kenthomson: azureus is java based, thats how you run a java program  java -jar filename.jar
[04:19] <zugu> where can I find vlc 0.8.6 for ubuntu dapper?
[04:19] <ikonia> _gast_: never mind it was dawson not you
[04:19] <erUSUL> kenthomson: you execute the jar file like this 'java -jar file.jar'
[04:19] <Zelda> vlc website
[04:19] <zugu> Zelda: it's not there
[04:19] <Gosha> !amr
[04:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:19] <ikonia> whats vlc ?
[04:19] <Lynx-> is there an ubuntu version that would utilize a Pentium 4 as a 64-bit processor, not as two 32-bit ones?
[04:19] <Zelda> video lan codec
[04:19] <zugu> ikonia: Video LAN player
[04:19] <Zelda> it plays pretty much anything
[04:19] <ikonia> Lynx-: no - its a 32bit processor
[04:20] <Gosha> how do i play 3gp files on ubuntu ( that has the audio codeced in samr/amr) ?
[04:20] <ikonia> Zelda: thank you
[04:20] <adub> is there a program like netstumbler for linux that is more user friendly than kismet i like kismet but i want a more GUI type thing
[04:20] <Zelda> ikonia: youre welcome
[04:20] <Lynx-> ikonia, then explain me why 32-bit ubuntu recognizes the cpu as two 32-bit logical processors?
[04:20] <kenthomson> bulmer, erUSUL, i downloaded the jar file from their site, how do i install it/put it into my system? And on doing the following: ken@ken-ubuntu:~/Desktop$ java -jar Azureus2.5.0.0.jar
[04:20] <kenthomson> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/commons/cli/CommandLine
[04:20] <adub> where i can toggle fast between a packet rate graph etc
[04:21] <ikonia> Lynx-: becasue its a 32bit processing with HT
[04:21] <Zelda> lynx: cause you have duak core?
[04:21] <Zelda> er dual or HT
[04:21] <ikonia> what has 2 processors got to do with 64bit  ???
[04:21] <Lynx-> I have no dual cores
[04:21] <ikonia> you have a P4 HT
[04:21] <Lynx-> yes, i do
[04:21] <bulmer> kenthomson: does the azureus web site have README files for how to install it?
[04:21] <Zelda> then its HT hyper threading technology
[04:21] <kenthomson> bulmer, let me see it
[04:21] <ikonia> thats got a processor core style technology - thats HT
[04:21] <ikonia> simulates 2 processors
[04:22] <ikonia> (thats the short answer)
[04:22] <Lynx-> And what are the advantages of the HT?
[04:22] <bulmer> kenthomson: fyi...jar file is very much like an archived file (tar)
[04:22] <ikonia> 2 processors
[04:22] <Zelda> anyone know how I can go into terminal and change the default sound output from my onboard to my sound card?
[04:22] <Lynx-> if physically it is still 1 processor
[04:22] <Bluedog> can run multiple threads at once :P
[04:22] <Bluedog> partially
[04:22] <Bluedog> its not perfect
[04:22] <ikonia> Lynx-: thats right
[04:23] <Zelda> yeah but it allows better multitasking
[04:23] <kenthomson> bulmer, i extracted it too! i got a howto from that site, letme go through it
[04:23] <bulmer> cool
[04:24] <Zelda> lynx: did you catch that?
[04:24] <Lynx-> mb
[04:24] <Lynx-> I have another question
[04:24] <lilly> i have problem with samba. i dun see my computer in the workgroup even though im viewing from the system with the samba share.. help pls
[04:25] <Zelda> Can anyone answer my question?
[04:25] <ikonia> Zelda: sorry, not sure how
[04:25] <Zelda> lilly: is it firewalled?
[04:25] <ustcer> cool
[04:25] <lilly> Zelda: i stopped firestarter and its still the same
[04:26] <Lynx-> If there is a running program without HT support, I see that only one logical processor is used, another is idle. Is the system utilizing all the 3,06Ghz in this case, or is uses just a half of that?
[04:26] <Trixsey> How do I open a torrent file with azureus?
[04:26] <Trixsey> azureus --file?
[04:26] <gfxkale> zelda, can you shut off the onboard sound via bios?
[04:26] <Daveym> Can Someone Help How I Get newsleecher And Teamspeak Getting at my linux?
[04:27] <Desperado88> c' nesusno?
[04:27] <ikonia> Lynx-: this isn't really anything to do with ubuntu - this is basic x86 hardware
[04:27] <Trixsey> How do I write if I want to execute the file $file (whatever file I click)
[04:27] <Trixsey> a universal command for all torrent files
[04:27] <Zelda> yeah I can disable it. Thats easy, but I've been helped by someone who showed me how to through terminal to change the default to my sound card
[04:27] <ikonia> Lynx-: basiclly your OS is aware of both chips so it will manage it for you
[04:27] <Trixsey> azureus $file &?
[04:28] <Zelda> lilly: I wish I knew more about samba. Im sorry
[04:28] <gfxkale> Zelda, I dont know about that, but if you arent using the onboard sound why have it enabled?
[04:28] <Trixsey> Zelda, if I want to run all .torrent files with a command (azureus *torrent* &)
[04:28] <Trixsey> how should I do?
[04:28] <bulmer> Trixsey: try  java -jar azureus.jar  optionfile1
[04:28] <Trixsey> what is the "variable" for current filename
[04:28] <Trixsey> ok
[04:28] <mettao87> hi
[04:29] <mettao87> i have this problem
[04:29] <mettao87> mettao87@mettao87-desktop:~$ sudo aticonfig --initial
[04:29] <mettao87> Found fglrx primary device section
[04:29] <mettao87> Nothing to do, terminating.
[04:29] <mettao87> mettao87@mettao87-desktop:~$
[04:29] <lilly> Zelda: ok :(
[04:29] <craigbass1976> lilly, what's the trouble?
[04:29] <ubuntu> hi
[04:29] <craigbass1976> not sure if I can help either, but...
[04:29] <mettao87> what can i do for activate 3d on ati radeon??
[04:29] <georgia_> how do I mount reiserfs?
[04:29] <kenthomson> bulmer, i am kind of lost :(
[04:29] <adub> dsniff: nids_init:    when i run dsniff ath0  i get that output
[04:29] <Zelda> craig: lilly's having samba issues
[04:29] <craigbass1976> lilly, is everything linux, or is there a windows box involved?
[04:29] <lilly> craigbass1976: i have a samba share setup in ubuntu but i cant even see the share from the system itself.. i have firestarter disabled
[04:30] <adub> dsniff: nids_init: no suitable device found
[04:30] <adub> can someone help on this please
[04:30] <bulmer> kenthomson: sorry cant help you on that..lolz
[04:30] <craigbass1976> lilly, what about iptables?
[04:30] <lilly> craigbass1976: i cant see the share in windows too
[04:30] <lilly> craigbass1976: i have no experience with iptables.. wat shd i do
[04:30] <craigbass1976> /etc/init.d/iptables stop
[04:30] <Milosch> lilly: can you see ANY shares?
[04:30] <Trixsey> bulmer, doesn't work at all
[04:30] <Trixsey> and when I do
[04:30] <Trixsey> azureus optionfile1
[04:31] <Trixsey> it says
[04:31] <kenthomson> bulmer, i am kind of lost installing the azureus.jar, now?
[04:31] <Trixsey> "can't open optionfile1"
[04:31] <lilly> Milosch: i can see my windows share
[04:31] <craigbass1976> lilly, at least until you get things working, then you can open up a hole for samba
[04:31] <kenthomson> !iptables
[04:31] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[04:31] <bulmer> Trixsey: try              java -jar azureus.jar  optionfile1
[04:31] <Milosch> lilly: i mean shares on the box running samba
[04:31] <Trixsey> I tried that
[04:31] <Trixsey> nothing happens
[04:31] <pip`> bulmer, preferences ?  where do i find preferences ?
[04:31] <Zelda> gfxkale: I dont necessarily need onboard enabled, however I know theres a way to manually disable it in terminal, or to tell linux to use my sound card by default instead of the onboard audio
[04:31] <Adsum> does anyone know where i can get glade's gnome m4 macros?
[04:31] <craigbass1976> Can you post your conf file somewhere?
[04:31] <craigbass1976> lilly, Can you post your conf file somewhere?
[04:31] <kenthomson> Tristan, you got azureus installed from WHERE?
[04:31] <lilly> Milosch: nope.. i only have 1 system running linux
[04:31] <lilly> craigbass1976: ok hold on
[04:31] <bulmer> Trixsey: i suggest you read up on the README file that came with azureus..as i suggested to the other person
[04:31] <Trixsey> Unable to access jarfile azureus.jar
[04:32] <Trixsey> bulmer, is this new in Azureus 2.5.0.2?
[04:32] <kenthomson> Tristan, that was not for you
[04:32] <Milosch> ok, it makes a difference whether or not you can see the machine at all, some shares or no shares, no access, etc.
[04:32] <craigbass1976> lilly, did you start samba?
[04:32] <bulmer> pip` on the menus above..preferences
[04:32] <kenthomson> Trixsey, you got azureus installed from where?
[04:32] <Trixsey> repos
[04:32] <vakosel> hi all !^ new to the community! how can use apt-get to install base c compiler tools?
[04:32] <ubuntu> i use Hercules 3d prophet 4000 xt(Kyro chipset). Compatible with (k)ubuntu?
[04:32] <adaptr> !build-essential
[04:32] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:32] <lilly> craigbass1976: yes i did sudo /etc/init.d/samba start
[04:32] <kenthomson> ubuntu, what a NICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:32] <craigbass1976> lilly, ok
[04:33] <vakosel> thx !
[04:33] <Nielsken> ive donwloaded u linux drver vor my wifi usb receiver. How can i install it
[04:33] <bulmer> Trixsey: in java, you have to set the correct JAVAPATH
[04:33] <Trixsey> bulmer, what?
[04:33] <Zelda> anyone know how to disable something manually in terminal?
[04:33] <Trixsey> Azureus works
[04:33] <bulmer> so if you are running if off in the wrong directory it would not run
[04:34] <ubuntu__>  i use Hercules 3d prophet 4000 xt(Kyro chipset). Compatible with (k)ubuntu?
[04:34] <craigbass1976> Zelda, like what?>
[04:34] <Trixsey> my problem is I can't open torrents
[04:34] <Trixsey> I can do
[04:34] <kenthomson> Trixsey, from where did you install azureus
[04:34] <Trixsey> azureus &
[04:34] <Trixsey> I just can't open torrents
[04:34] <kenthomson> bulmer, i can't figure out how to install it
[04:34] <Trixsey> kenthomson, like I said.. ubuntu repos
[04:34] <Zelda> my onboard audio. I want to disable it so I can use my sound card.
[04:34] <Milosch> Zelda: maybe you should consider how to make the card load before the onboard
[04:34] <kenthomson> Trixsey, that's broken!!!
[04:34] <Trixsey> ya
[04:34] <Trixsey> I fixed that :p
[04:34] <lilly> craigbass1976: here's my smb.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1435/
[04:34] <craigbass1976> Zelda, no.
[04:34] <kenthomson> Trixsey, ???
[04:34] <ubuntu__>  i use Hercules 3d prophet 4000 xt(Kyro chipset). Compatible with (k)ubuntu?
[04:34] <Trixsey> downloaded a new Azureus2.5.0.2.jar
[04:34] <Trixsey> renamed it to Azureus2.jar
[04:34] <Zelda> yeah thats how someone helped me before. Can someone help?
[04:35] <pip`> bulmer, menus above.. what ? on my kubuntu desktop or monitor or ?
[04:35] <Trixsey> replaced my old Azureus2.jar
[04:35] <kenthomson> Trixsey, ok, then?
[04:35] <adub> does anyone know how i can get dsniff to work with my wireless card     dsniff: nids_init: no suitable device found  i get that output when i run dsniff ath0
[04:35] <Trixsey> it's working as it should, except I get that error
[04:35] <pip`> bulmer, or under settings ?
[04:35] <bulmer> pip` hang on..i have to boot my machine..it was off
[04:35] <Trixsey> Failed to access torrent file 'file:///home/trixsey/Desktop/n216.torrent'. Ensure sufficient temporary file space available (check browser cache usage).
[04:35] <kenthomson> Trixsey, :(
[04:35] <pip`> bulmer, ok
[04:35] <Trixsey> I can drag+drop
[04:35] <Trixsey> but I can't "run" the torrent files
[04:35] <Trixsey> lol
[04:35] <Milosch> Zelda: if using alsa, it might be easier to start with alsaconf, which you may need to locate yourself
[04:35] <kenthomson> Trixsey, you can through the GUI, right?
[04:35] <bayziders> How would i designate all say .mp3s in a folder?
[04:35] <kenthomson> !alsa
[04:35] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[04:35] <Trixsey> kenthomson, yes
[04:35] <Trixsey> but I wanted it to work this way too :(
[04:36] <kenthomson> bulmer, :(
[04:36] <Zelda> Milosch: thanks Ill do some more research
[04:36] <coNP> Trixsey: is not that the temp directory is not writable by your user?
[04:36] <Milosch> Zelda: then you can play with settings such as alias sound-card-0 etc in /etc/modprobe.d/
[04:36] <Trixsey> coNP, oh?
[04:36] <craigbass1976> lilly, what's your setup?  Is everything behind another firewall?
[04:36] <Trixsey> coNP, before I upgraded it worked though?
[04:36] <bulmer> kenthomson: you have the java jre or jdk loaded already right?
[04:36] <georgia_> i have installed ubuntu i used suse 10 before
[04:36] <Trixsey> coNP, can I change tmp dir?
[04:36] <Milosch> Zelda: or, those may be there already and you can adjust them
[04:37] <adaptr> bayziders: "designate" ?
[04:37] <lilly> craigbass1976: 1 windows 1 linux box connected to a router. no systems have firewalls (i tihnk... i never touch iptables and i disabled firestarter)
[04:37] <Milosch>  /etc/modprobe.d/aliases options or alsa-base or so
[04:37] <coNP> Trixsey: look at Azureus preferences, there is a config option where to put torrent  files by default
[04:37] <adub> does anyone know how i can get dsniff to work with my wireless card     dsniff: nids_init: no suitable device found  i get that output when i run dsniff ath0
[04:37] <Bluedog> Hey, whats the linux command for 'netstat -a' in windows? ie see all open connections..
[04:37] <kenthomson> bulmer, yeah both from Ubuntu's repos, SUN's
[04:37] <Bluedog> also ipconfig, linux equivalent
[04:37] <bulmer> pip` in the menus, under System->preferences-screen resolution
[04:37] <georgia_> now i want to copy my settings from my home (suse) dictonary to my ubuntu home dictonary
[04:37] <lilly> Bluedog: ifconfig
[04:37] <georgia_> suse is reiserfs
[04:37] <georgia_> how can i mount this ?
[04:37] <bulmer> kenthomson: do this to check.. java -version
[04:38] <Bluedog> thanks :)
[04:38] <craigbass1976> lilly, So the router has a firewall?
[04:38] <kenthomson> bulmer, ken@ken-ubuntu:~/Desktop$ java -jar Azureus2.5.0.0.jar
[04:38] <kenthomson> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/commons/cli/CommandLine
[04:38] <Zelda> Milosch: both are already installed. Ive tried to manually change them through System>Pref>Sound to my SB Live card instead of the onboard. However, when I close it, it goes right back
[04:38] <bayziders> adapter like designate for the "mv" command
[04:38] <kenthomson> bulmer, no WAIT, wrong paste
[04:38] <kenthomson> bulmer, ken@ken-ubuntu:~$ java -version
[04:38] <kenthomson> java version "1.5.0_08"
[04:38] <kenthomson> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_08-b03)
[04:38] <kenthomson> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_08-b03, mixed mode, sharing)
[04:39] <lilly> craigbass1976: the router has no firewall
[04:39] <bulmer> kenthomson: that looks okay
[04:39] <n2diy> bayziders: adapter: select?
[04:39] <bayziders> that works
[04:39] <kenthomson> bulmer, can you tell me how do i install from jar file?
[04:39] <kenthomson> bulmer, i extracted it and it spit out a bunch of gibrish in the form of files and folders
[04:39] <wireful9001> hey, how can you do fdisk from ubuntu?
[04:39] <kenthomson> bulmer, :(
[04:39] <bulmer> kenthomson: fyi...jar file is very much like an archived file (tar)..but dont use tar to untar it
[04:40] <Milosch> Zelda: do the cards use different drivers?
[04:40] <kenthomson> bulmer, ok untared it back, NOW
[04:40] <kenthomson> ?
[04:40] <bulmer> hang on..
[04:41] <craigbass1976> lilly, send me an email.  I've got to get going now, but I'll look at this.  I've set up 3 servers, but they were all different, and this is something I should be better at.  cparker@candocomputerservices.com  Just send a blank one or something so I have a mail to reply to.
[04:41] <Zelda> Milosch: I would assume. One is AC' Audio, and the other is Creative Labs
[04:41] <lilly> craigbass1976: ok :)
[04:41] <Milosch> Zelda: can you open /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[04:41] <Milosch> or edit
[04:41] <vakosel> how do i install c header files?
[04:41] <abo> what program would I use to rip an audio cd?
[04:41] <jab> every time i reboot i have to manually enter "iwconfig wlan0 essid lan0 essid [myWiFiNetwork] ; dhclient wlan0" to get wireless up
[04:42] <Zelda> milosch: let me check
[04:42] <craigbass1976> lilly, might take a day or two, depends on how well this windows box I've got on my bench follows orders.
[04:42] <Trixsey> coNP, I tried, but it didn't work
[04:42] <Trixsey> same error
[04:42] <lilly> craigbass1976: sure! thanks!
[04:42] <kenthomson> trixse
[04:42] <craigbass1976> Bye all
[04:42] <Trixsey> if I want to run azureus with a custom command
[04:42] <Trixsey> how do I do?
[04:42] <Trixsey> azureus $file (for any file)
[04:42] <Trixsey> or?
[04:42] <coNP> Trixsey: is there enough free space for torrent files?
[04:42] <Trixsey> azureus FILE?
[04:42] <Trixsey> coNP, yes
[04:42] <Trixsey> I have the torrent already
[04:42] <wireful9001> hello?
[04:42] <Trixsey> I cant RUN it :p
[04:43] <Zelda> Milosch: Yeah. I can edit it. I sudo gedit'd it
[04:43] <wireful9001> how can you do fdisk from ubuntu?
[04:43] <Zelda> what next?
[04:43] <coNP> Trixsey: you mean by running clicking on it in nautilus?
[04:43] <carlos_> hello,  who use's remote desktop, i keep getting internal protocol error
[04:43] <Milosch> Zelda: anything in there regarding index?
[04:43] <Trixsey> coNP, yes!
[04:43] <kenthomson> bulmer, wassup?
[04:43] <jab> every time i reboot i have to manually enter "iwconfig wlan0 essid lan0 essid [myWiFiNetwork] ; dhclient wlan0" to get wireless up. anyone know how to make this happen automatically?
[04:43] <Trixsey> it says "Not a Fil"
[04:43] <abo> which program rip audio cds?
[04:43] <Trixsey> "Not a File"
[04:43] <Trixsey> but I can still drag+drop
[04:44] <kenthomson> abo, sound juicer
[04:44] <Trixsey> and the torrent does workj
[04:44] <kenthomson> !soundjuicer | abo
[04:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soundjuicer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:44] <kenthomson> !sound-juicer | abo
[04:44] <bulmer> hang on..am looking for my azureus
[04:44] <ubotu> sound-juicer: GNOME 2 CD Ripper. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 778 kB, installed size 3404 kB
[04:44] <n2diy> wireful9001: man fdisk
[04:44] <Milosch> Zelda: maybe you can pastebin that
[04:44] <kenthomson> bulmer, ok
[04:44] <Trixsey> Use custom command -> "azureus $anyfile$ &"
[04:44] <Trixsey> can I do something like that?
[04:44] <Trixsey> so it works on all files?
[04:45] <Zelda> Milosch: I have. Here ya go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1437/
[04:45] <kenthomson> bulmer, but i am 'hanging-on' for so much time, that my arms have gotten elongated-i mean really badly elongated. They hopelessly drag on the floor when i walk :(
[04:45] <coolfish> jab  you can try to creat startup script
[04:45] <kenthomson> >ubotu
[04:45] <n2diy> wireful9001: type man fdisk
[04:45] <bulmer> kenthomson: i cant find my copy..i have erazed mine..
[04:45] <Milosch> Zelda: ok, this is exactly like mine. looking...
[04:46] <carlos_> hello,  who use's terminal server client, i keep getting internal protocol error
[04:46] <Zaggynl> There isn't a Netlimiter for Linux right?
[04:46] <n2diy> wireful9001: stop PMing me
[04:46] <kenthomson> bulmer, how;s your copy gonna help me install this *&^%&*
[04:46] <vakosel> install c header files/?
[04:46] <BigMac> Alright I just burned the iso of ubuntu to a blank cd and booted up on it and whenever I click anything it goes to Loading and nothing ever loads
[04:46] <wireful9001> sorry
[04:46] <erUSUL> jab: edit /etc/network/interfaces and make and stanza for your card as shown in  'zless /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz'
[04:46] <Trixsey> How do I open torrents with azureus through nautilus? I picked "Use custom command", what should I enter for it to work with any .torrent file?
[04:46] <bulmer> kenthomson: dont be so demanding okay?
[04:46] <stefg> vakosel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[04:46] <adub> what do i need to apt-get install for .avi files
[04:46] <kenthomson> bulmer, ok
[04:47] <BigMac> And on 6.06 it would throw out Mp_bios 8540 can't connect to i/o apc
[04:47] <n2diy> wireful9001: open a  terminal, and type man fdisk
[04:47] <kenthomson> bulmer, thanks for the help
[04:47] <kenthomson> ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
[04:47] <BigMac> We narrowed this down to a video card issue
[04:47] <adub> i have totem i guess i need a divx file
[04:47] <Trixsey> bulmer?
[04:47] <adub> is anyone listening in here
[04:47] <Trixsey> you know? :(
[04:47] <cypher1> adub, what is your problem ?
[04:47] <n2diy> wireful9001: stop PMing me
[04:47] <erUSUL> !mp3 | adub
[04:47] <ubotu> adub: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:47] <BigMac> but several people have got ubuntu running
[04:47] <coNP> Trixsey: there is somewhere a shell script that starts azureus
[04:47] <bulmer> its been a while since i have use azureus..so am struggling to remember the commands so i can assist you
[04:48] <coNP> Trixsey: I set it to handle .torrent files and that works well for me.
[04:48] <glamour> ikonia: hi man
[04:48] <Trixsey> coNP, I don't need that? :P I just need to know the universal filename parameter
[04:48] <Trixsey> used in nautilus
[04:48] <Trixsey> like
[04:48] <Trixsey> coNP, well it doesn't for me :p
[04:48] <BigMac> But i need to acsess the terminal and install the drivers, so I need to know a way to acsess the terminal from the live cd root
[04:48] <adub> cypher1 totem will not play divx  files   i have an avi file it will play sound no video
[04:48] <Milosch> Zelda: need to know which module the onboard card is using
[04:49] <Zelda> is there a way that I could search pastebin for an old paste I used?
[04:49] <cypher1> adub, go through the links shown by ubotu
[04:49] <[BTF] Chm0d> morning all.  I am trying to install kxdocker but it says im missing kde headers.  I go to synaptic to install kdebasedev and it says this
[04:49] <[BTF] Chm0d> kdebase-dev:
[04:49] <[BTF] Chm0d>  Depends: konsole (= 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2)
[04:49] <cypher1> !w32codecs | adub
[04:49] <ubotu> adub: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:49] <Milosch> alias snd-card-0 snd-offboard-card-module-name; alias snd-card-1 snd-onboard-module-name <-- /etc/modprobe.d/aliases (might work)
[04:49] <[BTF] Chm0d> but i already have that installed any suggestions?
[04:50] <Milosch> Zelda: that's two lines, no ';'
[04:50] <coNP> Trixsey: therefore I suggest that you use that shell script :)
[04:50] <erUSUL> !info kxdocker
[04:50] <Milosch> however, they might be the same, which would be sad
[04:50] <ubotu> kxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.4a-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 327 kB, installed size 1064 kB
[04:50] <Trixsey> coNP, so there is no param for current file?
[04:50] <Trixsey> like
[04:50] <erUSUL> [BTF] Chm0d: why no use the precompiled version?
[04:50] <Trixsey> >azureus $current_file &
[04:51] <[BTF] Chm0d> you mean use apt-get install?
[04:51] <[BTF] Chm0d> if so ive done that
[04:51] <erUSUL> [BTF] Chm0d: right
[04:51] <[BTF] Chm0d> i get errors running int
[04:51] <[BTF] Chm0d> shall i post errors?
[04:51] <Zelda> MIlosch: yeah I'm assuming
[04:51] <cypher1> [BTF] Chm0d, yes please paste
[04:52] <Milosch> Zelda: lsmod | grep snd
[04:52] <Milosch> and paste
[04:52] <Milosch> er
[04:52] <Milosch> and pastebin
[04:52] <carlos_> does anybody recieve internal protocal error when using rdp
[04:52] <erUSUL> [BTF] Chm0d: dunno if i could help you... i do not use kde ;) anyway with 'apt-get build-dep kxdocker' you will install all you need to build it
[04:52] <foutrelis> Gaim keeps crashing.. :(
[04:53] <foutrelis> I never had this issue before.. hmmm
[04:53] <Zelda> Milosch: here : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1438/
[04:53] <[BTF] Chm0d> here you go erUSUL http://pastebin.ca/315400
[04:53] <[BTF] Chm0d> i will try that see what happens
[04:53] <Milosch> Zelda: ok, onboard is probably the intel module
[04:53] <ikonia> foutrelis: done any upgrades recently
[04:53] <[BTF] Chm0d> i just switched to kde yesterday just for something different
[04:54] <glamour> i compile cobol file using open cobol got this error /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ldb? what i am missing
[04:54] <Trixsey> Why does Ubuntu/Nautilus add "file:///" to my torrents?
[04:54] <foutrelis> ikonia: Yes, those that were suggested by that automatic update ubuntu tool
[04:54] <ikonia> glamour: an idea of how software building works
[04:54] <glamour> naw
[04:54] <ikonia> foutrelis: probably a problem with that
[04:54] <glamour> plz
[04:54] <glamour> help
[04:54] <ikonia> glamour: will its quite clear what ld is complaining about
[04:55] <erUSUL> [BTF] Chm0d: it seems that the instalation is corrupted have you tried reinstalling it? 'sudo apt-get remove --purge kxdocker && sudo apt-get install kxdocker'
[04:55] <Robin> Hello
[04:55] <glamour> !give me ldb
[04:55] <Hawk|-> ACTION gives me GOD
[04:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about give me ldb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:55] <coolfish> would anyone install beryl successfully with ati mobility radeon card?
[04:55] <adub> what repository has w32codecs in it for the latest version of ubuntu
[04:55] <Zelda> Milosch: yeh I knew that. If you asked which is which, I would have told you
[04:55] <Milosch> Zelda: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1439/
[04:55] <ikonia> hello Robin
[04:55] <[BTF] Chm0d> no haven't done that yet
[04:55] <Milosch> Zelda: i thought i did ;)
[04:55] <erUSUL> adub: seveas'
[04:55] <foutrelis> ikonia: well.. The gaim I have is still beta, so I cannot complain. It is strange though 'cause I never had this issue before
[04:55] <cypher1> [BTF] Chm0d, did you try reinstalling kxdocker ?
[04:55] <glamour> ikonia: dude help plz. what package i need
[04:55] <n2diy> ! ldb
[04:55] <oscuro> hi
[04:55] <Robin> :] 
[04:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ldb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:55] <glamour> debugger
[04:55] <glamour> ikonia: ^
[04:55] <ikonia> glamour: you said you know what your doing building software
[04:55] <Robin> Can I get some help with installing tar.gz packages?
[04:55] <oscuro> any of you guys, know how to solve this?
[04:55] <ikonia> Robin: depends
[04:55] <coNP> glamour: something like libdb, I guess
[04:55] <Milosch> Zelda: something to try, ymmv
[04:55] <Robin> :P
[04:56] <oscuro> I'm on x-chat
[04:56] <oscuro> cancin
[04:56] <oscuro> ratn
[04:56] <adub> erUSUL   where did you find that out at im at a repository search and im not getting anything
[04:56] <glamour> libdb i guess something for database
[04:56] <oscuro> I'm the only one who see the "tilde"
[04:56] <erUSUL> !seveas | adub
[04:56] <ubotu> adub: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:56] <glamour> anyonee can help i get this /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ldb
[04:56] <oscuro> but not the others, who see a strange character.
[04:56] <coolfish> would anyone install beryl successfully with ati mobility radeon card?
[04:56] <erUSUL> oscuro: no
[04:56] <coNP> glamour: try to install one of the libdb.* packages
[04:56] <ikonia> glamour: spot on - a tip is google for the lib then use rpmfind.net to find the package its in
[04:56] <Zelda> Milosch: Do I add it before the other ones? Or anywhere?
[04:56] <erUSUL> oscuro: i'm seing the tilde allright
[04:56] <oscuro> vacacin
[04:57] <Milosch> Zelda: anywhere, but i would put it at the end just so you know where it is
[04:57] <oscuro> really?
[04:57] <oscuro> extraccin.
[04:57] <elysium444> Jowi: I solved the problem with this "sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals"
[04:57] <oscuro>   
[04:57] <oscuro> mmmh
[04:57] <erUSUL> oscuro: yes... the problem is in the other end
[04:57] <foutrelis> ikonia: Anyway.. I ll try to find an alternative to gaim.. till it becomes stable that is. Thank for the help :)
[04:57] <Zelda> Milosch: end of the whole document or end of a certain sub category?
[04:58] <Milosch> very end, imo
[04:58] <Milosch> does not really matter
[04:58] <Zelda> thnx
[04:58] <Zelda> Milosch: how do I restart alsa?
[04:59] <ikonia> where is the bug reference for the missing shutdown/reboot button within gnome
[04:59] <erUSUL> !bugs
[04:59] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[04:59] <n2diy> !bugs | ikonia
[04:59] <ubotu> ikonia: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[04:59] <ikonia> erUSUL: I know where there bug reports are but I can't find the bug
[04:59] <Milosch> Zelda: if you are in X it might not work to restart alsa, and you may not have /etc/init.d/alsasound, if so use that with restart
[05:00] <Robin> ikonia, what might it depend on? :P
[05:00] <iturk> hi there i am trying to copy an image from a pdf file to an odt using open office but i cannot find it in paste after i see the message in acroread the image has been copy to clipboard !! How can i copy an image from a pdf to a odt file ??
[05:00] <fbenites> hi!
[05:00] <Gosha> !kqemu
[05:00] <ubotu> kqemu is non-free kernel module for speeding up the !QEMU virtual machine. Installation instructions can be found at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/KQEmu - see also !qvm86
[05:00] <fbenites> does someone use uml: user-mode-linux?
[05:00] <Gosha> !qemu
[05:00] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[05:01] <jrib> iturk: you could open the pdf in gimp and copy from there
[05:01] <Milosch> Zelda: worst case is reboot, next case is leave X and unload all snd- modules using rmmod
[05:01] <erUSUL> iturk: i have no problems doing that i just hit Crtl + V and the image is copied
[05:02] <Zelda> Milosch: I hope it works.
[05:02] <Milosch> i guess you are trying to avoid a reboot?
[05:02] <caleb> mmm
[05:02] <caleb> hello
[05:02] <iturk> jrib: the image its horrible
[05:02] <caleb>  i need help, please
[05:02] <Milosch> otherwise you could disable in the bios ;)
[05:02] <n2diy> Zelda: google restarting alsa gives 268000 hits.
[05:02] <caleb> im new in this
[05:03] <Trixsey> Why does Nautilus choose to open .torrent files with "azureus file:///test.torrent"?
[05:03] <Trixsey> it fucks my azureus up
[05:03] <jrib> !language | Trixsey
[05:03] <ubotu> Trixsey: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:03] <iturk> jrib: since it was some numbers in gimp after i open that page i cannot read them in 100 % scale
[05:03] <coNP> caleb: just ask not ask to ask :)
[05:03] <iturk> it has i mean
[05:03] <Trixsey> huh?
[05:03] <Trixsey> It wasn't directed at anyway
[05:03] <ikonia> Trixsey: don't swear
[05:03] <jrib> iturk: hmm, how about just PrintScreen then and copy from there.  hackish I know...
[05:03] <Trixsey> must be a bot :p
[05:03] <n2diy> !language | Trixsey
[05:03] <ubotu> Trixsey: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:03] <caleb> sorry, im from spain and i cant express myself correctly
[05:04] <Trixsey> Why not?
[05:04] <erUSUL> !es | caleb
[05:04] <caleb> im having problems with nforce drivers
[05:04] <ikonia> because its rude
[05:04] <ubotu> caleb: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:04] <christopher_l> I want to add trashcan to my menu, does anybody know the command for the trashcan?
[05:04] <n2diy> " es | caleb
[05:04] <Milosch> Zelda: next thing to try would be http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1440/
[05:04] <caleb> ok
[05:04] <caleb> thanks
[05:04] <Robin> What's an alternative to ./configure if it's not working?
[05:04] <erUSUL> caleb: vete a #ubuntu-es ( /j #ubuntu-es en el cliente irc)
[05:04] <ikonia> Robin: what are you trying to install
[05:04] <Zelda> brb.
[05:04] <Trixsey> Why has there been a broken azureus package in repos for so long? Tell me how to do and I'll re-package and put there if no one has time :p
[05:05] <ikonia> Trixsey: I don't think its broke - not many bugs logged against it
[05:05] <coNP> Trixsey: what do you mean that it is broken?
[05:05] <Trixsey> coNP, well.. the tray icon disappears etc
[05:05] <Trixsey> not broken?
[05:05] <Trixsey> like
[05:05] <Trixsey> 20 people I talked to said its broken
[05:05] <Robin> ikonia, IntelliJ IDEA
[05:05] <ikonia> 20 out od 20,00000 is not a big proportion
[05:06] <egonw> how can I assign a bug to a certain release in the launchpad?
[05:06] <ikonia> Robin: what is that
[05:06] <Trixsey> ikonia, had I asked 20,00000 it wouldn't be
[05:06] <Robin> A Java IDE
[05:06] <Trixsey> but I asked like 25
[05:06] <n2diy> Trixsey: have any of you filed a bug report on it?
[05:06] <Trixsey> 20/25 is pretty big
[05:06] <iturk> jrib: hmmm much better
[05:06] <iturk> thanks
[05:06] <jrib> egonw: just mention the version number in your bug.  launchpad doesn't really track what release a bug is part of
[05:06] <Trixsey> n2diy, where do I do that?
[05:06] <Trixsey> it's not an azureus bug
[05:06] <egonw> jrib: ack, thanx
[05:06] <Rio> i want to execute the program azureus as a user with privelages, but for some reason, the command is not "sudo azureus".  whats another way to execute it?
[05:06] <Trixsey> someone messed with the repo
[05:06] <n2diy> ! bugs | Trixsey
[05:06] <Trixsey> didn't package it properly
[05:06] <ubotu> Trixsey: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[05:07] <compsman> hey how can i open rar files
[05:07] <ikonia> compsman: use unrar
[05:07] <jrib> !rar | compsman
[05:07] <ubotu> compsman: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[05:07] <egonw> compsman: aptitude install unrar
[05:07] <Pirate-King> if you install ubuntu can you the apperance instead of the uguly brown?
[05:07] <jrib> !themes | Pirate-King
[05:07] <ubotu> Pirate-King: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[05:08] <Pirate-King> thanks
[05:08] <ikonia> Pirate-King: yes, in themes
[05:08] <grk> what to add any themes? i have linux first time :<
[05:09] <Robin> Actually, better yet, what is the equivelent of Environment variables in Ubuntu?
[05:09] <iustin85> hello everyone ! i want to know something for certain .... I have a drive A - with LVM and full of data and a new empty drive B  ||| If i will expand i will lose any data on the old drive A ?
[05:09] <ikonia> Robin: what is the problem exactly
[05:09] <Zelda> Milosch: Thanks that worked
[05:09] <Milosch> Zelda: well?
[05:09] <Milosch> awesome
[05:09] <ikonia> your questions don't make sense
[05:09] <Milosch> the aliases ?
[05:09] <Zelda> yea
[05:09] <Milosch> ah, good
[05:09] <Robin> It can't find that I have the Java Developement Kit installed.
[05:09] <Zelda> milosch: didnt have to do anything else.
[05:09] <egonw> Robin: dpkg -l "*sun*" ?
[05:10] <Robin> I have it installed, that's the thing :P
[05:10] <Gosha> qemu-img create -f qcow winxp.img 2G <-- to do that i have to be sudo, right?
[05:10] <ikonia> Robin: is JAVA_HOME and CLASSPATH set and is java in your path
[05:10] <egonw> Robin: which package?
[05:10] <adub> well stupid totem still isnt playing the avi after i install w32codecs   is there anything else i might need
[05:10] <Robin> Idk how to set them ikonia
[05:10] <RedGhost> Where can I change the default keyboard layout? (not just gnome)
[05:10] <Robin> egonw, I downloaded the binary from the sun website.
[05:10] <Milosch> thanks!
[05:10] <user_> hello everyone ! i want to know something for certain .... I have a drive A - with LVM and full of data and a new empty drive B  ||| If i will expand i will lose any data on the old drive A ?
[05:10] <egonw> Robin: better use: 1) the deb java-package
[05:10] <ikonia> Robin: you should know this if you're building your own software
[05:11] <elysium444> Jowi: my system is ok now by doing "sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals" and removing beryl. but I after i install it and try to run it I have the same problem as before
[05:11] <egonw> or, 2) the sun jvm debs
[05:11] <user_> hello everyone ! i want to know something for certain .... I have a drive A - with LVM and full of data and a new empty drive B  ||| If i will expand i will lose any data on the old drive A ?
[05:11] <ikonia> if you can't set environment variables - you have no business compiling software
[05:11] <egonw> from multiverse?
[05:11] <Robin> ikonia, I usually build my own software in Windows.
[05:11] <ikonia> Robin: so ?
[05:11] <Robin> And I'm not familiar with Ubuntu at all?
[05:11] <D_A_U> hi
[05:11] <Robin> Hello
[05:11] <D_A_U> i have a short question
[05:11] <ikonia> so you shouldn't be trying to compile packages
[05:11] <egonw> Robin: please install the sun jdk deb from the ubuntu repos
[05:11] <Zelda> we have short answers
[05:11] <D_A_U> how to number consecutively a ODT Document? (OpenOffice.org)
[05:12] <Zelda> a.k.a. Midget Answers
[05:12] <RedGhost> Where can I change the default keyboard layout? (not just gnome)
[05:12] <egonw> Robin: java5 is in the edgy repos, and java6 in the feisty repos
[05:12] <RedGhost> is it just xorg.conf?
[05:12] <Robin> I'm currently upgrading to edgy.
[05:12] <RedGhost> for the global system settings
[05:12] <ikonia> Robin: why /
[05:12] <egonw> Robin: the latter installs fine on edgy too, but be carefull not to upgrade to feisty itself
[05:13] <compsman> kk
[05:13] <koen_> How can you find the PCI adress of a monitor?
[05:13] <n2diy> RedGhost: take a look at man loadkeys
[05:13] <compsman> how i burn nero cd images
[05:13] <ikonia> koen_: pci is a card - not a monitor
[05:13] <erUSUL> !nrg2iso
[05:13] <egonw> compsman: *.iso ? e.g. k3b
[05:13] <ubotu> nrg2iso: Extracts ISO9660 data from Nero ".nrg" files. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4-1.1 (edgy), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB
[05:13] <ikonia> compsman: use nero
[05:13] <koen_> How can you define different outputs then?
[05:13] <erUSUL> !nrg2iso | compsman
[05:14] <ikonia> koen_: in what /
[05:14] <egonw> erUSUL: cool... did not know .nrg existed ;)
[05:14] <compsman> oh ok
[05:14] <koen_> xorg.conf
[05:14] <compsman> no way i can mount it?
[05:14] <ikonia> koen_: change the bus id of the card
[05:14] <compsman> is therte a daemon tools?
[05:14] <jatos> hey
[05:14] <czr> does anyone know a similar tool for extracing os x .dmg files?
[05:14] <koen_> there is no bus id defined, and we aren't able to find it
[05:14] <Robin> What is the difference between sun's binary and the jdk install from the repos?
[05:14] <ikonia> koen_: lspci
[05:14] <Milosch> compsman: i guess they mean convert to iso first, then mount
[05:15] <compsman> ok
[05:15] <egonw> Robin: the deb will set up /usr/bin/java to the right path etc...
[05:15] <koen_> 00:0a.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0376 (rev a2)
[05:15] <egonw> Robin: check: update-alternatives --config javac
[05:15] <ikonia> koen_: thats right
[05:15] <koen_> ikonia, what can I do with that?
[05:15] <ikonia> what ever you wan
[05:15] <egonw> Robin: btw, you can set JAVA_HOME in your /home/$USER/.bashrc
[05:15] <ikonia> want
[05:16] <Robin> Thank you
[05:16] <Robin> :] 
[05:16] <Trixsey> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/azureus/+bug/79093
[05:16] <egonw> Robin: using the deb is also better for uninstalling etc
[05:16] <Trixsey> Done!
[05:16] <Robin> That's what I wanted, I believe.
[05:16] <Milosch> koen_: that could be a lot of things, does one say VGA compatible controller ?
[05:16] <Robin> Ah, I see
[05:16] <enyc> Hrrm... ?what is different about the console in edgy such that I have unusual conosle behaviour compared to dapper?
[05:16] <egonw> Robin: and upgrading...
[05:16] <Robin> :P
[05:17] <egonw> Robin: moreover... in the past, the .bin from Sun now and then overwrote things it should not have...
[05:17] <koen_> 07:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0295
[05:17] <Milosch> ah, better
[05:17] <stefg> enyc: the default shell in edgy is no longer bash, but dash (?)
[05:17] <Milosch> unknown still, that's weird
[05:17] <n2diy> ! dash
[05:17] <ubotu> /bin/sh links to the DASH shell in Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to "#!/bin/bash"
[05:17] <enyc> I am finding that capslock+numlock lights do not work and that capslock state acts like shift -- i.e. includes symbol keys!
[05:17] <enyc> This seems to be osme kind of kernel console config -- not the shell itself
[05:18] <enyc> stefg: I think that is only the /bin/sh link -- not the 'user' shell
[05:18] <n2diy> Why the heck did the change the default shell from bash to dash?
[05:18] <enyc> stefg: but that is not be problem
[05:18] <egonw> Robin: alternatively to adding it to your .bashrc, you can also prepend JAVA_HOME=/usr/share/jvm/java-bla to your command, e.g. handy when running ant:
[05:18] <egonw> Robin: JAVA_HOME=bla ant
[05:18] <stefg> enyc: ok, that's something with your keys/termcaps
[05:19] <Robin> Ah, alright.  Thanks again :] 
[05:19] <enyc> stefg: hrrm how do I check/reset/fix this?
[05:19] <erUSUL> n2diy: dash is almost 100% compatible and is *much* more light (in resource consumption)
[05:19] <Vegeta^> How is it possible to mix (hear) sound from different "applications", like for example if I have a voice conversation I won't be able to hear music or hear te sound of a video, how can I hear both?
[05:19] <RedGhost> I man'd loadkeys but the directories it gave me for keymaps were all empty, is there another way to change the default keyboard layout?
[05:19] <erUSUL> !dmix | Vegeta^
[05:19] <ubotu> Vegeta^: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[05:19] <n2diy> erUSUL: almost?
[05:20] <Tomasso> helloo installed ubuntu 64 from live cd, can anyone please tell what the root password is? during the instalation it doesnt ask..
[05:20] <erUSUL> Vegeta^: with dmix if your sondcard support it or with a sound server like esd polypaudio or arts
[05:20] <Tomasso> (another thing firefox doesnt work :( )
[05:20] <erUSUL> n2diy: as ubotu said there are scripts that break
[05:20] <ikonia> Tomasso: read the docs on ubuntu.com
[05:20] <Vegeta^> erUSUL: I have KMIX...
[05:20] <compsman> hmmmm
[05:21] <RedGhost> I man'd loadkeys but the directories it gave me for keymaps were all empty, is there another way to change the default keyboard layout?
[05:21] <Tomasso> ikonia: firefox doesnt work :(
[05:21] <Robin> Yeah, I'm just going to wait till I've upgraded to edgy.
[05:21] <stefg> enyc: maybe http://www.thoughtpolice.co.uk/vmware/howto/1-minute-guide.html helps
[05:21] <ikonia> Tomasso: what happens
[05:21] <Milosch> Tomasso: by default there is no root password, and you can't use root, so use sudo instead
[05:21] <Tomasso> ikonia: it doesnt start
[05:21] <n2diy> erUSUL: roger that, I don't understand why the would make such a change, if this is the future of Ubuntu, I'm not going to be part of it.
[05:22] <egonw> Robin: ok, good luck! have to go now
[05:22] <enyc> stefg: coo.. done "sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-data"
[05:23] <compsman> i guess its mds and mdf in nero becuease its not valid
[05:23] <elysium444> Jowi: my system is ok now by doing "sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals" and removing beryl. but I after i install it and try to run it I have the same problem as before
[05:23] <enyc> stefg: that seems to have sorted the capslock correctly ;-)
[05:23] <enyc> stefg: but numlock is still unhappy
[05:23] <stefg> enyc: in X or on the VT
[05:23] <enyc> stefg: seems to be pretending i do not have a numberpad
[05:23] <enyc> stefg: this is the consoles/terminal tty1..tty6
[05:23] <Milosch> elysium444: does running nvidia-xconfig always fix it?
[05:24] <compsman> can any one help on nero images that are .mds and .mdf
[05:25] <cooltux> Good video editing software under linux anybody?
[05:25] <erUSUL> compsman: those are alcohol 120% images ...
