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jendaWhere is our next UWN?02:26
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jendatheCore: hey03:35
jendawas there a quiz on friday03:35
jenda?03:35
theCorejenda: I don't think so03:38
jendaoh well, good, then :)03:38
juliuxjenda, ping03:52
jendajuliux: pong03:52
juliuxjenda, i have a question about the stickers03:53
juliuxdo you have the ok for the stickers from jane?03:53
jendaI believe so03:53
jendaActually, no.03:53
jendaThe logo is unchanged, so there is no need for it.03:53
juliuxbetter you ask her03:53
juliuxthe trademarks kubuntu, ubuntu etc are registerd in germany03:53
jendaActually, it's Marilize that does this stuff, and I've spoken to her about the stuff.03:54
jendaheh, too much stuff in that sentence :)03:54
juliuxso you have an ok from canonical;)03:55
jendaI'll scour my inbox and PM you the particulars, if you wish.03:55
jendapep03:55
jenda*yep03:55
juliuxif you say yes everything is fine for me;)03:55
jendaah, found it.03:57
jendaThere's just one remark - it has to state that it's a trademark.03:57
juliuxgood03:57
jendaI suppose it's worth asking them about that, in case of stickers, because they are tiny.03:57
juliuxanother ting is that the kubuntu logo on the picture is  outdated03:58
jendajuliux: I'll be making these all over again, so if you could link me to an up-to-date svg logo, that would be great.04:00
juliuxjenda, i think it is all in the wiki;)04:00
jendaokeydokey, I'll try to find time for that this week.04:01
juliuxor ask the kubuntu people04:01
jendajuliux: you sure you aren't interested in Xubuntu stickers, btw? :)04:02
juliuxjenda, perhaps 100-20004:02
jendaWould give me a good enough excuse to print some, you know :)04:02
jendaah, cool.04:02
jendathat's probably good enough.04:02
juliuxjenda, if i have a final price i can say you a number;)04:02
juliuxtea time04:02
jendaok04:03
jendaI'm still waiting for the printer.04:03
jendaBTW, once I have a final number, I can give an exact price ;)04:04
jendaBut that doesn't really matter - the printer gives one estimate price, and then the final one is never higher, and usually just a bit lower.04:04
jenda!ubuntulog | juliux04:36
ubotujuliux: ubuntulog is a logging bot run on various Ubuntu channels. You can read the logs at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/04:36
juliuxjenda, thxs 04:37
juliux;)04:37
jenda04:37
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beunohellos08:04
beunohey jenda, I'd like some xubuntu stickers too08:05
beunomany ppl in my LoCo are looking for them08:06
tsmithejenda is working08:08
tsmithedunno when he'll be back08:09
tsmithesoon probably, knowing him08:09
beunoaaah, ok ok, thanks tsmithe08:12
tsmithe:)08:12
jendatsmithe: correct :)08:19
tsmitheawh08:19
tsmithe:)08:19
jendaI just came, though, I really turned it off :)08:19
=== tsmithe oh sure
tsmithehmm08:20
tsmithedidn't mean a /me there08:20
jendahehe :)08:21
beunohey jenda  ;D08:23
jendabeuno: check, I'll let you know once available :)08:25
beunook ok, np08:26
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tonyyarussoOur gobby-for-dapper backport vanished.  See http://pkern.debian.net/09:02
beunotonyyarusso, yes, quite a while ago09:03
tonyyarussobeuno: Did another one surface somewhere?09:03
beunonot that I know of, I do know someone googled for it and found it09:04
beunomaybe we can setup another mirror09:04
tonyyarussoThat would be good09:04
juliuxtonyyarusso, did you know how much traffic is there per month?09:05
beunotonyyarusso: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gobby/gobby_0.4.1-1_i386.deb09:06
tonyyarussojuliux: Not a clue.09:06
juliuxtonyyarusso, ok09:06
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beunotonyyarusso: maybe we can add that same link09:06
tonyyarussobeuno: Is that backported or for etch?09:07
beunoI'm not sure, it's just a randome google search09:07
beunoI've got around 5k of bandwidth per month09:07
beunoso I can mirror it09:07
beunotonyyarusso: someone with dapper should try and install it09:08
