| Lutin | persia: otherwise, dch will take your current username | 12:14 |
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| geser | Lutin: export DEBEMAIL DEBFULLNAME :) | 12:14 |
| === persia thought that was what .devscripts was for... | ||
| Lutin | geser: you're right, I also forget those^^ | 12:15 |
| crimsun | I should start signing my uploads as "disgruntled peon" | 12:16 |
| Lutin | persia: I meant, if the var geser tells about are not set, the new name and adress are yourlogin@yourmachine | 12:16 |
| persia | persia: I understand. I use .devscriots to set the variables, but either works. I presume that regular updaters either set the variables or check the changelogs before updating. | 12:17 |
| persia | Bleh s/persia/Lutin/ | 12:17 |
| Lutin | hehe | 12:17 |
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| Lutin | persia: is that ok , | 12:21 |
| Lutin | ? | 12:21 |
| persia | Lutin: That should work, but man dch for more discussion related to $NAME and $EMAIL. | 12:23 |
| Lutin | yep, was reading that :) | 12:23 |
| Lutin | persia: maybe just assuming the vars are set should be enough | 12:27 |
| crimsun | Laser_away: (answering scrollback) sure, let me know more details RE: motu school | 12:28 |
| persia | Lutin: That seems easiest to me. A case where an uploader would want to use -m for this type of update doesn't spring to mind. | 12:29 |
| Lutin | yep | 12:29 |
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| Lutin | persia: done. now it has to run in the sourcefolder too | 12:30 |
| ScottK | bddebian: Thanks for REVUing http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4071 - Now to find MOTU #2... | 12:33 |
| persia | Lutin: I missed the reasoning behind adding the special $mail handlers. Is there a reason these shouldn't be in IGNORE_MAINTAINER? Also, what about the case where the user runs this in their home directory, which has a debian/ subdirectory containing their packages? You might want to verify that the current directory name matches the package and version in the changelog. | 12:33 |
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| Lutin | persia: ignore_maintainer exit without doing anythin | 12:34 |
| persia | Lutin: You're right: no need. | 12:35 |
| Lutin | persia: the mail handler is to replace debian emails by their ubuntu ones for adconrad and mpitt | 12:35 |
| Lutin | persia: thus have to be changed | 12:35 |
| Lutin | if I understand correctly | 12:35 |
| persia | Hobbsee: The sparc kdelibs issue was fixed by a give-back. Thanks again. | 12:35 |
| Hobbsee | persia: yay :) | 12:36 |
| persia | Lutin: Ah. I understand now. Thanks for the explanation. | 12:36 |
| Lutin | persia: at leat it's what I understood from the pkgmangler overrides files geser pointed me to | 12:36 |
| Lutin | and the help of Adri2000 ;) | 12:36 |
| Lutin | persia: you said | 12:37 |
| Lutin | Also, what about the case where the user runs this in their home directory, which has a debian/ subdirectory containing their packages? You might want to verify that the current directory name matches the package and version in the changelog | 12:37 |
| Lutin | that assume you have actually a valid changelog, which is the thing you try to determinate | 12:38 |
| Nafallo | !info sun-java5-bin | 12:39 |
| ubotu | sun-java5-bin: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 21811 kB, installed size 65084 kB | 12:39 |
| persia | Lutin: Right. My mistake. There's no need to check, as if both debian/changelog and debian/control exist, it's likely to be a package base directory. | 12:39 |
| geser | Lutin: you don't need to escape the email addresses when you assign 'email' as they are only used as a replacement and the echo looks better | 12:41 |
| Lutin | geser: i'm a sed parano ^^. had so much problems with that that I always escape :) | 12:42 |
| Lutin | thanks for that, I'll remember it =) | 12:42 |
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| Lutin | well, time to sleep | 01:02 |
| Lutin | g'night guys, and thanks a lot persia & geser | 01:03 |
| geser | night Lutin | 01:03 |
| persia | Good night Lutin | 01:03 |
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| _Enchained | bddebian: here ? | 02:00 |
| bddebian | Maybe | 02:00 |
| _Enchained | ^ | 02:00 |
| _Enchained | can I show you my manpage for dvd95 and see if ok ? | 02:01 |
| bddebian | Sure | 02:01 |
| shawarma | Adri2000: Re merging lighttpd: Sure, knock yourself out. | 02:01 |
| _Enchained | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1490/ | 02:02 |
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| _Enchained | I'm not a crazy "manpager" yet ^^ | 02:02 |
| bddebian | Are there any command line switches, etc for it? | 02:03 |
| _Enchained | no | 02:04 |
| bddebian | Does it have a gnome help page? | 02:04 |
| _Enchained | ? | 02:04 |
| _Enchained | there is a special extension for that ? | 02:05 |
| bddebian | No, just thinking you should mention it if it had one | 02:05 |
| bddebian | It looks fine | 02:05 |
| _Enchained | How can I know if there's one ? | 02:06 |
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| _Enchained | (sorry my english is a little bad :s) | 02:07 |
| bddebian | _Enchained: Inside app, if it has like Help->Foo | 02:07 |
| _Enchained | hm ok | 02:07 |
| _Enchained | I'll look at | 02:07 |
| somerville32 | bddebian, Can you review me package? | 02:07 |
| bddebian | somerville32: Which one? | 02:08 |
| _Enchained | bddebian has the reiewing fever tonight :p | 02:08 |
| somerville32 | You already did it, lol | 02:08 |
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| bddebian | somerville32: I wondered, that's why I was asking :) | 02:09 |
| somerville32 | "Looks OK to me.." ... pfft! siretart said it was beautiful :P | 02:09 |
| bddebian | Well I'm not as cool as siretart :) | 02:09 |
| somerville32 | crimsun: Can you review (and hopefully then upload) for me? | 02:10 |
