[02:26] <jenda> Where is our next UWN?
[03:35] <jenda> theCore: hey
[03:35] <jenda> was there a quiz on friday
[03:35] <jenda> ?
[03:38] <theCore> jenda: I don't think so
[03:38] <jenda> oh well, good, then :)
[03:52] <juliux> jenda, ping
[03:52] <jenda> juliux: pong
[03:53] <juliux> jenda, i have a question about the stickers
[03:53] <juliux> do you have the ok for the stickers from jane?
[03:53] <jenda> I believe so
[03:53] <jenda> Actually, no.
[03:53] <jenda> The logo is unchanged, so there is no need for it.
[03:53] <juliux> better you ask her
[03:53] <juliux> the trademarks kubuntu, ubuntu etc are registerd in germany
[03:54] <jenda> Actually, it's Marilize that does this stuff, and I've spoken to her about the stuff.
[03:54] <jenda> heh, too much stuff in that sentence :)
[03:55] <juliux> so you have an ok from canonical;)
[03:55] <jenda> I'll scour my inbox and PM you the particulars, if you wish.
[03:55] <jenda> pep
[03:55] <jenda> *yep
[03:55] <juliux> if you say yes everything is fine for me;)
[03:57] <jenda> ah, found it.
[03:57] <jenda> There's just one remark - it has to state that it's a trademark.
[03:57] <juliux> good
[03:57] <jenda> I suppose it's worth asking them about that, in case of stickers, because they are tiny.
[03:58] <juliux> another ting is that the kubuntu logo on the picture is  outdated
[04:00] <jenda> juliux: I'll be making these all over again, so if you could link me to an up-to-date svg logo, that would be great.
[04:00] <juliux> jenda, i think it is all in the wiki;)
[04:01] <jenda> okeydokey, I'll try to find time for that this week.
[04:01] <juliux> or ask the kubuntu people
[04:02] <jenda> juliux: you sure you aren't interested in Xubuntu stickers, btw? :)
[04:02] <juliux> jenda, perhaps 100-200
[04:02] <jenda> Would give me a good enough excuse to print some, you know :)
[04:02] <jenda> ah, cool.
[04:02] <jenda> that's probably good enough.
[04:02] <juliux> jenda, if i have a final price i can say you a number;)
[04:02] <juliux> tea time
[04:03] <jenda> ok
[04:03] <jenda> I'm still waiting for the printer.
[04:04] <jenda> BTW, once I have a final number, I can give an exact price ;)
[04:04] <jenda> But that doesn't really matter - the printer gives one estimate price, and then the final one is never higher, and usually just a bit lower.
[04:36] <jenda> !ubuntulog | juliux
[04:36] <ubotu> juliux: ubuntulog is a logging bot run on various Ubuntu channels. You can read the logs at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
[04:37] <juliux> jenda, thxs 
[04:37] <juliux> ;)
[04:37] <jenda> 
[08:04] <beuno> hellos
[08:05] <beuno> hey jenda, I'd like some xubuntu stickers too
[08:06] <beuno> many ppl in my LoCo are looking for them
[08:08] <tsmithe> jenda is working
[08:09] <tsmithe> dunno when he'll be back
[08:09] <tsmithe> soon probably, knowing him
[08:12] <beuno> aaah, ok ok, thanks tsmithe
[08:12] <tsmithe> :)
[08:19] <jenda> tsmithe: correct :)
[08:19] <tsmithe> awh
[08:19] <tsmithe> :)
[08:19] <jenda> I just came, though, I really turned it off :)
[08:20] <tsmithe> hmm
[08:20] <tsmithe> didn't mean a /me there
[08:21] <jenda> hehe :)
[08:23] <beuno> hey jenda  ;D
[08:25] <jenda> beuno: check, I'll let you know once available :)
[08:26] <beuno> ok ok, np
[09:02] <tonyyarusso> Our gobby-for-dapper backport vanished.  See http://pkern.debian.net/
[09:03] <beuno> tonyyarusso, yes, quite a while ago
[09:03] <tonyyarusso> beuno: Did another one surface somewhere?
[09:04] <beuno> not that I know of, I do know someone googled for it and found it
[09:04] <beuno> maybe we can setup another mirror
[09:04] <tonyyarusso> That would be good
[09:05] <juliux> tonyyarusso, did you know how much traffic is there per month?