[05:25] <compsman> oops
[05:25] <Rio> i want to run azureus as root, but for some reason "sudo azureus" does not work.  whats another way around it?
[05:25] <erUSUL> cooltux: cinelerra ??
[05:25] <compsman> can can i un compress them?
[05:25] <stefg> enyc: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tune.en.html#s-l10n
[05:26] <erUSUL> Rio: bad idea, do not run anything as root
[05:26] <Rio> erUSUL when i run it as any other user, it asks me to update the program, then fails 'cause that user doesnt have any privelages
[05:27] <Elischa> i
[05:27] <compsman> alcohol 120% need to be openingable
[05:27] <compsman> how i open them
[05:27] <erUSUL> Rio: that's why i stopped using it ;)
[05:28] <Trixsey> How do I open any torrent with azureus, with a custom command?
[05:28] <ikonia> Trixsey: a custom command ?
[05:28] <Riyonuk> Why is it so hard to install software with an internet-less pc? Chasing down them depedencys takes forever
[05:28] <Rio> heh
[05:28] <erUSUL> !apt-zip
[05:28] <ubotu> apt-zip: Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.15 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 116 kB
[05:28] <Rio> i want to run azureus as root, but for some reason "sudo azureus" does not work.  whats another way around it?
[05:28] <Trixsey> ikonia, right now it opens torrents by executing the command "azureus file:///anytorrent.torrent"
[05:28] <Trixsey> I'd like to exclude file:///
[05:28] <erUSUL> !apt-zip | Riyonuk
[05:28] <Trixsey> as it's not working with azureus
[05:29] <Riyonuk> Oh wtf
[05:29] <ikonia> Trixsey: I think you could do with reading the azeureus docs a bit
[05:29] <Trixsey> I can't just do "azureus torrent1.torrent", as it wouldn't work with torrent2
[05:29] <Trixsey> and vice versa
[05:29] <Trixsey> ikonia, it doesn't really have to do with azureus
[05:29] <Trixsey> more with nautilus
[05:29] <Trixsey> afaik?
[05:29] <Riyonuk> Wish I knew about that >_>
[05:29] <Riyonuk> So where do I get this apt-zip? How does it work?
[05:29] <ikonia> azurues may not be linked into nautilus
[05:29] <user_> hello everyone ! i want to know something for certain .... I have a drive A - with LVM and full of data and a new empty drive B  ||| If i will expand i will lose any data on the old drive A ?
[05:30] <Trixsey> ikonia, it's really about how files are opened
[05:30] <vakosel> any quick way to firefox 2.0?
[05:30] <Trixsey> this command is executed before azureus is running
[05:30] <ikonia> user_: no
[05:30] <compsman> i need be able to open mds and mdf files
[05:30] <Trixsey> so it couldn't possibly be anything related to azureus :p
[05:30] <ikonia> vakosel: apt-get it ?
[05:30] <vakosel> yes
[05:30] <vakosel> how?
[05:30] <ikonia> vakosel: apt-get install firefox
[05:30] <stefg> Trixsey: so did you install the broken azu-package from the repos and just replaced the azureus.jar?
[05:30] <n2diy> user_: everyone here is a volunteer, are you sure you want to trust your data to their answers?
[05:30] <vakosel> thx pal!
[05:30] <Trixsey> stefg, yes
[05:31] <Trixsey> it works but I can't double click .torrent files
[05:31] <Trixsey> Failed to access torrent file 'file:///home/trixsey/Desktop/n216.torrent'. Ensure sufficient temporary file space available (check browser cache usage).
[05:31] <Trixsey> it adds "file:///"
[05:31] <Trixsey> which shouldn't be there
[05:31] <stefg> Trixsey: so the .desktop file and everything are correct. gnome should know azureus then
[05:31] <ikonia> ahhh I see wha tyour saying
[05:31] <Riyonuk> erUSUL, how does it work? Is it just for ubuntu to ubuntu, or can it be for windows to ubuntu, as thats my case
[05:31] <Trixsey> azureus doesn't recognize it with "file:///" first
[05:32] <Trixsey> you can NOT run "azureus file:///whatever.torrent"
[05:32] <Trixsey> you have to do "azureus whatever.torrent"
[05:32] <Trixsey> no file://
[05:32] <Trixsey> so how do I remove file:///? :/
[05:32] <erUSUL> Riyonuk: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/22/upgrade-install-ubuntu-on-slow-internet/
[05:33] <n2diy> Trixsey: rename it.
[05:33] <gizmo_the_great1> how do you uninstall a wine application?
[05:33] <etzerd> Hello all
[05:33] <etzerd> ?
[05:33] <Trixsey> n2diy, huh?
[05:33] <etzerd> I need a different copy of ubuntu
[05:33] <Trixsey> where do I rename it?
[05:33] <Riyonuk> erUSUL, from what I read, I dont know. Using cgywin?
[05:33] <der0b> I'm trying to prevent the synaptics touchpad driver from loading in X, is there a command that will tell me what drivers are active?
[05:33] <etzerd> the copy 6.10 that I have is the one that included the Live CD I hate it
[05:33] <xtknight> der0b: lsmod
[05:34] <n2diy> Trixsey: is it a file, or a url?
[05:34] <Trixsey> n2diy, it's a file
[05:34] <jrib> Trixsey: you could always write a short script to do it for you
[05:34] <compsman> omg i need to open mds and mdf files any one?
[05:34] <n2diy> Trixsey: so rename it.
[05:34] <etzerd> I need the copy that install like DOS not the graphic mode.
[05:34] <Trixsey> n2diy, rename it to what?
[05:34] <der0b> xtknight: know what the synaptic driver is called?
[05:34] <stefg> !cdemu | compsman
[05:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdemu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <Trixsey> n2diy, there is *nothing* wrong with the file
[05:34] <etzerd> can anyone tell me which one it is so I can download it?
[05:34] <n2diy> Trixsey: whatever you want.
[05:34] <stefg> !info cdemu
[05:34] <ubotu> Package cdemu does not exist in any distro I know
[05:34] <xtknight> der0b: sorry, nope.  `sudo lshw`  may give you a clue if you look through the output.  or paste it on pastebin and ill take a good guess
[05:34] <jrib> !alternate | etzerd
[05:34] <ubotu> etzerd: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[05:34] <Trixsey> n2diy, no offense but I don't think you know what my problem is :p
[05:35] <Trixsey> jrib, yeah
[05:35] <Trixsey> jrib, I was wondering if there was a variable in nautilus for current file?
[05:35] <der0b> xtknight: another command to play with :D
[05:35] <Trixsey> or if I have to use shellscript
[05:35] <n2diy> Trixsey: you want the file to loose the "file:///" stuff, so rename it, and leave that stuff out.
[05:35] <Trixsey> n2diy, it's not named file:///
[05:35] <Trixsey> file:/// is added by nautilus
[05:35] <Trixsey> is what I'm saying
[05:36] <koen_> Guess who's back...
[05:36] <stefg> compsman: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Mount_ISO_script
[05:36] <D_A_U> is it possible that in coming releases an "encryption-feature" will be avaible in the install-options?
[05:36] <koen_> Back again...
[05:36] <Trixsey> besides, renaming ALL torrents wouldn't be good long-term
[05:36] <Trixsey> I can drag+drop the torrent
[05:36] <etzerd> Thanks guys
[05:36] <Trixsey> so its clearly nothing wrong with the torrent itself
[05:36] <koen_> Still no dual monitors, and we're getting on our nerves right here...
[05:36] <jrib> Trixsey: yes, if you use nautilus scripts, there are some variables that get passed.  I was just thinking of a regular shell script that takes input, strips the file:///, and passes it to azureus
[05:36] <koen_> We've been following all sorts of tutorials/howtos
[05:36] <tony_> How do I get flash on Ubuntu 6.10?
[05:36] <jrib> !flash | tony_
[05:36] <ubotu> tony_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:36] <ikonia> !flash >tony_
[05:37] <ikonia> tony_: you've asked this before
[05:37] <tony_> no i have not
[05:37] <n2diy> Trixsey: you wrote: <Trixsey> so how do I remove file:///? :/,  and I told you rename it, kapeech?
[05:37] <ikonia> ok
[05:37] <Trixsey> n2diy, don't be stupid.. there is nothing to rename
[05:37] <Trixsey> n2diy, file:/// is not part of the name, not part of the file
[05:37] <Trixsey> n2diy, it's added by nautilus as the program is getting executed
[05:37] <coNP> ehh, Trixsey it should work with file:/// as well
[05:37] <cn28h> How can I install ubuntu without installing GRUB along with it?
[05:37] <jrib> Trixsey: relax.  He was trying to help you
[05:37] <Trixsey> coNP. it's not
[05:37] <compsman> that wont work
[05:38] <compsman> i have mds and mdf
[05:38] <Trixsey> coNP, it worked before.. but not now
[05:38] <Trixsey> in terminal I can do "azureus file.torrent"
[05:38] <Trixsey> but I can *not* do "azureus file:///file.torrent"
[05:38] <coNP> What happens if you write file:///file.torrent, Trixsey?
[05:38] <facugaich> cn28h: You can use the alternative install CD
[05:39] <Trixsey> coNP, file can not be found
[05:39] <Riyonuk> erUSUL, so what should I do?
[05:39] <cn28h> facugaich, hm didn't know that existed.  I'll have a look, thanks
[05:39] <coNP> Trixsey: are you using the full path of the torrent file? e.g. file:///tmp/file.torrent?
[05:40] <Trixsey> coNP, yes
[05:40] <compsman> ok i think i need to reask my question i have 2files name.mds name.mdf and want to convert to iso
[05:40] <Trixsey> coNP, I haven't changed anything.. I became unable to simply double-click the torrent files when I had upgraded to 2.5.0.2
[05:40] <Tampler> I downloaded one gtk theme. How can I change font color
[05:41] <enyc> stefg: hrrm well the numberpad problem does not seem to have anything todo with  qwerty vs dvorak choice etc.
[05:41] <stefg> Trixsey: so you download a torrent with firefox, but instead of azu opening the file you receive that error?
[05:41] <enyc> stefg: puzzling... but thats not important to me anyway
[05:42] <Trixsey> stefg, azureus starts running.. and it replies with an error: can not find file "file:///..,,"
[05:42] <stefg> enyc: so you havn't configured a pc105 keyboard, but a laptop keyboard it seems
[05:42] <enyc> stefg: now that i no longer have to guess about capslock and no longer have shift being pressed when capslock is active... (symbols on number keys etc.) I am happy ;-)
[05:42] <Tomasso> firefox doesnt work :(
[05:42] <enyc> stefg: well i didnt get asked that question...
[05:42] <ctkroeke1> Tomasso: how does it not work
[05:42] <compsman> ok i think i need to reask my question i have 2files name.mds name.mdf and want to convert to iso
[05:43] <enyc> stefg: the x-server ususally lets you choose pc101 etc
[05:43] <enyc> stefg: I have a 102 key not 105
[05:43] <Tomasso> ctkroeke1: it doesnt start :(
[05:43] <Milosch> compsman: mdf2iso ?
[05:43] <LjL> !mdf2iso | compsman
[05:43] <ubotu> mdf2iso: A simple utility to convert mdf to iso / cue / toc images. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 6 kB, installed size 60 kB
[05:43] <enyc> stefg: model 1391406
[05:43] <Tomasso> gonna check the output
[05:43] <compsman> oh ok
[05:43] <stefg> enyc: sorry for being euro-centric :-)
[05:43] <enyc> stefg: I have uk keyboard!
[05:43] <ctkroeke1> Tomasso: if you type in a terminal "firefox | dmesg"
[05:43] <enyc> stefg: US=101 uk=102
[05:43] <enyc> stefg: i think
[05:43] <Tomasso> when running firefox i get Segmentation Fault
[05:43] <enyc> stefg: but this is not _105_
[05:44] <Tomasso> (64 bit)
[05:44] <enyc> stefg: euro is altgr+4
[05:44] <enyc> stefg: some keyboards print the euro symbol there too
[05:44] <stefg> enyc: pc 105 is ususally germany... so i'm drilled to pc105
[05:44] <enyc> stefg: kk
[05:44] <bradley_> my media (audio) playback slows down sometimes --like a walkman with dying batteries. all my a/v programs seem to be affected (mplayer, vlc, exaile, rhythmbox). any ideas what is wrong?
[05:44] <enyc> stefg: well i do _not_ have windows-keys
[05:45] <cooltux> keyloggers in linux?
[05:45] <enyc> stefg: keyboard 01-07-1987 #1391406 UK  and it all worked fine with dapper.. upgrade to edgy seem to have broken console
[05:45] <enyc> stefg: but its now much improved ;-)
[05:46] <LjL> !lkl | cooltux
[05:46] <ubotu> lkl: userspace keylogger for x86 architecture. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1-1 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 124 kB (Only available for i386 kfreebsd-i386)
[05:46] <stefg> enyc: see if man loadkeys can help you ... and edgy (sigh) breaks many things
[05:46] <compsman> Licensed under GPL v2 or later
[05:46] <compsman> Unknown format for QUAKE3.mdf
[05:46] <Milosch> er
[05:47] <bradley_> playback started slowing down yesterday (or maybe the evening before that) the only change i can think of was an upgrade.
[05:47] <enyc> stefg: i see... well this was the point of edgy.. but it needs people to report the problems to be fixed for feisty!!
[05:47] <Tomasso> it works now, i had to upgrade :D
[05:47] <erUSUL> Riyonuk: i do not know sorry.... you can try here http://cargol.net/~ramon/ubuntu-dvd-en
[05:47] <stefg> enyc: so report a bug on launchpad
[05:47] <stefg> !bug
[05:47] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[05:47] <MtJB> is anyone else getting logged off back to the gdm login, then having to reboot to resume, following periods of inactivity?
[05:48] <POVaddct> !sources
[05:48] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:48] <D_A_U> is it possible that in coming releases an "encryption-feature" will be avaible in the install-options?
[05:48] <POVaddct> !easysource
[05:48] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:48] <compsman> !mds2iso
[05:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mds2iso - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:48] <enyc> stefg: heh ive reported a few... trying to get a SRU to edgy+dapper for qpsmtpd... and confirmed a bug about mkisofs in edgy... (regression over dapper) but its not a problem in fiesty
[05:48] <compsman> !mdf2iso
[05:48] <ubotu> mdf2iso: A simple utility to convert mdf to iso / cue / toc images. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 6 kB, installed size 60 kB
[05:48] <enyc> stefg: but i dont have consistent information on keyboard problems
[05:49] <enyc> whatis a 'mdf' ?
[05:49] <compsman> alachol cd image
[05:49] <stefg> enyc: media descriptor file ... sot of an .iso for copy-protected CDs
[05:50] <compsman> i get this
[05:50] <compsman> Licensed under GPL v2 or later
[05:50] <compsman> Unknown format for QUAKE3.mdf
[05:50] <hairulfr> Mjello all
[05:50] <enyc> stefg: interesting... ?is that a bit like using X-copy in  bitcopy mode rather than "ADF" fast-copy  disk images for amiga disks?
[05:50] <stefg> what's amiga ? :-)
[05:50] <compsman> omg
[05:50] <compsman> lol
[05:50] <compsman> oldest computer
[05:50] <enyc> stefg: they had copy-protected floppydisks you see
[05:51] <Milosch> old commodore machine, but not the oldest
[05:51] <moggio> what's the easiest way to convert a format to mp4?
[05:51] <nothlit> vlc?
[05:51] <enyc> moggio: hrrm im sure there are pages about converting to ogg vorbis actually
[05:51] <okaratas> VLC Media Player; apt-get install vlc
[05:51] <nothlit> otherwise you could use mencoder or ffmpeg
[05:51] <linuxnewbie756> i am trying to backup dvds, trying to use dvd rip, any help? i can't figure out IF it can burn to dvds, i only see options for cds
[05:51] <enyc> moggio: not sure about that way rounnd... are you talking audio or video ?
[05:52] <linuxnewbie756> any other really good programs to use?
[05:52] <moggio> video
[05:52] <enyc> linuxnewbie756: I understaood that dvd::rip (package "dvdrip" was good)
[05:53] <compsman> can any one help me in this mdf2iso     Licensed under GPL v2 or later    Unknown format for QUAKE3.mdf
[05:53] <linuxnewbie756> thats what i am trying to use,i just can't really figure it out, i can rip it to files, but i just don't see how to burn to dvds
[05:53] <cooltux> how to configure wallpaper-tray to look for a specific directory?
[05:53] <stefg> !quake | compsman
[05:53] <ubotu> compsman: Quake runs natively under linux see http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/ for details
[05:54] <compsman> 4?
[05:54] <compsman> i tryed
[05:54] <compsman> but i need the cd:)
[05:54] <compsman> so i downloaded it
[05:54] <compsman> but can i burn mdf cd image?
[05:55] <compsman> i have 300's of blank cds
[05:55] <Milosch> maybe you need to buy it? :)
[05:55] <BrendanM> dude are you asking for warez here?
[05:55] <Gosha> can i mount .ima files? ( windowsimage)
[05:55] <stefg> compsman: not with linux...
[05:55] <adub> i am still having problems with totem playing xvid files can someone help on this i have done a lot and still cant get it to play the things
[05:55] <adub> open to any suggestions
[05:55] <BrendanM> adub, any reason to not just use VLC?
[05:55] <D_A_U> abud, try VLC Player
[05:55] <compsman> i will send to my server and i will burn it from windows
[05:56] <BrendanM> ...or buy it
[05:56] <adub> brendanM well i was wanting to use totem for all video playing
[05:56] <stefg> hehe
[05:56] <Gosha> !ima
[05:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ima - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:56] <adub> im just weird like that
[05:56] <Gosha> wee
[05:56] <Gosha> !img
[05:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about img - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:56] <moggio> vlc is great for playing most formats
[05:56] <Gosha> !iso
[05:56] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[05:56] <LjL> !msg the bot | Gosha
[05:56] <ubotu> Gosha: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:56] <adub> brendanM have you been able to get totem work
[05:56] <adub> with xvid
[05:57] <BrendanM> I never use totem. I'm running Xubuntu which ships with gxine, but I immediately installed VLC and haven't looked back
[05:57] <nothlit> linuxnewbie756, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K9Copy ... right on the dvd::rip page "Note: Another, and perhaps easier, solution for DVD ripping in Linux is K9Copy."
[05:57] <BrendanM> Is totem a GNOME app?
[05:57] <linuxnewbie756> i tried k9copy, but it wouldn't work right
[05:57] <stefg> totem is the gnome-frontend to either gstreamer or libxine
[05:58] <BrendanM> it's probably a codec issue then
[05:58] <adub> brendanM most definitely a codec issue but i cant put my finger on it
[05:58] <adub> vlc does it play everything
[05:59] <BrendanM> Just about. I've personally never encountered a format VLC couldn't deal with
[05:59] <adub> brendanM cool thanks for the heads up
[05:59] <adub> i was going to go with mplayer again but wanted to try something different
[05:59] <joshua__>  hey folks, I'm unable to install ubuntu all of a sudden. I've used this exact cd in the past to install edgy no problems. But now every time I try to install the installer gets stuck on grun-install... help?
[05:59] <adub> brendanM how can i make vlc my default player
[06:00] <BrendanM> In gnome? I'm not sure
[06:00] <BrendanM> There's probably a setting in the file-manager somewhere
[06:01] <BrendanM> Try that: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1929051
[06:02] <BrendanM> Also, the only major drawback to VLC is that it doesn't have built-in browser plugin, but if you use firefox, you can get around that pretty easily by using the MediaPlayerConnectivity extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/446/
[06:02] <LjL> !info mozilla-plugin-vlc
[06:02] <ubotu> mozilla-plugin-vlc: multimedia plugin for web browsers based on VLC. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 26 kB, installed size 116 kB
[06:02] <nothlit> Ehm, vlc does
[06:02] <nothlit> just not for opera
[06:03] <nothlit> adub, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-99259e1841e1e1262f4f71e0c72d5a51b3fb69e9 , if that doesn't work, install totem-xine :)
[06:03] <BrendanM> Oh wow, I didn't know about that VLC plugin
[06:03] <BrendanM> nice
[06:03] <supersword> Ok I fo apologise for my stupidness, but I am newish to Linux, so I installed Ubuntu, but at the O/S selection thingy, I want windows xp to be the default (I am on a family computer). Is this possible? Thanks for any help.
[06:03] <joshua__> .... anyone???
[06:03] <nothlit> actually there is a beta one for opera too or something
[06:03] <joshua__>  hey folks, I'm unable to install ubuntu all of a sudden. I've used this exact cd in the past to install edgy no problems. But now every time I try to install the installer gets stuck on grub-install... help?
[06:04] <nothlit> !grub | supersword
[06:04] <ubotu> supersword: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:04] <adub> vlc works
[06:04] <adub> ill just use vlc
[06:04] <nothlit> joshua__, if someone can't help you fix the livecd, or you can't be bothered, you can always install ubuntu using the alternatecd.
[06:04] <adub> thanks brendanM
[06:05] <BrendanM> np
[06:05] <adub> how can i make it default player though in ubuntu
[06:05] <nothlit> right click on an .avi file, property tab, and Open With, select an app
[06:06] <nothlit> do it for every file extension you want to associate it with
[06:06] <adub> right i did that but does it remember the last app opened with
[06:06] <nothlit> it just uses the defauly
[06:06] <nothlit> t
[06:06] <nothlit> whatever its set to
[06:06] <adub> see when i double click a movie file totem still opens
[06:06] <supersword> awesome. Thank you nothlit. I appreciate it dude ;)
[06:06] <nothlit> its probably a different file extension
[06:06] <abo> I need to connect a bluetooth usb dongle, anyone know how can I do that in ubuntu?
[06:07] <BrendanM> Ok, so there's like almost 1000 people in here. Does *anyone* have any idea what's going on with Network Manager and VLC for me here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=336375
[06:07] <ubu> is there a deb package for battle for wesnoth 1.2 for ubuntu?
[06:07] <n2diy> ! bluetooth
[06:07] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[06:07] <coNP> ubu: not yet, I guess
[06:07] <nothlit> adub, i said right click, properties, open with tab.... not right click oipen with
[06:07] <ubu> coNP:ok
[06:07] <n2diy> ! bluetooth | abo
[06:07] <ubotu> abo: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[06:08] <joni5> hrt euch ma meinen Podcast an
[06:08] <LjL> !de | joni5
[06:08] <ubotu> joni5: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:09] <joni5> http://www.podster.de/view/5483
[06:09] <tim167> if the system says I cant modify a file's permissions because I'm not the owner, how do I become the owner ?
[06:09] <LjL> tim167: man chown
[06:09] <xtknight> what's the name of that game where you guide a rolling ball down a floor?
[06:10] <BrendanM> marble madness?
[06:10] <AlexC_> xtknight: marble gold?
[06:10] <supersword> right im gonna try it.
[06:10] <supersword> brb
[06:10] <Will> Bonjour!
[06:10] <xtknight> thanks..that took me to the right one
[06:10] <xtknight> neverball
[06:11] <AlexC_> xtknight: I'm gonna try it now to lol
[06:11] <Will> Oops
[06:11] <Will> I'm on the wrong chan :o
[06:11] <Will> bye ^
[06:11] <Will> +
[06:11] <werner62> hi
[06:11] <BrendanM> Anyone here good with VPN / Network Manager?
[06:11] <AlexC_> BrendanM: just ast the question.
[06:12] <nacer> i have found a good tools one times
[06:12] <xtknight> is there a way to turn off debug in vmware6?  sort of ruins it
[06:12] <nacer> wait i seach it
[06:12] <nwf_> what u guys recomend fluxbox or blackbox
[06:12] <whileimhere> Hi. I want to take my CD collection and put it on my computer as an archive. Will OGG be sufficient in quality to enable me to convert it back to CD without much of a loss in quality? How about when needed to convert to MP3?
[06:12] <xtknight> i know i should use vmware 5 release but vmware 5 does not compile properly on my kernel
[06:12] <BrendanM> I can't open a VPN connecting using network manager, and I get some very odd errors: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=336375
[06:13] <BrendanM> I get a "libnotify-Message: Unable to get session bus:"
[06:13] <BrendanM> anyone know what a session bus is?
[06:14] <LjL> whileimhere: converting to Vorbis and then to MP3 from the Vorbis will certainly lose you more quality that you'd possibly accept to lose. converting to Vorbis and then back to PCM will lose quality depending on how compressed you set the Vorbis files to be... but, of course, there will *always* be some loss of quality. use FLAC if you want lossless compression
[06:14] <BrendanM> I also get:
[06:14] <BrendanM> ** (nm-applet:4747): CRITICAL **: dbus_g_proxy_connect_signal: assertion `DBUS_IS_G_PROXY (proxy)' failed
[06:14] <nacer> BrendanM, http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php/OpenVPN-Admin
[06:14] <BrendanM> thanks nacer, but it's not actually my own network I'm trying to connect to
[06:14] <BrendanM> I have to connect to my university's network which uses a windows PPTP VPN system
[06:14] <nothlit> nwf_, definitely fluxbox
[06:15] <nacer> BrendanM, okay
[06:15] <BrendanM> if it were my own network, I'd gladly use OpenVPN
[06:15] <whileimhere> LjL: If I use Flac what is the file size difference there?
[06:15] <nacer> i dont even try to coonect to windows vpn
[06:15] <BrendanM> *sigh* I wish I had that luxury
[06:16] <LjL> whileimhere: remarkable. FLAC will probably reduce your files to half their size or so, while Ogg and MP3 will typically reduce it to a tenth or so, with commonly used compression ratios
[06:16] <nwf_> nothlit: do u have that installed ?
[06:16] <keithg> Hello fellows, once done upgrading or reinstalling... how would you restore an accounts access to its /home folder?
[06:16] <BrendanM> There seem to be only two Windows VPN options for Linux, PTPPConfig (which is broken by Edgy) and Network Manager, which doesn't really work for me
[06:16] <JUNK1> HI ALL
[06:16] <BrendanM> hi Junk
[06:16] <phiqtion> guys, how can i install a downloaded theme?
[06:16] <LjL> keithg: try chown -R username:username /home/username
[06:17] <keithg> LjL, Thank you very much.
[06:17] <AlexC_> phiqtion: drag and drop it onto the theme window,
[06:17] <whileimhere> LjL: is there a Ogg setting that might render a better quality than default on Sound juicer? When I would convert from OGG to MP3 it would be to take it on the ipod which doesnt do ogg yet
[06:17] <AlexC_> phiqtion: System->prefs->themes
[06:17] <hydrox> AlexC_, Damn, beat me to answering :P
[06:17] <phiqtion> AlexC_: it says invalid format
[06:17] <n2diy> keithg: you lost your user account?
[06:17] <AlexC_> phiqtion: extract it,
[06:17] <AlexC_> it may contain other archives,
[06:17] <phiqtion> AlexC_: in .tar it also says invalid
[06:17] <keithg> n2diy, Nope, I have /home on a seperate partition, and I just upgraded to edgy.
[06:17] <AlexC_> phiqtion: extract them, you may have to manaully copy the files into ~/.themes
[06:18] <n2diy> keithg: ok, but now you can't access /home?
[06:18] <phiqtion> AlexC_: i'll try that, thanks
[06:18] <keithg> n2diy, Now I can't access my users /home folder, I'm using the command n2diy gave me.
[06:18] <keithg> Woops.
[06:18] <keithg> LjL, not n2diy.
[06:19] <nothlit> nwf_, basically, blackbox is the older version, thats very slow in development and fluxbox added image support, and tabbed windows, and a better task bar, etc
[06:19] <nothlit> nwf_, and yes i have it installed
[06:19] <LjL> whileimhere: i have no idea what settings sound juicer uses by default, but i suppose you can use straight oggenc to tweak the encoding as much as possible
[06:19] <JUNK1> is there someone in here able to im or what ever to walk me through setup an install of christian ubuntu 6.10?pls also need my wireless card to work for it the cards a motorola wn825gv2
[06:20] <whileimhere> LjL: Okay. Now the next thing is whats the repo with the DVD decoder?
[06:20] <whileimhere> :)
[06:20] <LjL> Ubotu, tell whileimhere about dvd | whileimhere, see the private message from Ubotu
[06:20] <Rprp> Hmm, I dont have sound, 5mins ago i installed Edgy, but now i dont have sound, can someone me help pklease?
[06:20] <nwf_> i already used fluxbox and i love it, but that was a long long time ago
[06:21] <whileimhere> Thanks
[06:21] <erisco> how can I execute a binary file?
[06:21] <LjL> erisco: /path/to/file
[06:21] <compsman> i have a ntfs fire wire external hard drive how can i read and write to it
[06:21] <JUNK1> is there someone in here able to im or what ever to walk me through setup an install of christian ubuntu 6.10?pls also need my wireless card to work for it the cards a motorola wn825gv2.   anyone help pls???
[06:21] <LjL> erisco: from a shell. if you aren't in a shell, hit Alt+F2
[06:21] <humbolto> how to manage LVM volumes in dapper with GUI?
[06:22] <nothlit> nwf_, there is a new version of blackbox now, and it does have things the fluxbox doesn't have, but I can't use it... theres still only one app shown at a time on the task bar, and uniconifying them requires clicking on the desktop and finding the app in the menu
[06:22] <Tomasso> is there flash player for linux amd 64 ??
[06:22] <szpecu> siema
[06:23] <JUNK1> grub17 eror???
[06:23] <szpecu> jest tu ktos z polski
[06:23] <szpecu> ??
[06:23] <LjL> !pl | szpecu
[06:23] <ubotu> szpecu: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[06:23] <nothlit> Tomasso, yes, its the non amd64 one you have to run in 32bit mode
[06:23] <Rprp> Hmm, I dont have sound, 5mins ago i installed Edgy, but now i dont have sound, can someone me help pklease?
[06:23] <erisco> hey thanks that worked flawlessly
[06:23] <szpecu> coo???
[06:23] <whileimhere> LjL: Thank you.....
[06:23] <LjL> szpecu: /join #ubuntu-pl
[06:23] <szpecu> po co
[06:23] <szpecu> ljl
[06:23] <szpecu> mam do ciebie prosbe
[06:23] <LjL> szpecu: i don't understand polish
[06:24] <szpecu> o fuck
[06:24] <nothlit> Rprp, now, you don't have sound? does that mean you did?
[06:24] <BULLE> szpecu: spierdalaj
[06:24] <JUNK1> ljl does any one in here help newbies?
[06:24] <Rprp> nothlit: Yes, i dont have sound
[06:24] <Rprp> :(
[06:24] <PriceChild> !anyone|JUNK1
[06:24] <ubotu> JUNK1: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:24] <BULLE> JUNK1: depends a bit on what you mean with help i guess
[06:24] <nothlit> Rprp, when did you have sound
[06:24] <k010> i install a 2.6.20-rc4 kernel yday and it keeps on hangin on "waiting or boot fs"
[06:24] <JUNK1> price buddy....
[06:24] <k010> anyone had the same problem
[06:24] <BULLE> JUNK1: most people just dont feel like reading the documentation for newbiew, the docs are there, start by reading those
[06:24] <Rprp> nothlit: when i was using Dapper... :p
[06:25] <JUNK1> is this the rite room
[06:25] <Hoag> Can anyone tell me where the font folder is in Ubuntu, and whether dragging the font files in installs them?
[06:25] <JUNK1> sorry channel
[06:25] <PriceChild> JUNK1, please just ask your question if you have one
[06:25] <JUNK1> i did read im lost or i wouldnt be in here askin for a walk through
[06:25] <caleb> hi, I need help to install nforce drivers
[06:25] <JUNK1> is there someone in here able to im or what ever to walk me through setup an install of christian ubuntu 6.10?pls also need my wireless card to work for it the cards a motorola wn825gv2
[06:25] <k010> anyone had problems booting into a 2.6.20 kernel?
[06:26] <nothlit> Hoag, its in /usr/share/fonts and $HOME/.fonts, but you can go to system, prefrences, fonts and then advanced settings or something and the font folder
[06:26] <adub> how can i change the look and feel of ubuntu i want a black like them
[06:26] <marshall> hey guys
[06:26] <PriceChild> k010, #ubuntu+1 for feisty support... if its homebrew kernel don't expect much help
[06:26] <nothlit> Hoag, yes placing them in the folder should install them, otherwise, you may have to update the fc-cache
[06:26] <marshall> any gajim users here use msn transports?
[06:26] <k010> PriceChild, ok
[06:26] <PriceChild> JUNK1, http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/installing helps you install from live cd,
[06:27] <Hoag> nothlit: Cheers :) Havn't tried yet, just checking before I blow up my system :P
[06:27] <feniks> hello how can i run graphical application from root user to X11 screen owned by non-root user?
[06:27] <JUNK1> god [rice what am i doing wrong dang i only need a little help is that to much to ask?
[06:27] <feniks> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[06:27] <feniks> Xlib: No protocol specified
[06:27] <nothlit> !gksu | feniks
[06:27] <ubotu> feniks: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using "sudo <GUI-application>"
[06:27] <LjL> feniks: use gksudo
[06:27] <iocaste> how do i set applications to run automatically when I log in?
[06:27] <coNP> JUNK1: hi, I try to help you
[06:27] <PriceChild> JUNK1, nothing, I just gave you a guide to help you
[06:27] <LjL> Ubotu, tell iocaste about startup | iocaste, see the private message from Ubotu
[06:27] <BULLE> JUNK1: start by figuring out what chip your wireless network card uses
[06:28] <BULLE> JUNK1: then check if there even is linux support for that particular chip
[06:28] <feniks> gksudo from where?
[06:28] <BULLE> JUNK1: there are nice howtos on the ubuntu help site, for most supported chips
[06:28] <feniks> i dont have it, nor apt-get knows it
[06:28] <LjL> feniks: ...from a terminal? how else do you run applications as root, anyway?
[06:28] <feniks> LjL: by 'su' of course
[06:28] <coNP> JUNK1: what is the exact problem you have?
[06:28] <PriceChild> !sudo|feniks
[06:29] <ubotu> feniks: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:29] <PriceChild> we don't use su by default ;)
[06:29] <feniks> i know sudo, and all other normal linuxes dont block root from displaying to non-root screen
[06:29] <LjL> feniks: ... by su? "of course"? what kind of Ubuntu installation do you have? su shouldn't even work normally
[06:29] <coNP> we don't let su do what sudo has to do :)
[06:29] <feniks> LjL: kubuntu actually
[06:29] <LjL> feniks: then you want kdesu instead of gksudo
[06:29] <iocaste> ubotu: tell me about startup
[06:29] <nothlit> JUNK1, are you talking about Ubuntu CE or ichthux ubunu? also ubuntu ce uses bash scripts to install, and isn't similar to the ubuntu installation from what i know
[06:30] <mnoir> feniks: ubuntu is designed to be a little safer and one of the things is the use of sudo instead of a real root account
[06:30] <JUNK1> sorry im new
[06:30] <iocaste> !startup
[06:30] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[06:30] <JUNK1> christian ubuntu 6.10
[06:30] <LjL> iocaste, you have a tab or windows in your IRC client. it contains private messages from ubotu.
[06:31] <BULLE> feniks: sudo -s -H  might be worth taking a look at, if you like how su works
[06:31] <feniks> thank u
[06:31] <feniks> i dont quite get it why you obsessed with sudu, are you all noobs?
[06:31] <feniks> real users use su
[06:31] <LjL> !noob | feniks
[06:31] <ubotu> feniks: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[06:31] <LjL> feniks: real users don't troll
[06:31] <mnoir> feniks: did you read the nice link offered to you?
[06:31] <BULLE> feniks: real users dont realy care if they use su or sudo
[06:32] <feniks> thx guys;)
[06:32] <feniks> bye
[06:32] <BULLE> feniks: they just want to get the job done, in a safe maner
[06:32] <JUNK1> i dont meen to bug you but i read the help stuff an im still lost i no the card works in linspire an knoppix i no i need to put the driver cd in an i no i need to do something to save it so i can use it but after that i aint got a clue
[06:32] <hou5ton> I'm trying to play streaming audio from a website ... MPlayer stops about 1/3 way through buffering and will do nothing else .. and RealPlayer just breaks up constantly, even after changing the buffering settings.  Does anyone know what else I should try?
[06:32] <PriceChild> JUNK1, what card is it?
[06:32] <BULLE> JUNK1: look, i already told you what to start doing, so why dont you start doing just that ?
[06:32] <JUNK1> motorola wn825gv2
[06:33] <spyke01> W: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263
[06:33] <xiq> i'm trying to deal with an atheros pci card that doesn't work out-of-the box in edgy. lots of tutorials i find say to install "network-manager" but that doesn't appear in my apt-cache..?
[06:33] <LjL> Ubotu, tell spyke01 about gpgerr | spyke01, see the private message from Ubotu
[06:33] <spyke01> does anyone know how to fix that error?
[06:33] <PriceChild> spyke01, add the public key....
[06:33] <adub> how do i use gnome-themes  where do i look at these themes etc ??
[06:33] <nothlit> BULLE, feniks, sudo -i is also the equivalent of su -
[06:33] <marshall> does anybody here use jabber with an msn transport?
[06:34] <BlueLaguna> Is there a specific group a user needs to be added to in order for pureftpd to work with it?
[06:34] <JUNK1> bully never mind im sorry i cam in an im reallly sorry i wiped out xp for this crud hell i thought this was better  at least i got somewere with xp  dang
[06:35] <ubu> i try to install a chroot with pbuilder...E: No such script: /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/edgy : what should i do?
[06:35] <JUNK1> never mind im out ill use puppy or something
[06:35] <fgeller> hi, does anyone know how to resolve "nvidia-glx: Depends: nvidia-kernel-1.0.9629" when trying to install nvidia-glx?
[06:36] <mnoir> fgeller: have you looked here - #ubuntu-glx
[06:36] <LjL> ?
[06:36] <fgeller> mnoir: no sorry
[06:36] <sugun> Iam new to ubuntu and I have installed 5.04 I have problems playing mp3
[06:36] <fgeller> mnoir: didn't know of that ch< fgellannel
[06:36] <LjL> fgeller: and as well you shouldn't, since it doesn't exist.
[06:37] <fgeller> *channel
[06:37] <LjL> Ubotu, tell fgeller about nvidia | fgeller, see the private message from Ubotu
[06:37] <mnoir> BlueLaguna: work with it how?
[06:37] <sugun> can anyone help me
[06:37] <mnoir> fgeller: they might be quicker since they are meant especially for that stuff :)
[06:37] <LjL> sugun: 5.04 is not a supported version. get a more recent version
[06:37] <LjL> Ubotu, tell sugun about mp3 | sugun, see the private message from Ubotu
[06:37] <BlueLaguna> mnoir: I've setup pureftpd to use unix authentication, and I'm able to login, but not a user I've setup.  I figured I can login because I'm in the admin group maybe.
[06:38] <BlueLaguna> mnoir: using the pureftpd in apt
[06:38] <fgeller> mnoir: there's no one in that channel
[06:38] <sugun> thanks Ljl
[06:38] <mnoir> BlueLaguna: you mean log in to transfer - shouldn't need to be part of a group on the ftp server.
[06:38] <mnoir> fgeller: that happens sometimes..
[06:38] <BlueLaguna> hmm
[06:38] <NaPsTeR> how can i extract a file to a folder when the folder ses i dont have permission?
[06:38] <LjL> mnoir, fgeller: i'm pretty sure the channel that was meant was #ubuntu-xgl rather than #ubuntu-glx
[06:39] <cantchoos> Hi, I just installed edgy eft onto a Dell XPS M140 and whenever I close the screen and open it again the screen remains blank and I have to reboot completely to get control.
[06:39] <cantchoos> Is there a remedy to this?
[06:39] <LjL> Ubotu, tell NaPsTeR about sudo | NaPsTeR, see the private message from Ubotu
[06:39] <mnoir> fgeller: sorry - see LjL's msg!
[06:39] <fgeller> if it helps at all, i had everything, or rather nvidia-glx, install and it was working before I did a update && dist-upgrade yeesterday
[06:39] <sc0tty> hello
[06:39] <NaPsTeR> i know about sudo
[06:39] <fgeller> LjL: k
[06:40] <NaPsTeR> but i dont know the commands 2 extract something somewhere else
[06:40] <LjL> NaPsTeR: well, if you don't have permissions for a directory, you'll need to write to it as root. which means you'll have to use sudo
[06:40] <sc0tty> I'm having a weird bug with nautilus (2.14.3) on ubuntu 6.06 i386 . nautilus won't show the letter r in my files (and folders)
[06:40] <mnoir> NaPsTeR: which extract?
[06:40] <NaPsTeR> i know
[06:40] <LjL> NaPsTeR: and i have no means of knowing them, either, since i don't even know what sort of thing you're trying to extract
[06:40] <NaPsTeR> but i dont know how...i was doin it in the gui
[06:40] <mnoir> all extracts have the capability of extracting to a target
[06:41] <LjL> NaPsTeR: where are you trying to extract to, anyway? if you don't have access to a particular directory, there's probably a good reason why you don't
[06:41] <mnoir> NaPsTeR: you may wanyt to try at the commandline first
[06:41] <NaPsTeR> im trying to extract an aMSN plugin to the /usr/share/amsn/plugins
[06:41] <yosyp> Hey, how can I make some programs run before I start X, etc. ?
[06:41] <LjL> Ubotu, tell yosyp about boot | yosyp, see the private message from Ubotu
[06:41] <yosyp> Because I need to run 915 resolution before X is started, what file do I put this into?
[06:41] <t3rror_> what are the appropriate programs to run if i need to back up dvd's?
[06:42] <mnoir> yosyp: exactly when do you want it to run?
[06:42] <k010> is there a list with all the lastest install done on the system?
[06:42] <LjL> k010: /var/log/dpkg.log
[06:42] <k010> LjL, cheers
[06:42] <yosyp> this guy put it in his /etc/init.d/boot.local but he is on SUSE
[06:43] <yosyp> is there an equivalent?
[06:43] <LjL> yosyp, have you seen the message from ubotu?
[06:43] <yosyp> yeah
[06:43] <yosyp> /etc/rc.local i'm checking
[06:43] <johan__> hello, how can i have my boot in text mode instead of default ubuntu image with progress
[06:44] <LjL> yosyp: well the only possibly problem with rc.local is that i'm not sure it'll be executed before X is started, given Edgy's new asynchronous init system
[06:44] <yosyp> ouch
[06:44] <LjL> johan__: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove "splash" and "quiet"
[06:44] <BULLE> i need c++ compilation support, i just click on Applications->Add/Remove to get gui package tool, but searching for gcc, g++, gpp i come up with 0 hits, whats the c++ packages called in ubuntu ?
[06:44] <niemiec> cze
[06:44] <johan__> cant you just do esc or F2 like other OS
[06:45] <LjL> yosyp: i should try that anyway. failing that, i guess you'd have to resort to creating your own script... or, well, just hack an existing one that you know is executed before starting X ;)
[06:45] <niemiec> you stjupit
[06:45] <adub> how do i use gnome-themes  where do i look at these themes etc ??
[06:45] <LjL> niemiec: ?
[06:45] <coNP> BULLE: you can install them using synaptic (System / Administration / Synapric)
[06:45] <noobian> hi all
[06:45] <yosyp> k
[06:45] <mnoir> LjL: there is a set of std scripts for the edges of gdm - perhaps that is the correct place
[06:45] <niemiec> you dog
[06:45] <BULLE> coNP: so you have two gui package management tools, that show different packages ?
[06:45] <LjL> johan__: i think so. alt+f2 or something. you still won't have much kernel text, though
[06:45] <noobian> wich file conatins the autostarted programs in gnome?
[06:45] <niemiec> stjupit stjupit
[06:46] <coNP> BULLE: at least two :), in fact
[06:46] <johan__> thanks
[06:46] <sc0tty> adub, you can find plenty of themes on art.gnome.org
[06:46] <NaPsTeR> how do u use the mv command?
[06:46] <BULLE> coNP: oh, very confusing
[06:46] <LjL> NaPsTeR: mv source destination
[06:46] <LjL> Ubotu, tell NaPsTeR about cli | NaPsTeR, see the private message from Ubotu
[06:46] <mnoir> NaPsTeR: mv oldloc newloc
[06:46] <BULLE> coNP: and a runlevel editor that shows hardcoded stuff and not actual installed stuff
[06:46] <coNP> BULLE: add/remove programs provide only a collection of programs; however, the other _real_ package managers show all packages that are available based on the repositories you enabled
[06:46] <johan__> and if i have a process that hangs for too loong how can i edit the waiting time
[06:46] <sc0tty> adub: to switch themes or customize them you can go to the menu System>Preferences>Themes
[06:46] <adub> sc0tty i have themes now i installed the extra themes i was wanting to be able to look at them
[06:46] <coNP> BULLE: what do you mean by this runlevel editor?
[06:46] <adub> sc0tty thanks
[06:46] <mnoir> NaPsTeR: man mv for more
[06:47] <johan__> say it is waiting 60sec for network connection and would like to change the default
[06:47] <compsman> wine: cannot find '/media/ghostfire/Warcraft III/Frozen Throne.exe' and its realy there tho why it do that
[06:47] <BULLE> coNP: System->Administration->Services
[06:47] <BlueLaguna> Hmm, it seems that setting the shell to /bin/false prevents ftp login.
[06:47] <niu> i can't use the usplash
[06:47] <coNP> BULLE: yes, I found that not very useful
[06:47] <BlueLaguna> But what can I set it to to allow ftp login, but prevent ssh login?
[06:47] <mnoir> BlueLaguna: really?
[06:48] <BULLE> coNP: i installed openssh but it turns out that Services thin never shows it, it just shows a set of things, irrespectively of if those things are installed or not
[06:48] <lnX\> 
[06:48] <lnX\> hello, some that me of a hand to connect my ubuntu to Internet through swich
[06:48] <coNP> BULLE: yes, that is my problem with it, as well
[06:48] <BlueLaguna> mnoir: yes.  It worked with the default shell
[06:49] <misnix> !es
[06:49] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:49] <compsman> hey any one can tell me why wine: cannot find '/media/ghostfire/Warcraft III/Frozen Throne.exe' but its realy there tho?