| _Enchained | in a file "README" there is only the text : "TODO ;-)" I can remove it from debian/docs ?... | 02:10 |
| somerville32 | Anyone want me to review their package? :) | 02:10 |
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| cypherbios | Hobbsee: around? | 02:27 |
| Hobbsee | cypherbios: contentless ping | 02:27 |
| somerville32 | Grr... | 02:27 |
| Hobbsee | somerville32: hrm? | 02:28 |
| somerville32 | The whole contentless ping thing is annoying. If I have information I can just leave the info, I'll send them a pm | 02:29 |
| somerville32 | If I ping someone, it is because I want to know if they are there or when they'll get there | 02:29 |
| somerville32 | A lot of the time it isn't worth my effort to leave a message for them to get back to me because I can just ask/talk to someone else. | 02:29 |
| Hobbsee | somerville32: heh, fair enough | 02:29 |
| Hobbsee | cypherbios: what's up? | 02:29 |
| cypherbios | hobbsee: can you advocate this upload, if +1 from you http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4015 | 02:29 |
| Hobbsee | somerville32: i'm contentless ping warning, because i'm here at the moment, and may not be for very long | 02:29 |
| crimsun | somerville32: and that's precisely what's so damned annoying to those of us who HATE being pinged with NO CONTENT. | 02:30 |
| crimsun | if you're going to ping me, give me details, don't ping with no comment, else you're wasting my time | 02:30 |
| cypherbios | hobbsee if doesn't, please leave some comments there :) | 02:30 |
| === Hobbsee hates people who start querying her, just to pick her up! | ||
| Hobbsee | gah!!! | 02:30 |
| Toadstool | somerville32: catfish uploaded | 02:30 |
| somerville32 | Toadstool: thanks :) | 02:31 |
| === Hobbsee needs to konversation-ify the contentless ping script | ||
| Hobbsee | ARGH!!!!!1 | 02:32 |
| Toadstool | this thing is script-able? :p | 02:32 |
| Hobbsee | Toadstool: dunno, maybe :P | 02:32 |
| Toadstool | heh | 02:32 |
| somerville32 | Ok | 02:44 |
| somerville32 | I'm going to do one merge then sleep :) | 02:44 |
| somerville32 | What do the different colours on MoM mean? | 02:46 |
| bddebian | Just to confuse you :-) | 02:46 |
| somerville32 | Oh, ok | 02:47 |
| bddebian | I've never figured it out either :-) | 02:48 |
| somerville32 | lol | 02:48 |
| somerville32 | Red looks dangerous | 02:48 |
| === somerville32 aboids. | ||
| somerville32 | :D | 02:48 |
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| somerville32 | So there are only ~60 merges left for Universe? | 02:49 |
| bddebian | Only? | 02:53 |
| somerville32 | Ubuntu Merge-o-Matic: universe | 02:54 |
| somerville32 | 51 outstanding merges | 02:54 |
| somerville32 | 71 updated merges | 02:54 |
| somerville32 | Does 71 mean done? | 02:54 |
| somerville32 | crimsun: Can I merge beep-media-player? | 02:55 |
| Hobbsee | somerville32: i thinkj persia already has | 02:55 |
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| crimsun | I'll handle it. | 02:58 |
| crimsun | people who haven't followed my previous merges probably aren't aware that the stock artwork for b-m-p is different for Ubuntu, which is why there are "unrepresentable changes" | 02:59 |
| somerville32 | hehe | 02:59 |
| somerville32 | Can I do blam? | 02:59 |
| crimsun | ask him | 03:00 |
| crimsun | (he'll probably allow it) | 03:00 |
| Toadstool | somerville32: you can do initrd-tools :) | 03:00 |
| crimsun | and grub2! | 03:00 |
| somerville32 | Lol | 03:01 |
| somerville32 | ok | 03:01 |
| === somerville32 is going to do initrd-tools. | ||
| bluefoxicy | 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01) | 03:04 |
| bluefoxicy | bluefox@icebox:~$ sudo modprobe atheros | 03:04 |
| bluefoxicy | FATAL: Module atheros not found. | 03:04 |
| bluefoxicy | Linux icebox 2.6.20-4-lowlatency #2 SMP PREEMPT Fri Jan 5 04:34:15 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux | 03:04 |
| bluefoxicy | ^^^ This thing worked on umm... I think it was like... hoary... | 03:04 |
| somerville32 | How does grab-merge.sh work? | 03:05 |
| Hobbsee | bluefoxicy: are you supposed to modprobe atheros or madwifi? | 03:05 |
| Hobbsee | somerville32: in an empty dir, run grab-merge.sh <packagename> | 03:05 |
| bddebian | pfft, grab-merge | 03:06 |
| somerville32 | grab-merge.sh initrd <-- does nothing | 03:06 |
| somerville32 | oh wait | 03:06 |
| somerville32 | haha | 03:06 |
| somerville32 | there we go | 03:06 |
| crimsun | bddebian: yeah, deities do it by hand, eh? | 03:07 |
| crimsun | once again proving I'm a peon :) | 03:07 |
| bddebian | No, just people to stupid/lazy to use scripts | 03:07 |
| === somerville32 wonders if he is stupid or lazy. | ||
| === somerville32 figures he is both. | ||
| === bddebian wonders why crimsun always has to mock him :'-( | ||
| crimsun | I ain't mockin nobody | 03:11 |
| bluefoxicy | hobbsee: Hmm, I don't know. It's not auto-probing though. | 03:13 |
| bluefoxicy | not madwifi.. | 03:14 |
| bluefoxicy | aha | 03:15 |
| bluefoxicy | it's missing from -4 only (of generic AND lowlat) | 03:15 |
| bluefoxicy | but -5 oopses/bugs/crashes | 03:15 |
| bluefoxicy | in the Via DRI driver in the kernel or something, I guess.. I don't know, it causes X to die. | 03:15 |
| bluefoxicy | so I am just going to wait for -6 | 03:15 |
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| somerville32 | So... | 03:27 |
| somerville32 | If I understand this correctly | 03:27 |
| somerville32 | I've used this script which has downloaded the packages | 03:28 |
| somerville32 | and merged them | 03:28 |
| somerville32 | and then I have to resolve any conflicts | 03:28 |
| somerville32 | and create a debdiff | 03:28 |
| somerville32 | and attach to my bug report | 03:28 |
| crimsun | well, almost. | 03:28 |
| crimsun | you've used a script that downloads the already-merged source package | 03:29 |
| crimsun | the already-merged source package may contain conflicts; if there are, REPORT lists them (as does grab-merge) | 03:29 |
