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linux-macthere must be some thign wrong here12:15
linux-macthing*12:15
malik_okiu found it how to do in yahoo mail help12:15
revolution27linux-mac: that never happened to me12:15
leiarhow do i install thunderbird?12:15
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revolution27my apps always show up after i install12:15
linux-macwell how u get programs u installed to show afther on desk and k menu revolution ?12:15
todd_leiar, use synaptic12:16
linux-maccouse here it dosen't12:16
linux-maci nead reboot12:16
linux-macto show em12:16
leiartodd: I use apt-get ..12:16
spitwiselinux-mac: that only has happened to me with one app12:16
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linux-macmaby some thing is wrong then couse does to every one here to me12:17
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JP_P_homehello12:17
linux-maci rember suse and fedora doing it in auto12:17
JP_P_homestdin> i have some news for my network printer12:18
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intelikeythat oddity may only be reproducable on tty1   i haven't gotten it to work on other tty's    still testing.12:18
JP_P_homeall i try to print become blocked in the job list12:18
todd_leiar, I like how synaptic gets everything to make each package work, so I stopped using apt-get12:18
willhow do I test my video card?12:19
willIts still alggy12:19
willWhere is a video card driver database?12:19
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aseigobut then, i hate dialog boxes12:19
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aseigoand arrows hiding important bits of the interface12:19
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dawnlol12:20
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todd_yeah, yer right12:20
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dawnI have a new Dell dimension C521 ~$350 NEw that I just installed Edgy onto, took like a charm12:21
todd_I'm gonna go type some text into my konsole now and probably break something12:21
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intelikeytodd_ not as likely if you start with  echo << EOF12:23
leiartodd: Instelled synaptic. Looks greate.12:23
revolution27i'm about to pick my brain out cell by cell... this nvidia problem is driving me up the wall12:23
intelikey!ati12:24
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:24
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revolution27or maybe i'll just  post on the forums12:24
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revolution27intellikey:believe me i've been through that link many times12:24
I-04question:  i compiled gaim 2.0beta5 by myself, but adept thinks the 1.5 version in the repos is "newer" how can i prevent it from installing 1.5 over beta5 when i dist-upgrade?12:25
intelikeyok.   believe me, i never install propritary software12:25
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leiartodd: I insstalled thunderbird in synaptic. I chose my language, which is Norwegian, but got it in English. Thunderbird-locale-nb. Any comment to enlighten me?12:26
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todd_hmmmm, sorry, unfortunately no comment12:29
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todd_dinnertime, bye12:33
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Mofassahey hey12:46
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MofassaI'm not sure if anyone can help me here - but I'm currently running a tablet pc - and am thinking of trying out a linux distro...have done some googling, but just wondering if anyone's had experience with it12:47
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francoishey all, i keep forgeting which nvidia drivers i should be using from the site, the IA32, or the IA64 ?12:49
K`zanANyone oknow where the mplayer additional codecs (essential-20061022.tar.bz2) go under ubuntu?12:50
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fdovingfrancois: ia32 i belive.. if you don't have a 64bit super processor.12:51
francoisfdoving: ok thanks, much ablidged12:51
francoisi just upgraded to the latest packages, and now wine crashed my display, anyone else have the same problem ?12:52
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toulousehey guys, when i boot up, my filesystem check fails what should i do???12:58
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K`zan/usr/local/lib/win32 and xv works!!01:00
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hermannihello01:02
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hermannihow can i listen mp3 usin ubuntu01:03
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ScarFreewill!cli01:03
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands01:03
pat__!mp301:03
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:03
pat__!ipod01:03
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto01:03
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hermannithanx'01:08
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snowrichardtstorms -- bye01:09
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drbairI'm looking to install kubuntu on a premade LVM2 on RAID0 setup. Can the standard kubuntu or server installer do this?01:12
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joecoderhow to create a symbolic link in konqueror?01:15
arkanabarI'm about to install, and would like suggestions on which directories should have their own partitions.01:15
joecodernot just a shortuct link, but actually take a folder and make it expandable?01:15
intelikeyjoecoder mmm use the terminal emulator feature ?01:16
joecoderI thought I've done it before through the gui01:16
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intelikeyjoecoder maybe so....   cli is so easy there.   ln -s /path/name /path/linkname01:17
joecoderthanks01:17
intelikeynot saying that konq can't do it.  i just wouldn't know howto01:18
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e1did the newest beryl svn update remove .jpg support?01:23
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Hobbseee1: ask in #beryl01:26
arkanabarsomebody suggested that root and /home deserved separate partitions, and maybe boot as well.  Any opinions?01:27
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frootstripehi ppl - i need to uninstall a mozilla thunderbird extension, but i can01:32
frootstripefind the extensions folders01:33
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arkanabarShould I have separate partitions for /home, /boot, and /01:34
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kkosmo!mp301:41
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arkanabar!boot partition01:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about boot partition - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:43
arkanabar!/home01:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about home - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:43
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arkanabar#join ubuntu01:46
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jmichaelxcan anyone tell me if they know of a good graphical calculator for linux? i need one for a pre-calc class i am taking01:47
jmichaelxi should have said 'graphing calculator'01:48
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jmichaelxhave any had problems with broadcom wireless adapters after upgrading to edgy?01:52
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intelikeyjmichaelx apt-cache search calculator01:53
jmichaelxintelikey: does that just search the enabled repos?01:54
intelikeyyes01:54
jmichaelxok... i was looking through them earlier, and did not see anything that looked like a graphing calculator, although i may have missed it/them01:55
intelikeymay not be anything but that's the way to check.  if i had the info on hand i'd share it with you.01:56
jmichaelxonce again, i appreciate the help, intelikey01:57
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intelikeyof the 79 things that lists only a few look like they might be related to what you are looking for.01:59
intelikeygraphmonkey - a GTK#-based graphing calculator02:00
intelikeylibticalcs4 - provides functions to communicate with TI calculators02:00
sleepy423!java02:00
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository02:00
intelikeysc - Text-based spreadsheet with VI-like keybindings02:00
intelikeysnac - complete algebraic calculator for GNOME02:00
jmichaelxintelikey: ty i had just found and installed graphmonkey :-D02:00
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Rob-Westhttp://img398.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1010003wu2.jpg02:05
Rob-Westthats not a porn link02:06
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NDPowerBookRob-West: So whats going on in that pic?02:09
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phillijwi set up my wifi with ndiswrapper butu when I do iwlist eth1 scan it says no scan results02:12
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jaguar#kubuntu-es02:15
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bartisthello everybody02:20
leiarpart02:20
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bartistmy pc's sound is messed up02:20
bartistsometimes it works, sometimes it don't02:20
phillijwwhere can I get kubuntu support02:20
phillijwthis doenst seem to be the right place02:21
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soulriderhi02:21
bartistI've tried this: sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils02:21
intelikeyphillijw why is this not the right place ?02:21
intelikey!sound | bartist02:22
ubotubartist: If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin02:22
soulriderbartist: you can also do "sudo aptitude purg <packages>"02:22
bartistfollowed by this: sudo apt-get install linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils02:22
soulriderhey intelikey, hows it going ?02:22
intelikeywell02:22
intelikeyand you02:22
bartistsudo aptitude purg = sudo apt-get --purge?02:23
soulrideryes bartist02:23
soulriderim good intelikey :)02:23
intelikeybartist yes.     and so you've reinstalled the apps  try the link ^02:23
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phillijwi set up my wifi with ndiswrapper butu when I do iwlist eth1 scan it says no scan results02:23
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bartistwell the purge and reinstall usualy worked for me02:23
bartistbut not now02:24
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intelikey!wifi | phillijw02:24
ubotuphillijw: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:24
intelikeybeen there ^ ?02:24
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joshyanyone here uses vmware workstation02:28
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phillijwi've looked at that documentation02:28
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joshyi've get a n error messege when i want to start a virtual machine02:29
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joshyUnable to change virtual machine power state: Failed to connect to peer process.02:29
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intelikeyphillijw with any luck you might help in #ubuntu   there isn't anyone here right now.  seems that this is the quietest i've ever seen this channel.02:30
phillijwya :\02:30
phillijwWAKE UPPPPPPPPPPPhehehe02:30
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TuuBBWas wondering if anyone could help. I'm trying to install Kubuntu for dual-booting with XP. I've got XP installed on the first primary partition (ntfs, 30gb), I then allocated for a 130ish gb FAT32 partition (that I'd like to be accessible from both OSs). I tried to install Kubuntu on the remainding unpartitioned space - all seemed fine during install process - but it gave me an error (17 iirc) when trying to select ubuntu from grub02:44
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TuuBBI'm sure there's a simpler way to implement what it is that I'm wanting to do: XP, Kubuntu, media/data - any pointers?02:45
bubu1ukTuuBB: is it hda harddrive? all partitions on one disk?02:45
TuuBBIt's a SATA drive, all partitions on the one disk02:46
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phillijwanyone know how to turn my wireless on with a dell inspiron 8600. i think my key combos are being blcoked by kubuntu02:46
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TuuBBAny ideas, bubu1uk?02:50
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bubu1ukTuuBB: not really, dont know much bout SATA. had similar problem with external hdd (either that i dont remember exact error i got). but dont know much bout ur problem.03:01
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TuuBBAh ok, ty anyway03:01
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K`zankuickshow - not in ubuntu ?!?03:09
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K-RyanHey guys, I just installed Kubuntu on my slave, whenever I boot up without the live cd, it gives me a grub 18 error03:12
K-RyanWhat's wrong and how do I fix it? =(03:12
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K-RyanAnyone know what Grub 18 error is?03:13
K-RyanI get it on startup03:13
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K-RyanHello? Anyone know what grub 18 error is?03:15
K-RyanAnyone at all?03:16
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K-RyanCan nobody help me?03:16
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K-RyanHelloooooooooooo!? Grub 18 error, anyone?03:18
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arkanabarThe channel doesn't really pay too much attention right now.03:21
K-RyanWhy not?03:21
K-RyanI got all the help in the world last night at 1 in the morning.03:21
arkanabarI've asked a couple of times about multiple partitions for /home and /boot and /root but got no response03:22
arkanabarI get the feeling that most of the users are actually just botted in right now and not reading the channel03:22
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K-RyanFound what my problem is03:23
K-RyanHow I'm going to fix it I have no f'ing idea. =(03:23
K-Ryanarkanabar do you know how I could make a small /boot partition?03:24
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bubu1ukK-Ryan: what u mean small /boot partition? same way as any other partion03:25
bubu1uk*partition03:25
arkanabarThe question I have is how do I tell the installer to put /boot or /home or / onto separate partitions?03:26
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bubu1ukarkanabar: in installer u choosed to manually create partitions?03:26
K-RyanSorry went to ask my friend if he knew.03:26
K-RyanWell my problem is a Grub 18 error03:27
K-Ryanhttp://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/GRUB#Error_1803:27
DaSkreechHeeeelllloooo :)03:27
K-RyanI'm not positive what that solution wants me to do.03:27
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arkanabarActually, I haven't installed yet.  This is a new machine with a Win2k partition that I can't get to connect....03:28
arkanabarI did use manual partitions on the old machine, but I figured I'd do the guided setup this time.03:28
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K-RyanI did too...03:29
K-RyanHrmm, reinstall I guess03:29
K-RyanBut how could I make a boot, and a partition for just stuff?03:29
arkanabarbubu1uk?03:29
bubu1ukK-Ryan: according to that wiki page, i think u just have to setup /boot partition within first 1023 cylinders.03:29
K-RyanWhat do the cylinders mean?03:29
bubu1ukK-Ryan: so somewhere in beginnin of hdd.03:29
K-RyanI'm good with a computer, but I'm not positive what that means03:29
K-RyanIt should be in the beginning I did the guided setup thing03:30
K-RyanAnd it's complete Kubuntu03:30
K-RyanNothing else03:30
bubu1ukarkanabar: if u'll go for quided setup, i think it will create only swap and /03:30
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K-RyanSo I'm going to open up the installer again, any tips?03:30
K-RyanBesides manually setting this up03:30
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arkanabarthanks.  How would I get the manual setup to actually use the extra partitions for /home and /boot?03:30
bubu1ukK-Ryan: just one OS? no dual?03:31
K-RyanThis HDD will be for Kubuntu03:31
K-RyanWhat I really want though03:31
bubu1ukarkanabar: well. in manual setup u first create partitions, then (i think next page) it will give u options to setup mount points for partitions. quiet simple setup03:32
K-RyanAbout 10GB for Kubuntu space, 1GB swap, and about the rest for a fat32 partition I guess03:32
K-RyanBecause I have Windows on a different HDD03:32
K-RyanAnd still need space for Windows because it's my main03:32
bubu1ukK-Ryan: windows on primary, kubuntu secondary hdd?03:32
K-RyanYes03:33
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K-RyanBecause the Windows one is only like 8GB due to complications...03:33
bubu1ukK-Ryan: what kinda hdd is secondary one?03:33
K-Ryan160GB slave03:34
bubu1ukSATA?03:34
K-Ryan?03:34
bubu1ukehm, not sure, but u might need to put /boot in primary hdd. ur bios might not support that03:34
bubu1ukwhat ur' tryin to do.03:35
K-RyanI want Kubuntu =(03:35
K-RyanAs a secondary OS03:35
bubu1uki want new car. :p03:35
K-RyanExcept my want is able to be done right now as we speak03:35
bubu1ukjust put /boot on primary.03:35
bubu1ukrest can be on secondary.03:35
K-Ryanhow big should it be though?03:35
bubu1uk128 MB should be enough.03:36
bubu1ukas far as i remember.03:36
K-RyanAre you kidding me!?!?!03:36
K-RyanThat's great!03:36
bubu1ukyes, kiddin.03:36
bubu1uklol03:36
bubu1ukit is true.03:36
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bubu1ukboot has only grub and kernel.03:37
K-RyanWhich is? I'm not familiar with that03:37
bubu1ukrest is handeld in /03:37
bubu1ukwith what?03:37
K-RyanWhat's Kernal and Grub?03:38
bubu1uku get grub 18 error and dont know what grub is?03:38
K-RyanNo, I googled the error03:38
bubu1ukkernel is base of system.03:38
K-RyanGrub is the selection screen I guess?03:38
bubu1ukgrub is boot manager (i think it's called like that)03:39
bubu1ukam not best in english. lol03:39
K-RyanThe thing that says "Windows or Kubuntu?"03:39
bubu1ukyup03:39
K-RyanAh okay03:39
bubu1ukit just allowes u to choose which OS to run. basicaly kernel of which os.03:39
K-RyanKernal is the base to the OS03:40
K-RyanYes?03:40
bubu1ukyes, like heart of human body.03:40
bubu1uk:)03:40
K-RyanAlright03:40
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bubu1ukhttp://www.gnu.org/software/grub/03:41
bubu1ukhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_(computer_science)03:41
DaSkreechHI BluesKaj03:41
DaSkreechHI nikkiana03:41
DaSkreechhi Hobbsee03:41
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hybridhola03:42
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DaSkreechHu Jucato03:42
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K-RyanHello again Jucato03:43
DaSkreechWow feels like I haven't been here in a while :)03:43
bubu1ukDaSkreech: lol03:43
DaSkreech:-)03:43
BluesKajhi DaSkreech , Jucato03:43
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Jucatohi DaSkreech03:43
Jucatohi K-Ryan03:43
Jucatohi BluesKaj03:44
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bubu1ukHi Jucato03:44
bubu1uk:p03:44
DaSkreechI was just hinking if being friendly can get us O-Ted03:44
hybridOMG Jucato !@!!!@#!@@(*#($*&@03:44
hybrid;D03:44
Jucatohi bubu1uk03:44
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DaSkreecheleven!03:44
Jucatolol! :)03:44
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Jucatohy hybrid :)03:44
DaSkreechHey!! Not Punny!03:45
Jucato:P03:45
DaSkreechso What's the best way to rip DVDs?03:45
phobiacOkay, I'm having an issue with java in firefox, which is far from shocking. Anyway, firefox thinks there's a file where there isn't one and I can't figure out what's pointing it to that file.03:45
K-RyanHey phobiac03:45
phobiacIt's looking for /usr/lib/i386/libjavaplugin_nscp.so03:46
phobiacHey K-Ryan03:46
arkanabarSo, if I want to install /boot and / and /home to separate partitions, how do I get the installer to do that?03:46
phobiacHave you install Kubuntu on that drive of yours yet?03:46
Jucatoyou choose a particular partition, then set it to mount to /boot, then another to /03:47
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K-RyanYes I just did, backed up my music at last03:47
bubu1ukarkanabar: u create partitions for each mount point. then u just choose which to be what03:47
K-RyanExcept I got a grub 18 error03:47
K-RyanWhich I'm trying to fix now03:47
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arkanabarWell I guess I'll just give it a shot.  Off to install.......03:47
phobiacHmm, did you install windows on the drive after Kubuntu?03:47
K-RyanNope, trying to leave Windows there03:47
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K-RyanAs I reinstalled tons of times over the summer because I didn't know my hdd was failing03:48
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DaSkreechubotu needs a grep <factoid> | less functio03:48
Mace68is it possible to set up raid arrays when installing kubuntu 6.10?03:48
DaSkreechMace68: Only with Alternate AFAIK03:48
Mace68is that a live dvd option?03:48
phobiacHmm, only issue I ever had was with the windows boot manager installing over grub.03:48
DaSkreechMace68: I'm not sure but I think that may work as well03:49
DaSkreech Does teh DVD have the alternate option?03:49
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Mace68not sure, i just let it go to the desktop03:49
DaSkreech in related queries :) How dod you rip a DVD?03:49
K-RyanI need a new DVD drive, mine is stuck shut...03:49
Mace68i'll have to reboot and check03:49
Mace68ooh, no fun03:49
K-RyanHey umm, what's an extended partition do?03:50
Mace68well i might be back ;)03:50
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K-RyanI setup an ext3 for boot which should work hopefully03:50
bubu1ukK-Ryan: nothing extra, except that u can have only 4 primary partitions.03:51
K-RyanNow I want to setup a partition for space, and Swap03:51
bubu1ukK-Ryan: ext3 is ok for /boot03:51
phobiacAn extended partition is a partition that you can further partition if I remember correctly.03:51
DaSkreechMace68: wHAT KIND OF raid?03:51
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phobiacLike bubu1uk said, you can only have four so if for some reason you need any more you can set up an extended partition and partition that.03:52
DaSkreechJucato: I need to get rid of my old one. Want it?03:52
Jucatodefinitely not!!!03:52
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K-RyanQuick question, my friend has Ubuntu installed, can he overwrite it with Kubuntu and it will still work?03:54
phobiacK-Ryan, probably just easier to install kubuntu-desktop03:55
K-RyanBut he needs to get rid of Ubuntu03:55
phobiacIs it being buggy or does he just not want Ubuntu?03:55
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K-RyanInternet is being buggy on it03:56
K-RyanI've got him wired in, but in Ubuntu it doesn't work03:56
K-RyanSo I popped in a Kubuntu live cd, and it works03:56
K-RyanSo we want to swap em03:56
bubu1ukthat's more likely config problem then desktop.03:56
phobiacHmm, well I've had issues with setting up wire connection in ubuntu. It's easy enough to fix.03:56
phobiacwired*03:57
K-RyanIt's also a laptop03:57
phobiacUsually it's able to fix itself if you have it plugged in and reboot.03:57
K-RyanWe tried03:57
phobiacOdd. Well there's two ways to do it. Either wipe the drive with the CD which seems a bit overkill or just install kubuntu-desktop then uninstall all the ubuntu packages.03:58
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K-RyanWell if I install kubuntu03:58
bubu1ukK-Ryan: or just try kubuntu-destop, and if u'll be after reinstallin do it later.03:58
K-RyanWhat do I have to do to remove Ubuntu?03:59
K-RyanBecause we want it wiped off his laptop03:59
bubu1ukapt-get remove ubuntu-desktop03:59
bubu1ukis one of the solutions03:59
phobiacNo, you want to purge ubuntu-desktop04:00
K-RyanI want it wiped04:00
bubu1ukah, right. ;)04:00
bubu1ukK-Ryan: wiped in meaning of formating it?04:01
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K-RyanI want Ubuntu OFF04:01
K-RyanAnd Kubuntu ON04:01
K-RyanBlack and white, just like that04:01
phobiacK-Ryan: The installing kubuntu-desktop then purging ubuntu-desktop will be easier.04:02
bubu1ukK-Ryan: phobiac told u there are more ways to do it.04:02
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bubu1ukK-Ryan: not just black and white. maybe even grey. lol04:02
K-RyanJust tell me what I should do, steps please =P04:02
K-RyanI need it gone period04:02
bubu1uksudo apt-get isntall kubuntu-desktop04:02
bubu1uk*install04:02
phobiacK-Ryan: On ubuntu, open the command line.04:03
K-RyanOk hold on, let me put him in Ubuntu04:03
phobiacType sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:03
bubu1uksudo apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop04:03
phobiacOkay04:03
phobiac^ That step is last04:03
bubu1ukof course. told him install first. lol. hope he got it. ;)04:03
phobiacThere's still the step of restarting.04:03
DaSkreechbubu1uk: Fairly certain aht doesn't work :)04:04
bubu1uk:)04:04
bubu1ukdunno exactly. never had to do that. have both on mine. ;)04:04
K-RyanYeah he just handed me his laptop04:04
DaSkreechbubu1uk: try to apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop04:04
K-RyanAnd threatened to castrate me if I screw his Windows up04:05
phobiacK-Ryan: You logged into ubuntu yet?04:05
K-RyanSo please, for the sake of my future children, DON'T LET ME SCREW UP04:05
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phobiacThis won't touch windows.04:05
K-RyanNo, he went to get his charger for his laptop04:05
bubu1ukDaSkreech: i dont need to. wanna have both.04:05
phobiacOkay, tell me when you are.04:05
K-RyanI'm logging onto it now...04:05
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DaSkreechbubu1uk: If it removes a bunch of stuff it will ask you if you are sure04:06
DaSkreechbubu1uk: Just say no :)04:06
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K-Ryanterminal is up04:08
DaSkreechK-Ryan: Lets try Sudo aptitude purge ubuntu-desktop04:09
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K-RyanUmm, purge ubuntu from within ubuntu?04:09
phobiacNot yet04:09
phobiacNo no no04:09
phobiacInstall kubuntu first04:09
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phobiacsudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:09
bubu1ukDaSkreech: dont think he installed kubuntu yet04:09
Hobbseehey DaSkreech04:09
K-RyanHis internet isn't working, so should I just pop the CD in?04:09
phobiacOh wait, forgot about that.04:10
K-RyanYeah...04:10
DaSkreechbubu1uk: doesn't need to04:10
bubu1uklol. me too.04:10
DaSkreechHe can install it from the command line04:10
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phobiacHmm, I doubt the kubuntu packages are in the ubuntu CD.04:10
K-RyanI have a Kubuntu CD04:10
DaSkreechhi Hobbsee. How does it go?04:10
K-Ryan5 actually...04:11
phobiacK-Ryan: Want to attempt fixing the internet? I can tell you what I did.04:11
bubu1ukphobiac: won't he have to setup repos?04:11
bubu1ukphobiac: for that CD04:11
K-RyanWell preferably if we could get his wireless to work, that would be great04:11
yanis there a PPTP app for Kubuntu?04:11
DaSkreechK-Ryan: You have a desktop CD?04:11
K-RyanAye04:11
phobiacHmm, I wonder if the wireless assistant is on the CD.04:11
phobiacI don't know how to get things to install from the CD.04:12
K-RyanWell I'm talking if we could just setup wireless in normal Ubuntu04:12
K-RyanIf that's possible04:12
HobbseeDaSkreech: it goes04:12
DaSkreechHobbsee:  :)04:12
phobiacK-Ryan: It should be if you can get the right package from the CD.04:13
phobiacANyone know how to go about doing that?04:13
bubu1ukK-Ryan: is ur wireless card recognized at least?04:14
K-RyanDon't know04:14
K-RyanHe says it isn't04:14
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bubu1ukin terminal try ifconfig04:14
K-RyanIt's not a wireless card, it's integrated04:14
bubu1ukah04:14
bubu1uktry that command anyway04:15
DaSkreechI need to stop watching Wonderfalls :(04:15
K-RyanOkey04:15
bubu1ukDaSkreech: why?04:15
DaSkreechI need to go home04:15
DaSkreechIt's a good show though04:15
K-Ryanalright, what should I be seeing?04:15
bubu1uklol04:15
K-RyanI've got a bit of info04:15
bubu1ukit tells u what interfaces are on04:16
K-RyanBut I see something here, inet addr:127.0.0.104:16
K-RyanI assume that would be my router04:16
K-RyanExcept my router is 192.168.1.104:16
K-RyanCould that be the problem?04:16
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bubu1ukK-Ryan: there's no place like 127.0.0.104:16
bubu1ukthere-s no place like home04:16
bubu1uklol04:16
bubu1uk127.0.0.1 is just loopback04:17
bubu1uknot router04:17
K-RyanI know, heard it before04:17
K-RyanOh, umm, right04:17
K-RyanI don't know why certain people use 127.0.0.1 to access their router then04:17
K-RyanGo figure, anyway...04:17
K-RyanOh, since I'm multi-tasking I forgot I'm still trying to install Kubuntu for myself.04:18
K-RyanWhat file system should I use for storing my Linux stuff?04:18
K-RyanFat32?04:18
K-RyanOr ext3?04:19
bubu1ukext304:19
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bubu1ukwould recomend04:19
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phobiac_Whoops, internet went out.04:19
K-RyanUhh, I just commited the thing04:20
K-RyanAnd instead of saying ext3, it says "unknow"04:20
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K-RyanHold on, they're drinking something in my room and told them not to04:20
bubu1ukK-Ryan: try command lspci if it tells u something bout ethernet card04:21
bubu1ukK-Ryan: drink with them. lol04:21
phobiac_K-Ryan: You commited the partitioning and one of the partitions was mislabled?04:21
K-RyanI click commit because I figured that means "apply"04:22
K-Ryanand instead of ext3 it says unknow04:22
phobiac_You may end up having to re do it.04:22
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bubu1ukPhobiac_: lol, true04:22
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K-Ryanbubuluk, I don't want him drinking/eating in there04:23
K-RyanHe spilt crap before, he'll do it again04:23
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phobiac_Hold on a second04:23
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phobiacThere, got my nick back.04:24
K-RyanYeah, it's now ext304:24
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phobiacK-Ryan: Do you happen to have a usb flash drive or anything to use to transfer files between your computer and the laptop?04:25
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K-RyanI've got an SD card in my camera04:25
K-Ryan;)04:25
phobiacCan that go between your computer and the laptop, and how big is it?04:26
K-Ryan2GB04:26
phobiacHey, you never know, it could work.04:26
K-RyanPlug my camera into my computer, upload files04:26
K-RyanPop the card into his laptop04:26
K-RyanIt has a reader so yeah..04:26
phobiacThat could work.04:26
phobiacGive me a second.04:26
K-RyanWait04:26
K-RyanFirst let me make sure my Kubuntu works04:26
K-RyanHis laptop is not my primary concern =)04:27
phobiacOkay04:27
phobiacGives me time to look for the .deb I want to find04:27
K-RyanOkay, under this prepare mount thing04:27
K-RyanI setup a 233MB partition on my windows drive for the grub and kernal thing04:27
K-RyanBecause I was getting that grub 17 error04:27
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K-RyanBy default it is going to be labeled "/media/sda1" what do I change it to?04:28
phobiacYou mean grub 18?04:28
K-RyanYes04:28
K-RyanDo I change it to "/boot" ?04:28
phobiacDon't know, let me consult google04:28
K-RyanThanks04:28
phobiacNo problem04:29
K-RyanIf you don't know what that Grub 18 error thing is, http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/GRUB#Error_1804:29
phobiachttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=705104:30
phobiacThat thread suggests to me it should be /boot04:30
K-RyanAnd fixing it is probably just putting it on my boot drive because m BIOS probably can't handle multidisk booting04:30
K-RyanOkey04:30
phobiacHowever it also says to make it a 32mb partition.04:30
K-RyanHold on04:31
K-RyanIt says...04:31
d0dgeUmm, how to log out from X server?04:31
K-RyanFilesystems used by the system (/, /boot, etc....) must be reformatted for use by this installer. Other filesystems(/home /media/* /usr/local, etc.) may be used without refomatting.04:31
bubu1ukit doesnt really matter how big /boot is04:31
K-RyanI don't want to format my Windows hard drive04:32
K-RyanIs this saying I have to?04:32
K-RyanOr maybe it's because I didn't have a boot partition before?04:32
phobiacNo, it was just saying that person used 32mb.04:32
bubu1ukK-Ryan: it will only format partition u set for /boot04:32
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K-RyanThe "partition" or the whole drive?04:32
bubu1ukpartition04:33
K-RyanBecause I down sized the drive04:33
K-Ryanbubu1uk, if my windows is erased, you're buying me Vista04:33
phobiacThe partition04:33
K-RyanNah, I've got a Windows disc =P04:33
bubu1ukK-Ryan: lol04:33
phobiacK-Ryan: That's not really a reward04:33
K-RyanYeah I know, it's going to be buggy for the first couple of months04:33
bubu1ukphobiac: true true04:33
K-RyanAnd hole ridden04:33
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K-RyanUntil they make a Service Pack for it04:34
K-Ryananyway, I'm counting on this04:34
phobiacWhere it will become more hole ridden...04:34
K-RyanHah04:34
bubu1ukphobiac: lol04:34
DaSkreechd0dge: alt+ctrl+bkspc04:34
K-RyanSo I should check the "Reformat?" box and continue, yes?04:34
DaSkreechd0dge: save your documentes first04:34
phobiacK-Ryan: I guess.04:35
K-RyanOh well, screw it if I have to reinstall Windows, I'll already have Linux anyway04:35
bubu1ukK-Ryan: yes, check on that partition that u want to reformat. so one dedicated for boot04:35
phobiacThen you'll have another grub error, it's easily fixed though.04:35
d0dgeDaSkreech: Ok, thanks.04:35
K-RyanI hope so =)04:35
phobiacGrub error 20, I can't remember the full details but basically if you install windows after kubuntu grub gets erased.04:36
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phobiacOr generally screwed with.04:36
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DaSkreechd0dge: Wait hold up04:36
bubu1ukphobiac: basicaly no boot loader. lol04:37
specialbuddy1has anyone here put beryl on kubuntu?04:37
d0dgeDaSkreech: Haven't done anything yet :P04:37
DaSkreechd0dge: What do you wnat to do?04:37
phobiacspeacialbuddy: I have04:37
d0dgeDaSkreech: Nvidia driver setup said that I need to exit X server before installing04:37
specialbuddy1how easy was it phobiac?04:37
K-RyanInvalid file system for this mount point04:38
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phobiacspecialbuddy1: Took a little while and there were a few hurdles due to my ATI graphics card.04:38
K-RyanContinuing...04:38
phobiacK-Ryan: Which mount point?04:38
K-RyanI think the installer just exited itself04:38
K-RyanDidn't say04:38
specialbuddy1whats a good howto for getting it to work?04:38
specialbuddy1I have nvidia so that shouldn't be a problem04:39
phobiacspecialbuddy1: Try the beryl wiki, google it04:39
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phobiacK-Ryan: You might end up having to start from scratch. :/04:39
phobiacWith the partitioning.04:39
guilleri need help... any speak portuguese???04:39
bubu1uk!pg04:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:40
bubu1ukhmm, what's short for portuguese?04:40
K-RyanYeah I am04:40
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K-RyanI'm tempted to just reinstall Windows afterward >.>04:40
bubu1ukK-Ryan: why?04:41
phobiacHaha, K-Ryan taken out of context what you just said is a little confusing right after bubu1uk's messege..04:41
K-RyanBecause I want Kubuntu!04:41
bubu1ukphobiac: true.04:41
bubu1uk:D04:41
K-RyanUmm, right04:42
bubu1ukK-Ryan: do u have 2 partitions on primary disk?04:42
phobiacK-Ryan: I don't know what went wrong with the partitioning though. I've never had the grub 18 error.04:42
phobiacLargest drive I've ever worked with is 80gb when it comes to installing kubuntu. :(04:42
bubu1ukK-Ryan: first with nfts and win on it, and second small one?04:42
K-RyanHold on04:43
K-RyanI'm going to set the installer backup and hope it works04:43
K-RyanWith minor changes this time04:43
bubu1ukK-Ryan: u'd better tell us what u do on everypage of installer.04:43
specialbuddy1can beryl be done with Kubuntu?04:43
phobiacspecialbuddy1: Yes, it works fine with kubuntu.04:44
bubu1ukphobiac: is it night called repeating urself? lol. everyone is asking twice tonight.04:44
phobiacspeacialbuddy1: Here, use this guide04:45
phobiachttp://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_nVidia04:45
specialbuddy1thanks04:45
phobiacIgnore that is says ubuntu and not kubuntu, it should still work.04:45
specialbuddy1ok04:45
phobiacI've never done it with nVidia though, so if you need assitance at any point I'd go to #beryl04:46
phobiacAlthough they are rarely big on helping.04:46
specialbuddy1thanks04:47
phobiacEverything I've gone in there for help I'm ignored while they discuss the newest feature in beryl or something simmilar. Anyway...04:47
bubu1ukphobiac: lol. u get that type of ppl04:47
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phobiacYeah04:48
K-RyanSorry if you thought I died04:50
bubu1ukunfortunately. :(04:50
K-RyanHad to let my dogs out and back in04:50
phobiacNo prob04:50
K-RyanIt's raining so I couldn't just let em stay out =P04:50
phobiacSome things are more important then linux :P04:50
bubu1ukphobiac: lol. get my messages in right place to be confusing. :D04:50
K-RyanWell the partitions are still set right04:51
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K-RyanYes phobiac04:51
K-RyanMy primary ext3 that's about 300mb for /boot is on my first hd04:51
K-Ryanwhich seems to be fine04:51
K-Ryanon my second hd ive got a 12gb ext3 for whatever04:51
K-Ryanand a 1gb linux-swap04:51
Hawai`ibbl04:52
phobiacHmm04:52
bubu1ukK-Ryan: seems allright04:52
K-RyanOkay now I'm at step 504:52
phobiacWhich is?04:53
K-RyanPrepare mountp oints04:53
K-RyanAnd I now have more than last time it seems04:53
phobiacThat's odd04:53
K-RyanIt wants to mount my Windows partition o.O04:54
K-Ryanas /media/hda104:54
K-Ryanclear it out?04:54
phobiacNo04:54
bubu1ukK-Ryan: setup first / and /boot04:54
K-RyanI have my 12GB / there04:54
K-RyanIt also wants to mount a 135GB ntfs04:54
K-Ryanleave it there?04:54
phobiacK-Ryan, /media is where mounted external drives and stuff go.04:55
phobiacLike, if you pop in a flash drive04:55
K-RyanI didn't touch it, it just put it there04:55
K-RyanI have the following04:55
phobiacIt also mounts other partitions in there.04:55
phobiacThat's what it did with my ntfs partition.04:55
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bubu1ukK-Ryan: tell us line after line04:55
phobiacSo yeah, just leave it.04:55
K-Ryan(windows) /media/hda104:55
phobiacGood04:55
K-Ryan(boot)/boot 298Mb04:55
K-Ryan(swap)swap 1GB04:56
K-Ryan(root)/ 12GB04:56
K-Ryan(ntfs)/media/hdb3 135GB04:56
K-RyanContinue?04:56
phobiacHmm wait04:56
phobiacWhy does the windows partition have no filesize after it?04:57
phobiacErr, parition size04:57
K-RyanIt does04:57
K-Ryan8GB04:57
K-Ryanwhich is the entire first HD04:57
bubu1ukphobiac: doesnt matter, it told allready hda104:57
K-Ryan*HDD04:57
phobiacOh okay. That sounds fine then.04:57
K-RyanOh, it just rounded up, thats why its 804:57
bubu1ukK-Ryan: for /boot u should have hda204:58
K-RyanContinuing...04:58
K-RyanI do04:58
bubu1ukfor / and swap hdb1 and 204:58
bubu1ukright?04:58
K-RyanYep04:58
bubu1ukseems allright then04:58
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wincidehi all04:58
K-Ryan'ello04:58
phobiacHi04:58
bubu1ukexcept, what u  have ntfs hdb3 for?04:58
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K-RyanYep, ntfs says hdb304:59
K-RyanIt's for my Windows stuff04:59
bubu1ukah, ok.04:59
bubu1ukyeah, it's allright then. well. seems04:59
bubu1ukhols04:59
K-RyanI'm a gamer, so I can't completely rid myself of Windows04:59
bubu1uk*hold04:59
wincidei cant make a "rescue booting" with an kubuntu-6.10 iso ... is it possible ?04:59
xenophile7x7whats the command to remove a package?04:59
wincidei lost grub, with error 17 , cause of partition magic..05:00
bubu1uknow tick to reformat /boot / and swap (not others, aka windows partitions)05:00
phobiacwincide: You can burn the iso to a DVD and use it as a live CD...05:00
wincide[phobiac]  think so05:00
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phobiacxenophile: apt-get remove (package name)05:00
wincidebut its so slow05:00
phobiacYou need sudo before that apt-get05:00
xenophile7x7ty!05:00
phobiacNp05:00
K-RyanAnd now I get to wait 10 minutes...05:01
phobiacwincide: Slow to what? Burn or use the live CD?05:01
phobiacK-Ryan: For it to partition? Gl05:01
wincidei have a burned one05:01
bubu1ukK-Ryan: is it installin now?05:01
wincidebut i it was very difficult05:01
phobiacwincide: Is this on an older computer?05:02
wincidei was looking a manual to make a rescue install with the steps of an old debian05:02
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wincidewith chroot , and installing grub again05:02
phobiacwincide: Oh, you lost grub?05:03
wincidebut there are some steps i cant find05:03
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wincidelike mount -t /proc none05:03
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wincideand dont know wich version of kubuntu can i use to make this05:03
wincide:S05:03
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K-RyanSorry, was checking up on my friends...05:04
K-RyanYeah it's installing05:04
bubu1ukok, then, seems allright.05:04
K-RyanAbout 4 minutes left05:04
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phobiacwincide: I'm not 100% sure on what your problem is. You need to reinstall grub?05:04
bubu1uku figured out what to do with that laptop ?05:04
K-RyanNot yet05:04
K-RyanI'm more concerned about getting my computer to work05:04
K-RyanHis computer works fine05:04
bubu1ukwell, after install it should.05:05
K-RyanYes, It should05:05
K-Ryanheh, 3:33 remaining05:05
d0dgeOk does anyone know how to acces on mounted hd, it says that I have no permissions, I've tried chmod etc.05:05
K-RyanAnd 3 is my lucky number =)05:05
phobiacK-Ryan: Good luck with it05:05
phobiacMine too, coincidence.05:05