[06:49] <BULLE> compsman: spaces in filenames ?
[06:49] <BULLE> compsman: its just a wild guess though
[06:49] <mnoir> BlueLaguna: some to this problem i am not seeing - ya gotta be able to allow ftp and not allow ssh
[06:49] <compsman> its a ntfs drive to..
[06:49] <misnix> espaol?
[06:50] <erisco> is there a way to run a recursive chmod on ONLY files? Not directories.
[06:50] <mnoir> !es | misnix
[06:50] <ubotu> misnix: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:50] <BULLE> erisco: use find
[06:50] <phiqtion> what's the best website to download themes from?
[06:50] <mnoir> erisco: you might need to use find with the exec parameter
[06:50] <misnix> mnoir, I thought it means was espanol
[06:50] <misnix> s/means/was/
[06:50] <niu> why?
[06:50] <compsman>  wine "/media/ghostf/Warcraft III/Frozen Throne.exe"
[06:50] <compsman> Warning: could not find DOS drive for current working directory '/home/music', starting in the Windows directory. wine: cannot find '/media/ghostf/Warcraft III/Frozen Throne.exe'
[06:50] <BlueLaguna> mnoir: umm, what were you trying to say?
[06:50] <carine_> Hello, can anybody help me with usb external hdd permission problems?
[06:51] <erisco> BULLE, mnoir, could you give me an example?
[06:51] <mnoir> blue - your goal is to allow a user an ftp only account and that has to be possible
[06:51] <frank_b> how do I switch from using totem-xine mozilla plugin to the mplayer plugin?
[06:51] <BULLE> erisco: the manpage for find will give you all the info you need
[06:51] <phiqtion> what's the best website to download themes from?
[06:51] <BULLE> erisco: the one thing that might be tricky is that you might need to escape the final ;  eg, turn it into \;
[06:52] <mnoir> erisco: find <whatever> -exec "command {};"   the {} is replaced by each found item
[06:52] <Agent_137> lol ban
[06:52] <mnoir> erisco: that syntax is approximate :)
[06:52] <erisco> sounds very risky..
[06:52] <Aldoliel> compsman, wine uses windows style file structures, it creates a "virtual" drive C:\ in the .wine directory in your home directory
[06:52] <BULLE> erisco: not any riskier then leting any other command work recursively down your filetree
[06:53] <d-s-d> hi
[06:53] <compsman> ohhhh
[06:53] <erisco> BULLE, just on one directory though
[06:53] <compsman> i need add the drive..:P
[06:53] <niu> my laptop can't look the usplash image
[06:53] <mike-e> where can i get mplayer for ubuntu?
[06:53] <compsman> in winecfg
[06:53] <d-s-d> Obviously, on ubuntu the ~/.xinirc-Script is not evaluated when an Xsession is started...
[06:53] <spyke01> LjL my sources.list matches the one from that site, in that error is 58403026387EE263 the GPG key? I tried adding it like so: sudo apt-key add - 58403026387EE263  but that didnt work
[06:53] <carine_> Can someone help with usb drive permission problem please?
[06:53] <adub> im trying to install themes from art.ubuntu.org but it keeps saying invalid file format
[06:53] <[BTF] Chm0d> hey guys can i ask a silly question?  how do i unstall a program if i installed it via ./configure
[06:53] <mnoir> erisco: you do it  first with an exec like ls then when you like the things it finds, you replace with the real command you want.  Recursion is like the force - use it wisely...  :)
[06:53] <Przemcio78> .seen Jesus Christ
[06:53] <Aldoliel> Something like that, took me a while to realise how it worked too
[06:54] <frank_b> how do I switch from using totem-xine mozilla plugin to the mplayer plugin?
[06:54] <Goat_Spirit> Hi everyone!
[06:54] <LjL> [BTF] Chm0d: "make uninstall" from the installation directory, if that's supported.
[06:54] <BULLE> [BTF] Chm0d: you will have to do ./uninstall
[06:54] <d-s-d> what other initialization-scripts can I use to execute custom commands when an Xsession begins?
[06:54] <[BTF] Chm0d> ok ty
[06:54] <BULLE> [BTF] Chm0d: or as LjL said, try "make uninstall" but that requires you to have the source at hand, and uninstall is not always a supported option
[06:54] <adub> what file format do themes have to be in to install them
[06:55] <noobian> wich file conatins the list of autostarted programs in gnome?
[06:55] <mnoir> erisco: also, often -depth is a good parm for find - it starts from the bottom up in whatever file tree you are operating
[06:55] <pauliukas> Hey guys.
[06:55] <LjL> BULLE: for that matter, i never heard of "./uninstall" before
[06:55] <erisco> mnoir, I think I'll just do this manually. Last thing I need is something bad to happen
[06:55] <[BTF] Chm0d> another question when I uninstall it and try to reinstall it does the program install with default options?  It doesn't cache what i previously did to it or anything does it?
[06:56] <mnoir> erisco: caution is always a good thing - sometime when you have the time, try find for stuff and get comfort with it - it is worth knowing
[06:56] <LjL> spyke01: ah wait, i'm afraid the source-o-matic page has changed and doesn't talk about that anymore. still, in the lists generated by sources-o-matic, there should be comments at the beginning explaining what to do - or see see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SecureApt (
[06:56] <[BTF] Chm0d> i installed ksmoothdocker and chose parabolic smoothing and it crashes im trying to reinstall it to have the defaults again
[06:56] <mnoir> erisco: another approach is to pipe the results of find into a file and use global edits to make a script that does what you want
[06:56] <pauliukas> I'm running Ubuntu Server on PowerPC. I already compiled the kernel and installed it. I've used http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu_p2. Now, I don't find a grub menu file. How do I make the system use the new kernel?
[06:57] <erisco> mnoir, well I could write a script, yes
[06:57] <LjL> or
[06:57] <erisco> mnoir, actually that is a really great idea :)
[06:57] <[BTF] Chm0d> pauliukas: you reboot you should have a choice of which kernel to use
[06:57] <LjL> !checkinstall
[06:57] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[06:57] <LjL> for that matter
[06:57] <d-s-d> Does anybody know how I can execute custom commands when an Xsession is started?
[06:57] <mnoir> erisco: there, find would merely save you the need to type every file name :)
[06:57] <pauliukas> [BTF] Chm0d, It's a headless server. I need to somehow make it use it from config files.
[06:57] <d-s-d> it seems that .xinitrc is not evaluated at startup....
[06:57] <nothlit> !grub | pauliukas
[06:57] <ubotu> pauliukas: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:57] <mnoir> erisco: which is the lion's share of the task  (thanks rioghal)
[06:57] <[BTF] Chm0d> OH
[06:57] <d-s-d> neither is .Xsession
[06:57] <zehtagebart> hi
[06:58] <pauliukas> I'm not sure if PPC version even uses grub... And I wanted to find out if there were some PPC geeks here.
[06:58] <niu> i can't see the image from usplash!
[06:58] <pauliukas> If I 'locate grub', it only brings back docs and no folders nor configs!
[06:59] <adaptr> pauliukas: grub config is in /boot/grub
[06:59] <[BTF] Chm0d> grr ok ive done a make uninstall
[06:59] <pauliukas> adaptr, Nope, doesn't exist.
[06:59] <[BTF] Chm0d> but when i reinstall it all the changes that I previously made are still there
[06:59] <[BTF] Chm0d> any ideas?
[07:00] <adaptr> pauliukas: then you probably don't have it...
[07:00] <LjL> [BTF] Chm0d: changes?
[07:00] <pauliukas> adaptr, So how do I specify the kernel on the PPC version?
[07:00] <[BTF] Chm0d> ok i installed ksmoothdocker
[07:00] <adaptr> pauliukas: oh.. PPC.. sorry :(
[07:00] <[BTF] Chm0d> i made a mistake by choosing parabolic smoothing
[07:00] <adaptr> !ppc
[07:00] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.
[07:01] <[BTF] Chm0d> when i launch ksmoothdocker it crashes
[07:01] <adaptr> gee, thanks
[07:01] <mnoir> pauliukas: doesnt PPC use yaboot?
[07:01] <LjL> [BTF] Chm0d: that'll be in the config file...
[07:01] <[BTF] Chm0d> so i cannot change the settings
[07:01] <pauliukas> mnoir, Sounds familiar... But I'm unsure.
[07:01] <[BTF] Chm0d> there is no /.ksmoothdocker in my dir
[07:01] <pauliukas> Would it have some config files?
[07:01] <LjL> [BTF] Chm0d: check ~/.kde/share/apps
[07:02] <mnoir> pauliukas: well i dunno PPC but google might be yer friend - there is usually little PPC discussion here :)
[07:02] <LjL> [BTF] Chm0d: or run "strace -e trace=file ksmoothdocker" to find out where the config file is
[07:02] <[BTF] Chm0d> k
[07:02] <pauliukas> mnoir, I'm searching the Ubuntu forums as we speak.
[07:02] <pauliukas> It helped me a lot before, but I can't seem to find anything now.
[07:02] <ubu> apt-get source doesn't work with wesnoth why?
[07:02] <spyke01> LjL i checked that page and also the top section from source-o-matic, it doesnt give the gpg key for wine, makes it look like theres not one, winehq doesnt give a key
[07:02] <ubu> i'm in dapper
[07:02] <niu> why i'cant use the usplash for edgy?
[07:02] <pauliukas> It mainly consists of threads "How do I compile my kernel on PPC?", the someone replies "Why would you ever do that!", and that's it.
[07:02] <dotcom> hi 2 all
[07:03] <zehtagebart> hi there. i have a little problem here. i followed an install script for a webcam and it work immediatly. but after a reboot its not working anymore. what i have to do that it works after reboot? insallscript ist this one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=272328
[07:03] <carine_> does anybody know how change usb drive permissions? Solutions on the message boards have been unsuccesful. I've been on this for nearly 2 hrs. please help :(
[07:03] <adaptr> carine_: you have to change the mount options
[07:04] <adaptr> assuming it's a FAT32 drive
[07:04] <abo> carine_, or try to make sure you have rw permission on the directory where the drive is mounted
[07:04] <adaptr> if it's ext3, you change the permissions while it's mounted
[07:04] <LjL> spyke01: could be... still that error is not fatal, you can install it anyway (actually, i have that and another couple of repositories without a key listed - i just have to choose "Yes" one more time when packages get upgraded)
[07:04] <[BTF] Chm0d> LjL: ty thats where it was.  I am use to gnome just switched to kde last night
[07:04] <[BTF] Chm0d> much appreciated
[07:04] <carine_> Adaptr: I tried to change the mount options with fstab all it does it adopting a new mount point when I remount the drive
[07:04] <ubu> is there a ubuntu-dev channel?
[07:04] <carine_> I also did chown and sudo nautilus
[07:05] <pauliukas> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214138&highlight=powerpc+kernel+compile
[07:05] <pauliukas> Hmm... That guy recommend just linking the files?
[07:05] <spyke01> ok thanks, i thought it might be stopping my sources update(i added more repositories and wanted to make sure i could access those files), thanks LjL
[07:05] <LjL> spyke01: can't swear it won't - i just use apt-get manually for updates
[07:06] <adaptr> carine_: there are ways to fix the mount point I think... you'l have to dive into HAL/DBUS/UDEV
[07:06] <NkZ> Greetings Guys! I wanted to know, is there a Decent MP3 player for Ubuntu? (I know that It's not a supported format) Something like Winamp Windozer but for Linux?
[07:06] <mnoir> pauliukas: hv you read the whole thread - it is an argument i think :)
[07:06] <LjL> Ubotu, tell NkZ about players | NkZ, see the private message from Ubotu
[07:07] <LjL> NkZ: i suppose the one that looks most like winamp is xmms (or beep media player)
[07:07] <LjL> NkZ: also, just about all players will play MP3 once you have the support installed
[07:07] <LjL> Ubotu, tell NkZ about mp3 | NkZ, see the private message from Ubotu
[07:07] <carine_> adaptr: I didn't know about this method. having a look now, i haven't done this before
[07:07] <RichiH> what happened 15 minutes ago?
[07:07] <LjL> NkZ: so you could just use the default Rhythmbox if you don't mind it
[07:08] <adaptr> carine_: well, if you want your drive to always show upat the same mount point you'll have to do some diggin to fix it, either in fstab or in the automount process
[07:08] <pauliukas> Gosh, I won't risk it.
[07:08] <Bruco16> hi :~)  anyone knows if there is an equalizer app for sound?
[07:08] <NkZ> Roger that! Does Rythmbox demand Codec downloads? (BTW that bot owns)
[07:08] <pauliukas> If something goes wrong, I don't feel like having to mount the HDD on another system.
[07:08] <pauliukas> No need all that trouble.
[07:09] <carine_> adaptr: thanks... I'll try fstab again + the method you recomended. I'll be back
[07:10] <LjL> NkZ: yes, i don't think you'll find many programs that will play mp3 by default without downloading anything else. xmms will i think, though.
[07:10] <LjL> NkZ: if you follow the restricted formats page, i think that'll enable mp3 support for most players
[07:10] <NkZ> Roger that. Many thanks. I will google up those Codecs.
[07:10] <adub> how do i change my default ubuntu text like my icon text my window text etc
[07:10] <juano__> LjL: xmms and you need libmp3g
[07:11] <adub> i want my text to be green
[07:11] <adub> lol
[07:11] <LjL> NkZ: what's there to google? it should all be in the restricted formats page from the bot
[07:11] <adub> green on black
[07:12] <NkZ> Roger that. :-) (Was distracted because I am also doing some research for study) he he he he
[07:12] <DrNickRiviera> i want to upgrade from dapper to edgy, is it advisable to do that using apt-get dist-upgrade or am i better of wiping root entirely and reinstalling the os?
[07:12] <LjL> Ubotu, tell DrNickRiviera about upgrade | DrNickRiviera, see the private message from Ubotu
[07:12] <LjL> DrNickRiviera: opinions will vary
[07:13] <mnoir> adub: for the terminal look at the edit menu for profiles
[07:13] <DrNickRiviera> LjL: thx, had already looked at that page
[07:14] <DrNickRiviera> am just a bit unsure about doing it without a reinstall, as i did an upgrade on a fedora box a few years ago and it broke the entire system which took me ages to get back to normal
[07:14] <adub> mnoir not jsut the terminal i mean everythign
[07:14] <NkZ> LjL The page does not mention codecs for Rythmbox
[07:14] <adub> i know how to do the terminal
[07:14] <LjL> DrNickRiviera, if something like that happens, a later reinstall is always a possibility
[07:15] <DrNickRiviera> yeah, that's a valid point
[07:15] <LjL> NkZ, third paragraph, "Install the following packages to play most proprietary formats using the Totem and Rhythmbox applications, both of which are included in Ubuntu by default"
[07:15] <NkZ> He he he he. Thanks. :-)
[07:16] <DrNickRiviera> just starting to wonder whether a reinstall wouldn't be a good idea to clean the system up a bit anyway
[07:16] <adaptr> adub: so you want to change the theme ? then do so
[07:16] <mnoir> adub: i think you will need to explore System -> Preferences a bit and hope that the apps you run honor those settings.  then come back and tell me how you did it :)
[07:16] <omarkj> Evening, I'm wondering if anybody knows where Ubuntu Edgy stores the firmware file for the ipw2200 driver, I'm unable to find any file ending with .fw.
[07:17] <adaptr> omarkj: they'll be in /lib
[07:17] <omarkj> adaptr: Ah, thanks, found it.
[07:17] <adaptr> omarkj: /lib/firmware/kernel-version to be exact
[07:20] <bluefox83> DrNickRiviera, to clean out all your old packages and such, just do sudo apt-get autoclean
[07:21] <croatoan> need some help with ATI drivers....
[07:21] <croatoan> when running fglrxinfo it still shows i am using MESA drivers
[07:21] <croatoan> followed the wiki guide for installation
[07:21] <bluefox83> think all the ati driver folks are still hung over from last night..
[07:21] <mnoir> omarkj: the command that is valuable for that kind of puzzle is locate
[07:21] <shivv> hi
[07:21] <croatoan> lol
[07:21] <adub> is there gkrellm themes that can be apt-get installed in
[07:22] <omarkj> mnoir: Yes, I did run it, updated the database first, but I must have written in a typo or something.
[07:23] <LjL> an "apt-cache search gkrellm theme" seems to suggest not
[07:23] <mnoir> omarkj: k - just wanted to let you know  (thanks rioghal)
[07:23] <croatoan> anyone in here that can help with ATI driver installation?
[07:23] <omarkj> mnoir: My bad, I should have tried a bit harder before running for help though, and I admit it. : )
[07:23] <stefg> !ati | croatoan
[07:23] <ubotu> croatoan: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:24] <mnoir> omarkj: naa - at least you tried sumpin.  btw - i found it the easy way - locate *.fw
[07:24] <adub> right i cant find anything either LjL
[07:24] <bluefox83> what the hell is fxlrxinfo?
[07:24] <croatoan> stefg: i've installed the drivers already
[07:24] <croatoan> but when i run fglrxinfo it says i'm still running the Mesa drivers
[07:25] <bluefox83> !nvidia
[07:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:25] <kitche> bluefox83: fglrxinfo is ati tool like glxinfo
[07:27] <johan__> at step 'network interfaces...' the boot stops for 60sec how can i change this
[07:28] <unclemike> ? how do i do a live upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10
[07:29] <LjL> Ubotu, tell unclemike about upgrade | unclemike, see the private message from Ubotu
[07:29] <johan__> how do you change the 60sec waiting time for 'conf network interfaces' at boot time
[07:30] <bcardarella> If I define a VirtualHost in Apache to be at another port (i.e. :8080) does Apache open this port for me or do I have to open the port myself?
[07:31] <omarkj> bcardarella: If port 8080 is blocked by a firewall you'll have to unblock it.
[07:31] <juako> hola
[07:31] <mnoir> bcardarella: apache will listen if you define the listen port correctly
[07:31] <juako> hello
[07:31] <bluefox83> what do you install in place of mesa drivers? i know i have atleast one game that wont work with mesa stuff installed..
[07:31] <juako> I CAN install glx in ubuntu
[07:31] <bcardarella> Okay, thanks. I just found the firewall guide on help.ubuntu.com ... I'll give it a shot
[07:32] <juako> have got a script to installation ?
[07:32] <mnoir> bcardarella: oh - I see - you will need to take care of the port properly in the firewall though
[07:32] <juako> I see script to debian in sonique
[07:32] <bcardarella> mnoir: thanks :)
[07:33] <mnoir> np
[07:33] <juako> in http://sonique54.free.fr/xgl/xgl.htm
[07:33] <croatoan> i get really poor frames with the MESA drivers
[07:33] <adaptr> croatoan: *everybody* does... it's software
[07:33] <croatoan> adaptr: so installing the ATI drivers for OpenGL is the right thing to do:?
[07:33] <adaptr> croatoan: I would say yes
[07:33] <mnoir> bcardarella: btw the #apache channel is pretty good but they hate the debian configuration setup so be wary if you go there  (thanks rioghal)
[07:34] <adaptr> mnoir: completely untrue
[07:34] <Subhuman> adaptr, they do.
[07:34] <croatoan> adaptr: well i installed them, but fglrxinfo is still telling me that i'm using the mesa drivers???
[07:34] <mnoir> adaptr: every time debian is mentioned they pull a very critical comment out of their bot
[07:34] <adaptr> we don't "hate" the debian setup, it's just unnecessarily complicated
[07:34] <adaptr> mnoir: then change the bot, it's public
[07:34] <bcardarella> mnoir: I know that my apache setup is okay, I just need to unblock that port... unfortunately the Ubuntu help guide on the firewall doesn't seem to informative
[07:35] <omarkj> juako: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager
[07:35] <unclemike> LjL, thanks for the upgrade info...is there away to get faster download speeds from this distro..in the package management..or unbunto just have low bandwidth
[07:35] <junk1> bulle i owe ya an apolige i didnt meen to be rude
[07:35] <mnoir> adaptr: i think it is much easier to administer and understand and i know it relies on "modern" techniques such as "include" but there you go...
[07:35] <juako> thank you omarkj
[07:35] <adaptr> croatoan: you need 3 things to get hardware OpenGL : 1. kernel video driver 2. Xorg video driver 3. hardware OpenGL driver for Xorg
[07:35] <mike-e> why can't I play movies that are hosted on a samba server?
[07:35] <spyke01> hey guys im having a problem with my 2 usual graphical games: planeshift and ut2004; planeshift causes x to restart and ut gives this error: Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual; the only change i have made has been installing the lastest alsa from source
[07:36] <adaptr> croatoan: you're missing one or more
[07:36] <LjL> Ubotu, tell unclemike about mirrors | unclemike, see the private message from Ubotu
[07:36] <croatoan> adaptr: i'm missing the OpenGL driver for Xorg
[07:36] <Tomasso> guys was installing kde using , when my computer got frozen
[07:36] <adaptr> mnoir: I actually agree, as of the versions packaged with Ubuntu, the apache setup is quite logical
[07:36] <bluefox83> is there anything i can install in place of the mesa libs? i think some of the stuff i have installed (like beryl) might need some of it
[07:36] <Tonren> Hey guys, I have my boot parameters set to "quiet splash", but as soon as my boot process gets to "Reading files needed to boot," the splash disappears and the screen goes blank, then I see a few more boot notices before GDM turns on.
[07:36] <Tomasso> now some packages seem to be broken
[07:36] <adaptr> croatoan: then you haven't got fglrx, no ?
[07:36] <Tomasso> i do fix packages and it doesnt work
[07:36] <Tomasso> what should i do?
[07:36] <mnoir> adaptr:  (thanks rioghal)
[07:36] <Tonren> Anyone know how to stop that from killing the splash?
[07:37] <croatoan> adaptr: well now i look and I see that I actually DO have that driver
[07:37] <croatoan> i followed the wiki guide to instal
[07:37] <omarkj> bcardarella: You're probably just using iptables to block the port, I have no idea if Ubuntu blocks some ports by default but the way to open 8080 TCP traffic to anyone via iptables is by writing iptables -p tcp -sport 8080 -j ACCEPT
[07:37] <croatoan> *intsall
[07:37] <adaptr> unclemike: such nonsense... an OS doesn't have "downlaod speeds"
[07:37] <croatoan> install ftw
[07:37] <Tonren> mnoir: ... did you just make a Japanese "shi" katakana?
[07:37] <adaptr> croatoan: glxinfo | grep direct
[07:37] <mike-e> why can't I play movies that are hosted on a samba server?
[07:37] <johan__> anyone managed to change the 60sec waiting time during boot at 'config network interfaces'
[07:37] <croatoan> direct rendering = no
[07:38] <mnoir> Tonren: yes but i am just using it as an elite  (thanks rioghal)  :)  (thanks rioghal)
[07:38] <adaptr> mike-e: because you need to mount the samba shares somewhere to get full access
[07:38] <croatoan> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[07:38] <unclemike> adaptr, i know...its the download speed from the repo's..thats slow
[07:38] <Tonren> mnoir: I don't get it.  An elite what?
[07:38] <adaptr> croatoan: did you configure opengl ?
[07:38] <croatoan> adaptr: what's the command?
[07:38] <mike-e> adaptr : so using the gnomevfs to connect to the share won't do it?
[07:38] <adaptr> unclemike: the repo's ? I'm almost certain you mean the package mirrors
[07:38] <omarkj> mike-e: You can, I've never been able to do it with the Google VFS thing (that is if you mount it via "Places", you have to manually mount it; mount -o username=username,password=password //location/of/share /mount/point
[07:38] <hou5ton> I'm trying to play streaming audio ... MPlayer starts to buffer, gets about 1/4 the way through, and then stops and will do no more. RealPlayer will 100% buffer, but then plays it in about 1 second blurbs, chopped all to pieces, no matter how I set the preferences.  ???
[07:38] <mnoir> Tonren: sorry - my autoreplace is overactive - s-m-i-l-e-y
[07:38] <unclemike> adaptr, yes
[07:39] <adaptr> mike-e: that would be no, then - you need to actually *mount* them under your filesystem
[07:39] <Tonren> mnoir: Oh, 'cause it looks like two eyes and a smirk.  Weird.
[07:39] <mike-e> ok thanks
[07:39] <adaptr> unclemike: well, what do you find slow ? my ADSL is 600KB/sec, and my NL mirrors will certainly go that fast
[07:39] <Zaggynl> How do I make a DVD out of  VIDEO_TS folder?
[07:39] <mnoir> Tonren: yeah - sortof :)
[07:39] <omarkj> mike-e: And remember to unmount it if you put your computer on standby, if you don't Nautulus will lock-up when you return from standby.
[07:39] <omarkj> Nautilus, sorry.
[07:39] <croatoan> adaptr: what is the command to configure OpenGL?
[07:39] <vanberge> can anybody tell me if gallery remote is runnable on ubuntu linux?
[07:40] <kitche> unclemike: us.archive.ubuntu.com has been slow for couple of days now
[07:40] <adaptr> croatoan: not sure, but the wiki should certainly have it
[07:40] <junk1> installed froze at 81% i dont no if it finished or not what should i do
[07:40] <adaptr> vanberge: that would depend on your *client* having Java, no ?
[07:40] <mnoir> Tonren: i have forgotten my Japanese (I lived there once upon a time)  I do not think I want to be typing 'shi' much - bad luck?
[07:40] <croatoan> adaptr: well it said to run aticonfig which i did
[07:40] <Tron_> anyone know why windows set to be transparent would appear to have a black backround? i've got direct rendering and all that supported with my graphics drivers
[07:40] <bcardarella> Okay, I'm getting stuck. Where should I go in my server config to have it listen on port 8080?
[07:40] <juako> Im a problem to visit my page
[07:40] <adaptr> croatoan: and what did that tell you ?
[07:40] <adaptr> bcardarella: what server ?
[07:41] <Tonren> mnoir: I don't know Japanese too much myself.  I'm sure the Katakana "shi" is pretty harmless, though.
[07:41] <bcardarella> Ubuntu Edgy Eft
[07:41] <juako> im browse the web from my AP fon
[07:41] <juako> my web is
[07:41] <juako> http://d3vlh4ck.googlepages.com/
[07:41] <adaptr> bcardarella: no... what *server* *program*
[07:41] <vanberge> adaptr, well... i would think  so but i cannot seem to install it.  i've even tried to run the package with the java vm built in
[07:41] <bcardarella> Adaptr: Apache2
[07:41] <zarul>   /j #python
[07:41] <zarul> damn
[07:41] <zarul> sorry
[07:41] <niu> help for usplash
[07:41] <unclemike> ok...im use to geting like 150 to 180 kbps..on my dsl..with mandriva or fc6
[07:41] <adaptr> vanberge: you can't *install* it ? that's.. odd, to say the least - it's included in the default install
[07:42] <tonyyarusso> !usplash | niu
[07:42] <ubotu> niu: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[07:42] <bcardarella> But I think that the firewall is also blocking the port? I'm not certain
[07:42] <vanberge> gallery remote??
[07:42] <croatoan> adaptr: not sure
[07:42] <vanberge> adaptr, ?
[07:42] <mike-e> 7172: tree connect failed: ERRDOS - ERRnosuchshare (You specified an invalid share name)
[07:42] <bluefox83> when i try to remove libgl1-mesa-glx it tries to remove nearly everything i have installed that uses opengl (amarok, beryl, emerald, xorg-xserver...)
[07:42] <junk1> 81% install then froze i turned on laptop an i got grub error 17
[07:42] <unclemike> right now im get about 32 to 50 kbps..or 3000 to 5000 bps
[07:42] <junk1> now what?
[07:42] <adaptr> bcardarella: change the Listen port to 8080 in ports.conf
[07:42] <bluefox83> how do i get around that?
[07:42] <kitche> unclemike: OSes have nothing to do with speed it's either ipv6 doing it or the mirror your using
[07:42] <adaptr> bluefox83: install a hardware-0opengl renderer first
[07:42] <omarkj> bcardarella: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/vhosts/examples.html here you can see how to correctly configure your virtualhost to listen on another port then the default one specified in httpd.conf
[07:43] <croatoan> adaptr: I think that for some reason Ubuntu is still using the original fglrx instead of the ATI version, if that makes sense
[07:43] <gpled> lost my sound.  think it is because under System-->Preferences-->sound, it keeps ignoring the input and picking the wrong sound card
[07:43] <gpled> any ideas how to fix this?
[07:43] <bluefox83> adaptr, such as? i already installed the nvidia package for edgy...
[07:43] <kitche> croatoan: there is only one fglrx which is ATI's
[07:43] <croatoan> adaptr: i followed the wiki verbatum
[07:43] <adaptr> croatoan: none whatsoever - fglrx == ati == ati only
[07:43] <mnoir> bcardarella: watch out - it is different in 6.06 and 6.10 - another config file was added to /etc/apache2 for ports
[07:43] <mnoir> another=a separate
[07:43] <croatoan> adaptr: sorry....nib here
[07:44] <juako> what is the most program P2P to download in Linux?
[07:44] <icheyne> !p2p | juako
[07:44] <ubotu> juako: Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[07:44] <Dr_Willis_Laptop> juako,  care to rephrase that?
[07:44] <adaptr> bluefox83: oh you did, did you ? and you also installed restricted-modules for your kernel, and rebooted, and installed nvidia-glx, and restarted X ?
[07:44] <bcardarella> mnoir: really? I seem to have ports.conf
[07:44] <mnoir> bcardarella:
[07:44] <adaptr> sjeez when wilol people learn ? :)
[07:44] <mnoir> bcardarella: good - that is where the line belongs!
[07:44] <junk1> help pls
[07:44] <gpled> what is the name of the config file the holds system sound settings?
[07:44] <bluefox83> adapter...did that a long time ago..guess it couldn't hurt to try again..
[07:44] <mnoir> bcardarella: you are running 6.06??
[07:44] <Tron_> anyone know why windows set to be transparent would appear to have a black backround? i've got direct rendering and all that supported with my graphics drivers
[07:44] <juako> im testing gtk-gnutella AMULE
[07:45] <omarkj> mnoir: Still, that'll affect all virtualhosts currently running, right ?
[07:45] <bcardarella> Excellent, that worked. Thanks guys!
[07:45] <juako> azureus
[07:45] <omarkj> It would be vise to simply create a new virtualhost; <Virtulahost *:8080>
[07:45] <unclemike> useing what ever mirrors the os upgrades from
[07:45] <mnoir> omarkj: the listen commands?  only those that reference the port :)
[07:45] <juako> !torrent
[07:45] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[07:45] <adaptr> bluefox83: well, the only conceivable reason why apt* would want to remove everything related to opengl when you want to uninstall mesa, is that it thinks you have no other virtual candidate installed
[07:45] <vanberge> what's the default java package in ubuntu?   or shoudl i be using sun java
[07:45] <gpled> darn, i knew that would be a hard question
[07:45] <adaptr> !java
[07:45] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[07:45] <Tron_> !transparent
[07:45] <icheyne> juako: also try Deluge for GTK
[07:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about transparent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:46] <kitche> vanberge: ubuntu uses gcj by default
[07:46] <Tron_> can someone please help me with my transparency prblem
[07:46] <adaptr> gpled: that depends, for alsa, it's asound or summin
[07:46] <mnoir> omarkj: as in, they will work
[07:46] <jannu1> how i can start .run file ?
[07:46] <icheyne> !deluge | juako
[07:46] <ubotu> juako: deluge is a new Bittorrent client, created using Python and GTK+, intended to bring a native, full-featured client to !GTK environments such as GNOME and Xfce - See http://deluge-torrent.org/ for more information
[07:46] <bluefox83> adaptr, i hate to tell you this, but i checked, i have all the prerequisites,,,
[07:46] <adaptr> jannu1: sh ./runfile
[07:46] <jannu1> ok thx
[07:46] <adaptr> bluefox83: and glxinfo | grep direct says ?
[07:46] <omarkj> mnoir: Oh, right. : )
[07:46] <yosyp> Hey, the commands worked. But now when X starts it's off center
[07:46] <yosyp> really to the right
[07:46] <mike-e> what's the 'share' structure supposed to look like i can't seem to get it right
[07:46] <jannu1> jannu1@ubuntu:~/.etwolf/pb$ sh ./pbsetup.run
[07:46] <jannu1> ./pbsetup.run: 18: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[07:46] <bluefox83> all the dependancies are there, when i start X i get the nvidia logo (i keep that there for the very purpose of making sure it's still installed)
[07:46] <yosyp> i changed the monitor settings, but they're still too much to the right
[07:46] <jannu1> i got error like that
[07:46] <Ropechoborra> What do i have to do with the ubuntu's .iso file in order to use my pendrive as a "live-cd" ?
[07:47] <adaptr> mike-e: "share structure" ?
[07:47] <mike-e> yah
[07:47] <mnoir> omarkj: remember - the listen just get apache to notice the paclets - the vhost defs say what to do with them
[07:47] <mike-e> like //SERVERNAME/WHATEVER
[07:47] <yosyp> when i take a screen shot it shows the whole screen
[07:47] <yosyp> but on the monitor it's all off center
[07:47] <adaptr> mike-e: excctly
[07:47] <mike-e> i don't know what syntax they're looking for
[07:47] <omarkj> mnoir: Si, si, that's right.
[07:47] <adaptr> mike-e: in fstab ?
[07:47] <Tron_> anyone know why windows set to be transparent would appear to have a black backround? i've got direct rendering and all that supported with my graphics drivers
[07:47] <omarkj> mnoir: I was wrong; damn, admitting that was hard. : )
[07:47] <mike-e> no i'm trying to mount it right now
[07:47] <adaptr> mike-e: and it's not "they", it is the syntax *you* are looking for.. "they" could not care less
[07:47] <mike-e> i keep getting 7332: tree connect failed: ERRDOS - ERRnosuchshare (You specified an invalid share name)
[07:48] <bluefox83> adaptr, says yes
[07:48] <adaptr> mike-e: you can test it with smbclient
[07:48] <Rprp> Hmm, If im listingen to music in amarok after +- 40sec its shuffeling to a other number, can someone me help please?
[07:48] <yosyp> !Xorg | yosyp
[07:48] <mnoir> complex too
[07:48] <ubotu> yosyp: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:48] <bluefox83> adaptr, direct render is a yes
[07:48] <mike-e> regardless i get that error
[07:48] <omarkj> mnoir: Oh, I love it.
[07:48] <adaptr> bluefox83: well, have you tried aptitude ? it usually offers a lot more info on WHY it wants to do things
[07:48] <niu> help for usplash!
[07:49] <bluefox83> adaptr, i'm using synaptic..never really liked aptitude..but guess i could give it a go...
[07:49] <morghot> Rprp: look at the prferences of amarok
[07:49] <kucinglaper> is there any update for firefox 2?
[07:49] <Rprp> I did it already
[07:49] <croatoan> anyone in here make it through an ATI driver install?
[07:49] <hou5ton> What is the most multimedia friendly linux distro?
[07:49] <mnoir> !anyone | croatoan
[07:49] <ubotu> croatoan: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:50] <Lynoure> !ati | croatoan
[07:50] <ubotu> croatoan: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:50] <adaptr> hou5ton: ubuntu, why ?
[07:50] <hou5ton> I'm trying to play streaming audio ... MPlayer starts to buffer, gets about 1/4 the way through, and then stops and will do no more. RealPlayer will 100% buffer, but then plays it in about 1 second blurbs, chopped all to pieces, no matter how I set the preferences.  ???
[07:50] <mike-e> and that's just a bias opinion
[07:50] <Dr_Willis_Laptop> ive rarely had issues installing the ati or nvidia drivers.  - but ive hacked on the X configs for ages.. so i understand the fundamentals. ;)
[07:50] <yosyp> Anyone help?
[07:50] <samuel> sup all
[07:50] <yosyp> My resolution is set, but the thing is off center
[07:50] <croatoan> Why is Ubuntu telling me that I am using Mesa OpenGL drivers when I have installed the ATI Drivers?
[07:50] <mike-e> hou5ton : you're trying to stream from some server or you're trying to broadcast?
[07:51] <samuel> anyone know of a program I can use to draw desktop icons in enlightenment?
[07:51] <yosyp> samuel: idesk
[07:51] <mike-e> samu: gimp
[07:51] <hou5ton> mike-e:   listen to an interview
[07:51] <jerp> the bot's 'anyone' complaint is anal
[07:51] <Dr_Willis_Laptop> croatoan,  you may of not edited the xorg.conf go use the fglrx drivers, and you may need to reboot/restart X
[07:51] <Lynoure> It's the "anyone" day!
[07:51] <mike-e> hou5ton : use xmms?
[07:51] <samuel> yosyp: thats it! i couldnt remember the name, thanks!
[07:51] <hou5ton> mike-e:   no ... i'm downloading it now though
[07:51] <christopher_l> how can I customize the size of gnome terminal? Is there any settings file?
[07:51] <mnoir> yosyp: have you been manually messing with yer xorg.conf?
[07:51] <croatoan> Dr_Willis_Laptop: I rebooted, but i did not edit the xorg.conf....what needs to be changed?
[07:52] <yosyp> mnoir:  yes
[07:52] <Tron_> im having a hard time getting transparent windows to work, when i set them transparent the backround just turns black ... can anyone help me fix this?
[07:52] <croatoan> i can paste if u need me to
[07:52] <Lynoure> jerp: I disagree, many people repeat that "anyone used foobar" many times over without result if they are not prompted to ask their actual question.
[07:52] <yosyp> mnoir:  the auto conf scripts put me back to 1024x768, where I need 1440x900. I already have 915resolution and it's working
[07:52] <yosyp> mnoir:  but when X is started, the whole thing is moved up and tot he right
[07:52] <omarkj> I'm having some odd problems regarding Avahi, I'm using the most up to date ipw2200 driver and firmware but I'm unable to detect any daap shares at home using the wireless connection, but I am able to detect them when I'm wired up. Avahi-daemon is running and it seems to be working (I do detect my localhost daap share) and I'm able to telnet onto the daap port on the foreign server. Googling aroud shows that a few people are having the same problem but no so
[07:53] <mnoir> yosyp: there are hardware timing valuse in there.  you may want to restore your conf and apply the changes you need again, carefully - i suspect you changed a numbr that you didn't want to
[07:53] <Lynoure> yosyp: you could try   xvidtune
[07:53] <yosyp> mnoir:  any specific values?
[07:53] <bluefox83> how the hell do you get around in aptitude? i need to go backwards in the selections, and can't seem to get it to work
[07:53] <omarkj> Oh, the foreign server is a Debian server running mt-daap, it does show up in iTunes.
[07:53] <mike-e> so anyways when mounting a windows share so i can play movies off of the server what's the syntax supposed to be for the samba share name?
[07:53] <Tonren> Hey all, I'm gonna do a fresh install because I'm getting a lot of weird shit happening.  My install is about a year old.  Any things I might forget to backup?
[07:53] <mnoir> yosyp: if you march thru the resolutions (alt/ctl/+/-) does it get better?
[07:53] <Dr_Willis_Laptop> croatoan,  that !ati wiki pages gives the details basicially you change the Driver "ati" line to  Driver "fglrx"
[07:53] <Lynoure> yosyp: maybe look at  man xvidtune  for details
[07:53] <mike-e> bluefox: just use apt-get ?
[07:54] <jerp> lynoure,  I think that would bring up the repeating problem actually
[07:54] <Lynoure> jerp: using xvidtune?
[07:54] <yosyp> mnoir: let me try
[07:54] <bluefox83> mike-e, using aptitude because it supposedly gives more answers to why it wants to remove things
[07:54] <mnoir> yosyp: vals depend on hardware - i do not mess with those directly as i am afraid of blowing up my monitor
[07:54] <jerp> Lynoure, sure, will do
[07:55] <yosyp> mnoir: ctrl/alt/- or + don't do anything
[07:55] <Fuzzy76> Anyone that can help me with Eclipse on Kubuntu 6.10 64bit? It won't start. :-/ "!MESSAGE NLS missing message: initializer_error in: org.eclipse.core.internal.runtime.messages" in ~/workspace/.metadata/.log
[07:56] <mnoir> yosyp: hmm - you  have multiple res lines in your file?
[07:56] <idefix> is printing in linux only enabled with additional charge?
[07:56] <Lynoure> mnoir: What's your opinion about recommending xvidtune to yosep? It has been like a charm for me in that kind of situations, but that was way back in Debian. Does Ubuntu have some other tool for that?
[07:56] <bluefox83> idefix, huh?
[07:56] <Shaezsche> for some reason myl aptop boots much faster when i am running on battery mode. also, cpu clocking doesnt work properly if im plugged in. any ideas?
[07:57] <mnoir> Lynoure: it is a possible cure but he didn't have the problem b4 he started changing stuff.  i dunno waht other issues vidtune might introduce
[07:57] <yosyp> mnoir:  I disabled DDC in my config and set HorizSenc/VertRefresh/DisplaySize/Modeline manually
[07:57] <Shaezsche> also "irqpoll" speeds up boot too
[07:57] <Lynoure> idefix: What do you mean?
[07:57] <yosyp> Lynoure:  yeah when I freshly installed ubuntu is was at 1280xsomething, stretched
[07:57] <Dr_Willis_Laptop> idefix,  i print all the time. :) no charge. CUPS is gpl
[07:58] <Lynoure> idefix: If you have a printer that is supported, of course you can use it as long as you keep it in ink/toner
[07:58] <idefix> Lynoure, I get "ministrative tasks have been disabled for security reasons. Please use Menu System > Administration > Printing."
[07:58] <Dr_Willis_Laptop> idefix,  now SOME drivers may not be out for free with cups at this time.
[07:58] <idefix> what is cups?
[07:58] <mnoir> yosyp: well - you can try Lynoure's solution and fall back if you do not get where you want to go :)
[07:58] <tonyyarusso> !cups
[07:58] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[07:58] <lotusleaf> Do I need to install ntp-server in order to have ntpd running? It would only be for keeping one system up to date. (I don't want to use ntpdate) The Ubuntu Wiki says all you need to install is ntp-simple but that's not true, ntpd doesn't run (but it exists) and the .conf file mentioned doesn't exist.
[07:59] <yosyp> xvditune seems like... a huge program :D
[07:59] <mnoir> lotusleaf: if you machine is goung to serve time to others, you need the server
[08:00] <lotusleaf> mnoir: it is not
[08:00] <Lynoure> yosyp: officially it is a small tool, see it's description: "xvidtune is a small tool that was part of xbase-clients" :)
[08:00] <yosyp> Lynoure: hah, should i just press auto and let it... try?
[08:00] <Lynoure> yosyp: But you do not really need to keep it around after using it.
[08:00] <mnoir> lotusleaf: it is only going to set itself, using some other server - then you need not install the server - only the client
[08:00] <lotusleaf> mnoir: the wiki mentions you only ned ntp-simple, but it doesn't start nor is the mentioned config file present
[08:00] <Tonren> I'm finally gonna reformat and wipe Windows.  I hope I don't forget t obackup anything important...
[08:01] <lotusleaf> mnoir: but the client does not function as far as I've seen
[08:01] <lotusleaf> mnoir: it's only ntpdate as usual
[08:01] <yosyp> ...? =[
[08:01] <lotusleaf> mnoir: and ntpd isn't activated
[08:01] <junk1> some one help the install freezez at 81% i tryd it twice
[08:01] <mike-e> junk: redownload the iso and burn it to a new cd
[08:02] <idefix> how many of you have Edgy Eft installed already?
[08:02] <junk1> no burner
[08:02] <mnoir> lotusleaf: ntpd serves time to others.  ntpdate is used to request time and set your time
[08:02] <mike-e> junk: order a few cds online and wait a few months then =P
[08:02] <lotusleaf> idefix: already? don't you mean fawn already? :)
[08:02] <kitche> lotusleaf: well ntpdate is the client you can use ntpd also to set time it's the daemon version of ntpdate
[08:02] <whileimhere> Is it possible to view an encrypted wmv on linux without mediaplayer?
[08:02] <Lynoure> yosyp: usually I fiddle with the left-right-down-up and shorter-taller instead
[08:02] <lotusleaf> mnoir: true, but if you read up on ntpdate it's not as accurate as using ntpd
[08:02] <idefix> lotusleaf: is printing in breezy badger possible?
[08:02] <Dr_Willis_Laptop> whileimhere,  not that i know of.. it may depend on the encryption
[08:02] <junk1> mike i need an os in the laptop i need something to run
[08:03] <lotusleaf> idefix: I don't see why it wouldn't be
[08:03] <whileimhere> okay I didnt think so
[08:03] <Lynoure> yosyp: and in very small steps.
[08:03] <christopher_l> how do I change startup size of applications?
[08:03] <mike-e> junk: is it dirty?
[08:03] <lotusleaf> kitche: I think I'll isntall ntp-server because ntpdate doesn't cut it, thanks
[08:03] <Dr_Willis_Laptop> whileimhere,  all the encrpted wmv's ive seen are the kind you err... 'dont' want to let others know you are watching.
[08:03] <Dr_Willis_Laptop> :P
[08:03] <yosyp> k i'll try
[08:03] <junk1> no its new got it yesterday
[08:03] <lotusleaf> mnoir: thanks I'll install ntp-server
[08:03] <mnoir> lotusleaf: mmmkay
[08:03] <junk1> clean as a whistel
[08:03] <machok> Hullo. May I ask a few newbee questions?
[08:03] <Lynoure> yosyp: and do read the man for xvidtune too, if you have not.
[08:04] <lotusleaf> mnoir: if you read up on ntpdate and the difference between the fuction of it and ntpd you'll notice a big difference in accuracy
[08:04] <mnoir> !ask | machok
[08:04] <ubotu> machok: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:04] <junk1> an the cheak cd didnt say any thing bad about it so i no its ok
[08:04] <kitche> lotusleaf: : well it seems like ntpd is in ntpdate ntp-simple doesnt even show yup in my packages that have ntpd
[08:04] <Dr_Willis_Laptop> whileimhere,  ive seen a huge # of malware/crudware riding alongside encrypted wmv's you can download.. i avoide all wmvs now a days.