| crimsun | but yes, you would edit debian/changelog regardless, generate a debdiff, attach said debdiff to a bug report, and subscribe u-u-s | 03:30 |
| somerville32 | and the working copy that is extracted is the ubuntu version? | 03:31 |
| crimsun | more context? | 03:31 |
| crimsun | and you may find http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/scripts/requestsponsor useful. | 03:31 |
| === somerville32 nods. | ||
| somerville32 | I have that installed | 03:31 |
| somerville32 | The script, it unpackaged it | 03:32 |
| somerville32 | I assume it is the ubuntu version unpackaged? | 03:32 |
| somerville32 | s/unpackaged/extracted | 03:32 |
| crimsun | it's the merged one | 03:32 |
| crimsun | so in a sense, yes, "the ubuntu version" | 03:33 |
| somerville32 | The debian version replaces a dependency in initrd-tools with another one | 03:34 |
| somerville32 | lsb-base (>= 1.3-9ubuntu3) for libdevmapper1.02 (>= 2:1.02.02-2) | 03:35 |
| somerville32 | (or they never had lsb-base and just added libdevmapper) | 03:35 |
| somerville32 | We don't seem to have a libdevmapper package | 03:36 |
| somerville32 | From the changelog: | 03:37 |
| somerville32 | * Use libdevmapper1.02 and add versioned depend on it. closes: 395181 | 03:37 |
| somerville32 | initrd-tools is needed in etch for the upgrade path from sarge. | 03:37 |
| somerville32 | debian bug #395181 | 03:37 |
| Ubugtu | Debian bug 395181 in kernel-image-2.6.8-3-686 "missing dependency on libdevmapper1.01" [Serious,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/395181 | 03:37 |
| somerville32 | !find libdevmapper | 03:37 |
| ubotu | Found: libdevmapper-dev, libdevmapper1.02 | 03:37 |
| crimsun | then you need to merge in that change | 03:37 |
| somerville32 | So just add libdevmapper1.02 as a dependency, ok | 03:39 |
| somerville32 | Should I leave the changelog as by MoM? | 03:41 |
| crimsun | no | 03:42 |
| crimsun | you worked on it and thus to blame ;) | 03:42 |
| somerville32 | lol, k | 03:42 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: what I think would be cool is just a general session where you go over requesting merges/syncs, how to be a good sponsor/sponsoree, etc. | 03:47 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: if you have a particular day/time that is good for you let me know | 03:47 |
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| bddebian | LaserJock: He's a machine and thus needs no sleep :) | 03:53 |
| LaserJock | I doubt that, even though it's very plausible | 03:53 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: Should I ask for Felt to be removed or do you think someone will want to try to fix it? | 03:53 |
| LaserJock | hmm, let me do a quick check | 03:54 |
| crimsun | who needs sleep when there are BUG EMAILS | 03:55 |
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| somerville32 | hehe | 03:56 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: I'm sure at some point I would be totally useless for bug fixing | 03:57 |
| LaserJock | I'm pretty useless as it is with full sleep | 03:57 |
| === bddebian is useless too :-( | ||
| somerville32 | So what should I change to the control file (besides merge stuff)? | 03:59 |
| LaserJock | somerville32: make minimal changes | 03:59 |
| somerville32 | Sokk | 04:01 |
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| LaserJock | bddebian: please file a removal bug, thanks | 04:01 |
| somerville32 | Do I just ignore these since this is a merge?: | 04:07 |
| somerville32 | <somerville32> tonyyarusso, hmm? | 04:07 |
| somerville32 | <tonyyarusso> somerville32: It's this "also" thing still | 04:07 |
| somerville32 | <tonyyarusso> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots and https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots/+bug/77045, and try to do it for something. | 04:07 |
| somerville32 | <somerville32> !somerville32 is <reply> somerville32 is the coolest kid on the block! | 04:07 |
| somerville32 | <ubotu> I'll remember that, somerville32 | 04:07 |
| somerville32 | <somerville32> !somerville32 is also ...or not! | 04:07 |
| somerville32 | <ubotu> somerville32 is already known | 04:07 |
| somerville32 | <somerville32> !somerville32 is <also> ...or not! | 04:07 |
| somerville32 | <ubotu> somerville32 is already known | 04:07 |
| somerville32 | <tonyyarusso> See what I mean? | 04:07 |
| somerville32 | <somerville32> !somerville32 is also xubuntu | 04:07 |
| somerville32 | <ubotu> somerville32 is already known | 04:07 |
| somerville32 | <somerville32> !somerville32 is <also> xubuntu | 04:07 |
| somerville32 | <ubotu> somerville32 is already known | 04:07 |
| somerville32 | <somerville32> heh | 04:07 |
| crimsun | um | 04:07 |
| somerville32 | * somerville32 nods. | 04:07 |
| somerville32 | <somerville32> !forget somerville32 | 04:07 |
| somerville32 | <ubotu> I'll remember that, somerville32 | 04:07 |
| somerville32 | <somerville32> !foo | 04:07 |
| somerville32 | <ubotu> foo is barr | 04:07 |
| somerville32 | <somerville32> !bar | 04:07 |
| somerville32 | gah | 04:07 |
| somerville32 | Sorry :( | 04:07 |
| LaserJock | turn him off! ;-) | 04:07 |
| somerville32 | Do I just ignore these since this is a merge?: | 04:07 |
| somerville32 | W: initrd-tools source: package-uses-deprecated-debhelper-compat-version 3 | 04:08 |
| somerville32 | W: initrd-tools source: out-of-date-standards-version 3.6.1 (current is 3.7.2) | 04:08 |
| somerville32 | W: initrd-tools source: changelog-should-mention-nmu | 04:08 |
| somerville32 | W: initrd-tools source: source-nmu-has-incorrect-version-number 0.1.84.2ubuntu1 | 04:08 |
| crimsun | yes | 04:08 |
| crimsun | you can safely ignore changelog-should-mention-nmu and source-nmu-has-incorrect-version-number fooubuntu anyhow | 04:08 |
| bddebian | foobuntu? :-) | 04:09 |
| LaserJock | that's crimsun's derivative | 04:09 |
| crimsun | ok, barrybuntu | 04:09 |
| crimsun | or jordanbuntu | 04:09 |
| LaserJock | yucky | 04:09 |