wincide[phobiac]  first i lost my grub.. the message was ERROR 17 .. then ive installed a windows XP, so i lost grub05:05
K-RyanMines 3 because I was born on March 3rd05:05
phobiac!grub windows05:05
ubotugrub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-11ubuntu14 (edgy), package size 359 kB, installed size 764 kB05:05
K-RyanOr so I say it's my lucky number because of that05:05
phobiacHmm that didn't work.05:06
K-Ryanmaybe this05:06
bubu1ukd0dge: it's probably mounted as root. u might need to check fstab05:06
K-Ryan!grubwindows05:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about grubwindows - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:06
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phobiacK-Ryan: Mine is for reasons inappropiate for this channel.05:06
noiesmo!fixgrub05:06
K-RyanHah05:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fixgrub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:06
K-Ryan!grub-windows05:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about grub-windows - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:06
K-RyanI wonder what it has to say about Windows...05:06
K-Ryan!windows05:06
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents05:06
phobiacwincide: There's a guide for this05:07
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K-RyanHAH!05:07
phobiacHahaha05:07
K-RyanGo Linux!05:07
wincide[phobiac]  i know, but i didnt find yet05:07
K-RyanDown with Microsoft!05:07
phobiacwincide: Just give me a second05:07
K-RyanF! S! F!05:07
K-RyanSorry, couldn't resist that..05:07
MinatakuHow is a bootloader optional O.o05:07
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d0dgebubu1uk: Ok, how to check it? and thanks for help05:07
wincidecause the method i know with the iso i have is not so easy :P05:08
K-RyanIt's optional because you might only be running one OS05:08
K-RyanIf you run one OS you shouldn't need it, right?05:08
bubu1uklook at /etc/fstab05:08
MinatakuYou still need a bootloader05:08
K-RyanGood point05:08
MinatakuOtherwise what will load the OS?05:08
Minataku:D05:08
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MinatakuEven Windows NT has one, it's called "NTLDR"05:08
bubu1ukd0dge: what was it u couldn't acces?05:08
K-RyanWhat's NT?05:08
phobiacYou need a bootloader05:08
wincideummm sorry about my english.. i knowis **king bad..05:08
K-RyanSomething before 95?05:08
d0dgebubu1uk: To the second hard disk, hdb105:09
K-RyanHeyyyy, my install is almost done05:09
phobiacArgh, I can't find this guide.05:09
MinatakuK-Ryan: Windows XP is NT 5.1.260005:09
phobiacI know exactly what I'm looking for too.05:09
bubu1ukd0dge: ok, do: sudo cat /etc/fstab05:09
K-RyanWhat's NT then?05:09
phobiacWait, I think I found it05:09
K-Ryanthe installer says "Please wait 0%"05:09
d0dgebubu1uk: It's mounted. fstab says: /dev/hdb1 /media/hd auto nouser,noauto,atime,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 005:09
K-RyanIs it calling me impatient?05:10
MinatakuK-Ryan: Windows XP is NT05:10
bubu1ukd0dge: u need to change nouser to users i think05:10
K-RyanYes yes, what's it stand for?05:10
MinatakuTechnically, nothing05:10
K-RyanOh05:10
phobiacHmm, this gide suggests super grub disk but there's an easier way.05:10
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K-RyanCome to think of it, does XP stand for anything either? o.O05:10
d0dgebubu1uk: Ok, how can I edit this file?05:10
phobiacwincide: You still there?05:10
MinatakuK-Ryan: Nope05:11
bubu1ukd0dge: sudo nano /etc/fstab05:11
K-RyanGo figure05:11
phobiacI always thought it might be eXtra Power or something.05:11
wincide!seen jpatrick05:11
ubotuI haven't seen jpatrick recently05:11
bubu1ukor something else for nano. use editor u like05:11
MinatakuK-Ryan: Sorry for the misunderstanding, BTW X305:11
K-RyanX3?05:11
MinatakuIt's like X)05:11
MinatakuIt's an emoticon05:11
K-RyanOh, right05:11
MinatakuThe 3 is a kitty mouth05:11
bubu1uklol05:12
K-RyanYeah I never could really picture that05:12
K-RyanIt looks like an ***05:12
bubu1ukK-Ryan: try to turn ur head to the left. lol05:12
K-RyanTo me anyway...05:12
wincidei have to leave... thx for all.. tomorrow ill try again.. Bye !05:12
phobiacwincide: Wait05:12
phobiachttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11433205:12
d0dgebubu1uk: Still, not enough permissions to read, arrgh.05:12
phobiacThis might help?05:12
K-RyanI tilted me head to the left, it looks like a dead bunny...05:12
K-RyanOH OH OH OH!05:13
Minatakulol05:13
K-RyanI'm done, cross your fingers and wish me luck, I'm restarting05:13
bubu1ukd0dge: after changing fstab u need to remount05:13
MinatakuGood luck05:13
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phobiacwincide: Sorry, I can't find the guide I'm looking for. :(05:13
d0dgebubu1uk: Oh okay. Thank you very much for help!05:13
MinatakuHeh, stdin and genii aren't here05:13
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wincide[phobiac]  sure.. this may run with kubuntu 5.10 and before...05:14
bubu1ukok, last faq, will wait for K-Ryans result and bed.05:14
wincidebut with new versions dont run05:14
wincide:S05:14
bubu1uk4.17am. bout time lol.05:14
bubu1uk*fag, not faq, lol05:15
d0dgebubu1uk: Oh btw, I should change nouser to 'users' or 'user'?05:15
phobiac5.10..that's not Breezy is it?05:15
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wincide[phobiac]  thx , but i have to leave now05:15
bubu1ukd0dge: users i think,05:15
bubu1ukhold a sec05:15
d0dgeok05:15
phobiacwincide: Sorry, I hope you find a solution soon.05:15
wincidesee you tomorrow :D05:15
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bubu1ukd0dge: user05:16
DaveQBhow does one wipre/clear out KDE session from the CLI ?05:16
bubu1ukd0dge: sorry, couldnt remember exactly05:16
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bubu1ukDaveQB: what u mean clear session?05:18
DaveQBok so when KDE fires up you can have it set to returns apps to where they were, Konqueror tabs etc05:19
DaveQBhow can one clear that, which dir/file ?05:19
bubu1uku can change that in control center. not to save session05:19
DaveQBI am asking in KDE and they agree with what I have done is correct, but still fires up the old session (and crashes) they said it must be Kubuntu specific05:19
bubu1ukor start session with clear one05:20
phobiac DaveQB: You mean the session is saving?05:20
DaveQByeah but cant get to control centre, its crashes before I get a chance05:20
DaveQByes05:20
bubu1ukah,05:20
phobiacThat's odd.05:20
d0dgebubu1uk: Yeah no problem. But all I get is the same error, You do not have enough permissions to read file://media/xxx05:20
DaveQBmv ~/.kde ~/.kdeOLD works, but do not want to reconfigure everything05:20
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K-RyanYeah, grub 18 error again =*(05:20
K-RyanNah, it works05:20
phobiacI've no idea where it is Dave. Sorry. :/05:21
K-RyanI'm really happy now that it's working05:21
phobiacK-Ryan: So you've got kubuntu running?05:21
DaveQBi did do rm -rf ~/.kde/share/config/sessions/* && rm ~/.kde/share/config/ksmserverrc05:21
phobiacCongratulations!05:21
K-RyanYep05:21
K-RyanThanks to everyone that helped05:21
bubu1ukd0dge: try just to change all settings to 'defaults'05:21
phobiacNow, want to try getting that laptop working?05:21
DaveQBmy above command should wipe it out, #KDE agress, but its not05:21
K-RyanNow, to get Frozen Bubble =)05:21
bubu1ukd0dge: u tried to remount it right?05:21
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K-RyanNot yet phobiac05:21
d0dgebubu1uk: Yep05:21
K-RyanI'm determined to get Frozen Bubble still =P05:21
phobiacOkay05:21
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phobiacHa05:22
specialbuddy1whats a good app for wireiess05:22
bubu1ukd0dge: try defaults instead all those settings05:22
specialbuddy1whats a good app for wireiess05:22
joecoderEvery time I boot into kubuntu, I need to do ifdown eth0, ifup eth0 to make my network work.05:22
DaveQBspecialbuddy1: knetworkmanager05:22
phobiacspecialbuddy: Wireless assitant worked for me.05:22
joecodereth0 is a wired connection05:22
DaveQBknetworkmanager is awesome!05:22
phobiacspecialbuddy: Ask once, don't spam.05:22
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K-RyanHow do I enable all the  repositories again?05:23
phobiacI'll have to try knetworkmanager05:23
makuseruwhere can i get drivers for an ATI Radeon 700005:23
phobiacK-Ryan: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list05:23
K-Ryanmakuseru, someone told me ATI cards are unstable and unsupported05:23
makuseruno05:23
K-Ryanthe drivers are*05:23
phobiacmakuseru: I think fglrx works with most ATI cards.05:23
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K-RyanBut I'm new to Linux so I'm not positive05:23
phobiacfglrx works as a replacement driver though.05:24
joecodercan anyone help me with my network settings?05:24
phobiacmakuseru: Trying to get beryl working? :P05:24
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makuseruya, i just got a new card today been using intel chipset05:24
phobiacjoecoder: Maybe eth0 isn't set to start up at boot.05:25
K-RyanOpening adept...05:25
joecoderphobiac: perhaps.. what do I check?05:25
K-Ryanno results on frozen bubble05:25
phobiacOpen up the System Settings thing and go to Network Settings05:25
K-RyanWhat did I do wrong? I uncommented the deb lines, OH05:25
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d0dgebubu1uk: Ok05:25
K-RyanI didn't update the list, what was the command for that?05:25
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phobiacJoecoder: Then click the admin mode button05:26
joecoderphobiac: I'm there05:26
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phobiacK-Ryan: There's and update button in the upper left05:26
K-RyanOh, that will do it05:26
joecoderphobiac: enabled, automatic, dhcp05:26
joecoderphobiac, and the activate on start is checked05:26
K-RyanUm, don't see it05:26
phobiacjoecoder: Hmm, thats not the issue then.05:26
phobiacK-Ryan, should look like recycle arrows.05:27
joecoderphobiac: It worked when I first installed it, but I broke it somehow following a tutorial to get my wireless working (and wireless still doesn't work). Multiple tutorials, I think.05:27
K-RyanThere was a terminal command to update that database thing05:27
K-RyanIt's not in Adept if you're talking about there05:27
phobiacK-Ryan: sudo apt-get update05:27
bubu1uksudo apt-get update05:27
K-RyanThanks05:27
phobiacjoecoder: Have that tutorial handy?05:28
joecoderphobiac: It was months ago.. one of those times when I got frustrated with linux and then went back to windows.05:28
bubu1uklol05:28
joecoderphobiac: What are some places to check?05:28
joecoderphobiac: config files, that is05:29
phobiacjoecoder: Hmm, only place I would know to check is there.05:29
joecoderphobiac: I'll browse around /etc05:29
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bubu1ukjoecoder: when u boot and it's not working. check settings if gateway is properly setup.05:30
phobiacjoecoder: You could always but something in the autostart that does the ifdown and ifup for you.05:30
joecoderwhat does /etc/hosts do?05:31
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bubu1uki think it's like local dns05:32
bubu1ukjoecoder: when u boot, is eth0 up?05:33
K-Ryanphobiac I enabled the universe and some backport thing and adept wont start, no error message either05:33
phobiacK-Ryan: What version of Kubuntu did you install?05:33
joecoderbubuluk:  can't remember, but I can reboot and find out.  I know it doesn't work.05:33
K-Ryan6.0605:33
phobiacDid you update?05:34
bubu1ukjoecoder: ur on LAN?05:34
phobiacsudo apt-get update, right solve the problem.05:34
joecoderbubuluk:  yes.  I have wireless, but getting that to work is the next step after this.05:34
K-RyanUpdating05:34
K-RyanReading package lists... Done05:34
joecoderbubuluk:  Wireless worked at one time also... kindof05:34
phobiacTry adept again.05:34
K-RyanIt asked for my password, opened05:35
phobiacGood05:35
K-Ryanno result on frozen bubble05:35
K-Ryan=(05:35
phobiacK-Ryan: The issue may be that frozen bubble won't work with dapper, but I doubt it.05:35
bubu1ukjoecoder: u might need to check if there is any connection at least on lan (if u can connect to router) and just cant connect to internet or nothing at all05:35
phobiacMake that 6.06, not dapper. I have that habit of switching the name and version number.05:36
joecoderbubuluk:  I'll reboot, check the status, ping some things, and then bring it down and up and come back here.05:36
bubu1ukjoecoder: ok.05:36
joecoderbrb in 2-4 mins05:36
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phobiacK-Ryan: You could always update to 6.1005:36
bubu1ukK-Ryan: when u do sudo apt-get upgrade, what it does?05:37
phobiacbubu1uk: It completes for him05:37
n8k99K-Ryan did you install?05:37
K-RyanSorry, was checking on my friends05:37
bubu1ukphobiac: i know. just wondering if it actually does anything.05:38
K-RyanUpdate to 6.10, what would that do?05:38
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phobiacK-Ryan: It would mean your kubuntu is more up to date, might make things easier.05:38
phobiacIf you're going to update I'd do it now before you start setting things up.05:38
K-RyanWould you reccomend it?05:38
phobiacIt will, however, take a few hours.05:38
phobiacIf you want an up to date computer I would.05:39
bubu1ukphobiac: upgrade to 6.10 thru synaptic is not really recomended as far as i know05:39
K-RyanMaybe another time05:39
phobiacNo, it isn't.05:39
bubu1ukand 6.06 is still supported with newest updates05:39
n8k99it would be better to burn a 6-10 cd to update than use apt-get dist-upgrade05:39
phobiac^ That's what I did, minus the CD.05:40
bubu1ukso that shouldn't be really big problem05:40
n8k99edgy introduces a fundamentally difference bootup sequence05:40
phobiacHowever that was a stupid move on my part.05:40
bubu1uklol05:40
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n8k99a fresh install from a cd is _much_ easier05:41
n8k99as you may now know05:41
phobiacMuch less risky as well.05:41
phobiacn8K99: I wss impatient and stupid.05:41
bubu1ukphobiac: we all are. ;)05:41
n8k99yeah it's also fun to try things the way your _not_ supposed to05:42
K-RyanOkay phobiac if you would be so kind as to help me get the laptop working05:42
n8k99like just for giggles on a fresh install  I ran sudo rm -rf /05:42
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phobiacK-Ryan: Alright. I've got something that will make this easier too.05:42
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K-RyanK05:42
n8k99only once will I ever do that!!!05:43
d0dgebubu1uk: Oh, is there any way to run Konqueror as root?05:43
phobiacK-Ryan: Do you know how to do /msg?05:43
K-Ryannope05:43
joecoderback05:43
phobiacI think you did it with intelikey the other day.05:43
K-RyanYou mean like a PM?05:43
phobiacYeah05:43
K-Ryanyeah hold on05:43
bubu1ukd0dge: from command line u should be able05:43
bubu1uksudo konqueror?05:43
joecoderOn startup, eth0 is shown as up, I can ping myself, my router, my neighbor (on the same isp), but not google.com -- dns trouble perhaps?05:43
bubu1ukjoecoder, seems so05:44
d0dgebubu1uk: konqueror: cannot connect to X server :0.005:44
n8k99joecoder in  konsole use sudo dhclient eth005:44
K-RyanHold on phobiac I can't talk in there because I'm not registered05:44
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phobiacOh05:44
phobiacWhat are you using for Irc?05:44
phobiacOh wait05:44
K-RyanKonversation05:44
phobiacThe nick isn't05:44
bubu1ukd0dge: u tryin konsole within kde?05:45
phobiacCan you read my messages though?05:45
K-RyanYes05:45
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d0dgebubu1uk: Umm.. yeah :o05:45
phobiacAlright, this should work then. Give me a moment.05:45
bubu1ukd0dge: dunno then. :(05:45
phobiacIn the meantime install Krdc if you don't have it.05:45
K-RyanKrdc?05:46
phobiacLook for it on Adept05:46
phobiacIt's for remote desktop connections05:46
K-RyanI've got it 99% positive05:46
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K-RyanYup05:46
phobiacYou'll be able to watch what I suggest to do instead of me telling you. :D05:46
phobiacIt this works.05:46
phobiacIf*05:47
bubu1ukjoecoder: did u manage to work it out?05:47
d0dgebubu1uk: as root I can 'cd /media/hd' and I can see all the files and stuff. Just can't get there with KDE :P05:47
bubu1ukd0dge: sec05:48
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bubu1ukd0dge: try mount -o uid=username /whateveruwanttomount05:52
bubu1ukd0dge: not sure, cant remember exact command.05:52
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bubu1uklooking for it tho05:52
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JoeCoder_weird, kopete just switched me from irc.freenode.net to irc.kde.org without even telling me.05:55
JoeCoder_I just stopped getting messages about 10 minutes ago05:55
JoeCoder_can anyone hear me now?05:55
bubu1ukJoeCoder_:yes05:55
JoeCoder_bubuluk:  What was the last thing you got from me?05:55
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bubu1uklike now? or before?05:56
bubu1uk[05:06]  <JoeCoder_> weird, kopete just switched me from irc.freenode.net to irc.kde.org without even telling me.05:56
JoeCoder_bubuluk:  before.  Did you get the message about what I could and couldn't ping?05:57
bubu1uk[04:55]  <joecoder> On startup, eth0 is shown as up, I can ping myself, my router, my neighbor (on the same isp), but not google.com -- dns trouble perhaps?05:57
d0dgebubu1uk: I think that's the right command05:57
d0dgebubu1uk: didn't get any errors05:57
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bubu1ukd0dge,  so u can access it now05:58
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even-this-is-tak Okay, so who would be kind enough to help a complete kubuntu newbie out?05:58
toulousehey guys, my file system check dies "with an exit status of 8" what should i do?? i was thinking of just deleting that partition and then making it again (it's not holding anything valuble)05:58
d0dgebubu1uk: Yes! Thanks!05:59
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JoeCoder_bubuluk:  the results of the dhcp command someone asked me to run:  http://rafb.net/p/Z0jiV242.html05:59
d0dgebubu1uk: Saved my day..05:59
bubu1ukjoecoder: did u get this message? [04:55]  <n8k99> joecoder in  konsole use sudo dhclient eth005:59
even-this-is-tak I have some really dumb questions05:59
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bubu1ukjoecoder: ah, u got it then05:59
bubu1ukd0dge: np06:00
wolfwalker First of all, I just installed Kubuntu. How DO I see what's on C: drive?06:00
JoeCoder_bubuluk:  Those are the current results, after bringing eth0 down and back up.06:00
JoeCoder_wolfwalker: /media/windows06:00
wolfwalker I'm used to windows explorer, where you can see everything on the hard drive06:00
JoeCoder_wolfwalker: Load konqueror and go to settings, load view profile, file manager06:00
toulousehey guys, if i use a partitioning tool to erase and then re-make a partition, do i need to edit my fstab file???06:01
bubu1ukjoecoder: i think u just might need to setup dns servers manually in network settings.06:01
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wolfwalker Depends what you are using the partition for toulouse06:01
bubu1ukjoecoder: i usually do that. cuz my router plays stupid games with me sometimes.06:01
toulousei want to try another linux on it06:01
toulousebut i (think) it's failing my file system check06:02
wolfwalker Whatcha running right now?06:02
toulouseubuntu06:02
wolfwalker Whatcha trying?06:02
toulousebut i tried to put dreamlinux on that partition06:02
JoeCoder_bubuluk:  That may work, but the netowrk worked back in the beginning with no tweaking before I screwed it up.06:02
toulouseGRub never recognized it, so i just want to try another that's easier to set up with Grub06:02
wolfwalker Another stupid newbie question, for anyone patient enough to help a newbie out06:03
bubu1ukwell, usually works for me too after fresh install. then it just suddenly stops for some reasons. but as i said, i have problem with router. cuz win machine drops all the time.06:03
toulousewolfwalker, but now, when i boot up it says file system check fail with an exit status of 8.06:03
wolfwalker My internet computer is Windows XP. Where can I go on the net to download installer files for programs for Kubuntu?06:03
bubu1ukjoecoder: i actually have everything set up manually06:03
bubu1ukjoecoder: so don't use dhcp06:03
toulousewolfwalker: synaptic ?06:04
wolfwalker No, my Kubuntu computer is upstairs and I am not going to be connecting it to the net06:04
JoeCoder_bubuluk:  It's a laptop--won't that mean I need to resetup the network each place I go?06:04
n8k99wolfwalker are you looking to install kubuntu on your computer?06:04
wolfwalker Although from what I've been told, synaptic rocks06:04
wolfwalker No, I have kub on my computer upstairs06:04
toulouseyeah, pretty much06:04
bubu1ukjoecoder: well, ur' right,06:04
n8k99ah I see - and kub is not connected to the internet06:05
wolfwalker I want to know where I can go to download installer files instead of hauling my computer down here to the internet port06:05
wolfwalker Right, it's not06:05
wolfwalker It's a standalone upstairs06:05
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toulouselol'z run a line upstairs06:05
wolfwalker Negative06:05
bubu1ukjoecoder: well, it should work, dont know why, but ur network card seems to be working ok, just not getting proper info from router.06:06
toulousei dunno man, i bet you can google most programs and someone will have the programs on their ftp06:06
n8k99wolfwalker why not?06:06
bubu1ukwolfwalker: find .deb files of applications u want06:06
wolfwalker From what I understand, the files will be .deb files06:07
wolfwalker Right06:07
JoeCoder_bubuluk:  And if it's a dns problem, why would manual dhcp settings help?06:07
Dr_willisproblem with downloading the .debs is theres a lot of dependencies to get.06:07
wolfwalker That's another thing I hear06:07
n8k99zactly06:07
Dr_willisdepending on what you are wanting to get.06:07
bubu1ukah, automatic dhcp should be ok.06:07
wolfwalker And synaptic downloads the dependencies automatically06:07
wolfwalker But this computer ain't goin on the net06:07
bubu1ukjoecoder: i use it actually only on server, cuz of port forwarding.06:07
Dr_willisif doing  the downloading from another ubuntu box. theres a apt-cache or some command/tool that can download all the deps for packages.06:07
Dr_willisthe apt guide mention it.06:08
n8k99synaptic/adept/kpackage/apt/aptitude all pretty much handle dependencies06:08
wolfwalker So I want a site like synaptic, where you can browse for programs compiled for ubuntu06:08
bubu1ukjoecoder: laptop doesnt' bother me that much, cuz there i can restart interface easily and doesnt matter what ip i get06:08
wolfwalker But where they are in .deb form06:08
JoeCoder_Anyone know why, after startup, I need to take my network interface down and back up again to get domain names to resolve?06:08
wolfwalker Sounds like some preset is not being saved JoeCoder06:08
wolfwalker But then, what I know would barely fill a thimble :P06:09
JoeCoder_bubuluk:  If I have to constantly resort to little hacks here and there to keep things working, I'll just use winxp since it just works.  I do appreciate the suggestions though.06:09
bubu1ukjoecoder: if u just setup dns servers, won't it work even if u move somewhere else?06:09
JoeCoder_bubuluk:  Should, but where do I set those?06:10
JoeCoder_bubuluk:, nm, I see06:10
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Dr_willisxp 'just works' - gee... i have a lot of data that goes against that. :) but i am tired.. so night all...06:11
bubu1ukjoecoder: good question, lol. am on fedora now. letme check on kubuntu. ;)06:11
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bubu1ukoh, and btw, my win laptop "just doesn't work" sometimes when using wireless.06:12
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JoeCoder_bubuluk:  I found it already.  But how can I find the ip's of my isp's dns?06:12
bubu1ukcan u connect to router?06:12
bubu1ukshould be there06:13
ted_uhm... ive got some probs with torrents and stuff. when i used windows i got like 1.4 mb/s, but in linux ive got like 15 kb/s... any suggestions how to boost the speed?06:13
JoeCoder_bubluk:  I don't have the password for it and my isp won't give it to me.  They own the router--weird, I know.06:13
bubu1ukted_: what u use?06:13
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ted_i use KTorrent06:13
bubu1ukjoecoder: is it router at home?06:13
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bubu1ukted_: try something else. had problems with that as well.06:14
bubu1ukted_: dunno why, rtorrent just works for me06:14
ted_hm. okay :) ill try rtorrent. thanks :D06:14
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bubu1ukted_: little warning, rtorrent is console based. ;)06:15
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bubu1ukjoecoder: u here?06:15
thevhi, just wondering about a program for KDE which will enable be to undelete pictures on a fat32 CF Card.  Does anything exist?06:15
ted_oh... ah well, ive got to learn the console sooner or later so ;)06:15
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bubu1ukted_: anyway, there are some good guides on net for rtorrent tho.and it's pretty simple.06:16
ted_nice, im gonna need that :) thanks again :D06:17
waveleri need help which one should i download? here's the link http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/06:17
JoeCoder_bubuluk:  sorry, I'm joecoder_: now due to irc ghost, didn't notice.06:18
JoeCoder_bubluk:  yes, router is at home06:18
bubu1ukJoeCoder_: password is usually somewhere on router, or ISP changed it?06:18
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JoeCoder_bubuluk:  isp changed, and they won't even give it to me.  I've asked agian and again and again.06:19
wavelercan anyone help me?06:19
bubu1ukwaveler: any06:19
Jucato!anyone06:20
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?06:20
bubu1ukJoeCoder_: and didn't they give u their dns ips?06:20
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JoeCoder_bubuluk:  nope06:20
bubu1ukJoeCoder_: who's ur isp?06:20
wavelerits my first time to use linux (kubuntu 6.10)06:20
bubu1uktry google for their dns06:20
wavelerhttp://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/06:21
JoeCoder_bubuluk: c3bb.com.  It's run through the city hall.  Local, small.  only broadband provider I can get.06:21
wavelerwhich one shouldi download bubuluk?06:21
ted_bubu1uk wonderful program :D it works very well :D you saved my morning :D06:21
bubu1ukted_: what version u runnin?06:21
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Hawai`ilooking for a program similar to filezilla and putty but for Kubuntu..06:22
Hawai`i?06:22
JoeCoder_bubuluk:  dns is obviously working now.  Isn't there a command I can run to get what server is being used?06:22
Hawai`iand do I even need..06:22
bubu1ukwaveler: any u want. it's just packed diferent way. but still same package06:22
bubu1ukJoeCoder_: sec06:22
ted_bubu1uk rTorrent 0.5.3 - libTorrent 0.9.306:22
wavelerbubuluk i see06:22
bubu1ukted_: there is rtorrent 6.4 libtorrent 0.10.4 out now.06:24
wavelerbubuluk how do i install it?06:24
bubu1ukbut not in repos, u might google for it.06:24
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ted_bubu1k oh :) getting the new one right away :D06:25
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bubu1ukJoeCoder_: dig command should do this. but didnt give me my ips.06:28
bubu1ukbut when searched with my dns ip, it showed, so not sure how to use that command properly06:28
bubu1uk:(06:28
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bubu1ukJoeCoder_: in dns settings, do u have 102.168.0.1 as primary dns setup?06:29
bubu1uk*192.168.0.106:29
JoeCoder_bubuluk:  nope.06:30
bubu1ukwaveler: unpack, read README06:30
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bubu1ukJoeCoder_: try just to have there just 192.168.0.1. that should work anyway.06:30
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JoeCoder_bubuluk:  my router as a dns server?06:31
Cardinalso anyone do a successful upgrade of the ATI video driver06:31
Cardinalfor radeon?06:31
bubu1ukJoeCoder_: yes, cuz it forwards dns requests, as far as i know. i usually have only that. basicaly win or either linux will setup only that. i setup my isp's dns, cuz my router is stupid monkey, that somtimes drops packets and stops forwarding it.06:33
bubu1ukCardinal: have u tried ubuntuguide?06:33
bubu1ukCardinal: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/06:34
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bubu1ukJoeCoder_: could actually think bout it earlier. just forgoten bout this cuz of my habbit to setup everything. thanx to my router. netgear rules. lol.06:36
bubu1ukhave 2 of those products and not happy with them. :(06:37
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CardinalI wil do that... thanks bubuluk06:42
enzo_How do I replace the MBR?06:43
enzo_fdisk /mbr?06:44
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wavelerbubuluk i already configured but i can't install make06:45
wavelerwhat should i do next?06:45
wavelerhow can i install libdvdcss?06:47
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mueslienzo_: depends on your bootloader06:47
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muesliwith lilo e.g. it would be simply calling lilo (assuming that /etc/lilo.conf tells it to write to the mbr)06:48
mueslihere's a little grub howto06:48
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mueslienzo_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2411306:49
mueslisee the entry by remmelt (second message, not the first one)06:49
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wavelermuesli how can i install libdvdcss?06:52
phobiacHow can you check what process is using a file?06:54
muesliphobiac: lsof06:54
phobiacso lsof filename06:54
muesliwaveler: add the following line to your /etc/apt/sources.list06:54
mueslideb http://seveas.imbrandon.com edgy-seveas extras06:54
muesliwaveler: sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 w32codecs06:55
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muesliphobiac: rather "lsof | grep filename"06:55
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phobiacThank you06:55
muesliphobiac: oh actually lsof filename should work too iirc06:55
mueslianyways, i always tend to grep ;-)06:55
phobiacAh okay06:55
yanIs there a fully gui PPTP VPN utility for Kubuntu?06:57
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wavelermuesli i still don't get it! its my first time to use linux btw07:03
wavelercan you make it more simple?07:03
muesliuhm no actually. what's the problem currently?07:03
waveleri went to the this link http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/edgy-seveas/all/07:04
enzo_Thank you muesli07:04
muesliwaveler: as mentioned. first of all edit your /etc/apt/sources.list07:04
muesliand add this line to it (at the end simply):07:04
mueslideb http://seveas.imbrandon.com edgy-seveas extras07:05
mueslithen run "sudo apt-get update"07:05
muesliand then "sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 w32codecs"07:05
mueslithat's it07:05
Zamberkdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list07:05
Zamberadd the repo mentioned07:05
Zambersudo apt-get update07:05
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Zambersudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 w32codecs07:05
wavelerso i shoud use kate07:05
Zamberevrything07:05
wavelershould*07:05
muesliwaveler: whatever editor you prefer07:06
Zamber!libdvdcss07:07
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages07:07
ZamberxD07:07
Zamber!libdvdcss207:08
Cagarro!compiz07:09
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems07:09
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juanoanyone know why my start up script isnt loading?07:13
juanoi have a sh with +x permissions in /etc/init,d07:14
juanowhen i logout then login it wont run07:14
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d03boyi need some troubleshooting help with wifi07:14
d03boyndiswrapper is up and running but I cant "see" any networks07:15
d03boythis could possibly be because my wireless card's radio is turned off but I'm not sure how to turn it back on if it is off07:15
d03boyand i dont know how to tell if its off07:15
Zamber!wifi07:17
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:17
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d03boyi read all that documentation07:22
ted_uhm... what is the default download directory in rtorrent?07:26
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freshburnok i have an HP desktop and matching laptop i installed fresh kubuntu edgy on both, allowed both to take all updates from main restricted universe and multiverse07:32
freshburnall went well07:32
freshburnthen.... i requested to install pckg gnome-games the desktop took all games installed and play but the laptop says BREAK07:32
freshburnany ideas? or better anyone even here?07:32
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posingaspopularroom: im getting a 'no instillation candidate' for sudo apt-get install mozilla firefox I know it has to do with repositories, but not much else. help?07:35
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K`zanposingaspopular: I found and installed it using adept...  Sometimes in some places it is called mozilla-firefox or mozilla_firefox FWIW.07:36
posingaspopularK`zan: thanks bro07:37
K`zanposingaspopular: Just trying to give back some of all the help I have gotten, no problem :-).07:38
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posingaspopularK`zan: im stupid, it was already installed. i dont use the kubuntu channel much, i spent most of my time in ubuntu chicago, but if you ever need help, send mea msg07:39
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freshburnis there a way to make adept try to install an older version of package gnome-games or to tell me exactly what will "BREAK" stopping it from installing?07:40
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juanoanyone know how to install spanish keyboard layout?07:42
spawn57yeah07:43
spawn57System Settings, reoginal and language07:43
spawn57you can add you local language there, and change the keyboard layout07:43
juanospawn57: yea i installed spanish, except i cant select spanish keyboard layout07:43
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juanospawn57: i put enable keyboard layouts and everything is blank there07:44
spawn57oh07:45
lovlossgaaaaah07:45
spawn57honestly tehn it might be distriubution specific07:45
lovlosskonqueror's web browser messes up07:45
spawn57what distro are you using?07:45
K`zanposingaspopular: No problem.  Used to live in McHenry, Cville and slumburg and elgin and LOL!07:46
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juanospawn57: 6.10 edgy07:46
ted_uhm... ive totally lost a file... how do I tell whereis to search for a file wich name has "Crank" in it? i know it has something else in the name, but i dont remember what...07:47
spawn57ah07:47
spawn57hold on then, it might be a package, lemme look it up07:47
juanoted_: find / -name "Crank*"07:47
juanook spawn57 thanks07:47
ted_ah :D thx :D07:47
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K`zanWonder if there is a later release of the avr-gcc package that supports the Mega644?!?07:49
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posingaspopularK`zan:  we just had a chicago ubuntu meeting this afternoon in elmhurst, looking for maybe downtown chicago library (harold washington) or to have more meetings in elmhurst. we're looking to expand our group/ubunutu majorly in the next few months07:49
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ForgeAusaww I can't get pydance working!07:51
K`zanposingaspopular: Elmhurst is def a better choice :-), if you are out there be SURE to visit the Lazzadro Museum which is on the same grounds as the library.07:51
lovlosshere's what happened. I was tired of image files opening in an annoying program, so i right-clicked and told it to always open jpegs/gifs/etc with gwenview. after that, konqueror's web browser started doing that too. that annoyed me, so i went in and changed it to open them with the embedded program, and it worked, but it does that icon thing07:51
K`zanposingaspopular: http://www.lizzadromuseum.org/  -  WELL worth the trip.07:51
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spawn57hey juano, sorry man i can pin down what you need to get it to work07:53
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juanospawn57: no worries :) thanks for your help, il lkeep searching to see if i can come up with something07:53
posingaspopularK`zan: awesome. tight to sleeeeep. thanks for the help07:53
spawn57juano: =D07:53
K`zanposingaspopular: Sure, NP, rest well and stay warm.07:54
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juanospawn57: its weird cause with keyboarch switch installed it sees english layout, but not spanish, and inside system preferences -> regional.. etc, no layouts appear07:55
bartisthello07:56
bartistmy sound only works when it wants07:56
bartistwhat can i do?07:56
spawn57juano: yeah i know  =\07:56
spawn57juano: i tried checking what lanugage packages I have instaleld but that didn't help it sems07:56
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freshburnok this is getting even wierder08:04
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freshburni am trying to install gnome-games package to a fresh kubuntu edgy all that ive installed is all recomended updates and now no matter what package i "request install" adept replies with "BREAK (install)08:06
dwidmannfreshburn, perhaps try with apt-get or aptitude and see if you get different results?08:08
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freshburnapt-get says same08:15
freshburnis it possible to force isntall of an older package version? or at least tell me what will "BREAK"?08:15
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juanoanyone succeeded at changing keyboard layouts?08:19
makuserucan anyone help me beryl? everyone is dead in #beryl08:19
makuseru=}08:19
bartistanyone has its sound working?08:21
freshburnwith aptitude how do i tell it to add including all dependancies?08:25
freshburni use "+" to add the package thenn is there a way to tell it to get all the dependacies also?>08:25
makuseruci know how to fix dependency problems, but thats it08:26
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boot_failureAnyone here know how to fix a boot failure?08:31
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dwidmannfreshburn, still around? sorry about that, got caught up in a movie08:36
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Raffyhi08:37
dwidmann'ello08:37
Raffyi need an info can u help me?08:37
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dwidmannperhaps08:38
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Raff7i only need to know what kubuntu versione i need download if i have a core 2 duo08:38
Raff7so a 64 bit sistem08:39
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dwidmanneither the x86_64 or the i386 will do, most likely.08:39
dwidmannAll current 64-bit processors are backwards compatible ... so take your pick.08:40
Raff7ehm i've tried an'other linux distro for 64 and it didn't work :s08:40
Raff7i'm downloading i386 ;)08:41
dwidmannWhich one, which release?08:41
Raff7whitch release don't work or witch release i'm downloading?08:41
dwidmannIf it fails to boot for you, it's likely a kernel problem of some sort, I'd figure.08:41
dwidmannwhich release didn't work.08:42
Raff7suse 10 distro08:42
dwidmannHmm, I'm not too familiar with suse, I'll look up what kernel it uses08:42
Raff7mmm08:42
Raff7do'nt worry maybe is a dvd problem08:42
Raff7don't*08:43
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bLaZeD!iso08:43
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn08:43
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dwidmannpossibly ... always a good idea to have the burning program check the write after it's written.08:43
K`zanIf you are looking for an updated package (old one, in this case, doesn't support something I need), where do you go - no contact info for the maintainer - launchpad->bugs (it really isn't a bug, just old)?!?08:43
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juanoanyone know how to change keyboard layout? works in gnome, cant make it work here08:43
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Raff7dwidmann: i've do it08:44
K`zanjuano: Control center->peripherals->keyboard ?08:44
juanoK`zan: where is control center?08:44
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dwidmannK'zan, might be easier in the end to just build the package yourself, though, the package itself usually lists the maintainer, apt-cache show <package>08:45
shahidare their any programs available for creating listings on ebay for linux?08:45
juanoK`zan: got it08:45
juanoK`zan: no language option08:45
K`zanjuano: Not sure in a stock install, but I added it from "add applets" off the panel...08:45
K`zanal08:45
K-RyanHey guys, how can I install this game? www.sauerbraten.org08:45
K`zanah08:45
Raff7kubuntu have a very good server o.o 430KB in download08:46
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dwidmannRaff7: looks like it would have depended on which release of SuSE you tried, 10.0, 10.1, or 10.2?08:46
Raff7Hi dwidmann08:46
Raff7sorry is my script :08:46
K`zanjuano: try googling, I don't know how you change language :-(. sorry/08:46
Raff710.0108:46
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Raff710.1*08:47
juanoK`zan: yeah.. im googling.. not much luck08:47
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K`zanjuano: I suspect it will be under regional settings, checking in control panel now.08:48
K-RyanCan someone show me how to install this? www.sauerbraten.org08:48
dwidmannRaff7, not sure, you could have better luck with Edgy or perhaps a shot at Feisty (the second development release was just released days ago, could be worth a try), seeing as they have newer kernels (2.6.17 and 2.6.20 respectively, as compared to SuSE 10.1 which seems to be using 2.6.16)08:48
Raff7Hi dwidmann08:48
Raff7grrrr script08:48
juanoK`zan: yeah theres a keyboard layout option there, when im in its just blank and no buttons seem to work in that window08:48
K-RyanHellllooooo?08:48
Raff7mmm08:49
Raff7okey08:49
K`zanjuano: control panel->Regional & accessibility->keyboard layout!08:49
shahidwhich is the best stable version of kubuntu available?08:49