[08:04] <Lynoure> machok: you just did. :)
[08:04] <mike-e> junk there's nothing you can do except go to a friends house, download the iso and reburn it, did you run the cd verifying thing upon installation?
[08:04] <jintxo> hey guys, if I have a package that claims that "pre-installation script returned error exit status 10", is there somehwere I can see the log for the preinst script?
[08:04] <Dave-Ubuntu> hi, i was in yesterday asking how to mount NTFS drives - well i failed miserably! no no big deal - I now have 2 drives sitting in here doing nothing! in simple terms or a FAQ how do i 1st prepare the drives for EDGY and then make them mount etc when i reboot. fdisk -l shows them listed and ready - but one has NTFS data on and the other was part of a RAID - now split
[08:04] <lotusleaf> kitche: interesting
[08:04] <machok> Well... I suppose its simple. I'm using NVidia chipset and graphics
[08:04] <machok> Using latest ubuntu (Edgy)
[08:04] <lotusleaf> kitche: I think ntpd showed up when I installed ntp
[08:05] <junk1> i did its fine
[08:05] <machok> and... i cant find neither of my harddisks
[08:05] <mike-e> dave: find the right syntax for /etc/fstab, and add them there
[08:05] <idefix> when printing a test page on my HP710C it simply doens't work :(
[08:05] <OiPenguin> Keen Newbie. I've tried Ubuntu previoulsy, but failed to get online due an obsure USB-wireless. How can I determine if my card is supported and what do I do if it isn't?
[08:05] <Zaggynl> k3b isn't reaching 16x speed with dvd burning :(
[08:05] <Zaggynl> http://www.pastebin.ca/315615 <= hdparm output
[08:05] <kitche> machok: did you install edgy yet?
[08:05] <ysiulec> Welcome All :-)
[08:05] <machok> No, I'm using the live CD
[08:05] <Dave-Ubuntu> mike: bare in mind i'm a noob! i need simple plain destructions - i mean instructions :P
[08:06] <Lynoure> Dave-Ubuntu: If you want to use them with Edgy only, do you need to have the NTFS? If not, you can use for example fdisk to repartition
[08:06] <machok> Will it make a difference if I install it on my hard drive?
[08:06] <ysiulec> Anymore speak in Polish?
[08:06] <Lynoure> !pl | ysiulec
[08:06] <ubotu> ysiulec: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[08:06] <Dave-Ubuntu> Lynoure: right - how do i use fdisk!
[08:06] <mike-e> Dave321: start by making a mounting point, i.e. where you want the drives to be present..like /home/you/Desktop/drive1 /home/you/Desktop/drive2
[08:06] <mike-e> err Dave-Ubuntu
[08:06] <rohan> why is the feisty herd 2 release not announced yet, though the cd images are out ?
[08:06] <ysiulec> Dziki ubotu
[08:06] <mike-e> Dave-Ubuntu you don't need fdisk
[08:07] <Lynoure> Dave-Ubuntu: see man fdisk about that. if you have problems, or do not understand the man, I can help you more
[08:07] <junk1> mike? i got knoppix 5 but i dont no enough to install it that an i need my wireless card to work you got any info on that i no its not ununtu
[08:07] <Dave-Ubuntu> mike-e:  ok - what do i need and where is there some simple instructions
[08:07] <kitche> rohan: it's been annouced
[08:07] <yosyp> Lynoure: I went Left-Apple is it gives me Sorry you have requested a modeline. This is not possible, or not supported by your hardware configuration...
[08:07] <yosyp> wtf?
[08:07] <rohan> kitche: oh ? was it announced on the devel-announce list ?
[08:07] <mike-e> Dave-Ubuntu : man fstab ; man mount
[08:07] <kitche> rohan: look at #ubuntu+1
[08:07] <rohan> even distro watch has not listed its announce
[08:08] <Dave-Ubuntu> :-s
[08:08] <idefix> I better switch back to windows
[08:08] <rohan> ah ok kitche
[08:08] <Lynoure> yosyp: hmm, lcd or crt?
[08:08] <junk1> mike did you see what i wrote?
[08:08] <mike-e> junk1: does the knoppix cd at least start an installation? that will help you determine if it's a hardware problem or a media problem
[08:09] <machok> I'im using live CD of the latest Ubuntu and I cant find my harddisks - NTSF and FAT32 partitions. They are neither in /dev, nor in /user, not anywhere. Do I have to install Ubuntu on my hard drive to see my harddisks and install my drivers? (Because without VGA and chipset it really s**s :) )
[08:09] <yosyp> lcd, but in the x.org i said it's a "MonitorLayout" "CRT"
[08:09] <Tonren> machok: Are they in /media?
[08:09] <Lynoure> idefix: But you have set up the printer already?
[08:09] <Zaggynl> Can anyone help me with low DVD burning speeds in k3b?
[08:09] <machok> No, they are not there
[08:09] <mike-e> machok: you need to mount them
[08:09] <machok> there are hda1... etc, but I cant open it
[08:09] <idefix> Lynoure yes except the Location, it's empty
[08:09] <machok> It tells me "Cant open..."
[08:09] <Zaggynl> Someone of the 992 peeps in here gotta know :P
[08:10] <yosyp> brb gonna remove that
[08:10] <machok> mike-e, ok, HOW do I mount them without using the console?
[08:10] <kitche> machok: so you can't do sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/hda1?
[08:10] <mike-e> macogw: mkdir ~/winblows ; mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 ~/winblows should do it
[08:10] <bluefox83> so i figured out why my stuff kept wanting to remove itself...i forgot to do an apt-get upgrade first..
[08:10] <machok> kitche, in English please :)
[08:10] <mike-e> or something relatively close to that
[08:11] <kitche> machok: that is english
[08:11] <machok> I didn't understand a word.. :)
[08:11] <idefix> Lynoure?
[08:11] <mike-e> machok: are you afraid of using your operating system?
[08:11] <Arigato> how do you get the extra buttons on a mouse to work?
[08:11] <Lynoure> Dave-Ubuntu: Let me backtrack a bit. Did you need to keep the existing data or not?
[08:11] <phiqtion> What is beryl?
[08:11] <Dave-Ubuntu> ah man adding drives was simpler in winblows days! lol - disk management - partition, format and bang - there you go - is there a gui prog for adding drives in Linux ?
[08:11] <machok> mike-e, ok, if I write in the console "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/hda1" will I be able to see my harddisks in the Live version?
[08:12] <Lynoure> Dave-Ubuntu: If not, mike-e might disagree, but I think it is easiest to go for new ext3 filesystems if you'll only use the disks with Ubuntu
[08:12] <phiqtion> !beryl
[08:12] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:12] <rohan> Dave-Ubuntu: no
[08:12] <Tonren> Hey guys, is it really worth it to compile a kernel for your arch?
[08:12] <rohan> Tonren: no
[08:12] <Dave-Ubuntu> rohan: cheers for the heads up
[08:12] <kitche> Dave-Ubuntu: yes pretty much System > then you should have a disk management
[08:12] <mike-e> machok: is your ntfs drive /dev/hda?
[08:12] <Lynoure> idefix: I cannot remember off-hand whether that means location as in /dev or as in ip... or queue
[08:12] <Tron_> im having a hard time getting transparent windows to work, when i set them transparent the backround just turns black ... can anyone help me fix this?
[08:12] <rohan> Dave-Ubuntu: but most of the time, just installing the required package is more than enough
[08:12] <linuxnewbie756> anyone use dvdrip regulary?
[08:12] <machok> mike-e yes, it is
[08:12] <rohan> and there IS a gui for installing packages, Dave-Ubuntu
[08:12] <Tonren> rohan: Howcome?
[08:12] <adub> how can i change my weather to be the right thing in fahrenheit on gkrellm
[08:12] <kitche> Tron_: what are you using?
[08:13] <Tron_> Eterm
[08:13] <Tron_> and gnome
[08:13] <aasdsa> hey ppl
[08:13] <Tron_> with the ati drivers
[08:13] <Tron_> rendering is enabled
[08:13] <rohan> Tonren: optimizations over pc architecture like i686 p4 etc are not human noticeable.
[08:13] <Dave-Ubuntu> Lynoure: problem is I am a noob big style - i bit the bullet yesterday and installed ubuntu - removing xp -
[08:13] <mike-e> machok: that should work fine
[08:13] <junk1> haha
[08:13] <Zaggynl> Can anyone help me with low DVD burning speeds in k3b?
[08:13] <rohan> Dave-Ubuntu: err.. why did you remove xp :/
[08:13] <aasdsa> im new to ubuntu can someone help me
[08:13] <junk1> sorry dave i had to
[08:14] <machok> mike-e, OK, do I have to do this every time I want to access my partition?
[08:14] <Dave-Ubuntu> rohan: cos I have another system running xp - this is my old one - and I wanted to "play" lol
[08:14] <idefix> how many manufacturers refuse to provide technical information to Linux developers?
[08:14] <kitche> Tron_: don't think gnome support transparency alone
[08:14] <Tonren> rohan: Well, the default kernel seems to be i386.  I have an AMD Turion 64, but I'm using the 32-bit CD because nothing works yet in 64bit.  It wouldn't be worth it for me?
[08:14] <Dave-Ubuntu> junk1:  no probs :P
[08:14] <rohan> Dave-Ubuntu: lol ok
[08:14] <mike-e> machok: if you don't plan on installing the os then yes
[08:14] <junk1> cograt dave play away lol
[08:14] <Tron_> huh?
[08:14] <linuxnewbie756> rohan, i will tell you why he removed xp, it sucks!
[08:14] <sarcevic> hi
[08:14] <Tron_> well i think thats what im using at least
[08:14] <Tron_> i tried fluxbox also
[08:15] <sarcevic> i've some problems with samba
[08:15] <elysium444> I have ubuntu 6.10 install and I want to install windows, how can I do this?
[08:15] <rohan> Tonren: ah no, 32bit to 64bit will surely make a huge difference
[08:15] <Tron_> the window wont go transparent though
[08:15] <rohan> linuxnewbie756: for you, sure ;)
[08:15] <Tron_> just black backround
[08:15] <linuxnewbie756> lol
[08:15] <Zaggynl> Can anyone help me with low DVD burning speeds in k3b?
[08:15] <machok> mike-e, OK, I'll install Edgy and I'll see :) 10x and have a nice day
[08:15] <mike-e> you too
[08:15] <kitche> !transparency|Tron_
[08:15] <ubotu> Tron_: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:15] <rohan> Zaggynl: what is the problem /
[08:15] <Tonren> rohan: Well, that's the thing... I'm going to be runing 32bit Ubuntu, period.  It's just running on a 64bit processor.Will it speed things up, or screw them up?
[08:16] <adub> how can i change my weather to be the right thing in fahrenheit on gkrellm
[08:16] <Lynoure> Dave-Ubuntu: then I think fdisk or some other partitioning tool is the way to go if you do not need the data from those drives. But it makes no sense to try to follow instructions from 5 people or so simultaneously...
[08:16] <Dave-Ubuntu> the problem as I say is that I have 2 40gb drives sitting there pretty and I want to prep, format and use them in linux as strage drives - also to share to the xp system - but sussing out how to do the mounting, prepping etc is way beyond me at the mo - i need some sort of step by step guide
[08:16] <Tron_> thankyou kitche
[08:16] <rohan> Tonren: it will run fast, no screw up. but you will not be utilizing the full power of your processor
[08:16] <Zaggynl> rohan, my burner supports up to 16x burning speed with DVDs, I never came farther then 4x tops or ~2.3 stable speed
[08:16] <idefix> if you parallel port device is not on the list http://www.torque.net/linux-pp.html then you cannot use it?
[08:16] <elysium444> I have ubuntu 6.10 install and I want to install windows, how can I do this?
[08:16] <rohan> Zaggynl: maybe the media does not support high speed ?
[08:16] <oxigen> is there any schedule for releases? when will be next ready?
[08:16] <mike-e> Dave-Ubuntu: if you don't care about the data on the drives then install qtparted and fix them up
[08:16] <yosyp> Lynoure: I removed the CRT line, xvidtune still isn't happy
[08:16] <Zaggynl> rohan, I'm very sure it does
[08:16] <Tonren> rohan: Yeah, but if I install 64bit ubuntu, I won't be utilizing the full power of any application in existence, particularly flash!
[08:17] <kitche> !release|oxigen
[08:17] <Dave-Ubuntu> ok - lets have a look at qtparted!
[08:17] <ubotu> oxigen: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[08:17] <mike-e> Dave-Ubuntu: i was under the impression you wanted to keep the data on the drives
[08:17] <Dave-Ubuntu> ty!
[08:17] <rohan> Tonren: lol, true :)
[08:17] <oxigen> kitche thanks!
[08:17] <rohan> Zaggynl: and in k3b the drive is configured to burn at the right speed ?
[08:17] <vishah> hello, Is it possible to use vi key-bindings in gnome applications
[08:17] <sarcevic> I have 2 subnet divided by a router, i have a server on one of this subnet and I wanna access to the server from an host of the other subnet...
[08:17] <mike-e> Dave-Ubuntu: after you get them formatted to ext3 you're going to need to add some references to them in /etc/fstab to get them mount upon your next boot
[08:17] <rohan> in settings, check devices, Zaggynl
[08:17] <Tonren> rohan: Know any good walkthroghs/tutorials/FAQs for kernel compilation?  I've never done it before.
[08:17] <sarcevic> i install samba and i setup the smb.conf file
[08:17] <rohan> Tonren: and you have no reason to do it now
[08:17] <Lynoure> yosyp: I guess it did not help you then, if it does not let you tune anything
[08:17] <Tonren> rohan: Howcome?
[08:17] <Zaggynl> rohan, I can't, but last time I checked it said something about 48x cd burning speed
[08:17] <idefix> rohan?
[08:18] <riotkittie> !kernel
[08:18] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[08:18] <rohan> Tonren: the generic kernels are just fine
[08:18] <Dave-Ubuntu> mike-e : i did orignally - but NTFS-3g was reporting that the drive had errors - so now biting the bullet again
[08:18] <sarcevic> but i can't view anything
[08:18] <rohan> idefix: yes ?
[08:18] <Tonren> rohan: I thought you said it'd be  aperformance boost from 32bit to 64bit.
[08:18] <sarcevic> is there anybody that can help me?
[08:18] <adub> how can i change my weather to be the right thing in fahrenheit on gkrellm
[08:18] <Zaggynl> rohan, it's set at auto, and it started with 'writing speed: 22713 KB/S (16.40x)'
[08:18] <idefix> rohan is that your real name or just nick?
[08:18] <kitche> Tonren: x86_64 isn't even 64 bit and nothing really uses x86_64 right now anyways
[08:18] <rohan> Tonren: yes, but not only for the kernel. if you use the whole system 64bit
[08:18] <Tonren> rohan: Oh.
[08:18] <yosyp> Lynoure: anything else? I mean the monitor says that it's on 1440x900 and no errors on the Xlog, but it's all shifted, and on the bottom there's this dark red bar that covers up about 1/5th of the screen
[08:18] <Tonren> rohan: Fair enough
[08:18] <elysium444> I have ubuntu 6.10 install and I want to install windows, how can I do this?
[08:19] <junk1> brb
[08:19] <rohan> idefix: it is my real name
[08:19] <linuxnewbie756> i have 5 vob files i want to turn into a dvd, how can i do that?
[08:19] <rohan> idefix: which device do you have, which is not listed on that site ?
[08:19] <riotkittie> elysium444: you want to set up a dual boot?
[08:19] <Lynoure> yosyp: dark red? not black?
[08:19] <Tonren> rohan: I have another tangential question fo ryou.  I'm backing up my music onto a USB 2.0 pocket hard drive, and it's taking between 1 and 3 seconds per song.  I feel like that's REALLY slow for USB 2.0.  Is it?
[08:19] <idefix> a HP 710C
[08:19] <yosyp> Lynoure: nope
[08:19] <Tonren> rohan: The songs are MP3 or OGG, about 4 - 8 MB each.  Shouldn't it be going faster?
[08:19] <linuxnewbie756> nah, thats about right
[08:19] <Lynoure> yosyp: That does not sound like anything I know.
[08:19] <Feldegast> elysium444 you can set up a dual boot.....
[08:19] <Tonren> rohan: I'm transferring them using rsync -rvz.
[08:19] <knight> hi how can i edit set?
[08:19] <yosyp> Lynoure: it also isn't on the login screen, only when logged in
[08:20] <Tonren> linuxnewbie756: Was that addressed to me?
[08:20] <kitche> Tonren: rsync is slow anyways
[08:20] <rohan> Tonren: no .. i think it is correct. i just used to copy paste, and it took ~3 seconds per song
[08:20] <riotkittie> or do you want a virtual win install or what?
[08:20] <linuxnewbie756> yes sir
[08:20] <adub> can someone help me in setting up gkrellm weather
[08:20] <Tonren> Huh, fair enough.
[08:20] <rohan> on a usb2 pendrive and a usb2 port, Tonren
[08:20] <Tonren> rohan: Same here.  Well, looks like I'll be here all day...
[08:20] <knight> hi how can i edit set
[08:20] <rohan> Tonren: large song collection, eh? :)
[08:20] <idefix> rohan the HP 710C is not on the list
[08:20] <Tonren> rohan: I think it's about 15GB.
[08:20] <elysium444> I want to set up a dual boot
[08:20] <knight> !set
[08:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about set - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:20] <Tonren> rohan: I've seen bigger, hee
[08:20] <Tonren> *hehe
[08:21] <rohan> Tonren: whoa ! how big is the pen drive ?
[08:21] <Tonren> rohan: 60GB!
[08:21] <Tonren> rohan: It's not a pen drive, it's an actual portable HD
[08:21] <Feldegast> elysium444 if you want in depth help pm me
[08:21] <yosyp> !widescreen | yosyp
[08:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about widescreen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:21] <riotkittie> elysium444: do you have free space or a partition for windows set aside. ..  and more importantly, do you have a Live CD ?
[08:21] <Tonren> rohan: It's a Western Digital Passport.
[08:21] <yosyp> !915resolution | yosyp
[08:21] <ubotu> 915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 14 kB, installed size 128 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[08:21] <knight> hi how can i edit set
[08:21] <elysium444> Feldegast:  I want to set up a dual boot but without removing ubuntu... how can i repair the bootloader after windows destroyes it
[08:21] <elysium444> ?
[08:21] <Peace_Islam> which version of ubuntu is nicer latest 6.10?
[08:21] <Zaggynl> Can anyone help me with low DVD burning speeds in k3b?
[08:22] <idefix> oh heck
[08:22] <rohan> Tonren: oh, great
[08:22] <TripleBla> Hey look!
[08:22] <TripleBla> http://www.cockeyed.com/inside/shaving/shaving7.jpg
[08:22] <TripleBla> a picture of you
[08:22] <rohan> idefix: sorry, i have no idea
[08:22] <Tonren> rohan: Yeah, it kicks butt.
[08:22] <riotkittie> elysium444: pop a Ubuntu live disc in after the win install  At the command line, "install grub"
[08:22] <linuxnewbie756> does anyone know how to use dvdrip?
[08:22] <elysium444> Feldegast: I want to know what to do after windows have destroyed the grub bootloader?
[08:22] <mnoir> !grub | elysium444 have you looked here
[08:22] <ubotu> elysium444 have you looked here: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:22] <Captain_Redbeard> Uh... I need a hand... how do I mount a device to allow users to write to it?
[08:23] <elysium444> thats all?
[08:23] <Feldegast> elysium444 riotkittie seams to know how :)
[08:23] <mnoir> elysium444: that link says what to do
[08:23] <elysium444> thanks
[08:23] <riotkittie> follow the link ubotu passed
[08:23] <mike-e> Captain_Redbeard: man chmod
[08:23] <pollywog> I thought Freenode was now OFTC
[08:23] <pollywog> I guess not
[08:23] <riotkittie> oftc?
[08:23] <mike-e> pollywog: no, it's not. same idea though.
[08:23] <mnoir> OFTC??
[08:23] <pollywog> oic
[08:24] <Dave-Ubuntu> qtparted gives me a core dump when starting with sudo lol - oh man
[08:24] <Zaggynl> Can anyone help me with low DVD burning speeds in k3b?
[08:24] <kitche> pollywog: well considered OFTC got made because everyone hated lilo there
[08:24] <mike-e> Dave-Ubuntu: use fdisk or csfdisk?
[08:24] <pollywog> lilo is the admin?
[08:24] <mike-e> was
[08:24] <Dave-Ubuntu> ok mike - on my way again lol
[08:24] <pollywog> oic
[08:24] <idefix> guess I'll have to write the HP710C driver myself
[08:24] <mnoir> Dave-Ubuntu: qtparted is graphical?  use gksudo to run it
[08:24] <idefix> anyone got a driver tutorial?
[08:24] <rohan> idefix: its a printer ?
[08:24] <idefix> yes
[08:25] <Dave-Ubuntu> ah ty mnoir
[08:25] <pollywog> I have a problem with the command 'gksudo file-roller'
[08:25] <mnoir> Dave-Ubuntu: no ty until it works :)
[08:25] <rohan> !printer | idefix
[08:25] <ubotu> idefix: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[08:25] <pollywog> I get an error that looks like an Xauthority problem
[08:25] <pollywog> is there a way around that?
[08:25] <mike-e> pollywog: is xorg configured properly?
[08:26] <Dave-Ubuntu> mnoir - i get Session management error: Authentication Rejected when seleceting the drive
[08:26] <mnoir> pollywog: is file roller a graphical program?
[08:26] <pollywog> mnoir yes it is
[08:26] <pollywog> and the advice to try again until it works sounds like Presidential advice ;)
[08:26] <bluefox83> how does nvidia-glx depend on libgl1-mesa-glx ?
[08:26] <riotkittie> stay the course.
[08:26] <riotkittie> heh
[08:27] <idefix> rohan it's not in the list :(
[08:27] <mnoir> Dave-Ubuntu: exact command?
[08:27] <rohan> idefix: :(
[08:27] <mike-e> yeah keep the political bullshit out
[08:27] <bluefox83> cus i just tried to remove that and it said it was removing just about everything i have installed..
[08:27] <mo> i can't get the nvidia driver 9746 to work. i deinstalled linux-restricted-modules and the nvidia-stuff. here's my xorg-log (http://phpfi.com/193406) and my xorg.conf (http://phpfi.com/193407). please help me.
[08:27] <phiqtion> how do i add a repository in Edgy? thx
[08:27] <Dave-Ubuntu> mnoir -= gksudo qtparted
[08:27] <pollywog> mike-e I assume xorg is properly configured since I did not mess with it
[08:27] <mike-e> phiqtion: sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:27] <adub> how do you change the four letter station id in gkrellm
[08:27] <jerp> I lost my cursor when switching resolutions in the application in "System/Preferences"  anyone have a clue?
[08:27] <mnoir> Dave-Ubuntu: sec - i do not have it installed....
[08:27] <adub> i need the correct settings for temperature
[08:28] <Dave-Ubuntu> kk
[08:28] <pollywog> gksudo generally gives me the same error whenever I try to use it
[08:28] <bluefox83> jerp, try restarting X just to see if that helps..
[08:28] <pollywog> about not being able to open a terminal
[08:28] <jerp> oops, I used the word "anyone"  please disregard that foe paw
[08:28] <mike-e> Dave-Ubuntu: what's wrong with fdisk or cfdisk?
[08:28] <rohan> phiqtion: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[08:28] <pollywog> I found the only solution was to become root
[08:28] <jerp> blue, that's the ctrl+alt+bkspace, right?
[08:28] <calamari> hi
[08:28] <Zaggynl> Can anyone help me with low DVD burning speeds in k3b?
[08:29] <Gizmo_the_Great1> hi. I have a fat partition on my Linux box (named 'mainunit') with a shared folder on it called 'MozillaProfiles'. I can access this fine using a Windows XP laptop. However, my other laptop has Ubuntu on it, and I cannot access the MozillaProfiles folder using that. Any ideas?
[08:29] <coNP> Zaggynl: what is your problem?
[08:29] <Dave-Ubuntu> mike : bare in mind this is my first 24 hours on LINUX -
[08:29] <Zaggynl> coNP, I'm trying to burn DVDs at 16x, only get to ~2.3x
[08:30] <mnoir> Dave-Ubuntu: i dunno - it works on my 6.10 system
[08:30] <Zaggynl> heh
[08:30] <mnoir> mike-e: are you saying that qtparted is not supposed to work for him?
[08:30] <Zaggynl> that one never gets old does it :/
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> wowsers  - aint seen that in ages
[08:30] <mike-e> mnoir: no?
[08:31] <yosyp> anyone here witha  19" widescren>?
[08:31] <yosyp> ?
[08:31] <AngryElf> does anyone here use DVD::Rip?
[08:32] <mnoir> Dave-Ubuntu: i am stumped - looking for the answer - have you tried gparted as well?
[08:32] <Zaggynl> Can anyone help me with low DVD burning speeds in k3b?
[08:32] <Dave-Ubuntu> mnoir - no not yet! i think i have tried most things - i seem to be missing the point gere
[08:32] <pollywog> I installed kubuntu Edgy two days ago on a laptop and I have noticed that if I do not login within a few minutes of starting the machine, the screen goes blank and I can login except remotely
[08:32] <pollywog> from ssh
[08:33] <mnoir> Dave-Ubuntu: the point being ?
[08:33] <adub> can someone help me in changing gkrellms weather plugins 4 letter code
[08:33] <Zaggynl> holy botnet batman
[08:33] <pollywog> I installed kubuntu Edgy two days ago on a laptop and I have noticed that if I do not login within a few minutes of starting the machine, the screen goes blank and I can't login except remotely
[08:33] <Wipster> err
[08:33] <Dave-Ubuntu> mnoir - all I want to do is mount the drives, format them and use them!
[08:33] <pollywog> could the problem be kdm?
[08:33] <moonstone> Hi
[08:33] <rohan> gotta sleep .. bye all, gn
[08:33] <mnoir> Dave-Ubuntu: what guide have you been following
[08:34] <bluefox83> ok, why is nvidia-glx dependant on a mesa lib?
[08:34] <mike-e> Dave-Ubuntu: allow me to welcome you to the linux world by saying all of your problems can be solved by reading man pages and google
[08:34] <gleesond> anyone know how to make my ATI card not display a white washed image?
[08:34] <moonstone> Why Ardour fonts look weird in ubuntu edgy?
[08:34] <Dave-Ubuntu> mnoir - i havent - just whats been said in here - a guide would be good!
[08:34] <pollywog> mike-e not always
[08:34] <mike-e> pollywog: always.
[08:34] <mnoir> Dave-Ubuntu: sec
[08:34] <AngryElf> gleesond, return it for a refund
[08:34] <pollywog> no, if that were true we would not be here
[08:34] <adub> does anyone in here use gkrellm ??
[08:34] <Zaggynl> Can anyone help me with low DVD burning speeds in k3b?
[08:34] <Dave-Ubuntu> mike-e: Intending to bypass the manual by asking in here :P
[08:34] <pollywog> and you are implying that howtos are completely up to date
[08:35] <mike-e> pollywog: people come to irc for help because they're too lazy to take the initiative of finding out for themselves
[08:35] <mnoir> Dave-Ubuntu: brand new disk?
[08:35] <pollywog> mike-e: if you really believe that why are you here?
[08:35] <bluefox83> Zaggynl, dvd burning is usually kinda slow O.o
[08:35] <Feldegast> the ubuntu update of restricted modules wants to remove my nvidia-glx (96.29) package.....advice?
[08:35] <mike-e> pollywog: you're either part of the solution or part of the problem
[08:35] <etank> abid I use gkrellm
[08:35] <mike-e> and i am not here for help, i'm here to help =P
[08:35] <Zaggynl> bluefox83, yeah I guess, I don't seem the only one, it's even filed as a bug and there are many reports on the forum
[08:35] <pollywog> I have tried to find info on how to fix my problem with rt2500 on my own
[08:35] <pollywog> to no avail
[08:35] <elysium444> How many primary partition can be used on a hardisk and can a logic partition be converted in a primary one?
[08:36] <Dave-Ubuntu> mnoir - no - one has NTFS data - that can be lost and the other was part of a RAID - i wanna wipe the lot and just use them exclusively on UBUNTU as storage
[08:36] <gleesond> AngryElf: thats definatly an option but it worked fine for the last year now all of a sudden it started with the white washed crap
[08:36] <pollywog> I might be plain DUMB but I am not lazy
[08:36] <mike-e> elysium444: only one primary partition as a hard drive can only have master boot record
[08:36] <Feldegast> elysium444 4 primary or 3 primary and 1 extendard is the max
[08:36] <yazid> elysium444, four in all, not easily
[08:36] <pollywog> mike-e Yeah I knew you were helping
[08:36] <elysium444> thanks
[08:37] <pollywog> but most people won't help those who can just as easily help themselves
[08:37] <bluefox83> Zaggynl, any reports of a work-around? there's no reason to use mesa, and it actually breaks some shit!
[08:37] <mnoir> Dave-Ubuntu: oh - I see - now i understand mike-e's comments :)  i suggest you google 'ubuntu new disk'  there are a number of steps i think you need
[08:37] <elysium444> can the logical be converted ? I cant do it with gparted
[08:37] <Feldegast> the extendard can have multiple ligical partitions
[08:37] <Zaggynl> bluefox83, not that I know off
[08:37] <yazid> elysium444, you'd have to transfer the EXACT values describing the logical into one of the four primaries
[08:37] <mnoir> Dave-Ubuntu: snot hard, just takes a couple of steps
[08:37] <Dave-Ubuntu> cheers Mnoir
[08:37] <mnoir> Dave-Ubuntu: and seeing it in writing is valuable
[08:38] <kitche> Dave-Ubuntu: it's its brand new you might have to format it with the cd first that it cames with
[08:38] <mike-e> if you read it, and implement it, you're more likely to remember it permanently.
[08:38] <elysium444>  yazid: how can it be done with gparted?
[08:38] <yazid> there is something you could try, would not recommend it if there is valuable data anywhere
[08:38] <mnoir> mike-e: sorry - i now understand what you were saying to Dave-Ubuntu
[08:38] <Dave-Ubuntu> hopefully see you guys in a bit with 80gb more storage!
[08:38] <yazid> no idea about the parted way
[08:39] <pollywog> I have found that qtparted, though quite good, is not as good as PartitionMagic
[08:39] <pollywog> but maybe that's just me
[08:39] <elysium444> I think I have to umount all the patitions...
[08:39] <michael117> pollywog: Why is it not as good as PartitionMagic?
[08:40] <mnoir> elysium444: yes, if you want to change them
[08:40] <mike-e> cfdisk > *
[08:40] <pollywog> michael117: I could not move partitions with it and last month I just had to reinstall everything except for the XP partition
[08:40] <elysium444> pollywog: try Gparted
[08:40] <pollywog> I tried that first
[08:40] <pollywog> same thing
[08:40] <pollywog> same result
[08:41] <pollywog> maybe I am just dumb though
[08:41] <yazid> deleting the logical and then making a primary with the EXACT same sector values SHOULD work. no warranty!
[08:41] <pollywog> but the reinstall went well
[08:41] <WarLord> hello
[08:41] <michael117> pollywog: By moving partitions do you mean resizing or what exactly?
[08:41] <mnoir> yazid: that would be after a complete backup...
[08:41] <WarLord> someone will help me with ubuntu setuping ???
[08:42] <pollywog> I wanted to make one partition smaller and give the free space to another
[08:42] <WarLord> i deleted a partition
[08:42] <Azul> yazid, are you from malaysia?
[08:42] <yazid> mnoir, that is what i mean. IF it works well, there should be no data loss though
[08:42] <WarLord> and make a new partition.
[08:42] <yazid> Azul, nope germany
[08:42] <michael117> Warlord: What do you need help with?
[08:42] <WarLord> but it showing SWAP as only 30kb
[08:42] <mnoir> WarLord: do you have a question?
[08:42] <WarLord> and the "/" is 11 GB
[08:42] <pollywog> which I was always able to do witn PM
[08:42] <Azul> yazid, ok, thought you were someone else
[08:42] <WarLord> but i have created HDD8 as "7 GB"
[08:42] <michael117> WarLord: are you in the live CD now?
[08:42] <WarLord> and SWAP as "3GB"
[08:42] <WarLord> michael117
[08:42] <WarLord> yes i am into live CD
[08:43] <WarLord> can to tell me the way of setup ?
[08:43] <pollywog> with Parted I can only do it if the paritions in question are adjacent
[08:43] <WarLord> i am into my laptop
[08:43] <WarLord> setuping ubuntu in my pc
[08:43] <adub> does anyone use hydra here ??
[08:44] <WarLord> well
[08:44] <WarLord> i think i am done :D
[08:44] <WarLord> its setuping./
[08:44] <mnoir> WarLord: why swap=3 gig?
[08:44] <idefix> !printer
[08:44] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[08:44] <WarLord> mnoir
[08:44] <pollywog> apparently there are some gui's for WPA but howto's said there were not
[08:44] <WarLord> i think swap make linux more faster
[08:44] <WarLord> isnt it ?
[08:44] <michael117> WarLord: You should be able to use GParted and delete both of the partitions you said you made. Make sure it shows a large block of unallocated space. Make the swap, then make the / root partition
[08:44] <Azul> so you would need cups in order to print
[08:44] <michael117> WarLord: No
[08:44] <Azul> make sure the cups look nice
[08:44] <WarLord> michael117 then ?
[08:45] <mnoir> WarLord: no and i think 3 gig is too much - not a problem but a waste
[08:45] <yazid> but with parted you can set up partitions which have numbering out of sync with their physical sequence. VERY confusing to some people
[08:45] <WarLord> mneptok
[08:45] <WarLord> mnoir
[08:45] <michael117> WarLord: Swap is like what the page file is in Windows. How much RAM is in your laptop?
[08:45] <WarLord> then what shoud i put ?
[08:45] <WarLord> michael117
[08:45] <WarLord> its 256
[08:45] <WarLord> SD
[08:45] <cruicent> Hi, could someone help me with permissions for a usb drive please?
[08:45] <Milosch> 1G would be a waste then
[08:45] <mnoir> WarLord: maybe 150% of main mem size
[08:45] <yazid> always recommended: 2GB nowadays
[08:46] <WarLord> well
[08:46] <loveelisha> hello
[08:46] <WarLord> 2GB is better maybe
[08:46] <Azul> cruicent, edit your /etc/fstab
[08:46] <mnoir> yazid: that is not the current opinion i read
[08:46] <WarLord> well i restarted
[08:46] <michael117> WarLord: By default, 600MB is usually allocated and I personally use 1 GB
[08:46] <knight> hi can any1 help me finding an electronics chat room?
[08:46] <doko> WarLord: more than 200% physical memory is waste
[08:46] <pollywog> knight Google is your friend
[08:46] <BearPerson> knight, there might be an ##electronics
[08:46] <yazid> the old rule of "double physical" has its root in VERY old unix workings. Which don't concern us since ages.
[08:46] <loveelisha> can warlord help me??
[08:46] <WarLord> loveelisha nop
[08:47] <Azul> i don't want to spare one whole gigabyte of my hard drive for swap space
[08:47] <WarLord> i am n00b
[08:47] <Tonren> What's the difference between XGL, AIGLX and FGLRX?  What's the difference between Beryl and Compiz?
[08:47] <dredhammer> is there a tag editor for video files like there is for mp3s?
[08:47] <Milosch> loveelisha: speak, what's the problem?
[08:47] <Azul> !noob | WarLord
[08:47] <ubotu> WarLord: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[08:47] <yazid> there IS ##electronics
[08:47] <WarLord> well
[08:47] <pollywog> jfgi?
[08:47] <pollywog> or oftc?
[08:47] <Azul> ##electronics aint what it used to be
[08:47] <Azul> it sucks now most of the time
[08:47] <loveelisha> I got banned from Azureus support room after I posted a url of a torrent site by mistake...
[08:48] <loveelisha> for the first time..
[08:48] <Arron_> Hello i need help
[08:48] <loveelisha>  :(
[08:48] <yazid> 2GB saves the day when you mean to type "dd bs=1M" and type "dd bs=1G" by accident ;)
[08:48] <Milosch> whoops
[08:48] <loveelisha> They banned me...
[08:48] <Arron_> when i login to ubuntu gnome-panel crashes
[08:48] <wick2o> hello
[08:48] <Arron_> and then when i close the bug report it crashes again can anyone help me
[08:48] <loveelisha> can u please unban me from there?
[08:48] <wick2o> anyone know any tricks to get ifplugd to work in dapper lts?
[08:48] <loveelisha> please!
[08:48] <cruicent> whats the command for finding out your hard drive partiotion things (hda1, hda2 etc)?
[08:48] <pollywog> well don't make the mistake of asking an Ubuntu question in #debian
[08:48] <Azul> loveelisha, talk to the ops
[08:48] <Lynoure> loveelisha: this is not Azureus anything
[08:48] <wick2o> cruicent: nano /etc/fstab
[08:49] <mnoir> pollywog: i imagine that is painful :)
[08:49] <pollywog> quite
[08:49] <Arron_> this is the bug report
[08:49] <Arron_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1445/
[08:49] <loveelisha> in which room should I go?
[08:49] <yazid> does anybody here run an edgy/etch hybrid btw?
[08:49] <xiq> crucient: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda ?
[08:49] <cruicent> thanks, I cant remember what 'name' my harddrive is though to put in it
[08:49] <Azul> besides, azureus ain't that hard, i don't see the need for a support channel
[08:49] <cruicent> ah yes, thanks
[08:49] <Lynoure> loveelisha: start with talking to the person who banned you.
[08:49] <Burgus> i have a problem with my ubuntu, when i turn on the pc is says something about init: rc2process ... killed my signal 11. when i type ps on a terminal i got several processes, can someone help me please ?
[08:49] <loveelisha> i can't access him..
[08:49] <loveelisha>  :(
[08:49] <Milosch> wtf is azureus (sp)
[08:50] <michael117> Milosch: BitTorrent client
[08:50] <Azul> cruicent, fdisk -l will tell you every partition in your box
[08:50] <wick2o> loveelisha: then there is nothing you can do
[08:50] <Azul> and usb drives too
[08:50] <yazid> Burgus, signal 11 is a program crashing hard
[08:50] <dredhammer> how do i edit the properties of a video file?
[08:50] <WarLord> hello
[08:50] <loveelisha> oh no...
[08:50] <wick2o> thats whats so great about running any service, you can ban whoever you want whenever you want
[08:50] <Spaghetti_Knife> Hi, I have a problem with my ftp and irc downloads.
[08:50] <Burgus> yazid: is that bad ?
[08:50] <Milosch> loveelisha: #linpeople is/might be the place to look for an admin, but not likely they can/will do anything
[08:50] <Spaghetti_Knife> They always start out strong only to taper down in bandwith to nothing.
[08:50] <WarLord> is here any ubuntu driver for Nokia 7610 cable ????
[08:50] <loveelisha> ok i will try
[08:50] <loveelisha> thanks anyway...
[08:50] <WarLord> or any win exe emulator ?
[08:50] <Arron_> i need help bad i cant get in to ubuntu properly
[08:51] <yazid> Burgus, something crashing during system load? no, it actually gives you a more defined and stable system
[08:51] <pollywog> loveelisha: how long ago did they ban you?  usually you get kicked the first time
[08:51] <wick2o> WarLord: wine
[08:51] <WarLord> copyring files....
[08:51] <WarLord> wine ?
[08:51] <loveelisha> more than 12 hrs...
[08:51] <WarLord> :o
[08:51] <michael117> WarLord: Yes, wine emulates the windows API
[08:51] <adon> Arron_: what is the problem?
[08:51] <mnoir> !wine | WarLord
[08:51] <ubotu> WarLord: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:51] <Azul> Arron_, how so?
[08:51] <WarLord> oh
[08:51] <michael117> WarLord: Wine Is Not an Emulator
[08:51] <Arron_> well when i login to ubuntu gnome-panel crashes
[08:52] <Arron_> then i get a bug report so i close that and it crashes again
[08:52] <michael117> WarLord: winehq.com
[08:52] <Arron_> so i cant get in to anything
[08:52] <loveelisha> they have permanently banned me..!
[08:52] <yazid> Arron, amd64 system?
[08:52] <WarLord> :D
[08:52] <Arron_> no
[08:52] <pollywog> loveelisha: if you have a dynamic IP, reconnect and go in with a diff nick and explain
[08:52] <ublender> hey, I just changed ram for my system, and now it won't login, isn't there a command to fix this? and if so, what is it?
[08:52] <Arron_> well i have an AMD64 CPU but im using the I386 distro
[08:52] <adon> Arron_: how about the safe gnome session
[08:52] <loveelisha> i have a static one...
[08:52] <pollywog> oh
[08:52] <Arron_> still crashes with safe gnome
[08:52] <Xera> how do i check my gtk version?
[08:53] <yazid> Arron, i had that recently (but only with amd64, with i386 ON SAME BOX it works)... esound got confused and hung the whole gnome-session process
[08:53] <dredhammer> how do i edit the properties of a video file?
[08:53] <Burgus> yazid: first time (when my pc starts) i saw this error was few days ago, when i saw it i reinstalled the whole system and now i didn't get that error when i turn on, now it is when i turn off
[08:53] <Arron_> well i was working fine until yesterday
[08:53] <michael117> WarLord: It's no where near perfect, but very impressive if you consider that the wine developers have created the ability to run a windows app from scratch
[08:53] <pollywog> loveelisha: do you also have a dialup account with your ISP?
[08:53] <Burgus> yazid: i don't know what should i say, i'm not so good in english
[08:53] <loveelisha> nopes
[08:53] <Arron_> i clicked on an iso and press extract files here and then it crashed :(
[08:53] <Azul> Arron_, what have you done?
[08:53] <rvalles> hi~
[08:53] <rvalles> block-vmdk.c:25:23: uuid/uuid.h: No such file or directory
[08:53] <Arron_> that ^
[08:53] <WarLord> oh
[08:53] <loveelisha>  :(
[08:53] <rvalles> which package has that include?
[08:53] <vakosel> hi ! i am new to the community and i want to ask if i should upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10?
[08:54] <Burgus> yazid: i was thinking that is any bad process running on it.
[08:54] <Azul> loveelisha, you're out of luck
[08:54] <Arron_> i dont see how extracting files can crash it though
[08:54] <pollywog> you could ask someone who knows you to talk to an admin for you
[08:54] <Burgus> yazid: because i got a lot when i type ps
[08:54] <Arron_> azul: would you like to see the crash log?
[08:54] <yazid> Arron, load safe xterm. start a window manager (gnome-wm &) and a second terminal. in that terminal, type "strace gnome-session". if in the lines where strace comes to a stop, it says anything about "16001", it's an esound problem
[08:54] <michael117> WarLord: Also, you might want to look into Crossover Office if you want to run MS Office
[08:54] <Azul> Arron_, i'm not a good reader of crash reports
[08:54] <Arron_> ok
[08:54] <loveelisha> don't say like that!
[08:55] <Jowi> rvalles, a simple search "apt-cache search uuid dev"
[08:55] <Arron_> well i can get on to ubuntu
[08:55] <Arron_> its just MY main login wont work
[08:55] <Arron_> just one user ID has the problem
[08:55] <rvalles> Jowi: ok
[08:55] <tomasso> why when i try to run a runnable file using ./ i get No such file or directory
[08:55] <jrib> !find uuid/uuid.h | rvalles, or use packages.ubuntu.com to search for the file
[08:55] <tomasso> ?
[08:55] <Arron_> but thats the one with all my main settings on
[08:55] <Burgus> yazid: do you have any ideas?
[08:55] <ubotu> File uuid/uuid.h found in uuid-dev
[08:55] <rvalles> ffed: uuid-dev apparently
[08:55] <yazid> Burgus, not at the moment no
[08:55] <Syntax_Error> lo
[08:55] <Azul> Arron_, backup your stuff and recreate the id maybe?
[08:55] <rvalles> but a bit confusing for it to be there and not where kvm documentation said. I guess it's kvm's wiki fault after all
[08:56] <Milosch> Syntax_Error: lo: command not found
[08:56] <Azul> Arron_, i still don't know what you did.. ^ ?
[08:56] <cruicent> in /etc/fstab, for a usb hard drive what would I need for the last setting, the numbers for dump and fsck?
[08:56] <Burgus> yazid: im afraid that if i'll turn off my pc... after few hours i cant get it on X
[08:56] <Arron_> AZUL: i did it yesterday all i did was right clicked on an ISO id just made then clicked Extract files here!
[08:57] <Syntax_Error> i am using edgym and my keyboard is now in us under x... how can i switch it back to fr ?
[08:57] <Burgus> yazid: it says that stupid error hehe, thanks anyway.
[08:57] <Arron_> and ive tried recreating the ID but it still crashes
[08:57] <cdburgess75> sound problems on my toshiba laptop in edgy
[08:57] <frost_> ey i have a question, it says on myspce that m,y java scro[t is put of date is there a way to update it with using the terminal?
[08:57] <adon> Arron_: what are the contents of your .gnome_private directory?
[08:57] <Azul> Arron_,  weird, it might crash that session only, not keep crashing
[08:57] <Arron_> one sec adon ill check
[08:58] <vakosel> how do i upgrade to 6.10?
[08:58] <Jowi> !upgrade vakosel
[08:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about upgrade vakosel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:58] <Azul> !upgrade | vakosel
[08:58] <ubotu> vakosel: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:58] <Arron_> adon: were is the .gnome-private folder?
[08:58] <vakosel> thx!
[08:58] <adon> Arron_: in your home folder
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> va/j #knoppmyth
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> doh
[08:58] <yazid> <<old debianite/server admin who rather shuts up than give wrong advice about distro SPECIFIC stuff i don`t know well :)
[08:58] <Arron_> ok one sec
[08:59] <adon> aarron:gnome2_private
[08:59] <frost> ey i have a question, it says on myspce that my java script is put of date is there a way to update it with using the terminal?