[09:06] <beuno> tonyyarusso: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gobby/gobby_0.4.1-1_i386.deb
[09:06] <tonyyarusso> juliux: Not a clue.
[09:06] <juliux> tonyyarusso, ok
[09:06] <beuno> tonyyarusso: maybe we can add that same link
[09:07] <tonyyarusso> beuno: Is that backported or for etch?
[09:07] <beuno> I'm not sure, it's just a randome google search
[09:07] <beuno> I've got around 5k of bandwidth per month
[09:07] <beuno> so I can mirror it
[09:08] <beuno> tonyyarusso: someone with dapper should try and install it
[09:09] <tonyyarusso> beuno: That can be arranged.
[09:10] <beuno> *that's 5k gb
[09:11] <juliux> beuno, nice
[09:12] <beuno> my company does hosting, so we have a couple of dedicated servers
[09:16] <tonyyarusso> beuno: "It opened the installer but got an error: Dependency is not satisfiable libatk 1.0-0"
[09:19] <beuno> not good
[09:19] <beuno> maybe somene here still has it
[09:20] <tonyyarusso> beuno: sparklehistory has Dapper to test, but not the old package.
[09:22] <beuno> ok, well, we'll have to keep digging
[09:31] <poningru> er hold on guys
[09:33] <poningru> http://darcs.0x539.de/trac/obby/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/LatestGobbyOnUbuntuBreezy
[09:34] <beuno> that's for breezy, does it work on dapper?
[09:38] <beuno> tonyyarusso: can you get that tested?
[09:39] <tonyyarusso> beuno, poningru: That looks like still 0.3?
[09:39] <tonyyarusso> Breezy had 0.2
[09:39] <tonyyarusso> we need .4
[09:40] <poningru> ah hmm
[09:40] <poningru> backporting .4 to dapper
[09:45] <bapoumba> Hello :)
[09:47] <beuno> hey bapoumba
[09:52] <jenda> oi
[09:52] <bapoumba> hello beuno and jenda :)
[09:53] <jenda> How's life in France?
[09:53] <jenda> err... a va? ;)
[09:53] <bapoumba> a va ;)
[09:54] <bapoumba> sunny Sunday ;)
[09:54] <jenda> hmm...
[09:54] <bapoumba> what's about you ?
[09:54] <jenda> it's dark out right now... but that reminds me I didn't look out the window all day ;)
[09:54] <bapoumba> ^^
[09:55] <jenda> me? not good.
[09:55] <bapoumba> it's dark here too
[09:55] <tsmithe> and here!
[09:55] <jenda> Studying for tomorrows exam.
[09:55] <jenda> Still.
[09:55] <bapoumba> ho ... Good luck ;)
[09:55] <jenda> And constantly looking for something else to do.
[09:55] <jenda> :)
[09:55] <bapoumba> I wont say the m.. word in here, but thinking about it for you ;)
[09:55] <tsmithe> m word?
[09:56] <bapoumba> tsmithe, in french
[09:56] <tsmithe> ahh
[09:56] <bapoumba> to say good luck, there is a bad word 
[09:56] <jenda> ah :)
[09:56] <jenda> of course.
[09:56] <bapoumba> ^^
[09:57] <bapoumba> You'll be okay jenda :)
[09:58] <jenda> I'll do my best ;)
[09:58] <jenda> Well, having no other choice after devoting all of this years time to anything but school :)
[09:58] <bapoumba> I used to know that ;)
[09:59] <tsmithe> and his maths revision
[09:59] <tsmithe> and write to his german exchange partner
[09:59] <tsmithe> that's easy
[10:00] <tsmithe> get a random number generator
[10:00] <jenda> bapoumba: French teacher? :)
[10:00] <bapoumba> I've got a good ol' way to grade
[10:00] <bapoumba> (biology)
[10:00] <tsmithe> depending on the number, stick an A/B/C on it
[10:00] <jenda> oooh :)
[10:00] <jenda> nice
[10:01] <bapoumba> tsmithe, go up a staircase, send all the essay to a nice fly
[10:01] <jenda> Was my fave subject before I chose... law over medicine :)
[10:01] <bapoumba> top ones get top grades, bottom ones bad grades
[10:01] <bapoumba> easy ^^
[10:01] <tsmithe> :P
[10:01] <tsmithe> fun too!