shahidfor newbies08:49
juanoK`zan: yes thats where ive been, nothing in that window, just buttons that wont action08:49
K`zanjuano: click on the enable Keyboard Layouts checkbox08:50
shahidalso can someone please tell me if kubuntu is available with flash plugins and java pre-installed??08:50
dwidmannshahid, depends what you're doing ... it's like they say, out with the old bugs, in with the new ... some things will be easier and other things might not be. Might as well go for the latest stable (6.10 "Edgy") if you're starting now.08:50
juanoK`zan: i have, no luck08:50
K`zanjuano: under layout.08:50
K-Ryanshahid, i'm using 6.06 and i dont have complaints08:50
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shahidahh ok thanks08:50
K-Ryan6.10 you gotta download08:50
K-Ryan6.06 you can order a free cd08:50
shahidi'm using mepis 6.008:51
dwidmannwhich will take like, a month to get there ...08:51
K`zanjunano, works here- select one on the left  and click add...08:51
shahidbut wanna know if kubuntu is better08:51
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K-Ryannot a month08:51
K-RyanI got my kubuntu cd's in 3 weeks?08:51
K-Ryannot bad for free shipping from holland to NY08:51
K-RyanAnyway, can someone help me install this? www.sauerbraten.org08:51
K`zanshahid: Yes it is.08:52
shahidbut i have not complaints with SimplyMepis 6.0 just wondered if Kubuntu is as good or better?08:52
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posingaspopularraff7: ubuntu 6.06 LTS works for 64 but08:52
dwidmannI've not given Mepis a try, so I can't say. It's probably also a matter of taste.08:52
K`zanshahid: I tried that one too, ubuntu is working out well for me - just converted the first machine here to it and as of today I consider it usable and a success :)08:52
shahid<K`zan> what features are better or as good as SimplyMepis in Kubuntu?08:53
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posingaspopularRaff7: ubuntu 6.06 LTS is available for 64 bit08:53
Raff7we are sure the the chip fritz therisn't in core 2 duo?08:53
K-RyanCan someone please help me?08:53
K`zanshahid: For me the important ones, give the live CD a try.  Was less finicky than mephis as far as I was concerned.08:54
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dwidmannK-Ryan, I've not a clue, what is the extension of the file you downloaded, that should give a general idea08:54
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K-RyanIt's a game08:54
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K-RyanWhich is why I linked...08:54
shahidK`zan: does Kubuntu come with java & firefox plugins & MPlayer Plugins installed?08:55
dwidmannI already know that, I'm wondering what the extension of the file you downloaded is though ... because I don't feel like starting the download to figure it out.08:55
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K-Ryanthere is no one extension08:55
dwidmannshahid: no08:55
posingaspopularcheck the read me08:55
posingaspopularhttp://www.sauerbraten.org/README.html08:55
shahidahh ok08:55
K-Ryanits a tar.gz. which is decompressed08:55
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stdinK-Ryan: you want help?08:55
K-Ryanand now its a folder sitting on my desktop08:55
K-RyanYes please if you would be so kin08:55
K-Ryan*kind08:56
dwidmannK-ryan, extract it, and look in the base directory, there is probably a file called "INSTALL"08:56
stdinK-Ryan: ok, let me d/l it, and we'll have a look :)08:56
K-RyanInstall, nope08:56
K-Ryani have some folders08:56
ezatyhai all..08:56
K`zanshahid: I think so, except for the codecs for mplayer and those you can get from the mplayer site and just unpack them to /usr/local/lib/win32.08:56
dwidmannhow about a file "configure"?08:56
K-Ryanbin, bin_unix, CVS, data, docs, packages, src08:56
shahidI've just got my SimplyMepis 6.0 install exactly how i want it now, so not sure if i will give Kubuntu a test yet, but if things don't work out with this.. I'll try it next08:56
K-Ryanthen a readme.html about the game08:56
K-Ryana sauerbraten.pdb08:56
dwidmannooh, that makes things easy08:56
dwidmannI think08:56
K-Ryanand a sauerbraten._unix08:57
stdin132.57MB woah :P08:57
dwidmannIt looks like it's precompiled, K-Ryan, see if the files in the bin directory can be run from a terminal08:57
K-RyanIt's an FPS08:57
K-Ryanin bin is sauerbraten.exe08:57
posingaspopularInstructions for Running Sauerbraten08:57
posingaspopularFor Windows: Install, edit, then run sauerbraten.bat.08:57
posingaspopularFor GNU/Linux: gunzip, chmod +x sauerbraten_unix and then ./sauerbraten_unix. Needs a decent and compliant OpenGL implementation.08:57
dwidmannK-Ryan, well, that could be a problem ... a windows binary08:58
shahidlinux is very good08:58
shahidi love the debian based distro's :)08:58
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K-RyanYes dwidmann, that's why I require the help of someone who knows what they are doing08:58
K-RyanBecause it is indeed possible to do08:58
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dwidmannI'm sure, but it would take me hours to go through a 130mb download, so you require not only someone who knows what they're doing, but someone who has a very fast connection as well.08:59
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shahidnice08:59
shahidi have 2mb/s09:00
shahid:(09:00
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dwidmannstdin: lukcy little ... :(09:00
K-RyanHow many kb are in 128mb, 128000 right?09:00
dwidmannhmm, nope09:00
K-RyanUhh, yeah...09:00
dwidmann131,07209:00
K-Ryan128 multiplied by 100009:00
stdinK-Ryan: no, there are 8bits to 1 byte and 1024bytes to 1KB09:00
K-RyanAre you serious? I always thought it was an even 1k09:01
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K-RyanOh well, that's not bad09:01
K-RyanJust means a little bit of my video card won't be used...09:01
dwidmann2 ^ 10 = kb, 2 ^ 20 = mb 2 ^ 30 = gb ....09:01
stdinK-Ryan: and 1024KB to 1MB :P09:01
shahidi need to buy a cheap video card also09:01
shahid64mb will do09:02
stdinK-Ryan: ok, you see a file called "sauerbraten_unix" ?09:03
posingaspopularK-Ryan: im downloading it right now09:03
dwidmannshahid, you can probably get an nvidia 6600GT for a good price09:03
K-RyanHold on ooonnneeee second, I'm setting up my drivers09:04
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juanoK`zan: i figured it out, in input device section at Xorg.conf you need to change   Option  xkblayout "us"  ----> to ---->  Option xkblayout  "us,es"09:06
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juanoK`zan: it worked, thats for spanish09:06
K-Ryanwhat's my "monitor's horizontal sync range?"09:06
K-Ryanfancy wording for front width?09:06
shahiddwidmann: yeh i'll take a look on ebuyer i think.. i saw some good prices for decent nVidia cards their last week09:06
dwidmannThat would be something to get from either the internet, or the monitor's manual09:07
nalurihai09:07
dwidmannit's one of the factors used to determine resolution and refresh rate09:07
K-RyanYes I can tell09:07
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K-RyanThe setup told me that09:07
shahiddwidmann: i only need something very basic really so im not relying on the small bit of ram i have09:07
K`zanjuano: Glad to be able to help!09:07
nalurihello k-ryan09:07
dwidmannshahid, the 6600gt is a couple generations old, it probably wouldn't be more than $5009:08
nalurihai k'zan09:08
juanoK`zan:  :-) thanks09:08
K-RyanThere we go09:08
K-RyanFinally made it through all of that09:08
K-RyanOh what the, why does glxinfo | grep direct still say "direct rendering: No"09:09
shahiddwidmann: yes i think ur right, but to me it's still very recent hardware because im not really a gamer. sounds good anyway, i've never owned a graphics card that ends with letter before :)09:09
K-Ryanjust means that it isn't supported by default?09:09
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K-RyanBecause I did just set up the ATI driver thing09:09
K-RyanAnyway, now for someone to help me setup sauerbraten09:09
K-Ryanif its as easy as i think it is, im going to hit myself...09:10
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stdinK-Ryan: it's quite easy :)09:11
K-Ryanno it isnt as easy as i thought it was09:11
K-RyanI don't know what this chmod +x "ing" is09:11
naluriwhat is this..09:11
K-Ryantrying to install a game09:11
K-Ryanstdin, explain to me what I am to do09:12
stdinK-Ryan: you don't need to chmod it, don't worry about it09:12
K-RyanThen what do I do?09:12
naluriitriying to install a game09:12
nalurithen what do i do09:12
stdinK-Ryan: Right-click on the desktop, choose "Create New -> Link to Application"09:12
dwidmannK-Ryan: chmod = change mode = change permissions, the x stands for executable, the + means to add it, so you're basically making the file executable.09:13
naluriyou don't need to chomd it, dont worry about it09:13
naluri??????????????????????????????09:13
naluri?????????????????????????/09:13
naluri!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!09:13
naluri!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!09:13
naluri!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!09:13
stdinK-Ryan: call it "Sauerbraten" or what ever you want, click on the  "Application" tab09:13
naluri!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!09:13
K-Ryanwhere do i put in the path to the file?09:13
naluri!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!09:13
naluri!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!09:13
naluri!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!09:13
K-Ryanin workpath?09:13
dwidmannYou can stop now naluri09:13
naluri1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!09:14
naluri!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!09:14
K-RyanYeah what the hell is he doing?09:14
stdinnaluri: give it a rest09:14
naluriok dwidmannnnn09:14
K-RyanEh, no matter, continue09:14
nalurihahaha..09:14
naluriok stdin09:14
nalurinow i tell u09:15
naluri............09:15
stdinK-Ryan: In the name part call it "Sauerbraten", in the command part, click browse and set it to where "'sauerbraten_unix" is09:15
naluriK-Ryan: In the name part call it "Sauerbraten", in the command part, click browse and set it to where "'sauerbraten_unix" is09:15
naluriEh, no matter, continue09:16
naluri?????????????????????????09:16
naluriYou can stop now naluri09:16
nalurinaluri: give it a rest09:16
K-Ryanbin_unix or the linux_client?09:16
naluri bin_unix or the linux_client?09:16
K-RyanAlright well naluri just earned an ignore09:17
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naluri<-- rexbron has left this server (Remote closed the connection).09:17
naluriAlright well naluri just earned an ignore09:17
K-RyanAnyway, stdin do I put the command to bin_unix or linux_client?09:17
stdinK-Ryan: go up one directory, there is a file called "sauerbraten_unix" use that09:17
K-Ryanoh, yeah i see it09:17
dwidmannand a second ignore :\09:17
juanowhere can i set my apps that run on startup? i already put a script with +x in /etc/init.d09:17
juanoit doesnt work09:17
naluri where can i set my apps that run on startup? i already put a script with +x in /etc/init.d09:17
K-Ryantesting...09:18
naluri where can i set my apps that run on startup? i already put a script with +x in /etc/init.d09:18
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naluritesting...09:18
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naluriit doesnt work09:18
K-Ryanit was loading09:18
stdinK-Ryan: then if the "Work path" you need to set it to the same directory that sauerbraten_unix is in09:18
K-Ryannothing happened09:18
K-Ryanoh, heh =)09:18
naluriK-Ryan: then if the "Work path" you need to set it to the same directory that sauerbraten_unix is in09:18
naluriwhat happen now....09:18
nalurioh, heh =)09:19
K-Ryantesting again...09:19
stdinnaluri: any reason for you behaving like that?09:19
juanonaluri: you bored_09:19
K-Ryannaluri is ignored =)09:19
nalurino.. just kidding only09:19
nalurinaluri is ignored =)09:19
nalurihahahahahahahahahahahahaha......09:20
stdingo kidd in #kubuntu-offtopic , not in a support channel please09:20
K-Ryanstdin when i try to open it it justs loads then disapears09:20
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K-Ryanunder the general tab it says type: desktop config file09:21
K-Ryancould that be a problem?09:21
stdinK-Ryan: no, it's supposed to say that09:22
K-Ryanokay, then is there anything else?09:22
K-Ryanunder permissions i made it executable09:23
K-Ryanapplication the lines read like this09:23
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K-RyanSauerbraten, Sauerbraten, /home/ryan/Desktop/sauerbraten/sauerbraten_unix, /home/ryan/Desktop/sauerbraten09:23
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stdinK-Ryan: Try not making it executable, desktop links don't need to be (and shouldn't be)09:24
K-Ryannothing09:24
K-RyanDid it work for you?09:25
stdinyeah09:25
K-Ryan=(09:25
bartisthello, i love kubuntu09:25
bartistbut because of sound pb, i might use another distro09:25
bartisthello, i love kubuntu09:25
bartistbut because of sound pb, i might use another distro09:25
bartistmy sound works when it wants09:25
bartistits getting me crasy!09:25
bartistone day it works, and the other it doesn't09:25
bartistit's veery frustrating09:26
K-Ryanstdin is there anyway i can run it through maybe the terminal and find out whats wrong?09:26
stdinK-Ryan: yeah, open konsole, type "cd Desktop/sauerbraten" , then "./sauerbraten_unix"09:27
stdinK-Ryan: the './' part is important, do don't forget it :)09:28
K-Ryanbash: cd: desktop/sauerbraten: no such file or directory09:28
stdinK-Ryan: case sensitive "cd Desktop/sauerbraten" not "cd desktop/sauerbraten"09:29
K-Ryanoh, sorry used to windows09:29
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K-Ryanah yes, much better09:29
tHeTrUetheOnetheis kubuntu better than ubuntu?09:29
K-Ryanruns KDE instead of GNOME09:29
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K-RyanIt's a personal choice thing09:29
Dasnipa`tHeTrUetheOnethe, kubuntu is ubuntu technically09:30
K-Ryan./bin_unix/linux_client: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory09:30
stdintHeTrUetheOnethe: depends what you like, try both09:30
tHeTrUetheOnethewhich one better for a noob09:30
K-RyanEither09:30
K-RyanI'm new too, Ubuntu is nice09:30
K-RyanBut I happen to like Kubuntu09:30
tHeTrUetheOnethecan i go above 1024 screen resolution09:30
K-RyanMy friend however likes Ubuntu09:30
K-RyanShould be able to09:30
tHeTrUetheOnethedo i need to change something?09:30
K-RyanAs in manually change your screen resolution?09:31
stdintHeTrUetheOnethe: you can go as high as your graphics card and monitor can support09:31
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tHeTrUetheOnethesettings in ubuntu limited to 102409:31
K-Ryanwhat stdin said09:31
tHeTrUetheOnethedo i need to install drivers?09:31
stdin!xconfig09:32
ubotuTo reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". To configure only the driver and resolution, type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh".09:32
stdintHeTrUetheOnethe: use that 2nd command09:32
bartistwhat do you know about x sound server?09:32
tHeTrUetheOnethethanks ill try that09:32
stdinK-Ryan: try installing "libsdl1.2debian-all"09:33
tHeTrUetheOnethecan i install kubuntu and then ubuntu on top?09:34
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K-Ryansudo apt-get install libsdl1.2debian-all09:34
K-Ryanyes?09:34
stdintHeTrUetheOnethe: yeah, you can use both installed on the same system09:34
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tHeTrUetheOnethehow do i switch between them?09:35
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stdinK-Ryan: actually, just install "libsdl1.2debian": sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2debian09:35
K-Ryanthat's what i typed09:35
stdintHeTrUetheOnethe: you would choose which you want to run before you login09:35
stdinK-Ryan: without the "all" on the end09:35
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K-Ryanoh...09:36
K-Ryanumm well i already went through with it *shrug*09:36
tHeTrUetheOnetheneat09:36
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lovlossany blendermeisters here?09:36
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lovloss(aka, masters of blender 3d)09:36
K-Ryanit's still not working! =(09:37
tHeTrUetheOnethewhats the difference between a CD and DVD distro09:37
stdinK-Ryan: it doesn't really matter too much, now try running the game from konsole again09:37
lovlossdvd probably has more stuff on it09:37
K-Ryansame error09:37
K-Ryanerror loading libsdl_image-1.2.so.009:38
K-Ryanthats the main part09:38
stdintHeTrUetheOnethe: the dvd has the Desktop install and the text mode install, it also has some packages on the DVD so you can use it to install some packages09:38
tHeTrUetheOnetheare they worth installing?09:39
stdintHeTrUetheOnethe: there are a lot of packages on it, some are, some aren't09:39
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tHeTrUetheOnethewhen newer version of kubuntu come out, do i have to reinstall it completely?09:40
stdintHeTrUetheOnethe: no, you can just upgrade09:40
tHeTrUetheOnethecool09:40
stdinK-Ryan: try "sudo apt-get install libsdl-image1.2"09:40
tHeTrUetheOnethehow much disk space do i need for both ubuntu and kubuntu?09:40
tHeTrUetheOnetheand other apps09:41
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K-Ryannow i dont have libsdl_mixer-1.2.so.009:42
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stdintHeTrUetheOnethe: usually around 10GB is fine, but it depends if you're going to be downloading a lot09:42
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tHeTrUetheOnethedoes it use pagefiles like windows?09:43
stdintHeTrUetheOnethe: it can, but it uses a swap partition, so the page file is on it's own partition09:44
K-Ryannow its not letting me cd Desktop/sauerbraten09:44
K-Ryani fixed the mixer thing09:44
K-Ryanand i get how to get the other files09:45
K-Ryanbut now i can't cd it09:45
K-Ryanto test and find what i need09:45
tHeTrUetheOnethebut it will still take up the space of that 10gb partition right?09:45
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stdinK-Ryan: are you sure you aren't already in there?09:45
K-Ryanryan@ryan-desktop:/$09:45
blekosanoyone nows how to make vlc the default player for firefox?09:45
stdintHeTrUetheOnethe: no, you give it it's own partition09:46
stdinK-Ryan: what error do you get with "cd Desktop" then ?09:46
K-Ryanbash: cd: Desktop/sauerbraten: No such file or directory09:46
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stdinK-Ryan: just try "cd Desktop"09:47
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tHeTrUetheOnethewill i be able to use fat32 partitions for storage?09:47
K-Ryanno such file or directory o.O09:47
stdinK-Ryan: type "ls" to list what files and dirs there are09:48
K-Ryanbin   cdrom  etc   initrd      lib         media  opt   root  srv  tmp  var09:48
K-Ryanboot  dev    home  initrd.img  lost+found  mnt    proc  sbin  sys  usr  vmlinuz09:48
stdintHeTrUetheOnethe: yeah, you can use any partition type you want, but windows understands fat32 too, so it's good for sharing files between windows and linux09:49
stdinK-Ryan: you're in / for some reason :P09:49
K-Ryanuhh, how do i get out?09:49
stdinK-Ryan: just type "cd" to go back to your home09:49
K-Ryannvm..09:49
K-RyanIt's a habit from windows...09:49
tHeTrUetheOnetheis sudo used to run commands?09:50
tHeTrUetheOnethewhile sh to run files?09:51
posingaspopular#join ubuntu-marketing09:51
stdintHeTrUetheOnethe: no, sudo is used to run commands as root (super user), sh is a shell, like DOS is a shell and bash is too09:51
stdin!sudo09:51
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.09:51
tHeTrUetheOnethewhat does sudo -s do?09:52
tHeTrUetheOnethegive u super-powers?09:52
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stdintHeTrUetheOnethe: it lets you use the root account while maintaining the location of the home dir and others, that link has all that information09:53
tHeTrUetheOnetheoh ok thanks09:54
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stdintHeTrUetheOnethe: they explain it better on the link than I can :P09:54
amigaflamehello guys, could someone told me what is the differences between suse and kubuntu?09:54
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mineurit's a different distro09:55
amigaflameyes i know that but what are the real differences?09:55
stdinthere are a lot09:55
amigaflamewhich is better? im using suse09:56
stdinsuse is RPM, Kubuntu is DEB09:56
mineurpackage system to install software09:56
mineur:)09:56
mineurit's all about preferences :) I prefer deb09:56
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stdincan't stand rpms09:57
stdindependency hell :P09:57
mineuronce there was a time it was the only option available :d09:57
ForgeAushelp! I need to apply a patch to pydance09:57
ForgeAusI don't even know hwere it installed itself to and which file to patch09:58
mineuramigaflame: I'd say give .deb a try... and you'll never want another system again :)09:58
ForgeAusall I know is I need to apply pydance.patch to it...09:58
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ciapsadmSalutare!09:59
mineur!it10:00
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!10:00
mineurmy italian isn't that great :p10:00
amigaflamei ll try it, i used to have windows but since i try linux theres no way back : )10:01
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flostupid question but i'vd just discoverd linux and i'm triing to learn c in my spare time, now with kate how can i insert an automatic space in at the begining of a new line?indentantion sourd of10:04
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Xemanthhow do I format usb memory sticks in kubuntu ?10:05
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ForgeAusahh I found out.... its a patch for fontfx.py file under pydance to get it running under edgy10:08
ForgeAusnow it worx!10:08
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tHeTrUetheOnethe!gksudo10:09
ubotuIf you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using "sudo <GUI-application>"10:09
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tHeTrUetheOnethewhat is the equivalent of gksudo "gnome-open %u" in kubuntu?10:13
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spawn57kdesu I think10:14
spawn57that's to open a program as root10:14
hyper_chany OOo Calc pros here? got a problem with the lookup function10:16
tHeTrUetheOnethekdesu "kde-open %u"?10:16
tHeTrUetheOnethe!kdesu10:16
ubotuIn KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo10:16
bartisti give up10:16
bartistbye bye kubuntu10:16
bartisthello mepi10:16
tHeTrUetheOnethewhats wrong10:16
hyper_chbartist: what's not working?10:17
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bartistmy sound works only when it wants!!10:17
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bartistone day it works, the other is doesnt10:17
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bartisti ve been through all the guides and tutorials out there10:18
bartistand nothing works10:18
tHeTrUetheOnetheoh ya sound can be a bitch10:18
tHeTrUetheOnethewhat soundcard u have10:18
spawn57do you use any usb sound devices?10:18
bartistintel ac9710:18
bartistsometime i plug my ipod10:19
bartistlast time i had sound, it was just before sound server crashed, while running amarok with my ipod plugged10:19
The_Paranoidanyone knows how to bind a network-card to an interface ? eth0 and eth1 are switching places every reboot :(10:19
tHeTrUetheOnetheipod is probably causing the problem10:20
bartistit is unplugged now10:20
bartistand still no sound!10:20
tHeTrUetheOnetheno idea then10:20
stdinThe_Paranoid: yeah, yo need to put it in /etc/iftab like "eth0 MAC-ADDRESS"10:21
bartistwell i try mepis10:21
bartistsee ya10:21
The_Paranoidstdin: k, thx :)10:21
tHeTrUetheOnethegl10:21
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spawn57The_Paranoid: fill out the detials in /etc/network , you might have to look into a howto for that10:22
stdinThe_Paranoid: look at "man 5 iftab" for more info on it10:22
The_Paranoidk, will do, thx ;)10:22
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Linux_Galoreas*10:22
crazy_busI'm trying to use K wireless manager to connect to a internet connection.  Is there a way to enter a  WPA PSK into it?10:22
ForgeAusfsview is interesting!10:23
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blekosis it possible to have smg in system tray to show my the network connection icons (smg like gnome/ windows have)10:33
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blekosis it possible to have smg in system tray to show my the network connection icons (smg like gnome/ windows have)10:35
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fdovingblekos: yes. for example 'knemo'.10:40
waylandbillfdoving: for some reason I had trouble remembering nemo. All I kept thinking of was nero. ;-D10:40
makuseruhow can i see the version of a program?10:40
makuseruwhats the terminal command10:41
fdovingmakuseru: depends on the program.. which program is this?10:41
makuserufglrx10:42
fdovingthe driver?10:42
makuseruyes10:42
fdovingi'd recommend opening adept manager, and searching for the package in the list, then when you find it click it10:43
makuserui didnt know it was in there10:43
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waylandbillanyone know what gcc will work with a 2.4 kernel os? 3.4?10:55
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stdinwaylandbill: yeah, 3.4 should work10:57
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stamen!agent11:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about agent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:13
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weedarSome python game screwed up my viewport, it is now 640x480, while the resolution is 1024x768. Can I fix this without rebooting or restarting KDE?11:15
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stdinweedar: try switching to TTY1 then back to TTY711:16
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weedardidn't work stdin11:17
stdinweedar: can you change it in System Settings, set it to 640x480 (for example) then back to 1024x76811:18
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weedarstdin: where in system settings? Under "monitor & display" all I get is "the module monitor & display cannot be loaded"11:20
stdinweedar: try Alt-F2 and in there type "kcmshell Peripherals/displayconfig"11:22
weedarstdin: still get "module coudl not be loaded" :/11:23
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stdinweedar: hmm, you may just have to logout and back in then11:24
weedarargh, how annoying :) thanks for your help though stdin11:25
stdinno problem :) something strange has happened if you keep getting "module .... cannot be loaded"11:26
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weedarGot a tip from someone in #kde - krandrtray11:29
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php-freakwhere can I get a text browser at, or can firefox do this?11:29
weedarIt's a realy fancy utility that enables you to change resolution on-the-fly11:29
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stdinphp-freak: you mean in a console ?11:32
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php-freakjust at text based browser11:32
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waylandbilllynx, links, elinks11:33
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kuw88#kuwait11:37
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balintHi everybody! How can i change my K menu to a kbfx one?11:37
balinti select the spinx with kbfxconfig, but no effect, even after restarting X :(11:38
kuw88all the bady use linux?11:38
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balintni idea how to make kbfx working?11:42
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stdinbalint: you need to add it to the panel, it's an applet11:45
Raffydwidmann: i've finish the download :D11:46
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dinosaur-rushi11:46
Raffycan i install it on a SATA disk?11:46
weedarHow can I set a package to be held back, so it doesn't get replaced by other packages?11:46
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stdinRaffy: you can install kubuntu on a SATA, yeah11:48
Raffyi hope that it work :11:48
Raffyi hopeit work* :11:48
Raffyi hope it work* :11:48
RaffyXD11:48
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balintstdin: thx, i guess i remain at the classic menu :)11:51
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stdinbalint: you can remove the old menu if you don't want it11:52
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balintstdin: i know but i dont like the new one, cause they're not transparent11:54
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stdinahh :)11:55
balintstdin: im a big transperancy fan :) and now i would like to fin out if its possible to remove the borders of the "old" K menu. cause if I make it 100% transparent, than the borders arent trans. and they're ugly :(11:56
KennethPWhen installing the webdeveloper 1.0.2 extention on Firefox 2.0.0.1 via Adept on Kubuntu 6.10 I see this 'Not compatible with Firefox 2.0.0.1' message' - the developer claims that it should be... any ideas?11:57
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Raffywhat is swap?11:58
Raffyasd11:58
aakarshfinally irc in firefox11:58
benjamin?11:58
ForgeAuschatzilla?11:58
aakarshyup11:58
ForgeAusits not new11:58
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aakarshdidnt try it before11:59
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ForgeAusmozilla had it for LONG time11:59
aakarshi know :)11:59
aakarshnew to me any way11:59
stdin!swap | Raffy11:59
ubotuRaffy: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info11:59
ForgeAusI still like konversation better11:59
aakarshyeah but chatzilla is ubiquitous11:59
dinosaur-rusdoes anybody know if it'll be possible to use asterisks in Feisty's password boxes?12:00
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TurnTheOtherWayanyone know anything about msec?12:04
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stdinwhat's that?12:05
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TurnTheOtherWaysecurity for mandriva, theyre making one for ubuntu12:06
stdinwhat dose it do exactly ?12:06
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TurnTheOtherWaysets a security level, you type into console and it sets level e.g 3 is a security level for internet ithink12:07
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TurnTheOtherWay!msec12:07
tobias_hello ?12:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about msec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:07
TurnTheOtherWay!usec12:07
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about usec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:08
TurnTheOtherWay!security12:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about security - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:08
TurnTheOtherWaydamn that bot12:08
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tobias_o.o12:09
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tobias_do you think you can help me ? i got a problem with my video-card12:10
stdinlooks like it's only available as an RMP12:10
stdin*RPM12:10
TurnTheOtherWaywhats an rpm?12:10
stdin!rpm12:10
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)12:10
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stdintobias_: what's the problem? and the card?12:11
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esbenstdin: What video card is it, anyway?12:11
stdinesben: huh?12:12
tobias_nvidia 7600 gs ... it doesn#t show that it's there. it's like it doesn't detect there is one12:12
esbenstdin: sorry, misclick :}12:12
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stdintobias_: ls it a PCI card? and if so, does it show in lspci?12:13
tobias_PCIe yes .... what's lspci ?12:13
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stdintobias_: it lists the pci cars you have. in konsole12:13
stdin*cards12:14
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tobias_that#s what it shows 00:0f.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0377 (rev a2)12:14
TurnTheOtherWayalright... being a newb, i could use a little info Quote "Linux makes it easy to construct firewalls that protect your system against hackers ". is a firewall required for kubuntu, and if so how dyou get one?12:14
TurnTheOtherWaysupreme noobety :)12:15
esbentobias_: I run that card or one very similar without problems. You want to install linux-restricted-modules and nvidia-glx12:15
stdinTurnTheOtherWay: you don't *need* one, unless you are running an open server, and it's already installed, built in, you'd just need a frontend, like firestarter12:16
tobias_i did that yesterday i think12:16
stdintobias_: what dose "lspci|grep VGA" show ?12:16
esbentobias_: Very well, try "grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log". Does that give you anything with nvidia in it?12:16
tobias_02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0392 (rev a1)12:17
esbentobias_: Ignore stuff like (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom12:17
tobias_from the first one12:17
TurnTheOtherWaystdin: whats a frontend? and  theres a built-in one?12:17
tobias_tat's all :12:18
tobias_        (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.12:18
tobias_(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER12:18
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stdinTurnTheOtherWay: a frontend is a front end GUI, you just install it, you don't need a frontend to use it, but iptables (the linux firewall) can get complex12:18
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esbentobias_: And grep nvidia /var/log/Xorg.0.log gives you about three lines with (II) in front?12:19
TurnTheOtherWaystdin: where do you get firestarter from? it comes with?12:19
stdintobias_: what dose "lspci|grep VGA" show ? "PCI bridge" is not a graphics vard12:19
stdinTurnTheOtherWay: it's available in the ubuntu repositories, you just install it with adept12:20
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tobias_yes12:20
tobias_three lines with (II)12:20
tobias_02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0392 (rev a1)12:21
TurnTheOtherWaystdin: could you give me a link or instruct for that?12:21
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stdintobias_: so the card is detected12:21
TurnTheOtherWaystdin: ive looked at package installations and they seem somewhat... complicated12:21
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tobias_ok12:22
esbentobias_: Try running glxgears (it is in the mesa-utils) package... if that turns out alright, I rather think the card is working perfectly12:22
esbentobias_: Or do you have a specific reason to why it shouldn't work?12:22
stdinTurnTheOtherWay: it's not, you just open adept, click the package you want, then choose install, then apply. then it's done12:22
tobias_no ... i'll try that now12:22
stdinTurnTheOtherWay: there is, however, a guide here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto12:23
esbentobias_: glxgears -info will print some extra info, if you care12:23
TurnTheOtherWaystdin: tasty, thanks a lot :) ill go install kubuntu lol.12:23
esbentobias_: If it says stuff like : GL_VERSION    = 2.0.2 NVIDIA 87.7612:24
waylandbillaptitude is a nice alternative. It tracks what depedencies are not needed any longer when removing.12:24
stdinTurnTheOtherWay: if you're ever stuck on how to do something in Kubuntu, or need help, this is why we're here :)12:24
TurnTheOtherWaystdin: hopefully next time i have a question i'll be able to ask in while using kubuntu not windows ;)12:25
tobias_hmm it's working12:25
stdinTurnTheOtherWay: I hope so too :)12:26
TurnTheOtherWayi'll probably end up with tobias's problem :o lol. see you in kubuntu all!12:26
tobias_o,O12:26
TurnTheOtherWaylol12:26
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Hughey12:27
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TurnTheOtherWayoh one last thing, does kubuntu come with skype or somesuch attacked?12:27
TurnTheOtherWay*attached12:27
stdinTurnTheOtherWay: no, but there is a simple way to install it, takes 2 mins :)12:27
tobias_hmm but uhm ... i still can't put my resolution higher than 1024X 76812:27
esbentobias_: Probably you x configuration, one sec12:28
stdintobias_: that's nothing to do with the card, that's to do with xorg12:28
stdin!xconf | tobias_12:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xconf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:28
TurnTheOtherWaylol12:28
stdin!xconfig | tobias_12:28
ubotutobias_: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". To configure only the driver and resolution, type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh".12:28
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Hugi wanted to change grub's theme like this: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=29962&forummode=2&forumpage=0&forumexplevel=99 where du i have to place the entry: splashimage=(hd1,0)/boot/grub/grubuntu.xpm.gz in menu.lst12:28
esbenubotu: thanks :)12:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thanks :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:28
stdintobias_: use that command at the end to allow you to go bigger than 1024x76812:29
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TurnTheOtherWaystdin: do you need password for every app you open???12:29
TurnTheOtherWaystdin: it says "select adept, enter your password..."12:29
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Hugdo i have to change other things in the file?12:30
stdinTurnTheOtherWay: no, only the ones that need super user privileges, installing software, changing system configuration, that type of stuff12:30
TurnTheOtherWayahh and thats set on install. k cheers12:31
stdinHug: no, just add it to /boot/grub/menu.lst (best to put it under the part that says "# Pretty colours")12:31
Hughm, ok, without a sharp?12:32
tobias_uhm no it doesn't i think  *noob*12:32
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stdinHug: just add the line as you wrote it here, under that part, you don't put a "#" in12:33
tobias_[ ]  1152x768                                                         12:33
tobias_      [*]  1024x76812:33
Hugkk, thx12:33
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tobias_mhh i gotta go12:34
tobias_bye bye12:34
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buzis there a way to get hyphenation for en-us in openoffice on edgy?12:36
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Ash-FoxIs it normal to get this message in apt-build when building packages?: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!?12:44
Ash-FoxWell, actually, when installing them after building them (apt-build install)12:44
stdinAsh-Fox: yeah, that's normal12:45
Ash-FoxThanks.. A bit missleading to fail on that though12:46
stdinAsh-Fox: it's because it's looking for your GPG key (as you built the package)12:47
Ash-FoxOh I understand, it's just a bit puzzling why they didn't get it to ignore the error in the first case.. after all you just typed 'apt-buld install <package>'12:48
Ash-Foxerr warning12:48
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waylandbillstdin: if you have a GPG key, will it know to use it?12:49
Ash-Foxwaylandbill, I'm guessing it needs to in the root account, because it certainly didn't use the gpg key set in my user account :P12:50
stdindepends on how you have it set up, sometimes it'll build as root, and root won't have a key12:50
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waylandbillstdin: right. didn't think of that.12:50
stdinyou could copy your ~/.gnupg dir to /root (and make sure the permissions are set up right), then I think it would use your key12:51
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waylandbillI've never used it, but might check it out. Don't know how much benefit is gained optimizing anything outside the kernel though.12:52
stdinas long as you make sure to set it to use your name & email address in the maintainer field12:52
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stdinI use 'checkinstall' it's easier for single apps imo12:52
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waylandbillI've used checkinstall, but adept then wants to notify that there is an update. :-D12:53
stdinthen give it a stupid version number, like "99999" :P12:54
Ash-Fox"subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 10" argh...12:54
waylandbillyeah but then it'll never notify when a newer comes available12:54
Ash-FoxI hate working on systems that have barely any of the dev files installed, always weird bugs like this12:55
stdinwaylandbill: then make you mind up what you want :P12:55
waylandbillhehe12:55
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stdinAsh-Fox: check the pre-install script for where it may be failing12:55
tobias_hmm there is still nothing working as it should :/12:56
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andreaswKubuntu changed my xorg.conf without any reason to vesa and set the keyboard to us (from de) why?12:57
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stdinandreasw: it wouldn't do it "for no reason"12:58
andreaswstdin: it did12:58
andreaswstdin: I did not change any hardware12:58
andreaswstdin: And I also did not change my german keyboard to an us one ^12:58
andreasw^12:58
stdinandreasw: a user must have done something to change it, the system can't just change itself like that12:58
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andreaswstdin: It can like a realized after starting my computer this morning I had that changes in my xorg.conf12:59
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stdinandreasw: the system it's self won't do it, a user has to do something to make it do it, have you reconfigured you're xserver ?01:00
andreaswstdin: No I didn't reconfigure it. And I wouldn't also set the keyboard to us and my graphic card driver to vesa because I have a nvidia card and put nvidia in there.01:01
andreaswI always configure xorg.conf with vim01:01
stdinandreasw: just change it back, something a user did made the system change it01:02
andreaswstdin: I already did that but I can't get it why my xorg.conf was replaced01:03
stdinandreasw: either someone installed something that changed it, or ran a command to change it. It wouldn't have changes on its own, it can't01:04