[08:59] <Burgus> so, btw, when will be the next version of ubuntu ? i heard something about festy but i'm not sure.
[08:59] <xiq> cruicent: i'm not exactly sure what dump is, but i've never seen it as anything other than 0. fsck/pass is the order in which the drives should be checked for potential fscking on boot. 0 means to never fsck it (sensible for a drive that isn't automounted)
[08:59] <Jowi> !release
[08:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[09:00] <thisheregiraffe> Burgus: there's a new release every ~6 months
[09:00] <Arron_> adon: theres nothing in my .gnome_private folder
[09:00] <Milosch> !jiggy
[09:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jiggy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:00] <yazid> cruicent, dump: again, ancient unix history
[09:00] <Arron_> adon: theres nothing in my .gnome_private folder
[09:00] <cruicent> which I havent got a clue about :)
[09:00] <adon> arron_:is there a .cache folder?
[09:01] <Arron> Ah sorry about that i closed it
[09:01] <Spaghetti_Knife> Are there any good filesharing apps besides frostwire? It's kinda screwing up on me.
[09:01] <xiq> cruicent: man fsck says the 'dump' field is only looked at by the dump(8) program. it's unlikely it is even on your system, so you don't need to worry about it. sounds like it could be an old backup system.
[09:01] <Arron> adon: as i was saying there isnt anything in .gnome-private
[09:02] <elyon> How do I make xorg.conf revert back to it's original (automatically detected) version?
[09:02] <michael117> I've been trying to burn an audio CD with either Serpentine or GnomeBaker and was able to a few days ago and whenever I would put a blank CD in the drive it would show up in Nautilus and work fine. Now though, both programs will start the burning process, convert the files, but then before actually burning it, they stop and give me errors. Also, the blank CD's no longer show up in Nautilus. Any solutions?
[09:02] <dope> is there a hotkey to paste from the clipboard when in the console?
[09:02] <yazid> dope, the middle mouse button
[09:02] <dope> anything else?
[09:02] <yazid> dope, oh, REAL console? sorr
[09:02] <yazid> y
[09:02] <xiq> dope: shift-insert
[09:02] <dope> kk thx buddies
[09:03] <cruicent> my / =0 1, /boot=0 2, /home=0 2, in my fstab so I was wondering what I should put for my external drive, I dont really understand what its doing
[09:03] <adon> Arron_: try deleting the contents of your /tmp folder
[09:03] <Arron> ok
[09:03] <Arron> be back in a sec
[09:03] <yazid> *console-deprived since I have the i810 X server running on a GMA 3000.... REALLY makes you unlearn the ALT-Fx reflex
[09:03] <dope> shift insert didn't work
[09:03] <yazid> CTRL+V
[09:03] <borisyeltsin> Hi, wpasupplicant won't update and won't uninstall, even a dpkg --force-all --remove wpasupplicant gives errors. How do I delete it?
[09:04] <dope> nope
[09:04] <Spaghetti_Knife> Are there any ftp clients for Ubuntu besides frostwire?
[09:04] <elyon> Is it even possible to make Ubuntu rescan my hardware and setup xorg.conf automatically?  I think I may have made changes that are causing problems...
[09:04] <oFF-beAt> can't play mp3s.. have installed gstreamer too
[09:04] <TtyS2> hi
[09:04] <BrendanM> hi
[09:05] <Spaghetti_Knife> Is there a program that can load mp3's to my 3rd generation ipod?
[09:05] <Rookie-1> elyon - this is what you looking for ? sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:05] <thisheregiraffe> Spaghetti_Knife: have you tried gtkpod?
[09:05] <JosefK> elyon: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> Spaghetti_Knife,  frostwire is not a ftp client. its a P2P client.
[09:05] <xiq> cruicent: it probably isn't such a great idea to have a fstab entry for  removable drive anyway, since you can't really guarantee what device name it will get (unless you do some udev cleverness).
[09:05] <Arron> adon: it says i dont have permission to delete the files
[09:05] <elyon> Rookie-1: Well, that takes me through setting it up myself.  What I'm hoping for is a way for it to set it up automatically like it did when installing Ubuntu.
[09:05] <thisheregiraffe> Spaghetti_Knife: it's in the universe.  you can do aptitude install gtkpod
[09:05] <JosefK> elyon: run the one I just posted, it's automatic
[09:06] <JosefK> elyon: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[09:06] <thisheregiraffe> Spaghetti_Knife: it works with my ipod mini (which is.. ~1.5 years old)
[09:06] <cruicent> its always been /dev/sda1 when I was in fedora, its my only sata drive so I think I should be safe
[09:06] <oFF-beAt> gstreamer0.8-plugins        installed but still gives me error.. u dun have plugins needed installed.. HELP
[09:06] <aeromix> some good program for making slideshows?
[09:06] <riotkittie> !kernel
[09:06] <elyon> JosefK: Oh, thank you.  And will that remove any video drivers I've installed (I followed too many tutorials on setting up my video drivers)
[09:06] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:06] <thisheregiraffe> Spaghetti_Knife: also, as somebody else mentioned.. frostwire isn't an ftp app.  if you need a graphical ftp client, try gftp.
[09:06] <dredhammer> how do i edit the properties of a video file?
[09:06] <Azul> oFF-beAt, what's the file type?
[09:06] <oFF-beAt> .mp3
[09:06] <JosefK> elyon: no :) if you put it there, you have to clean up the mess you left on the filesystem ^^
[09:07] <gaspipe> hey people
[09:07] <vakosel> my version is 6.06 and i used :  gksu "update-manager -c"  says my system is up to date  and i was supposed to see the upgrade manager. how come?
[09:07] <xiq> cruicent: external usb drives also take up scsi names, so if an external usb drive grabbed sda, your sata drive might get bumped to sdb..
[09:07] <elyon> JosefK:  lol great... no clue what to look for
[09:07] <JosefK> elyon: but it _will_ remove them from your xorg configuration at least
[09:07] <gaspipe> i have a noob q's
[09:07] <TtyS2> what cli command do i have to use to restart ath0
[09:07] <thisheregiraffe> oFF-beAt: look for the gstreamer "bad" and/or "ugly" plugins if you haven't installed them
[09:07] <gaspipe> i'm dl ubuntu and never worked linux b4
[09:07] <coNP> TtyS2: sudo ifdown ath0 && sudo ifup ath0
[09:07] <cruicent> no I meant the external was sata, internal are all ide
[09:07] <oFF-beAt> Azul, i have gstreamer installed.. shudn;t this solve the problem.. but still gives me plugin not found eddor.. or some other error
[09:07] <Arron> adon: i deleted the files and it didnt help
[09:07] <gaspipe> i was wondering how hard will it be to update my ipod nano
[09:08] <aeromix> hi all... do you know some good program for making image slideshows?
[09:08] <elyon> JosefK: I ran the command you pasted and its still asking me for input.
[09:08] <TtyS2> thank you very much coNP
[09:08] <Azul> oFF-beAt, what is the file type?
[09:08] <Arron> ill be back in a  min
[09:08] <Azul> oFF-beAt, sorry, ok
[09:08] <xiq> cruicent: is your sata drive always hooked up?
[09:08] <oFF-beAt> Azul, trying to play mp3s
[09:08] <Azul> oFF-beAt, it might be corrput
[09:08] <cruicent> yes
[09:08] <BrendanM> Does anyone have any suggestions for making a VPN connection with Xubuntu Edgy? I can't get either PPTPConfig or NetworkManager to work right. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=336375
[09:08] <aeromix> !slideshow
[09:08] <thisheregiraffe> oFF-beAt: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/codecs.html
[09:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slideshow - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:08] <JosefK> elyon: hmm, it shouldn't :/ definitely with -phigh?
[09:08] <Azul> oFF-beAt, try playing another file
[09:08] <BrendanM> This is a windows PPTP VPN, btw
[09:08] <elyon> JosefK: Yeah... copy/pasted it.
[09:08] <Spaghetti_Knife> So what's a good p2p?
[09:08] <yazid> BrendanM, hey, bitten my teeth out on that too today ;) tried with kvpnc, no dice
[09:09] <yazid> Spaghetti_Knife, what kind of data are you after?
[09:09] <elyon> JosefK: Although this just asked for the x server driver and resolutions.
[09:09] <cruicent> Im just trying to mount it on boot because I cant get permissions to work
[09:09] <xiq> cruicent: ah, then maybe a fstab entry is ok. the fsck field doesn't really matter.
[09:09] <oFF-beAt> man, ubuntu is such a nice distro for newbs like me.. only this damn gstreamer gets me in trouble
[09:09] <vakosel> why gksu "update-manager -c"  not works for upgrading 6.06?
[09:09] <elyon> elyon: I assume for my Radeon 9600, the driver I'd want is fglrx?
[09:09] <cruicent> ok ill put it 0 2 like the other drives, thanks
[09:09] <Spaghetti_Knife> I'm looking for music and movies, same as everyone else.
[09:09] <ndbsbo002> hi all
[09:10] <xiq> cruicent: what is the permissions problem?
[09:10] <thisheregiraffe> Spaghetti_Knife: amule is one program you could try
[09:10] <yazid> vakosel, in stock debian, this would be adapting your sources.list and apt-get dist-upgrade. not sure what smoking ruins this will leave of an ubuntu box
[09:10] <ndbsbo002> how are you all doing guyz...?
[09:10] <asfalt> elyon yes fglrx and xgl
[09:10] <ndbsbo002> i just joined the community...
[09:10] <asfalt> elyon i tried with aiglx with my 9600 se and did not work
[09:10] <ndbsbo002> i heard its helpful...and fun too!
[09:10] <salman> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=337763&page=2
[09:10] <yazid> Spaghetti_Knife, for non-mainstream music, soulseek (-> nicotine) still works well
[09:10] <gaspipe> > thisheregiraffe are u familiar with ubuntu and ipods?
[09:11] <salman> can some1 help me out
[09:11] <salman> see thread
[09:11] <ndbsbo002> with wat salman...
[09:11] <thisheregiraffe> gaspipe: a bit.  have a question?
[09:11] <asfalt> my brother uses songbird for his ipod
[09:11] <OiPenguinn> I have a ZyDAS zd1211 USB2.0 wlan adapter which works in XP, but not when I run the Ubuntu live CD. It's holding Ubuntu off as an alterantive to XP. Is there a way around this problem?
[09:11] <ndbsbo002> salman wat bout thread..?
[09:11] <gaspipe> i'm new...matter of fact dl ubuntu as we speak....just sick of M$ virus and crap...anyway I have an ipod nano
[09:11] <cruicent> xiq - my usb drive, r-clicking on the folder says rw is fine for my user, but none of the folders or files inside are, they say owner 500 and root doesnt seem to change it
[09:12] <salman> i want to boot sda1 instead of sda2
[09:12] <gaspipe> will i still be able to use/manage it via linux
[09:12] <thisheregiraffe> gaspipe: yes
[09:12] <Arron> adon: i tryed deleting the tmp folder and it makes no differnce
[09:12] <phiqtion> !beryl
[09:12] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[09:12] <gaspipe> > thisheregiraffe is there a program?
[09:12] <Spaghetti_Knife> How do I turn off my firewall?
[09:12] <Spaghetti_Knife> I suspect that's what's blocking my frostwire.
[09:12] <StraightShootin1> gaspipe... i know it is possible as I've seen others come in here and figure out how, but I don't know how to do it myself.
[09:12] <thisheregiraffe> gaspipe: yup.  i use a program called gtkpod.  it's very simple.
[09:12] <xiq> cruicent: were the files made on a different system?
[09:13] <facugaich> salman: you're using grub right?
[09:13] <salman> yes
[09:13] <thisheregiraffe> gaspipe: http://www.gtkpod.org/about.html
[09:13] <cruicent> fedora
[09:13] <gaspipe> > thisheregiraffe i saw that elsewhere... didn't know if that was still the current way
[09:13] <facugaich> salman: you wan't to boot it as the default partition?
[09:13] <gaspipe> ok
[09:13] <cruicent> ah yes
[09:13] <gaspipe> cool...thanks
[09:13] <salman> yes
[09:13] <yazid> Spaghetti_Knife, which firewall did you install?
[09:13] <cruicent> fedora has a different user value right?
[09:14] <Spaghetti_Knife> yazid: I don't think I installed one, but frostwire says there's one blocking it.
[09:14] <facugaich> salman: what have you tried doing so far?
[09:14] <binks> if something is install in /usr/bin/tovid and /usr/bin/local/tovid is it safe to remove one by sudo rm -r /usr/bin/local/tovid
[09:14] <BrendanM> Ubuntu and iPods: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9266
[09:14] <gaspipe> i saw on the website of ubuntu that you can "try" it by installing it via disk....then if you like do a full blown install
[09:14] <yazid> Spaghetti_Knife, maybe your DSL router. ubuntu seems to follow more of a "mind where you bind server processes" than a "firewall by default" policy
[09:14] <bruenig> binks, if it is the same thing and then yeah
[09:14] <Arron> Help! please
[09:14] <binks> :) thanks
[09:14] <gaspipe> is the disk install like a full? is it easy?
[09:14] <adon> arron: Can you login in a terminal session and then run gnome-panel from there?
[09:15] <Spaghetti_Knife> yazid: Oh... right... my physical router... thanks.
[09:15] <IamTUT> i need help with mp3 player problem???
[09:15] <BrendanM> gaspipe, the disk is a LiveCD
[09:15] <Arron> with the login that doesnt work?
[09:15] <bruenig> binks, there is a howto on the forums for tovid, it had an install script and was pretty good
[09:15] <Iketurner> what is the package name for installing gallery2
[09:15] <bruenig> IamTUT, what is the problem?
[09:15] <gaspipe> right livecd...
[09:15] <oFF-beAt> :/ installed gsteamer-bad /ugly n what eva that is on ubuntu page... but still no sound
[09:15] <BrendanM> that means your computer will boot from the CD and run all the programs off the disk and not install anything to the hard drive
[09:15] <gaspipe> ((didn't know the proper term))
[09:15] <Arron> adon: with the login that doesnt work?
[09:15] <gaspipe> ok cool
[09:15] <BrendanM> it will be the same as the hard drive install, but generally slower
[09:15] <IamTUT> I can't get the song off of it
[09:15] <facugaich> salman?
[09:15] <Arron> adon: becuase gnome-panel will load on any user id but that
[09:15] <oFF-beAt> ok got it working thanx
[09:15] <thisheregiraffe> Iketurner: looks like the package is called gallery2
[09:16] <thisheregiraffe> according to a search in aptitude
[09:16] <binks> yeh i wrote one too its just a friend ended up with 3 tovid installs how i dont no but just thought was a way to get rid of one
[09:16] <gaspipe> when i wish to boot from it do i have to hit a key...or just prioritize cd in bios
[09:16] <oFF-beAt> thanx for the help :D
[09:16] <yazid> Arron, does it hang or crash
[09:16] <baikonur> hi, I accidently clicked on a button that reported that this bug: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17/+bug/66176 also affects  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 (Ubuntu). How can I remove it again?
[09:16] <jc-denton> i think my apt-get is broken
[09:16] <salman> well yesterday i tried installing windows and there was no space so i gave up. when i restarted my comp ubuntu wouldn't start. i reinstalled grub and edgy got as far as the splash screen and froze(several times). Then I made a small partition and installed dapper on it thinking i could access edgy from it
[09:16] <BrendanM> gaspipe, either one would work
[09:16] <jc-denton> when i do apt-cache search it does nothing
[09:16] <salman> and now im here and i have no idea what to do
[09:16] <xiq> cruicent: fedora probably does, yes. you could go and change the owner of all of the files with chown -R. or you can force them all to be a certain user with mount options. is the drive going to move back and forth between your fedora installation?
[09:16] <Iketurner> I did a search and it didn't find it
[09:16] <jc-denton> when i do apt-get update it does Reading package lists... 6%
[09:16] <Arron> adon: it crashes then a bug report comes up, when i close the bug report the panel dissapers then comes back and the bug report comes up again
[09:16] <BrendanM> Also, keep in mind that if there's some hardware that doesn't work perfectly on the LiveCD, if you did a hardware install you could tinker with the settings and get it to work
[09:16] <jc-denton> and then stays there
[09:16] <cruicent> nope got rid of fedora, needed a change
[09:17] <thisheregiraffe> Iketurner: do you have the universe and multiverse repositories enabled?
[09:17] <yazid> salman, didn't dapper mount your other partitions?
[09:17] <Iketurner> yeah
[09:17] <Iketurner> I will check again
[09:17] <gaspipe> also...if i do livecd, and i like it.... i can have both linux and xp on 1 hdd? in other words will my HDD get messed up or can I safly and clean do both
[09:17] <jc-denton> and aptitude does the same!!
[09:17] <BrendanM> my wireless card didn't work "out of the box" from the LiveCD, but I was able to get it going by installing the right drivers
[09:17] <bruenig> IamTUT, what do you mean you can't get the song off of it?
[09:17] <thisheregiraffe> Iketurner: check, and do a: aptitude update
[09:17] <cruicent> would it be ok if i made a temp new group with id 500, added my user to it and changed the permissions then?
[09:17] <thisheregiraffe> then search again
[09:17] <BrendanM> You can have both Linux and XP on one hard drive, but they will have to be on separate partitions
[09:17] <xiq> cruicent: then chown -R is probably the cleaner solution. something like "sudo chown -R youruser.yourgroup /mnt/external/*"
[09:18] <facugaich> salman: you're in that ubuntu dapper partition?
[09:18] <salman> yes
[09:18] <gaspipe> will ubuntu make the partition?
[09:18] <IamTUT> i can load music onto it but i can't get them back off of the player to others on
[09:18] <BrendanM> have you ever partitioned hard drives before? It's not that big of a deal, but it can be kind of tricky if you're just starting
[09:18] <yazid> salman, if you do a second edgy install, doesn't it AUTOMATICALLY offer to add all the other things installed to a new GRUB menu?
[09:18] <jc-denton> ani ideas?
[09:18] <BrendanM> Gaspipe, do you already have an XP installation you want to preserve?
[09:18] <Arron> adon: when it crashes it says GTK ERROR: CANT FIND ICON FOR OPEN FOLDER!
[09:18] <xiq> cruicent: unless you have directories with meaningful permission information (like system snapshots)
[09:18] <bruenig> IamTUT, what music player are you using?
[09:18] <threeonefour> is there any dual booting documentation for dual booting linux with linux
[09:18] <baikonur> how can I remove an accidental bug assignment in launchpad?
[09:18] <IamTUT> you program or mp3 player?
[09:19] <cruicent> no just back ups from fedora
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> threeonefour,   have 1 disrto take care of grub and the grub configs... and learn your grub-fu
[09:19] <Iketurner> what is the difference between edgy and drapper
[09:19] <facugaich> salman: then why do you want to boot sda2?
[09:19] <gaspipe> >Brendan i have xp pro on my hdd already
[09:19] <riotkittie> threeonefour: probably but i cant think of any off the top of my head. it is fairly simple though
[09:19] <coNP> baikonur: you assigned yourself to some bug?
[09:19] <IamTUT> you mean**
[09:19] <Arron> adon: two minutes ill paste the error in from the terminal
[09:19] <salman> what do you mean? for edgy install i can either wipe the entire hd or manually partition
[09:19] <Iketurner> is it bad to mix the two
[09:19] <thisheregiraffe> Iketurner: dapper has long term service/support
[09:19] <adon> arron: have you installed a custom theme just for this account?
[09:19] <yazid> Arron, I'd move the .gnome* and .gconf* folders somewhere else(FROM SAFE TERMINAL) and retry
[09:19] <bruenig> IamTUT, what program are you using that is giving you the problems
[09:19] <salman> i want to boot sda1
[09:19] <StraightShootin1> threeonefour  what are you wantin to know?
[09:19] <dredhammer> how do i edit the properties of a video file?
[09:19] <Iketurner> so having the source.list with both is ok
[09:19] <xiq> cruicent: you could be smart and do something like "find -u 500 -exec chown youruser {} \;" to only change files with user id 500.
[09:19] <IamTUT> i've been trying amarok
[09:20] <BrendanM> Gaspipe, it's generally a lot easier to wipe the hard drive, create two new partitions and do two clean installs than it is to take an existing parition and resize it to make room for Linux. It can be done, it's just harder.
[09:20] <cruicent> too late, it seems to have worked though, thanks
[09:20] <facugaich> salman: oh, sorry, I misread what you said earlier
[09:20] <baikonur> coNP: no, I assigned a bug to another version of a package: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17/+bug/66176/+editstatus
[09:20] <marmer> ciao
[09:20] <BrendanM> If you google for "Dual boot" or "Dual booting" you'll find lots of information
[09:20] <riotkittie> resizing and moving is a pain!
[09:20] <yazid> salman, manually partition could be useful... it should load your partitions as they are, then you mark your small partition as /, without changing anything else
[09:20] <gaspipe> >Brendan  ewwww i don't like that...haveing to reinstall xp
[09:20] <BrendanM> riotkittie, yes it is
[09:21] <_tcc> How can I deny every user on the system access to sudo but one?
[09:21] <BrendanM> Well, you don't *have* to
[09:21] <riotkittie> BrendanM: i tend to do it that way tho :P
[09:21] <BrendanM> it's just a hassle to move/resize partitions in place
[09:21] <riotkittie> because i'm lazy.
[09:21] <threeonefour> riotkittie,  when i try to install my second os it cant detect the swap    heres what i am trying to do ubuntu is on hda1 swap is hda5  but i want to install suse on hdb1 but use the swap from hda5 can i do this and how do i do this
[09:21] <Iketurner> thanks thissheregieraffe that worked two lines
[09:21] <BrendanM> well, maybe you can give gaspipe some tips then. I almost always just start clean.
[09:21] <bruenig> threeonefour, you need to edit the fstab
[09:21] <heze> hi all, what's the 'proper' way to set up netfilter rules? i don't like using rc.local for this :) should i create my own init.d script from scratch?
[09:21] <gaspipe> >Brendan ok thanks for the info....or I can just keep using livecd till i am ready to dual boot
[09:21] <gaspipe> ok thak guys
[09:22] <BrendanM> yeah, you can. The liveCD just tends to be slow
[09:22] <thisheregiraffe> _tcc: google the file /etc/sudoers
[09:22] <BrendanM> and you'd have to save all your files to a flash drive or something
[09:22] <kitche> _tcc: make sure the one user is in admin group and everyone else not
[09:22] <DigitalNinja> Are there any tools I can use to fix a windows drive? (scan for viruses, spyware, fix the registry etc...)
[09:22] <gaspipe> how long does it take to boot from livecd the 1st time?
[09:23] <salman> one sec i think the filesystem is corrupted
[09:23] <pollywog> how can I get apt-spy to show ubuntu mirrors rather than Debian?
[09:23] <WarLord> hello
[09:23] <_tcc> I'd do it with the GUi.
[09:23] <DigitalNinja> I would like to attache the drive to my Laptop with USB
[09:23] <pollywog> I downloaded apt-spy from Ubuntu sources
[09:23] <_tcc> But gnome is stupid.
[09:23] <WarLord> where from i wil collect vmware file ?
[09:23] <riotkittie> threeonefour: i'm not familiar with SUSE or its install at all. is it completely automated, or can you manually specify?
[09:23] <WarLord> i have setuped ubuntu
[09:23] <pollywog> the GUI?
[09:23] <_tcc> And doesn't allow me to access the system configuration
[09:23] <WarLord> and i want to use it from windows
[09:23] <_tcc> retarded
[09:23] <WarLord> via vmware.
[09:23] <WarLord> is it possible ?
[09:23] <bruenig> !enter
[09:23] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:23] <yazid> WarLord, what vmware version are you using
[09:24] <Rookie-1> heze - if you know how to set rules within netfilter/iptables then it is a good idea to write it from scratch, might take a while but well worth it
[09:24] <Nighthawke> 6.10 Gnome desktop, where is the screensaver configuration file...
[09:24] <BrendanM> gaspipe, your boot time will totally depend on how fast your computer is. But you can figure it'll be 40-50% slower than a hard drive install
[09:24] <WarLord> VMWare Player 1.0.3 build-34682
[09:24] <salman> salman@salman-desktop:~$ dmesg | tail
[09:24] <salman> [17181635.352000]  EXT3-fs: group descriptors corrupted !
[09:24] <salman> [17181635.560000]  EXT3-fs error (device sda1): ext3_check_descriptors: Block bitmap for group 1648 not in group (block 4294967288)!
[09:24] <salman> [17181635.560000]  EXT3-fs: group descriptors corrupted !
[09:24] <salman> [17181647.440000]  EXT2-fs: sda1: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (4).
[09:24] <heze> rookie-1, i'm amazed there's no standard way to do this. :|
[09:24] <salman> [17181655.752000]  EXT3-fs error (device sda1): ext3_check_descriptors: Block bitmap for group 1648 not in group (block 4294967288)!
[09:24] <salman> [17181655.752000]  EXT3-fs: group descriptors corrupted !
[09:24] <salman> [17182105.432000]  EXT3-fs error (device sda1): ext3_check_descriptors: Block bitmap for group 1648 not in group (block 4294967288)!
[09:24] <salman> [17182105.432000]  EXT3-fs: group descriptors corrupted !
[09:24] <salman> [17182126.248000]  EXT3-fs error (device sda1): ext3_check_descriptors: Block bitmap for group 1648 not in group (block 4294967288)!
[09:24] <riotkittie> !paste
[09:24] <ubotu> paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[09:24] <salman> [17182126.248000]  EXT3-fs: group descriptors corrupted !
[09:24] <salman> how do i fix that?
[09:24] <WarLord> hello
[09:24] <Rookie-1> !pastebin|salman
[09:24] <StraightShootin1> gaspipe, if you can change your windows partition size before hand, using partition magic, you'll have an easier time and not have to re-install windows
[09:24] <TGPO> salmon pastebin
[09:24] <ubotu> salman: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:25] <WarLord> is it possible ??
[09:25] <gaspipe> >Brendan thanks for u'r help and info.... hope i like this.. i am just sick of have'n to fix my xp every other moth
[09:25] <salman> sorry
[09:25] <Arron> adon : yes ive installed a custom theme but i arn't using it
[09:25] <threeonefour> riotkittie, i just said suse for an example. its not the actual os that i am trying to install  i am trying to install the os from a live cd that my firend gave me i think its called    phalk
[09:25] <WarLord> both is sux
[09:25] <salman> !pastebin
[09:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:25] <WarLord> vmware and parellel desktop
[09:25] <Rookie-1> heze - once you have done this you can keep that script and move it between any distro you might try or use
[09:25] <threeonefour> riotkittie, sorry phlak
[09:25] <Arron> ADON: this is the error i get from Xterm
[09:25] <yazid> WarLord, http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/index.html  BTW even if you have player only, you can still pumpkin-scrape the downloadable sets and install something else into them :)
[09:25] <Arron> (gnome-panel:6137): Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_widget_size_allocate(): attate widget with width -3 and height 24
[09:25] <Arron> Gtk-ERROR **: file gtkrecentmanager.c: line 2248 (get_uri_shortname: assertion failed: (name !=NULL)
[09:25] <Arron> aborting...
[09:25] <Arron> ** (bug-buddy:6141): WARNING **: Couln't load icon for Open Folder
[09:26] <bruenig> !paste | Arron
[09:26] <WarLord> oh
[09:26] <ubotu> Arron: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[09:26] <Arron> ok
[09:26] <salman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1451/
[09:26] <salman> like that?
[09:26] <kleszczbartek> someone speak polish?
[09:26] <Rookie-1> !pl
[09:26] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:26] <StraightShootin1> wow... over 1000 people in channel
[09:26] <Arron> right
[09:26] <TGPO> yes salman like that
[09:27] <Arron> ADON: this is the gnome-panel error any ideas now? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1452/
[09:27] <gaspipe> later people
[09:27] <Nighthawke> 6.10 Gnome desktop, where is the screensaver configuration file so i can disable it without going through the screensaver options?
[09:27] <TGPO> salman what kernel are you running?
[09:27] <Rookie-1> !nvidia
[09:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:27] <StraightShootin1> nighthawke   i think you can disable it in "sessions"  under administration or preferences
[09:27] <riotkittie> threeonefour: ah. i'm not really sure. if your current swap isnt automatically detected, or you cant manually specify it, see if you can get away with no swap partition during the install, then using the mkswap command once its up and running
[09:28] <StraightShootin1> that keeps it from starting at boot time
[09:28] <BrendanM> Ok, so there's more than 1000 people here. Does *ANYONE* have any suggestions for how to get VPN working in Edgy? I've been at this for a long time now. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=336375
[09:28] <riotkittie> but everything i've used has either autodetected or allowed people to speciy
[09:28] <adon> arron: just a final one: move .gconf .gconfd .gnome .gnome2 folders somewhere and try to login
[09:28] <xtknight> how do i dump a physical CD to an ISO with linux?
[09:28] <ElfGirl>    ?
[09:28] <riotkittie> BrendanM: the vast majority of those here... aren't, well... *here*
[09:28] <Arron> adon: ok
[09:29] <Nighthawke> the main reason why is my ATI card is giving me grief with OpenGL
[09:29] <kleszczbartek> here's too many people for me. by
[09:29] <kitche> xtknight: with mkisofs
[09:29] <threeonefour> riotkittie, two different hard drives  i think i can do it if i just config it in grub but i will try
[09:29] <xtknight> kitche: thanks, ill look up the manual
[09:29] <Nighthawke> ok, i don't see it listed there
[09:29] <ElfGirl>      ?
[09:29] <kitche> Nighthawke: ati drivers bad even in windows
[09:29] <Rookie-1> ElfGirl - english pls
[09:29] <ElfGirl> 
[09:29] <heze> kitche, can't he just 'dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/file.iso'?
[09:29] <Nighthawke> no kiddding
[09:29] <ElfGirl> =)
[09:29] <salman> where do i find my kernel?
[09:29] <Azul> ati is crap
[09:29] <ElfGirl> i am from russia
[09:29] <Flannel> !ru | ElfGirl
[09:29] <ubotu> ElfGirl:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[09:29] <Rookie-1> !ru
[09:30] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[09:30] <salman> i think its the default though
[09:30] <Nighthawke> fglrix sucks
[09:30] <riotkittie> oops. baby's up. gotta go.
[09:30] <TGPO> salman 'uname -a'
[09:30] <xtknight> see, just a little bit of english pays off doesn't it.
[09:30] <xtknight> ;P
[09:30] <Phuzion> i like ponies
[09:30] <mike-e> eye liek porn
[09:30] <salman> 2.6.15-27-386
[09:30] <Nighthawke> ok, it looks like i'm going to force reinstall the drivers, see if matters improve
[09:30] <xtknight> what is an ISO file exactly?
[09:30] <ElfGirl> i am from Russia but English my favorite languigew
[09:30] <mike-e> xtknight: an image
[09:30] <ElfGirl> haha
[09:31] <kitche> heze: he can but I won't tell anyone to use dd if they don't know how to use it correctly for examply I don't know dd very well so I tend to not advise to use it
[09:31] <Nighthawke> !iso
[09:31] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[09:31] <Phuzion> i like pink vags
[09:31] <xtknight> just the bits of a CD image or is there a header/etc that is unextractable from the standard cd?
[09:31] <Phuzion> they are soo fluffy
[09:31] <xtknight> are bit boundaries, what not stored in the file or can i just do dd if= of=
[09:31] <ElfGirl> Rookie-1 Boo6LL|eM ugu Haxyu ygog!
[09:31] <Azul> !arabic
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about arabic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:31] <Azul> !ar
[09:31] <ElfGirl> Rookie-1 e6aHbIu ypog TbI
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:31] <Phuzion> lamo
[09:31] <DigitalNinja> can one safly scan for viruses on an NTFS file system using ClamAV and the new NTFS-3G driver?
[09:31] <BrendanM> what does !ru | BrendanM  do?
[09:32] <Azul> BrendanM, try it
[09:32] <yazid> xtknight, dd-ing off an optical will give you the data track as an iso
[09:32] <xtknight> it makes you russian, be careful
[09:32] <ElfGirl> Phuzion from Russia?
[09:32] <BrendanM> !ru | BrendanM
[09:32] <ubotu> BrendanM:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[09:32] <Colossus> We need Russian?
[09:32] <Arron> Adon: ok ive moved the files im gonna try logging in
[09:32] <BrendanM> whoa
[09:32] <BrendanM> heh
[09:32] <BjoeHrn> Hey
[09:32] <BrendanM> I think the channel just bitched me out in Russian
[09:32] <adon> arron:mmh
[09:33] <xtknight> yazid: thanks.  what about a bin/cue?  i dont want a bin but im just wondering if there's a diff between bin and iso
[09:33] <Phuzion> huh?
[09:33] <Colossus> BrendanM: it told you to please go to #ubuntu-ru for help in Russian.
[09:33] <StraightShootin1> nighthawke   can you just change the screensaver to a non-3d one?
[09:33] <Phuzion> noi am norweigan
[09:33] <lgc> Hi! Will someone help me with this problem: "scp <path>/<file>: Read-only filel system"? There is plenty of space, I do have permissions and the filesystem is reiserfs "rw". Any ideas? Thanks.
[09:33] <BrendanM> bin/cue sucks compared to Iso
[09:33] <yazid> xtknight, bin/cue is used for audio tracks usually IIRC
[09:33] <xtknight> !no | Phuzion
[09:33] <ubotu> Phuzion: Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[09:33] <BjoeHrn> Does anyone know, how I can change the "shutdown dialog" with gconf-editor? I know theres a possiblity to get a "smaller" version of the "shutdown manager".
[09:33] <Colossus> Has anyone got any resources for installing Ubuntu on a Dell Inspiron?
[09:33] <Azul> Colossus, i need help in arabic
[09:34] <ElfGirl> there a stupid idiots on this #
[09:34] <salman> anyone there?
[09:34] <mike-e> Colossus: ?
[09:34] <Arron> Adon: ok i tryed moving the files all it did was put my spalsh screen and back ground back to default still an error though :(
[09:34] <ublender> hey, I just changed ram for my system, and now it won't login, isn't there a command to fix this? and if so, what is it?
[09:34] <Colossus> mike-e: I'm trying to install Ubuntu on an Inspiron 8000, but the display is all choppy.
[09:34] <wick2o> anyone using ifplugd?
[09:34] <mike-e> coldtek: choppy?
[09:34] <Peace_Islam> Peace n Blessing of Allah be on all of u.
[09:34] <mike-e> Colossus: choppy?
[09:34] <Azul> ublender, a hardware problem won't be solved by software more likely
[09:35] <Colossus> mike-e: I think the refresh rate is off or something; I've had this happen before with laptops.
[09:35] <Shiva88> is trying to run Kontact under gnome a bad idea?
[09:35] <xtknight> dd if=/dev/hde of=~/myiso.iso          ...correct assuming my cd drive is hde?
[09:35] <mike-e> Colossus: upon installation?
[09:35] <Colossus> mike-e: basically, it looks like someone's chopped up the screen and re-assembled it wrong: there's a piece in the middle that should be on the side.
[09:35] <Azul> ublender, your motherboard might not liked the new ram
[09:35] <Colossus> mike-e: yes. It was like that during installation, and after installation, it's still that way.
[09:35] <Flannel> Shiva88: no, you'll just pull in KDE libs when you install it
[09:35] <air0day> Sylpheed claws stores folders for each of my e-mail accounts in my home.  Is there a way to make it store those folders in a specific directory, like ~/mail/ ?
[09:35] <Colossus> mike-e: I downloaded a xorg.conf for the Inspiron 8000 from Google.
[09:35] <mike-e> Colossus: i think you can do a non graphical installation and then when you initial boot just do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:35] <Azul> yazid, please don't
[09:35] <Colossus> er, from a Google search.
[09:35] <ublender> Azul: from what I was told by someone who has the same problem, they change in amount of ram is what causes this, and you need to update something via a command for it to work
[09:35] <adon> arron: this seems like a strange cache problem. I can't think of anything else though. sorry!
[09:36] <_damian> how do I start a program at system startup (before X starts)?
[09:36] <Arron> well did you read that error i sent you
[09:36] <ublender> like a dpkg-reconfigure or something
[09:36] <Azul> ublender, go ask him then
[09:36] <deepbluegene> hi.i have boot problem. i installed fedora after installing xp and ubuntu 6.10. now i am unable to boot to ubuntu.fedora and xp are working fine. what should i do to boot to ubuntu again .please help
[09:36] <Arron> adon: well did you read that error i sent you
[09:36] <Colossus> mike-e: thanks; I'll try that.
[09:36] <TGPO> Shiva88, an app is an app is an app, it doesnt make one bit of differance what you ise to draw pictures on your monitor
[09:36] <mena> Friends What if i shared a pertion with file system ext3 did others who have xp as OS will see the partition
[09:36] <xtknight> i'm going to give kernel virtualization (KVM) a try using WinXP SP2 :O
[09:36] <ublender> he forgot, and thats the problem, lol
[09:36] <Flannel> ublender: no, linux doesn't need to be told how much RAM you have.
[09:36] <mena> On a network
[09:36] <adon> arron: yes, doesn't explain much though
[09:36] <ublender> hrm
[09:37] <xtknight> !kvm
[09:37] <Shiva88> alright... i was just a little worried because when i installed KDE on my ubuntu it borked a lot of stuff :p
[09:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kvm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:37] <Arron> the one that says cant find icon
[09:37] <xtknight> !uboto
[09:37] <Flannel> mena: you want to share it through windows sharing?
[09:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uboto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:37] <Arron> adon: the one that says cant find icon?
[09:37] <Jowi> Colossus, sounds more like a video driver bug. you can try to disable HorizSync in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and enable VertRefresh 60 (as this is an LCD monitor 60 will work fine)
[09:37] <xtknight> !ubotu
[09:37] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:37] <Tchaka> Does anybody know a program which can convert asf files to mp3?
[09:37] <xtknight> Tchaka: mencoder maybe
[09:37] <Azul> installing more than one desktop environment is a waste of space in my opinion
[09:38] <mike-e> Jowi: i don't think he's gotten past the installation
[09:38] <xtknight> Tchaka: youll lose quality by going to mp3 though.  consider a lossless format but is there a specific reason why u dont want asf?
[09:38] <air0day> How do I change where sylpheed-claws stores my mail?
[09:38] <Shiva88> in my case... it was a big waste of time trying to get beryl and my sound to function correctly again :p
[09:38] <mena> Flannel, Windows share how do i share itthrow it ..i was going to share it mormally
[09:38] <Jowi> Colossus, if the artifacts are still present after that - it is probably a driver bug
[09:38] <Tchaka> xtknight, ok I will see that
[09:38] <Azul> xtknight, lossless formats take up huge disk space
[09:38] <Flannel> mena: er... through the network, right?
[09:38] <mena> Flannel, Normaly
[09:38] <Colossus> Jowi: yeah, they are. So it's a driver bug?
[09:38] <mena> Flannel, yes
[09:38] <Flannel> !samba | mena
[09:38] <ubotu> mena: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:38] <yazid> that KVM project confuses me... *para*virtualization yet it runs windows?!
[09:38] <pollywog> I just noticed that 'apt-get source' cannot be executed except by root... can I fix that?
[09:39] <Jowi> Colossus, did you restart X?
[09:39] <wick2o> sudo apt-get source
[09:39] <Colossus> Jowi: yep.
[09:39] <TGPO> pollywag you dont
[09:39] <xtknight> who knows...kvm looks pretty sweet though
[09:39] <xtknight> i have one of those new conroes with VT ;)
[09:39] <mena> Flannel, okay but if i share it with ext3 do will others see it and they have a Xp OS
[09:39] <Colossus> Jowi: the video card is "ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M4 AGP" according to $(lspci)
[09:39] <Jowi> Colossus, probably a bug. try the vesa driver to see if it's the same with that one
[09:39] <lgc>  Hi! Will someone help me with this problem: "scp <path>/<file>: Read-only filel system"? There is plenty of space, I do have permissions and the filesystem is reiserfs "rw". Any ideas? Thanks.
[09:39] <pollywog> wick2o: yeah but can I change the behavior so I do not need to sudo?
[09:39] <Azul> pollywog, you should install packages only as root
[09:39] <Flannel> air0day: there might be a config file somewhere, check ~/.syph...whatever it is (that may be a folder, or a single file).  However, mail clients SHOULD store all your mail in ~/Maildir/
[09:39] <Tchaka> xtknight, I want listen to my asf files with another prog that mplayer (with xmms for example)
[09:39] <xtknight> isn't it supposed to let you switch between OSes without a host virtualization program or something?
[09:39] <wick2o> pollywog: you can give root a password
[09:39] <pollywog> Azul: I am trying to get source packages only
[09:39] <wick2o> or sudo su root
[09:40] <salman> so how do i use e2fsck
[09:40] <pollywog> wick2o: I have done that
[09:40] <air0day> im looking in config, and everything is relative to #mh, which i assume stands for mail home
[09:40] <xtknight> Tchaka: xmms may have a windows media audio plugin
[09:40] <Flannel> wick2o: no, please don't recommend people enable their root accounts
[09:40] <Colossus> Jowi: ah! That did it, though now theres a good two inch border of unused screen space.
[09:40] <air0day> and i can't find any place to redefine #mh
[09:40] <StraightShootin1> whats the difference between su and sudo?
[09:40] <mena> Flannel, in any way i wil lsee it and try thnaks
[09:40] <xtknight> Tchaka: videolan also plays asf fine, and xine and probably Totem
[09:40] <Azul> pollywog, what will the problem be when you get them with sudo apt-get?
[09:40] <Flannel> pollywog, wick2o, you use sudo, "sudo [command] ", in this case sudo apt-get yadd yadda
[09:40] <pollywog> I was quite surprised to find that when Ubuntu is installed, root is disabled as in Linspire
[09:40] <Flannel> !rootsudo | pollywog
[09:40] <ubotu> pollywog: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:40] <wick2o> Flannel: I didnt recommend it, i just said it was an option
[09:40] <Colossus> StraightShootin1: sudo works for one command, e.g. $(sudo foo); su works by changing your user and has to be gotten out of by $(exit)
[09:40] <yosyp> anyone here working with 1440x900 resolution?
[09:40] <yosyp> i can't seem to set mine
[09:40] <pollywog> I know about sudo
[09:40] <CheshireViking> azul: are you still looking for arabic help, saw a request a few minutes ago, there's #ubuntu-sa if that helps
[09:41] <adon> arron: just a moment I'll take another look
[09:41] <pollywog> I have used Debian for years  :)
[09:41] <Flannel> wick2o: well, a better option to recommend next time is `sudo -i`
[09:41] <xtknight> does disk druid (dd) have a progress function?  or is that too sophisticated for such an old school app ;)
[09:41] <pollywog> I am NEW to Ubuntu
[09:41] <Colossus> StraightShootin1: $(sudo -s) is something like $(su -), except that $(su) requires the user of the password you're switching to.
[09:41] <Flannel> pollywog: that page explains why we've disabled the root acount
[09:41] <Tchaka> xtknight, I didn't know it exists a plugin for xmms
[09:41] <pollywog> Flannel: thanks
[09:41] <Flannel> !sudo | StraightShootin1
[09:41] <ubotu> StraightShootin1: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:41] <wick2o> anyone using ifplugd?
[09:41] <yazid> xtknight, dd != disk druid in common lingo....
[09:41] <Azul> CheshireViking, thanks mate.. not looking for help, but a community.. though there is no one but me in that room :P
[09:42] <xtknight> i don't even know what a druid is
[09:42] <pollywog> Flannel: I was surprised, that's all.  It is the same thing Linspire does, disable root
[09:42] <Colossus> xtknight: they talk to trees. Priestesses or something.
[09:42] <CheshireViking> Azul: ok, no probs
[09:42] <Flannel> pollywog: that's because it's more secure
[09:42] <Jowi> !bug | Colossus
[09:42] <ubotu> Colossus: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[09:42] <xtknight> sounds like world of warcraft
[09:42] <air0day> theres nothing in any config file that stands out. all paths are relative to #mh, which i can't seem to find the definition of
[09:42] <pollywog> Flannel: but Debian allows any user to get source packages
[09:42] <Colossus> Jowi: er, that's a bug?
[09:42] <pollywog> then you use fakeroot to build them
[09:43] <Jowi> Colossus, that you get a bad picture on a Rage card? I would say so.
[09:43] <wick2o> pollywog: if you want to use debain why are you using ubuntu?
[09:43] <pollywog> this is just different, that's all
[09:43] <air0day> is there some kind of standard dir for mail?
[09:43] <jc-denton> hey
[09:43] <Azul> pollywog, don't expect ubuntu to work like debian, they are still two different operating systems
[09:43] <air0day> in linux or ubuntu in general?
[09:43] <Flannel> air0day: ~/Maildir/
[09:43] <jc-denton> can anybody help me with my fucked up apt-get
[09:43] <jc-denton> ?
[09:43] <air0day> and if i wanted to redefine that, where would I go?
[09:43] <lgc>  Hi! Will someone help me with this problem: "scp <path>/<file>: Read-only filel system"? There is plenty of space, I do have permissions and the filesystem is reiserfs "rw". Any ideas? Thanks.
[09:43] <pollywog> wick2o: I knew that was coming... Ubuntu is what works best on this machine  :)
[09:43] <kitche> !lanugage|jc-denton
[09:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lanugage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:43] <Flannel> air0day: or sometimes ~/.mail/
[09:43] <kitche> !language
[09:43] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:43] <pollywog> Ubuntu detects all the hardware
[09:43] <Jowi> Colossus, you are using the native resolution for the monitor, right?
[09:44] <pollywog> :)
[09:44] <Azul> zenwalk, vectorlinux, slax are what they are, they are not slackware
[09:44] <xtknight> well dd if and of= is taking a loong time.  it is just a 700M cd i dont think it should be taking this long.
[09:44] <air0day> is that stored anywhere like in a config file, or are all mail programs exepected to hard code to it?