[10:01] <jenda> bapoumba: you should also check for nice hand-drawn pictures in them, if any.
[10:02] <jenda> those should be moved up two stairs, IMO ;)
[10:02] <bapoumba> jenda, too much work /o\
[10:02] <tsmithe> jenda, who'd do medicine? /me would look into genetics, or neuroscience if he decides on biology at uni... or is medicine required for both?
[10:02] <bapoumba> I'd have to think
[10:02] <tsmithe> :P
[10:03] <tsmithe> do you know how to do the other thing i was going to ask but forgot?
[10:03] <tsmithe> hmm/
[10:03] <bapoumba> well depends on how the wind is blowing
[10:03] <tsmithe> ah!
[10:03] <tsmithe> i remember now
[10:04] <jenda> tsmithe: well, it's prolly a diff system ;) We just go to med school, and specialise on genetics or neuro later.
[10:04] <tsmithe> ah k
[10:04] <tsmithe> do you know how some people got on the world challenge trip at school ( http://tibsplace.co.uk/venezuela ) ?
[10:04] <jenda> tsmithe: funny how us computer geeks like the same sub-subjects in bio ;)
[10:04] <tsmithe> :)
[10:04] <jenda> tsmithe: you're asking for something bad to happen to you ;)
[10:04] <tsmithe> no i'm not
[10:04] <tsmithe> i want you to guess the answer
[10:05] <tsmithe> and i posted the link in case bapoumba didn't know what world challenge was
[10:05] <jenda> tsmithe: _I_ am the certified spammer around here....
[10:05] <jenda> hehe
[10:05] <jenda> tsmithe: you mean you got the money needed?
[10:05] <bapoumba> tsmithe, looking at your link
[10:05] <tsmithe> no
[10:05] <jenda> aha
[10:05] <tsmithe> jenda, how they got on to the trip
[10:05] <jenda> bapoumba: caution, he'll start asking for money in a while ;)
[10:06] <tsmithe> (it was a competition)
[10:06] <jenda> ...just before I start trying to sell some Ubuntu stickers ;)
[10:06] <tsmithe> :)
[10:06] <jenda> tsmithe: no, no idea.
[10:06] <tsmithe> ah ok
[10:06] <tsmithe> well
[10:06] <bapoumba> jenda, I see Cody got caught ;)
[10:06] <tsmithe> huh?
[10:06] <tsmithe> some people, well, they included... guess what? pictures!
[10:06] <jenda> mhm
[10:07] <tsmithe> in their essay
[10:07] <tsmithe> on why they should get in
[10:07] <tsmithe> one guy did it as two monkeys talking to each other!
[10:07] <tsmithe> so pictures are useful
[10:08] <beuno> and speaking of ubuntu stickers...
[10:08] <beuno> jenda, I got a lot of users here requesting xubuntu stickers
[10:08] <tsmithe> beuno, you're gonna donate? thanks!
[10:09] <beuno> I always missread "donate" as "donut" for some reason
[10:09] <tsmithe> :D
[10:09] <beuno> just in case,
[10:09] <tsmithe> and you're not allowed to weedle out of my question
[10:09] <tsmithe> !
[10:09] <beuno> and now that I think of it, there are no donuts in Argentina...
[10:09] <beuno> ;D
[10:10] <tsmithe> which i must ask, cos jenda made me
[10:10] <jenda> beuno: hmm, there will be some, I'm sure ;)
[10:10] <beuno> what are you raising money for?
[10:10] <jenda> tsmithe: aha :)
[10:10] <tsmithe> beuno, http://tibsplace.co.uk/venezuela
[10:10] <beuno> jenda, great, add me to the list and I might buy them and distribute them here
[10:10] <tsmithe> aha indeed!
[10:11] <jenda> beuno: how many might you be interested in? I'm guessing the price at $0.20-$0.30 apiece.
[10:12] <beuno> jenda, I'll get a pol setup, but I don't think much more then 50-100
[10:13] <jenda> that's good enough
[10:13] <jenda> actually, very good ;)
[10:13] <beuno> pol == poll
[10:13] <jenda> kk
[10:14] <beuno> tsmithe, what's the pound/dollar exchange rate?
[10:14] <tsmithe> 0.57 ?