waylandbillit has to be something that was done as the super user for sure.01:04
tobias_o,O i still can't put my resolution higher than 1024X 768 ... i really doN#t know what to do01:05
andreaswstdin: and what should that be?01:05
stdinandreasw: check your logs: /var/log/auth.log01:05
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andreaswstdin: I work here alone at the computer and nobody can connect to the computer via ssh for example so nobody changed the config file01:06
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waylandbilllike stdin said. check the auth.log. it had to be done as root.01:07
andreaswI already did that and o wonder nobody had changed it01:07
waylandbillI can't think of anything that would just change it without someone initiating some command01:08
andreaswBut I see there is no use to discuss any longer here because nobody will believe that I didn't make any changes myself and I don't know which of my installed packages should change the xorg.conf01:08
stdinkubuntu can't just decide to change ti, somebody or some command/script changed it01:08
hak5fanHi.... I think I managed to install the drivers for my Nvidia Gfx card I used this "guide": http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=421665&highlight=nvidia+version+mismatch+x+window01:10
hak5fanhow can I make sure the drivers are really installed01:10
stdinhak5fan: what dose "modprobe -l nvidia" show ?01:11
andreaswJan 14 12:46:28 andyskiste python2.4: Graphics card hardware has changed. Reconfiguring xorg.conf using 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'.01:12
andreaswJan 14 12:46:30 andyskiste python2.4: dpkg-reconfigure:01:12
andreaswJan 14 12:46:30 andyskiste python2.4: Writing graphics card hardware list to /var/lib/guidance/guidance-gfxhardware-snapshot01:12
hak5fan2 sec01:12
andreaswaptitude is my dear friend01:12
hak5fanobbs copied two much there01:13
andreaswor some program which produces this line01:13
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andreaswSo please don't tell me only the user can change the xorg.conf01:14
stdinwhen did I say ONLY a user can change it?01:14
hak5fan"/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko"01:14
stdinI said a user or script01:14
andreaswstdin: Well you said the system doesn't do this without a user01:14
stdinand I was right, it as a script01:14
stdinhak5fan: then it's installed01:14
andreaswstdin: andreasw: a user must have done something to change it, the system can't just change itself like that01:15
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hak5fanthanx01:15
andreaswandreasw: I just checked the time it was at the system start01:15
andreaswlol01:15
andreasw@ stdin01:15
stdinandreasw: and what initiated the script to run?01:15
andreaswstdin: I am here to ask that maybe a script in a runlevel01:16
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andreaswstdin: I am no kubuntu expert but I will check out the scripts probably there is a hardware detection script01:16
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andreaswstdin: which is run at every startup01:16
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andreaswunfortunatelly the log only says python01:19
stdinandreasw: /etc/init.d/kde-guidance which runs /usr/share/python-support/kde-guidance/displayconfig-hwprobe.py , it detects changes in hardware01:19
andreaswstdin: ah ok01:19
stdinandreasw: so it must have detected a change for some reason01:19
stdinandreasw: and gone and reconfigured the xorg.conf file01:20
andreaswstdin: ok now I know the reason01:20
andreaswstdin: And you know that the system can make such crazy things ;)01:20
stdinandreasw: but you didn't change the hardware ?01:20
andreaswstdin: No I didn't01:20
stdinandreasw: then it shouldn't have changed it ??01:21
andreaswstdin: Thats what I want to say all the time hehe01:21
stdinandreasw: it's only used for when you change graphics hardware01:21
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andreaswstdin: So it is a bug01:21
stdinandreasw: you said it changed it for no reason, it thought it had a reason :P01:22
andreaswstdin: which most probable is not repruduceable and so it is hard to fill out a bug report01:22
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stdinandreasw: true, bur report it anyway, giving as much info as possible, and copies of logs01:23
andreaswdapper had less bugs01:24
andreasw;)01:24
stdinI'm on feisty, so far it's stable :)01:25
andreaswyes if you don't look in the depth ^01:25
andreaswI had here kwalletbug, console font bug, hw detection bug01:25
stdinandreasw: if you look at the bugs for feisty, there aren't that many01:26
balintcan i run the msn messenger with wine? :D01:26
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andreaswstdin: not so many found ^^01:26
stdinbalint: why not use kopete ?01:26
andreaswstdin: but I should install it in vmware to check if at least some edgy bugs don't exist there01:26
balintstdin: i am using kopete, but kopete yet is stupid :)01:26
balintstdin: for example i cnt save the animated emoticons that i recieve01:27
andreaswbalint: I like it very much01:27
stdinandreasw: is your hard disk (P)ATA?01:27
balintstdin: only the default smileys can be used :(01:27
andreaswstdin: no it isn't01:27
balintandreasw: can you save the custom emoticons?01:28
andreaswbalint: no I don't care about such eye candy ^^01:28
stdinandreasw: was going to warn you, everything is scsi in feisty, so your hda would be sda :P01:28
andreaswstdin: also normal IDE drives?01:28
balintandreasw: but is it possible?01:29
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stdinandreasw: yes, even normal IDE https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks01:29
andreaswbalint: I don't know but I think if you can't receive it it won't work01:29
balintwell i can recieve them, i see them, i just cant save them :(01:30
andreaswstdin: back to the old days where you had to SCSI emulate your IDE burner to work for linux01:30
Xeracustom emotes suck anyway01:30
balintXera: :D but i used to use them :)01:30
Xerathey're so damn annoying01:31
XeraxD01:31
stdinandreasw: I remember, now you'll have everything on a SCSI layer01:31
andreaswstdin: Can you still change settings with hdparm because it only works with IDE drives01:31
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balintXera: well there are sometimes, but i dont use them in every word, so i dont change leters to emoticons...01:31
andreaswstdin: I think I should go back to debian, less crazy changes to the system ;)01:32
Xerabalint: lol01:32
stdinandreasw: don't know about hdparm, I haven't tried yet, but I doubt it works anymore01:33
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andreaswstdin: How will I then change multiple sector cound to 16?01:34
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andreaswstdin: Because that increases system responsability a lot under high hd load01:34
hak5fanI have some more problems with my installation.... When I try to boot ubuntu my pc just restarts... this happens excatly 50% of the time...01:34
hak5fanvery strange don't you think?01:34
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andreaswhak5fan: Check your RAM with memtest86+01:35
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stdinandreasw: I haven't had a chance to read over the wiki page yet, only got the link a few mins ago, maybe it's not needed01:35
andreaswhak5fan: You can do that by selecting it from the boo menu at system startup01:35
hak5fanok ill do that... btw how do you adress people in irc?01:36
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hak5fanlike you just did01:36
andreaswstdin: I hope so because if you can't change it it would be a big backstep01:36
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Xerahak5fan: type part of the name then press tab01:36
Xeralike hak *tab* = hak5fan01:36
hak5fanXera: tnx01:36
Xeranp01:37
andreaswI also don't understand why my second network device is eth2 and not eth101:37
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stdinandreasw: If I don't find out from the wiki, I'll ask in #ubuntu+1 later, see if they have an answer01:37
kkosmosomeone can help me01:37
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kkosmo?01:37
andreaswstdin: ok01:38
andreaswkkosmo: Tell us your problem otherwise we can't know if we can help you01:38
kkosmosomone can help how i can print in printer lexmark z6100 what i need to do01:38
kkosmoi am in kubuntu 6.1001:39
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andreaswkkosmo: go to system settings and configure it there01:39
tobias_hmm i still have problems with my video card ... appearently everything is installed and it detects the card but i can't put my resolution higher01:39
kkosmoyes but there no have this printer01:39
andreaswkkosmo: You will find that in the k-menu01:39
kkosmoin the list01:39
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andreaswhmm01:39
andreaswkkosmo: Did you also google?01:40
kkosmono01:40
kkosmohelp01:40
andreaswthe probelm is that I don't have that printer and so I don't know which driver you need or whether it is not supported01:41
waylandbillmay not be a supported model.01:41
kkosmook i fing01:41
kkosmofind01:41
kkosmothat printerr01:41
kkosmosec01:41
RythanSpeaking of printers, does anyone have experience with the Turboprint driver?01:42
waylandbilllinuxprinting.org is usually a good place to start.01:42
kkosmolook in the model01:42
kkosmoi dont find my printer01:42
matthiashi01:43
waylandbilljust because a printer can be bought doesn't mean it's supported under Linux, so you may be out of luck01:43
kkosmoi think that printer supported in linux01:43
kkosmoi have the list01:43
kkosmoof the printers that not supported01:43
matthiasi want to use my pda with gnome! i got a connection, but i've got a  last question. the tutorial sais i have to open some ports on the firewall, what must i do to open them?01:43
kkosmoand my priner01:44
matthiasfollowing ports: 5678:tcp, 5679:tcp, 990:tcp01:44
kkosmonot in this list01:44
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Xeramatthias: unless you installed a firewall there isn't one01:44
matthiashmm ok01:44
matthiasthx01:44
matthiasno iptables?01:44
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Xeradunno01:45
matthiasXera: ok01:45
ctd_Dear Experts , Need help with upping the screen resolution. Hardware .... Samsung 940BW Monitor supports 1440x900, Motherboard Intel 946GZIS , GMA3000 . Current resolution @ 1280x1024. Need help , tried editing xorg.conf , did no good.01:45
tobias_hey i got more or less the same problem01:45
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Xeractd_: ctrl alt - or +01:45
ctd_Xera : Did not understand that.01:46
Xerapress ctrl + alt + "+"01:46
ctd_When and where ?01:46
kkosmohi someone how i can format partition from the linux01:46
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kkosmo?01:46
ctd_Tobias_ : Do you have a similar problem with resolution etc ?01:47
Xerakkosmo: use cfdisk01:47
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tobias_ctd: yes01:47
Xeractd_: just press it, it'll change your resolution01:47
stdinkkosmo: what do you want format it as ?01:47
ctd_Xera : Just tried it , did not good.01:48
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Xeractd_: hmm01:48
tobias_nor did it here01:48
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Xerawell it works here01:48
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ctd_Hmm01:48
Xerapress Ctrl and Alt and plus or minus, not the ones under the f keys, the ones on the numpad01:49
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tobias_i did that o,O01:49
Xeraum01:49
ctd_yes , thats what I tried , no luck.01:49
ctd_Ok , I am running Kubuntu01:49
ctd_KDE01:49
Xerasame01:49
tobias_same here01:49
Xeralol01:49
tobias_lol01:50
XeraQt: 3.3.601:50
XeraKDE: 3.5.201:50
Xerakde-config: 1.001:50
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stdinctd_: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" then choose the resolutions you want to be able to use01:50
ctd_Hmm , my guess is that there has to be tweak made to the xorg.conf with appropriate settings , just need to find the right settings. So far I hve put it the recommended vertical and horizontal refresh freqs etc.01:50
ctd_stdin : Are you a bot ?01:51
stdinctd_: no :P01:51
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ctd_:) Thank god !01:51
Xera!resolution01:51
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:51
stdin!xconfig01:51
ubotuTo reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". To configure only the driver and resolution, type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh".01:51
ctd_stdin , let me try that , I am sure ubotu is a bot :)01:52
Xerawell duh01:52
XeraXD01:52
stdin!bot01:52
Xera!botsnack01:52
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots01:52
ubotuYum!01:52
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kkosmo!printers01:52
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows01:52
balinti read somewhere that i can use pictures instead of usernames on login screen. how can i set that?01:52
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XeraO_o?01:53
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ctd_tobias_ : Did you try the reco from stdin ?01:54
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tobias_could you give me that command again _01:55
ctd_sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh01:55
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ctd_Hopefully if this works , I will get a new name , so far ctd has stood for crash test and die.01:55
tobias_mhh01:55
tobias_debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process01:55
ctd_Hmm , perhaps you have some other installation or upgrade in progress.01:56
stdintobias_: try: sudo fuser -k /var/cache/debconf/config.dat01:56
ctd_stdin : what does fuser do ?01:57
tobias_   /var/cache/debconf/config.dat:  586901:57
stdinctd_: kills the process that's locked the file01:57
ctd_thx01:57
ctd_I can't wait to restart X now , thanks for your help. Bye01:57
tobias_ok and how do i enable another resolution there ?01:57
fdovingfuser -vki is nice. it'll ask you if you want to kill the process locking the file01:57
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matthiashi everybody...i got some source from an svn an now i have to make ./bootstrap do i need some packages for bootstrap?01:58
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rolandohola01:58
tobias_there are only 3 ones with a [*] 01:58
rolandois there a way to return to the default xorg settings automatically?01:59
stdintobias_: select the ones you want to use, space bar selects them01:59
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matthiasrolando: you coult exec: dpkg-reconfigure xorg01:59
tobias_ahh thnx01:59
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matthiasthen you are asked the default questions and a new xorg.conf is written02:00
rolandobecause i f*ucked up something and now when i try glxinfo my pc just freezes02:00
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stdinrolando: use sudo before the command02:00
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matthiasoh yes sry: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg02:00
stdinmatthias: and it's "xserver-xorg" not "xorg"02:01
rolandothe sudo i knew thanx :)02:01
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rolandobut you see this is not automatic02:01
jose__hi all, one basic question... how cannot make gizmo start automaticly when i turn on kubuntu. Anyone could help?02:01
rolandoi have to answer a lot of technical questions02:01
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tobias_uhm and how do i make it stay like that ? when i press enter  and restart it it's the same it was before ... *stupid*02:01
makuseruwhere can i get ATI Radeon Drivers02:02
rolandowhat driver i want ati or radeon?02:02
matthiasok so it would be: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"02:02
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matthias!ati02:02
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:02
jose__sorry, i meant "I", not "how" :;D02:02
stdinjose__: in Konqueror, go to "~/.kde/Autostart" and add a link to application there that points to gizmo02:02
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jose__thanks stdin!02:02
matthiasstdin: is there an Autostart folder for gnome?02:03
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stdinmatthias: no, but there is another method to do it02:03
kkosmo!games02:03
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org02:03
kkosmolol02:03
Xera"The model number for your Radeon card is a 9500 pro or above" damn, so my radeon 9250 won't work? :(02:03
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tobias_stdin ... how i make it stay like that (with the resolution) ... i can select the ones i want and press enter but it just stays the way it is02:03
stdin!autostart | matthias02:03
ubotumatthias: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.02:04
stdinmatthias: I guess ubotu only shows the KDE way in here :P02:04
Xera!gnomeautostart02:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gnomeautostart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:04
Xera>:02:04
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stdinmatthias: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup02:04
TurnTheOtherWaySTDIN. need, a little help02:05
kkosmo!skim02:05
stdintobias_: did you restart the X server after ?02:05
ctd_Hello stdid , tobian02:05
ubotuskim: smart common input method platform for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1216 kB, installed size 2620 kB02:05
matthiasstdin: ok thx02:05
tobias_hmm i'll do so02:05
stdinTurnTheOtherWay: yes?02:05
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ctd_Did not work ,02:05
kkosmosomone can tell me what i can do with skim02:05
kkosmo?02:05
TurnTheOtherWaystdin: i installed kubuntu and grub has error 2 so no OS atg all, and no usage for comp02:05
ctd_in fact it got worse , only resolution it picked up was 1024x76802:05
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weedarTouching the edges of my touchpad causes scrolling, how can I prevent this?02:06
matthiasstdin i joined ubuntu. there ubotu shows the right ;-) thx same link as yours02:06
Xeraweedar: it's supposed to do that xD02:06
stdinctd_: if it's an intel chip, you may need the  915resolution package, I do02:06
makuseruare there drivers for ATI cards older than 8500?02:06
tobias_ah thank you a lo stdin :)02:06
TurnTheOtherWaystdin: no windows either. i think it may have deleted it though i dont know how that wouldve happened02:06
ctd_Tobian : Did you manage to update the resol. to 1440x900 ?02:07
ctd_Tobias !  Sorry02:07
Xeracan someone help me setup my ati 9250? i get 1fps in opengl >:(02:07
weedarXera: it is insanely annoying, causes the pointer to move when it shouldn't02:07
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tobias_yes02:07
stdinTurnTheOtherWay: windows is probably still there, try reinstalling grub, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows02:07
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ctd_Do you have i915 driver or did you choose i810 ?02:07
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matthiasstdin: is there a way to get all ubotu cmds?02:08
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thomas_servus02:08
stdinmatthias: just search the website http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/02:08
mildnerhello anybody here for help on dbv?02:08
TurnTheOtherWaystdin: terminal command is alt f2?02:08
matthiasstdin: thx02:08
tobias_ctd are you talking to me ?02:09
makuseruare there drivers for ATI Radeon cards older than 8500?02:09
stdinTurnTheOtherWay: no, that's the run dialogue, Konsole (terminal) is in Kmenu -> System -> Konsile02:09
ctd_Tobias : yes ! sorry02:09
stdinTurnTheOtherWay: *Konsole02:09
tobias_cdt : i got a nvidia card ... i got no i810 driver afak02:09
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ctd_Ok , thanks , let me try and hopefully some day I will be able to run this @ 1440x90002:10
ctd_Thanks for all your help stdin , tobia and Xera02:10
ctd_bye02:10
Xerabye02:10
tobias_bye02:10
mildnerany help available on dbv?02:11
TurnTheOtherWaystdin: i have no file "stage1"02:11
TurnTheOtherWayerror 15: file not found kinda thing02:11
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stdinTurnTheOtherWay: can you reinstall again? and make sure to install grub on the MBR (Master Boot Record) of the disk02:12
TurnTheOtherWayhow do you install it to mbr?02:13
stdinTurnTheOtherWay: It will be an option on the installer02:13
TurnTheOtherWaystdin: k ill try that02:13
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matthiashi i need a package which is installed but i dont know were, i thought there is a toole like which but i didn't find it02:15
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Raffyhi02:15
matthiasi'm searching the path of: gnome-vfs-2.002:15
Raffykubuntu after the install give me the error 1702:15
Raffycannot load aprtition02:16
Raffypartition*02:16
stdinmatthias: if you know the package name, you can list all the files in it with "dpkg --listfiles PackageName"02:16
Raffyalso the SATA HD (where i've installed linux) go every for first HD02:16
Raffybut the master HD is the IDE and in the boot men is the IDE first Hard Disk02:17
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TurnTheOtherWaystdin: says GRUB will be installed to (hd0)02:17
stdinTurnTheOtherWay: yeah, that's right then02:17
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TurnTheOtherWaystdin: i did that the same wy last time, got error 2 on boot02:18
TurnTheOtherWayno load02:18
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balintstdin: can i change the names of partitons in linux, from hda1... to the letters in win?02:18
stdinTurnTheOtherWay: try installing grub to the partition then02:19
stdinbalint: you mean mount them as win?02:19
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Xerawtf, i can't get any programs to start, konqueror, amarok, kopete02:19
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Xerai just get the bouncing icon on the cursor and that's it02:19
balintstdin: yes because the playlist files store them like D, C E...02:19
Raffyare u sure that linux work on SATA HD? :'(02:20
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XeraRaffy: works fine here02:20
Raffyon my maxtor 250GB02:20
Raffydon't work02:20
stdinbalint: if you edit the entry in /etc/fstab and change the mount point to /media/win (for example) then make the directory in /media, that will do it02:21
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Raffyalso don't work the maxtor...02:21
TurnTheOtherWaystdin: i would if i could see my cursor lol. ithink it was you suggested that i use a command... "komshell mouse" or something but the cmd isnt recognised02:21
ZaggynlThis is odd, NeroLinux can burn at 16x, but k3b cannot :/02:21
stdinTurnTheOtherWay: kcmshell mouse02:21
TurnTheOtherWaystdin: once in config screen then what?02:22
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wolfwalkerWOW, I forgot how bad these options were in this script!02:23
balintstdin: so in fstab just rename them?02:23
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wolfwalkerOkay, I have a computer running Kubuntu, and I have a .deb file that is supposed to install Audacity music editor.......... so what do I do with the .deb file?02:24
Gentixhow do i get the 3D stuff on my unichrome chip working???02:24
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stdinTurnTheOtherWay: use the tab key to change to the "Cursor Theme" tab, and try changing the theme02:24
stdinbalint: yeah02:24
matthiashow do i set an enviroment var?02:24
matthiasset $var=value?02:24
stdinwolfwalker: why don't you install the version in Adept ?02:24
wolfwalkerAdept?02:25
stdinmatthias: no, just do "var=value"02:25
wolfwalkerI'm a linux newb, what are you talking about?02:25
Zaggynlwolfwalker, open it02:25
stdin!adept | wolfwalker02:25
ubotuwolfwalker: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto02:25
wolfwalkerOh goody02:25
wolfwalkerThanks, I'll try that02:25
TurnTheOtherWayyoure a lucky newb mine doesnt work :p02:25
wolfwalkerSave y'all a lot of typing if it's already in a wiki02:25
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balintstdin:02:26
balint# /dev/hda502:26
balintUUID=14C09736C0971D54 /media/hda502:26
TurnTheOtherWaystdin: i try to change theme it closes window and does nthing.02:26
balintstdin: and where change? after # /dev/hda5? or     /media/hda5?02:27
stdinbalint: you change part with /media/hda5 to /media/win (for example). then make that directory with "sudo mkdir /media/win"02:27
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stdinTurnTheOtherWay: try restarting it, the install CD that is02:28
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balintstdin: and what if i just rename /media/hda5 to /media/D      ?02:28
TurnTheOtherWaystdin: just restart kubuntu? as in go to the "turn off" screen and select restart?02:28
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stdinbalint: then just so what I said, but replace /media/win with /media/D02:29
stdinTurnTheOtherWay: yeah02:29
balintstdin: so just a simple rename right? :)02:29
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stdinbalint: yep :)02:30
TurnTheOtherWaystdin: doesnt the livecd thing not save changes?02:30
Xerahttp://www.clipmarks.com/clipmark/28280FB2-D4CE-4204-8F7D-45D3988622CD/ has anybody tried that?02:30
balintstdin: this wont affect the partiton right?02:30
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balintstdin: so no problems in win02:30
stdinTurnTheOtherWay: you can restart the install after you reboot, but you should have courser then02:30
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stdinbalint: it won't touch the partition, just where it's mounted to in linux02:31
balintstdin: okay02:31
TurnTheOtherWayv nice. cept the bloody kubuntu cd wont reboot the comp by itself so i have to use power button ><02:31
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stdinTurnTheOtherWay: sorry but I need to go for a while, need to run some errands, i'll be back later02:32
TurnTheOtherWaystdin: right lol02:32
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TurnTheOtherWaybye02:32
stdincya :)02:32
TurnTheOtherWayanyone else here know a lot about kubuntu?02:33
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TurnTheOtherWay:O02:34
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TurnTheOtherWayhowd you do that wolf?02:34
wolfwalkerType /me jumps up and down02:34
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bubu1uk:p02:35
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wolfwalkerSo I opened Adept, but couldn't figure how to get it to even look at the .deb file. Then I right click on the .deb file and tell it to open with Adept.......... and it just sits there02:35
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TurnTheOtherWaylol02:35
TurnTheOtherWaystdins gone so you may recieve less help02:35
wolfwalkerAdept seems mostly concerned with going online, but it's not on the net02:36
TurnTheOtherWayDAMNIT02:36
bubu1ukwolfwalker: u tryin just to install .deb package?02:36
TurnTheOtherWaymy cursor is invisible again :(02:36
wolfwalkerYesh02:36
wolfwalkerSpecifically, Audacity music editor02:36
bubu1ukwolfwalker: sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb02:36
wolfwalkerEh?02:37
wolfwalkerWhassat?02:37
bubu1ukwolfwalker: or try sudo apt-get install audacity02:37
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wolfwalkerWhere do I type this?02:37
bubu1ukdpkg is part of synaptic package manager.02:37
wolfwalkerAh02:37
bubu1ukkonsole02:37
wolfwalkerYes TurnTheOtherWay, I already said that02:37
wolfwalkerI am a nooblet02:37
wolfwalkerI am the newest of the newbs02:38
bubu1ukwolfwalker: dont' let it put u down. ;)02:38
wolfwalkerGot it out of your system yet, or should we continue?02:38
TurnTheOtherWaybut one witha working kubuntu :(02:38
wolfwalkerSo reinstall02:38
wolfwalkerI bittorrented the latest, Efty Erst02:38
TurnTheOtherWayim trying but i have an invisible cursor which makes it hard02:38
wolfwalkerYou don't have the iso cd still?02:38
TurnTheOtherWayim using the iso02:39
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TurnTheOtherWaywell not on this02:39
wolfwalkerInvisible curser, that's probably just a minor glitch. Reboot and see if it fixes it02:39
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wolfwalkerAnyway, I type that sudo stuff where?02:39
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balintstdin: not working02:39
TurnTheOtherWayive rebooted many times and got advice from stdin but it doesnt work :/02:39
bubu1ukwolfwalker: konsole, command line.02:40
bubu1ukopen konsole02:40
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balintstdin: renamed hda5 to D but...  in linux its still hda5 and shows like nothing would be on the partition02:40
TurnTheOtherWayi have cunning plan: ill click blindly until i hit the grub link02:40
TurnTheOtherWaygot it :)02:41
balintoh stdin is not here:(02:41
TurnTheOtherWaynope02:41
bubu1ukbalint: what u tryin to do?02:41
TurnTheOtherWayanyone at all: if you dont install to (hd0) then where to?02:41
balinti want to rename the hda5 to D, like in win, cause my playlist files are absolute pathed, and dont work02:41
bubu1ukbalint: u mean /media/hda5 to /media/D?02:42
balintyepp02:42
bubu1ukbalint: u can rename that directory, then u'll have to setup /etc/fstab to point to /media/D instead /media/hda502:42
balintyes i modified the fstab already02:43
bubu1ukTurnTheOtherWay: can u tell me what's ur problem? came here later.02:43
wolfwalkerNo luck02:43
bubu1ukbalint: did u remount?02:43
balinthow can i do that? :)02:43
bubu1ukwolfwalker: r u connected to internet?02:43
wolfwalkerNo. That's why I'm using a .deb file to install it02:44
bubu1ukbalint: sudo umount /media/hda502:44
bubu1ukbalint: then sudo mount /media/D02:44
balintthx i try it out02:44
bubu1ukwolfwalker: dpkg didnt help?02:44
TurnTheOtherWaybubu1uk: grub fails on boot with error 2. so no startup, im trying to find out where to put it02:44
wolfwalkerdpkg?02:44
bubu1ukwolfwalker: sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb02:45
wolfwalkerOkay, I have Kubuntu running, I downloaded a .deb file of Audacity music editor, and I don't know what to do next.02:45
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wolfwalkerOh, and I'm a total newb02:45
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balintmount point /media/D does not exist02:45
wolfwalkerSo what do I do with the .deb file?02:45
bubu1ukbalint: u have D directory created in /media?02:45
wolfwalkerDo I hit a / before the sudo, or just type that straight?02:45
balintups :) no :)02:46
wolfwalkerAnd is package name the file name?02:46
balintthat can only be done from konsole?02:46
bubu1ukwolfwalker: type exactly this >> sudo dpkg -i /home/user/debianpackage.deb (or whereever u have package)02:47
bubu1ukbalint: what?02:47
bubu1ukTurnTheOtherWay: u should have grub in MBR so hd002:47
balinti made the directory now, and mounted but nothing :(02:47
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balintmust reboot?02:47
bubu1ukbalint: no02:48
bubu1ukbalint: so u have /media/D now02:48
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balintyes02:48
TurnTheOtherWaybubu1uk: when i install it to hd0 it fails with error 2 when the comp boots.02:48
bubu1ukbalint: check if there's line bout hda5 in fstab02:48
bubu1ukTurnTheOtherWay: have u googled for grub error 2 what it it?02:49
balintno, nothing about hda502:49
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TurnTheOtherWayoh hell.02:50
bubu1ukhttp://www.uruk.org/orig-grub/errors.html02:50
bubu1ukbalint: sec.02:50
TurnTheOtherWaythat is bad. error 2 appears to be "selected disk doesnt exist"02:50
balintbubulk: oh i got it!!!!02:50
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Xeraif i f*ck up X one more time i shall cry02:51
Xera>:02:51
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balintbubu1uk: just had to unmount again02:51
balintbubu1uk: funny because it said its not mounted... then why unmount again? :S02:51
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LameBMX!pastebin02:51
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)02:51
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balintanyway now its fine02:51
bubu1ukbalint: so works?02:51
balintyepp02:52
bubu1ukk then.02:52
bubu1uk;)02:52
balinthow can i remove the hda5 from media?02:52
bubu1ukTurnTheOtherWay: yup, where is grub pointing to be /boot partition?02:52
wolfwalkerThe annoying newb has returned02:52
bubu1ukbalint: sudo rm /media/hda502:52
wolfwalkerNo luck02:52
TurnTheOtherWaybubu1uk: what does that mean?02:53
wolfwalkerI typed in just what you said in the command line02:53
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matthew_!mount02:53
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter02:53
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matthew_!iso02:53
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn02:53
wolfwalkerAparently sudo is pseudo and adept is only adept at ignoring me02:53
bubu1ukbalint: u might do rmdir.02:53
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balintoh man:( im so sad02:54
balintthis didnt resolve my problem02:54
bubu1ukwolfwalker: where in system u have that .deb package?02:54
balintcause the path is still media/D/...02:54
wolfwalkerOn the desktop02:54
balinti guess i cant mount D like the root folder right?02:54
wolfwalkerI copied it from a flash drive and it's sitting on the desktop and I can't figure out what to do with it02:54
bubu1ukbalint: dont understand02:54
bubu1ukwolfwalker: in command line "pwd" command02:55
bubu1ukwhat it gives u02:55
balintbubu1uk: so in the playlist the path is like this: D:\folder\folder...music.mp302:55
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bubu1ukbalint: u might need to change ownership02:55
balint?02:55
bubu1ukbalint: ah, now i get u.02:55
balintwhats that?02:56
bubu1ukbalint: nope u cant do anything. u'll have to change playlist file02:56
bubu1ukbalint: :)02:56
balintwahahhhhhhhhhhh02:56
bubu1ukbalint: linux doesnt deal with dir tree like win02:56
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balintthan maybe i make the changes back to hda5 :)02:56
wolfwalkerIt gives me nothing. The run command line dissapeared and nothing else happened02:56
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bubu1ukTurnTheOtherWay: what u have in /boot/grub/menu.lst02:58
wolfwalkerJust for the record: All these commands are supposed to be entered by going to the main menu, Actions, Run Command, and enter the command there?02:58
bubu1ukwolfwalker: nope02:58
wolfwalker......02:58
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bubu1ukwolfwalker: go to menu>system>terminal (or konsole, whatever it gives u)02:58
hak5fanHi again everybody... I've tested my memory using memtest86+ and no errors were found, I still get these strange reboots when trying to start kubuntu... I also get an error message saying something about can't read CTR while initializing i84002:59
bubu1ukbalint: doenst really matter what u call it. its just for u to recognize. u can call it either /media/windows03:00
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bubu1ukwolfwalker: found that konsole?03:00
daveHi, I'm an "intermediate" user (ie not quite newbie), and I would like to know if it is possible to change the properties of the system folders so that they are no longer hidden.03:00
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TurnTheOtherWaybubu1uk: menu.1st?03:01
wolfwalkerOkie dokie!03:01
wolfwalkerI finally found the command prompt!03:01
TurnTheOtherWayor lst?03:01
TurnTheOtherWayl103:01
bubu1uki think it's menu.lst not 1st03:01
wolfwalkerSo now, I have an audacity package on my desktop, a .deb file03:01
TurnTheOtherWayah they look the same l and 103:01
bubu1ukTurnTheOtherWay: lol03:01
wolfwalkerSo now that I actually know where the command prompt is, and I have the file, what do I do?03:01
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TurnTheOtherWayerm03:02
hak5fanHi again everybody... I've tested my memory using memtest86+ and no errors were found, I still get these strange reboots when trying to start kubuntu... I also get an error message saying something about can't read CTR while initializing i840 what could cause these errors03:02
bubu1ukwolfwalker: command cd /home/username/Desktop03:02
bubu1ukwolfwalker: and then command ls03:02
XeraW000T 4975 frames in 5.0 seconds = 994.937 FPS03:02
Xerafinally opengl is working03:02
Xera:D03:02
bubu1ukdoes it give u in output name of that package?03:02
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TurnTheOtherWaybubu1uk: kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available! i tried to open it with kate03:03
wolfwalkerI have the name of that package, if that's what you mean. It's a deb file on my desktop.03:03
bubu1ukTurnTheOtherWay: try nano03:03
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bubu1ukwolfwalker: go to that directory i told u. /home/user/Desktop03:03
TurnTheOtherWaybubu1uk: its empty03:03
TurnTheOtherWaythe file03:03
balintwell bubu1uk i hate absolute paths from now on :)03:04
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wolfwalkerWith "user" being my user name?03:04
bubu1ukbalint: lol03:04
daveHi, I'm an "intermediate" user (ie not quite newbie), and I would like to know if it is possible to change the properties of the system folders so that they are no longer hidden. Thanks, Dave03:04
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bubu1ukwolfwalker: yes, of course03:04
wolfwalkerToldja I was a newb03:04
wolfwalkerGotta go shower and get ready for church03:04
wolfwalkerThanks03:04
wolfwalkerI shall return: You have Been Warned!03:04
bubu1ukdave: u might need to make them world visible03:04
andreasw_wegdave: yes delte /.hidden03:05
balintbubu1uk you would say the same if you would have about 60GB music, and the playlist wont work :)03:05
andreasw_wegdave: delete I mean ^03:05
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TurnTheOtherWaybalint: lmao nice03:05
bubu1ukbalint: what u using to play music?03:05
balintbubu1uk on linux i use amarok03:05
balintxms sucks03:05
balintxmms03:05
Xera__FGLTexMgrCreateObject: __FGLTexMgrSHMmalloc failed!!!03:05
XerafglX11AllocateManagedSurface: __FGLTexMgrCreateObject failed!!03:05
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Xera:?03:05
joshyanyone here has experiences with xen03:05
bubu1ukbalint: u can setup amaroks configuration to automaticly search for ur music folders.03:06
hak5fanDoes anyone know why my machine reboots when I try to boot into kubuntu.. It doesn't always happen, but sometimes.... I've tested my memory with mtest86+ no errors but I'm getting this error. Can't read CTR while initializing i84003:06
balintbubu1uk did you see xmms's file browsing design? :D03:06
balintbubu1uk lik win 3.11 :)03:06
bubu1ukbalint: yes,03:06
TurnTheOtherWaylol03:06
balintterrible :)03:06
TurnTheOtherWaywho desnt like 3.11?03:07
XeraXD?03:07
daveandreas, I'm looking at /usr (in konqueror), and there is no sign of a ./hidden file03:07
andreasw_wegdave: it is in /03:07
hak5fanI can't think of any way to fix my problem03:07
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bubu1ukbalint: in amarok go to settings, configure amarok03:07
bubu1ukdave: if u type /usr in address bar in konqueror, will it get u there?03:08
davefound it andreas, cheers03:08
TurnTheOtherWaybubu1uk menu.lst is empty what now lol?03:08
balintbubu1uk ok, im on it :) but got a weard problem :D a hda5 folder appeaerd on my desktop :) and cant delete it, and in konqueror the folder is not shown :)03:08
andreaswdave: In the future release of kubuntu the system directories will no longer be hidden by default03:08
andreaswdave: I don't know who had the ideo with the .hidden file03:08
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nesttlebuenas03:09
nesttlehi all03:09
davewell it's probably okay for some less well used folders03:09
hak5fannesttle: hi03:09
nesttleanyone can help me?03:09
nesttlei'm spanish03:09
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TurnTheOtherWayanyone know the ubot link?03:09
nesttleand I installed kubuntu 6.10 edgy03:09
revolution27Anyone? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=33797503:09
andreaswdave: It is just cunfusing people who had worked with other Linux distrubitions before and are looking for the system folders in konqueror03:09
hak5fannesttle: I speak some spanish but I'm not very good at it03:10
nesttleno problem :P03:10
nesttlei have a problem with Beryl (and emerald)03:10
TurnTheOtherWaynesttle: #kubuntu-es03:10
hak5fannesttle: and I don't know much about Linux03:10
Ash-FoxArgh, this is annoying. I make a preinst script for my .deb package, a template file.. and for some reason, the template isn't imported into debconf for unknown reasons so I get lovely stupid errors03:10
nesttleand I think that my XGL don't run properly03:10
bubu1ukTurnTheOtherWay: u might need to reinstall grub or manually edit that menu.lst03:10
sinbad33how does  one defrag in Kubuntu  ??03:10
nesttlethanks for the channel :P03:11
bubu1ukTurnTheOtherWay: what can be pain in *** if u dont know much bout it.03:11
TurnTheOtherWaynesttle: np03:11
Ash-Foxsinbad33, reiserfs defrags it self, you don't need to defrag it.03:11
daveandreas: I tried opening konqueror in su mode, but I still dont seem to have permission to delet the file, do I need to do it from terminal03:11
andreaswdave: I did it from the terminal. Never tried to delete it with Konqueror03:12
bubu1ukbalint: in console check in /home/user/Desktop if u got that link there. then just remove it.03:12
Ash-Foxdave, close all konqueror windows, alt + f2 'kdesu konqueror'03:12
sinbad33Ash, oh wow ... s w e e t03:12
TurnTheOtherWaybubu1uk: ill reinstall kubuntu and try to use SGD but ty for help03:12
balintok03:12
bubu1ukTurnTheOtherWay: np03:12
hak5fan@anyone if anyone could come up with a solution to this problem I would be very greatful: why does my machine sometimes restart when trying to boot kubuntu03:13
hak5fan?03:13
sinbad33Ash, why doesnt MS use the same defrag technique as reiserfs ? any idea ?03:13
bubu1ukbalint: did u manage to setup those folders for collection in amarok?03:13
TurnTheOtherWayhuzzah now im using all my usb ports!03:13
bubu1uksinbad33: cuz it's MS?03:13
balint? what? :)03:13
bubu1uksinbad33: lol03:13