[09:44] <Flannel> air0day: you'd have to configure all the mail stuff, postfix, mail client, etc.
[09:44] <Colossus> Jowi: I'm not certain.
[09:44] <Azul> same goes for debian and it's distors
[09:44] <Rookie-1> scp - Secure CoPy ?
[09:44] <xtknight> is there any way to know how many of the bits in the ISO file are set?  i assume it allocates the whole iso as zeroes and so the iso is already like 700M
[09:44] <salman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1451/
[09:44] <salman> anyone?
[09:44] <Colossus> Rookie-1: Yes.
[09:44] <wick2o> ummm anyone have a better solution then ifplugd? seems to not work in drake
[09:44] <air0day> flannel: okay, well its storing everything in home, and it's driving me crazy. theres no setting anywhere I can find, do you have any suggestions?
[09:44] <jc-denton> kitche: look
[09:44] <Hansin321> What do the "backports" repositories hold (e.g. "dapper-backports"?  thanks?
[09:44] <jc-denton> apt-get does not work
[09:44] <pollywog> I must adapt, that's all :)
[09:44] <lgc>  Hi! Will someone help me with this problem: "scp <path>/<file>: Read-only filel system"? There is plenty of space, I do have permissions and the filesystem is reiserfs "rw". Any ideas? Thanks.
[09:44] <wick2o> all it seems to do is been when i plug/unplug my network cable
[09:45] <Flannel> xtknight: no, it just allocates the whole ISO, then sets the bits (either 1 or 0) as it goes
[09:45] <jc-denton> but thx to debians unconsitency we have aptitude
[09:45] <jc-denton> it just also does not work
[09:45] <Flannel> !repeat | lgc
[09:45] <ubotu> lgc: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:45] <kitche> jc-denton: sorry but not work doesn't really help
[09:45] <jc-denton> and it seems that nobody wants to help me
[09:45] <pollywog> aptitude does not work?
[09:45] <jc-denton> do u want the strace of it
[09:45] <kitche> Hansin321: it has updated software and such
[09:45] <xtknight> Flannel: never mind, it finished.  anyway i was asking how i could check how many were bits were set so i could get an idea of progress
[09:45] <pollywog> I did not use it much I like apt
[09:45] <Flannel> xtknight: no, there's no method of doing that.
[09:45] <Jowi> Colossus, http://www.nabble.com/Dell-inspiron-8000,-Ubuntu-6.10-problems-t2564330.html
[09:45] <jc-denton> pollywog: when i do apt-get update it stops at a certain point
[09:45] <jc-denton> aptitude does the same
[09:46] <Flannel> jc-denton: where?  what error do you get?
[09:46] <jc-denton> apt-cache search also gets stuck
[09:46] <lgc> Flannel, thant seems the only way of getting some attention, alas not of the right kind.
[09:46] <pollywog> jc-denton: maybe you need to change the mirrors in sources.list
[09:46] <Azul> you probably have a problem with your package manager
[09:46] <mnoir> lgc: your question is going to be easier to answer if you provide the exact and complete command you tried
[09:46] <Jowi> Colossus, see the first two paragraphs. seems to be the same as you have
[09:46] <Flannel> lgc: read the first sentence, mostly the second part.  People do read it.
[09:46] <StraightShootin1> i use the heck out of sudo... i'm just not familiar with su and the differences between.... I use gksudo a lot too
[09:46] <jc-denton> no
[09:46] <jc-denton> then it would give an error
[09:47] <jc-denton> also it's after checking the mirros
[09:47] <pollywog> I know that apt would do that in Debian but I changed the mirrors and then apt did its job
[09:47] <pollywog> oic
[09:47] <lgc> mnoir, "scp file remote-host:
[09:47] <Flannel> jc-denton: pastebin your sources.list please, and what errors do you get?
[09:47] <pollywog> jc-denton: apt-get check ?
[09:47] <Azul> StraightShootin1, sudo allows you to excute one command as root, whereas su will give you a root shell where you can type as many commands as you want
[09:47] <xtknight> a 64-bit KVM debian pkg contains a KVM that can execute either 32 bit or 64 bit OSes, right?
[09:47] <jc-denton> http://rafb.net/p/DM7ijl69.html
[09:48] <jc-denton> root@nx7010:~# apt-get check
[09:48] <jc-denton> Reading package lists... 6%
[09:48] <jc-denton> then it's stuck
[09:48] <Flannel> Azul, StraightShootin1, 'sudo -i' does the same thing, without the problems of root.   Please use that.
[09:48] <Colossus> Jowi: looks like it at first, but I don't have the "I/O error" thing
[09:48] <air0day> Okay.. let me ask a different question? Where do I go to ask the sylpheed folks this question, because nobody in here seems to ever know?
[09:48] <Flannel> jc-denton: please pastebin your sources.list
[09:48] <Jowi> Colossus, yeah, that's a crashed HDD :)
[09:48] <linuxnewbie756> i want to know how to create a menu item for dvd decrypter, (/home/matt/.wine/~~~dvddecrypter.exe)
[09:48] <Colossus> Jowi: Ah! Okay.
[09:48] <pollywog> BTW I like Ubuntu, Debian could learn a few things, but I just wish I could get rt2500 to work :)
[09:48] <linuxnewbie756> how can i do that so it is opened with wine?
[09:48] <Dave-Ubuntu> mike / mnoir - TY - i now have the drives formatted / auto mounted and accessible - ty!
[09:48] <Colossus> Jowi: Aside from being kind of weirdly small, it's working fine now. But the huge border is really bugging me.
[09:48] <Flannel> air0day: try #sylpheed
[09:49] <mnoir> :)
[09:49] <Colossus> Jowi: I might just cycle through the possible drivers. Is there a r128 driver on Ubuntu?
[09:49] <air0day> nobody in it responds
[09:49] <deepbluegene> !grub
[09:49] <air0day> where else
[09:49] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:49] <StraightShootin1> whenever I need to do a lot of root things, I either use     "gksudo nautilus" or   "sudo gnome-terminal"    In any good OS there are 4 or 5 ways to do everything
[09:49] <pollywog> I have not used Sylpheed in a long time, since I moved to IMAP
[09:49] <jc-denton> Flannel: why should this be relate to my source list?
[09:49] <kitche> pollywog: debian is for more advance users but anyways debian looks like it's dieing
[09:49] <lgc> mnoir, "scp file remote-host", I mean.
[09:49] <Jowi> Colossus, they all use the stock ati driver as far as I know
[09:49] <Flannel> jc-denton: er, because that's what it's doing when it stops?
[09:49] <bboy> need help
[09:49] <pollywog> ketche: Yes it has internal problems and that is another reason I might switch my other machines to Ubuntu
[09:49] <Flannel> !ask | bboy
[09:49] <ubotu> bboy: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:49] <bboy> alguem fala portugues
[09:49] <Azul> excuting sudo gnome-terminal is kinda lame
[09:49] <jc-denton> http://rafb.net/p/BEFu3r15.html
[09:50] <Flannel> !pt | bboy
[09:50] <ubotu> bboy: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[09:50] <Jowi> Colossus, apt-cache show xserver-xorg-driver-ati should answer that (haven't checked)
[09:50] <air0day> I'm no longer looking for sylpheed help, I just want to know where else to go to get it.
[09:50] <nwf_> how can i send my gnome menu to bottom ?
[09:50] <Azul> su will do the trick
[09:50] <Dave-Ubuntu> i just need to find out how to share the dives accross the network to my windows machine - as sharing through SMB throws up a user and pass on windows - and the LINUX user and pass isnt being accepted
[09:50] <jc-denton> as u can see i only have offical sources
[09:50] <mnoir> lgc: no I meant the exact, literal, cut and paste it command, not your impression of a generic syntax
[09:50] <bboy> how can i install my modem adsl ice data 500
[09:50] <Flannel> Dave-Ubuntu: you have to setup samba users/passwords
[09:50] <pollywog> I think Debian is caring users away, esp newbies, with their RTFM and the like
[09:50] <Flannel> !samba | Dave-Ubuntu, instructions here.
[09:50] <ubotu> Dave-Ubuntu, instructions here.: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:50] <nwf_> sometimes it appears in front of menus list
[09:50] <Flannel> Azul: please stop recommending the use of su
[09:50] <linuxnewbie756> how can you create a shortcut in the menu so something is opened with wine?
[09:50] <pollywog> scaring*
[09:51] <Azul> Flannel, it's a tool, if you don't wanna use it, don't
[09:51] <Dave-Ubuntu> cheers Flannel
[09:51] <yazid> so. either i can chat the night away, or go drinking. I guess I will go for the second option.
[09:51] <bboy> how can i install my modem adsl ice data 500 ?
[09:51] <salman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1451/
[09:51] <lgc> mnoir, "scp madelung.c xitle.fciencias.unam.mx:~lgc" which won't mean much to you, I gather. That's why I used "my impression of a generic syntax"
[09:51] <wenko_> hey there. I dont have DHCP running on my network, can anyone tell me how to specify a DNS server... i just want my computer to know where it can look up records
[09:51] <Flannel> Azul: no.  It's not the tool ubuntu uses.  You're creating headaches for users who otherwise wouldn't know any better.  Please stop recommending it here.
[09:51] <jc-denton> Flannel: so any suggestions
[09:51] <jc-denton> ?
[09:51] <air0day> infuriating.
[09:52] <alexcamilo> does anyone know where i can find the grub.conf file in 6.10? its not in /boot/grub/
[09:52] <Colossus> Jowi: well, "vesa" works better than "ati"
[09:52] <pollywog> jc-denton: you have lots of URI's in your source.list?
[09:52] <Flannel> alexcamilo: it's menu.lst, not grub.conf
[09:52] <kitche> alexcamilo: there is no such file as grub.conf it's menu.lst and it's in /boot/grub
[09:52] <alexcamilo> oh
[09:52] <bboy> #ubuntu-pt
[09:52] <alexcamilo> someone told me it was grub.conf. lol
[09:52] <alexcamilo> oh whell
[09:52] <jc-denton> pollywog: ?
[09:52] <jc-denton> and
[09:52] <Jowi> wenko_, run "sudo network-admin" and click on the DNS tab
[09:53] <Flannel> jc-denton: sources.list looks fine.  um, what are the perms on the stuff in /var/cache/apt/?
[09:53] <pollywog> jc-denton: sometimes you need to change a setting in apt.conf to accommodate more URI's
[09:53] <jc-denton> i didn't change anything
[09:53] <threeonefour> so who wants to help me modify grub
[09:53] <xtknight> duuude
[09:53] <jc-denton> Flannel: and in this case i should see it in the strace
[09:53] <pollywog> k then that should not be the problem
[09:53] <phiqtion> !beryl
[09:53] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[09:53] <xtknight> KVM screams!
[09:53] <jc-denton> pollywog: i did not add or remove anything recently
[09:53] <Jowi> alexcamilo, you're probably looking for /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:54] <alexcamilo> ya, i found it. thanx. sorry for the trouble
[09:54] <jc-denton> Flannel: drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2007-01-13 21:53 /var/cache/apt/
[09:54] <pollywog> jc-denton: try going to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive and adding a couple of mirrors from that page
[09:54] <Jowi> no trouble alexcamilo
[09:54] <threeonefour> Jowi, can i get your help modifying my grub
[09:54] <pollywog> comment out the ones you are using
[09:54] <sonick> hi
[09:54] <Jowi> threeonefour, depends on what you want to do with it ;)
[09:54] <sonick> is it possible to remove evolution, WITHOUT removing gnome ?
[09:54] <mnoir> lgc: of course it means something to me.  it means that you have not provided a target file name.  I believe that scp requires a literal target file name. try "scp madelung.c user@xitle.fciencias.unam.mx:filename" replacing filename with a name of choice and uuser with your username.  I use scp often and do not find it as intelligent about filling in the assumptions like cp is :)
[09:55] <threeonefour> Jowi, i need to add an entry so i can boot my other os
[09:55] <pollywog> jc-denton: I think maybe there is an extraneous character in the file you are using
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> sonick,  let me guess it says it will remove 'gnome-desktop' ? or 'ubuntu-desktop' ?
[09:55] <Glench> Anybody feeling generous enough to help me with wireless issues? :(
[09:55] <salman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1451/
[09:55] <Flannel> sonick: of course.  You'll be forced to remove a meta package, but that's no big deal
[09:55] <Jowi> threeonefour, what type of OS is that other OS?
[09:55] <sonick> Dr_Willis, you're right
[09:55] <jc-denton> pollywog: in whcih file?
[09:55] <StraightShootin1> glench... whats up?
[09:55] <xtknight> Glench: ive been feeling too good today.  i need my share of pain ...so i will try :D
[09:55] <lgc> mnoir, that's the default behaviour, but let me try it so...
[09:55] <pollywog> jc-denton in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:55] <Glench> heh
[09:55] <sonick> Flannel, but I don't want to breack my ubuntu !
[09:55] <jc-denton> no
[09:55] <jc-denton> it worked before
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> sonick,  Flannel  is correct.. it just removes the 'meta package'  not the desktop
[09:56] <jc-denton> and i did not edit it
[09:56] <threeonefour> Jowi, linux man  i don't like to talk about M$    i had a bad experiance
[09:56] <lgc> mnoir, no luck!
[09:56] <pollywog> or just backup the file and make a new one with a couple of the mirrors for your location
[09:56] <mnoir> lgc: !!! - same error?
[09:56] <pollywog> then just add more mirrors as needed
[09:56] <xtknight> sonick: sudo dpkg --purge evolution
[09:56] <Glench> ok, I have a Dell Truemobile 1180 wireless adapter (usb). I think ubuntu recognizes it, but I can't get it to work. Even installing ndiswrapper failed, though I followed the instructions to the T.
[09:56] <sonick> Flannel, through removing a meta packacge like ubuntu-desktop, I cannot update to a new version of ubuntu (next edgy) isnt it ?
[09:57] <StraightShootin1> glench  installing it failed? howso?
[09:57] <pollywog> jc-denton: I just found today that my default list contained UK mirrors and that was causing slowness
[09:57] <Jowi> threeonefour, sure. 1st of all, find out which HDD and partition it resides on. then check where and the name of the kernel you wish to boot. get back to me when you're set
[09:57] <StraightShootin1> ndiswrapper that is
[09:57] <Flannel> sonick: correct, you'll need to reinstall the meta package ebfore upgrades (actually, update-manager will do it for you)
[09:57] <jc-denton> pollywog: apt-get check
[09:57] <xtknight> Glench: do you know if the kernel has support for that adapter?
[09:57] <jc-denton> then it's stuck too
[09:57] <pollywog> I changed the "gb" occurences to US
[09:57] <pollywog> us
[09:57] <jc-denton> and it does not contact the mirror afaik
[09:57] <jc-denton> i mean apt-get check does not
[09:57] <sonick> Flannel, ok so I can do it without any risk ?
[09:57] <Glench> xtknight, prism2 chipset
[09:58] <pollywog> jc-denton: yes I think you have a bad file
[09:58] <Glench> the kernel, I'm fairly sure, doesn't
[09:58] <lgc> mnoir, you bet!
[09:58] <Glench> ndiswrapper failed when I tried to make
[09:58] <Flannel> sonick: correct, you'll just have to remove evolution again after you upgrade
[09:58] <sonick> ok let's go :D
[09:58] <jc-denton> yes but  in /var/apt/cache or so
[09:58] <cortez> automake: glib/Makefile.am: warning: automake does not support libopenobex_glib_la_LDFLAGS being defined conditionally
[09:58] <cortez> glib/Makefile.am:17: invalid unused variable name: `nodist_libopenobex_glib_la_SOURCES'
[09:58] <mnoir> lgc: hmm - did you get the password challenge?
[09:58] <cortez> w00t o_O
[09:58] <threeonefour> Jowi, how do i check the kernel info
[09:58] <Glench> when it tried to go into the kernel directory it threw a bunch of errors
[09:58] <Flannel> jc-denton: try 'sudo apt-get clean'
[09:58] <xtknight> Glench: wlan-ng may
[09:58] <StraightShootin1> glench... don't make, just get it from synaptic
[09:58] <jc-denton> lol
[09:59] <jc-denton> apt-get autoclean solved it
[09:59] <lgc> mnoir, you mean if I had to type the password? Yes.
[09:59] <Glench> StraightShootin1, can't. no connection.
[09:59] <jc-denton> i did not remeber this command
[09:59] <jc-denton> well thanks for help!
[09:59] <StraightShootin1> cant download debs elsewhere?
[09:59] <Jowi> threeonefour, if you know which partition and harddisk your other linux system is installed on - mount it and cd to it. the kernel should be in the /boot directory
[09:59] <xtknight> Glench: or hostAp, more info:  http://wiki.personaltelco.net/index.cgi/WirelessFaq#head-54d1828f095ae79eebb831b3fe91ed24c20ceef0
[09:59] <StraightShootin1> no wired connection?
[09:59] <Glench> wow, I am stupid
[09:59] <salman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1451/
[09:59] <Jowi> threeonefour, the name is probably vmlinuz-something
[09:59] <Glench> StraightShootin1, no
[09:59] <xtknight> Glench: ndiswrapper is strongly discouraged really if there's a kernel module available.  windows emulation = ugh!
[09:59] <varsendaggr> hey i am not able to connect to the internet with my ubuntu.   i have been able to connect for quite some time and i have been having problems since i mooved....    is there some kind of command to test the connection?      the cable i am using is working fine
[10:00] <sonick> ok thanks Flannel and Dr_Willis bye
[10:00] <Dr_Willis> varsendaggr,  you connecting through a router? cable modem? how...
[10:00] <StraightShootin1> but if there isn't a kernel module available... it could be your only hope
[10:00] <xtknight> correct
[10:00] <salman> how can i make ubuntu recognize a ps2hd
[10:00] <xtknight> in which case, use it
[10:00] <yosyp> anyone here working with 1440x900 resolution?
[10:00] <Glench> ok, thanks, guys
[10:00] <xtknight> salman: what's that ? :P
[10:00] <StraightShootin1> glench
[10:00] <Glench> let me just look over these things quickly
[10:00] <minerale> how can I recompile the kernel using apt-source ?
[10:00] <xtknight> yosyp: i have worked with 14x9 before, whats up?
[10:00] <mnoir> lgc: ok i am puzzled - i assume you have write access to your home at  xitle.fciencias.unam.mx - maybe you need to talk to the admin there - does scp work for you on your localhost? it may sound pointless but is worth a try
[10:00] <StraightShootin1> glench make sure you get ndiswrapper-utils and ndisgtk
[10:01] <Flannel> !kernel | minerale
[10:01] <ubotu> minerale: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:01] <salman> http://www.hdloader.net/
[10:01] <pollywog> so if Debian were to go away, could Ubuntu survive on its own?
[10:01] <salman> hard drive for ps2
[10:01] <yosyp> xtknight: how did you manage? mine is all off center
[10:01] <threeonefour> Jowi, yep 2.6.9
[10:01] <Glench> StraightShootin1, the debs, right?
[10:01] <Flannel> pollywog: yes
[10:01] <xtknight> yosyp: what do you mean?  lcd right?
[10:01] <StraightShootin1> glench  yes
[10:01] <varsendaggr> cable modem i think....    i have to change the /etc/resolv   and i have do that.
[10:01] <salman> for windows you need winhiip
[10:01] <minerale> flannel: If I compile my own kernel then the kernel will use my cpu exclusive instructions ,right ?
[10:01] <salman> what do you need for ubuntu?
[10:01] <xtknight> yosyp: scaled/distorted/blurry, black bars, or centered mode?
[10:01] <lgc> mnoir, I have root access to the remote machine (though I'm not the admin).
[10:01] <Jowi> threeonefour, need the name of the partition it is on (for example hda3 or sdb2 or something similar) and the full name of the kernel
[10:01] <yosyp> xtknight: yes... i made it 1440x900 with 915resolution, but when i login is it all moved to the right and top
[10:01] <salman> to recognize the hd that is
[10:01] <Flannel> minerale: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[10:02] <xtknight> yosyp: what model of lcd out of curiosity?  DVI or vga?
[10:02] <pollywog> dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot fails with dpkg-source: failure: create kdenetwork_3.5.5-0ubuntu1.dsc: Permission denied
[10:02] <StraightShootin1> glench  after installing the debs, you can find it under Administration .... Windows Wireless Drivers... you'll need your windows drivers (particularly the .inf)
[10:02] <mnoir> lgc: i need to feed sheep but i am interested in solution - can i pm you to give my email?
[10:02] <pollywog> I can only build packages as root?
[10:02] <yosyp> xtknight: no idea, it's a Samsugn SyncMaster 920BW 19" widescreen
[10:02] <threeonefour> Jowi, go to threeonefour
[10:02] <Flannel> minerale: 6.06? (Dapper) 5.10 (Breezy) 6.10
[10:02] <lgc> mnoir, go ahead.
[10:02] <minerale> flannel: latest stable
[10:02] <xtknight> pollywog: fakeroot
[10:03] <Glench> StraightShootin1, where do I get the debs? I've never had to get them without apt
[10:03] <pollywog> no fakeroot gave me that error
[10:03] <Flannel> minerale: so, edgy? 6.10?  What kernel are you currently using? -i386 or -generic?
[10:03] <pollywog> dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot fails with dpkg-source: failure: create kdenetwork_3.5.5-0ubuntu1.dsc: Permission denied
[10:03] <xtknight> eh i have no idea ive always used sudo, hasnt inconvenienced me that much
[10:03] <StraightShootin1> glench... one moment, i will look.. then you can email the addy to yourself and download with win
[10:03] <minerale> flannel: Linux delta 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 22:28:26 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:03] <yosyp> xtknight: .. ?
[10:03] <Flannel> minerale: your kernel already uses CPU specific optomizations
[10:03] <varsendaggr> sudo is a great way to go
[10:03] <pollywog> Sometimes when you use one Linux, it's kind of tough to switch  ;)
[10:04] <yosyp> xtknight: how did you get your monitor to display right?
[10:04] <xtknight> yosyp: hmm.  press the menu button on ur monitor, find where it states the resolution/refresh rate
[10:04] <minerale> flannel: why /how is that ?
[10:04] <xtknight> yosyp: mine just shows a full picture as expected but my LCD is 1680x1050 so 1440x900 needs to be scaled.  yours is 1440x900 native so it should be a perfect image
[10:04] <joshua__> msg nickserv identify out88
[10:04] <Flannel> minerale: because -generic figures out what you have, and uses it
[10:04] <Admiral_Butterc1> How to i modify my xorg.conf, i need to change the line Driver "nv" to Driver "NVIDIA"
[10:04] <pollywog> Joshua change your password
[10:04] <Flannel> joshua__: might want to change that password
[10:04] <yosyp> 1440x900 55.9kHz 60Hz PP (Analog) xtknight
[10:04] <mnoir> lgc: sent - you get?
[10:05] <xtknight> yosyp: ok you are using analog.  press Auto Adjust on ur lcd
[10:05] <pollywog> and next time identify before joining a channel  :)
[10:05] <xtknight> yosyp: analog/vga are interchangeable terms...theres other analog connections like BNC but for all intents and purposes vga is analog, dvi/hdmi is digital
[10:05] <xtknight> yosyp: with analog connections the lcd has to sync and tune itself.  digital is perfect 100% 1:1 all the time
[10:05] <Glench> StraightShootin1, just pm me when/if you find them
[10:05] <lgc> mnoir, you want me to mail you the solution whenever we find out what is wrong?
[10:05] <yosyp> xtknight: it did the autothing, it's still moved to the right and on the bottom 1/5th is a dark red bar
[10:06] <xtknight> yosyp: dark red? that's odd.
[10:06] <yosyp> yeah
[10:06] <CharonX> Perhaps someone can help me, I have Neverwinter nights setup to run in Ubuntu. But while I am in the game I cannot minimize it and return to the desktop and leave NWN running in the background. Is there a way I can get back to gnome while the game runs in the background ?
[10:06] <yosyp> and it's not there on the login, just when logged on
[10:06] <xtknight> yosyp: the rest of the screen is fine?  and then all of a sudden there's just dark red on the bottom all the way across?
[10:06] <Glench> xtknight, "but USB cards based on
[10:06] <Glench> Prism2.5/3 chipset are not supported in this version.
[10:06] <yosyp> umm, let me take a picture quickly
[10:06] <xtknight> Glench: ohh
[10:06] <Glench> from the aphost documentation
[10:06] <Admiral_Butterc1> CharonX: or you could just stay in them and not go idle
[10:07] <pollywog> CharonX: have you tried nohup or "screen"?
[10:07] <varsendaggr> how can i reconfigure the network?
[10:07] <CharonX> pollywog, Doesnt "screen" only work on the terminal ?
[10:07] <Admiral_Butterc1> How to i modify my xorg.conf?
[10:07] <xtknight> what is nohup exactly?
[10:07] <CharonX> Admiral_Butterc1, Stay in "them" what is them ?
[10:08] <pollywog> CharonX: can you start the game in a term?
[10:08] <Dr_Willis> xtknight,  keeps a program from dieing in the background when you logoff.
[10:08] <Admiral_Butterc1> CharonX: i meant game
[10:08] <Admiral_Butterc1> to stay in the game
[10:08] <joshua__> oops thx pollywog, Flannel
[10:08] <Admiral_Butterc1> I dont see why you want to minimize in a game so badly
[10:08] <Flannel> CharonX: that'd be a NWN specific thing, gnome doesn't mind minimizing things and kepeing them running
[10:08] <xtknight> is there any hope for 3d acceleration thru intel VT/AMD-V via KVM?
[10:08] <CharonX> Admiral_Butterc1, So I can read the forums etc.. for the server I am playing on
[10:08] <xtknight> how does the hardware appear to the guest OS under paravirtualization?
[10:08] <pollywog> joshua__: good thing you realized what happened
[10:09] <xtknight> and lastly, what's the difference between paravirtualizing the Windows OS and regular-virtualizing the Windows OS
[10:09] <CharonX> pollywog, I can start it from a gnome terminal
[10:09] <pollywog> CharonX: or you can just go to a different VC and leave the game running
[10:09] <joshua__> pollywog: how do I go about changing passwords with nickserv ?
[10:09] <xtknight> joshua__: /msg nickserv help set
[10:09] <yosyp> xtknight:
[10:09] <pollywog> joshua__: /msg nickserv help
[10:10] <yosyp> err
[10:10] <yosyp> xtknight: http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6382/dscn5795nl2.jpg
[10:10] <StraightShootin1> glench..  i found ndiswrapper-utils at http://www.las.ic.unicamp.br/pub/biglinux/binary-i386/
[10:10] <CharonX> pollywog, VC ? Do you mean having many gnome sessions like having many tty terminals ?
[10:10] <pollywog> CharonX: yes something like that
[10:10] <xtknight> yosyp: hmm?
[10:10] <CharonX> pollywog, Do you know where I would find out more about that ?
[10:10] <Glench> thanks, StraightShootin1
[10:10] <pollywog> either a second gnome session or just a console
[10:10] <yosyp> xtknight: see the left side is dark and the bottom it dark red?
[10:10] <xtknight> yosyp: ahh ya i see what ya mean
[10:11] <phiqtion_> how can i remove the mounted icons from the desktop??
[10:11] <cypruser> What's the command to display information about the RAM?
[10:11] <pollywog> CharonX: try Google linux and search "multiple sessions"
[10:11] <xtknight> yosyp: looks like the dark red may be a desktop background scaling problem.  look at wallpaper options and mess with the scaling
[10:11] <pollywog> meminfo?
[10:11] <rvalles> I had stuff that was executed at the end of the boot process, in /etc/rc.local
[10:11] <xtknight> yosyp: and the left black is another lcd issue that you can probably fix in the options  (VGA adjustment is usually labeled phase/clock, there may be left screen offset also)
[10:11] <rvalles> but for some reason, it isn't anymore
[10:11] <yosyp> xtknight: but if i drag a window under the red thing, it hides
[10:11] <Admiral_Butterc1> When i go to gedit the xorg.conf it wont let me overwrite it, i know there is a way to do this b/c i did it on another computer.
[10:12] <minerale> flannel: i'm looking for something on the web that says -generic figures out the instructions, do you have any sources ?
[10:12] <phiqtion_> how can i remove the mounted icons from the desktop??
[10:12] <pollywog> no I guess that was wrong
[10:12] <rvalles> why is that? how can I make some script be run at the end of the boot process?
[10:12] <xtknight> yosyp: ah hmm.  mess with the aforementioned lcd settings
[10:12] <jrib> !sudo | Admiral_Butterc1
[10:12] <ubotu> Admiral_Butterc1: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:12] <jrib> !icons | phiqtion_
[10:12] <ubotu> phiqtion_: Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[10:12] <Flannel> minerale: what?
[10:12] <facugaich> I'm compfused, what are differences between a "production" enviroment and a "development" one?
[10:12] <anjan> Has anybody gotten WPA to work with Netgear WG111v2 ?
[10:13] <pollywog> a production one uses a stable release
[10:13] <yosyp> xtknight: nothing helps, the v-position is at 0 and that black left side is still there
[10:13] <mbiven> has anyone here gotten httpd.2.2.3 compiled on 6.06 (64-bit)? I keep getting an error during the make
[10:13] <pollywog> and it can also be for development
[10:13] <Admiral_Butterc1> ubotu, thanks!
[10:13] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[10:13] <minerale> flannel: you said that a -generic kernel figures out what cpu extensions to use, I'm looking to verify that claim
[10:14] <jrib> !generic | minerale
[10:14] <ubotu> minerale: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[10:14] <Glench> StraightShootin1, I got ndisgtk, thanks
[10:14] <pollywog> but you would not use a "bleeding edge" system for a server
[10:14] <pollywog> not if you are smart
[10:14] <xtknight> yosyp: hmm.  what other options do you have?
[10:14] <StraightShootin1> glench  wait... get this one for ndisgtk  and let me find you another ndiswrapper http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/n/ndisgtk/ndisgtk_0.5-1ubuntu1_all.deb
[10:14] <yosyp> xtknight: what do you mean?
[10:14] <anjan> Netgear WG111v2 works out of the box with Edgy, but Network Manager shows no WPA. ANyone has a solution?
[10:15] <xtknight> yosyp: phase? clock? coarse? fine? vertical? horizontal? anything related to adjusting vga connection? could you just list em all?
[10:15] <pollywog> anjan: try wlan
[10:15] <pollywog> or rutilt
[10:15] <pollywog> those can do WPA
[10:15] <StraightShootin1> glench... here is ndiswrapper
[10:15] <StraightShootin1> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/n/ndiswrapper-1.1/ndiswrapper-utils_1.1-5_all.deb
[10:15] <pollywog> rutilt can anyway
[10:15] <Glench> StraightShootin1, alright thanks
[10:15] <pollywog> I am not sure about wlan
[10:16] <yosyp> xtknight: coarse fine sharpness h-pos. v-pos. gamma color control color tone magic color brightness contrast auto source image reset color reset RTA
[10:16] <StraightShootin1> i'm not sure that first one would work right... it isn't from ubuntu archive
[10:16] <xtknight> yosyp: mind resetting it and seeing what happens?
[10:16] <mbiven> how about compiling httpd.2.2.3 on a 64-bit version of 6.06? it keeps errorign out during make
[10:17] <xtknight> yosyp: i dont know its worth a try.  something reset clears something you don't even know existed ;)
[10:17] <StraightShootin1> glench  are you on a live disk right now?
[10:17] <Rprp> Well, how can i get java now? The java website is down :(
[10:17] <Flannel> Rprp: java is in the repositories
[10:17] <Flannel> !java | Rprp
[10:17] <ubotu> Rprp: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[10:17] <yosyp> xtknight:  image reset or color reset?
[10:17] <coNP> Rprp: which site? java.com is alive I guess
[10:17] <xtknight> yosyp: probably image but try both....
[10:17] <Glench> StraightShootin1, winxp
[10:17] <anjan> pollywog: I'll do a search about rutilit, thanks
[10:17] <Rprp> Hmm, i will check
[10:17] <Glench> StraightShootin1, can't get any connection on the livecd
[10:18] <StraightShootin1> glench.. .ok.. just burn them to a disk or something... you should be ok
[10:18] <Glench> I just have them on a usb stick
[10:18] <pollywog> anjan it is rutilt
[10:18] <yosyp> xtknight: k, it moved farther to the right/up and the colors are very bright
[10:18] <StraightShootin1> glench once you're up, and online via ubuntu... just try to update the packages with synaptic... they may not be latest
[10:19] <StraightShootin1> and come back in and lemme know if that approach worked
[10:19] <xtknight> yosyp: hm.  well lets fix the image alignment first.  i have a page on calibrating lcds if you want that later
[10:19] <yosyp> cool
[10:19] <k010> how do i downgrade a package?
[10:20] <xtknight> yosyp: so adjusting 'coarse' 'fine' 'v-pos' 'h-pos' none of it fixes the problem?
[10:20] <nwf_> how can i remove partitions icons from desktop
[10:20] <Glench> StraightShootin1, have to get online first
[10:20] <xtknight> k010: it can depend on the package.  there are some best practices you should follow for downgrading some things vs. others
[10:20] <Glench> and that might still be a problem :)
[10:20] <StraightShootin1> nwf... i know this one... if I can remember
[10:20] <yosyp> xtknight: nope
[10:20] <k010> dpkg --force-downgrade <package>
[10:20] <xtknight> yosyp: nvidia or ati card?
[10:20] <StraightShootin1> nwf... one way is to mount them somewhere other than /media
[10:21] <yosyp> xtknight: onboard intel
[10:21] <StraightShootin1> i think
[10:21] <xtknight> yosyp: did you specifically install any drivers off intel.com yet or are you using the built-in Xorg ones?
[10:21] <yosyp> xtknight: other than that not sure
[10:21] <StraightShootin1> hey riotkittie
[10:21] <rvalles> I had stuff that was executed at the end of the boot process, in /etc/rc.local ; why is that? how can I make some script be run at the end of the boot process?
[10:21] <yosyp> xtknight: built in xorg ones (Driver "i810")
[10:21] <riotkittie> apology for pending typo -- my laptop kbd is lame
[10:21] <riotkittie> hi StraightShootin1
[10:22] <StraightShootin1> riotkittie... i actually had to use that alt+sysrq+RSEUB thing the other day
[10:22] <mbiven> help with compiling httpd-2.2.3 on 64-bit version of 6.06 anyone? here is the error I get durign make
[10:22] <k010> im trying to downgrade initramfs-tools
[10:22] <xtknight> yosyp: hm.  do you know if there's an intel settings panel?  well whatever the case you may want to try newer official ones from intel.  usually there are settings for lcd output/scaling etc.  i dont know about your issue though.  sure the VGA plug is secure at both ends?  any reason for not using dvi?
[10:22] <riotkittie> StraightShootin1: did it work for ya?
[10:22] <Gumby> any ubuntu users here use fluxbox?  I'm trying to get fluxbox loading applications on start but it refuses to and I cant figure out why.
[10:22] <junk1> hi all ubuntu is installed on the laptop now i need the wireless to work can anyone help sudo said go in here an id get help
[10:22] <mbiven>  error - /usr/bin/ld: /usr/local/lib/libz.a(crc32.o): relocation R_X86_64_32 against `a local symbol' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC
[10:23] <StraightShootin1> well, it worked when mine was locked up (but the numlock light was still workin)  but didn't do anything for my son's hard lockup
[10:23] <xtknight> yosyp: best thing to do would be to grab a dvi cable (itll very likely fix this issue).  a digital connection is always perfect.  sure one didnt come with your Lcd?
[10:23] <anjan> wpa with network manager, anyone?
[10:23] <k010> how do u overwrite a package say klibc-utils with a high version??
[10:23] <yosyp> humm
[10:23] <junk1> can any one help me?
[10:23] <gregg> hello
[10:23] <gregg> I am new to ubuntu
[10:24] <junk1> hi gregg
[10:24] <junk1> me too
[10:24] <StraightShootin1> junk1 what is the wireless card built into it?
[10:24] <gregg> can someone help me with my install of 64 bit ubuntu
[10:24] <gregg> Hi junk1
[10:24] <xtknight> yosyp: oh, does your intel adapter support dvi out though ?  that's another thing to check.  if not you may consider a discrete video card.  if youre not in a situation where getting a new card or cable is possible then i can try and help you get the vga working
[10:24] <mbiven> gregg, thats what I'm doign righ t now, whats the problem?
[10:25] <riotkittie> is there a way to log out of a gnome session and make gnome forget that session from the command line?  alt ctrl <- doesnt do it
[10:25] <junk1> broadcom 4306 802.11b/g i did lspci an it says it
[10:25] <gregg> I can't seem to find my other hard drive on ubuntu hd1a
[10:25] <yosyp> xtknight: yeah the dvi cable (looks like a mac monitor cable, right?) is included, but my card doesn't support it
[10:25] <idefix> !media
[10:25] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[10:25] <xtknight> yosyp: laptop or pc?
[10:25] <tim167> i try to copy a folder from /usr/lib to an external HD, i keep getting errors :"cannot create regular file ...: Invalid argument" and "cannot create symbolic link `...': Operation not permitted. what should I do ? thanks
[10:25] <StraightShootin1> riotkittie... you mean kill x?
[10:25] <mbiven> gregg: are you running raid on it?
[10:25] <idefix> !media-directory
[10:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about media-directory - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:25] <gregg> no i don't believe so
[10:25] <yosyp> xtknight: pc
[10:25] <riotkittie> StraightShootin1: no. not so much killing X .
[10:25] <idefix> can you make the files in the /media directory yourself?
[10:26] <gregg> I want to be able to access my files on this hard drive
[10:26] <xtknight> yosyp: onboard-intels have very low vga bandwidth.  my mom's cant even do 1280x1024 so i would really consider a discrete card with dvi.  they are $50 or less these days
[10:26] <junk1> who asked me my card?
[10:26] <riotkittie> brb. gotta get to a real keybooaard
[10:26] <anjan> Is there any way to get WPA to work with Gnome Network Manager?
[10:26] <gregg> I am dual booting with two different hard drives
[10:26] <Jowi> threeonefour, success?
[10:26] <threeonefour> Jowi, it booted  but then x crashed and i have to reinstall
[10:26] <idefix> what is riotkittie using now then?
[10:26] <xtknight> yosyp: you will also get sharper fonts by getting dvi.  colors may be more accurate
[10:26] <mbiven> gregg: are oyu runnign off o fthe install disc now?
[10:26] <yosyp> xtknight: but on windows it worked without any problems
[10:26] <xtknight> yosyp: oh?
[10:26] <Jowi> threeonefour, that's good. so grub is set up ok.
[10:27] <gregg> no
[10:27] <xtknight> yosyp: ok, i didn't know that.  in that case it's probably the fault of Xorg.  try new intel drivers and see what happens?   post `lspci -vv` to pastebin
[10:27] <yosyp> xtknight: and i somehow manager to get this monitor up to 1600x1200 when it's recommended is 1440x900 (with this same card)
[10:27] <tim167> hello I'm trying to copy a folder from /usr/lib to an external HD, I get errors :"cannot create regular file ...: Invalid argument" and "cannot create symbolic link `...': Operation not permitted. I used sudo cp -r usr/lib/folder/* . what's wrong ?
[10:27] <gregg> I am running on my slave hdb
[10:27] <junk1> <----waiting for wireless card help
[10:27] <StraightShootin1> threeonefour... did x come up at all? or just crash repeatedly?
[10:27] <xtknight> yosyp: odd.  it's probably going into what's called the monitors' 'safe mode'  (it's downscaling)
[10:27] <threeonefour> Jowi, miss burn    ya but how do i get   grub to show the menu  with out have to press esc to get in
[10:27] <Anti-Tedd> Hai. can anyone help me? I've been outta the Ubuntu loop for a while, has anything significant happened since the development of 6.06?
[10:27] <StraightShootin1> junk1  what kind of wireless card is it?
[10:27] <xtknight> yosyp: my old 17" samsung went to 1920x1200
[10:27] <gregg> Also I would like to run Wine on this system but having major trouble understanding how to do this with 64 bit
[10:28] <xtknight> yosyp: lcd too, samsungs have always had great downscaling :O
[10:28] <gregg> Also I don't completely understand how to install things in Linux
[10:28] <junk1> motorola  wn802.11gv2
[10:28] <nwf_> can i change gnome font color to white instead black ?
[10:28] <mbiven> gregg: I think there are some issues wiht running wine ona 64 bit system
[10:28] <Jowi> threeonefour, adjust the timeout
[10:28] <toulouse> ey guys, if i plug a second monitor in, will ubuntu (or my  computer) automatically start putting some output to it?
[10:28] <StraightShootin1> gregg   synaptic is great for installing stuff... and very easy to figure out
[10:28] <DigitalNinja> can someone tell me how to use the "at" command? I can't get it to work
[10:28] <xtknight> wine works fine on 64-bit systems if compiled properly
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> toulouse,  depends on the video card.
[10:28] <xtknight> they even have a wine that can emulate win64
[10:28] <gregg> Yes, they have a way to build it on Wine for 64 bit but I don't know how to do this in Linux
[10:29] <xtknight> but u can do a win32 wine on 64bit system
[10:29] <threeonefour> Jowi, i don't want the time out i just want to load the list
[10:29] <toulouse> ok, i have an nvdia geforce 6500 i think, it has two vga outs and one svideo out
[10:29] <gregg> xt that is right
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> toulouse,  often the cards will default to one monitor/tv out over others on the same card. it depends on the card.
[10:29] <mbiven> since we're talking about 64 bit systems, how abotu compiling httpd 2.2.3 on it, make keeps erroring out on me
[10:29] <gregg> but How
[10:29] <Jowi> tim167, is the harddisk ext3?
[10:29] <toulouse> ok
[10:29] <yosyp> xtknight: pastebin taking forever
[10:29] <gregg> I read the setup but was confused
[10:29] <xtknight> gregg: i went thru this howto and it worked good: http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit
[10:29] <tim167> Jowi: no Fat32
[10:29] <xtknight> yosyp: ok.  `lspci | grep VGA`  and paste it here..should be one line
[10:29] <StraightShootin1> junk1 hold on a moment i'll do some researching
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> toulouse,  if i plug in the tv out and remove the monitors and then boot.. it defaults to the tv (on my 6800)
[10:29] <gregg> xt I read it and tried it but couldnt bet it to work
[10:30] <gregg> any help on this?
[10:30] <mikekk> why firefox does not show me the option to select the filetype when im saving a page  ?? please help
[10:30] <junk1> StraightShootin1 did you get the card?i got
[10:30] <xtknight> gregg: that's not specific enough....where exactly  did you get stuck?
[10:30] <gregg> I don't understand all the commands
[10:30] <Jowi> tim167, so it doesn't support symlinks for example. the errors are normal.
[10:30] <junk1> ok
[10:30] <yosyp> xtknight: 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
[10:30] <toulouse> Dr_Willis: well, im trying to plug in a tv (with vga &/or svideo input) as a second monitor, any tips?
[10:30] <Dr_Willis> mikekk,  what kind of filetype you needing?
[10:30] <gregg> I tried pasting commands in the terminal as stated on wine but I don't know how to install Wine
[10:30] <tim167> Jowi: ok, but then I will lose files in the copy process ?
[10:30] <Dr_Willis> toulouse,  its well documented all over the place. :P using both - check out twinview documentation.
[10:31] <k010> whats the syntax to downgrade initramfs-tools package
[10:31] <StraightShootin1> junk1 are you able to connect ubuntu to the net via wired connection for right now?
[10:31] <junk1> no
[10:31] <k010> anyone please?
[10:31] <gregg> I want to convert to Linux, but what a change of mind in this OS
[10:31] <junk1> im at a cyber cafe
[10:31] <xtknight> gregg: change for the better ;)
[10:31] <Jowi> tim167, if you want to create a backup use tar or something similar to create an archive that you then copy to the external disk
[10:31] <junk1> i need the card to work then i can
[10:31] <junk1> lol
[10:31] <xtknight> gregg: what do you mean by install wine?  were you able to complete the HOWTO?
[10:31] <StraightShootin1> junk1... ok, i take it you're on windows right now?
[10:31] <Dr_Willis> 'learn to crawl, then walk, then run, then fly!'
[10:31] <gregg> yes I think it will be
[10:31] <junk1> no
[10:31] <gregg> Howto?  Where
[10:31] <Colossus> Dr_Willis: when do you learn to fall?
[10:31] <tim167> Jowi: good idea, why didn't I think of that :)
[10:32] <xtknight> gregg: lots of these HOWTOs do have prerequisites so i wont hide that from you...
[10:32] <Anti-Tedd> Hai. can anyone help me? I've been outta the Ubuntu loop for a while, has anything significant happened since the development of 6.06?
[10:32] <Colossus> Dr_Willis: shortly after the flying?
[10:32] <gregg> on Ubuntu or Wine
[10:32] <Jowi> tim167, yes. you will lose files if you do a direct copy to a fat32 disk
[10:32] <StraightShootin1> you're not on the pc in question?
[10:32] <xtknight> gregg: i mean the howto' wine on 64-bit' article.
[10:32] <junk1> im on a cayber cafe computer
[10:32] <arrenlex> Anti-Tedd: 6.10 happened.
[10:32] <Dr_Willis> Colossus,  then you go too close to the sun and die a nasty death.... but thats next week
[10:32] <junk1> no
[10:32] <Anti-Tedd> arrenlex, that's it?
[10:32] <gregg> i read it and did the process but didn't know what to do
[10:32] <xtknight> yosyp: ah you have the 845G graphics chipset.
[10:32] <StraightShootin1> junk1 can you download and save files to move to your computer?
[10:32] <gregg> xt:
[10:32] <gregg> have you used wine on 64 bit
[10:32] <xtknight> yosyp: see if you can find drivers for that on intel's site.  intel is decent with linux when it comes to gfx drivers.
[10:32] <junk1> no
[10:32] <yosyp> xtknight: so should i use i845G instead of i810 ?