[10:14] <tsmithe> $/
[10:14] <tsmithe> no
[10:14] <tsmithe> other way round
[10:14] <tsmithe> :P
[10:14] <beuno> and why does the text say 3500, and the fund raiser 4000?
[10:15] <tsmithe> huh?
[10:15] <tsmithe> hmm
[10:15] <tsmithe> weird
[10:15] <beuno> "This is all great, but to get there and to do this, each of us has to raise the necessary 3500."
[10:15] <beuno> "Target:	4000
[10:15] <beuno> Raised:	65"
[10:15] <tsmithe> fixed?
[10:15] <beuno> so, 10 dollars would be... 5 ?
[10:15] <tsmithe> yeah about
[10:16] <beuno> and 10 dollars is 30 pesos to me, which would be like eating twice and McDonalds, and not very much money for you
[10:17] <beuno> but what the hell, at least that'll round the number up
[10:17] <jenda> it's not the valuable currency that's the problem - it's the strong economy, tsmithe ;)
[10:17] <jenda> You wouldn't be any better off in Japan, wanting a few hundred Yen.
[10:18] <tsmithe> jenda, yeah i know
[10:18] <tsmithe> :)
[10:18] <jenda> :)
[10:18] <tsmithe> but a strong economy == good
[10:18] <tsmithe> so i didn't want to badmouth that
[10:18] <jenda> indeed :)
[10:19] <jenda> I actually like small currencies - when you have a large one, all you end up with is that you have to split it up to bits :)
[10:19] <tsmithe> i prefer
[10:19] <tsmithe> that
[10:19] <beuno> done, I always get sucked in by these things
[10:19] <jenda> The Czech crows has 100 halers, but we already cancelled 1, 2 and 5 haler pieces a long time ago, and 10 and 20 h pieces a few years ago...
[10:19] <beuno> my paypal account is 90% donations
[10:19] <tsmithe> jenda, its neater
[10:20] <jenda> tsmithe: which?
[10:20] <beuno> I ended up givint $10 to the free nvidia drivers project, and I don't even own an nvidia card...
[10:20] <jenda> anyway - now we're in the unpleasant situation of still needing 50 h pieces, but nothing else than that :)
[10:21] <tsmithe> but none to me?
[10:21] <jenda> yep :)
[10:21] <tsmithe> jenda, with fractions
[10:21] <tsmithe> bah
[10:21] <tsmithe> yup
[10:21] <tsmithe> give people who you don't know money, but none to me... i see
[10:21] <beuno> lol
[10:21] <beuno> it's there
[10:21] <jenda> tsmithe: you don't qualify as a beneficial organisation :)
[10:21] <beuno> 5 pounds
[10:22] <jenda> well, sort of, I guess...
[10:22] <beuno> oh
[10:22] <tsmithe> i do!
[10:22] <jenda> hehe
[10:22] <tsmithe> thanks muchly beuno!
[10:23] <tsmithe> do you want an @tibsplace.co.uk address?
[10:23] <beuno> lol, the akward hug was enough
[10:23] <tsmithe> ok
[10:23] <beuno> unless you want to redirect it to argentina@gmail.com
[10:23] <beuno> and I can use that one to show off
[10:23] <tsmithe> i can do that
[10:24] <tsmithe> i was only offering a redirect anyway ;)
[10:24] <beuno> hehehe
[10:24] <tsmithe> somerville32, ping: do you want one?
[10:24] <tsmithe> so beuno, is that you want one?
[10:24] <beuno> yeah, why not
[10:25] <tsmithe> name?
[10:25] <beuno> martin.albisetti@tibsplace.co.uk?
[10:25] <beuno> nah
[10:25] <beuno> too long
[10:25] <tsmithe> argentina? beuno?
[10:25] <beuno> beuno
[10:25] <beuno> beuno@
[10:26] <tsmithe> ok
[10:27] <tsmithe> done
[10:27] <tsmithe> "Your settings are being processed and will be available in approximately 5 minutes."
[10:28] <somerville32> I donated $10 to tsmithe's fund
[10:28] <somerville32> lol
[10:29] <jenda> somerville32: we saw :)
[10:29] <somerville32> You did? lol
[10:29] <jenda> bapoumba> jenda, I see Cody got caught ;)
[10:30] <somerville32> lol
[10:30] <tsmithe> somerville32, do you want an @tibsplace.co.uk address?