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Ash-Foxsinbad33, because Microsoft uses diskkeeper internally.03:14
bubu1ukbalint: u wanted to create playlist in amarok.03:14
balintbubu1uk yes im browsing amarok settings right now03:14
joshy_XEN_??03:14
bubu1ukbalint: go to collection03:14
davehmm, I opened terrminal  changed to su, and still do not have permission to delete the .hidden file (all konqueror windows are closed03:15
bubu1ukbalint: option on left with 3 cd icon03:15
balintgoti t:)03:15
Ash-Foxdave, well, that wasn't my instructions.03:15
Ash-Foxdave, so good luck with that.03:15
sinbad33is there some kind of advantage to using internal diskkeeper i wonder ?03:15
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balintand just select th folders i want to scan right?03:16
bubu1ukbalint: amarok will rescan ur collection of files, then u can create playlist easily of random 50 or just choose artist u want to play03:16
andreaswdave: sudo rm /.hidden03:16
bubu1ukbalint: right03:16
balintjust like good ol' winamp mlibrary :)03:16
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andreaswdave: that has to work even if you have open konqueror windows03:16
bubu1ukbalint: kinda. ;)03:16
sinbad33i cant believe how much im learning now that im using kubuntu03:16
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Ash-Foxsinbad33, linux filesystems tend to be faster under benchmarks than NTFS.. Diskkeeper operates as a service application while poking at native apis under windows... Under Linux, any defragmentation is usually implemented in the driver itself...03:16
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milaksCan someone please tell me honestly :) Which one do you think is faster: Gnome or KDE?03:17
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Ash-FoxI think KDE is faster.03:17
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davethanks andreas that worked, what's the difference between changing to su and entering the command, ansd doing sudo?03:17
bubu1ukmilaks: xfce4 :p03:17
TurnTheOtherWaygnomes sposed tbe faster isnt it?03:17
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TurnTheOtherWaylol yep xfce!03:17
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andreaswdave: su won't work under (k)ubuntu03:17
bubu1ukAsh-Fox: i thought gnome03:17
Ash-FoxEver tried running things konqueror under xfce? blah..03:18
andreaswdave: because the root user has no usefull password under ubuntu03:18
balintbubu1uk i like that random 50, sounds fine :)03:18
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Ash-Fox*things like03:18
daveokay andreas, why is that?03:18
bubu1ukAsh-Fox: u tryin to run kde app under diff desktop, of course then.03:18
davecheers andreas03:18
Ash-FoxTurnTheOtherWay, pentium 4, 1.8ghz, 1gb ram, it's about six or five years old now03:18
andreaswdave: just use sudo instead of su and if you need a root console than use sudo -s03:18
Ash-Foxbubu1uk, firefox is also slower for me under xfce4 :P03:18
balintbubu1uk and when its going to start the scan?03:19
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sinbad33Ash, older versions of firefox are WAY faster then newer versions, would u happen to know the oldest firefox version one can use with kubuntu or linux ?03:19
andreaswI don't know any program for ext3 which shows me the exact framgantation level03:19
bubu1ukbalint: menu tools>>rescan collection03:19
TurnTheOtherWayahha03:19
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Ash-Foxsinbad33, you could pretty much run any of the binary packages off mozilla.org.. so all of them?03:19
TurnTheOtherWayis the ubuntu install the same as the kubuntu?03:19
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balintbubu1uk and whats that context?03:19
Xera|TurnTheOtherWay: pretty much yes03:19
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daveThanks andreas, I tend to use sudo anyway, but this one time I didn't ;-)03:20
TurnTheOtherWaydamn. i was thinking converting to gnome might help me, but i guess not.03:20
Ash-Foxsinbad33, although to be honest, I find 2.0 faster than 1.503:20
sinbad33Ash, oh really! does mozilla.org bother to mention that fact on their site?03:20
andreaswso how do all know that it doesn't framents03:20
bubu1ukbalint: what context?03:20
balintbubu1uk in amarok03:20
sinbad33Ash, well im talking about version 0.91 etc03:20
Ash-Foxsinbad33. you can find the binary packages on ftp.mozilla.org03:20
balintleft panel, above collection03:20
hak5fanHi again everybody... I've tested my memory using memtest86+ and no errors were found, I still get these strange reboots when trying to start kubuntu... I also get an error message saying something about can't read CTR while initializing i840 .... It must be someone who can answer this question...03:21
sinbad33Ash, sweeet  thx03:21
Ash-FoxYou will need to extract them somewhere, and run it from there. Since you aren't going to get .deb packages from there.03:21
bubu1ukbalint: ah right. it just tells u info bout music. how many times it played, popularity etc. u can also find lyrics there.03:21
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bubu1ukbalint: play some music and u'll see03:21
balintbubu1uk i like amarok :D03:21
balintbubu1uk for how long are u using linux?03:21
bubu1ukbout year, or 203:22
bubu1ukbut not allways.03:22
balintand before on win u used winamp?03:22
Xera|they should make linamp03:22
Xera|>:03:22
balint:D03:22
TurnTheOtherWaylol03:22
Ash-FoxXera, install xmms03:22
bubu1ukwinapm, wmp, anything. i like to try new things.03:22
Ash-FoxXera, xmms is a winamp clone03:22
Xera|Ash-Fox: i know, but it sucks ass03:23
balinti think amarok is good enough, amarok is liamp03:23
sinbad33Ash, have u ever used Epiphany browser with kubuntu ?03:23
Ash-FoxXera, if you want something like iTunes, but more features and better, try amarok03:23
Xera|i mean, the people who made winamp should make linamp03:23
bubu1ukbtw, i like to use audacious as well.03:23
balintXera! youre right!! xmms is a big sh*t03:23
Xera|Ash-Fox: i use amarok XD03:23
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Xera|amaroK pwns03:23
Ash-Foxsinbad33, nope03:23
TurnTheOtherWayso many ks....03:23
makuseruwhat is one smaller resolution than 1024x76803:23
balintbubu1uk and why dont u alwys use linux?03:24
Ash-FoxAmarok annoys me with the lack of mod file support.03:24
balintusually 800*600 , but there are stupid reoslutions03:24
makuserui mean bigger then03:24
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makuseruya im not lookin for them odd weird resolutions03:24
makuserujust standard one03:24
makuserus03:24
bubu1ukbalint: well. had problems with flash before. bout year ago03:24
sinbad33Ash, what drive image software do u recommend with kubuntu ?03:24
balintmakuseru: usually 1280*960 on CRT and 1280*1024 on LCD (there are mid resolutions between this, but those are not very useful)03:25
bubu1ukand needed better browser support for school03:25
TurnTheOtherWaywtf?03:25
bubu1ukcuz everything was online03:25
Ash-Foxsinbad33, what?03:25
balintbubu1uk i mean u use windows too every day?03:25
TurnTheOtherWayin win here i just randomly had "run a dll as an app has had to close"03:25
bubu1ukbalint: not really now.03:25
Ash-Foxsinbad33, what do you mean by 'drive image software'?03:25
bubu1ukhave linux on all machines now.03:25
bubu1ukeither, laptop is dual in case i need it.03:25
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TurnTheOtherWayinstalling kubuntu :)03:26
sinbad33i want to make my own custom kubuntu OS image so i can do OS reinstalls fast03:26
balintbubu1uk: i like linux but lots of programs are not ported to linux (i understand the companies)03:26
balintbubu1uk for ex. dreamweaver03:26
TurnTheOtherWayhardly any games for lin03:26
TurnTheOtherWaycept trem :)03:26
bubu1ukbalint: well, u have good apps in linux for web dev too. but not dreamweaver03:26
sinbad33Ash, i just want to clone my OS partition03:26
TurnTheOtherWayargh my iso wont burn03:27
balintbubu1uk are there as good ase dw?03:27
bubu1ukTurnTheOtherWay: good support for games is with cedega or wine now.03:27
blekoswhich prog is best for cd ripping 2 mp3?03:27
Ash-Foxsinbad33, if you have norton ghost.. You can use that. I use my own homemade scripts and a program called 'dd'. But I don't think that would be a easy solution for you.03:27
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balintbubu1uk i just need one wich has got split view and has that pop-up code library03:27
bubu1ukbalint: dependes. not that good gui maybe. if u prefer to code, better linux then.03:27
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TurnTheOtherWaywhatre cedega n wine bubu1uk?03:28
Ash-Foxblekos, something called k3b if you want something graphical03:28
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bubu1uk!wine03:28
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.03:28
balintTurn: theyre are win emulators03:28
bubu1uk!cedega03:28
MementoMorihi all03:28
ubotucedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega03:28
sinbad33homemade scripts? would there be any way i could get a copy of some of those scripts, if u think it will make it easier ?03:28
TurnTheOtherWayhurrah! ty03:28
Ash-Foxbubu1uk, uh, I'm sorry. Windows has the better IDEs and and debugging tools currently...03:28
balintCedega is for games, i will install it today :D ! wine is fro apps03:28
sinbad33oops03:28
sinbad33Ash, homemade scripts? would there be any way i could get a copy of some of those scripts, if u think it will make it easier ?03:28
TurnTheOtherWayi have hl2 :)03:28
TurnTheOtherWaybut you have to buy cedega :(03:29
Ash-Foxbubu1uk, on kdevelop, monodevelop and so on, you aren't capable of modifying a program's code in real time while it's running. You can in visual studio on windows.03:29
sinbad33Ash, i understand that dd is a bit difficult for beginners, yes03:29
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blekosi have k3b, i dint know it can convert audio cds 2 mp3 though03:29
sinbad33Ash, but i got the dd manual now am reading it thru03:29
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Ash-Foxsinbad33, my scripts work on the concept of network booting via dhcp rather than CD images...03:29
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balintthe best convert tool for linux i think is switch03:30
sinbad33Ash, oh u mean remote booting03:30
Ash-Foxsinbad33, you'd need to setup sftp and xinetd with my system.. It's just complex :P03:30
sinbad33wow03:30
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TurnTheOtherWay!switch03:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about switch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:30
sinbad33Ash, yes i think i agree w u :)03:30
Ash-Fox(Network booting on my network -- you load a small linux kernel and it presents you with a list of OS images to load on your system -- not easy todo the initial setup :P)03:31
balintOMG amarok has got wikipedia info about th artists :D03:31
sinbad33gosh i think im getting cerebral 'whiplash' from all the new stuff im learning since using kubuntu03:31
TurnTheOtherWaybubu1uk, if i cant boot linux once reinstalled, what should i do?03:31
Ash-Fox!whiptail03:32
ubotuwhiptail: Displays user-friendly dialog boxes from shell scripts. In component main, is important. Version 0.52.2-5.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 33 kB, installed size 92 kB03:32
bubu1ukTurnTheOtherWay: dependes why it doesnt want to boot03:32
TurnTheOtherWayinstall complete... just gotta wait for load03:32
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cschoenhallo03:33
Ash-Fox!de03:33
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de03:33
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balintI have a stupid question: can i run MSN messenger on linux? with wine?03:35
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balintor can i run winamp?03:35
balintjust want to know03:35
bubu1ukbalint: use amsn for msn messenger03:36
TurnTheOtherWayclonified :)03:36
balintbubu1uk: yes yes, but i just want to know if its possible to run it03:36
TurnTheOtherWayI HATE GRUB.03:36
bubu1ukdunno, never tried it.03:36
TurnTheOtherWayi got error 2 again03:36
bubu1ukTurnTheOtherWay: u have something in menu.lst now?03:37
TurnTheOtherWayi dont think it can see the drive...03:37
TurnTheOtherWayno03:37
TurnTheOtherWaybut how do i get anything in?03:37
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weedarWhy is it impossible to turn off tap-to-click on ALPS touchpad?03:38
TurnTheOtherWay!menu.lst03:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about menu.lst - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:38
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revolution27http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=33797503:38
bubu1uk!grub03:39
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:39
bubu1ukTurnTheOtherWay: try those03:39
TurnTheOtherWaybubu1uk ive seen those it doesnt help03:39
TurnTheOtherWaybubu1uk: do you know what to type in menu.lst?03:40
TurnTheOtherWayin nano03:40
bubu1ukTurnTheOtherWay: kinda know. didn't play with it much tho.03:40
bubu1ukTurnTheOtherWay: wait03:40
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TurnTheOtherWaycan i ask someone to paste me the contents of their /boot/grub/menu.lst?03:42
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bubu1ukTurnTheOtherWay: just doin it03:43
TurnTheOtherWaybubu1uk: thx03:43
bubu1uk!paste03:43
ubotupaste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)03:43
bubu1ukhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/155503:44
TurnTheOtherWaytitleUbuntu, memtest86+03:46
TurnTheOtherWayroot(hd0,1)03:46
TurnTheOtherWaykernel/boot/memtest86+.bin03:46
TurnTheOtherWayquiet03:46
TurnTheOtherWayboot03:46
TurnTheOtherWaycan i just replace ubuntu with kubuntu there?03:46
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balintwell amarok is good, but it's media library is not as good as the ml of mi little winamp :)03:46
bubu1ukbalint: u just might need to get used to it. it's different but good. i like it.03:47
TurnTheOtherWayoh hell i might have to type thqt up aswell03:47
bubu1ukTurnTheOtherWay: yes, u can. it doesnt really matter what title is. it will show that title in menu when u boot03:47
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bubu1ukTurnTheOtherWay: also u have linux on primary hdd?03:48
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TurnTheOtherWayi cant do that id have to type it all up... damnit. hdd?03:48
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bubu1ukTurnTheOtherWay: harddisk.03:48
bubu1ukTurnTheOtherWay: what u mean u cant do that?03:49
TurnTheOtherWaylol i cant copy the menu.lst in im on a laptop kubuntus on the desktop id have to type up the file :/03:49
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TurnTheOtherWayalso, i only have one hdd and both lin and win are on it03:49
TurnTheOtherWayi assume its primary03:50
bubu1ukTurnTheOtherWay: then that config should be quiet allright for u.03:50
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bubu1ukTurnTheOtherWay: also u dont have to retype all. nothing with #, that's only comment03:50
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bubu1ukproper menu.lst has only few lines.03:50
TurnTheOtherWayisee03:51
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bubu1uki'll give u grub from my fedora, it has less lines. although u'll have to change some things there then.03:52
TurnTheOtherWaywhat about with multiple #s?03:52
bubu1ukTurnTheOtherWay: same03:52
bubu1ukTurnTheOtherWay: it's just comment03:52
TurnTheOtherWayk thx ill get typing lol03:52
Jucatousually, menu.lst's that have very very few lines use something like gfxmenu (notably MEPIS or SUSE.. not sure about Fedora Core)03:52
makuserudoes anyone know how to get bigger resolution with an ATI Radeon 7000?03:53
bubu1ukTurnTheOtherWay: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1558/03:53
TurnTheOtherWaybubu1uk: it says menu.lst is a new file: should it already be there? and if i type it up and save it should it install with kubuntu?03:54
bubu1ukTurnTheOtherWay: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst03:55
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TurnTheOtherWayim in that it says its a new file03:55
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bubu1ukok, then. might be. did u have one before?03:56
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Davidoffhow can i add soemthing to my startup configuration ?03:57
TurnTheOtherWayno04:00
TurnTheOtherWaynever had one04:00
TurnTheOtherWaywill it install with kubuntu?04:00
bubu1ukTurnTheOtherWay: then it has to create one. and yes, it should be there when u install it. dunno what happened04:01
bubu1ukTurnTheOtherWay: btw, if u can't boot, how do u get to system?04:01
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TurnTheOtherWayget to system?04:02
bubu1ukwell. u'r using liveCD or what?04:02
TurnTheOtherWayyeah live04:02
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slow-motionhallo04:02
bubu1ukehm. u'll hav eto go to hdd not do it on live cd.04:03
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bubu1ukgot to go now. Jucato should be able to help u.04:03
bubu1ukwill be back later. probalby in 3 hours.04:03
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TurnTheOtherWayahhell04:04
TurnTheOtherWaygbye then04:04
TurnTheOtherWayone thing!!!04:04
TurnTheOtherWay???04:04
bubu1ukTurnTheOtherWay: come back later, i'll be here.04:04
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bubu1ukTurnTheOtherWay:what?04:04
TurnTheOtherWayhow to get to hdd?04:04
TurnTheOtherWayif it wont boot?04:04
balintwith krdc can i connect to win desktops?04:04
balintor only to other kubuntus?04:04
bubu1ukTurnTheOtherWay:u might need to mount  it.04:05
Davidoffwhere is the file that i can add things to my startup configuration ?04:05
bubu1ukTurnTheOtherWay: not sure04:05
TurnTheOtherWayhow????04:05
makuserudoes anyone know how to get bigger resolution with an ATI Radeon 7000?04:05
TurnTheOtherWay!mount04:05
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter04:05
balintDavidoff: good question i want to know that too04:05
bubu1ukTurnTheOtherWay: check in /mnt and /media if u have something that could be hdd04:05
balintDavidoff you mean like msconfig right?04:06
TurnTheOtherWayk04:06
TurnTheOtherWayill try04:06
bubu1ukbye now.04:06
TurnTheOtherWaymight end up trying to reinstall win :/04:06
Davidoffi need to have this line (an export PATH...) run everytime i login04:06
TurnTheOtherWaygbye04:06
TurnTheOtherWayand thankyou04:06
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jigoroubuntu  bello!04:09
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TurnTheOtherWaywhat country?04:09
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Davidoffi wish i could remember what the file is called balint !04:09
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andreaswTurnTheOtherWay: what went wrong?04:12
TurnTheOtherWaytried to install kubuntu but im a noob and grub didnt work04:12
TurnTheOtherWayso no boot04:12
makuseru!sound04:13
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin04:13
andreaswTurnTheOtherWay: hmm do you have two hds?04:13
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TurnTheOtherWaynope just 1 and its raid aswell04:13
TurnTheOtherWaystripe04:13
andreaswok with raids I am out, never had one so no experience at all04:13
TurnTheOtherWaylol04:13
swamisomeone tell me why i have to press a key for a second before it cames out?04:14
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andreaswTurnTheOtherWay: did you already try to boot from a live cd and than reinstall grub?04:14
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andreaswswami: every key or only some?04:14
andreasw^^04:14
swami every04:14
andreaswI had to type it 4 times04:14
andreaswah k04:14
andreaswhmm strange04:15
andreaswdo you have heavy load at the moment?04:15
swaminop04:15
TurnTheOtherWayi can boot from live but not from hdd and its just grub that wont work everything else is fine... but i have no way to get SGD to the comp04:15
andreaswTurnTheOtherWay: Like I said but with a liveCD than chroot to your ubuntu system and run grup-install again04:16
andreaswTurnTheOtherWay: or maybe check the config file beforce whether everything is fine in there04:16
TurnTheOtherWayhow do i chroot?04:17
TurnTheOtherWaywhat do i change to?04:17
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Davidoffcan anyone tell me how to run a command automatically when i login ???04:18
andreaswTurnTheOtherWay: Mount your root filesystem to any mount point04:18
andreaswTurnTheOtherWay: than mount the proc filesystem04:19
andreaswmount -t proc proc /mnt/gentoo/proc04:19
makuserucan someone help me get sound in edgy?04:19
andreaswI took it from the gentoo manual ^^04:19
andreaswreplace gentoo with your mountpoint than04:19
dannyhello can anyone help me how to transfer my home directory from an old hard drive to a new kubuntu installation in a new hard drive?04:19
andreaswchroot /yourmntpnt /bin/bash04:19
andreaswthan you are in the installed ubuntu system04:20
andreaswand can run grub-install for example04:20
TurnTheOtherWaysry im too much of a noob to take any of this in anymore.... im trying to work windows04:20
makuserucan someone help me get sound in edgy?04:20
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dannyAMAROK ROCKS!04:21
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andreaswTurnTheOtherWay: well thats the problem with linux some things don't work very well ^^04:21
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dannyhello andreasw can you help me?04:22
TurnTheOtherWaylol yes04:22
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TurnTheOtherWayformatting my drive now04:23
larson9999where is the 'add-user' gui in edgy?04:23
andreaswandreasw: well the best thing is to copy stuff with tar04:23
andreaswarg04:23
TurnTheOtherWaylol04:23
makuserusystem settings user administration04:23
andreasw@dave ^^04:23
zchydemDavidoff: add the command that you want to run to your ~/.bashrc file04:23
andreaswdanny: sorry I mean you hehe04:23
TurnTheOtherWayi think ill wait a while before trying linux again04:24
dannyehehe04:24
TurnTheOtherWay:/04:24
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dannyandreasw: hello can anyone help me how to transfer my home directory from an old hard drive to a new kubuntu installation in a new hard drive?04:24
andreaswdanny: login as root than rename your home to home.old or something04:24
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andreaswdanny: than create a new home directiory and go in there04:24
dannyok just a sec04:24
TurnTheOtherWayi hope formatting the drive will remove grub cos if not im doomed04:25
andreaswdanny: well you can't do that while you are logged in here04:25
dannyoh04:25
TurnTheOtherWayis there an option not to use grub?04:25
danny:)04:25
andreaswdanny: you have to do it in console with noone else logged in04:25
larson9999makuseru, yeah, that's not there.  seems i remember there being a problem with that but forgot what it was04:25
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dannyandreasw: ok fire away04:25
zchydemdoes anyone know how much ipv6 slows down internet connection?04:25
Davidoffthanks zchydem04:26
Davidoffwill test :D04:26
makuserucan someone help me get sound in edgy?04:26
fdoving!sound | makuseru04:27
ubotumakuseru: If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin04:27
andreaswdanny: Well i have here a nice tutorial but it's in german ^^04:27
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andreaswdanny: tar -cSp --numeric-owner --atime-preserve -f - . | ( cd /home && tar -xSpv --atime-preserve -f - )04:27
andreaswchange to the old home (your saved one)04:27
dannyok04:27
andreaswand than that command should copy everything to the home directory04:27
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dannyok is there anything else that i need to do after that?04:28
andreaswno after that everything should be fine than04:29
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andreaswbut it would be easier to move your home04:29
andreaswis the old one on the same hd?04:29
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dannynope04:30
andreaswbut it's from a ubuntu linux?04:30
andreaswor from some other linux distribution04:30
andreasw?04:30
dannymy old home is on an old hdd with kubuntu 6.0604:30
andreaswah k04:30
earl_hey guys. i have a 60GB hard drive, and i just noticed that I placed the swap partition at the very end of this hard drive. how bad did i fail?04:30
dannyi just installed a new hdd with kubuntu 6.0604:31
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andreaswah k04:31
dannyandreasw: but then when i tried to copy the home directory all sorts of errors appeared when trying to run some programs04:31
andreaswdanny: ok than the command is the right thing04:31
dannyok i will try now04:31
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mineurI'm not sure, but I think the location of your swap partition doesn't matter.... maybe you'll have less performance.... but I don't think that your performance is determined by your swap nowadays... I don't even have a swap partition04:32
dannythanks andreasw04:32
dannybrb04:32
earl_well i only have 768 mb of ram04:32
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earl_and i have lots of jittery performance04:32
mineurI have 512 ram :)04:32
makuserucan someone please help me get sound in edgy?04:33
earl_like the type of thing i used to get in WoW a lot when i ran 256mb >,<04:33
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earl_well, mineur, im also running Beryl and Amarok, not sure if you are too =)04:33
mineuryep I am :)04:33
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earl_bah04:33
mineuramarok and beryl.... the reasons why I use linux lol04:33
earl_ditto ^_^04:33
j0bhello04:33
earl_but im pretty convinced my mistake has caused adverse performance04:34
j0bi have a question for everydody04:34
earl_things freeze up for a split second when i open up a menu, or scroll up/down a webpage04:34
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mineurwell qtparted might be a solution? not sure if it'll manage to move the whole wwap tho04:34
j0bdo you know how to launch beryl-manager at the start04:34
j0b??04:34
earl_i mean i also am only running a 1.6ghz processor, but i didnt think that would be a problem04:34
mineurnah I'm on a laptop 1,5 GHz, intel graphical card... crappy, but it runs smoothly04:35
Zamberhttp://stuff.zamber.net/beryl.html - mine beryl screenshots ;)04:35
mineurj0b: just start beryl-manager04:35
earl_yeah i didnt think the cpu was a problem04:35
earl_when i run beryl-benchmark it gives me great framerates04:36
makuserucan someone please help me get sound in edgy?04:36
earl_even through the choppy things i'm reporting04:36
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earl_qtparted doesn't seem to be a program on my computer, should i apt-get install it?04:36
makuseruearl_: what graphics card do you have04:36
earl_radeon 960004:36
earl_pro04:36
makuseruhow many fps04:36
mineurearl_: yep.. install it :)04:37
earl_let me fire up the benchmark04:37
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earl_okay as i sit here talking to you guys it reports 140 fps04:37
Zamberearl_ I have 9200 and it works smooth too ;)04:37
makuserudanm04:37
j0bmineur > i know that but i want to launch this automatically04:37
makuserumineur: how about you? how many fps04:38
earl_i drag the window around in wobbliness and it goes down to about 60, but still very good04:38
Zamberabout 60-8004:38
makuserui have a 7000 and it works really well04:38
earl_cube mode gets me about 80fps04:38
Zamber40 in critical moments04:38
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mineurdamn I want this schoolyear to be over soon....I have a radeon 9600 in my dekstop, but I'm stuck to windows for my master thesis04:38
Zamberwhen using heavyweight stuff04:38
makuserumineur: how about you? how many fps04:38
earl_actually i have a weird problem with beryl where it starts up on booting into kde,04:38
mineuras I sit here and type ..... 40 fps, intel graphical crap :d04:38
earl_but i dont get window decorations04:39
earl_until i type beryl-manager04:39
mineurj0b: you use aiglx?04:39
Zamberearl_ its normal04:39
makuserumineur: what intel?04:39
j0bmineur > yep04:39
makuseru945?04:39
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earl_bah04:39
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earl_no way to fix that then? aside from waiting for an update04:39
j0bmakeseru > i use beryl with the same graphic card04:39
makuserua 7000?04:40
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ohyesyoucan11The other day I was in here someone helped me a lot by telling me how to type passwords on my machine (in Kate)... obviously I want to turn auto back up off and my internet off... but he told me one last thing I could do.  I forget :(04:40
j0b> an intel 94504:40
mineurof course earl_ just let it fire up beryl-manager automatically.. it's on the wiki from beryl how to do that04:40
makuserui don t use one04:40
makuserui was asking minerur what intel he used04:40
earl_i see04:40
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makuseruuses*04:40
earl_i'll take a look at that later then04:40
mineurhang on.. I'm doubting myself now lol04:40
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Zamberre04:41
earl_now mineur - this qtparted, will i be able to move partitions around without damaging data? i also have a 40gb FAT32 partition, which i'd like to keep untouched...04:41
earl_or at the very least, intact04:41
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Zamberearl_ did you added the sh script to the kde autostart?04:41
earl_nope, i didn't do that04:41
Zamberit rund beryl-manager on boot if you're using xgl04:41
mineurwell that's the idea of qtparted................ but then again... I'm not giving garantees :)04:41
Zambergoogle for it04:41
earl_im using aiglx04:41
mineurintel 855GME04:42
root_hello..can any one please tell me how to install anjuta IDE on kubuntu04:42
makuseruha, i just got off of an 845g04:42
Dr_willis!find anjuta04:42
makuseruwhats your ram/processor04:42
ubotuFound: anjuta, anjuta-common, anjuta-dev04:42
mineur512 MB04:42
Dr_willis!info anjuta04:42
ubotuanjuta: A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.2-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1494 kB, installed size 3760 kB04:42
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mineur1.5 GHz04:42
makuseruha04:42
Dr_willisroot_,  enable the universe repository  and sudo apt-get install anjuta04:42
root_k04:43
Dr_willisuniverse is enabled by default or not? i forget.04:43
makuserui had 2.2ghz, 768mb, 845G and i could only get 2504:43
root_but i got a problem04:43
root_i'll just show u that in a minute04:43
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makuserucan someone please help me get sound in edgy?04:44
Dr_willisYou got lots of problems :) ircing as root is not a good thing to do either. Heh04:44
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mineurmakuseru: might also be a combination of effects... some combinations are really slow on some graphical cards.. a matter of trying out04:44
mineurwhat sound card do you have?04:44
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makuseruummm, lemme check04:45
root_ya.. i guess so..but i installed it for first time yesterday04:45
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root_i get the following error          : "No package 'glib-2.0' found ...04:45
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root_error: Package requirements (glib-2.0 >= 2.8.0) were not me04:46
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Dr_willishave you updated the system yet? with 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade'04:46
makuserumineur: intel ich504:46
earl_hey so when i ran qtparted i got this message04:46
earl_Error: File system was not cleanly unmounted!  You should run e2fsck.  Modifying an unclean file system could cause severe corruption.04:47
Zamberearl_ look on the bottom of this one http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/AiGLX04:47
root_k..04:47
root_i'll do that04:47
Dr_willisearl_,  you dont want to run parted on mounted filesystems.  id advise using a live cd. checking the filesystems, then doing your parted work.04:47
KennethPI'll try this once more: When installing the webdeveloper 1.0.2 extention on Firefox 2.0.0.1 via Adept on Kubuntu 6.10 I see this 'Not compatible with Firefox 2.0.0.1' message' - the developer claims that it should be... any ideas?04:48
earl_that's probably a good idea, i didn't intend to do anything right now, i was mostly just checking out the program04:48
mineurearl_: better use a live cd for messing with partitions... and I'd strongly suggest a backup before messing with partitions04:48
Zamberearl_ I can't find a autorun script for aiglx, I have xgl only ;P04:48
earl_but, how do i run this e2fsck and what kind of thing does it do04:48
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makuserumineur: intel ich504:49
mineurmakuseru: hang on :)04:49
makuseruk04:49
Dr_willisearl_,  its a disk-checker program. :) normally ran from a shell.04:49
mineurif you want beryl to run automatically, check: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_AIGLX#Configuring_Beryl04:50
earl_well i mean, what is the usage of04:50
earl_it04:50
earl_like e2fsck /dev/hdc3 or whatever?04:50
root_hello.. i executed d 1st command.. i.e the update one04:50
Dr_willisman e2fsck04:50
mineur!e2fsck04:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about e2fsck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:50
Dr_willisearl_,  basicially04:50
mineurstupid bot :p04:50
root_but the upgrade 1 tells me download 140 mb..04:50
Dr_willisroot_,  so...04:50
root_i cant do that much..04:50
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root_now..i mean04:51
root_i want to do essential files only04:51
mineurmakuseru: is alsa installed or something like that, actually someone tell me what's the default sound server in ubuntu? it just worked out of the box here... :)04:51
root_could you guide04:51
Dr_willislet it download what it can i guess... what sort of answer are ya expecting.. it sees all the updates to the stuff and wants to install them..04:51
root_no..pls04:51
earl_i see, thanks04:51
makuseruits set to automatic04:51
Dr_willisother stuff you want to install may need those updates as well04:52
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sinbad33why wont Konq let me delete some old files on one of my drives ??04:52
root_i mean.no open office n firefox stuf.. just system resources.. i no it sounds a bit wierd04:52
root_k..04:52
MetProphetHi there...04:52
mineurmakuseru: check if alsa is installed04:52
Dr_willisyou could just 'update' then try installing whateger it is you want.. but it still may try to upgrade some things.04:52
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makuseruhow do i do that04:53
sinbad33how do i enable 'delete' permissions on Konq ??04:53
mineurmakuseru: sudo apt-get install alsa-base04:53
root_k..04:53
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makuserualsa-base is already the newest version.04:53
Dr_willissinbad33,  perhaps check the permissions/ownership of those files.04:53
mineurso it is installed :)04:54
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makuseruyup04:54
root_ne wayz thnx a lot 4 yer help.. hope to see you soon..04:54
sinbad33Dr, i tried to do that but they were all greyed out :(04:55
root_bye04:55
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Dr_willissinbad33,  time to use the shell.. and go look at the files I guess. :)04:55
makuserumineur: what now?04:55
sinbad33shell? u mean kconsole ?04:55
mineuryou use kde right?04:55
Dr_willissinbad33,  ls -al /whatever/files and see whos owning them and what perms.. are they on a windows drive? or what sort of drive04:56
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Dr_willis!shell04:56
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands04:56
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mineurmakuseru: the sound system is enabled in system settings?04:56
sinbad33Dr, well they are on an old slave ntfs drive i used to use on windows xp04:56
makuseruyes04:56
Dr_willissinbad33,  you realize that 'writing' to ntfs drives is sort of unsupported. :)04:57
mineurmakuseru: and does it give an error?04:57
makuseruno04:57
Dr_willissinbad33,  reading the files is good.. writing/deleteing - can trash the drive.. (but i hear its doable, but risky)04:57
earl_one more thing guys, i'm considering just reinstalling kubuntu, any suggestions on how big i should make my swap partition?04:57
mineurare your speakers turned on? :d04:57
makuseruyes04:57
Dr_willisearl_,  i always make at least a 512mb swap. reguardless of ram.. how mych ram ya got?04:58
mineurearl_: some people used to say twice your ram... but I'd say same amount as your ram04:58
sinbad33Dr, oh really?! didnt know that04:58
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Dr_willissinbad33,  Now ya do. :)04:59
sinbad33Dr, thanx for telling me , guess i need to be 'careful'04:59
sinbad33i thought by now kubuntu was fully ntfs compat04:59
Dr_willissinbad33,  theres an addon for windows that lets XP read/write to your Linux Ext2/3 drives - so i rarely have to write to ntfs drives (or use them at all ) these days05:00
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mineurmakuseru: I'm not sure then, I always had my sound working out of the box...05:00
Dr_willissinbad33,  i doubt if linux will every be FULLY ntfs compat.. since MS wont release all the specs.05:00
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mineurI never had problems writing to ntfs... but indeed they say to do it at your own risk....05:00
Dr_willissinbad33,  i hear its very useable... but do you really want to risk the data...05:00
mineurI do lol05:00
mineurlike to live on the edge hehe05:00
Dr_willisLosing your mp3 files is one thing.... losing your Boss's data files is another...05:00
Dr_willisand Losing your PORN is unacceptable!05:01
Dr_willis:)05:01
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mineurI wouldn't store my boss's data on a ntfs drive hehe05:01
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mineurand definatly not my pron roflol05:01
sinbad33Dr, no i dont want to risk my data on that drive, but i have alot of large >4Gb files on it, can i do a conversion or should i just not use the ntfs drive as an aux kubuntu drive at all ?05:02
earl_i have 768mb of ram05:02
earl_and i have 1gb of swap05:02
earl_not enough? too much?05:02
sinbad33HAHA05:02
sinbad33right!05:02
mineurearl_: is your HD big enough?05:02
earl_define big enough05:02
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mineurlol that depends on what you use it for!05:03
earl_giggidy05:03
sinbad33i just hope i will be able to use that drive with xp again05:03
Lynoureearl_: Laptop or desktop?05:03
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sinbad33giggidy?05:03
earl_i have a 7g NTFs partition, a 7g ext3 partition, 1gb swap, 40something fat3205:03
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earl_it's a desktop05:03
mineurfat32..... eeeeeeeeeeeeeew05:03
earl_welllllllllll05:03
earl_it has all my music and stuff05:03
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Alarmhello. i got a problem with the sound OR video. when i open a tv application (it happened to kdetv as also motv) , and close the application, the application closes , but the sound still continues. that has as an effect not to allow my system to shut down , and when i reset the computer and log in again the tv application starts again, like it has been crashed during the shutdown. what can i check ?05:04
mineurI'd go for ext3 then and install tools in winblows to read ext3 :)05:04
Lynoureearl_: For hibernation 2xram is good, it's also often recommended for desktops but I rarely use more than 1xram of swap05:04
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earl_i dont know how feasible that really is, mineur =P05:04
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penguinfanhello, i have some videos from my digi cam and want to convert them to a smaller format or rotate them by 90 degrees. in windows i would use windows movie maker. what do i use in kubuntu?05:04
earl_unless it will be fully integrated into windows, its not enough05:05
BluesKajhowdy05:06
earl_just a few more assorted questions05:06
earl_do any of you find klipper useful05:06
Lynoureearl_: I do.05:07
sinbad33generic mount options ?05:07
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mineurext2fsd integrates nicely... I think, not sure tho, but then again... ext2.... no thanx :)05:07
cntbearl_: sure do05:07
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waylandbillearl_: I think the ext tools for windows integrates in (like in the explorer and stuff)05:07
earl_hm05:07
earl_what is it for05:07
mineurI never use it, but I'm still wating for the day I'll find it useful :d05:08
Dr_willisthe various Tools for windows that read ext2 ALSO read ext305:08
earl_like i can't think of a single thing to use it for, but i don't wnat to close it 'cause i'm afraid it'll be useful once i do05:08
Dr_willisat least they should be able to.05:08
mineuryou can restart it then lol05:08
waylandbillyeah... ext3 as well as ext305:08
cntbearl try it has all your last pastes for re-use05:08
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mineurit's just to manage multiple copy/paste actions05:08
mineurI mostly just recopy and paste, but I guess for some people it's handy :)05:08
cntbearl_:  so leave it05:09
earl_well, if i was going to do this whole ext3 through windows thing, it would have to be readable and writable by any program05:09
earl_and, hopeflly, stable05:09
cntbbe productive leave defaults alone05:09
mineurif it integrates... it is rw-able05:09
Dr_willisearl_,  ext3/2 is read/writeable from windows.. but you want to be carefull with it. :) you know how stable windows is...05:09
mineurlol05:10
earl_hm - what about speed and stability05:10
earl_i have a 20gb music collection, losing that would be inexcusable05:10
Lynoureearl_: I use it often for pasting urls to people, or when editing text, pasting bits I removed earlier05:10
mineurspeed is ok, stability... as stable as winblows I guess :d05:10
Dr_willishttp://www.fs-driver.org/       - is what i use to access the linxu drives.05:10
matthew_!wmv05:10
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:10