| LaserJock | laserbuntu | 04:09 |
| crimsun | not my fault you're a deity | 04:09 |
| LaserJock | yes it IS! | 04:09 |
| LaserJock | I never claimed it :-) | 04:10 |
| === Hobbsee blames ajmitch | ||
| somerville32 | :] | 04:10 |
| somerville32 | Ok | 04:10 |
| LaserJock | Hobbsee: could you check the u-u-s mailing list and see if I'm subscribed? | 04:11 |
| somerville32 | so I've rebuilt the source package | 04:11 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: try commenting on a bug? | 04:11 |
| LaserJock | Hobbsee: well, I don't remember getting a confirmation email | 04:12 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: ahh | 04:12 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: if you do, and it comes back that you're not on the list, then we'll get a message | 04:12 |
| zul | Hobbsee: you took the easy way out of blaming | 04:12 |
| Hobbsee | there's probably some way i cna manually check though | 04:12 |
| Hobbsee | zul: hrm? | 04:12 |
| zul | 22:07 * Hobbsee blames ajmitch | 04:12 |
| somerville32 | initrd-tools_0.1.84.1.dsc initrd-tools_0.1.84.2.dsc | 04:12 |
| somerville32 | initrd-tools_0.1.84.1ubuntu1.dsc initrd-tools_0.1.84.2ubuntu1.dsc | 04:12 |
| somerville32 | Which dsc's do I debdiff against? | 04:12 |
| crimsun | current Debian to merged Ubuntu | 04:13 |
| Hobbsee | zul: :) | 04:13 |
| somerville32 | Current debian being initrd-tools_0.1.84.2.dsc | 04:13 |
| crimsun | yes | 04:14 |
| zul | i wouldnt touch initrd-tools | 04:14 |
| somerville32 | debdiff initrd-tools_0.1.84.2.dsc initrd-tools_0.1.84.2ubuntu1.dsc ? | 04:15 |
| somerville32 | zul: Why? | 04:15 |
| crimsun | cos zul's sane. | 04:15 |
| LaserJock | :-) | 04:15 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: I'm not sure we can say that | 04:15 |
| crimsun | (or insane. It depends whether you snarf xen patches in your sleep like he does.) | 04:15 |
| zul | somerville32: because there are alot of ubuntu specific changes that you might not be aware of | 04:15 |
| zul | crimsun: you missed the "in" bit | 04:15 |
| somerville32 | zul: Is not aware of very many! :) | 04:15 |
| === somerville32 is not aware of very many. | ||
| === somerville32 deletes. | ||
| somerville32 | Hmm.. | 04:16 |
| somerville32 | I already filed the bug though :P | 04:16 |
| zul | somerville32: and if you mis a bit there would be alot of pissed off users | 04:17 |
| somerville32 | zul: I probably purged them all, lol | 04:17 |
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| somerville32 | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3618 <-- appears to be an upload of the debian package or something. | 04:31 |
| somerville32 | nvm | 04:31 |
| somerville32 | They modified the original source tarball | 04:31 |
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| somerville32 | zul: Canadian? | 04:33 |
| zul | yep | 04:33 |
| somerville32 | Moncton? | 04:33 |
| zul | er...no ottawa | 04:33 |
| somerville32 | lol | 04:33 |
| === somerville32 tried to guess from your IP address. | ||
| somerville32 | or sorry, hostname | 04:34 |
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| LaserJock | bah, Hobbsee took off :/ | 04:48 |
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| Simon80 | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4065 :D | 05:14 |
| Simon80 | once again | 05:15 |
| LaserJock | sweet, marble made it in | 05:17 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: Your science bugs list, is it static? | 05:20 |
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| LaserJock | bddebian: updated daily | 05:24 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: you watch colts vs ravens? | 05:29 |
| bddebian | No but my frickin' Eagles just lost :'-( | 05:30 |
| LaserJock | no way! | 05:30 |
| bddebian | 24 27 New Orleans | 05:30 |
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| LaserJock | bddebian: I just read about the colts winning without either team scoring a touchdown | 05:30 |
| LaserJock | 5 field goals! | 05:31 |
| bddebian | Yeah I saw the scores on NFL.com and was like WTF? :) | 05:31 |
| LaserJock | well bummer, I kinda wanted the Eagles to win that one | 05:31 |
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| Toadstool | guys, forget about your teams, Chargers are going to win the Superbowl :) | 05:38 |
| LaserJock | puke | 05:38 |
| Toadstool | heh | 05:39 |
| bddebian | Damn I'm getting my ass kicked :-( | 05:44 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: in real life? or just by packages? ;-) | 05:47 |
| bddebian | NeverWinterNights 2 :-) | 05:47 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: how much did that cost? | 05:51 |
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| bddebian | Dunno got it for Christmas but I think like 39.99 | 05:51 |
| LaserJock | I played a little wesnoth on my mac the other day | 05:52 |
| bddebian | Hah, no comparison ;-P | 05:52 |
| jsgotangco | lol | 05:52 |
| Toadstool | xmoto? :P | 05:52 |
| bddebian | heh | 05:52 |
| jsgotangco | i bought some old gamecube games for the wii | 05:53 |
| jsgotangco | mostly the hits | 05:53 |
| LaserJock | I guess I'm too cheap for gaming | 05:55 |
| LaserJock | I've never owned a video game console | 05:55 |
| LaserJock | and I don't by games over $20 | 05:55 |
| bddebian | I don't play a lot but I love RPG games | 05:55 |
| LaserJock | *buy | 05:55 |
| bddebian | consoles r t3h suXX0r ;-P | 05:55 |
| LaserJock | every Christmas I do get a week of gaming at my parents house | 05:56 |
| Burgundavia_ | hey jsgotangco | 05:56 |
| LaserJock | my brother introduced me to halo last christmas | 05:56 |
| jsgotangco | Burgundavia_: hey dude | 05:56 |
| jsgotangco | bddebian: :P | 05:56 |
| jsgotangco | Halo was pretty good | 05:56 |
| LaserJock | this christmas was a Star Wars game that was pretty cool | 05:57 |
| jsgotangco | but I bought the back catalog for the scary resident evil games | 05:57 |