[10:30] <beuno> ;)
[10:30] <somerville32> tsmithe, I don't really need one
[10:30] <somerville32> However, I hope to see lots of photos tsmithe
[10:30] <somerville32> And if I don't, I want a refund :P
[10:30] <tsmithe> of course you do
[10:31] <bapoumba> ^^
[10:31] <bapoumba> I got caught :D
[10:32] <tsmithe> huh?
[10:32] <somerville32> Welp, I need to take my dog for a walk
[10:32] <bapoumba> have a good walk then
[10:34] <tsmithe> beuno, do you have a site you want me to link to from http://tibsplace.co.uk/blog/index.php/sponsors ?
[10:35] <beuno> uhm...  http://www.uluga.com.ar/
[10:35] <beuno> (Argentina LoCo)
[10:35] <tsmithe> okey
[10:37] <tsmithe> done!
[10:37] <tsmithe> thanks beuno
[10:37] <beuno> np
[10:37] <tsmithe> so jenda, you gonna donate for an email address?
[10:37] <jenda> tsmithe: nope...
[10:38] <tsmithe> awh
[10:53] <beuno> somerville32, what's up with UWN 28?
[10:53] <somerville32> beuno: The same thing thats up with every UWN
[10:53] <somerville32> :)
[10:53] <beuno> it's suppose to be out tomorrow, right?
[10:54] <somerville32> Yup
[10:54] <somerville32> Would you like me to dump the Feisty Changes now
[10:54] <somerville32> +?
[10:54] <jenda> somerville32: there was no quiz this week, could you please just mention that, and leave the 'next week' and 'week after next week' sections in tact?
[10:54] <jenda> I can't really do it now.
[10:54] <beuno> I've goto get the DIY website working, but once I'm done with that, I'd be glad to help
[10:54] <somerville32> Ok
[10:54] <jenda> beuno++
[10:54] <beuno> I've bene trying to add small bits to it
[10:54] <jenda> ;)
[10:54] <somerville32> I'm going to walk my talk and then do some real life stuff
[10:55] <somerville32> tsmithe: Can you get started? Thanks.
[10:55] <beuno> somerville32, sure go ahead dump feisty changes
[10:58] <tsmithe> when it's done - i'll give feisty changes a look-see
[10:59] <bapoumba> somerville32, tsmithe : feisty changes are quite difficult to translate ^^
[10:59] <bapoumba> is this possible to make it in a list or something ?
[11:01] <beuno> ok, one sections to go
[11:01] <beuno> and then the backend
[11:01] <beuno> and then I'll probably need jenda
[11:02] <jenda> somebody needs jenda?
[11:02] <jenda> beuno: when/what for?
[11:02] <beuno> "will need"
[11:02] <beuno> after I get the last section and the backend programed
[11:03] <beuno> I'll need you to load some real content and see if it's what was expected
[11:03] <beuno> and, the "design it!" section is... blank
[11:04] <beuno> http://diy.devubuntu.com/make.php is already working from the DB
[11:04] <jenda> indeed.
[11:05] <jenda> I'll have time for that in about 22 hours.
[11:05] <jenda> Is that OK?
[11:05] <beuno> and all I have left to program is http://diy.devubuntu.com/get.php
[11:05] <beuno> well, I didn't set the deadline, so it's not my call
[11:05] <beuno> ;)
[11:05] <jenda> hehe
[11:05] <jenda> rigth.
[11:43] <beuno> ok, last section down
[11:43] <beuno> backend left
[11:44] <jenda> study down, sleep left.
[11:44] <jenda> more study tomorrow, exam later.
[11:44] <beuno> aahw, you got the best part left
[11:44] <jenda> The only good thing is that it's at 6 PM
[11:44] <jenda> hehe :)
[11:44] <jenda> for today, yes.
[11:44] <beuno> it's 7:45pm here
[11:45] <jenda> quarter to midnight here
[11:46] <bapoumba> same here ;)
[11:46] <jenda> of course :)
[11:46] <jenda> funny how europe sticks to the same timezone.
[11:46] <jenda> convenient, too.
[11:46] <beuno> yes, very much
[11:47] <bapoumba> yep
[11:47] <tsmithe> *earlier
[11:48] <tsmithe> not before! it's still the same time since the beginning of the universe...
[11:50] <somerville32> Stop chatting and work on UWN 28 :P
[11:51] <beuno> lol