earl_thanks guys, i mostly asked about klipper because i dont like having things in the system tray05:11
cntbearl_: burn that music or buy more hard disks and copy backup05:11
Lynoureearl_: Hmm, do you know you can copy-paste simply by selecting text and middle clicking? If not, I can see how klipper does not make sense for you :)05:11
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earl_yup lynoure, i do know about thh05:11
earl_that*05:11
mineurI wonder if wolfenstein would run on my intel Graphical card.... :)05:13
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makuserucan someone please help me get sound working on edgy05:15
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waylandbillmakuseru: do you get an error or something?05:16
makuseruno05:17
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makuserui just get no sound05:17
waylandbillwell, your card is detected okay?05:18
makuseruit sees it05:18
earl_hm - bottom line it fo me guys, do you really recommend i move all my fat32 stuff (movies, games, music, etc) onto an ext3 partition, or is this just experimental stuff05:18
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mineurearl_: if it works nicely with fat32.... don't change, never change a winning team :)05:18
cntbmakuseru: alt f2 kmix05:19
makuseruwhat about kmix?05:19
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earl_yeah aside from the whole eww windows thing, i never had any problems05:19
cntbearl_:  dont move copy it05:19
cntbbackups are not a waste05:19
earl_cntb: the thing i like about my current setup is taht any changes/additions i make on one os applies to the other05:20
earl_copying... kinda negates that05:20
mineurif you plan to throw windows out of the window... well go for it, but if you want to keep winblows.... it all depends what you wsant yourself05:20
cntbyour choice earl_05:20
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earl_oh of course if i was ever to get rid of windows i wouldn't have second thoughts about putting it on a linux partition05:21
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earl_oh, speaking of which05:21
earl_how come when i installed edgy, i was limited to ext305:22
earl_no more reiserfs?05:22
waylandbillthe guy who wrote reiserfs was up on charges last I knew.05:22
BluesKajno native reiser support05:22
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makuserucan someone please help me get sound working on edgy05:22
mineurreiserfs is getting sued (spelling??) for murder on his wife... he wants to sell the company that develops reiserfs...05:23
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waylandbillext3 works just fine.05:23
Dr_willisyou can set up a resiserfs partition with other tools beforhand if you really wanted to.05:23
mineurhmm not reiserfs is getting the lawsuit but the guy who made it lol05:23
waylandbillI thought it was murder, but couldn't recall.05:23
earl_i had heard about the murder thing, but i didn't know if that was the reaosn why05:23
mineuryeah waylandbill, charges are for murder on his wife05:23
mineurI guess so, it could be that reiserfs dissapears with time...05:24
Dr_willisearl_,  thats not the reason 'why' its not officially supported - i think. :)05:24
earl_well i was told it was the best partition to use05:24
mineurso, better invest in sure things05:24
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mineurreiserfs is pretty good... but ext3 works just fine too05:24
earl_so i was kinda sad to see it go05:24
Dr_willistheres so many arguments for/against reiserfs being used for different tasks.. but i think it boils down do - the drawbacks outweigh the benifits.05:24
chih05:24
waylandbillearl_: it very well could be, but if noone's going to support it, then it doesn't help much.05:25
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earl_yeah05:25
Dr_willisit may be 'best' in some very few specific cases05:25
LynoureWhy would anything the Reiser guy do make the fs go away?05:25
LynoureIt's open source, is it not?05:25
earl_in the end it really really doesn't matter to me, as long as it works well i don't care, i just thought it was strange05:25
mineuryeah it is05:25
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mineurbut he's pretty protective... not allowing many contributions05:26
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Dr_willisactually 'him' going away . may be the best thing for reiserfs.05:26
LynoureIf there is need/use for it, people will keep on supporting it or working on it.05:26
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mineurso when he goes down... he'll probably take his project with him, unless someone takes over of course05:26
makuserucan someone please help me get sound working on edgy05:26
Dr_willisbut basisially (i hear) he draggs his feet.. so thhes other FS's are catching up.05:26
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mineurbut like you say... that will only happen when there's need for it... I think ext3 does a good job05:26
waylandbillLynoure: of course, if there's someone to care enough to pick up the project and continue it.05:27
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Lynourewaylandbill: and if not, it cannot be a big loss :)05:28
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waylandbill:)05:28
earl_next question: i have set up timidity on my computer, it's pretty nifty, but now is there any way to use it to play midis... you know, without the commandline05:30
mineur!timidity05:31
ubotutimidity: Software sound renderer (MIDI sequencer, MOD player). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.13.2-7.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 534 kB, installed size 1716 kB05:31
earl_and i'm afraid i'm about to sound like a huge noob in a sec but, would it possible for it to work through like xine or something05:31
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earl_i.e. so i could play midis through amarok05:31
makuserucan someone please help me get sound working on edgy05:32
earl_or even an embedded midi on a webpage or something05:32
Dr_willismakuseru,  it can be a rather complex task.. and lots of details..  has it Ever worked?05:32
makuseruyes05:32
makuseruuntill i put this new mobo in05:33
waylandbillmakuseru: no need to repeat. you still haven't given enough info for anyone to help you or a question for someone to answer.05:33
makuseruthere isnt any info05:33
makuseruthats the whole thiing, no sound05:33
makuseruno error or anything05:33
makuserujust no sound05:33
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waylandbilldo you have the mixer volume set? muted?05:34
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makuseruno05:34
earl_makuseru... xorg.0.log doesn't give an error?05:34
earl_(that's about all the insight i can cook up for you bro)05:34
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makuserui dont think so, ill check again tho05:34
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earl_yeah look through it for all the (EE) stuff and maybe the (WW)s, you're bound to find something05:35
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makuseruno errors05:36
earl_i see05:37
earl_all out of ideas then, but i'm a noob so that shouldnt be a surprise05:37
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BluesKajthe obvious question remains, earl_ , have you set thew volume sliders on all your inputs and outputs and switches in Kmix ?05:41
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earl_uhh...05:41
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earl_(makuseru was the one with the sound problem ^_^)05:42
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makuseruand yes i have05:42
makuseruhow can i reinstall the sound drivers05:42
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PlaaColours are wrong when I watch videos, I mean yellow is yellow but its too yellow; when I use x11 output everything looks right but in fullscreen I think the resolution drops and framerate possibly is too low, what should I do? this happens also in ubuntu05:43
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cntbhowto play mid?05:46
BluesKajPlaa, perhaps your video monitor contrls will05:46
BluesKajhelp05:46
earl_?05:47
PlaaI have a laptop, and this only happens in videos05:47
BluesKaj<--- not quite awake yet ,sorry  earl_  :)05:47
BluesKajmakuseru, the obvious question remains, have you set the volume sliders on all your inputs and outputs and switches in Kmix ?05:48
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BluesKajwell sorry makuseru, I had to ask it ...sometimes even the most knowledgeable forget the obvious05:50
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makuseruhhaha05:50
makuseruhow can i reinstall the sound drivers05:50
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TheGateKeeperwhat's the command that tells you your kernel name etc?05:51
BluesKajgo to the manufacturere website ...there maybe drivers written for linux05:51
earl_thats okay =)05:51
makuserunever thought of that05:51
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mineuruname -a05:51
TheGateKeepermineur: thanx :-)05:52
mineurwelcome :)05:52
tobi__Anyone an Idea, where I can get the lame encoder for my KAudioCreator (yes, I'm using KDE)05:52
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BluesKajtobi__, is there no Lame encoder in the "encoder list" ?05:55
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cntb!mp305:58
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:58
tobi__for sure it is, but it is not fully installed, because of license things... so before can rip my CDs into mp3 format i have to install the paket05:58
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makuserucan someone please help me get sound working on edgy06:02
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tamacrackaAnyone know why a folder wont delete off of my desktop?06:08
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tamacrackait gives me an access denied.06:08
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BluesKajmaybe it's shared , tamacracka06:09
PuNToCoMhola. alguien q hable espaol'06:09
tamacrackashared?...06:09
BluesKaj!es06:09
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.06:09
tamacrackaim not on a network06:09
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tamacrackaCan someone help me? I extracted a .rar file, I deleted the RAR file, but now I cannot delete the folder. I get an error: access denied.06:12
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stdintamacracka: who owns the folder?06:13
tamacracka<,<06:13
tamacrackai do06:13
tamacrackait's a file i downloaded.06:13
tamacrackaonto my desktop06:13
tamacrackathen extracted it onto the desktop06:13
stdintamacracka: yeah, but look at the permissions tab, in the folder properties06:13
tamacrackaUser: tamacracker06:14
tamacrackagroup: tamacracker06:14
tamacracka<- tamacracker06:14
tamacracka:P06:14
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stdintamacracka: and what are the permissions ?06:15
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tamacrackaCan view06:15
tamacrackaall of them.06:15
tamacrackacan view06:15
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stdintamacracka: hmm, open konsole and try and delete it from there06:15
tamacracka>.> i dunno how to delete with console all i think i would have to type is -r "path name"06:16
hak5fanHello how would I go about aplying this fix http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=184734506:16
hak5fan?06:16
stdintamacracka: I'll show you how to delete it06:17
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stdintamacracka: first cd to the desktop "cd Desktop" (case sensitive)06:17
tamacrackaok06:17
tamacrackaok06:18
stdintamacracka: id the folder empty?06:18
stdin*is06:18
tamacrackanope it has mp3s06:18
tamacrackabut i want all of it thrown out06:18
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stdintamacracka: ok :) type "rm -r folder" (replace "folder" with the name of the folder)06:19
tamacrackaif there's spaces06:19
tamacrackado i need to use underscore?06:19
stdintamacracka: no put it in quotes06:20
hak5fanTo fix this error:  i8042.c: Can't read CTR while initializing i8042  I have to do this:06:20
hak5fanThe fix is, when booting with grub, add the following option to the kernel line:06:20
hak5fanusb-handoff06:20
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hak5fanHow do I do this06:20
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stdinhak5fan: you need to put it in to /boot/grub/menu.lst06:20
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tamacracka...06:20
tamacrackahold on06:21
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tamacrackastdin this is the name of the folder on konsole: Goldyn\ Chyld06:21
stdinhak5fan: on the line with "kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6....." at the end (an all the lines with it)06:21
faLUCEHi, how can I write the output of a command directly to a file?06:21
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stdintamacracka: that's ok, using '\' is called "escaping", it lets the command know that the space is part of the name06:22
hak5fanstdin: ok06:22
hak5fantnx06:22
Alarmis there any command i can see how many open connections i have ?06:22
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stdinfaLUCE: easy :) like this "command > filename"06:22
tamacrackaso do i need to type rm -r "Goldyn\ Chyld" ?06:22
Alarmnot what connections but the number of connections06:23
stdintamacracka: yes06:23
faLUCEstdin: thnks06:23
stdin:)06:23
tamacrackarm: cannot remove `Goldyn\\ Chyld': No such file or directory06:23
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stdintamacracka: did you only use 1 '\' ?06:24
tamacrackaoh i see06:24
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tamacrackaif i type \06:24
tamacrackai cant add a space06:24
stdintamacracka: ahh , i see, no, if you quote it, you don't need a '\'06:24
tamacrackaso it would be rm -r "Goldyn\Chyld'06:24
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stdintamacracka: so just type "rm -r Goldyn\ Chyld"06:25
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translationDoes anyone have a problem with alsa sound drivers in Kubuntu 6.10?06:25
tamacrackai can't add a space lol06:25
tamacrackaor it wont recognize it06:25
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stdintamacracka: if you put the "\" before the space, it will06:25
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translationCould some one throw some light on  the "cpu overload- sound server problem" with alsa drivers in kubuntu?06:28
tamacrackait wont let me remove the stupid write protection06:28
stdinAlarm: the only thing I can think of is "sudo cat /proc/net/nf_conntrack|grep ESTABLISHED|wc -l"06:28
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tamacrackanevermind :\06:29
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tamacrackai changed the permission through the properties06:29
Alarmwhat would that command do ?06:29
tamacrackaLOL06:29
tamacrackathanks stdin06:29
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stdintamacracka: ok, we could add write permissions to it with "chmod +w Goldyn\ Chyld" but you can just do "sudo rm -r Goldyn\ Chyld" too06:29
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stdinAlarm: what you wanted, show how many active connections there are06:30
Alarmhope cat wont modify any file06:30
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faLUCEstdin, and how can I do if I want to write to the same file the output of two consecutive commands?06:31
stdinAlarm: no, cat just prints the file, you could do it like this too "sudo grep ESTABLISHED /proc/net/nf_conntrack|wc -l06:31
translation/q06:32
Alarmthank u06:32
stdinnp :)06:32
Alarmgrep: /proc/net/nf_conntrack: No such file or directory06:32
Alarmunfortunatelly06:32
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stdinfaLUCE: you mean write to it twice, without overwriting it ?06:32
faLUCEstdin: yes06:33
stdinAlarm: hmm, have a look in /proc/net there should be something in there with the same info06:33
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Alarmokie thank you06:33
stdinfaLUCE: command1 > file ; command 2 >> file06:34
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faLUCEstdin: what can i say:) thnks again06:35
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TurnTheOtherWayhi again stdin06:35
stdinfaLUCE: no problem. you may find this page/site useful too http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/io-redirection.html06:36
stdinhay TurnTheOtherWay :)06:36
hak5fanstdin: it worked thank you06:36
TurnTheOtherWaythe kubuntu thing went terribly lol06:36
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BluesKajTurnTheOtherWay, why did you have to reinstall windows , did you lose the parition ?06:37
stdinTurnTheOtherWay: I never use the graphical installer, so I'm not an expert on it :P06:37
stdinhak5fan: no proble m :)06:37
stdin*problem :P06:37
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TurnTheOtherWayBluesKaj: i lost everything cos grub wouldnt work and i have a raid drive which i think confused it06:37
TurnTheOtherWaystdin: you use the alternative?06:38
stdinTurnTheOtherWay: yeah, I always use it06:38
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hak5fanI have one more problem though.... even though the modprobe command showed that my nvidia drivers were installed I'm only able to start x right after the installation if i reboot then I get an api mismatch error06:38
TurnTheOtherWaystdin: does it give you the option not to use GRUB?06:38
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chavoI've used both disks with no problem here, but I don't have any raid setups either06:39
BluesKajoh I see , TurnTheOtherWay ...bummer :(06:39
TurnTheOtherWayBluesKaj: definitely. i think i will use the alternative... if i try again. im mentally scarred after that :p06:39
stdinTurnTheOtherWay: yeah, it does, but you do need a bootloader somewhere06:39
d0dgeAny suggestions, why I can't change resolution more than 1024x768? I have NVIDIA drivers for my geforce.06:39
stdin!xconfig06:40
ubotuTo reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". To configure only the driver and resolution, type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh".06:40
d0dge!06:40
d0dgeOh06:40
stdind0dge: use the 2nd command there06:40
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BluesKaj<--- no idea how a raid setup is handled in Kubuntu and afraid to find out :)06:41
d0dgestdin: Ok, in the list I have VESA, should I take nv or NVIDIA06:41
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TurnTheOtherWay_woah wtf my connection to freenode got reset :/06:41
faLUCEstdin: one last question: i have to write to a file the output of two commands (in the same line, with this char "-" between them) ONLY if BOTH commands give me a result06:41
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frojnd!wmv06:42
stdind0dge: if you want to use the binary NVIDIA driver, choose "nvidia", if that fails, use "nv"06:42
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:42
Alarmone more question. i got jdk1.5 installed. but cannot view java with firefox cause the plugin is not installed. found in the repo java plugin for firefox but its the 1.4.2 version, which means a lower version will be installed. can i use java1.5 on the firefox as a plugin to view it on webpages ?06:42
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BluesKaj!RAID06:42
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO06:42
soulriderhi06:42
soulriderdoes anyone know if theres a wine channel on freenode ?06:42
tobi__d0dge: which card is it you want to install ?06:42
stdinAlarm: install "sun-java5-plugin" that's version 1.506:43
stdinsoulrider: #winehq06:43
soulriderthanks stdin06:43
TurnTheOtherWay_hmm a raid page... thanls blues06:43
d0dgestdin: Ok, should I reboot? I made some changes in the resolution list06:43
BluesKajNP . TurnTheOtherWay_06:43
stdind0dge: no, just restart X, logout and choose "restart the X server" from the login menu06:43
d0dgestdin: Okay, thanks for help!06:44
stdinfaLUCE: that's more advanced, you'd get a better answer in #bash :)06:44
Alarmstdin,  in the repo i see just 1.4.2 dude06:44
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bonbonthejonare there any native german speakers I can ask a question06:44
TurnTheOtherWay_!de06:45
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de06:45
TurnTheOtherWay_so yes06:45
TurnTheOtherWay_;)06:45
stdinAlarm: It don't matter, if it's called "sun-java5-plugin" it's for java 1.5, trust me :)06:45
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soulriderAlarm: java 5 == java1.506:46
Alarmokie, thank you a lot06:46
soulriderAlarm: even sun uses those 2 numbers for java 1.5/506:46
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tobi__!mp306:46
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soulriderTurnTheOtherWay_: i think youre turning the other way :P06:46
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TurnTheOtherWay_soulrider: how so? :p06:46
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soulrideruhm.. windows firewall... wtf? o.O06:47
Alarmj2re1.4-mozilla-plugin ,06:47
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Alarmok found also the 506:47
soulriderAlarm: jre1.4 is older06:47
Alarmthank you06:47
soulriderinstall 5 or 1.506:47
TurnTheOtherWay_soulrider: lmao i had to reinstall windows and i only just installed ZA again so have to restart06:47
TurnTheOtherWay_im on the dark side :p06:48
soulriderlol yes06:48
Silentmeis there anyway to restart/reload a device?06:48
soulrideryou have to restart allt he time06:48
soulriderSilentme: like what ?06:48
TurnTheOtherWay_ALL the time06:48
soulriderTurnTheOtherWay_: just use ubuntu! :P06:48
Silentmesoulrider:  webcam06:48
TurnTheOtherWay_soulrider: i cant, installing kubuntu is the reason why i had to redo windows and stuff cos of damned GRUB. :(06:49
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xwolfi'm looking for the config files for programs i want to startup at the time i login to kde06:50
TurnTheOtherWay_which programs?06:51
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soulridersorry, no idea Silentme06:51
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soulriderTurnTheOtherWay_: what happened to your grub ?06:51
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TurnTheOtherWay_soulrider: i got error 2. i think its cos of my RAID.06:52
soulrideroh06:52
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soulrideri cant help you with raid06:52
TurnTheOtherWay_it couldnt even see the hdd lol06:52
soulrider:(06:52
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TurnTheOtherWay_theres a raid help page here, which im viewing in my very safe state :p bt it looks damn complicated lol06:53
bonbonthejonTurnTheOtherWay_: grub can't boot from RAID06:53
TurnTheOtherWay_bonbonthejon: it cant? ah hell.06:53
TurnTheOtherWay_bonbonthejon: what can boot from raid?06:53
MidMarkraid is hell for linux and for your data06:53
bonbonthejonTurnTheOtherWay_: I have a RAID, just put a small /boot partition, then grub works wihthat06:53
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TurnTheOtherWay_you have to custom make it?06:54
TurnTheOtherWay_you use alternative or graphic?06:54
bonbonthejonTurnTheOtherWay_: i ran the alternative install cd, create two partitions, one /boot, the other is for RAID06:54
TurnTheOtherWay_ahhh06:55
bonbonthejonTurnTheOtherWay_: oh, and a swap partition06:55
TurnTheOtherWay_wish i had known that lol06:55
TurnTheOtherWay_thanks06:55
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bonbonthejonTurnTheOtherWay_: grub doesnt have the RAID drivers06:55
bonbonthejonTurnTheOtherWay_: i need to leave, but I should be back in 45 minutes, if you need more help06:56
TurnTheOtherWay_bonbonthejon: no, ive gven up on linux for now lol06:56
TurnTheOtherWay_bonbonthejon: thanks for the offer though06:57
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jjessegood afternoon, is there something i can try to troublshoot why my laptop freezes/stops responding on edgy?07:00
MidMarkjjesse: using skype 1.3?07:01
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jjesseMidMark: no07:01
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MidMarkso check in the log if there are some errors07:01
jjesseit will freeze w/ just konqi opened up07:01
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SilentmeNewly uppgraded from dapper to edgy?07:02
jjesseno fresh install07:02
Silentmefrom cd?07:02
jjesseand i don't ssee any erros in system log07:03
jjesseSilentme: yeah from the desktop cd07:03
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amigraveI cant' find package kuickshow anymore, is there a replacement for it ? I like gwenview for viewing my albums, but kuickshow was faster and I associate it to images because most of the time I want to click on an image and see it fast, then I want to hit esc to quit the program. Is there a kde program that is like kuickshow ?07:03
Silentmegqwiev?07:03
amigraveis gqview a kde or qt program ?07:04
Silentmeg stand for gnome i guess, but it has worked for me in kde ,   if i dont bistake it for gwnview07:04
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amigraveSilentme: yes but I hate gnome file selector and lack of responsiveness of gtk07:05
Silentmewell , it has worked fine for me , in kde07:05
amigraveSilentme: this is the main reason why I use kde ;-)07:05
n8k99amigrave have you tried digikam?07:05
HymnToLifeamen to that07:05
tobi__How do you rip a cd? any hint ?07:06
HymnToLifetobi__, audio CD ?07:06
amigraven8k99: digikam is most like gwenview (correct me if I'm wrong) but I want the lightest viewer possible07:06
Silentmek3b07:06
tobi__audio cd...yes!07:06
HymnToLifeI personnally use !abcde07:06
amigravetobi__: kaudiocreator07:06
HymnToLife!abcde07:07
ubotuabcde: A Better CD Encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3.99.5-1 (edgy), package size 103 kB, installed size 300 kB07:07
chavoamigrave, try kview07:07
chavoyou can also go to the settings and make Esc quit the program07:07
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n8k99amigrave: gwenview is an image viewer, digikam is an image manager - you can edit, tag, export and post from digikam07:07
tobi__does it mp3s ?07:07
n8k99amigrave: but I understand wanting lightweight apps07:08
tobi__my KAudioCreator works, but I was searching days for the lame encoder paket, but didn't find it.07:08
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jjessetobi__:  apt-get install lame07:09
jjesseshould handle it for KAudioCreator07:09
Silentmei have liked gqview its wery easy to use, it has 3 frames 1 to browse 1to view thumbs and 1to see pict in real size07:09
amigraven8k99: well light is not the real term, I mean fast. A program which has not a bloated UI for viewing only purpose. Kuickshow was the best program for me. BTW: do you know why it has been removed ?07:10
tobi__jjesse: tahnks07:10
wimpiesHi all, I run edgy now and an unable to hear sound in presentations.  On my other system I forcefully installed version 2.1 and have no problems.  Presuming 2.1 is in feisty and hearing that Herd2 is out ... is it *now* safe enough to upgrade ?07:10
tobi__i'll try07:10
HymnToLife!kuickshow07:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kuickshow - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:10
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Silentme!gqview07:10
ubotugqview: A simple image viewer using GTK+. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.1-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 707 kB, installed size 2312 kB07:10
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HymnToLifedamn, they removed KS ?07:11
n8k99amigrave: no idea why its not included07:11
HymnToLifeI'm glad I switched back to Debian07:11
chavoamigrave, kview is a little lighter than gwenview did yiu try it?07:11
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n8k99amigrave: if you have all your repos enabled kuickshow is part of kdegraphics07:12
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endo602hey07:12
jjessehey07:12
endo602Can someone walk me through the steps to change my vcard07:13
endo602?07:13
amigravechavo: I remember I tried it when I was searching a viewer and of course it is light, but it is slow on big images and it is slow when you zoom a big image. Well it was a long time ago when I saw these problems, maybe they are corrected now. Going to try again07:14
chavoamigrave, ok but it only starts marginally faster than gwenview for me anyway07:15
amigraven8k99: kdegraphics is a metapackage right ? how can I know what will be installed if I install kdegraphics ? I would like to avoid installing unneeded package07:15
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HymnToLifeamigrave, it's not a metapackage07:16
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HymnToLifeit's one package, but it contains several apps07:16
KillerBeehello07:16
HymnToLifehmm, actually I'm not that sure about it anymore, lemme check07:16
KillerBeeis it posible to install kubuntu on a reiserfs3 filesystem?07:16
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Silentme is there any way to restart/reload a  video device?07:17
Silentme i  tried lsof  but now there is no cam showing, (i was stupid enough to unplug it and pluged it back in, and now it cant find it)07:17
chavoI just installed kdegraphics and there's no kuickshow there either07:17
HymnToLifeKillerBee, certainly, just choose ReiserFS at the partitioning07:17
HymnToLifeyeah indeed, it's not in it either07:18
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KillerBeeoh I never remembered that it has that option07:18
chavoapt-get install *07:18
HymnToLifeon my Debian, kuickshow is in it's own package07:18
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HymnToLifebut it doesn't seem to exist in Ubuntu07:19
HymnToLife!info kuickshow07:19
ubotuPackage kuickshow does not exist in any distro I know07:19
amigraveHymnToLife: yes I found some threads about this now07:19
HymnToLifeseems it has been removed in Dapper...07:19
HymnToLife!info kuickshow breezy07:19
ubotukuickshow: KDE image/slideshow viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu2.5 (breezy), package size 458 kB, installed size 892 kB07:19
TheGateKeepercan you use deborphan to show dependencies on a particular package?07:20
HymnToLifeI guess just installing the Breezy package might work07:20
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waylandbillTheGateKeeper. apt-cache or aptitude show will list the deps.07:21
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SilentmeDo i have to restart my computer again to get my cam to work /be found again !?!07:21
n8k99kuickshow doesn't look like it has been under development since 16/08/0107:21
HymnToLifeor you can go to http://packages.ubuntu.com and search for it07:21
n8k99that maybe why its not in dapper07:21
amigraveHymnToLife: seems to be a metapackage07:21
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HymnToLifeamigrave, yep it is, sorry07:22
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HymnToLifebut Kuickshow is not in it07:22
TheGateKeeperwaylandbill, hmmm don't know suppose you know where I would find the source code for ldd ?07:22
[KillerB] my net went down, anyways it is possible to install kubuntu without removing my prevois user homefolder?07:22
HymnToLife[KillerB] , if you were wise enough to put it on a separate partition, yes07:23
SilentmeDo i have to restart my computer again to get my cam to work /be found again !?!07:23
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HymnToLifeif not, you can still do it now07:23
n8k99sourceforge lists kuikshow's lastest update as 2002-10-16 in CVS, which seems to indicate that it is no longer in development as KDE now uses SVN07:23
[KillerB] I did not but doing it seems like the best ideea07:24
stdinTheGateKeeper: ldd seems to be a bash script07:24
HymnToLife[KillerB] , http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome07:24
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[KillerB] now if I would only have the space to slipt it damn it07:26
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[KillerB] my homefolder is about 100gb07:27
jjessewow that's a huge homefolder07:28
jjesselots of music?07:28
[KillerB] yep07:28
jjessetime to get a usb drive to keep it on :)07:28
jjessethat's what i've done w/ mine07:28
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TheGateKeeperstdin, it's a bash command, I don't know how it was written, but lists dependencies of an app, if I could use it in a c/c++ program I could possible come up with something better than deborphan07:28
[KillerB] what if I just install ubuntu on a temporary drive, remove everything on my gentoo hdd except my homefolder and and copy over ubuntu?07:29
Silentmeis there no one who knows if i have to restart my computer to get my cam to be regonized again (as a video device) ??07:29
n8k99amigrave look on http://kde-apps.org for a graphics viewer to replace kuickshow07:29
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stdinTheGateKeeper: I mean it was written in bash, take a look at it in less (mine is a bash script)07:29
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tobi__!debian07:30
ubotuUbuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship07:30
amigraven8k99: thanks but actually I'm googling in order to find why kuickshow would be deprecated in kubuntu, it seems strange to me07:30
TheGateKeeperstdin, ok thanx :-), damn I will have to reboot back to kubuntu07:30
n8k99amigrave: its because it hasnt been in development since 200207:31
stdinTheGateKeeper: you should always be in kubuntu :P07:31
n8k99last release was 0.8.207:31
amigraven8k99: mhhhhhhh, ok. That's a good reason ;-)07:31
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n8k99amigrave its not even listed as an active kde application07:32
mr_#xubuntu07:32
TheGateKeeperstdin, well I am in gentoo at the moment, so I will have to beg to differ there :-)07:32
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stdinTheGateKeeper: well you can still look at the files on kubuntu in gentoo07:33
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wolfwalkerI still need help, if anyone would like to answer a newbie's idiot questions07:33
wolfwalkerI finally found out where to put command prompts :/07:33
Agent_bob:)07:34
wolfwalkerI downloaded Audacity as a .deb file07:34
amigraven8k99: may I ask you what you do use for quick image viewing ?07:34
TheGateKeeperstdin, ohhh I got here too :P07:34
wolfwalkerNow what do I DO with that .deb file?07:34
mr_Hi! I've got some trouble getting my PCMCIA card to work on an IBM Thinkpad 600X. Can anyone help me, please?07:34
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n8k99amigrave: konqueror can render previews07:34
Agent_bob!repos | wolfwalker07:34
ubotuwolfwalker: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:34
chavowolfwalker, audacity is in the repos07:34
stdinwolfwalker: why don't you use the version in adept ?07:34
wolfwalkerNo, I'm not online on my Kubuntu computer07:35
wolfwalkerI'm on Windows Xp on this one07:35
wolfwalkerthat's why I got the .deb file07:35
n8k99amigrave: they are thumbnails - and then when you want to look at them gwenview is embedded07:35
Agent_bobwolfwalker ok.  dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb07:35
chavowolfwalker, use sudo dpkg -i package.deb07:35
wolfwalkerI tried that07:35
wolfwalker"package" is the full file name, right?07:35
Agent_bobyes07:36
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stdinwolfwalker: are you trying to install audacity in windows?07:36
mr_Hi! I've got some trouble getting my PCMCIA card to work on an IBM Thinkpad 600X. Can anyone help me, please?07:36
wolfwalkerNo, trying to install audacity in Kubuntu07:36
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wolfwalkerAudacity rocks, for the record07:36
Agent_bobstdin linux box is not online07:36
amigraven8k99: maybe you are the person I should ask a question for which I never got a response so far for some years now ...07:36
jjessecan't you just do an apt-get install audacity?07:36
n8k99amigrave:um ok07:36
stdinwolfwalker: aah, so you downloaded the file in windows07:37
wolfwalkerMy linux computer is not online07:37
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mr_Hi! I've got some trouble getting my PCMCIA card (LAN, not W-LAN) to work on an IBM Thinkpad 600X. Can anyone help me, please?07:37
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tom_biggyhello folks!!!07:37
wolfwalkerYes, I downloaded the .deb file for Audacity07:37
wolfwalkerMy internet computer is Windows, yes07:37
wolfwalkerTook the .deb file to my Kubuntu computer07:37
stdinwolfwalker: use "sudo dpkg -i package.deb"  where "package.deb" is the filename of the file you downloaded07:38
tom_biggycould you help me?07:38
chavowolfwalker, it's probably missing some dependencies07:38
tom_biggyi upgraded to KDE 3.5.507:38
tom_biggyand i can hardly mount cd and usb stick07:38
tom_biggy:(07:38
tom_biggyi did the upgrade from the repo shown on www.kubuntu.org07:38
chavoI just did apt-get install audacity and it installed libwxgtk2.4-1 also07:38
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stdinwolfwalker: I think you can use "sudo apt-get --print-uris -f install" to get a list of the dependencies it needs, then sownload them, and install the same way07:39
tom_biggyso can anybody can help me?07:39
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wolfwalker...........07:39
tom_biggywhat should i do?07:39
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Agent_bobwolfwalker audacity depends on  " audacity libflac++5c2 libid3tag0 libsndfile1 libwxgtk2.4-1  "  plus xorg07:40
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wolfwalkerOkay, what if I just drag that computer down here, turn off this computer, plug my modem to the Kubuntu computer, reboot my DSL modem, turn on the Kubuntu computer and try to access the internet.07:40
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tom_biggy:-(07:40
wolfwalkerWill I get online?07:40
tom_biggyhey!07:40
n8k99amigrave ping07:40
tom_biggywhy dontchoo answer?07:41
amigraven8k99: when using konquror in file management view I associate images to kuickview (now I have to search another one) but when I use konqueror as a browser (web view) and I cliack on a link which leads to an image, I want the image to be displayed in konqueror like other browser, I don't want kuickview or whatever to be embeded in konqueror (see what I mean ?) It's a kde related question, but as you seems to use konqueror for i07:41
hak5fanAll (known) bugs in my kubuntu installation is now fixed07:41
Agent_bobwolfwalker likely  but no promiceses07:41
hak5fanI'm happy :D07:41
wolfwalkerlol07:41
wolfwalkerHave there ever been any promises about that?07:41
wolfwalkerlol07:41
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mr_Hi! I've got some trouble getting my PCMCIA card (LAN, not W-LAN) to work on an IBM Thinkpad 600X. Can anyone help me, please?07:41
Agent_bobonly a few.07:41
tom_biggywhy i can't automount anything after upgrading to kde 3.5.5?07:41
wolfwalkerAt least my IP's tech support is top notch07:41
tom_biggy???07:41
n8k99amigrave: can you rephrase that into a question, please?07:42
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tom_biggy?????????????,,07:42
tom_biggyguys!07:42
bubu1uktom_biggy: u can if u setup it in /etc/fstab07:43
tom_biggy?07:43
stdinbubu1uk: you don't put removable devices in fstab, as the device location may change07:43
tom_biggymy etc fstab is ok, this problem appears ONLY AFTER UPGRADING to kde 3.5.507:43
n8k99amigrave: what behavior do you want as a file manager?07:44
amigraven8k99: see last phrase of the post : So finally, the quesion is : is it possible to have different association type for the different konqueror views.07:44
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Agent_bobnow i have a strange anomily   i removed getty from running on tty1  and now it seems that one can type into tty1 and the commands are stored until an openvt -fc 1  command is issued elsewhere then they are executed.      any one know anything about the kernel and console input ?07:44
bubu1ukah, i didnt know whe speaks bout removable. ;)07:44
bubu1ukcame here later. sorry. :p07:44
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tom_biggy:@07:45
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n8k99hmmm... amigrave: I have seen that there are differenet service menus for konqueror that allow you to alter your behaviors in lots of ways07:45
tom_biggythank you for help07:45
amigraven8k99: in my case, I would like that when I click on an image in file management view, the image is opened in an external viewer, but in web view it should be konqueror embeded07:45
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tom_biggyi'd better get back to windows xp07:45
n8k99one sec amigrave07:45
tobi__tom_biggy: Take me with you , please07:45
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tom_biggyok07:45
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tobi__A friend told me it will get better after a few weeks07:46
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tom_biggyhmmm07:46
tom_biggybut how can i solve this fscking problem???07:46
tom_biggyit drives me mad!!!!!07:46
tom_biggyand i can't downgrade kde07:46
wolfwalkerfscking?07:46
tom_biggyyes i don't want to swear07:47
tom_biggy;)07:47
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amigraven8k99: but if you have never be confronted to this problem, you won't see what I mean. It's just one of the thing that annoys me and for what I use firefox instead of konqueror. But as konqueror is faster than firefox, if one day I found a solution to those problems, I'll switch again. Anyway, I don't want to loose your time more, you've helped me enough, so don't bother about this07:47
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wolfwalkerFirefox rocks!07:47
wolfwalkerThere's a reason it's slower07:47
wolfwalkerIt does the job better07:47
n8k99amigrave: I'm confused - you want file manager to open local files in image viewer, but not embedded in konqi - while retaining the embedded viewer for web based images?07:48
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n8k99then turn off file previews under Settings > Configure Konqueror > File Manager behavior07:49
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rolandohola07:50