tonyyarussobeuno: That can be arranged.09:09
beuno*that's 5k gb09:10
juliuxbeuno, nice09:11
beunomy company does hosting, so we have a couple of dedicated servers09:12
tonyyarussobeuno: "It opened the installer but got an error: Dependency is not satisfiable libatk 1.0-0"09:16
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beunonot good09:19
beunomaybe somene here still has it09:19
tonyyarussobeuno: sparklehistory has Dapper to test, but not the old package.09:20
beunook, well, we'll have to keep digging09:22
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poningruer hold on guys09:31
poningruhttp://darcs.0x539.de/trac/obby/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/LatestGobbyOnUbuntuBreezy09:33
beunothat's for breezy, does it work on dapper?09:34
beunotonyyarusso: can you get that tested?09:38
tonyyarussobeuno, poningru: That looks like still 0.3?09:39
tonyyarussoBreezy had 0.209:39
tonyyarussowe need .409:39
poningruah hmm09:40
poningrubackporting .4 to dapper09:40
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bapoumbaHello :)09:45
beunohey bapoumba09:47
jendaoi09:52
bapoumbahello beuno and jenda :)09:52
jendaHow's life in France?09:53
jendaerr... a va? ;)09:53
bapoumbaa va ;)09:53
bapoumbasunny Sunday ;)09:54
jendahmm...09:54
bapoumbawhat's about you ?09:54
jendait's dark out right now... but that reminds me I didn't look out the window all day ;)09:54
bapoumba^^09:54
jendame? not good.09:55
bapoumbait's dark here too09:55
tsmitheand here!09:55
jendaStudying for tomorrows exam.09:55
jendaStill.09:55
bapoumbaho ... Good luck ;)09:55
=== tsmithe is pretending to study for wednesday's
jendaAnd constantly looking for something else to do.09:55
jenda:)09:55
bapoumbaI wont say the m.. word in here, but thinking about it for you ;)09:55
tsmithem word?09:55
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bapoumbatsmithe, in french09:56
tsmitheahh09:56
=== jenda thinks in french, then ;)
bapoumbato say good luck, there is a bad word 09:56
jendaah :)09:56
jendaof course.09:56
bapoumba^^09:56
=== jenda consults the M! book when in need.
bapoumbaYou'll be okay jenda :)09:57
jendaI'll do my best ;)09:58
jendaWell, having no other choice after devoting all of this years time to anything but school :)09:58
bapoumbaI used to know that ;)09:58
=== tsmithe MUST do his english essay
tsmitheand his maths revision09:59
tsmitheand write to his german exchange partner09:59
=== bapoumba MUST go thru 100+ essays to grades them :/
tsmithethat's easy09:59
tsmitheget a random number generator10:00
jendabapoumba: French teacher? :)10:00
bapoumbaI've got a good ol' way to grade10:00
bapoumba(biology)10:00
tsmithedepending on the number, stick an A/B/C on it10:00
jendaoooh :)10:00
jendanice10:00
=== tsmithe likes biology
bapoumbatsmithe, go up a staircase, send all the essay to a nice fly10:01
jendaWas my fave subject before I chose... law over medicine :)10:01
bapoumbatop ones get top grades, bottom ones bad grades10:01
bapoumbaeasy ^^10:01
tsmithe:P10:01
tsmithefun too!10:01
jendabapoumba: you should also check for nice hand-drawn pictures in them, if any.10:01
jendathose should be moved up two stairs, IMO ;)10:02
bapoumbajenda, too much work /o\10:02
tsmithejenda, who'd do medicine? /me would look into genetics, or neuroscience if he decides on biology at uni... or is medicine required for both?10:02
bapoumbaI'd have to think10:02
tsmithe:P10:02
tsmithedo you know how to do the other thing i was going to ask but forgot?10:03
tsmithehmm/10:03
bapoumbawell depends on how the wind is blowing10:03
=== tsmithe tries to remember
tsmitheah!10:03
tsmithei remember now10:03
jendatsmithe: well, it's prolly a diff system ;) We just go to med school, and specialise on genetics or neuro later.10:04
tsmitheah k10:04
tsmithedo you know how some people got on the world challenge trip at school ( http://tibsplace.co.uk/venezuela ) ?10:04
jendatsmithe: funny how us computer geeks like the same sub-subjects in bio ;)10:04
tsmithe:)10:04