| LaserJock | I just don't have patience for RPG | 05:57 |
| LaserJock | or many games | 05:57 |
| LaserJock | I just want to blow things up | 05:57 |
| LaserJock | I was really addicted to UT2004 and America's Army for a while | 05:58 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: Which one? Jedi Knights: Jedi Academy is cool. And the Knights of the Old Republic ones are awesome | 05:58 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: hmm, I can't remember exactly, but it was number II of whatever it was | 05:59 |
| bddebian | Gah, could have been KoToR or BattleFronts | 06:09 |
| LaserJock | oh my goodness | 06:09 |
| bddebian | Have you played Medal of Honor? | 06:09 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: ah, BattleFronts shoulds familar | 06:09 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: yeah, I have it | 06:09 |
| LaserJock | don't really play it much | 06:09 |
| bddebian | That's a cool one | 06:09 |
| LaserJock | got stuck after a few months | 06:09 |
| LaserJock | and haven't had any time (Ubuntu keeps me more than busy) | 06:10 |
| bddebian | Sorry, not Medal of Honor, I mean Call of Duty | 06:10 |
| LaserJock | I just got an email that I'm supposed to teach 2 labs of General Chemistry this semester :/ | 06:10 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 06:10 |
| jsgotangco | show 'em tiger! | 06:11 |
| bddebian | w00t | 06:11 |
| LaserJock | I haven't taught that in like 4 years | 06:11 |
| jsgotangco | chemisty doesn't change no? | 06:11 |
| LaserJock | I haven't taught *anything* for at least 2 years | 06:11 |
| LaserJock | well no, but I'm supposed to be doing research | 06:11 |
| LaserJock | not grading | 06:11 |
| jsgotangco | hehehe | 06:12 |
| LaserJock | I'll have to talk to my boss Tuesday | 06:12 |
| LaserJock | I think this must be a mistake | 06:12 |
| LaserJock | oh well, I guess | 06:12 |
| LaserJock | I don't mind teaching, I just find it odd | 06:13 |
| LaserJock | hmm, maybe I'd get a raise too ;-) | 06:13 |
| bddebian | heh | 06:15 |
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| tonyyarusso | Hey, I need bazaar help. I'm trying to download the ubotu/Ubugtu code, and don't know how. See https://code.launchpad.net/~dennis/+branch/ubuntu-bots/main. | 06:31 |
| joejaxx | tonyyarusso: bzr co urlhere? | 06:33 |
| lifeless | bzr branch https://code.launchpad.net/~dennis/+branch/ubuntu-bots/main | 06:33 |
| joejaxx | tonyyarusso: try that | 06:33 |
| tonyyarusso | k | 06:33 |
| joejaxx | tonyyarusso: bzr co urlhere | 06:33 |
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| tonyyarusso | Thanks joejaxx, lifeless :) | 06:35 |
| joejaxx | tonyyarusso: you are most welcome :) | 06:35 |
| bddebian | Gnight gang | 06:43 |
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| Jerub | okay! I've made progress with ipsets, which I discussed here briefly the other day | 07:17 |
| Jerub | I have a kernel that supports iptables. | 07:18 |
| Jerub | er ipsets. | 07:18 |
| Jerub | but iptables in ubuntu does not support ipset rules. | 07:18 |
| ScottK | If there is a MOTU in the house who is available and willing, I'd appreciate a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4070. It's looking for a second sponsor. | 07:19 |
| imbrandon | 07:27 | |
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| manchicken | Anybody here done any work on adept before? | 07:42 |
| manchicken | persia: I figured out what the build issue was. | 07:42 |
| persia | manchicken: congratulations. What was it? | 07:42 |
| manchicken | I had unsermake installed. Riddell took a look at my build logs and was like "yeah, uninstall unsermake." | 07:43 |
| persia | manchicken: Ah. Autotools is one of those mysteries best left unreplaced, in my opinion :) | 07:44 |
| manchicken | heh | 07:44 |
| manchicken | I don't know why/how it got installed. | 07:44 |
| manchicken | Either way, it builds. | 07:44 |
| manchicken | Now I'm just trying to follow this code. | 07:44 |
| manchicken | It's not working well. | 07:45 |
| manchicken | I'm probably going to have to step through it to figure it out. | 07:45 |
| Jerub | okay, this is giving me the shits :/ | 07:47 |
| Jerub | basically the 'ipset' module is in universe, but is completely useless | 07:48 |
| Jerub | because neither the kernel or the iptables packages support ipsets | 07:48 |
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| Simon80 | is it valid to request syncing a package from debian unstable? | 08:00 |
| Simon80 | (openarena) | 08:00 |
| Simon80 | anybody? | 08:03 |
| persia | Simon80: Feisty has passed the DebianImportFreeze at this point, so new packages are not imported lightly. If you want this, I would recommend checking with MOTU-Games first. | 08:04 |
| Simon80 | is that a channel? and when was this deadline? | 08:05 |
| Simon80 | thanks for a response, btw | 08:06 |
| ScottK | Dec 21 was the deadline: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule | 08:06 |
| persia | Simon80: The deadline was 21st December (openarena missed it by a week). Motu-Games is a team. | 08:06 |
| Simon80 | err... I phrased that badly, I should have said, do they have a channel, cause now I look stupid | 08:07 |
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| Simon80 | so when you say check with motu-games first, what do you mean, send a message to their leader? | 08:09 |
| persia | Simon80: The team is small. I don't think they have a channel. It's a weekend, but you might email them (email is available from LP profiles for registered users). | 08:11 |
| Simon80 | and ask if it's possible to sync it? | 08:12 |
| Simon80 | yay for these deadlines | 08:12 |
| Simon80 | I mean, I'm extra cynical around now, cause edgy is bug-ridden | 08:12 |
| persia | Simon80: The deadlines are intended to help reduce that. Edgy was done very quickly, and there was not as much time to fix bugs. | 08:13 |
| Simon80 | yeah, I know | 08:13 |