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rolandoi have a problem with my xorg.conf i have several Device secions and Monitor too07:50
tobi__tom_biggy: why downgrade?07:50
rolandohow can i know which is the right one?07:50
amigraven8k99: yes exactly ! In fact, I can't stand the mix between filemanagement and webbrowsing. This is why I don't like windows's explorer, and in fact konqueror does the same. This is the only thing I don't like in kde07:51
BluesKajit could be cuz your dhcp connection is using ipv6 , there's a fix for speeding up FF and konq by changing the settings to IPv4.07:52
n8k99amigrave:haha! that's exactly what I love about kde!!07:52
rolandoor having several Device,monitor,screen,.. sections in /etc/X11/xorg.conf is normal?07:52
BluesKajthe fix is here : http://tvease.net/wiki/index.php?title=Tweak_ubuntu_for_speed07:52
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tom_biggybecause it doesn't work!!!!07:53
tom_biggyand i can't solve theproblem!!!07:53
amigraven8k99: well I guess that most people want it like this, otherwise kde devs won't do this.  But I think they should let the oprtunity of "others" to do as they want. For me, local file management is one thing and web browsing is another thing.07:55
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n8k99amigrave: you can use dolphin file manager07:55
wolfwalkerStupid irc didn't log it07:55
wolfwalkerOkay, one more time. Would whoever told me what to type tell me again?07:55
wolfwalkerI have Kubuntu on a non-internet computer07:55
wolfwalkerI have downloaded Audacity as a .deb file07:55
wolfwalkerWhat do I now do with the .deb file to install it?07:56
amigraven8k99: dolphin file management ? Going to goole this. In fact I spent more of my time in a shell. But for file management, when I don't use mc I use krusader.07:56
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n8k99amigrave: dolphin is an alternate file manager for kde07:57
n8k99it should be in the repos07:57
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tamacrackaHey guys?07:57
mefisto__does anyone know anything about moto4lin?07:58
wolfwalker'Allo tama07:58
tamacrackafile:///home/tamacracker/Desktop/nicotine+-1.2.6.tar.bz2  <- how do install that file07:58
tamacrackai need to upgrade my nicotine.07:58
n8k99smoke more07:58
n8k99;-)07:58
eihnatwould suggest so. lol07:58
e1hello07:58
wolfwalker..........07:58
eihnat+ some canabis. :p07:58
stdinwolfwalker: easy way to get all the dependencies is to run (from kubuntu) "sudo apt-get --print-uris install audacity" that will print the files you need to get, then (when you d/l them and transfir them to /var/cache/apt/archives) you can just install with "sudo apt-get install audacity"07:58
wolfwalkerTransfer them to what?07:59
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wolfwalkerHow do you get them from the desktop to the /var/cache/apt/archives?07:59
stdinwolfwalker: to that directory on the linux machine07:59
tamacrackaHow do I install a tar.bz2 file?07:59
Minatakustdin: When I saw this pic I thought of you XD >> http://data.furaffinity.net/yolin/1161544597.yolin_chain_headshot.jpg07:59
tobi__tamacracka: is it a tar.gz ?08:00
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eihnattamacracka: u unpack it and then read README08:00
stdintobi__: it's a tar.bz208:00
tamacrackayeah stdin08:00
stdinMinataku: nice, but why ?08:00
tamacrackaok gonna extrct08:00
tamacrackaextract*08:00
Minatakustdin: The coffee08:00
Minatakulol08:00
MinatakuI thought of genii, too, but he's not here right now08:00
MinatakuXD08:00
MinatakuYou two seem to like coffee X308:00
n8k99coffee!?!08:01
stdinMinataku: aah, yes, the coffee :)08:01
stdinMinataku: you're making me get a craving now :P08:01
Minatakulol08:01
MinatakuSorry X308:01
mefisto__does anyone know anything about the moto4lin program?08:01
tobi__tamacracka: extract it and use your paketmanager!08:01
wolfwalkerstdin: How do you get the files to that directory? I'm used to M$'s Windows Explorer and I'm a fish out of water on linux08:01
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tamacrackamy packetmanager?08:01
tamacrackaadept manager?08:01
stdinwolfwalker: how are you getting the audacity deb to linux?08:02
wolfwalkerAnd btw, this time I'm saving this to Notepad so I don't have to ask you again08:02
tobi__adept package ....08:02
tobi__yes08:02
wolfwalkerstdin: flash drive08:02
Minatakun8k99: Indeed, coffee08:02
wolfwalkerThis computer is a Windows08:02
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tamacrackahow would i use it?... hold onlet me read the readme08:02
wolfwalkerI went to Audacity, downloaded the .deb file, got it to my Linux computer with a flash drive08:02
wolfwalkerPut the file on my desktoy08:02
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wolfwalkerAnd.................. now what?08:02
wolfwalkerdesktop*08:03
Minatakun8k99: :o08:03
eihnatwolfwalker: have u tried dpkg command as i told u before?08:03
stdinwolfwalker: on the linux machine, mount the flash drive, then use "kdesu konqueror" and use it to copy and paste the files to /var/cache/apt/archives08:03
Minatakun8k99: The topic of coffe came up via this pic I found :: http://data.furaffinity.net/yolin/1161544597.yolin_chain_headshot.jpg08:03
Minatakulol08:03
Minataku*coffee08:03
tobi__i really don't know where to extract the files, but i think you might use the adept...08:03
wolfwalkerMount?08:03
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wolfwalkerAnd no eihnat, I came back to this computer to check my chat logs to get the command.......... and it didn't log it08:04
wolfwalkerSo I'm back here asking again08:04
wolfwalkerAnd this time, I'm copying to notepad08:04
tamacrackarun ./nicotine ?08:04
stdinwolfwalker: it dose it for you, when you plug in the flash drive, and it asks you what to do with it08:05
wolfwalkereihnat: So if you would repeat that dpkg command?08:05
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jkgruetI've been having intermittent problems ripping CDs with kubuntu/edgy KAudioCreator & lame.  Sometimes it works fine, but other times it either (1) hangs or (2) gives an error message about an unrecognized genre.  Any idea on were to go for help?08:05
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wolfwalkerAhhh08:05
wolfwalkerThanks stdin08:05
n8k99Minataku:nice08:05
stdinnp :)08:05
eihnatwas bubu1uk before. somehow lost connection and bubu1uk sits here. cant change nick. lol08:05
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wolfwalkerSo eihnat, what was that dpkg command again?08:05
Minatakun8k99: Yeah :308:05
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stdineihnat: that's why you register your nick, you can kick the "ghost" off08:06
eihnatdpkg -i packagename.deb i think.08:06
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ashishhello..can ne1 pls tell me, how to install anjuta on kubuntu08:06
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eihnatstdin: ok. how. cuz am registered.08:06
stdinwolfwalker: use sudo before it08:06
wolfwalkersudo dpkg -i packagename.deb?08:06
eihnatwolfwalker: yes08:06
wolfwalkerWith packagename the full package name?08:06
eihnatyes08:07
stdineihnat: /msg NickServ RECOVER NickName Password08:07
stdineihnat: then /msg NickServ RELEASE NickName Password08:07
ashishhello..can anyone pls tell me, how to install anjuta on kubuntu08:07
stdineihnat: /nick NickName08:07
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ashishhelllo08:07
tamacrackapython setup.py install --prefix=<dir>?08:07
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wolfwalkerSo the full command would be sudo dpkg -i audacity_1.2.4b-2.1ubuntu1_i386.deb08:08
bubu1uktest08:08
stdinwolfwalker: that's right08:08
wolfwalkerI TRIED that!08:08
stdinbubu1uk: well done :)08:08
wolfwalkerIt just didn't do anything08:08
ashishi get an error08:08
bubu1ukah, ok. thanx stdin. am not really familiar with irc. lol08:08
tamacrackado i need to type this, to install the updated nicontine: python setup.py install --prefix=<dir>08:08
wolfwalkerAlthough I don't know linux worth squat, I do know a bit about IRC08:08
bubu1ukwolfwalker: no error output?08:08
stdinbubu1uk: '/msg NickServ help' is a good place to start :)08:08
wolfwalkerWhat's the question?08:08
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ashishhello..can anyone pls tell me, how to install anjuta on kubuntu08:09
asafuse package maneger08:09
tamacrackahow?!08:09
tamacrackawhat do you mean ><08:09
ashishor is there ne other c/c++ compiler(leaving gcc/g++)08:09
mefisto__wolfwalker: try right-click on the deb file, then Kubuntu Package menu > Install Package08:09
wolfwalkertama, I'm in the same boat08:09
tamacrackapackage manager doesnt see the file.08:09
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ashishk..08:09
casev01hi08:09
tamacrackai have the file on my desktop08:10
wolfwalkerWell I'm off to try this08:10
wolfwalkerAgain08:10
casev01someone know a good howto of apt-build?08:10
wolfwalkerAnd maybe get it right this time08:10
wolfwalkerThanks for the help folks08:10
wolfwalkerI'll be back with more annoying newbie questions later08:10
wolfwalker:/08:10
ashishi am waiting08:10
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tamacrackascrew it im goin with: python setup.py install --prefix=/home/tamacracker/.nicotine08:10
n8k99ashish cmake08:10
ashishyes08:11
stdinashish: enable universe then install it with adept, you can also use kdevelop (the KDE version)08:11
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tamacrackawhere are all the old skool people at :(08:11
tamacrackathey're were quick and helpful08:11
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Edulixhi08:11
stdintamacracka: what are you trying to install ?08:11
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tamacrackanicotine.. i downloaded a tarball file08:12
Edulixhow can I configure konqueror (the filemanager) to use the tree view by default?08:12
stdintamacracka: and you don't want the one from ubuntu why?08:12
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tamacrackafile:///home/tamacracker/Desktop/Wutang/nicotine+-1.2.6.tar.bz208:12
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tamacrackawhat do you mean i dont want one from ubuntu?!?!08:12
tamacrackathe one in adept08:13
tamacrackais old.08:13
tamacrackavery old.08:13
tamacrackano longer works.08:13
dave_sEdulix you should be able to do it by setting up konqueror as you want it to appear08:13
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Edulixdave_s: how exactly?08:13
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mefisto__Edulix: in konq, go to Settings, File Associations, inode, directory08:13
tamacrackathe one from the adept manager is no longer working... it's not supported.08:13
EdulixI can change the view, but it doesn't get saved08:13
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Edulixok08:13
dave_sSo you can get the tree view to appera Edulix?08:14
stdintamacracka: so what's in the downloaded file ?08:14
bubu1uktar.bz208:14
Edulixdave_s: of course, but not by default08:14
Edulixmefisto__: I'll try that08:14
mefisto__Edulix:08:14
tamacrackafile:///home/tamacracker/Desktop/Wutang/nicotine+-1.2.6/doc08:14
tamacrackafile:///home/tamacracker/Desktop/Wutang/nicotine+-1.2.6/files08:14
tamacrackafile:///home/tamacracker/Desktop/Wutang/nicotine+-1.2.6/img08:14
stdintamacracka: use pastebin08:14
mefisto__Edulix: then the Embedding tab, and move the default view you want to the top of the list08:14
tamacracka... i would have to give you a screen shot.08:15
tamacrackathere's a lot of folders08:15
tamacrackaand seperate files08:15
Edulixmefisto__: thanks08:15
firecrotchOkay, I know that this question belongs on #ubuntu-server, but no one there is active... How can I set up FTP on my ubuntu server?08:15
stdintamacracka: better still then, give me a link to download it, then I can see :)08:15
Admiral_Chicago!ftp | firecrotch08:15
ubotufirecrotch: FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd08:15
tamacrackaok!08:15
dave_sEdulix, you need to save the configuration go to settings --> save view profile08:15
Edulixtree mode rocks ;)08:15
Admiral_Chicagothat mayh help...08:15
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firecrotchOkay, so I have to install ftpd first, gotcha08:15
mace`i ve problems to play mp3 files with amaroK. The songs dont start to play, there's just displayed the text for about half a secound. Any suggestions?08:16
Edulixdave_s: mefisto__ way already worked thanks anyway :)08:16
Admiral_Chicagorescan your collection08:16
stdinmace`: did you install mp3 support?08:16
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tamacrackahttp://thegraveyard.org/daelstorm/nicotine-plus.php08:16
tamacracka^ stdin08:16
mace`stdin: mh, ok i have to?08:16
bubu1ukfirecrotch: choose which ftp server u want to install. one of those08:16
stdinmace`: yes https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP308:16
n8k99mace you need to setup mp3 support08:16
Admiral_Chicagosudo apt-get install libxine-extracode08:16
Admiral_Chicagoin a konsole08:16
TheGateKeepermace`, yes install libxine-extracodecs & make sure amarok is using the xine engine08:17
wolfwalkerOkay, so I entered sudo dpkg -i audacity_1.2.4b-2.1ubuntu1_i386.deb08:17
mace`thanks stdin08:17
firecrotchOkay, installed ftpd, but I get errors: grep: /etc/inetd.conf: No such file or directory08:17
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firecrotchgrep: /etc/inetd.conf: No such file or directory08:17
wolfwalkerIt said there was no such file08:17
wolfwalkerThe file is on the desktop08:17
mace`TheGateKeeper:  ok thanks08:17
TheGateKeeperyw:-)08:17
firecrotchwolfwalker: are you at the desktop?08:17
firecrotchcd ~/Desktop08:17
mefisto__wolfwalker: try right-click on the deb file, then Kubuntu Package menu > Install Package08:17
bubu1ukwolfwalker: sudo dpkg -i /home/username/Desktop/audacity_1.2.3b-2.1ubuntu1_i386.deb08:17
wolfwalkerWell, my Kubuntu computer is upstairs, but yes, the file I'm trying to install it and the file is on the desktop08:18
bubu1ukor do what mefisto__ told u.08:18
tamacrackathere's a debian version but im on edgy.08:18
tamacrackadunno if that makes a difference.08:18
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bubu1uktamacracka: then download debian version08:19
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wolfwalkerHere we go round the mulberry bush, the mulberry bush, the mulberry bush08:19
tamacrackawill it be compatible with edgy?... i could just download it through konsole.08:19
Admiral_Chicagotamacracka: what do you want to install?08:20
stdintamacracka: "sudo python setup.py install" should work08:20
tamacrackanicontine's latest updated program08:20
tamacrackastdin08:20
Admiral_Chicagooh latest, not sure08:20
tamacrackado i need to cd onto that directory?08:20
bubu1uktamacracka: ubuntu is debian based, so deb should work.08:20
Admiral_Chicagosudo dpkg -i *.deb08:20
Admiral_Chicagowherever the deb is installed08:20
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tamacrackasudo su -c 'echo "deb http://www.nicotine-plus.org/debian branch main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list'08:21
tamacrackasudo aptitude update08:21
tamacrackasudo aptitude install nicotine08:21
tamacrackaack >08:21
tamacracka><08:21
tamacrackasorry08:21
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stdintamacracka: ahh, there is a repo?08:21
tamacrackadebian version08:21
tamacrackai thought debian was different than egy >.>08:22
Admiral_Chicagothere is an unofficial repo, but it should work08:22
tamacrackaedgy08:22
bubu1ukedgy is just codename for ubuntu distro08:22
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firecrotchI assume that now that I have ftpd installed, I have to set up an FTP user using useradd? Anything I have to be aware of?08:23
stdintamacracka: you want to add "deb http://www.nicotine-plus.org/debian sarge main" to /etc/apt/sources.list08:23
Admiral_Chicagono, it's a code for a *release*08:23
rich__hi08:23
tamacrackastdin what's the script again to open up the sources.list?08:23
stdintamacracka: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list08:24
bubu1ukwell, that's what i wanted to say. not good talkin to too many ppl bout too many different things. u get lost in context. lol08:24
rich__is it possible to use my mic08:24
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wolfwalkerOkay, NOW I got the dependency list08:24
rich__is it possible to use my mic08:24
tobi__stdin: i found a package to install the lame enc for my KAudioCreator, after extract there is a Debain folder with a lot of files, any idea what i shall do to get the package installed?08:24
wolfwalkerSo now where do I go to get all these lovely packages I need to install?08:24
tobias_hey does anyone have experiences with warsow on kubuntu ?08:24
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Admiral_Chicagoadept >> wolfwalker...maybe08:25
wolfwalkerMy Kubuntu computer is not online08:25
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stdintobi__: is it source code?08:25
rich__hey08:25
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rich__hey08:25
Admiral_Chicagoyou can't install offline, unless you use the CD08:25
rich__is it possible to use my mic in here08:25
phobiacIs there anything for kubuntu that can create a multi-boot cd?08:25
tamacrackabranch?!?!08:25
tobias_no i think there is something like executables08:25
tamacrackai mean08:26
tamacrackasarge?08:26
Admiral_Chicagorich__: yes08:26
tamacrackaisn't branch?08:26
Admiral_Chicagophobiac: multi-boot?08:26
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BluesKajwolfwalker, what sort of connection are you trying to establish , dhcp with a dsl modem or router ?08:26
bubu1ukwolfwalker: u'll have to search for them. but dont forget to check proper versions.08:26
Admiral_Chicagotamacracka: you can use sarge repos in ubuntu08:26
stdintamacracka: you are supposed to replace "branch" with your distro, just use sarge tho08:26
tamacrackaoh ok08:26
tamacrackathen sudo apt-get nicotine yes?08:27
phobiacAdmiral_Chicago: Where you burn more then one .iso to a CD or DVD but it has something not unlike a bootloader that allows you to decide which .iso to run.08:27
stdintamacracka: yeah08:27
Admiral_Chicagophobiac: oh i see, i'm not sure08:27
tamacrackai dont think it's installing the right one.08:27
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wolfwalkerHow many versions are there, and how do I know I'm getting the correct one?08:27
stdintamacracka: have you updated the package list yet?08:28
Admiral_Chicagotamacracka: it will install the latest one08:28
tamacrackai just opened the nicotine08:28
tamacrackaand it's still 1.2.408:28
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Admiral_Chicagosudo apt-get update08:28
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tamacrackayeah doin it right now :P08:29
Admiral_Chicagosudo apt-cache show nicotine08:29
BluesKaj!nicotine08:29
ubotunicotine: graphical client for the SoulSeek peer-to-peer system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4.1-1 (edgy), package size 373 kB, installed size 1956 kB08:29
Admiral_Chicagoit'll be >1.2.4. i think08:29
tamacrackaoh for edgy it's 1.2.408:29
tamacrackaok ok08:29
stdinit'll be  1.2.608:29
tamacrackaso 1.2.6 isn't for edgy then08:29
stdinno, 1.2.6 it the one in the repo you put in08:30
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tamacrackai know ><08:30
tamacrackabut i still have 1.2.408:30
tamacrackacould it be because it's downloading the edgy file08:30
Admiral_Chicagothe default it will update it08:30
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brett__the sound stopped working on the videos on webpages. It still works in my games. Can someone help me troubleshoot it?08:30
Admiral_Chicagoapt-cache show nicotine says what version?!?08:30
stdintamacracka: did you run "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get upgrade" ?08:30
tamacrackaoh no...08:30
tamacrackahold on08:31
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wolfwalkerOkay, when I save a simple text file to this flash drive from my kubuntu computer, my XP computer won't read it from the flash drive08:31
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wolfwalkerIt considers the drive empty08:31
Admiral_Chicagowolfwalker: does it have an extension.08:31
Admiral_Chicagolike .txt08:31
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wolfwalker.txt08:32
wolfwalkerYes08:32
Admiral_Chicagohmm, okay. it may not be saving properly08:32
Admiral_Chicagonot sure how to help on that08:32
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phobiac Do you have view hidden files and folders enabled in the windows computer?08:32
tobi__i found a package to install the lame enc for my KAudioCreator, after extract there is a Debain folder with a lot of files, any idea what i shall do to get the package installed? PLease help me ...08:32
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ravermeister hello can anybody tell me where i can find the Storage media.desktop in my filesystem?08:34
phobiacwolfwalker: Do you have view hidden files and folders enabled on the windows computer?08:34
wolfwalkerYup08:34
wolfwalkerAnd besides, why would a text file be hidden?08:34
ravermeisterits the one you can see when you open konqueror with system:/08:34
wolfwalkerBut yeah, I toggled all hidden files visible08:35
phobiacwolfwalker: Just a guess08:35
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boggystudios_would a broadcom wireless card keep a kubuntu install disc from loading?08:35
wolfwalkerFormat for this flash drive is FAT3208:35
Admiral_Chicagoravermeister: /media08:35
wolfwalkerKubuntu should be able to write to that.......... yes?08:35
ravermeisterno08:35
stdintobi__: if it's source code then you need to install "build-essential" first, then run (from the source dir) "sudo debian/rules binary" that should make a .deb file08:35
phobiacYes it should08:35
ravermeisterthats the location where it points to08:35
mariohola! algun canal en espaol?08:36
ravermeisterits a link, a .desktop file from kde08:36
wolfwalkerIt sure can read from it08:36
Admiral_Chicago!es | mario08:36
ubotumario: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.08:36
ravermeisterand it points since kde3.5 to /media08:36
ravermeisteri want to edit it to media:/08:36
Admiral_Chicagoog you want media://08:36
ravermeisterbut i can't find the .desktop file08:36
wolfwalkerlol08:36
Admiral_Chicagoin Konqueror I think08:36
phobiacwolfwalker: Are you removing the drive safely?08:36
mario:) tanks08:37
wolfwalkerDefine safely08:37
bubu1ukwolfwalker: remove safely.08:37
phobiacWhen you have something mounted in kubuntu, if you right click on it's icon on the desktop you have the option to safely remove or something similar.08:37
wolfwalkerHow do you do that? I'm used to Windows hotplugables, just take it out when it's through writing the file08:37
bubu1ukwolfwalker: a.k.a. umount it first. (right click on drive icon and choose safe remove)08:37
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bubu1ukwolfwalker: u should do that on win machine too08:38
phobiacYeah you should08:38
wolfwalkerI'm just used to taking the drive out08:38
wolfwalkerI don't know anything about removing it safely08:38
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phobiacIt prevents issues with something using the drive while you take it out.08:38
wolfwalkerYeah, I wait until the light on the flash drive stops strobing08:39
wolfwalkerIndicating it is done writing to the flash drive08:39
phobiacOkay, well now you do know. Try it out and see if it works.08:39
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ravermeisterhmm im searching thrugh /usr/share08:39
ravermeisterbut cant find anythinh08:39
wolfwalkerDid I ever mention how much of a linux newb I am?08:39
wolfwalkerGoing back to try again...........08:39
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I-04hey guys, how do i "lock" a package in Adept? meaning, prevent it from updating to a newer version?08:39
phobiacwolfwalker: It's okay. You should be doing it in windows too however.08:39
stdinI-04: you can't in adept08:40
bubu1ukwolfwalker: but that means u'r new to windows too. lol08:40
I-04stdin: is there any other way?08:40
I-04stdin: i know there's aptitude hold08:40
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I-04but adept still tried to update08:40
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I-04or tries, rather08:40
stdinI-04: adept usually ignores aptitude08:41
I-04yeah, it seems so08:41
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stdinI-04: I know you can do it in synaptic, but not adept08:41
I-04is there any other solution?08:41
tamacrackastdin08:41
tamacrackait didn't upgrage ><08:41
I-04yes, synaptic locks it08:41
tamacrackamaybe it's not meant to update cuz im on edgy?08:41
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stdinI-04: use synaptic, that's what I use08:41
I-04but im kind of migrating to kde now08:42
Admiral_Chicagoravermeister: what are you tying to do08:42
Admiral_Chicagoplease tell me in detail08:42
wolfwalkerNo, I'm NOT new to Windows08:42
I-04stdin:  wasnt gonna mix anything gnome-related to kde. is there any other way?08:42
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I-04i wasn't*08:42
tamacrackaoh wait.. adept says it's upgradable now08:43
wolfwalkerAnyway08:43
wolfwalkerThis is what I got when I tried to install Audacity08:43
ravermeisterthx have done it, it is in /usr/share/apps/systemview/08:43
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wolfwalkerSelecting previously deselected package audacity.08:43
wolfwalker(Reading database ... 79110 files and directories currently installed.)08:43
wolfwalkerUnpacking audacity (from .../audacity_1.2.4b-2.1ubuntu1_i386.deb) ...08:43
wolfwalkerdpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of audacity:08:43
wolfwalkeraudacity depends on libid3tag0 (>= 0.15.1b); however:08:43
wolfwalkerPackage libid3tag0 is not installed.08:43
ravermeisterand then media.desktop08:43
wolfwalkeraudacity depends on libmad0 (>= 0.15.1b); however:08:43
stdinI-04: nope, not that I know of, you could ask in KDE if there is a way08:43
wolfwalkerPackage libmad0 is not installed.08:43
wolfwalkeraudacity depends on libwxgtk2.4-1 (>= 2.4.4.1.1ubuntu2); however:08:43
ravermeisteri want to change the link08:43
wolfwalkerPackage libwxgtk2.4-1 is not installed.08:43
wolfwalkerdpkg: error processing audacity (--install):08:43
wolfwalkerdependency problems - leaving unconfigured08:43
ravermeisterfrom /media to media:/08:43
ravermeister:)08:43
wolfwalkerErrors were encountered while processing:08:43
wolfwalkeraudacity08:43
Lynoure!pastebin | wolfwalker08:43
ubotuwolfwalker: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:43
Admiral_Chicagoravermeister: which link?08:43
I-04actually, is it safe to remove adept, and just aptitude?'08:43
wolfwalkerPastebin?08:43
wolfwalkerThat's a good idea, actually08:43
tamacrackaack... when trying to apply upgrades i get this error: There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.08:43
marco1zougadeath08:44
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ravermeisterthis one --> usr/share/apps/systemview/media.desktop08:44
ravermeisterthis one --> /usr/share/apps/systemview/media.desktop08:44
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stdinI-04: depends what you mean by safe :P, but you can use aptitude if you want, without removing adept08:44
ravermeisterif you open it with an editor yu can change the link value08:44
I-04stdin: that annoying tray icon pops up all the time, telling me there's an update :\08:44
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wolfwalkerSo where do I look for these dependency files?08:45
ravermeisterand then when you type system:/ and click on the .desktop file it gets to the new link value08:45
I-04stdin: my problem is, i compiled gaim 2.0beta5 from source, but adept thinks the repo version (1.5) is newer08:45
wolfwalkerLike libid3tag0 (>= 0.15.1b)08:45
wolfwalkerWhere do I find these?08:45
stdinI-04: you can ask in #kde if adept will listen to something, it may listen to dselect08:45
I-04stdin: thanks, i will do that08:45
stdinI-04: why don't you just make a deb from the source?08:45
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kimmernHey! My machine has two partitions..i've installed kubuntu on one of them, but how do i get to see the content on the other one?08:46
phobiackimmern: Mount the partition08:46
stdinI-04: I use "checkinstall" to make debs from source, then adept (or whatever) won't try to upgrade it08:46
stdinI-04: or you can remove gaim with adept, then install from source again08:47
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I-04stdin: thats what i did, actually08:47
wolfwalkerOh by the way, unmounting the flash drive resolved my (stupid, idiot-spawned) problem08:47
wolfwalkerI TOLD you I'm a newb :P08:47
phobiacwolfwalker: As long as it's working now :P08:48
wolfwalkerSo where do I find these dependency files?08:48
wolfwalkerGoogle was no help08:48
I-04stdin: i installed dapper, then compiled gaim08:48
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tamacrackastdin08:48
I-04stdin: you might be using edgy08:48
phobiacwolfwalker: What are you using to download audacity?08:48
tamacrackahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1594/ <- when you have a chance08:48
kimmernphobiac: and excactly what do i type?08:48
wolfwalkerWhat OS? Windows XP. Downloaded it as a .deb file and transfered it to my Kubuntu computer with the flash drive08:49
stdinI-04: it doesn't matter, you can specify the version number with checkinstall, then adept won't try to upgrade08:49
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phobiackimmern: Do you know the paritions location? Like hda1 or something?08:49
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phobiacwolfwalker: Wait, there's a command in apt-get for this.08:49
wolfwalkerMy Kubuntu computer is not online08:50
wolfwalkerSo apt-get would not be of any help08:50
wolfwalkerI think.............08:50
stdintamacracka: what version of kubuntu are you using ?08:50
phobiacYou'll need to be online to get those dependencies unless you want to install them manually.08:50
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wolfwalkerYesh08:51
phobiacWhich would be time consuming.08:51
wolfwalkerInstall manually08:51
tamacrackastdin08:51
sorush20is there an automatic background changer anywhere ?08:51
tamacrackai think i got it08:51
wolfwalkerBetter than hauling the computer and all its junk downstairs and reorienting the internet connection08:51
wolfwalkerRight?08:51
phobiacwolfwalker: Probably not08:51
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wolfwalker.......08:51
wolfwalkerOkay08:51
tamacrackastdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1597/08:51
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tamacrackais everything lookin right?08:51
stdinsorush20: System Settings -> Desktop -> Slideshow08:52
tamacrackafrom 1.2.4. to 1.2.608:52
phobiacwolfwalker: Hold on08:52
wolfwalkerSo I take the computer, monitor, mouse and keyboard downstairs, shut down this Windows computer, switch the modem to my Kubuntu computer, reinitialize the modem, turn the computer on08:52
mefisto__wolfwalker: get a longer cable08:52
stdintamacracka: try it08:52
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wolfwalkerSo now where do I go, Adept?08:52
tamacrackaok08:52
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dopeis there a bittorent client that's all comandline?08:53
wolfwalkermefisto: I'd have to get a router too, unless I just keep switching cables out08:53
spitwisebtdownloadcurses08:53
phobiacwolfwalker: There's about 15 or so depencies, which could be dependent on other things. You could end up working for a few hours if you wanted to do it manually.08:53
phobiacdependcies*08:53
spitwisebittornado i think is the package name dope08:53
bubu1ukwolfwalker: u can just switch cables if u dont want to be online with linux.08:53
mefisto__wolfwalker: I mean as an alternative to hauling everything downstairs08:53
wolfwalkerAh08:54
tamacracka::crosses fingers::08:54
bubu1ukwolfwalker: just to update/install stuff and then unplug.08:54
wolfwalkerThat would be a mightly looooooooooong cable08:54
dopeah ok coo coo and is there anything that works as well as peerguardian2 but for linux?08:54
tamacrackawooooooooot08:54
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tamacrackastdin08:54
tamacrackathank you again my friend :P08:54
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spitwisei dunno that app08:54
wolfwalkerSo I take the computer, monitor, mouse and keyboard downstairs, shut down this Windows computer, switch the modem to my Kubuntu computer, reinitialize the modem, turn the computer on08:54
stdindope: yeah, it's rtorrent (that's only one of them)08:54
wolfwalkerSo now I'm online on my Kub computer08:54
wolfwalkerSo now what?08:54
wolfwalkerObjective is to install Audacity08:54
phobiacwolfwalker: Open up adept, type audacity in, and install the package.08:55
wolfwalker..................08:55
wolfwalkerJust like that?08:55
phobiacYes08:55
wolfwalker...............08:55
wolfwalker.............................................08:55
phobiacYou might need to enable your repositories first08:55
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phobiacwolfwalker: If you don't understand something ask, don't spam with dots.08:55
mefisto__wolfwalker: installing stuff is normally very easy in kubuntu08:55
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wolfwalkerWhere can you get a really, really, REALLY long usb cable?08:56
e1hi i'm trying to install wine with budgetdedicated.com repo, it said i need key, where do i get this key from, google didn't help08:56
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mefisto__wolfwalker: a long usb cable probably won't work for your modem08:57
wolfwalkerData flow conflicts?08:57
wolfwalkerHow long can it be?08:57
phobiacwolfwalker: What about just switching the haddrives?08:57
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sorush20how do I stop that silly download pupon when I use konqueror08:57
wolfwalkerSwitching the hard drives?08:57
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Yeti_69!french08:58
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.08:58
wolfwalkerSurely you jest. I don't even know how to install ram08:58
stdinI-04: so adept can't do it08:58
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phobiacYeah, take the one from the upstairs computer and put it in the downstairs one.08:58
I-04stdin: yeah, he could have said that in the first place.08:58
stdinI-04: use checkinstall to make a deb, and make the version higher than the one adept wants to install08:59
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wolfwalkerI'll just haul the computer downstairs to the modem tomorrow sometime and go shopping for programs08:59
stdinI-04: then adept will stop bi**hing about it :P08:59
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I-04stdin: thats the thing. the version i have installed IS higher08:59
mefisto__phobiac: he would need more than just the harddrive08:59
wolfwalkerWhile I'm hauling it, any suggestions for really good audio-nut programs?08:59
I-04the repo version is gaim 1.5, the compiled one is 2.0 beta 508:59
stdinI-04: make the version for the deb, not the actual source version08:59
I-04stdin, how do i do that?09:00
sorush20I want to stop the progress dialogue in konqueror when it downloads something.. is there any way that I could do this/09:00
mefisto__wolfwalker: ardour09:00
wolfwalkerAnd it does what?09:00
stdinI-04: in the source tree do "sudo checkinstall"09:00
I-04right09:00
mefisto__wolfwalker: multitrack recording09:01
waylandbillI-04. The other way is to install the program with apt-get and then get the source and install it so it overwrites the files. Problem solved.09:01
boggystudios_ardour.org09:01
I-04stdin: is there a way to automate the process09:01
wolfwalkermefisto__: Better than Audacity?09:01
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unclemike? isent /hda5 supose to be ext3 /..6.10 is showing it /dev /hda5 ? /      UUID=adc ext3 /09:01
mefisto__wolfwalker: yes, but not as simple of course09:01
I-04checkinstall -v or something for version09:01
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mefisto__wolfwalker: have you used cubase?09:01
bubu1ukmefisto__: better than audacious?09:01
wolfwalkerWell that's one reason I like Audacity09:01
stdinI-04: not really no, just press 3 to change the version to 2.0 go from there09:01
wolfwalkercubase costs09:02
wolfwalkerI'm strictly freeware09:02
I-04ok09:02
mefisto__ardour is free09:02
I-04stdin: thanks09:02
wolfwalkerAny other suggestions for a music twiddler?09:02
wolfwalkerAudio cd burner? Format converter?09:02
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stdinI-04: let me know if it works :)09:02
mefisto__wolfwalker: you should have that already09:03
wolfwalkerCD ripper?09:03
I-04stdin: will do, i'll have to try it later, though. im not at my home pc at the moment09:03
wolfwalkerI do?09:03
wolfwalkerOh, that09:03
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stdinI-04: I'll probably be here all night :P09:03
wolfwalkerWill the in-house cd burner burn without leaving (*&%*(^&@#&*($^ gaps on my concert cds?09:03
mefisto__wolfwalker: k3b for burning09:03
I-04stdin, cool heh, thanks for the help!09:03
wolfwalkerYeah, k3b. Will it burn gapless?09:03
stdinI-04: no problem09:03
I-04wolfwalker, yes it will09:04
mefisto__you mean audio gaps?09:04
wolfwalkerI mean the one-tenth second to sometimes as much as two second gap that most freeware CD burn programs leave between tracks09:04
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I-04wolfwalker, it's gapless by default, afaik09:05
wolfwalkerAs a registered, card-carrying music nut, it drives me straight up the wall09:05
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wolfwalkerafaik?09:05
I-04as far as i know09:05
wolfwalkerAh09:05
wolfwalkerT'anks09:05
externI always keep forgetting, what is the command for listing all file systems on my hdd?09:05
bubu1ukextern: df?09:05
wolfwalkerThanks to all09:06
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wolfwalkerI'll just haul the computer then09:06
wolfwalkerCiao for now09:06
mefisto__wolfwalker: this was my experience: k3b does make things gapless, but playing the cd with kaffeine, etc always has a slight pause when changing to the next track09:06
externno, I need it to list all file systems that there are on my hdd09:06
wolfwalkerI shall return shortly, with more annoying newbie questions09:06
externthere was some command with -l option to it09:06
wolfwalkerOh, testing the cd is easy. Just put it in my cd player09:06
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externthe program was actually disk partitioner09:06
JosefKextern: mount | grep /dev/*d* ?09:07
phobiacextern: qtparted?09:07
JosefKfdisk -l /dev/hdd09:07
externyes09:07
externthat's the one09:07
JosefKhas to be run as root though09:07
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kleesi'm having problems with conky (1.4.5) where the background is black09:08
kleesanyone has any ideas?09:08
stdinJosefK: depends if he's in the "disk" group09:08
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kleesi have own_window_transparent yes09:08
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JosefKstdin: ah, didn't know that - thanks09:08
mefisto__klees: View, configure background?09:09
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stdinJosefK: heh :)09:09
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kleesmefisto__: i don't understand09:09
mefisto__view menu09:09
JosefKstdin: although, if 'disk' has write access too, I'm guessing that's a group less than frequently used? :)09:09
mefisto__klees: are you talking about konqueror?09:10
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kleesmefisto__: conky09:10
stdinJosefK: it's default for the user made at install09:10
JosefKstdin: doesn't seem to be here :/09:10
tobi__any idea, which window-manager looks like OS ?09:10
mefisto__klees: sorry I don't know conky09:10
JosefKstdin: nope, user made during install and 'disk' not in 'groups''09:11
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kleesdoes anyone have conky experience???09:11
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KyralI do09:11
Kyralwhats up?09:11
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stdinJosefK: it's always been default for me, maybe because I use the alternate cd, but I've always been in "6(disk)"09:12
KyralConky + Fluxbox == Sexy09:12
kleesKyral: i can't seem to enable transparency09:12
kleesKyral: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1599/09:12
JosefKstdin: ah, that sounds about right, the alternate cd hung on this box so I had to use the live cd installer09:12
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stdinJosefK: I always use the alternate one, not because I can't use the live cd, just because I like to be able to configure everything before the 1st boot :)09:13
Kyralklees: http://conky.sourceforge.net/faq.html Look at 5, have you tried that?09:13
Kyral(Keep in mind I have never used Conky with KDE, only Fluxbox)09:14
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kleesKyral: =(09:14
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xenophile7x7does anyone know of any kubuntu software packages for drive sanitizing?09:14
Kyralsanitzing?09:14
firecrotchcan anyone help me set up an FTP server?09:14
Kyrallike erasing completely?09:15
Kyrallike so completely its impossible to recover?09:15
Kyralxenophile7x7: ?09:15
amigravechavo: I made some test with some image viewer concerning the chat we had, and I can't tell you that kview is more than 2 times slower than qwenview for rendering a 2Mo jpg. And some times ago my tests showed that kuickshow was faster than gwenview. I guess kubuntu will lack a fast & light image viewer.09:15
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xenophile7x7Kyral: yes09:16
externis Eclipse working for anyone?09:16
firecrotchI tried installing proftpd, but couldn't figure out how to set up FTP users09:16
amigravechavo: s/I can't tell/I can tell/09:16
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Kyralxenophile7x7: Mkay...I shall tell you09:16
Kyralxenophile7x7: But be aware...this will fsck up the HD and to recover you'll need a FULL repartition09:16
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Kyralxenophile7x7: PM?09:16
xenophile7x7Kyral: sure09:16