jendatsmithe: you're asking for something bad to happen to you ;)10:04
tsmitheno i'm not10:04
tsmithei want you to guess the answer10:04
tsmitheand i posted the link in case bapoumba didn't know what world challenge was10:05
jendatsmithe: _I_ am the certified spammer around here....10:05
jendahehe10:05
jendatsmithe: you mean you got the money needed?10:05
bapoumbatsmithe, looking at your link10:05
tsmitheno10:05
jendaaha10:05
tsmithejenda, how they got on to the trip10:05
jendabapoumba: caution, he'll start asking for money in a while ;)10:05
tsmithe(it was a competition)10:06
jenda...just before I start trying to sell some Ubuntu stickers ;)10:06
tsmithe:)10:06
jendatsmithe: no, no idea.10:06
tsmitheah ok10:06
tsmithewell10:06
bapoumbajenda, I see Cody got caught ;)10:06
tsmithehuh?10:06
tsmithesome people, well, they included... guess what? pictures!10:06
jendamhm10:06
tsmithein their essay10:07
tsmitheon why they should get in10:07
tsmitheone guy did it as two monkeys talking to each other!10:07
tsmitheso pictures are useful10:07
beunoand speaking of ubuntu stickers...10:08
beunojenda, I got a lot of users here requesting xubuntu stickers10:08
tsmithebeuno, you're gonna donate? thanks!10:08
beunoI always missread "donate" as "donut" for some reason10:09
tsmithe:D10:09
beunojust in case,10:09
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tsmitheand you're not allowed to weedle out of my question10:09
tsmithe!10:09
beunoand now that I think of it, there are no donuts in Argentina...10:09
beuno;D10:09
tsmithewhich i must ask, cos jenda made me10:10
jendabeuno: hmm, there will be some, I'm sure ;)10:10
beunowhat are you raising money for?10:10
jendatsmithe: aha :)10:10
tsmithebeuno, http://tibsplace.co.uk/venezuela10:10
beunojenda, great, add me to the list and I might buy them and distribute them here10:10
tsmitheaha indeed!10:10
jendabeuno: how many might you be interested in? I'm guessing the price at $0.20-$0.30 apiece.10:11
beunojenda, I'll get a pol setup, but I don't think much more then 50-10010:12
jendathat's good enough10:13
jendaactually, very good ;)10:13
beunopol == poll10:13
jendakk10:13
beunotsmithe, what's the pound/dollar exchange rate?10:14
tsmithe0.57 ?10:14
tsmithe$/10:14
tsmitheno10:14
tsmitheother way round10:14
tsmithe:P10:14
beunoand why does the text say 3500, and the fund raiser 4000?10:14
tsmithehuh?10:15
tsmithehmm10:15
tsmitheweird10:15
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beuno"This is all great, but to get there and to do this, each of us has to raise the necessary 3500."10:15
beuno"Target:400010:15
beunoRaised:65"10:15
tsmithefixed?10:15
beunoso, 10 dollars would be... 5 ?10:15
tsmitheyeah about10:15
beunoand 10 dollars is 30 pesos to me, which would be like eating twice and McDonalds, and not very much money for you10:16
beunobut what the hell, at least that'll round the number up10:17
=== tsmithe dislikes high interest rates and valuable currency
jendait's not the valuable currency that's the problem - it's the strong economy, tsmithe ;)10:17
jendaYou wouldn't be any better off in Japan, wanting a few hundred Yen.10:17
tsmithejenda, yeah i know10:18
tsmithe:)10:18
jenda:)10:18
tsmithebut a strong economy == good10:18
tsmitheso i didn't want to badmouth that10:18
jendaindeed :)10:18
jendaI actually like small currencies - when you have a large one, all you end up with is that you have to split it up to bits :)10:19
tsmithei prefer10:19
tsmithethat10:19
beunodone, I always get sucked in by these things10:19
jendaThe Czech crows has 100 halers, but we already cancelled 1, 2 and 5 haler pieces a long time ago, and 10 and 20 h pieces a few years ago...10:19
beunomy paypal account is 90% donations10:19
tsmithejenda, its neater10:19
jendatsmithe: which?10:20
beunoI ended up givint $10 to the free nvidia drivers project, and I don't even own an nvidia card...10:20
jendaanyway - now we're in the unpleasant situation of still needing 50 h pieces, but nothing else than that :)10:20
=== jenda donated $3 to stealthisfilm and some $11 to wikipedia.