[10:33] <CarlFK> "apt-get source foo" creates a dir.  if it is in a script, how can I cd into the dir?
[10:33] <StraightShootin1> junk1 there's not much i can do then at this point
[10:33] <junk1> thay locked this thing no d/l's at all
[10:33] <xtknight> gregg: uh, yes i have before.  last night i tried i had some trouble but i believe it is unrelated to Wine.  it was something in ...oh dont mind it, it was my problem ;)
[10:33] <xtknight> gregg: i had a custom kernel (i mess with linux too much sometimes) and it didnt like wine.  but wine should work fine on normal setups
[10:33] <mikekk> Dr_willis  : html with images ,  text file. it shows only  the box for the filename, not the box to select the type of the file.
[10:34] <xtknight> yosyp: uh yes if theres a driver called i845g
[10:34] <xtknight> yosyp: i dont think there is in Xorg
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> mikekk,  ive always just put in a name and hit save... and it saved them as a dir/html/files i recall...
[10:34] <Jowi> yosyp, no. you use the i810 driver for that card
[10:34] <gregg> any suggestions
[10:34] <xtknight> yosyp: you need to look at intel.com and select that card with an OS of linux and see what comes up for drivers.
[10:34] <junk1> straightshooter1 i was told go here--->http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[10:34] <exelan> Hey all
[10:34] <exelan> .. :D
[10:34] <StraightShootin1> junk1  find some way of saving files or else, paste these addresses to an email to yourself and get them later     http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/n/ndiswrapper-1.1/ndiswrapper-utils_1.1-5_all.deb        http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/n/ndisgtk/ndisgtk_0.6-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[10:34] <junk1> but i dont get it
[10:34] <yosyp> Jowi: ... ?
[10:34] <xtknight> gregg: i need to know if you completed the article on that page though?
[10:35] <Jowi> yosyp, you enable other resolutions for it by installing the 915resolution package
[10:35] <tiolpxe> hi does ubuntu 6.10 support wireless with wpa encryption?
[10:35] <StraightShootin1> junk1, ndiswrapper is a utility for using windows wireless card drivers in linux
[10:35] <Jowi> !915resolution
[10:35] <ubotu> 915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 14 kB, installed size 128 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[10:35] <gregg> Let me look at the article again
[10:35] <gregg> I will get back to you
[10:35] <StraightShootin1> !ndiswrapper
[10:35] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:35] <mikekk> Dr_Willis : Thanks
[10:35] <xtknight> thanks Jowi....  yosyp you can give that utility a shot before trying new drivers
[10:35] <junk1> i got the drivers i got the cd the card came with
[10:35] <yosyp> Jowi: I have, that's how it works, but it is off center
[10:35] <junk1> does that help any?
[10:35] <Jowi> yosyp, what kind of monitor are you using?
[10:35] <toulouse> !twinview
[10:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twinview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <StraightShootin1> junk1 but you still need to download and install the ndiswrapper debs in ubuntu
[10:36] <Dr_Willis> mikekk,  i do notice what you are talking about on this windows box.. cant say that ive EVER seen that on the linux versions of firefox
[10:36] <yosyp> Jowi: Samsung SyncMaster 920BW
[10:36] <junk1> that i dont have
[10:36] <junk1> ugh
[10:36] <xtknight> what is the "kfreebsd-amd64" architecutre?
[10:36] <Jowi> yosyp, is that a CRT or LCD?
[10:36] <riotkittie> I'm on a laptop - for the most part, i'm wired, plugged into the wall, using an external keyboard and CRT...  if i shutdown without ending my X session, unplug everything... and pop my wireless card in, i cannot fully load GNOME when i boot up and log back in - i get as far as panels partially loading. no desktop, no menus, ect.
[10:36] <xtknight> confused
[10:36] <yosyp> Jowi: LCD
[10:36] <Jowi> yosyp, ok. what resolution do you want and at which refresh rate?
[10:36] <exelan> Hey, anyone have an ATI x1900xtx???
[10:37] <xtknight> !anyone | exelan
[10:37] <ubotu> exelan: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:37] <StraightShootin1> junk1 find a friend or someone else with a pc of their own there... they are small files  perhaps you could bribe them with a cappuccino
[10:37] <junk1> lol
[10:37] <ucordes> i can not switch to tty's and i can't restart x. my system freezes into a strange purple screen when i try to. anybody knows this problem?
[10:37] <xtknight> 1440x900 @ 60Hz is the native resolution of the Samsung 920BW
[10:37] <exelan> ...
[10:37] <StraightShootin1> junk1 maybe make a friend while you're at it
[10:37] <junk1> is it small enough to go in a floppy?
[10:37] <yosyp> Jowi: 1440x900 60Hz
[10:37] <exelan> o-k
[10:37] <StraightShootin1> junk1 hold on... will check file sizes
[10:37] <junk1> k
[10:38] <Jowi> yosyp, xtknight: ok. yosyp poste your xorg.conf to the pastebin please and I set it up for you
[10:38] <exelan> um, can I get some help with my ATI card... I'm new obviously.
[10:38] <gregg> xt
[10:38] <yosyp> Jowi:  thanks
[10:38] <DigitalNinja> has anyone ever used the "at" command?
[10:38] <Zaggynl> Can I make a playable DVD with nautilus-cd-burner?
[10:38] <adon> exelan: what is the problem?
[10:38] <gregg> xtknight:
[10:38] <StraightShootin1> junk1 yeah... 8.9k and 13k
[10:38] <xtknight> yea?
[10:38] <anjan> is it true that wps for wifi is not available with the GUI?
[10:38] <junk1> ok
[10:38] <StraightShootin1> very small
[10:38] <gregg> I understand the sudo apt-get stuff on the terminal
[10:39] <tim167> Jowi: can I tar directy on the Fat32 disk ?
[10:39] <junk1> give me a few to go get the floppy brb 1 min
[10:39] <Syntax_Error> where can i access my smb mounts?
[10:39] <yosyp> Jowi: http://rafb.net/p/hCYPTi41.html
[10:39] <anjan> is it true that wpa for wifi is not available with the GUI?
[10:39] <Jowi> tim167, no idea :)
[10:39] <xtknight> gregg: ok, what commands gave you problems?
[10:39] <gregg> but I am confused about configure, make, etc
[10:39] <xtknight> gregg: confused, do you mean you are just scared to try it?  never be scared ;P
[10:39] <tim167> Jowi: I'm doing it as we speak, but I dont want to trash my HD ...
[10:39] <gregg> no not scared
[10:39] <exelan> I downloaded the new ATI drivers from the site and (I guess) installed them manually.. but I get a Mesa project when I do fglrxinfo
[10:39] <gregg> how do I configure
[10:39] <tim167> Jowi: seems to work
[10:40] <bp2626> where and how can I disable the shift+backspace kill X shortcut, I always accidently hit it when coding and its really starting to get annoying
[10:40] <xtknight> gregg: it tells you on the page after the sentence `Run configure, build and install with:`
[10:40] <xtknight> gregg: everything is there
[10:40] <minerale> I just added a repository, how can I `explore` what's in it ?
[10:40] <gregg> do I do this on the terminal
[10:40] <xtknight> gregg: yea
[10:40] <tim167> how do I unmount a HD from the terminal ?
[10:40] <gregg> Do I just copy the commands in
[10:40] <xtknight> gregg: this command is the 'configure' part.  LDFLAGS="-L/lib32 -L/usr/lib32 -Wl,-rpath,/lib32 -Wl,-rpath,/usr/lib32" ./configure     it tellls you
[10:40] <xtknight> gregg: yea
[10:40] <speyer> hi all
[10:41] <adon> exelan: have you read the how to?
[10:41] <gregg> okay I did this
[10:41] <xtknight> tim167: sudo umount /dev/hdXy or sudo umount /dev/sdXy   where X is the node and y is the partition
[10:41] <speyer> what the command to move a directory with all his contents ?
[10:41] <joshua__> hey folks, I just plugged in an external dvd drive (usb) dmesg sees it as far as I can tell, but I would like to check if the drive will play dvds or not... help?
[10:41] <xiq_> bp2626: man xorg.conf, search for DontZap
[10:41] <exelan> yep, I followed the instructions but I was thinking that it might be a problem since I'm using Feisty..??
[10:41] <gregg> xtknight:  will you work through the process with me
[10:41] <xtknight> speyer: mv SourceDir TargetDir    it should move everything if i remember correctly
[10:41] <xtknight> gregg: no problem
[10:41] <exelan> I dont know :(
[10:41] <sneakums> bp2626: check out the "serverflags" section of the xorg.conf man page, the option you need to enable is "dontzap"
[10:42] <gregg> I have done all the sudo at the beginning and even put this in the terminal
[10:42] <gregg> Now add the following links that the library install does not make:
[10:42] <gregg> cd /usr/lib32
[10:42] <gregg> sudo ln -s libX11.so.6 libX11.so
[10:42] <gregg> sudo ln -s libXext.so.6 libXext.so
[10:42] <gregg> sudo ln -s libfreetype.so.6 libfreetype.so
[10:42] <gregg> sudo ln -s libz.so.1 libz.so
[10:42] <hyphenated> joshua__: have you tried putting a DVD in it?
[10:42] <Colossus> joshua__: do you have mplayer or totem installed?
[10:42] <StraightShootin1> junk1 i'm afk for a few minutes... hey everyone if he starts asking for me tell him i'll be back in a few.... gonna spark a spliff
[10:42] <bp2626> alright sneakums ill check it out
[10:42] <xtknight> gregg: yikes, use pastebin next time as pasting >3 lines causing IRC to lag..  but you need only to paste the last line since i know what page youre following
[10:42] <speyer> xtknight thanks :)
[10:42] <tim167> xtknight hmm, and how do I find out the /dev/hdXy notation for  my "IOMEGA_HD" for example ?
[10:42] <gregg> sorry
[10:42] <xtknight> tim167: type   'df -h'
[10:42] <tim167> xtknight thanks
[10:42] <idefix> what is the type for /dev/lp0?
[10:43] <xtknight> what kind of type idefix?
[10:43] <gregg> do I paste in cd /user/lib32 first and then each sudo or all at once
[10:43] <idefix> xtknight the argument of the mount command
[10:43] <xtknight> gregg: just do exactly as it says.  type CD cmd once, then type in all the sudos
[10:43] <joshua__> hyphenated, Colossus yes
[10:43] <xtknight> idefix: mounting a printer?
[10:43] <idefix> xtknight yes
[10:43] <Jowi> yosyp, try this one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1457/
[10:43] <xtknight> idefix: hmm sorry i have no idea ;P.  what are you trying to do?
[10:44] <adon> exelan: have you disabled compizite manager?
[10:44] <Colossus> joshua__: Okay. Did the DVD play? If it's a DVD drive and it didn't play, I'm guessing there's something wrong.
[10:44] <idefix> xtknight just get my printer working, that's all
[10:44] <gregg> type CD cmd ???
[10:44] <gregg> confused
[10:44] <xtknight> idefix: i dont believe that a printer need be mounted
[10:44] <Colossus> joshua__: does it give any specific error?
[10:44] <_damian> how do you force unmount?
[10:44] <idefix> xtknight Paused: Unable to open parallel port device file "/dev/lp0": Permission denied
[10:44] <joshua__> Colossus: id did not play, no errors, but then totem's "Movie" menu doesnt list the drive, I have two internal optical drives already
[10:44] <xtknight> gregg: CD cmd  ..  i.e. 'cd /usr/lib32'  where ever you are just type 'cd /usr/lib32'   and continue on with the 'sudo' commands
[10:45] <miyako> do I need the nfs-kernel-server package to set up a simple NFS server- or will the standard kernel do?
[10:45] <xtknight> idefix: when does that error occur?
[10:45] <exelan> um
[10:45] <exelan> .. ???
[10:45] <idefix> when printing for example a test page
[10:45] <hyphenated> joshua__: do you have mplayer installed?
[10:45] <yosyp> Jowi: what kind of changes did you make?
[10:45] <Colossus> joshua__: 'kay ... does it show up in /dev/ anywhere?
[10:45] <ucordes> anybody on my X problem?
[10:45] <gregg> okay
[10:45] <Jowi> yosyp, some numbers in the Modeline were off
[10:45] <gregg> I will try this
[10:45] <tim167> xtknight i did sudo umount /dev/sda1 but nothing happens, the disk stays awake...
[10:45] <xiq_> _damian: umount -f ? ... you can also try killing any processes listed by fuser /device
[10:45] <Colossus> joshua__: I'd try $(mplayer dvd://1 -dvd-device=/dev/whatever)
[10:45] <Syntax_Error> where can i access my smb mounts?
[10:45] <xtknight> tim167: hm, what do you mean by awake
[10:45] <Syntax_Error> please
[10:45] <hyphenated> Colossus: exactly what I was going to suggest :-)
[10:45] <xtknight> idefix: hmm.  i dont know.  mounting won't fix the issue though.  may need to go through some printer troubleshooting dosc
[10:46] <eetfunk> hi all. I'm trying to run UnixBench on my linux vps but I get "too many arguments" errors at every step of the test.  Anybody has an idea why?
[10:46] <xtknight> idefix: docs*
[10:46] <tim167> xtknight, accessible
[10:46] <xtknight> !printer | idefix
[10:46] <Colossus> hyphenated: let's get married.
[10:46] <ubotu> idefix: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[10:46] <adon> exelan: could you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf? use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:46] <joshua__> hyphenated: not yet
[10:46] <Jowi> yosyp, also disabled the horiszync and displaysize and set the vertrefresh to only 60
[10:46] <xtknight> tim167: uh.  does it appear in '  df -h   '
[10:46] <tim167> xtknight yes
[10:46] <idefix> when I look at lp0, which obviously is used, it has a red rectangle with a cross as icon in Nautilus
[10:46] <idefix> xtnight
[10:46] <joshua__> Colossus: I thought it would show up as sd* but I dont see any sd* in /dev/
[10:46] <hyphenated> Colossus: haha
[10:46] <riotkittie> ok. this is ridiculous.  when this happens, i dont even have ttys!!
[10:46] <dredhammer> is there a program to edit/add avi header information in linux?
[10:46] <Jowi> yosyp, (horizsync normally not needed for LCD)
[10:46] <tim167> xtknight sorry no
[10:46] <yosyp> k, i'll reboot
[10:46] <riotkittie> there's just like... a blinking cursor
[10:46] <xtknight> tim167: hmm.  so you can stlil access it in Nautilus?
[10:46] <Colossus> joshua__: you sure you've got the right driver loaded?
[10:46] <hyphenated> joshua__: dmesg should have told you what device name it assigned to the drive
[10:47] <junk1> sorry im back
[10:47] <gregg> XT I am confused by this
[10:47] <Syntax_Error> maybe nobody here knows what is a smb mount... debian user may now ubuntu better than ubuntu users i guess
[10:47] <gregg> You may also want to try and link opengl. It built on my machine with the links below, but failed at runtime with an opengl error. You may have better luck. If opengl fails, remove the links, and run configure and make again.
[10:47] <xtknight> idefix: weird.  sorry i have never mounted a printer before, i guess it's possible yours needs to be.  i dont think so though
[10:47] <junk1> i looked alover i cant find the floppy
[10:47] <tim167> xtknight yes still in nautilus
[10:47] <idefix> xtknight, you're really sure about that?
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> Syntax_Error,  go read that using samba book perhaps... you mount stuff with the fstab or mount command wherever you want to mount them to
[10:47] <erUSUL> Syntax_Error: smb --> samba; is a windows share mount
[10:47] <xtknight> gregg: dont worry about that unless you have issues.  just run the commands lists on the page  and see what happens
[10:47] <joshua__> Colossus: i don't know i didnt manually load any driver
[10:47] <Flannel> !smb | Syntax_Error
[10:47] <Syntax_Error> lol
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <Flannel> er, blargh.
[10:48] <Flannel> !samba
[10:48] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:48] <xtknight> idefix: no not sure.  but 90% sure.  but if you say it's appeairng on your desktop with a cross that's pretty weird
[10:48] <Syntax_Error> strange how people react when you touch there sensibility
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> Syntax_Error,  your question iset very clear
[10:48] <exelan> Ok
[10:48] <exelan> .. I did
[10:48] <junk1> is there any thing in this from the start i can use? or modifi?
[10:48] <mnk0> hey sup, anyone know about beryl aigxl setup ??
[10:48] <exelan> .. um..  is it supposed to paste somewhere in particular?
[10:48] <tim167> xtknoght, I want to do the equivalent to 'eject' on the desktop, but from the terminal, so I don't have to use the mouse every time...
[10:48] <Colossus> joshua__: Right. It's possible that the driver isn't loaded. Check $(lsmod) to see if there's *hci-hcd.
[10:48] <Jowi> mnk0, try in #ubuntu-xgl
[10:48] <riotkittie> stranger how some people fail to realize that they are not the center of the channel, and that it may take a minute for people to answer their questions
[10:48] <idefix> xtknight, not on my desktop but in my nautilus file browser
[10:49] <mnk0> thx
[10:49] <xtknight> tim167: uh so you can still read `IOMEGA_HD` in nautilus yet it does not show up on 'df  -h '?
[10:49] <gregg> XT This is what the terminal says
[10:49] <CharonX> Does anyone know how to start another session while in gnome ? Im trying "xinit -- :1" It starts a windows session available via ctrl+alt+F9 but it does not let me log into gnome or do anything other then move the X cursor around ?
[10:49] <gregg> gregg-desktop:/usr/lib32$
[10:49] <Syntax_Error> Dr_Willis> what isn't clear? when you mount a smb share in ubuntu, it must do it somewhere, i just ask where
[10:49] <xtknight> idefix: argh.  no idea man.
[10:49] <tim167> xtknight indeed
[10:49] <mnk0> lol
[10:49] <gregg> do I need to get back to gregg-desktop:
[10:49] <mnk0> tim167, type eject
[10:49] <mnk0> lol
[10:49] <junk1> straightschooter1?
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> Syntax_Error,  actually it dosent mount them if you are refering to the smb:// stuff
[10:49] <Flannel> Syntax_Error: that page explains it
[10:49] <idefix> what is a print spooler?
[10:49] <tim167> xtknight sorry, now it shows up again in df -h
[10:49] <xtknight> gregg: just go on with the commands listed. as long as you follow those you will be fine
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> Syntax_Error,  you CAN mount them, but you dont ahve to.
[10:49] <xtknight> tim167: alright it is probably automounting
[10:50] <yosyp> Jowi: now its at 640 x 480 and no way to switch
[10:50] <xtknight> tim167: hmmmm
[10:50] <riotkittie> ok this is ridiculous  :|
[10:50] <mnk0> eject will open
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> Syntax_Error,  a program like gnomba, or smb4k can brouse and mount shares.
[10:50] <gregg> do I paste the other commands
[10:50] <mnk0> eject -t closes
[10:50] <tim167> mnk0: eject /dev/sda1 ?
[10:50] <Syntax_Error> Dr_Willis> actually i'd like to play files from a smb share in xmms
[10:50] <xtknight> gregg: yes
[10:50] <erUSUL> Syntax_Error: wherever you want... you are the admin of your machine, aren't you? be it under mnt/ just for the sake of maintain "unix folklore" ;)
[10:50] <Jowi> yosyp, that's odd.
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> Syntax_Error,  then you are back to either mounting them manually with fstab, or the FUSE tools, or gnomba, or other tools. not just browsing them with the filemanager
[10:50] <mbiven> xtknight: think you could point me in the right direction to solve this error after the make when compiling httpd-2.2.3 on a 64bit v of 6.06
[10:50] <riotkittie> any laptop users in here notice weird things when switching between a wireless and wired card?
[10:50] <adon> exelan: copy paste your file in the text box and the click paste. then copy paste the link to the page you get to
[10:50] <mbiven> xtknight:  error - /usr/bin/ld: /usr/local/lib/libz.a(crc32.o): relocation R_X86_64_32 against `a local symbol' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC
[10:51] <junk1> xtknight ? weres striaghtshooter1 go?
[10:51] <Syntax_Error> Dr_Willis> that's why i'm looking for the place where ubuntu places what he call a "network server"
[10:51] <Jowi> yosyp, how is the monitor connected? DVI-VGA adapter?
[10:51] <exelan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1459/
[10:51] <yosyp> Jowi: vga
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> Syntax_Error,  thats not mounting them anywhere. from what ive seen.
[10:51] <xtknight> mviben:  may need to compile with a library called 'PIC'.  not sure.
[10:51] <gregg> xtknight:  this is what it says after entering the commands
[10:51] <xiq> Syntax_Error: if ubuntu claims to have mounted it, see what "mount" says in the terminal.
[10:51] <gregg> gregg@gregg-desktop:/usr/lib32$ LDFLAGS="-L/lib32 -L/usr/lib32 -Wl,-rpath,/lib32 -Wl,-rpath,/usr/lib32" ./configure
[10:51] <gregg> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[10:51] <Jowi> yosyp, uncomment the MonitorLayout CRT option and see if that helps.
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> xiq,  good answer
[10:51] <xtknight> junk1: no idea.  what is it?
[10:51] <riotkittie> i've got everything but my wired card back in. and my issues continue after a reboot. but i dont know WHY the cards would cause this problem
[10:51] <yosyp> k
[10:51] <tim167> mnk0: eject -t /dev/sda1 didnt do the trick
[10:52] <adon> exelan: do you have 2 cards?
[10:52] <mbiven> xtknight:  thanks
[10:52] <yosyp> brb
[10:52] <xtknight> gregg: ok.  now you need to back to where you downloaded the wine source
[10:52] <junk1> a i need my wireless card to work
[10:52] <Jowi> yosyp, did you alter 915resolution in any way?
[10:52] <exelan> um.. no
[10:52] <Syntax_Error> Dr_Willis> so if i understand well, ubuntu doesn't mount the smb shares, it just make requests to the server each time i'm browsing the thing?
[10:52] <mnk0> tim167,  is ur drive mounted?
[10:52] <riotkittie> but i do know that when i pop the wired card back in and reboot, it will work perfectly
[10:52] <Colossus> junk1: what wireless card is it?
[10:52] <xtknight> mbiven: type ./configure --help   and post it in pastebin for httpd
[10:52] <junk1> he said i need to little files but i cant get them
[10:52] <tim167> mnk0 yes
[10:52] <mnk0> umm strange
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> Syntax_Error,  bingo.
[10:52] <mnk0> works for me
[10:52] <gregg> I don't remember downloading the wine sourse
[10:52] <gregg> I don't believe I did
[10:52] <mnk0> eject --help
[10:52] <junk1> wn825gvs motorola
[10:52] <zukalk> i think my kernel has 'blocked' an IRQ... how do i undo that?
[10:52] <adon> exelan: edit you file and find the place it says fglrx
[10:52] <xtknight> gregg: that's fine.  we can do it at anytime
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> Syntax_Error,  thats why if ya try to play a file it downloads then plays it.
[10:52] <Syntax_Error> pffffffff, i just LOVE debian...
[10:53] <gregg> xtknight:  how do i do this
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> Syntax_Error,  debians gnome does the same thing.,
[10:53] <varsendaggr> hey how do i find the readme file that has to do with broadcast address?
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> Syntax_Error,  if you want the share mounted.. then mount it with some tool.
[10:53] <riotkittie> Debian loves you too. ;P
[10:53] <Syntax_Error> pfffff, i just hate gnome ^^
[10:53] <xtknight> gregg: http://www.winehq.org/site/download
[10:53] <toulouse> i got two monitors to make a mirror of each other when i restarted my computer, but then i just goes to one monitor, and not both, any suggestions?
[10:54] <toulouse> do i need to edit the xorg.conf file?
[10:54] <riotkittie> argh. this is lame. so. basically. i cant go mobile at whim. i cant even use my other distro when this does this because i cant get my wireless working there
[10:54] <junk1> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174                           sudo sent me here from the other channel but i dont get it
[10:54] <idefix> you cannot open 'files'/'entries' in the media dir? why not?
[10:54] <juano__> how do i change keyboard language?
[10:54] <gregg> xtknight:  I tried changing the repositories as described in the help file but it didn't work...suggestions
[10:54] <xtknight> mbiven: are you compiling a 64-bit verison of httpd?  is it 64-bit safe?
[10:55] <matthew> Got a quick question... what is the best programme to burn .img files (film) to DVDs on Linux / Gnome
[10:55] <xtknight> gregg: alright.  ill see if i can find a wine source archive.  i think that repository has been down
[10:55] <tim167> mnk0: ok.. so unmouning<>ejecting ? :-p
[10:55] <Colossus> tim167: did you just use "<>" for "not equals"?
[10:55] <gregg> xtknight:  thanks for the help!!
[10:55] <xtknight> gregg: http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=6241&use_mirror=superb-west&filename=wine-0.9.29.tar.bz2&56610324
[10:55] <tim167> Colossus: yes
[10:55] <Colossus> tim167: isn't that like a k-line-able offense in the civilized world?
[10:55] <exelan> .. o
[10:55] <exelan> .k
[10:55] <xtknight> gregg: thankfully they have a source forge
[10:55] <yosyp> Jowi: now, I uncommented the CRT line, still in this small resolution
[10:55] <mnk0> yeah ;0
[10:56] <tim167> Colossus: what do you mean ?
[10:56] <exelan> now what
[10:56] <idefix> how much is a Commodore Amiga 500 worth?
[10:56] <mnk0> $1
[10:56] <Martiini> Anyone got idea, how I can get partitions back on a harddrive with bad partition table?
[10:56] <idefix> :-)
[10:56] <Colossus> tim167: generally people use != for "not equals".
[10:56] <mnk0> youd have to pay the garbage ppl to take it
[10:56] <xtknight> Martiini: use the latest version of 'testdisk'
[10:56] <BULLE> Martiini: restore backups
[10:56] <Martiini> thanks :) .. fast guys , man
[10:56] <idefix> mnk0 and yes aminet exists...
[10:57] <juano__> how do i change keyboard language?
[10:57] <idefix> and yet*
[10:57] <xtknight> Martiini: it's a great partition recovery program.  but i had to download the latest version to get it to do anything.  get the latest version off their site, do NOT bother using the one in the repos
[10:57] <Rookie-1> Amiga ? think you can have a good penny for that if you find the right person
[10:57] <tim167> Colossus: oh that, yes my bad... so unmounting!=ejecting ?
[10:57] <gregg> xtknight:  it says that it was downloaded but now what?
[10:57] <mnk0> hh
[10:57] <Jowi> yosyp, ok. let's try an option.... in the Device section in xorg.conf can you add the option: Option "ForceBIOS" "640x480=1440x900"
[10:57] <Colossus> tim167: I think ejecting includes unmounting, but I'm not clear on the distinction.
[10:57] <xtknight> gregg: hm.  do you know where it was downloaded to?
[10:57] <mnk0> uhuh
[10:58] <xtknight> speyer: me too.  having a fever is fun
[10:58] <gregg> not at all I just opened your link and it downloaded
[10:58] <gregg> sorry to be such a novice
[10:58] <xiq> Martiini: there is a program called testdisk (it's on debian, maybe ubuntu) that can scan a disk and find partitions..
[10:58] <junk1> i need the wireless card to work i got the cd it came with with the drivers on it how do i get it to work?
[10:58] <gregg> much more comfortable with windows xp
[10:58] <killown> how I do to record video dvd  to watch in my player of dvd ?
[10:58] <adon> exelan: see private
[10:58] <speyer> xtknight doesnt sound that good :(
[10:58] <xtknight> gregg: lol its fine we were all that way.  i would suggest you read up on some docs first but i wont put you through that..  really the easiest way is to just do one thing after another and this is just one thing.  so ill guide you thruogh this
[10:58] <Martiini> xig,  got that , Thank You
[10:58] <Ferret> !wireless
[10:58] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:59] <xtknight> speyer: weird diseases going around i swear
[10:59] <idefix> how can I mount linux as root (which is needed to get permission to lp0)?
[10:59] <yosyp> Jowi: k, i'll try
[10:59] <bosko> Hi, I just downloaded the newest version of Ubuntu Desktop and tried to boot up/install it, and it begins loading but it seems to hang at the last chunk of the loading bar. It doesn't even seem to keep reading the CD, just sits there. any idea what could be wrong?
[10:59] <Niklas_E> install a ubuntu on a sparcstation ipx over the net (not useing or having screen or keyboard?)
[10:59] <xtknight> gregg: um does it appear on your Desktop?
[10:59] <exelan> eh??
[10:59] <speyer> xtknight i have a good anti-virus protection on my house ;)
[10:59] <exelan> .. sorry, I dont understand :|
[10:59] <Martiini> idefix .. you can log on as root if you wanna
[10:59] <gregg> no I checked that already
[10:59] <junk1> ubotu im tired of tryn to read stuff i just want someone to tell me what to do so i can get the card working
[10:59] <xtknight> speyer: my iptables need to be updated ;O
[10:59] <ubotu> im: mail/news handling commands and Perl modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:148-5 (edgy), package size 310 kB, installed size 1260 kB
[11:00] <mbiven> xtknight:  http://pastebin.com/858607 and I dont think there is a 64 bit version of httpd-2.2.x, but I've ran it on other 64bit OSs before, lookign through there docs now
[11:00] <Martiini> junk1 what card is that? you can always find answers in ubuntuforums.org
[11:00] <xtknight> gregg: using firefox?  do you have any idea where the file is going?  i tihnk its the Desktop by default
[11:00] <speyer> xtknight hell yeah reject any incoming diseases
[11:00] <gregg> xtknight:  where elxe would it be
[11:00] <ubuntu1> HI
[11:00] <NkZ> Greetings guys
[11:00] <ubuntu1> now i download strange update from Ubutnu
[11:00] <N6REJ> is there a good web interface for administering my server via the intranet?
[11:00] <xtknight> strange updates..i hate those
[11:00] <xtknight> lol
[11:00] <ubuntu1> and how is that possible for UBuntu to make it
[11:01] <N6REJ> especially things like postgres
[11:01] <NkZ> How can I edit the "Places" menu? The "Alacarte" menu manager does not let me edit it. What could I do?
[11:01] <ubuntu1> LInux restricted updates
[11:01] <juano__> how do i change keyboard language?
[11:01] <enoxis> how do i specify an fs type in mount?
[11:01] <xtknight> gregg: ok well we can use this as a last resort.   type this in the terminal:  `sudo updatedb`
[11:01] <gregg> xtknight:  I am using Konqueror
[11:01] <xtknight> gregg: ohhh
[11:01] <N6REJ> juano__:  look in system preferences
[11:01] <xtknight> gregg: check in your Home directory adn see if there is a Downloads folder?
[11:01] <n2diy> N6REJ: qsl?
[11:01] <junk1> colossuss you got any ideas?
[11:01] <xtknight> gregg: dont do updatedb yet
[11:01] <alvarezp> juano__: IIRC, System > Preferences > Keyboard
[11:01] <ramon> hi
[11:02] <ubuntu1> NOw linuxs strange update
[11:02] <ramon> Hola a todos
[11:02] <ubuntu1> who is make this
[11:02] <N6REJ> n2diy de N6REJ how's it going?  I'm in knoxville Iowa
[11:02] <juano__> N6REJ: i did already, i went into regional language and changed it there, then i went into keyboard and theres no option for language in keyboard
[11:02] <xtknight> ramon: espanol?
[11:02] <n2diy> N6REJ: RR, Lansford, Pa.
[11:02] <ramon> si
[11:02] <xtknight> !es | ramon
[11:02] <ubotu> ramon: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:02] <ubuntu1> in the info write this update i restricted
[11:02] <ramon> ok
[11:02] <NkZ> How can I edit the "Places" menu? The "Alacarte" menu manager does not let me edit it. What could I do?
[11:02] <Martiini> heh, heh .. no espaniola here
[11:02] <N6REJ> juano__: you may not have the language installed for that keyboard.  make sure you've installed all the language files for that language.
[11:02] <Amaranth> NkZ: you can't
[11:03] <junk1> straightshooter1 see ya
[11:03] <ubuntu1> Martiini plufff with out SPanish man
[11:03] <rvalles> I had stuff that was executed at the end of the boot process, in /etc/rc.local ; why is that? how can I make some script be run at the end of the boot process?
[11:03] <N6REJ> nice 2 meet you
[11:03] <Colossus> Hmm. The screen on the Ubuntu install is still borken. I think I'm going to install a different distro.
[11:03] <NkZ> Amaranth: That blows. :-( Any alternative?
[11:03] <n2diy> N6REJ: RR, you too, 73
[11:03] <ubuntu1> Martiini i live IN Barcelona
[11:03] <xtknight> there is no such thing as impossible
[11:03] <Amaranth> NkZ: to what?
[11:03] <xtknight> linux is open, remember
[11:03] <N6REJ> 73's OM
[11:03] <Amaranth> NkZ: you can't edit the places menu, period
[11:03] <ubuntu1> Martiini do you have idea why
[11:03] <xtknight> NkZ:  you can add stuff to Places using the File Open menu
[11:03] <Martiini> ubuntu1 .. Im ouhappy for y
[11:04] <yosyp> Jowi: That still gave me the small resolution... when I commented out the DDC FALSE line it went to 1440x900 but it is still moves up and right
[11:04] <xtknight> NkZ: file open dialog rather.  there's a button the left that says Add.  when you do file open in any program youll see it
[11:04] <ubuntu1> xtknight open but i have update that is restricted
[11:04] <N6REJ> now where was I LOL
[11:04] <ubuntu1> Martiini i know and that mean piss off
[11:04] <N6REJ> oh yeah, I need a web shell that was it.
[11:04] <NkZ> I'll test that, Thanks!
[11:04] <Amaranth> !ohmy | ubuntu1
[11:04] <ubotu> ubuntu1: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:05] <gluglu> hi, i have a problem
[11:05] <Jowi> yosyp, very odd indeed... do you have an autoadjust button on your monitor?
[11:05] <bosko> Hi, I just downloaded the newest version of Ubuntu Desktop and tried to boot up/install it, and it begins loading but it seems to hang at the last chunk of the loading bar. It doesn't even seem to keep reading the CD, just sits there. any idea what could be wrong?
[11:05] <yosyp> Jowi: yes but the results are the same
[11:05] <k010> my boot hangs on "waiting for root filesystem" what does this mean?
[11:05] <gluglu> when I'm using a program that uses the sound, for example Amsn, other programs can't use the sound anymore. how can i fix it ?
[11:05] <Amaranth> k010: are you using feisty?
[11:06] <ubuntu1> !ohmy |  Amaranth
[11:06] <ubotu> Amaranth: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:06] <matthew> Got a quick question... what is the best programme to burn .img files (film) to DVDs on Linux / Gnome
[11:06] <k010> no
[11:06] <ubuntu1> Matthew linux nero
[11:06] <N6REJ> anyone know pgadmin?
[11:06] <xtknight> matthew: you could also use gnomebaker
[11:06] <Amaranth> matthew: brasero can do it
[11:06] <k010> Amaranth, i was tryin to boot into a 2.6.20 kernel
[11:06] <exelan> Adon??
[11:06] <exelan> ..
[11:06] <Amaranth> k010: so, same problem as feisty
[11:06] <matthew> xtknight: GnomeBaker tells me .img is not a valid image file
[11:07] <xtknight> matthew: oh
[11:07] <Amaranth> k010: 2.6.20 has bugs with IDE stuff
[11:07] <xtknight> hmm
[11:07] <xtknight> im using 2.6.20-rc4 now
[11:07] <xtknight> what problems are you having?
[11:07] <toulouse> hey guys, how do i get two monitors working (nVidia card)
[11:07] <k010> Amaranth, i been hearing about that but when i install feisty it was booting fine for me
[11:07] <xtknight> 2.6.20-rc4, i find that GL programs and wine completely crash the X server though :(
[11:07] <gregg> xtknight:  I have the file downloaded to my desktop
[11:07] <Jowi> yosyp, give me a moment.
[11:07] <k010> xtknight, there 2.6.20-r5 out
[11:07] <Amaranth> k010: maybe feisty has a version before/after the breakage or has patches for it
[11:07] <gregg> xtknight:  now what do you suggest
[11:08] <n2diy> toulouse: I don't know anything about it, but I have seen Twinview mentioned here.
[11:08] <erUSUL> xtknight: i have had the same problem due to the recent x-server update, reinstalling the nvidia driver fixes it
[11:08] <xtknight> gregg: go in the terminal.  type   '  cd ~/Desktop'
[11:08] <k010> Amaranth, there was talks about the initram-tools causing a problem
[11:08] <xiq> matthew: what does "file whatever.img" say?
[11:08] <xtknight> erUSUL: oh?  thanks ill try.  ah i remember i think a libGLX link was broken or something
[11:08] <Amaranth> k010: maybe
[11:08] <Amaranth> k010: either way, what you are doing is not supported
[11:09] <gregg> okay
[11:09] <gregg> done
[11:09] <idefix> is this command wise? sudo chown vincent lp0
[11:09] <toulouse> ya me 2
[11:09] <matthew> xiq: its okay, brasero works
[11:09] <xtknight> erUSUL: i think it was my wine compile that screwed it up
[11:09] <k010> Amaranth, would 2.6.19 work?
[11:09] <erUSUL> xtknight: that's exactly the problem the update messed with the GL lib
[11:09] <Amaranth> k010: why not use the kernel edgy came with?
[11:09] <xtknight> erUSUL: hm the kernel update did?
[11:09] <k010> Amaranth, i just want to play around
[11:09] <n2diy> idefix: no
[11:09] <gregg> xtknight: I have the desktop running in terminal what do you suggest at this point
[11:10] <erUSUL> xtknight: no the x-server update did ;)
[11:10] <xtknight> erUSUL: interesting, this problem needs some exposure on the forums i suppose....
[11:10] <idefix> n2diy, you can however change the owner of the devices
[11:10] <xtknight> gregg: tar -xjvf wine......
[11:10] <Amaranth> k010: well i can't help you, too many things need to be changed when you change your kernel version _and_ you're using an unreleased version of the kernel :P
[11:10] <xtknight> gregg: type that and then after wine press tab and it wil complete the file name.
[11:10] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> !kernel
[11:10] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[11:10] <xtknight> gregg: that is the way to extract a tar.bz2 archive
[11:10] <erUSUL> xtknight: well people that uses vanilla kernell and nvidia.com drivers should be ready to face some problems ;)
[11:10] <k010> Amaranth, i did read someway on the forum that theres no problem with the kernel 2.6.19
[11:10] <n2diy> idefix: you don't want to change the owner of devices, they belong to the system, not you. :)
[11:11] <idefix> n2diy how then do I use 'em?
[11:11] <Amaranth> k010: that was an initramfs-tools bugs in feisty
[11:11] <NkZ> Thanks for the help guys
[11:11] <NkZ> That worked Perfectly
[11:11] <idefix> n2diy Unable to open parallel port device file "/dev/lp0": Permission denied is the error I get
[11:11] <Amaranth> k010: 2.6.19 worked for those people because the initramfs for that kernel hadn't be updated
[11:11] <n2diy> idefix: you don't, the programs you run use them.
[11:11] <NkZ> Now I could link the "places" to my 2nd HD. I love ya woohoo
[11:11] <Amaranth> s/be/been/
[11:11] <zukalk> i think my kernel has 'blocked' an IRQ and now my ieee1394 card now longer shows up in lspci. how do i undo that?
[11:11] <gregg> okay
[11:12] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> When I do 'apt-get install linux-source' it says linux-source is already at the newest version. But where is the new source saved at? It isnt in /usr/src
[11:12] <gregg> it just finished running in terminal
[11:12] <CheshireViking> erUSUL: just come back to my pc & saw you talking about nvidia & kernel problems, what was that about?
[11:12] <k010> Amaranth, i installed the 1.4.30 initram-tool heard they fixed the bug
[11:12] <n2diy> idefix: what are you trying to setup, a desktop, server?
[11:12] <gregg> xtknight:  will it work now?
[11:12] <xiq> asdfjkahsdfjkha: dpkg -L linux-source
[11:12] <Amaranth> asdfjkahsdfjkha: should be a subdir or tar.gz file in /usr/src/
[11:12] <Hansin321> I need Kernel sources for Dapper (2.6.15-23-server) to be able to compile Asterisk 1.4.  Where can I get these?  Should there be a package in the repositories for this?
[11:12] <xtknight> gregg: type    ` cd wine.... `  when i put in ellipsis in there i mean press tab to complete the directory/file name.  no we're not done yet
[11:12] <Amaranth> k010: *shrug*
[11:12] <N6REJ> can anyone help me with postgres administration?
[11:12] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> xiq, That worked thanks!
[11:13] <Amaranth> k010: As I said, I do not know how to help you. Either figure it out on your own or use the kernel that came with edgy (if you didn't break it too).
[11:13] <k010> Amaranth, what kernel u using?
[11:13] <Amaranth> k010: Sorry.
[11:13] <Amaranth> Linux sorrow 2.6.20-5-generic #2 SMP Sat Jan 6 14:50:47 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:13] <juano__> i cant seem to change keyboard language anyone knows how to do this ?
[11:13] <Amaranth> k010: i use feisty and SATA HD and DVD drive
[11:13] <erUSUL> CheshireViking: i use drivers from nvidia.com and the last x-server update broke the install and any 3d app restarted the xserver. you can fix the problem reinstalling the drivers
[11:13] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> xiq, actually, that didnt unpack it at all
[11:13] <n2diy> juano__: are you using X?
[11:13] <idefix> n2diy I'm trying to print something on my HP710C
[11:13] <xtknight> k010: what problem are you having?
[11:14] <yosyp> Jowi: ..?
[11:14] <juano__> n2diy: im using KDE now
[11:14] <Amaranth> juano__: System->Preferences->Keyboard
[11:14] <idefix> n2diy
[11:14] <gregg> xtknight:  I tried that but after I type cd wine' and hit tab it just beeps at me
[11:14] <k010> xtknight, kernel 2.6.20-rc5 hangs on boot
[11:14] <Amaranth> juano__: you need #kubuntu then
[11:14] <n2diy> juano__: sorry, I don't know how to do it with KDE, only Gnome.
[11:14] <Jowi> yosyp, can you paste the output of "915resolution -l" and "gtf 1440 900 60 -x" please
[11:14] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> amaranth, Well the subdir / tar is not there... How would I find it/
[11:14] <xtknight> idefix: dapper or edgy?  hp printers experience issues.  for one you need to  edit pnm2ppa.conf  and set a version...for the other you need to do 'sudo modprobe ppdev'  prior to installing the printer.  those will give you some pointers
[11:14] <juano__> Amaranth: ther eis no option for language there
[11:14] <idefix> breezer
[11:14] <k010> xtknight, might try 2.6.19
[11:14] <Amaranth> asdfjkahsdfjkha: dpkg -L linux-source
[11:14] <n2diy> idefix: what program are you running that you want to print from?
[11:14] <xiq> juano__: in ubuntu, system -> preferences -> keyboard preferences -> layout
[11:15] <compsman> i need help on shareing folders wen on thw windows machine it asks for user name and pass
[11:15] <idefix> the editor or the openoffice apps
[11:15] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> amaranth, That does not unpack the kernel source
[11:15] <Lurner> help ! I just installed gnuchess through the synaptic install system and now I can't find the program on my applications task bar or my desktop.. how do I run my new chess program ?
[11:15] <xtknight> gregg: type `ls -al` for a list of directories.  change into the directory where the wine source was extracted
[11:15] <CheshireViking> erSUL: i use nvidia drivers & didn't have a problem with the update, but i saw a few people in here last night with that problem, one reinstalled nvidia-glx & another had problems with "dri"
[11:15] <Amaranth> asdfjkahsdfjkha: kernel.org then
[11:15] <n2diy> juano__: you might be able to do it in terminal, with loadkeys, but I haven't tried that.
[11:15] <erUSUL> Lurner: from a terminal type gnuchess
[11:15] <Amaranth> n2diy: it's xmodmap
[11:16] <k010> Amaranth, is feisty good, i had it some weeks ago had problem with my xgl
[11:16] <Lurner> how do I make a desktop icon  or put it on the application taskbar ?
[11:16] <xtknight> Lurner: sometimes you have to reboot for items to appear.  seems to be a bug
[11:16] <yosyp> Jowi: http://rafb.net/p/zJomUW20.html
[11:16] <xtknight> Lurner: reinstalling the package also seems to work sometimes...i dont know, its happened to me before
[11:16] <Jowi> yosyp, ok
[11:16] <Amaranth> k010: If you absolutely don't care about having to wipe your system and reinstall it's just fine
[11:16] <frost> k, i have the mozzilla suit downlaoded, i have updated and upgraded now how to i install it?
[11:16] <Amaranth> k010: and if you know how to hold packages, downgrade packages, and read things before accepting them
[11:17] <gregg> xtknight:  what am I looking for
[11:17] <k010> Amaranth, it was my first time using aptitude 2day great tool
[11:17] <Jowi> yosyp, is /etc/default/915resolution containing any info?
[11:17] <Amaranth> k010: You're not ready to be running feisty then :)
[11:17] <CheshireViking> erSUL: something i've just remembered was that the ones who had problems with update, all had beryl installed, i haven't, maybe that was the difference
[11:17] <Lurner> yikes.. it's a shell notational program.. oppss.. the kids aren't going to like that.. who knows of a good chess program ?
[11:18] <Amaranth> !glchess
[11:18] <yosyp> Jowi: nope
[11:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glchess - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:18] <Lurner> that poeutchess died on me
[11:18] <k010> Amaranth, nah i'll stay away for awhile edgy works just fine
[11:18] <Jowi> yosyp, only the MODE=auto?
[11:18] <yosyp> no auto
[11:18] <xtknight> gregg: are you sure the tar -xjvf command completed with success?
[11:18] <yosyp> nothing for mode, just the XRESO and YRESO
[11:18] <Amaranth> !3dchess
[11:18] <xtknight> gregg: it should have placed a wine-0.9.29 folder on your desktop
[11:18] <ubotu> 3dchess: 3D chess for X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-12 (edgy), package size 31 kB, installed size 132 kB
[11:19] <Amaranth> Lurner: ^
[11:19] <idefix> xtknight, I cannot edit pnm2ppa.conf because it's a binary, my editor complains
[11:19] <Lurner> I'll try it !