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Kyral( I don't want someone to see this and go "OOO! Good Idea! *****!!"09:17
xenophile7x7Kyral: lol, np09:17
xenophile7x7Kyral: lol, apparently i cant type back to you in the pm09:19
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Kyralxenophile7x7: is your Nick registered with NickServ?09:19
xenophile7x7no09:19
xenophile7x7not yet09:19
Kyral!register09:19
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration09:19
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KyralThats why09:19
xenophile7x7ahh, ok.09:19
xenophile7x7yes, it seems simple enough, but just to clarify09:19
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mefisto__Kyral: tell us all how to erase our disks09:20
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Kyraluse /dev/urandom instead of /dev/zero to **** it up :D09:20
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xenophile7x7by 'fsck up the HD' you just mean destroying all the data correct? ill still be able to repartition and reformat?09:20
Kyralxenophile7x7: yah09:20
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KyralIts scary how much rope Linux gives you to hang yourself sometimes :D09:20
malik_whats the difference between firefox from mopzilla website and the one from ubuntu repos?09:20
KyralThis is why the root is scared09:20
Kyralerr09:20
Kyralscacred09:20
Kyralwhatever09:20
I-04stdin: it worked, and there is also a way to automatically set the version. sudo checkinstall --pkgversion=<version>09:21
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n8k99malik_ ubuntu specific security fixes09:21
xenophile7x7lol, tis a nifty little command though09:21
xenophile7x7ill def. be keepin it in mind09:21
stdinI-04: ahh, I'll have to read the man page more :P09:21
Kyraldd is also great for making ISO Images09:21
michel_Uptime: 2 hours and 41 minutes09:21
I-04stdin: yep, found it in there09:21
Kyralwhich because I'm in a good mood, shall tell you all! :D09:21
Kyraldd if=/dev/<your cd drive> of=/path/to/new/ISO09:22
Kyraljust hit that and let fly09:22
KyralDon't even need root09:22
malik_oki thanx09:22
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stdinI-04: so adept now sees that you have v2.0 installed?09:22
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xenophile7x7whats the diff between dev/zero and dev/random?09:23
I-04stdin: yes, it stopped complaining09:23
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Kyral/dev/zero produces an endless stream of 0s09:23
mefisto__Kyral: is the if and of in that command "input file" and "output file"?09:23
Kyralmefisto__: yup09:23
stdinxenophile7x7: /dev/zero just outputs a load of "0" /dev/random makes random characters09:24
Kyral/dev/random (and /dev/urandom) produce random ****09:24
stdinI-04: great, where there is a will (and a linux app) there is a way :P09:24
__mikemxenophile7x7 whats the difference between the number 0 and a random number09:24
Kyral__mikem: not a random NUMBER09:24
Kyrala random peice of ANYTHING09:24
BluesKajdd ? for iso ..what's dd?09:24
Kyraldd == disk dump or something09:24
xenophile7x7either one would suffice then09:24
I-04stdin: yesir, thanks for the help!09:24
xenophile7x7just wanted to clarify, ty09:25
stdinI-04: no problem, glad it works :)09:25
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mefisto__does anyone know anything about the moto4lin program?09:25
Kyraland before someone asks, /dev/random waits for enough entropy in the system before giving random data, while /dev/urandom gives pseudorandom data instantly09:25
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KyralDontcha love Linux :D09:27
xenophile7x7a little bit more every time i use it09:27
xenophile7x7now if i could just choose a distro....09:27
stdinjust make your own :P09:27
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Kyral*Duck and COVER!*09:27
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KyralPersonlly I like ArchLinux right now09:28
xenophile7x7haha, dont quite know enough to do that yet09:28
Kyralthough I run Debian on my server (coupled with Xen)09:28
xenophile7x7the *buntu's seem simple enough for now, until i get a bit mroe comfortable with it09:28
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xenophile7x7then i need to figure out what to run for a server/client09:28
stdintry Linux From Scratch, if you're up for a challenge like no other :)09:28
andreiSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS09:28
andreiliniste09:29
KyralSlackware -> Gentoo -> Ubuntu -> Fedora -> SuSE -> ArchLinux09:29
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KyralI have tried LFS like 5 times09:29
KyralFailed each time to an unsolvable compiler error09:29
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KyralI have played with FreeBSD and the HURD09:30
firecrotchI have ProFTPd running, how do I create a user that has access to only a specific directory?09:30
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Kyralfirecrotch: Well, first I'd make an FTP user09:30
Kyraland then set the ProFTPd "homedir" to the FTP user's homedir :D09:30
dopeis it a bad idea to install the nvidia display drivers from the recover console?09:30
Kyraldope: Nope...09:30
firecrotchKyral, how do I create an FTP user? I'm completely new to setting up FTP09:31
Kyral(The "Recover Console" is mearly Single User Mode09:31
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Kyralfirecrotch: How do you make any other user?09:31
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dopeok, when i tried to do it last time it said i was at level 1 and i should use level 309:31
torsten_hy,kann mir jemand erklren wie ich kmail  die zusammenarbeit mit kwallet unterbinde?09:31
Rob-Westwhats a good linux partition tool09:31
KyralRob-West: GUI or console?09:31
Rob-WestGYU09:31
Rob-WestGUI*09:31
stdinRob-West: GParted09:31
KyralRob-West: GParted/QtParted09:31
firecrotchuseradd ... but how do I set up the user to a) only be able to use ftp and b) actually be allowed to use FTP09:31
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Kyralfirecrotch: Do you mean the user people will login as via FTP?09:32
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firecrotchYes09:32
dopeyea, it says i'm at runlevel 1 and that it's recommended to use runlevel 309:32
Kyralfirecrotch: Hell if I know I have never setup FTP :D09:32
KyralSFTP FTW09:32
Kyraldope: Hmm, then reboot to normal mode, kill KDM, login and do it from the console :D09:33
dopei can't09:33
Rob-Westthanks09:33
dopewhen i kill KDM my screen is just black09:33
firecrotchIf it's any help to anyone, I also have webmin installed :\09:33
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Kyraldope: CTRL+ALT+F1 first :D09:33
fxrhey.. what package do i find this in "terminal management library for readline"09:33
dopetried it09:33
dopestill nothing09:33
dopei've been having a problem with the xserver just resetting09:34
dopei think that's what's happening09:34
BluesKajwhat is nicotine , exactly ...a file sharing or chat or both?09:34
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dopei'll just have it sitting there looking at the desktop and then screen goes black and the nvidia logo appears and back to the login screen09:34
firecrotch!nicotine09:34
ubotunicotine: graphical client for the SoulSeek peer-to-peer system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4.1-1 (edgy), package size 373 kB, installed size 1956 kB09:34
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BluesKajfirecrotch, already did that but doesn't really tell me much , but thanks anyway :)09:35
ValmarkoMy graphics card is ati radeon. Xorg,con has 'ati' instead of 'radeon' . Should I change the driver to radeon ?09:35
firecrotchBluedKaj, well it seems to me that it's just file sharing09:36
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BluesKajright09:36
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KyralValmarko: If you have the radeon drivers installed09:36
dopeValmarko, if it ain't broke don't fix it09:36
Rob-Westi cant repartition in linux09:36
ryyHi, I am linux n00b. I was wondering if someone could help me with an internet connection question.09:36
Valmarkoright. tnks09:36
BluesKajValmarko, http://www.marteydodoo.com/2006/08/29/installing-binary-ati-drivers-on-ubuntu-edgy/09:36
firecrotchryy, what's your question?09:36
stdinRob-West: not if you are using the disk, no09:37
ryyHi,09:37
ryyI have a regular DSL connection.  I always try to turn on the router before turning on the computer.  Because if I boot to the desktop before turning on either the router or modem I have to reboot the computer.  Is there a way for me to establish Internet connection after I boot the computer?09:37
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stdin!gparted | Rob-West09:37
ubotuRob-West: gparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php09:37
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stdinRob-West: use the live cd, or the K/Ubuntu Live CD09:37
Rob-Westi got it09:37
Valmarkothe driver came with kubuntu. I guess its open source09:37
Rob-Westim running Ubuntu hard drive install09:37
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BluesKajryy, just leave your router on at all times09:38
firecrotchryy, what about just leaving the router on all the time?09:38
Rob-Westbut i wanna install a second linux distro09:38
kimmernwhat do i type to exit x-server?09:38
firecrotchBluesKaj, GMTA :)09:38
KyralRob-West: You can't repartition a mounted drive09:38
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Rob-Westdamn it09:38
KyralHence LiveCD :D09:38
dopeRob-West, use the gparted live cd09:38
ryyIt really isn't my home so I don't wanna do that.  Everyone else uses Windows and they don't have this problem.09:39
dopeRob-West: google around for it. it worked for me09:39
Rob-Westi already have a Ubuntu live CD09:39
BluesKajdunno why ppl turn their routers off, since the maker usually tries to update firmware when it sees the pc disconnected09:39
stdinryy: yes, in System Settings -> Netword Settings, just disable it, then enable it, that's all you need to do09:39
KyralWhich had GParted off :D09:39
dopeRob-West: get the gparted one09:39
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dopeworked like a charm for me09:39
ryyThanks a lot.09:39
kimmerni'm installing new video drivers, and need to exit x-server first..si how?09:40
Kyralkimmern: CTRL+ALT+F109:40
Kyrallogin then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop09:40
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kimmernthanks kyral!09:40
bomberctrl alt bacspce works too09:40
Kyralbomber: That just RESTARTS it09:40
Kyralkimmern: to restart it use sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start09:41
bomberon my system it exits09:41
tackatDid anyone here came across:09:41
tackat*** YOU'RE USING autoheader (GNU Autoconf) 2.61.09:41
tackat*** KDE requires autoconf 2.53 or newer09:41
KyralThe AutoConfs...grr09:41
tackatwhile trying to build recent KDE ...09:41
Kyraland I shall be back...hopefully09:41
tackatKyral: yepp great that KDE switched to cmake recently09:42
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stdintackat: and now use "automaken" too09:43
tackatstdin: ????09:43
Toxcan set up printer on kubuntu i tried everything, it recognize it but not printing ?09:44
sinbad33wolfwalker, how does FF do the job better exactly ??09:44
stdintackat: if you grab the svn, it says to use "automaken" not automake09:44
Toxit shows print job ..09:44
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tackatstdin: there's no such package there !?!09:45
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stdintackat: there is, I think it's only on feisty tho09:47
tackatstdin: ah09:47
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Tox!printer09:48
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows09:48
stdintackat: /ms is a dumb-bell, it's not atuomaken09:48
stdintackat: it's called "unsermake"09:48
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stdintackat: automaken is automake, unsermake like it, but slightly strange :P09:50
firecrotchOkay, I need help setting up an FTP-only user09:51
firecrotchI'm using proftp and webmin09:51
Tox cant set up printer on kubuntu i tried everything, it recognize it but not printing ?09:52
Toxhelp plz09:52
tackatstdin: I have unsermake, but it doesn't change that --- the issue is about autotools, not automake09:52
stdintackat: yeah, I got confused between he two09:53
Toxits HP Lazerjet 102009:53
tobi__!mp309:53
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:53
boblenyHey, how do I move a file from one place to another in the konsol thingy?09:54
boblenyOr, better yet, is there a way to become sudo in the GUI for a time?09:55
stdinbobleny: kdesu konqueror09:55
firecrotchYou can do sudo konqueror09:55
stdinNOT sudo konqueror09:55
firecrotchstdin: What's the difference?09:55
stdin!kdesu09:55
ubotuIn KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo09:55
stdinfirecrotch: that answer you? :P09:56
firecrotchGotcha, I'll have to get out of that habit then09:56
boblenyOk09:56
stdinfirecrotch: you can get some really hard to fix errors with sudo and GUI apps, sudo is only for cli apps :)09:57
firecrotchI wish there was some way to add a right-click menu option to "open as root" or something like that09:57
tobi__!lame09:57
ubotulame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB09:57
stdinfirecrotch: there is09:57
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firecrotchstdin: it doesn't seem to be there by default09:57
stdinfirecrotch: there is, right click -> Actions -> Edit as root (for text files anyway)09:58
firecrotchstdin: but what about for applications like Konqueror?09:58
stdinfirecrotch: as for run as root, now that's a but dangerous :P09:58
stdinfirecrotch: but you can make a desktop link to application, and use "kdesu konqueror" as the command09:59
xenophile7x7lol, umm...last n00b question for the day ;)  from the cli, how can i see the partitions on my hard drives?09:59
firecrotchstdin: I guess that would work09:59
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firecrotchNow, I just need some help setting up an FTP only user...10:00
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stdinfirecrotch: the reason there isn't a "run as root" option, is because one wrong click, and someone can mess there system up bad10:00
stdinxenophile7x7: sudo fdisk -l10:00
boblenyTy10:00
boblenyThat worked10:00
xenophile7x7tuy10:00
xenophile7x7*ty10:00
stdinxenophile7x7: -l is L10:00
firecrotchstdin: good point10:00
WabletI'm wondering, is it possible to have a ATI and nVidia card in the same computer and tell a dual boot linux to go off one and windows to go off the other?10:00
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firecrotchWablet, you would just have to configure the card as the only video in each operating system.  IIRC, there is a way in windows to set it to not use a specific card ever10:01
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Wabletfirecrotch: Alright, because right now I only have an ati card and as much as I don't want to buy a new motherboard to support 2 cards, I think I need to since if I update my ATi drivers on Kubuntu (Not ubuntu) it locks me out of my desktop10:02
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Wabletfirecrotch: unless someone can help me to get my ati card to not lock out10:02
kimmerni'm installing nvidia drivers, but have to kill x..anyone?10:03
firecrotchWablet: yeah, that would be a lot better than buying another vid card and new mobo10:03
firecrotchWablet: I know nothing of ATI cards, since I have an integrated video card (laptop)10:04
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Wabletfirecrotch: And just maybe I could live on opensource drivers, aslong as I'm able to up my resolution.  Since I'll be doing gaming on my windows boot.10:04
stdinkimmern: didn't you ask that a few mins ago?10:04
kimmernstdin: yes, i got an answer but it didnt work..10:04
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Wablet!ati10:05
stdinkimmern: which part didn't work?10:05
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:05
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stdinkimmern: and why not use the driver from ubuntu ?10:05
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WabletI'm having a small issue.  I can't even launch Kubuntu on my card.  I need to modify my xorg to enable vesa drivers for it to even work.10:06
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firecrotchFor FTP users, do I have to have a group called 'ftp' or something, then add the user to that group?10:07
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boblenyIs there a way to make windows semi transparent or something like that?10:08
kimmernlots of folks here..someone gotta know how to exit x-server?10:09
stdinkimmern: which part didn't work?10:09
firecrotch!beryl | bobleny10:09
ubotubobleny: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl10:09
stdinkimmern: and why not use the driver from ubuntu ?10:09
stdinfirecrotch: maybe this will help http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7958810:09
xenophile7x7i just got the strangest feelin of deja vu ;)10:10
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firecrotchstdin: thanks10:11
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xenophile7x7does anyone know an undernet server offhand?10:14
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BluesKajnewyork.ny.us.undernet.org10:16
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xenophile7x7thx10:16
BluesKajnp10:16
stdinheh, google rocks :P10:16
firecrotchOkay, I used Webmin to create the user for FTP (I think I got all the settings right), but my FTP user gets a "wrong password" error10:16
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K`zananyone here using avr-gcc ?10:16
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acemo"deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com edgy" doesnt needs a gpg key right?10:18
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Toxcant setup printer somebody yelp!10:19
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firecrotchacemo: there's a key provided, but the key did not work for me10:19
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nagyvhello! is there a way to switch off the computer automatically after a given time? (I like to fell asleep on music, but would like to switch off the computer.) I use amarok to listen to music.10:19
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acemoi coulnt find the key on hqwine.com10:19
stdinacemo: don't think they have one, so no10:19
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acemoand im getting this error:10:19
acemohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1155/10:19
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firecrotchacemo: I don't remember where I saw the key, but you don't need it anyways10:20
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sorush20how do I type latin letters?10:20
just-this-timeamarok wont play from smb:// any ideas ?10:20
sorush20A10:20
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acemoim not using a key, but when i run apt-get upgrade im getting a nice error =(10:20
acemosaying it cant find the gpg key10:20
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stdinnagyv: you can make a cron job to run a a certain time every day to shutdown10:20
firebird619I am going to be installing Ubuntu. What partitions are recommended aside from the default ones Ubuntu creates? I have 120 GB HDD and 256 MB for RAM.10:20
stdinacemo: ignore it, and contine10:21
c4rlOo man..10:21
c4rlOso many question in here..10:21
acemostdin, it anoys me =( i wanna get rid of the error10:21
firecrotchnagyv: you could also use a shell script that you start when you're ready to go to bed that would shut it down in say, 30 minutes10:21
stdinfirebird619: a separate /home partition is always a good idea10:21
nagyvstdin: it is quiet occasional, and even the time changes day-by-day, and I also don't know what a cronjob is :)10:21
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nagyvfirecrotch: could you point me to page where I can read about this?10:22
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stdinnagyv: you can use the "at" command, look at "man at" in konsole10:22
firebird619stdin: Ok, any other recommendations? I see online on sites to have, for example, separate /var, /tmp partitions and so forth, is that necessary or a good idea?10:23
firecrotchstdin: I would use the "sleep" command, which will wait a certain amount of time before executing the command10:23
emprevet51hello10:23
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stdinnagyv: i think that was to you, not me ^^^^10:23
nagyvstdin: I have found it, thx10:24
tobi__is there any adept package for a lame encoder ?10:24
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firecrotchstdin: to both, actually :)10:24
stdinfirebird619: you don't need all those, you aren't going to be running a massive server are you?10:24
stdin!lame10:25
ubotulame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB10:25
firebird619stdin: No, it is just for typical home use, Internet, Music, etc.10:25
stdintobi__: yes, it's in multiverse10:25
tobi__thanks10:25
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firecrotchfirebird619: Then you should be just fine with just putting /home on a separate parition10:25
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stdinfirebird619: then all you need is '/' , swap and '/home'10:25
BTRHi, im having problems with wine, is there a support channel for it?10:26
mehmetnere la bura ?10:26
stdinBTR: #winehq10:26
mehmetyeah10:26
c4rlOhi,i have a question.it's about irc konversation application..Why affter i detached my bnc and want to reattach it back, the channel that i detached before not shown?Just the nick only appear in status but not the channel..10:26
firebird619Ok, Thanks. What is the best size to use for  the '/' partition. I have a 120 GB drive.10:26
stdin!tr10:26
ubotuTurk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.10:26
casev01someone knows how to configure apt-build?10:27
acemofirebird619: / is ur root, a bit the same as c: in windows10:27
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stdinc4rlO: ask in #konversation10:27
c4rlOok thanks stdin10:27
Dasnipa`acemo, not really10:27
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nagyvthx for your help, I am going to sleep now :)10:28
Dasnipa`acemo, as most programs arent installed in /, just symlinked in /usr/local/bin10:29
stdinDasnipa`: most apps in kubuntu are in /usr/bin not /usr/local/bin10:29
firebird619What is recommended for the size of the  '/' partition on a 120 GB HDD? I have read that swap should be around 1.5 times the amount of RAM, and /home should be whatever free space is left over, but what is recommended for the '/' partition.10:29
acemodasnipa` isnt /usr a sub folder of / ?10:30
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just-this-timehey join me for full edgy torrent http://cargol.net/~ramon/ubuntu-dvd-en10:30
Dasnipa`acemo, but they are symlinked there. not installed there. symlink = a few bytes10:30
chavofirebird619, 10 gigs is plenty for /, you can get by with less but that gives you room for installing a lot of stuff just in case10:30
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acemoohh okey10:31
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firebird619chavo: Ok, Thank YOu10:31
stdinjust-this-time: advertise in #kubuntu-offtopic not in here please10:31
Dasnipa`firebird619, no longer is it true that 1.5 tiems ram should be swap now that ram is in excess of 1 gig... 1 gig swap should be more than enough for anyone10:31
chavoI am using 3.8 gigs in my /, but I have KDE and Gnome installed10:31
chavoyeah 1 gig of swap is good10:31
just-this-timestdin hi10:31
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firebird619Dasnipa: In the machine I am installing on there is only 256 MB of RAM. Would I still allocate 1 GB swap?10:32
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to0omhey guys, a question: is anyone of you abel to install the libqt4-dev package in the actual kubuntu release?10:32
to0omhere i always have some dependency problems with libglu1-xorg-dev10:33
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chavoto0om, do you have any 3rd party repos enabled?10:34
to0omchavo: no, i don't10:34
to0omshould i?10:34
chavono10:34
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to0omchavo: does it work on your installation?10:35
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chavoto0om, yeah works here10:35
chavorunning edgy10:36
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stdin!info libglu1-xorg-dev10:36
ubotulibglu1-xorg-dev: transitional package for Debian etch. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 44 kB10:36
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parsekI have a wd 120gb hard disk in my laptop and it clicks every 20sec or so when in idle, when I do hdparm -B 255 (turns automatic powermanagment off) the clicking stops, so how could I make it to do that command everytime I boot????10:38
to0omchavo: i also have edgy10:38
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to0omchavo: could you paste your sources.list somewhere?10:39
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voicuhi, there is something wrong with kaffeine. it doesn't start at all on my user but works good on other ones10:40
stdinparsek: look in /etc/hdparm.conf10:41
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externwhy does kubuntu splash screen get distorted, when shutting down? It doesn't get distorted if I immediately shutdown my computer just after it finished booting up10:41
parsekyes but what do i have to put there dor it to work10:41
parsekfor10:41
voicuthere is no output when starting it from konsole. i also deleted any user-configuration files related to kaffeine (to get the default ones).10:41
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voicumaybe xine is the problem?10:42
trunkCan anyone help me with my updating problem10:42
stdinparsek: man hdparm.conf10:43
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just-this-timeamarok does not want to play from smb://in konqueror10:45
VigoGreetings10:45
just-this-timeshoul I mount SMB before10:45
voicujust-this-time: do you have to connect with a user+pass or anonymously?10:46
Raven301Ok Ubuntu has a sources.list generator Where would I find one for Kubuntu??10:46
voicuit's the same one...10:47
stdinRaven301: the sources are the same for both10:47
parseksame10:47
voicukubuntu is a part of ubuntu10:47
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Raven301stdin: ok thanks10:47
parsekwhat do you BTW use?10:48
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stdinwho?10:50
parsekanyone10:50
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parsekwhat do you use stdin?10:50
parsekI mean a sources generator10:51
stdinparsek: I use my fingers :P10:51
parsek:)10:51
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stdinI don't need no stinkin source genorator :)10:51
parsekheh10:52
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boblenywhat is a source generator?10:52
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stdinit genorates a sources.list file10:52
boblenyOh, no idea what thats for...10:53
stdin*(for lazy prople)10:53
parsek:)10:53
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Raven301stdin: How you calling lazy .... lol10:53
trunkhi can some one help me I'm having real problems with my newly installed kubuntu10:53
voicuok... anyone has any idea why kaffeine starts with errors and doesn't display any windows?10:53
stdinRaven301: how? well I just type it :P10:54
boblenystdin is an expert!10:54
Raven301s/how/who10:54
stdinheh :)10:54
Balsamic_Chickenhmm, i can't get my webcam to work on kubuntu, would it be possible for me to install msn and my webcam using wine 0.9.29?10:54
voicui can see it in the process list but nothing happens10:54
voicuon other users it works10:54
Raven301stdin: Is there a sources.list for feisty ?10:55
stdinvoicu: try deleting ~/.kde/share/config/kaffeinerc and try agin10:55
trunkhelp please I can't get any updates or downloads10:55
voicustdin: i did that10:55
stdinRaven301: there better be, or I wouldn't have a sources.list10:55
voicuand restarted the session10:56
stdintrunk: what do you mean?10:56
voicustill it doesn't work10:56
Raven301stdin: any good place to get one?10:56
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voicuthe thing is... when i start a kde program from konsole i get some qt+X warnings. when i start kaffeine there are none. as if it doesn't link to the X server at all10:56
stdinRaven301: s/edgy/feisty/ on your sources.list10:57
Raven301stdin: ok ... thanks10:57
trunkI've just installed kubuntu AND WHEN i SEND IT IT FIND UPDATES IT JUST GOES ON OFR EVER10:57
trunkopps sorry for the caps10:57
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dwidmannforever, or does it just feel like forever?10:58
stdintrunk: check that the sources aren't all disabled10:58
stdintrunk: and try changing to another mirror too10:58
trunkwell I've left it 2 hours earlyer and it had done 0% so...10:58
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matthiashi i just wanted to install iCenterX also known as UbuntuCenter but aptitude sais that "php5-gd" package is broken. what should i do?10:58
HymnToLife!php5-gd10:59
ubotuphp5-gd: GD module for php5. In component main, is optional. Version 5.1.6-1ubuntu2.1 (edgy), package size 33 kB, installed size 152 kB10:59
trunkwell I think it's just going to compleatly the wrong place10:59
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trunkI am a compleat newbie but I@ve spent all day on this10:59
HymnToLifeit seems to be there, are you using Dapper or EDgy ?10:59
Balsamic_Chickenis it possible to install webcam by wine?10:59
stdintrunk: change to another mirror10:59
voicunevermind, it works... i don't know how but yey :D10:59
dwidmannmatthias, maybe "sudo apt-get -f install", or to remove and reinstall it?10:59
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trunkthanks I will try11:00
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dwidmannBalsamic_Chicken: I doubt it11:00
matthiasdwidmann: thx i'll try11:00
stdinBalsamic_Chicken: ask in #winehq11:00
trunkalthough the one thing is I'm thinking it might be IPV6 related because I have a router thats not IPV6 comp11:01
aakarshdoes kubuntu come iwth vnc server11:01
egohi at all!!11:01
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eddy__how can i install skype on kubuntu?11:01
aakarshit doest seem to find the command11:01
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stdintrunk: it still wouldn't take that long11:01
Balsamic_Chickenk thx11:01
dwidmanneddy__ they have a deb, just download it and install the deb with dpkg11:01
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trunkchears11:01
stdinaakarsh: krdc11:01
matthiasdwidmann: thx seems to be ok now11:02
aakarshk thanks11:02
stdinaakarsh: ahh, vnc server?11:02
stdinaakarsh: krbf for short term11:03
aakarshwell vncserver was what redhat seemed t ohave11:03
stdin!vnc11:03
ubotuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX11:03
aakarshok11:03
aakarshi wanted to try this freenx thing but it wont isntall11:03
stdin!FreeNX11:04
ubotuFreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX11:04
stdin!botsnack11:04
ubotuYum!11:04
stdin:)11:04
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aakarshyum is something to resolve package dependcies?11:04
aakarshi am new i dont know11:04
bobleny!good bot, have a snack11:04
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stdinaakarsh: not on Kubuntu, no, we use apt here :)11:05
aakarshok but apt  doesnt seem to do the auto dependency download11:05
parsekI have a weird problem with videos, in vlc or any other player the colours are all wrong, yellow is too yellow etc. thats with Xvideo output, when I use X11 colours are right but it doesnt look/perform otherwise well, what should I do????11:05
aakarshjust fails at not found dependency11:06
stdinaakarsh: then you haven't used it, because it dose11:06
aakarshhmm11:06
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aakarshok let me take a  look again11:06
stdin!apt11:06
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)11:06
boblenyHey, can some explain exactlly waht beryl is? I went to the beryl-project.org, but I cant find out what it is.....11:07
parsek!beryl11:07
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl11:07
dwidmannbobleny: a window manager11:07
stdinbobleny: it's a themeable window manager, that uses 3D effects11:08
frojndhow do I made firefox primary explorer, so when I'll click on the link in konversation firexox will start instead konqueror11:08
boblenySo, it is for eye candy?11:08
dwidmannmostly11:08
boblenyk11:08
stdinfrojnd: System Settings -> Default Applications11:08
Parkotronfrojnd: System Settings > Default Applications11:08
ParkotronJinx11:09
stdinhah, beet ya :)11:09
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boblenyHow do I make Dolphin my default file manager?11:11
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boblenyWas that a yes?11:13
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stdinbobleny: in Konqueror, Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Association  -> inode -> derectory11:13
stdin*directory11:13
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|WAL|anyone know where to get a newer version of HPLIP (>= 0.9.9) in a dapper repository?11:15
boblenyWha!? I went to file association, but  I don't understand what to do...11:15
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stdinbobleny: you see the list ?11:16
boblenyyup11:16
stdin|WAL|: you could try enabling the backports repository, or upgrade to edgy11:17
stdinbobleny: you see one called "inode" ?11:17
boblenyno...11:17
|WAL|stdin: backports?11:17
stdin!backports11:17
ubotuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports11:17
boblenyNope, sorry, I'm blind. I found it....11:17
stdinbobleny: expand it, and you'll get another list, in there click "directory"11:18
boblenyok11:18
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stdinbobleny: is Dolphin in there?11:19
stdinbobleny: on the right ?11:19
boblenyyeah, its the top one11:19
stdinbobleny: then it should be default11:20
boblenyOk, but when it is the top one, I cant open my trash bin?11:20
stdinbobleny: you can add an applet to the panel for it11:21
stdinif it isn't already there11:21
stdinny the clock11:21
stdin*by11:21
boblenyYes, the trash bin in next to the clock11:22
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RawSewageis it ok to be DMZ host. or is that risky11:22
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stdinnot a clue RawSewage11:23
RawSewageok11:24
boblenyHow do I add an applet to the panel for it?11:24
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jkgruetKAudioCreator is acting up when ripping a CD to mp3.  Anyone use this on a regular basis?  (Kubuntu/Edgy)11:24
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stdinbobleny: right click the panel,  click "add applet to panel", choose the applet, click add11:25
bobleny"Maleformed URL trash:/" that is there error I get when I try to open my trash bin, while dolphin is my default file manager.11:25
fxrwhats this:? kded_kpasswdserver11:25
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stdinbobleny: just make a link on the desktop, link to application, and use "konqueror trash:/" as the command11:26
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stdinfxr: what from?11:27
fxrits an error from amarok...11:27
boblenyWill that make the trash bin open in konqueror?11:28
stdinfxr: is that all it says?11:28
stdinbobleny: it need to open in konqueror, it's a KDE trash bin11:28
stdinbobleny: it's not readable by other apps11:28
boblenyHow come?11:28
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stdinbobleny: because it's a security mesure11:29
boblenyThey want to secure the trash bin?11:29
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stdinbobleny: yes, why wouldn't they?11:29
dwidmann/home/.local/share/Trash = trash:/11:29
fxrm running from the command line and trying to connect to a stream.. it was working fine, but i nstalled amarok by *accident* now can connect to stream.. m scared in case i remoced a dependent package.. the full errors are:11:29
fxrkio_http_debug: WARNING: (4971) Can't communicate with kded_kcookiejar!11:30
fxrkio (kioslave): WARNING: Can't communicate with kded_kpasswdserver!11:30
fxrkio_http_debug: WARNING: (4971) Can't communicate with kded_kcookiejar!11:30
fxrkio (kioslave): WARNING: Can't communicate with kded_kpasswdserver!11:30
fxrkio_http_debug: WARNING: (4971) Can't communicate with kded_kcookiejar!11:30
fxrkio (kioslave): WARNING: Can't communicate with kded_kpasswdserv11:30
fxr*uninstalled amarok11:30
stdinfxr: no clue, ask in #kde11:30
fxrk thanks..11:30
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dwidmann**/home/user/.local/share/Trash11:30
boblenyBecause it is trash. One mans trash is another mans treasuer11:30
stdindwidmann: but it's not readable by other apps, in the way that konqi reads it, with the meta data11:31
heinkel_111anoyone know how to disbale KPerzonaliser, or at least how to make it *not* appear every time i log in as a certain user?11:31
dwidmannProbably not, but that's the place you'd want it to go if trash:/ failed11:31
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dwidmannheinkel_111, let me check something, it's an easy fix if I remember right11:37
heinkel_111dwidmann: you are authorized to check something :)11:37
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dwidmann~/.kde/share/config/kpersonalizerrc, set FirstLogin=false in the general section. I think that's the fix.11:38
heinkel_111dwidmann: thanks for the hint!11:38
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dwidmannyou're welcome11:39
boblenyIs there a way to force the trashbin in the task bar to open in konqoror?11:39
dwidmannYes11:39
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dwidmannwell, then again, it will require you to change the trash in the taskbar11:39
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boblenymeaning?11:40
dwidmannmake the trash thing in the taskbar a regular application launcher ...11:40
dwidmannless functional, I know, but it'll do the trick11:40
boblenyI'm cornfused!11:40
dwidmannand the application to launch would be .... "konqueror trash:/"11:40
heinkel_111dwidmann: mine already says Firstlogin = false :S11:41
dwidmannbobleny: right click on the desktop, create new application launcher11:41
heinkel_111got to be wrong somewhere else i guess11:41
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dwidmannheinkel_111, on the user in question as well:? Hmm, that must not be it then, I'll check around then, I've fixed the problem before ... I thought it was that, must not have been though eh?11:41
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heinkel_111could it be something in startup ?11:42
heinkel_111i restored most config resource files from another user, because something was causing this user to start up on one screen only (i have dual screen)'11:43
heinkel_111but i left out startup resources etc11:43
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boblenyOk, I got it. But still, I can configuer the original trash bin icon in the taskbar to open up in koqoror?11:44
s_Hello. Is here enzone, who runs the KDE with installed Firehol and Knights? I need help with setting of firewall. Thanks.11:45
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dwidmannbobleny, I don't think the one in the tray is configurable, it's the trash applet.11:45
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dwidmannbobleny: you could put that launcher on the taskbar, just drag it down there if you want to11:45
boblenythen can I congifuer the trash applet?11:46
dwidmannNay, I don't think the trash applet is configurable at all.11:46
boblenyWell, something has to tell the trash apllet to work.11:47
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dwidmannheinkel_111: the fix is listed here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/5620611:49
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parsekis there any way to get direct rendering to work in ati rage mobility P/M11:50
matthewAnyone have experience w/ dancer-ircd? I've got one set up, but I can't figure out how to add channels...11:50
Seijurounless you're running services to keep the channel open I believe you just join the channel matthew11:52
jkgruetmatthew: have you checked out http://www.contactor.se/~dast/dancer/doc/dancerdoc.html  ??11:54
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matthewthanks a lot, I'm gonna check that link out now!11:54
matthewoh wait! dancer is a bot service...*smacks head* I'm looking for an irc server!11:55
dwidmannparsek, the crickets chirp at your question, I presume you're not going to find your answer here11:56
casev01someone using apt-build?11:56
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jkgruetmatthew: I'm a little ignorant on those, so can't help much more.11:56
matthewnp, thanks anyway!11:56
jkgruetMy own problems currently include getting KAudioCreator to work:  apparently there's a genre problem on the look-up.11:57
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boblenyI went to dolphin, typed "trash:/", I then deleted on my desktop. Guess where the file went to!? I'm confused, if "trash:/" can be opend in dolphin, they why can't "trash:/" open in dolphin???????11:57
bobleny!trash11:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about trash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:58
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jkgruetI don't know if this is a kubuntu-specific problem, or a kaudiocreator problem; so far, 'net searches haven't been too helpful.12:00
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N6REJI'm getting confused... i'm trying to setup an intranet server with access to apache and quasar from outside, but something has gotten hosed or confused.  I originally used the computer name "ubuntu" ( the default ) and sometimes apache would flake and take me to ubuntu.com instead of my own server.  So my friend said to change the IP to static and change the name, did that but now apache...12:11
N6REJ...says it can't resolve FQDN.12:11
N6REJcan anyone help please?12:12
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