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| Simon80 | what I don't get is why they don't get fixed post-release | 08:14 |
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| ScottK | Good night all. | 08:15 |
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| Simon80 | it makes me want to vent | 08:16 |
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| slytherin | I have a question. If I am using automake1.9 while maintaining my program, is it advised to include it as build-dependency in control file? | 08:23 |
| persia | slytherin: Does your package fail to build with automake1.7? If you're version-agnostic, it is safe to omit. If you need a specific version, it is better to include. | 08:26 |
| slytherin | persia: We developers were having problem since we were using different versions of automake. So one of the developer final change Makefile* and configure* using automake1.9. And probably it will fail to build with 1.7 | 08:27 |
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| persia | slytherin: If you need a specific version, it's good to add to build-depends. Ubuntu defaults to 1.10 today, and is expected to advance the default as new versions are introduced. | 08:32 |
| slytherin | persia: Ok. I will do so. Thanks. | 08:32 |
| slytherin | persia: One more question. How much time does it generally takes to get a package accepted as non maintainer upload when added to REVU? | 08:33 |
| persia | slytherin: It depends on the quality of the packaging, the availability of MOTU reviewers, and the responsiveness of the packager. Some packages are approved in a few days, and some take weeks. | 08:34 |
| slytherin | persia: If I am a developer who is working on debian packaging for my own app which is supposed to have a new version 1 week before UVF, What do you suggest? Upload to REVU or file a bug for new version? | 08:35 |
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| Lutin | hay there | 08:41 |
| persia | slytherin: There are too many variables for an easy answer to that question. If you are available to support comments/suggestions, an upload to REVU may take less MOTU time. | 08:41 |
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| slytherin | persia: Ok. I will upload to REVU, One last question. Can you please tell me what is cause of this, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1533/ | 08:45 |
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| persia | slytherin: Do you use seahorse-agent? If so, you need to call debuild with --preserve-envvar DISPLAY. If not, I don't know. | 08:46 |
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| Lutin | slytherin: this might happen because debuild is unable to run the agent. You try to prevent this (if your agent is configured to remember password) by running echo | gpg --sign first | 08:50 |
| slytherin | Lutin: persia: Let me try both things one by one. | 08:51 |
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| zakame | persia: thanks, please go ahead merging :-) | 09:48 |
| persia | zakame: Thanks. It's become more interesting with the python2.5 transition :) | 09:49 |
| zakame | persia: no prob. I'm still restricted to help out for the moment due to my location's limited bandwidth :/ | 09:51 |
| persia | zakame: Perfectly understood. May it improve soon. | 09:51 |
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| zakame | thanks | 09:53 |
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| persia | I've uploaded patches as bugs 79212 and 79214 so that telepathy-gnome can be installed again, if anyone is interested. | 01:03 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 79212 in pymsn "Unsatisfiable depends on python-ctypes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79212 | 01:03 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 79214 in telepathy-butterfly "Unsatisfiable depends on python-ctypes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79214 | 01:03 |
| crimsun | this sleep is way overrated | 01:10 |
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| geser | crimsun: are you going to upload the last two debdiffs or should I? | 01:17 |
| crimsun | I'm working on them | 01:17 |
| crimsun | (pymsn already uploaded) | 01:17 |
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| imbrandon | sudo nano /etc/crontab | 01:19 |
| imbrandon | err | 01:19 |
| persia | crimsun: Thanks. I'm close to not having any notes on the transition :) | 01:19 |
| crimsun | imbrandon: I'm wondering if a simple no-change rebuild of your beryl 0.1.2 sources will resolve the "white screen o' death" issue that has appeared post-Herd-2 | 01:24 |
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| persia | crimsun: How should the versioned dependency on python-central read? I've a third (quodlibet), and I'd like to not cause you the extra work yet again. | 01:34 |
| crimsun | (>= 0.5.6) | 01:38 |
| persia | crimsun: Thanks. | 01:38 |
| crimsun | I actually had quodlibet done, but go ahead and do it | 01:38 |
| persia | crimsun: If you've done it, I should again? | 01:39 |
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| crimsun | persia: I haven't uploaded | 01:41 |
| crimsun | so, go ahead, and I'll sponsor :) | 01:41 |
| imbrandon | crimsun, pissibly | 01:41 |
| persia | crimsun: I can't upload, but generating a bug. Thanks. | 01:41 |
| imbrandon | err | 01:41 |
| crimsun | persia: (wrt to tightening, I'm following http://wiki.debian.org/DebianPython/NewPolicy ) | 01:41 |
| === persia should keep that open: it keeps getting referenced. | ||
| imbrandon | crimsun, i'd actualy like to update it to 0.1.4 but i've been on my 4 day strech ( i'm off for 3 days after 12pm ) | 01:43 |
| imbrandon | heh | 01:43 |
| geser | imbrandon: how should beryl bugs be answered for packages from beryl-project? e.g. bug #79216 | 01:44 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 79216 in beryl-manager "beryl manager's crash" [Low,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79216 | 01:44 |