[11:19] <erUSUL> xtknight: whay not use this http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/ instead of compiling?
[11:19] <root_> hello
[11:19] <yosyp> Jowi: should i set it to something?
[11:19] <xtknight> erUSUL: he has 64-bit
[11:20] <erUSUL> xtknight: fair enough ;)
[11:20] <root_> i'm with bitchx, anybody knows a "more graphical" irc for edgy? thanks
[11:20] <bruenig> !xchat
[11:20] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB
[11:20] <root_> thanks
[11:20] <xtknight> idefix: did you edit with sudo?
[11:20] <Jowi> yosyp, as far as i can see everything is set up correctly. you are getting the correct resolution but it's off center. the only thing I can think off is that perhaps you do need the horizsync and an exact vertrefresh. that's it.
[11:20] <idefix> xtknight, what does 'sudo modprobe ppdev' do?
[11:20] <frost> AHHH CAN anyone help me with Mozilla Firefox?
[11:20] <Rprp> Well, my sound is coming again 3/4 seconds later if im gaming, I installed libopenal0a, alsa-oss, etc... no other music progs are running, so. whats wrong?
[11:20] <gregg> xtknight:  I have many folders on my desktop now with the tbz file for wine but no folder with wine-0.9.29
[11:20] <idefix> xtknight, how do I set a version (for what?)?
[11:21] <xtknight> idefix: fixes a bug in ubuntu where some printers aren't detected
[11:21] <yosyp> hmm *looks at paper with resolutions*
[11:21] <steelb> what is the "vim" command?
[11:21] <Jowi> yosyp, do you have another OS installed? have you ever gotten the correct positioning?
[11:21] <bruenig> frost, little more specific
[11:21] <MattCampbell> Why does Ubuntu ship xvncviewer 3.x instead of 4.x?
[11:21] <frost> k
[11:21] <bruenig> steelb, vim is a text editor
[11:21] <erUSUL> steelb: an editor
[11:21] <xtknight> idefix: edit pnm2ppa.conf with sudo
[11:21] <yosyp> Jowi: windows...
[11:21] <Jowi> yosyp, and Win works fine?
[11:21] <xiq> gasp, i misread "feisty herd 1" and thought the next ubuntu would be using the hurd kernel ;)
[11:21] <hejsa> Yo!
[11:21] <xtknight> gregg: alright.   type this again and report the error.   'tar -xjvf wine-0.9.29.tar.bz2'
[11:21] <frost> i downlaoded the mozzilla suit thing, i've updated and upgraded i just need to install it and i have no i idea who it works
[11:21] <steelb> thanks
[11:21] <yosyp> Jowi: yes
[11:21] <mbiven> xtknight: I think I've about given up on httpd-2.2.3 on a 64bit v of 6.06, I'd reload a 32bit version if the server wasn't half way around the world :D
[11:21] <bruenig> xtknight, is there any reason you are installing source?
[11:22] <xtknight> bruenig: 64-bit wine.  repos do not contain 64bit ver
[11:22] <Lurner> back to my other question.. in general, how does one create a desktop icon that respresents a program if the package manager doesn't do it ? is that the symlink thing ?
[11:22] <bruenig> ah
[11:22] <yosyp> Jowi: the manual says Vert.Freq. should be 60Hz, and it is
[11:22] <SurfnKid> could someone bid on an item on ebay?
[11:22] <xtknight> mbiven: hmm.  its gotta be possible somehow but it may not be worth it
[11:22] <xtknight> mbiven: the one in the repos isnt suitable? too old for 64?
[11:22] <exelan> /who
[11:23] <idefix> xtnight okok, so only in the /etc/ dir are there uncompiled files and in the other dirs they're all compiled?
[11:23] <bruenig> frost, the mozilla suite, the seamonkey thing?
[11:23] <frost> i have no idea
[11:23] <frost> it says create a directorie called mozilla
[11:23] <Energizor> Anyone had problems with web pages showing multiple images that are the same in firefox 1.5,2.0?
[11:23] <mbiven> xtknight:  I only saw a httpd-2.0 version I need 2.2.x for mod_proxy_balancer
[11:23] <xtknight> idefix: ummm....not really.  etc usually contains conf files
[11:23] <Jowi> yosyp, any difference if you set the Depth to 16? (doubt it will but you never know)
[11:24] <gregg> xtknight:  I don't have an error.  here is the ending lines in terminal:  libdata/ldconfig/wine
[11:24] <gregg> gregg@gregg-desktop:~/Desktop$
[11:24] <bakert> is total combat: elite any good?  apparently it runs on linux
[11:24] <yosyp> Jowi: let me try *brb again*
[11:24] <Jowi> yosyp, (ctrl-alt-backspace is enough to test, no reboot needed)
[11:24] <idefix> xtknight, ok I have it open
[11:24] <xtknight> mbiven: any packages in debian unstable for httpd 2.2 amd64?
[11:24] <StraightShootin1> damn.. he came and left again
[11:24] <bruenig> !info mozilla
[11:24] <ubotu> mozilla: The Mozilla Internet application suite - meta package. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.7.13-0.2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[11:24] <StraightShootin1> but i feel better :D
[11:24] <xtknight> idefix: pnm2ppa.conf?  alright find the line that says Verison and uncomment it
[11:24] <Glench> StraightShootin1: didn't work
[11:24] <simonbowen> can any one point me to how i can install that MacOS menu bar
[11:24] <bruenig> frost, try sudo apt-get install mozilla
[11:24] <N6REJ> where is apache2 live by default?
[11:25] <beernutz> hey, what is the best supported "current" sound card for linux?
[11:25] <Glench> I'm now on a laptop connected to the ubuntu box
[11:25] <bakert> N6REJ, config file or html files?
[11:25] <StraightShootin1> glench  didn't work?  what happened
[11:25] <bakert> N6REJ, or logs?
[11:25] <xtknight> idefix: it should say version 710   in the file somewhere.  it may have a # in front of it.  if so, remove that #
[11:25] <frost> kk i think iyt worked
[11:25] <idefix> xtknight and enable the version  720 line?
[11:25] <compsman> on windows how do i connect to ubuntu the share folder?
[11:25] <mbiven> xtknight: I'm not sure how I would go about checking that
[11:25] <Glench> but I cn't figure out how to bridge the connections
[11:25] <xtknight> idefix: exactly
[11:25] <xtknight> idefix: well 710 not 720
[11:25] <bakert> N6REJ, /var/www is the web root
[11:25] <Glench> StraightShootin1: it needed some other dependencies
[11:25] <N6REJ> I've forgotten how to config apache2 so that I can access it from my lan.
[11:25] <StraightShootin1> glench   which ones?
[11:25] <N6REJ> ok, thanks!
[11:25] <xtknight> mbiven: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
[11:26] <idefix> xtknight it said version  720	# 710, 712, 722 also acceptable
[11:26] <xtknight> idefix: make it 'version 710'
[11:26] <gregg> anyone know how to get my other windows hard drive to show in the files?
[11:26] <xtknight> idefix: for an hp 710 printer
[11:26] <Glench> ndiswrapper-common and ndiswrapper-utils-1.1
[11:26] <idefix> do i need to restart for the settings to take effect?
[11:26] <gregg> xtknight:  what do you suggest
[11:26] <bakert> N6REJ, config is /etc/apache2/sites-available/default (for the default site)
[11:26] <compsman> on windows how do i connect to ubuntu the share folder?
[11:26] <Lurner> gregg.. do you mean a share or a mount ?
[11:26] <xtknight> gregg: post  'ls -al '  to pastebin please
[11:26] <mnoir> !ntfs | gregg
[11:26] <ubotu> gregg: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:26] <yosyp> Jowi: no change
[11:26] <Glench> I just decided it would be easier to bridge the connections, but I don't know how to do that via ethernet
[11:26] <StraightShootin1> glench... i will look for them... you cant hook it up wired?  if you could you could get them in via synaptic
[11:26] <xtknight> gregg: for the wine problem, that is
[11:27] <Glench> StraightShootin1: that's what I'm tring to do
[11:27] <yosyp> !ubotu | yosyp
[11:27] <ubotu> yosyp: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:27] <idefix> xtknightdo i need to restart for the settings to take effect?
[11:27] <Glench> not sure how I would go about doing that
[11:27] <LucianSolaris> damn, kontact is just like outlook, no way of putting it in the tray (aka keep it minimized or it's closed).  I also don't think Kontact can check mail while closed...
[11:27] <xtknight> idefix: probably
[11:27] <Pie-rate> no sound - confirmed NOT A HARDWARE ISSUE (knoppix works perfectly). just stopped working recently, not sure what changed. HELP!!!
[11:27] <unclemike> ? i just downloaded the ubuntu 6.10 iso...going from 6.06 whats going to be faster..fresh install or gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"
[11:27] <LucianSolaris> anyone, is that correct?
[11:27] <beernutz> hey, anyone know which one is the best supported "current" sound card for linux?  My USB Sblive! 24 does not work so well with alsa and such.
[11:27] <compsman> on windows how do i connect to ubuntu the share folder?
[11:27] <N6REJ> bakert: well, whats happening is type "http://servername" on my xp machine and it goes to the index.  Then I have to click on the apache link to get apache default page
[11:27] <xtknight> beernutz: probably sound blaster audigy 2 zs
[11:27] <erUSUL> unclemike: the later
[11:27] <N6REJ> bakert: I want to add phppgadmin to that page somehow
[11:27] <StraightShootin1> glench  i got no idea for bridging the connections... why cant you just plug eth cable into ubuntu box and be offline on other one while you get if fixed?
[11:27] <xtknight> beernutz: i dont think creative X-fi has linux support yet
[11:28] <Glench> because there is no ethernet port up here
[11:28] <unclemike> erUSUL, whats the later the upgrade
[11:28] <Glench> there is only a wirelessly connected laptop, StraightShootin1
[11:28] <junk1> i have the cd the wireless card came with how do i get teh thing to let me use wireless card in ubuntu
[11:28] <beernutz> gotcha.. and that one is an internal pci card i take it?  the sound blaster audigy 2 zs?
[11:28] <Glench> which I' talking from now
[11:28] <bruenig> unclemike, faster or better, I am sure the cdrom upgrade will be faster, especially considering that there is no real post install work as far as getting all your apps and codecs back, but breakage could occur
[11:28] <StraightShootin1> but it is a laptop.. can you not move it to the ethernet jack?
[11:28] <Jowi> yosyp, I'm lost. the sync should be good. last advice I can give is to enter the correct horizsync value and then it's only manually positioning the screen directly on your monitor.
[11:28] <gregg> xtknight:  total 9860
[11:28] <gregg> drwxr-xr-x  8 gregg gregg    4096 2007-01-13 15:22 .
[11:28] <gregg> drwxr-xr-x 29 gregg gregg    4096 2007-01-13 15:22 ..
[11:28] <gregg> drwxr-xr-x  2 gregg gregg    4096 2007-01-13 15:22 bin
[11:28] <gregg> -rw-r--r--  1 gregg gregg      60 2006-08-13 20:11 +COMMENT
[11:28] <gregg> -rw-r--r--  1 gregg gregg   66243 2006-08-13 20:11 +CONTENTS
[11:28] <gregg> -rw-r--r--  1 gregg gregg     310 2006-08-13 20:11 +DESC
[11:28] <gregg> -rw-r--r--  1 gregg gregg     639 2006-08-13 20:11 +DISPLAY
[11:28] <bruenig> !paste
[11:28] <yosyp> comeon gregg
[11:28] <erUSUL> unclemike:  gksu
[11:28] <gregg> -rw-r--r--  1 gregg gregg    4849 2006-10-02 18:48 frobate-001b299e12.desktop
[11:28] <ubotu> paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[11:28] <erUSUL>                    "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"
[11:28] <gregg> drwxr-xr-x  3 gregg gregg    4096 2007-01-13 15:11 include
[11:28] <Glench> StraightShootin1: , there IS NO ETHERNET JACK
[11:28] <gregg> drwxr-xr-x  3 gregg gregg    4096 2007-01-13 15:22 lib
[11:28] <gregg> drwxr-xr-x  3 gregg gregg    4096 2007-01-13 15:11 libdata
[11:28] <gregg> drwxr-xr-x  3 gregg gregg    4096 2007-01-13 15:11 man
[11:28] <StraightShootin1> glench... cruddy
[11:28] <gregg> -r--r--r--  1 gregg gregg   15218 2006-08-13 20:11 +MTREE_DIRS
[11:28] <gregg> -rw-r--r--  1 gregg gregg  744903 2007-01-13 12:41 packagingguide.pdf
[11:28] <bruenig> wow
[11:28] <gregg> drwxr-xr-x  6 gregg gregg    4096 2007-01-13 15:11 share
[11:28] <gregg> -rw-r--r--  1 gregg gregg 9183730 2007-01-13 15:07 wine-0.9.19.tbz
[11:28] <xtknight> :/
[11:28] <bruenig> someone has to kill this
[11:28] <gregg> gregg@gregg-desktop:~/Desktop$
[11:28] <n2diy> !pastbin | gregg
[11:28] <erUSUL> gregg: please stop it
[11:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:29] <gregg> sorry everyone, I am new to this
[11:29] <n2diy> !pastebin | gregg
[11:29] <bakert> N6REJ, i don't know what phpgadmin is.  but assuming you have some PHP files that make up the application you just need to put them in a directory under /var/www
[11:29] <ubotu> gregg: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:29] <StraightShootin1> !pastebin
[11:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:29] <unclemike> bruenig, so fresh install is more secure
[11:29] <yosyp> Jowi: i think it's a good time for me to give up, no?
[11:29] <crazy2k_> Hello. I've installed mplayer and mplayer's plugin for mozilla but for some reason I still can't see WMV files embedded in pages. I can hear them though. Maybe a codec is missing?
[11:29] <xtknight> gregg: you pasted the right thing.  just use the pastebin URL next time
[11:29] <bakert> N6REJ, say you call the directory "admin".  then you can access the application at http://servername/admin/
[11:29] <compsman> on windows how do i connect to ubuntu the share folder?    any one?
[11:29] <Jowi> yosyp, i've helped set up 6 of these resolutions before on different intel chips and monitors. first time i've come across this. sorry.
[11:29] <beernutz> xtknight: thanks for the help!
[11:29] <junk1> straightshooting1 can i just save the drivers for teh wireless card shouldnt that let me use wireless??????
[11:29] <gregg> what is the pastebin and how do I use it
[11:29] <xtknight> !pastebin | gregg
[11:29] <ubotu> gregg: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:29] <yosyp> Jowi: that's cool, thanks for helping tho
[11:29] <n2diy> !pastebin | gregg
[11:29] <lovloss> oy #blender is quiet. doews anyone use blender here?
[11:30] <bruenig> unclemike, I have always gone fresh install because I am anal like that. So I may not be the most qualified. But to make sure nothing breaks, fresh install always seems best.
[11:30] <StraightShootin1> glench... you in a dorm, hotel, or cafe? or just sharing broadband with a neighbor?
[11:30] <Jowi> anytime yosyp
[11:30] <yosyp> Jowi: i'll look into maybe another distro to see if it's me or the driver
[11:30] <N6REJ> bakert: phppgadmin is the postgresQL web administration program.  I got it linked by now it says that php isn't designed to work with postgress and that I need to recompile.  Can I just add the postgres handler from synaptic?
[11:30] <xtknight> gregg: i think i told you the wrong cmd to extract it
[11:30] <mbiven> xtknight: Thanks! nothing in unstable, I think its tie for me to take a break and head to the pub
[11:30] <xtknight> gregg: some how you got the wrong file
[11:30] <yosyp> laters
[11:30] <gregg> ubotu:  how do I include the url
[11:30] <xtknight> gregg: or knoqueror downloaded it weird
[11:30] <Jowi> let me know how if you find something (send me a message on the server if I'm not available)
[11:30] <compsman> lol
[11:30] <bruenig> but then again starting from scratch could also be seen as total breakage, depends on your viewpoint. I just fear the nagging problem I can't track down at least fresh install I know everything that is happening
[11:31] <StraightShootin1> does anyone in here know how to set up the remote desktop ?
[11:31] <junk1> what channel do i need to go to for wireless help?
[11:31] <yosyp> k
[11:31] <unclemike> bruenig, guess ill agree...6.06 dident really take aslong as other distro's..ill go that way
[11:31] <Glench> StraightShootin1: there is no thernet for me to hook up to
[11:31] <xtknight> gregg: type:   'sudo apt-get install wget'
[11:31] <compsman> !bot | gregg
[11:31] <ubotu> gregg: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:31] <bruenig> !wifi | junk1
[11:31] <ubotu> junk1: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:31] <bakert> N6REJ, not sure.  but definitely worth trying.  is it php complaining?  if so, you might just be able to uncomment one of the lines in /etc/php.ini -- but yes install the postgres-php package (whatever it is calleD)
[11:31] <bruenig> wget is standard
[11:31] <junk1> what channel?????????
[11:31] <N6REJ> yes
[11:31] <bruenig> junk1, this channel
[11:32] <N6REJ> Your PHP installation does not support PostgreSQL. You need to recompile PHP using the --with-pgsql configure option.
[11:32] <gregg> xtknight:  I typed in the install wget
[11:32] <Glench> I'm trying to this laptop's wireless connection through the ethernet to my desktop computer which it's hooked up to. Anybody got any ideas on how to do that?
[11:32] <gregg> now what
[11:32] <StraightShootin1> glench... ok, i'll take that as law... you'd just have such an easier time with this if you could connect the ubuntu box somehow.. and I don't know much about bridging connections (in windows I'm guessing?) except for using Internet Connection Sharing... and even that I'm not familiar
[11:32] <bakert> N6REJ, hmm doesn't sound that good does it?  still you may find it changes it's tune if you install the right package.
[11:32] <junk1> ok the cd that came with the wireless card is in the laptop what do i need to save an were to get my wireless card working?????
[11:32] <xtknight> gregg: alright.  now we will download the file manually.  for some reason konqueror screwed up.  i wouldnt know, i dont use Kubuntu.  type: 'wget http://superb-west.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/wine/wine-0.9.29.tar.bz2'
[11:32] <compsman> on windows how do i login  to ubuntu the share folder?
[11:32] <Glench> thanks, StraightShootin1
[11:32] <mnoir> N6REJ: just a theory, but i think that is saying you need to rebuild :)
[11:32] <bakert> N6REJ, failing that you'll have to build php from source to get postgres support.  i can't believe that would be necessary though.
[11:33] <gregg> xtknight:  I am using ubuntu
[11:33] <N6REJ> k
[11:33] <xtknight> gregg: ok..is there a reason youre using Konqueror?
[11:33] <N6REJ> should I use php4 or php5?
[11:33] <N6REJ> so far only thing I see is php4-pgsql as installed
[11:33] <mnoir> N6REJ: if you do not NEED 4, go with 5
[11:33] <xtknight> gregg: firefox is generally preferable.  seems like konqueror handled the download weird and renamed it unexpectedly.
[11:33] <N6REJ> k
[11:33] <StraightShootin1> glench... good luck... do some searching on using Internet Connection Sharing... you may get it figuered out... once you're online on the ubuntu box, just add ndiswrapper-utils and ndisgtk from synaptic, and it will automatically install dependancies
[11:34] <bakert> N6REJ, did you install the php5-pgsql package and the pgppgadmin pacdkage?  i would go with those.  and yes php 5 so you can use that postgres package
[11:34] <Tox> hi is there any tool to install source automatically or directly from gzip ?
[11:34] <compsman> on windows how do i connect to  smb ubuntu the share folder? its asking user / password....
[11:34] <gregg> xtknight:  I tried to install kubuntu desktop and it added it
[11:34] <xtknight> gregg: actually.  sorry i think you downloaded the wrong file altogether.
[11:34] <JohnnyX_> synaptic gives me this error E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:34] <JohnnyX_> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[11:34] <idefix> xtnight editing the pnm2ppa.conf file doesn't enable access to lp0 in the dev directory
[11:34] <xtknight> gregg: did wget download it?
[11:34] <gregg> yes
[11:34] <xtknight> idefix: does printing a test page work though?
[11:34] <mnoir> Tox: what do you mean automatically?
[11:34] <JohnnyX_> how do i fix it?
[11:34] <xtknight> gregg: ok.  type 'tar -xjvf wine-0.9.29...'
[11:34] <gregg> I did the terminal download as you described, what now
[11:34] <junk1> what do i need to save for the wireless to work?
[11:35] <bakert> JohnnyX_, what happens if you run $ sudo aptitude update in a terminal?
[11:35] <xiq> i once read about a linux command line utility that could report things like whether a given ethernet port had a cable connected to it or not. anyone know what it's called?
[11:35] <idefix> xtnight no
[11:35] <bakert> JohnnyX_, what happens if you run "sudo aptitude update" in a terminal?
[11:35] <compsman> !say  on windows how do i connect to  smb ubuntu the share folder? its asking user / password....
[11:35] <felix_> yo there, I got a ubuntu here with two soundcards, one onboard and one audigy, I got sound on the onboard, but the audigy is dead, what do I do?
[11:35] <adop> tox: apt-get?
[11:35] <Tox> i mean using GUI
[11:35] <xtknight> gregg: also lets remove the old version.  'rm wine-0.9.19.tbz'
[11:35] <compsman>  on windows how do i connect to  smb ubuntu the share folder? its asking user / password....
[11:35] <xtknight> idefix: sorry, i'm not sure where to go from there
[11:35] <JohnnyX_> aptitude not found bakert
[11:35] <nrdb> xiq: is netstat what you are looking for ?
[11:36] <bakert> JohnnyX_, ok what about "sudo apt-get update"
[11:36] <idefix> xtnight, all we need to fix is allowal of permission on lp0
[11:36] <gregg> xtknight:  thanks
[11:36] <Tox> i bored, downloaded source and can't install it
[11:36] <JohnnyX_> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[11:36] <JohnnyX_> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[11:36] <gregg> xtknight:  I did what you suggested
[11:36] <mnoir> Tox: source means 1. you download and untar it. 2. you build it according to the enclosed instructions 3. you install it according to the enclosed instructions. For step 3 i recommend looking at checkinstall
[11:36] <xtknight> idefix: are you really sure it isn't a deeper problem?  i can tell you how to do that though if you think itll fix it
[11:36] <junk1> i guit i no i need the ini or inf or something for the card to work i just dont no what
[11:36] <gregg> xtknight:  now what
[11:36] <xiq> nrdb: no, it would report low level stuff like link status. before you had actually brought up the network device.
[11:36] <compsman> hello
[11:36] <compsman> ?
[11:36] <idefix> please tell me xtknight..
[11:36] <xtknight> gregg: alright.  now change into the extracted wine source.  this type there should be a folder
[11:36] <Tox> ok if theres no checkinstall ?
[11:36] <noobcook> how do you decompile flash on ubuntu?
[11:36] <compsman> any one hear me?
[11:36] <mnoir> Tox: then you install it
[11:37] <xtknight> idefix: sudo chown `whoami`:`whoami` /dev/lp0  && sudo chmod 777 /dev/lp0
[11:37] <Tox> look at this plz : http://www.kde-apps.org/content/download.php?content=22605&id=1
[11:37] <Jowi> compsman, man smbpasswd
[11:37] <gregg> xtknight:  how do I do this again
[11:37] <xtknight> gregg: 'cd' is change directory.   type    cd wine...
[11:37] <nrdb> xiq: how about 'ifconfig -a'
[11:37] <jrib> noobcook: flasm?
[11:38] <JohnnyX_> bakert, now it gives Fetched 6B in 8s (1B/s)
[11:38] <JohnnyX_> Reading package lists... Done
[11:38] <xiq> nrdb: just found it, "mii-diag"
[11:38] <gregg> xtkight:  okay I am there
[11:38] <xiq> nrdb: or mii-tool, maybe..
[11:38] <bakert> JohnnyX_, does it come back to a $ prompt without complaining?
[11:38] <mnoir> Tox: that is a bzipped tarfile - why am i looking at it?
[11:38] <xtknight> gregg: ok good.  now remember that article?   start again where it says LDFLAGS.......  and you should be good to go for a while
[11:38] <riotkittie> yay. i have  ttys.
[11:38] <gregg> xtknight:  I have the file on my desktop
[11:39] <Tox> can u look inside and explain how to install it ?
[11:39] <JohnnyX_> well i just tried to install xubuntu and it gave the same error message bakert
[11:39] <xtknight> gregg: use copy dont type the commands manually.  its easy to screw up on the commands
[11:39] <idefix> xtknight why not sudo chown `whoami` /dev/lp0  && sudo chmod 777 /dev/lp0  ?
[11:39] <felix_> is there anyone who can help troubleshoot a soundproblem? I got an Audigy-card with no sound
[11:39] <noobcook> jrib is it in the debs
[11:39] <mnoir> !source |  Tox this will explain it better than i can
[11:39] <xtknight> gregg: thats fine.  just continue on what youre doing in the terminal.
[11:39] <ubotu> Tox this will explain it better than i can: You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[11:39] <gizmo_the_great1> Hi. I am a tad confused. I have a couple of laptops and a desktop. I want to enable file sharing between them all using, I assume, NFS. When I right click a folder I can select sharing and choose various NFS options. But I cannot find the shared folders on the other machines.  All the How To seem quite complicated using 'exportfs' etc. Is there not an easier, more straight forward way?
[11:39] <Tox> i tried everything configure make make install it does not work
[11:39] <bakert> JohnnyX_, gave the same error through apt-get?  Or you mean you went back to the graphical installer?
[11:39] <jrib> !info flasm | noobcook
[11:39] <ubotu> flasm: assembler and disassembler for Flash (SWF) bytecode. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.61-1 (edgy), package size 85 kB, installed size 276 kB
[11:39] <riotkittie> ooh. maybe it has something to do with my battery and adapter, and not the cards.
[11:39] <xtknight> idefix: chown  user:user completely makes the user own the file
[11:39] <xtknight> idefix: so   chown `whoami`:`whoami`
[11:39] <gregg> xtknight:  thanks I am pulling up the terminal now
[11:39] <mnoir> tox - sorry - wrong bit
[11:39] <mnoir> sec
[11:40] <JohnnyX_> same error through apt-get
[11:40] <adop> felix_: paste dmesg
[11:40] <nrdb> xiq: looks handy I will have to try and remember that one.
[11:40] <up365> felix_: use this link http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449 it helped me with SB Live setup
[11:40] <xtknight> gregg: make sure you're in the extracted directory.  you just typed cd wine-0.9.29  right?  make sure the terminal is in that directory and go on with LDFLAGS....
[11:40] <Tox> ok ill try to find it on apt-get
[11:40] <Tox> wot's wrong ?
[11:40] <idefix> xtknight so the current user can grab every file then!
[11:40] <mnoir> !build | Tox GO HERE! -
[11:40] <ubotu> Tox GO HERE! -: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:40] <gregg>  xtknight: yes I need to get the help file up from net
[11:40] <xtknight> idefix: not every file, just /dev/lp0
[11:40] <xtknight> gregg: http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit#head-56206e8bc74083807ffe06ccb471d3f964cb670a
[11:40] <xiq> nrdb: it's easy to forget ;)
[11:41] <Tox> tnx mnoir!
[11:41] <riotkittie> what do you mean configure / make / make install didnt work... "command not founds" ?
[11:41] <idefix> ok, so a device that's not owned by me can never be opened by me? (just checking, should be yes,=..)
[11:41] <xtknight> idefix: um not necessarily true
[11:41] <mnoir> Tox: once you look at that come back for questions :)
[11:41] <xtknight> idefix: im not sure to be honest
[11:41] <xtknight> idefix: but this is the sure-fire way
[11:41] <Pie-rate> no sound - confirmed NOT A HARDWARE ISSUE (knoppix works perfectly). just stopped working recently, not sure what changed. HELP!!! alsamixer appears to be set up fine.
[11:41] <xtknight> idefix: did you try   sudo modprobe ppdev?
[11:41] <riotkittie> ok. now to repeat my question. :P
[11:41] <gregg> xtknight: it is running
[11:41] <Tox> think i wait for a while with my questions :)
[11:41] <ziggityzag> can anyone help me set up a wireless network using network manager? it only detects the wired network and not the wireless.
[11:42] <xtknight> gregg: ok.  itll be 30 mins while the PC compiles the Wine project.
[11:42] <mnoir> tox :)
[11:42] <lovloss> does *anyone* in here know how to do physics in blender3d? why cant all chat rooms be as good as this one :P
[11:42] <nrdb> xiq: a lot of linux command are :( one thing that doesn't help is that there are so many of them
[11:42] <gregg> xtknight:  compiling the file
[11:42] <Rprp> Well, my sound is coming again 3/4 seconds later if im gaming, I installed libopenal0a, alsa-oss, etc... no other music progs are running, so. whats wrong?
[11:42] <N6REJ> bakert: I'll look for the php5-pg file.  i don't know if I picked that one or not.
[11:42] <Tox> but someday ill back :)
[11:42] <StraightShootin1> ....
[11:42] <macluvjay> can I ask a gnome specific question in here?
[11:42] <Tox> maybe in a couple of mins lol
[11:42] <Jowi> idefix, yes. unless you set the rw permissions for groups or others.
[11:43] <Jowi> idefix, generally speaking
[11:43] <StraightShootin1> anyone in here using ati radeon 9250?
[11:43] <mnoir> !ask | macluvjay
[11:43] <ubotu> macluvjay: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:43] <n2diy> ! dev
[11:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:43] <felix_> adop, http://pastebin.ca/315807
[11:43] <macluvjay> there are two .xml files in ~/.nautilus...
[11:44] <felix_> up365, I'm looking
[11:44] <JohnnyX_> how do i restart X?
[11:44] <bakert> N6REJ, it's called "php5-pgsql" on dapper at least
[11:44] <riotkittie> I have a laptop. For the most part, I am on a wired connection, plugged in, using an external keyboard and CRT. If I disconnect everything, and opt to bask in the sweet goodness that is mobility, I run into issues - GNOME wont fully load, and the /only/ tty that works is 7
[11:44] <xtknight> JohnnyX_: go to a virtual terminal (ctrl+alt+f1) .  login then type this  'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[11:44] <varsendaggr> howdo i reset all the networking aspects of my computer to default?
[11:44] <n2diy> JohnnyX_: ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:45] <xtknight> JohnnyX_: this will kill all open apps by the way
[11:45] <bakert> JohnnyX_, "System, Shut Down, Log out".  Or in an emergency Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[11:45] <xtknight> JohnnyX_: you can also do ctrl alt bksp
[11:45] <Jowi> idefix, for example "ls -la /dev/dsp" it should be owned by root and the audio group. its permissions are crw-rw---- which means that the owner and the group has read/write permissions. only members of the audio group and root can use it.
[11:45] <riotkittie> 1-6 are just blinking cursors  with no ability to log in. 8 shows nothing until i alt-ctrl-delete, then the shutdown dialogues appear
[11:45] <EnsignRedshirt> I am using Firefox 1.5.0.9 in Ubuntu Dapper.  I have an mplayer plugin that plays some media files. Is it possible to configure it so that mplayer starts its own window? For example, when I click on "Listen" at http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6849583, it changes to an mplayer page.  I would like mplayer to do its thing in a separate window.
[11:46] <StraightShootin1> glench any luck yet?
[11:46] <xtknight> EnsignRedshirt: not sure.  try right clicking and finding mplayer-plugin settings and maybe there's an option?
[11:46] <Jowi> idefix, was that clear enough?
[11:46] <gregg> xtknight:  how do I find my other hda so that I can access the files from ubuntu
[11:46] <mnoir> riotkittie: but 7 works as normal?
[11:47] <idefix> thanks Jowi
[11:47] <DiOXin> can I get some help here..?
[11:47] <xtknight> !ask | DiOXin
[11:47] <ubotu> DiOXin: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:47] <ziggityzag> why doesn't network manager only detect the wired network and not the wireless?
[11:47] <Berke^> hi
[11:47] <riotkittie> mnoir: yes, GDM loads there.
[11:47] <giuseppe> hi
[11:47] <mnoir> riotkittie: 6.06  or 6.10 ?
[11:47] <xtknight> gregg: type 'sudo fdisk -l'  in another unused terminal
[11:47] <Berke^> is there any turk
[11:47] <riotkittie> mnoir: 6.06
[11:47] <DiOXin> my ubuntu has no sound..:/
[11:47] <idefix> Jowi xtnight, doesn't the /dev/lp0 device need to be mounted to a directory something in /media ?
[11:47] <ziggityzag> sorry, typo... why does network manager only detect the wired network and not the wireless?
[11:47] <EnsignRedshirt> xtknight: Right-clicking doesn't seem to get a useful menu.  That "Listen" button" runs some javascript, which then loads the media file (a .rm file, I think).
[11:47] <giuseppe> can I ask you one thing?
[11:48] <xtknight> idefix: i really don't think so
[11:48] <giuseppe> who can help me?
[11:48] <DiOXin> I have tried everything, yes the alsamixer and modprobe and so on.
[11:48] <felix_> adop, can it be used? I have an onboard soundcard too
[11:48] <dwhsix> hmm... running Firefox 1.5.0.9, now it crashes when I try to log in to the Bank of America web site to access my account (as it's loading the SiteKey page)
[11:48] <riotkittie> if i don't shutdown between switching to battery power and wireless, things are perfectly normal. but. thats not always an option :P
[11:48] <dwhsix> should I be worried? was fine last week...
[11:48] <dwhsix> thoughts?
[11:48] <mnoir> riotkittie: oh - I see - my lt is 6.10 so i cannot reproduce.  I suspect some network stuff is not working or timing out correctly.  hv you tried altering interfaces to only bring up l0?
[11:48] <xtknight> EnsignRedshirt: sorry, not sure
[11:49] <Jowi> idefix, what type of device is lp0? it's a printer, no?
[11:49] <idefix> Jowi, yes
[11:49] <mnoir> riotkittie: that is "ell"zero
[11:49] <giuseppe> are there italian boys?
[11:49] <xtknight> !it | giuseppe
[11:49] <ubotu> giuseppe: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:49] <Jowi> idefix, you normally don't mount printers (never heard of it anyway).
[11:49] <idefix> xtnight, but all the other mount /dev/bla media/bla commands make one think it ought to
[11:49] <giuseppe> sorry
[11:50] <Jordan_U> riotkittie: Have you tried sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart when you loose wireless?
[11:50] <xtknight> idefix: printers are different than media
[11:50] <gregg> xtknight:  after I typed that it gave me some info on hdrvs.  what now?
[11:50] <killown> how I to view apps install?
[11:50] <giuseppe> excuse me
[11:50] <xtknight> gregg: do you see your windows driev?  youre trying to mount windows right?
[11:50] <idefix> cat telnrs lp0, is that a good command to run?
[11:50] <giuseppe> how can I go on ubuntu.it?
[11:50] <adop> felix_: you shouldn't have any problem using it.
[11:50] <xtknight> giuseppe: /join #ubuntu-it
[11:50] <Forbin> hello ubuntu helpers
[11:51] <giuseppe> where?
[11:51] <xtknight> giuseppe: just type that command
[11:51] <Jordan_U> killown: Applicaions -> Add/Remove ?
[11:51] <Forbin> can I ask a noob question?
[11:51] <giuseppe> thanks
[11:51] <mnoir> giuseppe: freenode
[11:51] <xtknight> !ask | Forbin
[11:51] <ubotu> Forbin: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:51] <adop> felix_: can u see it in the mixer?
[11:51] <compsman> whats the user name for windows to smb with to get to share folders?
[11:51] <bosko> Hi, I just downloaded the newest version of Ubuntu Desktop and tried to boot up/install it, and it begins loading but it seems to hang at the last chunk of the loading bar. It doesn't even seem to keep reading the CD, just sits there. any idea what could be wrong?
[11:51] <riotkittie> Jordan_U: i am not losing wireless. i'm losing TTY 1-6 ... and the ability to have GNOME load more than the panel with about 10% of the panel icons
[11:51] <Forbin> soryy
[11:51] <felix_> adop, weird, I got no sound at all, and I can't get any by using alsamixer
[11:51] <killown> Jordan_U  but I use kde
[11:51] <aurynn> is there anywhere I can get a wpa_supplicant built with hermesI-II support for PPC?
[11:51] <xtknight> idefix: i have no idea what that does
[11:51] <felix_> adop, not sure how I switch in the mixer
[11:51] <DiOXin> help me with my sound. I reinstalled ubuntu and now its not working. Tried the alsamixer, modprobe, I've cheched that all the cables are inte the right place and so on.. Ubuntu does find the soundcard, but no sound comming out!
[11:51] <Forbin> I seem to have killed my /home/forbin directory. How do I get it back?
[11:51] <beem> First time linux user here. I've been trying to install ubuntu on my laptop. it has been stuck for a long time on the partioning section ( around 40minutes ) is this normal?
[11:51] <felix_> adop, but in the default I can't
[11:51] <gregg> xtknight: I see it i think - it is 160 gig drive verses the 20 gig for ubuntu
[11:52] <Jordan_U> killown: #kubuntu to talk to KDE guys :)
[11:52] <xtknight> gregg: ubuntu didn't detect it by default?   maybe it's called /media/hda something
[11:52] <N6REJ> bakert: got it.. .we're configuring pg now :D  thanks!
[11:52] <ReleaseX> I used the directions at ubuntuguide to install the beta nvidia drivers, and they worked fine until i did an upgrade this morning, now i get an error that my card isn't supported by the new drivers
[11:52] <adop> felix_: are you using ubuntu?
[11:52] <riotkittie> brb. toddler attacking.
[11:52] <compsman> whats the user name for windows to smb with to get to share folders?
[11:52] <idefix> xtknight, cat file lp0, is that a good command to run, wil that make my printer print the file?
[11:52] <felix_> adop, yep :)
[11:52] <xtknight> idefix: i have no idea
[11:52] <mnoir> riotkittie: i asked whether you have tried disabling the auto start of eth interfaces...
[11:52] <Arigato> how do I defrag my ubuntu partition?
[11:52] <bakert> N6REJ, glad to hear it
[11:53] <gregg> xtknight:  what do I do?
[11:53] <steelb> whats the command to see all the drives connected to the comp... like fdisk -l?
[11:53] <adop> felix_: from the file menu select file-> change device
[11:53] <Jordan_U>  !defrag | Arigato But it usually isn't nessisary
[11:53] <ubotu> Arigato But it usually isn't nessisary: defragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.
[11:53] <xtknight> steelb: needs a 'sudo ' though
[11:53] <xtknight> steelb: sudo fdisk -l
[11:53] <felix_> adop, if it was gentoo I would've just disabled the support for the other card in the alsa-driver package, but I'm a noob at ubuntu :p
[11:53] <Arigato> !defrag
[11:53] <ubotu> defragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.
[11:53] <Forbin> or at least, how do i log into a shell as root when gnome won't start?
[11:53] <xtknight> gregg: check in the file explorer.  see if you see something on the left called /media/hda or similar
[11:53] <compsman> whats the user name for windows to smb with to get to share folders?
[11:54] <bakert> steelb, or you might find "df -h" useful?
[11:54] <gizmo_the_great1> I am using the command 'sudo chown ted Mounts/vfat' to chown a fat partition mounted at 'vfat' from root to ted. But it saying 'chown: changing ownership of `Mounts/vfat': Operation not permitted'. Any ideas?
[11:54] <jawee> does anyone here know the software that, once you have logged in, it displays Tux the penguin and the system specs beside it, then gives you the console
[11:54] <adop> felix_: so you don't want to use the onboard card at all?
[11:54] <Colossus> Jowi: I solved the problem! It needed me to press Fn+F7.
[11:54] <jawee> well, assuming you log in without a login manager or going to X
[11:54] <felix_> adop, not sure, not my box, but the audigy is primary
[11:54] <toulouse> anyone know anything about gettting dual monitors to work?
[11:54] <xtknight> jawee: probably another linux distro?
[11:54] <Jordan_U> !info defrag if you really want to | Arigato
[11:54] <ubotu> defrag: ext2, minix and xiafs filesystem defragmenter. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.73pjm1-7 (edgy), package size 66 kB, installed size 208 kB
[11:55] <riotkittie> mnoir:  no. i will give that a go next time i do that though
[11:55] <gregg> xtknight:  sorry for the dumb question but where is the file explorer?
[11:55] <xtknight> gregg: press Places->Home at the top
[11:55] <mnoir> riotkittie: :)
[11:55] <aurynn> Any luck at all getting a hermes driver for a macppc laptop?
[11:55] <xtknight> gregg: now look on the left side.  do you see anything called 'hda'?
[11:55] <Ropechoborra> How can i make user to have all the root access ?
[11:55] <ReleaseX> I used the directions at ubuntuguide to install the beta nvidia drivers, and they worked fine until i did an upgrade this morning, now i get an error that my card isn't supported by the new drivers
[11:55] <gregg> xtknight:  no
[11:56] <DiOXin> plz.... do you have any idea what it feels like to be out of music |cry|
[11:56] <xtknight> gregg: what is your windows partition? /dev/hda1?
[11:56] <AdamKrier> Greetings. Does anyone know how i can turn off sound juicer starting automatically when i put in an audio cd. Similarly I would like to disable Rhythmbox from starting when i plug in my ipod.
[11:56] <gregg> xtknight:  i believe it is or it is hda2
[11:56] <idefix> Jowi and xtknight thanks allthought the problem still remains
[11:56] <idefix> -t
[11:56] <SHRIKEE> hi, can anyone help me with an onboard cardreader? (laptop)
[11:56] <CorpseFeeder> help! how do I re allocate swap space? My swap space vanished and I had to use gparted off the install cd to reformat the swap space, but it still is not showing up in ubuntu? How do I tell ubuntu to use the swap space?
[11:56] <Forbin> if i do a new install off of the live cd, will it overwrite all my conf files (xorg.conf in particular)?
[11:56] <xtknight> CorpseFeeder: sudo swapon /dev/hdx   where /dev/hdx is your swap partition
[11:57] <CorpseFeeder> thanks
[11:57] <SHRIKEE> Forbin, i think it formats your harddisk if you choose to
[11:57] <Forbin> darn
[11:57] <SHRIKEE> Can anyone help me with an onboard cardreader? (laptop)
[11:57] <xtknight> gregg: go into another terminal.  type  'sudo mkdir -p /media/hda1'   you need to know if it is hda1 or hda2 though
[11:57] <Jordan_U>  Forbin: Why are you re-installing ?
[11:57] <SHRIKEE> forbin you can also choose to do your own partitioning...
[11:57] <adop> felix_: you can add an entry in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist file
[11:57] <Forbin> i screwed up permissions, can't get to /home/forbin, any ideas?
[11:58] <junk1> can any one help me?
[11:58] <riotkittie> Forbin: back the important configs up :P
[11:58] <xiq> CorpseFeeder: and more permanently, add it to your /etc/fstab, eg "/dev/hda2 none swap sw 0 0"
[11:58] <aurynn> Any documentation at all on building wpa_supplicant for an iBook?
[11:58] <riotkittie> Forbin: sudo and change them?
[11:58] <bakert> Forbin, "sudo chmod 755 /home/forbin" ??
[11:58] <felix_> adop, that's a possibility, though can't I just change witch one is the default?
[11:58] <beem> First time linux user here. I've been trying to install ubuntu on my laptop. it has been stuck for a long time on the partioning section ( around 50minutes ) is this normal? i couldve installed win2000 a few times by now ^^
[11:58] <Forbin> i can't get an X session started, how do i get a shell before the login manager?
[11:59] <dwhsix> weird - how do I figure out if I'm running 6.06 or 6.10, when System | About Ubuntu doesn't work?
[11:59] <dwhsix> I get "could not launch menu item"
[11:59] <stefg> !version
[11:59] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[11:59] <bakert> beem, no not normal.
[11:59] <p00fieus_maximus> How can I tell if my husband has been surfing for porn? TIA :)
[11:59] <junk1> lol beem
[11:59] <CorpseFeeder> ok thank s xiq
[11:59] <dwhsix> stefg: thanks
[11:59] <riotkittie> beem: how large is the drive? is it a blank drive? chock full of data? processor speed?
[11:59] <bakert> beem, has it given any error message at all or just paused?
[11:59] <Jordan_U> beem: No, that isn't normall, I would check the CD or try the !alternate CD
[11:59] <AdamKrier> Greetings. Does anyone know how i can turn off sound juicer starting automatically when i put in an audio cd. Similarly I would like to disable Rhythmbox from starting when i plug in my ipod.
[11:59] <dwhsix> ok - so I'm at 6.06... any reason *not* to upgrade to 6.10?
[11:59] <Ropechoborra> How can i add a user to sudoers list in order to be as a root ?
[12:00] <riotkittie> can you hear any HD activity going on? does it look like its totally inactive
[12:00] <xipietotec> ##ubuntu forewards back here
[12:00] <junk1> riotkittie it did me the same way i ended up with an older ubuntu
[12:00] <Ropechoborra> dwhsix guess none ;)
[12:00] <Jordan_U> dwhsix: Some people have had problems upgrading to 6.10
[12:00] <riotkittie> dwhsix: because 6.06 is sweet, like candy
[12:00] <aurynn> p00fieus_maximus, assume it will happen. Life goes on.
[12:00] <Ropechoborra> lol
[12:00] <Ropechoborra> You must see Feisty then
[12:00] <Ropechoborra> :P
[12:00] <Forbin> alternatively, since the live cd won't mount my hda, how do i do that? so i can chmod the /home/forbin?
[12:01] <dwhsix> k, then maybe I'll stick on 6.06... I don't feel like staying up all night :-)
[12:01] <beem> riotkittie/bakert, 30gb, recently formatted during a 2000 server edition install, 2.09ghz processor speed / no error message, cd drive and hard drive still working hard
[12:01] <riotkittie> Ropechoborra: you need to run the visudo command to edit the sudoers list. DO NOT EDIT /ETC/SUDOERS with anything BUT visudo