tsmithebut none to me?10:21
jendayep :)10:21
tsmithejenda, with fractions10:21
tsmithebah10:21
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tsmitheyup10:21
tsmithegive people who you don't know money, but none to me... i see10:21
beunolol10:21
beunoit's there10:21
jendatsmithe: you don't qualify as a beneficial organisation :)10:21
beuno5 pounds10:21
jendawell, sort of, I guess...10:22
beunooh10:22
tsmithei do!10:22
jendahehe10:22
tsmithethanks muchly beuno!10:22
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tsmithedo you want an @tibsplace.co.uk address?10:23
beunolol, the akward hug was enough10:23
tsmitheok10:23
beunounless you want to redirect it to argentina@gmail.com10:23
beunoand I can use that one to show off10:23
tsmithei can do that10:23
tsmithei was only offering a redirect anyway ;)10:24
beunohehehe10:24
tsmithesomerville32, ping: do you want one?10:24
tsmitheso beuno, is that you want one?10:24
beunoyeah, why not10:24
tsmithename?10:25
beunomartin.albisetti@tibsplace.co.uk?10:25
beunonah10:25
beunotoo long10:25
tsmitheargentina? beuno?10:25
beunobeuno10:25
beunobeuno@10:25
tsmitheok10:26
tsmithedone10:27
tsmithe"Your settings are being processed and will be available in approximately 5 minutes."10:27
somerville32I donated $10 to tsmithe's fund10:28
somerville32lol10:28
jendasomerville32: we saw :)10:29
somerville32You did? lol10:29
jendabapoumba> jenda, I see Cody got caught ;)10:29
somerville32lol10:30
tsmithesomerville32, do you want an @tibsplace.co.uk address?10:30
beuno;)10:30
somerville32tsmithe, I don't really need one10:30
somerville32However, I hope to see lots of photos tsmithe10:30
somerville32And if I don't, I want a refund :P10:30
tsmitheof course you do10:30
bapoumba^^10:31
bapoumbaI got caught :D10:31
tsmithehuh?10:32
somerville32Welp, I need to take my dog for a walk10:32
=== tsmithe just got muted on #ubuntuforums for advertising the fund
bapoumbahave a good walk then10:32
tsmithebeuno, do you have a site you want me to link to from http://tibsplace.co.uk/blog/index.php/sponsors ?10:34
beunouhm...  http://www.uluga.com.ar/10:35
beuno(Argentina LoCo)10:35
tsmitheokey10:35
tsmithedone!10:37
tsmithethanks beuno10:37
beunonp10:37
tsmitheso jenda, you gonna donate for an email address?10:37
jendatsmithe: nope...10:37
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tsmitheawh10:38
beunosomerville32, what's up with UWN 28?10:53
somerville32beuno: The same thing thats up with every UWN10:53
somerville32:)10:53
beunoit's suppose to be out tomorrow, right?10:53
somerville32Yup10:54
somerville32Would you like me to dump the Feisty Changes now10:54
somerville32+?10:54
jendasomerville32: there was no quiz this week, could you please just mention that, and leave the 'next week' and 'week after next week' sections in tact?10:54
jendaI can't really do it now.10:54
beunoI've goto get the DIY website working, but once I'm done with that, I'd be glad to help10:54
somerville32Ok10:54
jendabeuno++10:54
beunoI've bene trying to add small bits to it10:54
jenda;)10:54
somerville32I'm going to walk my talk and then do some real life stuff10:54
somerville32tsmithe: Can you get started? Thanks.10:55
beunosomerville32, sure go ahead dump feisty changes10:55
=== tsmithe is away doing english essay
tsmithewhen it's done - i'll give feisty changes a look-see10:58
bapoumbasomerville32, tsmithe : feisty changes are quite difficult to translate ^^10:59
bapoumbais this possible to make it in a list or something ?10:59
beunook, one sections to go11:01
beunoand then the backend11:01
beunoand then I'll probably need jenda11:01
jendasomebody needs jenda?11:02
jendabeuno: when/what for?11:02
beuno"will need"11:02
beunoafter I get the last section and the backend programed11:02
beunoI'll need you to load some real content and see if it's what was expected11:03
beunoand, the "design it!" section is... blank11:03
beunohttp://diy.devubuntu.com/make.php is already working from the DB11:04
jendaindeed.11:04
jendaI'll have time for that in about 22 hours.11:05
jendaIs that OK?11:05
beunoand all I have left to program is http://diy.devubuntu.com/get.php11:05
beunowell, I didn't set the deadline, so it's not my call11:05
beuno;)11:05
jendahehe11:05
jendarigth.11:05
beunook, last section down11:43
beunobackend left11:43
jendastudy down, sleep left.11:44
jendamore study tomorrow, exam later.11:44
beunoaahw, you got the best part left11:44
jendaThe only good thing is that it's at 6 PM11:44
jendahehe :)11:44
jendafor today, yes.11:44
beunoit's 7:45pm here11:44
jendaquarter to midnight here11:45
bapoumbasame here ;)11:46
jendaof course :)11:46
jendafunny how europe sticks to the same timezone.11:46
jendaconvenient, too.11:46
beunoyes, very much11:46
bapoumbayep11:47
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tsmithe*earlier11:47
tsmithenot before! it's still the same time since the beginning of the universe...11:48
somerville32Stop chatting and work on UWN 28 :P11:50
beunolol11:51
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