| imbrandon | geser, politely tell them to use the upsteam bug tracker ( or if you are feeling nice you can report it upstream and link the bugs ) | 01:44 |
| geser | and reject it? | 01:45 |
| imbrandon | depends on the action you take, the former yes, the later no | 01:45 |
| crimsun | imbrandon: np | 01:46 |
| imbrandon | hrm | 01:46 |
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| persia | How important is matching the New Python Policy? Is it worth causing errors on install? Alternately, is it worth switching from python-support (used by Debian) to python-central? | 01:56 |
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| crimsun | persia: the policy doesn't mandate the use of one over the other | 02:07 |
| crimsun | that said, one should be used | 02:07 |
| persia | crimsun: I've been playing with boa-constructor. The Debian maintainer chose python-support, and deleted the postinst and prerm scripts, causing #399276. python-central supports excluding directories with -x, and would allow the restoration of the postinst and prerm. This wouldn't quite be a merge, and I'm not sure about making the alternate choice from the Debian maintainer, given the interest in absorbing Debian improveme | 02:09 |
| crimsun | bug 399276 | 02:10 |
| crimsun | debian 399276 | 02:10 |
| Ubugtu | Debian bug 399276 in boa-constructor "SyntaxError installing after python transition" [Important,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/399276 | 02:10 |
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| luks | hi, can somebody please take a look at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/78549 | 02:13 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 78549 in Ubuntu "Please sync libdiscid (0.1.0-1) from Debian unstable main" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 02:14 |
| luks | auto-syncing from debian managed to break a package, and it seems I need a motu to review the new debian package | 02:14 |
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| luks | the package actually was made on feisty, so it works just fine | 02:14 |
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| _Enchained | Hi | 02:14 |
| persia | luks: Subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors@tauware.de to automatically email those MOTUs that have volunteered to review non-MOTU assistance about the SYNC request. One of them will likely ACK it when they have time. | 02:16 |
| crimsun | persia: sorry about quodlibet; tollef already did that one | 02:18 |
| persia | crimsun: No worries. It was his comments on -devel that led to my understanding of how to restore the installation of the packages removed by the transition. I'm not worried about karma (I think I have enough), just trying to help. | 02:19 |
| crimsun | off to work | 02:20 |
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| Adri2000 | !seen neutrinomass | 02:34 |
| ubotu | neutrinomass is on IRC right now! | 02:34 |
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| _Enchained | anyone to a little review ?... | 02:56 |
| _Enchained | s/to/for | 02:56 |
| imbrandon | dont work too hard crimsun , l8tr | 02:58 |
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| nixternal | crimsun: woohoo! so I shall have "better" sound soon then :) | 03:01 |
| nixternal | heya imbrandon | 03:01 |
| imbrandon | heya nixternal | 03:03 |
| zakame | hi all | 03:04 |
| nixternal | hiya zakame | 03:04 |
| nixternal | imbrandon: how's the job going? | 03:04 |
| _Enchained | I have a lintian error how can I fix it : W: alltray: non-dev-pkg-with-shlib-symlink usr/lib/liballtray.so.0.0.0 usr/lib/liballtray.so W: alltray: package-name-doesnt-match-sonames liballtray0 | 03:05 |
| imbrandon | nixternal, good good | 03:05 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 03:05 |
| nixternal | good to hear, my job ended and it is back to school for me this week...yay! | 03:05 |
| imbrandon | ahh | 03:06 |
| nixternal | bah is more like it :) | 03:06 |
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| imbrandon | heh | 03:20 |
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| white | hmm is there a way to get subscribed to new packages which are added to universe (or even better new packages for universe which are not in debian) | 05:03 |
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| stgraber | white: there is the feisty-changes mailinglist, but you'll receive a message every update of a package in feisty, not only universe ones and not only new ones | 05:14 |
| white | bah, that means tons of mails :( | 05:14 |
| stgraber | depends of the day, but for your case it means 90% of useless mails yes | 05:15 |
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| white | hmm i thought there might be a special way as the information are parsed somehow to the packages.ubuntu.com side | 05:21 |
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| imbrandon | p.u.c is outdated alot, you could probably do a custom search on LP or use mdt to make a script for you | 06:05 |
| lakin | Where can I find changelogs for certain packages? | 06:07 |
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| imbrandon | changelogs.ubuntu.com | 06:07 |
| lakin | thx | 06:07 |
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| white | imbrandon: hmm yeah, i will try to nudge frank as he should have such a script for p.u.c, thanks :) | 06:09 |
| imbrandon | white, actualy like i said you would be better using mdt , not the scripts from p.u.c | 06:10 |
| imbrandon | as thats what it was designed for | 06:10 |
| white | mdt? | 06:11 |
| imbrandon | multi distro tool | 06:12 |
| imbrandon | check revu for the source/package | 06:12 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 06:12 |
| white | right, i'll look into it | 06:12 |
| white | ta | 06:12 |
| imbrandon | http://voyager.imbrandon.com/mdt/feisty/all.html | 06:13 |
| imbrandon | output like this ^^ | 06:13 |
| imbrandon | although you probably only want the output from http://voyager.imbrandon.com/mdt/feisty/all.html#notinA or http://voyager.imbrandon.com/mdt/feisty/all.html#notinB | 06:13 |
| white | ah yeah that is the stuff i looked into (on the utnubu page) and wrote some mails | 06:13 |
| imbrandon | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiDistroTools | 06:14 |
| imbrandon | there ya go | 06:14 |
| white | ta | 06:14 |
| ScottK | If there is a MOTU here that is available and willing, I'd appreciate a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4070. It's looking for a second sponsor. | 06:16 |
| palski | why carpatunnel is in merges list? Only difference between debian and ubuntu packages in changelog | 06:16 |
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| palski | patches.ubuntu.com diffs ubuntu version against debian stable version? | 06:17 |
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| imbrandon | patches isnt a diff from anywhere, its the patches that are included in the /debian folder of uploads | 06:19 |
| palski | "These patches are generated daily and contain the differences between an Ubuntu source package and the equivalent version of the same source in Debian."? | 06:22 |
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| palski | it seems that carpaltunnel version number is 0.0.9ubuntu2 and it is synced from debian unstable 0.0.9-0.1 so patches.ubuntu.com still contains differences against debian 0.0.9 because of versio number weirdned | 06:32 |
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| tsmithe | if i'm the author of a package, why is it unwise to include the debian/ dir in the .orig? | 06:40 |
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| jonake112 | hoi mense | 07:46 |
| jonake112 | kan iemand mij misschien helpe | 07:46 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 08:27 |
| Lutin | heya bddebian | 08:27 |
| ScottK | Heay | 08:27 |
| ScottK | heya | 08:28 |
| bddebian | Hi Lutin, ScottK | 08:28 |
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| bddebian | heh | 08:29 |
| ScottK | Thanks again. | 08:29 |
| bddebian | Actually and my reviews are probably only worth about 1/4 of an MOTU so.. ;-P | 08:30 |
| tsmithe | if i'm the author of a package, why is it unwise to include the debian/ dir in the .orig? | 08:32 |
| siretart | tsmithe: why should you do that? keep the packaging in the .diff.gz and upstream work in the orig.tar.gz. that makes reviewing easier | 08:33 |
| bddebian | tsmithe: Debian thinks it's bad form :) | 08:33 |
| tsmithe | ah ok | 08:33 |
| tsmithe | i was just being lazy | 08:33 |
| siretart | it makes a package headaches when he tries to review the .diff.gz | 08:33 |
| tsmithe | ah ok | 08:34 |
| siretart | a packager | 08:34 |
| tsmithe | :) | 08:35 |
| tsmithe | siretart, bddebian; either of you free for revuage? | 08:35 |
| ajmitch | morning | 08:36 |
| siretart | later | 08:36 |
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| bddebian | Heya ajmitch | 08:37 |
| ScottK | Where is here? | 08:37 |
| ajmitch | where in the world would it be monday morning? :) | 08:37 |
| bddebian | tsmithe: Possibly in a bit | 08:37 |
| tsmithe | bddebian, thanks | 08:37 |
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| ScottK | siretart: If you would add these to your list for later, I'd appreciate a look when you have the time - http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4070 and http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4071 | 08:39 |
| ScottK | ajmitch: Australia or NZ, I would guess, but there are other possibitlies too. | 08:39 |
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| ajmitch | new zealand | 08:41 |
| tsmithe | bddebian, oh yeah - guess you want upids, 4067 and 3892 please | 08:41 |
| ScottK | It could have been Fiji - http://www.worldtimezone.com/time/wtzresult.php?CiID=12953&forma=24h | 08:47 |
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| bddebian | Yes, because God knows we don't have enough broken shit in the archive yet :) | 08:49 |
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| ScottK | bddebian: I think this is the last new one for a while and it won't be broken. Promise. | 08:51 |
| AstralJava | bddebian: It | 08:52 |
| AstralJava | sorry | 08:52 |
| AstralJava | It's gonna get some more soon. :) | 08:52 |
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| bddebian | tsmithe: Give me package names please | 09:24 |
| tsmithe | alsa-tools | 09:26 |
| tsmithe | alsa-firmware | 09:26 |
| tsmithe | thanks | 09:26 |
| bddebian | tsmithe: No way man, if it says "alsa", I ph3ar crimsun :) | 09:37 |
| tsmithe | meh | 09:39 |
| tsmithe | crimsun, ? | 09:39 |
| tsmithe | bddebian, you could give it a go anyway? | 09:39 |
| ScottK | tsmithe: Take it easy on bddebian, he's probably exhausted from all the old package archiving he's been doing (It was a lot). | 09:41 |
| bddebian | tsmithe: I'll take a look, I'm just messing with ya | 09:42 |
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| tsmithe | ScottK, ;) | 09:42 |
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| Lutin | bddebian: I uploaded a new version of kayali. could you have a look at it when you'll have some time ? | 10:00 |
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| Adri2000 | persia: here? | 10:47 |
| Adri2000 | persia: file a bug report in Debian for flpsed's .desktop file please | 10:49 |
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| Lutin | ajmitch: are you there ? | 11:20 |
| ajmitch | nope | 11:22 |
| ajmitch | if you have a question, ask it | 11:24 |
| Adri2000 | Keybuk is the author of MoM, right? | 11:41 |
| Nafallo | yes | 11:42 |
| Nafallo | he made his mom | 11:42 |
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| Adri2000 | :D | 11:44 |
| Lutin | thanks bddebian :) | 12:01 |
| bddebian | np | 12:01 |
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